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Re: Hugo Chavez reconsidered
Chavez is as much a marxist as Castro (who was a great admirer of Mussolini and involved in the Peronista movement before taking power). Chavez is a nationalist and a socialist; this does not make him a red. Was Strasser a Red?
Re: Hugo Chavez reconsidered
with a eye to arming the red brownies for a future revolution against American Whites. K I don't think the muds here are red but isn't this what you want (i.e., uprising against us)? I hope they try sh!t. Bring it on!
Re: 'Cops Will Cry' Graffiti Lists Police Officers' Names, Patrol Car Numbers
Remember why we are here. We are celebrating the glory of our heritage, protecting our sovereignty, and preserving our legacy for tomorrow. We must be the proud people that we are, the heralds of Western culture and inventors of the modern world. We must have order to prosper. Well the heralds of western culture have lost the war. BTW, I hope when you say soevereignty you're not referring to US sovereignty. Police are necessary defenders of the public, especially in the brewing ethnic stew of today. Up to a point. And in the ethnic stew the illegal sp!c is to receive equal treatment; remember that...and more and more cops are minorities these days. Cops generally aren't going to side with you. If anything, they side with those who wear the uniform. Remember that the police you would normally be dealing with are but soldiers. Those who write laws and set policy are the ones causing most of the problem. No, you can't write it off that they're just following orders. These guys do it with zeal. The negative attitude many officers show toward us is also related to our poor public image and media demonization. So, we must teach them the truth. Always show your quality in any situation. Look, these cops won't like us no matter how respectful we act. And the more respectful we act, the more impotent we are. Where I live, many cops have contempt for anyone who isn't a cop, let alone a WN. These bastards are on the point of the spear of the very gov't we hate. We need to quit exonerating them from guilt.
Re: 'Cops Will Cry' Graffiti Lists Police Officers' Names, Patrol Car Numbers
Here's a very interesting article on all the thugs on the LAPD: http://www.taemag.com/issues/article...cle_detail.asp Also, next time some ADL-indocrtinated pigs really stick it to you and do some creative report writing or kick your ass, I'm going to have a hard time blaming some distant legislator or policy maker, whatever that is.
Re: 'Cops Will Cry' Graffiti Lists Police Officers' Names, Patrol Car Numbers
Also don't forget that a lot of cops believe that only they and the military should own firearms.
sorry, he's not a commie
I wish you people would start your own forum, seriously. Just who in hell are you people? And in regards the other posters' assertion about communism, no , Chavez isn't a communist. He's a Bolivarianist. Bolivarianist is a South-American movement that is somewhat similar to ideologies such as national socialism and fascism but far less radical. They represent both social changes and the creation of a self-sufficient pan-South-American state free from European and North-American interference. Chavez is a supporter of social-democracy. Just because he uses the word socialism doesn't mean he's a communist.
I think we should forego the swazis and Hitler avatars
I really think it would be a good idea to have a moratorium on swastika avatars and Hitler avatars, or any others that smack of Nazism (SS imagery etc). I mean we already can't use swear words, why not ban the Nazi junk? It only marginalizes us and gives ammunition to our opponents. Also, WW II was a long time ago and this isn't Germany. It has nothing to do with us. Again, it's just blatanly offensive and turns people off, including potential converts.
Re: New Song: Jew Talk Up at YouTube
You are invited to make copies at places like and post it yourself, or even make your own video versions of it. This bears repeating. When you do upload, don't use Jew Talk or any obvious words in the title, as JewTube actively searches for them. If you do, the clip will be deleted within a couple days. Also, don't list obvious words or phrases as search tags, for the same reason. This clip is catching on fast; by my count there are nine versions up within the last four or five days. I you have Firefox there's a free add-on you can download which makes copying clips easy.
A critical examination of WN
The following is a very eloquent treatise that a friend wrote about WN and its inherent problems; members of this forum would do well to read it and discuss some of the things mentioned, and how we could draw from them for the betterment of our movement. ---------------------------------------------------- Key Ideological Flaws of White Nationalism PART I: Oversimplification Outsiders often wonder what draws people to embrace ideologies such as White Nationalism(WN). Most opponents of the ideology will attribute it to simple concepts like “ignorance”, “prejudice”, or “hate”. These simplistic answers may bring comfort to those that wish to see the world in black and white terms, but they are wholly inaccurate. White Nationalism, like other ideologies of our time, is a product of material conditions, and that which draws people to this often misunderstood worldview is quite complicated. Pride, identity, and nationalism are part of the cause, of course; but there are certain key features of the ideology that make it appealing in world filled with uncertainty, complications, and rapid change brought on by the advance of capitalism. This article is primarily dedicated to examining those appealing features, in the interest of shedding some light on a movement or sub-culture that is generally mischaracterized and poorly appraised by nearly every observer, including some within it’s own ranks. In addition to this, it examines the inherent flaws in the ideology, rather than just dealing with some of its claims. To understand White Nationalism one must look at the core beliefs of other “worldviews” that exist in American politics. Starting with the most mainstream, we have two major groups- “conservatives” and “liberals”. At the time of this writing, there are several key issues that can describe both groups. Conservatives are generally Christian, they believe in “family values”, unquestioning patriotism toward the United States, particularly in regards to military actions, and they tend to be hostile to government spending on social programs. Liberals by contrast, tend to support what they feel is “progressive”- gay rights, equality, and they at least still pay a lot of lip-service toward social programs and help for the working man. This is not to label each group in a definitive manner, because one can see grave inconsistencies within both the conservative and liberal camps. The basic premise here is that these two major groups have a list of key issues that more-or-less define them in the public eye. Aside from these mainstream and relatively moderate positions, there are those ideologies which have far more depth, possessing deep ideological roots. One example is the Libertarian movement, which at times seems to uphold “liberal” values, while generally supporting a “conservative” economic view that favors business and laissez-faire capitalism. To followers of the “conservative” or “liberal” view, this may seem like inconsistency, but in reality it is due to Libertarianism’s core beliefs that revolve around “liberty” and individual freedom. Then there is White Nationalism, which also seems to borrow from the American right and left. This is because WN has a core belief- race. Now we must examine what it means when we say that the core belief of White Nationalism is race. Essentially, what it means is that the White Nationalist worldview is based on the idea that race has been, is, or should be the determining factor in history, social issues, ideology, etc. What this means in short is that where a conservative may see a social problem as being the fault of government intervention, and a liberal may blame the “religious right”, WN adherents see a racial issue at hand. Factors like economics, environmental conditions, or religion are considered peripheral to the central issue of race. This creates a worldview which, superficially, is remarkably simple. Rather than considering a number of factors, a White Nationalist need only look at one issue. The single issue of race is the first thing that creates appeal to White Nationalism. It is simplistic, reducing all issues to a matter of white versus non-white. Revered works of White Nationalist literature such as March of the Titans by Arthur Kemp portray nearly all of human history in the context of a struggle between races. On one hand this is attractive because talk of race as an important factor in society has become very taboo in the West, due to the needs of the capitalist system. But more important is the simplification this worldview provides- reducing nearly every complicated issue down to one word. Of course for those that are opposed to the machinations of modern society, there is a serious question that naturally arises when one notices those holding the reigns of power in Western society are themselves white. If modern society is “anti-white”, but the leaders of this society are also white themselves, how can one explain the contradiction if one assumes that race is a determining factor in history? Enter the “Jewish Question”. Technically the “Jewish question” is part of the single core belief of White Nationalism, though it may seem like a separate core belief based on how it is treated in White Nationalist circles. It is not the purpose of this article to deal with the long history of anti-Semitism, but rather to analyze the role of the Jewish question in aiding modern White Nationalism’s core belief by paving over an otherwise blatant internal contradiction. To begin, let us agree for the moment with White Nationalism’s core belief that race is the deciding factor in civilization, history, conflict, etc. When we look at White Nationalists’ complaints about modern society however, we see that those in power during this time were themselves white. So did this “white race” suddenly decide, around the beginning of the 19th century, to start deliberately destroying itself by facilitating the influx of non-European immigration into European dominated lands? What caused the whites in charge to embrace and even enforce multiculturalism, feminism, socialism, and every other idea which is so fervently opposed by White Nationalism? The answer from White Nationalists though, is that these people in power were in fact not white at all, but Jewish. Again, ignoring the dynamics and history of anti-Semitism, we must confine ourselves in the scope of this article, to examining some of the issues that make White Nationalism appealing to many people. As we have introduced White Nationalism’s core belief in race, and its supplementary Jewish question, we approach an answer- simplicity. Both conservatives and liberals are more or less dependent on various pundits and ideologues to provide them with answers as to what policies and ideas are “right” or “wrong” in today’s society. White Nationalists on the other hand, have a body of literature from long dead philosophers and right-wing leaders, but the simplistic core belief in the racial/Jewish question keeps the movement more or less in line. This means that while a liberal or conservative may see a news story and wait for some interpretation through a pundit or intellectual, a White Nationalist already has the “tools” he needs to form an opinion on virtually any issue. In addition to simplicity, this also gives the illusion of independent thinking. On one hand, these beliefs are against the mainstream view, giving White Nationalism a certain feel of exclusivity. The feeling of knowing something that the general populace is completely unaware of seems to have powerful effects. While liberals and conservatives see a host of various loosely associated enemies, White Nationalists are convinced that they see the real cause behind all the trouble in the world, the international Jew. This gives the White Nationalist worldview a sort of “revealed knowledge”; as ancient mystery cults offered explanations for the processes of nature, White Nationalism provides a comprehensive answer for complex political problems in a simple package, the Jew. Also like a mystery cult, White Nationalism has it’s own sort of myth which explains the answer. Before explaining that myth, the reader must remember that the purpose here is not to analyze the specific history of these beliefs, but rather the general belief as we see it now; that is the currently held WN view of history. Basically the idea is thus- The white race was a great and noble civilization, but it had one major flaw, altruism. This flaw has throughout history caused the race to accept into its midst the Jew. While the Jew was sometimes expelled and persecuted, he was never completely removed. Sometime around the 19th century, coincidentally the same era which saw the rise of capitalism, the Jew began to gain control over white gentile society. In the early 20th century, they were believed to have gained increasing influence in intelligentsia and the expanding media. At the same time, Jews are believed by White Nationalists to have been behind the rise of socialism in the form of the Bolshevik revolution and other Marxist movements. This was, and is still, seen to be some kind of attempt to overthrow the existing European order in favor of the Jews. What is rarely understood amongst White Nationalists is that if one looks at National Socialist or other contemporary literature of the time, those who claimed that Bolshevism was a Jewish plot to overthrow the world were simultaneously claiming that Jews already controlled the civilized world via high finance. This blatant contradiction, where Jews are supposed to have been at the helm of the great European empires while simultaneously working to shatter those same empires is rarely if ever noticed within the ranks of the White Nationalist movement. The idea of Jews being simultaneously behind modern incarnations of left-wing radicalism as well as the driving force between capitalist globalization is still maintained in the movement today. How does the White Nationalist movement explain this blatantly obvious “hole” in the plot? In the tradition of The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, there is the insistence of a two-pronged attack. The general answer given is that Jews do indeed disagree on their strategy for world domination, but they will always do “What’s good for Jews”. Notice the race issue there; the assumption that every “race” as defined by White Nationalists, must have and follow collective goals. Yet if we were to look back at the literature that served as the foundation of these views held by White Nationalists, such as the writings of Hitler, Ford, George Lincoln Rockwell, and so on, we would be convinced that the grip on the capitalist establishment of the time by the Jews was rather firm. If we were to play devil’s advocate and believe that there is some “war-room” planning amongst organized Jewry, what possible benefit could such a “civil war” between two “worlds” controlled by Jews possibly serve? If the Jewish goal was the suppression of the white race with Bolshevism, why did socialist regimes provide massive social benefits to their largely non-Jewish populations? For example, if the Bolshevik revolution was to secure a Jewish stranglehold on Russia, which had a mostly illiterate population, why build schools and universities which later eliminated illiteracy throughout the entire Soviet Union? In fact when one considers the actual proven achievements of the Soviet Union, one must wonder if White Nationalists would still be willing to attribute the Bolshevik movement to Jews- as the massive advancement of this part of the world far outpaces the growth of many Western countries. Already we see some massive contradictions in the main core belief of racialism, but the reader may now be confused as to whether that core belief is more a matter of the “race” question of the “Jewish question”. I remind the reader that the race question is similar, and the Jewish question is related to it in the sense that the Jews are seen as a race. The difference lies in the idea that the Jews are, among the non-white races, one of if not the most advanced race besides the white race. This, coupled with their partial assimilation into European society, has allegedly given them the ability to corrupt society according to the White Nationalists and their historical predecessors. Thus the racial conflict between whites and non-whites such as Africans, Arabs, or Latinos is viewed as being largely the product of Jewish influence, which allegedly broke down the inherent “racial awareness” or identity of whites. What are the mechanics of this view, exactly? Well one perfect example is the Bolshevik revolution. A number of outdated sources are frequently used to support the idea that the Bolshevik movement was “dominated” by Jews. The most telling example given however, is that of Lenin, who is said by White Nationalists to have been ¼ Jewish, as well as Kalmyk, German, and Russian. This is one of the most important claims because it demonstrates the mentality of this mode of thinking. While WNs see Lenin as a mixture of four more or less equal parts, the Jewish quarter of his heritage is supposed to have some mystical quality that links him to socialism. Let us see if this can really stand up to White Nationalist logic however. Lenin was involved with something White Nationalists don’t like, that is a seemingly egalitarian(in the sense that WNs and their ilk have historically grossly misinterpreted the nature of Marxist egalitarianism) ideology and a revolution in favor of that worldview. Of course millions of non-Jews were and still are involved in the struggle for Marxist socialism, but by “Jewifying” the ideological leadership the entire nature of Communism can be seen as “Jewish” as opposed to European. Now let us imagine for the moment that there is another person who is 75% non-white, such as an Arab, and 25% German. Let us go even further and state that this person is totally supportive of the White Nationalist idea. Would this person be accepted as “white” by White Nationalists? Of course not; the idea is simply ludicrous on it’s face. But when it comes to something that WNs oppose or generally despise, even the smallest amount of Jewish heritage is enough to paint the entire person as a Jew. And by extension the movement or enterprise in which that “Jew” is involved in becomes “Jewish” itself. Of course there are many, many arguments against the claim that “Bolshevism was Jewish”, based not only on verified records from the Soviet Union and East Bloc but also on the writings of Bolshevik “Jews” themselves. None of this matters to the WN however, because when we see how WNs view and explain other social problems, it becomes apparent that even one certified “Jew” in the Bolshevik movement would be enough to make the claim that “Communism is Jewish”. The glaring inconsistency does not stop there however, it also extends to the very definition of “white”. It doesn’t take a lot of research on White Nationalist forums to find dozens of threads dedicated to determining exactly what is “white”. Should Iranians be considered white due to their Aryan heritage? Should they be excluded as “mongrelized”? Should they be accepted on a limited basis? What about Armenians? Georgians? What about someone who is 1/8 Jewish, 1/16, 1/32? Does the fact that a Jew can appear identical to a Norwegian suggest that even the lightest Iranian or Brahmin Hindu cannot be considered “white”? Clearly this is a serious problem, if the “race” issue is as clear cut as White Nationalists initially present it, why is so much time in White Nationalists discussions dedicated to determining just as to what “white” is? By now the reader may still not understand the appeal of this worldview, seeing it as a conspiracy theory. It is my theory however, that in modern society conspiracy theories have a great appeal for several reasons, some of which I alluded to above. For one, conspiracy theories, regardless of how complicated, provide a more or less unified explanation of complicated events. The complicated conflicts of the modern world can be attributed to a shadowy group behind the scenes that secretly controls both sides. There is also an appeal to the ego, in the sense that the believer is convinced that he or she is aware of some hidden truth that the ignorant masses are unaware of as they go about their meaningless lives. Many adherents of conspiracy theories refer to non-believers as “sheeple”; White Nationalists prefer the term “lemming”. While the reader may still not see the appeal of such conspiracy theories, these ideas are far more wide-spread than one would like to think. Conspiracy theories are not limited to those who believe that the moon landing was faked, that the world is controlled by the Illuminati, the Masons, or Jews, or that the attacks of September 11th were carried out by the US government. Mainstream conservatives indulge in conspiracy theories that the “liberal” media are deliberately concealing a smashing success in Iraq. Many mainstream liberals believe that the ultimate goal of the Republicans is to turn America into a Biblical theocracy, which would in fact be in direct contradiction to the ultimate capitalist interests of that party, regardless of its Christian base. There seems to be a paradox in the sense the while conspiracy theories cause their believers to feel like a small persecuted minority in an endless fight against an ever-elusive omnipotent enemy, belief in that single shadowy enemy is more comforting than acknowledging the incredibly complicated nature of society, economics, history, and politics. Look at the world of modern politics today: Free-market globalists, left-wing liberals, anarchists, Christian and Islamic fundamentalists, Zionists, Marxists, Fascists, pacifists, conservative pundits, libertarians, American neoconservatives and European New Rightists. In a modern capitalist society dominated by entertainment media and over simplistic explanations of complicated issues, the idea of a single shadowy group behind it all provides a sense of understanding in a world that is difficult to understand. In this