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Re: RACE IS SOCIALLY CONSTRUCTED
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As Dr. A.W.F. Edwards ( http://www.medinfo.cam.ac.uk/miu/people/edwards.asp ) notes: In popular articles that play down the genetical differences among human populations, it is often stated that about 85% of the total genetical variation is due to individual differences within populations and only 15% to differences between populations or ethnic groups. It has therefore been proposed that the division of Homo sapiens into these groups is not justified by the genetic data. This conclusion, due to R.C. Lewontin in 1972, is unwarranted because the argument ignores the fact that most of the information that distinguishes populations is hidden in the correlation structure of the data and not simply in the variation of the individual factors. The underlying logic, which was discussed in the early years of the last century, is here discussed using a simple genetical example. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract
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Re: RACE IS SOCIALLY CONSTRUCTED
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Articles Highlight Different Views on Genetic Basis of Race http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1259269/posts
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Re: RACE IS SOCIALLY CONSTRUCTED
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RACIAL GROUPINGS MATCH GENETIC PROFILES, STANFORD STUDY FINDS http://news-service.stanford.edu/new...-02-09-05.html 32
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Re: Serbs, not only you were backstabbed by Croatia
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Zasto bi oni bili nesto bolji od ustasa ? Ti si mlad pa mozda se i ne secas kako su nase vojnike ubijali s ledja , mucki i kukavicki 1991 . It's somewhat depressing to see that you identify with the Comminist JNA, which, as already mentioned, did not only consist of Serbs but also Macedonians, Bosniaks, Albanians and the rest of former Yugoslavian nations. Slovenia declared independence on the 25th of June 1991 and the JNA was still occupying it. While I am dismayed by the fact that Serbs and other nations were used a cannon fodder in the JNA, Slovenia was only defending her independence. You forget that the JNA launched the first attack. Potrebni su savezi sa istoriskim nacijama tipa Italije,Francuske i sl, a ne sa polunacijama koje nisu znali ni kako se zovu. The name was documented to have existed from the 6th to the 16th century, with a break until the 19th century when it was revived. Keep in mind that this is only applicable to the name of Slovenes, and not their identity.
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Re: Serbs, not only you were backstabbed by Croatia
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@tvrdi: Before I return and resume my conversation with you, I would like to ask you one question. Are you Dinarid?
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Re: Serbs, not only you were backstabbed by Croatia
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That is not the object of this thread !!! It's not, but you might want to anwer it nonetheless.
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Re: Deus Ex 2
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Hi orbital, im getting to get straight to the answer here; No there is no way you can run that game. The problem IS your video card--the card you have is very old technology, its older than a Geforce 1 card and the newest Geforce is the Geforce 5. And because its so old is why you cant run it, the card was made before Direct X 9, and so it doesnt support the features of DX9 that Deus Ex 2 requires, like pixel shaders. So your only option is to buy a Direct X 9 card, the best ones are the Ati Radeon 9600 Pro, the 9700 pro and the 9800 Pro. You can get a 9600 pro for around $150. The Geforce FX series are DX 9 aswell, but those cards are kind of flaky right now so its best to avoid them. Heres a video card comparison site with graghs and everything, that should help you if you want to get a new card. http://www17.tomshardware.com/graphi..._guide-13.html oh and whoever said that the only differences between new and old cards is meomry size is completely wrong, theres much more to it than that.
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----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jews: - Control hollywood, make harmful propaganda against us ( when was the last time you saw a blonde blue eyed person in a positive role? ), sell pornografy to disoriented youth, control the world of banking. Blacks: sell drugs to our youth, commit crime. Asians: Take jobs from us, breed irresposible Other mongrels : sell drugs, commit crime and take jobs. Given the chance they would all take our Woman. Non of them have ever done anything good for me. So why should I care for them? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You shouldnt hate them. Jews have thier money and high positions of power because they work hard to get to that position. Black People I have to agree with you on, atleast 99% of them. In Miami most of the crimes are commited by blacks and the few times ive strolled into a black 'hood' the natives screamed and that told me if i didnt leave I was going to get my white ass beat and killed. But still, Ive met a few upstanding and decent black people, one of whom is a Missionary and another whos a 'oreo' type. I dont think theres a justified reason to hate them ALL. Asians from what ive seen are very smart and civilized and truth is they are probably the only immigrant group that contributes to the economy positively, high birth rate or not. Mongrels im not really familiar with, but if theyre black mongrels then thier probably no worse than a full black. Anyways, cant we have a pride in our race and the accomplishments of our people without resorting to hate? Really if you knew the truth, hate is going to keep the WN movement stagnant if we dont drop the hate line since your average Joe isnt going to find it very appealing. my 2$
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Originally posted by Fenris But should we separate from them all, or just from the bad ones? And who will decide who is bad? And what about new bad ones that come along in future generations? Or should we just complain and do nothing? When the time comes we should seperate from all of them. Until then, I think its pointless to make enemies with the few good ones where theres no reason to. Also, I personally believe that alot of blacks would be sympathetic to the movement if they truely knew what it was about, afterall its not unheard of for them to want thier own country aswell. But the hate stigma which is poured down thier throats continously by the TV IMO, makes them believe we all hate them and want to go nazi on them, and so they want to crush us. We should make a point that White Nationalism isnt Nazi'ism, I believe we have more class than that. Originally posted by Fenris We're not about merely having pride. We're about saving our people. This thread is unfortunately titled. It plays right into the hate stereotype. WNs feel the same way about nonwhites as Native Americans felt about white pioneers, the same way Arabs feel about Israelis, and the same way jews feel about WNs. But we should drop the I hate stuff anyway, as Monkey suggests: too many negative connotations with the public. I agree with that.
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Hi this is my first post, I just wanted to say that its pretty wierd to see bickering of whether or not Latins are white or not. In the town I grew up in, it was largely Italians, Poles, Swedes, Scots, Irish, SPAINiards and there was never a question of whether or not any of us were white. We just are and we know it. And we ALL do our part to keep the town peaceful, if it isnt a Italian chasing a Mexican or Black out, it would be a Swede doing it, or a Irish. Thats unity at its best, and it shows whos loyal and whos not. When it comes down to it and were faced with the real threats; ie-negroes and mexicans, this whole 'latin' issue disolves quickly.
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Re: Delegates Walk Out of Un Racism Conference
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I wonder, just how much of the U.S. walking out was about the security threat to us directly and how much was a direct influence from Zion.
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Re: Why are White Nationalist so ignorant about African History
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Stop with the immature ad hominem debating tactics. Black people do have a great history and we were not just swinging from three like you all claim. More Also, old astronomical manuscripts from the medieval desert collections in Mali and Mauritania show that the Africans knew about the lunar cycle and its shadows long before any European thought about it. The mosque of the University of Sankore was highly distinguished for the teaching of Koranic theology and law, besides other subjects such as astronomy and mathematics. In the 14th century, Timbuktu had an estimated population of 115,000 people. Typically, 25,000 were at university and 20,000 were at school. London, by contrast, had a total 14th century population of 20,000 people. Before you all give credit to the Arabs The Emperor also brought Arabs scholars to Timbuktu. To his great surprise, the Emperor has found that these scholars are underqualified compared to the black scholars of Timbuktu. Abd Arahman Atimmi had such a low level that he was obliged to migrate to Marrakech to complete his prerequisites so he can sit in the classes as a student. Quit the copypasta and start debating.
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Re: Jews or Illuminati?
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The Illuminati aren't around any more. That group was formed in a time when people had do be secretive when studying science and philosophy, due to the stronghold the Catholic Church had on Europe. There's really no need for an Illuminati any more. And no, the Jews didn't play a big role in that organization. Now, as for powerful Jewish secret societies today, there are none. The Zionazis are quite open with their intentions, as they're clearly talked about publicly by groups like AIPAC and even the Israeli government. The sad truth is, American politicians aren't being lied to, they just approve of what the Jews are doing. WTF?! Somebody around here actually knows history. Good, that means less of the White people built every single civilization there ever was crap. Anywho, the Freemasons were, at one time, something like this. As a side note, research the Aryan Heresy and the Vandals and just think of what could have been. Think of it, a church that was NOT Romanized.
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Re: Women Strongly Discriminate Against Negroes in Dating - Study
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The OP misquoted the article's viewpoint: it clearly says that women prefer their own race, not they discriminate against black people.
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Re: ARGUE WITH ME, I'M A BIGOT!!!
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Easy. Give me one solid piece of evidence that race is the cause of one significant negative trait. Remember: race, proof and genuinely negative. No pulling out opinion and poorly researched articles.
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Re: ARGUE WITH ME, I'M A BIGOT!!!
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A: How the hell did you infer I'm going to create a straw man? There's absolutely no evidence of that. Besides, straw men don't even constitute a coherent argument. (Unless of course you're the moderator whom approved my comment that had the definition of a straw man in it, which I edited out minutes after it was approved - but that still isn't evidence of me trying to create a straw man.) B: You're going to have to explain exactly what you mean by 'preserving your race.' A personal decision not to sleep with another person is absolutely fine - nobody should try and take that away - but what about your children, can they sleep with whoever they want? What's wrong with mixed race relationships? Do you reject their culture too? Would you live and work with other races if given the choice? C: Disliking another person in account of their race is often considered the definition of bigotry, so it's up to you to assure us that you're not implying you're better than other races. The ball is most definitely in your court.
