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http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/1805527/question-of-loropetalums | Question of Loropetalums Comments ( 12 ) carolinabluesky Well , good news - I ca n ' t say that a hungry deer would n ' t eat them but they do n ' t prefer them . I ' ve had several for about five years now and so far , so good . Mine are in partial shade in an area where deer have eaten other plants ( Indian hawthorne , sweet potato vines , etc . ) and no damage . Like Save April 29 , 2009 spazzycat_1 My deer have never touched the Loropetalums and I have several planted in different places around the garden , but I know of other gardeners who have experienced problems with deer browsing them . Like Save April 29 , 2009 deirdre_2007 I just planted about 6 of them this Spring . We have a ton of deer here and so far nothing . It ' s only been 10 days , but so far so good . I ' ll let you know if anything changes . DYH My deer herd picks them clean in winter and leaves them alone in summer - - meaning that I do n ' t get spring blooms unless I fence them off with a 32 " high edging fence in winter through spring . I do get blooms in the fall because they do n ' t eat them in summer . I moved one of my two inside the cottage garden fence last September because I was tired of not having a pretty loropetalum in spring . The other one is fine and blooming right now because I did protect it with the temporary fence over the winter and it is still behind that edging . So , this is the first time since they were planted in 2005 that I have blooms on my loropetalum ( and leaves for that matter ) . I wrote up a story about plants that are on " deer resistant lists " that have n ' t been deer resistant with my local herd . Cameron Here is a link that might be useful : Deer resistant or not jimtnc Thanks . Did y ' all plant any specific variety , or just loro ' s in general ? I wound up with 3 different varieties with 3 different sun / shade requirements , and I ' m running our of room for the shade types . Will they not do well if they are in full sun ? One of the instruction cards say NO pm sun , which sounded pretty clear to me , but sometimes those cards are printed for all varieties of shrubs . April 30 , 2009 spazzycat_1 In my experience , the Loropetalums take anything from full sun to part shade . In the shade , the purple - foliage ones are not as purple . April 30 , 2009 jimtnc Okay , thanks spazzy . Bumblebeez SC Zone 7 I have some in bright shade and they hardly grow at all . However with the ones in sun , I would n ' t mind some deer browsing every 6 weeks ! zigzag I have loropetulums in three locations around my yard . Front yard ( where the deer and buffalo roam ) is in brutal sun , never any deer damage - this border gets huge and takes a hard whacking back every fall with grace . Back sideyard , enclosed , loropetulum border is in dappled sun , at best - deer have yet to jump the fence , and this border group takes some yearly trimming , but is n ' t as exuberant or high maintenance as the front yard group . Finally I have one specimen plant atop a timber retaining wall backed by a stockade fence . This loropetulum is cresting 10 ' tall now ( I ' ve let it go wild ) and while in a direct South sun , I think the fence shields it ' s back ( ? ) . So , I from my view , loropetulums pretty much take whatever you can dish out . BTW . . . . . this is the first year in six or seven that NONE of my loropetulums have bloomed , lots of pretty new red leaves , but nothing flowery other than a little fringe - flower or three here and there . But , there ' s a hedge of them nearby and they ' ve been flowerless too . Must be their ' rest ' year . DYH The one that I moved is now in full sun and is blooming and is retaining the dark foliage . The older one is in sun until early afternoon and it ' s fine and blooming . carolinagardendawg Zigzag . . .interesting . . .I ' ve got a Zhuzhou Fuschia ' cultivar that did n ' t really bloom this year . There were a few blooms here and there , but it was n ' t a profuse bloomer like in years past . Glad to know some others held back a little this year as well . And as far as sun vs . shade . . .loropetalums will take about anything you give ' em EXCEPT high pH or dry soils . I ' ve also found them generally to underachieve in full shade , but they still make nice plants . Mike Dirr ' s comment - " . . .once established displays a tenacity just short of Ilex cornuta . " I believe that statement ! Great input folks . Thanks so much . That ' s what I was hoping to hear . I ' ve got a few onther spots I ' d like to put them . May 1 , 2009 Sign Up to Comment | [
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http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/1810325/whats-peeling-the-meyer-lemons | Citrus what ' s peeling the meyer lemons ? louise_sfbay February 26 , 2006 Hello All My BF has a meyer lemon tree with a strange problem . Something seems to be eating the peels only off his meyer lemons . In the last few days a half dozen or more lemons have been denuded of the skins . They are still hanging on the tree and the sections are completely visible and whole , but they have no peel . The flesh appears almost entirely untouched . I assume some animal pest is doing this especially since the damaged ones are close to the deck railing , an easy reach or climb for some critter He is in the San Francisco Bay Area , El Cerrito for those who know the area . Thanks . Email Save Comment 57 Like 2 Comments ( 57 ) See 7 more comments laurie_in_sf I have no clue . Maybe it ' s just a roof rat with a fancy name . I ' m just passing along what a friend told me . I was hoping to find out more here . Like Save March 19 , 2006 pstemwedel I ' ve noticed this as well lately . It does seem localized to the larger ( older ? ) fruit higher on the tree . Perhaps the recent cold snap has had something to do with it ? March 20 , 2006 laurie_in_sf With mine it ' s also the higher fruit , which seems different than with other people only noticing it lower down . Maybe ours is a bat or bird and the others have something else ? April 23 , 2006 nkt38238 Well , this question could not have arrived at better time ( for me at least ) , I just spotted this same phenomena with my Meyer lemon last week . I live in bay area , N . CA . I saw exact symptom on one of my ripe meyer lemon fruits , but it was not hanging on tree . It dropped on the ground , but had only 40 % peel bitten off . I ' ve never seen that with my other citrus fruits like mature Navel Orange . I consider following possibilities since I ' ve spotted these animals in my yard : ( in the order of probability ) + Rat ( this is what I suspect culprit is ) + Squirrel + Snails + Racoon + Cat I am not sure that it ' s snails in my case since as far as I know there are no snails in the area where Meyer Lemon is located . btw , I find META based product ( Corry ' s ) highly effective on snails and it ' s usable around veggies and fruit plants . I think it ' s biodegrable . You may purchase it at Costco or at hardware stores . April 23 , 2006 gardner_dragon Tree rats and possums both eat the peels of citrus fruits . If the peel is sweet they will leave the fruit . Sometimes they will eat all the flesh and leave the peel . biscuit22 I am in San Francisco and am having the same problem with my Meyer lemon tree - something is eating the rind off and leaving the inner fruit . They are working on the middle part of the tree . My boyfriend suspects an escaped monkey . We will look for snails and maybe set rat traps . Thanks February 8 , 2007 bencelest Snails were the culprit who denuded the fruits of my citrus . But it took me over a week to find them and put them to rest . You really have to look for them because they are experts in hide and seek . They had me puzzled for over 6 months . Snails were the last thing on my mind . February 9 , 2007 bencelest In an hour ' s time snails can travel a long distance . So at night after 2 hours after the sun went down , I ' harvested ' snails in my bacyard every 20 minutes . After 4 nights I gathered well over 250 snails of different sizes . After that I did not see any more problem . February 14 , 2007 nkt38238 Hi , I ' m returning to gardenweb forums after disappearing for almost an year . Good to see that bencelest is still around to help . I wonder if rickjames and mrtexas are still around . I have not looked around in forums messages in detail yet . In any case , in my case , it turned out to be rat . Since last year , we have had couple of cats hanging around in neighborhood and lemon peel problem has disappeared along with rats . February 24 , 2007 rickjames ' Sup Nkt . Welcome back : ) So integrated pest management does work . Whaddya know . February 26 , 2007 thanks , rickjames . I am finding that my gardening urges surge in late winter / spring and puts me in mood to get / plant new cirtus varieties . However , as year progresses , work ( stress in silicon valley ) , social life ( young kids ) seem to come out much higher in the grand schema of things / priorities . Will see how long can I keep in touch with these forums as year progresses . > So integrated pest management does work . Whaddya know . yeah ! and it being free is ever better ! February 27 , 2007 Nkt : Yes , I am here just on and off depending how busy I am with my work . It ' s fun to be here . February 27 , 2007 renfield my young tree has been denuded of leaves , fruit and young shoots . I suspect racoon or rat , possibly cat . I have n ' t found any partially eaten fruit . What ' s your guess . I ' m right in SF . ren March 10 , 2007 jdnospam Folks , I ' m in Berkeley and have been dealing with this for the last 3 years , starting usually in May and lasting until December - sh . I ' ve a very mature myer lemon tree that is regularly traumatized by a pest that peels the fruits . You can see parts of the rind on the ground and completely deunuded or partially peeled fruits on the tree . I think it is a rat - but are n ' t they supposed to eat , " hollow out " the frut , too ? It is not snails , there are copper bands around the tree . Does anyone have suggestions for getting rid of the rat , or what kind of rat ? I ' ve noticed in the last few days droppings - fairly " small " , black and about 1 / 4 an inch long under where my peeled fruit is . Are there mice that peel fruit ? ? - JD June 4 , 2007 dadunkley_att_net Happening to me as well . Totally peeled and left , others peeled with a bit eaten . Now , tiny little pieces of peels covering area next to tree . Left a peeled one as bait on sidewalk by tree and returning 4 hours later in evening , it had disappeared ! Rats are supposed to hollow out the fruit . Possums ? Help . . . . . January 1 , 2011 Teamtasia_aol_com We have a prolific Meyer Lemon tree and for the past 3 years a creature is enjoying the rind of the lemon leaving the lemon beautifully peeled hanging on the tree . I suspect it to be a fruit bat . Any other thoughts ? Rindless in LA ! March 12 , 2011 japonismeblog_gmail_com oh this is so funny to find some years later ! i just posted a photo : the thing that i ca n ' t imagine any of the suggested animals having the ability to leave the bits of peel all neatly like that . Here is a link that might be useful : the mystery peeler March 15 , 2011 kirk_rodgers_ymail_com I live on the San Mateo coast . Whatever it is , is eating not only the rind but now is stripping the bark off . Only effected area is about head high on a otherwise healthy and mature tree . I tied a rat trap in the tree at the site . . . .will see if I caught anything tomorrow April 1 , 2011 kathinsacto It ' s the raccoons peeling the lemons and leaving all the meat on the ground ! ! ! Saw it last night with my own eyes lol 1 Like June 9 , 2011 haenftling_comcast_net I read an article in the SF Chronicle by The bugman that rats eat the rind of the lemon and the inside of the ornge . I do n ' t recall if he had a solution to this problem . I ' ve had a Meyer lemon for many years and this is the first year they started eating my lemons . They also ate the inside of the few oranges I have on a rather small imature orange tree . June 13 , 2011 ocda I noticed some fruits since last week in my lemon tree fully peeled and some partially but they are still hanging on the tree . Curiously nothing like tht in my other lemon tree with fruits having a much thicker rind . My son ' s room window is not too far from the tree and he never noticed flapping wings at night nearby the tree . There were two fruits that are too high on very slender branch tht a rat fruit has to be really small so as to stay up there . Whatever , much investigation to June 21 , 2011 pistonkeeper_yahoo_com This is funny , I have been looking all over the web and this is the most complete listing I have found so far . The Lemons on my tree are always left on the tree . It takes two days for the rind to be completely removed . Looking closely it is eating only the white part and the outer yellow part is drying out rolling back as the inner flesh is consumed . I have never caught anything in the tree but snails and I have never caught any near the fruit . I guess it is possible PS : On my neighbors tree it is getting the Green fruit also . June 25 , 2011 Chris Gulden I am having a similar problem with our orange tree . We live in the East Bay area ( antioch ) , and " something " has been eating part of the peel , and the entire inside of the unripe fruit , leaving a hollowed shell of peel hanging from the tree . We have seen opposums , squirrels , tree rats and racoons in the area , but assumed our dogs were keeping them at bay . I will say that snails will definitely NOT be the culprit ( besides , would n ' t the acid kill January 14 , 2012 LauraQ95076 I have noticed since the beginning of August that something has been peeling the skin off my Meyer lemons . I ' ve found the lemon peels on the ground with distinct teeth marks and on the top of the fence I ' m finding vermin droppings where the critters are using the fence to hop onto the lemon tree , but has anyone had any success getting rid of the pests ? Is this an ongoing problem ? Our neighbors have seen a spike in mice ( maybe because our surrounding neighbors have so much ivy ? ) and August 12 , 2012 hoosierquilt USDA 10A Sunset 23 Vista CA Laura , post photos of the damage . You do n ' t say where you live , so it ' s hard for us to help you identify the culprits . You can add that info in your GardenWeb Zone field ( see mine ) . If you ' re in California , most like it is Roof ( Citrus ) rats after moisture and food . Could also be snail damage if the peel damage is more round . Could be birds also , if the damage is roundish and ragged , as some birds apparently like to Patty S . Here is a link that might be useful : UC Davis IPM : Rats August 13 , 2012 kiwichristel I live in New Zealand and the same is happening to our lemons , but only on one bush . We have two lemon bushes , one is in the garden at the back and one is in front of our house . The one in front of the house might not be a Meyer lemon bush and the lemons on that bush are fine , nothing is eating the skin . October 17 , 2013 hoosierquilt USDA 10A Sunset 23 Vista CA Rats are notorious for eating the peels of sour fruits ( lemons , limes , citrons ) , and they ' ll do just the opposite for sweet citrus - leave you a hollowed out fruit with just the skin hanging . The peel of lemons , limes , citrons are sweeter than the pulp , so the clever rat has learned to eat just the peels of those varieties , whilst devouring the sweet pulp of sweet citrus cultivars . Clever buggers . They ' ll be the last living animal on the planet . Along with cockroaches , Patty S . October 17 , 2013 kiwichristel If it was rats , why do n ' t they eat the fresh lemon skins on our compost heap ? Anyway , we have lots of cats in the area and I have NEVER seen a rat though I now they are nocturnal . Kiwichristel Well , because they probably have n ' t discovered them , yet . Why one tree will be affected , and the tree next to it , not , again , no explanation for that . It may also be a bird , as some birds like to use the oils of citrus to repel parasites , and they ' ll peck the skin to get to the oils ( although what I see in your photo looks more to me like bite marks from a rodent , due to the sharp cuts through the skin ) . So Hi Patty First of all , thanks for your thoughts on the lemon peel eating whatsits . There are no squirrels in NZ but we have possums . What intriges me as well is . There is a cluster of lemons touching the ground . I have n ' t picked them yet as a ) I observe them and b ) they are not quite ready for picking yet . These Lemons have not been touched . I thought being so near to the ground , snails , mice , possums , anything that likes lemon peel would go for those Christel Hi Patty First of all , thanks for your thoughts on the lemon peel eating whatsits . There are no squirrels in NZ but we have possums . What intriges me as well is . There is a cluster of lemons touching the ground . I have n ' t picked them yet as a ) I observe them and b ) they are not quite ready for picking yet . These Lemons have not been touched . I thought being so near to the ground , snails , mice , possums , anything that likes lemon peel would go for those Christel { { ! gwi } } This is the photo not zoomed johnmerr Think birds . . . many things like the Meyer lemon peel because it is not bitter . When we sent Meyers to the Fruit Logistica show in Berlin , people were walking around sucking on the peels . Could be birds . Not snails , as the make more round , rasped holes . Could be earwigs as well . Have you checked with your local ag agent in your area to see what they might suspect ? Or , your local university ? My husband just said : " Who ' s worried ? you ' re not gonna spray it or do anything so just put up with it ! " MEN ! But he is right . I wo n ' t treat it with any chemicals and the lemons are edible . I was curious what ' s taking the coat off my lemon ? : ) I will ask at my local nursery though . Thanks very much for your thought Patty and John . October 18 , 2013 Christel , you can always try to cover your fruit as well , to see if it is an animal ( who most likely will try to eat or peck through the cover ) , or insect ( which will not ) . Try putting a little plastic baggy around a fruit , secure with a twist tie and see what happens . October 18 , 2013 serge94501 Most likely roof rats . Had a house in Berkeley and started seeing this on my Meyer lemon trees . Found a rat and dispatched it . Peel - eating stopped . August 6 , 2014 Steven York Who knew so many others have had the same issue with their lemons . I ' ve had the tree for about 9 years and this is the first time I ' ve ever seen this . My friends thought it was a prank but most people I know are to busy to peel and leave the lemons on the tree . I thought maybe birds , now I ' m thinking maybe rat or similar . Interesting - - I blame climate change . March 11 , 2015 last modified : March 11 , 2015 fedefish Observed this for the first time on one of my meyer lemon trees . I ' m in Oakland , CA . I noticed the perfectly peeled fruits on the ground first and inspected further and saw partially peeled fruits still on the tree . Suspect the compromised fruits dropped after being totally peeled . Seems to have happened in the span of a few days . Have had these trees for years and this is the first time ever . August 20 , 2015 johnmerr It is almost certainly tree rats , or roof rats ; and they dearly love the peel of the Meyer lemon , because it is not bitter like other lemons . I occasionally encounter this in some of my garden Meyers ; and I just put out rat bait , and the problem disappears . August 21 , 2015 chrisround33 I am in Glendora , CA . It ' s been for 4 - 5 months I have noticed hollowed out orange peal ( looks like an empty ball ) under my orange tree . Today I saw a hollowed out orange hanging , and the other one was eaten to one / fourth , also still hanging on the tree . The oranges now are big but still green . The juice is tasty , not too sweet . Thank you , everybody , community , for all advice . I will put some rat baits on my orange tree . My lemon tree does not have this problem . October 21 , 2015 David Menegus Same problem with the rind being completely removed from the lemons . Set 4 rat traps around the area , no success . Have not seen any rat droppings either . Is there another animal that might be responsible . Live in Pleasant Hill , ty for a response . May 31 , 2016 My vote is tree rats / roof rats . . . same animal . Go out at night with a big light ; and you just might catch them at work . 1 Like May 31 , 2016 evestew1 For the first time in 10 years we are experiencing perfectly peeled fruits left hanging on our mature lemon trees . If rats , how to get of them ? We love in Oakland CA . June 11 , 2017 pip313 Poison , traps , cats , BB gun June 11 , 2017 last modified : tlbean2004 Does anyone have pictures of the neatly pealed fruit left on the tree ? June 12 , 2017 George Over the last couple years I ' ve had both the completely denuded and partially hollowed out Meyer lemons . It usually happens to the outermost fruit . I find that odd , as that would leave the culprits highly exposed to predators . The ones nearest the trunk are relatively untouched . Again , it seems odd that the easiest fruit to reach is bypassed . Here is a photo I took yesterday of the partially hollowed fruit . November 10 , 2017 November 10 , 2017 Matt Roof rats is best guess . wendy_bill80 Two photos of damage . Do n ' t know what to conclude , but the neighbour ' s dogs are curious , so it wo n ' t be snails . Twigs too small for possums . No other animal predators here except for small rodents . This is a large NZ Meyer which has been damaged over some weeks , also for the very first time . You can see many new blossoms as it is late spring . Lots completely denuded and then they drop . Too many branches and foliage to hide in , so pruning November 23 , 2017 It ' s tree rats or roof rats ( same ) . They eat the outer fruits because they are the most ripe ( sweetest ) When I see that I put out rat poison and it stops . They like Meyer lemons , mandarins , and oranges because the peel is not bitter and contains lots of oils . November 23 , 2017 Sign Up to Comment | [
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http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/1912322/has-anyone-grown-a-ylang-ylang-plant-from-seed | Fragrant Plants Has anyone grown a Ylang Ylang plant from seed ? angelsmell September 20 , 2004 I just purchased some Ylang Ylang seeds and wanted to know other experience you may have had with growing this plant from seed . How is the smell of the flower ? Does it bloom for many months ? Email Save Comment 38 Like 1 Comments ( 38 ) joanmary_z10 Yes , I have grown quite a few of the trees . I ' m in zone 10 as well . I use a large plastic liner ( 10 gallons ) filled with potting soil , tamped down . Moisten the soil . Let it drain . Very carefully , I place the seeds on top of the soil equidistant , circling the outside , making about 3 circles of seeds in the pot . With my finger , I gently poke each seed into the soil to about one eighth of an inch deep . Then cover the top with a sprinkling of soil . Press down gently to hold the seeds in place . Place a label in the pot with the name of the seeds , where they came from and THE DATE PLANTED . ( Make sure you use a pencil on the plant label , as any ink will ALWAYS fade due to uva rays ! Sometimes one is a little forgetful when one has lots of things going on in the garden , and this serves as a good reminder ) I leave the pot under shrubs against a west fence - filtered , bright light - and water it when I do the normal garden watering . It takes a while before you ' ll see any sprouting , but do n ' t give up . I leave the plants in the pot till they are about 6 " high before transplanting them . Move to individual pots and make sure you keep them well watered . They gradually move them to full sunlight . I transfer them to the garden when they are about a foot + high . Do not let them dry out . Good luck . The fragrance is heavenly ! I have 5 growing in the garden - first one bought and the others from seed . Have given a lot away to the neighbourhood so one day we will be a ' Fragrant Area ' ! ! 1 Like Save September 21 , 2004 angelsmell How long does it take before you get flowers ? How did you plants do through the hurricane ? Like September 21 , 2004 PatienceDonkey Joanmary - do you scarify or soak the seeds at all ? Thanks Lilly joanmary_z10 Well , I have given a lot of seedlings away as exchanges , so I can just comment on the ones I have in the garden . The ones I have kept are about 2 - 3 ' tall . That ' s about 1.5 years growth . ( did not keep records on these ) I ' d say I have a another good year to wait before I have any flowers , judging by the thickness of the little trunk . The one thats flowering in abundance I bought with a trunk about 3 / 4 " wide No I dont scarify or soak the seeds , but it may be a good idea to try a few . My soil is very warm , and between the torrential summer rains and my iffy watering habits , the soil does stay fairly moist . Winter here is incredibly dry , and I tend to rely on my Melnor Timers throughout the garden . I have a new batch of seeds which I ' m planting right now . I ' ll make sure I add the date of planting , and keep a record . Re these incredibly horrible hurricanes : Our part of Florida ( south east ) have been so fortunate . The devastation to the parts hit , makes one eternally grateful and so incredibly sorry for those not as fortunate . My Carambola tree was split halfway down the trunk and I have learnt that heliconias are not worth planting as they look like hell ! In fact , today the last of the huge circle of H ' s has just gone into the garbage , many moans later from the fellow who dug the roots out ! ! Felled palms and broken branches , and a roof or two being blown off were the worst for us . So we are thanking our lucky stars . We keep our hurricane internet sites handy though ! Wish the H . season was over . 1 Like September 22 , 2004 PatienceDonkey Joanmary - do the seeds need to be fresh ? How fresh is fresh lol ? I have a few seeds that are at least a year old . Lilly September 23 , 2004 I really dont know how fresh they have to be to keep viable . When I do a ylang ylang seed exchange , I always put the date on the exchange page , so people can see how fresh my seeds are . Whatever seeds are not taken in about a week , I plant , without wasting any time . I have had pretty good luck with this . Try planting them as above and hope for the best . What do you have to lose , right ? Dont forget = dont EVER let them dry out in your seed bed ! September 24 , 2004 ok thanks ! I went ahead and planted them like you described , and I will wait to see what happens lol . I did soak them overnight , hope that will help them . Thanks a lot Joanmary September 24 , 2004 You are welcome . longriver I never have a Ylang Ylang . I hope to buy or to exchange to have a few seeds to germinate . I do develop about 150 to 200 new camellia seedlings very year . Some of my this year ' s seeds are germinating now . So I have some and different experiences in germinating of seeds . Let me outline a simple and fun method I developed last year for germination of seed in my home . 1 . Go to PetsMart to get a very large ( But it cane be lifted by one person ) tropical fish tank unit and a fish water heater 2 . Buy a long and narrow glass jug . 3 . Buy the best potting soil mix and the mix it with extra 30 % of coarse sand and perlite . 4 . Find a few about 1 / 2 Gal aquare plastic pots with good drain holes . and buy proper size coated racks ( can be two in one tank ) . 5 . I put moist soil mix in a nice transparent poly bag and heat it hot in microwave . 6 . The narrow jar is filled with water and submerge the water heater . Adjust proper setting . The tank space is about 70 to 72 degrees F . Use foil to cove the jar tightly to prevent evaporation . Once the set up is done , you can enjoy the tiny green house in the middle of harsh Winter . The light over the tank has the wavelength to help young seedling to grow . I will be in LA area next week , If any one can help me to point out where and which nursery to visit . Thanks . October 1 , 2004 karinz21 Longriver , what a great idea ! I have an ylang - ylang that is now about 8 or 10 feet tall , but will never bloom I fear . It ' s too dry in Southern California . Thee are many interesting nurseries in LA area , including San Gabriel Nursery , Mimosa in East Los Angeles , and Burkart ' s in Pasadena . October 1 , 2004 HI Longriver , your concept sounds really good , can you take a picture of your set up so I can fully understand your directions ? Would you use this say concept even in the summer ? So do you put the soil right in the aquarium ? Does it drain okay ? I guess I ' m a little confused . How long do you leave you seedlings in the terrarium ? If your heading to Orange county you should visit Roger ' s gardens . . . . . . it ' s very impressive it overlooks the They always have it decorated so beautiful for every season . you can look up their website www . rogersgardens . com Clare_CA Karin21 , the regular Cananga odorata gets to be a large tree and has to reach a certain level of maturity before it will bloom , but I believe that they do bloom here in Southern California . There are some which are street trees in Long Beach . My dwarf Cananga is blooming now . October 2 , 2004 longriver AngelSmell : I have a picture of last year ' s .The potting mix was in larger plastic containers with cut drain holes . My picture format is too large for posting . Even Clare showed me how easy it was . I just have not yet to handle a trial . This year I put my potting mix in about 5 " x5 " plastic pot . One tank holds 9 containers and one space for tall water jar . If I have time next week , I will take a picture . If you have any email address , I may send you both pictures later . I have been harvesting my camellia seeds now as the seed pods showing readiness . To make the story short , In early April , I will move my young seedlings , about 2 to 4 inches , out to my green house . It is very important first to harden the young plants slowly and gardually . It may be possible to germinating veg or other seeds . This is a basic idea . If you want to try it , you may need to modify the set up to fit your own condition . I plan to put my one gal grafts of M alba in the Summer months in the tanks compared that of in my passive green house . My area is very cool in the evening ( even in the Summer time ) which is not good for grafting of M . alba . I do research for fun . October 3 , 2004 Longriver : Thank You so much for taking the time to explain again , I think I uderstand but would still like to see a picture . I would like to do your idea on a smaller version , I wish I had a bigger yard to plant tons of seedlings but I do n ' t . Someday Maybe . I do have some Brugmansia seeds that I would like to start in he aquarium / terrarium that would be fun . I plan on setting it up possibly today . I just want to do rocks on the bottom covered with soil , I also would like to put in miniture plants like the gerber daisy and others that are sold at Mainly seconds , I would like to make a cottage type terrarium . have growing lights ? October 3 , 2004 karinz21 Clare , I did n ' t even know there was such a thing as dwarf cananga . Did you get it mail order ? I ' m glad to hear that someday I may actually get a flower . I will say that my tree looks much healthier this year than last . The leaves are deep green and glossy ; it ' s growing out of its awkward gawky stage . October 4 , 2004 Clare_CA Hi Karen , there are two dwarf Canangas that I know of : Cananga odorata var . fruticosa and Desmos Chinensis . I got my C . odorata var . fruticosa at Natural Selections , and my Desmos Chinensis from Gardino ' s . Here ' s mine : { { gwi : 808467 } } Here is a link that might be useful : Natural Selections Exotics October 4 , 2004 Clare , that ' s beautiful ! October 5 , 2004 Hi Clare : Your Ylang Ylang is beautiful . . . . is the smell strong & pretty ? What is your favorite smelling plant ? What city do you live in CAlif ? October 5 , 2004 Hi Karin and AngelSmell , thanks for the compliments . The truth is that I can detect no fragrance from the flowers at all . It may be that it is just not hot and humid enough right now . The whole plant has an all over musky smell though and is pretty to look at anyway . AngelSmell , it is too hard to pick a favorite , I ' m afraid . I can give you my top favorites right now ( in no particular order ) : Michelia alba Michelia figo Brunfelsia jamaicensis Brugmansia Datura Gardenia Tuberose Plumeria Bouvardia longiflora Aglaia odorata Osmanthus fragrans Telosma cordata Passiflora belotti Passiflora alata " Ruby Glow " Clare : Where is Gardino ' s Nursery ? Any web page or Phone No . I just came home from LA . I went to San Gabriel N . They did not have the plant . The nurseryman told me that most LA areas were not ideal for growing Ylan Ylant , not hot enough and not humid enough . However I think Florida is better for growing YY . I still want to try one like yours in my green house later . Well I was not empty handed . I got two Aglaia speciosa home . October 6 , 2004 Brugmansia Orange blossom Sweet Pea Michelia Alba tuberrose heliatrope Stock Gardenia Night blooming jasmine Star jasmine roses nasturtium Star Gazers I never smelled datura or michelia Figo . . . I hope to soon since I just bought a figo 2 weeks ago . I called Green Thumb and they have 5 gallon Alba for $ 99 . . . said it ' s about 6 ft tall in the ground . I have to go all the way to lake forest to get it . . . Oh Well . I have to make room for it , I want to get rid of my large plumeria to make room for the Michelia Alba . . . do n October 6 , 2004 AngelSmell , which plumeria do you have ? Is it a named variety ? Where are you located ? I ' m in Camarillo , which is in Ventura County . Temple Garden Center in El Monte has three - gallon blooming M . x albas for $ 30 to $ 40 , and sometimes they have them on sale for $ 20 - $ 25 . Longriver , Gardino ' s web site is linked below : Here is a link that might be useful : Gardino ' s Nursery October 7 , 2004 The plumeria is whit with yellow center probably the common one . It ' s beautiful but too wide for my patio it ' s about 5 ft wide and very healthy . So your in Camarillo , it gets Hot out there , I go by there on my way to Santa Maria where My best friend lives , I live in Placentia , I work down the street from the Green Mart , went there at lunch . . . . how tall are the $ 30 - 40 M . Alba ' s . The one I got today is real nice it has about 10 buds on it . I got the Aglaia Odorata there also . I ' m getting real bad at buying the plants . I am giving away 2 very large boston ferns to make room for my 2 new plants that smell pretty . Oh well you only live once . . . . I like to spoil myself . October 7 , 2004 Thanks for your kind offer , AngelSmell , but I actually have seven Celadine ' s right now . You could give away or sell the parent plant and keep a cutting or two for yourself and start over . The cuttings root easily . You should check with GreenMart , since they are so close to you , to see if they would buy your plumeria from you or perhaps arrange a trade with them . It actually stays pretty cool in the summer here because we ' re only about 10 miles from the beach . I used to live in Buellton - - now , it got hot there , 110 in the summer all the time . It only gets into the 90 ' s here in the summertime . I used to visit Santa Maria all the time and go to Costco up there . The Michelia x albas at Temple , which sell for $ 30 to $ 40 , are about two to three feet tall . They have taller ones in larger containers which sell for more money . I got mine from there , and two years later , it is around six feet tall . I bought plants all last year and the year before , and now I ' m finding it is way too crowded here and I have way too much to take care of ! Still , I fall in love with new fragrant plants all the time . I just got an India Carnation on E - bay that just arrived , it looked pretty interesting , I need to go home and plant that tonight . Are you familiar with this plant ? It looks like a tll Gardenia plant . . . . The plant that is commonly called Carnation of India is Tabernaemontana divaricata . I have it and love it . The flowers are fragrant only at certain times of the day and only under certain conditions , and then only certain ones are and the other are n ' t ! Here ' s mine : { { gwi : 808468 } } Carnation of India Clare : Never heard of this plant . Is it widely available ? October 8 , 2004 Clare : Never heard of this plant . Is it widely available ? October 8 , 2004 Karin , yes , I think so . I got mine at Green Thumb Intl . , which is the same as Green Arrow , if you have one near you . Here ' s their web site below : SuperGarden pilotkh4 Hello Angelsmell , I ' m reading all these posts with great interest . Cananga is a native here in northern Australia but I ca n ' t seem to find var . fruticosa anywhere but I ' m not going to stop trying ; ) . Perhaps I can shed some light from my experience . I tried for ages with seed from exchanges , clubs , trades etc . I was never able to get them to germinate . Tried scarifying , acid treatment , giberrelic acid , even tried feeding some to the chooks ( sorry , chickens ) to see if they would germinate in the droppings . No good . Finally got on to the bloke who is the head of the seed collection dept . for Queensland parks and wildlife . Turns out that seed is only viable for a very We had a cyclone ( hurricane ) through here about a year ago , it was preceded by three or four weeks of torrential rain which softened the ground around the tree ' s roots . The canangas were leaning over until they touched the ground in the wind . One was over the washing line so I tied it up using two strong ropes . This tree now grows extremely crooked while the ones I did n ' t tie up in the cyclone are straight as arrows . I keep meaning to cut the top 10 or 12 I hope this helps a bit , we are pretty troical here and I do n ' t know what your climate is like . Regards , Brendon March 1 , 2005 will2358 Hi I just purchased var . fruticosa ( dwarf Ylang Ylang ) from one of the internet sites . I ' m afraid I can not post there Url , but they have 2 international sites . If you would like the URL email me . Cindy March 3 , 2005 Pilotkh4 : My seeds never grew , my Ylang Ylang plant that I ordered last year lost all of it ' s leaves and is just sitting in a pot , it ' s still greeen though . I thought I saw some very small shoots coming out of one of the branches so maybe it will get it ' s leaves back when it starts getting warmer here in So calif , it ' s suppose to get warmer next week , we have had so much rain since November it ' s unreal . So maybe it will March 4 , 2005 Noubikko Please help me where to buy ylang ylang seed . thank you . June 20 , 2005 My Ylang Ylang is now growing new leaves . . . I have lost hope with this plant though . . . . it is a slow grower for me . Noubikko : Look on E - bay for Ylang Ylang seeds . E - bay has everything ! June 21 , 2005 pratik_ardeshna I read somewhere that this flower is base material in world famous perfume CHANEL NO . 5 Can anyone send me a Calanga - Ylang Ylang seeds ? I am from fascinating India and Thanks in advance . . . - Pratik April 11 , 2015 L M i found several cone shaped yellow seeds below what I bought as " ylang Ylang " plant . Is this normal and can I propogate from thee ? Thanks September 24 , 2016 L M it looks like the seeds yellowed due to ripening and fell off the small tree . September 25 , 2016 Amanda N Kainale Hi ! ! I just cut a big ylang ylang tree down and pulled all the seed pods I could find . . how do I know which seeds are mature enough to grow ? Do they need to be black ? And how long should I dry them before planting ? August 29 , 2017 Sign Up to Comment | [
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http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/1937744/what-vegetables-do-deer-not-eat | What vegetables do deer NOT eat ? Comments ( 16 ) anniew Perhaps . . . .and it depends on how hungry the deer are . . .asparagus , rhubarb , garlic . Everything else is pretty much fair game ( no pun intended ) . Like Save January 25 , 2003 Wingnut_8b I agree with Annie . I do n ' t know about rhubarb and asparagus , but I have some garlic and onions planted outside the garden fence and the cows have muched them down . I know deer eat different things than cattle , but if the cattle eat them I ' d bet the deer would too . Can you fence it 6 or 8 feet high ? That ' s about the ONLY thing that REALLY works to keep deer out . I knew someone who planted things like lantana and rosemary around the perimeter of his veggie patch . Deer are browsers , so once they got a whiff of the not - so - tasty things on the outside , they just meandered on off . This only worked when there was plenty of other things for them to eat outside the garden ~ if they ' re hungry , they ' ll jump the rosemary , et al , and much on your veggies in a heartbeat . Along with the above , he sprayed everything inside with one You could also set up a deer blind real close and get veggies AND meat from your garden . ; ) All that is just too much work for me , so if I did n ' t have BIG dogs to run the deer off , I ' d just build a fence one year and call it good . ; ) 1 Like Save January 26 , 2003 westbeck35 Use all the ideas above and add on to it . Deer are leary of the color white . The danger sign is the flash of a white tail . A white rope around the garden at 3 1 / 2 or 4 feet off the ground . I have raised bed with 10 ' white pvc hoops to hold the plastic and row covers . They wo n ' t put their heads through the hoops . Stick some rods in the ground and tie white kitchen bags over the rods so they can flap in the wind . Like March 21 , 2003 pnbrown In my experience , deer do not eat garlic or onions ; not a bite while absolutely everything else right by them is gobbled . Last summer my deer - infested field produced 400 lbs of onions but not a single potatoe from 50lbs planted . 1 Like March 22 , 2003 Growin_Crazy We always just put hay bales and a water trough out about 30 feet from the garden . They never touched the garden at all . Same with rabbits . Planted a row of lettuce all the way around the garden . They ate that and stayed away from the veggies . Maybe I was just lucky . Do n ' t know what the cost of hay is in your area , but in mine it was pretty cheap , and I could barter with a guy down the road who grew it , so it was a good April 2 , 2003 nygardener Inside my garden there is a huge bed of lettuce . The rabbits stay away from that and chow down on broccoli and savoy cabbage . Go figure ! For deer I have a 6 foot fence . For a larger garden or where deer are bigger you might need 8 feet . It ' s not that much work to put up fencing on metal posts and not that expensive . You could try a border of " stinky " stuff like wormwood , feverfew , marigolds , and garlic . Maybe tansy and rue . June 1 , 2007 pablo_nh I hope they solved the problem by now : ) June 8 , 2007 stan41 I never have had deer eat tomato plants . They eat just about everything else though . This year I put up a temporary electric fence . Works like a charm ! No deer have been inside my garden this year for the first time ever . Stan July 18 , 2007 beverlylyon I make egg shell potpourri baggies and hang them around my garden perimeter at nose height to deer . They hate the smell of egg shells . I ' ve been saving my egg shells ever since I read that they disliked the odor . It works really well . August 8 , 2016 perennialprobowler In the suburbs deer love tomato plants . I saw a deer prevention system that shoots a stream of water when they come near . February 25 , 2017 jeanette_cox_ns Last summer the deer enjoyed everything in my garden except the kale . I had my lettuce in a separate place in a ground level planter & they did n ' t touch it . This year we are putting up a high fence so we have a good crop . April 13 , 2017 natwman I supplement feed deer regularly . I have found that deer as a whole do not like ASPARAGUS , ONIONS or HOT PEPPERS like JALEPENOS . They will eat regular peppers although its not on the top of their list . I have experimented with many fruits and veggies and I have found that they are somewhat discriminating eaters . Some deer like strawberries , etc . while others wo n ' t eat them . Most do n ' t prefer cauliflower if there are other options . Pregnant deer in their later term will be the least discriminating April 26 , 2017 natwman Note on the fencing . I just read an article that says if you put up a deer fence it should be 8 FEET HIGH not 6 feet as the deer can get tangled up in it trying to clear it , possibly with a broken leg and die . Sadly , I found this to be true . We have a fence about this height put up around some land we had on a hill near a busy road . The fence was more for boundary purposes but I did n ' t think the deer would even try April 26 , 2017 Aurora Borealis OK , this is a wild - card solution , but it works for those with an appetite for homesteading and keeping chickens or ducks . IMO , putting up an 8 foot fence is MUCH harder / heavier work than putting up a 6 foot fence . If you ' re having pros do it - no problem . 6 ' is n ' t enough . BUT - deer are fearful of a double fence , it ' s hard to gauge the distance for jumping . So I did a double 6 ' fence around my garden 2 Likes May 4 , 2017 Thomas Reed Deer are related to goats . They are what are commonly referred to as unconscious nibblers . Which means they will eat almost anything . Up to and including pine needles which they seem to like very much . So far everything we have put out in the front yard they have eaten . Except the mint plants , and a lemon that one of my grand kids tried to feed to one of them and the deer tried to eat it . The thing you need to know about deer is that their appetites will change . Just when July 9 , 2017 dennis5565 You forgot rocks . They do n ' t eat them if they are bad tasting . February 10 , 2018 Sign Up to Comment | [
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http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/1937751/cheapest-land-per-acre-in-the-usa | Homesteading cheapest land per acre in the U.S.A . farmfreedom January 18 , 2006 Where is cheapest land per acre in the U.S.A. ? ? ? I can relocate anywhere . No hazardous waste dumps please . no " wetlands " please . What are the drawbacks ? I will consider any state or territory . Email Save Comment 107 Like 1 Comments ( 107 ) See 57 more comments oregonwoodsmoke A few suggestions : Call the electric company . They will have a line for new construction . You ask them how much it costs to bring a line in . But sit down and hold onto your hat before you ask . My last quote was $ 30,000 to bring the power half a mile . That ' s makes a generator look pretty good . Call local well drillers or the local water master . They will know how deep the local wells are and if you can even get a permit to drill a well . In some areas you can not drill a well , and in other areas you can only have a well for household use , no irrigation . Every drop of water everywhere in the USA belongs to someone . You ca n ' t just take it . The county planning and development will tell you what can be built , what the regs are for mobile homes ( check age restrictions , if you plan to buy a used one ) I ' ve never had a county assessor ' s office be anything but polite and give me owner ' s information when I called them . Did you phone ? If you are going out there , you can walk into the office . Yes , definitely verify ownership and insist that the sale goes through escrow and you definitely want to buy title insurance , even on a cheap purchase . 1 Like Save October 16 , 2010 last modified : March 7 , 2015 corrie_anderson_hotmail_com My family & I are looking for inexpensive land - 100 acres or more - but at the same time it has to be able to grow crops & carry livestock - as well as keep wildlife sustained . Our purpose is quite simple - we want to get back to the basics of life - completely self sustaining ! We want to be able to have organic free range chickens , ducks , goats for milk & other dairy needs , sheep for milk , meat , & wool - as well as cash crops - all to be stored for personal use & sold for income . We also would like to eventually ( years down the line ) be able to open a holistic healing center that takes payments for services in kind - like communities use to do ! You have no money - what can you offer in place of money ? Do you raise chickens , grow crops we do n ' t - we give you services for the commerce you have to offer - We feel that had our society not become so monetarily minded , we would n ' t have half of the problems we have - & our kids would not be facing a future in the middle - class slave trade just to keep the heat on ! Nevertheless . . . . * * We ' ve been looking in Kentucky & West Virginia - We are not opposed to snow , in fact we quite enjoy it - but DO NOT want to be snowed under for most of the year ! * * Ideally we ' d like to be about 20 - 45 mins out from a small town ; 1 - 1 1 / 2 hrs from a good size city . We want seclusion but accessibility , should we choose to use it ! * * We want to have at least 1 stream on the property - water is a must for survival & homesteading - * * We would also like the land to have a combination of options - ie : some flat for building & some hilly / mountainous regions - & although I ' d LOVE to have a cave on the property - its not a necessity ! : - D Having said that , I need help finding the right sites to look on - I am by no means a computer guru & everything that I find is Broker run - & we all know that their commission means higher cost to the buyer ! Unfortunately , every time I try to find foreclosed or tax seized property , I end up on sites that want you to pay for any information . I know that there are ways to get the info wo going through them , but I have n ' t a clue how to access it ! I hope this info is helpful - I would be so eternally grateful for any support I can get with this venture ! Thanks so much - 1 Like December 9 , 2010 last modified : March 7 , 2015 oregonwoodsmoke Once you have a location in mind , you can search Craigslist real estate for sale by owner . Gotta tell you , sometimes ( often ) FSBO is more expensive than what is listed with a real estate agent . The agent tries to talk the seller into trying for a realistic price . All foreclosures are going to be through an agent . That ' s the way it is done . HUD lists their own foreclosures on their website and there are some good bargains there . I think I ' ve got address for a couple of sites where you can see foreclosures listed for free . I would NOT pay for that information . If you know what county , foreclosures will be listed at the county offices , because they require legal paperwork to be filed . Also , most banks will have a list of their own foreclosures on the web . Search by each bank individually . Counties will give you a listing of their tax sale properties . Be aware that in most states , you are buying a tax certificate and not the land . You will have to wait out the redemption period and then foreclose . The property might come with unpaid liens . Do n ' t buy at tax sales without learning every single detail of how it works . Do not assume you know what you are doing because of what you ' ve heard about it . December 14 , 2010 For foreclosures , you can try this website . If they just hint around at the property and do n ' t give the listing or the bank , simply check with the county , or with a local real estate agent that handles foreclosures . All foreclosures are sold through agents . There is no reason to pay for information . For the sales on the courthouse steps , sometimes you can buy , but often the bank buys back and then lists the property with an agent . Do n ' t buy on the courthouse steps unless you ' ve done a title search beforehand . http : / / www all - foreclosures . com / reolist . htm December 14 , 2010 Realtor . com will give you a listing of most properties for sale in an area . RealtyTimes will give you some names of local agents plus a market report on local sales conditions . retrogeek42 I stumbled across this site through a Google search . If you are looking for cheap , tillable land , I suggest the Texas Panhandle . We live " in town " in a community just under 1,000 pop , and our home ( purchased through tax bid for $ 370 ) appraises at $ 8600 . . .for a 2 ( LARGE ! ) bedroom home with 300 sq . foot basement . . .total living area of about 1500 square feet . The total lot size is about 1 / 4 acre . Most land needs to be purchased in larger acreages , but land in the small towns or on the outskirts of these towns goes for a pittance . And the area where I live is about an hour from Amarillo , so employment options are relatively strong , as unemployment in the area is roughly 5 % . 2 Likes December 15 , 2010 Nature4Me Hi - Just a few things . . . . 1st ) Thank you for all of the input I am getting - Any & all information is helpful & much appreciated . 2nd ) To Retrogeek42 - if you would be kind enough to give the website you found through google , I would very much appreciate that as well ! 3rd ) I received an email from a individual named Sofia Duncan , stating that she read my post & asked that I email her from my personal email . I do n ' t want to come across as paranoid . However , I am a bit leary of giving out my personal email & / or any other personal info w / o being able to verify who the person is . If anyone knows this person , has information on her , or you yourself are on here & can post a message on the board letting Thanks again for all the info - PLEASE keep it coming ! Happy New Year To ALL ! ! ! Like December 30 , 2010 p_mayall_hotmail_com Hello Everyone , I am looking for information on inexpensive property to raise goats , vegetables , fruit trees , that is a few miles from a small town , and about 25 miles from a med - size city somewhere in the South . I am looking for mainly flat to rolling acreage between 5 to 10 acres . I am looking for a place that is friendly and accepts outsiders . I presently live in a small town in Kentucky , but the people do not like outsiders and are not very friendly . Any information on this subject would be January 8 , 2011 waltthechipman_yahoo_com I have lived in sw tx / nm now for 10 years . there property in orla tx area for 50.00 per ac . you just have to look . yes 50.00 per acre 5 ac and up . and west of orla tx to van horn thats 100 miles worth . the prices are climbing and taxs are cheap . remember it is desert land . water is in tanks and most the time no electric close by . ward county has a ton of 5 ac parcels for 1000 . + - .google van horn or ward county hope this helps all who want cheap land . 2 Likes January 26 , 2011 farmfreedom Thank you for being specific as I have asked from the beginning . Can you get any of this land with alodial title ? YOU HAVE BEEN THE GREATEST HELP OF ALL . February 11 , 2011 landwatcher WARNING . . . .If you even attempt to buy land in Van Horn , Texas , be sure to check the land owner . A fella named Glenn Rankle has land there , for sale , to which he will never give you the ownership to . It was 4000 for 40 acres back in the late 70 ' s and early 80 ' s and after I paid him off ( including interest at 9 % ( This was back in the 80 ' s remember and interest was NOT at 9 % ) he sent me a letter telling me I still had to pay , yet another 4000 ( plus interest ) . I told him where to get off , and he is still trying to pull this crap , selling that same old useless land . Water is available at a depth of 500 feet . YES ! ! ! 5 Hundred feet . No electricity is available and only windmills are used and they are 25 footers or larger . There was only one , within a 20 mile radius . Callte can only eat scrub oaks , which are not even available this year due to severe drought coinditions and probably not available for the next few years until it comes back , and even then it is few and far between . The soil is not sandy or loamy but ROCKS ! ! ! I know of no crops being grown there , and there are no ther ground water sources available . Glenn Rankle rips people off around the U.S and that fact can be found by googling his name and doing your research . This jerk made millions off of unsuspecting people getting ripped off and he continues to this day . If I remmeber correectly the name of the ranch he was selling off was the Wolf Creek Ranch or something similar . My main point is to research the land before you buy it , who is selling it , and what is there reputation . Are there any minerals , where and how much water is available , and HOW is it available . Is there any electrical available , are there any cell towers in the area , and how far away are they . How about emergency services , etc . Last but not least , make sure there are no incumberences , no levy ' s , and that your contract is ron clad , down to the letter , or people like Rankle will rip your money right out from under you . My total loss to the rat ba $ tard was around 9000.00 for a worthless pile of junk land , which it still is , to this day . August 9 , 2011 landwatcher by the way , minerals only give you rights down a few hundred feet . 500 feet and you would have to pay for the right to access that water . The windmill & tower would cost around 5 - 8 thousand dollars , not including the 1 - inch steel rods you would need to pump that water , at that depth , the pump and standing barrel at the bottom , not to mention drilling of the well , casing , cementing in the casing , water holding tanks , etc . and then it would have to Just be aware of Glenn Rankle and his tricks . He is definitely a rip off artist . Look him up . sorry for the mispelled words , as I should have proofread it before posting it . August 9 , 2011 to find out about Glen Rankle , check this link http : / / whois . domaintools . com / grland . com Notice how many times he has changed his website ( over 50 ) and how many times he has done other things to try and hide ( over 100 ) He has 5 other websites , and is supposed to be a realestate dealer in California . Fat chance anyone should ever buy anything from this jerk . Here is a link that might be useful : glen rankle fesrigohl Looking for small acerage in mid to southern east of PA . . ie Nothumberland . Ag or NO zoning . I am a professional dog breeder ( 50 title holders , inc . Best In Show winners ) . BUT PA ranks ALL dog related matters as PUPPY FARMS ie the Amish and others that keep dogs like chickens in cages and do NO quality control . Taxes in NJ became impossible & I had to sell my property . At 70 I could no longer have a night job and work in the kennel all day . I do NOT want to board dogs . I never sell wholesale or on breeders terms or give full AKC regs unless the dogs is shown to Ch title & passes all health checks , etc . . People need to www . SrigoRottweilers . net . I chose the area mewntioned as it is not so far removed from my client base of the East coast . In addition to Rottweilers I will have an Italian pointing breed and an English breed smaller than a Pembroke Welsh Corgi that herds and rats . I have owned other rare breeds of BiS quality in the past & expect to do the same with these breeds . Any suitable info will be appreciated . When I travel to see re i MUST TAKE MY 4 DOGS WITH ME . . it is VERY difficult ! ! September 24 , 2011 finquerito I want to buy a house and a small piece of land , probably in florida . For retirement . Any good ideas . October 10 , 2011 THEPLANTZOMBIES Been lurking on this big giant thread a little bit . Friicking INFORMATIONAL OVERLOAD ! LOL ! Yah But Im in the same boat . Good Stuff . . . Trying to find an area in Illinois that has no population around it for 5 square miles . Not necessarilly buy all that acreage , jsut have a central plot enveloped in all that abject desolation . Well any ideas how to do this for $ 5000 - $ 15000 ? Any Tips on . . .Shawnee National Forrest , or Rent Vacant FarmStead , or Governmetal permits passes , February 18 , 2012 felin Just reading this thread for first time . Curious , farmfreedom , if you ' ve yet purchased your land ? February 19 , 2012 HawkNo1 I am looking for cheap land because I want to build a Earthship type home like found in the YouTube Documentary called " Garbage Warrior " I also like what I saw on 1,000,000 lbs of food , 10,000 fish and 500 yards of compost on 3 acres per year . It also was at YouTube . On Three acres you can make a good living , feed your family organically and heat your home and cool it and supply your own electrical , water and sewage needs for nothing . That is what I want land for . I You can be completely self sufficient in a few short years this way . You would not make any pollution foot print on this planet and you would have all your needs taken care of . You could probably do this easily with just 2 acres . Especially with all this vertical gardening stuff out there . You need to research this yourselves . Enjoy . February 23 , 2012 THEPLANTZOMBIES Any realtors in Illinois that specialize in OFF GRID ? February 26 , 2012 cheyenne Like argamonius I too love goats ! I ' ll probably start out with five acres , a few goats , a cabin , SMALL barn and a greenhouse in NE Washington State or Northwestern Cali . In the future I ' ll be looking for between 40 - 160 unbuilt acres for homestead with goats , horses , trees , pasture , access to water , near small town and hour or so from big town ( not city ) . Low - no land tax and no restrictive codes as regards fencing or building . I need room to build an arena for horses , a barn and greenhouse and still have room for pasture and field . I ' d like to have a few small houses rather than one large one , not Ideally this would be in Northern Cali . but Eastern Washington near Idaho would be good too . Actually this is so specific I really enjoy trolling the real estate sites for these two areas . The restrictions on land / water use are so scary for me , imagine planning largish scale construction and having to stop and regroup because you found your plans were n ' t kosher ! March 13 , 2012 obywan I was reading this thread and would like to contribute . I think the documentary Garbage Warrior on Youtube would be of interest to you all . You can also go to Earthship ( dot ) com for more info . You can also watch Earthship seminar Part 1 and 2 on Youtube for more detailed info . It is possible to live off the grid with no well and no utilities coming into your home . You can grow food indoors year round including citrus and bananas even if you live in a cold climate . It is all September 18 , 2012 topsiebeezelbub Costillo county in southern Colorado is very cheap land , but be sure there is water available . It is near the Great Sand Dunes Nat . Park and not too far from Santa Fe New Mexico , so I think it will be worth a lot more someday . I remember seeing giant tomato farms there as a kid , but is just desert with no water . Great place to build an earthship and harvest snow in a cistern . September 19 , 2012 Doglips I ' m looking to buy land on the moon , can u guys recommend a good location ? I ' ll move there , I ' ll do it . September 30 , 2012 SantaBarbaraChris Wow , great information here . In 2002 I did a research on property and wanted these things : clean air , clean water , moderate climate , no military bases , and no Superfund sites or toxic waste dumps . Those were the parameters I typed into the government database called Enviro - mapper . There were only four places that came up that met most of the demands . Southern New Mexico met all plus more ( 1 1 / 2 hours to an international airport , 15 minutes to town , and 15 minutes to an interstate , and a hospital too ) Ideally , I would have liked to gather several neighbors and form a cooperative type eco - village . Now I am back online and looking to see what everyone else is doing around the country and to ask if anyone has successfully partnered with others to create small communities similar to the one I mentioned . October 21 , 2012 ShadowLady57 In terms of goats , and predators , some breeds of dogs , are guards for your animals , like the Kuvasz , Anatolian Shepard , Great Pyrenees and about 11 other breeds , these dogs live in with the goats , or sheep , and will take down most anything that tries to hurt your flock . Its something to think about if you want land that is out of the way , it would cut down on predation , and keep your investment safe . November 8 , 2012 ShadowLady57 Make sure you do your homework before buying any land , you can get topographic maps from the USGS , that will show roads , elevations , whether the land is forested , etc . As for Craigs List , be very careful , most of the stuff on their is scams , with people just trying to get your money . I had friends that thought they were getting a fixer upper house , and they paid their money and moved in , imagine their surprise when the real owner showed up , wanting to know what they were November 8 , 2012 SantaBarbaraChris Thanks for the great reminder ShadowLady . All counties have the information needed . I saw a property I was interested in recently only to find out that it was located within a home owners association even though it was in a rural area . The monthly fees were $ 341.00 . There were many foreclosed homes in the same area . November 9 , 2012 mesusan5 Lots of ideas here . Thanks . I am 50 , female and living on disability . I currently rent and am likely looking at divorce very soon . So I am beginning to wonder about the next chapter in many life . Really interested in " tiny homes " built on a trailer axle to avoid the hassles of building permits but I need land . So , just began looking for reasonable land . This is one of the first sites I actually joined because there are lots of useful ideas . I like the idea of " communites " but where do you find them ? Ideally I would love to find about 4 acres for about $ 5000.00 tops . ( For all , not each ) in a climate warmer and dryer than Seattle and not too far from town and medical facility . Not that I hope to need it much but kinda scary to be too far away . Lol Like I said , just beginning my search . Any thoughts or ideas ? Thanks for any leads . January 17 , 2013 magilojoh @ farmfreedom I am new to this page . I just wanted to say that it sounds like you would be interested in what this person has to say @ solarcabinhomesteading http : / / www . youtube . com / user / solarcabin . He has abt . 60 videos on self - sufficient living with lots of good tips on great places to buy cheap land and ways to scavenge things to build things . . February 19 , 2013 JoeTill Any help is appreciated ; I am interested to know where I could buy a very small piece of land , less than half an acre even , where a small dwelling could be erected . It would have to be within a couple miles of a place to get food and water , but aside from that no real restrictions . In short , for around $ 3000 could I purchase land on which a tent could be erected , or where a little cabin could be built ? I would be looking to do this as soon as possible if I am able to get the right information and simply go through with the deal - so any help towards this end is valuable . A lot of information is already contained in the thread , but anything a bit more specific as to my purposes ( land on which a tent / etc could be erected , not concerned at the moment with agricultural prospects , etc . ) Thanks . . March 2 , 2013 A lot of people are asking this same question right now . I know there must be groups of homesteaders on the Internet . As far as cheap land goes , there is still acreage in Deming Ranchettes ( Deming , New Mexico ) available but the zoning and regulations have changed constantly . Nowadays you ca n ' t even run gas lines or electric lines to your property without a building permit . I think the best thing to do is find people who have similar interests and values , pool your money and buy a large piece of land in an unicncoporated area , and divide it up between the partners . Only resell to the other partners first , and then only to people who will agree to abide by the common rules that you all come up with . March 7 , 2013 Hawknest ' Where is cheapest land per acre in the U.S.A. ? ? ? I can relocate anywhere . No hazardous waste dumps please . no ' wetlands ' please . What are the drawbacks ? I will consider any state or territory ' I ' ve been pondering this same question for quite a while . Land in Wyoming is certainly cheap - esp near Rawlins . Understand there are no rights passed along . No water , no minerals , nothing . It ' s scrub land - greasewood and lots of alkali flats . $ 45k gets you a quarter section . In New Mexico - land from Magdalena up the hill to Quemado is cheap too . Water wells are deep 450 ' or more and expensive to drill . In West Texas , my choice is Sanderson - Dryden . I can get 700 ac for $ 250 - 295 / ac . There ' s water and some semblence of structures . Lots of game - more than the other states and not many hunters . You can get ' out ' easier - road and Amtrak in Alpine . I ' m moving to my piece of heaven shortly and do n ' t mind the elev or the dry summer heat , b / c it ' s practically the same as my Wyoming homestead . I will not miss the religious people showing up on my doorstep once a month - trying to save me , nor harrassment by the local kops . October 1 , 2013 apophasis Well , there ' s some cheap land in New Mexico for sure , but the problem is water . Up around Taos , Tres Piedras , it ' s still cheap . I moved to Taos in 1995 to work on Earthships there , and for a bit of a hijack , I would tell anybody who ' s thinking about building one to run , not walk , in another direction . Earthships are a terrible design , and a bad idea in every way , including thermally . I ' ve built them and lived in them and they are awful . Look into something that actually works , like straw bale , or rastra block , or hemp - crete . . . Earthships are just awful things . Yes , they have some good ideas , like rooftop rainwater catchment and grey water , but use those in a better design . Here ' s what you want : Superinsulation , r - 50 or better , everywhere including the roof . Radiant heat , fed by a solar water heater panel , and maybe wood , gas , whatever , as well . No north windows and lots of vertical south windows , with overhangs to exclude summer sun , but admit winter sun . You want a lot of thermal mass inside an insulative envelope , with good solar gain in winter and none in summer . Earthships are directly coupled to the earth with no insulation , so while they wo n ' t freeze , they do try to remain 58 degrees , like the earth . That ' s just miserable in winter . And in summer , the slanted glass overheats and humidifies , and your house feels like a greenhouse , because it is . Plus , they are super labor - intensive to build , and use an ungodly amount of concrete . Ugh . Back on topic : I ' m leaving tomorrow on a quest for cheap land in southern Colorado . If I find anything , I ' ll shout back . October 5 , 2013 auntiesherry I know this thread is several years old , but it is helpful to me now since I am looking for raw land in the next few months or so . I fell in love with some raw land in northern Nevada , but I was n ' t thinking with my head . I ' ve decided I want some sort of water on the land - not only a well . I also do n ' t want the high wind stuff . Oh , and I like lots of trees - so I am rethinking Nevada . I ' m in the Chicago area and I am tired of winters and was surprised to find out the winters in Nevada are worse than what I have now . I found some cheap land in west TX almost on the border to MX . I do n ' t mind someone coming over to look for a better life , but I decided I do n ' t want to be the first house " bad ( aka drugs - etc ) " people bump into . So , that part of TX is out - that ' s just me I checked out Colorado and Wyoming ( southern ) , but the well depth looks to be astronomical . Although I would get my trees and grasslands . Now I have been looking at MO ( south of Salem ) . It ' s looking better with trees and water on the land Every property I look at has 6 reasons for it and half a dozen against it . Hoping I know when I run across the right one . December 10 , 2013 BugFinderK9 How about this one ? ? 90k for 60 acres in Paradise ! ! Here is a link that might be useful : Land for sale in MO June 29 , 2014 For those of you who wonder where I planned to settle it was in the Hilo Hawaii area the closer the lava flow the cheaper the land . In some areas they have 365 days with out frost . My second choice would be in Texas with alodial title that means that the land is not part of an incorporated city or town so you do not have to pay property taxes on it . My health has taken a turn for the worse so I will be staying In Ma . because of the health insurance . Did you August 4 , 2014 Drakemoore From what I ' ve seen . Land itself is n ' t that expensive in almost every state . Note ' land ' . Not : " House and land , mobile home and land " Not : " Within 5 miles or less from a town of more than 500 people " Not : " With water tapped and connected to power grid " Yes : " Land in the middle of nowhere covered with trees " Yes : " Land that ' s a desert or rocky , in the middle of nowhere " That ' s not to say that there ' s not hidden gems out there . I ' ve seen some beautiful land , 5 + acres with homes , or mobile homes , not that far from town for less than $ 50k . Problem ? It ' s usually sold within days of it entering the MLS . Either by desperate people who have the money to buy it outright , or by people / businesses wanting to resell it for profit . I mean , if you do n ' t mind living in the middle of nowhere , and either living entirely off grid or having to pay to get electricity , well and plumbing installed and probably living inside a camper or a small temp stick house , you ' ll find a looooooot of land out there cheap . Additionally , if there ' s no well tapped there , then you wo n ' t know fully if it ' s possible to tap a well there , or it is , if the water is safe . Me personally , I would ' highly prefer ' a place where I can at least get even very low grade broadband that is n ' t delivered via satellite or wireless and is n ' t 15 + miles away from even a tiny town . If you ' re olderish or retired from business , have social security or retirement or other funds coming in and you want to want to live a homesteading kind of life to be sufficient or whatever then that ' s fine . Younger or worse off people that do n ' t August 26 , 2014 gazel Curious about this " cheap " Missouri land rumor ; I was born and raised in Missouri and have watched for reasonably priced land for over 30 years . During that time , anything productive and within reasonable commute distance priced under 2k an acre was gone quick ( some even before it hit the market . ) Recently , in the soft real estate market , I have seen unimproved tracts + / - 60 acres selling in the 2 - 2500 / acre range ; I consider this reasonable . The only thing I see much cheaper is January 18 , 2015 jksatte I am definitely interested in cheap land . I want to start a permaculture tree farm and I would like between 50 - 70 acres . I definitely have to stay around $ 1,000 per acre . It also needs to be Eastern US . I would love any advice you could give . This is my retirement plan so I need it to work out and get started as soon as possible . Thanks for you help . January 28 , 2015 josephene_gw Texas does have land taxes . Road and bridge plus school taxes . On 20 acres it is maybe 200 a year . Our land is wooded with a pond . We will be selling soon . March 10 , 2015 Hafeezur Rehman It is interesting . The blog or forum . .is very helpful . Although it is very difficult to find things you need . Aware do come . I am also looking 5 to 10 acres tillable land with water . I am aware that the prices be moderate neither costly nor cheap . My purpose is to start small vegetable farm . . . . . .then to see into the future I mean expansion is depending some time in future . I need help to buy land for my purpose . . . .the vegetable farm . . March 21 , 2015 cheneydonnie I wont to find cheap acres of land to develop with low monthly are around 2k a aker 513 Sam ranken road corpus Christi Texas 78401 Donnie Cheney ph 9365771967 I would like mountain regions if not wooded lots country May 2 , 2015 gardenexpertmountain It really depends on where you want to buy the land . There are cheaper land parcels in New York and Arkansas . I ' ve researched several sites and this one happens to be the best : More cheap land can be found at http : / / www . CheapLands . com More information about Cheap Lands : Cheap Lands , Inc . specializes in various types of land properties comprised of residential and commercial land . The land is primarily undeveloped , which often allows the buyer to make use of the land for a multitude of reasons . Buyers looking for land lots at affordable prices may find that it suits their needs . When it comes to finding the cheapest land in the the USA , a leading place to search for land for sale in America can be found at the link above . Some potential land uses for different parcels we offer may June 1 , 2015 zzackey It is very cheap to live here in Charlton county , GA . We pay no school taxes . We only pay $ 40 a year for garbage pickup and refuse pickup and road grading . It is cheap because my husband is a senior citizen . June 10 , 2015 zzackey They are paving our road today ! Hallelujah ! We live a mile in on a bumpy road . And our taxes did n ' t go up ! How cool is that ? ? July 1 , 2015 muddy38 If a realitor has a listing of 50 or so acres are they or the land owner ever willing to sell 2 or 3 acres of it ? Or are they not likely to separate any of it up . August 25 , 2015 You wo n ' t know unless you ask ! I ' ve seen acreage for sale here for years and no one has bought it . You might get lucky ! September 6 , 2015 Marc Gosset Ranking of land prices per acre not including Alaska nor Hawaii : http : / / www . msn . com / en - us / money / generalmoney / what - us - land - is - really - worth - state - by - state / ar - BBkTfZS # image = BBkGo1K | 24 April 2 , 2017 albert_135 39.17 ° N 119.76 ° W 4695ft . OP asks ' ' cheapest land per acre in the U.S.A ' ' . Literally ? It is probably a patented mining claim . It might cost $ 30,000 or more for the claim but the actual , literal , land would be only about three dollars per acre . July 21 , 2017 Elizabeth Pingry Here is a good article about values : https : / / nationalland . com / blog / latest - ag - news - metlife / June 20 , 2018 Sign Up to Comment | [