context, the overall Jewish conspiracy is not something unique save for its long history. It is just one of many over simplistic beliefs that are prevalent in today’s modern world. And the personal testimonies of many White Nationalists prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that while the overwhelming majority of the movements ranks are filled with former mainstream right-wingers, there are left-wing converts as well. This being the case, many of those who are so quick to condemn White Nationalism on a whim may not be aware that they too may hold beliefs that are either remarkably similar, or could even possibly lead them onto that path as well. To write White Nationalism off with some buzzword like “racism” is to ignore the roots of the ideology, and totally misunderstand the manner in which this worldview is caused by, interacts with, and affects modern capitalist society. It is not this author’s aim to pass moral judgment on the ideology, but rather to explain that which so many find impossible to understand. The purpose of this particular article is to examine a prominent ideological flaw of White Nationalism, in summation of this particular issue, the operative word would be oversimplification. This oversimplification also leads to a lot of hypocrisy, such as the aforementioned situation where a more or less European with some Jewish heritage, engaged in activity WNs oppose, is labeled as a Jew while someone like Field Marshal Erich Von Manstein is totally ignored despite his repeated admissions of being at least half-Jewish. In general however, the problem is that White Nationalism offers a false sense of enlightenment by offering a seemingly simplistic answer to the world’s problems that actually conceals grave contradictions. The feeling of enlightenment leads White Nationalist adherents to proceed totally unaware of the massive internal contradictions of other worldview. Attempts to question these inconsistencies leads to hostile reactions; the inconvenient questions are treated as clever attempts to complicate what are supposed to be simple concepts. The question that must be put to White Nationalism, is whether an over simplistic view of the world could ever be remotely helpful for anyone. I for one am not the least bit opposed to ideas like advancing European culture, and I believe the idea of self-determination for all peoples also includes Europeans. Yet if these are goals of “White Nationalism”, how does mindless bigotry and superstitious anti-Semitism advance that goal? Reality is complicated; the capitalist system of today, and the effects of that system, are driven by complex and material factors, not mystical historical missions of some shadowy racial cabal pulling the strings from behind the scenes. Key Ideological Flaws of White Nationalism Part II: Internal Contradictions In the first article of this series, I identified one of White Nationalism’s key flaws as oversimplification. To be fair, the subject of this article may in fact be a more serious ideological flaw than that of the previous article, but I feel that oversimplification is a fundamental cause which leads to the subject of this article- inherent, repetitive, internal contradictions. In short, I feel that this particular subject would be better understood if its roots are examined in advance. How does oversimplification lead to internal contradictions in White Nationalism? Since I am neither a social scientist nor a psychologist, I can only speculate. However, I feel that with my personal observation as well as the reader’s following up with their own research, the point I am making would retain at least some validity- if only to the extent that it makes the often misunderstood nature of White Nationalism clearer in the eyes of laypersons. My hypothesis in this case, is that an over simplistic worldview makes fertile ground for contradictory beliefs, as well as it removes the analytical process that would notice such glaring contradictions. After all, if life is as simple as White Nationalism preaches, based solely on race or race plus the Jewish question(itself merely a facet of the racial issue), what need is there to examine one’s personal beliefs for glaring contradictions? If one views life more or less as it is, as something very complicated with many various conflicting factors, one would have to varying degree a sense for hypocrisy and contradiction. When everything is reduced to black or white, and this view is purported as some kind of revealed truth, the idea that there may be massive conflicts within one’s own espoused worldview may be nonexistent. Basically White Nationalism and its offshoots are rife with internal contradictions because they are ideologically bankrupt. They are long on lofty, spiritual, philosophical sermons and short on real, practical answers. From a historical perspective I would blame this on the lack of capitalist support for right-wing and Fascist movements since the end of the Second World War. When the ruling capitalist class needed protection from the growing socialist movement, they helped deliver power to Fascist movements or employed them in order to prop up dictators that would maintain the status quo. Political power forces a movement to adopt some practical measures and abandon some of the lofty philosophical and spiritual rhetoric. Yet the advance of capitalism has progressed to a point where the nationalistic beliefs of the right are in conflict with material reality of profit motive. Thus the real reason for far-right success, the support of the ruling class, no longer exists, thus leaving Fascists, National Socialists, and their ilk with nothing but their intellectually weak philosophy. That lack of political success seems to have led to the decline of concern for practical reality within the movement, which in turn leads to further degeneration of the philosophy and ideology as its adherents increasingly lose touch with material reality. In the last article, we touched on such a glaring contradiction, one that in fact shows a serious flaw in the most basic idea of White Nationalism, the idea that race is the sole determining factor in human history and society. That conflict had to do with the Jewish aspect of the racial question, where people that do things that White Nationalists or prospective recruits oppose are said to be Jewish, and not white, if some percentage of “Jewish” blood can be proven or at least inferred. So as White Nationalists and their ilk have been anti-Communist, for example, Karl Marx is not German but Jewish, Lenin was not Russian but Jewish, and so on. In short, Communism was not German, Russian, Polish, or “white”, but rather “Jewish” because its early leadership is said to have consisted of “Jews” rather than “whites”. Of course many of the out-dated sources used to purport this idea is in fact fraudulent, misrepresenting the number of actual Jews involved with the Marxist movement, but this is irrelevant to the issue at hand. The hypothetical scenario introduced in the first article juxtaposed the White Nationalist claim of Lenin’s “Jewish” identity with that of a 75% Arab, 25% individual who actually supported White Nationalism. The basic observation is that White Nationalists see Communism as negative, and ergo the “quarter Jew” Lenin is not “white” but a Jew, whereas even if our “quarter white” Arab were supportive of White Nationalism, he or she would most likely be denied the right to identify oneself as white. A clear contradiction. To further demonstrate, let us ponder another variable; something more analogous to this contradiction. Suppose that black nationalist groups, or at least a large group of African Americans in general, were railing against the policies of a particular group of black political leaders in a city council. Suppose that one of these leaders was half white, another one quarter, and so on. Now what would the White Nationalist reaction be, were those blacks to cry that their oppressors were in fact not black, not even mulatto, but rather white? Of course this would be seen as absurd, but the general contradiction in one of White Nationalism’s crucial beliefs is painfully obvious. Partial Jew, no matter how questionable as to their heritage, who engages in bad behavior by WN standards, is a Jew hands down. Partial white, regardless of behavior, is seen as something other than white. This contradiction is necessary to the movement however, in order to preserve two particular key concepts, one being the inherently healthy and good nature of the white race, and the second being the need to explain how that race could be led to take so many actions against its own interest. Ignoring the historical evolution to focus on the modern White Nationalist movement, a key belief is that this concept of “white” has always been around in some form. Wars, exploitation, genocide, and other common features in the history of Europe are paved over by the concept of a more or less harmonious “Western civilization”. The current crisis of the white race has been presented as something new, as the result of a spiritual breakdown- the loss of “racial awareness”. Obviously if all history is a process of racial struggle, and these racial feelings are so natural, enough to truly supersede national, ethnic, tribal, religious, and economic divisions, there has to be some kind of explanation as to why a race, the white race in particular, would begin a process of social change that is said to be leading to its own annihilation. Enter the international Jew. Even in the first article, I pointed out another common and rather old contradiction in the White Nationalist claim that Bolshevism was said to be a Jewish plot to overthrow a world that was said to be already run by the Jews of high-finance. Claims of Jewish domination however, also frequently conflict with other White Nationalists beliefs, particularly the eugenic or aristocratic ideal as well as their general aversion to anything Marxist. According to White Nationalists, or at least their ideological forefathers such as Pierce, Oliver, and Simpson, simply being white is not enough. Their must be an aristocracy of superior individuals. The Bolshevik revolution of 1917 is labeled as the a revolt of the inferior masses against “their natural betters”. The idea that perhaps that superiority had less to do with genetics and more with the fact that most Russians of the era had no access to any kind of education didn’t seem to cross the mind of White Nationalism’s philosophers. The idea is that the clever Jews whipped up the stupid masses in revolt against those who were genetically predestined to rule Russia, with no regard to how poorly those “natural betters” had performed in their genetically determined leadership role. Of course the Jews that led these masses are not seen as anyone’s natural better. Likewise in the west, where Jews are said to have controlled the world through high finance and laissez-faire capitalism, the great minds of White Nationalism do not see those Jewish rulers as the natural betters of American, British, or German society. Strange that they would not see any parallel between the overthrow of the Russian aristocracy by the working class, and that of those said to be in control of Weimar Germany. After all, Weimar Germany was said to be in the death grip of wealthy Jews, and the NSDAP was made up of mostly working class Germans, many of whom recruited from the ranks of the German Communist movement. Incredible indeed how the labels of “inferior masses” and “natural betters” can change so fluidly. The hypocrisy is so thick you can almost reach out and touch it; when the rulers of a nation or society are said to be “Jewish”, in the sense that they advocate behavior or ideas that oppose the White Nationalist ideology, that ruling class is said to be “alien” and oppressive. But if the aristocracy is not “Jewish”, then those rulers have been naturally selected to dominate society due to their superior genetic make-up, regardless of their actual performance or their demonstrable complicity in creating the discontent that threatens to overthrow or literally overthrows them. Of course even that is tricky because the definition of a ruling class as “Jewish” is dependent on whether the status quo meets the approval of the White Nationalists or their historical predecessors. The list of contradictions espoused by White Nationalists is seemingly endless; such as the condemnation of non-white criminal behavior while Vikings who raped and pillaged across Europe are exalted as the epitome of European values. If we were to expand the scope of this work to include minor contradictions such as that, they would fill a volume of their own. That is why we need to focus on the core contradictions, that is those that are found within the movement’s core beliefs rather than the insignificant minor ones, however blatant the latter may be. Another key contradiction related to the aristocratic problem, is the movement’s condemnation of Boasian, “environmental” anthropology. Naturally the idea that man’s ability is based primarily or exclusively on environmental factors is a big threat to the pro-heredity beliefs of White Nationalists. Yet here we see another major contradiction. Heredity takes a major place in White Nationalist literature and thought, and it is the basis for eugenics. The reality that most White Nationalist rank-and-file are not aware of, another contradiction itself, is that if one reads the historical literature(particularly Which Way Western Man? by William Gayley Simpson)that laid the foundation for the modern movement, White Nationalism is not even “racial” nor “national”. Inherent superiority, passed on by heredity, was extended all the way down to the individual level, simply being white was never enough. The view that achievement was largely the product of environmental factors is a threat to this idea and thus in opposition to a core belief of White Nationalism. Thus we must try another experiment. White Nationalists will extol the virtues of heredity, and regardless of whether they fully appreciate that view to the extent of someone like Pierce or Simpson, the general idea is that races have radically different and readily observable differences in general ability. Of course at the same time White Nationalists spend countless hours deriding the white masses for their lack of courage, honor, pride, independent thinking, ad infinitum. Would they attribute this to natural genetic flaws in white genes, that make whites more susceptible to self-destruction? Of course not! This is due to the “Jewish media”, Marxism, feminism, liberalism, democracy, and so on. Is it obvious yet? Other races fail because of hereditary inferiority, but whites can fail due to environmental factors just like those repeatedly provided by White Nationalists. The point here is not to attack the idea of hereditary differences between races or even individuals, but rather the idea that environmentalism can only apply to one race while the others are bound to the laws of genetics only. What are some of the effects of these inherent contradictions, in the sense that they manifest in WN propaganda or behavior? Well the aristocratic belief for one is a good place to start because not only does it prevent White Nationalism from ever achieving any significant political success but it also ensures that White Nationalism will always have its problems with freaks and other social rejects. White Nationalist organizations, and the movement in particular, extols this belief and promotes itself as a sort of vanguard. If one belongs to a group that preaches the virtue of aristocracy and great individuals leading the ignorant masses, it goes without saying that members of that group will come to see themselves as members of that elite. Rare if ever is the occasion on which one will meet a WN who believes in the aristocratic ideal while simultaneously doubting his own superior qualifications. Surely if the aristocratic, eugenic ideal had any real depth, one would find movements full of people who accept their own inadequacy but are willing to serve those whom they see as the elite vanguard, seeing that this is the natural order. No, in White Nationalism every member is automatically inducted into the “elite” category, destined to rule after the revolution. When one is a member of an elite, what need is there to conduct oneself in a morally upright, intelligent, and mature manner? Furthermore, the group’s exclusivity provides a sort of support group where members are constantly reassured of their own superiority, not limited to other races, but the mass of their own race as well. Externally, this love of “aristocracy” ensures that the movement will never gain any significant political victory. In the past, Fascists could rely on the masses love of certain elements of the status quo, be it the Petit Bourgeoisie or religion, coupled with their backing from the ruling class. In modern times, even if the White Nationalists were able to amass some kind of true elite, how will they ever gain power by preaching an ideology that would basically require the masses’ subservience and servitude based on unseen genetic “superiority”? Of course some White Nationalists would respond that they could take political power by force, but it is highly unlikely that a significant number of whites in any given country would be willing to lay down their lives and sacrifice what little they have in order to submit to the unquestionable rule of a hitherto unknown and unproven “elite”. That sense of self-assurance must surely explain a lot of the idiotic behavior and ideas espoused form the movement. Remember that the movement is based on very simplistic core beliefs, and as I have demonstrated, those core beliefs are rife with a number of glaring contradictions. Once one begins mouthing and repeating those core beliefs, they can gain acceptance into some part of the movement, and then they become one of the elite vanguard. The consistency or accuracy of their beliefs becomes unquestionable, so long as the overall consistency of the core belief, be it race or Jews is maintained. Claims and ideas are generally judged on whether or not they adhere to the core beliefs, rather than their coherency, logic, accuracy, or the impression they may have on the white populace as a whole. Key Ideological Flaws in White Nationalism Part III: No Sense of History White Nationalists tend to pride themselves in historical knowledge, or a least their conception of history. The purpose of this part in the series is not to challenge the WN view of history. The WN version of history doesn’t just contradict major events such as the Holocaust or the unjustified nature of Operation Barbarossa. The key ideological flaw here that is more pertinent, in the sense that it represents a source of many internal contradictions within the WN philosophy, is the lack of understanding of its own history- that is the history of “the movement”. Technically, the White Nationalist movement is a relatively new movement in history. Those opposed to White Nationalism tend to pigeonhole the ideology as simply “racism”, and may believe that as such it has been around for a long time. In reality however, White Nationalism is rather new seeing that it is actually based primarily on membership in the “white race” as opposed to a specific nationality or religious group. “Racists” in the past, to the extent that one could even define that word, tended to include certain groups within their own race as potential enemies. The history of discrimination against Irish and Italians in America for example, bears testimony to the reality that “racists” of the past such as the KKK did not limit their enemies to blacks or other non-whites. This reality is generally ignored by White Nationalists, as well as another more serious one- the reality of National Socialism. Regardless of their personal beliefs, most White Nationalists have a more-or-less favorable view toward Hitler, the Third Reich, and National Socialism as they understand it. This is something that the movement can never get around, no matter how many respectable-looking men in suits they can send to interviews and public speeches. The problem here is that National Socialism also did not represent pan-Europeanism, contrary to the claims of idealists like Otto Skorzeny or Leon DeGrelle. The Third Reich represents Pan-German nationalism, and while it united the Volksdeutsche of various nations outside of Germany proper, it took some time before other Germanic people like Danes or Norwegians were seen as worthy of wearing the SS runes. Some nationalities were never granted the privilege, such as the Bosnian Muslims of the 13th Mountain SS division. This of course is a trivial matter but it illustrates the manner by which other European nationalities were still looked down on by the Nazi hierarchy. It is also worth noting that the increase in flexibility as to who was worthy to take up arms for the New European order followed the German fortunes during the war. In other words as the situation deteriorated, more peoples from as far as Central Asia were allowed to bear arms in the German forces. Of course in addition to the foreign volunteers in the Third Reich’s forces, the European Axis itself lends credence to the myth of a Pan-European front against Bolshevism that is so popular amongst White Nationalists. This façade also crumbles under closer examination. Inter-ethnic hatreds were strong amongst the Axis countries, and various petty conflicts existed between Germany and Italy, Italy and Croatia, as well as the greater historical hatred between “allies” such as Romania and Hungary. The violence of Croatian extremists in the Ustasa movement against Serbs in Croatia and Bosnia that it played a large part in the creation of the Partisan forces that would later throw the Axis out of Yugoslavia. In addition to this, many Axis countries had their own reasons to join the “crusade” against Bolshevism that were more materially rather than ideologically driven. This generally involved acquiring lost land. Bulgaria was so concerned with its own business that while it aided in the campaign against Yugoslavia and Greece, it refused to attack the Soviet Union. Thus the myth of the great Pan-European crusade for white homeland is laid bare, and another alleged ancestor of modern White Nationalism proves to be an adopted-father rather than the genuine article. In all fairness, National Socialism did evolve into something at least superficially Pan-European many years after the end of the Second World