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http://i10.tinypic.com/63wpfs5.jpg Srsly, couldn't you find a better pic? That kid is white. Also, you shop like ****. We even had 16 year old camwhores doing nicer stuff. Try this the next time: http://i19.tinypic.com/4zivbd3.jpg That is what separates normal pro-white folk from you primitive, soulless, heartless imbeciles that have become a pollution to the world. You have the emotional IQ of a pile of steamy excrement, and lack the wherewithal to comprehend that your crap will have consequences. Why, thank you! Cry me a river, and please don't forget to take your medication, we don't want to lose a decent racist with fine language skills like that to a heart stroke. I bid you adieu!
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Re: Why? Question from a 7channer.
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Just to throw in my two cents... I am a 20 year old /b/tard. I go to a university where I am majoring in electrical engineering. I just finished up my first part of cooperative education at a nice big company. I live with my girlfriend in an apartment downtown. I am a 4channer. Why? I have no real clue. /b/ is an addicting place. Probably the mob mentality that pervades over there has just sucked me in. I am a little-l libertarian -- everyone just do their own thing, don't step on my toes... etc. I also strongly believe in free speech. I don't particularly agree with what Hal, or anyone else says, but I do believe that they should have the right to say it. So, is what we are doing wrong? Absolutely. But when Anonymous begins, we do not stop. Image boards across the world are joining the attack on Hal. We do not forgive. To give an example of how Anonymous does not forgive, read: http://overthrow88.blogspot.com/ . Then take a look at overthrow.com. We won't stop. We have the mob mentality going for us. And as long as we screw with Hal and he responds, we will end up continuing.
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Re: What is wrong with you racist anti White scum?
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dearsest stormfront. Kindly attempt to understand what I am saying, and learn from it! anonymous only attacks you because you react, and take everything all serious. Thats it. There is nothing else to it. We make fun of everyone equally and totally. Every time someone gets raided, we tell them the secret to surviving the raid, and even how to hold your own agains anonymous. But every time, people are too stupid to realize that we have revealed the weakness of the attack. on a personal note, I think racism is wrong, but I dont really give a damn what you do. free country. it was for the lulz
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Re: ARGUE WITH ME, I'M A BIGOT!!!
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So what are we saying? If a person can make a strong, coherent argument against you, you simply refuse to listen to them? Well, your loss. Jim
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Re: Hate groups are tearing apart this country from the inside! Stop it!
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{{The question is if White Nationalist are willing to put their country first and work with others who are women and Progressive Democrats.}} Shouldn't it be obvious? They DON'T put their country first. They put THEMSELVES first. They'd rather leave their mind rotting in the gutter, blaming their problems on the minority of the minority, rather than manning up and cleaning it up themselves.
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Re: why do most racist think jews are the worst enemy?
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{{why do most racist think jews are the worst enemy?}} Cause the racists can't seem to shift their mind to an acceptable level of tolerance; they'd rather waste it on bull**** conspiracy theories (hey guys, I think Stormfront was responsible for 9/11! I can play that game too!) and opinions that are flat-out steaming piles of crap in this day and age.
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Re: Is it degenerate to leave your girlfriend if she ended up obese or morbidly obese?
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Nope. You did the right thing.
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Re: Try being NOT racially aware
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Tell me, what is human culture? How do dress if you're supposed to be a human? What do you eat if you're a human? What religion are these humans? I could easily answer those questions if I were talking about my own heritage, but like hell if I have any idea how humans on the other side of the world act. There is no one human culture (just as there is no one English culture). As I said, all cultures are open to you. Why on earth restrict yourself to one or two?
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I am no zionist, but...
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First of all let me get it straight that I oppose Israel and what it has done. It has no right to exist. However I do not understand the mentality that all Jews are evil. Please enlighten me.
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re: Were there any Negroes in medieval Europe?
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This question just popped in my mind were their any- cause the lying apes who believe in that fake bullshivt Afrocentrism claim that their was- I know no way in hell there was thanks Yes there were. Without question. First under the form of souvenirs brought by explorers, and after, brought as slaves (late medieval). Slaves in the sense of domestic worker, not to work on the field under the beating of a whip. A black housekeeper/servant was an exclusivity. There are storyboards and triptychs displayed in a churches and a courthouse in Antwerp, Amsterdam and Reims, showing Lords and their black slaves.
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Re: What is your height and ethnic makeup? Males and Females
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I am a white heterosexual male 5 11 200 lbs. 100% Croatian heritage with above 120 IQ
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Re: Racist Tricks
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White should not hate non-whites. Greedy white people are more of a threat to you & themselves, than the non-whites (asians, blacks, indians). Ziggy, just by the style, tone, and stupidity of your rant I know you are a nonwhite and specifically black. When espousing your cause do not lump other 'nonwhites' along with you because I for one am not black even though I am neither white. It is offensive. Blacks are so cowardly and don't have a leg to stand on they use other races/minorities' achievements to bolster their own. Hogwash! Also, the black women that you speak of that are considered attractive have white ancestry or are biracial. Your animalistic culture as contributed to the current cultural degeneracy of this country among other things. Your music, style, etc is highly sexual, seedy and degenerate and it disgusts me, it reeks of it and you have no shame. Just don't include us asians in your circle because it is as offensive and unnatural as if you were including the caucasian race. We are not you and you are not us. Do you understand this concept instead of the perverted hegemony you so love? Incidentally, I find african-americans more vile than any african breed, you must have just enough nonafrican blood to make you more domineering, pushy, have an emphatic sense of entitlement, and have more the wherewithal to have a nasty intent behind your parasitic and animalistic destructive nature. So shut your trap with this broad 'nonwhite' crap which you know would include northeast asians as if you were anywhere near their level or their culture. Speak for yourself and your own people, black.
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how much of a person's psychological/behavioral makeup is determined by social culture as opposed to race?
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how much of a person's psychological/behavioral makeup is determined by social culture as opposed to race? for example, black, mexican, muslim, etc? i sometimes feel uncomfortable around certain people, but i tend to attribute it moreso to cultural upbringing versus race.
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Ending Stereotypes
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Many ancient and medieval writers commented on how skin color correlated with intelligence. To the shock of many modern readers the Greeks and Romans equated dark skin with intelligence and lighter skin with stupidity. The Greek historian Lucian (125?-90) wrote that the Ethiopians (name for all black people), Being in all else wiser than other men, invented astrology and taught it to the Egyptians. Aristotle (398-332BC) believed that, The races that live in Europe are full of courage and passion but somewhat lacking in skill and brain power. Those who are too black are cowards, like for instance, the Egyptians and Ethiopians. But those who are excessively white are also cowards. The complexion of courage is between the two. Aristotle believed, liked many Greeks and Romans, that they lived in the perfect, mid-position geographically, between the intelligent, yet cowardly dark skinned southerners, and brave, yet dull pale-skinned northerners. Vitruvius Polio (1st century BC) in his book, On Architecture, wrote the following passage about the different innate attributes of people: Now while the southern peoples are of acute intelligence and infinite resource, they give way when courage is demanded because their strength is drained away by the sun; but those who are born in colder regions by their fearless courage are better equipped for the clash of arms, yet by their slowness of mind they rush on without reflection, and through lack of tactics are balked of their purposeâ¦Italy presents good qualities which are tempered by admixture from either side both north and south, and are consequently unsurpassed. And so, by its policy, it curbs the courage of the northern barbarians; by its strength, the imaginative south. Thus the divine mind has allotted to the Roman state an excellent and temperate region in order to rule the world. There are many examples of the Greeks and Romans' high regards for the intelligence of black people. In Heliodorus' play, an Ethiopian King was a model of wisdom, righteousness, and magnanimity. In Homer's Odyssey, Odysseus's herald Eurybates--who has black skin and wooly hair--was renowned for his wisdom. Lucian mentioned a thoughtful Negro scribe from Memphis named Pancrates. Aesop, the famous fable writer was described as an Ethiopian. The Roman writer Terrence, who achieved great fame as a comic poet after arriving in Rome as a slave, was described as having dark and black skin. Terrence was accepted into Rome's elite circles and his daughter married a Roman knight. Strabo placed Taharqa, one of the kings of the Black-Nubian-Egyptian 25th dynasty, among one of the world's greatest military tacticians. Many Arabs in the Middle Ages believed they were superior mentally to all people--they showed contempt for lighter