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http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/2006946/how-deep-to-plant-stargazer-lily-bulbs | How deep to plant Stargazer lily bulbs ? Comments ( 14 ) tjsangel Hi Belinda , Lily bulbs are large , meaning they need to be planted deep , about 6 - 8 inches . The length of your hand is one way to tell how deep to plant these : ) BTW , I love these lilies ! They are so beautiful & fragrant . Jen Like Save May 1 , 2006 belindainga Thanks , so much , Jen ! That is a big help . . .I wanted to plant them last evening , but I was paranoid that I would plant them incorrectly . I appreciate you pointing me in the right direction . . .now I can get them on their way ! : - ) I ca n ' t wait to see them bloom , if they bloom , of course ! lol Thank you again . . . . . .Belinda Like Save May 2 , 2006 hld6 Hi Belinda , With only a few exceptions , ( Candidum for instance ) , Lilies are stem rooting plants and benefit from being planted deep , 8 " - 10 " . Other exceptions are species lilies that have small bulbs like pumilum and cernuum . Also , since lily bulbs are tasty , planting deep keeps the squirrels from getting them in the winter . A deep insulating layer of soil also helps moderate wide temperature swings in late winter that can fool bulbs into sprouting early . If you ' ve already planted them do n ' t worry , the stem rooting is beneficial , but 2 " does n ' t make a big difference . Just mulch them well in the Fall . - Helen May 2 , 2006 linnea56 I asked my DH to transplant some for me ( my carpal tunnel was acting up ) and just noticed a couple were planted too shallowly ! This was done a week or more ago . Do I need to replant these ? Or is it too late now ? I had planted them in a holding bed last fall because I bought the bulbs then could n ' t get into the dense garden jungle to plant them . These are Orientals , which I have not grown before . May 3 , 2006 hld6 Hi Linnea56 Since they were transplanted only a couple weeks ago they have n ' t had much time to establish so I ' d go ahead and move them now . Just be careful when digging to not break off the stem that may be beginning to emerge from the bulb underground and try to disturb the roots as little as possible . The soil should still be pretty soft around them so it should n ' t be too difficult to dig them up gently . But honestly , one of the great things about lilies is that they ' re not " fussy " plants . If you ' d prefer to set them deeper in the Fall , ( assuming a new " jungle " has n ' t grown up by then ) , they would grow fine this season . Deeper is just more ideal . - Helen May 3 , 2006 shic_2006 Are Stargazers different from Orientals ? May 5 , 2006 Stargazers are one type of Oriental Lily . While it is the most popular , there are many others . - Helen May 7 , 2006 peternyc Helen , Thanks so much for answering my question - my apologies for the delay in thanking you . I will wait until the leaves and stems have died back , early fall , as you say ; better to have them for years to come than ruin them now . This is a wonderful forum . Thank you again ! Sincerely , Peter NYC June 20 , 2006 mano I just purchased 14 Stargazer lily bulbs . Is it OK to plant them now , or do I need to wait until spring ? Thanks , Mano Virginia February 23 , 2008 alina_1 Mano , Plant them ASAP . Lilies do not go dormant like other bulbs . They will be weaker if you will store them . We will have pretty decent frost free weather next week here in Mid - Atlantic area , so the soil will be workable . Provide them with excellent drainage . Good luck ! February 24 , 2008 mano Alina , Thanks , I read your note and went outside immediately and planted them . The weather today is overcast and 50 degrees , so it was perfect to dig a few holes . I ' ll report back when they bloom . Thanks again for the advice . Mano February 24 , 2008 alina_1 You ' re welcome ! I hope you chose a sunny spot for them . Watch for slugs when your Lilies will start to sprout . Alina . I do n ' t have a great deal of sun in my yard . I ' m on 3 acres , but in the woods ; however , I planted them where I get the most sun . Some that I planted a couple of years ago did very well last year just a few feet away , so I hope it will be OK . February 25 , 2008 Dolly Browning I just planted my Lillie ' s in the soil . I was wondering how much water I needed to give the bulbs and how long do the bulbs take to sprout ? April 17 , 2016 Sign Up to Comment | [
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http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/2021916/hummingbirds | Minnesota Gardening Hummingbirds jel48 April 22 , 2007 Time to put out the hummingbird feeders and anything else you might use as ' hummingbird bait ' - the first of the spring migration hit Minnesota last week . I went shopping at the local nurseries for my own hummingbird bait , as I do every year about this time . For me , it ' s generally one or two hanging planters full of ( mostly ) petunias , as the hummingbirds seem to like them pretty well . I find that the plain old dark purple ones seem to work the best . I ' m always Do you put out hummingbird bait in the spring ? And , if so , what is your favorite ? Here is a link that might be useful : Spring 2007 Hummingbird Migration Map Email Save Comment 36 Like Comments ( 36 ) dmurray407 I ' ve had my feeders up for a few days now - I have a bright red dianthus pot hanging by my feeder - I ' m not sure it ' s really on their menu , but it sure is bright . Anyway , so far no hummers . . . ( I ' m near Minneapolis ) Like Save April 22 , 2007 belle_michele This is the first year I ' m going to put out hummingbird feeders . . .last year for the first time I noticed them hanging around a hanging basket of petunias - - it was such a THRILL ! ! ! They really are like jewels in flight , I held my breath the first time I saw them . I got a couple of humingbird feeders at the end of the year at walmart , from what I ' ve read , the pre - made , red stuff is bad and it ' s better to make your own , is that correct ? I ' m even adding quite a few plants just for their benefit and if they do n ' t take advantage of it I know the bumble bees will . phyllis__mn I see they are in this area . . . .better get the feeders up in the morning . selkie_b OH THANK YOU ! I have a really nice new feeder and TOTALLY forgot I ' d tucked it away . . . On that today ! I have the " nectar " recipe - does anyone need me to post it ? We had a couple little guys a bit later in the season last summer ( first time and I ' ve been trying for years ! ) when the penstamon and cardinal flowers were blooming . - Marie April 23 , 2007 belle_michele Selkie B - yes , please , if you do n ' t mind , I ' d love to have that recipe . I had a copy of it last fall , but for the life of me ca n ' t remember where I put it . I ' m going to pick up some petunias for my hanging basket and maybe set some out in planters until things start blooming in my garden . All my nanking cherry and apricot trees are in bloom not and are just covered with bumble bees and butterflys - but I guess they are the wrong kind of flowers for Humingbirds . April 24 , 2007 selkie_b It ' s a 1 : 4 ratio - so 1 / 4 cup sugar in 1 cup water for a small feeder works great . Boil that to retard spoilage . Let it cool and put it into your feeder . It needs to be changed once a week , a bit more often if they are using it a lot or it ' s really hot - so it does n ' t ferment . DO NOT put in food coloring to make it red and DO NOT use artificial sweeteners or honey as these will all cause - Marie April 25 , 2007 Selki - B , THANKS for the recipe ! I believe the main problem with the ' commercial ' ready - to use hummingbird nectors was the issue with the added dye - there ' s some thought that that may cause weak bird shells or something . ~ Michele April 25 , 2007 birdwing I ' ve noticed they really like my Nasturtiums and the tall Nicotianas like cranberry island . .I was surprised the first time I saw one in the city too . .I ' m in St . Paul about a half mile from downtown and I get more and more every year it seems ( as my garden gets more established ) not quite swarms yet but we ' ll see ! doucanoe Wow , looks like they will arrive early this year ! The past several years I have recorded my first sighting and it has been around May 10 . I put one feeder up last weekend " just in case " . Will get the others out very soon . We usually have 3 - 4 pairs buzzing around our yard , they love my daylilies , phlox , and zinnias . Birdwing I might try nicotiana this year , do you have a favorite ? Linda irrigationcontractor Just a little more advice regarding feeding the hummingbirds - use pure cane sugar , not beet sugar or raw sugar . Keep your feeders immaculate - black mold can kill the birds . I usually just rinse my feeders out with very hot water , but I occasionaly bleach soak them . Have fun feeding your hummers ! April 26 , 2007 birdwing Doucanoe , I have been growing the nicotianas for about 4 years now . .I started w / sylvestris but that one seems to get alot of aphids . I ' ve tried pretty much all of them but I like Cranberry Island , Daylight Sensation and Mutabilis . I think they will have most of these at the friends sale . . . I really love them and they smell amazing ! April 27 , 2007 michele13bugs I love Hummingbirds too . I have a cute story I would like to tell . We have have a cabin up north between Park Rapids and Walker on Lake Belle Taine , anyway about 20 years ago my husband would always be out watering the yard with the hose and he became friends with a male hummer he named Harley after the motorcycles , since he is an old motorcycle lover . This harley Hummer would always come and take a shower in the hose spray day after day and this went on for about 5 or 6 years Michele . . . . . > , , April 27 , 2007 kimeryl For those of you who are into hummingbirds , I ' m including a link to a newsletter some friends from Madison put together . They are about as hummingbird crazy as you can get , I think they have around 40 feeders and do all their plantings to maximize the draw to their yard . They also do a fall festival at their home that ' s pretty neat . Last year , I saw soming hummers in our yard out of the blue , did n ' t even have the feeders up . It is a fun Here is a link that might be useful : Hummingbird Newsletter May 1 , 2007 gamebird Okay , I ' m embarrassed to post this , but I gotta learn somehow . A friend of mine is really entranced with the idea of attracting hummingbirds so last year he bought a feeder and food , filled it and asked if he could hang it in our backyard . I said yes , if he ' d do everything needed to upkeep it . He agreed . So the filled feeder hung there all summer . In the fall it began to leak and eventually I took it down , washed it out and stored it for the winter . I think he changed the " food " once during that summer . Spring has now arrived , and he came by and got the feeder out of storage a few weeks ago , filled it and hung it up . Is it supposed to be changed every week ? I have yet to see a single hummingbird eat out of it , though I ' ve seen plenty of wasps around it last year and some dead ants were in it ( not sure how they got there ) . I ' ve seen a hummingbird in my neighbor ' s yard , checking out his trumpeter vines , so I know I ' d rather not have the feeder hanging there , feeding nothing and perhaps spoiling or fermenting , for another summer . If changing it every week attracted hummingbirds to it , then I ' d do that . Last year I did n ' t realize maybe that was the problem . But now that I read in this thread that the food should be changed every week . . . So what do you suggest ? May 2 , 2007 doucanoe Gamebird , yes , you do need to keep the feeder clean and the nectar fresh . I run my feeder thru the dishwasher every couple of weeks . In between I just clean it in hot soapy water and rinse well . Make your own nectar as stated above , one part sugar to 4 parts water , bring to boil and cool . Do not add any colorings . I make a batch and keep extra in the fridge . Also , do you have any flowering plants in your yard / garden ? That will attract them also . My hummrs especially like bee balm , phlox and lilies . I am thinking of planting a honeysuckle too , they love those . Linda May 6 , 2007 garystpaul Response to irrigationcontractor above : to my knowledge there is absolutely no difference between pure cane sugar and beet sugar . Chemicially , they are exactly the same thing . GaryStPaul May 6 , 2007 michele13bugs The Hummers do love the Honeysuckle Vine too . I have about 5 of them growing around my chain link fence where my dogs are and the Hummers are there all the time . They also love the Trumpet Vine that ' s around the fence too . ( It takes about 5 to 7 years from first planting the Trumpet Vine to actually get flowers , but once they start there are more and more flowers every year . I ' ve managed to just about hide my whole fence since I do n ' t like the looks May 7 , 2007 vinmn Well It ' s May 15th of 2008 and I have n ' t seen my hummmingbirds yet this year ! ! . It has been a long cold spring so maybe they are on their way , at least that ' s what I ' m hoping . I ' ve had my feeder up for 2 weeks and have changed it a few times already . I ' m ready for them ! ! I hope to see them soon . I live just south of Minneapolis , has anyone seen them in this area yet ? Thanks Vanessa May 15 , 2008 jodikay I live about an hour north of St . Paul and have n ' t seen a hummingbird yet . I wait to put out my feeders when I spot one . My orioles just arrived so I think arrivals are a little late with the cooler weather . May 15 , 2008 jennypat Zone 3b NW MN Wow , I am way up north by Grand forks ND and saw my first hummingbird at the feeder on Monday , the 12th . Jenny P windytown We ' re 35 miles west of Minneapolis . The first hummingbird arrived on May 5th . I had been watching the map at this link and was prepared with the feeders . http : / / www . hummingbirds . net / map . html They do love the petunia baskets everyone ' s been mentioning . It ' s been a pain bringing things inside everynight but hopefully spring has finally sprung ! We ' re excited to have a pair of orioles decide to stick around this year . The only disappointment is they hog the hummer feeders . They tick off the goldfinches too when they try to feed off the red dome top on the nyger seed tube feeder . Other feathered friends this year include a pair of rose breasted grossbeaks and white breasted nuthatches . The hummingbirds are still my favorites though . : ) I ca n ' t wait for more of the perennial blooms to feed them and plant the annuals . Red salvia is the most popular among the hummers here . hummingbirds . net sandysgardens Put out a container with grape jelly for your Orioles . They love the stuff . We put ours in a plastic container that John ' s black electrical tape comes in , works great . We also hang a second liquid feeder , orange one for the Orioles , that will help too . Last night I put out a large orange , cut in half , and 3 Orioles pecked together on them - was Great to watch . NO HUMMERS yet ! They need a certain constant temp to fly , so as it warms up , they should be coming ! ! ! May 16 , 2008 windytown Thanks sandysgardens , for the oriole info . I ' ll be putting some jelly and oranges out today . We do have two liquid feeders . I ' m curious about the orange one . Is the feeder itself orange or is the liquid orange ? TIA I have my fingers crossed for you that the hummers arrive this weekend ! : ) May 16 , 2008 trinityklm The hummingbirds loved my Salvia ' May Night ' last year . Must be that deep purple color that they love . It ' s so thrilling to see them , is n ' t it ? mnwsgal Saw my first hummingbird a few days ago . Have n ' t seen it since . Orioles have been coming around this week also . lmcs800 I saw one yesterday afternoon around my bleeding heart plant . # 1 for me this year . We ' re in Centerville , about 30 miles North of StPaul . May 17 , 2008 sandysgardens Hummers did arrive this past weekend at home and up at the cabin , so we are happy ! Windytown - my Oriole feeder has a clear top , but the bottom half is orange . You can use clear liquid or you can use orange , but the feeder color being orange is usually enough . The oriole liquid mix is 5 parts water to 1 part sugar , which is a slightly less sweet than the hummer mix ( 4 / 1 ) . The feeding holes are a tiny bit bigger for the Orioles and have good perches for them to sit on to eat . I bought it at Fleet Farm . The hummers use both liquid feeders ! Sandy May 20 , 2008 Sandy , I ' m so happy for you that the hummers arrived ! Hooray ! They do make it " real " that spring has arrived . Now if only I could get my annuals and tomatoes in the ground . Grrrr . . . Thanks for the oriole feeder info . I do n ' t have a Fleet Farm in my neck of the woods but will check out a couple of places in Waconia where it seems logical they might have them . Here ' s to gardening and birds , two of life ' s greatest pleasures ! : ) May 21 , 2008 xanadu05 I have several feeders out , which the hummingbirds just ignore , but then love my blue salvia ! May 22 , 2008 sunset_shepherdess Grrr . . .I hate the preview option ! I always hit it and then close the page thinking my post posted ! LOL Michele13bugs - Really neat story about Harley . My mom has families that will nest near the house in a line of pine trees and they ' ll fight over the feeder and the boys will fight over the girls while the girls sit on our garden fence and watch . And then they ' ll be trying to chase the babies after they ' ve fledged out of the feeders so they can learn to eat " real " food . . .So cute ! My aunt and uncle have a cabin up on Belle Taine too : ) May 23 , 2008 minnesotastan If you really enjoy hummingbirds , take a look at this YouTube video - http : / / youtube . com / watch ? v = ujN4osRD22E TYWKIWDBI May 24 , 2008 mnbarb I ' m new to the site and have seen hummingbirds at my back ( NE ) window in years past , so I bought a feeder this week as well as some " Nectar " ( filtered water , sugar , tartaric acid , sodium benzoate , potassium sorbate and # 30 Red ) - - is it okay to use it or mix it with homemade 1 : 4 boiled sugar water , or should I just return it ? I ' d like to put the feeder under the wide eave at this NE window - - May 28 , 2008 mnwsgal For several years one of my hummingbird feeders has been under the eave at a NE window and is frequented by hummingbirds , orioles , finches , and chickadees . I never buy nectar , always use the boiled sugar mixture . Go ahead and save the money by returning the nectar if it is not inconvenient . Remember to change the mix often during the hot weather . I am also interested in what others use as jam and orange feeders for orioles . May 29 , 2008 That is so kool Sunset shepherdess , that your aunt and uncle are on Lake Belle Taine too . There is only one Belle Taine in the state and it is in the top 5 for clarity , 12 feet down you can see the bottom of the lake . Belle Taine means " where the water ceases to flow " since it is the last lake in the Mantrap chain . Well enough of that . I put my hummer feeders out at home here ( prior Lake , Savage area ) about a week and a half ago Michele > , , May 29 , 2008 hmcdouga23 We had a lot of the Navajo Rose salvia last year and the hummingbirds LOVED it ! We did n ' t have any feeders up and had 2 friendly hummingbirds that came by on a daily basis . May 30 , 2008 amjoinc_juno_com I ' m so glad to read it ' s time to put out the feeders . I get so many Hummingbirds in my yard each year but they can be quite territorial with my feeders . I always make my own nectar with 1 / 4 c sugar and 1 c water . They love it . Now I ' m off to fill and hang my feeders March 28 , 2011 Sign Up to Comment | [
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http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/2049133/preen-weed-killer | New England Gardening PREEN weed killer chitra0828 June 8 , 2009 Hi : I ' m a novice gardener with a bit of problem of weeds in our flower beds and ground cover ( pachysandra ) . Due to the prevalence of deer in our area , and the incidence of lyme disease I ' m really not comfortable doing more than a little weeding in the sunny patches near our house . I used to have a great , adn reasonably priced gardener who used to weed for us , but he ' s moved away and others are charging a lot more to do it . Couple questions : 1 . I ' ve been told that PREEN is a very good weed killer that should be applied to the beds in early spring and will do a great job of keeping weeds from growing . Is that right ? or is there anything else i should instead use ? 2 . The nursery told me that typically it is best applied early spring , but if i can get the beds weeded once now , then i can apply it even in mid - june and still see a big reduction in weeds for the rest of the season . Could you please advice if this is all correct , or if you have any other suggestions I ' d much appreciate it . BEst Chitra Email Save Comment 11 Like Comments ( 11 ) dorothyz6 Preen is n ' t a weed killer per se - - it ' s a pre - emergent which means it prevents weed seeds from germinating . It wo n ' t do anything for the weeds that are currently in your beds . I have on and off used Preen in my gardens . I give all the beds a thorough weeding , apply the preen and then cover the beds with about a 2 - 3 " layer of mulch . Honestly , I have n ' t noticed a huge difference between the years when I Like Save June 8 , 2009 ego45 Yes , as Dorothy said , Preen is not a weed - killer , it ' s a pre - emergent and its effect lasts for about 3 months , not more . Whatever weeds are already in a soil they will grow thru it , but it will prevent FRESH seeds from germinating . Application of Preen in April OVER the mulch reduced my maple seedling sprouting rate by 90 % at least . In my garden any bare or freshly disturbed patch of soil has to be mandatory treated by Preen . And it works . jant What George said . . .dead on . I would n ' t be gardening anymore without it . . .my back could n ' t take it . MILLIONS of Norway seedlings spring up here every year . I do what George does ; put it right on top of the mulch under our monster Maple and water in . I reapply usually in late June , first one is done in late March . They also make a Preen with fertilizer which I use in my beds . My beds are normally without mulch because I transplant so June 9 , 2009 chitra0828 Hey this is great . So it looks like consensus seems to be go with the Preen , and you ' ve kindly suggested how i do it . OK . will do . In visiting the website it appears that organic Preen is the one to use with pachysandra , hydrangea etc v . the regular one . So i guess i ' ll do that . Thx Chitra June 9 , 2009 crnaskater Just remember that it lasts a max of 3 months - which could mean a big flush of weeds in August . Been there , done that and what a mess ! diggerdee zone 6 CT A chemical - free option is to lay newspaper ( about 8 sheets ) down in your beds , in between and around the plants , and then to mulch on top of that . Personally , I would weed the bed first , and then lay the paper and mulch , but I suppose you could try laying the paper right over the weeds and then mulching . The newspaper will smother the weeds and help prevent new ones from popping up . : ) Dee P.S. Have never tried it , but I ' ve read that corn gluten works the same way as Preen , and is more environmentally friendly . I believe you ' d have to use it in the same way as Preen ( pre - emergent , etc . ) June 10 , 2009 siennact I think organic Preen probably IS corn gluten . I bet it ' s cheaper without the Preen canister . June 10 , 2009 diggerdee zone 6 CT Hmm , I never knew there was an organic Preen , lol . You ' re probably right - cheaper without the label , lol ! : ) Dee tomakers I just looked at a friend ' s container of Preen the other day and IT IS corn gluten . I attempted to explain to my friend to just get the corn gluten , but sometimes people wo n ' t believe you if it does n ' t cost them anything ( my advice , I mean ) . Now I am looking for a source of corn gluten , I assume corn meal would work as well and I think I have read it will also suppress some diseases as well . June 12 , 2009 runktrun I am by all means not trying to squelch your attempts to organically control your weeds but I thought I should mention one potential problem with the product is that it may attract rodents . Since it is a protein by - product , mice , rabbits and other rodents may be attracted to it . Frankly corn and its by products are the favorite food of rodents or so I have been told by the experts . tomakers I would think that corn meal would be more expensive than corn gluten as there is no secondary market to sell gluten but there is nothing like a warm piece of corn bread . But I am interested to hear what you find . June 12 , 2009 Well , the cynic in me says that even if one is trying to stay organic ( and I do garden completely organically ) that buying corn gluten is probably a joke because it ' s most likely made with genetically modified corn . Sigh . Anyway , this is n ' t a discussion of organic vs . non - organic , and I apologize if I seemed to try to make it one . I just like to gently suggest other options , and since the OP did ask for some , I offered . Which brings me back to the newspaper . I am this very day going out to re - mulch a shrub border that I originally did last fall . Why re - mulch ? Because when I filled this raised - bed border with trucked - in soil , and then mulched , I did not put down newspaper , ( gosh , that soil looked so nice and pristine , lol ! ) and now it is absolutely covered in weeds , right through the mulch . Soooo , off to weed , pull back the existing mulch , lay down a nice thick layer of newspaper , and re - mulch . That should keep it nice for a few years until the paper breaks down and it needs to be redone . Dee Sign Up to Comment | [
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http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/2115233/can-cucumber-plants-be-cloned | Plant Propagation Can Cucumber Plants Be Cloned ? soulreaver May 12 , 2009 I ca n ' t find any information on cloning cucumber plants anywhere on the web and I ' m starting to wonder if it ' s because it ca n ' t be done . I have a cucumber plant that came up with leaves that were 50 % bigger than normal and within 5 weeks it had 4 seperate stems all over a half inch in diameter with all leaves that were between 2 and 3 times the size of a normal leaf . Somehow this plant is like on steroids and has unbelievable vigor . Any help in how I could propagate it would be greatly appreciated thanks . Email Save Comment 5 Like Comments ( 5 ) hortus_custodis Cucumbers can be cloned . There would be two ways to accomplish it . One is through tissue culture , expensive and not likely to be as reliable as layering , cuttings , or from seed . Embryo harvesting is tedious and requires technical skill and the tools to accomplish it . The layer method would by to " brush " rotting hormone onto a node and then cover the node with soil . Cuttings would not be very reliable since annuals such as cucurbits are prone to rot and are short lived . The same issues are present and relevant for layers but it is still possible . As for the reasons you are interested . When " garden plants " germinate from the seed of plants that were planted the previous year they almost always have reverted to the traits of one or a combination less desirable of its parent plants . For example your cucumber , it has large leaves and grows rapidly . How many flowers have you observed and has it set fruit ? My guess is that you have seen few if any flowers . Hence , one of the parent plants had the same attributes and was a poor fruit producer . The other parent was much slower growing and had smaller leaves . But , it flowered prolifically and produced moderately sized fruit that was tasty but , had lower sugar content because of retarded growth and smaller leaves . A cross of the two was made and the results produced a plant with medium sized leaves enough flowers to produce a sizable crop that was above average in size and The results of such crosses is called Hybrid Vigor , this is what plant propagators are trying to attain when they breed in this manner . I stated the above not to discourage you but to keep you from being disappointed if things do not " turn out " with your volunteer plant . Like Save May 13 , 2009 soulreaver Thanks for your help . The plant has tons of flowers . The seeds I use were all heirloom and I believe that the particular seed that plant came from just had a beneficial genetic mutation . So you really think there is next to 0 % chance of using a cutting ? I want to find a way to make lots of this plant type . If I used the seeds from this plant then it would be alot less reliable since each seed would be slightly different right ? May 13 , 2009 hortus_custodis No problem , since it was an heirloom it may produce seed that is usable . Heirlooms are a little different in that they are specifically bred to produce fruit and reliable seed . It is one of the reasons that heirloom vegetables are gaining popularity . The chances of making cuttings are small . There are physiological constraints that come into play . Again , this is an annual plant and they have very soft tissue making it more prohibitive . If the plant is the offspring of heirloom plants the chances are increased for getting good and reliable seed . There are too many factors to list here that will determine that . If you have the time , patience and desire then it may be worth it . The change in my stance is due to the addition of the heirloom progenitor ( s ) information . Thanks for your time and explanations hortus . Right now I grow and sell to a local nursery . All of my plants are organic and heirloom . My seeds came from Seed Savers Exchange . This is my first year attempting to clone plants though so I am a bit new at it . So are you telling me to just save the seeds from it and really not attempt to do cuttings ? I know all seeds are slightly different from the parent but since this plant is so vigorous does that mean that a good chunk of the seedlings will share most of the genetic traits of the parent plant and that I should collect the seeds and simply thin out whatever does n ' t appear to have positive mutations next year ? By doing this will I continue to make my heirloom cucumber plants stronger and stronger each year ? Thanks for all the advice . For the cucumbers cuttings are not feasible . Without knowing a great deal more about the parents and the genetics I can not say how many . But , seed collection and then selection of seedlings is your best bet . Try doing some research on breeding plants and then pollination by hand for selected seed production . It is time consuming and tedious but yields are more reliable and you know what is what , if you will . The selective pollination and selection of parents will yield more reliable . It gets very " deep " very quickly . If you are serious it can also get into some serious record keeping and a lot of work . Letting " nature take its course " is unreliable and will yield far fewer positive results . Most of what you are seeing are not likely to be mutations as such . It is far more likely to be Dominant v . recessive genetics . It will require some reading and study to understand and to get " good " and manipulating the genes . Mendel would be a basic start . May 14 , 2009 Sign Up to Comment | [
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http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/2116960/roasting-jalapenos | Roasting Jalapenos Comments ( 10 ) jason541 I recomend pre - heating you charcoal or gas grill to high ( I prefer charcoal ) using the " three second rule " . When ready to cook place whole peppers on the grate and grill until charred on all sides ( about 4 - 6min a side ) . When done place in baking dish and cover with pastic wrap untill cool . This will help peel the skin off . When cool using the tip of a paring or butter knife scrape off burnt skin and then cut flesh from core and slice or cut as needed You can also roast your tomatoes and tomatillos this way which then you can make some tasty salsa . Good Luck ! ! ! Jason Like Save July 8 , 2009 tn_veggie_gardner Good to know ! = ) I ' d probably be asking this same question in a few weeks . . .lol . Like Save July 8 , 2009 justaguy2 I am pretty sure the jalapenos I have had in restaurants still have the skin on . Could be wrong though . It is nice when they are served instead of the very good , but much more common pickled ones . medcave You can also roast them under the broiler in your oven . Leave the door cracked so they do n ' t vaporize . No need to discard all the blackened bits either . . . lots of good flavor there . pepper_d0g I just saw a Bobbie Flay show on the Food Network . He covered his jalapenos and poblanos with olive oil and put them in the oven at 400 degrees for 20 mins . I have n ' t tried this yet myself but his looked pretty good when he took them out of the oven . July 9 , 2009 Suzi AKA DesertDance So CA Zone 9b Well , if you are going to heat up the oven , cut them almost to the stem , clean out the spines and seeds , stuff them with cream cheese & mozarella cheese , wrap them in half strips of bacon , and YUM ! ! July 9 , 2009 organic_dusty I own a Chile Grille and you place the peppers in the holes after they have had the seeds taken out and you can either roast them in the oven at 350 or on the grill . The best part is that it is made of stainless steel and you stand the jalapenos up and fill them with the filling of your choice . Tonight we had mammoths and regular jalapenos filled with corn meal and cheese . . .it was yummy sometimes we fill them with shrimp and lay a piece of bacon over them or stuff them with Dusty Here is a link that might be useful : iron desert dvdgzmn If you want to roast a lot of them , use the broiler . If you want to roast just 4 - 6 and have a gas stove you can use a diffuser . It looks like a steel ping pong paddle with holes in it , and if there is a Mexican or asian store that carries kitchen items near you , you can pick one up for about $ 5 . http : / / www . amazon . com / gp / product / B0000X6ESO / ref = pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_2 ? pf_rd_p = 304485901&pf_rd_s = lpo - top - stripe - 1&pf_rd_t = 201&pf_rd_i = B0001ZI01A&pf_rd_m = ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r = 0HFWBNJR3137AEZZDAS6 Just place it over a burner on high heat , put the peppers on top , and give them a turn when they turn black on the bottom . Do n ' t turn them too often . You want them to char , not cook evenly . Not so good for juicy items like tomatoes and tomatillos . Use the broiler . megan_anne Habaneros are excellent roasted , as well . I like to wrap de - seeded and deveined habbies or other peppers up in foil with or without " grill seasoning " and pop them out on the grill with my meat ( especially chicken ) . I roast them for just long enough for the peppers to be tender . Believe it or not , almost - ripe green habs that have a blush or streaks of red or orange are SIMPLY DELICIOUS like this . The heat is still there , but roasting seems to let the heat " smoulder " subtly at first so that you can actually taste the pepper before the fireworks start . And surprisingly , hickory wood smoke complements habs very nicely - - probably because it ' s somewhat sweet . Enjoy ! ClarkeT My favorite way is to ' pan roast ' them on stove top burner . A good old cast iron skillet works great for this . I have a wonderfully shaped oblong flat cast iron fajita skillet that I use . But a round flat or sided will work just as well . You can do them dry or use some olive oil . I prefer in olive oil . Heat the olive oil on medium high to high flame . Place them on the pan and roll them around to coat with the olive oil . Roast until they February 21 , 2011 Sign Up to Comment | [
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http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/2153879/inkberry-bushes-turning-black | Inkberry bushes turning black ? Comments ( 9 ) waplummer Do n ' t ask me . I have at least three times managed to kill inkberries . but , I am not giving up . Last week I bought another one . 1 Like Save July 2 , 2004 Andrea_in_KS Following up rather late - - I just searched GardenWeb to see if anyone else was having this problem , and I found this description , which sounds just like what ' s happening in my yard . Last spring I planted two inkberry hollies on the north side of my house . One did exactly what creekhouse describes : turned black from the inside , then died . I replaced it this spring , and the same thing is now happening to it . I checked the soil when I replanted it to see if I had missed something The only thing I can think of is that it ' s sensitive to black walnut . Nowhere can I find any research stating that Ilex glabra is sensitive to juglone , but I ' m about out of other theories to explain why one has died twice in this spot , while the one I planted six feet away ( further from the black walnut tree ) is doing OK . Conditions are similar for both of them ; if anything , the one that died gets more afternoon sun , but the pattern of leaf death is not If anyone has any thoughts or advice on this matter , I ' d greatly appreciate it . Many thanks . 1 Like Save May 6 , 2005 truegrey i am having this problem wiht my Ilex glabra . the nursury told me it was a fungus problem . so i bought some fungicide from them ( and they made even more money off of me ) , but online i found a reference to foliar burning and that harsh winters can do this . the online reference said that the leaves all turned brown / black , but then new growth appeared , and in several months was fine . what is strange is that all the Ilex glabra on my block have this , but to a much less degree than my 2 . now the one i have that has it the most IS less shaded from the wind . . .so maybe it is exposure . . . any ideas anyone ? 2 Likes April 22 , 2007 grammytmc We have three Ilex glabra that we planted last spring . They are now , have brown splotches , the leaves are turning yellow , then brown and the whole stem is dying . I sprayed them with a fungus killer , hoping that will help . If anyone has any suggestions , please post , asap . thanks Like May 9 , 2007 carlaclaws Unfortunately , Phytophthora cinnamomi ( a fungal infection ) is showing up on Ilex glabra . So far , I have only seen problems with the cultivar " Shamrock , " a female that is supposedly a seedling selection . Previously , Ilex crenata ( the Japanese holly ) was shown to be susceptible . ' Shamrock ' is being sold as a purebred seedling selection of Ilex glabra . I certainly hope that is truly the case . Here is a link that might be useful : First Report of Phytophthora cinnamomi on Ilex glabra in Virginia October 23 , 2013 David Davis This is so sad ! I have 12 young inkberry that I made some nice little hedges out of two years ago . They struggled the first year so I dig them all out and did a deep amending of the soil , mulching , watering and now they are just covered in black spot . At one point we used cocoa bean shell mulch that suspected grew some kind of mold . They were NOT cheap these shrubs . And it was a ridiculous amount of back breaking work to make them happy . So disappointed . Like April 11 , 2018 rogerlamarca I bought 8 and leaves are turning black , planted two months ago and watered regularly . How can I save thise bushes . September 2 , 2018 carlaclaws truegrey , Ilex glabra ( like many broadleaf evergreens ) is susceptible to scorch ( foliar burn ) when hit with early sun on cold winter mornings . In zone 7 , where I live , many benefit from being protected from sun until at least 10 : 00 a.m. or so . The scorch usually occurs when temperatures dip below about 17 degrees , which causes the foliage to wilt , and the sun hits the plant at the coldest time of the day . September 2 , 2018 Conor MacDonald , Rhode Island , z6b I am experiencing this in Rhode Island , with a beautiful and kind of expensive Shamrock bought from a decent nursery in MA last year . Black spots , then entire stems , then the branch dies . I am so dissapointed — it fills a critical spot right by the front door and is the only thing that keeps its green through the year while everything else goes dingy by late february . i understand that it is now in the soil and it ’ s unwise to plant anything else succeptibke in its place — which is all October 14 , 2018 Sign Up to Comment | [
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http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/2165862/tomatoes-getting-rot-spots-on-them-as-soon-as-they-turn-green | Tomato Pests & Diseases Tomatoes getting rot spots on them as soon as they turn green bobbyg318 June 12 , 2006 My tomatoes are getting rot spots on them when they turn green . Is this a fungus or what . I ' ve been told to use epson salt . My plants did the same thing last year . The epson did not do much good . Email Save Comment 7 Like Comments ( 7 ) cbars Is it a dry brown patch on the bottom of the tomato ? What has your weather been like lately ? Are your tomatoes planted in a garden or containers ? What varieties do you have planted ? Gary Like Save June 12 , 2006 tawana I am having the same problem . . .large bown rotten spots on the bottom of tomatoes , both green and while ripening . I wish I new the answer . .the same happens to me every year . June 26 , 2006 torquill The answer is that it ' s not a disease . : ) I ' m not trying to be frustrating . . . but what you describe is what we refer to as BER , or Blossom End Rot . It ' s caused by a physiological problem , not a pathogen . So you do n ' t have to spray anything to get rid of it . You ' ll hear people say that BER is caused by a calcium deficiency , and suggest burying eggshells or spraying with epsom salts ; sprays are specifically sold to help . None of those work ( really , none do ) . The reason is that while it is caused by a lack of calcium , the problem is n ' t that the soil does n ' t have enough , it ' s that the plant ca n ' t get it to the end of the fruit for one reason or another . Spraying the fruits There are a few reasons why the plant ca n ' t transport enough calcium , but almost all of them are water - related . The most common is irregular watering - - the plant is going dry , or it ' s getting too much water followed by not enough . The second - most common reason is that the plants just are n ' t big enough to keep up yet - - it happens a lot early on , when the demand on the root system is really high and it just ca n ' t What to do ? Mulch , give them a little less water more often to even out moisture levels , and wait . Plants which are watered enough generally grow out of it , though varieties differ in how susceptible they are . Now that I ' ve typed out all of this ( I hate being terse even with frequently asked questions like this one ) you can find an entry on BER in the FAQ for the main Growing Tomatoes forum . - - Alison who has a little here too , with the nasty heatwave we had , but at least the BER greenies let me know when the undamaged ones will ripen . . . they ripen first because of the damage . When I see yellow on the ones with BER , I know the rest are only a few days behind . June 27 , 2006 tedp2 Dr . Carolyn Male listed one other thing that could cause BER . Too high acid content in the soil . I have twice fixed this problem by side dressing with one or two tablespoons of powdered lime . It takes about two weeks . Of course it might have stopped on it ' s own in that time . Lol Now I mix a little lime in the soil when I transplant the tomatos and had not had any BER for years until last year when we had an unusually wet May and June . The local agricultural extension service advises the farmers to broadcast 3 - 4 tons of lime per acre every three to four years . Get dolomitic lime if you can as it has magnesium as well as calcium June 28 , 2006 torquill Ah , missed that one . Acid soil is a totally foreign concept to a California gardener . : ) Thanks for picking that one up . Lots of people think it ' s the calcium in the lime doing the trick , but low pH can indeed bind the available calcium so hard in the soil that it ca n ' t move . Anything you can do to correct the pH will help in that case . - - Alison June 28 , 2006 ezbnme40 I ' m in Oklahoma and the brown spots are near the stem not the bottom is this ebr ? July 9 , 2015 sheilajoyce_gw For the past two years , I have avoided BER here in southern California by saving all my egg shells in the spring and summer in a bowl by the sink . When the bowl gets full , I whirl them in a quart of water in the blender and dump the contents on the tomato plants , hosing out the dredges over the plants too . I think I will start saving egg shells year round here . July 27 , 2015 Sign Up to Comment | [
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http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/2184490/fruits-of-cuba | Tropical Fruits Fruits of Cuba franktank232 June 21 , 2007 I noticed an article in the nytimes about a guy living in Cuba and trying to eat what they eat ( monthly rationed food ) . I just liked the part when he talked about the fruit @ the large market in Havana : " I ' ve lived in Latin America for nearly 15 years , and in all my travels I ' ve never seen some of the exotic fruits I ' ve found on this Caribbean island . In Cuba , there are the typical mangos , papayas , pineapples and an assortment of bananas - - tiny yellow ones as long as my pinky , medium yellows and small reds , like the ones I once saw growing wild in the mountains of Guatemala . That does n ' t even count the numerous plantains , which the Cubans do n ' t consider fruit , frying and mashing them as an accompaniment to savory dishes instead of potatoes . The larger farmers markets are also stocked with citrus - - grapefruits , tiny round limes , sweet mandarin oranges , regular sweet juice oranges , and sour oranges that Cubans use to make their ' ' mojos ' ' ( MOH - johs ) - - a marinade with onions , garlic and spices for poultry and meats . Most popular of all fruits here seems to be the popular brown - skinned mamey ( mah - MEYH ) , whose bright orange pulp is sometimes eaten for gastrointestinal ailments . Also popular are the tiny mamoncillos ( mah - monh - SEE - yohs ) , which at first glance look like small limes . Cuban kids love to crack open the hard green shell like an egg to get at the orange pulp inside . Less common is the brown nispero ( NEES - peh - roh ) , known in some other Latin countries as a zapote negro ( zah - POH - teh neh - GROH ) . More unusual still is the light - green cherimoya ( cher - ee - MOY - yah ) , whose skin is covered with flat , rounded bumps that look like overlapping petals . The cherimoya is also known in English as a custard apple for the custard - like texture of its white pulp . Related to the cherimoya is the guanabana ( guah - NAH - bah - nah ) , or soursop in English , whose light - green skin is covered in spikes instead of petals . Although more commonly grown in drier climes , small pomegranates are occasionally seen in Cuban markets . Known here as granadas ( grah - NAH - dahs ) , they have scores of seeds that look like bright red jewels and can stain a kid ' s face and clothes within seconds after being popped out of the papery white pulp inside . Also sold in markets , but seemingly unknown to many Cubans , is the yellowish - green star fruit known in other parts of Latin America as the carambola ( cahr - ahm - BOH - lah ) and here is called a ciruela china ( sehr - WEAH - lah ) or Chinese plum . Other exotic Cubans include the round , super sweet reddish - purple caimito ( kahi - MEE - toh ) , which some English speakers call a star apple . " LINK Email Save Comment 2 Like Comments ( 2 ) Eggo Thanks for the link frank . I may visit Cuba after reading that article . = ) Like Save June 25 , 2007 suckyoctopus_yahoo_com I like trains ! January 14 , 2011 Sign Up to Comment | [
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http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/2201855/wall-covering-creeping-fig-questions | Wall Covering Creeping Fig Questions Comments ( 15 ) julia_123 I would recommend planting a scarlet runner bean vine . . .they grow like crazy and love to cover things . : ) Plus , butterflies love the flowers and I believe that the beans are edible . I would get 2 or 3 big pots and plant the vines in there . My only concern with drilling holes in concrete and sticking the plants in there is that there is no possibility for the roots to grow and spread and there would be no drainage . . . Like Save June 20 , 2005 Ron_B The bigger the better , using spacing recommended for creeping fig planted in open ground . This plant will definitely cover masonry , even growing upside down ( on a ceiling ) . Like Save June 20 , 2005 watergrass I just want to add a note of caution if you decide to go with the creeping fig - this plant is a monster ! One year , I planted 3 vines along a 5 ' high by 60 ' wide wall , in about 2 seasons , they managed to cover my entire wall , turned the corner to the adjacent wall , AND they jumped over to completely cover my neighbor side of the wall , too . Nothing can beat the look of a creeping fig covered wall , but unless you plan to trim it regularly June 21 , 2005 vinelover Mine must be a slow grower then , lol . Its been in the ground 3 + years and has just begun to make a move . 2 Likes June 21 , 2005 thebigsee I planted creeping fig on my cinderblock walls - - it was strange as it started to grow but never would grab onto the wall and would fall down - - then , about 3 years in , it started grabbing and has covered about 60 % of my original plan . It is growing vigorously now but not kudzu - like - - I ' m in L.A. so it gets limited water . If I was in someplace where it rains alot , I can only imagine how fast they could grow . Question - - does this plant form from cuttings easily ? I ' d like to plant it in another area and thought I ' d give it a shot . . . 1 Like June 26 , 2005 jeanneckelly I ' m in LA as well and my creeping fig wo n ' t attach either . Does anyone have any advice on coercing it to attach itself and / or how to realistically keep it up until it does grab hold on it ' s own . We have a mesh net up now but it ' s hard to keep it close enough to the wall to really work and it completely prohibits edging . Help ! Thanks ! 2 Likes June 22 , 2006 padilla90242_AIM_COM I also live in L.A. and ourS is also growing slowly . You need to water the wall that you ' d like them to attach to . Preferably in the evening . We have two walls and the one that has the least sun exposure is the one that we ' ve succeeded with . 1 Like April 15 , 2008 jcf3682 I live in the San Joaquin Valley just North of LA in California . My father and I have been messing around with Creeping Fig Vines for about 8yrs . Here are a few FAQs that might help people out . Here in California things like block walls get VERY hot this does n ' t entice the vine to cling , also the lye in the masonry repels the roots / vine . So that might be why some have had successes with constantly watering their block walls down , keeping it cool and washing that chalky white layer January 19 , 2009 cactusgardener I have a question : I planted creeping fig on block wall fence about 7 yrs . ago and it grew like Topsy ; now this summer it just died ! Will it come back or should I chop the dead stuff down and start all over ? I live in Tucson and baby , it ' s hot this summer ! But newer creeping vines on another part of the wall are doing great and they all get the same amount of water from a drip . July 27 , 2010 lspires001_cfl_rr_com i planted 30 of these for ground cover last march and they were just starting to take off when we had a 1 day freeze . i thought these were cold hardy plants but they all turned brown down to the ground January 3 , 2011 peter_shair17_gmail_com Question ; I have an old rusty metal fence ( wire is about spagetti thickness ) , with metal wire approx . 2 " x 2 " on center . If I plant creeping fig and intertwine the existing vines through the fence , should the vines be expected to grab hold , grow , and eventually cover the fence ? March 3 , 2011 Justin Wiley Suggestions on how to have creeping stick and grow on a vinyl privacy fence ? January 30 , 2016 bethcorcoran I have an ugly midcentury modern decorative cinder block wall that someone put in front of my Med Miami Beach home . I want to plant fig on the inside and have it creep through to the street side , hoping that it will eventually cover this like panels . My landscaper believes that creeping fig will only grow on solid wall and wo n ' t work on this type of open application . Any comments or suggestions ? Im open to other vines also . March 2 , 2016 Kelley Dockrey Ithe should have no problem growing on your cinder blocks . Is it not a solid surface ? You may want to help it attach to the wall by using screws and nylon filament . The filament is strung between two screwa and then one pokes the vine between the filament and the cinder block . September 21 , 2016 Kelley Dockrey Do people use electric hedgers to trim their creeping fig ? My gardener trims it with a hedge . While it does work , the leaves of creeping are left damaged and unsightly until I go in and trim the vine with shears and the dead leaves . I have about 150 ' of a 6 ' block wall covered in creeping fig . I ' m adding another 80 ' of a 6 ' block wall for the creeping fig to cover . Since the new 80 ' wall is not connected to the other wall , I will be starting with new creeping fig plants . In respect to thsee new plants , I want to plant them in 6 " PVC pipe that will extend into the soil about 4 ' . My intent is to have the roots grow down and then out . Ibe noted that the roots of of my existing creeping tend to grow out and pretty close to the soil surface , which is not an issue given where they are . The new wall is Has anybody used any method to control the creeping fig roots ? September 21 , 2016 Sign Up to Comment | [
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http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/2221756/getting-rid-of-poison-ivy | Woodlands Getting RID of Poison Ivy catherineOH May 30 , 2002 How do you KILL the stuff ? ! At the rear of our property we have woods . It is full of poison ivy . So , every time I mow the lawn , I am coming in contact with the stuff . Several weeks ago I became very ill - - lost my voice and ended up with a very nasty deep chest cough - - and the only thing I can figure is that I inhaled pioson ivy when I mowed . I am just wanting to kill the poison ivy at the edge of the woods . By the way , thank you , Thank you , THANK YOU ! ! ! to the person who suggested using hot water on the poison ivy rash . It works ! ! ! My second and third rashes were not nearly as bad and cleared up much sooner than the first . Do n ' t ask me how I keep getting it . I do that part of the yard last , then strip , shower , put the clothes in the washer , then rewash my arms very well . Email Save Comment 160 Like Comments ( 160 ) See 110 more comments deiscorides " what about a chain - saw ? " - takman NOOOO ! ! ! What ever you do never ever use a power tool to cut poison ivy vines . You ' ll instantly splatter the juice and oils all over the surrounding area and you . There is also the possiblity of raising a mist of juice in the air . If you inhale it you ' ll more than likely end up in the hospital . Same goes for any smoke from the burning vines . If you must cut it then use something low - tech and low - impact . Use long shears , tree limb shears , or other levering cutter . Cut slowly on any vine over 1 / 4th an inch . You should really go to the link I posted just above your post : http : / / www . poison - ivy . org / It tells all about PI and has stories from other people . There are also picuters of different looking poison ivy plants and pictures of what happens when people allergic to it come into contact with it . Remember , if you are not allergic to it and do not get the rash , your frineds and loved ones might . If you get the oils on you and then spread it around the house friend and family might not like that too well . Like Save May 24 , 2006 last modified : March 7 , 2015 cindyl_pivot_net Believe me . . this is a true story , last Tuesday May 16th . 2006 , I had surgery on my hand and all came out fine except , we ( the doc ' s and I ) thought I had a reaction to the meds because I broke out with a rash early the next morning on my face . . .red and blistery . . .well , I got to the local doc ' s office and they changes my meds ( we ' re still thinking surgery related ) for 2 days then Thursday , I met with the surgeon . .he thought it looked like poison ivy but we changed the meds again and he put a warm Cindy L . Jackson Maine May 25 , 2006 last modified : March 7 , 2015 salvatore1970 I ' ve just read almost every posting on the page and still have one question . I , like many of the posters , have a number of locust trees here in central VA with forearm - thick poison ivy vines growing 15 - 30 feet up them . I am planning on taking action against them using a low - impact method and taking all the necessary precautions . The question , however , is this : Once I deal with the vines by cutting them , can I use the above - mentioned products ( like Round Thanks in advance ! May 29 , 2006 landscaping I , too , have been successful at controlling poison ivy plants using Roundup ( also Ortho Brush - B - Gone . May 30 , 2006 Flowerkitty Do not get allergy shots , or vaccinations if you have a poison ivy rash or your body can overreact to the shot . Young box elder seedlings and shoots look a lot like poison ivy . The leaf form is almost identical . However box elder has 3 - leaflet sets opposite each other on the stem unlike poison ivy . A lot of poison ivy has reddish stems . regular , not ultra , Palmolive dish soap is very good to remove poison ivy , and it is n ' t as hard on the skin as Fels Naptha . I use Palmolive dishsoap diluted in water to clean my garden tools , followed by an oiling if needed . May 31 , 2006 plymplan We have been battling several acres of poison ivy here in New Hampshire for the past 5 years . We discovered that mowing does not do much if you only cut several times a year . Our goats help somewhat but they are browsers and are anything but thorough . We do n ' t believe in using chemicals so that option is out of the question . What has worked is hand pulling and intensive grazing . Root systems in certain areas seem to pull up easily and in no time we had mountains of roots drying in the sun . What little that does grow back can be easily pulled the next time round . In our pasture areas , putting lots of animals on a small space and allowing them to graze it down to putting green length has worked wonders . We got a new horse last spring who seems to enjoy eating poison ivy and would happily clean up whatever anyone else left behind . After just one summer , huge areas of persistent PI have vanished and only grass has returned this year . June 23 , 2006 benjo_ma I recently began helping a friend ' s mother reclaim her ~ 1 acre yard in southeast MA after many years of neglect after her divorce . I ' ve battled the dreaded PI for 2 summers , only about 4 times per summer and have had quite a bit of success . The Ivy was coming in from the neighbor ' s yard which is home to dozens of 5 - 8 " thick hairy monsters climbing 40 ' into unsuspecting trees and even up their garage . It was easy to track how it all spread , and the surrounding woods and stone walls are just smothered in the stuff . The first thing I did last year was suit up and saw through the neighbor ' s vines that were overhanging the yard , spreading thousands of berries annually . Some areas in the yard had vines growing up oak http : / / www . roundup . com / index . cfm / event / ProductGuide . product / documentId / c05f89183aca85e98c0310c4f823da48 with good / great results , and have since switched to their poison ivy killer which has 2 % Triclopyr ( what ' s in brush b gone ) and 18 % Glyphosate ( regular roundup ) : http : / / www . roundup . com / index . cfm / event / ProductGuide . product / documentId / 1c47822e380daf9bbdb20570cf00d81b which does a little better job on larger woodier runners . I would probably have used Brush B Gone , but I never happened upon it at stores , and the less potent products were working quite well . I used almost double the potency suggested for the super concentrate , and found it worked quite a bit better than regular dilution . I should note that these both claim " rainproof in 30 minutes " , and this seems to be nearly true . I had it rain pretty hard about 45 minutes after I finished spraying , and everything I sprayed that day still died in 2 weeks . There is still work involved in collecting the dead branches off of trees and a shed , and we ' re throwing down a good 4 " of loam over most of the areas previously covered by low runners to avoid bagging a half acre of dead PI , but I have not had one itch due to PI ( although many due to mosquito bites while out in the yard ) . I ' m confident I can teach my friend ' s mother to spray any new plants , and I can assure her she wo n ' Anyway , the PI problem is under control now , but will never really disappear from that yard until new neighbors appear and all the surrounding woodland is transformed into suburbia . I ' ll take the PI any day . June 28 , 2006 mikimo What do I do after I spray PI with Round Up ? When is it safe for people to walk through or play in the area ? I do n ' t know if I ' m allergic or not but my husband and at least one of my five children are . I afraid to let my children ( all under nine ) go near the trees in our yard until I know it ' s safe . I ' ve been spraying over the past month and most of the leaves are brown . July 16 , 2006 jdinnh After a childhood of seemingly being ammune to PI - - we used to walk through patches of it at my grandparents cottage in Northern Ontario - - I have had repeated brushes with it the last couple of summers in Southern NH . There ' s about a 10 - 15 wide by 50 - 60 foot long patch of it immediately behind ( which used to extend onto ) my yard . Apparently , we must also have the vine and / or bush varieties around here too , as 2 of the cases I have gotten over The Rhuli gel someone spoke about above - - rebranded by J&J as Oak & Ivy Calagel - - will work to dry your rash out . But it did n ' t seem to do much for the itch . Two things that have successfully kept the itch down are ( 1 ) an antihistamine every 6 - 8 hours & ( 2 ) Gold Bond Extra Strength lotion - - in the green bottle , about $ 7 at Wal - Mart for a 14 oz pump . A healty application of the lotion will soothe the itch My experience seems to suggest that washing with dishsoap after you come in is also helpful . I always scrub my hands and forearms with dishsoap and a nail cleaning brush when I come in from doing anything in the garden . None of my PI rash has been below the elbows . What I am wondering , though , is whether you can use " plant warfare " as a long - term solution ? In effect , crowd out the plants by introducing something else ( the same way purple loostrife takes over in marshes ) ? ? The area with the PI is n ' t on my property , so I ' m not about to go plant and maintain grass there , or put a lot of time and money into spraying it to oblivion . So I ' m interested in some other low / no - For instnace , daylillies grow and multiply very well here . A couple of rhyzomes can grow into a dense ball of fibrous roots in just a couple of years . Based on the transplanting I ' ve done ( I ' ve harvested all of my lily plants from the side of the road ! ) , they seem tough as nails and will grow ( though not flower , or flower as much ) in full shade and a wide variety of soil & moiture conditions . But would they outcompete the PI ? ? ? ? September 15 , 2006 stcroix Hello everyone ! This has been a goldmine of information . I ' ve been taking notes on what to do to protect us and kill the poison ivy from our yard . My husband has had several cases of p.i. outbreak since his initial one several years ago and on the last one he had driven his riding lawnmower too close to our fig trees and scratched his arm pretty bad . To our surprise he developed a severe case of poison ivy from that ! We found out that fig tree is in the same family or related somehow . We Paula October 31 , 2006 jupie47 we have poison oak , which is similar . i ' m from minnesota , though , and we had it there in abundance . i work outdoors , doing restoration of native habitat , and come into contact nearly daily with poison oak . here ' s my advice : 1 ) when exposed , use Technu ( hardware stores usually sell it ) to removal the oils , but this must be done within one hour of exposure because the oils soak into the dermal layer ( below the outer surface of your skin ) by then , and you ' ll get the rash regardless of how well you scrub . follow the directions ( apply soap to skin before water , etc . ) . i usually do it twice . the forearms are very absorbent and you can get a case systemically because of all the 2 ) foliar application of roundup to PO ( poison oak ) does n ' t usually have 100 % efficacy because it ' burns ' the leaves without translocation into the root / stem tissue well enough to kill the plant . i recommend using a cut - stump application ( cut the stem , then paint on the chemical immediately ) . MAKE SURE YOU WEAR NITRILE GLOVES . latex does n ' t provide a sufficient barrier for herbicides . the label will tell you what " personal protective equipment " is necessary . there are other * NOTE : the formulation available commercially is much stronger than roundup pro , so i recommend looking up the MSDS / label on the web and reading the entire thing . you should know what you ' re spreading in the environment , especially if you have wildlife or water nearby . a dilution may be necessary , and the label will give directions by species ( or call the toll - free info number and ask them ) . * November 29 , 2006 papasmithnc It has been mentioned a couple of times by others with no response so let me try it again . For small patches of poison Ivy , just cover it up with a large tarp . Even posion ivy can not live without light . Round up works as well as the often mentioned brush killer but , it must be made into a stronger concentration . If you buy the super concentrated formulation in the larger sizes , a gallon or more , it is much cheaper than the brush killer . Try putting full strength Round Up immediately December 15 , 2006 nywoodsman The insidious poison ivy vine sneaks up a tree . Oh , the humanity ! { { gwi : 1354137 } } January 25 , 2007 itchy_2007 Very informative thread - - I ' ve learned a lot . My specific question concerns the aerial PI vines , thick and hairy , that have attached to our tallest pines and go way up . I have a healthy respect for this nasty stuff and plan to kill it with triclopyr , then dig the roots ( although I am amazed at how the roots travel and branch out . This will be a long - term project ) , bag them , and take them to the dump . BUT HOW TO GET RID OF THE HAIRY Thanks , Itchy_2007 February 6 , 2007 paleo6 This is what I do and it works . I buy generic Round - Up ( glyphosate ) in 41 % concentrate ( that is the common agricultural pre - blend strength ) . You can buy it most often in 2.5ga containers at Farm stores ( TSC , Farm&Fleet , etc ) . With Monsanto ' s patent on glyphosate expired this chemical has dramatically come down in price . I would never buy " Round - Up " again at a Lowe ' s or Home Depot , WalMart , etc . Not when generic is so cheap . You may be able to find it this I add water to the 41 % glypho to achieve a 5 % concentration ( the booklet that comes with the container gives measures . I then spray all ground PI with this 5 % mix . I have also added a couple table - spoons per gallon of Tide non - sudsing detergent as a surfactant additive to help the plants absorb the spray . 5 % kills all ground cover PI within 10days to two weeks . . .quicker if done during real hot weather . A 4 % mix will do it too but not as effectively . For the long ropy vertical vines - - - - and I have plenty of them ( or HAD plenty ) - - - I use a long machete to sever the vine close to the base . I then used a small hand held commercial - grade sprayer to apply the pure glyphosate ( the 41 % concentrate ) to the cut stump . I do most of my vine PI work in mid to late July after the flowers have set . . . .and then right up to about October 1st . I then just leave the vines to rot off the tree . It takes about 3yrs . I have gotten a rash from these dead vines in the second year after the treatment . . . .but it seems to be mild dose . Sometimes with this ropy vine treatment I ' ll go back the following summer and give the base of the tree a quick spray of 5 With the ground cover PI I spray whenever the new leaves are bright green and glossy . Again , I try to pick a hot day . . . .as it appears to aid in the plant ' s absorption of the chemical . Your normal precautions when handling chemicals or PI apply : With the machete I button my collar & cuffs , wear good gloves , a bandana around my exposed neck , and keep a bottle of water in my back pocket for a quick wash in case a flying PI chip hits my face . And then as far as the rash : Yes , hot water is cheap & quick relief . But nothing works ( for me ) like Zanfel . PS . . . .for those folks who grasp the roots and pull them out by hand . . . . .well , good luck . I would n ' t try that on a bet . . .ever . The only contact I want with PI is at the end of the machete . February 21 , 2007 sheryl_ontario Swimming in a commercial chlorine pool work great to dry it up fast . I used to work at a pool and saw this all the time , as well as experiencing it myself . It ' s not just a dab as you would do with bleach on a cloth , when you go swimming you are in there foar at least 1 / 2 hour . March 4 , 2007 seamus2001 A friend told me that you could kill poison ivy plants by spraying them with a mixture of ivory liquid soap and water . I have read most of the posts on this site and have not seen anything about such a remedy . Is this an urban myth , or is there something to it . Thanks . May 8 , 2007 bluebars Ivory liquid soap and water . . .hmmm . . . I doubt it . But hey , try it and let us know . If it does n ' t work , at least the PI will be very clean . May 15 , 2007 gueman I might have discovered the ultimate PI killer , as well as other weeds . I am in the draft beer service business , and I decided to try my draft line cleaner , along with some salt and dish soap . Just to see what would happen . Well , I was overjoyed with the results . I made the first application late in the afternoon , and the next morning the leaves were brown on the tips and starting to shrivel . So a few days later , I made another application in the early am . By June 7 , 2007 trillionbill if you go to www . oralivy . com you can buy an extract to take before the season starts , and it will elinate or greatley reduce the effects . there ia also a lotion over the counter thatis appproved by the us food and drug admin . call bentoquatam that you apply on exposed skin 15 minute before coming in contac with poision ivy . i am a slow typer sorry . have a great day and hopes this helps July 10 , 2007 ndsmpeace We have a few plants and some runners at our church . I sprayed it today with RoundUp , but I ' m wondering what else I can do . I can not tear it down because I ' m so allergic to it . The runners have grown on an abandoned house ' s siding and are growing sideways on this house . I sprayed the stuff out of ' em with the Roundup , but wonder what more I need to do . The RoundUp I bought was in a large container , ran about $ 13 and I * have * to get rid of this stuff . We will be tearing the abandoned house down this coming spring . Any advice ? And also what do I do with the vines and such that we pulled from the house and had planned on burning ? Thanks ! BTW , we are * not * going to burn it now , due to the wonderful advice y ' all gave . It ' s hard to believe how deadly this stuff can be ! August 3 , 2007 tglass1999 Hi . .i am new here and have read all the wonderful things and ways to kill the poison ivy . I know it is so hard to kill and i sure do wish some company would come out with something that would only kill the PI . The house next door to me has a lot of PI and this summer with the strong storm we had it knocked down the tree that had at least a 2 - 3 inch vines on it . I was glad to see that part of the PI gone but he has I am like most of you here highly allergic to PI and i do get severe cases like tis yr i got it and then i got the hives with it also and it took about a month to get over it . That sure was no fun at all and expensive too going back and forth to the Dr . I wil have to say that i have used the BRUSH BE GONE FOR PI AND ROUND UP HERE and i can tell you that if you use it a couple of yrs in a row the PI gets use to it . I have been fighting this PI for a lot of yrs now . . .i use not to be allergic to it but had gotten my first case about 10 yrs ago or so and the dr told me that what happens is that our imune system changes when we get older and i have found that I am going to try some of the things i have read here to try and get rid of the PI on my property . . . . .BUT I SURE DO HOPE THAT SOMEONE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT WE COULD BUY TO GET RID OF IT PERMANENTLY AFTER ONE SEASON . LET ME KNOW IF ANY FINDS ANYTHING OUT . . September 8 , 2007 ryner Ok , I ' m going to try this again . . . to Brightwood and anyone else with a PI rash , Thank you so much ! ! ! ! I have been up all night in tears with the severe itch of poison ivy that I got in the woods chasing a runaway kid ( I work at a residential treatment facility ) . Nothing had worked including the Ivy Dry my avid gardner father swears by and the doc ' s scripts . I went to an all night CVS and picked up ZANFEL . YOU ARE MY HERO . Honest to goodness . I have no more itch . I can actually sleep . I really can not thank you enough ! It ' s expensive , but totally worth it ! Thank you thank you thank you ! Bless you , and have a wonderful and PI free day November 10 , 2007 kfisher Hi I am new to this site and have found it to be very helpful . I personally ahve never had a reaction to PI and I am 41 But my husband gets it 4 - 5 times a year . He has a very bad case right now . He has gone to the doctors and got a shot and 2 meds . After he got the shot the rash has gotten so much worse . Anyone know why ? He just put the medicated powder on it and he says that works better than the cream he got December 8 , 2007 hooper84_24_7 I have never had a rash b / c I have only seen the plant about 3 times until recently . I learned what it looked like in scouts , and have heard horror stories from my parents , so I have always stayed way clear of it , until recently while doing some long overdue yard work for my great aunt . My great Aunt has about 15 HUGE rose bushes in back of her house , growing up about 2 / 3 of the 3 story house , extending about 20 ft into the yard , about 8ft tall at the edge , and severely infested with Poisen Ivy . I do n ' t wish to kill the rose bushes but I will if I have to . . .A group of kids decided to pick flowers for their moms for the 4th of July , and ALL got bad rashes . If anybody has ANY advice to save the bushes but out the IVY , please let me know . . . .and thankyou all for your time July 10 , 2008 walkera Now that I am working on getting rid of my poison ivy , any suggestions on how to prevent my neighbor ' s PI from encroaching ? He ' s trying , too , but it does n ' t seem to be a committed effort . July 31 , 2008 melana3bear Poison Ivy is covering my fence line at my new home and I have three dogs who love to roll in it and rub against it and then against me . I do not want to have to be washing them down each and every time they come in from outside . But I am highly sensitive to all the poison plants so right now I am battling a rash that will not go away went to doctor and am now on the steroid pills and tropical cream treatment . My immune system has no defense over them any more , each outbreak last longer and is more severe and I do not want to be on steroids for the rest of my life . I read in the earlier posting where pureeing the Impatients plants except for the roots and boiling them and using it as a suave to help with get rid of the rash But has anyone tried this concoction as a way of eliminating the plants themselves ? What about pouring the concoction directly on the existing poison ivy plants to kill the bushes and vines has anyone tried this ? ? Do you think it would help eliminate the bushes and keep them from coming back ? I was also thinking about planting the Impatients next to my fence line where the poison Ivy is so that the Impatients take over that area , do you think it would coke out the ivy prevent them from coming back ? ? Has anyone tried this ? I am thinking of sacrificing some Impatients tonight if I can find some , my friend also suggested just pouring boiling water on the plants to kill them might try that too . Thinking outside the box here and need some old time remedies and solutions , I dont do the chemicals around my animals if I can help it . August 25 , 2008 yard_master Use the new Round Up Poison Ivy spray . .It works . I have ivy all around my house and have used the Round up . It killed the plant and killed the other ivy plants that are connected . .This spray has been a god send . May 21 , 2009 jannettewilliams I think that anyone who pulls poison ivy with their bare hands or even gloved hands and advises others to do the same thing is not very sensitive to poison ivy . I have a poison ivy root growing in my favorite lettuce bed and will have to find another place to plant lettuce or kill the root because I have now gotten a rash twice from planting lettuce there both times . Someone has asked what to do with the hairy vines that grow up the trees . Others have described elaborate and expensive plans to rid many acres April 25 , 2010 mertsie I have personally found Round Up to be of no big help . The poision ivy just keeps coming back . The BEST course of action I have taken that has worked wonders is using a garden rake - with about 4 metal tines ? I take it and rake near the poision ivy in all directions around it . This inevitably pulls up the vine that is connected and running on the surface of the ground but is hidden from my sight by grass / weeds . I keep pulling ! This usually takes me to another poision ivy The stuff on my property has all grown in this manner , and if yours is similar you should have luck with this technique . Only AFTER pulling up the roots ( I wrap them around the rake while pulling ) , I spray them with round up and bag them in a garbage bag . DO N ' T burn them ! It spread the oil in the air and is dangerous . Good luck ! April 26 , 2010 brandon7 TN_zone Mertsie , I ' ve had excellent results getting rid of poison ivy with RoundUp . The generic glyphosate is much less expensive if you have to tackle a large area . If RoundUp did n ' t work for you , I ' d guess that either your mixture was too weak ( never use the premixed , ready - to - spray stuff recommended for easy - to - kill grass ) or your RoundUp was bad ( old , contaminated by dirty mixing water , etc ) . Also , time of year can make some difference . My April 26 , 2010 charles_2010_2010 For those of you who do n ' t know , poison ivy can be transmitted to the skin via air , ( wind ) smoke , and probably in other ways . You do not have to touch it to get a good dose of it . I have it in my woods too , and found that Round - up will work to kill it out , but you have to give it about three good doses . I also found out that when I have touched the plant , or otherwise come in contact with it , May 16 , 2010 brandon7 TN_zone I ' d suggest at least taking a good shower before getting into the hottub . I ' ve hard of people spreading the urushiol in the tub . I can just imagine introducing it into a hottub and then having a family member jump in and get it on them . I have no idea if / how chlorine would break up the urushiol , but it would n ' t " kill " it . Urushiol is an oil and is n ' t alive . Maybe the chlorine could provide some " degreasing " effect ; I May 17 , 2010 aiannar974 has anyone had success in choking poison ivy out with plants like horseradish ? Anthony June 10 , 2010 glenda1230 years ago we were told to use water softener salt on an area that had poison ivy , we figured why not because we had tried every thing else . We poured a whole bag of salt around a lilic tree stump and it killed the PI and it never came back . June 24 , 2010 lycopus Put a whole bag of salt on any plant and it will kill it but you wo n ' t be able to grow anything else in that area . June 27 , 2010 heather33 Hi Everyone , what a great thread ! Here are my questions I am hoping someone ( s ) will help to answer : * We have a few vines of PI in a few different areas of the yard . Once I spray with Round Up Concentrate and all is dreid up - what is the best way to remove ? * If the dogs happen to run against it - how long does it stay " alive " on their coat ? * Our yard is mostly weeds - once the vines / plants are dried and removed , is it smart to plant some grass seed in attempt to not allow the PI return ? * We have vines of Virginia Creeper growing through the yard which I heard is most likely to contain PI as well . Open to suggestions on controling this so we can enjoy our new space ! * With the vines on the trees - if not removed and allowed to rot , does the oil die ? Or is it more dangerous to being disturbed and spread ? Look forward to your replies - thanks so much ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! June 30 , 2010 enduring Way late to post , but I have heard that the oil in poison ivy can take a couple of years to break down . Virginia creeper is a different plant , and not poisonous . It just likes the same growing conditions as PI so people confuse the two , to my knowledge . June 27 , 2013 Mossonarock I have had excellent results getting rid of poison ivy by using Triclopyr . Its sold under several brand names and is available in bigbox stores . I do n ' t spray it . Spraying risks killing the neighbor plants or the trees near the poison ivy . Instead , I pour a bit into a glass and paint a bit onto a few leaves . The plant absorbs it and circulates it through the whole plant including the roots . A week or two later and its dead . Its tedious but effective and beats trying to uproot July 12 , 2013 littlebeemama We are closing on a new house in mid - August . Being a gardening newbie , I did not realize until recently that the backyard is completely overgrown with poison ivy . Our backyard is about 0.6 acres of land ( so very small compared to others on this site ) . But I have 2 curious preschool - aged children who love exploring in the woods and picking random leaves . I ' m terrified of letting them loose in the new yard . What am I realistically looking at ? I know I will have missed the window to treat during the spring growing season . How does one permanently remove poison ivy ? My husband suggested that we cut the trees near the property , kill the PIT with round up , and then roll grass sod over the area . For the rest of the yard , he suggested putting down landscape fabric and mulch . Will this work ? I ' m kind of bummed at this solution , since I had envisioned growing a woodland garden filled with fun native plants . But the safety of my young ones come first ! Thanks so much ! July 19 , 2013 Monica Seybold Hello , I live along a creek in No . Cal . that runs into the county reservoir . We are in severe drought conditions . The creek dries as soon as rain stops . I have a long narrow 4 acres that completely parallel the creek 1 side & road the other . I have huge thickets of wild blackberry & massive amts . of poison oak & stinging nettle . 10 yrs . ago I had goats ; otherwise I have left it all alone so wildlife has refuse . Now medically unemployable & have become more interested in hurgenkulture March 19 , 2015 wisconsitom Moni , I just yesterday read about " hurgenkulture " . I must say , an interesting set of ideas and one near and dear to things I ' ve done in the past - not knowing they had such a name and backlog of info ! Best of luck with your venture . + oM March 20 , 2015 romeisburning Let me testify that poison ivy can turn on you with a vengeance . I went from no reaction at all to a major allergic reaction the next year . It is so bad that it leaves scars . Now let me pass on some advice that a very mature seasoned lady gardener passed on to me . When you come in from gardening immediately strip in front of the washer and throw in everything and wash it in hot water . Immediately climb into a bathtub of warm water with 2 cups of Clorox in it and soak . She never has poison ivy , chigger bites , ticks or any other skin nuisances . For what it ' s worth . May 15 , 2015 romeisburning Oh , and whatever you do do n ' t gather it up and burn it ! My brother did that and his allergic wife went out to talk to him and inhaled the smoke . She nearly died . She was in the hospital for over a month . Proceed with great caution around that evil stuff . May 15 , 2015 PRO Jessica Goehler Tehcnu Rash Relief spray is the cat ' s meow ! ! ! It will numb the area then dry it out . Wash immediately after contact with the plant with the technu scrub . Once you have it the scrub does n ' t help as much but the spray is a miracle worker ! ! September 2 , 2015 weworkshop Anyone know if using lime to alter the ph will do - in poison ivy ? I do n ' t have any to try it on but some of our public recreational lands need major help so I am looking for alternatives . January 12 , 2016 Helpful Hint # 1 - Never gather poison ivy cuttings into a pile and burn it and inhale the smoke . My sister in law went out as my brother was burning it and breathed in the smoke . She was in intensive care for several weeks . Helpful Hint # 2 - My mother got rid of a large patch of PI using this method . She filled several large soup cans with Round Up . Then she would find the end of a PI vine and stick it down into the roundup and weigh it down with something to keep it in the can . It killed that particular vine all the way back to the roots . Everytime she saw green PI she would repeat this process until one day - Voila ! No poison ivy remained . January 12 , 2016 davidrt28 ( zone 7 ) Anyone know if using lime to alter the ph will do - in poison ivy ? No . March 8 , 2016 wps1122 How about getting a few goats or renting some . . .Don ' t they eat everything ! March 8 , 2016 wisconsitom The commonly - available herbicides , listed ad nauseum already in this thread , will easily kill poison ivy . People here talk as if it ' s some super plant , impervious to these chemicals . It is not . But as many people do n ' t bother to read pesticide labels , they ' re probably largely wasting their money and efforts , plus coming away with the erroneous idea that these chemicals " do n ' t work . So , so not true . Read the label ! 1 Like March 9 , 2016 Sign Up to Comment | [
