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Fortunately, wire-wrapping is a better wiring technique than
most at high frequencies; Cray computers (up to the X-MP, at least)
all had wirewrapped backplanes. Wirewrap gets into trouble at
much higher frequencies than any TTL can handle. The 'increase'
of wiring capacitance is not really relevant (you have to use
transmission line techniques, and the capacitance is no problem).
Hand-powered is a terrible choice (IMHO) unless you are
a field maintenance person who will do maybe a dozen connections
at a time. Your hands will cramp. Battery-powered wire-wrap guns
are available in the $150 range, and so are the little
twiddle-stick manual types ($15). For a modest project, of
a couple hundred connections, I'd prefer to borrow a professional
AC unit... or a pneumatic one. | 11 | trimmed_train |
10,908 |
I had knee surgery while I was in the Navy back in 77. The
doctors put me in a cast from ass-to-ankle. My only method of transportaion
was a DOHC 450 Honda at the time. I found that by sliding back on the seat
I could use my heel (did I mention it was my left leg?) to operate the shift.
I would hook the end of the lever with my heel and lift my entire leg for up-
shifts and just drop my leg on the lever for the down-shifts. Forget
nutral, took WAY too much finesse for the leg! The crutches were bungee-
corded to the right side of the bike with the "top" resting on the passenger
peg and the right turnsignal sticking through the "hole" in the crutches.
Every other day when I rode the 10 miles to Physical Therapy (tourture
sessions) the doc would give me hell about riding a bike much less riding in
my condition. Didn't stop me tho! B-P
BTW. This is the same bike I assembled in my second floor barracks room and
rode down the stairs when it was completed! | 12 | trimmed_train |
3,896 |
One rule of thumb is that if a person is making the claim, they are
wrong. I was just reading John 14 this morning (I think that is the
right chapter, anyway it is close and I don't have a Bible at work to
check with.) and in it Jesus is talking to his disciples about his
impending death and he says that he will be going away and then later
he will be with them. He said something along the lines of "I will
be in you and you will be in me." (Again I cannot provide the exact
quote or citation.) Anyway, my understanding of this is that
the Second Coming will not be an outward event. It is an inward
event, Christ will come to live in our hearts and we will live in him.
If you look for a person you will be deceived.
It seems to me that the Jews had been looking for a Messiah that would
be a political or military leader and so didn't recognize Jesus when
he came. Jesus tried to show that his Kingdom was not of this earth.
A lot of what I have seen written about the Second Coming seems to
based on an expectation of Christ coming back and finally taking over
the world and running it the way it should be. It sounds a lot like
what the Jews were looking for. The First Coming wasn't like that and
I see no reason for the Second Coming to be like that either.
Oh and by the way, I don't expect it to happen once. There is no one
Second Coming, there are a lot of little ones. Every time Christ
comes into someones heart, Christ has come again.
Peace,
Will.
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1,549 |
I disagree with your claim that Jews were not evangelistic (except in
the narrow sense of the word). Jewish proselytism was widespread.
There are numerous accounts of Jewish proselytism, both in the New
Testament and in Roman and Greek documents of the day. | 0 | trimmed_train |
995 | I have a vt200 and vt100 compatible terminal
with 1200 external hyess modem
amber screens 101 keyboard,cable
make an offer
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7,738 |
That's a revisionist account of what happened. Gritz was well-aware
of Duke's presence on the ticket. Given that Gritz is not at all shy
about associating and promoting other white supremacists (such as the
Christian Identity movement or Willis Carto), whatever reasons Gritz
had to leave the ticket had nothing to do with Duke's presence.
I believe Chip Berlet has a Populist Party newsletter from the time with
a photo of Gritz happily shaking hands with Duke. | 9 | trimmed_train |
7,058 |
After hearing about the McGovern House story on Paul Harvey I never had any
idea how much it was worth. The autograph is on a Senate Pass card
and is signed 'John Kennedy.' I don't remember if it was signed
'Senator John Kennedy' or whether or not it was dated, because I haven't
looked at it in quite a while. Currently it is in a safety deposit box.
I would rather sell to a private collector rather then go through an auction
house such as Christy's since that would tend to take away from the profit.
If you (or any collector you may know) has an interest in this please send
me an e-mail expressing your interest. I will see what I can do to make
a scanned gif of it available to prospective buyers.
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4,025 | -*----
Cross-posted and with followups directed to talk.politics.theory.
-*----
In other words, we should jail people who say the wrong
things. In this advocacy, we can see a truly ugly meme.
Does Mark Robert Thorson advocate jailing himself? | 19 | trimmed_train |
8,776 |
Not one, but two:
Obesity in Europe 88,
proceedings of the 1st European Congress on Obesity
Annals of NY Acad. Sci. 1987
| 19 | trimmed_train |
543 | Just Testing !!!
No flames please ! | 17 | trimmed_train |
10,774 | I remember reading about a program that made windows icons run away
from the mouse as it moved near them. Does anyone know the name
of this program and the ftp location (probably at cica)
| 18 | trimmed_train |
10,049 | "Jack Previdi" <[email protected]> writes, in reply to Dorothy Heydt
reminding us that advertising is not done on Internet:
As a matter of fact D.J., it does make a difference.
Almost a half million new users joined the Internet last year,
many of them are commercial businesses. The ban on commercial
use of Internet is no more.
Jack, there is a difference between using the network for commercial
purposes and advertising in newsgroups. Business communication is
okay. Advertising to hundreds of thousands of users around the planet
who have no desire to receive advertising is not okay.
Those of us who pay for Internet access are constrained only
by our innate good taste and no have no "administrator" to
guide(?) us.
I suspect that a site which generated a large volume of material not
in anybody's good taste would find itself getting a lot of attention
it didn't want. You may belong to the public library, but that
doesn't mean you can deface the books, disorder the stacks, or disturb
the other patrons.
You're constrained by the same rules that the rest of the users (many
academic and military, who get irritable about a network for which
they pay with tax and grant money carrying private business
advertising) follow. There are Secret Masters here, just like
everywhere else. They're not as obvious as the ones on Prodigy, but
they're here.
No doubt at some point the Internet, like everything else, will become
grotty enough to carry advertising. At that time I hope it is
confined to its own newsgroups and not on discussion groups---like
misc.writing.
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7,940 |
XC units are often pre-production sample devices. Those are normally
distributed for evaluation as freebies and are not guaranteed to
meet every spec.
Yep, that's for sure...that's one thing I like most about Motorola. | 11 | trimmed_train |
560 |
I hate to follow up to my own posting, but I should perhaps clarify
some things so I won't get flamed.
First of all, when I'm talking about ``factoring the modulus'' or a
``breakthrough in factoring'', what I really mean is a breakthrough in
the cryptanalysis of RSA. I know that factoring and breaking RSA are
not proven to be equivalent; it's just so damn convenient not to
repeat this every time.
I also have to admit that I don't really know if the ``non-group''
property of a cipher is essential only for key chaining. I have
thought about it a little while, but I can't find a way that a
cryptanalyst could exploit a group structure. That, of course, means
nothing at all.
Then I wrote,
What I meant was that as long as the only advantage of the
cryptanalyst is a faster computer, then we will probably have RSA for
a long time to come, because even if 1024-bit moduli somehow could be
broken with fast computers (not with a new algorithm), then people
would simply use longer moduli. Both users and cryptanalysts benefit
from better technology in the same way.
Hope this keeps the flames away... Have fun.
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8,893 |
Other people have commented on most of this swill, I figured
I'd add a few comments of my own.
Hong Kong, and Cairo both have higher population densities.
There is no fundamental right to work in another country. And
the closing of the strip is not a punishment, it is a security measure
to stop people from stabbing Israelis.
Dozens minus one, since one of them was stabbed to death a few
days ago.
Adam
Adam Shostack [email protected] | 6 | trimmed_train |
3,362 | Nikkor AF 70-210 f/4-5.6 zoom lens. Excellent condition. I'm looking to get the
2.8 version so I'm selling this. | 5 | trimmed_train |
2,093 | 8 | trimmed_train |
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11,282 |
True 914 enthusiasts will be able to give you a better answer then this
but I'll dump my impressions. I've wanted to own a 914 for about 10 years
now; came close once but I ended up buying a Fiero instead (biggest mistake
of my life!)
Anyway, for $4000 you should be able to get a nice car but your also set
in the price range to get taken by a nice looker that is a pile of shit.
The most common total failure for the car would be frame rust between the
engine and passenger compartment. Also look for chassis welded together
here. Oh yeah, the price range you are talking about must be the 4 banger;
a 6 (if you could find one) would be mucho more bucks.
Parts for the engine are pretty easy to come by (for an old car) and you
can even locate crude in the JC Whitney catalog if you have too.
The machine itself is pretty simple (they use the spare tire for windshild
washer instead of a pump fer chris sake!) so getting it fixed by a good
bug/porsche mechanic would be easy. Since it is mid-engine you may spend
more on labor for any mechanical work.
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1,484 |
I have also been trying to complete my collection. I have an extra CCI # 16
(Communications) and a # 12 (Applications in the Arts), both in mint
condition.
I would like to trade for (or buy) the following: # 1, 3, 22, 23, 25, 26, 30,
and 31.
Thanks -David | 11 | trimmed_train |
1,945 |
[riveting BMWMOA election soap-opera details deleted]
I'm going to buy a BMW just to cast a vote for Groucho.
Ride safe,
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6,890 |
Hey, sounds great. Does that mean that W4WG works with ODI? I thought it
uses NDIS.
My problem is that Lan Workplace with all its drivers uses up most of my
UMBs, so I'd hate to have to load many more drivers to make W4WG work
along.
I read in a German computer magazine that TCP/IP support for W4WG is just
around the corner. Anybody have any news about this?
Regards, Richard
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7,044 |
I don't see the effort to equate salvation with paradise.
Rather, I see implied the fact that only those who are saved
may enter paradise. | 15 | trimmed_train |
6,047 |
Is this an advantage to MS Windows or to Xt? I used to think it
was a big advantage for Xt, but I am not at all sure anymore...
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David Smyth [email protected]
Senior Software Engineer, (818)306-6463 (temp! do NOT use v-mail)
X and Object Guru. tempory office: 525/B70
Jet Propulsion Lab, M/S 525-3660 4800 Oak Grove Drive, Pasadena, CA 91109
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What's the earliest possible date you can't prove it won't be done by?
- Tom DeMarco | 16 | trimmed_train |
2,336 | #Yet, when a law was proposed for Virginia that extended this
#philosophy to cigarette smokers (so that people who smoked away
#from the work couldn't be discriminated against by employers),
#the liberal Gov. Wilder vetoed it. Which shows that liberals don't
#give a damn about "best person for the job," it's just a power
#play.
Of course Clayton ignores the fact that employers pay health
insurance, and insurance for smokers is more expensive than for
non-smokers.
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9,752 |
A lot of people won't agree with me. That's their right and I respect that.
However, to the point, Jews are also covered by the saving grace of Jesus
Christ. There are Jews who have become Christians. | 15 | trimmed_train |
1,141 |
Wetteland is on the DL effective March 26 or something like that. | 2 | trimmed_train |
4,213 |
Not acceptable. Syria and Lebanon have a right to determine if
they wish to return to the situation prior to the French invasion
where they were both part of the same "mandate territory" - read
colony.
Israel has no right to determine what happens in Lebanon. Invading another
country because you consider them a threat is precisely the way that almost
all wars of aggression have started.
Again territorial expansion by force.
The UN defines them as occupied. They are recognised as such by every
nation on earth (excluding one small caribean island).
So the Adam thinks that peace is possible with continued occupation and
a continued military presence? That is a completely unsustainable situation
because the USA is bankrupt and simply cannot afford to finance the
Israeli ecconomy any more. There is no money for such an occupation.
They were moved in as part of a deliberate policy to prevent the return
of the occupied territories. Machiavelli described the reasoning in the
Prince. The clear intention was to create a constituency which the Likud
beleived could not be deprived of the land stolen from the indigenous
population.
The pretexts under which the settlers aquired land was through the
redefinition of much land used in common as "public land". The assertion
that the village common on which the village depends for food belongs to
an invader simply because no individual has title is clearly an
excuse. When the land is used to build a condominium for aliens brought
in to occupy the land for a foreign power there is a clear breach of the
Geneva convention which stipulates that land use in occupied territories
must not be changed.
No amount of self justifying on the part of Likud and hard linner appologists
will change the fact that the majority of world governments, and all of
those that actually have any power have condemned this practice.
Theyu also are a liability. We are talking about civilian encampments that
would last no more than hours against tanks,
Don't fool yourself. It was the gulf war that brought the Israelis to the
negotiating table. Once their US backers had a secure base in the gulf
they insrtructed Shamir to negotiate or else.
If the creation of settlements had gone on any longer the USA would have
cut the money supply.
Not at all. They can chose to live in an arab state or return to Israel.
The existence of a comunity does not give the right for another country
to annexe territory, not in Bosnia, not in the West Bank.
Unless the new boundaries drawn up are those of 48 there will be no peace.
Araffat has precious little authority to agree to anything else.
The real issue is not the land treaty but the trade treaty. Since the
Palestinians will remain heavily dependent on Israel indefinitely it
is this that will be the guarantor of peace. another factor will be the
return of lands confiscated by the Israeli state within Israel and the
dismantling of the shadow structures which allow discrimination against
non-Jews within what is nominaly a secular state.
The irony is that in return for a guarantee that the palestinian state has
a non descrimination law in order to protect the remaining settlers the
Israeli state is going to be forced inot the same position. This will mean
outlawing of discrimination such as that which prevents arabs from buying
or using much of the land.
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8,164 |
It's supposedly a high-performance chip based upon workstation graphics
accelerators. It's quite fast (I have 7), but as usual with new boards/chips
the drivers are buggy for Windows. As far as Winmarks go, it depends upon
the version. I think I got 42M winmarks with version 3.11. 2.5 yielded the
50+ number. I've also benchmarked this with Wintach at over 65 (from memory
as well).
As far as the low-level stuff goes, it looks pretty nice. It's got this
quadrilateral fill command that requires just the four points.
It's very fast, but beware of buggy drivers, and otherwise no non-windows
support.
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1,499 |
Do you consider Neo-Nazis and white supremists to be Christian? I'd hardly
classify them as Christian. Do they follow the teachings of Christ? Love
one another. Love your neighbour as yourself. Love your enemies. Is Jesus
Christ their Lord and Saviour? By the persecution of Jews, they are violating
all the precepts of what Christ died for. They are in direct violation of
the teachings of Christ. Even Jesus who was crucified by the Jewish leaders
of that time, loved His enemies by asking the Father for forgiveness of their
sins. I am a Christian and I bear no animosity towards Jews or any one else.
The enemy is Satan, not our fellow man.
God be with you, | 15 | trimmed_train |
2,238 | I am looking for a WIN31 driver (or set) for my Diamond
Speedstar 1MB video card. Does anybody know of an archive
site that has these? I looked at CICA and it had drivers for
the Stealth card and for Generic ET4000 cards but not one
specifically for the Speedstar. Is there one? Or has Diamond
dropped the Speedstar out of the driver development loop.
