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er, excuse me but since the escrow agencies aren't yet chosen, how can you say they have a "history of untrustworthy behavoir[sic]"? I'm sure each of us can think of agencies without such a history. Price Waterhouse has kept the secret of the Academy Awards for many years, even in the face of an aggressive press. The Federal Reserve Open Market Committee has successfully kept decisions from leaking for the statutory period until publication. Even the Department of Agriculture has successfully kept crop forecasts from leaking prematurely. Frankly, I'd trust the above (not the D of A, of course since they might be subject to political pressure) far sooner than the ACLU, EFF, or CPSR which, though not exactly government apologists, have no particular track record for internal security that I know of. David
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Found it! Thanks. I got several offers for help. I appreciate it and will be contacting those people via e-mail. Thanks again...
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Hi everyone, I'm getting a car in the near future. I've narrow it down to 300ZX and SC300. Which might be a better choice? Thanks for your opnion, Danny --
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It can be done, contact Chaparell cycle supply, they ought to have the sprocket you need/want for cheap, well much cheaper than your average dealership. Hey they even had sprockets for my VF1000R which is hard to find accesssories for. -Craig. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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I couldn't have said it better, Mark!
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I was wondering if it's possible to change the window icons OLWM uses for things like xterm. Most of the defaults are pretty lame. Any answer (or where I can find one) would be most appreciated. Thanks
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Christian Slater, only gota cameo on ST6, and besides. Maybe she can't act:-)
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I change login passwords every couple of months. I sure would suck if I had to get a new sparc station everytime I wanted to do this. It seems that this is what they expect you to do if you want to routinely change your password on your phone. I'm sure the government contractor doesn't mind, but a system where you can cheaply change keys (DES) has inherent security advantages, regardless of the algorithms involved.
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Read it again yourself, then re-apply the admonition you gave to the previous poster to yourself, as well. The first clause is not a condition, it is a reason for explicitly supporting the right WHICH EXISTS, MILITIA OR NOT, that the people have a right to keep and bear arms. This is NOT a right granted by the Constitution, it is a right presumed to exist by default. The Constitution mentioning a right is to prevent the government from removing that right by stating very clearly the government shall NOT infringe (mess with, block, limit) that right. Remember the Constitution is a bunch of negative things - things the government CANNOT do. All rights, etc not epxressly given to the government go to the states and the PEOPLE (the same people the other 9 Amendments in the Bill of Rights talk about). Since I am sure you will summarily reject my interpretation, I am appending a linguistic analysis by one far more expert than myself (and you, I suspect). I am sure you will find his qualifications adequate. If that isn't enough I can send you the Senate Subcommitee to the Judiciary on the Constitution report on the same thing... There are some things in there that Big Brother types, like Biden, etc must have really had to swallow hard to admit. I think you will find that people that seriously study the Constitution and state what it means will say the same thing. Those who come up with 'new improved meanings' are those who are trying to subvert the Constitution for a given agenda. Like Clinton and his Clinton Cripple, Gun Control, People Control, and Control Control, and the whole nasty mess. Please tell us how this person is in error, won't you? (And please back it up with some proof, since I am backing my assertion up with independent proof, and have a BUNCH MORE I can provide...). NOTE: Followups set to talk.politics.guns --------- Begin included article ------- THE UNABRIDGED SECOND AMENDMENT by J. Neil Schulman If you wanted to know all about the Big Bang, you'd ring up Carl Sagan, right ? And if you wanted to know about desert warfare, the man to call would be Norman Schwarzkopf, no question about it. But who would you call if you wanted the top expert on American usage, to tell you the meaning of the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution ? That was the question I asked A.C. Brocki, editorial coordinator of the Los Angeles Unified School District and formerly senior editor at Houghton Mifflin Publishers -- who himself had been recommended to me as the foremost expert on English usage in the Los Angeles school system. Mr. Brocki told me to get in touch with Roy Copperud, a retired professor journalism at the University of Southern California and the author of "American Usage and Style: The Consensus." A little research lent support to Brocki's opinion of Professor Copperud's expertise. Roy Copperud was a newspaper writer on major dailies for over three decades before embarking on a a distinguished 17-year career teaching journalism at USC. Since 1952, Copperud has been writing a column dealing with the professional aspects of journalism for "Editor and Publisher", a weekly magazine focusing on the journalism field. He's on the usage panel of the American Heritage Dictionary, and Merriam Webster's Usage Dictionary frequently cites him as an expert. Copperud's fifth book on usage, "American Usage and Style: The Consensus," has been in continuous print from Van Nostrand Reinhold since 1981, and is the winner of the Association of American Publisher's Humanities Award. That sounds like an expert to me. After a brief telephone call to Professor Copperud in which I introduced myself but did not give him any indication of why I was interested, I sent the following letter: "I am writing you to ask you for your professional opinion as an expert in English usage, to analyze the text of the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution, and extract the intent from the text. "The text of the Second Amendment is, 'A well-regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.' "The debate over this amendment has been whether the first part of the sentence, 'A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State', is a restrictive clause or a subordinate clause, with respect to the independent clause containing the subject of the sentence, 'the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.' "I would request that your analysis of this sentence not take into consideration issues of political impact or public policy, but be restricted entirely to a linguistic analysis of its meaning and intent. Further, since your professional analysis will likely become part of litigation regarding the consequences of the Second Amendment, I ask that whatever analysis you make be a professional opinion that you would be willing to stand behind with your reputation, and even be willing to testify under oath to support, if necessary." My letter framed several questions about the test of the Second Amendment, then concluded: "I realize that I am asking you to take on a major responsibility and task with this letter. I am doing so because, as a citizen, I believe it is vitally important to extract the actual meaning of the Second Amendment. While I ask that your analysis not be affected by the political importance of its results, I ask that you do this because of that importance." After several more letters and phone calls, in which we discussed terms for his doing such an analysis, but in which we never discussed either of our opinions regarding the Second Amendment, gun control, or any other political subject, Professor Copperud sent me the follow analysis (into which I have inserted my questions for the sake of clarity): [Copperud:] "The words 'A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,' contrary to the interpretation cited in your letter of July 26, 1991, constitutes a present participle, rather than a clause. It is used as an adjective, modifying 'militia,' which is followed by the main clause of the sentence (subject 'the right', verb 'shall'). The to keep and bear arms is asserted as an essential for maintaining a militia. "In reply to your numbered questions: [Schulman:] "(1) Can the sentence be interpreted to grant the right to keep and bear arms solely to 'a well-regulated militia'?" [Copperud:] "(1) The sentence does not restrict the right to keep and bear arms, nor does it state or imply possession of the right elsewhere or by others than the people; it simply makes a positive statement with respect to a right of the people." [Schulman:] "(2) Is 'the right of the people to keep and bear arms' granted by the words of the Second Amendment, or does the Second Amendment assume a preexisting right of the people to keep and bear arms, and merely state that such right 'shall not be infringed'?" [Copperud:] "(2) The right is not granted by the amendment; its existence is assumed. The thrust of the sentence is that the right shall be preserved inviolate for the sake of ensuring a militia." [Schulman:] "(3) Is the right of the people to keep and bear arms conditioned upon whether or not a well regulated militia, is, in fact necessary to the security of a free State, and if that condition is not existing, is the statement 'the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed' null and void?" [Copperud:] "(3) No such condition is expressed or implied. The right to keep and bear arms is not said by the amendment to depend on the existence of a militia. No condition is stated or implied as to the relation of the right to keep and bear arms and to the necessity of a well-regulated militia as a requisite to the security of a free state. The right to keep and bear arms is deemed unconditional by the entire sentence." [Schulman:] "(4) Does the clause 'A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,' grant a right to the government to place conditions on the 'right of the people to keep and bear arms,' or is such right deemed unconditional by the meaning of the entire sentence?" [Copperud:] "(4) The right is assumed to exist and to be unconditional, as previously stated. It is invoked here specifically for the sake of the militia." [Schulman:] "(5) Which of the following does the phrase 'well-regulated militia' mean: 'well-equipped', 'well-organized,' 'well-drilled,' 'well-educated,' or 'subject to regulations of a superior authority'?" [Copperud:] "(5) The phrase means 'subject to regulations of a superior authority;' this accords with the desire of the writers for civilian control over the military." [Schulman:] "(6) (If at all possible, I would ask you to take account the changed meanings of words, or usage, since that sentence was written 200 years ago, but not take into account historical interpretations of the intents of the authors, unless those issues can be clearly separated." [Copperud:] "To the best of my knowledge, there has been no change in the meaning of words or in usage that would affect the meaning of the amendment. If it were written today, it might be put: "Since a well-regulated militia is necessary tot he security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be abridged.' [Schulman:] "As a 'scientific control' on this analysis, I would also appreciate it if you could compare your analysis of the text of the Second Amendment to the following sentence, "A well-schooled electorate, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read Books, shall not be infringed.' "My questions for the usage analysis of this sentence would be, "(1) Is the grammatical structure and usage of this sentence and the way the words modify each other, identical to the Second Amendment's sentence?; and "(2) Could this sentence be interpreted to restrict 'the right of the people to keep and read Books' _only_ to 'a well-educated electorate' -- for example, registered voters with a high-school diploma?" [Copperud:] "(1) Your 'scientific control' sentence precisely parallels the amendment in grammatical structure. "(2) There is nothing in your sentence that either indicates or implies the possibility of a restricted interpretation." Professor Copperud had only one additional comment, which he placed in his cover letter: "With well-known human curiosity, I made some speculative efforts to decide how the material might be used, but was unable to reach any conclusion." So now we have been told by one of the top experts on American usage what many knew all along: the Constitution of the United States unconditionally protects the people's right to keep and bear arms, forbidding all governments formed under the Constitution from abridging that right. As I write this, the attempted coup against constitutional government in the Soviet Union has failed, apparently because the will of the people in that part of the world to be free from capricious tyranny is stronger than the old guard's desire to maintain a monopoly on dictatorial power. And here in the United States, elected lawmakers, judges, and appointed officials who are pledged to defend the Constitution of the United States ignore, marginalize, or prevaricate about the Second Amendment routinely. American citizens are put in American prisons for carrying arms, owning arms of forbidden sorts, or failing to satisfy bureaucratic requirements regarding the owning and carrying of firearms -- all of which is an abridgement of the unconditional right of the people to keep and bear arms, guaranteed by the Constitution. And even the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), staunch defender of the rest of the Bill of Rights, stands by and does nothing. it seems it is up to those who believe in the right to keep and bear arms to preserve that right. no one else will. No one else can. Will we beg our elected representatives not to take away our rights, and continue regarding them as representing us if they do? Will we continue obeying judges who decide that the Second Amendment doesn't mean what it says it means but means whatever they say it means in their Orwellian doublespeak ? Or will be simply keep and bear the arms of our choice, as the Constitution of the United States promises us we can, and pledge that we will defend that promise with our lives, our fortuned, and our sacred honor ? (C) 1991 by The New Gun Week and Second Amendment Foundation. Informational reproduction of the entire article is hereby authorized provided the author, The New Gun Week and Second Amendment Foundation are credited. All other rights reserved. About the Author J. Neil Schulman is the award-winning author of novels endorsed by Anthony Burgess and Nobel-economist Milton Friedman, and writer of the CBS "Twilight Zone" episode in which a time-traveling historian prevents the JFK assassination. He's also the founder and president of SoftServ Publishing, the first publishing company to distribute "paperless books" via personal computers and modems. Most recently, Schulman has founded the Committee to Enforce the Second Amendment (CESA), through which he intends to see the individual's right to keep and bear arms recognized as a constitutional protection equal to those afforded in the First, Fourth, Fifth, Ninth and Fourteenth amendments. ------------- End included article -------- Can you still honestly say the Second is a 'State-Run militia only right'?
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I am currently writing a paper on computer protocols security. I would appreciate your help. I currently have no insight into these topics except that they relate to security in multilevel security network. Please semd me any references, books, FAQs or contact persons names and Internet addresses. The topics I am interested in: 1. The "firewall gateway model" as implemented in Internet gateways. 2. Kerberos Authentication Service Please send me a private e-mail at [email protected] and/or post it on the board. Thanks a lot,
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I posted my public-domain MSDOS program "sunlight.zip" to "sci.astro" yesterday. It easily locates the sun, moon, and planets, and can also be used to locate other objects if you input their Right Ascesion and Declination. Use "uudecode" to extract. -- Robert Sheaffer - Scepticus Maximus - [email protected] Past Chairman, The Bay Area Skeptics - for whom I speak only when authorized! "Marxism and feminism are one and that one is Marxism"
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You need to add two 256K VRAM SIMMs; 512K VRAM SIMMs will not work in any of the Quadra or Centris machines. There is already 512K of VRAM soldered to the logic board. You add the two 256K SIMMs to this to give you a total of 1 MB.
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/(me) /(hudson) /Why does that make something immoral? Because you are not being consistent. Moral systems must be consistent. A person who thinks they can inflict pain on others, but doesn't want it inflicted upon themselves, has a double standard. And double standards are a violation of *any* moral system. (me) /(hudson) /Of course we don't like pain. I don't like brussel sprouts. Are brussel /sprouts immoral? Pain isn't immoral, stupid. Pain itself is just a physiological reaction. What >>is<< immoral is subjecting unwilling individuals to pain. Or brussel sprouts, for that matter. (hudson) (me) /(hudson) /Why would it be wrong to make humans undergo the effects of the reactions /if humans are composed only of matter? What humans are composed of isn't the qualifying criteria of whether or not something would be wrong. /(hudson) /Is it wrong to make matter undergo chemical reactions? Yes, if it is sentient matter. /(me) />Nature is not a sentient force; there is no choice involved. Therefore, />no question of morality. /(hudson) /I actually heard a geologist entertain the notion that matter had a will. /There is some sentient force out there. Fine. I have also heard that the government is encoding the DNA for a new race of superhumans in ordinary drinking water. What's your point? /(hudson) /If humans are made only of matter, then choices are also chemical reactions, /so why is choice an important issue. And if that is the case, then god is only an idea contained in the minds of people (formed of matter) and on printed pages (also formed of matter) and does not really exist.
