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Re: Ice Age Columbus: Who Were the First Americans and other such documentaries
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Moreover, we have discovered Caucasian mummies from 4 to 5 thousand years ago in Asia. I have always believed that the Chinese had invented a few things, however, their inventive contribution was somewhat overstated. I believe that there the Caucasians initiated contact with them much earlier than the 'textbooks' have told us, and that we did indeed give them much of the technological innovations which they have attributed to themselves. However, i'm looking for more evidence we did in fact give them more than we have been credit for. Does anyone here have access to such evidence or books showing this? It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Formula1 There is a lot about this topic in this thread... https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t503937/ They have blond, brown and red hair, prominent noses and deep- set eyes. Some are nearly six feet tall. Buried along with them were textiles woven in plaid patterns strikingly similar to those of ancient European fabrics. Tests on one mummy linked it to a European genetic group This caused a clamor in scientific circles. Conventional wisdom has long been that Western people didn't arrive in China until the establishment of the Silk Road, about 2,000 years ago. Chinese scholars have claimed, and Western scholars have agreed, that Chinese culture evolved in isolation, apart from the influence of Europe The Caucasian mummies of the Takla Makan proved otherwise, indicating that Europeans forged eastward thousands of years before anyone thought and built a thriving agricultural society in what's now China's Xinjiang Province The people native to this area of central Asia are a Turkic ethnic group called Uighurs (WE-gurs). They trace their ties to the region back to around 800 A.D., when their Turkic ancestors moved there and, anthropologists believe, mixed with a people known as the Tocharians. The Tocharians, who were Buddhists, are thought to have built and ruled a string of cities along the central Asian stretch of the Silk Road. Study of Tocharian manuscripts has revealed that they used a language closely related to Celtic and Germanic tongues; their paintings reveal them to have been a fair-haired, blue-eyed people. These distinctive characteristics have caused many scholars to link them with the mummy people, who predated them. Ancient artworks also helped strengthen the link between the mummy people and the later Tocharians. At the top of a sheer cliff, deep in a complex of caves filled with Tocharian script, Mair found ancient paintings of fair-haired, blue-eyed people that closely resemble the mummies. Altogether, the findings from the expedition indicate that what's now western China was in fact occupied by non-ethnically Chinese people well before the Silk Road was established, and that those people later built cities along the trade route - cities that fostered much of the important cultural exchange between East and West. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ist_Monks.jpeg A fresco of two Buddhist monks from the Bezeklik grottoes in China's Tarim Basin in the Xinjiang region. The White man on the left is thought to be a Tocharian, one of the descendants of the White Tarim mummies. If true, it matters little, because the Chinese obviously came up with much of their own culture. If they borrowed some useful techniques or technologies, they wouldn't be the first to do so - and of course, an exchange could have gone both ways, as it has in more historic times. You may be interested in this documentary program....:) YouTube - Tocharians- The Aryan Civilization of the Tarim Basin Part1 YouTube - Tocharians- The Aryan Civilization of the Tarim Basin Part2 YouTube - Tocharians- The Aryan Civilization of the Tarim Basin Part3 YouTube - Tocharians- The Aryan Civilization of the Tarim Basin Part4 YouTube - Tocharians- The Aryan Civilization of the Tarim Basin Part5 YouTube - Tocharians- The Aryan Civilization of the Tarim Basin Part6
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Re: My View As A Native American
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[quote=NativeAmerican12;5623800] I just recently stumbled upon this site while searching up research and history. I was shocked to see this. And so I thought I would post in this board. Of course. Why do you guys think that White people are the master race? I don't. We Natives were here just as long as you guys. You're no more native than we are. You originated from ASIA. You are racially Mongoloid. When we migrated from Russia to the Americas, You didn't migrate from Russia because there was no Russia back then. You migrated from Siberia and present day Mongolia, which is why you look like Mongolians. we managed to form great culture and hunting techniques. A great culture that was STONE AGE that involved running around in loin cloths in a perpetual state of warfare and running whole herds of buffalo off of cliffs. You guys did nothing with this land. When White man arrived it was a savage wilderness filled with loin cloth clad savages in a perpetual state of tribal warfare. We turned it into a great nation. We were happy. There was no disease, there was no war. :roflTake a history lesson moron. The indian tribes were constantly fighting with one another. :rolleyes: No war my ass. It was a shangri la utopia I'm sure. No disease , riiight the place was heaven on Earth, you had disease just not European/Old World originated diseases. Some would even say that the indians WERE a disease... But, on that dreadful year of 1492, the monster known as Christopher Columbus traveled to our fair land. We were here long before that. The Vikings were all over North America centures before Christopher Columbus sailed to our shores on accident thinking he was in India. What did he do when he got there? Enslaved our people and raped our women. Your savage ancestors raped many more White women than the other way around I can bet you that much. Indians went around raping, pillaging, scalping and robbing White people. They would go into White settlements take the babies by the ankles and smash their heads against the wall. Savages. We all of a sudden got diseases and we couldn't find a cure yet because we hadn't had a disease spread before. It was tragedy. Well it's over now. No use crying over spilled milk. He gave us the nicknames Indians as he thought he was in India, which proves that white man was an idiot. The Vikings never thought they were in India when they built those settlements up in Canada and left rune stone carvings all over the place. :) Leif Erikson knew where he was. The European culture starting spreading around the Americas. Then, the American colonies started to establish. We didn't mind, he had the rest of the land to hunt and raise tribes. The new people seemed to be okay with it. They even put the Proclamation Line up against the 13 Colonies so we don't get into a struggle. But later, since they wanted to expand, they broke that promise. They always try to trick us into giving them land and saying that everything was going to be alright. We always seem to gave in because we trusted these new people. As they expanded westward, they killed off most of our hunting game and even tried to get us to stop doing our silly dances and foolish traditions. None of us are in need of a history lesson. But you may be since you think Chris Columbus was the first White man in America when it was the Vikings and you think the indians had no war before White man arrived and it was paradise on Earth:rolleyes: When Andrew Jackson was President, he sent us to Reservation Camps, and for what? Because you guys would go around raping White women, scalping and killing White people including children, raiding our settlements and raping, looting, pillaging, robbing, killing and burning them to the ground. It's called self defense. If we were really so mean and evil why are YOU still here? We could have just exterminated every Amerindian in the entire New World if we had wanted to but no we didn't...you are still around because our ancestors were too nice to kill your ancestors. We could have killed every last one of you but chose not to. You can thank us later for our kindness, no need to do it right now Shi#ting Bull. We were here first, not you snobby Europeans! There is evidence that there may have been a small Caucasian presence in the Americas long long long before previously thought. Evidence like the Kennewick Man, check it out. Who cares if you savages were here first? White man came, saw and conquered those were the times. If the indians would have been advanced enough to build sea going vesels and found their way to the shores of Europe they would have tried to conquer it too, but would have failed. Boo hoo hoo you lost. Cry me a river Hiawatha. It wasn't until the 1980's that we got FULL rights. That shouldn't have happened. We inherited this land first and you new guys come along and ruin it for us. We fought, fair and square. And you lost, fair and square. No use crying about it now Cochise. Don't be a poor loser, you guys are making mega millions off of the casinos. If you guys think that the whites should rule the world, go ahead. I don't. But just remember, there WERE other races other than whites even in the Cavemen times, you know. That's nice. **Now let the flaming begin**[/ flamer :pquote]
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Re: um, do you really hate black people or what?
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[quote=Unregistered Black Girl;5744102] I am also a black teenager and before I actually took the time to read most of the replies in this post, I was horribly afraid of this website. When I first heard of this website, I saw it on a discovery channel documentary, They were talking about Stormfront on the Discovery channel?? That's great! We just love free MSM publicity:D Usually they won't mention SF because they don't want too many people to come here and find out they agree with us. which portrayed everyone on here to be very racist people who believed that black people did not even deserve to exist. Well of course they would.:rolleyes: I come from a family that has a mixture of all kinds of people. My godmother is white and my aunt is Asian. I also have a couple of hispanic cousins. Wow....how....progressive:o I refuse to play the slavery role because I also read in my history book that we were sold by our own. Yes you were. And Blacks are still enslaving other Blacks in Africa to this very day. But they act like White people are evil and are the only people to have ever owned slaves:rolleyes: All races have once used slaves, and people of all races have once been enslaved. The Irish used to be used as slave labor and indentured servants, they shipped thousands of Irish Catholics to the Caribbean to work as slaves just like Blacks. That's why they used to call the Irish White ni##ers. You don't hear the Irish sitting around bit##in' about it do ya? Most people who believe such horrible things about us have probably had a bad experience with a black person and before that experience, probably never really associated much with black people. I'm from the Detroit area, born and raised. Believe me, I have had plenty of experience with Black people... In conclusion i just want to say that maybe we all need to meet the right people, positive people of every race so that we will not have to feel a certain way about races based on experiences that we have had with ignorant people of that race. Based on my experiences, the majority of Blacks I have met are ignorant people. Based on my experiences I have deduced that the majority of Blacks are loud, rude, crude, vulgar, misogynistic, materialistic, and RACIST! Keep in mind, I was raised in and around Black majority cities like Detroit and Flint, MI. I'm no stranger to the Black race at all. p.s. i understand that it is not only white people that have prejudices against blacks. I am not strictly targeting the white race. I can comprehend the fact that there are many people who do not like us, but this is the only online community that I know of that seems to directly target black people I don't have any hatred towards anyone because they're Black. Just so happens that I haven't liked most of the Black people I have had the pleasure of knowing, oh sure alot of them are friendly and hospitable, but even they are usually loud and annoying to me. And now all of the young ones are lost to the gangsta/pimp culture:rolleyes: Sorry, I can't help it if the majority of Blacks I have met(which has been thousands)were unpleasant individuals who at the very least annoyed the living Hell out of me. And even if all Blacks were just the greatest people, and were all very law abiding and friendly and not loud, crude, rude, ignorant, arrogant, racist, possessive, materialistic, misogynistic etc... I still wouldn't want Blacks being integrated with Whites. They need to stay in their own neighborhoods and date and marry with their own kind. I would really like to know what the name of the program on the Discovery channel was that mentioned SF... I would like to write them a letter thanking them for the free publicity:D
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Re: um, do you really hate black people or what?
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[quote=cphil;5787022] I acknowledge that America has a huge illegal immigrant problem, good, you have eyes. what America needs is an effective way to slow or halt this problem short of killing them though. Why shouldn't criminals, and foreign invaders be killed? Step across the border, get a bullet in your cabeza. Sounds fair. We as inhabitants of this planet don't have the right to kill people for seeking a better life.[/ Actually, I have the right to do anything I want, so long as you can't stop me. But...why shouldn't we have the right to kill people(cockroaches in human form) who are destroying OUR way of life and our country? Step across that border, get shot on sight I say. I wish I wish I wish we could do it. Me and mine are more important to me than THEM and theirs. They are in search of a better life and in the process destroying ours. We could use a few of these along the border. http://resist.com/CARTOON%20GALLERY/...cs_image04.jpg
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Re: Why hate based on the color of one's skin
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Why? give valid reasons Why make the asinine assumption that we hate people for the colour of their skin? Give me a valid reason. Yep, I do hate people for the color of their skin, in the summer when all of my friends get a tan and start to turn brown I hate their guts and want them to die, but then when fall comes around and they lose their tan and become White again, well, then they are friends again:rolleyes::D
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Re: Question about RAP!
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I hate rap music! I detest it! I however was wondering something. When I was a Traditional Christian I played in a Christian Rock band to bring the message of Jesus to youth who were into rock music, which by the way, has lots of negative messages. What would you think of someone applying this logic to rap and hip hop? You gotta face the fact that LOTS of white kids are into rap and hip hop. What about pro white rap and/or hip hop to reach those kids? There was already a discussion about this on another thread check it out.... https://www.stormfront.org/forum/show...it+aint+wigger
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Re: Question about RAP!
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Since when did blacks earn the monopoly on beats and ryhmes? Whites were using rhyme in poetry a long time before any black even spoke the English language. As for beats, are you familier at all with Irish folk music? As for beats....are you familiar with Kraftwerk? The first rappers stole their beats from them. The break beat comes from Kraftwerk, they pioneered that stuff back in the 70s. Oh, and they're German. Europeans are the original beat makers. Rappers ripped off beats and techniques from European electronic musicians. This is discussed on this other thread too. https://www.stormfront.org/forum/show...it+aint+wigger Rapping can be delivered over a beat or without accompaniment. Stylistically, rap occupies a gray area among speech, prose, poetry, and song. Rap is derived from the griots (folk poets) of West Africa , and Jamaican -style toasting . It also has precedents in traditional Celtic music . Modern rap battles, for instance, bear a striking resemblance to the Limerick Game, a traditional Gaelic drinking game in which people compete for notoriety by making up insulting limericks about each other, the loser having to buy the next round of drinks. Likewise, puirt a beul , a form of Scottish mouth music was incorporated into Appalachian music and is an early ancestor of modern mouth percussion, or beatboxing . The influence of Scottish and Irish music on hip hop is not direct, since virtually all of the originators of hip hop culture were African American , but were transferred indirectly by way of American roots music they ripped off all of their beats from European electronic groups , particularly KRAFTWERK. Afrika Bambaataa’s Planet Rock (1982) was a major defining hit for hip hop and the birth of electro music. The song contains elements of Trans-Europe Express and Numbers. Legal action was pursued and won against Bambaataa for his strong use of these particular sounds and melodies without giving proper credit to the group. Since the lawsuit, proper credit is now given on the song’s writing credits. Numerous artists have continued to sample and pilfer various elements from Kraftwerk's catalog. The influence of Kraftwerk’s distinctive use of synthesizers, drum machine rhythms, and heavily effected vocals can also be heard on early Detroit techno records. Detroit techno artists Derrick May and Juan Atkins tried to replicate Kraftwerk’s sound on early techno records such as Cybotron’s Clear (1983), Model 500’s No UFOs (1985), and Derrick May’s Nude Photo (1986). Kraftwerk was also a strong influence in the genre of Chicago House Music. Keith Farley's (Farley Jackmaster Funk of the Hot Mix 5) recordings, Funkin With the Drums Again, pays homage to Kraftwerk's Home Computer and It 's More Fun to Compute, which are cult classics in Chicago's House music history. The GERMAN group Kraftwerk was making beats like this as early as 1970 , the rappers ripped off their beats and used them for hip hop music. THIEVES. As always..... Trans Europe Express - Kraftwerk http://search.playlist.com/tracks/kr...rope%20express The Robots - Kraftwerk http://search.playlist.com/tracks/kraftwerk%20robots Numbers - Kraftwerk http://search.playlist.com/tracks/kraftwerk%20numbers
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Re: What is black culture?
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Without blacks popular music in all of it's forms would be unrecognizable, I assure you that. And it would be much better too, I assure you that. Modern pop music sucks more than words could describe, simply because of too much dumbed down, tacky Black and Jewish influence. Without Whites, popular music in all of it's forms wouldn't even exist;) There's a word for the aesthetic we constructed and it's called cool, the look, the name, the sound, all our thing, and that goes for the phrases cool and our thing. Sorry bud, the word cool has been in the English dictionary for hundreds of years, it has also been used in an aesthetic sense for just as long. Some culture you have, bastardized, low class versions of White man's music and attempting to assign new slang meanings to old ENGLISH words;) Guess what, Whites started the word YO too, did you know that?:D I promise you've taken something from us Not this cowboy, partner ;) I don't even slam dunk when I play basketball, I'm a bit too short:(
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Re: What is black culture?
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Source? Just watch this old Western movie from the 1940s sometime and tell me how many times you hear those cowboys use the word yo.;) http://www.bluecorncomics.com/pics/yllwrbbn.jpg I thought it was pretty funny when I seen John Wayne ride up to another guy on his horse and stick out his hand and say yooo :rofl I also found it amusing when they were reading off roll-call and all of the cavalry upon hearing their names read would respond with a hearty, yo! :D The word yo was used by cowboys and cavalrymen in the Old West, believe it or not. Another seemingly unrelated version of the word yo was used by the Italian-Americans in large, east coast cities like Philadelphia and NYC as an interjection or as a synonym for hey and that is where the Blacks got it from. Blacks then popularized the word through it's constant use in rap songs by Black rappers from the east coast and the association between Black rappers and the word yo was really cemented by it's use in the all-rap MTV program YO! MTV Raps. :)
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Re: The media has brainwashed me
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Presenting myself as a conservative and regarding myself such, I have come under some criticism for failing to accept the ways of White Nationalism. Some of the criticism is quite good, actually, and some is not. Occasionally someone claims that the reason I'm not a nationalist, is because I've either been brainwashed by the media or that I have not really understood White Nationalism. These are not good criticism. These are pseudo-science, and every time they are used, one White Nationalist loses his credibility in my eyes. I'm actually considering ignoring anyone who use these arguments to dismiss my points (much like the Guidelines addendum just because of the color of their skin). Why should I consider these to be valid arguments? Why should we care? Yes, the media brainwashes people, do you understand what propaganda is? and how it works? Do you understand who controls the media and that they have an agenda? A war mongering, anti American, anti White, social Marxist aka liberal, multi CULT agenda. Do you understand the impact that the media, and television has on the way ordinary people think and act? The way they view the world around them? Half of America hates Muslims more than anything and are paranoid of them and probably haven't even hardly ever met one, because why? Television. Most Americans hate muslims and are gung ho to take every Muslim country to war because they are evil terrorists who want to destroy America, because the tv says so, but they don't see a problem with JEWS , nope not at all, even though they're the ones running our country into the ground, because the media never has a bad word to say about Jews or Israel, of course not. They wouldn't dare. We don't need you to be a White Nationalist, if you are that dumb to not see what is going on around you, or if you do not care, we don't need you, or want you. We don't need to scrape the bottom of the barrel, we need strong minded people, not sheep. Attention America, please step away from the television.... http://members.aol.com/ujlrf/images/brainwashed.jpg
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Re: White Christians supported Bush's and Reagan
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Do you really think Jews have control over the Republican party? Yes, the Republicans are the biggest Zionist warhawks there are. Or hadn't you noticed? What about Richard Nixons comments about how the Jews have to much control over the media Wasn't Nixon blackmailed out of office? And why do Jews usually vote Democrat overwhelmingly, Democrat...Republican.... they are siamese twins. We just laugh at all of you democrat/republican types around here, that is playground politics. we all know the Republicans represent the good old boy network that hates everyone including Jews :rolleyes: I would like you to meet the Chairman of the Republican Party http://www.washblade.com/2006/5-19/n...el%20LtGov.jpg just one of the good ol' boys....:rofl
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Re: Asian man
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[quote=Umbreon;5796938] Hello Stormfront members, Hi.:) A little background on me. I am 24, born and raised in the United States. My parents came here from Vietnam during the war. They came here because they felt they would have a better life here in America. They were right. Vietnam is a shi#hole. Most non White countries are. Pretty much every one of them I can think of except for Japan and South Korea. I am raised Catholic and 80% of my friends are White. I have no accent and I am a great driver lol. That's nice. I was wondering (sincerely) how Stormfront members feel about Asians? I feel they belong in Asia. Or would it be case to case? No, I believe they all belong in Asia. Each and every last one of them, and if they can't all fit because they breed like rabbits(which they do) and are packed in like sardines in a can(which they are) then the Asian governments should do the responsible thing and thin out their over population with some sort of sterilization chemicals introduced into the food and water supply, and one child policies, you know, something like that. Just TOO many people in China and India, now they have no room and they all want to come here and do the same thing to our country.:mad: I can understand what you are trying to prevent, the extinction of the White Race. Yah. Am I viewed as a threat? Not you personally, just your people. If it was just little ol' Umbreon hanging around in America or Europe or Canada it wouldn't be any concern. But YOUR PEOPLE keep coming and coming and coming by the hundreds of thousands and breeding like cockroaches once they get here with no end in sight!! Make it stop!! We have enough problems already without you Asians colonizing our country too. You have overpopulated and destroyed your own lands so now you must come to ours and do the same thing, like a virus I swear. Thank you for your time Don't mention it:D
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Re: Why China is the REAL master of the universe
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China's economy would probably collapse if so called American and other Western corporations would stop giving them such good business. If all of this stuff was still made in the US of A and not China they would be hurtin' pretty bad and they know it.