Thanks for any info,
Rob
-- | 18 | trimmed_train |
11,308 | Thanks for the many offers to review this book.
If you received a review copy, please return it
as soon as possible. I had a system crash and
lost the list of people I sent it to!
Thanks | 16 | trimmed_train |
3,272 |
Dennis, I have worked on or written proposals worth tens of millions
of $$. Customers included government (including NASA), for profit and
non-profit companies. All expected a wrap (usually called a fee). Much
of the work involved allocating and costing the work of subcontractors.
The subcontractors where universities, for-profits, non-profits, and
even some of the NASA Centers for the Commercialization of Space. ALL
charged fees as part of the work. Down the street is one of the NASA
commercialization centers; they charge a fee.
Now, I'm sure your a competent engineer Dennis, but you clearly lack
experience in several areas. Your posts show that you don't understand
the importance of integration in large projects. You also show a lack
of understanding of costing efforts as shown by your belief that it
is reasonable to charge incremental costs for everything. This isn't
a flame, jsut a statement.
Your employer DOES charge a fee. You may not see it but you do.
Well there you are Dennis. As I said, they simply include the fee in
their overhead. Many seoparate the fee since the fee structure can
change depending on the customer.
Integration, Dennis, isn't overhead.
Dennis, Reston has been the only NASA agency working to reduce costs. When
WP 02 was hemoraging out a billion $$, the centers you love so much where
doing their best to cover it up and ignore the problem. Reston was the
only place you would find people actually interested in solving the
problems and building a station.
When you have a bit more experience Dennis, you will realize that
integration isn't overhead. It is the single most important part
of a successful large scale effort.
The story you refer to said that some NASA people blamed it on
Congress. Suprise suprise. The fact remains that it is the centers
you support so much who covered up the overheads and wouldn't address
the problems until the press published the story.
Are you saying the Reston managers where wrong to get NASA to address
the overruns? You approve of what the centers did to cover up the overruns?
You should know Dennis that NASA doesn't include transport costs for
resuply. That comes from the Shuttle budget. What they where saying
is that operational costs could be cut in half plus transport.
I do hope you can find the time to tell us just why it was wrong of
Reston to ask that the problems with WP 02 be addressed.
Allen
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689 |
I don't know why it is so obvious. We are not speaking of acts of the
flesh. We are just speaking of emotions. Emotions are not of themselves
moral or immoral, good or bad. Emotions just are. The first step is
not to label his emotion as good or bad or to numb ourselves so that
we hide our true feelings, it is to accept ourselves as we are, as God
accepts us. It seems that Paul's anger he has accepted and channeled
it to a plea to all of us to refrain from passing judgement on those
afflicted with a disease and to reach out to others. Give in? Calling
his arguments foolish, belittling them to only quarrels, avoiding action
because of fear to give others a bad feeling, he's not forgiving?
Re-think it, Aaron. Don't be quick to judge. He has forgiven those with
AIDS, he has dealt with and taken responsibility for his feelings and made
appropriate choices for action on such feelings. He has not given in to
his anger. | 0 | trimmed_train |
6,630 | #
# I think the original post was searching for existing implementations of
# f.i. Gouroud-shading of triangles. This is fairly complex to do with plain
# X. Simpler shading models are implemented already, f.i. in x3d (ask archie
# where to get the latest version).
# For Gouroud, a fast implementation will be possible utilizing some extension
# only, either MIT-SHM to do the shade in an image and fast update the window
# with it, or PEX/OpenGL which should be able to shade themselves. The portable
# 'vanilla X' way would be to shade in a normal XImage and use XPutImage(),
# what would be good enough to do static things as f.i. fractal landscapes
# or such stuff.
#
# To speak about POVRay, the X previewer that comes with the original source
# package is not that good, especially in speed, protocol-friendlyness and
# ICCCM compliance. Have a look on x256q, my own preview code. It is on
#
# 141.76.1.11:pub/gfx/ray/misc/x256q/
#
# The README states the points where it is better than xwindow.c from
# POVRay 1.0
#
The version I have is using the x256q code instead of the default X Windows
code. I have it currently running on a DEC Alpha running OpenVMS AXP and
so far have been pretty impressed. The only "side-effect" of x256q is that
it requires xstdcmap -best be run before it will work, annoyning but not a
show stopper.
Patrick L. Mahan
--- TGV Window Washer ------------------------------- [email protected] --------- | 16 | trimmed_train |
9,977 | The Armenians were deeply anti-semitic as well. In the May 10, 1936
edition of 'Hairenik Weekly' the vice-mayor of Bucharest, Rumania is
quoted as saying:
"The Armenians helped us not to become the slaves of the Jewish
elements in our country."
"And the type of Jew who is imported to Palestine...is not anything
to be proud about. Their loose morals, and other vices were
unknown to the Arabs prior to Balfour Declaration, on top of
all communist activities were the cause of most of the Arab
criticism."[1]
As Uzun exposed, the Armenians were fascist. Before Pearl Harbor,
the Dashnak daily 'Hairenik' (not to be confused with the Tzeghagrons
'Hairenik Weekly') expressed pro-Nazi sentiments:
"And came Adolf Hitler, after herculean struggles. He spoke
to the racial heart strings of the German, opened the
fountain of his national genius, strock down the spirit
of defeatism...At no period since the World War had Berlin
conducted so realistic, well organized, and planned policy
as now, since Hitler's assumption to power...And whatever
others may think concerning Hitlerism and Fascism as a
system of Government, it is proved that they have revitalized
and regenerated the two states, Germany and Italy."[2]
[1] Captain George Haig, 'The Case of Palestine,' in Hairenik
Weekly, Friday, September 25, 1936.
[2] 'Hairenik,' official organ of the Dashnaktsuitune, Sept.
17, 1936; quoted in John Roy Carlson, 'The Armenian Displaced
Persons' (see endnote 1), p. 21.
Serdar Argic | 6 | trimmed_train |
3,915 | Keywords: | 1 | trimmed_train |
7,566 |
I would guess that it requires X, almost certainly DV/X, which commonly
uses the GO32 (DJGPP) setup for its programs. If you don't have DV/X
running, you can't get anything which requires interfacing with X.
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9,800 | Us having the liberties to talk about this doesn't make the problem go
away. It doesn't make it right. Rather the opposite, if we do not do
anything about it, you can bet it's going to get worse. | 7 | trimmed_train |
3,183 | For those that are interested I got my fully optioned (Air, ABS,
sunroof) '92 SE-R in September 1991 for $13,555 in Sacramento, CA. It
was one of the 1st '92s sold, few of the dealers had any, no local
dealer had an ABS equipped SE-R. I went straight to the fleet manager
at the dealership I liked, told him what I wanted, made him aware that I
knew what his price should be. He called me back with exactly what I
wanted from a dealer 125mi away, I took delivery the next day.
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9,896 |
I believe you have the correct files. I think what you'll have to
do is go back into Setup and choose change video adapter or
whatever it is called. Then the trick is choose the same adaptor
you currently have. What Setup does is it actually changes the
file WIN.COM whenever you go into it and change the video
hardware selection. It incorporates the contents of VGALOGO.RLE
into WIN.COM when you do this. This trick can also be used to
change the startup logo into whatever you want it to be.
--
[.SIG ALERT] | 18 | trimmed_train |
9,134 |
+Last night, while watching the 2a.m. rebroadcast of Jerry Springer (a
+talk show) I heard this Jewel of a thought from a 12 year old racist.
+The focus of this show was on these kids and their hatred for the Jewish
+religion, and why.
[some stuff deleted]
+Interesting (and scary) no? They went on to say how the Jews had
+killed their god, and how in the end of time that all the races would
+go to their homelands (of course, they would remain in America, which
+is New Jeruselem, as it says in Gen 2??? (what another kid said) but
+the rest of the races would go home) and then the great battle or plague
+or whatever Revel. says would happen, and the jews would be killed.
+
+The most interesting thing about this was that my roomate is Catholic,
+and had the KJV of the Bible on his desk. He immediatly opened it up
+and began to search for the quoted passages (Gen, Rev, and John) to
+look for himself, and couldn't find what they said they saw. I don't
+know
I saw this show a while back, and when I heard these kids
quote the Bible to justify their racist claims, I looked up
that quote about Jesus hating Jews (since Jesus himself was a
Jew, my curiousity had been piqued by such a claim).
The jist of the passage (and I am sorry but I can't recall
which passage it was exactly) was that Jesus was condemning
the Pharisees for being corrupt.
Of course, the Pharisees were Jewish too, but it wasn't Jews
as a whole that Jesus was condemning, just the powers that be.
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11,205 | reconditioned at a
(still
Well, sounds like we need some kind of a Lemon Law on the hardware
industry. After all it does sound unfair to me for someone that has
paid the price of a new drive for a reconditioned one. What do you
guys think?
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2,185 |
Stop! Hold it! You have a few problems here. Official history says that
the first accusations of homosexuality in the SA came from OUTSIDE of the Nazi
party, long BEFORE the Nazis ever came to power. So this objection is a red
herring, even if established history is wrong on this point. Moreover, none of
the histories I've read ever made mention of Hitler or anyone else ever using
homosexuality as a pretext for purging Roehm. A point I saw reiterated was that
Hitler and the party covered up these accusations. If you are going to accuse
official history of being a fabrication, you should at least get your facts
right. The pretext for purging Roehm was that he was planning to use the SA in
a coup against Hitler. Nowhere is there mention of using allegations of
homosexuality as a pretext for the purge, nor as a justification afterwards (it
is possible that the histories I've read have not mentioned this, but I doubt
it - would it be in Hitler's best interest to admit to the world that his
former right hand man was a homosexual?).
Anyway, as I said before, it is always possible that I have missed references
to the Nazis making use of charges of homosexuality against the SA after the
night of the long knives - but this does not prove that they were false. Even
the Nazis could tell the truth when it was to their advantage. In any case,
this does not deal with accusations of homosexuality in the SA during the
1920's.
Ah, yes. I forgot this was being posted to alt.conspiracy. I can smell the
paranoia from here. Since the Nazis never officially charged Roehm with
homosexuality (at least, not according to what I've read), I'd like to know
what tainted "evidence" you are talking about. Since the accusations were made
by persons outside of the Nazi party, long before it came to power, and those
accusations were common knowledge to journalists and others in Germany in the
1920's and 30's, just how would it be possible for the Nazis to go back in
time and plant "tainted" evidence? How exactly does one doctor newspapers
which were circulated around the world, without the discrepancies being
obvious? What actual incidences of Nazi doctoring evidence on this matter
do you know about? And what about the testimony of people who were involved in
these matters, some of whom were not Nazis? And what is the point of making a
false accusation of homosexuality if you do not publicize it? Since the point
here seems to be to discredit established history, then the burden of proof
falls on the revisionist. The revisionists had better do their homework
before making accusations. Otherwise they simply look like conspiracy nuts.
This is just about the *only* thing we agree on.
I suspect that the notion that there might have been bad people - Roehm and
his SA buddies - who were homosexuals must disturb some people. The feeling
seems to be that if a nasty individual is accused of homosexuality, that this
must be an attempt to bash homosexuals. This fear - often justified - is what
lies behind this distrust of official history, or so it seems to me. But this
is not a good justification for trashing accepted accounts of this subject. If
you really think that historians are so incompetent, why don't you write them
and ask where they got their sources on this subject, if you can't tell from
their footnotes? I'm a graduate student in history. Writing to professors and
tracking down sources is old hat. But my time is limited and this is not my
specialty - and neither you nor anyone else have said anything that would
cast one shred of doubt on existing evidence. I'm not going to waste my time
trying to debunk someone's paranoia. Do the research yourself.
Given that you already consider all evidence "tainted", what on earth would
constitute concrete particulars? And since when have concrete particulars been
considered "shrewd guesses"?
I suggest that those who do not trust popular historians (Irving et al) -
historians writing for a popular audience do not, as a rule, provide copious
footnotes - should try instead reading academic historians, who usually
provide footnotes to all their sources in immmense detail. This is the place
to start looking. Assuming that one really wants to know the truth.
I'll bet the folks on alt.pagan are tired of this subject already. My
apologies - we seem to have gone off on a bit of a tangent. I forget which gods
are responsible for keeping strings within appropriate newsgroup subject
boundaries... | 15 | trimmed_train |
1,768 |
I know that at least one person on that list says the first he heard
of Clipper was in the Friday morning newspaper! And another has
already fired off a letter of protest to NIST.
My point? I suspect this list, interesting as it is for various
reasons, does not represent the cabal that put this proposal together.
Some of them, yes. Others, no.
I received mail from Mitch Kapor saying that he did not ask to be on
the list, and does not know why he was added. I'm sure the same
applies to others on the list. So, I guess my initial theory was
right, that the clipper list was just someone's idea of a bad joke. I
guess I should be happy it wasn't a conspiracy.
Marc | 7 | trimmed_train |
2,189 |
Senile keratoses. Have nothing to do with the liver.
--
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Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
[email protected] | it is shameful to surrender it too soon." | 19 | trimmed_train |
10,999 |
To display Millions of colors on a 16" monitor you need 2MB of VRAM
in the Q950.
Correct. This is the amount of on-board VRAM that the Q800 comes
with.
Yes this is possible. Technically, you only need to take out 2 of
the VRAM SIMMs but leaving in the other two will not get you anything
because the 950 cannot really do anything with 1.5MB of VRAM. It only
knows 1MB and 2MB.
Yes, this is correct. You get to 1MB by putting 2 256k VRAM SIMMs
into the VRAM SIMM slots on the Q800's motherboard.
| 14 | trimmed_train |
6,536 | It is meaningless to compare one player's plus/minus statistic with
another players' out of the context of the role and the playing time
of the players involved.
To compare Jagr's and Francis's plus/minus is ridiculous and absurd... | 17 | trimmed_train |
1,245 |
?Huh? Okay, so I'm not Eric Molas, but even if that _is_ how he
feels about life, I disagree with it.
Life, to me, is definitely NOT meaningless; it has precisely the
purpose and meaning I choose to give it. I go on living because I _like_
living; if I needed any further reason, I'd be free - completely free! -
to pick any reason that suited me. That freedom can be almost
intoxicating; it's probably the closest I've ever been to a 'religious'
experience. I'm *very* glad I am an atheist; I wouldn't be anything
else.
Not unless, in explaining your own subjective experience, you also
try to convert him or proselytize. Merely explaining the effects you
personally experience religion as having on you, is not "infectious".
Not unless Eric is paranoid, that is. ;->
Whatever floats your goat. You sound happy enough; that's fairly
much all that matters, right?
Erh... Pardon, but it strikes me that sentence sounds reversible.
"Empty spot"? "God-shaped hole"? I hear such things a lot from
theists; never quite did understand what they were talking about.