and darker skinned people--although they seemingly held blacks in higher esteem than whites. The Muslim scholar Sa'id al-Andalusi wrote: They (whites) lack keenness of understanding and clarity of intelligence, and are overcome by ignorance and dullness, lack of discernment, and stupidity. A Muslim writer in the 10th century wrote that Iraqis were the most intelligent and attractive people. The people of Iraq have sound mindsâ¦a proficiency in every artâ¦and a pale brown color, which is the most apt and proper colorâ¦They do not come out with something between blond, blanched and leprous coloring, such as the infants dropped from the wombs of the women of the Slavs and others of light complexion; nor are they overdone in the womb until they are burnedâ¦such as the Ethiopians and other blacksâ¦. The Iraqis are neither half-baked dough nor burned crust, but between the two. The Asian Mongols also believed that whites were innately inferior. Between 1237 and 1242 the Mongols ruled over Russia and much of central Europe. They grew wealthy selling white slaves. In the Middle Ages Russians and other Slavic people were the primary source of slaves in the Mediterranean world--The word slave even derives from the word Slav. To the surprise of many, there can be little doubt that black people in the Mid-East and Egypt owned white slaves. Medieval European and Arabs who visited African kingdoms praised the blacks for their intelligence. Duarte Pires, writing to the king of Portugal about the people of Benin, told his king, they are very good learners. A Portuguese chronicler described an ambassador from Benin as, a man of good speech and natural wisdom. The Dutchman Olfert Dapper writing in 1622 concluded that These Negroes...are people who have good laws. Donald Levine and Almeida described the Ethiopians as very amenable to reason and justiceâ¦intelligent and good naturedâ¦mild, gentle, kind⦠The memory power of Africans struck one European merchant as beyond what is easy to image. Mahmud Kati wrote, The great men of the Songhai were versed in the art of war. They were very brave, very bold and most expert in the deployment of military stratagems. Henry Morton Stanley, after visiting the court of the Ugandan king in 1875 wrote that he was neither, tyrannous savage, nor wholesale murderer, as had been told in European fables, but a pious Mussulman and an intelligent humane king reigning absolutely over a vast section of Africa, loved more than hated, respected more than feared. An English soldier, after being defeated by a Nigerian town that had acquired guns and cannons, wrote that the Africans demonstrated a, â¦considerable amount of intelligence. The guns were admirably placed to meet any attack from the direction expectedâ¦and were well and strongly mounted. One British soldier warned his countrymen about the Bornu soldiers: Do not let us smoothly despise these black warriors. This headstrong braggart cavalry and its rabble of infantry, these raids and reivings or rare and brilliant battles that grew willy-nilly from duel and skirmish--they were our own feudal army, they were Crecy and Agincourt. Al Masudi, a 10th century Iraqi historian recorded that the Zang, a black people in East and South Africa, are elegant speakers. John Hunwick, a history Professor at Northwestern wrote: In India Black African slaves or freedmen played a considerable role, not merely as soldiers but also as administrators and rulers, in a number of states from the fourteenth to the seventeenth century. The Muslim world believed that blacks made good financial assistants. Barbosa recorded that a people near Zimbabwe, â¦are great traders. The sophistication, of the West African forest people's agricultural, recorded Iliffe, impressed fifteenth-century Europeans. Visiting the Tigre in Ethiopia in 1893, Bent wrote in admiration, all the surrounding hills have been terraced for cultivationâ¦Nowhere in Greece or Asia Minor have I seen such an enormous extent of terraced mountains as in this Abyssinian valley. Hundreds of thousands of acres must have been under the most careful cultivation, right up almost to the top of the mountains. The high regard in which the Europeans held black intelligence for over 2000 years quickly took a dramatic dive during the slave trade and Africa's subsequent fall: By the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, Davidson wrote, the European estimate (of black people) had changed, vastly changed; because Europe, with a couple of hundred years of industry and science behind it, had also changed, while Africa had fallen back. In 1748 the Scottish philosopher David Hume--ignoring or blatantly lying about history--demonstrated the ridiculous propaganda that was accepted by an unknowing public with the following quote: I am apt to suspect the Negroes, and in general all the other species of men, to be naturally inferior to the whites. There never was any civilized nation of any other complexion than white, nor even say individual eminent in action or speculation. Sadly this type of propaganda was accepted among white Europeans; they just didn't know any better. Unfortunately the propaganda led whites to discriminate and commit violence against people with darker skin tones, especially blacks, because of lies like the one above. When historical facts clearly proved the white supremacists wrong they desperately dreamed up ridiculous stories, or squeezed their eyes really tight until they truly believed 2 plus 2 was 5. They even created myths where the artwork of the Romans, Greeks, and Egyptians all clearly show darker skinned people with black hair as the inhabitants, instead of blondes with pale skin, who they claimed created the civilizations; Their ad hoc explanation was that it was the blondes who initially built the civilizations, but accustomed to their old climate of the north, began to wither in the Mediterranean heat and quickly died out. Ridiculous as that is, it was accepted. White myths about how Europeans once conquered and civilized India, the Arab nations, and Sub Sahara Africa soon followed. There was a general rule of thumb: Whenever a civilization was successful it was because of white infiltration and rule, yet when a civilization declined it was because of race mixing or a dark skinned leader; forget the evidence! Simple, silly, and contrary to all the empirical evidence, yet it was accepted by the public. Incredibly it is these erroneous claims that are the root of false stereotypes many people have today, which of course leads to violence and discrimination. In 1932 Wilson studied the Kenyan mines, terraces, and roads, and his thoughts are a reflection of the vastly changed mindset toward blacks. The average width of the top of the terraces is about a foot. They were probably about three feet originally, and the depth between terraces three feet. The roads, as a rule about ten or twelve feet wide, while, the strata of the hillside are exposed and have been worked with a tool. One of the roads of Kenya connects with Northern Zimbabwe, which is around 500-600 miles. It was a great achievement of the Kenyaâs, but not according to Wilson. He wrote that the black natives, who were actually still using the terracing methods when he visited, are too barbarous to have learnt it themselves. When the Kenyaâs told him that it was they who had mastered these techniques he shunned it as, probably an Anzanina legacy. Myths about the stone palaces of Zimbabwe were even more absurd. The stone castles were an obvious evolution from the straw and wood homes constructed by the indigenous people, yet white supremacists claimed that Phoenicians built the castles; or perhaps, they claimed, it was King Solomon's mines; or maybe even the Garden of Eden. It's hard to imagine people believing these stories, but it was a different time, and who else could have built them? Certainly not the blacks they reasoned. It would be funny if it weren't so harmful.
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Re: The Anniversary of 9/11: What Have Americans Learned?
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I learned that both Reps and Dems support the Israeli Terror State. That while Arabs may have flown the planes, it was the Mossad that planted the exposives. See Terror Storm free on Google Video while you still can.
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Re: Why did the Soviet Union collapse?
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I keep waiting for a book on this subject. After 25 years still no book. Must be because someone doesn't want us to know. Great thread. 3 major issues. 1. The failing economy 2. Perestroika that introduced some freedom of speech and freedom of media 3. KKK-market Väiski. These ads, that were visible in Estonia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1THB65u7sQs Displaying amounts and quality of meat that no soviet citizen could possibly have acquired in their entire life. The official story was that it wasn't meat, just plastic. Or that ordinary finns couldn't possibly afford it. Oh the soviets tried hard to block those tv signals... The final killing blow was state employees simply not showing up for work one day, and with the whole apparatus gone, the soviet union ceased to exist.
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Re: Final argument.
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Well, good luck with your mission WN. This is my final post on stormfront. In my ideal world your children would have the freedom to marry anybody they want and live wherever they want (because beauty/love itself is subjective). If your great great grandchild wanted to marry an East Asian, who the hell are you to say he couldn't? Put yourself in the same situation that you would be placing your children. Imagine if I put a gun to your head and forced you to marry a non-white. In a sense, that's the same thing you'd be doing to your child except you'd be forcing him to marry a white. White Nationalism is a broken ideology because it lacks freedom of decision. Not all whites want to live in an all white Nation. Otherwise there wouldn't be 100,000+ Caucasians living in the city of Tokyo. Culture in my mind should never be static. The gift of the next generation is that their generation is different from our own. Most, if not all, of the 3000+ year old traditions are useless in our current society. Europeans use to worship Jewish gods. :) Thank goodness most Europeans nowadays are atheist. Imagine for a second if your great great grandchild was immortal. Eventually he'd get tired of the western lifestyle/culture and he would venture into the east out of boredom/curiosity. Stop counting the ratio of whites to non-whites of each Nation. Instead, start setting your sights towards the planet. If there are 2 million Chinese living in Europe then 2 million Europeans should live in China. If your ancestors wanted all whites to stay in their country they wouldn't have colonized Africa and America. Your grandchild should have the freedom to choose wherever he wants to live (as long as he doesn't disturb the natives of the land). Don't brainwash your child and don't let your child get brainwashed by TV. Instead let your child come to his own conclusions about the world.
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Re: Final argument.