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Re: Why China is the REAL master of the universe
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Good job, lets play into the Jewish media image of us even more. Let me see here, lets kill all Koreans! That should get us more support eh? Tanooki's the same guy that told that Black Nationalist Brother Rhulah or whatever he called himself to get the F out and no one cares what he thinks or something like that. The guy(black guy) was saying how he respects the White Nationalists because they want racial separation and what's best for their people just like him, didn't have a bad word for us at all, and Tanooki has to come through and insult the man. Why??? He's either a really young immature kid who doesen't understand the movement, or a troll trying to cause trouble or something. Non Whites are allowed to post in the open forums y'know , that's partly what they're for, non Whites and White antis. No reason to insult the ones who act decent and agree with us!:eek: sheesh.
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Re: Los Angeles Times: Immigration Strains Resources..
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I think even those who will not be named are starting to realize things have gotten out of hand. They might have finally realized that when all of LA is overflowing with Mexicans they won't be safe up in Beverly Hills, they won't be able to leave their house, the Mexicans might even just kick in their door. Even alot of the yids at the Jewish Times must be realizing they have created a monster that even they are not safe from. We need to make sure to leave them lots of comments on this article:cool: With a WN point of view...
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Re: Jews and Muslims, Hispanics and Blacks
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You do understand the true owners of the United States are the Chinese and Saudis. Then why is it that the Mainstream media in the US always talks crap about Communist China and the Arabs/Saudis all the time but never, not once will you hear a word of criticism for Israel or the Jews.... They talk trash on CNN and Fox News etc.. about China and the Arabs all the time but you won't be hearing them criticize Israeli appartheid anytime soon;) The Chinese and Arabs are the Jew's scapegoats. The TRUE OWNERS of the USA are WHITE Americans. But we are unfortunately not the rulers anymore...
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Re: black culture
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[quote=Hwhite Powr;6023533] If by black culture, you mean contributions to modern culture by blacks i'll list the following music genres as being influenced by black culture, i'd have to do some research to find other contributions. Music: Rock and Roll How many Black rock stars can ya name?:rolleyes: Whites created Rock so shove it! It started as Hillbilly music! Jazz Whites started Jazz too. Gave it it's name and everything. But since about the 1950s certain people in the media...(cough) Jews want to pretend Blacks created Jazz and alot of people believe it now. But it would be a part of Black culture because alot of Blacks did play it and had a big impact on it, of course, and developed their own styles like Hot Jazz(Blacks tend to play it hot hot hot, as in loud, fast and aggressive, whereas Whites prefer the Cool sound, calm, relaxed and sophisticated, which is why it was Whites who started West Coast Jazz which led to Cool Jazz(Bill Evans had a huge hand in that), which led to Smooth Jazz which is today the most popular type of Jazz music and is dominated by Whites and quasi-White Ashkenazi Jews), and Bebop. A few of them actually still do play it. But if you turn on a comtemporary Jazz station you'll hear mostly White people and quasi-White Ashkenazi Jews. Not many Blacks, they all want to be rappers now. Blues In the beginning there was no distinction between what was Country and what was Blues, a Blues song was a particular style of a Country song. The term the Blues is White slang that dates all the way back to England. So called blue notes are prevalent in traditional Irish and British folk music(go figure). In the early days of recorded music there was no genre of Blues, a Blues song was a sad type of Country song. The record industry marketed Country/Blues performed by Whites as Hillbilly Music, and Country/Blues performed by Blacks as Race Music, the only distincton to be made at this time was the race of the performer. But as times changed they decided the terms race music and hillbilly music sounded too out dated and a bit offensive so the record industry began to call Hillbilly Music, Country, and Race Music became just simply Blues/Rythm and Blues, I'm not sure why they chose to call race music Blues/R&B, I think it's probably because the Blacks tended to do alot more Blues songs(low songs, depressed songs) than Whites, Whites tended to do more upbeat stuff, which is what would evolve from upbeat Hillybilly music into rock n' roll/rockabilly!! Then the Blacks proceeded to create their own style( Delta Blues) that we now recognize today as the Blues, ironic enough, the so-called 'Father of the Delta Blues was a mulatto named Charlie Patton and another one of the most influential figures in the early history of what would come to be known as Blues was Jimmie Rodgers...who was White, he influenced Howlin' Wolf and Muddy Waters. So...Black Blues music is a bastardized, spin off from White Country and Folk music and would not exist at all without White people. All of this so-called Black music is always from America, why? They need Whites to influence them and to immitate, that's why.:cool: I want to hear some traditional Black African music that isn't just beating wildly on a drum and chanting, similar to a toddler banging on pots and pans with a wooden spoon. Why is this Black music all from America? ;) Us White people were making plenty of good and popular music back in Europe before we ever came to America. Music that was much more sophisticated than simply banging on a drum and chanting and shouting. Soul R&B Black pop music. The R&B/Soul term is just a label created by the record industry for marketing convenience, a catchall, umbrella term for all Pop music performed by Blacks. But it is true, Black pop music is distinct from Whites for the most part, they do have unique styles, especially Motown and Funk. Once again, comes from America and not Africa, big surprise. I wish you guys were still making Motown, Funk and New Jack Swing instead of this hippity hoppity trash nowadays. Rap Hip-Hop You got me there. Electronic beats created by beat machines and synthesizers that are the product of White people and utilizing the so-called break beats and other beats, sounds and techniques that were/are stolen aka sampled from European Electronic groups and producers like Kraftwerk, with some explicit, materialistic and often times anti-White, rhyming chants and spoken word poetry to accompany it.
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Re: black culture
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I would like to add mud pies, jenkem, voodoo, mud huts, spears, wooden war masks, Reggae music, Funk music, Bebop, urban blight, the slam dunk, pimp mobiles(even though this would be impossible without the White man making automobiles in the 1st place;)), Good Times, the Jeffersons, Sanford and Son, Martin (tv series with Martin Lawrence), Fat Albert and race hustling to the list of Black cultural contributions. http://www.angryconservative.com/hom.../FatAlbert.jpg
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[quote=WASA;6025193] -The Patriot- Do you have some proof to back this up? Backing what up exactly? All that stuff I said about Blues and Jazz? Of course. There have been about 3 threads about music on here that I was involved in where myself and others provided a plethora of proof to back this up. None of these threads have been posted in in quite some time so I'll have to dig those up later, I'm about to get offline and go out at the moment. Especially the blues thing dating back to England.[/ The use of the phrase the Blues as in I got the Blues? Well, since I'm kinda in a hurry this is just straight from the wikipedia here..:rolleyes: But unlike alot of stuff on the wikipedia, especially when it comes to American music, this is actually some truth.:) Saying I have the Blues and such is White slang, as you can see George Colman used the term in 1798 in England and I'm sure he wasn't the only one around in England who said it, I've heard and read it was rather common slang in everyday life. And the phrase was common throughout the Civil War era in America, there are old letters that Civil War soldiers(from both sides) wrote home talking about how they have the Blues, etc..etc... The Blues are the blue spirits or blue demons/devils of sadness, depression, etc...Negative emotions. So if you're feelng down..sad, etc..you're feeling blue, you have the blues hanging over you, you can't get rid of the blues, etc..etc..we all know what the term means obviously. The phrase the blues is a reference to the the blue devils , meaning down spirits, melancholy, and sadness. An early reference to the blues can be found in George Colman's one act farce Blue devils (1798 ). [2] Though the use of the phrase in African American music may:rolleyes: be older, it has been attested to since 1912, when Hart Wand's Dallas Blues became the first copyrighted Blues composition . [3] [4] In lyrics the phrase is often used to describe a depressed mood . [5] The musical forms and styles that are now considered the blues as well as modern country music arose in the same regions during the nineteenth century in the southern United States. Recorded blues and country can be found from as far back as the 1920s, when the popular record industry developed and created marketing categories called race music and hillbilly music to sell music by blacks for blacks and by whites for whites, respectively. At the time, there was no clear musical division between blues and country, except for the ethnicity of the performer, and even that was sometimes documented incorrectly by record companies . [33] Blue notes are also prevalent in English folk music [4] . ( they're even more prevalent in Irish and Scottish Folk music than English but it doesn't mention that here.) Oh and as for Jazz, the first band to call themselves a Jazz band, to record Jazz music way back in 1917 and popularize it around America and Europe and to create and name the Dixieland style of Jazz(along with Tom Brown too), was the Original Dixieland Jazz Band, originally they spelled it Jass but they changed it because kids would think it was funny to scratch off the J on posters and such so it would say ORIGINAL DIXIELAND ASS BAND:rofl The ODJB looked like this...not very Black are they?;) http://farm1.static.flickr.com/146/3...7d4a5e.jpg?v=0 http://www.odjb.com/images/ODJB%20Ph...Re-Assunto.jpg Here's something about the ODJB's leader, Nick LaRocca, once again just briefly from the wikipedia. But this stuff is true and verifiable. It's pretty well known stuff about Nick LaRocca aka Joe Blade. In the 1950s he started writing numerous vehement letters to newspapers, radio, and television shows, stating that he was the true and sole inventor of jazz music, and that those who claimed that the music had Negro origins were part of a Communist conspiracy . Of course, he wasn't the inventor of Jazz, there was Jazz around in New Orleans since the 1890s. But what he and his band did do is founded the Dixieland style and gave it it's name and were the first Jazz band to call themselves a JASS band! and the first to record and therefore popularize the music all over the world. So he didn't really create Jazz, just a new style, Dixieland. But to him Dixieland was Jazz, and the other stuff that was similar that came before in the time before recorded music, was not real Jass at all, and maybe he was right...I mean..he should know..he is the one (presumably) who was the first to call it Jass afterall! So maybe it should be up to him and his band to decide what is and what is not Jass! :D La Rocca may have inadvertently done much damage to his own reputation, especially in some of his statements which are unusually racist even when compared to interviews with other white southerners born in the late 19th century , and his dismissal if not outright insults of his fellow white musicians. :rofl
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[quote=Hwhite Powr;6025839][quote=-The Patriot-;6024569] How many Black rock stars can ya name?:rolleyes: Whites created Rock so shove it! It started as Hillbilly music! no, whites didn't. You're wrong. Whatever you say, Kunta Kinte. :rolleyes: Rock music was invented by ni##as, that's about the stupidest thing I've ever heard and no one is going to believe you. So piss off, I hate you thieving little liars. If I had a dollar for every Black rock star in history...well...I just might be able to buy a six pack if I'm lucky, but I doubt it. Even Chuck Berry, the definitive Black rock star, was known as the Black Hillbilly and when he first started out everyone just heard him on records and assumed he was White. Alot of Black people were mad at Jimi Hendrix calling him a race traitor and everything because they thought he was sucking up to White people and trying to be White, playing White Rock music and moving to England and hanging out with all White friends, and White people called him the Electric Spade. Rock music comes from Hillbilly music, Appalachian Folk, Country and Bluegrass and can trace it's ancestry straight back to the Folk music of Ireland and Scotland, not the Congo! So dream on and stop trying to be a pathetic little culture thief, you people just cannot resist the temptation to steal things that don't belong to you can you? Show me the traditional, sub-saharan African music, where is it? huh? where? Let's hear it, I bet it sounds just like Rock n' Roll, the Blues and Jazz :rofl Oh wait, no it doesn't sound even remotely similar to any of this American music that Blacks like to call Black music, that's right. I almost forgot that Blacks need to be living in a White society amidst a White culture, surrounded by White people to influence them and to immitate otherwise they can do nothing but wildly bang on a drum and holler and shout and stamp their feet. If not, where is the traditional Black African music? Show us what that African music is all about, we would love to hear it. We would love to hear the Black African equivalent of Mozart, Bach, Beethoven or Chopin. I would love to hear some old, 2 or 3 hundred year old traditional Black African music that sounds even remotely similar to Jazz, Blues or Rock n' Roll...but it doesn't exist, but the funny thing is...I could show you plenty of examples of old, 2 or 3 hundred year old traditional European music that sounds remarkably similar to Jazz, Blues or Rock n' Roll...hm... Well anyways, I'll be waiting to hear some old traditional style Black African music, I'd especially like to hear some that isn't just beating on a drum and yelling and stomping feet, but I don't think there is any. Show us what that real authentic Black African music is all about homie.
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[quote=Unregistere;6030929][quote=-The Patriot-;6025402] West Africa in the American South: gathering the musical elements of jazz The elements that make jazz distinctive derive primarily from West African musical sources as taken to the North American continent by slaves, who partially preserved them against all odds in the plantation culture of the American South. siigh..not this again, here we go again with the usual posts you post over and over again even after they're proven wrong. who partially preserved them against all odds ;) Sure buddy , why not. Still waiting for that African music that sounds anything even remotely similar to Jazz...I don't need to read your typical Afro-Centric, Jewish, Marxist mantra straight from the wikipedia. You always post this same crap everytime this issue comes up. I'm not even wasting my time on it anymore, I've had to do it too many times already. These elements are not precisely identifiable because they were not documented— not precisely identifiable;) uh huh... The reason they were not documented is because they didn't exist. Until recently when they were just discovered by afro-centric, Jewish, and Communist historical revisionists. at least not until the mid- to late 19th century, and then only sparsely. Furthermore, black slaves came from diverse West African tribal cultures with distinct musical traditions. I'm still waiting to hear these distinct musical traditions, especially the ones that sound even remotely simliar to Jazz music.;) development by blacks of the so-called blues scale, with its “blue notes”— Yeah, the devlopment of the so-called Blue notes took place hundreds of years ago in the Folk music of Britain and Ireland, then they brought it to America;) Jazz grew from the African American slaves Wait, no it didn't. Says who? Wait, we all know who. Blacks, Jews and Communists. . By and large the slaves were relegated to picking up whatever little scraps of music were allowed them. Some truth for a change:D:p ------------------------------------------------------------- Ragtime as Usual a black music form too: Hey dumbass, we've been over this before, you and I. I'm going to dig up that old thread and post the real, non-Black origins of ragtime music on here later. The first published ragtime music was published by a White guy and there is not a scrap of proof that it was started by Blacks. -------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Joplin, Funny thing about Scott Joplin is he was classically trained by a White GERMAN music teacher:D and his greatest ambition was to be a composer of Classical music but he sucked so he ended up doing corny little ragtime songs instead. Seasonen: Classical music is the invention of Whites, and is so much more beautiful than such a base creation as the negro-born, Jew-sponsored sex music that is and was Rock 'N' Roll. Yeah yeah yeah... Same o' shi# you always post. That I always debunk. Why don't you ever go away? Elvis Presely wasn't even the first Rock star. You're an idiot. “...The instrumentation included the banjo, introduced by the African slaves via the minstrel shows, Yeah, here's your African banjo from the other thread where you spread the same mantra and it was all proven wrong. https://www.stormfront.org/forum/show...ighlight=music there ya go now if you want to debate about music AGAIN, even after you're always proved wrong, go do it on THAT thread, again. So you don't derail this one. SHOULD YOU GUYS KICK THE PATRIOT OUT OF YOUR MOVEMENT FOR ACCEPTING JEWISH ELVIS AS WHITE? THIS IS WHAT HE THINKS OF ELVIS:D: See what I tell ya this guy still has this same mantra saved from before on our music thread. Keeps posting the same mantra over and over like a parrot. ----------------------------------------------------- Germans thought Jazz was n*gger music sponsored by the Jew. See the star of David? :D No, that was pertaining to Louis Armstrong and Black Jazz musicians, not White ones. Louis Armstrong was unofficially adopted by the Jewish Karnofsky family of New Orleans. They bought him his first horn and got him lessons. They let him stay with them and used their Jewish connections to get him into the music industry and get him promoted. As a symbol of his gratitude he used to wear a Star of David pendant around his neck at all time. This poster is about how the Jews get these Blacks like Louis Armstrong into the music industry and promote them over White people to degrade White culture. But we've been over this before in more detail unregistere..my how soon we forget. [b]The word guitar may also be a Persian loanword to Iberian Arabic. The word guitar comes from the Roman cithara. The name guitarra was introduced into Spanish when such instruments were brought into Iberia by the Moors after the 10th century. Maybe. But Romans already had a proto-guitar hundreds of years before the Moors showed up in Spain and it was called a Cithara. Besides, unregistere, like I've told you before you pea brain, the Moors weren't Black you imbecile. They were Islamic Berbers and Arabs from MORocco. That's kinda why they call it...MORocco. :rolleyes: Gimme a break!