I have no such 'emptiness' or 'hole'. Maybe some others do, I wouldn't
know; but I don't, and if I did, I'd seek help about it. Doesn't sound
like a mentally healthy situation at all, walking around with a 'hole'
in oneself.
Well, not having written that original post, I don't know if it
was intended to be interpreted in such a way; but, having reread it
carefully, I somewhat doubt it. At least, that's not how he gets across
to _me_, your mileage may vary...
| 0 | trimmed_train |
8,324 | >
> The reason is very simple: How many people do you want to die in a riot?
>In a new Civil War? | 7 | trimmed_train |
7,882 |
I had this one time. I attributed it to a lack of sleep since it disappeared
after a few nights of good zzz's.
| 19 | trimmed_train |
9,144 | Does any one out there listen to WFAN? For those of you who do
not know what I am talking about, it is an all sports radio
staion in New York. On a clear night the signal reaches up and
down the East coast. In particular, I want to know how Len
Berman and Mike Lupica's show is. I go to school in Virginia
so I can't listen when there are on during the day. Just
wondering.
Jonathan Alboum
UVA | 2 | trimmed_train |
10,619 |
The "face" is an accident of light and shadow. There are many "faces" in
landforms on Earth; none is artificial (well, excluding Mount Rushmore and
the like...). There is also a smiley face on Mars, and a Kermit The Frog.
The question of life in a more mundane sense -- bacteria or the like -- is
not quite closed, although the odds are against it, and the most that the
more orthodox exobiologists are hoping for now is fossils.
There are currently no particular plans to do any further searches for life.
Mars Observer, currently approaching Mars, will probably try to get a better
image or two of the "face" at some point. It's not high priority; nobody
takes it very seriously. The shadowed half of the face does not look very
face-like, so all it will take is one shot at a different sun angle to ruin
the illusion. | 10 | trimmed_train |
10,367 |
I'm not sure what you mean by 'saving face' unless you are confusing
the FBI with the BATF who are the ones who were in charge of the
original search warrant.
Independant Negotiators? What was there to negotiate? Any sort of plea
bargin has to be brought to the court, the negotiators can't negotiate
charges or sentences. FBI negotitators did make a deal for the
Dividians to come out. Koresh showed he was not negotiating in good
faith and there is no reason to believe independent negotiators
would have done any better. | 15 | trimmed_train |
9,887 |
Because there are about 40 homicides total (i.e. using guns, knives,
tire-irons, baseball bats, bare hands, etc...) in Switzerland
each year and 850 homicides, total, in England. That's three
times worse per capita in England than in Switzerland. Since
dead is dead, it really doesn't matter that 60% of the Switz
murders involved a gun or that only 0.9% of the English murderers
do. | 9 | trimmed_train |
2,410 |
I've had, and still have a few aluminum sticks. I got my first when I was 15
(a Christian), and broke the shaft halfway through the season, two years
later. I bought another (a Canadian) at the beginning of the next season,
and I still have it. I also have an Easton, that a friend was getting rid
off, after giving up the game. I find that Easton blades are easier to get,
but all brands of blades are pretty well interchangeable. Watch out for
dried up bits of firewood, that some stores pass off as blades. In my
experiences, the blades of an aluminum break more often than regular sticks,
but I've only ever broken one aluminum shaft.
I like aluminum sticks. The blades are quickly changed, even on the bench
if you have to. On the downside, the shaft won't break if you decide to
impale yourself on it :-)
Ciao,
Mark S. | 17 | trimmed_train |
2,117 | Article from as follows
| 2 | trimmed_train |
7,025 | >evidence of the 'yeast connection', I cannot guarantee their safety.
>For their incompetence, ripping off their lips is justified as far as
>I am concerned.
This doesn't sound like Candida Albicans to me. | 19 | trimmed_train |
4,578 | From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>
Subject: Poem by Erich Fried
Poem by German-Jewish poet Erich Fried (Holocaust survivor)
Ein Jude an die zionistischen Kaempfer - 1988
von Erich Fried
Was wollt ihr eigentlich ? Wollt ihr wirklich die uebertreffen
die euch niedergetreten haben vor einem Menschenalter in euer
eigenes Blut und in euren eigenen Kot ?
*
Wollt ihr die alten Foltern jetzt an andere weitergeben mit allen
blutigen dreckigen Einzelheiten mit allem brutalen Genuss die
Folterknechte wie unsere Vaeter sie damals erlitten haben ?
*
Wollt jetzt wirklich ihr die neue Gestapo sein die neue Wehrmacht
die neue SA and SS und aus den Palaestinensern die neuen Juden
machen ?
*
Aber dann will auch ich weil ich damals vor fuenfzig Jahren selbst
als ein Judenkind gepeinigt wurde von euren Peinigern ein neuer
Jude sein mit diesen neuen Juden zu denen ihr die Palaestinenser
macht
*
Und ich will sie zurueckfuehren helfen als freie Menschen in ihr
eigenes Land Palaestina aus dem ihr sie vertrieben habt oder in
dem ihr sie quaelt ihr Hakenkreuzlehrlinge ihr Narren und
Wechselbaelge der Weltgeschichte denen der Davidstern auf euren
Fahnen sich immer schneller verwandelt in das verfluchte Zeichen
mit den vier Fuessen das ihr nun nicht sehen wollt aber dessen Weg
ihr heut geht !
| 6 | trimmed_train |
8,661 | The following laserdisks are in used but "like-new" condition:
Category Title Price
=========================================================================
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"A blood-spattered tale of two little old
ladies who open a surprise package from Hell."
CLV Side 2 CAV 88 min.
Horror Forbidden World 20.00
"Subject 20 is half-human, and one of the
researchers is the father." Roger Corman, Prod.
CLV 77 min.
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"An alien creature has been waiting for a
million years to breed, and its time has come."
CLV 93 min.
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"...and in the upstairs shower, we have the
sexy Ms. Ginger Kowowski and this is where all
the chillingly frightful fun comes to a head."
CLV 92 min.
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"Swimwear Illustrated needs a cover girl and
the competition is fierce, very fierce.
CLV 85 min.
Comedy Hysterical 20.00
"It's a blend of timeless farce, contemporary
satire, nonsensical sight gags and dead people
singing and dancing." Hudson Brothers
CLV 90 min.
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"Valley Girl, Crystal, is back in another
superheated frolic through those "Hollywood
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"Scooter's in trouble now, his kidnappers
don't take credit cards." Martin Sheen
CLV 90 min.
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"The good citizens of Transylvania invite you
to this, the most frighteningly funny event of
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CLV 94 min.
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"Makes the "Married...With Children" gang look
sane! Just say NO to butt polish."
CLV 89 min.
Comedy Don't Tell Mom The Babysitter's Dead 20.00
"No rules. No curfews. No nagging. No pulse.
Home Alone times 5!" Christina Applegate
CLV 105 min.
Animated POPEYE at Sea 20.00
"9 hilarious cartoon adventures on the high
seas."
CLV 60 min. Color
Musical Babes in Toyland 20.00
Disney re-make of the classic with Annette,
Tommy Sands, Ray Bolger, and Ed Wynn.
CLV 105 min.
Action American Angels - Baptism of Blood 20.00
"Meet the first ladies of Wrestling!"
CLV 99 min.
Making of... Runaway Train/52 Pickup 20.00
"All of the behind the scenes action displayed
for your pleasure." Jon Voigt Ann-Margret
CAV 43 min.
Drama I Posed for Playboy 20.00
"When fantasy meets reality!" Lynda Carter
CLV 98 min.
Shipping costs of $5.00 per disk ($3.00/disk for 3 disks or more) will be
added to the total. 10% off of orders of 5 or more titles. No CODs.
MO or checks accepted in advance payment.
| 5 | trimmed_train |
8,322 | Derian Hatcher's game-misconduct penalty was rescinded by the NHL,
allowing the Minnesota defenseman to play in the North Stars' last two
regular-season games. Hatcher was given the penalty during a fight at
the end of a loss at St. Louis on Sunday, April 11. But the league
didn't rescind the game-misconduct penalty Shane Churla received. The
Stars recalled center Cal McGowan from their top minor league club in
Kalamazoo, Mich., to replace Churla.
The above is courtesy of The Washington Times on-line service.
Now, here's where I need help. If anyone out there has a tape of Tuesday's
Chicago-Minnesota game, please contact me. Terms will be favorable.
Also, if anyone can tape tonight's Minnesota-Detroit game, please contact
me. This could be quite important. Once again, I will make it worth
your trouble.
Thanks to all.
| 17 | trimmed_train |
1,082 | Anybody got any good/bad experience with selling their car through one of
those car hunters? I'm selling a 1991 Dodge Stealth R/T and I was contacted
by this company called the Markham group based out of Illinois.
They said they have 7-10 buyers in my area interested in my car or they wouldn't
be talking to me. They talked to me for a good 20 minutes asking everything
about my car and said they could sell it no problem. They guaranteed that if
they didn't sell my car in 75 days, I would get my money back ($389) and since
I charged it, I'm protected by federal law which states that if I'm not satisfied,
I would get a refund (which is true). They federal expressed all the paperwork
to me which had a contract stating their policy about the 75 days and such. | 4 | trimmed_train |
667 |
Have you gotten an answer yet? Using your variables, this is what I would do:
xterm -T "$HOST - $LOGNAME" -n "$HOST"
| 16 | trimmed_train |
9,948 |
Very possibly, but if it's still going to be backwards compatible
with the ISA bus, it's going to be the same tripe that the current EISA
implementation really is.
From what I've seen, the PCI bus will just be a new 32bit 33MHz
intelligent bus (ie, bus controller takes care of interrupts and the like,
not jumpers...) Hopefully it'll get somewhere up there with the AMIGA
Zorro III bus....
VL Bus is a bit too much of a hack for my liking... | 3 | trimmed_train |
9,387 |
I got two very similar sounding boards for dirt cheap, too. Their Assy
numbers were not 4000-series, but your description fits otherwise. They
are 3Com 3C505's aka Etherlink Plus cards. Check out ftp.3com.com, there
are drivers and diagnostic programs for just about any and all 3Com
cards. I concluded that my card was the 505 after I ran their diagnostic
program for 3C505 succesfully ("..passes with flying colours") :)
Anybody know of packet drivers for these cards under OS/2..?
| 3 | trimmed_train |
9,848 |
Sounds a lot more like an Opel GT to me. I'd guess that this is on the same
chassis as the Kadett, rather than the bigger Manta - but I could easily
be wrong. I think the later Kadett's were sold here as Buick Opels. | 4 | trimmed_train |
5,832 |
Actually, I was simply relaying the reasoning of this so-called genius BW
writer. I agree. The reasoning was foolish.
Next time, before you say something foolish, be aware what you are responding
to. | 2 | trimmed_train |
1,580 |
Of course you should be able to write a DD 720Kb disk without
making any holes. | 3 | trimmed_train |
3,410 | Archive-name: net-privacy/part3
Last-modified: 1993/3/3
Version: 2.1
NOTES on ANONYMITY on the INTERNET
==================================
Compiled by L. Detweiler <[email protected]>.
<8.1> What are some known anonymous remailing and posting sites?
<8.2> What are the responsibilities associated with anonymity?
<8.3> How do I `kill' anonymous postings?
<8.4> What is the history behind anonymous posting servers?
<8.5> What is the value of anonymity?
<8.6> Should anonymous posting to all groups be allowed?
<8.7> What should system operators do with anonymous postings?
<8.8> What is going on with anon.penet.fi maintained by J. Helsingius?
* * *
_____
<8.1> What are some known anonymous remailing and posting sites?
Currently the most stable of anonymous remailing and posting sites
is anon.penet.fi operated by [email protected] for several months, who
has system adminstrator privileges and owns the equipment.
Including anonymized mail, Usenet posting, and return addresses
(no encryption). Send mail to [email protected] for information.
Hal Finney has contributed an instruction manual for the cypherpunk
remailers on the ftp site soda.berkeley.edu (128.32.149.19):
pub/cypherpunks/hal's.instructions. See also scripts.tar.Z (UNIX
scripts to aid remailer use) and anonmail.arj (MSDOS batch files to
aid remailer use).
[email protected]
-----------------------------
Anonymized mail. Request information from above address.
[email protected]
-------------------------
Experimental anonymous remailer run Karl Barrus
<[email protected]>, with encryption to the server. Request
information from that address.
[email protected]
----------------------
Experimental remailer with encryption to server and return
addresses. Request information from above address.
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
----------------------
Experimental remailer. Include header `Request-Remailing-To'.
[email protected]
----------------------
Experimental remailer allowing one level of chaining. Run by
Chael Hall. Request information from above address.
[email protected]
-----------------------------
Experimental remailer with encryption to server. `finger' site
address for information.
Notes
=====
- Cypherpunk remailers tend to be unstable because they are often
running without site administrator knowledge. Liability issues
are wholly unresolved.
- So far, all encryption is based on public-key cryptography and PGP
software (see the question on cryptography).
- Encryption aspects (message text, destination address, replies)
vary between sites.
- Multiple chaining, alias unlinking, and address encryption are
mostly untested, problematic, or unsupported at this time.
_____
<8.2> What are the responsibilities associated with anonymity?
Users
-----
- Use anonymity only if you have to. Frivolous uses weaken the
seriousness and usefulness of the capability for others.
- Do not use anonymity to provoke, harass, or threaten others.
- Do not hide behind anonymity to evade established conventions on
Usenet, such as posting binary pictures to regular newsgroups.
- If posting large files, be attentive to bandwidth considerations.
Remember, simply sending the posting to the service increases
network traffic.
- Avoid posting anonymously to the regular hierarchy of Usenet; this
is the mostly likely place to alienate readers. The `alt'
hierarchy is preferred.
- Give as much information as possible in the posting (i.e.
references, etc.) Remember that content is the only means for
readers to judge the truth of the message, and that any
inaccuracies will tend to discredit the entire message and even
future ones under the same handle.
- Be careful not to include information that will reveal your
identity or enable someone to deduce it. Test the system by
sending anonymized mail to yourself.
- Be aware of the policies of the anonymous site and respect them.
Be prepared to forfeit your anonymity if you abuse the privilege.
- Be considerate and respectful of other's objections to anonymity.
- ``Hit-and-run'' anonymity should be used with utmost reservation.
Use services that provide anonymous return addresses instead.
- Be courteous to the system operator, who may have invested large
amounts of time, be personally risking his account, or dedicating
his hardware, all for your convenience.
Operators
---------
- Document thoroughly acceptable and unacceptable uses in an
introductory file that is sent to new users. Have a coherent and
consistent policy and stick to it. State clearly what logging and
monitoring is occurring. Describe your background, interest, and
security measures. Will the general approach be totalitarian or
lassaiz-faire?
- Formulate a plan for problematic ethical situations and anticipate
potentially intense moral quandaries and dilemmas. What if a user
is blackmailing someone through your service? What if a user
posts suicidal messages through your service? Remember, your
users trust you to protect them.