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If this was a thread about your finale argument you'd be creating walls of text too. I still don't know how race mixing is considered genocide, but I'll respond to all the WN who keep whining about the end of their race. Tell me again how the 900 million whites in this world are going to be dissolved from race mixing? How is this physically possible? You're starting to sound like those paranoid conspiracy theorist. Just because one group is a minority in a country does not mean it's going to get dissolved. South Africa for example, a Nation where blacks are in the majority. Despite how much you WN like to over exaggerate about how those whites are in danger. Those whites are enjoying themselves. If South Africa is such a dangerous black infested country, why don't they return to Europe? The same Europe that is the best continent on the face of the planet according to you WN. Apparently Europe wasn't good enough for them. Maybe because in Europe they don't get cheap labor. The greedy colonist in South Africa payed the Africans chips and peanuts to build them mansions. Then the colonist created segregation laws that made it physically impossible for Africans to live in those mansions. Can you imagine how pissed the Europeans would be if the Asians came to Europe and created segregation laws? South African blacks probably hate the whites more than the African American blacks. But even with such a high bloodthirst to kill whitey the whites of South Africa are doing fine. Otherwise they would have left South Africa years ago. Even though blacks are in the majority, there are still millions of pure blooded whites in South Africa. I'm still waiting for the evil black government to pass a law that will make it legal to kill whitey. I'm also waiting for a giant golden dinosaur to walk up to me one day and hand me a million dollars. Let me give you another example. 8 decades ago 100,000 Japanese migrated to Brazil. That population is now estimated to be 1.2 million strong. Despite being the minority in the country, the Japanese were never dissolved. Let me give you another example, the 3+ million Arabs in America. Why aren't they complaining about a potential genocide of their race? Their population is just as pure as it was when they first migrated here. The only two races in America that should be complaining about race mixing is the Africans and Native Americans. They are the two biggest mixed races in America (largely thanks to the rape-and-sell policy of the 1800s). 60% to 70% of African Americans have European ancestors. As a kid I always wondered why my skin was such a very light shade of brown. Also, the Africans and Native Americans didn't want to be mixed. Native Americans (even till this day) hate Europeans. And African males and females are NOT attracted to Caucasians (or whiteboy as they like to call them). All the black females I know are attracted to thugs, while all the black males I know are attracted to gold diggers. Even till this day I do not know why this is. But getting back to the point. The *only way for one race to be endanger of getting dissolved is if massive forced mixing occurs. Africans were raped in massive numbers. And by rape I don't mean aggressive rape; I guess I should refer to it as massive breeding. Massive breeding was common back in those days. So unless you're actually dumb enough to think a mythical Jew will be able to pass a law stating that it's legal to rape whites, then I don't see how the white race will disappear. But hell, even if someone did do that there are 210+ million Caucasians in the USA alone. If the 30+ million blacks and 20+ million (illegal alien) Mexicans were all to one day decide to mix with whitey. Surprise surprise, whites would still be in the majority. Blacks are only 10% of the population. So subtract 10% from blacks and subtract 10% from the 70% of whites. Hmm, it appears there's still a lot of whites left. See where I'm getting at with this, or do you WN fail at basic equations? There are 1.2 million Europeans living in Japan. Why aren't they complaining about a potential genocide of their race? What I'm trying to say here is, even if one race is in the minority, they don't have to fear getting dissolved. It's their own choice if they want to get dissolved. In the end, the choice will come down to your children. If your great great grandchild decides to elope with an Asian, who the hell are you to decide who the kid should fall in love with? Love, art, and beauty is subjective, remember? Also, who the hell are you to decide where your great great grandchild should live? If you traveled this Earth you'd know just how massive this planet is. It's more than big enough for us to share. Set your goals higher for your great grandchildren. Why should they be forced to stay on two continents. They should be able to live in and lead any country they feel like. This Earth belongs to no one. Why do you think Europeans decided to colonize America and Africa? Obviously, they wanted something more for their children. Japan's Tokyo is one of the most advanced places on this Earth period. I wonder what it'll look like 12,000 years from now. In my ideal world both of our children will be able to choose where they want to live as long as they do not disturb the natives of the land. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q0ubRMw8L8 Sucks to be the sap that ends up being your great great grandchild. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laPU0bS8JOc The west needs to learn that there is a new super power on the horizon. Every Asian Nation is getting stronger. If it continues at this rate by the year 2120, China will have the strongest economy followed by Japan and South Korea. Thankfully Japan has become an anti war/pacifist country. Unlike Americans, the modern day Japanese don't care about building barbaric weapons or military. Instead they only focus on self defense. One can only imagine how strong Japan's military would be if they weren't such pacifist. The only white Nation that will be able to compete is ironically America (the Nation with the most minorities). You WN try to blame minorities on your failure to compete with the East yet the Western Nations with the most minorities are the strongest. Brazil holds the title of strongest economy in South America, and Brazil was the Nation that received the second biggest share of slaves during the slave trade. At one point in Brazil, there were more slaves than Europeans. Brazil is also one of the biggest mulatto countries on the planet. More than 50% of Brazil's population can trace their ancestors to Africans, Europeans, and Native Americans. It also became the first oil free Nation on the American continent thanks to the various sugar cane fields. Guess who harvested those sugar cane fields? Maybe Russia could use some multiculturalism to help their economy. You could combine the economy of the two purest white European Nations and their Economy would still be smaller than Japan (an island Nation that is actually smaller than California). Like it or hate it, multiculturalism work$. America needs the 20+ million undocumented illegal Aliens. Real estate by far is the most important thing about our economy. And if you were to get rid of those cheap labor workers you would cripple America's economy. Ever heard of the words equivalent exchange? In exchange for holding the title of strongest economy, America has the highest crime rate and racism. You cant have your cake and eat it too. Europeans have gotten rich by using slaves and colonizing countries. Notice how the peaceful Easterners stayed away from that. While the west waste trillions of dollars on wars, the east saves its money. Colonization and multiculturalism gave the west a free ride into the 21st century but now you're going to have to accept both the good and bad that came with that free ride. Asians are the only race that was able to succeed without the help of other races (or their own kind). Unlike the Europeans, the Japanese don't get along with their neighbors. They discriminate against Chinese and Koreans. It's just amazing how successful Japan is despite the fact that they rarely get along with their Asian neighbors. Hell, if you were to subtract even one Nation from Europe like Germany or Britain, Europeans would still be living in caves. If China, Japan, and Korea, etc... had the same unity that Europe has, they'd probably be colonizing Mars right now. Europeans became successful with the help of the various ancient Arabian, Jewish, and African countries. Europe was in the middle of the known world, trading culture and knowledge with many African and Arab countries such as Egypt. I wonder how successful China would have been had their civilization spawned from the continent of Europe. But there's good news. I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by switching to GEICO. No seriously, being the minority does not mean it's the end of the world. Who cares if China will have the strongest economy and military by the year 2050. The Asians unlike the Europeans and Africans are a peaceful race. I guarantee you they wont be starting wars every 9 years (like some western Nation I know). Who cares if whites will be the minority in America. As I said above, being the minority does not mean your race is going to get dissolved. If the 3.5 Arab Americans choose to mix with other races than that is their choice. Unless someone forces them to mix, they'll continue being pure blooded Arabians. If the 1.2 million Japanese in Brazil decide to mix with other races then that is also their choice. Because at their current rate, those Arab Americans and Japanese Brazilians are in no danger of becoming dissolved. Who cares if one race gets in control of the government? What you WN fail to realize about government is that government is created by the people and for the people. Their only job is to serve us. They monitor our money and protect us from harm. Oh, and since you're not use to being the minority I'll teach you what affirmative action means. The government has always tried to create a good balance of fairness. In democracies, everybody's voice is heard. If one group is in the minority, the government will try to help that minority. It's very easy to beat down a person who is weaker than you. But what is not easy is helping someone who is weaker than you. Instead of beating down people who are weaker than you, you should try to make that person a better person so that both of you will succeed. That is the liberal philosophy. Whites have always, been in the majority, hence the reason why the government ignores you. I kept hearing David Duke whine about how every race but the white race had a group defending its people. Protip: When you're in the majority you don't need a group to defend your people. Flip the coin and put the Jews and blacks as the majority and I guarantee you there would be no such thing as AIPAC or NAACP. I notice how every thread on stormfront there's a WN complaining about the double standards of racism in America. Let me give you example. One WN said at my school blacks called me whiteboy. Can you imagine how fast I'd be labeled a racist if I called one of them blackboys. Yes there is a double standard, but the question is, why is there a double standard? Blacks have only recently received their freedom from whites. Whites out number blacks 10 to 1. To be honest with you, name calling alone never bothered blacks. The words itself does nothing. In my opinion people should be able to say whatever they feel like in our country. But it's the actions of a handful of whites that make the word n*gger much powerful than it actually is. When blacks hear that word, a trigger gets pressed in their head. Immediately they are reminded of the Africans of the 60s who got burned alive by the KKK simply because their skin color was different. So in a sense, the word itself is linked to fear. Fear leads to hate, and hate leads to violence. When blacks say whiteboy or cracker the words mean nothing. Blacks don't have a 250+ year history of discriminating against whites. Though, we do have a 250+ year history of secretly hating whites for oppressing us. You WN like to complain about the high number of black on white rape/crime. Well, blacks are equal opportunist rapist/criminals. They rape and rob from all groups equally. What ever race is in the minority should receive extra protection from the majority. If whites become the minority, Mexicans will start complaining about the double standards that you whites were complaining about. David Duke keeps saying Obama came from a racist church. What did Rev Wright say that was racist? He said America is controlled by rich white people. America IS controlled by rich white people. That'd be like a white person saying that basketball is dominated by tall black people. Basketball *is dominated by tall black people. I certainly wouldn't get offended by that. There are white people who go to his church. He even helped a white couple get married once. Rev Wright was anti American, but not racist. As a matter of fact, Rev Wright was so anti American that he joined the marines. David Duke and the rest of you WN love America so much that you've never even considered joining the army. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremia...litary_service America is the first (modern) multicultural Nation. Out of many, one. Where in the amendment does it say only Europeans can become President? It says, anybody who is born in the USA can run for President. Yes it's true that slavery was legal back in those days. But it was equal opportunity slavery. Anybody could be a slave back in those days. And anybody could have owned a slave. One WN set a link to an article that claimed the first African American slave was owned by an African. To tell you the truth, I have nothing against slavery. I just don't like racist slavery that targets one group. Africans have fought in every American war since America's conception in 1776. They've worked harder than any other race for 200+ years, but now that they've become lazy in the last few decades you want them out? Just to give you a small idea about how hard Africans have worked. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Brazilian#History Italians couldn't last two decades doing the hard work that the African American slaves did for free. But honestly, who really cares about who's in control of the government. If I was to tell you that an Asian would get elected in the year 2012 and by the time he left office America would have a 60 trillion dollar surplus. Would you vote for him? In the end, governments job is to make the Nation's people happy. You WN do NOT represent the feeling of all whites. Most whites in America love their life. And the ones who don't enjoy their lives simply don't give a damn. If whites hated the evil multicultural America as much as you WN, wouldn't stormfront receive more traffic than the average Japanese fetish website? Though I cant tell a lie. I honestly don't know how white culture/tradition will survive if whites become the minority. Culture, unlike race is too unpredictable. Modern day culture is too viral. Gangster rap, for example, is quite popular inside of Russia despite the fact that there's virtually no blacks in Russia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cvo3YVOVtY But they choose to live that lifestyle. And who died and made you the king of the white race that says they cant do that? If they're happy with themselves then what's the problem? Another example, there are practically no Americans in Japan, yet our pop culture, music, movies, etc... dominates Japan's pop culture. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI3IFNbjhGs In Japan, American rock music actually outsells Japanese rock music. As technology advances, old traditions fade away. The youth of Europe, America, and Asia no longer care about preserving their heritage. Maybe sitcoms, reality TV shows, video games, cell phones, computers, and movies have become our generation's culture. Most European and Asian traditions would be considered weird in our society. Do you WN even know the culture/heritage you're preserving? Tell me what that culture and heritage is, and tell me what purpose does it serve in our MTV poisoned society? History itself doesn't need to be preserved. No one will ever forget history. It's not like one race will one day rewrite the history books. Please don't compare us to the Subhuman Apelings ~ this is an insult of most highest degree. Oprah Winfrey? Don't make me laugh. Desperately tries hiding her nappy head, gobs of makeup detering attention from her split cow eyes, all wrapped up in White clothing. Wow, I'm just shocked and appalled by some of the blatant hatred that is seething from your replies. No matter how honest and civilized I try to be, some of you WN keep resorting to name calling. I've been coming to stormfront for a while now and for the first ever time I'm starting to wonder if the average WN is mentally stable. How can anybody be this angry? Did you even read my post? I was complimenting Caucasians. Dare I say you're behaving like some of my fellow Africans. You need to release some of your pent up hatred. Walk outside of your bunker and go up to your nearest negro/jew/Mexican and scream at the top of your lounges F*uck you! How can anybody hate Oprah. Other then her appearance, she's no different from a white women. Did a black female steal your tricycle when you were a child?
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Introduction
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Hi, I am new to this group. I have thought about joining a group like this for years, but never did until today. I think recent events pushed the envelope.
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Breton separatists in German uniform
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This is a fascinating article about the Bezen Perrot, a small separatist org in Brittany which cast its lot with the Germans, eventually donning the uniform of the SD and combatting the French resistance. They evacuated to Germany along with the retreating German forces and most were killed. The article also discusses former Bezen Perrot leader Alan Heusaff, who survived the war as an unrepentant right-wing Celtic nationalist. Their flag was the white field/black cross derived from the Duke of Brittany's, almost identical to the Teutonic Order flag. http://www.uhb.fr/langues/klask/docu...zen_perrot.pdf
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Re: .270 vs .30-06 vs .308
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How about .243 Rem.
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Re: Soviets Razed Churches But Spared Synagogues
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This isn't much different than what the Germans did in the East...in the words of negro comedian Will Smith, don't start nothin', won't be nothin'.
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Re: Soviets Razed Churches But Spared Synagogues
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huh? People in this thread were starting to opine about the poor Germans and what the Soviets did to some of them when they invaded Germany. My point is--look at what the Germans did in their burning and pillaging of Russia.
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Re: AN INFANTRYMAN'S GUIDE TO COMBAT IN BUILT-UP AREAS
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This manual was designed with Martial Law in the US and combat against armed patriots who refused to relinquish their firearms!!! Where does it say that?
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Re: How can we get rid of Affirmative Action?
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Well voting doesn't work; we know that. Only thing I can say is to move to a white area and continue to promote white separatism.
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Ditch the swastikas!
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I see nothing wrong with using the word ****** or other words however Adolf Hitler, the Nazis and their imagery have ZERO to do with the USA in 2007. That stuff does nothing but turn people off. There are a bunch of people here who have an interest in that stuff, but for whatever reason love to link it to this struggle. I have an interest in it too (to a degree), but I don't get the two confused.
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Re: help police problems what shoutl i do?
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I don't know how small your town is but you need to file an actual complaint, in writing, against this clown so that an Internal Affairs investigation can be instituted (if they even have that). Provide dates, approximate times, and witnesses. You need also to find out what you can do in case you're blown off, e.g., the State Police sometimes investigates misconduct(?) __________________ http://www.socialistparadise.net/for...read.php?t=126
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Breton separatists in German uniform
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This is a fascinating article about the Bezen Perrot, a small separatist org in Brittany which cast its lot with the Germans, eventually donning the uniform of the SD and combatting the French resistance. They evacuated to Germany along with the retreating German forces and most were killed. The article also discusses former Bezen Perrot leader Alan Heusaff, who survived the war as an unrepentant right-wing Celtic nationalist. Their flag was the white field/black cross derived from the Duke of Brittany's, almost identical to the Teutonic Order flag. http://www.uhb.fr/langues/klask/docu...zen_perrot.pdf
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Re: The reason stormfront could never be an organization is divisiveness is your stra
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To be able to sign on to my plan the requirements are: 1) European on both sides of the family 2) Conservative values 3) A Christian of honor The European-on-both-sides is a given, but the other two requirements are too restrictive, particularly the Christian part. For purposes of discussion, could you clarify what exactly is meant by conservative values ? :clink
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Re: Epic: The Story of the Waffen SS
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That his actions were heroic is undeniable. However, DeGrelle really exagerrated Hitler's socialist side, and was completely oblivious to Hitler's views regarding Pan-Europeanism. DeGrelle saw the Hitler he wanted to see, not the real man. I remember reading how he once argued with Hitler 8 hours over how the Russian Slavs should be treated. DeGrelle was pro-Russian. Of course, none of this mattered, and none of this changed a damn thing regarding what happened on the Eastern Front. If memory serves me correctly, that argument must have taken place AFTER the beginning of the Leningrad blockade. The Waffen SS are the equal of any great fighting force that ever existed in the history of the planet. Their physical standards and code of conduct made them probably the most capable and moral group of men to ever see combat. You may make the case that some of the SS divisions could fall into that category, certainly not all of them. In fact most SS divisions on average were no better than the Heer (German army). Moral? Are you forgetting the millions of white civilians who were murdered and starved? Unfortunately they disportunately paid the ultimate price for their devotion to duty. Some day the world will recognise what these men did in their attempt to advance western culture. How did the SS advance Western culture?