War. The problem is that this post WWII National Socialist movement has never come to grips with that reality of its predecessor. It proceeds onward, preaching the greatness of the original National Socialist regime without acknowledging its fiercely nationalist nature and its clearly anti-European actions. The Nazis’ pan-European propaganda is trumpeted while indisputable facts to the contrary are dismissed as victors’ history, if not ignored entirely. This issue strikes close to home because the author himself was an ardent National Socialist for several years. National Socialism conflicted with the Pan-Slavic beliefs I held at the time, despite the more or less favorable view toward the political aspects of the ideology that I had developed. During that time I fell for many of the semantic arguments regarding the Third Reich’s treatment of Slavs. I believe I succumbed to the same failing that many more intellectual types have with regards to the White Nationalist movement; that is the tendency to look at the trees instead of the forest. I was looking at the “trees” of the Russian Liberation Army, Slovakia, the Serbian Volunteer Guard, Ukrainian Liberation Army, and so on. However I was blind to the “forest” of over twenty million people killed by an aggressive attack on the Soviet Union, as well as millions killed in inter-ethnic conflict spurred on primarily by the Axis’ Eastern European allies, which still have great impact today. It’s not whether the obscure facts I discovered on Slavs in Axis service were incorrect, but rather a question of what relevance do they have in the context of indisputable history facts? By now the blatant problem this contradiction poses must be staring the reader directly in the face. The White Nationalist movement glorifies and bases a lot of its ideology on a movement that was not “racial” in any real sense, and totally ignores this. But there is another element within the movement ideology that is also connected with National Socialism, and also heavily influenced a lot of fellow travelers in the pre-war and post-war era, namely eugenics. It is not the place of this article to describe the details of eugenics’ long history, but suffice to say that if one reads the literature of movement intellectuals such as Pierce, Oliver, or most importantly William Gayley Simpson’s Which Way Western Man?, there is a heavy reliance on eugenics. In a nutshell, eugenics is basically the idea that human potential is determined primarily by hereditary qualities, passed down via genetics rather than environmental factors. The argument goes that social problems are not determined by things like poverty or education, but rather people who are inherently inferior. Solving social problems us a matter of doing something with those inferior people, be it by sterilization or in the case of the Nazi regime, extermination. The reader might now jump to the conclusion that this relates to White Nationalism because the eugenics philosophy would go hand in hand with “supremacist” ideology, but to do that would be making the mistake that so many misinformed White Nationalists have made. The problem with eugenics, all scientific arguments aside, is that it is not a racial ideology. Yes, the proponents of eugenics looked down on non-white races and discouraged miscegenation with them, but the concept of eugenics also rated different European groups and actually extended down to the individual level. So being German, or even Nordic, was not enough; bad behavior by such a person was still a matter of inferior genes regardless of whether or not one’s genetic makeup was physically noticeable. William Gayley Simpson took this idea to its extreme, so much as to endorse institutions such as arranged marriages and even selective inbreeding in his magnum opus Which Way Western Man?. It seems that many historical racialist authors took to the idealistic view of eugenics, as a method for the advancement of natural evolution, ignoring the less romantic reality that entailed ruling class resistance to the demand for social progress. Eugenics was in reality the method by which social problems could be explained away as a matter of personal destiny rather than problems inherent the emerging capitalist society. So once again, White Nationalists don’t come to grips with their ideological heritage, the majority embracing only the racial aspects of eugenics rather than the whole concept. It’s obvious as to why; enough experience with rank and file White Nationalists seems to suggest that a great many of them would not pass eugenic standards. Of course from the environmental perspective, many of the personal failings of White Nationalists are understandable as they are shared by many outside of the movement and even the race. Yet to conceding to that environmental view would represent a major threat to the White Nationalist worldview as well. In fairness, many White Nationalist intellectuals such as William Pierce accepted the whole eugenic argument, extending to the individual level, but looking at the organizations and people associated with these individuals it becomes obvious that their eugenic standards were rather flexible. More importantly however, all eugenic arguments are thrown out the window by White Nationalists, including the leadership, when the question of Jews in power or their white accomplices is raised. Consider this quote from a broadcast of American Dissident Voices(the shortwave/internet radio show run by the National Alliance) by William Pierce. This atrocious behavior on the part of the Communist troops was due in part to the nature of the Communist system, which had succeeded in overthrowing Russian society and the Russian government in the first place by organizing the scum of Russian society -- the losers and ne'er-do-wells, the criminals, the resentful and the envious -- under the Jews and setting them against the successful, the accomplished, the refined, and the prosperous, promising the rabble that if they pulled down their betters then they could take the place of the latter: the first shall be last, and the last shall be first. Ignoring the repetitive Jewish association with Communism that is rampant throughout almost any White Nationalist publication, the sentiment expressed here is common amongst many racialist authors, particularly those of the older generation like Pierce. The Bolshevik revolution and the Communist movement was smeared as being a movement made up of rabble, naturally inferior people. This view is clearly influenced by eugenics; the proletariat are pre-ordained by genetic destiny to be proletariat, and their rebellion and resistance to mistreatment under capitalism is an affront against the natural order. In the above quote Pierce, like many of his ilk, never juxtapose their judgments of the Russian proletariat against the reality of the times. To claim that the Bolshevik movement was simply made up of criminals, thugs, losers, and the dregs of humanity, is to paint a large portion of the Russian and Soviet peoples with that very brush, seeing that millions, in fact tens of millions, sacrificed their lives for that system. People who were born into homes with dirt floors became scientists and engineers thanks to free education. Simple people from Central Asia studied at universities and brought electricity to their villages and towns for the first time. Ultimately they turned a near-feudal, almost medieval nation into a world superpower that sent the first satellite into space, as well as the first man. How generous and altruistic those Jewish master of the Bolshevik revolution were! What had the natural betters, the “successful”, “prosperous”, and “more refined” done in Russia? They managed to lose a war to Japan in 1905, and incur masses of casualties on their own people in the meat grinder of the First World War. Strange how people like Pierce do not consider the proletarian forces of the Russian Imperial Army as the dregs of humanity, but when they got fed up with the hail of bullets, the poison gas, the appalling conditions of the war, and the corruption and carelessness of their “more refined” officers and joined the Bolshevik cause, they became utter scum. How sincere is one’s belief in eugenics if a heroic European soldier can become a “loser” just because he gets tired of oppression by those whose “superiority” is in fact founded on material possessions? The rank-and-file White Nationalist eats up the eugenic arguments thinking that it validates some sense of superiority, as well as it seems to fly in the face of leftist rhetoric that places the blame for non-white problems on social issues. What they don’t seem to notice however, is the way it is applied to their fellow whites by their own ideological heroes like Pierce. How can one possibly claim that the ruling class of Russia was genetically superior to the masses? The vast majority of the country had no access to education and was illiterate. This is not because they were genetically inferior to the point that they didn’t care or couldn’t understand the value of education and literacy; it is because they simply had no access to education of any kind. Furthermore, the Russian Orthodox Church played its pacifying role in society, nurturing superstition in the illiterate peasantry. That same church was an instrumental part of the Russian ruling class of the time. The deck was stacked so heavily against the majority of Russians that it is simply ludicrous to claim that they were genetically inferior. If they were “losers” or “dregs of humanity”, it is because of a conscious effort on behalf of a small minority to leave the majority of their own people, their own blood, in the darkness of ignorance and superstition. Of course there’s a bigger contradiction which I already hinted to before analyzing the specifics of Pierce’s judgment on the Russian people. That is the total disregard for eugenic philosophy when it comes to the “current” ruling class, that is alleged to consist of “the Jews” and their helpers. If the Russian aristocracy represented the inherently superior people in that country, why aren’t the “Jewish rulers” of “ZOG” seen as genetically superior and thus fit to rule? If we are to believe that this small minority is so dynamic as to go from a scattered and persecuted Diaspora to the rulers of the entire Western world, shouldn’t that suggest some kind of genetic superiority? And what about non-Jews in power such as Bush or Clinton? Could it not be said that despite whatever “anti-white” policies these people may enact, they have the power to enact it because their genetic superiority allowed them to reach the top, a feat which could not be achieved by such “enlightened” minds such as Simpson, Oliver, or Pierce? Impossible! The alleged accomplishments of the Jews, their domination of Western society, could never be attributed to hereditary factors by these individuals. Surely there is some other force at work, because it seems in regards to that question eugenics has taken a break. So there we have yet another example of deliberately ignoring a major part of White Nationalism’s ideological history by its followers and even some of its leaders, and another massive internal contradiction. This raises yet another historical question that the movement can’t seem to answer. If you read a lot of propaganda from racialists like the late Dr. Pierce, you get the idea that your current era is ruled by Jews and their lackeys, but there was some other time when white society wasn’t under their thumb. The question is however, when was that exactly? If you read a White Nationalism pamphlet today, at the time of this writing it is early 2007, you will probably run across the theme of Jewish domination of Western society. Look up some White Nationalist material from the mid-1990’s and sure enough you’ll find that the Jews were just as firmly in charge back then as well. Find something from the early 80s’- yup, ZOG was still in control. Look at the 70s, or read White Power written by American Nazi leader George Lincoln Rockwell in the 60s. The Jews were still in control back then! Read Nazi wartime propaganda; Jews were firmly in control of both the Western Allies and the Soviet Union. Read 1930s era propaganda of people such as Henry Ford, and Jews had already come to dominate American foreign policy and the world of business according to him. Read Mein Kampf from 1924 and you’ll find that Jews were in charge of the Weimar republic as well as behind the downfall of the Kaiser’s regime. As far back as 1543, Martin Luther made allegations of Jewish corruption and even domination of non-Jews at that time. And there are some in the White Nationalist movement that to varying degrees, believe Christianity itself to be a Jewish scheme to dominate non-Jews, primarily Europeans. So the question is, when exactly was white society not under the thumb of the all-powerful Jew? When were European and Eurocentric societies ruled by genetically superior men rather than Jews and their underlings; who came into power by some unknown force? White Nationalists assure us that there was some better time, when white men were men and women were women, but somewhere it got corrupted. Yet any time the question of what caused each era to degenerate further and further, it always comes back to the Jewish question. The 60s counter-culture rebellions were due to Jewish domination of the media and academia after WWII, but the victory of the Allies(read: Jews) in WWII was due to Jewish domination of academia and the media back then as well, and so on and so forth. As usual the only white failing that is ever hinted at is our eternal “altruism” or generosity, the standard White Nationalist cop-out. Of course the reality behind many of the problems that White Nationalists see is the capitalist system; but the problem with that is that it is complicated and doesn’t fit in with the “good” versus “evil” worldview of the movement. The inevitable effects of an evolving economic system need a villain behind them; there has to be some consciousness behind it. Perhaps the fact that capitalism has over a century of history behind it, and due to the fact that it has evolved radically during that time, could help explain why White Nationalism can’t come to grips with its own purported version of history. That is since a lot of White Nationalism is obviously reaction to effects of capitalism, such as the decline of the nuclear family or in more recent times, globalization, maybe this helps explain why the predecessors of modern White Nationalism seem to have felt that they were in an era of long-since established Jewish domination. In fact, the point at which many White Nationalists seem to put the beginning of contemporary Jewish domination is around the turn of the last century; late 19th to early 20th. Is it only a coincidence that the Jews are said to have began to made major advances toward dominance in an era when capitalism had come to dominate a large part of Europe and was making major progress in America as well? Perhaps that would be better left to another article. Like the White Nationalist concept of Jewish domination, the treatment of white history is also mishandled by the movement. As already noted, the White Nationalist movement often promotes the idea that things “used to be better”. We are told that white men used to breed within their own race, for example. This of course is ludicrous primarily because the opportunity for wide scale miscegenation in places like Europe was physically impossible. Advances in technology, as well as the capitalist mode of production, created the multi-racial societies of today. The last article was dedicated to inherent, glaring, internal contradictions in the White Nationalist ideology. This exposed a few more, but keeping with the theme of this specific article, they were limited to the scope of those contradictions stemming from a lack of historical understanding. That is to say that one possible explanation for so many of the movement’s problems in terms of forming a coherent ideology is the ignorance of its ideological history. The movement doesn’t know itself; it doesn’t know or understand its ideological roots. It follows hodgepodge of various ideas that are painted with a broad brush as “pro-white”, rather than examining these ideas and developing something more coherent. In light of this, it is not difficult to understand why the movement seems to be in a state of perpetual stagnation.
Re: A critical examination of WN
The author of that piece was a member of National Alliance.
Re: A critical examination of WN
This has my Alarm Bells ringing, This same article appeared on an anti site yesterday with a commie claiming to be the author. Which one is telling porkies? WHOA! Hold the phone! The author was indeed with either NA or Nat'l Vanguard (I'm sure it was the former) and this did not come from an anti site.
Re: Gangs are gearing up for war against Americans
I'm not overly concerned, I doubt I'll ever see the likes of them rolling thru our hood they stand out quite a bit and its not because they are black its because they are stupid. Our local law enforcement has no problem stopping these boys to ask them a why their tail light is out and if it's ok to look in the vehicle. That's not to say I'm any less vigilant, my only concern is if I take the wrong exit going thru a unfamiliar city. Not only that, but negroes aren't multiplying and they've got a shorter life expectancy. I didn't watch the video all the way through, but what they should have focused upon are the Mestizo gangs. Mestizos are born gang members.
Re: The truth about National Socialism?
It would be better to say they were prevented from continuation or denying fulfilling the NS vision for the world. :( Tell that to the millions of Soviet victims of the Nazis.
Re: Pit Bulls Wreak Havoc at Ohio Shelter
Pit Bulls have got to be the most dangerous breed there ever was.
Re: Pit Bulls Wreak Havoc at Ohio Shelter
Actually, no they are not. The American Temperament Test Society, Inc. (ATTS) breed statistics as of December 2005 show an 83.5% passing rate for the American Pit Bull Terrier and the American Staffordshire Terrier and an 84.7% passing rate for the Staffordshire bull terrier, as compared to an 81.2% average pass rate for all dog breeds. That's better than the popular Border Collie (a breed who scores 79.6%). What would you rather be attacked by, a Pit Bull or a Border Collie? :rofl I will never, ever understand this pit bull revisionism.
Re: Many white workers would support socialism
The wrong type of socialism is taking away what the Whites have worked for and giving it away to Israel, third world nations, Actually foreign aid is less than 1% of the budget, last I checked.
Re: Many white workers would support socialism
Socialism, by itself, is not a bad thing. National Socialism is a good thing. Hitlers true loyalities always lay with the big industry. After all, who was his main backers? i seem to remember a quote where Hitler defended private-property through denouncing democrcay. So much for socialism.
Re: Is the Constitution Party compatible with American WNism/WNs?
My beef with them is their complete lack of concern for the working man; I mean it's all just free-market/rugged individualist conservative re-hash. I was also put off by the Christian references. The only thing that I liked was the states' rights part.
Re: Is the Constitution Party compatible with American WNism/WNs?
Either we go with what will attract people to WNism in the political arena or we give up on politics altogether in my view. On a personal level, I have given up on politics except as a holding action on certain rights, i.e., 2nd Amendment rights mainly, against democratic socialism (= police state). K That is how I feel.
Video: Tom Metzger interviews IWW leader
Metzger interviews John Jewell, former member of IWW, on Metzger's old cable show Race and Reason. They discuss the history of the white working man's struggle in the US. Excellent discussion. For those of you automatically put off by the description--yes, the guy's a racist. This is what I'm talking about when I say that we need to get the hell away from the phony right wing. Part I (II, III and IV are there also). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKJ2rt1Fluk
Immigration activists openly espouse violence against whites
Minutemen infiltrated a Mestizo immigration activists' meeting, and these muds let it all hang out, even AFTER the Minutemen identified who they are. http://www.minutemanproject.com/defa...?contentID=242 This is good news, boys and girls!
Re: coming civil war in the states and the mestizo nation
I understand what you are getting at. Many whites, especially cops and military, will be your enemy early on. However, the negro next door is not your friend either. He may not like his current economic situation just like you. He may smile and say he has your back, but don't think for a second he is your true ally. When the streets are flooded with negroes wanting their own country, do you really think your negro neighbor will side with you and fight them? He will point his gun at the back of your head and you will be finished. He will high five the negros and they will laugh about how gullible whites are. Don't let your family and our race down like that. Well negroes don't make up a large part of the population; you should probably substitute mestizo for negro . Besides, a lot of negroes are living a comfy existence since they've been fussed over and coddled so much. Yeah, mestizos I think would be more worrisome.
Re: coming civil war in the states and the mestizo nation
that map looks scary, these horrible people think thats how it gonna be. I know my white american brothers will destroy the scum. Uh, c'mon--there's millions of them... That map is a fanciful notion by a bunch of clowns anyway.
Metzger Speech at Aryan Nations
Interesting talk; he also emphasizes how we must get away from the right wing. In the first clip, fast forward to about the 4 minute mark. Pt. 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGgR6YMvsTc Pt. 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v9RP...eature=related Pt. 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uV2D...eature=related Quote: If you don't get in line you're a rogue state; everytime I hear rogue state I feel like moving there.
Re: A critical examination of WN
Posted By Captain Marinesko February 28th, 2007, 11:35 AM Yes, a former member. EDIT: Disregard my previous remark about the other forum--I was thinking of another place, not the one referenced above.