- In the site introductory note, give clear examples of situations
where you will take action and what these actions will be (e.g.
warn the user, limit anonymity to email or posting only, revoke
the account, 'out' the user, contact local administrator, etc.)
- Describe exactly the limitations of the software and hardware.
Address the bandwidth limitations of your site. Report candidly
and thoroughly all bugs that have occurred. Work closely with
users to isolate and fix bugs. Address all bugs noted below under
``(in)stability of anonymity''.
- Document the stability of the site---how long has it been running?
What compromises have occured? Why are you running it? What is
your commitment to it?
- Include a disclaimer in outgoing mail and messages. Include an
address for complaints, ideally appended to every outgoing item.
Consult a lawyer about your liability.
- Be committed to the long-term stability of the site. Be prepared
to deal with complaints and `hate mail' addressed to you. If you
do not own the hardware the system runs on or are not the system
adminstrator, consult those who do and are.
- Be considerate of providing anonymity to various groups. If
possible, query group readers.
- Keep a uniformity and simplicity of style in outgoing message
format that can be screened effectively by kill files. Ensure
the key text `Anon' is somewhere in every header.
- Take precautions to ensure the security of the server from
physical and network-based attacks and infiltrations.
Readers
-------
- Do not complain, attack, or discredit a poster for the sole reason
that he is posting anonymously, make blanket condemnations that
equate anonymity with cowardice and criminality, or assail
anonymous traffic in general for mostly neutral reasons (e.g. its
volume is heavy or increasing).
- React to the anonymous information unemotionally. Abusive posters
will be encouraged further if they get irrationally irate
responses. Sometimes the most effective response is silence.
- Notify operators if very severe abuses occur, such as piracy,
harassment, extortion, etc.
- Do not complain about postings being inappropriate because they
offend you personally.
- Use kill files to screen anonymous postings if you object to the
idea of anonymity itself.
- Avoid the temptation to proclaim that all anonymous postings
should be barred from particular groups because no `possible' or
`conceivable' need exists.
References
----------
See e.g. ftp.eff.org:/pub/academic/anonymity:
> This article is an excerpt from an issue of FIDONEWS on individual
> privacy and the use of handles. It accepts the need of a system
> operator to know the name of a user; but suggests that the use of
> a handle is analogous to a request to withhold the name in a
> letter to the editor. The article concludes with a set of
> guidelines for preserving the right to be anonymous.
_____
<8.3> How do I `kill' anonymous postings?
James Thomas Green <[email protected]>:
> Try putting this in your kill file:
>
> /Anon/h:j
> /Anonymous/h:j
>
> This will search the headers of the messages and kill any that
> contain `Anon' or `Anonymous' in them. Not perfect and won't
> kill followups.
Note that anonymous server operators have the capability to mask
anonymous postings under which the above method will not work; so
far this practice is not widespread, but it may become more common
as a countermeasure to widespread anonymous filtering.
_____
<8.4> What is the history behind anonymous posting servers?
Originally anonymous posting services were introduced for
individual, particularly volatile newsgroups, where anonymity is
almost the preferred method of communication, such as talk.abortion
and alt.sex.bondage. One of the first was one by Dave Mack
started in ~1988 for alt.sex.bondage. Another early one was
wizvax.methuen.ma.us run by Stephanie Gilgut (Gilgut Enterprises)
but was disbanded due to lack of funds. The system provided
anonymous return addresses. n7kbt.rain.com (John Opalko) took up
the functions of this server, including reinstating the anonymous
alias file. The group ``alt.personals has been chewing through
servers like there's no tomorrow.''
Spurred by the disappearance of `wizvax' and interested in
researching the idea, Karl Kleinpaste
<[email protected]> developed his own system
from scratch in six hours. By this time the idea of extending the
server to new, more `mainstream' groups was starting to emerge,
and he explored the possibility partly at the specific request by
multiple users for anonymity in other groups. ``The intended
advantage of my system was specifically to allow multiple group
support, with a single anon identifier across all. This was
arguably the single biggest deficiency of previous anon systems.''
K. Kleinpaste posted a message on rec.nude asking users whether an
anonymous service would be welcome there, and judged a consensus
against it.
K. Kleinpaste introduced what he calls a ``fire extinguisher'' to
`squelch' or `plonk' abusive users in response to complaints, and
used this in three cases. Nevertheless, after a few months of
intense traffic he was eventually overwhelmed by the abuses of his
server. ``Even as restricted as it was, my system was subjected to
abuses to the point where it was ordered dismantled by the
facilities staff here. Such abuses started right after it was
created.''
In ~Nov 1992, Johan Helsingius ([email protected]) set up the most
controversial anonymous site to date. anon.penet.fi is based on
scripts and C code written by K. Kleinpaste and supports anonymized
mail, posting, and return addresses. He initially wanted to confine
the service to Scandinavian users but expanded it to worldwide
accessability in response to 'lots' of international requests.
J. Helsingius policy of allowing anonymous posting to every Usenet
newsgroup has been met with strong and serious ideological
opposition (e.g. by news adminstrators in news.admin.policy).
Because of the relative newness and recent emergence of the medium,
abuses by anonymous posters tend to have higher visibility than
``routine'' abuses. His total commitment to preservation of
anonymity is also controversial.
For example, in a highly controversial and publicized case in ~Feb
1993, an anonymous user posted a supposed transcript of desperate
crew dialogue during the Challenger shuttle disaster via
anon.penet.fi to sci.astro. Despite that the transcript had been
posted in the same place up to a year earlier (then
non-anonymously) and actually originated not with the poster but a
New York news tabloid, subsequent responses consisted largely of
vociferous outrage at the poster's use of anonymity, reverberating
through many newsgroups.
The original poster, using the same anonymous handle, later conceded
that the story ``seemed likely to have been fabricated,''
suggesting the plausible possibility that the original intent was
not to provoke outrage but gauge reactions on the authenticity of
the story (albeit crudely), free of personal risk from perceived
association with the item. The ensuing commotion generated queries
for the original article by late-entering readers. The anonymous
user later posted deliberately offensive comments at his
detractors.
Despite piercingly irate and outraged complaints, and even the vocal
opposition and verbal abuse of K. Kleinpaste and eminent news
operators, J. Helsingius has largely avoided use of the ``fire
extingisher'' and the ``group bouncer'' mechanisms that limit the
scope of the service. As of ~March 1993 the anon.penet.fi site is
best described as `inundated': it has registered over 13,000 users
in its initial three months of operation, forwards ~3000 messages a
day, and approximately 5% of all Usenet postings are anonymized
through the site. The immense popularity is probably largely due
to the capability for `global' anonymity which has allowed users to
find creative uses in diverse areas not previously envisioned.
Johan Helsingius has been subject to extraordinary pressure to
dismantle his server in ~Feb 1993. At one point K. Kleinpaste
threatened publicly to organize a sort of vigilante group of irate
news operators to send out revocation commands on all messages
originating from the site. J. Helsingius has also alluded to
threats of flooding the server. The server has crashed several
times, at least once due to a saturation `mailbombing' through it
by an anonymous user. Mr. Helsingius reports spending up to 5
hours per day answering email requests alone associated with the
service's administration. In response to the serious threats he
disabled global group access temporarily for one week and
encouraged his users to defend the service publicly.
Based on fast-moving dialogue and creative suggestions by
``cypherpunks,'' J. Helsingius has identified many security
weaknesses and valuable new features for the service, and is
currently in the process of code development and testing. He is
planning on upgrading the IBM compatible 386 machine to a 486 soon
to handle the voluminous load and is considering integrating a new
system with very sophisticated functionality, including multiple
email aliases, alias allocation control, public-key encryption,
etc.
A very sophisticated anonymous posting system was set up in Dec.
1992 by D. Clunie <[email protected]> that used cryptography
in both directions (to/from) the server for the highest degree of
confidentiality seen so far. However, it was running on a public
access account, and he had to shut it down after only several
weeks, upon receiving requests and conditions apparently ultimately
originating from NSF representatives. D. Clunie has released the
software to the public domain.
Recently the idea of a newsgroup devoted to `whistleblowing' on
government abuses has received wide and focused attention, and
group formation is currently underway. In the basic scenario the
group would allow people to post pseudonymously using remailers,
and even establish reputations based on their authentifiable
digital signatures. The traffic may eventually reach reporters in
the mainstream news media. [email protected] has volunteered to
attack multiple aspects of this project, including distributing
easy-to-read documentation on posting, anonymization, and
encryption.
See also sections on ``views on anonymous posting'' below and ``what
is going on with anon.penet.fi?'' in this document.
(Thanks to Carl Kleinpaste
<[email protected]>, David Clunie
<[email protected]> and Johan Helsingius <[email protected]> for
contributions here.)
_____
<8.5> What is the value of anonymity?
[email protected]:
> I think anonymous posts do help in focusing our attention on the
> content of one's message. Sure lot of anonymous posts are abusive
> or frivolous but in most cases these are by users who find the
> anon facility novel. Once the novelty wears off they are stopping
> their pranks...
[email protected] (Wes Morgan):
> I don't mind seeing the miscellaneous hatred/prejudice/racism;
> those things are part of our nature. However, the notion of
> providing anonymity's shield for these ideas repulses me. If
> they have such strong feelings, why can't they put their name(s)
> on their postings? ... Quite frankly, I loathe communication
> with people who refuse to use their names.
[email protected] (David Clunie)
> Many seem to question the value of anonymity. But who are they to
> say what risks another individual should take ? There is no
> question that in this rather conservative society that we live
> in, holding certain views, making certain statements, adopting a
> certain lifestyle, are likely to result in public censure,
> ridicule, loss of status, employment, or even legal action. Given
> the heterogeneity of the legal jurisdictions from where the many
> contributors to usenet post, who knows what is legal and what is
> not ! Some say that anonymous posters are "cowards" and should
> stand up and be counted. Perhaps that is one point of view but
> what right do these detractors have to exercise such censorship ?
From: [email protected] (Doug Sewell)
> Why is it censorship to not expect someone to speak for
> themselves, without the cloak of anonymity. This is at best a
> lame argument.
>
> You tell me why what you have to say requires anonymity. And you
> tell me why the wishes of a majority of non-anonymous users of a
> newsgroup should be disregarded when they don't want anonymous
> posts.
>
> Anonymous users have LESS rights than any others. They are not
> legitimate usenet participants. I would not honor RFDs, CFVs,
> control messages, or votes from one.
[email protected] (Brad Templeton):
> I can think of no disadvantage caused by anon posting sites that
> doesn't already exist, other than the fact that they do make more
> naive net users who don't know how to post anonymously the old
> way more prone to do it.
From: [email protected] (Tom Mandel)
> I cannot speak for others but I regard anonymous postings in a
> serious discussion as pretty much worthless. ... views that hide
> behind the veil of anon are hardly worth the trouble of reading.
[email protected] (Hank Pankey)
> Since I began posting anonymously (to show support for general
> principles of personal privacy) I have been subject to far more
> abuse and attack than I ever received before. People seem to
> find it easier to flame and insult someone whose name they don't
> know. Perhaps it's easier to pretend that there is no person
> behind the email address who feels the sting of abusive comments.
>
> Anonymity does hinder some methods of controlling other posters'
> actions. People who seek such control will naturally oppose it.
From: [email protected]
> Instead of making this a "free-er medium" by allowing posters to
> "protect themselves" with anonymity, simply require that all
> posters be prepared to discuss their sources of information and
> take the heat for unsubstantiated dribble. This seems to be the
> way things are currently done;
[email protected] (Kate Gregory):
> In misc.kids there are three threads going on started by anonymous
> posters. One was about changing jobs so as to work less hours,
> job sharing and so on, from a woman who didn't want anyone at her
> current place of work to know she was thinking of looking for
> work elsewhere. The next was from a woman who is thinking of
> having a baby sometime soon and doesn't want coworkers, friends,
> family etc etc to know all about it, but who wants advice. The
> third is about sex after parenthood -- actually this was started
> by people posting in the usual way but then it was pointed out
> that the anonymous posting service might let more people
> participate.
>
> Misc.kids doesn't seem to be suffering any harm from the presence
> of anonymous posters; in fact it seems to have been helped by it.
[email protected] (Dan Hoey):
> While there has never been any real security against anonymous or
> forged postings on Usenet, the process has until now been
> sufficiently inconvenient, error-prone, and undocumented to limit
> its use by persons who have not learned the culture of the net.
>
> On the other hand, a recent use of the anonymous posting service
> on sci.math seemed seemed to be a student asking help on a
> homework problem. It has now been attributed to a teacher,
> asking for an explanation of a dubious answer in his teaching
> guide. He says his news posting is broken, so he is using the
> anonymous service as a mail-to-news gateway.
Karl Barrus <[email protected]>
> Some argue that the opinions of the people who hide behind a veil
> of anonymity are worthless, and that people should own up to
> their thoughts. I agree with the latter point - in an ideal
> world we would all be sitting around engaging in Socratic
> dialogues, freely exchanging our opinions in an effort to
> learn. But in an ideal world nobody will threaten you for your
> thoughts, or ridicule you.
>
> But we live in a world where the people who don't agree with you
> may try to harm you. Let's face it, some people aren't going to
> agree with your opinion no matter how logically you try to
> present it, or how reasoned out it may be. This is sad since it
> does restrict people from voicing their opinions.
[email protected] (Richard E. Depew):
> The consensus seems to be that a general anonymous posting service
> such as that at anon.penet.fi seems sufficiently corrosive of the
> trust and civility of the net that this particular experiment
> should be ended. Perhaps the next time the question comes up we
> can say: "We tried it - we learned it does more harm than good -
> and we stopped it."
From: [email protected] (Alexander EICHENER)
> anonymous posting has not created major problems aside from
> angering irate people (like you?) who would rather ban
> anonymous/pseudonymous posting altogether because "real men can
> stand up for what they said" or comparable puerile arguments as
> others have brought up.
[email protected] (Dave Hayes):
> What a primal example of human nature. I have three questions for
> you folks.
>
> Do people really say different things to each other based upon
> whether their identity is or isn't known?
>
> Are people really so affected by what other people say that the
> verbage is labeled "abuse"?
>
> Most importantly, on a forum that prizes itself on the freedom of
> communication that it enjoys, is there really such a thing as
> freedom of communication?
From: [email protected] (Terry McGonigal)
> <sigh>... Just how many anon services are needed? Will
> *everybody* start running one soon? What's the purpose? Who
> stands to benefit when there are N anon services, then 2*N, then
> N^2, out there. Where *has* this sudden fasination with anon
> services come from?
>
> For better or (IMHO) worse, it looks like we'er gonna get stuck
> with these things, and as much as I don't like the idea (of
> services like this becoming the norm) I don't really think
> there's much to be done since it's obvious that anyone who wants
> to can set one up with a bit of work.
[email protected] (Karl Kleinpaste):
> Weak reasoning.
> With freedom comes responsibility.
[email protected] (Dave Hayes):
> Responsibility isn't real if it is enforced. True responsibilty
> comes with no coercion.
