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That sums up the last decade. | kotakuinaction |
There are no "facts" about homosexuality in ancient Greece, the evidence on that period is rather scant and there's too little to go on to make a factual conclusion about a nation with multiple city states that lasted for centuries before Roman conquest. So much of historical "fact" is just narratives built around evidences that constantly change due to new evidence being discovered. | kotakuinaction |
I'd bet on mass reporting personally, but yeah something fucky seems afoot with youtube at the moment. Clownfish TV has randomly [had the comments turned off by Youtube]( on one of it's recent videos that's just about Comcast considering selling Disney its stake in Hulu. So not something you'd expect Youtube to be stepping in to turn off the comments for it. | kotakuinaction |
If you're curious: here's the one on [Cleopatra]( and then the other about [Ancient Greece]( | kotakuinaction |
So let me rephrase your comment a little, because I don't think you know how it actually sounded. | kotakuinaction |
>The truth is a very stupid and weird hill to die on if that's the case. | kotakuinaction |
Yeah... | kotakuinaction |
And just before you make a fool of yourself, they called it a documentary, not a series (loosely) based on historical facts, a documentary. So they are saying their portrayal of Cleopatra is accurate. | kotakuinaction |
And Cleopatra VII is descendant from a Macedonian (basically greek) dynasty so inbreed the Habsburgs would kneel to them out of sheer amazement. | kotakuinaction |
These people are abso convinced that Egyptians = Black and since Cleopatra was a Queen in Egypt she was Egyptian and therefore black. | kotakuinaction |
Nevermind that Egyptians are genetically closest to Turks and she was Macedonian, they will absolutely not hear anything. | kotakuinaction |
They also cling to Queen Catherine being black because ONE relative of hers fifteen generations removed was POSSIBLY a Moor, not caring that it wasn't confirmed she was a Moor and that Moor was a religious group that included people from Portugal, Spain and Iberia. No actual historian buys her being black for a second but that ancestor is justification to cast a full on black woman as her lily white ass. | kotakuinaction |
Yes, Shadiversity. | kotakuinaction |
They're not the same? | kotakuinaction |
He didn’t spread hate speech and lies. If you watch his content, he speaks on topics from an educated and well read perspective, citing literary and archaeological evidence to support his theses. I personally don’t agree with all of his theses and claims, but that’s the nature of a academia and is a crucial part of having a good faith discussion/debate on historical topics. | kotakuinaction |
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Reminds me of Leisure Suit Larry. | kotakuinaction |
Guys help I cant choose between SusSex and Cum Lewde | kotakuinaction |
Whats wrong with that? He educates and entertains hundreds of thousands if not millions, at his own terms. | kotakuinaction |
>he is making YouTube video | kotakuinaction |
Yes, high quality and well researched Youtube videos that reach millions of people. What's wrong with that? | kotakuinaction |
Look at this boomer pretending Youtubers don't make bank and equating it to 'not a real job'. | kotakuinaction |
Youtube is INCREDIBLY lucrative if you can reach this level of success. | kotakuinaction |
Whats your argument here? | kotakuinaction |
That braindead 'historian' that claimed the Roman Empire never existed. | kotakuinaction |
>Shad | kotakuinaction |
Lol, imagine what kind of brain damage you need to have to want to cancel Shad, probably the most inoffensive human ever, who talks about swords and medieval cuisine. | kotakuinaction |
At the end of the day, regardless of your political leanings, archeology and history just present facts and don't care about your personal beliefs. However, it must be stated that some beliefs are objectively wrong, and sometimes things are black and white (no pun intended). | kotakuinaction |
Believing that Jesus was a long brown-haired Aryan looking guy with blue eyes and light skin is objectively wrong. Believing that the Egyptians were predominantly sub-Saharan African is wrong; even these "black Egyptians" are Cushitic peoples who are ethnically and culturally distinct from West African Niger-Congo speaking groups (whom much of the African diaspora descend from). | kotakuinaction |
Cleopatra literally did not give a shit about race relations, gay marriage, or gun control, because she lived thousands of years ago. | kotakuinaction |
What are woke narratives? You get that pretty much all of ancient history is narratives built around the little evidence we have right? History changes everyday when new things are uncovered, you can't just ignore new evidence that sheds more light on the past by calling it woke. | kotakuinaction |
[Let me just leave this here]( | kotakuinaction |