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Try this: flip your mouse over, and open up the cover that holds the mouse ball in place. Remove the ball, and inside you should see (probably) 3 rollers. If any of the rollers have a tiny layer of caked-on dirt, dust, or otherwise unidentifiable scum on them, carefully scrape it off with a small knife (Xacto works great). *Be Careful* You do not want to gauge the rollers, just clean off the dirt. Put the ball back in, put the cover on, and there you are. I clean a couple of dozen of these every month here. Another symptom is that when you move the mouse, it seems to "click" along. If this doesn't solve your problem, at least you have a clean mouse. I highly recommend using a proper _soft_ mouse pad, and if you are a clean freak, place it in your drawer every night or when you don't use it to keep the dust off. Personally I prefer track balls. Oh, which brings me to another point: if your mouse or trackball tracks optically, and the sunlight is streaming through the window onto your mouse/trackball, you may notice that it will stop working. If this happens to you, close the curtains or blinds, or simply shade your pointing device, and see if that helps.
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I would like to sell my Logitech Hand-held 256 Gray Scale Scanner. I originally bought it as a toy and have no practical use for it. Hardly ever used it. Package includes: -board -Scan-Mate software -Ansel Image Editing software -All original manuals, box, etc. Originally bought for $350 in Jan '92. Selling for $150.
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AMD recent won the appeal against Intel to use their Microcode, so they should be putting out real 486 chips in the near future.
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What kind of polygons? Shaded? Texturemapped? Hm? More comes into play with fast routines than just "polygons". It would be nice to know exaclty what system (VGA is a start, but what processor?) and a few of the specifics of the implementation. You need to give more info if you want to get any answers! :P - Ian Romanick Dancing Fool of Epsilon
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: Logic alert - argument from incredulity. Just because it is hard for you : to believe this doesn't mean that it isn't true. Liars can be very pursuasive : just look at Koresh that you yourself cite. This is whole basis of a great many here rejecting the Christian account of things. In the words of St. Madalyn Murrey-O'Hair, "Face it folks, it's just silly ...". Why is it okay to disbelieve because of your incredulity if you admit that it's a fallacy?
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Are there any PDS expansion cards out there that specifically take advantage of the LCIII's 32 bit data path and 25MHz clock speed? If they exist, are they significantly faster than the LC/LCII versions?
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They three more division. Jason, I am going to a yankee game wed night at cleveland stadium. I am so happy. But Cleveland is a very bad team who lost severalrs. They were an up and coming team, now they are just a sad excuse for a better average.
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Hi Janet, Sounds exactly like mine. Same circumstance, same onset symptoms, same cafergot uselessness, same duration. In fact, of all the people I know who have migraines, none have been so similar. There is such a wide variation between people with respect to what causes their headaches, that I generally don't bother sharing what I've learned about mine, but since ours seem to be alike, here are my observations. I don't think it's heat, per se (I've had more in winter than summer). Dehydration could conceivably figure, though. Try tanking up before playing rather than after. Being in shape doesn't seem to help me much, either. I've identified four factors that do make a difference (listed in descending order of importance): 1) Heavy exercise 2) Sleep deprivation 3) Fasting (e.g., skipped breakfast) 4) Physical trauma (e.g., head bonk) Heavy exercise has preceded all of my post-adolescent migraines, but I don't get migraines after every heavy exercise session. One or more of the other factors *must* be present (usually #2). Since I discovered this, I've been nearly migraine-free -- relapsing only once every two or three years when I get cocky ("It's been so long, maybe I just don't get them anymore") and stop being careful. Hope this is helpful.
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{Michael Fulbright} said "Analog switches/Balanced" to <All> on 04-15-93 01:08 MF> I am trying to build a synchronous demodulator and I've hit a snag. MF> In my application I want to be able to change the gain of an MF> op amp amplifier from 1 to -1, controlable via a digital input. MF> The most obvious way I've come up with is to use analog switches MF> to adjust the gain of the op amp. The only analog switch I have MF> experience with it the 4066. Unfortunately I want to switch an MF> AC signal which goes from about -5V to 5V, and the 4066 is only MF> for positive signals. How about using a 4053 it has a seperate ground for the analog outputs. It would get you 3 bits. MF> Another part which caught my eye was the Analog Devices AD630. This MF> is a balanced demodulator which appears to fill exactly the need I MF> have. The data sheet was somewhat skimpy on application notes. Could MF> someone comment on using this chip for the following application? Or how about a multiplying D/A convertor? This is essentiallty what you are makeing. Stephen [email protected] Mangled on Fri 04-16-1993 at 13:36:11 ... Catch the Blue Wave!
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Gee, I guess they should also have such a repository for house keys, car keys, safety deposit keys, ... :-( rdl
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It is just as Christ said about his return: "Some will say, 'He is in the desert.' or some will say, 'He is in the wilderness.' But do not believe them. For as lightning flashes east to west so shall the coming of the Son of Man be." { My paraphrase - I think the verse is somewhere in John } Jon ---------------- sig file broken.... please try later...
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This is also commonly seen in new teachers. The first few years, they're sick a lot, but gradually seem to build up immunities to almost everything common. Come to think of it, I was about my healthiest when I was working in a pathogens lab, exposed to who-knows-what all the time. Pre-OSHA, of course.
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I'm considering buying one of these to offload the internal video in my IIci and to get 24 bit color capability on my 13" monitor. What's the deal on them? 1) Do they come with varying amounts of RAM? If so, what is the max and min? How much do I need for 640 x 480 x 24 bits? 2) What bit depths are supported? One, 2, 4, 8, 16, and 24? 3) Are all these cards accelerated or just some? Is it true that modern accelerated video cards are (at least in general) faster? What bit depths are accelerated, all or just 24 bit? I've heard that some applications actually run *slower* with this card if they write directly to the screen (or something like that). Is this a frequent problem? How much slower is it? 4) Didn't I read (when System 7 first came out) that the card was incompatible? If so, how was this corrected (Finder patch, some INIT, or other)? Has it been kept compatible with 7.1? Are there many other apps that it is incompatible with (games or important (i.e., non- Microsloth) apps, for example)? 5) If you have a strong opinion on it's value for someone in my position, let me know what you think a reasonable price is to pay for it. Thanks a lot for you input. Rick
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I don't know anything about this particular case, but *other* governments have been known to follow events on the Usenet. For example after Tienanmien Square in Beijing the Chinese government began monitoring cyberspace. As the former Director of PeaceNet, I am aware of many incidents of local, state, national and international authorities monitoring Usenet and other conferences such as those on the Institute for Global Communications. But what's the big deal? You shouldn't advocate illegal acts in this medium in any case. If you are concerned about being monitored, you should use encyrption software (available in IGC's "micro" conference). I know for a fact that human rights activists in the Balkan-Mideast area use encryption software to send out their reports to international organizations. Such message *can* be decoded however by large computers consuming much CPU time, which probably the Turkish government doesn't have access to.
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Always existing and being the source of the existence of all other beings is not problematic. But, as you put, Being the source of "all" existence, including one's own, would mean that God came from nothing, a concept alien to Christianity and Theism. It is better to understand the classical concepts of Necessary and Contingent existence. God exists necessarily, always. God created contingent beings. This is a coherent solution to existence, so long as the concept of God is coherent. Not a very good answer. If reason cannot by any means understand something then it is likely that "it" is a null concept, something not in reality.
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I am looking for a rat cell line of adrenal gland / cortical cell -type. I have been looking at ATCC without success and would very much appreciate any help. Thank you for reading this. Christophe Roos ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Institute of Biotechnology Fax: +358 0 4346028 POBox 45, Valimotie 7 E-mail: [email protected] University of Helsinki X-400: /G=Christophe/S=Roos SF-00014 Finland /O=Helsinki/A=fumail/C=Fi
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I didn't say it NEVER mentioned Satan, I said it RARELY, if at all. Please excuse me for my lack of perfect memory or omnipotence.
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I have the Star Micronics SG 24, 24 pin printer for sale. I have used with the AMIGA and IBM computers and it works great. I will throw in a cable and vinyl cover for $150 plus shipping. First email gets it... thanx, -Dennis L. Neal [email protected]
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: Pardon me? Here is to an amherst-clown: : : "Your three chiefs, Dro, Hamazasp and Kulkhandanian are the ringleaders : of the bands which have destroyed Tartar villages and have staged : massacres in Zangezour, Surmali, Etchmiadzin, and Zangibasar. This is : intolerable. Were you expecting a different response? Here is another one: Source: K. S. Papazian, "Patriotism Perverted," Baikar Press, Boston, 1934, (73 pages with Appendix). p. 25 (third paragraph) "Some real fighters sprang up from among the people, who struck terror into the hearts of the Turks." "Within a few months after the war began, these Armenian guerrilla forces, operating in close coordination with the Russians, were savagely attacking Turkish cities, towns and villages in the east, massacring their inhabitants without mercy, while at the same time working to sabotage the Ottoman army's war effort by destroying roads and bridges, raiding caravans, and doing whatever else they could to ease Russian occupation. The atrocities committed by the Armenian volunteer forces accompanying the Russian army were so severe that the Russian commanders themselves were compelled to withdraw them from the fighting fronts and sent them to rear guard duties. The memoirs of many Russian officers who served in the east at this time are filled with accounts of the revolting atrocities committed by these Armenian guerrillas, which were savage even by relatively primitive standards of war then observed in such areas.[1]" [1] "Journal de Guerre du Deuxieme d'Artillerie de Forteresse Russe d'Erzeroum," 1919, p. 28. : >honored me by reproducing my text. Unfortunately, he has still not produced : >the "documents" on "Jews in LATVIA." Instead, he asks for my views on the : >"Turkish Genocide." Well, that debate seems to be going on in a few hundred : >other threads. I'll let other people bring the usual charges, try to debunk : >Mutlu/Argic/Cosar (a net-wide Terrorism Triangle?) and their spurious evidence. : : When that does ever happen, look out the window to see if there is a : non-fascist x-Soviet Armenian Government in the East. Now, where is : your non-existent list of scholars? What a moronian. During the First : World War and the ensuing years - 1914-1920, the Armenian Dictatorship : through a premeditated and systematic genocide, tried to complete its : centuries-old policy of annihilation against the Turks and Kurds by : savagely murdering 2.5 million Muslims and deporting the rest from : their 1,000 year homeland. How could you? Because there is none. Like conversing with a brick wall. And you are not responding to what I am writing. By the way, that "bullshit" is justly regarded as the first instance of Genocide in the 20th Century acted upon an entire people. For nearly one thousand years, the Turkish and Kurdish people lived on their homeland - the last one hundred under the oppressive Soviet and Armenian occupation. The persecutions culminated in 1914: The Armenian Government planned and carried out a Genocide against its Muslim subjects. 