_____
<8.6> Should anonymous posting to all groups be allowed?
[email protected] (Wes Morgan):
> I will be the first to admit that I hold some controversial
> opinions; indeed, I'm sure that none of us are completely
> orthodox in our opinions. However, I've received *hundreds* of
> anonymous email messages over the last few years; fewer than 20
> of them were "reasonable posts made with good motives." It's
> getting more and more difficult to remember why we need anonymity
> at all; the abusers are (once again) lousing things up for those
> who truly need the service (or those who would put it to good
> use).
>
> I'm not suggesting that we should ban anonymous servers; as I've
> said, there are several situations in which anonymity is a Good
> Thing (tm).
>
> However, the notion that anonymity's shield should be
> automatically extended to every Usenet discussion is ridiculous;
> it opens the door to further abuse.
[email protected] (Tim Pierce):
> Of course, how does one determine whether a "group" requests the
> service? A flat majority of posters voting in favor? A positive
> margin of 100 votes? Or what? No one speaks for a newsgroup.
>
> I'm not convinced by the arguments that an anonymous posting
> service for all newsgroups is inherently a bad idea, simply
> because it's a diversion from the status quo. Since the status
> quo previously permitted anonymous posting to *no* newsgroups,
> any anonymous posting service would reject the status quo.
> It is facist to suggest that a newsgroup is best able to decide
> whether it wants to allow anonymous postings instead of having
> them forced upon them by an service administrator?
[email protected] (Brian W. Ogilvie):
> The service provides a mechanism for forwarding mail to the
> original poster. Since most Usenet readers don't know John Smith
> from Jane Doe except by their opinions and their address, the
> effect of having an anonymous posting to which mail replies can
> be directed is minimal, except for those who personally know the
> poster--and ... the lack of anonymity could be serious. Any
> mechanism like this is liable to abuse, but the benefits as well
> as the costs must be weighed. Limiting the service to alt groups,
> or specific groups, would not help those who want advice on
> sensitive issues in more 'professional' newsgroups.
From: [email protected] (Tarl Neustaedter)
> An additional point is that some of us find anonimity in technical
> matters to be profoundly offensive; anonimity in different forums
> has different meanings. If I get a phone call from someone who
> won't identify himself, I hang up. If I get U.S. mail with no
> return address, it goes into the garbage unopened. If someone
> accosts me in the street while wearing a mask, I back away -
> carefully, and expecting violence. In a technical discussion,
> anonimity means that the individual isn't willing to associate
> himself with the matter being discussed, which discredits his
> utterances and makes listening to them a waste of time.
>
> Anonimity leads to fun psych experiments; the literature is filled
> with all the various things that people will do anonymously that
> they won't otherwise. Including one notorious study involving
> torture that would not have passed today's ethical standards. Fun
> stuff, in any case.
>
> FINE. LEAVE US OUT OF IT.
From: [email protected] (Joe Buck)
> You obviously have never submitted an article to a refereed
> journal, where you will receive anonymous reviews through a server
> (the editor) that behaves much like the one in Finland (e.g. you
> may reply and the editor will maintain the anonymity). ... Your
> comparison of someone who wants to express him/herself on a
> technical issue anonymously with a person who approaches you on a
> dark street with a ski mask is just emotionally overwrought
> nonsense; such posters pose no physical threat to you.
[email protected] (J. Kamens):
> It seems obvious to me that the default should be *not* to allow
> anonymous postings in a newsgroup. The Usenet has always
> operated on the principle that the status quo should be kept
> unless there's a large number of people who want to change it.
>
> If someone REALLY needs to post a message anonymous in a newsgroup
> in which this usually isn't done, they can usually find someone
> on the net to do this for them. They don't need an automated
> service to do it, and the automated service is by its nature
> incapable of making the judgment call necessary to decide whether
> a particular posting really needs to be anonymous.
From: [email protected] (Tim Pierce)
> For any newsgroup you name, I bet I can envision a scenario
> involving a need for secrecy. If an accurate content-based
> filter of each anonymous posting could be devised to screen out
> those that don't require secrecy, wonderful. But it can't be
> done.
From: [email protected] (Lasse Hiller|e Petersen)
> If a newsgroup wants to be noise- and nuisance-free, then it
> should call for moderation. This should happen on a per-newsgroup
> basis, and not as a general USENET ban on anonymous postings. Of
> course one principle of moderation might be to keep out all
> anonymous postings, and could be achieved automatically. It would
> still be _moderation_. Personally I would prefer moderation
> criteria being based on actual content.
David A. Clunie ([email protected])
> If a "group" doesn't want to receive certain posts it should
> become moderated - there are clearly defined mechanisms on
> non-alt groups for this to take place. An automated moderator
> excluding posts from certain (eg. anonymous) sites or individuals
> could easily be established. If anyone wants to take such a
> draconian approach then they are welcome to do so and good luck
> to them. I doubt if I will be reading their group !
From: [email protected] (Dave Ratcliffe)
> What possible need would someone have for posting anonymously to a
> sci.* group?
>
> Sure most adults are willing to post under their own names. Why
> would they want to hide behind an anonymous posting service?
> Ashamed of what they have to say or just trying to rile people
> without fear of being identified?
>
> Anonymous posting have their place in CERTAIN groups. If I or
> anyone else needs to tell you what those groups are then you've
> been on another planet breathing exotic gases for too long.
From: [email protected]
> It's bloody fascinating that (all?) the proponents of unimpeded
> universal anon posting access can't seem to find any middle
> ground at all. Why is there such a perception of
> absolutism? Where does this instant gratification syndrome come
> from, "I want anon access and I want it NOW"? Who are the
> control freaks here?
From: [email protected]
> Remember, this is a newsgroup for posters writing about SCIENTIFIC
> issues. Anonymous discussion of scientific issues leads to bad
> science.
From: [email protected] (Jon Noring)
> Though many have personal philosophical arguments against
> anonymous posters, their arguments have not been compelling
> enough to convince me that omni-newsgroup anonymous posting
> should be banned or severely restricted. Though I cannot prove
> it, it seems to me that those who do not like anonymous posting
> (in principle) do so for reasons that are personal (read,
> psychological discomfort) rather than for reasons related to
> maintaining the "integrity" of Usenet.
>
> Remember, it is impossible to be able to ascertain all the
> conceivable and legitimate motives for anonymous posting to
> newsgroups one normally would not deem to be "sensitive". ... in
> general, I fear even letting newsgroup readers vote on either
> allowing or not allowing anonymous posting, since a priori they
> *cannot* know all the motives of *legitimate* posters, and I do
> not believe that any system should ever be instituted that would
> inhibit the posting of legitimate and informative posts.
> I personally don't believe that pseudonymous postings are
> appropriate in a serious discussion area. If there is a
> LEGITIMATE reason for concealing the posters' identity, perhaps,
> but simply because they're not so sure if they want their name
> attached doesn't qualify as LEGITIMATE in my book. (Oh, and if
> you can come up with a legitimate purpose for anonymous postings,
> please, enlighten me.)
[email protected] (Stuart P. Derby)
> Three of our (the U.S.'s) founding fathers, Madison, Hamilton, and
> Jay, seemed to think "anonymous posting" was OK. The Federalist
> papers were originally printed in New York newspapers with
> authorship attributed to "Publius". I wonder if you would find
> their purpose "LEGITIMATE"?
_____
<8.7> What should system operators do with anonymous postings?
From: [email protected] (Ed McGuire)
> I would like to know how to junk all articles posted by the
> anonymous service currently being discussed. Ideally I would
> actually tell my feed site not to feed me articles posted by the
> anonymous service. Assuming the C News Performance Release, what
> is a simple way to accomplish this? Or where should I look to
> learn how to do it myself?
From: [email protected] (David Clunie)
> That's a bit draconian isn't it ? Have your users unanimously
> decided that they would like you to do this or have you decided
> for them ?
From: [email protected] (Ed McGuire)
> Good question. Nobody has decided. I have no definite plan to do
> this, just wanted the technical data.
Carl Kleinpaste ([email protected]):
> ...were I to be in the position of offering such a service again,
> my promises of protection of anonymity would be limited. Not on
> the basis of personal opinion of what gets posted, but on the
> basis of postings which disrupt the smooth operation of the
> Usenet. The most obvious and direct recourse would be to `out'
> the abusive individual. Less drastic possibilities exist -- the
> software supports a "fire extinguisher" by which individuals can
> be prevented from posting.
[email protected] (John Hascall):
> Since when is Usenet a democracy? If someone wants to run an
> anonymous service, that's their business. If you want to put
> that host in your killfile, that's your business. If a newsadmin
> wants to blanket-drop all postings from that site, that's between
> them and the other people at that site. If everyone ignores a
> service, the service effectively doesn't exist.
From: [email protected] (Jonathan I. Kamens)
> NNTP servers that allow posting from anyone are NOT "a service to
> the net." They do the net a disservice.
>
> Terminal servers have the same problems as open NNTP servers --
> they allow people who want to do illegal/immoral/unethical things
> on the Internet to do so without accountability.
>
> There are, by now, public access sites all over this country, if
> not all over the world, that allow very inexpensive access to the
> Usenet and the Internet. There is no reason for NNTP servers to
> allow anyone to post messages through them, and there is no
> reason for terminal servers to allow anyone to connect to them
> and then make outbound connections through them. Perhaps when it
> was harder to get to the Internet or the Usenet, open servers
> could be justified, but not now.
[email protected] (Jurgen Botz):
> I think that what ... these points show clearly is that an
> anonymous posting service has a great deal of responsibility,
> both towards its clients and towards the Net as a whole. Such a
> service should (IMHO) have a set of well-defined rules and a
> contract that its clients should sign, under the terms of which
> they are assured anonymity.
From: [email protected]
> Is the problem that some are used to "punishing" posters who are
> upsetting in some vague way by complaining to the (usually
> acquiescent) sysadmin or organizations that the poster belongs
> to? That surely is the most gutless approach to solving
> problems, but my experience on the net shows that the same users
> who vilify anonymous postings are the first to write obsessively
> detailed grievances to the poster's supervisor when his or her
> tranquility is disturbed by some "intrusive" or subversive post
> or another.
>
> Anonymous postings prevent just this kind of intimidation.
From: [email protected] (Eric Schilling)
> The main point I would like to make here is that while we can go
> through and revise the news sw to "reject anon posts to technical
> newsgroups" or some such thing, I think the attempt will prove
> futile. Each attempt to modify news can result in a changed
> approach by anon service providers to thwart the change. I think
> this would be pointless.
From: [email protected] (Johan Helsingius)
> I have tried to stay out of this discussion, and see where the
> discussion leads. But now I rally feel like I have to speak up.
> ... I have repeatedly made clear ... that I *do* block users if
> they continue their abuse after having been warned. In many cases
> the users have taken heed of the warning and stopped, and in some
> cases even apologized in public. And when the warning has not had
> the desired effect, I have blocked a number of users. I have also
> blocked access to groups where the readership has taken a vote to
> ban anonymous postings, although I feel changing the newsgroup
> status to moderated is the only permanent solution for newsgroups
> that want to "formalize" discussion.
[email protected] (Richard E. Depew)
> Does this ... mean that you are volunteering to issue a Request
> For Discussion to ban anonymous postings or to moderate each of
> the 4000+ newsgroups that your server can reach? I don't think
> so, but this illustrates the trouble that your server is causing!
>
> please listen to the consensus of the news administrators in this
> group: any newsgroup should be consulted *before* letting your
> server post messages to that group.
From: [email protected] (Alexander EICHENER)
> There is no pompous "consensus of *the* news administrators"
> here - maybe you would like to invent one. There is a sizeable
> number of people who are concerned about the possible (and, to a
> minor extent, about the actual abuse of the server as it is
> configured now). These concerns are respectable; Johan is dealing
> with them. ... There are some (few) who rage with foam before
> their mouth and condemn the service altogether. And a number who
> defend it, pointing out, like Kate Gregory, that even a group
> like misc.kids. can benefit from pseudonymous postings.
From: [email protected] (Johan Helsingius)
> I have answered a lot of personal mail related to server abuse,
> and as a result of that, blocked a number of abusive users. I
> have also withdrawn the service from several newsgroups where the
> users have taken a vote on the issue. I have not made any
> comments on news.admin.policy, partly because the
> newly-implemented password feature (as a emergency measure
> against a security hole) has kept me really busy answering user
> queries the last two weeks, and partly because I feel it is not
> for me to justify the service, but for the users. The problem
> with news.admin.policy is that the readership is rather elective,
> representing people whith a strong interest in centralised
> control.
From: [email protected] (Richard M. Hartman)
> This seems to be a rather bigoted attitude. I would consider that
> this group is for anyone who wishes to discuss how the net should
> be controlled. Saying that we only have an interest in
> "centralized control" is a clear indication of bias. You are
> perfectly welcome to join in the discussions here to promote your
> views on control.
[email protected]
> This whole debate is a lot of "sound and fury signifying nothing"
> because, even if you all decide to ban anonymous posting servers,
> it is not enforceable. The only people who conceivably could
> enforce retrictions are those that control the international
> links.
>
> Policy changes should be made by cooperation, not by attempting
> to dictate. ...you need to persuade those who run the services
> to act like this through friendly persuasion, not by trying to
> beat them over the head with a stick (especially a stick you
> don't even have).
[email protected] (Steve Pope)
> I am finding this bias against pseudonymity boring. Our friend
> posting through penet has a point. The old guard would like to
> keep their network the way it always has been... and this new
> thing, these pseudonymous servers, cuts into their turf. So they
> whine and bitch about it, and every time there's the slightest
> abuse (such as somebody's .sig being too long), they try to
> parlay that into an argument against pseudonymity.
>
> I'll go on record as saying: three cheers for the admins at anon
> servers like penet, pax, and n7kbt... and for all the access
> service providers who are willing to preserve their clients
> privacy.
>
> And a pox on those who try to defeat and restrict pseudonymity.
[email protected] (Al Billings)
> I wouldn't help people get rid of anon postings as a group. If you
> don't like what someone says, then you put THAT anon address in
> your kill file, not all of them. Of course, if and when I get an
> anon site going, I'm just going to assign fake names like
> "jsmith" instead of "anon5564" to avoid most of the hassles.
> You'll never know it is anonymous will you?
From: [email protected] (Anne Bennett)
> I must admit to some astonishment at this argument. I see the
> value of anonymous postings under some circumstances, yet believe
> strongly that these should be identified as such, so that people
> who do not wish to read material from people who won't identify
> themselves, don't have to.
>
> I fail to see what good you would be accomplishing, and indeed
> surmise that you will cause many people inconvenience and
> annoyance, by hiding the anonymity of postings from your
> anonymous site. Would you care to justify where the hell you get
> the gall to try to prevent people from effectively filtering
> their news as they see fit?