We'll have to start circulating tapes again... over torrent I guess. | kotakuinaction |
Then why are the masses fully rejecting it? | kotakuinaction |
If they'd won their propaganda wouldn't be necessary | kotakuinaction |
They haven't won. The pendulum is slowly starting to swing back. Keep fighting, do not let them win because admitting defeat serves no one. | kotakuinaction |
I just read the badhistory thread and I'm with Metatron 100%. They are criticizing him for focusing too much on facts and the truth whereas they think history should be about narratives and political advocacy. | kotakuinaction |
Do you agree with the latter perspective? | kotakuinaction |
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You have to admit, mine is catchier because it rhymes. But seriously, it seems like anything woke touches gets money, that’s all I’m saying. | kotakuinaction |
My favorite is Dan Carlin Hardcore History. His way of storytelling is absolutely gripping and he always acknowledges missing gaps in historical knowledge and the lack of objectivity of the sources and historians. | kotakuinaction |
Thanks! Only one I know from these is Lindybeige. I would recommend Whatifalthist, which is a channel about what could have been different in history, combined with a lot of anthropological and sociological knowledge. A good video to get to know the channel is 'How Family Structure Drives ideology'. | kotakuinaction |
you might like ***thehistorysquad.*** | kotakuinaction |
many of his videos are done with painted models. | kotakuinaction |
There’s also King & Generals. He puts out a lot of info on historical battles, but he does have an annoying voice. He also did videos on the recent battles in Ukraine, but I ignore those. It’s hard to say if the info is true or not based on reports going out between the two countries. | kotakuinaction |
TikHistory is best history. | kotakuinaction |
Another good one if you are into naval history is Drachinifel. He mostly breaks down naval battles and campaigns (mostly Age of Sail up to WW2), gives reviews of different warship classes from their actual architectural nature instead of just their stats (which leads to actually looking into what made ships good instead of just "bigger gun"), and has on occasion run war games of alternative historical events, such as TF 34 fighting the Japanese at Samar instead of Taffy 3, or the last ride of the High Seas Fleet (spoiler: an absolute bloodbath, and probably wise they mutinied instead of fight it). | kotakuinaction |
Dude I haven't heard the name Skallagrim in years | kotakuinaction |
Shad is pretty shit, Lindybeige mainly speculates and gets a lot wrong. Scholagladiatoria is pretty good though. | kotakuinaction |
Shadiversity is safe to ignore on any medieval content. He's had no education, no experience, and his content contains frequent inaccuracies. | kotakuinaction |
Not to forget, he's a raging bigot who got upset that Peach in the Mario movie wore pants. | kotakuinaction |
Yeah well, I probably would have subscribed to his channel if I knew of it's existence to begin with | kotakuinaction |
Can you imagine being a literal fascist and being afraid of "the others" for being fascists? Lets see what tactics EVERY murdering dictator has used in the past. Create an ethereal enemy to blame all problems on *CHECK*, surveil and silence all "problematic" rhetoric *CHECK*. Helloooo 1930's Germany, hello 1978 Cambodia, hello 1940's China. Whats the best part you ask? Most of these people are educated in some form or another but are too stupid to just look back through history at the many MANY trends of this happening. | kotakuinaction |
AOC: "Deplatforming works!" | kotakuinaction |
Tucker: "Hold my beer." | kotakuinaction |
She wasn’t exactly white, but she most definitely was absolutely not black, the most accurate information states that she was a mix of Macedonian and had some Iranian, but not a single but of sub Saharan African/black in her at all | kotakuinaction |
Based | kotakuinaction |
Maoists and Soviets are literally some of the most homophobic communities. | kotakuinaction |
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Post removed following the enforcement change that you can read about [here]( | kotakuinaction |
This is not a formal warning. | kotakuinaction |
Yeah there’s that too, not to mention two way consent (affirmative consent) was not really a established rule long ago… | kotakuinaction |
based | kotakuinaction |
Thanks for the links man | kotakuinaction |
Yeah, my comment was aimed more at wokesters who would have an issue with a video like that and not him, I edited it so it should be clearer now. | kotakuinaction |
>they called it a documentary, not a series (loosely) based on historical facts, a documentary. So they are saying their portrayal of Cleopatra is accurate. | kotakuinaction |