Re: Supporting the Troops vs. Supporting the War
The average rural White serving in Iraq is an idiot Christian zionist who believes that he's part Cherokee. He thinks that Israel is the fulfillment of some biblical prophecy and jews are god's chosen people. Bottom line: Any White who joins the military without the intention of exploiting his military service to his own ends, is an imbecile.
Re: Lonely Old Man’s Death Could Be the Death of White America
I can hardly wait until I'm old enough to join a real WN group and do something. It's really not a good idea to join a membership org where the feds can find out your name and the group can be infiltrated, etc. Better to be a lone wolf. Just a word to the wise.
post not being accepted
I've attempted (twice) to make a post which contains a link, but the moderator never approves it. It's just an ordinary post in the Revisionism forum. What am I doing wrong?
Re: Can Anybody Prove the HOLOCAUST Happened?
Holocaust scholars have always accepted the figure of one million for Auschwitz; the Soviet plaque that claimed four million, was never accepted and that's why it was replaced.
Re: White Pride or supremacy, which are you?
I am neither. I am not a supremacist, and I am not into White Pride, since I have no pride in something I didn't accomplish. If anything, I am a separatist. The other thing is, a huge number of whites are totally worthless anyway.
Re: The annoying PC tend among some WNs
The Nazi symbol looks cool as much as the SS Nazi uniforms during WWII. You wouldn't have thought it looked cool if you were a Russian who had your children torn from you and sent to a camp while you were sent to another camp, probably to never see them again. The Nazis have nothing to do with 2007 America. Eschewing the Swastika has nothing to do with political correctness. It is a symbol affiliated with hate, and that's the way it is. Please, I'm not trying to flame, just telling it like it is! If you want to dress up like those folks, fine--go join a reenactor group. But don't besmirch the embryonic WN movement before it's even gotten off the ground.
Re: The annoying PC tend among some WNs
Ron Paul may have some good points but he has a snowball's chance in hell of winning, and it's too late anyway. People here need to look at this realistically and understand that the democratic process is useless. No elected official is going to save us.
The Stupidity of Anti-Communism
Excellent little essay regarding racialists' preoccupation with commies: http://blog.odessa-syndicate.com/200...nti-communism/ Check out the rest of the site; it's a new Third Position blog.
Re: Remember LA
Only the worst ghetto types are going to riot and even then it'll be in isolated areas. I think L.A. city will burn though. I too was in L.A. during the riots, and I can tell you that large numbers of white people fled the city in terror. There's been more white flight since then, and even more influx of muds, so the ratio is going to be even greater. Whites aren't going to do anything. What's funny is that most whites are so f00cking stupid that they won't even know what hit them. Hey, you want to make an omelette you gotta break a few eggs...
Re: Conformity on Stormfront
A true non-conformist is unafraid to reinvent himself as the circumstances demand. This is 100% correct. It also means that we must be willing to depart with the right wing and incorporate ideas and attitudes of the left as well.
Re: Divisiveness and Failure is your strategy
The vehicle will be a clan. A southern celtic clan. Why southern? The southern culture is a recognizable culture already and is in natural rebellion to the big gov't northern establishment. It is naturally anti-big government. With all due respect I think this is way too restrictive in scope, for various reasons. Study the common southern celtic culture. :confused: Not exactly sure what you mean. I know you stated that members or associates don't have to be of Scottish background (which many people mis-perceive as it is) but what exactly is common southern celtic culture and how would it play a role? Thanks in advance for your input.
fantasy
Yet another SHTF thread.
Re: Are you prepared?
Do you want to survive or not? My point is that there are a hundred SHTF threads. The sad thing is, when I point out the unlikelihood of a race war or some civil war or something, people get p!ssed!. If I post again, then they really get p!ssed off! I feel like I'm raining on someone's parade or something.
Re: Are you prepared?
I hope you continue to read posts and become aware of what's going around you. What exactly is it that you're referring to, that's going on around me?
Re: Are you prepared?
Wake up, pal. OK, buddy. Anyway, the previous poster above who spammed all those examples didn't include anything new. What was cited were things that have pretty much always been around. I just can never understand the perennial fascination with SHTF stuff.
Re: Scottish Highland Games, Celtic Fests International, Clan Finder
Cool. Any Munros on SF?
Re: Duke: To My Friends Who Gather from America and All Over the World on Stormfront! Urgent Call For Your Assistan
Dear Dr. David, [..] Thanks to the Jews I never had health insurance. Please contact me about leaving you as my sole heir I just noticed this thread about Dr Duke's current plight at the hands of our hereditary enemy. I, too am afflicted with an illness (let's face it - this thing is always terminal) and away from the site and will also leave Dr Duke as my sole heir (never married or had children). I stupidly had not even considered this before. I think it's a good idea to consider donating real property.
Re: Hate Graffiti Plagues So. CA Neighborhood
Amanda Susskind, regional director of the ADL's Los Angeles office, said attacks like those in Torrance should be taken seriously and used for education. In other words, pay Shecky Sheckelstein from the ADL big $$$ to come out and educate you about hate. That's how that works.
Re: I think we should forego the swazis and Hitler avatars
ya, cause we need more armchair warriors like you in this movement. :rolleyes: As opposed to what, goose stepping around in a ridiculous caricature of a '30's Nazi uniform? You're with NSM right? :rofl
Re: I think we should forego the swazis and Hitler avatars
we'll certainly garner more attention and get a hell of a lot further than you or anyone like you ever will. Get a lot further with what? You guys are the laughingstock of White Nationalism. NSM is a joke.
Re: NSM = Losers
Must be a bi*ch being the only down as*sed white boy on storm front. Sorry, I don't understand ghetto.
Re: Why I don't believe in the Holocaust
The Holocaust actually did happen and there are many facts and figures to back it up. It also has NO bearing on White Nationalism. I do not understand why in Hell anti-semites have to be Holocaust deniers. It contributes nothing but to make us look bad.
Re: Why I don't believe in the Holocaust
004, please be careful with using the terminology that our opponents have dreamed up. Take a step back and let's ask ourselves, what exactly is holocaust denial? I think most people would say that this term means the belief that zero Jews were killed by the Nazis during WW2. Using this definition, we are definitely not denying the holocaust. On the other hand, if the definition is saying the death toll was anything other than the magic number of 6 million, then using this definition many mainstream historians could be considered holocaust deniers. Our opponents like to create confusing words and phrases like political correctness and affirmative action so that people go around in circles in endless debate, and create opportunities to make people on either side look bad. It's a divide-and-conquer strategy. Better to be more precise on our choice of words. In today's soundbyte era, quotations out of context are easy to make, but let's try our best to use useful rather than confusing words. There's nothing confusing about it. You're either a Holocaust denier, or you're not. ANY white nationalist you speak to, who doesn't believe the magic number of six million, will not admit that there was a systematic killing of Jews. If you stop them and say fine, you don't buy the 'magic number'--but will you admit that the Hitlerites and their allies killed large numbers of Jews because they were Jews? They won't do it. They'll say it's because they were all partisans and/or it was due to a typhus epidemic in a camp.
Re: Why I don't believe in the Holocaust
A holocaust is what the jews did to 100 million white christians I must have missed this one(?) __________________ http://www.socialistparadise.net/forum/index.php
Re: You Americans are so lucky
Re: Post #8. See, this is what's known as a waste of bandwidth.
Re: Firefox - A Better Browser For Whites That's Spreading Like Wildfire
I've been using Firefox and couldn't be happier. I did have Opera as well (which has very little bloat) but I can't remember why I uninstalled it. Yeah, I recommend Firefox.
Re: Is the Great State of California really a lost cause?
Yes, California is lost; that is obvious. At this point we need to write it off and encourage a separate Mestizo Nation in the Southwest. Fighting this is worse than useless. Keeping that in mind, we need to encourage the Mestizo takeover of Southern California as well as support for the Black Belt in the South. Many Blacks are leaving CA for the Southern states. Everyone praises the book Civil War II , so let's acknowledge reality. Worse is better . While I'm on this subject, I'd like to encourage all Californians who read this, to register with the Peace & Freedom Party, the third-largest political party in CA. This party needs registered voters in order to stay on the ballot. The fact that that party is Socialist and has planks in its party platform regarding minority rights, bothers me not. They are for workers and against the ruling clique.
3rd Bloc Strasserites
Hmmm. Nothing there. That site has since gone bye-bye. Anyhow, here is a new Third Positionist site with a forum: http://www.folkandfaith.com/index2.shtml It is Third Position , and not right wing. Patriotards and con$ervatives should go elsewhere.
http://blog.odessa-syndicate.com
This is an excellent Third Position blog that just appeared: http://blog.odessa-syndicate.com
Re: Websites
The above blog also has a new forum. Very interesting: http://forum.odessa-syndicate.com/
Re: Websites
This is a brand new racialist site: http://anglolatin.com/forum/ It has a chat box on the main index, which you don't have to register for. It allows you to chat with others in real time. According to the site administrator, the place allows for more participation beyond just making posts. For example, I think you can start your own sub-forum or something. Ask the admin.
Re: READ THE NEWSPAPER?? WATCH THE NEWS?? LA TIMES?!?!?!!!!
If you are reading the LA Times and expect to get anything close to truth, if you are actually believing THEIR reporting, you are one deluded person! If you had paid attention to the thread, you'd see that we were discussing the homicides which are now being listed in the Times ; they merely were compiling the reported homicides; it doesn't have anything to do with their opinion.
Re: You Nazi/KKK Morons
Hey, Unregistered, save this post and show it to your World History teacher and then save it again for your Civics teacher in a couple years. Both will praise you in front of the whole class. You won't have to worry about your zits or funny clothes--just bask in the glow, while you can. But I think you are the classic guy who ignored history. But if I am wrong, just welcome those Mexicans into your town, some swamp-state (that is apparent). I can't speak for the KKK folks but as far as the neo-Nazis go, you are just another cheap race traitor looking for a little attention at your high school. What you KKK and neo-nazi scandalous undignified hell-bound morons think when the black man become president of what ya'll want to call it the white man's land. Isn't that something whites following a black man's lead isn't that something. I am a white person and I would love to have a black man run the country because it can't get too much worse than what Bush has put us through. I think that if anybody need to be over there in Iraq it should be the KKK's,Nazi, and all other gang members(no matter the race) because they want to kill and take over something that they will never be able to. Send the innocent Americans back and put George Bush on the front line and see what he thinks then. You all are just immature and need to grow up and makes this a better America for EVERYONE!
Re: What's your Ethnic/Cultural Heritage? Along with your Location?
Hungarian/German/Swedish over here in Akron, Ohio. Both sides of my family have been compiling our lineage for years now. I believe they've gone as far as the late 1600's to early 1700's. Very grateful to have such a dedicated family! :)
Re: NEW MEMBERS from around the world, stop in & say 'hello' HERE. Part V
Hello everyone! My name is Maddie and I'm a Kentuckian transplanted to Ohio. :) I've been lurking for a couple years now and finally decided to join up. I look forward to meeting like-minded people and having great discussions! Thanks!:D
Re: Ladies, Post Your Introductions Here
Hello ladies! I'm 22 years old and I live in Ohio. Currently working two jobs with plans to go to school next year for programming/Web design. I've been lurking SF for awhile now, finally got the courage to join! So happy to see a community of other WN women. Cheers! :clink
Re: Favorite Cheap/Drugstore Beauty Products/Treatments?
Pretty much anything from the Rimmel line of cosmetics works for me. I have very fair, sensitive skin so it can be challenging to find products that won't break me out and Rimmel products have yet to mess me up! L'Oreal products are great too. I especially like their mascaras.
Re: Do you really think you're the only nationalist in town?
I'm glad that I've found another WN in my current (freshman) year already. It's a great thing to be able to have some like minded people to be around, especially with the state of public high schools today.
Recommended reading
For the past few days, I've been reading George Lincoln Rockwell's White Power , and I can't recommend it enough for WN/NS youth. In it Rockwell puts forth a very easy to understand and idealistic view of what has failed and what works in order for us to make a real and effective impact with our movement. One of my favorite things that Rockwell writes is how active measures must be taken to get things done, rather than to be sneaky and ineffectual. He also provides very clearly what he believes. To the reader, this helps to give a great understanding of how to apply the ideals of White racial integrity in a more modern and socially-Marxist time. Although, out of the whole book, I feel that above all, he gives great inspiration and hope for the reader with his optimistic outlook for our future. As someone who is racially aware, but felt somewhat disorganized in what exactly I can do to help, I highly recommend White Power.
Re: Why Are Blacks so loud and obnoxious?
In Africa, being loud and drawing as much attention to yourself as possible allowed you to breed the most. Trying to combine this with our more strategic, reserved breeding methods leads to us becoming swamped with too many people who don't work well in a country designed for whites. Unfortunately, they are rewarded for this behavior with leftist social programs that only punish whites.
Re: A boss's advice for fellow WN youth
This is very good advice. It's very important to improve our situation, but if you don't have your own life in order, you can't be very effective as a nationalist. Before we can help our race, we have to help ourselves become the best we can be.
Great Book for young WN: White Power
For the past few days, I've been reading George Lincoln Rockwell's White Power , and I can't recommend it enough for WN/NS youth. In it Rockwell puts forth a very easy to understand and idealistic view of what has failed and what works in order for us to make a real and effective impact with our movement. One of my favorite things that Rockwell writes is how active measures must be taken to get things done, rather than to be sneaky and ineffectual. He also provides very clearly what he believes. To the reader, this helps to give a great understanding of how to apply the ideals of White racial integrity in a more modern and socially-Marxist time. Although, out of the whole book, I feel that above all, he gives great inspiration and hope for the reader with his optimistic outlook for our future. As someone who is racially aware, but felt somewhat disorganized in what exactly I can do to help, I highly recommend White Power. Update: Original link didn't work. However, I know there are html versions on the American Nazi Party's website, and I think there is one on Skrewdriver.net.
Re: Everybody Subscribe to THIS Youtube Channel!!!
I wouldn't be too quick to go labeling her a jew. She doesn't look like one to me, and she puts quite a bit of effort into her videos. Some seem questionable, like the birthday video for Hitler, but that would be her just trying to add some humor to her videos. With however young she is, she wouldn't be putting out videos that are completely serious and just give facts. YouTube already has videos of William Luther Pierce and David Duke that do that. I think she is just trying to target a younger WN demographic.
Re: How to survive high school as a white nationalist
Thanks for the advice. My school is filled with so many blacks it makes me worried. Some of them manage to act like a human being, but most are like loud, annoying apes. These are the same people who so many white girls choose to date. It really disgusts me. I'm glad I haven't shared my opinions with too many people who would think I'm a fascist or neo-Nazi (I'm not). I have one friend who isn't a complete sheep, but I think he's a little to unaware of the Jewish problem to be ready for WN. For now, this will really be helpful for the rest of my time in school.
Re: Teachable Moment: Heed the 4-S Rule!
Great post. This is a good way to think things over before you do something that gets you in trouble. I'll keep this in mind.
Hello from Missouri
Hello everyone. I am 15 and a freshman in high school. I have heard of this site before, and looked at a few threads, and now I feel it is time for me to join. I look forward to having a great time and learning how to protect our identity in what seems to be an increasingly darkening world.
Re: New members post your introductions here II
Hello everyone. I'm Joe. I joined here to talk with fellow white nationalists. I only really have one friend who is somewhat aware of the problems we have to face in today's current leftist world. I am certain this will be a great way to share my views with like-minded people.
Re: To antis - Why?
I'm fine with being deported if there is ever a Nationalist revolution in Europa. Go ahead and deport me bro, I don't care, seriously.
Re: Parktown Boys High
I was dismayed that those thugs and the master were only suspended from the hostel- they should be expelled from the school. They're still in a position where they can intimidate the victims. They should also be criminally charged, as should the school's management team for letting this happen. And as for wearing the purple ribbons in support of this whole disgusting thing, well it's just going to make sure it never stops isn't it.
Re: CAN ANYONE GET ONTO NATIONAL ALLIANCE SITE??????
I still can't get on the National Alliance web site. I have AOL, could that have something to do with it? It's 3-11-05 at 1:30 AM and this has been going on for about 3 days. I know it's not just me. Can't Stormfront provide an answer instead of everyone guessing? Are we not white people? 2508
Re: Wow Florida!
Tampa here just moved down here from Boston....big difference....found a couple like minded people....always looking for more.....
Re: BBC told to put more gay people on children's TV
I'd agree with this if they meant to let children know how wrong it is to be gay, but I know they just want kids to become gay themselves. How stupid can people get? Homosexuality is a problem that could potentially kill us all.
Re: Do you think that the Hip Hop-culture will destroy the white America?
I listen to hip hop and I can say it worsened with the time and the diffusion of gangsta rap.I'm also an opponent of dance music in general(but hip hop could do it very well and often it talked about the real life and not only sex, differently by most of white dance music). i have to say that at once it was a great music with great messages, and as white people have the right to live free also black people should never have been enslaved ( I mean they didn't anything wrong to us and genetically speaking they are usually respectful , they try to work when it's possible , etc., the ghetto situation was created mostly by white people).moreover hip hop is also compatible with white people and also didn't make differences between black and white.