From: [email protected] (David Clunie)
> I thought I was out of reach here in Australia too. Unfortunately
> one of the US sites involved in the US/Aus feed complained to the
> Australian Academic Reasearch Network through whom my site is
> connected, not about anything in particular, just the concept of
> anonymous mail having no redeeming features and consuming a
> narrow bandwidth link (with which I can't argue) and that was
> that ... stop the service or face disconnection.
>
> I consider the demise of [my] service to have been rather
> unfortunate, and I wish the Finnish remailer luck ! It is a pity
> that there are very few if any similar services provided with in
> the US. I guess that's the benefit of having a constitution that
> guarantees one freedom of speech and a legal and political system
> that conspires to subvert it in the name of the public good.
_____
<8.8> What is going on with anon.penet.fi run by J. Helsingius?
From: [email protected]
> Funny, how beating the rest of the Usenet over the head with a
> stick is OK if it's anon.penet.fi and universal anon access. But
> somehow people on the other side of the same equation (not even
> arguing to shut it off entirely, but rather just to have some
> control applied to the abuses that manifest themselves) aren't
> allowed to do that.
>
> I have written to Johan several times in the last couple of
> weeks. He used to reply to me quite readily. After all, I was
> the source of the software as originally delivered to him -- he
> used to be downright _prompt_ about replying to me. Funny, now
> he's being an impolite bastard who doesn't answer mail _at_all_,
> even when it consists of really very civil queries.
From: [email protected] (Johan Helsingius)
> In your mail you told me you sent me one or more messages on Feb.
> 8th. Feb 7th and 8th the server was down, and the flood of mail
> that resulted from the server coming up again crashed my own mail
> host. The problem was aggregated by an abusive user sending
> thousands of messages to another user, filling up that users
> mailbox. The bounce messages ended up in my mailbox, overflowing
> my local disk as well.
>
> I can only suppose that your message got lost in that hassle, as
> I have tried to answer as much as possible of the anon-related
> messages I get, from routine mis-addessed messages to complaints
> about the service. On the average I spend 4-5 hours per day
> answering anon-related messages.
From: [email protected]
> Why is it that everybody else has to put up with the impoliteness
> and insensitivity of the misuse of anon.penet.fi? Whose
> definitions of "polite" and "sense" apply, and why? Why is
> universal anon access considered to be within the realm of this
> fuzzy concept of "politeness" in the first place?
>
> I think Johan has long since crossed the line into being a rude
> bastard, and I told him so in private mail a little while ago.
>
> At this point, I deeply regret [a] having created an anonymous
> system supporting >1 newsgroup and [b] having given the code to
> Johan. I didn't copyright it, but I thought that some concept of
> politeness and good sense might follow it to new
> homes. Interesting that Johan's ideas of politeness and good
> sense seem to have nearly no interesection with mine. I could
> even cope with universal anon access _if_ Johan would be willing
> to engage in abuse control, but somehow that seems to be outside
> the range of reality...
From: [email protected] (Johan Helsingius)
> There is no way for me to convey how sad and upset your message
> made me. I do, to some extent, understand your feelings, but it
> still feels really bad. Running the server requires getting used
> to a lot of flames, but mindlessly abusive hate mail is so much
> easier to deal with than something like this, as I do respect and
> value your views and opinions to a high degree. No, I'm not
> asking for sympathy, I just wanted you to know that I am really
> giving your views quite a lot of weight.
>
> When I asked for the software, I was actually only going to
> provide the service to scandinavian users. But a lot of people
> requested that I keep the service open to the international
> community. I now realize that I ought to have contacted you at
> that point to ask how you feel about me using your stuff in such
> a context. Again, I really want to apologise. And I will replace
> the remaining few pieces of code thet still stem from your
> system. Unfortunately there is no way to remove the ideas and
> structure I got from you.
>
> Again, I am really sorry that the results of your work ended up
> being used in a way that you don't approve of. And I will be
> giving a lot of hard thought to the possibility of shutting down
> the server alltogether.
From: [email protected]
> I think I'm feeling especially rude and impolite. If it's good
> for Johan, it's good for me. After all, he didn't ask the
> greater Usenet whether universal anon access was a good idea; he
> just did it. ... Yes, I'm a seriously rude pain in the ass now,
> and I think I'll arm the Usenet Death Penalty, slightly modified,
> not for strategic whole-site attack, but tactical assault, just
> "an[0-9]*@anon.penet.fi" destruction. Only outside alt.*, too,
> let's say.
>
> To parrot this line...people have been doing things like the UDP
> (that is, cancelling others' postings) for years, no one could
> ever stop them, and it's only politeness and good sense that has
> prevented them up to now.
>
> In fact, I have 8 people who have expressed privately the desire
> and ability to arm the UDP.
>
> ...
>
> PS- No, in fact there are not 8 newsadmins ready to arm the
> UDP. It would be amusing to know how many people gulped hard
> when they read that, though. I don't see it as any different
> from Johan's configuration.
>
> PPS- Now that I've calmed some fears by the above PS... There
> are 2 newsadmins ready to arm the UDP. They've asked for my
> code. I haven't sent it yet. Only one site would be necessary
> to bring anon.penet.fi to a screeching halt. Anyone can
> implement the UDP on their own, if they care to. Politeness and
> good sense prevents them from doing so. I wonder how long before
> one form of impoliteness brings on another form.
From: [email protected] (Johan Helsingius)
> It would be trivially easy to bring anon.penet.fi to a screeching
> halt. In fact it has happened a couple of times already. But as
> we are talking threats here, let me make one as well. A very
> simple one. If somebody uses something like the UDP or
> maliciously brings down anon.penet.fi by some other means, it
> will stay down. But I will let the users know why. And name the
> person who did it. OK? As somebody said on this thread: "You have
> to take personal responsibility for your actions", right?
From: [email protected] ( 134 Atul V Salgaonkar)
> I am very grateful and appreciative of this service , courtesey of
> penet.fi. Some important questions about my personal
> life/career/job were resolved due to kind help of other people
> who had been thru similar situations. In return, I have also
> replied to anon postings where I thought I could make a positive
> contribution.
>
> In general, anon service is a great, in my opinion, although like
> any tool some people will not use it responsibly. I suggest that
> it should be kept alive. Wasting bandwidth is less important than
> saving lives, I think.
From: [email protected] (Elisa J. Collins)
> I have been informed that the anonymous posting service to many
> newsgroups has been turned off as a result of discussions in this
> newsgroup over people abusing it.
>
> I had been posting to a nontechnical misc newsgroup about an
> intimate topic for which I felt I required privacy. I have
> received immeasurable help from the people in that newsgroup, and
> I have never used anonymity to behave in an abusive, immature, or
> unethical fashion toward anyone.
>
> Please, folks, believe me, I *need* this service. Please
> consider my point of view and permit [email protected] to turn
> the service back on...
>
> Thank you.
* * *
SEE ALSO
========
Part 1 (first file)
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<1.1> What is `identity' on the internet?
<1.2> Why is identity (un)important on the internet?
<1.3> How does my email address (not) identify me and my background?
<1.4> How can I find out more about somebody from their email address?
<1.5> Why is identification (un)stable on the internet?
<1.6> What is the future of identification on the internet?
<2.1> What is `privacy' on the internet?
<2.2> Why is privacy (un)important on the internet?
<2.3> How (in)secure are internet networks?
<2.4> How (in)secure is my account?
<2.5> How (in)secure are my files and directories?
<2.6> How (in)secure is X Windows?
<2.7> How (in)secure is my email?
<2.8> How am I (not) liable for my email and postings?
<2.9> How do I provide more/less information to others on my identity?
<2.10> Who is my sysadmin? What does s/he know about me?
<2.11> Why is privacy (un)stable on the internet?
<2.12> What is the future of privacy on the internet?
<3.1> What is `anonymity' on the internet?
<3.2> Why is `anonymity' (un)important on the internet?
<3.3> How can anonymity be protected on the internet?
<3.4> What is `anonymous mail'?
<3.5> What is `anonymous posting'?
<3.6> Why is anonymity (un)stable on the internet?
<3.7> What is the future of anonymity on the internet?
Part 2 (previous file)
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<4.1> What UNIX programs are related to privacy?
<4.2> How can I learn about or use cryptography?
<4.3> What is the cypherpunks mailing list?
<4.4> What are some privacy-related newsgroups? FAQs?
<4.5> What is internet Privacy Enhanced Mail (PEM)?
<4.6> What are other Request For Comments (RFCs) related to privacy?
<4.7> How can I run an anonymous remailer?
<4.8> What are references on privacy in email?
<4.9> What are some email, Usenet, and internet use policies?
<4.10> What is the MIT ``CROSSLINK'' anonymous message TV program?
<5.1> What is ``digital cash''?
<5.2> What is a ``hacker'' or ``cracker''?
<5.3> What is a ``cypherpunk''?
<5.4> What is `steganography' and anonymous pools?
<5.5> What is `security through obscurity'?
<5.6> What are `identity daemons'?
<5.7> What standards are needed to guard electronic privacy?
<6.1> What is the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF)?
<6.2> Who are Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility (CPSR)?
<6.3> What was `Operation Sun Devil' and the Steve Jackson Game case?
<6.4> What is Integrated Services Digital Network (ISDN)?
<6.5> What is the National Research and Education Network (NREN)?
<6.6> What is the FBI's proposed Digital Telephony Act?
<6.7> What other U.S. legislation is related to privacy on networks?
<6.8> What are references on rights in cyberspace?
<6.9> What is the Computers and Academic Freedom (CAF) archive?
<7.1> What is the background behind the Internet?
<7.2> How is Internet `anarchy' like the English language?
<7.3> Most Wanted list
<7.4> Change history
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10,944 |
First, I enjoyed reading your post. Second, I disagree with the Pen's weak
spot being defense and goaltending - for a couple of reasons. Barrasso has
had a spectacular year - no slow start, consistently sharp, GAA < 3.0, and
leads the league in wins. Tommy deserves the Vezina. Given the lack of
respect he commands, though, I doubt he will win it. The other reason
concerns the Pens' team defense. They are hovering around 3rd or 4th in the
fewest goals allowed. That is a big improvement for them, and it indicates
that they are playing better team defense.
We'll see. It'll be fun. | 17 | trimmed_train |
4,589 | Sorry I missed you Raymond, I was just out in Dahlgren last month...
I'm the Virtual Reality market manager for Silicon Graphics, so perhaps I
can help a little.
Unfortunately, while SGI systems were used to create the special effects
for both Terminator 2 and Lawnmower Man, those are film-quality computer
graphics, rendered in software and written to film a frame at a time. Each
frame of computer animation for those films took hours to render on
high-end parallel processing computer systems. Thus, that level of graphics
would be difficult, if not impossible, to acheive in real time (30 frames
per second).
It depends upon how serious you are and how advanced your application is.
True immersive visualization (VR), requires the rendering of complex visual
databases at anywhere from 20 to 60 newly rendered frames per second. This
is a similar requirement to that of traditional flight simulators for pilot
training. If the frame rate is too low, the user notices the stepping of
the frames as they move their head rapidly around the scene, so the motion
of the graphics is not smooth and contiguous. Thus the graphics system
must be powerful enough to sustain high frame rates while rendering complex
data representations.
Additionally, the frame rate must be constant. If the system renders 15
frames per second at one point, then 60 frames per second the next (perhaps
due to the scene in the new viewing direction being simpler than what was
visible before), the user can get heavily distracted by the medium (the
graphics computer) rather than focusing on the data. To maintain a constant
frame rate, the system must be able to run in real-time. UNIX in general
does not support real-time operation, but Silicon Graphics has modified the
UNIX kernel for its multi-processor systems to be able to support real-time
operation, bypassing the usual UNIX process priority-management schemes.
Uniprocessor systems running UNIX cannot fundamentally support real-time
operation (not Sun SPARC10, not HP 700 Series systems, not IBM RS-6000, not
even SGI's uniprocessor systems like Indigo or Crimson). Only our
multiprocessor Onyx and Challenge systems support real-time operation due
to their Symmetric Multi-Processing (SMP) shared-memory architecture.
From a graphics perspective, rendering complex virtual environments
requires advanced rendering techniques like texture mapping and real-time
multi-sample anti-aliasing. Of all of the general purpose graphics systems
on the market today, only Crimson RealityEngine and Onyx RealityEngine2
systems fully support these capabilities. The anti-aliasing is particularly
important, as the crawling jagged edges of aliased polygons is an
unfortunate distraction when immersed in a virtual environment.
You can use the general purpose graphics libraries listed above to develop
VR applications, but that is starting at a pretty low level. There are
off-the- shelf software packages available to get you going much faster,
being targeted directly at the VR application developer. Some of the most
popular are (in no particular order):
- Division Inc. (Redwood City, CA) - dVS
- Sens8 Inc. (Sausalito, CA) - WorldToolKit
- Naval Postgraduate School (Monterey, CA) - NPSnet (FREE!)
- Gemini Technology Corp (Irvine, CA) - GVS Simation Series
- Paradigm Simulation Inc. (Dallas, TX) - VisionWorks, AudioWorks
- Silicon Graphics Inc. (Mountain View,CA) - IRIS Performer
There are some others, but not off the top of my head...
There are too many to list here, but here is a smattering:
- Fake Space Labs (Menlo Park,CA) - BOOM
- Virtual Technologies Inc. (Stanford, CA) - CyberGlove
- Digital Image Design (New York, NY) - The Cricket (3D input)
- Kaiser Electro Optics (Carlsbad, CA) - Sim Eye Helmet Displays
- Virtual Research (Sunnyvale, CA) - Flight Helmet display
- Virtual Reality Inc. (Pleasantville,NY) - Head Mtd Displays, s/w
- Software Systems (San Jose, CA) - 3D Modeling software
- etc., etc., etc.
Read some of the VR books on the market:
- Virtual Reality - Ken Pimental and Ken Texiera (sp?)
- Virtual Mirage
- Artificial Reality - Myron Kreuger
- etc.
Or check out the newsgroup sci.virtual_worlds
Feel free to contact me for more info.
Regards,
Josh
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10,667 |
Drive down to Cincinnati and take a look. Not pretty, is it?
Things were much better there in 1980. All that growth went into
the hands of Ron and Georgie's pals, and I DIDN'T GET A SINGLE
DIME OF IT, DAMMIT. And, now, I'm gonna be bled to death by tax
leeches to pay for the damage. F***ing great.
Oh, here's another thing. Seems like a lot of people in
Columbus drive over to Marysville and make Japanese cars. Hm.
I wonder how many American-owned companies employ those in
Central Ohio? Other than Ohio State University. :)
cpk
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It's been 80 days. Do you know where your wallet is? | 13 | trimmed_train |
2,521 |
Oh yeah, I just read in another newsgroup that the T560i uses a
high quality Trinitron tube than is in most monitors.(the Sony
1604S for example) and this is where the extra cost comes from. It
is also where the high bandwidth comes from, and the fantastic
image, and the large image size, etc, etc...
It's also where the two annoying lines across the screen (one a third
down, the other two thirds down) come from.