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http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/3308630/pruning-woody-herbs-thyme-oregano-lavender-etc | Find the right pro for your project Planting Tree Pruning Hedge Trimming Tree Planting Trim Work Herbs Pruning Woody Herbs ( Thyme , oregano , lavender , etc ) jz August 18 , 2015 Ok , so I ' m new to herb gardening and have started to get the hang of when to harvest / prune , but I ' m completely lost as to what to do when some herbs ( lavender , thyme , oregano ) get woody stems . I ' ve read articles and books and still remain pretty clueless . The stems on my thyme and lavender have almost all gone woody . What I ' m unsure about is what this means exactly . Does it mean those stems have died and there wo n ' t Lavender Thyme Email Save Comment 16 Like Comments ( 16 ) floral_uk z . 8 / 9 SW UK Sad to say I think your Lavender is a goner , although there is a healthy looking bit bottom left . Is it in a container with something else ? It looks badly overwatered and sharing with another plant that needs more water would not do it any good . Your thyme also looks pretty rough - it seems to be etiolated which is a sign of insufficient light . It too looks as if it is possibly too wet . Thyme and lavender are shrubs so woodiness in itself is not unnatural but generally people clip them over to keep fresh new growth coming . Like Save August 18 , 2015 last modified : bardamu_gw Agree with Floral . That lavender is dentata , because it has teeth . . It likes it even hotter than your typical variety , and it requires warmer winters . Sometimes called french or spanish lavender . I call it Moroccan lavender ( why not ? ) . It could probably grow in sand . It will definitely root in moist sand . You could probably clip 5 inch pieces and stick them in a small pot of moist sand to give it a backup plan . last modified : jz Thanks ! We ' ve had close to 20 " of rain in a month so everything has definitely had it ' s fair share of water . Any way to save them once they ' ve become woody ? bardamu_gw Depends what you are saving them from . . . ( being woody ? ) I mean , once they ' ve become woody , they ' re done / no new growth ? August 19 , 2015 floral_uk z . 8 / 9 SW UK They are by no means done . In their natural habitat there ' s no one to trim them and that is what they do . They ' ll still produce new growth but aesthetically they may not look how you want . It ' s not the woodiness which is the problem . The lavender is basically dead or dying - at least the part on the right is . The thyme is alive but etiolated . August 19 , 2015 balloonflower Also , they are both woody plants - - it ' s completely normal and unavoidable . Lav , thyme , basil , oreg , savory , sage , rosemary - - they are woody stem plants and that will happen as they mature . I agree that the lavender is unfortunately a lost cause . The thyme is also showing signs of root rot - - the brown dead leaves , but it bounces back easier , so it ' s wait and see . Drainage is very important . There are several old threads on growing potted herbs that you might find useful in a search . Treat lavender as you would rosemary . Healthy potted herbs are difficult , but not impossible - you need to learn their needs . That said , though I grow most of mine in pots , As far as pruning woody herbs - - a good rule is to trim back by no more than a third at a time . The only real reasons to prune thyme , oreg , or lav is either for use , or for visual appearance - - unlike an herb such as basil , they do n ' t need the trim to force further growth , as they are bushy perennials . Thyme and oreg are pretty fast growers and you can be pretty rough on healthy plants - - if your goal is culinary use , then August 20 , 2015 I have about 30 lavenders in pots , they are the most trouble free plant I have in a pot besides succulents . You just have to give them what they need , which is n ' t much . . . . enough water enough sun and a good trim . I have lavenders in the ground , even easier . Woody lavender is avoidable . A well trimmed lavender will outlive a woody lavender . . . it ' s not just aesthetics . You do n ' t need to trim thyme like with lavender , because it spr e ads on its own withoughts need of help . Yours does n ' t look healthy . . it should be growing all season long sideways . August 20 , 2015 balloonflower I should have specified - - I do n ' t try to overwinter it indoors in pots due to the difficulty at that point , even though I ' ve learned to keep my rosemary happy . In pots and properly cared for outside I ' m sure would be different . It may survive winter if it was properly protected in it ' s pot , but last year I lost all of my plants that did n ' t come inside . But now , I have a new house that I can actually plant around . August 22 , 2015 gardengal48 ( PNW Z8 / 9 ) " Woody lavender is avoidable . A well trimmed lavender will outlive a woody lavender . . . it ' s not just aesthetics . " I ' m not sure I would agree with this : - ) Lavender is a sub - shrub and will develop a permanent woody framework , pruned or not . What routine or annual pruning will do is prevent the development of an excessively knotted or gnarly woody interior and the resultant splaying or fanning out of the branches , rather than the maintenance of a densely rounded , mounded form . Unpruned lavenders , while they display this somewhat unattractive appearance , can live just as long as a heavily pruned lavender can . And this is coming from someone who lives in the commercial lavender growing capital of the US : - ) August 24 , 2015 gardengal , I think that ' s a fair statement . I am not sure if a more productive and vigorous plant means longer life myself . It would seem intuitively so , but I do n ' t think anyone has left an unruly lavender to its own devices long enough to compare with a nearby trimmed plant . There are other variables though , like overwintering in colder climates - - extended branches means more exposure to the elements . Since only the green tips of the woody material can grow , the point of failure is far from the safety of the plant ' s roots . You probably already know since you live in the lavender growing capital of the US that commercial growers are going to trim their lavender to promote bushy foliage and spike productivity , and longer life " in the field " . August 26 , 2015 August 26 , 2015 Thanks , guys . Here ' s a photo of the herb garden from this morning . Back row : Basil , Lemongrass , Cilantro ( died ) , Sage Front row : Mint , Oregano , Thyme , Parsley ( died ) Oregano and Thyme In my first response I mentioned that the plants were showing etiolation ( sign of lack of light ) . Having seen the bed now it looks to be in quite a lot of shade . Not optimal for herbs . gardengal48 ( PNW Z8 / 9 ) bardamu - yes , the commercial fields are sheared twice a season . Once , somewhat lightly when the bloom season is over in early fall and again , a bit harder / tighter , in spring as the new growth commences . However , as a general rule , lavender is not generally considered very long term plants as far as maintaining a dense , mounded appearance is concerned . Plants in commercial fields are usually on a 3 - 5 year rotation for replacement . OTOH , I know of several unpruned , more or less neglected plants in home gardens that are approaching 20 years and while displaying a very unkempt , floppy appearance with a lot of very woody interiors , are perfectly healthy and bloom heavily , if not in a very attractive or appealing manner : - ) gardengal , I ' ve read that lavender typically lives to 15 years more or less , and you have a 20 year old woody lavender that is perfectly healthy with heavy blooms . Which is pretty amazing , correct ? but I ' m confused about your point . Would you say that this 20 year old lavender is an exceptional example and proof that trimming lavender makes no difference to longevity ? I get the impression that your insistence that unpruned lavender is not ' very attractive ' tries to explain an underlying confusion about the difference between health and aesthetics . Lavender farmers trim their plants to maximize health and vigour . The reason they only grow them for 3 - 5 years is because of disease and lack of crop rotation . You wrote that a dense , mounded appearance is not generally considered long term . But lavender crop rotation is not long term , only 3 - 5 years . In other words , trimming a farm lavender is unrelated to the monoculture ' weak soil ' issue . So how does your statement about trimming apply about long term health ? This is an interesting article : http : / / catherinegarro . com / 2014 / 08 / 28 / the - true - story - of - lavender - and - einkorn August 28 , 2015 August 28 , 2015 While I am truly loving the lavender side discussions , we have strayed a bit from the OP ' s issues , so hopefully we can do both . JZ - - first , where are you located ? It will help us a little in knowing what conditions you have . If you ' re going to stick with Houzz past these issues , adding it into your profile so it auto appears can be helpful . How big is the bed pictured , and what kind of sun does it receive ? Second , in addition to the light issues , your little garden has some others to address , but please do n ' t take this as discouraging . It ' s pretty small for the number of plants you have in it . Many think that herbs can always be grown small ( and you see pics of these adorable little windowsill or mini gardens ) , but reality is that most can get quite large and need their space . There are also those that need lots of water , and those that NEED drainage and can be Cilantro does n ' t like heat , or transplanting . Best to grow from seed . Parsley is similar , though it tolerates heat better . Mint spreads by underground runner roots and will eventually choke out all the other plants nearby . It can be tough to contain in - ground . August 29 , 2015 Sign Up to Comment | [
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Disclaimer : ) The normal legal stuff , 1 ) Backup the registry , 2 ) test on a non - production box . I hold no responsibility for deploying this in your environment . : Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [ HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ Schannel \ Protocols ] [ HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ Schannel \ Protocols \ PCT 1.0 ] [ HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ Schannel \ Protocols \ PCT 1.0 \ Server ] " Enabled " = dword : 00000000 [ HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ Schannel \ Protocols \ SSL 2.0 ] [ HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ Schannel \ Protocols \ SSL 2.0 \ Client ] " DisabledByDefault " = dword : 00000000 " Enabled " = dword : 00000000 [ HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ Schannel \ Protocols \ SSL 2.0 \ Server ] Steve Schofield Windows Server MVP - IIS http : / / iislogs . com / steveschofield http : / / www . IISLogs . com Log archival solution Install , Configure , Forget blackopal 1 Post Re : Disable SSL v2 in IIS7 ? Aug 02 , 2009 12 : 57 AM Sorry , but , that does not appear to work for windows 2008 . ( it works for Windows 2003 ) TWarring 1 Post Sep 29 , 2009 08 : 48 AM We are also having trouble getting this to work with Server 2008 R2 , although the registry keys exist in the same pattern it continues to make SSL2 available . This is a significant PCI issue of course . . . steve schofi . . . 5620 Posts Sep 30 , 2009 09 : 44 PM http : / / support . microsoft . com / ? id = 187498 Did you try this ? Steve Schofield Windows Server MVP - IIS http : / / iislogs . com / steveschofield http : / / www . IISLogs . com Log archival solution Install , Configure , Forget CQout 2 Posts Oct 26 , 2009 05 : 12 PM I assume your refrences to DWORD in your advice is for 32bit machines . Would I be correct that people with 64bit machines should be setting QWORD to zero ? Pawel Dolny 7 Posts Nov 19 , 2009 02 : 26 PM I had the same or let say very similar problem under Windows 2008 x64 and Windows 2008 R2 I was trying to disable SSL 2.0 and in the same time enable SSL 3.0 and TLS 1.0 . I did try to just disable SSL 2.0 but with no luck what so ever . Below instructions how I ' ve done it : ( MAKE SURE THAT YOU BACKUP YOUR REGISTRY BEFORE APPLYING THOSE CHANGES ) • Using regedit to add the following keys ( right click on protocols - > new - > key - > " SSL 2.0 " then " SSL 3.0 " then " TLS 1.0 " ) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SCHANNEL \ Protocols \ SSL 2.0 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SCHANNEL \ Protocols \ SSL 3.0 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SCHANNEL \ Protocols \ TLS 1.0 • Under each of the keys above you need to create additional keys " Client " and " Server " For SSL 2.0 : HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SCHANNEL \ Protocols \ SSL 2.0 \ Client HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SCHANNEL \ Protocols \ SSL 2.0 \ Server For SSL 3.0 : HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SCHANNEL \ Protocols \ SSL 3.0 \ Client HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SCHANNEL \ Protocols \ SSL 3.0 \ Server For TLS 1.0 : HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SCHANNEL \ Protocols \ TLS 1.0 \ Client HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SCHANNEL \ Protocols \ TLS 1.0 \ Server • Then you will have to create DWORD ( 32bit ) value called " Enabled " under each " Client " and " Server " key for " SSL 2.0 , SSL 3.0 and TLS 1.0 " DWORD ( 32bit ) Value Value name = Enabled Value date = 0 Value date can be set to " 1 " - Enabled or " 0 " – Disabled In my scenario the values were " enabled " ( set to 1 ) for SSL 3.0 and TLS 1.0 and " disabled " ( set to 0 ) for SSL 2.0 • Next step is to add correct Ciphers , to do so you will have to navigate to the following key in the registry HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SCHANNEL \ Ciphers • ( right click on " Cliphers " New - > Key ) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SCHANNEL \ Ciphers \ RC2 128 / 128 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SCHANNEL \ Ciphers \ RC4 128 / 128 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SCHANNEL \ Ciphers \ Triple DES 168 / 168 • That ' s all ! Now you need to restart your server to apply those changes . • If you are using TMG 2010 or ISA 2006 to publish the website externally you will need to apply exactly the same settings to registry to it . Please accept my apologies for my English , but I hope I ' ve managed to help you guys . CQout Nov 23 , 2009 11 : 07 AM Thanks Pawel , I can report I have tried this on our server and your solution works . Thank you . Pawel Dolny 7 Posts Nov 25 , 2009 07 : 46 PM That ' s superb ! Thanks for leting me know . Kind Regards Pawel Dolny chrismarts Jan 13 , 2010 10 : 20 AM Is there an alternative to restarting the server ? Can IIS just be reycled ? Or some other service ( s ) ? Jan 13 , 2010 10 : 31 AM You can try " iisreset " from the command line but I ' m not sure if that ' s all you have to do . Regards Pawel Dolny Soylent Mar 02 , 2010 03 : 38 PM Hi Pawel , thanks for the excellent instructions . Is " Triple DES 168 / 168 " considered strong ? Can I just use the RC2 and RC4 ciphers or will I have issues ? Thanks ! Mar 04 , 2010 10 : 24 AM The Triple DES in not new on the market and is weaker than the AES and three time slower . Many security systems use both Triple DES and AES to make it more secure . AES is the default algorithm on most systems now . Triple DES will be kept around for compatibility reasons . In terms of RC2 and RC4 ciphers , The RC4 cipher is highly vulnerable only to a Bit - flipping attack if not implemented correctly . " The attack is especially dangerous when the attacker knows the format of the message . In such a situation , the attacker can turn it into a similar message but one in which some important information is altered . For example , a change in the destination address might alter the message route in a way that will force re - encryption with a weaker cipher , thus possibly making it easier for an attacker to decipher the message " - wikipedia With the above you will be ok for PCI compliance I hope that helps , Thanks Pawel Mar 04 , 2010 10 : 26 AM I ' ve never tried to use RC2 or RC4 only Pawel theboywonder 5 Posts May 19 , 2010 08 : 37 AM Thanks Pawel . Your complete solution in batch form , I believe ( hope this makes someone ' s job easier ) : REG ADD " HKLM \ System \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SChannel \ Protocols \ SSL 2.0 \ Server " / v Enabled / t REG_DWORD / d 0 / f REG ADD " HKLM \ System \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SChannel \ Protocols \ SSL 2.0 \ Client " / v Enabled / t REG_DWORD / d 0 / f REG ADD " HKLM \ System \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SChannel \ Protocols \ SSL 3.0 \ Server " / v Enabled / t REG_DWORD / d 1 / f REG ADD " HKLM \ System \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SChannel \ Protocols \ SSL 3.0 \ Client " / v Enabled / t REG_DWORD / d 1 / f REG ADD " HKLM \ System \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SChannel \ Protocols \ TLS 1.0 \ Server " / v Enabled / t REG_DWORD / d 1 / f REG ADD " HKLM \ System \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SChannel \ Protocols \ TLS 1.0 \ Client " / v Enabled / t REG_DWORD / d 1 / f REG ADD " HKLM \ System \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SChannel \ Ciphers \ RC2 128 / 128 " REG ADD " HKLM \ System \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SChannel \ Ciphers \ RC4 128 / 128 " REG ADD " HKLM \ System \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SChannel \ Ciphers \ Triple DES 168 / 168 " May 19 , 2010 08 : 53 AM Many Thanks Theboywonder ! That will speed up the process . : - ) asmidir 6 Posts Jun 18 , 2010 04 : 49 AM Hi , Ca n ' t you just disable the sslv2 . 0 using : REG ADD " HKLM \ System \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SChannel \ Protocols \ SSL 2.0 \ Server " / v Enabled / t REG_DWORD / d 0 / f REG ADD " HKLM \ System \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SChannel \ Protocols \ SSL 2.0 \ Client " / v Enabled / t REG_DWORD / d 0 / f Only ? ( as per : http : / / social . technet . microsoft . com / Forums / en - US / winserverDS / thread / 1cf01f33 - 9cbe - 4b76 - b01c - 83923c4cda04 ) ? Thanks ianbrogden Jul 20 , 2010 10 : 53 AM Unfortunately , no . See this article : http : / / blogs . msdn . com / b / amol / archive / 2010 / 04 / 27 / how - to - disable - ssl - 2 - 0 - in - internet - information - services - 7 . aspx SSL bdmeyer 5 Posts Feb 01 , 2011 09 : 58 AM I found on my Windows 2008 R2 64 bit server with IIS 7 , under : HKLM \ System \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SChannel \ Protocols \ SSL 2.0 \ I just added a new key of ' Server ' with a DWORD 32 bit value of " DiabledByDefault " and the hex ' value data ' of 1 , rebooted and SSLv2 was gone . It will sit right under : the HKLM \ System \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SChannel \ Protocols \ SSL 2.0 \ Client \ DisabledByDefault = 1 which is already present . Here is an example scan before and after the one change : ( before : ) commandme : . / cnark . pl - h some . fqdn . what . ever - p 443 SSL Certificate Information . . . Certificate Commmon Name : some . fqdn . what . ever Testing SSLv2 Ciphers . . . DES - CBC3 - MD5 - - 168 bits , High Encryption RC4 - MD5 - - 128 bits , Medium Encryption Testing SSLv3 Ciphers . . . DES - CBC3 - SHA - - 168 bits , High Encryption RC4 - SHA - - 128 bits , Medium Encryption RC4 - MD5 - - 128 bits , Medium Encryption Testing TLSv1 Ciphers . . . AES256 - SHA - - 256 bits , High Encryption DES - CBC3 - SHA - - 168 bits , High Encryption AES128 - SHA - - 128 bits , High Encryption RC4 - SHA - - 128 bits , Medium Encryption ( after : ) commandme : . / cnark . pl - h some . fqdn . what . ever - p 443 SSL Certificate Information . . . Certificate Commmon Name : some . fqdn . what . ever Testing SSLv2 Ciphers . . . Testing SSLv3 Ciphers . . . Testing TLSv1 Ciphers . . . AES256 - SHA - - 256 bits , High Encryption AES128 - SHA - - 128 bits , High Encryption commandme : disable sslv2 IIS7 ssl theboywonder Feb 03 , 2011 04 : 38 AM bdmeyer I found on my Windows 2008 R2 64 bit server with IIS 7 , under : HKLM \ System \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SChannel \ Protocols \ SSL 2.0 \ I just added a new key of ' Server ' with a DWORD 32 bit value of " DiabledByDefault " and the hex ' value data ' of 1 , rebooted and SSLv2 was gone . Do you mean this ? REG ADD " HKLM \ System \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SChannel \ Protocols \ SSL 2.0 \ Server " / v DisabledByDefault / t REG_DWORD / d 1 / f If so perhaps that can be added to the above for a more * complete * solution ? bdmeyer Feb 04 , 2011 08 : 51 AM In my case , I found that the other keys had no function . I tested the SSL enumeration prior to adding the key ' s in the above solution , and afterwards , and the enumeration was identical . I susbequently removed all the extra keys , then added the disabled by default ' key , and that left all the other protocols as before , except sslv2 . 0 was now missing . ( As desired ) So in the case of : Windows Server 2008 64 bit R2 , i would say the only item needed to disable sslv2 . 0 is : REG ADD " HKLM \ System \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SChannel \ Protocols \ SSL 2.0 \ Server " / v DisabledByDefault / t REG_DWORD / d 1 / f Perhap ' s the other keys are needed for other versions of WIndows Server 200x . But no in 2008 64 bit R2 . CyberHostPro . . . 24 Posts Dec 23 , 2011 04 : 22 PM Hi we are trying to make a server PCI complaint however it is failing with the below error stating to disable v2 SSL we tried and rebooted the server , but this did not help . Its windows 2008 R2 DC Edition Hyper - V Virtual Server . < div class = " section " style = " background - color : rgb ( 100.000000 % , 100.000000 % , 100.000000 % ) " > < div class = " section " > < / div > < div class = " section " > < div class = " layoutArea " > < div class = " column " > Description : SSL server uses only SSLv2 protocol Severity : Critical Problem Impact : A remote attacker with the ability to sniff network traffic could decrypt an encrypted session . Background : Secure Sockets Layer ( SSL ) is an encryption protocol used to ensure confidentiality as information travels across the Internet . It is commonly used between web browsers and web servers to protect sensitive data such as passwords and credit card numbers . At the beginning of an SSL session , the client and server negotiate the encryption algorithm , known as a cipher . The chosen cipher d_ssl . html # sslciphersuite ] SSLCipherSuite directive in the configuration file to specify strong ciphers only and disable SSLv2 . For Microsoft IIS web servers , disable SSLv2 and any weak ciphers as described in Microsoft knowledge base articles [ http : / / support . microsoft . com / kb / 187498 ] 187498 and [ http : / / support . microsoft . com / kb / 245030 ] 245030 . For other types of web servers , consult the web server documentation . Vulnerability Details : Service : https Client response to SSLv3 request : \ x16 \ x03 \ x00 \ < / div > < / div > < / div > < / div > Chris Danks Cyber Host Pro LTD http : / / www . cyberhostpro . com kaushilz 84 Posts Jan 05 , 2012 05 : 41 PM SSLv2 is disabled by default on Windows Server 2008 R2 . You do n ' t need to add any registry keys as such . Unless someone has already enabled it , you can add the keyword enabled and set that to 0 . Regards , Kaushal Regards , Kaushal http : / / blogs . msdn . com / kaushal Marco_C May 22 , 2012 11 : 57 AM bdmeyer It will sit right under : the HKLM \ System \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SChannel \ Protocols \ SSL 2.0 \ Client \ DisabledByDefault = 1 which is already present . Here is an example scan before and after the one change : ( before : ) commandme : . / cnark . pl - h some . fqdn . what . ever - p 443 DES - CBC3 - MD5 - - 168 bits , High Encryption ( after : ) commandme : . / cnark . pl - h some . fqdn . what . ever - p 443 commandme : Hi bdmeyer , I ' m a bit new to SSL security and I was wondering what application or utility you used for running the scan testing the encryption levels ( using command line " commandme : . / cnark . pl - h some . fqdn . what . ever - p 443 " ) . Many Thanks , Marco opensvr Oct 31 , 2012 08 : 00 AM Clearly this is not the case as all these other people have probably like me spent hours of time fiddling with reg keys trying to disable it due to a failure against a compliancy test . Why MS can not simply tell us clearly what needs to be done is beyond me but it certainly is not disabled by default otherwise all these brand new deployments would have had to have it enabled first . How do you enable it ? That might also be useful information . kaushilz 84 Posts Nov 15 , 2012 01 : 35 AM This information is readily available . All you need to do is search . This KB article suggests on how to do so . http : / / support . microsoft . com / kb / 187498 NOTE : 3rd party products do n ' t use the MS implementation of Crypto API ' s and SSL libraries and have their own custom implementation . The above KB provides a tool which disables the speciifc protocol version . All it does is add a registry key under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SCHANNEL \ Protocols By default you would find only SSL 2.0 under protocols : Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SCHANNEL \ Protocols HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SCHANNEL \ Protocols \ SSL 2.0 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ SecurityProviders \ SCHANNEL \ Protocols \ SSL 2.0 \ Client " DisabledByDefault " = dword 00000001 If you want to disable it for the server node one then you can either use the above KB ( not sure if it would run on Windows Server 2008 R2 ) or create one or modify the above node . So it would look like this . This would disable the SSL v2 . 0 for the all the server components . Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 \ Client " DisabledByDefault " = dword 00000001 \ Server Regards , Kaushal http : / / blogs . msdn . com / kaushal Nov 15 , 2012 04 : 36 AM Try to use this , very useful ! https : / / www . nartac . com / Products / IISCrypto / Default . aspx pccenter_mat . . . Dec 05 , 2013 01 : 02 AM Hello . . can anyone help with regards to Disabling SSL 2.0 I am also using Reg file and editing the Registry through Reg File and disabling SSL . But it is only editing the Registry values . When i check if from Tools - - - Internet Options - - - Advance Setting . . I can still see that SSL 2.0 is not disabled . I am trying this on Windows 7 . . . where am i going wrong . Below is my code . plz help . 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http://forums.iis.net/t/1153050.aspx?URL+Rewrite+for+SSL+redirection | Home IIS . NET Forums IIS 7 and Above URL Rewrite Module URL Rewrite for SSL redirection URL Rewrite for SSL redirection RSS 20 replies Last post Aug 28 , 2014 02 : 14 PM by flyinaway ‹ Previous Thread | Next Thread › Print Share Shortcuts Active Threads Unanswered Threads Unresolved Threads Advanced Search Reply bd1966 9 Posts Nov 13 , 2008 09 : 18 AM | LINK Can URL Rewrite be used to change http : to https : for directories on my site which require ssl ? If not , does anybody have any suggestions on how to achieve this ? Thanks in advance . Reply diholaiis 57 Posts Re : URL Rewrite for SSL redirection Nov 13 , 2008 09 : 57 AM LINK Something like this ? < rewrite > < rules > < clear / > < rule name = " Force HTTPS " enabled = " true " > < match url = " ( . * ) " ignoreCase = " false " / > < conditions > < add input = " { HTTPS } " pattern = " off " / > < / conditions > < action type = " Redirect " url = " https : / / { HTTP_HOST } { REQUEST_URI } " appendQueryString = " true " redirectType = " Permanent " / > < / rule > < / rewrite > ruslany 887 Posts Microsoft Re : URL Rewrite for SSL redirection Nov 13 , 2008 11 : 48 AM You may want to change it a little : < rule name = " Force HTTPS " enabled = " true " > < match url = " ( . * ) " ignoreCase = " false " / > < conditions > < add input = " { HTTPS } " pattern = " off " / > < / conditions > < action type = " Redirect " url = " https : / / { HTTP_HOST } / { R : 1 } " appendQueryString = " true " redirectType = " Permanent " / > < / rule > { REQUEST_URI } contains the entire requested URL including query string , so your original rule would end up duplicating query string parameters when redirecting . https bd1966 9 Posts Nov 17 , 2008 01 : 49 PM Thanks for the advice . I will give it a try . Nov 19 , 2008 10 : 03 AM The rule that you gave me is working . However , I need a rule that changes https back to http for all of the other directories in the site . Nov 19 , 2008 10 : 22 AM Disregard the last message . I was able to create a rule which turns off the https . monaung 1 Post Mar 04 , 2009 04 : 09 AM Hi can you show fully code and please tell me how to deploy . I just install URLRewrite and i do n ' t know how to do ? ? I also need redirect http to https Thanks https emumford 59 Posts Mar 04 , 2009 12 : 12 PM < rules > < rule name = " RequiresSSL - Redirect " stopProcessing = " true " > < match url = " ( . + ) " / > < conditions > < add input = " { HTTPS } " pattern = " off " / > < add input = " { RequiresSSL : { R : 1 } } " pattern = " ( . + ) " / > < / conditions > < action type = " Redirect " url = " https : / / { HTTP_HOST } / { C : 1 SlitheryImp 2 Posts Jul 22 , 2009 01 : 32 AM I ' m having some trouble getting this working , it does n ' t seem to be redirecting at all ( to HTTPS , or to HTTP ) I am using th redirect code above but my rewriteMap looks like this : < rewriteMaps > < rewriteMap name = " RequiresSSL " > < add key = " admin " value = " admin / " / > < add key = " secure " value = " secure / " / > < / rewriteMap > < / rewriteMaps > I have also tried it with a path directly to an .aspx page instead of a folder , but still , nothing seems to be working . Other rules are working fine , ( ie . toLowercase , from non - www to www ) and I have also disabled these temporarily to see if they where getting in the way . ruslany 887 Posts Microsoft Jul 22 , 2009 01 : 51 PM Can you give examples of full URLs you have tried requesting and they did not redirect ? Also , you may try temporarily commenting out the condition that calls to rewrite map to check that actual redirection part works as expected . That will help to narrow down the cause of the problem . Joffies 20 Posts Oct 21 , 2010 07 : 33 AM Good day . Just trying out the redirect to SLL as per sample above on a site in IIS 7.5 Rule snippet : < rule name = " Force HTTPS " enabled = " true " > < match url = " ( . * ) " ignoreCase = " false " / > < conditions > < add input = " { HTTPS } " pattern = " off " / > < / conditions > < action type = " Redirect " url = " https : / / { HTTP_HOST } / { R : 1 } " appendQueryString = " true " redirectType = " Permanent " / > < / rule > Actions : Typing in http : / / 172 . 12 . 13 . 61 in the address bar and would expect it to redirect / force to https : / / 172 . 12 . 13 . 61 but it does not happen . Any ideas ? Thanks Joffies 20 Posts Oct 21 , 2010 09 : 06 AM Not sure if it has anything to do with the fact that I am running a classic asp application . I still can not make the above rule work , but thought Id ask this too . On IIS 6 we used the following to jump / force / redirect SSL on 403 ; 4 errors by setting it to a page that includes the following . < % If Request . ServerVariables ( " SERVER_PORT " ) = 80 Then Dim strSecureURL strSecureURL = " https : / / " strSecureURL = strSecureURL & Request . ServerVariables ( " SERVER_NAME " ) strSecureURL = strSecureURL & Request . ServerVariables ( " URL " ) Response . Redirect strSecureURL End If % > Is this still feasible or would the URL Rewrite be the prefferred method in IIS 7.5 ? dihola15 2 Posts Oct 21 , 2010 04 : 46 PM Hi , I have no idea about Classic ASP , does it use web . config files as well ? The rules above I use them in such file . Also , I do n ' t think it works when run with Visual Studio , has to be against IIS7 itself . The rules seem ok , perhaps try using a domain name rather than an ip address ? Good luck Oct 22 , 2010 04 : 32 AM No Classic ASP does not use the webconfig so I guess the question is if it actually gets looked at at all when using the URL rewrite module on a classic asp application ? I can not imagine that using the domain name would make a difference , I did try it and still can not make it work . Anybody out there that could shine some light on the matter ? : ) dihola15 Oct 22 , 2010 05 : 02 AM My guess is no . . . Why do n ' t you use a third - party url rewrite tool such as http : / / www . isapirewrite . com / ? Oct 22 , 2010 05 : 46 AM Well I just need to redirect / jump to SSL so handling the 404 error with a jumptossl . asp page will do the trick for me and therefore no need for a third party component . Thanks anyway . la_rollin 5 Posts Nov 02 , 2012 06 : 09 PM Is there a way to create an exception if a specific port is used ? stak007 1 Post Jan 07 , 2013 06 : 32 AM diholaiis Something like this ? < rewrite > < rules > < clear / > < rule name = " Force HTTPS " enabled = " true " > < action type = " Redirect " url = " https : / / { HTTP_HOST } { REQUEST_URI } " appendQueryString = " true " redirectType = " Permanent " / > < / rewrite > This worked perfectly , thanks alot ! azamtav 4 Posts Aug 15 , 2013 01 : 30 PM Disregard the last message . I was able to create a rule which turns off the https . " Can you post the code for this please ? TObject Aug 22 , 2014 06 : 10 PM If you already have a canonical domain name rule configured for your website , you can easily add redirection to that rule . Here is how to do it : https : / / www . orderfactory . com / articles / IIS - URL - Rewrite - to - HTTPS . html HTH URLRewrite tls flyinaway Aug 28 , 2014 02 : 14 PM Hi - how were you able to do this ? Here is my situation : http : / / was set up to redirect https : / / using a separate site in IIS . I do n ' t know what else was done to enable the redirect or if that was necessary , but I also do n ' t know how to undo it to accomplish what I need to . Now , we have changed the hosting server for www , and it is no longer secure , but search engines and media had bookmarked the https : / / domain . How do I get https : / / to redirect to http : / / for the www . subdomain ? Here are some looks at what I have tried : Original redirect : Pattern : ( . * ) Input { HTTPS } Pattern OFF $ Redirect URL https : / / { HTTP_HOST } / { R : 1 } What I need is to make sure the www subdomain redirect to http , while other subdomains ( in this case auctions . ) maintains the http - > https redirect Many thanks for the help . . . ‹ Previous Thread Next Thread › | [
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Last edited by a moderator : Mar 20 , 2014 U USC2013 Registered Users ( C ) Mar 20 , 2014 # 2 yes you can go with your iphone . . . yes at the some point , they ll tell you that you are allowed to take a picture . it is relax J # 3 Here ' s the write up : There were over close to 400 people scheduled to take oath at Faneuil Hall in Boston on 03 / 20 / 2014 . Add another 100 or so relatives who had come to see the ceremony . People started lining up outside the Fanuel Hall visitor center and there were some security staff on the doors . There were three long lines initially based on the color of the oath letter , white , orange and green . In my case , spouse and I had different colors of oath letters . The reporting time was 12 : 00 and the hudge was going to preside over the ceremony at 1 : 30 pm . Got in line at around 11 : 15 in somewhat milder weather but still cold at times . Waited pretty much until 12 : 00 to be let in . The relatives were let in first on the second floor of the Hall . Then people with white color oath letters , followed by orange and green . The security guards shouted some instructions while still outside the building not sure what he was saying something to do with phones and food not allowed . Or may be it was turn the phones off when inside . Whilte entering the first door ( main door to the building ) , I asked the security guard if it was ok to take the water bottle . He asked if there was coffee in it that might cause stains ( on the floor ? ) . On the actual enterence to the hall ( the place of ceremony ) , staff was looking at the form N - 445 and green card . Nobody looked at if the form N - 445 was filled up or not . The chairs had a packet sitting on each vacant chair and people pretty much sat in the order they entered the room . I was still waiting for spouse to enter so I asked one of the staff if we could sit together during hte ceremony , answer was no but we could sit on the end of the rows so we could be " next " to each other but not adjacent . .there was the pathway between us bu good enough to check up on things with each other . People were taking pictures , videos . The USCIS officer introduced himself on the mic and asked people to fill up the N - 445 form . Once that was done , people were asked to come forward to the tables setup in front of the room row by row . About 12 people in one row . When you get to the table , show them your form n - 445 and green card . They ask has anything changes since your interview ( meaning marriage / divorce , traffic tickets etc ) . They took the plastic green cards , put them in container and Judge arrived around 1 : 30 and clerk of the court announced that this place is now considered court and it ' s in sessions . Speech given by the judge , applicants were asked to stand and recite the oath after the clerk of the court . People who had requested name changes , thir reuquest was granted by oral motion . I do n ' t know if they were given any additional documents later . After the speech , judge left the building and applicants were asked to come to the table number scribbled on their form n - 445 and collect their naturalization certificates . There was no need to sign the certificates but applicants were asked to sign them when get home . The certificates were well protected and were in their own plastic thin sleeves in what looked like an office max binder . As people went to tables , the person at the table , looked at the form N - 445 to verify the ID and then took the cert out and handed over after congratulating the applicant . I took pictures when I was filling up the form N - 445 . But essentially there are eigh check boxes to check ( all of them will be No for most folks unless you ran into traffic trouble or if there were other changes since your interview ) . The whole event ended around 3 pm . So all in all close to 4 hours easy . joseribera New Member Jan 3 , 2017 # 4 That ' s very helpful ! Does anyone know if one is allowed to bring more than one guest to the ceremony ? joseribera New Member Jan 3 , 2017 # 5 ( in Fanueil Hall , Boston , that is ) You must log in or register to reply here . Home Forums After The Green Card And US Citizenship US Citizenship | [
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http://forums.immigration.com/threads/what-does-arc-mean-on-an-entry-stamp.179695/ | Home Forums After The Green Card And US Citizenship Life After The Green Card What does ' ARC ' mean on an entry stamp ? mitroloz03 Oct 7 , 2005 1 2 Next M mitroloz03 Registered Users ( C ) Oct 7 , 2005 # 1 Hello , I am a holder of GC . However on my last entry to the US the officer marked ' ARC ' on the entry stamp on my passport . Can anyone tell me what this means ? Thank you A AmericanWannabe Registered Users ( C ) # 2 mitroloz03 said : Hello , I am a holder of GC . However on my last entry to the US the officer marked ' ARC ' on the entry stamp on my passport . Can anyone tell me what this means ? Thank you Alien Registration Card . It is bad English because " Stay Until Alien Registration Card " does not make sense . M # 3 thank you aw , weird but true lol , makes sense ! T tangonta Oct 9 , 2005 # 4 This time I just got stamp at POE . No ARC . Last few times I got stamps with ARC . Do you think any problem ? W wik Oct 9 , 2005 # 5 tangonta said : Do you think any problem ? No . It just depends on how much the inspecting officer feels like writing . It ' s not a requirement because your status is obvious ( unlike a visa - holder ) . A AmericanWannabe Oct 10 , 2005 # 6 They don ; t even have to stamp you , especially when you enter from Canada . I have to ask them to do it so that I can have a record on my passport or a sourvenir too T tangonta Oct 10 , 2005 # 7 Thanks Wik and AmericanWannabe , I feel safe for entering US after next trip . Tangonta C cfiler # 8 Completely pointless question , but since we are talking about the stamp when we enter with a green card . . . is the stamp that we get on the passport the same as us citizens get ? The one I got at LAX a few weeks ago said ADMITTED , then CLASS UNTIL and that ' s where they wrote ARC . Do US Citizens get the same thing ? Oct 11 , 2005 # 9 JoeF said : There are no entry stamps for US citizens . Can a citizen get one if he want one ? Apollo_13 Oct 11 , 2005 # 10 AmericanWannabe said : Can a citizen get one if he want one ? Why not ? If the person is a born US citizen , he would n ' t even care about the stamping . . Only we ( immigrants ) care about this . . . . # 11 Apollo_13 said : Why not ? If the person is a born US citizen , he would n ' t even care about the stamping . . Only we ( immigrants ) care about this . . . . Sooner or later the border control will do teh same thing to citizens . In fact , the they should start now instead of taking one London subway style incidece to start . Apollo_13 # 12 AmericanWannabe said : Sooner or later the border control will do teh same thing to citizens . In fact , the they should start now instead of taking one London subway style incidece to start . Thats true . . . .because lot of immigrants are becoming citizens , at least to track these new citizens , border patrol would bring such new rules . . . . # 13 Apollo_13 said : Thats true . . . .because lot of immigrants are becoming citizens , at least to track these new citizens , border patrol would bring such new rules . . . . Maybe one day naturalized citizens and natural born citizens will be treated differently . You may say that is impossible because it is discrmination . But even now discrmination is already there because a natualized ciztizen can never run for oval office . # 14 Maybe one day naturalized citizens and natural born citizens will be treated differently . You may say that is impossible because it is discrmination . But even now discrmination is already there because a natualized ciztizen can never run for oval office . Probably this will change soon if Arnold Schwarzenegger continues in politics for a long time as he is interested in running for oval office and he is trying hard . . . . # 15 JoeF said : That has historical reasons ( the founders did n ' t want a spy from the UK to come over and become president ) and shows nicely how hard it is to change the constitution . You are way too paranoid Someone say it is only one terrorist attack ' s away from saying good bye to the constitution # 16 Quite a lot of paranoia The border patrol can not do such thing . That would require a change in the constitution . It would result in the end of freedom . And that would mean civil war . In fact , that ' s why the US constitution has provisions for a militia , to make sure nobody is meddling with the basic freedoms . Nation ' s interest / safety comes first prior to so called freedom . If Americans are asked to get their passport stamped whenever they leave or enter US , that does n ' t mean that their freedom is lost , especially after 9 / 11 , no one ( I mean born citizens ) would object for this rule . # 17 Well , it would be obvious then that the terrorists would have won . That is human nature . Ultimately practicality will beat ideology ( even if ideology was not based upon praticality in the first place ) . I do n ' t know how generals can control themselves if torturing prisoners is the only way to get information that can make differences in a big victory vs a total defeat # 18 Freedom is more important than safety . Freedom always involves risk . And not only does freedom involve risk , but it is a prerequisite to achieve as much safety as possible . Without freedom , safety and security are not possible . The obligatory reference : " Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security , will not have , nor do they deserve , either one . " Thomas Jefferson What ' Thomas Jefferson ' meant by Freedom is not same as what you think today . Today , you are saying freedom means , at POE you want to enter US without proper documentation or recording your entry / exit . As you said , Can New Yorkers say that it affects their freedom when Cops check their baggages while entering subway station ? If they ca n ' t , then what happens to their freedom ? So , today ' s freedom comes next to Safety / security . # 19 Benjamin Franklin said : " Where liberty is , there is my country " . If a nonimmigrant recite that in front of a US consul during visa application , he will immediately deny a visa C cfiler Oct 12 , 2005 # 20 Apparently US Citizens do get their passport stamped . Check out this page http : / / www . rathburn . net / visa / usa / usa . html This guy has scanned the stamps he has gotten through his trips all over the world . 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http://forums.jlconline.com/forums/forum/jlc-online-expert-forums/drywall-finishes/31488-prep-coat-vs-skim-coat | Forums Today ' s Posts Mark Channels Read Member List Home Forum JLC - Online Expert Forums Drywall & Finishes If this is your first visit , be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above . You may have to register before you can post : click the register link above to proceed . To start viewing messages , select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below Prep coat vs . skim coat Page of 1 Filter Tom Teka Veteran Contributor Join Date : Sep 2005 Location : Palm Springs , CA Posts : 147 # 1 Prep coat vs . skim coat 05 - 02 - 2007 , 11 : 43 PM Hi guys , I am a general contractor . I recently got several bids for a new house I am building in CA . All local drywall subs , except a guy from LA , who is trying to establish himself here ( near PalmSprings ) gave their proposals with the ' prep coat ' to achieve a good , level 5 smoot finish . I checked out the manufacturers web site and they claim it gives level 5 . What is your experience regarding skim vs . prep . The guy with the skim coat proposal is not expensive , but he What is your advise ? Thank you very much . Tom Tags : None Tom Teka Veteran Contributor Join Date : Sep 2005 Location : Palm Springs , CA Posts : 147 # 2 05 - 04 - 2007 , 06 : 37 PM Re : Prep coat vs . skim coat Such a simple question . Do n ' t you guys have 20 seconds to answer ? Joepro0000 May 2006 Location : Miami , FL 1155 # 3 05 - 04 - 2007 , 07 : 14 PM Re : Prep coat vs . skim coat What do you mean a prep coat ? What is that , touching up parts of the walls ? Thats why no one answered ! frenchie Jan 2007 Location : Brooklyn , Fire Island 5626 # 4 05 - 04 - 2007 , 08 : 33 PM I think he ' s talking about a particular product , " prep coat " being the product name . . . Tom , how about a link to the website you mentioned ? Francois Truth is just one man ' s explanation for what he thinks he understands . ( Walter Mosley ) Mike Gill Mar 2007 Location : NH Seacoast 130 # 5 05 - 05 - 2007 , 07 : 25 AM Tom , A level 5 can be achieved either way . Whether its sprayed on or skimed by hand . It is really up to you to spend the time to look at their work and ask them specific questions . If you do not have a regular drywall co . that does your work then you need to do your homework in finding one . The choice of who to use needs to be based on a lot more than which way the level 5 is applied . Do n ' t let the size of a company fool you . Often the smaller co . is the more reliable and gives a higher quality product . If your needing help in determining how to pick out the best co . to meet your needs and standards than fire away with questions . If your not serious about finding the right co . and your really shopping for price than . . . . .oh well . Capt - sheetrock Jan 2007 Location : NewBern NC 980 # 6 05 - 05 - 2007 , 08 : 18 AM the 20 secomds to answer is easy , , , , I ' ve read that post about 5 times , and I still do n ' t have a clue what your asking ? ? ? You asking about price ? crew size ? level 5 products ? or level 5 in general ? As for the comment about subing out piece meal to a few guys , thats the way drywall is done , , , got to give us hint , , , we ' re drywallers , remember ? ? ? Capt - Sheetrock - - - Drywall Master of the Universe Craig D jasoncring Jun 2005 Location : Perth , Australia 1150 # 7 05 - 05 - 2007 , 11 : 01 AM Why does everyone automatically treat level 5 as some paragon of excellence ? A good level 4 would be heaps better than a bad level 5 , surely . Ok , I ' ve never done a level 5 - and I ' m not trying to hijack Tom ' s thread - but is n ' t it just about equalizing paint ( or primer ) absorbtion , texture , and reflection of light ? Sounds to me like the sort of thing a sandable primer would take care of ( and with a lot less mud work ) , but I do n ' t know much about paint . I ' m definitely following the thread to see what the concensus is though . â € œIf the women do n ' t find you handsome , they should at least find you handy . " - Mr . Red Green # 8 05 - 05 - 2007 , 11 : 15 AM Sorry guys , but because all the subs in Palm Springs used the term " prep coat " , I assumed it is a generic term . I am not from PS and the only sub who quoted smooth finish with skim coat is also from Los Angeles ( he moved here about a year ago ) . As far as I understand it is a spray on compound which is sandable . Hamilton has one which is called Prep Coat Plus . I do n ' t really know if it is the only manufacturer . Of course I www . hamiltonnw . com / FP_HamiltonPrepCoatPlus . asp Thanks again for your help . Tom Capt - sheetrock Location : NewBern NC 980 # 9 05 - 05 - 2007 , 02 : 06 PM Tom , , heres my take on this Level 4 is the way we have been doing it for years , but greadually , more cathedreal cielings have become the norm , also , " eggshell paint " ( really semi - gloss with a new name so owners and contractors do n ' t realize their getting semi - gloss ) has become epedemic . whats happens routinely is this , you get a good level 4 and then a thinned down primer coat , no sand before the paint is applied , and then the sun highlites the joints , more so at differant times of the day . At this point the drywallers and painters begin blameing eachother . Enter the level 5 , , sparying the wall ( or skimming it ) with mud , or a ready mixed level5 finish ( usually paint and mud mixed together ) is used . This creates the same texture on the field as on the joint ( just like a primer coat thats back - rolled , and then sanded before paint is applied will do ) So to sum it up , somewhere in the process , you have to create the same texture across the whole board for a finish that shows no joints , these are just some of the ways it is done . Personally , I spray all purpose mud just like paint for level5 finish , if a level5 is called for , If I do the drywall and the paint , I spray PVA with an airless after a level 4 finish , and back - roll it with a 1 / 2 " knapp roller , which creates the same finish albeit , with one less step . Maybe this is not the answer your looking for , good luck Capt - Sheetrock - - - Drywall Master of the Universe Craig D # 11 05 - 23 - 2007 , 10 : 56 PM Hi Taper . I could not understand . Are you prep coating over a full skim coat or just after taping and mudding the joints ? How is the prices in San Jose ? I am curious . | [
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http://forums.jlconline.com/forums/forum/jlc-online-expert-forums/finish-carpentry/27744-the-best-baluster-spacing-formula | Forums Today ' s Posts Mark Channels Read Member List Home Forum JLC - Online Expert Forums Finish Carpentry If this is your first visit , be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above . You may have to register before you can post : click the register link above to proceed . To start viewing messages , select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below The best baluster spacing formula Greg Di Veteran Contributor Join Date : Sep 2004 Location : Bergen County , NJ Posts : 4404 # 1 The best baluster spacing formula 09 - 25 - 2006 , 07 : 03 PM There has to be at least 10 different ways to calculate baluster spacing out there . What is your formula ? 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I compare them all and pick the spacings that are the closest to the same for all the sets . I put the spacing into the memory of my calculator . Then I poke plus memory recall , plus memory recall , plus memory recall . Then I butt the tape to a newel , go out the spacing make a mark and that ' s the further edge of the spindle from the newell or wall . If they are curved as so many of mine were , I rip a bunch of thin , straight grained stlcks , cut them so they fit between newels etc . Mark which one goes where and do my measurements and layouts on them . If they want them the same as the handrail spindles , I just get the closest whole number to that spacing . All right ! All right ! Sometimes I cheat just a little bit . But only if somebody ' s being an @ $ $ * * * * . Regards , Jimc Last edited by jim @ miterclamp . com 09 - 25 - 2006 , 08 : 02 PM " Experience " is what you get only just right after you needed it . http : / / www . miterclamp . com / Images / tarpon_mouth . jpg Cheers , Jim Jon Blakemore Jun 2004 Location : Fredericksburg , VA 652 # 3 09 - 25 - 2006 , 09 : 14 PM Re : The best baluster spacing formula Originally posted by Greg Di View Post What is your formula ? Measure distance between newels / posts ( 55.125 " ) . Subtract 4 " and divide by 4 " + baluster width ( { 55.125 - 4 } / { 4 + 1.5 } = 9.295 ) . I round my quotient up and that number is the number of balusters ( 10 ) . Now , I multiply the number of balusters by their width ( 10 * 1.5 = 15 ) . This give me the amount of space that all of my balusters will occupy , which also tells how many inches I have for the space between the balusters . I divide this " space " by the number of balusters + one ( 40.125 / 11 = 3.648 ) . Now I know exactly where to place my first mark so I will end up with equal spaces . I then add the width of the balusters to my spacing ( 3.648 + 1.5 = 5.148 ) and store that in memory . The calculator I use has a function where I can repeat a function by just hitting the equal sign , so I just keep adding the total unit length ( 5.148 ) until I place the last baluster . Jon Blakemore www . RappahannockINC . com Trim Carp Jun 2005 Location : North East 283 # 4 09 - 26 - 2006 , 07 : 56 AM Jim , We do the marking on a scrap that fits between the posts on every layout : 1 . It allows us to make small ( less than a 1 / 16th ) for the spacing in the middle of the layout if they do n ' t come out exactly right . So we do n ' t have to erase and re - layout . 2 . we mark for the bottom of the spindles . Use a level to transfer the mark up to the rail at each end ( this gives us two referance points to make sure we are not making a mistake ) . Then we use the layout scrap in to mark off the rail . Since we have been doing this : the balusters are always parralel , always plumb , we can drill the rail on the flor before installing it on the post so there is no dust in out face and it is much easier to drill on the floor than up into the rail . " We do not see things as they are ; we see things as we are " - Talmud Joe Wood Jun 2004 Location : San Diego 570 # 5 09 - 26 - 2006 , 09 : 15 AM This is how I do it when I want equal spaces everywhere . Just imagine a baluster buried on the edge of each post , and measure the OC distance between them . Keep dividing that number until you have your spacing right . Attached Files BalusterSpacing_C . jpg ( 70.0 KB , 1 view ) Last edited by Joe Wood 09 - 26 - 2006 , 09 : 28 AM http : / / woodsshop . com / Location : SE Florida 1185 # 6 09 - 26 - 2006 , 11 : 10 AM Originally posted by View Post Just imagine a baluster buried on the edge of each post , and measure the OC distance between them . Which equals distance between posts plus one spindle diameter / width . Trim Carp We do the marking on a scrap that fits between the posts on every layout : Most of my guys did it this way as well . It is certainly an excellent way to do it . It also has the advantage that you can endo the ripping to check your layout , and use the ripping to layout directly onto the handrail by evening up the two ends in cases where newel base and cap are different widths . I personally did not do it this way because I never got a chance to get my sheet together enough to keep track of everything , since I had to stop all the time to talk to somebody or go bid another job . I checked my first and last mark with a tape then used a short stick with 4 or 5 centers marked to check the rest . I add the width of the balusters to my spacing ( 3.648 + 1.5 = 5.148 ) and store that in memory . Jon is doing the same thing as the rest of us as well . He just subtracts out the sum of all the spindle diameters in the beginning then adds them back in at the end , one to each spacing length . So basically , Greg , you have the same technique done in different orders . I would use separate layout sticks for each run if I did n ' t have to worry about the cleanup crews throwing them in the dumpster every time I left the job . Actually , when I was younger , and had a loud voice and a short temper , I think it was my own perverse crew who used to throw them out when I was gone just to have some good entertainment , on dull days , when I got back . Regards , Jimc " Experience " is what you get only just right after you needed it . http : / / www . miterclamp . com / Images / tarpon_mouth . jpg Cheers , Jim TSJHD1 Sep 2005 Location : Washington , DC 4714 # 7 09 - 26 - 2006 , 05 : 54 PM Measure between posts , and add thickness of one baluster . Divide that number by the sum of the code - allowed space between balusters , and the baluster ' s thickness at its thinnest point . Round that number up to next whole number . That ' s how many spaces you ' ll have . Divide the number of spaces into the distance between posts , including the baluster thickness , to get the spacing . Put that number in memory . Find the center - point between posts , and layout from there in both directions . If the number of spaces is ' even ' , the center - point will be a baluster ; If its ' odd ' , the center - point will be a space between balusters . In that case , divide your spacing dimension in half , and locate the two balusters on each side of the Recall the number from memory , and add it to the number in memory , then hit " = " . Just keep hitting " = " to get successive layout locations . Check yourself at the ends : the space between last baluster and post should be the same as between each baluster . If you are laying out on an incline , find the angle of inclination , enter that as ' pitch ' , enter your code - allowed spacing plus baluster thickness as ' run ' , then hit ' diag ' . You ' ll use this number to divide into the distance between posts , as measured on the incline . Hope that came out clear . Tom 1 ) Unconsciously Incompetent : He knows not , and knows not that he knows not . He is a fool . Shun him . 2 ) Consciously Incompetent : He knows not , and knows that he knows not . He is simple . Teach him . 3 ) Unconsciously Competent : He knows , and knows not that he knows . He is asleep . Wake him . 4 ) Consciously Competent : He knows , and knows that he knows . He is wise . Follow him . May we all endeavor to progress from not knowing that we know not , to knowing that we know . Roger Everett Jun 2006 Location : St . Augustine , Fl . 324 # 8 09 - 26 - 2006 , 08 : 31 PM I try to keep it as simple as possible , no calculator , it ' s only a little math . On a straight run like a balcony - measure the distance between posts , or post and rosete or wall - - add 1 " at each end ( posts are tapered and turned , generally smaller area is 1 " less then square or round base of post , and code calls for a 4 " sphere test , so you want baluster next to posts 1 " closer , and wall to balance layout visually ) - - say run is 98 " + the 2 " = 100 " - - Now if you ' re using ( that goes in rail ) is 5 / 8 " , so 1 / 2 of is 5 / 16 " - - so 5 / 16 " + 4 " + 5 / 16 " = 4 5 / 8 " max . ctr . to ctr . of balusters , I deduct 1 / 4 " ( layout safety factor ) , So max . layout is 4 3 / 8 " - - divide 100 " by 4.375 ( the guys that did n ' t get A ' s in H.S. math now is the If you have a curved balcony , I draw the ctr . of baluster run , then use a 1 / 4 " X 1 " rip about 5 - 6 ' long to step it out to measure run distance , then proceed as above . On something like a knee wall going up the stairs at rake angle , 4 " layout ( plumb ) = close to about 5 " up the rake . I take my pitch block and mark the 4 3 / 8 " as above and square a line to the angle cut , then measure to it down the angle , just a SWAG but it would be about 5 1 / 2 " - - that is your max . layout going up the rake . Again measure run and add the 1 " at each end and The harder parts come in generally with metal balusters . For instance , I had been doing stairs and railings at a resort home developement ( you know a 1 / 2 mill lot with a 1 / 2 mill trac home with a little gingerbread ) , the designer had speced on all the homes a layout of a - straight - twist - basket - twist - straight and continuing . He wanted all baluster runs to keep the pattern and start with a straight and end with a straight . Which ment that you needed to use I do n ' t know if I covered it all - been a 10 hr . work day and now it ' s getting past bedtime . HTH Roger The main idea is to be smarter than a piece of wood iwoodknot Nov 2004 Location : Maryville , Tn . 435 # 9 09 - 26 - 2006 , 09 : 17 PM I ' m getting dizzy from all the formulas . Maybe I ' m out of sync with most everyone else , but I do n ' t go to near as much trouble as everyone else . I use a simple pair of dividers . Once the maximum center to center dimension is determined , I set my dividers to that dimension , start from the center of the run , and ' walk ' the dividers toward the newel post . If the layout dose n ' t work out just right at the newel post , I Paul " Success is not final , failure is not fatal . It is the courage to continue that counts . " Winston Churchill john @ bankheadwoodworks . co Jan 2006 Location : Syracuse Ut 150 # 10 09 - 26 - 2006 , 11 : 35 PM I am with Paul ( iwoodknot ) about all the formulas . I pull out the dividers and walk it out . The only time I start in the middle is if have a pattern in the iron balusters that requires on specific baluster centered . The formulas gave me a headache after installing two or three stair jobs a week , and I think the dividers are more accurate . John Joe Carola Location : Caldwell , NJ 3143 # 11 09 - 27 - 2006 , 05 : 46 AM iwoodknot I ' m getting dizzy from all the formulas . Paul Paul , There ' s nothing to get dizzy over . You have a formula and just use it . It ' s only seconds on a calculator . All you do is just use the thickness of the baluster . I use this every time . Multiply the number of balusters x the width of the balusters and subtract that from the measurement in between posts . Take that number and subtract it from the number of spaces and that ' s your answer . You know that your spacing will be one more than the amount of balusters . If you have 55 " in between posts and using 1 - 1 / 2 " balusters and pick 10 balusters , that would give you 11 spaces . 10x1 . 5 = 15 55 - 15 = 40 40 / 11 = 3.636364 " or 3 - 5 / 8 " This is a drawing I made using the spacing from a deck I did last year . Attached Files Baluster Spacing . JPG ( 139.6 KB , 1 view ) Joe Carola peterson New Member Aug 2004 Location : 19 # 12 09 - 28 - 2006 , 06 : 05 PM Oh I probably should get paid for this guys , but I ' ve had a lot of help here , so here ' s my Excel spreadsheet for spacing balusters . I put it on my Palm Tungsten for easy access . Enjoy . I wish more people would post formulas etc especially in the Computer forum , but it does n ' t seem to have much . Actually I have n ' t attached a file , how do you attach an Excel file ? Jeff B Location : Danbury , CT 729 # 13 09 - 28 - 2006 , 06 : 35 PM Excel files are not vaild attachments for this forum . If you want to share the file , you will need to find a host for it and link directly in your post . The current valid file attachments are : bmp gif jpe / jpeg / jpg pdf png skp txt Jeff B 09 - 28 - 2006 , 06 : 37 PM gwiese Regular Contributor Location : S.E. Michigan 85 # 14 09 - 28 - 2006 , 10 : 57 PM Here is another solution to try if you have a Palm Handheld . Email me if you want it and i ' ll send it out . BalusterLayoutScreenShots . gif ( 93.3 KB , 1 view ) Gary W . Location : Caldwell , NJ 3143 # 15 10 - 04 - 2006 , 09 : 59 AM There was another thread going on at BT and between the posts at the top the measurement is 84 - 3 / 8 " . The baluster at the top is 5 / 8 " O.D . This is what I did with my Construction Master Calculator . Add the 5 / 8 " to 4 " and get 4 - 5 / 8 " and divide the width between posts by that number . In this case it comes out to 18.24324 " . Now use 18 for the amount of balusters you would need giving you 19 spaces . If the decimal came out over 18.5 , then you wopuld use 19 for the baluster amount . I used 18 balusters also . 84 - 3 / 8 " [ M+ ] / 4 - 5 / 8 " = 18.24324 " 18 x 5 / 8 " = 11 - 1 / 4 " [ Rcl ] [ M+ ] - 11 - 1 / 4 " = 73 - 1 / 8 " / 19 = 3 - 27 / 32 [ M+ ] ( Space between newel and first baluster and every balaster ) + 5 / 16 ( half of 5 / 8 " ) = 4 - 5 / 32 " [ M+ ] [ Stor ] [ 1 ] ( Center # 1 Baluster from Newel ) + 5 / 16 " = 4 - 15 / 32 " ( Centers up to the 18th Baluster ) [ Rcl ] [ 1 ] Returns - 4 5 / 32 " + 4 - 15 / 32 " = 8 - 5 / 8 " ( Center of 2nd Baluster ) Continue pressing = = 13 - 3 / 32 " = 17 - 9 / 16 " = 22 - 1 / 32 " = 26 - 1 / 2 " = 30 - 31 / 32 " = 35 - 7 / 16 " = 39 - 29 / 32 " = 44 - 3 / 8 " = 48 - 27 / 32 " = 53 - 5 / 16 " = 57 - 25 / 32 " = 62 - 1 / 4 " = 66 - 23 / 32 " = 71 - 3 / 16 " = 75 - 21 / 32 " = 80 - 1 / 8 " ( Center 18th Baluster ) + 4 - 5 / 32 " = 84 - 9 / 32 " or 84 - 5 / 16 " ( To Newel ) This leaves you with the same 3 - 27 / 32 " spacing from Newel to Baluster on both ends and in between every Baluster . 1 2 3 Next | [