2.5 million Turks and Kurds were murdered and the remainder driven out of their homeland. After one thousand years, Turkish and Kurdish lands were empty of Turks and Kurds. The survivors found a safe heaven in Turkiye. Today, x-Soviet Armenian government rejects the right of Turks and Kurds to return to their Muslim lands occupied by x-Soviet Armenia. Today, x-Soviet Armenia covers up the genocide perpetrated by its predecessors and is therefore an accessory to this crime against humanity. x-Soviet Armenia must pay for its crime of genocide against the Muslims by admitting to the crime and making reparations to the Turks and Kurds. You may assert whatever you wish. Ditto. : The attempt at genocide is justly regarded as the first instance : of Genocide in the 20th Century acted upon an entire people. : This event is incontrovertibly proven by historians, government : and international political leaders, such as U.S. Ambassador Mark : Bristol, ... And still anxiously awaiting... : .......so the list goes on and on and on..... : : >I'm still trying to find out about those Jews in LATVIA. Can you post those : >documents PLEEEEEEEASE, Mr. Argic? Puh-leeze could you? C'mon, it's my : >birthday in three weeks... post them for me as a birthday present. : : Remember, the issue at hand is the cold-blooded genocide of 2.5 million : Muslim people by the Armenians between 1914-1920, and the Armenian-Nazi : collaboration during World War II. Anything to add? Remember, the issue at hand is the Armenian-Nazi collaboration during World War II and the Turkish Genocide. And I still fail to see how you can challenge the following western sources. Source: John Dewey: "The New Republic," Vol. 40, Nov. 12, 1928, pp. 268-9. "Happy the minority [Jews] which has had no Christian nation to protect it. And one recalls that the Jews took up their abode in 'fanatic' Turkey when they were expelled from Europe, especially Spain, by Saintly Christians, and they have lived here for centuries in at least as much tranquility and liberty as their fellow Turkish subjects, all being exposed alike to the rapacity of their common rulers. To one brought up, as most Americans have been, in the Gladstonian and foreign-missionary tradition, the condition of the Jews in Turkey is almost a mathematical demonstration that religious differences have had an influence in the tragedy of Turkey only as they were combined with aspirations for a political separation which every nation in the world would have treated as treasonable. One readily reaches the conclusion that the Jews in Turkey were fortunate..." He also stated that: "they [Armenians] traitorously turned Turkish cities over to the Russian invader; that they boasted of having raised an army of one hundred and fifty thousand men to fight a civil war, and that they burned at least a hundred Turkish villages and exterminated their population." : >I want the documents of Jews in Latvia. I think several other : >people on soc.culture.greek are already disputing with you about the Turkish : >Genocide. : : Is this the joke of the month? Who, when, how, where? What a clown... How about Prof Shaw, a Jewish scholar? Source: Stanford J. Shaw, on Armenian collaboration with invading Russian armies in 1914, "History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey (Volume II: Reform, Revolution & Republic: The Rise of Modern Turkey, 1808-1975)." (London, Cambridge University Press 1977). pp. 315-316. "In April 1915 Dashnaks from Russian Armenia organized a revolt in the city of Van, whose 33,789 Armenians comprised 42.3 percent of the population, closest to an Armenian majority of any city in the Empire...Leaving Erivan on April 28, 1915, Armenian volunteers reached Van on May 14 and organized and carried out a general slaughter of the local Muslim population during the next two days while the small Ottoman garrison had to retreat to the southern side of the lake." "Knowing their numbers would never justify their territorial ambitions, Armenians looked to Russia and Europe for the fulfillment of their aims. Armenian treachery in this regard culminated at the beginning of the First World War with the decision of the revolutionary organizations to refuse to serve their state, the Ottoman Empire, and to assist instead other invading Russian armies. Their hope was their participation in the Russian success would be rewarded with an independent Armenian state carved out of Ottoman territories. Armenian political leaders, army officers, and common soldiers began deserting in droves." "With the Russian invasion of eastern Anatolia in 1914 at the beginning of World War I, the degree of Armenian collaboration with the Ottoman's enemy increased drastically. Ottoman supply lines were cut by guerilla attacks, Armenian revolutionaries armed Armenian civil populations, who in turn massacred the Muslim population of the province of Van in anticipation of expected arrival of the invading Russian armies." Source: Stanford J. Shaw, "History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey," Vol II. Cambridge University Press, London, 1979, pp. 314-317. "...Meanwhile, Czar Nicholas II himself came to the Caucasus to make final plans for cooperation with the Armenians against the Ottomans, with the president of the Armenian National Bureau in Tiflis declaring in response: 'From all countries Armenians are hurrying to enter the ranks of the glorious Russian Army, with their blood to serve the victory of Russian arms...Let the Russian flag wave freely over the Dardanelles and the Bosporus. Let, with Your will, great Majesty, the peoples remaining under the Turkish yoke receive freedom. Let the Armenian people of Turkey who have suffered for the faith of Christ receive resurrection for a new free life under the protection of Russia.'[155] Armenians again flooded into the czarist armies. Preparations were made to strike the Ottomans from the rear, and the czar returned to St. Petersburg confident that the day finally had come for him to reach Istanbul." [155] Horizon, Tiflis, November 30, 1914, quoted by Hovannisian, "Road to Independence," p. 45; FO 2485, 2484/46942, 22083. "Ottoman morale and military position in the east were seriously hurt, and the way was prepared for a new Russian push into eastern Anatolia, to be accompanied by an open Armenian revolt against the sultan.[156]" [156] Hovannisian, "Road to Independence," pp. 45-47; Bayur, III/1, pp. 349-380; W.E.D. Allen and P. Muratoff, "Caucasian Battlefields," Cambridge, 1953, pp. 251-277; Ali Ihsan Sabis, "Harb Hahralaram," 2 vols., Ankara, 1951, II, 41-160; FO 2146 no. 70404; FO 2485; FO 2484, nos. 46942 and 22083. "An Armenian state was organized at Van under Russian protection, and it appeared that with the Muslim natives dead or driven away, it might be able to maintain itself at one of the oldest centers of ancient Armenian civilization. An Armenian legion was organized 'to expel the Turks from the entire southern shore of the lake in preparation for a concerted Russian drive into the Bitlis vilayet.'[162] Thousands of Armenians from Mus and other major centers in the east began to flood into the new Armenian state...By mid-July there were as many as 250,000 Armenians crowded into the Van area, which before the crisis had housed and fed no more than 50,000 people, Muslim and non-Muslim alike.[163]" [162] Hovannisian, "Road to Independence," p. 56; FOP 2488, nos. 127223 and 58350. [163] BVA, Meclis-i Vukela Mazbatalari, debates of August 15-17, 1915; Babi-i Ali Evrak Odasi, no. 175, 321, "Van Ihtilali ve Katl-i Ami," Zilkade 1333/10 September 1915. : Muslim population exterminated by the Armenians: Why? : Who gives a thunder about your pseudo-scholar jokes? I'am arguing about : the Armenian-Nazi colaboration during World War II. Any comment? It could be, perhaps, your head wasn't screwed on just right. In 1941, while the Jews were being assembled for their doom in the Nazi concentration camps, the Armenian volunteers in Germany formed the first Armenian battalion to fight alongside the Nazis. In 1943, this battalion had grown into eight battalions of 20,000-strong under the command of the former guerilla leader Dro (the butcher), who was the former dictator of the short-lived Armenian Dictatorship (1918-1920) and the architect of the cold-blooded genocide of 2.5 million Turks and Kurds between 1914-1920. An Armenian National Council was formed by the notorious Dashnak Party leaders in Berlin, which was recognized by the Nazis. Encouraged by this, the Armenians summarily formed a provisional government that endorsed and espoused fully the principles of the Nazis and declared themselves as the members of the Aryan super race and full participants to Hitler's policy of extermination of the Jews. This Armenian-Nazi conspiracy against the Jews during WWII was an "encore" performance staged by the Armenians during WWI, when they back-stabbed and exterminated 2.5 million Turks by colluding with the invading Russian army. Furthermore, as McCarthy put it, the Armenian dictatorship was granted a respite when the Ottomans admitted defeat and signed the Mudros Armistice with the Allies (October 30, 1918). The Allies had decided to create a Greater Armenia, including the old Russian province of Yerevan and adjoining areas, as well as most parts of Anatolia claimed by the Armenian fanatics. Only the area called Cilicia (around the Ottoman province of Adana) was to be excluded, as it had already been claimed by the French. The Allies quickly set about attempting to disarm Ottoman soldiers and other Turks, who could be expected to oppose their plans. On April 19, 1919 the British Army occupied Kars, gave civilian and military power over to the Armenians, then withdrew. The British planned for Kars to be included in the Armenian Dictatorship, even though the Russian pre-war census had shown Kars Province to be over 60% Muslim. The Turks of Kars were effectively disarmed, but the British could not disarm the Kurds of the mountains. The fate of the Turks was almost an exact replica of what had occurred earlier in Eastern Anatolia. Murder, pillage, genocide and the destruction of Turkish homes and entire Turkish villages drove the Turks of Kars to the mountains or south and west to the safety afforded by remaining units of the Ottoman Army. The British had left the scene to the Armenian genocide squads. Therefore, few Europeans were present to observe the genocide. One British soldier, Colonel Rawlinson, who was assigned to supervise the disarmament of Otoman soldiers, saw what was occurring. Rawlinson wired to his superiors, "in the interest of humanity the Armenians should not be left in independent command of the Moslim population, as, their troops being without discipline and not being under effective control, atrocities were constantly being committed." Come again? : "These European Dashnags, with headquarters in Berlin, appealed to... Why? : No wonder you are in such a mess. Here are the Armenian sources on the : Turkish Holocaust. Why? Obrother. Spell it out, "list of dead Muslims": Source: Documents: Volume I (1919). "Document No: 64," Archive No: 1/2, Cabin No: 109, Drawer No: 4, File No: 359, Section No: 103(1435), Contents No: 3-20. (To Acting Supreme Command - Socialist Salah Cimcoz, Socialist Nesim Mazelyah) "Armenian gangs have been murdering and inflicting cruelties on innocent people of the region. This verified information, supported by clear statements of reliable eyewitnesses, was also confirmed by General Odishelidje, Commander of the Russian Caucasian Army. Armenians are entering every place evacuated by Russians carrying out murders, cruelties, rape and all kind of atrocities which cannot be expressed in writing, murdering all the women, children, aged people who happen to be in the street. These barbarous murders repeated every day with new methods continue and the Russian Army has been urged to intervene to terminate these atrocities. Public opinion is appalled and horrified. Newspapers are describing the happenings as shocking. We have decided to inform all our friends urgently about the situation." "Document No: 65," Archive No: 4/3671, Cabin No: 163, Drawer No: 5, File No: 2947, Section No: 628, Contents No: 3-1, 3-3. (To Acting Supreme Command - Commander, 3rd Army General) "The situation in the cities of Erzincan and Erzurum which we have recently taken over is given below: These two beautiful cities of our country which are alike in the calamities and destruction which they suffered, have been destroyed, as the specially designed and built public and private buildings of these cities were deliberately burnt by Armenians apart from the destruction suffered during the two-year Russian occupation. All barracks buildings of Erzincan, the cavalry barracks in Erzurum, the Government building and Army Corps Headquarters are among those burnt. In short, both cities are burnt, destroyed and trees cut down. As to the people of these cities: All people old enough to use weapons rounded up, taken to the Sarikamis direction for road building and were slaughtered. The remaining people, were subject to cruelties and murder by Armenians following the withdrawal of Russians and were partly annihilated the corpses thrown into wells, burnt in houses, mutilated by bayonets, their abdomens ripped open in slaughterhouses, their lungs and livers torn out, girls and women hung up by their hair, after all kinds of devilish acts. The few people who were able to survive these cruelties, worse than those of the 'Spanish Inquisition,' are in poverty more dead than alive, horrified, some driven insane, about 1500 in Erzincan and 30,000 in Erzurum. The people are hungry and in poverty, for whatever they had has been taken away from them, their lands left uncultivated. The people have just been able to exist with some provisions found in stores left over from the Russians. The villages round Erzincan and Erzurum are in the worst condition. Some villages on the road, have been leveled to the ground, leaving no stone, the people completely massacred. Let me submit to your information with deep grief and regret that history has never before witnessed cruelties at such dimensions." : (a long list) : (a long list)" And still anxiously awaiting... Serdar Argic
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Not exactly dumb, but who remebers the tachometer on the 69 or 70 Firebird bulging out of the _hood_ right in front of the driver. Neat place but I love to know what the elemnts did to its internals after a few years. Also, does the speedomete pointer on many US cars have to be 3 feet long?.
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oops, that's KNX 1070. KNBR is up in 'Frisco, and down at 680.
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??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? Dear Sirs, ? ? ? ? The private agricultural firm "DINA", is breeding pedigree ? ?horses of "sportmodel" class, mainly trakenensky, gannoversky and ? ?thoroughbred horses. We have 17 heads of dams, getters of trakeninsky ? ?and thoroughbread breeds, colts of 1-2 years old, sport live-stock of ? ?horses of concour class (for passing the route with obstacles). The ? ?firm has a warm stable made of brick, arranged to place 60 horses. ? ? We have possibility to expand the field of activity and ? ?systematically prepare our horses of concour class for sale for hard ? ?currency. The experienced staff of the firm (internetional class ? ?master) workes for breeding and training of horses. Additional ? ?investments are necessary to purchase of larger dam live-stock, ? ?construction of the riding-house for training, extra stables. ? ? For two years our firm has been organizing hunting tourism of ? ?the territory of the national park not far from Moscow (about 100 km). ? ? We are also concerned in the development of trading connections ? ?on delivering food products, clothes, foot-wear etc. to Russia. ? ? ? ? Our address: ? ? Russia, Obninsk, ? ? pr. Marksa, 34-130. ? ? phone:(08439)3-49-42, ? ? (08439)3-42-30 ? ? fax: (095)255-22-25 ? ? Electronic Mail: ? ? [email protected] ? ? ? ? Vyacheslav Chereshnev. ? ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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I have a pair of Oakleys that cost about $100 new a year ago. I hardly ever wore them because they just don't look right on me. They are orange and blue and are the "blade" kind (Terminator style). I am willing to sell these for $40 to the first response I get. I also have a Bulls vs. Blazers game for the SNES that is in perfect condition. I am selling it for $35. It includes the instruction manual.