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10,475 |
Moreover, the BATF has admitted having agents in the compound, and as
far as I have been able to ascertain, those agents were still in the
compound when the first shots were fired. For all we know, these two
people may BE the agents, who would certainly be unlikely to stay around
and "cook" with the faithful...
Assuming the two people in question were even in the compound at all.
Maybe I sound paranoid, but I watched Janet Reno last night harping on
how much David Koresh was a big, bad child abuser, and I kept wondering
why she -- much less BATF -- wanted us to infer that she had any
jurisdiction over such accusations in the first place.
I'm POSITIVE that the "sealed warrant" is not for child abuse. What was
it for? Peobably weapons violations. Janet Reno didn't say WORD ONE
last night about weapons violations. Why? Because she knows that such
a case is no longer believable?
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2,373 | From: [email protected] (Perry E. Metzger)
You obviously haven't read the information about the system. The chips
put out serial number infomation into the cypher stream to allow
themselves to be identified. The system does not rely on registering
people as owning particular phone units.
And probably as a back door to allow re-generation of the secret key.
Have we determined yet that S1 and S2 don't ever change? | 7 | trimmed_train |
3,302 | Mediterranean Investment property for Sale
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Villa on a large lot in the wooded (pine) hills "above the noise".
2 bedrooms, living-dining room + glassed-in sun-porch; kitchen &
bathroom. Large lot surrounded by traditional white wall with
wrought iron gates: room for an in-ground pool. 2 minutes from the
sea and supermarket; 10 minutes from town and full amenities. Area
has specially favourable microclimate, mentioned in a WHO climate
report.
Seat (Fiat) runabout Car, 3 years old may be included, in the deal.
Ideal for retirement or as a family holiday resort.
Must sell for family reasons.
Asking $150,000.
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5,505 | I repair a lot of monitors here, and I'd like to know where I can get a
pattern generator (or a circuit for one) that will provide MDA, EGA and VGA
signals. Using a whole PC to do this takes up too much space on my bench, and
is somewhat less than portable. I guess I could sit down and design something,
but I don't have the time right now - any (reasonable) suggestions would be
appreciated.
TNX
TG | 11 | trimmed_train |
9,778 | OHIO HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVE THURSDAY, APRIL 8, 1993
H.B. NO. 287- REPRESENTATIVES SEESE, DAVIS, BATCHELDER, AMSTUTZ, T.
JOHNSON, VAN VYVEN, WACHTMANN, WHITE, DI DONATO, BOGGS, LOGAN
TO AMEND SECTION 1531.01 OF THE REVISED CODE TO ADD MOURNING DOVE
TO THE GAME BIRD LIST AND PERMIT THE CHIEF OF THE DIVISION OF WILDLIFE IN
THE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES TO REGULATE THE HUNTING OF MOURNING
DOVES, AND TO MAKE AN APPROPRIATION.
This would allow the hunting of mourning doves in Ohio and give the
sportsman something they have been pushing for. | 9 | trimmed_train |
6,889 | Yo, did anybody see this run of HARD COPY?
I guy on a 600 Katana got pulled over by the Police (I guess for
speeding or something). But just as the cop was about to step
out of the car, the dude punches it down an interstate in Georgia.
Ang then, the cop gives chase.
Now this was an interesting episode because it was all videotaped!!!
Everything from the dramatic takeoff and 135mph chase to the sidestreet
battle at about 100mph. What happened at the end? The guy (who is
being relentless chased down box the cage with the disco lights)
slows a couple of times to taunt the cop. After blowing a few stop
signs and making car jump to the side, he goes up a dead end street.
The Kat, although not the latest machine, is still a high performance
machine and he slams on the brakes. Of couse, we all know that cages,
especially the ones with the disco lights, can't stop as fast as our
high performance machines. So what happens?... The cage plows into the
Kat.
Luckily for this dude, he was wearing a helmet and was not hurt. But
dude, how crazy can you get!?! Yeah, we've all went out and played
cat and mouse with our friends but, with a cop!!???!!! How crazy can
you get!?!?! It took just one look at a ZX-7 who tried this crap
to convince me not to try any shit like that. (Although the dude
collided with a car head on at 140 mph, the Kawasaki team colors
still looked good!!! Just a few scratches, like no front end....
3 inch long engine and other "minor" scratches...)
If you guys are out there, please, slow it down. I not being
an advocate for the cages (especially the ones that make that
annoying ass noises...), but just think... The next time you
punched it (whether you have an all mighty ZX-11 or a "I can
do it" 250 Ninja), just remember, a kid could step out at any
time.
Peace & ride (kinda) safe.
Warren -- "Have Suzuki, Will travel..."
[email protected] | 12 | trimmed_train |
4,692 | 2 | trimmed_train |
|
515 | Hi, anyone have the latest drivers for the Actix Graphics Accelerator Card?
(32 plus) The one I have (version 1.21) seem to have a lot of problems.
I believe the latest version is 1.3 and would someone please
upload it to some ftp site so that I can download it.
Thanks
--
Daniel Y.H. Wong UofT:(416)978-1659
[email protected] Electrical Engineering | 18 | trimmed_train |
3,293 | Is anyone maintaining a list of favorite shareware and public domain Windows
software?
I have several such lists for MSDOS, but they are really light on Windows
stuff. | 18 | trimmed_train |
6,119 |
I guess that's why scientists probably aren't mentioned either. Or
stock brokers. Or television repairmen.
It's precious to know just how deep the brainwashing from childhood
( that it takes to progress a religion ) cleans away a very substantial
part of the reasoning neurons.
But don't mind me; I don't exist. | 8 | trimmed_train |
7,149 |
Yes. Reasonable parallels. (though I don't think Russia ever claimed to be
Communist)
I must protest your "...in a Communist country". How do you know?
There haven't been any, and are unlikely to ever be any. In some Socialist
dictatorships, you can't, whilst in some socialist democracies
(such as France or Australia)
you can. Of course, some people may disagree about France & Australia being
socialist...
Yet.
In some circumstances. I was at a public meeting last night (in the USA), where
a protester, who was very nice and calm, and just said before the
speaker started to beware of his opinions, was forced out of the meeting by
two armed policemen.
There are a lot of things that one cannot do in the USA. You may not
notice them, but as an Australian visitor, I notice them.
Yes, we are lucky at the moment. I hope that is still true in
a few years time. Because it didn't just happen...it required concious
effort.
Of course don't over react --- but don't under react.
Andrew.
Disclaimer: All my opinions are my own, and do not represent the society
for the conservation of momentum or any other group. I hope I don't lose
my student Visa as a result of these opinions..
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7,050 | The FBI released large amounts of CS tear gas into the compound in
Waco. CS tear gas is a fine power. Is CS inflammable. Grain dust
suspended in air can form an explosive mixture, will CS suspended in air
form an explosive mix? Could large quantities of CS have fueled the
rapid spread of fire in the compound?
Please note I am directing all followups to talk.politics.guns
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7,480 |
Unfortunatly, this seems to be how Christians are taught to think when
it comes to their religion. Some take it to the extreme and say that
their religion is the ONLY one and if you don't accept their teachings
then you won't be "saved". It takes quite a bit of arrogance to claim
to know what God thinks/wants. Especially when it's based upon your
interpretation of a book. The logic in the above statement is faulty
in that it assumes two people with differing beliefs can't both be
correct. It's all about perception. No two people are exactly alike.
No two people perceive everything in the same way. I believe that
there is one truth. Call it God's truth, a universal truth, or call it
what you will. I don't believe God presents this truth. I think it is
just there and it's up to you to look for and see it, through prayer,
meditation, inspir- ation, dreams or whatever. Just because people may
perceive this truth differently, it doesn't mean one is wrong and the
other is right. As an example, take the question, "Is the glass half
empty or half full"? You can have two different answers which are
contradictory and yet both are correct. So, for your belief to be
true, does not require everyone else's belief to be wrong. | 0 | trimmed_train |
3,805 | Library of Congress to Host Dead Sea Scroll Symposium April 21-22
To: National and Assignment desks, Daybook Editor
Contact: John Sullivan, 202-707-9216, or Lucy Suddreth, 202-707-9191
both of the Library of Congress
WASHINGTON, April 19 -- A symposium on the Dead Sea
Scrolls will be held at the Library of Congress on Wednesday,
April 21, and Thursday, April 22. The two-day program, cosponsored
by the library and Baltimore Hebrew University, with additional
support from the Project Judaica Foundation, will be held in the
library's Mumford Room, sixth floor, Madison Building.
Seating is limited, and admission to any session of the symposium
must be requested in writing (see Note A).
The symposium will be held one week before the public opening of a
major exhibition, "Scrolls from the Dead Sea: The Ancient Library of
Qumran and Modern Scholarship," that opens at the Library of Congress
on April 29. On view will be fragmentary scrolls and archaeological
artifacts excavated at Qumran, on loan from the Israel Antiquities
Authority. Approximately 50 items from Library of Congress special
collections will augment these materials. The exhibition, on view in
the Madison Gallery, through Aug. 1, is made possible by a generous
gift from the Project Judaica Foundation of Washington, D.C.
The Dead Sea Scrolls have been the focus of public and scholarly
interest since 1947, when they were discovered in the desert 13 miles
east of Jerusalem. The symposium will explore the origin and meaning
of the scrolls and current scholarship. Scholars from diverse
academic backgrounds and religious affiliations, will offer their
disparate views, ensuring a lively discussion.
The symposium schedule includes opening remarks on April 21, at
2 p.m., by Librarian of Congress James H. Billington, and by
Dr. Norma Furst, president, Baltimore Hebrew University. Co-chairing
the symposium are Joseph Baumgarten, professor of Rabbinic Literature
and Institutions, Baltimore Hebrew University and Michael Grunberger,
head, Hebraic Section, Library of Congress.
Geza Vermes, professor emeritus of Jewish studies, Oxford
University, will give the keynote address on the current state of
scroll research, focusing on where we stand today. On the second
day, the closing address will be given by Shmaryahu Talmon, who will
propose a research agenda, picking up the theme of how the Qumran
studies might proceed.
On Wednesday, April 21, other speakers will include:
-- Eugene Ulrich, professor of Hebrew Scriptures, University of
Notre Dame and chief editor, Biblical Scrolls from Qumran, on "The
Bible at Qumran;"
-- Michael Stone, National Endowment for the Humanities
distinguished visiting professor of religious studies, University of
Richmond, on "The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Pseudepigrapha."
-- From 5 p.m. to 6:30 p.m. a special preview of the exhibition
will be given to symposium participants and guests.
On Thursday, April 22, beginning at 9 a.m., speakers will include:
-- Magen Broshi, curator, shrine of the Book, Israel Museum,
Jerusalem, on "Qumran: The Archaeological Evidence;"
-- P. Kyle McCarter, Albright professor of Biblical and ancient
near Eastern studies, The Johns Hopkins University, on "The Copper
Scroll;"
-- Lawrence H. Schiffman, professor of Hebrew and Judaic studies,
New York University, on "The Dead Sea Scrolls and the History of
Judaism;" and
-- James VanderKam, professor of theology, University of Notre
Dame, on "Messianism in the Scrolls and in Early Christianity."
The Thursday afternoon sessions, at 1:30 p.m., include:
-- Devorah Dimant, associate professor of Bible and Ancient Jewish
Thought, University of Haifa, on "Qumran Manuscripts: Library of a
Jewish Community;"
-- Norman Golb, Rosenberger professor of Jewish history and
civilization, Oriental Institute, University of Chicago, on "The
Current Status of the Jerusalem Origin of the Scrolls;"
-- Shmaryahu Talmon, J.L. Magnas professor emeritus of Biblical
studies, Hebrew University, Jerusalem, on "The Essential 'Commune of
the Renewed Covenant': How Should Qumran Studies Proceed?" will close
the symposium.
There will be ample time for question and answer periods at the
end of each session.
Also on Wednesday, April 21, at 11 a.m.:
The Library of Congress and The Israel Antiquities Authority
will hold a lecture by Esther Boyd-Alkalay, consulting conservator,
Israel Antiquities Authority, on "Preserving the Dead Sea Scrolls"
in the Mumford Room, LM-649, James Madison Memorial Building, The
Library of Congress, 101 Independence Ave., S.E., Washington, D.C.
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NOTE A: For more information about admission to the symposium,
please contact, in writing, Dr. Michael Grunberger, head, Hebraic
Section, African and Middle Eastern Division, Library of Congress,
Washington, D.C. 20540.
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10,011 |
It seems to deter those who are executed from future criminal activity.
Why don't you compare the rates at which blacks and whites commit crimes?
Blacks commit crimes disproportionately, so in a perfectly fair penal
system, blacks would be disproportionately represented.
(Note: black vs. white crime rates is not a racial thing. It's probably
an economic thing: poor people are more likely to commit crimes, and blacks
are more likely to be poor. The way to reduce the proportion of minorities
in prison is to increase the wealth of minorities.) | 13 | trimmed_train |
5,579 | :Thanks for all your assistance. I'll see if he can try a
:different brand of patches, although he's tried two brands
:already. Are there more than two?
The brands I can come up with off the top of my head are Nicotrol,
Nicoderm and Habitrol. There may be a fourth as well.
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5,359 | Some sick part of me really liked that phrase.... | 7 | trimmed_train |
10,860 | This may be a fairly routine request on here, but I'm looking for a fast
polygon routine to be used in a 3D game. I have one that works right now, but
its very slow. Could anyone point me to one, pref in ASM that is fairly well
documented and flexible?
Thanx,
//Lucas.
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5,803 |
Shouldn't have. But he may need to see the shrink about why he
wanted to kill himself. Depressed people can be succesfully treated
usually.
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Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
[email protected] | it is shameful to surrender it too soon." | 19 | trimmed_train |
10,042 | I seem to be having some trouble with this...
I can get the mac to go to sleep, but I can't make seem to
make it wake up with SetWUTime(). I am aware of the error in
the header files and IM VI. I am setting the WU time to be
about two minutes, then putting the mac to sleep, but it doesn't
wakeup at the appointed time....
Does it require a call to SystemTask in order to make sure that
everything is setup?
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1,406 | >Now let me get this straight. After a nice, long rant about
>how people need to take personal responsibility for their
>economic and social lives, all of a sudden 1960's radicals
>(such as me, I guess) are responsible for poor people's
>lifestyles? Tell me how that works--or do you think that poor
>people are just too dumb to think for themselves?
>
>There are many reasons for the disintegration of the family
>and support systems in general among this nation's poor.
>Somehow I don't think Murphy Brown--or Janis Joplin--is at
>the top of any sane person's list.
>
>You want to go after my generation's vaunted cultural
>revolution for a lasting change for the worse, try so-called
>"relevant" or "values" education. Hey, it seemed like a good
>idea at the time. How were we to know you needed a real
>education first--I mean, we took that for granted.
The 1960's generation were the most spoiled and irresponsible.
The Depression had create mothers and fathers that were determined that their
kids would not want for anything -- going overboard and creating a nation of
brats.