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Re: Epic: The Story of the Waffen SS
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For the record, and to avoid confusion, I need to point out that the above poster inadvertently incorporated his response along with my post into one quote. To compare the German army with the Waffen-SS is not to compare like with like. The the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 5th Waffen-SS divisions were essentially composed of highly motivated volunteers who, from 1943, were generally better equipped than their army equivalents, who were overwhelmingly conscripts compulsorily called to the colours. The entire rest of the Waffen SS divisions were a mixed bag at best. The nearest equivalent in the German Army to the largely volunteer and well equipped Waffen-SS divisions of 1943-45 was the Grossdeutschland Division. Its battlefield results and willingness to take casualties were in no way inferior to any Waffen-SS division. In fact it is believed by many observers that the alleged higher casualty rate of the Waffen SS is largely a myth. The miracle of the German armed forces is not that well equipped volunteer units like the cited Waffen-SS divisions fought well, but that so many of the under trained, under equipped army divisions stood up to the test of battle. For example, the German division that defended Aachen so determinedly against the Americans in late 1944 was not even a Feldheer formation. It belonged to the Ersatzheer (Replacement Army) and was merely a training and replacement formation never even intended for combat. You also cited dubious statistics in regards the enemy's casualty figures when facing the SS. Cite your sources. Also, the Waffen SS was not successful wherever they engaged the enemy; that patently is not true... Also, the Waffen SS did receive conscripts, particularly the European volunteers. My opinion was and is that the Waffen-SS was a complete waste of time militarily. Its men achieved nothing in the Waffen-SS that they couldn't have achieved in the army. Indeed, given the generally higher professionalism of the army's senior leadership I would suggest that Waffen-SS manpower would probably have been more use to Germany in the army. It would certainly have been less wasteful in terms of duplicated training facilities etc. As to the old dodge that there must be a distinction between the Allgemeine SS and the Waffen SS--I must point out that they were two wings on the same bird. Personnel were exchanged between the two groups; not only that, but from where do you think the Totenkopf Division was raised? They were raised from concentration camp guards. The fact that you used the term alleged death squads is also very telling. Why say that, when you already attempt to distance the Waffen SS from the Allgemeine SS? In regards you assertion that anyone in the SS was declared a war criminal, again, this is not factual. There it was explicitly stated that membership of the SS was not of itself a crime. Like anyone else, specific SS men had to be charged with a specific crime. It is true that the Waffen-SS was declared a criminal organisation at Nuremberg. However, there was a reason for this. This was because, due its particular character as an institution, its men were far more likely to be involved in war crimes than other branches of the Wehrmacht. (For example, of four massacres of their civilians that the French brought up at Nuremberg, three were committed by the Waffen-SS, yet W-SS men comprised 5% or less of the German manpower in France). What really condemns the Waffen-SS as a criminal organisation is the demonstrably better behavior of the German Army, which was campaigning under identical operational conditions to the Waffen-SS. After Army complaints about SS indiscipline in Poland in 1939, the Waffen-SS was withdrawn from coverage by military law and thereafter, as an institution, was held to different standards from the Army. This is laughable: As far as white civilians go, many east europeans seem willing to indict Germans in general and the SS in particular for war crimes while overlooking the fact that it was white eastern europeans who acted as the willing enforcers of zionist/communist/jewish domination of russia and eastern europe. They should indict them; after all, it was they who were victimized/used by them. The word Zionist in the above quote is laughable. There was no Zionist phenomenon in Russia. You can't even make the claim that there was Jewish domination of Russia, either. At any rate Zionism in that regard is an absolute non-issue. I can't believe you said that. At the end of the day defenders of the Waffen-SS as a military institution must justify its existence by producing some evidence that it represented value added over and above the already high standards maintained by the German Army. This they cannot do.
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Re: Epic: The Story of the Waffen SS
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To compare the German army with the Waffen-SS is not to compare like with like. The the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 5th Waffen-SS divisions were essentially composed of highly motivated volunteers who, from 1943, were generally better equipped than their army equivalents, who were overwhelmingly conscripts compulsorily called to the colours. The entire rest of the Waffen SS divisions were a mixed bag at best. The nearest equivalent in the German Army to the largely volunteer and well equipped Waffen-SS divisions of 1943-45 was the Grossdeutschland Division. Its battlefield results and willingness to take casualties were in no way inferior to any Waffen-SS division. In fact it is believed by many observers that the alleged higher casualty rate of the Waffen SS is largely a myth. The miracle of the German armed forces is not that well equipped volunteer units like the cited Waffen-SS divisions fought well, but that so many of the under trained, under equipped army divisions stood up to the test of battle. For example, the German division that defended Aachen so determinedly against the Americans in late 1944 was not even a Feldheer formation. It belonged to the Ersatzheer (Replacement Army) and was merely a training and replacement formation never even intended for combat. You also cited dubious statistics in regards the enemy's casualty figures when facing the SS. Cite your sources. Also, the Waffen SS was not successful wherever they engaged the enemy; that patently is not true... Also, the Waffen SS did receive conscripts, particularly the European volunteers. My opinion was and is that the Waffen-SS was a complete waste of time militarily. Its men achieved nothing in the Waffen-SS that they couldn't have achieved in the army. Indeed, given the generally higher professionalism of the army's senior leadership I would suggest that Waffen-SS manpower would probably have been more use to Germany in the army. It would certainly have been less wasteful in terms of duplicated training facilities etc. As to the old dodge that there must be a distinction between the Allgemeine SS and the Waffen SS--I must point out that they were two wings on the same bird. Personnel were exchanged between the two groups; not only that, but from where do you think the Totenkopf Division was raised? They were raised from concentration camp guards. The fact that you used the term alleged death squads is also very telling. In regards you assertion that anyone in the SS was declared a war criminal, again, this is not factual. There it was explicitly stated that membership of the SS was not of itself a crime. Like anyone else, specific SS men had to be charged with a specific crime. It is true that the Waffen-SS was declared a criminal organisation at Nuremberg. However, there was a reason for this. This was because, due its particular character as an institution, its men were far more likely to be involved in war crimes than other branches of the Wehrmacht. (For example, of four massacres of their civilians that the French brought up at Nuremberg, three were committed by the Waffen-SS, yet W-SS men comprised 5% or less of the German manpower in France). What really condemns the Waffen-SS as a criminal organisation is the demonstrably better behavior of the German Army, which was campaigning under identical operational conditions to the Waffen-SS. After Army complaints about SS indiscipline in Poland in 1939, the Waffen-SS was withdrawn from coverage by military law and thereafter, as an institution, was held to different standards from the Army. This is laughable: As far as white civilians go, many east europeans seem willing to indict Germans in general and the SS in particular for war crimes while overlooking the fact that it was white eastern europeans who acted as the willing enforcers of zionist/communist/jewish domination of russia and eastern europe. They should indict them; after all, it was they who were victimized/used by them. The word Zionist in the above quote is laughable. There was no Zionist phenomenon in Russia. You can't even make the claim that there was Jewish domination of Russia, either. At any rate Zionism in that regard is an absolute non-issue. I can't believe you said that. At the end of the day defenders of the Waffen-SS as a military institution must justify its existence by producing some evidence that it represented value added over and above the already high standards maintained by the German Army. This they cannot do.
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Re: NSM - POMONA RALLY
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Footage: You Tube Thanks, guys, for coming out. We've got a lot of scum out here and we need as much agitation as possible.
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Re: NSM - POMONA RALLY
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I hope our side got plenty of video footage to show Whites that this is what they have to look familiar to when we become the minority. This footage features some Mexcian-American guy who is more mainstream-looking, posing as the voice of reason while he debates his scumbag brethren about how counter-demonstrations don't matter since we're out-breeding their asses, etc. These demonstrations are great because it gets your garden variety mestizos fired up, and they openly state what they really feel. There's another Pomona clip on YouTube where some old mexican-american hag goes on about how this is our land, and they took it, and now they are here protesting. These swine make no bones about the racial animus towards whites...not the US government of yore, not vague references to centuries-old decisions, but animus towards whites personally. This is wonderful. Your average mestizo thinks he has some sort of noble birthright to be here, and you do not. You Tube
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Re: Cop shoots daughter, thinking she's a burglar.
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Pos reps to everyone on this thread. I'm also sure people here have read about incidents where cops spray and pray, missing the suspect yet endangering the entire neighborhood. Speaking from first-hand (witness, not participant) experience, many of them also have an alarming tendency, when drinking with the boys off-duty, to draw their weapons and celebratorily start capping off. You know what would happen if we were to do that, right?
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Re: 2,000 SC Guardsmen Sent to Arizona to Help
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Unfortunately, it's 120 soldiers at a time (2,000 soldiers total will participate in rotating shifts). As usual with Jorge Bush, it's always a drop in the bucket when it comes to border defense. We may wind up spending a trillion dollars in Iraq, but we won't spend a few billion to build a complete wall and properly man it. The illegals are costing us at least five billion a year in social services in California. We would be saving the taxpayers money by sealing off the border. That's OK, according to a studied analysis by State Senator Tom McClintock, CA will be insolvent in about a year. Yeah, that's when the fun begins. There are millions of Mestizos here already and even a concerted effort at the border is not going to do anything. These filth will just keep pouring in here and the sooner this place comes crashing down, the better. Remember boys and girls: worse is better for now. You have to look at it that way.
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Re: U.S. to allow 7,000 Iraqi refugees in!
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Exactly. These returning White vets are probably our best and last hope for cleaning our own house. We need to win them over to WNism at all costs! Everthing about American WNism, including Stormfront, should be geared toward winning the hearts and minds of these veterans. K These vets' value is absolutely worthless to WN. What do they have that is so special? These people are either wiggers or Christian pro-Zionists, many of whom think that Iraq was involved with Sept. 11. They are absolutely useless.
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Re: To American WNs
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Brothers and sisters. We need to re-assert our nationalistic identity into our WN message. We are faced with a absolute gold mine in quality recruits with the returning vets from the War on Terror.' They will prove invaluable in the coming storm. We should do everything possible to bring them in from the cold short of abandoning our core belief in racial separation. There should be no argument or debate here. Instead of reading more about NS Germany you would be well-advised to seek knowledge about our White Supremacist/Seperatist Founding Fathers to argue our position intelligently. Jews and those who subscribe to jewish-inspired liberalism will try to hijack your message otherwise as being un-American, but with a solid factual knowledge base to draw from, their efforts will prove unsuccessful. Such a nationalistic race-based message will go over much better than simply a race-based one. Remember, we are White NATIONALISTS and in our particular case that means White American Nationalists. It doesn't change our message one iota when it comes to jews, our traitorous government, or in any other area. Just trying to point out the obvious to those who have missed it so far. :) K Yeah but veterans are a bunch of patriotards. They are of no use to us.