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I'm wondering if it's possible to use radio waves to measure the distance between a transmitter(s) and receiver? Seems to me that you should be able to measure the signal strength and determine distance. This would be for short distances (2000 ft), and I would need to have accuracy of 6 inches, or so. How about measuring vertical distance as well, any chance - or am I getting ridiculous? What frequencies would be best for this? Or does matter? Sorry if I'm "mucking up" the network with one of those questions best answered by Bill Willis via US Mail... and I apologize for not being "tuned-in" to electronics. :-)
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To those interested in the new ATI Ultra Cards: I had posted some questions regarding the new ATI Ultra Pro cards and had asked confirmation of some opinions. This message is a summary of the responses. Thanks to all of you that replied. a) The higher memory limits apply to ISA cards only, as far as I know. The VLB and EISA version should have no problems. b) I'm pretty sure from my experience that the ISA version doesn't work in systems with over 16M Ram. There is supposed to be way of switching the "memory aperture" feature off to prevent this, but apparently it doesn't work. I posted some "help me" messages on the net and people indicated that the EISA card didn't have this problem. c) FALSE d) The VLB card, which I have, allows you to set memory aperture over 32M by using their configuration software. No messing with jumpers necessary. The 32M problem is probably valid only for ISA cards. a) Again, the memory aperture need only be disabled if you have more than 124M RAM (EISA and VLB) or 12 M (ISA). 32M should not be a problem for you. b) Dunno. c) Depends on the bus. YES if ISA, NO if EISA or Localbus a) Nope. I can use 640x480 at 72hz, 24-bit and 800x600 at 70hz, 24-bit, all non-interlaced. b) Yes - According to PC Magazine, they've tested a local bus version that does 1024x768 in 24-bit which may or may not be interlaced. c) Not for the Pro. Sometimes for the Plus. Some modes may run only interlaced on certain monitors. This has nothing to do with 24 bits ... only with screen size. Note that for 24 bit color and Windows you MUST have 2 megs, memory size calculations notwithstanding. a) They aren't perfect, but are much improved. I don't recall the last time which I had to leave mach 32 mode (ATI GUP mode) and switch to 8514 or VGA mode due to software incompatibility. b) True. Many people recommended going back to Build 55 or 54. c) They appear to be excellent, but have a few bugs. For example, certain graphs with dashed lines in Mathcad 3.1 do not print correctly, though they do display OK on the screen. They are about par for fancy cards .. other accelerated cards also have bugs. d) Overall, I like the card, even if driver performance is somewhat less than satisfactory. I am running the 1024*768 16 Color mode as that is all my NT driver for October NT version seems to allow. I will say this that Color performance is not quite as nice as a Diamond Stealth VRAM, but I have not been able to try out a lot of the options on the old driver. a) It's quite fast, but whether or not its the fastest is open to debate. b) Yes - I'll admit it was very very fast in 16-bit mode, which is what I wanted to use it for. Too bad it crashed (in many different ways) every 20 minutes or so... c) Depends on many many things. a) I like it. b) Well - PC Magazine seems to think it is. c) Yes, this appears to be true :-) d) As to greatest thing since sliced bread, I doubt it. Better cards are coming out. Who knows, maybe ATI will come out with something faster yet. Several reviews I read rated one Pycon Winjet card as a superior performer at a cheaper price except for availability of drivers, which Pycon was developing at that time. (PC Magazine, about two months or so back) Overall, the card has a lot of potential, but you have to be able to use it. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- That is the end of the questions. These were the most discussed items in this group so I thought they needed confirmation. For those of you not familiar with the card I have included a summary here (from an ATI ad since I don't have an Graphics Ultra yet.) ATI Graphics Ultra Plus: - Accelerated 1024x768 at 65K colours - True colour(16.7M) at 800x600 - Multimedia Video Acceleration (for Indeo Video,RLE and Video 1 compressed) Stretch full motion video windows to full size - Fast VGA - Includes 3 button mouse (ISA versions only) - Anti-aliased fonts (ed. avail in 16 colour mode only,I think) - Real-time pan and zoom across large virtual windows desktop - Around a 1/2 length card size - Priced from $400 U.S. ATI Graphics Ultra Pro: - Everything in Graphics Ultra Plus - Faster performance with VRAMS - Accelerated 1280x1024 at 256 colours 74Hz non-interlaced - Available in ISA, EISA and Microchannel - Priced from $600 U.S. ATI Technologies (416) 756-0718 I hope this summary can be of use to you. Al P.S. I am not associated with ATI Technologies in any way other than having used their previous ATI Ultra card for a few years (which I generally liked).
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[Prof. Denning's description of SkipJack mostly omitted] CHIP STRUCTURE The Clipper Chip contains a classified 64-bit block encryption algorithm called "Skipjack." The algorithm uses 80 bit keys (compared with 56 for the DES) and has 32 rounds of scrambling (compared with 16 for the DES). It supports all 4 DES modes of operation. Throughput is 16 Mbits a second. [...] F, an 80-bit family key that is common to all chips N, a 30-bit serial number U, an 80-bit secret key that unlocks all messages encrypted with the chip The key K and message stream M (i.e., digitized voice) are then fed into the Clipper Chip to produce two values: E[M; K], the encrypted message stream, and E[E[K; U] + N; F], a law enforcement block. Three questions: 1) It looks like each 64 bits of input gives you 4*64 bits of output: E[M;K] = 64 bits E[K;U] = E[ 80 bits ] = 128 bits E[ E[K;U], N ; F ] = E[ 128 + 30 bits ] = 192 bits Do you really need to transmit all 256 bits each time, or do you only transmit the 192 bits of wiretap block at the beginning? All 256 would be really obnoxious for bandwidth-limited applications like cellular phones (or even regular phones over 2) how do the 4 DES modes interact with the two-part output? Do the various feedback modes only apply to the message block, or also to the wiretap block? Or, if the wiretap block is only transmitted at the beginning, does it get incorporated into everything through feedback modes, but not during ECB mode? 3) Does the Clipper Chip check the wiretap block itself? Does the block have to be present at all? Since the receiving chip doesn't know the transmitter's U, it presumably can't check the validity of E[K;U], so it's limited to checking the *form* of the wiretap block, and maybe checking the serial number for reasonableness (unless there's some sort of back-door structure that lets it recognize a valid E[K;U].) In that case, can you replace the wiretap block with a DIFFERENT wiretap block, presumably an old valid one to avoid attracting attention? (The chip won't do it, so you postprocess the output.) Regular people can do one with their own serial number and a dummy key; paranoid people can use someone else's serial number. On the other hand, if I could think of that solution so easily, presumably the NSA could too - have they done something to block it, like use message encryption that's really E[M; K,U,N] ? Thanks!
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Hi...I need some info on video card. I am looking a video card that can deliver a high quality picture. I need the card to display images (well for advertising company btw), so it must be rich with colors and the speed must be fast too. I am just wondering if somebody can advise me what to buy for such application, and possible the address of the vendor.
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May I suggest you chech out the _Palestinian National Covenant (1964)_. It may not use the exact words as quoted above but I'm sure many will agree that the same message is being issued. Later on when I get back home I will try to find the precise section(s) but you can do the research for now (I hope). I also realize that Yasser Arafat renounced the _Covenant_ *to the Western media only* but he has yet to inform the PNC officially and enequivocally of his exact intentions on this issue. Therefore, as far as we are concerned the _Covenant_ still stands as the "Bible" (so to speak) of the mainstream Palestinian National movement! As a staunch pro-Israel activist I can confidently say that Bnai Brith has NOT influenced my opinions on the Arab-Israeli conflict. As I mentioned above, just a little research on the subject will lead anyone to reach a similar conclusion on the Palestinian National movement (the PLO in most cases). BB does not properly speak for me nor many of the people around me who share my views. What 1948 situation? A negative situation I presume? Is this the same "situation" when the Jordanian occupiers of East Jerusalem would not allow the Jews to go worship at the HOLIEST SITE IN JUDIASM? Was this an example of Qu'ranic law being exercised? If not, I have another suggested reading for you... get into the "soc.culture.arabic" newsgroup where the posters have been debating the topic "Jews in the Qu'ran" (and may I remind you the people doing the debating appear to be devout Muslims with some knowledge of the Qu'ran). You will find that Jews aren't really viewed positively by the Qu'ran (to put it lightly). So how do you think Jews (or any other non-Islamic religion) will be treated by an Islamic state governed by the words of the Qu'ran? I think the 1948-1967 "situation" in Jerusalem will return *at best*! What do you think? All I have to say to that is, once again, see s.c.a - "Jews in the Qu'ran" and think again. "Freedom of choice" is *definitely* not an option in Qu'ranic law especially for non-Muslims and ALL women! Remember the Gulf War? I'm sure you saw the reports about how women had few rights in Saudi Arabia (an Islamic state). Probably nothing! Aside from how to break the news to his Palestinian brethren that the _Covenant_ is "null and void" without getting assassinated himself! In conclusion, Ahmed, you should go to the library and find the _Palestinian National Covenant (1964)_ and read it VERY CAREFULLY. By the way, Redpath Library DOES have it in stock because that is exactly where I found it when I was doing my research. So enjoy the reading and I hope we will be hearing back from you soon! - Mike --- MI KE MIK EMIK EMI K "Opinions expressed above M I K E M I K E M are my own and not that M I K E MIKEM I KEM I K of 'Big Blue'" M I K E M IKE M IKE MIKE
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This is to let you know that the fourth issue of the Copt-Net Newsletter has been issued. The highlights of this issue include: 1. Easter Greating: Christ is risen; Truly he is risen! 2. The Holy Family in Egypt (part 1) 3. Anba Abraam, the Friend of the Poor (part 4) 4. A review of the Coptic Encyclopedia 5. A new Dictionary of the Coptic Language This Newsletter has been prepared by members of Copt-Net, a forum where news, activities, and services of the Coptic Orthodox Churches and Coptic communities outside Egypt are coordinated and exchanged. If you want your name to be included in the mailing list, or have any questions please contact Nabil Ayoub at <[email protected]>.
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I would guess not. Dr. Neil Gehrels of CGRO is the son of Dr. Tom Gehrels of the University of Arizona. Since he's long had research interests in asteroids and other solar-system astronomy, Tom is the one more likely to have discovered a comet (and thus had his name attached to it). Tom Gehrels is a leader in the Spacewatch project, which has recently increased mankind's discovery rate on near-Earth asteroids (they're finding a couple every month). For much more on this interesting guy, read his autobiography, *On a Glassy Sea*.
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Hey Patrick, the Montana Magic played in Billings, not Great Falls... Marc, Phoenix and Houston it is... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _ _ _____ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ - - /____/ ............................................................................... Marc Foster, r.s.h contact for the Oklahoma City Blazers, 1993 Central Hockey University of Oklahoma Geography Department League Adams Cup Internet: [email protected] Champions [email protected] To be placed on the CHL Mailing List, send email to either address above.
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I participated a promotion by a company called Visual Images. They sent me a award certificate three months ago and asked me to buy their promotion package in order to receive the major award. They mislabled my address and I did not receive my package until one month ago. I was mad and angry about how it took them so long to get my package. So I wrote them a letter and requested for a refund. They never return my letter. I was lucky enough to find out their telephone number through operator and received the package. I immediately returned the package and wrote them another letter to ask for refund. The package was returned because they address they put on the package was incorrect. I attempted to call them and learnd that they have changed their telephone number. It took me at least 10 phone calls to find out their new number, but they refused to take any responsibility. I spoke to their manager and she said she would call me back, but she has not call yet. But I was able to get their address from their front desk. Should I just go ahead and send the package? Or should I waite until they call me back? I know there are several people on the net has experience with the same company. I would like to know how they got their money back. If you have similar experience, please advise me. Thanks in advance,
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MLB Standings and Scores for Satruday, April 17th, 1993 (including yesterday's games) NATIONAL WEST Won Lost Pct. GB Last 10 Streak Home Road San Francisco Giants 07 04 .636 -- 6-4 Won 2 04-01 03-03 Houston Astros 06 04 .600 0.5 6-4 Won 1 01-03 05-01 Atlanta Braves 06 06 .500 1.5 5-5 Lost 3 04-03 03-02 Los Angeles Dodgers 04 07 .364 3.0 4-6 Won 1 01-03 03-04 Colorado Rockies 03 06 .333 3.0 3-6 Lost 1 03-03 00-03 San Diego Padres 03 07 .300 3.5 3-7 Won 1 01-04 02-03 Cincinnati Reds 02 08 .200 4.5 2-8 Lost 4 01-03 01-05 NATIONAL EAST Philadelphia Phillies 08 02 .800 -- 8-2 Lost 1 05-01 03-01 Pittsburgh Pirates 07 03 .700 1.0 7-3 Lost 1 03-02 04-01 St. Louis Cardinals 07 03 .700 1.0 7-3 Lost 1 04-02 03-01 New York Mets 05 04 .556 2.5 5-4 Won 1 02-03 03-01 Chicago Cubs 05 05 .500 3.0 5-5 Won 2 02-02 03-03 Montreal Expos 05 05 .500 3.0 5-5 Won 2 02-02 03-03 Florida Marlins 03 07 .300 5.0 3-7 Lost 1 02-04 01-03 AMERICAN WEST Won Lost Pct. GB Last 10 Streak Home Road Texas Rangers 06 03 .667 -- 6-3 Lost 2 04-02 02-01 California Angels 05 03 .625 0.5 5-3 Lost 1 03-02 02-01 Chicago White Sox 05 04 .556 1.0 5-4 Won 2 02-03 03-01 Minnesota Twins 05 04 .556 1.0 5-4 Won 1 02-02 03-02 Oakland Athletics 04 04 .500 1.5 4-4 Lost 2 04-02 00-02 Seattle Mariners 04 05 .444 2.0 4-5 Lost 2 03-02 01-03 Kansas City Royals 02 08 .200 4.5 2-8 Lost 1 01-05 01-03 AMERICAN EAST Boston Red Sox 07 03 .700 -- 7-3 Lost 1 03-01 04-02 New York Yankees 06 04 .600 1.0 6-4 Won 1 03-01 03-03 Detroit Tigers 05 04 .556 1.5 5-4 Won 3 03-00 02-04 Toronto Blue Jays 05 04 .556 1.5 5-4 Lost 1 04-02 01-02 Cleveland Indians 04 06 .400 3.0 4-6 Won 1 03-01 01-05 Baltimore Orioles 03 06 .333 3.5 3-6 Won 2 01-02 02-04 Milwaukee Brewers 02 05 .286 3.5 2-5 Lost 4 00-02 02-03 YESTERDAY'S SCORES (IDLE teams listed in alphabetical order) NATIONAL LEAGUE AMERICAN LEAGUE New York Mets 3 Chicago White Sox 9 Cincinnati Reds 1 Boston Red Sox 4 Florida Marlins 3 California Angels 1 Houston Astros 9 Baltimore Orioles 4 Philadelphia Phillies 1 Kansas City Royals 3 Chicago Cubs 3 Minnesota Twins 4 (10) Colorado Rockies 2 Seattle Mariners 0 Montreal Expos 3 Detroit Tigers 5 Pittsburgh Pirates 4 Toronto Blue Jays 1 Los Angeles Dodgers 7 Cleveland Indians 13 Atlanta Braves 0 Texas Rangers 3 San Francisco Giants 1 New York Yankees 5 St. Louis Cardinals 1 Oakland Athletics PPD San Diego Padres 5 Milwaukee Brewers RAIN -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Hernandez | RAMS | | /.\ ******* _|_|_ / | LAKERS [email protected] | KINGS | |__ | | DODGERS _|_|_ | | RAIDERS [email protected] | ANGELS |____||_|_| ******* | | |___| CLIPPERS
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The PowerBook 170 hardware doesn't have a wakeup timer. Nor does the 140. The Mac Portable had one, and I think the PowerBook 100 had one. I don't know about the newer PowerBooks, but I kind of doubt it. I got bit by this too, and it took my a while rooting around on the developer CD before I found this out.
