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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-marketing
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[03:51] <jobies> Hello everyone
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-ru
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[08:41] <gcfhvjbkn> test
[08:41] <ubuntuhelp> gcfhvjbkn, Ну понг, и что?
[08:42] <gcfhvjbkn> есть такой юз-кейс, интересно кто-нибудь сталкивался?
[08:42] <gcfhvjbkn> нужно взять условно десять виртуальных серверов
[08:42] <gcfhvjbkn> накатить на них нечто
[08:42] <gcfhvjbkn> и гонять восемь часов
[08:42] <gcfhvjbkn> потом отписаться
[08:43] <gcfhvjbkn> какой сервис лучше взять чтобы меня забилилли ровно за восемь часов?
[08:43] <gcfhvjbkn> подешевле желательно
[08:43] <gcfhvjbkn> самый дешевый ДО (кажется), но он по часам не биллит
[08:44] <gcfhvjbkn> многие сервисы пишут цены в часах, ракспейс например, но я чет не уверен что они все позволят включать-выключать дроплеты так часто
[09:34] <Alex_5252> gcfhvjbkn тот же амазон, digitalocean
[09:39] <gcfhvjbkn> Alex_5252: разве ДО поддерживает биллинг по часам?
[09:40] <Alex_5252> https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/ - есть кнопка "MONTHLY - HOURLY"
[09:40] <Alex_5252> $ 0.015 / hr - Most Popular Plan
[09:40] <Alex_5252> $ 10 / mo - Most Popular Plan
[10:10] <pl7ofit> привет всем, подскажите как иксам вправить мозги если я установил один видеодрайвер, а иксы просят другой аналогичный
[10:11] <pl7ofit> может я что то не так делаю
[10:12] <pl7ofit> подскажите а
[10:17] <UNIm951> pl7ofit: В смысле?
[10:17] <UNIm951> нужно больше информации
[10:18] <pl7ofit> архитектура armhf
[10:18] <pl7ofit> скомпилировал драйвер mali
[10:18] <pl7ofit> просит драйвер lima
[10:19] <pl7ofit> http://pastebin.com/iizMAnZs вот лог
[10:21] <pl7ofit> UNIm951, что то еще нужно?
[10:21] <UNIm951> Тут я не помогу.
[10:22] <UNIm951> не работал с арм платами
[10:23] <pl7ofit> я помню у меня было когда то, что ставишь nvidia драйвер, а иксы все равно хотят nouveau ,
[10:43] <Svetlana> а ты не ставь nvidia, просто пользуйся nouveau
[10:45] <JohnDoe_71Rus> nouveau для armhf?
[10:45] <JohnDoe_71Rus> зачем
[10:48] <JohnDoe_71Rus> pl7ofit: http://archlinuxarm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5979 вроде как солвед
[10:50] <JohnDoe_71Rus> pl7ofit: вобщем в гугл с частью 184 строки
[10:50] <pl7ofit> Svetlana, это всего лишь пример
[10:50] <pl7ofit> Svetlana, ситуация очень похожа, будто иксы косячат
[10:51] <pl7ofit> JohnDoe_71Rus, солвед но решения там нет
[10:51] <JohnDoe_71Rus> вроде то ли FB из другой репы то ли в конфиге написать
[10:57] <pl7ofit> есть зацепка, тут у чувака откуда то берется sunxi-mali_dri.so хотя у меня его в памине небыло,
[10:57] <pl7ofit> помине *
[11:27] <tagezi> утра всем
[12:03] <SergeyIT> и тебе
[13:21] <vormux> Привет
[13:21] <vormux> был тут пару лет назад
[13:21] <vormux> было веселей
[13:22] <vormux> а теперь тут как бы междусобойчик? про убунту можно че-нить спросить?
[13:25] <SergeyIT> ни в коем случае... опасно
[13:26] <vormux> ну ладно.
[13:27] <vormux> веселитесь, пока
[13:42] <tagezi> SergeyIT: )
[13:42] <tagezi> побоялся получить ответ ))
[13:46] <SergeyIT> не- задать вопрос )
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2015-06-11-#launchpad-dev
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[21:27] <blr> wgrant: is there something magical about fill-slot="extra_info"?
[21:29] <blr> the template has source/target/prereq branch and description, however they're not enumerated in the template - they're set as initial_values in the view, I just don't understand how they're rendered
[21:45] <blr> hmm nvm, I think I see
[22:32] <wgrant> blr: Did you work it out?
[22:35] <blr> wgrant: half way! Have the resub form rendering the new field, and have updated the model/interface, just need to repopulate the text widget
[22:44] <wgrant> blr: It probably just uses the generic-edit template which renders all nominated fields in order, and sets the values from the view's initial_values property.
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-it
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[01:24] <Faro> Buona sera
[01:24] <Faro> ho un probblema con il mio asus che si surriscalda con ubuntu cosa posso fare??
[03:43] <americanoitalian> c'è qualcuno online che potrebbe aiutarmi
[03:45] <americanoitalian> lascio un messaggio nel caso qualcuno mi risponda, praticamente io con windows 7, usavo connectify che mi permetteva di condividere la mia connesione wifi in casa cioè funzionava come un repeter e mi collegavo con il cellulare,ora però non so come attivare questa funzione ed essendo nuovo di questo modo linux non so come si fa
[03:56] <americanoitalian> bha
[06:58] <nuovo> salve a tutti ho formattato una pen drive fat32 ora voglio inserire file .mp3 se lo faccio con ubuntu sara riconosciuta dal mio stereo dell automobile?
[06:59] <nuovo> inoltre posseggo la copia la distru xubunru 14.04 posso passare alla 15 senza perdere dati e/o programmi
[07:02] <nuovo> nessuno mi risponde??
[07:02] <nuovo> sono nel posto sbagliato??
[07:06] <nuovo> ma andate affanculo stronzi
[09:06] <Man_of_Wax> ahaha
[09:06] <Man_of_Wax> idolo
[09:06] <Man_of_Wax> -
[09:06] <Man_of_Wax> 08:58 < nuovo> salve a tutti ho formattato una pen drive fat32 ora voglio inserire file .mp3 se lo faccio con ubuntu sara riconosciuta dal mio stereo dell automobile?
[09:06] <Man_of_Wax> 08:59 < nuovo> inoltre posseggo la copia la distru xubunru 14.04 posso passare alla 15 senza perdere dati e/o programmi
[09:06] <Man_of_Wax> 09:02 < nuovo> nessuno mi risponde??
[09:06] <Man_of_Wax> 09:02 < nuovo> sono nel posto sbagliato??
[09:06] <Man_of_Wax> 09:06 < nuovo> ma andate affanculo stronzi
[09:06] <Man_of_Wax> ops
[09:06] <Man_of_Wax> scusate :|
[09:06] <alfredd> ciao, ho bisogno di aiuto per cancellare le vecchie versioni di ubuntu dalla memoria. grazie.
[09:07] <alfredd> questo il messaggio che mi appare all'ultimo aggiornamento:
[09:07] <alfredd> Spazio libero su disco insufficiente.
[09:07] <alfredd> L'avanzamento necessita di 61,0 M di spazio libero sul disco «/boot»: liberare almeno altri 43,6 M di spazio sul disco «/boot». Svuotare il cestino e rimuovere i pacchetti temporanei di precedenti installazioni con il comando «sudo apt-get clean».
[09:12] <alfredd> ??
[09:14] <bip> alfredd: il messaggio ti fornisce anche un aiuto per cancellare pacchetti temporanei
[09:14] <bip> L'hai utilizzato?
[09:14] <alfredd> no.
[09:14] <alfredd> devo inviare quel comando da rerminale?
[09:15] <Man_of_Wax> si
[09:15] <bip> alfredd: penso che sia un inizio
[09:16] <alfredd> ok. l'ho fatto.
[09:17] <alfredd> però, per piacere aiutatemi a cancellare le vecchie versioni di ubuntu.
[09:18] <Man_of_Wax> le vecchie versioni sono i kernel vecchi?
[09:18] <Man_of_Wax> te li elimina in automatico quando finisci l'aggiornamento di versione
[09:19] <alfredd> forse si i vecchi kernel. ma non li elimina automaticamente!!!
[09:19] <alfredd> vostri colleghi qui, mi hanno spiegato che il mio Ubunbtu è stato installato su una parte molto piccola del mio HD e purtroppo dopo qualche aggiornamento le vecchie versioni vanno cancellate maunalmente!!
[09:21] <alfredd> l'altra volta ne abbiamo visualizzati una decina!!!!
[09:21] <Nobun> confermo che i vecchi kernel non vengono cancellati ma vanno disinstallati manualmente
[09:22] <alfredd> ma se mi dice che non c'è più spazio. almeno andiamo a vedere cosa possiamo cancellare!!!
[09:22] <Nobun> ricordo che è stato anche riferito (mi pare da Krabador) che comunque bisogna mantenere non solo il kernel attualmente attivo, ma anche la versione precedente non più attiva
[09:24] <Nobun> alfred fai anche un sudo apt-get autoremove
[09:24] <Nobun> magari ti toglie un po' di roba non più in uso
[09:30] <alfredd> ok fatto. liberato 222MB.
[09:30] <alfredd> ma ora mi appare quest altro messaggio:
[09:30] <alfredd> Sul volume “boot” rimagono solo 10,9 MB di spazio su disco.
[09:30] <alfredd> E' possibile liberare sapzio su disco rimuovendo programmi o file non utilizzati, oppure spostando file su un altro disco di partizione.
[09:30] <bip> alfredd: come hai partizionato?
[09:30] <alfredd> non lo so.
[09:31] <alfredd> ho un vecchio laptop. con un HD di soli 60GB
[09:31] <bip> alfredd: su paste dai un df -h
[09:31] <alfredd> cosa è df -h??
[09:32] <alfredd> comunque è evidente che è partizionato malissimo. perchè il boot è troppo piccolo!!!! mi sembra chiaro!!!
[09:32] <alfredd> (mi dai il link di pastebin per piacere?)
[09:34] <alfredd> ....
[09:36] <alfredd> ??
[09:38] <alfredd> ...
[09:39] <alfredd> bip: ??? ci sei?
[09:41] <bip> alfredd: dimmi
[09:41] <alfredd> ho già scritto!!
[09:42] <bip> alfredd: per il paste: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[09:42] <alfredd> link di past e cosa significa e cosa è df-h
[09:42] <bip> alfredd: per il comando df invece da terminale: man df
[09:42] <alfredd> non è chiara l'ultima istruzione
[09:42] <alfredd> apro terminale e poi?
[09:42] <bip> alfredd: scrivi man df
[09:43] <Nobun> magari può farti comodo scrivere, anziché df -h scrivere:
[09:44] <Nobun> df -h | tee $HOME/tmp.log
[09:44] <alfredd> è venuta fuori una specie di manuale/legneda!! vuoi che te la posto??
[09:44] <bip> alfredd: no, basta che la leggi
[09:44] <Nobun> in tal modo le info le hai già nel file tmp.log in home e puoi copiarlo su ubuntu past più facilmente
[09:44] <Nobun> no alfredd
[09:44] <Nobun> il man è per far capire a te che fa il df
[09:45] <alfredd> ma scusa che centra!!
[09:45] <Nobun> a lui serve l'input del comando df -h
[09:45] <alfredd> aiutami a vedere la memoria
[09:45] <Nobun> deve sapere come è partizionato il disco per capire come è gestito lo spazio
[09:45] <Nobun> per poterti aiutare
[09:45] <alfredd> aiutami a vedere le vecchie versioni kernetl
[09:45] <Nobun> ecco perché ti chiede di usare il comando df -h e fare copia incolla su un sito che permetta di pubblicare un testo in modo condiviso
[09:47] <alfredd> ragazzi, c'è qualcuno che ha ascoltato la mia richiesta??
[09:47] <alfredd> ho bisogno di liberare questo boot!
[09:47] <Nobun> alfredd: tu hai chiesto due cose
[09:47] <Nobun> 1) liberarti spazio
[09:47] <N3mo> Buongiorno, Ho un pc con Kubuntu 15.04 che fa strani artefatti grafici... anche provando un altra versione (tipo lubunt) avrei gli stessi problemi in quanto la base è sempre simile?
[09:47] <Nobun> 2) capire come risolvere la partizione di boot
[09:47] <N3mo> Scusate, il pc monta Xubuntu 15.04
[09:48] <alfredd> ok. se possibile risolviamo pure la partizione.
[09:48] <Nobun> bip, per aiutarti a risolvere il tuo problema n. 2 ti ha chiesto di scrivere su un servizio paste (ovvero un sito dove puoi pubblicare un file di testo) i risultati del comando df -h
[09:48] <alfredd> ma non mi far leggere manuali in inglese!! altrimenti facciamo notte!!!
[09:49] <alfredd> ma la mia richiesta era solo la prima. liberare spazio!!
[09:50] <alfredd> che faccio riprovo domani??
[09:50] <alfredd> trovo qualcunatro?
[09:51] <bip> alfredd: io credo che devi avere un po' di calma e pazienza
[09:52] <alfredd> hai ragione. ma siamo qui da mezzora?
[09:53] <N3mo> !supporto
[09:53] <bip> alfredd: io come altri stiamo facendo altro e (come altri) ti sto dando il mio aiuto. Tuttavia se non ti applichi un poco anche tu è finita. Segui il filo del discorso, armati di calma e pazienza e arriviamo alla soluzione del problema.
[09:53] <alfredd> ok.
[09:54] <Nobun> io sto nel frattempo cercando come si ottiene la lista dei kernel installati... che non me lo ricordo
[09:54] <alfredd> va bene. grazie!
[09:54] <bip> alfredd: dunque. Per sapere cosa fa un comando che _qualcuno ti dice di fare_ nel terminale dai "man <nomecomando>". Se qualcuno qui dentro, per scherzo ti da un comando che ti fa cancellare tutto, tu prima di darlo devi sapere. Il copia e incolla non serve. Serve logica, cervello.
[09:55] <bip> alfredd: hai chiesto dello spazio. Per sapere dello spazio dai il comando df -h che ti permette di avere un quadro della situazione del tup file system.
[09:55] <ExPBoy> bip, non penso che nel canale di supporto si facciano certe cose
[09:55] <bip> Con il mouse, copia - e incolla sul sito del Pastebin. Ti rilascia un link, copialo in chat.
[09:55] <alfredd> ho capito, hai ragione. ti ringrazio per questa osservazione!
[09:55] <bip> alfredd: di nulla :)
[09:56] <Nobun> per la lista dei kernel, alfredd:
[09:58] <Nobun> apt list --installed | grep linux-image
[09:58] <alfredd> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11695330/
[09:59] <Nobun> in questo modo hai la lista dei kernel che sono attualmente installati (ogni kernel è composto da due file... un linux-image-generic ed un linux-image-extra
[09:59] <Nobun> puoi anche vedere solo i file generic e poi regolarti di conseguenza con gli extra
[09:59] <Nobun> scusa ho sbagliato
[10:00] <alfredd> allora dal file sistem si deduce che il boot è di 236M ed è usato all'80%
[10:00] <alfredd> giusto?
[10:00] <Nobun> da una parte i linux-image-VERSIONE e dall'altra linux-image-extra-VERSIONE
[10:00] <Nobun> comunque con quel comando li vedi tutti
[10:01] <Nobun> ricordati di NON cancellare il kernel attualmente in uso ed la versione precedente del kernel attualmente in uso
[10:14] <alfredd> Nobun: ho digitato il comando. mi da tutti le image, ma indica anche qusto: WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface yet. Use with caution in scripts.
[10:14] <alfredd> posso inviartelo su pastebin così gli dai unocchiata?
[10:16] <alfredd> inoltre come faccio a cancellare?
[10:17] <Nobun> prima di cancellare
[10:17] <Nobun> ti conviene accertarti di quale kernel è in uso e di quale è il kernel precedente
[10:17] <Nobun> fammi un paste e vedo se riesco a capire quali kernel devi mantenere
[10:18] <Nobun> nel dubbio te ne farei cancellari molti meno, tanto per maggiore tranquillità
[10:18] <alfredd> ok. come faccio a vedere qualè il kernel in uso?? (immagino sia l'ultimo inordine crescente!!)
[10:18] <alfredd> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11695411/
[10:25] <alfredd> bip: hai visto il mio file system??
[10:26] <alfredd> Nobun: hai visto il ""Warning"??
[10:28] <rednaples> Salve, ho un problema con Ubuntu 15.04. Ho cercato di installare KDE 5 seguendo questa guida: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-KDE-Plasma-5-3-on-Ubuntu-15-04-479600.shtml ma, oltre a non essersi installato correttamente (durante l'installazione non è riuscito ad installare un pacchetto e quindi KDE non parte!) ora non posso più install
[10:28] <rednaples> are alcun programma nè da terminale nè da Software Center.
[10:30] <rednaples> Cercando di installare, ad esempio, "Avidemux", compare questo: http://pastebin.com/7SxSNbKz. Anche dando sudo apt-get -f install dà sempre un errore.
[10:30] <rednaples> Secondo voi come potrei risolvere? Grazie
[10:36] <N3mo> Buongiorno, Ho un pc con Xubuntu 15.04 che fa strani artefatti grafici... anche provando un altra versione (tipo lubunt) avrei gli stessi problemi in quanto la base è sempre simile?
[10:52] <Babbudoiu> Salve
[10:53] <Babbudoiu> posso fare una domanda?
[10:54] <ExPBoy> !chiedi | Babbudoiu
[10:55] <ExPBoy> manca il bot
[10:55] <ExPBoy> Babbudoiu, chiedi pure se qualcuno può e sa risponde
[11:08] <Carlin0> N3mo, che sarebbero sti strani artefatti grafici ?
[11:11] <N3mo> Carlin0: Per esempio all' avvio sul desktop si vedono tutte righe e quadrati, ma se faccio tast dx proprietà e cambio lo sfondo e poi rimetto quello che c'er< prima va tutto apposto. Oppure nei programmi quando apro una tendina al posto dello sfondo (in genere grigio) si vedono quadrati neri
[11:12] <glpiana> ola
[11:13] <Carlin0> non saprei N3mo mi è nuova la cosa
[11:13] <N3mo> considera< che già svalvolava drante l' installazione
[11:13] <N3mo> per partizionare sono andato a culo perchè non vedevo quasi niente
[11:14] <ExPBoy> N3mo, scheda grafica ....
[11:14] <Nobun> N3mo: non è che la tua scheda video sta andando in vacanza alle maldive?
[11:15] <N3mo> Non credo, credo piuttosto ad un problema di driver. NO? considenrandoc he su XP va tutto alla perfezione
[11:15] <Nobun> ma è strano forte che tu non riesca a vedere manco in sede di partizione
[11:15] <Nobun> che scheda grafica è e come hai impostato Ubuntu?
[11:16] <N3mo> No vabbè si vedeva ma aveva questi strani artefatti... poi se muovevi la finestra di la e di qua bene o male si sistemava
[11:16] <N3mo> Ho già controllato i diriver aggiuntivi
[11:16] <Nobun> ma non ho capito bene questi artefatti?
[11:16] <Nobun> come comparivano, dove e quando?
[11:17] <glpiana> N3mo: hai provato ad avviare con l'opzione nomodeset per vedere se cambia il comportamento?
[11:17] <Nobun> sullo sfondo, sulle finestre, dappertutto.... se puoi anche ripetermi che tipo di cose vedevi che non dovevi vedere etc
[11:17] <N3mo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11695628/
[11:19] <N3mo> Allora, fondamentalmente quando avvio il pc al posto dello sfondo del Desktop vedo tutte righe. Ma l'interfaccia grafica è perfetta ( menu , barra applicazioni ecc.) per risolvere devo cambiare lo sfondo e torna apposto. In più nei vari programmi a volte le tendine degli sturmenti (tipo la tendina per savalre) si vedono con in sottofondo dei blocchi enri
[11:19] <Nobun> ok è un problema di risoluzione video probabilmente
[11:20] <Nobun> prova a cambiare la risoluzione video e le impostazioni dello schermo
[11:20] <N3mo> Ah, si risolve anche andando in risoluzione e scegliendono un altra e poi rimettere quall di prima
[11:20] <N3mo> però gli artefatti nei menù continua a darli
[11:20] <Nobun> sì perché la risoluzione che hai attualmente evidentemente non è ben supportata
[11:20] <Nobun> ti consiglio di usare un altra risoluzione
[11:21] <N3mo> Capito
[11:21] <Nobun> che risoluzione hai impostato attualmente e quali altre risoluzioni vedi disponibili?
[11:21] <N3mo> Ma non dovrei usare quella nativa del monitor?
[11:21] <Nobun> non necessariamente
[11:22] <Nobun> può non essere ben supportata dal driver usato da Ubuntu
[11:22] <Nobun> tendenzialmente Ubuntu rileva automaticamente la risoluzione migliore e non occorre modificare nulla
[11:23] <N3mo> Capito, allora provo a scendere con la risoluzione. Ora non posso verificare le impostgazioni perchè stanno usando il pc... a meno che non possa farlo da ssh?
[11:23] <Nobun> però può succedere che la risolzione debba essere modificata con qualcosa di più standard
[11:23] <Nobun> purtroppo io non so usare ssh quindi non saprei aiutarti
[11:23] <N3mo> Capito
[11:23] <Nobun> sono abbastanza nabbo... posso aiutare solo per questi problemi di base
[11:23] <glpiana> N3mo: puoi farlo da terminale, ma comunque dal pc, non da ssh
[11:24] <Nobun> tendenzialmente
[11:24] <Nobun> fai delle prove con le varie risoluzioni
[11:24] <N3mo> ok, proverò
[11:24] <N3mo> Grazie del supporto
[11:24] <Nobun> e guarda le risoluzioni e le impostazioni che Ubuntu ti elenc
[11:25] <Nobun> non è necessariamente una questione di grandezza della risoluzione, quanto di proporzioni di altezza e lunghezza
[11:25] <glpiana> N3mo: strano comunque che ci siano sti problemi con la scheda intel
[11:25] <Nobun> quindi ci sta che la risoluzione migliore sia una "via di mezzo"
[11:25] <glpiana> N3mo: che interfaccia grafica utilizzi?
[11:25] <N3mo> XFCE
[11:26] <Nobun> è strano anche perché è HP... tendenzialmente l'HP ha un hardware più amichevole per linux
[11:26] <ExPBoy> uhm
[11:26] <glpiana> Nobun: che sia hp o altro è indifferente. sempre intel è la scheda
[11:26] <Nobun> sì
[11:26] <Nobun> è vero
[11:27] <glpiana> N3mo: avevi sti problemi anche con l'installazione?
[11:27] <Nobun> però parlando a destra e a sinistra ho visto che tendenzialmente la hp fa modelli che più spesso usano componenti che con linux vanno
[11:27] <N3mo> glpiana: Si, già dall' installazione (fatta con live) sfacioava
[11:28] <N3mo> *sfaciolava
[11:28] <glpiana> N3mo: prova l'opzione nomodeset come ti ho detto sopra e vedi se cambia la situazione. sai come attivarla?
[11:29] <N3mo> glpiana: Scusa ma non ho capito a quale messaggio precendente ti riferisic...
[11:29] <glpiana> glpiana
[11:29] <glpiana> N3mo: hai provato ad avviare con l'opzione nomodeset per vedere se cambia il comportamento?
[11:29] <glpiana> ma non importa
[11:29] <glpiana> N3mo: sai come attivarla al boot?
[11:30] <N3mo> Negative
[11:30] <glpiana> N3mo: all'avvio vedi il menu di grub?
[11:30] <N3mo> esatto
[11:30] <glpiana> N3mo: premi il tasto "e" per editare la voce di ubuntu che avvia il tuo sistema
[11:31] <N3mo> Ok
[11:31] <glpiana> N3mo: cerca la riga che termina o che contiene le parole "quiet splash"
[11:31] <glpiana> N3mo: ti piazzi dopo quelle due parole e ci aggiungi nomodeset
[11:31] <N3mo> Ok, ho preso appunti. appena ho possibilità provo. Grazie !
[11:31] <glpiana> N3mo: dopodichè con ctrl+x o con F10 avvii il sistema con quella modifica
[11:32] <glpiana> N3mo: se la cosa migliora la situazione la si può poi rendere definitiva. se la situazione peggiora, riavvia il sistema (ctrl+alt+canc) e tutto torna come prima
[11:33] <N3mo> Ok, perfetto
[11:33] <N3mo> Ti farò sapere
[11:34] <N3mo> Grazie
[11:56] <ExPBoy> bbbilly, qui le conversazioni private non sono ammesse se hai qualcosa da chiedere chiedi in canale grazie
[11:57] <bbbilly> scusate il disturbo; ho scaricato su una chiavetta avviabile la versione di ubuntu ma quando dò l'avvio da usb mi apre una schermata di FreeDOS
[11:57] <bbbilly> La chiavetta lìho resa avviabile con "rufus"
[11:58] <glpiana> bbbilly: ti linko la guida per fare la chiavetta sotto windows
[11:59] <glpiana> bbbilly: Scarica Universal USB Installer (http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/) | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO | Attenzione: il programma è in inglese
[12:00] <bbbilly> grazie
[12:16] <bbbilly> grazie mille, è partito. mi consigliate di usare LVM con l'installazione?
[12:19] <glpiana> no
[12:19] <glpiana> assolutamente no
[12:22] <bbbilly> che bello, son contento, ho recuperato un computer. Grazie mille!
[12:38] <bipbip> salve ho scaricato ubuntu 15.04 e ho un problema, cioè quando vdo in impostazioni di sistema e clicco su mouse e touchpad c'è solo l''opzione per configurare il tasto primario mentre io vorrei anche configurare la velocità degli spostamenti del puntatore
[12:39] <bipbip> sapete come fare? Vorrei avere una cosa tipo questa: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/mouse-testing-in-quanal.jpg
[12:39] <bipbip> Grazie
[12:40] <glpiana> bipbip: che versione hai prezo? lubuntu?
[12:41] <bipbip> ubuntu 15.04
[12:41] <bipbip> con unity
[12:43] <glpiana> dammi un attimo
[12:43] <bipbip> ok
[12:50] <glpiana> bipbip: dovresti vedere due cursori
[12:51] <glpiana> uno alla voce General e l'altro alla voce Mouse
[12:53] <bipbip> invece non ho nessuna voce
[12:53] <bipbip> vado in Mouse e Touchpad
[12:53] <glpiana> bipbip: il pc è un portatile?
[12:53] <bipbip> no è un fisso
[12:55] <glpiana> strano allora. la schermata che vedo io non ha tutte le voci dell'immagine che hai indicato (era così nelle versioni precedente) ma perlomeno ha le barre per il doppio click e per la velocità del mouse
[12:55] <glpiana> bipbip: prova ad aggiornare il sistema
[12:55] <bipbip> io quelle barre non le ho, purtroppo
[12:56] <bipbip> ed è così da quando ho cercato di installare KDE
[12:57] <glpiana> ah
[12:57] <glpiana> bipbip: anzitutto dimmi che intendi per "provato"
[12:57] <glpiana> scusa, "cercato"
[12:58] <bipbip> ho installato il pacchetto "kubuntu-desktop" e poi l'ho rimosso perchè KDE non mi piaceva molto
[12:59] <bipbip> e da allora quando il PC si spegne e si accende appare il logo di Kubuntu
[12:59] <glpiana> bipbip: eliminare solo quel pacchetto non basta. apri un terminale
[12:59] <glpiana> bipbip: scrivi: ps aux | grep lightdm
[12:59] <glpiana> dimmi cosa ottieni
[13:00] <bipbip> http://pastebin.com/vPxXJzAc
[13:03] <glpiana> bipbip: scrivi: dpkg -l | grep kdelibs-bin
[13:03] <bipbip> http://pastebin.com/VmTVueyn
[13:04] <glpiana> bipbip: scrivi: dpkg -l | grep kdelib5-data
[13:05] <bipbip> non mi dà nulla
[13:06] <glpiana> bipbip: ok, scrivi: sudo apt-get purge kdelibs-bin
[13:08] <bipbip> Ok sta eliminando 118 MB di pacchetti
[13:08] <glpiana> bene
[13:09] <bipbip> però... ha rimosso anche KolourPaint e Calligra che mi servivano! Potrò reinstallarli in un secondo momento?
[13:10] <glpiana> bipbip: dopo reinstalli quel che ti serve. adesso vediamo di segare via il più possibile kde
[13:10] <bipbip> ok
[13:11] <glpiana> dimmi qando termina
[13:11] <glpiana> *quando
[13:11] <bipbip> ha fatto
[13:12] <glpiana> bipbip: dpkg -l | grep kdelib
[13:13] <bipbip> http://pastebin.com/TAY2c15U
[13:13] <glpiana> bipbip: oki, la prossima volta copia i comandi con attenzione. scrivi: sudo apt-get purge kdelibs5-data
[13:15] <bipbip> fatto
[13:16] <glpiana> riavvia e torna qui
[13:17] <bipbip> ok
[13:19] <bipbips> ok eccomi
[13:19] <bipbips> ho ravviato ma non si è risolto il problema, e all'avvio c'è sempre il logo di kubuntu
[13:20] <glpiana> per lo meno abbiamo fatto pulizia
[13:20] <bipbips> una cosa che ho notato è che prima di avviarsi Unity, se provo a muovere il mouse nella schermata di login, il cursore si muove molto velocemente mentre una volta avviato Unity i movimenti diventano più lenti
[13:20] <glpiana> bipbips: scrivi: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[13:21] <bipbips> fatto
[13:22] <glpiana> bipbips: altro al momento non so dirti e devo uscire
[13:24] <bipbips> ok
[13:25] <bipbips> grazie lo stesso
[13:25] <bipbips> e buon proseguimento
[13:42] <bipbip15> Salve, non riesco ad installare KolourPaint su Ubuntu 15.04 per un problema di dipendenze. Qualcuno potrebbe aiutarmi?
[13:48] <Carlin0> bipbip15, è un programma che hai preso dai repo ?
[13:48] <bipbip15> No
[13:49] <bipbip15> non ho aggiunto nessun repository per scaricarlo
[13:49] <bipbip15> era semplicemente nell'Ubuntu Software Center
[13:49] <Carlin0> !chat | bipbip15
[13:49] <Carlin0> passa in chat /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[14:20] <Carlin0> !log
[14:25] <N3mo> Carlin0: http://oi62.tinypic.com/24vr5dt.jpg http://oi62.tinypic.com/j0wfv9.jpg ecco gli screen del mio problema. COn il comando nomodeset all' avvio non presenta alcuna anomalia ma la risoluzion eè bloccata a 1280 e non si vede molto bene...
[14:26] <Carlin0> N3mo, non saprei...
[14:27] <krabador> N3mo, xubuntu dell'ufficio?
[14:28] <N3mo> krabador: Xubuntu della scrivania in mansarda dove volevo cercare di far andare un pc perchè mi serve per il modellismo
[14:31] <krabador> N3mo, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[14:31] <krabador> N3mo, xrandr | pastebinit
[14:31] <Carlin0> N3mo, stamattina ti chiesi perchè pensavo al solito bug dei nouveau , ma stavolta non è lui , con quello resta tutto 'impallato'
[14:33] <N3mo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11696548/
[14:36] <N3mo> krabador: TI ricapitolo il problema: il pc all' avvio presenta gli artefatti grafici che hai visto negli screen, per risolvere basta cambiare lo sfondo. RImangono però dei piccoli problemi tipo nelle tendine dei programmi sotto le scritte tipo taglia incolla ecc appaiono quadratini neri. Stessi problemi li ho avuti anche durante l' installazione da LiveUSB Xubuntu 15.04
[14:36] <krabador> lshw -C video ?
[14:38] <N3mo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11696570/
[14:38] <Carlin0> N3mo, è un portatile ...
[14:38] <N3mo> Nope
[14:39] <krabador> xubuntu quale?
[14:40] <N3mo> http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=D530-RCD-R
[14:40] <N3mo> 15.04
[14:43] <N3mo> 32bit
[15:03] <N3mo> krabador: ?
[15:03] <krabador> il driver dentro 15.04 , per questa scheda , è l'unico che puoi usare, l'attuale installer intel ha un'ultima versione pubblicata ieri che supporta 14.10
[15:05] <N3mo> Ok, quindi devosemplicemnte aspetare?
[15:05] <N3mo> *Aspettare?
[15:33] <Luigi48> ciao sto installando ubuntu sul PC packard Bell celeron 2,2 GHZ RAM 2 Gb. che funziona con
[15:33] <Luigi48> windows 7 home premium. Ho fatto il download ed il CD, ho lanciato Wubi che ha installato ubuntu. Quando ho riavviato il PC ed ho scelto ubuntu dopo una qualche secondo è comparso il messaggio "nessun file system di root, correggere dal menu di partitionamento". Come dovrei procedere?s.
[15:34] <krabador> Luigi48, wubi è sconsigliato
[15:34] <krabador> Luigi48, disinstalla ubuntu da windows 7 come se fosse una normale applicazione , inserisci il cd, fallo partire in boot
[15:34] <Luigi48> Cosa dovrei fare , disinstallare ubuntu
[15:34] <krabador> esegui un'installazione reale
[15:35] <Luigi48> cioè con install
[15:35] <krabador> che , tra le opzioni avrà "installa ubuntu a fianco di windows"
[15:35] <Luigi48> Non ci saranno problemi di partitionamento
[15:36] <Luigi48> Nè modifica del file system di root
[15:37] <Luigi48> OK provo
[16:00] <akis24> sera
[16:07] <Aprilia`> salve
[16:08] <Aprilia`> er mitico krabador
[16:08] <Aprilia`> ce sempre? :P
[16:08] <krabador> ao' chessuccesso
[16:08] <Aprilia`> krabador!
[16:09] <Aprilia`> uso lubunto
[16:09] <Aprilia`> lubuntu*
[16:09] <Aprilia`> avendo un pc nn molto vecchio
[16:09] <Aprilia`> ho installa la 15.04
[16:09] <Aprilia`> installato*
[16:09] <Aprilia`> fatto i vari aggiornamente etc etc
[16:10] <Aprilia`> uso er programmino pe scannare
[16:10] <Aprilia`> bello e buono
[16:10] <Aprilia`> me crolla tutto il network
[16:10] <Aprilia`> come se si riavviasse er modem
[16:11] <Aprilia`> ce un modo per limitare?
[16:11] <krabador> Aprilia`, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[16:12] <krabador> sudo lshw -C network | pastebinit
[16:12] <Aprilia`> aspeeee
[16:12] <Aprilia`> famme appiccia er portatile
[16:16] <Aprilia`> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[16:16] <Aprilia`> sudo lshw -C network | pastebinit
[16:17] <david___1> krabador: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11697072/
[16:18] <krabador> Aprilia`, dopo aver aggiornato hai riavviato il sistema?
[16:18] <Aprilia`> certo
[16:20] <krabador> Aprilia`, e il network esplode solo dopo "uso er programmino pe scannare" ?
[16:21] <Aprilia`> tutti i programmi pe scannare
[16:21] <Aprilia`> ma se navigo me voglio vedere un video su yt
[16:21] <Aprilia`> funziona bene
[16:31] <Aprilia`> e cosi mori' krabador
[16:31] <Aprilia`> ;|
[16:31] <Aprilia`> :P
[16:35] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> cia
[16:40] <Luigi48> Ciao ho già avuto un suggerimento ma non ho risolto il problema.. sto installando ubuntu 14.10, ho un PC cohe funziona con windows 7 home premium. Ho fatto CD ed ho installato con la funzione che prevede sia windows che ubuntu. Al termine ho riavviato e dopo qualche secondo comapre
[16:40] <Luigi48> Dopo il riavvio del pc compare questa dicitura: Installa (ad superuser) Partizionamento del disco selezionato non riuscito (ad superuser) Questo si è probabilmente verificato perché ci sono troppe partizioni primarie nella tabella delle partizioni.
[16:40] <Luigi48> Andando avaati spunta:
[16:40] <Luigi48> Nessul file system di root (ad superuser) Non è definito alcun file system di root correggere questo problema dal menù di partizione.
[16:40] <Luigi48> Sono andato a vedere il mio disco fisso, il disco 0 è ripartito in 4 parti. la prima contiene il ripristino, la seconda è system attivo partizione primaria e poi C e D entrambi partizione primaria. Cosa posso fare ?
[16:41] <Luigi48> Ciao Marcello sai consigliarmi ?
[16:42] <krabador> Luigi48, hai detto prima di aver installato con wubi
[16:43] <krabador> hai disinstallato wubi? Se si , come hai eseguito la procedura di installazione successiva?
[16:43] <Luigi48> No ho disinstallato e reinstallato con la funzione windows + ubuntu. Mi è sato consigliato prima
[16:43] <krabador> "con la funzione windows + ubuntu" ---> cosa ha fatto l'installer quando hai selezionato con quest'opzione?
[16:43] <krabador> -con
[16:44] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> dall'errore sembra che non ha impostato la partizione dove dovrà risiedere /
[16:45] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> ma se ha installato con wubi in teoria ha fatto tutto in automatico...
[16:45] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> anche se non ho mai utilizzato wubi per installare ubuntu :D
[16:46] <Luigi48> ha installato nuovamente ubuntu fino alla fine correttamente poi è comparso il messaggio di riavvio e così ho fatto, dopo un po di secondi sono comparsi i due messaggi , il primo " i sono troppe partizioni primarie ( ce ne sono 4) e poi nessun file system di root
[16:47] <krabador> sulle partizioni il sistema si interroga prima
[16:47] <krabador> non esegue l'installazione
[16:47] <krabador> per poi porsi il problema
[16:47] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> e infatti!
[16:47] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> parte dopo
[16:47] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> prima ti fa preparare i dischi
[16:47] <krabador> Luigi48, manda in boot il cd che hai fatto per installare
[16:48] <krabador> con l'opzione "prova senza installare"
[16:48] <krabador> che è la prima in alto
[16:48] <krabador> se hai un cavo lan, lo attacchi a questa macchina
[16:48] <krabador> e puoi connetterti qui
[16:48] <Luigi48> Quindi dovrei disinstallare e poi scegliere la prima opzione
[16:49] <krabador> no
[16:49] <krabador> rileggi bene quello che ho scritto
[16:51] <krabador> per avere informazioni precise sullo stato attuale del pc in questione, fa partire in boot il supporto di installazione che hai fatto
[16:51] <krabador> ubuntu o derivata?
[16:53] <Luigi48> Mi dice che c'è gia un'installazione, per procedere dovrei rimuoverla
[16:55] <krabador> Luigi48, allora
[16:55] <krabador> per favore
[16:55] <krabador> rispondi alle domande
[16:55] <krabador> come per esempio "<krabador> ubuntu o derivata?"
[16:57] <Luigi48> Ho rimesso il CD il messaggio è quello che ti ho scritto. C'è gia un'installazione e posso solo rimuovere la precedente
[16:58] <krabador> Luigi48, ti ho segnalato precisamente
[16:58] <krabador> di caricare il supporto di installazione
[16:58] <krabador> con l'opzione "prova senza installare"
[16:58] <Luigi48> dove lo trovo
[16:58] <krabador> ti ho chiesto esattamente 2 volte
[16:59] <krabador> se parliamo di ubuntu o derivata
[16:59] <Luigi48> ubuntu
[16:59] <krabador> ovvero lubuntu xubntu kubuntu ubuntustudio
[16:59] <krabador> ooooh
[16:59] <Luigi48> ubuntu 14-10
[16:59] <krabador> hai questa http://i.stack.imgur.com/GtEi5.png ?
[17:00] <Luigi48> No
[17:00] <krabador> che cos'hai esattamente appena parte il supporto di installazione?
[17:01] <Luigi48> quando lancio l'installazione si apre la solita finestra con due barre che lentamente si riempiono in circa 20 minuti
[17:02] <krabador> Luigi48, non quando lanci l'installazioe
[17:02] <krabador> ma quando parte il supporto
[17:02] <krabador> all'accensione del pc
[17:04] <Luigi48> dici il programma esce un'immagine che indica un caricamento e dopo qualche secondo compare il messaggio : Installa (ad superuser) Partizionamento del disco selezionato non riuscito (ad superuser) Questo si è probabilmente verificato perché ci sono troppe partizioni primarie nella tabella delle partizioni.
[17:05] <krabador> Luigi48, come fai partire il supporto di installazione ?
[17:05] <Luigi48> riavvio il PC
[17:06] <krabador> Luigi48, ti sto chiedendo di indicarmi precisamente cosa fai per far partire il supporto di installazione
[17:07] <Luigi48> grazie moolte per l'attenzione.Devo interrompere perchè devo partire fra poco
[17:08] <krabador> ok, torna quando hai tempo
[18:12] <akkyuz> ciao a tuti, sono nuovo di linux, qualcuno può darmi una mano?
[18:13] <cybernova> !qualcuno | akkyuz
[18:13] <cybernova> akkyuz, chiedi pure
[18:13] <akkyuz> grazie
[18:13] <krabador> akkyuz, se sei in pericolo di vita, rivolgiti a strutture sanitarie
[18:13] <akkyuz> per il mometo sto bene :)
[18:14] <akkyuz> ho scaricato un gioco, ho salvato la cartella sul desktop, adesso non so più cosa devo fare per farlo partire :)
[18:14] <akkyuz> so che non esistono eseguibili come in windows, devo fare qualcosa da console?
[18:14] <krabador> akkyuz, puoi leggere la documentazione del gioco
[18:14] <akkyuz> ho letto non c'è scritto
[18:15] <krabador> akkyuz, da dove l'hai scaricato ?
[18:15] <akkyuz> da torrent
[18:17] <krabador> e allora
[18:17] <krabador> carissimo akkyuz
[18:17] <krabador> non sei nel posto giusto per informazioni del tipo che ti servono
[18:17] <akkyuz> ok grazie lo stesso
[18:17] <akkyuz> ciao
[18:17] <krabador> addio
[18:17] <krabador> akkyuz, un attimo
[18:17] <krabador> aspetta
[18:19] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> è andato
[18:19] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> :D
[18:22] <krabador> peccato, doveva sapere che adesso parte una segnalazione alla postale
[18:23] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> azz
[18:23] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> sarà un ragazzino adolescente!
[18:23] <krabador> appunto, deve imparare da subito
[18:24] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> si ma il gioco che ha scaricato da torrent magari era freeware
[18:24] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> visto che dice che non è con estensione exe
[18:24] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> ma su linux molti giochi anzi quasi tutti sono free
[18:24] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> krabador subito vuoi giustiziarlo
[18:24] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> a freddo!
[18:24] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> :D
[18:25] <krabador> Bl4ckSheLL[BNC], magari si , magari no, se era freeware l'uomo medio non usa il torrent
[18:25] <krabador> parliamoci chiaro
[18:25] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> be ma se nn sei sicuro
[18:25] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> la postale ti ride in faccia :D
[18:25] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> te lo dico perchè lavoro nel settore..
[18:25] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> ;)
[18:25] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> nn si mettono a guardare chi scarica un torrent
[18:25] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> pensano a cose più grosse
[18:26] <krabador> Bl4ckSheLL[BNC], allora capirai , visto che sei del settore, che "aspetta un attimo " era per appurare appunto questo
[18:26] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> la tua teoria è giusta!
[18:26] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> ma io parlo in perdita di tempo da parte tua
[18:26] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> sarebbe una segnalazione vana
[18:26] <krabador> Bl4ckSheLL[BNC], senti "<krabador> peccato, doveva sapere che adesso parte una segnalazione alla postale" ---> ironia
[18:27] <alessio_> ciao a tutti
[18:27] <alessio_> :)
[18:27] <krabador> !ciao | alessio_
[18:27] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> :D
[18:27] <alessio_> non so se sono nel posto giusto e vi chiedo scusa per il disturbo
[18:27] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> addirittura :D
[18:27] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> sei il benvenuto
[18:27] <alessio_> ahaha beh si
[18:27] <alessio_> grazie.!
[18:27] <alessio_> andro al sodo!
[18:28] <alessio_> premetto che un pochino ci mastico. anche se rimango sempre un junior....
[18:28] <alessio_> ma non riesco a installare nessuna distro sul mio acer 2509
[18:29] <alessio_> pur settando il bios(ora uefi)
[18:29] <alessio_> instalalto c'è di fabbrica linpus linux lite
[18:29] <krabador> alessio_, come fai la pendrive ?
[18:29] <alessio_> vorrei instalalre ubuntu. creo bootable usb
[18:30] <alessio_> unetboot
[18:30] <alessio_> e linux pen drive
[18:30] <alessio_> formatto prima la chiavetta in fat 32
[18:30] <alessio_> ho rpovato con versioni 32 e 64 bit
[18:30] <alessio_> anche piu vecchie ma nulla
[18:30] <alessio_> ho disabilitato secureboot
[18:31] <alessio_> cosa posso sbagliare krabador
[18:31] <alessio_> ?
[18:31] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> il tuo problema
[18:32] <krabador> alessio_, allora, scarica universall usb installer
[18:32] <krabador> formatta la pendrive, e rifalla con quello
[18:32] <krabador> alessio_, controlla l'md5 della iso che hai scaricato
[18:32] <alessio_> fatto è tutto ok, anche perche lho presa dal sito ufficiale
[18:33] <alessio_> kabrador ho usato anche quello
[18:33] <alessio_> :(
[18:34] <krabador> alessio_, e perchè non l'hai detto prima?
[18:35] <alessio_> ne ho provati cosi tanti ..sorry :)
[18:36] <alessio_> quale altro dato puoi aver bisogno?
[18:36] <alessio_> ho provato anche una versione a 32 bit
[18:37] <alessio_> ed ho provato con kubuntu
[18:37] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> krabador invece a me sai che succede!
[18:37] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> nn capisco il motivo
[18:37] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> ho installato elementary os
[18:37] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> su un portatile
[18:37] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> avendo gnome
[18:37] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> mi va lento
[18:37] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> ad aprire le cose
[18:37] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> una schifezza gigante
[18:38] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> questo problema lo da anche ubuntu
[18:38] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> 15.04
[18:38] <krabador> alessio_, sembra essere poco ubuntu digeribile
[18:39] <krabador> Bl4ckSheLL[BNC], chiedi a DD3my
[18:39] <alessio_> ma leggo da internet che su stessi pc funziona
[18:39] <alessio_> acer extensa 2509
[18:39] <krabador> alessio_, posta pure un link
[18:39] <alessio_> per dettagli, non riesco ad accere neanche a al "prova ubuntu live"
[18:39] <alessio_> qui http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=594353
[18:40] <alessio_> mio stesso pc
[18:42] <krabador> e tu hai " cambiato il "boot mode" da UEFI a legacy" , come segnalato nel thread ?
[18:42] <alessio_> si
[18:42] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> a DD3,y
[18:42] <Bl4ckSheLL[BNC]> :D
[18:43] <alessio_> sicuramente devo far qualcosa male io perchè non mi si blocca qualsiasi distro ai "pallini colorati"
[18:44] <krabador> alessio_, allora va in boot?
[18:44] <krabador> "<alessio_> anche piu vecchie ma nulla"
[18:44] <krabador> se hai i pallini , va in boot.
[18:45] <alessio_> si, ma si blocca li
[18:47] <krabador> alessio_, rifa la pendrive con universal usb installer
[18:47] <krabador> che unetbootin non consente di inserire parametri al boot
[18:48] <krabador> quando parte la pendrive, selezioni la prova
[18:48] <krabador> premi f6
[18:48] <krabador> selezioni nomodeset
[18:48] <krabador> "<krabador> quando parte la pendrive, selezioni la prova" ---> ti posizioni sulla voce di prova
[18:50] <alessio_> ok ci provo! che distro a questo punto? vado di 12.04 o 14.04
[18:50] <alessio_> ?
[18:58] <krabador> alessio_, anche la 15.04
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-es
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[07:01] * merrick emos días.
[13:19] <loadmasther> Buenos Días a todos
[13:23] <guampa> buenas
[16:21] <tresmundos666> hola amigos alguien sabe como solucionar el problema cuando las actualizaciones se quedan trabadas, recinicias la pc pero al momento de instalar algo desde la terminal te da el error del dpkg
[16:32] <guampa> cual error?
[16:55] <tresmundos666> el error de centro de actualizacion aveces se traba tengo que reiniciar la pc y en terminal me sale eso
[17:00] <guampa> no se que es "eso". por eso pregunto cual error
[17:01] <guampa> sin el error exacto que te sale no hay forma de responder tu consulta
[17:07] <tresmundos666> el error me pide que en la terminal ponga sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:07] <tresmundos666> pero al momento de hacerlo me hace lo mismo se me queda frizado
[17:08] <guampa> no tenes manera de pasar los mensajes por pastebin?
[17:09] <tresmundos666> tuve que volver a instalar ubuntu porque no me dejaba hacer nada
[17:09] <tresmundos666> E: dpkg se interrumpió, debe ejecutar manualmente «sudo dpkg --configure -a» para cor
[17:10] <guampa> y que error sale cuando corres el comando que sugiere ahi?
[17:11] <GridCube> tendra que desbloquear manualmente apt
[17:11] <tresmundos666> osea que se queda ahi y ya no procigue en nada
[17:12] <GridCube> sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[17:14] <tresmundos666> ya hice todo eso en terminal y nada te digo que se me friza todo el sistema operativo
[17:20] <merrick> el /boot lo tienes lleno
[17:21] <tresmundos666> como voy a tener el boot lleno si el os ubuntu lo tengo en otro disco duro
[17:21] <merrick> pues no lo se... por eso lo pregunto.
[17:22] <merrick> si no das apenas info... nosotros no somos adivinos.
[17:24] <tresmundos666> como de que no si estoy informando de mi problema con synaptic el centro de actualizaciones
[19:32] <aprendis> Saludos, instalé una version 12.04 porque no tenia internet y ahora no me deja actualizar los paquetes
[20:07] <mimecar> aprendis, ¿qué error te da?
[20:59] <aprendis> mimemar, error 404 sobre los repositorios, como sino los encontrara, no todos, pero la mayoria, y son los que venian por defecto
[21:01] <fernando> hola
[21:01] <Guest96723> ubuntu o mate ??????
[21:10] <fernando28> UBUNTU MATE O UBUNTU
[21:12] <Galico> Buenas. Estoy intentando actualizar mi kubuntu, y no lo consigo. He prograbado de hacer un
[21:12] <Galico> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get distupgrade
[21:12] <Galico> Me lo hace pero no se actualiza a la version 15
[21:12] <Galico> Tambien he lanzado un $ do-release-upgrade
[21:12] <Galico> Me dice que no encuentra version nueva. Me han dicho que lo tengo que hacer a mano, pero yo ahi ya me pierdo. Alguien sabe de algun sitio donde lo explique?
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2015-06-11-#juju
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[15:58] <rick_h_> PSA: we're migrating jujucharms.com to the new environment and experiencing some glitches atm. Work in progress
[16:45] <rick_h_> PSA: migration aborted for now, things should be back to 'normal'
[17:00] <Destreyf> When adding a machine, should it set up a virbr0 with the ip 192.168.122.1 like it does on the bootstrap node?
[17:00] <Destreyf> using manual provisioning
[17:04] <marcoceppi> Destreyf: I'm not sure, I think that virbr0 is only for KVM stuff?
[17:05] <Destreyf> my 2nd machine is trying to connect 192.168.122.1
[17:05] <Destreyf> and it can't reach it
[17:28] <lazyPower> Destreyf: juju uses hardcoded ip addressing with host only networking when deploying to containers/kvm
[17:29] <Destreyf> lazyPower: so there's no way to mix lxc and physical machines?
[17:29] <lazyPower> Destreyf: this is a known issue, and we have some solutions to work around it using flannel, calico, and a few other SDN providers that are being worked on
[17:29] <Destreyf> ah okay
[17:29] <Destreyf> lazyPower: that was the information i needed, thank you
[17:29] <lazyPower> Destreyf: there is, but if you need reachability into that instance, you should look at flannel-docker charm which will spin up a flannel0 interface
[17:29] <lazyPower> and that gives you a private networking space to interfact with services on your network
[17:29] <lazyPower> if you're using LXC containers
[17:29] <lazyPower> there's additional work that needs to be done
[17:30] <lazyPower> we dont have a magic bullet charm that will configure your containers properly atm
[17:30] <lazyPower> well, kind of, but its a weird deployment pattern
[17:30] <lazyPower> theres an older flannel charm in ~hazmat's namespace
[17:30] <lazyPower> and if you deploy that charm to a host *first*
[17:31] <lazyPower> as in before doing juju deploy --to lxc:#
[17:31] <lazyPower> it will configure flannel based networking for any lxc containers created after the fact
[17:31] <Destreyf> lazyPower: I'm trying to do something stupid, but its a test case scenario
[17:31] <hazmat> fortunately it has the binaries in it, so old but still works ;-)
[17:31] <lazyPower> hazmat: o/ :)
[17:31] <Destreyf> lazyPower: any experience with using juju on debian?
[17:31] <lazyPower> hazmat: its funny you say that, i just updated that entire ecosystem
[17:31] <hazmat> lazyPower: i know
[17:31] <Destreyf> because juju... is fantastic in its relationship management
[17:32] <lazyPower> Destreyf: i haven't personally, no
[17:32] <lazyPower> i've used juju on windows, and juju on ubuntu so far
[17:32] <lazyPower> there's one or two centos based charms out there too that our partners cloudbase have been working on
[17:32] <lazyPower> but i have yet to get my hands on a debian charm
[17:32] <hazmat> Destreyf: there's some patches out there for it, but its not out of the box afaicr, the cloudbase folks might know more
[17:32] <lazyPower> hazmat: its inc. actually
[17:32] <lazyPower> the work has been done
[17:32] <lazyPower> i dont think its landed yet tho
[17:33] <hazmat> lazyPower: oh.. awesome
[17:33] <lazyPower> hazmat: mbruzek was looking for dockercon hackathon participants btw, do you have any interest in hackathon'ing with us?
[17:34] <Destreyf> hazmat, lazyPower thank you very much for your time, you've answered questions that i've been racking my brain on for 2 days now
[17:34] <lazyPower> Destreyf: anytime :)
[17:34] <lazyPower> and on that note i need to grab a quick lunch, if you need anything else dont hesitate to ping Destreyf
[17:34] <lazyPower> i'll circle back when i get back from lunch
[17:35] <hazmat> lazyPower: i'll be there, haven't decided on anything yet in terms of projects, i've got two ideas, one is really boring, but just a pull request idea i wanted to work on (ie. won't win, but accomploshies a personal goal), the other is more like a gee whiz thing, also not a winner. preference is to hack in go at the event
[17:35] <lazyPower> hazmat: i think they would be receptive to *any* ideas
[17:35] <lazyPower> i came up with some good suggestions on how to get ideas but no clear idea winners. so far its just mbruzek and wwitzel3 for camp juju
[17:35] <lazyPower> they just released that you can have up to 10 ppl in a hack team
[17:36] <lazyPower> which is a big change from the eventbrite page we signed up on so many moons ago
[17:36] <lazyPower> it was originally 3 per pod
[17:36] <hazmat> so nutshell one was adding proxy support for building images, the other was setting up an ssh server that attached to a container namespace.
[17:36] <lazyPower> so we're scrambling to either find ppl or come up with a game plan to show up and just pollenate other teams
[17:36] <lazyPower> oh dude
[17:36] <lazyPower> ssh server + container namespace = interesting
[17:36] <lazyPower> whats the objective behind that?
[17:37] <hazmat> lazyPower: darned if i know ;-).. solomon suggested it to me at the ams dockercon hackathon
[17:37] <lazyPower> haha
[17:37] <lazyPower> fair enough :)
[17:37] <lazyPower> allright, brb o/
[17:40] <Destreyf> hazmat: on flannel
[17:40] <Destreyf> the 10.10.x
[17:40] <Destreyf> is that x the machine number?
[17:40] <Destreyf> so machine 0 is 10.10.0.0/24
[17:40] <Destreyf> and machine 1 is 10.10.1.0/24
[17:41] <hazmat> Destreyf: basically yes, the 10.10.0.0/16 is just the cidr for the cluster, each machine gets a /24 for containers on it
[17:42] <Destreyf> hazmat: so the 3rd octet is different for each machine though?
[17:42] <hazmat> Destreyf: ie. its more like a container on machine 0 has 10.10.0.1/28 and a container on machine 1 has 10.10.1.1/28 .. the machines themselves have subnets assigned to them, but they don't have ips from the cluster range
[17:42] <Destreyf> k
[17:44] <hazmat> Destreyf: upstream has a few more modes added since my version of the charm was first published, lazyPower would know more about the latest version, most importantly they support configuring under iaas substrates for zero overhead, and using in kernel data plane paths (vxlan over udp) for faster performance.. the version in my charm was just doing udp
[17:44] <hazmat> overlay afaicr.
[17:49] <Destreyf> hazmat: do you recommend i use it from yours or the upstream?
[17:50] <hazmat> Destreyf: i'd use lazyPower's newer one, i'm not actively working on charms atm
[17:51] <hazmat> Destreyf: not sure if the newer one also works with lxc, there's also limited juju support in 1.24 for managing iaas routing for container addressabilty (lxc) with ec2 (only using default vpc if enabled on an account and maas)
[17:51] <Destreyf> hazmat: hsi is listed as flannel-docker
[18:05] <lazyPower> right, it will install the flannel0 bridge if related to a non-docker host
[18:05] <lazyPower> otherwise it reconfigures docker for use with flannel
[18:06] <lazyPower> there's more work that needs to be done w/ flannel to make it work with LXC containers. namely lxc introspection, reconfiguring of existing containers, and ensuring lxc is reconfigured to start new containers w/ the flannel networking enabled by default
[18:06] <Destreyf> looks like i'm uzing hazmats :D
[18:06] <lazyPower> ya know, small stuff :)
[18:06] <lazyPower> i would for now, its older, but gets the job done.
[18:06] <lazyPower> once we have the newer stack updated for lxc, migration should be a short hop jump skip and --replace away
[18:06] <lazyPower> er --switch
[18:50] * mbruzek reads scrollback
[18:50] <mbruzek> Thanks for the ideas hazmat
[18:50] <mbruzek> hazmat: do you have any interest in the hackathon competition?
[21:51] <Destreyf> hazmat: sorry to bug you so much, how hard would it be to change the ip address inside of flannel?
[21:53] <lazyPower> Destreyf: the ip address you get back from flannel is determined by etcd
[21:54] <Destreyf> hazmat: so under hoooks, i see flannel_network set to 10.10.0.0/16, this would be the spot right?
[21:54] <Destreyf> hooks.py*
[21:54] <Destreyf> oh
[21:54] <Destreyf> lazyPower: replied not hazmat
[21:54] <Destreyf> :D
[21:54] <Destreyf> i saw a reply and assumed
[21:54] <Destreyf> that's bad of me
[21:54] <lazyPower> Destreyf: yeah if you change that it should change the A block
[21:55] <Destreyf> awesome, what would be the best way to go about routing connections to these? so i can access from say my pc (currently) 10.10.81.254
[21:55] <Destreyf> my ip is 10.5.1.36
[21:56] <lazyPower> Destreyf: im not sure I understand what you're trying to do
[21:56] <Destreyf> me either, let me think it over
[21:56] <Destreyf> i appreciate your help
[21:56] <lazyPower> are you trying to setup a vxlan between your desktop and those containers?
[21:57] <lazyPower> if thats the case, you have 2 options. 1) setup a vpn style connection to a machine that has a flannel0 interface. Such as using sshuttle
[21:57] <lazyPower> 2) Install flannel on your pc to gain teh flannel0 interface and join in the vxlan.
[21:57] <Destreyf> basically, say i install a service, say wordpres on a lxc container, using hazmat's flannal charm, how can i access the wordpress that' d be hosted there
[21:57] <lazyPower> ah, why not deploy haproxy on the parent node
[21:57] <lazyPower> and reverse proxy to the wordpress charm?
[21:58] <Destreyf> and you are geneous
[21:58] <lazyPower> you dont even need flannel for that :) its host-only networking
[21:58] <Destreyf> lazyPower: reason for flannel is HA setups between machines, containers and the likes
[21:58] <Destreyf> on the LXC side
[21:59] <lazyPower> Destreyf: check this out
[21:59] <lazyPower> http://blog.dasroot.net/container-networking-with-flannel.html
[21:59] <lazyPower> its a little dated now
[21:59] <lazyPower> i need to do an updated post with the new stuff
[22:00] <Destreyf> also lazyPower i haven't looked in depth, but any chance you guys support (or would support) linode as a backend?
[22:00] <lazyPower> we currently support linode with the manual provider
[22:00] <Destreyf> lazyPower: that's what i figured
[22:00] <lazyPower> but you do lose some of the magic, as you manually add machines to your env.
[22:00] <Destreyf> lazyPower: i'm currently doing manual adding anyways for tests/local hardware without MAAS
[22:00] <lazyPower> there's been talk of writing a linode manual provider plugin based on hazmat's work w/ the DO provider plugin but nobody's taken on the project yet.
[22:01] <Destreyf> lazyPower: i might just do it one of these days
[22:01] <Destreyf> awww the link's broken
[22:01] <Destreyf> XD
[22:01] <lazyPower> which link Destreyf?
[22:01] <Destreyf> on that article you linked
[22:01] <lazyPower> hmm.. shouldn't be
[22:01] <Destreyf> it mentions his do provider
[22:02] <Destreyf> http://blog.dasroot.net/juju-digital-ocean-awesome
[22:02] <lazyPower> lame :|
[22:02] <lazyPower> http://blog.dasroot.net/juju-digital-ocean-awesome.html
[22:02] <Destreyf> yeah
[22:02] <Destreyf> found it
[22:02] <lazyPower> thats what i get for migrating from ghost to pelican without running a broken link checker against my content
[22:56] * hazmat yawns
[23:16] <cholcombe> this might be a flawed finding but i noticed that juju log logs any std out that your program writes regardless if you call log or not. Is that weird?
[23:57] <thumper> cholcombe: nah... expected
[23:57] <thumper> but probably not well documented :)
[23:57] <thumper> o/ hazmat
[23:58] <hazmat> thumper: greetings
[23:58] <thumper> hazmat: do you know much about tox?
[23:58] <thumper> hazmat: I have a MP up for python-jujuclient
[23:58] <thumper> but couldn't get the tests working
[23:58] <hazmat> thumper: what was the error?
[23:59] * thumper finds the mp
[23:59] <thumper> https://code.launchpad.net/~thumper/python-jujuclient/jes-cache-file/+merge/261586 it is on there
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2015-06-11-#xubuntu
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[03:55] <xubuntu09w> Hi I use Kate under Xubuntu 15.04. It does not save/restore current session/recent files on exit/start and does not import highl. templates. It seems not to use ~/.kde/share/config at all
[03:56] <holstein> shouldnt be anything "breaking" that from xubuntu.. are you seeing that config file? have you tried as another user?
[04:27] <xubuntu09w> Kate saves its sessions in $HOME/.config/session. But it does not restore them. Under a new user, it keeps the "recent files" list between logouts. Not as the original user.
[04:27] <holstein> xubuntu09w: i would look at my users settings, then, if its isolated to that user.. could be, something you have brought from an older version? another install? etc
[04:31] <xubuntu09w> This was a clean install of 15.04. In Kate I switched on session saving and recent files list 30 entries.
[04:32] <xubuntu09w> Just tried to open Help for Kate. This might contain some hints: Cannot talk to klauncher: The name org.kde.klauncher5 was not provided by any .service files
[04:33] <holstein> i would blow the relevant configs away, if its working as another user..
[04:33] <holstein> you can always save them, and revert, if you want..
[09:10] <user2e> hello everyone,trying to save modifications done in terminal to a file and can't get out of editing mode (ctrl+x) won't do it
[09:14] <knome> which file?
[09:16] <user2e> thanks knome,file i edited is /etc/xdrp/startwm.sh
[09:16] <user2e> using gnu nano
[09:17] <knome> how did you edit it?
[09:17] <knome> which command did you issue?
[09:18] <user2e> did echo xfce4-session >~/.xsession and then
[09:19] <user2e> nano /etc/xrdp/startwm.sh
[09:19] <knome> you'll need sudo in order to be able to edit that file
[09:19] <user2e> ok,how do i exit nano now if you can tell me
[09:19] <knome> ctrl+x
[09:19] <knome> and see what nano saus
[09:19] <knome> *says
[09:20] <user2e> it says save modifed? Y N then i choose Y and just go back to last options,won't exit
[09:20] <knome> yes... since you still can't save the modifications, you should just quit
[09:20] <user2e> oh ok
[09:20] <user2e> was concerned quitting may mess it up
[09:20] <user2e> thanks again knome will try again using sudo before the commands.
[09:21] <knome> you only need it for the last one
[09:21] <knome> don't use sudo when you don't need to
[09:21] <user2e> ok
[09:24] <user2e> still won't let me exit,did sudo nano /etc/xrdp/startwm.sh
[09:25] <knome> so... what does it say now then?
[09:25] <user2e> same thing in gnu nano,ctrl+x then Y and it won't exit,only option is ctrl+c to cancel
[09:26] <knome> that's because ctrl+x isn't "save and quit"
[09:27] <knome> what does nano say after you press "Y"?
[09:27] <knome> the best advice i can give you is... pay attention to what you are doing, and think with your own brains
[09:27] <knome> if you blindly follow a tutorial or somebody helping you, you'll never learn
[09:29] <user2e> ok,was likely trying to save time on this will try and do as you suggest,new to linux and will read on the other options like append prepand dos format and others.
[09:29] <knome> that's likely not necessary though
[09:29] <knome> (just try hitting enter)
[09:29] <user2e> lol
[09:30] <user2e> thanks man,that's all it was
[09:30] <knome> sure
[09:30] <user2e> have a nice day :) bye
[09:30] <knome> bye
[20:26] <spicypixel> I've got some ghost items in my menu that the menu editor doesn't list, and have been apt-get purged but still show (minus the icons)
[20:26] <spicypixel> any way to force rebuild the app launcher menu?
[20:42] <knome> spicypixel, it's likely that the desktop files (which are used to build the items) are invalid
[20:42] <knome> this is why menulibre doesn't show them
[20:43] <spicypixel> yeah I've found them and removed them
[20:43] <knome> the menu should update automatically
[20:43] <knome> if it doesn't, then you likely have some desktop files left somewhere
[20:44] <spicypixel> it did
[20:44] <spicypixel> thanks
[20:44] <knome> no problem
[21:55] <hylian> hello all
[21:56] <knome> hello.
[22:12] <xubuntu97w> hello !
[22:12] <knome> hello
[22:12] <xubuntu97w> I have a question about tar.gz files
[22:13] <xubuntu97w> I'm a beginner i the xubuntu word
[22:13] <xubuntu97w> how to install a software with the extension .tar.gz?
[22:13] <xubuntu97w> in xubuntu?
[22:14] <knome> is that software not available in the software repositories?
[22:14] <xubuntu97w> yes ans no
[22:14] <xubuntu97w> the software is Geary
[22:14] <xubuntu97w> but the version in the software center is 0.6
[22:14] <ochosi> there is even a PPA for geary if you're not happy with the version provided in the official channels
[22:14] <xubuntu97w> and the latest version is 0.10
[22:15] <ochosi> that would be much better than trying to build geary yourself (which is what you have to do with a tar.gz archive)
[22:15] <xubuntu97w> ok
[22:15] <xubuntu97w> If I'm not wrong, I can have it from teh PPA but for the 0.6 version
[22:15] <xubuntu97w> not the 0.10
[22:16] <ochosi> lmgtfy: https://launchpad.net/~yorba/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[22:17] <ochosi> xubuntu97w: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=geary+ppa+ubuntu
[22:18] <xubuntu97w> thank a lot
[22:19] <ochosi> np
[22:19] <xubuntu97w> If I use your method, I will be able to install the latest version 0.10?
[22:19] <ochosi> have you used PPAs before?
[22:19] <xubuntu97w> yes 1 or 2 times..
[22:20] <ochosi> right, then you can simply check what versions of geary are available for the version of ubuntu/xubuntu you're using on that launchpad site i linked above
[22:21] <xubuntu97w> ok
[22:22] <xubuntu97w> okkkk... understood now
[22:23] <xubuntu97w> i can have the 0.10
[22:23] <ochosi> there you go
[22:23] <xubuntu97w> any advice on a book or internet site if I want some informations about .tar.gz files??
[22:24] <xubuntu97w> well explained of course...
[22:24] <knome> xubuntu97w, .tar.gz is basically just a container format (like .zip), there is no single way how they should be dealt with
[22:25] <xubuntu97w> so.. If I download a tar.gz... how do I uncompress and install the software ?
[22:25] <xubuntu97w> I had a quick look on internet and it looks a bit compicated..
[22:25] <ochosi> the general advice is not to install software by hand if you don't know what you're doing
[22:26] <xubuntu97w> ok
[22:26] <ochosi> the software center is there for a reason
[22:26] <knome> as i just said, there is no "one stop guide" for that, it depends
[22:26] <xubuntu97w> so better to use the PPA if possible..
[22:26] <xubuntu97w> I guess..
[22:26] <ochosi> yeah, or ideally just the general repositories
[22:26] <xubuntu97w> ok
[22:26] <ochosi> even with PPAs you're installing software from untrusted sources, so to speak
[22:27] <xubuntu97w> so how to know if I install a trusted version if I use PPA??
[22:27] <xubuntu97w> trusted source...
[22:27] <knome> you don't.
[22:27] <xubuntu97w> ok
[22:27] <knome> PPA's are never considered trusted sources
[22:27] <ochosi> repositories == trusted. anything else == untrusted
[22:29] <xubuntu97w> last question..
[22:29] <xubuntu97w> I have Xubuntu installed alonside windows 8.1
[22:30] <xubuntu97w> I will ike to mount the windows folders automatically mounted in Xunbuntu..
[22:30] <xubuntu97w> is it possible?
[22:30] <xubuntu97w> I mean each time I start xubuntu...
[22:31] <knome> yes.
[22:31] <xubuntu97w> how?
[22:31] <knome> i thought that was the last question :(
[22:31] <xubuntu97w> it is... :)
[22:32] <knome> anyway, Unit193 can help
[22:32] <xubuntu97w> ok
[22:33] <xubuntu97w> I will contact him...
[22:33] <knome> just wait here :P
[22:33] <xubuntu97w> thanks a lot for your time
[22:33] <xubuntu97w> ok
[22:34] <Unit193> Generally speaking, I'd say using fstab is the method to do this. There may be some GUI way.
[22:34] <Unit193> Hello, please do keep it in channel, xubuntu97w.
[22:34] <xubuntu97w> ok
[22:35] <xubuntu97w> fstab? ok
[22:35] <xubuntu97w> I will check on google
[22:35] <Unit193> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab should do it.
[22:37] <xubuntu97w> thanks for the doc.
[22:37] <xubuntu97w> I will have a look and will come back to you if needed.
[22:37] <Unit193> It's not the easiest way, you could in theory maybe get gigolo to automount.
[22:38] <xubuntu97w> the easiest way between fstab and gigolo is ?
[22:39] <xubuntu97w> fstab?
[22:40] <Unit193> If gigolo can do it, it is a GUI rather than just a file to edit.
[22:42] <xubuntu97w> thanks for your time guys..
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[07:13] <diplo> Morning all
[07:32] <MooDoo> hello all
[07:47] <TwistedLucidity> Hello and welcome to "avoid Reddit" day
[07:49] <SuperMatt> yes, I've seen that they had accepted their social responsibility and removed hate groups, yet there's always someone who wants to complain
[07:49] <TwistedLucidity> Was it all of them? There were some rather darker corners
[07:51] <SuperMatt> well you can only really get the ones which are obvious
[07:51] <SuperMatt> but if I was running something dark, I wouldn't rely on reddit for it
[07:53] <diplo> TwistedLucidity: no only 5 or so
[07:53] <diplo> Still some quite extereme ones there that haven't been removed
[07:54] <directhex> they took out 5 seemingly minor ones, and left the big offenders
[07:54] <diplo> yeah that's what I thought too
[07:54] <directhex> the reasoning given is that they're policiing behaviour, not thought. so being a massive racist is fine, but being a massive racist at specific people is not
[07:54] <directhex> yes, reddit is on fire today though
[07:55] <directhex> i hope all the people threatening to leave for a competing site do so.
[07:56] <diplo> Probably won't though
[07:56] <directhex> npoe
[07:56] <directhex> they've been threatening to leave for years
[07:57] <SuperMatt> ok, this is where people forget there is a difference between freedom of speech, and inciting hatred.
[07:57] <directhex> someone asked about suing on /r/legaladvice
[07:58] <directhex> these kinds of hate-based neo-reactionaries (e.g. gamergaters) have a terrible time trying to understand that "i'm not listening to you" is not illegal. see also their legal threat based response to being blocked by people on twitter
[07:58] <SuperMatt> saying "I think fat people have themselves to blame and should do something about it" is OK, but saying "Lool, look at the fatty, aren't they disgusting! fat people should just die" is not ok
[07:58] <directhex> subs about rape techniques stay. subs about specific rape targets are not. stay classy, reddit!
[08:17] <foobarry> if you get annoyed by reddit, you're too old for it
[08:18] <diplo> heheh
[08:18] <foobarry> s/you/one/
[08:20] <TwistedLucidity> Also, reddit is not a place of free speech. It's private.
[08:21] <TwistedLucidity> Like, say, a shopping arcade.
[08:21] <TwistedLucidity> It may look like a street, you may think you retain various rights; but you are wrong. It's private land and some of your rights just evaporated.
[08:22] <TwistedLucidity> I like reddit for some of the local banter, news and whatnot.
[08:22] <TwistedLucidity> Oh, and the drama. Always with the drama.
[08:24] <foobarry> i only read 1 sub on there now
[08:24] <foobarry> and the linux one about 1nce a month if that
[08:25] <foobarry> although i also went to the button :|
[08:29] <TheGeek> Mornin
[08:29] <popey> pip pip
[08:35] <directhex> http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/10/8763247/ouya-selling-to-razer-says-report
[08:35] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: The main subs are lowest common denominator dross. The smaller ones are OK. Well, no worse than I'd imagine FB to be
[08:36] <Myrtti> I wonder what I'd need to do to get something 3D scanned in and then to have something made based on the dimensions scanned it (but not an exact copy) *nnnggghhh* I hate being a noob.
[08:36] <TwistedLucidity> directhex: Razer would seem to be a good fit, if the story is true
[08:39] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:46] <TheGeek> Myrtti, I would hazard some form of 3D lazer scanner would be in order.
[08:46] <Myrtti> or just very, very careful measurements
[08:47] <TheGeek> but wouldnt you rather play with one of these
[08:47] <TheGeek> https://www.goprint3d.co.uk/makerbot-digitizer.html?gclid=CjwKEAjw4-SrBRDP483GvreDr2ASJAD5sCIupDQrUGKH_0H1eBMRgHMItMzl5Sx1r60RAUEZUy0lExoCwYzw_wcB
[08:47] <Myrtti> I'm planning to buy a knitting machine and part of the project is replacing original 'motherboard' (which is attached to a cover and buttons) with an Arduino with a shield on top. The Arduino kit doesn't fit under the original covers so I recon new one would be in order
[08:48] <Myrtti> TheGeek: too small.
[08:48] <Myrtti> probably.
[08:48] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[08:55] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:55] <TwistedLucidity> Myrtti: How ghetto are you prepared to go?
[08:56] <TwistedLucidity> Because some perspex, making woode molds and an oven might do it.
[08:56] <TwistedLucidity> "wooden"
[08:57] <Myrtti> that's not a bad idea.
[08:58] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Ferris Bueller Day! 😃
[08:59] <TwistedLucidity> Myrtti: Of just root around for old plastic lunch boxes and see if one can be made to fit
[08:59] <TwistedLucidity> JamesTait: Sorry, I kinda stole your thunder and declared today "avoid reddit day"
[08:59] <JamesTait> wfm, TwistedLucidity.
[09:00] <TwistedLucidity> "Wood Fired Marshmallows"?
[09:00] <zmoylan-pi> works from marsh
[09:00] <TwistedLucidity> Whole Foods Massive?
[09:01] <zmoylan-pi> well reddit comments are about the level of youtube comments so nothing of value was lost
[09:02] <TwistedLucidity> I noticed that voat.co has collapsed under load.
[09:02] <zmoylan-pi> all those trolls trying to create a 1000 accounts each probably...
[09:02] <TwistedLucidity> Aye
[09:03] <JamesTait> TwistedLucidity, "Works for me" 😉
[09:07] <Myrtti> TwistedLucidity: or I could... uh. maybe... knit something. put it in a mould and uh... pour resin on it.
[09:07] <Myrtti> *snerk*
[09:10] <SuperMatt> http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/121259594477/ksplice
[09:11] <shauno> another angle would be to find an arduino that does fit?
[09:12] <zmoylan-pi> steam it over a hot kettle so it bends into shape that does fit... :-D
[09:12] <shauno> well, like there's the mini/nano variants if it's footprint
[09:12] <shauno> or the 'pro' variants if it's height
[09:12] * JamesTait lols at SuperMatt
[09:13] <shauno> (not really much cost difference, 'pro' is just smt instead through-hole, and usually bare holes instead of headers; resulting in vertically-challenged boards)
[09:14] <TwistedLucidity> SuperMatt: This one - http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/120174583354/the-service-is-broken-for-no-apparent-reason-10 shoudl speak to this one - http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/121177282330/when-turning-it-off-and-on-actually-fixes-the
[09:57] <davmor2> JamesTait: Oh Yeah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYGngLcS0u4
[09:58] <JamesTait> davmor2, Oh Yeah!
[09:59] <davmor2> JamesTait: More important when is Blues Brothers Day we can quote on that alll day long :)
[10:00] <zmoylan-pi> what day are taxes due in cook county?
[10:06] <zmoylan-pi> probably april 22 would be blues brothers day... http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/the-blues-brothers-make-their-world-premiere-on-saturday-night-live
[10:07] <davmor2> It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses.
[10:07] <zmoylan-pi> right, time to limp to lidl to see if they have any €20 bt keyboards left...
[10:08] <JamesTait> zmoylan-pi, I'm pretty sure that wasn't the next line.
[10:08] <JamesTait> davmor2, I think Blues Brothers Day is either next Tuesday or next Saturday - depending on whether you go for the earliest release date or just the USA release date.
[10:09] <davmor2> JamesTait: it's just dawned on me that Ferris Bueller isn't actually that quotable for such a cult movie
[10:09] <JamesTait> davmor2, Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
[10:14] <MooDoo> JamesTait: Pardon my French, but Davmor2 is so tight that if you stuck a lump of coal up his ass, in two weeks you'd have a diamond.
[10:14] <JamesTait> MooDoo, and davmor2 says it's not quotable. 😉
[10:15] <MooDoo> hehe
[10:16] <davmor2> JamesTait: no I said isn't that quotable there are maybe 6-7 good lines there rest are either conversations or need a visual accompaniment to make it make sense
[10:16] <zmoylan-pi> http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ferris_buellers_day_off/quotes/
[10:40] <diplo> My friend wants a way for 100's of people to upload wedding photos ( not FB ) any suggestions, don't want to have username/passes to use it though
[10:41] <diplo> Looked at owncloud/jquery file upload (blueimp ) thing, but can't seperate by directories per user easily
[10:43] <MooDoo> diplo - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/28/wedding-photo-apps_n_3519413.html
[10:43] <davmor2> diplo: they pretty much all need username and password
[10:43] <diplo> yeah so I've found, I *could* write something, I cba really though
[10:44] <awilkins> diplo, Syncthing?
[10:44] <diplo> Yeah MooDoo, seen those things
[10:44] <diplo> Debated that awilkins, but means non tech people installing/setting up
[10:44] <diplo> I like the blueimp thing, but no seperate dirs per user
[10:44] <TwistedLucidity> I was going to suggest ownCloud but....hmm...wonder if SeaFile or summat would give you the "per user" folder structure you want
[10:45] <TwistedLucidity> Shame most browsers suck at FTP support
[10:45] <diplo> Owncloud does anonymous uploading, only in Enterprise version though
[10:46] <TwistedLucidity> If you want a folder-per-user, I would have expected at least a username to be mandatory so the system knew where to shove the files
[10:46] <diplo> yeah more so they can create their own dir
[10:46] <awilkins> You have to pay... to remove the "log in" feature
[10:47] <awilkins> Wild.
[10:47] <diplo> heheh
[10:47] <diplo> "Enterprise"
[10:47] <awilkins> And you thought MS was the king of changing a build flag and selling it as "Enterprise"
[10:48] <awilkins> "Hey dogg, I changed MAX_MEM_CEILING to something more than 4GB for ya, that'll be another $200, ta."
[10:48] <bashrc> $200 per bit
[10:49] <davmor2> bashrc: per nibble
[10:49] <diplo> :)
[10:49] <TwistedLucidity> "zero ohm resistor"
[10:50] <awilkins> "conductive bridge abatement operation"
[10:50] <awilkins> (wire link snip)
[12:05] <davmor2> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/11666316/christopher-lee-dies-live.html noooooo
[12:09] <MooDoo> hmmm just read that.....hmmm they are all dropping like flies :(
[12:16] <popey> old people do that
[12:22] <shauno> 93's a helluva run
[12:48] <DJones> Its not often I congratulate MS for doing something good, but http://search.slashdot.org/story/15/06/11/1223236/ask-toolbar-now-considered-malware-by-microsoft Way to go MS :)
[12:48] <popey> ho ho
[12:50] <davmor2> yeah I bet the bing bar is still fine though right :D
[12:58] <ujjain> I want to try out shooting for the first time. All you have to do is to decide whether you wish to visit on a Saturday (sporting rifle) at 2.30 pm or a Thursday evening (prone rifle) at 8.00 pm. What is easier?
[14:03] <foobarry> the one they give girls
[14:03] <foobarry> apparently the kick off the rifle will give you bruising
[14:13] <shauno> it shouldn't be that bad, they're both sporting classes, just putting a .22 through a bit of paper
[14:14] <shauno> wrong country for las-vegas style "let's go blow chunks out of the range"
[14:18] <zmoylan-pi> try archery instead, much more fun
[14:20] <foobarry> my workmate went clay pigeon and said he was hurting after his session
[14:20] <foobarry> i like the sound of archery
[14:21] <zmoylan-pi> shooting with a shotgun has much more of a kick than a .22 rifle
[14:21] <diplo> My son wants me to take him to arxhery lessons
[14:21] <shauno> yeah, a shotgun is a different beast. if his choices are between prone & lightweight sporting, they're much the same
[14:21] <zmoylan-pi> if the uk is like ireland archery is available almost everywhere. it's suprising how many archery ranges there are about
[14:22] <shauno> lightweight sporting replaced pistol-class shooting when they made sporting pistols neigh-on impossible after dunblane
[14:22] <awilkins> I wonder how many of the laws that require us to practise archery on the village green are still in effect
[14:22] <awilkins> And whether that means we can just rock up with a target and start plinking arrows
[14:23] <zmoylan-pi> i was thought archery by ex irish special forces guy. he was chuck norris x steven segal levels of awesome :-D
[14:23] <popey> I went clay pigeon shooting at Bisley for a company jolly. Was exceptionally jolly!
[14:24] <shauno> I tried hunting in michigan. it was horrible.
[14:24] <popey> Would do again, which I said at the time - about 10 years ago - and never have since.
[14:31] <bashrc> hunts jaffa cakes
[14:33] <zmoylan-pi> be careful, a wounded jaffa cake can be nasty when cornered
[14:38] <shauno> jaffa cakes shouldn't have corners. they're mouth-shaped for a reason!
[14:39] * davmor2 shoots the jaffa cakes so bashrc can't have any muhahahahahahahaha ;)
[14:42] * zmoylan-pi hopes that shauno had a licence to hunt jaffa cakes out of season
[14:44] * zmoylan-pi loves the handing salmon in suspicious circumstances law in the uk :-) http://now-here-this.timeout.com/2013/03/11/londons-top-ten-weird-laws/
[16:48] <davmor2> popey: a waffer thin mint sir.....Oh come on sir just one waffer thin mint
[17:23] <bujji> hello all
[19:53] <diddledan> http://www.framestore.com/work/galaxy-choose-silk-chauffeur this is fascinating
[19:54] <diddledan> galaxy brought audrey hepburn out of retirement
[19:57] <MartijnVdS> wow.. local council is releasing a list of trees
[19:57] <MartijnVdS> in XML
[19:59] <MartijnVdS> http://opendata.alphenaandenrijn.nl/bomen.xml
[20:02] <diddledan> xml trees eh?
[20:03] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: yeah.. just look at that 21MB dump
[20:29] <popey> evening
[20:35] <daftykins> hallo there
[20:36] <daftykins> just had a heavy thunderstorm and some mild flooding at my place :(
[20:36] <popey> yoiks
[20:38] <daftykins> i'm not even low lying XD just pesky backed up drains
[21:15] <daftykins> i decided to power a few things off during the storm, which i never do. on firing back up my UPS was all "newp replace battery"
[21:15] <daftykins> turned it off again, back on... hooray it accepted it :D
[21:16] <popey> hah
[21:16] <popey> trickster ups
[21:16] <daftykins> it definitely is beyond life now though, i think i've been using that one for 10 years
[21:19] <daftykins> i saw a new kind of Yorkie chocolate bar in the shop just before :O Yorkie Peanut?
[21:19] <daftykins> new one on me
[21:27] <zmoylan-pi> they appear every few years
[21:33] <shauno> no idea why, they're obviously inferior to raisin yorkies
[21:34] <zmoylan-pi> putting raisans in chocolate is merely a waste of chocolate
[21:36] <daftykins> shauno: ^5! i just purchased a Raisin yorkie just then :>
[21:36] <daftykins> or raisin and biscuit even, i think they are o0
[21:36] <daftykins> ah this is great, today marks 3 months since i moved my old xbox360 account to Guernsey from the UK - only to discover that they don't let Guernseyans use xbox live
[21:37] <daftykins> finally just switched back to UK and can play online again \o/
[21:38] <shauno> you missed arguing with 13yos?
[21:38] <daftykins> i only play online with my friends :) we pretend they don't exist
[21:38] <daftykins> the xbox one has been fine thankfully, but their system instantly irreversibly bans any account that switches region within 3 months
[21:39] <shauno> ouch
[21:39] <shauno> I'd tell you my NES doesn't have these problems, but I'd start to sound like zmoylan-pi ;)
[21:39] <daftykins> XD
[21:40] * zmoylan-pi banishes shauno to guernsey....
[21:43] <shauno> hm.. do they get cable?
[21:44] <daftykins> tubes and TV? nope
[21:45] <daftykins> 40/5 Mb VDSL2 best offer, TV via freesat/sky if you want it
[21:46] <zmoylan-pi> and the high wind speeds will make ip over avian unreliable, you'll need the heavier hardier sheep version :-)
[21:47] <shauno> 40?!
[21:48] <shauno> do they just sling harddrives in glass bottles or something?
[21:49] <zmoylan-pi> amphibious sheep
[21:49] <zmoylan-pi> called bob
[21:54] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: i really do hope you're writing that RFC in your idle moments ;)
[21:55] <shauno> I'm still proud of EweDP, even if no-one laughed the first time
[21:55] <daftykins> aww i would've laughed had i seen that one
[21:55] <daftykins> how many hard disks do you think we can strap to a sheep o0
[21:56] <daftykins> it's not sneakernet, it's hoofnet
[21:57] <zmoylan-pi> well if we still want them to float we'll have to balence them or use the hard disks as a keel...
[21:58] <zmoylan-pi> self righting sheep...
[21:58] <shauno> hm. but if you float them, you can't dye different sheep as a compression algo
[21:59] <zmoylan-pi> there's an idea, if the packets take forever to transfer you could shave qr codes into their fleece...
[22:00] <zmoylan-pi> or tattoo the 1s and 0s on their skin necessitating having to shear them to read the information. so if the packet is intercepted you'll at least know it was read preventing mitm attacks
[22:03] <shauno> dolly attacks aside
[22:04] <zmoylan-pi> you wouldn't download a sheep....
[22:05] <shauno> diddledan would =x
[22:05] <zmoylan-pi> yeah... wel... diddledan is odd... even for this channel... :-P
[22:14] <daftykins> lol
[22:15] <daftykins> d'aww he's our diddlest dan, you can't take that away from here!
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.262989
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-de
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[07:15] <stevieh> hmm... wo finde ich denn die app-icons meines ambiance themes im unity dashboard, wenn ich da eins verändern will?
[07:25] <stevieh> ich finds nich..
[07:27] <sash_> stevieh: /usr/share/icons/ oder ~/.local/share/icons/ normalerweise.
[07:31] <stevieh> jo, da find ich aber nur Numix-Circle oder Hight-Contrast die den namen "firefox" haben, aber das ist nicht das Bildchen, das ich auf dem Desktop sehe
[07:37] <sash_> Hmm …
[07:37] <sash_> Ist das denn definitiv ein Firefox-Icon, nicht vielleicht ein generisches "Browser"-Icon?
[07:38] <sash_> Oder ist das das Standard-Theme?
[07:39] <stevieh> tja, wenn ich das wüsste ;-)
[07:41] <stevieh> /usr/share/app-install/icons/firefox.png das war das wohl...
[07:42] <sash_> Puh, da soll noch einer durchblicken.
[07:42] <sash_> Aber wenn ich das so lese, müsste das auch noch woanders liegen.
[07:43] <sash_> "The package also contains a copy of each application's icon that is referenced from the .desktop files."
[07:43] <sash_> Also, wenn du in firefox.desktop in diesem app-install/desktop/ reinschaust, müsstest du den eigentlichen Pfad finden, denke ich.
[07:49] <stevieh> sash_: ne, da ist kein pfad gewesen... ich vermute, da gibts nen intergalaktischen icon pfad.
[09:08] <passt__> ich möchte aus dem Firefox heraus ein PDF-Dokument mit dem Ubuntu-eigenen Dokumentenbetrachter evince öffnen. Normalerweise öffnet sich beim Klick auf den PDF-Link der "Öffnen mit"-Dialog, wo man die Auswahl hat auf "Datei speicher" oder "Öffnen mit" Anwendung der Wahl.
[09:08] <passt__> In den meisten Fällen wir bei einer PDF-Datei automatisch und richtig der Dokumentenbetrachter vorgeschlagen.
[09:27] <passt__> Ich verwende aber einen Webclient für mein Emailpostfach, wo stattdessen "gedit" angezeigt wird. Über "Andere..." Anwendung suchen weiß ich nicht wo ich evince den Dokumentenbetrachter finden soll.
[09:31] <stevieh> which evince
[09:31] <stevieh> /usr/bin/evince
[09:32] <passt__> vielen dank, zwei sachen auf einmal gelernt :)
[09:35] <stevieh> de rien
[14:54] <lisx> Hi... ich habe ein problem mit grub...
[14:55] <lisx> ich habe ubuntu auf einem USB-stick installiert
[14:55] <lisx> und auf die festplatte raid5 konfiguriert
[14:56] <lisx> das problem ist aufgetreten als ubuntu ein reboot gemacht hatte
[14:57] <lisx> und zwar... "error attempt to read or write outside of disk hd0... you need to load the kernel first"
[14:57] <lisx> kann mir jemand helfen?
[14:58] <lisx> die fragen sind: Ist dieses problem lösbar ohne ubuntu wieder zu installieren?
[14:59] <lisx> oder wenn nur eine neue installation möglich ist... muss ich raid5 (mdadm) von null neu konfigurieren?
[15:00] <sdx23> lisx: du musst es hauptsächlich richtig installieren. Offenbar war dein Grub auf der Festplatte. War.
[15:01] <lisx> sdx23: ich habe schon versucht GRUB neu zu installieren... mit mount /dev/sde /mnt...
[15:02] <sdx23> mount installiert keinen grub
[15:02] <sdx23> !Grub > lisx
[15:02] <kubine> lisx: Informationen zu GRUB finden sich im Wiki unter http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/GRUB
[15:04] <lisx> sdx23: genau, ich habe eine von dieser methoden benutzt ohne erfolg
[15:05] <sdx23> welche, wie genau und wie äußert sich das?
[15:05] <sdx23> du musst grub auf den usb-stick installieren, den dann aber auch als erstes boot-device im Bios einstellen.
[15:05] <sdx23> davon ab, dass das ganze "Ubuntu auf einen USB-Stick" imo ziemlicher Unfug ist.
[15:07] <lisx> Methode 4 habe ich benutzt... als die System installiert wurde und ein reboot gemacht, war gar keine problem mit grub...
[15:08] <lisx> aber dann war eine update für kernel zur verfügung
[15:09] <lisx> ich habe apt-get dist-upgrade... und dann musste ich eine reboot machen... und erst dann kam das problem
[15:10] <lisx> höffentlich kann man alles verstehen, was ich (zu versuchen) geschrieben habe
[16:45] <Etarius> mal eine frage: was muss ich alles tun unter ubuntu 1404 um krita ohne das ganze KDE zu installieren?
[16:50] <Klawa> wie kann ich den Synergy-Client (z.B. synergyc 192.168.178.10) VOR dem login starten?
[16:52] <Klawa> Ein Eintrag in rc.local (/usr/bin/synergyc 192.168.178.10) funktioniert nicht.
[16:54] <nagetier> Klawa, schau mal hier, muss da selber auch immer nachlesen.. aber dort findet sich sehr wahrscheinlich etwas - http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/autostart
[16:54] <kubine> nagetier: Title: Autostart › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[16:55] <Klawa> danke
[16:55] <nagetier> nicht dafür
[17:04] <foofoobar> Hi. Versuche redis-server zu installieren, doch das Paket nicht vom server geladen werden (obwohl gefunden), woran kann das liegen? http://hastebin.com/firoxufako.avrasm
[17:04] <kubine> foofoobar: Title: hastebin (at hastebin.com)
[17:06] <stevieh> foofoobar: dass du 13.10 verwendest und das nicht mehr supportet ist?
[17:06] <foofoobar> stevieh: Also geht nur per upgrade?
[17:07] <stevieh> ja
[17:09] <foofoobar> ok, danke
[17:09] <stevieh> bitte.
[17:14] <Klawa> nagetier, leider geht es mit autostart nicht. synergy-client muss VOR dem login laufen!
[17:15] <stevieh> Klawa: für sowas könnte man entweder einen eigenen Services starter schreiben oder sich die rc.local zur Brust nehmen.
[17:19] <nagetier> da würde ich dann auch mal bei systemd gucken
[17:21] <nagetier> zB so - https://wiki.archlinux.de/title/Systemd/Eigener_Service
[17:21] <kubine> nagetier: Title: Systemd/Eigener Service – wiki.archlinux.de (at wiki.archlinux.de)
[17:21] <Klawa> ok
Ein Eintrag in rc.local (/usr/bin/synergyc 192.168.178.10) funktioniert nicht.
[17:45] <sillyslux> an der lösung bin auch interessiert
[17:48] <koegs> kann man iirc auch mit lightdm starten
[17:48] <stevieh> http://synergy-project.org/wiki/Startup
[17:48] <kubine> stevieh: Title: Startup - Synergy Wiki (at synergy-project.org)
[17:49] <stevieh> kann man analog machen, oder digital.
[17:50] <sillyslux> stehvieh: project wiki.. good point..
[18:00] <vertreter> nabend
[18:00] <vertreter> ich verzweifle gerade an htaccess
[18:01] <vertreter> ich habe 2 domains a und b, die auf denselben webspace zeigen (kein zugriff auf httpdocroot)
[18:01] <vertreter> wie kann ich eine domainweiche bauen, die auf unterschiedliche verzeichnisse leitet?
[18:02] <vertreter> undzwar so, dass es wirklich aussishet, als wenn es "echt" unterschiedliche seiten wäen
[18:06] <sillyslux> wie?!
[18:06] <sillyslux> ist das eine php seite?
[18:07] <sillyslux> das ist irgendwo online?
[18:08] <sillyslux> du hast ein webroot für 2 domains
[18:08] <vertreter> mit php hat das nix zu tun
[18:08] <sillyslux> und willst die jeweils auf 2 unterverzeichnisse umleiten?
[18:08] <vertreter> a.de und b.de zeigt die gleiche seite
[18:09] <vertreter> ich möchte aber dass, wenn man a.de eingibt /a.de/ aufgerufen wird
[18:09] <vertreter> b.de entsprechend /b.de/
[18:09] <vertreter> also das verzeichnis
[18:09] <vertreter> in der url-leiste soll aber die die domain stehen und nicht das unterverzeichnis
[18:10] <vertreter> mod rewrite
[18:10] <sillyslux> hm ja
[18:10] <vertreter> der nutzer soll also nicht merken, dass es der gleich webspace ist
[18:14] <sillyslux> ne bin leider kein apache rewrite profi :(
[18:15] <vertreter> schade
[18:18] <Etarius> hat niemand einen plan was man machen muss um krita ohne das komplette kde zu installieren?
[18:38] <gebjgd> Etarius, libreoffice verwenden
[18:44] <Etarius> das ist keine lösung …
[18:56] <Rochvellon> eine lösung wäre, das programm selber zu kompilieren inkl. der jew. abhängigkeiten. bei irc-client quassel wird sowas gemacht. einmal die normale version, die kde-komponenten vorraussetzt und eine 2. version, die alle benötigten abhängigkeiten mitbringt, ohne selbst kde installieren zu müssen
[18:57] <Etarius> Rochvellon, jep … dachte ich mir schon … bin grade den quellcode am ziehen
[18:58] <Approach> Hat jemand eine idee warum postfix rumzickt, kann keine mail versenden zu gmx, googlemail funktioniert allerdings
[18:58] <Approach> Bekomme folgende meldung im log:
[18:58] <Approach> 12105 Jun 11 20:56:01 mail postfix/smtp[28883]: D44C871F176: to=<[email protected]>, relay=mx01.emig.gmx.net[212.227.17.5]:25, delay=0.51, delays=0.01/0.02/0.12/0.36, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host mx01.emig.gmx.net[212.227.17.5] said: 550-Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable 550 invalid DNS MX or A/AAAA resource record (in reply to MAIL FROM command))
[19:00] <Rochvellon> würd mal sagen, da tritt ein problem bei gmx auf. invalid DNS MX or A/AAAA resource record (in reply to MAIL FROM command))
[19:01] <Klawa> Nochmal synergy-client wo finde ich die Konfigurationsdateien von lightdm - in Beschreibungen ist immer gdm oder kdm aufgeführt (z.B. http://synergy-project.org/wiki/Startup)
[19:01] <kubine> Klawa: Title: Startup - Synergy Wiki (at synergy-project.org)
[19:03] <Approach> Rochvellon: Hatte vor 1Woche probleme mit ssl zertifikate. Die waren abgelaufen. Habe nun es ersetzt und merke das es immer noch nicht funktioniert :(
[19:05] <Rochvellon> Approach: der fehler deutet darauf hin, dass der DNS-Record nicht richtig gesetzt ist
[19:18] <Approach> Rochvellon: verstehe nicht was man beim DNS eintrag falsch machen kann. MX eintrag lautet wie folgt: mail.example.com
[19:18] <Approach> allerdings habe ich noch cname mit: mail.example.com
[19:19] <Approach> wenn ich "host example.com" eingebe steht auch die mx adresse
[19:21] <Rochvellon> nicht mail.gmx.de?
[19:21] <Rochvellon> oder welche sie gerade haben?
[19:22] <Approach> also dann steht dort mail.example.com
[19:22] <Approach> example.com mail is handled by 10 mail.example.com.
[19:24] <Rochvellon> und mail.example.com kann nicht aufgelöst werden, weil es dafür keinen dns-eintrag gibt, der nach gmx weiterleitet
[19:25] <Rochvellon> hier findest du die domains, die gmx nutzt: https://hilfe.gmx.net/sicherheit/ssl.html
[19:25] <kubine> Rochvellon: Title: Sicherheit - SSL im Mailprogramm (at hilfe.gmx.net)
[19:31] <Approach> Rochvellon: DNS Settings http://pastebin.com/JJxaVSfC
[19:31] <kubine> Approach: Title: foo - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
[19:32] <Approach> Irgendwie gefällt mir der A Record nicht? KA ob es in Ordnung ist
[19:52] <dreamon> Wie findet man die verwendete Gateway IP heraus?
[19:55] <jokrebel> ifconfig?
[20:03] <dreamon> jokrebel, da steht nur die IP, Mask und Bmask
[20:03] <dreamon> ähm Bcast :)
[20:03] <_moep_> bust dz schon verbunden?
[20:03] <dreamon> ja per dhcp
[20:04] <_moep_> ifconfig eth0
[20:05] <dreamon> in meinem Fall ifconfig wlan0 .. aber da steht kein gateway und auch kein dns server.. ipconfig unter Windows würde es anzeigen
[20:05] <WildMinion> Wie kann ich in Ubuntu meine Netzwerkschnittstelle (LAN-Stecker) auf 100 MBit/s festlegen? Standardmäßig ist lauf ethtool 1000 MBit/s gesetzt.
[20:06] <jokrebel> dreamon: route .n
[20:06] <jokrebel> dreamon: route -n
[20:06] <WildMinion> dreamon: oder 'ip a'
[20:08] <dreamon> jokrebel, Danke!
[20:26] <jokrebel> ich hab mit Multiboot Ubuntu installiert und einen "persistant Mode" darin aktiviert. So wie es aussieht, werden dort auch die Konfigurationen gespeichert. Was nur etwas nervt, ist dass beim booten immer noch die Abfrage "Installieren / Ausprobieren" erfolgt. Wie bekomm ich die weg?
[20:27] <nagetier> jokrebel, du meinst in grub?
[20:27] <ppq> das ist isolinux
[20:27] <nagetier> muss ja
[20:27] <nagetier> ahso, ok
[20:28] <nagetier> dann dort das Menue anpassen
[20:28] <nagetier> wenn möglich, weiß es nicht genau.. aber sollte eigentlich
[20:38] <jokrebel> nene - ich wähl in dem Multiboot-Grub den Persistant-Mode der Ubuntu (Live) Installations aus. Dort hätt ich aber gerne, dass ich nicht gefragt werde, ob ich Ubuntu ausprobieren oder installieren will.
[20:41] <jokrebel> Das möcht ich höchstens in der Orginal_live. Er soll einfach in den "Ausprobier-Modus" booten (von dort aus könnte ich wenn ich will ja immer noch installieren)
[22:24] <maredebianum> Hallo, mir hat es die Darstellung etwas zerlegt, aktuell werden Fonts teilweise gar nicht angezeigt und sonstige Fensterinhalte teilweise doppelt (refresh-Problem, window resize fixt es). LTS hier auf Thinkpad, hat jemand eine Idee? Es tritt seit I/O errors auf SSD auf, also evtl. irgend eine config con gnome o.ä. kaputt?
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-uy
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[01:37] <walter_orsi> buenas noches...!
[01:37] <walter_orsi> q se cuenta?
[09:10] <ubuntero> Hola
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.279382
| 2015-06-11T00:00:00 |
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"ubuntero",
"walter_orsi"
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2015-06-11-#juju-gui
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[17:05] <marcoceppi> hey guys, this is really cool btw: http://i.imgur.com/4Rz6OU6.png
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.280850
| 2015-06-11T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"marcoceppi"
],
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2015-06-11-#cloud-init
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[07:08] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Do we have a good way of specifying apt mirrors for different distros via vendor-data?
[08:26] <Odd_Bloke> harlowja: Tut, tut, only 25% coverage of url_helper.py.
[08:36] <Odd_Bloke> Oh, no, tox wasn't recreating a virtualenv to include new test deps.
[08:36] <Odd_Bloke> harlowja: Tut, tut, only 81% coverage of url_helper.py. ^_^
[09:07] <Odd_Bloke> Oh, hmph, the Windows changes have completely broken the coverage reporting.
[09:07] <Odd_Bloke> To ensure that we're getting accurate numbers (including modules not touched by tests), nose imports all the modules.
[09:07] <Odd_Bloke> As you might imagine, this goes poorly.
[09:23] <openstackgerrit> Daniel Watkins proposed stackforge/cloud-init: Don't use --cover-inclusive; Windows modules break it. https://review.openstack.org/190557
[09:24] <Odd_Bloke> harlowja: claudiupopa: ^ fixes the coverage breakage.
[09:24] <Odd_Bloke> I'm looking at a fix in nose, which will allow us to reintroduce it.
[09:24] <Odd_Bloke> But, for now, there's no way around it.
[10:24] <Odd_Bloke> https://github.com/nose-devs/nose/pull/924 is the nose fix.
[15:06] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, i'd have to look.
[15:06] <smoser> not really here today, just came in for a call.
[15:07] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: No worries; enjoy your absence. :)
[15:12] <a-tal> hey, does anyone know how I can configure cloud-init to use a metadata version endpoint that's not 2009-04-04 ?
[15:14] <Odd_Bloke> a-tal: Which data source are you using?
[15:14] <a-tal> ec2
[15:16] <Odd_Bloke> a-tal: I don't think you can.
[15:16] <Odd_Bloke> a-tal: But even if you could, cloud-init wouldn't know what to do with anything more recent than that without code changes.
[15:16] <Odd_Bloke> a-tal: Is there something specific that you need?
[15:17] <a-tal> so, it's not the real ec2, but it does respond to http://169.254.169.254/latest/meta-data/instance-id and the other endpoints using latest. you can configure the datasource metadata_urls; but that's the path/version seems to be hardcoded?
[15:18] <a-tal> s/that's//
[15:18] <Odd_Bloke> a-tal: Yeah, we hard-code the version because we know we'll work against that version.
[15:19] <Odd_Bloke> a-tal: EC2 could completely change where everything is located in 2015-06-11, but we'd still be fine because we're pinned at that version.
[15:19] <Odd_Bloke> (Where 'that version' is 2009-04-04')
[15:20] <a-tal> makes sense
[15:22] <Odd_Bloke> So your fake EC2 will have to provide those URLs and, crucially, actually do what the API should do in that version.
[15:23] <Odd_Bloke> I would imagine that's not much of a problem (though I haven't looked at it at all), I suspect the parts of the API that cloud-init exercises aren't changed a great deal.
[15:23] <a-tal> yeah. i think i'll have to try to get a rewrite rule added
[15:23] <a-tal> hopefully nothing explodes :)
[15:24] <Odd_Bloke> :)
[16:10] <ByPasS> Odd_Bloke : hi again :)
[16:11] <Odd_Bloke> ByPasS: Hola!
[16:11] <ByPasS> Odd_Bloke : I realized that I had libvirt injection set to true which well from what Ive read is not needed and should be set to false for cloud-init admin password injection
[16:15] <ByPasS> Odd_Bloke : back to square one :)
[16:16] <ByPasS> Odd_Bloke : so I disabled libvirt password and key injection (keys are injected according to the log)
[16:16] <ByPasS> Odd_Bloke : which metadata url exactly you wanted me to paste ?
[16:21] <Odd_Bloke> ByPasS: So how are you expecting the password to be set at the moment?
[16:22] <ByPasS> Odd_Bloke : via cloud-init + nova metadata
[16:22] <ByPasS> Odd_Bloke : leet me try something I found a probable cause brb
[16:23] <Odd_Bloke> Sure. :)
[16:53] <frickler> how are chances to get manage_resolv_conf working on Ubuntu? we have a case where we want to override nameservers for a specific subset of instances only
[16:53] <frickler> see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1394224 and https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+question/234041
[16:55] * frickler waves to smoser a bit ashamed about not having responded yet regarding cirros :D
[18:41] <harlowja> Odd_Bloke only 81% i want 181%
[18:41] <harlowja> lol
[18:41] <harlowja> harder faster, stronger, lol
[18:41] <harlowja> or else fired
[18:41] <harlowja> ha
[19:03] <openstackgerrit> Merged stackforge/cloud-init: Don't use --cover-inclusive; Windows modules break it. https://review.openstack.org/190557
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.286625
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"ByPasS",
"Odd_Bloke",
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"harlowja",
"openstackgerrit",
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"channel": "#cloud-init"
}
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-nz
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[20:01] <ibeardslee> morning
[20:27] <atamira> morning
[23:55] <olly> morning
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.287378
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"atamira",
"ibeardslee",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-nz"
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-meeting
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[15:00] <infinity> o/
[15:00] <barry> \o
[15:01] <pitti> o/
[15:01] <caribou> o/
[15:01] * stgraber waves
[15:01] * slangasek waves
[15:01] <jodh> \o
[15:01] <sil2100> o/
[15:01] <robru> ahoihoi
[15:01] <slangasek> #startmeeting
[15:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jun 11 15:01:59 2015 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[15:01] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[15:02] * sil2100 still prepares his notes
[15:02] * jodh feels the irony of mumble choosing to play up today of all days.
[15:02] <pitti> I greeted in mumble, but I've never heard anyone else speak
[15:02] <pitti> admittedly I just dusted it off after not using it for a year or more
[15:03] <slangasek> welcome, pitti :)
[15:03] * pitti waves to his new team mates
[15:03] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round
[15:03] * slangasek fixes up his shuf command
[15:03] <doko> hopefully pitti remembers short status updates, and doesn't compete with jodh ;p
[15:04] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti)
[15:04] <slangasek> doko barry stgraber pitti cyphermox infinity sil2100 caribou jodh bdmurray slangasek robru
[15:04] <pitti> TBH I haven't prepared anything, I don't know yet how your meeting looks like
[15:04] <slangasek> doko: you can show him how it's done
[15:04] <sil2100> Phew, still some time...
[15:05] <slangasek> pitti: summarize the past week's work (and upcoming week's plans) in the channel; ask questions about others' activity as appropriate; then any other discussion topics
[15:05] <doko> - verified SRU's for trusty, gcc-4.8 and binutils
[15:05] <doko> - investigate ARM gcc ICE
[15:05] <doko> - looking at binutils issue building the kernel on ppc64el
[15:05] <doko> - look into building GCC binaries and libraries with -z relro
[15:05] <doko> - fix cantor build failures, autopkg test fixes
[15:06] <doko> - installing a new toy, which arrived today (tp x250, 16gb ram, two ssd's)
[15:06] <doko> (done)
[15:06] <infinity> Yay, toys.
[15:06] <barry> debuntu: boatloads of uploads: nose2_0.5.0-2, flufl.bounce_2.3-2, flufl.lock_2.3.1-2, lazr.config_2.1-1 (and debian bug #786516), python-daemon_2.0.5-1 (review & sponsored), zope.schema_4.4.2-2, cov-core_1.15.0-1, python-iso8601_0.1.10-2, lazr.delegates_2.0.2-1, lazr.smtptest_2.0.3-1, pytest-instafail_0.3.0-1, zope.contenttype_4.1.0-1, zope.browser_2.1.0-1, zope.exceptions_4.0.7-2, zope.component_4.2.2-1, zope.event_4.0.3-3,
[15:06] <barry> zope.testing_4.2.0-1, zope.hookable_4.0.4-4, zope.deprecation_4.1.2-1, zope.configuration_4.0.3-3, zope.location_4.0.3-2, zope.i18nmessageid_4.0.3-2, debian bug #776026 (reproducible wheel files; mp upstream, needs refinement), debian bug #788383 (better devendorization for requests - tested upstream patch in debian package), singledispatch_3.4.0.3-2, gtimelog_0.9.2-1, LP: #1324391. also, dist-upgrade bisected wily regression and
[15:06] <barry> reported LP: #1462398
[15:06] <barry> si: LP: #1463061. also reviewed and landed s-i server branch for sil2100 (LP: #1459371). general s-i server work and start of documentation.
[15:07] <barry> other: python issue #24351 (string.Template)
[15:07] <barry> upcoming: among other things, i'll be starting to work on the python3.5 transition plan
[15:07] <barry> --done--
[15:07] <stgraber> - Was out Friday and Wednesday, will be out tomorrow too. Back to normal on Monday.
[15:07] <stgraber> - LXC/LXD
[15:07] <stgraber> - Released LXD 0.11 on Tuesday, uploaded to archive, PPAs, ...
[15:07] <stgraber> - Tracking down what looks like a regression in Go 1.4 (breaks LXD over unix socket)
[15:07] <stgraber> - Code reviews, bug triaging, other admin paperwork
[15:07] <stgraber> (done)
[15:08] <pitti> (just scribbled together in a hurry, not that much detail)
[15:08] <pitti> DONE: land systemd 220, fix umockdev and python-dbusmock to work with it, fix some fallout bugs and reverse test regressions
[15:08] <pitti> DONE: new psql microreleases for all supported releases
[15:08] <pitti> DONE: boot related bug triage/fixes
[15:08] <pitti> DONE: research/refine proposal for persistant network interface names, send to (u|d)-devel
[15:08] <pitti> PLAN: want to land ^ (ifnames) next week
[15:08] <pitti> PLAN: start integration of ifup.d scripts into networkd (core-1505-networkd-vs-ifupdown)
[15:08] <pitti> [done]
[15:08] <slangasek> cyphermox is off this week
[15:08] <slangasek> infinity:
[15:09] <infinity> - Kernel SRU wrangling
[15:09] <infinity> - General SRU/AA stuff
[15:09] <infinity> - Reviewed and accepted the X HWE stack
[15:09] <infinity> - Started looking into 14.04->14.04 upgrade bug (LP: #1452238)
[15:09] <infinity> - Looking at weird tzdata/tzcode bug with Marc (LP: #1462052)
[15:09] <infinity> (done)
[15:09] <sil2100> uh, me I guess?
[15:09] <sil2100> - Shorter week due to holidays on Tue/Fri
[15:09] <sil2100> - Landing team work, silo coordination, preparing landing e-mails
[15:09] <sil2100> - Short Patch Pilot session:
[15:09] <sil2100> * libg15, uploading new version with a patch for suspend/resume
[15:09] <sil2100> * Looking into the udisks2 SRU request - confusing
[15:09] <sil2100> * libusb - reviewing a patch, preparing for upload (waiting for a test case)
[15:09] <sil2100> - RTM status meetings and discussions
[15:09] <sil2100> - Quickfix - preparing the snapshot PPA for OTA-4 due to missing auto-PPA-snapshotting
[15:09] <sil2100> - Quickfix - helping out with langpack manual updates
[15:09] <sil2100> - Preparing an OTA-4 exclusive image in 14.09-factory-proposed (with issues)
[15:10] <sil2100> - CI Train fix for no syncs for non-train packages
[15:10] <sil2100> - A quick style-fix for S-I server branch for delta generation
[15:10] <sil2100> - Work on re-writing commitlog code to work with new channels
[15:10] <sil2100> * Re-writing everything, making it better and independent of any external scripts
[15:10] <sil2100> - Documentation changes and updates
[15:10] <sil2100> - Starting the discussion related to overlay vs. derived-distro once again
[15:10] <sil2100> - Helping out upstreams with packaging issues and FTBFS
[15:10] <sil2100> (done)
[15:10] <caribou> Bugfix:
[15:10] <caribou> - Ceph interference during kdump-tools execution (Bug: 1461429)
[15:10] <caribou> * Uploaded upstart job for kdump-tools to Debian/Sid
[15:10] <caribou> * Will SRU to Trusty once in Wily
[15:10] <caribou> - rsyslog merge
[15:10] <caribou> - Identified spotify-client bug on Wily
[15:10] <caribou> (done)
[15:11] <jodh> * snappy - selftests.
[15:11] <jodh> * misc:
[15:11] <jodh> - Out Wednesday PM.
[15:11] <jodh> - My last meeting evar today :(
[15:11] <jodh> ???
[15:11] * pitti hugs jodh
[15:12] <bdmurray> continued to work on improvements to apport-retrace to check launchpad for packages not available in archive or on ddebs.u.c
[15:12] <bdmurray> testing of apport-retrace which uses LP with sample crashes
[15:12] <bdmurray> testing apport-retrace with an overlay-ppa package crash
[15:12] <bdmurray> daisy r646 - Move package origin check into daisy/utils.py and set packages from the ci-train-ppa-service to retraceable.
[15:12] <bdmurray> fixed a daisy crash when writing retrace failure reasons
[15:12] <bdmurray> submitted RT to have staging / production versions of daisy updated
[15:12] <bdmurray> updated fetch-crashes to delete existing crash files before getting new ones to submit
[15:12] <bdmurray> reported apport bug (LP: #1462469) regarding sandboxutil.py exiting 0 instead of 1
[15:12] <bdmurray> reported apport bug LP: #1462491 (stacktrace source often has errors)
[15:12] <bdmurray> sorted out issues with my canonistack setup (downed hosts)
[15:12] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[15:12] <infinity> jodh: I like your optimism, but I suspect you have many meetings in your future, just not with us. :P
[15:13] <slangasek> infinity: bug #1452238 - are you on top of this, then? jdstrand escalated it to me this morning, should I assign to you?
[15:13] <slangasek> sil2100: has the delta generation branch landed on nusakan?
[15:14] <sil2100> slangasek: not sure, it got merged I think but not sure if anyone bzr pulled it in yet
[15:14] <infinity> slangasek: Yeah, assign it to me, I'll spend some time today experimenting.
[15:14] <slangasek> sil2100: ok; can you remind me the bug number?
[15:14] <slangasek> infinity: ok, thanks
[15:14] <barry> it did get merged
[15:14] <barry> sil2100, slangasek trunk should have the fix now
[15:15] * barry does not have access to nusakan
[15:15] <sil2100> slangasek: LP: #1459371
[15:15] <sil2100> I can bzr pull it
[15:15] <sil2100> The importer is off so it should be safe
[15:16] <slangasek> * various system-image server management tasks; first ubuntu-personal channel is now being set up
[15:16] <slangasek> * planning team conference attendance for the summer
[15:16] <slangasek> * discussions around juju go requirements
[15:16] <slangasek> * discussions about python3.5 as default for 15.10
[15:16] <slangasek> * uploads of some python3 transitions that were fix-committed (update-notifier, xdiagnose, gconf)
[15:16] <slangasek> * new version of SecureBoot shim signed and uploaded to wily; will be SRUed back to all releases once it's gotten some burn-in testing
[15:16] <slangasek> * various bits of work related to team changes
[15:16] <slangasek> (done)
[15:16] <barry> sil2100: once you pull it, can you close the Canonical System Image bug task and fix release the Ubuntu system image one?
[15:16] <robru> * CI Train Mojo Spec:
[15:16] <robru> - defined new postgres instance for bileto
[15:16] <robru> - various iterations integrating postgres into train spec.
[15:16] <robru> * Bileto:
[15:16] <robru> - added postgres support, several iterations thereof
[15:16] <robru> - added API token support so jenkins can push status updates in
[15:16] <robru> * Bileto charm:
[15:16] <robru> - generate API token at deploy time
[15:16] <robru> - change bileto from running as root to running as www-data
[15:16] <slangasek> sil2100: well the importer needs to not be off for very long, so I'm not sure that matters to safety ;)
[15:16] <robru> - Implement db-relation-changed hook so bileto can connect to postgres, and several iterations to get that working
[15:16] <robru> * CI Train:
[15:16] <robru> - coordinated with #webops on emergency production redeployment in ps4.5, verified various deployment details before approving DNS cutover; identified various firewall issues and reported them to #webops for fixing.
[15:16] <robru> - fixed charm to correctly report rsyncd port opening so #webops won't need to cowboy the firewall in the future.
[15:16] <robru> * systemd-shim:
[15:17] <slangasek> sil2100: did you pull it just now? the branch is currently up to date
[15:17] <sil2100> slangasek: yes
[15:17] <sil2100> slangasek: I didn't enable the importer yet as I asked a question on -ci-eng ;)
[15:18] <pitti> robru: oh, are you now working on systemd-shim?
[15:18] <sil2100> e.g. if I enable the importer now and make the channel automatic, it will probably pull in the snapshot rootfs, right?
[15:18] <robru> pitti: no, it was just a one-off thing.
[15:18] <slangasek> sil2100: let's leave it disabled for now until we can discuss it after the meeting
[15:19] <sil2100> ACK
[15:19] <pitti> robru: (you might have missed to c&p a line or two); thanks, I was just curious
[15:19] <slangasek> robru: was '* systemd-shim:' the end?
[15:19] <robru> slangasek: no I pasted more than that, I don't know why it didn't come through, hang on
[15:19] <robru> 08:16:37 <robru> * systemd-shim:
[15:19] <robru> 08:16:37 <robru> - fixed version conflict between vivid stable-phone-overlay and wily archive due to buggy train sync
[15:19] <robru> 08:16:37 <robru> (done)
[15:20] <robru> pitti: the systemd-shim thing was just me cleaning up a broken version number caused by the train
[15:21] <slangasek> ok
[15:21] <bdmurray> robru: was a search done for other issues like that?
[15:22] <robru> bdmurray: not by me. presumably slangasek did since he found this issue in the first place
[15:22] <slangasek> robru: no, I found it because bdmurray told me about it ;)
[15:22] <bdmurray> lol
[15:22] <robru> awesome
[15:23] <slangasek> a search, by someone who can manipulate the launchpad api better than me, would be: look at all packages in the stable-phone-overlay ppa; find packages of the same name and version in the main archive; check if they're the same
[15:25] <slangasek> robru: do you want to take a shot at doing that search?
[15:26] <slangasek> (after the train has been fixed to disable any further broken syncs)
[15:26] <sil2100> The fix is approved
[15:26] <robru> slangasek: I guess I could poke at that
[15:26] <robru> slangasek: yeah sil2100's fix is good
[15:26] <slangasek> robru: thanks
[15:26] <slangasek> any other questions re: status this week?
[15:27] <sil2100> I still want to give it a spin in the staging maybe, and maybe some small style changes as per robru's comments (didn't have time for those yet)
[15:28] <robru> sil2100: I don't think it really needs staging, your test coverage was so thorough I'm quite confident in it
[15:28] <robru> also it's a simple change
[15:28] <sil2100> Yeah, ok, then maybe just those small changes, I'll be done in a minute, just need to finish up all the other strange things
[15:29] <slangasek> [TOPIC] conferences
[15:30] <slangasek> as I mentioned, I'm in the process of sorting out conference travel for the next few months
[15:30] <slangasek> if you're expecting to attend a conference this summer and I haven't already talked to you about it, you might want to ping me to make sure it's on my radar
[15:30] <pitti> slangasek: FTR, I told msm that I don't go to plumber's (i. e. cancel/transfer my registration), and attend debconf instead (already self-registered)
[15:31] <slangasek> pitti: ok - I'll double-check that this is reflected in the SpreadSheetsOfTravel
[15:31] <slangasek> [TOPIC] team changes
[15:31] <pitti> slangasek: I updated the debconf spreadsheet, I didn't see the plumbers one
[15:32] <slangasek> you may have noticed a few changes in the meeting attendance (current and impending)
[15:32] <infinity> slangasek: It was suggested by the powers that be in glibc that I should be at GNU Tools Cauldron, but no idea if it's full already.
[15:33] <slangasek> we bid a fond farewell to jodh today
[15:33] <slangasek> we wish him well in his next endeavors
[15:33] <barry> jodh: good luck and keep in touch!
[15:33] <slangasek> there will be a brief reception in the lobby outside the IRC channel after this meeting
[15:34] <slangasek> cookies and punch etc
[15:34] * pitti orders a virtual beer for jodh and everyone else
[15:34] <slangasek> also, you may have noticed that mvo is changing roles within Canonical
[15:34] <infinity> pitti's buying for everyone? I like this guy.
[15:34] <doko> virtually ...
[15:34] <infinity> doko: Shh, don't ruin the fantasy. In my mind, I'm already drunk.
[15:35] <jodh> slangasek: thanks steve! I've enjoyed my time in the team enormously, and will truly miss infinity's jokes :)
[15:35] <slangasek> with the recent reorg, there's now a Snappy team being stood up formally, and mvo has a role to play on that team
[15:35] <barry> infinity: that explains a lot
[15:35] <slangasek> jodh: he tells jokes!?
[15:35] <jodh> slangasek: buy him a beer and he does anything... I heard...
[15:35] <infinity> jodh: Just remember: never try on pants when doko's in the same city.
[15:35] <ogra_> *anything* !
[15:36] <doko> ogra hears beer and wakes up ...
[15:36] <ogra_> +1
[15:36] <ogra_> i highlight on "beer" (and double highlight on "free beer" )
[15:36] <slangasek> so unfortunately this means mvo will not be with us in Foundations anymore, since being the Snappy team tech lead is a full-time gig - this is basically formalization of the role he's already been playing on the Snappy side for the past few months
[15:36] <jodh> infinity: I will pass on this good advice down the generations.
[15:36] <infinity> jodh: Good man.
[15:36] <slangasek> on the other hand, we have a pitti!
[15:37] <doko> ohh, does pitti join MIR again then? ;-P
[15:37] <infinity> Yeah, and pitti showed up to the meeting. mvo didn't even come to let us say goodbye. Boo.
[15:37] <slangasek> the https://launchpad.net/~we-love-pitti and https://launchpad.net/~canonical-foundations will be officially merged, more details to follow
[15:37] <slangasek> oh wait, that part may not be exactly true
[15:37] <pitti> I tried to forget about w-l-p..
[15:37] <stgraber> :)
[15:38] <slangasek> what's with the team icon? I don't remember that picture being there :)
[15:38] <infinity> pitti: They have meetings every fortnight, with candles and chanting.
[15:38] <barry> https://youtu.be/FsTalWYX0t8?t=38s
[15:38] * jodh hands the flaming unicode batton to pitti and hopes he'll keep the tradition alive!
[15:38] <doko> ugh, does everybody have to have groopies to work in foundations?
[15:38] <pitti> slangasek: ah, I think that was from the party night in Kopenhagen, no?
[15:38] <infinity> doko: Clearly not, since you work here.
[15:39] <slangasek> pitti: it looks like it - I just don't remember that picture being on there and it's too small to get a good look :)
[15:39] <pitti> jodh: you still need to reveal that secret to me, barry was already pointing that out!
[15:39] <slangasek> anyway
[15:39] <slangasek> lots of changes to the team, all at a sudden!
[15:39] <sil2100> Oh, I wasn't aware of the we-love-pitti team!
[15:40] * sil2100 needs to subscribe
[15:40] * jodh grabs a fresh batch of rubber chickens and sharpens his leatherman in preparation...
[15:40] <slangasek> if anyone has questions about these changes, "my door is open"
[15:40] <robru> sil2100: I've been in that one for a while, lol
[15:40] <pitti> jodh: I'll get the hemp and cauldron
[15:40] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
[15:41] <slangasek> not your usual quiet Foundations meeting today ;)
[15:41] <sil2100> Indeed ;)
[15:41] <slangasek> but is there anything else anyone wants to cover?
[15:42] <slangasek> going...
[15:42] <slangasek> going...
[15:42] <slangasek> #endmeeting
[15:42] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Jun 11 15:42:20 2015 UTC.
[15:42] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-06-11-15.01.moin.txt
[15:42] <slangasek> gnoe
[15:42] <slangasek> eh
[15:42] <slangasek> gone
[15:42] <barry> thanks!
[15:42] <slangasek> thanks, all :)
[15:42] <pitti> thanks everyone!
[15:42] <caribou> thanks!
[15:42] <sil2100> o/
[15:42] <pitti> vbeer waiting!
[15:43] <jodh> thanks all!!!!!!!
[15:43] <stgraber> thanks!
[20:49] <fernando28> hola
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[04:30] <idhaoui> .away
[12:57] <elacheche> lunapersa, :)
[12:57] <lunapersa> oui
[12:57] <elacheche> Bonjour :p
[12:58] <lunapersa> re-bonjour
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[01:08] <darthanubis> 3.16 from staging not bad
[06:59] <darthanubis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1432068
[14:46] <lindol> hi all
[15:06] <Rodrigo5244> hey
[15:08] <lindol> Rodrigo5244, long time no see
[15:09] <lindol> hi :)
[15:09] <Rodrigo5244> yep
[15:09] <lindol> haha :)
[15:09] <lindol> I worked very hard on these days :-/
[15:09] <lindol> haha how about you? :)
[15:10] <Rodrigo5244> Not much work done this week.
[15:10] <Rodrigo5244> I am still learning JavaScript. I am going to set up a website and github to get hired later.
[15:12] <Rodrigo5244> Where you doing extra hours or something?
[15:16] <lindol> extra hours?
[15:16] <lindol> what is means?
[15:16] <lindol> you means "what do i doing something in my free time?"
[15:21] <lindol> in my free time after working,
[15:22] <lindol> I think, I translated some wiki page, and study englinsh, and ..
[15:22] <lindol> haha i don't know :)
[15:23] <lindol> so, time to sleep :) korea is 00:23 am :)
[15:23] <lindol> see u again :) bye, have a good night :)
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-x
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[07:18] <alkisg> tseliot: hi, thanks, I did file an SRU for that issue and I've assigned it to you, is a debdiff branch necessary? LP #1463663
[07:19] <tseliot> alkisg: not really, the git commit is enough. I'll take care of the rest. Thanks
[07:20] <alkisg> Thank you :)
[08:11] <tseliot> alkisg: I've just uploaded the package and subscribed the SRU team. It's up to them now
[08:11] <alkisg> I'll provide whatever feedback's necessary for the SRU verification. On behalf of LTSP users, thanks again! :)
[08:14] <tseliot> np
[18:15] <samuraicat> Xsane was scanning fine but all of a suddens started getting "Error during save: Broken Pipe".
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-server
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[04:14] <Zarathuztra|2> anyone around that can help out?
[04:44] <sarnold> with what?
[08:09] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:04] <friendlyguy> good morning ;)
[09:08] <diytto> hi, i have my server set to only accept pubkey ssh connections, but my server seems to not be accpeting those connections for my user
[09:08] <diytto> i haven't changed anything with ssh configs, and i can still login as another user
[09:09] <diytto> however, this other user does not have sudo rights
[09:09] <diytto> any suggestions?
[09:09] <diytto> i am still open on an sftp connection with the server on the account i am lockedout of
[09:10] <friendlyguy> diytto: did you add your pubkey to authorized_keys?
[09:10] <diytto> yeah, i have had it in there since the beginning
[09:10] <diytto> i have always been able to log in with it
[09:11] <diytto> i haven't changed it in any way, yet am unable to log in
[09:11] <friendlyguy> kk, and you were able to connect with ssh via pubkey before? Or did you enter a password upon login?
[09:11] <diytto> i used pubkey previously
[09:11] <diytto> i have password disabled
[09:11] <friendlyguy> k
[09:11] <friendlyguy> did you change anything at all?
[09:11] <diytto> no
[09:12] <diytto> only thing i have done is copy the authorized keys to another user on the server
[09:12] <friendlyguy> have you tried to login to another host with this keypair? maybe something is broken
[09:12] <OpenTokix> diytto: what does ssh -vvvvv say?
[09:12] <diytto> i don't know how that would make a difference
[09:12] <diytto> same key works on another user
[09:13] <diytto> OpenTokix: i am getting nothing with that
[09:14] <diytto> it just tells me correct usage of ssh
[09:14] <friendlyguy> i think he ment to add verboooooose output to your connection
[09:14] <diytto> the exact same authorized keys works on a seperate account
[09:14] <diytto> ah okay hold on
[09:16] <friendlyguy> maybe you could also check your file permissions in ~/.ssh... should be 700 over the place
[09:16] <diytto> is there a paste tool you would prefer i use?
[09:17] <friendlyguy> i don't care, but maybe there are some "rules" in here for which pastebin to use
[09:17] <friendlyguy> ...f you want to show large texts, such as errors, use the pastebin and post the URL to the paste instead.... http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[09:17] <friendlyguy> from: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines?action=show&redirect=IrcGuidelines
[09:17] <diytto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11695170/
[09:18] <friendlyguy> did you checkt the permissions?
[09:19] <diytto> how do i check specific permissions
[09:19] <friendlyguy> ls -la ~/.ssh
[09:19] <OpenTokix> .ssh should be 700 and files in .ssh 600
[09:19] <OpenTokix> btw.
[09:19] <OpenTokix> and owned by your user and your personal group
[09:20] <diytto> everything looks fine
[09:20] <diytto> on my end
[09:21] <friendlyguy> this last "Permission denied (publickey)."...
[09:22] <diytto> server is fine with permissions too
[09:23] <diytto> i am able to edit my authorized_hosts
[09:23] <diytto> i have an sftp connection that was open previously before this issue
[09:24] <diytto> no cli access
[09:28] <friendlyguy> could you try to use the -i (together with -vvv) option of ssh, to point directly to the right keyfile?
[09:28] <davegarath> diytto: the file name for the public keys is authorized_keys, not authorized_hosts
[09:30] <diytto> davegarath: i am using the authorized_keys file, i am tired atm
[09:30] <diytto> friendlyguy: let me try
[09:32] <diytto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11695216/
[09:36] <friendlyguy> r u using selinux?
[09:36] <diytto> no
[09:36] <friendlyguy> maybe you messed that up
[09:36] <diytto> i am on OS X, server is ubuntu
[09:36] <OpenTokix> diytto: debug1: Offering RSA public key: /Users/diytto/.ssh/diyttoaws.pem
[09:36] <OpenTokix> I am guessing that is the problem
[09:37] <OpenTokix> diytto: for the -i you have to provide the full path to the key, it will not select that name of key from your .ssh dir
[09:37] <diytto> OpenTokix: even if i am in the .ssh dir?
[09:37] <OpenTokix> I think so
[09:37] <friendlyguy> i just found one mac user with "slightly" the same problem:
[09:37] <friendlyguy> ...on my Mac, the file /etc/ssh_config had the line PubkeyAuthentication = no I commented out that one line, and now everything works fine....
[09:38] <OpenTokix> friendlyguy: that is not standard behaviour on the mac.
[09:38] <friendlyguy> kk
[09:38] <friendlyguy> I've got very little clue about macs
[09:39] <OpenTokix> diytto: but you might also want to check out your /etc/ssh_config
[09:39] <diytto> I've never had a problem with logging in before
[09:39] <OpenTokix> debug3: Could not load "id_rsa.pub" as a RSA1 public key
[09:39] <diytto> OpenTokix: i get the same thing with the full path
[09:39] <OpenTokix> diytto: ok, post the debug-output
[09:40] <friendlyguy> i though: "debug2: key: id_rsa.pub (0x7ff35b700140), explicit" is indicating the use of the keyfile
[09:40] <friendlyguy> maybe you could also show us some log output from the server
[09:41] <diytto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11695243/
[09:41] <diytto> i can possibly
[09:41] <diytto> where is log info located
[09:41] <OpenTokix> debug3: Could not load "/Users/diytto/.ssh/id_rsa.pub" as a RSA1 public key
[09:41] <OpenTokix> There is your problem
[09:41] <OpenTokix> do a ls -l /Users/diytto/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
[09:42] <OpenTokix> oh
[09:42] <OpenTokix> haha
[09:42] <OpenTokix> now I get it
[09:42] <OpenTokix> =)
[09:42] <diytto> -rw-------+ 1 diytto staff 402 Jul 18 2014 /Users/diytto/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
[09:42] <OpenTokix> You are trying to login with your public key
[09:42] <OpenTokix> ssh -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa [email protected]
[09:42] <OpenTokix> this will work
[09:42] <friendlyguy> ouch
[09:43] <OpenTokix> haha, - so easy to miss
[09:43] <diytto> still denied
[09:43] <OpenTokix> ok, now with -vvvv and see the output
[09:44] <diytto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11695253/
[09:45] <OpenTokix> debug3: Could not load "/Users/diytto/.ssh/id_rsa" as a RSA1 public key
[09:45] <OpenTokix> file /Users/diytto/.ssh/id_rsa
[09:45] <OpenTokix> what does that command output?
[09:45] <OpenTokix> do _NOT_ paste your private key
[09:45] <diytto> /Users/diytto/.ssh/id_rsa: ASCII text
[09:45] <OpenTokix> ok
[09:45] <OpenTokix> if you look into that file
[09:46] <diytto> also, this fails with a separate pubkey on my phone
[09:46] <OpenTokix> does it start with ----BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY----
[09:46] <diytto> if that's helpful
[09:46] <friendlyguy> whats still bugging me, he tols us he is able to login with this same key to another user
[09:46] <OpenTokix> and proc-type 4,encrypted - etc.