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[quote=Unregistere;6031327][quote=-The Patriot-;6029751][quote=Hwhite Powr;6025839] Jesus H. Christ you never get tired of this crap do ya? You've been here for a year on this site spreading the same BS. Over and over like a machine, unregistere.:rolleyes: This isn't true at all. Well there are books written about it, and even by Jews, and tv shows produced by Jews where they don't even try to say Blues comes straight from Africa, everyone knows it comes from White Country and Folk music, Blacks were completely acculturated by Southerners, not the other way around you retard, yeah it's true. :rolleyes: It wasn't called Blues in Africa but advise you to listen to the Black African music of Senegambia (West Africa) and you'll see where the Blues really came from. Show me, I want to hear it. I'll show you the Blues songs from Ireland and Britain. Put your money where your mouth is I want to hear this African Blues music. Country music and Bluegrass didn't even exist back then. It did, they just didn't call it that. It was Old-Time music, Hillbilly music or Mountain music, or just Folk music. Remember the term Country was a manufactured term made up by the record industry to replace the term Hillbilly music. Country music is the white take on Blues music, not the other way around. Liar. Even the wikipedia and MSM woudn't say something like that. And that's really saying something. F U. A Mississippi native, Jimmy Rodgers (1897 - 1933) was an amateur guitar player who worked as a railroad brakeman until tuberculosis forced him to find other work. He adapted black country blues into commercial hillbilly music, creating a new form called the blue yodel. Within a year of that 1927 Peer recording, Rodgers was famous around the country, billed as The Singing Brakeman. In all, Rodgers recorded 110 titles, and, in 1961, was the first person elected to the Country Music Association Hall of Fame. Country-Blues was White music, that's where the Black Blues comes from. This was at the point where there was no distinction to be made between what was Blues or Country except for the race of the performer. The African-American music of the rural South provided the source for gospel, jazz, and blues, You're just getting retarded. Ni##ers invented Gospel? Southern Gospel was the original Gospel, it traces it's roots all the way back to the Christian hymns of Europe. White Hillbillies were singing Southern Gospel music when the Blacks were still on the plantation pickin' cotton and saying yes massa. And as we all know...those hillbillies were and still are racist and don't want much to do with any smelly old negroes. Blacks picked this stuff up on the plantations, they were completely acculturated by the dominant, well established culture of the White majority. Whites weren't acculturated by some little Black minority that was confined to plantations until the late 1860s, you're a liar and a retard. Even the wikipedia and the MSM wouldn't try to say something like that. And that's really saying something because wikipedia and the MSM is run by anti-White Marxist Jews. I'm not even going into the rest of this. Go over to the OTHER THREAD Music in the Truth about MLK section https://www.stormfront.org/forum/show...ighlight=music AGAIN. Where this has already been gone over a million times. I don't have time for this. Jeezus Chriss you're aggravating as Hell. Bill Monroe Bill Monroe didn't invent Bluegrass, it was already around he just gave it it's name, hence the term father of bluegreass he himself even admitted he did not create bluegrass but rather just gave it a name. Also an avid guitarist by the age of 12, Monroe's developing instrumental style was likewise shaped by the African-American musical traditions/teachings of black fiddler/guitarist Arnold Schultz. Oh I bet. This mysterious magical musical negro fiddle player just popped up in the Kentucky Hills one day and taught Bill Monroe everything he knows and then disappeared back into the magical musical negro land that he came from. But nobody ever heard of this until just recently. Uh huh, sounds about right.:rolleyes: Where is it that a negro in the Kentucky Hills which were and still are mostly White, would have gotten a White instrument like a fiddle and learned how to play it in the fist place? hm.... Maybe he learned to play his Irish fiddle in Africa! Then came back just to teach little 12 year old Billy Monroe everything he knows, then disappeared back to the Motha Land and now the historical revisionists have only recently just discovered that he even existed. Yeah, that's it! The African-American that Influenced Bill Monroe He played some fiddle with a groid before, big deal. Since when do Blacks play fiddle and live in the Kentucky Hills anyways? Must've been a one of a kind magical negro. Monroe is most famous for creating bluegrass music (although it was not labeled as such until many years later) He did not create Bluegrass music and he said that himself, look it up hot shot. “Until recently, Yeah, why do you think all of this BS is just coming out recently go figure:rolleyes: It was just recently pulled out of some black, jewish, communist or self loathing White idiot's rear end and posted up on some random website.:D Now that Bill Monroe has been dead for 12 years and can't defend himself. ^^ Are you going to accuse those white Country and Bluegrass pioneers of lying? LOL Lying about what? Bill Monroe may have played some fiddle with a groid at one time, doesn't really surprise me. Not a big deal. White people were playing music like this...LONG before anyone ever heard of a genre of music called rock n' roll or the blues(although both were popular slang terms). This is some of the kind of Hillbilly music that evolved into early rock n' roll, and influenced all of the early rock n' rollers the most like Elvis, Buddy Holly, Eddie Cochran, etc... and yes even Chuck Berry aka the Black Hillbilly. Mmk. Nothing African about this old time Hillbilly music that they've been playing down in the Appalachians for generations and generations, since way before the first rock n' roll or the black man's blues.:) Oh and I'm still anticipating hearing some of that pure, undiluted, traditional Black African music, I can't wait. [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5BzRYME1ww[/YOUTUBE] [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLhORvsM4wU&feature=related[/YOUTUBE] [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHCKIs3B2Sw&feature=related]YouTube - Grandpa Jones - My Little Lady[/YOUTUBE] This one works, just gotta click on the link at the top, 'cause it won't let me embed it. It's a good old Hillbilly song : )
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[quote=Four Eyes;6030668][quote=-The Patriot-;6024569] If white people invented Jazz, Rock, and Blues then why were they condemned by white supremacists of the past condem them when they crossed over into the mainstream? I don't think they were. The leader of the Original Dixieland Jass Band, Nick LaRocca, was well known to be racist as Hell, alot of the early White Dixieland musicians were. Rockabilly and all types of later Rock music, especially Southern Rock, have always been very popular with White racists. Alot of Puritan type Christians didn't like early Rock n' Roll/Rockabilly or Jazz because they thought it was the devil's music, they thought people should only listen to religious music. They didn't like early rock n' roll because they thought it was a bunch of wild and crazy Hillbilly music!! The reason black music is from america is because our culture was diluted through slavery, Black Africans don't make any music? Nothing other than banging on a drum and shouting and stamping their feet? most blacks in the U.S. can't even trace their geneaology out of the country, thus African-American culture and Afican culture are further separated than something like Irish-American and Irish culture. Excuses excuses... Ever notice that when you talk about blacks you talk about an entire continent but when you talk about whites you can pick specific countires? No, not an entire continent, not Northern Africa. Also New Jack swing was a facet of hip-hop, No it wasn't, it was R&B music. and here are some black rockers for you: TV on the Radio, The Dirtbombs, Bad Brains (highly influential to the hardcore movement), Bloc Party, The Dears, Mighty Fine, The Stalkers, The Gories, the Planets (were approached by Malcom Mclaren about being their manager before the Pistols started), Buzz and the Flyers (80s rockabilly), Never heard of 'em. These guys all sound pretty recent too. Probably why I've never heard of them because modern pop music sucks donkey testicles. thin Lizzy, their singer was half Black and half Irish. Cody ChesnuTT... Who's he? I could go on without saying Jimmy Hendrix He spelled it, Jimi, he was about 1/4 Cherokee, and the Black community talked crap about him all the time for being a race traitor. For playing White music, and moving to England and hanging out with all White friends and having White girlfriends. Whites called him the Electric Spade because the idea of a Black rock star was unusual and so Hendrix was considered a novelty. Hendrix wanted to be an honorary Englishman.
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Four eyes, I have no idea how you quoted me on something I didnt post. Anyways, I'm done with this one, If you don't believe that Rock and Roll was influenced by blacks, then talk to the Rock and Roll hall of fame and ask them why black blues musicians were inducted. No, Black individuals had an influence on early rock n' roll, but they didn't i nvent it, and early rock n' roll is not Black music in the least. They were influenced by Whites and acculturated by Whites and playing White instruments and all to begin with. So you see, a Black influence in America, by a few certain Black individuals, is not an African influence, because even if they happen to be Black, the music they're playing is still of Western influences, the musical theory and instruments are also Western aka White and European. We're looking for some real authentic Black Africanness here, not Chuck Berry and Jimi Hendrix or Ray Charles:rolleyes: I'm still waiting to hear this good traditional Black African rock n' roll, jazz and blues music straight from deepest darkest Africa that I keep hearing about... I find it really quite fascinating because I've always just thought that all Black African music just involved beating wildly on a drum and hollering and shouting and stamping feet. So I'm really looking to hearing some that is not and sounds just like rock n' roll, jazz and blues music.:D I hope you guys post some soon. I really want to hear some traditional Black African music and see some traditional Black African culture that has absolutely no White influence, I'm sure it's great.
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[quote=Four Eyes;6034832][quote=-The Patriot-;6032863][quote=Four Eyes;6030668] Okay, I think the problem here is that you don't know much about music in general so let me break things down. Nah, you only know what you read on a wikipedia is the problem. I could list off the old guys too, Bo Diddley, Blues, not rock n' roll. Chuck Berry, aka the Black Hillbilly Little Richard, A faggott who wore make-up and most White people don't listen to. The Isley Brothers, R&B, they are not rock n' roll. Richie Havens, Who? Ike Turner (notorious wife beater, I know, but Rocket 88 is concidered by many to be the first rock song), Ike Turner was not rock n' roll, he was R&B. The first officially recognized rock n' roll song was Rock Around the Clock by Bill Haley and the Comets from 1954 and the melody was a complete rip off of Move It On Over by Hank Williams from 1947. Wynonie Harris (also credited by some as the first rock musician), Huh? Has anyone actually heard of her? and Jimmy Preston (also credited as the first), Credited as the first by...someone who doesn't know what the hell they're talking about maybe. No one has even heard of that loser:p not to mention countless doo-wop bands (Italian doo-wop didn't pick up until around 1958). Doo-Wop is...not Rock n' Roll, and..it's not very African. What does you having heard of any of these people change, you're no kind of authority and you actively separate yourself from blacks, obviously you've never heard of them. I am an authority. You're only a pathetic liar trying to say Blacks created Rock music:rolleyes: Yeah right. I'm still waiting for this African music I keep hearing about by the way... African music evolved along with all other forms, ever heard of Afrobeat (Fela Kuti, Femi Kuti, Hugh Masekila, the Budos Band)? Also the tom-tom and bass drum heavy beats found in jazz, rock, and forms beyond are unmistakably tribal (in an African sense of the word). Bass is not Black:rolleyes: Blacks did not invent Bass:rolleyes: New Jack Swing is indeed a facet of hip-hop, hip-hop is more than just rap and musically reffers to a production style and urban influence. New Jack swing was an era in hip-hop that featured R&B singers and rappers alike, Heavy D, MC Hammer, Salt 'N' Peppa, Digital Underground, MC Lyte, and Wreckx-N-Effect were all among the New Jack Swing rappers, it was all about the beats to begin with. Nah, New Jack Swing was a style of Black pop music aka R&B popular in the late 1980s and early 90s, some popular acts were New Edition, Boyz 2 Men, Keith Sweat, Johnny Gill, Gerald Levert, etc... Hendrix learned from a black kid named Butch Snipes when he was young and toured with several black bands before he started the Experience, he may not have been widely accepted by the black community,but he did support Martin Luther King and the Black Panther party, I heard the Black Panthers hated him for being a race traitor, for playing White music, moving to England, and hanging out with all White friends and dating a White girl.... Either way you want to look at it here...Rock music is NOT Black culture. It's White culture, sorry. Just because there were a few bop wop a loo wop type Black R&B performers who got lumped into the rock n' roll category in the 1950s doesn't make rock music a Black invention or Black culture seeing as since the mid 1950s there hasn't hardly been a Black 'rock' star at all, only Hendrix and a couple of half-breeds like Slash and the guy from Thin Lizzy, and a few people no one has ever heard of.:D Also, rock n' roll is not the same thing as rock music, rock n' roll was just an influence on what would become rock music. They are not one in the same to begin with. Rock is not Rock n' Roll/Rockabilly anymore than Rock n' Roll aka Rockabilly was Country or R&B.
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[quote=Unregistered!;6034873] Let me translate what the poster below says. entartete musik eine abrechnung von staatsrat. Translation: degenerate music on a payroll of State Council. I agree, most Black Jazz is very degenerate crap that is promoted by Jews like the Karnofskys did to Louis Armstrong, yep. It has nothing to do with Louise Armstrong but rather Jazz music which germans thought was degerate music sponsored by Jews. Well, if they did, they thought wrong didn't they now? Maybe you should go look for the infamous Nazi Swing music that came out of the Third Reich;) Now why would a music created by whites be considered degerate.:rolleyes: Because Puritans only like boring, religious music. Oh my God! Look at that Elvis Presley boy! I think he just wiggled his hips! Oh Lord he's the anti-Christ! He must've learned that from an evil negro! :rofl
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[quote=Unregistere;6035361][quote=-The Patriot-;6032863][quote=Four Eyes;6030668] This quote says it all: ...This music[Rock 'n' roll] excited the young, who were quick to adopt it and with it the accompanying behavioral style elements, and shocked their parents, who perceived it as a form of protest against the existing order. The adult world reacted vehemently: rock and roll records were smashed or burned in public, stage shows were banned or interrupted by the police, and deejays who ventured to spin rock and roll songs on their turn tables were fired on the spot (Miller and Nowak, 1977: 303-307). Now, why would white people do this to their creation.:rolleyes: Like I already said, it was loud, and had a backbeat and Elvis Presley was out there shaking around and Jerry Lee Lewis was talking about a whole lotta shakin' goin' on and great balls of fire and literally lighting his piano on fire on stage, and the Christian Puritans thought it was the Devil's Music and trashy Hillbilly music! :rofl Reaction to Jazz in Germany:Entartete Musik means degerate music.( black music sponsored by the Jew thus the star of David). Why would white people react so hostile to white created music.:rolleyes: Jazz was started by Whites, but Blacks don't play it the same way. They always played it much more hot, as in loud, fast and aggressive, and their lyrics were more degenerate than those of the White Jazz musicians. It says degenerate music and has a picture of a negro, the inspiration for this is no doubt Louis Armstrong, who became a world celebrity and would've been nothing without the Jewish Karnofsky family, and he always wore a star of david. I agree, that old Black Jazz music of the time, and Louis Armstrong, was some very degenerate crap. Most of the White Jazz however, was pretty decent. But more deeply, jazz represented the enemyboth literally, in the sense of its being American, and figuratively in the sense that its African roots I'd love to hear this African music that Jazz comes from I'd really love to hear it. I mean I could show you European music from 200 or 300 years ago that sounds remarkably similar to Jazz, what does Africa have?:rolleyes: Jazz has no African roots, but whatever you think is true! Because it says that on some random website it is true... made it racially degenerate, an offense to Aryan purity. To enjoy jazz music was to thumb your nose at the Nazi cause. There were also those who claimed that American Jews were behind the whole jazz movement, and the Nazi anti-Semitic rage only added to their distrust of jazz. I couldn't care what some Nazi thought of American music anyhow. If they thought a bunch of ni##ers created Jazz music, they were wrong. But the media has been trying to promote that lie for a long time, it really started in the 1950s though is when they really started to promote the idea that Jazz was ni&&er music. So Hitlers government tried repeatedly and in various ways (though with mixed success) to outlaw jazz. Playing, listening to, or owning recordings of jazz music was made illegaland that included listening to jazz from abroad on a shortwave radio. The very worst form of jazz, from the Nazi perspective, was swing, which was especially popular among young people. As shown in the 1993 film Swing Kids, German youth frequently used swing music and dancing as their outlet for rebellionin this case, rebellion against the Nazi values in general and the Hitler Youth in particular. Many of the young people who were caught at covert swing parties were sent to concentration camps. But, of course, every attempt to wipe out swing just galvanized its fans further. The surest way to make something desirable, after all, is to forbid it. Because Hitler thought Jazz music was degenerate that means Blacks created it..okay that makes sense. Hitler was a half insane, old square all hopped up on speed who hated anything that wasn't Germanic because it would contaminate Germany's culture, especially if it was American and there were unfortunately alot of Blacks involved in it with Jews promoting them. That is no proof that Jazz was invented by Blacks, because it wasn't. But I know where Jazz comes from, so if the whole rest of the world wanted to give credit for the birth of Jazz to some braindead negroes then they could go right ahead, but they'd be wrong. Whatever you think is true man! By the way turn on the contemporary Jazz station and tell me how many Blacks you see these days;) Not many. Still waiting to hear this African Jazz music by the way...still waiting for some real Africanness. ... PS- I suggest you go listen to some Nazi Swing!:D The Third Reich only hated the degenerate, Jew sponsored Negro Jazz, not the music itself if it was not that over the top, lewd, loud and annoying crap like negroes liked to play. Charlie and His Orchestra was led by Karl Schwendler, an English speaking German who broadcast Nazi-themed swing and big-band hits every night on the medium-wave and short-wave bands throughout the 1930s to Canada, the US and Britain. Leave it to Goebbels to take the music of The Andrews Sisters, Paul Whiteman and Irving Berlin and fill it with venomous rants against Jews, America and the British. The man took his propaganda seriously. But at least he admitted it was propaganda, unlike the current crop of spin-meisters. http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2005/1...more_nazi.html Joseph Goebbels, Hitlers propaganda minister, assembled a fairly competent swing band called Charlie and His Orchestra to perform Nazified versions of the jazz hits of the day. :cool: This Nazi Jazz is actually available to listen to online too. You can hear it right here! :D http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2005/0...e_and_his.html