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The trouble with trying to find out the truth is that Roehm and his buddies were ACCUSED OF being flaming faggots, one of the pretexts for the Night of Long Knives in which Roehm and most of the SA wing of the NSDAP were purged. Since the accusers thereafter controlled the records, anything bearing on the subject -- true or not -- has to be considered tainted evidence. The available data suggest that Roehm and his crowd, the SA -- Sturmabteilung, "Storm Troopers" -- left the world a better place when they departed, but concrete particulars are still no more than more or less shrewd guesses. -- Diccon Frankborn
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION This is a request for discussion on the creation of a newsgroup concerning Saab cars. It will allow participaants to exchange information on purchasing, maintaining, repairing, and outfitting Saabs. Group Name: rec.autos.saab Status: Unmoderated Rationale: There may be enough people with Saab cars or interested in buying a Saab or interested in knowing more about Saabs for any reason to justify such a new newsgroup. The recent growth of the net could improve the turnaround time between posing a question and receiving answers from the community. Discussion: Comments on this proposed new newsgroup should be posted to the USENET Newsgroup "news.groups". If the reader is not able to do so, comments may be e-mailed to the proposer, at the address below. Voting: If no problems arise, voting will start 1 month from the posting date of this RFD. Proposer: Tommy Reingold [email protected]
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I don't know for sure if Winchester made any commemeratives. If I recall correctly, the rifle itself was a .44-40 Model 92 with an oversized loop lever. I don't think Winchester makes this rifle any more. Rossi make a Model 92 look-alike in .38 Special and .357 Magnum.
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Yeah, I'm sure that our lab would love a ride (he's the type that sticks his head out car windows) but I didn't think that he would enjoy being bungee- corded to the gas tank, and 65 lbs or squirming beast is a bit much for a backpack (ok who's done it....).
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: >We could start with those posters who annoy us the most, like Bobby or : >Bill. : Your wish is my command. : Bill "Shit-stirrer" Connor : Bobby "Circular" Mozumder I'm not sure my new nom d'net is exactly appropriate, but it comes very close. Considering what I have to wade through before I make one of my insightful, dead-on-the-money repsonses, I have to agree that something's getting stirred up. I would like to believe my characterization of what I respond to would be kinder though, but if you insist ... I am also surprised to find that I have offended anyone, but in some cases it's unavoidable if I am to say anything at all. For those to whom fairness is important, check out my contributions, haven't I been most generous and patient, a veritable paragon of gentility? Oh, BTW, I don't mind being paired with Bobby; I admire his tenacity. How many of you would do as well in this hostile environment - you think -I'm- offensive ?! read your own posts ... Love and kisses, Bill P.S.
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Scott, I'm not so sure if this is helpful, but I usually use XV v2.21. I use Sun IPCs and IPXs, and it works fine. It can display in a good number of ways.(root being one of them) It's also possible to have XV put up a background automatically at login. Hope this helps. Jason Weiler <[email protected]>
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I have a researcher who collecting electical impulses from the human heart through a complex Analog to Digital system he has designed and inputting this information into his EISA bus HP Vectra Computer running DOS and the Phar Lap DOS extender. He want to purchase a very high-performance video card for 3-D modeling. He is aware of a company called Matrox but he is concerned about getting married to a company and their video routine library. He would hope some more flexibility: to choose between several card manufacturers with a standard video driver. He would like to write more generic code- code that could be easily moved to other cards or computer operating systems in the future. Is there any hope? Any information would be greatly appreciated- Please, if possible, respond directly to internet mail to [email protected]
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Just thought I would mention that Sony no longer manufactures the CPD- 1304 because of several manufacturing flaws. The new model is now the 1430, which just like Apple's new Sony Trinitrom CLAIMS to be 14 inches. I'm not sure of the details on the defects, but I work at our schools bookstore and can tell you that nearly half of them were returned with some kind of defect or another.
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The key question is whether non-Clipper encryption will be made illegal. The clear middle ground implied by these statements is to say that Americans have the right to Clipper encryption, but not to unbreakable encryption. This implies that, ultimately, non-Clipper strong encryption must become illegal. (As an aside, isn't the language here jarring? All this talk about "harmonious balance" when they're talking about taking away people's right to communications privacy?) Although the article emphasizes voice communication, data and mail encryption is mentioned as well: It looks like the worst nightmares raised by Dorothy Denning's proposals are coming true. If the government continues on this course, I imagine that we will see strong cryptography made illegal. Encryption programs for disk files and email, as well as software to allow for encrypted voice communications, will be distributed only through the "underground". People will have to learn how to hide the fact that they are protecting their privacy. It's shocking and frightening to see that this is actually happening here.
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Liberals and supporters of Clinton say that costs made the action necessary. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Podleski | phone: 216-433-4000 NASA Lewis Research Center | Cleveland, Ohio 44135 | email: [email protected]
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Any pointers to articles, or personal opinions, critiquing user interface toolkits that operate across many windowing systems (e.g., X, MS Windows, Macintosh) - you know, Open Interface, XVT, Aspect ... If you reply with your opinion, please BRIEFLY state your choice and a short discussion why. Steve Maher [email protected] --
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Here are some notes about what the church is to be like and some helpful ideas about how to choose a church: Colossians 1:15-18 A. Jesus is the head of the body, the church B. You cannot say "yes" to Jesus, but "no" to the church Ephesians 2:19-22 A. The church is the family of God B. The church is based on the Word of God only Cornerstone=Christ Foundation= Apostles=New Testament Prophets=Old Testament (see Revelation 21:9-14) 1 Corinthians 12:12-13 A. Baptism is when we become a member of the church As for the question of denominations: A. The Bible teaches that there is only ONE church from Ephesians 4:4-6, Romans 12:4-5, 1 Corinthians 12:12-13 B. 1 Corinthians 1:10-13 says that there should be no divisions in the church. There should be no following of personalities in the church (and in time, their writings) C. There are so many churches today because of a problem. 2 Timothy 4:1-4 says that people will turn away from the truth and try to find a church that teaches a doctrine that suits their lifestyle Hebrews 10:24-25 A. Do not miss church B. Purpose is to encourage each other, so we will remain faithful. Involved on a relationship level in the church C. Must come to ALL services Another verse which is helpful is Hebrews 3:12-15. The church should be encouraging daily, as it is their duty to do. Of course, more standards apply: 1 Timothy 4:16 People in the church should be watching their lives and doctrines to make sure they both live up to the Word entirely (ie, disciples). Acts 17:10-12 The pastor does not come close to the Apostle Paul (natural conclusion since the Apostle Paul talked with Jesus directly face to face), so if the Bereans, who were considered noble, didn't take Paul at his word but checked out what he said with Scripture to verify his statements, then church members are to do the same and verify the pastor's statements. If they are not verifiable or valid in light of other verses, then that group should be avoided as a church (would've made a wonderful suggestion to the Waco group, especially in light of Matthew 24).
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Hello, I just got some SIMMs, at least one of which does not work. I don't know if there is a software that can test SIMMs thoroughly or I could just rely on the RAM test performed by my computer during the start up. When I installed a dead SIMM into an LC or an LC II, there would be a strange music and no display on the screen. Why? I need your help! Thanks in advance
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Does anyone know what frequencies the wireless transmitter/receiver microphone systems that Radio Shack sells operate at? I've tried everything short of opening one up (not actually owning one makes this difficult...) and just looking.. Any help would be greatly appreciated.. These systems are designed for wireless PA systems, etc.. Thanks,
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I think I can. Largely as a result of efforts by people reading this group writing letters and making phone calls the following has happened: 1. NASA reprogrammed funds to keep NASP alive in 1991. 2. Efforts to kill DC-X and the SSRT progam where twice twarted (Feb. and June of last year). 3. Gouldin kept his job in spite of heavy lobbying against him. This may not be what Mark was thinking of but it shows that the readers of sci.space DO have power and influence. Allen
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A(> Can anyone tell me if a bloodcount of 40 when diagnosed as hypoglycemic is A(> dangerous, i.e. indicates a possible pancreatic problem? One Dr. says no, the A(> other (not his specialty) says the first is negligent and that another blood A(> test should be done. Also, what is a good diet (what has worked) for a hypo- A(> glycemic? TIA. A(> A(> A(> Anthony Anello A(> Fermilab A(> Batavia, Illinois Once you have your hypoglycemia CONFIRMED through the proper channels, you might consider ther following: 1) Chelated Manganese 25-50mg/day. 2) Chelated Chromium 400-600mcg/day. 3) Increase protein through foods or supplements. 4) Avoid supplements/foods high in Potassium, Calcium, Zinc. 5) Avoid Vit C supplements in excess of 100mg. 6) Avoid honey and foods high in simple sugars. 7) Enjoy breads, cereals, grains... Discuss the above with your health practitioner for compatibility with your body chemistry and safety. --Ron--
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Sorry, Bill, I had to clear this up. There may be good evolutionary arguments against homosexuality, but these don't qualify. [deletions] [deletions] Oh? I guess all those social insects (e.g. ants, bees, etc.) which have one breeding queen and a whole passel of sterile workers are on the way out, huh? I refer you to the bonobos, a species of primate as closeley related to humans as chimpanzees (that is, very closely). They have sex all the time, homosexual as well as heterosexual. When the group finds food, they have sex. Before the go to sleep at night, they have sex. After they escape from or fight off prdators, they have sex. Sex serves a very important social function above and beyond reproduction in this species. A species closely related to humans. There is some indication that sex performs a social function in humans, as well, but even if not, this shows that such a function is not *impossible*. Sincerely, Ray Ingles [email protected]
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SP> From: [email protected] (Sharon Paulson) SP> to describe here. I have a fourteen year old daugter who experienced SP> a seizure on November 3, 1992 at 6:45AM after eating Kellog's Frosted SP> Flakes. SP> Well, we were going along fine and the other morning, April 5, she had SP> a bowl of another Kellog's frosted kind of cereal, Fruit Loops (I am SP> When I mentioned what she ate the first time as a possible reason for SP> the seizure the neurologist basically negated that as an idea. Now SP> after this second episode, so similar in nature to the first, even SP> he is scratching his head. There's no data that sugar-coated cereals cause seizures. I haven't even seen anything anecdotal on it. Given how common they are eaten - do you know any child or adolescent who *doesn't* eat the stuff? - I think that if there were a relationship we would know it by now. Also, there's nothing weird in those cereals. As far as the brain is concerned (except for a few infantile metabolic disorders such as galactosemia), sugar is sugar, regardless if it is coated on cereal, sprinkled onto cereal, or dissolved in soda, coffee or whatever. There was some interest a few years ago in aspartame lowering seizure thresholds, but I don't believe anything ever came of it.
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Hi, I am programming in XView, SunOS 4.1.2 & OpenWindows 3.0. I would like to rotate some text and display it. I did read the FAQ in comp.windows.x but am not sure how do I translate it to XView. I would appreciate if someone can give me tips on how to do it. Thanx. - Mahendra. PS : As I am not a frequent news group reader, I would appreciate if answers/replies would be mailed to me. I will post a follow-up. --
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============================================================================== Please bear with me as i am new at this game, i apologize unreservedly if i hav e posted another message earlier by mistake. but i digress, could anyone out th ere please explain exactly what DMORF does (dtax.exe). Does it simply fade one bitmap into another or does it reshape one bitmap into another. Excuse my ignor ance.....
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OY] Henrik (?), OY] Your ignorance manifests itself in an awkward form of intransigence. I'm not OY] going to spend time to review with you the recent history of Cyprus. Good !! Go back to your references and read it over and over ... OY] If you are really interested, I can provide you with a number of references OY] on the issue. Just send me EMail for that. You think I am that STUPID to ask you for REFERENCES ! NOT ! I have many GREEK friends that I could ask for the INFO if I needed. I have already read many articles and DO NOT need your help. Boy, how generous !! OY] Relax! You're swinging fists into open air... I was *agreeing* with you, OY] assuming that would be one of your points that you did not state! You may OY] not be very much used to it, to be agreed with - that is, but take it more OY] easily. !:-) Believe me, I am so relaxed ... henrik] However, I hope that the Armenians WILL force a TURKISH airplane henrik] to LAND for purposes of SEARCHING for ARMS similar to the one [OY] No, Henrik, believe me: You don't hope that. IF Armenia is goint to do that, then so be it. henrik] that happened last SUMMER. Turkey searched an AMERICAN plane henrik] (carrying humanitarian aid) bound to ARMENIA. OY] Was that after or before one French plane changed its route to avoid OY] inspection???