[09:46] <OpenTokix> friendlyguy: I am guessing the other user is with the aws-pem-file
[09:46] <diytto> OpenTokix: it does
[09:47] <OpenTokix> ls -l /Users/diytto/.ssh/id_rsa
[09:47] <OpenTokix> What does that output?
[09:48] <diytto> -rw-------+ 1 diytto staff 1679 Jul 18 2014 /Users/diytto/.ssh/id_rsa
[09:48] <OpenTokix> looks correct
[09:49] <diytto> the aws one is for an amazon server
[09:49] <diytto> fyi
[09:49] <friendlyguy> guessed that ;)
[09:49] <diytto> it's not used here
[09:49] <OpenTokix> yes, I guessed that to
[09:49] <OpenTokix> and if you do the exact same command, just switchout user@
[09:49] <OpenTokix> it works?
[09:49] <diytto> my phone has it's own pubkey and is also unable to log in
[09:49] <diytto> yeah
[09:49] <OpenTokix> ie. ssh -i /Users/diytto/.ssh/id_rsa otheruser@sameserver ?
[09:49] <diytto> to sb1@de....
[09:50] <skylite> can I enable an apache module only for one vhost?
[09:50] <OpenTokix> skylite: no
[09:50] <skylite> never? :(
[09:50] <OpenTokix> skylite: but you can do the handler only for one vhost
[09:50] <OpenTokix> skylite: so it will be effectivly "hidden" for others
[09:50] <diytto> OpenTokix: that works fine
[09:51] <skylite> so I enable a module and hide it in all the other vhosts but one?
[09:51] <OpenTokix> skylite: no, you enable module and add the handler for that module only to the vhost that should have it
[09:51] <friendlyguy> hm... you could verify if your keypair is "cool"
[09:51] <OpenTokix> diytto: hmmm
[09:51] <friendlyguy> ssh-keygen -y -e -f <private key>
[09:51] <friendlyguy> and compare this to your pubkey
[09:52] <diytto> successful connection http://paste.ubuntu.com/11695290/
[09:52] <OpenTokix> diytto: im guessing there is something wrong on the serverside in the authorized_keys file, or its rights
[09:52] <OpenTokix> lunch now, *gone*
[09:52] <skylite> OpenTokix this is a quite simple module Is that gonna work the way you suggest? https://github.com/danghvu/mod_dumpost
[09:53] <diytto> friendlyguy: they appear to be identical
[09:54] <friendlyguy> weird weird
[09:56] <diytto> okay, i have shell access through my znc
[09:56] <diytto> so i can send commands
[10:00] <diytto> friendlyguy: only the last user i added to the server i am able to log in to
[10:03] <diytto> i am afraid i must go to sleep. it's 4am here. i will try to figure this out more in the morning
[10:03] <diytto> thank's for the help you've provided
[10:03] <friendlyguy> youre welcome
[10:03] <friendlyguy> gn8
[10:05] <friendlyguy> ist sdc denn wirklich "sdc"
[10:05] <friendlyguy> oh, sry... wrong window
[10:07] <friendlyguy> hmmm :) maybe one can help me to debug my server a little further... there is a "issue" which is driving me crazy. when i first start my server i can see the post until grub is supposed to start. -> thats when my monitor goes blank. IF i restart it (using ctrl-alt-del) i can watch the POST and grub appears
[10:08] <friendlyguy> AND, if i need to reboot again: i'll get a blank screen opposed to grub. hit ctrl-alt-del again, wait for the post stuff... and grub is there again
[10:08] <friendlyguy> precisely every 2nd "attempt"
[10:33] <OpenTokix> skylite: mod_audit already does that for you
[10:34] <skylite> OpenTokix thx I'll try that one ... already trying with mod_dumpio
[10:35] <OpenTokix> skylite: http://dev.prositen.com/wp/log-post-data-with-apache/ <--- there you have how mod_security does it.
[10:35] <skylite> thx a lot
[10:35] <OpenTokix> skylite: and then you add the Secrules in your vhosts
[10:36] <OpenTokix> skylite: my collegues site =)
[10:50] <skylite> OpenTokix great writing thx it works :)
[10:52] <OpenTokix> skylite: I forwarded your thanks to my collegue
[11:14] <rbasak> dannf: thanks for the memory corruption fix for MySQL. Any opinions on me pushing this to Debian too? I'm working on Debian mysql-5.6 right now.
[11:15] * rbasak goes for a walk/lunch while stuff builds
[14:12] <dannf> rbasak: yeah, i'd definitely +1 applying it to debian
[14:12] <rbasak> dannf: OK, thanks!
[14:13] <dannf> rbasak: also, i'd like to get it sru'd back to trusty - should i just go ahead and upload backports?
[14:14] <rbasak> dannf: that's fine - go for it.
[15:01] <friendlyguy> anybody got some experience with zfs dedup? i'd like to turn on dedup for a relative small pool ~ 2t where I'm going to store vm backups. i read that dedup takes 1-2 gb ram per tb in pool, so here max 4gb. I've got 16gb ram sitting in this machine, so looks good to me. BUT, I read on the german ubuntu wiki to "NEVER" turn on dedup.
[15:09] <ogra_> kickinz1, my ownclöoud snappy install constantly pops up an upgrade warning, are you working on a 8.0.3 snap ? (or is anyone)
[15:28] <kickinz1> ogra_, no
[15:40] <ogra_> kickinz1, well, it would be nice to have that upgraded somehow ...
[16:10] <kickinz1> ogra_, yes planned around next week.
[16:10] <ogra_> kickinz1, awesome, thanks :)
[16:10] <ogra_> if you need a tester, just ping me :)
[16:11] <kickinz1> ogra_, Ok, I'll do!
[16:27] <squisher> rbasak, another look at bcache-tools please... someone already spotted a bug :)
[16:27] <squisher> it's again rather trivial changes
[16:30] <rbasak> squisher: that looks fine. Is that two separate fixes in one commit or are they related to the same issue?
[16:30] <rbasak> squisher: and does piuparts pass now?
[16:31] <squisher> rbasak, hm, yeah, they should probably be separate
[16:31] <squisher> I'll check piuparts, but I tested it in pbuilder
[16:31] <rbasak> squisher: "Fix dracut" isn't really helping me. Maybe describe what you're fixing and why?
[16:32] <rbasak> (well, clearly you're fixing "dracut", but I mean the actual problem you're fixing)
[16:32] <squisher> rbasak, hmm, I wonder how I can fix that now with the gbp workflow
[16:33] <rbasak> squisher: don't bother rebasing, it's not worth it. So just add extra commits fixing up the changelog for this time I guess.
[16:33] <squisher> rbasak, yeah, I agree. I should be more careful with my descriptions (basically dracut wasn't working at all before, I was just being lazy)
[16:58] <Gregor3000> why is the check disk failing and reports corrupted files? i tried 3 different USB image burners - 1. Unetbooting in windows, LinuxliveUSB in windows and startup disk creator in linux. every time checking of disk reported error. despite the fact that md5sum matches, i've tested also USB it has no errors in readin & writing.
[16:59] <squisher> rbasak, I'll have to fix that later. I don't really like the gbp changelog handling, but on the other hand I would like to automatically generate the changelog :-\
[16:59] <Gregor3000> i also can not proceed with installer - it stops at 33% when formating /. i have preexisting software RAID1 that holds /swap and /var/log /data
[17:00] <squisher> Gregor3000, the md5sum of the downloaded image I assume?
[17:00] <squisher> I'd run memtest over night
[17:02] <Gregor3000> correct - miniiso or server - it's not memorry as i cretaed and booted the image on different PC's
[17:06] <Gregor3000> in the end it said it can't even detect the image (eventhough it was botoing from it and running other programs on it)
[17:13] <Gregor3000> hwo do i report bug with installer? also when reporting it do i add pictures? or what?
[17:13] <Gregor3000> sorry how
[18:15] <diytto> Hi, I was here last night with my issue if anyone saw it. Basically my server has locked me out from ssh. It is refusing my pubkey auth on my account, even though I have used previously. I can access a different account on the same server with the exact same authorized_keys, but not my personal account. Any ideas?
[18:16] <diytto> My account has sudo access, while the account i am able to access does not
[18:20] <sarnold> diytto: check permissions on your ~/.ssh and ~/.ssh/* files
[18:20] <sarnold> diytto: the sshd is very picky about e.g. too-wide group write support or files owned by the wrong user
[18:20] <diytto> permissions are fine, we went over them last night
[18:21] <diytto> that was the first thing we went over last night :(
[18:21] <sarnold> hehe nice :)
[18:22] <sarnold> is there anything in the logs?
[18:23] <diytto> where can i find the logs on the server
[18:24] <lordievader> diytto: /var/log/ (from there you want auth.log and the syslog)
[18:24] <diytto> alright let me take a look
[18:25] <diytto> well this is a problem
[18:25] <diytto> i can't read the logs
[18:26] <sarnold> can you su, sudo, or login, to the account that can read the logs?
[18:27] <diytto> no
[18:27] <diytto> unless there is a way to login without sudo
[18:27] <lordievader> diytto: He means to your user account with sudo powers.
[18:27] <diytto> no, that is the account i am locked out of
[18:28] <lordievader> diytto: Your ssh is locked, not local login, right?
[18:28] <squisher> afaik ubuntu doesn't use wheel for su, right? So you should be able to su into your sudo-able account if you know your local password
[18:29] <diytto> just ssh is locked
[18:29] <squisher> diytto, that's probably what lordievader is talking about too :)
[18:29] <squisher> then you shouldn't have a problem :)
[18:29] <lordievader> Yes, su'ing into the 'locked' account.
[18:29] <diytto> ah okay
[18:30] <diytto> i wasn't aware i could do that
[18:30] <diytto> okay i am in
[18:30] <lordievader> diytto: Then read the logs.
[18:34] <diytto> it looks like permissions for my home directory are wrong?
[18:34] <squisher> I guess if your home dir is 777 then other people could change the perms of your ~/.ssh dir
[18:36] <diytto> i am the only one on the server
[18:36] <lordievader> Still, sshd doesn't like that.
[18:37] <squisher> hm, I may be wrong on that, but anyway, what lordievader said
[18:37] <lordievader> As sarnold said, sshd is very picky.
[18:37] <diytto> i never changed that though, and I've never had an issue logging in previously
[18:38] <diytto> home dir perms drwxr-xr-x 8 sb1 sb1 4096 Jun 11 01:55 diytto
[18:38] <squisher> diytto, that's not 777 - you should paste the error from the logs
[18:38] <diytto> drwx------ 2 diytto diytto 4096 Jun 11 04:04 .ssh
[18:39] <sarnold> sb1 vs diytto??
[18:39] <diytto> oh wow i missed that
[18:40] <diytto> that fixed it
[18:40] <diytto> wow
[18:40] <diytto> i have no idea how that happened
[18:41] <squisher> `history | grep sb1` ;-)
[18:42] <diytto> thanks so much guys
[18:42] <diytto> i never would have found that issue
[18:42] <sarnold> all sorted?
[18:43] <diytto> yep, thanks
[18:44] <sarnold> sweet :)
[18:49] <shirgall> Hrm, the openssl update seems to have no changlog other than the Debian one.
[18:50] <sarnold> shirgall: what are you looking at? it should be quite extensive: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+changelog
[18:51] <shirgall> This -> /usr/share/doc/openssl/changelog.gz has a link to ../libssl1.0.0/changelog.gz which is missing
[18:53] <shirgall> But, the main thing is that it looks like logjam vulnerability, fixed in 1.0.1n, is not yet integrated, that's what I was trying to determine.
[18:54] <sarnold> OH!
[18:54] <sarnold> I see, you're actuyally talking about the changelog.gz file. feel free to ignore that. what you want is the changelog.Debian.gz file
[18:54] <shirgall> Yeah, it just surprised me that there was a dead link in openssl
[18:56] <shirgall> At any rate, i was looking for CVE-2015-4000 and didn't find it
[18:56] <friendlyguy> hmmm. quick question: i've installed htop, but i don't get any percentage numbers of core / ram usage
[18:58] <mdeslaur> shirgall: the CVE-2015-4000 is actually about the TLS flaw, I didn't use it in the openssl updates. WIth the last openssl update, the export ciphers were disabled, and today's update rejects shorter than 768 dh params.
[18:58] <mdeslaur> shirgall: do if you install today's openssl update, you're all set with the logjam mitigations
[18:58] <shirgall> mdeslaur: yeah, i poked in gnutls, but while I was looking around, I noticed the dead line
[18:58] <shirgall> link
[18:59] <shirgall> mdeslaur: ok, cool, thanks
[19:50] <friendlyguy> is there a way to install mate-core with gdm or lightdm on a ubuntu server? (without actually installing stuff like evolution-server and crap)
[19:52] <sarnold> friendlyguy: apt-get install the specific leaf packages you want, they ought to drag in whatever they need
[20:57] <mitfree> I have been using apt to update my 14.04 VPS and now my /boot is full. I've been unable to update. What is the right way to keep my /boot nice and clean?
[21:05] <hexch> mitfree: clean up boot
[21:05] <hexch> remove unused kernel.
[21:05] <RoyK> next time, use a larger /boot
[21:05] <RoyK> using 200 megs or so for /boot is nonsense
[21:06] <RoyK> and as hexch said, clean up old stuff
[21:06] <mitfree> https://img.bi/#/mOFiH0x!YtDlPwylaNEQyiyvgAwkhpoAUTBOpAGqgQlgXood
[21:06] <sarnold> RoyK: didn't you have a nice short command last time this came up, something that looked way simpler than my usual method?
[21:06] <RoyK> sometimes you can't remove old kernels easily because of a full filesystem - if so - "> whateverfileyouwanttotruncate" and start over
[21:07] <mitfree> The image is from cloud at cost, so I didn't choose the size. I'm also having trouble with /tmp
[21:07] <RoyK> sarnold: if you remove the file, apt will get angry - if you just truncate the file, it'll remove it easily
[21:08] <RoyK> sarnold: truncate the file with something like "> /boot/thatfile" and do apt-get purge "thatpackage"
[21:09] <mitfree> I posted the results of df -h
[21:09] <RoyK> mitfree: tune2fs -m 0 /dev/sda1
[21:09] <RoyK> mitfree: but remove the old kernels
[21:09] <sarnold> RoyK: I hadn't heard that about the truncation! that'll save a ton of effort :)
[21:10] <RoyK> sarnold: we all learn along :)
[21:11] <mitfree> what do you mean by truncate exactly? is that just changing the file name or actualy editing the file by deleting parts of it.
[21:11] <RoyK> mitfree: just removing its contents
[21:11] <RoyK> mitfree: setting filesize to zero
[21:12] <mitfree> intersting idea, I honestly hadn't thought of that.
[21:12] <RoyK> mitfree: just don't truncate the live kernel
[21:12] <_piggy_> Just did a new install of server 14.04. apt-get update says that kernel for utopic (not trusty) is being held back. Any ideas?
[21:13] <_piggy_> uname -a shows 10.04
[21:13] <_piggy_> bah 14.04
[21:14] <_piggy_> Just tested on another 14.04 and it does not show utopic
[21:15] <RoyK> never had that issue
[21:16] <_piggy_> Ya. Me neither. Starnge
[21:16] <_piggy_> Strange that is. One of those days...
[21:17] <tarpman> _piggy_: run apt-get update and check again. yesterday I had some kernels held back because the metapackages showed up in the archive before the actual kernels did, but all has been ok today
[21:17] <_piggy_> tarpman, will do thanks. BRB
[21:18] <tarpman> _piggy_: regarding utopic vs trusty, servers installed from 14.04 or 14.04.1 media will have the trusty (3.13) kernel, servers installed from 14.04.2 media will have the utopic (3.16) kernel
[21:20] <_piggy_> tarpman: That's the instll media I used. Any idea for change? Repositories show trusty too.
[21:20] <_piggy_> tarpman: I assume it will be ok to proceed then?
[21:21] <tarpman> _piggy_: I don't understand "Any idea for change?", sorry
[21:21] <tarpman> _piggy_: there's no need to downgrade unless something is broken, if that's what you mean
[21:22] <_piggy_> tarpman: Thanks. You have been a good help. I will see if I can figure out why the kernel change happened. Thanks!
[21:57] <shirgall> _piggy_: you can learn more about the kernel changes here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[22:34] <_piggy_> shirgall: Thanks. Saw that not long ago. Thanks for posting.
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[21:30] <ax3ldev> salut
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[04:57] <Mirv> mandel: so doko reported the ciborium problem is about porting it to the next qml go version (this might be obvious to you, but not to me since I didn't understand the build failure..)
[06:40] <robru> Mirv: sil2100 during your shift today can you find a core dev to ack 31? Happened right at my EOD and all US was gone by then.
[06:55] <sil2100> robru: sure, thanks for the notice :)
[06:56] <robru> sil2100: you're welcome! Goodnight
[07:03] <Mirv> robru: yeah, I was thinking about that already
[07:04] <Mirv> robru: goodnight
[07:04] <Mirv> it's just that at early EU hours not too many core devs are around
[07:05] <Mirv> sil2100: uh oh, possible complication. there's a vivid-proposed upload with same version number https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/0.9.10.0-4ubuntu15.2
[07:06] <Mirv> it does not affect the images immediately, especially as it has been in -proposed for a month already, so we can publish the current package to overlay
[07:06] <Mirv> it has failed SRU verification but still these cases might bite us at some point
[07:23] <sil2100> Mirv: yeah, I think in this case we might need to start using some overlay-specific versioning scheme
[07:23] <sil2100> Mirv: otherwise there's always a way it would bite us
[08:13] <mzanetti> sil2100, hey, can you reconfig silo4 please? I've added a tiny branch for the address book app to not allow rotating
[08:13] <sil2100> mzanetti: on it :)
[08:13] <sil2100> The silo is dual-landing, right?
[08:14] <mzanetti> yes
[08:14] <mzanetti> all the dependencies should be ok now
[08:14] <mzanetti> I *really* hope
[08:15] <sil2100> I think everything should be in place indeed
[08:17] <mzanetti> sil2100, I only need to build address-book-app right, no need to rebuild all the others because of the reconfig if they weren't dirty?
[08:17] <sil2100> mzanetti: exactly
[08:17] <mzanetti> ack. doing
[08:18] <mzanetti> let's get this beast landed today!
[08:18] <sil2100> mzanetti: if the others were clean before that is! i.e. nothing made the silo 'dirty'
[08:18] <mzanetti> yep
[08:18] <mzanetti> the last rebuild was yesterday night after the apps landed, nothing else landed
[08:30] <mandel> Mirv, sorry, I'm out today, I'm full of drugs after my wisdom teeth were removed
[08:42] <Mirv> mandel: ok!
[10:15] <mzanetti> sil2100, is it normal that the silo build log says "Dependency wait" while the ppa says "failure because of the dep wait"?
[10:15] <mzanetti> https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-004-1-build/197/console
[10:15] <mzanetti> https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-004/+packages
[10:15] <sil2100> mzanetti: looking
[10:16] <sil2100> mzanetti: eh... looks like vivid is missing another thing
[10:16] <sil2100> hmmm
[10:16] <mzanetti> sil2100, libunity-api-dev, right?
[10:16] <sil2100> But that's REALLY strand
[10:16] <cjwatson> mzanetti: It's normal that that shows up with an X icon; whether it's a failure or not depends on your point of view
[10:16] <sil2100> *strange
[10:16] <mzanetti> that's in the silo too
[10:17] <cjwatson> mzanetti: Not Only as of recently
[10:17] <sil2100> mzanetti: let me retry, maybe it didn't pick up the dep appearing
[10:17] <mzanetti> I think the armhf build just gave up too quickly because it needed to build unity-api
[10:17] <cjwatson> It hasn't given up
[10:17] <cjwatson> dep-waits are auto-retried when the dep is available
[10:18] <cjwatson> But out of cron, so there's a delay
[10:18] <sil2100> Yeah, sometimes it can take a while, so I usually poke it manually then
[10:18] <mzanetti> oh... now it builds
[10:18] <cjwatson> It would have sorted itself out, but retrying manually is fine
[10:18] <sil2100> I poked it manually, should be fine now
[10:18] <mzanetti> ah ok... yeah, just the red cross confused me
[10:19] <sil2100> No worries, it's a normal thing, I was worried we didn't have the right libunity-api-dev version in vivid
[10:19] <mzanetti> sil2100, same for unity8 armhf btw... if you can poke that too, otherwise I'll just wait, no prob
[10:19] <sil2100> mzanetti: done, let's say how it goes
[10:19] <mzanetti> ta
[10:27] <mzanetti> sil2100, erm... which version do I pick for the gles-sync in a dual landing silo?
[10:27] <sil2100> mzanetti: the upstream one I would suppose, why do you ask?
[10:28] <mzanetti> because there are two, 14.10 and 15.04
[10:30] <mzanetti> erm. 15.04 and 15.10
[10:31] <sil2100> Yeah, but just always target the upstream versions, i.e. if there's a version of 1.2+15.10.20150606-0ubuntu1, simply be sure to target the main upstream part, 1.2
[10:32] <sil2100> This means you'll have to bump the upstream version number whenever the API changes or there's something distinctive
[10:33] <mzanetti> ah ok. thanks
[10:33] <john-mcaleely> sil2100, what's the status of the ota-4 build?
[10:34] <sil2100> ogra_: ping :)
[10:34] <sil2100> john-mcaleely: we need to publish silo 31, on it now
[10:34] <john-mcaleely> so, QA is all done?
[10:35] <sil2100> john-mcaleely: for silo 31 yes, then we copy it to snapshot, build an image, QA do some checks and I suppose we're good to go
[10:35] <sil2100> ogra_: could you take a look at https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-031-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/network-manager_packaging_changes.diff ?
[10:35] <john-mcaleely> ah, yes, makes sense
[10:35] <john-mcaleely> good to know, thanks
[10:36] <ogra_> sil2100, ACK
[10:36] <sil2100> \o/
[10:36] <sil2100> THanks
[10:40] <Mirv> mandel: holy ... I may have accidentally been able to port ciborium to go qml.v1 .. https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/ciborium/port_to_qml.v1/+merge/261707 could you take a look when you are back in ranks?
[10:44] <Mirv> if it's anywhere near what should have been done, I will be surprised. I was also surprised when bzr bd ran, unit tests passed and package was created
[10:44] * Mirv is very trusting in his Go skills
[10:58] <sil2100> jibel: do you know if Pat wanted anything else in OTA-4?
[10:58] <sil2100> Or is it ok for me to start doing magic tricks to build an image?
[11:21] <sil2100> ogra_: I'll be doing some build related magic for OTA-4 now
[11:21] <ogra_> fine
[11:22] <sil2100> ogra_, slangasek: just so you're aware... what I did is, disabled the importer, reconfigured the 14.09-factory-proposed channel to look for the vivid cdimage builds (and use tarballs from the respectful rc-proposed channels) and disabled the rootfs part of the rc-proposed/ubuntu channel
[11:22] <sil2100> I did that for a one-time run
[11:22] <sil2100> This way, once I build now an image from the snapshot PPA, the rootfs will only be picked up by 14.09-factory-proposed
[11:22] <sil2100> We will use it as the final OTA-4 candidate
[11:23] <sil2100> Once it's built, I'll run the importer, then modify the config back to the previous state and build a new rc-proposed image
[11:23] <sil2100> I did all this mambo-jumbo so that we don't have a strange image in rc-proposed and that we can have the snapshotted one only in 14.09-factory-proposed
[11:24] <sil2100> ogra_: sounds fine? (and overly unnecessarily complicated?)
[11:25] <ogra_> sinds fine, yes
[11:25] <ogra_> *sounds
[11:25] <ogra_> not sure it is overly compilcated :)
[11:25] <sil2100> Ok then, double-checking everything and running the build
[11:35] <sil2100> Build running
[11:41] <jibel> popey, are you not allowed to add lines to the spreadsheet?
[11:43] <popey> not last time i tried jibel
[11:43] <sil2100> jibel: I usually help out and fill in the info as needed as well
[11:43] <sil2100> I think popey has access
[11:44] <popey> \o/
[11:44] <popey> now, what's the url :)
[11:44] <sil2100> popey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain has always the latest ;)
[11:44] <popey> thanks!
[11:45] <jibel> popey, add requests for click apps to the 'Tarballs and Clicks' tab
[11:45] <popey> sweet, will do that from now on thanks!
[11:45] <sil2100> I added this one entry already :)
[11:46] <sil2100> Normally just copy-paste the info to the right places as what you sent out by e-mail and poke us, we'll approve it as a landing
[11:46] <popey> k
[11:50] <sil2100> pmcgowan: hey! I'm building the final OTA-4 candidate
[11:50] <sil2100> pmcgowan: I set 14.09-factory-proposed as the target for this image, it's being built from the stable-snapshot PPA - we have the 2G->3G fix in it
[11:51] <sil2100> I'll take a bit to finish, I'll be jumping out for lunch as well but I suppose it'll finish around when I'm back
[11:52] <davmor2> jibel: I'm assuming once sil2100 has finished this we need to cover the ota tests right?
[11:53] <sil2100> davmor2: I suppose the OTA tests will have to be done once we copy it to rc
[11:53] <sil2100> I would like you guys to check if all is ok in the image before that happens ;) Maybe a quick look if it boots or something
[11:53] * sil2100 lunch
[11:53] <davmor2> sil2100: yeah I think that is plan
[11:53] <jibel> davmor2, as sil2100 once it's in RC
[11:53] <jibel> +said
[11:54] <jibel> davmor2, but first check that languages are ok, MMS is default, 2G->3G is fixed on the new build then promote to rc
[11:55] <jibel> s/MMS is default/MMS group chat is not default/
[11:55] <davmor2> jibel: indeed
[11:59] <mzanetti> sil2100, I'm afraid I need your help again: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/208833921/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-armhf.unity8_8.10%2B15.04.20150611.1-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[11:59] <mzanetti> looking at my vivid+overlay powered device, all seems to be fine
[12:00] <mzanetti> not sure why the silo won't install it
[12:07] <pmcgowan> sil2100, awesome, I see the MMS receive fix queued up, would have been nice to get as well but need to ship sometime
[13:03] <popey> sil2100: added calendar to spreadsheet \o/
[13:04] <kenvandine> is anyone familiar with the boottest jobs, specifically for lxc-android-config?
[13:05] <kenvandine> it's failing to install the deb, which can't work since that package has to be installed from recovery
[13:07] <kenvandine> cihelp: ^^
[13:07] <kenvandine> actually, fginther i see you've kicked a few of these jobs, any clue how to make them pass?
[13:08] <fginther> kenvandine, looking
[13:09] <kenvandine> fginther, the deb has to be installed in recovery, or at least after doing some manual unmounts... so the job would require some special handling
[13:09] <pstolowski> jibel, hello! what's the situation with silos 29, 40, 13, any chance to land that stuff this week?
[13:12] <fginther> kenvandine, ah, so this simple can't be handled by the current test. We should be able to just ask one of the archive-admins to pass it
[13:12] <fginther> I can't do it directly
[13:13] <kenvandine> Laney, ^^ can you do that? push lxc-android-config through?
[13:13] <kenvandine> Laney, from proposed to release that is
[13:13] <kenvandine> fginther, can't we drop the boottest for it?
[13:16] <fginther> kenvandine, There's a dependency between the proposed migration service and boottest, I can't just tell it not to run the test, but I may be able to fake a response
[13:20] <fginther> kenvandine, ok, lets see if this works
[13:31] <fginther> kenvandine, that did it
[13:31] <kenvandine> woot
[13:31] <kenvandine> thanks!
[13:31] <kenvandine> fginther, so future jobs won't need massaging?
[13:32] <kenvandine> not that i hope to land lxc-android-config... it isn't exactly fun :)
[13:32] <fginther> kenvandine, no, I had to just manually create a passing result for this. Getting it to automatically pass in the future will take more work
[13:32] <kenvandine> ok
[13:33] <kenvandine> fginther, it's had passing runs before though
[13:33] <kenvandine> which is just odd...
[13:33] <kenvandine> unless those were faked :)
[13:33] <kenvandine> dunno
[13:33] <jibel> pstolowski, rvr is verifying 29, 40 is next in the queue, and if you can find someone to review an approve the MR on 13 it'll move to ready for testing.
[13:34] <jibel> s/an/and/
[13:35] <fginther> kenvandine, there was a regression in the boottest that was causing packages to not actually be installed for a while
[13:35] <pstolowski> jibel, ok, thanks. 13' MR was approved yesterday
[13:35] <fginther> kenvandine, which would explain those passes
[13:35] <kenvandine> ah
[14:06] <kgunn> sil2100: just checking, silo 4 having trouble on unity8 due to libconnectivity-qt1, any update on that one ?
[14:06] <kgunn> i was disconnected for a bit
[14:08] <sil2100> kgunn: hey, didn't look at it, I was out for lunch when I got the ping and missed it sadly, let me look
[14:16] <slangasek> sil2100: thanks for the info. I don't think you actually want to disable *just* the Ubuntu part on rc-proposed however; I think you want to mark rc-proposed 'manual' so that it doesn't import some crazy set of files that excludes the ubuntu tarball entirely
[14:17] <sil2100> slangasek: uh, ok, too late, but I think everything was fine I suppose...
[14:18] <sil2100> slangasek: I remember I once asked stgraber and he mentioned that if there is no section (for instance, no ubuntu_file), nothing will be imported at for that
[14:18] <Laney> kenvandine: fginther: Can you fix boottest to skip this package if it's never going to work?
[14:18] <sil2100> And since there was no change in tarballs, I thought no new image with junk would appear
[14:19] <slangasek> sil2100: in fact, if you look at the rc-proposed channel, you'll see that there is now an image on the channel with no 'ubuntu' part
[14:19] <sil2100> Ouch
[14:19] <slangasek> sil2100: I've marked the channel manual for the moment, and we'll need to delete the image to clean it up
[14:19] <sil2100> Yeah, once we actually get a real image to this channel
[14:19] <slangasek> sil2100: even if stgraber said this was supposed to work, it's a weird way to do it, as opposed to just disabling imports for the channel :)
[14:19] <slangasek> sil2100: no, immediately; I'll work on it now
[14:20] <sil2100> Anyway, we seem to have the snapshot image in 14.09-factory-proposed now, just confirming it has the right parts
[14:22] <sil2100> Ok, image looks fine, device and custom bits are correct + the ubuntu parts correct
[14:23] <sil2100> slangasek: I guess we can revert the setting now, I would build a standard overlay image though as I don't want the rc-proposed channel to pull in the snapshot release
[14:23] <sil2100> Not a big deal, but I didn't want them to have strange images (but they already did get that, eh)
[14:24] <sil2100> slangasek: next time I'll make it manual, just this seemed quicker to me ;)
[14:24] <sil2100> Didn't expect it to fetch anything
[14:24] <slangasek> sil2100: 'manual' is a one-line change ;)
[14:24] <sil2100> slangasek: well, I wasn't sure it didn't require removing all the other lines
[14:24] <sil2100> I feel bad deleting so many good lines
[14:24] <sil2100> ;)
[14:25] <slangasek> broken images removed from all devices, rerunning importer
[14:26] <sil2100> slangasek: thanks, sorry about that, as I said I didn't expect anything to be pulled in since why would it
[14:30] <kenvandine> fginther, couldn't you just return success if the package is lxc-android-config?
[14:30] <kenvandine> hopefully it's truely a one-off case
[14:30] <kenvandine> we don't want to skip it for most packages
[14:31] <fginther> kenvandine, the test has to also determine the version of the package to promote, thats really the only thing that's complicated here
[14:31] <kenvandine> Laney, ^^
[14:31] <fginther> kenvandine, Laney, but yeah, whitelisting this package is probably the right approach here
[14:31] <Laney> I think so
[14:31] <Laney> do you need a bug or anything to track the work to do it?
[14:33] <fginther> Laney, sure, you can file them here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch-boottest
[14:35] <Laney> done, thanks
[14:36] <sil2100> kgunn: still looking into that, will have to experiment in a chroot
[14:37] <kgunn> mzanetti: ^
[14:38] <kgunn> full shell rotation==snake bit
[14:38] <mzanetti> as soon as that's landed I'll probably be drunk for a day or two
[14:39] <sil2100> kgunn, mzanetti: anyway, not sure if it's related as otherwise this would lead to all archs to fail, but there's a somewhat of a loop-dependency in connectivity-api right now...
[14:39] <sil2100> I mean, in unity8 basically, but due to connectivity-api
[14:40] <sil2100> unity8 depends on libconnectivity-qt1, that depends on indicator-network and that depends on unity8 o_O
[14:40] <sil2100> That's not healthy at all
[14:40] <mzanetti> uh oh
[14:40] <mzanetti> I don't think that has changed in a long time tho...
[14:41] <sil2100> It changed in the latest connectivity-api
[14:41] <mzanetti> oh, I see
[14:41] <sil2100> I checked and the vivid version does not depend on indicator-network
[14:41] <sil2100> The one in the overlay that's shipped with indicator-network starts having that dep ;/
[14:41] <sil2100> That smells like serious trouble to me
[14:42] <sil2100> Need to check if that can be the cause here as well
[14:42] <mzanetti> Wellark, ^^
[14:44] <sil2100> Damn, this is really bad right now
[14:45] <sil2100> When I check the amd64 unity8 build logs it's actually INSTALLING UNITY8 as a build dep during building
[14:45] <sil2100> :O
[14:50] <sil2100> Wellark: ping
[14:58] <kgunn> sil2100: just wondering, how'd this only happen in vivid+overlay? is connectivity-api diverged ?
[14:59] <sil2100> Not sure, still checking if it's related, maybe it's just a race that causes it to fail - all in all, this is NOT the correct behavior anyway and will lead to problems sooner or later
[14:59] <sil2100> Since you can't depend on unity8 when building unity8
[14:59] <sil2100> But I'm still looking, now prepared the chroot
[14:59] <cjwatson> Well
[14:59] <cjwatson> You can
[15:00] <cjwatson> It's not necessarily a good idea, but it's not fatal
[15:00] <slangasek> sil2100: should the importer be re-enabled now?
[15:00] <cjwatson> That sort of thing is more to be expected from toolchain-type stuff, though
[15:01] <sil2100> slangasek: I was thinking - is rc-proposed still manual? Since I woudln't want the snapshot image to generate a new image
[15:01] <sil2100> slangasek: maybe we should build a new overlay-based rootfs?
[15:05] <mzanetti> sil2100, kgunn: I guess this is the reason why it only fails on vivid: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-network/0.5.1+15.10.20150604-0ubuntu1
[15:06] <sil2100> hm, still, a bit strange it would break like this
[15:06] <sil2100> mzanetti, kgunn: I'll keep investigating, but we have a team meeting now :)
[15:06] <sil2100> So much slooower than usual
[15:06] <sil2100> But my chroot will certainly make thins easier
[15:11] <sil2100> Ok, getting somewhere
[15:12] <sil2100> Found the root cause
[15:15] <ogra_> this is ubuntu, we only have sudo causes
[15:17] <davidbarth> hey trainguards, are you guys still creating silos for oldies? like an rtm14-09 missing backport ? (see line 65)
[15:18] <ogra_> davidbarth, what for ?
[15:18] <robru> davidbarth: uh, no, rtm support was ripped out of the train
[15:18] <ogra_> all users will be on vivid soon ... no need to care for 14.09
[15:19] <mzanetti> sil2100, fix is in spreadsheet row 66
[15:19] <sil2100> mzanetti: anyway, the bug is oxide ;/
[15:19] <mzanetti> wat?
[15:19] <sil2100> I mean, not exactly, let me clear out everything in a minute
[15:19] <sil2100> Too many stuff going on
[15:20] <mzanetti> sil2100, I found out that pete-woods dropped the dep to unity8 from indicator-network in wily, with the commit message describing this issue
[15:20] <mzanetti> so I backported that commit to their 15.04 branch
[15:22] <sil2100> mzanetti: so, the problem is in qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-web-plugin which is one of the big chain dependencies
[15:23] <sil2100> hm, no, wait
[15:23] <sil2100> Oh
[15:24] <robru> sil2100: when was the last time you assigned or reconfigured a silo today? it seems the spreadsheet has been updated to new spreadsheet API which breaks a lot of our code (in particular the menu for assigning and reconfiguring is gone). I'm not sure if a person did that or if google is just forcibly deprecating the old api.
[15:24] <sil2100> robru: uh, I reconfigured one silo at least, it seemed to be ok
[15:25] <robru> sil2100: yeah but how long ago?
[15:25] <sil2100> robru: in the morning I think, so around 7 hours ago?
[15:25] <sil2100> Damn, stupid google
[15:26] <robru> sil2100: k, I don't know when this switch happened, but I just tried to assign a silo and google was like "welcome to the new google sheets! btw all your scripts are broken"
[15:26] <sil2100> uuh
[15:26] <mzanetti> oh dear...
[15:27] <kenvandine> robru, close it and reopen
[15:27] <kenvandine> it happened to me earlier today
[15:27] <rvr> pstolowski: Approving silo 29
[15:27] <kenvandine> robru, at least that worked for me
[15:27] <kenvandine> like 30m ago
[15:29] <robru> kenvandine: oh weird, indeed reloading worked
[15:29] <kenvandine> robru, yeah... i freaked out about it earlier... spent a few minutes swearing about the damn spreadsheet
[15:30] <robru> kenvandine: it's really pathetic. luckily the replacement is really close ;-)
[15:30] <kenvandine> robru, yeah yeah... heard that before :)
[15:30] * kenvandine ducks
[15:31] * kenvandine gets a red bull for robru, code faster!
[15:31] <robru> kenvandine: the difference is, last time I said that i was waiting for another team that had other priorities. this time, I'm writing it myself and I have a working demo that i'm iterating on ;-)
[15:32] <sil2100> mzanetti: ok it's actually a very absurd thing, I'm starting to think it was just some hiccup :|
[15:32] <pstolowski> rvr, great, thanks for the update!
[15:49] <slangasek> sil2100: the rc-proposed channel is still manual, yes
[15:50] <slangasek> sil2100: and if you're done with the snapshot build, yes we should probably kick off another overlay rootfs with the regular config - but since rc-proposed is still set to manual it should be ok to re-enable the importer
[15:50] <sil2100> slangasek: ok, so we can re-enable the importer, disable the 14.09-factory-proposed and build a new rootfs
[15:50] <sil2100> Right :)
[15:50] * slangasek nods
[15:51] <sil2100> Ok, on it
[15:52] <mzanetti> sil2100, so that branch I proposed, is that no good?
[15:52] <sil2100> Building the rootfs
[15:53] <mzanetti> https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/indicator-network/backport-dep-loop-fix/+merge/261742
[15:53] <sil2100> mzanetti: I'll check it in a moment, I'm still looking for the reason of the issues
[15:54] <sil2100> mzanetti: it's strange as it almost looks as if it didn't see packages in -updates - if I enable updates in my chroot, everything works fine... but actually, let me try one more thing
[15:58] <popey> sil2100: we having a landing call today?
[15:58] <popey> (just checking)
[15:59] <ogra_> oh, thats what the harps in my pocket watend to tell me !
[16:00] <sil2100> popey: yeah
[16:01] <sil2100> robru: ping pong
[16:17] <mzanetti> lol... "the harps in my pocket"
[16:17] <mzanetti> so true
[16:21] <sil2100> mzanetti: this build failure is still a mystery for me, cannot reproduce the issue in a similarily configured chroot
[16:22] <mzanetti> sil2100, same here... can't repro on the phone with the same archive configuration
[16:22] <mzanetti> sil2100, anyhow, pete-woods seems to have broken it for wily
[16:22] <mzanetti> shouldn't we just land that backport to vivid?
[16:22] <mzanetti> by broken I mean "broken the dependency loop"
[16:22] <mzanetti> aka fixed it :D
[16:24] <sil2100> Yeah, probably a good idea :) It *might* help, but... there's no guarantee
[16:24] <sil2100> We'll assign a silo, we had spreadsheet issues
[16:24] <john-mcaleely> sil2100, any story on an ota-4 build?
[16:25] <sil2100> Ah, forgot robru assigned it already
[16:25] <sil2100> john-mcaleely: it's done, the build at least, now QA is making sure all is cool
[16:25] <sil2100> Then we copy to RC
[16:25] <john-mcaleely> sil2100, aha. perfect
[16:25] <robru> sil2100: mzanetti: yep silo 18 is ready to go
[16:26] <sil2100> Good you reminded me, with all the things going on I almost forgot I need to fix up a generic image...
[16:26] <sil2100> hmmm, problem is, we already have another one
[16:26] <sil2100> Damn
[16:26] <mzanetti> thanks robru, thanks sil2100. Really appreciate your help
[16:28] <robru> mzanetti: you're welcome
[16:33] <sil2100> Ok, generic image stuffed in
[16:33] <sil2100> That was so close...
[16:34] <sil2100> mzanetti: so, since I'm currently out of ideas, let's try landing the change from silo 18 and see if that helps - if not, we'd have to re-check that ;/
[16:36] <mzanetti> yep
[16:36] <mzanetti> building right now
[16:38] <jhodapp> sil2100, silo27 is ready for publishing
[16:41] <sil2100> ogra_: hey! We'd need some packaging ACKs for really easy changes:
[16:41] <sil2100> ogra_: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-029-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/ubuntuone-credentials_packaging_changes.diff and https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-029-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/unity-scope-click_packaging_changes.diff
[16:43] <ogra_> sil2100, ACK
[16:43] <sil2100> ogra_: thanks!
[16:43] <sil2100> :)
[16:45] <sil2100> robru: ok, so I'm approving and publishing silo 11, but it seems the train invalidly built the package - it thought there was no previous version in wily and included all the history in the upload (and requested a packaging ACK saying it's a NEW package)
[16:45] <sil2100> robru: while the actual change was just a small code change
[16:45] <sil2100> robru: (see https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-011-2-publish/56/ )
[16:46] <sil2100> robru: will you need the PPA contents for debugging or can I publish it?
[16:46] <sil2100> (this is the actual change: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/208269342/nuntium_1.4%2B15.10.20150521-0ubuntu8_1.4%2B15.10.20150604-0ubuntu1.diff.gz )
[16:46] <sil2100> Ah, I see the reason for that
[16:46] <sil2100> robru: actually, it seems the problem here was the version number in the latest package
[16:47] <robru> sil2100: wait
[16:47] <sil2100> robru: somehow 1.4+15.10.20150521-0ubuntu8 was not in trunk...
[16:47] <robru> sil2100: do not publish
[16:47] <robru> sil2100: the reason it thinks it's a new package is because dest is set as overlay ppa.
[16:47] <sil2100> It got hm, overriden by 1.4+15.04.20150521-0ubuntu1, strange stuff
[16:47] <robru> sil2100: not a train bug, silo is misconfigured.
[16:47] <sil2100> Ah, uuuh!
[16:47] <robru> sil2100: nuntium really isn't in overlay ppa
[16:47] <jhodapp> thanks sil2100
[16:47] <sil2100> Duh
[16:48] <sil2100> robru: right, not for wily at leaset
[16:48] <robru> sil2100: reconfigure for wily and watch only build,should fix it
[16:48] <sil2100> *least
[16:48] <robru> sil2100: I mean reconfigure without dest ppa set
[16:48] <sil2100> Right
[16:51] <sil2100> robru: ok, updated the MR, if you could later top-approve it it would be awesome
[16:51] <sil2100> :)
[16:51] <sil2100> Thanks for noticing the invalid target btw.!
[16:52] <robru> sil2100: you're welcome
[17:05] <robru> boiko: you got silo 20, note telephony-service conflict in silo 43
[17:07] <sil2100> robru: publishing still broken...
[17:07] <sil2100> robru: it would require a rebuild probably
[17:07] <sil2100> robru: as it has the wrong information in the upload, but I suppose the package itself is good
[17:08] <robru> sil2100: that's weird, before the content diff was null now it has something, which is expected. I'm not sure why the packging diff still thinks it's a new package
[17:08] <robru> sil2100: I say just force publish it, should be fine
[17:08] <robru> sil2100: the package is definitely fine, this is just an issue with train barfing on the diff
[17:09] <sil2100> -nuntium (1.4+15.10.20150521-0ubuntu8) wily; urgency=medium
[17:09] <sil2100> +nuntium (1.4+15.04.20150521-0ubuntu1) vivid; urgency=medium
[17:09] <sil2100> This is a bit worrying but still
[17:09] <sil2100> I guess it's ok to publish
[17:09] <sil2100> I'll go on ahead since we need this package badly now
[17:09] <robru> sil2100: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-011-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/nuntium_content.diff/*view*/ what diff you looking at? package is still a wily package
[17:10] <robru> oh, the previous release. weird.
[17:11] <robru> sil2100: I blame trunk, check the diff on the MP: https://code.launchpad.net/~alfonsosanchezbeato/nuntium/fix-mms-rx/+merge/260678 it shows 521 as vivid.
[17:11] <sil2100> hah, yeah...
[17:43] <popey> pmcgowan: I know how much you love bugs - this is annoying https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/+bug/1454210
[17:43] <popey> pmcgowan: if you're on vivid and you update an app which has an account plugin, the plugin is removed and re-added, losing settings
[17:44] <popey> pmcgowan: will hit everyone once we OTA-4
[17:44] <pmcgowan> that is annoying
[17:44] <pmcgowan> oh
[17:44] <pmcgowan> popey, so its not a developer thing only?
[17:44] <popey> nope
[17:45] <popey> if a user updates an app which has an OA plugin inside (reminders/notes) it will hit them
[17:45] <popey> mzanetti: right? ^
[17:45] <pmcgowan> popey, sounds like you need to uninstall
[17:45] <mzanetti> erm... it is a developer thing only
[17:45] <pmcgowan> not update
[17:45] <popey> mzanetti: how so?
[17:46] <mzanetti> because update doesn't remove it, only if the account is uninstalled
[17:46] <popey> mzanetti: if I pkcon install-local a new reminders, it does it to me.
[17:46] <popey> I have to re-auth each time
[17:46] <mzanetti> oh really
[17:46] <mzanetti> well, I only tried with qtcreator which does indeed a remove + install
[17:46] <popey> maybe the wording of that bug doesn't cover my use case exactly
[17:47] <mzanetti> however, I don't think we're affected if an app is just updated in the store
[17:47] <popey> how so?
[17:47] <mzanetti> at least I wouldn't have noticed it yet... we are releasing a reminders update now, are we?
[17:47] <mzanetti> I will watch out if it happens
[17:47] <popey> soon
[17:47] <popey> let me test on my device here
[17:48] <popey> you dont think it happens from store, but does from pkcon?
[17:48] <popey> can't see how
[17:48] <mzanetti> fair point
[17:48] <popey> lemme confirm anyway
[17:52] <popey> ok, so all works as expected on rtm... upgraded and didn't lose the account
[17:52] * popey tries vivid
[17:55] <mzanetti> I only have this issue as of vivid
[17:59] <popey> mzanetti: confirmed
[17:59] <mzanetti> popey, what is the situation then?
[17:59] <popey> the act of installing a new version of reminders onto a system that has an online account setup will delete that online account entry
[17:59] <popey> (on vivid)
[18:00] <mzanetti> popey, erm... does it affect us throught the store too?
[18:00] <popey> I don't see how it wont
[18:00] <mzanetti> O_o
[18:01] <mzanetti> do you have an old package of reminders floating on your hard disk? could install it, set up the account and then upgrade from store
[18:01] <popey> i can do that, yes
[18:01] <popey> i can pluck any old version from jenkins. will do that now, to confirm
[18:04] <popey> mzanetti: confirmed
[18:05] <mzanetti> :(
[18:05] <popey> installed com.ubuntu.reminders_0.5.429_armhf.click, created evernote account, opened reminders, worked. upgrade to 434 (from store) and it disappears
[18:06] * popey adds to the bug
[18:15] <popey> mzanetti: updated bug
[18:16] <popey> pmcgowan: so basically yes, on vivid, _any_ app update via the store, where the app has an online accounts plugin (reminders, untapped - dunno how many others? scopes?) the account will be deleted.
[18:16] <pmcgowan> sh*t
[18:16] <pmcgowan> popey, tagging it up
[18:16] <popey> So only affects apps which have an online account component where the user has logged in.
[18:16] <popey> It's an inconvenience.
[18:17] <popey> thanks
[18:18] <davmor2> pmcgowan: did this get fixed in rtm maybe the fix was never ported to vivid
[18:18] <davmor2> pmcgowan: we had it for the u1 account
[18:18] <popey> It certainly doesn't happen in RTM
[18:18] <popey> (now)
[18:19] <pmcgowan> davmor2, not sure
[18:20] <davmor2> popey: good catch though. we wouldn't of picked it up as we start from a fresh base and then install the stuff to test everytime. So the account was only created after the app was installed :(
[18:28] <om26er> pedronis, pinh
[18:28] <om26er> ping
[18:28] <om26er> pedronis, re: silo38 -- I am not sure if the proposed package really fixes the issue.
[18:40] <pedronis> om26er: do you still see the issue in the bug?
[18:40] <om26er> pedronis, yes, after clearing the messages, I quickly sent another email, after 15 minutes that email never showed up in notifications
[18:40] <om26er> pedronis, I did however see a later email
[18:44] <pedronis> om26er: did you restart ubuntu-push-client after installing (I'm not sure the package does that atm)
[18:44] <pedronis> ?
[18:44] <om26er> pedronis, i rebooted
[18:49] <pedronis> om26er: ok, I'm not sure what to do, either there is a bug in account-polld or the timing is such that is really an easy problem to trigger even with the fix and that means we need a better interface for this from the messaging-indicator
[18:52] <om26er> pedronis, :/
[18:53] <pedronis> om26er: and the client and account is moving to another team soon, so I won't work on it anymore, not sure if to revert the change (the change is better than before but may be useless) or we should land it anyway
[18:54] <pedronis> s/and account/and account-polld/
[19:02] <om26er> pedronis, it it didn't fix the bug, I don't think it makes sense to lad it
[19:03] <pedronis> om26er: ok, I will revert and it goes back to the todo list of who picks up the project
[19:13] <robru> kenvandine: around for a packaging ack? https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-013-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/unity-scopes-api_packaging_changes.diff/*view*/
[19:13] <kenvandine> robru, sure
[19:13] <robru> thanks
[19:14] <robru> alex-abreu: https://code.launchpad.net/~abreu-alexandre/webbrowser-app/saml-url-persistence/+merge/260248 need this top approved before I can publish
[19:14] <alex-abreu> robru, done
[19:15] <robru> alex-abreu: thanks
[19:15] <kenvandine> robru, the build depends change for g++ looks a little odd based on the comment that was there before
[19:15] <kenvandine> - g++-4.9:native,
[19:15] <kenvandine> + g++,
[19:15] <kenvandine> but
[19:16] <kenvandine> the fact that the comment was removed too, makes me think this was intentional
[19:16] <kenvandine> so... ack :)
[19:16] <robru> kenvandine: yeah that concerned me. but I mean, it's not like they changed that by accident right?
[19:16] <kenvandine> right
[19:16] <robru> kenvandine: k, thanks
[19:16] <kenvandine> so... ack
[19:16] <kenvandine> np
[19:19] <sil2100> ToyKeeper: hey! Are you around? :)
[19:20] <sil2100> jibel: hey, image 10 in -factory-proposed should have all the right changes
[19:30] <ToyKeeper> sil2100: Hmm?
[19:32] <ToyKeeper> I've got an appointment in a few minutes but should be around all day afterward...
[19:45] <pmcgowan> sil2100, finally?
[19:47] <sil2100> ToyKeeper: could you check image 10 from the ubuntu-rtm/14.09-factory-proposed channel?
[19:47] <sil2100> ToyKeeper: it's our new OTA-4 candidate, it basically only needs checking if MMS group chat is disabled by default and some hm, nuntium fix
[19:56] <sil2100> alesage: hey! :)
[19:56] <alesage> sil2100, hiya
[19:56] <sil2100> alesage: maybe you could help out as well with validating an image?
[19:56] <alesage> sil2100, ok what's needed?
[19:57] <sil2100> alesage: so, channel ubuntu-rtm/14.09-factory-proposed has a new release candidate for OTA-4
[19:57] <sil2100> alesage: davmor2 already tested image 9, but we missed a few fixes so I build image 10
[19:58] <sil2100> alesage: so, image 10 now needs to be checked if MMS group-chat is disabled by default and there's also fix for LP: #1459995
[19:59] <alesage> sil2100, ok acknowledged
[19:59] <sil2100> alesage: thank you! :)
[20:19] <robru> mzanetti: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-018-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/indicator-network_packaging_changes.diff/*view*/ hm? why are you dropping the dep on unity8?
[20:20] <robru> mzanetti: oh is it cyclic?
[20:23] <mzanetti> robru, there's a circular dependency between this and unity8
[20:23] <robru> mzanetti: ok
[23:17] * ToyKeeper wonders if image 10 still needs validation
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-si
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[05:08] <napsy> jutro
[06:45] <dz0ny> dan
[06:45] <zdobbie> drama!
[06:45] <zdobbie> DRAMA!
[06:46] <idioterna> a mas abonma
[06:46] <idioterna> kva je z US
[06:47] <idioterna> nc niso odlocil
[06:49] <zdobersek> sej nimajo kej za odlocat
[06:56] <slax0r> jutro
[06:59] <napsy> lp
[07:01] <zdobersek> DRAMA https://www.reddit.com/r/all
[07:01] <Seniorita> all subreddits
[07:01] <Seniorita> »reddit: the front page of the internet«
[07:02] <zdobersek> recap at https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/
[07:02] <Seniorita> Bring your popcorn (.gifs)
[07:02] <Seniorita> »The place where people can come and talk about internet fights and other dramatic happenings from other subreddits.«
[08:03] <CrazyLemon> .rt
[08:03] <CrazyLemon> meh
[08:03] <CrazyLemon> t-2 again?
[08:05] <idioterna> https://bou.si/pic/nov-telefon.jpg
[08:05] <idioterna> https://bou.si/pic/amazing-notice.jpg
[08:07] <CrazyLemon> kr povej da si hotel pokazat dres
[08:07] <idioterna> hm?
[08:07] <idioterna> ta dres je pa res _old_
[08:08] <idioterna> pa kr dobr sesut ze
[08:08] <idioterna> https://bou.si/pic/swollen-shoulder.jpg
[08:08] <idioterna> k sm se povalu po cesti v njem :)
[08:36] <zdobbie> Le manta
[08:48] <CrazyLemon> .morje
[08:48] <jabuk> Postaja Debeli Rtič (Zora) - Jadransko morje: 22.2°C
[08:48] <jabuk> Postaja OB Piran (NIB) - Jadransko morje: 21.9°C
[08:48] <jabuk> Postaja Koper - kapitanija - Jadransko morje: 21.2°C
[09:29] <napsy> http://i.imgur.com/oyU18x3.jpg
[09:29] <napsy> lol :)
[09:30] <idioterna> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/493585278/origo-boat-foldable-easy-to-transport-eco-friendly
[09:30] <Seniorita> ORIGO Boat - foldable, easy to transport, eco friendly boat. by ORIGO Team — Kickstarter
[09:30] <Seniorita> »Foldable, eco friendly boat, that is very easy to transport and store. It is unsinkable and you won't have to worry about docking fees.«
[09:31] <napsy> zanimiv
[09:58] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek neki zate https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2324
[09:58] <Seniorita> RFC 2324 - Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol (HTCPCP/1.0)
[10:12] <siska> ha :)
[10:14] <CrazyLemon> lol
[10:14] <lynxlynxlynx> napsy: končno en praktičen proizvod :)
[10:14] <lynxlynxlynx> sam tale "eco-friendly" je mal za lase privlečen
[10:18] <napsy> nevm
[11:53] <zdobersek> dons sem pa nasu svoj Colle delle Finestre
[11:53] <Seniorita> [Web Upd8] Andrew: Workarounds For Not Being Able to Mount The Windows 8 Partition In Linux Due to Hibernation http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webupd8/~3/_2qZJ15izHM/workarounds-for-not-being-able-to-mount.html
[11:57] <zdobersek> http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/jun/11/christopher-lee-dies-at-the-age-of-93-dracula :|
[11:57] <Seniorita> Christopher Lee dies at the age of 93 | Film | The Guardian
[11:57] <Seniorita> »The veteran actor was best known for roles including Dracula and Saruman in the Lord of the Rings franchise«
[12:43] <Seniorita> [Web Upd8] Andrew: Get New Wine Features Faster With `Wine Staging` [PPA] http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webupd8/~3/5kjGOV8B_4I/get-new-wine-features-faster-with-wine.html
[13:15] <CrazyLemon> .morje
[13:15] <jabuk> Postaja Koper - kapitanija - Jadransko morje: 23.0°C
[13:15] <jabuk> Postaja Debeli Rtič (Zora) - Jadransko morje: 23.0°C
[13:15] <jabuk> Postaja OB Piran (NIB) - Jadransko morje: 23.6°C
[13:15] <zdobbie> morje odteklo!
[13:15] <CrazyLemon> shut your piehole!
[13:24] <idioterna> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvKRbi2ovDY
[13:24] <Seniorita> Christopher Lee: "The Bloody Verdict of Verden" Music Video - YouTube
[13:24] <Seniorita> »Music video of the song "The Bloody Verdict of Verden", aka "The Blood of the Saxon Men" belonging to the album "Charlemagne: By the Sword and the Cross" (20...«
[13:26] <CrazyLemon> .radar
[13:26] <jabuk> Radarska slika padavin: http://www.arso.gov.si/vreme/napovedi%20in%20podatki/radar_anim.gif
[13:27] <zdobbie> pray, and your sea will be replenished!
[13:28] <zdobersek> /pray
[13:28] <idioterna> your radar
[13:28] <idioterna> you need to replenish your radar
[13:30] <zdobersek> IT LIVES
[13:30] <zdobersek> IT DIES
[13:30] <zdobersek> IT LIVES AGAIN
[13:38] <idioterna> interesting
[13:38] <idioterna> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pornhub-space-program-sexploration
[13:38] <Seniorita> Pornhub Space Program - SEXPLORATION | Indiegogo
[13:38] <Seniorita> »Help us make the first sex tape in space!«
[13:42] <CrazyLemon> yup
[13:42] <CrazyLemon> 3.4mio
[13:42] <idioterna> pa https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150608/05451031270/sun-owning-lady-sues-ebay-because-they-wouldnt-let-her-sell-plots-land-her-sun.shtml mi je tut vsec
[13:42] <idioterna> sm mogu kr comment napisat
[13:42] <Seniorita> Sun-Owning Lady Sues eBay Because They Wouldn't Let Her Sell 'Plots' Of 'Land' On 'Her' Sun | Techdirt
[13:42] <Seniorita> »Techdirt readers with a good memory may recall that back in 2010 a Spanish woman with entirely too much time on her hands claimed to have found a legal loophole that allowed her to register her ownership of the sun. Yes, the sun. You know, Sol, that...«
[13:50] <zdobersek> Sun the Star?
[13:50] <zdobersek> Sun the Star
[13:50] <zdobersek> .yt yeah yeah yeahs despair
[13:50] <jabuk> Yeah Yeah Yeahs - "Despair" (Official Video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvrjn_pF9tY
[13:50] <zdobersek> MY SUN IS YOUR SUN
[14:44] <CrazyLemon> Spoštovani!
[14:44] <CrazyLemon>
[14:44] <CrazyLemon> Obveščamo vas, da poskus vaše odjave ni uspel.
[14:44] <CrazyLemon> wtf mercator
[14:45] <zdobersek> .yt stay with me
[14:45] <jabuk> Sam Smith - Stay With Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB-5XG-DbAA
[14:45] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: ^
[14:47] <msevph> Lol
[14:48] <zdobersek> Ivica te ne da
[14:55] <zdobersek> prekleti kolesarji http://www.24ur.com/novice/slovenija/ta-vikend-ohranite-mirne-zivce-zaradi-kolesarskega-maratona-bodo-stevilne-ceste-po-ljubljani-vec-ur-zaprte.html
[14:55] <Seniorita> 24ur.com - Ta vikend ohranite mirne živce. Zaradi kolesarskega maratona bodo številne ceste po Ljubljani več ur zaprte
[14:55] <Seniorita> »V prestolnici bodo tudi ta vikend kolesarji glavni na cestah. Zaradi kolesarskega maratona Franja pa bodo zaprli nekatere ceste. Obvoze bodo imeli tudi mestni avtobusi. Zato je dobro, da preverite stanje na cestah, preden se ta vikend odpravite v ali iz Ljubljane.«
[14:57] <Matthai> biciklistični teroristi bodo zavzeli mesto in izvajali teror nad nedolžnimi prebivalci najlepšega mesta na svetu!
[14:57] <Matthai> :-)
[14:59] <idioterna> mhm
[16:16] <upd> se res še ta maraton
[16:23] <zdobersek> a n
[16:52] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny a imaš kje na githubu te mu-plugins za wordpress?
[18:21] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu Security] USN-2639-1: OpenSSL vulnerabilities http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2639-1/
[18:25] <CrazyLemon> again??
[18:25] <CrazyLemon> c'mon openssl
[18:30] <idioterna> kko misls to again
[18:30] <idioterna> še vedno.
[19:04] <zdobbie> it's perpetual, innit
[19:07] <CrazyLemon> idioterna kako misliš še vedno
[19:14] <zdobbie> like it's not done yet
[19:15] <idioterna> ja sej se ni noben pometu
[19:15] <idioterna> po libraryju
[19:15] <idioterna> uni libressl guys na polno pometajo
[19:18] <zdobersek> a bomo zariftal
[19:44] <dz0ny> http://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=ICERKNIC3#history
[19:44] <Seniorita> Babno Polje Weather | Personal Weather Station: ICERKNIC3 by Wunderground.com | Weather Underground
[19:44] <Seniorita> »Weather Underground provides local & long range Weather Forecast, weather reports, maps & tropical weather conditions for locations worldwide.«
[19:44] <CrazyLemon> ubuntu.si 2.0 is up
[19:45] <dz0ny> Iščete lahko tako krajevne programe, videe, glasbo, slike kot tudi spletne. ?
[19:45] <dz0ny> spletne koda?
[19:46] <CrazyLemon> wat?
[19:46] <CrazyLemon> spletne programe,videe, glasbo, slike
[19:46] <CrazyLemon> ne bom dvakrat našteval ane
[19:46] <CrazyLemon> se navezuje :)
[19:46] <dz0ny> " tudi spletne."
[19:46] <dz0ny> spletne strani
[19:46] <dz0ny> spletne vire
[19:47] <CrazyLemon> <CrazyLemon>: spletne programe,videe, glasbo, slike
[19:48] <R33D3M33R> a bot ne pobira več novosti iz foruma?
[19:48] <CrazyLemon> R33D3M33R zamenjali smo forum
[19:48] <CrazyLemon> torej rss feed naslov se je zamenjal
[19:48] <CrazyLemon> miha pa nima časa ker osvaja sašo
[19:48] <CrazyLemon> +posodobit
[19:49] <R33D3M33R> aha, torej bota je treba posodobiti?
[19:50] <zdobbie> nekdanji sodelujoc \o/
[19:50] <CrazyLemon> R33D3M33R Seniorita ja
[19:51] <zdobbie> nekdanji :|
[19:52] <zdobbie> zdej sem pa moralna antipodpora
[19:54] <R33D3M33R> prevajaj pa te damo nazaj :)
[20:11] <CrazyLemon> haha
[20:11] <CrazyLemon> good one R33D3M33R
[20:11] <CrazyLemon> :>
[20:21] <zdobbie> haha
[20:21] <zdobbie> ha
[20:21] <CrazyLemon> funny isnt it
[20:34] <zdobbie> it isnt funny
[20:35] <zdobbie> /ragequit
[20:49] <R33D3M33R> dz0ny: popravljeno
[21:54] <idioterna> http://istodaythedaymartymcflyarriveswhenhetravelstothefuture.com/
[21:54] <Seniorita> Is today the Day Marty McFly arrives when he travels to the future?
[21:57] <upd> heh
[21:58] <upd> http://www.uradni-list.si/1/content?id=102412 berem zakone
[21:58] <Seniorita> Uradni list Republike Slovenije
[21:58] <Seniorita> »Uradni list Republike Slovenije«
[21:58] <upd> bi naredil bitcoin lotter :p
[21:58] <upd> y
[22:02] <upd> sem mislil da eurojackpot ne deluje pod temi pravili, pa ga ima loterija slovenije čez
[22:34] <CrazyLemon> http://www.rtvslo.si/zabava/zanimivosti/slovenija-dobiva-prvi-portal-za-samske-katolicane/367316
[22:34] <Seniorita> Slovenija dobiva prvi portal za samske katoličane :: Prvi interaktivni multimedijski portal, MMC RTV Slovenija
[22:34] <Seniorita> »Da bi se ljudje laže spoznali in našli sorodno dušo, bo ta konec tedna tudi ob podpori nekaterih škofov začel delovati prvi portal za samske katoličane pri nas.«
[22:34] <CrazyLemon> "voditeljica skupine za samske Novo Upanje"
[22:35] <CrazyLemon> loool!
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"Matthai",
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"msevph",
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-africa
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[05:42] <ariabbas> .
[07:05] <Kilos> morning africa
[07:06] <Kilos> hi ariabbas thanks for joining our mailing list
[07:20] <Kilos> hi elacheche
[07:20] <Kilos> you and your messages in irc
[07:21] <Kilos> you must use QA its easier for both of us
[07:21] <Kilos> QA tell elacheche QA is here for messages and meeting minutes etc
[07:21] <QA> Kilos: Righto, I'll tell elacheche on freenode
[08:10] <elacheche> Hey Kilos !
[08:10] <QA> elacheche: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell elacheche QA is here for messages and meeting minutes etc" 48 minutes and 48 seconds ago
[08:10] <elacheche> OK QA & Kilos x) :D
[08:10] <Kilos> see
[08:11] <elacheche> What's wrong with luna Kilos ?
[08:11] <Kilos> she works kiff, we tested her last night
[08:11] <Kilos> she is offline again elacheche
[08:12] <elacheche> o_O
[08:12] <Kilos> laziness is a big thing in tunisia i see
[08:12] <Kilos> energy food is the answer
[08:14] <elacheche> hahahaha :D :D You better tell here that by yourself :) :D I work 30min from home, so when I go home I still have some energy to do some stuff.. She works 2hours from home with our shitty transportation systems, when she's home she's totally exhausted..
[08:14] <Kilos> oh my
[08:16] <elacheche> :)
[08:17] <Kilos> also fitness helps
[08:17] <Kilos> you two should have a job daily
[08:17] <Kilos> jog
[08:19] <Kilos> QA seen lunapersa
[08:19] <QA> Kilos: lunapersa was last seen 1 day, 9 minutes and 32 seconds ago in #ubuntu-africa on freenode [2015-06-10 08:10:03 UTC], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-06-10 16:34:01 UTC
[08:19] <elacheche> BTW, we work in the same building :) :D
[08:19] <Kilos> lol
[08:20] <elacheche> I'm trying to get the habit of jogging soon..
[08:20] <elacheche> I'm really aware that I need to move my a** out this chair and workout, otherwise am slowly killing myself :(
[08:23] <Kilos> yeah
[08:23] <Kilos> do you people swim there
[08:24] <Kilos> swimming is the best excercise
[08:24] <Kilos> and breathing properly
[08:25] <elacheche> Yea of course.. :) :D
[08:25] <elacheche> We live in the coast :)
[08:25] <Kilos> then good to have a daily swim
[08:28] <Kilos> better than jogging imo, but doing both is even better
[08:29] <elacheche> :D
[08:36] <Kilos> how old are you elacheche ?
[08:36] <Kilos> how young
[08:39] <elacheche> almost 26 Kilos :)
[08:40] <Kilos> nice, i was jobbing 5 ks and swimming 1k at that age
[08:40] <Kilos> hi lin
[08:40] <lin> Hey Kilos
[08:42] <elacheche> That inspires me :)
[08:42] <Kilos> good
[08:42] <Kilos> but tbh i was also surf lifesaving then
[08:43] <Kilos> so fitness was a must
[08:48] <elacheche> :)
[08:48] <elacheche> I need to save my own live as well
[08:50] <Kilos> haha
[09:24] <Kilos> lin have you joined our mailing list?
[09:24] <lin> ummmm...
[09:24] <lin> not sure...
[09:24] <Kilos> you can get to it from http://ubuntu-africa.info
[09:31] <lin> hmm...no info on the ML on that site
[09:33] <Kilos> where it says join us
[09:38] <Kilos> im looking but cant find it either, will try get you an easier way
[09:38] <Kilos> elacheche ping
[09:39] <Kilos> lin https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa
[09:40] <Kilos> there should be a join buttom here i think
[09:42] <lin> All done.
[09:42] <lin> kthnxs
[09:42] <elacheche> pong Kilos
[09:42] <elacheche> Kilos, do we have a mailing list? :D x( x)
[09:43] <lin> lol
[09:44] <elacheche> Ah Kilos :D I'm already subscribed :D But we have so much activiy so I can't keep syncronized with it :D :p
[09:44] <Kilos> yes man
[09:44] <Kilos> i forgot how to get to it
[09:44] <Kilos> i thought it showed on the site
[09:45] <Kilos> as soon as you over your fast period we can start to get things moving
[09:45] <Kilos> and plan our first meeting etc
[09:46] <Kilos> get luna to join the mailing list as well, and neo
[09:48] <Kilos> ah lin was that you?
[09:49] <Kilos> dennis?
[09:51] <lin> Yes
[09:51] <lin> That was me..
[09:51] <Kilos> cool
[09:51] <lin> d000d
[09:52] <Kilos> i think we did the mailing list after building the site , so we need to still sort that out
[09:57] <Kilos> elacheche dont flood freenode man
[09:58] <elacheche> Internet problems Kilos :(
[09:59] <Kilos> lol
[10:01] <Kilos> lunapersa welcome back
[10:01] <lunapersa> hello Kilos
[10:01] <lunapersa> i'm @ work now :D
[10:02] <Kilos> lunapersa yeah shame. when you have time will you join our mailing list please
[10:02] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa
[10:03] <elacheche> Kilos, she's here :) tell her all that you want to :)
[10:04] <elacheche> inetpro, you too x)
[10:04] <Kilos> haha
[10:04] <Kilos> lunapersa i have been told to advise you to eat energy food and do some swimming and jogging
[10:06] <lunapersa> :D
[10:11] <lunapersa> hey Kilos what's the lastest news
[10:12] <Kilos> not much new here except elacheche is trying to get someone else to sort a map, so he can rest more
[10:13] <Kilos> he gets very lazy at times, i was hoping you can rev him up a bit
[10:13] <elacheche> l00000l Kilos :D
[10:13] <Kilos> lol
[10:14] <elacheche> Am just trying to make that boy more involved :) After this weekend I'll start working on it and hacking the scripts :) → I have a last exam this Sunday so I need to focus on it :p :)
[10:15] <Kilos> no rush elacheche do your important things first
[10:15] <Kilos> and good luck with the exam
[10:16] <elacheche> Thanks.. what's exactly I'll need for that special exam.. Luck :D
[10:16] <Kilos> no man
[10:16] <Kilos> preparation
[10:18] <elacheche> Yeah that's too :D But luck is the most important thing :D I was so prepared last semester for the same exam by the same teacher.. I got 8/20.. I had one of the highest marques in my class x)
[10:18] <elacheche> They think that ma genius because I got that 8 x(
[10:30] <Kilos> eish, prepare even better man. 18/20 is better
[10:32] <elacheche> :)
[10:37] <Kilos> you only get out what you put in
[10:37] <Kilos> so go for it full steam
[12:57] <elacheche> O/ again
[14:04] <elacheche> QA
[14:04] <elacheche> QA help
[14:04] <QA> elacheche: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff.
[14:04] <QA> Ask me "help me with ..." for more details.
[14:04] <elacheche> QA help me with delivering messages
[14:04] <QA> elacheche: I use the following features for delivering messages: memo, remind and summon
[14:04] <QA> Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details.
[14:05] <elacheche> QA, how do I use memo
[14:05] <QA> elacheche: Keeps messages for people. You can use it like this:
[14:05] <QA> my messages
[14:05] <QA> message <number>
[14:05] <QA> my messages for <person> [on <source>]
[14:05] <QA> (tell|pm|privmsg|msg|ask) <person> [on <source>] <message>
[14:05] <QA> forget my (first|last|<n>th) message for <person> [on <source>]
[14:05] <elacheche> QA, tell kilos take a look at this dude → http://senseopenness.com/membership-board-member-interviews-chris-wayne/
[14:05] <QA> elacheche: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[14:22] <Kilos> im back elacheche
[14:23] <Kilos> who is that chris guy, have we seen him in the board meets
[14:23] <elacheche> Yep :) He was there :)
[14:23] <Kilos> whats hi nick?
[14:23] <Kilos> his
[14:24] <elacheche> cwayne
[14:24] <Kilos> oh yeah cool
[14:26] <elacheche> :)
[14:29] <Kilos> elacheche how come his interview thing got to that link?
[14:33] <elacheche> That's belkinsa's blog :)
[14:33] <Kilos> aha
[14:34] <Kilos> is she going to put all of ours there too?
[14:34] <elacheche> I guess so
[14:34] <Kilos> cool
[14:34] <Kilos> i should have embellished more on mine
[14:35] <elacheche> You should do the same for AFRICA
[14:35] <Kilos> my future contribution should be , to keep nagging everyone to do better
[14:35] <elacheche> You should publish Ubuntu Africa interviews in you blog!
[14:35] <Kilos> nono you do it
[14:35] <Kilos> you you you
[14:36] <Kilos> ill ask luna to help you
[14:36] <Kilos> hee hee
[14:36] <elacheche> l0000l
[14:36] <elacheche> I'll do that for my LoCo
[14:36] <Kilos> what loco
[14:36] <Kilos> 3 peeps
[14:37] <elacheche> Nope.. We ahave some historical members :)
[14:37] <elacheche> Don't underestimate us :) :D
[14:37] <Kilos> are they still active?
[14:38] <Kilos> i want to see a loco like you see in za
[14:38] <elacheche> No, but am plannign to get them back :)
[14:38] <Kilos> hahaha
[14:39] <Kilos> tell them to come meet the crazy za guy
[14:39] <elacheche> :D :D
[14:40] <elacheche> If one day our "father" will be online I'll ask him to come here.. He's busy running an association about Free Culture (including FOSS)
[14:40] <Kilos> ok
[14:41] <Kilos> mail them all, peeps always read their mails
[14:41] <Kilos> when is your fast over?
[14:41] <Kilos> so we can organise a meeting
[14:41] <Kilos> luna can be chair
[14:43] <elacheche> by mid-July
[14:43] <Kilos> whew
[14:43] <Kilos> thats long
[14:43] <elacheche> it starts next week.. It's just 1 month :)
[14:45] <Kilos> maye after that forget coffee all together and drink fruit juice and/water
[14:46] <Kilos> you get addicted to cafeine too easy
[14:47] <elacheche> l0000000000l.. It's in my blood :D
[14:47] <elacheche> lunapersa, can confirm that x)
[14:49] <Kilos> cut down man, if your brain goes weak without coffee thats a bad sign
[14:50] <elacheche> x(
[14:51] <elacheche> Coffee is my energy drink
[14:51] <lunapersa> yes :(
[14:53] <Kilos> hi philipballew
[14:55] <lunapersa> elacheche drinks a lot of coffee all day :( :(
[14:55] <Kilos> stop him lunapersa
[14:55] <Kilos> we cant still battle with a coffee addict as well
[14:56] <lunapersa> i can't
[14:56] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:56] <elacheche> hahahaha :D
[14:56] <lunapersa> he becomes more ..
[14:56] <Kilos> just tell him if he smells of coffee he cant kiss you, he will soon stop
[14:57] <lunapersa> without it
[14:57] <elacheche> .-~~-.
[14:57] <elacheche> ,|`-__-'|
[14:57] <elacheche> || |
[14:57] <elacheche> `| | Double Espresso
[14:57] <elacheche> `-__-'
[14:57] <Kilos> lol
[14:57] <elacheche> l00000000000l Kilos x( she loves coffee too :p
[14:58] <Kilos> hahaha
[14:58] <Kilos> oh my
[14:58] <Kilos> 2 addicts
[14:58] <Kilos> i also love coffee but go months without any
[14:59] <elacheche> You're addicted to tea :D
[15:00] <Kilos> yes but ive stopped adding milk for 3 months now, and cut sugar in half
[15:00] <elacheche> Cool :D
[15:01] <lunapersa> hahahaha
[15:11] <Kilos> lunapersa have you joined our mailing list yet?
[15:12] <Kilos> you can also join Benno-007
[15:12] <Kilos> and philipballew
[15:13] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa
[15:13] <philipballew> hey Kilos
[15:14] <Kilos> oh hi cyrilb you cant also join our list
[15:14] <Kilos> can sorry
[15:27] <cyrilb> Oh
[15:28] <cyrilb> Where?
[15:28] <elacheche> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa
[20:54] <elacheche_anis> o/
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-us-fl
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[00:03] <Nothing_Much> guess he's screwed by the hotel
[02:37] <ahoneybun> yay ssh tunnels!
[06:57] <Nothing_Much> ahoneybun, are you sleeping yet?
[13:02] <ahoneybun> balloons: ping
[14:54] <balloons> ahoneybun, pong
[14:54] <ahoneybun> going to be at SELF balloons?
[14:55] <balloons> ahoneybun, I'm not actually. I had planned on it, but plans change
[14:55] <balloons> you?
[14:55] <ahoneybun> we drove by Jax
[14:55] <ahoneybun> me and KeithIMyers__ are in NC for it
[14:56] <balloons> yea, I'm not exactly on the way.
[14:56] <balloons> ahh nice, you came with Keith, awesome
[14:56] <balloons> have a blast!
[14:56] <ahoneybun> balloons: we were joking about picking you up
[14:56] <balloons> just a 2 hour detour, you could have :p
[14:57] <ahoneybun> well you would not get on Hangouts!
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"channel": "#ubuntu-us-fl"
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2015-06-11-#juju-dev
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[00:42] <davecheney> thumper: thats most of the fix
[00:42] <davecheney> there is still another place they need to put a mutex, in _loopWorker or whatever it's called
[01:17] <cherylj> I think this bootstack bug #1463480 might be a dup of bug #1416928. Can anyone take a look and sanity check for me?
[01:17] <mup> Bug #1463480: Failed upgrade, mixed up HA addresses <blocker> <canonical-bootstack> <ha> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.22:In Progress by cherylj> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1463480>
[01:17] <mup> Bug #1416928: juju agent using lxcbr0 address as apiaddress instead of juju-br0 breaks agents <api> <lxc> <network> <juju-core:Fix Released by dooferlad> <juju-core 1.21:Fix Released by dimitern> <juju-core 1.22:Fix Released by dooferlad> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1416928>
[01:37] <waigani> wallyworld: PR for #1447899 https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1447899 I assume we'll also want to target 1.22?
[01:37] <mup> Bug #1447899: upgrade fails if no explicit version is specified <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:In Progress by waigani> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447899>
[01:37] <wallyworld> waigani: um, we do have a window for 1.22.6 fixes. i don't know that this bug is worth backporting though
[01:38] <waigani> wallyworld: okay, that PR targets 1.25 - as specified by the bug report
[01:38] <wallyworld> sounds good ty
[02:53] <axw> waigani: have you tested that tools upgrade fix live?
[02:54] <waigani> axw: yes, sorry forgot to put that in the PR
[02:54] <waigani> axw: tested on aws
[02:54] <waigani> axw: ec2 provider
[02:54] <axw> waigani: nps, thanks. LGTM
[02:54] <waigani> axw: used same versions as in original bug
[02:54] <axw> cool
[02:54] <waigani> axw: awesome, thanks
[02:56] <davecheney> thumper: panic: rescanned document misses transaction in queue
[02:56] <davecheney> goroutine 189 [running]:
[02:56] <davecheney> runtime.panic(0xe6fa60, 0xc210b9e990) /usr/lib/go/src/pkg/runtime/panic.c:266 +0xb6
[02:56] <davecheney> your build just failed with this error
[02:56] <davecheney> menn0: this looks very serious
[02:56] <thumper> ?!
[02:57] <axw> waigani: with forward/back ports, I don't normally wait for LGTM unless there were significant merge differences/conflicts
[02:57] <thumper> davecheney: I think this is what William has been looking at fixing recently
[02:58] <waigani> axw: yep, same. It just automatically pops up in RB. I usually close them straight away.
[02:58] <menn0> davecheney: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1449054
[02:58] <mup> Bug #1449054: Intermittent panic: rescanned document <ci> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged by fwereade> <juju-core 1.22:Fix Released by dimitern> <juju-core 1.23:Won't Fix by fwereade> <juju-core 1.24:Fix Released by fwereade> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1449054>
[02:59] <axw> waigani: okey dokey, just thought I'd mention in case you were waiting around
[02:59] <axw> ship-it'd anyway
[02:59] <menn0> davecheney: looks like it's been fixed in 1.22, 1.23 and 1.24 but not master
[02:59] <menn0> actually, not 1.23
[02:59] <menn0> it's probably just a matter of bumping the mgo version but it hasn't been done for some reason
[03:00] <waigani> axw: sweet, cheers
[03:04] <davecheney> waigani: are there any details for this bug ? https://canonical.leankit.com/Boards/View/115065967/115396849
[03:05] <waigani> davecheney: only happens on my machine. Let me write you an email with details.
[03:06] <davecheney> ok
[03:13] <natefinch> davecheney, wallyworld: this was the talk I was thinking of. The whole thing is very good, but the link brings you to a 2 minute section where he talks about not using assert libraries for testing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi5A3cK1LNA&t=9m40s
[03:23] <natefinch> wallyworld, davecheney: here's a test file for a package I wrote recently with tests just using the stdlib's testing package. https://github.com/natefinch/pie/blob/master/pie_test.go I don't think it's terribly more verbose than using gocheck.
[03:23] <wallyworld> natefinch: it's terrible IMO :-) all those it statements when a sinlge line asset will do
[03:24] <wallyworld> 3 lines of syntax vs 1
[03:24] <wallyworld> and no tooling for things like deep equals, err nil, length checks etc
[03:25] <natefinch> If statements... yeah, those are rough
[03:26] <natefinch> expecially simple ones like if len(a) != expected {
[03:26] <wallyworld> boilerplate
[03:27] <wallyworld> and you've only done simple checks so far
[03:27] <wallyworld> wait till you need to do deep equas, or same contents etc etc
[03:28] <natefinch> wallyworld: sure, some helper functions can help... but you don't need thousands of lines of code just to avoid writing an if statement.... line returns aren't harder to type than other characters
[03:28] <wallyworld> you're missing the point - frameworks do more than just eliminate lots of boilerplate
[03:28] <natefinch> wallyworld: and honestly, most of my gocheck code looks just like these tests. I really try hard to make tests simple
[03:28] <wallyworld> they ensure consistency and common patterns across the code base
[03:32] <davecheney> natefinch: wallyworld leave me out of this
[03:33] <natefinch> davecheney: heh will do
[03:33] <davecheney> i don't want to start a land war in asia
[03:33] <davecheney> all I want is gocheck to be maintained
[03:33] <wallyworld> +1
[04:46] <thumper> wallyworld,axw: ping
[04:46] <wallyworld> wot
[04:46] <thumper> looking at fixing the help command
[04:46] <wallyworld> \o/
[04:46] <thumper> so we can go:
[04:46] <thumper> juju help system environmenst
[04:46] <thumper> and not have to put the help in the middle
[04:46] <wallyworld> -e as well?
[04:46] <thumper> however, storage is doing weird shit
[04:47] <thumper> -e is harder and out of scope from this change
[04:47] <wallyworld> storage is 3 levels
[04:47] <thumper> why do you have your own Command struct in storage for the super command
[04:47] <thumper> that doesn't matter
[04:47] <thumper> by wrapping it in another struct
[04:47] <thumper> it means I can't go:
[04:47] <wallyworld> i can't give you a good answer off hand
[04:47] <thumper> juju help storage pool
[04:48] <thumper> I may just throw that piece away and remove a level of indirection
[04:48] <thumper> I think it'll still work as expected
[04:48] <wallyworld> let me go look at the code real quick
[04:49] <wallyworld> thumper: yeah, i have NFI, that doesn't make sense why it was done
[04:49] <wallyworld> remove it i say
[04:49] <thumper> ok, I'll do that in my branch
[04:49] <wallyworld> ty
[04:52] <thumper> yep, still works
[05:44] <wallyworld> axw: would it make sense for resource-get to send its streamed resource data to its stdout and the charm which invoked the get can then suck on stdout to consume? or redirect to file or pipe elsewhere or whatever
[05:44] <axw> wallyworld: yes, that's what I was thinking
[05:45] <axw> wallyworld: so you can "resource-get thingy | my-fancy-stream-processing-program" or whatever
[05:45] <wallyworld> axw: the reason i initially went with an option for consuming the data in the hook was convenience
[05:45] <wallyworld> yep
[05:45] <axw> wallyworld: consuming the data?
[05:45] <axw> wallyworld: you mean unpacking onto disk?
[05:45] <wallyworld> save the charm author from having then to invoke the hook tool
[05:45] <axw> or installing deb or whatever
[05:45] <wallyworld> yeah, consume the data
[05:46] <axw> wallyworld: yes, that's probably the common scenario, so we should have that as an option/probably default
[05:46] <wallyworld> ok, will add it back
[05:46] <wallyworld> i still think we'll need to introduce a usage-type
[05:46] <axw> wallyworld: sorry, I didn't realise you took it out in favour of this
[05:46] <wallyworld> np :-)
[05:47] <axw> wallyworld: I was thinking it'd be a property of the resource type. is that conflating?
[05:48] <wallyworld> axw: yeah, because some charms will want to just get the deb or zip as a file, others would want to unit agent to install or unpack say
[05:48] <wallyworld> IMO
[05:49] <wallyworld> so having a separate usage-type attribute allows the charm to say it wants not just the file, but some type specific post processing
[05:49] <axw> wallyworld: the reason that feels awkward to me, is that what you do with the resource depends on the type of the resource. and the type of the resource may change depending on how you deploy the service, right?
[05:50] <axw> wallyworld: e.g. I might deploy with a deb to install mysql, or with a github repo that's my fork of mysql
[05:50] <axw> wallyworld: so what does the usage type mean in that case?
[05:50] <wallyworld> they would be different types though , right?
[05:51] <wallyworld> this is hard to discuss here, let's defer to tomorrow in 1:1
[05:51] <axw> wallyworld: sure :)
[07:19] <davecheney> // TODO(rog) Fix this so it doesn't wait for so long.
[07:19] <davecheney> // https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1163983
[07:19] <davecheney> c.Fatalf("timed out waiting for agent to terminate")
[07:19] <davecheney> ... Error: timed out waiting for agent to terminate
[07:19] <mup> Bug #1163983: some tests take an unnecessarily long time waiting for the poll interval <performance> <tech-debt> <testing> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1163983>
[07:19] <davecheney> .... seriously
[08:31] <TheMue> dimitern: ping
[08:36] <dimitern> TheMue, pong
[08:37] <TheMue> dimitern: one question regarding IPAddress() and the address type
[08:37] <TheMue> dimitern: in state
[08:37] <dimitern> TheMue, yeah?
[08:38] <TheMue> dimitern: the signature is IPAddress(value string) ... and here value is taken as the docID. but the returned address type itself has also a field called Value containing the IP-Address. how they all are related?
[08:39] <TheMue> dimitern: does the docID contain the same value as Value and only exists for database reasons?
[08:40] <TheMue> dimitern: oh, and yes, params.Address contains Value as field (a string) but no ID. ?!?
[08:40] <dimitern> TheMue, the docID should contain the environment UUID as prefix to the address value
[08:43] <TheMue> dimitern: hmm, ok, so when retrieving the IP addresses via the API I only have the value, which doesn't allows me to retrieve the IP addresses again (as state instances) for later removal.
[08:44] <TheMue> dimitern: any troubles with extending the params.Address with the ID?
[08:44] <TheMue> *aaaargh*
[08:44] * TheMue doesn't cry due to addresses
[08:45] <TheMue> thought I could stay on the veranda, but left hand a lawn mower and right hand craftsmen building on a house
[08:45] <TheMue> too much noise *grmblx*
[08:57] <dimitern> TheMue, the env uuid is automatically prepended to the id you pass
[08:57] <dimitern> TheMue, so you don't need anything else than the value
[08:58] <voidspace> if you use full disk encryption then ubuntu creates an unecrypted /boot partition where the linux image lives
[08:59] <voidspace> it makes it 237Mb - so when an update includes a new image (leaving the current one there too, plus any old ones which aren't auto un-installed)
[08:59] <voidspace> it fills up!
[08:59] <voidspace> every other time an update includes an updated image I have to do surgery on /boot
[09:00] <voidspace> and because the other partition is encrypted resizing partitions is non-trivial (can be done by booting a live-cd which I'll do at some point)
[09:00] <voidspace> *sigh*
[09:00] <TheMue> dimitern: great
[09:00] <voidspace> and due to the bug with plymouth after an upgrade (when you have an encrypted filesystem) I'm still doing a recovery boot every time
[09:01] <dimitern> jam, voidspace, dooferlad, standup?
[09:01] <voidspace> dimitern: omw
[09:01] <jam> dimitern: currently with mark, I'll be late if I'm there
[09:04] <dimitern> jam, np, sure
[09:20] <voidspace> dimitern: we could then filter juju-private from status if necessary
[09:21] * dimitern steps out for a short while
[09:21] <dimitern> voidspace, if we need to, yes
[09:22] <dimitern> voidspace, TheMue, dooferlad, I'd appreciate a review on http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1918/
[09:22] <TheMue> dimitern: just seen it
[09:23] <voidspace> dimitern: although this is putting workarounds in place for code that only has imaginery future use cases... *sigh*
[09:25] <jam> fwereade: I have a relation-get question for you when you have time
[09:25] <jam> wallyworld: when you are back, we did spend about 10min on resources, and there was a pretty big thing to consider
[09:29] <voidspace> dimitern: hmmm... a network *also* requires a ProviderId
[09:30] <voidspace> dimitern: ok to allow that to be empty? They're supposed to be unique per provider I guess.
[09:32] <voidspace> dimitern: yeah, there's an index on provider id
[09:32] <voidspace> unique index
[09:36] <voidspace> dimitern: what we *want* here is an interface that isn't associated with a provider network (except maybe the default one)
[09:36] <voidspace> dimitern: we need to be clear about our model though
[09:46] <voidspace> dimitern: so we either need to model the provider network that the nic is associated with *or* we need interfaces not associated with a network
[09:46] <voidspace> dimitern: the latter seems easier at this stage
[09:57] <voidspace> dimitern: or we could make provider id a sparse index I guess...
[09:58] <voidspace> although we'd still have problems with duplicates
[10:03] * dimitern is back
[10:03] <dimitern> voidspace, ProviderId is supposed to be coming from the maas network name
[10:04] <dimitern> voidspace, but I guess setting it to the same as the network name *for now* should be fine
[10:06] <voidspace> dimitern: this is not just for maas
[10:06] <voidspace> dimitern: this is for ec2 (and then openstack too)
[10:10] <dimitern> voidspace, I know
[10:10] <dimitern> voidspace, but the model (as implemented in state) will change anyway (e.g. subnets instead of networks, while networks are a different concept)
[10:11] <voidspace> dimitern: right, but at the time we're creating the network configuration for the container I'm not sure that we *have* the network name
[10:11] <voidspace> as it's not relevant
[10:12] <voidspace> I'll look through the code a bit more carefully
[10:12] <dimitern> voidspace, we *should* have it, as the container's host is already on it
[10:12] <dimitern> voidspace, but it's not populated I guess
[10:13] <voidspace> I don't think we have it in configureContainerNetwork I mean
[10:13] <voidspace> I'll check
[10:14] <voidspace> the interface info we're working with comes from the PrepareContainerInterfaceInfo call and NetworkName is not populated
[10:14] <voidspace> I can see if it's possible to populate it there
[10:14] <dimitern> voidspace, right
[10:15] <dimitern> voidspace, if the host itself had it populated at provisioning, it should be possible to get it from there and use the same
[10:15] <dimitern> voidspace, but it won't be populated on the host unless you deploy it e.g. with --networks maas-net-name
[10:16] <voidspace> right - we do copy the NetworkName into the result, so we're being given an empty name and ProviderId
[10:16] <dimitern> voidspace, so just hardcoding it to juju-private (with a TODO comment please that we'll need to fix that as the model gets changed) in PCII() should do the trick I guess?
[10:16] <voidspace> dimitern: for provider Id too? that has to be unique
[10:16] <voidspace> it's actually ProviderId that's the problem now
[10:17] <dimitern> voidspace, unique how?
[10:17] <voidspace> dimitern: there's a unique index on provider id in mongo
[10:17] <dimitern> voidspace, it's no
[10:17] <voidspace> dimitern: go look in state/open.go
[10:17] <dimitern> voidspace, hmm
[10:18] <dimitern> voidspace, that's correct - providerid + envuuid has to be unique within the networks collection
[10:18] <voidspace> right, so we need a unique provider id and at the moment it's empty
[10:19] <dimitern> voidspace, but state.AddNetwork works with existing providerId+envuuid docs and just ignores it
[10:19] <voidspace> dimitern: yes, just found that
[10:19] <voidspace> SetInstanceInfo ignores it
[10:19] <voidspace> not AddNetwork
[10:19] <voidspace> but same effect
[10:19] <dimitern> voidspace, so it *should* be fine
[10:19] <voidspace> dimitern: so set ProviderId to juju-private too? that's actually incorrect - network name is internal to us, provider id is meant to be, well, a provider id :-)
[10:20] <voidspace> dimitern: I can call it "invalid" to make it explicit that we've faked it - or "juju-private-default"
[10:20] <voidspace> which is a bit of a less scary name
[10:20] <voidspace> if it ever leaks
[10:20] <dimitern> voidspace, how about "not-available" ?
[10:20] <voidspace> ok
[10:21] <voidspace> so long as that can never clash with a real one
[10:21] <dimitern> cool, but please make it a const somewhere (network/ I guess)
[10:21] <voidspace> which I guess is probably safe...
[10:22] <dimitern> I don't believe it matters, as it's not used anywhere user-visible
[10:22] <voidspace> dimitern: the danger with ProviderId is that we actually attempt to fetch it from the provider at some point
[10:22] <voidspace> and if it accidentally matches a real one then weird things will happen
[10:23] <voidspace> that's why I suggested a juju prefixed name
[10:23] <dimitern> voidspace, "juju-not-available" ?
[10:23] <dimitern> :)
[10:23] <voidspace> heh
[10:25] <dimitern> voidspace, let's go with "juju-unknown" ?
[10:25] <voidspace> ok
[10:26] <voidspace> bootstrapping with this code...
[10:26] <voidspace> and going for coffee whilst it's churning
[10:47] <wwitzel3> hrmm coffee, good idea
[10:55] <voidspace> wwitzel3: o/
[10:56] <voidspace> dimitern: and that seems to work, but the network *is* displayed in "juju status"
[10:58] <dimitern> voidspace, unless tests start failing for status I can live with that for now :)
[10:58] <dimitern> dooferlad, I've discovered another issue with GetContainerInterfaceInfo (or around it)
[10:59] <dimitern> dooferlad, after host reboot, no routes are added for KVM instances' IPs (for LXC works)
[11:21] <dimitern> dooferlad, additionally, ip route add can fail with exit 2 (RTNETLINK: File exists) and that should be handled better (it currently fails the process of the network config on the host altogether)
[11:23] <dimitern> dooferlad, it should ignore exit 2 and only fail for exit 1 (e.g. Error: an inet prefix is expected rather than "10.15.0.". ; when doing ip route add 10.15.0. dev eth0)
[11:34] <dimitern> dooferlad, I've added a card for you with details, please ping me if unclear
[11:38] <dooferlad> dimitern: just back from lunch. Looking.
[11:39] <dooferlad> dimitern: any idea why it has HTML tags in the description text? Rather noisy to read!
[11:40] <TheMue> dimitern: I've seen the constants, and I liked them. I meant those expectScripts in the tests
[11:44] <dimitern> dooferlad, where are these HTML tags?
[11:45] <dooferlad> dimitern: don't worry, I got rid of them. They were in the card description. Perhaps some copy/paste thing?
[11:45] <dimitern> TheMue, ah, I see
[11:45] <dooferlad> dimitern: The leankit UI is horrible anyway - I don't spend much time looking at it, so it isn't a big deal.
[11:45] <dimitern> dooferlad, ah ok
[11:52] <marcoceppi> Can someone with familiarity of the OpenStack provider respond to the email in the Juju mailing list about Rackspace?
[12:00] <mgz_> marcoceppi: we probably just need a bug filed for firewall-group: none still creating groups
[12:02] <mgz_> marcoceppi: that setting was only added for scale testing, not for clouds that don't actually have the firewalling calls
[12:02] <mgz_> but provider could not do the work
[12:03] <marcoceppi> mgz_: could you let them know that? seems like it's the only blocker for rackspace which would be a huge win fwiu
[12:03] <mgz_> I doubt it's the *only* blocker...
[12:03] <mgz_> certainly the first though, and probably wouldn't be hard to make it work
[12:04] <mgz_> I never bothered because it was a pain to get an account and I wanted the instance-level firewalling support
[12:05] <mgz_> marcoceppi: I'll reply to the mail
[12:06] <marcoceppi> mgz_: thank you!
[12:32] <dimitern> voidspace, hey
[12:33] <dimitern> voidspace, just a heads up - I've filed a separate bug 1464237 for the devices api work, leaving bug 1348663 only for the latest fix I did
[12:33] <mup> Bug #1464237: juju should use devices API on MAAS 1.8+ for addressable containers <addressability> <feature> <kvm> <lxc> <maas-provider> <network> <juju-core:In Progress by mfoord> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464237>
[12:33] <mup> Bug #1348663: DHCP addresses for containers should be released on teardown <maas-provider> <network> <oil> <juju-core:In Progress by dimitern> <juju-core 1.24:Fix Committed by dimitern> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1348663>
[12:36] * dimitern steps out
[12:39] <marcoceppi> is ther any way to get the environment details from the api? I'm trying to gather the region a deployment is in from API only
[12:39] <marcoceppi> (if region is set)
[12:40] <marcoceppi> Environment.info doesn't seem to have those details
[12:42] <marcoceppi> ah, found it, get_env_config in the python-jujuclient will retrieve this information
[12:44] <mup> Bug #1464235 opened: failed to create a security group with firewall-mode: none <openstack-provider> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464235>
[12:45] <mup> Bug #1464237 opened: juju should use devices API on MAAS 1.8+ for addressable containers <addressability> <feature> <kvm> <lxc> <maas-provider> <network> <juju-core:In Progress by mfoord> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464237>
[13:39] <dimitern> reviews appreciated - http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1919/ - port of the fix for bug 1348663 to master
[13:39] <mup> Bug #1348663: DHCP addresses for containers should be released on teardown <maas-provider> <network> <oil> <juju-core:In Progress by dimitern> <juju-core 1.24:Fix Committed by dimitern> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1348663>
[13:45] <mup> Bug #1464254 opened: charmsSuite teardown fails <ci> <intermittent-failure> <unit-tests> <juju-core:Incomplete> <juju-core feature-proc-mgmt:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464254>
[13:45] <mup> Bug #1464255 opened: statesuite teardown fails <ci> <intermittent-failure> <unit-tests> <juju-core:New> <juju-core feature-proc-mgmt:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464255>
[14:02] <katco> wwitzel3: standup
[14:16] * TheMue 's yesterday rant about a pure functional persistency layer and a dumb model would make mocking simpler. model could be used, in-memory persistency mock would be maintained with real persistency layer
[14:29] <katco> TheMue: agreed. Moonstone is making strides towards such a dream.
[14:29] <TheMue> katco: aaaaaaaaaaaah, great enlighting news
[14:29] <TheMue> katco: makes my day
[14:29] <katco> TheMue: mind you, it will take awhile to get to the end-state, but we are chipping away :)
[14:30] <TheMue> katco: sure, nothing to be done in a week. *lol* but it's worth it.
[14:32] * TheMue with this news definitely feels better while hacking his current mocks
[14:37] <voidspace> dimitern: so, cmd/juju tests time out
[14:37] <voidspace> dimitern: I'm guessing there's something that blocks waiting for status to match...
[14:38] <voidspace> dimitern: I'll find it
[14:38] <voidspace> dimitern: fixed a handful of other tests
[14:39] <dimitern> voidspace, right, I've suspected this much, but hopefully it shouldn't be too hard to fix
[14:41] <voidspace> dimitern: yeah, just a case of finding the right test :-)
[14:48] <mup> Bug #1464280 opened: storeManagerStateSuite teardown fails <ci> <unit-tests> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464280>
[14:48] <voidspace> dimitern: the panic traceback is 30211 lines long
[14:48] <voidspace> dimitern: that's quite a few goroutines...
[14:49] <dimitern> voidspace, wow :) not unusual
[14:50] <dimitern> voidspace, 90% of the cases the first few tracebacks are the most useful
[14:51] <dimitern> voidspace, I'd appreciate a review on http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1919/ btw - live tests just passed ok on maas and ec2
[14:53] <voidspace> dimitern: ok
[14:53] <voidspace> dimitern: I think I found the test in that panic
[14:53] <voidspace> dimitern: not obvious from reading the test why it should block
[14:53] <voidspace> but about to try it
[14:53] <voidspace> dimitern: anyway, looking
[14:54] <voidspace> dimitern: so you went with reboot doing an "ifdown"
[14:54] <dimitern> voidspace, try also running suspected tests in isolation
[14:54] <voidspace> dimitern: that's what I'm about to do...
[14:54] <dimitern> voidspace, yeah, works well
[14:54] <voidspace> dimitern: ok
[14:57] <voidspace> dimitern: I hate tests that just copy large blocks of text from the code into the test
[14:57] <voidspace> dimitern: just testing that the config is added would be enough, duplicating the script in the test proves nothing
[14:58] <dimitern> voidspace, it proves the shutdown job for systemd is as expected for vivid
[14:59] <voidspace> dimitern: but you got expected by copying and pasting
[14:59] <voidspace> dimitern: so if there's an error in it the error will be in the test too
[14:59] <voidspace> dimitern: an equally good test would just be checking a match for some unique part of it, and it wouldn't bloat the tests so much
[14:59] <voidspace> dimitern: and they wouldn't be so fragile
[15:00] <voidspace> I had tests fail because my editor trimmed whitespace from a script
[15:00] <voidspace> and the whitespace was duplicated in the test :-/
[15:00] <dimitern> voidspace, heh :) good point, but I've also live tested that it works
[15:00] <voidspace> I'm talking about test cleanliness
[15:00] <voidspace> I'm sure it works, it's just horrible tests
[15:00] <voidspace> they're a menace
[15:01] <dimitern> voidspace, since that PR is for master I'm fine with trying to make the tests a bit better if you think it's worth it - I'll check your comments
[15:01] <voidspace> dimitern: ok, I'll put a comment on the test
[15:01] <dimitern> voidspace, cheers
[15:01] <voidspace> dimitern: hmmm, that test passes on its own
[15:01] <voidspace> dimitern: but it takes >5minutes
[15:02] <voidspace> dimitern: I suspect they're timing out because they're awfully slow tests
[15:02] <voidspace> (cmd/juju I mean)
[15:02] <voidspace> I wonder why these changes would make them slower
[15:02] <voidspace> there's some extra logging I can pull out
[15:02] <dimitern> voidspace, try running them with -race - might uncover the issue
[15:03] <voidspace> dimitern: ok, thanks
[15:03] <katco> wwitzel3: starting to think it might be on my end.
[15:03] <katco> wwitzel3: flash doesn't seem to want to work
[15:03] <wwitzel3> katco: I'm back in
[15:06] * dimitern will be back in 1h
[15:12] <voidspace> dimitern: a ShipIt with an open issue for the worst offender of the tests...
[15:12] <voidspace> test run with "-race" still going
[15:13] <voidspace> and killed
[15:14] <voidspace> trying just the one test
[15:17] <cherylj> dooferlad, dimitern, could you guys take a quick peek at bug 1463480? I suspect that it's a dup of bug 1416928, but I'm not 100%
[15:17] <mup> Bug #1463480: Failed upgrade, mixed up HA addresses <blocker> <canonical-bootstack> <ha> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.22:In Progress by cherylj> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1463480>
[15:17] <mup> Bug #1416928: juju agent using lxcbr0 address as apiaddress instead of juju-br0 breaks agents <api> <lxc> <network> <juju-core:Fix Released by dooferlad> <juju-core 1.21:Fix Released by dimitern> <juju-core 1.22:Fix Released by dooferlad> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1416928>
[15:25] <dooferlad> cherylj: looking
[15:48] <mup> Bug #1464304 opened: Sending a SIGABRT to jujud process causes jujud to uninstall (wiping /var/lib/juju) <cts> <sts> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464304>
[15:53] <natefinch> ^^ what, thats a feature
[15:54] <mup> Bug #1464304 changed: Sending a SIGABRT to jujud process causes jujud to uninstall (wiping /var/lib/juju) <cts> <sts> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464304>
[15:55] <natefinch> mup: infer RandomChoice[{'thats a feature', 'thats a bug'}]
[15:55] <mup> natefinch: Cannot infer much out of this. :-(
[15:55] <natefinch> aww
[16:04] <wwitzel3> ericsnow: just finishing up a quick snack so we can work up until you have to take off
[16:05] <ericsnow> wwitzel3: wrapping up a review so we should be good
[16:06] <mup> Bug #1464304 opened: Sending a SIGABRT to jujud process causes jujud to uninstall (wiping /var/lib/juju) <cts> <sts> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464304>
[16:11] <voidspace> what's the flag to gocheck to not swallow logging output as it's running?
[16:13] <voidspace> -gocheck.vv
[16:20] <wwitzel3> ericsnow: heading to moonstone
[17:36] <mup> Bug # changed: 1403165, 1441478, 1442257, 1453785, 1454697, 1455158, 1456989, 1463117, 1463439
[17:36] <mup> Bug #1464335 opened: debug-log does not work with local provider <debug-log> <local-provider> <regression> <vivid> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464335>
[18:36] <mup> Bug #1464356 opened: TestCloudInit fails <ci> <intermittent-failure> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464356>
[18:53] <natefinch> evidently gc.ErrorMatches can't handle error messages with line returns in them
[18:53] <natefinch> because even this assert is failing: c.Assert(err, gc.ErrorMatches, `.*`)
[18:56] <perrito666> well if it uses the regex, it is correct
[18:56] <perrito666> .* does not include newlines
[18:56] <perrito666> iirc
[18:56] <natefinch> and this is why I hate regexes... well, one of a thousand such reasons
[19:36] <mup> Bug #1464369 opened: Sufficiently sized int config values are converted to floats <oil> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464369>
[19:48] <mup> Bug #1464369 changed: Sufficiently sized int config values are converted to floats <config> <oil> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464369>
[20:40] <mup> Bug #1464392 opened: mgo iterators not being closed in state/actions.go <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464392>
[20:58] <natefinch> dinner time!
[20:58] <natefinch> mup: infer RandomChoice[{'bye!', 'adios!'}]
[20:58] <mup> natefinch: Cannot infer much out of this. :-(
[20:58] <natefinch> mup: infer RandomChoice[{'bye', 'adios'}]
[20:58] <mup> natefinch: bye.
[20:58] <natefinch> man... picky
[21:27] <thumper> alexisb: oh hai
[21:27] <alexisb> heya thumper
[21:27] <alexisb> I need to chat go with you today before I go
[21:27] <alexisb> :)
[21:28] <alexisb> but I am in meetings for a but
[21:28] <alexisb> bit
[21:28] <alexisb> still
[21:30] <alexisb> thumper, I will ping you when I am done with calls
[21:30] <thumper> kk
[21:30] * thumper is about to have a meeting too
[21:36] <alexisb> cherylj, what is the next step for https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1463480
[21:36] <mup> Bug #1463480: Failed upgrade, mixed up HA addresses <blocker> <canonical-bootstack> <ha> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.22:In Progress by cherylj> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1463480>
[21:38] <cherylj> alexisb: I chatted with thumper about it a few minutes ago, and I think there's not much we can do. It is a known problem that was fixed in 1.22
[21:39] <cherylj> we can give them a workaround to fix the problem if they see it again
[21:43] <alexisb> cherylj, ack, can you please follow-up with pete and make sure they go through the work-around
[21:44] <cherylj> alexisb: will do
[23:05] <alexisb> ok thumper
[23:05] <alexisb> our 1x1 hangout
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[00:29] <kenvandine> jgdx, yes, content-hub does support picking contacts
[01:57] <hevyhomie> hello anyone there know what this means: build/core/product_config.mk:222: *** Can not locate config makefile for product "cm_condor". Stop. ** Don't have a product spec for: 'cm_condor' ** Do you have the right repo manifest?
[07:04] <sturmflut2> good morning
[07:05] <sturmflut2> What exactly is "full shell rotation"? Does that mean that unity8, scopes etc. will also rotate if the device is rotated?
[07:09] <ogra_> sturmflut2, right ... and the panel etc
[07:10] <ogra_> (and ... most importantly, your input gestures)
[07:10] <cedian_linux> I did what jjohansen and ogra_ said, but still gives these errors:
[07:10] <cedian_linux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11694728/
[07:26] <cedian_linux> I did what ogra_ and jjohansen said, but these pastes contain the errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/11694757/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/11694728/
[07:43] <ogra_> cedian_linux, well, you probably want to run something like "make clean" ... though i see you are working on a port for the oneplus, i think there is a semi-workin one already made by mariogrip
[07:43] <cedian_linux> I'm working with mariogrip
[07:44] <ogra_> ah, well, perhaps he can tell you wahts wrong, i know he built the kernel multiple times before (you kind of have to when you do a port)
[07:44] <cedian_linux> Yeah, I know
[08:12] <cedian_linux> ogra_ I've seen the kernel also fails to build on his jenkins server
[08:15] <cedian_linux> can this one be used, already? linux-apparmor-backports
[08:38] <seb128> mzanetti, oh, we have contacts browsing over bluetooth working? I though that was a todo
[08:39] <mzanetti> seb128, I was totally surprised when I saw it
[08:39] <mzanetti> but works fine with my Car
[08:39] <seb128> nice
[08:39] <seb128> need to try that :-)
[08:39] <mzanetti> I think it's working over HFP though
[08:39] <mzanetti> not PBAP
[08:39] <seb128> mzanetti, the "can't pick call" he mentioned is likely bug #1453004
[08:40] <mzanetti> i.e. no contacts pictures and some other advanced features of PBAP not there obviously
[08:40] <seb128> k
[08:40] <mzanetti> but good enough for now I'd say
[08:40] <mzanetti> AVRCP would be more important
[08:40] <seb128> well having the phone numbers and being able to dial one is the most useful part
[08:46] <victor_bq> hi all, does anybody knows if SAP or rSAP is supported already?
[08:47] <victor_bq> or if it will be implemented soon?
[08:54] <sturmflut2> mzanetti: I was already happy when A2DP worked out of the box, didn't even know that AVRCP existed
[08:54] <mzanetti> huh
[08:55] <mzanetti> it's quite odd to pul out the phone, unlock it, go to the music app and skip a song, when your headphones would have a skip button :D
[08:55] <mzanetti> but hey, I can pick up calls with that headphone :D
[08:59] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Ferris Bueller Day! 😃
[09:09] <cotton> hello everyone :) any other news about ota-4 update release date?
[09:09] <cotton> thanks
[09:12] <cedian_linux> I just added a temporary fix to fix errors, I added direct paths for now
[09:13] <cedian_linux> It's compiling more than first
[09:27] <cedian_linux> It looks like it'll work
[10:37] <BonobosSake> Hi i've a problem i made my porting but my phone can't use fastboot so i can't flash with it ...
[10:50] <fooloop> hi guys, does anyone know how to avoid using ubuntu one to install apps on a ubuntu phone? I kind of want to option to not or selectively use the cloud or be able to have opencloud or sommat instead (in the long run, I realise this is not realistic yet)
[10:51] <popey> fooloop: no, you need a U1 account to use the store
[10:51] <fooloop> are there ways to get free apps without the store? Like I dunno, an fdroid for ubuntu? :D
[10:52] <fooloop> basically all I want is a terminal hahaha
[10:52] <fooloop> how is that not standard?? :P
[10:53] <popey> heh
[10:53] <popey> you could grab the source and build the click package yourself
[10:53] <popey> and side load it onto the device
[10:53] <popey> (ugh, I said "side load")
[10:54] <davmor2> popey: you meant moo cow it obviously
[10:55] <fooloop> ok, am new to this phone/ubuntu thing, I have a laptop at home running archlinux.
[10:55] <fooloop> do I build from the phone or from my box and then upload via usb?
[10:55] <popey> there is another way
[10:55] <popey> :)
[10:55] <fooloop> awesome :)
[10:56] <popey> http://popey.mooo.com/mirror/clicks/2015/06/2015-06-11-050001/com.ubuntu.terminal_0.7.74_armhf.click
[10:56] <popey> get that
[10:56] <popey> adb push com.ubuntu.terminal_0.7.74_armhf.click
[10:56] <popey> adb shell
[10:56] <popey> pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted com.ubuntu.terminal_0.7.74_armhf.click
[10:56] <popey> job done.
[10:57] <davmor2> or just create an u1 account install it and done that way you'll get updates for it too :)
[10:57] <fooloop> it better be open, I will want to read what crazy shit I am putting on my device :P
[10:58] <popey> hah
[10:58] <fooloop> yeah I could do that, I don't know what else it decides to do automagically though, does it immediately sync everything?
[10:58] <popey> no
[10:59] <fooloop> [literally just unpacked it pretty much, it still has the plastic sheet on the display]
[10:59] <fooloop> I'll probably run a wireshark on it later today
[10:59] <fooloop> or something
[10:59] <popey> that would be an interesting exerecise.
[11:00] <popey> there's a couple of settings in System Settings -> Security & Privacy you might want to switch off, if you don't want it "Phoning home" or whatever
[11:00] <fooloop> *nods*
[11:00] <fooloop> I will check it out. Hey thanks btw, you're really helpful!
[11:01] <popey> You're welcome.
[11:01] <popey> You caught me on a good day ㋛
[11:01] <fooloop> mind if I lurk here for a bit? I am sure this won't be my last question. Am at work now too so can't do too much about it
[11:01] <popey> sure, everyone is welcome to lurk here
[11:02] <fooloop> cool
[11:02] <sturmflut2> Have we ever had 311 people on this channel before?
[11:02] <popey> dunno, I rarely keep count
[11:03] <sturmflut2> Softpedia: "Ubuntu Phone IRC channel has too many users, internet shut down automatically"
[11:05] <popey> sturmflut2: http://popey.com/~alan/touch/ there you go, instant stats :)
[11:05] <sturmflut2> He has a statistic for everything
[11:05] <sturmflut2> Nerd
[11:06] <popey> ya!
[11:06] <sturmflut2> Haha, I'm in the top 25 twice
[11:07] <DanChapman> lol "mhall119 is a very aggressive person"
[11:08] <sturmflut2> "JamesTait brings happiness to the world"
[11:08] <sturmflut2> absolutely true
[11:08] <sturmflut2> Without him I would never know which day to celebrate
[11:08] <popey> bah, laptop just spontenously rebooted
[11:09] <cedian_linux> I once said sudo reboot, so my laptop rebooted, when I didn't wanted that
[11:09] <JamesTait> sturmflut2, or annoyance - depends whether or not your able to take my tongue-in-cheek greetings in the intended spirit. ☺
[11:09] <JamesTait> *you're
[11:09] <davmor2> popey: oh man now I need to write lines to beat a stupid bot I hate you
[11:10] <popey> :)
[11:10] <davmor2> 1 line down
[11:12] <popey> stupid laptop overheating
[11:12] <sturmflut2> JamesTait: I hope you're only using your secret internet "days of the year" database query skills for good
[11:13] <jgdx> popey, open and force feed it compressed air
[11:13] <ogra_> popey, yours too ?
[11:13] <popey> ya
[11:13] <popey> warm day in uk
[11:13] <ogra_> mine as well, close to unusable since i upgraded it to vivid
[11:13] <fooloop> where in the uk?
[11:13] <JamesTait> sturmflut2, now you've done it - you've gone and planted the seed of an idea.
[11:13] <davmor2> popey: get a north facing office end of issue
[11:13] <popey> fooloop: farnborough
[11:14] <popey> davmor2: true
[11:14] <fooloop> until two weeks back I was in scotland, it was never warm :P
[11:14] <ogra_> psensors shows a constant 69°C while idle :/
[11:14] <popey> haha
[11:14] <sturmflut2> JamesTait: Oh noes :(
[11:14] <davmor2> ogra_: I read that as pensioners had a whole different meaning
[11:14] <ogra_> (opening a browser and evolution keeps it constant at 95°C while idle .... starting to do *anything* on it makes it shut down then ...)
[11:15] <JamesTait> sturmflut2, it's probably OK. I'll never get time to actually work on it, so it'll just fester in the back of my mind and slowly drive me insane. 😉
[11:16] <sturmflut2> JamesTait: You can always play "Don't Crash" to speed up the "going insane" part
[11:16] <davmor2> JamesTait: I'm sorry are you still under the impression that you are sane?
[11:16] <popey> nice pimping :)
[11:17] <davmor2> popey: I thought you just crashed cars if you get to pimp them too I'm all for playing it ;)
[11:17] <popey> :þ
[11:17] <JamesTait> davmor2, it's all relative.
[11:19] <davmor2> JamesTait: That's true, you have kids they might not be insane can we talk to them instead :D
[11:20] <Mirv> niemeyer: any idea if this armhf ftbfs related to missing GLdouble on arm is something that could be fixed in qml.v1 git? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/208829732/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-armhf.ciborium_0.2.12%2B15.10.20150611-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[11:20] <JamesTait> davmor2, it's only a matter of time. 😉
[11:20] <Mirv> (builds on x86)
[11:21] <davmor2> JamesTait: good man you bring them up right and they too can have a nervous tick ;)
[11:21] * JamesTait twitches
[11:21] <JamesTait> Who? Me?
[11:23] <fooloop> http://notyetthere.org/openstore-tweakgeek-and-more/ <--- anyone looked into this?
[11:24] <jgdx> mpt, hi, checkboxes on the left, to confirm? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhoneApp?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=phone-settings-call-forwarding-some.png
[11:27] <popey> fooloop: yeah, i use it
[11:27] <popey> fooloop: mainly to force the terminal to stay alive when not focussed. works well.
[11:27] <mpt> jgdx, just follow the toolkit default. I’m still working on getting the default position changed. :-)
[11:27] <popey> (tweakgeek that is)
[11:27] <jgdx> mpt, rog
[11:28] <jgdx> mpt, at the very least follow text direction
[11:29] <mpt> jgdx, that’s an independent issue — if they should be on the left in LTR languages then they should be on the right in RTL, and vice versa
[11:29] <fooloop> popey: :)
[11:29] <fooloop> cool, I will have to add that to my list of things to look at
[11:29] <popey> it's handy if you want to leave an ssh session open on your phone
[11:32] <popey> like this http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-06-11-123200.png
[11:32] <popey> :)
[11:34] <davmor2> popey: weirdo
[11:34] <sturmflut2> popey: You can also unlock the phone and use phablet-shell once, it will start an SSH server and set up an ADB port forwarding that stays alive as long as the USB cable is connected
[11:34] <popey> oh nice
[11:34] <sturmflut2> popey: http://sturmflut.github.io/ubuntu/touch/2015/05/08/hacking-ubuntu-touch-part-5-adb-shell-vs-phablet-shell/ at the bottom
[11:35] <sturmflut2> (I really DO have a blog article for everything)
[11:36] <sturmflut2> Oooh, Calendar app update!
[12:06] <fooloop> hmm Ican't find in my privacy settings to turn off cloud backups ..
[12:13] <fooloop> so accounts is not 'online' accounts.. I guess..
[12:13] <sturmflut2> fooloop: We have cloud backups?
[12:14] <fooloop> I don't know, I am trying to find out whether it does that default every other phone thing of backing up your personals to a cloud server
[12:14] <fooloop> There is a part of the privacy agreement that stipulates 'online accounts' but I can't find a lot about the details
[12:15] <fooloop> It does not feel very transparent but potentially it's just me being thick :/
[12:19] <popey> fooloop: no, we dont backup automatically
[12:20] <fooloop> really? wow..
[12:20] <fooloop> thanks
[12:46] <cedian_linux> virt_to_bus keeps giving errors at ambassador.h http://paste.ubuntu.com/11696011/
[12:48] <cedian_linux> the full code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11696018/
[12:49] <sturmflut2> cedian_linux: I highly doubt that you need this driver on your phone
[12:49] <cedian_linux> ok thanks
[12:49] <cedian_linux> but what should I do with it, to not compile it?
[12:49] <sturmflut2> I highly doubt you will be needing *any* ATM on your phone
[12:49] <sturmflut2> cedian_linux: edit the kernel configuration file or use "make menuconfig"
[12:50] <cedian_linux> menuconfig fails
[12:50] <sturmflut2> which error?
[12:51] <cedian_linux> I'll post it soon
[13:04] <sturmflut2> popey: https://github.com/Sturmflut/ubuntu-html5-webview-template
[13:05] <popey> i see references to pandas :)
[13:05] <sturmflut2> Argh, right
[13:05] <sturmflut2> Saw it at the exact same moment
[13:07] <sturmflut2> fixed
[13:16] <Elleo> kenvandine: heya, I'm wondering if instead of, or possible in addition to the "All" type, we should have an "AllFiles" type? since things like filemanager/files-app that might want to register for all won't want be able to accept or provide things like links
[13:16] <kenvandine> not sure what you mean
[13:16] <kenvandine> oh
[13:16] <kenvandine> i see what you mean
[13:17] <kenvandine> all content != all files
[13:17] <mpt> charles, who is providing the timestamp in <https://launchpadlibrarian.net/206153952/screenshot20151204_001239822.png>?
[13:17] <kenvandine> Elleo, that is much more complicated...
[13:17] <mpt> Is it unity8, or indicator-messages, or something else?
[13:18] <Elleo> kenvandine: yeah, as it doesn't make much sense for the files app to appear in the picker when you're trying to share a link for example
[13:18] <kenvandine> yeah
[13:18] <kenvandine> i see your point
[13:18] <seb128> mpt, trying to open a bug about that?
[13:18] <mpt> seb128, no, it’s from bug 1453689
[13:19] <kenvandine> Elleo, we'd need some mapping of well-known types to files and !files
[13:19] <seb128> mpt, k, I was going to say it's filed ;-)
[13:19] <kenvandine> Elleo, although it won't appear for sharing a link, but it would for opening a link
[13:20] <kenvandine> i didn't add "all" for share handlers
[13:20] <Elleo> ah, right
[13:20] <kenvandine> but we could still run into this
[13:21] <Elleo> alternatively we could actually have files app try to handle those cases, by e.g. saving a text file containing the link or something (same for the text type); not sure that'd be very useful though
[13:21] <kenvandine> the transfer could end up with serialized content, for example renatu wants to send vcards without files
[13:21] <kenvandine> Elleo, it could be for vcards :)
[13:21] <Elleo> yeah
[13:22] <kenvandine> right now he creates a vcard file just for the transfer
[13:22] <kenvandine> that was one of the use cases for the serialized content
[13:22] <kenvandine> but that breaks when trying to send it to a file :)
[13:22] <Elleo> maybe that should be handled in the content-hub
[13:22] <seb128> mpt, it's likely on the right package
[13:23] <Elleo> if an app tries to read the file url from a serialized transfer then content-hub automatically saves it out to a file
[13:23] <kenvandine> Elleo, that was one of the ideas i had for the content store api
[13:23] <kenvandine> saving a content item to a content store
[13:23] <Elleo> ah, cool
[13:23] <kenvandine> would actually save the file
[13:23] <seb128> mpt, libmessaging-menu has apis used by client to add messages, there is a variant which let you specify a timestamp, otherwise it uses the current one
[13:23] <kenvandine> but... that is all just ideas with now plans to implement :)
[13:24] <kenvandine> saving a content item to a store, if it was already a file it would just link it
[13:24] <seb128> mpt, ubuntu-push seems to use the variant without timestamp, so I guess the issue is on the indicator side
[13:24] <kenvandine> if it wasn't, it would write it out to a file
[13:24] <kenvandine> Elleo, i think that would be a very slick feature :)
[13:24] <Elleo> yeah
[13:25] <kenvandine> and the content item knowns the type
[13:26] <seb128> mpt, or maybe the issue is that the messages arrive before midnight but there is a delay in the service
[13:26] <kenvandine> Elleo, i also think it could be cool if the files-app was really a ContentStore browser :)
[13:26] <kenvandine> not a file system browser
[13:26] <kenvandine> but that really needs more thought than we've already put into this
[13:27] <Elleo> kenvandine: not sure entirely what that would entail; would it then be able to browse the contentstores belonging to all the apps?
[13:27] <kenvandine> no... only the ones it had access too
[13:27] <kenvandine> so the user scope for pictures
[13:27] <kenvandine> for example
[13:28] <kenvandine> which would be ~/Pictures
[13:28] <kenvandine> but it could include more
[13:28] <kenvandine> if there was other locations
[13:29] <Elleo> ah, okay; well that's sort of what it does at the moment, only by limiting the browsing to those specific directories rather than retrieving them as content stores, so should be easy to change that mechanism under the hood
[13:29] <kenvandine> Elleo, it would be an abstraction point for the special mount points that the container has
[13:29] <kenvandine> and apps could use them the same way, but restricted to the app scope
[13:29] <kenvandine> so the API would be the same, but filtered by scope
[13:30] <Elleo> right, sounds good
[13:30] <kenvandine> so many ideas... so little time :)
[13:31] <mpt> tedg, hi, did you see this question about the URL dispatcher? There are no replies. <https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg12886.html>
[13:31] <Elleo> heh, yeah
[13:32] <tedg> mpt, I saw it, but it's not a question about the URL dispatcher, it's a question about the webapp container.
[13:32] <tedg> mpt, It is basically "when do my URLs jump out"
[13:32] <tedg> mpt, I don't know the answer :-)
[13:33] <tedg> mpt, I'd be willing to bet that alexabreu probably does though.
[13:34] <alexabreu> tedg, mpt oh that's an oldie, I missed that one ... I'll answer it
[13:35] <alexabreu> tedg, the answer is "when it is asked not to" :) ... basically you can supply a list of patterns that define the set of urls you app is constrained to
[13:40] <mpt> Thanks alexabreu
[13:46] <Mirv> jhodapp: a reminder to put bug #1377015 / https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-41054 patch upstream via their git codereview
[13:46] <jhodapp> Mirv, yeah, it's on my list...just a low priority atm :)
[13:46] <jhodapp> Mirv, thanks for the reminder though
[13:47] <Mirv> jhodapp: no problem
[13:48] <Sleep_Walker> are you aware of problem with ocasional not showing incomming call dialog?
[13:49] <Sleep_Walker> last time happend while I was playing `Machines vs. Machines' (btw. damn addictive and hard game :)
[13:55] <ogra_> Sleep_Walker, there is a bug open for that, and there was a discussion on the ML about it today
[13:55] <Sleep_Walker> OK, another ML to subscribe
[13:55] <ogra_> (though you seem to only be the second person that has seen that issue yet)
[13:56] <Sleep_Walker> I have seen it before update annoyingly often
[13:56] <ogra_> (but perhaps others just dont speak up, who knows)
[13:56] <Sleep_Walker> after update I thought it was fixed but I met it today again
[13:56] <Sleep_Walker> (when my boss called :D )
[13:56] <ogra_> what do you have then, a completely black screen ?
[13:57] <Sleep_Walker> usually just last application is visible
[13:57] <ogra_> you dont use a lock screen ?
[13:57] <Sleep_Walker> I use
[13:57] <Sleep_Walker> btw. I have to unlock it during the call
[13:58] <ogra_> you should just be able to swipe to pick it up
[13:58] <Sleep_Walker> whole dialog just doesn't appear
[13:58] <Sleep_Walker> so no slider to answer/reject the call
[13:58] <ogra_> yes, i meant when it works
[13:58] <ogra_> you shouldnt need to unlock for picking up
[13:58] <Sleep_Walker> ah ok
[14:02] <cedian_linux> do i need nouveau?
[14:04] <cedian_linux> I mean gpu/drm/nouveau and gpu/drm?
[14:12] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, I just posted a new comment on https://code.launchpad.net/~uriboni/webbrowser-app/keyboard-navigation/+merge/260183
[14:13] <heyvhomie> good afternoon/evening. I am trying to port touch to moto e according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting I am having problems with the build. build/core/product_config.mk:222: *** Can not locate config makefile for product "condor". Stop. ** Don't have a product spec for: 'condor' ** Do you have the right repo manifest?
[14:13] <sturmflut2> pmcgowan: I just looked at your "Bug Management" karma and it blew my mind
[14:14] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: thanks, i will tackle that together with bill's concerns on the find in page
[14:16] <pmcgowan> sturmflut2, hah, bugs are my life man
[14:17] <sturmflut2> pmcgowan: I know, I constantly see your name in all those e-mails from Launchpad
[14:26] <cedian_linux> I'll built a pretty basic kernel, which might work
[14:28] <Mirv> mandel: niemeyer: I guess what would be needed would be a variant of http://paste.ubuntu.com/11696529/ applied to the qml.v1/gl
[14:28] <popey> cedian_linux: what device?
[14:28] <cedian_linux> oneplus one
[14:28] <popey> cedian_linux: nice. a couple of other people have attempted that
[14:28] <popey> I think mariogrip is one
[14:29] <cedian_linux> not too basic, but there were things that didn't work out, I'm working together with mariogrip
[14:29] <popey> he's got a working kernel, but I think 3g didnt work
[14:29] <popey> great!
[14:29] <popey> \o/
[14:31] <cedian_linux> and apparmor, but the kernel build failed most of the time
[14:31] <cedian_linux> what's dvb
[14:33] <ogra_> TV cards
[14:34] <cedian_linux> thanks
[14:35] <cedian_linux> and ir decoders?
[14:37] <niemeyer_> Mirv: The gl package there is generated out of gl.xml.. it shouldn't use that constant if it's not supposed to be available
[14:38] <niemeyer_> Mirv: and this seems to find nothing there:
[14:38] <niemeyer_> grep 'GL_DOUBLE\|GL_FLOAT' ~/src/gopkg.in/qml.v1/gl/*.*/*.go
[14:39] <Mirv> niemeyer_: right. the build failure of missing GLdouble on arm only just reminded me of a similar problem in completely different context
[14:39] <niemeyer_> Mirv: Ah, right.. it does use GLdouble and GLfloat
[14:47] <gogis_> hey guys
[14:48] <gogis_> is there anybody??
[14:48] <k1l> some are
[14:48] <cedian_linux> yes i'm here
[14:48] <gogis_> I came here to ask if I can somehow help with the development of ubuntu
[14:50] <gogis_> do you guys contribute to ubuntu development?
[14:50] <popey> sure do!
[14:50] <dobey> i'm not anybody :)
[14:51] <gogis_> okay, so what do you do? :)
[14:51] <popey> What would you like to do?
[14:53] <gogis_> something connected to programming... I just finished high school and would like to acquire some experience... I'm not new to programming, but I lack some experience with serious projects
[14:53] <dobey> gogis_: this channel is primarily about development of the phone images of ubuntu
[14:53] <popey> What languages do you know?
[14:53] <ogra_> sigh, so now calendar notifications dont generate persistent entires in the message menu anymore ?
[14:53] <gogis_> I have done algorithm competitions mostly in my free time
[14:53] <ogra_> does anyone know if thats on purpose ?
[14:54] <popey> they dont?
[14:54] * ogra_ would like to know when he missed an appointment
[14:54] <popey> calendar has never used the message menu
[14:54] <popey> only the indicator-datetime
[14:54] <ogra_> i just got a notification (on both phones) for a meeting in 10min
[14:54] <dobey> gogis_: if you want to discuss more general development of ubuntu, such as you run on your pc currently, then #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-desktop might be a better place to discuss :)
[14:54] <ogra_> and they used to result in a blinking led and green envelope before
[14:55] <gogis_> I know C/++, Python, Pascal, quite Java... I also understand Assembly and I can learn other languages quickly
[14:55] <cedian_linux> shineled fails
[14:55] <davmor2> dobey: no you are that body not any right :)
[14:56] <sturmflut2> gogis_: this is a special channel for Ubuntu on phones and tablets. You might want to start at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[14:58] <cedian_linux> can someone look at this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11696697/ ?
[15:01] <sturmflut2> cedian_linux: Hm, "shineled" doesn't seem to be part of the vanilla kernel. Is this an Android- oder vendor-only driver?
[15:01] <cedian_linux> android
[15:02] <ogra_> makes the led shine :)
[15:03] <cedian_linux> It looks like it won't build the built-in.o in shineled, but I can't find out why
[15:03] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: what do you think of making F11 and CTRL+H toggles, on top of allowing exiting full screen and history with ESC ?
[15:05] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, F11 should definitely be a toggle, and I don’t mind if Ctrl+H is a toggle too (although that sounds less natural to me)
[15:06] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ok
[15:06] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ill just do f11
[15:08] <cedian_linux> my makefile sturmflut2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11696741/
[15:10] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: also, if we are in history view or in settings AND in fullscreen, do you think esc should exit both ?
[15:10] <sturmflut2> cedian_linux: That's the default Linux kernel Makefile, from what I know about kernel development you might rather look at linux/drivers/misc/Makefile or something around that location
[15:11] <cedian_linux> thanks
[15:11] <sturmflut2> cedian_linux: apparently it tries to link the shineled object file, but it was never built?
[15:11] <cedian_linux> no never built
[15:12] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: and finally, but i think you knew this already, escaping fullscreen from the new tab view is impossible since the focus will be permanently on the textfield
[15:12] <cedian_linux> here the other makefile from that directory http://paste.ubuntu.com/11696753/
[15:14] <cedian_linux> I commented the lastpart out it works
[15:14] <sturmflut2> cedian_linux: Hmmm, in that case there might be a broken Makefile in linux/drivers/misc/shineled/ ?
[15:15] <cedian_linux> but got another error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11696765/
[15:16] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, not sure I understand, how could the new tab view be fullscreen? I mean it doesn’t make sense to allow it to go fullscreen, does it?
[15:16] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: well, you are in fullscreen on a page, then switch tab to a new tab page
[15:17] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ctrl+tab to switch tabs can land you on a new tab page, ctrl+t while in fullscreen also
[15:17] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, then those actions should result in leaving fullscreen mode
[15:18] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: great
[15:19] <oSoMoN> mandel, hey, could https://launchpad.net/bugs/1463559 be a bug in udm, by any chance?
[15:22] <cedian_linux> it's going on with compiling
[15:24] <oSoMoN> dpm, hey, we’re having an issue with oxide translations in the langpacks, can you advise?
[15:24] <dpm> oSoMoN, about to enter a call, but please let me know the details and I'll answer when I'm back
[15:25] <oSoMoN> dpm, oxide generates translations under /usr/share/locale/$LANG/LC_MESSAGES/oxide-qt.mo, they are being stripped off the deb by pkgstriptranslations, and they end up in the langpack under /usr/share/locale-langpack/$LANG/LC_MESSAGES/oxide.mo (notice how oxide-qt.mo became oxide.mo)
[15:26] <oSoMoN> how could it possibly be renamed?
[15:28] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: one last thing, navigating to another page by clicking a link currently exits fullscreen. is this intentional ?
[15:31] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, try in another desktop browser, how does it behave?