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[quote=Four Eyes;6036834][quote=-The Patriot-;6036620][quote=Four Eyes;6034832][quote=-The Patriot-;6032863] You're just dodging me now, you have no idea what you're talking about, I beg to differ. Despite what you heard Hendrix was very interested in the black power movement, he even used to announce Voo Doo Child as the Black Power national anthem. Yeah? That's great. Have you ever even heard rocket 88 (it came out 3 years before Rock Around the Clock)? Yeah, it sucks and doesn't sound like rock n' roll. It came out in 1951? Move It On Over was 1947;) Rock Around the Clock ripped off the melody from Move It On Over. Have you ever listened to Bo Diddley? I try not to. But yes I've heard him. Blues is not as fast or aggressive, they used to call the the Rolling Stones and some of their British invasion counter parts White Boy Blues Bands because they were clearly trying to sound like Muddy Waters, Rolling Stones worshipped groid bluesmen for some reason, yeah no big surprise. Mick Jagger he married a Black girl and had a half breed child. they were slower than early Isley Brothers (Shout! and Twist and Shout are rock and roll staples) Isley Brothers are R&B. or Bo Diddley (Pills, Hey Bo Diddley, and Roadrunner are very much rock tunes), If you say so. Remember, rock n' roll is not the same thing as Rock. Rock didn't start until the 1960s. Rock n' roll was just the main influence on Rock but rock n' roll and Rock music are not technically the same thing. Rock n' Roll was a little fad in the 1950s and very early 1960s, it died down in the mid 1960s and then Rock music was born. Some people use the terms Rock music and Rock n' Roll interchangeably but that's not technically correct. so are they not rock and roll either? Rolling Stones are rock n' roll. Affirmative. Isley Brothers and Bo Diddley? No. I mentoned Afrobeat as a style of music that grew out of Africa and you dodged it completely. Probably because some afro beat nonsense isn't worth my time. It was influenced by American music too, I'm talking about real African music with no Western influence at all..traditional stuff..not some stuff that began in the 1970s after a Nigerian took a trip to the US and brought back what he learned to Nigeria... Afrobeat is a combination of Yoruba music , jazz , Highlife , and funk rhythms You see, it was influenced by Jazz, Funk and R&B, so it's not real African music. Nigerians were first introduced to Afrobeat in 1970 when Kuti returned from a U.S tour with his group Nigeria 70 (formerly Koola Lobitos). I never said blacks invented bass but rather that African drum cadences are prevalent throughout popular music and have been for some time. Yes, maybe in rap music and reggae, or the samba. Rock historians will tell you this stuff, that jazz was for some time considered to be the music of blacks and Jews That myth only really started in the 1950s. Anyone who says Jass music was started by Blacks is quite simply..a liar or a fool. The fact remains that...the first band to record Jazz music was all White, the first band/s to popularize jazz music nationwide were White, the first band to call themselves a Jazz(Jass at the time) band was all White. You're not getting around that:D Hey look, anyhow, this is supposed to be about Black culture, not a debate on ethno-musicology so if you really like arguing about this crud then go over to this music thread https://www.stormfront.org/forum/show...ighlight=music or something, you might find someone there who wants to argue about this stuff, if not, have a nice life because I have better things to do. I'm not really here to convince anyone of anything. If it makes you feel sleep better at night to think Blacks were the first to play Jazz music or Rock n' Roll, then go right ahead. Doesn't make much difference to me. I'll still be right and I'll still be White, that's what really counts to me:cool: You'll still be seeing mainly White performers and fans at any popular Jazz club today, or on contemporary Jazz radio, or at a rock concert and in the rock music scene. I guess if Blacks did create Jazz or Rock n' Roll(of course they didn't but I'm being hypothetical) then they must not have been much good at it, they just couldn't hang with the White folks because the Rock and Jazz scenes are dominated by Whites and White-ish Ashkenazi Jews and not Blacks and have been for quite some time. So I guess you all just couldn't hang with the White folks, Whites must've gotten too talented, sophisticated and advanced for the Blacks and left them in the dust.:p and that most early white rock and roll acts site black musicians as primary influences, remove blacks from the equation and the music just doesn't come out the same . Okay look ... I'm gonna lay the real deal on ya like butter on a roll, slick(am I speaking your language?:p Trying to use terms you would understand a little better, perhaps.). Here's the scoop...there were two main streams of uh...proto-rock n' roll at the time, there was the Black R&B style, and there was the White Country/Hillbilly-ish style. Most early White rock n' rollers were influenced more by Country/Hillbilly music and played a more Countryish/Hillbillyish style, later this would come to be called Rockabilly. Most Blacks(aside from Chuck Berry aka the Black Hillbilly) basically played R&B. All of this stuff got lumped together under the same umbrella of rock n' roll by some Jewish DJ from Cleveland. When you listen to early Black rock n' rollers they sound like R&B, when you listen to early White rock n' rollers they sound more Country/Hillbilly influenced, yes even Elvis aka the Hillbilly Cat who used to play Hillbilly music on the Grand Ole Opry before he was a Rock n' Roll/Rockabilly star and used to get played on Country stations all the time and still does, same as Jerry Lee Lewis, who even made only exclusively Country songs in the late 1960s and later on in his career and still does sing mainly Country to this day. So you see, the Blacks and Whites had different styles. People say Elvis Presley was a big deal because he was influenced by both the more Country/Hilllbilly style that the White guys were playing and by the R&B styles that the Blacks were playing and sort of melded them together. But he is classified as Rockabilly and had an extensive background from day one in Country/Hillbilly music and that was his main influence. Compare the Rockabilly sound to the more R&B sound of people like Little Richard, Fats Domino, and people(Black people) like that and you'll see the difference. When most White people think of rock n' roll they think more of the Rockabilly style, I think from the sound of it when Blacks think rock n' roll they think more of the R&B style, which alot of White people don't even really consider to be rock n' roll , just like you keep saying Isley Brothers are rock n' roll but I think most White people like me hear that and say no that's not rock n' roll that's R&B. There were 2 separate streams that ended up being combined under the same rock n' roll umbrella by record companies and some DJs, like that Jew from Cleveland, Friedman I think was his name. Okay, now seriously...if you want to go on and on arguing and debating about ethno-musicology then you could do it right here... https://www.stormfront.org/forum/show...ighlight=music Instead of derailing this thread any further, and I'm still waiting to hear all of this traditional African music that I keep hearing of that spawned all popular music as we know it today:rolleyes: Not some jungle boogie afro beat that was only started in the 1970s after a Nigerian took a trip to the US and heard all of the American music.
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Re: black culture
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[quote=Four Eyes;6038321][quote=-The Patriot-;6038154][quote=Four Eyes;6036834][quote=-The Patriot-;6036620][quote=Four Eyes;6034832] I have to say that now were just getting bogged down in semantics now, though I will take one last swipe by saying that Bill Haley covered Rocket 88 Everybody covered everybody back in those days. Alot of famous songs from Black Bluesmen were covers of old traditional Folk songs written and originally performed by White Southerners, some even dating back to Europe. Chuck Berry's (aka the Black Hillbilly) first hit single was Maybellene which was a renamed and slightly reworked version of the song Ida Red by the Country group Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys, which itself was an updated version of an old, traditional Appalachian(White) Folk song. So as far as traditional African music goes, the West African worksongs and hollers were a practice commonly used to break up the monotony of repeatative manual labor, slaves carried these traditions over to the US and they became spirituals and chain gang songs, if you listen to old blues albums (Son House for example) some of the songs are just vocals and clapping, other bluesmen (I was just listening to When the War Was On by Blind Willie Johnson) deliberately adopted the throat singing style (a style found in Asia and Europe as well but not practiced by white American settlers, it was mostly a Russian thing). If you want to claim that spirituals are white or that they had no bearing on the blues go ahead, but site examples. So called negro spirituals resulted from the Black slaves' exposure to White Christian hymns back when they were still on the plantation. Whites also made spiritual songs, the original spiritual songs, which is why negro spirituals are called negro spirituals to distinguish them. Negro spirituals are called negro spirituals or just simply spirituals and Whites usually say spiritual song instead of just spiritual. Also, slave owners were known to write work songs for their slaves to sing while they worked the fields, to make them work better.;) Mark Twain used to enjoy penning new work song lyrics for his family's slaves to sing while they picked the cotton. Also, most Whites never owned a single slave and picked their own damned cotton, and they too sang work songs to boost morale while they moved up and down the rows picking cotton. If you want to claim that spirituals are white or that they had no bearing on the blues go ahead, but site examples Oh they did have an influence on the Blues and all American music, they became a part of the stew known as American roots music, Americana, the modern genres of Blues, Country, Jazz, Rock, etc...all have roots in this mash up, which is why it's called, roots music. But since you have requested for me to site examples, I shall do so... From Black guys..who are professional ethno-musicologists...with college degrees from some of the most prestigous universities... Even BLACK, PROFESSIONAL, college educated ethno-musicologists will side with me on that:D Read.. studies by Willie Ruff and others have situated the origin of black spiritual music inside enslaved peoples' exposure to their masters' Hebridean -originated gospels. [8] African-American economist and historian Thomas Sowell also notes that the southern, black, ex-slave population was acculturated to a considerable degree by and among their Scots-Irish redneck neighbours. Go look at some photos of Willie Ruff and Thomas Sowell, just look at how Black they are and look at their college degrees in musicology:D Maybe you won't believe them either? They are professionals on ethno-musicology, just like me:p Also as far as New Jack Swing goes the song New Jack Swing itself is a rap song produced by Teddy Reily (often credited with creating the genre) and performed by Wreckx-N-Effect, next time you try to define things in terms of your own lexicon, I suggest you stay away from things you know very little about The music known as New Jack Swing is still a style of r&b/accappella music no matter where the term new jack swing may have came from, you're not going to tell me that Keith Sweat and Johnny Gill were hip hop and not r and b are you?:rolleyes:. But I really don't care about the new jack swing. Let's try to keep this from being one of those chicken/egg things, that is to say if we indeed do want to keep this up .You could keep this up like a bottle of viagra, over in the music thread I've posted links to on here if that's what floats your boat. I really don't care. I've been over this same stuff on here so much in the last year it really becomes tedious, I'd rather not. But It's your thing, do what ya wanna do - the Isleys :rofl;)
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Re: black culture
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[quote=Unido;6038674][quote=-The Patriot-;6036627] Black music degenerate? yeah, right! :rolleyes: I said most Black Jazz. Some music that is performed by Blacks is okay. I'm from the Detroit area so I grew up hearing plenty of Motown and Al Green(he's from Grand Rapids, MI) on the radio and I don't really think it's degenerate. Whites did not create any new music in America. Oh...yes they did, typical Black mantra:rolleyes: White music in America is nothing but white washed black music Period. More typical Black mantra. Only Black people create music, White boys just immitate:rolleyes: Uh huh...and in the 1600s when Europeans like Monteverdi, Telemann and Vivaldi were composing masterpieces and the Irish were singing folk songs like Whiskey In the Jar, and Europeans were playing the piano, fiddle, violin, the sax, the trumpet, the accordian, the mandolin and the guitar what were the Black Africans up to I wonder...probably down there in the jungle banging on a hollowed out log with a stick. Seriously. What type of music could Blacks have ever played without having been introduced to White instruments and musical theory and harmonies and having been introduced to and influenced by White Christian Hymns and Gospel and Folk music and Old Time Hillbilly music, and Marching Band music and Classical music, hm...gee, I wonder. We'd be back to more banging on primitive made drums with sticks and yelling and shouting. What would they be doing right now without beat machines, synthesizers and such that were created and pioneered by White Europeans. Hm... how would they make their rap music beats... Elvis King of rock 'n' roll: But not the first rock n' roll and not the inventor of rock n' roll was he? No of course not, you want some real old school, early proto-rock n' roll from the 1930s and 40s go listen to some Maddox Brothers and Rose. The colored folks been singing it and playing it just like I'm doin' now, man, for more years than I know. They played it like that in the shanties and juke joints and nobody paid it no mind 'til I goose it up. Played what exactly? I got it from them. Oh did he? That's cool. Down in Tupelo, Mississippi, I used to hear old Arthur Crudup bang his box the way I do now, and I said if I ever got to the place I could feel all old Arthur felt, I'd be a music man like nobody ever saw. - Elvis on Rock & Roll music,Charlotte Observer, June 26, 1956 Arthur Big Boy Crudup (also known as Pop Crudup) (August 24, 1905 — March 28, 1974) was a delta blues singer and guitarist. He is best known outside blues circles for writing songs later covered by Elvis Presley (and since covered by dozens of other artists), such as That's All Right (Mama) (1946), My Baby Left Me and So Glad You're Mine.[/b][/b] What you're trying to do here is pretend like Elvis was influenced by some negro in a juke joint and no one else:rolleyes: Elvis's biggest musical influences were Hillbilly/Country singers and Gospel(White Gospel). He even began his career as a Country singer. Like I already said, there were 2 separate and distinct streams of music that got lumped together into the broad rock n roll category which was created by DJs and record companies in the 1950s. The Black stream which was hyped up rhythm and blues, and the White stream which was Hillbilly music on steroids with a more pronounced back beat and more percussion than a typical Hillbilly song, this is referred to as Rockabilly. Elvis just liked music, he was influenced by everything he heard, every musician is influenced consciously or subconsciously by everything they hear. Elvis didn't care if it was Black music or White music he just played whatever and listened to whatever he felt like. If he was passing by some Black juke joint and heard some interesting sounding music he'd just listen and maybe ask them hey how do you get that sound? then they show him and he says something like well, thank ya, thank ya very much and he adds a new technique or lick to his arsenal and thinks nothing of it. Elvis just liked music, period, he didn't care if it was performed by a Black or White person, he'd listen to anything and everything and he soaked it all up like a sponge. Something about Elvis's musical tastes from the wikipedia with good references, pretty well known stuff about the Hillbilly Cat... In Memphis, Presley went to record stores that had jukeboxes and listening booths, playing old records and new releases for hours. He was an audience member at the all-night white—and black—gospel sings downtown.[46] Memphis Symphony Orchestra concerts at Overton Park were another Presley favorite, along with the Metropolitan Opera. His small record collection included Mario Lanza and Dean Martin. Presley later said, I just loved music. Music period.[ 43] Memphis had a strong tradition of blues music and Presley went to blues as well as hillbilly venues . Many of his future recordings were inspired by local African American composers and recording artists, including Arthur Crudup, Rufus Thomas and B.B. King.[47] King says that he knew Elvis before he was popular. He used to come around and be around us a lot ... on Beale Street.[48] Presley himself said: I loved records by Sister Rosetta Thorpe, ... Roy Acuff, Ernest Tubbs, Ted Daffan, Jimmie Rodgers, Jimmy Davis and Bob Wills .[45] Those are all White Country singers he's naming there...other than the first one she was a Black singer who sang mainly Black Gospel music. Now Elvis Presley was supposedly the first guy to blend these 2 streams of rock and roll together, the Black R&B styled stuff and the White Country/Hillbilly styled stuff(Rockabilly), that's what he's most known for, but his biggest and earliest influences were still Country/Hillbilly and Gospel and he is still classified as Rockabilly. He began his career performing only Country/Hillbilly music, his nickname was the Hillbilly Cat, he appeared several times as a guest on the Grand Ole Opry and Louisiana Hayride and his first #1 hit single was a Country song, it was #1 on the Country charts in 1955.[/B] Here is Elvis Presley's first #1 charted single,it is a Country song, it was recorded in 1955, his first rock n' roll album wasn't even recorded until a year later in 1956. The song reached the [ Billboard national country music chart #1 position by February 1956, and remained there for 5 weeks. It was the first recording to make Elvis Presley a national known country music star. [2] [3] [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apir6cgcdbY[/youtube] Oh and speaking of Elvis Presley, that reminds me of this... :D Elvis Presley: Nazi May 18, 2005 From: Agence France-Presse Almost 28 years after his death, fans of the King of Rock, Elvis Presley, can now see their icon in a radically different light; that as a Nazi. The legend is seen wearing a Nazi cap and giving a Nazi salute in some pictures taken from a grainy half-hour home cine film. The pictures, believed to be from the sixties, were taken during a boat trip with friends and have surfaced at the same time as Presley's ex-wife Priscilla released his home movies. I was given it ages ago, I think when I used to own a bar. But I had never watched it. It wasn't until I found it in the loft that I decided to. When I did I was shocked, Mark Vernon, who owns the tape, was quoted as saying. http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117...-13762,00.html Jimmy Rodgers Father of Country music Jimmie Rodgers is considered the first Country music super star (even though the music still wasn't even called Country back then until around the 1940s, up until then it was still either classified as race music if the performer was Black or hillbilly music if they were White) he was nationwide famous and very rich for his time, he rode around in Cadillacs, wore expensive fancy suits and bought himself a large mansion in Texas known as the Blue Yodeler's Paradise because the Blue Yodeler was his nickname that one of his first producers gave him . A Mississippi native, Jimmy Rodgers (1897 - 1933) was an amateur guitar player who worked as a railroad brakeman until tuberculosis forced him to find other work. He adapted black country blues into commercial hillbilly music No he didn't that's a lie that anti-White idiots like you like to spread around, he did no such thing, Jimmie Rodgers was all original. That crap you're saying that he immitated some Black music is some bullcrap started by an anti-White, Commie, so called musicologist named Cohen, I can't remember his first name. He said that in a book he wrote about American music on the chapter about Jimmie Rodgers. You're quoting right out of that book, his name is Cohen that says it all, the anti-White agenda is clear. I can't recall the first name off hand. Back in Jimmie Rodger's days there was no such thing as a genre of music called Blues, Jimmie Rodgers was one of the pioneers of what would later become a genre known as Blues. He had a big influence on Black Bluesmen like Howlin' Wolf and Muddy Waters most notably. Which is why he has a marker on the Mississippi Blues Trail for his importance to the development of the Blues. He didn't copy Blacks, Blacks like Howlin' Wolf copied him! That's where Howlin' Wolf got his signature Howl from, from listening to Jimmie Rodgers yodel! But of course you knew that. Muddy Waters took his name after listening to Mississippi River Blues by Jimmie Rodgers, because his nickname was already Muddy from when he was a kid he liked to play in the mud all the time, and in Rodger's Mississippi River Blues he talks about Mississippi muddy waters. Muddy Waters thinks hey I'm from Mississippi and they call me Muddy, I'ma call myself Muddy Waters from Mississippi, Mississippi Muddy Waters. Jimmie Rodgers was all original and he and his contemporary Charlie Patton(a mulatto) were the Fathers of the Mississippi Delta Blues. Jimmie Rodgers has directly or indirectly influenced every Blues and Country singer to come after him, Black or White. The country blues was not Black music and as you should know by now, there was no genre of music called Blues until the 1940s. Back before then, back in the 1930s,20s, all the way back into the 19th century there was no genre called Blues or Country. Both Blacks and Whites played music that would now be recognized as Blues or Country. Back then blues/country/fok was just the same thing, there were no genres for that kind of music, there was no distinction to be made. The genres were created later on by the record industry and radio stations for marketing convenience to market music made by Blacks to Blacks and music made by Whites to Whites. It was just the music that poor, rural Southerners played, both Black and White. Both Whites and Blacks sang the blues and played the blues, because back then the Blues was not a genre. When they would say they were singin' the blues or playin' the blues they are talking about a feeling, not a genre. Whites played blues and blacks played blues. It was all just Southern, rural poor folks music, folk music. The Blues and Country as genres didn't start to develop and become distinct from one another until around the 1940s when the record companies dropped the old manufactured terms Hillbilly and Race music and replaced them with the terms Blues/Rhythm and Blues and Country/Country and Western. Until that time there was no such thing as Blues as a separate genre. Blues and Country was the same thing. There was no distinction. In the 19th century there was no such thing as Blues or Country as a separate and distinct genre. There were traveling musicians called Songsters, back before they were called Bluesmen. These