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Thanks to all who responded to my original post. I got the number for Western Digital tech support and determined that I need to upgrade the BIOS to the Super BIOS. It will handle hard drives with up to 16 read/ write heads and up to 1024 cylinders. The upgrade is $15, payable by check or money order. Send to: Western Digital Corporation Technical Support Group P.O. Box 19665 Irvine, CA 92713-9665 The Super BIOS is for any WD XT hard drive controller card in the WD1002 series. The BIOS on my system would only handle up to 20mb drives. The responses to my request for help follow my .sig. Warning: It's long. Keith -- _____________________________ __-----____--___--__-----____ D. Keith Rice __--__--___--__--___--__--___ University of North Texas __--___--__--_--____--___--__ Department of Computer Science __--___--__----_____--__--___ Denton, Texas, USA __--___--__--_--____--_--____ __--__--___--__--___--__--___ [email protected] __-----____--___--__--___--__ [email protected] _____________________________ <========================== responses below ==========================> From [email protected] Sat Apr 3 16:45:03 1993 Received: from mailbox.syr.EDU by ponder (5.61/1.36) id AA15218; Sat, 3 Apr 93 16:45:00 -0600 From: [email protected] (Bob Valentine) Received: from mothra.syr.EDU by mailbox.syr.edu (4.1/CNS) id AA16647; Sat, 3 Apr 93 17:44:49 EST Received: by mothra.syr.EDU (4.1/Spike-2.0) id AA03607; Sat, 3 Apr 93 17:43:27 EST Date: Sat, 3 Apr 93 17:43:27 EST Message-Id: <[email protected]> To: drice@ponder Status: OR To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Drive/Controller Compatibility Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware In-Reply-To: <drice.733866833@ponder> Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY Cc: Ah, finally a question I can answer. I mess with this older stuff alot. Kinda fun. 8) First problem I can forsee is that the ST-251 will not be compadible with that WD card unless it has the right bios rom. Check the numbers on it. It should be the only non-smt chip on the board. Slightly below center, and left. The bios should read either : 62-000042-015 or 62-000094-0x2 If the last 3 digits are 013, you got problems. Looks right. W5 and W7 are factory jumped (with a trace) between pins 1 and 2 to select the primary controller address. Looks right. [art deleted] I notice you left out the S1 jumper table settings. Those are what control what drive the controller thinks it has. If you have the 62-000042-015 rom, set it like this: 5 + + open 6 + + open 7 + + open 8 + + open 4 + + closed 3 + + closed 2 + + open 1 + + open Note: those are how WD runs the numbers on the jumper block. Top to bottom. +'s represent the jumper pins. Pins 3,4, and 8 select the first drive setting (drive 0) and pins 1,2 and 7 select the second drive (drive 1). If you have the 62-000094 rom, it's a auto-config, and I'll have to look up how to do it... I don't have the big book right here. See above. You might have problems if the S1 jumpers are not right. Also, at the risk of being insulting, make sure the cables are on right and good. 8). On the jumper on the 251, try moving it to the opposite side of the drive. It's one or the other. The narrow data cable goes to J2. I've thrown it on J3 a few times and banged my head for a day..... Dunno. IBM roms had to be later than 10/27/82. A quick way to check is to boot dos and run debug. Enter: -d f000:fff5 fffc (the - is the debug prompt) This will return the rom date, if it's of any use. If I oversimplified any of the above, I appologize. It's just hard to know what caliber of person I'm talking to. 8). --> Bob Valentine <-- --> [email protected] <-- From [email protected] Mon Apr 5 06:33:46 1993 Received: from unitrix.utr.ac.za by ponder (5.61/1.36) id AA16194; Mon, 5 Apr 93 06:32:59 -0500 Received: by unitrix.utr.ac.za (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0nfpMA-0001X7C; Mon, 5 Apr 93 13:28 GMT Message-Id: <[email protected]> From: [email protected] (Prof P. Piacenza) Subject: ST251 To: drice@ponder Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1993 13:28:49 +0200 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL11] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 24559 Status: OR If you are using a TWISTED 34-way cable then move the jumper on your drive to the neighbouring pins :8::::::. Make sure that the twisted cable is for a hard disk (and not a floppy disk) - the coloured stripe (pin 1) should be furthest from the twist. This may also help. PRODUCTS FOR XT SYSTEMS HARD DISK CONTROLLERS FOR MFM HARD DISK DRIVES Reference NOTE 1. WD1002A-WX1, feature F300R - Half-slot size hard disk controller card with an ST506/ST412 interface. It supports 2 MFM drives with up to 16 heads and 1024 cylinders and is jumper configurable for secondary addressing and default drive tables. Built in ROM BIOS supports non-standard drive types, virtual drive formatting, dual drive operation, bad track formatting and dynamic formatting. This board features a power connector for filecard applications and it will also operate in AT systems. Please note that this controller card will be unavailable from the manufacturer (Western Digital) after March, 1989. Reference NOTE 2. WDXT-GEN, feature F300R - Half-slot size hard disk controller card with an ST506/ST412 interface. It supports 2 MFM hard disk drives with up to 8 heads and 1024 cylinders. Built-in ROM BIOS supports non-standard drive types, virtual drive formatting, dual drive operation, bad track formatting and dynamic formatting. Please note that this controller card will be unavailable from the manufacturer (Western Digital) after March, 1989. WD1004A-WX1, feature F300R - Half-slot size disk controller card with an ST506/ST412 interface. It supports 2 MFM drives with up to 16 heads and 1024 cylinders and is jumper configurable for secondary addressing and default drive tables. Built in ROM BIOS supports non-standard drive types, virtual drive formatting, dual drive operation, bad track formatting and dynamic formatting. This board features a power connector for filecard applications and it will also operate in AT systems. Reference NOTE 2. WDXT-GEN2, feature F300R - Half-slot size hard disk controller card with an ST506/ST412 interface. It supports 2 MFM hard disk drives with up to 8 heads and 1024 cylinders. Built-in ROM BIOS supports non-standard drive types, virtual drive formatting, dual drive operation, bad track formatting and dynamic formatting. Reference NOTE 2. HARD DISK CONTROLLERS FOR RLL HARD DISK DRIVES Reference NOTE 2. WD1002-27X, feature F301R - Half-slot size hard disk controller card with an ST506/ST412 interface. It supports 2 RLL hard disk drives with up to 16 heads and 1024 cylinders and is jumper configurable for secondary addressing and default drive tables. Built in ROM BIOS supports non-standard drive types, virtual drive formatting, dual drive operation, bad track formatting and dynamic formatting. This board features a power connector for filecard applications and it will also operate in AT systems. Please note that this controller card will be unavailable from the manufacturer (Western Digital) after March, 1989. Reference NOTE 2. WD1002A-27X, feature 300R - Half-slot size hard disk controller with an ST506/ST412 interface. It supports 2 RLL drives with up to 16 heads and 1024 cylinders. Built-in ROM BIOS supports non- standard drive types, virtual drive formatting, bad track formatting and dynamic formatting. Please note that this controller card will be unavailable from the manufacturer (Western Digital) after March, 1989. WD1004-27X, feature F301R - Half-slot size hard disk controller card with an ST506/ST412 interface. It supports 2 RLL hard disk drives with up to 16 heads and 1024 cylinders and is jumper configurable for secondary addressing and default drive tables. Built in ROM BIOS supports non-standard drive types, virtual drive formatting, dual drive operation, bad track formatting and dynamic formatting. This board features a power connection for filecard applications and it will also operate in AT systems. Reference NOTE 2. WD1004A-27X, feature F300R - Half-slot size hard disk controller with an ST506/ST412 interface. It supports 2 RLL drives with up to 16 heads and 1024 cylinders. Built-in ROM BIOS supports non-standard drive types, virtual drive formatting, bad track formatting and dynamic formatting. NOTE 1: AT&T 6300 - The AT&T 6300 and the AT&T 6300 PLUS contain system BIOS chips that support the hard disk drive. When using a Western Digital XT controller card the system will not "boot." To solve this problem, one of the ROM BIOS chips must be disabled. To disable the BIOS on your Western Digital XT controller card, you must remove the jumper at position W-3 or add a jumper at position R-23 (depending on which model of XT controller you are using). -2- NOTE 2: TANDY 1000 SYSTEMS - The WD1002A-WX1, WD1004A-WX1, WDXT-GEN2 and the WD1004-27X can be modified to operate in Tandy 1000 series computers, models SX, TX and the original or "A" version. These computers utilize an interrupt of 2 (IRQ2) instead of IRQ5, the IBM standard. To modify the WD1002A-WX1 or the WD1002-27X to operate in these systems, you must cut the etch between pin 1 and pin 2 at jumper position W-7. Then solder pin 2 and pin 3 at the position (W-7). To complete the modification, a jumper must be added to position 7 of switch S-1 (2 rows of 8 pins). PLEASE NOTE THAT ANY PHYSICAL MODIFICATION TO YOUR WESTERN DIGITAL HARD DISK CONTROLLER VOIDS THE WARRANTY ON YOUR BOARD. To modify the WD1004A-WX1, WDXT-GEN2 or the WD1004-27X for your Tandy 1000 system, a zero ohm resister must be soldered to jumper position W-27. This will change the interrupt from IRQ5 to IRQ2. XT CONTROLLERS FOR FLOPPY DISK DRIVES WD1002A-FOX - Half-slot floppy disk controller for XT or AT systems. Four versions of the board are available: Feature F001 supports two floppy disk drives. Feature F002 supports four floppy disk drives and includes an optional 37-pin control, data and power connector and an optional 4-pin power connector. Feature F003 supports two floppy disk drives and includes a ROM BIOS that will enable your system to recognize floppy disk drive that may not be supported by your AT system ROM BIOS. The optional ROM BIOS will also allow this controller card to operate high density floppy disk drives in an XT system. Feature F004 supports four floppy disk drives and includes an optional 37-pin control, data and power connector, an optional 4-pin power connector and a ROM BIOS that will enable your system to recognize floppy disk drives that may not be supported by your AT system ROM BIOS. The optional ROM BIOS will also allow this controller card to operate high density floppy disk drives in an XT system. -3- PRODUCTS FOR AT SYSTEMS HARD DISK CONTROLLERS FOR MFM HARD DISK DRIVES - NO FLOPPY SUPPORT WD1003-WAH, feature F003R - Hard disk controller card with an ST506/ST412 interface. It supports 2 MFM drives with up to 16 heads and 2048 cylinders, 3:1 interleave. WD1003V-MM1, feature F300R - Hard disk controller card with an ST506/ST412 interface. It supports 2 MFM drives with up to 16 heads and 2048 cylinders, 2:1 interleave. The "V" boards can run in high speed AT systems (10 to 16 megahertz system speed). WD1006-WAH , feature F001R - Hard disk controller card with an ST506/ST412 interface. It supports 2 MFM drives with up to 16 heads and 2048 cylinders, 1:1 interleave. WD1006V-MM1, feature F300R - Hard disk controller card with an ST506/ST412 interface. It supports 2 MFM drives with up to 16 heads and 2048 cylinders, 1:1 interleave and faster data transfer due to "look ahead caching." The "V" boards can run in high speed AT systems (10 to 16 megahertz system speed). HARD DISK CONTROLLERS FOR MFM HARD DISK DRIVES AND FLOPPY DISK DRIVES WD1003-WA2, feature F003R - Hard disk controller card with an ST506/ST412 interface, full AT form factor. It supports 2 MFM drives with up to 16 heads and 2048 cylinders, at 3:1 interleave and 2 floppy disk drives (360K and 1.2 MB). WD1003A-WA2, feature F003R - Hard disk controller card with an ST506/ST412 interface, full XT form factor. It supports 2 MFM drives with up to 16 heads and 2048 cylinders, at 3:1 interleave and 2 floppy disk drives (360K and 1.2 MB). WD1003V-MM2, feature F300R - Hard disk controller card with an ST506/ST412 interface. It supports a maximum of 2 MFM drives with up to 16 heads and 2048 cylinders at 2:1 interleave, and 2 floppy disk drives (5-1/4" 360K, 1.2Mb; 3-1/2" 720K, 1.44Mb). The "V" boards can run in high speed AT systems, (10 to 16 megahertz system speed). WD1006V-MM2, feature F300R - Hard disk controller card with an ST506/ST412 interface. It supports a maximum of 2 MFM drives with up to 16 heads and 2048 cylinders at 1:1 interleave and faster data transfer due to "look ahead caching" and 2 floppy disk drives (5-1/4" 360K, 1.2 Mb; 3-1/2" 720K, 1.44 Mb). The "V" boards can run in high speed AT systems, (10 to 16 megahertz system speed). -4- HARD DISK CONTROLLERS FOR RLL HARD DISK DRIVES - NO FLOPPY SUPPORT WD1003-RAH - Hard disk controller card with an ST506/ST412 interface. It supports 2 RLL hard disk drives with up to 16 heads and 2048 cylinders at 3:1 interleave. WD1003V-SR1 - Hard disk controller card with an ST506/ST412 interface. It supports a maximum of 2 RLL hard disk drives with up to 16 heads and 2048 cylinders at 2:1 interleave. The "V" boards can run in high speed AT systems (10 to 16 megahertz system speed). Feature F301R includes an optional ROM BIOS that allows the user to define the drive's parameters. Feature F300R does not include the ROM BIOS and you must use the drive tables on your system's ROM BIOS that must contain the appropriate drive parameters. WD1006-RAH - Hard disk controller card with an ST506/ST412 interface. It supports a maximum of 2 RLL hard disk drives with up to 16 heads and 2048 cylinders, 1:1 interleave. Feature F001R includes an optional ROM BIOS that provides additional drive parameter tables. Feature F300R does not include the ROM BIOS and you must use the drive tables on your system's ROM BIOS that must contain the appropriate drive parameters. WD1006V-SR1 - Hard disk controller card with an ST506/ST412 interface. It supports 2 RLL hard disk drives with up to 16 heads and 2048 cylinders, 1:1 interleave and faster data transfer due to "look ahead caching." The "V" boards can run in high speed AT systems (10 to 16 megahertz system speed). Feature F301R includes an optional ROM BIOS that allows the user to define the drive's parameters. Feature F300R does not include the ROM BIOS and you must use the drive