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Tony Robinson ?
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Tony Robinson ?
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Do I mean Tony ? I guess I do.
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Yeah.
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James Christie.
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Or S or Steve Renals.
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Steve Renal - Steve Renals.
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Which one do I mean ?
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Steve Renals is not SoftSound , is he ?
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No.
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My brain is not working ,
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OK.
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I don't remember who I 've been corresponding with.
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Steve wro i it 's Ste - Steve Renals wrote THISL IR.
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Then it 's Steve Renals.
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Oh , OK.
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OK.
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So uh just getting documentation and uh and f and formats ,
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Yeah.
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so that 's all going pretty well ,
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Assuming we 're
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Right.
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What about issues of playing sound files @ @ between the two platforms ?
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I think we 'll be OK with that. Um we have Well , that 's a good point too.
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Here 's a here 's a crazy idea actually.
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I don't know.
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Why don't you try and merge Transcriber and THISL IR ? They 're both Tcl interfaces.
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Well this is one of the reasons This is the one of the reasons that I 'm gonna have uh Dave Gelbart Gelbart Having him volunteer to work on it is a really good thing because he 's worked on the Transcriber stuff
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Right.
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and he 's more familiar with Tcl - TK than I am.
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And then you get they then you get the Windows media playing for free.
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Well that 's Snack , not not Transcriber.
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Right. But the point is that the Transcriber uses Snack and then you can but you can use a a lot of the same functionality and it 's
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Yeah , yeah , I mean , I I think THISL THISL GUI probably uses Snack. And so my intention was just to base it on that.
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Yeah. Well my thought was is that it would be nice it would be nice to have the running transcripts um eh you know , from speaker to speaker.
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And if it doesn't
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Right ? Do you have you have , you know , a speaker mark here and a speaker mark here ?
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Right , we 'll have to figure out a user interface for that , so.
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Right. Well that eh my thought was if you had like Multitrans or whatever do it. Or whatever.
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Yeah. It might be fairly difficult to get that to work in the little short segments we 'd be talking about and having the search tools and so on. We we can look into it ,
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Yeah.
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but
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The thing I was asking about with , um , free BSD is that it might be easier to get PowerPoint shows running in free BSD than to get this other package running in
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Yeah , I mean we have to I have to sit down and try it before I make too many judgments ,
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Yeah.
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so uh Um My experience with the Gnu compatibility library is really it 's just as hard and just as easy to port to any system. Right ? The Windows system isn't any harder because it it looks like a BSD system.
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Mm - hmm.
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It 's just , you know , just like all of them , the " include " files are a little different and the function calls are a little different.
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Right.
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So I it might be a little easier but it 's not gonna be a lot easier.
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OK. So there was that demo , which was one of the main ones , then we talked about um some other stuff which would basically be um showing off the the Transcriber interface itself and as you say , maybe we could even merge those in some sense , but but um , uh and part of that was showing off what the speech - non uh nonspeech stuff that Thilo has done s looks like.
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Yeah.
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Can I ask one more thing about THISL ? So with the IR stuff then you end up with a somewhat prioritized um ?
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Mm - hmm. Mm - hmm ,
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Excellent.
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ranked.
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Excellent. Yeah.
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So another idea I w t had just now actually for the demo was whether it might be of interest to sh to show some of the prosody uh work that Don 's been doing.
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Mm - hmm.
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Um actually show some of the features and then show for instance a task like finding sentence boundaries or finding turn boundaries. Um , you know , you can show that graphically , sort of what the features are doing. It , you know , it doesn't work great but it 's definitely giving us something.
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Well I think at at the very least we 're gonna want something illustrative with that
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I don't know if that would be of interest or not.
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cuz I 'm gonna want to talk about it and so i if there 's something that shows it graphically it 's much better than me just having a bullet point
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Yeah.
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pointing at something I don't know much about ,
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I mean , you 're looking at this now
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so.
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Are you looking at Waves or Matlab ?
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Um yeah I 'm starting to and um Yeah we can probably find some examples of different type of prosodic events going on.
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Yeah def
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S so when we here were having this demo meeting , what we 're sort of coming up with is that we wanna have all these pieces together , to first order , by the end of the month
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and then that 'll give us a week or so.
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Ooo. The end of
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Oh , the end of this month or next month ? Oh , you mean like today ?
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This month.
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Ju
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Oh.
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June. June. June.
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Next month.
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Oh sorry , next month.
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Yeah.
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Sorry.
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Today isn't June first ,
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There 's another one.
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is it.
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Uh that 'll that 'll give us that 'll give us a week or so to uh to port things over to my laptop and make sure that works ,
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Exactly.
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Sorry.
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yeah.
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I think , I mean eh where
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Yeah , I mean I 'll be here.
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Yeah if d if Don can sort of talk to whoever 's
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Yeah.
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cuz we 're doing this anyway as part of our you know , the research , visualizing what these features are doing
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Yeah.
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and so either it might not be integrated but it it could potentially be in it.
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Yeah. Well , this is to an audience of researchers
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Could find some.
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so I mean , you know , to let s the goal is to let them know what it is we 're doing.
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I mean it 's different.
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