songsters were White or Black, there were just as many White songsters as Black ones and they all traveled around from town to town hopping trains, walking and hitching around the South playing their music, literally playing for their supper. The music of both the White and Black songsters at that time was basically just the same thing. Alot of them even played the same old songs and licks that they had picked up who knows where. If you go listen to the earliest recorded Race music and Hillbilly music and the earliest recored Country and Blues music you will hear that there is almost zero distinction. Basically the only difference back then was the race of the performer. They all played the same Folk/Roots music. This early type of American roots music is sometimes called the country blues. It was before there was a separate genre known as Blues or Country. Later, thanks to the record industry, the Country part would become identified with Whites and the Blues part identified with Blacks. Country is White Blues and Blues is Black Country/Folk and vice versa. Later when the Blacks started leaving the country and moving into the cities they started developing a more uh..polished, and ah..slick and urbanized style of playing and singing and began losing that rural country, roots music sound and feel. After the categories/genres of Country and Blues were whipped up by the record industry the Blacks and Whites started to develop more distinct styles from one another. But it's all based in the same American roots music which was a muddled up mix of all American music, of Folk, Old Time, Hillbilly, Spiritual songs(Whites made them too you know, that's why Black spiritual songs are called negro spirituals to set them apart from White spiritual songs), Gospel, Work Songs(Whites sang work songs too ya know. They were out there picking cotton and swinging the railroad pick or on the chain gang and singing songs to boost morale and make the day go by better too ya know, most Whites never owned a single slave and picked their own damn cotton and went up and down the rows singin' songs), and later, Dixieland/Jazz. All 20th century American music is rooted in this American roots music. All poor, Southern countryboy Songsters went around the South playin' the country music, playin' and singin' the blues. Later the genres of Blues and Country were manufactured by record labels and from then on out the Black Bluesmen and White Country singers began to develop more distinct styles. Jimmie creating a new form called the blue yodel. His producer gave him that nickname, because he would Yodel and sing blue songs. But remember, back then there was no such thing as a genre known as the blues that came later. Everyone would sing the blues, it was a feeling, an emotion, a sad, depressed, lonely sounding type of song. Poor, rural, White and Black Southerners went around playing blue songs, everyone called low, sad, lonely type songs a blue song or blues songs, because they were singing about feeling blue, you had to feel blue to play blue, you had to have the blues to play the blues! And the blues was not a separate genre back then. Jimmie Rodgers as I've already told you is actually considered a pioneer of what would become known as the genres called Blues AND Country. He has directly or indirectly influenced every single Black Bluesman, White Country musician and Rock and Roll/Rock musician to come after him. He is considered the single most important figure next to Charlie Patton(a mulatto songster) in the development of what would come to be known as the Mississippi Delta Blues. He was a big influence on later Black Bluesmen like Muddy Waters and Howlin' Wolf and they'd tell you that themselves and have said so in interviews. Howlin' Wolf himself said he copied his Howl vocal style after Jimmie Rodger's Blue Yodel and Muddy Waters thought of the idea for his stage name while listening to Rodger's Mississippi River Blues. He shaped the course of both the genres that are now known as Blues and Country. That's why he even has a marker on the famous Mississippi Blues Trail and it says for his importance to the development of the Blues and in particular the Mississippi Delta Blues because he was from Mississippi. Jimmie Rodgers was no immitator, he was a true pioneer and innovator and was a huge influence on the development of both the Blues and Country genres. Any serious, old school Black Bluesman would tell you that. Speaking of Jimmie Rodgers, here, this one is just for you Unido, Unregistere and Four Eyes, I know you'll like it. It is Jimmie Rodger's Blue Yodel #9, recorded in 1930. I am posting this for you guys because I know you will enjoy it because that is a young Louis Armstrong playing the horn. It is as far as I know, the first example of a country(there was no country genre in 1930), or blues(was no blues genre in 1930 either) musician incorporating a Dixieland horn sound into a song. I post this just especially for you my friends, enjoy.;) Now you'll find my name on the tail of my shirt, I'm a Tennessee hustler and I don't have to work:rofl [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxqUgFFSFRQ[/YOUTUBE] I'm also pretty sure this may be the first gangsta song. I think the lyrical content had a big influence on gangsta rappers. Jimmie Rodgers was a straight up OG hustler guys :rofl [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa_a7cUjC4o&feature=related[/YOUTUBE] Oh what the heck, here's one more of my favorite Jimmie Rodgers tunes while I'm at it [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5W7q8IsnPs&feature=related[/YOUTUBE] Oh and by the way the first Blues composition to be published and recorded was by a White, German-American from Oklahoma in 1912, it was called Dallas Blues(by Hart Wand). It was very popular at the time and had a big impact on the development of popular music. People were singing and playing Hart Wand's Dallas Blues all up and down the Mississippi River and across the South. [I] ----------------------------------------------------- Bill Monroe father of bluegrass Bill Monroe was not the first to play the style we now call Bluegrass. He himself has said in numerous interviews that he didn't by any means invent the Bluegrass sound and wasn't the first to do it. He was just the first big star of that style and the one to really start taking it mainstream and so the style was named after his band, the Bluegrass Boys and that's why people sometimes call him the father of bluegrass, but he himself said he's flattered by the title but it's not really true that people had been playing like that since before him. Also an avid guitarist by the age of 12, Monroe's developing instrumental style was likewise shaped by the African-American musical traditions/teachings of black fiddler/guitarist Arnold Schultz. Music historians credit Schultz with putting the blues in bluegrass. Says who? Some dumbass obviously. Monroe blended these two styles into his own, a combination of the raw tonalities of Negro blues and the lonesome sound of the mountain modal ballads. Says who? Some dip shi#. Bill Monroe played a few jam sessions with a negro fiddler and now you're trying to make it sound like he taught Bill Monroe everything he knew:rolleyes: BS. Making mountains out of molehills and making crap up after Bill Monroe has been dead for 12 years is all this is, revisionism to try and perpetuate this myth of the magical musical negro who just shows up out of the clear blue, teaches this White boy everything he knows, then disappears, and the White boy he supposedly influences so much never even mentions him within his lifetime, this stuff is discovered after he's dead and gone, uh huh. No one believes that some random little negro fiddle player had such a big impact on Bill Monroe, because he didn't. Where the hell would a negro fiddle player in the Kentucky Hills of all places have learned to play the Irish fiddle in the first place?. From White Hillbillies, of course. Not too many Black folks in those Kentucky Hills back then...still aren't today. (It is rumored that shortly after Monroe's years of tutelage, Schultz was murdered, given poisoned whiskey by fellow musicians jealous of his talent.) I'm so sad. Years of tutelage my ass, says who exactly? Hm...I wonder...probably some musicologist named Levin or Cohen is my best guess... But anyhow, Robert Johnson was supposedly killed by poisoned Whiskey too, but because he had been cheating with some other guy's woman and he found out and poisoned his half pint of whiskey that he used to drink before every show. There's a little trivia for ya. In Bill Monroes own words on Bluegrass music... It's got a hard drive to it. It's Scotch bagpipes and old-time fiddlin'. It's Methodist and Holiness and Baptist. It's blues and jazz and it has a high lonesome sound. It's plain music that tells a story. It's played from my heart to your heart, and it will touch you. – Bill Monroe and?? Is this supposed to upset me? White people started Jazz and by now you should already know where the blues comes from. I've still never heard any Jazz influence on Bluegrass anyways, they never use horns. I think they just say that because they improvise alot like in Jazz. The Carter Family the first family of country music [i]When Riddle traveled with A.P., he acted as a human recorder by learning the songs and teaching them to Sara and Maybelle. Riddle's guitar work influenced the playing of Maybelle Carter who incorporated Riddle's blues lick into her style. Maybelle's guitar style became the famous Carter Scratch. That's a real big fat lie right there. That Riddle negro was nothing but a tag-a-long who helped them keep track of songs on song finding trips, just a hang around. He did NOT teach Maybelle her signature Carter Scratch, he didn't have anything to do with it. She has talked about how she developed her Carter Scratch in countless interviews and I've never heard her in her own words say anything about some random negro named Riddle teaching her a damned thing. She developed her style all on her own, she was all original. You're telling straight out slanderous lies. Once again, the modern anti-White myth of the magical musical negro who pops up out of the clear blue in racist Hillbilly territory, teaches some White person everything they know, then disappears without hardly a trace and the person who they supposedly influenced or taught so much never even mentions them. This stuff is discovered(made up completely or extremely exaggerated) by some anti-White Jewish,, Commie or Black so-called music historian after they're dead and gone. They have an anti-White agenda. Uh huh, sure buddy, why not. Maybelle came up with her Carter Scratch all on her own. She never says anything about that negro when she talks about how she developed that famous signature style of hers in interviews. He was just the Carter Family's pet negro and human tape recorder.:D:D:p
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Re: black culture
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As I've stated in many threads... Peanut butter. Only good thing to come from the ape men. Actually, the Aztecs made the first peanut butter. That's another Black Invention Myth.:)
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Re: black culture
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Yes, because you do not understand it.:D And you people do not understand Classical music.:D
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Re: black culture
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[quote=Unido;6038975][quote=-The Patriot-;6036627] Who was covering whose music and songs.:rolleyes: Rock Around the clock ,that introduced rock and roll to white America, by Bill Haley was a cover Big Joe Turners Rock Around the clock. Now who is the man.:D So it was Big Joe Turner who ripped off Hank Williams' Move It On Over then and not Bill Haley? :D Because Rock Around the Clock ripped the melody from Move It On Over, go have a listen to the two and you'll hear the similarity right away, you can't miss it.
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Re: black culture
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[quote=ColonelHogan;6045460][quote=-The Patriot-;6044080][quote=Four Eyes;6038321][quote=-The Patriot-;6038154][quote=Four Eyes;6036834][quote=-The Patriot-;6036620] Maybellene was not a slight rework of Ida Red. umm...yeah, Maybellene is a rock n' roll version of Ida Red with altered lyrics. It was influenced by it and used a completely different chord progression. Sounds pretty darn similar to me. And the only reason he was called a hillbilly was because people thought he had a white sounding voice. And just a White sound in general. Yeah, and some people thought Elvis had a Black sounding voice. Berry was initially marketed in the Hillbilly aka White category because the record industry thought he was just too good to put in the Race category because they wouldn't make as much money. So they didn't put his picture on his records and marketed him to Whites in the Hillbilly category to make more money. No one could tell that he was Black because his music sounded like Hillbilly music. Everyone thought he was White, that is until they showed up to see him in concert :rofl What's that ni##er doin' on stage? Where's the real Chuck Berry?:eek::rofl It was actually Blacks who started calling him the Black Hillbilly because he would play concerts with a fully Black audience and play alot of Country/Hillbilly songs. His guitar playing was blues influenced. The only rock n roll guitarists who used hillbilly guitar techniques were Scotty Moore and Cliff Gallup. They were just playing black music with black techniques. Although Cliff Gallup was influenced by jazz a lot more than hillbilly .oh blah blah blah, same o' shi#! :D Chuck Berry was called the Black Hillbilly because he played Hillbilly music and his biggest influences were Country/Hillbillly/Bluegrass musicians. He had every Bill Monroe song memorized. That's why they even marketed him to a White audience in the Hillbilly aka White category instead of usual Race music, and everyone assumed he was White by his sound. But whatever you think is true, my friend.
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Re: black culture
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[quote=ColonelHogan;6048040][quote=-The Patriot-;6047708][quote=ColonelHogan;6045460][quote=-The Patriot-;6044080][quote=Four Eyes;6038321][quote=-The Patriot-;6038154] His first album had many blacks on the cover. That's not a Chuck Berry album, it's a soundtrack for a movie. Look at the track listing. I Knew From The Start - The Moonglows Would I Be Crying - The Flamingos Maybellene - Chuck Berry Sincerely - The Moonglows Thirty Days - Chuck Berry The Vow - The Flamingos You Can't Catch Me - Chuck Berry Over And Over Again - The Moonglows Roll Over Beethoven - Chuck Berry I'll Be Home - The Flamingos See Saw - The Moonglows A Kiss From Your Lips - The Flamingos I'm talking about his singles. The industry back then was all about singles, not full albums. This you are talking about was 1956, I'm talking about before that when he released his first singles. White people all assumed he was White. Alot of people got a shock when they showed up to see a Chuck Berry concert and found out he's a negro. But, I really don't care much about Chuck Berry one way or another. Leave it up to a Black guy to do a song called my ding a ling :rolleyes::rolleyes:
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Re: black culture
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[quote=ColonelHogan;6047254][quote=-The Patriot-;6045356] Move It On Over ripped the melody from Kansas City Blues by Jim Jackson. liar:rolleyes: stop telling lies, negro. everyone knows it is negroes who are the real thieves:D Those two songs don't sound that similar. Oh and for the person on here who tried to say that Maybelle Carter of the Carter Family learned her famous Carter Scratch technique from a negro....nah, sorry, stop telling lies. Hear it from Maybelle Carter herself...here she is talking about how she developed that style. No negro taught her the Carter Scratch, she taught it to him!!:p Sound Clips http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/me/20030704.me.guitar1.ram
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Re: black culture
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so music is the only culture they really have? where did it go wrong? where is the fine dining? the majestic artwork? the kingly clothing? why defend so heavily blacks involvement in music and not the other parts of thier culture? Music is the only culture Blacks can ever talk about. And always American music, never anything actually from Africa;)
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Re: black culture
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African American culture Polyrhythm Traditional African music, particularly that of West Africa, is known for its highly complex polyrhythms and, unlike the examples given below, the downbeats do not usually coincide. Rhythms and counter rhythms evidence the common African cultural tradition of call and response, with different drum lines, other musical instruments, bodies and voices contributing rhythmic elements that complement and communicate with one another. This element of instrumental, as well as vocalized, call and response is also evident in the polyrhythmic quality of jazz, a musical form with its origins in the African American community. African American music is rooted in the typically polyrhythmic music of the ethnic groups of Africa, specifically those in the Western, Sahelean, and Sub-Saharan regions. African oral traditions, nurtured in slavery, encouraged the use of music to pass on history, teach lessons, ease suffering, and relay messages. The African pedigree of African American music is evident in some common elements: call and response, syncopation, percussion, improvisation, swung notes, blue notes, the use of falsetto, melisma, and complex multi-part harmony. http://webhollis.com/albums/Funny-Fo...t_A_Cookie.jpg Whatever you say, chief. The African pedigree of African American music is evident in some common elements: call and response, syncopation, percussion, improvisation, swung notes, blue notes, the use of falsetto, melisma, and complex multi-part harmony. <<that's funny because all of that stuff is present in traditional European music too. Especially the so-called blue notes, Irish and British Folk music is just full of those blue notes, except they call them bent notes or long notes I think. Once again....all they can talk about is moosic.:D No, I really want to hear some music FROM AFRICA , not some supposed African influence that was supposedly imported to America and intermingled with European styles(there is no African influence in American music, Blacks were completely acculturated before they ever left the plantations). I want to hear some real AFRICAN MUSIC, you know, from Africa, not America. I especially would like to hear some African traditional music that sounds even remotely similar to Blues, Jazz or Rock n' Roll. :D I also want examples of Black culture that don't have to do with American music. Which...either way you want to look at it...even if there really was an African influence on certain genres of American music, there is still always a European influence too so if anything that would make it just American music, not really White or Black, not African or European. So still not true Black culture or Black music in it's purest form. I'm looking for a real, authentic, uncut slice of Africanness here, Jack. :p
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Re: black culture
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Black culture. Hmm, give me a while...... :D Face it, we White people just cannot compete with this:( They are so much more cultured than us. This is what culture is all about. http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/..._470x313,0.jpg http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/voodoo-1.jpg http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...voodoo-461.jpg http://www.pacificislandtravel.com/s...n/people77.jpg http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...03zulu_afp.jpg http://cache.virtualtourist.com/1501...baby-Jinka.jpg http://img2.photographersdirect.com/...m/pd742827.jpg http://www.ezakwantu.com/Lip%20Plugs.jpg
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Re: black culture
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What are they doing in that top photo? building a sand castle? Where I got it from, it said they were doing some sort of voodoo ritual.
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Re: black culture
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Is it the god of bottled water? It could very well be. I know they worshipped a coca-cola bottle on the Gods Must Be Crazy :D http://www.teachwithmovies.org/guide...i-DVDcover.jpg http://images.google.com/url?q=http:...fUASgtieXAQiXg
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Re: Most whites don't have a problem with other races
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I don't associate with race traitors, if that is what you mean. Which is why America is becoming third world, morons like you. 'We're all the same, it doesn't matter if you're black or white:rolleyes:Well it does matter. Us people? So you mean White people who actually are proud of being White and are opposed to genocide? Well where I am from in Michigan, people DO care if you are Black or White. I can go into the bar and make a ni**er joke and everyone will laugh, nobody cares, we're not really such a small minority, maybe you're from San Francisco or something?I hope you're open to learning new things like Espanol, or memorizing the Koran, or living in a third world country, yep...good thing you are open to new ideas alright. Since when do I hate Blacks? You misunderstand, my confused friend. Well most Blacks do hate White people whether you choose to accept this thing called reality or not. Most Black parents do teach THEIR children to hate Whitey, so do the Mexicans. Keep living with your head in the sand. Have fun when the Mexicans take over your neighborhood and kick you to the curb stupid little gringo. This Mexico now holmes go back to England blue eyes, ain't chu heard pendejo?? Yes, and look how much nicer it was back then...hm...I wonder why??? I guess you like living in a shi# hole and having your daughter get knocked up by a negro and having your race go extinct(assuming you're White), have fun when you are flying under the Mexican flag or living under sharia law, yes, have fun, and remember, we told you so moron.