tables on your system's ROM BIOS that must contain the appropriate drive parameters. HARD DISK CONTROLLERS FOR RLL HARD DISK DRIVES AND FLOPPY DISK DRIVES WD1003-RA2, feature F001R - Hard disk controller card with an ST506/ST412 interface. It supports a maximum of 2 RLL hard disk drives with up to 16 heads and 2048 cylinders, at 3:1 interleave, and 2 floppy disk drives (5-1/4" 360K, 1.2 Mb). -5- WD1003V-SR2 - Hard disk controller card with an ST506/ST412 interface. It supports a maximum of 2 RLL hard disk drives with up to 16 heads and 2048 cylinders, at 2:1 interleave, and 2 floppy disk drives, (5-1/4" 360K, 1.2 Mb; 3-1/2" 720K, 1.44 Mb). The "V" boards run in high speed AT systems (10 to 16 megahertz system speed). Feature F301R includes an optional ROM BIOS that allows the user to define the drive's parameters. Feature 300R does not include the ROM BIOS and you must use the drive tables on your system's ROM BIOS that must contain the appropriate drive parameters. WD1006V-SR2 - Hard disk controller card with an ST506/ST412 interface. It supports a maximum of 2 RLL hard disk drives with up to 16 heads, 2048 cylinders and 2 floppy disk drives (5-1/4" 360K, 1.2 Mb; 3-1/2" 720K, 1.44 Mb). It also features 1:1 interleave and faster data transfer due to "look ahead caching". The "V" boards can run in high speed AT systems (10 to 16 megahertz system speed). Feature F301R includes an optional ROM BIOS that allows the user to define the drive's parameters. Feature 300R does not include the ROM BIOS and you must use the drive tables on your system's ROM BIOS that must contain the appropriate drive parameters. HARD DISK CONTROLLERS FOR ESDI HARD DISK DRIVES - NO FLOPPY SUPPORT - WD1007A-WAH - This controller card will support up to 2 ESDI hard disk drives, 10 megabit per second data transfer rate and 1:1 interleave. Feature F301R includes an optional ROM BIOS with "shadow RAM" that will enable the controller card to interface with all types of ESDI drives without modifying the system ROM BIOS. Feature F300R does not include the ROM BIOS and you must use the drive tables on your system's ROM BIOS that must contain the appropriate drive parameters. WD1007V-SE1/ME1 - This controller card will support up to 2 ESDI hard disk drives, 15 megabit per second data transfer rate and 1:1 interleave. The "V" boards can run in high speed AT systems, (10 to 16 megahertz system speed). Feature F301R includes an optional ROM BIOS with "shadow RAM" that will enable the controller card to interface with all types of ESDI drives without modifying the system ROM BIOS. Feature F300R does not include the ROM BIOS and you must use the drive tables on your system's ROM BIOS that must contain the appropriate drive parameters. -6- HARD DISK CONTROLLERS FOR ESDI HARD DISK DRIVES AND FLOPPY DISK DRIVES WD1007A-WA2 - This controller card will support up to 2 ESDI hard disk drives, 10 megabit per second data transfer rate, 1:1 interleave and 2 floppy disk drives (5-1/4" 360K, 1.2 Mb; 3-1/2" 720K, 1.44 Mb). Feature F301R includes an optional ROM BIOS with "shadow RAM" that will enable the controller card to interface with all types of ESDI drives without modifying the system ROM BIOS. Feature F300R does not include the ROM BIOS and you must use the drive tables on your system's ROM BIOS that must contain the appropriate drive parameters. WD1007V-SE2/ME2 - This controller card will support up to 2 ESDI hard disk drives, 15 megabit per second data transfer rate, 1:1 interleave and 2 floppy drives (5-1/4" 360K, 1.2 Mb; 3-1/2" 720K, 1.44 Mb). The "V" boards can run in high speed AT systems (10 to 12 megahertz bus speed). Feature F301R includes an optional ROM BIOS with "shadow RAM" that will enable the controller card to interface with all types of ESDI drives without modifying the system ROM BIOS. Feature F300R does not include the ROM BIOS and you must use the drive tables on your system's ROM BIOS that must contain the appropriate drive parameters. WD1007A-WA4 - This controller card will support up to 2 ESDI hard disk drives, 10 megabit per second data transfer rate, 1:1 interleave and 2 floppy disk drives (5-1/4" 360K, 1.2 Mb; 3-1/2" 720K, 1.44 Mb). This board also has a serial port and parallel port. Feature F301R includes an optional ROM BIOS with "shadow RAM" that will enable the controller card to interface with all types of ESDI drives without modifying the system ROM BIOS. Feature F300R does not include the ROM BIOS and you must use the drive tables on your system's ROM BIOS that must contain the appropriate drive parameter. -7- HARD DISK CONTROLLERS FOR SCSI HARD DISK DRIVES 7000-ASC - A SCSI host adapter that serves as an interface between the AT bus and the SCSI bus. All necessary drivers and receivers are included, permitting direct cable connections to the SCSI bus through a 50 pin connector and to the AT bus through two edge connectors. The 7000-ASC utilizes jumper configurable options that enable the address space, DMA channels and interrupt requests to be selected to suit the end user's application. The board also features word data transfer at 4 megabytes per second (synchronous), an on-board floppy disk controller and a ROM BIOS. Please note that the 7000-ASC operates using standard DOS 3.2 or DOS 3.3 only. 7000-FASST2 - This SCSI host adapter card provides the same features as the 7000-ASC plus additional support capabilities using software developed by Columbia Data Products. The 7000- FASST2 will support MS-DOS 3.2-3.3, Compaq DOS 3.31, PC-DOS 4.0, PC-MOS/386 version 2.1, XENIX, Microsoft Windows, Novell and Sytos tape backup. WDATXT-FASST KIT - An "unintelligent" SCSI host adapter that is compatible with the IBM XT, AT and compatible systems. It uses a 50 pin external SCSI bus "D" connector with a standard 50 pin internal SCSI cable. The WDATXT-FASST can be used as both a target and an initiator and it serves as an excellent tool for SCSI designers. It also provides a low cost alternative for end- users desiring to install a SCSI peripheral device such as a hard disk drive or a tape backup unit. The kit includes an 8-bit SCSI HBA board, manual, FASST software diskettes and an internal SCSI cable. SYTOS TAPE BACKUP - (Utility for 7000-FASST) - FASST-SYTOS - FASST version of Sytos tape backup utilities. MS-DOS compatible, it runs with FASST software products Revision 3.3+. HARD DISK CONTROLLERS FOR PS/2 MODEL 50, 60, 80 SYSTEMS (MICROCHANNEL ARCHITECTURE) WD1006V-MC1, feature F300R - Hard disk controller with an ST506/ST412 interface for microchannel systems. It supports 2 MFM drives with up to 16 heads and 2048 cylinders, 1:1 interleave and faster data transfer due to "look ahead caching." The"V" boards can run in high speed AT systems (10 to 16 megahertz system speed). -8- WD1007V-MC1, feature F300R - This controller card will support up to 2 ESDI hard disk drives, 15 megabit per second transfer rate and it contains a ROM BIOS with "shadow RAM" that will enable the controller card to interface with all types of ESDI hard disk drives without modifying the system BIOS. It uses 1:1 interleave. The "V" boards can run in high speed AT systems, (10 to 12 megahertz bus speed). CONTROLLERS FOR FLOPPY DISK DRIVES ONLY WD1002A-FOX - Half-slot floppy disk controller for XT or AT systems. Four versions of the board are available: Feature F001 supports two floppy disk drives. Feature F002 supports four floppy disk drives and includes an optional 37-pin control, data and power connector and an optional 4-pin power connector. Feature F003 supports two floppy disk drives and includes a ROM BIOS that will enable your system to recognize floppy disk drives that may not be supported by your AT system ROM BIOS. The optional ROM BIOS will also allow this controller card to operate high density floppy disk drives in an XT system. Feature F004 supports four floppy disk drives and includes an optional 37-pin control, data and power connector, an optional 4-pin power connector and a ROM BIOS that will enable your system to recognize floppy disk drives that may not be supported by your AT system ROM BIOS. The optional ROM BIOS will also allow this controller card to operate high density floppy disk drives in an XT system. -- Prof. L. Piacenza - Chemistry Department - University of Transkei Internet: [email protected] (preferred). Tel. 27-471-3022384 Internet: [email protected] From [email protected] Mon Apr 5 12:14:06 1993 Received: from transfer.stratus.com by ponder (5.61/1.36) id AA29202; Mon, 5 Apr 93 12:14:03 -0500 Received: from necis.UUCP by transfer.stratus.com (4.1/3.12-jjm) id AA22183; Mon, 5 Apr 93 13:12:04 EDT Received: from mydual by necis.necis.ma.nec.com id aa21760; 5 Apr 93 12:50 EDT Received: by mydual.UUCP (5.58/smail2.5/09-28-87) id AA18009; Mon, 5 Apr 93 13:24:23 EST Date: Mon, 5 Apr 93 13:24:23 EST From: "Kirtland H. Olson" <[email protected]> Message-Id: <[email protected]> To: drice@ponder Subject: Re: Drive/Controller Compatibility Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware In-Reply-To: <drice.733866833@ponder> Organization: The Harvard Group, 01451-0667 Reply-To: necis!olson%[email protected] Cc: Status: OR Suggest you move jumper on drive rightward one position. Regards, --Kirt
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This doesn't sound right to me. Don't Quadras use the 53C96? If so, the Mac has nothing to do with the SCSI timing. That's all handled by the chip. About the only the timing could be wrong is if Apple programs the clock registers wrong on the 96. That, however, should only really hurt synchronous transfer, which is not used by the Mac SCSI Manager. Furthermore, disabling blind writes should be meaningless on a Quadra. On Macs that used the 5380, which is a much lower level SCSI chip, the Mac was responsible for the handshake of each byte transferred. Blind mode affected how the Mac handled that handshake. On the 5396, the handshake is entirely handled by the chip.
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I have a friend who has a very pronounced slouch of his upper back. He always walks and sits this way so I have concluded that he is hunchback. Is this a genetic disorder, or is it something that people can correct. i.e. is it just bad posture that can be changed with a bit of will power?
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: I think Dean got hit by a pitched ball the other night... he got pinch hit for : and didn't play against Baltimore tonight... whats up with that? Is he hurt? : Please tell me he's not... He evidentally got hit in the elbow by a Fernando pitch. His arm swelled from the elbow to the wrist (or something like that). They took X-rays of the arm and there is nothing damaged. He missed the last game with the Orioles, but he is suppose to be ready for the next game. Hope this helps.
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No problem, no offence taken ... It is sad, just as a lover of the sport, that this team can be in the metro New York area for over a decade and still exist as just a non-entity ... We're getting the Sabres-Bruins as the replacement game (and probably so are you) while the Devils-Penguins game is played on SCNY and the Islanders-Caps are the overflow game on the SCA (SCNY Plus). If the Sabres-Bruins ends early then we'll go to the Devils-Penguins game (assuming that ESPN follows their previous patterns; we got the last minute of the Islanders-Rangers and all of the overtime two weeks ago). ESPN's coverage started last night, by accident, but as one or more other writers have pointed out, they could've gone to wild hog wrestling for the evening instead ... gld
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Also, Alomar got a FAR greater boost from his home park than Baerga did from his. And "six or seven home runs"? Hmm. So, if you wanted to pick a second baseman to play in Toronto, you'd take Alomar. Anywhere else, and you'd probably take Baerga. Mike
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Wrong on both accounts. No one is a "rioter" until they participate in a "riot", which is unlikely to happen, now. Most of the *people* in L.A. are likely to have gotten up early to listen to the court announcement. Sorry to disappoint you, but this seems unlikely. I don't think he was told. However, his statement was still appropriate. Jury duty is a solemn duty to be taken seriously. It is not meant to be a source of pride or instant fame. Well, the many *people* who got up early to go to the court to hear the verdict found that justice was served. Given your dire and cynical predictions, I imagine that it is you who will be surprised. :-)
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Pens-6 NJ Devils-6 FIRST PERIOD: SCORING: 1, Pittsburgh, Daniels(Needham, Tippett)4:14. 2, NJ Devils, C. Lemieux(Semak, Driver)10:19. 3, Pittsburgh, Stevens (Tocchet, Murphy)12:40ppg. 4, NJ Devils, Zelepukin(Driver, Niedermayer) 17:26. PENALTIES: PGH, Stevens(roughing)1:30. NJD, Pellerin-double minor(cross-checking)1:30. NJD, Zelepukin(tripping)7:21. NJD, Stasny(holding)11:15. PGH, Taglianetti(roughing)13:51. NJD, Lemieux (roughing)13:51. PGH, Jagr(tripping)15:23. SECOND PERIOD: SCORING: 5, Pittsburgh, Lemieux(Murphy, Tocchet)1:42. 6, NJ Devils, Semak(Lemieux, Zelepukin)2:27. 7, Pittsburgh, McEachern (Jagr, Barrasso)4:24. 8, NJD, Stevens(Guerin, Pellerin)5:45. 9, Pittsburgh, Lemieux(unassisted)12:40shg. 10, NJ Devils, Richer (Nicholls)15:53. 11, NJ Devils, Lemieux(Zelepukin)17:40. PENALTIES: PGH, Stevens(roughing)3:06. NJD, McKay(roughing)3:06. PGH, Mullen (hooking)10:42. PGH, Tocchet(roughing)12:06. NJD, Stevens(slashing) 12:06. NJD, Lemieux(unsportsmanlike conduct)12:40. PGH, U. Samuelsson(cross checking)20:00. PGH, Barrasso-double minor(spearing) served by McEachern, 20:00. NJD, Holik(cross checking)20:00. NJD, Lemieux(roughing)20:00. THIRD PERIOD: SCORING: 12, Pittsburgh, Mullen(Jagr, Lemieux)18:54. PENALTIES: NJD, Daneyko(interference)3:37. PGH, Stevens(roughing) 9:18. NJD, Holik(roughing)9:18. PGH, match penalty-game misconduct,9:50. NJD, Zelepukin(tripping)12:01. PGH, Stevens(roughing)18:41. NJD, Daneyko(roughing)18:41. OVERTIME: SCORING: No scoring. PENALTIES: No penalties. SHOTS ON GOAL: Pittsburgh: 9-11-8-2=30 NJ Devils: 12-15-9-3=39 GOALIES: Barrasso(39 shots, 33 saves. 43-14-5) Billington(30 shots, 24 saves) REF: Devorski Linesmen: Gauthier, Vines
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Let's see if I have this straight. A law is created that says "you can not have a automatic weapon" and therefore it's ok for the government to use any level of force to enforce that law. Doesn't matter if the entire population of the planet is destroyed as long as that law is obeyed.