Re: African Americans vs. Eastern Europeans
slavs are hard punchers..hard to knock out too, they are also intelligent..to me eastern europeans in general can fight very well(es. emilianenko vs jackson)but i have to say that i prefer afros to slavs
Re: BOXING
train, train, train! and then spar, spar, spar! only thing i can say. you should also use light weights(no more than 1 kilo for hand).then after a while when u master it u should try to learn about at least low kicks and some other martial arts in order to know ur opponent and not get destroyed in one shot cs u didn't expect it
Re: Why Do I Dislike Black People?
I am not White and Not Black. I love all mankin regarding of your skin color. The reason that I don't like Black people are because I have seen they are rudines, disrespect and irgorant. On the train, Black people always step on my feet and didn't even say a thing. They pretending nothing happen. For the Black guys, usually they step on my feet and Black ladies, whether she step on my feet, or hit on me with her body or her bags, or burge. For white people, if they accidently hit or step on my feet, they say, I am sory. and black people don't. When the train open the door, whole bunch of black enter the door at same time and I am trying to squiz out in in the midle of them. White people normaly don't do that. Whether they let people out first or they line up come in on one side and let people out one side. I have lost so many bikes. Four of my bikes stolen and were caught by black male. Black people seem don't care about others, even their own race. They don't even think about what they do that will effect on how others view on them. I want you to know, there are good and nice black people assisting too. 2508
Re: Oriental takeover of Canada
In case anyone is curious about what is going on in Canada in terms of white culture, it is being destroyed. The Canadian government's policies of immigration and multiculturalism are turning Canada's cities into Asian ghettos. I know that when many Americans come to Toronto they are shocked- the number of orientals, east indians and muslims in the urban areas is unbelievable. As far as vancouver goes, they should just sell it to China. At least that way they would get some money out of it. It is an oriental nightmare. The Canadian government are responsible for this. Former Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau, a French Canadian catholic, literally destroyed this country with his idealistic vision of a multicultural Canada. whining on the internet is all you can do I guess? How many similar threads have you posted in different forums? Try petition or rally I guess will get more media exposure of your sentiment. But unfortunately 90% of cases you won't be given that chance. Multicultural identity is what Canada is going to transform into and Canada is going to become the global leader of future multicultural society. Try leaving Canada and move to the US. There is no need to spam every forum with the same thread.
Re: Final argument.
Brilliant, mob rules.:rolleyes: Have you ever thought about the inherent flaw in so-called democracy? That is the tyranny of the bell-curve, in other words, the average and idiots rule http://e.imagehost.org/0261/2004election_by_iq.png Funny how the states with the biggest IQ voted for Obama. And the states with the smallest IQ voted for Mccain. Oh the irony....
Re: Final argument.
I'm sure you can find a racist politician who's sympathetic to your cause. Ask him to do the following: 1. Create the endangered culture act that protects/preserves cultures that are beginning to fade. Though in my opinion, I don't know why some people would want to preserve a 3000 year old tradition. The best thing about new generations is that they are different from the previous generation. Otherwise they'd just end up repeating the previous generation. You Americans and Europeans use to worship Jewish Gods, hoping that he'd grant you an eternal afterlife. Glad my mostly atheist generation finally said no to that nonsense. 2. Pass the endangered race law that will prevent any race from becoming dissolved. If a race only has 100 million purebreds left, the law will mandate the race to have 8 or more children. It will also prevent the endangered race from mixing with people outside of its race. 3. Pass an international immigration equation law that keeps immigration balanced. For example, if there are 1.2 million Japanese living in Russia. Than 1.2 million Russians should be allowed to live in Japan. If 20 million Chinese are living in America, than 20 million Americans should be allowed to live in China. Combine that with the culture preservation law and everyone will be happy. Not only that, but new cultures will be created from the mixing of various cultures. No one owns this Earth. Who said the blacks own the giant fields and mountains of Africa? Who said the Brazilians own the giant rain forest of South America? Where on their bodies does it say you were the first person in this land, thus you own this land. With that philosophy we Americans would have to give back the continent of America back to the native Americans. But none of us wants to do that. We stole their land remember? All's fair in love and war. Why hasn't anybody commented on this yet? To be honest with you, this is the only way I can physically imagine you WN achieving your goals. If there's another way for you WN to achieve your goals then please share it with me. Let's be real here. How are you going to get the 60+ million Mexicans, 30+ million blacks, and 20+ million other non-whites to leave peacefully? Mexican fertility rate for the average female is almost bigger than whites and blacks combined. They are projected to be the majority by the year 2042. I once watched a story on CNN that claimed Asians would become the majority in the USA 70 years from now. While China's economy increases their immigration also increases. According to that CNN report, Chinese immigration would dramatically surpass Mexican immigration. None of the aforementioned non-whites are going to leave peacefully. Money makes the world spin, and America is rich. Are you going to resort to force? If you WN succeeded at starting a race war the non-whites would team up and attempt to defeat the whites. The whites would win, but they'd regret it. The damage done to America (the West's strongest Nation) would only give the East an even bigger lead over the west. Assuming whites would be in the minority when this scenario takes place, every state in America would be reduced to rubble. Don't forget that the military has a lot of minorities. Cities would be burned to the ground. Children of all races would be raped and murdered. Why would you put my or your children/brethren through such a bloody conflict? The only way for whites to have a clean victory is if they received help from Europe. Though, I don't think the pacifist French would allow such violence. And something tells me that papa bear China wouldn't appreciate the forceful removal of its citizens from America (the Chinese Americans will most likely be in the majority in America by the time this scenario takes place). If it was just a war between blacks and whites, the blacks would get their asses handed to them on a silver platter. If that day ever comes just remember that one nice African who had this nice little conversation with you on stormfront. Let my children and family live. Why am I begging for my life? :) The only way immigrants will leave America peacefully is if A) America stops being the richest Nation on the planet. And B) Africa, Mexico, and every other Nation stops being a third world ****hole. You WN should move to Africa, become President of African countries, and fix up Africa's economy. It shouldn't be too hard for you. One American dollar is worth thousands in some African Nations. And throw in some KFC joints and African Americans would be migrating in the millions back to Africa. And to get rid of the Mexicans, tell a lot of your WN friends to move to Mexico. The Mexicans will follow you back to Mexico. Because wherever the white man goes, money follow$. Then hire the Mexicans to build mansions. Said Mexicans will stay and live in the aforementioned mansions. My post might sound outlandish, but this is the only way I can physically imagine your plans working. Or how about instead of whining about being the minority you learn to accept it. Just because one race is in the majority does not mean the minority will suffer. Look at the Asian Americans, they are in the minority, yet on average, they live more successful lives than Caucasians. Contrary to popular belief, being the minority didn't dissolve their race, culture, or heritage. Some China towns have more Chinese heritage than some Chinese cities. Look at the whites in South Africa. The blacks are in control of the government and they are also in the majority. Yet most of the whites are living in mansions and the blacks (the ones who built said mansions) are living in poverty. Whites can still be the strongest even when they are in the minority. Put a Japanese person in Africa. How many Africans do you think it would take to equal the mental power of one modern Asian? Not all blacks are dumb though. Just remember the next time you go outside on a chilly night and look at the stars, some black youth in America is also looking at it and wondering what's out there. Not all blacks are failures. All I can say is, get used to being the minority. Rich people do not reproduce as much as poor people. Once the Mexicans and Africans get richer they'll stop reproducing as much. Then whites will probably end up being the majority again. Nothing is permanent/static. But if the day ever comes when whites are in the minority, you'll be able to get away with the double standards that come with being the minority. You'll get your own AIPAC style lobby. You'll be able to publicly say racist things towards the majority. We African and Caucasian minorities have to stick together. We'll say racist things about the Mexican and/or Chinese majority when they aren't looking. You'll also get affirmative action. Enjoy your free ride to Yale University. :) Notice how Japan isn't involved in any of this. They love their Japanese lifestyle of being slaves to their various corporations. Oh, and to the people who are wondering why I have such a weird username. Once you go binary you don't go back.
Re: Final argument.
Some WN actually think they are on the side of righteousness. They actually think there's some people on this Earth who were born evil. WN need to realize that they are only doing what their greedy/selfish consciousness tells them to do. Just remember that if your goals ever came true, you'd make millions of people unhappy. And don't you dare say your opinion is in the majority. If your opinion was in the majority, stormfront's traffic would be in the millions and your Euro conference would have had a turn out equivalent to the million man march. Sorrow, joy, and anger are nothing more than chemical reactions. Both giving and receiving gives us pleasure. Humans only donate to charities in order to make themselves feel better. Want to know why there's no cure for AIDS, cancer, and mental disorders? It's because no one cares about those problems until one of their loved ones get infected by it. If every man, women, and child on this Earth was focused on those disorders we would have discovered a cure for them decades ago. Think back. What's the first thing you said as a teen when you discovered one of your family members had a mental disorder? What's the first thing you wanted to do after you discovered a person you loved had cancer? You said to yourself I'll find a cure. Then you complained at society for not creating a cure for those problems. You even began to worry about other people around you who were suffering from those problems. You probably said to yourself you'll do more to find cures. But here's the secret. You only begun to care about the problem because someone important to you got diagnosed with the problem. Before that person got diagnosed with that problem you didn't give a damn about that problem. And if you didn't know the person who got diagnosed, you wouldn't have cared. If the person who got diagnosed was a stranger, you wouldn't have cared about it. Even the people who make themselves feel bad by cutting themselves or drowning themselves in alcohol, only do it because they believe they deserve it. And then there's the group of people who only do things because of karma. They assume that if they do good things, good things will happen to them. They also choose not to do bad things because they think bad things might happen to them. We're nothing more than a collection of molecules doing basic chemical reactions. Take away the computer, guns, and clothes and you'd be nothing more than a hairless monkey. Your immature pride is nothing more than a defect of your D4 receptor in your brain. Once you turn 97 and your waiting for your life to end on your deathbed you'll realize just how futile your life was. Go ahead and brainwash your child and pass your genes into the future. Your children and grandchildren will eventually die. No matter how much ideas you brainwash into your children, you'll never be reincarnated into your child. Your child will be born with his own healthy body and consciousness. You are not immortal, and even if you were, nothing can stop the big bang. Name one selfless action you've done in your life. My mind would be blown if you could answer that. My whole existence and everything I thought or believed about the universe would be a lie. The only way I justify my actions is by going along with the majority. If Caucasians didn't want to be around non-whites, Europe and America would have been like Japan. The West opened its gates to all countries across the globe. Yeah, it's true that some whites are beginning to worry because whites are starting to become the minority. But if whites weren't starting to become the minority, no white would care. Whites just want to be able to brag about how they are the ones in control of America (the strongest Nation on the planet). This whole Mexican immigration debacle will be resolved just like the segregation of the 60s. Listen to this video at part 1:45. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LCL2IqgjSc Watch how the minuteman falsely suggest that the Native American (in the video) is from Spain. Last time I checked, Spain was a part of Europe. Meaning that he assumed the Mexican originated from Spain. Do you really think that guy knows or cares about preserving European culture? He doesn't give a damn about Europe. I've seen many other videos of the people at those rallies say speak English. Didn't the Mexican's language originate from Europe? There was even a debate a few years ago when a politician tried to make English the officially language (to counter the Spanish speaking Mexicans). Where does Spanish come from? Really, what the whole immigration battle is about is European culture vs another European culture. England culture vs Spain culture. Obviously it's more than that, seeing how most Mexicans are not from Spain. Some Mexicans are Native Americans, but the minuteman in that video wasn't aware of that fact, nor did he care about it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdlMWj0Lh9o See. They don't give a damn about race. They are pro American, not racist like you WN. The people who wanted slavery got their asses handed to them in the civil war. You WN are the descendants of those people. Quit being so butthurt. In the 60s the vast majority of Americans wanted to end segregation. As of right now the WN movement is too small to even be called a minority. I have been to bigger birthday parties than your beloved Euro conference. If the day ever comes when the majority of Americans want segregation, I'll leave America.... and move to Europe. No, just kidding. With my brains, I'll become an African king.
14/88 from the Netherlands
After reading these forums off and on for a few years, I decided to make an account at last. I'm sick of my country's politics and the so-called right wing we have being misled by a capitalist and a jew. I'm from Rotterdam, the Netherlands.
Re: Final argument.
Why don't you try to scroll all the way to the bottom of the page, click on the board stats, and rewrite it with the proper stats in mind. That should keep you busy for a while. Or, on second thought, just forget the whole thing; it's misbegotten beyond repair. :rolleyes: According to big boards, it only has 5458492 post. Stormfront has been here since 1995 and it only has 50 million post? Wow, and to think I thought some of the forums I lurked was slow. Oops, I misread that. Stormfront only has 5 million post. :) That's an embarrassment for the quote unquote world's first popular hate website. If you scroll down the list of forums on the big-boards website you'll realize that most of the sites there are only 2 or 3 years old. Also, big boards sucks at keeping track of things. They only have English forums on their site. Japanese forums are much bigger than our American ones.
Re: Final argument.
Pardon me now but I must to go to the suggestion thread and post a request for a 'flush handle' on this thread. I hope you were being sarcastic. There's nothing worse than people who violate the law of freedom of speech. You can call me whatever you want, but when you start violating my freedom of speech you're going too far. Thanks for all the replies. I might not be able to respond to all of them, but I'll definitely read all of them. And thanks again to the moderator who approved of this thread.
Re: Final argument.
They didn't vote 90%, are you just making numbers up? I don't have the numbers here but I believe it was around 65%(or a bit more, maybe 70%) went for Obama. But how many young whites did? Probably about 50% or less. Something like 40-45% of young voters are non-white. http://www.time.com/time/politics/ar...700525,00.html I'm not just talking about the youths who helped Obama defeat Mccain. I'm also talking about the youths that favored Obama 4 to 1 in the primaries against Clinton and Edwards. The youth vote is only like 15% of the total, it didn't have a huge effect on the election. You're right though, the jewish brainwashing is very effective. The youth vote according to most estimates has finally surpassed the baby boomer group. Its become the biggest demographic in America. Plus, more than 90% of them are tree hugging, progressive liberals, such as myself. YouTube - Generation WE : The Movement Begins... Millennials are the largest generation in American history. Born between 1978 and 2000, WE are 95 million strong, compared to the 78 million Baby Boomers. WE are politically, socially, and philosophically independent, and are spearheading a period of sweeping change in America and around the world. You WN are failing to recruit this demographic. You guys need a cool/hip WN hybrid who can recruit this demographic. I'll become that person for you, if you wish. Yes, I'm drunk right now. This isn't a Klan website, do you even know what this site is about? Um, yeah? When did I say it was a klan website? There are 150,000+ members of this website. Try scrolling down to the bottom of the main page. Are you just making up numbers? Most of stormfront members/visitors are antis. I've been to websites with only 20,000 members and they move 90 times faster than this site. Protip: If this site even had 40,000 active members you would notice it. 150,000 is bigger than some cities. Most of the antis that registered were probably drive by antis, who only made one post. But I could be wrong. Maybe there really are 150,000+ members. But if there really was 150,000+ members they would be some of the least active members on the entire Internet. Oh, and I guess I should tell you about this one site that has 30,000+ active members who are insanely racist. These guys spew hatred left and right. They make stormfront look like a group of black loving pacifist. They are much better debaters than the people at stormfront. But to my surprise, when it came to choosing our next President more than 80% of them were openly in support of Obama. But not in the way you guys were in support of him. Apparently they didn't like Bush very much. I wonder how many people on stormfront are nothing but talk. When it comes down to it, I bet most stormfronters probably don't care about what race they were randomly born into. They just go to stormfront to let loose their emotions about society. The name of this site will remain Anonymous, unless someone can convince me otherwise My generation? I'm not a boomer. What on earth makes you think everyone here is of that generation? My bad. No, actually the non-whites voted for him because he was black. Lots of the whites did too. 1. It's a well documented fact that blacks love democrats. 2. Bush is arguably the worst Republican in the history of the Republican party. 3. Mccain is a republican who campaigned on continuing 4 more years of Bush's policies. 4. Obama and Hilliary's policies was practically identical, but Obama was a more likable person (even the whites agreed with this statement). Any liberal candidate (be it Hillary, Ron Paul, or Obama) was destined to get more than 90% of the African vote this year thanks to Bush. We come from many states and countries. You shouldn't stereotype people. Yeah, but the vast majority of you come from (backwards) redneck states. You grew up next to the slaves that your great great grandparents use to own. It's no wonder why you hate blacks. Combine that with their inferior education that they received in their segregated schools. I'd probably hate blacks too if I grew up in that environment. Note how the New England states (the states with the highest IQ and most liberals) don't feel this way towards blacks. I actually grew up in many cities of Massachusetts and Connecticut and I've never heard one ounce of racism. All the blacks in New England speak normal English. Unlike the uneducated blacks of the south. Here's an idea. Maybe if you treat a minority good, the minority will behave good? Compare the Arabs in Brittan to the Arabs in America? Do you see the American Arabs behaving badly in the USA? Maybe the reason why the Arabs behave badly in Brittan is because the Brits treated them badly. Are you serious? According to this profile: , this website is in the top 10,000 visited website on the entire internet out of billions. It gets 300-500 thousand unique visitors per month. Again, most of the traffic comes from lurkers. I wont say anything else about this. Just look at how slow this site moves. The speed of this forum might seem fast to you middle aged guys, but if you ever visited a non hate website you'll be surprised about how slow stormfront is. The proof is all around you. Once again, we're of many different generations here. I really doubt the current generation is any smarter than the previous, where is your proof? I can't believe how stupid this post is. Most of them are middle aged men who grew up in low IQ redstates such as Tennessee. No offense, btw. 20% is not a majority. Yeah, I know. Hence the reason why I wasn't referring to my generation. When I said 1 out of 5 are atheist I was referring to America as a whole. Including the baby boomer generation.