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Re: Most whites don't have a problem with other races
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As a white male, there are some things that most people do not agree with such as affirmative action. I see... However, this does not mean that all black people are bad. Of course not, whoever said they were? They are a part of society whether you want to kill them with a race war or not, so learn to deal with it or move to Antarctica. It is them who are attacking, killing, robbing, and raping US....in case you haven't realized...seen the Black on White crime statistics lately? Especially Black on White rape? Better put your seatbelt on because it is very alarming:eek: Besides, it is OUR country, if anyone is going to leave, it would be them. Not us. If you want me to get technical...technically non Whites don't even have the right to be American citizens, go check out the original naturalization and immigration acts of this country such as the Naturalization Act of 1790 read about the requirements for becoming an American citizen, it says free WHITE men of good moral standing no exceptions. Also the 14th ammendment was never properly ratified, it is null and void, but nobody cares anymore...But that is just if you want me to get all technical... Now why on God's green Earth would you assume we want to kill all Black people in America is that what you are suggesting? That is some nerve you have! We are not about killing anyone, sorry try again. Another separate issue: How is this site any different from the Jew media? 99.9% of the messages get blocked anyways by the simpleminded mods on here so you lemmings only hear part of the message How am I a lemming? To explain, please, I just do not understand, what is it that makes ME the lemming? I believe it is the other way around sir. I can't speak for what type of messages the mods block but it doesn't appear that they block 99.9%, I'm sure there are alot of retarded ramblings of teenagers that get filtered out , of course. But from what I have seen most of the Opposing Views always get approved and posted, why wouldn't we let you dumbskis rant and rave and make yourselves sound stupid? What do we have to be afraid of? That we will be proven wrong? Why do the other guys like to suppress our point of view ? It can only be because we are right..you think about that? If we're all the brainwashed lemmings then what are the powers that be so afraid of? Why are they so afraid of us naming the jew:D How many liberal sites do you know of with Opposing Views sections?? Does the ADL or SPLC site have an Opposing Views section by chance?:cool:[/quote]
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Re: Church plea to avoid BNP 'like the plague'
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To Hell with the Church ! :mad: White people need to avoid the Church like the plague that it truly is. Nothing but a bunch of crooked swindlers in league with the globalists. Note to Christian readers: Criticizing the Church is not the same as criticizing your religion. There is a big difference..... people need to realize that...
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Re: Latin American Societies: Is Race an Issue?
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...from the Stormfront Quotations subforum. :roflYep, alot of people don't realize that Che Guevara was a White man. An Argentine of Basque and Irish descent. He wasn't a spic. Too bad he had to be a damn leftist, we could've used a revolutionary of his calibur on the right, or better yet in the middle. . . Left and Right are old news. The first thing to note is that in my son's veins flowed the blood of the Irish rebels , the Spanish conquistadores and the Argentinean patriots . Evidently Che inherited some of the features of our restless ancestors. There was something in his nature which drew him to distant wanderings, dangerous adventures and new ideas.” — Ernesto Guevara Lynch , Che's Father
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Re: Latin American Societies: Is Race an Issue?
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I know what you mean, I have dark brown hair and brown eyes and most of my ancestry has been traced back to Ireland and Germany and I'm even part Swedish... I must get my darker complection from my grandmother, she's what they would call Black Irish , an Irish person with a more Mediterranean look. I've seen pictures of her from when she was young and she looked a bit similar to Catherine Zeta-Jones who is Welsh/Irish. Supposedly that look comes from there being Iberian ancestry in the Irish and Welsh gene pools. There's some stuff about that on here Celtic nations such as Scotland and Ireland have more in common with the Portuguese and Spanish than with the Celts of central Europe, according to a new academic report. ... Historians believed the Celts, originally Indo-European, invaded the Atlantic islands in a massive migration 2500 years ago. But using DNA samples from people living in Celtic nations and other parts of Europe, geneticists at the university have drawn new parallels. Dr Bradley said it was possible migrants moved from the Iberian peninsula to Ireland as far back as 6000 years ago up until 3000 years ago.
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Re: Latin American Societies: Is Race an Issue?
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So we just happen to attract all the scum of Mexican society. Great. And liberals make it easy for idiots to come here and prosper. Well it's good to know there is some decency in Mexico. We seem to attract the scum of every society....The ones coming to America I've found are usually the unwanted dregs, criminals, losers, the most immoral and degenerate etc... Of these foreign countries, the USA is like the dump where all of these foreign countries can send their unwanted and unneeded trash to :rolleyes: And the stupid liberals and ZOG welcome these bums with open arms. Just like the inscription on the plaque on the Statue of Liberty says : Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door! Yes...those are just the kind of cockroaches we want here in our country just great. And that inscription wasn't added until 1912, and it was a JEWISH woman who wrote it, surprise surprise huh....:rolleyes::rolleyes:
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Re: Disintegration of USA by 2010: Former KGB member predicts.
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This will never happen, the USA is a powerful country and it will NOT fall apart. :clink :roflThat's what the USSR thought...That's what the Roman Empire thought... The USA is HISTORY!
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Re: Latin Americans: What Do You catalog them in?
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Personally I would like to know what is your opinion on latin americans? Some of them are good people and I like them. Some of them are cockroaches in humanoid form and I do not like them... Do you like them? Some of them. Will you ever marry one of them? Maybe if they were White. What are they cataloged in? There are Latin Americans of all races. The majority are mongrels. But tens of millions of them are Whites of European heritage. I'm sure there are non-White Latin Americans who are good people. But they are not my people, I'm mainly just concerned with the ones who are White:)
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Re: Famous negro leaders in America
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Colin Powell was Secretary of State, four star General and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The same Colin Powell who has a significant amount of Irish, Scottish and even Ashkenazi JEWISH ancestry? ;) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...p_Scheffer.jpg Just look his skin is barely any darker than the White man standing to his right. Great example of a Black man. It seems like all of the successful Black people are always half breeds and quadroons. Except for the ones who are successful because they are good at sports or are singers and rappers hawked by the media 24-7.
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Re: Famous negro leaders in America
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[quote=Good Sense;6063605] I don't care for White Supremacists, so I talk about KKK violence alot. So maybe you could tell me the last time an active member of the KKK has been convicted of the murder of a Black person?? When was it? Just curious. I'm quite sure that the last time a Black gang member was convicted of the murder of a White person was maybe...yesterday? today? everyday?
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Re: Famous negro leaders in America
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He was born and raised in Harlem, New York City's Black ghetto. Appearances are deceiving. I'm a Jew of Russian descent, but everyone that meets me for the first time assumes I'm Italian. I don't care where he was raised. The fact IS that he has a significant amount of Irish, Scottish and Ashkenazi ancestry. Look it up. And it is very obvious from his appearance.:)
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Re: Wore my kilt for the first time outside of a Celtic event (to the store)
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There is no way I would ever wear a skirt :p
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Re: What has White nationalism done to help anyone?
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There are many different White Nationalist/White Separatist groups with varying different views. But...one thing we stand united on is that we aim to preserve the White race and culture and we believe that traditionally and rightfully White countries should remain if nothing else at least majority White and dominated by Whites if not 100%White. No non White foreigners should be able to come into a traditionally and rightfully White country such as the US, Canada, Australia or Europe and be able to take over our corporations, our government, media, neighborhoods....etc.... White people and White countries should be in control of their own destinies we don't need foreign aliens in the driver's seat of OUR countries. We also recognize that the policy of so called multi culturalism is extremely detrimental to the racial and cultural purity of the White race, to deny any race or ethnic group/culture the right to a homeland relatively free of foreign influence is a form of genocide. The White race and culture cannot and will not ultimately survive when every single one of our traditionally and rightfully White home countries are being FLOODED by tens of MILLIONS of non White, third world foreigners, many of which are extremely hostile, criminal, and disease ridden. We don't need them nor want them and they are only a negative thing for our race, culture, way of life and countries. Depending on your definition of White Supremacist I may or may not be one. The prior criminals thing may be due to the fact that many young delinquent White men become introduced to racial realities while serving time. Also, any decent upstanding true White Nationalist is completely and utterly opposed to criminal behavior and drug use, many WNs are police officers and such... Well most of us are not like that...at least..I know I'm not. And all of my fellows WNs who I know personally most certainly are not, and most people I've come across online here on SF sure are not either. We are simply very concerned with the survival of our race, culture and way of life, and very concerned with the fact that we are the only race of people on the planet being denied the right to our own homeland relatively free of foreign influence, and being denied the right to be in control of our own destiny as a people. All of our corporations, banks, government positions etc....Either already are....or are in the process of being overtaken by non White foreigners. This does not sit well with people like us......and I don't see how it could sit well with any decent, patriotic White person..... Keyword being....claims. Maybe he is genuine, or maybe he is a poser. Please do not judge the entire WN movement at large based on a few random rather shady individuals, I assure you that there is no gas chamber in my basement and I am a rather ordinary (ok so I'm not that ordinary:D) and decent White American Patriot.
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Re: Why do blacks think us Irish should be on your side?
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[quote=CelticRose;6128713] she was like blacks and irish has a lot of things in common, we both suffered discrimination and we both had to fight for our rights as citizens. Well, it is true though. The Irish were worked over by the British, oppressed and used as slaves and servants for hundreds of years, and in their own country. They even shipped several thousand Irishman to colonies in the Americas to work as slave labor and as servants. Many of the first Irish to come to the USA came as indentured servants, butlers, housemaids, and such, and later earned their freedom. In some cases in colonies in the Caribbean there were Irish Catholics who were forced to work as slave labor side by side with negroes. That's why alot of WASPs used to call the Irish, white ni**ers. When alot of them started showing up in America in the 19th and into the early 20th century they were mostly confined to ghettoes, no one would hire them, all of the help wanted signs would say NINA(No Irish Need Apply), and so many of them turned to crime, they started America's first real street gangs and first organized crime syndicates, even before the Italians. Many of them would start making alot of money as criminals and wear flashy, bright colored or pinstriped suits and jewelry, some of those old Irish gangsters would strut around in green suits and bowler hats with emerald pinky rings on their fingers and stuff like that:rofl . They were always being discriminated and told they were just a bunch of dumb paddys and slum trash white ni##ers so they would compensate by getting that real cocky, chip on the shoulder attitude and alot of us still have it:D They would give themselves flashy sounding street nicknames like Old Smoke(John Morrissey), Owney the Killer(Owney Madden), Diamond Jim(like Diamond Jim Brady), or Billy the Kid(was born in the Irish slums of NYC then the family headed West,always wore a green band around his hat), the Irish are really the ones who started all that kind of stuff. They were considered low class, dangerous, ghetto/slum people and were stereotyped as being violent and criminally inclined, and often times that was the truth. The history of the Irish and the African-Americans does actually have alot of parallels, we both have a history of our people being enslaved and oppressed and forced into servitude and being discriminated against in America, being stereotyped as violent, dangerous, slum dwelling criminals, etc... Only one big difference...the Irish are White(duh), and you will never hear an Irishman(or woman) bitc* and moan about how their ancestors were oppressed, enslaved, forced into servitude and discriminated against by the WASPs, unlike the Blacks who just can't stop crying about it and throwing a pity party, boo hoo hoo:( You will never hear the Irish use their history as an excuse for being a miserable failure at life, and you will never see the Irish begging for and/or demanding handouts and special treatment, unlike the groids... I am predominantly of Irish descent myself, by the way.:clink
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Re: what should happen to people who murder disabled people trying to be humane
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I mean like someone who kills their relative or whatever who is in constant pain because of tourettes,etc. If someone were to just straight out murder their friend or relative because they had a terminal illness and they could see they were suffering and wanted to end their misery? And just murdered them, as in killed them outright without consent? Well, obviously, they have mental issues and should be charged with murder and/or locked up in a padded room for a very long time. If you are referring to assisted suicide, which is not murder since the subjects requested it and consented to it, like what Dr. Jack Kevorkian did, well in that case I think it should be perfectly legal. Just why the heck not? That is not murder. I know if I were suffering from terminal cancer and was in excruciating pain 24-7 or something of the sort I would just want to be taken out of my misery. And assisted suicide like Dr. Kevorkian did would be a much better and more humane suicide solution than just blowing your brains out with a pistol or cutting your wrist don't you think?
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Re: A statement from a friend prompted me to make a post.
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My friend, who routinely peruses this site, told me that you white supremacists Hold it right there, this is NOT a White Supremacist website, we are White Nationalists and White Separatists. A White Supremacist is someone who wishes to rule over non-Whites, to enslave them, exploit them, oppress them, etc... We don't want any part of that at all. We really don't want anything to do with them, we want to be separated from them, so far removed from them that we couldn't possibly exploit or oppress them. We are racial separatists not supremacists. Well...some supremacist types do however hang around this forum sometimes but since this is not a white supremacist forum they usually end up saying some things that get them banned. apparently do not have any animosity towards Asians in particular. Of course not, not unless they give me a good reason. I don't have any animosity towards anyone because of their race, only because of their actions. If a Black man acts decent then I don't have any problem with him, I just don't want him living within the same neighborhood as me or dating a White girl;) If a Black man is a violent, dangerous, habitual criminal, well then I'd just assume see him hanging from the nearest tree, like any violent, dangerous, habitual criminal of any race.:) Why is this so? If they stay in Asia I have no problem with them whatsoever, I don't even care that they eat cats and dogs, that is their business. :) Also, how would you look upon the product of infedility, in which the participants were a Caucasian man of English descent and a Filipino woman? They are non-White therefore they are not one of us and do not belong in a White society. Would it be a crime for the mixed child to date a fully white man? They can do what they want, just don't expect me to show any respect to a race mixer.:) I want nothing to do with them.
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Re: Why are there so many ''Van in Netherlands?
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Why are there so many trucks in America?
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Re: 4 Black Marines Torture, Rape & Murder White Marine w/ Black Wife:
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IMO...race mixer got what he deserved. Give those Black boys a medal! :eek: Oh well, one less race traitor in the world. boo hoo hoo, I shall cry a river of tears.:(
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Re: Soldier Refuses to go to War
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Can you blame him?? I think you'll see a whole lot more guys do this same thing whenever they try to invade Iran. ;)
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Re: Questions: White birth rates and race-mixing
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Cash and prizes for having babies!!:D They do it in Russia! :clink Reeealllyyy..... No. No. But that's too bad...:o Oh hell yeah! :mad: Why adopt a child of a different race when there are plenty of WHITE orphans??? The Hollywood crowd just does it to be hip and show that they are not racist. They use non White babies like fashion accessories. White person marrying a non White?? That is the very definition of race traitor to the highest degree. Not producing any children does not make one a traitor to the race...But producing non White children DOES.
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Re: N.Y. Gov. Spitzer involved in prostitution ring, newspaper reports (TJB?)
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:rofl:rofl:rofl Lantos...Spitzer...2 down. The rest to go! :cool: PS- :rofl
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Re: Justifications for dislike/hatred of jews?
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Let's look at the the world's largest media companies then: News Corporation - Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and Founder is the non-jew Rupert Murdoch. Rupert Murdoch's mother WAS a Jew, therefore Rupert Murdoch is a Jew. Time Warner - Chairman is the non-jew Richard Parsons. President and CEO is the Jew, Jeffrey Bewkes. Walt Disney - Chairman is the non-jew John E. Pepper, J President and CEO is the Jew, Robert Iger. Bertelsmann - Chairman is the non-jew Carl Bertelsmann Hm...you may be correct about that one. Vivendi - Chairman is Jean-Bernad Lévy, whose name does appear to be jewish. Of course.:rolleyes: However, it turns out that the man who really calls the shots, anyway, as the New York Times eplained in 2003, Sure...sure. And we believe the Jewish owned New York Times too:rolleyes: Viacom - Chairman is the jew Sumner Redstone. Of course. The man behind the scourge that is MTV and BET:rolleyes: Hmmm. So it would appear that the vast majority of those at the top of the food chain in the media business are actually not jews. Sure...sure. Whatever you say;)
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Re: A rant from an anti
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White people have no culture. :roflI'm speechless. You have no brain.
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Re: Canada's Culture?
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Why do immigrants think that they can bring their culture to us..and get away with it? They don't think they can, they know they can. No WHITE people are going to do shi# about it we all know it. I'm very disappointed in them. Most White people these days seem to be more than happy to bend straight over and take it up the butt for any non White, foreign piece of trash that tells them to, if they don't they would be racist and nobody wants that now do they.:rolleyes::rolleyes: It seems like most White people these days would rather die than be labeled a racist by a bunch of negros who's opinion shouldn't matter anyways, it's beyond pathetic. I hope and pray for the Rahowa to begin everyday and night. White revolution is the only solution. Tolerance is suicide. We White Nationalists are the last of a dying breed, the rest of those White people are just mindless, conquered zombies.
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Re: ~What Are You Listening To Right Now?~ part two
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Jerry Reed- Eastbound and Down. Great now i'm going to want to go watch the movie. Darn my Smokey and The Bandit addiction. :rofl HB7 Smokey and the Bandit is Great! So is that song! I've always wanted the soundtrack to that movie so when I'm driving down the highway I can pretend that I am the Bandit:D Come in snowman, ya gotcha ears on boy, we got a smokey on our tail 10-4 :roflLOL
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Re: ~What Are You Listening To Right Now?~ part two
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Poison Arrow by ABC :D I love 80s music. Next on my playlist is Green River from CCR and...Shattered Dreams by Johnny Hates Jazz, another good 80s song.
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Re: ~What Are You Listening To Right Now?~ part two
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''F*ck the Police by Sodom'' Don't fu## the police, be the police! :cool: Don't like the law? Be the law...... But I'm listening to a song called Consolation by the Clan of Xymox.