[15:32] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: other desktop browsers try to stay in fullscreen no matter what you do. you exit fullscreen only when you explicitly ask for it
[15:33] <mpt> jgdx, seb128: It’s not reviewed yet, but I’ve posted a draft design for keyboard settings for pocket PC. <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LanguageAndText?action=diff&rev2=54&rev1=53#keyboard-hardware>
[15:33] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, do you have an example page that I could use to test that?
[15:33] <seb128> mpt, thanks
[15:33] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: any page that has a link. go to google.com and click on the links at the bottom for example
[15:33] <seb128> kenvandine, jgdx, ^
[15:33] <kenvandine> cool
[15:37] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: the reason it exits fullscreen on link click is because we get an onFullscreenRequested signal from oxide with the fullscreen argument set to false
[15:39] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, ok, so it might (or might not) be a bug in oxide, would you mind raising that with Chris on #oxide?
[15:47] <brunch875> what the...!
[15:47] <brunch875> I can't send an email on my desktop
[15:47] <brunch875> The reported error was "GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name :1.142 was not provided by any .service files".
[15:48] <brunch875> Ogra, what are you snappers breaking? :P
[15:48] <ogra_> brunch875, why would i break anything on your desktop :)
[15:49] <brunch875> It could be some convoluted and evil scheme
[15:50] <ogra_> i just had the same issue because i moved ~/.ssh around
[15:51] <ogra_> killing gnome-keyring-daemon and restarting the mailer worked for me
[15:51] <ogra_> (after i had putr back ~/.ssh
[15:51] <ogra_> )
[15:52] <brunch875> oh I installed openssh-server yesterday
[15:52] <brunch875> I notice a pattern here
[15:58] <dpm> oSoMoN, what distro are we talking about re: oxide translations, vivid (and wily) I guess?
[15:58] <oSoMoN> dpm, vivid for sure, I haven’t checked on wily yet, let me do that
[15:59] <dpm> oSoMoN, it seems there are no translations templates for wily yet, so vivid it is for now
[16:00] <oSoMoN> ok
[16:01] <dpm> oSoMoN, so what I've done is to change the translation domain in the source package in LP from "oxide" to "oxide-qt". If I remember correctly, this will make the translations to be exported as "oxide-qt" in the next language pack export. I'd suggest to check with pitti next time the langpacks are built
[16:02] <oSoMoN> dpm, thanks! How come this domain is hardcoded, instead of extracting the domain name from the filenames installed by the package?
[16:05] <oSoMoN> dpm, and is there a project/source package I can target the bug at, for reference?
[16:07] <dpm> oSoMoN, the first time a source package that contains translations is uploaded, LP asks for the template name (how it will be shown in the translations URL) and for the domain (filename to export as in the langpacks). IIRC, LP does a guess and sets domain = source package name, which admins can manually override. Perhaps the first upload the source package was named "oxide"?
[16:07] <dpm> I don't know, that would be one option
[16:07] <dpm> one possiblitiy of what could have happened, I mean
[16:08] <oSoMoN> dpm, ok, fair enough
[16:08] <dpm> oSoMoN, not sure if it's worth filing a bug (that'd be against lp:launchpad). The first ever approval of translations is always manual, and as much as I'd like to be fixed, reallistically I don't see it happening
[16:08] <oSoMoN> dpm, in fact the mo files used to be named oxide.mo, but were renamed oxide-qt.mo at some point, so the initial setup made sense
[16:08] <dpm> aha
[16:09] <oSoMoN> alexabreu, ^^
[16:09] <dpm> so that was probably it. The setup made sense initially, but then the domain in LP wasn't updated according to the change
[16:09] <oSoMoN> dpm, do you mind if I quote our IRC conversation in https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464159 ?
[16:09] <dpm> oSoMoN, not at all
[16:09] <oSoMoN> thx
[16:09] <alexabreu> oSoMoN, dpm yeah I think there was a rename at some point
[16:09] <dpm> feel free to quote any public conversations I have
[16:10] <alexabreu> that explains it
[16:12] <oSoMoN> alexabreu, so all we have to do is wait for the next langpack update, IIUC
[16:12] <oSoMoN> dpm, how often are the langpacks built?
[16:12] <alexabreu> oSoMoN, right, ... dpm can we force a quick update?
[16:16] <dpm> oSoMoN, I think translations are exported daily and then the langpacks are built shortly afterwards. Generally I keep track of the cronjobs after asking the LP team to set them up, but I haven't for vicid
[16:17] <dpm> pitti, are you around and do you know? ^
[16:17] <dpm> or cjwatson, do you know the schedule for language pack exports on LP? ^
[16:26] <popey> jdstrand: the terminal app cannot execute programs located in the home directory, this breaks the ability to run stuff in ~/bin (which gets added to PATH if it exists). Any way we can work around / fix that?
[16:27] <popey> jdstrand: because it's quite handy being able to slap random binaries in ~/bin
[16:27] <jdstrand> popey: what is the denial?
[16:28] <popey> oh, hang on. this _could_ be my bad
[16:28] <popey> :D
[16:28] <cjwatson> dpm: You can find it in lp:lp-production-crontabs, which I believe ~canonical can see
[16:28] <cjwatson> dpm: vivid is 30 10 * * 1
[16:29] <ogra_> popey, i dont think it is... i had the same issue
[16:31] <popey> more testing needed
[16:31] <popey> jdstrand: ignore me for now, unless ogra_ has a good sample
[16:32] <ogra_> not currently ... but i tried scripts in ~/bin more than once ...
[16:32] <ogra_> ssh localhost helps ;)
[16:33] <ogra_> gives you a completely unconfined terminal ... until the lifecycle kills the ssh connection
[16:33] <popey> aha!
[16:33] <popey> locally on device, having a shell script in ~/bin it fails when you try and run it
[16:33] <popey> with "bash: bin/in.sh: Permission denied"
[16:33] <ogra_> yeah
[16:33] <popey> jdstrand: ^ that
[16:34] <popey> [26531.600286] type=1400 audit(1434040394.724:247): apparmor="DENIED" operation="exec" profile="com.ubuntu.terminal_terminal_0.7.74" name="/home/phablet/bin/in.sh" pid=11131 comm="bash" requested_mask="x" denied_mask="x" fsuid=32011 ouid=32011
[16:34] <popey> (unignore me now) :)
[16:37] <dpm> cjwatson, I can see them indeed, thanks. For future reference, on which crontab are the LP exports?
[16:38] <dpm> cjwatson, nm, I found them
[16:42] <jdstrand> popey: can you file a bug against apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu with that denial?
[16:43] <jdstrand> balloons: hey, is this still needed in the apparmor policy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11697185/
[16:45] <balloons> jdstrand, howdy.. we were talking about this the other day :-)
[16:46] <balloons> jdstrand, based on everything that happened (and broke), I'm guessing we could remove all those changes we did at this point
[16:46] <balloons> basically everything to try and help autopilot run with a fake home, etc
[16:47] <jdstrand> balloons: so that is ok to remove toady in wily?
[16:47] <jdstrand> today even
[16:49] <balloons> jdstrand, I believe so. No tests should be using it, but we could check before putting it in
[16:50] <jdstrand> balloons: would you mind doing that? that will greatly simplify the fix for popey's bug
[16:50] <jdstrand> balloons: either you or tell me who to ask
[17:29] <jdstrand> popey: hey, would you mind reviewing my permy 0.8 upload?
[17:30] <popey> jdstrand: sure
[17:34] <jdstrand> popey: thanks!
[17:34] <popey> np, and in return https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu/+bug/1464341
[17:35] <jdstrand> popey: thanks, I'll fix that after I get feedback from balloons
[17:37] <popey> magic
[17:40] <bschaefer> hello, anyone getting a crash in ubuntu-clock-app on wily? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11697457/
[17:40] <balloons> jdstrand, what would you want me to do? propose the removal or ?
[17:40] <bschaefer> (wily-proposed)
[17:40] <balloons> jdstrand, popey sorry, my irc phantom'd dc'd on me and I've been talking to myself
[17:40] <jdstrand> balloons: oh, heh, let me paste
[17:41] <popey> bschaefer: dont use wily :)
[17:41] <jdstrand> 11:50 < jdstrand> balloons: would you mind doing that? that will greatly simplify the fix for popey's bug
[17:41] <jdstrand> 11:50 < jdstrand> balloons: either you or tell me who to ask
[17:41] <bschaefer> popey, but i need to :(
[17:41] <jdstrand> where 'that' refers to: 11:49 < balloons> jdstrand, I believe so. No tests should be using it, but we could check before putting it in
[17:41] <bschaefer> haha
[17:41] <popey> :(
[17:41] <bschaefer> so far all the other core apps are working (only tried 4-5 others)
[17:41] <bschaefer> somethings not working with qtposition (0x0 on this)
[17:42] <popey> bschaefer: feel free to file a bug
[17:42] <popey> yeah
[17:42] <bschaefer> popey, alright
[17:42] <bschaefer> popey, thanks!
[17:42] <balloons> jdstrand, I'll check if you can supply the revamped file
[17:42] <balloons> Or I can attempt to do it ;-)
[17:43] <jdstrand> balloons: autopilot is going to need to remove the 'owner @{HOMEDIRS}/autopilot/fakeenv/*/.local/share/@{APP_PKGNAME}/** mrwklix,' or any related fakeenv rules
[17:43] <jdstrand> balloons: sure, where is the branch?
[17:43] <balloons> jdstrand, ohh right.. that's in autopilot
[17:43] <jdstrand> yeah
[17:43] <balloons> sorry, I was thinking it was somewhere else
[17:44] <jdstrand> I need that ^ removed so I can remove the rules in the unconfined template and do something simple to fix popey's bug
[17:44] <balloons> i'll propose, test and ask for your review
[17:44] <jdstrand> sounds great
[17:45] <jdstrand> there is a weird thing called 'conflicting x modifiers' with apparmor policy that we need to make sure we are in sync with otherwise profiles with the autopilot rules still in there will fail to load
[17:48] <cedian_linux> Can someone help me i get these errors and can't find out why: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11697492/ the code it's about: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11697516/
[17:48] <jjohansen> not really weird, think of it as you have two or more rules instructing the profile to do different things on exec. Instead of just arbitrarily choosing one of the conflicting rules, apparmor forces the policy author to fix the conflict
[17:48] <jdstrand> jjohansen: no it isn't weird, I just didn't want to take the time to describe it in detail
[17:48] <jjohansen> :)
[17:48] <jdstrand> :)
[17:49] <jdstrand> jjohansen: I had a feeling you'd call me out on 'weird' :)
[17:49] <jjohansen> well the message is a bit 'weird' :)
[17:50] <cedian_linux> You are both weird ;)
[17:51] <balloons> jdstrand, looks like veebers just took out the apparmor click.rules file in a recent revision
[17:51] <jdstrand> balloons: is that already in wily?
[17:52] <balloons> it seems like it should be yes
[17:52] <balloons> let me verify
[17:53] <balloons> jdstrand, yes it is in wily
[17:54] <balloons> seeing as I was going to do something similar, sounds like you are safe :-)
[17:54] <jdstrand> balloons: ok, let me be clearer-- click.rules is no longer shipped in wily, therefore there are no fakeenv rules for me to worry about?
[17:54] <balloons> jdstrand, correct. no more fakeenv rules
[17:54] <jdstrand> great
[17:54] <jdstrand> balloons: thanks for checking on that for me :)
[17:55] <cedian_linux> jjohansen: I can't find what the error is and how to fix it in my code these are the errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/11697492/ and this is the code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11697516/
[17:59] <jjohansen> cedian_linux: not the right file
[18:00] <balloons> jdstrand, we need the version from May, but I'm hesitant now to say it's in Wily, because I don't have it locally
[18:01] <balloons> so it's a little confusing. I'm going to take back my previous statement. It's not been released yet
[18:01] <balloons> sorry!
[18:03] <jdstrand> balloons: looks like dbus-property-service ships /usr/share/autopilot-touch/apparmor/click.rules
[18:03] <balloons> jdstrand, I was just going to say this :-)
[18:03] <balloons> they moved it
[18:03] <balloons> so I guess we'll be proposing over there
[18:04] <balloons> the merge that removed it had nothing to do with apparmor, so it was kind of buried
[18:04] <jdstrand> yeah
[18:04] <jdstrand> balloons: so, now the question remains-- can they be removed from dbus-property-service?
[18:05] <jdstrand> balloons: I don't know what in the testing environment is using fakeenv
[18:06] <balloons> jdstrand, right-o. I'm still of the mind it can be removed, but as I said, I'd like to check to be sure
[18:06] <jdstrand> balloons: ok, which loops us back around. can you add a comment in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus-property-service/+bug/1464341 when you've done that?
[18:08] <jdstrand> balloons: once you've done that, I can upload both
[18:19] <cedian_linux> what does rtc mean?
[18:20] <anpok> various things.. real time clock?
[18:20] <cedian_linux> can, but is it needed?
[18:20] <anpok> hm why does bluetooth not work on manta/nexus10
[18:20] <anpok> cedian_linux: sorry, i am lacking context
[18:21] <cedian_linux> I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11697728/ and anpok: what do you mean?
[18:22] <davmor2> anpok: it never has
[18:22] <cedian_linux> I meant is it needed for a working kernel?
[18:23] <davmor2> anpok: chipset is not supported and we never had the driver iirc ogra_ or rsalveti or cyphermox can probably give you more info
[18:23] <anpok> oh
[18:28] <dobey> davmor2: is it that, or is it the same reason bt hasn't worked on n5? ie, it needs bluez5
[18:29] <dobey> iirc, the drivers are there, but it requires going through the android hal instead of normal bluez hci, so bluez5 is needed to be able to do that
[18:29] <davmor2> dobey: oh it could be that, I know there is a reason and it was driver related not sure what the fix was though
[18:30] <dobey> i'm pretty sure it's that. but bluez5 got held up due to other issues
[18:31] <dobey> i guess cyphermox is probably best person to ask about that
[18:37] <anpok> hm ok it seems to have th bcm43241
[18:37] <anpok> which does wifi bt4 and fm
[18:37] <nik90> bschaefer: Do you mind checking if other apps like OSMTouch, GPS Navigation etc crash when using Qt Location on wily-proposed? Clock app uses Qt Location from the QML side and I don't see anything like accessing a null pointer etc from the clock app side of things.
[18:38] <bschaefer> nik90, yeah i can, was looking for a different example but they didnt use position :)
[18:40] <nik90> bschaefer: test https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-weather-dev/ubuntu-weather-app/reboot .. perfect example for this use case
[18:41] <bschaefer> nik90, osmtouch crash looks like the same place
[18:41] * bschaefer tests weather
[18:42] <bschaefer> nik90, same crash
[18:42] <bschaefer> nik90, the one thing that looked strange was
[18:43] <bschaefer> Unable to select module, using dummy.
[18:43] <bschaefer> im not sure if it failed to select a video module or something, but a dummy module could be null
[18:43] <nik90> bschaefer: I have seen that msg before as well..although I cannot remember the specifics.
[18:43] <bschaefer> not sure if its one of the false warnings one or not
[18:43] <bschaefer> but if its failing to find a device or something
[18:43] <nik90> bschaefer: I think we can defer the bug report to https://launchpad.net/location-service since it is the common denominator amongst all these apps
[18:44] <bschaefer> nik90, alright sounds good
[19:09] <cedian_linux> I keep getting usb ether.o errors, but I tried to disable it and it comes back
[19:15] <cedian_linux> my uhci starts failing
[19:17] <cedian_linux> I meant ehci and is it needed?
[19:19] <anpok> what are you compiling?
[19:19] <anpok> i mean which kernel..
[19:20] <cedian_linux> oneplus one
[19:22] <cedian_linux> and keep getting this when running an other make http://paste.ubuntu.com/11698096/
[19:31] <babajuss> hello Can anyone tell me if I can install ubuntu touch to any device or only to mentioned in table in ubuntu.com? Thank you. By the way I have Sony xperia z that I do not use. I would like to instal ubuntu to it.
[19:53] <SturmFlut> Oh wow, Android M comes with a system-wide app backup. So now they don't just own anything that is usually synchd with the cloud, they get *all* your data from *all* your apps.
[20:13] <charles> jhodapp, ping
[20:14] <charles> jhodapp, wrt your last couple of comments in https://bugs.launchpad.net/media-hub/+bug/1373313, what changes do you see that need to happen in i-sound?
[20:14] <jhodapp> charles, hide the next/prev buttons if it's not possible to go next/previous (use the MPRIS has_next()/ has_previous() methods)
[20:14] <charles> jhodapp, anything else?
[20:15] <jhodapp> charles, there might be another change, but won't know until I re-enable exporting the MPRIS interface in media-hub
[20:15] <jhodapp> charles, so that's it for now
[20:15] <charles> ack
[20:20] <charles> jhodapp, just to confirm, you meant the CanGoNext and CanGoPrevious properties, right?
[20:22] <jhodapp> charles, yes sorry, I gave you the media-hub method names :)
[20:22] <charles> :-)
[21:27] <HoloIRCUser> It's compiling the touch system
[21:51] <dobey> uhm, ok
[21:51] <dobey> oh
[21:53] <dobey> SturmFlut: i suppose that's only if you enable it?
[21:55] <SturmFlut> dobey: No, it's on by default, you have to explicitely disable it as an app developer. Probably the user can disable it somehow, but all the other Google Sync services are also usually activated by default when you do a fresh setup of an Android device.
[21:55] <SturmFlut> dobey: They even give you additional free Google Drive storage for this feature, to get everybody on board
[21:56] <dobey> eh
[21:56] <dobey> do they do encryption by default now?
[21:59] <SturmFlut> At least they say that the backup is encrypted, but with what key? Apparently all app data is restored if you log into your account with a new device, so the key has to be either stored somewhere or it can be calculated from your login data
[22:01] <SturmFlut> Like with iCloud, they tell you that everything is encrpyted, but using their key...
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| 2015-06-11T00:00:00 |
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-mir
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[00:25] <RAOF> AlbertA, kdub: The problem with libmirprotobuf ABI bumps is that they're not parallel-loadable.
[00:30] <RAOF> AlbertA, kdub: That said, given the alternative is stack smashing anything using libmirclient8, it seems the lesser of two weevils.
[00:31] <AlbertA> RAOF: ? why not?
[00:32] <RAOF> AlbertA: Two reasons: (1) Protobuf throws an abort() fit if you try and load it twice, and (2) none of the symbols are versioned, so they'll stomp on each other.
[00:33] <RAOF> I mean, it might accidentally work, but you also might get libmirclient.so.8 calling into a mixture of libmirprotobuf.so.0 and libmirprotobuf.so.1.
[00:33] <RAOF> (Or libmirclient.so.9, for that matter)
[00:34] <RAOF> If (1) wasn't true we'd be statically linking mirprotobuf into mirserver and mirclient as nature intended.
[00:35] <AlbertA> RAOF: oh you mean in the same process? but how would that happen? wouldn't the linker see libmirclient9 is linked to libmirprotobuf2?
[00:35] <RAOF> Yeah, in the same process.
[00:35] <AlbertA> or libmirprotobuf1 rather....
[00:37] <RAOF> The linker doesn't check that; the linker sees that libmirclient.so.8 needs libmirprotobuf.so.0 and libmirclient.so.9 needs libmirprotobuf.so.1.
[00:37] <RAOF> It doesn't do any symbol resolution at that point, though.
[00:38] <RAOF> When it *does* try to resolve the symbols it'll do the wrong thing, though - any call from libmirclient.so.8 will hit the same code as the same call from libmirclient.so.9.
[00:39] <AlbertA> RAOF: right.... but how did we get to the point of loading both libmirclient.so.9 and libmirclient.so.8 in the same process?
[00:40] <RAOF> I don't think any code that *we* produce will do that.
[00:40] <AlbertA> RAOF: ahh ok...like it's possible...like something loading plugins for example....yeah....
[00:40] <RAOF> But it's by no means impossible - something using SDL + Qt, maybe?
[00:40] <RAOF> Right.
[00:41] <RAOF> And should someone *do* that it will fail in an *entirely* inscrutable fashion.
[00:41] <AlbertA> right....
[00:41] <RAOF> FWIW I've bumped the ABI on my branch.
[00:42] <RAOF> Because *definitely* inscrutably killing everything that uses libmirclient.so.8 is worse than possibly killing someone linking to both libmirclient.so.8 and libmirclient.so.9 :)
[00:42] <RAOF> But, basically, protobuf is terrible and should feel bad :)
[00:42] <AlbertA> RAOF: one more reason to move away from it...yeah
[00:42] <AlbertA> :)
[04:11] <duflu> OK my usual technique for replacing USC with Mir for testing is not working on krillin. What's the other way to stop USC from starting?
[04:12] <duflu> (Not working means USC steals the touchscreen and a second server can't get input)
[06:38] <alf_> duflu: isn't 'stop lightdm' working for you?
[06:38] <alf_> (sudo)
[06:38] <duflu> alf_: Forgot to try that. Now it's semi-bricked. This will take time to get back
[06:43] <duflu> Funny thing about ubuntu-device-flash is that if you don't really know what you're doing and repeat enough times it will eventually work
[06:43] <RAOF> Unless you're flashing a N10, at which point you should probably load android on it and *then* try flashing it.
[06:44] <duflu> RAOF: Yes that has worked in the past too
[06:52] <duflu> Heh. Or I could just Google the problem and get a solution from AskUbuntu fairly quickly (which is the same solution I stumbled on for another phone recently)
[07:43] <RAOF> Is there a good way to test threadsafety?
[07:54] <duflu> RAOF: helgrind and/or threadsanitizer of course
[07:55] <RAOF> Right, but is there a good way to ensure that they actually pick up races / lock ordering problems / etc?
[07:55] <RAOF> Or is it just ‘do a whole bunch of things on a whole bunch of threads and hope that you hit a bad codepath’?
[07:56] <duflu> RAOF: They do assume your test coverage is reasonable
[07:56] <RAOF> But more than that, right?
[07:57] <RAOF> I mean, they assume not only that you hit every line of code, but that you hit a lot of temporal combinations.
[07:57] <duflu> RAOF: Well in both cases they report theoretical errors before they happen. But still to get that far you need some reasonable test coverage to touch the code paths. They do not however rely on bad luck; they're better than that.
[07:58] <RAOF> True; they don't need you to *actually* hit a data race.
[07:58] <RAOF> You do still need to have multiple threads hitting the appropriate bits, though.
[08:31] <duflu> Does anyone know why Mir-demos (trunk) can't get any touch events on krillin? I'm almost out of ideas, and now bisecting to see if older code works
[08:46] <duflu> Ugh, it's a Mir bug. Logging it now
[09:33] <alan_g> alf_: incorporated your USC code improvements. Thanks
[09:33] <alf_> alan_g: you are welcome
[11:42] <alan_g> anpok: How's this? https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/unity-system-compositor/incorporate-logo-into-spinner-binary/+merge/261181
[11:43] <anpok> looking
[11:44] <anpok> ah and now const
[11:46] <anpok> hm i am marked as community
[11:54] <alan_g> Wear it with pride
[15:55] <alan_g> AlbertA: as you've not contributed code to it, care to review this? https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/unity-system-compositor/incorporate-logo-into-spinner-binary/+merge/261181
[15:57] <AlbertA> alan_g: yeah taking a look
[15:59] <alan_g> thanks
[16:32] <AlbertA> gah...I guess mirclientplatformmesa does need to link against libmirclient....
[16:32] <AlbertA> mir_platform_message_xxx apis...
[17:50] <anpok> AlbertA: and also other platforms because of the event builders
[18:32] <kgunn> mterry: hey, starting to look into snap stuff again...so, pidof...doesn't that seem a bit hardcore to not have access to a tool like that ? i mean
[18:32] <kgunn> to have to explicitly say you want some basic tool, that seems weird to me
[18:33] <mterry> kgunn, it's leaking info about what else is running on the system
[18:33] <mterry> kgunn, default app isolation is quite intense
[18:33] <kgunn> no kidding
[18:33] <kgunn> so things like top couldn't either
[18:33] <kgunn> just seems weir
[18:33] <kgunn> d
[18:33] <mterry> kgunn, might be able to run it, but only see some pids? not sure
[18:33] <mterry> kgunn, so it's a tricky problem for mir
[18:34] <kgunn> i was just looking at that script...
[18:34] <mterry> kgunn, the original reason was that the tty races with mir
[18:34] <mterry> kgunn, mir might show first, then gettty takes over the screen
[18:34] <mterry> kgunn, but duflu was actually saying there was a mir bug there
[18:34] <mterry> kgunn, that it should notice it got stolen
[18:34] <kgunn> ah
[18:34] <mterry> kgunn, so that might be another solution
[18:34] <kgunn> vongons ^ anyone aware of that one ?
[18:35] <kgunn> mir getting screen taken by getty
[18:35] <kgunn> (....and is it getty or agetty?)
[18:38] <kgunn> mterry: ok, as i am reading...i just realized that not declaring security-template default is not the same as declared security-template but empty default
[18:39] <kgunn> so i think i need to rebuild...as i just commented that out
[18:39] <mterry> kgunn, it might be agetty
[18:39] <mterry> kgunn, huh... it should be the same? if you just don't have that line at all, it should use the default
[18:42] <kgunn> mterry: how do you read https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/security-policy/
[18:42] <kgunn> "Defining snap policy"
[18:42] <kgunn> When caps and security-template are not specified, caps defaults to client networking.
[18:42] <kgunn> vs
[18:43] <kgunn> security-template: (optional) alternate security template to use instead of default. When specified without caps, caps defaults to being empty. Not compatible with security-override or security-policy
[18:43] <kgunn> Additional access beyond what is allowed by the declared security-template is declared via this option
[18:44] <mterry> huh
[18:44] <mterry> well, if you leave out both, you'll be fine right?
[18:44] <mterry> you don't care if caps includes networking
[18:44] <mterry> kgunn, ^
[18:46] <mterry> gotta run, bbl
[19:50] <mterry> kgunn, heyo -- any progress on apparmor security stuff?
[19:50] <mterry> grr, missed
[19:56] <anpok> hum
[19:56] <anpok> nexus10 provides pressure, touch major AND orientation.. but no minor .. or tool width..
[20:34] <racarr> ...*bangs head on desk*
[20:35] <racarr> I've been testing this scenario for like a day and wondering where events dissapear too
[20:35] <racarr> and I forgot about the input filters in mir_demo_server
[20:35] <racarr> ....lol
[20:35] <racarr> got some good tests out of it at least
[20:49] <ahayzen> Hi, I tried to run unity8 via LXC as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8inLXC on Intel ivy bridge hardware, but when i start the session the mouse appears, the welcome wizard appears for a split second then disappears and reloads itself going into a loop. Meanwhile the CPU/disk start increasing in load as I assume apport or something is going mental in the background. Is there anything I can do to see what is causing the welcome wizard to crash?
[20:55] <ChrisTownsend> ahayzen: Hi! Try looking in ~/.cache/upstart/unity8.log and see what it may be spewing out. Also use top and see what process is running at the high load.
[20:59] <ahayzen> ChrisTownsend, hmm nothing obvious in the log, how am i supposed to run $ top if i can't switch tty ?
[20:59] <ChrisTownsend> ahayzen: Do you have ssh set up on the machine?
[20:59] <ahayzen> not yet ;-)
[21:00] <ChrisTownsend> Hmm, yeah, then no top.
[21:00] <ahayzen> heh i'm gonna have to SSH in via my ubuntu phone to debug my desktop aren't I? lol
[21:00] <ChrisTownsend> It sounds like Unity 8 is having some issue, but it's hard to tell what though. I haven't seen that behavior.
[21:01] <ChrisTownsend> lol, the irony!
[21:02] <ChrisTownsend> ahayzen: Is your user's home in the standard place, ie, /home/$user
[21:02] <ahayzen> i would assume, all i did was follow the instructions
[21:03] <popey> he
[21:03] <ChrisTownsend> ahayzen: The Unity8 LXC bind mounts your normal user's home directory. If it's the standard, then yeah.
[21:03] <ahayzen> (the ones that popey gave me) #blamepopey
[21:03] <popey> I get the same black screen here
[21:03] <popey> yup yup
[21:04] <ahayzen> i was at Oxfordgeeknights last night and another person on intel hardware said he had the same
[21:04] <ChrisTownsend> Hmm, to me, welcome wizard reload over and over is a bit different than the black screen.
[21:04] <ChrisTownsend> ahayzen: What version of Ubuntu is your host?
[21:04] <ahayzen> it like flashes up for a split second then goes blank then comes up again in a loop, but the mouse stays visible and useable throughout
[21:04] <ahayzen> vivid
[21:05] <popey> I'm on wily
[21:06] <ChrisTownsend> ahayzen: Ok. Anything abnormal in /var/log/lightdm/unity-system-compositor.log?
[21:06] <ChrisTownsend> popey: Black screen sounds like a u-s-c issue. Have you looked in the file I just noted?
[21:06] <ahayzen> WARNING: QApplication was not created in the main() thread. ... then lots of Opening session session-0
[21:06] <ahayzen> Closing session session-0
[21:06] <popey> no, will try now
[21:07] <ChrisTownsend> ahayzen: Sounds pretty normal. I'm kind of stumped.:-(
[21:07] <ahayzen> hmm let me update it, rerun and get some fresh unity8 logs
[21:08] <ChrisTownsend> ahayzen: Ok. I need to go in a few minutes. I'll be around tomorrow. You can also file a bug against unity8-lxc and I'll take a look.
[21:08] <ahayzen> ChrisTownsend, ok thanks for your help
[21:08] <ChrisTownsend> ahayzen: Are you using the PPA or the version from the archive?
[21:08] <ahayzen> PPA IIRC
[21:09] <ChrisTownsend> ahayzen: Ok, that's good.
[21:09] <ahayzen> yeah ppa:unity8-desktop-session-team/unity8-preview-lxc
[21:09] <popey> i ave no unity8.log
[21:09] <ChrisTownsend> ahayzen: Yeah, that's best. I'll try it on my Vivid machine and see what happens.
[21:10] <ChrisTownsend> popey: Yeah, look at /var/log/lightdm/unity-system-compositor.log.
[21:10] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11698588/
[21:10] <ChrisTownsend> popey: Your not even getting Unity 8 started. It's seems like Mir is not happy.
[21:11] <ahayzen> interesting mine isn't too dissimilar http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11698589/
[21:12] <ChrisTownsend> ahayzen: popey: Alright, I think they are different issues. I gotta go though. I'll either ping you or find me tomorrow.
[21:12] <popey> okay
[21:12] <popey> thanks
[21:12] <ahayzen> thanks
[21:12] <popey> ahayzen: lets gang up on him tomorrow :)
[21:12] <ahayzen> popey, hehe :-)
[21:18] <ahayzen> popey, what happens if you run top? I see unity8 using ~90% and ms2 using ~90%
[21:18] <popey> 4653 alan 20 0 2790820 218392 84428 S 102.7 2.7 5:29.18 unity8
[21:18] <popey> ya
[21:18] <popey> i dont have any media on this
[21:18] <popey> unrelated, have you installed tweakgeek?
[21:18] * ahayzen notes to look into ms2 being terrible on desktop
[21:18] <ahayzen> ...no?
[21:19] <popey> install mzanetti's open store, grab tweakgeek from it, run that and you can make terminal live beyond app lifecycle :)
[21:19] <popey> so they run in the background. handy when you want to ssh into something from the device
[21:19] <ahayzen> ooo cool, can we not keep the screen on yet ;-)
[21:20] <popey> not yet
[21:20] <ahayzen> ok that sortof stuff in the unity8 log looks bad.... [1434057338.091424] <ERROR> Mesa/NativeSurface: Caught exception at Mir/EGL driver boundary (in advance_buffer): /build/buildd/mir-0.12.1+15.04.20150324/src/client/rpc/stream_socket_transport.cpp(154): Throw in function virtual void mir::client::rpc::StreamSocketTransport::send_message(const std::vector<unsigned char>&, const std::vector<mir::Fd>&)
[21:20] <ahayzen> Dynamic exception type: N5boost16exception_detail10clone_implINS0_19error_info_injectorIN3mir25socket_disconnected_errorEEEEE
[21:20] <ahayzen> std::exception::what: Failed to send message to server: Broken pipe
[21:20] <ahayzen> 32, "Broken pipe"
[21:20] <ahayzen> my full unity8 http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11698632/
[21:22] <ahayzen> popey, shall i report a bug with ^^ ?
[21:22] <mzanetti> ahayzen, well... you can install bigmovingtext from openstore ;)
[21:22] <mzanetti> that can keep the display lit
[21:23] <ahayzen> i have the normal bigmovingtext...
[21:23] <mzanetti> ahayzen, that boost exception happens when something tries to grab an invalid screen buffer
[21:23] <mzanetti> I think
[21:23] <mzanetti> where did you get it?
[21:23] <ahayzen> there is alot of them :-)
[21:23] <ahayzen> from .cache/upstart/unity8.log
[21:24] <ahayzen> when running on a vivid ivy-bridge laptop with unity8 in LXC
[21:24] <mzanetti> oh, I see
[21:25] <mzanetti> hmm. not sure then what it is
[21:25] <mzanetti> ahayzen, you might want to stop by in #ubuntu-unity tomorrow and talk to greyback about it
[21:25] <ahayzen> ok :-)
[21:28] <popey> pass ahayzen
[21:29] <ahayzen> we'll be really nice to everyone and bug them late friday then :-)
[21:29] <popey> \o/
[22:03] <AlbertA> ahayzen: that exception just means the server died or got shut down while the client was still alive
[22:03] <AlbertA> so if it's in unity8 log, then I guess because USC died...
[22:30] <ahayzen> AlbertA, interesting
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-ko
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[00:05] <jun_> 안녕하세요~~~~
[00:05] <Seony> 안녕하세요
[00:05] <jun_> 벌써(?) 목요일입니다~
[00:05] <jun_> Seony 님 오랫만에 뵈요~ ㅎㅎㅎ
[00:06] <Seony> 네 ㅎㅎ 그러네요
[00:07] <jun_> 오늘 비온다는 소식이 있어서 그런가... 무지 습해서 덥네요
[00:07] <Seony> 아직 에어컨 안틀어주나봐요
[00:09] <ircCloud^Seony> 제 맥이 상태가 안좋아서... 재설치 해야겠습니다.
[00:10] <jun_> 에어컨 틀어주는데요...
[00:10] <jun_> 그 마의 사각지대 있잖아요 ㅎㅎ
[00:10] <jun_> 에어컨이랑 멀지는 않은데 안시원한 그 자리;;;
[00:10] <Seony> 아 ㅎㅎ 저런..
[00:11] <jun_> 30CM만 옆으로 가도 추워죽을라고 하는 그 자리;;;
[00:12] <autowiz> 천정에 A4 용지 만한플라스틱 준님 방향으로 설치하시면
[00:12] <autowiz> 바람이 좀 오지 않을까요?
[00:12] <autowiz> 다들 그렇게 하는거 같던데요
[00:12] <bluedusk> 왜 제 맥은 세관통관을 못하고 있죠?
[00:12] <autowiz> 추운사람은 막고 더운사람은 바람 좀 가져가고 ㅎㅎ
[00:12] <bluedusk> autowiz, 어케 된일인가요??
[00:12] <autowiz> 블더님 스킬이 넘 높아서 미국에서 감시하고 있어서 그런거 아닐까요?
[00:13] <bluedusk> -_-?
[00:13] <ircCloud^Seony> ㅎㅎㅎ 애간장 타시겠군요
[00:13] <autowiz> 그냥 물량이 많아서 거나
[00:13] <bluedusk> 이틀이나 세관통관을 못하고 잇는데요?
[00:14] <bluedusk> dhl로 오는데
[00:14] <autowiz> 메르스 하고는 상관없을텐데요 ㅠㅠ
[00:14] <bluedusk> 아 너무하네요 ㅠㅠ
[00:14] <jun_> 맥과 메르스;;;;;ㅎㅎㅎ
[00:14] <autowiz> 어짜피 신규물품 새로 사는거니까
[00:14] <autowiz> 세관 절차는 정해져 있는거고
[00:14] <autowiz> 가격도 몇 % 정해져 있는걸텐데요 . 하루이틀 장사하는것도 아니고
[00:14] <autowiz> 그냥 물건이 많았나 보다 하시고 기다리시지요~~
[00:18] <ircCloud^Seony> 세관 일하는 사람들이 배가 아픈가봐요 ㅋ
[00:18] <ircCloud^Seony> 자기네들은 엑스피 설치된 골동품 쓰는데, 누구는 맥북 쓰고 ㅗㅎㅎ
[00:18] <bluedusk> autowiz, 제가 직구 하는게 아니고
[00:19] <bluedusk> 한국 애플 스토어에서 사는거라
[00:19] <bluedusk> 그런건 저랑 상관없는 일인데요
[00:19] <bluedusk> 하루이틀 하는것도 아닐텐데
[00:19] <bluedusk> 아아
[00:20] <autowiz> ㅎㅎㅎ
[00:20] <autowiz> 세관에 ubuntu 를 설치해주고싶은데 말이지요 ㅋㅋㅋ
[00:29] <autowiz> groly 라는 단어가 있네요 ㅋㅋ
[00:34] <autowiz> 블더님
[00:38] <autowiz> 그냥 잘 계신가 해서 요 ㅎㅎ
[00:51] <bluedusk> 전 이미 죽어 있다는 소문이 있죠
[00:58] <autowiz> 음... 리치 라던가 드래군이라던가
[00:59] <autowiz> 이미 죽어있거나 이미 늙어 있는건 아닌가? 지금내가 자각하고 있는건 그냥 추억이 아닌가 하는생각을 초딩때인가 중딩때 인가 해봤던 적이 있었드랬지요...
[01:00] <autowiz> 우리 사는 우주고 실은 길거리에 있는 조그만 모래알 하나 인건 아닌가 하는 생각도 해봤고
[01:00] <autowiz> 우주고 -> 우주가
[01:10] <autowiz> 피터님 안녕하세요
[01:10] <ipeter> 안녕하세요?
[01:10] <ipeter> 에휴
[01:10] <ipeter> 저도 주식이라는것을 해보네요.
[01:10] <ipeter> 모든게 게임이라는말
[01:10] <ipeter> 구구절절히 느껴집니다.
[01:10] <ipeter> 뭐 아주 단타 그런건 아니구요.
[01:10] <ipeter> 장기적으로 보려고 샀는데 약간은 긴장되네요.
[01:11] <jun_> 안녕하세요~ 주식을;;;ㄷㄷㄷ
[01:11] <autowiz> 가급적이면 그냥 마음을 내려놓고 하시길 권해드립니다.
[01:12] <autowiz> 저는 주식 안해봤는데
[01:12] <autowiz> 별로 재미있어보이진 않더군요
[01:12] <autowiz> 투자 시간 , 노력대비 그다지 매력 없어보여서
[01:12] <ipeter> 그냥 때려박고 지켜보려구요
[01:12] <autowiz> 그나저나 어느회사꺼 사셨어요?
[01:12] <ipeter> 불안정한 놈들에 넣어두진 않았지만
[01:12] <ipeter> 전 생명쪽해서 바이오쪽 넣었어요.
[01:25] <PotatoGim> 안녕하세요~~
[01:32] <razGon_MINILA> 저는 신재생에너지와 ESS쪽이 괜찮다고 봅니다.
[01:32] <razGon_MINILA> 장기로..
[01:32] <razGon_MINILA> 올해로는 핀테크가 대세구요.
[01:32] <razGon_MINILA> 이쪽이 접점이고 바이오는 메르스가 가라앉으면 괜찮을겁니다.
[01:33] <razGon_MINILA> 재조명 받기는 하겟죠.
[01:33] <razGon_MINILA> 근데 실적이 무조건 받쳐줘야 합니다. 미국이 9월 금리인상에 가닥을 아주 크게 잡고 있어서
[01:33] <razGon_MINILA> 오늘 한국은행의 금리인하는 마지막입니다.
[01:34] <razGon_MINILA> 앞으로는 금리는 낮은데 대출금리가 증가되는 아이러니컬한 현상이 벌어질수도 이ㅣㅆ겟군요..
[01:35] <razGon_MINILA> 내년까지 본다면 하이닉스 괜찮을 겁니다. 낸드플레시에 대한 물량을 뽑아내기 시작하면 이익이 나올테니.
[01:35] <razGon_MINILA> 대신 그사이 동안은 지지부진할거에요.
[01:35] <razGon_MINILA> 헉...
[01:35] <razGon_MINILA> 이방에 쓸내용이 아니군요..^^::
[01:35] <razGon_MINILA> 여기까지.
[01:37] <razGon_MINILA> 한가지 말씀드리자면 지금은 주식쉬시고 추석부터 하시거나 아니면 실적이 나오는 글로벌한 기업에게 투자하시는 게 좋습니다.
[01:37] <razGon_MINILA> 참고로 화장품이나 상승하는 제약바이오는 상투입니다.
[01:37] <bluedusk> 어
[01:37] <razGon_MINILA> 셀트리온은 나중에 들가세요.
[01:38] <bluedusk> 회장님이다
[01:39] <razGon_MINILA> ^^ 어서 오세요..ㅎ
[01:40] <ipeter> 라즈곤님께 한번 수업 들어야겠네요.
[01:40] <ipeter> 지금은 벌써 마이너스 40찍었습니다.ㅎㅎㅎ
[01:41] <ipeter> 9월 금리인상이 아주 클듯해요.
[01:41] <ipeter> 오전중에 금리 고정이나 인하 할듯 싶네요.
[01:41] <ipeter> 9월 미국, 오늘 한국
[01:47] <razGon_MINILA> 금리 인하하는 순간 주가는 더빠짐니다..
[01:47] <razGon_MINILA> ㅇ왜? 마지막 카드를 쓴거거든ㅇ요..
[01:47] <razGon_MINILA> 아마도 금리는 동결할것입니다.
[01:49] <razGon_MINILA> HSBC은행은 아시아의 이머징마켓에 상당히 호의적인데. 한국에서 투자할만한 대기업은 하이닉스 밖에 ㅇ없다더군요
[01:56] <ipeter> 나중에 뫼시고 한번 수업듣겠습니다.
[02:04] <razGon_MINILA> ^^;; 하수에요.
[02:04] <razGon_MINILA> 금리인하햇네요
[02:30] <ipeter> 네 인하했습니다.
[02:30] <ipeter> 근데 제가 할줄을 몰라서
[02:30] <ipeter> 개장하고 나서 오르는가격에 너무 비싸게 사서 오늘은 전부 손해네요.
[02:31] <razGon_MINILA> 장기로 가신다면 장종에 매수하시는 게 좋아요.
[02:31] <razGon_MINILA> 원래 매수하려는 종목을 분할로 일주일간 5번 나누어서 매수하시는게 좋습니다.
[02:31] <razGon_MINILA> 주봉을 기준으로 보시고 일봉에서 기회를 찾으시는 거구요
[02:32] <ipeter> 휴..
[02:32] <ipeter> 진작 라즈곤님 영접했어야 했는데..ㅠ
[02:32] <razGon_MINILA> 에이... 중ㅇ이 제머리도 못깎으면서 훈수는..ㅠㅠ
[02:32] <razGon_MINILA> 저는 더해요.ㅋㅋ
[02:39] <Seony> 주식들 하시는군요...
[02:40] <Seony> 예전에 금융기관에서 일할 때, 투자상담사 자격증 공부할 때 잠깐 봤었는데 쉽지않더라구요 ㅎㅎ
[02:55] <ipeter> 써니님은 정말 꼭 필요한 존재.
[02:55] <ipeter> ㅋㅋ
[02:56] <ipeter> 써니님은 정말 꼭 필요한 존재.
[02:56] <ipeter> ㅋㅋㅋ
[02:56] <ipeter> 주식 하시나요?
[02:56] <ircCloud^Seony> ㅎㅎ 아뇨 전 안해요
[02:56] <ipeter> 전 솔직히 투자금도 몇푼 안되고
[02:56] <ipeter> 그냥 넣어두고 오래 기다릴 심산이라서요.
[02:58] <ircCloud^Seony> 저는 확률에 의존하는 것은 상당히 싫어하는 편입니다
[02:58] <ircCloud^Seony> 그래서 카드게임 같은 것도 싫어하고, 도박/노름도 아예 흥미가 없어요
[02:59] <autowiz> 그냥 친구들과 재미로 카드하는건 재미있었습니다.
[02:59] <autowiz> 신기한게 거의 매번 초반에는 제가 따다가 후만으로 가면 제가 꼴지를 하고 그래서
[02:59] <autowiz> 치킨이나 피자는 거의 제가 사는 경우가 많았습니다. ㅋㅋ
[03:00] <ipeter> 저도 사실 확율은 좀 별로..
[03:01] <ipeter> 그냥 이것도 은행보다는 그냥 주식에 넣어두는게 조금이라도 더 나을꺼 같아서요.
[03:01] <Seony> 안정적으로 가시려면 은행이고, 조금 위험을 감수하더라도 수익이 중요하면 주식이죠 ㅎㅎ
[03:17] <razGon_MINILA> 장기 펀드로 하신다면 미금리가 증가 되니 물가랑 관련되는 원자제나 농산물 펀드.
[03:17] <razGon_MINILA> 미래를 보면 신재생 에너지. 2차전지쪽.
[03:18] <razGon_MINILA> 이머징 마켓을 보면 중국과 중앙아시아 인프라 펀드.
[03:18] <razGon_MINILA> 뭐 이렇게 봅니다.
[03:24] <HolyKnight> http://media.daum.net/society/others/newsview?newsid=20150611030811619
[03:25] <HolyKnight> 차이나펀드
[03:25] <HolyKnight> 한달만에 수익 15퍼 기록중임미다.
[03:25] <HolyKnight> 고위험등급이쥬
[03:25] <razGon_MINILA> http://www.thegear.co.kr/8386
[03:26] <razGon_MINILA> 샤오미에서 공유기형 나스 판매.
[03:26] <razGon_MINILA> 1테라 12만.
[03:26] <razGon_MINILA> 문제는 CPU겟네요.
[03:26] <razGon_MINILA> 차이나펀드 조정 보일거라 생각되요. 상해A기준 한2천 포인트
[03:32] <autowiz> 생각보다 많이들 하시는군요 ㅎㅎ
[03:35] <HolyKnight> 허
[03:35] <HolyKnight> 대박기대하긴 들렸군유
[03:49] <razGon_MINILA> 사신다면 휴가이후나 춘절 이후에...
[03:55] <HolyKnight> 이미....
[04:00] <ipeter> 일단 지금 넣은거 7월 말까지만 놓아두었다가 9월 이후 다시 해봐야겠네요.
[04:00] <ipeter> 오늘 제가 머리털나고 처음 구매해서
[04:00] <ipeter> 실수했어요.
[04:00] <ipeter> 시장 열었을때 오르는거 그때 구매해서 너무 비싸게 구매해버렸네요.
[04:00] <ipeter> 벌써 40만원돈 손실.
[04:00] <ipeter> ㅋㅋㅋ
[04:36] <autowiz> 장 마감전에 좀 오르지 않나요?
[04:40] <ipeter> 글쎄요.
[04:40] <ipeter> 두고봐야겠죠.
[04:40] <ipeter> 전 사실 주식 1일차라서요.
[04:40] <ipeter> 1일차
[04:40] <ipeter> ㅋㅋㅋ
[05:19] <HolyKnight> @p_book: 첫번째 문장이 신박하다. 첫번째 문장이 맞으려면 "줄줄이 피고가 패소하고 있습니다"로 쓰였어야 했는데 트윗 작성자가 자신을 당연하다는 듯 피고에 이입, 해당 단어를 생략해 버렸다. https://twitter.com/mbcnews/status/608493774424125440
[05:36] <HolyKnight> @hongminhee: 사람들이 경기를 일으키는 공인인증서의 문제는 사실 공인인증서의 (ActiveX 등을 이용한) 구현의 문제인데, 이제 와서는 뭐가 더 문제냐 하면, 공인인증서라는 것은 좋은 생각이고 구현에 따라 더 편할 수도 있는데 무조건 나쁜 걸로 여겨지게 됐다는 것
[05:49] <chen_> 안녕하세요.
[05:49] <bluedusk> 안녕하세요
[05:50] <chen_> 다름이 아니라 혹시 SVN 관련해서 조언을 구하고자 합니다.
[05:51] <jun_> SVN? 전 컴맹이라 도움이 못될것 같습니다. 패스!
[05:51] <chen_> 하위 폴더에 권한 설정이 잘 안되서요.
[05:52] <chen_> 다른분 게시판 글 보던중 띄어쓰기가 잘못 되었다고 하는데... 그부분이 이해가 안가서 그렇습니다.
[07:11] <HolyKnight> 펌) 코드를 주욱 따라 읽죠. 읽을 때 호흡이 멈추게 되며 논리의 전개가 지적 허영을 자극하면서도 오버하지 않는 선을 지키며, 언어가 주는 장점에 충실하여 설계가 그것을 돋보이도록 만들어 주고 있다면, 그것이 우아한 것 아니겠습니까?
[08:10] <PotatoGim> RazGon_MINILA: 오오.. 샤오미도 공유기 나스를 만드네요..
[08:11] <PotatoGim> 울 회사 문 닫으면 안되는데...ㅜㅜ
[08:15] <bluedusk> ㅋㅋㅋ
[08:16] <bluedusk> 아놔 저 맥에서 에디터 뭐썻는지 기억이 안나요
[08:16] <bluedusk> atom 썻었나...
[08:26] <PotatoGim> 능력이 모자라서 딴데 드갈 곳이 엄쓰요...ㅜ
[08:48] <bluedusk_> autowiz,
[08:48] <bluedusk_> 저
[08:48] <bluedusk_> 맥북 샀어요
[08:53] <pchero_work> bluedusk_: 축하드립니다. ㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[08:54] <HolyKnight> ㅊㅋㅊㅋ
[08:56] <bluedusk_> 감사합니다.
[09:04] <jun_> 우와~ 축하드려요~
[09:05] <jun_> 혹시 실례가 안된다면... 얼마주고 구입하셨는지..
[09:09] <bluedusk_> 180 정도되요
[09:10] <bluedusk_> 13인치 젤 낮은 기본사양에서 램만 업글
[09:10] <jun_> 오호~
[09:10] <bluedusk_> 지르세요
[09:10] <bluedusk_> 인생 뭐 있나요
[09:10] <bluedusk_> 지르고 사는거죠
[09:10] <jun_> 역시 맥북이 비싸긴 비싸네요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[09:10] <jun_> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[09:10] <PotatoGim> ㅊㅊ
[09:10] <PotatoGim> 한번 사는 인생이니 가는 길에 잔고 없이...
[09:11] <razGon_MINILA> bluedusk_, 경축드립니다..
[09:11] <bluedusk_> razGon_MINILA, 감사합니다. (__)
[09:14] <jun_> 전 처자식도 없는데;;;;
[09:14] <jun_> 왜 잔고가 매번 0인지;;;ㅎㅎㅎ
[09:15] <bluedusk_> 전 처자식도 여자도 술도 안마시고 담배도 안피는데 잔고가 마이너스임
[09:17] <jun_> 으헹??
[09:20] <PotatoGim> 아.. 메일링 리스트가 많이 쌓이니 보는 것도 귀찮아지네요..
[09:36] <jun_> 저는 퇴근하겠습니다~ 모두 수고하세요~
[10:25] <autowiz> 어 블더님
[10:25] <autowiz> 맥북 오는중이라고 ㅎㅎ 혹시 도착한건가요?
[12:12] <ipeter> gjf
[12:12] <ipeter> 헐
[12:12] <ipeter> 누구는 주식으로 40만원 잃었는데.
[12:12] <ipeter> ㅠㅠ
[12:13] <autowiz> 저는 오늘 0 그대로 입니다 ㅋㅋ
[12:19] <ipeter> ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[12:19] <ipeter> 주식 않하는게 돈 따는 거예요
[12:22] <autowiz> 뭐 꼭 그렇지 만도 않지요
[12:22] <autowiz> 하는게 돈버는거일때도 많을테니까
[23:46] <HolyKnight> @imaum0217: 억울한 일에 대해 '구래 ~하지 않은 내가 잘못이지 뭐'이렇게 넘어가게 될 경우, 후에 다른 사람이 비슷하게 억울한 일을 당했을 때 경험한 대로 '쨋든 ~하지 않은 네 잘못'이라고 반응하게 되기 쉬운 듯.
[23:55] <autowiz> 맥북 사신 블더님 안녕하세요
[23:55] <autowiz> ㅋㅋ
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-release
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[00:09] <infinity> tjaalton: Around?
[04:16] <tjaalton> infinity: off this week. xorg metapkg isn't uploaded yet btw..
[05:21] <infinity> tjaalton: xorg-lts-vivid, you mean (which is in the queue), or something else?
[05:21] <infinity> tjaalton: Also, I rejected one of your uploads, would be nice if you could look at that, despite the VAC.
[05:28] <tjaalton> infinity: oh i uploaded it? ok.. i'll check the other one
[05:40] <tjaalton> infinity: looks like -qxl doesn't follow the same packaging as rest, so there's some tarball diff
[05:40] <tjaalton> or such
[05:42] <infinity> tjaalton: That crufty weirdness didn't happen between utopic and lts-utopic, FWIW.
[05:42] <infinity> tjaalton: And nothing in the utopic->vivid diff would have caused that.
[05:42] <infinity> tjaalton: So, I assume it was just a dirty tree when building lts-vivid.
[05:43] <tjaalton> weird
[05:43] <tjaalton> i use the source from apt get
[05:43] <infinity> tjaalton: Err, wait. WAT?
[05:43] <tjaalton> pulled the source package from vivid
[05:44] <tjaalton> renamed
[05:44] <infinity> tjaalton: qxl is native in utopic/lts-utopic, and vivid. Where did that orig magically come from for lts-vivid?
[05:44] <tjaalton> debuild
[05:44] <tjaalton> oh
[05:44] <tjaalton> grr
[05:44] <infinity> tjaalton: That orig is likely the culprit. :P
[05:44] <tjaalton> shitfuck
[05:44] <tjaalton> ok i'll delete the orig then
[05:45] <infinity> Where did it even come from? :)
[05:45] <infinity> Given that there's no orig in vivid... So confused.
[05:46] <infinity> But yeah, I'd assume unpacking vivid, running rename mojo on it, and building source withut the orig should give you a nice, small diff.
[05:46] <infinity> tjaalton: And assuming xorg-lts-vivid is the last piece of the puzzle, then you can rest without me bugging you.
[05:46] <infinity> tjaalton: And I might have functional dailies for you to test when you get back.
[05:46] <tjaalton> and now the debdiff makes sense
[05:47] <tjaalton> the rename script was buggy for a reason then!
[05:48] <tjaalton> it would happily build the source for you without a proper tarball
[05:48] <tjaalton> qxl uploaded again
[05:49] <tjaalton> infinity: yeah apparently i uploaded the metapkg at some point, so it should be all good then
[05:50] <infinity> tjaalton: Alright, lemme quickly re-review this.
[05:51] <infinity> tjaalton: That looks much saner, thanks.
[05:51] <tjaalton> cool
[05:52] <tjaalton> time for bf ->
[11:04] <sil2100> Hello everyone! I would need to disable the importer on nusakan again for a while
[15:45] * Laney looks at stgraber
[15:46] <Laney> iso tracker halp? :)
[15:48] <stgraber> Laney: hey
[15:48] <stgraber> Laney: what's up?
[15:48] <stgraber> (sorry, been taking some days off this past week so may have missed some pings)
[15:48] <Laney> no worries
[15:49] <Laney> how can I add a new 'owner' team?
[15:51] <stgraber> Laney: is that for a new product?
[15:51] <Laney> no, I want to set one for desktop-next
[15:52] <stgraber> ok, it's not exactly the easiest thing in the world :)
[15:52] <stgraber> first you have to go create a new role, that's in the admin interface under user IIRC
[15:52] <Laney> I see a list here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/products/363/edit
[15:52] <stgraber> once done, go to the permissions tab and make sure that the permissions for the new role matches that of a similar product owner team
[15:53] <Laney> ah, that'll get it in there I suppose
[15:53] <stgraber> once that's done, go to the LP team module configuration and setup a new mapping between the LP team and the role you created
[15:53] <stgraber> once you've done that, you can go and edit the product to assign it the role
[15:53] <Laney> I don't have user in there
[15:53] <stgraber> oh, you're probably not admin enough :)
[15:54] <Laney> oh man, there are higher levels of power?
[15:54] <stgraber> and stupid 3G here has busted routes to SSO
[15:54] <stgraber> let me proxy through a server somewhere so I can actually login
[15:58] <stgraber> ok, I'm logged in
[15:59] <stgraber> Laney: what's the LP team?
[15:59] <Laney> ~ubuntu-desktop-next-release
[16:05] <stgraber> Laney: role should be setup now
[16:05] <stgraber> Laney: I'm EODing now and about to leave till Monday, do you need anything else from me?
[16:06] <Laney> stgraber: not if it works
[16:06] <Laney> happy holidays!
[16:06] <Laney> and thanks
[16:07] <Laney> ah wait, it's not posting to the tracker it seems
[16:08] <stgraber> Laney: btw, those with admin access for that kind of stuff are ~ubuntu-qa-website-devel
[16:08] <Laney> ah, maybe it doesn't have to be
[16:08] <stgraber> No iso.qa.ubuntu.com product found for ubuntu-desktop-next/daily-preinstalled/wily-preinstalled-desktop-next-i386; skipping.
[16:08] <stgraber> No iso.qa.ubuntu.com product found for ubuntu-desktop-next/daily-preinstalled/wily-preinstalled-desktop-next-armhf; skipping.
[16:08] <Laney> etc/qa-products?
[16:09] <stgraber> yep
[16:09] <Laney> k, will fix
[16:09] <Laney> will that break triggering the rebuild?
[16:09] <stgraber> qa-products is used both by the build script and process-rebuilds so yeah, you need to fix this
[16:10] <Laney> ok then
[16:10] <Laney> I'll hassle you on monday if it doesn't work by then
[16:10] <stgraber> ok :)
[16:10] <stgraber> rebuild-requests can be run in dry-run and verbose mode to see if the change works
[16:10] <stgraber> as for publishing, look at the end of the build log: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntu-desktop-next/wily/daily-preinstalled-20150611.log
[16:17] * Laney tries a test build
[16:18] * stgraber -> out
[17:01] <sil2100> I'll have to disable the importer again...
[17:01] <sil2100> ...or maybe not
[17:36] <coreycb> hello, can we have python3-tempest-lib and python3-paramiko promoted to main please?
[17:39] <infinity> coreycb: I don't see anything on my reports indicating that they're being pulled in.
[17:40] <coreycb> infinity, do I need an MIR for them? the python 2 binary packages are in main.
[17:41] <infinity> coreycb: No, you don't need an MIR. But you need something uploaded that depends on them, or to have them explicitly seeded with a rationale.
[17:41] <infinity> coreycb: If your intent was the former, please upload, and we'll clean it up.
[17:42] <coreycb> infinity, ok I still need to get the package in that depends on python3-tempest-lib, but there's already a dep on python3-paramiko: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-tempest-lib/0.5.0-1/+build/7528029
[17:43] <infinity> coreycb: You do, however, need an MIR for python-ddt.
[17:44] <coreycb> infinity, we have one somewhere, lemme find it
[17:44] <infinity> And I'm very confused about why none of this is showing up on my mismatches reports. Hrm.
[17:44] <coreycb> infinity, bug 1459151
[17:44] <infinity> coreycb: Ta.
[17:51] <infinity> coreycb: Should all be promoted.
[17:51] <coreycb> infinity, great, thanks!
[17:51] <infinity> coreycb: Or, will be once a publisher cycle happens.
[17:52] <infinity> coreycb: By "all", I mean the two packages in that MIR, and paramiko.
[17:52] <infinity> coreycb: tempest will want love after you upload something else that needs it.
[17:52] <coreycb> infinity, yep, got it
[19:37] <infinity> coreycb: tempest still has an issue.
[19:38] <infinity> coreycb: It build-depends on python3-oslo.log and python-oslo.log, but those don't actually exist. They're -log, not .log
[19:39] <infinity> coreycb: Oh, nevermind, the new .log just hasn't built yet.
[19:39] <infinity> La la la.
[19:39] <infinity> This namespace renaming is such a mess.
[19:42] <coreycb> infinity, yeah jamespage worked through a bunch of those to rename them back to .log recently. anything needed from us?
[19:42] <infinity> coreycb: Not yet. I'll keep babysitting and see where it ends up.
[19:43] <coreycb> infinity, ok thanks
[19:44] <infinity> coreycb: Oh, filling in all the MIR info for LP: #1464158 would help. That seems to be the next snag.
[19:51] <coreycb> infinity, ok I'll do that
[21:28] <coreycb> infinity, I've updated that MIR bug for python-debtcollector and python-wrapt
[21:29] <infinity> coreycb: Thanks.
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-motu
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[02:02] <slackner> micahg: ping?
[02:02] <micahg> slackner: hi, I guess we haven't heard back
[02:02] <micahg> I need to figure out what's next now...
[02:02] <slackner> micahg: nope, unfortunately not :( no sign of life
[02:08] <slackner> micahg: well, what do you suggest as the next steps?
[02:12] <micahg> slackner: was the goal to be an alternative to wine in Ubuntu?
[02:14] <slackner> micahg: yes, either as package which provides wine, or a package which can be installed independently
[02:14] <DarkPlayer> micahg: from our point, both options are okay. Fedora replaced wine with wine staging about a year ago
[02:14] <slackner> micahg: alternatively, it might also be possible to replace wine, but not sure if thats a good idea
[02:25] <micahg> slackner: well, I can start by reviewing your package, do you have the bug # handy?
[02:25] <micahg> oh, I've got it, bug 1437520
[02:26] <micahg> Any interest in maintaining in Debian vs Ubuntu?
[02:26] <micahg> oh, have to run, I'll be back in about 45 minutes
[02:27] <micahg> if you have to run, I'll try to look at your package in the next day or so
[02:27] <micahg> hrm
[02:27] <micahg> no, probably won't be until the weekend
[02:27] <micahg> already have others to review :(
[02:27] <slackner> micahg: yep, thats the right one. the source (including packaging files) is available at: https://github.com/wine-compholio/wine-staging - i am pretty sure thought that it might need some changes, our package is a bit special to allow installation parallel to regular wine
[02:27] <micahg> ok
[02:27] <slackner> i'll still be there in 45 min, if you have time afterwards
[02:27] <micahg> ok
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.459787
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2015-06-11-#lubuntu
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[06:15] <Poop4Brains> ChanServ Drone` acecipherzero airtonix amofiuhr_ AndrewLe1 Auctus benonsoftware Church cYmen_ daker DalekSec dkessel DLange drkokandy dte dust dzho Eliz elky gsilvapt happy-dude hggdh holstein hyperair i_pity_da_foo ianorlyn IdleOne jgknight JohnDoe_71Rus joshtau Kamilion kg krytarik LarrySteeze lewellyn Metacity mpmctoo NegativeFlare nolsen
[06:15] <Poop4Brains> nopf Noskcaj ochosi OmahLinux pAt_ penguin1263 phunyguy Pici platt_ pleia2 Poop4Brains Sachiru schmidtm sfr^ spicypixel teward The_Eccentric TheSchaf Tm_T tsimpson ubottu ubuntulog Unit193 WildSoft wxl xMopxShell yofel
[06:15] <joshtau> okay here we go
[06:17] <Kamilion> yes?
[06:21] <hyperair> lol
[19:48] <Finetundra> can I ask questions about lxqt here?
[19:49] <whytrytofly> hello
[19:49] <whytrytofly> does anyone know how to bind maximize to a key
[19:50] <Finetundra> hi
[19:50] <whytrytofly> i only have fullscreen but not the operation that i get from double clicking onto a windows bar
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.461900
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-pl
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[12:07] <drathir> bry...
[12:25] <totalizator> gada RR
[15:58] <rookie> czesc jestem mega poczatkujacy i nigdzie nie moge sie doczytac wiec prosze pomozcie:) chce pogadac z bratem na drugim kompie w domowej sieci za pomoca komendy write ale jak wpisuje komende who to wyswietla ze tylko ja jestem w sieci :/
[15:59] <xaxes`> a te komendy nie działały tylko lokalnie?
[16:01] <rookie> xaxes: jestesmy podlaczeni do tego samego routera, please help :)
[16:02] <xaxes`> mam na myśli lokalnie → na jednym komputerrze
[16:02] <xaxes`> nie w sieci
[16:02] <rookie> aha
[16:02] <rookie> no wlasnie nie wiem, podejrzalem to dzis w filmie 'blackhat' i chcialem sprobowac :P
[16:03] <rookie> skoro tak to jak mozna to zrobic w podobny sposob w lokalnej sieci? :P
[16:03] <xaxes`> man write
[16:03] <xaxes`> man who
[16:04] <rookie> ehh wiedzialem ze taka odpowiedz dostane ;)
[16:04] <xaxes`> no wybacz, nie znam tych komend
[16:04] <rookie> spoko a mozesz podpowiedziec inne komendy do komunikacji sieciowej przez terminal?
[16:05] <xaxes`> ircd na jednym i jedziesz :D
[16:08] <rookie> nie no serio nie mozna tego zrobic prosciej? :)
[16:10] <TheNumb> netcat
[16:10] <TheNumb> ;D
[16:11] <TheNumb> rookie: jest jeszcze ytalk
[16:11] <TheNumb> rookie: zobacz jeszcze iptux
[16:11] <TheNumb> ten iptux wygląda interesująco
[16:12] <rookie> TheNumb: no siema ;)
[16:12] <TheNumb> no siema?
[16:12] <rookie> czytam wlasnie manuala write i wychodzi na to ze mozna ;)
[16:12] <TheNumb> a
[16:12] <TheNumb> no to do sasesa zażalenia
[16:12] <TheNumb> nie do mnie
[16:12] <xaxes`> tak
[16:12] <xaxes`> na mnie wszystko
[16:12] <TheNumb> no
[16:12] <xaxes`> gdzie ja dokonałem stwierdzenia?
[16:13] <xaxes`> nic na mnie nie macie
[16:13] <rookie> sases.aka.xaxes: nie ma sprawy ;)
[16:13] <TheNumb> http://xmpp.org/protocols/linklocal/
[16:14] <rookie> TheNumb:?
[16:14] <TheNumb> musisz tylko mieć uruchomione avahi i klienta który umie w linklocal
[16:14] <TheNumb> czyli pidgin, emapthy
[16:14] <rookie> dzieki chopaky :] nara :P
[16:14] <TheNumb> ty też spierdalaj
[16:14] <TheNumb> ,_,
[16:40] <jacekowski> ale ale
[16:40] <jacekowski> co to za jezyk
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-kernel
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[11:23] <neoark> linux-cloud-tools-generic-lts-vivid linux-tools-generic-lts-vivid
[11:23] <neoark> are missing dependencies
[11:23] <neoark> anyone know why?
[11:24] <apw> neoark, ?
[11:24] <apw> missing dependancies of what
[11:24] <neoark> no clue apt-get is not updating
[11:24] <apw> those should not exist in the latest packages
[11:24] <neoark> how do i check?
[11:25] <neoark> https://pastee.org/shwud
[11:27] <apw> ahh ok, missread the original, hmmm that looks like an expected dependancy, and one i would expect to exist
[11:27] <apw> linux-cloud-tools-3.19.0-20-generic | 3.19.0-20.20~14.04.1 | trusty-security | amd64, i386
[11:27] <apw> and one which exists in the archive
[11:28] <apw> neoark, what are you doing to trigger that error, what command line is that ... in fact could you pastebin the entire output prompt to prompt
[11:28] <neoark> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu trusty partner
[11:28] <neoark> deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu trusty partner
[11:28] <neoark> have that
[11:28] <neoark> https://pastee.org/j259y
[11:30] <apw> neoark, _just_ that in your sources ?
[11:30] <neoark> apt-get dist-upgrade linux-cloud-tools-generic-lts-vivid linux-tools-generic-lts-vivid -y gives missing depe
[11:30] <neoark> https://pastee.org/8gc2s
[11:31] <neoark> sources
[11:34] <neoark> apw any clue on how to get missing dep?
[11:35] <apw> neoark, i am testing here
[11:35] <neoark> ty
[11:36] <apw> neoark, ok on my T box here it just finds and installs the deps correctly
[11:37] <apw> neoark, could you have out of date apt databased ? I would try and apt-get update
[11:38] <neoark> did that before i did other dist-upgrade i have couple server and its happening on all of them
[11:39] <neoark> W: Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.mirrors.ovh.net/ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/i18n/Translation-en Hash Sum mismatch
[11:39] <neoark> W: Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.mirrors.ovh.net/ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/universe/i18n/Translation-en Hash Sum mismatch
[11:39] <neoark> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[11:39] <neoark> err ovh is so unreliable
[11:41] <apw> hmmm
[11:41] <apw> i wonder if you have a mirroring missmatch then, becuase the indexes i have here are offering me that package just fine
[11:42] <neoark> how to correct it? or OVH has too?
[11:42] <apw> neoark, well one expects mirrors to be in sync by default and to sync up pretty quick when they arn't ... if that is what you have
[11:43] <apw> sudo apt-get install linux-tools-generic-lts-vivid
[11:43] <apw> what does doing one of those say in full on the affected system
[11:44] <neoark> he following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:44] <neoark> linux-tools-generic-lts-vivid : Depends: linux-tools-3.19.0-20-generic but it is not going to be installed
[11:44] <neoark> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[11:46] <neoark> let me switch my sources and try again
[11:47] <apw> that feels like linux-meta-lts-vivid was published but not linux-lts-vivid ... which would be very unusual and doesn't match how the archive is now to my eye
[11:49] <neoark> doesn't work still
[11:51] <neoark> tried https://pastee.org/84m2g still same problem
[11:53] <apw> apt-cache show linux-cloud-tools-3.19.0-20-generic | egrep '(Version|Depends)'
[11:53] <apw> what does that show
[11:54] <neoark> apt-cache show linux-cloud-tools-3.19.0-20-generic | egrep '(Version|Depends)'
[11:54] <neoark> Version: 3.19.0-20.20~14.04.1
[11:54] <neoark> Depends: linux-lts-vivid-cloud-tools-3.19.0-20
[11:54] <apw> neoark, and the same for linux-tools-3.19.0-20-generic ?
[11:55] <neoark> apt-cache show linux-tools-3.19.0-20-generic | egrep '(Version|Depends)'
[11:55] <neoark> Version: 3.19.0-20.20~14.04.1
[11:55] <neoark> Depends: linux-lts-vivid-tools-3.19.0-20
[11:55] <neoark> root@arjun:~#
[11:55] <apw> so that says you have both packages available in your index
[11:55] <neoark> yes
[11:56] <apw> apt-get install linux-tools-lts-vivid
[11:56] <neoark> just can't install them
[11:56] <apw> and that only said the 4 lines you pasted before nothing else ?
[11:56] <neoark> yes
[11:56] <apw> does apt-get install -f
[11:56] <apw> say anything
[11:56] <apw> be very careful about saying yes without reading what it says
[11:56] <neoark> Reading state information... Done
[11:56] <neoark> E: Unable to locate package linux-tools-lts-vivid
[11:57] <apw> what does apt-cache show linux-tools-lts-vivid say
[11:57] <neoark> -f doesn't install
[11:57] <neoark> https://pastee.org/jvs77
[11:58] <neoark> apt-cache show linux-tools-lts-vivid
[11:58] <neoark> N: Unable to locate package linux-tools-lts-vivid
[11:58] <neoark> E: No packages found
[11:58] <apw> hang on ... why is it talking about linux-tools-lts-vivid at all ?
[11:58] <apw> that isn't a package ...
[11:58] <apw> how is that mentioned in instal -f
[11:58] <neoark> https://pastee.org/jvs77 < -f install
[11:59] <apw> ok ... that says a further step dependancy is missing
[11:59] <apw> apt-cache show linux-lts-vivid-tools-3.19.0-20
[12:00] <neoark> https://pastee.org/pd6tz
[12:00] <neoark> linux-tools-common was missing odd
[12:00] <neoark> hmm
[12:01] <apw> linux-tools-common is missing ?
[12:01] <apw> that is a default package, hmmm
[12:01] <apw> what version of linux-tools-common
[12:02] <apw> does apt-cache show show
[12:03] <neoark> Version: 3.13.0-24.46
[12:03] <neoark> linux-tools-common
[12:06] <neoark> thanks sorted gotta figure out what else is missing
[12:10] <neoark> apw i guess linux-lts-vivid-tools-common
[12:10] <neoark> is missing
[12:10] <neoark> there is linux-lts-utopic-tools-common
[12:12] <neoark> linux-lts-vivid-tools-common (3.19.0-18.18) its missing for 3.19.0-18.20
[12:18] <apw> neoark, so are you trying to upgrade just the lts packages or letting the system upgrade in general
[12:18] <neoark> so upgrade stock to lts utopic to lts vivid
[12:18] <apw> neoark, there is no linux-lts-vivid-tools-common
[12:19] <neoark> yes linux-lts-utopic-tools-common i think uninstalls linux-tools-common
[12:19] <apw> there should be no linux-lts-*-tools-common any more, they are meant to use linux-tools-common ... it is menat to be common to all kernels
[12:19] <apw> so the latest linux-lts-utopic should fix that so it does not
[12:19] <apw> so is the issue here you have an _old_ linux-lts-utopic installed and it is colliding with linux-lts-vivid
[12:20] <apw> which is fixed ?
[12:20] <neoark> https://pastee.org/3kar < still shows as available
[12:21] <apw> yes, that is basically pending NBS handling, it existing isn't an issue, it should not be a dependancy of the current packages
[12:22] <neoark> yes but it removes linux-tools-common on autoremove that created this issue
[12:22] <neoark> so you can upgrade from 3.19.0-18.18 to 3.19.0-18.20 is you did apt-get autoremove
[12:23] <neoark> can not*
[12:23] <neoark> err can't type this morning.
[12:23] <neoark> s/it/if
[12:23] <apw> do you mean -20.20 ?
[12:24] <neoark> 3.19.0-20.20
[12:24] <neoark> Yes
[12:24] <apw> so if you do an autoremove, then the dist-upgrade it works ?
[12:25] <neoark> No it doesn't
[12:25] <neoark> because it removed linux-tools-common since i had installed linux-lts-vivid-tools-common (3.19.0-18.18)
[12:26] <neoark> So I had to reinstall linux-tools-common to install 3.19.0-20
[12:29] <neoark> https://pastee.org/2r3p
[12:29] <neoark> - List of linux- install and their version
[13:03] <apw> neoark, so i was not expecting you to install linux-lts-vivid-tools-common manually ever, that doesn't seem like something one should do
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.473696
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"apw",
"neoark"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-kernel"
}
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2015-06-11-#lubuntu-devel
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[15:16] <rafaellaguna> woof
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.475018
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"authors": [
"rafaellaguna"
],
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"channel": "#lubuntu-devel"
}
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu+1
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[08:10] <lordievader> Good morning.
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Hello all
[23:40] <HFSPLUS> HFSPLUS HAS RETURNED!
[23:40] <HFSPLUS> !ops
[23:41] <HFSPLUS> !ops | HFSPLUS IS BACK!
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.476911
| 2015-06-11T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"BluesKaj",
"HFSPLUS",
"lordievader"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/11/%23ubuntu%2B1.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu+1"
}
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2015-06-11-#ubuntukylin-devel
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[14:15] <wsdjeg> 怎么没几个人撒
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.479530
| 2015-06-11T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"wsdjeg"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/11/%23ubuntukylin-devel.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntukylin-devel"
}
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2015-06-11-#maas
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[14:48] <mup> Bug #1464281 opened: 1.8rc3: Incorrect IP Address label in UI (dynamic) under Network->IP for previous static IP address. Deployment gets static IP <oil> <MAAS:Incomplete> <MAAS 1.8:New> <MAAS 1.9:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464281>
[17:00] <mup> Bug #1464320 opened: Timezone support is unclear <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464320>
[18:08] <Daniel_> Hi
[18:10] <kiko> hey
[18:10] <Daniel_> I'm trying to add a node to my cluster (virtualized on my laptop). I'm trying to boot a Proliant dl360. If I choose the default installer, MaaS install the system properly but after that I can't deploy anything from juju (agent: pending)
[18:11] <Daniel_> If I chose the fast installer, the node gets into a bootloop... I can see the node in MaaS and in Juju. One time I was able to bootstrap juju to the proliant, with default installer enabled
[18:11] <Daniel_> anyone can help me?
[18:16] <Daniel_> and when I manage to get the proliant working and it's showed in Juju, I run juju add-machine but nothing happens, even in the logs. But I'm still thinking the problem comes with MaaS and this bootloop
[19:14] <Guest19502> how can I see old messages? I lost my internet connection and they are all gone :(
[19:21] <roaksoax> /win/win 13
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.482363
| 2015-06-11T00:00:00 |
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"Daniel_",
"Guest19502",
"kiko",
"mup",
"roaksoax"
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"channel": "#maas"
}
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-fi
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[06:01] <tale> Onko Ubuntu 14.04:n Thunderbird jotenkin kranttu, kun se vaati sertifikaatin lataamista ja turvallisuuspoikkeusta kun sähköpostipalvelimen sertifikaatti vaihdettiin uuteen?
[06:01] <tale> Ne sertit pitää kerran vuodessa uusia, joten tuo on aika harmi jos käyttäjät pelästyy nyt joku huijaus menossa.
[06:02] <tale> Eikä ne sähköpostiohjelmat joita itse kokeilin mitään toimenpiteitä vaatinut kun sertifikaatti vaihtui.
[06:03] <ansa> onko se "oikea" jonkun myöntämä sertifikaatti (joka löytyy ubuntun ca-sertifikaateista) eikä itseallekirjoitettu?
[06:06] <tale> ansa: Ostettu sertifikaatti se on.
[06:07] <tale> Ja mukana intermediate sertifikaatti ja Comodo cross signed sertifikaatti, eli sertiketjukin on.
[06:07] <ansa> ok
[06:12] <ansa> onhan postipalvelimen nimi thunnderbirdin asetuksissa sama kuin sertifikaatissa?
[06:21] <tale> posti.antenniserveri.fi on molemmissa.
[06:23] <ansa> Verify return code: 21 (unable to verify the first certificate) tulee kun koitan
[06:23] <ansa> openssl s_client -CApath /etc/ssl/certs -starttls imap -connect posti.antenniserveri.fi:143
[06:23] <tale> Tolla testasin eilen, mielestäni se sertiketju oli OK.
[16:02] <Mikaela> mietin mit tehdään hashsum mismatchien kanssa, joita tuntuu tulevan usein VPS:llä ja vastaus Googlella olikin sitten bugiraportti https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1373598
[17:32] <tale> Osaako täällä joku neuvoa miten pgloader saisi sqlite -tiedoston luettua postgresql -tietokannaksi?
[17:32] <tale> Ihan man-sivun esimerkit tilttaavat lujaa.
[17:33] <tale> Joko man-sivu ei pidä lainkaan paikkaansa tai ohjelma on aivan rikki.
[19:22] <elias_a> http://openssl.org/news/secadv_20150611.txt
[19:22] <elias_a> Saas nähdä joko on huomenna paikko tullut.
[19:32] <elias_a> Huu... tuossa sanotaan, että pitäisi päivittää 1.0.1n:ään ja mun Ubuntussa on versio OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014...
[19:35] <ninnnu> mä en osannu nähdä tossa mitään mikä erityisesti kiinnostais tavista
[19:35] <ninnnu> ts. ei oo code executioneja
[19:38] <elias_a> Ilmeisesti jos MITM ei tunnu harmittomalta ei sitten ole tavis, vai? :P
[19:39] <ninnnu> no mä kattelen maailmaa enemmän ylläpitäjän vinkkelistä, ts. "onks tää jotain jolla voi korkata palvaimia"
[19:41] <elias_a> Minusta olisi kyllä olla syytä kiinnostua siitäkin, pystyykö ne palvelimet viestimään käyttäjien kanssa luotettavasti.
[19:41] <elias_a> Toi Ubuntun tapa jättää päivittämättä tuo versionumero on jännä.
[19:41] <ansa> normaalia kaikille distroille
[19:42] <elias_a> Mikäs järki siinä on?
[19:42] <elias_a> Tai miksi noin tehdään?
[19:42] <ninnnu> elias_a: Tossahan on workaround että "älä hyväksy alle 768 bitin kryptoja"
[19:43] <elias_a> ninnnu: Eiks se pidä vääntää käsin kuitenkin tuohon muotoon?
[19:44] <ninnnu> juu?
[19:44] <ninnnu> Helposti konffaa
[19:44] <ansa> kun niissä versiopäivityksissä tulee muutakin kuin tietoturvapäivityksiä, niin ei haluta muita muutoksia mukaan
[19:45] <elias_a> ansa: Ok. Tuo on hyvä selitys.
[19:45] <ansa> tosin on poikkeuksia, esim. postgresql:n releaseihin luotetaan niin paljon että tietoturvapäivityksiä ei erikseen backportata, muutkin bugifixit saavat tulla mukana
[19:46] <ninnnu> tai niitä turvavammoja ei jakseta backportata..
[19:47] <ansa> ...ja toisaalta esim. Debian alkoi php:n kanssa ottamaan muutkin bugifixit kun ei ole resursseja enää backporttaukseen
[19:47] <ansa> jep
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.495485
| 2015-06-11T00:00:00 |
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"Mikaela",
"ansa",
"elias_a",
"ninnnu",
"tale"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-fi"
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-unity
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[12:14] <bregma> is there a way to execute something with elevated privileges under Unity 8?
[12:16] <bregma> ie. the equivalent of gksudo
[15:16] <mzanetti> kgunn, https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/indicator-network/backport-dep-loop-fix/+merge/261742
[15:17] <mzanetti> kgunn, problem is we can't dual-land this
[15:17] <mzanetti> so prepping a silo just for this now :/
[15:17] * kgunn is laughing, so he doesn't cry
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.497368
| 2015-06-11T00:00:00 |
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"bregma",
"kgunn",
"mzanetti"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-unity"
}
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2015-06-11-#ubuntustudio
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[10:57] <Samul`> is there any LV2 plugins to achieve the "talking instrument" effect? like a vocoder
[10:57] <Samul`> I know there are some, but what is the best and possibly the easiest to use?
[10:57] <Samul`> it would be perfect if I could use as a plugin in ardour
[15:05] <sara_> hey
[15:06] <sara_> anyone here?
[15:06] <cfhowlett> sara_, ask your questions
[15:07] <sara_> hey my name is andrew and i am currently on my wifes computer
[15:07] <sara_> becouse i have problems with my comp
[15:08] <sara_> after yesterdays update
[15:08] <sara_> ...
[15:08] <sara_> when i boot and choose ubuntu in bios
[15:08] <sara_> it boots but no picture!
[15:09] <sara_> i can tell it booted becouse when i write my password it loggs in becouse i hear sound but no picture
[15:10] <cfhowlett> sara_, workaround: reboot, choose an old ubuntu version
[15:11] <sara_> i dont see grub it just boots to ubuntu
[15:12] <cfhowlett> sara_, reboot and hit your esc key immediately after the POST completes
[15:13] <sara_> ok i did and now says grub>
[15:14] <cfhowlett> sara_, hmm. wrong key, it seems. reboot>POST>tab key. sorry for the confusion.
[15:15] <sara_> error: invalid environment block press key to reboot
[15:15] <sara_> now all blank again
[15:17] <sara_> error:invalid environment block press any key...
[15:17] <sara_> i tried again
[15:18] <cfhowlett> sara_, ask in main #ubuntu channel
[15:18] <sara_> ok thanks
[17:42] <jo_> 1aGitarrist251055
[17:58] <JinjaNinja> I'm having a hard time getting my sound working while using Virtual JACK Keyboard with QSynth (or any of the other synths)
[17:59] <JinjaNinja> I have a screenshot of my JACK virtual connections if anyone could possibly take a look and help
[18:26] <dean> Deano
[18:52] <muhkuh> hey there, my ubuntu studio installation is still booting with the low-latency kernel? i tried to do like here under 'starting with the right kernel' -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation to boot with the generic kernel
[23:04] <kris27mc> I'm in desperate need of help, as I've lost personally valuable data multiple times! I recently did a clean install of Ubuntu Studio 15.04 and now, every time I use TuxGuitar, eventually I'll open one of the internal menus such as Track Properties, etc. and when I close that menu, TuxGuitar just closes, not asking if I would like to save the file I have open (closing these menus shouldn't close TuxGuitar as a whole anyways
[23:04] <kris27mc> ), and I then lose all of my unsaved work. This is hassling me on a large scale as I've been depending on TuxGuitar for a while. I'm aware that this isn't the perfect place for my issue but I'm hoping someone may have an idea.
[23:06] <ObrienDave> save your work before you close the program?
[23:07] <kris27mc> But I'm not intentionally closing the program
[23:07] <kris27mc> That would require saving before 90% of actions
[23:07] <kris27mc> I'm never sure when it could potentially close
[23:08] <kris27mc> The program isn't meant to close unless it's intentionally exited
[23:09] <kris27mc> I've been using the program for about 8 months, including on past installations of Studio 15.04
[23:13] <kris27mc> This is a new problem that has risen since reinstalling 15.04
[23:18] <kris27mc> If not here, I'd also appreciate being redirected to a more appropriate place
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.512699
| 2015-06-11T00:00:00 |
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"JinjaNinja",
"ObrienDave",
"Samul`",
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"dean",
"jo_",
"kris27mc",
"muhkuh",
"sara_"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/11/%23ubuntustudio.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntustudio"
}
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-tw
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[13:33] <vetwangcn> 中文？
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.515104
| 2015-06-11T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"vetwangcn"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/11/%23ubuntu-tw.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-tw"
}
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-us-pa
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[09:23] <rmg51> Morning
[12:03] <lazyPower> o/ morning
[12:04] <lazyPower> InHisName: `ip route` should show you the full route table.
[12:04] <lazyPower> i'm not fully sure what else you're looking for though
[12:18] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.516033
| 2015-06-11T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"lazyPower",
"rmg51",
"teddy-dbear"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/11/%23ubuntu-us-pa.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-pa"
}
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-news
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[15:24] <PaulW2U> jose: Do you realise that your sub-forum mod status is due to expire soon?
[15:24] <PaulW2U> If you want to keep it you need to email the forum council
[15:25] <jose> PaulW2U: actually, I don't know if it's a sub-forum mod team or what, because I believe I still can't post there
[15:25] <jose> I'll work on it
[15:27] <PaulW2U> Oh right. I've posted there so it worked for me. Anyway my status was renewed after I emailed the FC
[15:28] <jose> will do. thanks!
[16:39] <pleia2> yeah, I have to email the FC all the time for that, very tedious but they always renew
[18:03] <jose> pleia2: want me to work on that article?
[18:03] <pleia2> jose: go for it :) tag it Interview in the Interview category
[18:03] <jose> will do!
[18:03] <pleia2> maybe Membership Boards tag too
[18:13] <pleia2> woo, our fridge images ticket has been closed, they fixed the image links
[18:18] <jose> great!
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.517950
| 2015-06-11T00:00:00 |
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"PaulW2U",
"jose",
"pleia2"
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"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/11/%23ubuntu-news.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-news"
}
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-gr
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[12:51] <Keravnos2> kalhspera pedia etsi sa xamena mpika na do an exei kosmo :)
[13:00] <alexpag> kalispera
[13:01] <alexpag> se ubuntu mate 14.04 egatestisa sto guvcview kai mou deixnei mauro h camera tou laptop
[13:01] <alexpag> me to skype kai to cheese h camera douleuei kanonika
[13:01] <geothom230> des ama exei fortosei ta libs tou guvcview
[13:01] <alexpag> mipos xerete ti mporei na ftaiei?kapoia ruthmisi isos?
[13:02] <alexpag> pos tha to do auto?
[13:02] <geothom230> me to synaptic manager ola ta vlepeis
[13:02] <alexpag> nomizo sto ubuntu mate den uparxei synaptic
[13:02] <alexpag> prepei na to egatastiso
[13:03] <alexpag> tin egatastasi tin ekana meso ubuntu software center
[13:04] <geothom230> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[13:05] <geothom230> konsolitsa oraia gia na kanei papades
[13:05] <alexpag> ok
[13:06] <alexpag> An kai stin 15.04 to guvcview douleue xoris problima
[13:08] <alexpag> libs eipame?
[13:09] <geothom230> na deis ama einai fortomena
[13:11] <alexpag> den mporo na bro to libs
[13:15] <alexpag> sketo libs legetai to paketo?
[13:18] <geothom230> sto search vale guvcview kai des ama me ayto exei libraries
[13:19] <alexpag> den exei
[13:20] <geothom230> ok gia des ayto
[13:20] <geothom230> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/guvcview/+bug/1448694
[13:20] <geothom230> ayto sou vgazei
[13:21] <geothom230> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/06/install-guvcview-1-7-3-ubuntu1404/
[13:22] <geothom230> vrika kai ayto alla mallon kati paizei me permission kai dependencies
[13:22] <alexpag> tha to dokimaso
[13:22] <geothom230> alla les pio prin oti sto skype douleuei vlepei diladi tin webcam sou me to lsusb
[13:22] <geothom230> ara douleuei
[13:23] <geothom230> mallon xrisimopoiei kai kapoia libs apo vlc
[13:24] <alexpag> h camera douleuei kanonika me skype cheese eno episis douleue to guvcview stin 15.04
[13:24] <geothom230> exei mallon kapoio conflict
[13:24] <geothom230> den exigeite allios
[13:24] <alexpag> opote pao gia 15.04 na teleionoume
[13:24] <alexpag> xaxa
[13:24] <geothom230> ti exeis tora
[13:25] <geothom230> ubuntu mate 14.04?
[13:25] <alexpag> nai
[13:25] <geothom230> asto etsi opos einai
[13:25] <alexpag> basika prin eixa 15.04
[13:25] <alexpag> kai douleue apsoga
[13:26] <alexpag> kai etsi mou irthe kai allaxa se 14.04 gia na paideuomai
[13:26] <geothom230> tha protimas monon lts eisai kala me aytin tin ekdosi 14.04
[13:26] <geothom230> ti thes na kaneis me to gnucview afou me tis efarmoges sou douleuei apsoga
[13:27] <alexpag> ithela na grapso video
[13:27] <alexpag> kala den me kaiei kiolas
[13:28] <geothom230> na kaneis grab to dekstop theleis?
[13:28] <alexpag> oxi
[13:29] <geothom230> recordmydesktop apo to ubuntu software center na valeis einai poli kalo
[13:29] <alexpag> ok
[13:29] <geothom230> kai ayto grafei alla to desktop
[13:30] <geothom230> kai me to cheese grafei episis exisou
[13:30] <alexpag> nai to exo dokimasei
[13:31] <geothom230> asto etsi opos einai douleuei mia xara
kai to vlc
grafei
ama valeis capture device thn camera sou
kai to mplayer kai kai
[13:31] <geothom230> kalo einai to mate to evals se mia kopela
[13:31] <geothom230> nai se ayto exei dikio to kerato
[13:32] <geothom230> kerato---->kalosirthes
[13:32] <kerato> edw hmoun alla tespa kalws sas vrhka
[13:32] <alexpag> euxaristo polu gia tin bohtheia
[13:33] <geothom230> telos kala ola kala xerome
[13:34] <kerato> pe8ane o christopher lee
[13:35] <kerato> kai gemise to facebook drakoules
[13:36] <eliasps> Χαχαχα, τις προάλλες που πέθανε ο Nash, το A beautiful mind παραλίγο να πάρει όσκαρ!
[13:37] <geothom230> :-D
[15:10] <michaliskasapas> geia paidia einai kanis edo?
[15:11] <michaliskasapas> guys??
[15:12] <michaliskasapas> exo ena 8ema me to na egatastiso ta lubuntu se ena low pc kai mou bgazi ena sfalma: /tmp den litourgi
[15:12] <michaliskasapas> o diskos /tmp
[15:12] <michaliskasapas> boi8ia?
[15:21] <simosx> michaliskasapas, γράψε ακριβώς το μήνυμα όπως το λέει.
[15:22] <simosx> Ώστε να δούμε τι αναφέρει το Google.
[15:22] <michaliskasapas> tora den ginete ta diegrapsa alla perimene na 8imi8o
[15:22] <michaliskasapas> elege nomizo o diskos /tmp den litourgi i den antapokrinete. mou fenete
[15:23] <michaliskasapas> ida pola forum me afto to problima alla i apantisis itan asximes!
[15:23] <simosx> 1. από το περιβάλλον Live, μπορείς να ανοίξεις το gnome-disks για να δεις αν ο δίσκος είναι χτυπημένος (δεδομένα S.M.A.R.T.)
[15:24] <michaliskasapas> pos anigo gnome disks?
[15:24] <michaliskasapas> eimai kenourgios sta ubuntu
[15:25] <michaliskasapas> stis ri8misis einai ?
[15:25] <michaliskasapas> ase to brika
[15:25] <simosx> αναφέρεις lubuntu, και ενδέχεται να μην το περιλαμβάνει στο LiveUSB/LiveCD. Από το τερματικό τρέχεις «gnome-disks».
[15:27] <michaliskasapas> tora milao ap apla ubuntu
[15:28] <michaliskasapas> mou ebgale afto to error kai sta dio pou prospa8isa
[15:28] <michaliskasapas> kai lubuntu kai ubuntu
[15:29] <michaliskasapas> se allo skliro paizi na min exei 8ema
[15:29] <michaliskasapas> na balo enan allo?
[15:29] <simosx> στο gnome-disks υπάρχει μια επιλογή να δείξει δεδομένα S.M.A.R.T για το δίσκο. Εκεί θα καταλάβεις αν ο δίσκος έχει κατεστραμμένα μέρη.
[15:29] <michaliskasapas> den katalabes
[15:29] <michaliskasapas> den mpeni kan sto logismiko
[15:29] <michaliskasapas> stin fortosi otan pai na to aniksi
[15:30] <simosx> ααα, οκ.
[15:30] <michaliskasapas> aman balo enan allo kalo skliro
[15:30] <michaliskasapas> diladi
[15:30] <michaliskasapas> einai 8ema sklirou mono?
[15:30] <simosx> πόση RAM;
[15:30] <michaliskasapas> 1.5 ddr1
[15:30] <michaliskasapas> palio pc poli
[15:30] <simosx> GB
[15:30] <michaliskasapas> nai
[15:31] <michaliskasapas> den exei 8ema me ligi ram dioti milao apo neetbook me 1gb
[15:31] <michaliskasapas> XD
[15:31] <simosx> Δοκιμάζεις με 14.04;
[15:31] <michaliskasapas> nai
[15:32] <simosx> οπότε μια εύκολη λύση είναι να δοκιμάσεις με άλλο δίσκο.
[15:32] <michaliskasapas> ok efxaristo
[15:33] <michaliskasapas> 8a sou po abrio dioti exo na diabaso tora
[15:33] <michaliskasapas> ta leme paidia
[15:33] <simosx> οκ, μια χαρά.
[16:06] <narkman> kalispera
[16:12] <narkman> paidia to preload se 1gb ram
[16:12] <narkman> einai kalo?
[16:12] <narkman> i kani zimia?
[17:28] <talos-mintgr> Kalo einai
[18:31] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntusecurity: USN-2639-1: OpenSSL vulnerabilities <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2639-1/>
[18:51] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntugr: Έρχεται το νέο BQ Aquaris E5 HD Ubuntu Edition <http://www.ubuntu-gr.org/story/11-06-15/%CE%AD%CF%81%CF%87%CE%B5%CF%84%CE%B1%CE%B9-%CF%84%CE%BF-%CE%BD%CE%AD%CE%BF-bq-aquaris-e5-hd-ubuntu-edition>
[20:00] <narkman> geia paidia
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-community-team
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[07:54] <davidcalle> Good morning o/
[08:30] <popey> czajkowski: you going to http://london-2015.devrel.net/ ?
[08:41] <czajkowski> popey: I am
[08:41] <czajkowski> popey: submitted a talk yet?
[08:41] <popey> you cant
[08:42] <popey> its single track
[08:42] <popey> oh, you can...
[08:43] <czajkowski> :)
[08:43] <czajkowski> popey: it's mrevells conference
[08:43] <czajkowski> few of us on the pannel for reviewing papers
[09:08] <davidcalle> Hi dpm, do you mind approving pawel for https://launchpad.net/~ubuntudeveloperportal-editors?
[09:09] <dpm> morning davidcalle
[09:10] <dpm> davidcalle, done. I've also made you an admin, so you should be able to approve new editors
[09:13] <davidcalle> dpm, awesome, thanks :) /me $ touch people_to_ban.txt
[09:31] <davidcalle> dpm, popey, balloons : if you need to publish a blog on duc, make sure you host your images somewhere, the blog image upload is broken atm
[09:33] <popey> That's okay, all my images are hosted at http://reddit.com/r/cats
[09:36] <davidcalle> http://thecatapi.com/api/images/get?type=gif
[09:37] <popey> win!
[09:38] <davidcalle> popey, the doc even makes you feel at home http://thecatapi.com/docs.html
[09:43] <davidcalle> dpm, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/blog/2015/06/11/cleaning-scopes-settings/
[09:44] <popey> davidcalle: woah!
[09:50] <dpm> nice work davidcalle!
[10:34] <dpm> davidcalle, https://opensource.com/business/15/6/why-ubuntu-developer-portal-moved-djangocms :)
[10:35] <davidcalle> dpm, yes, seen it! He did a stellar job :)
[12:39] <dpm> davidcalle, I've created the translations dashboard card, here's just a suggestion, let me know what you think: https://trello.com/c/Uw2UAUrE/285-as-a-simplified-chinese-translator-i-want-to-see-the-status-of-the-original-english-pages-so-that-i-can-keep-up-with-translation
[12:44] <davidcalle> dpm, I like how your suggestion keeps it simple, I think that's a fair goal for the page. +1
[12:44] <dpm> cool
[12:45] <dpm> yeah, we just need something that works and that avoid us having to maintain manual status spreadsheets
[12:46] <dpm> davidcalle, but that's just a suggestion, if you've got better ideas, please feel free to propose too!
[13:16] <jcastro> dang, christopher lee died
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-hr
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[06:52] <ivoks> Mmike: kae?
[06:59] <Mmike> Good Morning!
[07:07] <Mmike> ovaj openerp
[07:07] <Mmike> pa jebemti
[07:08] <Mmike> sve, ali sve sve sve lik trpa u jednu tablicu
[07:08] <Mmike> a ima 500+ tablica?!
[07:08] <Mmike> pa kak, pa kak
[07:08] <Mmike> pkaaaaaaaaaak
[07:57] <drj_cro> Jutro
[08:04] <drj_cro> Ima ko na RedHat days u Radnickoj?
[08:11] <Mmike> pa jooooooooj
[08:12] <Mmike> pa nosaci za bicikl na kuku kostaju za popizdit!
[08:12] <Mmike> 3k kuna?
[08:12] <Mmike> kaj to moze nosit i rakete za bicikl? :)
[08:34] <drj_cro> Mmike priprema za scud :)
[09:30] <Mmike> 5% [2 linux-image-3.16.0-39-generic 3,336 kB/16.1 MB 21%] 27.2 kB/s 39min 3s
[09:38] <jelly> baš se žali kolega da mu ubuntu svaki drugi dan krpa kernel i da mu je toga dosta
[09:38] <vileni> Mmike: s cim to skidas, fax masinom?
[09:41] <Mmike> jelly: yup, 14.04 je naporan za poludit s time :( a kad ima bugova, sto ces :)
[09:42] <Mmike> 12.04 s druge strane neznam kad sam zadnji put ributo
[09:55] <Mmike> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2324
[10:22] <jelly> Mmike: debian 8 koristi isti kernel, pa opet ne izdaju toliko cesto
[10:23] <jelly> Linux kanta 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1 (2015-05-24) x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:40] <Mmike> jelly: ne znam kaj bi ti tu reko, osim da i mene iritira\
[10:40] <Mmike> inace, ja imam 3.13
[10:40] <Mmike> 3.16 je HWE kernel
[10:40] <Mmike> hardware-enablement
[10:40] <Mmike> ili tak nekaj
[10:51] <hbogner> he he he: 2.6.24-32-server jos je ziv
[11:21] <rut> .weather osijek
[11:21] <datase> rut: Weather for Osijek, Croatia | Temperature: 82°F / 28°C (Heat Index: 83°F / 28°C); Humidity: 48%; Pressure: 30.04in / 101.7kPa; Conditions: Partly cloudy; Wind: Nnw, 9mph / 14kph; Updated: 21 mins, 54 secs ago | Forecast for Thursday: Partly cloudy; High of 80°F / 27°C; Low of 56°F / 13°C | Forecast for Friday: Clear; High of 86°F / 30°C; Low of 63°F / 17°C | Forecast for Saturday: Partly cloudy; (1 more message)
[11:22] <rut> .weather zagreb
[11:22] <datase> rut: Weather for Zagreb, Croatia | Temperature: 82°F / 28°C (Heat Index: 83°F / 28°C); Humidity: 48%; Pressure: 30.06in / 101.8kPa; Conditions: Partly cloudy; Wind: Variable, 5mph / 8kph; Updated: 22 mins, 35 secs ago | Forecast for Thursday: Clear; High of 86°F / 30°C; Low of 63°F / 17°C | Forecast for Friday: Clear; High of 91°F / 33°C; Low of 65°F / 18°C | Forecast for Saturday: Clear; High of 93°F / (1 more message)
[11:23] <rut> vruce je i vama znaci :)
[11:24] <rut> .weather zadar
[11:24] <datase> rut: Weather for Zadar, Croatia | Temperature: 86°F / 30°C (Heat Index: 86°F / 30°C); Humidity: 43%; Pressure: 30.01in / 101.6kPa; Conditions: Partly cloudy; Wind: Wsw, 8mph / 13kph; Updated: 24 mins, 1 sec ago | Forecast for Thursday: Clear; High of 85°F / 29°C; Low of 62°F / 17°C | Forecast for Friday: Clear; High of 87°F / 31°C; Low of 65°F / 18°C | Forecast for Saturday: Partly cloudy; High of 87°F (1 more message)
[11:25] <sillyslux> .weather split
[11:25] <datase> sillyslux: Weather for Split, Croatia | Temperature: 86°F / 30°C (Heat Index: 84°F / 29°C); Humidity: 35%; Pressure: 30.01in / 101.6kPa; Conditions: Partly cloudy; Wind: Sw, 10mph / 16kph; Updated: 25 mins, 33 secs ago | Forecast for Thursday: Clear; High of 85°F / 29°C; Low of 67°F / 19°C | Forecast for Friday: Clear; High of 88°F / 31°C; Low of 67°F / 19°C | Forecast for Saturday: Clear; High of 89°F (1 more message)
[11:26] <sillyslux> .more split
[11:26] <pkiller> samo .more
[11:26] <pkiller> :)
[11:26] <sillyslux> nist.. morat cu otic sam vidit kako je more
[11:26] <rut> jelly eto dodaj feature .more
[11:27] <pkiller> http://prognoza.hr/karte.php?id=prizemne¶m=vjtl&it=03
[11:28] <pkiller> ovo ja gledam :)
[11:28] <pkiller> za more
[11:29] <sillyslux> e da vidim..
[11:29] <sillyslux> ma daj..
[11:29] <rut> ja se tu ne snalazim . kakve su ovo crte ?
[11:30] <rut> :)
[11:30] <pkiller> http://prognoza.hr/karte.php?id=aladin
[11:30] <sillyslux> to su dica u vrticu izradile
[11:31] <rut> pkiller nesto jednostavnije
[11:31] <pkiller> dolje ti je obijasnjeno :)
[11:32] <pkiller> to je najjednostavnije... ovisno o jačini vjetra ti je more... jedino ako nije ostatak od nekog nevremena ili potresa :)
[11:34] <sillyslux> uhh
[12:46] <BotaniCar> Kak sam jedini pusac u firmi, kad praznim pepeljaru se trudim smece hermetizirati. Danas sam imao samo skarnicl pri ruci. Hodam prema kanti i malo stisnem, probije se i ispuse sav peepl po mojoj snjezno bijeloj majici :)
[12:47] <hbogner> sad je snjezno siva majica :D
[12:56] <BotaniCar> s/snjezno/njezno7 :D
[12:58] <jelly> .more sillyslux
[12:58] <datase> jelly: / 32°C; Low of 71°F / 22°C | Forecast for Sunday: Partly cloudy; High of 88°F / 31°C; Low of 72°F / 22°C | Forecast for Monday: Partly cloudy; High of 86°F / 30°C; Low of 69°F / 21°C | Forecast for Tuesday: Chance of a thunderstorm; High of 87°F / 31°C; Low of 65°F / 18°C
[12:58] <sillyslux> hola tenk ju
[13:01] <sillyslux> hmm aj jedno pitanje.. kako more moze bit cloudy? nije li trebalo bit mirno/valovito hladno/vrloHladno sporko/gadno
[13:02] <BotaniCar> Kak moze biti cloudy ? A ono, nije bas jednostavno, moras imati jako sunce i visoku vlagu, pa kad se ta vlaga digne gore pocne formirati oblake.
[13:03] <BotaniCar> Ima i kompleksnije objasnjenje, ali to ti je to
[13:05] <sillyslux> pa to je nebo iznad mora a ne more itself
[13:07] <BotaniCar> kaj nie more== vishe u ovom slucaju ?
[13:09] <sillyslux> pa vidi, vidim ja kakvo je nebo al se bojim uci u vodu jer se bojim da je ispod 20°
[13:09] <sillyslux> u vodi
[13:09] <Neuromanc> jutro
[13:09] <sillyslux> aj nista, otic cu dolje i ponit cu termometar
[13:12] <jelly> More, more
[13:17] <sillyslux> evo sad se izlije iz neba
[13:19] <Mmike> sillyslux: di?
[13:20] <sillyslux> kastel l.
[13:21] <sillyslux> nista od mora kad je vako
[13:26] <Mmike> da bar oce tu roknit
[13:27] <BotaniCar> Da, da mi auto opere
[13:43] <jelly> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gHiNlh9iDw
[13:43] <datase> YouTube: Me First And The Gimme Gimmes - Stairway To Heaven - 0:02:31 - 121370 views - 358 likes / 16 dislikes
[17:04] <SilverSpace> ljetna pauza
[17:16] <jelly> net.hr se obnovio, izgleda nekak modernije
[17:17] <SilverSpace> o da
[17:19] <SilverSpace> https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=15&v=3tEYcUSQDyw
[17:19] <datase> YouTube: Double Barreled 1911 pistol quad wield rapid fire! 20 rounds in 1.5 seconds in SlowMo| AF2011 (4K) - 0:05:03 - 2233376 views - 10190 likes / 213 dislikes
[17:28] <hbogner> jelly, i mene iznenadili, to su izgleda danas popodne pustili
[17:30] <jelly> pred sat-dva
[17:31] <jelly> koga zanima primijetiti ce i promjenu IP adrese te providera...
[17:32] <obrut> SilverSpace: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaZ_jl-WP8M :)
[17:32] <datase> YouTube: John Wayne vs Cyclists - 0:01:14 - 10588 views - 43 likes / 3 dislikes
[17:38] <jelly> i nekak je responsive, prvo ucita i renderira sav tekst, pa onda slike kako stizu
[17:38] <hbogner> znaci skroz su se preselili
[17:38] <jelly> no comment :-)
[17:39] <hbogner> moblna verzija je sad normalnija
[17:40] <SilverSpace> obrut: lol
[17:41] <sillyslux> net.hr: "genijalac koji šeće Šibenikom s ulošcima pod pazuhom." ... :(
[17:43] <jelly> dobra ideja
[17:44] <jelly> imali smo jednog vendora koji je imao neke probleme s metabolizmom ili hormonima, i zasmrdio bi cijeli ofis, mozda bi mu to koristilo
[17:46] <sillyslux> vueee
[18:27] <markosejic> d vecer
[18:57] <Mmike> AHAHAHA wow that either killed or didn't kill me in this box I'm sitting in.
[18:57] <Mmike> elp with virtual-maas is to basically define a set of nodes and if they exist use them and add them, if not create them
[18:57] <Mmike> o STAAAA
[18:57] <Mmike> matere
[18:57] <Mmike> https://twitter.com/Langaround/status/608777403779784705?s=03
[18:57] <Mmike> to!
[19:23] <SilverSpace> odoh spat
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.553306
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"obrut",
"pkiller",
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"sillyslux",
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-my
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[16:20] <mypapit> oh shiittt
[16:37] <najmi> apehal mypapit
[16:38] <mypapit> saja main ejas script
[16:38] <najmi> oh
[16:38] <najmi> script ape tu
[16:38] <mypapit> psz-skriptz
[17:02] * najmi sleepy
[17:09] <ejat> adeh
[17:24] <mypapit> wtf ejat
[17:24] <ejat> w00f w00f
[17:24] <mypapit> :D
[17:24] <ejat> sambung migration lagi kah ?
[17:25] <mypapit> ejat, ya
[17:25] <ejat> pergh
[17:25] <mypapit> ejat, pasang2 vpn
[17:25] <ejat> brape banyak nak migrate masuk do
[17:25] <ejat> wow
[17:25] <ejat> vpn plak ?
[17:25] <mypapit> ejat, ya
[17:25] <najmi> wow
[17:26] <najmi> projek ape tu bro
[17:26] <najmi> aku usha2 dedicated server lak hihi
[17:26] <mypapit> najmi, utk mobile app
[17:26] <najmi> boleh kawtim ramai2 install KVM lepas tu sewa kat orang hahah
[17:26] <mypapit> nak high availability
[17:26] <mypapit> najmi, ya tu la
[17:30] <ejat> lxd , lxc
[17:30] <ejat> huhu
[17:30] <mypapit> ejat, suggestion for lxd, lxc plzz
[17:31] <najmi> apo tu
[17:31] <ejat> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/05/18/lxd-crushes-kvm-in-density-and-speed/
[17:31] * najmi n00b
[17:31] <najmi> oo
[17:31] <ejat> tu sifu mypapit
[17:33] <mypapit> ejat, kat mana yg boleh sewa lxd enabled box?
[17:33] <najmi> mypapit: ce tengok mesosphere
[17:33] <najmi> kot ko rasa sesuai dgn ko
[17:34] <najmi> https://mesosphere.com/
[17:34] <mypapit> tgh check
[17:37] <mypapit> wow
[17:37] <ejat> ?
[17:37] <mypapit> scalable virtual datacenter
[17:53] <ejat> kena ade base cloud then mesosphere la kan ?
[18:07] <najmi> http://2015.durian.ml/call-for-presentation
[18:08] <najmi> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-configure-a-production-ready-mesosphere-cluster-on-ubuntu-14-04
[18:08] <najmi> pening gila
[18:09] <najmi> mcm overkill utk papit
[18:09] <najmi> or most of us
[18:11] <ejat> mesosphere on top of DO
[18:11] <ejat> or ubuntu ?
[18:12] <ejat> better on OpenStack
[18:15] <ejat> :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.557462
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-discuss
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[00:09] <ObrienDave> dang, i hate losing an argument LOL
[00:10] <ObrienDave> i will not admit i did LOL
[00:13] <daftykins> did what? :)
[00:14] <ObrienDave> oh, i lost an argument by this reasoning, ferro = iron. PURE nickel and cobalt = no iron. nickel and cobalt can't be FERROmagnetic
[00:14] <daftykins> hrmm o0
[00:16] <ObrienDave> it seems ferro-magnetism is the ability to be attracted to magnets or hold magnetism. ferro does not imply iron. grrrr, i hate losing ;P
[00:16] <daftykins> hrmm that doesn't make much sense
[00:17] <ObrienDave> it's the characteristic, not the contents of the material
[00:21] <ObrienDave> dang, i hate conceding. grrr
[00:22] <daftykins> :D
[00:22] <daftykins> say it's different where you are, then stroll off
[00:22] <ObrienDave> i concede that ferromagnetism implies the characteristic, not the contents of the material
[00:22] <ObrienDave> [18:20:37] <ObrienDave> and that's all ;P
[00:23] <ObrienDave> naw, you can't change physics no matter where you are LOL
[00:23] <daftykins> :>
[00:32] <ObrienDave> OerHeks, can i choke jeeves_moss?
[00:33] <OerHeks> sure .. CAN YOU TURN IT ON, AND OFF AGAIN?
[00:33] <OerHeks> :-D
[00:34] <ObrienDave> i try to keep it simple for newbies, why make it harder than it needs to be? he can learn DD at a later time. shees
[00:35] <OerHeks> that device has 0 blocks, so it needs to format in fat32 .. or it is a U# device, the Kinston site mentions that.
[00:35] <OerHeks> U3 *
[00:35] <OerHeks> but hey, i am just a poor guy with too many pc's
[00:36] <OerHeks> i wanna get rid of them, beggin on my knees
[00:36] <ObrienDave> yes, but using unetbootin would solve the whole problem without risking everything else.
[00:36] <OerHeks> if it is U3, not
[00:37] <ObrienDave> PS. i have too many PCs also ;P
[00:37] <OerHeks> If they were 1000 mbit, i would make a cluster for fun
[00:37] <ObrienDave> U3 was a sandisk thing, abandoned 4 or 5 years ago
[00:38] <ObrienDave> i still have a U3 sandisk stick somewheres. got rid of u3 when they did
[00:40] <daftykins> XD
[00:41] <daftykins> i brought home this spare core 2 quad for running win10, but having two desktops is such a waste
[00:43] <OerHeks> Somebody put this outside with the trash https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6885560/muziekstand.JPG
[00:43] <OerHeks> :-D
[00:43] <ObrienDave> oh my, i had a chrome one many years ago
[00:44] <OerHeks> I really need this for my air guitar tour
[00:45] * daftykins spies cat food
[00:45] * ObrienDave is pushing 60 ;P
[00:45] <ObrienDave> daftykins, MUNCHIES! ;P
[00:45] <daftykins> om nom nom
[00:45] <daftykins> i turned 30 back in Feb
[00:45] <OerHeks> no, dog food, Chihuahua size
[00:45] <daftykins> :(
[00:46] <OerHeks> oh jong lad
[00:46] <ObrienDave> sick puppy, errr, kitty ;P
[00:46] <ObrienDave> daftykins, 58 in feb. LOL
[00:47] <daftykins> no offence to you guys but i did reevaluate my life when i started to realise most of the other volunteers in #ubuntu have a reason for having the time to spare ;)
[00:47] <daftykins> i should be out doing things!
[00:47] * ObrienDave has no life ;P
[00:47] * ObrienDave can't afford a life ;P
[00:48] <daftykins> bah things can't be that rough!
[00:48] <ObrienDave> sheesh, been married and broke for 15 years. tell me about it ;P
[00:50] <ObrienDave> what really started it was driving the big-rig. that killed all my finances along with my wife's BS bookkeeping
[00:50] <ObrienDave> still cheaper to keep her ;P
[00:51] <ObrienDave> grrrrr ;P
[00:51] * ObrienDave mutters, i love my wife, i love my wife, i love my wife ;P
[00:53] * Daekdroom is annoyed by people that can't use /me properly.
[01:00] * OerHeks /me properly.
[01:00] <daftykins> Daekdroom: an excellent way to introduce yourself!
[01:01] <daftykins> ObrienDave: trucking then eh, covered most of the country?
[01:05] * ObrienDave is annoyed by people who have nothing better to do that pick on someone's usage of /me
[01:05] <ObrienDave> *than
[01:06] <ObrienDave> daftykins, yes every state but the extreme NE states
[01:07] <daftykins> so is the Simpsons episode right, there's really a box driving for you? ;)
[01:07] <ObrienDave> LOL never saw that episode
[01:08] <ObrienDave> the last cartoon i enjoyed was Pinky and the Brain LOL
[01:09] <ObrienDave> well, nap time. enjoy the rest of your day *waves*
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:24] <OerHeks> hi lotus
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: morning mate :p
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: morning mate
[04:48] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: morning
[08:10] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:10] <DJones> Morning
[08:14] <lordievader> Hey DJones, how are you doing?
[08:15] <DJones> Not bad thanks, you?
[08:18] <lordievader> Doing good here.
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Hello all
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: evening mate
[16:50] <BluesKaj> Hi lotuspsychje, what's up ?
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> all fine here and you
[16:51] <BluesKaj> good thanks
[16:55] <BluesKaj> it's pita that root 15.10 takes ownership on my second HDD , had to chwon -R /media/user ..wonder whjat's wrong there
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> not sure didnt test wily yet
[16:57] <BluesKaj> well if you have extra drives watch out for that when you install wily
[16:58] <BluesKaj> seem to have more problems with 15.10 this week than before
[20:24] <daftykins> hrmm my channel order got messed with
[20:24] <daftykins> brb
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: good evening
[20:30] <daftykins> EriC^^: o/
[20:30] <OerHeks> hi lotuspsychje
[20:30] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: hello mate
[20:30] <daftykins> you keep forgetting us!
[20:30] <OerHeks> daftykins
[20:30] <EriC^^> daftykins: \o
[20:30] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: hi mate
[20:30] <OerHeks> EriC^^
[20:30] <daftykins> hallo all
[20:30] <EriC^^> hi lotuspsychje
[20:30] <daftykins> my connection dropped o0
[20:30] <EriC^^> hi OerHeks
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: pay your provider! :p
[20:31] <daftykins> then i had some minor flooding from a serious thunderstorm D:
[20:31] <OerHeks> just found out, my 'old nvidia gt430' has got a non working fan :-(
[20:31] <daftykins> oh dear
[20:31] <daftykins> rob one from a Pentium 1!
[20:31] <OerHeks> i am affraid to detach the fan from card
[20:32] <lotuspsychje> why affraid
[20:32] <daftykins> in case it's structural dust attached? :)
[20:32] <OerHeks> I wonder how i ran that card in my old pc
[20:34] <daftykins> they tend to downclock so nicely that a failed fan only becomes a problem once you're really pushing it?
[20:38] <OerHeks> might be so, and i ran 2 monitors from that card too, with youtube
[20:47] <OerHeks> hmm the actual fanmotor is 5 mm
[20:52] <daftykins> lovely quiet 120mm hanging beside it would do the trick :D
[20:52] <lotuspsychje> put your duscleaner on it :p
[20:52] <daftykins> i put passive cards in for people where i can so that the maintenance task of fan failure never comes up
[20:52] <daftykins> mind you this was back before we had on-die graphics
[20:52] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: with large metal cooling tubes
[20:53] <daftykins> yep them thar heatpipes :>
[20:53] <lotuspsychje> and an ubuntu refrigirator :p
[20:53] <lotuspsychje> with snappy :p
[20:53] <OerHeks> looking @ nvidia 610 passive, or 720
[20:54] <OerHeks> or i just go on using this GeForce 8400
[20:54] <lotuspsychje> yeah use hardware that lays around
[20:54] <lotuspsychje> recycled ubuntu boxes are the best
[20:55] <OerHeks> it is the original that came with this i3
[20:55] <lotuspsychje> lovely
[20:55] <OerHeks> not that strong
[20:55] <lotuspsychje> i3 is plenty to go
[20:56] <OerHeks> but oke, i tried switching videocard, and i attached 2nd tb hdd with old data, time to cleanup
[20:56] <lotuspsychje> okay :p
[21:00] <lotuspsychje> nice helpfull support :p
[21:01] <OerHeks> we'll get better every mistake
[21:02] <lotuspsychje> we learn much out of it
[21:02] <lotuspsychje> its like linux helpdesk
[21:02] <lotuspsychje> ppl get payed for this
[21:09] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: hi there
[21:09] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: the idea is , we do alot of support, but never have a chance to talk to each other
[21:09] <Bashing-om> I am here, you are here, all is good . What's up ?
[21:09] <OerHeks> :-)
[21:09] <lotuspsychje> so this is chill way in between support :p
[21:10] <Bashing-om> That is a great way to communicate, and not pollute the channel ! I am all for it !
[21:10] <OerHeks> off support but ontopic
[21:10] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: and offtopic can get bit crowdy sometimes
[21:11] <daftykins> =]
[21:11] <lotuspsychje> the nice guys are here :p
[21:11] <OerHeks> and i
[21:11] <lotuspsychje> lolll
[21:11] <lotuspsychje> i thought you were a girl OerHeks
[21:12] <OerHeks> Wikipedia is right.
[21:12] <lotuspsychje> :p
[21:13] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/First-Snappy-Ubuntu-Core-15-04-Stable-Version-Is-Out-484013.shtml
[21:13] <lotuspsychje> snappy does good these days
[21:14] <daftykins> i don't like the idea of replacing deb packages though :(
[21:14] <daftykins> i may have to jump ship if that happens
[21:14] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: you mean that apt going to jump to snappy system?
[21:14] <daftykins> yeah
[21:14] <OerHeks> It's the internet of things.
[21:14] <lotuspsychje> but i hears its a safer way
[21:14] <Bashing-om> ^ yeah, too much to learn to quick .
[21:15] <OerHeks> systemd, snappy, xmir
[21:15] <lotuspsychje> its all changing fast :p
[21:15] <OerHeks> or do we need to learn less?
[21:16] <lotuspsychje> if you choose ubuntu as Os, its never ending learning
[21:16] <Bashing-om> less is better ?
[21:17] <lotuspsychje> anyway im off to sleep, tnx for join Bashing-om add to your favs
[21:18] <OerHeks> nighty night lotus
[21:18] <lotuspsychje> nite
[21:18] <Bashing-om> Yeah, You can rely on adding, I would not want to miss anything here !
[21:20] <daftykins> there may be the odd collective grown about question askers ;)
[21:20] <daftykins> oops *groan
[21:21] <Bashing-om> daftykins: But what we do not tell them, will not hurt them . This can ne a need to know basis, no ?
[21:22] <Bashing-om> ne/be*
[21:33] <daftykins> absolutely :)
[22:55] * ObrienDave waves from Colorado, USA
[22:56] <daftykins> o/
[22:56] <daftykins> all topped up with "volunteer supplies", ObrienDave? :D
[22:56] <ObrienDave> LOL working on it ;P
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[00:02] <__Myst__> What is fwlps?
[00:03] <__Myst__> Actually
[00:03] <__Myst__> What is fwlps and is it safe to disable?
[00:04] <jeeves_moss> does anyone know how to fix this? http://pastebin.com/exDWWLWw
[00:04] <linuxuz3r> __Myst__: hi i think its a wifi property
[00:04] <linuxuz3r> a wifi settings
[00:05] <__Myst__> linuxuz3r: Can I disable it?
[00:05] <linuxuz3r> i dont know
[00:05] <reisio> it probably doesn't control whether your computer explodes or not
[00:05] <linuxuz3r> you can try
[00:06] <__Myst__> I'll shut it off
[00:06] <__Myst__> I heard it helps with an issue I'm having
[00:07] <jeeves_moss> reisio, you still here?
[00:07] <OerHeks> ips and fwlps are power management modules in some realtek nics
[00:08] <reisio> jeeves_moss: what's the problem
[00:08] <__Myst__> OerHeks: Can I safely disable it?
[00:09] <OerHeks> some mention disabling them is giving network a boost, others warn about it.
[00:09] <__Myst__> Warn about it?
[00:09] <__Myst__> How OerHeks ?
[00:09] <jeeves_moss> did you see the pastebin? I keep getting that over and over again in dmesg, and it causes the system to slow to a crawl, then lock totally up
[00:11] <jeeves_moss> reisio, http://pastebin.com/exDWWLWw
[00:12] <OerHeks> __Myst__, depends on the network devices i guess, try it and see it that works
[00:13] <pavlos> jeeves_moss, are you running ubuntu? which?
[00:15] <pingpingpong> Hi all!
[00:15] <reisio> hi
[00:16] <jeeves_moss> pavlos, yes, 14.04 LTS
[00:16] <pingpingpong> Finally looks like it works. Im new in here.
[00:16] <reisio> gj
[00:17] <jeeves_moss> pingpingpong, we've all been there. you have to start at the beginning. at lest you have a GUI to learn. when I started, I only had a CLI
[00:19] <pingpingpong> Well, i've been in the design field and going to the dev world slowly and a gui is of no good if not done well. And this ios app that I installed is not helping much! :)
[00:20] <pavlos> jeeves_moss, not sure if this might help ... http://www.antojose.com/content/solved-how-fix-mmc-mmc2-controller-never-released-inhibit-bit-bits-error-on-ubuntu-or-linux-mint-poulsbo-chipset-msi-x320-laptop
[00:20] <terryleigh> Hi guys, I'm new to setting up a web server.. I've installed Ubuntu 12 LTS.. I'm busy setting up a virtualenv for a Django installation, which directory should I store the envs?
[00:20] <jeeves_moss> pavlos, sweet, thanks. I loaded 14.04 onto a Transformer pad. it's been an up hill challange. I had to SPI a new BIOS into the unit.
[00:21] <jeeves_moss> pavlos, applied that already. no change
[00:22] <nicomachus> I think I've tried just about every possible solution to format this USB drive to create a live disc, but Startup Disc Creator still says it has 0B free space
[00:23] <jeeves_moss> nicomachus, what are you using to make the live disk? a windows box?
[00:23] <nicomachus> no, 14.04
[00:23] <jeeves_moss> nicomachus, are you using DD to make it?
[00:24] <nicomachus> no. just startup disk creator.
[00:24] <jeeves_moss> nicomachus, ok, time to get your hands dirty and use DD
[00:24] <ObrienDave> or unetbootin
[00:25] <OerHeks> wipe it.
[00:25] <jeeves_moss> nicomachus, do you know what drive it is? (ie. /dev/sdb, /dev/sdc, etc)?
[00:25] <jeeves_moss> ObrienDave, let's teach good habits
[00:25] <nicomachus> sdb
[00:25] <nicomachus> Startup Disk Creator: https://imgur.com/vUXscw1
[00:25] <jeeves_moss> nicomachus, once you know the drive, then you run "dd if=<file name> of=</dev/<device>"
[00:26] <ObrienDave> good habits? whatever works is good
[00:26] <nicomachus> man, dd makes me so...apprehensive.
[00:26] <Hatycat> Hey does anybody know if ther is a way to get a Youtube or spotify lens for dash ubuntu 15.04? havent used ubuntu in quite some time and appearantly all the old custom lenses are broken on new version of unity?
[00:26] <nicomachus> one letter wrong and I overwrite my laptop
[00:26] <jeeves_moss> nicomachus, lol. don't worry. it's like giving a loaded handgun to a monkey
[00:26] <nicomachus> oh yay.
[00:27] <nicomachus> last time I said a command me nervous because of it's raw power, it was rsync, the pc crashed, and I lost 400GB of encrypted data. :/
[00:27] <nicomachus> but hey, why not?
[00:28] <jeeves_moss> nicomachus, the command you want is "dd if=/home/nicomachus/Documents/Ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb"
[00:28] <Hatycat> nah sda
[00:28] <OerHeks> eh, is that kinston data treveler 3.0 such device that comes with software, also known as U3?
[00:28] <ObrienDave> unetbootin ;P
[00:28] <Hatycat> just try all the letters till it works
[00:28] <jeeves_moss> nicomachus, no time like now to learn
[00:28] <jeeves_moss> ObrienDave, you're making things complicated
[00:28] <gshmu> hello, I'm using linux kernel 3.19, How to disable update kernel 3.13
[00:29] <ObrienDave> oh, not like you are ;P
[00:29] <jeeves_moss> ObrienDave, I'm trying to teach him the correct way of doing it. Shell is zen
[00:29] <nicomachus> haha, jeeves_moss, I hit enter 3 secs before you wrote the command for me.
[00:29] <OerHeks> !info u3-tool
[00:29] <nicomachus> and your path was off, so I'm glad.
[00:29] <jeeves_moss> ObrienDave, and it's not like loosing data isn't a good learning exp!
[00:30] <jeeves_moss> nicomachus, np. just making sure you could get it. most people on here are too lazy to type it out in full
[00:30] <ObrienDave> OMG SMH and saunters away
[00:30] <nicomachus> OerHeks: there was nothing installed. I bought it from the Fed Ex Office store I had to wait at for 30 minutes today. It was on sale for 3.99. haha
[00:30] <OerHeks> When i read usb 0 bytes, i think of U3 :-)
[00:30] <jeeves_moss> ObrienDave, lol
[00:30] <ObrienDave> all yours dude
[00:31] <jeeves_moss> ObrienDave, thanks
[00:31] <pingpingpong> Off-topic! Somebody can help? I'm trying to join the mysql channel on freenode but somehow I can't.
[00:32] <jeeves_moss> pingpingpong, you have to reg a nic first
[00:32] <OerHeks> !register
[00:32] <WyZeGuY> hello hello hello
[00:32] <pingpingpong> I just joined this ubuntu channel and it works but the mysql not.
[00:32] <OerHeks> but that is already said, isn't it?
[00:32] <WyZeGuY> how do you hog open wifi?
[00:32] <nicomachus> jeeves_moss: "dd: failed to open ‘/dev/sdb’: Permission denied" wth?
[00:33] <jeeves_moss> WyZeGuY, with bacon
[00:33] <jeeves_moss> nicomachus, DD requires route
[00:33] <jeeves_moss> *root
[00:33] * nicomachus is idiot
[00:33] <WyZeGuY> jeeves_moss: hog. clever. lol
[00:33] <jeeves_moss> WyZeGuY, the muzzies in here are getting ready to bomb me for that comment
[00:34] <WyZeGuY> jeeves_moss: "muzzie". isn't that kind of as degrading as "beaner"?
[00:34] <nicomachus> ugh dd doesn't have a --progress flag?
[00:34] <jeeves_moss> WyZeGuY, I could have said MUCH worse.
[00:34] <WyZeGuY> jeeves_moss: of course. we could all do much worse. the humanity is in not doing worse.
[00:35] <jeeves_moss> WyZeGuY, hence why I don't get involved in anything that says you should kill over what you belive in.
[00:35] <WyZeGuY> (y)
[00:36] <WyZeGuY> soooo... anyone here know how to snatch open wifi?
[00:36] <jeeves_moss> WyZeGuY, look for an open access point
[00:37] <WyZeGuY> what does that mean?
[00:37] <jeeves_moss> what is your wieless adaptor listed as? Wlan0?
[00:38] <WyZeGuY> well, should be. i don't see it in the wireless settings, but i think that's what wireless always is.
[00:38] <jeeves_moss> open a shell and type "ifconfig"
[00:39] <gogis> hi there
[00:39] <WyZeGuY> ipconfig says command not found
[00:39] <WyZeGuY> oh. ifconfig
[00:39] <nicomachus> lol this isn't windows, WyZeGuY
[00:39] <WyZeGuY> yes, wlan0.
[00:39] <WyZeGuY> i'm scatterbrained.
[00:40] <gogis> is there anybody somehow contributing to Ubuntu development?
[00:42] <jeeves_moss> WyZeGuY, it should be ifconfig
[00:42] <WyZeGuY> yes, wlan0
[00:42] <jeeves_moss> WyZeGuY, ok, then run "iwscan list"
[00:42] <gshmu> i'm uncheck kernel but it downloading ... https://clbin.com/6CXXnr.png this may a bug
[00:42] <ObrienDave> gogis, yes, there are many. you can visit then in #ubuntu-devel
[00:42] <jeeves_moss> WyZeGuY, sorry, that should be "iwscan list"
[00:43] <WyZeGuY> jeeves_moss: what's the difference in what you just typed? and do i need to download this iwscan?
[00:43] <TJ-> WyZeGuY: Or even "sudo iwlist scan" !!
[00:43] <Hatycat> is it even still possible to make scopes in Unity 8?
[00:44] <WyZeGuY> Interface doesn't support scanning.
[00:44] <jeeves_moss> WyZeGuY, no, it's installed already. it's the wirelessconfig mod
[00:44] <WyZeGuY> oh, but wlan0 says Scan completed with some info. what's important here?
[00:45] <TJ-> WyZeGuY: Look at the ESSIDs that were found, those are the access points discovered
[00:45] <WyZeGuY> yes, I'm connected to an open wifi point right now, Hart's Laundry. I'm trying to hog their wifi.
[00:46] <jeeves_moss> WyZeGuY, and why are you trying to do this?
[00:46] <WyZeGuY> so that it doesn't run snail pace
[00:46] <WyZeGuY> and good to know for the future
[00:46] <Hatycat> kekkers
[00:47] <jeeves_moss> anyways guys, I'm going to head back to the house. I have a server to break
[00:48] <WyZeGuY> oh noes
[00:50] <pbx> i broke my notification style - now it's just pale blue boxes in the upper left instead of the nice style floating ones (in the upper right) i had before. how do i unbreak? i thought it was from installing i3 but i removed that...
[00:50] <pbx> 14.04 linux, unity fwiw
[00:58] <Maimster> Samba4 AD-DC can be a real pain in the butt. Now that it's working I feel better.
[01:00] <digdeep> For a couple of days, my ubuntu clock is out of sync, even it is configured to sync with the internet
[01:09] <fotografisto> what's a replacement for dvd shrink in ubuntu?
[01:10] <bazhang> !handbrake | fotografisto
[01:11] <bazhang> fotografisto, also avconv and ffmpeg
[01:11] <fotografisto> gui for those programs?
[01:11] <bazhang> smplayer with mpv fotografisto
[01:11] <bazhang> winff for ffmpeg
[01:12] <bazhang> or is that mencoder
[01:12] <vastkahuna> What do I need to do to Ubuntu in order to be able to play videos from Comcast?
[01:12] <bazhang> !info winff
[01:12] <fronce_> handbrake has a gui, dvdbackup has a cli
[01:12] <fotografisto> I think you need a tv tuner vastkahuna
[01:12] <bazhang> vastkahuna, got ubuntu-restricted-extras installed yet
[01:13] <OerHeks> For most Flash + DRM issues i would say install chrome
[01:13] <vastkahuna> Not yet. How do I do that?
[01:14] <bazhang> vastkahuna, install from the package manager
[01:18] <nicomachus> uh.... what's the administrative password for a live usb?
[01:18] <nicomachus> I'm trying to open nautilus with gksu and it's asking for an administrative password...
[01:21] <TJ-> nicomachus: there isn't one. Use gksudo
[01:22] <lagreca> hi, I'm running xubuntu 14.04.2. Whenever I set brightness to the lowest levels using fn keys and I let my laptop screen dimmed for a long time, I cannot reset brightness to a normal or highest levels. It goes dark, but cannot be light again.
[01:22] <lagreca> What can I do in order to solve that?
[01:22] <michelubuntu_> TJ-: long time no see
[01:26] <vastkahuna> I installed restricted extras and comcast is saying I need to update flash but ubuntu says I have that already
[01:27] <fotografisto> vastkahuna ubuntu may not be as up to date as adobe's flash
[01:27] <fotografisto> go to adobes site you should be able to download it there
[01:27] <fotografisto> for linux
[01:28] <fotografisto> https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/ vastkahuna
[01:29] <vastkahuna> It's showing 4 different options, which one do I need?
[01:30] <xangua> (20:13:08) OerHeks: For most Flash + DRM issues i would say install chrome - vastkahuna
[01:30] <teward> vastkahuna: Comcast is identifying that you need Flash updated, which you cant get in Ubuntu repos anymore due to Flash dropping Linux support outside of that packaged in Google Chrome
[01:30] <xangua> fotografisto: there hasn't been a major flash upgrade since 2012, only security updates
[01:30] <teward> vastkahuna: so I suggest installing Google Chrome.
[01:31] <teward> xangua: and even then, their linux roadmap shows they're planning on total dropping, no new updates, soon enough. No date, but it said 'soon' last i looked
[01:31] <vastkahuna> So do I get it from the ubuntu software center or from google?
[01:31] <maxxxxx> Hi. Would someone be so kind as to tell me how to mount my windows partition for the purpose of continuing to resize it?
[01:31] <fotografisto> ubuntu software center vastkahuna
[01:32] <teward> vastkahuna: https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/index.html or the software center
[01:32] <kostkon> teward, security updates for 11.2.x till 2014, that's the roadmap afaik
[01:32] <teward> vastkahuna: then use Chrome instead of Firefox
[01:32] <maxxxxx> fotografisto: me?