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http://forums.jlconline.com/forums/forum/jlc-online-peer-to-peer-forums/tools-equipment/22214-siding-or-roofing-nailer-for-hardiplank | Siding or Roofing Nailer for Hardiplank Page of 2 Filter cornbread New Member Join Date : Jun 2005 Location : Southeast Tennessee Posts : 5 # 1 Siding or Roofing Nailer for Hardiplank 08 - 12 - 2005 , 09 : 30 AM I ' m about to start my first Hardiplank job , so I ' m trying to decide which is the better tool for me to buy . I ' ve been doing primarily interior remodels and decks , but as the business is growing , I ' m starting to get requests to bid siding jobs and additions . I have no interest in running a full - time production siding crew - I really only anticipate four or five siding jobs a year . So I ' m ready to invest in two nailers , and I ' d love some advice . I ' ve read through a whole bunch of threads here , and I ' ve read this week ' s version of Hardie ' s installation instruction , and as best I can tell , my options for blind - nailing are to use either a siding nailer or a roofing nailer . My take on it is that the siding nailer is really the right tool for the job . The problem is cost and availability . The only siding nailer available locally is about $ 150 more than a decent roofing run I can get all over town . I ' m a small business , and do n ' t have a big annual tool budget . Three hundred extra dollars seems a bit extravagant for tools I ' ll only use on a few jobs a year . And if the gun is hard to find , I worry The pros for the roofing nailer are then exactly the problems for the siding nailer - cost and availability . However , are coil roofing nails typically hot - dipped or electroplated ? Of course , I ' ll want hot - dipped . Another concern that I read in several threads is that roofing nailers can somtimes be a little underpowered for fiber cement . Finally , how about versatility ? Are there other applications for these tools that might affect my decision ? I ' ll most likely always sub out any actual roofing work , so the obvious use of the roofing gun is off the table . I ' d really appreciate any thoughts or advice . On a side note , WTF is up with Hardie ' s ever - changing installation instruction ? My partner and I drove all over town yesterday looking for siding nailers , and at the end of the day at the Orange Box , he pulled the instruction sheet off the Hardiplank display . It allowed for a 6d full - round head nail for blind - nailing . A nail our framing guns will shoot . I thought he was going to kill me . Heck , I was ready to kill myself . But I felt like I Tags : None gburnet Veteran Contributor Join Date : Jul 2004 Location : Western suburbs of Chicago Posts : 5553 # 2 08 - 12 - 2005 , 04 : 52 PM Re : Siding or Roofing Nailer for Hardiplank Where to start . . . We ' ve used both roofing & siding nailers for Hardi . You ' re right about making sure the roofing gun has enough power . We have an older Makita & a new Bostitch that are fine . Used a Hitachi once , & it would leave the nails proud a good 1 / 4 " My advice is to make sure you test before you buy . As far as other uses for the guns , we also use our roofing gun to nail off backer board & gypsum sheathing . We use our siding guns ( Bostitch & Makita , also ) for siding & exterior trim , sheathing , misc . deck parts ( railings , lattice , etc . ) , & the occasional fence ( usually an access repair , after we ' re done with the addition , or whatever larger project that neccessitated the removal of the fence ) . IMHO , you ca n ' t go wrong with a siding nailer . You can get stainless nails for it , use it on both wood & Hardi , & probably find other uses for it as well . The nails can sometimes be tough to find , but there are always online stores that carry them . Here are a few links . . . http : / / manasquanfasteners . com / http : / / www . stainless - fasteners . com / http : / / www . mcfeelys . com / nails . asp Oh , as far as nailing , any full round head nail is okay , IIRC . Just do n ' t use a clipped head gun . Greg Greg Brian Crisler Veteran Contributor Jul 2004 Location : Fayetteville , Georgia 346 # 3 08 - 12 - 2005 , 05 : 34 PM Re : Siding or Roofing Nailer for Hardiplank Let me suggest the Hitachi NV75AG . It is a coil gun that shoots nails from 1 3 / 4 " to 3 " . The gun uses standard 15 degree wire or plastic collated nails . It has enough power to drive nails thru the Hardi plank . If you use the gun , set the depth of drive adjustment . We use it for everyhting from framing to fascia to nailing subfloor . I hope this helps . Brian James Eggert Moderator Jun 2004 Location : Branford , CT 06405 3675 # 4 08 - 13 - 2005 , 10 : 42 AM OK , I ' m still biased to the MAXX cr5500 ? siding guns , never had to do anything to them for the last three+ years . I agree with Greg that you can and will use a siding gun for many things . Just be sure to have an adjustable depth of drive on whichever gun you buy so you can leave the compressor alone ! By the way , I would read every thread here about Hardi spacing because it has changed thru the years . I now install it " whisper tight " or just slightly close , hard to explain , but I do not caulk joints , period . Last edited by James Eggert 08 - 13 - 2005 , 10 : 44 AM Take Care Jim Bill Robinson Moderator Location : NOLA 5018 # 5 08 - 13 - 2005 , 11 : 19 AM The Maxx one is a bit better than the others . You can buy " Hardie " nails for some framing guns , HDG from Maze http : / / www . mazenails . com / catalog / sidingnails . htm They are plastic colated . A coil siding nailer will save you SO much time . If you ca n ' t amortize the cost of one of these tools maybe you are not charging enough for the work . Buy the coil nailer . You will be gald at the end of the first day of using it . Bill R www . train2rebuild . com Twitter Dancing Dan Jun 2004 Location : Portland , ME 6311 # 6 08 - 13 - 2005 , 11 : 33 AM I ' ve been using my Bostitch magnesium roofer for blind nailing - the big head makes me feel more secure . No jokes please . It ' s worked great . I had the same problem with a borrowed Hitachi roofer - left the nails proud . On the other hand , I use my Hitachi coil sider a lot - nail off all my exterior trim with SS ring shanks , what little siding we do , etc . If you can only buy one gun , I ' d go with that one over a roofer - I ' ve got the NV65AH . Carl Owens New Member Location : jacksonville , fl 19 # 7 08 - 13 - 2005 , 01 : 47 PM I install Hardibacker for tile . Hitachi sells a gun designed for HBB . It is power pack equipped , and the gun number is NV45AB2H . This can be found at 18005986657www . hitachi . us / powertools . com The HBB I install is 1 / 2 inch thick . Hope this helps . Last edited by Carl Owens 08 - 13 - 2005 , 02 : 05 PM Mark Parlee Location : Des Moines , Iowa 4197 # 8 08 - 13 - 2005 , 11 : 21 PM Cornbread Come on give us your first name , it seems kind of corny to call you cordbread . Some questions for you : Do you really want to gear up to install Hardiplank ? Do you have the scaffold it takes to do the job in a reasonably safe and time efficient manner ? How are you going to cut the stuff ? Shears or a saw ? If a saw , what blade , or do I use both ? What about the dust ? What is the best caulk to use ? What trim at the corners ? What material are you siding over , wood , foam , or impregnated sheathing ? Just a few of the questions . There are a lot of people installing Hardi around my area . 99 % of the install around here is technically deficient as far as correct sound detailing goes There isnâ € ™ t a week that goes by that I donâ € ™ t get a couple of calls to come look at some job to see if â € œmy contractorâ € installed the siding right . I havenâ € ™ t found a â € œgood jobâ € yet . Most generally the problems are in the clearances , the nailing , the caulking , and the flashing . Right now I have three jobs lined up just to repair the siding details that someone else installed . I use the Hitachi NV75AG for siding and the NV65AH for soffit , â € œmost of the timeâ € I set the depth of drive to leave the nail aprox . 1 / 8â € proud , then tap set it home . This draws the siding up better than any method I have yet found . If you really are going to pursue this there really are a lot of posts here that we have discussed most of these issues . Please give consideration to my questions and let me know if you have any questions of your own as you get started . Mark Mark Parlee BESI ( building envelope science institute ) Envelope Inspector EDI Certified EIFS Inspector / Moisture Analyst / Quality Control / Building Envelope II EDI Seminar Instructor Level one thermographer ( Snell ) www . thebuildingconsultant . com www . parleebuilders . com You build to code , code is the minimum to pass this test . Congratulations your grade is a D - dakota Location : Central SD 601 # 9 08 - 14 - 2005 , 10 : 57 AM I have been using my Bostitch roofing gun for blind nailing . The larger heads hold better and give me the wind rating I need for my area . I also have less rattling with the larger head . I use a Makaita siding nailer for all surface nails . It is nearly identical to the Hitachi . Mark is correct if you want to do this learn how to do it right . The other thing not mentioned in the posts is cement board siding dose not work well on crooked walls . So if you are siding on cornbread Jun 2005 Location : Southeast Tennessee 5 # 10 08 - 14 - 2005 , 07 : 27 PM Thanks for all the replies . I ' ve decided to go with the siding nailer . I can buy the same gun online for $ 375 that my local supplier wants almost $ 500 for . I know some of y ' all would give me a hard time for not buying from the local business , but the $ 250 saved on two guns is real money to me . Plus , shipping - even FedEx overnight - is cheaper than our ridiculous 9.25 % sales tax . Also , the local guy scared me off when he Originally posted by Cornbread Come on give us your first name , it seems kind of corny to call you cordbread . Fair enough , I ' m Ben , good to meet you . But some people actually do call me Cornbread - it ' s not that uncommon a nickname in the South . Yes , we ' re hillbillies . Some questions for you : Do you really want to gear up to install Hardiplank ? Yes . Because I know I ' ll take the time to learn and do it right . Then I do n ' t have to worry about a sub half - assing it . Do you have the scaffold it takes to do the job in a reasonably safe and time efficient manner ? Scaffold rents for dirt cheap around here - less than $ 1 / day per section . And I ' ll only do a few siding jobs a year , so there ' s really no need for me to buy it . How are you going to cut the stuff ? Shears or a saw ? If a saw , what blade , or do I use both ? What about the dust ? Outside with a circular saw with dust collection and Hardiblade . I just might even wear my respirator . What is the best caulk to use ? Per James Hardie , " a latex sealant that complies with either ASTM C834 or ASTM C920 ( Grade NS , Class 25 ) . " Is there something particularly difficult that I ' m missing ? Yes , I do know what ASTM standards are - I used to do geotechnical QA / QC consulting and a large part of my job was setting up soils testing labs to perform testing in accordance with ASTM standards . And no , I wo n ' t be caulking butt joints - that whole " moderate contact " thing . If What trim at the corners ? Harditrim . What material are you siding over , wood , foam , or impregnated sheathing ? On this job , plywood sheathing . I havenâ € ™ t found a â € œgood jobâ € yet . Most generally the problems are in the clearances , the nailing , the caulking , and the flashing . You can come check out my work when I ' m done . I appreciate your concerns , but I really have done my research and planning on the product and its proper installation . I may even try to get the local Hardi rep to come by my job . There ' s a lot of discussion about right and wrong ways to install Hardi , but I have n ' t seen much on the relative pros and cons of two right ways . Location : Des Moines , Iowa 4197 # 11 08 - 14 - 2005 , 07 : 54 PM Thanks Ben As I said let us know how it goes and of any questions Caulking = vulkem or some other good brand of urathane based caulk . Some here have refered to the 25 year siliconized caulks , do n ' t do it they will fail in the short term . The new best practices manual from Hardie does say not to use ring shank nails Mark BESI ( building envelope science institute ) Envelope Inspector EDI Certified EIFS Inspector / Moisture Analyst / Quality Control / Building Envelope II EDI Seminar Instructor Level one thermographer ( Snell ) www . thebuildingconsultant . com www . parleebuilders . com You build to code , code is the minimum to pass this test . Congratulations your grade is a D - monty1 Location : West Coast of Canada 110 # 12 08 - 18 - 2005 , 05 : 38 PM Hi Mark , i have read before where you refer to the " best practices manual " Where did you get that from ? My supplier can not get it either and i was wondering if i can get it online anywhere . Monty Brian Crisler Location : Fayetteville , Georgia 346 # 13 08 - 18 - 2005 , 08 : 26 PM Just Google Hardiplank . I downloaded it and printed the information from their website . Everything is broken up into seperate materials ( Hardiplank siding , Hardipanel , sofit , trim etc . ) . Brian # 14 08 - 18 - 2005 , 11 : 05 PM Monty I go it from the person Hadie hired to go around to all the suppliers and set training seminars . Each attendee receives one . Donâ € ™ t know where you can get yours . I wll make a call and see how widespread this training is going to be Brian What you downloaded is the application instructions . The manual that I am referring to is an entirely different piece of information # 15 08 - 19 - 2005 , 08 : 29 PM Mark : Thanks for the information . I ' ll see if I can locate the best practices booklet . 1 2 Next | [
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http://forums.justoldtrucks.com/78473/1970-Autocar-A7564T | Home Forums Members Trucks 1970 Autocar A7564T 1970 Autocar A7564T Posted By Brad K 4 Years Ago You dont have permission to rate 1 2 3 4 5 1970 Autocar A7564T Author Message Brad K Posted 4 Years Ago First Gear Group Forum Members Last Active 2 Years Ago Posts 28 Visits 200 A few years ago I started looking for a classic truck to haul my 1903 Case steam tractor to local shows I saw an Autocar at the Berryville VA steam show and loved the looks so I started searching for a restorable truck After looking at a few trucks needing too much work or missing too many parts I finally found one that looked promising In August 2014 my father and I bought this truck a 1970 Autocar A7564T tractor with 350 small cam Cummins Fuller RTO915 trans Freightliner 4 spring suspension unknown 411 rears aluminum cab aluminum frame and The previous owner gave me about 20 photos that came with the truck when he got it He didnt know much about the history but the photos show 2 previous owners These photos appears to show the original owner and the truck in somewhat original condition It had the factory suspension and original air cleaner in these photos but Mack mirrors aftermarket headlights rooftop AC Name on the truck is Morgan and it appears to be PA license plates The following photos show a 2nd owner working on the 1st restoration of the truck I assume this was done in the 90s sometime The data plate in the truck says it originally had a 335 Cummins but someone put in a 1972 small cam NTC350 Im not sure when that happened but the 2nd owner swapped the original velvet ride suspension and spoke wheels for a Freightliner 4spring and aluminum Budd wheels Name on the truck here is PollockReading Temple PA and a recycling symbol I suppose that means the truck on the trailer is being scrapped These photos show the modified truck for sale again Im not sure whats with the Bugs Bunny front of hood and Yosemite Sam mud flaps theme of the truck 1970 Autocar A7564T Cummins SC NTC350 RTO915 1986 Loadking 352 DFP folding gooseneck trailer a7564t autocar cummins rto915 small cam 350 Quote TonyClemens Posted 4 Years Ago 5th Direct Group Forum Members Last Active 5 hours ago Posts 626 Visits 93K I always loved the looks of those trucks About 72 I built an AMT Autocar kit of a truck just like it Wish I still had that model Quote Brad K Posted 4 Years Ago First Gear Group Forum Members Last Active 2 Years Ago Posts 28 Visits 200 The person I bought the truck from did some work on it It now has dual 5 straight pipes aluminum Merritt rear fenders chrome visor new rear wheel seals new brake pads and new rear spring brake chambers I dont know who put the bonnet on the air cleaner but it was made from a house roof vent Ive since replaced it with an actual Donaldson chrome air cleaner bonnet The passenger door is painted over but I can still read T E Newman JR Shamokin PA This is my first experience with a semitruck and its a challenging learning curve Im not used to air brakes unsychronized transmissions with highlow ranges no front brakes no power steering its a handful to drive but Im doing alright I plan to do what I can to make the truck a reliable runner learn everything I can about it and document what Ive got and what I need to do to maintain it Im hoping this blog will help me keep track of what Ive learned and answer the questions I have about the truck Starting with the engine The previous owner claimed his mechanic identified the engine as a 400 Magnum The engine data plate is missing but the PT pump has a plate that shows CPL 695 which corresponds to the 400 Magnum reconditioned engines However this engine appears to be missing a number of the parts associated with a true 400 Magnum It has an aluminum oil pan old style aftercooler Holset HT3B turbo and high oil pressure 60psi warm but it does have a pulse manifold and 25b Jake brakes I have no idea what pistons or injectors are in it 1970 Autocar A7564T Cummins SC NTC350 RTO915 1986 Loadking 352 DFP folding gooseneck trailer Quote Brad K Posted 4 Years Ago First Gear Group Forum Members Last Active 2 Years Ago Posts 28 Visits 200 My plan is to do something of a restomod I want to maintain the classic look of the truck but update it with some modern conveniences and accessories The engine starts and runs well has great oil pressure 60psi warm seems to have plenty of power and sounds great One issue Ive found is that the fan runs constantly It has a Horton air clutch on the fan that is air engaged There is an electric solenoid that supplies air to the clutch and is activated by a temperature switch but also has a manual override in the cab This solenoid is apparently stuck open causing the fan to run whenever the truck has air pressure Im planning to replace the solenoid replumb the air supply and rewire Many of the gauges dont work either and the wiring under the dash is a nightmare So Ive got almost a dozen Isspro gauges on order for replacement and I hope to clean up the mess of wiring and make it easier to remove the dash for maintenance Theres about 3 switches on the dash that I cant identify what they do At least one of them is a short and I can hear the breaker behind the dash clicking when I switch it on I assume one of the unidentified switches was to control the windshield washer Im planning 1970 Autocar A7564T Cummins SC NTC350 RTO915 1986 Loadking 352 DFP folding gooseneck trailer dash gauges horton isspro shutterstat Quote Tony Bullard Posted 4 Years Ago 13th direct Group Administrators Last Active 2 hours ago Posts 29K Visits 131K Boy that is a rats nest of wires in the dash Youd have to be a contortionist to work on it I like the original Autocar heater Are you thinking about putting power steering in Its gona be a bear in tight places with your trailer and steam tractor loaded Tony Quote Brad K Posted 4 Years Ago First Gear Group Forum Members Last Active 2 Years Ago Posts 28 Visits 200 Im hoping the Isspro gauges help cleanup the wiring The power ground and backlight wires can be daisy chained from gauge to gauge Theres also a lot of extra wiring thats been added over the years Ive seen a couple junk yard trucks that have hydraulic power steering on them that Ive thought about scavenging but its not a high priority right now Air assist may be an easier way to go and help out in the tight spots Looking at the old photos of my truck it almost looks like there was some kind of power steering at one time Can anyone identify this item on the drag link Is it a valve for air assist Or maybe it used to have air assist and someone removed it and welded in a solid piece in place of the valve 1970 Autocar A7564T Cummins SC NTC350 RTO915 1986 Loadking 352 DFP folding gooseneck trailer Quote wayne graham Posted 4 Years Ago 13th Over Group Forum Members Last Active 2 days ago Posts 43K Visits 85K I would guess that it had air assist and was removed If I were to want power steering for that truck I would find the stuff to install hydraulic power steering That is just my opinion Looks like you got a nice project and you have done the right thing by getting a plan together before you start You are correct that the guage wiring can be daisy chained The wiring for that truck should be fairly simple just time consuming As far as the cummins goes if it is working well I would probably leave it alone Tearing into I cried because I had no shoes till I met a man who had no class Quote Aaron Posted 4 Years Ago 13th direct Group Forum Members Last Active 6 hours ago Posts 28K Visits 90K Wayne is correct that was an air steering brain If you run across the junkyard power assist steering set ups grab them for a hobby truck they will do fineIve got one on a working truck and its just fine There are a couple different types I believe garrison was the most popular it has a brain in the drag link and a ram on the tie rodIve put several of those on over the years the other is Vickers and it mounts to the sector arm and is attached to the truck fram I ran one truck with it and didnt care for it Driving the greenies nuts httpwwwkillcarbcom Quote wayne graham Posted 4 Years Ago 13th Over Group Forum Members Last Active 2 days ago Posts 43K Visits 85K Aaron you are correct that is all he needs for a hobby truck but I havent seen one in a bone yard for a long time I cried because I had no shoes till I met a man who had no class Quote Tony Bullard Posted 4 Years Ago 13th direct Group Administrators Last Active 2 hours ago Posts 29K Visits 131K One down side to air assist is they use a lot of air and run out quickly with a lot of maneuvering Heres an early Vickers set up It works great but theres a little too much free play in the wheel Heres a Garrison Both are hydraulic Tony Attachments Vickers Power SteeringJPG 11 views Garrison control valveJPG 10 views Quote 1 2 3 4 5 | [
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http://forums.lakersground.net/togo/thread.php?topic_id=71309 | LakersGround . net To Go | Off Topic When do NBA players get paid ? Author : Isaiah Posted : 07 / 29 1 : 21 AM I ' ve always wondered when NBA players get paid during the season . . Is it like everyone else , like every two weeks they get paid a portion of their salary or something ? REPPIN 818 wrote : Some people get paid up to 70 % of their salery at the beginning of the season I believe . 24KaratGold wrote : I think Kobe does , because when he signed the contract he had a lot of legal bills to pay . And there was a big thing about it last year when people speculated that he would be getting traded before he got his paycheck . vandido626 wrote : everytime I get paid the deductions on my paycheck just floor me . . . . . . .wonder what the deductions look like for KB and the others LarryCoon wrote : 24KaratGold wrote : Kobe ' s contract says the following : " 70 % of first season ’ s salary paid on August 15th and all remaining seasons on September 1st . " Actually I had to do some research last year to determine what would happen if the Lakers paid him his lump sum , and THEN he was traded . LakersGround . net To Go | Off Topic | [
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http://forums.llli.org/showthread.php?109862-When-will-milk-come-in | Forum Breastfeeding Support Breastfeeding Your Baby When will milk come in ? ? The LLLI Mother - to - Mother Forums is closed to new registrations as of Monday , November 20 , 2017 . Please join us at the new LLLI Breastfeeding Support Community on Inspire . com , or in the LLLI Breastfeeding Support Facebook Group . For more information , see the Forums Closing announcement . Results 1 to 10 of 10 Thread : When will milk come in ? ? Thread Tools March 10th , 2012 , 10 : 59 PM # 1 @ llli * jynae New Arrival Join Date Mar 2012 Location Osage , Iowa Posts 5 When will milk come in ? ? I gave birth via c - section on March 2nd as a first time mom and I still have no milk . I have colostrum but am having to supplement with formula via a small little tube that is taped to my breast during each feeding . Thus , my breast is stimulated and she is getting what she needs for nourishment . I nurse her every 3 - 4 hours as that seems to be when she ' s hungry . I nurse on each breast for 15 minutes each . I ' m wondering how long it will take and / or how long do I wait before I throw in the towel ? Also , what can I do Thank you ! Any advice will help . March 10th , 2012 , 11 : 44 PM # 2 @ llli * duckpond Dedicated Supporter Join Date Jun 2008 Location TX Posts 1,806 Re : When will milk come in ? ? Congratulations on your new little one ! Do n ' t throw in the towel ! Sometimes it just takes a little ( or a lot ) longer for milk to come in , especially if there was any disruption in the course of birth . You ' re already well ahead of the game doing all your supplementing at the breast instead of in a bottle . Every 3 - 4 hours is not terribly frequent to be nursing . I ' m not sure how much of a to - do it is to nurse with an SNS , but it might help your milk come in faster if you could nurse every 2 hours or so . Maybe you would n ' t even need the SNS for every single feed , if she ' s not terribly hungry at some of them . My best friend ' s son was in the NICU for almost 2 weeks , and it took her 10 days of pumping round the clock to get her milk to come in , but it finally did , and she went on to nurse him with no difficulties . Last edited by @ llli * duckpond ; March 10th , 2012 at 11 : 57 PM Teal 25 May 96 and 14 January 08 and 27 February 2012 March 11th , 2012 , 01 : 17 AM # 3 @ llli * maddieb Queen of LLLactation Nation Jun 2009 10,764 Re : When will milk come in ? ? First I want to understand why you think your milk has not " come in . " Many moms beleive they do not have enough milk when all is normal . Milk " coming in " is really just the transition from colustrum to more abundant milk , and it can be quite gradual and is not always a dramatic and obvious event . So please explain what is happening that makes you think all you are making is colustrum . Many things can cause low milk supply or prevent effective milk letdown . Is nursing painful ? Are you still on strong painkillers for the c - section ? Is there any possibility some of the placenta was left in you ? Is baby able to latch and nurse effectively ? Also I agree with pp . A newborn would typically nurse a minimum of 10 - 12 times in 24 hours and some nurse way more . Are you holding your baby lots and nursing on the earliest cues ? If you do not like using the lactation aid , try adding on some additional nursing sessions without the lactation aid and see what happens . If you were given a lactation aid I assume you had access to some lactation services . They need to be following up with you ( or you with them . ) If you indeed need to supplement , that is an issue that is not solved by using a lactation aid - or rather , the aid solves the immediate issue of baby getting enough , and its a very helpful tool as you avoid the pitfalls of bottles and yes , have stimulation at the breast . But what is being done to solve the milk supply issue Some info that may help : http : / / www . llli . org / docs / 00000000000 . . .astfeeding .pdf http : / / www . llli . org / docs / 00000000000 . . .eding _cues . pdf http : / / www . llli . org / docs / 00000000000 . . .py _newborn . pdf http : / / www . kellymom . com / bf / normal / newborn - nursing . html Last edited by @ llli * lllmeg ; March 11th , 2012 at 01 : 21 AM March 11th , 2012 , 02 : 28 AM # 4 @ llli * lovemygirlso1 Shares Widely And Frequently Nov 2011 435 My advice is to nurse more often . At least every 2 hours if not more . Also remember that colosturm is MUCH higher calorie than BM and only a very small amount needs to be consumed for baby to get as much as they need . Sometimes supplementing can delay the milk . Honestly , what I would say is to just nurse every single time baby acts hungry . Without the supplementer . Even if that ' s every 20 minutes . Nothing will help you produce more milk faster than nursing very very often . My DD2 Melissa Young SAHM of Afton ( A1 ) ( 1 / 24 / 09 ) and Autumn ( A2 ) ( 8 / 29 / 11 ) Sealed in the SLC Temple and and now CDing ! 11 : 56 AM # 5 @ llli * jynae New Arrival Mar 2012 Osage , Iowa 5 Thank you all for responding . I ' ll try to answer your questions to give you a better idea of what I ' m experiencing . - My baby weighed 7lb 10oz at birth on March 2nd . - I started breast feeding right away 15 minutes each side and it seemed like it was every 3 - 4 hours then . There was no mention by nursing staff that I should be doing it sooner . - My baby kept sucking on her hands and being fussy and it was recommended that I give a pacifier as it would n ' t be good to allow the baby to use my breast as a comfort measure if she was n ' t hungry . . . .which led me to believe that she needed to be " pacified " . - On March 4th my baby had lost nearly 10 % of her body weight and thus it was recommended I start supplementing . We started with 15 minutes breast feeding each side followed by formula from a bottle . .about 1 oz . - Baby tolerated that okay , but was n ' t the best with the bottle . . .seemed to have a lot of spit - up and / or was n ' t swallowing as well . At any rate , the next time I went to breast feed her she wanted nothing to do with my breast . I was a bit discouraged but nursing staff helped me with using a syringe to get the taste of milk in her mouth and then she would suck on my breast . However , once the taste of formula went - It was at this time when another nurse suggested the assist device and I ' ve been using that since . - Baby has latched great since the very beginning . - I last had narcotics last Wednesday and I take 800mg IBP as needed which usually is 1 - 2 times per day . - Nursing has n ' t been painful at all . I put the Medela lanolin on my nipples after each feeding . - Baby had her first pediatrician visit last visit and had gained back 3oz . - I do n ' t believe there is still any part of the placenta inside me . My bleeding slowed way down and have n ' t had cramping , etc . - I hold my baby a lot but did n ' t realize I needed to offer my breast with any little sign of hunger so I appreciate your advice on this . - I feel as though my milk has n ' t come in because when I self - express ( which is once in a great while just to see if anything is still coming out of my breast ) it is still clear and colostrum looking ; my breasts have not changed at all since giving birth ; I have n ' t had engorgement , heaviness , leaking , etc from my breasts . Essentially , aside from minimal soreness of my nipples that I ' ve had since I found out I was pregnant , my breasts - There was n ' t a lactation consultant at the hospital where I delivered . . . .unfortunately . . . .so I had to rely on the nursing staff to give me advice , etc . If there is other advice you can offer me now I would appreciate that too . I ' m am trying today to nurse her at every sign of hunger and we ' ll see what happens . It ' s hard for me to stay dedicated to breast feeding at this point . 02 : 38 PM # 6 @ llli * aprilsmagic Queen of LLLactation Nation Mar 2006 10,429 . I think what is happening to you is what happened , to sme extent , with my first . That pacifier . My own mother suggested I use it because he was nursing every hour . And little did I know , that is normal . Fortunately , I had already been given advice to pump after every feeding , and I naturally tend to OS and OALD , so he gained OK . But if I was normal in production , that pacifier can derail breastfeeding because baby needs to suck at the breast to bring in your milk fully . A few thoughts I have : Nurse more . Yes , wake the baby . Dream feed . Nurse more . Feed with the SNS . Start at the breast , give a bottle , then always end at the breast . Spend 3 days doing nothing but watching wets and loops and nursing . You can come back . I fought nipple confusion / preference with my oldest child for 8 weeks before he stopped fighting me at every feeding . And then I nursed that baby for 2 years You can overcome . Meanwhile , pitch the pacifier and hold off on the bottles . The pump still has a place ; try pumping after baby nurses , and try pumping one side while nursing the other . Susan Mama to my all - natural boys : Ian , 9 - 4 - 04 , 11.5 lbs ; Colton , 11 - 7 - 06 , 9 lbs , in the water ; Logan , 12 - 8 - 08 , 9 lbs ; Gavin , 1 - 18 - 11 , 9 lbs ; and an angel 1 - 15 - 06 18 + months and for Gavin , born with an incomplete cleft lip and incomplete posterior cleft palate Sealed for time and eternity , 7 - 7 - 93 Always babywearing , cosleeping and cloth diapering . Living with oppositional defiant disorder and ADHD . Ask me about cloth diapering and sewing your own diapers ! 06 : 31 PM # 7 Thank you so much , Susan ! I was never told to pump after every feeding so I never have . I rented a hospital grade medela pump and have had it at home since the day I was discharged from the hospital . I just got it out and pumped in the last half hour and low and behold I got some milk out . I got probably a 1 / 2 oz from my right breast and less than that from my left . It did give me some hope ! I ' m sure that ' s not enough to keep baby satisfied . I will definitely use your suggestions . Thanks again ! 07 : 02 PM # 8 EDIT : Whoops ! I was writing this long post and did not see that you are now pumping and saw milk . Well , your milk has finally come in ! Congratulations ! Normal output for one pumping session at this point if a mom is also nursing would be about 1 / 2 ounce to 2 ounces total . So , you are looking really good , imo . So , some of what I have posted below may be too cautious . You may be able to reduce the supplementing much faster than I was thinking . - My baby weighed 7lb 10oz at birth on March 2nd . - I started breast feeding right away 15 minutes each side and it seemed like it was every 3 - 4 hours then . There was no mention by nursing staff that I should be doing it sooner . - My baby kept sucking on her hands and being fussy and it was recommended that I give a pacifier as it would n ' t be good to allow the baby to use my breast as a comfort measure if she was n ' t hungry . . . .which led me to believe that she needed to be " pacified " . Agree with pp . The above sounds like a recipe for harming milk supply . I am so sorry you had such terrible advice in the hospital but by no means am I surprised . I am also not surprised your baby lost 10 % of birth weight , for one thing , some weight loss - up to about 10 % is often perfectly normal after birth , and in this case it looks like your baby was simply were not nursing enough . You should have been encouraged at that point to simply nurse more . A 10 OK , so now to fixing the problem : You say - I feel as though my milk has n ' t come in because when I self - express ( which is once in a great while just to see if anything is still coming out of my breast ) it is still clear and colostrum looking ; my breasts have not changed at all since giving birth ; I have n ' t had engorgement , heaviness , leaking , etc from my breasts . Essentially , aside from minimal soreness of my nipples that I ' ve had since I found out I was pregnant , my breasts Leaking means nothing , some people leak and others do not and it has nothing to do with supply . Engorgement means little and is something you want to avoid anyway , if possible . But your breasts would normally have some heavyness or change in feeling , usually sometime between day 2 and day 6 after birth . And its odd the milk is still " clear . " I do n ' t know what to make of that . One thing to know is that pumps are less effective than well nursing babies at extracting milk - I think its too early to know if this is just a milk supply issue brought about by nursing mismanagement in the early weeks , ( my guess ) or some type of physical condition that is preventing mature milk . If you can see a private lactation consultant for an appointment I would strongly encourage you do so . They should spend about 90 minutes with you and really help you get to the bottom of things . Get recommendations from local LLL , doctor , friends , the LC at the hospital , anyone , and call a couple to find one who can see you soon and who you feel comfortable with . It may be very helpful to do some before and after nursing weight checks to see what baby is actually getting at the breast without the lactation aid . You want to do more than one , as one The good - really , great news , is that you have kept baby nursing at the breast . This is vital , because the most important thing to do when trying to increase milk supply is to have baby nurse frequently . If you have a good pump and can add a few pumping sessions a day as well , do that , but DO NOT stress about what you are making and what is looks like . Just pump to give extra stimulation if baby wo n ' t nurse more . It would be great if baby Your goal will be to slowly decrease the supplements while nursing more . It may be hard to get baby to nurse more without first reducing the supplements . Moms in this situation are of course nervous about reducing supplements , but it is part of the process . This can be a tricky time and it is best to do this under the care of a lactation consultant or a breastfeeding knowledgeable and supportive pediatrician . Remember that many many moms struggle with low supply ( or suspected low supply ) in the early days and go on to nurse their babies just great . This is likely fixable , especially since this is such early days and hormonally your body will be working with you in increasing supply . It will take effort but I have never heard a mom say that effort was not worth it . Read these articles and use what you think will work for you . Weaning off formula supplements ( ONE suggested protocol ) : http : / / www . kellymom . com / bf / supply / decrease - formula . html Increasing milk supply : http : / / www . kellymom . com / bf / supply / low - supply . html Last edited by @ llli * lllmeg ; March 11th , 2012 at 07 : 10 PM March 14th , 2012 , 01 : 00 PM # 9 @ llli * laurenc Friend of the Forum Maryland 74 To be honest , I did n ' t start producing enough milk until 6 days after I returned home from the hospital . . . by then over a week has gone by and my poor baby was n ' t getting anything in the meantime . I would still pump and massage , but nothing would come out until the end of day 6 ( and even then , it was only a few drops ) . We ended up having to supplement with forumula until I was able to produce more . Do n ' t give Proud of Baby March 14th , 2012 , 03 : 21 PM # 10 @ llli * magnoliahoney Shares Widely And Frequently Aug 2010 Kansas 424 I say go and buy the latest Womanly Art of Breastfeeding book and read it cover to cover . It ' s a awesome book . As every one else said ditch the pacifer . When some one gives you advice ( and plenty of people will ! ) I try to think of things organically ! Before there was . . . .before there was formula what would some one do ? Before there was pacifers what would some one do ? Before there was x what would some one do ? You get it ? 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http://forums.maplestory2.nexon.net/discussion/35849/need-help-deciding-between-knight-priest | Please do not send inquiries to the Forum Moderators and Community Manager Cuddles regarding forum name changes Exceptions are only made if the forum name violates the CoC Thank you for understanding Need help deciding between Knight Priest Cylil Maplestory 2 Rep 1670 Posts 78 Member 828AM July 22 2018 edited 251AM July 24 2018 So Ive played both the first CBT and this one and already tried many classes heavy gunner sin knight priest zerker However Im still sorta inbetween two classes that I cant seem to fully decide between for release Im mainly a solo player but I dont mind joining teams when necessary That being said What class do you think is better andor more enjoyable for an endgame solo PvE player such as myself If you could offer info as to the Why below thatd greatly be appreciated Also while Im not looking too much into other classes especially the ones Ive already tried feel free to offer another class suggestion if you feel theyre more enjoyable for said role Thank you for your time EDIT Im aware of the typo in my polls question but I can not edit polls once theyre made TT What class should is most enjoyablebetter for solo endgame PvE 36 votes Knight 36 13 votes Priest 44 16 votes Other please explain why below 19 7 votes Warame Maplestory 2 Rep 1690 Posts 53 Member 842AM July 22 2018 You already answered your own question You said you prefer to play alone Priest is not very good soloing they are made for party play And you already tested other classes So Knight is the way to go Cylil Maplestory 2 Rep 1670 Posts 78 Member 855AM July 22 2018 Warame wrote You already answered your own question You said you prefer to play alone Priest is not very good soloing they are made for party play And you already tested other classes So Knight is the way to go Well thats the thing While I havent reached max lvl or endgame with either priest or knight during my testing with them I found them to both be able to handle dungeons and the missions Ive played with both fairly well If I have the time this CBT Id like to rank up and get an even better understandingfeel for the two classes but as it currently stands I found both to be quite viable for solo play thus far If you have any counterargument to why you find knight the better option for soloing Id genuinely like to know just trying to gather as much feedbackinfo from others who have played extensively with either or both classes mmvii Maplestory 2 Rep 4890 Posts 661 Member 910AM July 22 2018 I agree about priest being good solo the dps is a little slow but the survivability is great and you never need to use potions I assume end game solo with a priest will take a while but save a bunch of money on potions Mine is only 28 atm but I think I might try taking her to 50 and see how she handles the normal lvl 50 dungeons My knight is only 13 so he hasnt done any dungeons or grinding yet so not sure how they fair M0USE Maplestory 2 Rep 405 Posts 3 Member 915AM July 22 2018 I made priest at the start of the cbt2 and I didnt really like it and now I got 50 level knight and I like it I find it more fun and priest is not really my style its mostly aoe healing HoIy Maplestory 2 Rep 4220 Posts 248 Member 1019AM July 22 2018 edited 1019AM July 22 2018 As of now since cap is only 50 you only truely solo until you hit the level 50 cap With that being said being a solo priest it will be a lot easier for you to find people to queue up with because priest is in such a high demand Knight is kinda the same but not as sought after The only bad thing about these two classes is that their dps is low compare to other dps classes Knight is really good at 1v1 I think they are the best class and I would put priest as top 3 for small scale pvp I know hardcore guilds are literally making priest alts so that their guild can progress faster soif I were you I would pick priest since it seem the most solo player friendly in terms of finding people to do end game content etc Conscious Maplestory 2 Rep 1235 Posts 77 Member 321PM July 22 2018 priest is the way to go imo they have attacks that damage and heal at the same time and are completely selfsufficient so you never have to worry about pot cooldown or not having enough spirit and theyre decent attackers too depending on what ur focusing on in ur skill tree youd probably just need to beef up your equipment for endurance Unlimited Maplestory 2 Rep 12640 Posts 200 Member 631PM July 22 2018 edited 633PM July 22 2018 In terms of solo go with the Priest because the Knight is a useless class in this game Not even for partyplay is it any useful Seriously what kind of a Tankclass could not even tank If it could not tank then its a DPSclass its DPS is not good I would prefer a Berserker over this their defence are in par In terms of survivability even a Berserker is better because of spintowin and better mobility I played both a Berserker and Knight to my surprise the Knight died more Save yourself some headache and go with the Priest Cylil Maplestory 2 Rep 1670 Posts 78 Member 946PM July 22 2018 edited 949PM July 22 2018 Oh wow thank you all for your feedback on this Good to hear both sides of the coinwoodworks on this While I still havent fully decided yet but such input will surely help me decide come release Thanks again everyone o kawingshek Maplestory 2 Rep 7460 Posts 566 Member 718AM July 23 2018 edited 722AM July 23 2018 Unlimited wrote In terms of solo go with the Priest because the Knight is a useless class in this game Not even for partyplay is it any useful Seriously what kind of a Tankclass could not even tank If it could not tank then its a DPSclass its DPS is not good I would prefer a Berserker over this their defence are in par In terms of survivability even a Berserker is better because of spintowin and better mobility I played both a Berserker and Knight to my surprise the Knight died more Save yourself some headache and go with the Priest I think you need to experience a bit more of the endgame dungeons that requires a Knight to mitigate heavy raid wide AoE damage Knights can also debuff and buff your allies so thats also something that makes it easier for your healer in party During my 12hr stream leveling 150 on alt Knight i already learned how to tank propertly by telling party memberviewer to stand behind me character so I can block projectiles Unlimited Cylil Noctous Maplestory 2 Rep 615 Posts 2 Member 744AM July 23 2018 Hi Experienced Endgame Raid Knight here Knight is not useless You block deadlyOHKO boss mechanics for your party endgame And to do so you have to STUDY the boss mechanics and have proper positioningtiming Im not kidding when I say people will LOVE you if you know what you are doing and can support the party properly Most people havent gotten to the point to realize this yet so right now they are underappreciated Damage isnt terrible Especially if you know how to play it and know mechanics Other classes can still be outdpsd if the knight is skilled It has good mobility and can easily dodge attacks You have Drill Thrust along with your regular stamina dash 3 dashes in a row And even some mobility while attacking Its easy tonot die In short its wellrounded and does its job Play it if you like the skillsgameplay Oou Maplestory 2 Rep 1035 Posts 32 Member 909AM July 23 2018 I havent reached level 50 on my Knight but from what Ive read on the KMS2 inven forums the Knight class is pretty versatile depending on your skill tree so I think it fits what you are looking for more than a Priest Priests are fairly limited and even if you go full DPS I dont think itll be fun to solo PVE content and Priests in general are way more catered to party play Knights are also important in party play but its definitely reliant on your skill tree so you have a lot of flexibility Kind of going off topic but I feel like theres no such thing as SOLO endgame PVE content because a lot of the endgame content is going through the dungeons that are not possible to complete solo with the current items available in the game If you mean just to read max level and be able to do nondungeon related content why do you want to limit your choice between Knight and Priest Any of the other classes would fit you better if what you are looking for is a class thats catered to solo endgame PVE content Cylil Maplestory 2 Rep 1670 Posts 78 Member 1027AM July 23 2018 edited 1037AM July 23 2018 Oou wrote Kind of going off topic but I feel like theres no such thing as SOLO endgame PVE content because a lot of the endgame content is going through the dungeons that are not possible to complete solo with the current items available in the game If you mean just to read max level and be able to do nondungeon related content why do you want to limit your choice between Knight and Priest Any of the other classes would fit you better if what you are looking for is a class thats catered to solo endgame PVE content Im more thinking in the long run as Im not usually a fan of making multiple charactersclasses and like to bog down and focus my timeeffort on a single class I know that GMS2 is still in its beta phase so a lot of it is subjugated to change As stated in my original post I am open to hearing other suggestions of other classes if you feel they suit better for what Im suggesting but the reason I ended up ultimately deciding between priest or knight is due to the fact of how I enjoyed their gameplay the most as well as filled the role I was looking for compared to the other classes that Ive tried thus far To clarify By solo endgame PvE I am just generalizing any sort of highlvl veteran PvE contentbe it dungeons raids or just map mobboss fighting as I am thinking longterm Im not personally concerned for being super strong in one role or being able to cleardo dungeons efficiently Instead I would more like to focus on a class that is able to handle PvE solo in general 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http://forums.mikeholt.com/showthread.php?t=144204 | Forum Active Forums Electrical Calculations / Engineering LSIG Breakers . If this is your first visit , be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above . You must register before you can post : click the register link above to proceed . To start viewing posts , select the forum that you want to visit from the list below . User Tag List Page 1 of 2 1 2 Last Results 1 to 10 of 13 Thread : LSIG Breakers . Thread Tools 03 - 26 - 12 , 09 : 32 PM # 1 ElectDesigner Member Join Date Nov 2011 Location Ontario , Canada Posts 64 Mentioned 0 Post ( s ) Tagged 0 Thread ( s ) LSIG Breakers . I would just like to know more about LSIG breakers , firstly when ( at what amperage ) are they specified ? What I have seen typically is that designers specify LSIG breakers once the service size / bus rating of the main swbd at and above 800A ( @ 600V ) . However on smaller services ( 400A and below ) - I dont usually see this being specified . 03 - 26 - 12 , 09 : 47 PM # 2 Jraef Moderator Join Date Jul 2006 Location San Francisco Bay Area , CA , USA Posts 8,570 Mentioned 0 Post ( s ) Tagged 0 Thread ( s ) Originally Posted by ElectDesigner I would just like to know more about LSIG breakers , firstly when ( at what amperage ) are they specified ? What I have seen typically is that designers specify LSIG breakers once the service size / bus rating of the main swbd at and above 800A ( @ 600V ) . However on smaller services ( 400A and below ) - I dont usually see this being specified . It ' s not directly related to the amperage rating , it ' s about system coordination . In a coordinated protection system , you want a fault to be cleared at the closest point to the fault , not at a larger system level unless absolutely necessary . Since that concept moves up the line , the higher you get in the distribution system , the longer you need the upstream devices to hold in without tripping . So as you get up there , the trip settings need more adjustability beyond what you see in an off - L ong time , S hort time , I nstantaqneous and G round fault tripping . Because they are a lot more expensive , you do n ' t go there until you have to , so that explains why you usually do n ' t see them used until you get to higher current ratings . __________________________________________________ ____________________________ Many people are shocked when they discover I am not a good electrician . . . 10 : 09 PM # 3 templdl Senior Member Feb 2003 Wisconsin 4,354 In most cases LSIG is an option that makes it posible to coordinate breakers . LSIG , Long time , Short time , Instantaneous , and ground fault are options that are available in breakers that electronic trip units . Breaker frames that have interchangeable trip units commonly start out with 250a frames , 400a , 600 , 800 , 1200a etc . A 250a frame can have a trip unit that is available down to 75a - 250a , the 400a ( 70 - 400a ) , 600a ( 125 - 600 ) , 800 ( 400 - 800 ) , 1200 ( 400 - 1200 ) . LIG is fairly common where you would have a rating plug which rated the breaker a specific amp rating , and adjustable magnetic ( I ) , and ground fault pick - up ( G ) all which should be self explanatory . There is also an LSI option . The ( s ) for short time delay really does n ' t bring much to the party unless there is a party , that is if it is related to with breakers . The adjustable short - time allows the breaker to be coordinated with another breaker or breakers such that the breaker closest to the even is given the opportunity to trip and clear first . The ' I ' , is for adjustable short time pick up and delay with a pick up of 200 - 800 % as an example . After pick up then the delay can be set on some breakers up to 100ms while on larger breakers 100 - 500ms . Between the two adjustments it provides you with the capability to coordinate breakers . And likewise with ground fault , on smaller breakers the GF pick up range available can vary while on larger frames it can be from 25 - 100 % of the frame rating not to exceed 1200a . Then you have the delay which often is inst . to 500ms on the smaller frame to 100 - 500ms with larger frames . Just like the ( s ) you are given the ability to coordinate . Please note that the time delay is limited to 500ms because of the breaker ' s withstand capablity These options are expensive and should not be specified unless you have a reason . Having these options does n ' t make a breaker better . Last edited by templdl ; 03 - 26 - 12 at 10 : 16 PM 10 : 18 PM # 4 Member Nov 2011 Ontario , Canada 64 Originally Posted by Jraef It ' s not directly related to the amperage rating , it ' s about system coordination . In a coordinated protection system , you want a fault to be cleared at the closest point to the fault , not at a larger system level unless absolutely necessary . Since that concept moves up the line , the higher you get in the distribution system , the longer you need the upstream devices to hold in without tripping . So as you get up there , the trip settings need more adjustability beyond what you see in an off - L ong time , S hort time , I nstantaqneous and G round fault tripping . Because they are a lot more expensive , you do n ' t go there until you have to , so that explains why you usually do n ' t see them used until you get to higher current ratings . Thanks Jraef - well explained , now that think of it - makes more sense , because the available fault current varies depending on a number of factors ( utility , transformer etc . . ) - you would always want to do a co - ordination study especially if its large distribution system , the results of this study would then dictate the interrupting capacity / response characteristics of downstream electrical equipment , an electronic breaker gives you more flexibility . Just out of curiosity do you know how much it would cost if you hire someone to do a co - ordination study of say a medium sized distribution system ? 10 : 42 PM # 5 templdl Senior Member Feb 2003 Wisconsin 4,354 Thanks Jraef - well explained , now that think of it - makes more sense , because the available fault current varies depending on a number of factors ( utility , transformer etc . . ) - you would always want to do a co - ordination study especially if its large distribution system , the results of this study would then dictate the interrupting capacity / response characteristics of downstream electrical equipment , an electronic breaker gives you more flexibility . Just out of curiosity do you know how much it would cost if you hire someone to do a co - ordination study of say a medium sized distribution system ? Interrupting capacity has to do with the available fault current and nothing to do with LSIG . Getting a system coordination study can be of a benefit first to assure that the breakers are suitable for the available fault in different parts of the distribution system . The only thing that would come into play as far a kaic ratings and available fault current is series rated devices which again LSIG is not a relevant factor . The second thing is to consider coordination of the devices in order to isolate event to as far down in the distribution system as practical such that there are less possibilities to interrupt power to a large portion of the distribution system . That ' s where LSIG comes into play . 11 : 03 PM # 6 Interrupting capacity has to do with the available fault current and nothing to do with LSIG . Getting a system coordination study can be of a benefit first to assure that the breakers are suitable for the available fault in different parts of the distribution system . The only thing that would come into play as far a kaic ratings and available fault current is series rated devices which again LSIG is not a relevant factor . The second thing is to consider coordination of the devices in order to isolate event to as far down in the distribution system as practical such that there are less possibilities to interrupt power to a large portion of the distribution system . That ' s where LSIG comes into play . Interesting . Wouldnt this mean that some downstream equipment would also require the LSIG option - making the system - overall more expensive ? Just interested to how coordination was achieved prior to the invention of LSIG breakers ? 03 - 27 - 12 , 01 : 22 AM # 7 Interesting . Wouldnt this mean that some downstream equipment would also require the LSIG option - making the system - overall more expensive ? Just interested to how coordination was achieved prior to the invention of LSIG breakers ? By nature of a higher ampacity breaker before a lower ampacity breaker there would be coordination if you look at the trip curves for thermal . It ' s the Inst . and GF that it could become a race as all breakers in series in that circuit would see the event . That ' s where the adjustable I and G are very helpful as one can not only assure that the pick - up of the upstream device is set max and adjust the delay at the lowest point which would give the down stream device a very As for older breaker with the common physical thermal magnetic elements the thermals coordinate by the time current curves . The instantaneous element looks good on paper but instantaneous is instantaneous and who knows how high and how fast fault current will rise to a point where the event will be to a point where the current will peak a where it can trip any of the breakers in series with the fault and then it becomes pot luck . Yes , I have been not very happy in a home where there is a fault in a branch circuit All to aften electrical evens are unpredictable at best and we only hope that they would be within our coordination plans . 03 - 27 - 12 , 11 : 44 AM # 8 brian john May 2003 Leesburg , VA 7,108 I would just like to know more about LSIG breakers , firstly when ( at what amperage ) are they specified ? What I have seen typically is that designers specify LSIG breakers once the service size / bus rating of the main swbd at and above 800A ( @ 600V ) . However on smaller services ( 400A and below ) - I dont usually see this being specified . We have sites with 30 amp and larger circuit breakers with LSIG . Depens on the engineer and how much money the customer has . Brian John Leesburg , VA 01 : 40 PM # 9 brian john We have sites with 30 amp and larger circuit breakers with LSIG . Depens on the engineer and how much money the customer has . Are they 100 - 150a frames ? If so that is awesome that they can get the current sensors and electronice tucked into them . That gives more ability to coordinate with them as down stream devices . 05 : 01 PM # 10 Moderator Jul 2006 San Francisco Bay Area , CA , USA 8,570 . . . Just interested to how coordination was achieved prior to the invention of LSIG breakers ? Back in the olden days ( wow , I ' m sounding like my dad now . . . ) we used trip curves printed to the same scale on trace paper ( then later on clear plastic ) and physically overlayed them to coordinate them . In a lot of cases you had to go to larger breakers than necessary just to make the curves work , which meant larger conductors etc . The advent of electronic trip breakers actually has probably saved a lot more money than they cost . __________________________________________________ ____________________________ Many people are shocked when they discover I am not a good electrician . . . 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http://forums.mikeholt.com/showthread.php?t=148716 | Forum Active Forums NEC Class 2 wiring vs Class 3 If this is your first visit , be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above . You must register before you can post : click the register link above to proceed . To start viewing posts , select the forum that you want to visit from the list below . User Tag List Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 Last Results 1 to 10 of 23 Thread : Class 2 wiring vs Class 3 Thread Tools 10 - 26 - 12 , 09 : 08 AM # 1 Dennis Alwon Old Man Moderator in Chief Join Date Dec 2006 Location Chapel Hill , NC Posts 34,422 Mentioned 4 Post ( s ) Tagged 0 Thread ( s ) Class 2 wiring vs Class 3 I was told by a wire company that if I could use class 3 wiring for the low voltage system that is rated class 2 . Is this true ? They say I shot a man named Gray and took his wife to Italy She inherited a million bucks and when she died it came to me I ca n ' t help it if I ' m lucky 10 - 26 - 12 , 09 : 17 AM # 2 petersonra Senior Member Join Date Aug 2004 Location Northern illinois Posts 17,418 Mentioned 0 Post ( s ) Tagged 0 Thread ( s ) Originally Posted by Dennis Alwon I was told by a wire company that if I could use class 3 wiring for the low voltage system that is rated class 2 . Is this true ? there is a confusing matrix of wiring methods for class 2 and 3 wiring . it seems like most of the stuff used in class 3 wiring can indeed also be used in class 2 wiring . i ca n ' t recall ever doing any class 3 wiring though . Bob 09 : 19 AM # 3 Old Man Moderator in Chief Dec 2006 Chapel Hill , NC 34,422 4 Post ( s ) Originally Posted by petersonra there is a confusing matrix of wiring methods for class 2 and 3 wiring . it seems like most of the stuff used in class 3 wiring can indeed also be used in class 2 wiring . i ca n ' t recall ever doing any class 3 wiring though . I have some cable - class 3 that i bought years ago for speakers - - 12 / 2 . They say I can use it but the manufacturers of the product have no idea . I have never understood this class wiring They say I shot a man named Gray and took his wife to Italy She inherited a million bucks and when she died it came to me I ca n ' t help it if I ' m lucky 09 : 34 AM # 4 guschash Senior Member Sep 2004 Ohio 811 0 Post ( s ) The only thing I could find was in the definition 725.2 class 3 circuit . It says C3 are permitted to have higher levels of voltage than C2 . gusco 10 : 13 AM # 5 guschash The only thing I could find was in the definition 725.2 class 3 circuit . It says C3 are permitted to have higher levels of voltage than C2 . That is exactly what I see so IMO class 3 can be used and I am going with it . I did talk to a very knowledgeable inspector in Durham who said the same thing . Thank you 10 : 20 AM # 6 dicklaxt Apr 2010 833 Makes sense to me for what ever thats worth . dick 11 : 21 AM # 7 augie47 Moderator Jul 2005 Tennessee 16,472 If you found an inspector that understands all the nuances with Class 2 and 3 he is indeed " knowledgeable " At my age , I ' m accustomed to restaurants asking me to pay in advance , but now my bank has started sending me their calendar one month at a time . 11 : 43 AM # 8 don_resqcapt19 Moderator Feb 2003 Illinois 24,042 The permitted cable substitutions are shown in Table 725.156 ( G ) . It is clear that a CL3 cable can be used anywhere a CL2 cable is required . There is also a figure that shows the substitutions . Don , Illinois ( All code citations are 2017 unless otherwise noted ) 11 : 48 AM # 9 RB1 May 2006 415 Class 3 cable is permitted to be used for Class 2 wiring . CL3P is at the top of the heap . It can be used for any application of Class 2 , or Class 3 wiring . There is no Class 3 cable within the same classification of use ; i.e. , plenum , riser , general purpose or dwelling that can not be substituted for Class 2 cable within the same classification . 12 : 13 PM # 10 Here is what I do n ' t understand about this . I can run this class 3 wire thru the walls and connect to a low voltage system that does not have a wiring compartment - lights with tails sticking out or leads if you will . I can just use wire nuts however if I run NM cable , mc cable - - and do the same then it is a violation . At least that is my understanding Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 Last Quick Navigation NEC Top Bookmarks Posting Permissions You may not post new threads You may not post replies post attachments edit your posts BB code is On Smilies are On [ IMG ] code is [ VIDEO ] code is HTML code is Off Forum Rules | [
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http://forums.mtbr.com/general-discussion/when-get-concerned-about-tic-bite-516242.html | Forum Classic Mountain Bike Forums General Discussion When to get concerned about a tic bite ? Results 1 to 19 of 19 Thread : When to get concerned about a tic bite ? LinkBack Thread Tools 05 - 05 - 2009 # 1 bank5 mtbr member Reputation : Join Date May 2008 Posts 1,956 When to get concerned about a tic bite ? I just found a tick on me . It was probably on me since the last time I rode - 2 days ago . It had n ' t blown up yet so I do n ' t think it had taken it ' s blood meal . Can a tick transmit diseases if it has n ' t taken it ' s blood meal ? Is there anything I should keep an eye on for the next couple of days ? Last edited by bank5 ; 05 - 05 - 2009 at 02 : 22 PM 05 - 05 - 2009 # 2 rabidchicken mtbr member Reputation : Join Date Apr 2009 Posts 811 Look for flu like symptoms or a target - like rash around the bite site . Otherwise , keep it clean and go on with life . # 3 Finch Platte Flat Pluto Society Nov 2003 16,079 Originally Posted by bank5 I just found a tic on my . It was probably on me since the last time I rode - 2 days ago . It had n ' t blown up yet so I do n ' t think it had taken it ' s blood meal . Can a tic transmit diseases if it has n ' t taken it ' s blood meal ? Is there anything I should keep an eye on for the next couple of days ? You need to hie thyself to a doc , and get fixed up . There ' s all sorts of info out there ( Google ) , but you ' re a prime candidate for Lyme after waiting so long . There ' s all sorts of MTBR posts re : ticks . Do a search . http : / / forums . mtbr . com / search . php ? searchid = 8000638 fp Food has replaced my sex life - I ca n ' t even get into my own pants . # 4 Ken in KC Probably drunk right now Jan 2004 6,749 Adding to Finch ' s Advice . . . The incubation " safe " period is 24 hours . Anything over 24 hours and you ' re at risk . I ' m not a doctor , so take this advice for what it ' s worth : 1 . Take a Sharpie and draw a circle around the bite to help determine if the bit is growing . 2 . Get to a doctor immediately . That ' s all I got for tick related medical advise on a mountain bike website . # 5 jamie_a4 Jun 2007 32 I live in the hotspot of Lyme disease and have already got the bullseye and the disease , no big deal , took the antibiotics and never felt the symptoms . I pull ticks off after almost every ride ( just got one yesterday ) I never worry , just keep an eye out for the bullseye or any spreading rash . After pulling literally hundreds off , only one ever caused me a problem and that was minimal . I think people really freak out about this more than is necessary , as they do for just about everything # 6 tao succinct Jan 2008 217 shake it off plunging like stones from a slingshot on mars . # 7 crashedandburned Jan 2004 2,822 Originally Posted by jamie_a4 I live in the hotspot of Lyme disease Same here . Ticks are a part of life . Last yr was particularly bad . I caught lymns at least once , but I suspect twice . First time I found a tick on the back of my leg . Bad rash but no bulleyes . Started feeling like cr @ p a few days later and just thought I was catching a cold . Went to Doc and had just mentioned that I was bitten by a tick as an after - thought . he puts me on the meds and draws blood . It came back neg but the rash turned into a bullseye a few days after the visit . He told me that even a blood test is n ' t always a The second time was after walking through a tall grass field . found over 30 ticks on me that even . I about threw up . A few days later I was feeling sick again . Blood test popped neg . and never saw a rash . Doc still put me on the meds just in case . I ' d say if you feel sick , then go to the doc . If you start getting a metallic taste in your mouth then I ' d say you got it but as another poster mentioned , just get the meds and it ' s no big deal . # 8 May 2008 1,956 I live in the hotspot of Lyme disease and have already got the bullseye and the disease , no big deal , took the antibiotics and never felt the symptoms . I pull ticks off after almost every ride ( just got one yesterday ) I never worry , just keep an eye out for the bullseye or any spreading rash . After pulling literally hundreds off , only one ever caused me a problem and that was minimal . I think people really freak out about this more than is necessary , as they do for just about everything That ' s great that you do n ' t have any bad symptoms . My friend has Lyme disease and is having a horrible time with the disease . Have you ever tried permethrin - http : / / www . rei . com / product / 768970 It works pretty well for keeping ticks off . Obviously I waited a little too long to put it on my clothes this year . # 9 Jun 2007 32 If you do n ' t catch Lyme disease quickly it can seriously F you up permanently but even if you miss the bullseye , the " flu like " symptoms are normally drastic enough to get to the doctor for the antibiotics . # 10 crashedandburned Same here . Ticks are a part of life . Last yr was particularly bad . I caught lymns at least once , but I suspect twice . In order for ticks to transmit Lyme disease and most other diseases they need take a meal and will enlarge , right ? That ' s what I read in a recent article but was wondering if anyone on here could confirm . Fortunately Lyme disease is pretty uncommon where I live ( NC ) . I think it was an American Dog Tick that bit me but they transmit other diseases like Rocky Mountain spotted fever and tularemia . I guess the best thing to do is keep an eye on where the bite was and if I feel sick in the next couple of days I ' ll see the doctor . # 11 FloridaFish yeah , uh . . . . . . . . . . . .bikes Mar 2004 2,712 In order for ticks to transmit Lyme disease and most other diseases they need take a meal and will enlarge , right ? That ' s what I read in a recent article but was wondering if anyone on here could confirm . Fortunately Lyme disease is pretty uncommon where I live ( NC ) . I think it was an American Dog Tick that bit me but they transmit other diseases like Rocky Mountain spotted fever and tularemia . I guess the best thing to do is keep an eye on where the bite was and if I feel sick in the next couple of days I ' ll see the doctor . I ' m still pretty sure I got tularemia from a tick bite a few years back . The bite got red and looked infected , and I felt " flu - like " so I went to see the doctor . They did n ' t test for lyme or anything else , the doc just put me on antibiotics and it cleared up . weird symptoms though , the sensitivity to light was what makes me think I had it . I spent a full day in my room with as little light as possible , i literally i ' d say keep the tick , it can always be tested if you ' re unsure . # 12 Finch Platte Flat Pluto Society Nov 2003 16,079 If you do n ' t catch Lyme disease quickly it can seriously F you up permanently . . . Yeah . Better safe than sorry , I say . I spent $ 45 on the doc / meds / blood test , and I would do it again if I got bitten next weekend ( but I plan to DEET out this time ) . Food has replaced my sex life - I ca n ' t even get into my own pants . # 13 The DEET is probably worse for you than the tics # 14 The DEET is probably worse for you than the tics I would n ' t doubt it . But DEET does n ' t feel like someone just punched me in the upper thigh , nor does it cause a rash or itch like a mofo , so at this point , I ' ll take my chances & keep using it a couple times a month . # 15 Manmountain Dense Big Boned Feb 2007 1,535 In order for ticks to transmit Lyme disease and most other diseases they need take a meal and will enlarge , right ? That ' s what I read in a recent article but was wondering if anyone on here could confirm . Not sure if that ' s true for all tick - borne diseases . I am first - hand certain it ' s not true of Colorado Tick Fever , which I caught last spring . It ' s caused by a virus , which is transmitted by the bite , not the feast . I picked up a hitchhiker in my beard , it bit me on the tip of my chin - - evidently in a spot where it could n ' t really get a good fix of blood . I found it after it had given up its fishing hole and was evidently off to search for a new spot - - it was wriggling around in my whiskers , not attached . I shook it off onto the counter and it was not engorged . I took a lighter to it and figured that was that - - I did Two days later , I was in the emergency room with a 104 - degree temperature , feeling like I ' d been hit by a truck . Aches , fever , nausea , light sensitivity , the whole deal . I lost 10 pounds because I just could n ' t eat anything . It was brutal . Oddly , CTF is far more common than Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever , which rarely actually occurs in the Rocky Mountains . But at least CTF wo n ' t kill you . It just makes you wish you were dead . And the really cruel thing is that the illness actually " pauses " after a couple days - - you start to feel better , you find you can actually walk and eat again - - and then BAM you ' re down again . I was effectively unable to get out of bed for 6 days , Permethrin . Good stuff . Very effective . I now spray my shoes , socks , gloves and pack - - trying to establish a perimeter . Not so big on spraying my clothes because it washes off anyway , but it works . # 16 crash821 Jan 2009 114 Any repellents safe for dogs ? Other than the repellent posted from REI , anybody tried any other brands ? Effective ? # 17 tskdmz Dec 2008 64 i think worrying about the tick bite is about as bad as the tick bite . i ' ve only had a few bites in 20 years of off - roading and each one had me sweating it out . nothing ever came of any of it except a little itchy bite mark . i do n ' t know how i would react to getting bit all the time . maybe i ' d relax more . . . Racing and complaining about it for 32 years 05 - 06 - 2009 # 18 2,822 In order for ticks to transmit Lyme disease and most other diseases they need take a meal and will enlarge , right ? That ' s what I read in a recent article but was wondering if anyone on here could confirm . Truth be told I do n ' t know . The first one I found on me was a large tick , but was n ' t engorged ; just naturally large . He was the one that gave me lymns for sure since I developed the bull ’ s - eye a week later . The others were smaller but I had over 30 of them on me . Most had already bitten me . Never developed a rash or anything but I did get sick almost like before . That ' s why I think I caught lynms twice . Lynms is a nasty disease . You can catch it and never know it . It can kill you if not treated . Before it does though it makes you feel like you have bad arthritis in your joints . 05 - 06 - 2009 # 19 fishbum Masher Aug 2007 533 Word is that less than 24 hrs attachment then you are probably safe . After that see your Doctor . It ' s true that blood tests early in the stages of Lyme are inconclusive , so most docs just put you on the antibiotics . Fever or headaches are other common signs something is up . . . I ' ve also heard that subsequent bites may not show the rash or bullseye symptoms , but I have not heard that confirmed . Which concerns me as I discovered a 5 " bullseye inside my knee last fall and had the antibiotics for 3 weeks . I never knew I was bitten . . . For dogs we use Frontline . . . Ticks attach and then die ( DIE MF ! ) . Last weekend training our retriever we cleaned 20 ( yes , twenty ) ticks off her before she got in the car ! Members who have read this thread : 0 Posting Permissions You may not post new threads You may not post replies post attachments edit your posts BB code is On Smilies are On [ IMG ] code is [ VIDEO ] code is HTML code is Off Trackbacks are Off Pingbacks Refbacks Forum Rules Contact Us mtbr . com Archive Web Hosting Top | [