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Re: To American WNs
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I am a veteren.:mad: and I know quite a few racially aware vets. Big deal; it's not enough to be racially aware.
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Re: To American WNs
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Yeah these disciplined and motivated veterans are going to do what, now? Because it's really a moot point if they're a bunch of flag wavers.
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Re: To American WNs
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Maybe I am on to something here?:rolleyes: Perhaps people who understand operational planning and tactics might be a bit more of an asset than net-nazis. Course again I could be wrong . Right but most people who were in the military know little or nothing about operational planning or tactics.
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Re: To American WNs
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one of your smileys is packing a FA-MAS rifle. I thought only the flag waving surrender monkey French carried Fa-MAS rifle.:cool: Must have gotten a good deal on it. Never been fired and only dropped once. :rofl Before I get flamed I remember that the french fought hard against communism in Algeria and Vietnam. And I have heard of a French RAC band. http://www.exile.ru/2003-October-02/war_nerd.html
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Re: To American WNs
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And you do...:rofl Did you read the frigging post I was answering? I'm starting to resign myself to the fact that a disproportionate number of posters on SF are about 18 or so.
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Re: To American WNs
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Flag waving is not a bad thing...Its the ones who forget what the flag was supposed to mean that are in error. Could you expand upon this point? You seem to be asserting that WN = returning this country to an earlier time (which is impossible btw).
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Re: To American WNs
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Veterans useless? Let me put this in perspective for you. I'm not naming names but there's atleast two Drill Instructors who are currently employed at MCRD PI that speak our language. Trust me on that, my Uncle is a DI. Yeah but what do you mean, exactly, when you say they speak our language? Right-wing they're taking our guns stuff doesn't count. Next, there's Aryans Nations graffiti in Baghdad and a Navy SEAL who was discharged a few years back for being a neo Nazi. That one individual is golden--just due to the training he's received and could pass on. Don't forget the herd of 'closet' skins in the 82nd Airborne, either. Remember Ruby Ridge? The father was a former Special Forces Soldier. Remember McVeigh? Despite his actions at OK City--he still was a decorated veteran. These are good signs, if true, but how widespread are they? Again, are these guys basically right-wingers who like to scribble swastikas on walls, or are they revolutionaries? George Wallace? Army Air Corps. That doesn't count. The fact that he was in the Air Corps doesn't mean anything. And I doubt very highly that George Wallace would approve of people here with swastika avatars, seeing as he was in WW II.... David Duke? Army ROTC--until he was thrown out for his beliefs. Still counts in my book because he showed the intent to be a Soldier. That absolutely does not count. He got into the ROTC--what kind of training or tactics does that bring to the table? Zero. There's countless swastika's and anti-Jewish writing on walls inside port-a-potties, heads (bathrooms) and other facilities inside the Recruit Depot at PI alone. It's quite a sight--14/88's carved on racks (beds/bunks). Again, I hope we can start to evolve out of the swastika-scribbling loser image. The military is a breeding ground for white nationalism. I hope so, but I doubt it. Too many of them are multi-cult lemmings and too many are flag-wavers and Rebublican lovers. And bottom line, let's face it. Adolf Hitler himself was a SOLDIER and much of his inner circle were veterans of World War I. If Hitler thought the same way of veterans--the Third Reich would've just been a recurring wet dream of his. No--post-WW I Germany is not analogous to 21st Century USA. Totally different.
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Re: To American WNs
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I guess what I meant is that opposing the inclusion and active recruitment of former military members makes about as much sense as communism. (doesn't mean I am calling anyone a communist, Why are you so hung up on communism?
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Re: To American WNs
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Well I'll start with the first three... Because I went to college and had people preaching to me about diversity. Doesn't have much, if anything, to do with communism. Because I was born during vietnam. and my uncle was at con thien and khe san with the US Navy Construction Batallions. What the hell does that have to do with anything? Because I saw the movie 'Red Dawn' as a kid and dreamed about becoming a mercenary so me and my friends I could kill some commies in central america. :rofl
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Re: To American WNs
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The social theory of communism holds that all peoples are equal and there are no races..hence diversity issues. That's a bit of a stretch. My uncle spilled blood fighting communists in south east asia. That is irrelevent how? My father's brother and I share my grandfathers blood. As far as I am concerned communism has spilled the blood of my family. That makes it personal to me. [/quote] That's an even greater stretch...OK, what if he spilled blood against the Nazis? See how ridiculous this gets?
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Re: Antis who pose as WNs and try to make us look stupid
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What really bothers me is people who post here that condone behavior and tactics that anti's exactly accuse us of... Comments like advocating the genocide of non-European races. Now why would any self-respecting WN condone or even entertain such thoughts? How is that different than adopting usernames/avatars of a genocidal regime?
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Re: NW Migration Web Presence
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I hate to sound pessimistic but the only people I see migrating into the NW are Mexicans! While I fully support NW Homeland etc, I have to echo Mark Hart's thoughts. Is there any agitation on the part of the NW people, against the Mestizos up there? They should start that right away.
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Re: Tom Metzger
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thanks I have his site on favorites now:clink Terrible Tommy's my frigging hero! Please, check out his audio clips too, in his archives--the majority are good stuff. He's an activist and a fighter who's grown and evolved over the years. I can't believe you've never heard of him! He's a WN icon, IMO.
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Re: Tom Metzger
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i was told that part of his court settlement was that he would keep w.a.r. going and all names and contacts made or involvment with his organisation or any other would be turned over to the adl with half of all donations or other income .northwestern pioneers association (Harold Arnold Covington)might have the documentation that is what a freind of mine was quoting it from. Not the ADL. The allegation was that the SPLC, who sued him, have a receiver who somehow obtains X per cent of donations to WAR.
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Re: Tom Metzger
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Also, WN's should heed Metzger's advice about getting out of this right-wing rut that many are in.
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Re: Tom Metzger
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What and go Left-wing? Are you kidding me? You're joking, right? You actually think that there are only two ideological alternatives? No thanks! Its the jewish Left-wing, specifically modern liberalism, which got us into this mess, not the Right-wing philosophy. Again I repeat, sometimes the most progressive among us are the ones who recognize the error of our path and retrace our course to the beginning (for American WNs I'm referring to the intended American Republic here with this statement and not its current form). Neo-conservatism is just another dimension of jewish liberalism so don't come back with examples of those idiots as somehow representing the Right-wing. K You think con$ervatives didn't help get us into this mess too? You're going to exonerate them? You keep harping on the right wing like it's some kind of new dogma that you just discovered and you're trying to turn everybody else on to it. No, Metzger wasn't referring to the neo-cons per se. He was referring to everything including the Birchers and the racist right. He's been there and done that, and grown and evolved, as have I. A wise man changes his mind; a fool never does.
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Re: Tom Metzger
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Harold Covington wasn't the only one who claimed that. Dr. Fields reported in The Truth At Last during the 90's that some letters that were sent to WAR wound up being used in court cases against White Nationalists. They claimed that somebody was appointed by the court (after the Metger's trial) opened the mail that was sent to W.A.R., and half of the donations were sent to the family of the Ethiopian who was killed in Oregon. I don't trust Covington at all - but I do trust Dr. Fields and TTAL. Tim That whole business with Metzger's PO box is disturbing although it must be remembered that Ed Fields had GLR beaten up. In fact, in the audio clip that Modern Warrior provided, Metzger mentioned that GLR successfully sued Fields over something which had to do with Fields' slander or libel of GLR.
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Re: US Considering Introducing Limited* Military Draft
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It takes a special person to be a part of the Army so it will never happen. The US Army is filled with dregs and idiots; they're not in anyway special. In fact the US Army now takes people with TWO felony convictions.
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Re: Socialist vs. Capitalist
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Are there many people here who consider themselves Strasserites? __________________ http://www.socialistparadise.net/forum/index.php
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Re: France in state of perpetual non white urban warfare
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Yes although I think we should support France more, especially in this era of anti-French sentiment engendered by the neo-con types.
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Re: Update from David Irving
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Holocaust denial is a losing proposition for WN's. Anyone who engages in it, is a fool.
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Re: Did you ever notice how a negro holds a pistol
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I've seen a black cop on the professional LAPD hold his pistol that way.
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Re: Hugo Chavez reconsidered
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I'd NEVER make excuses for people like this: I'D CLAIM THEM EVERY SINGLE DAY AS MY BRETHEREN!!! Regardless of HOW they take their stance, they stand for WHITES! THANK GOD for them! People who strut around in a hodge-podge of uniforms of a 60+ year-old European regime, are an embarrassment to White Nationalism. If you will not understand this, you are part of the problem.