I think that's where they fucked up, had they said it's just fiction like "Bridgerton" or that show with a black Anne Boleyn then they could brush it off as "We're not saying she was black, okaaaay? Just our version" and people could dismiss it as Jada Pinkett Smith's fanfiction, I mean, it is, but they're trying to pass it off as a documentary and that's where all the backlash is coming from. So, if that video is one of the reasons why his channel was demonetized, defending "black Cleopatra" is a stupid and weird hill to die on because the fact that it got so much backlash and it's probably *that* bad that even woke critics can't give it a passing score means they don't really gain much by defending it. | kotakuinaction |
>Cleopatra VII | kotakuinaction |
Better than Cleo Takes Manhattan but not as good as Cleopatra part 3. | kotakuinaction |
And even if that ancestor was, it was too long ago to even be relevant physically or even genetically. But I'm convinced "Bridgerton" is just a show for people who feel bad about liking that kind of romances because they're too "white", Netflix put some ads on my city where the character writes letters to Queen Maxima of The Netherlands (Since she's from here) and it's the cringiest shit I've seen. | kotakuinaction |
Although in their defense, they do say it's a "Bridgerton" spin-off. | kotakuinaction |
Because of the PS2 game? One of my proudest completions. | kotakuinaction |
Except they're not high-quality or well researched. He's a known hack who's spread wrong information many times. Look up some of the other threads about him and other popular YT "historians" on r/badhistory | kotakuinaction |
Edit: I forgot what corner of the internet this is. You guys need to get out of your "woke" and "leftist" nonsense bubble and learn to engage critically. None of the people who replied to my comment even tried to counter my point in good faith. | kotakuinaction |
99.99999% YouTubers don’t, and if they do it’s not due to their work or content but luck and algorithm. You are better off with a regular job if money is what you are after. | kotakuinaction |
And he put in his time. Hes gone years needing a primary job before he blew up on youtube. | kotakuinaction |
His argument summary: | kotakuinaction |
"Popular person bad!" | kotakuinaction |
Wait what? | kotakuinaction |
I looked into her a bit and oh my god, not only is she stupid, she is also generally hatable as fuck. Her whole demeanor unearthed some really primal violent urges in me that I got a bit scared off myself. | kotakuinaction |
Edit: Also she is > 40. Watch her videos and really, really ponder the fact that she is 40. Try not dying of cringe. | kotakuinaction |
That's one of'em. | kotakuinaction |
He has multiple YouTube channels, in particular one called Knights Watch where he covers politics, mainly in the context of pop culture and entertainment. He's a religious (Mormon) conservative so of course goes against the grain. The videos are hours long, rambling, and unscripted though so they're pretty unwatchable even when he's right. | kotakuinaction |
> Jesus was a long brown-haired Aryan looking guy with blue eyes and light skin is objectively wrong | kotakuinaction |
Ramses II was a fair-skinned ginger. While it's less probable that Jesus had blue eyes and light skin, just based on what we know of the ancients, it is not impossible, just less probable. | kotakuinaction |
> Niger | kotakuinaction |
heh | kotakuinaction |
Jesus being white is just because artists at the time painting whatever models they had access to and it was Europe. It's not even a European thing either, artists from all around the world have depicted Jesus as looking like them. You can find art of Ethiopian Jesus, Korean Jesus, Indian Jesus, Navajo Jesus, Maori Jesus. A lot of people don't care because it's symbolic of how Jesus is supposed to be the savior of everyone. | kotakuinaction |
>At the end of the day, regardless of your political leanings, archeology and history just present facts and don't care about your personal beliefs. | kotakuinaction |
No the past is objective, history and archeology are windows into that past and they are not objective. The data they collect may be objective but the narratives built around that data isn't, it's why history constantly changes when new evidence arises, it's why there are several different interpretations of the same datasets that historians debate over. | kotakuinaction |
Also Cleopatra must have given a shit about race relations given it was a massive aspect of her family. The family that refused to mix with the people or even learn Egyptian and still considered themselves Greek. | kotakuinaction |
Woke narrative would be | kotakuinaction |
Greece was like totally really gay | kotakuinaction |
Slay Queen Shield Maiden nonsense | kotakuinaction |
This female skeleton from 1000 years ago was clearly non binary because we found a sword. | kotakuinaction |
Rejecting what? Cleopatra? Let me answer your question with a question "Why are this still being made?" | kotakuinaction |
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