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Re: Brown eyes in Ireland
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Im not sure who hosted it but your right it was the Basgue they refered to, sorry. I dare say there has been a lot of imigration to and from there over the last thousand or so years but it would have been over a thousand years ago these people came to ireland and not including the last ten years there has been little or no immigrants landing on our shores. well apart from those Turks that came ashore down in the South of the country back in the late 19th century and kidnapped a load of culchie and sold them in to slavery back home, funny bunch. Here is an interesting article.... If you are interested in this subject, I suggest you check out the books, The Origins of the British - A Genetic Detective Story by professional geneticist Stephen Oppenheimer , and Blood of the Isles (published in the United States and Canada as Saxons, Vikings and Celts: The Genetic Roots of Britain and Ireland) by Brian Sykes(professor of human genetics at Oxford) , they are both quite interesting. Myths of British Ancestry http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/a...ls.php?id=7817 new evidence from genetic analysis (see note below) indicates that the Anglo-Saxons and Celts, to the extent that they can be defined genetically, were both small immigrant minorities. Neither group had much more impact on the British Isles gene pool than the Vikings, the Normans or, indeed, immigrants of the past 50 years. The genetic evidence shows that three quarters of our ancestors came to this corner of Europe as hunter-gatherers, between 15,000 and 7,500 years ago, after the melting of the ice caps but before the land broke away from the mainland and divided into islands. Our subsequent separation from Europe has preserved a genetic time capsule of southwestern Europe during the ice age, which we share most closely with the former ice-age refuge in the Basque country . The first settlers were unlikely to have spoken a Celtic language but possibly a tongue related to the unique Basque language. Given the distribution of Celtic languages in southwest Europe, it is most likely that they were spread by a wave of agriculturalists who dispersed 7,000 years ago from Anatolia, travelling along the north coast of the Mediterranean to Italy, France, Spain and then up the Atlantic coast to the British Isles . There is a dated archaeological trail for this. My genetic analysis shows exact counterparts for this trail both in the male Y chromosome and the maternally transmitted mitochondrial DNA right up to Cornwall, Wales, Ireland and the English south coast. Further evidence for the Mediterranean origins of Celtic invaders is preserved in medieval Gaelic literature. According to the orthodox academic view of iron-age Celtic invasions from central Europe, Celtic cultural history should start in the British Isles no earlier than 300 BC. Yet Irish legend tells us that all six of the cycles of invasion came from the Mediterranean via Spain , during the late Neolithic to bronze age, and were completed 3,700 years ago. So, based on the overall genetic perspective of the British, it seems that Celts, Belgians, Angles, Jutes, Saxons, Vikings and Normans were all immigrant minorities compared with the Basque pioneers, who first ventured into the empty, chilly lands so recently vacated by the great ice sheets.
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Re: Senate Votes In Favor Of bailout 75-24
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Apparently Americans are still not angry enough. If they were, I imagine a scene like this right now, with Senators and Congressmen running for their lives. :clinkYou do paint a pretty picture in my mind. Angry mobs of White working class people...politicans and bankers scrambling for their lives...ah...one can only dream... :D http://movietonic.com/hollywood/wp-c..._angry_mob.png
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Re: Why I'm joining
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I was on the fence for a while about joining this forum. However, last semester, my assignment in second-semester English was to watch a Spike Lee movie and write an essay on blackness. No, really. Multiple essays on blackness, actually. I said to hell with it, and dropped out of the class. I'm tired of this agenda being forced on us! AMEN! They won't be happy until we're all kissing the Black and Jews ass and have had our identity and pride completely stripped from us, in our own country! :eek: Screw that. Spike Lee is a truly racist Black man, no doubt about it, I hate his guts. They actually FORCe White people to write essays on blackness whatever that is supposed to be exactly, but what would happen if a White person tried to write a piece about Whiteness? You would probably be expelled and jailed for being a nazi kkk white supremacist anti semitic hate mongering insensitive bigot :rolleyes: I'm glad you've come around to your senses and said enough is too much man, welcome aboard!! :clink White Pride....World Wide! Being White and Proud of it is not a crime! :mad:
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Re: Jewish woman trying to discredit StormFront
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I just find these people very, very disturbing and fascinating at the same time. Yes Anna, we are fascinating aren't we? Glad you've noticed:D They seem to possess no capacity for rational or logical thinking, The feeling is mutal:rolleyes: these people aren't 'evil' people, even though it is easy to label them as such. so clearly they aren't monsters Of course we are not. Last I checked, it was mostly Blacks, Mestizos, Zionists, Islamic extremists, Commies and Liberal, anti racist Anarchist types committing most of the violence, vandalism and doing all of the killing out there in the world... You know, our enemies and opponents. Not WNs and White Separatists. But at the same time they wish for mass extermination or at the very least oppression of other races. Um......no we don't:rolleyes: Stop telling lies, Jew. How on Earth could we oppress other races when we were completely separated from them? We want absolutley nothing to do with them. We don't want to be near enough to them to oppress them. What is so hard to understand about that? I also find the sheer amount of them disturbing. As I type this there are 1500 of them online!!!! And just think, most White racialists do not even have accounts here on SF. Many are too paranoid to start an account here, they are in sensitive occupations such as law enforcement or military for instance and don't want to risk posting on here, they post on other pro-White forums instead, they do not even know of Stormfront, or do not have internet or have the time or will to post regularly on an internet forum. What you see on SF is just the very tip of the iceberg.:D
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Re: SF members who don't put their ACTUAL location under their avatars irritates me..
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I have no problem mentioning my state, Michigan. I am from south eastern Michigan, a little too close to Detroit and Flint for comfort but oh well. I just prefer to list my location as OCCUPIED TERRITORY for symbolic reasons. Alot of people don't think of it in that context, they don't realize that the US is an OCCUPIED COUNTRY. Zionist Jews occupy the highest levels of our government, banks, corporations, and media. And on the ground we are occupied by MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of MEXICAN citizens, and other non Whites who don't belong here......... But I mention I'm from the Detroit area on here all the time, but not for long....I'm leaving in a few months, new job....... :cool:
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Re: SF members who don't put their ACTUAL location under their avatars irritates me..
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I live in Hong Kong. Really? It says you live in the former USA, like me. Hong Kong is swell this time of year though. I mean....if you don't mind all the chinks. :cool: But they didn't bother me.
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Re: SF members who don't put their ACTUAL location under their avatars irritates me..
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I am just fooling around, in the spirit of the thread. Tomorrow I am going to live in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia. BAD CHOICE! YIKES! :eek: lol
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Re: SF members who don't put their ACTUAL location under their avatars irritates me..
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Too bad G-man I am not telling you where I am. Maybe I'm in Cannada or the UK or USA or maybe deep up in ya arse?:rofl Anybody who wants to know where you are posting from can find out easily enough anyways. Those feds and ADL people can find out just by tracing your IP address and things like that, so it doesen't really matter.
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Re: NBA: Dallas Mavericks fire vaunted black NBA coach after blowing another playoff
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NBA= Negro(or uh...what's that other word that eludes me...) Basketball Association. I wish I could still watch basketball but sadly...I cannot. I refuse to watch a bunch of ghetto lowlife nigros stuff a ball through a hoop. Now if only they'd fire all Black NBA players and coaches....:)
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Re: The Nazi's burned books.
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Burning books that are invaluable possessions to other people is a bit different than burning books given to you in an attempt to convert you to another religion, is it not? What do you think would happen if a bunch of White people went out and started burning Torahs....... Would be a different story then huh? What if a bunch of Germans started burning piles of Torahs and Talmuds :D Hitler burned books written by Jews that he did not approve of. I'm sure they probably burned every copy of the Talmud and Torah they could find in Germany too wouldn't surprise me. So I don't see how this is different, only you see a difference because you're a Jew and Jews can do whatever they want, you are one of God's chosen ones:rolleyes: The good ole' Zion Nazis in Israhell are at it again.......
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Re: Why???
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[quote=Masque of the red death;5832627] McCain is a white Unfortunately. honest Are you kidding me?:rolleyes: Brave Why? Because he crashed his plane like a moron and was held prisoner in the Hanoi Hilton? , Loyal Only to his Zionist masters and the almighty dollar. I don't know much about ZOG conspiracy theories It is no theory. Amerikwa is under Zionist control. and the like but what i do know is it will be diabolical if Obama gets elected. He's no worse than McCain. A black man Half Black man who was raised in a White family. in the hot seat could spell disaster for white/Non-black America, Can't get much worse than it is already, but I hope it does, the Amerikwans deserve it. What gives you the idea that McAmnesty gives a flying crap about White people?(he doesn't), and the same Zionist policies will be carried out no matter who is in the Oval Office, they must obey their masters. The most powerful man in the kingdom is not the king but the king maker, the man who stands behind the throne and whispers in the king's ear, the one you don't see. I have heard about the It must get worse before it gets better scenario and to be perfectly honest , I am not very convinced by it. Well it's going to get worse either way you wanna look at it. What i do know is that the future cannot be predicted and getting Obama elected could actually hasten the end of White America Can't get any worse. White America is pretty much dead as we speak, those Amerikwans are all busy watching their rap music videos on MTV right about now and saluting an Israeli flag and a dollar sign statue or something. and start a new era of Minority politics. Are you willing to take that chance?. Every now and then...I just like to say what the Hell, and roll the dice. No matter what , McCain is a HONEST WHITE MAN ,NO HE IS NOT!! You're either a neo con troll or a moron, or both. He is a lying, low life, Zionist ass kissing, sack of shi#. He doesn't give a crap about White people anymore than Obama, he loves Mestizos apparantly and he is a two faced lying snake. You obviously don't know Juan McAmnesty. even if he is a bit misguided Yeah, just a bit. He wants to invade the world and invite the world, at the expense of working class White Americans. Sounds like our guy!:rolleyes: and will be million times better than a Half breed Black who has no experience at all. I think he'd be even worse. I simply cannot come to terms with the fact that some WNS are actually supporting Obama I'm not supporting Obama, I'm just not supporting that scumbag McCain and would rather see Obama win. I am left with no choice. over a man who has give n everything for his country What did he give exactly? and actually LOVES AMERICA. If he loves America so much why does he want it to turn into Mexico? You sir, are an imbecile. McCain is an anti American piece of shi#. He apparantly loves Mexico and Israel more than the USA. He cares nothing about working class White people, or any working class people of any race. He wants to start WW3. He wants to send our very last few remaining manufacturing and technology jobs over to Asia, and import non White foreigners for everything else. He is a two faced, lying, smart alek, war mongering, imperialist, corporate, Zionist piece of dung, who is the exact opposite of what America is supposed to stand for. He is no friend of ours. He is absolutely no better than Obama, in fact, IMO he's much worse. McCain is a traitor to his country and his race, what's the penalty for treason? Whatever it is that's what he deserves because he is a traitor to the highest degree. Just because he is biologically White doesn't mean shi#. He's just giving White people a bad name. Your views See above.
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Re: Picture of MASSIVE Obama rally
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LOL:rofl. Whenever I see all the brain dead white traitors in the crowd at the Obama rallies it's just like watching sheep being lead into the killzone by the wolf. :rolleyes:
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Re: Picture of MASSIVE Obama rally
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oh my God...that picture from Flash War makes me want to throw up. What's wrong with the people in Idaho????:confused: Like people have been saying though....you don't see so many whites in the crowd at Obama rallies in places with more black population. But in places that are mostly white like Idaho he gets more white support. It is because they are brainwashed by the media to be sure, but also because they haven't been properly introduced to the homus ******us species yet. Wait until they get their first real taste of 'diversity' and black culture.... They will be wishing they never bought into the shi#, they will be wishing they had cast a vote for Tom Metzger or David Duke instead :rofl Ignorance is bliss.
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Re: Jews, Scapegoat?
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Jews use WASPs, so-called white supremacists, Muslims and basically anyone else who isn't Jewish as their scapegoats. You seem to be mixed up. Some idiots out there still actually think that White gentiles control America and the Western world:rolleyes::rolleyes: Nope, those days are long gone. It's the Zionist and Marxist Jews running the show.
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Re: Jews, Scapegoat?
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[quote=mnviking;6075081] I have never understood why Jews enrage some of you guys. Stick around. Do some research perhaps. I am not a Nazi, nor a follower, I'm not a member of the NSDAP either. I hear Jews=Media, Pretty much. well this may be true but do they completely dominate media values? Yes. they assimilate What world are you living in??
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Re: White Superstate
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What do you think of a large one white state? Who supports the idea of unity of all white people under one governance? I don't know about one super state and government to rule us all..all of the White Nations and cultures of the world are unique and distinct and require a degree of Sovereignty. But I do support some sort of a World Wide Union of all White Nations. :clink Hopefully one day it will be reality. Some have referred to such an entity as the Western(White) Imperium.
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Re: Blacks and Hispanics will destroy this country
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That would make sense seeing as there are more Whites in America. Right? What we're talking about is proportion here, percentage. You're talking about raw numbers I assume. What percentage of Whites in America are on welfare? Now what percentage of Blacks and Mestizos? Do the math please. Also, alot of the Whites actually you know..deserve it. They don't use it as their first option like the Blacks and Browns do. It's a last resort. That's what it's for.
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Re: Important question on genetics
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I wonder if the blacks in the north US/europe in 10,000 years from now will automatically start to become white naturally. What makes you think there will be any Blacks in America or Europe in 10,000 years from now?:D And seeing as the Arabs and Caucasoids have been living in places like Arabia, northern Africa and mesopotamia(Iraq) for many thousands of years, regions that are hotter and sunnier than sub-Saharan Africa, and still haven't become Black I am doubting that evolution works that way.
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Re: Why do you advertise yourselves as nationalists?
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That's great. I don't condone random violence directed at any of these aforementioned groups, actually. You assume too much. Then all of your schooling sure hasn't made you any smarter. Move to China and see if they consider you to be Chinese:rolleyes: Better yet move to the Congo and see if they consider you to be just as Congolese as them...They'd probably just kill you and eat you for dinner. English is an ethnicity, it's in the blood, only an Englishman can be English, not an African....Not a Paki.....:rolleyes: It's sad that you think this way, how would your ancestors feel about this I wonder? They'd be ashamed I bet you. Not if they're in Pakistan. It's their country, Britain....is not. I don't tolerate such behaviour. Please, you assume too much. First of all.....Stormfront isn't really a group, it's a website, not everyone on Stormfront has the exact same opinions on every issue. But the official policy of Stormfront does not condone violence in any way shape or form. If you advocate violence on here you will be kicked off. Because not all of us do I don't think. I myself don't hate gay people and want them to die or anything, I just choose not to associate with them and view it as a mental disorder since that's what it is. A mental sickness, a disease. There are many people in this world who deserve to be hated with a passion. But not because of their race or religion, because of their actions. You're welcome mate.