[01:32] <teward> kostkon: close enough, but since it's 2015, that effectively means it's all dead
[01:32] <kostkon> teward, errm, 2017*
[01:32] <nicomachus> ughhhh. I'm trying to use rsync to move a temp-mounted encrypted home folder to an external HDD, through a live usb. I can navigate to the ecryptfs location in /mnt/tmp, but rsync says there is no such file or directory there. and if I try to actually go inside the ecryptfs folder, it says permission denied.
[01:32] <vastkahuna> OK I'm going to try that now
[01:32] <kostkon> teward, sorry
[01:32] <teward> kostkon: still close enough, everything uses the higher version for checks :0
[01:32] <xangua> vastkahuna: you get Google Chrome, from Google Chrome's site
[01:33] <kostkon> vastkahuna, http://www.google.com/chrome/
[01:33] <fotografisto> ?
[01:33] <kostkon> vastkahuna, double click on the .deb file
[01:33] <vastkahuna> OK
[01:34] <maxxxxx> Anybody?
[01:35] <Ereur01> hi
[01:35] <teward> maxxxxx: if the resize was interrupted you have bigger problems, likely...
[01:35] <Ereur01> im new here
[01:35] <void> welcome Ereur01
[01:35] <Ereur01> thanks
[01:36] <maxxxxx> No that's not the issue. When I boot the gparted livecd, it says the files can't be read and its status is unmounted so it won't tell me how much space I can resize, and won't allow me to resize, reward
[01:36] <maxxxxx> * teward
[01:37] <teward> maxxxxx: what's the exact error it says
[01:37] <void> maxxxxx, u tried resize in windows partition manager?
[01:38] <teward> maxxxxx: alternatively, use Windows to live resize the thing, if you're on Win7 or later
[01:38] <maxxxxx> void: it continues querying for available space into infinity
[01:38] <teward> s/the thing/itself/
[01:38] <maxxxxx> Hold on ill take a picture
[01:39] <vastkahuna> OK after installing it told me this program is run from a terminal, so do I really need to open a terminal to run chrome or am I misunderstanding?
[01:40] <maxxxxx> Teward: void: https://i.imgur.com/l7Tg0XN.jpg
[01:41] <teward> maxxxxx: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g (confirm this is installed)
[01:41] <maxxxxx> Ugh okay hold on I have to boot Linux now
[01:41] <kostkon> vastkahuna, ignore that message
[01:42] <maxxxxx> teward: can I do that on gparted or do I have to boot Ubuntu?
[01:42] <kostkon> vastkahuna, just search for it in the dash or look for it in your menu
[01:43] <teward> maxxxxx: you can do that from the live image
[01:43] <teward> (ideally it should already be there though...)
[01:44] <maxxxxx> (I already hooted ubuntu oops
[01:44] <maxxxxx> )
[01:44] <maxxxxx> It was upgraded
[01:46] <maxxxxx> teward: okay now what
[01:47] <maxxxxx> teward: ....
[01:47] <teward> maxxxxx: try gparted now
[01:47] <teward> maxxxxx: and patience i'm not JUST in this channel, i'm in several
[01:47] <maxxxxx> Sorry...
[01:47] <psusi> maxxxxx, looks like the partition is corrupt... run scandisk on it from windows
[01:47] <teward> maxxxxx: i also agree with psusi
[01:47] <maxxxxx> Fuck....
[01:48] <maxxxxx> psusi: how
[01:48] <teward> maxxxxx: language. that kind of language is bad here, don't.
[01:48] <vastkahuna_> I just installed chrome from google and two things, one is comcast is still telling me I need to update flash when I try to play a video, second is the ubuntu software center is telling me that chrome is run from a terminal. What does that mean?
[01:48] <maxxxxx> Sorry again
[01:48] <teward> maxxxxx: boot to windows, run `chkdsk /f` and have it reboot to check.
[01:48] <psusi> or click scandisk in the gui maybe?
[01:48] <OerHeks> " for the purpose of continuing to resize it?" did you interrupt it?...
[01:48] <teward> maxxxxx: Or boot to a Windows install disk to use its recovery environment
[01:48] <teward> psusi: it'll still force reboot
[01:48] <teward> psusi: can't make changes to Win filesys when mounted/running apparently
[01:48] <teward> (ran into that with my dualboot last week)
[01:48] <pbx> vastkahuna_, chrome does not install flash. that's a separate bit.
[01:48] <maxxxxx> I don't have an install disk
vastkahuna, ignore that message
[01:49] <psusi> teward, that's true of most filesystems, but that's not what the message is saying
[01:49] <maxxxxx> Is there a way to just blast windows from the disk?
[01:49] <kostkon> vastkahuna_, you probably missed my earlier message
[01:49] <teward> psusi: True, but 'scandisk' from inside Windows will enforce a reboot to actually fix things
[01:49] <pbx> vastkahuna_, dont' worry about starting chrome from terminal, just tap the windows key and type 'chrome' (among other ways)
[01:49] <teward> psusi: and from that, I speak of experience, unless you mean from Linux?
[01:49] <psusi> maxxxxx, you don't care about any files in that partition? then just delete it
[01:49] <lnxmen> Is there any way to downgrade Plasma5 in Kubuntu 15.04?
[01:49] <maxxxxx> Okay hold on I'm gonna see if anything important is left...
[01:50] <psusi> teward, yea, of course we're talking about from linux?
[01:52] <OerHeks> lnxmen, no.
[01:52] <teward> psusi: i think you need to explain to me how to run a scandisk from Linux, unless i'm so tired I'm misreading you
[01:52] <teward> (I'm still up at that spot)
[01:52] <lnxmen> OerHeks: Well, okay. Thank you.
[01:53] <OerHeks> lnxmen, you might want to check #kubuntu too, but you would get the same answer i guess
[01:53] <lnxmen> I have already checked.
[01:53] <psusi> teward, you don't... you run it from windows, as I said...
[01:53] <lnxmen> (I mean, no response.)
[01:53] <vastkahuna_> OK that got it fixed, but now I have two versions of chrome instaleed, googles official one and also chromium. Do I need them both?
[01:54] <teward> psusi: i missed that, sorry, i'm tired from dissecting python code at work all day :/
[01:54] <kostkon> vastkahuna_, you only need chrome, since chromium comes without pepperflash support
[01:55] <vastkahuna_> OK thanks
[01:55] <kostkon> vastkahuna_, scratch that. you can install pepperflash in chromium.
[01:55] <kostkon> vastkahuna_, as well*
[01:55] <vastkahuna_> OK
[01:56] <kostkon> vastkahuna_, for DRM playback though, Chrome is a safe bet.
[01:56] <vastkahuna_> Now if I want to install the restricted extras from the terminal, what command do I need?
[01:57] <kostkon> vastkahuna_, either search for ubuntu-restricted-extras in the software centre, or just give sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras in a terminal
[01:58] <vastkahuna_> OK
[02:00] <maxxxxx> Alright I'm nuking windows
[02:05] <treeprogram> If I install both Ubuntu and Windows on a single machine, and the Windows machines get a virus like CTB Locker, can the virus affect the files on the partition used by Ubuntu?
[02:05] <kali__> can someone help me ?
[02:05] <treeprogram> I'm trying to determine whether my Ubuntu files will be endangered due to installing Windows in a dual-boot setting
[02:06] <maxxxxx> No.
[02:06] <maxxxxx> Not unless you open the infected file in the Ubuntu setting
[02:07] <kali__> Is there anyway to hack wordpress websites without brute force password ?
[02:07] <kali__> From vulnerabilities ?
[02:08] <kali__> ????
[02:08] <psusi> treeprogram, just make sure you tell windows to install to a partition you create for it and to leave the ubuntu partition alone, then you have to reinstall grub so you can boot ubuntu again
[02:08] <psusi> kali__, I sense a ban stick in your future
[02:09] <kali__> ?
[02:09] <kali__> psusi ?
[02:09] <maxxxxx> kali__: this channel isn't about helping people partake in illegal/illicit behavior
[02:10] <kali__> ok , talk privately :P
[02:10] <maxxxxx> psusi: how do you check drive size in terminal?
[02:11] <psusi> maxxxxx, from the perspective of the filesystem if it is mounted? df.. raw disk? lsblk or parted -l or fdisk pl
[02:11] <OerHeks> silly kali__ , your question is offtopic here in #ubuntu and illegal on #freenode.
[02:11] <psusi> fdisk -l rather, not pl
[02:14] <rapper97> What is the difference between setting the boot loader device at e.g. /dev/sda vs /dev/sda2 ?
[02:15] <maxxxxx> I did df -h
[02:15] <maxxxxx> Thanks
[02:16] <nicomachus> dd needs a progress option.
[02:18] <rapper97> nicomachus>> I just heard someone the other night talking about making it do so with pv but I have no idea how one would do that.
[02:18] <nicomachus> rsync has a --progress flag, but not dd. :/
[02:20] <Bashing-om> nicomachus: Well, there is a means to get a status of where 'dd' is . see: 'man dd ' for the instruction .
[02:21] <Ben64> pv /dev/zero | of=/dev/null
[02:21] <Ben64> dd of=/dev/null ***
[02:22] <moses> how do i have a console window always open to ssh to my irssi?
[02:22] <moses> using ubuntu
[02:22] <moses> nvm
[02:22] <moses> i got it
[02:23] <unkn0wn> @moses. use screen
[02:23] <moses> pl
[02:23] <moses> ok
[02:23] <moses> that way even if i close the terminal irssi will still be running?
[02:23] <leonic> hello hoe do i installl lx viewer
[02:24] <unkn0wn> well you can detach from your screen session and then reattach to it using screen -Udr
[02:24] <unkn0wn> screen takes a little getting used to but its worth learning
[02:25] <moses> i use it on my server when i ssh
[02:25] <moses> already
[02:25] <moses> should i use it on this comp also
[02:25] <unkn0wn> perfect. yeah just leave it running
[02:25] <leonic> i downloaded the tar.gz file but i do know how to install it
[02:25] <moses> i connect to that server via ssh from this computer
[02:25] <moses> should i run screen here also?
[02:26] <unkn0wn> well i leave it running on my server and then if i wanna irc is just jump on my server and reattach to my screen session
[02:26] <OerHeks> leonic, double click onthe tar.gz, fileroller opens, unpack it, and read the read.me inside it
[02:27] <unkn0wn> ive also heard of tmux but never used it.
[02:27] <unkn0wn> been meaning to check that out
[02:28] <leonic> is home my working directori or is system ?¿
[02:29] <Ben64> whatever directory you are in
[02:30] <OerHeks> leonic, yes, home
[02:30] <OerHeks> ( to unpack from fileroller)
[02:33] <sylar> maybe someone here knows, how private is chating over xchat and here
[02:34] <reisio> sylar: not
[02:34] <reisio> and even if it were, you'd be chatting in a room with 1737 other people
[02:34] <reisio> make that 1500 other people and 237 covert logging bots
[02:35] <moses> whats a really good programming text editor to use for ubuntu? vim?
[02:35] <sylar> i was just curious, i always noticed that xchat existed, but never used it... What's its purpose
[02:35] <moses> for a beginner
[02:35] <reisio> moses: yes
[02:35] <reisio> moses: mmm, Vim takes a little learning, run 'vimtutor' if you're interested
[02:35] <reisio> otherwise it doesn't really matter, whatever comes with your DE will work until you graduate
[02:35] <reisio> sylar: it's an IRC client
[02:36] <reisio> IRC's purpose is manifold
[02:36] <reisio> IRC conveys all knowledge
[02:36] <reisio> IRC destroys all time
[02:36] <reisio> IRC satisfies all desires
[02:36] <reisio> IRC satisfies none
[02:36] <neurot> lol
[02:37] <nicomachus> sylar: are you using a VPN?
[02:37] <nicomachus> or proxy of any kind?
[02:37] <sylar> i probably am not
[02:37] <nicomachus> Looks like you're currently in Slunj, Croatia.
[02:37] <nicomachus> I can give latitude and longitude if you want.
[02:38] <nicomachus> Does that answer your question about privacy?
[02:38] <sylar> thats wrong but close... how did you do that
[02:38] <sylar> pretty much
[02:38] <neurot> sylar nicomachus is the FBI
[02:38] <nicomachus> haha, closer than you think to the truth, neurot. ;)
[02:39] <sylar> or he used my ip
[02:39] <neurot> sia
[02:39] <sylar> :D
[02:39] <neurot> cia
[02:39] <nicomachus> sylar: all of this information is freely available for all users: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11693694/
[02:40] <neurot> nicomachus your taking advantage of a VPN
[02:40] <nicomachus> of course.
[02:41] <nabin> hi
[02:41] <neurot> private Internet access VPN is the best one for no logs
[02:41] <neurot> smart man
[02:41] <nicomachus> eh, they're still located in the US. But we're off topic now.
[02:41] <dem0n> hola
[02:42] <unkn0wn> agreed PIA is the best
[02:42] <neurot> hola
[02:42] <Koyaanis> but how do you know if a VPN is really not logging
[02:42] <dem0n> i don't know if PIA is the absolute best
[02:42] <dem0n> ibvpn and cyberghost are really good
[02:42] <reisio> that's why you use two proxies :p
[02:42] <reisio> or eleven
[02:42] <nicomachus> I prefer 9 proxies, personally.
[02:42] <unkn0wn> thats a great point. you dont.. haha you just have to take their word for it
[02:42] <reisio> from a café
[02:42] <dem0n> reisio lol
[02:42] <reisio> while wearing shades
[02:42] <reisio> or you could just buy a baseball bat
[02:42] <nicomachus> but again, anything that isn't ubuntu support should be taken to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:42] <reisio> that keeps people from screwing you, too
[02:42] <dem0n> there is always the test...
[02:42] <dem0n> use your vpn
[02:43] <unkn0wn> why not host your own vpn server?
[02:43] <dem0n> post of facebook that you are are a terrorist
[02:43] <nicomachus> GUYS.
[02:43] <Koyaanis> ALLAHU AQBAR
[02:43] <dem0n> if your door doesn't get kicked in...they don't log
[02:43] <reisio> people say vpn when they mean proxy
[02:43] <nicomachus> talk about VPN's on ##networking or #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:43] <somsip> !ot
[02:43] <nicomachus> thanks somsip
[02:43] <reisio> dem0n: free speech in my country :D
[02:43] <dem0n> nico...okay okay
[02:44] <Koyaanis> lets go to networking
[02:44] <HoloIRCUser1> What is new in ubuntu 15.04
[02:44] <Koyaanis> systemd
[02:44] <somsip> HoloIRCUser1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes#New_features_in_15.04
[02:44] <dem0n> wow is ubuntu 15 already out?...
[02:45] <somsip> dem0n: 15.04 in April '15, and 15.10 in Oct '15
[02:46] <nicomachus> how long should this dd command take to run?
[02:46] <gh0strider> which dd command?..
[02:46] <nicomachus> I'm cloning a 1TB internal HDD to a 1TB external HDD, but there's less than 400 GB of data
[02:46] <gh0strider> that will take awhile
[02:46] <somsip> nicomachus: often depends on the BS setting. Paste the command
[02:47] <nicomachus> sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdc
[02:47] <nicomachus> executed it about an hour ago.
[02:48] <gh0strider> BS setting is a factor that is for sure...but writting 400GB will take awhile regardless
[02:48] <somsip> nicomachus: :) - well, 1TB is a lot. FWIW http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2139027
[02:48] <nicomachus> it's also going over usb 2.0
[02:48] <somsip> nicomachus: then I'd adjust my estimate to 'longer than a while'
[02:49] <nicomachus> lol
[02:49] <nicomachus> guess I'll just plan on letting it run overnight...
[02:49] <teward> nicomachus: which further slows down your transfer rate, 3.0 would be faster. And 1TB is a lot of data. 400GB being transferred is definitely a while at least, potentially even over a couple hours depending on different factors
[02:49] <somsip> nicomachus: I was just going to suggest you sleep on it
[02:49] <teward> nicomachus: that'd be my idea, yes, let it keep running overnight
[02:49] <reisio> nicomachus: why dd?
[02:49] <nicomachus> teward: if the mobo supported 3.0 that's how it would be moving.
[02:50] <teward> nicomachus: still not my point, even then it'd still take a while, suggestion is to leave it running overnight.
[02:50] <nicomachus> reisio: it's an encrypted drive and I'm having trouble getting to the Home folder data.
[02:50] <nicomachus> the mobo/RAM/CPU all may be bad, so I'm just cloning the drive to an external and going to try to recover from my laptop.
[02:52] <nicomachus> this is basically a last-ditch effort to recover the data.
[02:53] <reisio> nicomachus: what, the drive is dying?
[02:54] <nicomachus> reisio: bootloader is completely broken. I've tried so many different things. originally the grub config was trying to boot the 3.13 kernel when 3.19 was installed, but I fixed that and still can't boot.
[02:54] <reisio> bootloader has nothing to do with data integrity, really
[02:54] <nicomachus> it's encrypted though. and it doesn't want to unwrap the passphrase.
[02:55] <reisio> you're probably typing it wrong, or using it wrong, then
[02:55] <nicomachus> lol, no.
[02:55] <reisio> that's a problem, but there's no reason to suspect your data is in trouble
[02:55] <nicomachus> when I thought I finally had it, every file in the folder showed up as "ecrypt.fsxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" with a ton of random characters.
[02:56] <DrBotato> I'm super stuck on getting a init.d script working. when i run the service directly it loads fine, but when i try to start it with sudo service it doesn't run, it doesn't produce any errors it just goes back to the command line. This is my script: http://kopy.io/PEE1I
[02:56] <HoloIRCUser1> Try to repair bootloader boot-repair nicomachus
[02:56] <reisio> nicomachus: that sounds about right, actually
[02:57] <reisio> nicomachus: ecryptfs is FUSE based, IIRC
[02:57] <reisio> haven't used it, though
[02:57] <Hatycat> I hate to be a spammer, but does anybody know anything about custom lenses for dash in unity 8? i want muh built in youtube search
[02:57] <nicomachus> HoloIRCUser1: been there. that was the first thing I tried, of course. and yes reisio it's FUSE
[02:57] <reisio> I wouldn't dd a TB over it, anyway
[02:57] <RazWelles> So I'm installing gnome-ubuntu, and when I get to the option to "Erase disk and install" it shows the hourglass-yin-yang icon for a few moments then goes back to mouse
[02:57] <RazWelles> I can't seem to get it to go into install beyond tha
[02:57] <RazWelles> Any idea what's up?
[02:57] <nicomachus> reisio: it's going to get a fresh install on the internal HDD anyway, doesn't hurt me any to clone it over to the external first.
[02:58] <reisio> :p
[02:58] <nicomachus> except time. haha
[02:58] <nicomachus> but that's what they made cigs and beer for. waiting.
[03:12] <Johnny_Linux> longdong
[03:16] <ballyhoo> Is this the appropriate place to ask questions about running Ubuntu on a Macbook Air?
[03:18] <nicomachus> ask away, ballyhoo
[03:19] <auba> hey , i have some badsectors in my hard disk , how can i fix that ?
[03:19] <ballyhoo> It rather concerns the battery life issue. I have an early 2014 Macbook Air and when running Ubuntu the battery life seems to be abysmal. Is there something that I've missed or not configured properly?
[03:20] <xor_ax_ax> could it be normal battery wear?
[03:21] <ballyhoo> xor_ax_ax, I don't think so. I get 9-12 hours on OSX.
[03:21] <nicomachus> ballyhoo: do you dual-boot and still get 9-12 hours?
[03:22] <ballyhoo> Yeah, I was dual booting with refind and while booted into OSX I get around 9-12 hours, but in Ubuntu I'm lucky to get 3 hours.
[03:23] <ballyhoo> I know the Macbook Air is a rather custom piece of hardware, but I just wanted to check to see if there was something I was missing.
[03:24] <rican-linux> I just installed Ubuntu-GNOME on my MBP and my wife's MB Air
[03:24] <nicomachus> ballyhoo: perhaps this will help? https://askubuntu.com/questions/158778/why-does-ubuntu-have-about-2x-shorter-battery-life-than-os-x-on-macbook
[03:24] <nicomachus> seems to indicate drivers that have poor power management.
[03:24] <RonWhoCares> I am trying to burn a DVD. The previous burn failed. There is no "CUT" option to remove the files from the previous one. Is there a way to remove them?
[03:24] <Ben64> is it a dvdr
[03:25] <RonWhoCares> The DVD isn't burned
[03:25] <RonWhoCares> It is in a cache some where
[03:25] <nicomachus> ballyhoo: this will be helpful, I think: https://askubuntu.com/questions/285434/is-there-a-power-saving-application-similar-to-jupiter/285681#285681
[03:25] <Ben64> RonWhoCares: what software
[03:25] <ballyhoo> nicomachus, seems to be the case. It's a fairly new machine so it is quite possible. I'll try this laptop-mode-tools thing, though.
[03:25] <felix__29> Hi, has anybody experience with ubuntu 14.04 getting stuck on the purple screen when booting?
[03:25] <RonWhoCares> Ben64: CD/DVD Creator Folder is showing
[03:26] <nicomachus> ballyhoo: that second link is VERY detailed on different power-saving methods.
[03:27] <ballyhoo> nicomachus, ahh, I see now. Lots of information. Thanks for the help! Lots to try out now.
[03:30] <RonWhoCares> how O di remove it
[03:30] <RonWhoCares> how do I clear that folder
[03:31] <nicomachus> felix__29: can you be more specific?
[03:31] <michael_p> hi
[03:32] <michael_p> i tried to install nvidia drivers 3.46 on 15.04 it gets me to the splash screen then the screen gose blank
[03:35] <Bashing-om> michael_p: The 346 driver is available in the software reposistory in release 15.04; How are you installing the driver ?
[03:36] <michael_p> there is a youtube channel
[03:37] <nicomachus> a youtube channel?
[03:38] <michael_p> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsQ8WhYmE3M
[03:38] <michael_p> but its for 14.04
[03:40] <nicomachus> that's for the 340 driver. can you boot now or does it just go to black?
[03:41] <Bashing-om> michael_p: If you have not installed any proprietary driver. the driver is available in the repo. just install it by ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' / That is a big IF .
[03:43] <doublethinker> hello. I am trying to update with software updater but it says I don't have enough space.
[03:44] <somsip> doublethinker: so what do you need help with?
[03:45] <doublethinker> increasing space to the partition
[03:45] <somsip> !gparted | doublethinker
[03:45] <Bashing-om> doublethinker: Try terminal command ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' to remove the old kernels.
[03:46] <doublethinker> i have gparted open
[03:46] <doublethinker> the /boot only has 250mb
[03:46] <somsip> doublethinker: you know you cant resize a partition that is in use?
[03:47] <michael_p> this is it if it dont work i have reinstall
[03:47] <doublethinker> somsip, what do I do then?
[03:48] <nicomachus> Bashing-om: old kernels are stored in /boot aren't they? and it'll allow quite a few to build up before autoremove even touches them.
[03:48] <Bashing-om> doublethinker: Maybe a victum also ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357093 .
[03:48] <somsip> doublethinker: take Bashing-om's advice on removing old kernels first as it's the easy solution. Have you done that>?
[03:49] <WyZeGuY> is it a good idea to disable SSH root login, to prevent hacking? is that what that does?
[03:49] <Ben64> it comes disabled
[03:50] <somsip> WyZeGuY: restriction of access is an important part of security
[03:50] <WyZeGuY> oh cool
[03:50] <nicomachus> doublethinker: instructions on deleting old kernels here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels
[03:50] <doublethinker> i ran the command Bashing-om posted, now i'm trying to update again
[03:50] <WyZeGuY> Ben64: thanks
[03:51] <Bashing-om> nicomachus: No, apt-get has been re-written to remove old jernels and leave the 2 latest ( in default settings )
[03:51] <nicomachus> Bashing-om: as of when? I had to manually remove 4 old kernels last week.
[03:53] <Bashing-om> nicomachus: As of 13.04 best I recall . We need to look and see what you have configured . 12.04 does not have this ability !
[03:54] <nicomachus> it was a machine going from 14.10 to 15.04. It's done and gone now, was a friend's.
[04:00] <doublethinker> it worked. thank you folk.
[04:02] <Zarathuztra> Looking for some help with ubuntu server 14.04 -- Can't seem to see it on my network. 1st time setup
[04:05] <Bashing-om> nicomachus: K, next time you run into this, check " /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove-kernels " file .
[04:06] <Bashing-om> doublethinker: :) add your voice to the bug report, please .
[04:08] <nicomachus> my laptop seems to be fine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11694062/
[04:10] <doublethinker> Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.
[04:10] <nicomachus> who ever said one man can't make a difference?
[04:11] <Bashing-om> nicomachus: Yepper, look'n good .' uname -r ] say you are up on 3.13.0-54-generic ?
[04:12] <nicomachus> -53
[04:13] <Bashing-om> nicomachus: Well there is a kernal update to -54 .
[04:13] <nicomachus> isn't 15.04 on 3.19?
[04:14] <nicomachus> my laptop is still on 14.04
[04:15] <Bashing-om> nicomachus: the 3.19 series is wily .
[04:18] <nicomachus> the harddrive I'm working on recovering right now had grub broken on the 14.10-15.04 upgrade because of the 3.19 kernel. grub config was trying to 3.13 but 3.19 was installed.
[04:19] <nicomachus> and, of course, as soon as you mention the update to -54: https://imgur.com/A63KXj6
[04:19] <Bashing-om> Micromus: HWE - HardWare Enablement stack - pops to mind . Unless there is a need, don't !
[04:25] <ircnode0> somebody know why I can't get wired network. However, after I suspend and start Ubuntu 14.04, then I will always get wired network. This happens always when I reboot my machine. The computer is dual bootted.
[04:27] <Kubishime> Anyone able to help me un-fuck myself? Need to create a bootable installer for OSX on Linux...
[04:28] <Ben64> first off, watch the language in this channel, and secondly, you should be asking the osx support channel how to do that
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> ircnode0: whats your network card chipset?
[04:31] <ircnode0> lotuspsychje: "Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection I217-LM (rev 04)"
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> ircnode0: and driver loaded?
[04:34] <ircnode0> lotuspsychje: "firmware=0.13-3"
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> ircnode0: and in front? intel..?
[04:35] <ircnode0> lotuspsychje: this "/sys/class/net/eth0/device/driver -> ../../../bus/pci/drivers/e1000e"?
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> ircnode0: sudo lshw -C network should show it behind driver=
[04:37] <ircnode0> lotuspsychje: driver=e1000e driverversion=2.3.2-k
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> ircnode0: did you install ubuntu with internet enabled + updates during setup?
[04:38] <ircnode0> lotuspsychje: I just click "Install Ubuntu", then Ubuntu install something in the background. ^^;;
[04:39] <ircnode0> lotuspsychje: I didn't select any package.
[04:39] <jr_> Does the desktop sharing app that comes with ubuntu encrypted by default?
[04:39] <jr_> is the desktop sharing app*
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> ircnode0: sta setup start you can choose to enable updates during install
[04:40] <ircnode0> lotuspsychje: you want me to update packages?
[04:40] <jr_> I am looking up information on the desktop sharing app and some people say that it is but I want someone to confirm it for me
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> ircnode0: are you up to date to 14.04.2?
[04:41] <Ben64> jr_: yep, uses encrypted vnc
[04:42] <ircnode0> lotuspsychje: Yes I am. "Description:Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS", from lsb_release -a
[04:42] <jr_> Ben64: thanks. I'm reading the reviews in the store...a lot of people say it can't establish connections...is this true or do you think these people are just being salty?
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> ircnode0: maybe check the intel website for more recent driver?
[04:43] <Ben64> hard to find a client on windows that can do it easily, but thats not the fault of the program
[04:43] <jr_> Ben64: ah I'm using everything ubuntu. No windows. One last thing, I'm seeing that it eats up processing power. More salty people?
[04:45] <ircnode0> lotuspsychje: The driver always work after the suspension. I find it annoying to start Ubuntu, suspend and wake Ubuntu up to get network work.
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> ircnode0: maybe try a no_acpi boot?
[04:46] <Ben64> jr_: i'm running it+2 games on wine+mythtv+steam+other stuff, and everything works fine for me, idk
[04:46] <jr_> Ben64: sounds cash. Thx BB
[04:46] <jr_> :*
[04:46] <wad> So I've got a command I'd like to run automatically on my Ubuntu box, every night at 8. Normally, I'd use cron. But this won't work, because the command does a bunch of ssh commands to different boxen. Is there a way to get around this?
[04:46] <EriC^^> wad: why don't you put them in a script and use cron to run that?
[04:47] <wad> I've got it in a script.... but won't this still lack my kets?
[04:47] <wad> s/kets/keys/
[04:47] <wad> I assumed it would not... I'll try it.
[04:48] <ircnode0> lotuspsychje: Well I can try that. I will also try to remove network module and insert it back also.
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> ircnode0: yeah i would try a fresh 14.04 install with all updates enabled during install + internet on
[04:50] <ircnode0> lotuspsychje: thank you for helping.
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> ircnode0: no sweat mate
[04:51] <jr_> I'm trying to configure the port for remote desktop in ubuntu. How do I do this?
[04:51] <jr_> Ben42: Sorry to call on you again. Do you know?
[04:52] <wad> Okay, yeah, that fails.
[04:52] <wad> The cron process doesn't have access to my keys and such.
[04:52] <EriC^^> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/8903/not-able-to-ssh-in-to-remote-machine-using-shell-script-in-crontab
[04:52] <EriC^^> wad: ^
[04:52] * wad clicky
[04:54] <wad> Aha! That looks like what I needed!
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> jr_: for one time use, you can try teamviewer also
[04:58] <linuxuz3r> is there a dev channel for ubuntu
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> jr_: just be carefull with remote viewing software enabled 24/7
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> linuxuz3r: #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-touch
[04:59] <jr_> lotuspsychje: I can't use teamviewer. It is not cleared as an industry standard (work)
[04:59] <jr_> Also it records sessions, this is confidential info.
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> jr_: ah okay, vnc over ssh or only ssh?
[04:59] <jr_> either, so long as it is encrypted
[05:00] <jr_> yes I know it's encrypted
[05:00] <jr_> lol
[05:00] <Shaun_> I recently have installed mozilla browser from its souce site but how to install these apps in tar.bz2 format in ubuntu?
[05:00] <jr_> But I can't figure out how to set the port for the client computer
[05:00] <zztopless> Hi, Does anyone know if using two GPUs for CUDA data processing, do they need to be in SLI (or xfire, but SLI in this case)? These are two 570 GTXs (differnt brands)
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> Shaun_: router or firewall block?
[05:01] <Shaun_> firefox
[05:01] <jr_> lotuspsychje: do you know how?
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> Shaun_: why did you install firefox from source?
[05:01] <jr_> I cant find anything on google
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> jr_: remote desktop should work out of the box i think
[05:02] <jr_> lotuspsychje: yes I know. But I want to set the ports myself
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> jr_: will be in some config, nto sure where
[05:03] <jr_> dang
[05:03] <jr_> Thanks for the info
[05:03] <Shaun_> there were updates of mozilla but canonical provides its critical updates. can you help me in its maual setup and installeation?
[05:04] <Shaun_> Its next update would be in April 2017 by canonical.
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> Shaun_: its reccomended to use firefox version, for the ubuntu version you have
[05:04] <OerHeks> Shaun_, that is not true
[05:05] <ltk_> why is win8 starting so faster?
[05:05] <Shaun_> You can check out software center if I/m not true.
[05:05] <Shaun_> *I'm
[05:05] <aeon-ltd> ltk_: wrong channel?
[05:06] <rocko> ok hello i just downloaded nvidia driver on mu ubuntu and now it wont work
[05:06] <Kubishime> Anyone know how to create a bootable USB for Mac in Linux?
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> rocko: from where?
[05:06] <ltk_> no, i want to know linux can reach the plane
[05:07] <zztopless> ltk_ faster than what? Windows 10 is faster again, but many nix distros are faster, depends what you value
[05:07] <HoloIRCUser> Linux bootable
[05:07] <HoloIRCUser> Linux bootable ??? For mac???
[05:07] <ltk_> for example?
[05:07] <Shaun_> The installed version does not support many features provided by the latest version. So I just want you to help me in its manual installation.
[05:07] <Kubishime> HoloIRCUser yeah
[05:08] <zztopless> kubuntu 15.05 with kde 5.3 is as fast as windows 10 imo and just as pretty (both still buggy)
[05:08] <Shaun_> Is it possible by the way?
[05:08] <zztopless> *15.04
[05:08] <ltk_> compare with linux( eg: ubuntu 14.04)
[05:08] <OerHeks> Shaun_, and what is that latest version?
[05:08] <zztopless> what flavour of 14.04 are you running that is slow for you and what hardware?
[05:09] <ltk_> lenovo y430p
[05:09] <ltk_> no ssd
[05:09] <Shaun_> Its probably Firefox38
[05:10] <Shaun_> But the installed one is 18.something.
[05:10] <Shaun_> 18.0.2
[05:10] <OerHeks> !info firefox trusty
[05:11] <xangua> Shaun_ what ubuntu release are you using¿
[05:11] <OerHeks> that would be the same as the website :-)
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> doh
[05:11] <Shaun_> 12.04.1
[05:11] <OerHeks> !info firefox precise
[05:11] <xangua> Shaun_ when was the last time you run the update manager¿
[05:13] <Shaun_> I recently have installed ubuntu 12.04.1 might be 15 days ago but did not performed any update though.
[05:14] <ltk_> oh, now i fall a sleep. bye
[05:14] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:15] <OerHeks> then you will end up with 12.04.5
[05:15] <HoloIRCUser> Ubuntu Startup Disk Creator
[05:16] <HoloIRCUser> This will help u to creat usb stick for ubuntu and for all debian base os
[05:16] <Shaun_> Is it not possible to manually install the apps in ubuntu by the way?
[05:17] <brucelee> how do i bake a preseed file into a bootable efi kernel image?
[05:17] <HoloIRCUser> Kubishime
[05:17] <somsip> Shaun_: it is possible, but not always a good idea. Why do you want to do this?
[05:17] <OerHeks> Shaun_, if you are not updated, you will get errors
[05:18] <xangua> so you are far behind security updates and just want to keep on like that¿ Shaun_
[05:18] <xangua> 3 years of security updates far behind
[05:19] <OerHeks> and blaming ubuntu does not upgrade untill 2017 :-D
[05:20] * OerHeks freak poodle heartbleeds
[05:22] <wafflejock> Shaun_, it's possible it's just not typically recommended in here since manually installed packages typically don't get updates automatically and aren't tested with the OS so it's at your own risk
[05:23] <Shaun_> The new version is running .
[05:29] <Shaun_> I downloaded the files for the latest version and extracted them. In the files there was an icon of executable file for it. The firefox successfully ran but what is so surprising is it still shows the information of version 18.0.2. Any reasons?
[05:32] <Shaun_> I downloaded the files for the latest version and extracted them. In the files there was an icon of executable file for it. The firefox successfully ran but what is so surprising is it still shows the information of version 18.0.2. Any reasons?
[05:34] <excelsiora> hey, how do I get alt-shift in tty1?
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> Shaun_: you how been suggested not installing firefox from source
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> !tty | excelsiora
[05:38] <excelsiora> lotuspsychje: I'm down with all of that, my problem is the chord alt-shift doesn't work. is there a workaround?
[05:42] <excelsiora> does that make sense?
[05:42] <rick_> Hi All, If the system hang without any kernel message output, what can I do to know why it crash?
[05:42] <excelsiora> that is, I'm in tty1, in emacs orgmode, and alt-shift doesn't work
[05:43] <excelsiora> is there a workaround?
[05:43] <excelsiora> a different term emulator I could use?
[05:43] <excelsiora> tty1?
[05:45] <harishkrupo> rick_, dont you have dmesg output
[05:47] <rick_> harishkrupo, no, the system completely freeze and no console output any more...
[05:48] <harishkrupo> when does it freeze?
[05:48] <harishkrupo> do you suspect any application or does it freeze on login?
[05:49] <rick_> I play 2d test
[05:50] <rick_> and system hang randomly, sometimes play 20 hours without any error, sometimes hang
[05:50] <rick_> Since I update kernel to 3.18.14, I am interesting if I can find what happens in kernel?
[05:51] <harishkrupo> what is 2d test
[05:52] <excelsiora> should I go to Debian or Linux IRC?
[05:52] <harishkrupo> no debian will redirect you back here generally
[05:53] <harishkrupo> and if you are sure it is a kernel issue then you can go to linux irc
[05:53] * floaterdude says hello people!
[05:54] <harishkrupo> dmesg is the way to find out the messages from the kernel
[05:55] <harishkrupo> rick_, check /var/log/kern.log
[05:55] <somsip> rick_: I'd suspect hardware. Maybe you should investigate hardware issues like overheating
[05:57] <somsip> rick_: ...bad memory...failing mobo/video....etc
[05:58] <rick_> harishkrupo, system freeze and I can't do anything even check /var/log/kern.log
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> rick_: computer brand?
[05:59] <harishkrupo> rick_, kern.log has log of almost 2 days
[05:59] <harishkrupo> rick_, so restart and then check
[06:16] <CondomsOptional> hi
[06:16] <pragomer> I want to install Ubuntu 14.04 on an ACER Aspire E17.. in Bios the harddisk shows "hd0 : frozen" in Gparted Ubuntu does not see any partition... never had this issue.. whats this, "hd frozen??"
[06:16] <cfhowlett> pragomer, never seen that error but it sounds ominous
[06:16] <CondomsOptional> did you try formatting the drive to the black sector?
[06:16] <CondomsOptional> there is the black thing in gparted
[06:16] <CondomsOptional> t
[06:17] <pragomer> seems like hd is bios protected.. but no chance to edit this..
[06:17] <CondomsOptional> it's the black square it formats it to all 0s I think
[06:17] <pragomer> there ARE partitions on the disk.. because win7 is pre-installed and works !
[06:17] <cfhowlett> pragomer, should be editable on boot up
[06:17] <CondomsOptional> if you wipe the drive clean it should override no matter what
[06:18] <pragomer> mm.. yes.. I wanted to "keep" the windows as dual boot
[06:18] <IVplay> Eeeewwww... Windows...
[06:19] <CondomsOptional> also did you you boot from a flash drive?
[06:21] <tr3ee> if i would like ubuntu to be the primary os i will keep windows in virtualbox, just power up when needed
[06:22] <xangua> is that a statement or a question?
[06:27] <tr3ee> statement
[06:28] <teszt> hy :D
[06:28] <teszt> xubuntu is awesome os :D
[06:30] <teszt> we love this in our school
[06:30] <cfhowlett> teszt, this is the problem solving channel. continue it #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:47] <cestdiego> hello, anyone around? I'm in big trouble. I accidentally deleted the file `/usr/bin/i386` and I'm too afraid to reboot to see if my system was compromised
[06:48] <unclouded> "sudo ln -s setarch /usr/bin/i386" to get it back if it's Ubuntu 14.04
[06:49] <cestdiego> omg
[06:49] <cestdiego> unclouded: *thanks*
[06:50] <cestdiego> that happens when you try to delete i3 WM by sudo rm /usr/bin/i3* ;_;
[06:51] <cestdiego> oh...but I have Ubuntu 64 bits though...will that be a problem? :Oo
[06:51] <unclouded> same here and that symlink is what it looks like on my system
[06:51] <cestdiego> are there any other i3* stuff there? :(
[06:52] <unclouded> not on this machine although it's a fairly fresh installation
[06:52] <cestdiego> oh ok that's ok same here
[06:52] <cestdiego> I can't thank you enough :unclouded
[06:52] <cestdiego> :3
[06:52] <unclouded> yw
[06:52] <cestdiego> k thx gtg and restart
[06:52] <cestdiego> bai
[06:55] <nxtz> testing
[06:55] <nxtz> anyone read me?
[06:55] <cfhowlett> !test | nxtz
[06:55] <nxtz> thanks :)
[06:57] <unclouded> how would I go about diagnosing why my scanner doesn't work? simple-scan hangs with no output. I have rw permission in /dev/bus/usb/.. it's a CanoScan LiDE 20
[06:58] <AtuM> is there a way to upgrade maverick to natty at this point? can "do-release-upgrade" use "old-releases" ?
[06:58] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | AtuM
[06:59] <AtuM> tnx!
[07:14] <brucelee> does installing ubuntu in UEFI mode create an ESP
[07:15] <jeeves_moss> is there a way to set the affinity for MySQL on Debian
[07:15] <cfhowlett> jeeves_moss, wrong channel. ask #debian
[07:16] <jeeves_moss> cfhowlett, I'm actually runnung Ubuntu on this box. and ubuntu apparently is a bad word in the #mysql channel
[07:20] <jeeves_moss> ugh.... I want to go back to the 90s. things were simplier
[07:22] <unclouded> jeeves_moss: go back to the 80s: simpler still
[07:23] <cfhowlett> still too much like work. go back to the fifties when only government and universities ever had to worry about computers.
[07:26] <unclouded> I suspect some sort of USB3 thing with this scanner. it doesn't work on Ubuntu 12.04 or 14.04 on a host with USB3, doesn't work on Debian 7.8 with USB3 but *does* work on Debian 7.8 on a host with USB2 hardware
[07:40] <SubCool> anyone up... im having an issue with wine and picasa
[07:41] <OerHeks> SubCool, join the wine channel for applicationhelp
[07:41] <SubCool> well, more directly. Im having an issue installing it.
[07:41] <OerHeks> !wine
[07:41] <SubCool> ooo...
[07:41] <OerHeks> sad that picassa is discontinued for linux
[07:42] <Guest98898> !virtualizers
[07:42] <SubCool> ty, i forgot about that.
[07:43] <SubCool> It erks me too. I ran into a couple programs that work on linux for it. but i ike the face recognition.
[07:43] <SubCool> but i cant remember what they are.
[07:45] <AtuM> !Cedega
[07:45] <SubCool> i use to use it a long time ago. I might just skip it. im so done with headaches.
[07:46] <SubCool> wine is refusing to see the file. its so stupid.
[07:47] <SubCool> http://pastebin.com/NAdjgeTt
[07:47] <SubCool> like check that out..
[07:48] <Ben64> if you're in the directory already, just 'wine picasa39-setup.exe'
[07:49] <SubCool> i did, but thats the point.
[07:49] <Ben64> ls -l picasa39-setup.exe
[07:49] <SubCool> http://pastebin.com/enKkC1gt
[07:50] <SubCool> -rw-rw-r-- 1 subcool subcool 17385800 Feb 13 15:00 picasa39-setup.exe
[07:50] <Ben64> how did you install wine
[07:50] <SubCool> apt-get
[07:51] <Ben64> run winecfg, go to the drives tab, make sure you have either / or /home mapped to a drive letter
[07:54] <SubCool> good call
[07:54] <SubCool> youre too awesome
[08:01] <Evanion> Hello, I have setup a sentry running supervisor and nginx, I can start the service just fine on the sentry user, but when I try to tail the supervisor task, I get a 'no log file' error?
[08:02] <Evanion> I have tried with both syslog and absolute paths
[08:11] <shibu_> HY...
[08:12] <shibu_> I have a one pendrive which is not format in windows and by gparted how can i format this pendrive
[08:17] <shibu_> Hlo everyone
[08:20] <chris_> hi, i swapped my graphics card and upgraded to 970gtx i have nvidia-356-updates installed. my second monitor is now only present as unknown monitor and i can't select the correct resolution.
[08:25] <rob___> hello
[08:30] <igado> l
[08:33] <shibu_> HY...
[08:34] <amitprakash> Hi, it seems the uwsgi init script overrides the logto directive for the application, how do I fix this?
[08:34] <shibu_> I have one pendrive which is not formated by windows how can i format pendrive from the ubuntu?
[08:34] <shibu_> PLease help me
[08:35] <AtuM> shibu_, how big is the pendrive?
[08:35] <shibu_> 16 bb
[08:35] <shibu_> 16 gb
[08:36] <Ben64> open gparted, format to whatever you want
[08:36] <shibu_> I tried by gpated but it is not worked
[08:36] <Ben64> elaborate on 'not worked'
[08:36] <AtuM> shibu_, you might need ntfs-3g support packages
[08:37] <shibu_> How can i get ntfs-3g support packages
[08:37] <AtuM> shibu_, or mkdosfs if you want FAT32
[08:38] <Ben64> or before installing a bunch of stuff, explain what exactly you're trying to do, and what is stopping you
[08:40] <shibu_> The disk utility says Error formating disk (Error synchronizing after initial wipe:Timed out waiting for object (udisk-error-quark, 0) while i try to format my pendrive
[08:41] <AtuM> shibu_, it might be broken.. have you checked "dmesg" output?
[08:41] <Ben64> use gparted instead
[08:41] <shibu_> I used gparted but not worked
[08:41] <Ben64> not worked how...
[08:41] <shibu_> is there any graphical application for format pendrive
[08:42] <Ben64> yes. gparted
[08:42] <AtuM> shibu_, gparted is best
[08:42] <shibu_> I tried gparted believe me
[08:42] <shibu_> but not worked....
[08:42] <Ben64> well you're not saying how it 'not worked'
[08:42] <AtuM> shibu_, your pendrive might be broken.. believe me
[08:42] <Ben64> so how do you expect anyone to help you
[08:43] <shibu_> I mean while i tried to format by gparted then pendrive is not format
[08:43] <shibu_> I tried all system
[08:43] <AtuM> Ben64, he's written how: (Error synchronizing after initial wipe:Timed out waiting for object (udisk-error-quark, 0
[08:44] <Ben64> he said that was the disk utility
[08:44] <shibu_> HLo
[08:44] <shibu_> Yep
[08:44] <yacc> Any idea what could be the cause the color calibration dialog does show only 2 of my 3 displays? (the VGA connected one is not shown, while the HDMI connected one shows up kind of twice, once as DP1 and once with monitor name)
[08:46] <AtuM> Ben64, true,.. disk utility complaining about hardware..
[08:47] <shibu_> I want to install android adb on ubuntu any idea simply install adb on ubuntu?
[08:50] <k1l> shibu_: its in the repos
[08:51] <k1l> shibu_: install the packages android-tools-adb and android-tools-fastboot
[08:51] <SubCool_> to remove a symlink is rmdir or rm
[08:52] <shibu_> how to install a android-tools-adb and android-tools-fastboot
[08:52] <Ben64> SubCool_: rm
[08:52] <shibu_> is there any way or terminal command than install automatically install
[08:52] <shibu_> Android adb
[08:52] <SubCool_> Ben64, rm: Storage/: is a directory
[08:53] <Ben64> then its a directory
[08:53] <k1l> shibu_: do you know how to install packages from the ubuntu repos?
[08:53] <SubCool_> its a symlink, i just put it there..
[08:53] <shibu_> i have some knowledge
[08:53] <shibu_> I am a new user
[08:53] <Ben64> SubCool_: it isn't
[08:53] <shibu_> So...
[08:53] <SubCool_> lrwxr-xr-x 1 0 80 12 Jun 11 04:48 Storage@ -> /mnt/Storage
[08:54] <Ben64> Storage@ ???
[08:54] <AtuM> shibu_, apt-get install android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot
[08:54] <k1l> !apt-get | shibu_
[08:54] <SubCool_> freenas
[08:55] <Ben64> SubCool_: http://sprunge.us/IFOe
[08:56] <barq> After doing some updates the font size is huge in kubuntu. How can I fix this?
[08:57] <shibu_> Yep i do apt-get install android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot
[08:57] <shibu_> Then what should i do
[08:58] <k1l> shibu_: did it installl?
[08:59] <shibu_> Yes
[08:59] <shibu_> It is install
[08:59] <k1l> so you have adb now.
[08:59] <shibu_> oh nice
[08:59] <shibu_> In the terminal just show 155 kb
[09:00] <shibu_> And install very fast
[09:00] <k1l> adb is not that big
[09:00] <shibu_> Then in my pc adb is install
[09:00] <k1l> shibu_: so you can use adb now
[09:01] <shibu_> ok
[09:01] <shibu_> Ok after install a adb can i root my android phone
[09:02] <k1l> shibu_: that depends on your android device
[09:02] <SubCool_> Ben64, i know its suppsoed to be simple, but i still dont get it. im getting lost.
[09:02] <k1l> best is to ask the ##android specialists how to root your device
[09:03] <SubCool_> let me pastebin something to make sure. i know we just did this yetserday.. but- ugh.
[09:06] <SubCool_> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/awDbpkL6
[09:07] <buzz_> Hello, I'm running Vivid on a MacBook Air 6,2 and can't fix the no-brightness-after-sleep problem even though I applied the instructions on the wiki for the driver.
[09:07] <Ben64> SubCool_: so... 'rm Storage\@'
[09:08] <barq> When I try updating I get http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found. How can I fix this?
[09:09] <SubCool_> http://pastebin.com/EyVcgsPv
[09:09] <SubCool_> its freenas, bsd.
[09:09] <Ben64> SubCool_: so why are you asking in #ubuntu ...
[09:09] <k1l> barq: raring is out of support. so the repos are shut down.
[09:09] <SubCool_> ur helpful.
[09:09] <k1l> barq: so upgrade asap.
[09:09] <Ben64> SubCool_: yes, for ubuntu issues i'm helpful
[09:10] <k1l> !eolupgrade | barq
[09:10] <SubCool_> yeah, but your still crazy smart.
[09:11] <Ben64> only ubuntu issues are on topic here
[09:12] <SubCool_> k- thanks for trying.
[09:14] <barq> k1l: So I just need to run sudo aptitude install linux-image-generic linux-headers-generic after doing sudo aptitude install update-manager-core update-manager ?
[09:15] <Ben64> barq: i think k1l is saying you need to upgrade to a supported release
[09:15] <barq> k1l: When I do $ lsb_release -d Description: Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS CodeName trusty
[09:16] <Ben64> ooh, then why do you have a raring repository?
[09:16] <barq> I don't know.
[09:16] <k1l> barq: no. you know that you dont get any security updates (like shellshock, ...) etc? you really need to upgrade the ubuntu to at least the 14.04 version.
[09:16] <Ben64> barq: can you pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:16] <k1l> barq: what? why did you mess with your sources then?
[09:16] <barq> I didn't mess with the sources.
[09:17] <k1l> please pastebin the /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:17] <kruso> Hey everybody. I changed from lucid to trusty and faced with IO write performance issues on trusty now. I opened a question on https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/267544. Unfortunately I got no helpful answer. Has anybody an idea where I could get more input for further analysis?
[09:17] <barq> I only have sources.list.distUpgrade
[09:18] <barq> k1l: http://paste.ofcode.org/iNTiTJ9sZ9JvYEwP9rTRbn
[09:19] <Ben64> barq: can you pastebin 'ls -l /etc/apt'
[09:20] <buzz_> Hello, I'm running Vivid on a MacBook Air 6,2 and can't fix the no-brightness-after-sleep problem even though I applied the instructions on the wiki for the driver.
[09:20] <barq> Ben64, k1l: Now I got it: http://paste.ofcode.org/GvWedrnfqkx9ZXmaawwudE
[09:21] <ubuntu-mate> hello
[09:21] <chris112> my second monitor is declared as unknown display. how to set correct resolution?
[09:21] <k1l> barq: remove the lines 3 to 9. PPAs and old repos dont belong into the sources.list
[09:23] <barq> ppa?
[09:23] <k1l> barq: and yes, you did mess with the sources.list manually. there is no way a raring repo can come into a sources.list on a saucy.
[09:23] <lumia935> Legal vBulletin 5 Connect License Status: 3Selling License Expiration - Never License Image http://www.criosphinx.net/vb.ong contact at: www.criosphinx.net/boards
[09:24] <barq> k1l: I didn't set up this VM, I inherited it.
[09:24] <k1l> barq: remove the lines 3 to 9 in sources.list. neither the PPA nor the raring repo belong in there
[09:24] <barq> Yes, I've done that now.
[09:25] <barq> Anything else I should do?
[09:25] <k1l> then run "sudo apt-get update"
[09:25] <workerbeetwo> HI :) can I step through the stdout thats already on screen to copy it to the clipboard?
[09:25] <barq> done
[09:26] <barq> Also upgrade and dist-upgrade?
[09:26] <k1l> barq: if there are missing updates, yes
[09:27] <barq> No, those two commands did nothing.
[09:27] <barq> However, now the fonts are much bigger than before I did any updates.
[09:27] <barq> I enabled forcedpi now to get them smaller, but not sure that is a good option.
[09:29] <k1l> i dont know how to change the fontsize on kde. see the settings
[09:31] <barq> What is ppa?
[09:32] <k1l> barq: 3rd party software repo
[09:32] <k1l> !ppa | barq
[09:34] <Chetic> How do I make debian installer install my custom kernel package automatically when building a custom Ubuntu-based ISO? Instead of me having to chroot into /target and do it manually.
[09:34] <Brutus> Hi, in Ubuntu Server 15.04, what is now used for startup applications?
[09:34] <IchKeksDichUm> e
[09:34] <IchKeksDichUm> f
[09:34] <IchKeksDichUm> e
[09:34] <IchKeksDichUm> f
[09:34] <IchKeksDichUm> e
[09:34] <IchKeksDichUm> f
[09:34] <k1l> Brutus: its systemd now
[09:34] <Brutus> ok
[09:35] <Brutus> trying to get two apps to auto start, using init didn't work
[09:50] <SubCool_> Ben64, thanks for the help. everyting is great now :)
[09:51] <dexter_> Hey guys, more specialised question, has anyone got any experience with VAAPI encoding in Ubuntu?
[10:00] <moses> anyone up?
[10:01] <shawniverson> zzzzzzzz
[10:02] <Swantzter> Hello!
[10:02] <Swantzter> I'm sitting here dividing with myself If I should install Ubuntu on an USB to carry with me and use on different computers when I please
[10:03] <Swantzter> And if I got a 16GB stick, it should work?
[10:04] <Swantzter> And if I boot from that stick it doesnt do anything to my computers HDD right
[10:05] <Swantzter> Am I right on it?
[10:08] <MagePsycho> how to check if command exists.. for shell script
[10:08] <IceBot3000> Swantzter: Provided the computer lets you boot from USB. No, it won't alter the HDD
[10:09] <Swantzter> Nice!
[10:10] <bstarek> Swantzter, I wouldnt let anybody boot my laptop on a usb stick
[10:10] <bstarek> Swantzter, but I assume there is TRUST involved :)
[10:11] <pl7ofit> hellooo
[10:12] <Ben64> Swantzter: you'd probably be better off using a live usb
[10:35] <ctz`recover> Hey everyone, I'm currently on a live ubuntuMATE instance because my LightDM is failing to start and I have no idea why, can anyone help me find out what's the problem_
[10:36] <n1ghtmar3> hi try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/74196/how-to-restore-lightdm-settings
[10:37] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:37] <EriC^^> paste the link here please
[10:40] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, http://termbin.com/77xr
[10:43] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: type sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
[10:43] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: nevermind, is it an encrypted install?
[10:43] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, yes it is, I've already unlocked the HDD with the passphrase to be accessible through the live instance
[10:44] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: where is it mounted?
[10:44] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, /media/ubuntu-mate/hugehash here
[10:45] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo cat /media/ubuntu-mate/....../var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:46] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: when you say lightdm doesn't start you mean you get a black screen?
[10:46] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, the only "useful" information i got from lightdm.log is that is exited with a signal6, before getting a live USB I was going through lynx+google but didnt find anything "useful" bue here's the log
[10:46] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: did you try booting with nomodeset?
[10:47] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, http://termbin.com/8ria. I wouldnt know where to set that option
[10:48] <EriC^^> !nomodeset
[10:48] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, what bothers me is that everything was working fine until yesterday
[10:48] <nayefae> Hi Guys, I am using ZF2, I have a form that has a (one to many) relationship, a site has many adverts types, in the form I want to create the site and the adverts in the same form, I am using fieldsets and collections for both, I use doctrine. everything works fine when I create the site, but site's adverts don't change when I update the site. can you help me please? Here a link to the code https://gist.github.com/nayefae/6e
[10:48] <nayefae> 9d10aeabafc72b15e7
[10:49] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: type sudo cat /media/......../var/log/lightdm/x-0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:49] <phiona> why is there no insert - horizontal line in my copy of libre office Version: 4.2.8.2?? ..... https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Inserting_a_Horizontal_Line
[10:50] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, that looks more like an error trace, thanks! wouldnt know how to parse this info though: http://termbin.com/8ria
[10:50] <ctz`recover> http://termbin.com/g26e *
[10:51] <Unhammer> nayefae, perhaps try http://framework.zend.com/irc/
[10:51] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: try sudo cat /media/.../var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:53] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, http://termbin.com/ntox
[10:54] <shome> Has anyone here ever had to backup a running vm ?
[10:54] <ctz`recover> shome, snapshots dont help?
[10:55] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: did you recently add anything to /etc/environment ?
[10:55] <phiona> why is there no insert - horizontal line in my copy of libre office Version: 4.2.8.2?? ..... https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Inserting_a_Horizontal_Line
[10:55] <shome> ctz:My knowledge of them is pretty rudimentary.
[10:55] <stevenm> Can anyone here who is a dropbox user - tell me... does the dropbox icon show up in your notification area.... or as an application indicator ?!
[10:55] <shome> I'm tasked with a disaster recovery mock scenario.
[10:55] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, not being aware of. I've tried quake3 on linux on tuesdat
[10:56] <shome> I mounted a local virtualization recovery point, RDP'd into the server, now i'm tasked with backing up the vm and having some trouble. It's a windows server.
[10:56] <shome> Windows 7 box that is.
[10:57] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: this looks similar https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1463224
[10:57] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, Also I've switched back and forth ATI's proprietary drivers and the open source ones while testing some of compiz features, don't know if that might've got anything to do with it
[10:57] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: try booting an older kernel and see if it works
[10:58] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, can I try to update my kernel from the live instance or would I have to boot from the HDD to do it?
[10:59] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: you can chroot and update it
[10:59] <EriC^^> if you have an older kernel already trying booting that from grub
[11:00] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, I'ma look into it, be right back!
[11:00] <EriC^^> ok
[11:01] <ioria> Eric^^ i was checking this bug report of yesterday.... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1463224
[11:01] <ioria> Eric^^ he just upgraded the kernel
[11:01] <shome> Anyone ever use shadow protect ?
[11:01] <hackal> Hello, how come I am not able to change resolution above 1920x1080 even if my monitor is 27" and has maximum 2560x1440 resolution?
[11:01] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, apparently I only have one kernel available, how would I got about getting another version, in a safe way
[11:01] <ctz`recover> http://termbin.com/opfp
[11:02] <Svetlana> hackal: what connector?
[11:02] <hackal> Svetlana: hdmi
[11:02] <hackal> Svetlana: I have a laptop and monitor connected with hdmi
[11:03] <Svetlana> hmdi what version?
[11:04] <hackal> I do not know, is there a way to check this in system?
[11:06] <hackal> https://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/K55VD/specifications/ says just HDMI
[11:06] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: did you mount the partition yet?
[11:07] <hackal> Svetlana: I should have at least hdmi version 1.3
[11:08] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, Yes, I've mounted before checking the logs, orelse I couldnt access said logs
[11:08] <EriC^^> i mean again since checking if you have an older kernel in grub
[11:08] <EriC^^> you did check grub, right?
[11:09] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, silly me, I checked the liveCD I guess \.\
[11:10] <Svetlana> hackal: there is some stuff like http://superuser.com/questions/119755/hdmi-with-resolution-2560-x-1440-possible so if you really want to make it work then you have to mention your hardware in some way. I'm not sure what a "Dell hdmi 1.3 limits the resolution" means, since I would think that a graphics card is more than just "dell". With that you may want to ask the question one more time in one line without highlighting me, as I suspect that this
[11:10] <Svetlana> point is where my knowledge ends.
[11:10] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: hold on
[11:10] <ctz`recover> chroot always reports permission denied when I try running any command from /media/ubuntu-mate/encryptedhdd
[11:10] <EriC^^> type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[11:11] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: or, sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/ubuntu....../boot
[11:11] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: do the second one
[11:11] <Chetic> How do I make debian installer install my custom kernel package automatically when building a custom Ubunt-based ISO? Instead of me having to chroot into /target and do it manually.
[11:12] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: which ubuntu version are you using?
[11:12] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, I'm on ubuntuMATE 15.04
[11:12] <EriC^^> !info linux-image-generic
[11:12] <EriC^^> ok, you have the latest kernel installed already
[11:12] <EriC^^> !info X
[11:12] <EriC^^> !info Xorg
[11:13] <EriC^^> !info xserver-xorg
[11:13] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, i've mounted /dev/sda1 into my HDD's /boot
[11:14] <hackal> http://askubuntu.com/questions/515994/nvidia-x-server-settings-only-shows-1-screen-laptop-external-monitor-connecte Hello, I have the same issue. In my nvidia x server settings I have one virtual monitor instead of two separate. I wasn't able to fix the issue. I do not know what to change in the config.
[11:14] <azyr> how can i get full 802.11n speeds from my wifi on ubuntu? i can get 20-25 MiB/sec (160-200 Mb/sec) when running windows 8 but only about 3 MiB/sec when running linux mint...
[11:14] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: ok, let's make this easier and type sudo mount --move /media/ubuntu..../ /mnt
[11:14] <azyr> i suppose i have to turn on some option somewhere
[11:14] <azyr> to enable the full speed
[11:15] <ctz`recover> mount: bad option. Note that moving a mount residing under a shared
[11:15] <ctz`recover> mount is unsupported.
[11:16] <EriC^^> ok, type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount $i /media/ubuntu.../hashhere$i; done
[11:16] <Brisance> GOOD DAY!
[11:16] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: sorry typo
[11:16] <EriC^^> ok, type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /media/ubuntu.../hashhere$i; done
[11:16] <Brisance> type rm -rf /*
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> Brisance not funny
[11:17] <EriC^^> !ops | Brisance
[11:17] <shome> Is anyone familiar with storage craft, shadow protect ?
[11:17] <crocket_> yo
[11:17] <Brisance> rm -rf on root dir wont work since forever
[11:17] <EriC^^> Brisance: with /* it will
[11:18] <crocket_> Can I install ubuntu solely on a btrfs partition?
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> shome is that a game?
[11:18] <crocket_> It seems grub fails to recognize /boot on btrfs.
[11:18] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, wouldnt the last part be /media/user/hddhash/$i ?
[11:18] <ctz`recover> or am I supposed to be mounting everything on top of my main hdd?
[11:19] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: no, cause $i has a leading /
[11:19] <crocket_> grub so pervert
[11:20] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, ok I have 2 /dev and 2 /pts mounts now
[11:20] <ctz`recover> inside my main hdd
[11:20] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: i dont follow
[11:21] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: what do you mean?
[11:21] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, I ran what you told me and now the file browser shows 4 mounts inside my main HDD, 2x /dev and 2x /pts
[11:21] <kanupatar> hi guys, May I get a distro with wayland only supported? and no X11? I need to install it into my laptop.
[11:22] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: main hdd you mean your decrypted installation?
[11:22] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: that command should bind mount your /dev from the live usb to the empty /dev dir in your decrypted installation, so we can install new kernels if we need to
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> !wayland | kanupatar
[11:23] <kanupatar> MonkeyDust: I know man. May I get a distro with waylad only?
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> kanupatar ask in ##linux or so, this is ubuntu only
[11:24] <kanupatar> MonkeyDust: okay
[11:24] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: if you typed the command and it didn't return anything it means it went through, i have no idea about you saying you have 2 mounts of /dev in your main hdd
[11:26] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, I might've gotten confused or explained myself wrong, here's a picture, I think we achieved what was supposed :) : http://snag.gy/lvedy.jpg
[11:26] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: ok, cool
[11:27] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: type sudo chroot /media/ubuntu.....
[11:27] <kanupatar> MonkeyDust: ubuntu does not support wayland?
[11:27] <kuba7447> is there a way to remove the sample content from /usr ???
[11:27] <crocket> ubuntu installation tests my patience.
[11:27] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, huh, I can't launch a terminal now
[11:27] <jishjish> hi all. Is there a tool I can use to monitor fan speed and CPU temperature and find out whatever it is that causes the fan to go spinning full speed non stop. Sometimes it happens after a short time and just doesn;'t stop. Other times it just stops randomly.
[11:28] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, There was an error creating the child process for this terminal
[11:28] <jishjish> maybe it's a process or a program on startup maybe it's something else.I have a 8510w compaq
[11:28] <EriC^^> jishjish: psensor is a nice program for monitoring temps
[11:29] <jishjish> for instance right now the fan is not spinning much at all and is not noisy. a moment ago it was full on. not stopping. I
[11:29] <EriC^^> jishjish: open a terminal and keep a running instance of htop or top
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> kanupatar read everything there is to know on the link ubottu gave you
[11:29] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: odd
[11:30] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: try a different terminal
[11:30] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, I'll restart the liveusb instance and be right back.
[11:30] <EriC^^> xterm or something
[11:30] <jishjish> EriC^^: will it help me find out what is causing it, i.e. log temps in conjunction with runing processes. Can they be logged? I.e. how else can I work out which ones are running on startup. I think one of those is causing it to go nuts.
[11:30] <kuba7447> how do i delete the sample content , do i need root access?
[11:31] <EriC^^> jishjish: it should be pretty obvious, when it heats up check htop and see if anything unusual is there
[11:31] <shome> htop is pretty
[11:32] <jishjish> EriC^^: but how can I do that as the login manager starts up (at that point I haven't logged in and can't run anything
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> kuba7447 yes, for everything outside /home, you need root access
[11:32] <kuba7447> how do i gain root access?
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> kuba7447 with sudo
[11:33] <kuba7447> but i want to remove the folder, do i type something like sudo -rm /usr/share/sample ?
[11:34] <EriC^^> jishjish: log in, and check it, whatever is making it hot before logging in would show up too
[11:34] <jishjish> so i'm loking for the process with the highest ram/cpu -- this would be what's causing the fan?
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> kuba7447 rm -r to remove a folder
[11:35] <kuba7447> thanks, MonkeyDust
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> kuba7447 careful, know what you're doing
[11:35] <EriC^^> yeah look for something that's using up the cpu
[11:35] <kuba7447> ok...
[11:36] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, Ok I`m back with a fresh live instance, can you resend that for loop please?
[11:37] <EriC^^> ok, type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /media/ubuntu.../hashhere$i; done
[11:37] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: also mount /dev/sda1 to /media/ubuntu/..../boot
[11:37] <tomhardy> hey guys i created a smb share and i get NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME when i try to connect to it
[11:38] <tomhardy> any idea how i can debug this?
[11:38] <tomhardy> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/bd171d6b066b67ce5401 << that's at the bottom of my conf file
[11:39] <bdhy> hi all
[11:39] <kuba7447> ok, i deleted the folder but the song is still on my play list...
[11:39] <tomhardy> smbclient //10.0.1.10/main -U tomhardy << is the command i used to connect
[11:39] <tomhardy> i've googled n googled.. but i'm not able tow ork out what this error actually means
[11:40] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, ok, both mounts are done
[11:40] <pranali_> hiii
[11:40] <moses> anyone have an nvidia card?
[11:40] <moses> do i need to install the nvidia driver ?
[11:41] <moses> or does 14.04 already do it for me?
[11:42] <stevenm> Can anyone here who is a dropbox user - tell me... does the dropbox icon show up in your notification area.... or as an application indicator ?!
[11:42] <stevenm> obviously you need to be able to tell the difference :S
[11:42] <ctz`recover> &j #lightdm
[11:42] <ctz`recover> woops, sorry
[11:44] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: ok, type sudo chroot /media/ubuntu...
[11:44] <ctz`recover> im here
[11:44] <jishjish> EriC^^: thanks for psensor, is there a graphical one for monitoring fan speeds as well?
[11:45] <EriC^^> jishjish: i don't know one
[11:45] <jishjish> EriC^^: no problem thanks
[11:45] <EriC^^> jishjish: if you need to monitor before logging in to x you could use a tty btw
[11:46] <pranali_> how to connect freenode in mob.Androirc app
[11:46] <jishjish> ah yes alt + f4 +ctrl I think that's a great idea
[11:46] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: ok type ls -l /boot | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:46] <EriC^^> jishjish: in the terminal if you type sensors alone it'll tell you the temp
[11:47] <EriC^^> watch -n1 sensors to monitor it
[11:47] <Johnny_Linux> jishjish gkrellm
[11:47] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, I have initrd.img.-3.16.0-36-generic and then 3.19.0.17/18/20
[11:48] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, also there are matching abi, config, System.map and vmlinuz files
[11:48] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: ok, did you fresh install 15.04 or upgrade to it?
[11:48] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, I upgraded from 14.10 and had to manually clean /boot because my sysadm was not around and it didnt have enough free space for the upgrade
[11:49] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: ok, try booting the pc while holding shift, when you get grub go to advanced > choose 3.19.0-20
[11:49] <Axeon> ...
[11:49] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: type exit first, then reboot the pc
[11:50] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, when I hold shift I get Dell's boot selector screen, am I supposed to hold shift before or after inserting the HDD passphrase?
[11:50] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: before
[11:51] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, ok then, I'll try again, brb.
[11:52] <macboy> sup guys
[11:52] <martindouglas> hey macboy
[11:53] <macboy> sup bro
[11:55] <mo0p> Hello, I am trying to read an NFC card, i installed drivers for the reader (acr122U) and lsusb shows the device there
[11:56] <kuba7447> macboy? are you using ubuntu on a mac?
[11:56] <mo0p> however ncf-list shows "NO NFC DEVICE DETECTED"
[11:56] <mo0p> can anyone assist ?
[11:59] <mo0p> Hello, I am trying to read an NFC card, i installed drivers for the reader (acr122U) and lsusb shows the device there.. however nfc-list shows "no nfc device found"
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> mo0p is that for a smart phone or tablet?
[12:03] <mo0p> MonkeyDust, its a USB nfc reader for MiFare card.
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> mo0p how is that ubuntu related?
[12:04] <mo0p> MonkeyDust, it works on my arch install with same drivers, something else mst be required on Ubuntu..cant seem to figure out what
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> mo0p what is 'it'? start from the beginning, what brings you here
[12:05] <mo0p> In short i am having issues with an nfc reader and the issue seems to be specific to Ubuntu 14.04.
[12:06] <mo0p> was wondering if any one else had any issues with nfc readers on ubuntu and if so, what was resolution. The reader is detected in lsusb after installing the drivers for the reader. but when i nfc-list when a card is placed on the reader nothing is detected.
[12:07] <mo0p> on my Arch linux install, same drivers and tools it is detected. but i use Ubuntu as my main pc and would like it to work over here.
[12:07] <mo0p> if this is not the place to discuss this, thats cool. I will poke around more on the weekend when i have more time jus tthought this would be a good place to start.
[12:09] <mo0p> Also.. dmesg has output for the device .. it is fully detected and drivers are loaded
[12:10] <brad__> i just installed 14.04 and now want to install windows 7, but it wont boot from cd. What do I do?
[12:11] <kuba7447> brad__, why do you want to install windows?
[12:11] <mo0p> Could try to intrupt boot and select to boot from disk? sometimes an F key will present the user with a boot device selection
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> brad__ better ask in ##windows, this is the ubuntu channel
[12:12] <brad__> I always run ubuntu, but want the windows on there so I can use my cad program
[12:12] <kuba7447> brad__ , do u want to dual-boot ?
[12:12] <brad__> yes
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> brad__ windows will ruin grub and you'll have to repair it
[12:13] <mo0p> if you install windows first then ubuntu .. grub will work its magic too
[12:13] <kuba7447> you can use windows in virtual machine
[12:13] <mo0p> also VM yes
[12:13] <mo0p> anyway... monkeydust... wrong drivers are being loaded... compared dmesg from working linux distro vs ubuntu ... and different drivers are being used
[12:13] <brad__> im unfamiliar with VM
[12:13] <mo0p> thx
[12:13] <kuba7447> do u have another hdd that u can install windows on?
[12:13] <mo0p> brad install windows first then ubuntu and select to install along side windows
[12:14] <brad__> mo0p - I am trying to do that. But ubuntu is already installed and it doesn't allow me to boot from the windows disk when inserted
[12:15] <brad__> got to do some work now...brb
[12:15] <kuba7447> did u encrypted ubuntu when installing?
[12:15] <kuba7447> i had the same problem when i encrypted linux mint
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> mo0p if you don't get an answer here, there are some 20 people in #linux-nfc
[12:15] <mo0p> brad__ google your laptop manufacture and how to select boot device on start up.. usually an F key will do this for you .. or just enter bios and adjust to book from disk before hdd
[12:15] <kuba7447> *boot
[12:16] <mo0p> MoneyDust Thanks! i will go over there.. but i think i found the issue when compareing dmesg output after plugging in the nfc reader
[12:18] <kuba7447> bye
[12:21] <lunagirl> hi
[12:22] <lunagirl> i upgraded the kernel and when i did autoremove on the old it complained about vmlinuz link being broken
[12:22] <lunagirl> is this some leftover from older framework?
[12:28] <rapper97> I installed Ubuntu with the bootloader on the /efi partition as the help wiki told me, but when I restart Windows Boot Loader does not start.
[12:28] <rapper97> Other tutorials tell me to use dd and bcdedit but that is for MBR not UEFI? so I am confused.
[12:34] <muresan> Has any of you tried to open c++ .sln projects with monodevelop?
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> muresan this is ubuntu support, try ##programming or so
[12:35] <muresan> alright
[12:37] <EriC^^> rapper97: you say windows boot loader does not start?
[12:38] <rapper97> That is correct - I was lead to believe it would recognize it and start automagically but that is not the case.
[12:38] <rapper97> It just boots straight into Windows after the Linux instal.
[12:38] <EriC^^> rapper97: ok, so you mean the windows boot loader does start
[12:38] <Guest4283> I could'nt get you!!
[12:38] <EriC^^> the ubuntu boot loader doesn't
[12:39] <Guest4283> *couldn't
[12:39] <mstc_> dfafhja
[12:39] <rapper97> Well
[12:39] <mstc_> hi guies you here
[12:40] <rapper97> Windows boots, but the big friendly screen that says "Windows Boot Loader" and presents me options does not appear.
[12:40] <EriC^^> rapper97: it's probably cause of your bios being hardcoded to boot only the windows boot loader
[12:40] <rapper97> That is the behaviour I would like.
[12:40] <Guest4283> Heyy everyone. Can anyone help me with the GParted Partition Editor
[12:40] <EriC^^> rapper97: is this a wubi install?
[12:40] <rapper97> No.
[12:40] <EriC^^> nevermind
[12:41] <EriC^^> rapper97: ok, i don't know about the windows boot loader but i might be able to get ubuntu to boot instead of the windows boot loader, and you can choose to boot ubuntu or windows from there
[12:41] <rapper97> No, I would rather use the Windows Boot Loader, not GRUB.
[12:42] <EriC^^> rapper97: ok, /join ##windows
[12:42] <rapper97> Yes :)
[12:42] <rapper97> tnx
[12:43] <EriC^^> np
[12:44] <Guest4283> I have got two partitions on the external disk I wanna move the data of one partition to the other and delete it. I need assistance ofr doing it using GParted GParted Partition Editor.
[12:44] <Guest4283> *for
[12:46] <Guest4283> I already have got four primary partitions on the partition that I wanna keep.
[12:47] <auronandace> Guest4283: you mount both partitions then use a file manager to copy what you want over, then you use gparted to delete the partition you want to get rid of
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> Guest4283 four is the highest number of primary partitions
[12:47] <Guest4283> I know
[12:49] <mhammons> hi
[12:49] <scatterp> can anyone help me with this ? -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 28G Jun 11 15:49 modules.ccwmap
[12:50] <mhammons> i was wondering if there was a reason the xz utility in ubuntu has its threading option disabled?
[12:51] <Guest4283> I'm unable to copy the data on the first partition.
[12:52] <Guest4283> On opening any folder it shows 'You have no permissions to read data on *whatever* folder'
[12:53] <Guest4283> Actually I have got two versions of ubuntu one on each partition.
[12:55] <Guest4283> Data that belongs to the other version cannot be copied directly from the present running. So I need assistance doing it with GParted Partition Editor.
[12:55] * scatterp listens to the beatles "Help!"
[12:57] <Chetic> How do I cat a multiline file to a variable in gnu make xor find a gnu make irc channel?
[13:01] <Guest4283> How to copy data to an allocated partition with GParted Partiton Editor??
[13:02] <scatterp> Guest4283 i dont think you can you might need to use dd and create a drive image
[13:02] <Guest4283> *without deleting it.
[13:02] <st_d3vil> cp or dd?
[13:03] <Guest4283> dd?
[13:04] <stevenm> Can anyone here who is a dropbox user - tell me... does the dropbox icon show up in your notification area.... or as an application indicator ?!
[13:04] <dididodo> hi ... what tools are there in order to let a peer directly upload a file to my computer? (background: i urgently need a document but dont want it to be sent via email)
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> dididodo dropbox, box and others
[13:05] <dididodo> MonkeyDust, thank you, i'll check them out
[13:06] <stevenm> i'd hardly call dropbox "direct"
[13:06] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, you still here_
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> dididodo tonido is more direct http://www.tonido.com/
[13:07] <mo0p> scp ! lol
[13:07] <dididodo> MonkeyDust, thats a filehosting service, not what I'm looking for
[13:07] <dididodo> ok
[13:07] <mo0p> port forward tcp\22 to your pc ;) and allow him to scp a file over ..
[13:07] <Guest4283> Would cloning work in this case?\
[13:08] <stevenm> dididodo, this 'peer' of yours? is he/she on your network? if so just right click a folder you want to share and share it
[13:09] <ctz`recover> Hello guys, is it possible to run a system update and to reset grub on my HDD if I-m running from a liveusb right now_
[13:09] <dididodo> stevenm, the 'peer' is my dad, it's not about networking. i just want him to upload once a document needed. i thought more about ftp or someting ...
[13:10] <dididodo> stevenm, we are not on the same network
[13:10] <stevenm> dididodo, ok well the easiest thing do is probably get your dad to download filezilla
[13:10] <dididodo> stevenm, ok
[13:11] <stevenm> dididodo, then if your PC has openssh-server installed... he can use SFTP on filezilla to send you the file
[13:11] <k1l> dididodo: when you start a ssh-server the other user can use scp or sftp to upload a file to your system
[13:11] <stevenm> you'll need to forward port 22 to your PC though from your touer
[13:11] <stevenm> *router
[13:11] <thebrownpup> guys, I read about checkinstall just now that it makes .deb files from the source file given
[13:11] <thebrownpup> the question is
[13:11] <IceBot3000> I suggest writing a new file exchange protocol, then implementing a server in C and sending your dad the client software via USB stick in the post
[13:11] <hrolf> Hi #ubuntu.
[13:11] <hrolf> I'm on Ubuntu and whenever I do sudo apt-get install <something> I get this error -> "E: The package virtualbox-4.3 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it."
[13:12] <vormux> dididodo: syncthing
[13:12] <thebrownpup> does the generated .deb file contain the supporting libraries along with it, so that I can install it in another linux machine?
[13:12] <k1l> hrolf: can you paste all the output into a pastebin?
[13:12] <EriC^^> hrolf: try sudo apt-get -f install
[13:12] <k1l> !paste | hrolf
[13:12] <workerbeetwo> hey. How can I avoid using the mouse in terminal just to copy lines to the clipbaord out of the lines on the stdout screen?
[13:12] <ctz`recover> hey EriC^^ sorry for taking so long but I couldn-t for my life to boot to recovery
[13:12] <dididodo> stevenm, thats more like it ... what ubuntu package do you recommend? i dont want to spend hours reading manuals for installing the ssh-server...
[13:13] <hrolf> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11696175/
[13:13] <stevenm> dididodo, if you install 'ssh' or 'openssh-server' it'll install the same thing
[13:13] <stevenm> dididodo, only the first one 'ssh' will also install the client - which your system will already have anyway
[13:13] <stevenm> no config is needed
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> dididodo sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[13:13] <stevenm> it'll start up straight away
[13:13] <vormux> dididodo: syncthing http://syncthing.net
[13:13] <thebrownpup> does it generate .deb file from the source file or it links the libraries with it too?
[13:14] <EriC^^> workerbeetwo: command | xsel
[13:14] <EriC^^> maybe
[13:14] <dididodo> stevenm, MonkeyDust,vormux ... thanks
[13:14] <k1l> hrolf: what ubuntu version are you on exactly? "lsb_release -d" will tell you
[13:14] <workerbeetwo> EriC^^: I dont mean jsut to pipe a commands output to somewhere.
[13:15] <thebrownpup> guys, I read about checkinstall just now that it makes .deb files from the source file given. The question is, does the generated .deb file contain the supporting libraries along with it, so that I can install it in another linux machine?
[13:15] <hrolf> k1l: Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[13:15] <stevenm> dididodo, your dad will need to connect to your external IP (see www.canihazip.com) using FileZilla and using SFTP... the username/password - best to use your own (the one you login with every day) - that way he'll be putting the file into the area you see in your home directory
[13:15] <EriC^^> workerbeetwo: it will pipe it to the clipboard
[13:15] <stevenm> dididodo, either that or make him a user on your PC for him to log in over SSH with
[13:15] <workerbeetwo> EriC^^: I understand your suggestion. but its not what I want.
[13:15] <EriC^^> workerbeetwo: command | xsel , then pressing shift+insert or middle mouse will paste the output
[13:15] <EriC^^> workerbeetwo: what do you want?
[13:15] <k1l> hrolf: so did you add a PPA for virtualbox or where did it come from?
[13:16] <workerbeetwo> EriC^^: think of walking the history of the last commands by using the arrow keys, but it should be walking the lines on the screen that are already processed.
[13:16] <dididodo> stevenm, yes, i got it ... make him a guest user on my box thats a good idea
[13:16] <k1l> hrolf: well. i would suggest to run a "sudo apt-get update" and then see if that error is still there.
[13:17] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, is there any other approach I could try? apparently rebooting into recovery is not an option.
[13:17] <stevenm> so for the last time - does *ANYONE* have dropbox installed on their ubuntu here!? if so! is the icon you've got in the corner.... a) in your notification area or b) an application indicator
[13:17] <hrolf> k1l: I don't exactly remember. I had VirtualBox installed few years earlier :)
[13:17] <hrolf> k1l: Okay let me try.
[13:17] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: not recovery, the older kernels
[13:17] <workerbeetwo> EriC^^: and then a way to copy a line to the clipboard.
[13:17] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, my motherboard as shift holding options which I cant turn off, so I cant trigger the advanced boot options on ubuntu to allow me to select an older ekrnel
[13:18] <ctz`recover> s/as/has
[13:18] <stevenm> dididodo, right... so when he uploads his files will be in /home/dad/files and you'll need to nagivate from /home/yourself/ to his area - might need to add yourself to his group so you can view his files... this command will do that..... sudo usermod -a -G dad $USER (replace where it says dad)
[13:18] <EriC^^> ctz`recover: chroot like we did before and edit /etc/default/grub to boot an older one
[13:18] <EriC^^> then update-grub
[13:18] <k1l> hrolf: if that error is still there try: "sudo apt-get remove virtualbox-4.3". if that doesnt help we need to try the hard method afterwards
[13:18] <dididodo> stevenm, cool ...thx
[13:19] <EriC^^> workerbeetwo: oh, no idea
[13:19] <dididodo> stevenm, i think i can work this out
[13:20] <ctz`recover> EriC^^, just to review, mount /dev/sda1 into the the mountedhdd/boot
[13:20] <ctz`recover> where can I check logs for these channels? i dont wanna keep bothering for command repastes
[13:20] <EriC^^> workerbeetwo: you could grep for the line if you knew it
[13:21] <workerbeetwo> EriC^^: because stdout is on a file?
[13:21] <hrolf> k1l: Still there. Let me try removing VirtualBox then.
[13:21] <workerbeetwo> is it logged/loggable?
[13:21] <SchrodingersScat> !logs | ctz`recover
[13:21] <hrolf> k1l: Hey, even removing gives same error :)
[13:22] <hrolf> k1l: What's the hard method?
[13:22] <k1l> hrolf: ok, try this: sudo dpkg -P --force-remove-reinstreq virtualbox-4.3
[13:22] <hrolf> k1l: Now fine.
[13:23] <EriC^^> workerbeetwo: you could send stdout where ever you want and then get the line you want some how
[13:23] <hrolf> I don't know what went wrong with VirtualBox. It was working fine.
[13:23] <hrolf> k1l: Anyways, I don't have any immediate need for it now. :)
[13:23] <hrolf> k1l: Thanks.
[13:23] <k1l> hrolf: ok.
[13:23] <EriC^^> workerbeetwo: if you already know what it has you could do command | grep something | xsel
[13:23] <vetwangcn> are you ok? junlie
[13:23] <workerbeetwo> EriC^^: have yo got an idea hwo to autolog stdout ?
[13:24] <workerbeetwo> EriC^^: forget about the current command way. just anything on stdout is object of interest here.
[13:25] <HoloIRCUser> How do i use amd driver in ubuntu
[13:25] <EriC^^> workerbeetwo: command > /stdout.log 2>&1
[13:26] <EriC^^> that will also redirect stderr
[13:26] <k1l> HoloIRCUser: if your card is still supported by amd install the fglrx
[13:26] <EriC^^> workerbeetwo: command > /stdout.log 2> /stderr.log
[13:26] <workerbeetwo> EriC^^: you are telling me how I can pass a commands output to a file. that is not at all what I what. :)
[13:26] <HoloIRCUser> Yes but its not configured in ubuntu
[13:27] <HoloIRCUser> I installed it so many time
[13:27] <workerbeetwo> EriC^^: anything that is on screen and on stdout shoudl be written to a file, which can be searched later.
[13:27] <EriC^^> workerbeetwo: ok, what do you mean by autologging stdout?
[13:27] <stevenm> thebrownpup, i can't speak with any authority as I've never used checkinstall. But after reading up about it. The .deb package will *only* contain the files created/modified by the 'make install' script that comes with your source
[13:27] <EriC^^> workerbeetwo: ok, script /path/to/log
[13:27] <HoloIRCUser> Iam using amd 7730M gpu
[13:27] <EriC^^> then when you're done type exit
[13:27] <HoloIRCUser> Any help ??
[13:28] <stevenm> thebrownpup, if you've had to install dependencies prior to running ./configure - or had to install dependencies after it was installed to make it run - then no these wouldn't be in that .deb
[13:28] <HoloIRCUser> In dell inspiron 15R 7520 SE
[13:28] <workerbeetwo> EriC^^: script?
[13:28] <EriC^^> workerbeetwo: yeah, it's a command
[13:28] <EriC^^> it will log the whole session
[13:28] <HoloIRCUser> Please help for installation of amd gpu driver in laptop
[13:28] <k1l> !details | HoloIRCUser
[13:29] <k1l> HoloIRCUser: what is the exact issue?
[13:29] <workerbeetwo> EriC^^: ah ok. I thought thats a generic expression. this looks good.
[13:29] <HoloIRCUser> Everytime i install amd driver and restart my system i see menu
[13:29] <workerbeetwo> perhaps the bash guys can tell me more abotu reading that logfiel then.
[13:29] <HoloIRCUser> Restart or restore
[13:29] <k1l> HoloIRCUser: which ubuntu is it exactly?
[13:30] <EriC^^> workerbeetwo: maybe, it's not a bash built-in though
[13:30] <workerbeetwo> EriC^^: but there is a similar function.
[13:30] <HoloIRCUser> I tried in 12.04 12.10 13.04 13.10
[13:30] <EriC^^> workerbeetwo: which function?
[13:30] <k1l> HoloIRCUser: 12.10, 13.04,13.10 are not supported anyway. what about 14.04?
[13:31] <EriC^^> workerbeetwo: nevermind, i guess you mean it's useful for writing scripts
[13:31] <k1l> HoloIRCUser: and what ubuntu are you running now exactly?
[13:31] <HoloIRCUser> 12.04 is still supported till 2017
[13:31] <wsdjeg> 你好
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[13:31] <HoloIRCUser> Rightnow iam not running ubuntu
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Hello all
[13:31] <k1l> HoloIRCUser: <k1l> HoloIRCUser: 12.10, 13.04,13.10 are not supported anyway. <<< where did i mention 12.04??
[13:32] <wsdjeg> 目前在用irssi
[13:32] <wsdjeg> 够赞的聊天室
[13:32] <k1l> wsdjeg: this channel is english only
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> HoloIRCUser so now you're on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[13:32] <wsdjeg> ubuntu 15-4
[13:33] <workerbeetwo> EriC^^: no. it improves my workflow.
[13:33] <wsdjeg> i use the irssi tu join the irc
[13:33] <dawnson> Jordan_U: it worked btw :)
[13:34] <k1l> HoloIRCUser: i see issues with 13.04 and 13.10 and that its solution is 1) to update the bios and 2) try 14.04
[13:36] <EriC^^> workerbeetwo: k
[13:40] <HoloIRCUser> Yes i updated my bios to latest version but no luck
[13:40] <k1l> HoloIRCUser: and 14.04?
[13:41] <wangshidong> 15-3
[13:41] <wangshidong> 15.04
[13:41] <HoloIRCUser> Today iam going to install ubuntu 14.04 any other proper procedure to install amd driver
[13:42] <wangshidong> new version ubuntu need UEFI boot
[13:42] <HoloIRCUser> With intel 4000hd
[13:42] <k1l> HoloIRCUser: that seems to be a hybrid card. and amd just supports that cards on linux since a short time. so please try 14.04
[13:43] <HoloIRCUser> Okk
[13:43] <HoloIRCUser> I try it but any proper way to installhybrid drivers
[13:43] <wangshidong> why don't u use 15.04
[13:43] <HoloIRCUser> For intel 4000HD and AMD 7730M
[13:44] <k1l> HoloIRCUser: yes, boot the ubuntu, then install fglrx from the repo
[13:44] <chotaz`w> EriC^^, I tried a very manual but that ended up working solution, care to tell me where to go next?
[13:45] <wangshidong> i use the unetbootin
[13:45] <chotaz`w> EriC^^, without being able to chroot into my hdd or even access the recovery menu, I edited /boot/grub/grub.cfg manually and changed the default kernel loaded from 3.19.0.20 to 3.19.0.17, saved the file and rebooted
[13:45] <troop> hello, i have created lamp stack on ubuntu, then installed vsftpd. now i am developing test project from remote but everytime i created a php file it needs to change permissions for running.. how can i fix this situaton?
[13:45] <troop> i am connected via root user
[13:46] <chotaz`w> EriC^^, that led to being presented with the recovery options by default so I choose to load an older kernel and apparently I managed to boot now
[13:46] <wangshidong> change to 777
[13:46] <TheBard> if I can see a network drive in the GUI, how can I navigate to it from the terminal?
[13:46] <troop> wangshidong everytime i change to 755
[13:46] <wangshidong> oh sorry
[13:47] <troop> i just want to all new files created with 755
[13:47] <wangshidong> how many chinese
[13:48] <cfhowlett> !cn } wangshidong,
[13:48] <cfhowlett> !cn | wangshidong,
[13:48] <wangshidong> i know
[13:49] <Guest____> Why can't I resize the partition that contains root while I've got two partitions for separate OSs.
[13:49] <wangshidong> but ubuntu-cn has no people
[13:49] <wangshidong> only 21
[13:49] <cfhowlett> !kylin | wangshidong
[13:49] <wangshidong> i know
[13:50] <wangshidong> but i like ubuntu
[13:50] <wangshidong> not ubuntukylin
[13:52] <wangshidong> how to hide the message about the people who joined in or quit
[13:52] <Guest____> Help me in creating a drive image.
[13:52] <Pici> !quietirc | wangshidong
[13:52] <wangshidong> !quietirc
[13:52] <nexia> wangshidong: what IRC client are you using
[13:53] <wangshidong> irssi
[13:54] <Guest____> Help me in creating a drive image.
[13:54] <wangshidong> use the unetbootin
[13:54] <Guest____> whats that?
[13:54] <wangshidong> creating an useboot
[13:54] <wangshidong> a soft
[13:55] <Guest____> can you help me with dd
[13:55] <wangshidong> sorry i can't
[13:56] <wangshidong> you can ask baidu
[13:56] <Guest____> who's baidu?
[13:56] <reisio> Guest____: /nick somethingelse
[13:56] <reisio> baidu is a search engine
[13:56] <wangshidong> baidu.com
[13:56] <wangshidong> like google
[13:56] <cfhowlett> only inChina
[13:56] <Guest____> :-P
[13:57] <arole> hi
[13:58] <wangshidong> what IRC client are you using?
[13:58] <Guest____> me?
[13:58] <wangshidong> ye
[13:58] <Guest____> freenode
[13:58] <wangshidong> why there is no irc
[13:58] <wangshidong> in the empaty
[13:59] <IceBot3000> Freenode is the server, not the client. you probably mean qwebirc
[13:59] <Guest____> :-P
[13:59] <wangshidong> o o
[13:59] <Guest____> ya
[13:59] <Guest____> qwebirc
[14:00] <wangshidong> i want get a teacher
[14:00] <wangshidong> who can help me
[14:00] <cfhowlett> wangshidong, teacher? teaching what??
[14:01] <wangshidong> is there anyone use the ubuntu 15.04
[14:01] <reisio> wangshidong: someone, sure
[14:01] <wangshidong> anything like friends
[14:01] <cfhowlett> wangshidong, #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:02] <Guest____> Ok can you just tell me how to copy data from one partition to the other?
[14:02] <wangshidong> tonight i only want to chat
[14:02] <dasoren> Question: I have been getting an error from curl. /usr/bin/curl: /usr/local/lib/libcurl.so.4: no version information available (required by /usr/bin/curl), more info here https://serverfault.com/questions/696631/libcurl-so-4-no-version-information-available
[14:02] <cfhowlett> wangshidong, this is NOT a chat channel. for general chat, go to the other channel.
[14:03] <wangshidong> sorry
[14:03] <wangshidong> is there anyone use the ubuntu 15.04
[14:03] <wangshidong> why the empathy has no IRC
[14:04] <wangshidong> i has istall the widget
[14:04] <Guest____> I've got two linux versions on each partition and want to copy the data of one version to the other while I'm logging in from destination OS. Please help its urgent!
[14:04] <Pici> wangshidong: empathy is a poor IRC client. If you really really want to use IRC in empathy, you'll need to install the telepathy-idle package.
[14:05] <reisio> Guest____: /nick urgentman
[14:05] <wangshidong> i has installed
[14:05] <reisio> dasoren: how'd you install curl?
[14:05] <Pici> Guest____: You want to copy a partition over the partition that you are currently using?
[14:05] <dasoren> apt-get install
[14:05] <wangshidong> but i cant see the IRC in the empathy
[14:05] <Guest____> yeah
[14:05] <wangshidong> yes
[14:06] <Pici> wangshidong: I believe that you'll need to add a new account in empathy for that.
[14:06] <wangshidong> sudo apt-get install
[14:06] <dasoren> sudo su, apt-get install
[14:06] <Pici> Guest____: You shouldn't, and can't, overwrite a partition that is in use.
[14:06] <wangshidong> i has use ubuntu for five years
[14:07] <wangshidong> i know how tu install the widget
[14:08] <wangshidong> and the 15.04 has a bug about the java
[14:08] <Guest____> So how can I backup the data on that partition.
[14:09] <Guest____> I cant access the data on that partition the data . Any other way?
[14:09] <Pici> Guest____: Use a live-cd or similar.
[14:10] <wangshidong> bye good night
[14:11] <Guest____> Use a live cd for what?
[14:11] <Guest____> It can be used to reinstall the system but that would create another partition!
[14:12] <Guest____> Or you mean something else?
[14:16] <Guest____> Another thing if I remove the hard drive and plug into a Windows system that is available to me in another system it is unable to read the contents in that partition.
[14:16] <pbx> somehow i messed up notifications on my 14.04 unity setup. they used to appear in the upper right, nicely styled. now they are small pale-blue rectangles in the upper left. and the volume-change indicator doesn't appear at all. how might i investigate/fix?
[14:16] <Pici> Guest____: You don't need to run the installer process from the live CD, just open the terminal and do your thing.
[14:17] <temoc> HOLA
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> pbx try this: system settings > displays > scale for menu
[14:18] <Johnny_Linux> ohluh
[14:18] <temoc> quiero instalar spotify y no e podido
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> !es
[14:25] <klez> hello everyone
[14:25] <polyphagia> hi klez
[14:26] <pbx> MonkeyDust, interesting, thanks. that didn't fix it unfortunately. i think installing i3 may have been the cause of this, though AFAICT i have now removed it
[14:28] <Pinkamena_D> I have had a custom keyboard shortcut set up for Ctrl+Alt+Super+D which has been working fine for months, and now it will not. It works if I assign it to another set of keys, like Ctrl+Alt+4, but re assigning it back to the original does not work.
[14:28] <Pinkamena_D> I have not installed anything new that I am aware of, and each of these keys seem to work correctly on their own.
[14:28] <Pinkamena_D> Any idea how to fix this?
[14:31] <Pinkamena_D> Even if I just move the shortcut to Ctrl+Alt+Super+A or some other letter then it works, just not D
[14:31] <Pinkamena_D> but the D key types fine
[14:37] <wsdjeg> hello
[14:38] <k1mmyyy> hey guys i'm going crazy here
[14:38] <Pinkamen1_D> cool
[14:38] <k1mmyyy> i have an sd card, but it won't let me delete the files from it
[14:39] <Pinkamen1_D> did you flip the little plastic part on the side to 'lock' possibly?
[14:39] <k1mmyyy> nope
[14:39] <Pinkamen1_D> I had mine mounted as a read-only filesystem somehow recently
[14:39] <k1mmyyy> i have an identical one that *is* working, and when i do it with that one, i can first delete the files in the file browser, and then they go to this hidden .Trash folder (but still take up space on the card), but i can get rid of them from there by doing rm /media/blablablah/*
[14:39] <kuba7447> what card reader are you using?
[14:40] <Pinkamen1_D> If you want to perma delete just use Shift+Del
[14:40] <k1mmyyy> but with this one that's not working, when i try the rm /location one, it says "can't remove, read only file system"
[14:40] <k1mmyyy> hmm thanks i'll keep that in mind
[14:40] <tsoutseki> i know this is not a homework helping channel, but i need some help with C coding. someone msg me if you are eager to help (it is an easy thing). thanks
[14:40] <rypervenche> k1mmyyy: what happens if you try to touch a nee file on the SD card? what output do you get?
[14:40] <k1mmyyy> they have the same exact output of sudo fdisk -l and then ls -l /dev/theirlocation
[14:40] <cfhowlett> tsoutseki, not a homework site and not even the right channel. ask ##c
[14:40] <k1mmyyy> rypervenche, lemme check
[14:41] <lno1> I'm trying to collect two environment variables from a curl command. I want both the HTTP code as well as the actual response content.
[14:41] <cfhowlett> tsoutseki, or #c++
[14:41] <Pinkamen1_D> I got that filesystem issue with mine recently. I had a built in laptop card reader and an expresscard reader. When I moved the card from the build in to the express then it started working.
[14:41] <k1mmyyy> rypervenche, cannot touch, read only file system
[14:41] <k1mmyyy> i've also added myself to the disk group
[14:41] <Pinkamen1_D> Also functionality returned on both after I restarted
[14:41] <k1mmyyy> since that's what group it says in fdisk -l
[14:42] <k1mmyyy> Pinkamen1_D, it is also a built in SD card reader
[14:42] <michaliskasapas> hi
[14:42] <k1mmyyy> i'm just confused since the working one and non working one have the same filesystem, same group, same owner, same permissions
[14:42] <k1mmyyy> what's different?
[14:42] <Pinkamen1_D> You can try to manually umount it and mount -rw but when I tried that it still gave some error that it would not mount because it was explicitly read-only or something
[14:42] <Pinkamen1_D> My best guess for this is that the plastic lock thing it a bit glitchy but I could be midtaken.
[14:43] <michaliskasapas> sup guys!!!!!!!!!1
[14:43] <michaliskasapas> :)
[14:43] <k1mmyyy> i tried remounting it using a command online, it didn't give an error but still didn't work
[14:43] <cfhowlett> michaliskasapas, not a social channel. ask your ubuntu questions
[14:43] <k1mmyyy> hm, lemme try fiddling with it i guess...
[14:43] <Pinkamen1_D> did you add the -rw stitch to the mount command?
[14:43] <michaliskasapas> e??
[14:43] <Pinkamen1_D> switch*
[14:44] <k1mmyyy> Pinkamen1_D, i did sudo mount -o remount,rw /media/mydisklocation
[14:44] <k1mmyyy> can't i just like, sudo chmod stuff
[14:45] <Pinkamen1_D> I guess that translates to about the same
[14:45] <michaliskasapas> i love ubuntu!
[14:45] <Pinkamen1_D> no, because the filesystem being readonly changes you from touching any bits including the ownership ones
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> michaliskasapas thank you for sharing your deepest feelings with us, but stick to ubuntu questions
[14:45] <k1mmyyy> Pinkamen1_D, even if i use my root account?
[14:45] <michaliskasapas> ok
[14:45] <michaliskasapas> sr
[14:46] <michaliskasapas> i have
[14:46] <gogis> hey guys
[14:46] <Pinkamen1_D> I believe so. I have had this with network mounted filesystems that were rw, the local root still got permission denied.
[14:46] <michaliskasapas> i try to put the ubuntu in old pc but the say /tmp not work!
[14:46] <k1l> michaliskasapas: we have #ubuntu-offtopic for chat, because we try to keep this channel cllear for support and to help people with ubuntu issues
[14:46] <k1mmyyy> Pinkamen1_D, you appear to be correct
[14:46] <k1mmyyy> Pinkamen1_D, just tried it, said read only for all the files/folders...
[14:46] <k1mmyyy> what the hell can i do?
[14:47] <Pinkamen1_D> do you have any other SD readers handy?
[14:47] <michaliskasapas> plz help me
[14:47] <michaliskasapas> :(
[14:47] <cfhowlett> michaliskasapas, old PC? use lubuntu
[14:47] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu
[14:47] <k1l> michaliskasapas: did you try lubuntu?
[14:47] <k1mmyyy> Pinkamen1_D, hmm, not here i think...
[14:47] <michaliskasapas> i know man
[14:48] <michaliskasapas> lubuntu!! i know it
[14:48] <k1mmyyy> it's just so weird, these are literally identical sd cards
[14:48] <kuba7447> LXDE looks ugly
[14:49] <k1l> kuba7447: well, that is your personal opinion. others might have a differen opinion
[14:49] <Pinkamen1_D> can you try mounting somewhere else? $ umount ... $ mkdir -p /media/test $ mount -rw /dev/... /media/test
[14:49] <Pinkamen1_D> ?
[14:49] <Pinkamen1_D> (sudo those)
[14:49] <michaliskasapas> preload is good??
[14:51] <k1mmyyy> Pinkamen1_D, what filesystem type sholud i specify?
[14:51] <Pinkamen1_D> I have not had to
[14:51] <k1mmyyy> hmm...
[14:51] <k1mmyyy> when i tried mount it said i have to...
[14:51] <Pinkamen1_D> but it would depend on how it is formatted
[14:52] <Pinkamen1_D> oh that sounds not too good, like it had trouble reading/dececting it
[14:52] <Pinkamen1_D> I would guess that SDs could be FAT32 but you could theoretically use many filesystems
[14:54] <k1mmyyy> Pinkamen1_D, yeah, from fdisk, it's W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[14:55] <michaliskasapas> what is /tmp ???
[14:55] <k1mmyyy> hahahahah
[14:55] <k1mmyyy> welp, this is making me crazy
[14:55] <k1mmyyy> is there some way i can easily just reformat it?
[14:55] <Pinkamen1_D> you can try gparted
[14:56] <michaliskasapas> plz guys what is /tmp
[14:56] <Pinkamen1_D> that is the package name
[14:56] <michaliskasapas> aaa ty man
[14:56] <michaliskasapas> i have a pr with this
[14:56] <michaliskasapas> i try to put on low pc lubuntu
[14:56] <Pinkamen1_D> l
[14:56] <michaliskasapas> and a have error
[14:56] <Pinkamen1_D> /tmp is just a temporary part of the file system, sometimes mounted as a ramdisk, and usually writable my all users.
[14:57] <Pinkamen1_D> by*
[14:57] <michaliskasapas> ty man
[14:57] <michaliskasapas> cy guys
[14:57] <michaliskasapas> love
[14:57] <kuba7447> tmp = temporary
[14:59] <Arlo> any one here or just idle
[14:59] <cfhowlett> Arlo, ask your ubuntu question
[15:00] <kuba7447> im here
[15:00] <michaliskasapas> m2
[15:00] <Pinkamen1_D> I am not here
[15:00] <Arlo> looking for a good tool to monitor switch traffic
[15:00] <michaliskasapas> i am afk
[15:01] <michaliskasapas> preload is good?
[15:01] <Arlo> thanks ill research
[15:01] <epicnah> hello, im using intel, any chance for me to install ubuntu 15 server ?
[15:02] <cfhowlett> !server | epicnah
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> michaliskasapas in a terminal, type this command and see if you can use it apt-cache show preload
[15:02] <michaliskasapas> preload is good for 1gb ram?
[15:02] <epicnah> ty
[15:02] <michaliskasapas> preload is good for 1gb ram?
[15:03] <cfhowlett> !patience | michaliskasapas
[15:03] <michaliskasapas> ok sr man
[15:03] <compdoc> whats preload?
[15:03] <michaliskasapas> faster load for ram
[15:04] <michaliskasapas> but if is only 1gb is it bad?
[15:04] <kuba7447> can i mix two different ram sticks?
[15:04] <michaliskasapas> yes but
[15:04] <cfhowlett> kuba7447, everything I've ever read says NO ...
[15:04] <michaliskasapas> he go in lower ram stick hzr
[15:04] <michaliskasapas> hrz*
[15:05] <michaliskasapas> if is 1100hrz and 900hrz he go in 900
[15:05] <epicnah> i was installed ubuntu 15 server with usb stick + squid network proxy connection. why do i got kernel error during the ubuntu 15 server error install for my intel i5 proc ?
[15:05] <Arlo> looks like preload is a readahead daemon
[15:05] <Arlo> i am looking to find network collisions on a switch
[15:05] <cfhowlett> epicnah, md5sum you .iso and your boot USB
[15:05] <epicnah> aha
[15:06] <kuba7447> ok, thanks, cfhowlett
[15:06] <cfhowlett> kuba7447, happy2help!
[15:06] <michaliskasapas> clear
[15:06] <epicnah> its usb installer from pendrivelinux. does it support ubuntu 15 usb install ?
[15:07] <cfhowlett> epicnah, yes, but you should still verify integrity
[15:07] <michaliskasapas> look i have 32gb ram and 10tb hard disk! and i have wn 8.1 and ubuntu
[15:07] <epicnah> aye aye sir
[15:10] <skinux> Do the latest repos have PhpMyAdmin version 4.4?
[15:11] <Arlo> sudo apt-cache search PhpMyAdmin
[15:11] <Arlo> type that
[15:11] <epicnah> all my iso have matched md5, why do i still got error for my intel i5 proc :( is it squid network matter of my PC hardware problem ? i have tried it since yesterday, still no luck for me :( any idea?
[15:11] <daum> hey guys i'm following http://work.allaboutken.com/node/21 to add multiple ips to a single ubuntu machine. It works for a secondary ip, if i add a 3rd ip should it be tab 3 or should it still be tab 2?
[15:11] <skinux> I know ubuntu repos have PhpMyAdmin, I'm asking about the specific version
[15:11] <epicnah> ***of or
[15:11] <Pici> skinux: The next release of Ubuntu will have 4.4, but that isn't due until October
[15:11] <k1mmyyy> Pinkamen1_D, for future reference tell people to use gparted, i just nuked the stupid SD card and now it works
[15:11] <k1mmyyy> thanks bye
[15:12] <Arlo> gotcha sorry
[15:12] <skinux> Well, I'm just noticing that the documentation pages for PhpMyAdmin doesn't even list 4.0 anymore.
[15:13] <skinux> Well, it lists a bunch of 3.x versions and then 4.4
[15:13] <michaliskasapas> guys
[15:16] <Arlo> skimux look here you can d/l not sure on repositorieshttp://www.phpmyadmin.net/home_page/downloads.php
[15:16] <Arlo> oooops skinux
[15:17] <skinux> Documentation lists a PPA, but will that replace the default installation or would it be an additional installation?
[15:18] <Arlo> i do not know, ill leave that for someone else to answer
[15:18] <sara_> hey people i got problems booting my ubuntu studio after i updated yesterday....
[15:18] <sara_> anyone wanna help?
[15:19] <bstarek> explain
[15:19] <cfhowlett> sara_, no detailz = no helpz. be specific
[15:19] <k1l> michaliskasapas: dont use preload. lubuntu uses zram ootb. that is good.
[15:19] <sara_> when i boot the screen is dark....it is on but no picture....if i punch in my password it plays that login sound....but again no picture
[15:20] <michaliskasapas> i have same error to!
[15:20] <michaliskasapas> with last updated
[15:20] <sara_> yeah please help i am on wifes comp atm....really need my comp for work
[15:20] <bstarek> do you have ssh server on it? and a static ip?
[15:21] <k1l> michaliskasapas: please make a proper question and name your ubuntu version, the exact error and the hrdware specs
[15:21] <sara_> no ssh but ip is static
[15:21] <sara_> i mean i thik i dont have ssh :P sry
[15:21] <bstarek> sara_, boot on livecd, copy your data and then we will talk
[15:22] <bstarek> sara_, it is not installed by default, thus i dont think you have it
[15:24] * epicnah coffe time
[15:26] <supersmilers> Hi. I tried Ubuntu Mate but It won't install certain packages when I installed Ubuntu in Virtual machine. My host is Windows 8.1 Pro on Surface Pro 3.
[15:26] <k1l> michaliskasapas: what ubuntu is it exactly? is it installed or live version? what is the exact errormessage? ....
[15:26] <k1l> michaliskasapas: details matter
[15:27] <compdoc> supersmilers, which packages?
[15:27] <sara_> i remembered i have team viewer and i booted and put in my password and now i can log in and see desktop on my mobile team viewer app
[15:28] <supersmilers> Normally it would hang on configuring desktop packages that are kernel based like desktop-base.
[15:31] <supersmilers> How do I fix that without reinstalling Ubuntu Mate every time when it happens.
[15:32] <nicomachus> -f install?
[15:33] <k1l> supersmilers: i am not aware of any such issue
[15:33] <k1l> supersmilers: can you pastebin some examples?
[15:34] <supersmilers> I always install those kind of packages through Synaptic Package Manager and my Virtualization Host client is Hyper-V
[15:37] <sara_> bstarek i got team viewer on my machine and i can log in using team viewer app on my mobilephone
[15:37] <sara_> bstarek i am installing team viewer app on wifes comp so i can work better
[15:38] <supersmilers> Too bad Hyper-V don't have 3D support for Linux OS distros
[15:39] <bstarek> sara_, you said you werent able to login to your computer?or to bootup?
[15:39] <SaucisseCocktail> Hi everybody, Who get sometimes a very slow menu in Kodi 14.02 ? strangely, it seems to get correct after going in the video system menu...
[15:39] <bstarek> SaucisseCocktail, this is kodi bro
[15:39] <bstarek> isnt
[15:39] <sara_> i ll say again.....when i boot my comp i got no picture
[15:39] <bstarek> SaucisseCocktail, this ISNT kodi
[15:39] <bstarek> sara_, black screen?
[15:39] <sara_> but if i put in password i can hear login sound
[15:40] <sara_> it is black but not off
[15:40] <bstarek> sounds like driver issues
[15:40] <bstarek> sara_, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[15:40] <sara_> ubuntu studio 14.04
[15:41] <supersmilers> The version of Ubuntu Mate I used is 15.04
[15:42] <bstarek> sara_, it all started after an upgrade?
[15:42] <sara_> yes
[15:42] <sara_> update
[15:42] <sara_> 2 days ago
[15:42] <chotaz`w> !nomodeset
[15:43] <bstarek> sara_, what is your desktop environnement?
[15:43] <chotaz`w> sara_, no mode set just saved my life after a fault kernel upgrade
[15:43] <sara_> hmm ubuntu studio default :P xfce maybe?
[15:43] <sara_> ok i ll look into that link.....is it complicated
[15:43] <bstarek> sara_, let me check that real quick
[15:43] <sara_> ?
[15:44] <sara_> ok
[15:44] <TheEagerPadawan> Hi i wonder if a future employer refers in a job description up to 3 years of experience means that you need to have at least 3 years of exp or if he means it to be maxium 3 years
[15:44] <bstarek> sara_, you got an nvidia card?
[15:44] <sara_> yp
[15:45] <supersmilers> Anyway, I have better luck with Raspbian on my RPi 2 than my tablet.
[15:45] <k1l> TheEagerPadawan: that better suits into #ubuntu-offtopic since its not ubuntu related :)
[15:45] <Guest86091> Hi
[15:45] <TheEagerPadawan> k1l: my bad, moving channels
[15:45] <telesto> Hey all. Is there a way to give someone SSH access to just one directory, which also can be served by nginx? I thought maybe a chroot but wasn't sure if that would prevent the web server from serving those files
[15:45] <thisischrys> is there a way to run a single application with a different WM? I tried exporting WINDOW_MANAGER in a terminal before running it but that didn't help
[15:45] <Guest86091> I have a problem with server that running ubuntu, is this a proper channel to ask question about it?
[15:46] <supersmilers> Would pure Debian work better in Virtual Machine than Ubuntu?
[15:46] <sudoritz> can i show abolute file path but also show permissions too like ls -lart rwxrwxrwx but show files for 2 levels /folder1/file.xxx
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> sudoritz general linux questions in ##linux please
[15:47] <Guest86091> http://serverfault.com/questions/698335/bus-error-with-read-only-file-system-on-9-out-of-13-machines
[15:48] <Guest86091> this is my question
[15:48] <sara_> bstarek any news?
[15:48] <bstarek> sara_, can you acces command line ?
[15:48] <Guest86091> if anyone could help, I would appreciate this
[15:48] <bstarek> sara_, and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current-updates"
[15:49] <sara_> i will try trough team view...
[15:49] <bstarek> ok
[15:50] <bstarek> sara_, what is your laptop model? dell?
[15:51] <bstarek> sara_, full model please
[15:51] <sara_> im currently writing from wifes comp...lenovo E325 but this one is ok
[15:51] <sara_> my comp is stationary...or how to say
[15:52] <bstarek> sara_, what is model? or graphic card model?
[15:52] <compdoc> desktop?
[15:53] <sara_> my graphic card is nvidia 560 gtx
[15:54] <bstarek> sara_, ok one sec
[15:55] <sara_> ok i did this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current-updates" nvidia current updates is not installed and no info is available
[15:57] <ltk_> hello, i want know what is mean that 'LIST_POSION1' and 'LIST_POSION2' from linux kernel file "list.h"
[15:57] <bstarek> sara_, ok one sec
[15:58] <sara_> am using nvidia 331.113 propriatery drivers
[15:58] <sara_> just checked
[15:59] <thisischrys> ltk_: they're pointers to trap wrong use of freed list heads
[15:59] <thisischrys> why?
[15:59] <bstarek> sara_, try this link http://askubuntu.com/questions/469377/cant-install-ubuntu-14-04-shows-black-screen-gtx-750-ti
[16:01] <ltk_> thisischrys: the function "list_del" how to work by two macros
[16:03] <thisischrys> ltk_: this really isn't the place for linux kernel support or explanations, I suggest #kernelnewbies on irc.oftc.net
[16:03] <bstarek> sara_, try this link too "http://askubuntu.com/questions/561948/ubuntu-14-04-nvidia-331-update-problem"
[16:04] <ltk_> thisischrys: tks
[16:04] <thisischrys> np
[16:04] <thisischrys> good luck
[16:05] <bstarek> sara_, i'm just googling my a** lol...i am trying to help, sorry if you dont get results.
[16:05] <bstarek> :)
[16:06] <ioria> ltk_ http://www.makelinux.net/ldd3/chp-11-sect-5
[16:06] <bstarek> sara_, by experience i know that nvidia could give troubles for graphic cards, that one needs to make sure to pickup the right one. if not, you need to un-install and re-install the right ones.
[16:07] <sara_> bstarek thanks i appreciate your help
[16:07] <sara_> but i am a bit pissed becouse i got a feeling i ll have to reinstell everithing
[16:08] <sara_> my work comp :(
[16:08] <crocket> The boot screen is black after upgrading ubuntu to 15.04.
[16:08] <crocket> It seems radeon driver is missing from initramfs.
[16:08] <crocket> How do I insert radeon driver into initrd?
[16:08] <thisischrys> mkinitcpio
[16:09] <sara_> bstarek how do i change drivers from terminal from nvidia 311 proprietary to nvidia 331 updates?
[16:09] <sara_> maybe that culd help :P
[16:09] <bstarek> sara_, it is ok, try what i have sent you first....if nothing works, save your work and re-install, it is no big deal, it happens to us all.
[16:09] <g105b> How do I check that my Ubuntu server is set up to use NTP to keep the time synced?
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> g105b is this useful https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/NTP.html
[16:10] <crocket> ok
[16:10] <g105b> MonkeyDust: thanks, didn't realise it ran as a service.
[16:11] <bstarek> sara_, let me check..one minute
[16:11] <crocket> I just had to insert 'radeon' into /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and execute 'update-initramfs -u -k all'.
[16:12] <bstarek> sara_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/138284/how-to-downgrade-a-package-via-apt-get remember google is your friend.
[16:13] <sara_> bstarek thanks
[16:13] <crocket> oh noes...
[16:13] <ImJune> Hello
[16:13] <bstarek> sara_, you are welcome, glad to help.
[16:14] <crocket> Even with 'radeon' in initrd, the monitor gets no signal during ubuntu boot.
[16:14] <ImJune> I am trying to run this command after pressing ctr alt f1 "diff -ns ~/dmesg_boot ~/dmesg > ~/dmesg_diff"
[16:15] <ImJune> I am getting permission denied statement
[16:15] <sara_> really appreciate your help bstarek
[16:15] <bstarek> sara_, no problem, good luck with your issue.
[16:17] <ImJune> is there a way to enter that command
[16:17] <ImJune> I am guessing I should be root
[16:17] <panicbit> Hi, I'm trying to update to PHP 5.4 on lucid using this PPA: https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php5-oldstable But apt still wants to install PHP 5.3 from the distro repo. Any ideas why that might be?
[16:17] <panicbit> (Yes I did apt-get update)
[16:19] <fullstack> Anyone have the problemw here Chrome goes crazy and displays a bunch of pink tab squares instead of a webpage?
[16:20] <Pici> panicbit: What release of Ubuntu are you running now?
[16:21] <panicbit> Pici: 10.04.4
[16:21] <Pici> panicbit: Well, that PPA only has packages for 12.04.
[16:21] <panicbit> oO
[16:21] <panicbit> Oh right
[16:22] <Pici> panicbit: Additionally, 10.04 was dropped from Ubuntu support on April 30th.
[16:22] <Pici> !lucid
[16:22] <panicbit> Pici: Then I only need to adjust my sources line... The packages work fine when installed manually
[16:22] <Pici> panicbit: well, good luck with that ;)
[16:22] <panicbit> Pici: Eh, I sadly can't upgrade...
[16:22] <panicbit> Pici: vserver suckage
[16:23] <panicbit> Pici: The server is a big mess of software pulled from newer versions... :/
[16:23] <Pici> panicbit: Gross. At least you recognise it though.
[16:24] <sara_> bstarek im in :D
[16:24] <bstarek> sara_, great :), how did you fo?
[16:24] <bstarek> do
[16:25] <panicbit> Pici: Hm, I think the PPA has dropped support for lucid...
[16:26] <panicbit> Oh well...
[16:26] <sara_> trough team viewer i logged on my pc and changed drivers to xserver-xorg-video nuveau from nvidia 331.113
[16:26] <sara_> i just got one final question
[16:26] <bstarek> ok good
[16:26] <sara_> i work with graphics specially with 3D so i need better drivers....which driver should i choose now?
[16:27] <bstarek> sara_, i cant tell you, you will have to make some research on google.
[16:27] <sara_> ok np
[16:27] <bstarek> sara_, or maybe try the nvidia forum
[16:28] <bstarek> sara_, but I am sure you will find the information if you look for it.
[16:28] <notevenandrew> Hello, I made a udev rule to run a script every time i connect my phone, but now my phone won't auto-mount in /run/user/1000/gvfs/ Does anyone have any suggestions im stuck!
[16:29] <epicnah> sara, apple pc is good for designer CMIW. im using intel, comfort with nvidia in my opion :)
[16:29] <sara_> i hate apple
[16:30] <sara_> i work on mac pro at work
[16:30] <epicnah> but the color is more deep in apple
[16:31] <sara_> lol
[16:31] <sara_> u joking
[16:31] <bstarek> sara_, try this "http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/84721/en-us" in "supported products"
[16:31] <sara_> u mean difference between rec 709 and sRGB display device?
[16:34] <epicnah> really ?
[16:34] <sara_> what really?
[16:35] <epicnah> np
[16:35] <sara_> look for comparison between rec709 and sRGB
[16:35] <sara_> if you dont belive me
[16:37] <sara_> i ll log back in from my main comp under vandorius nick ;)
[16:37] <notevenandrew> Ok so apparently GVFS stands for gnome virtual filesystem. Therefore it is obvious that nothing is mounted there since nautilus doesn't automatically mount it (or detect it)
[16:37] <vandorius> hey
[16:37] <notevenandrew> How can i manually mount that MTP device somewhere else then :-)
[16:38] <Pici> notevenandrew: iirc, you can access it from the shell by going into ~/.gvfs/ I might be confusing things though (I'm not a desktop person)
[16:41] <notevenandrew> Pici: thanks for the input, but i think you missed the context: The automount was working well, and it was mounting my device under /run/user/1000/gvfs/mtp:[blabla], i put some custom rules in udev, and this automount thing stopped working. So i am looking for a manual way to mount it somewhere from the script im running
[16:45] <Pici> notevenandrew: oh, sorry, I did miss a bunch.
[16:50] <JinjaNinja> I have JACK Virtual Keyboard running, and It's connected to Calf Organ plugin. For some reason though, it doesn't make sound.
[16:55] <fgro> hi all. so I helped a friend of my mother to switch from windows vista to ubuntu. everything works fine, except for her printer/scanner. it's a brother mfc-j430w. any recommendations on how to deal with this? I think the best would be for her to get a new printer/scanner that works plug and play since I'm several hours away and don't have remote access to her machine. Thanks for your advice.
[16:57] <LinuxNewb> herro
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> fgro: check apt-cache search brother, maybe your printers drivers show there
[16:58] <LinuxNewb> Why is ubuntu so bad
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> LinuxNewb: this is not the right place for this kind of opinions
[16:59] <BluesKaj> LinuxNewb, tell us what's bad so we can help you make it good
[16:59] <ImJune> I dunno
[16:59] <ImJune> I had my mousepad fixed
[16:59] <ImJune> I had to reinstall and now my "touchpad" rather is not working agian
[16:59] <BluesKaj> LinuxNewb, or are you just to complain?
[16:59] <ImJune> I went to /etc/default/grub
[17:00] <LinuxNewb> Well the fact that ubuntu is like the windows of the gnu world, they want to only make money
[17:00] <BluesKaj> here
[17:00] <fgro> lotuspsychje: i tried to install the printer, but there were no drivers available. i found instructions which included complex commandline instructions, but it didn't work.
[17:00] <bazhang> LinuxNewb, wrong channel
[17:00] <LinuxNewb> on top of that unity is trash
[17:00] <BluesKaj> LinuxNewb, then you're in the wrong place for that discusssion
[17:00] <ImJune> changed the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= as I did before
[17:00] <ImJune> but this fix doesnt work
[17:01] <ImJune> any more
[17:01] <ImJune> is there somekind of kernel bug or something I can fix?
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> !details | ImJune
[17:02] <ImJune> Ok so my laptops touchpad is not responding
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> ImJune: ubuntu version?
[17:02] <ImJune> 15.04
[17:02] <ImJune> 9 month support version
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> ImJune: did you have same on 14.04?
[17:02] <LinuxNewb> ImJune i can help you , just open a terminal
[17:02] <ImJune> ok
[17:02] <ImJune> terminal is open
[17:02] <LinuxNewb> now type sudo poweroff
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> !ops | LinuxNewb
[17:02] <bazhang> LinuxNewb, dont try anything silly here
[17:03] <ImJune> nice troll
[17:03] <narkman> XD
[17:03] <LinuxNewb> :P
[17:03] <LinuxNewb> was your touchpad working before? or like just suddenly it stopped?
[17:03] <ImJune> I have fixed this issue in the past editing the grub file in /etc/default
[17:04] <ImJune> No I mean I had to reinstall and the prior fix that I used wont work agiann
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> ImJune: what fix?
[17:05] <notevenandrew> Wherever i searched, they tell you to install and use go-mtpfs
[17:05] <notevenandrew> but i can't install that xD
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> notevenandrew: wich ubuntu version do you have?
[17:06] <notevenandrew> 15.04
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> !info mtpfs
[17:06] <ImJune> adding i8042.reset i8042.nomux i8042.nopnp i8042.noloop to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= line
[17:06] <ImJune> as before there was only "quiet splash"
[17:07] <ImJune> this fix had worked prior
[17:07] <notevenandrew> !info go-mtpfs
[17:07] <notevenandrew> it is in another repository, but i added it :<
[17:07] <ImJune> any ideas?
[17:07] <bazhang> !find gmtp
[17:07] <bazhang> its gmtp
[17:08] <notevenandrew> okay let me try it :)
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> ImJune: never seen that addline sorry, where did you find that?
[17:08] <ImJune> etc/default/grub
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> ImJune: i mean wich tutorial/forum?
[17:09] <ImJune> moment
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> ImJune: sounds like this kind of bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1448665
[17:11] <ImJune> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2233632&page=2
[17:12] <narkman> yes i know that bug
[17:12] <narkman> i have it to and i fix it
[17:12] <ImJune> you fixed it?
[17:12] <fgro> so what i'm looking for is a plug and play printer/scanner for 14.04 .. i found this list, but anyone with recommendations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[17:12] <narkman> yes
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> fgro: hp always does the trick
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> fgro: with hplip tools its gonna be your best bet with ubuntu
[17:13] <fgro> lotuspsychje: hplip needs to be manually installed I assume?
[17:13] <fgro> lotuspsychje: or does it come with ubunut preinstalled?
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> !info hplip | fgro
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> fgro: optional
[17:14] <fgro> ok
[17:14] <fgro> lotuspsychje: thanks
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> fgro: no prob
[17:14] <ImJune> can you share how you fixed it?
[17:15] <ImJune> everysingle time I reboot there is an error message system problem detected
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> ImJune: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection
[17:16] <ImJune> I have been there but some of their instructions don't even work
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> ImJune: did you try a no_acpi boot?
[17:16] <ImJune> how to do that?
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | ImJune
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> ImJune: same way you set nomodeset, try no_acpi
[17:18] <ImJune> Ok I will try this
[17:20] <ImJune> shall I add exactly this ? GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset acpi_osi=\"Linux\"" ?
[17:20] <ImJune> as shown in your link?
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> ImJune: no, not the nomodeset
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> ImJune: try F6 at boot and get into boot options for no_acpi
[17:21] <ImJune> so don't alter grub from inside
[17:21] <ImJune> ?
[17:21] <ImJune> do all this at boot ?
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> ImJune: yes you can try from boot
[17:22] <ImJune> I cant
[17:22] <ImJune> doesnt give me that option
[17:22] <ImJune> because I have disabled the grub screen
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> ImJune: http://askubuntu.com/questions/160036/how-do-i-disable-acpi-when-booting
[17:23] <notevenandrew> i think you can still see it if you spam Esc after POST
[17:25] <YokoBR> dudes... zentyal team has taken a shit on that project
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> !language | YokoBR
[17:25] <YokoBR> idk if they're trying to be a commercial focused group
[17:25] <YokoBR> sorry about that
[17:26] <YokoBR> i'm just pissed off about it
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> YokoBR: whats your ubuntu questione exactly?
[17:26] <YokoBR> just an off topic comment.
[17:27] <robhol> quite a few channels on freenode with sticks up their ass, heh
[17:28] <YokoBR> when you think about enterprising, you think about long term. products, like ubuntu lts
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[17:28] <YokoBR> okay, thanks and sorry
[17:31] <ImJune> sorry it says evtest command not ffound
[17:31] <ImJune> is this tool no longer around?
[17:31] <SchrodingersScat> !info evtest | ImJune, was in my 15.04 repos,
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> ImJune: doesn't xev do what you need?
[17:32] <ImJune> well when I try to use it in a vt I get command not found
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> ImJune: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[17:35] <nimbiotics> Hello everyone. There is only one user in my ubuntu 14.04 installation. I mistakenly took ,myself out of the sudoers group. Is there a way to fix that?
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: use root recovery console from Grub
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: you can then add your user to the sudo group and reboot.
[17:35] <ImJune> ubuntu 15.04
[17:35] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: Ok, thanks
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: you may need to remount your system partition as writable using: mount -o remount,rw /
[17:36] <ImJune> \n \l
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> ImJune: is this a server install? No gui?
[17:36] <ImJune> this is full gui
[17:36] <ImJune> unity desktop
[17:36] <ImJune> I had fixed this previously touchpad working no issues
[17:37] <ImJune> but I reinstalled to an mSata drive and deleted the sata3 drive
[17:37] <ImJune> now I can not get this mousepad working again
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> ImJune: unity is a shell (gnome is the desktop) :)
[17:37] <ImJune> ok my bad
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> ImJune: is it a laptop?
[17:37] <ImJune> yes
[17:37] <ImJune> very generic one
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> ImJune: what make and model?
[17:38] <ImJune> its a frontier pc KOUZIRO 14 laptop
[17:38] <ImJune> i5 3317u
[17:38] <ImJune> same chip as the original surface pro and one of the macbook air models
[17:39] <ImJune> if you have time can we go to pm?
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> ImJune: have you tried the boot option: i8024.reset or i8024.irqpoll or i8024.nomux
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> ImJune: worth a shot
[17:40] <ImJune> I will pastebin for you
[17:40] <ImJune> the grub
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> ImJune: i dont need it, just try the options
[17:40] <ImJune> all at once?
[17:40] <ImJune> or 1 and 1
[17:40] <ImJune> 1 by 1*
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> ImJune: individually. You will need to reboot to test
[17:45] <ImJune> did you mean i8042?
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> ImJune: https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=i8024.reset no :D
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> ImJune: its a common couple of boot options I know that do something to make touchpads work.
[17:46] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: It worked, Thanks!
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: sweet as
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: you can use the same to reset user passwords if you forget yours
[17:50] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: hope note. but thanks!!
[17:50] <notevenandrew> Apparently udev doesnt like running commands from it, even if i use disown
[17:50] <jaydemir> hello all
[17:52] <anonimouse> Hello anyone there?
[17:52] <anonimouse> Can anyone help me?
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> anonimouse start with a question
[17:53] <ImJune> this is brutal
[17:54] <ImJune> far to fall when it was working fine before
[17:54] <anonimouse> I am having a dual boot with window s 8.1 . Hours before, i used windows and returned to ubuntu to find i cant get audio from VLC and other players
[17:54] <JinjaNinja> Anyone have experience with jack connections?
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> anonimouse in a terminal, type alsamixer if you see MM, go there and hit m
[17:55] <JinjaNinja> MonkeyDust, you seem like you could be of some help, could you help me connect my Virtual JACK keyboard to QSynth?
[17:55] <anonimouse> @MonkeyDust my alsamixer is looking weird with just three squares all saying OO
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> JinjaNinja better ask in #ubuntustudio, it's multimidia dedicated
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> multimedia*
[17:56] <JinjaNinja> Thanks :)
[17:56] <pbx> JinjaNinja, anonimouse, also - address the room, not individuals
[17:57] <JinjaNinja> Whoops
[17:57] <anonimouse> sorry pbx. How do i address the room?
[17:58] <pbx> anonimouse, just ask your question(s)
[17:58] <BluesKaj> anonimouse, you are addressing the room by typing into the textbox and hitting enter
[17:59] <pbx> anonimouse, i apologize though, i see you were responding to MonkeyDust, never mind
[17:59] <jaydemir> I had a question. I'm running xfce-desktop on my chromebook and I'm trying to customize it. I want to change the menu from default, and it's asking for a menu file. Where can I get more menu files to choose from?
[17:59] <ImJune> what does booting to insecure mode mean?
[17:59] <ghosty_> bonjour a tout le monde
[17:59] <tck9> anyone seen this before? nfsmount fails to mount a share on bootup (dmesg has svc: failed to register lockdv1 RPC service (errno 97)). After the system has booted up, manually doing a 'mount -a' works fine and mounts the share
[17:59] <ImJune> this is literally depressinng
[17:59] <notevenandrew> ImJune, i can relate to that!
[18:00] <JinjaNinja> Does anyone know of some multimedia chans besides #ubuntustudio ?
[18:00] <jaydemir> I couldn't quite get cinnamon working on here but I was trying to see if I could get a nice transparent menu going.
[18:00] <anonimouse> I cant hear audio from video files. I cant hear anything if I try to play mp3 files with VLC , but i can hear using mp3 players. However I can hear drumrolls.
[18:00] <pavlos> !fr| ghosty_
[18:01] <ghosty_> merci
[18:01] <marcanuy> I've made a new directory /opt/foobar; adduser john; usermod -a -G john myCurrentUser; chmod 775 /opt/foobar; touch /opt/foobar <--- PERMISSION DENIED, what am I missing?
[18:01] <JinjaNinja> sudo
[18:02] <marcanuy> JinjaNinja, my current user belongs to /opt/foobar group
[18:02] <JinjaNinja> marcanuy, are you doing this as root?
[18:03] <marcanuy> JinjaNinja, I've created them with root, then I switched to a regular user
[18:03] <JinjaNinja> do sudo <all the stuff you put into term>
[18:04] <marcanuy> JinjaNinja, I was trying to create a new group, add my current user to it, and be able to work in a directory belonging to that group
[18:06] <samuraicat> Hoping for some help with XSANE. Was scanning fine but suddenly I'm getting error during save: Broken Pipe
[18:08] <entity_matt> Hi can anyone help me get my laptop to output to a second monitor. I'm using bumblbee and my vga port is connected to my nvidia card
[18:09] <notevenandrew> Ok so now im stuck trying to find how to detach a script from my script udev runs, so it unblocks it and lets it mount, i tried setsid but without any luck, also disown didnt help either
[18:09] <lumia935> hi
[18:10] <notevenandrew> if i just comment the line that runs the script, everything works fine, but when it runs, it just blocks it, even with setsid :(
[18:10] <ImJune> god I wish this would work again
[18:11] <ImJune> this is crazyness
[18:11] <entity_matt> Hi can anyone help me get my laptop to output to a second monitor. I'm using bumblbee and my vga port is connected to my nvidia card
[18:11] <lumia935> Download current vBulletin Styls/Plugins, or request one that you see from vbulletin.org (We hold a valid license) http://www.criosphinx.net/
[18:11] <lumia935> Download current vBulletin Styls/Plugins, or request one that you see from vbulletin.org (We hold a valid license) http://www.criosphinx.net/
[18:12] <samuraicat> XSane was scanning fine but now I get an error "Error during save: Broken Pipe"
[18:16] <deadmund> In the new OS X you can shake the cursor and it will grow to help you find it (http://video.businessinsider.com/d671cfbc-8412-416e-851c-c27510ede9a7.webm). Is there a similar feature anywhere in the Ubuntu world? (I use KDE if it matters)
[18:17] <entity_matt> Hi can anyone help me get my laptop to output to a second monitor. I'm using bumblbee and my vga port is connected to my nvidia card
[18:17] <reisio> deadmund: to indicate where the cursor is, or specifically to make it grow upon "shaking"? :p
[18:17] <deadmund> reisio: either/or Do you know of a feature that indicates where it is?