Final argument.
Give me a break with this one mods. It took me 1 hour and 30 minutes to type all of this. This is my final argument. Also, I request that you send the contents of the third paragraph to your leader Don Black. Now that Obama is destined to become the 44th President of the USA, your dreams, goals, and ideals have been defeated. Let me elaborate. Obama's biggest demographic was the youth demographic. More than 90% of America's youth voted for Obama. Without their help, Obama wouldn't have been able to get elected. The young generation (my generation) sees the world without color. They are the first colorblind generation. Apparently the dangerous drug infested schools, minority violence, and corrupt MTV culture was not enough to scare them away from voting for an African American candidate. What are we noticing with the passage of time? The KKK is losing its power, credibility, and acceptance in our society. While minorities, such as blacks, are becoming more accepted into our society. In 130 years, blacks went from being labeled 3/5th a human, to segregation, to assimilation, to leader of the Nation. If it continues at this rate, I honestly cant predict what's next for blacks. Think about what you WN are doing here? This website has been here for a decade yet you have less than 10,000 members and you magically believe you're in a position to be making demands? How exactly do you WN plan on achieving your goals? How are you going to force the 60 million Mexicans, 30+ million Africans, and 20+ million other non-whites back to their native countries? Not to mention the millions of interracial friendships, mixed-race, and interracial couples in the USA. Oh, and let's not forget about the liberal extremist who bomb boats and buildings to protect wildlife and nature. And something tells me that Japan, China, Mexico, Israel, etc... wouldn't appreciate the forceful removal of its citizens from the USA. And don't say they'll just leave peacefully. Why the hell would anybody get up and leave from the richest Nation in the world? Money makes the world go around, and America just happens to be one of the richest Nations in the world. As long as America has money, people will keep flocking to it. Hate groups such as the white supremest, skinheads, KKK, and neo-nazi groups are on the decline, meanwhile the direct opposite of hate groups are on the rise (an African just got elected POTUS). And as I said earlier, the current generation doesn't care about race, hence the reason why 90% of them voted for Obama. They did what your generation, the baby boomer generation, was incapable of. They judged an African by the content of his character, not by the color of his skin. What you WN need is a leader with charisma. A man who can make the impossible, possible. And I shall become that leader. Yes, I'm black, and yes that was indeed sarcasm. You WN come from redneck states such as Louisiana and Kentucky. I'm sure you can find a racist politician who's sympathetic to your cause. Ask him to do the following: 1. Create the endangered culture act that protects/preserves cultures that are beginning to fade. Though in my opinion, I don't know why some people would want to preserve a 3000 year old tradition. The best thing about new generations is that they are different from the previous generation. Otherwise they'd just end up repeating the previous generation. You Americans and Europeans use to worship Jewish Gods, hoping that he'd grant you an eternal afterlife. Glad my mostly atheist generation finally said no to that nonsense. 2. Pass the endangered race law that will prevent any race from becoming dissolved. If a race only has 100 million purebreds left, the law will mandate the race to have 8 or more children. It will also prevent the endangered race from mixing with people outside of its race. 3. Pass an international immigration equation law that keeps immigration balanced. For example, if there are 1.2 million Japanese living in Russia. Than 1.2 million Russians should be allowed to live in Japan. If 20 million Chinese are living in America, than 20 million Americans should be allowed to live in China. Combine that with the culture preservation law and everyone will be happy. Not only that, but new cultures will be created from the mixing of various cultures. No one owns this Earth. Who said the blacks own the giant fields and mountains of Africa? Who said the Brazilians own the giant rain forest of South America? Where on their bodies does it say you were the first person in this land, thus you own this land. With that philosophy we Americans would have to give back the continent of America back to the native Americans. But none of us wants to do that. We stole their land remember? All's fair in love and war. Again, keep in mind that I'm not requesting that you WN take this peaceful approach to accomplish your goals, I'm demanding it. After all, I'm the majority in this situation. I'm the one who's in power. By my estimations of non-white American minorities combined with white and non-white friendships/relationships we are 120 million strong. You WN on the other hand (well look at yourselves) this website is not exactly bustling with life. This site has been here for more than a decade yet its traffic is still minor compared to even the smallest of forums. Hell, give me 2 years and I could make a website with 4 times this site's traffic. Once your generation (the baby boomer generation) dies out America will finally be united. Of course this doesn't include your Neo-Nazi/skin head children who've you brain washed with your WN philosophy/propaganda. If your children aren't smart enough to come to their own conclusions about society, then maybe they deserve to feel the full backlash of society, no? But getting back to the point. My generation is the smartest generation in American history. Algebra, English, Science, etc... was much harder for my generation. Even the IQ of this generation is much higher than the IQ of your generation. Another thing that separates this generation from the old generation is religion. We are the first (majority) atheist generation. 1 out of 5 Americans are atheist. Unlike the previous generations, we don't believe in a magical Jew who will grant you eternal life if you worship him enough. We don't care about preserving 3000 year old traditions. To be honest with you, my generation simply doesn't give a damn about their futile existence on this Earth. White Nationalist always try to demonize things. Always labeling them good or evil. Well guess what, there is no such thing as good and evil. The wholesome stories that you read as a child about the heroic knight defeating the evil ruler was all a lie. All humans are self-righteous bastards. The dopamine chemicals of pleasure that we receive from giving are the same as the chemicals of pleasure that we receive from taking. Giving actually gives our brain more stimulation than receiving. All of your actions (be they good or bad) inadvertently end up helping you. Religious people are the greediest people on this planet. They only serve god in order to receive the benefits. And to the people who act good; they only act good hoping that others will behave good towards them. You WN try to demonize some people as if they were born evil. Protip: No none was born evil, nor does anybody choose to be evil. Do you think the 10 year old children in Iraq who suicide-bomb innocent civilians were born evil? Or do you think they were born into certain circumstances/events that lead them into that situation? Even if they WERE born evil, is it their fault that they were born that way? This also applies to pedophiles, serial killers, and drug addicts who are nothing more than products of the random events that fate/society placed on them. If you aren't an agnostic and/or religious moron than the only thing left is science. One of the biggest theories explaining our origin is the superstring theory: http://www.tenthdimension.com/medialinks.php http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_dimension YouTube - Beyond Einstein [1/2] To sum up the superstring theory. Vibrations in the 11th dimension initiated the big bang. The big bang as you know created stars. Every atom on our planet was created from thermal nuclear fusion of the hydrogen atoms in our sun. We humans are nothing more than a collection of cosmic stardust that is fated to restart come the next big bang. Assuming that we make it to the next big bang (billions of years from now). Also assuming will be able to get away from our sun before it expands 15 times its normal size and collapse upon its own weight. All it takes is an asteroid the size of Texas to end all life on this planet within seconds. Before reading the next paragraphs take time to understand just how futile your mortal existence is. You WN are so self centered that it probably blows your mind to know that the universe doesn't revolve around you. Immortality is nothing more than a futile illusion. We try to (pseudo) reincarnate ourselves by passing our DNA and ideals to our children. But in the end it's all futile. You will die, your son will eventually die, and his grandchildren will also die. The only thing that we can truthfully pride ourselves with when we are lying on our death-bed is how much we enjoyed our lives. Again, the pleasure of joy is nothing more than a chemical reaction within our brain. We tend to look down upon sex addicts and drug addicts but in truth they are doing the same exact things we've been doing our entire lives. They are just receiving the chemicals of pleasure in much stronger dosages than us. Sorrow and happiness don't actually exist. If our brains weren't sculpted the way they are we wouldn't feel anything. If Gods and spirits exist then that means they feel nothing. Because if they don't have a physical brain, they wouldn't feel happiness or sorrow. Happiness and sorrow can not exist without each other. For humans to know what happiness feels like they must first learn what sorrow feels like. It's the ****ty days in our lives that make the good days feel good. Everything in our universe follows these laws. Good cannot exist without evil. The definition of tall people can not exist without short people. But if you want to keep brain-washing your children with your good values, then be my guest. Whatever makes you feel better. In the vastness of outer space there are probably millions if not billions of creatures out there that are mentally and physically superior to us humans. If you cut all of the bullsh*t out of your WN rhetoric of preserving race and culture. It could basically be summed up as get off of my front yard you filthy negro and/or Mexican. Let's be honest here, what is a bad minority? The Asians of America commit less crime than the whites. The Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Taiwan, etc... consistently rank higher than whites in all fields of academics. Even in your own white Nations, the Asians are much more successful than the whites both economically and academically. Asian crime rate is significantly lesser than that of the Europeans. Gun crimes are non-existent in Asia. So getting back to the point, the only bad minorities in America are the blacks who commit crime and the Mexicans who steal your land. And the only one to blame for that are the whites. The main thing that separates these minorities from the others is that they did not choose to come to the white man's society. Blacks were brought here against their own free will. And Mexicans (descendants of Native Americans/Europeans) were always on these lands. How can you honestly say get off my land you filthy wetback when they were on this land 12,000 years before you even knew this land existed? I've noticed a trend with various civilizations. Every Nation/race that crossed Oceans always managed to become the best of their respective location. Every time a Nation/race crossed an ocean they became stronger (England, Japan, and USA). Oceans in a sense, have always been a filter for keeping out the weak. The people who were willing to risk it all in order to better their lives were most likely genetically superior to the people who decided to stay and accept things for what they were. I recall reading an article about how the IQ of the second generation Americans was 5 points higher than that of their European parents. This is what separates the Africans and native-Americans from the rest of the minorities. Simply put, the Europeans of America are the best of their kind. While the Africans were most likely the worst of their kind. When whites forcefully migrated 4.3 million Africans to America they negated the filter effect. I believe all races have their fair share of geniuses. Keep in mind that intelligences and beauty can be breed. One of the reasons why European women look so good is because of sexual selection. Most of the ugly European women were forcefully breed out thanks to Europe's sexual freedom. In most African, Arabian, and some Asian countries males/females have zero freedom when it comes to selecting a mate. Thus the result of this is uglier people being allowed to procreate. But getting back to the point. It's unfair to compare African Americans to other minorities. The true elite Africans, such as Obama's father (a man who went to Harvard University) should be compared to other minorities. Contrary to popular belief, Africans (not to be confused with African Americans) are the highest educated immigrants in the USA. Even higher than the Asians. And I'm willing to bet they commit less crimes than other minorities. Unlike other minorities who only come here for money. The African minorities come to America for the eduction so that they can return to their nation and help their developing economy. One of the first things Obama's father did upon receiving his diploma was return to Africa to help his people. Though, I'll probably contradict my own statement by saying this, many blacks have powerful European ancestors (thanks to the massive raping-and-selling that occurred during the slave trade). Only rich/successful whites could afford slaves back in those days. So that means many Africans have the genes of the more successful whites. Over 70% of Africans grow up in the USA without a father in the home. According to the statistics, children raised by a single parent is 3 times as likely to commit a crime or a felony. Don't blame the black fathers on this. They grew up without fathers too. Don't blame blacks for bad parenting. Europeans come form 3000+ years of successful families. While blacks come from 200 years of uneducated slaves. Two centuries ago, it was illegal for blacks to read a book. Then once slavery finally ended blacks had to deal with segregation. Segregated schools were (and still are) inferior to normal schools. Turns out, if you free a bunch of uneducated slaves, then you tell them to teach themselves in their *own schools. They wont be smart enough to teach themselves (WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSES IT)? If my great grandfather tried to get a job as a Lawyer or Doctor back in those days he would get laughed at. Compare that to your great grandfather who was most likely the man who was laughing at him. Blacks were last to be hired and first to be fired. Keep in mind that this was before hiphop, welfare, laziness, and black on black crime. The whites of those days judged blacks simply by the color of their skin color. Black crime was extremely low back in those days. Thanks to Martin Luther King's work in the 60s, segregation began to fade away. But the second he did this blacks had given up on trying to succeed in the white man's world. Blacks began to oppress themselves with anti white culture. The man (the mythical white person who keeps Africans down) became a symbol of hate amongst the African community. Gangster rap musicians made songs titled **** the police/schools/CEOs/etc.... If oppression could be defined as a music, that music would be called rap music. Hell, even some Japanese and Germans rap about oppression in their society: YouTube - Fler - Papa ist Zurück[German Rap] The raping of a white girl in a sense became the ultimate symbol of revenge for blacks. Keep in mind that blacks are the descendants of European rapist (the men who raped their great, great, great grandmother (but I guess since it was common practice back in those days it wasn't considered rape). Some black males got hung for looking into the eyes of white females back in those days. Thanks to lesser job opportunities, the only houses Africans could manage to live in were the projects/ghettos. 250 years of Slavery + segregation + oppression + lesser job opportunities + lesser academic opportunities + ghettos + gangster rap + lack of fathers = HIGH crime rate. And the worst thing of all that happened to blacks was the Democrat politicians who began to exploit the (latent potential) of the African American vote. Their welfare programs was the final nail in the coffin for all African Americans. You WN never had the mercy and/or reasoning skills to see any of this. I bet most of you simply just sat down with a couple of your racist friends and said look at all of those filthy naggers on welfare (giving such simple answers to complex problems). But now that Obama has been elected, things will start to change. Segregation/oppression are practically non-existent in my generation. Obama could become the first role model to African American youths who grow up in single parent homes. He'd be the first intellectual role model to them that wasn't in the Music, Movie, and/or Sports industry. Not only that but he defeated the paranoid notion of there being a white conspiracy against blacks. By becoming President, no job is impossible for blacks. Give blacks 8 more decades and I guarantee they will behave very differently. Oh wait, you wont be alive in 8 more decades. :) Congrats for making it through this wall of text.
Re: Final argument.