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Maybe that ' s true , but since they have their Brain , FSR and A / M # aluminum technologies around for quite a while , it should be cheaper to buy one , but it ' s not . Carbon frames are even worse . Well , they sell a lot , so who am I to say ? # 3 amunoz83 Dec 2006 9 Originally Posted by Black RONIN Yes , ALL Specialized bikes are made in Taiwan , although they charge you hard bucks for their sleds . They say that ' s because they high - tech spec their bikes , and that cost real daddy bucks . . . Maybe that ' s true , but since they have their Brain , FSR and A / M # aluminum technologies around for quite a while , it should be cheaper to buy one , but it ' s not . Carbon frames are even worse . Well , they sell a lot , so who am I to say ? Thanks for the reply . I just saw the " New Cannondale - Made in China " thread ( link : http : / / forums . mtbr . com / showthread . php ? t = 304832 ) . I must say you added an interesting post there . # 4 Jerk_Chicken banned Oct 2005 16,457 A clear example of fleecing the consumer is how the companies that go overseas are still charging boutique or boutique + pricing on the frames . They sometimes try to claim it ' s because that manufacturing costs out there are on par with the US , which is a lie , even with shipping . If that were the case , then it would be a lot easier and sensible to have factories in the US with American workers and managers that can communicate easier and faster . It would make more sense to hire more workers for the companies that do some work in house . 06 - 09 - 2007 # 5 Jan 2007 1,505 All about hype . . . Originally Posted by Thanks for the reply . I just saw the " New Cannondale - Made in China " thread ( link : http : / / forums . mtbr . com / showthread . php ? t = 304832 ) . I must say you added an interesting post there . Thanks ! You see , I own a Specialized bike and like it . But I always loved Cannondales . I live in Brazil and here it ' s very hard for you to find the bike you really want - many importers do n ' t bring all the bikes from a brand ' s line , plus we have a very limited bike market ; these are top brands and very expensive here in our current money and Cannondale only have stabilished for real this year , and we do n ' t have really an official Specialized importer , My bike sure rolls and handles very well , ca n ' t tell it ' s not a good ride overall , but to compare Specialized to Cannondale , to me , is like having a Ford but looking at a shiny BMW . The Ford is good , but BMW is better . That ' s the way I feel about Specialized . Maybe I ' ll be crucified by saying this , here in a Spesh forum , but do n ' t get me wrong , I do like my Specialized bike A LOT . I My Specialized is a ' 05 Enduro 130 and now there is a lot of speculation around the new Stumpjumper , that is supposedly to be spec ' ed with the same numbers as mine . Take a look over here : http : / / forums . mtbr . com / showthread . ph . . .71268 # poststop . See ? They killed an already good bike in favor of hyped trends at the time and now they come back with a similar spec ' ed bike 3 years later . They should learn to keep what ' s good and just move it forward along the stream . But they are all about hype . And that really wears my patience out . They change the models too much within a small space of time too often . That makes you feel you always have a outdated bike , and worse , makes you wonder if it Like I said , who am I to say ? I own one of their bikes , and I have to give in , it ' s pretty darn good . But I still think they should start investing in a tradicional trend that defines them out of the hype trends . They can be innovative just keeping what ' s good in its place . That would be the best innovation Specialized could pull . Last edited by Black RONIN ; 06 - 09 - 2007 at 05 : 50 AM 06 - 09 - 2007 # 6 Trajan Feb 2004 1,347 Jerk_Chicken A clear example of fleecing the consumer is how the companies that go overseas are still charging boutique or boutique + pricing on the frames . They sometimes try to claim it ' s because that manufacturing costs out there are on par with the US , which is a lie , even with shipping . If that were the case , then it would be a lot easier and sensible to have factories in the US with American workers and managers that can communicate easier and faster . It would make more sense to hire more workers for the companies that do some work in house . Have you looked at a the dollar recently ? Not to mention the standard of living in Taiwan . Personally , I am shocked that Specialized - and many other companies - are still doing business in Taiwan . It is just way too expensive . Most companies making low tech goods left for the mainlands years ago . Very surprised that the bike companies have not . # 7 ar1981 Like catnip for people Oct 2006 400 A clear example of fleecing the consumer is how the companies that go overseas are still charging boutique or boutique + pricing on the frames . They sometimes try to claim it ' s because that manufacturing costs out there are on par with the US , which is a lie , even with shipping . If that were the case , then it would be a lot easier and sensible to have factories in the US with American workers and managers that can communicate easier and faster . It would make more sense to hire more workers for the companies that do some work in house . But specialized has a good reason to charge boutique pricing . All the litigation they get involved with costs a lot of money you know ? Sueing everyone under the sun , bankrupting the little guys . . . That is n ' t cheap ! 06 - 10 - 2007 # 8 Use the force Luke ar1981 But specialized has a good reason to charge boutique pricing . All the litigation they get involved with costs a lot of money you know ? Sueing everyone under the sun , bankrupting the little guys . . . That is n ' t cheap ! I was n ' t going to touch in this subject , but since you did . . . Specialized has a dark side and this is it . Specialized is not in the game among other players , they want to run the stadium and kick everybody out . It makes me wonder how they manage between politics and bikes , since they are always worried about others ' life and about what everyone is doing just to be sure if any of their so " hard earned " patents are n ' t being misused ( of course Specialized has its own way of understanding things , that always seemed a little distorted to me . . Many small productors just give up when they come across with all burocracy and obstacles ( demands , costs , project inputs ) that Specialized charges on them . Look , I ' m just being polite . I wo n ' t start any war in here . Politics and ideologies aside , what everyone should care here is about the bikes . Buying it or not for whatever reasons is a reason of your own , and we saw that a lot in other threads when things get confused . There are a lot of problems with Specialized , but those do n ' t come up because they are so over - rated these days , just how Sony was back then . And Sony smacked the ground and they had to adapt themselves to the real world . You bet one day Specialized will have to wake up . Hope before they hard - teeth smack the ground . That gonna hurt . 06 - 10 - 2007 # 9 MtnRider160 Mar 2007 10 A bunch of whining cry babies . You do n ' t like the company , dont buy the product ! Jeez . . . but there are obviously enough people out there that think it is a superior product or they would n ' t be buying it . 06 - 11 - 2007 # 10 mauricus Feb 2006 15 Please Explain A few of you have alluded to the dark side of Specialized . Could you please elaborate ? Without specifics this smacks of an internet smear campaign . AR1981 says that they have bankrupted the smaller players and I ' d like to know how they have done this and who they have done this to ? It is so easy to throw a blanket statement out there , but if you are going to make the claim I would like to at least know it is based in part on facts . 06 - 11 - 2007 # 11 Student Driver Jul 2006 1,244 I would like to see specifics on this as well . I have been in the IT industry quite a while , and I have worked ( IT ) in an automotive manufacturing facility that did its own engineering / inventing . When you trademark and patent items , you really have to defend them or you risk developing a pattern that others will take advantage of . If you let a couple of designs that are similar to yours go by unchallenged , another company might use that in defense of stealing a different design of yours . With trademarks , you have to really stay on top of them for the same reasons ( look at Apple and how sue - happy they are with " pod " in the name ) . I just would n ' t mind seeing who they wiped out of business and why . 06 - 12 - 2007 # 12 blackjack Apr 2005 130 Not sure where we ' re going with this one , but back to the Taiwan thing . Is there an implication that the quality of the product is less because it ' s manufactured there ? Last time I looked at the welds etc on my SJ FSR , I was pretty impressed . I ' ve had some very annoying failures on my specialized bike , but none relate to the frame itself , despite my upscale proportions . After riding handmade custom road frames for years - and breaking them - lots , I ' m impressed with the durability versus weight of the present rig . Play nice . ride your bike , ride , ride , ride . . . 06 - 12 - 2007 # 13 Trajan Feb 2004 1,347 blackjack Not sure where we ' re going with this one , but back to the Taiwan thing . Is there an implication that the quality of the product is less because it ' s manufactured there ? Last time I looked at the welds etc on my SJ FSR , I was pretty impressed . I ' ve had some very annoying failures on my specialized bike , but none relate to the frame itself , despite my upscale proportions . After riding handmade custom road frames for years - and breaking them - lots , I ' m impressed with the durability versus weight of the present rig . Play nice . I know , got to love MTBrs , The Taiwanese ca n ' t make bikes because they are unskilled but are more than capable of making computers , robots and complicated electronics . Not to mention , supplying the world with some very good scientist . But no , welding two pieces of aluminum together requires so much skilll . . . # 14 MtnRider160 Mar 2007 10 It ' s ok guys , notice how none of them have written back . Besides , where do you think they come up with these ideas ? ? Other mtbr threads of course . . . it ' s a vicious cycle of idiots reading other idiots posts and taking them to heart and believing everything you read on this forum is true . Do n ' t get me wrong , there are a bunch of people here that know what they ' re talking about and have a lot of years in the industry , unfortunately nothing All the companies that have a big name got that big name for doing something right . Anyone is still free to chime in . . . # 15 It ' s ok guys , notice how none of them have written back . Besides , where do you think they come up with these ideas ? ? Other mtbr threads of course . . . it ' s a vicious cycle of idiots reading other idiots posts and taking them to heart and believing everything you read on this forum is true . Do n ' t get me wrong , there are a bunch of people here that know what they ' re talking about and have a lot of years in the industry , unfortunately nothing All the companies that have a big name got that big name for doing something right . Anyone is still free to chime in . . . I just wanted to know background information about the manufacturer . In no way was I trying to or intending to bash the company in this thread . Yeah , maybe , I should ' ve just called Specialized and got a response from them . # 16 banned Oct 2005 16,457 Stratos . # 17 Not bashing It ' s ok guys , notice how none of them have written back . Besides , where do you think they come up with these ideas ? ? Other mtbr threads of course . . . it ' s a vicious cycle of idiots reading other idiots posts and taking them to heart and believing everything you read on this forum is true . Do n ' t get me wrong , there are a bunch of people here that know what they ' re talking about and have a lot of years in the industry , unfortunately nothing All the companies that have a big name got that big name for doing something right . Anyone is still free to chime in . . . I ' n not bashing Specialized bikes . I really think they are one of the best industrialized bikes in the world , and it does n ' t matter if its made in Taiwan . It ' s a fine designed bike that has its merits . I even own one and like it . The point of this discussion was to measure if all Specialized bikes are still good if they are made in Asia . And the answer is YES . But I brought to the light the fact that it did n ' t make Specialized bikes more affordable , in fact their prices rised within the years . But that ' s okay for a Premium brand to charge for their name on the frame when it ' s so high rated like Specialized is . Fact is that many times , the product does n ' t speak for the company , and Specialized is known as a major shark in the business . Just to speak of one thing , they own the patents for the Horst link system . They did not invent it , they bought it . Fact is now that anyone who wants to use the horst , has to pay Specialized . Is that wrong since you bought it with your money and if anyone else also wants you charge them ? No . But Specialized sometimes pushes way The philosophy of the company is not what we ride , but it sure would make a difference if they were more open . You see many other companies using Maverick forks in their bikes because Maverick has a friendly policy about that . Specialized should take lessons from that . The same with Santa Cruz / Intense VPP . The system is so proven good that many take cues from it . Giant Maestro , just to name one . Any distant cue from the FSR triggers their alarms . Man , if they are THAT good to serve Specialized are # 1 in the world today for a lot of reasons , but only one stands as the main for us riders : they do make good bikes . And that should only make that a better reason for them to be followed instead of feared . Well , but perhaps we ' re only a bunch of whining cry babies , gonna know . Last edited by Black RONIN ; 06 - 12 - 2007 at 10 : 19 AM # 18 mauricus Feb 2006 15 I ca n ' t believe that I am playing the role of corporate apologist , but I do n ' t think any of the examples provided thus far can be extrapolated to paint Specialized with the brush of evil corporate empire . Obviously , there is a predictable opposition to big businesses , especially when they compete with smaller companies . The reality is that Specialized , like many larger corporations , invests a tremendous amount of their resources into developing a differentiating advantage . Once that advantage has been developed , it is fair to protect it from competitors who have not contributed to that investment and are therefore not entitled to the benefit . It is altruistic to believe that all companies should pool their technology so that the entire industry has more to offer . If this is the case , what impetus would cause anyone to invest in research or new technology development ? Would n ' It is the investment in research , marketing , engineering , quality assurance , and other financial burdens that causes the prices of bikes to rise despite foreign manufacturing . Who knows how much money is invested into bike development on products that never make it to fruition ? There is much more to the final price tag than manufacturing costs and companies like Specialzed , Trek , and Cannondale have taken significant risks by investing so heavily in design and bike development . Lastly , Specialized can not protect companies from themselves . Just because a company may or may not have a connection to Specialized as a supplier or someone who licenses its technology does not testify of its business acumen . This is an industry of passion , and sadly , that may attract talented people who are not particularly skilled in running a business . The fact that a company may have certain requirements for its vendors / suppliers only underscores the care that it is taking to assure quality and reliability of its products and ability to supply them # 19 Good point I ca n ' t believe that I am playing the role of corporate apologist , but I do n ' t think any of the examples provided thus far can be extrapolated to paint Specialized with the brush of evil corporate empire . Obviously , there is a predictable opposition to big businesses , especially when they compete with smaller companies . The reality is that Specialized , like many larger corporations , invests a tremendous amount of their resources into developing a differentiating advantage . Once that advantage has been developed , it is fair to protect it from competitors who have not contributed to that investment and are therefore not entitled to the benefit . It is altruistic to believe that all companies should pool their technology so that the entire industry has more to offer . If this is the case , what impetus would cause anyone to invest in research or new technology development ? Would n ' It is the investment in research , marketing , engineering , quality assurance , and other financial burdens that causes the prices of bikes to rise despite foreign manufacturing . Who knows how much money is invested into bike development on products that never make it to fruition ? There is much more to the final price tag than manufacturing costs and companies like Specialzed , Trek , and Cannondale have taken significant risks by investing so heavily in design and bike development . Lastly , Specialized can not protect companies from themselves . Just because a company may or may not have a connection to Specialized as a supplier or someone who licenses its technology does not testify of its business acumen . This is an industry of passion , and sadly , that may attract talented people who are not particularly skilled in running a business . The fact that a company may have certain requirements for its vendors / suppliers only underscores the care that it is taking to assure quality and reliability of its products and ability to supply them I see your point and you are right . Thanks for such immersive explanation . Really . Mauricus , may I ask you one thing ? Since there ' s a huge debate about bike companies moving production to Taiwan , what are your thoughts about it ? You made a very interesting insert about the costs of research and development other to production , all invisible forces that may lead to price increase . Do you think that , in the case of Specialized and more recently Cannondale , producing the frames in Taiwan is really a financial advantage if we consider all the other variants you mentioned and yet some others , as logistics ? Thanks again . Last edited by Black RONIN ; 06 - 12 - 2007 at 03 : 49 PM 06 - 13 - 2007 # 20 rallyraid Jun 2007 240 No one even mentioned that Specialized does not manufacture their bikes anymore , if they ever did . I doubt Specialized owns a factory in Taiwan , but subcontracts the work to a major frame builder like Merida . No different when frames were built in the U.S. , but still subcontracted . I doubt my ' 97 Stumpjumper , with a " Made in USA " frame , was built in Morgan Hills . So what ' s the big deal ? The first Stumpjumper was Japanese made anyways . Specialized is a big corporate business , and their goal is to make the most money regardless where their products are made . Specialized does not manufacture ; they do marketing and R&D . Whatever design they come up with gets sent to a manufacturing site overseas where the product is then cranked out . My brother ' s FSR is made in Taiwan , and it is well made regardless of country of origin . As for the boutique pricing , you can go buy a better spec ' ed bike at www . bikesdirect . com . Just do n ' t complain about questionable frame / suspension geometry . I think Specialized still provide good value compared to Ellsworth or Turner , and have more R&D experience compared to KHS or Jamis . Their marketing on the other hand , is just annoying . What ' s the deal with their " super duper secret metal matrix alloy " ? Yes , it has different alloying elements , but that does not make it special or worth the extra price IMO . Oh yeah , they have a website dedicated to water bottles only www . specializedwaterbottles . com 06 - 13 - 2007 # 21 Shocknerd " Excellent ! " Aug 2004 83 In my opinion Stratos was taken out because they could n ' t afford to defend a patent lawsuit and had to be bankrupted . Stratos was producing / licensed an inertia valve shock system that was invented long before Specialized hired their inventor for their inertia valve system . Specialized values a monopoly in this field and hence Stratos " had to go " . This has nothing to do with protecting a return on R + D $ ' s . This is about exploiting a patent " judicial system " that favors the cubic dollars . 07 - 20 - 2007 # 22 Munich888 Jul 2007 5 Just to share Among the Specialized bikes I owned or seen around , they are either made in Taiwan or China . So I was wondering if all Specialized bikes made in Taiwan / China ? To my knowledge , Specialized has sold about 49 % of company to a Taiwanese bike manufacturing company Merida few years ago , thus it did not surprised me if all Specialized frame are made in either China or Taiwan as Merida has manufacturing facilities in both countries . As for why some frame indicates Made in China while other indicates Made in Taiwan , it is simply a matter of business profit margin . For entry level models that are usually sold in mass qty . at lower price , the profit margin is usually low , thus to ensure a lowest possible manufacturing cost while maintaining a profit margin , it is only obvious for the manufacturer to produce the frame in a country demanding the lowest possible manufacturing cost , thus explains frames made in China . However , for higher end models that usually sold However , it really does not matter where the frame is made as long as the Quality Control of the product is duly observed and performed ; thus offering a quality frame at a price that can meet every segment of the market demands . From my observation , Specialized is simply following the route of Nike , keeping what they are best at , and that is the branding and marketing of the product , while selling and outsourcing what they are less competitive , which is the manufacturing . Whether is Specialized or Cannondale . . . . .just ride hard 07 - 20 - 2007 # 23 Like catnip for people Oct 2006 400 notice how none of them have written back . If other people want to know why Specialized are such a corrupt company then they can do the research for themselves . . . It ' s not my job to educate them . # 24 Student Driver Jul 2006 1,244 If one comments in this manner , then it ' s normal to be asked to back it up . You ca n ' t be that surprised by the response . Otherwise , commenting in an attempt to " educate " them without backing it up will usually be ignored . I imagine that most posters would agree and feel the same way . When seeing something posted that is so inflammatory , more people are beginning to question it . This should have been happening a long time ago , but better late than never . # 25 mavsfan Jul 2007 41 I bought a Specialized Hotrock A1 FS for my son yesterday and was bit disappointed that the frame and forks were made in China . At least it said Handmade in China . Well maybe I am asking too much , every thing else that I own is made in China these days . # 26 Stumpy_Steve Aug 2006 2,352 If other people want to know why Specialized are such a corrupt company then they can do the research for themselves . . . It ' s not my job to educate them . sounds like a cop out to me , but thats my opinion . . . 07 - 21 - 2007 # 27 unit74 Semper Fi 204 When I found out the Stumpy I was looking at was made overseas , I went and bought a Trek . My American dollars spent on American labor . . . . . .Simple as that . The Spec stuff may be nice bikes , but I ' d rather keep my buxs in the US . 07 - 21 - 2007 # 28 howitzer11 6 The bottom line is we all have the freedom of choice to buy what we want . I run an 06 stumpjumper pro FSR and for me with all the bikes I have owned this is the best . Yes I always bought american had a couple if ' s and then I bought an intense and paid twice what specialized would charge me for the same design . The difference Intense customer service was aweful . Specialized if you have a problem will replace anything anytime . I guess you could say this is because their margin is so 07 - 22 - 2007 # 29 Bhaltair 59 All I can say is a majority of you need to take some classes in Economics before posting about prices . . . for real . 07 - 22 - 2007 # 30 Bhaltair 59 Almost everything you all buy is made in another country . The only reason some CHEAP MANUFACTURED part would be made in the USA is because it needs some major technology to produce or it needs the infrastructure that no other country has . Take a look at your clothes . Take a look at your car . Ford ? Made in Mexico . Toyota ? Parts made elsewhere , but assembled in USA simply because shipping costs are too high to move assembled cars to the USA markets . I ' m so sick of these stupid arguments about offshoring . . . Anti Corporation ? I could easily burst your little bubble . . . PM me small business lovers . 07 - 23 - 2007 # 31 kingbozo Jan 2004 712 unit74 When I found out the Stumpy I was looking at was made overseas , I went and bought a Trek . My American dollars spent on American labor . . . . . .Simple as that . The Spec stuff may be nice bikes , but I ' d rather keep my buxs in the US . Better get rid of the drivetrain then , and the fork . 06 - 01 - 2008 # 32 SpokaneTim Jan 2004 28 Its important to remember I lived in Taiwan for about eights years and still make it back for a visit at least once a year . A few things you should know . Its important to remember that prices get jacked up on this side of the ocean , not in Taiwan . I picked up my 04 Specialized Stumpjumper Pro for around $ 975 . That is far better than the asking price of $ 2500 in the U.S. My wife ' s custom hardtail would have easily topped $ 2000 if built in the U.S. Cost us less than $ 700 in Taiwan . My GT ZRX cyclocross bike which is not even available in the U.S. was only $ 300 in Taiwan yet would ' ve cost well over $ Shipping bikes to the U.S. by the boatload only costs a few dollars . Import tax is little if any . It is the folks here in the U.S. that are ripping you off . There is no Specialized factory in Taiwan . Majority of bikes were built at the Merida plant while the Enduros were built by Giant ( better technology ) . I do n ' t know of any high end Specialized bikes being built in China at the moment . I can check though . Last edited by SpokaneTim ; 06 - 01 - 2008 at 10 : 02 AM Members who have read this thread : 4 Posting Permissions You may not post new threads You may not post replies post attachments edit your posts BB code is On Smilies are On [ IMG ] code is [ VIDEO ] code is HTML code is Off Trackbacks are Off Pingbacks Refbacks Forum Rules Contact Us mtbr . com Archive Web Hosting Top | [
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http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=217575&page=1 | Welcome to the Forum Archive ! Years of conversation fill a ton of digital pages , and we ' ve kept all of it accessible to browse or copy over . Whether you ' re looking for reveal articles for older champions , or the first time that Rammus rolled into an " OK " thread , or anything in between , you can find it here . When you ' re finished , check out the boards to join in the latest League of Legends discussions . GO TO BOARDS Is there a time limit for baron buff ? 1 2 Vaylemn Senior Member 08 - 22 - 2010 How long does baron buff last ? + 0 AngieBug Recruiter 08 - 22 - 2010 think its around 5 mins or so cant really recall atm + 0 TheRealYouDied Member 5 min , or until you die . it doesnt respawn but once every 10 minutes I think Phreak Senior Recruiter Baron respawn is 8 minutes . The buff lasts approximately 5 minutes and is unaffected by the Utility mastery . + 10 Ursalgodon Senior Member Red ninja ' d . Puppetear keep in mind that there ' s the utility mastery which can increase it by 15 % or 30 % at rank 2 \ EDIT : Ignore that , I got owned by phreak before I even posted + 8 AngieBug Recruiter Quote : Phreak Baron respawn is 8 minutes . The buff lasts approximately 5 minutes and is unaffected by the Utility mastery . oh nice i gucessed correct somewhat Lyov Member i ' ve always wanted to know , are udyr ' s stances effected by the masteries ? like will his W last longer or his R etc . . - 4 Fairly Good Quote : Lyov i ' ve always wanted to know , are udyr ' s stances effected by the masteries ? like will his W last longer or his R etc . . Increase the duration of neutral monster buffs by 15 / 30 % + 2 Saybel 08 - 23 - 2010 the baron buff pwns . . . killing ppl while the try to get the buff pwns more though . 1 2 | [
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http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2493417 | Welcome to the Forum Archive ! Years of conversation fill a ton of digital pages , and we ' ve kept all of it accessible to browse or copy over . Whether you ' re looking for reveal articles for older champions , or the first time that Rammus rolled into an " OK " thread , or anything in between , you can find it here . When you ' re finished , check out the boards to join in the latest League of Legends discussions . GO TO BOARDS Welp 1 Ashali Senior Member 08 - 19 - 2012 Do people realize what this word actually means ? No its not another form of " well " in the English language the word welp is a word used to demean somebody , in short , it is an insult . It is normally spelt " Whelp " and the word " Welp " came from the movie Dumb and Dumber . Definition of " Whelp " 1 . the young of the dog , or of the wolf , bear , lion , tiger , seal , etc . 2 . a youth , especially an impudent or despised one . 3 . Machinery . a . any of a series of longitudinal projections or ridges on the barrel of a capstan , windlass , etc . b . any of the teeth of a sprocket wheel . - 1 Glorkle Member 08 - 19 - 2012 It ' s a slang term . It ' s evolved from the word well . + 0 RockLobster88 Senior Member By that logic , Blitz is a whelp . + 0 Ashali Quote : Glorkle It ' s a slang term . It ' s evolved from the word well . It " evolved " from the word well in the movie dumb and dumber . Im not sure if thats an evolution or a devolution SmugUniverse Trying too hard . It ' s just a sound , like duh or AAAAAAAAHHHHH , not an actual word http : / / en . wikipedia . org / wiki / Onomatopoeia 1 | [
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http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=399890 | Welcome to the Forum Archive Years of conversation fill a ton of digital pages and weve kept all of it accessible to browse or copy over Whether youre looking for reveal articles for older champions or the first time that Rammus rolled into an OK thread or anything in between you can find it here When youre finished check out the boards to join in the latest League of Legends discussions Name is unavailable 1 Wolfmeat Senior Member 12162010 This is just a question as to why Eskanasi or any variant there of is unavailable When I tried to create a summoner called Eskanasi Ashkenasi or Skenasi it said name unavailable but when I tried to create a summoner called Bluefield it said that this name is taken by another summoner please choose another or words to that effect obviously making a distinction between bluefield and eskanasi in their unavailability As such I have created this account to post and ask why Eskanasi or any variant there of is unavailable even when no one else has taken the name 1 Mr Zafrada Senior Member 12162010 May be controversial and in order to keep summoners name out of controversy Riot even change some offensive summoners name Im not saying Eskanasi is offensive so I think theres some list of words strings not allowed for summoners name Im just speculating This is nothing against Jews I think religion along with politics should stay in the private world Hope it helps See you in game 0 xpsychedelico Senior Member 12162010 Riot has stated before that their filter system was adopted from a company that specializes in word filteringit is not a selection of words that they specifically choose So it is likely the word filter system they use that prevents you from creating the names you choose 0 bluekn1ght Senior Member 12172010 Same thing happened to me I usually go with blueknight or blueknigh7 but apparently the nig string is blocked Hence why I went with a number I wish the recognition system was a little smarter so that it could recognize actual words Heck Tarics a Knight and hes not banned but I understand the purpose behind the system Given what youve already tested Id guess the nasi string is blocked for the closely related term Its a little hassle but good luck finding a name 0 1 | [
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http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4346495 | Welcome to the Forum Archive ! Years of conversation fill a ton of digital pages , and we ' ve kept all of it accessible to browse or copy over . Whether you ' re looking for reveal articles for older champions , or the first time that Rammus rolled into an " OK " thread , or anything in between , you can find it here . When you ' re finished , check out the boards to join in the latest League of Legends discussions . GO TO BOARDS How many hours have YOU wasted on LoL ? 1 2 The Joeggernaut Senior Member 03 - 08 - 2014 Always wanted to know ? Have a look ! http : / / wastedonlol . com / + 2 Secretbeef Senior Member 03 - 08 - 2014 Secretbeef , you ' ve spent about 2458 hours on League of Legends which means 102 days of your life . You are 9064th on NA servers and 37218th in the world . Joined 2010 - 06 - 24 + 0 Dan and Mel 4eva danandmel4eva , you ' ve spent about 259 hours on League of Legends which means 11 days of your life . You are 122897th on NA servers and 549633th in the world . + 0 Quintessence quintessence , you ' ve spent about 3552 hours on League of Legends which means 148 days of your life . You are 1076th on NA servers and 4054th in the world . That is disgusting . . . + 1 Jerkface Killa 2 too many . Id have to put like 10 accs into that site and than do maths . Na , lets just say ive spent more time on this game than i have with any other ( well other than spyro when i was like 12 , but * * * * that dragon ) . Cant imagine how many hours this forums stolen from me . RAWR IM RENGAR matt , you have spent your life on this * * * * ing game , do something . - machine hour generator thing Khristophoros The Council khristophoros , you ' ve spent about 2371 hours on League of Legends which means 99 days of your life . You are 10564th on na servers and 43586th in the world . Shameful considering I ' ve played this game since April 2009 . Openly ViSexual Member raginglady * * * * * , you ' ve spent about 2285 hours on League of Legends which means 95 days of your life . You are 12304th on NA servers and 50734th in the world . In under a year ? Pfft . Not so bad . Ponchisaurus Member ponchisaurus , you ' ve spent about 1683 hours on League of Legends which means 70 days of your life . You are 31758th on NA servers and 134065th in the world . Huh . . .I expected worse honestly , It ' s still a lot tho . . . Lee OnLee sertohk , you ' ve spent about 407 hours on League of Legends which means 17 days of your life . You are 112993th on NA servers and 502879th in the world . I ' ve been playing for 5 months X_X . 1 2 | [
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http://forums.nicoclub.com/towing-w-fwd-t472941.html | Towing w / FWD 8 posts • Page 1 of 1 tempest . runner Posts : 37 Joined : Sat Dec 12 , 2009 6 : 55 pm Car : 2010 Nissan Rogue SL FWD Location : Ottawa , ON Towing w / FWD Post by tempest . runner Sun Jan 17 , 2010 12 : 50 pm I have a SeaDoo . It ' s weight filled w / gas and stuff is approx 850lbs and the trailer is approx 350lbs . I ' ve read the towing capacity is either 1000lbs or 1500lbs . . . why is there a difference in numbers ? Also , what is the difference with a Canadian Nissan Rogue w / Premium package vs one that does n ' t in regards to towing besides the towing pre - wiring ? I ca n ' t find much from Nissan ' s website . I ' ve read somewhere that most FWD ' s do not have the proper tran cooler needed to tow excessive weights for long hauls . Any truth to that ? Does the Premium FWD SL have the same tran cooler as every other rogue ? I ' m also curious to what weights others have towed over 1000lbs and for what distance . Top philipa_240sx Posts : 4138 Joined : Thu Jun 21 , 2007 2 : 30 pm Location : Canada Re : Towing w / FWD ( tempest . runner ) Post by philipa_240sx Sun Jan 17 , 2010 2 : 47 pm tempest . runner wrote : I ' ve read the towing capacity is either 1000lbs or 1500lbs . . . why is there a difference in numbers ? There is truth to the aux trans cooler and it ' s effect on towing rating . The auxiliary trans oil cooler ( visible on the lower RH corner of the rad ) comes with all Rogues that have the manual / paddle shift option . This additional cooling gives allows the higher 1500lb rating . Depending on year , only certain models / trim packages came with this option : In Canada , - You need the SL Premium Pack available on both FWD or AWD models . All model years apply . In the US , it depends on model year , - 2008 : SL Premium Pack models , both FWD and AWD - 2009 : AWD SL Premium Pack only - 2010 : Not available . This means no 2010 Rogue in the US has the higher 1500lb tow rating . AFAIK , there is no add - on transmission cooler option available . Either from the factory or aftermarket . Nissan does not sell individual parts for the CVT including the all important heat exchanger with the aux oil cooler lines . In the event the CVT does overheat , it will go into ' limp ' mode and reduce the vehicle speed to protect the transmission . The Rogue actually tows very well . I have towed up to 1200lbs with my FWD model that has the 1000lb rating . But I only do this for short distances . The CVT responds well to the additional loads , but the tendency for it to shift into high gear to save fuel really limits engine braking . I simply use the Overdrive Lock button on the shifter to overcome this . Top 37 Sat Dec 12 , 2009 6 : 55 pm Car : 2010 Nissan Rogue SL FWD Ottawa , ON Re : Towing w / FWD ( philipa_240sx ) Sun Jan 17 , 2010 3 : 54 pm philipa_240sx wrote : There is truth to the aux trans cooler and it ' s effect on towing rating . The auxiliary trans oil cooler ( visible on the lower RH corner of the rad ) comes with all Rogues that have the manual / paddle shift option . This additional cooling gives allows the higher 1500lb rating . Depending on year , only certain models / trim packages came with this option : In Canada , - You need the SL Premium Pack available on both FWD or AWD models . All model years apply . In the US , it depends on model year , - 2008 : SL Premium Pack models , both FWD and AWD - 2009 : AWD SL Premium Pack only - 2010 : Not available . This means no 2010 Rogue in the US has the higher 1500lb tow rating . AFAIK , there is no add - on transmission cooler option available . Either from the factory or aftermarket . Nissan does not sell individual parts for the CVT including the all important heat exchanger with the aux oil cooler lines . In the event the CVT does overheat , it will go into ' limp ' mode and reduce the vehicle speed to protect the transmission . The Rogue actually tows very well . I have towed up to 1200lbs with my FWD model that has the 1000lb rating . But I only do this for short distances . The CVT responds well to the additional loads , but the tendency for it to shift into high gear to save fuel really limits engine braking . I simply use the Overdrive Lock button on the shifter to overcome this . Philip , thanks again for the responses . . . It is very much appreciated ! I have the 2010 SL FWD w / Premium package . So I ' m technically allowed to tow upto 1500lbs . Would I need trailer brakes then ? If I may ask , what were you towing that weighed 1200lbs ? I have no overdrive with my Rogue . Since I have the paddle shifters , my understanding I want to tow in a low gear ? What rpm ' s am I ideally wanting to tow for the long haul ? 4138 Thu Jun 21 , 2007 2 : 30 pm Canada Re : Towing w / FWD ( tempest . runner ) Sun Jan 17 , 2010 5 : 46 pm tempest . runner wrote : I have the 2010 SL FWD w / Premium package . So I ' m technically allowed to tow upto 1500lbs . That is correct . The Canadian spec 2010 Rogue SL FWD with Premium Package comes with the aux trans cooler and is rated for 1500lbs towing capacity . Would I need trailer brakes then ? Nissan recommends trailer brakes when towing more than 1000lbs . Refer to pg 9 - 20 in your owners manual . It ' s listed as ' Note 1 ' underneath the chart . If I may ask , what were you towing that weighed 1200lbs ? A 5x10 ' landscape trailer loaded with garbage . Approx 800lb dry weight plus 400lb load . I have no overdrive with my Rogue . Since I have the paddle shifters , my understanding I want to tow in a low gear ? What rpm ' s am I ideally wanting to tow for the long haul ? Depends , the CVT is very good at adjusting ratios based on load so I leave it in ' auto ' when cruising around . As soon as I climb a hill , descend a hill , or drive in city traffic I tend to use the OD lock . I would suggest using the ' momentary gear hold ' feature of the CVT where you shift up / down manually when needed . The CVT will revert to auto after a short period . kerrton 2201 Mon Feb 04 , 2008 3 : 48 pm 2008 Nissan Rogue , SL FWD , Gotham Gray Southern Alberta , Canada kerrton Sun Jan 17 , 2010 5 : 46 pm Hi there , Please refer to an existing thread , which has lots of good info but has n ' t been updated in a while . . . . zer . . .untry Re : Towing w / FWD ( kerrton ) Sun Jan 17 , 2010 6 : 33 pm kerrton wrote : Hi there , Please refer to an existing thread , which has lots of good info but has n ' t been updated in a while . . . . zer . . .untry That was a great read ! This should be part of the FAQ IMO . Sun Jan 17 , 2010 6 : 44 pm Another question regarding laws in Ontario . A friend of mine told me that FWD vehicles are not legally allowed to tow anything over 1000lbs . Is there any truth in this ? I ca n ' t find anything to back this up . My understanding is as long as you do n ' t go over the GVWR , yer fine . Mon Jan 18 , 2010 8 : 56 am My understanding is as long as you do n ' t go over the GVWR , yer fine . In simple terms , yes . So long as you do n ' t exceed the vehicle ' s weight rating , you are OK . You can find more information regarding tow ratings and the all important GCWR ( combined weight of trailer and vehicle ) in your owners manual starting on pg 9 - 16 . BTW , there are FWD vehicles that will tow far more than 1000lbs . For example , a FWD Ford Escape V - 6 has a 3500lb tow rating ! 8 posts • Page of Return to “ Rogue Forum ” Jump to | [
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Last Results 21 to 40 of 98 Thread : Recipes for Halibut Thread Tools 07 - 20 - 2006 # 21 NORTH2AK Member Join Date May 2006 Location ANCHORAGE Posts 515 Simple and easy Cut Halibut into small chunks , crush up some Lays potato chips , roll the chuncks in melted butter then the crushed chips . Bake in the oven for 15 minutes ( or until the meat flakes apart ) at 425 deg . Very fast and Very good ! 20 Minutes and your eating ! 07 - 22 - 2006 # 22 Frank from NM Member Join Date Apr 2006 Posts 2 Halibut Recipes from the Desert ? ? OK , you ' re saying to yourself . . . " What in the H # * * does a guy from New Mexico know about halibut recipes ? " The answer is this : The guy from New Mexico works with a woman from Alaska , and she passed this on to me . It ' s easy , and WOW , is it absolutely mouth - watering ! ! OK , this is it - 1 . Take your halibut and cut it into pieces ( so it looks like giant scallops ) . 2 . Then , in a plastic bag , mix flour , salt , pepper and whatever spices YOU like ( I used Cayenne pepper and lemon pepper and a little bit of garlic salt , but you can vary this any way you want to ) . 3 . Beat a couple or three eggs in a bowl ( use a whip if you have one , if not then just pretend you ' re making scrambled eggs ) . Add a little bit of ice water to that mix ( not much , maybe a tablespoon or two ) . 4 . Take some Panko Japanese bread crumbs and have them ready for the fish . Put ' em in a plate , so you can roll the fish after you ' ve done steps 5 , 6 , 7 ( nah , it ' s not confusing , just pay attention . ; ) 5 . Put your halibut pieces into the flour mixture and shake it up . 6 . Dip them in your egg mixture . 7 . Roll them in the Panko crumbs and set aside so they ' re ready to go in the oil at the same time . 8 . Oh , yeah - you should already have your oil hot in the pan , but you can still do it now . Your choice of vegetable or olive oil , depending on your preference and your financial situation . 9 . Drop the fish in the oil until they are nice and brown on the bottom , then flip so they look the same on both sides ( if deep frying , this is n ' t an issue ) . Done . In my opinion , MUCH better than beer batter ( I know , opinions . . . ) . Does n ' t soak up as much oil ; crispy and tasty . Mmmmmmmm . . . . . I can hardly wait to get up there ( August , first trip ! ) and catch my own ! enjoy . Frank 07 - 23 - 2006 # 23 aktweeter Jun 2006 5 Canning Halibut question Has anyone here had sucess with canning halibut ? I ' ve done lots of salmon and thought it might be a good way to avoid freezer burn and have ready made halibut for recipes ? Just wondering what spices you ' ve used when canning ? 07 - 24 - 2006 # 24 AZinAK May 2006 Location South Central 529 If you like ranch . . . Cut Halibut into bite size pieces Put Ritz crackers in a ziploc and crush into a coarse powder Roll Halibut in Hidden Valley Ranch Then coat the peices in Ritz cracker Bake at 350 until golden brown Dip in ranch . . . Easy and rediculously good ! 07 - 26 - 2006 # 25 Mr . Pid Apr 2006 Anchorage 3,294 Egg wash your pieces and roll them in Potato Buds . Cook in a fry pan or on a griddle with just enough oil to get the job done . Season the Potato Buds if you like . I use black pepper . Potato Buds ROCK ! The same technique works great of Elk and Moose steaks . Yum ! 07 - 27 - 2006 # 26 IdahoKings 26 My Favorites - Paul H ' s Grilled , Battered , & Hot - Wing Style Paul H listed my favorite " Grilled . " Lots of batters are good , including the homemade recommendations w / just flower . But an easy one that always turns out like restaurant style for me is Old English . I use it on halibut and crappie . If you like hot - wings , put skinless halibut in a glass dish and bake @ 350 degrees with lots of butter and Frank ' s Hot Sauce . Much better & less messy than chicken wings ! 07 - 28 - 2006 # 27 preed Wasilla , Alaska 490 halibut enchilada ' s This is heaven , . . . . 2 lbs . halibut 1 cup sour cream 1 cup mayonaise 1 4 ounce can diced green chilies 2 cups shredded cheddar cheese 1 / 2 cup chopped onion 2 large cans of green enchilada sauce 10 flour tortillas sliced olives ( optional ) Bake halibut at 350 for 20 - 25 minutes untill cooked through . Flake cooked halibut in bowl . Mix mayo , sour cream , green chilies , onion , 1 cup cheese , mix well . Pour small amount of enchilada sauce on bottom of 13x9 baking dish . fill each tortilla with desired amount of filling , roll and continue layering tortillas in dish . cover with remaining sauce and cheese . Cover and bake at 350 for 30 minutes . garnish with olives and green onions ( optional ) . www . alaskahydrographics . com 07 - 31 - 2006 # 28 danattherock NC 5,608 Beer Battered Halibut Took The Recommendation On The Beer Battered Halibut With The Krusteaz Beer Batter . Raised In North Carolina Eating Fried Catfish And Such , This Was A Big Hit To Say The Least . Wonderful Meal And Simple . Some Of The Best Fried Fish I Have Ever Had . And Being From The South , I Have Had Alot Of Fried Fish . Thanks For All The Suggestions . I Will Try Some Of These Different Recipes With The 38 Remaining Lbs Of Halibut I Have Left . Wont Be Going Hungry This Fall . 08 - 08 - 2006 # 29 AKBighorn Jul 2006 Wasilla 1,244 I have fished in the outer parts of Resurrection bay several times now . We have experienced this " soggy halibut " as well . We thought that because some of the fish were small that they might have been a type of sole or something that might explain it rather than a halibut . We have yet to figure out what the story is for sure . No matter how you cook it , it does not matter . It will not firm up as it was not firm to begin with as a normal halibut is . 08 - 09 - 2006 # 30 Black Rock Charters Aug 2006 Gustavus Alaska 9 Best Fish Recipe Ever Gustavus , Alaska and Black Rock Charters has come up with the very best recipe for cooking fresh Alaskan Halibut . First you need to find fresh Alaskan halibut and one of the best locations to catch Alaskan Halibut is Gustavus , Alaska on one Black Rock Charters charter fishing boats . The recipe : 1 Pound of Fresh Alaskan Halibut 1 Cup of Pride of the West Seasoning Flour 1 tablespoon of Taco Seasoning 4 Cups of Cooking Oil Heat the oil in a shallow cooking pan to 350 degrees . Mix the Pride of the west seasoning with the Taco Seasoning , cut the Fresh Alaskan Halibut into small pieces , and roll the Alaskan Halibut in the flour mix . When the oil is to temperature place the Fresh Halibut into the oil . Cook for 3 minutes on each side until golden brown . PERFECTION ! For more recipes or step by step process to catching Fresh Alaskan Halibut please visit www . blackrockcharters . com 08 - 09 - 2006 # 31 Gambler 179 Here ' s another While some of my favorites have been mentioned already ( poor man ' s lobster ; beer battered ) here ' s one you are sure to enjoy : - Take 4 - 5 fillets of halibut ( try to match up the same thickness ) - place them unfrozen in a baking dish - liberally spread mayonaise on top of each fillet - sprinkle throughly with lemon pepper - place in oven on " broil " - after 10 - 13 minutes , mayo should be blackened . - Once blackened , remove and Enjoy ! - - Gambler # 32 Doug in Alaska Wasilla , AK 500 Originally Posted by RayfromAK INGREDIENTS 1 " or so thick Halibut fillets 1 Lb grated parmesan cheese 3 tablespoon mayonnaise 1 tablespoon mustard A few drops of soy sauce A little black pepper Some lemon or lime juice ( to sprinkle over the halibut fillets ) Butter ( to place under the fillets so they wo n ' t stick to the pan ) Mix the ingredients to the consistency of a spread , and turn the oven to broil . Put some butter in a baking pan , and the fillets on top . Sprinkle a few lemon juice drops over the fillets . Place in the oven for approximately 5 minutes , drain the water from the pan , turn the fillets over , and broil 5 more minutes . Drain more water if any , and then spread the parmesan mix over the fillets no more that 1 / 4 " thick . Place in the oven again , and when Keep in mind that you can experiment with the mix of mayo / mustard , and cheese to the right consistency and flavor . But somewhere around 3 / 1 ( mayo / mustard ) should be close . Do n ' t use salt and only a few drops of soy sauce , because the cheese already has lots of salt . Also , you do n ' t want to over - broil the fillets . Just look at it between " broils " and see if it ' s just about done before you broils again with Serve with mashed potatoes and a gravy of your liking , and some fruit chunks ( cantaloupe , kiwi , cut grapes , banana , etc . , and sprinkle a few drops of lemon juice over the fruit ) . RayfromAk , My wife is putting this recipe together at this very moment . It sounds delicious ! ! I ' ll give a report tomorrow . Doug in Alaska 08 - 14 - 2006 # 33 Marcus New member Feb 2004 Soldotna 5,639 Agreeing with Frank . . . This is a version of Frank from NM ' s recipe above and just might be the best all - ' round fish recipe in the world . I got it from our local sports writer ' s weekly newspaper column a few years back . Here it is , just as it was written : 1 lb . boneless , skinless fish , cut into bite - sized chunks 1 cup peanut oil 1 cup panko 1 / 2 cup rice flour Your choice of spices ( Try 1 / 2 t . each of lemon pepper , salt , dill , and Cajun spices . ) 1 large egg 1 T . milk Preheat oil ( about 1 / 2 - inch deep ) in wok to 350 - 375 degrees . Mix rice flour and spices in a plastic bag , then add fish and shake until all pieces are coated . Beat egg and milk in small bowl . Dip fish in egg mixture , one piece at a time . Let drain , then roll and press into bread crumbs until well coated . Lay pieces aside until you have enough for a batch . Cook about 1 minute or until golden . Do n ' t crowd pieces , 08 - 14 - 2006 # 34 Doug in Alaska Wasilla , AK 500 RayfromAk , Awesome ! ! ! 08 - 19 - 2006 # 35 4whlr 265 Soggy Halibut Could these soggy halibut actually be arrow tooth flounder ? I ' ve heard the same thing about them . . . 08 - 20 - 2006 # 36 Alaska Gray Anchorage , Alaska , United States 4,952 Get some of the sweet and hot sauce . Pour in over the fillet and add veggies . Cover it and bake it 350 degress for about 20 - 30 minutes . Wow makes my mouth water . Living the Alaskan Dream Gary Keller Anchorage , AK 08 - 20 - 2006 # 37 nickster 499 curried halibut Yet one more way we use the real " chicken of the sea " 1 to 1.5 lbs . halibut in large bite - sized chunks 1 large onion , chopped 1 16 oz package stir - fry or other mixed vegies 2 or 3 Tbls . chopped fresh ginger 3 or 4 buttons garlic , chopped 2 or 3 large Tbls . yellow curry powder ( or use paste ) 1 can coconut milk salt to taste a couple Tbls . oil a little corn starch dissolved in cold water Saute onions , garlic , and ginger in oil on med - high a few minutes . Add curry powder and stir for a minute or two . Add fish and turn / stir a couple of times , only cooking two or three minutes total . Add coconut milk and salt , bring to quick boil , then simmer for another two or three minutes ( add corn starch if you like it thicker than it is at this point ) . Serve over hot rice . 09 - 08 - 2006 # 38 resource11 11 ever try ceviche ? We just got back from southeast AK . A buddy of mine treated us to an incredible dish at our remote cabin that I had never heard of . Ceviche is a South American dish made popular by some high end Mexican resturaunts . He made it with Halibut we caught that day . Basically it is a cold salsa - fresca dish with raw fish . Chop onions , peppers , tomatoes , cilantro , etc . and cubes of halibut ( you can use any fish or scallops ) . The trick is to coat the fish , 10 - 01 - 2006 # 39 Michael Strahan webmaster Apr 1999 Anchorage , Alaska 5,633 Here ' s a great halibut recipe - Another one from my friend Roger Snively . I tried this and it was excellent . Baked Halibut Florentine pre - heat oven to 350 1 medium sweet onion - diced 4 - 5 clove garlic - chopped 1 bag frozen spinach white wine - for the cook . . . halibut portions 1c mayo ( best foods ) - other mayos are junk 1c sour cream 1T Dijon mustard 1c parmesan cheese fresh herbs such as thyme or dill if desired Step 1 Saute onions and garlic until tender remove 1 / 2 of mixture and set aside . Add spinach and continue sauteing until ingredients marry . De - pan into a 9X13 baking dish and spread evenly over bottom of pan - let cool Step 2 Season halibut with salt and white pepper and arrange over spinach mixture Step 3 Place reserved onions and garlic back into sauce pan + 1c white wine and reduce by 1 / 2 ( here is where you ' d add the fresh herb if you want ) . Turn to low heat and add mustard / mayo / sour cream and cheese stirring until sauce married and warmed . Do not cook or simmer . Spoon evenly over fish and put in oven for about 30 - 40 mins until bubbly and slightly browned top . Garnish with remaining fresh herbs . Let stand for 10 mins and serve LOST CREEK COMPANY : Specializing in Alaska hunt consultation and planning for do - it - yourself hunts , fully outfitted hunts , and guided hunts . CLICK HERE to send me a private message . Web Address : http : / / alaskaoutdoorssupersite . com / hunt - planner / Mob : 1 ( 907 ) 229 - 4501 " Dream big , and dare to fail . " - Norman Vaughan " I have climbed my mountain , but I must still live my life . " - Tenzig Norgay 10 - 03 - 2006 # 40 profishguide 319 Jello or Chalky Halibut ? You probably cooked chalky Halibut , a Arrow toothed founder faintly looks like a Halibut , except for pointy head , and lots of teeth . 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Thread Tools 04 - 12 - 2010 # 1 bilder Member Join Date Jun 2008 Location Anchorage , AK Posts 505 Are Coleman red canoes any good ? Got a lead on a red coleman canoe , 16 or 17 footer . Would need to weld the center support , but for the price it may very well be worth it if it is a good starter canoe . That is if the repair is not difficult or impossible . Looking for a canoe for lakes and the canoe trails . Just wondering if these Colemans are a decent boat or not . Just a bitter Alaskan clinging to his guns and religion . . . . . 04 - 12 - 2010 # 2 hiline Member Join Date Apr 2007 Posts 537 I have one that must be 20 years old they are OK . Mine is pretty stable but very sluggish . They are also hard to patch . If you are thinking just a starter they would fine . Mine has been a starter since about 1989 or 1990 . Chuck # 3 Alaskacanoe Moderator Apr 2006 Location Sterling 1,452 Colemans the colemans are tough canoes , they are not fast , and they are a little heavy , ( the one you are looking at probably 85 lbs ) . and they are great play boats . in 2000 I bought about 8 colemans from walmart in anchorage for $ 299 bucks , that included the car top carrier and paddles . the price is over $ 400 bucks now for a Pelican ( the replacement for a coleman ) , and they do not come with any car top carrier or paddles . . If you are not paying more than $ 150 to a few hundred bucks and it does not leak , its a good enough deal for a starter canoe . . I have lots of parts for Colemans in my piles of used up canoe parts . If you need a bar or upright I have something in the bin that will work if you do n ' t want to pay to have it welded . . For Free if you get down my way in Sterling . . Max When you come to a fork in the trail , take it ! Rentals for Canoes , Kayaks , Rafts , boats serving the Kenai canoe trail system and the Kenai river for over 15 years . www . alaskacanoetrips . com # 4 bilder Jun 2008 Anchorage , AK 505 So $ 100 is a good deal then ? Got more detail on the repair and it should be really easy to fix . My father in law is a pretty good welder and I am sure I can talk him into donating 10 minutes of his time . The boat has been sitting idle for several years and will need to have the cottonwood sap cleaned off it . Hard to tell if the bottom is red or black . Just a bitter Alaskan clinging to his guns and religion . . . . . # 5 scott_rn Nov 2008 power commuting twixt the valley and anchorage 835 They ' re fine I bought one ( red coleman ramx15 I think ) that ' s a little bent from falling off a pop - trailer while the guy was driving down the highway . It still paddles straight . I think I paid $ 150 and have been really happy with it . Sure , you get what you pay for - but I do n ' t feel I need a top of the line canoe . 04 - 14 - 2010 # 6 Mark Collett Sep 2007 Between the Willapa Rivers , United States 467 Thats Awesome Max What a great offer Max . It ' s not too often you hear someone being that helpful . Kudos dude 04 - 16 - 2010 # 7 Well I am the proud owner of a vintage coleman canoe . Placed an ad on cragslist asking for a cheap canoe and got several offers . Looked at a couple and ended up with a red / orange 17 foot coleman . It is old and ugly but for 80 bucks I will not complain one bit . So if anyone is wanting to get a cheap canoe , put an ad on CL and see what happens . Now all I gotta do is buy some paddles and PFD ' s while waiting for the ice to go out . 04 - 16 - 2010 # 8 Alaskacanoe Moderator Apr 2006 Sterling 1,452 put them to use many people have bought canoes over the years and used them for a time and then either moved on to some other recreation or a million other reasons . . . these offer great opportunities for folks that desire to get into the sport . . . Canoes made with durable materials such as aluminum , fiberglass and poly or Roylex materials will last for decades and can provide a lifetime of use . . some canoes we have purchased over the years have had several owners previous to us , we use them and beat them up some more and pass them on to someone else that can enjoy them . . your idea to advertise on Craigs list is a great idea , and is n ' t nice to have such a vehicle to reach so many people that may not have even remembered they had the old canoe out in the shed . . . . . When you come to a fork in the trail , take it ! Rentals for Canoes , Kayaks , Rafts , boats serving the Kenai canoe trail system and the Kenai river for over 15 years . www . alaskacanoetrips . com 04 - 17 - 2010 # 9 Yes , CL is a great tool . This one is pretty old , the oldest we looked at by far . Not sure if you can use the serial numbers to determine the age . The PFD ' s and paddles will probably cost more than the boat did . Quick Navigation Alaska Canoeing Top Bookmarks Posting Permissions You may not post new threads You may not post replies post attachments edit your posts BB code is On Smilies are On [ IMG ] code is [ VIDEO ] code is HTML code is Off Forum Rules | [
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Current Specials Thanks for visiting LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Author Thread PWICK911 Registered User Join Date Apr 2015 Posts 254 911sc engine upgrade top 3 things to do My 1982sc is due for the engine and gearbox to be overhauled Gearbox replacing syncros and general tidy up At the same time I am going to overhaul the engine not me a company will do it I have a budget So realistically what engine mods will release more power Or add more power Am I better to concentrate on the heads Compression Pistons Top 3 changes that would improve the engine but not ruin the day to day drivability It is a street car Thanks 08192016 0511 AM Pelican Parts Catalog Tech Articles Promos Specials 1 Frog76S 911 Mania Join Date Jan 2014 Location PDX Posts 142 Garage Hello Check out the current thread started by vereeken its a good place to start Good luck 08192016 0622 AM Pelican Parts Catalog Tech Articles Promos Specials 2 Discseven Registered User Join Date Oct 2012 Location Miami Posts 2977 Garage PW Id start with 1 Compression Consider new pistons cylinders new valves or valve grind new guides new seats Depending on your engines current status that alone can make a noticeable difference in performance Combine that with new syncros coupler minimal dollars for a performance boost compared to where your engine is now And Im talking stock stuff Competition stuff can get expensive 2 Know some guys like a special cams and Wong chip for actual added performance I think that is a slip in so no head modsdont quote me on that Someone will surly chime in on this 3 Exhaust system Again there are guys that know much more than I so better to let the qualified advise Karl Current 80 Silver Targa w 85 32 79 Anthracite 930 Prior 74 Carrera 79 Silver 930 79 Black 930 08192016 0626 AM Pelican Parts Catalog Tech Articles Promos Specials 3 Dpmulvan Registered User Join Date Dec 2014 Location SyracuseNy Posts 1611 Wong chip in a 82sc 08192016 0641 AM Pelican Parts Catalog Tech Articles Promos 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I just unintentionally fell asleep and was woken by my dad coming home from work and felt horrendous after , feel completely out of it , so sick and dizzy , plus I sometimes get a pain in my stomach which may be because of stress or stomach problems and that is hurting . I was wondering two things , one , why does Any ideas ? Thank you Ps . My nap was about 20 mins which I thought was a good amount time for a nap . Jun 17 , 2013 Sasha Fine , thank you Messages 17,863 Likes 34,201 Location UK I do n ' t have exactly the same symptoms as you but I do feel like death after a nap - malaise and aching . When I wake in the night , I also often though not always feel like death . I ' d love to know what that ' s all about . If I wake early - say 5 a.m. - and get back to sleep , guaranteed like - death when I wake later . jeffrez Senior Member 1,112 681 Location NY It might be possible that you just need longer naps . I sometimes feel like crap after a short 15 - 20 nap , but if I really get a good 1 or 2 hour mini - sleep nap , I can actually wake up feeling quite refreshed ( after that initial few minutes upon waking when you feel like death warmed over , lol ) . Sometimes more refreshed than following a usual night time sleep . I think in general we could all use more sleep , jmho . It ' s just so hard with computer / internet , phone , tv , etc . always around and available , speaking personally at least . Valentijn and Little Bluestem rosie26 Senior Member 2,441 5,221 Hi Willhm , I have had this problem since having ME . I never allow myself to go to sleep during the day even in the early years of severe insomnia . Because I would wake up so weak , nauseous and feel like death ! I think it might be either that our blood pressure goes down too low or it could be a glucose thing in the blood ( too low ) ? Oh it would be so sweet to be able to catch up on sleep during the day that missed out during the night . I Beyond Juice Me Up , Scotty ! ! ! 1,122 780 Murcia , Spain Count me in the group of shitty naps . I have had this problem even before being " sick " I think ( maybe I always were in a latent form ! ) . I just know longer naps doesnt make it better . Jun 18 , 2013 soxfan 963 586 North Carolina I rest in the afternoon but never fall asleep . . .when I get up after an hour or so I feel completely horrible . Even worse then before I laid down . I would n ' t even bother doing it since I always feel so awful when I get up but there is no way I ca n ' t . . .I would never make it through dinner and till my 9 thirty bedtime . Sometimes I try to just rest Ina chair so I am not laying down but that usually does n ' t help . So I feel horrible even if I do n ' t actually fall asleep . .I would like to but find it impossible to even doze . Jun 18 , 2013 L liquid sky 371 213 I try hard not to ever lay down during the day . I generally can not fall all the way asleep and I feel horrible when I get back up . Actually , I feel horrible when I am lying there too . I believe it has something to do with being in the supine position . Maybe not getting enough oxygen / blood flow to the brain ? I feel awful when I wake up in the morning also . It takes a few hours to improve somewhat . I have been wondering about getting the blood flow / drainage checked out to my head / neck area . I also tend to desaturate when lying down , so could be connected . It is horrible to be so exhausted and know you will pay if you lie down . soxfan SOC 7,849 16,346 Huh ! That ' s quite a few people all having a symptom I do n ' t think I ' ve heard of before . I ' ll be interested to see if it ' s common among PWME or not . When I was sicker than I am currently , I would also feel awful enough after naps of less than an hour , that I would avoid them , but I do n ' t think I felt as awful as others are reporting . Mostly I just felt more tired , brain foggy , headachey , and irritable along with general malaise , but nothing in the nausea area - - but then I do n ' t have GI symptoms anyway . I could take long ( 1 - 5 hr ) " naps " during the day I ' m guessing my poor short nap problem is not the same as other people are describing here . Beyond Juice Me Up , Scotty ! ! ! 1,122 780 Murcia , Spain Its interesting yes , now that I think about it this feeling awful after " siestas " could be a marker of bad health of some sort . As far as I know , lots of " normal " people say that naps make them feel refreshed . For me it takes hours to overcome the nausea , malaise and slight headaches . I dont take naps anymore , indeed , why bother . I try to sleep at night . rosie26 963 586 North Carolina I actually feel horrible when I am laying down as well . I know it will always turn out bad but have the overwhelming need to rest . It is especially bad when I work and come home afterwards and rest . . .that is when I feel the worse . I do n ' t have any type of stomach problems but do feel just totally disgusting when I get up . . . 2,441 5,221 I do n ' t understand why I do n ' t have this problem when I wake up during the night , it only happens to me during the day . And it is so awful , I feel like my heart is hardly beating , feel sick and very weak , I walk all bent over and weak and fragile . It eventually passes but takes hours . Wish I knew what the cause was . Perhaps get the pain in the stomach checked out by doctor incase it ' s something else going on Willhm , if ukxmrv 4,406 4,565 London Are people sleeping with their beds raised so the heads are up ? I ' m wondering about something Dr Cheney said about heart problems and lying down flat . Is it the sleeping or the lying down for people ? jeffrez 1,112 681 NY ukxmrv said : Are people sleeping with their beds raised so the heads are up ? I ' m wondering about something Dr Cheney said about heart problems and lying down flat . Is it the sleeping or the lying down for people ? Easy enough to check . Just lie down for 20 minutes . ; - ) If you ' re someone who feels worse after a nap , I doubt you ' d feel as bad from that . What ' s most likely happening ( imho ) is that the brain is increasing slow waves as one goes into the sleep state , and then probably not cycling back up into the fully waking state , keeping one stuck in that kind of spacey , groggy place for a few hours , with all the attendant para - / sympathetic / hpaa changes that go along with that ( lower blood pressure , lower heart rate , etc . ) . taniaaust1 and It ' s the falling asleep during the day that is the problem for me . I ' ve always had my bed raised at the head , since being sick , stuck a pillow under mattress , had to do this as light - headedness , dizziness was too bad , sinus , sore head problems required raised bed at head . Could be overly sensitive to that sleep cycle you mention jeffrez ? might be a cause I have also experienced these same symptoms after taking certain painkiller tablets , their is one brand of Panadol that I can not take , the original brand is fine . It has happened 3 times to me and now stick to what I know is ok . S sleepwalking 56 1 Wild Wild West , US I also feel like death after a nap ; nauseous , shaky . Little Bluestem All Good Things Must Come to an End 4,906 6,142 Do those of you who feel bad after naps dream a lot when you nap . I sometime do and then feel bad when I wake up . I feel like I get more real rest lying in bed awake listening to non - commercial radio or music CDs . Sasha Fine , thank you 17,863 34,201 UK ukxmrv said : Are people sleeping with their beds raised so the heads are up ? I ' m wondering about something Dr Cheney said about heart problems and lying down flat . Is it the sleeping or the lying down for people ? i started to write that for me , it ' s the sleeping , but then I wondered . I spend a lot of time in the day lying down and feel fine but that ' s in shorter bursts ( 15 - 20 mins ) than when I nap ( 40 mins ) or sleep at night - but during the night , this feeling is n ' t reliably there and seems to depend on the time . If I wake at 4am it ' s not there ; if I wake at 7am , it is . Cort had a piece on heads - up sleeping a few days ago . I tried resting on a tilted surface a few years ago ( I had a 6 - foot long foam wedge cut to my spec ) and felt a bit worse lying down on it during the day . I was too scared to sleep on it because someone raised the possibility that you might get supine hypertension . I ' m thinking of getting a gentler slope cut and trying it again . Jun 19 , 2013 what ' s supine hypertension ? Jun 19 , 2013 rosie26 said : what ' s supine hypertension ? It ' s your blood pressure going too high ( hypertension ) when you ' re lying flat ( supine ) . Thanks Sasha , I like your " Fine , thank you " it does make me laugh . 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http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/warning-low-potassium-is-dangerous.14410/ | Home Forums Symptoms and Treatments Treatment and Therapy Detox : Methylation ; B12 ; Glutathione ; Chelation WARNING - LOW POTASSIUM IS DANGEROUS Freddd Jan 30 , 2012 1 2 3 9 Next F Freddd Senior Member Messages 5,032 Likes 1,573 Location Salt Lake City When a person gets methylation going , even only partially , the single most dangerous side effect is dropping potassium . In the absence of kidney damage which people usually know about and certain drugs that cause the potassium to accumulate , low potassium is the odds on favorite after staerting methylation . As methylation starts up , no ifs ands or buts typically , in a day or less with the active protocol , when those symptoms hit on the 3rd day typically or a little later , it ' s virtually always potassium . This can get dangerous From Pubmed - http : / / www . ncbi . nlm . nih . gov / pubmedhealth / PMH0001510 / Hypokalemia Potassium - low ; Low blood potassium Last reviewed : May 29 , 2011 . Hypokalemia is a lower - than - normal amount of potassium in the blood . Causes , incidence , and risk factors Potassium is needed for cells , especially nerve and muscle cells , to function properly . You get potassium through food . The kidneys remove excess potassium in the urine to keep a proper balance of the mineral in the body . Hypokalemia is a metabolic disorder that occurs when the level of potassium in the blood drops too low . Possible causes of hypokalemia include : Antibiotics ( penicillin , nafcillin , carbenicillin , gentamicin , amphotericin B , foscarnet ) Diarrhea ( including the use of too many laxatives , which can cause diarrhea ) Diseases that affect the kidneys ' ability to retain potassium ( Liddle syndrome , Cushing syndrome , hyperaldosteronism , Bartter syndrome , Fanconi syndrome ) Diuretic medications , which can cause excess urination Eating disorders ( such as bulimia ) Eating large amounts of licorice or using products such as herbal teas and chewing tobaccos that contain licorice made with glycyrrhetinic acid ( this substance is no longer used in licorice made in the United States ) Magnesium deficiency Sweating Vomiting Symptoms A small drop in potassium usually does n ' t cause symptoms . However , a big drop in the level can be life threatening . Symptoms of hypokalemia include : Abnormal heart rhythms ( dysrhythmias ) , especially in people with heart disease Constipation Fatigue Muscle damage ( rhabdomyolysis ) Muscle weakness or spasms Paralysis ( which can include the lungs ) Signs and tests Your health care provider will take a sample of your blood to check potassium levels . Other tests might include : Arterial blood gas Basic or comprehensive metabolic panel Electrocardiogram ( ECG ) Blood tests to check glucose , magnesium , calcium , sodium , phosphorous , thyroxine , and aldosterone levels Treatment Mild hypokalemia can be treated by taking potassium supplements by mouth . Persons with more severe cases may need to get potassium through a vein ( intravenously ) . If you need to use diuretics , your doctor may switch you to a form that keeps potassium in the body ( such as triamterene , amiloride , or spironolactone ) . One type of hypokalemia that causes paralysis occurs when there is too much thyroid hormone in the blood ( thyrotoxic periodic paralysis ) . Treatment lowers the thyroid hormone level , and raises the potassium level in the blood . Expectations ( prognosis ) Taking potassium supplements can usually correct the problem . In severe cases , without proper treatment a severe drop in potassium levels can lead to serious heart rhythm problems that can be fatal . Complications In severe cases , patients can develop paralysis that can be life threatening . Hypokalemia also can lead to dangerous irregular heartbeat . Over time , lack of potassium can lead to kidney damage ( hypokalemic nephropathy ) . Jan 30 , 2012 Aroa Anju rosieness and 3 others R Rosebud Dairy Senior Member Messages 166 Likes 6 This is critical information ! ! Thank you Freddd . In women who are still in their fertile years , the first full menstrual cycle after start up may be an ABSOLUTELY critical time for potassium . Feeling faint or nauseated can be signs of this , especially if the patient has a history of heavy periods . Symptoms of low potassium could possibly be felt in the luteal phase ( the 14 or so days ) leading to menstruation . Nauseated in the evening during your PMS time ? This could be low potassium . Having " rescue " potassium on hand in the car , at home , in your purse , etc . is prudent , wise , and possibly life - saving . Making your supervising doctor aware of this issue also educates them as to components of your own care that could seem otherwise mysterious . Bottom line for women in their fertile years - - A heavy period could throw you down really really hard , and rather unexpectedly . If this occurs concurrently with 1 - 2 days of paradoxical folate deficiency , then you just might feel like you could die . REALLY . Paying attention to your own care , and taking time to do so is so very important ! KappaMaki Adlyfrost and L ' engle R richvank 2,732 917 Hi , all . I , too , want to encourage everyone to be careful about lowering potassium too much . I think that this issue is a good reason to go a little slower in restoring the methylation cycle function , and with it , the folate levels , which promote more rapid production of DNA and RNA , and hence more rapid cell proliferation and a greater demand for potassium . I realize that Freddd ' s views about this are different , and I understand that he and some others are not able to benefit from use of hydroxocobalamin , but I just want to note again that for those who can use it ( and about two - thirds of the people in our clinical study apparently were able to , because they benefited significantly ) , use of hydroxocobalamin allows the cells of the body to maintain control over how fast the methylation cycle and the folate metabolism recover , and thus this can take place more slowly In general , I have found that when dealing with a complex system , of which the human body is a prime example , it ' s not a good idea to make fast changes . Best regards , Rich F 5,032 1,573 Location Salt Lake City As Rich mentions , a certain degree of caution is desireable . I feel it is better to do the mb12 and have the startup in a predictale manner , so that one is prepared to adjust to turning methylation on NOW , rather than some time unexpected in the next 6 months or not . MY OPINION is that knowing it is going to start in 2 - 4 days and be prepared to titrate potassium then and there , knowing it is going to start , is far safer . How many people are going to carry potassium I suppose a case can be made for leaving people in active b12 and paradoxical folate deficiencies for the rest of their lives so they do n ' t have to deal with healing and being healthy and the things that happen . Instead I will help identify these things and others as people find them . One of the things that bothers me , and I may have seen a couple of examples so far , nothing concrete but certainly suggestive , are people for whom , no doubt in the 1 / 3 of those who are wrirte So far we can recognize or suspect - Recognize : induced low potassium . paradoxical folate deficiency from folic acid paradoxical folate deficiency from folinic acid and vegetable food source folate induced folate deficiency from NAC , glutathione and whey showstopper deficiency of vit D showstopper deficiency of zinc showstopper deficiency of SAM - e showstopper deficiency of magnesium showstopper deficiency of l - carnitine fumarate worsened active b12 deficiency from hycbl worsened active b12 deficiency from cyanocbl Suspect : Showstopper deficiency of Vitamin C , subclinical scurvy or worse . paradoxical folate deficiency from folic acid - worsened or triggered Subacute combined degeneration paradoxical folate deficiency from folinic acid vegetable food source folate - worsened or triggered Subacute combined degeneration induced folate deficiency from NAC , glutathione and whey - worsened or triggered Subacute combined degeneration and in conjuction with methylfolate worsened or triggered Subacute combined degeneration induced by inadequate neurological activity of hycbl and in conjuction with methylfolate worsened or triggered Subacute combined degeneration induced by inadequate neurological activity of cycbl Adlyfrost Rosebud Dairy 166 6 I think my recent k - drops were possible showstoppers . They occurred as a great convergence : primarily my own ignorance ( I had so many months of morning sickness that nausea was merely something to be dismissed as trivial . . . . . . . . . .NO MORE ! ) my docs ' ignorance . . . . . . . .but this is just generally accepted as the way things are my own cycle issues my possible re - re - start symptoms kicking the potassium switch to " ON " at the same time as the other issue . Now , if I can just nail down whether that one stupid Diet Coke yesterday cause today ' s stomach issues . . . . . Again , thank you to both thinkers here . Words from you both help make me better and a better patient . It is so good to feel better . Hi Rosebud , I want to mention that Nutrasweet gives me totally terrible rip - roaring headaches . I have n ' t tried any aspartame since the mid to late 80s prior to my crash at the end of 87 . adreno PR activist 4,841 10,878 I believe I almost killed myself yesterday , due to potassium deficiency . After having supplemented 1 - 2g per day for weeks , I was having severe diarrhea and cloudy urine , and so I thought maybe I was overdoing the potassium and took a break from supplementing , instead eating lots of potassium rich foods . I felt reasonally OK yesterday , and went for some exercise in the gym . I very fast felt very sick ; my heart was jumping all over the place ( felt like arythmia ) , and I felt like I was gonna collapse . At one point I wondered whether I would make it home . After I got home I took 500mg potassium , and half hour later I ate a banana . A few hours later I was n ' t feeling much better , and again this thought of overdoing the potassium entered my mind . So I tried taking 1000mg calcium , with two teaspoons of sea salt . This was a very bad idea . Tachycardia and blood pressure skyrocketed , and I felt very sick again . 