[18:18] <reisio> deadmund: yeah, in compizconfig, show mouse
[18:18] <deadmund> reisio: thanks!
[18:20] <deadmund> reisio: What's the relationship between KDE and compiz? It seems that it's using compiz but not fully or something? I think that gnome 2 handled compiz the best but I've never dug into it with KDE (much less KDE 5)
[18:21] <xangua> deadmund: kde uses it's owm compositing efects (kwin) and Gnome Shell uses "mutter" I believe
[18:21] <reisio> yeah ^
[18:21] <reisio> KDE probably has one, though
[18:21] <reisio> since that's basically an accessibility issue
[18:21] <reisio> ask #kde about it
[18:21] <xangua> kde used to use compiz too back in 3.x
[18:21] <reisio> I think not
[18:22] <deadmund> ok, thanks guys
[18:22] <deadmund> So it's actually not compiz, but it is a similar feature-set.
[18:22] <deadmund> ?
[18:22] <reisio> deadmund: yes
[18:22] <deadmund> thanks
[18:23] <marcanuy> If I do "$id myuser" it shows it is belonging to the same group defined in /opt/dev, "chgrp mygroup /opt/dev; chmod 775 /opt/dev", but when I try "$touch /opt/dev/something" shows Permission Denied, any idea?
[18:23] <notevenandrew> I summarized my issue in http://paste.ubuntu.com/11697737/ If someone can read that i would be really thankful :)
[18:23] <reisio> deadmund: try CTRL+Win
[18:25] <reisio> marcanuy: chgrp is for files
[18:25] <marcanuy> reisio, chown mygroup:mygroup /opt/dev
[18:25] <reisio> deadmund: http://www.bbc.co.uk/accessibility/guides/mouse_pointer/computer/linux/kde/#finding or #kde, again
[18:26] <reisio> marcanuy: might want -R
[18:26] <deadmund> reisio: You the best!!!
[18:26] <marcanuy> reisio, yes, the problem is that it doesn't allow a user belonging to that group to write a file there
[18:26] <marcanuy> reisio, even with chmod 775
[18:28] <samuraicat> XSane was scanning fine but now I get an error "Error during save: Broken Pipe"
[18:30] <deadmund> reisio: excellent thanks!
[18:30] <deadmund> reisio: Talk about customer service!
[18:30] <reisio> :p
[18:34] <samuraicat> XSane was scanning fine but now I get an error "Error during save: Broken Pipe"
[18:37] <muhkuh> hello world o/ might someone help me with a minor problem?
[18:38] <xangua> !ask
[18:38] <samuraicat> Magically solved my XSANE error. I just printed something and all of a sudden the scanning started working again!
[18:38] <muhkuh> =) right
[18:40] <muhkuh> i tried to tell my ubuntu studio version to start with the generic kernel as shown here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation, but it still is botting with the low-latency one
[18:40] <Inspiral> i made a fresh install of 14.04 lts. I ran 'sudo apt-get install lamp-server' and then 'service mysql stop', I then copied my old /var/lib/mysql folder to the new installation and tried 'service mysql start' i hit an error and would like to know how I can remove this install of mysql entirely and reinstall it as I cannot get it to restart even after removing /var/lib/mysql and 'apt-get purge mysql-server' and 'apt-get purge mysql-server-5.5' any
[18:40] <Inspiral> ideas?
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> muhkuh you too, there's also #ubuntustudio
[18:41] <muhkuh> aight Monkey
[18:45] <DrBotato> sometimes my backspace key makes a ^H instead of actually deleting. eg: rm: remove write-protected regular file ‘test.tar.gz’? su^H^H^H^H^H^C
[18:45] <DrBotato> is there a way to fix this?
[18:47] <angular_mike_> hello
[18:48] <angular_mike_> I think my OS got really messed up
[18:48] <Lunario> how can I access an ssh network device added to nautilus via terminal?
[18:48] <Lunario> its not in /media
[18:48] <angular_mike_> I've installed updates with security updater and restarted when prompted.
[18:48] <angular_mike_> But when I booted back up, I've immediately noticed some problems
[18:49] <angular_mike_> first, the quick launch bar to the left is gone
[18:49] <angular_mike_> second, many keyboard shortcuts have stopped working. I cant use them to switch monitors or open terminal
[18:50] <angular_mike_> It's a miracle that i've been able to navigate to chrome
[18:50] <angular_mike_> by creating a new folder on desktop
[18:50] <angular_mike_> how do I go about fixing this?
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> angular_mike_ spare the enter key, please
[18:51] <Inspiral> lol you're a helpful fellow MonkeyDust
[18:51] <Inspiral> use of the enter key helps convey the desperation angular_mike_ is expressing
[18:51] <Inspiral> imo
[18:52] <angular_mike_> ok, sorry for flooding, I'm just really distressed as you can guess; s/security updated/software updater/
[18:52] <Inspiral> angular_mike_, it seems like your desktop environment is messed up,
[18:53] <Inspiral> angular_mike_, if you create a new user account and login with that does everything show ok?
[18:53] <kostkon> angular_mike_, what's your graphics card and what driver are you using. You could start with this http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[18:53] <angular_mike_> Inspiral: yeah, i've also noticed that maximized windows get glitches a their top and there is no top menu with stuff like 'File', etc
[18:54] <angular_mike_> Inspiral: would logging in as guest be enough?
[18:54] <Inspiral> angular_mike_, try that link kostkon pasted
[18:55] <pavlos> Lunario, are you using samba?
[18:55] <Inspiral> guest might, i don't know. I was just suggesting to eliminate any configuration that's setup in your ~/
[18:57] <Lunario> pavlos:no, ssh
[18:57] <angular_mike_> kostkon: I'm guessing, I have to install the rest tool. Software Center doesn't seem to work anymore. I can install it via terminal, right? How do I open the terminal then?
[18:58] <pavlos> Lunario, I guess I dont understand your question ... you ssh to another box, now what?
[18:58] <kostkon> angular_mike_, ctrl+alt+f1 to f6 to access TTY F7 to get back. what rest tool?
[18:58] <angular_mike_> *reset tool
[18:59] <Lunario> i ssh'd into it via nautilus so that i can access the files in nautilus.. but how can i access the filesystem via terminal? i know i can ssh into it or use scp, but if the filesystem structure of the remote system has been "mounted" in nautilus (which seems to be the case) why is it not in /media or /mnt?
[19:00] <pavlos> Lunario, http://askubuntu.com/questions/412477/mount-remote-directory-using-ssh
[19:00] <kostkon> angular_mike_, follow the 2nd method.
[19:01] <kostkon> angular_mike_, or download it with chrome, then to install it sudo dpkg -i ***.deb or
[19:01] <wafflejock> Lunario, can use Ctrl+L to see the current path in nautilus when you have the server window open and see if it's mounted somewhere or just connected via samba or otherwise
[19:01] <kostkon> angular_mike_, just download and run the script
[19:02] <Lunario> i am familiar with sshfs but I thought it might already be mounted but just not where I expected it to be... anyways, thanks
[19:02] <kostkon> angular_mike_, or try the 2nd method, as I suggested already
[19:03] <angular_mike_> kostkon: ok, i'm following the second methd. I've got an nvidia card for laptops, btw
[19:06] <notevenandrew> Ubuntu keeps asking me to enter the password for cryptswap1, is there a way to decrypt it? It is popping up very frequently.
[19:06] <angular_mike_> kostkon: hmm, I get `error: Cannot autolaunch D-Bus without X11 $DISPLAY` when trying to run `dconf reset -f /org/compiz/` from the TTY
[19:07] <kostkon> angular_mike_, hmm ok. are you sure you can't start a terminal on your desktop?
[19:08] <angular_mike_> kostkon: the hotkey combinations dont work
[19:08] <angular_mike_> kostkon: if I could find the executable, I might be able to
[19:08] <kostkon> angular_mike_, tried both alt+f2 & ctrl+alt+t ?
[19:09] <angular_mike_> kostkon: yes
[19:10] <angular_mike_> shit, alt + tab also doesnt work, I thought I had lost the browser for a while
[19:11] <kostkon> angular_mike_, is there any way you could open a nautilus window?
[19:11] <kostkon> angular_mike_, like having a folder on your desktop you could click on. also try pressing ctrl+n
[19:12] <angular_mike_> kostkon: yes, I managed to open it by creating a new folder on desktop
[19:13] <kostkon> angular_mike_, gnome-terminal should be in /usr/bin
[19:13] <kostkon> angular_mike_, alternatively, you could download and run the script from the webupd8 page
[19:14] <angular_mike_> kostkon: hmm I see no gnome-terminal in /usr/bin
[19:15] <kostkon> angular_mike_, should be there
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> angular_mike_ type which gnome-terminal
[19:16] <angular_mike_> MonkeyDust: it returns nothing
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> angular_mike_ where did you type it? is it ubuntu?
[19:17] <angular_mike_> MonkeyDust: in TTY
[19:17] <angular_mike_> MonkeyDust: yes, it's ubuntu
[19:18] <angular_mike_> MonkeyDust: I've found a desktop shortcut to gnome-terminal and launching it yields `there was an error launching the application`
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> ok, then try installing it... sudo apt-get install gnome-terminal
[19:18] <angular_mike_> MonkeyDust: alt+f4 works strangely. useful, because there's no 'x's for closing
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> angular_mike_ i'm not following you, what was your initial question?
[19:20] <angular_mike_> MonkeyDust: ok, terminal runs now
[19:20] <angular_mike_> MonkeyDust: um, my inital question was how to fix this mess
[19:21] <MonkeyDust> angular_mike_ specify "mess"
[19:21] <angular_mike_> MonkeyDust: no quick launch tab and multiple hokeys not working
[19:23] <angular_mike_> kostkon: ok, now I've successfully run the `dconf reset -f /org/compiz/`
[19:23] <blz> Hello, how do I configure groups such that all newly-created subdirectories belong to a given group?
[19:24] <kostkon> angular_mike_, either do setsid unity or if you want, reboot
[19:24] <blz> For instance, I have directory `A`. I want it and all its future children to belong to group `g`.
[19:24] <blz> how do I do this?
[19:24] <angular_mike_> kostkon: it says that I need to run `setsid unity` next. When I run it I get ` execvp: No such file or directory`. Quick google shows people reinstalling gcc++ to fix that. Should this apply in my case?
[19:25] <angular_mike_> kostkon: wait, installing execvp
[19:26] <kostkon> angular_mike_, i guess you could reboot. although your system exhibits some peculiar symptoms, like the initial problem when trying to start the terminal and now this
[19:26] <angular_mike_> kostkon: ok, ill reboot then
[19:26] <kostkon> angular_mike_, i don't really know what to make of this
[19:26] <angular_mike_> kostkon: hopefully, I'll be able to launch chrome after that
[19:26] <angular_mike_> LETS GO
[19:27] <kostkon> angular_mike_, do it :P
[19:31] <angular_mike_> ok, after restart nothing seems to have changed
[19:31] <angular_mike_> kostkon: as you might have noticed I seem to also be missing some cruicial program installations
[19:32] <angular_mike_> kostkon: before installing updates I was messing with virtualbox, but nothing more dangerous than `apt ge install/remove` no flags like `purge`
[19:32] <kostkon> angular_mike_, you could try reinstalling the ubuntu desktop, sudo apt-get clean and then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --reinstall
[19:33] <pbx> how do i change the system notification style in 14.04 (unity)?
[19:34] <angular_mike_> kostkon: ok, trying
[19:35] <angular_mike_> pbx: you mean the graphical notification bubbles?
[19:36] <angular_mike_> pbx: there seems to be a 3-rd party patch for customizing them: http://askubuntu.com/questions/128474/how-to-customize-on-screen-notifications
[19:39] <angular_mike_> kostkon: ok, reinstalling the ubuntu desktop seems to have fixed the problem, at least the symptom, thanks you
[19:40] <angular_mike_> I'm still worried about the missing programs
[19:40] <angular_mike_> any idea how to survey the damage?
[19:40] <EriC^^> what programs angular_mike_ ?
[19:40] <angular_mike_> EriC^^: my gnome-terminal had magically disappeared for once
[19:41] <EriC^^> was it still installed in dpkg -l ?
[19:41] <EriC^^> or apt-cache policy ?
[19:41] <kostkon> angular_mike_, good news, you could check your logs for any possible damage. make sure you check your dpkg.log and see what packages were installed / removed during in the last couple of days i guess
[19:42] <angular_mike_> EriC^^: also, I recall ctrl+alt+T stopping opening terminator instead of terminal right before restart after installign the updates
[19:42] <kostkon> minus during*
[19:42] <angular_mike_> kostkon: will do
[19:43] <angular_mike_> I have to say, this is not the first time I messed up my Ubunty by messing with Virtualbox
[19:43] <heeen> I'm on kubuntu and for some reason powerdevil stopped working
[19:43] <heeen> this setup is like 2 hours old
[19:43] <heeen> there was a conflict earlier and I had to do apt-get install -f
[19:44] <EriC^^> angular_mike_: debsums can check all files of installed packages and see if the checksums match
[19:44] <EriC^^> !info debsums | angular_mike_ in case you need it
[19:46] <pbx> angular_mike_, thanks. yeah, that's what i meant. i changed the style and don't know how it happened (perhaps by installing i3)
[19:47] <Finetundra> can I ask questions about lxqt here?
[19:51] <brainwash> Finetundra: you should first ask in #lxde
[19:52] <Finetundra> brainwash: I have but they're not very active. I was hoping I might m=be able to ask here
[19:52] <brainwash> Finetundra: lxqt is not available in the official repos, so it's not really supported here
[19:53] <Finetundra> sigh
[19:53] <brainwash> Finetundra: just wait a bit and someone in #lxde will answer. maybe even use the mailing list
[20:01] <meyou> anyknow know how i might undelete a vmdk from a vmfs volume using fuse vmfs
[20:04] <jean-guy> #xubuntu
[20:07] <jean-guy> good day everyone... in xubuntu, can we find a code for each letter of the alphabeth, or number or other symbol ? something like the ascii codes in windows?
[20:10] <nicomachus> so I finished a HDD clone via dd this morning... and there was a 1B difference between the if and of. oops? going to matter? trivial?
[20:12] <pavlos> nicomachus, one byte?
[20:13] <EriC^^> nicomachus: how did you get that difference?
[20:15] <dStruct> hey guys, i'm launching Ubuntu via a Unetbootin USB bootloader/grub and I appear to be doing something wrong trying to get into single user, here's the grub line .. /ubnkern initrd=/ubninit file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper quiet splash -- persistant
[20:15] <dStruct> do I need to put "single" before the --?
[20:19] <dStruct> anyone?
[20:21] <daftykins> ?
[20:21] <dStruct> daftykins: trying to figure out why I can't get into single user mode
[20:22] <daftykins> it doesn't exist anymore
[20:22] <daftykins> boot with 'text' instead
[20:22] <dStruct> daftykins: seriously, even on 12.x?
[20:22] <daftykins> *shrug*
[20:22] <nicomachus> EriC^^ and pavlos: according the readout when dd finished. It showed the if size and of size, and there was a 1B difference.
[20:22] <angular_mike_> ok guys, remember the problem I had about half an hour ago
[20:22] <EriC^^> nicomachus: what options did you use for dd?
[20:23] <angular_mike_> I've been able to replicate it
[20:23] <nicomachus> Don't remember the numbers exactly, but something like if=936473879839 of=936473879838
[20:23] <nicomachus> no options, EriC^^
[20:23] <nicomachus> I thought it was just kinda odd that it was 1B
[20:23] <EriC^^> nicomachus: ok, i'm not sure if it matters
[20:24] <angular_mike_> All I had to do was install this package: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.3.28/virtualbox-4.3_4.3.28-100309~Ubuntu~raring_i386.deb
[20:24] <angular_mike_> gnome-terminal -- gone
[20:24] <nicomachus> yea, I don't think it'll make much of a difference... will be home in 1.5 hours and will try to boot it up then.
[20:24] <angular_mike_> is there anywhere I should report this?
[20:25] <EriC^^> nicomachus: you could always run it with dd if= of= bs=4M conv=sync,noeror
[20:25] <lotuspsychje> !info virtualbox | angular_mike_
[20:26] <EriC^^> nicomachus: that will ignore errors and pad the blocks that have errors so the image is in sync
[20:26] <angular_mike_> lotuspsychje: sorry?
[20:26] <EriC^^> nicomachus: also 4M is way quicker than copying it 512bytes at a time
[20:26] <lotuspsychje> angular_mike_: wich ubuntu version do you have?
[20:26] <angular_mike_> lotuspsychje: 14.04 LTS
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> !info virtualbox trusty | angular_mike_
[20:27] <EriC^^> nicomachus: you could always run it with dd if= of= bs=4M conv=sync,noeror,notrunc if you're writing it to an img and not a hdd
[20:27] <angular_mike_> lotuspsychje: Ubuntu 13.04 ("Raring") / 13.10 ("Saucy") / 14.04 ("Trusty") / 14.10 ("Utopic") / 15.04 ("Vivid") i386 | AMD64
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> angular_mike_: its reccomended to install virtualbox version, for your ubuntu version
[20:27] <nicomachus> EriC^^: Oh well, it's done now.
[20:27] <angular_mike_> lotuspsychje: the virtualbox website suggested that package for my version
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> angular_mike_: and ubuntu suggests to use version from official repo
[20:30] <angular_mike_> lotuspsychje: it had some incompatibilities with extensions
[20:30] <lotuspsychje> angular_mike_: wich one?
[20:31] <angular_mike_> lotuspsychje: VirtualBox 4.3.28 Oracle VM VirtualBox Extension Pack I think, software center wouldn't let me install it over virtualbox
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> angular_mike_: use packages for trusty only mate
[20:32] <angular_mike_> lotuspsychje: but, there's a lot of stuff not available in ubuntu repos
[20:38] <mitfree> Anyone know? Which canonical resource should I use first when experiencing an issue with a ubuntu 14.04 server?
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> mitfree ask your question here, for a start
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> mitfree however, we're volunteers, not canonical employees
[20:39] <angular_mike_> mitfree: are you talking about URL?
[20:40] <angular_mike_> Canonical URL
[20:40] <lotuspsychje> angular_mike_: apt-cache search virtualbox show a few things
[20:40] <angular_mike_> lotuspsychje: what do they show?
[20:41] <steloran_> METALER IN ##PHYSICS AND ##NOT-PHYSICS IS METALEER THE CUNT IS BACK
[20:42] <nicomachus> lol wat?
[20:42] <k1l_> nicomachus: dont mind the trolls :)
[20:42] <nicomachus> someone's gotta break the monotony of the workday. :)
[20:42] <lotuspsychje> angular_mike_: check in your terminal :p
[20:43] <angular_mike_> lotuspsychje: the virtualbox I've got installed right now is the one from Software Center, do you still want it?
[20:43] <nicomachus> not that I'm an expert at all, lotuspsychje, but isn't it better for him to ask what a command does before typing it blindly into a terminal?
[20:44] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: apt-cache search is pretty harmless mate
[20:44] <angular_mike_> nicomachus: `search` couldn't hurt, could it?
[20:44] <nicomachus> still doesn't hurt to ask.... but carry on
[20:44] <lotuspsychje> angular_mike_: want what?
[20:44] * nicomachus slinks away
[20:45] <angular_mike_> lotuspsychje: the output
[20:45] <mitfree> angular_mike_: By resourse I mean.. irc, forum, man page, wiki, mailing list.. etc. My issue maybe a bit involved. So are you guys recomending people come here before those other resources. It's been awhile since I've used ubuntu.
[20:45] <lotuspsychje> angular_mike_: no mate that was for you, as you asked before for extensions..
[20:46] <lotuspsychje> mitfree: the #ubuntu-server guys might be able to help?
[20:46] <k1l_> mitfree: so you mean: "i have an issue with ubuntu, where to get help?" or are we talking about paid canonical support?
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> mitfree type /j #ubuntu-server, ask your question there
[20:47] <angular_mike_> lotuspsychje: oh, so what will it do?
[20:47] <lotuspsychje> angular_mike_: search all packages on the text 'virtualbox'
[20:47] <lotuspsychje> angular_mike_: i tought maybe it shows relevant packages you search for?
[20:47] <angular_mike_> lotuspsychje: no, I mean what use is it for me?
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> angular_mike_: you named a virtualbox extension before
[20:48] <angular_mike_> mitfree: I'm no expert, but I don't think they provide support, unless you're a paying customer
[20:48] <angular_mike_> lotuspsychje: oh, ok
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> angular_mike_: and maybe the #vbox guys can also point you deeper to your needs
[20:50] <mitfree> k1l_: Right, I don't mean paid support. You know how some distros say search the mailing list first... If I recall, ubuntu used to have a pretty big forum community, but I'm going back a few years. Things might hace changed.
[20:50] <PCatinean> Hey guys, i wanted to install the ubuntu-restricted-extras and also accepted the EULA with the fonts now I want to chuck them away
[20:50] <PCatinean> how can one do that?
[20:50] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean: hit TAB
[20:50] <angular_mike_> mitfree: then I guess you're looking for Ubuntu community support, not from Canonical
[20:51] <PCatinean> lotuspsychje, it's already done, now I want to revert it :(
[20:51] <PCatinean> I read about it only after
[20:51] <angular_mike_> mitfree: they've still got a forum, last time I checked
[20:51] <k1l_> mitfree: its your choice if irc, mailinglists, ubuntuforums, discourse or askubuntu suits you best
[20:51] <angular_mike_> mitfree: as well as an IRC chat
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> mitfree simply ask your question, then we can answer and give directions
[20:51] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean: you want to uninstall restricted-extras?
[20:51] <angular_mike_> mitfree: #ubuntu
[20:51] <k1l_> mitfree: there even is the possibility to ask a question on launchpad
[20:53] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean: what are you trying to do mate?
[20:56] <PCatinean> lotuspsychje, when installing the ubuntu-restricted-extras, I accepted EULA whatever and it installed the fonts and change the fonts, now I just want to remove those
[20:57] <EriC^^> PCatinean: try sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-restricted-extras , maybe
[20:57] <PCatinean> that will remove everything except the fonts EriC^^ from what I see in the list
[20:57] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean: why dont you change the font to what you like?
[20:57] <PCatinean> gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse libavcodec-extra libfaac0 libmjpegutils-2.1-0 libmpeg2encpp-2.1-0 libmplex2-2.1-0
[20:57] <PCatinean> that's all
[20:57] <OerHeks> i would try ' sudo apt-get purge ttf-mscorefonts-installer'
[20:57] <PCatinean> lotuspsychje, I just want the standard one, dunno which one is that
[20:58] <PCatinean> OerHeks, that sounds like something better
[20:58] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean: the fonts, are just extras mate
[20:58] <PCatinean> it said installing fonts, not sure if it updated as well
[20:58] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean: some microsoft fonts in there, some users need
[20:58] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean: that doesnt mean its gonna change font in your ubuntu
[20:59] <OerHeks> some programs want those, especially those containers
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> deformations in documents may occur, if you don't have the same or right fonts
[20:59] <lotuspsychje> i think verdana font sticks in there
[21:00] <PCatinean> brb
[21:00] <PCatinean> thanks guys!
[21:02] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: good evening mate
[21:03] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: o/ .. Yeah Good one .If it is not a good day, let us make it a good day.
[21:20] <Guest9568> :q
[21:21] <awsumatt> Hey I'm having trouble with an Asus R9 270, does anyone know how to help?
[21:21] <reisio> awsumatt: yup
[21:23] <awsumatt> I have tried everything and looked everywhere and spent hours trying to fix this. I'm kind of a new, I mean I've been using Linux for about a year now so I know a little but nothing crazy. Anyways I just got an Asus R9 270 (https://www.asus.com/us/Graphics_Cards/R9270DC2OC2GD5/) and Catalyst detects it but doesn't use it. All I get is a black screen when I plug into it. However the Xorg driver works and Ubuntu only displays the boo
[21:24] <awsumatt> *my integrated graphics
[21:25] <Bashing-om> reisio: Bug reported; info and a solution : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2244700 ; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2278589 . Maybe of some help .
[21:27] <Bashing-om> awsumatt: ^^ . Sorry reisio .. Do not recal what I did to highlight you .
[21:27] <reisio> transposed a msg I sent to awsumatt, probs
[21:27] <reisio> the human mind is a dangerous thing :p
[21:28] <Bashing-om> reisio: :) especially so when I take it out and play with it .
[21:28] <N1ch0l4s> Hey, I'm a bit of a network noob, and I have a DNS issue.
[21:29] <awsumatt> Thanks, I will try that stuff
[21:30] <N1ch0l4s> I connect to the internet through a wireless AP. I'm configuring another linux host, and I'm hooked up to it through ethernet. By fiddling with network settings I can ping my wireless gateway and the ethernet connected linux host, but DNS fails. disconnecting ethernet solves this.
[21:30] <brandonp> I just installed Ubuntu for the first time
[21:30] <brandonp> I like it a lot.
[21:31] <k1l_> brandonp: good to hear
[21:31] <brandonp> I have a question though, so the first thing I did was "sudo apt-get update"
[21:31] <brandonp> then "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[21:31] <izi> please help me to learn english langauge
[21:31] <k1l_> izi: try in #english
[21:32] <brandonp> then I typed "sudo apt-get install" -- does this last install prompt do anything?
[21:32] <izi> sudo apt-get install english
[21:32] <izi> not work
[21:32] <brandonp> or do i have to preface it with a package, like "sudo apt-get install git"
[21:32] <k1l_> brandonp: no that will not install something. you need to specify a package (or several packages)
[21:32] <brandonp> ah ok thanks
[21:33] <EriC^^> brandonp: if you want to upgrade all the packages, including the kernel, use sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:33] <brandonp> ohhh
[21:33] <k1l_> brandonp: and with "just" apt-get upgrade you might miss some updates. better use "sudo apt update" and "sudo apt full-upgrade"
[21:33] <brandonp> ok thanks
[21:34] <brandonp> "sudo apt-get install -f" doesn't do anything either right?
[21:34] <k1l_> they tried to reduce the confusing naming with the new apt command
[21:34] <k1l_> brandonp: dont use that out of nowhere.
[21:34] <brandonp> Oopa
[21:34] <brandonp> Oops*
[21:34] <k1l_> that install -f is needed if something went wrong and you want to force (-f) the install
[21:35] <brandonp> Ah ok. I w as just typing in random prompts trying to fix my wifi. But I just installed that kernel you told me about and it fixed it. Lol.
[21:35] <EriC^^> brandonp: it checks for any problems and broken dependencies
[21:35] <_NOLUNCH> i have a blank folder with unreadable size in BYTEs named /root in my phone. anyone knows how much is the size and how may i use this block folder to increase ram?
[21:36] <_NOLUNCH> i have a blank folder with unreadable size in BYTEs named /root in my phone. anyone knows how much is the size and how may i use this block folder to increase ram?
[21:36] <TheChips> years ago, I used to use ubuntu, but I didn't use the latest version because the latest version ran a little slower. nowadays, which version of ubuntu do folks use when they want a recentish, but low resource usage ubuntu for their crappy ancient netbook?
[21:36] <EriC^^> ( and tries to fix them brandonp )
[21:36] <brandonp> Understood, thanks EriC^^
[21:36] <k1l_> !lubuntu | TheChips
[21:37] <EriC^^> brandonp: no problem
[21:37] <k1l_> TheChips: and then start with the 14.04 LTS version
[21:37] <izi> why i cant join to another server
[21:37] <buzain> TheChips: i run xubuntu on my 5 years old dell studio laptop and it works fine
[21:38] <_NOLUNCH> i have a blank folder with unreadable size in BYTEs named /root in my phone. anyone knows how much is the size and how may i use this block folder to increase ram?
[21:39] <k1l_> _NOLUNCH: ubuntu phone?
[21:39] <TheChips> fair enough, buzain . there was a noticable performance difference between versions, at the time. I think it was 10.04 or something
[21:40] <buzain> TheChips: as k1l_ suggested, use the LTS version
[21:40] <TheChips> yeah, I'll try updating to 14.04, thanks you two
[21:40] <TheChips> *LTS
[21:41] <TheChips> I could always keep the version I've got but where's the fun in that? :)
[21:42] <buzain> TheChips: I use the latest and get decent performance but mainly for browsing and email
[21:43] <Jordan_U> TheChips: Which flavor of Ubuntu 14.04 did you decide to use?
[21:43] <thomedy> okay.. so i think i have gotten to the bottom of my issue... or at least i hope... im running ffmpeg from a website... right now its local and the file name is nothing that is inputed from the user.. so just for a second. lets suspend our assumptions that it is unsafe
[21:44] <thomedy> my question is this.... i think i am not getting my output file.mp4 or whatever because my browser is running as www-data and has no permission to run ffmpeg
[21:44] <thomedy> am i right?
[21:44] <thomedy> how close to the truth is that
[21:45] <Jordan_U> thomedy: ls -l $(which ffmpeg)
[21:45] <thomedy> so you are saying i should type exactly that into command line
[21:46] <Jordan_U> thomedy: Yes. It will show you, among other things, the permissions for the ffmpeg binary. Unless you're doing something very odd it should be executable by all users.
[21:46] <thomedy> iit is in usr/local/bin
[21:46] <gt8ost4l> does anybody know how to get back the status bar in ubuntu 15.04
[21:47] <thomedy> and i compiled exactly how ffmpeg.org page said to
[21:47] <thomedy> it is from source code on ffmpeg.org or whatever
[21:47] <Jordan_U> thomedy: Why did you compile from source at all?
[21:48] <thomedy> because my ubuntu software center wasn't working
[21:48] <k1l_> depending on the ubuntu version used ffmpeg is not in the repos. avconv is always in the repo
[21:48] <thomedy> it was lacking differnet dependencies and i couldn't access the h264
[21:48] <thomedy> and all my googling said ffmpeg was the most reliable method
[21:48] <k1l_> thomedy: could use the fork of ffmpeg "avconv"
[21:48] <thomedy> avconv would hav ebeen fine but very few google searches pointed to avconv in comparison with ffmpeg
[21:49] <thomedy> so thats what i did
[21:49] <thomedy> can avconv get h264 and back again
[21:49] <Jordan_U> thomedy: Yes.
[21:49] <k1l_> !avconv
[21:49] <thomedy> can you tell me the command for it
[21:49] <thomedy> i will need h264 and flv
[21:49] <pedro__> hi can anyone tell me how to stop the pulse audio sound server?
[21:49] <Jordan_U> pedro__: What is your end goal?
[21:50] <k1l_> gt8ost4l: what status bar? the panel on the top edge?
[21:50] <gt8ost4l> no the bar that display the hard drive space
[21:51] <pedro__> Jordan_U, its to put my condenser microphone working on skype, but pulse audio is on the way
[21:51] <k1l_> thomedy: i dont know what you want to do at all but here is the manpage: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/avconv.1.html
[21:52] <k1l_> gt8ost4l: where was that bar? i dont know what you are talking about. ubuntu doesnt have that as a standard
[21:52] <luvenfu> how i use sudo inside of a bash script?
[21:53] <Jordan_U> pedro__: What makes you think that pulseaudio is "in the way"? Skype *requires* pulseaudio.
[21:53] <josharenson> Not sure if this is the correct place to ask... trying to get lightdm-qt-greeter to run, and it seems that the greeter is not talking to the lightdm server. Are there env variables that need to be set?
[21:53] <pedro__> Jordan_U, yes, but at skype sound settings i used to have "samsom usb microphone" option
[21:53] <gt8ost4l> k1l_ didnt you use ubuntu 12.04 it had it there in the taskbar
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> luvenfu same as when you type it... you can use 'sudo true' in the beginning of the script
[21:54] <pedro__> Jordan_U, thats the option thats going to give me recording sound at skype, i used to have that working
[21:54] <k1l_> gt8ost4l: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-vi3fMYU1SsE/T09a-4NQcUI/AAAAAAAAIGM/U-2d5PhdO8Q/s1600/ubuntu-12.04-precise-pangolin.png
[21:54] <brandonp> should I use "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" or "sudo apt dist-upgrade" ?
[21:55] <k1l_> brandonp: sudo apt full-upgrade
[21:55] <brandonp> Ok, thank you.
[21:55] <k1l_> brandonp: that combines the old "sudo apt-get upgrade" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[21:55] <brandonp> Two for one? Nice
[21:56] <brandonp> Is there any reason why I should just use sudo apt upgrade without dist?
[21:56] <pedro__> Jordan_U, could you gie me a hint on a good gui to configure puse audio working with my usb micro?
[21:56] <k1l_> when saying dist-upgrade some people still think it will upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10. so they got scared to run that command
[21:56] <k1l_> brandonp: apt-get upgrade will not install new packages, only update packages. but for some updates you need to install new packages (like kernel updates etc) so that cant be installed.
[21:58] <brandonp> k1l_: Ah okay, I see, it's just more control
[21:58] <k1l_> brandonp: the reasons are historically (from 10-15 years ago) and are not used like back than today. so the old differences just confuse today
[21:59] <k1l_> so "apt" instead of "apt-get" is more uptodate
[22:00] <brandonp> I understand now. 3/4 of the tutorials on the internet I'm reading use "apt-get", hah. I guess they're just used to it?
[22:00] <k1l_> brandonp: well, apt is just 1year old in ubuntu.
[22:24] <rapper97> How can I be sure I'm doing a UEFI instal? The help wiki links to an AskUbuntu answer that is far from clear.\
[22:24] <reisio> rapper97: what do you see at bootup before any OS boots?
[22:25] <rapper97> What do you mean?
[22:25] <rapper97> Nothing, really; it's a black screen and kicks straight into Windows 8 unless you hit e.g. F9.
[22:31] <Pazooza> I have a crypt-luks 1tb drive with no showing partitions in gparted. Why does update say there is not enough room in /boot? I don't see a partition for that. I have 900gig free.
[22:33] <Bashing-om> Pazooza: What does terminal command ' df -h ' tell you about "/" ?
[22:33] <Jordan_U> Pazooza: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" and "df -h".
[22:33] <Pazooza> Never mind, I see mount point /boot 243 meg size.
[22:34] <Bashing-om> Pazooza: Try terminal command ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' to remove old kernels to free up some space .
[22:36] <Pazooza> I actually used gnome-commander in root mode to delete the old kernels and headers.
[22:36] <Jordan_U> rapper97: If the directory /sys/firmware/efi/ exists then you're booted via UEFI, and the installer will therefore try to install for UEFI.
[22:37] <Pazooza> Do you suppose I could resize the /boot partition larger?
[22:37] <Jordan_U> Pazooza: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[22:37] <nicomachus> EriC^^ or pavlos: I'm trying to mount that HDD now that was 1B short on the dd, and can't: https://imgur.com/RoNGScI
[22:37] <rapper97> Jordan>> So when I boot into the live distro, look for that directory in the mounted filesystem?
[22:38] <nicomachus> output of dmesg | tails: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11698908/
[22:39] <Jordan_U> rapper97: I'm not sure what you mean by "in the mounted filesystem". Literally running "[ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS" will tell you if you're booted via UEFI.
[22:39] <nicomachus> that line about bad geometry?
[22:39] <rapper97> Jordan_U>> In the file system of the live CD/installer.
[22:40] <Jordan_U> rapper97: Yes.
[22:40] <rapper97> jordan_u ty
[22:41] <Jordan_U> rapper97: You're welcome.
[22:43] <rapper97> Will this directory also appear on the resulting instal, Jordan_U?
[22:45] <Jordan_U> rapper97: Yes. Pretty much any time you have a GNU/Linux system that has been booted via UEFI that directory will exist.
[22:46] <rapper97> So... is it, like, "virtual?" In other words, if it did not appear on an instal before, might it now?
[22:46] <rapper97> if I rebooted in UEFI mode? Or does its absence mean it wasn't installed in UEFI
[22:47] <rapper97> and thusly it can never be there.
[22:47] <rapper97> ?
[22:47] <Jordan_U> rapper97: Everything in /sys/ is "virtual". It's a way that the kernel communicates with userspace. The files exist only in memory, they are not ever stored on disk.
[22:49] <rapper97> Wow. This changes everything.
[22:52] <Koyaanis> how the hell do i use bootchart
[22:52] <Koyaanis> on 15.04
[22:53] <rapper97> "From an Ubuntu installed on the HDD (neither liveCD nor liveUSB)"
[22:53] <rapper97> (either that wasn't in the tutorial I read or I was too tired + missed it.)
[22:54] <Jordan_U> rapper97: That sentence has no meaning to me without context.
[22:54] <jkdjeff> Hi folks, support question: I just put 15.04 on a Toshiba laptop. Things are working well but my Synaptics touchpad isn't even showing up in xinput. Where to start with troubleshooting?
[22:56] <StephanX_> @jkdjeff - have a look here http://superuser.com/questions/437601/mouse-touchpad-stuck-in-ubuntu-12-04-after-resuming-from-suspend/437607#437607
[22:56] <StephanX_> also, double check that you don't have any hardware key disabling the touchpad
[22:57] <jkdjeff> hmmmmm. would that prevent it from even showing up in xinput?
[23:09] <Jordan_U> Koyaanis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootCharting
[23:10] <nicomachus> fsck says a device is busy, but it's not even mounted...
[23:11] <Jordan_U> nicomachus: Please pastebin the complete output from fsck and the contents of /proc/mounts.
[23:13] <nicomachus> fsck: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11699044/ and /proc/mounts: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11699045/
[23:13] <nicomachus> Jordan_U: fyi, it's a crypto_luks partition
[23:14] <nicomachus> crypt_luks*
[23:16] <Jordan_U> nicomachus: You can't fsck /dev/sdb5 if it's encrypted. You need to unlock it then point fsck at the /dev/mapper/ device node representing the unencrypted contents.
[23:16] <hplc> i reformatted a disk, and did set a label to my liking, but after reboot the label is changed, to a long long string of numbers and characters?, annoying, how to change it?
[23:16] <nicomachus> ah, ok
[23:17] <Jordan_U> nicomachus: But before you do that, please explain what your end goal is. What problem are you having that's leading you to want to run fsck?
[23:17] <nicomachus> Jordan_U: the boot partition on this had a corrupted superblock and I had to restore from a backup, so I was just trying to the same here.
[23:17] <nicomachus> I was going to check it first with fsck, then restore the backup if need be
[23:18] <nicomachus> see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11699013/
[23:21] <Jordan_U> nicomachus: OK. Have you checked the S.M.A.R.T. status of the drive to see if it might be failing?
[23:21] <nicomachus> Jordan_U: this is a cloned image off of a failing drive.
[23:22] <nicomachus> trying to repair the damage now and recover fiels.
[23:22] <nicomachus> files
[23:22] <hplc> the "prompt" is so long it going all across the screen
[23:23] <Jordan_U> nicomachus: Ahh, so you were the person to whom I recommended GNU ddrescue. Did you end up using GNU ddrescue? How many blocks was it not able to recover, if any?
[23:23] <hplc> can the label be changed with parted?, without breaking anything?
[23:23] <nicomachus> don't think that was me. sorry.
[23:23] <Jordan_U> nicomachus: OK, then it was another person with a failing drive using LUKS within the past few days :)
[23:24] <nicomachus> here's the crypt partition fsck output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11699078/
[23:24] <nicomachus> yikes.
[23:24] <Jordan_U> nicomachus: How did you clone the drive?
[23:24] <nicomachus> dd. took all night.
[23:24] <nicomachus> I was later informed there were better options. oh well.
[23:25] <ObrienDave> you went with dd any way? there are easier option ;P
[23:25] <nicomachus> yea, hey, thanks! where were ya last night! lol
[23:26] <Jordan_U> nicomachus: Did dd report any read errors?
[23:26] <ObrienDave> your buddy decided he wanted to show you the "right" way LOL
[23:26] <nicomachus> no, except the if was 1 byte larger than the of
[23:27] <Jordan_U> nicomachus: And both the if and of were drives?
[23:28] <nicomachus> one was an internal 3.5 and the other was an external 2.5, but both were 1TB
[23:28] <nicomachus> both toshiba, too, actually. haha
[23:29] <nicomachus> ahhhh it's not liking any of these backup superblocks..
[23:29] <Jordan_U> nicomachus: That's very odd. No drive should have a size that is anything but a multiple of 512 bytes.
[23:31] <nicomachus> not sure what you mean
[23:32] <ObrienDave> 512 is the smallest sector size. all drives are multiples of 512 in capacity
[23:33] <nicomachus> yea, I get that part. what's his point?
[23:33] <ObrienDave> one drive can't be 1 byte different from the other
[23:34] <ObrienDave> multiples of 512 yes, not 1
[23:34] <nicomachus> yea I should have screenshotted that.
[23:34] <nicomachus> it was like 6am this morning.
[23:34] <ObrienDave> been there, done that :)
[23:34] <nicomachus> and I was just walking past the computer to go get in the shower and leave for work. ahah
[23:35] <gt8ost4l> does anybody know where the system diretory is
[23:35] <Jordan_U> gt8ost4l: What is your end goal?
[23:36] <gt8ost4l> im installing drivers i need to know where system>administration
[23:37] <Jordan_U> nicomachus: Encryption will multiply corruption. A basic characteristic of encryption is that a one bit change in the input (per encrypted block) should cause a seemingly random change in all of the other bits in that block.
[23:37] <nicomachus> Jordan_U: this entire fiasco has turned me soooo far away from favoring encryption..
[23:38] <nicomachus> I mean, jesus... I could have had this fixed 2 weeks ago without it.
[23:38] <nicomachus> >insert boot-repair live cd >click ok >reboot >enjoy.
[23:41] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: Sounds like old documentation from the 10.04 era . What release are you running ? We now have command line tools to install drivers. What returns ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' .
[23:42] <gt8ost4l> i need your help its not just inf files its sys and another inf
[23:42] <gt8ost4l> im running 15.04
[23:43] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: Huh ? Are you compiling from source ?
[23:43] <gt8ost4l> no im using ndiswrapper
[23:44] <gt8ost4l> what that compiles it from source?
[23:45] <Jordan_U> gt8ost4l: Do *not* use NDISWrapper.
[23:46] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: Not done ndiswrapper, so that lets me out . In 15.04 what is the problem that you can not use the drivers in the software repository .
[23:46] <gt8ost4l> i cant connect to my router from ym other laptop so i need to install the drivers
[23:47] <Jordan_U> gt8ost4l: What wireless card are you using? Is it internal or external (USB)?
[23:47] <gt8ost4l> internal
[23:49] <Jordan_U> gt8ost4l: Please pastebin the output of "lspci -vnn".
[23:51] <gt8ost4l> http://pastebin.com/YQnRdbYq
[23:53] <Jordan_U> gt8ost4l: You have an Atheros card which is very well supported by open drives, which are included in Ubuntu by default (and are currently in use). You do *not* need any more drivers, and installing NDISWrapper is likely to break the drivers you already have.
[23:54] <Jordan_U> gt8ost4l: What happens when you try to connect to your wireless network?
[23:54] <gt8ost4l> it shows no wireless connections
[23:55] <Jordan_U> gt8ost4l: Please pastebin the output of "nm-tool".
[23:56] <gt8ost4l> its not found
[23:56] <gt8ost4l> just show me how to install the drivers
[23:57] <Jordan_U> gt8ost4l: You already have the proper drivers installed.
[23:57] <Jordan_U> gt8ost4l: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[23:57] <gt8ost4l> i told the other guy already
[23:57] <gt8ost4l> 15.04
[23:59] <Jordan_U> gt8ost4l: "nm-tool" is included by default, did you mistype it?
[23:59] <gt8ost4l> nope i did what you said
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[14:10] <wangshidong> helloworld
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[14:55] <balloons> brendand, I was working with elopio on documenting the unity8 autopilot test helpers -- do you know what the status of getting those in the package are?
[14:55] <balloons> I assume this falls under your team's realm now :-)
[14:57] <brendand> balloons, you'll have to catch me up
[15:02] <elopio> balloons: brendand: this has not landed yet: https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/unity8/fix1306340-deprecate_emulators
[15:16] <balloons> elopio, do you plan to hand that off?
[15:17] <elopio> balloons: I thought it was approved on the 28 when I requested the review and it had all the autopilot tests passing.
[15:18] <elopio> right now, yes, that needs some love to be merged with trunk again.
[15:18] <elopio> brendand, rhuddie: can one of you take care of that? ^
[15:22] <brendand> elopio, i put my approval now, but i'll have to find out what's up with the tests again
[15:23] <rhuddie> elopio, brendand, we can add a task to follow up with this one
[15:23] <brendand> rhuddie, i added one
[15:23] <balloons> thanks guys!
[15:24] <balloons> just let me know when it lands, so we can import it!
[15:29] <elopio> brendand: rhuddie: take into account that with the namespace change, your system tests might have to be updated.
[15:30] <elopio> I tried to keep an alias from the old namespace everywhere, but...
[17:11] <dkessel> good evening
[18:07] <svij> balloons: hey
[18:08] <balloons> svij, hello
[18:09] <svij> balloons: thx for your answer to my mail. :) Anyway I still don't know which task of your looong list (http://people.canonical.com/~nskaggs/core-apps-test-sponsoring.html) shouldn't be too hard for the beginning ;)
[18:09] <balloons> svij, yes, and I think that might be a popey question. In the interim, I would get everything on your end setup and make sure you can make changes to a test and run them
[18:09] <svij> yes, that should work
[18:10] <balloons> pick a project and let's run it. Something like the calendar or calculator is good because it doesn't require compilation.. it's pure qml
[18:10] <svij> so, everthing *should* be set up correctly, if I didn't miss anything
[18:10] <balloons> branch and run tests
[18:10] <balloons> lp:ubuntu-calculator-app or lp:ubuntu-calendar-app
[18:10] <svij> ok
[18:21] <svij> balloons: do I need to do more than just running qmltestrunner on the calculator-app? It says: "/home/svij/Repositories/ubuntu-calculator-app/tests/unit/tst_hellocomponent.qml:4,1: "../../components": no such directory"
[18:21] <svij> and there is no components folder obviously
[18:39] <balloons> svij, interesting I get the same issue
[18:39] <svij> yay, not my fault. ;)
[18:40] <balloons> svij, looks like the unit tests in there are just an example file
[18:40] <balloons> hehe, so it's fine
[18:40] <svij> ah, i see
[18:40] <svij> the tests from the calender-app are running fine…
[18:40] <balloons> brillant
[18:44] <svij> so I will wait for popey for now.
[18:46] <balloons> svij, well let's have a browse through the bugs together
[18:46] <svij> ok
[18:49] <balloons> svij, what about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+bug/1410986
[18:49] <svij> doesn't look too complicated for the beginning, right?
[18:50] <balloons> svij, no I don't think so. And calculator is a pretty simple app
[18:50] <svij> good :)
[18:50] <balloons> there's a big test suite in calculator already, so that should help
[18:50] <balloons> you can glean from the other tests
[18:50] <svij> that's good
[18:53] <svij> a couple of the weather-app tests doesn't look complicated either for the start
[18:56] <svij> or do you have any other bugs for me, balloons ?
[18:57] <svij> will try to do something tomorrow
[19:12] <balloons> svij, I would agree on weather also
[19:12] <balloons> try either or / both and see what happens
[19:12] <svij> ok :)
[19:12] <balloons> feel free to reach out to the development teams as well, they are more up to date on needs than any of us obviously
[19:12] <balloons> they'd love to hear from you
[19:13] <svij> yeah, first I need some simple tasks, than I'll see. :)
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-cn
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[00:13] <^k^> pity: 拜p哥
[00:13] <^k^> pity: 拜p哥
[00:14] <pity> ^k^: kk automatic double bai le
[00:59] <jiero> happyaron, 壕，还是佳能好 http://www.magiclantern.fm/ 能被黑
[00:59] <ubrl> jiero: ⇪ Magic Lantern | Home
[01:01] <^k^> 新 窗口管理器 • vbox装win7 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471225 配置成这样 2.png 运行，选安装sp1 1.png 就不动了 zz: 873944287 — 2015-06-11 8:59
[01:04] <^k^> iIlL10Oo: 拜kk他爸
[01:04] <^k^> iIlL10Oo: 拜kk他爸
[01:29] <^k^> 新 服务器维护和硬件相关 • 旁路干扰，及iptables抵挡方法？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471226 http://xsk.tehon.org/den/index.php/category/tech/tcp-bypass-hijacking-feature-and-recognization.html 问题： 1.怎样设置iptable防火墙规则，抵挡ISP旁路干扰http劫持？ zz: DnsUB — 2015-06-11 9:29
[01:36] <^k^> 新 笔记本、UMPC支持 • 声音输出默认HDMI，无声！！！！！！！！！！！！ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471227 http://www.linuxidc.com/Linux/2014-07/104825.htm 按照上面的方法改了无效。 还是这样 求大神帮助 zz: zty899910 — 2015-06-11 9:35
[02:16] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: http://news.smzdm.com/p/14087 这货 299$ 的话是个不错的机器啊
[02:16] <ubrl> BuMangHuo: ⇪ 全画幅大底 + 28mm定焦：Leica 徕卡 发布 徕卡Q 全画幅定焦机_新品_资讯中心_什么值得买
[02:18] <BuMangHuo> momo happyaron HowIsItGoing cherrot yunfan freeflying
[02:22] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, momo
[02:23] <BuMangHuo> 额，还是发现 msata+ hdd 方便
[02:29] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.04 • 空间不够怎么清理 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471228 已经删除了软件缓存 问题是大头在/home下面 l Code: ujb@Ubuntu-PC:/$ sudo du -sh /home/* 89G /home/lujb lujb@Ubuntu-PC:/$ sudo du -sh /home/lujb/* 4.0K /home/lujb/Audiobooks 4.0K /home/lujb/Desktop 6.3G /home/lujb/Documents 245M
[02:29] <^k^> ─> /home/lujb/Downloads 12K /home/lujb/examples.desktop 4.0K /home/lujb/Music 4.0K /home/lujb/Pictures 4. …
[02:36] <jiero> 。。为什么 yunfan 我从你的频道断开？
[02:41] <^k^> 新 虚拟机和虚拟化 • vbox装win7 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471229 配置 1.png 安装win7 sp1 2.png 不能动了 zz: 873944287 — 2015-06-11 10:40
[02:44] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.04 • 14.04 LTS直接升级到15.04后 不能重启和关机 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471231 14.04 LTS直接升级到15.04后 不能重启和关机 输入任何的重启、关机命令，都提示： Code: $ sudo shutdown -r now [b]Failed to talk to init daemon.[/b] zz: chuangsheng — 2015-06-11 10:44
[02:45] <jiero> 然并卵
[02:48] <BuMangHuo> 笔记本机械硬盘啥靠谱？ cc iMadper yunfan
[02:49] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 东芝
[02:49] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 不管啥，希捷除非质保5年，否则不靠谱
[02:50] <BuMangHuo> jiero: 今天发现硬盘 /home 只有 2G 了
[02:50] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 希捷丫的知道生产线的优劣，把劣质的都放低保质期区
[02:50] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 我早发现我不拍照拍视频，用不了多少
[02:51] <BuMangHuo> jiero: 我拍照、拍视频，我还听 hifi....
[02:51] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 但你才用了2G？
[02:51] <BuMangHuo> jiero: 剩 2g
[02:51] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 你丫的是用100万像素么？
[02:51] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 哦。好吧。
[02:52] <BuMangHuo> jiero: 其实主要是以前一直在移动硬盘放，懒得每次挂个移动硬盘了
[02:52] <jiero> BuMangHuo - 设定主动同步删除？
[02:52] <wiiw> BuMangHuo: 我的 /home 不单独分区， 都是 ln -s
[02:53] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 网络同步也可以啊，你用你那强大的路由挂硬盘，
[02:53] <wiiw> 淘宝上面的 T420 靠谱吗？ 2000元左右
[02:53] <jiero> wiiw, 还好丫。
[02:53] <wiiw> jiero: 我打算买一个玩玩
[02:53] <jiero> wiiw, 就是翻新拆机的
[02:54] <jiero> wiiw, 我公司没有一台新电脑 - 30多台二手thinkpad
[02:54] <wiiw> jiero: 你们公司真有钱
[02:54] <jiero> wiiw, 还没有 t420那么新的，最新的好像就是 t510
[02:54] <jiero> t410
[02:54] <jiero> wiiw, 用二手的算有钱意思？
[02:54] <jiero> 物尽其用吧。
[02:54] <wiiw> jiero: 30多台，算多的
[02:55] <jiero> wiiw, 其实早就卖了挺多了 - 淘汰的 t60 t61 t43
[02:55] <jiero> 没有30多了。
[02:55] <jiero> 哦 t42
[02:56] <wiiw> 哪个最轻便
[02:56] <wiiw> 打算8月买一台
[02:57] <jiero> wiiw, 直接买新的好了 - 美国的。。。
[02:58] <jiero> wiiw, 等特价就买好了 ---
[02:58] <jiero> wiiw, 轻便的丫意思，不看尺寸？
[03:01] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.04 • 空间不够怎么清理 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471233 已经删除了软件缓存 问题是大头在/home下面 l Code: ujb@Ubuntu-PC:/$ sudo du -sh /home/* 89G /home/lujb lujb@Ubuntu-PC:/$ sudo du -sh /home/lujb/* 4.0K /home/lujb/Audiobooks 4.0K /home/lujb/Desktop 6.3G /home/lujb/Documents 245M
[03:01] <^k^> ─> /home/lujb/Downloads 12K /home/lujb/examples.desktop 4.0K /home/lujb/Music 4.0K /home/lujb/Pictures 4. …
[03:13] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: http://www.computeruniverse.net/products/90528906/hp-proliant-microserver-gen8-712317-421.asp 这个
[03:13] <ubrl> iMadper: ⇪ HP ProLiant Microserver Gen8 712317-421 - Server - computeruniverse
[03:13] <BuMangHuo> test
[03:13] <ubrl> BuMangHuo:点点点. 23:13
[03:13] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: ...
[03:13] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 我讲真啊
[03:14] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 你给你的笔记本里面装个这背着走，我就下单
[03:15] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 你还要随身背着???
[03:15] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 何苦呢
[03:15] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 笔记本硬盘啊
[03:15] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 在外面也通过网络访问就好了啊
[03:15] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 笔记本硬盘
[03:15] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 你现在ssd, 换成hdd多坑
[03:15] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 现在是 msata + ssd 嘛
[03:15] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 换成 msata + hdd 呗
[03:16] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: ... ... msata + ssd都不够空间了?
[03:16] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 128 + 128
[03:17] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 放点儿 ape，flac, 在放点儿 raw 照片就满满的了啊
[03:17] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: raw太大...
[03:17] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 我把我40g的flac都删了...
[03:17] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 硬盘不够了也？
[03:20] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 是啊.
[03:21] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 你要放无损/raw之类的东西, ssd肯定是满足不了的
[03:21] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 笔记本硬盘, 买东芝吧. 东芝性能算是比较好的了
[03:21] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 对啊，所以我找个 1t 的 hdd 得了
[03:21] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 不行吧, 你是x230?
[03:21] <BuMangHuo> 西数怎么样
[03:21] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 对啊
[03:21] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: x230是7mm吧?
[03:21] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 对吧？
[03:21] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 1t的难道不是9mm的?
[03:22] <BuMangHuo> 是么
[03:22] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 还是现在有7mm的1t了都?
[03:22] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 给我链接, 我帮你看看
[03:22] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1-c.w4004-6787271703.3.n3ROeE&id=19021883479
[03:22] <ubrl> BuMangHuo: ⇪ 盒装HGST/日立 HTS721010A9E630 1T笔记本硬盘1TB2.5寸 7200转32M-淘宝网
[03:22] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 标准9.5mm厚度。
[03:22] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 买屁!
[03:22] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 230 不能搞 9.5 的？
[03:22] <BuMangHuo> 只能 7？
[03:22] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 当然不行了
[03:23] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 是啊.
[03:23] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 那意思是，只能 500
[03:23] <BuMangHuo> G 的了？
[03:23] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.5-c.w4002-6787271725.29.8GoK0R&id=36873995138
[03:23] <ubrl> iMadper: ⇪ HGST 日立HTS541010A7E630 1T/1TB2.5寸笔记本硬盘5400转32M/7MM-淘宝网 pp: 429.00
[03:23] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 贵一些... 如果你需要1t的
[03:23] <BuMangHuo> 还是 5400 的
[03:24] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 对
[03:24] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 笔记本还是5400的好吧...
[03:24] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 转越快, 死越快...
[03:24] <BuMangHuo> 7200 还快？
[03:25] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 对. 但是实际测试, 东芝的5400比wd的7200快....
[03:25] <BuMangHuo> 额
[03:47] <jiero> iMadper BuMangHuo 不一定多么样丫。技术问题，我的 320GB 7200转传输速度是 95MB/s呢。
[03:47] <BuMangHuo> jiero: 啥？
[03:47] <jiero> iMadper BuMangHuo 160GB 同期的东芝5400转传输速度才 50不到。
[03:48] <wiiw> jiero: 美国特价啥时候会有？
[03:48] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 不是说笔记本机械硬盘么
[03:48] <BuMangHuo> jiero: 对啊
[03:48] <jiero> wiiw, 你丫的找推送啊
[03:48] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 我2010年买的 wd 7200转
[03:48] <BuMangHuo> jiero: 我这里有个 2010 年的 5400 的 wd
[03:49] <BuMangHuo> 其实我也忘了是 7200 还是 5400 了
[03:49] <BuMangHuo> 从标签上看不出来吧
[03:49] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 新一代的密度大，速度快。
[03:49] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 肯定能看出来，肯定linux系统标签就能出来吧。。。
[03:49] <wiiw> jiero: 哦
[03:50] <jiero> wiiw, 肯定不止 2000就是了
[03:50] <wiiw> 嗯。。
[03:50] <wiiw> 吃饭了
[03:51] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 告诉我现在的 笔记本硬盘传输速度是多少？
[03:51] <BuMangHuo> 不知道
[03:51] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 你不是在用么？你用的是 SSD？
[03:51] <BuMangHuo> jiero: 我这个 wd 的 500g 硬盘，装在 usb3 的移动硬盘盒里面，写入速度是 55M/s
[03:52] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 垃圾丫。。。
[03:52] <BuMangHuo> jiero: 这是移动硬盘盒主控太渣吧
[03:52] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 我姥爷2012年买了一个usb2.0的移动硬盘，用了两次，坏了。保修，换来一个usb3.0的。写入速度105mb/s
[03:53] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 希捷的
[03:54] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 那时候我就知道我台式机里用的酷鱼 7200.7 有多么落后了 - 60MB/s就算好了！
[03:54] <jiero> 80GB的总容量 -
[03:55] <jiero> 算了 - 好无聊
[03:55] <jiero> 无限用不上的东西
[03:55] <BuMangHuo> 。。
[03:58] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 我发现我身边的东西我能用好的没有什么 - 游戏鼠标我不玩游戏了。
[03:59] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu中文衍生版 • (2015-06-11)Ubuntu-14.04.2-mini-zh(简体中文极简版) http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471234 此版本以Ubuntu Core 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr)为设计原型，从官方最小化底层开始打包制作而成，适合中国大陆地区的桌面型，笔记本等电脑使用，具有以下功能： 1 针对官方原版微内
[03:59] <BuMangHuo> jiero: 送我送我
[03:59] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 你要买7mm 1t的那个?
[03:59] <BuMangHuo> jiero: 算了，游戏鼠标我也用不到
[03:59] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 手机能玩3D游戏，能接到机顶盒上玩游戏，我也没用过
[03:59] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 不知道哪个靠谱啊
[03:59] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 都差不多
[03:59] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 只有7mm的靠谱... 9.5买来用不了....
[03:59] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 不要希捷，我疯了希捷的
[04:00] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 5400 怕太慢
[04:00] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 本来也是放大文件的吧?
[04:00] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 不会的，现在的技术 5400转也能上到 110MB/s
[04:00] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 当仓库.
[04:00] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 何况重点还是寻道时间吧
[04:00] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 也打算装个 win7 或者虚拟机进去啊
[04:00] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 加上你的垃圾 移动硬盘也没那速度
[04:01] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 哦...
[04:01] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 那还是机械硬盘好？繁琐的操作难道不是盘片硬盘比固态硬盘性能高？
[04:02] <BuMangHuo> jiero: 我的需求是容量嘛
[04:02] * jiero 这种无聊的无依据的说法来自于 - 各种flash卡 - 同时写入+读取慢的死一样
[04:02] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 容量+可靠性。买那些质保5年的就好了。
[04:03] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 没有5年的就买3年质保的。
[04:07] <BuMangHuo> jiero: 我再看看，1t 的 7mm 的盘还真不多
[04:07] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 五年的只有WD黑盘。
[04:07] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 别从京东看。
[04:11] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 结果中国没上市 - 所以没有
[04:11] <jiero> 没质保
[04:11] <iMadper> ...
[04:25] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 看起来要 1t 的话，只能这个了
[04:29] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 是啊, 没关系, 挺好的了
[04:30] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 你这笔记本最多再用三年?
[04:30] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 估计最多也就 3 年
[04:30] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 对啊, 那就够了
[04:30] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 临时的过度解决方案
[04:31] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43630335146
[04:31] <ubrl> BuMangHuo: ⇪ HGST/日立 HTS541010A7E630 7mm 5400转 1TB超薄笔记本硬盘包邮-淘宝网
[04:31] <BuMangHuo> 哎这家便宜 1 元哎，赞
[04:32] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 买买买
[04:35] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 看邮费
[04:35] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 万一这家邮费贵呢?~ lol~
[04:39] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 其实我还有10G的电子书, 各大计算机相关的出版社最近两年的作品能收集的都收集了
[04:39] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 哎, 没空间了啊
[04:42] <BuMangHuo> 不过这家店铺的名字，一眼看上去，跟卖地摊衣服的一眼
[04:42] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 你来推荐个硬盘
[04:42] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: HD还是SSD?
[04:42] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 7mm 的 2.5寸 hdd
[04:44] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 什么接口?
[04:44] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: x230 的，我也不太清楚是啥接口来着
[04:44] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: x230应该是sata
[04:45] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: http://item.jd.com/985387.html
[04:45] <ubrl> O0XX|Qiong: ⇪ 【西部数据WD20NPVX】西部数据(WD)绿盘 2TB SATA6Gb/s 8M 笔记本硬盘(WD20NPVX)【行情 报价 价格 评测】-京东
[04:45] <BuMangHuo> 2T？
[04:45] <QiongMangHuo> 你们有要买啥?
[04:45] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 不对, 这个是15mm的
[04:45] <BuMangHuo> ...
[04:45] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 硬盘啊
[04:45] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 你要买啥?
[04:45] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 买来干啥?
[04:46] * BuMangHuo 求送闲置硬盘
[04:46] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 多大的?
[04:46] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 1T
[04:46] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 哦 那没有
[04:47] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 乃的硬盘多大？
[04:47] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 笔记本的320 移动硬盘500
[04:47] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 哎，你的本儿就是 x230 对吧
[04:47] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 对
[04:47] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.04 • 15.04 amd x64 如何安装hd5450显卡驱动 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471235 现在的分辨率是1024x768，想改成1366x768，应该怎么做？开源驱动最高分辨率就到1024x768吗？ zz: hilario — 2015-06-11 12:46
[04:47] <BuMangHuo> 320? ssd?
[04:47] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 准备卖了
[04:47] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: hd
[04:47] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 然后买啥
[04:47] <BuMangHuo> x1c?
[04:47] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 买个14寸的超级本, 具体要求不高
[04:49] <BuMangHuo> 好像 1T 的 7mm 盘只有 5400 转的了
[04:52] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 暂时 x230 还蛮好用的
[04:53] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 小, 厚
[04:53] * QiongMangHuo 的x230还有半年过保
[04:55] <QiongMangHuo> Destine: 你怎么啥都点赞
[04:56] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 卖给你
[04:56] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: ...
[04:56] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 笔记本的5400够了吧?
[04:56] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 我要俩 x230 搞啥
[04:56] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 而且是一样配置的...
[04:56] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: xps 13
[04:56] <Destine> QiongMangHuo, 我点什么了？
[04:57] <QiongMangHuo> Destine: 微信啊
[04:57] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 怎么可能一样配置
[04:57] <Destine> QiongMangHuo, 我点的都是我觉得赞的啊。。。
[04:57] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 收了吧, 我的有保
[04:57] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: .. 别闹
[04:57] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 你的手机能刷CM12么？
[04:57] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 你的不也是 i5?
[04:57] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 从不刷机
[04:58] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 我刚好相反，从来不信官方
[04:58] <Destine> QiongMangHuo, 为什么感觉自己做错了事情。。。
[04:58] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 自己找罪受, 然后再抱怨安卓就是刷机刷机刷机么?
[04:58] <QiongMangHuo> Destine: 没有啊!
[04:59] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 你也用过moto，你懂是什么倒霉状况
[04:59] <Destine> QiongMangHuo, 哦，那我是可以点赞的吧？
[05:00] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 你要买 xps13？那比 x230 大不了多少啊
[05:00] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 啥手机? 剁手兴的话还是刷吧
[05:01] <ltk> windows开机十几秒的原因是什么
[05:01] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: ssd
[05:01] <QiongMangHuo> Destine: 我就是问问 =,=
[05:02] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 不买那个
[05:02] <Destine> QiongMangHuo, 好呢。。。我睡了啊。。。
[05:02] <QiongMangHuo> Destine: .....
[05:03] <ltk> 貌似不是ssd的原因
[05:03] <ltk> 是不是windows关机并没有真正意义上的关机？
[05:03] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/l-series/l450/ 这种二线便宜的适合我
[05:03] <ubrl> QiongMangHuo: ⇪ ThinkPad L450 Laptop | Mainstream Performer, Aggressive Pricing, Optimized for Windows 8.1 | | Lenovo US
[05:04] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 好像有点厚
[05:04] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 你居然不买 x1c
[05:05] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 太贵...
[05:05] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 或者mba =,=
[05:05] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: mba? 那货屏幕你能受的了？
[05:06] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 键盘受不了 其他都可以
[05:06] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 我这种成天醉心于工作, 一直处理邮件和代码的, 屏幕无所谓
[05:06] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: O0XX|Qiong 去砍了 QiongMangHuo 吧
[05:08] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: http://news.mydrivers.com/1/433/433088.htm
[05:08] <ubrl> QiongMangHuo: ⇪ 边框窄到爆！戴尔全新XPS 15现身-边框,超窄,笔记本,戴尔,XPS 15,-驱动之家
[05:08] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 你都看 mba 了，还在乎边框？
[05:09] <BuMangHuo> mba 的边框比 x230 还宽吧
[05:09] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 我想要14的屏幕
[05:11] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: xps 我受不了摄像头在屏幕下边...
[05:13] <BuMangHuo> 居然关注摄像头
[05:14] <BuMangHuo> 哦你要 skype
[05:15] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: mba的边框宽的感人
[05:15] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 14寸的机身放13寸的屏幕.
[05:16] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 比 14 的机身还要大吧
[05:17] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 对... 但是其他的14寸机身, 边框也不小. 所以差不多大
[05:17] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 但是苹果的设计真心差... 尤其是15寸的本
[05:18] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 哎不对啊
[05:18] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 我现在的这个硬盘，就是 9.5mm 的啊
[05:19] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 点可能....
[05:19] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 我在帽帽用的也是x230, 用的是7mm
[05:20] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 看图
[05:20] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 你最好还是贴出型号确认一下吧...
[05:20] * BuMangHuo ... 已经忘了这个硬盘到底有没有在这本子里面装过
[05:20] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 微信给你发了张图
[05:21] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 我明确记得, 我有个640g的hdd, 没办法放进去
[05:21] <BuMangHuo> 我关机试试
[05:22] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-ThinkPad-Laptops/Upgrade-a-ThinkPad-X230/td-p/1228181 看第一个回复
[05:22] <ubrl> iMadper: ⇪ Upgrade a ThinkPad X230 - Lenovo Community
[05:22] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 那个人还是个MS mvp
[05:23] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 1. The 0A65633 is a 9.5 mm drive, so it won't fit the X230. It requires 7 mm drives.
[05:23] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 你说的对
[05:23] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 装不进去
[05:23] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: http://forum.51nb.com/thread-1288471-1-1.html
[05:23] <ubrl> iMadper: ⇪ x230换9.5mm硬盘 - ThinkPad专区 - 专门网论坛 - 专业的笔记本电脑技术交流社区
[05:23] <BuMangHuo> ，我明明记得这个硬盘是拆机盘啊
[05:23] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 其实看来也可以...
[05:24] <BuMangHuo> 我记得这个硬盘就是当时换 ssd 的时候拆下来的啊
[05:24] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 坛子里的几个帖子显示x220直接就塞进去厚硬盘，我的x230却不太顺利，硬盘尾部很不合适，接口也插不住。仔细观察了一下，在硬盘仓口有一道金属凸槽顶住了厚硬盘，磨去后9.5mm硬盘顺利就位，上几个图吧。
[05:24] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 看到了? 还是可以的
[05:25] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 用润滑油的这种不靠谱
[05:25] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 人家是磨掉了障碍物啊
[05:25] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 点得?
[05:26] <BuMangHuo> 点得又是个啥典故
[05:27] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 直接翻译成 = > 怎么行
[05:27] <BuMangHuo> 怎么行又是个什么典故
[05:29] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: ... 我是说, 人家磨掉了障碍物才行, 你只用润滑油怎么行?
[05:29] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 换个角度插入也可以吧
[05:29] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 只是口那个地方有硬东西挡住了
[05:30] <BuMangHuo> 里面看起来是足够松的
[05:31] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 看这哥们的图 x230 里面那一堆胶带
[05:32] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: xps13是碳纤维的啊 并不是烂塑料
[05:32] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnFh3s74Dxg
[05:32] <ubrl> QiongMangHuo: ⇪ Full Review - Dell XPS 13 - 2015 - YouTube
[05:42] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 是碳纤维啊, 把碳纤维做的跟篮塑料一个样子而已
[05:42] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 跟大法的材料沉淀没得比啊
[05:43] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 就是太小了.
[05:43] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 14的就好了
[05:43] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 等咯
[05:43] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 摄像头在上面就好了...
[05:43] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 等15的...
[05:43] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 摄像头啊, 没意思啊
[05:43] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 角度问题, 显得脸大
[05:44] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: lol ~ 用不到~
[05:44] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 要 45 度聊天，用外置摄像头啊
[05:44] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 用手机...
[05:44] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-15-9530/pd
[05:44] <ubrl> O0XX|Qiong: ⇪ XPS 15 Laptop Available with 4K Ultra HD Touch Display | Dell
[05:45] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 这是旧的吧
[05:46] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 买这个不如买m3800了
[05:46] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: ubuntu版本 -101刀
[05:46] * iMadper 坐等m3900
[06:03] * nyfair 高薪诚聘魔都理工科娘T，2k/m招募廉价程序猿
[06:04] <QiongMangHuo> nyfair: 牛牛, 包养我!
[06:06] <nyfair> QiongMangHuo: 你妹，养你1天就破产了
[06:06] <QiongMangHuo> nyfair: 屁, 我挣几辈子也赚不到你的房产
[06:07] <nyfair> QiongMangHuo: 拉倒吧，谁不知道你时薪240M
[06:09] <QiongMangHuo> nyfair: 几十年能赚这些就不错了...
[06:10] <nyfair> QiongMangHuo: g婊和水婊我都受够了，贵司手机怎么样？
[06:10] <QiongMangHuo> nyfair: 没有微信和支付宝...
[06:10] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo 的时薪不是 480M 么？昨天记得说是 double 了啊？
[06:11] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 啊？ 没有？那就是我记错了
[06:12] <nyfair> QiongMangHuo: 那没关系，我还有个水果
[06:12] <nyfair> QiongMangHuo: 主要是水果的一些特性缺失不能忍
[06:13] <nyfair> QiongMangHuo: 中文输入法有没有
[06:13] <QiongMangHuo> nyfair: 母鸡
[06:13] <nyfair> QiongMangHuo: 这比微信重要多了好伐
[06:13] <nyfair> QiongMangHuo: ...
[06:13] <QiongMangHuo> nyfair: 我们特性缺失应该更多..
[06:15] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 但是我们有zhihu日报
[06:16] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: http://zhihudaily.ahorn.me/ 这个么?
[06:16] <nyfair> zhihu最近跟微博没两样了，一堆大V整天吹牛
[06:16] <ubrl> QiongMangHuo: ⇪ 知乎日报
[06:16] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 我写了个phone的app, 知乎日报. 不过写的太差, 就没拿出来
[06:16] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 跟这个一样的内容
[06:16] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 抓zhihu的接口
[06:17] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 牛牛
[06:17] <nyfair> iMadper: 牛牛
[06:18] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: ... .... .... 别闹.
[06:18] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: compiz的bug你修不?
[06:18] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 不修
[06:19] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 你们组谁修?
[06:19] * QiongMangHuo 竟然逆市大涨... 今天忙得一直没看盘 =,=
[06:19] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 没人修啊
[06:19] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 不行!
[06:20] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 必须得有人修!
[06:20] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 没人修啊
[06:21] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 卧槽, 那bug怎么破..
[06:22] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: compiz和我组没关系啊...
[06:23] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 但是, 我们组遇到不会的bug了啊... 来来来, 牛牛你临危受命收了这个bug吧
[06:23] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 不修...
[06:23] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 牛牛
[06:23] <iMadper> ...
[06:24] <O0XX|Qiong> QiongMangHuo: 咋能不修, 跑在硬件上的都是贵组的责任啊
[06:24] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 咋能不修, 跑在硬件上的都是贵组的责任啊
[06:24] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 就算是责任, 我组人都懒, 咋地吧
[06:24] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 截屏, cc他老板
[06:25] <nyfair> 招码农啊招码农
[06:25] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: ...
[06:25] * nyfair 每周五公费带你们去新天地夜店，你们自己捡尸体去
[06:25] * nyfair 这条件好不后
[06:26] <nyfair> 吼不吼
[06:26] <O0XX|Qiong> nyfair: 兹词啊
[06:27] <QiongMangHuo> 吼也
[06:27] <nyfair> 廉价劳动力呢？
[06:27] <nyfair> 麻蛋，这是逼我去雇阿三？
[06:27] <iMadper> nyfair: 兹词啊
[06:29] <Destine> QiongMangHuo, 早。
[06:29] <QiongMangHuo> Destine: 早... 睡醒了这是?
[06:30] <ltk> 早
[06:31] <Destine> QiongMangHuo, 嗯。。。
[06:33] <QiongMangHuo> Destine: 贵司真爽...
[06:34] <iMadper> Destine: 贵司真爽...
[06:34] <jiero> 贵司真爽
[06:34] <Niac> 有人学swift没
[06:34] <iMadper> Destine: 贵司要不要猴子啊?
[06:35] <Niac> 水果混有饭吃不
[06:35] <Destine> iMadper, 要啊，好多vacancies呢。。。
[06:35] <O0XX|Qiong> Destine: 贵司真爽...
[06:38] <iMadper> Niac: 成本太高, 别的还好
[06:42] <Niac> iMadper: 有什么成本低的可以尝试？
[06:43] <iMadper> Niac: golang
[06:43] <iMadper> Niac: 学习成本低, 开发成本低
[06:44] <Niac> 就业呢？
[06:44] <HowIsItGoing> Destine: 贵司真爽...
[06:44] <iMadper> Niac: golang还是蛮多地方用的
[06:46] <Niac> iMadper: go感觉都已经开始退热了
[06:46] <QiongMangHuo> 是啊, 都好几百年了
[06:46] <iMadper> Niac: 那如何?
[06:46] <iMadper> Niac: php退热多少年了?
[06:46] <happyaron> swift2 粗来以后还不知会咋样呢
[06:47] <happyaron> golang暂时还咳咳咳
[06:47] <O0XX|Qiong> happyaron: 壕蓉蓉
[06:47] <iMadper> happyaron: 贵司真是golang的忠实用户啊
[06:47] <nyfair> golang这种渣渣连自举都办不到
[06:47] <happyaron> O0XX|Qiong: 拜见有壕妹子的房子壕
[06:47] <happyaron> iMadper: 我组没人用golang
[06:47] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 拜见有壕妹子的房子壕
[06:48] <iMadper> happyaron: 贵司...
[06:48] <O0XX|Qiong> nyfair: golang还是个老爷们?
[06:48] <jiero> O0XX|Qiong: 拜见有壕妹子的房子壕
[06:49] <happyaron> iMadper: 我组sh/autofools/c/C艹/py 基本都这些
[06:49] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 拜见有壕妹子的房子壕
[06:49] <happyaron> 隔壁组也有变态一直在搞咖啡
[06:51] <Niac> 貌似现在做什么都不长久啊
[06:51] <iMadper> happyaron: autofools是啥?
[06:52] <iMadper> happyaron: glibc跨大版本会保持abi吧?
[06:52] <iMadper> Destine: 那个, 丰甜儿是贵司的?
[06:53] <jiero> Niac, 金融长久
[06:53] <jiero> Niac 手工长久，
[06:54] <Niac> jiero: 没有祖传的手艺啊
[06:54] <jiero> Niac, 傻吧。。。要啥祖传，你原创啊。
[06:54] <jiero> 。。。
[06:54] <jiero> 祖传的谁认识。有意思么？
[06:55] <Destine> iMadper, 是。
[06:55] <Niac> jiero: 要有历史厚度 有文化沉淀 不然怎么传承
[06:55] <iMadper> Destine: 贵司有ruby岗?
[06:55] <iMadper> Destine: 哦, 我自己去翻翻去
[06:56] <jiero> Niac, 。。。拉黑你
[06:56] <Destine> iMadper, 她那个不是ruby岗，是前端岗。
[06:56] <jiero> Niac, 传承毛线
[06:56] <iMadper> Destine: 哦...
[06:56] <iMadper> Destine: 明白
[06:57] <gfxmode> C\C++是最长久的，软硬件都吃香
[06:57] <happyaron> iMadper: 会有versioned ABI啊
[06:57] <Destine> iMadper, https://www.suse.com/company/careers/
[06:57] <ubrl> ⇪ f: Careers | SUSE
[06:57] <happyaron> iMadper: 钳子姐刚说自己是全堆岗
[06:57] <iMadper> happyaron: 啊? 好吧...
[06:58] <happyaron> gfxmode: 应该叫c艹吧。。。
[06:59] <happyaron> gfxmode: 我们已经被它艹坏了
[07:04] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: http://jobs.novell.com/cn/beijing/suse/jobid7452599-china-suse-oem-sales-manager(2014502)-jobs
[07:04] <ubrl> ⇪ f: Beijing, China SUSE jobs - China SUSE OEM Sales Manager(2014502) at Novell
[07:04] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 投投投
[07:05] <Destine> iMadper, 投这个可以转行。
[07:06] <iMadper> Destine: 转行?
[07:06] <iMadper> Destine: 昂, 对.
[07:06] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 你去啊, 跟那个微软大哥一样
[07:06] <Destine> iMadper, 这不就sales了么。。。
[07:07] <iMadper> Destine: 我倒是想卖啊
[07:08] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 微软大哥不错啊
[07:09] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 是啊.
[07:24] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 网貌似开始渣了
[07:24] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 上海互联网金融巨头招聘一位基金方向的高级产品经理，5年以上经验，欢迎自荐和推荐
[07:24] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 来?
[07:24] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 可以啊
[07:25] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 发房子就去
[07:26] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 网速很快啊.
[07:26] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 我的bt还是2mb/s啊
[07:32] * nyfair 高薪诚聘魔都理工科娘T，2k/m招募廉价程序猿
[07:33] <QiongMangHuo> nyfair: 牛牛, 包养我!
[07:33] <nyfair> QiongMangHuo: 腻邹凯，我可不想1天破产
[07:35] <kandu> nyfair: 牛牛，求包养
[07:35] <nyfair> kandu: 找时薪480w的当当
[07:36] <kandu> QiongMangHuo: 噹噹，你装穷啊
[07:36] <QiongMangHuo> kandu: 我是真穷
[07:37] <gebjgd> QiongMangHuo, 李老板啊， 上次那600亿美金的贷款搞定了么啊
[07:37] <jiero> kandu, 富人
[07:38] <jiero> kandu, 对我来说你也是富人
[07:39] <O0XX|Qiong> QiongMangHuo: 600亿, 你又要买地啦?
[07:39] <BuMangHuo> nnd
[07:39] <QiongMangHuo> nnnd
[07:39] <gebjgd> O0XX|Qiong, 据说 李老板要买几个岛
[07:43] <BuMangHuo> echo "127.0.0.1 www.smzdm.com" >> /etc/hosts
[07:44] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 京东的这个可以选择送货时间的太赞了, 我现在看见推的东西，下单的时候，都是选择 3 天后收货，然后基本上三天后就已经自动解毒了
[07:44] <BuMangHuo> 然后就拒收
[07:45] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: ...
[07:46] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 这是解决冲动消费的好办法
[07:46] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 最佳拔草方式是我这样: being poor
[07:46] <nyfair> BuMangHuo: 果然是牛牛
[07:46] <nyfair> BuMangHuo: 这家伙又哭穷，快去打死他
[08:01] <QiongMangHuo> 我操!
[08:01] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper:wps不能开odp?
[08:02] <jiero> O0XX|Qiong, 不能
[08:03] <jiero> QiongMangHuo, 该打
[08:04] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 原来京东不断加快送货速度是这种考虑啊
[08:04] <jiero> BuMangHuo, 让你不及反悔
[08:05] <jiero> nyfair, 年薪480w的壕
[08:10] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 遛弯去/
[08:10] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper:?
[08:24] <happyaron> nexus5貌似已经是1k的价位了？
[08:25] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 翻新的
[08:25] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: o
[08:25] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 下一个nexus应该是几了？
[08:25] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 秋叶原卖1800
[08:26] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 5-2
[08:26] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 啥意思
[08:26] <happyaron> nexus 5 二代？
[08:26] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: nexus 5 二代
[08:26] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 摸头
[08:26] <happyaron> 啥时出啊
[08:26] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 快了
[08:27] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 你又要买手机?
[08:27] <happyaron> 出了之后nexus 5会不会降价啊
[08:27] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 旧手机都出掉了，在慢慢琢磨买个备用的啊
[08:27] <happyaron> 另外也在等P7推Android L的更新
[08:28] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 想搞个三网机做备用
[08:28] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 还是好几个手机哦
[08:28] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 鄙视电信
[08:28] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 便宜
[08:29] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 电话5分/分
[08:29] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 我宁可多花钱也不入坑
[08:30] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 壕
[08:30] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 你多买一个手机贵更多
[08:30] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 我这买手机也便宜
[08:31] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: p7是1k拿到手的
[08:31] <happyaron> 用两三年问题不大
[08:33] <O0XX|Qiong> happyaron: 粗粮王啊
[08:33] <happyaron> O0XX|Qiong: 米黑
[08:34] <happyaron> O0XX|Qiong: 红米799，P7 1k，你说我拿哪个。。。
[08:34] <O0XX|Qiong> happyaron: 乐视, 魅力研习社管够
[08:34] <happyaron> O0XX|Qiong: 魅力研习社是啥
[08:34] <O0XX|Qiong> happyaron: 一档羞羞的电视节目
[08:34] <happyaron> ...
[08:36] <yunfan> happyaron: 不能4G也没用
[08:36] <happyaron> yunfan: 啥叫不能4G
[08:37] <yunfan> happyaron: nexus5 不能用移动的4G 至少是80%以上的基站
[08:37] <happyaron> oo
[08:37] <happyaron> 还有这说法
[08:39] <happyaron> 那就再等等咯
[08:40] <O0XX|Qiong> happyaron: 粗粮王呗
[08:40] <O0XX|Qiong> happyaron: 不行支持公司买魅族也可以
[08:41] <happyaron> O0XX|Qiong: 我等公司给发魅族
[08:42] * happyaron 然不太可能
[08:42] <nyfair> 艹，给员工发手机都不干？
[08:43] <nyfair> 还是自家推广的手机
[08:43] <happyaron> nyfair: 要做相关的事才能借吧
[08:43] <nyfair> opera这种垃圾都发手机啊
[08:43] <happyaron> bq那个可以申请到
[08:43] <happyaron> 但是那垃圾谁要
[08:43] <nyfair> 南非首富比那种垃圾公司还抠门？
[08:44] <happyaron> 嗯
[08:44] <nyfair> cannonical真心垃圾
[08:45] <root____1> hi,all
[08:45] <ubrl> root____1:点点点. 04:45
[08:47] <happyaron> 要不 iMadper 咋天天嚷嚷要跳槽呢
[08:47] <happyaron> lol
[08:54] <root____1> xp 在virtualbox中出现蓝屏重启是怎么回事？
[08:57] <Niac> 明天抢魅族note2
[08:58] <Niac> 只要799哦
[09:01] <iMadper> AD不在啊
[09:06] <root____2> kk
[09:08] <root____1> .....
[09:09] <root____1> hi gay
[09:09] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 你说的好像对
[09:11] <O0XX|Qiong> QiongMangHuo: 我就说嘛
[09:11] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 你说啥?
[09:12] <O0XX|Qiong> QiongMangHuo: 对对对啊
[09:13] <root____1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11695149/
[09:13] <root____1> 大叔们，这个要怎么解决哈
[09:19] <^k^> 新 虚拟机和虚拟化 • 关于NoVNC中屏幕不滚动的问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471238 ————————.jpg这两天我研究了下noVNC 在网页中连接console的功能，应该很早就有人做过了，不过我遇到了个问题，就是在连接操作什么都正常，就是输入到页面底部的时候屏幕不会滚
[09:25] <nyfair> pacman -Rdd virtualbox
[09:26] <nyfair> 我对archlinux打包的傻逼简直不能忍
[09:26] <nyfair> git为毛会依赖vim
[09:26] <nyfair> 我手动删了vim，git一点问题都没有
[09:30] <QiongMangHuo> 果然是ivy, 卖卖卖!
[09:36] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 有archlinux网站的账号没?
[09:36] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 咋可能没有
[09:37] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: https://bugs.archlinux.org/index.php?do=details&action=details.addvote&task_id=45295 vote up
[09:37] <ubrl> ⇪ f: FS#45295 : Lots of programs will get a segfault when quit.
[09:38] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: done
[09:41] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 么么哒
[09:41] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: (づ￣ 3￣)づ
[09:48] <^k^> 新 编译或打包 • 关于libfl-dev中libfl.so.2.0.0 为文本文件的问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471239 apt-get install flex 要依赖 libfl-dev 而libfl-dev其中的 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfl.so.2.0.0 文件， cat 内容如下 /* GNU ld script * -*- Mode: C -*- * libfl.so --- * Author : Manoj Srivastava ( [email protected]
[09:48] <^k^> ─> om ) * Created On : Mon Sep 11 13:25:55 2006 * Created On Node : glaurung.internal.golden-gryphon.com * Last Modified …
[09:57] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu错误报告 • dnsmasq错误 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471240 syslog报错 Code: Apr 11 16:53:13 nfs-PC NetworkManager[1970]: <error> [1428742393.577256] [nm-dns-dnsmasq.c:396] update(): dnsmasq owner not found on bus: Could not get owner of name 'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.dnsmasq': no such name Apr 11 16:53:13 nfs-PC NetworkManager
[10:02] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu错误报告 • dnsmasq错误 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471241 syslog报错 Code: Apr 11 16:53:13 nfs-PC NetworkManager[1970]: <error> [1428742393.577256] [nm-dns-dnsmasq.c:396] update(): dnsmasq owner not found on bus: Could not get owner of name 'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.dnsmasq': no such name Apr 11 16:53:13 nfs-PC NetworkManager
[11:38] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 女儿学烹调 : 母亲对女儿说:"今天你去练习烹调,弄两样菜,我教你。黄鱼,要把稻草扎了头烧的。笋要切快,每切一刀,转一下。"女儿答应而去。 停一回,母亲到厨下去一看,不禁大惊。只见女儿的脑袋上,用稻草扎着。身上在地上只管旋转,转一转,把笋切一刀。她一见母亲,
[11:38] <^k^> ─> 叫道:"不得了！头晕了！ "
[13:14] <vetwangcn> 看看你们在聊什么
[13:14] <iMadper> ...
[13:16] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 规劝 : 次和男同学谈到镜子,他说:"你们女孩子别的东西或许会没有,但是镜子一定最多。"我不以为然地接口道:"那倒未必,我宿 舍里就连一面镜子也没有。" 男同学迟疑了数秒,苦口婆心地对我说:"你要面对现实！ "
[13:22] <vetwangcn> 这要多丑啊
[13:34] <wsdjeg> 大家好
[13:34] <ubrl> wsdjeg:点点点. 09:34
[13:35] <wsdjeg> 你们都是用的什么发行版啊
[14:39] <wangshidong> 有人现在用的是最新版本的ubuntu么
[14:57] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: http://xiaohua.zol.com.cn/detail1/6073.html 记忆 : 病人:"我的记忆完全消失了！ "医生:"什么时候才开始消失的呢?"病人:"去年8月20日上午8点。"
[15:17] <Niac_> 淡淡的忧伤
[15:53] <ltk> 请问，linux内核文件list.h里的LIST_POSITION1 和 ''
[15:54] <ltk> LIST_POSITION2 是用来干什么的
[19:41] <root> hi,all
[19:41] <ubrl> root:点点点. 15:41
[19:41] <Guest1825> is there anyone can use tor network?
[19:41] <Guest1825> ubrl: robot?
[19:42] <ubrl> Guest1825, .. 休息一下 .. 15:42
[19:42] <Guest1825> ubrl: 03:42
[19:42] <ubrl> Guest1825,
[19:48] <Guest1825> .
[19:49] <gebjgd> Guest1825, 改名
[19:50] <Guest1825> are you used tor net ,gebjgd
[19:51] <gebjgd> Guest1825, your english sucks
[19:51] <gebjgd> Guest1825, no
[19:51] <Guest1825> ..
[21:20] <knownbad> Freenode disabled Tor a while ago.
[21:23] <gebjgd> knownbad, 早就走了
[21:28] <knownbad> 埋了沒？
[21:28] <gebjgd> knownbad, 没呢 等你埋呢
[21:31] <knownbad> 直接燒了散海裏。
[21:31] <knownbad> 或是天葬也不錯。
[21:31] <knownbad> 還是古人環保啊。
[21:35] <gebjgd> knownbad, 直接当肉吃了最好
[22:27] <knownbad> 有肉吃好啊。
[23:59] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu中文衍生版 • (2015-06-11)Ubuntu-14.04.2-mini-tw(繁體中文極簡版) http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=471242 此版本以Ubuntu Core 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr)為設計原型，從官方最小化底層開始打包製作而成，適合台灣、香港地區的桌面型，筆記本等電腦使用，具有以下功能： 1 針對官方原版微
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[08:36] <karni> balloons: does click-buddy support (or are there plans to support) qmake projects?
[08:57] <sturmflut2> 84 additions/updates to the App Store over the last seven days \o/
[08:58] <DanChapman> \o/ awesome!
[09:00] <sturmflut2> In the past I usually installed every new app on my bq to test it, but it's getting too much to do that every morning
[09:01] <sturmflut2> On monday alone there were 27 changes
[09:04] <sturmflut2> If anybody is looking for a "weekend project", I think there could be some real value in a script that posts every change to the app store on social media. I even have most of the code in my app store RSS Feed generator
[09:05] <popey> thats been done
[09:05] <popey> https://twitter.com/uappexplorer
[09:06] <popey> well, i assume that's automated
[09:06] <popey> but there's not a lot of posts.
[09:10] <sturmflut2> popey: Oooooh
[09:12] <sturmflut2> Brian really deserves an award for all of this
[11:45] <kalikiana> brendand: ping, wrt https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1463925
[11:49] <brendand> kalikiana, need a review?
[11:51] <kalikiana> brendand: the branch isn't 100% done yet, and there's a bug that prevents the bits I have from working: on my touchscreen, under unity7, the touch input prints logs but never does anything
[11:51] <kalikiana> I was hoping you might have some ideas or suggestions on what to look for
[12:26] <brendand> kalikiana, i would say touch on desktop hasn't been tested much, so may just be broken :/
[12:26] <brendand> kalikiana, if you file a bug against autopilot with a clear test case we could have a look
[12:27] <kalikiana> brendand: I'm pondering doing this in 2 steps. I'll finish this branch to get rid of mode in all test cases. then a follow-up branch could enable using touch when touch is available
[12:28] <kalikiana> that would make lots of test cases where you'd see it
[12:48] <kalikiana> brendand: changed all instances of mode now that had do depend on the input type https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/autoPilotConverge/+merge/261658
[12:49] <kalikiana> the cases left are dealing with unity7 and testing the current hard-coded mode behavior for the input device
[13:24] <Elleo> does anyone have any pointers for debugging an app failing to launch, but not reaching a stage where anything is written to an upstart log file? (but can be launched fine from the command line)
[13:26] <kalikiana> Elleo: how about running it under X11 with no upstart?
[13:31] <Elleo> maybe, not sure I'd learn much from that which I don't already from launching from the command line though; since the X11 desktop file would have to basically be a copy of what I'm running on the command line, since it doesn't add any of the extra QML import paths and things that upstart does on the phone
[13:51] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: do we have a way to get screenshots for the top sites ?
[13:52] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, nope, we don’t
[13:52] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: so in the wide view i am just going to put big black rectangles for now ?
[13:53] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, that’s something we need to discuss with design: either we want placeholders with a favicon in the center (but that would result rather ugly I think), or we want a list view instead
[13:53] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: james mulholland is our man, right ?
[13:53] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, can you start the conversation with design (James and Rae) to get their opinion?
[13:53] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ok
[13:54] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: and for the top bar used to choose between the top sites and bookmarks, is there a component from the SDK that can do it, or we just use custom stuff with abstract buttons ?
[13:54] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, I don’t know, you’ll have to check with the UITK folks
[13:55] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ok, will do. was just a quick check in case you had an idea in mind already
[13:55] <nerochiaro> thanks
[14:02] <arcaneblast> hi
[14:57] <sturmflut2> Is there a full list of command line arguments that webapp-container supports? "webapp-container --help" is incomplete and there is no man page.
[14:58] <sturmflut2> Oh, --help lists more arguments when run on the desktop rather than on the phone
[14:58] <sturmflut2> o_O
[15:06] <dpm> popey, I think you looked into this a while ago. Could you add a comment with your findings on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1324636 ?
[15:07] <popey> will take a look
[15:08] * popey assigns self
[15:17] <brendand> kalikiana, my only question would be about the semantic difference between == Touch and != Mouse
[15:17] <brendand> kalikiana, are there more than two types? i can't think of any others
[15:25] <kalikiana> brendand: the difference is right now theoretical, you woudn't see if they were wrong unless we get another type of device
[15:26] <kalikiana> maybe kinect :-D
[15:26] <brendand> kalikiana, maybe some comments explaining the reasoning would be helpful?
[15:26] <kalikiana> brendand: well, those places all have comments
[15:27] <kalikiana> such as 'doesn't work on touch right now'
[15:27] <kalikiana> or select all not being implemented on touch
[15:28] <brendand> kalikiana, for example:
[15:28] <brendand> + if base._get_input_device_class() == input.Touch:
[15:28] <brendand> 50 raise NotImplementedError(
[15:28] <brendand> 51 'Drag does not work on the phone because of bug #1266601')
[15:29] <brendand> maybe a bad example
[15:29] <kalikiana> brendand: what would you add there?
[15:29] <brendand> but the text of the error should be changed
[15:29] <brendand> to not say 'phone' but rather 'touch input'
[15:30] <kalikiana> oh, good point
[15:38] <brendand> kalikiana, btw you need to request a review from either canonical-platform-qa or me specifically
[15:38] <brendand> oh no wait
[16:02] <dpm> thanks a lot popey
[16:40] <sturmflut2> http://sturmflut.github.io/ubuntu/touch/2015/06/11/how-to-run-standalone-html5-apps-on-an-ubuntu-device/
[16:41] <sturmflut2> I am actually surprised by how well even quite complex HTML5 games work on a device like the Aquaris E4.5
[16:46] <mzanetti> mardy, ping
[16:50] <daker> sturmflut2: yes thanks to oxide & the chromium upstream project
[16:51] <sturmflut2> daker: Jep!
[18:57] <mzanetti> rpadovani, hey, mind reviewing a reminders branch? https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/reminders-app/enable-deleting-notebooks-and-tags/+merge/261774
[19:38] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: pushed a few more tests to the keyboard branch (had dinner in the meantime)
[19:47] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, thanks! I had dinner too, will now take a look
[19:49] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: thanks
[19:57] <rpadovani> mzanetti, I'm going to take a look but... the delete api wasn't in premiumn apis only?
[19:57] <mzanetti> rpadovani, our API key got upgraded
[19:58] <mzanetti> not really premium, but we got access to those to methods
[19:58] <mzanetti> rpadovani, read the comments in notesstore.cpp
[19:59] <rpadovani> mzanetti, ah, I see, thanks
[20:00] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, flake8 failure
[20:01] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: what ? i could have sworn i had ran flake8 before committing
[20:01] <oSoMoN> we should probably have a commit hook that runs the unit tests :)
[20:03] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: that's what i said :)
[20:03] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: fixed
[20:04] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, looking at the bzr documentation for hooks, it looks like the hook has to be installed locally in your bzr plugins dir, it doesn’t look like it can be local to the branch
[20:04] <nerochiaro> that's cool. checking flake8 is a good thing in general i suspect
[20:04] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN:
[20:05] <oSoMoN> yeah, you could have a general flake8 hook for all your branches, including those that don’t have a single bit of python code
[20:14] <rpadovani> mzanetti, seems it works, but minor issues: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/reminders-app/enable-deleting-notebooks-and-tags/+merge/261774/comments/655115
[20:15] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: flake8 will probably be ok with it anyway
[20:16] <mzanetti> rpadovani, thanks
[20:16] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: my head is a bit messed up by now, but i think that in Browser.qml when i check "if (!chrome.visible) return" i should really be checking "if (recentView.visible) return"
[20:16] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: actually nevermind
[20:18] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, "if (!chrome.visible) return" is correct, as we also want to return if the history view is visible
[20:18] <oSoMoN> or if the settings view is visible
[20:18] <rpadovani> mzanetti, also, + print("NetworkingStatus.online:", NetworkingStatus.online) it should be NetworkingStatus.Online (big O)
[20:18] <mzanetti> right... will fix
[20:19] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: then a lot of that logic needs to be revised
[20:19] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, why?
[20:19] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: because the conditions in which shortcuts are allowed become harder and harder to read
[20:20] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ideally we should have a shortcut class with an enabled property, to make it clear when the shortcut can be triggered
[20:20] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: or something more declarative like that
[20:21] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: right now the whole code is becoming scarily imperative
[20:21] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, right, that sounds like a potential good idea, not sure about the implementation details, but feel free to give it a go
[20:21] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: well, not today as i have no more energy, and tomorrow i am out
[20:21] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, ok, let’s keep it for next week then
[20:21] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: you sure bill we be allright with it ?
[20:21] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: he was in a rush to get this stuff merged
[20:22] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i personally think it is worth it
[20:22] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, I think it’s fine if we do it on Monday
[20:23] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ok, i will think about the implementation tomorrow, maybe if i have time throw a sketch at you to see if it makes sense
[20:23] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: thanks for all the reviews
[20:23] <oSoMoN> sounds good
[20:30] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, wrt historyUpdateOnLoadCommitted, you add onTitleChanged and onIconChanged because it's possible the title or the icon are loaded after the loadevent has been fired so you update history to have a favicon and a title anyway, right?
[20:31] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, let me read my code again, I need to refresh my memory
[20:31] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/historyUpdateOnLoadCommitted/+merge/259361
[20:32] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, yeah, that’s correct
[20:46] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, when I change the url, all connections to old server aro dropped? Could happen that a resource of the old site is loaded after the url is changed? Same thing for scripts: is the execution stopped in the same moment the url changes? (well, I expect it's so, just to be sure)?
[20:47] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, I would expect so, that’s a question for chrisccoulson
[20:49] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, anyway, looks good to me (apart if what I wrote above doesn't happen, because could result a strange history, but we have some worst problem if isn't all dropped when the page change)
[20:49] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, just a comment: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/historyUpdateOnLoadCommitted/+merge/259361/comments/655123
[20:51] <chrisccoulson> changing the URL doesn't change what's in the webview until the load gets committed (it's still possible to get events for the current page before that - including permission requests etc)
[20:51] <chrisccoulson> I'm not sure if that answers your question :)
[20:52] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, we don’t want to update the title if it has changed since it was last recorded, because some pages do this ugly trick to update the title continuously to achieve an ugly "scrolling title" effect
[20:52] <rpadovani> chrisccoulson, yes, thanks
[20:53] <chrisccoulson> I should point out - WebView.url shouldn't be used for any policy decisions anywhere in an application. It should only be displayed in the addressbar :)
[20:53] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, right, but maybe the title changes for another reason (like result of a game, it says 0-0, then 0-1, and so on). But I see your point there
[20:54] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, using the page title for this kind of information is wrong anyway, and we don’t want to update the history DB everytime there is a dynamic update of the title
[20:54] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, that’s consistent with how chromium behaves
[20:55] <oSoMoN> try e.g. browsing to http://htmlmarquee.com/title.html and open the history page
[20:55] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, okay, gotcha, let me just check a last case and then I approve it
[20:56] <oSoMoN> thanks
[20:56] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, I’m replying to your comment, for future reference
[20:57] <oSoMoN> (in case the question comes up again)
[20:57] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, but anyway the first time title is updated you update the history. I think you should add if(title){webviewInternal.storedTitle = title} in the onLoadEvent
[20:58] <rpadovani> or am I missing something?
[21:00] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, and plus you should the same check on Icon, because some sites (including Gmail) update the icon when you have a notification
[21:00] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, when we get the load event, it might be that the title hasn’t been reset yet, i.e. I’m getting a load event for page B but webview.title still has the value of page A’s title
[21:00] <rpadovani> *you should do
[21:01] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, in that case, we don’t want to set storedTitle, otherwise that would prevent the next valid title update from updating the db
[21:01] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, for the icon it’s a bit more tricky, but I don’t remember why now, let me scratch my head for a minute, it’ll come back
[21:03] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, mhh, about title: if title is valid when the onLoadCommitted is fired, then onTitleChanged isn't fired, and maybe it's fired after 10 minutes for another reason, and you're going to save the new title
[21:04] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, that’s right, but I have no way of knowing that, do I ?
[21:06] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, no, I don't have a better implementation in my mind atm, I'm just thinking to corner case about your code. If I've a better idea I'll say you
[21:08] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, don't get me wrong, I think it's better than the actually, and it's good enough to be merged. Only, it isn't perfect imo (but probably other brwosers have the same problem, because tometimes in history there are strange things)
[21:09] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, you’re right, I didn’t think it was that easy to update the favicon dynamically, but http://www.p01.org/releases/DEFENDER_of_the_favicon/ is a great example of how one can abuse this
[21:09] <oSoMoN> I’ll need a similar mechanism as for the title
[21:10] <oSoMoN> I’ll also add some comments to make the code more explicit
[21:11] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, also chromium on desktop saves also redirect (but I prefer our implementation on that)
[21:13] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, on chromium when the icon changes they update they icon in history but not the title, crazy guys: you could have the webmail icon with (3) unread, and title that says 5
[21:14] <oSoMoN> huh, are you sure they update the icon?
[21:15] <oSoMoN> oh, they do indeed
[21:15] <oSoMoN> that’s bad
[21:17] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, well, since chromium implementation is worst than ours, let's say you add a check for the icon update, then your MR is good enough to be merged IMO
[21:17] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, sounds ok?
[21:17] <oSoMoN> sounds good :)
[21:17] <oSoMoN> I’m adding the check for the icon, and will document it in a more verbose fashion
[21:17] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, also they don't update history in real time as we do, tsk, noobs :P
[21:18] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, great! Ping me when you've done
[21:18] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, well, it’s probably actually a good thing
[21:19] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, what? I mean, open a history in a tab, open a new tab, navigate to a new site, go to the history tab, the new site isn't shown
[21:19] <rpadovani> it sounds a bit strange
[21:20] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, is it eventually updated, or is it just that the history page is static?
[21:20] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, it seems static to me
[21:21] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, but if you reload the history page, the new entry appears, right?
[21:21] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, right
[21:21] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, I guess that’s only a limitation of having the history view implemented as a web page
[21:23] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, well, I think you can find a workaround for that, but anyway, not our problem :-)
[21:23] <oSoMoN> indeed
[21:35] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, wrt keyboard-shortcuts, the suggestions list works in a completely different way from chromium (and I prefer the chromium way) there is no way to use suggestions and continue typing. One of the thing I do on chroimium when I want to search on wikipedia is ctrl+t, type wi, a couple of times arrow down, url address becomes wikipedia because is suggested, then i type the voice I'm looking for
[21:35] <rpadovani> this isn't possible with the actual implementation of the keyboard shortcuts for suggestions
[21:36] <rpadovani> a possible way adding a shortcut (tab?) that injects the suggestion selected in the address bar. What do you think?
[21:36] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, I see what you mean, and you’re right, this is much more useful in chromium
[21:36] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, Ugo’s branch already makes it much better anyway, so I’d say we implement such an improvement in a second iteration
[21:37] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, okay. then as usability looks good to me, I take jsut a look to the code
[21:38] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, I pushed an update to my historyUpdateOnLoadCommitted branch
[21:38] <rpadovani> on it
[21:39] <mzanetti> rpadovani, all fixed
[21:40] <rpadovani> 5 minutes and I check :-)
[21:41] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, I like the idea of the readonly property, it indeed improves a bit more the function! Approved :-)
[21:42] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, thanks
[21:58] <rpadovani> mzanetti, approved
[21:58] <mzanetti> rpadovani, thanks :)
[21:58] <mzanetti> rpadovani, if you are still in the mood, there's a new one by now :)
[21:59] <rpadovani> mzanetti, of course :-)
[22:00] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, I commented on https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/oxide/type-info/+merge/260065
[22:01] * oSoMoN is headed to bed
[22:01] <rpadovani> well, thanks :D
[22:04] <mzanetti> rpadovani, and one more :) https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/reminders-app/fix-count-when-sorting/+merge/261785
[22:13] <rpadovani> mzanetti, on it, I left some comments on improve-edit-tags
[22:22] <mzanetti> rpadovani, cool, thanks a bunch
[22:55] <mzanetti> rpadovani, fixed
[22:55] <rpadovani> mzanetti, I finish another review and then I take another look
[22:56] <mzanetti> rpadovani, it's not urgent... you can also go to bed if you want :D
[22:57] <rpadovani> mzanetti, nah, I prefer sleeping in the morning now uni lessons are over :-)
[23:11] <rpadovani> mzanetti, approved but not top approved so we can have also popey's opinion
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[04:56] <Mirv> doko: ack, I asked mandel to look at the bug, he probably knows what it's about then
[05:03] <linuxuz3r> just wanna say hi
[05:03] <linuxuz3r> im a noob
[05:24] <pitti> Good morning
[05:30] <Unit193> Howdy, pitti.
[09:12] <doko> infinity, subscribed glibc to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/1248642
[11:05] <caribou> merge question : rsyslog installs an "upstart only" job (saving dmesg on boot) in the vivid version
[11:05] <caribou> should I migrate it to systemd ?
[11:48] <caribou> on the same topic, should I also migrate the upstart job to systemd ? upstream debian hasn't done the systemd bits yet
[11:58] <rbasak> caribou: does that mean that Vivid with systemd regresses the saving dmesg on boot functionality?
[11:59] <rbasak> caribou: AIUI, yes we should fix that in systemd.
[11:59] <rbasak> pitti: ^^
[11:59] <caribou> rbasak: I would think so
[11:59] <rbasak> I wonder if we should SRU a fix for that to VIvid.
[11:59] <caribou> rbasak: FYI I went ahead & created an rsyslog-dmesg.service
[11:59] <rbasak> Saving dmesg on boot is useful.
[11:59] <caribou> rbasak: I can create the bug & SRU once the merge is done
[12:00] <rbasak> Users will only discover it not there when they debug and can't find it.
[12:00] <rbasak> caribou: thanks!
[12:00] <caribou> rbasak: how about migrating the upstart script to systemd ?
[12:00] <rbasak> caribou: the regular rsyslog job?
[12:01] <caribou> well, upstream only has an init job but we do provide an upstart job merged in
[12:01] <rbasak> Then the init.d job is fine unless losing the upstart job regresses some functionality
[12:01] <caribou> rbasak: the upstart job is now obsolete so it means relying on upstream init script
[12:02] <caribou> rbasak: I'll check it out
[12:02] <rbasak> Obsolete for Ubuntu, yes. Debian could use it for Debian users using upstart though
[12:04] <caribou> rbasak: ok got bug #1464227
[12:05] <caribou> rbasak: don't think it is in the debian package
[12:23] <pitti> caribou: it's all in the journal, isn't it?
[12:27] <rbasak> Hmm. I suppose if systemd provides equivalent functionality then we don't need it? (Does it?)
[12:30] <mdeslaur> pitti: the journal isn't enabled by default though, no?
[12:31] * mdeslaur doesn't have a /var/log/journal directory
[12:31] <pitti> mdeslaur: journal is (in /run), just not persistant journal in /var
[12:32] <pitti> but rsyslog also captures kernel messages
[12:32] <mdeslaur> hrm, I don't have anything in /run/systemd/journal either
[12:32] <mdeslaur> I guess it's in ram
[12:32] <pitti> mdeslaur: it is in /run/systemd/journal
[12:32] <pitti> mdeslaur: "sudo journalctl -b" -> does that work?
[12:33] <mdeslaur> yeah, that works
[12:33] <rbasak> wfm
[12:33] <mdeslaur> it's cached in ram
[12:33] <rbasak> Will that retain "dmesg on boot" indefinitely or will it roll over eventually?
[12:34] <rbasak> "systemd-journal[318]: Runtime journal is using 8.0M (max allowed 77.8M..."
[12:34] <rbasak> The usefulness of /var/log/dmesg is that once dmesg wraps it's still available.
[12:34] <pitti> rbasak: nothing is kept indefinitely :) (logrotate etc.)
[12:34] <rbasak> If systemd can still wrap, I think it'd still be useful to have /var/log/dmesg.
[12:35] <mdeslaur> I do seem to have my dmesg stuff in /var/log/kern.log
[12:35] <pitti> yes, journal will wrap eventually, depending on the amount of RAM (or disk, if you use persistancy)
[12:35] <pitti> mdeslaur: yes, that too
[12:35] <pitti> we cleaned up some of rsyslog's duplication a while ago, but there's still plenty
[12:36] <pitti> and as long as we install rsyslog I don't want to enable persistant journal by default
[12:36] <pitti> we already hit/wake up the disk enough as it is
[12:36] <mdeslaur> nah, no sense logging twice
[12:36] <mdeslaur> and dmesg is in kern.log
[12:36] <mdeslaur> so I don't see why a separate /var/log/dmesg is required
[12:37] <pitti> yes, me neither; that's why I never bothered to port it, it's just the fourth duplicate
[12:37] <rbasak> pitti: /var/log/dmesg was previously kept at least until next boot
[12:37] <rbasak> mdeslaur, pitti: kern.log eventually rotates round within the same long-lived boot
[12:37] <rbasak> Nevertheless it's useful to see what the kernel said on boot without having to reboot
[12:38] <rbasak> That's where /var/log/dmesg comes in.
[12:38] <ogra_> there was an upstart job that just echoed dmesg into that file right after boot ... /var/log/dmesg is really really helpful
[12:38] <mdeslaur> rbasak: oh, I see, hrm
[12:38] <pitti> well, lots of things are "really really helpful"
[12:38] * ogra_ is fully with rbasak here and would like to have it back
[12:38] <pitti> but writing everything four times isn't
[12:38] <rbasak> It's only small and is only written once on boot
[12:38] <ogra_> well, dmesg eventually scrolls away
[12:38] <rbasak> /var/log/dmesg doesn't get written or grow at any other time.
[12:38] <ogra_> and there is no other log that has this info
[12:38] <pitti> syslog is kept for a fair while
[12:39] <pitti> ogra_: sure, /var/log/syslog, /var/log/kern.log, and the journal
[12:39] <ogra_> syslo doesnt have these messages
[12:39] <ogra_> and kern.log starts later as well
[12:39] * ogra_ buys a new g key
[12:39] <rbasak> /var/log/dmesg is useful after a server has been running a really long time. After all logs have rotated away.
[12:39] <ogra_> not only a server :)
[12:39] <rbasak> :)
[12:40] <pitti> rbasak: how is it more useful than, e. g. knowing what postfix did 233 days ago?
[12:40] <rbasak> pitti: it's the kernel messages on boot that are useful.
[12:40] <ogra_> right
[12:40] <pitti> I mean, I do appreaciate log files, but it's always a trade-off between wakeups, disk space, and retaining information
[12:40] <rbasak> pitti: since they are still relevant to the running system and aren't necessarily historical.
[12:40] <pitti> and right now we rather have too much duplication still
[12:40] <rbasak> No wakeups for /var/log/dmesg
[12:41] <rbasak> Mine is 89K.
[12:41] <ogra_> it is the one place where you have proper boot messages and its tiny
[12:41] <rbasak> pitti: you realise /var/log/dmesg is only written on boot and never touched again, right?
[12:41] <pitti> yes
[12:45] <rbasak> pitti: get systemd upstream to not rotate the first dmesg output out, and then we won't need to keep a file with it any more. If you really want :)
[12:45] <pitti> rbasak: systemd? linux you mean?
[12:45] <rbasak> No I think linux would insist it's a userspace concern.
[12:45] <pitti> but the entire dmesg is in the journal
[12:45] <rbasak> It will rotate out, no?
[12:46] <pitti> rbasak: dmesg is the kernel's ringbuffer
[12:46] <rbasak> Yes, which rotates.
[12:46] <pitti> rbasak: yes, depending on your disk space
[12:46] <rbasak> OK. I'm saying that what was in the kernel's ringbuffer straight after boot is important, should be kept and should not rotate out ever.
[12:46] <rbasak> It's ~100K so that shouldn't really be a problem at all.
[12:46] <pitti> well, *shrug*, if you really care about yet another copy, I don't veto if someone adds that job to rsyslog; I just always foud it rather pointless
[12:47] <rbasak> We already did it in /var/log/dmesg, so let's keep doing that unless there's a replacement.
[12:47] <rbasak> OK, thanks :)
[12:47] <pitti> if you find it useful, I mean
[12:47] <rbasak> I have used it in the past a number of times.
[12:47] <rbasak> Saves having to reboot to get that information.
[12:47] <ogra_> yeah
[12:47] <pitti> TBH, I didn't even know that it existed until now :)
[12:48] <rbasak> "should not rotate out ever" -- well, rotating once-per-boot (like it did < Vivid) is fine.
[12:49] * pitti checks, journal logging on my desktop goes back to April 22
[12:50] <rbasak> Sometimes things spam to dmesg
[12:51] <rbasak> Logging with rotation is never expected to always go all the way back to boot.
[12:51] <rbasak> (and that wouldn't be reasonable because of the space it might take)
[12:51] <mdeslaur> caribou: see the can of worms you've opened? :)
[12:53] <pitti> yeah, classical bikeshed territory :)
[12:53] <ogra_> mdeslaur, well, we heard about a "new fledgling in the Foundations team nest" .... worms are the food of the day ;)
[12:53] <pitti> you could have waited until Friday
[12:53] <pitti> ogra_: *tweet* *tweet*
[12:53] <ogra_> :D
[12:54] <mdeslaur> heh
[13:44] <caribou> mdeslaur: ouch, I stepped out a while & missed on all the fun :)
[13:45] <mdeslaur> caribou: nice try :)
[13:45] <caribou> mdeslaur: well, looks like the rsyslog merge (aside from bikesheding) in not as hard as it looked
[13:45] <mdeslaur> caribou: cool
[13:46] <caribou> mdeslaur: most of the diff was in the CVE that you uploaded a while ago & that was a backport from newer versions
[13:53] <caribou> rbasak: back at the upstart migration to systemd topic, the main difference in the upstart job it that it takes care of the apparmor profile
[13:53] <caribou> rbasak: so I do think that it is sufficient to justify migrating the job
[13:53] <rbasak> caribou: I think systemd has syntax for AppArmor
[14:08] <mdeslaur> caribou: you can drop the apparmor stuff if you convert it to a systemd unit
[14:09] <mdeslaur> err, systemd service
[14:09] <caribou> mdeslaur: why ? seems rather trivial to keep it
[14:09] <mdeslaur> caribou: the apparmor stuff in upstart scripts was to prevent race conditions
[14:10] <mdeslaur> caribou: the systemd unit file for apparmor should be started early enough for that to not be a problem
[14:10] <caribou> rbasak: yeah, I found AppArmorProfile=, but according to the doc it still needs the profile to be loaded first
[14:10] <mdeslaur> caribou: yeah, don't use apparmorprofile=
[14:10] <caribou> mdeslaur: ah, ok
[14:56] <gogis_> I know C/++, Python, Pascal, quite Java... I also understand Assembly and I can learn other languages quickly... can I somehow help with the development of ubuntu?
[14:58] <gogis_> hmm, it's quiet here :D
[15:05] <dobey> gogis_: do you have any particular things you are interested in helping with? there are plenty of bugs filed on launchpad (or in upstream bug trackers), which you could submit patches for
[15:07] <gogis_> dobey: Well, firstly, I should probably learn something more about how these works :)
[15:07] <gogis_> but where can I find the sources and how do I submit patches?
[15:12] <dobey> gogis_: generally, the best place to submit patches is to upstreams.
[15:13] <gogis_> dobey: okay, thanks :)
[15:43] <chiluk> hallyn, re: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/1451598 ... I talked to arges a few days back about pushing the SRU, and he told me that you were bundling up a few fixes for precise ... is that still true or was it an error in communication?
[15:44] <arges> there are also some libvirt bugs needing verification before we can accept the current libvirt in the queue
[15:44] <arges> #1425619 #1447030
[15:45] <chiluk> arges 1425619 is a trusty only fix.
[15:45] <chiluk> I'm concerned with precise only.
[15:46] <arges> chiluk: its in the pending queue. i missed it yesterday
[15:46] <arges> unapproved queue that is
[15:46] <chiluk> arges 1379585 is the one we need verified
[15:47] <chiluk> arges it looks like hallyn already verified 1379585
[15:47] <chiluk> so I'm not sure what's holding up the promotion to updates..
[17:36] <infinity> Huh. I wonder why '-vga qxl' isn't the qemu default. It actually functions sanely, unlike pretty much all the others.
[17:53] <juliank> Any idea how I can trigger bug 1445949 ?
[17:54] <juliank> I have a workaround that normalizes the part of the Debian versioning scheme we use to PEP440 (ubuntu => +ubuntu, ~alpha => .a, ~beta=>.b, ~rc => .rc, ~exp => .dev, build is stripped)
[17:55] <juliank> This should make it happy, so I'd like to test it
[18:21] <hallyn> chiluk: i have a sru list but none for precise, so feel free to push that one
[18:22] <chiluk> arges ^^ do you mind?
[18:22] <chiluk> thanks hallyn ... I'm not a core dev yet.
[18:23] <arges> chiluk: sure
[18:23] <hallyn> oh
[18:23] <arges> chiluk: hallyn done
[18:24] <chiluk> I guess that's an indication that I probably should be ..
[18:24] <hallyn> what'd done exactly? you pushed the fix for 1451598 ?
[18:25] <arges> hallyn: i've accepted libvirt into precise-proposed
[18:25] <arges> it was already sponsored
[18:25] <hallyn> oooh.
[18:25] <hallyn> i confused myself
[18:26] <arges> i have the same problems too
[18:27] <hallyn> well glad it's all settled :) \0
[18:27] <hallyn> thx arges
[19:22] <dobey> infinity: hi! just curious on what else is holding up the nettle transition still. i see curl is a valid candidate now on the excuses page
[19:25] <infinity> dobey: A little too much multitasking is preventing me from unwinding it all right this instant.
[19:26] <dobey> infinity: ok
[19:27] <infinity> dobey: We probably need to decouple it from the Haskell transition, but I haven't had time to see if anything else is also holding it up.
[19:27] <dobey> ok.
[22:16] <juliank> Can/Should somebody mark bug 1464305 as only affecting vivid, utopic, and trusty? Wily's ndiswrapper supports kernel 4.0. The other(s) need a tiny fix, if someone wants to SRU them (https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/ndiswrapper.git/commit/?id=fe307aab912c55fb357670e5e838c353712a689b)
[22:18] <juliank> Because the only thing to care about is the strncasecmp strnicmp rename in the kernel, so it's not like this could break anything in an SRU
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-installer
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[09:21] <xnox> mpt: removing e.g. keyboard/language indicator could work on touch devices, with pop-up keyboard that has globe/cog button to change keyboard language.
[13:17] <mpt> xnox, yes, but meanwhile most people using the installer will still be using a hardware keyboard :-]
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-ops
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yes, I'm connected to an open wifi point right now, Hart's Laundry. I'm trying to hog their wifi.
[00:47] <bazhang> is that like superwardriving
[02:44] <teward> Can someone banforward *!*@ber19-3-78-220-252-108.fbx.proxad.net to ##fix_your_connection
[02:45] <teward> oixow, Duwo, Reikg are the 'users' tied to there, all excess flooding on connect
[02:45] <teward> (in #ubuntu)
[02:45] <teward> Caes just now too
[02:45] <teward> and others, but all from that host/ip
[03:11] <OerHeks> Hi, i notice in #ubuntu a flood from @ber19-3-78-220-252-108.fbx.proxad.net
[03:13] <OerHeks> :-)
[06:15] <stevendale> Hi
[08:01] <stevendale> Hi
[08:03] <stevendale> Hi k1l
[08:07] * stevendale sighs
[08:20] <retroispresto> Would anyone like to unban me from #ubuntu-offtopic?
[17:01] <bazhang> * [LinuxNewb] ([email protected]): Travie
[17:02] <bazhang> a familiar voice
[23:34] <HFSPLUS> HFSPLUS HAS ARRIVED!
[23:35] <HFSPLUS> !ops
[23:35] <HFSPLUS> bazhang, how the fuck are you?
[23:35] <HFSPLUS> you son of a bitch!
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-us-oh
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[00:06] <yano> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/09/obama-fisa-court-surveillance-phone-records
[00:06] <jenni> [ Obama lawyers asked secret court to ignore public court's decision on spying | US news | The Guardian ] - https://j.mp/1IHd2Lh
[00:28] <dzho> > The legal request, filed nearly four hours after Barack Obama vowed to sign a new law banning precisely the bulk collection he asks the secret court to approve, also suggests that the administration may not necessarily comply with any potential court order demanding that the collection stop.
[00:28] <dzho> I'm thinking of a word that begins with I
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-design
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[12:08] <stevenm> Hey - anyone alive in here today?
[12:09] <kemmko> alive
[12:09] <stevenm> wooo!
[12:09] <kemmko> :)
[12:09] <stevenm> kemmko, are you perhaps someone who can fix design.ubuntu.com if I've noticed it's slightly broken?
[12:09] <kemmko> stevenm: it depends….what is broken?
[12:10] <stevenm> http://design.ubuntu.com/downloads?metadata=element-pictogram
[12:10] <stevenm> see how it says 71 results?
[12:10] <kemmko> yes
[12:11] <stevenm> it doesn't show 71 results... it shows 68
[12:11] <kemmko> uhhh
[12:11] <kemmko> well…let me find out who can fix that
[12:11] <stevenm> my *guess* would be the server, desktop and laptop pictograms are missing
[12:12] <stevenm> but that's just a guess based on how I know those pictograms *did* exist at some point - and don't appear to be in those results
[14:01] <stevenm> kemmko, do you know anyone who can fix it?
[15:05] <kemmko> stevenm: no, not yet
[15:06] <kemmko> stevenm: did you try to report a bug?
[15:06] <kemmko> stevenm: if you scroll down, you can see a link saying "report a bug on this site"
[15:22] <mpt> kemmko, in <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LanguageAndText?action=diff&rev2=54&rev1=53#keyboard-hardware> I introduce an “element field” for entering/editing keyboard combos. Maybe it will be just custom to that screen, but Dekko might benefit from something similar for addresses.
[15:22] <mpt> I just looked up the equivalent in OS X, it’s called a “token field”. <https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/OSXHIGuidelines/ControlsText.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/20000957-CH51-SW4>
[15:24] <mpt> Windows doesn’t seem to have an equivalent
[15:27] <mpt> kemmko, the “Tags” field in Firefox’s “Bookmark This Page” popover is another example of a field that would be much harder to make mistakes with if it was an element/token field rather than a standard text field
[15:31] <mpt> kemmko, should I write this up for discussing with the SDK team?
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-qc
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[18:42] <ghosty_> bonsoir tout le monde
[18:52] <Ankman> bonjour
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-mythtv
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[09:46] <spoky99> hi all
[10:50] <spoky99> hi all
[12:38] <spoky99> hi all
[12:43] <spoky99> I have problem with mythwelcome, when I leave mythfrontend does the count down but don't execute the script (that are executable and tested from bash)
[12:44] <spoky99> I don't know what goes wrong, I cecked all the configuration menu (mythwelcome setup, general setup into mythfrontend and mythtv-setup) and they seem correct
[12:44] <spoky99> there is a way to know what stop mythwelcome?
[15:34] <spoky99> hi all
[15:34] <spoky99> I have problem with mythwelcome, when I leave mythfrontend does the count down but don't execute the script (that are executable and tested from bash)
[15:38] <spoky99> launching mythbackend -v idle,system seems that mythtv repeat many times mythshutdown --check
[15:39] <spoky99> hi gedakc
[15:43] <spoky99> hi #gedakc
[15:47] <gedakc> spoky99: Hi. :-)
[15:47] <spoky99> I'm still there :D
[15:47] <gedakc> Did you get it working?
[15:47] <spoky99> don't work -_-
[15:47] <spoky99> launching mythbackend -v idle,system seems that mythtv repeat many times mythshutdown --check
[15:48] <gedakc> Did you try using all the steps I had in the tutorial I wrote?
[15:48] <spoky99> yesss
[15:49] <gedakc> Does MythTV work for everything else (recording, watching shows, etc)? 'Just not for auto shutdown and wakeup?
[15:49] <spoky99> yes
[15:50] <spoky99> the other computer work :)
[15:50] <gedakc> And just to confirm, was the test of RTC wakeup on your motherboard successful?
[15:52] <gedakc> Hmm... so your other computer works....
[15:52] <spoky99> the old-new mediacenter make from mythbuntu 14.04 don't work properly, during shutdown frozed
[15:53] <spoky99> war 1 or 2 month that was on witouth shutdown
[15:53] <gedakc> Could you describe "frozed"?
[15:53] <spoky99> I put shutdown -P
[15:53] <spoky99> and now shutdown
[15:54] <gedakc> Does it shutdown properly now?
[15:55] <spoky99> I really don't know why froze, start go down service and suddenly he stopped, without write someting in the log file
[15:55] <spoky99> now It work
[15:56] <spoky99> (the next step was connect a serial cable and start telnet connection for to see what goes wrong)
[15:56] <gedakc> Do you recall making a change that caused shutdown to start working?
[15:57] <spoky99> shutdown -P
[15:57] <gedakc> Okay. If I recall correctly some systems did need that.
[15:57] <spoky99> sometime they shutdown well before this change, sometime froze
[15:58] <spoky99> I read it
[15:58] <spoky99> I'm not luky :)
[15:59] <spoky99> sometime don't wakeup, I don't know if is a motherboard problem or a system problem, and I'm trying to replace motherboard and filesysem
[15:59] <spoky99> filesystem
[15:59] <gedakc> In the MythBackend setup, have you disabled "block shutdown before client connected"?
[16:00] <spoky99> but I don't want use mythbuntu
[16:00] <spoky99> yesss! I disable it, is uncecked
[16:00] <gedakc> Oh, sorry, my mistake. I assumed you were using mythbuntu. What distro are you using?
[16:01] <spoky99> ubuntu with mate desktopmanager
[16:01] <gedakc> I haven't used that setup.
[16:01] <spoky99> 14.04
[16:02] <gedakc> Only kubuntu, ubuntu, lubuntu, and xubuntu.
[16:02] <spoky99> in theory it should not change anything
[16:02] <spoky99> mate use ligtdm like xubuntu
[16:02] <gedakc> 'Agreed, although there are differences that might impact the setup.
[16:03] <spoky99> and sometime gnome
[16:03] <gedakc> From my past experience, intermittent problems are often caused by faulty hardware.
[16:03] <spoky99> maybe
[16:03] <gedakc> If the problem is consistent (repeatable), then I've often found it to be with software.
[16:04] <gedakc> Since you have one computer working, that implies that you have correctly set up MythTV at least once.
[16:04] <gedakc> You might try comparing settings between the systems to see if there are any key differences.
[16:04] <spoky99> I'm not shure with the old computer, but new motherboard work well, the tvcard work well, harddisk is ok
[16:04] <spoky99> Is exactly the same
[16:05] <gedakc> If it's exactly the same, you might try making an image backup of both computers. Then restore the image from the working computer onto the non-working computer to see if that fixes the problem.
[16:06] <spoky99> I compare the screen of the setup, checking each caracter and spooky space
[16:07] <gedakc> That would be the first thing I would try. However, comparing screens is a manual process and something might be missed.
[16:07] <spoky99> there is not difference, I check mythfrontend general, mytwelcome --setup and mytwelocme -i and mythtv-setup
[16:07] <spoky99> I know
[16:07] <gedakc> The problem might be in a script or some other area too.
[16:08] <gedakc> Since it is the same hardware, it should work with exactly the same settings.
[16:08] <gedakc> Is the firmware the same version on the motherboards?
[16:08] <spoky99> yesterday the old mediacenter don't shutdown because I leave a strange caracter in the path (insert for don't shutdown the computer for the problem ahead)
[16:09] <spoky99> are two different motherboard
[16:09] <spoky99> is not the same hardware
[16:10] <spoky99> is not new hardware, but it work
[16:10] <spoky99> launching the script from bash... work
[16:10] <gedakc> I guess when you said "exactly the same", you meant the MythTV setup, not the hardware.
[16:11] <spoky99> mytwelcome enters loop and does not exceed the check
[16:11] <spoky99> yess the configuration is the same
[16:11] <spoky99> same script
[16:11] <spoky99> same path
[16:11] <spoky99> no
[16:11] <gedakc> So mythwelcome is in a loop (does not shutdown)?
[16:12] <spoky99> is not true, now in the new there is your setting
[16:12] <spoky99> yess
[16:12] <gedakc> Mythwelcome runs a script to check if it is okay to shutdown before it invokes the shutdown.
[16:12] <spoky99> launching from bash mythbackend -v idle,system seems that mythtv repeat many times mythshutdown --check
[16:12] <spoky99> yes I know
[16:13] <spoky99> I read someting about put env into sudoers file
[16:13] <gedakc> So then there is something causing mythshutdown --check to report that "It is not okay to shutdown".
[16:13] <spoky99> I son't know, I suppose
[16:14] <gedakc> You can check from the command line by running "mythshutdown --check" and then immediately looking at the return code.
[16:14] <gedakc> Use "echo $?" to get the return code of the last executed command.
[16:15] <spoky99> ahaha
[16:15] <spoky99> they return
[16:15] <spoky99> OK to shutdown
[16:16] <gedakc> By OK do you mean it returns zero "0" or a non-zero value?
[16:16] <spoky99> no return exactly "OK to shutdown"
[16:17] <spoky99> and mythbackend repeat
[16:17] <gedakc> Hmm...
[16:18] <spoky99> I managed child (pid 292020) has started! command=/usr/bin/mythshutdown --check, timeout=0
[16:18] <gedakc> If it is "OK to shutdown", then mythtv is supposed to run the "command to set wakeup time".
[16:18] <spoky99> I managed child (pid 292020) has started! command=/usr/bin/mythshutdown --check, status=32512, result=127
[16:19] <gedakc> result=127? I thought the return code had to be zero to shutdown...
[16:21] <spoky99> I cat /proc/driver/rtc and... the wakeup time is the same of the next record
[16:21] <gedakc> Okay. I assume same time of upcoming recording minus a few minutes to allow the system to start up.
[16:21] <spoky99> return could be 0 and not 127?
[16:22] <gedakc> It is possible that "result" is not equal to "return code".
[16:22] <gedakc> It would seem that the time is being set in the RTC for the next recording.
[16:23] <gedakc> So.... that means that there might be a problem with the actual shutdown command.
[16:23] <spoky99> yes, seem thath setwakeup $time is execute
[16:23] <gedakc> What do you have "Server halt command" set to?
[16:23] <gedakc> Mine is:
[16:23] <gedakc> sudo sh -c "mythshutdown --shutdown"
[16:25] <spoky99> I'm rebooting
[16:25] <spoky99> I copy the shutdown comand into a terminal and it work
[16:26] <spoky99> mythwelcome comand
[16:26] <spoky99> now, when reboot I restart mythtv-setup and copy the mythshutdown path into a terminal
[16:27] <gedakc> Okay. It should shutdown then.
[16:28] <gedakc> Did it reboot by itself, or did you power it on?
[16:29] <gedakc> Mine used to go into a reboot loop. To stop it I had to set "Command to reboot" to "/sbin/poweroff".
[16:30] <spoky99> I look some strange thing
[16:31] <spoky99> copy the command directly into the bash there is a return from mythshutdown and --
[16:34] <spoky99> I understand the problem, launch sudo -sh -c "/usr/bin/mythshutdown --shutdown" from bash ask me password
[16:34] <spoky99> I could insert sh into sudoers
[16:35] <gedakc> Yes, that is needed.
[16:35] <gedakc> /sbin/shutdown, /bin/sh, /usr/bin/setwakeup.sh, /usr/bin/mythshutdown, /sbin/poweroff, /sbin/reboot
[16:36] <spoky99> now from bash it work! :)
[16:36] <spoky99> was ok for the other command I don't insert /bin/sh
[16:37] <gedakc> I think you might have solved the problem. :-)
[16:38] <spoky99> I'm ceck it!
[16:38] <spoky99> thank's
[16:38] <gedakc> You're welcome.
[16:38] <spoky99> :D
[16:38] <spoky99> work it!!!!
[16:39] <gedakc> Congratulations!
[16:39] <spoky99> It was giving birth!
[16:39] <spoky99> ahahahaha
[16:40] <spoky99> I owe you one
[16:40] <gedakc> I hope you enjoy your working PVR. :-)
[16:40] <spoky99> ahaha
[16:41] <spoky99> I use mythtv for 12 year, the old old hardware it worked with nvram-wakeup -_-
[16:42] <spoky99> and worked fine for a long time, acpi is not the same :P
[16:42] <gedakc> Yes, it is a challenge to keep up with changing hardware.
[16:42] <gedakc> I've only been using MythTV since 2011. I built 3 PVRs the exact same for family and a friend.
[16:44] <gedakc> And regarding "you owe me one", just pass the favour along to the next person needing help. :-)
[16:46] <spoky99> I did and I will continue to do so
[16:46] <gedakc> Cool. You don't owe me anything. 'Glad to help.
[16:47] <spoky99> nothing is due
[16:47] <gedakc> :-)
[16:49] <spoky99> I remember two guys, one help me many times the other tell me 10 years ago that the analogic audio output was outdated
[16:50] <spoky99> and my audio problem was not a problem :)
[16:51] <gedakc> There is a lot of trial and error involved with helping others.
[16:51] <gedakc> The same goes for diagnosing and fixing problems by yourself. ;-)
[16:52] <gedakc> Anyways, I'm off for now. Have a great day spoky99!
[16:54] <spoky99> now I could invent a way to decrease the temperature into the mobo without noise, with summer don't work well
[16:54] <spoky99> thanks
[16:54] <spoky99> and bye!
