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Oh ! OK. I didn't do that either.
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I don't ,
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Yeah.
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maybe I forgot to d
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Takes me no time at all to edit these.
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But it 's almost Yeah.
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Yeah that 's cuz you kn
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I 'm not doing anything.
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I I know why.
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And I was I was looking at Chuck 's , like , " oh what did Chuck do , OK I 'll do that ". So.
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And then uh also in a couple of places instead of filling the participants under " participants " they were filled in under " description ".
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Ah , OK.
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Uh
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And so that 's also a problem. So anyway.
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We will do better.
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That 's it. Oh uh also I 'm working on another version of this tool , the the one that shows up here , that will flash yellow if the mike isn't connected. And it 's not quite ready to go yet because um it 's hard to tell whether the mike 's connected or not because the best quality ones , the Crown ones , are about the same level if they 're off and no one 's o off or if they 're on and no one 's talking.
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Huh.
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Um these these ones , they are much easier , there 's a bigger difference. So I 'm working on that and it it sorta works and so eventually we will change to that and then you 'll be able to see graphically if your mike is dropping in or out.
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Will that also include like batteries dying ? Just a any time the mike 's putting out zeros basically.
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Yep. Yep. Yep.
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But with the screensaver kicking in , it
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But
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Now
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y yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well I 'll turn off the screensaver too.
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Oops. Speaking of which.
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Um the other thing is as I 've said before , it is actually on the thing. There 's a little level meter but of course no one ever pays attention to it. So I think having it on the screen is more easy to notice.
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It would be nice if if these had little light indicators , little L E Ds for
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Uh buzzer.
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Yeah , a buzzer.
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" Bamp , bamp ! "
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Small shocks
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Yeah. Actually
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administered to the OK. Oh
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OK , disk backup , et cetera ? Um I spoke with Dave Johnson about putting all the Meeting Recorder stuff on non - backed - up disk to save the overhead of backup and he pretty much said " yeah , you could do that if you want " but he thought it was a bad idea. In fact what he said is doing the manual one , doing uh NW archive to copy it is a good idea and we should do that and have it backed up. He w he 's a firm believer in in lots of different modalities of backup. I mean , his point was well taken. This data cannot be recovered.
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Yeah.
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And so if a mistake is made and we lose the backup we should have the archive and if then a mistake is made and we lose the archive we should have the backup.
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Well I guess it is true that even with something that 's backed up it 's not gonna if it 's stationary it 's not going to go through the increment it 's not gonna burden things in the incremental backups.
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Just just the monthly full.
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Hmm.
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Yeah , so the monthly full will be a bear but
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Yeah. But he said that that we sh shouldn't worry too much about that , that we 're getting a new backup system and we 're far enough away from saturation on full backups that it 's w probably OK.
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Really ?
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And uh , so the only issue here is the timing between getting more disks and uh recording meetings.
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So I guess the idea is that we would be reserving the non - backed - up space for things that took less than twenty - four hours to recreate or something like that , right ?
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Things that are recreatable easily and also Yeah , basically things that are recreatable.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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The expanded files and things like that.
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OK.
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They take up a lot more room anyway.
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Yeah.
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Uh but we do need more disk.
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So we can get more disk. Yeah. So.
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Yeah. And I I think I agree with him. I mean his point was well taken that if we lose one of these we cannot get it back.
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OK.
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I don't think there was any other et cetera there.
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Well I was allowing someone else to come up with something related that they had uh
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I thought you guys were gonna burn C Ds ?
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Um unfortunately we could burn C Ds but first of all it 's a pain.
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Yeah.
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Because you have to copy it down to the PC and then burn it and that 's a multi - step procedure. And second of all the the write - once burners as opposed to a professional press don't last.
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Yeah.
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So I think burning them for distribution is fine but burning them for backup is not a good idea.
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I see. OK.
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Cuz th they they fail after a couple years.
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Alright.
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I do have uh uh It 's a different topic. Can I add one top topic ? We have time ? I wanted to ask , I know that uh that Thilo you were , um , bringing the Channeltrans interface onto the Windows machine ? And I wanted to know is th
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Yeah it 's it Basically it 's done ,
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It 's all done ? That 's g wonderful. Great.
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yeah. Yeah.
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Yes , since Tcl - TK runs on it , basically things 'll just work.
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Yeah it Yeah , it was just a problem with the Snack version and the Transcriber version but it 's solved.
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Does and that does that mean , I
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So.
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maybe I should know this but I don't. Does this mean that the that this could be por uh ported to a Think - Pad note or some other type of uh
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Yeah , basically uh I did install it on my laptop and yeah
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Wonderful.
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it worked.
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Wonderful.
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Hmm ! Good. CrossPads ? CrossPads ?
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Uh got an email from uh James Landay who basically said " if you 're not using them , could you return them ? " So he said he doesn't need them , he just periodically w at the end of each term sends out email to everyone who was recorded as having them and asks them if they 're still using them.
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So we 've never used them.
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We used them once.
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Once ?
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We we used them a couple times ,
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Mm - hmm. Couple times.
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Them ? There 's more than one ?
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but
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Yeah.
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Yeah , we have two. Um.
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But
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My opinion on it is , first , I never take notes anyway so I 'm not gonna use it , um and second , it 's another level of infrastructure that we have to deal with.
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And I have uh so my my feeling on it is that I think in principle it 's a really nice idea , and you have the time tags which makes it better tha than just taking ra raw notes. On the other hand , I the down side for me was that I think the pen is really noisy. So you have ka kaplunk , kaplunk , kaplunk. And I and I don't know if it 's audible on the but I I sort of thought that was a disadvantage. I do take notes , I mean , I could be taking notes on these things and I guess the plus with the CrossPads would be the time markings but I don't know.
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Uh , what is a CrossPad ?
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So it 's it 's um it 's a regular pad , just a regular pad of paper but there 's this pen which indicates position.
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Thank you.
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And so you have time and position stuff stored
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OK.
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