500mg potassium and another banana plus half a cantaloupe , and I started to feel a little better . I feel better today . It ' s afternoon here , and I ' ve already taking 1200mg of potassium , plus two bananas , one avocado and several other veggies and meats . It seem like I ' m producing cells at an incredible rate , or my electrolyte levels are just very unstable . I have low cortisol and POTS , and because of some degree of autonomic dysfunction , I am probably not controlling my electrolyte levels very well . I have been taking 10mg mb12 , quarter tab adb12 ( source naturals ) and 3mg methylfolate daily . I think I ' m going to reduce the dose to about half of that for now . Every time I think I ' ve overdone potassium , it ' s just the opposite : I ' m not getting enough . Looks like I need about 2000mg supplemental , 3 bananas , half a cantaloupe , an avocado , some potatoes and tomatoes , and I still feel borderline low . I constantly feel sluggish and brain fogged , shifts in tingling levels , muscle twitching , cold extremities , and my cloudy urine is back ( do n ' t know the cause ) . I just ca n ' t seem to find a level of potassium where I feel normal . Then again , I was n ' t feeling normal before starting the protocol . Jan 31 , 2012 adreno said : I believe I almost killed myself yesterday , due to potassium deficiency . After having supplemented 1 - 2g per day for weeks , I was having severe diarrhea and cloudy urine , and so I thought maybe I was overdoing the potassium and took a break from supplementing , instead eating lots of potassium rich foods . I felt reasonally OK yesterday , and went for some exercise in the gym . I very fast felt very sick ; my heart was jumping all over the place ( felt like arythmia ) , and I felt like I was gonna collapse . At one point I wondered whether I would make it home . After I got home I took 500mg potassium , and half hour later I ate a banana . A few hours later I was n ' t feeling much better , and again this thought of overdoing the potassium entered my mind . So I tried taking 1000mg calcium , with two teaspoons of sea salt . This was a very bad idea . Tachycardia and blood pressure skyrocketed , and I felt very sick again . 500mg potassium and another banana plus half a cantaloupe , and I started to feel a little better . I feel better today . It ' s afternoon here , and I ' ve already taking 1200mg of potassium , plus two bananas , one avocado and several other veggies and meats . It seem like I ' m producing cells at an incredible rate , or my electrolyte levels are just very unstable . I have low cortisol and POTS , and because of some degree of autonomic dysfunction , I am probably not controlling my electrolyte levels very well . I have been taking 10mg mb12 , quarter tab adb12 ( source naturals ) and 3mg methylfolate daily . I think I ' m going to reduce the dose to about half of that for now . Every time I think I ' ve overdone potassium , it ' s just the opposite : I ' m not getting enough . Looks like I need about 2000mg supplemental , 3 bananas , half a cantaloupe , an avocado , some potatoes and tomatoes , and I still feel borderline low . I constantly feel sluggish and brain fogged , shifts in tingling levels , muscle twitching , cold extremities , and my cloudy urine is back ( do n ' t know the cause ) . I just ca n ' t seem to find a level of potassium where I feel normal . Then again , I was n ' t feeling normal before starting the protocol . Hi Adreno , Part of the problem is how to know just fast our body is cranking out cells . I had my worst occurances when I started l - carnitine fumarate . I had been on mb12 for almost 2 years . I had been on adb12 more than 1 year . Healing was flat . I started taking the l - carnitine fumarate . bang . Suddenly I ' m putting on muscle at a totally outrageous rate . The problem is that it is n ' t limited to mb12 . It can happen with the " last in " Adreno , I found it worked best if I could find a base level of potassium with my daily vitamins that keeps me mostly out of trouble and pretty steady and then just have to take an additional 300mg 2 or 3 times a day if needed . Becasue it is water soluable , I find multiple smaller doses works better than huge swings . Jan 31 , 2012 adreno PR activist 4,841 10,878 I have been taking fumarate for a long time , along with smaller doses of methylcobalamin and methylfolate . So maybe I have experienced the same increased healing rate as you did , when I upped the dose of the mb12 and mf . I ' ll reduce to 2.5mg mb12 , and 1mg mf , twice daily , along with quarter tab adb12 and 500mg fumarate once daily . As long as I need extra potassium , things are moving in the right direction , I ' m guessing . I also bought myself a pulse watch , which I will use to keep an eye on heart rate during exercise . And from now on I ' ll bring potassium to the gym . adreno said : I have been taking fumarate for a long time , along with smaller doses of methylcobalamin and methylfolate . So maybe I have experienced the same increased healing rate as you did , when I upped the dose of the mb12 and mf . I ' ll reduce to 2.5mg mb12 , and 1mg mf , twice daily , along with quarter tab adb12 and 500mg fumarate once daily . As long as I need extra potassium , things are moving in the right direction , I ' m guessing . I also bought myself a pulse watch , which I will use to keep an eye on heart rate during exercise . And from now on I ' ll bring potassium to the gym . Hi Adreno , As it appears that a good 75 % or so of the effect of mb12 takes place with the first 150mcg or so , I doubt that reducing to 2.5mg sublingual ( say 500mcg + - ) will make any noticable difference on potassium . There is not a lot of grading one can do as it appears that the cell formation for any given " level " turns on when all the needed items are present . So some level is either " stalled " or it turns on . Enid 3,309 864 UK I can imagine that Fredd - why with the minimal tests in the UK is the body leaching potassium ( urine glowed with it ) No change of life long diet . Freddd said : Hi Adreno , As it appears that a good 75 % or so of the effect of mb12 takes place with the first 150mcg or so , I doubt that reducing to 2.5mg sublingual ( say 500mcg + - ) will make any noticable difference on potassium . There is not a lot of grading one can do as it appears that the cell formation for any given " level " turns on when all the needed items are present . So some level is either " stalled " or it turns on . I thought we agreed that higher doses causes more healing than lower , which one should think would translate to deeper drop in potassium . If healing is an on / off switch , why would we take higher doses ? For penetration ? Hi Rich , Recognize : induced low potassium . paradoxical folate deficiency from folic acid paradoxical folate deficiency from folinic acid and vegetable food source folate induced folate deficiency from NAC , glutathione and whey showstopper deficiency of vit D showstopper deficiency of zinc showstopper deficiency of SAM - e showstopper deficiency of magnesium showstopper deficiency of l - carnitine fumarate worsened active b12 deficiency from hycbl worsened active b12 deficiency from cyanocbl Suspect : Showstopper deficiency of Vitamin C , subclinical scurvy or worse . paradoxical folate deficiency from folic acid - worsened or triggered Subacute combined degeneration paradoxical folate deficiency from folinic acid vegetable food source folate - worsened or triggered Subacute combined degeneration induced folate deficiency from NAC , glutathione and whey - worsened or triggered Subacute combined degeneration and in conjuction with methylfolate worsened or triggered Subacute combined degeneration induced by inadequate neurological activity of hycbl and in conjuction with methylfolate worsened or triggered Subacute combined degeneration induced by inadequate neurological activity of cycbl As all these things are either identifiable or likely identified , and much of it comes from research , why is there not more recognition . One looks up all these things like mb12 and Metafolin and so on , nowhere do they warn against hypokalemia . I suspect two casues . first that they are in the " everything has side effects " mode and do n ' t really pay attention to what it is and second , there is no realization that people can be in lots of trouble even if not fatal in the potassium range So in another 70 years or so , say 10 cycles of research or so , to come to an understanding of mb12 , adb12 and Metafolin as individual items , another 70 years to understand each pair , another 70 years for each triad ad infinitum . So when are they going to understand something as complex as the active b12 protocol ? 200 years ? 500 years ? I and everybody needs healing NOW . To go from the simplified protocol to the active b12 protocol is what , about 30 research cycles as they adjust one factoer If it is SO OBVIOUS to us taking these vitamins , why is it so invisible to the doctors ? Why is n ' t this an " of course " ? Where does this studied ignorance come from ? I worked in an environment with many of these people through the years . What so often happens is that some renegades , like you and me , come along and start looking for things from a different viewpoint . We actually think vitamins can do something . When I tell doctors that I have a questionaire that in combination As a software developer I worked on the active b12 protocol from a very different viewpoint . Instead of having one unchangeable set of items , I did many mini - trials to settle on the dose of mb12 , brand of mb12 , sublingual time , adb12 . type of carnitine , dose of carnitine , injectable b12 dosage amounts and timeing , Metafolin amounts , times , with and without meals , etc trying to pin down each variation . The same with gltuathione to a more limited degree . When it worsened my Subacute combined degneration it I think that the anti nutrition stance of the AMA and other bodies set the tone with " anything vitamins appear to do is placebo " . I doubt that any of those people watched how quickly scurvy , beriberi and pellagra could turn around with the right nutrients . They gained a false idea of vitamins from all the inactive vitamirs used instead of the real thing . Denial runs deep . So now to protect 70 years of research we get Codex Allimentarius to prevent embarassments like me who happen to notice this very rapid effectiveness of real Enid said : I can imagine that Fredd - why with the minimal tests in the UK is the body leaching potassium ( urine glowed with it ) No change of life long diet . Hi Enid , I do n ' t understand your post . Can you please explain it to me ? I thought we agreed that higher doses causes more healing than lower , which one should think would translate to deeper drop in potassium . If healing is an on / off switch , why would we take higher doses ? For penetration ? Hi Adreno , You are forgetting the " level " thing . The fastest cell duplicating tissues , ie epithelium ; our skin , stomach , intestines , mouth , lungs are both the first things noticalbly affected when sutdown occurs from lack of Metafolin and also come back up soonest . Higher doses can penetrate deeper , be available a longer part of the day etc . At a certain point the mb12 suddenly penetrates the CNS and other tissues may also have that sudden penetration effect . The effect is NOT linear . With each doubling above that base amout , each doubling appears to go about half way from where the level of healing is to 100 % . So it is a dininishing returns thing that approqaches a limit . 5mg sublingual does more healing than 1mg but NOT 5 times as much , maybe only 50 % Enid 3,309 864 UK Fredd your post 15 . In my early days for some unknown reason on an unchanged life long diet my urine shot to neon yellow . All my Doc bemused could say " never met except too many bananas " There were many other problems at that time too . Just feel this an indication / warning of internal " chemistry " gone awry . Why should one be losing potassium on little more at that time than being on recognised ME supplements ( eg vitamins - nothing remotely serious ) . I later heard this an adrenal problem so tried supplemental support - eventually relief . snowathlete 5,374 14,591 Until I started the protocol recently my urine was neon yellow . For me it was b complex as when I stopped my urine is now fairly pale . I am also peeing more now I ' m on the protocol for some reason . dannybex 3,325 2,322 Seattle Hi Fred , The RDA for potassium is roughly 3500 - 4700 mgs . In general , do you think we need more than that during this rebuilding / healing process ? Enid said : Fredd your post 15 . In my early days for some unknown reason on an unchanged life long diet my urine shot to neon yellow . All my Doc bemused could say " never met except too many bananas " There were many other problems at that time too . Just feel this an indication / warning of internal " chemistry " gone awry . Why should one be losing potassium on little more at that time than being on recognised ME supplements ( eg vitamins - nothing remotely serious ) . I later heard this an adrenal problem so tried supplemental support - eventually relief . Hi Enid , B2 , alone or in a b - complex , will make the urine a " neon " yellow . Potassium is colorless . B12 darkens it towards a darker yellow , then with more , orange or even red . If no yellow pink towards magenta . 1 2 3 9 Next You must log in or register to reply here . Home Forums Symptoms and Treatments Treatment and Therapy Detox : Methylation ; B12 ; Glutathione ; Chelation | [
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Rattletrap2 Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Registered : 06 / 21 / 07 Posts : 132 Loc : Mono , Ontario , Canada I was just quoted a price of $ 100 per US Gallon for Fathead Minnows . Does this seem reasonable ? How many minnows would be in a gallon ( approximately ) ? I would think they were sold by the dozen , or hundred , or even by the pound . . . .but a gallon is a fluid measurement . Thanks ! Top # 210879 03 / 31 / 10 01 : 12 AM Re : Fathead Minnows . . .by the Gallon ? Re : Rattletrap2 The Pond Frog Lunker Registered : 01 / 25 / 10 Posts : 914 Loc : NorCal I must admit that is bizarre . I ' ve seen both by the pound and by count . By the gallon ? I need a conversion chart for that one . A gallon is what , around 8 pounds ? Top # 210880 01 : 32 AM Re : Fathead Minnows . . .by the Gallon ? Re : The Pond Frog Rainman Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame Registered : 06 / 06 / 07 Posts : 7021 Loc : St Louis , MO area Fatheads average $ 7 - $ 12 US per pound so roughly 8 - 9 pounds per gallon is reasonable . Rainman www . TilapiaStockers . com # 210883 05 : 29 AM Re : Rainman JKB Hall of Fame 2015 Registered : 12 / 03 / 09 Posts : 6692 Loc : Michigan For all practical purposes , a gallon of fresh water weighs 8.33 lbs . A gallon of fatheads will weigh somewhere in the upper 7 lb range . Fatheads sold by the gallon are usually displaced , meaning , how many minnows does it take to displace 1 gallon of water . They are sold both by the pound and gallon around here . Highest price I have seen around here was 44.00 / gallon . Some sell them by the pound , usually between 5.00 - 7.00 / lb retail . Prices have gone up about 40 - 50 % in the past few years . 100.00 / gallon seems a bit steep , that would be about 14.00 / lb give or take . Around here they usually sell fhm in the 250 / lb range , being market size . This was copied from a previous post by EWEST Edited by JKB ( 06 : 43 AM # 210910 10 : 03 AM Re : JKB rcooked Registered : 04 / 25 / 09 Posts : 147 Loc : Marion , Ohio I ' ll be able to hopefully provide a better answer today after Jones fish brings me some minnows . I ordered 5 pounds , and I too have been curious how many minnows to expect . The last guy I got some off of did them by the gallon , and when I saw the bag of water and minnows , I was not impressed . I ' ll have a better feel for things later this afternoon . It was a gallon of water for sure , minnows , not so much . I know Jones is more money , but I am curious to see the quality and reliability of their service compared to the individual I used before . I subscribe ! 1 / 3 Acre pond - Central , OH Deepest point 11 ft . Stocked with : Hybrid Bluegill , Bluegill , Yellow Perch , Largemouth Bass , White Amur . # 210918 10 : 49 AM Re : rcooked Magnolia Rick Registered : 02 / 04 / 10 Posts : 156 Loc : texas When I get them down here in south Texas a pounds about 300 to 350 medium size . It cost me $ 10.00 per pound . just my little 2 cents which is worth .05 cent these days Just working my pond for Grandkids GET THE NET PAWPAW # 210921 11 : 04 AM Re : Magnolia Rick rcooked Registered : 04 / 25 / 09 Posts : 147 Loc : Marion , Ohio " just my little 2 cents which is worth .05 cent these days " Everything is bigger in Texas I see . . . lol I subscribe ! 1 / 3 Acre pond - Central , OH Deepest point 11 ft . Stocked with : Hybrid Bluegill , Bluegill , Yellow Perch , Largemouth Bass , White Amur . # 210988 06 : 30 PM Re : Rainman Rattletrap2 Ambassador Field Correspondent Registered : 06 / 21 / 07 Posts : 132 Loc : Mono , Ontario , Canada Okay , thanks guys ! I e - mailed the supplier up here and this is what he replied with . His average is 2 " fish and there are about 300 per pound or 2,400 per gallon . This goes along with EWests info as well . He says he uses a pickle jar as a standard . I ' m still having a hard time imagining 2,400 x 2 " minnows stuffed into a 1 gallon jar . . . .but I guess that ' s just me ! LOL Unfortunately , I do n ' t think we have many suppliers to choose from up here . He says he sells out with a waiting list . # 211025 09 : 23 PM Re : Rattletrap2 CJBS2003 Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame Registered : 01 / 19 / 09 Posts : 10457 Loc : northern VA You ' d be amazed at how many of those little guys can fit into a gallon ! Take some photos if you do buy them and of them being in a glass pickle jar . . . I ' d love to see ' em ! Men and fish are alike . They both get into trouble when they open their mouths . 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http://forums.powwows.com/f34/what-should-i-wear-powwow-49970/index3.html | Pow Wow Calendar Pow Wow Photos Pow Wow Videos Native American Music Native American Information Forums Shop Register Groups Members List Search Today ' s Posts Mark Forums Read Connect with Facebook 1 Likes Page 3 of 3 < 1 2 3 Forum Home > Off Topic > Chit Chat What Should I Wear to a Powwow ? LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes 03 - 24 - 2009 , 10 : 47 AM 41 xTekno Standing Rock Items Join Date : Jan 2004 Location : Tsézhintah , AZ Posts : 21,395 Blog Entries : 15 Credits : 91,361.05 Savings : 1.00 One day at a powwow . . . Quote : Originally Posted by Bodica Actually it was pretty good . I took your advice about going casual , and just wore a pair of black sneakers , a pair of black jeans , and a light black sweater . And it ' s a good thing that I did . I knew it was going to be a little chilly before I left , but even so , It was a lot colder than I had expected , when I got there ( around noon ) . Fortunatly , the Powwow had been moved indoors because of the weather . They held it inside what used to be a high school gym ( although the high school itself had been torn down ) . I could see several Scottish tartans hanging from 2 of the walls , and was told that they had also used it to host the last local Highland games . It was so packed , that it was filled to at least twice capacity . When I got there , all the spectator seats ( of which there were a lot , since they were built for a gym ) were full , so I just sat on the floor . I was just in time for the beginning of the stories , but unfortunatly , the microphone was so garbled , that I could n ' t really understand what the story - tellers were saying . After they were finnished with the stories , I got in line for some lunch . There were quite a few people in front of me , so I had to wait about 20 minutes before I could place my order . But I did n ' t mind ; I just passed the time chatting with other people in line . I had a bowl of Machu soup ( corn soup with sausage and a few other things in it ) , and an " Indian taco " ( which is made with frybread ) . They were both awesome . Then afterwards , I decided to check out the vendors . Although there were only three vendors stands , there were still some pretty good things . Two ladies at one of the stands were selling NA DVDs ( some fiction , some not ) , and I bought a DVD from them called " Tales of Wonder I & II " . On the DVD , a man named Gregg Howard ( who ' s Cherokee / Powhatan ) tells traditional NA stories to a group of children , and also teaches several words in Cherokee and tells a bit about Cherokee history . I also bought NA - style small purse made of very soft leather , with some nice fringing and beadwork on it ; as well as a hand - woven bracelet which also had some nice beadwork on it . And of course , I also bought a program . The gourd dancers were very good ( one little boy who was dancing had red and blue regalia made from a Spiderman blanket , with a picture of Spiderman on the front , and on the back , and blue and red fringework ) . Only two girls did Fancy Shawl dancing , but they were impressive . Apparently dancing like that is not easy to learn ; and takes a bit of stamina . When it was Round - dance time , I joined in . I took up position right behind a NA guy and tried to imitate him , but the rythm did n ' t quite flow right , so my dancing came out looking more like somthing from Riverdance ( a woman who was dancing near me even asked if I did traditional Irish dancing , because her daughter did ) . The powwow drew quite a diverse crowd . You would n ' t believe the number of Cherokee and Choctaw there ( there were also some Apache , and a couple of other Nations ) . There were actually two drumming circles . The host drummers ( who were from Louisiana ) , and group of drummers from Mississippi . There were also several Goths , and quite a few bikers . Of course , not all of the Powwow was quite as impressive . There was a family of Cherokee who were weaving and selling baskets there . They were also selling some other things . I looked at one of their tables and saw a rather small tube made of beads . I asked one of them what it was , and she said it was a cigarette - lighter - holder . On the table , I also saw beaded keychains . Unbelievable . And in another stand I saw a guy who was selling some hunting knives . . . which were made in China . He was also selling " dream - catchers " made with cotton instead of feathers . However he was also selling some pretty good stuff ; like assorted types of small crystals ( quartz , amythyst , etc . ) . Nothing expensive , but they were pretty . The Head Man Dancer was a Mohawk from Canada named Matthew Rasonako ' he Montour ; and his regalia was complely traditional . He was even wearing traditional - style black & white face - paint . The guy was huge He was deffinatly a good deal over six feet tall . But I talked with him . He seemd like a really nice guy . The NA vets there were each wearing vests that said which branch of the military that they had served in ; and vets from each branch were called in to the circle to be honored ; one branch at a time . Then MC invited all vets there ( both Native and non ) to come into the circle to be honored . All in all , I had really nice time . Although it lasted until 6 : 00 , I left at about 4 : 30 because the closing ceromony had been held , and I had quite a long drive home ahead of me , and I did n ' t want to be driving at night because I did n ' t want to get lost . As soon as I walked out of the building , I was glad of my diecision , because it was completly overcast , the temperature had dropped low enough to make me shiver , and the wind had really picked up . I got home ok , though . What a report , eh ? 03 - 25 - 2009 , 06 : 43 PM 42 injunboy kitozudoto Join Date : Apr 2002 Location : nizhoni arizoni Posts : 2,511 Credits : 1,812.27 Savings : 0.00 i know ennit , i guess there was no bathroom breaks to make it more interesting i made her sound like spongebob squarepants while i was reading it . thanks dad for showing me the way , teaching me the language , and not leaving my mother . . . * L * * RoUg3 MoD sTaTuS * 09 - 02 - 2015 , 05 : 32 PM 43 xTekno Standing Rock Items Join Date : Jan 2004 Location : Tsézhintah , AZ Posts : 21,395 Blog Entries : 15 91,361.05 1.00 Miss Bodica ! Quote : Originally Posted by Bodica I ' m going to a Powwow this Saturday , and I would like to know what you think is alright to wear . I know that I ' m not supposed to wear anything provocative like heels , a mini - skirt , a tank - top , or heavy make - up , or a T - shirt with somthing offensive / vulgar on it ; but I ' d like to know what is appropriate to wear to a Powow . Are flat casual sandals ok ? What about earrings ? Does it matter if I wear my hair up or down ? Are casual jeans , a T - shirt , & sneakers ok ; or should I go with a more dressy / casual look ? Is it ok to show my legs as long as the skirt is below my knees ? I ' d really like to hear opinions from a number of people about this . Thanks very much . , where are you ? 09 - 03 - 2015 , 12 : 07 AM 44 jack2011 Junior Dancer Join Date : Jul 2011 Posts : 183 2,367.78 0.00 I ' m going to a Powwow this Saturday , and I would like to know what you think is alright to wear . Thanks very much . 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http://forums.prohealth.com/forums/index.php?threads/base-of-skull-pain-swelling.199870/ | Forums Home Forums > Conditions > Fibromyalgia Forums Fibromyalgia Main Forum BASE OF SKULL pain , swelling ( ? ) Discussion in ' Fibromyalgia Main Forum ' started by moreinfoplease Sep 27 , 2008 moreinfoplease New Member I have been having pain in the lower back part of my head and my upper neck , the base of the skull . When I feel around the area , it feels larger on the left ( where there is more pain ) as compared the the right . Could this area be swollen ? What could cause that ? I just read about myofacial pain , but am unclear if that would include swelling . I am going to see a rheumatologist on monday for unrelated reason . Would she cover such a question ? I am so used to getting treated as though I and my vaugue / strange symptoms are crazy by drs , I am trying to get a grasp on what is going on and how to best " present " it to the dr , so to minimize such a response . So sad that we must deal with those issues , but they are realities . Thanks for any help you can give . Sep 27 , 2008 # 1 grace54 New Member This seems to be where my fibromyalgia has settled , even though I am much better the last couple of months I have been suffering with this head / neck issue . I went to a chiropractor and it was helpful but it soon came back . I have also noticed that it flares when I am suffering from allergies . There is an inflamatory response with alergic reactions so I think there is a connection there at least for me . I know what you mean by Dr ' s not understanding our issues and I have often thought that I was so unique in my pain and suffering until I came here . It is a helpless feeling that no one gets it and surely they wo n ' t be able to help me . I never did get any good answers from my local DR ' s so I continue to research . For what it ' s worth these pains come and go and move around and I just realised my neck / head pain was much [ This Message was Edited on 09 / 27 / 2008 ] grace54 # 2 vannafeelbettr That area at the base of the neck is a spot mapped out on the FM tenderpoints diagram . When FM is in a flare , the tenderpoints have a tendency to get ' bigger ' or ' hurt ' more . It ' s believed to be a build - up of lactic acid in that area . Good luck ! ! ! vannafeelbettr # 3 PatDLT My back going up the back of my head , like tendrils spreading around the base of my skull . Very painful at times , but they always seem to go away . Not sure about the swollen part . Ca n ' t tell . If you are concerned it is something else , definitely tell your doctor what you are feeling . Hope all turns out well . Pat PatDLT # 4 DeborahLynn Member I ' m not sure I ' m spelling it right . . . My aunt had CFS symptoms , and she was finally diagnosed with Chiari ' s formation , or malformation , or something . . . It has to do with the opening in the bones at the base of the skull not being wide enough for the nerves and blood flow to pass through to the brain correctly . I am not remembering clearly the information my aunt gave me , but google Chiari ' s and maybe you ' ll find it . My aunt had surgery to correct this , and it seems to have helped her a lot . It might be worth checking out . Lots of love and prayers , Debbie DeborahLynn # 5 for your responses . As always , it helps just to know that others have the same or similar symptoms . It can be so confusing with vague symptoms , and changing symptoms . It is sometimes hard to figure out which are just part of the illness , and which are a red flag signs that should be reported to a dr asap . I appreciate the feedback a lot . ( ps . I wanted to respond to each of your answers in more detail , but fatigue and brain fog are getting in the way ) # 6 Granniluvsu Well - Known Member I have had alot of what you are describing for MANY years . However , now I also found I have arthritis and swell as chronic Myofascial pain . So , i just do n ' t know which is which - but does it really matter ( - : ! ! Not really ! Don ; t know about flaring as it hurts almost all the time . Hugs . Granni Granniluvsu # 7 ladybugmandy Member i do n ' t know about FM , but i believe many if not most cases of CFS is caused by infection of the brain and spinal cord . ladybugmandy # 8 fibrobutterfly always ck with your dr . of course ! But that pain is the reason I was put on lyrica , and it helped almost immediately , although I believe I was taking too high mgs . after awhile and am decreasing . Good luck . fibrobutterfly # 9 sunflowerxo That is exactly where my fibromyalgia set in first , the lower base of the skull and the lower back . It feels bruised in the back of the skull when I tough it and I ' m getting headaches every other day . . . . sunflowerxo Sep 28 , 2008 # 10 jenn_c I am sorry I have no advice on what is wrong . However when you are preparing to go to the doctors , always write a list of : all of your meds & doses , precise descriptions of your symptoms and all questions you want to ask . I do this for every appt . for me , kids and hubby . I have found that the doctors take me a lttle more seriously , I do n ' t waist any time and I have nast brain fo . Good luck , Jenn jenn_c Sep 28 , 2008 # 11 joyousmom2 This just started for me a few days ago and feels like the onset of a migrain . I use Advil for Migraines and an ice pack directly to the area . It seems to prevent the full Migrain from setting in . I had forgotten about the jaw soreness but that ' s shown up too . I ' m sorry for your pain . I wish I had this whole group locally to share this disease with people who actually know for a fact that it exists ! joyousmom2 # 12 ( You must log in or sign up to reply here . ) Forums Home Forums Conditions Fibromyalgia Forums | [
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http://forums.prohealth.com/forums/index.php?threads/mucinex-guai-question.114811/ | Forums Home Forums > Conditions > Fibromyalgia Forums Fibromyalgia Main Forum mucinex / guai question Discussion in ' Fibromyalgia Main Forum ' started by zoemurr Jan 27 , 2005 zoemurr New Member Well , I think I am ready for the guai protocal . I know about the sals / dosage etc . but have a question about the mucinex . It only comes in 600mg right ? ( I know I can order it cheaper here , but really wanted to get started . ) Is this very different than taking 300mg 2x a day ? I thought I could split the pills but it says not to . Should I just wait and order different pills ? If I ' m a low doser will this put me in a Thanks [ This Message was Edited on 01 / 28 / 2005 ] Jan 27 , 2005 # 1 Jude New Member Dear Zoemurr Mucinex comes in 600mg pills without score lines for splitting . Even though the bottle says not to split the pills you can do so . However , they are hard to split evenly . Some people use scissors , some pill splitters and others a sharp knife . Some people use the FA Guai by ProHealth by taking one half tablet plus one fourth tablet in the morning and the same dosage in the evening . The FA is working just as well as the Mucinex . I would encourage you to read " What Your Doctor May Not jude Jude # 2 I have the book and think I have a handle on all of that . Why do you think the box says not to split them ? I ' m sure it would be hard , but I ' m willing to try if it ' s safe . # 3 jef40 Does the liquid provide the same benefit ? I certainly feel awful after I drink three or four teaspoons full . . . jef40 # 4 padre The tablets are coated to disolve slowly in the small intestine . It is long acting and lasts 12 hours giving a more stable dose . But , 300 mg four times a day is about the same . See the Mucinex site on Google . - Padre padre # 5 Mikie Moderator If Guai is the only ingredient , it may be OK , but the only liquid was a cough syrup with another active ingredeint and should not be used for this treatment . The fast acting Guai sold here in 400 mg . tablets is as effective as the Mucinex and does not contain the blue / green dye which caused problems for me . It ' s cheaper too . Love , Mikie Mikie # 6 any more opinions on splitting them ? Why does it say not to ? # 7 bump Jan 28 , 2005 # 8 Hinemoa so when you split the tablet or chew or crush it you are releasing all the tiny portions of medication which are timed to be released throughout the day . With some medications this is quite dangerous because you get a large " blast " of medication when the dosages are titrated to carry you through the day . But if mucinex has a split - line it could mean that it ' s OK to use it like a 300mg dose . After all when you take a non - timed release quaifenisen ( sp ) you get the whole 600mgs at once . Pharmacists are handy purveyors of all things medicational , however they do stick to the rules and written regulations . I suggest you ask one you can trust . Blessings , Sandra Hinemoa Jan 28 , 2005 # 9 Mucinex is currently manufactured to be used as a mucus thinner . The tablet is designed to be released over a 12 - hour - period . Splitting the tablet may allow the dosage to be absorbed more rapidly and as a result not cover a 12 - hour - period . That is why the box says do not split . With pain medications splitting a dose could allow too much into your bloodstream causing a dangerous situation . With Mucinex it is not a dangerous situation but a question of time - release . Remember , we are Jude # 10 I feel better about it now . Thanks . # 11 Moderator Which is much cheaper than the Mucinex seems to work just as well . Instead of taking it twice a day , just take it three times a day and it works as well . It does not contain that nasty blue / green dye which gave me a rash when I first started taking it . It is safe to cut the long acting Guai tablets . Love , Mikie Jan 29 , 2005 # 12 mdempsey Do people do this under a drs supervision or on their own ? mdempsey Jan 30 , 2005 # 13 QuilterB I ' ve recently found " humibid " in 400 mg tablets , which are actually easier to split than the blue Mucinex pills . . .also found them to be cheaper when I calculated the cost / mg . I ' d also agree with the point about liquid guai - since it ' s usually set up as an expectorant / cough medicine , and the amount you ' d need to take to get an appropriate amount of guiafenisen would probably make most people sick ! Good luck , QuilterB QuilterB Jan 30 , 2005 # 14 Even those docs who think they are knowledgeable regarding the Guai treatment often do n ' t know as much as they should about it . It can be done on one ' s own , but it is essential to read the book , " What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About FIBROMYALGIA , " by Dr . St . Amand . His website , Guaidoc , is a wealth of info . This is an excellent treatment , but it does require knowledge and patience . The Guai is no longer an Rx , but it can be bought in both the long acting and short acting form here . The short acting is just as good and is cheaper . # 15 ( You must log in or sign up to reply here . ) Forums Home Forums Conditions Fibromyalgia Forums | [
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http://forums.prohealth.com/forums/index.php?threads/urine-culture-how-long-does-it-take.101389/ | Forums Home Forums > Conditions > Fibromyalgia Forums Fibromyalgia Main Forum Urine Culture - how long does it take ? Discussion in ' Fibromyalgia Main Forum ' started by Margie53 May 21 , 2004 Margie53 New Member I left a urine specimen on this past Monday morning and my doctor ' s nurse still did not call me yet with the results and it ' s Friday . When I called her , ( she is a real snip ) , she said they had to run a culture and said she will call me when she gets the results . Meanwhile back at the ranch , I have had an infection , I think , for over 1 1 / 2 weeks now , and I am sick of it . They still have n ' Any lab technicians out there ? I am venting but serious at the same time . I will speak to my doctor about his nurse the next time I see him . Margie53 May 21 , 2004 # 1 Marjidoll New Member I am Margie too ! Nice to meet you ! Any time I have had or suspected a UTI they did a dip test at the doctor ' s office and knew right away . It shows infection but does not show they type . They can start you on an antibiotic right away that covers most of the common bacteria . When I have had a culture done , they usually had it back within 24 hours . I rely on cranberry supplements to keep me infection free , and they work great for me as a preventive . I would talk to my doctor about the nurse ' s behavior too , she needs to know that it ' s her job to help you , not give you a hard time . Marjidoll # 2 mommyRN A culture of anything takes 72 hours . You really do n ' t want to start an antibiotic until you know specifically that it is effective on your specific infection . I strongly discourage anyone who will listen from taking antibiotics unnecessarily . We have a serious issue in the US concerning resistant staph infections , primarily due to the bacteria getting " smarter " with exposure to antibiotics . You can treat your infection with vitamin C or cranberry capsules ( found in the vitamin / supplement section of most pharmacies ) . Take one capsule of the Good Luck mommy RN ( emphesisi on the RN ) mommyRN # 3 I want to thank each of you for empathising with me , and especially MommyRN for informing me about the length of cultures and about buying cranberry supplements and how to take them . Thank you one and all . I really do appreciate your help . I went out today and bought the cranberry supplements . Margie53 May 22 , 2004 # 4 ( You must log in or sign up to reply here . ) Forums Home Forums Conditions Fibromyalgia Forums | [
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http://forums.prohealth.com/forums/index.php?threads/what-best-strongest-muscle-relaxer-youve-used.133456/ | Forums Home Forums > Conditions > Fibromyalgia Forums Fibromyalgia Main Forum what best / strongest muscle relaxer you ' ve used ? Discussion in ' Fibromyalgia Main Forum ' started by daylilyfan Oct 21 , 2005 daylilyfan New Member With this shoulder injury , I ' ve been holding my shoulder funny now for 2 months . I went to specialist and now know it ' s tendonitis , bursitis , and a muscle that was stretched far enough to have tiny tissue tears . Dr . gave me a couple lidocain and steroid shots . My family Dr . did same thing , and it did n ' t help . BUT , this Dr . must have hit the right place , cause when lidocain kicked in , I could move my arm . He told me My neck / shoulder muscles were in such spasm last night , when it was hurting so bad , that I could feel , with the other hand , the muscles twitching under the skin . I had put on my coat to come home from work , and that set it off . I cried for an hour . Called specialist - they just said do you want pain med ? I said , no , I have them , they do n ' t help cause I ca n ' t take them and drive . ( I work second shift so ca n ' t take them till bedtime , leaving me 3 / 4 of the day without them ) Then use ice . Well , thanks . So , called family Dr - she ' s out on vacation till week after next , but I can see nurse practioner on Monday . I take flexeril at night , and 50mg of it does n ' t do anything for these spasms . I have zanaflex left from trying it for my fibro a few months ago . I took one of those a couple hours ago . I have just enough left for the weekend . Do any of you have any recommendations for a STRONG muscle relaxer I can ask for when I see the NP on Monday ? Or , any help for me with this darn muscle problem ? I ' m using TENS , heat , menthol rub . After having this for several weeks , I am about to go nuts here . Oct 21 , 2005 # 1 granny1353 New Member Robaxin 750 mg . 1 four times a day works well granny1353 # 2 browneyes259 Some good stuff there . . .lol ! After my first car accident they gave me this muscle relaxer to go w / my pain meds . Well , with the combo , I was feeling really good . . . . . . .pain free and a relaxed blob ! Granted this was before my Fibro decided to rear it ' s ugly head full force , but imagine it would still be a big help . Anyway that was a while ago , but I know that one is pretty strong . Hope you ' re able to get what you need ! Hugs , jen browneyes259 # 3 one of the medical websites and only came up with 4 muscle relaxers . . . Soma , Norflex , Robaxin and Zanaflex . There were others like Flexeril that are really triciclic ( sp ? ) anti - depressants - but since it ' s not doing the trick ( I have not been happy with it for a while for sleep either - I have taken it for years and I think I have built up tolerance ) I think I need a straight up relaxant . It ' s been about 2 - 1 / 2 hours now since I took the zanaflex , and it does feel a bit better . Wonder how to find out which one of the four above is the strongest as far as the relaxing of the muscles . I do n ' t want a buzz , and I do need to be able to drive . . . . but I could take one when I get up , then it ' s about 6 hours till I drive to work , then I am at work at least 8 hours till I drive again . I had not heard of Robaxin till now ! I wish I could soak the area in the tub , but my tub ' s not big enough / deep enough . Any other ideas to help get me though the weekend ? # 4 tandy You want Soma ! ! ! also known as carisoprodol ( sp ? ) I ' ve had many different muscle relaxers prescribed over the yrs and Soma is the very best . ( but strong ) when I first started taking it I felt very woozy and tired on it . But my body adjusted after awhile . Its heavy duty at relaxing your body ~ flexeril is pretty good but not like Soma . Good luck , . .hope your feeling a bit better soon Hugs Tandy tandy # 5 rrsbaby Works very well for me . I take 350 mg three times a day for my FM , as needed , some days I take only one . Depends on the day . . . . Try it , although it might make you a little sleepy for a while when you first take it . Good luck , rrsbaby rrsbaby # 6 I quit taking the zanaflex when we tried it for the fibro because I could n ' t sleep with it . For some reason it wound me up . I was to take 1 tab every 8 hours but 2 at night . Soma sounds like it might help me all the time , not just now . . . . As my worst problem is muscle spasm . My upper back / shoulders is so tight when I went to the physical therapy that the evaluator said she had never had anyone any tighter . Of course that ' s where my shoulder got hurt , so maybe she did n ' t know what she was talking about ! : - 0 For those of you who take Soma . . . 1 ) do you take it round the clock 2 ) do you take more at night 3 ) does it help with keeping you asleep ? I really appreciate your replies . This board has been so great for info . I just do n ' t know what I would have done without it ! # 7 jfrustrated You sound like you have real pain : Pain is a real downer and you know that as well as anyone . You have lots of strong stuff to take : how about adding something simple to your list ? Have you tried Vitamin B , a B complex along with extra B6 ? If you already do - great . If not , why not give it a try ? B6 can be REALLY good for muscle relief and release . Just be careful of overdosing . The good thing is that I do not think that it interferes jfrustrated # 8 Due to being on this board , I do take several supplements . . . My Rheumy said magnesium and Vit . B complex but did n ' t give any details . That ' s when I looked up old posts here to find out more info . I found magnesium , but now realize it ' s not the best kind , but I ' ll take it till it ' s gone . And , now I have read it interfears with meds when you take it near them . . . I ' ve been taking it first thing in the morning , because I do n ' t usually take anything for about 2 - 1 / 2 hours after I get up . Other than the magnesium , I take the rest of the vit / supp with my main meal , which I ' ve been taking these for about 6 weeks . magnesium oxide with calcium carbonate - ( 2 ) 250mg 400 Vit . E Vit . B complex These I ' ve taken for a long time acidopholis 1000 vit . C A general purpose Vit . Mineral Glucosamine / condroitin I ca n ' t take potassium very well , so I eat a lot of potassium foods like pears and nuts . I took the two zanaflex when I got home about 3 hours ago , and so far it feels better . Course I am to wired to sleep - but it feels better . Wonder why it affects me that way . . . . Maybe after a particularly long soak in the tub I ' ll feel like sleeping . # 9 so you take additional B6 not just a B complex ? What amount , if you do n ' t mind me asking ? When I go to the health food store to look at vitamens , there are so many , and so many doses . I have been just going by the amount recommended on the bottle . And , the magnesium / calcium cream . . . . ok , this is a * * dumb * * question . . . . does it go on the sore area ? If so , I could go through a lot of it ! Do you use it often ? I forgot about adding the peroxide to epsom salts . I wonder if I could soak a towel with that and make a hot pack somehow . Hmmmmm . . . . . . . # 10 Bruin63 Member I am sorry that your having all this pain , I ' ve been there , so I do know how you feel , I have had 2 Rotator Cuff surgery ' s . I have a tear in the RC from a surgery that they were doing on my neck , of all things . Anyway , they tried all the different mr , meds on me . The one that works the best is Soma , at least for me . I take 3 during the day , and one at night . Sometimes if I ' m cramping real bad , I ' ll cut one into 1 / 4 , and take one of them , I do n ' t want to increase my intake anymore by uping the dose . Just need a little extra , on the day ' s I do my chores , ( housework grr ! ) . Are you doing any Range of Motion excerise ' s ? I still use the Pulley , it helps me the best , I will never have full use of my arm , due to the damage that the Neuro - Surgeon cause me , but it dose n ' t hurt all the time , and I can use it at most level ' s , but not above chest - high . Good luck to you , are you seeing an Orthopedic Surgeon ? The one I had in Idaho was lousy , the one , I now have in So Ca . is a Gift from God , he was able to fix it , so that I could use it , instead of losing it . btw , they did n ' t see the Tear , till they were in doing the Scope surgery , it ' s torn the opposite way , from a Normal tear , ( what else when you have Fibro , huh , ? ) So do n ' t worry that the same thing will happen to you , just make sure it ' s taken care of soon , the little tears can become Big one ' s . Please keep us updated on your progress , I know , how much fun this is , Not , as the kids say . Try the SOma , if you can , but becareful driving on them too . sharonk Bruin63 # 11 gmom605 hello , , i ve been taking , , flexeril , , zanaflex , , and soma , , nothing help for me to hard on my stomach and i was getting more depress could n t sleep but my dr . send me to a pain mag . dr . and seems to feel a little better with 12 shots every 2wks , , there mucsle relaxers shots i m sleeping better , , maybe you can try that the shots for awhile see what they do to you , , but i do feel better , , my gmom605 Oct 22 , 2005 # 12 Imthespoiled1 Member By far the strongest muscle relaxer is Robaxin 750 you can drive on it as well after the 2 nd day . I have been one everything and this was the strongest and the best for being alert . bhope this helps . Imthespoiled1 Jun 7 , 2013 # 13 ( You must log in or sign up to reply here . ) Forums Home Forums Conditions Fibromyalgia Forums | [
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http://forums.redflagdeals.com/anyone-ever-ordered-amazon-com-any-duty-custom-fees-797105/ | Forums Shopping Discussion Anyone ever ordered from Amazon . com ? Any duty / custom fees ? Anyone ever ordered from Amazon . com ? Any duty / custom fees ? Last Updated : Oct 5th , 2009 3 : 21 pm Tags : amazon . com Search this thread Oct 3rd , 2009 1 : 02 am # 1 zpivat [ OP ] Newbie Jun 22 , 2009 95 posts 1 upvote Scarborough Anyone ever ordered from Amazon . com ? Any duty / custom fees ? Hi redflagdealers , I ' m planning to buy a filter for my camera lens , from Amazon . com , and it costs around US $ 150 to $ 200 . Questions : a . Do Canadians have to pay duty / custom fees when ordering stuff from Amazon . com ( not Amazon . ca ) ? If so , how much ? b . What if I order stuff from another U.S. shop ( anything other than Amazon . com ) , does it make a difference ? Or perhaps it does n ' t matter what store I order from ? c . What about ordering stuff from other countries other than USA ? Do we have to pay duty fees ? d . Under what conditions do Canadians have to pay duty fees ? Thanks ! ! Oct 3rd , 2009 1 : 16 am # 2 Hairball Deal Fanatic Jan 16 , 2004 9353 posts 509 upvotes Markham a . Possibly , at least the sales tax , possibly duties depending on item and its origin . b . If it is from outside Canada and they do not charge Canadian tax no difference . c . Same as b . d . Mail / courier items over $ 20 , gifts over $ 60 . Oct 3rd , 2009 3 : 04 am # 3 CheapScotsman Deal Fanatic Feb 26 , 2004 5655 posts 149 upvotes New Westminster When you import something the following " fees " may be applied ; a ) Duty . This is charged by the Canada Customs based on where the item was made and what the item is . Items made in NAFTA are 0 % . Many other items / countries are also 0 % . Lots of things are n ' t ( like tobacco , alcohol , etc ) . I ' ve not been charged duty on anything in a long time . The only way to be certain is to phone Canada Customs with the item type and place of manufacture and ask . b ) Taxes . This is GST and PST and is applicable to just about everything . Unless you buying something under about $ 60 , expect to pay this c ) Brokerage Fees : This is the ' fee " that the delivery company charges to process your package through Canada Customs . US Postal Service passes their stuff to Canada Post . The fee is flat $ 5 . UPS ( not air expedited ) costs heaps ( UPS Brokerage rates are here : http : / / www . ups . com / content / ca / en / shippi . . . rance . html ) . Most other couriers are similar . Caveat : Some companies have a " deal " with UPS and brokerage is not as expensive ( like newegg ) . . but you need to check first . Oct 3rd , 2009 3 : 13 am # 4 Jucius Maximus Deal Expert Aug 19 , 2005 18339 posts 3020 upvotes GTA West Ignore the other 2 responses , amazon . com has a special deal where they bring it across the border and ship from within Canada . You wo n ' t pay any more than what they say you ' ll pay on the site unless you select Priority shipping . This is a very special deal and the other 2 responses before me are correct for 99 % of other non - Canadian online stores . Please note that this special arrangement does NOT apply to the other amazon international sites . Edit : Since you are ordering a Camera lens , one of the following 2 situations will apply : 1 . You wo n ' t be able to order it because Amazon . com does not ship camera lenses to Canada . 2 . The lens is actually from a third party seller that lists through amazon . com , but not actually sold by amazon . In this case , the normal rules apply as listed by the first 2 sellers . Amazon . com actually ships very few items to Canada . Only Books , CD , DVD , etc . No electronics , software , games , etc . What if there were no hypothetical questions ? Oct 3rd , 2009 8 : 45 pm # 5 Cheap Cat Deal Guru Aug 21 , 2005 10453 posts 2004 upvotes Nowhere Actually ignore Jucius Maximus ' response , he is incorrect . Amazon now charges an Import Fee , to cover customs fees . Why do n ' t you read the info on Amazons site re : international orders ? Products coming from outside the country regardless of the store , are subject to the same customs regulations . CheapScotsman provides a good answer except for b ) which should be under $ 20 ( $ 60 if a gift ) . Oct 4th , 2009 4 : 51 am # 6 Jucius Maximus Deal Expert Aug 19 , 2005 18339 posts 3020 upvotes GTA West When did this change ? What if there were no hypothetical questions ? Oct 4th , 2009 5 : 23 am # 7 CalgaryRunner Deal Addict Jan 25 , 2008 1810 posts 504 upvotes wrote : ↑ When did this change ? Sometime during the past year . I used to order from Amazon . com without being dinged for taxes but now I get charged the Import Deposit . It covers estimated taxes , duties , and brokerage fees but I end up getting some of it refunded to me afterwards , likely because I live in Alberta where there is no PST . I am not young enough to know everything - Oscar Wilde Oct 4th , 2009 3 : 30 pm # 8 CalgaryRunner wrote : ↑ Sometime during the past year . I used to order from Amazon . com without being dinged for taxes but now I get charged the Import Deposit . It covers estimated taxes , duties , and brokerage fees but I end up getting some of it refunded to me afterwards , likely because I live in Alberta where there is no PST . Thanks for the update , I stand corrected . Oct 4th , 2009 9 : 57 pm # 9 a in yul Deal Addict May 19 , 2006 4749 posts 404 upvotes Toronto i have also order wii games ; depending on the title sometimes it is possible to have delivered to Canada . . of course import fee and delivery charge is there but on a rare occasion it is cheaper . and faster . Oct 4th , 2009 10 : 03 pm # 10 Jan 25 , 2008 1810 posts 504 upvotes When I ' m shopping on Amazon ' s .ca site , I always compare the prices against their U.S. site because sometimes it ' s a lot cheaper to order from their U.S. site , even after shipping , taxes , and foreign exchange . I am not young enough to know everything - Oscar Wilde Oct 4th , 2009 10 : 49 pm # 11 sonic May 30 , 2005 3846 posts 90 upvotes Hamilton I am trying to order this pillow from amazon & when i get to the check out it says . . . " not able to deliver in canada " > whats up with that ? http : / / www . amazon . com / Pike - Street - Micro . . . 536&sr = 8 - 1 Oct 4th , 2009 10 : 56 pm # 12 sonic I am trying to order this pillow from amazon & when i get to the check out it says . . . " not able to deliver in canada " > whats up with that ? http : / / www . amazon . com / Pike - Street - Micro . . . 536&sr = 8 - 1 While Amazon . com can usually ship books , CDs , and DVDs / Blu - rays to Canada , it ' s hit and miss ( mostly miss ) with the other stuff they sell . Oct 5th , 2009 3 : 21 pm # 13 angekfire Oct 28 , 2008 6964 posts 63 upvotes Ottawa When I ' m shopping on Amazon ' s .ca site , I always compare the prices against their U.S. site because sometimes it ' s a lot cheaper to order from their U.S. site , even after shipping , taxes , and foreign exchange . Exactly . Like on season DVDs for TV shows , it was like $ 30 cheaper , so even with the $ 13 shipping + $ 2 duties and currency conversion , it is still cheaper . Sep 25th , 2017 2 : 15 pm # 14 xLegacy Newbie Sep 25 , 2017 1 posts I have a problem too , i am from greece ( europe ) and i want to buy or order a full gaming pc setup , that will weight around 10 - 15 kilograms , will amazon pay the administration fees ( or custom duties ) and taxes ? I will pay on euros and the setup costs 1020 dollars or 851 euros : A . Plz tell me if im gonna pay N . And if i will pay , how can i skip the procesa of paying P.S my countries customs are very corrupted since 19th century and alla the money from fees are going to the cuatom employees pockets so i dont want to give them this oportunity Top Go | [
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http://forums.redflagdeals.com/cost-fix-rust-vehicle-pics-included-1551055/ | Forums New Posts Forums Automotive Cost to fix rust on vehicle pics included Cost to fix rust on vehicle pics included Last Updated Sep 12th 2014 257 pm Tags None Search this thread Sep 9th 2014 634 pm 1 ausername OP Newbie May 3 2014 59 posts 10 upvotes Toronto ON Cost to fix rust on vehicle pics included Hello there on my 15 year old vehicle which i last rust proofed at Crown 10 years ago rust has developed How much would it typically cost to fix the rust on the door side and on the wheel well area Is this a serious situation or an easy fix httpoi61tinypiccom2eyuicljpg Thanks for any help edit would it be worth it to get a new application of anti rust at Crown again edit I was not expecting all these tips and suggestions Thank you all for so much input by the way its a ford Sep 9th 2014 651 pm 2 vkizzle Deal Expert Aug 23 2011 24051 posts 10408 upvotes Ottawa 15yr old carsave your money The first one on the door can be patched up but the wheel well will need new sheet metal as it rusted from the inside Sep 9th 2014 708 pm 3 psyfer Member Feb 25 2004 347 posts 73 upvotes vkizzle wrote 15yr old carsave your money The first one on the door can be patched up but the wheel well will need new sheet metal as it rusted from the inside I would guess 200400 per panel You can try chipmaster for a quote Sep 9th 2014 709 pm 4 DJ_Peanuts22 Deal Expert Feb 27 2004 26999 posts 4287 upvotes That cant be a Mazda Sep 9th 2014 958 pm 5 Northofseven Sr Member Jul 20 2014 999 posts 192 upvotes Snow Road Station O 200 to 350 to fix the rust festers nice easy days pay Sep 9th 2014 1024 pm 6 trixstar Deal Guru Jun 12 2005 12664 posts 1492 upvotes Toronto DJ_Peanuts22 wrote That cant be a Mazda It it was there would be no more wheel well or quarter panel Sep 10th 2014 620 am 7 moneybags Sr Member Oct 7 2005 533 posts 144 upvotes trixstar wrote It it was there would be no more wheel well or quarter panel mazda owner here this checks out Sep 10th 2014 607 pm 8 TrevorK Deal Expert Aug 3 2001 15229 posts 5487 upvotes Honestly I do not think it is worth fixing by a professional unless it is some sort of collectible car That said I think you could easily touch up some of the rust in the wheel well yourself without it being too noticeable or costly because of the natural light reflectionshading The door would be more challenging to fix without it standing out Sep 10th 2014 650 pm 9 Viperoni Deal Addict Apr 1 2010 2460 posts 833 upvotes GTA It all depends on the shop you go to and the quality of work that theyll do You could pay anywhere from 150400 for the door and 200 to 700 for the fender Itd be a good thing to apply Krown again AFTER the rust repair Sep 11th 2014 132 am 10 Solsearchin1 Deal Fanatic Nov 25 2012 5232 posts 1467 upvotes Space DIY otherwise your looking at 1000 for the doorquarter and being 15 years old and silver it will be hard to blend with the older paint I would do a quick spot repair Sep 12th 2014 144 pm 11 MechanicalMan64 Deal Addict Feb 1 2003 1592 posts 65 upvotes Toronto Just simply grind and sand it down Add primer and touch up paints directly from your dealer MechanicalMan64 Sep 12th 2014 237 pm 12 vkizzle Deal Expert Aug 23 2011 24051 posts 10408 upvotes Ottawa MechanicalMan64 wrote Just simply grind and sand it down Add primer and touch up paints directly from your dealer How do you expect OP to grind down the wheel well area of the quarter panel as it is probably 14 thick at most and the rust likely penetrated all the way through in several areas Sep 12th 2014 257 pm 13 Tommy74 Deal Addict Jun 28 2009 2408 posts 1238 upvotes GTA DJ_Peanuts22 wrote That cant be a Mazda Looks more like Subaru Top Go | [
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http://forums.redflagdeals.com/costco-10-pack-17g-kirkland-seaweed-snacks-7-99-a-1349934/ | Forums Expired Offers Expired Hot Deals [ Costco ] Costco : 10 pack of 17g Kirkland Seaweed Snacks for $ 7.99 [ Costco ] Costco : 10 pack of 17g Kirkland Seaweed Snacks for $ 7.99 Last Updated : Aug 18th , 2013 10 : 27 pm Category : Groceries Tags : costco kirkland snacks seaweed nori SCORE + 3 3 0 Page 1 of 3 Next Search this thread Jun 14th , 2013 9 : 43 pm # 1 rei [ OP ] Deal Addict Aug 18 , 2001 1029 posts 127 upvotes Edmonton [ Costco ] Costco : 10 pack of 17g Kirkland Seaweed Snacks for $ 7.99 More offers from Costco Mmmm . Salty . Kirkland brand " Roasted Seasoned Seaweed Winter Harvest " 17g packs x 10 . Typically , I see the Annie Chun brand stuff ( which has spicier Wasabi flavour ) for $ 2 - 3 for a 10g pack at grocery stores . Nearby Costco locations : 100 Billy Bishop Way , Toronto , ON M3K2C8 50 Queen Elizabeth Blvd , Etobicoke , ON M8Z1M1 Jun 14th , 2013 9 : 54 pm # 2 jonny_fishead Sr . Member Dec 22 , 2007 763 posts 357 upvotes moncton What section do they sell it in ? Jun 14th , 2013 9 : 56 pm # 3 IDStorms Deal Fanatic Dec 8 , 2011 7531 posts 8517 upvotes Where ' s the deal ? A case of 24 is $ 6.99 ( photo to come ) < - - - Regular price ! OK , I see where the deal is . . . ( photo still coming ) Yours : 10x 17g ( total 170g ) Mine : 24x 5g ( total 120g ) I do n ' t recall seeing yours , but then again , I was n ' t really looking . Just noticed your says " Salted " , so I would stay away from them , the ones in my pic are low in everything . . . But very tasty ! [ IMG ] http : / / i1260 . photobucket . com / albums / ii5 . . . c32ea9 . jpg [ / IMG ] Do n ' t know if this is a special price or not , but you get the standard " Thanks " just for posting this ! Jun 14th , 2013 9 : 58 pm # 4 rei [ OP ] Deal Addict Aug 18 , 2001 1029 posts 127 upvotes Edmonton Oh daaayuum , where ' s that ? Edmonton Costco had it out at at the front of an aisle featured . Jun 14th , 2013 10 : 04 pm # 5 GROSS Aug 11 , 2006 1229 posts 481 upvotes Thunder Bay he - he talk about cultural differences . . . / seaweed and snack should n ' t be in the same sentence I live in that solitude which is painful in youth , but delicious in the years of maturity . - Al Jun 14th , 2013 10 : 13 pm # 6 MacBuster Nov 28 , 2003 1876 posts 161 upvotes GROSS wrote : ↑ he - he talk about cultural differences . . . / seaweed and snack should n ' t be in the same sentence My kids love these things . And I ' m as white as the driven snow . Jun 14th , 2013 10 : 26 pm # 7 Aug 11 , 2006 1229 posts 481 upvotes Thunder Bay MacBuster wrote : ↑ My kids love these things . And I ' m as white as the driven snow . In that case they should be giving away samples in the stores so old codgers like me could try them first . . . . / I do love anything with mango in it . . . . . .also chocolate macadamia nuts . . ( at first before I tried them I thought eww ) I live in that solitude which is painful in youth , but delicious in the years of maturity . - Al Jun 14th , 2013 11 : 10 pm # 8 craigdcan Feb 8 , 2007 1216 posts 139 upvotes Haha yes this should definitely be on demo . . .I bought a box of of them . . .I thought it was 40 packets , or maybe just seemed like 40 . They were ok . Low cal , a little salty snack for my drive home . Not offensive . Oddly , I ' m kinda craving one now . I ' m sure I can find a packet or 12 around here somewhere . Jun 15th , 2013 12 : 23 am # 9 daaave Member Jun 5 , 2008 262 posts 15 upvotes Toronto , ON IDStorms Where ' s the deal ? A case of 24 is $ 6.99 ( photo to come ) < - - - Regular price ! OK , I see where the deal is . . . ( photo still coming ) Yours : 10x 17g ( total 170g ) Mine : 24x 5g ( total 120g ) I do n ' t recall seeing yours , but then again , I was n ' t really looking . Just noticed your says " Salted " , so I would stay away from them , the ones in my pic are low in everything . . . But very tasty ! [ IMG ] http : / / i1260 . photobucket . com / albums / ii5 . . . c32ea9 . jpg [ / IMG ] Do n ' t know if this is a special price or not , but you get the standard " Thanks " just for posting this ! Have n ' t seen these in the two Costco stores I frequent since the winter . I hope they are back selling them again Jun 15th , 2013 12 : 33 am # 10 importpsycho Mar 1 , 2004 3807 posts 751 upvotes Vancouver This is korean side dish , not a snack Jun 15th , 2013 1 : 08 pm # 11 M - e - X - x Deal Fanatic Aug 18 , 2003 5408 posts 205 upvotes Mississauga I bought this in the US last time I was there in March . Same price , tastes pretty good , but slightly on the saltier side . FS : $ 15 obo TP - Link TD - 8616 ADSL2 + Modem | $ 15 obo 2.5 " HDD | Heatware HowardForums Jun 15th , 2013 2 : 20 pm # 12 ryehigh17 Sr . Member Apr 29 , 2004 646 posts 156 upvotes OP do you SKU ? Will go hunting for these in GTA . Kilds love these . Jun 15th , 2013 9 : 23 pm # 13 Would it be on the receipt ? Jun 15th , 2013 11 : 03 pm # 14 168 Member Jul 27 , 2005 374 posts 163 upvotes Would it be on the receipt ? Have n ' t seen these in my local Costco yet but US item # 653919 Jun 15th , 2013 11 : 09 pm # 15 kayden Dec 7 , 2005 421 posts 82 upvotes In BC the box is a bit larger - 36 packs perhaps ? I do n ' t remember . And the price is 9.99 . I buy a box regularly . So tasty . Page 1 of 3 Next Top Go | [
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http://forums.redflagdeals.com/does-brake-job-estimate-sound-legitimate-wifes-corolla-now-1312656/ | Forums Automotive Does This Brake Job Estimate Sound Legitimate ? ( Wife ' s Corolla now ) Does This Brake Job Estimate Sound Legitimate ? ( Wife ' s Corolla now ) Last Updated : Apr 9th , 2013 4 : 25 pm Tags : None Page 1 of 7 Next Search this thread Mar 13th , 2013 4 : 29 pm # 1 BluePhirePB [ OP ] Deal Fanatic Sep 8 , 2007 6252 posts 1771 upvotes Does This Brake Job Estimate Sound Legitimate ? ( Wife ' s Corolla now ) Before I start , YES I know if I go with an independent garage with after market parts , I can get a much lower quote . However , my question is whether or not this is within reason for a dealership job . I have a 2010 Toyota Matrix XR w / AWD . Mileage as of right now is 86,300km . After taking her in for scheduled servicing this morning , Toyota called me back saying I required a full brake job . Currently , there ' s only 3mm left on the pad and according to them , the safety limit is 2mm . This was the following quote I got from them : Front brakes = $ 404.77 + tax labor - $ 157.50 rotors = $ 162.14 shim kit ( sp ? ) = $ 14.40 pads = $ 70.73 Rear brakes = $ 508.11 + tax ( there ' s some dependency with total price vs . break down she told me over the phone ) labor - $ 210 shim kit ( sp ? ) = $ 44.92 rotors = $ 152.42 pads = $ 70.77 So total would be $ 912.88 + tax ( $ 1,031.55 ) I called an independent garage my in - laws have been using for years and according to them , they ' ll do the job for $ 835 all in with OEM parts . Toyota said they ' d negotiate the price if an independent garage gave a better quote . Is Toyota gouging me beyond what a dealership would normally charge ? EDIT : Just came back from Dettmer Tires on Eramosa in Guelph for a second opinion . The guys were quick and efficient on the check and found that my pads STILL had decent life on all corners ( front 6 / 32 " or 4.7 mm and rear 7 / 32 " or 5.6mm . . . which incidentally is the same measurements I was told I had 16,000km ago from Toyota ) . The only thing they found was the pins were semi - seized due to lack of maintenance . I figured Toyota would take care of that but Thanks RFD ! Mar 13th , 2013 4 : 39 pm # 2 macnut Deal Fanatic Oct 28 , 2008 5658 posts 1326 upvotes BC BluePhirePB wrote : ↑ Is Toyota gouging me beyond what a dealership would normally charge ? I would say Yes - unless there is a good explanation for why labour and the shims for the rear brakes cost more than the fronts . I ca n ' t see that AWD would be the reason . Total cost is more than most BMW dealers would charge for a full brake job on an AWD 3 series . Mar 13th , 2013 4 : 45 pm # 3 wilsonlam97 Deal Guru Nov 21 , 2010 14471 posts 2049 upvotes Toronto I ' m wondering if it ' s really 3mm . Mar 13th , 2013 4 : 46 pm # 4 [ OP ] Sep 8 , 2007 6252 posts 1771 upvotes * * * * * wrote : ↑ * * * * * * * * * * * . FYI I ' m in Guelph but thanks for the recommendation . Mar 13th , 2013 4 : 50 pm # 5 quanvn Deal Addict Oct 6 , 2008 1054 posts 137 upvotes Brampton That quote seems reasonable for dealership prices . Mar 13th , 2013 5 : 02 pm # 6 mucat Dec 4 , 2007 5360 posts 634 upvotes Calgary wilsonlam97 I ' m wondering if it ' s really 3mm . I am thinking the same too . Both the front and rear are at 3mm ? Mar 13th , 2013 5 : 06 pm # 7 mucat I am thinking the same too . Both the front and rear are at 3mm ? Ya all round apparently . The last time I took it in ( ~ 8000 km ago ) they said I had about half life left on my brakes . My driving habits / distances have n ' t changed at all between then and now . Mar 13th , 2013 5 : 06 pm # 8 Pete_Coach Deal Expert May 11 , 2005 32058 posts 6517 upvotes Ottawa Before I start , . . . . . . . Toyota said they ' d negotiate the price if an independent garage gave a better quote . Is Toyota gouging me beyond what a dealership would normally charge ? As you know , aftermarket prices can be lesser price but , after market price can often cost much more than OEM . Depends on the level of part you want . OEM generally has one level of part , the one approved for use on their cars . Next is labour charge . Because of higher overhead and mechanics pay costs , dealership labour charge is much more than an independent garage ( often well over $ 100 per hour nowadays ) . Warranty ' s are often better at dealers as well , but that is subjective . That all adds up to additional costs . So , tell the dealer you can get a better deal and see what they say . Life is short . . . . . .Make sure you spend as much time as possible on the internet arguing with strangers about politics . Anonymous Mar 13th , 2013 5 : 17 pm # 9 Just called Robinson and they said the quote I got from Guelph Toyota is reasonable compared to what they ' d charge . Mar 13th , 2013 5 : 19 pm # 10 poedua Deal Expert May 9 , 2005 31842 posts 1326 upvotes Is Toyota gouging me beyond what a dealership would normally charge ? Only way to find out is to call / e - mail 1 or 2 more Toyota dealerships and see how their quotes stack up compared to the quote from this particular Toyota dealership . And call 1 or 2 independents in Guelph as well - i.e no first hand knowledge , but I heard College Auto tech on Waterloo Ave is supposed to be good . Pete_Coach As you know , aftermarket prices can be lesser price but , after market price can often cost much more than OEM . Depends on the level of part you want . OEM generally has one level of part , the one approved for use on their cars . Next is labour charge . Because of higher overhead and mechanics pay costs , dealership labour charge is much more than an independent garage ( often well over $ 100 per hour nowadays ) . Warranty ' s are often better at dealers as well , but that is subjective . That all adds up to additional costs . So , tell the dealer you can get a better deal and see what they say . Good points - and I assume dealerships also used book rates for quotes / charging out time . . .which may or may not be in line with the actual time required . " The placebo effect is the most powerful supplement of all " " The pain of discipline weighs ounces , the pain of neglect weighs tons " " The best training in the world ca n ' t overcome a lousy diet " TRAIN HARD ! ! ! ! Mar 13th , 2013 5 : 24 pm # 11 I got a hold of Chan ' s Auto Centre in Brampton and he ' s quoting $ 835 all in with OEM parts . I know this guy ' s dependable as my in - laws have been using them for years now . Mar 13th , 2013 5 : 28 pm # 12 poedua May 9 , 2005 31842 posts I got a hold of Chan ' s Auto Centre in Brampton and he ' s quoting $ 835 all in with OEM parts I know this guy ' s dependable as my in - laws have been using them for years now . Well , see if Guelph Toyota or an independent shop in Guelph will match the $ 835 all in with OEM parts . . .saving you needlessly burning gas from Guelph to Brampton and back . " The placebo effect is the most powerful supplement of all " " The pain of discipline weighs ounces , the pain of neglect weighs tons " " The best training in the world ca n ' t overcome a lousy diet " TRAIN HARD ! ! ! ! Mar 13th , 2013 5 : 32 pm # 13 phez Member Aug 10 , 2006 379 posts 73 upvotes 1 . most dealers average $ 200 / wheel so no , you are not technically being gouged by this one dealer . but as others have pointed out , there are alternatives . 2 . Is this your first brake job ? If you ' ve driven all the way to 86k without any brake job prior , and still have 3mm left , you could probably go much longer on this set . All cars have a brake wear indicator system of sorts , either mechanical like a piece of metal rubbing against the rotor creating a squealing sound , or a modern electric system where your dash will tell you . tldr you dont technically need to replace brakes now , but its an eventuality . Mar 13th , 2013 5 : 37 pm # 14 phez 1 . most dealers average $ 200 / wheel so no , you are not technically being gouged by this one dealer . but as others have pointed out , there are alternatives . 2 . Is this your first brake job ? If you ' ve driven all the way to 86k without any brake job prior , and still have 3mm left , you could probably go much longer on this set . All cars have a brake wear indicator system of sorts , either mechanical like a piece of metal rubbing against the rotor creating a squealing sound , or a modern electric system where your dash will tell you . tldr you dont technically need to replace brakes now , but its an eventuality . Yes this ' ll be my first time doing my brakes . I do recall hearing a tiny audible squeak coming from the rear brakes for a while now but only braking from speeds of 80km to 60km . If I can , I ' m gonna hold off on this until after I get my tax refund lol . Mar 13th , 2013 5 : 37 pm # 15 ES_Revenge Mar 24 , 2004 23869 posts 4179 upvotes Just called Robinson and they said the quote I got from Guelph Toyota is reasonable compared to what they ' d charge . LOL are you serious ? Because you know those guys that told you to go to Robinsons were trolling right ? + 1 Page 1 of 7 Next Top | [