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-no
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[12:43] <qwebirc27811> Hei jeg trenger hjelp med noe på ubuntu som gjelder minecraft
[12:44] <qwebirc27811> jeg prøver og starte minecraft og jeg har lastet ned et kart jeg skal bruke
[12:44] <qwebirc27811> men vet ikke hvordan
[12:44] <qwebirc27811> jeg er ganske ny på ubuntu
[13:20] <RoyK> qwebirc27811: Malinux bruker vel minecraft p[ en linux/server, tror jeg
[13:20] <RoyK> på
[13:20] <RoyK> og klient
[13:20] <RoyK> men veit ikke om hun er her akkurat nå
[14:35] <_404`d> qwebirc27811: Om du snakker om Minecraft klienten så finner du Linux varianten av "%AppData%/Minecraft" på "~/.minecraft"
[14:35] <_404`d> Altså, mappen ".minecraft" (en skjult mappe) inne i hjemmemappen din.
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-cm
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[05:42] <ariabbas> .
[08:05] <coco1> ..
[08:15] <IzaneFG> Hello!
[08:17] <ongolaBoy> bonjour :)
[08:17] <IzaneFG> J'ai toujours un souci avec le launchpad depuis j'arrive pas à changer de mot de passe :-(
[08:18] <IzaneFG> et now je veux publier l'annonce de la release party de samedi j'arrive pas.
[08:18] <IzaneFG> So je vais transférer à quelqu'un qui a les droits :D
[08:18] <ongolaBoy> ok
[08:31] <IzaneFG> ongolaBoy: envoyé ;-)
[08:31] <IzaneFG> coco1 appelle coco11 :D
[08:52] <coco11> ..
[08:53] <coco11> IzaneFG: content de te voir connecté :-D ici ça se passe bien ?
[08:53] <coco11> Bonjour à tous, un oeil ailleurs...
[08:53] <IzaneFG> Mouep ça va, no souci :)
[08:54] <coco1> cool!
[08:56] <coco1> Ceux qui ont les droits c'est : septox, ariabbas et ongolaBoy, mais la question c'est qui est dispos parmi eux ;-)
[08:58] <coco1> ongolaBoy: je t'ai vu sur FRnOG
[08:58] <IzaneFG> ils sont dispo lol
[08:58] <IzaneFG> indy21 a aussi les droits :)
[08:59] <coco1> .
[08:59] <coco1> Il n'est pas là ah ah!
[08:59] <coco1> Mais ton souci avec le pswd c quoi?
[09:04] <IzaneFG> coco1: lorsque je veux changer de mot de passe, çe me donne une erreur
[09:07] <coco1> Bizarre, je pense qu'il faut écrire au support de launchpad, car ce serait difficile que ce soit un problème de navigateur hein :-/
[09:12] <IzaneFG> ouep! pas de problème de navigateur je pense
[09:14] <coco1> ok courage
[09:14] <coco1> IzaneFG:
[09:24] <ongolaBoy> IzaneFG: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/kmer/3137-release-party-ubuntu-1504/
[09:25] <coco1> ..
[09:26] <IzaneFG> ongolaBoy: Cool :)
[09:26] <IzaneFG> Merci! ;)
[15:09] <ariabbas> .
[15:09] <ariabbas> ca abavarder ici today :-D
[15:21] <IzaneFG> un peu :)
[16:05] <ariabbas> .
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-ar
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[01:17] <alma_> hola
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2015-06-11-#launchpad
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[00:53] <shaderslayer> any clue why this would happen https://launchpadlibrarian.net/208794199/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-i386.shashlik_0-0ubuntu1~ppa1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[00:54] <shaderslayer> the package with the correct version is in the PPA
[01:08] <shaderslayer> cjwatson: ^^ any clue?
[01:11] <teward> shaderslayer: potentially because that version is superseded by the repositories, but I"m not an expert
[01:11] <teward> (1.4+svn... is greater than the version you specify, by default i think systems install NewestVersion?)
[01:11] <shaderslayer> surely the dep resolver can install the older version?
[01:12] <teward> as I said, i'm not an expert, that's just an initial look at it suggesting something like that
[01:13] <shaderslayer> right
[01:18] <shaderslayer> hm
[08:33] <hyperair> hey how do i change a decision to decline someone who tried to join a team?
[08:33] * hyperair clicked the wrong button
[08:33] * hyperair meant to accept the request
[08:34] <cjwatson> If you have the ability to do that, you should also be able to just add them to the team directly
[11:19] <irl> Hi, when a package on Launchpad that has come from Debian but has no changes in Ubuntu has a "Maintainer", what does that actually mean?
[11:19] <irl> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/direwolf lists some guy called Frank
[11:20] <irl> but the only time I've ever heard of Frank is the time he tried to link the debian-hams mailing list to his launchpad account.
[11:50] <cjwatson> irl: That's probably why it's linked to him; at the time when the most recent version of that package was imported, that was the account that [email protected] resolved to
[11:50] <irl> ah ok
[11:50] <irl> how do i undo this?
[11:51] <cjwatson> It would fix itself the next time a new version is imported
[11:52] <irl> ok. is it possible to create a Debian Hams group on launchpad to track bugs and stuff?
[11:52] <cjwatson> I'm just trying to work out whether it's possible to fix it in its current state without database surgery
[11:54] <cjwatson> You can create teams freely, sure. Have a look through help.launchpad.net first to think about how you want to model whatever you're doing
[11:55] <cjwatson> Yeah, SourcePackageRelease isn't exported on the API, I think this would take database surgery to fix, which I'm loath to do unless we have to
[11:57] <irl> it's not massively important
[11:57] <irl> as long as it fixes when i do next upload
[11:57] <irl> i'm working on an upload for that package right now anyway
[12:00] <cjwatson> Yep, should do
[12:01] <irl> "To claim this team, enter one of the e-mail addresses it is associated with. (We are not showing you the list of addresses to protect Debian Hamradio Maintainers's privacy in case you don't run it.) We will e-mail that address to ask for confirmation. "
[12:01] <irl> that's a problem
[12:01] <irl> we can't have the mailing list being able to have control over the account
[12:01] <irl> as it's a public mailing list
[12:02] <cjwatson> Right, create a new team, don't reuse the existing ~debian-hams
[12:02] <irl> but then none of the packages would be associated with it?
[12:03] <cjwatson> So? Maintainer is informational anyway :)
[12:03] <cjwatson> You can still subscribe another team to bugs on the package
[12:04] <irl> seems not very automated
[12:04] <cjwatson> Full automation via Debian uploads isn't likely to happen; it would be inappropriate for us to auto-subscribe Debian maintainers to Ubuntu bugs on their packages
[12:05] <cjwatson> Some people want it, some don't
[12:06] <cjwatson> It would certainly be possible to automate keeping the subscriptions in sync at your end with an API client if you wanted to do that
[12:06] <cjwatson> But this is a case where the desired outcome varies quite a bit so it's better to have the policy live outside of Launchpad
[12:06] <irl> i'll look into doing that at some point
[19:03] <shaderslayer> cjwatson: any news on the git tagging import
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2015-06-11-#kubuntu
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[00:04] <Guest28416> hi how to make bootable usb kubuntu 15.04
[00:37] <thelionroars> got a workaround on the kubuntuforums
[01:04] <zenfox_> i'm getting "Cannot mix incompatible Qt library " during Dropbox installation
[01:44] <lnxmen> Hello
[01:44] <lnxmen> Is it possible to install KDE4 on Kubuntu 15.04?
[08:08] <CapsAdmin> in kde5.2 (is this the right channel?) is there a way to search for applications first rather than files in the "start menu" ?
[08:09] <CapsAdmin> hmm nevermind
[08:09] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:09] <CapsAdmin> i was looking for software center but it's named something different when searching for it
[08:10] <lordievader> CapsAdmin: It's called Muon under Kubuntu ;)
[08:11] <CapsAdmin> yeah but it's called "Software Center" under applications > settings
[08:11] <CapsAdmin> or at least mainly :p
[08:11] <CapsAdmin> says muon below
[08:19] <amichair> is there a simple plasma 5 widget that can show the cpu temperature on the panel?
[09:08] <gangsta> hello i am using netrunner 16 and kwin crahes when playing openspades but drkonqi doesn't show up although there is a process, so I can't report bug, what to do? Sorry for the broken english.
[09:11] <lordievader> gangsta: Netrunner is not supported here. Seek help in #kwin or #kde or Netrunners own channel ;)
[09:11] <gangsta> ok thank you
[09:38] <ShalokShalom> hi there
[09:38] <ShalokShalom> kubuntu will adopt Calamares like the Netrunner editons ?
[09:38] <ShalokShalom> and a dotzen of other distros ? :D
[09:48] <alvin> mmm, Calamares.
[09:48] <alvin> Isn't that a kind of squid?
[09:48] <alvin> We're talking food or proxy servers here?
[10:44] <xennex81> hi peeps
[10:52] <lordievader> Hey xennex81
[10:56] <xennex81> how are you?
[10:58] <lordievader> Doing good. Got my server back up and running.
[10:58] <xennex81> nice
[10:59] <lordievader> It was annoying, lvm somehow decided a couple lv's were partial...
[11:00] <lordievader> Plus side, I now have plenty of free space :)
[11:03] <xennex81> :)
[11:03] <xennex81> partial?
[11:04] <lordievader> For the root-lv I can understand it, a drive failed. The root-lv was mirrored. But for the other lv's I didn't understand it. All the data was there.
[11:05] <xennex81> you mean in a raid setting?
[11:05] <lordievader> xennex81: Yes, lvm can do raid.
[11:05] <xennex81> I don't know how LVM works with multiple drives
[11:06] <xennex81> ok
[11:06] <lordievader> It pretty much uses mdraid for the raid configs.
[11:06] <xennex81> ok, I just have a debian box with raid but it is just multiple partitions, no LVM
[11:07] <lordievader> LVM is awesome :)
[11:07] <xennex81> I know :)
[11:07] <xennex81> It is lovely to be able to remove and create volumes at will.
[11:08] <lordievader> Exactly ;)
[11:16] <Walex2> it is usually a pointless thing to do
[11:16] <lordievader> What is?
[11:19] <ShalokShalom> alvin: its a distribution independend installer, financed by bluesystems ;)
[11:19] <ShalokShalom> http://calamares.io/
[11:19] <alvin> Oh, fine. Never understood what's wrong with the Debian installer though. Does it support UEFI? (Netrunner does not)
[11:20] <ShalokShalom> yes
[11:20] <ShalokShalom> even automatic partitioning with uefi now
[11:20] <alvin> ok. And maybe even encrypted LVM with logical volumes of you choice instead of 1 big root?
[11:20] <ShalokShalom> Kogaion, KaOS, both Netrunner Versions (Kubuntu and Manjaro), Manjaro itself, Tanglu, BBQLinux, Chakra, Kannolo, OpenMandriva,
[11:20] <ShalokShalom> MauiOS and probably ROSA choose to use it as there (upcoming) installer, PCLinuxOS and Sabayon consider it as well.
[11:20] <lordievader> ShalokShalom: If Kubuntu stays Kubuntu I think we'll see Ubiquity for quite some time.
[11:20] <ShalokShalom> alvin: not yet, afaik
[11:20] <ShalokShalom> ah, ok :)
[11:21] <ShalokShalom> thought a Qt installer for a qt distro makes sense :)
[11:21] <alvin> It does. I wouldn't mind. I just like the Debian installer just fine.
[11:21] <ShalokShalom> lordievader: canonical says that ? :O
[11:21] <lordievader> Ubiquity has a Qt frontend, that is what Kubuntu uses.
[11:21] <ShalokShalom> aha
[11:21] <ShalokShalom> complely gtk free ?
[11:21] <ShalokShalom> fine :)
[11:21] <lordievader> For as far as I know, yes.
[11:21] <ShalokShalom> thanks
[11:31] <CapsAdmin> in kubuntu 15 i tried to assign some shortcuts but reset the settings to default but now it seems like a lot of shortcuts went poof
[11:34] <CapsAdmin> also when i click reset in the shortcut settings it duplicates all the propertiers
[11:34] <CapsAdmin> alt tab isn't working anymore and ctrl s in kate says all the shortcuts are ambiguous
[12:01] <xennex81> you know I'm actually happy to let other people work out the bugs until I step into Kubuntu 15 ;-)
[12:02] <xennex81> i think "poor souls" ;D
[12:03] <xennex81> i just ran into one bug just one, in Kubuntu 14.10 the option to add additional file types does not work (in Dolphin) I have tried to add a .tc filetype for truecrypt containers, but alas.
[12:09] <xennex81> I've added the file association, it is definitely there, and yet Dolphin doesn't show it
[12:13] <xennex81> oh it required a log-out
[12:13] <xennex81> I have my file association now
[12:19] <xennex81> I just run TrueCrypt from a desktop icon and I have it set to always run as root, this way it even retains the mounts during logout and it handles the permissions perfectly
[12:20] <xennex81> it just mounts them under my user
[12:20] <xennex81> the only reason I use Kubuntu is because it looks so nice :P :P >D
[12:22] <ShalokShalom> xennex81: so the only reason, why you use kubuntu, is plasma
[12:22] <xennex81> well it is pleasant to hang around in this system when it looks so nice
[12:23] <xennex81> compared to windows
[12:24] <xennex81> only the truecrypt icon offends, it is written for gnome and the icon doesn't display a transparent background
[12:24] <xennex81> it tries to use Nautilus when I want to open a share
[12:25] <xennex81> Nautilus doesn't work well in Kubuntu
[12:28] <ShalokShalom> it is default ?
[12:28] <xennex81> I feel everything should just move to Kubuntu/KDE in terms of app development
[12:28] <ShalokShalom> this icon =
[12:28] <ShalokShalom> ?
[12:28] <ShalokShalom> xennex81: yep :D
[12:28] <ShalokShalom> much does
[12:28] <ShalokShalom> at least to qt
[12:28] <xennex81> it is no worth to keep doing Gnome etc.
[12:28] <xennex81> yeah
[12:28] <ShalokShalom> at least 10 apps and 2 DEs switch to it
[12:28] <xennex81> ok
[12:29] <ShalokShalom> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON0A1dsQOV0
[12:31] <xennex81> nice thanks
[12:32] <xennex81> I've done a *very little bit* of GTK programming just to try it out
[12:32] <xennex81> with Python, pygtk2
[12:35] <xennex81> it was very hard
[12:35] <xennex81> i still want to continue it
[12:36] <ShalokShalom> yep :)
[12:36] <ShalokShalom> watch the video, it change my mind
[12:37] <ShalokShalom> he isnt the only one and to port a app from one toolkit to the other means a great effort :)
[12:37] <ShalokShalom> so they do it for a reason, imho
[12:37] <xennex81> yeah
[12:39] <xennex81> the pygtk documentation was ripped from the C documentation but only incompletely
[12:39] <ShalokShalom> ah, ok
[12:39] <ShalokShalom> nice to know
[12:39] <xennex81> so I couldn't really find out why something worked the way it did (or didn't work the way it should have) until I read the C source code to GTK or PyGTK
[12:39] <ShalokShalom> i guess the compatibility for other plattforms and the resulting support by more devs is another pro
[12:41] <xennex81> the difficult thing about Qt is that I do not only need to learn C++, but also a complete programming framework
[12:41] <ShalokShalom> xennex81: why do you need to learn C++ ?
[12:42] <ShalokShalom> write it in each language you will
[12:42] <xennex81> I don't know, are there good python wrappers etc? Okay
[12:42] <ShalokShalom> javascript is also officialy supported
[12:42] <xennex81> okay
[12:42] <ShalokShalom> xennex81: yes
[12:42] <xennex81> it just feels very C++ to me
[12:42] <ShalokShalom> yep
[12:42] <ShalokShalom> i prefer python as well :)
[12:42] <xennex81> "C++ written by monkeys high on crack"
[12:43] <ShalokShalom> calamares, the upcoming distro agnostic installer framework, is also written in python and C++ with qt5
[12:43] <ShalokShalom> xennex81: haha, yeah ;)
[12:43] <ShalokShalom> Rust will take it to the next level
[12:43] <ShalokShalom> :)
[12:44] <xennex81> okay sounds good
[12:45] <xennex81> i didn't understand, build times went up with qt?
[12:45] <ShalokShalom> why you asking ?
[12:46] <ShalokShalom> Rust is mozillas language for the servo engine
[12:46] <ShalokShalom> improved C++
[12:46] <ShalokShalom> new and written from scratch
[12:46] <ShalokShalom> there are even 2 python/qt bindings: PyQt and PySide
[12:47] <xennex81> ok
[12:47] <xennex81> i mean about the presentation
[12:48] <xennex81> model and view system in Qt is pretty much completely broken
[12:48] <xennex81> verbosity
[12:50] <xennex81> QCreator
[12:52] <xennex81> I like how he just speak his truth
[12:52] <xennex81> the truth
[12:54] <ShalokShalom> xennex81: #qt-creator
[12:57] <xennex81> it sounds like very hard to do regardless, I was just using Delphi back in the day and it was easy
[12:58] <ShalokShalom> xennex81: ah, ok
[12:59] <ShalokShalom> Delphi XE is the binding to qt
[12:59] <ShalokShalom> there is even a thrid python binding: pythonqt
[12:59] <ShalokShalom> maybe also in your interest: Delphi XE
[13:00] <ShalokShalom> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMupnSomHwg
[13:01] <xennex81> I'm watching the Wayland vs X thing now
[13:04] <xennex81> bbl
[13:08] <ShalokShalom> please share me that video then :)
[13:13] <capsadmin> my desktop crashed i restarted and now it won't start except a window of dolphin was there
[13:13] <capsadmin> as if i killed the startmenu sonehow and its remembering that it was closed before restart
[13:13] <capsadmin> how would i start it again?
[13:24] <CapsAdmin> test
[13:24] <ShalokShalom> ping
[13:24] <CapsAdmin> ok so on 15 my whole desktop dissapeared
[13:25] <CapsAdmin> it launched a dolphin instance (since that's what i had last up) before restart and from there i managed to launch konversation and chromium
[13:26] <CapsAdmin> more specifically the task bar and the destkop activity thing (i had it set to folder)
[13:28] <ShalokShalom> welcome to the world of kubuntu :P
[13:29] <CapsAdmin> lol
[13:30] <CapsAdmin> ShalokShalom: 15 seemed suprisngly unstable but other than all the bugs im running into it seems very sleek
[13:30] <ShalokShalom> suprisingly ?
[13:30] <ShalokShalom> its, as always, a dev edition
[13:30] <ShalokShalom> and ships 2 new heavy features/changes
[13:31] <ShalokShalom> not only the complete plasma 5 including wayland and xwayland
[13:31] <ShalokShalom> also systemd
[13:31] <CapsAdmin> i was on debian 8 with kde 4 before and wanted to see what kde 5 was like
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Hello all
[13:32] <CapsAdmin> ShalokShalom: so i went to kubuntu.org
[13:32] <CapsAdmin> "Kubuntu 15.04 — Latest Release, Stable and Supported"
[13:33] <ShalokShalom> CapsAdmin: if you want to see plasma 5, i can share you a link :)
[13:33] <ShalokShalom> BluesKaj: hi
[13:33] <CapsAdmin> 15 is not plasma 5?
[13:33] <CapsAdmin> kubuntu 15.04
[13:34] <ShalokShalom> it is
[13:34] <BluesKaj> Hi ShalokShalom
[13:34] <ShalokShalom> there are other distros, who ship it
[13:34] <CapsAdmin> ah
[13:34] <CapsAdmin> well the drivers and what nto seem fine
[13:34] <BluesKaj> plasma 5 and KF5
[13:35] <CapsAdmin> most of the issues i've run into are from the desktop environment i think
[13:35] <CapsAdmin> so right now i have no task bar, it went poof after installing synaptic
[13:36] <CapsAdmin> shortcuts in general seem broken after defaulting them
[13:36] <CapsAdmin> the software center is kind of annoying to use because the search freezes a lot
[13:36] <CapsAdmin> as if it's blocking
[13:37] <CapsAdmin> my laptop is kinda old though
[13:37] <nexia> plasmashell constantly crashing ...after a few days of working.
[13:37] <ShalokShalom> CapsAdmin: private message
[13:38] <nexia> I just did i3.
[13:38] <ShalokShalom> nexia: stable here since months
[13:38] <nexia> ShalokShalom: funny it didn't really work for me again, constant plasmashell crashing. "segmentation fault" IIRC
[13:39] <nexia> google search history: Executable: plasmashell PID: 1572 Signal: Segmentation fault (11)
[13:39] <nexia> so yeah :|
[13:40] <ShalokShalom> in KaOS
[13:40] <BluesKaj> upgrade to plasma 5.3 fixes a lot of problems, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/kde-plasma-5-3-released-heres-how-to-upgrade-in-kubuntu-15-04
[13:41] <BluesKaj> nexia,^
[13:42] <CapsAdmin> thanks ill try that
[13:43] <ShalokShalom> :)
[13:43] <ShalokShalom> 5.3.1 is out ?
[13:43] <ShalokShalom> not packages yet ?
[13:43] <ShalokShalom> packaged
[14:41] <ejay> hi all. I did install new plasma packeges from backports. Is it the newest possible version of plasma I can get?
[14:41] <ShalokShalom> is it 5.3 ?
[14:41] <CapsAdmin> hi
[14:41] <ShalokShalom> 5.3.1 is out, i guess its not packaged
[14:41] <ShalokShalom> CapsAdmin: work it for you ?
[14:41] <ShalokShalom> :)
[14:41] <nexia> BluesKaj: hey, thanks, didn't know that
[14:42] <lordievader> It was in staging... hasn't it landed in backports?
[14:42] <CapsAdmin> it did update i think but i'm still stuck without any desktop
[14:42] <lordievader> It = 5.3.1
[14:42] <ShalokShalom> so newest, yes
[14:42] <mr-rich> Kubuntu 14.04 - running updater ... keeps hanging at "waiting for configuration file" ... just sits there ... any ideas?
[14:42] <lordievader> CapsAdmin: Is plasma-desktop running?
[14:42] <CapsAdmin> i don't think so
[14:42] <CapsAdmin> how do i start it?
[14:42] <CapsAdmin> it's kinda like on windows if you kill explorer.exe
[14:43] <CapsAdmin> it's probably easy to start but i have no idea how
[14:43] <lordievader> CapsAdmin: Drop to a tty to check if it is running. (ctr + alt + f1, ctrl + alt +f7 to return)
[14:43] <CapsAdmin> how do i check if it's running?
[14:43] <CapsAdmin> (i'm not a linux expert really)
[14:44] <CapsAdmin> i tend to just stick to using gui except when i need to build stuff
[14:44] <lordievader> CapsAdmin: ps aux|grep plasma-desktop
[14:44] <nexia> I don't know how to see processes either, or at least I don't remember heh. (I use ctrl+alt+f1 frequently though)
[14:44] <nexia> ah..ps ofc
[14:45] <CapsAdmin> plasmashell is running
[14:45] <CapsAdmin> i used ksysguard
[14:46] <lordievader> CapsAdmin: Do you have a tool bar?
[14:46] <CapsAdmin> the thing is when i start my laptop there's a dolphin window where i use f4 to get the terminal for the current folder and start stuff from there
[14:46] <CapsAdmin> i don't, ican't right click on desktop either
[14:46] <CapsAdmin> there's a screen edge thing though in the upper left corner
[14:47] <lordievader> CapsAdmin: Are you using the opengl backend of kwin?
[14:47] <CapsAdmin> i think so. i installed the nvidia drivers
[14:47] <CapsAdmin> i also get the nvidia logo
[14:48] <CapsAdmin> just to be clear i can use the desktop it's just that the taskbar and desktop folder behind it is completely gone
[14:48] <CapsAdmin> i'm using konversation on it right now
[14:48] <lordievader> CapsAdmin: Try if the xrender backend does give you a wallpaper.
[14:49] <mr-rich> Kubuntu 14.04 - running software updater (muon, I think) ... keeps hanging at "waiting for configuration file" ... just sits there ... any ideas?
[14:49] <CapsAdmin> lordievader: i can launch an opengl 3.3 application i've developed if that gives you any clues
[14:50] <CapsAdmin> how do i switch the backend though?
[14:52] <lordievader> CapsAdmin: Through the systemsettings somewhere. (They moved things around is somewhere under display settings now)
[14:52] <CapsAdmin> what's the name of the desktop? like if i type konversation in terminal it launches konversation, what's the name for the desktop itself?
[14:52] <CapsAdmin> taskbar/launcher and desktop
[14:53] <CapsAdmin> no such command as systemsettings or system-settings
[14:55] <lordievader> CapsAdmin: Plasma
[14:55] <lordievader> Plasma5 to be precise.
[14:55] <BluesKaj> CapsAdmin, lookin in the kmenu >appls>settings
[14:56] <CapsAdmin> plasmapkg plasma-remote-helper plasmawindowed
[14:56] <CapsAdmin> plasmapkg2 plasmashell
[14:56] <CapsAdmin> those autocomplete when i type plasma*TAB*
[14:56] <lordievader> CapsAdmin: It is the name of the desktop, not of a command.
[14:56] <CapsAdmin> i'm asking for commands because id on't have a desktop (for some reason)
[14:56] <CapsAdmin> i'm not sure if you understand my issue lol
[14:56] <CapsAdmin> probably unusual
[14:57] <lordievader> Meh, it happens.
[14:57] <CapsAdmin> ok so just to recap, i installed synaptic and after that was done plasma crashed and dissapeared leaving only the windows up
[14:57] <CapsAdmin> i restarted and it was still gone
[14:58] <CapsAdmin> the plasma desktop or whatever has crashed a lot really so idk if it was because i installed synaptic
[14:58] <CapsAdmin> does that make more sense?
[14:59] <CapsAdmin> so my background is black but i see the wndows and such fine but i have to launch everything through a terminal
[14:59] <CapsAdmin> cause the launcher is gone
[15:03] <BluesKaj> CapsAdmin, next time install muon
[15:03] <CapsAdmin> what's that?
[15:03] <lordievader> CapsAdmin: Do you have the issue too with a new user?
[15:03] <CapsAdmin> hmm i'm not sure how to create a new user
[15:03] <CapsAdmin> at least not with bash
[15:03] <BluesKaj> it'' a replacemnt for synaptic
[15:03] <CapsAdmin> how can i open system settings from bash?
[15:03] <CapsAdmin> ah okay, qt based i guess?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> kdesudo systemsettings5
[15:04] <lordievader> CapsAdmin: man useradd
[15:04] <CapsAdmin> BluesKaj: thnaks
[15:05] <BluesKaj> CapsAdmin, or use krunner , alt+f2 , type systemsetings
[15:05] <BluesKaj> with 2 ts of course
[15:06] <CapsAdmin> alt + f2 doesn't do anything
[15:06] <CapsAdmin> maybe it requires the destkop
[15:07] <BluesKaj> oops
[15:07] <BluesKaj> yes it does, doh!
[15:07] <lordievader> No it doesn't, just krunner.
[15:08] <CapsAdmin> oh that thing
[15:08] <BluesKaj> why not just drop to a VT/TTY, ctl+alt+f1-f6 and update and upgrade after removing synaptic
[15:08] <CapsAdmin> nothing seems to hapepn whatever i type in it
[15:09] <CapsAdmin> if i press enter it doesn't do anything
[15:09] <CapsAdmin> i'll try that
[15:09] <CapsAdmin> the system settings seem kinda broken
[15:09] <CapsAdmin> no icons
[15:10] <BluesKaj> ok, sounds like you're left with only a partial installation
[15:10] <mr-rich> Hello. Running Kubuntu 14.04 - running software updater (muon, I think) ... keeps hanging at "waiting for configuration file" ... just sits there ... any ideas?
[15:11] <CapsAdmin> i can probably just reinstall but im kinda curious
[15:11] <lordievader> CapsAdmin: Reinstall the plasma-desktop package.
[15:11] <CapsAdmin> alright
[15:11] <BluesKaj> CapsAdmin, think update, upgrade, and dist-upgrade will be enough
[15:22] <CapsAdmin> that didn't work etiher
[15:22] <CapsAdmin> hmm
[15:22] <CapsAdmin> i didn't try adding a new user though
[15:22] <ShalokShalom> CapsAdmin: you have PM
[15:22] <CapsAdmin> i'm being auto logged in
[15:22] <CapsAdmin> i do?
[15:24] <CapsAdmin> i have to go for a bit
[15:46] <crimson_> Is anyone currently having copy/cut/paste issues with 15.04?
[16:19] <lordievader> CapsAdmin: So try it ;)
[16:40] <CapsAdmin> back
[16:40] <CapsAdmin> lordievader: try what?
[16:40] <lordievader> CapsAdmin: The new user, see if that has the same problem.
[16:40] <CapsAdmin> oh right
[16:49] <artlu> hi. i'm using kubuntu 14.04 and if I connect to ssh servers using dolphin (sftp:// or fish://) I can open the files, but when I edit and save them for example in kate or geany, it doesn't get re-uploaded. only when I close the editor, it asks if the file should get re-uploaded again. is there a possibility to re-upload the file directly on saving the file?
[16:54] <CapsAdmin> seems like creating a new user got me further. i got a background and a black taskbar for a bit and then it went black and i had to log out (ctrl alt del worked)
[17:04] <CapsAdmin> i think i'll just reinstall and do an immdeate update to 5.3
[17:12] <mr-rich> Hello. Running Kubuntu 14.04 - running software updater (muon, I think) ... keeps hanging at "waiting for configuration file" ... just sits there ... any ideas?
[17:22] <BluesKaj> mr-rich, are upgrading to 14.10? if so disable the updater LTS only option
[17:29] <kubuntu_> всем привет
[17:33] <BluesKaj> !ua | kubuntu_
[17:38] <EvilRoey> !ua | EvilRoey
[17:39] <EvilRoey> ahhh that's an interesting facility, thanks BluesKaj
[17:39] <EvilRoey> !thanks | BluesKaj
[17:39] <EvilRoey> eee ^_^
[17:44] <BluesKaj> !укр
[18:22] <amichair> is there a simple plasma 5 widget that can show the cpu temperature on the panel?
[19:01] <mparillo> This one http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/CPU+temperature+meter?content=159200 claims to work with Plasma 5. I don't need one, I just listen to the fan while my daughter plays minecraft.
[19:01] <amichair> mparillo: thanks, I'll check it out :-)
[19:03] <lordievader> If I need such a thing it is usually lm-sensors in a terminal somewhere.
[19:26] <mr-rich> BluesKaj: no ... sticking with LTS ... just trying to update ...
[19:30] <BluesKaj> mr-rich, then check your sources.list, there must be a mirror that's blocking
[19:31] <heeen> for some reason the energy savings panel stopped working
[19:32] <heeen> and I can't start the power management service
[19:32] <heeen> "unable to start server powerdevil"
[19:33] <heeen> can I start it from the cli to see debug messages?
[19:37] <heeen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11698153/
[19:38] <maksim_> эу
[19:50] <BluesKaj> mparillo, I tried to install cpu-tempearture-meter with plasmapkg -i after extracting , but no luck , altho the plasmapkger says it was successfully installed, altho the widget installer sees the package and it seems to finish, the cpu-temp doesn't show up ion the widgets list
[19:52] <BluesKaj> on 15.10, maybe it works on 15.04 plsama 5.3
[19:52] <heeen> i had the same issue with a plasma widget today
[19:54] <BluesKaj> heeen, 15.10 or 15.04?
[19:54] <heeen> wily werewolf
[19:54] <heeen> what is that again
[19:54] <heeen> 15.10
[19:55] <BluesKaj> wily is 15.10
[19:59] <heeen> hm no missing libraries it seems
[20:00] <capsadmin> after installing latest kubuntu and then immideatly updating to 5.3 by adding the ppa thing reboot and then installing the nvidia drivers recommended the desktop is gone again
[20:00] <capsadmin> alt f2 and such works though (so i launched konversation from that)
[20:00] <capsadmin> at least alt tab and shortcuts work now :p
[20:01] <heeen> anyone know how I can get some output from powerdevil
[20:01] <heeen> like why it could not be loaded
[20:01] <BluesKaj> capsadmin,the nvidia-340 recommended ?
[20:02] <capsadmin> yeah
[20:02] <capsadmin> i have a 130m, though it doesn't seem like it's a driver issue
[20:02] <capsadmin> or well idk much about linux but i wouldn't guess that it would be
[20:02] <capsadmin> the desktop is smooth it's just the plasma thing isn't running
[20:03] <BluesKaj> my desktop crashes now and then ,but returns in about 5secs, nvidia-340 here as well
[20:03] <capsadmin> i can launch webgl experiments and such in firefox
[20:03] <BluesKaj> but I'm on 15.10
[20:04] <capsadmin> earlier before upgrading to kde 5.3 my desktop would crash every now and then too
[20:04] <capsadmin> are tehre any logs i (or someone else ) can look at?
[20:04] <BluesKaj> yeah doubt thet it's a driver issue , but it's usually the first thing to check with desktop and graphics probs
[20:05] <BluesKaj> /var/log/syslog
[20:06] <capsadmin> the system section in KSystemLog is a gui interface for that?
[20:07] <heeen> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/dists/wily/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found
[20:07] <heeen> whats wrong here
[20:12] <heeen> hm only for vivid
[20:18] <BluesKaj> heeen, the ppas for kubuntu 15.10 are still in the kubuntu-next staging ppas, like this one https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next-staging
[20:20] <heeen> BluesKaj: what is the uri I can paste into muon for that
[20:20] <heeen> ppa:something
[20:20] <genii> !staging
[20:20] <genii> Hm
[20:21] <BluesKaj> and this https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next-stage2
[20:21] <heeen> it says don't use...
[20:22] <capsadmin> lol
[20:22] <regedit> well well
[20:22] <regedit> just installed kubuntu
[20:22] <BluesKaj> heeen, click at the" technical detal'
[20:23] <regedit> trying out linux world coming from a life of Windoes :)
[20:24] <BluesKaj> heeen, well, that's for users who want more stability , but if you want to test the latest packages and upgrades to those packages , those are ppas you need ,and you can find out more at #kubuntu-devel
[20:24] <regedit> so; i'd like to setup a local LAMP, but I already seem to have mysql for Akonadi purposes
[20:25] <heeen> BluesKaj: how hard would it be to downgrade
[20:25] <heeen> if something fails
[20:25] <BluesKaj> !lamp | regedit
[20:26] <regedit> BluesKaj: thanks, I hope it covers how to deal with Akonadi's mysql
[20:27] <BluesKaj> regedit, http://techtutorials.wikia.com/wiki/Kubuntu_Installing_LAMP
[20:29] <BluesKaj> heeen, well if you're worried and m=need more stability just don't install from those ppas
[20:30] <regedit> BluesKaj: still doesn't seem to take into account akonadi... maybe it's not an issue?
[20:32] <BluesKaj> regedit, sory i don't use konadi , and I'm not sure if it supports lamp
[20:32] <BluesKaj> akonadi that is
[20:32] <capsadmin> is the only option in alt f2 > system settings > desktop behavior > workspace "show informational tips" ?
[20:33] <capsadmin> i could've sworn that's where i changed my desktop to be a folder earlier
[20:33] <capsadmin> (i'm still having the issue where the desktop is gone but everything else works fine)
[20:33] <regedit> BluesKaj: well it's not really related to Lamp, but it doea have its own mysql server already installed & running off its own data folder
[20:33] <regedit> *does
[20:34] <regedit> BluesKaj: which seems problematic if i want to have a "generic" mysql running for like web purposes
[20:35] <capsadmin> in my offline documentation i have no workspace documentation either lol
[20:35] <capsadmin> it says "Documentation not Found"
[20:35] <capsadmin> so i'm guessing i'm missing the workspace component of kde5?
[20:36] <BluesKaj> yeah , regedit , akonadi is strictly for PIM Personal Information Management storage service , quote "It provides a common framework for applications to store and access mail, calendars, addressbooks, and other PIM data."
[20:37] <BluesKaj> capsadmin, are you installing ubuntu then adding KDE/kubuntu-desktop afterwards?
[20:38] <capsadmin> i installed latest kubuntu from the website and after that i added the ppa stuff to update to latest kde and then installed the recommended nvidia drivers
[20:38] <regedit> i'm going to guess/assume i can install mysql proper regardless of akonadi's mysql, let's see what happens...
[20:39] <capsadmin> i got the same issue before but that was even before i tried the latest kde from the ppa thing
[20:39] <capsadmin> i wanted to try and install latest from the ppa thing to see if that resolved it earlier but it didn't
[20:40] <capsadmin> i ran this:
[20:40] <capsadmin> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[20:40] <capsadmin> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:40] <BluesKaj> regedit, not a good idea, recommend you install ubuntu-server then add the kubuntu desktop during the install
[20:40] <capsadmin> right after clean install of 15.04
[20:40] <capsadmin> (without updates and third party software)
[20:43] <capsadmin> oh
[20:43] <BluesKaj> capsadmin, did you add the signing key for that ppa?
[20:43] <capsadmin> running plasmashell in konsole seemed to start it..
[20:44] <capsadmin> i didn't but i actually got something regarding that earlier and i just shrugged it off lol
[20:44] <capsadmin> but yeah if i run plasmashell in konsole it starts the desktop
[20:45] <capsadmin> that's really odd
[20:45] <capsadmin> i did try sudo apt-get install --reinstall plasma-workspace
[20:45] <capsadmin> let me try restarting to see if it exits again like before
[20:45] <BluesKaj> suggest you do , sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8AC93F7A
[20:46] <BluesKaj> capsadmin,^
[20:46] <capsadmin> done, but why do i have to? and why doesn't it work at all if i don't?
[20:46] <virtman7> are you guys fixing the task bar bug that came with ubunto 15.04?
[20:46] <BluesKaj> it opens the ppa
[20:47] <capsadmin> did i only get some updates then?
[20:47] <virtman7> i got it fixed...
[20:47] <BluesKaj> cap , yup, most likely
[20:47] <capsadmin> virtman7: what taskbar bug?
[20:47] <virtman7> some users reported the missing task bar or whatever it's called on the left
[20:48] <virtman7> a missing taskbar *
[20:48] <BluesKaj> run an update/upgrade/dist-upgrade again, capsadmin
[20:48] <virtman7> happened to me and fixed it out
[20:49] <capsadmin> BluesKaj: nothing to be upgraded
[20:49] <BluesKaj> virtman7, are talking about ubuntu or kubuntu...it's called the panel, the taskbar resides in the panel
[20:49] <capsadmin> virtman7: on login my screen just went black but i could still launch stuff like with alt f2
[20:49] <virtman7> ah. Thanks... I'm using u. Unity
[20:49] <capsadmin> but launching plasmashell created the taskbar for me, is that's what you mean?
[20:50] <BluesKaj> then join #ubuntu virtman7 , this is kubuntu support
[20:50] <virtman7> capsadmin> I was able tu successfully log into the desktop, except no panel
[20:50] <virtman7> so I created a new folder and new document
[20:50] <virtman7> and went from there with right-clocks to access apps
[20:51] <virtman7> then I went on and fixed my missing panel by reading a forum discussion
[20:51] <BluesKaj> virtman7, were talking about KDE/plasma desktop here , not Unity
[20:51] <virtman7> sure
[20:52] <BluesKaj> sure what ?
[20:53] <virtman7> just suggesting. You could extrapolate some ideas in order to fix other issues on KDE/Plasma
[20:53] <virtman7> anyhow........
[20:54] <virtman7> tryin' to be helpful.
[20:54] <BluesKaj> virtman7, extrapolation has nothing to do with it ...entirely different desktops
[20:55] <virtman7> OK
[20:55] <BluesKaj> anyway , it's been a long day ... I'm taking a break
[21:18] <chencho9000> hi there
[21:39] <chencho9000> kubuntu rocks the whole thing!
[21:46] <clivejo> hi chencho9000
[22:16] <regedit> how do i get text to look sharp? they're rather blurry all over the place
[22:17] <regedit> window titles, controls, content text...
[22:21] <capsadmin> is there a way to create a new "package enviorment" for programming? kinda like running a vm with linux specifically for programming but without the big overhead of a vm
[22:21] <capsadmin> or is this kinda silly
[23:35] <lordievader> capsadmin: You can look into linux containers.
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[00:02] <rsalveti> time to publish the new image :-)
[00:02] <rsalveti> and finalize the release
[00:04] <elopio> rsalveti: I'll be here for another hour. Let me know when it's done, to try an update from stable -1.
[00:04] <rsalveti> elopio: great
[00:19] <sergiusens> \o/
[00:20] <rsalveti> generic_amd64 should have image 3 already
[00:23] <rsalveti> sergiusens: elopio: image 3 should be available for both archs now
[00:25] <rsalveti> man, I hate this issue when using --install webdm
[00:26] <rsalveti> need to open a bug for that
[00:26] <elopio> rsalveti: this one also references beta: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/tutorials/build-snaps/
[00:26] <elopio> I'll update it, but it would be nice to somehow reference the ppa only from one page.
[00:27] <rsalveti> elopio: I already updated it
[00:27] <rsalveti> hit f5
[00:27] <elopio> rsalveti: great.
[00:28] <sergiusens> rsalveti: weird, it should happen always (since oem snaps are also installed).
[00:29] <rsalveti> can only reproduce when using --install
[00:29] <sergiusens> rsalveti: right, --install just appends to the slice (as does --oem)
[00:30] <sergiusens> rsalveti: in any case, I think I may know what it is, and can solve it by serializing a bit instead of so much parallelism
[00:30] <rsalveti> right
[00:32] <elopio> rsalveti: kvm happily updated, rolled back and updated again.
[00:32] <elopio> beagle in progress...
[00:33] <rsalveti> awesome, mine is still downloading
[00:38] * rsalveti kicks launchpad
[00:38] <rsalveti> giving a lot of errors when copying packages around
[00:38] <rsalveti> sigh
[00:39] <sergiusens> rsalveti: use the python lp libs
[00:39] <rsalveti> sergiusens: that works, but then the interface says it failed
[00:39] <rsalveti> like https://launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/+archive/ubuntu/beta/+packages
[00:40] <rsalveti> Launchpad encountered an internal error while copying this package. It was logged with id OOPS-c5d363b745138ca15db2f2fff68342c9. Sorry for the inconvenience.
[00:40] <rsalveti> failed for 2 packages
[00:40] <rsalveti> goget-ubuntu-touch and ubuntu-snappy, both for vivid
[00:40] <sergiusens> bummer
[00:40] <rsalveti> for other series it all worked fine
[00:41] <rsalveti> well, at least we're killing this PPA
[00:41] <rsalveti> so that's fine
[00:42] * rsalveti now kicks ubuntu-device-flash
[00:42] <rsalveti> tried 5 times, failed every single time
[00:42] <rsalveti> with --install
[00:42] <rsalveti> hahah
[00:46] <rsalveti> and now store gave up on me
[00:47] <rsalveti> 10k/s
[00:53] <sergiusens> rsalveti: did you copy package already?
[00:54] <rsalveti> sergiusens: yup
[00:54] <rsalveti> sergiusens: tools and tools-proposed are all in sync with latest
[00:54] <rsalveti> and beta as well
[00:54] <rsalveti> sergiusens: are we missing anything?
[00:54] <rsalveti> crap, I can't using --install!
[00:54] <sergiusens> rsalveti: nope, but I'm going to update and build some images
[00:54] <rsalveti> *use
[00:55] <sergiusens> rsalveti: what if you --install hello-world instead of webdm?
[00:55] <rsalveti> sergiusens: any quick hack or workaround I can use?
[00:55] <rsalveti> let me try
[00:56] <rsalveti> trying: sudo ubuntu-device-flash core 15.04 --channel stable --oem beagleblack --install=hello-world --enable-ssh --output ubuntu-15.04-snappy-armhf-bbb.img
[00:56] <rsalveti> sergiusens: same issue
[00:56] <rsalveti> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11693333/
[00:56] <rsalveti> let me open a bug
[00:57] <sergiusens> rsalveti: only with --install?
[00:57] <rsalveti> sergiusens: yup
[00:57] <sergiusens> rsalveti: if you don't it all works?
[00:57] <rsalveti> sergiusens: yup
[00:57] <rsalveti> no issue
[00:58] <sergiusens> rsalveti: the problem with that statement is that even if there isn't an --install, there is always at least one install called (and this is serialized)
[00:59] <rsalveti> sergiusens: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/goget-ubuntu-touch/+bug/1464054
[01:00] <rsalveti> let me try to create the image on another computer I have around
[01:04] <rsalveti> elopio: sergiusens: https://launchpad.net/snappy/+milestone/15.04.1
[01:04] <rsalveti> trying to update the pre-built images now, then upload and release to snappy-devel
[01:06] <sergiusens> rsalveti: oh wow, you can upload files directly to lp!
[01:06] <rsalveti> yup, when making releases
[01:06] <sergiusens> rsalveti: I run in a loop and I get this over and over http://paste.ubuntu.com/11693360/
[01:07] <sergiusens> rsalveti: it might be a race and easy for you to trigger as your machine is faster... not sure
[01:07] <rsalveti> interesting
[01:07] <rsalveti> maybe, also using vivid
[01:07] <elopio> rsalveti: nice.
[01:07] <sergiusens> rsalveti: in my xp, when talking go it usually doesn't matter; what is elopio using?
[01:08] <rsalveti> sergiusens: right, but I don't think go is the issue here
[01:08] <elopio> sergiusens: as in what distro? vivid.
[01:08] <rsalveti> maybe the external environment is helping causing the race
[01:08] <rsalveti> oh, and he got the same machine
[01:08] <sergiusens> elopio: rsalveti and you guys have the same computer
[01:08] <sergiusens> rsalveti: yeah ;-)
[01:08] <rsalveti> elopio: mind trying to reproduce 1464054 ?
[01:08] <rsalveti> bug 1464054
[01:09] <elopio> on it...
[01:12] <sergiusens> rsalveti: can you remove the channel part from First stable release for the 15.04 channel. ?
[01:12] <sergiusens> Making it "First stable release for 15.04"? since channels in the future represent something else
[01:12] <rsalveti> sure
[01:13] <sergiusens> oh, I think I can change that too :-P
[01:13] <rsalveti> sergiusens: yup
[01:13] <rsalveti> already did
[01:14] <sergiusens> rsalveti: I can reproduce slowing down the download ;-)
[01:15] <rsalveti> sergiusens: hahaha
[01:15] <elopio> sergiusens: rsalveti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11693402/
[01:15] <rsalveti> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/goget-ubuntu-touch/+bug/1464054/comments/3
[01:15] <rsalveti> for what you asked
[01:15] <elopio> this is from my desktop.
[01:15] <sergiusens> well not exactly reproduce, but something similar
[01:15] <rsalveti> yeah, same issue
[01:15] <rsalveti> at least it's consistent
[01:16] <elopio> hum, my beagle could update and rollback. But after the second update, I am now in emergency mode.
[01:16] <sergiusens> rsalveti: oh, it is the same issue
[01:16] <elopio> this happened to me last week too. Not sure how.
[01:16] <sergiusens> elopio: not good
[01:16] <rsalveti> yeah
[01:16] <rsalveti> we could really use some automated tests for beagle
[01:17] <rsalveti> to stress it
[01:17] <sergiusens> rsalveti: I slow down the download by installing a bigger package, there some semaphore missing somewhere
[01:17] <rsalveti> cool
[01:18] <sergiusens> rsalveti: did you also forget to push the tag for lp:goget-ubuntu-touch?
[01:18] <rsalveti> sergiusens: did I?
[01:18] * rsalveti looks
[01:19] <rsalveti> sergiusens: maybe it's launchpad, hit f5 and it should show the correct rev :P
[01:20] <sergiusens> rsalveti: I'm bzr pulling
[01:20] <rsalveti> damn
[01:20] <elopio> journalctl -xb is not particularly easy to read, but can you make sense of any of these errors? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11693431/
[01:22] <sergiusens> elopio: fat partition is busted
[01:22] <sergiusens> elopio: how sane is your sdcard?
[01:23] <elopio> sergiusens: I got it in austin, that's like a month ago. I have flashed it less than 20 times.
[01:23] <elopio> I can switch to a different one to see if it happens again during the week.
[01:23] <sergiusens> elopio: hmm, then that's not it; something is writing incorrectly or unmounting uncleanly and just being bad
[01:30] <elopio> https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/1464057
[01:30] <elopio> I attached the journal in there.
[01:31] <sergiusens> elopio: I think we already have a bug with this...
[01:31] <sergiusens> but we can search for it tomorrow
[01:31] <rsalveti> slangasek: one interesting question, how to update something at releases.ubuntu.com?
[01:31] <rsalveti> I thought it was also at nukasan
[01:32] <rsalveti> *nusakan
[01:32] <elopio> sergiusens: I found two similar, but the error messages they have don't appear in my journal.
[01:34] <rsalveti> sergiusens: yeah, also reproduced on trusty (my older machine)
[01:34] <rsalveti> problem is indeed the connection speed I guess
[01:37] <elopio> I'm going to the gym. bbl.
[01:53] <slangasek> rsalveti: releases.u.c is the /srv/cdimage.u.c/www/simple tree, as opposed to www/full
[01:54] <rsalveti> slangasek: oh, got it
[02:31] <sergiusens> rsalveti: so I'm seeing "install fails", returns an error, triggers the unmount path and for some reason the same process is still "using" it and blocking the unmount
[02:31] <sergiusens> I see it with docker only
[02:32] <sergiusens> docker failed to install: unable to create /var/lib/snappy/apparmor/policygroups/docker_client: open /var/lib/snappy/apparmor/policygroups/docker_client: file exists
[02:32] <rsalveti> hm, here I don't get a failure when installing it
[02:32] <rsalveti> sergiusens: was able to create the images with the uk vpn
[02:32] <sergiusens> rsalveti: there is no chance to print it out
[02:32] <rsalveti> store is a bit faster with the vpn
[02:32] <sergiusens> yeah, true
[03:14] <sergiusens> rsalveti: can you give this a quick try? https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/goget-ubuntu-touch/BeLazy/+merge/261679
[03:15] <rsalveti> sergiusens: sure
[03:15] <sergiusens> rsalveti: no need to approve or anything, I've been playing a bit to get rid of my self induced panic call in the code
[03:15] <sergiusens> rsalveti: so far, now docker fails to install here and errors out correctly
[03:16] <rsalveti> great, let me check
[03:16] <sergiusens> going to sleep now to be able to get some prep work for webdm topics tomorrow
[03:17] <rsalveti> sergiusens: great
[03:17] <rsalveti> will put the feedback in the MR
[03:17] <rsalveti> just waiting releases.ubuntu.com and cdimage to show my pre-built image and will send the announcement
[03:22] <rsalveti> sergiusens: ops, just found a bug =\
[03:22] <rsalveti> (amd64)ubuntu@localhost:~$ snappy info
[03:22] <rsalveti> release: ubuntu-core/15.04/stable
[03:22] <rsalveti> architecture: amd64
[03:22] <rsalveti> frameworks: webdm
[03:22] <rsalveti> apps:
[03:22] <rsalveti> webdm as a framework
[03:35] <elopio> rsalveti: I see the same. Not a regression though, same output on #2.
[03:35] <rsalveti> wonder if this is a tool issue
[03:36] <elopio> we were testing only snappy list -v. One more reason to get the selftests extended.
[03:37] <rsalveti> even when using snappy install it is still showing as framework
[03:37] <rsalveti> did we change it to be a framework?
[03:38] <rsalveti> failing to login now, weird
[03:39] <rsalveti> after installing webdm and rebooting
[03:39] <elopio> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/webdm/trunk/view/head:/pkg/meta/package.yaml#L5
[03:39] <rsalveti> yeah, then the doc is wrong
[03:39] <elopio> it is a framework. Now I'm really confused about what are frameworks.
[03:39] <rsalveti> maybe because it's exporting apis now
[03:40] <rsalveti> might be replaced for an app once we implement the rest api
[03:40] <elopio> shouldn't we allow apt-cache policy ?
[03:41] <elopio> how do I know the version of the snappy installed?
[03:42] <rsalveti> elopio: use /usr/bin/apt-cache
[03:43] <elopio> good trick. But it says: Installed: (none)
[03:43] <rsalveti> /usr/bin/apt-cache policy ubuntu-snappy
[03:43] <elopio> :D
[03:44] <elopio> that's right.
[03:45] <rsalveti> slangasek: how long does it usually take for something under /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/www/full to show up at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com ?
[03:47] <rsalveti> elopio: can you update https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/tutorials/using-snappy tomorrow with the proper output we get from image 3?
[03:47] <elopio> rsalveti: I can do it now.
[03:48] <rsalveti> elopio: great, thanks!
[03:48] <elopio> np
[03:51] <rsalveti> elopio: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-snappy/15.04/stable/20150609/
[03:52] <rsalveti> elopio: http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/ was also updated
[03:53] <elopio> yep. Downloading because my sdcard got busted.
[03:54] <elopio> I should start keeping all the images, instead of overwriting them.
[04:08] <rsalveti> elopio: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/snappy-devel/2015-June/000789.html
[04:08] <rsalveti> \o\ |o| /o/
[04:09] <elopio> rsalveti: nice job.
[04:09] <rsalveti> as usual it took way more work than expected :-)
[04:09] <rsalveti> guess we learned a lot as well
[04:09] <elopio> I'm sure I did.
[04:10] <rsalveti> yeah
[04:10] <elopio> I will send a testing report now.
[04:15] <rsalveti> great
[04:18] <rsalveti> utlemming: now just need your side to update the cloud images ^
[05:27] <pitti> ogra_: avahi> I roughly know what it is for and what it's supposed to do, yes :)
[05:42] <sarnold> what's the deal with the +generic and +bbb filenames here? http://releases.ubuntu.com/vivid/
[05:44] <sarnold> ahh just keep reading the list sars, just keep reading the list :)
[05:45] <miken> heh, I was about to point you to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/snappy-devel/2015-June/000787.html , but sounds like you found it :)
[05:50] <sarnold> indeed :) thanks
[07:05] <seb128> slangasek, "ubuntu-personal/rolling/edge" looks fine to me as well, but yeah willcooke should validate it I guess
[07:10] <slangasek> seb128: ok - can you check it with him today, perhaps? I'm heading off to bed now; but if we have the channel name I can set it up in the morning
[07:10] <seb128> slangasek, sure, waiting for him to get online
[07:10] <seb128> slangasek, have a good night!
[07:10] <slangasek> thanks, have a good day :)
[07:10] <seb128> slangasek, I guess I should wait on that rather than try to hack an image build locally ;-)
[07:10] <seb128> thanks
[07:11] <ogra_> pitti, so do you have any clue how a avahi reply could return a real external IP ?
ogra@anubis:~/datengrab/rpi$ ping webdm.local
PING webdm.local (254.193.204.33) 56(84) bytes of data.
[07:11] <ogra_> i thought that was impossible
[07:12] <pitti> ogra_: why? isn't that the point?
[07:12] <pitti> you have a machine --> over there which offers a service, like ssh, or cups or whatnot
[07:12] <ogra_> pitti, you mean returning internet IPs in a lan ?
[07:12] <pitti> or in this case, .local host names
[07:13] <pitti> isn't that a local LAN address?
[07:13] <ogra_> indeed not :)
[07:13] <ogra_> and at times i actually get 192.168.2.25 ... which is the right IP
[07:14] <pitti> 169.254.* would also be plausible (ipv4ll), but I suppose we don't use that
[07:14] <ogra_> right
[07:14] <ogra_> it should either return a non-routable local IP or something in the reserved 169.254 range
[07:15] <fgimenez> good morning
[07:15] <ogra_> s/non-routable/not externally routable/
[07:15] <ogra_> i'm very confused how it can return the above
[07:46] <seb128> hey willcooke
[07:46] <willcooke> hey seb128
[07:47] <seb128> willcooke, sergiusens proposed to use "ubuntu-personal/rolling/edge" as the channel name for the personal image, slangasek asked for somebody to "ack the name product-wise" before setting that up ... can you do that? (or suggest something better if you have some other idea about that)
[07:51] <willcooke> seb128, sergiusens - name sounds fine to me. I'll confirm with kgunn and report back asap
[07:52] <seb128> willcooke, thanks, slangasek went to bed and said he could set up the channel during his tomorrow, so I guess it let you the day to check with Kevin ;-)
[07:55] <willcooke> :)
[08:36] <ogra_> mvo, sergiusens http://paste.ubuntu.com/11694984/ i cant create images on trusty anymore with the recent u-d-f
[08:36] * ogra_ wanted to build a final image for the rpi from the stable channel
[08:39] <Chipaca> ogra_: how does it fail?
[08:39] <ogra_> see the paste :)
[08:39] <Chipaca> you know what
[08:39] <Chipaca> if i didn't see the url in your question
[08:39] <ogra_> it seems to try to mount an already mounted disk image
[08:39] <Chipaca> maybe i should finish my coffee first
[08:40] <ogra_> err ... or rather ... it tries to unmount one that is in use
[08:40] <Chipaca> ogra_: isn't that the partx race ?
[08:40] * ogra_ cant read today it seems
[08:40] <mvo> ogra_: for some people it seems to help to remove the sd card when creating the image
[08:40] <ogra_> is there a workaround ?
[08:40] <ogra_> mvo, which sd card ?
[08:41] <mvo> ogra_: oh, no sd card or anything else removable in your system :/ ?
[08:41] <ogra_> (my SD sits in the rpi ... i would only use it after i have an image :) )
[08:41] <mvo> ogra_: meh, sorry, thats the best I have, maybe reboot :(
[08:41] <ogra_> sigh ... thats my work desktop ... takes me 30min to start all work scripts after a reboot ...
[08:42] * ogra_ would prefer to not have to :P
[08:42] <ogra_> i guess i'll do my monthly dist upgrade then :P
[08:43] <ogra_> mvo, u-d-f worked fine until the upgrade fwiw
[08:43] <Chipaca> ogra_: silly quesiton
[08:43] <mvo> ogra_: meh, best to talk to sergiusens then
[08:43] <Chipaca> ogra_: does it happen every time?
[08:43] <ogra_> Chipaca, 3 out of three tries, yes
[08:43] <Chipaca> dang
[08:43] <ogra_> and there is no loopback device left once it stopped
[08:44] <ogra_> err
[08:44] <ogra_> no, i'm lying
[08:44] <ogra_> /dev/mapper/loop0p2 on /tmp/diskimage643565256/system type ext4 (rw)
[08:44] <ogra_> /dev/mapper/loop0p3 on /tmp/diskimage643565256/system-b type ext4 (rw)
[08:44] <ogra_> /dev/mapper/loop0p4 on /tmp/diskimage643565256/writable type ext4 (rw)
[08:45] <Chipaca> a lying liar of lies!
[08:47] <ogra_> ogra@anubis:~/datengrab/rpi$ mount|grep loop
[08:47] <ogra_> ogra@anubis:~/datengrab/rpi$ sudo losetup -a
[08:47] <ogra_> /dev/loop0: [0811]:66982244 (pi2.img)
[08:47] <ogra_> ogra@anubis:~/datengrab/rpi$ sudo losetup -d /dev/loop0
[08:47] <ogra_> ogra@anubis:~/datengrab/rpi$ sudo losetup -a
[08:47] <ogra_> /dev/loop0: [0811]:66982244 (pi2.img)
[08:47] <ogra_> hmm ...
[08:48] <Chipaca> mvo: i've got more weirdness for you
[08:48] <Chipaca> mvo: in case you're bored
[08:48] <Chipaca> mvo: ubuntu-core-launcher failing to run because it can't find librt.so.1 on image 69
[08:48] <Chipaca> no
[08:48] <Chipaca> i mean ubuntu-core 69
[08:49] <Chipaca> this is on my wily image, which is rolling edge
[08:50] <Chipaca> and it's because of an apparmor denied?
[08:51] <Chipaca> [Thu Jun 11 08:47:20 2015] audit: type=1400 audit(1434012441.158:15): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="/usr/bin/ubuntu-core-launcher" name="/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librt-2.21.so" pid=779 comm="ubuntu-core-lau" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=0 ouid=0
[08:53] <Chipaca> and indeed, that's not in the profile
[08:55] <Chipaca> ... and it isn't using librt when i build it locally
[08:55] <Chipaca> maybe this is wily -specific?
[08:59] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Ferris Bueller Day! 😃
[09:01] <ogra_> Bueller ... !!!!
[09:03] * ogra_ thinks he has 80s day today ... someone on G+ injected a huey lewis song in my brain that i cant get rid of and now *that* !
[09:04] <mvo> Chipaca: oh, interessting. let me try to reproduce
[09:04] <Chipaca> mvo: if you ldd /usr/bin/ubuntu-core-launcher on wily, it uses librt
[09:04] <Chipaca> mvo: but not on vivid
[09:05] <Chipaca> adding librt to the profile fixes it
[09:05] <Chipaca> but, i don't see why we now need librt
[09:18] <mvo> Chipaca: sounds a bit like a question for doko, but let me poke, I bet its gcc5
[09:19] <ogra_> so the reboot was useless
[09:19] <ogra_> same error after fresh boot and dist-upgrade
[09:22] * ogra_ sighs
[09:28] <mvo> Chipaca: ha! I blame libudev
[09:29] <mvo> Chipaca: if I update that I get the new librt dependency
[09:30] * ogra_ downgrades to u-d-f 0.23-0ubuntu1
[09:30] <ogra_> sigh ... same issue
[09:37] <Chipaca> mvo: needing a commit message on https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/snappy/snappy-remove-bin-path-compat/+merge/261596
[09:39] <mvo> Chipaca: thanks a bunch
[09:39] <mvo> Chipaca: I have some huge branches soon, but I think I get lunch first :)
[09:45] <Chipaca> sounds good
[09:45] <Chipaca> i'm figuring out what "other snappy" is running during boot, which is blocking regen from running
[09:46] * ogra_ looks at the u-d-f diff and finds ...
[09:46] <ogra_> // create /boot/uboot
[09:46] <ogra_> - if err := os.MkdirAll(filepath.Join(img.System(), "boot", "uboot"), 755); err != nil {
[09:46] <ogra_> + if err := os.MkdirAll(filepath.Join(img.System(), "boot", "uboot"), 0755); err != nil {
[09:46] <ogra_> that seems to be the only change in core_uboot.go
[09:48] * ogra_ would just patch it and try it out, but obviously i cant fulfill even the build-deps on trusty :(
[09:49] <Chipaca> well... 755 is obviously wrong, so
[09:50] <Chipaca> :)
[09:54] <conyoo> so guys, there is a noticeable lag 4-5s in webdm 0.9 (15.04 ubuntu core 3)
[09:55] <ogra_> conyoo, that is why the spinner was added to the page i guess
[09:57] <conyoo> :D
[10:02] <conyoo> rollback worked ubuntu-core 3 -> ubuntu-core 2 \o/
[10:03] <conyoo> now how do i get back to 3? snappy update?
[10:03] <ogra_> yes
[10:03] <conyoo> thanks ogra_ :D
[10:04] <Chipaca> grah, "booted" and "internal-run-hooks" run at the same time
[10:05] <zyga> hey
[10:05] <zyga> morning
[10:06] <zyga> I just updated bb to -3
[10:06] <zyga> and rebooted
[10:06] <zyga> and http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11695375/
[10:06] <zyga> (it doesn't boot, stops on nandboot not defined
[10:07] <Chipaca> pitti: can a service unit file have an ExecStartPre and no ExecStart?
[10:07] <pitti> Chipaca: I believe a Type=oneshot can; a Type={simple,forking,notify}, i. e. a real "service" needs to have an ExecStart
[10:08] <Chipaca> yeah, this is a oneshot
[10:08] <Chipaca> and i have other things depending on it
[10:08] <Chipaca> but they'll start before the oneshot is done
[10:08] <ogra_> zyga, hold the user button down, thats not a snappy boot at all, looks like the board boots from eMMC
[10:08] <pitti> Chipaca: yeah, then this only matters if you want to override parts of it with drop-ins
[10:08] <zyga> ogra_: oh
[10:08] <dpm> seb128, quick question: will the snappy personal image be writable?
[10:08] <zyga> ogra_: thanks, I'll wipe emmc
[10:08] <Chipaca> dpm: no
[10:09] <pitti> Chipaca: err, a Type=oneshot isn't "done" until after ExecStart* all have finished
[10:09] <ogra_> at least that kernel version doesnt look like any ubuntu kernel to me
[10:09] <Chipaca> pitti: well then something's awry
[10:09] <Chipaca> pitti: do you have five to look at it?
[10:09] <pitti> Chipaca: does that other unit have a proper After= (directly or indirectly) on the oneshot?
[10:10] <pitti> Chipaca: yes, sure
[10:10] * pitti just quickly finishes his open-iscsi fix
[10:10] <Chipaca> pitti: oh
[10:10] <Chipaca> pitti: it's got an After on the wrong one :)
[10:10] <pitti> Chipaca: that might be related :)
[10:10] <Chipaca> pitti: thanks :)
[10:11] <dpm> Chipaca, so it's going to be the same in terms of writability as the phone, then?
[10:11] <pitti> Chipaca: After=YKWIM.service !
[10:11] <pitti> JFDI=true
[10:11] <Chipaca> pitti: i prefer After=YFDWIM.already
[10:12] <pitti> Chipaca: computers are sooo picky
[10:12] <Chipaca> pitti: inorite
[10:12] <ogra_> WOW ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/11695398/
[10:12] <Chipaca> dpm: maybe. Do you consider the "writable" phone to be supported?
[10:12] <dpm> no
[10:12] <ogra_> since when does tar call mknod when extracting a tarball
[10:12] <Chipaca> dpm: then yes :)
[10:13] * ogra_ has never seen such an error
[10:13] <Chipaca> ogra_: whenever the tarball has special files in it?
[10:13] <ogra_> Chipaca, it doesnt just extract them ?
[10:14] <ogra_> i have never had something like this happen to me and i tend use chroot tarballs a lot ...
[10:14] <zyga> ogra_: filesystem mounted with nodev?
[10:14] <ogra_> zyga, not on purpose at least :)
[10:14] * ogra_ checks
[10:14] <ogra_> but still, why would tar call mkdnod instead of just blindly unpacking whats there
[10:15] <Chipaca> um
[10:15] <zyga> ogra_: and besides, mknod is priviledged, no?
[10:15] <zyga> ogra_: sudo
[10:15] <Chipaca> ogra_: how would it unpack a special file?
[10:15] <ogra_> zyga, i know how to work around it
[10:15] <ogra_> i want to know why it suddenly happens
[10:15] <Chipaca> ogra_: it creates files with open, directories with mkdir, ... etc
[10:15] <ogra_> Chipaca, and how did it do that before ?
[10:16] <Chipaca> ogra_: same way?
[10:16] <Chipaca> ogra_: i mean, there's no other way
[10:16] <ogra_> well, i usually only start using sudo when i enter my chroots
[10:16] <zyga> ogra_: maybe fakeroot wrapper made mknod a fake mknod
[10:16] <zyga> ogra_: and you just didn't notice (wild guess)
[10:16] <ogra_> hmm
[10:17] <ogra_> nops :P
[10:17] <ogra_> /dev/sdb1 on /home/ogra/datengrab type ext4 (rw,nodev,noatime,nodiratime,acl,user_xattr)
[10:17] <ogra_> WTF ...
[10:17] <zyga> ogra_: systemd? :)
[10:17] <ogra_> trusty
[10:17] <zyga> hmm!
[10:17] <zyga> indeed
[10:18] <ogra_> ogra@anubis:~/datengrab/rpi/udf/chroot$ grep /home/ogra/datengrab /etc/fstab
[10:18] <ogra_> UUID=a3818c99-93e5-4596-bc93-f058a2daa60d /home/ogra/datengrab ext4 user,acl,user_xattr,noatime,nodiratime,exec,suid 1 2
[10:18] <ogra_> and no "nodev" in fstab
[10:19] <Chipaca> ogra_: blame sergiusens
[10:20] <Chipaca> ogra_: works for me :-p
[10:20] <zyga> offtopic, I haven't tried yet so feel free to bash me, can I use docker to get a normal debian chroot with snappy
[10:21] <Chipaca> zyga: aiui, yes
[10:21] * zyga erased emmc, boot still tries to go from it
[10:21] <zyga> hmm
[10:22] <zyga> just boot from the sd card
[10:23] <zyga> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11695445/
[10:23] <zyga> hmm
[10:25] <ogra_> zyga, hmm, corrupt fat ?
[10:25] <Norbell> Hello. :) I like to configure Ubuntu Snappy as a Router with some docker features. But I can't find any information which is the best way to install something like ufw or firewalld on snappy?
[10:25] <zyga> but http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11695460/
[10:25] <zyga> ogra_: I'll check on my host, I just love sd cards
[10:34] <Chipaca> Norbell: i don't know of a snap that does that yet, but it's doable
[10:36] <Norbell> @Chipaca Okay, thanks. Do you think it's possible to use something like deb2snap to convert firewalld into a snappy app?
[10:36] <nothal> Norbell: No such command!
[10:38] * ogra_ sighs ... no lick for me today ...
[10:38] <ogra_> so running u-d-f in a wily chroot doesnt work either
[10:38] * ogra_ only wants this rpi image done ... dmaned
[10:38] <ogra_> *damned even
[10:39] <ogra_> s/lick/luck/
[10:39] <ogra_> what a wasted day :(
[10:39] <Chipaca> Norbell: I don't know, sorry
[10:40] * ogra_ decides to rather wait for sergiusens or rsalveti to make u-d-f work again
[10:48] <Norbell> Since a firewall is something you un only once on a linux installation. What is the appropriate snappy component for a firewall? There a frameworks and apps. But both app-types allow multiple instances of one app. In one news Canonical mentioned that some companies plan to install snappy on their routers.
[10:49] <Chipaca> Norbell: i'd expect it to be a regular snap
[10:50] <Chipaca> Norbell: ie an app, not a framework
[10:50] <Chipaca> Norbell: frameworks are for mediating access to hardware
[10:54] <Norbell> @Chipaca And what about applications that configure Wi-Fi?
[10:54] <nothal> Norbell: No such command!
[10:54] <Chipaca> Norbell: same
[10:56] <Norbell> Chipaca: thank you. Now I have at least an idea of what I have to do :)
[10:57] <ppisati> ogra_: is modprobe still available on the snappy image?
[10:58] <Chipaca> ppisati: yes
[10:58] <ogra_> GRRR !
[10:58] <ogra_> exactly the same issue on my vivid laptop
[10:58] <ogra_> so u-d-f is officially completely broken for me :(
[11:05] <Chipaca> ogra_: here, de-grrr with http://i.imgur.com/vXO0HyH.jpg
[11:06] <Chipaca> it's my background image today (by random rotation), and has been making me smile all morning
[11:06] <Chipaca> ogra_: that's “derelict at-at among the sierra nevada” by oliver wetter, fwiw
[11:11] <ogra_> lovely !
[11:15] <Chipaca> pitti: FYI, running systemctl start from within the exec of a (oneshot) service hangs
[11:16] <Chipaca> so i guess generators are the only way forward for this
[11:26] <rickspencer3> rsalveti, ridiculously smooth update on my Beagle Bone
[11:26] <rickspencer3> nice work everyone
[11:29] <zyga> ogra_: with some extra checks I'm sure the fat is working
[11:29] <zyga> ogra_: any advice on what I can use to debug why it doesn't boot after upgrade?
[11:43] <sergiusens> ogra_: yeah, that no change rebuild caused a bunch of issues I'm trying to track down since last night
[11:45] <seb128> dpm, hey, base OS is a readonly image, then apps are snaps, a bit similar to the phone yes, ro fs and clicks in their own space
[11:47] <dpm> thanks seb128, that's what I was after
[11:47] <seb128> dpm, yw!
[11:48] <dpm> seb128, another question: I've seen some talk on the channel about how the final image will be delivered, but I haven't followed it up. Have you guys figured it out?
[11:48] <dpm> as an ISO, or as an image channel...
[11:51] <seb128> dpm, as a snappy image
[11:52] <dpm> seb128, as an image I can e.g. dd into a USB stick, such as the ones for BBB and RPi2?
[11:53] <Chipaca> mvo: mostly +1 on https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/snappy/snappy-improved-developer-mode2/+merge/261692 ; just a stray comment to fix
[11:53] <Chipaca> mvo: a couple of non-blocking questions also :)
[11:53] <seb128> dpm, what's the difference?
[11:53] <seb128> dpm, the rpi can't be dd-ed?
[11:54] <seb128> oh, you meant those are dd-able
[11:54] <dpm> seb128, I'm not trying to point any differences, just trying to make sure I understand
[11:54] <seb128> dpm, not sure if there are several type of snappy images?
[11:54] <seb128> dpm, dunno, for me there was only one type of snappy images
[11:54] <seb128> and they can be dd-ed
[11:54] <seb128> but I didn't investigate much so maybe I'm wrong
[11:55] <seb128> others here can probably reply better to that
[11:55] <dpm> seb128, I'm not implying there are different types, I just wanted to figure out and understand how the initial installation would work
[11:56] <seb128> dpm, not figured yet
[11:56] <seb128> dpm, the snappy team has that in their backlog
[11:57] <dpm> ack
[11:57] <Chipaca> snappy images are divided in: (a) signed by canonical, (b) deprecated, (c) working, (d) for quadcopters, (e) firewalls, (f) fabulous, (g) odds and ends, (h) included in this classification, (i) that break all the time, (j) innumerable, (k) maintained by ogra_, (1) etcetera, (m) that break the hardware when booted, (n) that look ok when squinting.
[11:58] <sergiusens> sounds about right
[11:58] <sergiusens> images are like appliances
[11:58] <sergiusens> up to each product to define how to best install it
[11:58] <seb128> dpm, my understanding is that next steps for personnal are for willcooke to confirm the channel name
[11:59] <seb128> then sergiusens/slangasek to set up that image/channel
[11:59] <seb128> then we should be able to use u-d-f to build a personal image
[11:59] <sergiusens> seb128: the channel name I suggested is on par with 'core' and makes the transition to pure snaps easier
[12:00] <dpm> seb128, ok, I think that answers all of my questions, thanks
[12:01] <sergiusens> Chipaca: you really prefer syscall.Mount?
[12:01] <seb128> dpm, yw!
[12:01] <seb128> sergiusens, great, waiting on willcooke to confirm with kgunn that the name is ok I think
[12:01] <sergiusens> Chipaca: wasn't syscall in deprecation mode?
[12:02] <Chipaca> sergiusens: moved elsewhere, but not deprecated per se
[12:02] <Chipaca> sergiusens: I don't know if I prefer it or not. If it were C, would we still be exec'ing /bin/mount ?
[12:02] <Chipaca> sergiusens: I don't know :)
[12:03] <Chipaca> /bin/mount does a bunch of things around mount(2), which might make it worth just exec'ing
[12:05] <mvo> Chipaca: thanks a lot
[12:06] <sergiusens> Chipaca: there is no syscall.Umount or it's too early for me
[12:07] <Chipaca> sergiusens: https://golang.org/pkg/syscall/#Unmount
[12:07] <Chipaca> sergiusens: they added a random n in there
[12:07] <Chipaca> :-p
[12:12] <sergiusens> Chipaca: ah
[12:15] <ppisati> nice, the raspi2 modfies the dtb on the fly before passing it to the kernel to make the i2c devices visible
[12:15] <ppisati> very nice
[12:15] <ppisati> except that since we use uboot to boot the syste,
[12:15] <ppisati> and thus we pass the dtb file from the filesystem
[12:16] <ppisati> we don't give a sh*t about the modified dtb that start.elf is prepping for us
[12:16] <ppisati> becuause uboot != kernel
[12:20] * Chipaca ~> lunch
[12:23] <pitti> Chipaca: yes, never use systemctl start without --no-block in a systemd unit
[12:24] <pitti> Chipaca: it's best to avoid calling systemctl altogether, it's usually a hack (you rather shold use Wants=, Requires=, etc.)
[12:24] <pitti> Chipaca: calling systemctl start in an unit causes a deadlock
[12:30] <ogra_> sergiusens, let me know once you have something to test, i really want to get that final rpi2 imae out
[12:30] <ogra_> *imae
[12:30] <ogra_> bah
[12:30] * ogra_ needs new kbd
[12:30] <rsalveti> morning folks
[12:30] <rsalveti> how are we doing? did something explode because of the update? :-)
[12:30] <sergiusens> ogra_: you can try the branch I told rsalveti to try
[12:30] <sergiusens> rsalveti: no, just the u-d-f rebuild
[12:30] <sergiusens> :-/
[12:31] <ogra_> sergiusens, how do i build it ? i cant even get the build-deps installed here
[12:31] <sergiusens> ogra_: bzr bd --builder='sbuild -c wily ...'
[12:32] <ogra_> without deps ?
[12:32] <sergiusens> sbuild or pbuilder or what suits you
[12:32] <ogra_> a plain chroot ... or even better just my main system :)
[12:32] <sergiusens> ogra_: on wily, mk-builddeps -i
[12:33] <ogra_> i dont run wily on any of my prod machines
[12:33] <ogra_> trusty and vivid are what i can offer
[12:33] <rsalveti> sergiusens: hm, that I tried but didn't help me at least
[12:34] <rsalveti> unless you updated it again, let me check
[12:34] <rsalveti> sergiusens: will try it again in a few minutes
[12:36] <sergiusens> rsalveti: you got a different error due to something else
[12:37] <rsalveti> sergiusens: yup, still mount related, but will give it another shot soon
[12:47] <zyga> ogra_: I frlashed the image from instructions on the website just now, clean card, clean emmc, it doesn't boot
[12:48] <zyga> ogra_: something is wrong there
[12:48] <ogra_> zyga, well, QA tested it ...
[12:48] <zyga> ogra_: well, is the thing they tested uploaded?
[12:48] * ogra_ hasnt tried the BBB, i'm focused on the rpi
[12:48] <zyga> ogra_: I can sha the image (uncompressed) that I have
[12:49] <ogra_> well, compare the MD5 with the one on the server then
[12:54] <ogra_> uh, weird
[12:54] <ogra_> rsalveti, that cdimage fs structure is super confusing ... (for the actual img's)
[12:55] <ogra_> why is 15.04 snappy under preview and not under releases ...
[12:55] <ogra_> and there is also an ancient "alpha 3" in the scratch dir
[12:56] <zyga> ogra_: is there anything on emmc that can influence the boot if I hold the user key?
[12:56] <ogra_> not if you hold the key, no
[12:56] <ogra_> then it should always boot from SD
[12:56] <zyga> ogra_: I'm re-downloading from this URL http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/ubuntu-15.04-snappy-armhf-bbb.img.xz
[12:56] <zyga> ogra_: what I see now is:
[12:57] <zyga> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11696123/
[12:57] <zyga> shouldnt it try mmc1?
[12:57] <zyga> mmc1 is sd, mmc0 is emmc
[12:57] <zyga> right?
[12:58] <ogra_> no idea
[12:58] * zyga wonders if qa images worked just because someone had good bits of bootloader on their board
[12:58] <zyga> and actual images don't work
[12:58] <zyga> ogra_: I have a second bone with normal ubuntu and that's how it works there
[12:58] <zyga> sd is on mmc1
[12:58] <ogra_> well, then the above is right
[12:59] <ogra_> wait for elopio, he can surely tell you how he tested
[12:59] <zyga> thanks
[12:59] * ogra_ grins about the latest mail to ubuntu-phone
[13:02] <zyga> ogra_: from Linn Error? ;-)
[13:02] <ogra_> yeah :)
[13:07] <ogra_> \o/
[13:07] <ogra_> sergiusens, thanks so much, the MP helped
[13:07] <sergiusens> ogra_: great
[13:08] <sergiusens> ogra_: I don't like the MP though :-P
[13:08] <ogra_> yeah, its just hiding the prob
[13:08] * jdstrand didn't get to respond to Norbell on how he is going to have trouble with a firewall snap since the security policy doesn't allow it and the kernel isn't autoloading iptable_filter and ip6table_filter and probably other things
[13:09] <jdstrand> I'm trying to get ufw going in my spare time and collecting data that I will present to the architects group. I sorta think we need something like hw-assign but for net-admin
[13:09] <sergiusens> ogra_: what I think is happening is that snappy.Install is returning but some thread is still running and so when I try to unmount I get a device under use unmount error and boom
[13:09] <jdstrand> but we'll see
[13:09] <ogra_> sergiusens, well, then a sleep would do the same
[13:09] <sergiusens> I had some test code with fuser and the only process using the mount was u-d-f
[13:09] <ogra_> but with clean unmount
[13:10] <sergiusens> ogra_: both ugly, but I can do some sort of sync and wait
[13:10] <ogra_> sergiusens, both ugly, but the sleep would prove that whatever holds the lock actually returns after a while
[13:10] <ogra_> the lazy unmount wont
[13:11] <sergiusens> ogra_: yeah, will give it a go in a bit
[13:12] <rsalveti> ogra_: which path is the one containing alpha 3 and so on?
[13:12] <rsalveti> but yeah, there is some duplication in there
[13:12] <ogra_> rsalveti, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/scratch/
[13:12] <rsalveti> too a while to find out the right place to dump new images
[13:12] <ogra_> and there is http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/preview/
[13:13] <rsalveti> ogra_: right, but we're using http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-snappy/
[13:13] <rsalveti> :-)
[13:13] <rsalveti> just to help causing more confusion
[13:13] <ogra_> lol
[13:13] <sergiusens> rsalveti: we should just upload to launchpad ;-)
[13:13] <rsalveti> sergiusens: yeah
[13:13] <ogra_> well, we should wipe the ubuntu-cpre ones
[13:13] <ogra_> old and useless anyway
[13:13] <sergiusens> rsalveti: zx'ing gives a 156MB image
[13:14] <ogra_> [ 0.001750] Calibrating delay loop (skipped), value calculated using timer frequency.. 38.40 BogoMIPS (lpj=192000)
[13:14] <ogra_> heh
[13:15] <ogra_> i never noticed rpi had such a low BogoMIPS value
[13:15] <rsalveti> maybe early boot only?
[13:15] <ogra_> yeah
[13:15] <ogra_> it surely doesnt act like 38.40 :)
[13:15] <ogra_> hmm
[13:16] <ogra_> even though ... cpuinfo has the same
[13:16] <ogra_> funny
[13:17] <ogra_> great, image seems to work
[13:17] * ogra_ installs a few snaps
[13:17] <zyga> ogra_: tried again, yep, it's broken
[13:18] <zyga> ogra_: md5sums match
[13:18] <zyga> ogra_: user key pressed
[13:18] <rsalveti> ogra_: my problem with udf is only when using it with --install
[13:18] <zyga> ogra_: shall I file a bug on lp:snappy?
[13:18] <ogra_> rsalveti, your prob with udf is with using grub ;)
[13:18] <ogra_> for me it fell over when enabling developer mode
[13:18] <rsalveti> weird
[13:19] <ogra_> the MP from sergiusens fixes that bit here
[13:19] <rsalveti> ogra_: did you try sergiusens's mr?
[13:19] <ogra_> yes
[13:19] <ogra_> just commented on it
[13:19] <ogra_> this was my error this morning http://paste.ubuntu.com/11694984/
[13:20] <ogra_> k, now the ultimate test ...
[13:20] * ogra_ installs docker and owncloud ... (via webdm this time :) )
[13:21] <ogra_> once that passes i'll push the stable RPi image up
[13:22] <zyga> elopio: ping
[13:23] <ogra_> sergiusens, bladernr_, do we have any plans to refresh the store page when the user installed a framework package ?
[13:23] <sergiusens> ogra_: installing docker fails for me
[13:23] <sergiusens> just fyi
[13:23] <ogra_> sergiusens, works fine here
[13:23] <sergiusens> ogra_: :(
[13:24] <ogra_> i'm just installing owncloud now
[13:24] <sergiusens> ogra_: oh, on a prebuilt I mean
[13:24] <ogra_> well, at least webdm didnt spill any error
[13:24] <ogra_> oh, you mean via --install ... got it
[13:25] <sergiusens> ogra_: yup
[13:25] <sergiusens> Chipaca: fyi docker failed to install: unable to create /var/lib/snappy/apparmor/policygroups/docker_client: open /var/lib/snappy/apparmor/policygroups/docker_client: file exists
[13:25] <sergiusens> Chipaca: that's the exit 1 we used to see ;-)
[13:26] <zyga> ogra_, sergiusens: are you mostly working on hardware or qemu?
[13:26] <sergiusens> zyga: both
[13:26] <mvo> Chipaca: thanks a lot for your review marathon! if you have further suggestion for improvements, I'm all ears, I will probably continue tomorrow or so, I'm a bit tired now :)
[13:27] <ogra_> zyga, only HW currently
[13:27] <ogra_> (myself that is)
[13:27] * zyga goes to try qemu image
[13:27] <mvo> pitti: is it intentional that libudev now requires librt.so? just curious
[13:27] <Chipaca> sergiusens: do you have the whole error output?
[13:27] <mvo> Chipaca: I will add a apparmor ok rule for ubuntu-core-launcher if you don't have that already
[13:28] <sergiusens> Chipaca: it's just that, it's the err returned from snappy.Install
[13:28] <Chipaca> mvo: i don't
[13:28] <Chipaca> sergiusens: lies! you've got a line number somewhere, surely?
[13:28] <Chipaca> sergiusens: in syslog?
[13:28] <rsalveti> sergiusens: do we actually want webdm to be a framework?
[13:30] <pitti> mvo: kind of -- new libudev is now internally using the sd-device library, and some bits in the internal systemd libs use mq_getattr and friends
[13:31] <mvo> ok
[13:32] <mvo> sergiusens: sorry for nagging, you mentioned you already did a static grub.cfg (similar to uboot) is that available somewhere? I would love to look at it at some point
[13:33] <rsalveti> mvo: Chipaca: is there any major issue to be fixed still for wily?
[13:33] * rsalveti is checking the create wily/rolling images
[13:34] <Chipaca> rsalveti: well, ubuntu-core-launcher doesn't
[13:34] <Chipaca> rsalveti: so that's fairly major :)
[13:34] <mvo> https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/ubuntu-core-launcher/apparmor-plus-librt/+merge/261726
[13:34] <mvo> rsalveti: -^
[13:34] <rsalveti> :D
[13:34] <mvo> maybe more, this blocks the testing right now, I need to check if the apparmor fix is in wily already
[13:34] <rsalveti> right, awesome
[13:34] <mvo> the proper one from john
[13:35] <rsalveti> mvo: one of the pending questions we have is how we're going to maintain the ubuntu-snappy package
[13:35] <jdstrand> mvo: I just now approved it
[13:35] <rsalveti> mvo: since we now have the desktop guys also creating the ubuntu-personal images
[13:35] <mvo> jdstrand: \o/ should I cherry pick it into our ppa or will there be a upload soon(ish)?
[13:35] <rsalveti> so in general I believe it would be good to land everything in the archive and avoid using the ppa
[13:35] <mvo> rsalveti: meh, I really really the auto-build of that package :/
[13:36] <rsalveti> but since we can't auto land in there, maybe we can do a weekly release in the archive or such
[13:36] <jdstrand> mvo: I wasn't planning on fixing it, but I can if you want. I was just rying to expedite the proces for you :)
[13:36] <rsalveti> mvo: yeah
[13:36] <jdstrand> ie, just gave my blessing to upload
[13:36] <mvo> jdstrand: its fine, I can do it, I just did not want to duplicate work
[13:36] <rsalveti> mvo: maybe syncing once a week is fine, what do you think?
[13:36] <rsalveti> sync ppa -> archive
[13:36] * jdstrand nods
[13:37] <mvo> rsalveti: yeah, I guess. Iwould love to automate this as much as possible (which is tricky, I understand that)
[13:38] <mvo> rsalveti: I mean, if we have super strong auto-testing (and we are on a good way) I don't see why releasing would be manual, if all tests are good it should go in automatically
[13:38] <mvo> jdstrand: where is that branch you just approved :) ?
[13:38] <jdstrand> https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/ubuntu-core-launcher/apparmor-plus-librt/+merge/261726
[13:38] <mvo> jdstrand: aha, thanks
[13:39] <rsalveti> mvo: yeah, the only tricky thing is uploading to the archive
[13:39] <mvo> jdstrand: hm, maybe there is a misunderstanding, I was wondering if there was a plan for a new apparmor release with the fixes from john for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor/+bug/1460152
[13:40] <mvo> rsalveti: indeed
[13:40] <rsalveti> mvo: maybe we can convince the personal guys to also use our ppa?
[13:40] <rsalveti> until we find a better way
[13:40] <jdstrand> mvo: oh that was a misunderstanding
[13:40] <mvo> jdstrand: don't get me wrong, I don't want to give you work, just double check that I don't do stuff that is already in progress
[13:41] <jdstrand> mvo: let me check
[13:41] <mvo> happy to cherry pick it myself and push to the PPA for now
[13:41] <jdstrand> mvo: what is that bug number?
[13:41] <mvo> rsalveti: +1 from me and we put it on the list of things to do
[13:41] <mvo> jdstrand: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor/+bug/1460152
[13:41] <mvo> (this one?)
[13:41] <jdstrand> mvo: is the workaround in wily already?
[13:41] <rsalveti> mvo: sure
[13:42] <mvo> jdstrand: I don't think so, iirc I did not upload it because I hoped for a better fix (and I was lucky :)
[13:42] <mvo> did not upload it to wily
[13:42] <jdstrand> mvo: ok, so, we are planning a new apparmor upstream release and a corresponding apparmor upload to wily. that won't happen for 2-3 weeks. do you need it in wily before then?
[13:43] <mvo> jdstrand: so I could apply the two patches from john against the wily apparmor and upload to the PPA and your team can upload the real wily at your convinience?
[13:43] <mvo> sounds ok?
[13:43] <rsalveti> seb128: hey, regarding personal images, we're currently auto deploying ubuntu-snappy in our ppa and using that when creating the core images since we can't easily automate the upload to the archive
[13:44] <jdstrand> mvo: that does sound ok. it would also be ok for vivid. that said, before you upload can you double check with jjohansen that this is the final patch?
[13:44] <mvo> seb128: and our auto-deploy is awesome :P
[13:44] <rsalveti> seb128: so there could be an out-of-sync issue with the version you guys end up using if you're also not using our ppa
[13:44] <seb128> rsalveti, hey, unsure how to parse that bit of info
[13:44] <seb128> ah ok
[13:44] <jdstrand> mvo: and if you do vivid, you would remove the workaround systemd unit?
[13:44] <rsalveti> seb128: would you mind also adding our ppa to your builds at least for now?
[13:44] <mvo> jdstrand: sure, will do. vivid is not super critical right now I'm ok with the worakaround there for now. but yeah, if vivid then the workaround will go
[13:44] <rsalveti> until we find a better way to automate the publishing in the archive
[13:45] <seb128> rsalveti, mvo: I'm unsure to understand why you can't regularly land updates to wily?
[13:45] <rsalveti> seb128: we can, but we're landing stuff more than daily in our ppa
[13:45] <jdstrand> ok. I'm not super excited about the workaround (you may have gathered that from the bug comment), but so long as it gets there eventually, that's ok
[13:45] <mvo> jjohansen: hi, jdstrand suggested to double check with you that the two patches for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor/+bug/1460152 are the final ones or if there is more in your git repo that I should cherry pick?
[13:45] <rsalveti> and we want to automate that to be something for every commit
[13:45] <seb128> rsalveti, you could land more than daily in the archive
[13:45] <jdstrand> mvo: thanks!
[13:45] <rsalveti> we want to always release our trunk
[13:45] <mvo> seb128: because its a manual bzr-buildpackage; dput that a bzr build recipe can also do
[13:46] <ogra_> seb128, not during freezes
[13:46] <seb128> ogra_, why not?
[13:46] <rsalveti> yeah, but requires a manual step, and also not during freezes
[13:46] <rsalveti> yeah
[13:46] <seb128> I though we didn't freeze proposed
[13:46] <mvo> if I can have my way each commit to trunk will be a upload :P automatically
[13:46] <seb128> even if we freezed migrations
[13:46] <rsalveti> but we don't build from proposed
[13:46] <ogra_> seb128, we dont build images from proposed
[13:46] <seb128> do you need to use packages?
[13:46] <seb128> can't you just lp:ubuntu-snappy then?
[13:47] <rsalveti> atm, yes
[13:47] <ogra_> live-build uses packages
[13:47] <ogra_> (and we need binaries indeed)
[13:47] <seb128> ogra_, you could make it branch & bzr bd & dpkg
[13:48] <ogra_> seb128, yeah, or just use a PPA :)
[13:48] <rsalveti> SUBPROJECT=system-image EXTRA_PPAS=snappy-dev/image for-project ubuntu-core cron.daily-preinstalled --live
[13:48] <rsalveti> how we're building our images
[13:48] <ogra_> right
[13:48] <rsalveti> so I'd suggest you guys to use the same ppa for now when building the snappy personal one
[13:48] <ogra_> just needs the "EXTRA_PPAS" var set
[13:48] <rsalveti> until we find a better way
[13:49] <rsalveti> we're working on it
[13:49] <seb128> I'm sure Laney isn't going to like that :p
[13:49] <seb128> divergence...
[13:49] <seb128> we should converge, not diverge
[13:49] <ogra_> nah, convergence
[13:49] <seb128> by not using our standard archive & infra
[13:49] <ogra_> you move closer to snappy :)
[13:49] <seb128> lol
[13:50] <seb128> I think that if nobody push back to reduce the divergence it never happens
[13:50] <seb128> let's keep personnal off that, it's going to create the motivation to resolve the issue
[13:50] <rsalveti> the problem is the archive and having uploads for every commit
[13:50] <rsalveti> if the solution is moving away from the archive
[13:50] <rsalveti> then we're not going to converge *in* the archive
[13:50] <seb128> that's not a solution
[13:50] <seb128> our archive/infra should be fit for our needs
[13:50] <seb128> if it's not we need to fix/change it
[13:50] <rsalveti> well, following your suggestion to build the package in livebuild
[13:51] <seb128> yeah, that was a stupid workaround suggestion
[13:51] <ogra_> sergiusens, mvo, is the content in http://people.canonical.com/~platform/snappy/ used by anything or could i wipe it and create a RPi2 subdir
[13:51] <rsalveti> sure, we need to fix it, all I'm saying is that while it's not fixed, it's better to just using the ppa
[13:52] <seb128> what sort of issues do we have using the archive versions?
[13:52] <seb128> those should be usable now?
[13:52] <jdstrand> mvo: re Chipaca's comment on the apparmor rule. try: /lib/@{multiarch}/librt{,-[0-9]*}.so* mr,
[13:52] <seb128> even if they lag a bit behind
[13:52] <ogra_> you are behind on fixes
[13:52] <rsalveti> seb128: it's usable, just lagging behind
[13:52] <seb128> that's fine
[13:52] <ogra_> it can be really bad
[13:52] <seb128> at least we experience what our users experience
[13:52] <rsalveti> if that's fine, then fine :-)
[13:52] <ogra_> (see the recent u-d-f issues)
[13:52] <mvo> jdstrand: ok, do you prefer that over librt-*.so* (same as libc?)
[13:52] <seb128> well, if the archive version is that bad, let's not have that package in the archive
[13:52] <seb128> so nobody uses it
[13:52] <seb128> let's keep it in a ppa where it's rolling
[13:52] <rsalveti> the udf issue is a different one
[13:53] <rsalveti> we don't expect the archive one to be broken
[13:53] <rsalveti> since we don't even want our package in the ppa to be broken
[13:53] <ogra_> sure, i'm just trying to point out that there can indeed be fatal bugs
[13:53] <seb128> in the ppa as well
[13:53] <rsalveti> sure, but that can happen for any package that gets uploaded
[13:53] <ogra_> right
[13:54] <seb128> you would expect a every commit snapshot to have more issues than one that is manually tested and uploaded to the archive
[13:54] <ogra_> but due to the extra iteration throuh the PPA it will take longer til it reaches the archive
[13:54] <ogra_> thats what i meant
[13:54] <rsalveti> right
[13:54] <rsalveti> it's fine, we're going to improve our automated testing to verify it better as we go
[13:54] <rsalveti> the only issue is that you guys might end up using an older version
[13:55] <mvo> in my ideal world there is no need for manual testing everything that would be done manual is run automatic
[13:55] <jdstrand> mvo: either is ok. I see I did use -* before. if I were to do it again, I would use what I suggested for all
[13:55] <rsalveti> yeah, the only missing piece in that ideal world is having a permission to upload to the archive
[13:55] <seb128> rsalveti, thanks for the heads up
[13:55] <seb128> we need to discuss it
[13:55] <rsalveti> but, we're still uploading packages in a ftp server
[13:55] <rsalveti> in 2015
[13:55] <mvo> jdstrand: ok, so I will uses the suggestion from john and update libc too for consitency(?)
[13:55] <seb128> but I would prefer to keep personnal on the archive
[13:56] <rsalveti> seb128: sure
[13:56] <seb128> would it only because it helps to keep the motivation to fix our infra for our need
[13:56] <seb128> rather that paperover in a specific way
[13:57] <jdstrand> mvo: I don't understand that statement. I mean, I do, but I'm confused by it. if you are choosing to update all of them, please do:
[13:57] <jdstrand> /lib/@{multiarch}/librt{,-[0-9]*}.so* mr,
[13:57] <jdstrand> /lib/@{multiarch}/libc{,-[0-9]*}.so* mr,
[13:57] <jdstrand> /lib/@{multiarch}/libpthread{,-[0-9]*}.so* mr,
[13:57] <jdstrand> that is more precise while still allowing for good maintenance
[13:59] <elopio> hola
[14:00] <zyga> elopio: hey
[14:00] <zyga> elopio: so you've tested the last beagle image?
[14:00] <zyga> elopio: I tried to install it today, it doesn't boot for me
[14:00] <elopio> zyga: hello. stable #3, yes.
[14:00] <zyga> elopio: maybe I did something terribly wrong
[14:00] <elopio> zyga: maybe. Can you connect to the serial console and see what it says?
[14:00] <zyga> elopio: do you think you can tell me what I might have done wrong
[14:00] <zyga> elopio: I did that
[14:00] <zyga> elopio: its says...
[14:00] <zyga> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11696123/
[14:03] <mvo> jdstrand: yeah, sorry, I'm not expressing myself well today. branch updated
[14:03] <zyga> elopio: it also failed on upgrade
[14:03] <zyga> elopio: I was running previous version
[14:03] <jdstrand> mvo: hehe, np. I probably made this harder than required
[14:03] <zyga> elopio: up until this morning when I updated
[14:03] <mvo> jdstrand: :) all good
[14:03] <zyga> elopio: then tried a clean flash from ...
[14:03] <jdstrand> but it's all good now :)
[14:03] <jdstrand> hehe
[14:03] <zyga> elopio: stuff listed here http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/start/
[14:03] <zyga> elopio: (md5sums match what I've downloaded)
[14:03] <zyga> elopio: one question, when you test a new image
[14:03] <zyga> elopio: do you have anything on emmc?
[14:05] <elopio> zyga: I'm about to start a meeting.
[14:05] <elopio> on the emmc I have debian.
[14:06] <zyga> elopio: is there any chance that is helping you to boot
[14:06] <zyga> elopio: otherwise, I'm not sure what happens to me
[14:06] <zyga> elopio: my emmc is wiped clean
[14:06] <elopio> zyga: I doubt it. But maybe...
[14:06] <sabdfl> hiya
[14:06] <sabdfl> hangout?
[14:06] <zyga> elopio: by default the boot order is nand > sd
[14:06] <sabdfl> ah, ww
[14:06] <zyga> elopio: so perhaps that would explain why it works for you
[14:06] <ogra_> sabdfl, wrong channel ?
[14:06] <sabdfl> indeed :)
[14:07] <zyga> :-D
[14:07] <elopio> zyga: how did you wiped the emmc?
[14:07] <zyga> elopio: from uboot
[14:07] <sabdfl> ironically, an invitation to talk snappy though!
[14:07] <zyga> elopio: mmc erase ...
[14:07] <ogra_> haha
[14:08] <zyga> elopio: mmc dev 0 # or something like that to pick the right mmc
[14:08] <zyga> elopio: mmc erase something something # 0 size or the reverse,
[14:08] <zyga> elopio: without the sd card with the image (that fails to boot into the kernel) I just see 'C' on the serial line
[14:09] <sergiusens> mvo: the grub.cfg I use is just from the image, using a u-d-f branch I have with some modifications, I'll get it up as soon as all these criticals go away
[14:11] <sergiusens> Chipaca: feel free to try yourself ;-)
[14:11] <sergiusens> rsalveti: webdm a framework was a requirement not imposed by me
[14:12] <mvo> sergiusens: push now, or I will die from curiosity ;)
[14:12] <zyga> elopio: ao anyway, any help is appreciated
[14:16] <zyga> elopio, ogra_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/1464275 FYI
[14:17] <sergiusens> mvo: okie dokie
[14:17] <mvo> sergiusens: lets talk after the meeting if you have a minute
[14:17] <sergiusens> sure
[14:24] <ogra_> sergiusens, mvo, is the content in http://people.canonical.com/~platform/snappy/ used by anything or could i wipe it and create a RPi2 subdir
[14:24] * ogra_ just re-cycles the last question :)
[14:25] <mvo> ogra_: I have no idea
[14:25] <ogra_> sergiusens, ? ^^^
[14:26] <willcooke> sergiusens, seb128 - kgunn is +1 on the name - let's roll!
[14:26] <seb128> willcooke, thanks
[14:26] <seb128> slangasek, ^
[14:28] <slangasek> seb128, willcooke: nice, thanks
[14:30] <sergiusens> ogra_: mvo that's dead
[14:30] <kgunn> seb128: i tried to read thru scrollback, is the summary, we need to use core ppa to build on ? not archive, in order to stay in sync with core guys?
[14:30] <ogra_> sergiusens, awesome, deleting ... there are other snappy dirs that look dead as well one levelk up
[14:30] <davmor2> willcooke: WOT you got away with sheworeanitsybitsyteenyweenyyellowpokerdotbikini?
[14:31] <sergiusens> ogra_: .NEW and .ORIG, yeah good to go as well
[14:31] <ogra_> sergiusens, http://people.canonical.com/~platform/snappy.NEW/ and http://people.canonical.com/~platform/snappy.ORIG/
[14:31] <ogra_> cool
[14:31] <ogra_> ogra@anubis:~/datengrab/rpi$ ssh people.canonical.com
[14:31] <ogra_> Agent admitted failure to sign using the key.
[14:31] <ogra_> Permission denied (publickey).
[14:31] <ogra_> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[14:31] <ogra_> oh come on !
[14:32] <ogra_> so mv'ing my ~/.ssh dir away and back in place gets me this ? ...
[14:32] <ogra_> funnily i can ssh localhos and then it works
[14:33] <seb128> kgunn, define "stay in sync", things keep changing, so depending on where you start your build and how often you build things are going to be slightly "out of sync" anyway
[14:34] <seb128> kgunn, if wily is *that outdated* then we have an issue
[14:34] * ogra_ wonders what caches the ssh key ... i cant find any process with ssh or agent in the name :/
[14:37] <seb128> ogra_, on what system?
[14:37] <kgunn> seb128: thanks...so the "how out of date is wily" is still an unknown
[14:37] <kgunn> ?
[14:38] <seb128> kgunn, well, I don't know about that, rsalveti & mvo claim we should use ppa because wily is outdated
[14:38] <slangasek> seb128, sergiusens: what are the device types that we expect on personal? generic_$arch ?
[14:38] <ogra_> seb128, on my trusty desktop ... to create the rpi image i needs to create a fake ssh key ... for which is moved my .ssh dir out of the way ... moving it back gets me key errors (it works after i ssh localhost so i guess something in the UI session cached the wrong key somehow)
[14:38] <seb128> kgunn, but it wily is outdated/has versions our users should not use I say we have an issue, because our users are on wily and are going to get things from there
[14:38] <kgunn> slangasek: the intent is any/all devices that use the full shell
[14:38] <seb128> ogra_, likely gnome-keyring-agent
[14:39] <ogra_> -deamon ... but yeah
[14:39] <seb128> right, sorry
[14:39] * ogra_ hugs seb128
[14:39] * seb128 hugs ogra_ back
[14:39] <ogra_> works, thanks :)
[14:39] <slangasek> kgunn: right, this is more a technical question of how the devices are named so that they can be consumed properly by whatever's being done on the udf side
[14:40] <seb128> slangasek, define "device types"? any i386/amd64/armhf config we can boot on?
[14:40] <slangasek> I would /assume/ that 'generic_armhf', 'generic_i386', [...] gives the right result, but I'd rather have it confirmed
[14:42] <slangasek> seb128: system-image has a channel, and within the channel are devices, and each device has a set of tarballs to deliver (rootfs, tarball, etc). u-d-f does some wrapping of this to map it into the snappy design, I want to make sure the device names I work are going to be compatible with whatever udf and/or your gadget snap expect
[14:42] <slangasek> I work? I use
[14:42] <slangasek> seb128: btw I see that only armhf and i386 are built so far, is amd64 ftbfs or not yet added?
[14:42] <seb128> slangasek, ftbfs, a do armhf
[14:43] <seb128> or, armhf built today
[14:43] <seb128> slangasek, amd64 fails with
[14:43] <seb128> "+ cp -ar boot/vmlinuz-3.19.0-20-generic boot/vmlinuz-3.19.0-20-generic.efi.signed /tmp/tmp.zew1ZPxIai/assets/vmlinuz
[14:43] <seb128> cp: target '/tmp/tmp.zew1ZPxIai/assets/vmlinuz' is not a directory
[14:43] <seb128> E: config/hooks/500-move-kernel-to-device-tar.binary failed (exit non-zero). You should check for errors."
[14:43] <slangasek> fun fun
[14:43] <slangasek> ok
[14:44] <ogra_> rsalveti, so i moved the stable Pi image to http://people.canonical.com/~platform/snappy/raspberrypi2/ ... will announce it and update developer.ubuntu.com docs to point to that
[14:44] <seb128> slangasek, the code does " cp -ar boot/vmlinu?-* $TMPDIR/assets/vmlinuz"
[14:44] <seb128> slangasek, that regexp doesn't play nicely with the .signed
[14:44] <slangasek> yep
[14:45] <seb128> unsure how to change that though
[14:45] <seb128> do you have any suggestion? ;-)
[14:45] <slangasek> check for the presence of a .efi.signed first, if presence, use it; otherwise fall back to the current command
[14:45] <slangasek> present
[14:45] <slangasek> words, today
[14:45] <seb128> I'm even unsure why we have a .signed here and why ubuntu-core doesn't
[14:45] <sergiusens> slangasek: I need to create the personal subcommand, but in the meantime using a full channel path with 'core' should work
[14:46] <ogra_> asac, just confirming twice before i write an announcement, http://people.canonical.com/~platform/snappy/raspberrypi2/ is ok as url for the Pi image ?
[14:46] <slangasek> seb128: I don't know why ubuntu-core doesn't currently have the .signed; but it should, so that's a separate bug
[14:46] <slangasek> sergiusens: ok, that doesn't tell me what device names I should use though
[14:48] <kyrofa> Chipaca, ping
[14:49] <sergiusens> slangasek: generic_amd64 and so on or are we thinking phone targets here too?
[14:49] <sergiusens> I guess you are not the target for that question
[14:49] <sergiusens> and I can't decide on that either, what are the requirements? :-)
[14:50] <slangasek> sergiusens: just the generics for now
[14:51] <kgunn> slangasek: i see what you mean, and yeah, generics i think makes sense atm
[14:57] <Chipaca> kyrofa: pong
[14:59] <kyrofa> Chipaca, so I've been trying to use go-dbus, and I ran into a problem with it: anything dealing with messages is impossible to test because the serial numbers aren't exported
[14:59] <Chipaca> kyrofa: yes, go-dbus sucks at testability
[15:00] <elopio> fgimenez: I didn't touch your branch yesterday, I'm sorry. That's the only thing I will do today.
[15:00] <kyrofa> Chipaca, so I found github.com/godbus/dbus which is a lot more testable, but before I jumped to it I wanted to make sure I learned any lessons you learned-- is there a reason you didn't use that one?
[15:00] <elopio> fgimenez: can you please make the merge proposal, with status in progress, to nicely see the changes?
[15:00] <elopio> zyga: sorry, one more meeting. Thanks for reporting the bug.
[15:01] <fgimenez> elopio, np, it's already working now, ok i'll make the mp
[15:01] <elopio> zyga: I'm now afraid to reproduce it and break my beagle. But I guess I can always reflash debian in there.
[15:01] <zyga> elopio: :D
[15:02] <zyga> elopio: yeah
[15:02] <zyga> elopio: I have two
[15:02] <zyga> elopio: one runs ubuntu, the other snappy ubuntu core
[15:02] <zyga> elopio: it's a very useful arrangement
[15:02] <zyga> elopio: btw, when you do testing, do you boot with the user key pressed?
[15:02] <zyga> oh, and btw, elopio, we need to talk :D
[15:02] <zyga> (I didn't realize it was you)
[15:03] <zyga> elopio: about what you do for testing, so that we don't duplicate work in the cert process
[15:03] <zyga> elopio: and which tools you use
[15:03] <elopio> zyga: yes!
[15:03] <zyga> elopio: quick idea: get a different SD card
[15:03] <zyga> elopio: flash that
[15:03] <elopio> do you want to emet in 30 minutes?
[15:03] <zyga> elopio: and hold the user key while booting
[15:03] <zyga> elopio: sure
[15:03] <zyga> elopio: just ping me, I'll be around
[15:04] <elopio> zyga: I don't press the button, my board doesn't require that. I can try.
[15:05] <kyrofa> Chipaca, the only significant limitation (as far as I can tell) is its inability to use lower-case dbus method names
[15:05] <zyga> elopio: then the test process is wrong
[15:05] <zyga> elopio: as this means the test depends on what you have on emmc
[15:05] <zyga> elopio: and you really boot the emmc boot loader
[15:05] <zyga> elopio: not the one on the card
[15:05] <elopio> I see.
[15:05] <zyga> elopio: let's talk about that and everything else in a hangout
[15:05] <zyga> elopio: when you can
[15:07] <sergiusens> kyrofa: that looks nice (godbus)
[15:08] <kyrofa> sergiusens, I've been really happy with my limited testing, but I wanted to see if there was a reason most Canonical projects were using go-dbus on launchpad (the similar naming is unfortunate, but I'm not sure what else I'd choose)
[15:09] <sergiusens> kyrofa: maintained by someone in Canonical was one of the reasons
[15:09] <kyrofa> sergiusens, that makes sense
[15:09] <sergiusens> kyrofa: the other one I saw was the one coreos guys wrote, but I don't think we have any strong criteria
[15:10] <kyrofa> sergiusens, I just... must write tests. I feel so dirty when I have a huge chunk of completely untested code
[15:15] <kyrofa> sergiusens, Chipaca: If you were starting another go project that used dbus, would you use go-dbus again?
[15:15] <sergiusens> kyrofa: for that dbus code base?
[15:15] <sergiusens> kyrofa: I would try not to use dbus at all :-P
[15:16] <kyrofa> sergiusens, ah, yes, that :P
[15:21] <zyga> sergiusens: heh
[15:21] <zyga> sergiusens: I know that from somewhere
[15:21] <zyga> sergiusens: dbus is good, but ramps complexity a lot
[15:22] <longsleep> I just received my first set of bug reports for the ODRIDDC image builder - one is '"sudo: unable to resolve host odroid"' - is that a problem i can solve with some yaml options?
[15:29] <Chipaca> ogra_: whine, whine, whine :-p
[15:29] <sergiusens> longsleep: that's a snappy bug afaik as /etc/host is not updated
[15:30] <seb128> slangasek, in the vmlinuz .signed case, should that be "vmlinuz" or does the .signed matters in the naming?
[15:36] <elopio> zyga: fgimenez: the meeting is running late. Lets better do it tomorrow, I'll schedule it for 14:00 utc.
[15:36] <elopio> zyga: is it a good time for you?
[15:36] <fgimenez> elopio, fine with me
[15:37] <longsleep> sergiusens: All right thanks - i will add it to launchpad if not already there
[15:38] <zyga> elopio: let's see
[15:38] <zyga> elopio: yes
[15:39] <zyga> elopio: well
[15:39] <zyga> elopio: maybe not, I have a snappy meeting on 15:00 my time which is probably 14:00 utc
[15:39] <zyga> elopio: let's do it next week
[15:39] <zyga> elopio: I'll know more
[15:39] <mvo> jdstrand: here is another approach I was remembering https://lists.debian.org/debian-dpkg/2014/08/msg00006.html about signatures
[15:40] <zyga> elopio: can you tell me where you have a list of tests to perform on new images?
[15:40] <Chipaca> kyrofa: i'm not sure that dbus binding was there when we went looking for one
[15:40] <zyga> elopio: and I'll send a quick agenda for next week
[15:40] <Chipaca> kyrofa: give it a try and let us know :)
[15:40] <elopio> zyga: this is what we are using as a starting poing.
[15:40] <kyrofa> Chipaca, alright, good to know :)
[15:40] <elopio> *point
[15:41] <jdstrand> mvo: yes, ima is captured as well. that is an interesting idea for snaps
[15:41] <elopio> zyga: we can do the meeting on tuesday at 13:00, I'll just get up a little earlier. Otherwise your standup and our standup are in the way.
[15:41] * jdstrand updates doc
[15:41] <elopio> zyga: also, confirmed that when I boot with the button pressed, I get into debian.
[15:41] <elopio> without the button, snappy.
[15:42] <zyga> elopio: I can skip my standup
[15:42] <zyga> elopio: that's really weird, that should be entirely reverse
[15:42] <Chipaca> kyrofa: places where dbus bindings struggle is in complicated variants (like some of the ones we use for menues and such), and services with dynamic paths
[15:42] <zyga> 17:40 < elopio> zyga: this is what we are using as a starting poing.
[15:42] <zyga> elopio: ^^ what?
[15:42] <Chipaca> kyrofa: so keep a look out for those
[15:42] <elopio> zyga: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R_Tw0N0QbEpjFeYf9XnVV8Gp8ldT2Ig0PO6MfR-kuSM/edit#heading=h.2sakiuiw8x0b
[15:43] <zyga> elopio: thanks
[15:43] <Chipaca> kyrofa: also, async is hard; look for races
[15:43] <zyga> elopio: I think we will cooperate on those a lot
[15:43] <Chipaca> kyrofa: (on amd64, go build -race is your friend)
[15:43] <mvo> jdstrand: cool, thanks. I only glanced over your doc so far (sorry) so I missed that its already covered
[15:43] <elopio> zyga: the idea is to get all of that and more automated here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/snappy/snappy/files/head:/integration-tests/run-in-image/tests/
[15:43] <zyga> elopio: do you know about plainbox/checkbox?
[15:44] <elopio> zyga: moar hands! :)
[15:44] <kyrofa> Chipaca, yeah I've been wanting to play with that race detector!
[15:44] <elopio> zyga: yes, you told me the basics about it some months ago.
[15:44] <seb128> slangasek, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11696900/ looks fine to you?
[15:44] <zyga> elopio: ok,
[15:44] <Chipaca> kyrofa: keep in mind the race detector is racy :)
[15:44] <kyrofa> Chipaca, thanks for the list of trouble-spots-- exactly what I was looking for :)
[15:45] <elopio> zyga: atm, we don't really have any tests that need manual intervention. This month we'll attempt at automating them and run them with adt-run.
[15:45] <zyga> elopio: ok, lots of things to check and think, let's talk next week, we'll definitely need to automate those tests too but in a way that runs with plainbox, let's think about how we can share those
[15:45] <jdstrand> mvo: no, that thread wasn't covered (I just added it now), but IMA in general was
[15:45] <zyga> elopio: adt-run over ssh against a deployed machine?
[15:45] <jdstrand> mvo: thanks for the link
[15:45] <elopio> zyga: yes.
[15:45] <zyga> elopio: ok
[15:46] <elopio> zyga: and +1. Lets share our ideas next week, and see how to join the effort.
[15:46] <zyga> elopio: ok
[15:46] <mvo> jdstrand: cool, thank you
[15:46] <jdstrand> sergiusens: hey, you said you wanted some information for my bbb situation?
[15:47] * jdstrand reboots it
[15:47] <jdstrand> somehow it keeps getting stuck
[15:49] <elopio> zyga: this is our playground: https://code.launchpad.net/~fgimenez/snappy/go-functional-tests. A wrapper that provisions a machine, then adt-run deploys the go end-to-end tests, runs them and collects the results.
[15:49] <sergiusens> jdstrand: snappy-system.txt in /boot/uboot and OS versions so if nothing works channel.ini from each partition
[15:49] <elopio> zyga: still a prototype, so any suggestions are welcome.
[15:50] <zyga> elopio: I sent out an invite
[15:50] <zyga> elopio: correct the time, I'm not sure what time suits you
[15:50] <zyga> elopio: should I look at the merge request or at the whole tree
[15:50] <elopio> zyga: it suits me but fgimenez EODs in the middle of the meeting.
[15:51] <zyga> fgimenez: what time would work for you? earlier than stand up?
[15:51] <fgimenez> elopio, zyga here's the mp, maybe better to see the changes https://code.launchpad.net/~fgimenez/snappy/go-functional-tests/+merge/261748
[15:51] <zyga> elopio: I'm not faimilar with snappy codebase, I don't know where to look basically
[15:51] <slangasek> seb128: the .signed doesn't matter in the naming, it's just to disambiguate on the source filesystem when both are installed; and the tooling expects the filename of 'vmlinuz' so 'vmlinuz' it shall be
[15:52] <slangasek> seb128: yes that diff looks ok to me
[15:52] <seb128> slangasek, k, so that diff ... thanks
[15:52] <fgimenez> zyga, elopio yep, 14:00 utc would be fine
[15:52] <jdstrand> sergiusens: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11696954/ (I think that is what you need wrt /writable/cache/system)
[15:53] * zyga wonders how to show utc in google calendar
[15:54] <jdstrand> sergiusens: do not, this is not the 'some weird image issue' we discussed a week or two ago-- I reflashed after asking you if udf was new enough (and you said yes)
[15:54] <jdstrand> s/do not/do note/
[15:54] <elopio> zyga: settings -> additional time zone.
[15:55] <jdstrand> sergiusens: so, snappy_ab=b but:
[15:55] <jdstrand> /dev/mmcblk0p2 999320 553640 376868 60% /writable/cache/system
[15:55] <jdstrand> /dev/mmcblk0p1 64511 39328 25183 61% /boot/uboot
[15:55] <jdstrand> it seems that 'a' booted? (guessing that p1 is 'a' and p2 is 'b')
[15:55] <sergiusens> p2 is a
[15:56] <sergiusens> p1 is boot ;-)
[15:56] <jdstrand> oh
[15:56] <ogra_> that doesnt look like mounted on "a"
[15:56] <zyga> elopio: thanks!
[15:56] <jdstrand> well, /writable/cache/system/etc/system-image/channel.ini has 'build_number: 82'
[15:56] <jdstrand> but snappy list says I am on 79
[15:57] <zyga> elopio, fgimenez: ok, I think it's moved to 14:00 utc now
[15:57] <jdstrand> sergiusens: ^
[15:57] * jdstrand doesn't really know anything about this part of snappy
[15:57] <jdstrand> so, please advise
[15:58] <sergiusens> jdstrand: snappy list --verbose
[15:58] <jdstrand> /dev/disk/by-label/system-b 999320 462180 468328 50% /
[15:59] <jdstrand> sergiusens: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11697005/
[15:59] <elopio> zyga: what happens to you if you boot without holding the button?
[15:59] <zyga> elopio: the console just streams 'C' 'C' 'C'
[15:59] <zyga> elopio: probably boot-over-serial handshake
[15:59] <zyga> elopio: er, wait
[15:59] <zyga> elopio: without the card
[15:59] <zyga> elopio: holding the button has no effect for me
[15:59] <ogra_> thats the ROM then
[15:59] <zyga> elopio: as emmc is empty
[15:59] <zyga> ogra_: right
[15:59] <sergiusens> jdstrand: if you manually run snappy update, before rebooting can you give me snappy-system.txt and reboot
[16:00] <ogra_> telling you it cant find a boot sector
[16:00] <zyga> yep
[16:00] <zyga> ogra_: with the card in I get uboot and the pastebin earlier (snappy_boot not defined)
[16:00] * jdstrand runs sudo shutdown -c
[16:01] <jdstrand> sergiusens: fyi, here is an updated paste that has df at the bottom: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11697009/
[16:02] <jdstrand> sergiusens: so the bottom of: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11697014/
[16:02] <jdstrand> see*
[16:03] <fgimenez> elopio, the branch is under my user, maybe we can put it elsewhere so that the team can collaborate?
[16:04] <elopio> fgimenez: I
[16:04] <elopio> fgimenez: as you prefer. We can do the same proposing branches to merge against yours.
[16:04] <zyga> elopio, fgimenez: use git!
[16:04] <zyga> :)
[16:04] <jdstrand> sergiusens: I have not rebooted
[16:04] <elopio> fgimenez: the qa policy of the shared branch was nice, but not sure this team needs it.
[16:06] <fgimenez> zyga, yep :) elopio ok, merging of other branches sounds good
[16:10] <elopio> fgimenez: and from now until the game ends, we are enemies.
[16:10] <elopio> I might talk to you again when Navas is the goalkeeper of Real Madrid.
[16:11] <ogra_> oh, who plays ?
[16:11] <elopio> ogra_: Costa Rica - Spain.
[16:11] <ogra_> something erious or just a freinds game ?
[16:11] <ogra_> *serious
[16:11] <fgimenez> elopio, casillas is free to be hired too i think :)
[16:12] * ogra_ guesses everthing will be better than ger - usa was :P
[16:12] <sergiusens> jdstrand: it seems consistent, so you updated, a is selected which has 82
[16:12] <elopio> it's friendly.
[16:13] <ogra_> ah, a relaxed one then :)
[16:13] <sergiusens> jdstrand: it would interesting to view what happens during the reboot (u-boot failing to find the files, corrupted, kernel crashing, systemd causing a reboot) and if that is the reason you get sent back to 'b' and 79
[16:20] <fgimenez> leaving, nice evening everyone, elopio don't be too worry about the result, maybe next time.. :D
[16:21] <jdstrand> sergiusens: how would I see that? I don't have a serial console
[16:23] <sergiusens> jdstrand: oh, yeah that makes it hard... /proc/last_kmsg for the kernel but not sure how to see anything else
[16:23] <sergiusens> jdstrand: oh, hdmi out from the bbb
[16:24] <sergiusens> but you need one of those mini plugs
[16:24] <jdstrand> yeah, I don't have one
[16:25] <jdstrand> well, I'll reboot and see what happens
[16:26] <jdstrand> sergiusens: is there a way that the logging can be improved for debugging this sort of thing?
[16:28] <jdstrand> sergiusens: it can up in 79
[16:28] <sergiusens> jdstrand: well you won't be able to see what happens at the bootloader level though
[16:29] <sergiusens> jdstrand: 'find /boot/uboot -ls' (and checksum maybe)
[16:29] <jdstrand> I don't have /proc/last_kmsg
[16:29] <jdstrand> seems I'm stuck
[16:30] <sergiusens> jdstrand: in theory /boot/uboot/a/* should be the same as /boot/uboot/b/*
[16:30] <ogra_> ppisati, ^^^^ could we enable the ram console for our arm builds ?
[16:30] * ogra_ wanted to ask that before ... now jdstrand reminded me :)
[16:30] <jdstrand> $ diff -Naur /boot/uboot/a/ /boot/uboot/b/ && echo yes
[16:31] <jdstrand> yes
[16:31] <ogra_> /proc/last_kmsg is one of the most helpful things
[16:31] <jdstrand> $ cat /proc/last_kmsg
[16:31] <jdstrand> cat: /proc/last_kmsg: No such file or directory
[16:31] <ogra_> yeah
[16:31] <jdstrand> is that the 'ram console' ?
[16:31] <ogra_> not enabled in the kernel
[16:32] <jdstrand> hmm
[16:32] <ogra_> i think it is called that in the kernel config
[16:32] <sergiusens> jdstrand: snappy-system.txt is back to snappy_ab=b and snappy_mode=regular, right?
[16:33] <jdstrand> so, I'm not sure autopilot has ever worked right on my device. every time I try to log into it it is either telling me it is going to reboot or is wedged somehow and I can't ssh in
[16:33] <jdstrand> snappy_ab=b
[16:33] <jdstrand> snappy_mode=regular
[16:33] <jdstrand> yes
[16:35] <jdstrand> sergiusens: as it happens, I have the image from Jun 1 that I used to flash the device
[16:35] <jdstrand> it was r72
[16:35] <jdstrand> I know I did a snappy update/reboot manually at least once
[16:36] <sergiusens> jdstrand: mind creating a new image with --revision=-1?
[16:36] <jdstrand> I'm not sure if autopilots worked or that did
[16:36] <sergiusens> jdstrand: autopilot is just something that runs snappy update
[16:38] <jdstrand> sergiusens: sure. I'm using this: sudo ubuntu-device-flash core --channel=edge --oem=beagleblack --enable-ssh --output=15.04-edge.bbb 15.04
[16:38] <jdstrand> sergiusens: with udf 0.23-0ubuntu2
[16:38] <jdstrand> sergiusens: it will take me a while to flash the card
[16:39] <jdstrand> sergiusens: actually, I forget --revision=-1. so I'll use that. isn't that going to give me the lastest version?
[16:40] <sergiusens> jdstrand: latest minus 1
[16:44] <jdstrand> ah, cool
[16:46] <jdstrand> sergiusens: ok, I'll ping you
[16:46] <sergiusens> jdstrand: so sudo ubuntu-device-flash --revision=-1 core --channel=edge --oem=beagleblack --enable-ssh --output=15.04-edge.bbb 15.04
[16:46] <sergiusens> jdstrand: and i'm going for lunch now :-)
[16:47] <jdstrand> that is the command I run ftr
[16:48] <jdstrand> ran*
[17:00] <zyga> elopio: if you want, I can pastebin the contents of my files on the boot partition
[17:00] <zyga> elopio: still not sure what's going on
[17:01] <elopio> zyga: please do that, but attach them in the bug.
[17:01] <zyga> elopio: k
[17:01] <elopio> I'm learning here, so I won't be able to make a lot of sense of the files.
[17:01] <elopio> somebody else from the team will look at your bug and triage it.
[17:06] <zyga> elopio: updated, thanks for your help
[17:06] <elopio> np.
[17:50] <jdstrand> sergiusens: ok, the system is running r81
[17:51] <jdstrand> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11697548/
[18:01] <jdstrand> sergiusens: fyi, "snappy autopilot triggered a reboot to boot into an up to date system"
[18:01] <jdstrand> sergiusens: so waiting for that to happen automatically
[18:02] <jdstrand> sergiusens: also, just noticed a typo: "snappy autopilot triggered a reboot to boot into an up to date system-- temprorarily"
[18:02] <jdstrand> sergiusens: s/temprorarily/temporarily/
[18:07] <elopio> hum, now there's something wrong with the selftests from trunk.
[18:07] <elopio> it asks for password, and never connects to the ssh.
[18:21] <elopio> now it works. weird.
[18:22] <jdstrand> sergiusens: ok, ir upgraded and rebooted into 82 fine. for somereason I have a feeling it is the 2nd update. eg 80 -> 81 -> 82, but I have no evidence to support that
[18:33] <sergiusens> jdstrand: if it's the second update b would have 81 and you'd be on a with 82
[18:36] <jdstrand> sergiusens: well, I'll keep an eye out for what happens with 83
[18:36] <jdstrand> sergiusens: did you see the typo comment above?
[18:39] * zyga bought a new card to try
[18:48] <jdstrand> sergiusens: thanks for helping me with that. I wish we had a better resolution, but like I said, I'll keep an eye on it
[18:48] <sergiusens> jdstrand: yup, saw the typo :-)
[18:49] <sergiusens> jdstrand: and yes, we need to track the upgrades better, elopio raised a bug on something similar to what you saw (but different).
[18:50] <jdstrand> yeah, that prompted me to bring it up. wasn't sure if it was the same or not
[18:56] <jdstrand> Norbell: hey, fyi I in my spare time looked at packaging ufw as a snap
[18:57] <jdstrand> Norbell: there are several issues that prevent it from working correctly. I am jotting those down and will be filing bugs/bringing the issues up to the snappy architects
[18:59] <Norbell> @jdstrand Awesome. Thats realy realy cool. :)
[18:59] <nothal> Norbell: No such command!
[18:59] <jdstrand> Norbell: the two most major ones were that iptable_filter and ip6table_filter didn't autoload (so it can't work on reboot) and that extending privileges are needed to run it (eg, capability net-admin)
[19:00] <jdstrand> Norbell: since obviously routers, firewalls, etc are interesting to snappy, I'll be presenting the problems and propose a solution to the architects
[19:00] <jdstrand> this won't be fixed really soon, but we'll get it to the point where it can be done
[19:02] <Norbell> jdstrand: Interesting. I thought Canonical had Routers and Firewall in mind during the process of creating snappy. I mean, they advertise this feature
[19:02] <jdstrand> Norbell: however, these can be worked around now-- if you adjust /etc/modules to load iptable_filter and ip6table_filter you should then be able to use 'security-policy' in your app yaml for handcrafted policy and have something that works on your system
[19:03] <jdstrand> Norbell: well, yes, which is why I want to bring this up :)
[19:05] <jdstrand> I don't think it is a ton of work. the kernel module autoloading is just a bug and the other just needs a bit of design and small implementation
[19:06] <Norbell> jdstrand: Thank you. ;) Tomorrow i will try to get it running on my pi 2. This would be a great feature for my bachelor thesis ;)
[19:07] <jdstrand> Norbell: actually, you could probably get away with adjusting /etc/modules and then use 'security-teamplte: unconfined' in you app yaml
[19:08] <jdstrand> Norbell: it won't be confined, but it should run until we get this bit worked out
[19:08] <jdstrand> Norbell: you can also look at the webdm packaging for how to use 'security-policy' if you wanted it to run confined with custom policy
[19:09] <jdstrand> note: neither of those will be allowed in the snappy store, but it should unblock you
[19:09] <jdstrand> sergiusens: btw, did you ever update your seccomp policy in webdm?
[19:13] <Norbell> jdstrand: Okay. Thank you for the great advises. I will try it. for the first time its enough to get it running on my pi. Hopefully it will get available in the main release ;)
[19:14] <sergiusens> jdstrand: no, not yet
[19:14] <sergiusens> sorry no easy link to link to :-)
[19:15] <jdstrand> sergiusens: is it in bzr?
[19:16] <jdstrand> sergiusens: I can give an MP
[19:16] <jdstrand> sergiusens: at least, the start of one :)
[19:18] <sergiusens> jdstrand: lp:webdm
[19:23] <jdstrand> sergiusens: is it known that removing an app via webdm fails with: ERROR: hook command /usr/bin/aa-clickhook failed with exit status 2
[19:24] <sergiusens> jdstrand: no
[19:24] <sergiusens> jdstrand: and I wasn't seeing that with my testing yesterday
[19:24] <jdstrand> hmm
[19:25] <sergiusens> jdstrand: the only one that fails is the one I asked about yesterday (dbus fw and ReleaseName being allowed or not)
[19:25] <jdstrand> no seccomp denial, but ERROR snappy logger.go:199 hook command /usr/bin/aa-clickhook failed with exit status 2
[19:26] <sergiusens> jdstrand: any specific app?
[19:26] <jdstrand> hello-dbus-app
[19:26] <jdstrand> but running webdm under seccomp
[19:26] <sergiusens> jdstrand: hmm, that's the one I asked about yesterday
[19:26] <sergiusens> jdstrand: I guess my question got lost
[19:26] * sergiusens searches
[19:26] <jdstrand> did you ask me about it?
[19:27] <jdstrand> cause if yes, then yes, it got lost
[19:27] <sergiusens> irclogs/Freenode/#snappy.log:11:19 < sergiusens> jdstrand: not sure it's my image, but is ReleaseName allowed? [ 3993.417227] audit: type=1107 audit(1433945875.311:61): pid=604 uid=100 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 msg='apparmor="DENIED" operation="dbus_method_call" bus="system" path="/org/freedesktop/DBus" interface="org.freedesktop.DBus" member="ReleaseName" mask="send" name="org.freedesktop.DBus" pid=1439 label="hello-dbus-fwk_srv_1.0.0" peer_lab
[19:27] <sergiusens> there
[19:27] <jdstrand> interesting
[19:28] <sergiusens> jdstrand: that happens when uninstalling and causes an error on remove (it ends up removing anyways in the end)
[19:28] <jdstrand> I wonder what changed that prompted that
[19:28] <jdstrand> sergiusens: which were you uninstalling?
[19:29] <sergiusens> jdstrand: hello dbus fwk
[19:29] <jdstrand> ok, let me look into this
[19:30] <jdstrand> alright, so running under seccomp there was an issue, but no logging
[19:30] <jdstrand> I keep feeling like logging isn't fantastic on the bbb
[19:31] <jdstrand> as in, messages getting dropped
[19:31] <jdstrand> sergiusens: is hello-dbus-fwk removal via webdm?
[19:31] <sergiusens> jdstrand: yeah
[19:32] <sergiusens> jdstrand: let me setup; just finished tracking down an unreleased file descriptor that blocked unmounting and will get more details
[19:32] <jdstrand> sergiusens: I can confirm that
[19:32] <jdstrand> no need
[19:32] <jdstrand> sergiusens: I got it from here
[19:32] <jdstrand> I just need to decide how to fix it
[19:33] <sergiusens> Chipaca: rsalveti: ogra_ I found the root cause of the unmounting issues https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/snappy/releaseDaReadme/+merge/261778
[19:33] <ogra_> ha !
[19:33] <Chipaca> sergiusens: how big is the dent in your forehead (after hitting the desk with it)?
[19:34] <sergiusens> Chipaca: lol; bigger when figuring out lsof gives more information than fuser :-)
[19:34] <sergiusens> Chipaca: this can explain why long running webdm instances can all of the sudden block too, so I'll need to rebuild webdm after this is out
[19:36] <sergiusens> Chipaca: also http://paste.ubuntu.com/11698150/
[19:36] <sergiusens> Chipaca: it's not logged, reason for no line number
[19:36] <rsalveti> sergiusens: nice
[19:36] <rsalveti> wow, that's an interesting root cause
[19:37] <sergiusens> rsalveti: well it blocks an unmount; I'm making u-d-f not try to unmap if mounting fails and not obfuscate the real error now
[19:37] <sergiusens> *unmounting
[19:37] <rsalveti> right
[19:38] <rsalveti> sergiusens: then guess we need another round of releases
[19:38] <sergiusens> rsalveti: well snappy in core doesn't use this
[19:38] <rsalveti> I mean, tools releases
[19:38] <sergiusens> rsalveti: so it's not important; tools, yes
[19:38] <rsalveti> push ubuntu-snappy and then rebuild udf
[19:38] <sergiusens> rsalveti: yup
[19:38] <rsalveti> great
[19:39] <sergiusens> rsalveti: and webdm, webdm does open (indirectly) that readme file
[19:39] <rsalveti> alright
[19:39] <sergiusens> so I'll push that to the store today too
[19:39] <rsalveti> awesome
[19:39] <sergiusens> another reason to kill that useless readme.md :-P
[19:40] <jdstrand> sergiusens: fyi, I'll have a fix for hello-dbus-fwk in a few minutes
[19:40] <sergiusens> jdstrand: oh, it's in hello-dbus-fwk itself?
[19:40] <jdstrand> yes
[19:40] <jdstrand> it is a framework so it ships its own policy
[19:40] <sergiusens> right
[19:41] <jdstrand> it RequestName()s to bind t the well-known connection name, but isn't allowed to ReleaseName() it
[19:41] <sergiusens> jdstrand: writing policies takes some iterating I've discovered :-)
[19:41] <jdstrand> it can, yes
[19:44] <rsalveti> sergiusens: going back to my previous question, what happend, or who asked for webdm to be a framework?