Consider the contrast between two famous events in July of 1969.
Apollo 11 and Woodstock.
Which group had large numbers of people that could not feed themselves and
reverted to the cultural level of primitives (defecation in public etc.).
And which group assembled, took care of itself, and dispersed with no damage,
no deaths, no large numbers of drug problems ....
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There are actually people that STILL believe Love Canal was some kind of
environmental disaster. Weird, eh? | 13 | trimmed_train |
6,891 | The Blues scored two power-play goals in 17 seconds in the third period
and the beat the Chicago Blackhawks 4-3 Sunday afternoon at Chicago Stadium.
Brendan Shanahan tied the game 3-3 and Brett Hull scored the game winner 17
seconds later. Jeff Brown and Denny Felsner scored the other Blues goals.
Brian Noonan had the hat trick for the Hawks, who also had some very good
goaltending from Ed Belfour. Blues goalie Curtis Joseph was solid down the
stretch to preserve the Blues lead.
The Hawks came out strong in the first period, outshooting the Blues 6-1 and
taking a 1-0 lead on Noonan's first goal. Right after an interference penalty
on Rick Zombo had expired, Keith Brown intercepted a clearing attempt at the
blue line and passed the puck to Steve Larmer in the right circle. Larmer fired
a long slap shot, and Noonan deflected the puck between Joseph's pads. After
the goal, the Blues picked up the intensity and went on to outshoot the Hawks
10-9 in the first period.
Jeff Brown tied the game 1-1 at 3:12 of the second. Nelson Emerson broke in on
the left side, got by Craig Muni and pushed the puck across the slot. Belfour
came out to play the pass and shoveled it to the right boards, where Brown
collected it and slapped it in before Belfour could get back to the goal.
Two minutes later on a Hawks power play, Belfour stopped Rich Sutter on a
short-handed break-in. Chris Chelios picked up the puck and passed it to Jeremy
Roenick who carried it on right wing and found an open Noonan with a nice pass
across the slot. Noonan fired it past Joseph at 5:30 for the 2-1 lead.
Noonan completed his hat trick 3:11 later to increase the Hawks' lead to 3-1.
Stephane Matteau made a nice pass from the right boards to Noonan who beat
Stephane Quintal by driving to the net. Joseph had no chance as Noonan
deflected the puck in the net.
Denny Felsner reduced the Blues deficit to 3-1 at 12:49 after picking up the
rebound of Basil McRae's slap shot from the slot. Janney set up McRae for
the shot, and the puck sailed wide of the net and bounced off the end boards
to Felsner. Felsner sticked the rebound into the partially open net. The Blues
outshot the Hawks 10-5 in the second period.
With the Blackhawks leading 3-2 at 9:56 of the third, Stephane Matteau picked
up a high sticking penalty. Just 53 seconds into the power play, Steve Smith
was called for slashing, giving the Blues a 5-on-3 advantage for 1:07.
The Blues didn't waste time as Brendan Shanahan scored just 23 seconds into
the two-man advantage to tie the game 3-3. Janney found Hull in the slot,
and Hull fired a rocket at Belfour. Jeff Brown collected the rebound and
passed it to Shanahan in the left circle. Shanahan beat Belfour from a sharp
angle.
Just 17 seconds later, Hull scored the game winner for the Blues. Nelson
Emerson broke in on right wing, carried the puck behind the net along with
two Hawks defensemen. Emerson made a nice pass to an unchecked Hull in the
slot, and Hull beat Belfour to put the Blues up 4-3.
The Hawks had several chances to tie the game in the final minutes, but Joseph
made some brilliant saves to prevent the Hawks from scoring. He stopped Troy
Murray point blank from just right of the crease with 2:30 left in the game.
The Blues killed off a late Hawks power play, with Rich Sutter clearing the
puck with his hand as it was trickling along the goal line. The Blues held
on to win the game. The Hawks oushot the Blues 13-7 in the third period,
totaling 27 shots on goal for each team. The Blues special teams were excellent
in the game. The Blues killed 6 of 7 Hawks power plays, and scored twice on
on four power play chances. The Blues ranked among the best special teams in
the league. They rank 2nd in penalty killing and 3rd on the power play.
The game was carried live on ABC, the first time an NHL game other than an
All-Star game has been shown on network television since May 24, 1980, when
CBS carried Game 6 of the Stanley Cup finals.
The best-of-seven series continues Wednesday in Chicago and Friday and Sunday
in St. Louis.
Box score
---------
Blues 4, Blackhawks 3
BLUES 0 2 2 -- 4
CHICAGO 1 2 0 -- 3
FIRST PERIOD
CHI -- Noonan 1 (Larmer, K.Brown), 8:17.
Penalties -- Shanahan, StL (holding), 2:28; Zombo, StL (interference), 6:00;
Murphy, Chi (high-sticking), 11:30; Grimson, Chi (boarding), 14:39; Zombo, StL
(holding), 18:46.
SECOND PERIOD
STL -- Brown 1 (Shanahan, Emerson), 3:12.
CHI -- (PPG) Noonan 2 (Roenick, Chelios), 5:40.
CHI -- Noonan 3 (Matteau, Sutter), 8:51.
STL -- Felsner 1 (McRae, Janney), 12:49.
Penalties -- Baron, StL (interference), 4:33; Wilson, StL (tripping), 9:31.
THIRD PERIOD
STL -- (PPG) Shanahan 1 (J.Brown, Hull), 11:12.
STL -- (PPG) Hull 1 (Emerson, J.Brown), 11:29.
Penalties -- Shanahan, StL (roughing), 1:54; Matteau, Chi (high-sticking),
9:56; Smith, Chi (slashing), 10:49; Baron, StL (roughing), 14:23.
SHOTS ON GOAL
BLUES 10 10 7 -- 27
CHICAGO 9 5 13 -- 27
Power-play Opportunities -- St. Louis 2 of 4; Chicago 1 of 7.
Goaltenders -- St. Louis, Joseph, 1-0-0 (27 shots-24 saves).
Chicago, Belfour, 0-1-0 (27-23).
Referee -- Kerry Fraser. Linesmen -- Kevin Collins, Brian Murphy. A -- 16,199. | 17 | trimmed_train |
2,487 | [Newsgroups: m.h.a added, followups set to most appropriate groups.]
In <[email protected]> [email protected] (Brian M.
(It's "Kirlian". "Krillean" pictures are portraits of tiny shrimp. :)
[...]
I think it's safe to say that anything that's not at 0 degrees Kelvin
will have its own "energy signature" -- the interesting questions are
what kind of energy, and what it signifies.
I'd check places like Edmund Scientific (are they still in business?) --
or I wonder if you can find ex-Soviet Union equipment for sale somewhere
in the relcom.* hierarchy.
Some expansion on Kirlian photography:
From the credulous side: [Stanway, Andrew, _Alternative Medicine: A Guide
To Natural Therapies_, ISBN 0-14-008561-0, New York: Viking Penguin, 1986,
p211, p188. A not-overly critical but still useful overview of 32
alternative health therapies.]
...the Russian engineer Semyon Kirlian and his wife Valentina during the
1950s. Using alternating currents of high frequency to 'illuminate'
their subjects, they photographed them. They found that if an object
was a good conductor (such as a metal) the picture showed only its
surface, while the pictures of poor conductors showed the inner
structure of the object even if it were optically opaque. They found
too that these high frequency pictures could distinguish between dead
and living objects. Dead ones had a constant outline whilst living ones
were subject to changes. The object's life activity was also visible in
highly variable colour patterns.
High frequency photography has now been practised for twenty years in
the Soviet Union but only a few people in the West have taken it up
seriously. Professor Douglas Dean in New York and Professor Philips at
Washington University in St Louis have produced Kirlian photographs and
others have been produced in Brazil, Austria and Germany.
Using Kirlian photography it is possible to show an aura around people's
fingers, notably around those of healers who are concentrating on
healing someone. Normally, blue and white rays emanate from the fingers
but, when a subject becomes angry or excited, the aura turns red and
spotty. The Soviets are now using Kirlian photography to diagnose
diseases which cannot be diagnosed by any other method. They argue that
in most illnesses there is a preclinical stage during which the person
isn't actually ill but is about to be. They claim to be able to
foretell a disease by photographing its preclinical phase.
But the most exciting phenomenon illustrated by Kirlian photography is
the phantom effect. During high frequency photography of a leaf from
which a part had been cut, the photograph gave a complete picture of the
leaf with the removed part showing up faintly. This is extremely
important because it backs up the experiences of psychics who can 'see'
the legs of amputees as if they were still there. The important thing
about the Kirlian phantoms though is that the electromagnetic pattern
can't possibly represent a secondary phenomenon -- or the field would
vanish when the piece of leaf or leg vanished. The energy grid
contained in a living object must therefore be far more significant than
the actual object itself.
[...]
Kirlian photography has shown how water mentally 'charged' by a healer
has a much richer energy field around it than ordinary water...
From the incredulous side: [MacRobert, Alan, "Reality shopping; a
consumer's guide to new age hokum.", _Whole Earth Review_, Autumn 1986,
vNON4 p4(11). An excellent article providing common-sense guidelines for
evaluating paranormal claims, and some of the author's favorite examples
of hokum.]
The crank usually works in isolation from everyone else in his field of
study, making grand discoveries in his basement. Many paranormal
movements can be traced back to such people -- Kirlian photography, for
instance. If you pump high-voltage electricity into anything it will
emit glowing sparks, common knowledge to electrical workers and
hobbyists for a century. It took a lone basement crank to declare that
the sparks represent some sort of spiritual aura. In fact, Kirlian
photography was subjected to rigorous testing by physicists John O.
Pehek, Harry J. Kyler, and David L. Faust, who reported their findings
in the October 15, 1976, issue of Science. Their conclusion: The
variations observed in Kirlian photographs are due solely to moisture on
the surface of the body and not to mysterious "auras" or even
necessarily to changes in mood or mental state. Nevertheless,
television shows, magazines, and books (many by famous
parapsychologists) continue to promote Kirlian photography as proof of
the unknown.
| 19 | trimmed_train |
742 | Most of the key issues in the 284 line post to which I am following up are
dealt with in the following post I made on talk.abortion yesterday,
modified to correct the next to last paragraph.
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Dean did not. He called them "the Great Commission" but this is NOT
descriptive of Jesus's words in Matt. 10:15.
Matt. 10:14, Jerusalem Bible translation:
"And if anyone does not welcome you or listen to what you have
to say, as you walk out of the house or town shake the dust
from your feet."
Matt. 10:15:
"I tell you solemnly, on the day of Judgment it will not
go as hard with the land of Sodom and Gomorrah as with
that town."
"> The above is a good description of Kaflowitz, who keeps harping on
> shaking the dust off the feet but ignoring what Christ said next."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^
The highlighted words refer to Matt 10:14 and 10:15 respectively.
And Dean countered:
"Actually, this comment of your's is a perfect example of what an
intellectually dishonest little sparrowfart you are, since I
specifically acknowledged the Great Commission and the entreaty
to spread the word. In fact, it is the combination of the two
statements I was addressing, and not just the one, and for you to
characterize that as "ignoring" the instruction to spread the
word is a good example of what a dishonest little fellow you are."
Of course, Matt 10:15 [quoted above] makes no mention of "instruction
to spread the word."
All these quotes btw are from:
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
And I claim it correctly, because my question went:
"Do you, too, measure
the goodness of a post by its entertainment value, and care not
a whit for such mundane things as truth and falsehood?"
and the closest Dean came to an answer was:
"Peter, Peter, Peter. You're just so stupid, pretentious, dull,
and generally unworthy of the value you place on yourself that
the sport is all there is."
Of course, this does NOT answer my question, which has to do with posts
in GENERAL and not my posts in particular. Surely even Dean knows this,
yet he brazenly asserts otherwise, reinforcing his claim with an insult:
"So I now restore the answer to your question
that you deleted. If you're still unable to figure it out, ask
a nice kid at the local junior high to help you. It really
doesn't take much sophistication to understand."
On top of which, I doubt that the "answer" is at all representative
of Dean's true frame of mind. The insults you have seen quoted thus
far are but a small sample of the stream that oozes out of Dean's
mind throughout the 284-line post from which these quotes were taken.
One wonders whether Dean's mind is so warped as to find sport in all
this.
He even dredges up a falsified account of
events that transpired earlier on another thread:
"You made an ass of yourself by claiming that it
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
was in the tradition of Lent to make public announcements of
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
the "sins" of other individuals."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
False. I said it was the tradition to recall and atone for one's sins.
That I made public announcements of the "sins" of others
--"sins", BTW, that were a matter of public record, documented in
the posts of others-- is a different matter.
Many of the individuals involved are so nearly amoral that
they do not see as sins what morally upright people see as sins, so
I pointed some of them out. And I expressly set up a whole thread,
YOUR TURN, to let people point out MY sins to me.
Dean again:
"You made an ass of yourself
by saying that my statement of the tradition of tzedukkah was
somehow an attempt to "paint Jews as plaster saints," thereby
revealing your inability to understand the discussion as well
as showing your dislike for people saying positive things
about Jews, and now you show your intellectual dishonesty by
repeatedly ignoring the simple argument being made, and then
claiming I am ignoring the very argument I acknowledge."
Actually, what happened was that Dean made it seem like ANY Jew
who gave alms or did other acts of charity in public was a hypocrite
according to Jewish customs. In doing so, he was caricaturing
Jewish customs as being almost impossibly demanding, as well as
implicitly slandering all Jews who make public their acts of charity.
I went very easily on Dean for this, giving him the benefit of
the doubt in a post following my initial crack about "plaster saints",
suggesting that he had been merely careless in his wording.
In an astonishing act of ingratitude, Dean now serves up an incredibly
distorted picture of what took place between us, and using it as
the basis of one insult after another. | 15 | trimmed_train |
9,998 |
In the UIBM PC world, how much of a "standard" has VESA become for
SVGA graphics? I know there are lots of graphics-board companies out
there, as well as several graphics chips manufacturers- are they adhering to
the VESA standard, and what effect is/will the VESA Local Bus have on all
of this?
Anyone?
| 1 | trimmed_train |
10,782 | I am looking for a company that can make custom keys. For instance we need
a key that says HELP, MAIN MENU, etc which we are going to use instead of
F1,F2, F3 etc... Can anyone point me to a company that does this. Also
do you have to have a special keyboard, or can I just pop off the old keys
and pop in the new ones... | 3 | trimmed_train |
3,283 |
Since we are in the subject, I have one more question. I have a Trident
8900C Video Card. I want to know what is the latest video driver for it.
So far, all I can find is that an old driver dated Aug. 92 in garbo.uwasa.fi
Anyone have any info ? Please e-mail me at [email protected] | 18 | trimmed_train |
3,600 | Turkish president Turgur Ozal has passed away today after a heart attack in Ankara at 11:00 am GMT .
Mr. Ozal was 66 years old. | 13 | trimmed_train |
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