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http://forums.redflagdeals.com/failed-university-course-291967/ | Forums New Posts Forums Students Failed a University course Failed a University course Last Updated May 21st 2006 816 am Tags None Search this thread May 19th 2006 611 am 1 hhh OP Sr Member Nov 25 2005 777 posts 1 upvote Ontario Failed a University course Has anyone ever failed a university course specifically University of Toronto im worried that i may fail a courseshould i be worried if i do fail a course for first year or is it nothing to worry about and simply just take another course to fulfill the credit requirements i just want to graduate and get the hell outta school asapjust hoping i wont get kicked out after failing a coursesorry i may be a little paranoid but if i ever decide to continue into MBA will they not even consider me because i failed a course in 1st year Has anyone here failed a course at University of Toronto before May 19th 2006 619 am 2 Thundercloud Deal Addict Apr 19 2005 4022 posts 777 upvotes Kitchener Dont worry about it if its just one If its required in order for you to advance to 2nd year take it at summer school if not take it next year May 19th 2006 633 am 3 Steeve Urkel Deal Addict Aug 21 2005 3630 posts 4 upvotes Meh depends what program you are in I might have failed 3 courses in universitysome 1st 2nd and 3rd year Probably because I umdidnt always stay awake in class or do all the work Overall it hasnt made much difference in my graduating exept having to take more courses You can usually make up your classes at another school and transfer the credits over I decided I had enough of my silly university and took classes through Athabasca U instead its correspondence so you do your work from home you can actually take the classes you want without worrying they will be full my university was so lame it would not let me take courses I needed for my program because students in honours had priorityeven though the class was never full stupid rules anyway failing a few courses wont impact on your job too much most employers do not ask for your grades unless you are Masters or something higher up This user has no signature May 19th 2006 638 am 4 rocafellarec Banned Dec 21 2005 764 posts 1 upvote i failed one class in first year and im retaking now after 2nd year in summer school May 19th 2006 646 am 5 Ojam Deal Guru Oct 15 2003 14187 posts 1038 upvotes Doesnt matter I failed the first uni course I ever took class had a high fail rate and Im graduating tomorrow Science is the new rock n roll May 19th 2006 650 am 6 dre145 Deal Addict Sep 1 2003 3046 posts 74 upvotes I know if ur marks are under the requiered level you go on academic probation and if you go under again the next year you get kicked out in UofT that is May 19th 2006 651 am 7 Avant_Garde Member Oct 21 2005 211 posts You know what sucks probably just as bad as falling failing 1 short of the requirement to get into the 2nd year program May 19th 2006 700 am 8 EH100501AC Deal Fanatic Dec 27 2005 5022 posts 6 upvotes Markham I got an E in one of my courses What a waste of time money and gaslol BTW an E is marginally below 50 May 19th 2006 827 am 9 evman150 Sr Member Jun 7 2005 525 posts Victoria BC I failed the most failed course at my school second year multivariable calculus It was a tough course compounded by my professor who was from the tiny African nation of Benin with this wacky African French accent just impossible to understand I took it the next semester and got a B so its all good The worst part about failing the course is that it looks like on your transcript But if its first or second year I dont think it matters too much for grad school The other part that hurts is the fact you just wasted a boatload of your time effort and 450 bucks May 19th 2006 1218 pm 10 rdtx2002 Deal Fanatic Nov 13 2003 7793 posts 38 upvotes i believe you need at least a B average in order to even be considered for an MBA May 19th 2006 1239 pm 11 ji2o0k Deal Expert Oct 29 2004 20096 posts 1764 upvotes Toronto dont worry so much you can take the course again The only problem with failing a course at UofT ie you get an F is that your GPA will take a nosedive The reason is because your course mark will be zero and calculating the GPA with one course 0 divided by total courses will hurt But it isnt the end of the world Take it again or take another course and work hard to get better marks About the MBA depending on what school you go to some bschools look only at the last two years of your undergraduate years So just make sure your last two years have solid marks FS Laptop 25 HDD 500GB DDR3 ram more FS Iphone 6S OEM LCD Heatware 6300 May 19th 2006 326 pm 12 rdtx2002 Deal Fanatic Nov 13 2003 7793 posts 38 upvotes ji2o0k wrote dont worry so much you can take the course again The only problem with failing a course at UofT ie you get an F is that your GPA will take a nosedive The reason is because your course mark will be zero and calculating the GPA with one course 0 divided by total courses will hurt But it isnt the end of the world Take it again or take another course and work hard to get better marks About the MBA depending on what school you go to some bschools look only at the last two years of your undergraduate years So just make sure your last two years have solid marks but since the OP is just keen on getting out of school i dont think hell even get close to the B marks required he might as well just goto college and get a diploma May 19th 2006 328 pm 13 hhh OP Sr Member Nov 25 2005 777 posts 1 upvote Ontario ji2o0k wrote dont worry so much you can take the course again The only problem with failing a course at UofT ie you get an F is that your GPA will take a nosedive The reason is because your course mark will be zero and calculating the GPA with one course 0 divided by total courses will hurt But it isnt the end of the world Take it again or take another course and work hard to get better marks About the MBA depending on what school you go to some bschools look only at the last two years of your undergraduate years So just make sure your last two years have solid marks If i failed a course with an F is there anyone to replace that mark so its not counted towards my GPA cuz like you saidit sounds like its gona hurtbadlyF 0 S May 19th 2006 329 pm 14 hhh OP Sr Member Nov 25 2005 777 posts 1 upvote Ontario rdtx2002 wrote but since the OP is just keen on getting out of school i dont think hell even get close to the B marks required he might as well just goto college and get a diploma oh i didnt mention thisbut its only ONE course that im doing poorly onthe rest is fineeverything else is in the B range May 19th 2006 339 pm 15 xtremedrunk Member Aug 11 2004 210 posts 3 upvotes Edm hhh wrote If i failed a course with an F is there anyone to replace that mark so its not counted towards my GPA cuz like you saidit sounds like its gona hurtbadlyF 0 S I dont think so unless you go to your professor and see if there is any way that 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http://forums.redflagdeals.com/free-knife-survey-required-1825035/ | Forums New Posts Free Knife Survey Required Last Updated Jan 29th 2016 1153 am Category Small Business Services Tags None SCORE 13 13 0 Page 1 of 3 Search this thread Oct 5th 2015 313 am 1 thr333zy OP Deal Addict Nov 22 2012 1095 posts 327 upvotes Narkham Free Knife Survey Required Deal Link httpwwwguardaircorpcomsurvey If you use Guardair products at work or even if you dont complete a survey for a free knife You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post Oct 5th 2015 337 am 2 redkulat Deal Addict Feb 2 2009 2645 posts 1325 upvotes Toronto Thanks Now I can cut my vegetables Oct 5th 2015 337 am 3 ManCaveGamer Deal Fanatic Jun 19 2012 7723 posts 2990 upvotes East York redkulat wrote Thanks Now I can cut my vegetables yay Oct 5th 2015 355 am 4 NeedleMouse Newbie Nov 21 2015 52 posts Toronto For some odd reason I was expecting csgo skins Oct 5th 2015 424 am 5 ktan09 Deal Fanatic Mar 26 2005 8215 posts 405 upvotes Toronto thanks My eBay feedback 4000 My Heatware 1500 Oct 5th 2015 441 am 6 RyanD163 Sr Member Nov 10 2013 624 posts 692 upvotes Barrie Thanks op I think I might actually use these products at my job Any idea what type of knife to expect Probably just a standard box cutter Oct 5th 2015 503 am 7 501 Deal Fanatic Jul 31 2006 6424 posts 471 upvotes Toronto Thanks is it free Oct 5th 2015 244 pm 8 nellium Deal Addict Feb 17 2009 3263 posts 1223 upvotes Ajax Hopefully they dont take my recommendations seriously when it comes to developing a new product needs more heavy industry hello kitty I dont fail I succeed at finding what doesnt work 2 Oct 5th 2015 251 pm 9 wearysky Deal Expert Nov 29 2013 15261 posts 5672 upvotes Oakville Ill take one Dont even care what it is Also hilariously my works firewall blocks the Allpax homepage How random Oct 5th 2015 502 pm 10 myversa Deal Expert Jun 12 2007 15768 posts 1682 upvotes Maple Ridge Done Hope it comes Prize Won 20152016 Nothing bigSmall 2014 Huawei Mini Wireless Bluetooth Speaker httpmycutetaffycom Oct 5th 2015 507 pm 11 Darkman Deal Fanatic May 8 2007 5176 posts 1366 upvotes Wonder if theyll knife us or not Oct 5th 2015 808 pm 12 redflagger5 Member Jan 4 2013 204 posts 96 upvotes Edmonton I hope they dont read the comments Oct 6th 2015 204 pm 13 redkulat Deal Addict Feb 2 2009 2645 posts 1325 upvotes Toronto NeedleMouse wrote For some odd reason I was expecting csgo skins Built in StatTrak Oct 6th 2015 1021 pm 14 Timberwulf Newbie Aug 20 2015 5 posts 4 upvotes Regina SK What do you guys do for Company names Use a local business or make one up Oct 6th 2015 1022 pm 15 Bleachway Sr Member Aug 24 2013 947 posts 237 upvotes Scarborough Thanks OP Lets see if this goes through Page 1 of 3 Top Go | [
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http://forums.redflagdeals.com/how-far-can-you-go-into-your-ears-when-cleaning-without-going-deaf-682922/ | Forums Forums Off Topic Off Topic Archive how far can you go into your ears when cleaning without going deaf Locked how far can you go into your ears when cleaning without going deaf Last Updated Jan 6th 2009 552 pm Tags None Page 1 of 3 Search this thread Jan 5th 2009 343 am 1 Unicron OP Banned Nov 10 2003 1116 posts 4 upvotes Prince George BC C how far can you go into your ears when cleaning without going deaf before seeing my doctor im using google and asking here basically my left ear i think its water or dry skin or maybe a ruptured eardrum Thats what google said XBOX 360 towel trick XBOX 360 genius XBOX 360 leet TREY 4 LIFE Jan 5th 2009 349 am 2 Jucius Maximus Deal Expert Aug 19 2005 18060 posts 2719 upvotes GTA West Wait were you poking into your ear with something You may have ruptured your eardrum Though I had the same thing one time and it was just big ear wax buildup Either way go to the doctor Tuition to the School of Life is not tax deductible Jan 5th 2009 350 am 3 princessJ Jr Member Nov 11 2008 115 posts 1 upvote Canada lol when i first opened this thread i thought he was gonna ask us to try it out p Jan 5th 2009 351 am 4 jason9945 Deal Fanatic Feb 4 2006 6219 posts 198 upvotes If your lucky you can go all the way through to the other ear Take it easy just get an ear cleaning kit from the drug store tomorrow and see if that helps AnotherCanuck wrote Dec 1st 2012 712 pm Well there you have it folks jason9945 is literally worse than Hitler Jan 5th 2009 354 am 5 CSAgent Deal Guru Dec 5 2004 10943 posts 419 upvotes MarkhamMississauga If it hurts youve gone too far Although if left uncleaned for quite some time wax gets stuck to your inner ear and you have to scrape it to get it off and that can be quite excruciating I know Ive done it before But it does not compared to the pain of going to the hospital have them fill a plastic syringe with water stick it allll the way inside your ear thats the painful part and then blast the water out Ive had that too it hurts a lot and I actually cried IF you go to a specialist hell spray your ear with some foam that loosens up the wax material and hell stick a thin metal hose not too deep that you dont feel it into your ear and voila it all comes loose Specialist wait time wno pain and no effort average 6 months Hospital wait time wexcruciating pain average 1 hour Home remedy wnot sure what the hell youre poking at average 1015 minutes Jan 5th 2009 407 am 6 Blimpy Newbie Jun 15 2007 17 posts Toronto Have you had a really nasty cold recently Sometimes when you get sick there is a buildup of water in the ear so you cant hear There is nothing really you can do about it except for waiting Sometimes it can take over 3 weeks to clear up Jan 5th 2009 407 am 7 blahblohblah Banned Jul 30 2007 885 posts 1 upvote Scarborough I like cleaning my ears out with QTips I like to stick that baby in deep I seem to have this spot deep in my ears some sort of GSpot that feels very very good when I touch it and twist the qtip Jan 5th 2009 410 am 8 Shaner Moderator Jul 6 2004 23335 posts 2890 upvotes blahblohblah wrote I like cleaning my ears out with QTips I like to stick that baby in deep I seem to have this spot deep in my ears some sort of GSpot that feels very very good when I touch it and twist the qtip Most doctors recommend not using Qtips to clean your ears as you can rupture your ear drum They recommend using your pinky finger instead and nothing smaller People have died in the past from an infection due to a ruptured ear drum Search cbcca there was a news article on this only a few months ago Jan 5th 2009 430 am 9 mingyang Deal Addict Mar 15 2006 4203 posts 361 upvotes i had 2 surgeries before on my left ear trust me you dont want to fk with your ear Jan 5th 2009 432 am 10 edgedamage Deal Addict Jan 29 2005 3867 posts 184 upvotes Toronto Shaner wrote Most doctors recommend not using Qtips to clean your ears as you can rupture your ear drum They recommend using your pinky finger instead and nothing smaller People have died in the past from an infection due to a ruptured ear drum Search cbcca there was a news article on this only a few months ago I have this a few times That old clich You say get high I say hello Jan 5th 2009 451 am 11 blahblohblah Banned Jul 30 2007 885 posts 1 upvote Scarborough Dont care it feels good Jan 5th 2009 453 am 12 molala Deal Fanatic Oct 18 2006 5309 posts 275 upvotes 905 If you want to be safe you could ask your doctor to clean out the wax for you Jan 5th 2009 505 am 13 Setz Deal Expert Mar 29 2007 15633 posts 572 upvotes I once was cleaning my ears with a Qtip the PROPER WAY and my dog startled me and I poked right inside Was deaf in that ear for a couple of days before the doctor said I had a cerumen impaction Jan 5th 2009 545 am 14 Dash Deal Fanatic Feb 24 2004 9756 posts 164 upvotes Toronto rule of thumb when you feel pressure stop Setz wrote I once was cleaning my ears with a Qtip the PROPER WAY and my dog startled me and I poked right inside Was deaf in that ear for a couple of days before the doctor said I had a cerumen impaction damn that would scare the hell out of me Ask me a question about ANYTHING here httpwwwredflagdealscomforumsshow pt692100 Jan 5th 2009 1143 am 15 mrG Deal Addict May 11 2006 1718 posts 4 upvotes I saw an article on how ear wax serves a purpose to clean your ears It slowly brings any dirt or whatever to the outside of your ear so youll never have to manually go in there and clean them yourself So I wouldnt even bother digging around in there If you find you have buildup you can reach with your pinky then Im sure thats fine but any wax is deeper than that is probably better left alone and might be doing you some good A W E S O M E N E S S When I get sad I stop being sad and be awesome instead True story Page 1 of 3 Go | [
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http://forums.redflagdeals.com/power-steering-flush-really-necessary-886061/ | Forums Automotive Is a Power Steering Flush really necessary ? Is a Power Steering Flush really necessary ? Last Updated : May 5th , 2010 5 : 04 pm Tags : None Page 1 of 2 Next Search this thread May 3rd , 2010 6 : 14 pm # 1 sixcardkitty [ OP ] Newbie Apr 14 , 2010 15 posts Waterloo Is a Power Steering Flush really necessary ? Took my car ( 2005 Pontiac Sunfire ) to the dealership for an oil change . They told me that my car needs a power steering fluid flush . The car has about 90,000km on it and I ' ve never had this done . I ' ve read online that you should never need to flush it unless you ' ve contaminated it with another fluid . Is this correct ? Is it really necessary or am I just being scammed in to paying for an unneeded service ? May 3rd , 2010 6 : 24 pm # 2 TenzoR Deal Fanatic Oct 27 , 2003 7031 posts 80 upvotes Nepean sixcardkitty wrote : ↑ Took my car ( 2005 Pontiac Sunfire ) to the dealership for an oil change . They told me that my car needs a power steering fluid flush . The car has about 90,000km on it and I ' ve never had this done . I ' ve read online that you should never need to flush it unless you ' ve contaminated it with another fluid . Is this correct ? Is it really necessary or am I just being scammed in to paying for an unneeded service ? The PS system are closed off but it ' s a good idea to look at the fluid and see there ' s any contaminates that might be picked up else where . The easiest way to do it yourself ( though not the most thorough way ) is to use a good quality turkey baster and suck the old PS fluid out from the PS fluid reservoir and put new fluid in . Start your car and turn the wheels side to side and circulate the fluids a bit . Suck the PS fluid out again ( it should be closer to the new fluid colour ) and add more PS fluid . Keep doing it until the colour is close to the new fluid colour . I ca n ' t May 3rd , 2010 6 : 48 pm # 3 Slashz28 Member Jun 5 , 2008 456 posts 4 upvotes wrote : ↑ Is it really necessary or am I just being scammed in to paying for an unneeded service ? IMO , it is unnessecesary , unless there is something wrong with it or you had some kind of catastrophic failure or something . May 3rd , 2010 6 : 57 pm # 4 tmkf_patryk Deal Addict Dec 29 , 2007 2905 posts 684 upvotes Edmonton if there are particulates , grime , chunks and just very dirty , i do suggest getting it flushed . I am not quite sure how it would get dirty / chunks / etc as I do open it to check once or twice a year and always clean May 3rd , 2010 7 : 13 pm # 5 Pete_Coach Deal Expert May 11 , 2005 31905 posts 6414 upvotes Ottawa In a word , no . There has been this trend to suggest you flush all vital fluids , brakes , transmission , power steering etc by shops and dealerships , while manufacturers are espousing lifetime fluids . Contradictory in my opinion . Unless it is recommended as a maintenance requirement in your owners manual , leave it alone . May 3rd , 2010 7 : 30 pm # 6 comicbookguy Deal Addict Nov 17 , 2006 1732 posts 72 upvotes Pete_Coach In a word , no . There has been this trend to suggest you flush all vital fluids , brakes , transmission , power steering etc by shops and dealerships , while manufacturers are espousing lifetime fluids . Contradictory in my opinion . Unless it is recommended as a maintenance requirement in your owners manual , leave it alone . the brake fluid for VWs is to be replaced every two years . this is in the manual and confirmed by my VW mechanic ( non - dealer ) . apparently the brake fluid gets contaminated with moisture because of temperature changes or something . May 3rd , 2010 7 : 41 pm # 7 Deal Expert May 11 , 2005 31905 posts 6414 upvotes Ottawa comicbookguy the brake fluid for VWs is to be replaced every two years . this is in the manual and confirmed by my VW mechanic ( non - dealer ) . apparently the brake fluid gets contaminated with moisture because of temperature changes or something . As always . . . . .If it is in the owners manual then do it . Actually , with the newer brake fluids , they are not as impervious to moisture ingress as before and should last longer , if not indefinitely but , that will be in the future . May 3rd , 2010 7 : 43 pm # 8 maniacshopper Deal Fanatic Mar 6 , 2006 5922 posts 154 upvotes Murica the brake fluid for VWs is to be replaced every two years . this is in the manual and confirmed by my VW mechanic ( non - dealer ) . apparently the brake fluid gets contaminated with moisture because of temperature changes or something . for brake fluid , every car should have it flushed every 2 years as it ' s hydrogrosic , it sucks moisture . keeping it in the brake lines too long will rust out your brake lines . May 4th , 2010 3 : 57 pm # 9 TrevorK Aug 3 , 2001 15395 posts 5661 upvotes I ' m not sure if the power steering fluid itself degrades over times , however I do know that there may be parts inside your power steering system that do ( O - rings for example ) . If these parts degrade the fluid becomes dirty . This dirty fluid risks clogging up / hampering the efficiency of the power steering system . Now , whether a modern power steering system has parts inside that degrade ( or rust ) I do n ' t know . However , this is most likely the concept behind getting your power steering flushed , and why with much older vehicles it was something to definitely consider . May 4th , 2010 6 : 36 pm # 10 _AUC2MIC Newbie Jul 24 , 2009 83 posts 1 upvote GTA I would change it every 2 - 3 years regardless of what the owner ' s manual says In the age of ' free maintenance ' , you really ca n ' t trust the owner ' s manual these days with their invention of " lifetime fluids " . . . NO FLUID is lifetime May 4th , 2010 10 : 22 pm # 11 _AUC2MIC I would change it every 2 - 3 years regardless of what the owner ' s manual says In the age of ' free maintenance ' , you really ca n ' t trust the owner ' s manual these days with their invention of " lifetime fluids " . . . NO FLUID is lifetime Why ? Engineering results ? Engineering analysis ? An educated guess ? Empirical evidence ? Rectal pluck ? It is nice to say these things and follow whatever path you personally choose but , if advising people , you really need to have some facts and back yourself up with evidence . May 4th , 2010 11 : 01 pm # 12 Jul 24 , 2009 83 posts 1 upvote GTA Why ? Engineering results ? Engineering analysis ? An educated guess ? Empirical evidence ? Rectal pluck ? It is nice to say these things and follow whatever path you personally choose but , if advising people , you really need to have some facts and back yourself up with evidence . I have the most experience with BMW ' s so I ' ll use them as an example . . .every since they introduced ' free maintenance " , many regular maintenance intervals were either pushed back or eliminated completely even though they are using the exam same fluids / parts ( ie . same part numbers ) Before the free maintenance program , these were the recommendations from BMW : automatic transmission fluid ( ATF ) and filter changes every 15,000 miles , manual gearbox and differential oil changes every 30,000 miles , annual brake fluid changes , and coolant changes every two years . Spark plugs , air filter , and fuel filters were typically replaced every 30,000 miles on most BMWs ( this is a tune - up ) except M cars up to 1995 , which got new spark plugs and a valve adjustment every 15,000 . Magically , when BMW started offering free maintenance , the 1,200 - mile break - in service was done away with except for M cars . Engine oil suddenly lasts 15,000 miles ( dealers are supposed to use BMW synthetic oil ) . Manual gearbox and differential oil ? No worries there – now BMW says they NEVER need to be changed , it ’ s “ lifetime fill . ” ( anyone here who has changed their own fluids should know there is NO such thing as a lifetime fluid ) Brake fluid and coolant service intervals were doubled May 4th , 2010 11 : 18 pm # 13 bunga Aug 7 , 2005 1683 posts 106 upvotes Engineering and marketing sometimes disagree with each other . These days every manufacturer is fighting the other to offer the car that requires the least amount of maintenance so they can market it on the showroom floor . Further the Germans are including the maintenance for the first three years or whatever into the cost of some of their cars , the less maintenance " needed " , the nicer their bottom line . Short term , obviously the car will be fine , long term is a question mark however . I ' ve seen some of GM ' Honda for instance , made the mistake of moving their cars to 96k km from 48k km for the first transmission fluid change a while back . End result was a lot of transmission failures , the transmissions were weak to begin with , but the extra fluid interval definitely did not help matters . They have since moved back down to ~ 60 - 70k km on their current maintenance minder cars . Same thing for Honda motors when they moved from 6k km oil change interval to 8k km , nothing catastrophic but things like oil burning and So yes , definitely follow the owner ' s manual on the upper limit , but also keep in mind reasonable mileage limitations Why ? Engineering results ? Engineering analysis ? An educated guess ? Empirical evidence ? Rectal pluck ? May 5th , 2010 12 : 39 am # 14 bunga Engineering and marketing sometimes disagree with each other . These days every manufacturer is fighting the other to offer the car that requires the least amount of maintenance so they can market it on the showroom floor . Further the Germans are including the maintenance for the first three years or whatever into the cost of some of their cars , the less maintenance " needed " , the nicer their bottom line . Short term , obviously the car will be fine , long term is a question mark however . I ' ve seen some of GM ' Honda for instance , made the mistake of moving their cars to 96k km from 48k km for the first transmission fluid change a while back . End result was a lot of transmission failures , the transmissions were weak to begin with , but the extra fluid interval definitely did not help matters . They have since moved back down to ~ 60 - 70k km on their current maintenance minder cars . Same thing for Honda motors when they moved from 6k km oil change interval to 8k km , nothing catastrophic but things like oil burning and So yes , definitely follow the owner ' s manual on the upper limit , but also keep in mind reasonable mileage limitations Yup , with their new service intervals , these cars are guaranteed to last at least until the warranty is up . . . 5 - 10 years after that , who knows I definitely would never wait 15 - 20,000 km for an oil change , synthetic or not , regardless of what the ' manual ' says May 5th , 2010 1 : 31 am # 15 JohnB Sep 6 , 2002 6630 posts 960 upvotes I have the most experience with BMW ' s so I ' ll use them as an example . . .every since they introduced ' free maintenance " , many regular maintenance intervals were either pushed back or eliminated completely even though they are using the exam same fluids / parts ( ie . same part numbers ) Before the free maintenance program , these were the recommendations from BMW : automatic transmission fluid ( ATF ) and filter changes every 15,000 miles , manual gearbox and differential oil changes every 30,000 miles , annual brake fluid changes , and coolant changes every two years . Spark plugs , air filter , and fuel filters were typically replaced every 30,000 miles on most BMWs ( this is a tune - up ) except M cars up to 1995 , which got new spark plugs and a valve adjustment every 15,000 . Magically , when BMW started offering free maintenance , the 1,200 - mile break - in service was done away with except for M cars . Engine oil suddenly lasts 15,000 miles ( dealers are supposed to use BMW synthetic oil ) . Manual gearbox and differential oil ? No worries there – now BMW says they NEVER need to be changed , it ’ s “ lifetime fill . ” ( anyone here who has changed their own fluids should know there is NO such thing as a lifetime fluid ) Brake fluid and coolant service intervals were doubled Yes this is a good post I agree . Is it 100 % necessary to change it ? No . But some people like to do preventative work , or change stuff before the period , like the owner of the Lexus with 290,000km someone bought on this forum . Page 1 of 2 Next Top | [
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http://forums.redflagdeals.com/state-farm-wont-give-letter-experince-claim-1027267/ | Forums Automotive State Farm wo n ' t give letter of experince / claim State Farm wo n ' t give letter of experince / claim Last Updated : Oct 2nd , 2013 4 : 36 pm Tags : insurance oppression power to the people SCORE + 1 1 0 Page 1 of 3 Next Search this thread Apr 13th , 2011 8 : 13 pm # 1 ToCardinal [ OP ] Sr . Member May 4 , 2009 648 posts 700 upvotes State Farm wo n ' t give letter of experince / claim Hi all , Just found out that my insurance will go up by $ 400 a year without any claim since last renewal , so i shopped around and found one company that ' s $ 1000 cheaper annually . The guy from the new company asked me to get a letter of experience from state farm cause there was a claim in 2003 that did n ' t specified if it was my fault even though some drunk hit someone ' s car which caused him to hit my parked car . police was called and he was charged . State farm refused to provide me with the letter of experience to clear up this claim . They told me to tell the new company to call them up and they ' ll tell him of what happened Called insurance bureau of Canada and they told me that state farm seems to be the only one that wo n ' t give out letter of claim / experience and they ca n ' t do anything about it . . . .gave me a 1 - 888 number to call to clear it up . . . .but i have to pay for it . Anyone else has this experience would like to share ? thanks Apr 13th , 2011 10 : 57 pm # 2 COSMIC5 Deal Fanatic Aug 12 , 2008 8087 posts 978 upvotes Ontario wow , thats not good service . .I think they are also not on autoplus . . . too bad . . . I would try your agent again and ask for a letter . . . ToCardinal wrote : ↑ Hi all , Just found out that my insurance will go up by $ 400 a year without any claim since last renewal , so i shopped around and found one company that ' s $ 1000 cheaper annually . The guy from the new company asked me to get a letter of experience from state farm cause there was a claim in 2003 that did n ' t specified if it was my fault even though some drunk hit someone ' s car which caused him to hit my parked car . police was called and he was charged . State farm refused to provide me with the letter of experience to clear up this claim . They told me to tell the new company to call them up and they ' ll tell him of what happened Called insurance bureau of Canada and they told me that state farm seems to be the only one that wo n ' t give out letter of claim / experience and they ca n ' t do anything about it . . . .gave me a 1 - 888 number to call to clear it up . . . .but i have to pay for it . Anyone else has this experience would like to share ? thanks RIBO LICENCED INSURANCE BROKER , over 30 years experience Apr 14th , 2011 2 : 39 am # 3 [ OP ] Sr . Member May 4 , 2009 648 posts 700 upvotes Tell me about it , and i ' ve been with them for almost ten years and this is how they treat you when they know you ' ll be going to another insurance company . They told me that they wo n ' t provide an official letter , but if the other insurance agent was to call them , they ' ll explain the details to him . . . .yeah right , like that ' s going to help clear my status . Even if i have to pay more in the future , i ' ll never give them business again . Apr 14th , 2011 4 : 32 am # 4 man_alone May 24 , 2007 547 posts 15 upvotes Wasteland COSMIC5 wrote : ↑ wow , thats not good service . .I think they are also not on autoplus . . . too bad . . . I would try your agent again and ask for a letter . . . My parents are with State Farm at the moment , looking to switch to a different company . My dad just received requested Autoplus report two days ago . So I guess State Farm is on Autoplus . Apr 14th , 2011 10 : 58 am # 5 longitude Deal Guru Sep 11 , 2009 10900 posts 399 upvotes GT&A Such stories disgust me and confirm how insurance companies are unfair and have a free hand in Ontario . We must fight this . troll : someone you dislike , fear or do not comprehend . . . 11b guide When the doorbell rings , it ' s just a request . You are not a dog , it is not a command , only a request . You are not in church , you are at home . No guilt . + 2 Apr 14th , 2011 1 : 06 pm # 6 tsatsa Deal Addict Aug 1 , 2007 1965 posts 124 upvotes I was with State Farm , they sucks . Apr 14th , 2011 3 : 09 pm # 7 Deal Fanatic Aug 12 , 2008 8087 posts 978 upvotes Ontario a phone call wo n ' t suffice unfortunately , insurance companies need an official document from the insurance company which shows their company letterhead etc . . Tell me about it , and i ' ve been with them for alost ten years and this is how they treat you when they know you ' ll be going to another insurance company . They told me that they wo n ' t provide an official letter , but if the other insurance agent was to call them , they ' ll explain the details to him . . . .yeah right , like that ' s going to help clear my status . Even if i have to pay more in the future , i ' ll never give them business again . RIBO LICENCED INSURANCE BROKER , over 30 years experience Apr 14th , 2011 3 : 13 pm # 8 insurance companies can get an autoplus same day whereas you can request your own at this link : http : / / portal . cgi - ibs . com / en - CA / iis / Pag . . . eport . aspx man_alone My parents are with State Farm at the moment , looking to switch to a different company . My dad just received requested Autoplus report two days ago . So I guess State Farm is on Autoplus . Apr 14th , 2011 4 : 05 pm # 9 Thanks Cosmics . That ' s what the new agent said , he needs something in writing not over the phone . Talked to the state farm manager and he said that they do n ' t provide letter of experience . Also said that the info he has indicates that my car was hit while it was parked . . . .thus means it was n ' t my fault and the new insurance company should take that as it is . i was speechless . the new agent said that the autoplus report indicated that the status of the claim is unknown . what a joke . . .left a message for the state farm ombudsman . wait and see if anything comes out of it , not very positive though . . . . Apr 14th , 2011 4 : 10 pm # 10 nice service . . . Thanks Cosmics . That ' s what the new agent said , he needs something in writing not over the phone . Talked to the state farm manager and he said that they do n ' t provide letter of experience . Also said that the info he has indicates that my car was hit while it was parked . . . .thus means it was n ' t my fault and the new insurance company should take that as it is . i was speechless . the new agent said that the autoplus report indicated that the status of the claim is unknown . what a joke . . .left a message for the state farm ombudsman . wait and see if anything comes out of it , not very positive though . . . . Apr 14th , 2011 4 : 36 pm # 11 Xeros Deal Addict Jun 3 , 2009 2087 posts 93 upvotes Toronto Autoplus is a joke . They have a collision of mine entered twice on two separate days a week apart . The collision was a total loss , so I do n ' t know how they can count it twice , but it was a pain trying to explain it to insurance companies as I shopped around . Thankfully it ' s dropped off my record now . Apr 14th , 2011 6 : 25 pm # 12 its not autoplus , its the company that put the information there . . . Xeros Autoplus is a joke . They have a collision of mine entered twice on two separate days a week apart . The collision was a total loss , so I do n ' t know how they can count it twice , but it was a pain trying to explain it to insurance companies as I shopped around . Thankfully it ' s dropped off my record now . Aug 15th , 2011 8 : 47 pm # 13 EP32k2 Deal Guru Jan 16 , 2006 11164 posts 6657 upvotes Richmond Hill Any update to this OP ? My wife is running into the same issue with Statefarm . She has 3 not at fault accident claims and on the system 2 out of the 3 are either showing at fault or 50 / 50 . This is crazy . . . .they just tell her to refer to auto+ which is what is reporting as at faults ! Fuuuuu Statefarm Insurance . + 1 Aug 15th , 2011 11 : 36 pm # 14 NEMESIS_2008 Mar 24 , 2008 3849 posts 328 upvotes Toronto Why arw they asking information about an accident that happenex more then 6 years ago ? Are you trying to get a policy from Axa ? Aug 16th , 2011 5 : 20 pm # 15 ES_Revenge Deal Expert Mar 24 , 2004 24013 posts 4291 upvotes EP32k2 Any update to this OP ? My wife is running into the same issue with Statefarm . She has 3 not at fault accident claims and on the system 2 out of the 3 are either showing at fault or 50 / 50 . This is crazy . . . .they just tell her to refer to auto+ which is what is reporting as at faults ! Fuuuuu Statefarm Insurance . Same problem w / State Farm . First of all they were charging ludicrous dollars for years before I wised up . Then an accident I had 10 years ago ( well like 11 years now ) was reported incorrectly . First problem was the local SF agency did n ' t keep records for more than 8 years themselves , so they had no idea . I had to jump through a lot of hoops calling a lot of different people , but finally got it corrected . I never really got anyone at SF refusing per se , Page 1 of 3 Next Top Go | [
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http://forums.redflagdeals.com/virgin-mobile-phones-rogers-network-697068/ | Forums More Forums Computers & Electronics Cell Phones Virgin mobile phones on rogers network ? Virgin mobile phones on rogers network ? Last Updated : Mar 9th , 2010 3 : 01 pm Tags : None Search this thread Feb 5th , 2009 5 : 45 pm # 1 wfeddern [ OP ] Member Jun 10 , 2003 355 posts 4 upvotes Virgin mobile phones on rogers network ? Just wondering if virgin mobile phones can be unlocked and used with a rogers SIM card , or if they are like telus / bell and do not use SIM cards . 8 replies Feb 5th , 2009 6 : 56 pm # 2 Gee Deal Expert Aug 3 , 2004 30172 posts 4818 upvotes East Gwillimbury I am pretty sure that Virgin is CDMA , there are no SIM cards You are refering to Virgin Mobile in Canada ? Nothing Here Heatware Feb 5th , 2009 8 : 55 pm # 3 Lulz Deal Addict Apr 9 , 2008 4773 posts 40 upvotes Virgin in Canada is CDMA . They are Telus / Bell resellers . They do not have SIM card slot because they are not GSM like Rogers Fido is . If I am not mistaken , Virgin in Europe is GSM ( but that still does not mean you can use European Virgin phones in Canada ) . Feb 6th , 2009 7 : 58 pm # 4 Paolo Banned Dec 1 , 2005 4853 posts 3 upvotes Toronto My friends dad obtained had a Virgin Phone and SIM , when he traveled to the United Kingdon . He broght it back here , unlocked it since it supported North American GSM Bands 850 & 1900 , and popped in his Rogers SIM , programmed the WAP / MMS settings himself cus Rogers store refused to do so for him , and now he has an unlocked Virgin Mobile phone working on rogers . How do you like dem apples , Bro ? Feb 6th , 2009 8 : 00 pm # 5 JAC Deal Guru Apr 17 , 2001 14941 posts 1758 upvotes Oshawa Paolo wrote : ↑ Feb 6th , 2009 7 : 58 pm My friends dad obtained had a Virgin Phone and SIM , when he traveled to the United Kingdon . He broght it back here , unlocked it since it supported North American GSM Bands 850 & 1900 , and popped in his Rogers SIM , programmed the WAP / MMS settings himself cus Rogers store refused to do so for him , and now he has an unlocked Virgin Mobile phone working on rogers . Good for him . The next time OP visits the UK , he can get one for himself . Feb 6th , 2009 9 : 11 pm # 6 lorax1284 Deal Addict Jan 27 , 2007 2602 posts 547 upvotes wfeddern wrote : ↑ Feb 5th , 2009 5 : 45 pm Just wondering if virgin mobile phones can be unlocked and used with a rogers SIM card , or if they are like telus / bell and do not use SIM cards . As other posters have said , Virgin Mobile Canada uses sublets from CDMA based vendors . You can get unlocked GSM phones relatively cheap that will work on Rogers . If you have access to a used Virgin Mobile handset , I recommend going with Virgin Mobile , because their rates are best , if you ask me ( if your airtime use will be relatively low ) na na na na na na na na na NA . Feb 7th , 2009 3 : 05 pm # 7 Shimso Jan 4 , 2007 3497 posts 180 upvotes lorax1284 Feb 6th , 2009 9 : 11 pm As other posters have said , Virgin Mobile Canada uses sublets from CDMA based vendors . You can get unlocked GSM phones relatively cheap that will work on Rogers . If you have access to a used Virgin Mobile handset , I recommend going with Virgin Mobile , because their rates are best , if you ask me ( if your airtime use will be relatively low ) Far from it . If you do n ' t use much it ' s quite a bit cheaper to go with 711 which runs the Rogers network ( or PetroCanada , although I do n ' t know much about them ) . 30c / min vs 20c / min 15c texts vs 4 cent texts ( but charged to receive them as well ) Call timer starts when phone starts ringing vs call starts when the person picks up IIRC a $ 25 card expires after two months on Virgin vs a 25 card that lasts a year on 7 - 11 ( although if you but the 25 or 50 cards from 711 , your calling rate is bumped to 25c / min and 5c / texts ) Not to mention all the issues I had when I was with VM ( almost all of them stemming from Bell ' s network ) . I could n ' t get a signal through most of my campus , was impossible to send texts in most of Toronto ' s PATH system , I had issues sending texts to non - Bell phones , and it would not alert me when I missed a call . Virgin WAS competitive for low - end uses , but after 2 price increases and other issues I ' m MUCH happier with 7 / 11 . I pay less and I get a better network ( although , depending on where you live Bell or Telus might be a better network ) . Mar 9th , 2010 1 : 29 pm # 8 zepperdude Member Dec 8 , 2001 488 posts 136 upvotes Nepean Are n ' t the new VirginMobile phones HSPA with SIM ' s ? ? ? Would they work on Rogers ? ? ? Mar 9th , 2010 3 : 01 pm # 9 tomtomtom Deal Fanatic Mar 9 , 2005 5444 posts 357 upvotes zepperdude Mar 9th , 2010 1 : 29 pm Are n ' t the new VirginMobile phones HSPA with SIM ' s ? ? ? Would they work on Rogers ? ? ? Answer as of Mar 9 , certain models ! BlackBerry 9700 , iPhone , yes on Rogers . Other , No . HoFo Feedback | RFD Feedback Top | [
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http://forums.redflagdeals.com/when-does-your-ontario-validation-sticker-really-expire-998963/ | Forums New Posts Forums Automotive When does your Ontario Validation Sticker REALLY expire When does your Ontario Validation Sticker REALLY expire Last Updated Aug 26th 2018 113 am Tags None SCORE 2 0 2 Search this thread Jan 31st 2011 1108 pm 1 D3lit3 OP Member Nov 6 2009 270 posts 24 upvotes When does your Ontario Validation Sticker REALLY expire It says Feb 2011 Does that mean it expires on the first of February or on my birthday which is Feb 27 If its the latter would I get stopped or picked on lol by police for having a validation sticker that expires the current month Wondering if I should renew it now or in 2 weeks after I get back from my vacation up north Thanks Jan 31st 2011 1155 pm 2 AcidBomber Moderator May 29 2007 15682 posts 3097 upvotes Toronto D3lit3 wrote It says Feb 2011 Does that mean it expires on the first of February or on my birthday which is Feb 27 If its the latter would I get stopped or picked on lol by police for having a validation sticker that expires the current month Wondering if I should renew it now or in 2 weeks after I get back from my vacation up north Thanks your birthday you wont be pulled over just for the sticker because the cops can see when your birthday is once they run your plate if you do get pulled over its likely for something else i would renew it ASAP RedFlagDealscom See an inappropriate post Use the Report Post function to alert Moderators Feb 1st 2011 1200 am 3 steve0101 Deal Fanatic Sep 13 2007 6020 posts 673 upvotes Greely Definitely on your birthday Feb 1st 2011 1202 am 4 Brolis Mom Deal Addict Oct 28 2007 1533 posts 115 upvotes Toronto httpwwwmtogovoncaenglishdandv enewshtml Vehicles In Ontario Licence plates are validated by obtaining and affixing a validation sticker to the upper right hand corner of your plate For your convenience a renewal application will be mailed to you approximately 60 days prior to the sticker expiry usually your birthdate If you are sure that youll be back before your birthday then renew it when you get back Feb 1st 2011 312 am 5 Jay1234 Sr Member Jul 22 2006 654 posts 7 upvotes To the OP why not just renew it now You could have already renewed it online with the amount of time it took you to post here 1 Feb 1st 2011 401 am 6 Tijuana Deal Fanatic Apr 25 2006 9972 posts 602 upvotes Mississauga Jay1234 wrote To the OP why not just renew it now You could have already renewed it online with the amount of time it took you to post here How dare you put common sense into this thread 4 Feb 1st 2011 407 am 7 jayt90 Deal Fanatic Sep 19 2009 5017 posts 542 upvotes Southwestern Ontario steve0101 wrote Definitely on your birthday First of the month is what I heard Think about it The sticker gives you a month and a year when you are still good before the new color appears You had better be renewed before that month begins There will be lots of other cars with the renewed sticker obeying the law and you may be stuck out of bounds If a cop allows you until your birthday that is discretionary 0 Feb 1st 2011 901 am 8 D3lit3 OP Member Nov 6 2009 270 posts 24 upvotes Jay1234 wrote To the OP why not just renew it now You could have already renewed it online with the amount of time it took you to post here I dont like doing governmentrelated things online I currently dont have time to take a day off to go stand in line at the serviceontario office jayt90 wrote First of the month is what I heard Think about it The sticker gives you a month and a year when you are still good before the new color appears You had better be renewed before that month begins There will be lots of other cars with the renewed sticker obeying the law and you may be stuck out of bounds If a cop allows you until your birthday that is discretionary Why does the official website that the guy above us quoted state otherwise Thanks 0 Feb 1st 2011 918 am 9 jperras Sr Member Feb 19 2006 897 posts 32 upvotes Your sticker expires at midnight on the day of your bday 1 Feb 1st 2011 1205 pm 10 poedua Deal Expert May 9 2005 31842 posts 1325 upvotes AcidBomber wrote your birthday you wont be pulled over just for the sticker because the cops can see when your birthday is once they run your plate if you do get pulled over its likely for something else i would renew it ASAP 1 The placebo effect is the most powerful supplement of all The pain of discipline weighs ounces the pain of neglect weighs tons The best training in the world cant overcome a lousy diet TRAIN HARD Feb 1st 2011 101 pm 11 Jay1234 Sr Member Jul 22 2006 654 posts 7 upvotes D3lit3 wrote I dont like doing governmentrelated things online I currently dont have time to take a day off to go stand in line at the serviceontario office Got to a Kiosk thenlazyiness is no excuse Again you could have already did this online and be done with it with the amount of time you took to post this Feb 1st 2011 225 pm 12 steve0101 Deal Fanatic Sep 13 2007 6020 posts 673 upvotes Greely jayt90 wrote First of the month is what I heard Think about it The sticker gives you a month and a year when you are still good before the new color appears You had better be renewed before that month begins There will be lots of other cars with the renewed sticker obeying the law and you may be stuck out of bounds If a cop allows you until your birthday that is discretionary I can guarantee you that you heard wrong Your sticker is valid until midnight on your birthday Its not discretionary Feb 1st 2011 236 pm 13 Winkle Deal Fanatic May 26 2009 7861 posts 907 upvotes They give you like 3 months to renew it Ive always gotten my notice at least 3 months in advance Plus it doesnt take a day there are a handful of ServiceOntario offices that open on Saturday just go in the morning at like 9am when they open no lineups or at most only a few people in line If you need to sleep in just go home after and plunk back down on your bed for a nap P Gods in His heaven Alls right with the world Robert Browning 18121889 Feb 1st 2011 422 pm 14 jetway1212 Banned Apr 16 2006 4572 posts 124 upvotes Chatham jayt90 wrote First of the month is what I heard Think about it The sticker gives you a month and a year when you are still good before the new color appears You had better be renewed before that month begins There will be lots of other cars with the renewed sticker obeying the law and you may be stuck out of bounds If a cop allows you until your birthday that is discretionary Here is what i would do if i were you Track down the person who told you this im sure theyre somewhere in your head Take an axe and and start chopping the persons head while yelling Die die mfker Say hi to the devil for me will ya Then report back to us 1 Mar 27th 2016 755 pm 15 User278845 Newbie Mar 27 2016 3 posts steve0101 wrote Definitely on your birthday My lease vehicle is due July 2016which i intend to return to the dealership can I buy a three or six months plate 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http://forums.roadbikereview.com/bikes-frames-forks/type-spoke-metal-289160.html | Forum Classic Forums Bikes , Frames and Forks Type of spoke metal ? Results 1 to 10 of 10 Thread : Type of spoke metal ? LinkBack Thread Tools 08 - 30 - 2012 # 1 needlotsofhelp RoadBikeReview Member Reputation : Join Date Aug 2012 Posts 24 Type of spoke metal ? Hi everyone , I ' m very new to biking and have many questions . So lately I been trying to learn how to true wheels . I am using TM - 1 from Park , but I want to ask how do I know what type of metal the spokes are without contacting the manufacturer and asking them directly because that might not be an option . 08 - 30 - 2012 # 2 Specialized747 RoadBikeReview Member Reputation : Join Date Aug 2012 Posts 1 it depens on what bike you have if it is a lower end bike the spokes will be made of steel and then if it is better quality the spokes become aluminum then carbon . # 3 needlotsofhelp 24 I thought that stainless steel was the best of the available ? But I have a very low end bike that I bought used and it ' s possible that it could of been replaced by the previous owners . However , I found out that steel can be differentiated by magnet attraction . Still not so sure about the other type of metals that are used to make spokes . # 4 danl1 Steaming piles of opinion Jul 2005 10,503 Originally Posted by I thought that stainless steel was the best of the available ? But I have a very low end bike that I bought used and it ' s possible that it could of been replaced by the previous owners . However , I found out that steel can be differentiated by magnet attraction . Still not so sure about the other type of metals that are used to make spokes . For your purposes , they are steel . The alloy is not relevant to the question you seem to ba asking . A good habit is as hard to break as a bad one . . # 5 rm - rf Feb 2006 692 The TM - 1 spoke tension meter comes with a chart to pick the correct tension number for each type of spoke . Some of the columns on the chart are for Carbon , Titanium , or Aluminum . Carbon and Titanium are extremely rare . Aluminum spokes are only used on a few expensive wheels , and are almost always flat ( bladed ) . Everything else is Steel - - that ' s what you have . Use the gauge to decide what diameter spokes you have , and use that column ' s tension numbers . # 6 Okay , got it . Simple ! # 7 cxwrench ' brifter ' is a lame word . Nov 2004 13,527 Originally Posted by Specialized747 it depens on what bike you have if it is a lower end bike the spokes will be made of steel and then if it is better quality the spokes become aluminum then carbon . where ' d you come up w / this answer ? how about this . . .pretty much every bike out there ( 99.99 % ) have steel spokes . if the bike comes w / Mavic Ksyrium SL , SR , or SLR OR one of the R - SYS wheels it will have either alloy or carbon spokes . if it has Fulcrum high end wheels like Racing Zero or One , it will have alloy spokes . the fact that a bike is considered ' high quality ' does not mean it will have spokes made of any given material . there are literally thousands and thousands of high ( quality , price , end , reputation . . .take your pick ) bikes out there w / steel spokes . I work for some bike racers I ' ve got some bikes , some guns , and a bunch of skateboards 08 - 31 - 2012 # 8 eidolon Jun 2012 87 I assumed that 747 was joking . . . 08 - 31 - 2012 # 9 Kontact Happily absent RBR Member Apr 2011 3,940 I thought that stainless steel was the best of the available ? But I have a very low end bike that I bought used and it ' s possible that it could of been replaced by the previous owners . However , I found out that steel can be differentiated by magnet attraction . Still not so sure about the other type of metals that are used to make spokes . The stainless steel used in spokes and knives is magnetic . Get a better saddle : www . kontactbike . com # 10 Jetmugg Sep 2010 374 Carbon steel is ferromagnetic . 400 series stainless steels in hardened and tempered form are ferromagnetic . 300 series stainless steels are not . That ' s not really important . The way tension gages work is to rely on Young ' s Modulus ( E ) for any given material . For all steels , this value is approximated by 29 x 10 6th . It is a unitless measure . Unless your wheels are something very exotic , you will have steel spokes , and the tension meter will work just fine . Posting Permissions You may not post new threads You may not post replies post attachments edit your posts BB code is On Smilies are On [ IMG ] code is [ VIDEO ] code is HTML code is Trackbacks are Off Pingbacks Off Refbacks Forum Rules Contact Us RoadBikeReview . com Top | [
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http://forums.softballfans.com/threads/ejection-penalty.1445067/ | Forums Softball Discussions Welcome to our site Please take a moment to sign up Dismiss Notice USSSA Ejection penalty Discussion in Ask the Umpire started by wcoastsoftball Oct 3 2017 wcoastsoftball Moderator Joined Jun 5 2004 Messages 10975 Likes Received 81 Player gets tossed Team has immediate replacement for him Do they still have to take the out the next time the ejected player is up or can the replacement bat for him without penalty We thought they had to take the out on the next at bat then the other player can substitute 1 wcoastsoftball Oct 3 2017 Country469 WellKnown Member Joined Jun 22 2016 Messages 16478 Likes Received 1227 nerp he can come right in 2 Country469 Oct 3 2017 wcoastsoftball likes this NCASAUmp My backpacks got jets Joined Jul 28 2009 Messages 11665 Likes Received 204 Take an out wait what No The sub goes in right away 3 NCASAUmp Oct 3 2017 LIKEUCM Member Joined Jul 8 2016 Messages 124 Likes Received 15 In USAASA softball the ejected player has to hit the road but the sub that entered in hisher place can fill the role of a sub on offense defense or as a runner right away 4 LIKEUCM Oct 3 2017 EAJuggalo Addicted to Softballfans Joined Aug 12 2009 Messages 1076 Likes Received 35 A valid sub can and must go in for the ejected player immediately if you have one The only thing that would require you to take an out in that position is if you dont have a valid sub or the position was vacated by an offensive ejection in E An offensive ejection is an out every time that spot in the line up comes up as long as properly appealed 5 EAJuggalo Oct 6 2017 yance Addicted to Softballfans Joined Dec 5 2003 Messages 486 Likes Received 5 What is considered an offensive ejection Throwing the bat a second time after being warned 6 yance Oct 9 2017 LIKEUCM Member Joined Jul 8 2016 Messages 124 Likes Received 15 EAJuggalo said A valid sub can and must go in for the ejected player immediately if you have one The only thing that would require you to take an out in that position is if you dont have a valid sub or the position was vacated by an offensive ejection in E An offensive ejection is an out every time that spot in the line up comes up as long as properly appealed In USAASA Softball you are not permitted to play shorthanded as a result of an ejection If you had someone who could not continue for other reasons and had to go shorthanded then yes you would take an automatic out in that position when the player is due to bat no appeal would be necessary for that to happen in a shorthanded situation Not sure what USSSA does but I believe it is the same If you do not have a sub for an ejected player the game is over by forfiet 7 LIKEUCM Oct 9 2017 EAJuggalo Addicted to Softballfans Joined Aug 12 2009 Messages 1076 Likes Received 35 yance said What is considered an offensive ejection Throwing the bat a second time after being warned An offensive ejection is the result of hitting an over the fence home run in E The player may play defense but anyone in that batting order position is not allowed to hit run or coach a base for the remainder of the game If that player is substituted for the restrictions still stand LIKEUCM would you care to give me a rule citation on that please As Irish is so fond of saying what one association does is irrelevant to the others Rule 111 covers playing shorthanded in Mens BCD and E 8 EAJuggalo Oct 14 2017 LIKEUCM Member Joined Jul 8 2016 Messages 124 Likes Received 15 EAJuggalo said An offensive ejection is the result of hitting an over the fence home run in E The player may play defense but anyone in that batting order position is not allowed to hit run or coach a base for the remainder of the game If that player is substituted for the restrictions still stand LIKEUCM would you care to give me a rule citation on that please As Irish is so fond of saying what one association does is irrelevant to the others Rule 111 covers playing shorthanded in Mens BCD and E USA SOFTBALL Rule 4 D2A To continue a game once started with a full team listed on the line up card If a team begins play with the required number of players as listed that team may continue a game with one less player than is currently in the batting order whenever a player leaves the game for any reason other than ejection EFFECT Failure to have the requireday number of eligible players to start or continue a game will result in a forfeit 9 LIKEUCM Oct 15 2017 Joker WellKnown Member Joined Apr 14 2006 Messages 8408 Likes Received 1638 You have no idea what an offensive ejection is As usual your posts are wrong 10 Joker Oct 15 2017 LIKEUCM Member Joined Jul 8 2016 Messages 124 Likes Received 15 EAJUGGALO USA does not have the ejection for home runs in E that you noted We used to have an inning ending home run in E Recent rule changes now just makes a home run in E an out Even with the rule you noted for excess home runs in E I believe that would be a disqualified player for hitting the home run and not an ejection You may go shorthanded as a result of a disqualified player but just not because of an ejection 11 LIKEUCM Oct 15 2017 LIKEUCM Member Joined Jul 8 2016 Messages 124 Likes Received 15 EAJuggalo said An offensive ejection is the result of hitting an over the fence home run in E The player may play defense but anyone in that batting order position is not allowed to hit run or coach a base for the remainder of the game If that player is substituted for the restrictions still stand LIKEUCM would you care to give me a rule citation on that please As Irish is so fond of saying what one association does is irrelevant to the others Rule 111 covers playing shorthanded in Mens BCD and E RULE 4D2A USA 2017 To continue a game once started with a full team listed on the lineup card A If a team begins play with the required number of players as listed that team may continue a game with one less player than is currently in the batting order whenever a player leaves the game for any reason other than ejection EFFECT Failure to have the required number of eligible players to start or continue a game will result in a forfeit 12 LIKEUCM Oct 15 2017 Joker WellKnown Member Joined Apr 14 2006 Messages 8408 Likes Received 1638 Repeating it doesnt make it less wrong 13 Joker Oct 15 2017 RNRPLZ Member Joined Oct 6 2017 Messages 59 Likes Received 5 Joker said You have no idea what an offensive ejection is As usual your posts are wrong Sounds right to me I have no desire to do usssa ball but I used to play a lot in the association Sounds like you may have a league rule for E ball An ejection is out of site out of sound Unless its a disqualified player That is different 14 RNRPLZ Oct 15 2017 Joker WellKnown Member Joined Apr 14 2006 Messages 8408 Likes Received 1638 It has nothing to do with offensive ejections 15 Joker Oct 15 2017 LIKEUCM Member Joined Jul 8 2016 Messages 124 Likes Received 15 Joker said Repeating it doesnt make it less wrong Sorry for the duplicate post on reply I thought the first one did not send correctly Not sure if you are addressing me joker but if so how can a quote of the acutal rule to support not playing shorthanded due to an ejection be wrong Everyone knows that if a player is ejected and you do not have a eligible sub the game is a forfeit Am I missing something here 16 LIKEUCM Oct 16 2017 Joker WellKnown Member Joined Apr 14 2006 Messages 8408 Likes Received 1638 you quoted a guy talking about an offensive ejection that rule has nothing to do with that 17 Joker Oct 16 2017 LIKEUCM Member Joined Jul 8 2016 Messages 124 Likes Received 15 I am not clear on what an offensive ejection is I thought an ejection was an ejection regardless of it it involved offensive or defensive player On the excess homerun situation would that not be considered as a disqualification and not an ejection If that is the case playing shorthanded would be permitted correct 18 LIKEUCM Oct 16 2017 jbo911 Super Moderator Joined Apr 12 2003 Messages 31586 Likes Received 855 In utrip and gsl r result of a homerun over the limit in e where the limit is 0 is an inning ending it and an offensive ejection The player is it every time his spot in the order comes up but he is still in the game on defense He cant run or coach base either as said above Its a specific penalty so that utrip can penalize people for hitting homeruns 19 jbo911 Oct 16 2017 LIKEUCM Member Joined Jul 8 2016 Messages 124 Likes Received 15 jbo911 said In utrip and gsl r result of a homerun over the limit in e where the limit is 0 is an inning ending it and an offensive ejection The player is it every time his spot in the order comes up but he is still in the game on defense He cant run or coach base either as said above Its a specific penalty so that utrip can penalize people for hitting homeruns jbo911 THANK YOU for the explanation I live in the ASAUSA world and had not been aware of the offensive ejection that you described Learned something today That makes it a good day 20 LIKEUCM Oct 16 2017 EAJuggalo Addicted to Softballfans Joined Aug 12 2009 Messages 1076 Likes Received 35 LIKEUCM You did notice that the header of this thread lists USSSA correct We are not talking about ASA and asserting an ASA rule when we are talking about USSSA is exactly what is supposed to be avoided in this forum If you have a USSSA rule cite that says you cant play shorthanded due to an ejection please post it And I explained what an OE was in post 8 21 EAJuggalo Oct 16 2017 LIKEUCM Member Joined Jul 8 2016 Messages 124 Likes Received 15 EA My apologies I thought you were mistaking ejection for disqualification Did not know about the offensive ejection in Utrip Have no rule to cite for Utrip on this I think it is strange to have someone not premitted to play offense and call it an ejection but that is just my opinion Will just read the USSA posts moving forward Did not intend to muddy the waters The OP seemed to be 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http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-steroids-questions-answers/181572-how-long-does-clen-take-show-results.html | Forum STEROIDS FORUM ANABOLIC STEROIDS - QUESTIONS & ANSWERS How long does clen take to show results ? If this is your first visit , be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above . You may have to register before you can post : click the register link above to proceed . To start viewing messages , select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below . Results 1 to 9 of 9 Thread : How long does clen take to show results ? LinkBack Thread Tools Rate This Thread 07 - 12 - 2005 , 02 : 02 AM # 1 Two4the $ $ Senior Member Join Date Feb 2005 Posts 1,717 How long does clen take to show results ? Been taking clen . . . was wondering how long it will take before I see results . Also , my appetite is CRAZY . It ' s like I ' m on a damned cycle . WTF ? I would n ' t mention it , but a girl who I know who ' d lost some weight . . well , yeah , I confronter her , and she ' s been taking clen also . lol . Anyway , she said she had headaches , shakes , increased hunger , and at about the third week she said she was noticing some really nice improvements . This girls has an AWESOME body now . Anyway , I was wondering if this was pretty standard . Also , I ' m in a pretty good mood , Comments are alllll welcomed . 07 - 12 - 2005 , 02 : 08 AM # 2 sbeast007 Senior Member Join Date Sep 2004 Location U.K wales Posts 1,087 i also had the shakes from clen , how long have u been taking it and at wot dose ? 02 : 41 AM # 3 China Dawg Junior Member Mar 2005 Location China 109 How long it will take to see results depends so much on cardio , diet , dosage of , and where you ' re at to start with . You wo n ' t see ANY results with clen if you still eat high calories ! I think what you ' re really asking is when will you see the effects of taking clen - the noticable side effects . Well I ' ve done about five cycles of clen and I ' m on one now . I usually notice sides from clen - shakes and rapid heart rate - about 30 minutes after taking it . They ' re worse the first week and then subside a little but I still notice my shakes get worse 30 minutes after my daily dose , even if it ' s only 40 mcg . If you 03 : 05 AM # 4 MatrixGuy Good things come to those who wait Mar 2005 UK , Lancashire 5,239 Originally Posted by TrumanHW Been taking . . . was wondering how long it will take before I see results . Also , my appetite is CRAZY . It ' s like I ' m on a damned cycle . WTF ? I would n ' t mention it , but a girl who I know who ' d lost some weight . . well , yeah , I confronter her , and she ' s been taking clen also . lol . Anyway , she said she had headaches , shakes , increased hunger , and at about the third week she said she was noticing some really nice improvements . This girls has an AWESOME body now . Anyway , I was wondering if this was pretty standard . Also , I ' m in a pretty good mood , Comments are alllll welcomed . Clen will only help boost your results bro . The main issue is diet . 03 : 31 AM # 5 Two4the $ $ Feb 2005 1,717 yeah , I ' ve seriously cut carbs . Also , I ' m an ectomorph , I have never been more than 14 % BF in my life . I am doing aerobic exercise . . . but interestingly enough , a friend of mine got SUPER lean just doing sprints and dieting . The sprints are supposed to be bomb for elevating your metabolism for TWO days ! ! ! Anyway , when did the cause noticeable fat loss is the question . . . . 01 : 47 PM # 6 bump 01 : 58 PM # 7 BIGPAPAPUMP77 Member Dec 2004 manchVegas 646 i would say depending on dosage and diet / cardio . . . .couple weeks 02 : 16 PM # 8 Thanks . . . . some one finally answered my question ! ! ! ! ! But , I would like to see what a few people have experienced in terms of noticing results . 05 : 38 PM # 9 G.I JOE Junior Member Dec 2004 Canada 111 Well for me the first time i tried i didnt have no results but this was about a year ago . Im takin clen again and now I really see how important dieting is . Ive lost about 3 - 5lbs in about 10 days . Cardio every morning ( except sat sun ) and work out at night . My diet is in check and it also helps that my job is extremely physicle . Only difference this time around is im doing more cardio and diet is strick . Posting Permissions You may not post new threads You may not post replies post attachments edit your posts BB code is On Smilies are On [ IMG ] code is [ VIDEO ] code is HTML code is Off Trackbacks are Pingbacks Refbacks Forum Rules | [
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http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/its-ok-to-roll-eyes-top-loading-bose-wave-radio-cd-crapped-out-on-me.226457/ | Forums Audio Hardware Its OK to roll eyes TopLoading Bose Wave RadioCD crapped out on me Discussion in Audio Hardware started by nukevor Aug 31 2010 Thread Status Not open for further replies 1 2 3 4 nukevor Active Member Thread Starter Location CA A few years before I discovered this forum I got one of those toploading Wave Radio CD players I reckon from 1999 The radio clock and alarm still work Up until last week the CD player worked Now it doesnt recognize any compact discs Tried to reboot it unplug but no dice Of course the transport must be shot from what Ive learned here on the forums What a buzz kill Its been a great little unit Not worth it to fix unless someone tells me otherwise One of its cool features was the ability to listen to a CD as an alarm wakeup Unless I see something magical that will make me fork over the dough am not looking for a replacement NonBose anytime soon Ifwhen I cross that bridge the build quality should be fantastic Conversely the few and far between SACD minisystems weve seen on this forum are way too expensive and not worth the dough nukevor Aug 31 2010 1 White and Blue Active Member Location Vermont USA No eye rolling here Bose products are pretty solid for what they are compact lifestyle devices with an inoffensive house sound If you want the wakeup feature and have an iPod touch or iPhone theres plenty of decent docks for 100 JBL makes some nice compact ones that are worth checking out If you really love the wave I see older models fairly cheap on eBay but I dont know if they all have the CD wakeup feature White and Blue Aug 31 2010 2 ex_mixer Forum Resident Location New Jersey Hey Nukevor I have one of these systems too they are decent units I fell they do a nice job Mine is in my home office and it fills up the small room with great sound I got it in 2000 and in 04 it was damaged from a spike in AC during a storm I called Bose and they repaired it for 99 Its been working ever since I prefer the top loader to the new slot loading model I can play the 3 CD singles in it and CDs from my local library they place metal security strips on the top of the CDs and they are a nightmare in slot loading machines Anywhoo no eye rolling from me sorry to hear your unit is having problems Try calling Bose and see if they can repair it at a decent price For me 100 bucks was a sound investment cheers ex_mixer ex_mixer Aug 31 2010 3 KeithH Success With Honorthen and now Location Beaver Stadium Perhaps this is the response you are looking for Your Bose Wave Radio isnt working properly Why does it sound good now Seriously sorry to hear about this I imagine it isnt so easy to find a clock radio with a CD player these days but I havent looked for one in awhile Does Bose still make the Wave Radio KeithH Aug 31 2010 4 cdash99 Forum Resident Location Mass Years ago I came to the conclusion that the Cambridge Soundworks radios performed just as well as their Bose counterparts at 12 the cost At that price point should a unit crap out on me after 68 years Ill have at least gotten my moneys worth out of it cdash99 Aug 31 2010 5 Thermionic Dude Forum Resident Im not convinced your transport is truly shot Its entirely possible that it still has some useful life left and just needs a cleaning Since its a toploader you should have easy access to the pick up lens and my first move would be to give it a cleaning The safest way to do this is to moisten a cotton swab dont use qtips because the cotton tip sheds too much lint use swabs intended for electronics with some isopropyl alcohol and CAREFULLY swab the lens Dont use much pressure and dont wipe it multiple times The best type of isopropanol to use is anhydrous because it will evaporate the quickest but youll probably have to order it from an electronics supplier like MCM Also its probably worth checking the gears and sled assembly because after ten years the grease used to lubricate these parts has deteriorated and hardened and might actually be causing the sled to move erratically Cleaning this up is a bit more involved because the transport will have to be removed use the same isopropyl alcohol and swabs to clean the old grease out then apply some fresh grease but it might bring things back to life if lens cleaning has no effect These things may or may not work but are very cheap and in the case of lens cleaning quick and probably worth a try if you are otherwise satisfied with the unit Oh yeah I have absolutely nothing against Bose at all so no eyerolling here They build unique products with good quality control and decent parts quality and have the reputation for excellent customer service Audiophiles bashing Bose is a nonstarter as far as Im concerned its about as stupid as when car geeks bash Toyota for building boring cars Neither Toyota nor Bose market to the enthusiast crowd and ARE NOT competing for this segment of consumers Toyotas focus is building reliable cars and marketing them more as appliances to normal people who use them for transportation while Boses focus Thermionic Dude Aug 31 2010 6 Joyofradio likes this Dillydipper Sultan Of Snark Location The Planet of the Apes The reason there is so much antiBose sentiment in the audiophile community is because they are so successful at what they represent their product to be as if there werent a dozen other products on the market that are engineered better and a better value The equivalent in say the automotive world might be if Nissan spent all their money blanketing the airwaves with Geicosized ad buys with some overthehill celebrity saying Unlike all the other personaltransport devices on the market today only Nissan offers their exclusive FourWheels Technologyact now and well include the intricate system of seat restraints and our own collisionprotecting Inflating Bags cleverly installed right in front of the driver and passengers The Car Driver crowd would be incensedbut theyd sure sell a lot of Altimas to your grandparents Dillydipper Aug 31 2010 7 kevintomb Forum Resident Location Near Pittsburgh Pa Ive heard this system and honestly its great sounding for how small it isNo eye rolling For all its features etc its a great bedroom system or dining room system Inlaws used one in their big dining room and it does wonders while not being really seen If you dont want it im sure I can fix it and will pay shipping if you give it to mehehe kevintomb Aug 31 2010 8 TStewart422 Forum Resident Location Nashville TN The hate for Bose isnt that their stuff sounds bad its the fact that you can find equivalent gear even new for a much lower price My speakers are MUCH better and I barely paid 100 for them TStewart422 Aug 31 2010 9 hutlock Forum Resident Location Cleveland OH USA Agreed I have Bose earbuds that I use with my iPod Got them free with Amex bonus points and as such I think they sound very nice indeed hutlock Aug 31 2010 10 nukevor Active Member Thread Starter Location CA ex_mixer said Hey Nukevor I have one of these systems too they are decent units I fell they do a nice job Mine is in my home office and it fills up the small room with great sound I got it in 2000 and in 04 it was damaged from a spike in AC during a storm I called Bose and they repaired it for 99 Its been working ever since I prefer the top loader to the new slot loading model I can play the 3 CD singles in it and CDs from my local library they place metal security strips on the top of the CDs and they are a nightmare in slot loading machines Anywhoo no eye rolling from me sorry to hear your unit is having problems Try calling Bose and see if they can repair it at a decent price For me 100 bucks was a sound investment cheers ex_mixer Click to expand Great news EX thanks for posting Ill look into this I still have the original boxpackaging Meanwhile Im scouting the same model I have on eBay If i can get it less for 100 I might do that and fix the other one a bit later nukevor Aug 31 2010 11 Thermionic Dude Forum Resident Dillydipper said The reason there is so much antiBose sentiment in the audiophile community is because they are so successful at what they represent their product to be as if there werent a dozen other products on the market that are engineered better and a better value The equivalent in say the automotive world might be if Nissan spent all their money blanketing the airwaves with Geicosized ad buys with some overthehill celebrity saying Unlike all the other personaltransport devices on the market today only Nissan offers their exclusive FourWheels Technologyact now and well include the intricate system of seat restraints and our own collisionprotecting Inflating Bags cleverly installed right in front of the driver and passengers The Car Driver crowd would be incensedbut theyd sure sell a lot of Altimas to your grandparents Click to expand OK then why are so many audiophiles hoodwinked into spending on things like highend power cords Unlike all the other electric current conduit devices on the market today only DiamondGold cables feature exclusive Copperurgy construction The result is that absolutely no electrons are lost between your power outlet and equipment and ensuring that every note crystallizes out of a pristine black background and dances for you in a perfectly placed holographic image Ive seen plenty of real ads aimed at audiophiles which read just this ridiculously How is Bose really any worse Thermionic Dude Aug 31 2010 12 Joyofradio likes this Dillydipper Sultan Of Snark Location The Planet of the Apes Do a search on the board youre on Thermionic Dudeyoull find all you need to know about power cords interconnects and electricity conditioning improvements above and beyond one brand name Bose bases its marketing on the implication that they not only invented the wheel but theyve also got the patent Dillydipper Aug 31 2010 13 ROLO46 Forum Resident Location StroudGloucestershire England Dont worry its probably the cardboard tube wave technology TM that has failed Send it back to Omar and he will recondition it 90 of cost The Wave Technology can be tuned to honk at a number of pleasing frequencies A Friend ROLO46 Aug 31 2010 14 Pickoid Forum Resident Location Little Rock AR Dillydipper said The equivalent in say the automotive world might be if Nissan spent all their money blanketing the airwaves with Geicosized ad buys with some overthehill celebrity saying Unlike all the other personaltransport devices on the market today only Nissan offers their exclusive FourWheels Technologyact now and well include the intricate system of seat restraints and our own collisionprotecting Inflating Bags cleverly installed right in front of the driver and passengers The Car Driver crowd would be incensedbut theyd sure sell a lot of Altimas to your grandparents LOL thats a brilliant analysis Pickoid Aug 31 2010 15 Leigh Tornado scientist Location Madison Wisconsin USA Thermionic Dude said OK then why are so many audiophiles hoodwinked into spending on things like highend power cords Unlike all the other electric current conduit devices on the market today only DiamondGold cables feature exclusive Copperurgy construction The result is that absolutely no electrons are lost between your power outlet and equipment and ensuring that every note crystallizes out of a pristine black background and dances for you in a perfectly placed holographic image Ive seen plenty of real ads aimed at audiophiles which read just this ridiculously How is Bose really any worse Its not Its exactly the same What bothers me mostly about Bose is the ridiculous amount of money they spend on marketing They have succeeded in their endeavor of convincing average people that they make a superior product Such is life The only Bose product I have ever considered is their noisecanceling headset and as of yet I have not even demoed one I have heard some of their smaller players and thought they sounded OK for their size but nothing out of the ordinary as compared to other manufacturers Logitechs offerings their Squeezeboxesque clock radio and boom box sound very very nice for the size and they integrate with my entire music library and are priced very nicely Ill likely never even consider Bose for anything regardless of my general distaste with their company Leigh Aug 31 2010 16 MilesSmiles Oenologist Location Now reporting from the 305 Dillydipper said The reason there is so much antiBose sentiment in the audiophile community is because they are so successful at what they represent their product to be as if there werent a dozen other products on the market that are engineered better and a better value The equivalent in say the automotive world might be if Nissan spent all their money blanketing the airwaves with Geicosized ad buys with some overthehill celebrity saying Unlike all the other personaltransport devices on the market today only Nissan offers their exclusive FourWheels Technologyact now and well include the intricate system of seat restraints and our own collisionprotecting Inflating Bags cleverly installed right in front of the driver and passengers The Car Driver crowd would be incensedbut theyd sure sell a lot of Altimas to your grandparents Click to expand Hey thats pretty good you should get a job in marketing MilesSmiles Aug 31 2010 17 Thermionic Dude Forum Resident Dillydipper said Do a search on the board youre on Thermionic Dudeyoull find all you need to know about power cords interconnects and electricity conditioning improvements above and beyond one brand name Bose bases its marketing on the implication that they not only invented the wheel but theyve also got the patent My point is simply that many companies targeting the audiophile market have made similarly outlandish claims yet do not receive the scorn that Bose does I singledout power cables only because it was the first thing that came to mind and cable manufacturers are some of the worst offenders IMO when it comes to marketing claims Marketing is an essential function of consumeroriented businesses the fact that Bose has successfully positioned themselves as the reinventor of the wheel is neither good nor bad its just evidence that they have a very competent effective marketing department I realize that there are myriad cheaper bettersounding routes to musical satisfaction than Bose but this misses the point BOSE DOES NOT TARGET OUR DEMOGRAPHIC Bose targets the technophobe demographic who just wants ease of use unobtrusive appearance and roomfilling sound No one does this better than Bose While its true that other companies make gear with similar formfactor and audio performance at a lower price these alternatives are more techy which makes a lot of folks nervous You could take someone like my grandmother and point out that a Polk or Cambridge unit is cheaper and bettersounding than the No intent to derail this thread I actually tried to give a thoughtful answer to the OPs question in my first response but man some of you guys hatred of all things Bose is almost at the level of religious ferver Thermionic Dude Aug 31 2010 18 Robin L Musical Omnivore Location Fresno California Thermionic Dude said Ive seen plenty of real ads aimed at audiophiles which read just this ridiculously How is Bose really any worse Theyre much more successful Robin L Aug 31 2010 19 Thesmellofvinyl Forum Resident Location Cohoes NY USA Sony makes a unit it calls Dream Machine ICFCD843V which features the CDasalarm feature Often its the sound of the motor beginning to spin that awakens me Thesmellofvinyl Aug 31 2010 20 White and Blue Active Member Location Vermont USA Successful companies advertise A company as large as Bose needs to be aggressive and proactive to stay on top revenuewise A boutique speaker manufacturer needs to buy a handful of print ads in enthusiast magazines and move a couple hundred to a couple thousand units per year A company like Bose needs to reach a much larger demographic and sell a tremendous number of units so they behave accordingly I fail to understand why this is a big deal White and Blue Aug 31 2010 21 kevinsinnott Forum Coffeeologist Location Chicago IL USA No eye rolling here Ive had ten years use from my Bose Acoustic Wave Even when it got caught in a rainstorm earlier this summer I got helpful advice from Bose and this forum and it saved my unit I think theres nothing like the sound of a Bose given the size and simplicity Call Bose It might not cost much to fix your unit and its straightforward In my case they recommended a fix that worked and I was back in business in a day kevinsinnott Aug 31 2010 22 eelkiller DR8 Location Where Superior meets Huron I have a wave radio at the office it is perfect for that environment I had the same issue as you it would not recognise CDs it was a cheap fix eelkiller Aug 31 2010 23 McLover Forum Resident Location East TN The Bigger Acoustic Wave system is actually very decent for a one box system Its not bad sonically but not up to good separates If I were flush Id buy my mom one she needs a good simple unit And I typically am not a Bose fan See avatar for my first love McLover Aug 31 2010 24 Dillydipper Sultan Of Snark Location The Planet of the Apes Thermionic Dude said Bose targets the technophobe demographic who just wants ease of use unobtrusive appearance and roomfilling sound No one does this better than Bose In reality no one tells you they do this better than Bose Thats what weve been trying to tell you But Bose apparently has taken control of the critical thinking center that lets you decide for yourself without accepting the first answer that comes to your brains doorstep Dillydipper Aug 31 2010 25 You must log in or sign up to reply here 1 2 3 4 Thread Status Not open for further replies Share This Page Forums Audio Hardware | [