[19:44] <rsalveti> and the following up question, would it just be an app once we provide the rest api?
[19:45] <sergiusens> rsalveti: mark; and I asked the same question you did
[19:46] <rsalveti> right, guess we'll go over this again eventually
[19:47] <sergiusens> rsalveti: yeah, you can bring it up end of June or start of July ;-)
[19:47] <rsalveti> right :-)
[20:03] <kgunn> jdstrand: hey, so i had a chance to toy with mir snap, i just changed the security-template to nondefault
[20:04] <kgunn> which i thot i could do to basically get networking groups....thot that might be enough to hit the next hurdle
[20:04] <kgunn> but i'm failing to install
[20:04] <kgunn> that was the only thing i changed
[20:05] <kgunn> any ideas ? or...how to debug? (i bascially know nothing :)
[20:06] <jdstrand> sergiusens: ok, hello-dbus-fwk 1.0.1 uploaded. there is no apparmor denial now (so I tink my part is done), but if I remove it via webdm 'Removing...' never goes away
[20:06] <jdstrand> sergiusens: now that is on a system where I was removing/adding/sideloading before removing and install again from the store
[20:07] <jdstrand> sergiusens: so not sure if there is another issue or if it is a local issue
[20:07] <elopio> gooooool!
[20:07] <jdstrand> kgunn: is there a bzr branch somewhere?
[20:08] <kgunn> jdstrand: lemme push....
[20:11] <kgunn> jdstrand: lp:~mir-team/mir/snappy-packaging
[20:11] <kgunn> just cd into snappy-packaging and run make
[20:12] <jdstrand> sergiusens: it says 'Sorry something went wrong', but it is removed from the list if I reload
[20:14] <jdstrand> kgunn: there are 2 package.yamls. one in overlay/meta and one in snappy-packaging/overlay/meta
[20:15] <jdstrand> kgunn: I guess I should be looking at the one in snappy-packaging/overlay/meta ?
[20:16] <kgunn> jdstrand: should only be the one
[20:16] <kgunn> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mir-team/mir/snappy-packaging/files/head:/overlay/meta/
[20:16] <jdstrand> heh, well, I promise there are two :)
[20:16] <kgunn> what the heck
[20:17] <jdstrand> and they have different contents
[20:17] <jdstrand> one has your security-template change, and the other uses security-policy
[20:17] <jdstrand> so I don't really know what to comment on
[20:18] <jdstrand> except to say that the security-template change won't work. 'nondefault' isn't a valid template
[20:18] <jdstrand> on a device or in a kvm you can do 'snappy-security list' and see the available templates
[20:18] <sergiusens> jdstrand: let me check the logs
[20:21] <jdstrand> sergiusens: is that your logs or my logs?
[20:23] <kgunn> jdstrand: so i just pulled a clean lp branch and i only see one yaml ?
[20:23] <jdstrand> kgunn: since you said you aren't familiar with this, you might want to read these:
[20:23] <jdstrand> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/security-policy/
[20:23] <kgunn> also...wrt nondefault...
[20:23] <jdstrand> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/frameworks/
[20:23] <sergiusens> jdstrand: I'll setup
[20:23] <kgunn> jdstrand: so i did specifcally on
[20:23] <kgunn> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/security-policy/
[20:23] <kgunn> there's an example there...
[20:23] <kgunn> which uses nondefault
[20:23] <kgunn> and indicated in the text it would get network-client
[20:24] <kgunn> am i just interpreting the example in the wiki incorrectly?
[20:24] <jdstrand> kgunn: yes, that is just trying to say 'anything else that is on the device that isn't 'default''
[20:24] <jdstrand> you are
[20:24] <kgunn> k
[20:25] <jdstrand> kgunn: in the example yaml, 'qux' does get 'network-client' since 'caps' isn't specified for 'qux'
[20:25] <kgunn> jdstrand: so i see from the core i'm running it has network-client, network-services, networking
[20:25] <kgunn> so i can pick from those...
[20:25] <jdstrand> kgunn: but 'nondefault' isn't a usable template in real-life
[20:25] <kgunn> but what do you do if you want some capability not in those 3 ?
[20:26] <jdstrand> there is a trello card for the community team to get a tutorial going so people don't have to read thick guides
[20:27] <jdstrand> kgunn: to answer that question, you write your own policy (security-policy) or provide an override (security-override, which is akin to the click security manifest). but let's back up. what are you trying to accomplish here?
[20:28] <jdstrand> kgunn: note, framework snaps, which mir is, will almost use 'security-policy' since they are extending the system or need privileged access
[20:28] <jdstrand> s/almost/almost always/
[20:28] <jdstrand> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/frameworks/
[20:28] <jdstrand> "Frameworks are tightly coupled with separately maintained security policies that extend the security policy available to apps consuming a framework"
[20:28] <jdstrand> "Frameworks are developed and iterated by parties that have a contractual relationship with Canonical"
[20:29] <jdstrand> "Unlike apps, frameworks have special permissions which allow them elevated access to the system. For the official Ubuntu store, a contract will include terms to ensure framework safety and maintenance"
[20:30] <jdstrand> kgunn: so an *app* developer focuses on simple templates and caps whereas a *framework* developer uses security-policy and provides framework-policy
[20:30] <jdstrand> (typically)
[20:31] <jdstrand> kgunn: ok, I think I see what happened to my bzr branch. I already had one and I accidentally moved the one I pulled today into the other one
[20:32] <jdstrand> heheh, funny
[20:33] <jdstrand> kgunn: so at some point in the past I guess someone was using security policy
[20:33] <jdstrand> security-policy
[20:33] <jdstrand> but it was removed
[20:36] <jdstrand> kgunn: this also is what I reviewed
[20:36] <jdstrand> err
[20:36] <jdstrand> kgunn: this also isn't what I reviewd in the store
[20:37] <bladernr_> can someone point me to some document that explains how to add things like python libraries to a snap? The tutorials and such all seem based on stand alone apps and already included libararies, and I've not found an example yet that shows adding thigns like custom or externally created libraries to a snap
[20:44] <jdstrand> kgunn: so, what are you trying to achieve when you changed 'unconfined' to 'nondefault'
[20:45] <jdstrand> kgunn: fyi, I was wrong about it not being what I reviewed. I see now that what is in the store used the 'unconfined' template
[21:01] <jdstrand> jjohansen: hey, can you think of a reason what a process running under seccomp can't unload an apparmor profile?
[21:02] <jdstrand> jjohansen: I'm not getting a log message
[21:06] <tedg> bladernr_, We don't have something like that yet, we're working on a tool to help with it. But there's a lot of good information on mostly using the Python that is there today here: http://www.wefearchange.org/2015/04/creating-python-snaps.html
[21:06] <jdstrand> jjohansen: does it have something to do with MAC_ADMIN?
[21:07] <jjohansen> jdstrand: not that I know of
[21:07] <jdstrand> ok, I'll keep investigating
[21:08] <kgunn> jdstrand: sorry, distracted, thanks for all that....so with a framework, i figure you need priviledges to access system stuff...and then capabilities to express what an app might want to use (in your fmwk)
[21:08] <kgunn> so the security-policy is the means for the fmwk to access system stuff ?
[21:08] <kgunn> just making sure i got it right
[21:10] <jdstrand> kgunn: a framework is there to provide a service to apps. a framework most often needs privileged access to something on the system. that privileged access is *not* expressed with security-templates and caps because *apps* don't need that access
[21:10] <jdstrand> kgunn: therefore, "security-policy" exists for framework authors to write their own apparmor policy for their service
[21:11] <jdstrand> kgunn: framework-policy is what your framework app ships. that *will* ship one or more caps and zero or more templates that *apps* can use
[21:12] <jdstrand> kgunn: the framework-policy caps ans template give apps access to your framework service(s)
[21:12] <kgunn> got that...that part makes sense now, e.g. when we build a gui snap on top, it'll use that cap from that fmwk policy
[21:12] <jdstrand> exactly
[21:12] <jdstrand> so the bit you were fiddling with is the framework service
[21:12] <jdstrand> it was using the 'unconfined' template
[21:13] <kgunn> right...so i can "use what i want" :) on the system..."i" being the fmwk
[21:13] <jdstrand> that is 'ok' for a demo, but it really should instead use "security-policy"
[21:13] <kgunn> got it
[21:13] <jdstrand> yes
[21:13] <jdstrand> secuiryt-policy is where you say "here is my handcrafted apparmor policy, and here is my handcrafted seccomp policy"
[21:14] <kgunn> for my fmwk...in order to access xyz on the system ?
[21:14] <jdstrand> yes
[21:14] <kgunn> got it now
[21:14] <jdstrand> so, you might go from this:
[21:14] <jdstrand> security-template: unconfined
[21:14] <jdstrand> to this:
[21:14] <jdstrand> security-policy:
[21:14] <jdstrand> apparmor: meta/mir.apparmor
[21:15] <jdstrand> seccomp: meta/mir.seccomp
[21:15] <kgunn> and those will contain a bunch of paths to bins and stuff ?
[21:15] <jdstrand> then you write your apparmor rules in meta/mir.apparmor and put the syscalls you need in meta/mir.seccomp
[21:15] <jdstrand> right
[21:15] <kgunn> and examples in wikis of seccomp file ?
[21:16] <kgunn> i think i kinda get the apparmor stuff
[21:16] <jdstrand> kgunn: kgunn you might want to see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Specifications/SnappyConfinement#Debugging
[21:17] * longsleep has fixed the system-boot fat corruption for ODROIDC by cherry-picking a bunch of U-Boot fixes
[21:17] <kgunn> jdstrand: thanks...i'll go tinker
[21:17] <jdstrand> kgunn: the seccomp policy is just a text file that is a list of syscalls
[21:18] <jdstrand> kgunn: you might start by installing the hello-world.canonical snap, then looking at /var/lib/snappy/seccomp/profiles/hello-world.canonical_env_1.0.17
[21:18] <jdstrand> kgunn: that just uses what is in the default template
[21:19] <kgunn> k
[21:19] <jdstrand> kgunn: a fun quality of seccomp is that it will kill your the process if it violates policy
[21:19] <kgunn> i saw that
[21:19] <kgunn> sigkill how great
[21:19] <jdstrand> kgunn: so watch your logs and see that Debugging page
[21:19] <jdstrand> it would be nice to do something different, but there isn't a safe way to do that
[21:20] <jdstrand> (eg, deny and log)
[21:20] <kgunn> i think it's kinda awesome
[21:20] <jdstrand> annyhoo
[21:20] <kgunn> violent
[21:20] <jdstrand> it is fun
[21:20] <kgunn> :)
[21:20] <jdstrand> and apparmor could do it too, but we choose not to :)
[21:20] <jdstrand> kgunn: so, couple of things--
[21:21] <jdstrand> kgunn: 1. do note that regular app developers aren't supposed to have to worry about apparmor rules and syscalls
[21:21] <jdstrand> kgunn: they just use templates and caps
[21:22] <kgunn> right
[21:22] <kgunn> i'm special that way
[21:22] <jdstrand> kgunn: 2. frameworks are quite special since they mediate access to a shared resource. mir falls into this category-- it is supposed to mediate access to the graphics card
[21:22] <jdstrand> kgunn: (that said I know that things aren't perfect there, but that is ok-- I know tvoss said that is a longer term goal)
[21:23] <jdstrand> kgunn: 3. framework authors should engage with Canonical on framework policy. so please ask questions, have us review the policy
[21:24] <jdstrand> kgunn: (but depending on how many frameworks come in, this might have to move to another team)
[21:25] <jdstrand> kgunn: 4. the framework should be designed in a way that the access the it gives out to apps via its framework-policy is safe for all apps to use, potentially simultaneously. ie, the framework should provide the same isolation and protect the system from attack
[21:25] <jdstrand> kgunn: (which is why framework authors engage with us)
[21:26] <jdstrand> we've been through all those talks wrt mir already for touch
[21:26] <jdstrand> but just trying to give context
[21:26] <jdstrand> that's it from my unless you have questions :)
[21:27] <jdstrand> oh, addendum to '4' - if the policy isn't safe for everyone, then the policy should include '# Usage: restricted' at the top of its framework-policy file
[21:29] <jdstrand> kgunn: hopefully this was useful to you :)
[21:30] <kgunn> very jdstrand, thanks, sorry i'm very elementary atm
[21:32] <jdstrand> no worries. snappy is pretty new :)
[21:36] <kgunn> jdstrand: one last one, i wondered....what would constitute a "policy isn't safe for everyone" situtation ?
[21:43] <jdstrand> kgunn: that is kinda discretionary, but giving out access to files in /dev, write access to areas outside of the app's area, granting capabilities, etc
[21:44] <jdstrand> which now you may understand why I mentioned hw-assign/oem in the review
[21:45] <jdstrand> jjohansen: fyi, if I run aa-clickhook under its own seccomp profile, it is fine, so I don't think it is an interaction between seccomp and apparmor at this time
[21:52] <jdstrand> sergiusens: I think what is happening is that snappy is running under the same seccomp policy that I am trying to give to webdm which is making it very grumpy. seccomp doesn't have the concept of an exec transition with a new profile
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[04:53] <barrydk> More Ubuntu Maaitjies
[06:47] <andrewlsd> Hi peeps.
[06:49] <andrewlsd> barrydk: you were here early. (according to the IRC logs, unless they're in UTC)
[07:01] <mazal> Hi andrewlsd
[07:02] <mazal> Yeah we start work at 6:15am already
[07:02] <mazal> Me and Barry
[07:02] <Kilos> morning mazal andrewlsd barrydk ThatGraemeGuy and others
[07:03] <andrewlsd> Wb Kilos
[07:03] <Kilos> ty
[07:03] <andrewlsd> late night mining?
[07:03] <Kilos> nono woke just before 7 and it was cold, so i thought 10 mins more wont hurt
[07:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[07:04] <Kilos> i have long 10 mins it seems
[07:04] <mazal> lol
[07:04] <mazal> Hi ThatGraemeGuy , Kilos
[07:10] * andrewlsd lurks, as usual
[07:11] <Kilos> np
[07:11] <Kilos> will ping you when im awake
[07:15] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:15] <Kilos> morning inetpro
[07:35] <TinuvaMac> morning gents
[07:36] <Kilos> hi TinuvaMac
[07:36] <andrewlsd> morning TinuvaMac
[07:36] * andrewlsd goes to find coffee
[07:37] <Jacques_Stry> Morning
[07:37] <Kilos> hi Jacques_Stry gaanit?
[07:38] <Jacques_Stry> Goed en oom
[07:39] <Kilos> goed dankie
[07:45] <Kilos> http://mybroadband.co.za/news/energy/128942-the-real-reasons-for-power-blackouts-in-south-africa.html
[07:47] <MaNI> was half expecting the ancient aliens guy
[07:48] <Kilos> lol
[07:54] <MaNI> doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that the delay of medupi and kusile are major causes though :p
[08:06] <mazal> all boils down to incompetance
[08:09] <MaNI> haha now they are blaming cloudy weather
[08:09] <MaNI> "Eskom has cited power loss from units across the country including cloudy weather conditions affecting solar power projects in the Northern Cape."
[08:09] <MaNI> *facepalm*
[08:09] <Kilos> lol
[08:43] <mazal> I wish I could fiber
[08:43] <Kilos> dont we all
[08:43] <mazal> 4mb fiber with 100gig data , only R350 rand
[08:43] <mazal> 4mb ADSL with only 15gig data , R530
[08:43] <Kilos> sjoe
[08:44] <mazal> Only SA
[08:44] <mazal> Maybe in 2150 my town will get fiber :P
[08:46] <MaNI> heh, I should have bought somewhere with fiber :(
[08:46] <mazal> I am amazed at how much cheaper for much more data it is against ADSL
[08:46] <Kilos> yeah
[08:47] <mazal> Because with ADSL there is Telkom's stupid rule that have to pay for a telephone line as well. Even if you don't want it , you must
[08:48] <mazal> That drives the price of an ADSL line up by R180 automatically
[08:48] <lin> wait...what?
[08:48] <lin> R180 per month?
[08:48] <mazal> Yeah
[08:48] <lin> That's brutal!
[08:48] <mazal> Roughly , it's R168 before VAT
[08:48] <lin> still....brutal..
[08:49] <mazal> And it's forced unto you if you want ADSL
[08:49] <lin> Almost unsustainable for a single user
[08:49] <lin> Internet access is a commodity
[08:49] <mazal> I have to pay that every month , even though I never use the phone
[08:49] <lin> But Telco's like cashing on it like a money cow
[08:49] <lin> Yes...I know that feel
[08:50] <mazal> But the 3g route's data is waaaaaaayyy to overpriced , so there a user is also screwed
[08:50] <lin> mazal, where are you located? ADSL sounds a bit overkill now..
[08:51] <mazal> ADSL still by far the most affordable on data rates
[08:51] <lin> Most telcos in Kenya will issue you a 3G USB dongle or a SOHO router with a SIM that you pay for as you use..
[08:51] <mazal> Data prices and dreadful signal strengths is what still killing the 3G way
[08:51] <lin> hmm...
[08:51] <lin> Do tell..
[08:52] <mazal> Where I live we still on normal edge
[08:52] <mazal> We don't even have 3g
[08:52] <Kilos> eish
[08:52] <mazal> And data prices , shees. I can get 20gig on ADSL for the same price as 1gig on 3G
[08:52] <Kilos> and im nagging telkom because my 3g is too slow
[08:52] <Kilos> hehe
[08:52] <Kilos> 3g is expensive
[08:53] <mazal> SA , all about getting rich without providing a service
[08:53] <MaNI> so true
[08:54] <MaNI> some wifi providers are a bit more affordable than ADSL - though not by a drastic amount, but that depends on where you live
[08:54] <mazal> We defnitely don't have that either
[08:55] <lin> What are your opinions on Neotel SA?
[08:56] <lin> The flight school I'll be attending in SA is provided for by Neotel..
[08:57] <MaNI> I'm enraged by what a failure they are
[08:57] <MaNI> it is almost like they signed some non compete as part of the licensing process or something
[08:58] <MaNI> wait multiple decades for a second national operator and when we finally get one they are a lame duck
[08:58] <lin> so with Neotel we're fucked...
[08:59] <MaNI> your flight school will probably get good enough service
[08:59] <MaNI> it is just that they have poor coverage and aren't really offering better packages, performance, price etc.
[09:00] <lin> wow
[09:00] <lin> At that rate, internet access in Kenya sounds way cheaper and faster.
[09:01] <lin> I pay about KES 3500 per month for Zuku internet, unlimited data, at 20 Mbps...
[09:01] <lin> That comes to about R300 p.m...
[09:02] <lin> And it's consistent..
[09:02] <MaNI> crazy
[09:02] <MaNI> is there a 'fair usage' policy on that?
[09:03] <MaNI> how unlimited is unlimited?
[09:03] <lin> On Zuku, no FUP.
[09:03] <MaNI> here it is not uncommon to buy 'unlimited' internet only to have it slow down to 9600 modem speeds because you used more than 30 gb :p
[09:03] <lin> On Zuku, they have no FUP...yet
[09:03] <lin> There's one network here that has that FUP policy...
[09:04] <lin> Orange Kenya..
[09:06] <MaNI> man thats depressing, R300 here will get you like 30gb of data on a 1Mb/s line - and thats on a cheaper wireless provider
[09:06] <lin> Orange KE has a similar policy
[09:06] <lin> They cap you to 64 KB/s if yoiu exceed your daily "unlimited" plan
[09:06] <MaNI> ADSL it won't even cover your line rental
[09:06] <lin> It caps out at about 300 MB
[09:06] <lin> Abd it's worth about KES 50 reneweable daily
[09:06] <lin> KES 50 is about R8 at most
[09:06] <lin> I'll come to SA packing my high-end Chinese router for that.
[09:06] <lin> Share that internet as much as possible.
[09:07] <lin> I believe internet access is a basic human right.
[09:07] <lin> Every one should have fast, affordable and accessible internet access no matter the locale.
[09:08] <lin> Ideally, without "value added packages" like what mazal is goinf through with the "free" phone line
[09:09] <MaNI> yeah it would be nice
[09:09] <MaNI> how many landline operators does Kenya have?
[09:10] <lin> Personally, I make an effort of creating an isolated open network on my premises so that any passer-by can use it. Of course, it's bandwidth-shaped so no one can cut me out by overloading..
[09:11] <lin> 1.
[09:11] <lin> Telkom Kenya.
[09:12] <MaNI> heh interesting
[09:12] <MaNI> I suppose it does help that you guys are not so far from everyone
[09:14] <lin> Nahh
[09:14] <lin> Most people use handsets
[09:14] <lin> Mobile phones
[09:14] <lin> Only businesses and a few people have fixed landlines to their premises
[09:19] <MaNI> do you guys have stable power? Maybe I should move to Kenya lol
[09:19] <stickyboy> MaNI: Yep. :P
[09:21] <lin> Mostly, MaNI
[09:21] <lin> mosty
[09:21] <lin> And no loadshedding!
[09:22] <Kilos> lol
[09:23] <Kilos> hi SDCDev
[09:23] <lin> So if you have good net, do share
[09:24] <MaNI> If I had good net I would, sadly not :p
[09:24] <lin> lol
[09:24] <MaNI> I'm on a 60gb capped account have to watch my bandwidth usage like a hawk
[09:25] <lin> lol
[09:25] <lin> Especially if you're a gamer
[09:25] <lin> And no Steam downloads for you..
[09:25] <lin> lol
[09:25] <MaNI> yeah accidentally let a game upgrade and I'm toast for the month
[09:25] <Kilos> eish
[09:25] <lin> GTA V is a 60GB download
[09:26] <Kilos> wow
[09:26] <lin> One touch on it and your monthly cap is done for.
[09:26] <MaNI> I don't have much time to game these days anyway though so its okay
[09:26] <lin> lucky you
[09:26] <lin> I need to check out this Akitio Thunderbolt HDD enclosure
[09:29] <lin> Can't see info on the mailing list..
[09:37] <magespawn> good day all
[09:38] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[09:40] <lin> hi magespawn
[09:53] <mazal> maaz
[09:53] <mazal> maaz I am talking to you
[09:53] <Maaz> mazal: Excuse me?
[09:53] <Kilos> lol
[09:53] <mazal> maaz what's for lunch ?
[09:53] <Maaz> mazal: Steers make the best burgers in town. http://www.steers.co.za/
[09:53] <Kilos> Maaz coffee on
[09:53] * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[09:54] <mazal> maaz , that's the best idea you had yet
[09:54] <Maaz> mazal: What?
[09:54] <mazal> Too bad we don't have a steers though :(
[09:54] <lin> lol
[09:57] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[09:58] <Kilos> Maaz gracias
[09:58] <Maaz> Kilos: ¡de nada!
[09:59] <mazal> maaz where is my coffee
[09:59] <Maaz> mazal: my coffee is finished...
[09:59] <mazal> I don't care about yours , where's mine
[09:59] <Kilos> haha
[10:01] <mazal> MaNI: I only have 15gig cap , just think how I have to tip-toe between game updates and playing
[10:02] <MaNI> haha ouch
[10:02] <MaNI> feels like a human right violation
[10:03] <Kilos> haha you guys want to try 2g per month
[10:03] <Kilos> with luck i can make it last 2 months
[10:03] <MaNI> only if you send me back in time like a decade
[10:04] <MaNI> I work from home, my emails alone probably use that much
[10:05] <Kilos> wow
[10:05] <magespawn> MaNI: freelance? or just work from home/
[10:05] <magespawn> ?
[10:05] <MaNI> just work from home
[10:06] <MaNI> though we are a small company so its almost the same thing as freelance I guess
[10:06] <magespawn> i have been trying to find something like that for myself
[10:06] <MaNI> except without the shortage of clients :p
[10:07] <mazal> Oom Kilos , mu midnight schedule managed to do half of those updates of last night at least hehehe
[10:07] <Kilos> sjoe
[10:08] <MaNI> magespawn what work do you do?
[10:10] <Kilos> he teaches game to use wifi
[10:10] <Kilos> hehe
[10:11] <mazal> That reminds me , what adsl with wi-fi router are good these days ?
[10:12] <mazal> I have a netgear , but nor very happy with it
[10:12] <mazal> not*
[11:07] <magespawn> MaNI: sort a system administrator, with one or two other things thrown in
[11:07] <magespawn> pc technician for anything with a microchip
[11:11] <MaNI> ahh okay, a bit harder for home work I guess
[11:14] <magespawn> system admin stuff can largely be done remotely, but a fair amount of what i do needs physical presence
[11:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> I just need a laptop and an internet connection
[11:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> or my phone, if its something dumb like it usually is
[11:18] <pieter2627> evening inetpro Kilos... and all others
[11:19] <Kilos> lol hi pieter2627
[11:24] <Private_User> afternoon peeps
[11:24] <Kilos> hi Private_User
[11:25] <Private_User> hey Kilos
[11:25] <magespawn> MaNI: try d-link, i like the few i have used, somebody recently recommended billion
[11:26] <Private_User> just curious MaNI, what work do you do from home IT stuff?
[11:26] <MaNI> programming mostly (c++)
[11:26] <Private_User> ah ok nice
[11:27] <Private_User> anybody else work from home here?
[11:27] <MaNI> http://www.tshwanedje.com/
[11:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> I can but typically don't
[11:27] <Private_User> I am wondering why many more companies do not allow there people to work from home
[11:28] <MaNI> discipline :P
[11:28] <MaNI> also if you have bigger teams the team work isn't as great I guess
[11:30] <Private_User> I worked in a company where all our work was done remotely and our teams were spread across the globe but they never gave us the option to work from home well they did say they would consider it after we past the initial phase of the project but there was always another reason or some other excuse as to why not yet but the mangers could freely work from home whenever they wished
[11:31] <Private_User> and we were responsible people well I was not sure of the others though
[11:31] <Private_User> lol
[11:31] <MaNI> yeah, its a trust thing I think, most managers want to micro manage people and think they will just play games all day long if they don't
[11:31] <Private_User> lol
[11:31] <MaNI> (unfortunately they probably aren't entirely wrong for a lot of people)
[11:32] <Private_User> yeah but that is true for some people I know a guy who used to "work" from home and on those days he did if you went to visit him he would be chilling outside in his garage working on his car or a friends car installing sound and enjoying a cold one
[11:32] <Private_User> lol
[11:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> "most" managers don't want to micromanage in my experience, only the crappy ones do that
[11:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> I don't even have a manager here in the traditional sense
[11:33] <MaNI> most manager are crappy ones :p
[11:33] <Private_User> well not to say he was not working he would walk into the house every now and then check emails and stuff
[11:33] <MaNI> but yeah, it does become difficult not to start taking liberties so its not for everyone :p
[11:34] <MaNI> I mean it starts out reasonable enough, maybe you can pop out and do the shopping during the day and then work a bit later in the afternoon to catch up and make your time more efficient that way
[11:34] <MaNI> but then you get in the habit of doing that and soon you are doing shit in work time you shouldn't, have to sort of keep an eye on it
[11:35] <MaNI> family/friends seem to think that because you are always at home you are always available as well etc.
[11:36] <MaNI> at the same time, in the other direction, work starts to invade your personal time
[11:36] <MaNI> lots of pros/cons I guess, it is quite different
[11:38] <Private_User> but I know in the UK many people work from home some of them live like 600KM away from the companies offices, we supported users from the UK remotely and sometimes they would have some hardware issue and then they would have to courir their machines or devices to the office
[11:39] <MaNI> yeah, I personally think its an improvement, I would struggle to transition back to an office routine again
[11:41] <Private_User> yeah and it saves time you are fresh when you start working not having to deal with traffic and tire yourself before getting to work and the company does not need to rent out big offic spaces
[11:42] <MaNI> but it's something I would only allow for people I trust and are established
[11:42] <MaNI> so I'd probably want people to come in to an office of some kind for at least the first year or something IDK
[11:43] <Private_User> yeah I guess some might take advantage
[11:43] <MaNI> if there are obvious delivery milestones you can keep control of it though
[11:44] <MaNI> I mean if I stopped working it would be fairly obvious as there would be more angry customers screaming at us for missed deadlines
[11:45] <MaNI> for a more junior position its maybe not as obvious, a good manager can probably tell though, but juniors probably benefit from having people around to assist them for a period
[11:45] <MaNI> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21043693 <- and then there is stuff like that
[11:49] <Private_User> lol
[11:49] <Private_User> that guy was smart and stupid
[11:49] <Private_User> if I were him I would have got the company to remote into my home private network
[11:50] <Private_User> setup some sort of connection to my work PC and then get them to connect that way
[11:50] <Private_User> that way to the company it would just look like a connection from my work pc in my home
[11:51] <Private_User> hehe but now MaNI is thinking yeah you see you are the type of person I will not hire
[11:51] <Private_User> lol
[11:53] <MaNI> haha, no I thought the same :p
[11:53] <Private_User> lol
[11:53] <magespawn> that way from their vpn point of view all the data is coming from your pc anyway
[11:54] <MaNI> if it weren't for the massive customer privacy breech and security issues I'd actually praise the guy
[11:54] <MaNI> from a purely business perspective if he can get someone else to do the work and keep me happy with the result then kudos to him
[11:54] <magespawn> sending the security key around the world is a bit of risk
[11:54] <MaNI> but yeah the privacy breech is a big problem :P
[11:55] <Private_User> but you gotta admit that is some out of the box thinking
[11:55] <Private_User> hehe
[11:55] <MaNI> violate the wrong NDA and company is in some big trouble
[11:55] <magespawn> MaNI: yes but that should be transparent, so set up company then supcontract the work out
[12:21] <mazal> l8tr everyone , enjoy the afternoon
[12:21] <Cryterion> bye
[12:26] <Private_User> brb need to reboot
[12:37] <barrydk> Good night everyone
[13:41] <magespawn> back later all
[14:09] <andrewlsd> cheers
[14:22] <Kilos> hmm... so much for needing to loadshed in peak times
[14:46] <MaNI> cut them some slack, nobody could possibly have predicted that we might have clouds at some point
[14:47] <Kilos> rofl
[15:14] <andrewlsd> lol
[15:14] <andrewlsd> night all.
[15:14] <Kilos> night andrewlsd
[15:14] * andrewlsd must go fill up the generator ahead of tonights power outage
[15:15] <andrewlsd> (that means feed the kids)
[15:15] <Kilos> sort a connection from home man
[15:15] <andrewlsd> (so that they have energy to pedal the dynamo generators)
[15:15] <Kilos> oh i saw something that they terminated shedding for the day
[15:15] <Kilos> lol
[15:16] <andrewlsd> two benefits. Electricity, and tired kids.
[15:16] <Kilos> yeah
[15:16] <andrewlsd> cheers all
[16:10] <Cryterion> grr, loadscheduling really being a problem today
[16:31] <Kilos> sucks
[16:32] <Kilos> inetpro ping
[16:33] <Kilos> me needs some info on where the external antenna for mobile connects to your router and with what plug and if the sim card is then inside the router or if you still use a modem
[17:41] <z3r009> sup
[17:44] <magespawn> good evening
[17:44] <Kilos> hi magespawn and z3r009
[17:44] <Kilos> z3r009 welcome to ubuntu-za
[17:46] <magespawn> hey Kilos, is lin a new face as well?
[17:46] <Kilos> yeah but been in africa channel a while now too
[17:46] <z3r009> am I a new face?
[17:47] <Kilos> he is from kenya
[17:47] <magespawn> cool beans, new peeps is a good thing
[17:47] <Kilos> ohi superfly
[17:48] <Kilos> z3r009 you tell us
[17:48] <z3r009> I'm not new though, i just haven't been on long for a long time.
[17:48] <Kilos> Maaz nickometer z3r009
[17:48] <Maaz> Kilos: z3r009 is 92.8% lame
[17:48] <Kilos> under what nick z3r009
[17:48] <magespawn> Maaz nickometer magespawn
[17:48] <z3r009> same nick
[17:48] <Maaz> magespawn: magespawn is 0.0% lame
[17:49] <magespawn> right
[17:49] <Kilos> wow i must have forgotten
[17:49] <magespawn> been a while then z3r009
[17:49] <Kilos> well then z3r009 welcome back
[17:49] <z3r009> but i was new when i was on back then... I remember you and magespawn though, always there.
[17:49] <magespawn> indeed
[17:49] <Kilos> haha
[17:49] <magespawn> cool beans
[17:51] <Kilos> z3r009 why did you stay away so long i forgot you?
[17:52] <magespawn> that might no actually be that long Kilos
[17:52] <Kilos> hahaha
[17:52] <magespawn> s/no/not
[17:52] <Kilos> ya i got too many peeps to try remember now
[17:53] <z3r009> i ran out of data, for months lol
[17:53] <Kilos> eish
[17:53] <Kilos> tough in africa
[17:53] <z3r009> dude, these prices..
[17:53] <Kilos> i know i use 3g
[17:55] <z3r009> vodacom?
[17:55] <Kilos> no voda sucks i use telkom mobile
[17:55] <Kilos> and their 2+1 promo
[17:55] <Kilos> R149
[17:56] <z3r009> whats the promo?
[17:56] <Kilos> i never get to use the +1 though, midnight is sleep time
[17:56] <magespawn> cell c has the 2 + 3 Gb for R99
[17:57] <Kilos> magespawn i can look at that but thats 3g i will lose
[17:57] <Kilos> hehe
[17:57] <z3r009> is this for the whole month? coz lately i just do the cellc gig a night when i need to get stuff.
[17:57] <magespawn> i have only just found out that is what i have been paying for the last year
[17:58] <Kilos> and i need to check the tower, last cellc used the voda tower here and after sis could not connect for 4 months she went telkom too
[17:58] <Kilos> the telkom promotion 2+1 is valid till the end of the following month
[17:59] <Kilos> so can be 2 months if you get it beginning of the month
[17:59] <magespawn> i think is one of their standard packages
[17:59] <magespawn> for cell c that is
[18:00] <MaNI> isn't afrihost 3g cheaper than telkom?
[18:01] <MaNI> never looked at it closely as using 3g is crazy, but got that idea somewhere :p
[18:01] <Kilos> afrihost and mtn are buddies i think
[18:02] <Kilos> and the mtn tower here is edge
[18:02] <z3r009> afrihost? i always thought that was just a webhosting company.
[18:02] <Kilos> took like 9 hours to upgrade a new install
[18:03] <z3r009> Lol edge was so fast when i was a kid, downloading those 300kb v360 games
[18:03] <Kilos> lol
[18:04] <Kilos> now im getting http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4425719435
[18:04] <Kilos> sometimes just over 5
[18:04] <Kilos> but have asked telkom to upgrade the tower to lte
[18:04] <magespawn> afrihost does mtn data with their own apn
[18:05] <magespawn> only month to month, and you can double the data for R99 extra
[18:05] <Kilos> i would need to get a new cellc sim mage
[18:05] <magespawn> good deal if have good mtn signal and if you take 3 GB or bigger
[18:05] <Kilos> maybe got one here still
[18:06] <magespawn> the cell c is 12 or 24 month contract
[18:06] <Kilos> nono no contract for me
[18:06] <magespawn> afrihost is month to month
[18:09] <magespawn> just watching a documentary on youtube about defcon
[18:10] <magespawn> i would really like to go there one year
[18:11] <inetpro> Kilos: one day when you have high speed LTE you will quickly regret asking for it
[18:11] <inetpro> stability with the speed you're getting already is much more important than speed
[18:11] <inetpro> oh and good evening everyone
[18:12] <Kilos> oh
[18:12] <magespawn> stable and fast would be the goal really
[18:12] <Kilos> is lte unstable then
[18:12] <magespawn> hi inetpro
[18:13] <magespawn> stable, fast and cheap
[18:13] <magespawn> since we are talking wish lists
[18:13] <Kilos> lol
[18:13] <z3r009> you can only take two, from stable, fast and cheap
[18:14] <Kilos> z3r009 you still studying hey?
[18:14] <magespawn> they usually list four qualities, distance being the fourth
[18:14] <inetpro> at 50mbps you would use more than 22GB in one hour
[18:14] <magespawn> indeed
[18:14] <magespawn> 50 mbps, still not really fast enough though
[18:15] <inetpro> ai!
[18:15] <magespawn> 150 now we talking
[18:15] <z3r009> yep @Kilos
[18:15] <Kilos> no man i dont do lotsa downloads or videos or youtube stuff
[18:16] <inetpro> Kilos: oh and pong
[18:16] <Kilos> z3r009 you can leave the @ out here
[18:16] <Kilos> you a twitter fan
[18:16] <z3r009> forgot how to irc.. haha, gonna /help now
[18:16] <Kilos> np thats why we here
[18:17] <z3r009> your messages are highlighted differently which leads me to believe that they are private... not sure though
[18:17] <Kilos> inetpro dont just pong man, answer whats under the ping
[18:17] <inetpro> oh
[18:17] <z3r009> the ones that start with my name anyways
[18:17] <Kilos> if you want private here you can do that too
[18:18] <inetpro> Kilos: HUAWEI B593s-601
[18:18] <Kilos> is the sim inside or with usb modem inetpro
[18:18] <z3r009> Kilos not really a twitter fan though. but the @ is convenient.
[18:19] <inetpro> Kilos: you slot the sim into the router
[18:19] <Kilos> twitter is a pain for me, but handy when you want quick reaction from telkom and tswane power peeps
[18:19] <inetpro> see: http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/575591-The-Huawei-B593-LTE-discussion-thread
[18:19] <Kilos> ah ty inetpro
[18:20] <Kilos> i want to mod a d-link router for ian to be able to use an external antenna
[18:21] <Kilos> only way how to so far is using an e220 modem that i can find where an external ant must connect
[18:26] <magespawn> z3r009: they are not private just highlighted to attract attention
[18:27] <magespawn> if we are talking about the same thing
[18:28] <captine> evening all
[18:29] <Kilos> hi captine
[18:31] <magespawn> are there anything like the american conventions in the rest of the world?
[18:31] <captine> magespawn, you mean like linux conventions
[18:31] <Kilos> whats that
[18:31] <Kilos> ya
[18:31] <magespawn> or defcon, etc? yes linux ones too
[18:31] <Kilos> they got funny name things
[18:32] <Kilos> ubucons i think it is
[18:32] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubucon
[18:33] <Kilos> and fly is organising a debcon or conf
[18:33] <magespawn> debian conf, in capt town next year i think
[18:33] <Kilos> ya that
[18:38] <magespawn> hey also got a new phone yesterday
[18:38] <z3r009> anyone ever been to the pycon?
[18:39] <magespawn> myabe superfly, do not know
[18:39] <captine> magespawn, am thinking of trying to get to CT
[18:39] <captine> although I am not a developer
[18:39] <captine> would still be keen to see it
[18:39] <magespawn> would be nice
[18:39] <magespawn> yup for sure
[18:45] <Kilos> cold wet place
[18:45] <Kilos> and the sea is only good for fish and penguins
[18:49] <z3r009> what happens at these conventions?
[18:50] <Kilos> z3r009 where are you?
[18:50] <captine> display lots of linux things.
[18:50] <Kilos> peeps are planning a SFD in ptown later this year
[18:50] <captine> tech, hardware etc. all vendors are normally there. Microsoft was at the last US North West linux convention with some pretty amazing things...
[18:50] <Kilos> SFD=software freedom day
[18:51] <z3r009> I'm near jhb
[18:51] <magespawn> www.defcon.org redirects to 127.0.0.1, what?
[18:51] <magespawn> colour me confused
[18:52] <captine> lol.
[18:52] <z3r009> reallY? can't click link, have 10mb or less, have to be very careful.
[18:52] <captine> definitely going to SFD this year
[18:52] <captine> was away last year
[18:52] <captine> but very keen to go this year
[18:52] <Kilos> magespawn i got https://www.defcon.org/
[18:52] <magespawn> really hope that i am up there there this year
[18:52] <magespawn> let me try that
[18:54] <Kilos> i just opened your link in chrome
[18:54] <Kilos> ill get like pro just now and tell you to use a decent browser
[18:54] <magespawn> if i ping defcon.org or www.defcon.org i get replies from 127.0.0.1, if i add the http or https then i get unknown host
[18:54] <magespawn> usingi firefox
[18:55] <Kilos> opens fine in opera as well
[18:55] <Kilos> i just click the link you give here and it opens
[18:56] <Kilos> inetpro try https://www.defcon.org/ in your fox please
[18:57] <magespawn> must be something here
[18:57] <magespawn> let me go look
[18:58] <magespawn> ping it for me and give me the ip address
[18:59] <magespawn> please
[18:59] <inetpro> uh
[18:59] <Kilos> unknown host https://www.defcon.org
[18:59] <Kilos> both of them
[18:59] <magespawn> my dns has been playing around all day
[19:00] <inetpro> magespawn: ping is not the answer to all your problems
[19:00] <Kilos> Maaz ping unknown host https://www.defcon.org
[19:00] <Maaz> Kilos: Excuse me?
[19:00] <Kilos> lol
[19:00] <Kilos> Maaz ping https://www.defcon.org
[19:00] <Maaz> Kilos: Error: unknown host https://www.defcon.org
[19:00] <Kilos> ya that dont work
[19:01] <magespawn> Maaz is defcon.org up
[19:02] <inetpro> the website is perfect on my side
[19:02] <magespawn> hmm, let me check dns settings in the router
[19:02] <inetpro> resolves to 162.222.171.206
[19:02] <inetpro> nslookup www.defcon.org
[19:03] <Kilos> QA> Yes, https://defcon.org/ is up
[19:03] <magespawn> i am getting some wierd results here
[19:03] <inetpro> dig +noall +answer www.defcon.org
[19:06] <Kilos> www.defcon.org. 2341285 IN A 162.222.171.206
[19:06] <magespawn> http://pasteboard.co/19igmQht.png
[19:06] <Kilos> oh my
[19:06] <Kilos> are you using win magespawn
[19:07] <magespawn> no on xubuntu here
[19:07] <Kilos> oh wow
[19:07] <magespawn> dns on the router is set to google
[19:07] <magespawn> veeeery odd
[19:08] <z3r009> i;m with inetpro, resolves to same addr and loads proper.
[19:09] <inetpro> magespawn: obviously you can't visit the site with it's IP address
[19:09] <magespawn> maybe afrihost doing something, somebody doing something
[19:09] <inetpro> it's a name based virtual host
[19:11] <Kilos> can a router interfere with one connecting to a site?
[19:11] <magespawn> what is? sorry not getting that, inetpro
[19:12] <magespawn> yes , well at least the dns in the router can
[19:12] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:12] <magespawn> going to reset it to the automatic ones provided by the isp
[19:12] <inetpro> magespawn: many sites out there are hosted on servers with one IP address
[19:13] <magespawn> ahh right yes
[19:13] <magespawn> brb
[19:14] <inetpro> magespawn: you could always try to browse a site through a translation service
[19:14] <inetpro> for example https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=en&tl=af&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.defcon.org
[19:15] <magespawn> just wierd that i cannot get to it straight up
[19:16] <magespawn> now using afrihost provided dns, and still nothing
[19:16] <inetpro> nothing!?
[19:16] <inetpro> magespawn: dig +noall +answer www.defcon.org
[19:17] <stickyboy> magespawn: Use these instead: http://www.privacyfoundation.ch/de/service/server.html
[19:17] <stickyboy> Fuck Google.
[19:17] <Kilos> eish stickyboy
[19:17] <Kilos> you shocking our ladies
[19:18] <magespawn> www.defcon.org.86205INA127.0.0.1
[19:18] <z3r009> there are no girls on the internet
[19:18] <Kilos> oh yes
[19:18] <magespawn> why 127.0.0.1?
[19:18] <Kilos> we dont swear here
[19:19] <stickyboy> Life is too short to mince words.
[19:19] <stickyboy> It's like sugars in the food pyramid... use sparingly. ;)
[19:19] <inetpro> magespawn: what DNS server?
[19:20] <Kilos> hehe, you well stickyboy you been quiet
[19:20] <z3r009> the food pyramid lol.
[19:20] <magespawn> 196.7.7.7 and 196.7.8.9
[19:21] <inetpro> magespawn: well there is your problem
[19:21] <magespawn> ?
[19:22] <inetpro> who's DNS servers are those?
[19:22] <magespawn> afrihost
[19:22] <inetpro> dig @196.7.8.9 +noall +answer www.defcon.org
[19:23] <inetpro> that ^^ also gives me 127.0.0.1
[19:23] * inetpro suggests contacting afrihost
[19:23] <Kilos> z3r009 see why i mix with these guys
[19:23] <Kilos> so i can smell clever
[19:24] <inetpro> Kilos: sshhh
[19:24] * Kilos goes to the corner
[19:24] <inetpro> it's just DNS
[19:24] <inetpro> no need to be a rocket scientist
[19:25] <magespawn> why would they be stopping that though?
[19:25] * z3r009 takes notes.
[19:25] <inetpro> magespawn: ask them
[19:26] <magespawn> hmm, that is annoying though
[19:27] <inetpro> talk to @gianvisser
[19:28] <magespawn> it was also happening when i set it to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[19:31] <z3r009> that's my queue, I'm out, peace.
[19:31] <magespawn> late z3r009
[19:31] <magespawn> later too
[19:33] <magespawn> going up to my room, might get disconnected
[19:35] <stickyboy> Kilos: Yeah, I'm good.
[19:35] <stickyboy> About to make some hot chocolate.
[19:35] <stickyboy> I'm currently on a 38-day GitHub streak... https://github.com/alanorth/
[19:35] <stickyboy> Hacking all teh things...
[19:40] <Kilos> lol
[19:41] <Kilos> hi gremble
[19:41] <gremble> Hey Kilos
[19:41] <gremble> How are you?
[19:41] <Kilos> ok ty and you?
[19:41] <Kilos> you did exams yet?
[19:42] <gremble> I am well thank you
[19:42] <gremble> Yes. Wrote one today
[19:42] <gremble> Last one on wednesday
[19:42] <Kilos> and?
[19:42] <Kilos> whew hope all goes well man
[19:42] <Kilos> good luck
[19:47] <gremble> Thanks
[19:47] <gremble> Today's one was hard
[19:47] <gremble> I did not start studying early enough
[19:47] <Kilos> eish
[19:47] <gremble> Sometimes my other interests trip me up when it comes to these sort of things
[19:48] <Kilos> wb magespawn
[19:48] <magespawn> ty
[19:50] <magespawn> in case you missed that, my windows laptop gets there fine
[19:50] <Kilos> lol
[19:50] <Kilos> throught the same router?
[19:50] <Kilos> through
[19:50] <magespawn> ypu
[19:50] <magespawn> yup
[19:50] <Kilos> theres the prob
[19:51] <Kilos> win corrupted the router
[19:52] <gremble> Lol
[19:52] <gremble> If only it were that easy
[19:52] <Kilos> haha
[19:52] <gremble> It is probably something odd that win handles magically
[19:52] <magespawn> okay, but what?
[19:56] <Kilos> not something in nm
[19:56] <gremble> I have no idea :P That is for you to find out haha. I know nothing about networking :P
[19:56] <Kilos> magespawn is it only that site
[19:58] <inetpro> ai!
[20:00] <inetpro> the publicly accessible DNS servers at 196.7.7.7 as well at 196.7.8.9 return the address 127.0.0.1 for the hostname www.defcon.org
[20:01] <inetpro> in a case where your infrastructure uses those as DNS servers you will never reach www.defcon.org
[20:01] <inetpro> end of story
[20:01] <inetpro> ai!
[20:02] <inetpro> magespawn: you just missed what I wrote
[20:02] <inetpro> 06/11 22:00:32 <inetpro> the publicly accessible DNS servers at 196.7.7.7 as well at 196.7.8.9 return the address 127.0.0.1 for the hostname www.defcon.org
[20:02] <inetpro> 06/11 22:01:09 <inetpro> in a case where your infrastructure uses those as DNS servers you will never reach www.defcon.org
[20:02] <inetpro> 06/11 22:01:13 <inetpro> end of story
[20:02] <Kilos> lol
[20:03] * inetpro suggests contacting afrihost
[20:05] <gremble> That is strange.
[20:05] <gremble> haha
[20:08] <magespawn> hmm indeed thw windows machine has google dns set on itself, so not using the router dns
[20:08] <gremble> So you are being thwarted by your routers DNS?
[20:08] <gremble> That is pretty bizarre. What make is it?
[20:08] <magespawn> but interesting that even if i change the dns on the router, it still not allow me on to the site
[20:09] <magespawn> let me try something else
[20:11] <gremble> Today I got offered a job as a choreographer for strippers. I'm not sure what to make of it
[20:11] <superfly> inetpro: it's probably a hack
[20:11] <gremble> I thought they just undressed
[20:11] <superfly> "hack" as in, they specifically made it use 127.0.0.1
[20:12] <inetpro> superfly: true
[20:12] <inetpro> they will probably have a good reason for it
[20:13] <superfly> http://bin.snyman.info/977gq
[20:14] <superfly> my guess is a transparent proxy
[20:15] <stickyboy> inetpro: Is that some sort of DNS filtering done by the ISP?
[20:15] <stickyboy> I know some organizations do it.
[20:15] <stickyboy> Anways, just add the proper IP to /etc/hosts: 162.222.171.206 defcon.org www.defcon.org
[20:15] <stickyboy> :P
[20:15] <stickyboy> Fuck the DNS.
[20:16] <magespawn> back again
[20:16] <inetpro> and he just missed another good workaround
[20:16] <magespawn> repeat please?
[20:16] <inetpro> magespawn: 06/11 22:15:40 <stickyboy> Anways, just add the proper IP to /etc/hosts: 162.222.171.206 defcon.org www.defcon.org
[20:16] <magespawn> yup just done did that
[20:17] <inetpro> afrihost probably want you to use their proxy server
[20:17] <magespawn> but how dare they decide what i may and may not see?
[20:19] <magespawn> most people would think the problem lies elsewhere rather than with the isp
[20:20] <inetpro> most people probably will never visit the defcon site
[20:21] <magespawn> i was seriously starting to think my mind had taken a walk somewhere without me
[20:21] <magespawn> maybe, this way they do not even have the choice, you only need the illusion of freedom
[20:21] <inetpro> maybe it is just a very innocent mistake
[20:21] <magespawn> hmm
[20:23] <magespawn> i'll give them a call in the morning and find out if i can
[20:29] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:29] <Kilos> ty inetpro
[20:29] <inetpro> Kilos: for?
[20:29] <inetpro> hmm...
[20:29] <inetpro> wb smile
[20:30] <smile> Bedankt
[20:30] <smile> :)
[20:30] <magespawn> hi smile
[20:30] <smile> Hoi! :)
[20:30] <magespawn> that is my cue, good night all
[20:30] <stickyboy> Man, Internet in South Africa is terrible...
[20:31] <stickyboy> You guys suffer. :(
[20:31] <smile> Stolen, o no
[20:31] <smile> Thats probably why they enjoy irc. :)
[20:34] <stickyboy> smile: True. It's hard to mess up IRC. :P
[20:34] <smile> Unstable connections can cause trouble though :-P
[20:49] <stickyboy> Anyone got any job openings in SA? :P
[20:50] <gremble> Even with our terrible internet?
[20:52] <smile> In telecom maybe, lol
[20:52] <smile> :-D
[21:00] <stickyboy> True.
[21:00] <stickyboy> Guess I'll stay in Kenya. :P
[21:02] <smile> :-O
[21:02] <smile> Belgium is better
[21:02] <smile> Far cooler climate
[21:03] <smile> With a lot of rain
[21:04] <smile> Stable internet connection. 8-) most of the time
[21:04] <stickyboy> smile: :P
[21:04] <stickyboy> Belgium sounds cool.
[21:04] <stickyboy> I've only been to NL a few times.
[21:05] <smile> Belgium is more chaotic but its a nice place to spend your life :-P
[21:05] <gremble> is SOAP as a thing deprecated or something?
[21:06] <smile> Not sure
[21:08] <superfly> "SOAP" is the phrase that is mentioned just before the developer groans loadly
[21:10] <gremble> It seems that way
[21:10] <gremble> It is like XML had a bastard baby
[21:10] <gremble> Well, what message looks like
[21:11] <gremble> I am trying to find an existing library to replace SOAPy in ibid
[21:11] <stickyboy> Just applied for a job in Munich.
[21:11] <stickyboy> And two in New York.
[21:11] <gremble> Nice
[21:11] <gremble> :o
[21:12] <stickyboy> I need to be around research...
[21:12] <stickyboy> Physics, Biology... academia. Yessss.
[21:12] <gremble> :P
[21:18] <gremble> "Multi-protocol chat framework" nowhere does it specify actually which protocols these are
[21:18] <gremble> For all we know they use smoke signals and set your CPU on fire
[21:18] <smile> Lol
[21:18] <smile> With zeros and ones
[21:29] <gremble> I need to teach vim to recognise different source files and handle tabs and spaces appropriately
[21:34] <smile> Use geany
[21:34] <smile> :-P
[21:36] <gremble> I always feel lost in editors where I have to use my arrows to navigate
[21:37] <gremble> Even worse when I have to use the touch pad on this laptop
[21:38] <smile> Why not an external mouse
[21:39] <gremble> Because I only have so much deskspace
[21:39] <gremble> I am one of those people with the towers of books and papers everywhere
[21:40] <gremble> I got a wireless mouse for my desktop because there just isn't space for things attached to wires
[21:40] <smile> Lol
[21:42] <gremble> I even put another bookshelf in my room, to no avail
[21:43] <gremble> Nice non-seqitur on my part -> There is no space on my desk, therefore I use vim
[21:44] <smile> Yeah
[21:47] <smile> "My disk is full on my laptop. Therefore I use my desktop"
[21:47] <smile> @ gremble
[21:48] <gremble> :P
[21:49] <gremble> That probably makes more sense
[21:49] <gremble> xD
[21:51] <smile> It doesnt. You can empty the trash bin for instance
[21:51] <smile> :-D
[21:52] <gremble> There is a trashbin?
[21:52] <gremble> I just rm :P
[21:54] <gremble> The fact that I am installing python libraries and they're all compiling to C is entertaining
[21:55] <smile> Lol
[21:55] <gremble> I am rather easily entertained, yes
[21:55] <gremble> :P
[22:08] <smile> Slaapwel :)
[22:08] <gremble> Jy ook
[22:08] <smile> Dank :)
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2015-06-11-#kubuntu-devel
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[02:39] <ahoneybun> hello all
[03:52] <Riddell> hi ahoneybun
[03:52] <ahoneybun> hey Riddell
[03:53] * ahoneybun goes to the bathroom
[03:55] <ahoneybun> how are you Riddell?
[03:57] <Riddell> mostly awesome, this interesting but maddening project we're working on is starting to come together
[03:58] <ahoneybun> but do we have everyone behind it?
[04:05] <Riddell> it's unrelated to anything that's public yet
[04:58] <Mirv> Riddell: if you need any of the failing autopkgtests to be rerun, I can do that, but that's probably all I can about helping them :( there's just a qtbase update also in proposed, and I'd like to land 5.4.2 too
[07:32] <vip> hi ho
[07:32] <vip> any news about bluetooth widget/tray?
[07:33] <vip> I almost hate about manual connecting to address
[08:09] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:11] <vip> hi ho lordievader
[08:13] <lordievader> Hey vip, how are you doing?
[08:15] <vip> lordievader: fine, thanks, you?
[08:18] <lordievader> Doing good, fixed a few server issues.
[08:44] <yossarianuk> Has there been any progress with the entire 'please sack your 'leader'' incident ?
[10:03] <clivejo> Ive lost my wallpaper and taskbar on wily again :(
[12:36] <mparillo> Is it too early to test kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade for Wily Alpha 1?
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Hello all
[16:00] <mparillo> Does anybody know the launchpad component for the release upgrader? It seems as if it does not start when trying to upgrade Vivid to Wily. I get as far as my last screen shot (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WilyUpgrades/Kubuntu) and something flashes something briefly about two downloads but then nothing seems to happen.
[16:57] <Riddell> mparillo: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader
[16:57] <Riddell> mparillo: logs probably in /var/log somewhere
[19:36] <clivejo> weird, my desktop has decided to come back
[19:39] <ovidiu-florin> hello world
[19:40] <ovidiu-florin> how do you guys back up you GPG keys?
[19:43] <clivejo> I use LastPass :/
[19:44] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: for GPG keys? public and private?
[19:45] <clivejo> just priavte
[19:45] <clivejo> private
[19:47] <clivejo> you can attach the file
[19:50] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: isn't LastPass proprietary?
[19:50] <clivejo> yeah :/
[19:51] <clivejo> but saves me so much time
[19:52] <clivejo> the plugin allows me to autofill username and passwords to websites
[19:53] <vip> I don't store gpg in lastpass, but I would also recommend it as password manager
[19:53] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: you should implement something simular for Kubuntu
[19:54] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: please elaborate
[19:55] <clivejo> well it stores an encrpyted blob on the Lastpass server
[19:55] <clivejo> thats basically what I pay them for
[19:56] <clivejo> if there was a nice little app for kubuntu that could do the same thing, but with more features ie plugin for konsole, ftp clients etc
[19:59] <clivejo> I like the andriod app as it registers my finger print and unlocks via that
[20:36] <Gamayun> ovidiu-florin: An encrypted filesystem or two for use with an airgap ;)
[20:37] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: the maintainer of KWallet wanted to do something like that
[20:38] <ovidiu-florin> but he got stopped
[20:38] <clivejo> why?
[20:38] <ovidiu-florin> on the grounds that: "there are more important things to be done"
[20:38] <ovidiu-florin> when the KF5 started to exist
[20:38] <clivejo> such as?
[20:38] <ovidiu-florin> separate KDElibs into KF5
[20:47] <Gamayun> 0.0 -- people using binary-only proprietary software/services to sync passwords...
[21:59] <clivejo> now to I find a list of dep's without having to do it trial and error?
[22:15] <shaderslayer> ScottK: poke
[22:22] <Riddell> clivejo: there is no way
[22:22] <Riddell> packaging just needs some detective work
[22:22] <Riddell> you can read the cmake files and work out what it'll look for and use packages.ubuntu.com to see what the package names are for them
[22:28] <clivejo> kamoso is driving me insane
[22:29] <clivejo> Riddell: have you time to watch me on EC?
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-br
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[00:29] <Democradir> barna: boa noite
[00:29] <Democradir> Consegui acessar o pendrive e já comecei a instalação do Ubuntu
[00:30] <Democradir> mas emperrei naquela fase do tipo de instalação
[00:31] <astroo-> ...
[00:31] <Democradir> boa noite
[00:32] <CyL> Democradir: Qual a dúvida?
[00:32] <Democradir> na fase em que deixo o ubuntu fazer automaticamente ou eu escolho a partição
[00:32] <Democradir> escolho a partição manual
[00:32] <Democradir> mas ele não deixa porque diz que preciso deixar 1mb para boot
[00:34] <CyL> Democradir: Tem outro sistema instalado no computador?
[00:34] <CyL> *que queira manter
[00:34] <Democradir> Cyl: sim, quero dual boot
[00:34] <Democradir> com windows
[00:34] <CyL> Democradir: Qual windows?
[00:34] <Democradir> 8.1
[00:35] <Democradir> não aparecia espaço livre, daí fui lá e liberei 200gb
[00:35] <CyL> Democradir: O windows 8.1 já cria sua própria partição de boot
[00:35] <CyL> Democradir: Vc deve utilizar a mesma partição de boot utilizada pelo Widnows 8.1
[00:35] <Democradir> então, pois é, mas quando coloco para criar a partição dá certo
[00:36] <Democradir> daí quando clico pra instalar
[00:36] <Democradir> ele diz que precisa de espaço para boot 1mb
[00:37] <CyL> Democradir: VC viu que deve utilizar a mesma partição criada pelo windows 8.1?
[00:37] <Democradir> mas como sei qual é?
[00:38] <Democradir> aparecem 6 partições
[00:38] <CyL> Democradir: depende da sua instalação do windows, não sei dizer com certeza.
[00:38] <CyL> Democradir: Notebook com partições de recuperação?
[00:38] <Democradir> não tenho que selecionar a partição de espaço livre?
[00:38] <Democradir> tem
[00:39] <Democradir> partição de recuperação
[00:39] <Democradir> duas
[00:39] <CyL> Democradir: vc tem que reduzir uma das partições para criar espaço em disco não particionado
[00:39] <Democradir> de 15gb
[00:39] <barna> Democradir, opa opa, chegando, lendo msgs anteriores.
[00:39] <Democradir> mas já criei 200gb
[00:39] <CyL> Democradir: além disso, vc tem que indicar ao instalador qual sua partição de boot uefi
[00:40] <CyL> Democradir: Nunca instalei com um setup como o seu, sugiro procurar por um tutorial na internet, desculpe.
[00:41] <Democradir> obrigado
[00:42] <Democradir> barna: cara, isso parece um parto
[00:43] <Democradir> tive até que brigar com o pessoal da Acer para mostrarem como mudava a BIOS
[00:43] <Democradir> mas mostraram
[00:43] <Democradir> agora não sai dessa partição
[00:48] <Democradir> Vou sair, daqui a pouco retorno.
[01:07] <gilzao> #ubuntu
[01:07] <CyL> gilzao: ?
[01:08] <gilzao> isso
[01:08] <CyL> gilzao: ok
[01:08] <gilzao> de onde vc é?
[01:08] <gilzao> relembrando os velhos tempos
[01:55] <lagreca> Boa noite, pessoal. Tenho um problema com o brilho da tela no laptop usando xubuntu 14.04.2. Quando eu uso as teclas fn para reduzir o brilho e deixo o pc mt tempo sem uso, ao voltar e tentar restabelecer o brilho usando fn novamente, não tem efeito nenhum. Ou seja, a tela escurece e depois de algum tempo não fica acesa novamente.
[01:55] <lagreca> Como corrigir isso?
[01:55] <lagreca> Obrigado.
[01:56] <astroo-> ola
[02:07] <Daekdroom> lagreca, você sabe se a tela fica bloqueada após esse tempo de uso? e sabe se é possível mudar o brilho enquanto a tela está bloqueada?
[02:43] <lagreca> Daekdroom, fn brilho nao funciona com a tela bloqueada. E o problema de permanecer escuro ocorre sem bloqueio msm.
[02:51] <edsoncanto> aloha!
[02:54] <astroo-> ola
[03:15] <Democradir> barna - presente ainda?
[03:15] <Democradir> astroo - ?
[03:16] <Democradir> instalei o ubuntu, mas quando pediu pra reiniciar nao consegui
[03:17] <astroo-> nao sei mais
[03:17] <astroo-> a esta hora ja nao vai facil ter ajuda
[03:18] <Democradir> ok, volto amanha
[03:18] <Democradir> valew
[03:18] <Democradir> boa noite
[03:33] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[06:01] <EllieGoulding> oi
[09:09] <DarioUB> Olá,estou tentando instalar o ubuntu 14.10 usando o virtualbox,tenho o windows 8.1.Na hora de rodar o unbuntu no virtualbox aparece o seguinte erro "This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU. Unable to boot - plese use a kernel appropriate for you CPU" alguem pode me ajudar ?
[09:11] <EllieGoulding> DarioUB, você precisa selecione "Ubuntu 64-bit" no virtualbox
[09:11] <DarioUB> Não aparece
[09:12] <DarioUB> Só aparece opções 32bits
[09:14] <EllieGoulding> o que é teu cpu?
[09:14] <EllieGoulding> me desculpa, português nâo é minha premiera idioma
[09:15] <barna> EllieGoulding, provavelmente seu computador não aceita virtualização de 64bits.
[09:15] <DarioUB> Certo!
[09:15] <barna> desculpe respondi pra pessoa errada,
[09:15] <barna> DarioUB, baixa a versão 32bits
[09:16] <EllieGoulding> barna, ah, problamente
[09:16] <DarioUB> Sistema operacional de 64bits, processador com base em x64
[09:16] <EllieGoulding> O cpu precisa vt-x
[09:17] <DarioUB> Ta certo!vou tentar aqui!vou deixar baixando aqui!qualquer coisa volto =D!Obrigado
[11:20] <denisbr> Bom dia!
[11:45] <herlan> hggdh: vamos continuar de onde paramos ?
[12:37] <Democradir> Bom dia!
[12:37] <Democradir> Algu[em disposto a auxiliar?
[12:38] <rafael> Bom dia
[12:38] <rafael> Relate seu problema e espere uma resposta.
[12:38] <Democradir> Acabei de instalar o ubuntu, mas estou com problemas na hora do boot.
[12:39] <Democradir> Completei a instalacao e o programa solicitou a reinicilizacao, apos a instalaca, entao cliquei pra reinicializar e comecou os problemas
[12:40] <Democradir> tive que conectar o pendrive bootavel novamente, como se fosse instalar o ubuntu novamente, ai fui ate a fase em que pede para escolher o tipo de instalacao e la avisava que o computador ja tem o ubuntu instalado
[12:41] <Democradir> entao sai da instalacao e consegui acessar o ubuntu, mas parece que nao conseguir fazer o dual boot, que era minha intencao
[13:33] <mirqui> bom dia :)
[14:08] <LokUB> Olá,uso windows 8.1 e estou instalando o ubuntu no virtualbox,no momento da instação posso escolher "Apagar disco e reinstalar o ubuntu" sem perder o windows neh?
[14:09] <Elfon> se for no virtualbox sim
[14:27] <rafael> LokUB: a máquina virtual criará um disco virtual
[14:28] <LokUB> Certo,obrigado!estou instalando,qualquer coisa retorno aqui =D
[16:13] <LokUB> Depois de instalado fica só na tela roxa no virtual,tenho que reiniciar ?
[16:19] <LokUB> Nossa ficou muito lento =X..ainda bem que é só pra ter uma noção basica pra estudar pra concurso..
[16:31] <Elfon> LokUB: verifica quanto vc colocou de RAM
[16:38] <LokUB> 2048
[16:40] <LokUB> Será que tem alguma coisa haver ter instalado a versão 32bits?
[16:44] <hackeboy> comp year wifi no lubuntu sendo que baseado no ubuntu
[16:54] <Batista99> boa tarde a todos
[16:57] <denisbr> Batista99: olá
[16:58] <Batista99> to meio perdido aqui
[17:01] <Batista99> denisbr vc sabe comno faço para instalar o vídeo no netbook asus
[17:07] <denisbr> Batista99: não sei não :(
[17:07] <Batista99> grato :)
[17:08] <andretyn> Batista99, como video, não tah rolando, etc...
[17:09] <Batista99> Andreytyn bom está funcionando, mas com uma resolução menor qdo uso o net....mas qdo ligo outro monitor num funciona
[17:10] <Batista99> digo no monitor externo funciona perfeitamente, mas o monitor embutido não rola
[17:10] <andretyn> versão do ubuntu?
[17:11] <Batista99> 14 acho
[17:11] <Batista99> sei q atualizei esses dias, faz tempo q não usava
[17:12] <andretyn> Batista99, já tentou a configuração "monitores"?
[17:13] <Batista99> ah sim
[17:14] <andretyn> Batista99, tambem tem que o monitor tem uma resolução e o video tem outra, e não tem como extrapolar essa config
[17:14] <Batista99> a resolução fica 1024 x 600 no monitor do net
[17:14] <andretyn> net=netbook?
[17:15] <Batista99> isso
[17:15] <andretyn> e o video?
[17:15] <Batista99> mas o monitor externo funciona normal
[17:16] <andretyn> netbook sempre é mais fraco que qualquer coisa!!
[17:18] <andretyn> Batista99, se no configuração do monitor aparece o maximo de resolução, isto é, o 1024x800, vai dar para colocar somente isso no netbook!
[17:19] <andretyn> no monitor externo é a resolução que o monitor consegue chegar!! Vc entendeu?
[17:19] <Batista99> 1024 x 600... não aparece 1024 x 800
[17:21] <andretyn> Batista99, então é essa a resolução maxima que o net pode chegar! Isso depende do monitor!
[17:21] <Batista99> mas no windows não tenho essa restrição
[17:22] <Batista99> exemplo o navegador não aparece totalmente
[17:22] <andretyn> Batista99, qual a resolução que o windows tinha nesse netbook?
[17:25] <andretyn> Batista99, qual o tipo de netbook, marca, etc... pf?
[17:28] <andretyn> para registro, depende do netbook asus, a resolução maxima para o monitor do mesmo é de 1024x600!!!
[17:46] <Henry_> Boa tarde, a Paz de Jesus Cristo esteja com vocês! Amém!
[17:46] <mirqui> boa tarde :)
[17:47] <mirqui> amém :)
[17:47] <Henry_> Estou começando migrar para Linux, preciso saber algumas coisas antes.
[17:47] <mirqui> fala , tbm sou novo no linux
[17:47] <Henry_> Baixei e instalei Ubuntu 14.10 e já está atualizando para 15.04 é necessário?
[17:48] <Henry_> Posso usar uma versão mais antinga, exemplo 9.10?
[17:48] <mirqui> eu uso a 14.04 , muito boa
[17:48] <mirqui> eu uso a 32bits
[17:49] <Henry_> Vi uma barra lateral esquerda e descobri que chama lançador, tem como desativá-la/removê-la?
[17:49] <mirqui> mas já usei a 64 , mas não notei diferença
[17:49] <mirqui> tem como ocultar
[17:49] <mirqui> vai em configurações ,
[17:50] <mirqui> aparencias
[17:50] <Henry_> Já vi como oculta, foi até simples achar nas configurações, mas penso melhor desativar ou remover.
[17:50] <mirqui> na segunda aba
[17:50] <mirqui> não é possivel
[17:50] <mirqui> se vc gosta de docks , tem o cairo dock
[17:51] <mirqui> ai é todos osprogramas no dock tipo mac os
[17:51] <Henry_> Já usei algumas vezes a versão 10.04 para iniciar o computador pelo CD somente para fazer backup do HD que não partia o outro sistema, a parte gráfica dele é mais amigavel.
[17:52] <mirqui> o unity , o lançador tbm é muito amigável
[17:53] <mirqui> eu tinha a mania de botar icones no desktop , mas te digo , é só costume
[17:53] <mirqui> fica um tempo com o unity que vc se acostuma
[17:54] <mirqui> vc já usei o mint ?
[17:54] <Henry_> Pela primeira impressão não, quando usei a versão 10.04 tudo fluia como se estevesse me passando um vídeo explicativo, nesta versão com este unity/lançador não consigo fazer nada, tudo parece tão estranho, difícil
[17:54] <mirqui> ??
[17:55] <mirqui> bom , o lançador é , tem um programa , põe no lançador e executa
[17:55] <Henry_> Não como eu disse só dava boot pelo CD Ubuntu 9.4 ou 10.04 para fazer backup de HDs que não inicializava, hoje é meu primeiro uso, são apenas algumas horas. Não sei nada.
[17:56] <mirqui> qual sua dificuldade ?
[17:56] <CyL> Henry_: Existe o Ubuntu Mate agora, mesma interface dessas versões, baseadas no Gnome 2
[17:56] <mirqui> ahaha calma , tudo a seu tempo :)
[17:56] <CyL> Henry_: https://ubuntu-mate.org/
[17:57] <mirqui> sim , o cyl tbmm tem uma resposta a seus problemas
[17:57] <mirqui> mas vc já usou o linux mint ?
[17:58] <mirqui> tão bom quanto o ubuntu
[17:58] <mirqui> e customizavel como o windows
[17:58] <Henry_> Entendi, vou verificar, é que hoje li algumas matérias para ver se faço a migração e muito se falava deste Gnome, embora não entendi muito, mas parece que Unity veio substituir, é isto?
[17:59] <mirqui> quanto a isso não sei te dizer
[17:59] <CyL> Henry_: Sim, mas o Ubuntu Mate é justamente um Ubuntu sem Unity, com um "sucessor" do Gnome
[17:59] <mirqui> só sei baixar a iso , instalar e usar :)
[18:00] <Henry_> Não mirqui, nunca usei outro sistema senão o Windows, trabalho com eles desde o DOS, Win 3.11, e assim até o Win 8.1, agora que irei/preciso dar inicio para Linux
[18:01] <mirqui> eu tbm numca usei
[18:01] <mirqui> ai fiquei de cara com o windows , era numa base de 200 reais a cada 6 meses indo ao conserto
[18:02] <mirqui> o primeiro que tentei foi o linux mint
[18:02] <mirqui> bem parecido com o windows
[18:02] <mirqui> ai um dia testei o ubuntu
[18:03] <mirqui> gostei , não sei te dizer o porque
[18:03] <mirqui> mas sempre uso o ubuntu ou o mint
[18:03] <Henry_> Então, eu nunca tive problema algum, muito pelo contrário, mas preços sim vem me afetanto. Tempos de seca, entende...
[18:03] <mirqui> ahaha compreendo
[18:04] <CyL> Henry_: Vc está migrando para o Linux por questões de economia?
[18:04] <mirqui> foi o meu caso 200 reais a cada 6 meses
[18:04] <mirqui> podia usar o dinheiro para outra coisa
[18:05] <Henry_> Sim CyL
[18:05] <mirqui> o ubuntu ou o mint eu mesmo instalo
[18:05] <CyL> Henry_: Qual a versão do Windows atualmente instalada em seu computador?
[18:05] <CyL> mirqui: Vc consegue instalar o Ubuntu ou o Mint mas não consegue instalar o Windows?!
[18:06] <mirqui> e já perdi a conta de quantas vezes já instalei e desistalei
[18:06] <mirqui> ahahah não tinha um windows do caribe cara
[18:06] <Henry_> Trabalho em uma Obra Social sem fins lucrativos, não temos verbas próprias, somente doações e públicas, mas que são todas direcionadas ao atendimento, não cobrem equipamentos e mão de obra/funcionários.
[18:06] <mirqui> era assisténcia tec. na veia
[18:07] <mirqui> então , o linux é livre
[18:07] <mirqui> olhasó
[18:07] <mirqui> licença windows
[18:07] <mirqui> licença office
[18:08] <mirqui> antivirus
[18:08] <CyL> Henry_: É, neste caso, o Linux é uma boa saída, já que vai instalar em diversos computadores. O ubuntu também facilita o gerenciamento de vários computadores ao mesmo tempo
[18:08] <mirqui> é um bom dinheiro ou não ?
[18:08] <CyL> mirqui: Mas dependendo do que a pessoa fizer, o Windows acaba sendo mais indicado.
[18:09] <mirqui> vcs trabahão em engenharia ?
[18:09] <mirqui> trabalham
[18:09] <mirqui> é um dos ramos restritos
[18:10] <Henry_> Então CyL, preciso conhecer/aprender o funcionamento, pois depois terei que passar para os demais funcionários, mas se eu já estou tendo dificuldades só na tela desktop do Ubuntu, não consigo nem remover/desativar a barra lateral esquerda, quem dirá os demais funcionários.
[18:10] <mirqui> o resto tem programas alternativos
[18:11] <CyL> mirqui: Eu não, mas não é somente em engenharia, há muitos exemplos disso. Ser a favor do Linux não é ser contra o Windows na minha opinião.
[18:11] <mirqui> no que vcs trabalham ?
[18:11] <CyL> Henry_: Qual a experiência anterior do seu público alvo?
[18:11] <CyL> mirqui: gerência de projetos e desenvolvimento e integração de sistemas
[18:12] <CyL> Henry_: Eles possuem experiência com Windows?
[18:12] <mirqui> t.i ?
[18:12] <Henry_> Como disse trabalho em uma Obra Social sem fins lucrativos, nosso público alvo são crianças carentes de 06 à 17anos.
[18:12] <CyL> mirqui: TI também
[18:12] <mirqui> ai tem níveis
[18:12] <CyL> Henry_: Se eles não possuem qualquer experiência com computadores, não vai fazer muita diferença qual Ubuntu vc escolha
[18:13] <CyL> Henry_: Se já tiveram contato com Windows, sugiro utilizar um Ubuntu com uma interface mais parecida, como o Mate
[18:13] <mirqui> crianças de 6 a 17 anos não trabalam com níveis restritivos
[18:13] <mirqui> eles trabalham com desktops somentes
[18:13] <CyL> Henry_: Como o mirqui disse, existe o Mint também, mas acho que o Ubuntu Mate vai lhe servir melhor
[18:13] <mirqui> um pacote office
[18:14] <Henry_> Sim, mas eu precisarei ter alguma intimidade, facilidade, assimilar bem com o Windows para melhor instruir.
[18:14] <CyL> Henry_: Existe o Xubuntu também, que é mais maduro que o Mate, mais fácil de customizar, e é menos radicalmente diferente do que o Windows
[18:15] <CyL> *do que o Unity em relação ao Windows
[18:15] <mirqui> dá uma olhada no linux mint
[18:15] <mirqui> o unity é só o dock do mac na bara lateral
[18:15] <mirqui> barra
[18:17] <Henry_> Sim, vou ler sobre o Mint, Xubuntu e ao Mate, agradeço desde já, tenham uma maravilhosa, Santa e Abençoada semana. Deus os Abençoe e os Guarde! Amém!
[18:18] <mirqui> fique com deus , até :)
[18:20] <CyL> Tchau
[19:29] <jonathan21> .
[19:34] <EllieGoulding> bom dia :)
[19:37] <mirqui> blza :)
[21:04] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[21:04] <CyL> boa noite
[21:05] <astroo-> ola
[21:09] <EllieGoulding> ola astroo-
[21:09] <astroo-> ola
[21:09] <EllieGoulding> tudo bem?
[21:11] <astroo-> tudo e tu?
[21:14] <EllieGoulding> sou bom
[21:14] <EllieGoulding> :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-locoteams
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[07:08] <Kilos> morning peeps
[07:32] <MooDoo> morning
[07:33] <Kilos> hi MooDoo :)
[08:40] <elacheche> salam MooDoo :)
[08:44] <MooDoo> wa-Alaykum elacheche
[08:44] <Kilos> whew
[08:44] <MooDoo> whew?
[08:44] <Kilos> you also eat dates?
[08:45] <MooDoo> dates?
[08:45] <Kilos> elacheche lives on dates and camel milk
[08:45] * Kilos hides
[08:45] <Kilos> MooDoo where are you?
[08:45] <MooDoo> ah no i don't eat dates lol i just knew what salam meant but wasn't hundred percent sure of the correct response lol
[08:45] <MooDoo> Kilos: UK
[08:46] <Kilos> lol
[08:46] <Kilos> i always tease him
[08:46] <MooDoo> heh
[08:46] <Kilos> dholbach late today
[08:49] <elacheche> MooDoo, You're not the guy from Sudan?
[08:52] <MooDoo> elacheche: no sorry, nottingham uk :D
[08:55] <elacheche> Oups, sorry MooDoo x(
[08:56] <MooDoo> elacheche: not a problem :D I hope the responce was correct any way :D
[09:00] <elacheche> yep
[09:02] <MooDoo> :D yay
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-desktop
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[05:39] <didrocks> good morning
[05:50] <pitti> bonjour didrocks !
[06:58] <larsu> bonjour #desktop!
[06:58] <seb128> hey larsu & desktopers
[06:59] <didrocks> re larsu, seb128
[07:01] <pitti> bonjour seb128 et larsu
[07:01] <pitti> comment allez-vous ?
[07:01] <seb128> hey pitti
[07:01] <seb128> ça va bien !
[07:01] <seb128> et toi ?
[07:02] <larsu> hi didrocks, pitti, and seb128!
[07:02] <pitti> seb128: moi aussi ! except for being a bit sore from basketball, but that's just a normal Thu morning :)
[07:04] <pitti> larsu: how is your phone today? :)
[07:05] <larsu> pitti: it's pretty good now. I've been able to solve all issues except that the read/write image
[07:08] <larsu> pitti: already started converting units (and getting rid of the ones we don't need anymore)
[07:08] * larsu is reading a lot of man pages
[07:09] <larsu> gotta stop for today though and translate some slides for a sales meeting :)
[07:11] <pitti> larsu: oh, that sounds like good progress! You are converting the remaining ones in lxc-android-config?
[07:11] <pitti> larsu: please let me know if you have questions or run into trouble
[07:11] * pitti hugs larsu
[07:12] <larsu> pitti: yep. Will do thanks :)
[07:12] * larsu hugs pitti back
[07:44] <willcooke> Morning all
[07:44] <willcooke> what's libpeas?
[07:45] <seb128> hey willcooke
[07:45] <larsu> willcooke: morning. A library for handling plugins in apps
[07:45] <larsu> (think gedit, totem, etc)
[07:45] <willcooke> thx larsu
[07:46] <willcooke> Do we think #1440504 is something we should target for this cycle
[07:47] <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpeas/+bug/1440504
[07:47] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[07:47] <seb128> willcooke, Laney said he would look at it
[07:48] <willcooke> seb128, well, he said "when and if" ;)
[07:48] <willcooke> is that Laney speak for "I'll do it"?
[07:48] <larsu> woah why is that? Different deps on introspection stuff?
[07:49] <seb128> unsure...
[07:49] <seb128> willcooke, I think it's a way to see "in due time" ... do you consider that a top priority?
[07:49] <seb128> we should do it this cycle if we can
[07:49] <seb128> but I don't think it needs to be done this week
[07:50] <willcooke> That's cool, I don't mind - but I have heard talk of getting Python 2.x off the install CD / out of the image for a while, so if that's blocking then I would like to get it done
[07:50] <seb128> yeah, that's not "blocking"
[07:50] <seb128> it's part of a stack remaining and not the most difficult item
[07:50] <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=python3
[07:51] <seb128> "port software-center to python3" is on this list
[07:51] <willcooke> ah, lolz
[07:51] <seb128> ubuntu-sso-client as well
[07:51] <willcooke> got it
[07:51] <seb128> sessioninstaller port to python3 too
[07:51] <willcooke> thanks, I have some scope now :)
[07:51] <seb128> so yeah, some of those need quite some upstream work and have no allocated ressources atm
[07:52] <willcooke> cool, thanks for helping me understand
[07:52] <seb128> yw!
[07:55] <seb128> I've a big pitti on my g+ today
[07:56] <pitti> seb128: oh, from the canonical pitti? I forgot to remove the auto-generated github link in my daily report yesterday.. :)
[07:56] <seb128> pitti, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/pitti.png
[07:56] <seb128> :-)
[07:57] <pitti> heh, yeah
[07:57] <seb128> pitti, stop staring at me, I didn't do it!
[07:57] <seb128> :p
[07:57] <pitti> seb128: it's not my angry face!
[07:57] <seb128> :-)
[07:57] <larsu> pitti has an angry face? /me doesn't believe
[07:58] <seb128> I was going to say
[07:59] <pitti> yeah, it doesn't come out very often
[07:59] <Laney> hullo
[07:59] <pitti> try saying "TTIP", and you'll see it :)
[07:59] <pitti> Laney: oh hai!
[08:00] <seb128> hey Laney
[08:00] <Laney> hey pitti seb128
[08:00] <Laney> what's up?
[08:00] * Laney is outside in the sun
[08:00] <seb128> Laney, can you see the screen with this reflective glass?
[08:00] <Laney> a bit
[08:01] <Laney> I'm going to go inside in a minute
[08:03] <larsu> morning Laney!
[08:03] <Laney> hey larsu
[08:03] <Laney> what's crackin'?
[08:04] <larsu> got the sales thing today
[08:04] <larsu> translating some remaining slides to German right now. "fun"
[08:04] <larsu> you?
[08:04] <Laney> oh yeah
[08:04] <Laney> what is the general theme?
[08:04] <larsu> ubuntu — designed for government
[08:05] <larsu> it's about all kinds of public sector use
[08:05] <Laney> ah, advertising the keylogging feature
[08:05] <Laney> ^o)
[08:05] <larsu> actually quite interesting :)
[08:06] <Laney> willcooke: It means "someone needs to analyse the reverse dependencies first" by the way
[08:06] <willcooke> thx Laney
[08:06] <Laney> I was mainly intercepting robert_ancell doing this in Ubuntu
[08:06] <willcooke> gotya
[08:06] <Laney> he's welcome to do that first bit ;)
[08:11] <Laney> pitti: did you see that LO is still ENOSPCing?
[08:11] <pitti> Laney: yes, and I know exactly why
[08:11] <Laney> \o/
[08:11] <Laney> |o/
[08:11] <pitti> Laney: (and glibc and chromium-browser)
[08:11] <Laney> \o|
[08:11] <Laney> |o|
[08:11] <pitti> Laney: I'm just preparing the systemd upload which will fix this :)
[08:11] <pitti> Laney: *\o-*
[08:12] <seb128> systemd issue?
[08:12] <Laney> gooooooooooo team!
[08:12] <pitti> mounting /tmp/ as a tmpfs
[08:12] <pitti> I didn't notice as I do that anyway
[08:12] <pitti> we now have a solid fix for that (plus a new autopkgtest)
[08:12] <Laney> ah, I thought ubuntu2 was for this but now I see the changelog
[08:13] <pitti> I had an initial bandaid yesterday
[08:13] <pitti> but mbiebl and I discussed how to make this less brittle
[08:58] <Laney> http://www.nottinghampost.com/Giant-indoor-trampoline-park-coming-Nottingham/story-26674935-detail/story.html
[09:06] <seb128> Laney, found a new sport? ;-)
[09:06] <Laney> tempting!
[09:07] <xnox> RFP of gtk-nocsd
[09:07] <xnox> =)
[09:07] <xnox> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=788076
[09:07] <xnox> Laney: can one play ulitmate freezby on that ?! =)
[09:08] <seb128> gtk-nocsd!
[09:09] <Laney> haha
[09:09] <Laney> they should add something in there to stop drawing the window controls
[09:10] <larsu> omg
[09:10] <Laney> SEED IT
[09:10] <seb128> :-)
[09:11] <larsu> let's do some string comparisons whenever we create any GType!
[09:11] <larsu> surely that will make things faster :/
[09:12] <hyperair> lol
[09:12] <hyperair> is that your first time seeing that?
[09:12] <larsu> ya
[09:13] <larsu> the README is gold: "Even worse, this may break some window manager or compositors.
[09:13] <hyperair> fwiw, i think ld-linux does some string comparisons for looking up symbols as well
[09:14] <hyperair> as does dynamic_cast<> in C++
[09:14] <larsu> indeed, and this is just when registering the type
[09:14] <larsu> so not all that bad
[09:14] <hyperair> yeah
[09:14] <hyperair> what README are you talking about anywya?
[09:14] <larsu> https://github.com/PCMan/gtk3-nocsd
[09:15] <seb128> somebody should just fork gtk ;-)
[09:16] <hyperair> well, sounds like the typical disgruntled non-gnome gtk-using developer..
[09:16] <hyperair> this sentiment seems to float around the lxde and xfce communities
[09:16] <seb128> kde, unity as well
[09:17] <seb128> most of !GNOME I guess
[09:30] <larsu> people were always complaining about gnome and gtk
[09:30] <larsu> this is not news
[09:31] <larsu> even in the 2.x days ... and still, everyone continues to use it
[09:31] <seb128> unsure
[09:31] <seb128> devs didn't complain much about gtk2, out of maybe things being stalling/the toolkit not being modern enough
[09:31] <larsu> exactly
[09:32] <larsu> it was too slow, now it's too fast
[09:32] <larsu> always something to complain
[09:32] <seb128> the main issue with the GTK3 way and what alienates most users is the tendency to replace things with uncomplete/not ready solution
[09:32] <seb128> like "that's the new way, it works for us but doesn't do everything you might need, don't worry we are going to fix it in the next cycles"
[09:32] <larsu> yeah, it adopted the GNOME way of doing things :)
[09:33] <seb128> meanwhile if you want/need those things, sucks to be you
[09:33] <seb128> like you wm doesn't handle csd?
[09:33] <seb128> or you need different decoration order/side that from th GNOME ones?
[09:33] <seb128> sorry, can't do, wait a few cycles
[09:33] <larsu> seb128: ya, taking out the GTK_FRAME_EXTENTS check was bollocks
[09:34] <larsu> I'm not saying that this is the best way to handle a project
[09:34] <larsu> but noone has done it better so far
[09:34] <larsu> just a lot of complaining
[09:44] <seb128> yeah :-/
[09:45] <hyperair> seb128: lol, that whole "that's the new way" thing has been the way a lot of open source projects have been going
[09:45] <hyperair> GNOME isn't the only one doing this
[09:45] <hyperair> arguably, it might be the same bunch of people involved
[09:45] <hyperair> but there was what, HAL, upower, udisks, and udisks2 before that that went the same way
[09:46] <hyperair> and then there's the systemd pattern of course
[09:46] <hyperair> all your projects are belong to systemd
[09:46] <hyperair> s/^/systemd-/ on all project names!
[09:47] <hyperair> okay nuff ranting from me
[09:53] <pitti> sorry, I missed the start of that conversation over my "keyboard broke" fuss here -- what's the "new way"?
[09:54] <larsu> pitti: feel free to ignore
[09:56] <Laney> https://twitter.com/GermanQuatsch
[09:57] * Laney learns Mäusespeck
[09:59] <ogra_> yummy !
[10:00] <ogra_> the pic is wrong though
[10:00] <ogra_> http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2015-05/15/10/enhanced/webdr01/enhanced-buzz-11894-1431699200-9.jpg
[10:01] <ogra_> thats the real Mäusespeck :)
[10:01] <ogra_> (quite different from mashmellow mice)
[10:02] <Laney> they don't look like mäuse any more!
[10:02] <Laney> maybe after some heavy processing
[10:02] <ogra_> its only their bacon ...
[10:02] <ogra_> your breakfast bacon doesnt look like a pig either :)
[10:04] <Laney> speak for yourself
[10:04] * Laney Henry VIII
[10:04] <ogra_> lol
[10:05] <davmor2> willcooke: 15.10 i386 had a very short play last night, trackpad is stupidly sensitive and most of the apps closed instantly other than that looks fun so far :0
[10:05] <davmor2> :)
[10:06] <Laney> most of the apps closed instantly?
[10:06] <Laney> bug report please?
[10:07] <ogra_> does desktop have a very short app lifecycle ?
[10:07] <ogra_> :P
[10:10] <davmor2> Laney: will do when I have 5 minutes, settings app was the only one that seemed to stay open
[10:30] <pitti> Laney: chromium-browser now doesn't fail any more on ENOSPC, but fails on an entirely different reason
[10:30] <pitti> grep: webserver-out: No such file or directory
[10:31] * Laney NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo
[10:32] <Laney> wait, this isn't blocking gtk ;-)
[10:32] <Laney> although I am about to sync glib, so I probably do still care
[10:34] <pitti> I retried glibc and libo as well now
[10:35] <Laney> qengho: maybe you could take a look at https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/wily-adt-chromium-browser/lastBuild/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/console once you're around?
[11:00] <pitti> Laney: right, this looks like an honest test regression with the new upstream versoin
[11:02] <Laney> nod, or at least the test harness
[11:02] <Laney> either way it needs looking at
[12:41] <Laney> seb128: can you demote-to-proposed gnome-shell-extension-autohidetopbar gnome-shell-extension-redshift gnome-shell-extension-suspend-button gnome-shell-extension-weather gnome-shell-timer please?
[12:41] <Laney> the tests are passing again now
[12:44] * Laney lunches
[12:44] <Laney> demote-to-proposed is in lp:ubuntu-archive-tools, btw
[12:46] * Laney has blocked them in proposed-migration so they don't go straight back in
[12:47] <seb128> Laney, what is "demote to proposed"?
[12:47] <seb128> isn't that just deleting from wily and keeping only the proposed pocket version?
[12:47] <seb128> thanks for pointing the tool ;-)
[12:47] <Laney> no, there is no proposed version
[12:47] <Laney> it copies it there and deletes the wily one
[12:48] <Laney> so that it goes back in if e.g. it gets synced
[12:48] <seb128> I see
[12:48] <seb128> thanks
[12:49] <seb128> enjoy lunch ;-)
[12:50] * Laney is deciding what to have
[12:50] <Laney> thank *you*!
[13:23] <qengho> Laney: Perhaps not that error? "tar: Unexpected EOF in archive" I'll look at others.
[13:57] <pitti> qengho: oh, amd64 failed with that
[13:57] <pitti> qengho: we mean the i386 one ("grep: webserver-out: No such file or directory
[13:57] <seb128> same on https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/wily-adt-libreoffice/67/ARCH=i386,label=adt/
[13:58] <qengho> pitti: Yes, got it. Fixed. Will propose replacement soon.
[13:58] <pitti> qengho: \o/ cheers!
[14:09] <Laney> qengho: ah, there was another run and I linked to lastBuild - unhelpful of me
[14:09] <Laney> build 42
[14:09] <Laney> seb128: it went in \o/
[14:10] <seb128> Laney, larsu, well done ;-)
[14:11] <Laney> let the complaints commence
[14:55] <gogis_> ok, so here I am :)
[14:55] <gogis_> I know C/++, Python, Pascal, quite Java... I also understand Assembly and I can learn other languages quickly... can I somehow help with the development of ubuntu?
[14:58] <gogis_> hey there :)
[14:58] <Laney> hi gogis_
[14:58] <Laney> you sure can if you want to
[14:58] <gogis_> Hi Laney
[14:59] <Laney> what area do you want to work on? desktop / server / phone?
[15:00] <gogis_> I would personally prefer to work on desktop, but in the end, it doesn't matter, I would do whatever
[15:00] <Laney> well I always think the best way to get motivated at the start is to work on something which you have a personal interest in
[15:01] <Laney> that is either a bug which annoys you or an application you like
[15:01] <gogis_> Laney: Yeah, I agree
[15:02] <gogis_> Laney: Ok, but how do I get in touch with the developlment team, how do I know what exactly to do?
[15:02] <Laney> you found us
[15:03] <Laney> e.g. here is the bug list for rhythmbox https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox
[15:05] <gogis_> well, nice... where do I get the source codes and what should I do, when I fix some bug?
[15:08] <Laney> here's some documentation: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/traditional-packaging.html and then https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Sponsorship/SponsorsQueue is how to get it reviewed
[15:09] <Laney> it's a bit complex at the start
[15:09] <gogis_> yeah, I see
[15:09] <Laney> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment is a good page too
[15:10] <gogis_> thank you, Laney :)
[15:10] <gogis_> what do you do, for example?
[15:13] <Laney> I work on the desktop mainly, fixing bugs and helping to maintain and integrate the software which makes it up
[15:13] <Laney> also working with the projects that develop the software we use
[15:38] <Laney> can I get seahorse's gpg-agent to forget my key after a timeout?
[15:38] <Laney> it seems to be keeping it unlocked forever which is disturbing me
[15:39] <ogra_> Laney, +1
[15:39] <ogra_> just took me 45min to even find what i have to do after mv'ing ~/.ssh around
[15:39] <ogra_> evo didnt want to talk to dbus anymore and stuff
[15:40] <Laney> DDTT™ :)
[15:41] <ogra_> fun is ... if ssh <IP> doesnt work ... but ssh localhost "ssh <IP>" does :)
[15:43] <seb128> Laney, mvo, ogra_, do you have any opinion on http://paste.ubuntu.com/11696900/ ?
[15:44] <Laney> I have no idea, try slangasek?
[15:44] <seb128> Laney, k
[15:44] <Laney> sorry
[15:44] <seb128> no worry
[15:45] <ogra_> seb128, if you have multiple vmlinuz-* files it would only copy the last ona anyway, no ?
[15:46] <ogra_> (i.e. when you have vlinuz-* and .signed and .efi.signed and whatever)
[15:46] <mvo> seb128: no opinion, I wonder how we can convey better that any change in the file needs to be done in two places :/ maybe we could sh "source" the one from the other?
[15:46] <mvo> seb128: if symlinks do not work
[15:46] <Laney> why don't symlinks work?
[15:46] <ogra_> does the x86 image use a vfat for the boot partition too ?
[15:46] <seb128> ogra_, no, because it would be "cp vmlinuz vmlinuz.signed dir/vmlinuz"
[15:47] <seb128> ogra_, or that work only if dir/vmlinuz is a dir
[15:47] <seb128> which it's not
[15:47] <ogra_> yeah
[15:47] <seb128> mvo, yeah, unsure but that's another topic, I don't want to block getting an image to build on making livecd-rootfs design sucks less
[15:48] <seb128> Laney, because they don't, I tried this week
[15:48] <Laney> haha
[15:48] <ogra_> what do you mean by "suck less" livecd-rootfs is a beauty
[15:48] <seb128> Laney, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/208713546/buildlog_ubuntu_wily_i386_ubuntu-desktop-next_BUILDING.txt.gz
[15:48] * ogra_ hides somewhere
[15:48] <Laney> I believe you that they don't
[15:48] <seb128> Laney, cp: cannot stat 'config/hooks/03-boot_with_systemd.chroot': No such file or directory
[15:48] <mvo> seb128: ok
[15:48] <Laney> I want to know why and whether that can be fixed instead :P
[15:48] <seb128> Laney, ^
[15:48] <seb128> Laney, patches are welcome :-)
[15:48] <Laney> like cp -L or so
[15:48] <Laney> ...
[15:49] <seb128> I don't understand how livecd-rootfs works
[15:49] <seb128> what is the relative dir and where it's copied
[15:49] <seb128> so I don't understand why it's failing
[15:49] <ogra_> it unpacks the linux package in the chroot you are currently in
[15:49] <ogra_> so the kernel ends up in boot/
[15:49] <seb128> ogra_, the symlink issue Laney is asking is something else
[15:50] <seb128> I tried to symlink hooks
[15:50] * ogra_ doesnt see whats complicated about that
[15:50] <seb128> but that results in a "cp: cannot stat 'config/hooks/03-boot_with_systemd.chroot': No such file or directory"
[15:50] <seb128> so somewhat the symlink doesn't resolve
[15:50] <ogra_> yeah, that wont work
[15:52] <seb128> slangasek is happy with the change
[15:52] * seb128 uploads
[15:58] <seb128> "You have been added to ubuntu-desktop-next-release"
[15:58] <seb128> I feel like Laney is on something
[15:58] <Laney> MUHAHAHA
[15:58] <seb128> :-)
[16:26] * willcooke -> EOD
[17:08] <seb128> Laney, is that you hammering desktop-next i386 rebuilds?
[17:16] <Laney> ye
[17:17] <Laney> has this one hung?
[17:18] <Laney> oh no, just moving slowly
[17:19] <Laney> I'll check on it later, got to go climbing now
[17:19] <Laney> should post to the iso tracker if I got the config right this time
[17:19] <Laney> & then in theory self service rebuilds should w ork
[17:19] <Laney> (i386 only until I push the change)
[17:20] <Laney> ok, see you!
[17:20] <seb128> Laney, have fun
[17:27] <Sweet5hark> sneaky changes in configure defaults that create hope: https://github.com/LibreOffice/core/commit/88f94fa76ffbfc3abba885480d7d2d2e05107d0a
[17:30] <seb128> Laney, pitti, can you one you sponsors http://paste.ubuntu.com/11697411/ to debian for me?
[17:37] <seb128> can't commit to the svn either for some reason
[17:37] <seb128> where I can ssh to svn.debian.org
[17:37] <seb128> bah, going for some exercice
[17:37] <seb128> bbl
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[01:27] <micahg> hi bluesabre , I noticed an RC for blueman was in Debian, did we want that nowish or is later ok
[01:38] <bluesabre> micahg: no hurry
[01:43] <micahg> ok
[01:43] <bluesabre> micahg: have you had a chance to glance over the greeter package? I think it's okay, files are migrated as I expect, so it should be safe
[01:43] <micahg> no, sorry, will try soon
[01:59] <micahg> bluesabre: it seems that you are missing a slash before usr in a few places
[02:00] <micahg> also, conf files in /usr/share seem wrong
[02:01] <Unit193> Depends on the config, that's where the lightdm xubuntu session is, and is good there.
[02:06] <micahg> well, I would think it violates FHS, /etc is for configuration files
[02:07] <micahg> I see the lightdm files there...
[02:07] <Unit193> They aren't meant to be changed.
[02:08] <micahg> doesn't matter
[02:08] <micahg> hrm
[02:08] <micahg> well, does matter :)
[02:08] <micahg> but still feels wrong
[02:11] <micahg> violates Debian policy 10.7.2, https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-files.html#s-config-files
[02:14] <bluesabre> debian did it first at least
[02:14] <bluesabre> override_dh_install:
[02:14] <bluesabre> dh_install debian/01_debian.conf usr/share/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf.d/
[02:16] <micahg> in lightdm?
[02:16] <Unit193> No, the greeter. To override defaults, create a config file in /etc/
[02:16] <Unit193> micahg: pbuilder ships defaults in /usr/share/ where you're supposed to override in /etc/
[02:24] <micahg> hrm
[02:28] <micahg> seems like this needs clarifying
[02:28] <micahg> I have to run right now though
[02:35] <Unit193> OK.
[02:36] <bluesabre> so maybe in the case of this package, 01_ubuntu.conf should go in /usr, and the existing conf should migrate to /etc
[06:43] <ochosi> Unit193: btw, wanna take on patching ubiquity to use feh instead of xfdesktop (since you've worked on that part before) ?
[06:45] <Unit193> Not specifically...
[06:45] <Unit193> Can't say I know it or python well.
[07:01] <ochosi> Unit193: if you change your mind and take a look, that'd be appreciated anyway ;)
[08:08] * knome cheers for Unit193
[10:46] <bluesabre> Team members read below
[10:46] <bluesabre> :)
[10:46] <knome> wut
[10:47] <bluesabre> I'm trying to guage interest in meeting times since I suck at making it to meetings
[10:47] <bluesabre> gauge
[10:47] <knome> we can simply run yet another doodle poll (tm)
[10:49] <bluesabre> M-F, 0:00 - 2:00 UTC, 9:00 - 12:00 UTC, 20:00 - 23:59 UTC
[10:49] <bluesabre> Weekends, any time
[10:49] <bluesabre> knome: yeah, that might require more effort and less chiming in
[10:49] * knome shrugs
[10:49] <bluesabre> !team
[10:49] <knome> i can set it up
[10:49] <bluesabre> (See above)
[10:50] <knome> leaving your schedule there is easy
[10:50] <knome> but sure, whatever works
[10:50] <bluesabre> knome: sure, if you'd like to set it up, we can go from there
[10:50] <bluesabre> :)
[10:50] <knome> ok, just a sec
[10:58] <knome> http://doodle.com/vmzrybyw9r9929wt
[11:02] <knome> !team | please fill in the doodle poll at http://doodle.com/vmzrybyw9r9929wt for meeting time coordination
[11:03] <knome> oh stupid bot :)
[11:03] <knome> !conga-rats-#ubuntustudio-devel | bluesabre
[11:03] <knome> !team | please fill in the doodle poll at http://doodle.com/vmzrybyw9r9929wt for meeting time coordination
[11:03] <knome> ubottu, please? :)
[11:04] <knome> my luck has turned!
[11:04] <knome> !team | please fill in the doodle poll at http://doodle.com/vmzrybyw9r9929wt for meeting time coordination
[11:04] * knome slaps ubottu
[11:05] <knome> !team
[11:05] <knome> ^
[11:06] <knome> 22UTC... wasn't that our previous fixed meeting time :)
[11:06] <knome> seems like it still works
[11:07] <bluesabre> edit my previous since I am UTC dumb... M-F, 0:00 - 6:00 UTC, 9:00 - 12:00 UTC, 22:00 - 23:59 UTC
[11:07] <slickymasterWork> done bluesabre, but please take in consideration that I'm just filling for DST
[11:07] <bluesabre> but yeah, up there on doodle
[11:07] <knome> lol
[11:07] <knome> doodle makes it so much easier to figure out the results <3
[11:07] <knome> that just works
[11:07] <slickymasterWork> when I'm not under DST my time frame goes back one hour
[11:07] <bluesabre> slickymasterWork: np, this will help me get a general overview
[11:08] <slickymasterWork> weekends generally any hour is good, provided I'm awake :P
[11:08] <slickymasterWork> and not hanged over
[11:08] <knome> slickymasterWork, likely sameish for most
[11:08] <slickymasterWork> lol, not being hanged over?
[11:09] <knome> slickymasterWork, but you didn't fill in any weekend time?
[11:09] <knome> was referring to DST...
[11:09] <slickymasterWork> see above knome
[11:09] <slickymasterWork> I know you were
[11:09] <knome> i know but it would be great if you could slap in all the times there then
[11:10] <knome> this isn't "you promised you can do that time on every occasion, pay us 1M$ since you didn't"
[11:10] <bluesabre> gotta run now, bbl
[11:10] <knome> it's "let's see when we generally are all available"
[11:10] <knome> hf bluesabre
[11:10] <slickymasterWork> ok ok ok, it's done
[11:10] <knome> thanks ;)
[11:11] <slickymasterWork> hf bluesabre
[11:11] <knome> slickymasterWork, i don't see it though :P
[11:12] <knome> oh, there it is
[11:12] <slickymasterWork> blame google
[11:12] <knome> ;)
[11:12] <knome> always...
[11:12] <slickymasterWork> :)
[12:56] <ochosi> afternoon ppls
[13:14] <knome> hullo
[13:15] <ochosi> knome: i've got a free hour or so today, wanna work on some LO icons together or something?
[13:16] <knome> with YOU?
[13:16] <knome> :P
[13:16] <ochosi> yeah, i know... does that make it weird?
[13:17] <knome> let's see
[13:17] <knome> i'm having a nice break now
[13:22] <sorinb> Hello :)
[13:23] <ochosi> knome: uhm, you mean a break in the sense that you're going afk? or a break in the sense that you wanna do something? :)
[13:23] <ochosi> hi sorinb
[13:23] <sorinb> i'm also sorinello, the guy from last night with the eclipse import issues :)
[13:24] <ochosi> i supposed so :)
[13:24] * ochosi is wearing his sherlock hat
[13:25] * sorinb is still wearing his end-user hat :)
[13:30] <knome> ochosi, heh, break in the sense that i'm not doing work/foss work
[13:30] <knome> not exactly afk either though
[13:48] <brainwash> sorinb: did you read bug bug 1388922 ?
[13:56] <sorinb> brainwash, yes, but there is a thing I don't understand
[13:56] <sorinb> it states that the but was opened on
[13:56] <sorinb> Bug #1388922 reported by Danila Poyarkov on 2014-11-03
[13:56] <sorinb> yet, the first comment is from wrote on 2011-01-20:
[13:57] <knome> sorinb, it's linked to a bugzilla bug that was reported earlier
[13:57] <brainwash> sorinb: the first comments are synced from the upstream report
[13:59] <sorinb> ok, I understand. Not sure what is freedesktop.org, but it's quite olf idf this is from 2011
[14:01] <brainwash> the package in ubuntu is old. some patches were added over time
[14:01] <sorinb> so I guess I can close my issue, since it's not related to xfce at all. I have no experience on how packages from different entities interfere, so I was expecting exo to have full authonomy and apply whatever background command it needed to achieve the functionality. I implied that exo-open should call xdg-open
[14:01] <brainwash> ubuntu 12.04 has version 1.1.0~rc1 too
[14:02] <brainwash> the other way round, xdg-open should open exo-open
[14:03] <brainwash> you should test xdg-open from upstream git before closing your report
[14:30] <sorinb> brainwash, what do you mean ? checkout, build, install and test ?
[15:10] <knome> pleia2, ygm re: -contacts
[15:12] <brainwash> sorinb: yes. it's just a shell script after all, so not much can go wrong
[15:12] <knome> having seen what $users do... yes, a lot of things *can* go wrong ;)
[15:20] <sorinello> indeed. I only ran autogen.sh and then built. I don't even know where the packabe is created so I can install it. Even more, I don't know what to test. The fact that it's not working ?
[15:21] <knome> the reason why you would check with upstream is if it's working with the upstream version, eg. if the bug you have found is already fixed, but just not landed into ubuntu yet
[15:22] <brainwash> how did you build it? why do you expect a package?
[15:23] <sorinello> knome, yeah, I understand. But the bug on launchpad doesn't seem fixed
[15:23] <knome> sorinello, when using the upstream version?
[15:23] <brainwash> ubuntu is downstream, freedesktop is upstream
[15:23] <sorinello> knome, : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-utils/+bug/1388922 this seems open
[15:23] <knome> sorinello, yes, i've seen the bug...
[15:24] <sorinello> so if the bug is still open, I guess there is no fix in the code
[15:24] <knome> sorinello, you should follow what brainwash is telling/asking you to check
[15:24] <knome> sorinello, in ubuntu, yes.
[15:24] <brainwash> sorinello: mmh, strange logic
[15:24] <knome> sorinello, the upstream status is "fix released" though
[15:24] <knome> sorinello, so it should be fixed in upstream
[15:25] <knome> sorinello, but as i said, maybe not in ubuntu yet
[15:25] <sorinello> brainwash, I understand. I'm totally new to these, it seems I can't even read correctly launchpad :)
[15:25] <knome> sorinello, that's why brainwash tried to ask you if the bug is fixed for you in the upstream version
[15:26] <brainwash> sorinello: so, from now on you should post all the commands you are using to pull/build/install software
[15:26] <sorinello> brainwash, I ran autogen.sh fomr the exo root dir, then I did "make". And I was expecting something like a deb ? again, I am totally new to this. If you have any documentation on how to get me up to speed, please give me
[15:26] <sorinello> a deb which I would install with dpkg
[15:26] <knome> sorinello, building with make *never* gives you a drb.
[15:26] <knome> *deb
[15:27] <knome> sorinello, it builds the code to a binary from the sources
[15:27] <brainwash> build this -> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-utils/
[15:28] <sorinello> ok, I'll remember that. Also I'm very new with C, I have more like a Java background
[15:28] <brainwash> forget about exo for a moment :)
[15:28] <brainwash> xdg-open is part of xdg-utils
[15:28] <brainwash> which is outdated in ubuntu (several years old)
[15:28] <sorinello> any reason why they use such an old version in ubuntu ?
[15:29] <brainwash> the new version seems to fix a lot issues
[15:29] <brainwash> mainly because of debian which also has an old version
[15:29] <brainwash> usually new packages are synced from debian
[15:30] <sorinello> I see
[15:30] <sorinello> interesting
[15:30] <sorinello> at least for me, since this gives me some clues on how the whole Ubuntu echosystem works :)
[15:30] <sorinello> *ecosystem
[15:31] <brainwash> it can be a mess
[15:32] <sorinello> so basically the flow is like this: I want to open a link from xchat, xchat runs xdg-open, then xdg-open should figure out that I have xfce, then xdg-open should call exo-open ?
[15:33] <brainwash> yes
[15:33] <sorinello> and a fix has been made in vanilla xdg (freedesktop) but has not been ported into ubuntu/xubuntu yet
[15:33] <brainwash> yes
[15:34] <sorinello> and you want me to get the v anilla xdg, build it locally and see if the new xdg works as expected
[15:34] <brainwash> indeed
[15:36] <sorinello> and the bug in xdg vanilla (freedesktop) has been reported in 2011, so this functionality is broken for 3+ years ?
[15:36] <sorinello> broken in xubuntu
[15:36] <sorinello> and xfce
[15:37] <brainwash> I don't know, maybe it was not broken completely in the beginning.
[15:41] <brainwash> sorinello: also, the ubuntu package is heavily patched (some upstream changes have been picked over time, even custom tweaks were added)
[15:42] <sorinello> odd, because from pov of the functionality, this doesn't sound so complex.. it's not rocket science... I wonder what was t he rationale of these small patches
[15:44] <knome> fix other bugs.
[15:46] <sorinello> seems to be more an integration/armonization problem ...
[15:46] <sorinello> *harmonization between packages, so they fit better in *buntu
[19:47] <dkessel> welcome SwissBot
[19:53] <knome> Unit193, does it offer free swiss chocolate samples?
[19:57] <Noskcaj> ochosi, yes, only since 1.5 (maybe 1.5.1)
[20:57] <Unit193> knome: No, it eats them. It ate mine. :(
[21:01] * knome sighs
[21:03] <SwissBot> Heya, dkessel.
[21:03] <dkessel> good night, SwissBot!
[21:42] <ochosi> evening all
[21:45] <Unit193> Howdy.
[22:13] <ochosi> Noskcaj: hm, can't reproduce. guess we need to find more people who can reproduce your problem, as i said, we haven't changed anything in the brightness key handling
[22:14] <Noskcaj> strange. I'll look through some logs today and try and find the issue
[22:15] <ochosi> ok, that'd be great, thanks!
[22:15] <ochosi> i've heard of the issue before, but it seemed to be very isolated, singular cases, and i could never reproduce
[22:16] <ochosi> some folks messed up their installs so the brightness stuff couldn't be handled because of wrong policies / missing rights for xfpm
[22:47] <ali1234> brightness?
[22:47] <ali1234> like display backlight brightness?
[22:48] <ali1234> because i had an issue with that not working
[22:49] <ali1234> actually... still do
[22:49] <ali1234> and i know it's not my install because over the past two weeks i put my xubuntu disk into four different laptops
[22:50] <ali1234> and on all but my usual one the brightness control worked
[22:50] <Unit193> bluesabre, knome: Also, I'll say this one more time. You cannot direct factoid calls to links, it's an anti-spam measure.
[22:50] <knome> Unit193, aha.
[22:50] <knome> Unit193, i'll never remember that, so... keep on reminding. :)
[22:50] <Unit193> knome: Or just silently laugh.
[22:50] <knome> yep.
[22:50] <knome> fair.
[23:00] <bluesabre> Unit193: np, I'll continue just talking, then pinging
[23:01] <Unit193> bluesabre: Hello!
[23:01] <bluesabre> ochosi: can reproduce
[23:01] <bluesabre> can change brightness with scroll wheel on panel plugin, not with hardware keys
[23:02] <bluesabre> hi Unit193
[23:09] <ali1234> bluesabre: do you see the brightness notification popup when using keys?
[23:11] <bluesabre> ali1234: for keyboard brightness yes, screen brightness no
[23:11] <ali1234> i don't have a backlit keyboard
[23:12] <ali1234> what happens here is that i see the notification and the bar moves left/right, but the display brightness never changes
[23:12] <ali1234> but only on this one laptop. same disk in a different laptop and it works
[23:13] <bluesabre> yeah, different problem than here
[23:13] <bluesabre> are you able to change your brightness with mouse wheel on the panel plugin?
[23:13] <ali1234> i dunno, how do i get the panel plugin?
[23:13] <ali1234> what does it look like?
[23:14] <bluesabre> battery icon, labeled as the Power Manager Plugin in the applet list
[23:14] <ali1234> i just tried directly setting the backlight brightness in /sys/class/backlight/ and that worked
[23:15] <ali1234> doesn't seem to be installed
[23:17] <bluesabre> what release are you running?
[23:18] <ali1234> oh... 14.04
[23:19] <bluesabre> it might have a different name on that release... ochosi could give you a better idea (since he keeps renaming it)
[23:19] <ali1234> i usually run the dev ppas
[23:19] <ali1234> not sure if this laptop has it or not, i don't use it very often
[23:20] <bluesabre> I think 14.04 used indicator-power since the xfce4-power-manager was a bit unmaintained at the time
[23:20] <ali1234> yes, i do have that
[23:21] <bluesabre> https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xfce-4.12 has a newer power-manager release
[23:22] <ochosi> thing is, some ppl report brightness keys not working with xfpm 1.4, some claim it only stopped working with 1.5
[23:22] <ochosi> it always worked for me (i'm mostly using dell laptops though)
[23:22] <ochosi> what i'm trying to say is that the reports so far were rather inconsistent
[23:22] <bluesabre> worked for me with 1.4, I've had plenty of issues with upower in vivid though
[23:22] <ochosi> right
[23:22] <ali1234> yeah, my question still stands though: does the notification show up?
[23:23] <ochosi> for me, the notification shows up, only with the buttons though (as intended)
[23:23] <ali1234> i mean for the people for whom it does not work :)
[23:24] <bluesabre> :)
[23:24] <bluesabre> for me, no notification, no worky
[23:26] <ochosi> fyi, xfpm uses RandR to change the display brightness
[23:26] <ochosi> alternatively, you can use the kernel's display brightness support directly
[23:26] <ochosi> works better with some laptops, which is why the brightness key support is optional
[23:27] <ochosi> bluesabre: have you tried disabling the brightness key support in xfpm yet?
[23:27] <bluesabre> ochosi: nope, how?
[23:27] <bluesabre> oh!
[23:28] <bluesabre> ochosi: that setting was off, turned it on andddddd.
[23:28] <bluesabre> nope
[23:28] <bluesabre> still no work
[23:28] <bluesabre> :D
[23:28] <bluesabre> D:
[23:28] <ochosi> also, you can try to run "xfpm-power-backlight-helper --set-brightness $percentage" from cli
[23:29] <bluesabre> cruel
[23:29] <bluesabre> bluesabre@sean-asus-linux:~
[23:29] <bluesabre> $ xfpm-power-backlight-helper --set-brightness 100
[23:29] <bluesabre> This program can only be used by the root user
[23:29] <bluesabre> bluesabre@sean-asus-linux:~
[23:29] <bluesabre> $ sudo xfpm-power-backlight-helper --set-brightness 100
[23:30] <bluesabre> [sudo] password for bluesabre:
[23:30] <bluesabre> This program must only be run through pkexec
[23:30] <bluesabre> bluesabre@sean-asus-linux:~
[23:30] <ochosi> :)
[23:30] <bluesabre> $ pkexec xfpm-power-backlight-helper --set-brightness 100
[23:30] <bluesabre> now its very dark
[23:30] <ochosi> yeah, sorry, $percentage was misleading
[23:30] <ochosi> the values are set by the hardware/driver
[23:30] <ochosi> so it's not always up to 100
[23:30] <ochosi> could be 1000 even
[23:30] <ali1234> mine goes up to ~13000
[23:30] <bluesabre> I think mine is in the 800s
[23:30] <ochosi> depends on how many brightness steps you have
[23:31] <bluesabre> how do I check that again?
[23:31] <ochosi> odd though if that helper script works
[23:31] <ali1234> look in /sys/class/backlight/*/brightness
[23:31] <bluesabre> scrolling works
[23:31] <bluesabre> 937
[23:31] <ochosi> ok, lemme quickly check something
[23:34] <ochosi> you definitely need polkit support
[23:34] <ochosi> otherwise that script won't be called successfully from within xfpm
[23:34] <bluesabre> yeah, np
[23:34] <bluesabre> I just thought it was amusing
[23:36] <ochosi> another option is that your brightness keys aren't recognized by the kernel as such
[23:37] <ochosi> have you tried xev?
[23:37] <ochosi> generally speaking, the plugin calls the same function as the media-key listener
[23:38] <bluesabre> aha
[23:38] <ochosi> and that function first tries to go through RandR (if the driver supports it) and if that doesn't work, it uses the helper script
[23:38] <bluesabre> the kernel no longer supports my hardware keys
[23:38] <ochosi> fun
[23:38] <bluesabre> x.x
[23:38] <ochosi> problem solved
[23:38] <ochosi> well, "solved" :D
[23:38] <ochosi> i meant: not my problem anymore ;)
[23:38] <bluesabre> :p
[23:39] <ochosi> Noskcaj: please check whether this is the case for you too ^
[23:39] <ochosi> bluesabre: well at least now you can map that helper script to a fun keyboard shortcut of your choice
[23:40] <ochosi> also, since that is out of the way, feel free to review my MR ;)
[23:40] <ochosi> (not that i really want to put more effort into light-locker-settings, but it seemed like an easy and worthwhile improvement)
[23:41] <bluesabre> oh right
[23:41] <bluesabre> I'll take a look at that shortly
[23:41] <ochosi> sure no rush
[23:42] <ochosi> just didn't want it to rot
[23:42] <bluesabre> also replied to your email
[23:42] <ochosi> yes, read that
[23:43] <ochosi> not sure what milestones mate is participating in, i'm not in touch with any of them
[23:43] <bluesabre> flexiondotorg: poke
[23:43] <bluesabre> :)
[23:43] <flexiondotorg> bluesabre, :)
[23:43] <bluesabre> handy
[23:43] <ochosi> that was quick :)
[23:43] <flexiondotorg> I was just about to turn in.
[23:43] <flexiondotorg> What can I do you for?
[23:43] <bluesabre> do you know the milestones ubuntu mate is participating in this cycle?
[23:44] <flexiondotorg> You mean aplha and beta?
[23:44] <bluesabre> yeah
[23:44] <flexiondotorg> All of them. Although I've not communicated that to anyone.
[23:44] <bluesabre> ok, cool
[23:44] <ochosi> from what i know, you can only participate in the milestones you release yourself
[23:44] <flexiondotorg> You cught me because I've just be releasing MATE 1.10 :)
[23:44] <ochosi> so it means actively taking charge of that
[23:45] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, I saw the email. Didn't understand what it was asking of me.
[23:45] <ochosi> otherwise you can only participate in the milestones ubuntu does (i think they only do final beta)
[23:45] <flexiondotorg> On my list of stuff to do.
[23:45] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, They do.
[23:45] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, So are Xubuntu wanting to do all milestones?
[23:46] <bluesabre> we might line up with you guys this cycle since we have at least the toolkit and lightdm apps in common
[23:46] <ochosi> personally, i don't see much benefit in doing alphas
[23:46] <bluesabre> yeah
[23:46] <flexiondotorg> I guess this is because elfy was a causality after the recent community debacle?
[23:46] <bluesabre> at least the first one
[23:47] <flexiondotorg> I'm happy to join up with you guys.
[23:47] <bluesabre> yeah, ochosi and I are taking a more active role in the release decisions with elfy's absense
[23:47] <ochosi> could start with b1
[23:47] <flexiondotorg> Although I have no idea what I am signing up to.
[23:47] <flexiondotorg> I'd like to do the alpha.
[23:47] <bluesabre> we can help your team out as well to an extent since you're still fresh :)
[23:48] <flexiondotorg> Was really sad to see elfy go. Some real arse hats out there.
[23:48] <ochosi> i think Laney also said there
[23:48] <ochosi> 'd be help
[23:48] <flexiondotorg> Well, I'm totally up for it.
[23:48] <bluesabre> but yeah, there's definitely a benefit to keeping our communication chains up :)
[23:49] <flexiondotorg> Are Lubuntu interested?
[23:49] <flexiondotorg> They are introducing LXQt this cycle.
[23:49] <flexiondotorg> Lots of change.
[23:49] <flexiondotorg> I imagine they'd want to do the aplha.
[23:49] <flexiondotorg> Have you discussed this with Kubuntu?
[23:50] <bluesabre> it was just an initial discussion/passing thought
[23:50] <flexiondotorg> OK.
[23:50] <flexiondotorg> Well nearly 01:00 here.
[23:50] <flexiondotorg> So, I'm in.
[23:50] <bluesabre> yeah, you're free to go
[23:50] <flexiondotorg> But off to bed now :-)
[23:50] <bluesabre> thanks for taking the time to chat with us
[23:50] <flexiondotorg> No probs. Most welcome.
[23:50] * flexiondotorg Goes to sleep Z Z Z z z z . .
[23:51] <bluesabre> ochosi: so there's that at least
[23:51] <bluesabre> :)
[23:53] <ochosi> yup
[23:53] <ochosi> personally, i'm not 100% sure we really get more testers by doing more milestones
[23:54] <bluesabre> I agree that the first alpha at least is not particularly useful, since everything changes after that point
[23:54] <ochosi> yeah
[23:55] <ochosi> will you be around tomorrow at some point?
[23:55] <ochosi> cause i really gotta hit the sack
[23:55] <bluesabre> and with the revised package testing plan this cycle (run wily or PPAs and report), it should be okay
[23:55] <bluesabre> I'll probably be around at least in the morning
[23:55] <ochosi> ok
[23:55] <bluesabre> and maybe the evening
[23:55] <ochosi> let's talk in the morning (your morning)
[23:55] <bluesabre> fridays are always up in the air
[23:55] <bluesabre> alrighty
[23:56] <ochosi> i'll look up the release schedule and maybe i'll drop elfy a few lines
[23:56] <bluesabre> cool
[23:56] <ochosi> who knows, maybe he gets back to me with his experiences in terms of how many testers contributed
[23:56] <bluesabre> oh, we generally have all that info
[23:57] <bluesabre> but yeah
[23:57] <bluesabre> go to bed
[23:57] <bluesabre> I need to undo my hour walk in the sun :)
[23:57] <ochosi> yeah, let's talk when i'm less tired :)
[23:57] <bluesabre> sure thing
[23:57] <bluesabre> nighty ochosi
[23:58] <ochosi> alrighty, nighty!
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[00:25] <cmaloney> Evening from Bean and Leaf
[00:34] <jrwren> oh, its CHC time.
[00:34] <jrwren> well, I think I'll participate remotely.
[00:35] <cmaloney> Coolness
[00:35] <cmaloney> I'm drinking a milkshake
[00:46] <jrwren> and by participate remotely, i really mean i'll keep working :)
[00:46] <jrwren> I've beeen || <-- that close to solving this problem all day :)
[00:54] <cmaloney> heh
[01:17] <greg-g> mmm, milk shake, I want one of those
[02:44] <rick_h_> slurpee time here
[02:44] <rick_h_> well, it was.../me stares at now empty cup
[02:52] <cmaloney> heh
[13:41] <cmaloney> Good morning
[13:47] <brousch> Incorrect
[13:56] <rick_h_> morn
[14:05] <cmaloney> brousch: It's correct from where I'm sitting
[14:05] <brousch> Christopher Lee has died
[14:05] <cmaloney> Well, there is that
[14:13] <brousch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=305viYB-G1U
[17:12] <ColonelPanic001> require 'nap.php';
[17:15] * cmaloney slaps ColonelPanic001
[17:15] <cmaloney> We don't do PHP here. :)
[17:16] <ColonelPanic001> I don't either, when I don't have to
[17:16] <ColonelPanic001> but they pay me to, so I do
[17:17] <cmaloney> heh
[17:17] * PainBank *laughs at cmaloney slapping ColonelPanic001 with his Javascript fish*
[17:19] <jrwren> ciesta!
[17:19] <jrwren> someday I should figure out how to work a ciesta into my schedule
[17:21] <cmaloney> PainBank: You're following my Learning Challenge too?
[17:21] * cmaloney is getting a little nervous now. :)
[17:38] * jrwren follows
[17:46] <greg-g> jrwren: re siesta, ditto, it was a great time when Rowan still napped
[17:47] <jrwren> ha! siesta. I can't spell very well.
[18:34] <cmaloney> Pebble Time watches showed up at home
[18:34] <cmaloney> I'm at work.
[18:35] <rick_h_> that sounds like a problem withe one clear solutoin
[18:35] <rick_h_> *cough cough* 'going to head out early getting a headache..I mean..not feeling well
[18:37] <cmaloney> rick_h_: I feel a case of the vapors.
[18:38] <greg-g> veklempt
[18:38] <greg-g> (is that how it's spelled?)
[18:38] <cmaloney> Verklempt (sp)
[18:39] <cmaloney> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_Talk
[18:51] <mrgoodcat> more openssl CVE
[18:51] <mrgoodcat> CVE-2015-1788 "logjam" if you want to google
[18:51] <mrgoodcat> it's a ECDHE bad handshake downgrade attack
[18:51] <jrwren> libressl ftw
[18:52] <mrgoodcat> libressl was also vulnerable
[18:53] <jrwren> *gasp*
[18:54] <mrgoodcat> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[18:58] <jrwren> gnutls ftw!
[18:58] <jrwren> secure transport ftw.
[18:58] <jrwren> mozilla nss ftw!
[18:58] <jrwren> :)
[18:59] <PainBank> cmaloney: yes I am. it is enjoyable reads.
[19:04] <PainBank> cmaloney: I'm having some fun learning AngularJS from www.codecademy.com
[19:04] <PainBank> cmaloney: looks like they also have plain javascript.
[19:06] <jrwren> jabbascript
[19:07] <PainBank> that's funny
[19:11] <mrgoodcat> java the hutt
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2015-06-11-#ubuntu-pt
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[03:33] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[21:03] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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[06:17] <alocer> salam kasi midoni chejori mishe bishtar az 3 monitor ro extend kard ? \
[20:20] <diercy> Salam
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-se
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[12:00] <sireorion> Kernel panic - not syncing attempted to kill the idle task!
[12:00] <sireorion> va gör jag för fel?
[12:40] <sireorion> kan man få grafisk miljö på 10,04 server
[12:41] <lord4163> sireorion: Är den inte EOL?
[12:41] <sireorion> EOL?7
[12:42] <lord4163> sireorion: END OF LIFE ja. Alltså, du får inga uppdateringar längre.
[12:42] <sireorion> kan inte installera nåt annat på servern
[12:42] <sireorion> den e EOL
[12:43] <lord4163> sireorion: Du kan ladda ner 14.04 gratis
[12:43] <sireorion> men den får inte plats på en cdrom och jag har inte stöd för usb start
[12:44] <lord4163> Den får plats på en vanlig CD skiva :)
[12:44] <sireorion> ge mig adress
[12:44] <lord4163> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[12:45] <lord4163> 595MB
[12:45] <sireorion> ok ok... men e det grafiskt på denna?
[12:45] <sireorion> eller kan man installera de?
[12:45] <lord4163> Ja det kan du välja medans du installerar
[12:45] <sireorion> e det 32 bit eller 64?
[12:45] <lord4163> men vet inte varför man skulle göra nånting sånt :P
[12:46] <lord4163> sireorion: beror på vad du har för processor
[12:46] <sireorion> 32 bit
[12:46] <sireorion> pIII
[12:46] <lord4163> Jaha en sån gammal :P
[12:46] <lord4163> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.2/ubuntu-14.04.2-server-i386.iso.torrent
[12:46] <sireorion> hedenhös gamla dator
[12:48] <lord4163> ännu fler skäl till varför du inte bör installera en skrivbordsmiljö
[12:49] <sireorion> ok
[12:50] <lord4163> det tar bara resurser i onödan
[12:50] <sireorion> men hur installerar man det grafiska?
[12:50] <lord4163> Du väljer det när du installerar eller efter installationen kan du köra tasksel.
[12:51] <lord4163> sireorion: du är lite egensinnig va?
[12:51] <sireorion> japp
[12:51] <sireorion> det e en gammal server som skall köras varm =)
[12:52] <sireorion> en fråga iso brännare i ubuntu?
[12:52] <sireorion> finns det inlagt från grund?
[12:52] <lord4163> Ja i Desktop versionen finns det en applikation som heter Brasero.
[12:53] <lord4163> och Transmission - en bittorrent klient som du kan använda till att ladda ner Ubuntu.
[12:53] <sireorion> bränner ut den nu
[12:55] <lord4163> fiber? :P
[12:55] <sireorion> jap
[12:55] <sireorion> 1.5 min nerladd
[12:56] <lord4163> Najs, sitter här med 8Mbit ADSL :P
[12:56] <sireorion> 100 100 här
[12:57] <sireorion> men på 10-04 hur skriver man för grafisk miljö?
[12:57] <sireorion> apt-get install gnome?
[12:58] <lord4163> sireorion: tasksel
[12:59] <lord4163> sedan kan du ta lubuntu desktop
[13:00] <lord4163> eller xubuntu kanske bara finns
[13:00] <sireorion> installerar nu
[13:00] <sireorion> 906 filer hämtas 1 min
[13:14] <sireorion> lord4163, HJÄLP!!!!!!!
[13:14] <lord4163> sireorion: ?
[13:15] <sireorion> Mata in skivan med etiketten "Ubuntu-server 10.04.2 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release i386 (20150218.1)" I enheten"
[13:15] <sireorion> What is this????
[13:15] <sireorion> lord4163, i think u playing some games with me my freind ;)
[13:16] <lord4163> sireorion: Den vill hämta de paket från cd skivan istället från nätet
[13:16] <sireorion> japp
[13:16] <lord4163> Du måste kommentera ut den i /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:16] <sireorion> ok
[13:16] <sireorion> då göra jag det
[14:35] <Amoz> varför kör man en gammal 10.04.2 ? varför inte ta den senaste uppdateringen där allt redan ligger på? eller finns ingen 10.04.5?
[15:01] <lord4163> Amoz: Den har gått ut.
[15:02] <lord4163> Amoz: 10.04.2 är troligtvis inte versionen som han kör, det var versionen han installerade.
[17:23] <Philip5> Linda^: dags att vakna nu! skymningen faller...
[19:00] <Linda^> Philip5: Aldrig får man vara sjuk i fred. Aldrig! :(
[19:22] <Philip5> Linda^: näpp, se så... upp och hoppa... inge synd om dig
[19:25] <Linda^> Philip5: :(
[19:30] <Philip5> Linda^: du ska se att du mår bra om du bara snyter dig och torkar dig bakom öronen ;P
[19:30] <Linda^> Philip5: Haha
[19:30] <Linda^> passa dig!
[19:30] <Philip5> :P
[19:31] <swecarp> Philip5: var snäll nu
[19:31] * Linda^ snorar ner Philip5
[22:18] <Philip5> Linda^: ajabaja
[22:18] <maxjezy> Heh.
[22:19] <maxjezy> Ni som lirar minecraft, ni måste testa lego world.
[22:24] <Linda^> Philip5: :(
[22:30] <Philip5> Linda^: kom vi inte fram till att du skulle snyta dig och torka dig bakom öronen? då kan du ju inte snora ner mig heller
[22:30] <Philip5> din toka ;)
[22:33] <Linda^> Philip5: Du kom fram till det. Jag gör som jag vill ändå :P
[22:47] <Philip5> tsss
[22:49] <Linda^> tss back at ya!
[22:49] <Philip5> Linda^: tur de börjar visa damfotbolls-vm nu när du är sjuk så du får något att göra om nätterna ;)
[22:49] <Linda^> Philip5: bättre än vadå? Jagä r på jobbet :o
[22:50] <Philip5> bättre än att ha tråkigt
[22:50] <Philip5> att se unga tjejer jaga en boll på en gräsmatta är väl jättekul?
[22:51] <Linda^> Nä :o
[22:52] <Philip5> Linda^: du är inte rädd att ditt jobb loggar alla ekivoka saker som du skriver på irc?
[22:53] <Linda^> Det gör dom inte.
[22:54] <Philip5> kanske börjar
[22:54] <Linda^> Kanske.
[22:54] <Linda^> Men då säger dom väl "Den där Philip5.. bra att du är på honom så. Han är jobbig!"
[22:54] <Philip5> den här kanalen loggas officellt
[22:54] <Linda^> :D
[22:54] <Linda^> ja jo, men mitt jobb har viktigare saker att bry sig om :)
[22:54] <Linda^> än vad jag skriver till dig. Typ snor och sånt :)
[22:54] <Philip5> trodde du var det viktigaste på ditt jobb
[22:56] <Linda^> Klart jag är
[22:59] <Philip5> Linda^: sista raden ;)
[22:59] <Philip5> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/06/%23ubuntu-se.html
[22:59] <Philip5> snor förevigat
[22:59] <Philip5> :P
[22:59] <Linda^> Philip5: Yes! Enjoy it, förever!
[23:00] <Philip5> Linda^: som op så redigerar jag bort allt dumt jag säger så bara dumt du säger blir kvar ;P
[23:00] <Linda^> Philip5: Du kanske kan radera från loggen, men du kan inte radera från mitt MINNE! :D
[23:01] <Philip5> jodå... jag hackar dig också
[23:01] <Linda^> :o
[23:01] <Linda^> Försök ba
[23:01] <Linda^> I dare you!
[23:04] <Philip5> du tror att du är snuvig men det är mina sonder upp genom näsan in i din gärna som du känner av
[23:06] <Linda^> Philip5: Var inte så elak nu :(
[23:16] <maxjezy> va snell nu
[23:16] <Linda^> Philip5: Ser du. Jag har vittnen!
[23:28] <Hund> Philip5 dissar hårt med ord som "gärna".
[23:35] <maxjezy> Hund, va inte so elack mot Philip5
[23:35] <maxjezy> alla kan inte vara som jag
[23:54] <Philip5> Hund: i hennes järna :D
[23:54] <Philip5> :P
[23:55] <maxjezy> aha, alla har satt mig på ignore.