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Re: ~What Are You Listening To Right Now?~ part two
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Wasted Days And Wasted Nights by Freddy Fender :cool: http://search.playlist.com/tracks/wa...reddy%20fender
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Re: ~What Are You Listening To Right Now?~ part two
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Thunder Rolls by Garth Brooks (I just had to be corny and listen to this song because it's been storming out here all night, rained out my bonfire:o) http://search.playlist.com/tracks/ga...hunder%20rolls
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Re: I don't understand the point of WN
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too bad. I also want to make clear: Why do you disagree with White people being in control of their own countries??? What is wrong with it>? OTHER races are more entitled to our WHITE countries than even we are?? That's BS. Traditionally and rightfully WHITE countries(US,Canada,Europe,Australia,NZ,Argentina& Uruguay) should always remain White or at least if nothing else majority White(vast majority), and Whites should be in charge of their OWN countries, no one else should have that right. I as a White man don't expect to move to China and become a Chinese politician so why should they be able to come to White countries and do it? Every race, and cultural/ethnic group on the planet deserves the right to their own land relatively free of foreign influence to maintain their purity of type. To maintain and preserve their race, culture, and way of life, to deny them of this is a form of genocide. This policy of so called multi CULTuralism is ONLY implemented in traditionally and rightfully WHITE countries, no where else. Why?? Is this fair? Just because our White countries are the best we should just have to turn them over to tens of millions of non White foreigners? What would happen if millions of White people showed up in China, or Mexico, or Africa, how do you think they would like that? Why is it White people are the only race on Earth that is denied their right to be in control of their own destiny, of their own countries, why is this? Does this seem fair to you? I don't care who's race is better it's only a matter of opinion. It makes no difference to the cause. Better worse MINE, OURS. I doubt that, you probably just CAUGHT more White thieves because the Black ones do it enough that they have developed mad skillz wit' da five finga discount homie you won't be catching them, they're pros yo. But I don't like white trash any better than I like black trash , I don't like criminals of any race. Hang em' all as far as I'm concerned. Why is it the only successful Black people always live in Western aka White countries?? Where are all the successful Haitians, Jamaicans, and Liberians???:D The more kids the better!! I don't care how they act. They are NOT WHITE. I wish to preserve my PEOPLE from extinction. As any rational and sane creature on this Earth does. Screw your husband's race traiting mother. Black loving skank. Race traitors are scum. Blood. Culture too, because what is the point in having White people who don't act White in the first place? But culture can be re introduced, once the White race is gone it is gone forever... I feel the media is attacking my culture. What is White culture, do you really have to ask? Well I'll tell you what it isn't and that's rap music, spinning hubcaps, gang banging, and break dancing. White culture is everything culturally that has been created by White people, duh... Of course. Do you feel White people have the right to exist???Scientific ones. Just ask Dr. James Watson, the world renowned Nobel Prize winning biologist, one of the discoverers of DNA structure and former Head of the Human Genome Project. Watson was quoted as saying he was inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa as all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours — whereas all the testing says not really.[46] Hunt-Grubbe stated that Watson's hope was everyone is equal but quoted him as having said people who have to deal with black employees find this not true. Furthermore, she suggested that Watson believed you should not discriminate on the basis of colour by quoting him as having said there are many people of colour who are very talented, but don’t promote them when they haven’t succeeded at the lower level.[46] Watson was then attributed as having written there is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so.[46] But I don't give a crap who is superior. It makes no difference to our cause anyways, it is a mute point. The cause is WHITE SURVIVAL. Because the government is against us, the government promotes policies that are detrimental to the White race and culture. They are the ones allowing these Mexicans to invade our country, they are the ones importing all of these non White foreigners, the government is completely corrupted in case you haven't noticed. Depends on how you would define friend. No, not necessarily, I just don't want them dating my daughter, sister, etc..I don't want them living in the same neighborhood, etc...Most of them. Yyyep. There are two types, the annoying ones, and the ones who make you feel like you are in danger of losing your life or being robbed. I feel sorry for them. And there is no such thing as mixed white people, you're either White or you're not, a half White person is not a White person, they are a mongrel. First of all SPANISH people are WHITE. I'm sure all of our Spanish blooded WNs here on SF are going to take offense to that...:rolleyes: Second of all, I don't hate anyone, WN is not about hate, it is about White SURVIVAL. But I feel sorry for mixed race people, it is not their fault that they are mongrels with a confused sense of identity. Define like this . This does not happen alot. Any child of mine who became a race traitor would be dead to me. DEAD. But it will never happen, that is for sure. Very intelligent Black people.....how many do you know? :D Very successful Black people..how many do you know? How did they achieve this success? Affirmative Action? Sports? Music? Stand up? Which is it:D How many successful Blacks are there outside of Western aka White countries?? ;) You can do what you want, but I would consider you the lowest scum on the Earth, a race traitor. Of course you do. You're welcome.:cool:
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Re: I don't understand the point of WN
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Really.....how interesting... Well at least you are not completely retarded. But why doesn't the survival of your own race matter to you? You can be damned sure race matters to all of the non White races, it is only liberalized White people who have been brainwashed into thinking race is a non issue....Third world people make for third world countries...the more Mexicans we have in America the more America starts to resemble Mexico..etc...We don't need them here...They are in no way beneficial to our society. Quite the opposite, typical modern day White people..too busy being too nice to be smart... How is White culture going to survive when our countries are being flooded with tens of millions of non White foreigners who refuse to assimilate? And when the media and government promotes these foreign non White cultures even above our own?? It is just culture that makes us different huh? Well where does culture come from??? Culture is a product of race, race is not a social construct society is a racial construct..... Race is not just about skin color...much more to it than that:rolleyes: Go try telling a paper White skinned Japanese person they are a White person;) Blacks enslaved other Blacks too, you do realize this? All of a sudden the Blacks are saints I see...And the Arabs ? 200 years ago they were still riding around the Arabian desert on camels , living in tents and chopping each other's heads off with scimitars. Not exactly what I would call civilized. Those ancient middle eastern civilizations like the Mesopotamians, Babylonians and Sumerians were not ARAB. Just because they were from the middle east does not make them ethnically Arab, some of them MAY have been Semitic, but not Arab.shi* happens. If the White race was United we would never of had all of these Earth shaking White vs. White wars. We seek to avoid brother wars in the future. Last I checked it isn't White people who are over populating, White people are disappearing, it is all of the Chinese, Indians, Blacks and Mestizo/Mulatto Latin American mongrels doing the over populating...Since when have White people caused all of these animals and plants to go extinct? I don't think we have. Didn't Einstein get credit for creating the atomic bomb? Wasn't Einstein....Jewish? recently? Well lets see...500 years ago White people were playing Classical music on pianos and violins while Blacks were beating on stumps in the jungle...Whites were up in Europe wearing ball room gowns and tuxedos while Blacks were running around naked in the jungle, Whites were building castles and cathedrals while Blacks were building mud and straw huts, Whites were riding around in horse drawn carriages on cobblestone streets while Blacks didn't even have THE WHEEL. :D We have came alot further alright, and it hasn't been that recent. PS- Most Black Africans are STILL running around half naked and living in mud and straw huts...just thought I would mention it... Slaves how? slaves to the taxman? Well who runs the IRS?(Zionist Jews;)), Yes, more power to them indeed!! Now why can't we live the way we want to in OUR own country?? Those Black Africans can do whatever the heck they want in their own country, why can't we? This is OUR country, America,Canada,Europe,Australia etc..belongs to WHITE people, it is our own decision as to whether we should let bazillions of non White foreigners come to our lands, but the government isn't giving us our say, they just keep forcing these third worlders on us. And third world people make for third world countries. I am not scared of people who are different, and I do not dislike them. You seem to be missing the point. This is because they do not know enough about their own race and culture so they adopt the BS rap video culture they see on MTV all day long, they are brainwashed by the media. We are obviously aware of this... Which is why we are White Nationalists and White Separatists, as long as different races are mixed together in the same neighborhoods and as long as little black boys are going to school with little white girls and being told they are all the same then race mixing is innevitable. Therefore the extinction of the White race is innevitable. Well now you're catching on! Non Whites are not necessarily the problem, they are just a symptom of the greater disease. They're not the cause only a side effect, without the globalists, social marxists aka liberals, socialists, neo cons, Zionists, greedy corporate types etc..We wouldn't have all of these people in our countries in the first place, we wouldn't have all of these problems. The powers that be are the ones causing it, exactly you catch on fast. By the way those bankers are Zionist Jews:cool: I am not blind, I see where the majority of black people are in the world but Look at any majority Black neighborhood, city or country in the world, now compare that to any majority White neighborhood, city, or country in the world..which is nicer? which is safer? which is friendlier? which is more advanced? and which would you rather live in....tell the truth:pDo White people have sweat shops in Zimbabwe? South Africa, Haiti, Jamaica, Mexico, Venezuela, Liberia, Ghana??? Was Europe not far more advanced than sub saharan Africa long before a White man ever ventured into Africa??? Once again...where is the big bad Whitey enslaving people in Africa? There isn't any. Look at South Africa when Whites were in control, look at South Africa since Blacks have had total control(since 1994) BIG DIFFERENCE huh? What about Zimbabwe(Rhodesia)under White control, and Zimbabwe now? Mugabe has had since the early 80s to modernize that country..it just keeps getting worse. White people don't cause third world countries, Blacks do:D Sorry but it is true. Detroit before Black people and..after Black people...Harlem, Bronx, New Orleans, Compton, Watts, south Chicago, Gary, Cleveland, Philadelphia, Miami, yeah..you get the picture, it doesn't take a rocket scientist. Well all of these non Whites need to stop interfering with OUR advancement!! They are dragging us down!! They are an impediment to advancement. Until you recognize the problem , you will just be wandering around blind. do you really? splendid. Exactly! I don't hate other races, I hate multi CULTuralism and the people who force it upon us, Blacks, Mestizos, etc..Unwitting pawns in a great game of screwing us over, but they still cause alot of problems.....You're welcome;)
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Re: Antis! Take this Test!
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I don't even know exactly what means left-wing neoliberal Social Marxist, of course:rolleyes: Apparantly this test may be more accurate than I had thought. They've got you pegged, sweetheart.:D
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Re: BN and WN Story
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now if any of you wn's meet a bn, would you discuss views with them? as a nationalist, i know the main focus is my race an its interests so the responses are gonna be similar. A real Black Nationalist or one of these frauds who say they're Black Nationalists?, there are alot of common criminals and loud mouthed rappers who claim to be supposed righteous BNs and are just common street trash. A true Black Nationalist, sure why not? If you're a true BN then you want the same thing we want, racial separation for mutual benefit. Tom Metzger, the head honcho of WAR(White Aryan Resistance) has spoken at Black Panther rallies before, and met with Farrakhan. George Lincoln Rockwell and his American Nazi Party attended a few Nation of Islam rallies back in the 70s as you can see from the pic our comrade H2H put up. In my opinion co-operation between racial separatists of any race, and nationalists of any nationality is a good thing. That is if they are truly racial separatists and not just common criminals and street trash fronting as Black Nationalists which alot of them are these days...
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Re: Elderly & Disabled white people beaten by negroes!
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On Monday, skinheads in the city of Bruges beat up a black Frenchman. He is still in hospital in a coma. The cafe frequented by the skinheads has now been closed down. A few months ago, a black man was attacked at a petrol station in Brussels, apparently because he had been slow to move his car away from the pump. BLACK FRENCHMAN?? NO SUCH THING!! Blacks do not belong in France or anywhere else in Europa unless they are just tourists. He probably did something to deserve it in the first place.
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Re: Elderly & Disabled white people beaten by negroes!
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Thats just the sort of quote that give black people ammo to hate us white people. Why cant you understand that skin colour does not denote character....if you had a bad accident and needed surgery to survive and in walks the only surgeon who could perform the operation are you that pig headed you would tell him he should not be in your country? Or, worse still, if it was your child who needed his help. Honestly, some of the things people say on this forum are total and utter sh!t. Who said anything about skin color denoting character? Not me. Race isn't just about the color of your skin anyways, it goes much deeper than that. Most Japanese have very White skin, are they White?? No. I said....NO SUCH THING AS A BLACK FRENCHMAN. French is an ethnicity, French are White. A black man can never be French, the same way as if a Martian moved to France and got a piece of paper saying he's French would he be French? No he'd be a Martian who holds French citizenship courtesy of the multi CULT liberal government.
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Re: why do whites threaten other races?
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- White people keep coming up with new weapons. Yes, we know you're jealous :D - white people keep expanding. Non-White people keep expanding. Non-Whites keep flooding into traditionally and rightfully White countries by the millions, not the other way around! We are not expanding, we are dying. :mad: During colonialism the entire earth was colonized, without exception. Ah...yes, the good ol' days. But now non-Whites are colonizing us. Why don't you Chinese stop colonizing us? We don't need anymore China Towns:mad: Did you know that the Chinese are colonizing sub-saharan Africa now? Now it is done with corporations. Jewish owned corporations. We do not consider Jews to be White. - white people control all the media. Correction, Jews control the media. We do not consider Jews to be White. Jews only work for the advancement and interests of Jews, Jews and no one else. Jews aren't White, Jews aren't Black, Jews are just JEWS and they are BAD NEWS. - white people always look for enemies. No, you're wrong. they assume everything thinks like them, No, we do not. White racialists are fully aware that other races do not think the same as us. This is why we do not want them within our society. so every foreign race is a potential enemy. Yes, they are. Anyone who is not on our side and is not one of us is a potential enemy, obviously. - white people sleep too much with Asian girls. we don't like that. No real WN wants anything to do with non-White women. You have come to the wrong place. I think Asian girls are ugly anyways. But you can be sure that the Blacks got dat yellow fever:rolleyes: Blacks will screw anything that moves, I swear. how can there be world peace with whites so threatening??? :rolleyes: ooo yes we are so threatening, we constitute roughly 8% of the world population and falling fast. Meanwhile the Chinese alone are roughly 20% of the world's population! But it is you who are threatened by us....we are a dying race....... :mad:
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Re: Fifteen White Philly Cops Throw Boot Party For Three Fleeing Groids
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Remember that video the next time someone posts on here about how ALL cops are against us. I keep trying to tell people that there are still alot of White cops out there who share our views...I know several of them personally, cops from a very major US city :cool: They're not all against us. I think more and more of the White cops are actually getting more on the same page as us all the time. http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/5494/coptq1.jpg hopefully they get away with it...but ZOG will probably want to make an example out of them:rolleyes:
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Re: Bush to Pope: 'Awesome speech your Holiness'
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http://www.pe.com/imagesdaily/2007/0...l_bush_144.jpg Our fearless leader. http://static.flickr.com/92/236095746_7bc531eed1_o.png http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/T...48454_2414.jpg http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/arti...2041510729.jpg Cheney.:D
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WHITE People Are PATHETIC!!
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WHITE People Are PATHETIC.... It's true, they are. The White race is the most cowardly, self hating, stupid, pathetic race on the face of the Earth. All of these White Supremacists are retards, Whites aren't superior to anything but a worm these days. White people are probably the only species on the planet that aren't even concerned with their own existance and survival. The White race is the only race and only species of creature that I know of on Earth that actually cheer for their own extinction, who actually seem to want it to happen. The only race or species on the planet that puts other races, species, cultures, and ethnicities above their own. White people only work for the betterment of non White people, they don't even care about their own people, how pathetic, they have absolutely no sense of pride in their race, in their culture, in their people, they are a disgrace to their ancestors. The White race just cannot seem to give away their own home countries to foreigners fast enough, they just cannot bring about their extinction any sooner, it seems to be the cool thing to do among White people these days. The White race was once great, proud, noble, strong.....The White race used to be on top of the world. But that was long ago.....Nothing more than a distant memory now. Now....the White race as it stands is the most INFERIOR race of human beings on the planet. The BLACKS have completely dominated the White race. The mestizo/Aztec warriors have completely dominated the so called Aryans. The Chinese are sitting over there laughing at us, they have outwitted us too. The Jews have defeated the White race. The Arabs have defeated the White race. The WHITE race is now a conquered race. It was once great, it is now PATHETIC in every sense of the word. The other races of the world have demonstrated their superiority over WHITE people. WHITE people are the most inferior race on the planet. I laugh at all the White Supremacists who think Whites are superior to the Blacks, Mestizos, and Jews, ha! Take a look around guys......Sure doesen't look that way!!! Looks to me like they are taking over and no one even puts up the slightest resistance. Psh...master race my as#. What a joke the White race is. Most so called White men these days are nothing but little cry baby mama's boys. Just little currs, all bark and no bite. Most of them don't even bark, most of them would just lie there and play dead if a Black guy or Mexican hombre gave them a dirty look. Most White men would bend straight over and take it like a man if a Black guy or a Mexican told him to. Most White men are just Black worshipping little nerds and wimps. They watch negro vs. negro sports events all day long and listen to rap music with anti White lyrics. White men worship Black male sports stars and rap stars, they idolize them. 150 years ago White man had Black man on a leash, literally. Now Black man has White man on a leash leading him around. WHITE men are just the Black men's little bit*h boys. The roles have been reversed. White men are harmless, weak, wimpy, cowardly, impotent, Black worshipping, cry baby mommy's boys. That's what all the Blacks think, and that's what all the Mestizos think, and it's what all the Arabs think too.......I would have to agree with them. They're absolutely right, White men are a joke, ha! Just laughable. Hey WHITE men! Black men, and Mexican men, are TAKING OVER YOUR country. It's your house, and these other guys are just coming in and screwing your wife and drinking your beer and putting their feet up on the stool and making themselves at home. What losers you White men are, you don't even care, you don't even resist in the slightest. Most of you welcome it. You say come on Black guy!! Come on Mexican guy!! Come screw my daughter, heck screw me if you want too!! I don't mind because I'm not a racist!! I'm coo' homies, huh? I'm cool right guys??? Most so called White men are just gutless little worms who beg like dogs for the approval and acceptance of Black and Mestizo men. Which is why all the White women want nothing to do with little wimpy ass kissing White men. They don't want you little impotent, ball less, wusses, they want a Black guy, or a Mexican, you know...a real man. Someone who can handle himself, someone who looks out for his people, someone who protects his property. Not some dork who just gives it away. Psh.... Women......WHITE women...psh...just as big of a joke as the White men. Your typical White woman is just a trampy, slutty, braindead, IQ of 60, Black worshipping little skank. You WHITE women know what BLACK men and MESTIZO men, and other men even your own WHITE men think of you???? They all just think you're a bunch of EASY, slutty, airheaded little bimbos. And you know what?? They're right!!! Your typical White woman would strip off her clothes and jump in bed with a gang banging negro if he just simply looked at her and snapped his big black fingers. All he's gotta say is come ere' lil' White bitc# and the girls just can't resist. They say ooo I'm so cool now I'm getting SCREWED by a Black guy woo hoo! Won't my Daddy be so proud of me!! WHITE women just want the approval of Black and Mestizo men just the same as the White men do. WHITE people are the most inferior race on the planet, they didn't use to be, but they certainly are now. They just want to be down wit' da homies and esses that's their life goal. Well that, and the complete eradication of all traditional White-European culture and way of living, and the complete eradication of all White countries which of course leads to the eradication of the White race and culture as we know it. Race...culture.....the perpetuation of your people...the single most sacred thing in this world...is the one thing White people don't care about at all. They only care about bettering other races, not their own. They want their own race and culture to go extinct it means absolutely nothing to them. Well let me tell you WHITE people something, you PATHETIC little WHITE wimps and MORONS. These Mexicans and mestizos ONLY care about spreading and maintaining their race and culture not YOURS, they don't give a flying crap about the survival of the White race and culture only the Mestizo/Mexican race and Latino culture nothing else. Let me tell you WHITE imbeciles something else.....these BLACK people don't give a crap in this world about the survival of the White - European culture, way of life, and race. NOT AT ALL. They only care about THEIR people. About spreading and maintaining THEIR culture, way of life and race not YOURS!! Not WHITE people!! Not at all!!! Same thing goes for the Jews, Arabs, Chinese etc...Every race and ethnic group on the planet ONLY cares first and foremost about advancing and preserving THEIR race, THEIR people, THEIR culture, THEIR way of living, NOBODY elses. But.....WHITE people ONLY care about advancing everyone else.....Their own culture, way of life, and race obviously means NOTHING to them. What is wrong with WHITE people??? What happened to them??? They are truly a PATHETIC race if I have ever seen one, it is sad. There are a few good ones still like me and alot of the people here on Stormfront and within the WN movement. But the majority of the WHITE race is beyond PATHETIC. The lowest of the low. SCUM. COWARDS. TRAITORS. MORONS. IDIOTS. WHORES. SLUTS. WIMPS. NANCY BOYS. Am I wrong??? Or am I right????? I sure hope you guys who are reading this can make me eat my words, I sure hope you can prove me wrong. But.....I seriously doubt it. The WHITE race is a conquered race of FOOLS and COWARDS. The men are wimps and the women are race mixing sluts who would do whatever some random Black rapper tells them to do because they so desperately want to be cool and get SCREWED by a Black guy who cares NOTHING about their little White as#. Hey stoopid race mixing WHITE girls!! Those Black guys don't LOVE you!! They only want to do to you what they perceive the WHITE man has having done to them for decades.......SCREW em'. As soon as you get knocked up with a little mongrel Obama baby that Black guy is outta there honey. Just ask Obama's mama. Hey WHITE men!! All those Black guys and hombres think you're nothing but a bunch of little sissy cowards, all they gotta do is look at you crossways and you'll go running for mommy, you know what?? I AGREE. Soooo.......to anyone who actually took the time to read my rant about the PATHETIC nature of the WHITE race. I would be interested to see what you have to say about the PATHETICNESS of the WHITE race today. Especially you antis you unregistered visitors. What do you think? How does it feel WHITE people, how does it feel to know you are a member of the MOST PATHETIC, COWARDLY, MORONIC, STUPID, race on the planet? How does it feel to know your people are the laughing stock of the entire world, all of the Blacks, Mestizos, and Asians snicker behind your back. How does it feel??????????? Do you think I'm wrong about the WHITE race?????:confused:
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Re: WHITE People Are PATHETIC!!
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Hey all you WHITE people out there! All of you WHITE antis you unregistered visitors who are crawling all over this site. This is no joke people, this is no laughing matter. This is not about White Supremacy, this is not some anything you can do we can do better master race, hate motivated movement. We WNs are motivated by SURVIVAL. Not hate. This is no joke it's getting BAD for WHITE people out there. Do you even care??? I hope so, because you're either gonna get with it or get gone it's just that simple. These Mexicans are dead serious about taking over. And you BLACKS you aren't safe either, you're gonna be the first to go, you only make up 12% of the US. The mestizos are already picking off any Black who sets foot in their neighborhood out in LA they hate you far worse than we do. You Blacks need to get with the program just like the Whites.......This is about survival, don't shrug it off and laugh people.....Sooner or later you're all going to have to get with it or get gone it's just that simple. So you may as well start getting with it now before it's too late to make any difference, if it isn't already......
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