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Re: Hugo Chavez reconsidered
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Venezuela is a mostly mestizo country; they have every right to live any way they want, just like Europe has the right to live any way it wanted (too late now, ZOG has picked up the european check). White people belong in white countries, blacks in black countries, browns in brown countries, and we should all mutually respect eachother and these boundaries. I DON'T CARE if Chavez is pro-negro. BTW, Chavez' vice president, Rangel, is white himself.
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Re: Hugo Chavez reconsidered
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But, but, but... Chavez stands against zionism! My golly, he's gotta be with us! Hell, if its that easy to fool WNs, Zionists could just say they hate zionism and trick us into being their allies. Yeah but I could just as easily say that about you, since you support guys who wear Nutzi costumes, just because they're on the side of whites. The fact that he may be against zionism is a small part.
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Good man
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I think he would be a better US president than George W. Bush. It's a pity he wasn't born in the USA. Anyone who stands up to the Imperialist interlopers has my support. This is his homepage: http://www.president.ir/eng/
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Re: Hugo Chavez reconsidered
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I have no need to think about this wetback, all I know he is a wet back playing word games, we should kick his ass and take his oil at the same time kick the jew and his dog the mulims out of this country You're joking, right?
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New Blog: Why L.A. Sucks
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To all the So Cal people here (and outside as well): http://lasucksbigtime.blogspot.com/ Brand new pro-white blog filled with observations about the multi-cult dump that is the greater L.A. area, and southern California in general. It's not a con$ervative site either. The guy tells the truth!
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Re: Karl Marx, a man I admire.
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Say what you want about Marxism, but where was the white race more preserved, in the USSR and former satellites, or USA and decadent Europe? :rofl Marx was anti-black by the way.
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Re: The Fall of America
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The majority of white Americans will interbreed with muds. That alone is enough to guarantee that there won't be any major racial conflict. If there is, it would have to be very soon, before whites are absorbed. But most whites are worthless anyway. Chittum's book is interesting but it's just wild speculation.
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Idiotic post
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If the U.N. s troops were sent in to grab our guns ,and we killed them in the process ,would we be tried as murderers ,or combatants? I was talking to a few guys @ a local gunshop and they said eventually the democrats would get our guns,if that happens I am going to defend my rights to the bitter end or until victory! Is this some kind of a joke?
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Re: U.N. occupation
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This is a bunch of Art Bell bull sh!t and I think it's embarrassing to WN, frankly.
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Re: U.N. occupation
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you would be making a huge mistake to tie this to an ART BELL show. I have a PhD. in history. I have been a student of history and western civilization my whole life I am qualified enough to tell you that arms in the hands of citizens Are a fundemental threat to tyranical oppresive goverments. ALL of the worlds genocides are no more then TWO (2) degrees of seperation from arms control from the hands of private citizens. Those citizens after being disarmed beacame subjects , after the subjegation they were exterminated. for you to fail to realize the true severe nature of your un educated experience/ opinion and for you to failure to realize that all that is needed for Evil to triumph over good honest men , is that Good men do nothing. you call it paranoia from where you sit...... my view is more in focus and uses historical FACTS .... Sir , What you sadly call paranoia is truly a heighted sense of perception. If you have any questions about any thing please feel free to PM me, we all are entitled to our own opinons , but we are not entitled to our own set of FACTS. I find it rather hard to believe that someone with a PhD in history thinks what you just wrote.
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Re: U.N. occupation
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first of all I got it off of Prison Planet.com...and I don't f'ing appreciate you badgering me about the issue and questioning my credibility:mad: you say it doesn't exist and expect me to go on a cross country trip to verify the info:eek: F U You also come across as a blowhard, especially with this FU business. Don't know if you're aware of it or not.
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Move over God, Son of the Mist is speaking
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He is 100% factually correct.. instead of insulting him why don't you try to gain credibility by logically refuting it? I'll tell you why...Because you can't... :rolleyes: He just stated an outrageous personal opinion...you call that 100% factually correct? This is what bothers me about WN; nobody takes the time to challenge bizarre assertions. It's just one big circle jerk and when someone counters it, they're called a pinko or a liberal or a commie. WTF is this, the John Birch Society? It's like this stuff is scripted! Hey Edith, stifle yerself!
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Re: Move over God, Son of the Mist is speaking
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It bothers me when people don't substantiate what they're saying. But what bothers me even more is when people who don't consider themselves White Nationalists come onto this forum (SF, martial arts and prepardness section) and start talking about what's wrong with White Nationalism. If you aren't a WN, then post in OV. It's okay to disagree and to poke holes in something you think to be stupid. That's normal and I actually do that myself. But by separating yourself from other White Racialists (if you are one) the only thing you're doing is creating dissention among us. And that's plain out stupid if you're a White Racialist. Well what's the definition of White Nationalist? It's an extemely broad definition to begin with. I've always used that term but it's getting to the point that I don't know if I can use it because there are too many White Nationalists who are either warmed over conservatives, or Hitler-worshippers who scream that the US gov't is getting ready to exterminate us. To the guy who got all huffy because I mentioned the Birchers, well it just so happens that they've debunked this very issue, about black helicopters, concentration camps, etc . They don't buy into most of that either.
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Re: Move over God, Son of the Mist is speaking
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To me it would mean two things. The US military has all sorts of plans for every contingency, it doesn't really mean anything. They have plans available that map out strategies to invade Canada, but that doesn't mean that they're intending on doing that, it just means that they have plans for just about everything under the sun. It does make sense that concentration camps (they'd call them something else) would be constructed if there was widespread civil disorder or a civil war in the US, such a strategy has been used in every civil war. Some people see these plans and some of them think that because the US military has these plans that something is going on right now just because the military thought enough about it to come up with something in the first place. See what I mean? I fully understand, and totally agree, with what you just wrote. I realize the US military has contingency plans for the damndest of things, and don't doubt for a minute that there are plans, however old, for the internment of large numbers of Americans. My beef is: A) too many White Nationalists are taking things out of context and swallowing everything they hear and B) they dream up nutty fantasy scenarios about the government confiscating all guns in order to exterminate us.
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Many white workers would support socialism
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We often react to party labels rather than to the actual proposals which are put before us. This was demonstrated very clearly in a study in which farmers and workers in the United States were interviewed with respect to their voting intentions, their party preferences, and their approval or disapproval of various lines of action. They were found to disapprove of Socialist and Communist parties and candidates, and yet approve of the measures proposed by these parties rather more than those proposed by their more conservative opponents . When it is a question of election, therefore, these people would have voted against the measures which they actually favoured because of their stereotyped view of Socialism. -H.J. Eysenck, Uses and Abuses of Psychology , page 249
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Re: Many white workers would support socialism
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How many former Trotskyites have come out as open neo-cons? The Che-Lovers like to state that Stalinists take that route but I think the statistical evidence proves otherwise.
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Re: Many white workers would support socialism
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Ever hear of 'Social Security? Try finding a job in the United States without being a card carrying member of this Socialist collective. What's your point?
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Re: When mexicans are a majority, can they make Mexico a U.S State?
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so they f*ck their disgusting indian/mestizo brownie wifes instead of the beatifull white european descendants girls up there in the US. Well fortunately I don't think we have to worry about that part...
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Re: best first handgun for home defense?
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Good condition used Smith and Wesson K frame .357 magnum.. you can shoot the hot .38 Specials in it too and the target loads are cheap. I would recommend a M19 or M65 with 3 or 4 inch barrel if you can find one. Everyone should have one, IMO.. reliable as a rock, cheap ammo, in .357 [with a good 125 grain hollowpoint] it's a real manstopper and it's one of the easiest cartridges to reload for if you ever take up reloading I agree, although I'd recommend the 158 grain semi-wadcutter hollow point (so-called FBI load). The other thing is, if he has neighbors directly on the other side of the wall (i.e., apartment/condo), then ammunition needs will be different. He'd probably have to get Glasers.
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Re: The final straw - apathy from fellow White brethren
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Agreed, I hate to say it, but large segments of the population probably need to be forced into poverty and out of their sheltered lives before they will come around. This bears repeating.
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Re: WN Fixation of Naziism
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I feel that they were one of the only regimes in modern times that represented the things we are facing today. Could you explain what you mean? Because they faught a regime that ended up killing a hundred million. With all due respect, that doesn't make a lot of sense. You're stating that you support Naziism because the Russians ended up killing more people?
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Re: WN Fixation of Naziism
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The only Whites that died in Nazi Germany were race traitors, communists, homosexuals and Jew sympathizers and the disabled. So What? The Nazis are responsible for the deaths of millions in other countries. Do you not know about Generalplan Ost? I'd imagine that many of the same people here who (retroactively) live vicariously through the exploits of the Hitlerites, are the same ones who, I would imagine, believe in the saying at the upper left of this page, in that Celtic cross: White Pride, World Wide. But it's kind of hard to do that when you lionize a regime that engaged in White Genocide, World Wide, in the name of German Nationalism.
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Re: WN Fixation of Naziism
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Anyway, as per the latest poll on this subject located on another section of this site, only about a quarter to a third of us are self-declared national socialists. But in this context (21st Century Amerikwa), what exactly does the national in National Socialist mean? __________________ http://www.socialistparadise.net/forum/index.php
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