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Quoting Jeffrey J. Nucciarone's ([email protected]) article <[email protected]> of 04-06-93, in pertinent part: JJ> I am considering buying a used '90 Taurus SHO. The car in JJ> question has 37k miles. I took it for a test drive the other day JJ> and a few questions came up. JJ> JJ> . . . JJ> Second, is there anything I should specifically look for in an JJ> SHO of this vintage? Anything I should specifically ask abt? JJ> (Brakes, cluthch, etc.) I noticed on the drive the clutch engagemen JJ> point seemed a little high; since all my other cars are auto-tragics JJ> I'm not sure abt this point. I had my foot firmly planted on the JJ> brake when I started it up. There was a bit of a pop in the pedal JJ> soon after the engine started. This also occured on a few T-bird SC' JJ> I test drove. Was this the ABS self test? Brake rotors and the clutch are the main things. There has been a clutch replacement program; you might check to see if the car is still eligible, as it is a change well worth making. You can also swap the cruddy cable shifter for the newer rod shifter, also a change worth making, but that'll cost you some $$. My brakes usually do one wibble-wobble on startup, so that is probably normal. Didn't know they had a self-test, that's interesting. What kind of tires does the car have on it?
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Well, I've said that when an innocent person has been executed, this is objectively a murder. However, who is at blame is another question. It seems that the entire society that sanctions any sorts of executions-- realizing the risks--is to blame. Yes, but there is also a probablity that you will kill someone doing any raondom activity. Presumably, you had not isolated yourself totally from the rest of society because of this. And I argue that our law system is a similar risk. Perhaps an innocent person will be punished someday, but we work to prevent this. In fact, many criminals go free as a result of our trying to prevent punishment of innocents. But, such accidents are to be totally expected, given the numner of vehicals on the road. Again, the blame is on society. Yes, but the state is not at fault in such a case. The state can only do so much to prevent false witnesses. Okay, so this is what you call murder. But, the question is whether or not all such "murders" are wrong. Are you saying that all taking of human life is wrong, no matter what the circumstances? But, this is basically how it works. Society accepts the risk that an innocent person will be murdered by execution. And, every member of society shares this blame. And, most people's definitions of murder include some sort of malicious intent, which is not involved in an execution, is it? Murder violates the golden rule. Executions do not, because by allowing it at all, society implicitly accepts the consequences no matter who the innocent victim is. Reading the minds of the jury would certainly tell whether or not a conviction was moral or not. But, in an objective system, only the absolute truth matters, and the jury system is one method to approximate such a truth. That is, twelve members must be convinced of a truth. But then, if we read the minds of these people, we would know that the conviction was unfair. Yes, while we could objectively determine the difference (if we knew all possible information), we can't always determine the difference in our flawed system. I think that our system is almost as good as possible, but it still isn't objectively perfect. You see, it doesn't matter if we *know* it is fair or not. Objectively, it is either fair or it is not. But what we know has no effect on an objective system. Why are you so sure? Why is *your* reality important? But, we can assume that the system is fairly decent, at least most likely. And, you realize that the correctness of our system says nothing about a totally ideal and objective system. Well, we can have an ideal system, but the working system can not be ideal. We can only hope to create a system that is as close an approximation to the ideal system as possible. Yes, we all bear the responsibility. Most people seem willing to do this. We must realize the consequences of all our actions. Why do you keep separating the justice system from the pack? I don't think our country has an objective system, but I think such an objective system can exist, in theory. Without omniscience, an objective system is not possible in practice.
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I am glad and proud to announce the new mailing-list for the PD Motif C++ bindings. I got over 40 replies in about one week of people interested in such a list, and the software has now been properly installed, so the list is now up and running. For those interested in joining, please send e-mail to that extend to '[email protected]' or '[email protected]'. The blurb everyone who joins gets follows, as well as the original announcement for where Motif++ can be obtained. Enjoy! 8< - 8< - Welcome to the Motif++ Mailing List! The Motif++ mailing list is a mailing list dedicated to Motif++, the PD C++ wrapper library for Motif, where people can ask questions about Motif++, swap stories, and give new ideas about new directions and improvements for the bindings. All requests of an administrative nature, like subscription, removal, etc. should be directed to [email protected] All e-mail sent to [email protected] will be sent to the entire list, so please make sure when using 'vacation' type programs that will reply to messages automatically, that the address for the mailing-list is excluded from auto-replies. Enjoy! Ronald van Loon | In theory, there is no difference ([email protected]) | between theory and practice. 3DCV Group, Utrecht | The Netherlands | In practice however, there is. 8< - 8< - Hello Motif World, over the past half year there have been a lot of relatively minor changes to the Motif++ bindings. Imake support has been improved, a few defaults have been changed, and a lot of other small things have been added. This is basically a release which drops the 'gamma' status. Next release will incorporate some improvements by Stefan Schwarz, and possibly will support X11R5 and Motif 1.2.x. Note to all of those who keep copies of the archive: please retrieve this distribution (during off-peak hours), and delete all previous copies. Here is the original ANNOUNCEMENT: HISTORY The University of Lowell, supported by a grant of the Open Software Foundation, has developed a wrapper-library, that encapsulates Motif widgets in C++ classes. All resources of these Widgets can now be set through member-functions, while objects can be used in callback-functions. The library was made available for free or nominal cost for anonymous ftp at 129.63.1.1. However, the library contained a large number of bugs and oversights, and only worked under X11R3. Due to lack of subsequent fundings, the bindings are no longer actively supported by the University of Lowell. I, Ronald van Loon, at a certain point last year, have taken the Lowell bindings, fixing the bugs I came across, adding missing memberfunctions, and enhancing functionality and made the bug-fixed library available for the general public for anonymous ftp (made possible by Rick Murphy at DEC). NEW RELEASE I am now pleased to announce a new and updated release of the Motif++ bindings. This release offers: - Full Motif1.1 and X11R4 support - Support for Xbae widgetset - Two additional widgets, written by myself, that can be used to indicate progress in an application. - Imake support. NB: this release relies heavily on the existence of imake and its config files on your site. I have tried to provide the bindings with a standard Makefile, tweakable for those unfortunates without imake. I have not severely tested the standard Makefile though. Contact me if you have problems. The reason for calling this a gamma release lies in the fact that I do not have a multitude of platforms to test the Imake-files on. - Lots of testfiles (even somewhat useful programs) - An article I wrote on the usage of Motif, X and C++, previously posted on Usenet. WHERE TO GET THE NEW MOTIF BINDINGS Ftp: Anonymous ftp at decuac.dec.com (192.5.214.1), directory /pub/X11. Note: Please be patient as the network link is quite slow. Please do not FTP large files during working hours. Also note that there is also a motif++.31.jan.92.tar.Z file at this site; this is an old version of the bindings. E-mail: Those who don't have ftp can send me e-mail, and I will send the bindings by e-mail. REQUEST Those who use the bindings and find bugs, or see room for improvement, please contact me, and I will try to incorporate them in a future release (in case of bugs, a bug-fix of course ;-). MORE INFORMATION Contact me at "[email protected]". If you are desperate, then you can call me at +31 30 506711 (that is Utrecht, the Netherlands; those within the Netherlands call 030-506711). Enjoy!
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This has to be a setup. Lookit--same site as Arnie Skurow. Later,
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From article <[email protected]>, by [email protected]: According to my ColoRIX manual .SCF files are 640x480x256 You may try VPIC, I think it handles the 256 color RIX files OK..
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Please subscribe me to this mailing list
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Do you mean the icons _of_ the program groups, or the icons of the individual programs _in_ the program groups? I assume you mean the latter, and the answer is: sure you can. Just click once (not double) on the application icon, then Alt-F P (File | Properties). Click on the Change Icon box and tell it the icon filename. Or use the Browse sub-selection. I use Alt-Tab. Hold the Alt key and repeatedly press Tab until you see Program Mangler up. Then release the Alt key.
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LEWB>> Lets add to those percentages 13-15% for the Orphaic docterians brought LEWB>>to the group by Paul/Saul who was a high ranking initiate. On the LEWB>>development of Orphaic Mysteries, see Jane Harrisons .Prolegomena to the LEWB>>study of Greek religion. Cambridge U Press 1922. and you can easly draw LEWB>>your own conclusions. josh> perhaps you can quote just a bit of her argument?
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Well said, Michael! The Catholic traditon has a list of behaviours called the Spiritual Works of Mercy: admonish the sinner instruct the ignorant counsel the doubtful comfort the sorrowful bear wrongs patiently forgive all injury pray for the living and the dead (yes, I know there is some controversy on this and I don't want to argue about it.) These are all things that have a direct application to usenet. People ask questions and express doubts. Some are in need of comfort or prayers. Imagine what would happen to flame wars if we bore wrongs patiently and forgave injuries. I would add that it is probably more appropriate to do any admonishing by private email than publicly.
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And one of my profs is the chief engineer for the project (Dr. Ron Humble, Univ. Colorado at Colorado Springs). I love the idea of an inflatable 1-mile long sign.... It will be a really neat thing to see it explode when a bolt (or even better, a Westford Needle!) comes crashing into it at 10 clicks a sec. <BOOM!> Whooooooooshhhhhh...... <sputter, sputter> <okay, PRETEND it would make a sound!> I hear <insert favorite rumor here> that it will supposedly coincide with the Atlanta Olympics.
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The following is available in some FTP archive somewhere, I insert my comments liberally throughout this demonic memo of Big Brotherdom: Look! This is clearly the first step toward outlawing our own screw thread specifications. If this madness isn't fought, tooth and nail, every step of the way, it'll be a crime to use screw threads other than those our Fearless Leaders so *graciously* define for us. Rubbish, I say! ANSI standard screw threads will have subtle weaknesses, allowing their agents to disassemble our automobiles more easily, causing our mufflers to fall off at inoppurtune moments. Hah! "trust us" See??! See? This is the first step. It is clear we must band together, write your congressman! Use Pretty Good Screw Threads, not this devil-inspired ANSI trash. Protect your constitutional right to use whatever screw thread you desire. Guerilla Screw Thread Activism must become the order of the day. Boycott GM, and build your own car, using screws from STZ Screw Thread Associates. Screw you, Bill Clinton! You and your totalitarianist thugs! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] | finger for PGST personal screw thread pitch, or Screw Threads | see the screw thread servers. must be freed! |
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There is a rite like this described in Joseph Campbell's _Occidental_Mythology_. He also described levels of initiation, I think 6? I don't know where Campbell got his info, but I remember thinking he was being a little eclectic. Quite a bit. If you haven't read Campbell, give him a try.
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* FOR SALE * From Ann Arbor, Michigan 1988 Kawasaki EX-500 6682 miles Cherry Red Excellent condition Asking $2300
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I don't think Primeau is necessarily a bad pick...I'm was just trying to locate the beginning of Murray's decisions...he slowness in trading Carson has delayed Primeau's development...and you have to wait longer for big players often...and Primeau can be a very good player without being a point-a-game-player, especially on a team that has Yzerman and Fedorov...if Primeau becomes Joel Otto, and gets 20 goals a season, and plays mean...it will have been an extremely good pick.
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Could someone please do one of the following: 1. Point to an init that allows me to turn off power management on my Duo 210. 1. Write an init that would allow me to turn off ALL power management on Duo 210. 2. Point me to documentation on power management so that I can write such an init. 3. Explain to me why such an init is totally or partially impossible. Ideally, of course, I would like to be able to turn in on and off on the fly. Surely such an init would be very helpful to Powerbook owners who want to do MIDI... I cannot imagine why it is not possible to do, unless it requires Apple to divluge some secret. And if that is the case, the surely APPLE could write the init. (Unless Apple brings out new models so fast these days that even THEY don't know how they work).
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And why they are considering using WinBench as a test, they may want to read everything Steve Gibson has said on the subject in his InfoWorld column the past couple of month. In short, virtually every board manufacturer cheats on the test by writing things in the driver that is there only to make the board appear faster on the WinBench suite. So the WinBench score has no bearing in reality to how cards stack up on real world tasks. In the last PC-Magazine they benchmarked some of the new accelerators, and admitted that many of them 'cheated' on WinBench. Interestingly, they 'allowed' one type of cheating behaviour (caching for bitblt operations, no matter how unreal), yet did not allow a couple of other types of cheating behaviour that some of the cards used. At least one card was eliminated from the "Editor's Choice" because of cheating on the benchmark.
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Ah yes. California. Did the San Francisco Bay area media report that Joe Montana is rumoured to be the leading candidate to replace fired San Jose Sharks coach George Kingston? Apparently Montana is not only coveted for his winning attitude, but as a playing coach he will be expected to quarterback the powerplay. Good thing those walls are so soft, eh Rollie? --
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In fact, you can all direct your ire at the proper target by ingoring NASA altogether. The rocket is a commercial launch vechicle - a Conestoga flying a COMET payload. NASA is simply the primary customer. I believe SDIO has a small payload as well. The advertising space was sold by the owners of the rocket, who can do whatever they darn well please with it. In addition, these anonymous "observers" had no reason to be startled. The deal made Space News at least twice. I think its only fair to find that out before everyone starts having a hissy fit. The fact that they bothered to use the conditional tense suggests that it has not yet been approved.
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When you have no principles, you can't admit that someone else might, and everyone who acts differently from what you expect can only be a nutcase. -- Dave Feustel N9MYI <[email protected]>
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