This post is a compilation of some of my previous post on stormfront. This post is directed towards the racist and/or white supremest members of stormfront. If you're a WN that doesn't believe one race is superior to another than don't read it. Also, thank you moderator for your approval of my final message. :) Why do you WN waste your day searching for articles to prove your superiority when you know it to be true? You don't see the Asians going around saying they are better at math. It was the whites who gave them that stereotype of being good at academics. Tell any Asian person that Asians are good at math and they'll get offended by it. They don't want the nerd stereotype to be associated with their race. You don't see Africans bragging about how good they are at sports. No African NBA or NFL athlete has ever been caught saying whites are inferior at sports. But you have seen *white NBA and NFL coaches say whites are inferior at sports. It was the white man who invented the term white man can't jump. Blacks *know they are superior at physical related things, and Asians *know they are better at mental related things. Hence the reason why you don't hear them saying it 24/7. You WN lack confidence in yourselves. All of your hate, jealousy, and animosity can be traced to low self-esteem. You waste your time and life ranting on the Internet in your parent's basement about how your race is better than other races, but in the end nothing changes and nothing gets accomplished. Why do you have such a big chip on your shoulder? It's as if you're trying to search for something to prove your superiority. As a black man I have never researched anything to prove I was better at physical related things, nor have I ever searched for something that said other races were worse at physical related things. I always knew I was better at physical related subjects. You WN need to believe in yourselves more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superiority_complex Stop letting your pride and/or ego affect your lifestyle. As a black man I've already accepted the fact that Asians are the most intelligent race, whites are the most creative race, and blacks are the (physically) strongest race. I've even accepted the fact that blacks are the least intelligent of the two groups. Though, I'll add this isn't static/permanent. The only reason why the white race currently has a higher ratio of intelligent/beautiful people is because of natural/sexual selection. The whites have been in more wars than any other race. They also suffered the most casualties of any race. Maybe by a complete string of luck, the dumber people of the Caucasian race was breeded out. Currently, (in my opinion) whites are blessed with both intelligence and beauty. Sadly, if we were to breed out the dumb/ugly people of the African race there would probably only be 2 million Africans left. The ratio of smart Africans to dumb Africans is 1 to 9000. Drop your childish pride and learn some sympathy. Put yourself in the shoes of the underdog. How would you feel if you were in their place? You don't know how it feels to be called a subspecies. I can't describe it in words but your insults cut deeper than any sticks or stones. Next time you see an African or Mexican think about their situation. Imagine what it would be like if fate placed you in their group. According to some of the propaganda I've read on stormfront, blacks are genetically predisposed to having less IQ and committing more crimes than whites. In other words, blacks aren't bad, mother nature and/or God decided to make them bad. Did they ask to be born that way? Why can't the majestic white race smile down upon their wrong doings, (for they do not know any better? I've even read some statements that claimed the few African American inventions (like the guy who invented the traffic signal and gas mask) wasn't the first person to invent the aforementioned things. Which begs the question, how much success is enough to satisfy your ego? Whites have invented and/or have been connected to the invention of 99.5% of all modern day products. How hard would it be to accept the fact that one African invented one non-essential item? Many WN claim they don't believe one race is superior/inferior to another because that isn't what the WN philosophy is about, but clearly that isn't the case. 90% of the post on stormfront are dedicated to putting the other non-white races down. Just be honest and admit that the entire WN philosophy is a tiny-veiled excuse for modern day racism. You don't care about preserving all races. Be honest, you don't like the way Africans and Mexicans look or behave. You prefer your fellow fair skinned whites. Just be honest and say it. Personally, I prefer whites too. You can't say it has anything to do with behavior. The east Asians commit the least crimes of all races. The east Asians do better in academics than whites (even in white countries). The only white Nation that can compete with Japan's economy is the USA (which I'll add is quite ironic seeing how the USA has the most minorities - 60+ million Mexicans and 30+ million blacks). I wonder why Germany, a Nation with the least minorities has an economy that is dramatically smaller than the USA). In Japan, it's not uncommon to leave your keys in the ignition while walking into a building (try doing that in Russia, Spain, or Italy and see how fast your car will get stolen). And in Japan, gun related deaths is non-existent. Tokyo's infrastructure is vastly superior to New York and Beijing combined. I can understand why you wouldn't want your children to grow up next to blacks and Mexicans, but when you say you don't want your children to grow up next to Indians, South Koreans, or Japanese you're obviously just being racist. The ironic thing about Japan is that more Caucasians immigrate to Japan than Japanese immigrating to white Nations. And the other argument the WN use to justify their WN agenda is the preservation of the white race and culture. Which begs the question, why do you WN believe race and culture should be static? When civilizations advance, culture should also advance. Who wants to keep the same static culture for 3000+ more years? Ask anybody that question and I guarantee they will say they want something different for their great, great grandchildren's generation. WN are too conservative. Culture should be changed for each generation; even if that culture isn't as good as the previous culture. Now addressing the other argument of preserving the Caucasian, Asian, and African races. This is an immature idea. Spoilers: Several hundred centuries from now every living creature will evolve. Blacks may one day look and behave like whites and whites might one day look and behave like blacks. Humans have only been on this Earth for 100,000 years yet we've already evolved into many different species and colors. The following picture shows the distribution of skin colors: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._color_map.png Just by living in different locations of the the Earth's equator, humans have changed into many different forms. Noone knows what humans will look like 1.3 million years from now. Dolphins will probably be smarter than us, 2.3 million years from now, (assuming that humans will still be alive 2.3 million years from now). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mole_People The mole people the people who live thousands of feet beneath the Earth's ground-level might one day evolve into a completely different species of human that surpass our own races in intelligence and beauty. So even if the fair skinned race gets extinct. Who's to say mother nature wont recreate it one day. You act as if whites will always be light skinned and blacks will always be dark skinned. You act as if blacks are finished evolving. Who knows how high African or Asian IQ will be once they evolve into their next forms several hundred years from now. No creature that has ever walked on the face of planet Earth has stopped evolving. Again, humans have only existed for a hundred thousand years, yet we've already managed to change into multiple different forms. You WN often seem to forget that we humans are nothing more than a collection of cosmic stardust. The sun is a giant mass of hydrogen atoms that fuse together to create heat and light. The atoms that our cells are composed of (carbon, oxygen, etc...) are all byproducts of the sun's fusion. Our cells are nothing more than a collection of atoms. Change 10 chromosomes on a human body and we would quite literally look and behave like cats and dogs. Our DNA is 98% similar to chimpanzees. So just remember next time you feel the need to insult another race, remember that you're insulting your fellow stardust. Once you die your body will be devoured by mother nature. As you know with the law of conservation of mass, matter can not be created or destroyed. It can only be transferred. Meaning the atoms in your body might one day become a part of the body of an African. We're all going to die eventually. You should enjoy your life while it last. Not that the Caucasians have to worry about becoming extinct. There are more than 900 million Caucasians in this world. Even if you reduced that number to 10 million. How hard would it be to set up a program that mandates the remaining 10 million whites to have 8 children a piece? 8 times 10 million = 80 million. 80 million times 8 = 640 million. The reproduction of races is linked to IQ. The higher the IQ the less the race reproduces. Hence the reason why the Japanese aren't reproducing. Once Africa's economy picks up and the schools get better Africans wont reproduce as much. The east Asians and Caucasians reproduce the least because they are the two most successful races. The rich/wealthy don't reproduce as much As a kid I use to hate the fact that I was born into the black race. Why did I have to be born into a group of failures? I didn't ask to be born into this group. Then once I matured I realized that everything in life works in equivalent exchange. I'm not the richest man in the world, but I'm certainly not the poorest. I'm not the best looking person in the world but I'm certainly not the ugliest. In exchange for being born into the race with the quote unquote least IQ, I happened to be born into certain circumstance that artificially increased my IQ. At a young age a friend of mine introduced me to Japanese manga (comic books). Said comic books awakened my inner nerd. I'm now majoring in computer Science. My GPA is higher than my fellow colleagues (including my Asian colleagues). I'm so far ahead of my class that I often find myself correcting my professor (who happens to be Asian). I get mad whenever I see Asians and Caucasians who aren't as smart as me. They aren't using their brains/bodies to their full potential. If I had an Asian's body I'd probably be ruling the world right about now. It's a shame that the vast majority of whites and Asians in the world are no smarter than George W Bush. Because they've never become self-aware and/or illuminated like I have they aren't able to use their body to its full potential. Needless to say, so far I haven't been impressed from what I've seen from my Asian or Caucasian friends. Or maybe I'm just overestimating their latent potential. But in the end, success in life has nothing to do with race. Oprah is the richest self made (female) billionaire in the USA. She's also the first self made female billionaire to reach the 3 billion mark. Tiger Woods, a man who is black according to the one drop rule (the rule that whites invented) is the highest paid athlete in the world. While Michael Jackson was still black he released an album called thriller that went on to becoming the most successful international album in the world. No two albums combined can match the thriller's success. Despite the fact that the odds was stacked against him. MLK managed to change the way a Nation viewed race. China's human rights is an embarrassment in comparison to the USA. China has 1.5 billion+ people yet the Chinese still haven't managed to produce a leader who fought for human rights the way MLK did. All the Imperial Wizards of the KKK combined and multiplied haven't had an affect on the way Americans view race. If the KKK and WN had a man like MLK, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation right now; I'd probably be herding goats in Africa somewhere. Moral of the story, get out of your bunker and do something with your life. While you sit there searching for facts to back up your self-esteem, other people are living very successful lives. You guys really need a self-esteem boost to get over your superiority complex. Whites are genetically superior to blacks. Your race was blessed with both intelligence and beauty. The inventions/innovation of the white race is permanently written in the history books. So even if they get wiped out and/or surpassed by the east Asians, the history books are already written. To put it bluntly, you've already won. Happy now? How does it feel to inherit the success of your ancestors? How does it feel to compete knowing you are the best? As I matured I learned to enjoy being born into the group of the underdogs. In the same way Oprah, Tiger Woods, and Obama have exceeded expectations when the odds were stacked against them, I too shall succeed. Even though I was unfortunately born into the black race, I've never let it stop me from succeeding. Everyday I surpass my Asian and Caucasian friends in wisdom, creativity, and intelligence (and I do so without even trying). And to all my fellow Computer Science majors who've managed to get past this wall of text. Ask your doctor about SICP. P.S. Never forget this one thing. WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE EVENTUALLY. You keep preaching go white team. Well I hate to tell you this. Once you die you'll no longer be a part of the white team. Once you die you'll never be able to brag about the accomplishments of the white team. You will no longer exist. Imagine sleeping, but never waking up. You will no longer be here to feel and/or care about things. Your existence will be over. So even if the white team wins and your ideals come to pass. You wont exist and/or be here to enjoy it. You will die, and so will your children. The only true competition in life is the competition of enjoying your lives. In the end if I've enjoyed my life more than you I've won. If being a WN entertains you then continue doing it. Nigerians are very poor. But that didn't stop Nigerians from winning the happiness survey. There are probably millions if not billions of alien lifeforms out there in space that surpass us humans in intelligence, wisdom, and creativity. No matter how strong the race/lifeform is, it wont be able to survive the next big bang. In the end, it's futile.
Re: Final argument.
You WN are forcing your ideals down our throat. Instead of forcing us, why not try to convince us. If whites wanted things to go your way, David Duke and Don Black would be idols. Do you want to know why porn sells? It sells because people like it. There's not a mythical Jew holding a gun to their heads telling them to buy porn. The only reason why MTV is popular is because the youths give it ratings. Last time I checked, Paris Hilton and Britney Spears (the women that are turning white female youths into sluts) are not Jewish. Maybe a handful of Jewish lobbyist might have had a hand in getting us into war, but that doesn't mean the entire world is under control of a Jewish puppet master. I'm a very practical guy. How are you guys going to succeed with your mission? No matter which way I look at it it's futile. Once Obama got elected I finally realized just how pointless your mission is. Hence the reason why this is my last argument. You WN have zero power. As I said earlier, whites are becoming more and more accepting of blacks. Youths favored Obama 4 to 1. The Internet is dominated by youths. This video for example has received an amazing 13,784,949 million views: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjXyqcx-mYY Obama is the number one politician in the world according to google. http://www.google.com/trends?q=obama...te=2008&sort=0 And it's not just the American youths that favor Obama. The entire world loves Obama. The only two Nations that preferred Mccain was Israel and Georgia: http://www.gallup.com/poll/111253/Wo...arly-4to1.aspx Go to youtube and watch the millions of videos across the globe celebrate Obama's victory. Just type Obama + [any Nation of your choice] Germany/England/France/Japan etc... and all of them favor Obama over Mccain. Google counts 300 million sites related to Obama. The world doesn't like Obama because he's black. They like him because he has better policies than Mccain. They judged him by the content of his character, not by the color of his skin. I bet you WN think this is a Jewish conspiracy. Maybe the Jews paid those Europeans to celebrate Obama's victory. Maybe they are the ones who created the 6,000 videos of Europeans celebrating Obama's victory. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzrmZuAJbcU 90% of America's youths are tree hugging liberals such as myself. Notice how the IQ of liberal states such as California is much higher than the IQ in the red states (the states that voted for John Mccain and Bush). Also notice how liberals dominate the internet. The ratio of liberal blogs to conservative blogs is 900 to 1. Conservatives aren't smart enough to use the Internet. Something about the baby boomer generation prevents them from being able to use the world wide web. Don Black is truthfully an enigma. Remember earlier when I was talking about how slow stormfront is, and how the WN movement doesn't have a big following. I'm going to have to disown that statement. Maybe if the racist of America one day became smart enough to use the Internet your numbers would be in the millions. Stormfront threads would get hundreds of replies within seconds. But don't worry, the sons and daughters of those racist will eventually find their ways to the Internet. And then they'll become tree hugging liberals. Obama's myspace, facebook, and youtube pages received millions of international views, while Mccain's pages struggled to reach the thousands. The youths of America are truthfully colorblind. Even the liberal websites I've been to that were extremely racist were openly in support of Obama. Most of them stopped what they were doing and voted for Obama. Oh and if you're wondering what liberal website I'm talking about. Let's just say its ranks in the top 10 on the bigboards website. It's a site that receives more post in one day than stormfront receives in a year. Liberals are the modern day philosophers. This is a liberal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQFlStX1XxE&NR=1 This post was very sloppy because my food was getting cold.
Re: Final argument.
If this was a thread about your finale argument you'd be creating walls of text too. I still don't know how race mixing is considered genocide, but I'll respond to all the WN who keep whining about the end of their race. Tell me again how the 900 million whites in this world are going to be dissolved from race mixing? How is this physically possible? You're starting to sound like those paranoid conspiracy theorist. Just because one group is a minority in a country does not mean it's going to get dissolved. South Africa for example, a Nation where blacks are in the majority. Despite how much you WN like to over exaggerate about how those whites are in danger. Those whites are enjoying themselves. If South Africa is such a dangerous black infested country, why don't they return to Europe? The same Europe that is the best continent on the face of the planet according to you WN. Apparently Europe wasn't good enough for them. Maybe because in Europe they don't get cheap labor. The greedy colonist in South Africa payed the Africans chips and peanuts to build them mansions. Then the colonist created segregation laws that made it physically impossible for Africans to live in those mansions. Can you imagine how pissed the Europeans would be if the Asians came to Europe and created segregation laws? South African blacks probably hate the whites more than the African American blacks. But even with such a high bloodthirst to kill whitey the whites of South Africa are doing fine. Otherwise they would have left South Africa years ago. Even though blacks are in the majority, there are still millions of pure blooded whites in South Africa. I'm still waiting for the evil black government to pass a law that will make it legal to kill whitey. I'm also waiting for a giant golden dinosaur to walk up to me one day and hand me a million dollars. Let me give you another example. 8 decades ago 100,000 Japanese migrated to Brazil. That population is now estimated to be 1.2 million strong. Despite being the minority in the country, the Japanese were never dissolved. Let me give you another example, the 3+ million Arabs in America. Why aren't they complaining about a potential genocide of their race? Their population is just as pure as it was when they first migrated here. The only two races in America that should be complaining about race mixing is the Africans and Native Americans. They are the two biggest mixed races in America (largely thanks to the rape-and-sell policy of the 1800s). 60% to 70% of African Americans have European ancestors. As a kid I always wondered why my skin was such a very light shade of brown. Also, the Africans and Native Americans didn't want to be mixed. Native Americans (even till this day) hate Europeans. And African males and females are NOT attracted to Caucasians (or whiteboy as they like to call them). All the black females I know are attracted to thugs, while all the black males I know are attracted to gold diggers. Even till this day I do not know why this is. But getting back to the point. The *only way for one race to be endanger of getting dissolved is if massive forced mixing occurs. Africans were raped in massive numbers. And by rape I don't mean aggressive rape; I guess I should refer to it as massive breeding. Massive breeding was common back in those days. So unless you're actually dumb enough to think a mythical Jew will be able to pass a law stating that it's legal to rape whites, then I don't see how the white race will disappear. But hell, even if someone did do that there are 210+ million Caucasians in the USA alone. If the 30+ million blacks and 20+ million (illegal alien) Mexicans were all to one day decide to mix with whitey. Surprise surprise, whites would still be in the majority. Blacks are only 10% of the population. So subtract 10% from blacks and subtract 10% from the 70% of whites. Hmm, it appears there's still a lot of whites left. See where I'm getting at with this, or do you WN fail at basic equations? There are 1.2 million Europeans living in Japan. Why aren't they complaining about a potential genocide of their race? What I'm trying to say here is, even if one race is in the minority, they don't have to fear getting dissolved. It's their own choice if they want to get dissolved. In the end, the choice will come down to your children. If your great great grandchild decides to elope with an Asian, who the hell are you to decide who the kid should fall in love with? Love, art, and beauty is subjective, remember? Also, who the hell are you to decide where your great great grandchild should live? If you traveled this Earth you'd know just how massive this planet is. It's more than big enough for us to share. Set your goals higher for your great grandchildren. Why should they be forced to stay on two continents. They should be able to live in and lead any country they feel like. This Earth belongs to no one. Why do you think Europeans decided to colonize America and Africa? Obviously, they wanted something more for their children. Japan's Tokyo is one of the most advanced places on this Earth period. I wonder what it'll look like 12,000 years from now. In my ideal world both of our children will be able to choose where they want to live as long as they do not disturb the natives of the land. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q0ubRMw8L8[/youtube] Sucks to be the sap that ends up being your great great grandchild. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laPU0bS8JOc[/youtube] The west needs to learn that there is a new super power on the horizon. Every Asian Nation is getting stronger. If it continues at this rate by the year 2120, China will have the strongest economy followed by Japan and South Korea. Thankfully Japan has become an anti war/pacifist country. Unlike Americans, the modern day Japanese don't care about building barbaric weapons or military. Instead they only focus on self defense. One can only imagine how strong Japan's military would be if they weren't such pacifist. The only white Nation that will be able to compete is ironically America (the Nation with the most minorities). You WN try to blame minorities on your failure to compete with the East yet the Western Nations with the most minorities are the strongest. Brazil holds the title of strongest economy in South America, and Brazil was the Nation that received the second biggest share of slaves during the slave trade. At one point in Brazil, there were more slaves than Europeans. Brazil is also one of the biggest mulatto countries on the planet. More than 50% of Brazil's population can trace their ancestors to Africans, Europeans, and Native Americans. It also became the first oil free Nation on the American continent thanks to the various sugar cane fields. Guess who harvested those sugar cane fields? Maybe Russia could use some multiculturalism to help their economy. You could combine the economy of the two purest white European Nations and their Economy would still be smaller than Japan (an island Nation that is actually smaller than California). Like it or hate it, multiculturalism work$. America needs the 20+ million undocumented illegal Aliens. Real estate by far is the most important thing about our economy. And if you were to get rid of those cheap labor workers you would cripple America's economy. Ever heard of the words equivalent exchange? In exchange for holding the title of strongest economy, America has the highest crime rate and racism. You cant have your cake and eat it too. Europeans have gotten rich by using slaves and colonizing countries. Notice how the peaceful Easterners stayed away from that. While the west waste trillions of dollars on wars, the east saves its money. Colonization and multiculturalism gave the west a free ride into the 21st century but now you're going to have to accept both the good and bad that came with that free ride. Asians are the only race that was able to succeed without the help of other races (or their own kind). Unlike the Europeans, the Japanese don't get along with their neighbors. They discriminate against Chinese and Koreans. It's just amazing how successful Japan is despite the fact that they rarely get along with their Asian neighbors. Hell, if you were to subtract even one Nation from Europe like Germany or Britain, Europeans would still be living in caves. If China, Japan, and Korea, etc... had the same unity that Europe has, they'd probably be colonizing Mars right now. Europeans became successful with the help of the various ancient Arabian, Jewish, and African countries. Europe was in the middle of the known world, trading culture and knowledge with many African and Arab countries such as Egypt. I wonder how successful China would have been had their civilization spawned from the continent of Europe. But there's good news. I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by switching to GEICO. No seriously, being the minority does not mean it's the end of the world. Who cares if China will have the strongest economy and military by the year 2050. The Asians unlike the Europeans and Africans are a peaceful race. I guarantee you they wont be starting wars every 9 years (like some western Nation I know). Who cares if whites will be the minority in America. As I said above, being the minority does not mean your race is going to get dissolved. If the 3.5 Arab Americans choose to mix with other races than that is their choice. Unless someone forces them to mix, they'll continue being pure blooded Arabians. If the 1.2 million Japanese in Brazil decide to mix with other races then that is also their choice. Because at their current rate, those Arab Americans and Japanese Brazilians are in no danger of becoming dissolved. Who cares if one race gets in control of the government? What you WN fail to realize about government is that government is created by the people and for the people. Their only job is to serve us. They monitor our money and protect us from harm. Oh, and since you're not use to being the minority I'll teach you what affirmative action means. The government has always tried to create a good balance of fairness. In democracies, everybody's voice is heard. If one group is in the minority, the government will try to help that minority. It's very easy to beat down a person who is weaker than you. But what is not easy is helping someone who is weaker than you. Instead of beating down people who are weaker than you, you should try to make that person a better person so that both of you will succeed. That is the liberal philosophy. Whites have always, been in the majority, hence the reason why the government ignores you. I kept hearing David Duke whine about how every race but the white race had a group defending its people. Protip: When you're in the majority you don't need a group to defend your people. Flip the coin and put the Jews and blacks as the majority and I guarantee you there would be no such thing as AIPAC or NAACP. I notice how every thread on stormfront there's a WN complaining about the double standards of racism in America. Let me give you example. One WN said at my school blacks called me whiteboy. Can you imagine how fast I'd be labeled a racist if I called one of them blackboys. Yes there is a double standard, but the question is, why is there a double standard? Blacks have only recently received their freedom from whites. Whites out number blacks 10 to 1. To be honest with you, name calling alone never bothered blacks. The words itself does nothing. In my opinion people should be able to say whatever they feel like in our country. But it's the actions of a handful of whites that make the word n*gger much powerful than it actually is. When blacks hear that word, a trigger gets pressed in their head. Immediately they are reminded of the Africans of the 60s who got burned alive by the KKK simply because their skin color was different. So in a sense, the word itself is linked to fear. Fear leads to hate, and hate leads to violence. When blacks say whiteboy or cracker the words mean nothing. Blacks don't have a 250+ year history of discriminating against whites. Though, we do have a 250+ year history of secretly hating whites for oppressing us. You WN like to complain about the high number of black on white rape/crime. Well, blacks are equal opportunist rapist/criminals. They rape and rob from all groups equally. What ever race is in the minority should receive extra protection from the majority. If whites become the minority, Mexicans will start complaining about the double standards that you whites were complaining about. David Duke keeps saying Obama came from a racist church. What did Rev Wright say that was racist? He said America is controlled by rich white people. America IS controlled by rich white people. That'd be like a white person saying that basketball is dominated by tall black people. Basketball *is dominated by tall black people. I certainly wouldn't get offended by that. There are white people who go to his church. He even helped a white couple get married once. Rev Wright was anti American, but not racist. As a matter of fact, Rev Wright was so anti American that he joined the marines. David Duke and the rest of you WN love America so much that you've never even considered joining the army. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremia...litary_service America is the first (modern) multicultural Nation. Out of many, one. Where in the amendment does it say only Europeans can become President? It says, anybody who is born in the USA can run for President. Yes it's true that slavery was legal back in those days. But it was equal opportunity slavery. Anybody could be a slave back in those days. And anybody could have owned a slave. One WN set a link to an article that claimed the first African American slave was owned by an African. To tell you the truth, I have nothing against slavery. I just don't like racist slavery that targets one group. Africans have fought in every American war since America's conception in 1776. They've worked harder than any other race for 200+ years, but now that they've become lazy in the last few decades you want them out? Just to give you a small idea about how hard Africans have worked. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Brazilian#History Italians couldn't last two decades doing the hard work that the African American slaves did for free. But honestly, who really cares about who's in control of the government. If I was to tell you that an Asian would get elected in the year 2012 and by the time he left office America would have a 60 trillion dollar surplus. Would you vote for him? In the end, governments job is to make the Nation's people happy. You WN do NOT represent the feeling of all whites. Most whites in America love their life. And the ones who don't enjoy their lives simply don't give a damn. If whites hated the evil multicultural America as much as you WN, wouldn't stormfront receive more traffic than the average Japanese fetish website? Though I cant tell a lie. I honestly don't know how white culture/tradition will survive if whites become the minority. Culture, unlike race is too unpredictable. Modern day culture is too viral. Gangster rap, for example, is quite popular inside of Russia despite the fact that there's virtually no blacks in Russia: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cvo3YVOVtY[/youtube] But they choose to live that lifestyle. And who died and made you the king of the white race that says they cant do that? If they're happy with themselves then what's the problem? Another example, there are practically no Americans in Japan, yet our pop culture, music, movies, etc... dominates Japan's pop culture. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI3IFNbjhGs[/youtube] In Japan, American rock music actually outsells Japanese rock music. As technology advances, old traditions fade away. The youth of Europe, America, and Asia no longer care about preserving their heritage. Maybe sitcoms, reality TV shows, video games, cell phones, computers, and movies have become our generation's culture. Most European and Asian traditions would be considered weird in our society. Do you WN even know the culture/heritage you're preserving? Tell me what that culture and heritage is, and tell me what purpose does it serve in our MTV poisoned society? History itself doesn't need to be preserved. No one will ever forget history. It's not like one race will one day rewrite the history books. Please don't compare us to the Subhuman Apelings ~ this is an insult of most highest degree. Oprah Winfrey? Don't make me laugh. Desperately tries hiding her nappy head, gobs of makeup detering attention from her split cow eyes, all wrapped up in White clothing. Wow, I'm just shocked and appalled by some of the blatant hatred that is seething from your replies. No matter how honest and civilized I try to be, some of you WN keep resorting to name calling. I've been coming to stormfront for a while now and for the first ever time I'm starting to wonder if the average WN is mentally stable. How can anybody be this angry? Did you even read my post? I was complimenting Caucasians. Dare I say you're behaving like some of my fellow Africans. You need to release some of your pent up hatred. Walk outside of your bunker and go up to your nearest negro/jew/Mexican and scream at the top of your lounges F*uck you! How can anybody hate Oprah. Other then her appearance, she's no different from a white women. Did a black female steal your tricycle when you were a child? I didn't reread my post, so it probably has a lot of errors, so don't be a grammar Nazi. We're too old for that s%#t.
Re: CALGARY
Calgarian, all the way. 88
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In the debate about blacks in sport, I was having this conversation with my friend the other day. He pointed something out that I hadnt personally thought about, but which is so blindingly obvious I couldnt believe I didnt think of it myself. Blacks in 1st world countries like UK or US are selectively bred . Their ancestors were brought over on the basis of physical strength, hardiness, speed etc. The best physical specimens were plucked because they were the ones most likely to survive a long sea journey and would be most useful at their final destination. When they arrived they interbred with other genetically selected blacks for generations to form a kind of superblack. The black athletes and in fact a large part of the black population we see in developed countries are disproportionately large and strong for this reason. In contrast, look at the average african black...he is naturally smaller and weaker than the average white. Now imagine doing the same thing for the WHITE race.....
I can't defend myself because he's black?
Here is my story... This story is actually very common and that makes this even worse. I'm going to high school with only 35% white population so it become quite natural for my classmates to date outside their race. I never even thought about that because I strongly believe in everything my father taught me about politics, race and purity and I'm against of relationships between whites and non-whites. Anyways, this black guy in my school had a crush on me and one time he asked me out. I politely answered no and just walked away. For weeks he was asking me why I rejected him, I told him I simply wasn't interested, but then he asked was it because he's black. I didn't want to lie because I see nothing wrong in liking and dating only my white guys. He got mad. One minute I thought he's going to hit me. Luckily, he didn't. Next day, he was on the street with his black friends and they yelled all kinds of stuff at me in front of some other students. I went to the school principle and he told me, in the nicest way possible, that I'm racist. He didn't even call this guys in his office, he just told me to be more open and understanding of others because this is a free country. I was furious, but things were just getting worse. This guy told everyone he slept with me and now entire school, pupils and teachers, including my father, think I've done something like that. No one believes me and my dad told me I disappointed him in every way possible if I really slept with this guy. And, because he's a WN, he told me if I continue or ever start a relationship with a non-white person I'm dead to him. My principle, of course, did absolutely nothing about this problem. He says I discriminated this black guy and that I should have given him a chance. He also stated that this what they're doing is harmless and no big deal. I'm so alone in this, my friends are liberal and against my beliefs, and nobody wants to help me get rid of this guys. I'm also afraid what might be next because I feel like he's not over with me just yet... Afraid because he and one of his friends followed me yesterday and blocked my way. I pushed him, he grabbed my hand and pulled me. Then one men yelled at him to let me go or he's calling the police. Imagine what would happen if I actually gave this guy a chance? Or what would happen yesterday if this random guy didn't came along? And it's even not unusual. Majority of them, blacks, is acting in this aggressive way, even towards their girlfriends. I've experienced some negative things with my people too, but nothing like this what they are doing. Not ever. I'm confused because everybody looks at me like I'm the negative character in this, I don't know what to do. How to defend myself? How to clear my name? :( P.S. Sorry for all the grammar mistakes, I'm completely stressed out.
Re: I can't defend myself because he's black?
As for the teasing from the Negro: be very careful. Love to a Negro is as much rape as anything and if he is spreading rumors he slept with you then he is planning to rape you, possibly gang rape you with his friends, to teach you that you really do like him and his Mandingo tribe. It's how these idiots think. That's exactly what he told me that day. I will show you that you like me more than you think. You must carry pepper spray and look around at all times. Try to find a group of White friends that will protect you (preferably more guys than girls). Surprisingly, one of my White classmates decided to step in. He told me that he will walk me home if necessary because he knows that these guys can be dangerous. He has similar beliefs as me, and his sister has had bad experiences with this kind of people, too. I'm surprised your father wouldn't believe his own daughter when there is no evidence you are lying? Probably because he knows the situation in my school. But, as it turns out, he trusted me more that he made me believe. He called the principle and told him that he will inform his supervisors and the police about this if he doesn't punish this guy immediately. It seems that this guy and his friend are going to get suspended for 2 weeks. The thing is, I don't think that's going to resolve my problem at all, I think he will just get even more angry with me. I'm just hoping that he will realize that getting suspended or finishing at a police station isn't worth it. But, then again, they don't think in a logical way at all. Who knows what his brain will conclude after he finds out he got suspended. As for mentioning that you rejected him because he is Black: i can see why you may have done it out of frustration, it is so annoying to deal with Blacks and finally letting out the truth is relieving, but this is a no-no of massive proportions. If no one but him heard you say it i would deny it from now on; i do not condone lies but when dirt is thrown at you, may as well throw dirt back - there is nothing immoral about lying to liars. You are absolutely right. I was just naive. I guess this is my learning lesson and it showed me exactly how right I am and how right you guys are about non-Whites, especially Blacks. Nobody else heard me, and I'll do what you said. Thank you all for your advice, I'll take them and I'll keep you informed on this situation. :)
Re: I can't defend myself because he's black?
Blacks and revenge is like Cold and Ice: You cannot seperate the two. In their minds: She 'made' -- yes that is the verb they use, haven't lived until you have heard 'they maded' in a sentence! -- the problem. Negroes are really that dim witted. That's exactly what I'm worried about. And yes, they maded and don't axe me are very popular in my school. :D Anyways, things went okay today. I was in the principle's office first thing in the morning. We had individual talk before he invited him to join us. It was actually quite long so it seems to me he took my father seriously for now. Of course, first the principle apologized, but then tried to turn tables back on me. He said that I will be safe, but shouldn't be that sensitive about this kind of stuff. He also said that this guy had it rough, living with single mom and 4 other siblings. I have hard time feeling sorry for him, many blacks I know are growing up like that. I swear, there's nothing normal about them. And I see no excuse in that. My mom died when I was ten, should I also behave like that? It's so hypocritical. Then the guy came, he just sat there with a blank expression on his face, he didn't say anything the whole time. But then the principle told him to apologize, he refused because in his head he hasn't done anything wrong. The principle sent us both home (me for a day, him for 2 weeks), and it was kind of awkward because we walked together for awhile. He wasn't all that dangerous without his friends but it seems that, after all this trouble, he didn't really got my message. :D So... He invited me for drinks. And then he told me that I could bring my friends or whoever if I'm afraid and that he's being honest. Which may or may not be true, but it doesn't even matter. The other guy got of the hook. His white girlfriend said that I've mistaken identity because he spent the evening with her. Awesome. Oh, and I asked what happens when he comes back to school. Apparently nothing. His mom and my dad can have a conversation about our problem and that's about it. It's expected that from now on the guy will behave, but I doubt it. We'll see.
Re: What specifically bothers you about other races?
Very strange people. Most your responses are paradoxes yet the answer is so clear and simple: some of you appear intelligent yet you fail yourself and the world with you deluded arrogance. No matter how long you intend to fight, you'll always be left to hide in cults and online communities. Eventually you'll fade off into the sunset not with smiles, but gone and forgotten, only in memory as remanant posts on sites like these. No matter what land you claim, or how you will deny this; you didn't create it, and it wasn't left addressed to you, any man or creature. Whatever put us here be that you are religious or not has never and will never give one creature rights over another. The laws we're governed by are man made, here to place control and order regardless of where you are living or who with. You have all the freedom in the world to say what you like, but you will never and should never be trully be able to do as you like. Fear, ignorance, arrogance, supremist and segragative ideals are the root of all evil and the true desease on this planet, the sooner you accept this reality the quicker humanity will the next stage in its evolution. Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime. - For those failing to see the signifance in this old saying or stament above, proceed to research the real grobal, mental and biological effects of isolating yourself, as a race, nation, community, family and individual because that's where your evolution, individuality and survival stops. Completely. Deny if you will but the fact is, in the end there will be only one race, mixed and in all it's genetic and mental superiority to you and I carry the will of all it's past generations, in that everyone will be equal still governed by law and order.
Re: What specifically bothers you about other races?
:rolleyes: Oh you're one of those sorts. The European and to an extent the East Asian are the peak of Humanity, Humans are unique because of their intelligence and both those races are the most intelligent on average as proven by hundreds if nor thousands of studies over the last century. By mixing with other races (including miscegenation between White and East Asian) the Human species devolves. The next stage in this case will be the previous stage. Your Utopia that you dream of will be a third world cesspit ruled over by a tiny elite, equality will be non-existent. I'm not of any particulor sort, nor am I dreaming of whatever utopia you're hoping is pure fantasy. I'm just stating fact you seem to be in denial about and that's the beauty in this world we've created; in all your beliefs and values you can still find a place to speak your mind with those alike no matter what that is. And devolution? You do understand the biggest cause of this is inbreeding right? Devolution is the statutory granting of powers from the central government of a sovereign state to government at a subnational level, such as a regional, local, or state level. Devolution can be mainly financial, e.g. giving areas a budget which was formerly administered by central government. However, the power to make legislation relevant to the area may also be granted. Maybe you meant de-evolution, a theory that man and all creatures are evolving backward, often supported mostly by biblical literalists who view Adam and Eve as perfect beings to which I fail to understand where your logic comes from - you don't seem religious or carry the most important value from the particular holy book. You do understand don't you that farmers cross-breed live-stock for a reason, correct? As people do with dogs, cats, and many other species of animal do amongst themselves selectively. In case you don't it's in order to breed a superior species as many of these species have traits only carried in thier chromosomes, where mixing them, in turn produces quite literally, the best of both worlds. Don't misunderstand, I'm not here to simply bash your on views, I can understand your cause for simply wanting to be separated, but its not logical or benificial to your survival in any scientific sense. The funniest thing however is, despite what you're saying, you can all still sit behind a computer and have a sensible social debate with someone without even knowing their ethnic origin. Irony, the human mind is a beautiful thing. Does anyone know of Freudian slips?