[23:55] <maxjezy> jaja. det är en da imon å
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"Amoz",
"Hund",
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"Philip5",
"lord4163",
"maxjezy",
"sireorion",
"swecarp"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-se"
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-us-ca
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[01:27] <locodir-user> hello. I am having trouble installing Ubuntu and was hoping someone could lend a hand
[23:42] <ianorlyn> DonkeyHotei: you might be interested in this talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U1pIcRAiG0
[23:42] <darthrobot> Title: [Openwest 2015 - Aaron Mildenstein - "From open-source community involvement to career" (103) - YouTube]
[23:43] <DonkeyHotei> a bit late, i'm in talks with a potential sponsor so to speak
[23:44] <ianorlyn> ok hope you the best
[23:52] <DonkeyHotei> thanx but i keep worrying about screwing it up in some way or other
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"channel": "#ubuntu-us-ca"
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-ru
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[13:22] <yurau1504> с добрым утром!
[13:23] <yurau1504> шучу. почему у меня leferea стартует со втово раза только?
[13:41] <froover> Как узнать, в каком стандарте сейчас работает точка доступа или клиент, G или N ? В админке стоит мульти, то есть точка может переключаться для совместимости.
[13:41] <froover> клиент Ubuntu 14.04.2
[13:49] <yurau1504> для network manager есть командная строка
[13:49] <yurau1504> не помню команду
[13:56] <yurau1504> nmcli но она похоже не выводит качество связи.
[13:58] <yurau1504> sudo lshw -class network выводит только возможности wifi
[14:05] <yurau1504> нашел. iwconfig выводит частоту
[14:38] <froover> yurau1504 как я по частоте это смогу определить? iwconfig пишет "IEEE 802.11abgn" ну это я ведь и так знаю, мне интересно в данный момент, какой стандарт работает n или какой то другой например g?
[14:39] <yurau1504> в википедии посмотрите. какой соотвествует частоте и пропускной способности
[17:24] <Planzar> Под Андроид юзаю AndroIRC, под Винду KVIrc, под Линукс Konversation.
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"authors": [
"Planzar",
"froover",
"yurau1504"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-ru"
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2015-06-06-#launchpad-dev
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[10:29] <cjwatson> wgrant: So I was looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/42298 after a friend whinged at me about it, which took me to https://code.launchpad.net/~stevenk/launchpad/destroy-dsp_picker-ff/+merge/128138, and I believe I have a modification to the query which produces reasonable results and executes in more like 160ms than the previous one which took multiple seconds
[10:29] <mup> Bug #42298: package picker lists unpublished (invalid) packages <lp-bugs> <target-picker> <vocabulary> <Launchpad itself:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/42298>
[10:30] <cjwatson> wgrant: The piece I don't understand is the comment that it "breaks the branch case". Do you remember background on that?
[10:30] <wgrant> cjwatson: charms
[10:31] <wgrant> cjwatson: /charms is a distro which has no actual packages.
[10:31] <wgrant> It tracks bugs for things that have no publications, just branches.
[10:31] <cjwatson> aha
[10:31] <wgrant> Since we don't materialise which package names are actually valid in a given context, this makes things stupid.
[10:32] <wgrant> There are hacks in place specifically for /charms that allow a bug to be targeted to a non-existent package if there is an official branch, IIRC.
[10:32] <wgrant> Maybe any branch at all.
[10:33] <cjwatson> guessPublishedSourcePackageName does a thing with branches, indeed
[10:34] <wgrant> Yep
[10:34] <wgrant> Just found that.
[10:34] <cjwatson> Perhaps I have enough headroom in my modified query to deal with that
[10:34] <wgrant> Official only.
[10:34] <wgrant> The query should be very quick now.
[10:34] <cjwatson> I basically replaced the join constraints with dspc.fti @@ to_tsquery('default', 'blah')
[10:34] <wgrant> Oh
[10:35] <wgrant> Heh
[10:35] <wgrant> That index very nearly disappeared yesterday
[10:35] <cjwatson> Was it just below the cut?
[10:35] <wgrant> No, it was entirely unused AFAICS, but small and cold enough that I didn't bother deleting it.
[10:36] <cjwatson> Well, perhaps you could see your way clear to leaving it there, it appears to be potentially quite handy :)
[10:36] <cjwatson> (There's also a bug in the rank-25 case in the old query, but easy to fix)
[10:38] <wgrant> Right, it was also potentially useful. The other victims not so much.
[10:38] <wgrant> What does the new query look like?
[10:38] <cjwatson> The official-only thing is fine for guessPublishedSourcePackageName, because that just results in a complaint in the UI if you file against an unofficial thing, but the vocabulary probably has to be looser.
[10:38] <wgrant> SPN/BPN prefix match plus FTI?
[10:39] <wgrant> Oh wow
[10:39] <wgrant> That old query is sort of impressive.
[10:39] <cjwatson> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11602694/
[10:39] <wgrant> I forget when it was added, but that's unjustifiably bad if post-2011.
[10:40] <cjwatson> An earlier version of it was https://code.launchpad.net/~stevenk/launchpad/dsp-vocab/+merge/65762; I didn't trace its full mutation
[10:41] <cjwatson> I haven't tried my modification with pathological cases like single characters yet.
[10:41] <wgrant> cjwatson: Does DSPC actually buy us anything there?
[10:41] <wgrant> Avoiding it would probably actually be faster.
[10:42] <cjwatson> Really? I assumed the FTI would massively reduce the search space
[10:42] <wgrant> xPPH.xpn exist now
[10:42] <cjwatson> And avoid having to join through *PPH
[10:42] <cjwatson> Hm, that's true. I'll give that a try later
[10:42] <wgrant> So you can do a very cheap query for an active publication with the right name in the right place in a fraction of a millisecond.
[10:42] <wgrant> The entire search should take less than 50ms.
[10:43] <wgrant> FTI is silly here when we don't want stemming or anythgin.
[10:43] <wgrant> GIN is slow and not partitioned.
[10:43] <StevenK> Ah yeah, xPPH.xpn got added later, and I think we decided to ignore/remove the DSP vocab
[10:44] <cjwatson> The picker needs to be able to handle the case where the user didn't get the name exactly right thoug.
[10:44] <cjwatson> *though
[10:44] <cjwatson> I don't think exact match only is good enough
[10:44] <wgrant> That's true.
[10:44] <wgrant> But normal English stemming isn't likely to give a good result.
[10:46] <cjwatson> I thought DSPC.fti was handled in a fairly custom way already, but haven't deciphered it in full
[10:47] <cjwatson> Hm, maybe not
[10:48] <cjwatson> Normal English stemming does give a fair bit of junk in this case, but the rank function sorts most of that to the bottom
[10:51] <wgrant> Right, I'm not so concerned about the junk, but whether it actually gives any good results.
[10:51] <cjwatson> It seems to, though I only tried a couple.
[10:51] <cjwatson> linux-image, nvidia-graphics-drivers
[10:52] <wgrant> Ah
[10:53] <wgrant> Because it splits on -
[10:53] <wgrant> So I guess that's not totally invalid.
[10:54] <wgrant> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11602762/
[10:54] <wgrant> Must be matching on linux and imag, I guess.
[10:54] <wgrant> I didn't think it'd split on -, so it's more useful than I believed.
[10:55] <wgrant> It's also a lot faster and less dodgy than the substring matching.
[10:55] <wgrant> So probably worth a branch, since it's quick.
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"StevenK",
"cjwatson",
"mup",
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"channel": "#launchpad-dev"
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-it
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[00:11] <totemone> ciao
[00:12] <totemone> sto cercando di installare ubuntu 14.04.02 LTS su un intel NUC5i5RYH
[00:13] <totemone> il secure boot è disabilitato
[00:13] <totemone> hd senza alcun dato (prima installazione)
[00:15] <totemone> all'avvio continuo ad avere il messaggio "GNU GRUB version 2.02beta2-9ubuntu1
[00:16] <totemone> Minimal BASH-like editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible commands completions.
[00:16] <totemone> Anywhere else TAB lists possible device for completions."
[00:17] <totemone> Mi sapete dare una mano?
[00:17] <totemone> Ho utilizzato UNetbootin per creare USB di avvio per avvio LIVE ed installazione
[09:28] <Alessandro1989> Salve. Avrei un problema di natura tecnica. E' il canale giusto per esporlo ? Alla scelta del Canale ho scelto "Supporto Tecnico" :).
Alessandro1989, wubi non è supportato
Alessandro1989, installa come da guida ufficiale (su partizione)
[09:29] <Alessandro1989> Accidenti :( Va bene. Dove posso trovare la guida :) ?
[09:31] <cristian_c> !installazione | Alessandro1989
[09:31] <ubot-it> Alessandro1989: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[09:31] <cristian_c> !documentazione | Alessandro1989
[09:31] <ubot-it> Alessandro1989: Documentazione ufficiale http://help.ubuntu-it.org - Documentazione della comunità http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Documentazione - Gruppo documentazione: pagina principale http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/GruppoDocumentazione
[09:32] <Alessandro1989> Grazie :)
[09:38] <Alessandro1989> Un saluto :).
[09:50] <cesare> Ciao ho un problema con Lubuntu 14.04 il lettore dvd ha smesso di funzionare... qualcuno mi può aiutare?
[09:51] <cristian_c> cesare, da quando ha smesso di funzionare?
[09:51] <cesare> tre quattro giorni
[09:51] <cristian_c> cesare, sei sicuro che c'entri ubuntu?
[09:51] <cristian_c> cesare, riesci ad avviare una live al boot?
[09:51] <cristian_c> su cd
[09:52] <cesare> si potrei farlo
[09:52] <cristian_c> fallo
[09:52] <cristian_c> cesare, quali cd hai provato?
[09:52] <cesare> dvd e cd che hanno sempre funzionato
[09:53] <cesare> volevo sapere se c è una pèrocedura per rimontare il lettore
[09:53] <cristian_c> cesare, puoi rispondere alla domanda?
[09:53] <cesare> dvd film e cd musicali
[09:53] <cristian_c> ok
[09:54] <cristian_c> cesare, prova a fare il boot da live cd
[09:54] <cesare> ok però allora esco dalla chat e una volta fatto il boot come procedo?
[09:55] <cristian_c> cesare, vediamo prima se riesci
[09:55] <cristian_c> a parte che puoi collegarti in chat anche da live
[09:55] <cesare> ok allora a dopo grazie per l aiuto
[09:55] <cesare> ciao
[09:55] <cristian_c> cesare, ovviamente il bios dev'essere impostato per avviare il boot da cd
[09:55] <cristian_c> *avviare il cd al boot
[09:55] <cesare> si grazie lo so
[09:55] <cesare> ora ci provo
[10:00] <egidiuzz> ciao a tutti
[10:01] <egidiuzz> ho un problema tecnico...
[10:01] <egidiuzz> credo!
[10:02] <egidiuzz> ubuntu mate, collego lo smartphone, legge la memoria esterna ma non mi fa vedere ne l'anteprima ne le foto ammenochè non utilizzi gimp per modficarle
[10:02] <egidiuzz> sono nuovo (a livello che sn passato a ubuntu mate da una settimana)
[10:02] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, 15.04?
[10:03] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, parli di Nemo?
[10:03] <egidiuzz> mate
[10:03] <egidiuzz> MATE Desktop Environment 1.8.2
[10:04] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, ti ho fatto un paio di domande
[10:04] <egidiuzz> si, ti avevo risposto ( secondo le mie pseudo conoscenze...) sono novellino
[10:05] <egidiuzz> MATE Desktop Environment 1.8.2
[10:05] <egidiuzz> MATE Desktop Environment 1.8.2
[10:05] <egidiuzz> MATE Desktop Environment 1.8.2 è la versione
[10:05] <egidiuzz> scusa mi è scappao un incolla di troppo
[10:05] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, la prima domanda è: quale ubuntu mate?
[10:06] <egidiuzz> dove si vede
[10:06] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, la seconda: parli del file manager Nemo?
[10:06] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, in un terminale: cat /etc/issue
[10:08] <egidiuzz> cristian, apprezzo che mi stai dando retta ma non riesco a capire dove e come vedere...fino a 3 giorni fa ero windows oggi sn ubuntu e lo sto scoprendo
[10:09] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, hai aperto il terminale?
[10:09] <egidiuzz> si
[10:09] <cristian_c> !documentazione
[10:09] <ubot-it> Documentazione ufficiale http://help.ubuntu-it.org - Documentazione della comunità http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Documentazione - Gruppo documentazione: pagina principale http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/GruppoDocumentazione
egidiuzz, in un terminale: cat /etc/issue
[10:09] <egidiuzz> ok, non ho aperto terminale
[10:09] <egidiuzz> dove lo trovo
[10:10] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, scorciatoia: premi ctrl+alt+t
[10:10] <egidiuzz> trovato terminale
[10:10] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, in Accessori, comunque, eh
[10:10] <cristian_c> lxterminal
[10:11] <egidiuzz> ok
[10:11] <egidiuzz> 15.4
egidiuzz, 15.04?
[10:11] <cristian_c> bene
[10:11] <egidiuzz> sisi
egidiuzz, la seconda: parli del file manager Nemo?
[10:11] <egidiuzz> e dove lo vedo
ubuntu mate, collego lo smartphone, legge la memoria esterna ma non mi fa vedere ne l'anteprima ne le foto ammenochè non utilizzi gimp per modficarle
[10:12] <egidiuzz> io collego lo smartphn e apro la memoria
[10:12] <cristian_c> hai scritto questo
[10:12] <egidiuzz> si
[10:12] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, non utilizzi il file manager?
[10:12] <egidiuzz> si
[10:12] <cristian_c> su mate è nemo
[10:12] <cristian_c> si chiama così
[10:12] <egidiuzz> ok
[10:12] <cristian_c> su unity si chiama nautilus
[10:13] <egidiuzz> ok, chiaro
[10:13] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, ah, per il terminale mi ero sbagliato, non so in mate dove si trovi
[10:13] <cristian_c> e come si chiama
[10:13] <egidiuzz> ok
[10:13] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, quindi se non hai l'anteprima delle foto mi sembra strano
[10:13] <cristian_c> poi dipende
[10:14] <egidiuzz> ma un programma dallo store per il jpeg
[10:14] <cristian_c> io però nel mio file manager vedo le miniature sia delle foto che dei pdf
[10:15] <cristian_c> su memoria usb
[10:15] <egidiuzz> ora la provo
[10:15] <cristian_c> bisogna capire se Nemo supporta la miniature
[10:17] <egidiuzz> ok, da usb me la fa vedere
[10:17] <cristian_c> ok
[10:17] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, ma come hai collegato lo smartphone?
[10:17] <cristian_c> O.o
[10:17] <egidiuzz> cavo
[10:17] <cristian_c> usb?
[10:18] <egidiuzz> si qll per caricare batt
ubuntu mate, collego lo smartphone, legge la memoria esterna ma non mi fa vedere ne l'anteprima ne le foto ammenochè non utilizzi gimp per modficarle
[10:18] <cristian_c> non capisco quale sia il problema O.o
[10:19] <egidiuzz> allora, prendo lumia, lo collego al pc, mi vede la memoria cm esterna, apro la certella picture ma nieny
[10:19] <egidiuzz> niente anteprime
[10:20] <cristian_c> cm?
[10:20] <egidiuzz> ne foto
[10:20] <egidiuzz> i file sn jpg
[10:20] <egidiuzz> no jpeg
[10:20] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, scusa, hai detto:
ok, da usb me la fa vedere
[10:20] <egidiuzz> se collego una pennetta usb (intendevo) scusate...
[10:20] <cristian_c> ok
[10:21] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, quindi, considerato il tipo di telefono
[10:21] <cristian_c> immagino sia collegato in modalità mtp
[10:21] <cristian_c> invece che come archivio di massa
[10:22] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, se guardi nelle impostazioni di collegamente di WP del lumia, lo vedi tranquillamente
[10:22] <egidiuzz> sp, nn seguo
[10:22] <egidiuzz> mtp =??
[10:22] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, ma in generale, se non c'è la modalità archivio di massa, ci dovrebbe essere comunque una modalità ptp
[10:22] <cristian_c> specifica per le foto
[10:22] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, guarda nelle impostazioni usb del lumia
[10:23] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, ah, per gestire le foto, puoi installare Shotwell
[10:23] <cristian_c> !info shotwell
[10:23] <ubot-it> shotwell (source: shotwell): digital photo organizer. In component main, is extra. Version 0.18.0-0ubuntu4.1 (trusty), package size 1372 kB, installed size 5890 kB
[10:25] <egidiuzz> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/Cm6KK2a2QkmCVfs7wodn
[10:25] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, controlla sul telefono
[10:26] <aspasia1> ciao
[10:26] <aspasia1> ho appena installato xubuntu....mi servirebbe una mano :)
[10:26] <cristian_c> !chiedi | aspasia1
[10:26] <ubot-it> aspasia1: per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-)
[10:26] <egidiuzz> che coa devo controllae nel tel?
immagino sia collegato in modalità mtp
invece che come archivio di massa
egidiuzz, se guardi nelle impostazioni di collegamente di WP del lumia, lo vedi tranquillamente
egidiuzz, ma in generale, se non c'è la modalità archivio di massa, ci dovrebbe essere comunque una modalità ptp
specifica per le foto
egidiuzz, guarda nelle impostazioni usb del lumia
[10:28] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, in ogni caso, se non sai utilizzare windows phone, è il caso che domandi nel canale appropriato
[10:28] <cristian_c> o contatti l'assistenza
[10:28] <egidiuzz> okok
[10:28] <egidiuzz> grazie mitici..alla prox
[10:28] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, hai risolto?
[10:28] <cristian_c> O.o
[10:28] <aspasia1> ok grazie :) dunque, il problema è questo: il computer è un netbook. in pratica quando apro le finestre (qsi finestra di qsi programma), la sua lunghezza massima è maggiore della lunghezza dello schermo e devo sempre andare su e giù con la freccina per vedere tutta la finestra. c'è un modo per impostare la lunghezza massima=lunghezza schermo
[10:28] <aspasia1> ?
[10:29] <cristian_c> qsi?
[10:29] <egidiuzz> non proprio...
[10:29] <aspasia1> qualsiasi, scusa
[10:29] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, il consiglio è di impostare la modalità ptp invece di mtp
[10:29] <cristian_c> sul lumia
[10:29] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, fatto questo puoi installare shotwell e vedere le foto con quello
[10:29] <egidiuzz> nn trovo qst opz di scelta
[10:29] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, che opzioni hai?
[10:30] <cristian_c> aspasia1, imposta la risoluzione
[10:30] <egidiuzz> nn c'è propriio possibita di scelta nn c'è niente
[10:31] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, mi sa che non hai cercato bene
[10:31] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, prima controlla il manuale del lumia
[10:31] <cristian_c> ne ho utilizzato uno e l'opzione c'era
[10:31] <aspasia1> la risoluzione è 1024x600...non è ok per il netbook?
[10:32] <cristian_c> aspasia1, dipende dal netbook
[10:32] <cristian_c> aspasia1, che netbook è?
[10:32] <egidiuzz> e dv dovrei cercre?
[10:32] <cristian_c> e che diagonale ha?
egidiuzz, prima controlla il manuale del lumia
ne ho utilizzato uno e l'opzione c'era
[10:32] <cristian_c> egidiuzz, ripeto, qui ti posso aiutare per ubuntu, per windows phone dovresti consultare il manuale del telefono
[10:33] <cristian_c> *con
[10:33] <egidiuzz> ook..c aggiorniamo dp allora...
[10:36] <aspasia1> cristian_c:è un samsung n145...per la diagonale, sto googlando
[10:37] <cristian_c> a occhio...
[10:37] <cristian_c> dovresti sapere quanto è grande :D
[10:38] <aspasia1> è lui:http://www.samsung.com/it/support/model/NP-N145-JP02IT
[10:38] <aspasia1> non ne ho idea...immagino tu voglia un valore in pollici :)
[10:39] <aspasia1> cmq la diagonale è 25 cm circa
[10:39] <cristian_c> 10 pollici
[10:39] <aspasia1> ok, quindi, che posso fare per le finestre? cambio risoluzione?
[10:40] <cristian_c> aspasia1, è 1024x600
[10:40] <cristian_c> di più su quello schermo non puoi fare
[10:41] <cristian_c> aspasia1, in pratica, le finestre sono troppo grandi per quello schermo?
[10:41] <cristian_c> La risoluzione nativa può essere aumentata artificialmente (interpolata) fino a 1152 x 864 o in alternativa 1024 x 768. L'immagine che ne risulta non è bella ed è in qualche modo distorta
[10:42] <cristian_c> aspasia1, vediamo
[10:42] <aspasia1> sono troppo lunghe. è come se lui quando apre una finestra non capisse che lo schermo è lungo solo 12 cm
[10:42] <aspasia1> la larghezza è ok
[10:42] <cristian_c> 'Se volete vedere più roba a schermo e volete scorrere di meno, Samsung ha la soluzione per voi.'
[10:42] <cristian_c> quindi pare che samsung conoscesse il problema
[10:43] <cristian_c> aspasia1, però non so se ha previsto il trucco solo su windows
[10:43] <cristian_c> aspasia1, apri un terminale
[10:43] <cristian_c> aspasia1, digita: xrandr -q
[10:43] <aspasia1> mah...su windows era ok e anche su ubuntu10.04
[10:43] <aspasia1> ok, ora faccio
[10:43] <cristian_c> !paste | aspasia1
[10:43] <ubot-it> aspasia1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[10:45] <aspasia1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11602718/
[10:46] <cristian_c> aspasia1, mi è venuto un dubbio
[10:46] <cristian_c> quali driver grafici stai utilizzando?
mah...su windows era ok e anche su ubuntu10.04
[10:47] <aspasia1> quelli che si sono installati di default installando ubuntu 14.04...non mi sono posta grandi problemi al riguardo :D
[10:47] <aspasia1> a me viene un altro dubbio...il problema può nascere dal fatto che ho messo docky?
[10:48] <cristian_c> aspasia1, prima non avevi problemi?
[10:48] <cristian_c> (prima di docky)
[10:48] <aspasia1> non lo so a dire il vero...non ho controllato. ho installato il SO e subito docky
[10:48] <cristian_c> beh
[10:49] <cristian_c> aspasia1, digita: lshw -c video
[10:49] <cristian_c> !paste
[10:49] <ubot-it> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[10:49] <aspasia1> ok
[10:52] <conte81> Ciao a tutti
[10:52] <aspasia1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11602754/
[10:52] <aspasia1> carino 'sto servizio paste :)
[10:55] <aspasia1> noto or ora che con texmaker non mi fa problemi.....i problemi sono con i browser internet e le finestre tipo "Impostazioni" ecc
[11:01] <aspasia1> ciao cristian_c pensavo di averti perso :D
[11:01] <aspasia1> senti, semplifichiamo il problema:
[11:02] <aspasia1> mi basta che sia chrome e firefox che si aprono senza dover scorrere su e giù mezzora :)
[11:02] <aspasia1> le altre le sposto con ALT all'occorrenza
[11:02] <conte81> Ciao
[11:03] <conte81> Ciao a tutti
[11:04] <conte81> Buona DOmenica
[11:16] <aspasia1> ciao cristian_c
[11:16] <cristian_c> ecco
[11:17] <cristian_c> i driver mi sembrano teoricamente a posto
[11:19] <cristian_c> aspasia1, samsung n451?
[11:19] <aspasia1> n 145
[11:19] <aspasia1> e se provassi a installare newrez ?
[11:20] <cristian_c> cosa?
[11:20] <aspasia1> è uno script che permette di cambiare la risoluzione degli schermi sfigaterrimi dei netbook
[11:20] <cristian_c> non lo conosco
[11:20] <aspasia1> http://ginho.it/articoli/96/aumentare-la-risoluzione-dello-schermo-su-ubuntu-grazie-a-newrez
[11:20] <cristian_c> mmmm
[11:21] <Carlin0> aspasia1, roba non ufficiale nessuno ti garantisce nulla
[11:23] <cristian_c> aspasia1, ok, mi è venuta un'idea
[11:24] <aspasia1> dimmi
[11:24] <cristian_c> aspasia1, allora
[11:24] <cristian_c> aspasia1, al login quale sessione è selezionata?
[11:24] <cristian_c> xubuntu, giusto?
[11:25] <aspasia1> si
[11:25] <cristian_c> aspasia1, quante sessioni sono disponibili al login?
[11:25] <aspasia1> 1
[11:26] <cristian_c> aspasia1, controlla bene
[11:26] <cristian_c> di solito ce ne sono almeno due o tre
[11:27] <cristian_c> aspasia1, 15.04?
[12:37] <alextn1> salve , avrei bisogno di un consiglio
[12:39] <alextn1> salve non so se la chat si usi cosi'. avrei bisogno di un consiglio
[12:39] <cristian_c> !chiedi | alextn1
[12:39] <ubot-it> alextn1: per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-)
[12:39] <alextn1> ok
[12:39] <Carlin0> alextn1, se lo dici perchè ho la sfera di cristallo in riparazione
[12:39] <cristian_c> !register | alextn1
[12:39] <ubot-it> alextn1: Per sapere come registrarti e in generale come comportarti in canale, leggi http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/GruppoIrc/LineeGuida
[12:41] <SimoAngry> Ciao a tutti, sono nuovo nuovo...qualche settimana fa ho installato in dual boot con win Vista Ubuntu 14.04.02 e mi trovavo strabene.
[12:42] <alextn1> ho installato 10.04 ma non ho una partizione nfts per installare win7, cioe' ho erroneamente dedicato tutto l hd a ubuntu , posso creare la partizione per windows con gparted o devo disinstallare ubuntu?
[12:42] <cristian_c> alextn1, la 10.04 è di quattro anni orsono
[12:42] <cristian_c> non è più supportata
[12:42] <alextn1> ops lultima release scusa
[12:42] <cristian_c> alextn1, quale, esattamente hai installato?
[12:43] <alextn1> 15.04
[12:43] <SimoAngry> L'altra sera ho installato dei programmi che mi servivano e da allora mi si accende ma lo schermo rimane nero...ho provato con comandi fella shell, comandi clean, ripristino e modalita grafica provvisoria ma niente.come faccio, reinstallo tutto???
[12:44] <Carlin0> SimoAngry, da dove li hai presi sti programmi ?
[12:44] <SimoAngry> dal downloader nella barra sul desktop
[12:45] <Carlin0> Ubuntu software center ?
[12:45] <SimoAngry> si, scusa, quello
[12:45] <ExPBoy> e si può sapere che programmi sono?
[12:46] <SimoAngry> gimp, avidemux e vlc, inoltre ho disinstallato il lettore musicale di ubuntu proprio perchè volevo vlc
[12:48] <Carlin0> SimoAngry, domanda sciocca : quando hai rimosso quel programma , ne ha trascinati altri ?
[12:49] <Carlin0> perchè ubuntu ha un sacco di dipendenze
[12:49] <cristian_c> alextn1, puoi ridimensionare la partizione di ubuntu
[12:49] <cristian_c> alextn1, e nello spazio che recuperi, ci crei la ntfs
[12:50] <SimoAngry> che io sappia no, però si è bloccato intanto che disinstallava, ho riavviato, ho rifatto la procedura e funzionava tutto ok
[12:50] <alextn1> con gparted? quanto serve a ubuntu?
[12:51] <cristian_c> alextn1, da quanto tempo l'hai installato?
[12:51] <alextn1> ieri
[12:52] <Carlin0> SimoAngry, e dopo rimosso il programma al primo avvio e non è + andato bene
[12:52] <cristian_c> SimoAngry, magari hai lasciato la disinstallazione a metà e si è corrotto qualcosa
[12:54] <SimoAngry> andava tutto bene...è stato al riavvio il giorno dopo.Una domanda scema, non è che essendo in dual boot con vista, se io faccio una pulizia del registro da vista mi rompe le scatole a ubuntu?
[12:54] <Carlin0> SimoAngry, appunto al primo riavvio...
[12:55] <Carlin0> cmq SimoAngry vista e ubuntu sono separati
[12:56] <SimoAngry> al primo riavvio non si è riavviato bene ma sono riuscito a risolvere con un avvio in recovery mode, però la seconda volta non ha più funzionato
[12:56] <cristian_c> uhm
[12:57] <cristian_c> alextn1, dipende da quanto è grande la partizione
[12:57] <cristian_c> alextn1, puoi postare una schermata di gparted
[12:57] <SimoAngry> è tutto oggi che provo le varie procedure da guida ma non riesco ad avviarlo, sto riscaricando per un eventuale ripristino
[12:59] <alextn1> ho 250 gb dei quali 13 usati d ubuntu 4 di swap
[12:59] <cristian_c> SimoAngry, da recovery cosa accade?
[13:00] <cristian_c> alextn1, bisognerebbe vedere le partizioni
[13:00] <cristian_c> alextn1, posta una schermata di gparted
[13:00] <cristian_c> !image
[13:00] <ubot-it> Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[13:02] <SimoAngry> faccio partire la recovery e mi chiede cosa voglio fare, faccio un clean un ripara pacchetti e aggiornamento grub.e poi faccio un resume.Ho provato anche la modalità low resolution ma non riesco a sciegliere le alternative che mi da
[13:03] <cristian_c> SimoAngry, uhm
[13:05] <cristian_c> SimoAngry, fai una cosa
[13:05] <cristian_c> SimoAngry, avvia un recovery
[13:05] <cristian_c> *la
[13:05] <cristian_c> e scegli shell di root
[13:07] <SimoAngry> ok poi
[13:07] <cristian_c> SimoAngry, sei già in recovery?
[13:08] <SimoAngry> scusa ma sono con vista adesso...adesso entro in chat dal telefono e faccio una recovery
[13:08] <cristian_c> ok
[13:09] <SimoAngry> Eccomi
[13:09] <cristian_c> SimoAngry, sei collegato via cavo al modem?
[13:10] <SimoAngry> No ho il wiki
[13:10] <SimoAngry> Wifi
[13:11] <cristian_c> SimoAngry, collegati via cavo
[13:11] <cristian_c> ti serve una connessione via cavo nella shell di root
[13:12] <SimoAngry> Cacchio non riesco ho il modem lontano
[13:12] <cristian_c> uhm
[13:12] <cristian_c> aspé
[13:12] <SimoAngry> Sono comunque nella root
[13:12] <cristian_c> http://askubuntu.com/questions/104066/enable-wi-fi-in-recovery-terminal
[13:13] <cristian_c> prova a seguire le indicazioni per connetterti
[13:13] <cristian_c> SimoAngry, quando hai fatto, digita: sudo apt-get update
[13:15] <SimoAngry> Adesso vedo..
[13:15] <cristian_c> SimoAngry, col cavo è maledettamente più facile
[13:15] <cristian_c> perché basta un: dhclient eth0
[13:15] <cristian_c> :P
[13:16] <cristian_c> per connettersi
[13:20] <SimoAngry> Dici che in modalità ricovero non riesce a s a rifare gli aggiornamenti visto che non becca il wifi?
[13:21] <roby68grisu> vorrei scaricare ubuntu lts 32 bit ma ci sono diverse versioni non trovo la lista di tutte le versioni sul sito ubuntu chi mi puo aiutare??
[13:24] <roby68grisu> aiuto
[13:25] <Acn0w> roby68grisu, quale di preciso vuoi?
[13:25] <Acn0w> 15,14..?
[13:26] <roby68grisu> credo 14 ma aveva un nome particolare
[13:27] <Acn0w> roby68grisu, la più stabile che c'è ora è la 14.04.02
[13:28] <roby68grisu> tipo 14.04.2 LTS e qui vi era un nome di due parole inglesi
[13:28] <Acn0w> "versione della comunità" tipo?
[13:29] <roby68grisu> me lo a fatto vedere un amico dal sito ubunto ha digitato hold version e apparsa una lista con tutte le versioni ma utilizzava ubuntu ma bo
[13:31] <Acn0w> roby68grisu, ti chiedo scusa, ma non riesco a capire a cosa ti riferisci.. E' un po' confuso il pensiero
[13:31] <Acn0w> in ogni caso qui trovi la versione 14.04.02 lts http://www.ubuntu-it.org/download
[13:31] <Acn0w> a 64 e 32bit
[13:33] <Acn0w> di niente.... -.-
[13:35] <Acn0w> roby68grisu, forse a questo ti riferivi http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[13:35] <roby68grisu> Processore Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7300 da 2 GHz memoria 2048 MB
[13:36] <Acn0w> roby68grisu, erano Trusty Tahr le due parole?
[13:36] <roby68grisu> si proprio quella mi a detto di usare Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS (Trusty Tahr) si grazie che ne dici
[13:37] <Acn0w> roby68grisu, Trusty Tahr è il nome della realase :) 2GB di ram dici...
[13:38] <roby68grisu> nel frattempo siccome la connessione e lenta sto scaricando 14.04.2 desktop i386.iso
[13:38] <roby68grisu> si 2 gb
[13:39] <Acn0w> roby68grisu, considera che Unity frega (o utilizza come vuoi XD) 1GB di ram. Quindi direi o cambi DE o passi ad una versione un po' meno esosa :)
[13:40] <Acn0w> s/versione/distribuzione
[13:41] <roby68grisu> dovrei andare verso la Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS (Lucid Lynx)
[13:42] <roby68grisu> non conosco le caratt sono inespertissimo grazie
[13:46] <Acn0w> roby68grisu, allora qui vedere qualche esempio di DE più leggero di Unity, poi per le caratteristiche tecniche basta che googli un attimo e trovi subito http://www.tecmint.com/open-source-lightweight-linux-desktops/
[13:47] <akis24> io direi di passare in chat a discutere nel frattempo questo è il canale di supporto per il resto usate la chat
[13:47] <roby68grisu> grazie mille Acn0w
[13:48] <Acn0w> akis24, si giusto, ogni volta mi faccio prender la mano.... ;)
[13:48] <akis24> :)
[15:40] <Guest39740> ciao a tutti, è la prima volta che uso un forum,
[15:41] <krabador> !ciao | Guest39740
[15:41] <ubot-it> Guest39740: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[15:41] <Guest39740> volevo chiedervi una informazione
[15:41] <krabador> il forum puoi trovarlo qui http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/
[15:41] <krabador> questo è il canale irc italiano di supporto ufficiale.
[15:42] <Guest39740> non riesco ad installare virtualbox, ho provato a seguire una procedura su internet ma senza risultato
[15:42] <Guest39740> come posso fare??
[15:42] <krabador> dove devi installarlo virtualbox?
[15:42] <Guest39740> su ubuntu 14.04
[15:42] <krabador> Guest39740, e prevalentemente, puoi indicare la procedura che hai seguito ?
[15:43] <Guest39740> ho provatoa crivere a terminale il comando "sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[15:43] <krabador> Guest39740, per favore, proprio il link della risorsa che hai seguito
[15:44] <Guest39740> inizia il processo però si blocca con una schermata in dice che il softwere è di proprietà EULA e non và più avanti
[15:47] <Guest39740> http://www.finex.org/guida-virtualbox-come-installare-virtualbox-4-su-ubuntu-linux-1204.html
[15:53] <Guest17437> ciao
[15:54] <krabador> !ciao | Guest17437
[15:54] <ubot-it> Guest17437: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[15:55] <Guest17437> posso farti una domanda??
[15:55] <krabador> chiedi pure
[15:56] <Guest17437> sono un neofita del sistema operativo ubuntu e vorrei installare virtualbox...
[15:56] <Guest17437> come devo fare??
[15:57] <krabador> Guest17437, http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Virtualizzazione/VirtualBox/Installazione seguire questa
[15:57] <krabador> non la prima guida non ufficiale che ti capita a tiro
[16:12] <Guest17437> penso di esserci riuscito...grazie mille!!!!!
[16:13] <krabador> Guest17437, di niente
[16:33] <JethroTux> cristian_c, ci sei?
[20:10] <naxil> !chat
[20:10] <ubot-it> per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
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[00:54] <ubuntu> hola
[00:54] <marymost> hola
[00:54] <marymost> tengo una duda
[00:54] <marymost> acabo de instalar ubuntu
[00:54] <marymost> pero las ventanas son demasiado grandes para mi monitor
[00:55] <marymost> y no soy capaz de cambiarlo
[00:55] <marymost> alguien podria ayudarme?
[09:07] <lowcost> Hola, ¿ conocen algo de similar potencia que sean tan económico y que lleve un linux o ubuntu pc ? http://www.cloudsto.com/mk36.html
[09:20] <erAbuelo> buenas
[17:03] <lucas> hola
[17:03] <lucas> tengo problemas con poweroff
[17:03] <lucas> el esquipo reinicia en lugar de apagarse
[18:17] <erAbuelo> buenas
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2015-06-06-#juju
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[00:28] <styles> Hey guys I'm trying to install JuJu on 14.04 LTS and I'm running into issues. Created new user, gave them sudoers, ran juju quickstart -i .. generated everything. First issue was it threw "undefined symbol: cgmanager_get_pid_cgroup_abs_sync" assumged it was some LXC thing .. upgraded system .. but now it's just stuck at retrieving the enviorment status
[00:28] <styles> (been there for a few minutes)
[01:53] <marcoceppi> styles: that's...weird
[01:53] <marcoceppi> what version of juju are you using?
[01:53] <styles> latest
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[04:07] <tripelb> What am I missing with xubuntu rather than ubuntu-gnome. (Lets not mention unity or complex)
[04:07] <tripelb> Compis
[04:09] <tripelb> Compiz
[04:10] <tripelb> I know this too. Xubuntu provides a light, stable and configurable desktop environment with conservative workflows.
[04:12] <Guest25861> yeh, i have the same question, why did Debian swith from xfce to Gnome? here are some answers:
[04:13] <Guest25861> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc5NTA
[04:13] <Guest25861> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc5NTA
[04:13] <Guest25861> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktop/Requalification/Jessie
[04:17] <Guest25861> And Tails picked Gnome for some reason, (probly just following Debian)
[04:27] <nomic> xfce ftw
[08:38] <Hund> :)
[15:35] <xubuntu63w> Jello
[15:36] <xubuntu63w> Hey can I have some help?
[15:37] <xubuntu63w> I burned my image in to usb and when it loads I can't instal or run it
[15:37] <bekks> How do you "burn" your image to USB?
[15:38] <xubuntu63w> Anyone here?..
[15:38] <bekks> Look at "/names" and you'll see a lot of people in here.
[15:38] <xubuntu63w> With some kind of image maker
[15:38] <bekks> And we have to guess that "kind of image maker"?
[15:39] <bekks> How about stating details on what you did, and how you did?
[15:40] <xubuntu63w> Is that a problem?the image works.It loads but there it stops...
[15:40] <bekks> Well, if you dont want to provide information, at least I cant help you. Good luck in finding someone with a larger glass orb.
[15:41] <xubuntu63w> Thanks
[16:09] <Hurga> Hi. Does anyone know how update-manager uses polkit, and how to debug that? I switched from xubuntu 12.04 to 14.04, and now the Software Updater (update-manager) tells me I'm "not allowed to perform this action" when I open it.
[16:10] <nomic> whats polkit
[16:10] <Hurga> /usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd
[16:13] <Hurga> (is this the wrong place to ask technical questions?)
[16:14] <nomic> n
[16:14] <nomic> but htees ubuntu too #ubuntu -- more populated
[16:15] <nomic> also http://ubuntuforums.org/ very busy
[16:15] <nomic> always a response to correctly phrased/placed question
[16:16] * nomic wouild put a forum message for your issue right away
[16:21] <Hurga> ubuntu one sso? omg.
[18:32] <sim642> All of a sudden I have no audio and the volume controls aren't opening, no pulseaudio running
[18:32] <sim642> I can't figure out how to restart it either
[18:32] <sim642> all I find online is to apt-get purge pulseaudio...
[18:33] <bekks> sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart ?
[18:34] <sim642> doesn't change anything
[18:34] <sim642> there's pulseaudio instances running as root and lightdm but not as my account
[18:34] <bekks> So log out, and back in?
[18:35] <sim642> my bad, not root but pulse
[18:35] <sim642> I'd like to not do that
[18:39] <Unit193> pulseaudio is usually a user process, not system. Also, generally speaking it autospawns unless disabled.
[18:39] <Unit193> .config/pulse/client.conf
[18:39] <Unit193> autospawn=no
[18:39] <sim642> I don't even have such file
[18:40] <sim642> and starting it manually doesn't make things work either
[18:41] <sim642> I see this in syslog: pulseaudio[19419]: [pulseaudio] module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
[18:42] <sim642> and a whole lot of lines like: 2:3:3: cannot set freq 16000 to ep 0x86
[18:42] <sim642> it broke down completely randomly
[18:55] <xubuntu26w> Hi! Please help me?
[18:55] <xubuntu26w> I can't get wifi working
[18:56] <ObrienDave> you have to enable wifi and make sure the hardware switch is on (if you have one)
[18:57] <xubuntu26w> How?
[18:58] <ObrienDave> looking, sec
[18:59] <ObrienDave> do you have the 'indicator plugin' added to your taskbar?
[19:00] <xubuntu26w> No
[19:01] <ObrienDave> add that. it should give you an icon for networking. among other things
[19:03] <xubuntu26w> omg... so it was that easy
[19:03] <xubuntu26w> finally found it :)
[19:03] <ObrienDave> cool
[19:03] <xubuntu26w> Thank you! :)
[19:03] <ObrienDave> most welcome
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-uk
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[05:03] <tiggerpaws> test
[05:03] <daftykins> test failed
[05:21] <tiggerpaws> burrrp
[05:33] <tiggerpaws> HA HA!
[09:11] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:42] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:43] <brobostigon> morning bigcalm
[10:44] <brobostigon> beer and music fest at my local today, definatly worth a visit methinks.
[10:45] <penguin42> well, there's beer and music fest at my local park over the road - about 20k people and I can hear about the low 1khz of it
[10:56] <bigcalm> intrbiz: are you around for some switch support? :)
[11:36] * popey lights the bbq
[11:37] <bigcalm> Relight my fire
[11:37] <MartijnVdS> If you're waiting for food from the bbq, are you in a bbqq?
[11:39] <bigcalm> kthxbi
[12:05] <bigcalm> Finally got into the switch via console, then ssh and now web
[12:05] <bigcalm> That was painful
[12:05] <MartijnVdS> what kind of switch?
[12:05] <bigcalm> 3com 4500
[12:08] <bigcalm> intrbiz has said that it's possible to put the 5500 firmware on to it. Now found anything online saying the same though
[12:08] <MartijnVdS> We're getting a CRS1009-1S-1S+ for the office :)
[12:09] <MartijnVdS> And as we're a small company I've been tasked with configuring the thing :)
[12:09] <MartijnVdS> ccr1009*
[12:09] <MartijnVdS> http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1Splus
[12:10] <bigcalm> Very nice
[12:14] <penguin42> oh neat, not actually come across anything with the Tilera in
[12:50] * bigcalm wanders off for tea and cake
[16:27] * popey is full of bbq
[16:36] * penguin42 offers popey a waffer thin mint
[17:03] <bujji> why linked file default 777 permissions assiged..if i try to change permissions why is no changing??
[17:03] <bujji> popey:hello
[17:06] <daftykins> you should not be using 777
[17:06] <daftykins> what file system is it on?
[17:12] <daftykins> must be the way i speak :>
[17:15] <popey> :)
[17:25] * bigcalm is full of tesco healthy living sausages
[17:25] <Laney> ooer
[17:25] <bigcalm> They are quite dull, but filling
[17:26] <penguin42> what makes them healthy living?
[17:26] <bigcalm> Less fat I think
[17:27] * daftykins looks around for diddledan
[17:27] <bigcalm> Fewer tasty molecules
[17:27] <daftykins> shauno: did you kill 'im?
[17:27] <bigcalm> Now I have a sausage headache :(
[17:27] <daftykins> hehe
[17:27] <popey> a what
[17:27] <penguin42> bigcalm: Would icecream induced brain freeze counteract that?
[17:28] <bigcalm> penguin42: I would be happy to find out, but lack ice cream
[17:28] <bigcalm> Do I really want to go to Waitrose right now?
[17:29] <penguin42> they probably sell ice cream
[17:33] <popey> starting to regret running autopilot tests on my home server
[17:33] <popey> kinda heard the nokia tune enough now
[17:33] <popey> over and over
[17:35] <penguin42> unplug the speaker?
[17:35] <popey> on a phone.
[17:35] <popey> hmm, can probably silence it
[17:39] <penguin42> why do autopilot tests ring your phone?
[17:39] <daftykins> ooh you reminded me i bought discounted white Wall's Magnums!
[17:39] <daftykins> \o/
[17:39] <penguin42> yeh I can see why those would be discounted, the best bit about a magnum is the chocolate outside
[17:40] <daftykins> ah i love it all
[17:40] <daftykins> bujji: so, file system? why 777?
[17:40] <bujji> daftykins:yes:))
[17:41] <bujji> for sym link
[17:41] <daftykins> i don't think being a symlink has anything to do with ever requiring 777
[17:41] <penguin42> is this the permissions on the symlink itself rather than the thing it points to?
[17:42] <bujji> bydefault umask will asign permissions right.
[17:42] <bujji> permissions on the sym link itself
[17:43] <penguin42> yeh, I seem to remember perms on a symlink are a bit special but can't remember the detail about it
[17:43] <daftykins> you said permissions weren't changing, so what was the target and which file system was it on?
[17:44] <bujji> yes its not changing ...
[17:45] <bujji> by using chmod..
[17:51] <bujji> daftykins:i am on ext4 file system.))
[17:54] <daftykins> show an ls -al of the file path, what you're trying to run
[17:55] <daftykins> in a pastebin
[17:56] <bujji> okey
[18:12] <popey> lulz
[18:23] <bujji> daftykins:hello again.
[18:27] <daftykins> o/
[18:31] <bujji> daftykins:yes
[18:34] <bujji> daftykins:i want to know how 777 perm's assign for sym link...why its not changing.
[18:37] <Flashtek> symlinks are just a pointer
[18:37] <Flashtek> the actual permissions are enforced by the 'remote' permissions
[18:39] <penguin42> Flashtek: I seem to remember there were some setups that could do perms on the link as well, but I can't remember the details
[18:40] <Flashtek> sticky etc?
[18:40] <bujji> penguin42:hm..yes
[18:41] <daftykins> well the information i requested would still be useful
[18:41] <daftykins> but nevermind, taking too long :)
[18:41] <bujji> Flashtek: enforced by the 'remote' permissions ??
[18:42] <daftykins> the target file
[18:50] <bujji> o/
[18:50] <daftykins> wow your connection is bad
[18:50] <bujji> yes))
[18:52] <bujji> daftykins:do we have any software for linux like voice based command passing??
[18:53] <daftykins> please direct your questions to the channel, not individual users
[18:54] <daftykins> also bear in mind #ubuntu is the main support channel, you'll get more answers there
[18:54] <bujji> okey sure
[19:00] <bujji> what is the first "0" represents in umask "0022"
[19:09] <penguin42> bujji: There are a few specials that you dont see much of - suid, sgid and the stucky bit
[19:09] <penguin42> sticky
[20:26] <ball> Is there a font for Ubuntu that can render IBM code page 437? I've been sent something with line drawings in it. :-/
[20:32] <penguin42> oh probably
[20:32] <penguin42> ball: I'm not sure, but maybe fonts-3270 would have the right set, but there's probably something simpler
[22:09] <ball> penguin42: Thanks, I'll have a look.
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-accessibility
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[02:50] <saladin442> WHY So less? 10 people only?
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-de
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[01:21] <Scalp500> Guten Morgen.
[01:24] <Scalp500> Ich würde gerne mit der GuFw eine Regel einrichten, die sämtlichen ein- und ausgehenden Traffic blockiert. Nur einzelne Applicationen sollen Zugriff ins Netz erhalten. Auf OS X hatte ich damals das Programm Little Snitch dafür verwendet. Leider finde ich keine ähnliche Firewall für Ubuntu die es mir per GUI erlaubt, gezielte Applicationen zu erlauben. Die GuFw kann nur Ports sperren oder freigeben. Hat von Euch Profis noch jemand eine Idee?
[01:26] <Scalp500> Zum Beispiel soll eine systemweite deny all rule gesetzt werden. Jedoch soll der Firefox dennoch ALLE Prots zu sämtlichen IPs konnektieren dürfen.
[10:42] <Blindie> moin
[10:43] <Blindie> gibt es inzwischen eine brauchbare vollbildlupe die mit Unity zusammen funktioniert?
[10:59] <t4nk613> Hallo allerseits
[11:01] <t4nk613> Ich habe einen PC mit folgenden Spezifikationen: Asus P8B75M Mainboard, SSD am onboard RAID-Port und einer nVidia gtx 560Ti. Nun meine Frage, muss ich etwas beachten bezgl. einer ubuntu Installation? hatte bisher nur ubuntu Rechner mit BIOS, dieser hat aber ein UEFI, daher bin ich gerade etwas ratlos, ob ich das so ohne weiteres draufbügeln kann. Bin für jeden Tipp dankbar :)
[11:02] <t4nk613> huch, meinte natürlich nicht RAID-Port sondern S-ATA Port.
[11:04] <bekks> "Nein."
[11:04] <t4nk613> bekks: ging das in meine Richtung?
[11:05] <bekks> Ja :)
[11:05] <t4nk613> bekks: ok, dann bezieht sich das nein hoffentlich auf meine 1. Frage? :)
[11:05] <bekks> Ich bezog mich auf die einzige Frage :)
[11:06] <t4nk613> oh sorry, ja etwas blöd formuliert. natürlich die einzige Frage :D Super, vielen Dank
[11:07] <t4nk613> muss, bzw. sollte ich die externe USB-Festplatte, so wie eine interne Festplatte (beide NTFS) mit einem anderen Dateisystem formatieren, oder kann ich die ohne weiteres übernehmen?
[11:09] <k1l> wenn du die externe platte auch noch an anderen rehcnern nutzen willst sollte die ntfs bleiben.
[11:10] <k1l> wenn du allerdings da irgendwo ein ubuntu installieren willst, dann geht das nicht auf ntfs. da brauchst du ext4 partitionen
[11:10] <nagetier> t4nk613, sollen diese denn auch unter Windows verwendet werden? Wenn nein, würde ich die interne mit einem anderen Dateisystem formatieren.. die externe wie k1l sagt
[11:11] <t4nk613> k1l: ich habe nicht vor, die Platten auf anderen Systemen zu verwenden, bzw. wenn nur als Freigabe vom ubuntu pc aus.
[11:11] <k1l> dann ext nehmen. ntfs ist langsamer und kann keine rechte
[11:11] <t4nk613> nagetier: k1l : danke euch beiden
[16:59] <gugaua> Hallo, ich hoffe meine Frage ist nicht offtopic... ich möchte eine Variable in einer Configdatei per Skript ändern, dafür muss ich SED verwenden und das ist mir etwas zu kompliziert... kann mir jemand sagen wie in der Datei config.php die zeile 'maintenance' => false, auf 'maintenance' => true, gesetzt werden kann?
[17:00] <sash_> gugaua: Naja, sed ist nicht unbedingt kompliziert, man kann es so kompliziert machen, wie man will.
[17:01] <gugaua> sash_: kompliziert ist relativ :) für mich ist es nicht gang eindeutig wegen regex
[17:03] <dasjoe> gugaua: das hier zeigt dir die geänderte config an: sed -e "s/'maintenance' => false/'maintenance' => true/" config.php
[17:04] <sash_> gugaua: Du kannst aber auch einfach die komplette Zeile ersetzen, also sed ohne regex nutzen, wie dasjoe oben schrieb.
[17:04] <sash_> gugaua: und -i statt -e schreibt auch direkt in die Datei (vorher mit e testen, ob alles richtig ist)
[17:05] <dasjoe> gugaua: wenn das gut aussieht kannst du's inline (-i) so mit sed editieren: sed -i -e "s/'maintenance' => false/'maintenance' => true/" config.php
[17:06] <gugaua> dasjoe: das schaut genau nach dem aus was ich suche
[17:06] <gugaua> sash_: ja das hat mir gerade viel geholfen :) danke
[17:07] <sash_> gugaua: Oft wird in sed halt mit regex gearbeitet, muss man aber nicht, wenn man genau weiß, was man durch was ersetzen will.
[17:08] <gugaua> sash_: in dem fall ist es ja "einfach" ein begriff durch einen anderen zu ersetzen
[17:09] <sash_> gugaua: Richtig. Und das ist bei regex prinzipiell genau so, nur dass die regex halt mehr "matchen"
[17:09] <gugaua> aber regex muss ich mir mal anschauen, ich will auch ein bisschen mit fail2ban experimentieren und da komm ich ohne dem nicht zurecht
[17:10] <gugaua> sash_: was würde passieren wenn bei sed mehrere treffer findet? in dem unwahrscheinlichen fall das maintenance true doppelt vorkäme?
[17:10] <sash_> gugaua: Dann ersetzt der per default nur den ersten Treffer, meine ich.
[17:10] <sash_> gugaua: Teste es in einer Datei aus.
[17:10] <sash_> gugaua: Schreib das zweimal rein, lass sed drauf laufen und schau, was passiert.
[17:10] <gugaua> sash_: alles klar, dann hab ich eine wochenendbeschäftigung :)
[17:11] <sash_> Nee, ersetzt alles.
[17:13] <gugaua> sash_: okay, das ist schon mal gut zu wissen... du hast eigentlich folgendes gemacht... s/regexp/replacement/ also der s/ parameter sagt was in was verändert werden soll?
[17:13] <gugaua> quasi s/gefundenerinput/ersetzterouput/
[17:13] <sash_> Jenau.
[17:14] <sash_> gugaua: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/sed
[17:14] <kubine> sash_: Title: sed › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[17:14] <gugaua> also doch ned so schlimm wie ich dachte :) danke nochmals
[18:00] <vlada77> hallo zusammen
[18:01] <vlada77> kennt sich jemand von euich mit openvpn ?
[18:03] <gh0stface> wieso? was hast du dvor
[18:04] <vlada77> ich hab per webmin alles eingerichtet mit tun device und hatt alles funktioniert
[18:05] <vlada77> jetzt wolte ich einen openvpn mit tap0 device einrichten
[18:05] <vlada77> bridge ist vorhanden an ubuntu server
[18:06] <vlada77> bekomme immer fechler beim einrichte mit tap0 "Path to Bridge-Start or path to Bridge-End or path to Plugin not found"
[18:07] <gh0stface> lese dir den error nochmal durch? Was fählt dir auf
[18:07] <gh0stface> ihrgendwie fählt ihrgendetwas nen plugin um ne vpn über ne brige zu spannen
[18:08] <gh0stface> wurde dir evtl bei sowas selber hand anlegen auf der shell und nicht via webfrontend
[18:08] <gh0stface> die openvpn.conf is sehr gut dokumentiert!
[18:08] <vlada77> ja das habe ich schon festgestellt aber weis ich nicht wie ich den patch hinzufugen kann mit webmin
[18:10] <vlada77> kannst mir eine how tow webseite mit openvpn empfehlen wie man bridged Tap0 configuriert
[18:11] <vlada77> die server.conf
[18:12] <gh0stface> https://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/miscellaneous/76-ethernet-bridging.html
[18:12] <kubine> gh0stface: Title: Ethernet Bridging (at openvpn.net)
[18:13] <vlada77> vielen dank
[18:13] <gh0stface> np!
[18:30] <Afrrer> Kennt sich jemand von euch mit Freifunk aus?
[18:31] <koegs> neuer Nick, neue Metafrage
[18:31] <k1l_> unterstreiche mal ubuntu in deiner frage :)
[18:42] <Mundus> Hi,
[18:42] <Mundus> warum muss ich in der /etc/rc.local die Passage
[18:42] <Mundus> (/bin/sleep 40 && /mnt/Ziel/)
[18:42] <Mundus> und kann nicht sleep 40 && schreiben?
[18:43] <Mundus> sleep ist doch ein Programm?
[18:43] <bekks> Weil && an der Stelle keinen Sinn ergibt.
[18:43] <bekks> sleep wird immer erfolgreich ausgeführt, und sleep 40 wartet immer 40s.
[18:43] <Mundus> Wieso macht das kein Sinn?
[18:43] <k1l_> weil es als root läuft und der PATH vom root nicht vollsändig ist und deswegen fullpath bruacht?
[18:44] <bekks> Mundus: Weil ich Dir das gerade erklärt habe.
[18:44] <Mundus> Das mit dem PATH macht Sinn ;)
[18:44] <bekks> Erstelle doch stattdessen einen fstab Eintrag.
[18:44] <Mundus> der fstab funktioniert nicht, da _netdev nicht erfolgreich ist
[18:45] <bekks> Was bedeutet "_netdev ist nicht erfolgreich"?
[18:45] <Mundus> Ich habe gestern hier schon hilfe bekommen und habe in fstab noauto gesetzt und in rc.local die o.g. Einstellungen
[18:45] <rabb> Hallo zusammen, bin gerade dabei einen dedicated Server mit Ubuntu 14.04 als KVM-Host fit zu machen. Dazu wollte ich eine bridge einrichten nach dieser Anleitung: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Netzwerkbr%C3%BCcke So weit so gut, alles konfiguriert und interfaces neu gestartet - Server nicht mehr erreichbar :D Habe den Server neu aufsetzen lassen und nun zu meine eigentliche Frage: ist es möglich, eine Art Test der interface-Einstellungen zu
[18:45] <rabb> machen und im Notfall auf die alten zurückzufallen?
[18:45] <Mundus> bekks: Das das Netzlaufwerk nicht korrekt gemountet wird
[18:46] <bekks> Mundus: Was bedeutet "nicht korrekt gemounted"?
[18:46] <Mundus> bekks: Nicht korrekt heißt in diesem Fall nicht gemountet
[18:47] <Mundus> Und da ich gestern den Tip mit dem EIntrag in fstab + rc.local erhalten habe, habe ich diesen umgesetzt.
[18:48] <bekks> Wie sieht die Zeile deiner fstab denn aus?
[18:49] <Mundus> "//192.168.100.55/Quelle /mnt/Ziel/ cifs noauto,nounix,iocharset=utf8,password= 0 0"
[18:51] <bekks> Und mit _netdev sah sie wie aus?
[18:51] <Mundus> "//192.168.100.55/Quelle /mnt/Ziel/ cifs _netdev,nounix,iocharset=utf8,password= 0 0"
[18:52] <bekks> Da fehlt noch das "auto" oder das "defaults".
[18:52] <Mundus> Aha, das verstehe ich nicht, da ich dachte nounix und auto sind nicht kompatibel
[18:52] <bekks> Dann kennst Du auch den Grund für "wird nicht korrekt gemounted".
[18:53] <Mundus> Das ich das nicht verstehe ;) ?
[18:54] <Mundus> Kann die Zeile denn so:
[18:54] <Mundus> "//192.168.100.55/Quelle /mnt/Ziel/ cifs _netdev,auto,nounix,iocharset=utf8,password= 0 0"
[18:54] <Mundus> lauten?
[18:54] <bekks> PRobier es doch aus :)
[18:55] <Mundus> wird gemacht ;)
[18:55] <Mundus> Gibt es einen Befehl zum auskommentieren in fstab ' oder#?
[18:55] <k1l_> #
[18:56] <Mundus> thx
[19:40] <Mundus> funktioniert leider nicht:(
[19:41] <bekks> Funktioniert es, jetzt einfach "mount -a" auszuführen?
[19:42] <Mundus> Das funktionierte vorher auch
[19:42] <Mundus> Ist die andere Lösung den von Nachteil? Oder schlechter?
[19:43] <bekks> Der Lösungsweg war - komisch :)
[19:43] <bekks> /bin/sleep 40 in die rc.local, und darunter dann /bin/mount -a
[19:44] <Mundus> ok:) ich bastel einfach weiter... Du glaubst mit _netdev,auto,nounix,iocharset=utf8,password= müsste es auch funktionieren?
[19:45] <bekks> Ich ging bis gerade eben davon aus, dass du exakt das ausprobiert hast.
[19:45] <Mundus> das habe ich ;)
[19:45] <bekks> Dann verstehe ich deine Frage nicht.
[19:48] <Mundus> Stimmt, die ist an dieser STelle komisch. Ich werde meinen alten Weg beibehalten und danke dir
[20:35] <uni67catX> nach installation sudo apt-get install gksu offne ich dateimanager und bekomme
[20:36] <uni67catX> Ein notwendiger Ordner kann nicht angelegt werden. Bitte erstellen Sie folgenden Ordner oder ändern Sie die Zugriffsrechte so, dass Nautilus ihn anlegen kann: /root/.config/nautilus
[20:36] <uni67catX> was ist damit gemeint?
[20:36] <k1l_> wie lautet das genaue kommando?
[20:36] <k1l_> ich hoffe mal nicht, dass du da als root eingeloggt bist
[20:37] <uni67catX> sudo apt-get install gksu
[20:37] <k1l_> nee, wie du nautilus öffnest
[20:38] <Frickelpit> und was möchtest du mit der aktion bezwecken?
[20:38] <uni67catX> uni67berlin@fnord:~$ gksudo nautilus
[20:38] <k1l_> uni67catX: warum nicht gksu?
[20:38] <uni67catX> UM GOTTES WILLEN bin ich blöd
[20:39] <bekks> So schlimm ist es jetzt nicht - aber warum willst du denn nautilus als root benutzen?
[20:40] <k1l_> und welches ubuntu ist das genau? das sollte eigentlich gefixt sein. nur bei elemtary scheint das noch nicht zu laufen
[20:40] <uni67catX> ich habe ein hintergrundbild gedownload und wollte den in den HGB-Verzeichnis verschieben...
[20:41] <uni67catX> das kann ich tun wenn ich su bin
[20:41] <bekks> Und wozu braucht man dazu nautilus?
[20:41] <bekks> sudo mv ...
[20:41] <k1l_> das ist halt einfach ein kommando im terminal. mit rumklicken biegen die meisten user halt irgendwann falsch ab und dann ist das theater wieder groß
[20:41] <uni67catX> bekks: da bin ich nicht so fit darin
[20:42] <Frickelpit> uni67catX: dann sind solche "Übungen" ein guter Start dies zu ändern ;-)
[20:42] <uni67catX> hat jemanden vielleicht irgendeine hilfe BASH - Toutorium
[20:42] <uni67catX> oder so was
[20:42] <k1l_> im wiki müsste einiges sein
[20:43] <uni67catX> Frickelpit: bin stets bereit mich zu verbessern
[20:44] <uni67catX> k1l_: ich werde mich dort umschauen
[20:44] <k1l_> !shell | uni67catX
[20:44] <k1l_> !shell > uni67catX
[20:44] <kubine> uni67catX: Informationen zu Shell finden sich im Wiki unter http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Shell
[20:45] <uni67catX> k1l_: was bedeutet das: !shell | uni67catX ?
[20:46] <uni67catX> kubine: danke
[20:46] <k1l_> uni67catX: das sagt dem bot er soll dir einen link vom wiki geben.
[20:46] <k1l_> !bot
[20:46] <kubine> k1l_: Ich bin ein Bot. ;-)
[20:47] <uni67catX> aber jetzt ganz ernst
[20:47] <k1l_> !bot > uni67catX
[20:47] <kubine> uni67catX: Ich bin ein Bot. ;-)
[20:48] <uni67catX> gestern habe ich nach lange zeit mit opensuse zu tun gehabt.. toll das es ubuntu gibt.. das ist auch LOB an Euch SUPPORT-ler..
[20:48] <uni67catX> große Klasse
[20:51] <uni67catX> also wann sollte man wenn überhaupt den gksu nutzen?
[20:51] <Frickelpit> am besten gar nicht
[20:52] <uni67catX> soll ich die pakette deinstallieren?
[20:52] <uni67catX> wieso werden sie überhaupt angeboten?
[20:52] <Frickelpit> weil es auch programme gibt, die es benötigen
[20:52] <k1l_> weil einige programm diese benötigen
[20:53] <Frickelpit> gparted z.b.
[20:53] <uni67catX> aber beim DM nutzung von gksu meiden, richtig
[20:53] <k1l_> "warum hat mein auto einen knopf um esp auszustellen?" sicher nicht, damit der normale user immer ohne esp fährt.
[20:54] <bekks> Mit ESP slided man so schlecht ;)
[20:54] <uni67catX> tatsächlich.. meine fabia hat so einen
[20:54] <uni67catX> :-)
[20:55] <Scalp500> Guten Abend. Mein Kernel bekommt ständig PANIC, der Schirm wird Schwarz. Bei Windows würde man das wohl STOP-Fehler nennen...? :(
[20:55] <k1l_> Scalp500: kernel panic ist schon worst case. das ist so wie nen bluescreen
[20:56] <Scalp500> okay, also liegt es an der Hardware?
[20:56] <k1l_> gibt viele möglichkeiten. weißt du denn, wie du das provozieren kannst?
[20:56] <k1l_> du könntest mal einen alten kernel test im grub. oder mal die hardware testen, wie z.b. den ram mit memtest
[20:57] <Scalp500> Sehr oft dann, wenn ich Musik abspiele (acc). Aber vorhin war es auch bei nem einfachen HTML5-YT-Video der Fall.
[20:57] <k1l_> sagt das syslog oder dmesg was dazu?
[20:58] <Scalp500> Ich muss allerdings dazu sagen: Das alte System lief vor Ubuntu reibungsfrei.....
[21:05] <Scalp500> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11610713/
[21:05] <kubine> Scalp500: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[21:05] <uni67catX> was muss ich tun um die neuen gedownloadeten hintergrundbilder bei der neuinstallation nicht komplet zu verlieren?
[21:06] <uni67catX> backup?
[21:06] <uni67catX> in einem /home verzeichnis?
[21:07] <k1l_> Scalp500: hast du nen logitech usb keyboard? :)
[21:08] <Scalp500> Das ist ein Macbook Pro
[21:08] <k1l_> achso
[21:08] <Scalp500> kA welcher Vendor das genau ist.
[21:09] <Scalp500> Bis auf das WLAN lief auch alles, ich habe mir lediglich einen Broadcom Treiber laden müssen
[21:11] <bekks> Scalp500: Hast du irgendwelche USB Geräte angesteckt?
[21:11] <Scalp500> In der Vergangenheit oder als der Blackstreen auftrat?
[21:11] <Scalp500> Blackscreen
[21:11] <bekks> Als die Kernelpanics auftraten.
[21:12] <Scalp500> Nein. Ich habe noch nichtmal Eingaben getätigt, es lief einfach nur YouTube.
[21:14] <Scalp500> Was mir aber aufgefallen ist, sollte an dieser Stelle vllt. auch erwähnt werden: Die Panic kam meine ich erst, nachdem ich die MP3-Erweiterungen usw. installiert und einen uralt-USB-Stick angeschlossen habe.
[21:14] <bekks> MP3-Erweiterungen?
[21:14] <bekks> Wasdas?
[21:15] <k1l_> also doch nen usb stick dran :)
[21:15] <Scalp500> Totem wollte da div. Sachen nachinstallieren, weil ich bei der nackten Install keine Drittanbieter erlaubt habe.
[21:15] <k1l_> ja das werden wohl die codecs gewesen sein.
[21:16] <Scalp500> Ja, allerdings trat der Fehler nun wieder 2x auf - ohne Stick dran.
[21:17] <Scalp500> Seltsamerweise konnte ich mit dem Teil gestern über Stunden problemlos arbeiten.
[21:23] <k1l_> Scalp500: k.a. man findet aber im internet einige mit usb sachen und dem gleichen problem
[21:26] <Scalp500> Okay, würdest du ausschließen, dass es mgl. an dem O-Org-Treiber liegt? Er schlägt mir vor den NVIDIA binary driver zu nutzen. Das Thema ist da allerdings, dass meine Helligkeitsregelung danach nicht mehr funktioniert.
[21:26] <Scalp500> X.Org-X-Server
[23:08] <Scalp500> Guten Morgen. Ich melde mich nochmal zurück... Gerade eben wollte ich Ubuntu aus der Bereitschaft wecken: Erneuter Kernel Panic mit: kernel panic not syncing fatal exception in interrupt
[23:10] <Scalp500> Google spuckt mir zwar einige Einträge aus. Allerdings reichen die von "installier einen anderen Kernel" bis hin zur Änderung sämtlicher Treiber.... Wo soll ich anfangen...
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-se-mote
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[15:36] <gustavwiz> När sker nästa möte?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.936803
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2015-06-06-#kubuntu-se
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[17:12] <Philip5> Flygisoft: har du uppgraderat dina yn-triggers än då eller ligger du efter?!?! ;)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.938389
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-bugs
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[10:44] <cristian_c> penguin42, hello
[10:45] <penguin42> hey
[10:46] <cristian_c> penguin42, I've opened a bug report a year ago
[10:47] <cristian_c> penguin42, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreator/+bug/1326335
[10:50] <cristian_c> penguin42, what have i to do, now?
[10:51] <penguin42> cristian_c: Why did you file it against qtcreator - as far as I can tell that's part of qt4-x11 ?
[10:52] <cristian_c> penguin42, I was told I had to file against qtcreator
[10:52] <cristian_c> so I did that
[10:52] <penguin42> ok
[10:52] <penguin42> cristian_c: Does it still happen on a newer Ubuntu?
[10:53] <cristian_c> penguin42, yeah, it still happens
[10:54] <penguin42> cristian_c: OK, put a note on the bug to say that; to be honest I think you'll have more luck asking on one of the qt channels
[10:55] <cristian_c> penguin42, I was told to file against qtcreator, I was also told if package was wrong, someone would have moved it to the right package
[10:56] <cristian_c> penguin42, in the qt channel I was told it's a distro issue
[10:56] <penguin42> hmm, ok; then it gets tricky - you'll need to find an ubuntu qt packager I think
[10:58] <penguin42> cristian_c: Add a note to the bug to say it still happens on a particular version and also say that upstream says it's a distro issue
[10:59] <cristian_c> penguin42, it happened on 12.04 and it still happens on 14.04
[10:59] <cristian_c> propbably, it will happen on 15.04 too, but I'll try
[11:02] <cristian_c> sorry, I was disconnected frome the server
[11:04] <cristian_c> sorry, I was disconnected from the server
[11:05] <cristian_c> I don't know what was published
[11:05] <penguin42> bouncy bouncy
[11:12] <cristian_c> I was again disconnected, I repeat for the last time , sorry :(
[11:12] <penguin42> no problem
[11:12] <cristian_c> it happened on 12.04 and it still happens on 14.04
[11:12] <cristian_c> it will happen on 15.04 too, but I'll try
[11:12] <cristian_c> it seems a issue related to the gtk+ theme
[11:13] <cristian_c> because with other themes, the bug doesn't happen
[11:13] <cristian_c> with the default theme (gtk+) bug exists
[11:13] <cristian_c> (now, connection is good, only 0.1s lag in xchat)
cristian_c: Add a note to the bug to say it still happens on a particular version and also say that upstream says it's a distro issue
[11:15] <penguin42> yes
[11:15] <cristian_c> penguin42, the qt guy has told me that gtk+ theme is not part of qt
[11:15] <cristian_c> and he told me that ubuntu guys added it
[11:15] <penguin42> cristian_c: I don't understand the details of the way the themes interact - you'll need to find someone who knows that stuff
[11:15] <cristian_c> penguin42, who have I to contact, then?
and he told me that ubuntu guys added it
[11:17] <penguin42> cristian_c: I'm not sure who is best for it, but you need to get lucky to find the people who understand the theme stuff
[11:17] <cristian_c> penguin42, i don't know who created the theme
[11:18] <penguin42> me neither
[11:18] <cristian_c> Can I get info about theme author(s) from the theme?
[11:18] <cristian_c> penguin42, ok
[11:53] <jaco> (synaptic:3987): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_child_watch_add_full: assertion 'pid > 0' failed
[11:53] <jaco> (Reading database ... 893340 files and directories currently installed.)
[11:53] <jaco> Preparing to unpack .../libqtcore4_4%3a4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu4.1_amd64.deb ...
[11:53] <jaco> Unpacking libqtcore4:amd64 (4:4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu4.1) over (4:4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu4) ...
[11:53] <jaco> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libqtcore4_4%3a4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu4.1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[11:53] <jaco> trying to overwrite shared '/etc/xdg/Trolltech.conf', which is different from other instances of package libqtcore4:amd64
[11:54] <jaco> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:54] <jaco> /var/cache/apt/archives/libqtcore4_4%3a4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu4.1_amd64.deb
[11:54] <jaco> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:54] <jaco> A package failed to install. Trying to recover:
[11:54] <Guest79737> its a bug right?
[11:54] <Guest79737> (synaptic:3987): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_child_watch_add_full: assertion 'pid > 0' failed
[11:54] <Guest79737> (Reading database ... 893340 files and directories currently installed.)
[11:54] <Guest79737> Preparing to unpack .../libqtcore4_4%3a4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu4.1_amd64.deb ...
[11:54] <Guest79737> Unpacking libqtcore4:amd64 (4:4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu4.1) over (4:4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu4) ...
[11:54] <Guest79737> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libqtcore4_4%3a4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu4.1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[11:54] <Guest79737> trying to overwrite shared '/etc/xdg/Trolltech.conf', which is different from other instances of package libqtcore4:amd64
[11:54] <Guest79737> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:54] <cristian_c> !paste
[11:54] <Guest79737> /var/cache/apt/archives/libqtcore4_4%3a4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu4.1_amd64.deb
[11:54] <Guest79737> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:54] <Guest79737> A package failed to install. Trying to recover:
[11:54] <cristian_c> Guest79737, use pastebin
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-nz
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[00:14] <ruenoak> afternoon
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-gnome
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[03:02] <LinDol> hi all
[06:59] <lindol> um..
[06:59] <lindol> i am confusing between repositories and archives.
[07:00] <lindol> what is diffent means?
[08:47] <lindol> Korea is pretty hot today. T_T
[09:27] <darkxst> lindol essentially they are the same thing
[09:28] <darkxst> lindol, winter here, so cold instead!
[09:34] <lindol> darkxst, Thank you for your explaination :)
[09:34] <lindol> so I transalted some page haha,
[09:34] <lindol> Winter? wow, :)
[09:35] <darkxst> lindol, yes its that time of year in Australia
[09:36] <lindol> and your time is 8:36 pm?
[09:37] <darkxst> 7.36
[09:38] <lindol> oops. what is your date?
[09:38] <lindol> on Friday?
[09:38] <darkxst> lindol, tomorrow!
[09:38] <lindol> Sorry > _<
[09:53] <lindol> darkxst, Have a great night. :)
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.950134
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"channel": "#ubuntu-gnome"
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-server
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[00:02] <zul> hallyn, ack
[09:44] <ibrahim> hello there, I have a ubuntu server and osticket is installed on it, I want from osticket to send email notifications and for this I have installed postfix but I am not receiving emails.
[09:54] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:55] <NAoH> Hey can anyone give me some help with my server?
[09:56] <lordievader> !ask | NAoH
[09:56] <ibrahim> hello there, I have a ubuntu server and osticket is installed on it, I want from osticket to send email notifications and for this I have installed postfix but I am not receiving emails.
[09:59] <NAoH> I'm trying to set up a LAMP stack. It's on a fresh copy of 14.04, apache is severing, however the websites are only available on other computers in the local network, not via the public IP.
[10:00] <NAoH> I am pretty sure port 80 is forwarded correctly
[10:01] <bekks> NAoH: So what happens when you try to access your site from outside (notfrom inside using the public ip)?
[10:01] <NAoH> "connection refused"
[10:02] <lordievader> NAoH: What is the output of 'nmap -p 80 <public-ip>'?
[10:02] <bekks> NAoH: Are you really trying from outside your network?
[10:03] <NAoH> installing nmap now
[10:03] <NAoH> I'm accessing it via a computer on the local network, with the public IP in the url
[10:04] <bekks> That not going to work.
[10:04] <bekks> You need to access it from _outside_ your network.
[10:04] <NAoH> Nmap:
[10:04] <NAoH> Starting Nmap 6.47 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2015-06-06 10:04 UTC Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -Pn Nmap done: 1 IP address (0 hosts up) scanned in 3.06 seconds
[10:04] <bekks> See above.
[10:05] <lordievader> NAoH: If you have an ip for me I could check for you.
[10:05] <NAoH> Just connected to it via a computer outside of the network, it's defo down
[10:05] <NAoH> 121.208.43.132
[10:05] <NAoH> don'thackmeplz
[10:06] <lordievader> Port 80 is filtered.
[10:08] <NAoH> http://i.imgur.com/YWuNcIU.png
[10:08] <NAoH> do the confs look correct?
[10:09] <lordievader> NAoH: I suppose, does 0.13 run a firewall?
[10:10] <NAoH> well ubuntu is a fresh install, I don't think it comes with prohibitive settings out of the box
[10:11] <NAoH> i'll check through my router. Hosting an Apache server on my windows desktop worked fine. I was able to connect from remote computers
[10:12] <bekks> It comes with prohibitive settings by default :)
[10:13] <NAoH> Good old ubuntu, always has my back haha
[10:13] <NAoH> I tried turning ufw off completely to experiment, is that enough?
[10:13] <NAoH> (because that didn't work)
[10:14] <bekks> Whats the output of "sudo lsof -i | grep apache"?
[10:14] <NAoH> server@UnixServer:~$ sudo lsof -i | grep apache apache2 1067 root 4u IPv6 15797 0t0 TCP *:http (LISTEN) apache2 1070 www-data 4u IPv6 15797 0t0 TCP *:http (LISTEN) apache2 1071 www-data 4u IPv6 15797 0t0 TCP *:http (LISTEN)
[10:14] <lordievader> !paste | NAoH
[10:14] <NAoH> thanks
[10:15] <NAoH> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11602601/
[10:16] <lordievader> It does listen to ipv4 ports right?
[10:16] <RoyK> lordievader: it was only one line ;)
[10:16] <bekks> No, it doesnt listen to IPv4 at all.
[10:16] <lordievader> RoyK: According to his paste, it were 3 lines. My point exactly.
[10:17] <NAoH> No problem, i'll use the paste site for CLI outputs
[10:17] <RoyK> !pastebinit
[10:20] <NAoH> Any idea where I should go from here?
[10:20] <bekks> Configure your webserver to listen to IPv4.
[10:23] <RoyK> sometimes lsof etc only shows the ipv6 socket open, but it may be listening to ipv4 on the same socket. lots of software do just that
[10:23] <RoyK> try to telnet to 127.0.0.1 <port> to check
[10:27] <RoyK> (not 'localhost', because that may mean both 127.0.0.1 and ::1)
[10:28] <NAoH> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11602639/
[10:28] <NAoH> Maybe i entered it in wrong?
[10:29] <RoyK> microsoft telnet?
[10:29] <RoyK> what's the server's ip address?
[10:29] <RoyK> also - better login to the linux server and try from there - to localhost - to see if that works first
[10:29] <RoyK> in case a firewall or something stops it
[10:33] <NAoH> I think it worked
[10:34] <NAoH> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11602670/
[10:34] <NAoH> That's from my ubuntu machine, running telnet to itself at port 80
[10:36] <NAoH> I should explain, I have 2 computers on my network. Linux "server machine" and Windows. The windows machine is a development platform and I want to learn to set up a server so I can experiment with writing web applications.
[10:37] <NAoH> So the linux server will simply be a LAMP server that I just send my web app projects to, and can access on the web.
[10:38] <NAoH> in other words. I'm a little slow to catch up with all of the linux stuff
[10:38] <NAoH> but it's cool as hell
[10:55] <RoyK> NAoH: you connected to ::1 there - try "telnet 127.0.0.1 80"
[10:56] <NAoH> ok
[10:57] <NAoH> Connected no problem
[10:57] <RoyK> good
[10:57] <RoyK> then from windows - telnet into the server's ip address, port 80
[10:58] <bekks> IPv4 address.
[10:59] <RoyK> NAoH: do you have a valid IPv6 address on that linux server?
[10:59] <linuxmint> # blkid
[10:59] <RoyK> linuxmint: ?
[10:59] <linuxmint> Can anyone help me understand and/or fix my disks? I have 4 disks http://dpaste.com/1NAQ2WT, but shows only 1 55GB mounted, but I have no 55GB http://dpaste.com/3GJF8AX, only 120GB?
[11:00] <NAoH> RoyK: I don't know, how do I find out?
[11:00] <bekks> linuxmint: You are using Mint, dont you? :)
[11:00] <RoyK> NAoH: pastebin ip addr list
[11:00] <linuxmint> bekks: this computer is Mint, but my disks issue is using Ubuntu server.
[11:01] <bekks> linuxmint: fdisk isnt recognizing the GPT labels, so use gdisk -l, at first glance.
[11:02] <RoyK> linuxmint: pastebin lsblk output
[11:02] <NAoH> RoyK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11602793/
[11:02] <RoyK> NAoH: nah - no ipv6 there - just a link local address
[11:03] <NAoH> RoyK: How do you mean?
[11:03] <linuxmint> bekks: http://dpaste.com/382PCZQ
[11:03] <RoyK> inet6 fe80::21b:78ff:fe84:823/64 scope link <-- fe80::... is link local
[11:04] <linuxmint> RoyK: http://dpaste.com/0S92EJJ
[11:04] <RoyK> linuxmint: what's on those 120GB drives?
[11:04] <NAoH> Royk: How do I set that up?
[11:05] <linuxmint> RoyK: I installed Proxmox and I thought I set up a RAID on the 4 x 120GB disks, but I don't think it's working?
[11:05] <RoyK> NAoH: don't care about that now - if your ISP hasn't supplied you with IPv6 or your network hardware doesn't support it, it's of little use except experimentation
[11:06] <RoyK> linuxmint: try mdadm --assemble --scan
[11:06] <linuxmint> RoyK: http://dpaste.com/0J17BYS
[11:07] <RoyK> what drives did you use for the raid?
[11:07] <linuxmint> RoyK: I thought I used the 4 x 120GB, but maybe it didn't setup properly.
[11:08] <RoyK> if all 120GB drives, then you might have slightly broken it by installing ubuntu on one of them :P
[11:08] <linuxmint> The issue is a monthly backup took place and filled the disk (says 92% of 55GB?) and now I'm trying to fix the disks.
[11:09] <RoyK> I'd guess trying a manual assembly might work if it's fixable
[11:09] <RoyK> what does /proc/mdstat have to say?
[11:09] <linuxmint> What's a manual assembly? pulling out cables?
[11:10] <RoyK> linuxmint: mdadm --assemble /dev/md{something} /dev/{your,drives}
[11:10] <linuxmint> http://dpaste.com/3SE6N7C
[11:10] <NAoH> RoyK: Do I have to allow the ports via iptables?
[11:10] <RoyK> linuxmint: cat /proc/mdstat
[11:10] <RoyK> NAoH: obviously, yes
[11:10] <RoyK> NAoH: I'd recommend using ufw if you don't need anything special
[11:11] <linuxmint> http://dpaste.com/2WQ7A6E
[11:11] <NAoH> RoyK: Damn, that's not obvious to me. I only just figured out iptables exsisted. What would the command to allow port 80 through?
[11:11] <RoyK> linuxmint: ok - try something like this - mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sd[bcd]3
[11:12] <RoyK> NAoH: pastebin iptables -vnL
[11:12] <RoyK> NAoH: if nothing's blocked, no need to open
[11:12] <NAoH> RoyK: Nothing is blocked, fresh install of ubuntu
[11:13] <RoyK> and telnet <yourip> 80 from windows tells you what?
[11:13] <NAoH> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11602840/
[11:13] <linuxmint> http://dpaste.com/1SN680A
[11:13] <RoyK> linuxmint: not sure, then...
[11:13] <NAoH> RoyK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11602840/**
[11:14] <RoyK> NAoH: all accepted - iptables isn't the issue
[11:14] <RoyK> linuxmint: any data there you haven't backed up?
[11:15] <linuxmint> pretty much all of it, as the backup overfilled the disk, so I had nothing to transfer to a 2nd safe computer.
[11:16] <RoyK> linuxmint: better use something like crashplan.com (or something faster?) next time. a raid isn't backup. it just helps you whenever a disk dies
[11:17] <linuxmint> yes, that's why I had RAID setup. I then auto transferred the backups to a 2nd computer, but due to disk overfill, no backup or transfer.
[11:17] <RoyK> linuxmint: just one thing - looks like you have four 120GB drives where linux is installed on one of them, and then a 500GB drive that's not in use
[11:18] <linuxmint> yes, it's a mess somehow.
[11:19] <RoyK> linuxmint: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1947275
[11:19] <RoyK> some of that might work, but it may also ruin what's left
[11:19] <linuxmint> is this the right link? https://www.code42.com/crashplan/
[11:19] <RoyK> yep
[11:19] <linuxmint> k
[11:20] <RoyK> linuxmint: crashplan.com is ok, but make sure you disable deduplication - if not, it renders more or less worthless when you get closer to 1TB of data
[11:21] <RoyK> I moved to crashplan.no - norwegian reseller with local servers - *far* faster, but a bit more expensive
[11:22] <RoyK> linuxmint: I hope that data isn't too valuable :P
[11:22] <linuxmint> RoyK: I can rebuild the whole lot, but it will take a while. I woudl prefer not to. there must be a way of seeing what the error is and working it?
[11:23] <RoyK> usually --assemble should work
[11:23] <RoyK> but if it can't find the superblock, you'll have to try to recreate it with --assume-clean in which you'll need the correct order and layout of the raid
[11:25] <linuxmint> k, sounds tricky. I'll work through that link 1st.
[11:25] <RoyK> linuxmint: never had to do that myself - only tried it in the lab - been using mdraid for some years (10+), though, without much issues
[11:32] <linuxmint> k, hopefully this is the problem. I think if I just empty the disk a bit, I could run a backup.
[11:33] <RoyK> linuxmint: If you can access the data, get it off to somewhere, maybe crashplan, maybe elsewhere. Then recreate the RAID somewhat more sane. You have four 120GB drives - perhaps using these ones in a RAID-5 could do, with the root on a small partition the 500GB drive or perhaps even on a pendrive
[11:33] <RoyK> ?
[11:38] <linuxmint> yes, I just finished installing CrashPlan.
[11:39] <RoyK> what sort of raid layout did you have before this crashed?
[11:40] <linuxmint> I can't remember.
[11:41] <linuxmint> It seems I didn't setup a RAID according to the # mdadm --assemble --scan command.
[11:41] <RoyK> what does pvs tell you?
[11:42] <RoyK> may have been some lvm raid
[11:42] <RoyK> or proxmox? zfs?
[11:42] <linuxmint> http://dpaste.com/2W5AEA0
[11:42] <RoyK> I saw something about zfs being supported
[11:43] <RoyK> linuxmint: So you installed proxmox and setup a RAID and then reinstalled with ubuntu, right?
[11:43] <linuxmint> Yes, I'm a bit confused now, as I started looking at how to fix up the backups, with either Proxmox ZFS or NAS4Free.
[11:43] <linuxmint> Now I'm working through CrashPlan, so I have 4 options in my head.
[11:43] <RoyK> never mind backup until you can access the data
[11:43] <linuxmint> k
[11:43] <RoyK> zfs isn't installed by default on ubuntu
[11:44] <RoyK> there's fuse zfs, ok for reading and getting data off the drives, but sucks at i/o, and there's zfsonlinux, separate repos
[11:44] <linuxmint> I tried to install zfs, but I don't think I succeeded.
[11:44] <RoyK> I use zfsonlinux, but wouldn't recommend it if you need flexibility, as in adding another drive to increase storage
[11:44] <linuxmint> It might be installed, but not configured.
[11:45] <RoyK> try 'zpool status' and 'zpool import'
[11:46] <RoyK> actually, the partition layout looks like zfs
[11:46] <RoyK> (or perhaps not)
[11:47] <RoyK> anyway - does zpool status has anything to say?
[11:47] <linuxmint> -bash: zpool: command not found
[11:47] <RoyK> apt-get install zfs # or something
[11:47] <RoyK> debian-zfs, perhaps
[11:47] <RoyK> that's the fuse zfs - should do
[11:48] <RoyK> at least, it should show you if something's there
[11:48] <linuxmint> -bash: debian-zfs: command not found
[11:48] <linuxmint> I guess not installed.
[11:48] <RoyK> apt-get install zfs-fuse
[11:48] * RoyK had to check on an ubuntu box
[11:48] * RoyK usually uses debian on servers these days :P
[11:50] <linuxmint> k, # zpool status. no pools available.
[11:51] <RoyK> zpool import
[11:52] <linuxmint> yes, # zpool import. # zpool status. no pools available.
[11:53] <RoyK> no output from zpool import?
[11:53] <linuxmint> yes, no output.
[11:53] <RoyK> perhaps zpool import -D ?
[11:54] <RoyK> (without the ?)
[11:54] <linuxmint> yes, also no output.
[11:54] <RoyK> ok - then I have no idea where your data went
[11:55] <linuxmint> yes, the data is still there as it's running.
[11:55] <RoyK> oh
[11:55] <RoyK> then get it off the drives
[11:56] <RoyK> and reinstall on something sane :)
[11:56] <linuxmint> lol
[11:56] <linuxmint> lol/cry
[11:57] <RoyK> no reason to cry if you can still access the data
[11:59] <RoyK> if someone can lend you a portable drive, say 1TB, that'll probably be the easiest - crashplan tends to be slow
[11:59] <linuxmint> yes, but not sure if I can get the data off the drive, as the disk says 92% of 55GB. That means I can't run a backup. I think I'll need to look for the data (a vz file), then scp or something?
[12:00] <RoyK> I don't quite follow you
[12:00] <linuxmint> well, I setup a 2nd computer with NAS4Free, but haven't figured it out yet.
[12:00] <RoyK> you didn't have anything on that RAID?
[12:00] <RoyK> those 50GB shouldn't be a problem
[12:01] <linuxmint> well, the RAID apparently doesn't exist. There's the data of a few VMs I'll need to file where they're at.
[12:02] <RoyK> kvm? virtualbox? xen?
[12:05] <linuxmint> I think it's a kvm.
[12:06] <RoyK> then /var/lib/libvirt/images/
[12:07] <linuxmint> http://dpaste.com/0XX9DD8
[12:09] <RoyK> no libvirt there - don't you even know which hypervisor you were using?
[12:10] <linuxmint> I need to look it up.
[12:12] <linuxmint> Proxmox vE
[12:12] <linuxmint> VE
[12:13] <RoyK> no idea
[12:13] <linuxmint> k
[12:13] <RoyK> I'd suggest you start over - your data may be busted
[12:17] <linuxmint> hmm, I might look for the files of the VMs atleast, so I don't have to rebuild the VMs.
[12:17] <linuxmint> Really 4 x 120GB Intel SSDs should be as reliable as it gets.
[12:24] <RoyK> thing is, you've installed ubuntu on one of them, not the 500GB drive
[12:24] <RoyK> so you've possibly messed up the raid
[12:25] <linuxmint> likely.
[12:29] <RoyK> if you were to reinstall, I'd suggest doing so on the 500GB drive and using the SSDs for a RAID-5, giving you 360GB
[12:29] <RoyK> should suffice on iops for even large databases
[12:29] <RoyK> and you never want to trust a single drive, at least not an SSD
[14:14] <NAoH> Hey
[14:14] <NAoH> any idea why my apache server will broadcast to the web on port 8080 but not 80 when my windows server will broadcast to 80?
[14:16] <bekks> Because you configured it like that?
[14:16] <bekks> Apache doesnt broadcast at all.
[14:16] <NAoH> I'm probably using the wrong terms
[14:18] <NAoH> But I spent the last day trying to figure out why I couldn't access the website on my freshly installed ubuntu + lamp through my public IP. I had port 80 forwarded and everything, I just set apaches listening port to 8080 and I could access my IP with :8080 after the IP
[14:19] <Patrickdk> consult the firewall
[14:20] <Patrickdk> this includes any firewalls your isp is using
[14:20] <NAoH> According to the ISP, they aren't blocking any ports
[14:21] <NAoH> I don't think ubuntu-server has a firewall that blocks port 80 by default, right?
[14:22] <bekks> Belief is a good thing for a church, how about checking your firewall to be sure?
[14:26] <Patrickdk> "I had port 80 forwarded and everything" == firewall
[14:26] <Patrickdk> so that is atleast one firewall we know about
[14:26] <Patrickdk> did you have apache on port 80?
[14:26] <melbaubuntu> Hey guys i have setup my vsftpd server and now i would like to organize my index.php/html.php with filezilla. Anyone any ideas how and where to locate it?
[14:26] <Patrickdk> and forwarded your firewall correctly to port 80?
[14:27] <melbaubuntu> i mean index.php/index.html
[14:55] <NAoH> bekks: How do I check my firewall?
[14:57] <bekks> How did you until now?
[15:01] <NAoH> # iptables -L
[15:04] <bekks> iptables -L -vnx
[15:06] <NAoH> There are no arguments in any of the fields
[15:31] <jpds> NAoH: sudo iptables-save
[20:18] <lalops> Direct download links/forum attatchments SEO ANALYZER SCRIPT: ATTATCHMENT FOUND: http://www.websiteadverts.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=17 WEBSITE WORTH CALCULATOR SCRIPT: http://www.websiteadverts.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=16
[20:18] <lalops> Direct download links/forum attatchments SEO ANALYZER SCRIPT: ATTATCHMENT FOUND: http://www.websiteadverts.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=17 WEBSITE WORTH CALCULATOR SCRIPT: http://www.websiteadverts.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=16
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-ci-eng
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[12:30] <kgunn> trainguards can you reconfigure silo 4 ? changing back to dual landing....again
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:37.969302
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-si
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[02:28] <jabuk> M 1.2 > 12.km JZ od KOBARIDA @05/06/2015 21:50:39 https://maps.google.com/?q=46.15+N,+13.51+E
[03:35] <mcsaban> ?
[05:25] <zdobbie> GUTEN MORGEN SOVA
[05:26] <idioterna> ohai
[05:26] <idioterna> o ooo.
[05:27] <zdobbie> good morning, the complicit one!
[07:06] <yang> .vreme lj
[07:06] <jabuk> ARSO: Ljubljana (299m): 21°C @06.06.2015 6:00 UTC.
[07:06] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 76% severovzhodnik 0.9 m/s pretežno jasno
[07:06] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 03:13:46, Kulminacija: 11:01:51, Sončni zahod: 18:49:56
[07:06] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 15ur 36min 10s, Luna je v ščipu
[08:45] <CrazyLemon> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.polipoli.kdobokoga2
[08:45] <Seniorita> Kdo bo Koga – Android-Apps auf Google Play
[11:37] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_sLTe6-7SE
[11:37] <Seniorita> Falling Back to Earth | HD Footage From Space - YouTube
[11:37] <Seniorita> »A GoPro inside a fairing from a recent Falcon 9 flight captured some spectacular views as it fell back to Earth. Footage is played in real time. Music: Blue ...«
[11:46] <zdobbie> wat en 2001 rip-off
[11:51] <CrazyLemon> ne laži.. takrat še ni bilo goprojev
[11:53] <idioterna> a v 60s
[11:54] <idioterna> mene zanima zakaj reentryja ne pokazejo
[11:54] <idioterna> also
[11:54] <idioterna> dons sm posnel
[11:54] <idioterna> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8LLYFELMmY
[11:54] <Seniorita> None Left Alive - YouTube
[13:29] <CrazyLemon> idioterna verjetno zato ker gopro ni preživel reentryja?
[13:29] <idioterna> i'd love to see it burn, then
[13:29] <idioterna> microsd kartica ga ocitno je :)
[13:30] <CrazyLemon> idioterna mogoče so shareali stream prek satelitov!
[13:31] <idioterna> verjetn ja
[13:40] <zdobbie> well buy a better GoPro, ya dummies
[13:55] <zdobbie> http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2015/05/ttip-explained-the-secretive-us-eu-treaty-that-undermines-democracy/
[13:55] <Seniorita> TTIP explained: The secretive US-EU treaty that undermines democracy | Ars Technica UK
[13:55] <Seniorita> »A boost for national economies, or a Trojan Horse for corporations?«
[13:58] <CrazyLemon> summary pls
[14:07] <zdobbie> u done messed up
[14:40] <napsy_> dan
[14:40] <napsy_> mam en cudn problem z docker
[14:55] <upd> a ne dela
[14:55] <upd> a a a
[14:56] <napsy_> um
[14:56] <napsy_> dela, sam pol zacne na polno read operacija izvajat
[14:56] <napsy_> loop0 device
[14:56] <napsy_> tam okol 20mb/s
[14:57] <napsy_> za rpi2 z sd kartico je to dost obremenitev
[14:58] <upd> bug :p
[14:59] <napsy_> nevm ka je to
[15:07] <CrazyLemon> .rt
[15:07] <jabuk> Trenutno se predvaja: Nneka - My Love, My Love.
[15:12] <zdobbie> m'luv m'luv
[17:15] <CrazyLemon> .vreme koper
[17:15] <jabuk> ARSO: Koper Kapitanija (4m): 26.8°C @06.06.2015 17:00 UTC.
[17:15] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 74% zahodnik 4.8 m/s
[17:15] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 03:18:52, Kulminacija: 11:05:07, Sončni zahod: 18:51:21
[17:15] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 15ur 32min 29s, Luna je v ščipu
[17:15] <CrazyLemon> pfft
[17:15] <CrazyLemon> lies all lies
[17:16] <CrazyLemon> .morje
[17:16] <jabuk> Postaja Koper - kapitanija - Jadransko morje: 25.6°C
[17:16] <jabuk> Postaja Debeli Rtič (Zora) - Jadransko morje: 23.8°C
[17:16] <jabuk> Postaja OB Piran (NIB) - Jadransko morje: 23.6°C
[18:21] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4Geq8dM13k
[18:21] <Seniorita> The Emperor's New Clothes Trailer - A Russell Brand & Michael Winterbottom film - YouTube
[18:21] <Seniorita> »Watch the film In Cinemas and On Demand Now: http://scnl.co/TENCBookNow Fairytale, allegorical 1. Collective ignorance of an obvious fact, or deception, desp...«
[21:21] <CrazyLemon> svašta ta folk.. ob cesti na polnem parkirišču so si prinesli stole, sedijo in pijejo
[21:21] <CrazyLemon> ob cesti..like..10cm stran
[21:41] <yang> kaj proslavljajo odprtje predora !
[21:42] <yang> no pa lahko noc !
[21:47] <CrazyLemon> http://speedof.me/
[21:47] <Seniorita> SpeedOf.Me, HTML5 Speed Test | Non Flash/Java Broadband Speed Test
[21:47] <Seniorita> »SpeedOf.Me is an HTML5 Internet speed test. No Flash or Java needed! It is the smartest and most accurate online bandwidth test. It works well on iPhone, iPad, Android, Windows 8 and other mobile devices, as well as desktop computers.«
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-africa
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[06:20] <Kilos> morning africa
[07:39] <Kilos> whew cold here elacheche_anis
[07:43] <elacheche_anis> Keep yourself warm Kilos :)
[07:43] <Kilos> hehe
[08:05] <elacheche_anis> Kilos, do you think about initiating a meeting soon here?
[08:07] <elacheche_anis> A 1h meeting to "officially" kickoff the Team :) presenting the Goals, the status and the ToDo List.. And maybe having a monthly meeting to check the ToDo Lists status (thinking about the same for my loco)
[08:07] <Kilos> then you will have another bot to learn
[08:08] <Kilos> we can do it , neo was keen to have a meeting but he is missing in action
[08:09] <elacheche_anis> looool.. Nope :D You're the chair :p :D You're the "founder" and you're like a godfather" for all of us :)
[08:09] <Kilos> haha the godfather gets others to do the work
[08:10] <elacheche_anis> Kilos, Will have many persons like Neo31, maybe myself included in some times.. But we should find out a way to keep the Team running without any dependencies to people :)
[08:10] <Kilos> ill ask inetpro if the bot is setup to do minutes and everything
[08:10] <elacheche_anis> But he lead them all :p
[08:10] <Kilos> lets see what it can do
[08:10] <elacheche_anis> Or we can ask for meetingology to be here :) :p
[08:10] <Kilos> i dont remember the commands mostly
[08:11] <Kilos> QA start meeting
[08:11] * QA gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles
[08:12] <Kilos> QA agreed First meeting to be held soon
[08:12] <QA> Agreed: First meeting to be held soon
[08:12] <Kilos> QA end meeting
[08:12] <QA> Meeting Ended
[08:12] <Kilos> see it has to be setup to record minutes
[08:13] <elacheche_anis> Nice :D Am not saying that we should get the meeting this week :D we need to plan a meeting :) :D
[08:13] <Kilos> didnt you watch the one in za channel, it records and gives links etc at the end automatically
[08:13] <elacheche_anis> Nope.. Was very tired couldn't understand a bit
[08:14] <Kilos> ok attend the za meet on the 23rd and watch
[08:14] <Kilos> inetpro will chair it i think
[08:15] <Kilos> mark it in your calender so you dont get too tired that day
[08:18] <Kilos> you not allowed to be away like neo
[08:19] <Kilos> QA help meeting
[08:19] <QA> Kilos: Take minutes of an IRC Meeting. You can use it like this:
[08:19] <QA> (start | end) meeting [about <title>]
[08:19] <QA> I am <True Name>
[08:19] <QA> topic <topic>
[08:19] <QA> (agreed | idea | accepted | rejected) <statement>
[08:19] <QA> minutes so far
[08:19] <QA> meeting title is <title>
[08:21] <elacheche_anis> That'll be during Ramadhan :D Don't know yet if I'll be @home near my PC or @ the mosque
[08:22] <Kilos> ok thats fine, i will still be here daily
[08:22] <Kilos> you should also try get all the tunisia peeps to join here
[08:23] <Kilos> your brother gave up already
[08:23] <Kilos> kick him
[08:28] <Kilos> see, you must also work out a date so a meeting doesnt interfere with religious times
[08:28] <elacheche_anis> When I can convince them to join #ubuntu-tn I'll convince them to be here :) My bro is finishing he's graduation internship and stuff, so he's not online :)
[08:28] <Kilos> lol ok
[08:29] <elacheche_anis> Kilos, :D All Ramadhan Day is a relegious time :D So I need just to re-manage my day during the first days of ramadhan, then will talk about that :) :D
[08:30] <Kilos> cool, there isnt a rush for a meeting
[08:30] <elacheche_anis> :D
[08:30] <Kilos> :D
[08:30] <elacheche_anis> A new interviewer :) → ahoneybun :D
[08:32] <elacheche_anis> When you see him around encourage him :) He's just young and shy.. I was feeling that way when I was young in the community, without the help of older guys I couldn't made it to this :)
[08:32] <Kilos> i encourage everyone
[13:16] <elacheche_anis> o/ again :)
[13:16] <Kilos> o/
[19:31] <elacheche_anis> Kilos, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2015/05/29/community-council-statement-jonathan-riddell/
[19:32] <Kilos> lemme see
[19:34] <Kilos> yes i followed most of it, i wish they will sort it as he does kde
[19:41] <elacheche_anis> yep
[19:46] <Kilos> so sad that
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-vn
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[14:22] <CoconutCrab> wingadium: có doku rồi
[14:22] <CoconutCrab> nhưng chưa public thôi
[14:23] <wingadium> uh huh
[14:23] <CoconutCrab> để gửi sớm cho
[14:23] <CoconutCrab> :3
[14:23] <CoconutCrab> căn bản nà doku -> reg cần email -> chưa send được confirmation email :3
[14:24] <MrTuxHdb> email còn phải set reverse DNS nữa
[14:24] <MrTuxHdb> domain map vào
[14:24] <MrTuxHdb> ip blacklist thì cũng thôi
[14:24] <MrTuxHdb> :3
[14:24] <MrTuxHdb> replay qua gmail thì dùng tài khoản nào?
[14:24] <CoconutCrab> giờ cái email của ubuntu-vn vẫn dùng gapps nhỉ
[14:24] <lewtds> wingadium: bảo MrTuxHdb lập cho cái tk dùng tạm
[14:24] <MrTuxHdb> :3
[14:24] <CoconutCrab> nó có tèo không?
[14:24] <MrTuxHdb> CoconutCrab: không
[14:24] <MrTuxHdb> dùng thừ thời free
[14:24] <MrTuxHdb> nên vẫn có 50 account mà
[14:24] <lewtds> dùng luôn smtp của [email protected] gì đấy = )
[14:24] <CoconutCrab> thế thì làm cái script bắn sang kia nhỉ
[14:24] <CoconutCrab> ờ
[14:25] <CoconutCrab> thế thì đi lôi cái hòm mail đó ra xem thế nào
[14:25] <MrTuxHdb> lewtds: xài [email protected] luôn
[14:25] <MrTuxHdb> sợ gì
[14:25] <MrTuxHdb> :3
[14:25] <wingadium> lol
[14:25] <CoconutCrab> vẫn còn cái hòm ubuntu-vn
[14:27] <CoconutCrab> okay, lôi ra
[14:27] <CoconutCrab> 1 năm nay chưa có spam
[14:27] <CoconutCrab> :3
[14:30] <MrTuxHdb> CoconutCrab: cái gapps ubuntu-vn
[14:30] <MrTuxHdb> hình như Trúc nó quản lý
[14:30] <MrTuxHdb> hay khanhpt ấy
[14:30] <CoconutCrab> Trúc
[14:30] <MrTuxHdb> mặc định không biết đã map sang gmail chưa
[14:30] <MrTuxHdb> đang để ở gmail email
[14:31] <MrTuxHdb> nameserver là canonical
[14:31] <MrTuxHdb> =))
[14:31] <MrTuxHdb> ubuntu-vn.org. 21599 IN NS ns1.canonical.com.
[14:31] <MrTuxHdb> ubuntu-vn.org. 21599 IN NS ns2.canonical.com.
[14:31] <MrTuxHdb> ubuntu-vn.org. 21599 IN NS ns3.canonical.com.
[14:32] <CoconutCrab> uh huh
[14:40] <vubuntor905> chao moi nguoi
[14:40] <vubuntor905> cho hoi co ai biet cach bao mat tren ubuntu desktop k
[14:40] <MrTuxHdb> định nghĩa "bảo mật"?
[14:40] <vubuntor905> anti ddos
[14:40] <vubuntor905> hacking
[14:41] <MrTuxHdb> DDOS không *anti* được
[14:41] <CoconutCrab> ddos đỡ kiểu gì được
[14:41] <vubuntor905> :D ddos do bang phan cung :D
[14:41] <vubuntor905> block ip country khong can thiet
[14:41] <vubuntor905> :P
[14:41] <CoconutCrab> đỡ bằng phần cứng hử
[14:41] <MrTuxHdb> *hacking* = ???
[14:41] <vubuntor905> firewall
[14:42] <CoconutCrab> nó nốc cho 20 gb/s
[14:42] <CoconutCrab> đỡ bằng răng?
[14:42] <MrTuxHdb> CoconutCrab: bèo
[14:42] <MrTuxHdb> :3
[14:42] <CoconutCrab> okay, nhân 100 lần lên đi
[14:42] <MrTuxHdb> Radware đỡ được hết
[14:42] <CoconutCrab> bw bị bóp hết rồi
[14:42] <CoconutCrab> thì user thường cũng khỏi vào?
[14:42] <MrTuxHdb> CoconutCrab: DDOS lớn nhất lịch sử mới có hơn 100Gbps thôi
[14:42] <MrTuxHdb> =))
[14:42] <CoconutCrab> CPU thì chả lo
[14:42] <vubuntor905> :D noi vay sao nhieu website co bao gio thay bi ddos down dau
[14:42] <vubuntor905> :D
[14:42] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor905: thì nghèo
[14:42] <MrTuxHdb> có thế thôi
[14:42] <MrTuxHdb> :3
[14:43] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor905: đường có 3m
[14:43] <MrTuxHdb> mang ô tô tải vào
[14:43] <MrTuxHdb> thêm cả container
[14:43] <MrTuxHdb> đỡ bằng mắt
[14:43] <MrTuxHdb> :3
[14:43] <vubuntor905> tom lai moi nguoi co huong dan hay sach nao de minh su dung desktop ubuntu giam toi thieu bi tan cong khong?
[14:44] <lewtds> desktop thì lo gì?
[14:44] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor905: giờ đếu ai tấn công kiểu kia nữa đâu
[14:44] <CoconutCrab> .g ubuntu security hardening
[14:44] <SuperLuserv3> CoconutCrab: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security
[14:44] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor905: nó dụ bạn xem ảnh lộ hàng
[14:44] <CoconutCrab> ^ kìa
[14:44] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor905: bạn click cái
[14:44] <MrTuxHdb> xong
[14:44] <vubuntor905> thanks de minh xem
[14:44] <lewtds> btw, bạn nên gõ tiếng Việt có dấu
[14:44] <lewtds> https://github.com/Ubuntu-VN/wiki/wiki/G%C3%B5-ti%E1%BA%BFng-Vi%E1%BB%87t
[14:44] <MrTuxHdb> trym cò lên hết server
[14:44] <MrTuxHdb> =))
[14:44] <SuperLuserv3> [ Gõ tiếng Việt · Ubuntu-VN/wiki Wiki · GitHub ] - github.com
[14:44] * MrTuxHdb thấy vubuntor905 chắc lại đang đồ án?
[14:45] <MrTuxHdb> à
[14:45] <MrTuxHdb> mà tháng 6 rồi
[14:45] <MrTuxHdb> chắc hết đồ án rồi
[14:45] <MrTuxHdb> =))
[14:46] <vubuntor905> bà con cho hỏi tại sao bên vn tụi mình không có cái kiểu tạo tuts hướng dẫn nhĩ?
[14:46] <CoconutCrab> tạo đầy ra
[14:46] <CoconutCrab> thiếu gì đâu
[14:47] <MrTuxHdb> :3
[14:47] <vubuntor905> cũ không ah bạn ơi
[14:47] <CoconutCrab> thì ít người dùng
[14:47] <vubuntor905> ubuntu ver mới nhiều cái thay đổi
[14:47] <CoconutCrab> người ta viết xong không cập nhật thôi
[14:47] <CoconutCrab> ví dụ bạn đang nghiên cứu cái security này
[14:47] <vubuntor905> dân lơ tơ mơ mới vào thì chỉ có bó tay
[14:47] <CoconutCrab> nghiên cứu xong bạn có viết hay bổ sung viết tài liệu không?
[14:48] <lewtds> hội này đang build cái wiki vừa ném link cho bạn đấy
[14:48] <vubuntor905> có chứ
[14:48] <MrTuxHdb> người bình thường cần gì món sờ cu đấy
[14:48] <vubuntor905> thanks lewtd
[14:48] <MrTuxHdb> mà làm sờ cu thì ref tiếng anh cho rồi
[14:48] <lewtds> yup
[14:48] <lewtds> cái đó đọc tiếng Việt thì sao cập nhật được
[14:48] <vubuntor905> hihi tv vẫn tốt hơn
[14:48] <CoconutCrab> ờm
[14:48] <vubuntor905> vn mình mù av mà
[14:49] <CoconutCrab> nhưng gõ được tiếng việt đã
[14:49] <CoconutCrab> giờ ubuntu vẫn có gõ được tiếng việt đâu
[14:49] <vubuntor905> có mà
[14:49] <vubuntor905> ủa bạn cho mình hỏi
[14:50] <vubuntor905> ufw và iptables là 1 mà ta
[14:50] <MrTuxHdb> không
[14:50] <CoconutCrab> cái cơ chế của nó là netfilter
[14:50] <MrTuxHdb> không phải là 1
[14:50] <vubuntor905> ufw chạy dựa vào iptabes
[14:50] <CoconutCrab> iptables là cái nằm trên
[14:50] <vubuntor905> ah
[14:50] <lewtds> ufw là user-friendly interface cho iptables
[14:50] <CoconutCrab> ufw là 1 cái giúp iptables dễ dùng hơn
[14:50] <vubuntor905> uh nhưng mà nó lại không work như mong muốn
[14:50] <vubuntor905> vd nha
[14:50] <lewtds> ntn?
[14:50] <CoconutCrab> thì dùng iptables thôi
[14:51] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor905: ví dụ đi
[14:51] <MrTuxHdb> :3
[14:51] <vubuntor905> chặn ip nước ngoài ma nó vào ầm ầm
[14:51] <MrTuxHdb> sai
[14:51] <lewtds> chắc rule chưa được apply
[14:51] <MrTuxHdb> vì đơn giản là bạn chặn không hết được ip
[14:51] <vubuntor905> chặn bằng iptables thì lại ok
[14:51] <CoconutCrab> làm cho cty à?
[14:51] <MrTuxHdb> thứ 2 là rules có thể chưa đúng thứ tự
[14:52] <CoconutCrab> oh
[14:52] <CoconutCrab> strange
[14:52] <vubuntor905> uh có lẽ bạn nói đúng
[14:52] <lewtds> thôi /me dựa cột nghe MrTuxHdb
[14:52] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor905: countryblock
[14:52] <MrTuxHdb> nó cũng chỉ tương đối thôi
[14:52] <vubuntor905> uh
[14:52] <MrTuxHdb> thằng Maxmind pro
[14:52] <MrTuxHdb> may ra còn có tí chính xác
[14:52] <MrTuxHdb> còn free ip country block
[14:52] <CoconutCrab> tốt nhất là chỉ allow trong nước
[14:52] <MrTuxHdb> mơ hồ lắm
[14:52] <CoconutCrab> còn lại thằng nước ngoài deny hết
[14:53] <MrTuxHdb> server của mình DC ở HK
[14:53] <MrTuxHdb> nhưng Ip toàn SG
[14:53] <MrTuxHdb> =]]
[14:53] <vubuntor905> =]]
[14:54] <vubuntor905> thấy tụi nó build firewall pfsense cũng ok lắm
[14:54] <MrTuxHdb> pfsense là FreeBSD
[14:54] <vubuntor905> nhưng nghe đâu Snor bị hacked =))
[14:54] <MrTuxHdb> ếu phải Linux
[14:54] <MrTuxHdb> pfsense chạy pf
[14:54] <MrTuxHdb> không phải netfilter
[14:54] <CoconutCrab> vubuntor905: nghiên cứu cái này vì công việc?
[14:54] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor905: Snor =?
[14:54] <vubuntor905> uh bạn có bí kiếp nào hông share với
[14:55] <CoconutCrab> hông, hỏi anh gờ gờ thôi
[14:55] <vubuntor905> snor free ver mà chứ đâu pay ver đâu
[14:55] <MrTuxHdb> snor là cái gì?
[14:55] <MrTuxHdb> snort?
[14:55] <MrTuxHdb> đm
[14:55] <vubuntor905> =]]
[14:56] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor905: sysad kiểu đếu gì thế
[14:56] <MrTuxHdb> không phân biệt được snort với snor à
[14:56] <vubuntor905> viết lẹ quá mất chữ
[14:56] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor905: lẹ 2 lần?
[14:56] <MrTuxHdb> lolz
[14:56] <vubuntor905> ủa bạn Ubuntu ra ver 15 rồi
[14:56] <MrTuxHdb> snort là engine thôi
[14:56] <vubuntor905> sao ra hoài vậy
[14:56] <MrTuxHdb> bộ rules của nó mới quan trọng
[14:56] <CoconutCrab> mắn thì đẻ nhiều
[14:56] <MrTuxHdb> chứ engine chỉ có khác nhau về performance
[14:56] <vubuntor905> uh huh
[14:57] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor905: bạn bảo snort bị hacked?
[14:57] <MrTuxHdb> hack như nào
[14:57] <MrTuxHdb> chém gió cho vui à/
[14:57] <vubuntor905> uh vừa bị tháng 2 vừa rồi
[14:57] <vubuntor905> bạn vao Youtube
[14:57] <MrTuxHdb> snort là IDS
[14:57] <vubuntor905> có đăng
[14:57] <MrTuxHdb> nó chỉ cảnh báo
[14:57] <MrTuxHdb> đâu có block gì?
[14:57] <MrTuxHdb> muốn có IPS thì nó phải kết hợp với pfsense
[14:57] <vubuntor905> ý là không có gì tuyệt đối
[14:57] <MrTuxHdb> chưa kể
[14:58] <MrTuxHdb> snort là nó ở mức network
[14:58] <vubuntor905> học hoài chẳng thấy khôn
[14:58] <MrTuxHdb> không phải ở mức hosts
[14:58] <MrTuxHdb> nên nó chặn threat ở mức khác nhau
[14:58] <MrTuxHdb> chứ giờ web bạn thủng
[14:58] <MrTuxHdb> đổ tại pfsense làm bạn bị hack
[14:58] <MrTuxHdb> nực cười!
[14:58] <vubuntor905> uh bạn MrTuxHdb có vẻ hiểu sâu sắc
[14:58] <CoconutCrab> 'có vẻ' :3
[14:59] <lewtds> MrTuxHdb: calm down :3
[14:59] <vubuntor905> =]]
[14:59] <lewtds> let's all work together to find the common truth
[14:59] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor905: nếu bạn vào đây nói đùa cho vui
[14:59] <vubuntor905> that's right :)
[14:59] <MrTuxHdb> thì đừng thảo luận nghiên túc
[15:00] <CoconutCrab> :3
[15:00] <MrTuxHdb> còn thảo luận nghiêm túc thì đừng đùa
[15:00] <MrTuxHdb> nghe thốn lắm
[15:00] <CoconutCrab> thôi cứ nhẹ nhàng
[15:00] <CoconutCrab> có gì đâu
[15:00] <CoconutCrab> người ta cũng chả có ác ý gì
[15:00] <vubuntor905> a đù nói rất đàng hoàng đấy chứ
[15:00] <vubuntor905> tại không hiểu nên hỏi thôi
[15:01] <vubuntor905> anyway thanks mọi ng đã chia sẽ
[15:01] <vubuntor905> :D
[15:01] <vubuntor905> 9day
[15:01] <vubuntor905> bye
[15:01] <MrTuxHdb> 21:54 < vubuntor905> thấy tụi nó build firewall pfsense cũng ok lắm
[15:01] <MrTuxHdb> 21:55 < vubuntor905> nhưng nghe đâu Snor bị hacked =))
[15:01] <MrTuxHdb> vl thanh niên
[15:01] <CoconutCrab> người ta chưa biết thôi mà
[15:01] <lewtds> yup
[15:01] <MrTuxHdb> Snor
[15:01] <MrTuxHdb> =))
[15:02] <lewtds> hiểu lầm, mới đọc sơ sơ,...
[15:02] <MrTuxHdb> đm nó chứ nói bị hacked như thể hiểu lắm ấy
[15:02] <lewtds> mình có thể point hắn tới tài liệu cụ thể hơn
[15:02] <MrTuxHdb> không có base
[15:02] <MrTuxHdb> point nó cũng thế
[15:03] <MrTuxHdb> 21:51 < vubuntor905> chặn ip nước ngoài ma nó vào ầm ầm
[15:03] <MrTuxHdb> ^
[15:03] <CoconutCrab> thì nói để người ta có hướng mà phát triển thôi
[15:03] <CoconutCrab> mà đọc tiếp*
[15:27] * wingadium vẫn không hiểu vụ doku là như thế nào :( lewtds MrTuxHdb
[15:28] <lewtds> dokuwiki là một cái wiki cài trên máy chủ của mình
[15:28] <lewtds> nhưng MrTuxHdb chưa setup xong nên chưa tự đăng ký tài khoản được
[15:28] <wingadium> à à
[15:28] <wingadium> rồi
[15:33] <wingadium> tạm thời cứ edit trên wiki github đã, lúc nào doku xong thì sang đó làm
[15:37] <CoconutCrab> yup yup :3
[16:06] <wingadium> bao giờ xong báo /me biết nhé
[16:08] <CoconutCrab> xong rồi mà
[16:08] <CoconutCrab> :3
[22:36] <penguins> chào mọi người ạ. Em đang dùng bản Ubuntu-14.10 và gặp phải 1 số vấn đề khi tắt máy.
[22:37] <penguins> Mỗi khi e dùng ubuntu trên 4,5 tiếng liên tiếp thì lúc tắt máy sẽ bị treo, k tắt được, phải dùng nút nguồn để tắt
[22:38] <penguins> Em muốn hỏi là bị thế thì có thể do những nguyên nhân gì và cách khắc phục như thế nào ạ.
[22:38] <penguins> Em cám ơn mọi người :)
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"MrTuxHdb",
"SuperLuserv3",
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"wingadium"
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[02:23] <holstein> zequence: oh, we're doing 15.10 iso testing?
[08:40] <zequence> holstein: It's up to anyone who wants to. There's no limmit to when you are allowed to test it.
[08:40] <zequence> But, that's Grants problem.
[08:41] <zequence> He's trying to install a development version of Ubuntu Studio in order to do development work
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"holstein",
"zequence"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntustudio-devel"
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[18:58] <benji> i/quit
[18:58] <benji> pfft
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"benji"
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[01:33] <llindner> Hello guys... I just installed ubuntu touch on my nexus 7 (2013). It all went well, but now as I want to download the document viewer from the app store there comes a big disappointment: i need a ubuntu one account? seriously?
[01:35] <llindner> is there any chance to skip that? otherwise cm+f-droid would be the right choice for me
[01:43] <llindner> ok, now I entered completely fake data like [email protected] and it seems to work ... which makes me even more wondering why is it neccessary
[02:41] <muka> llindner: try this https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/daily
[12:46] <melbaubuntu> heey guys, question: Are there alot of bugs for the HTC on m8?
[12:46] <melbaubuntu> with ubuntu i mean
[12:52] <melbaubuntu> heey guys, question: Are there alot of bugs for the HTC on m8?
[12:56] <robin-hero> hi all
[12:56] <robin-hero> devel-proposed channel doesn't work for me in the emulator. Any idea?
[13:24] <bunty_> hi guys, i have a nexus 7 and ubuntu touch installed on it. but it doesn't have a gstreamer available. I tried downloading but it then there is no gcc compiler. while downlaoding it says no space available. please help me I want to use gstreamer to stream one live video.
[13:26] <Walex> bunty_: as the Ubuntu Touch site shows you need a development environment to build packages for it. Phones and tables are not necessarily big enough.
[13:27] <bunty_> Walex: ok. But gstreamer is a inbuild facility i guess
[13:28] <bunty_> Walex: it's include in ubuntu image pack. but unfortunately I am ubanble to run that application on my tablet
[13:34] <Walex> bunty_: the gstreamer library is used by Ubuntu Touch, probably the 'gstreamer' application too.
[13:34] <Walex> is available.
[13:34] <bunty_> yes but when I am trying to run it is not supporting
[13:34] <Walex> bunty_: I am not sure what you mean with "run that application on my tablet"
[13:35] <bunty_> I mean running gstreamer on tablet
[13:35] <bunty_> do you know how to run gstreamer on ubuntu touch?
[13:35] <bunty_> please help
[13:35] <Walex> bunty_: today almost all the people I have been trying to help have been asking bad questions.
[13:36] <Walex> bunty_: which exact command did you run and what happened that made you thing that "it doesn't work"
[13:36] <bunty_> Walex: sorry for that but I am not good at it and ubuntu touch is totally new for me
[13:37] <bunty_> gst-launch1.0
[13:38] <Walex> and what happens when you type "gst-launch1.0" in the shell prompt in Ubuntu Touch?
[13:41] <Walex> bunty_: BTW in general terms Ubuntu Touch is the same as Ubuntu except that it does not use X-Windows, so either you use Touch apps, or you use command line ones.
[13:41] <Walex> but 'gst-launch1.0' is not an X app.
[13:42] <Walex> and it is called 'gst-launch-1.0
[13:43] <bunty_> yes you are right
[13:43] <Walex> and it is in package 'gstreamer1.0-tools'
[13:45] <bunty_> Walex: I have one RTSP stream which I am playing on ubuntu 12.04 and I am getting it perfectly fine. so I am using same command here.
[13:46] <bunty_> Walex: gst-launch-0.10 rtspsrc connection-speed=100000 latency=0 buffer-mode=none location=rtsp://192.168.7.207:8554/stream ! rtph264depay ! ffdec_h264 ! ffmpegcolorspace ! deinterlace mode=interlaced ! fpsdisplaysink sync=false -v
[14:01] <Walex> bunty_: so all you need is to get the package 'gstreamer1.0-tools' installed.
[14:09] <bunty_> Walex: I am trying to install it but it says "failed to write (No space left on device)"
[14:19] <Walex> bunty_: you need to add it to the image...
[17:35] <bunty_> Walex: Hi, please find image on following link. http://ibin.co/24KBu0mDKLV9 this i got on executing command: df -h, why only 2GB available on root?
[18:19] <bunty_> Hi, I have a nexus tabet and I have installed ubuntu on it. please find image on following link. http://ibin.co/24KBu0mDKLV9 this i got on executing command: df -h, why only 2GB available on root?
[18:19] <bunty_> it is 16 GB nexus 7 2013 wifi
[18:36] <bunty_> how to reinstall ubuntu touch on nexus 7?
[20:06] <brunch875> is there a noob-friendly command to make a chroot in the ubuntu touch?
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Walex",
"brunch875",
"bunty_",
"llindner",
"melbaubuntu",
"muka",
"robin-hero"
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"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/06/%23ubuntu-touch.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-touch"
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2015-06-06-#ubuntu-ko
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[02:34] <HolyKnight> @clien_hot20: 세월호 성금 중 430억을 모금한 단체가 자기 사업에 쓴다고 하네요. [20] ift.tt/1BQbBT0
[02:40] <HolyKnight> @being_subtle: 다이나믹 부산 http://m.dcinside.com/view.php?id=pusanu&no=518773&page=1&recommend=1 pic.twitter.com/LuAksgo4TT
[03:14] <autowiz> O'Reilly Media 오렐리 에서
[03:14] <autowiz> O' 는 o'clock 처럼
[03:14] <autowiz> 무슨 약자 일까요?
[03:14] <autowiz> 그냥 이름일려나요?
[03:49] <orion203> 안녕하세요~
[04:05] <autowiz> 안녕하세요
[04:20] <autowiz> 안녕하세요
[04:54] <HolyKnight> @hazzardoc: 사람들이 세월호 성금을 낼 때는 아무리 작아도 유족과 피해자들에게 전달되겠지, 하는 기대를 가졌을텐데, 이 단체는 적당히 남겨서 좀 다른 데 쓴다고 한다. http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=sec&sid1=102&oid=022&aid=0002847754&viewType=pc
[05:13] <LinDol> 헉.
[05:13] <LinDol> -_-
[05:20] <Nymph> 그래서 성금 안냈죠.
[05:20] <Nymph> 내 봤자 도둑놈들이 다 가지고 가기 때문에..
[05:20] <Nymph> 차라리 분향소 가서 그분들 직접만나서 돈봉투 주는게 나아요.
[05:36] <PotatoGim> 안녕하세요~~
[05:40] <LinDol> 예상은 했지만 역시나 실망스럽네요.
[05:40] <LinDol> ㅠㅠ
[05:40] <PotatoGim> 갓한민국...
[05:41] <LinDol> 비석 세우고 현수막 붙이고
[05:41] <LinDol> 이런데 쓰려나 -ㅅ-
[05:53] <autowiz> 자기 직원들 월급주고 그럴거 같은데요
[05:53] <autowiz> 어떻게 보면 취지는 좋아보이기도 합니다. 제2의 , 앞으로의 사고를 막는데 쓰겠다는건데
[05:53] <autowiz> 정작 그렇게 될까 하는게 문제지요
[06:03] <LinDol> 그렇게 쓰인 사례를 들어본적이 아직 없어서.. 뭔가 더 신뢰가 안가네요 ㅠ_ㅠ
[06:16] <monos> 안녕하세요
[06:19] <autowiz> 안녕하세요
[06:23] <monos> autowiz: 님 혹시 애플 휴대폰 사용해보셨어요?
[06:23] <monos> 아이폰
[06:24] <autowiz> 3gs 써봤어요
[06:24] <monos> 아이폰에서 서비스 되는 airplay이나 다른 서비스는 국내에 서비스 안해주나요?
[06:24] <autowiz> 저는 안써봤네요 . 이런 죄송합니다.
[06:24] <monos> 아니요
[06:24] <monos> 죄송할거 없죠
[06:25] <monos> 애플 휴대폰 관심이 가서 알아보고 있는데
[06:25] <monos> 국내에는 외국에서 아이폰이나 애플 기기 사면 서비스 해주는것들 국내에는 안해준다고 해서 정말인가해서 궁금해서 질문드린거에요
[06:36] <monos> autowiz: 님 뭐하세요?
[06:36] <monos> 바쁘신가요?
[06:36] <autowiz> 바쁘진 않구요 드라마 보고 있어요
[06:37] <monos> 혹시 유투브 처럼 자기가 원하는 화질 선택해서 하고 싶은데요
[06:37] <monos> 실시간 트렌스코딩
[06:37] <monos> 리눅스 서버에 대게 할려면 어떻게 하는지 아세요?
[06:37] <autowiz> 뭐 해본적은 없네요.
[06:38] <autowiz> 스트리밍 서버가 있는경우에 URL 에 따라서 화질이 다른경우는 있는데요
[06:38] <autowiz> 재생중에 바뀌고 이런건 잘 모르겠어요
[06:38] <monos> 드라마 뭐 재미있는거 있어요?
[06:39] <autowiz> 풍문으로 들었소 . 마지막회 보고 있네요 ㅎㅎ
[06:40] <monos> 네
[12:55] <pchero_travel> 잠시 핑 레이턴시 확인좀 부탁드려도 될까요?
[12:55] <pchero_travel> 혹시 지금 계신분??
[12:56] <autowiz> 네네 괜찮습니다.
[12:58] <autowiz> 자 그럼 핑 한개에 만원씩 해서 10장 되겠습니다 ㅋㅋ
[13:07] <pchero_travel> 허...걱
[14:37] <autowiz> 라즈곤님 안녕하세요 간만에 뵙습니다.
[14:56] <monos> autowiz: 님 안녕하세요
[14:56] <autowiz> 네 안녕하세요
[14:57] <monos> 워즈님 혹시 워치 인가 안드로이드 시계 사용해보셨어요?
[14:57] <monos> 애플 워치는 너무 비싸고 안드로이드 워치 하나 사고 싶어서 알아보고 있어요
[14:58] <autowiz> 저도 하나 살까 하다가 , 지름신이 그냥 가셨어요 ㅎㅎ
[14:58] <monos> autowiz: 님 어떤거 살려고 했는데요?
[14:58] <monos> 저는 7-8만원 선
[15:02] <autowiz> LG 에서 나온것도 괜찮다고는 하더라구요
[15:02] <autowiz> 외산 그냥 간단한거 ( 전화벨 못듣는경우가 종종 있어서 )
[15:02] <autowiz> 살까 하다가 있어도 잘 안쓸거 같아서 그만 뒀어요
[15:06] <monos> autowiz: http://prod.danawa.com/info/?pcode=3213908&cate=122600
[15:06] <monos> 이거 어떨까요?
[15:11] <autowiz> 괜찮아 보입니다.
[15:29] <PotatoGim^Home> 안녕하세요~~
[15:31] <monos> 안녕하세요
[15:31] <monos> PotatoGim^Home: 님 안녕하세요
[15:34] <PotatoGim^Home> 옙 ㅎㅎ
[15:35] <PotatoGim^Home> 야심한 시각에 뵈니 더 반갑네요.
[15:35] <pchero_travel> 흠...
[15:35] <pchero_travel> 아파치 설정하는법을 잘못 알고 있다가..
[15:35] <pchero_travel> 오늘 대박 삽질했네요.. -_-;;;
[15:36] <PotatoGim^Home> ㅎㅎ 어떤 땅을 푸셨기에...
[15:36] <pchero_travel> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/ko/vhosts/name-based.html
[15:36] <pchero_travel> 아파치 네임기반 가상 호스트 설정하는 부분에서...
[15:37] <pchero_travel> <VirtualHost *:80> 설정해야 하는 부분에..
[15:37] <pchero_travel> VirtualHost donamin.com:80>
[15:37] <pchero_travel> 이런 식으로 설정했었네요. -_-;;;
[15:38] <pchero_travel> 그동안은 다행히 네임서버에서 적절한 아이피로 설정을 해줘서 문제가 안생겼었는데..
[15:38] <autowiz> 그게 문접적으로 틀린건 아닐텐데 특수하게 쓸때만 쓰는거겠지요
[15:38] <pchero_travel> 오늘 마이그레이션하면서 임시로 로컬 hosts 파일에만 설정넣고 테스트하니..
[15:38] <pchero_travel> 안되더라구요. -_-;; 한동안 삽질..
[15:38] <PotatoGim^Home> ...컹;;;
[15:38] <autowiz> 저는 그것도 귀찮아서
[15:39] <autowiz> telnet localhost 80
[15:39] <autowiz> GET / HTTP/1.1
[15:39] <autowiz> Host: www.domain.com
[15:39] <autowiz> 으로 테스트 합니다
[15:39] <pchero_travel> 오오오....
[15:39] <pchero_travel> 좋은데요????
[15:39] <autowiz> HTTP/1.0 은 엔터 두번 끝에 줘야하고
[16:24] <autowiz> ( cd / ; tar cEf - oracle | ( cd /backup ; tar xf - ) )
[16:25] <autowiz> 아... ㅋㅋ 엉뚱한데다가 붙여넣어버렸네요 .. 왠지 안된다 했더니
[16:40] <monos> autowiz: 님 뭐하세요?
[16:40] <PotatoGim^Home> ㅎㅎㅎ 내일 뵙겠습니다~
[16:40] <monos> 잘자요
[16:42] <autowiz> 서버들 점검하고 백업 걸고 있어요 ㅎㅎ
[16:42] <monos> 나도 서버 점검해보고 싶네요
[16:42] <monos> 아참 autowiz님 저 공유기 T3004 사용하는데요
[16:42] <monos> 이번에 월급 타면 공유기 바꾸고 싶은데요
[16:43] <monos> 저희집 320메가 인터넷인데 어떤걸로 바꾸어야 할지 모르겠어요
[16:43] <monos> 와이파이 멀리 되고 내부망 1기가 되는거
[16:44] <autowiz> iptime 꺼 중에 안테나 많은거면 되지 않을까요?
[16:44] <monos> 제가 잘 몰라서요
[16:44] <monos> A2008 포트 8개
[16:45] <monos> 안테나 4개
[16:48] <autowiz> A2008 좋네요
[16:48] <autowiz> 사실 LAN 포트 개수 정하고 wifi 는 802.11ac 정도
[16:48] <autowiz> 하드웨어 NAT 가 더 좋다는데 요즘은 거의 이거인거 같고
[16:49] <autowiz> 이외에는 뭐 다 똑같을꺼에요
[16:55] <monos> autowiz: 님 안테나 5개 제품도 많네요
[16:55] <monos> a3004
[16:55] <monos> a5004
[16:59] <monos> autowiz: 님 http://prod.danawa.com/info/?pcode=2997402&cate=1131671#bookmark_cm_opinion
[16:59] <monos> 제품 어떤가요?
[17:02] <autowiz> 이거도 괜찮네요
[17:11] <monos> 내일 봐요
[17:30] <autowiz> 들어가세요~
[17:34] <autowiz> 밤늦게 까지 못주무시는건가요? 아니면 컴혼자 왔다갔다하는건가요 ㅎㅎ
[17:42] <HolyKnight> ㄷㄷ
[17:43] <HolyKnight> 곧 챔스해유.
[17:43] <HolyKnight> 침대위에서 책보면서 폰으로 챔스 보려구유
[17:43] <autowiz> 스포츠 경기 볼려고 아직 계시는건가요 ㅎㅎ
[17:48] <HolyKnight> 잠깐
[17:48] <HolyKnight> 보고 자려구유
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:38.043905
| 2015-06-06T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"HolyKnight",
"LinDol",
"Nymph",
"PotatoGim",
"PotatoGim^Home",
"autowiz",
"monos",
"orion203",
"pchero_travel"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/06/%23ubuntu-ko.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ko"
}
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