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http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/lenco-l70-bogen-b62-turntable-thoughts-and-mods.272729/ | Home Forums Discussions Audio Hardware Lenco L70 Bogen B62 turntable thoughts and mods Discussion in Audio Hardware started by fxsuperglide Jan 2 2012 Thread Status Not open for further replies fxsuperglide Active Member Thread Starter Location York PA 17402 United States Last year I got ahold of a Bogen B62 turntable for cheap since it didnt really function as it should idler tire dried out and slipping I also discovered the tonearm which seems ok in most respects has some issues with the headshell and attaching collar might be fixable perhaps just a missing guide pin on the headshell itself Upon trying to do some other tests and before spending 75100 on an idler wheel I determined there were some other issues and decided to go the major modification route instead besides Im not too fond of the stock setup anyhow Oh and as for the rest of the turntable Im not so sure I have any use for it so perhaps Im going to put it out there ebay agon etc and see if any Lenco guys might be interested in the remaining parts I might still try to save the tonearm either for the modified version of this project or perhaps for another custom build not sure yet I sure am looking forward to doing this custom build using the Lenco platter Attached Files Bogen B62 Lenco L70 1jpg File size 369 KB Views 56 Bogen B62 Lenco L70 Linn subchassis parts 004jpg File size 185 KB Views 44 fxsuperglide Jan 2 2012 1 Dubmart Forum Resident Location Bristol UK I recently sold what I considered a junk L75 on ebay for spares and got pretty good money theres definitely a market for parts out there one day Ill finally get my idler project sorted Dubmart Jan 2 2012 2 fxsuperglide Active Member Thread Starter Location York PA 17402 United States I was am quite surprised what these seem to be selling for I looked up Lenco and it appears that one virtually identical to mine a model L70 in excellent condition of course sold for 349 I guess there is a market for these turntables In fact the first time I heard of the brand I was talking to a former Linn Sondek LP12 owner who swore by his Lenco I believe he had the L75 model Now I guess with all the talk about it combined with an interest in good sounding vintage tables the Lenco seems to be As for my planned custom unit Im still deciding whether I want to go with an external rim drive idler or go with a belt drive setup similar to the Micro Seiki and some early Empire models Im guessing that the latter setup will result in less noiserumble but if the former is isolated enough and has a smooth tire surface with a good quality bearing itll be quiet enough fxsuperglide Jan 3 2012 3 Tony L Forum Resident Location UK My advice would be to fix it up and try it out You may be rather surprised Ive got an older L70 dating from 1963 With a suitable period cartridge in this case a Shure M3D it sounds surprisingly good in fact it was the deck that inspired me to sell a very nice Nottingham Analogue Spacedeck and try some idler drive decks I now have a Garrard 301 and a Thorens TD124II as well The L70 when working correctly is great fun and Im certain that comes from its drive system Its also the easiest of the vintage idler decks to work on as the motor and main bearing are both simple and very effective Youll need to find a new idler though as PS lots of info on Lenco Heaven Tony L Jan 3 2012 4 Ghostworld likes this kt66brooklyn Forum Resident Location brooklyn ny Lencos command a high price because they are true giant killers when fixed up properly To the degree that they are one of the best turntables out there If it were mine I would restore it to its original function and install it in a heavy plinth They also have one of the best pitch correction methods of any turntable kt66brooklyn Jan 3 2012 5 McLover Forum Resident Location East TN This table is a Lenco David Bogen Company imported them after Presto Recording Corporation closed down The SHF of Lenco is wwwlencoheavennet Tweaked can compete with anything priced sanely Does need replinthing and overhauling and a new tonearm to sing best A Linn Basik or Ittok will easily align and install where the original arm is mounted McLover Jan 3 2012 6 Tony L Forum Resident Location UK Also endorsed by Dave Brubeck Tony L Jan 3 2012 7 McLover likes this fxsuperglide Active Member Thread Starter Location York PA 17402 United States I just realized another problem If I should decide to restore this turntable to original besides fixing the broken motor mounting stud and possibly retensioning the springs so the idler wont slip I have to try and find a replacement idler wheel I just looked online and apparently the source that was manufacturing the wheels for around 100 or so is no longer So again I will have to rerethink this whole exact restoration vs modified custom idea If I were to restore it with the original drive setup I would definitely consider the whole replinth idea and possibly even fxsuperglide Jan 4 2012 8 McLover Forum Resident Location East TN You can get the idler wheel rebuilt Costs around 40 Terrys Rubber Rollers and several other firms refurbish them McLover Jan 4 2012 9 jmathers Forum Resident Location Royal Oak Michigan USA Also try the UK ebay site Idler wheels pop up on there all the time and they are relatively cheap to ship to the US I got my metal idler with idler arm and spring there this fall for a reasonable 20 shipped It made a huge difference in sound on my BogenPresto Lenco table Jeff jmathers Jan 5 2012 10 drh Talking Machine Location Silver Spring Maryland USA McLover said This table is a Lenco David Bogen Company imported them after Presto Recording Corporation closed down The SHF of Lenco is wwwlencoheavennet Tweaked can compete with anything priced sanely Does need replinthing and overhauling and a new tonearm to sing best A Linn Basik or Ittok will easily align and install where the original arm is mounted emphasis added Ive had both a LencoasLenco and LencorebadgedasBogen They had different arms the Bogens looked like that in the OPs photo but my experience was that both tracked very poorly Moreover these arms do not take standard headshells I suppose my problems could have been a case of cartridge mismatches worn pivots or whatnot but the basis of what I experienced Id say that replacing the arm is not merely a to sing best but a must The great advantage of the Lenco is its ability to provide true infinitely variable speed over an extremely wide range making it ideal for those of us who collect acoustic 78s notoriously unstandardized sometimes running as high as 90 or more and usually 78 in name only On the downside the Lenco design has the idler running on the underside of the platter not the rim and if out of adjustment that arrangement can generate truly mindboggling levels of rumble drh Jan 9 2012 11 McLover likes this McLover Forum Resident Location East TN It is in my book essential McLover Jan 9 2012 12 nm_west Forum Resident Location Abq NM USA drh said emphasis added I suppose my problems could have been a case of cartridge mismatches worn pivots or whatnot but the basis of what I experienced Id say that replacing the arm is not merely a to sing best but a must The V blocks are most likely toast Yes a better arm is a must to really hear them sing Steve nm_west Jan 9 2012 13 Tony L Forum Resident Location UK nm_west said The V blocks are most likely toast The L70 arm doesnt have vblocks as its not a knifeedge design it has ball races in both planes Its a very strange design having a pair of springs to balance the arm and apply tracking weight but if in perfect condition it is capable of surprising results Mine pictured earlier on the thread sounds far better than it has any right one would assume from looking at it Id still go for a better more modern more versatile arm if I was using it as a main turntable as the mass and lack of accurate alignment limits cartridge choice Tony L Jan 9 2012 14 McLover likes this Plinko Forum Resident Location usa I agree TonyL With low compliance cartridges the arm is nice Plinko Jan 9 2012 15 fxsuperglide Active Member Thread Starter Location York PA 17402 United States Im still considering the practicality of restoring the original turntable First I have to make sure the motor and associated bushings are still good Then I have to repair the broken stud I have a welder or other means of fixing it Then I have to make sure the 3 motor support springs are the correct tension as well as the idler tension spring for it all to work correctly I believe the latter and possibly the former or both were causing me problems Third finding the original or aftermarket idler tire with metal base not plastic Perhaps way too fxsuperglide Jan 15 2012 16 nm_west Forum Resident Location Abq NM USA fxsuperglide said Im still considering the practicality of restoring the original turntable Definitely a lot to think about but then it cant be any worse than wanting to restore an Oldsmobile Diesel Some owners claim the modded L75 is a giant killer Ive never owned a TT that is considered a Giant but nothing Ive owned sounds as good as the Lenco BTW look for a metal five hole idler wheel Steve nm_west Jan 16 2012 17 Urban Spaceman Forum GoofyFooter Location Shawangunk Mountains To the OP what did you end up doing with your Lenco I have a Bogen B 62 as well Mine didnt need any major work and Ive been enjoying it The stock arm is a bit of a puzzle but Im getting really nice sound from an old Shure cart with a conical stylus I have other Lenco machines that Im planning on modifying but for now Im keeping my B62 stock Chris Urban Spaceman Oct 30 2013 18 McLover likes this McLover Forum Resident Location East TN Yes the metal idler wheel is a major upgrade and less noisy than the plastic idler Very recommended McLover Nov 17 2015 19 mojomojo Active Member Location SFCa I sold a Bogen TT on Ebay and the buyer sent me a dozen emails giving me reports on his progress with restorationI wasnt at all interested in vinyl but after reading his enthusiasm for the idler driveI got hooked Got a Thorens idler and felt the PRAT Anyway using a heavy Lenco platter to make a belt drive TT is like pouring honey inside a fine Swiss watch mojomojo Nov 17 2015 20 McLover likes this Ghostworld Forum Resident Location US nm_west said Some owners claim the modded L75 is a giant killer Ive never owned a TT that is considered a Giant but nothing Ive owned sounds as good as the Lenco Steve The Lenco L75 is a giant The bearing is like something manufactured for industry heavy duty but perfectly machined Super heavy platter It may not be a giant but its a beast Ghostworld Nov 18 2015 21 Thing Fish Stink Fin Location London England Ive posted this pic before but what the heck Its my L75 Lenco with upgraded heavy duty main bearing with MU25 denser than ply plinth twin polished platters and a Linn ittokAdikt bolted on Its the reason I sold my LP12lingo a few years ago and never looked back Thing Fish Nov 18 2015 22 mantis4tons likes this McLover Forum Resident Location East TN The L 70 platter is 8 pounds and change The Lenco motor is also a very serious motor driving that platter That is some serious engineering and build quality going on here This is not something for a rubber band drive application Plinthed properly and in good order with a good quiet idler it is hard to beat Makes a TD 124 look more than a bit cost cut by comparison in the motor and platter department and a tweakers paradise especially for L 75 owners L 70 owners with really nice examples should not hack theirs up they are McLover Nov 18 2015 23 Ghostworld Forum Resident Location US McLover said The L 70 platter is 8 pounds and change The Lenco motor is also a very serious motor driving that platter That is some serious engineering and build quality going on here This is not something for a rubber band drive application Plinthed properly and in good order with a good quiet idler it is hard to beat Makes a TD 124 look more than a bit cost cut by comparison in the motor and platter department and a tweakers paradise especially for L 75 owners L 70 owners with really nice examples should not hack theirs up they are Ive had an L75 sitting on my bedroom floor without an arm for five months now I cant decide if I should just sell it or not Any decent arm is at least three bills which I dont have to spare But its so hard to consider selling because when I gave it the once over I realized how damn well made and hefty this turntable is And running the Turntabulator app on the iphone I got the most accurate 333 speed from it that Ive ever gotten from a table on the first try I have two Sl1700 mk2 Ghostworld Jan 26 2016 24 McLover likes this Mark broadhead WellKnown Member Location Newcastle England I went down this route a couple of years ago I have a GL75 mounted on a 30 kg plinth I had an arm board cut to take a 12 inch arm To cut a long story short I ended up selling the Rock Reference and high spec LP 12 I had been using I expected some rumble from the idler but there is non audible I wish I had discovered it years ago In the end I have a fabulous sounding deck for buttons aside from arm and cartrudge There are plinths available on line and a wealth of information via Lenco Heaven as already mentioned The standard Lenco arm is the real weak link Mark broadhead Jan 26 2016 25 Urban Spaceman and McLover like this You must log in or sign up to reply here Thread Status Not open for further replies Share This Page Home Forums Discussions Audio Hardware | [
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http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/sansui-sp-x-series-speakers-vintage-70s.71095/ | Forums Audio Hardware Sansui SPX Series Speakers Vintage 70s Discussion in Audio Hardware started by Hankster Jan 27 2006 Thread Status Not open for further replies Hankster New Member Thread Starter Location Minneapolis Wisconsin Well all I know is these old babies SPX series from the mid to late 70s are demanding pretty high prices on EBay right now A set of the SPX9900 just sold for 560 and a pair of the SPX9700s are at 500 as we speak So Late last night someone listed a pair of the SPX8000s for 199 buy it now Hmm I couldnt help myself and did it Here they are Sure hope I like em SP X Series These speakers were built during Sansuis heydays between 1975 and 1979 Hankster Jan 27 2006 1 DrJ Forum Resident Location Davis CA USA I cant coment on the SPX series from personal experience but my guess is youre going to be happy My father has a pair of Sansui SP2000s which are very nice he paid drum roll 50 for a MINT pair no shipping as he lived by the guy and picked them up Based on how much I enjoyed hearing those I have a pair of SP3000s on the way should be delivered TODAY At 250 for the pair the 3000s sell for a bit more seem more in demand than the 2000s it was just too hard to pass them up I believe the SP series is a little earlier than the SPX looks like the SPX stuff was made at the peak of the monster amplifier era circa early 70s The SPX stuff looks like its very much the same as the SP stuff in terms of design approach just bigger in keeping with the power wars of that time period Heres some stuff on the SP series Sansui SP series speakers The specs on the SP series are pretty darn solid SP3000s have a sensitivity of 105 dbwatt not just a single point spec either Sansui provides a normal listening conditions testing curve across the frequency spectrum and sensitivity stays in that range pretty much all the way The SP2000s are around 96 or 98 dbwatt as I recall Very tube friendly speakers IMHO great for low wattage output tube gear like my 8 wpc SET 300B Important to me because as good as my Zingali speakers are at 91 dbwatt sensitivity I have basically no head room to occasionally crank I never really thought Id go for speakers with multiple crossovers and a big 15 woofer etc the 2000s have a 12 woofer runs counter to my usual biases but I just love the way the 2000s sounded The presence is amazing and they are a great match for vintage tubes YOU ARE THERE and the midrange is supreme A really nice vintage gear bargain IMHO these Sansui speakers I know there is a major major bias about Japanese speakers on this forum and many others Ive frequented so I would anticipate a series of pans of the SPs and SPXs just on principle But I trust my ears with a vintage 30 wpc Fisher tube amp driving them my dads SP2000s sound FANTASTIC That tom roll right before Wellthe rain exploded line in the title track of Steves BAND ON THE RUN DCC CD literally hit me in the gut and took the wind out of me closest Ive ever heard a speaker come to reproducing the sound Heck at 250 or about 120th of what I paid for my Zingali Overture 2s pair they will if nothing else tide me over until I can afford a pair of Tannoys I think these old boys are really cool looking too DrJ Jan 27 2006 2 Hankster New Member Thread Starter Location Minneapolis Wisconsin What I discovered from some online audio reviews are yes they are very tube friendly dont take much power to drive them dont have the subwoofer kind of bass you would expect from a 16 woofer but the soundstage is spacious and precise Also I am a little concerned about 4 way crossovers too having been schooled 2 way crossover with 500 800 cycles is spot on I have a feeling they will complement ye old HUGE 125 lb Karlson Speakers BIG TIME BASS along with da vintage SS receiver from the same era Anyways they sure look cool and Im having a lot of fun putting together a vintage system without spending a Kings ransom I know there is a major major bias about Japanese speakers on this forum and many others Ive frequented so I would anticipate a series of pans of the SPs and SPXs just on principle But I trust my ears with a vintage 30 wpc Fisher tube amp driving them my dads SP2000s sound FANTASTIC That tom roll right before Wellthe rain exploded line in the title track of Steves BAND ON THE RUN DCC CD literally hit me in the gut and took the wind out of me closest Ive ever heard a speaker come to reproducing the sound Who really gives a dang As long as they aint made in China Hankster Jan 27 2006 3 DrJ Forum Resident Location Davis CA USA Im going to steer clear of that last comment with a 10 foot pole The SP2000s of my dads dont have subwoofer bass and Im not expecting it from the SP3000s even with the 15 woofers But thats OK because I actually hate subwoofer bass I often turn off the subwoofer in our home theater set up It just aint natural to meif I had wanted that I would just have gone ahead and added a sub to my listening rig DrJ Jan 27 2006 4 Hankster New Member Thread Starter Location Minneapolis Wisconsin Subwoofer Rap Fart Can Hankster Jan 27 2006 5 DrJ Forum Resident Location Davis CA USA Got the SP3000s today Nice but I have to say it may be crow eating timeperhaps the rap on Japanese speakers is right on target These are really quite midrangy not much low bass to speak of despite the big woofer Im not talking subwoofer range but really theres very little true bass of any kind more like low midrange Bummer especially because the midrange is indeed fantastic on these YOU ARE THERE and the high end aint bad either And the advertised sensitivity of 105 dbwatt I believe I barely have to turn the volume up on the preamp to get really comfortable listening volume But theyre just way too light on the bottom end So so far kind of disappointedthey dont sound nearly as nice with my gear as they did with my dads SP2000s did with his My Zingalis blow them out of the water bass wise despite having a woofer about 12 the size of that on the Sansuissometimes you never know how good what you got is until you start looking around DrJ Jan 28 2006 6 Hankster New Member Thread Starter Location Minneapolis Wisconsin I hope the new old SPX8000s fit in along with da big Karlson K15s The K15s have fantastic bass but are a little weak in the upper end The plan is run A K15s B X8000s together for that perfect mix Heres an ad for the SP3000s Hankster Jan 29 2006 7 fjhuerta New Member Location México City Tony I had always lusted after a pair of Kenwood speakers my grandma has They have this big 15 woofer two tweeters and the horn midrange plus LPads everywhere I took them home to clean them and to give them back to her obviously what I wanted to do was to listen to them and my impressions were the same as yours The midrange was there the sensitivity was there some highs were even there but bass was absent fjhuerta Jan 29 2006 8 Hankster New Member Thread Starter Location Minneapolis Wisconsin Heres a review of the Sansui X Series Reviewed by Jacques DHondt Audio Enthusiast from Brussels Belgium Price Paid 360 at second hand Product Model Year Pre 1995 Summary First dont blame me if my english suffers from some defaults I am french speaking and thus writing After the reading of all your comments I have thinked that I should absolutely find a pair Its done since only one week ago I own now a pair of Sansui X8000 in nice condition At this time and despite the unusual expansive price for me I have really no regret First impressions The first thing I have noted is the great rigidity of its geant woofer membrane try to push it with your fingers and youll see Nothing to see with the most foam or rubber suspension ring For me this is one of its most remarkable quality but perhaps its biggest flaw for some I explain some have said that they have heard deeper bass coming out from only 10 inches woofer I suppose with foam or rubber suspension Ok at low level but try to play for example StGermain at high level with this sort of woofer the membrane dont know more where she is after the first loud bass sound There is a lot of chance that you just get a infamous soup like almost all these homecinema active subwoofers Its right the X8000 dont extend the deep bass as long as others because of its so rigid membrane but I repeat thats a great and Xrare quality One of my brother is a percusionist So I know very well the real sound of this rich instrumental family Believe me or not but I have never heard before so accurate and realistic restitutions its almost perfect like live sessions Just a little lack of depth or of laxity for the more slack of this family the big kettledrum its always the same explanation Ill be back later for a more extended review on these amazing X8000 I must first let play them all sort of musics In the meantime if you can find a pair of X8000 or an equivalent around or under 400 in a nice condition dont hesitate one second get them Philisophical conversation but finally perhaps less that it seems Like humans cars and hifi gears we know all here that they are bad good and excellent speakers A Jeep and a Rolls can both give great satisfactions but generally not in the same context In the same idea I think that none speaker can play all perfectly and this without talk about the subjective side of the thing I know people how have spent a lot of bucks to acquire so called top hifi gears They try to convince themselves that they have reached the Audio Nirvana But sorry men and women none of these monsters make me feel enthousiast all the time and sometimes not at all There are so many linked and evolutive factors thats practically impossible to get all from one orthodox installation Quality of recording kind of music room characterictics levels genetics age education personal taste mood atmoshere moment circumstances etc Do you think that you can fine tune all these factors with just one pair of speakers and without speaking about the others links Even the Audio Nirvana owners dont think that possible Otherwise why most of them spent continiously others bucks in expansive accessories like highend cables filters converters and regularly change the position of their speakers when it is not downright the cover of walls or even their house You can certainly get great music with just one pair But not all the time and certainly not for all the music all the spectrum and all the people perhaps you in a few months of years In my case all my gears and speakers are second hand and most often vintage models I have never bought new ones its against my modest wallet but thanks force me to try others roads as often in that case And nevertheless I own more than 15 pairs of speakers almost all bought between 5 and 100 and as much amplifiers integrated or receivers I have tested one by one almost all the associations The results are very different Some are bad others just correct certain good to beautiful and a few really amazing But never I have found THE system reached the my total satisfaction all the way I have also tried with two pairs on the same gear Some results are very good and even best than with just one pair But you know the difficulty to erase or to balance the differences caused by the sensibility the impedance and when desired the coloration I have speakers with very good and tight bass but wretched mids and highs and others rather with opposite qualities Playing together on the same gear you get the best of each one but unfortunately also the worse because you can not equalize them separately Obviously I could disassemble them and then reassemble the good parts together But its not so easy filter and case problems the results are uncertain and probably sometimes worse Moreover I am not a speaker manufacturer and above all I dont want to modify or disfigure these charming old babies So no simple solution Maybe this time this way and sorry for the purist I have linked all my sources on one gear and then linked this first to another and sometimes even more thru monitors inputoutput line level Then you have understand I can now link different speakers to different gears with the obvious consequence that I can also equalize them separately Ok I can not totally erase some defaults but I promise that you can now reach unbelievable and varied summits with a tiny investment Just one word about equalization I know men who the less there is of buttons on a gear the more they are ready to pay dearly I call this a nonsense a purist attitude Do they imagine how much the sounds they hear thru their highend equipment are so far from the reality they want they search and they pay for The reality here of the music has nothing to see with the money and the principes Why do we must get the music with all the modifications or defaults accumulated from the mike to the speakers mike quality and specificity sound taking mixage studio equalization yes they do it mastering And then at home your sources amplifier preamplifier and finally your speakers aah yes I forgot all the wires And I dont speak about all these old remasterized recording I like Jazz and have a lot of exatcly the same recording on vinyl and on CD I let you guess which are mostly the best Fortunately on these old good gears there is a lot of buttons and filters which help us to recreate our originals sounds in function of our memories our taste our being Note that once my tuning is done I listen to the music not to my walls gears sources cables speakers and whatever elselike many but not all more fortunated In one of these reviews someone complaints about the too many drivers in the X8000 Honestly has it concluded this with just his ears I really doubt about Sometimes I let play up to six speakers pairs toghether And if I can easely hear the difference when I switch them onoff in all the combinations I can never exactly say how many drivers are playing Oohh dear there is really very happy wedding and not only to my ears Its just my experience and I share it If you have at least two pairs of speakers give them and you a chance to play in duet Its authorized amusing indeed even exciting and absolutely free I use standard electrical wires for my tests When one has too much money or in more general too much means one often loses a part of its imagination and its personality Simply because one uses them less or because the others use that one more At your speakers humans Strengths For me the greatest quality is without any doubt the general superb keeping of the membranes medium and woofer Bass are very tight Also sharp and accurate highs Weaknesses The other side of the medal I mean relatively dry medium and bass but not cold at all Similar Products Used A lot of vintage speakers from Kef BW Philips Jamo Canton AR etc Hankster Jan 29 2006 9 DrJ Forum Resident Location Davis CA USA Well I hope your SPXs work out better for you than my SPs did Hankster I cant imagine that a very immaculate pair of MC30s like mine wouldnt have enough oomph to drive the 15 woofer so I can only conclude that the SP3000s themselves just dont reproduce bass well despite the impressive cone Your mileage may vary and who knows maybe a mega watt output amp will do the trick paired with the SPXs Keep us posted DrJ Jan 29 2006 10 Hankster New Member Thread Starter Location Minneapolis Wisconsin Well I discovered the seller listed his item earlier and reserve wasnt met Anyways he described more about how they sound with his earlier listing Heres his take I agree with first reviewer here most others too but Bass may depend very much on your amp The great thing about these speakers is they are great for refined listening as well as rock where it may be preferable to supliment with a fast subwoofer You can get all the sound pressure you want at 99db sensitivity even from a lesser powered amp and get exceptionally sounding rock Never turn any amp into clipping but I believe these are also exceptionally durable I see eBay sellers try to sell individual Sansui drivers removed from questionable cabinets most likely and Hankster Jan 29 2006 11 gener8tr Forum Resident Location Vancouver WA USA I have a pair of vintage SPX7s and they are FANTASTIC for rock metal that I constantly play They are lacking a bit in the bass department compared to my original Advent Loudspeakers but most in that price range are The Advents are special that way I can tell you this I would NOT sell my SPX7s if someone were to offer me 50000 because I really enjoy the look and sound Good find youre gonna love em gener8tr Feb 3 2006 12 Hankster New Member Thread Starter Location Minneapolis Wisconsin Two big boxes sitting by the front door yesterday Christmas again Had to hook em up right away At this point I can say the Sansui SPX8000s sound very crisp and clean BASS These speakers lack in that department at least at low power levels BUT having a pair of HUGE old school big time bass speakers below this babies the Sansuis seem very small and running em together music sounds about perfect Pics of system to be posted later So my take of these speakers You got to have some serious woofers subwoofers running along with these Sansuis to get great sound from 20 to 20000 cycles Not sure if my hearing is that good Anyways I wouldnt be happy with these Sansuis without other monster bass speakers to even things out Hankster Feb 4 2006 13 indy mike Forum Pest Location Somewhere in the middle The missing bass is partially due to the small size of the box for such a large driver that box is under 3 cu ft internal volume The anechoic response curve is pretty flat down to 70 hz then rolls off pretty rapidly after that The woofer cone is probabaly pretty light with a stiff suspension with a short throw that would help th sensitivity rating indy mike Feb 4 2006 14 Hankster New Member Thread Starter Location Minneapolis Wisconsin Yup really small boxes for 16 woofers When it comes to BASS size does matter Pretty hard to get around that one Hankster Feb 4 2006 15 DrJ Forum Resident Location Davis CA USA Hankster similar to my experience with the SP3000s But Im not interested in running a sub or 2 sets of speakers right now So theyre parked for now And thanks for weighing in on these Indy Mike this has been my suspicion too VERY small boxes for these size woofers Maybe someday as a learningfun project Ill try building a bigger box for the Sansui conesdrivers DrJ Feb 6 2006 16 Hankster New Member Thread Starter Location Minneapolis Wisconsin Hmm Just what Ive been thinking larger cabinets They do pump up the volume pretty good Wonder if the old How to build speaker enclosures from the late 60s will help me tune the bass reflex port Hankster Feb 6 2006 17 You must log in or sign up to reply here Thread Status Not open for further replies Share This Page Forums Audio Hardware | [
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http://forums.superchevy.com/chevy-high-performance/70/8572396/general-chevy-discussion/chevy-vortec-l31/ | 1 2 Last Item Posts Sort Order Chevy Vortec L31 1967_c10 I love my Chevy Chevette ! Posts : 2 Joined : 03 / 11 Posted : 03 / 06 / 11 09 : 34 AM Hello to all members . I ' m new to the forum , but have been reading the magazine for years . I have access to a 1998 chevy vortec 350 ( code name L31 ) . I am wondering if this motor is a good base to start building upon . Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated Post Reply tuffnuff Moderator Posts : 7841 Joined : 12 / 09 Posted : 03 / 06 / 11 09 : 45 AM Yes , by all means get it , if the price is right . copy / paste The Vortec 5700 L31 is a V8 truck engine . Displacement is 5.7 L . It is the last production Generation I small - block from Chevrolet . The cylinder heads feature combustion chambers very similar to those of the LT1 V8 , but without the reverse - flow cooling . As such , the L31 head is compatible with all older small - blocks , and is a very popular upgrade . It offers the performance of more expensive heads , at a much lower cost . It does , however , require a specific intake manifold ( a When The Flag Drops . , . The Bull * * * t Stops . , . P . Engineer , Engine Builder Post Reply 1967_c10 I love my Chevy Chevette ! Posts : 2 Joined : 03 / 11 Posted : 03 / 06 / 11 10 : 15 AM That ' s really god news . I can get the motor for $ 300.00 . The seller also wants to sell me a Comp Cams Thumpr cam , and full roller valve train , RPM Airgap Manifold , double roller timing chain ( all from Comp Cams ) and a MSD Hei distributor , MSD 6A with an Edlebrock # 1405 600cfm carb , all for $ 1500.00 Does all this seem sound ? For now I plan to keep the bottom end stock and the heads stock , but with the bee hive springs , locks and roller tips . Am I on the right track with this . The motor will eventually go into a 1967 Chevy C10 pickup tuffnuff Moderator Posts : 7841 Joined : 12 / 09 Posted : 03 / 06 / 11 11 : 36 AM All sounds good , except the carb will be about 100 CFM short , to feed your combo . When The Flag Drops . , . The Bull * * * t Stops . , . P . Engineer , Engine Builder Pontiacman2 Posts : 8956 Joined : 09 / 08 Posted : 03 / 06 / 11 01 : 20 PM Which thumper cam ? Professional Hi - performance engine builder 67 . c10 Posts : 9 Posted : 03 / 06 / 11 09 : 27 PM Sorry about not responding sooner . For some reason , I could not log on my current user name . I had to reregister . In answer to your question , I have the TR283 Thumpr Cam . I was wondering if a Holley 3310 - 9 750cfm carb with vacum advance would work for my application , since someone posted that I was about 100 cgm short , using an Edelbrock # 1405 600 cfm carb chevelle83 I mow my lawn and find Chevys Posts : 2280 Joined : 11 / 09 Posted : 03 / 06 / 11 10 : 15 PM the eddy 600 will work just fine , , it will just leave some power on the table as far as maximum power is concerned . but eddy makes a 750 too , the holley will be good as well . Pontiacman2 Posts : 8956 Joined : 09 / 08 Posted : 03 / 07 / 11 07 : 13 AM Ok if I looked upthe right cam it has a .513 / .498 lift and with work but will leave some power on the table . Also if using factory vortec heads you will need to have the guide bosses machined for proper clearance . Yes the Holley 750 3310 willl work very well with this setup for peak performance but if peak performance is not a concern the edelbrock 600 will be ok . Professional Hi - performance engine builder 67 . c10 Posts : 9 Posted : 03 / 07 / 11 10 : 36 AM I had no idea the guide bosses would require reworking , for this application . I contacted CompCams about this . They informed me that their setup would not require more work on the heads . I tend to trust you guys a little more , beacause , you folks live and breathe horsepower . The kit the guy is trying to sell me comes with bee hive springs , titanium locks , push rods , roller tips and roller rockers , and the cam . The other question I have for you guys is , what should the timing Posted : 03 / 07 / 11 11 : 43 AM Ok the clearance issue on factory vortecs is the guide to retainer clearance they are only good to a max of 450 lift . Posted : 03 / 07 / 11 11 : 50 AM This leads us to valvesprings , which require the most attention in a performance application . Since this is an OEM iron head , GM designed the valve guide to also serve as the inside diameter ( id ) locating device for the valvesprings . The guide ? s large diameter acts like a sleeve that keeps the single - wire valvespring located > > properly . The guide is also machined at the top to mount a positive - style , 0.560 - inch - diameter valve - guide seal . All of this conspires to limit total valve Accommodating more valve lift requires modifications to the valvespring seat and valve - guide areas of the head . The best route is to increase the spring - seat diameter from the standard 1.25 inches to 1.440 inches . Both Comp and Crane offer tools that use a valve - guide arbor to position the cutter . The Comp Cams cutter increases the spring - seat diameter while simultaneously reducing the outside diameter ( od ) of the guide boss . The Crane tool also cuts the valve - guide - seal diameter at the same time . Comp sells Once these machining operations have been completed , you have the choice of several aftermarket valvesprings to match your cam profile . These machining operations will produce enough clearance to allow between 0.525 - and 0.550 - inch valve lift before running into valvespring coil - bind . Given a 1.440 - inch valvespring seat diameter , Comp and Crane offer several single and dual springs that will work with the stock valves . Posted : 03 / 07 / 11 01 : 50 PM + 1 Yep . , . seems there ' s always more than meets the eye . Trick is to do it right or not at all . Or Do n ' t even start Posted : 03 / 07 / 11 02 : 27 PM You got that right ! Posted : 03 / 08 / 11 02 : 35 PM Thanks a bunch fellas . You dudes are awsome ! ! . I should have joined the forum a long time ago . I will go ahead with the purchase and post the motor , once I ' m done with it . Dave632 I mow my lawn and find Chevys Posts : 2253 Joined : 07 / 08 Posted : 03 / 08 / 11 02 : 44 PM That ' s great , the LS series motors are becoming very popular with the hot rod set . As they become more and more available the price for mods has come down more too . There was an 5.3 LS put in a 72 Nova in the April issue of CHP . It ran 8.59 @ 81 NA which is about 13.40 - 13.50 in the 1 / 4 . This is very respectable performance and they claimed that the salvage yard motor / trans plus the aftermarket electronics to make it work came to only 2500 . [ [ SUPPORT AMERICAN CARS , STOMP A RICE CAR TODAY . ] ] 1 2 Last | [
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http://forums.support.roxio.com/topic/121008-no-video-signal/ | All Activity Home Gaming Capture Products Easy VHS to DVD 3 Plus Video Capture and Output No Video Signal Whos Online 1 Member 0 Anonymous 9 Guests See full list Brendon 0 Sign in to follow this 2 No Video Signal Asked by Al R Question Al R Newbie Members 2 9 posts Report post Posted December 12 2015 I bought the Roxio VHS to DVD 3installed it I went to use it in my Samsung 8MM video camerait has an AV out port I set it all up and went to transfer onto DVD nothing happens no video signal Reading some posts here i checked device manager under the SoundsVideo and game controllers it does not show Roxio Video Capture USB or USB Audio device My computer does not seem to recognise it I have a Dell 64 bitwindows 81 windows updates are up to date graphics up to date Sort by votes Sort by date 0 ogdens Digital Guru Digital Guru 82 7569 posts Gender Male Location Lucknow Ontario Canada Report post Posted December 12 2015 Did you plug in the capture device BEFORE you installed the program Remove the device Insert your installation disc Do a repair or reinstall and then plug in the USB device 0 cdanteek Digital Guru Digital Guru 217 23413 posts Gender Male Location Prairie Rapids Crossing Report post Posted December 12 2015 In Device Manager expand sound video and game controller and other devices do a screen capture and post the jpg image here 0 Al R Newbie Members 2 9 posts Report post Posted December 12 2015 edited I did not insert the capture device first as the instructions in the book do not specify that step one is to insert the installation disc I have attached a screenshot of the device manager I do not see other devices Edited December 12 2015 by Al R 0 Al R Newbie Members 2 9 posts Report post Posted December 13 2015 edited I popped in the CD to see if it had a repair option but didnt see any i have revo uninstaller so i went to uninstall roxio then i saw the repair option was there so i chose that Did the repair no change I thought i would try the device in my other laptop it loaded ok and showed it in the my pc location so that tells me at least the device is ok I checked the device manager under the SoundsVideo and game controllers it does not show Roxio Video Capture USB or USB Audio device Going back to my other pc i have roxio installed on iI pulled out one of my other devices in a USB port and tried the device in that one it loaded ok and it showed in the my pc location I checked the device manager under the SoundsVideo and game controllers it does not show Roxio Video Capture USB or USB Audio device I hooked up the camera and tried to see if it would work but still no video signal After i remove the device and plug it back in nothing happens it does not show I tried the movie camera on my television and it worked on that so that tells me it is capable of putting out the signal and cables and connections are ok Edited December 13 2015 by Al R 0 sknis Digital Guru Digital Guru 216 24123 posts Gender Male Location El Lago TX Report post Posted December 13 2015 You are trying to use an underpowered USB port or HUB 0 Al R Newbie Members 2 9 posts Report post Posted December 13 2015 edited I switched USB ports and that made no differencei mention that in my last postso what do you consider a properly powered USB surely a Dell computer just over a year old would have a proper powered USB port This computer laptop has 4 black USB ports the Roxio device is white USB connector as far as understand it should work in a black USB port and doesnt require a 30 port Edited December 13 2015 by Al R 0 Jim_Hardin Digital Guru Digital Guru 418 30721 posts Gender Male Report post Posted December 13 2015 AI R I have been following along but not chimed in until now The power output varies for the ports on a Dell some offer the higher milliamps to power devices and the difference is that some are double the power of others on their laps Of course USB 3 will accept and work with any USB 2 device so dont leave them out Another power issue is trying to run on internal battery vs outlet and power adapter You said you tried it on another Lap On there you say it shows up under my pc location No idea what that is in the Device Manager I looked on my PCs and dont see anything of that title Of course the USB device has to be plugged into the Lap in order for it to show up in the Device Manger I realize that some of this you might know but just need to make sure we are on the same page With the USB device plugged in your Device Manager must look like this Without those 2 entries it isnt going to happen One is not enough and there should not be one with Exclamation Mark like you see in my picture by Multimedia Video Controller subsequently resolved Is that what your other Lap looks like How about this one 0 Al R Newbie Members 2 9 posts Report post Posted December 13 2015 edited Thanks for the reply I always use AC power I guess i got the name wrong it is called this PC usually when i plug anything in a USB port it shows up there I have enclosed a screen shot with the device plugged in also a screen shot of the device manager with the device plugged in The device does not show up at all Dell laptop As i said yesterday i tried the device in my other Acer laptop in the blue USB port i assume that is a 30 When i plugged it in it showed in the this PC screen and looked like it was loading itself I came back to this laptop Dell and tried the device in another USB port and it showed in this PC and looked like it was loading but if i remember it went away and i did not see it in this PC I tried the Roxio program again but no signal from the camcorder This morning i plugged it back in that same port blue 30 and nothing showed Acer laptop Just now i plugged it in againAcer laptop blue USB nothing showed and i checked the device manager and under SoundsVideo and game controllers neither one of those two items in your screenshot shows A friend mentioned about getting powered USB hubdo you think this might help Hope i havent confused you Edited December 13 2015 by Al R 0 myguggi Digital Guru Digital Guru 131 14106 posts Gender Male Report post Posted December 13 2015 Forget about this PC or whether the USB port is blue or white or black that is irrelevant to your problem The Roxio USB device is USB 20 and will work on any USB 2 or USB 3 port Until you get the 2 entries show up in the Device Manager as indicated the software will not work 0 ogdens Digital Guru Digital Guru 82 7569 posts Gender Male Location Lucknow Ontario Canada Report post Posted December 13 2015 Try running your Revo Uninstaler in Moderate Mode Then turn off your Anti Virus Firewalls Registry Cleaners etc Reboot then insert your Roxio Disc and reinstall When the install completes turn your AV Firewall back on and reboot 0 Al R Newbie Members 2 9 posts Report post Posted December 13 2015 Sort of getting mixed messages about the USB port you say not to worry about it someone says its not working because the USB is underpowered Who is right Also i look in the this PC to see if the computer recognizes it the device and it i connectsif i can not see that then how would i know i could look for those 2 entries in device manager all day I know they are spose to be there but i also need to know if the devise is connected I have the revo uninstaller the only thing that worries me isif i remember right i had roxio installed on a computer many many years ago and i removed it and it affected that computer badly once removed I have started remove Roxio but got this message so didnt proceed Direct X Runtime is installed in the same location as Roxio Easy VHS to DVD 3 Leftovers will be found from both applications Carefully check the ones you want to remove I will try the un install and see how it goes then reinstall as you suggest Thanks everyone for the suggestionshopefully it will go ok 0 myguggi Digital Guru Digital Guru 131 14106 posts Gender Male Report post Posted December 13 2015 On December 13 2015 at 203 PM Al R said Sort of getting mixed messages about the USB port you say not to worry about it someone says its not working because the USB is underpowered Who is right Also i look in the this PC to see if the computer recognizes it the device and it i connectsif i can not see that then how would i know i could look for those 2 entries in device manager all day I know they are spose to be there but i also need to know if the devise is connected Whether the connector is white USB 1 blackUSB 2 or blueUSB 3 has nothing to do with whether the USB port is underpowered or not Some devices such as USB sticks do not require much power and will work on all USB ports External USB hard drives on the other hand require much more power and will only work on ports that supply enough power Just because This PC shows the device to be connected that does not mean that the correct drivers have been loaded That is what the Device Manager indicates 0 Al R Newbie Members 2 9 posts Report post Posted December 13 2015 I have un installed Roxio i will re install it later as per instructions While i appreciate your comments re the USB ports and i have learned from them maybe it is all irrelevantbut you have no suggestion as how to correct the problem of the drivers not loading What is relevant and what i am trying to do is get the drivers loaded that is why i am here because i cant i have tried and tried and they will not load The only option i have is to do the reinstall as instructed above 0 cdanteek Digital Guru Digital Guru 217 23413 posts Gender Male Location Prairie Rapids Crossing Report post Posted December 14 2015 Unplug the Roxio USB Device reboot the PC When its up and running shut down all running programs including antivirus and firewall software Now run the installation disc and reboot the PC open the software program and plugin the USB device Does it work 0 Al R Newbie Members 2 9 posts Report post Posted December 14 2015 I uninstalled Roxio with revo uninstallerturned off firewall and anti virus Rebooted then installed the roxio softwarewhen finished turned firewall and anti virus back on then rebooted Opened the software program Plugged in the usb devise no change the drivers do not show up in the SoundsVideo and game controllers Still shows the same as in the above screenshot i uploaded earlier of device manager I think its hopeless maybe its a defective device anything i have ever plugged into a usb had no problem showing I notice with the device plugged in it gets warn not sure if thats indicative of anything 1 0 Al R Newbie Members 2 9 posts Report post Posted December 15 2015 Well i got tired of this Roxio not working it seems all suggestions have been exhausted I went out and bought a Honestech VHS TO DVD 80 Put in CD installed that then hooked up their device to computer and camcorder and it worked right away In Soundsvideo and Game Controllers it shows their HT VIDBOX NW06 driver Dont know what was wrong with that Roxio one but something was it was like pulling teeth trying to get it to work i will be getting a refund tomorrow and never recommend Roxio Looking at many of the posts it seems to be a very hard thing to get to work But i do thank everyone for the suggestions i do appreciate that it is nice when there are people willing to help when things go wrong 1 This topic is now closed to further replies Go To Question Listing Video Capture and Output All Activity Home Gaming Capture Products Easy VHS to DVD 3 Plus Video Capture and Output No Video Signal | [
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http://forums.swedespeed.com/showthread.php?147871-My-AM-Radio-doesn-t-work-(FM-works-PERFECTLY)-it-started-fading-then-nothing-no-signal-What-do-I-do | Welcome to SwedeSpeed You ' re currently browsing Swedespeed as a guest . Please sign up or sign in and take part in the conversation with other Volvo owners and enthusiasts . With more than 2 million posts our community is one of the most active groups of Volvo owners in the world . Take a moment to sign up and enjoy all of the features our forums have to offer . Forum FWD & AWD Volvos S40 & V50 ( 2005 - 2012 ) My AM Radio does n ' t work ( FM works PERFECTLY ) , it started fading , then nothing , no signal . What do I do ? Results 1 to 31 of 31 Thread : My AM Radio does n ' t work ( FM works PERFECTLY ) , it started fading , then nothing , no signal . What do I do ? Thread Tools 11 - 11 - 2010 , 12 : 10 AM # 1 m4gician Member Join Date Jun 2010 Location Toronto , Ontario , Canada Posts 1,816 My AM Radio does n ' t work ( FM works PERFECTLY ) , it started fading , then nothing , no signal . What do I do ? Hey guys , Maybe some of you have had this problem , but here is mine : 2005 V50 T5 AWD - Premium audio w / Dolby Prologic II ( no sub ) . - listening to AM radio all the time , no issues - get in car this morning , AM signal is weak on all stations , fading , max volume only had a little sound - AM radio completely fades away shortly after . - no AM signal at all , none . - I start car after 1 hour , nothing - I park car for 4 hours and I get PERFECT AM signal , listening to news , sports , everything . - I try changing it back an hour later after parking , NOTHING . FM 1 and FM2 come through VERY clearly What are the issues here ? Is it software ? My antenna has not been stolen ( it ' s still there ) , it ' s not dislodged or anything . Is it wiring ? Is something fried ? How much would this cost ? Anyone else have this issue ? SOLD : 2005 V50 T5 AWD - Metallic Silver 426 - ELEVATE Stage I Tune - ELEVATE Rear Sway Bar - VIVA Performance Front Strut Bar - iPd Front Stabilizer Links - EuroSportTuning Drop - in Filter - Volvo 18 ' Medusa Wheels - Volvo R - Design Steering Wheel - Full LED Conversion Sponsored Links Remove Advertisements Advertisements 11 - 11 - 2010 , 05 : 48 AM # 2 ard5040 Junior Member Join Date Feb 2010 Location New City , NY Posts 82 I ' ve had the same problem on my 04 V70 for about a year and a half . Dealer could n ' t find anything wrong . Still living with it . 06 : 02 AM # 3 Crito Member Aug 2009 Pueblo , CO 1,137 Solar flares emit radio frequencies in the AM band . The fallacy of false causation : Just because the rooster crows each morning before the sun comes up does n ' t prove roosters can magically control the rising of the sun . And while I ' m at it . If you put a bowling and then a tennis ball on a trampoline , thereby warping the fabric of spacetime , a magical mystery force called gravity will NOT emanate from the bowling ball drawing the tennis ball towards it . Sponsored Links Remove Advertisements SwedeSpeed . com Advertisements 10 : 54 AM # 4 stealth Jul 2009 MD 3,018 If I * EVER * hear my dealer say that , I think I will die of laughter on the spot . ' Well you see , what you have here is an issue with solar flares knocking your car out of whack . Not covered under warranty . ' SOLD : 2005 Silver S40 T5 AWD M66 FS : 225 / 40 / 18 Toyo T1R on 18x8 Gloss Black OZ Ultraleggera | | 205 / 50 / 17 Hankook Icebear W300 on 17x7 TDR 1.2 11 : 27 AM # 5 Rocky SDS 09 Junior Member Apr 2009 Colorado Springs 655 " Errr , the Electron Plasma frequency is disrupted by the space - time continuum in form of Plasma Oscillations due to those pesky solar flares . As the Radial Distance from the sun intersects with the Frequency at the exact moment the Electron Plasma Frequency hyperbole collides with Solar Flare Electrons , it creates a catastrophic ripple in your AM receiving abilities . That Sir , will be $ 1,200 for a new head - unit , not covered under COP " ROCKY SDS MOD ' D 0 5 S 4 0 T 5 A W D M 6 6 WWW . REV V OLUTION . COM » My Revvolution Profile 12 : 35 PM # 6 m4gician Jun 2010 Toronto , Ontario , Canada 1,816 Originally Posted by ard5040 I ' ve had the same problem on my 04 V70 for about a year and a half . Dealer could n ' t find anything wrong . Still living with it . Mine came back ONCE and has n ' t yet . I ca n ' t live with it , I get all my traffic , news and sports on AM radio . I ' m a huge baseball guy and during driving I like hearing the broadcast . god damnit . Originally Posted by Crito Solar flares emit radio frequencies in the AM band . The fallacy of false causation : Just because the rooster crows each morning before the sun comes up does n ' t prove roosters can magically control the rising of the sun . And while I ' m at it . If you put a bowling and then a tennis ball on a trampoline , thereby warping the fabric of spacetime , a magical mystery force called gravity will NOT emanate from the bowling ball drawing the tennis ball towards it . stealth If I * EVER * hear my dealer say that , I think I will die of laughter on the spot . ' Well you see , what you have here is an issue with solar flares knocking your car out of whack . Not covered under warranty . ' I sure hope you clowns are right and this is just temporary . . .but WTF lol . How much will it cost to repair this ? I have no warranty . My extended already expired . Rocky SDS 09 " Errr , the Electron Plasma frequency is disrupted by the space - time continuum in form of Plasma Oscillations due to those pesky solar flares . As the Radial Distance from the sun intersects with the Frequency at the exact moment the Electron Plasma Frequency hyperbole collides with Solar Flare Electrons , it creates a catastrophic ripple in your AM receiving abilities . That Sir , will be $ 1,200 for a new head - unit , not covered under COP " I hope this is not accurate . . .i ca n ' t afford that . Last edited by m4gician ; 11 - 11 - 2010 at 12 : 43 PM SOLD : 2005 V50 T5 AWD - Metallic Silver 426 - ELEVATE Stage I Tune - ELEVATE Rear Sway Bar - VIVA Performance Front Strut Bar - iPd Front Stabilizer Links - EuroSportTuning Drop - in Filter - Volvo 18 ' Medusa Wheels - Volvo R - Design Steering Wheel - Full LED Conversion 01 : 09 PM # 7 dlk1 Nov 2009 547 There was a TNN for this that involved the dealer installing a flux - capacitor . 03 : 23 PM # 8 Apr 2009 Colorado Springs 655 " There ' s a direct correlation between the flux - capacitor and the space - time continuum . It MUST be right ! " HA , I ' m just playin , and I have no idea how much it will cost . ROCKY SDS MOD ' D S 4 T A W D M WWW . REV V OLUTION . COM » My Revvolution Profile 03 : 34 PM # 9 aldebaran Moderator Jul 2005 Greensboro NC 2,985 Maybe your parking garage is acting as a Faraday cage for AM signals ? AM reception is very sensitive to orientation of the antenna too . Unless of course , ceteris paribus , you ' ve always had good reception there until recently . Oh have you noticed any recent burst of activity in the Aurora Borealis ? That would support the Solar Flare eruption theory causing disruption in the AM band . Last edited by aldebaran ; 11 - 11 - 2010 at 03 : 38 PM Melvin 2014 XC60 RD 2006 S60R 2004.5 S40 - Sold 11 - 12 - 2010 , 01 : 56 AM # 10 Guys im serious , has anyone else had this problem ? I called the volvo dealer , they said they ' d install a brass strip on my radio system . It upsets me that they ' ll find some way to charge me an arm and a leg for it . 11 - 12 - 2010 , 08 : 56 AM # 11 lol , sorry for the fun , m4gician . . . could n ' t help it This is weird tho . . This past weekend , my transmission totally cut out on BOTH sides ( FM & AM ) . However , what I did notice was the fact that my new LED ' s were causing the interference ! Whenever I turned on my OH domes , the signal would cut in half ( FM ) . I ca n ' t imagine what it would ' ve done to my AM . . I rarely use it , so did n ' t check . However , knowing a little about AM transmission and Something to look into 12 : 49 PM # 12 msmith Sep 2009 Ottawa ( Kanata ) , Canada 870 Do you have anything aftermarket in your car ? I have Sirius Satelite and when first installed , it was using an FM broadcast to my factory head unit , which for some reason totally distroyed my AM signal . Not sure why , but my AM went all to hell . Now I ' m hardwired into a Parrot and it still sucks . Static and crackling . No more listening to SENS hockey games on AM . Wish I could help , but I ' m kinda in the same boat . Keep us up to date if you find something . In the driveway : 2012 S60 T6 AWD | Black / Beechwood | Premium / Climate / Convenience Packages | BLIS | Sunroof | Active Bending Bi - Xenon | iPd Skid Plate | TFT DIM upgrade ( mine ) , . . . Former - 2006 S40 2.4i M56 2009 Acura RDX & 1995 Celica GT Convertible ( wife ) , 2012 Honda Civic LX ( daughter ) , 2017 GMC Sierra SLE | Elevation Edition | Crew Cab ( son 01 : 10 PM # 13 tmtalpey Global Moderator Jun 2004 Eastern MA 8,580 My antenna has not been stolen ( it ' s still there ) , it ' s not dislodged or anything . Is it wiring ? You do know that the antennas in the V50 are the grid on the glass on the right rear , yes ? Are they intact and are the wires that disappear up under the headliner ok ? 2005 V50 T5 AWD 6MT w / Heico tune , Heico exhaust , Bell intercooler , IPD TCV , Viva Forge CBV , Elevate rear swaybar and torque mount , Snabb shift kit , etc . 2016 XC60 T6 AWD 1956 PV444 complete , running 1956 PV444 very original , very rough 01 : 53 PM # 14 tmtalpey You do know that the antennas in the V50 are the grid on the glass on the right rear , yes ? Are they intact and are the wires that disappear up under the headliner ok ? I ' ll double check this . But it ' s strange that only the AM would go out . I will check . I ' ve searched and people are saying the radio unit needs replacing as something burnt out there . . . 01 : 54 PM # 15 dlk1 Nov 2009 547 msmith Do you have anything aftermarket in your car ? I have Sirius Satelite and when first installed , it was using an FM broadcast to my factory head unit , which for some reason totally distroyed my AM signal . Not sure why , but my AM went all to hell . Now I ' m hardwired into a Parrot and it still sucks . Static and crackling . No more listening to SENS hockey games on AM . Same here after installing the Dice FM - USB modulator . Only the strongest AM stations come in and there is static . What has been especially confusing is that to try and troubleshoot where the issue is coming from , I disconnected power and signal from the modulator and connected the motorola antenna cables going to and from the modulator ( from the 9 volt connectors on the glass ) to each other , in effect restoring the direct link from the window antenna into the antenna amp and to the head unit . Even this did not help I wish I could get it solved as I also listen to AM ( news , traffic and yess , hockey ) . 01 : 57 PM # 16 Another thought as this pertains to the FM mod screwing up the AM signal is if there is a way to tap into the secondary FM diversity antenna on the rear window on a V50 for the modulator signal . I know it uses the same wires on the glass as the rear defogger , so I ' m guessing this would be difficult to impossible . 07 : 32 PM # 17 x - omatic Feb 2009 357 I have a 2006 S40 T5 FWD with Premium audio w / Dolby Prologic II ( no sub ) and have n ' t had any AM signal in about 1 year . My FM works fine but AM get nothing at all . 10 : 57 PM # 18 x - omatic I have a 2006 S40 T5 FWD with Premium audio w / Dolby Prologic II ( no sub ) and have n ' t had any AM signal in about 1 year . My FM works fine but AM get nothing at all . I called the dealer , I have to go in on Monday . . . sucks ! ! ! 11 - 15 - 2010 , 01 : 27 AM # 19 slrising Feb 2009 PNW 2,108 OP , do you have an FM modulator installed ? If so the added impedence is likely the cause of your AM problem . If not its probably the AFM ( Signal Amplifier ) is on its last legs . 2009 V50 T5 AWD GT : Work in progress ( 1 ) ( 2 ) ( 3 11 - 15 - 2010 , 02 : 14 AM # 20 no , i have EVERYTHING stock . AFM eh ? I ' ll look that up . 02 : 26 AM # 21 slrising OP , do you have an FM modulator installed ? If so the added impedence is likely the cause of your AM problem . If not its probably the AFM ( Signal Amplifier ) is on its last legs . Thanks for the tip Scott . I ' m going to go into the dealer and let them install their " brass fitting " if that does n ' t work , I ' m going to order this part number for the AFM ( volvo 30737918 ) BRILLIANT PDF write - up here : http : / / volvo . philipfotos . com / English . . .ll _ver_6_5 . pdf As well here is the TNN and part no . ask dealer to look up TNN # 39 - 35 and give you a copy , if purchased . part # 30657370 is the part number for that brass antenna tab . Last edited by m4gician ; 11 - 15 - 2010 at 12 : 56 PM 11 - 16 - 2010 , 01 : 20 PM # 22 So I called the dealer , first off I think all you need to work at a dealership around where I live is being able to spell the word " d - e - a - l - e - r - s - h - i - p " Anyways they told me that if there ' s an issue with the AM radio , they need to diagnose it and plug into the car because it ' ll store a fault code . I ask " okay sir , where do you plug in , the OBD port ? " He says , yes , there . I tell him that typically does n ' t store faults of a failing AFM module but i say okay how much is it . " $ 100 to diagnose , and then whatever the parts and problem are , we charge again for those " So I ask , is it typically the AFM module located in the rear that converts the signal ( as per my previous post ) . He says no typically it ' s the IAM module ( i ' ll take his word for it ) but he does n ' t know how much it ' ll cost because all of the jobs he ' s done are typically covered under warranty . I ask him , please find out as I want to know if it ' s worth it to me to fix . He then comes $ 140 - $ 40 for the part - $ 100 for the labour . . . .FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU I ' m going in tomorrow . 11 - 16 - 2010 , 10 : 22 PM # 23 Global Moderator Jun 2004 Eastern MA 8,580 Anyways they told me that if there ' s an issue with the AM radio , they need to diagnose it and plug into the car because it ' ll store a fault code . I ask " okay sir , where do you plug in , the OBD port ? " He says , yes , there . I tell him that typically does n ' t store faults of a failing AFM module but i say okay how much is it . As a matter of fact , that is where the diagnostic unit plugs in , and it can certainly read codes from the AFM and every other module in the car . Now , whether those codes will be there , or tell him anything , is an open question , but that ' s what you ' re paying him to answer . Bottom line , he ' s got step 1 right and you should n ' t flame him before he does at least some work . 2005 V50 T5 AWD 6MT w / Heico tune , Heico exhaust , Bell intercooler , IPD TCV , Viva Forge CBV , Elevate rear swaybar and torque mount , Snabb shift kit , etc . 2016 XC60 T6 AWD complete , running very original , very rough 10 : 44 PM # 24 PNW 2,108 That is correct the AFM and IAM should store fault codes if they are bad , and according to the Volvo fault tracing and TNNs reguarding AM reception issues its usually the IAM , but since your AM is dead all together its most likely the AFM , but that in no way rules out the IAM either . Also if your AFM is bad you ' ll also require a software download for a new one as well so even if you buy the parts you ' ll still need the dealer for the software on an AFM replacement Nothing is cheap on these cars , but if AM is that important to you then I ' d at a minimum let the dealer diagnose it to help isolate the problem or just get a cheap portable AM unit to carry in your car ( ghetto but cheap ) . 2009 V50 T5 AWD GT : Work in progress ( 1 2 3 11 : 25 PM # 25 That is correct the AFM and IAM should store fault codes if they are bad , and according to the Volvo fault tracing and TNNs reguarding AM reception issues its usually the IAM , but since your AM is dead all together its most likely the AFM , but that in no way rules out the IAM either . Also if your AFM is bad you ' ll also require a software download for a new one as well so even if you buy the parts you ' ll still need the dealer for the software on an AFM replacement Nothing is cheap on these cars , but if AM is that important to you then I ' d at a minimum let the dealer diagnose it to help isolate the problem or just get a cheap portable AM unit to carry in your car ( ghetto but cheap ) . heh , okay thanks guys 11 : 44 PM # 26 - ForceFed - May 2008 Bellingham , WA 9,092 The SW available for the ICM is pretty common to correct intermittent failures , I havent actually had to replace very many ICM ' s other than display glitches . The brass strip I wasnt aware even applied to this chassis , I have done a number of those for the P2 ' s and yes it does actually work although seems really stupid lol . I would bet if the SW doesnt fix the issue then the AFM would likely need to be fault traced . Remember that when a shop recommends a certain procedure to fix your complaint they are liable if it is not fixed . Hold them to it . Just because they charged you money doesnt mean they get to walk away with it if the car isnt fixed properly . Current : 11 ISF | P2 V70R Past : 14 C300 AMG Sport+ | E46M | S40 T5 | NA1 NSX | Acura TL | LS - T DC4 11 - 17 - 2010 , 04 : 05 AM # 27 As a matter of fact , that is where the diagnostic unit plugs in , and it can certainly read codes from the AFM and every other module in the car . Now , whether those codes will be there , or tell him anything , is an open question , but that ' s what you ' re paying him to answer . Bottom line , he ' s got step 1 right and you should n ' t flame him before he does at least some work . ForceFed Motorsports The SW available for the ICM is pretty common to correct intermittent failures , I havent actually had to replace very many ICM ' s other than display glitches . The brass strip I wasnt aware even applied to this chassis , I have done a number of those for the P2 ' s and yes it does actually work although seems really stupid lol . I would bet if the SW doesnt fix the issue then the AFM would likely need to be fault traced . Remember that when a shop recommends a certain procedure to fix your complaint they are liable if it is not fixed . Hold them to it . Just because they charged you money doesnt mean they get to walk away with it if the car isnt fixed properly . Thanks for the help guys . Volvos are so marked up on parts as well as service and I thought I was being taken for a ride ( heh ) . Thanks for the input guys , Kyle there was intermittent , signal for like one station change and now nothing , dead . Is it essentially AFM needing replacement ? If they do the software update and it DOES N ' T work , I should be saying replace that AFM for me under that same umbrella cost ? Heh , I have to go in there being naive , yay . 11 - 17 - 2010 , 02 : 02 PM # 28 - ForceFed - May 2008 Bellingham , WA 9,092 If there is no faults stored for the AFM then thats where it gets tough , I dont like just throwing parts at a car and hoping it fixes it . I wonder if there is a communications app in vida that allows you to test the AFM . I know there will be fault trace information if there is a fault stored but with no codes hard to know where to go . I guess the only thing that irritates me is that they are charging a full hour labor for a SW download that takes literally 5 minutes to do including hooking up the battery stabilizer . We only charged a half which every now and then we would run into some problems so was a nice cushion . Id try to barter with them on the price for the download . Current : 11 ISF | P2 V70R Past : 14 C300 AMG Sport+ | E46M | S40 T5 | NA1 NSX | Acura TL | LS - T DC4 11 - 22 - 2010 , 04 : 01 PM # 29 rudedawg92 Jun 2008 Seattle , WA 17 AM Radio FIX ! ! ! I had the problem where if my car was turned off I could hear AM no problem . Otherwise the static would be so bad I could n ' t hear a thing . It was awful . Anyways . . .I FIXED IT . The static goes away if I turn the rear window defrost on ! If the rear window defrost is already on then I turn it OFF . Bizaare but it works every time . I hope that helps somebody out there . . .and it is convenient enough that I will never pay anyone to 11 - 23 - 2010 , 03 : 20 PM # 30 Okay again , this is bull . I went to the dealer and they charged me 1 hr diagnostic fee ( they could ' ve done this in 20 minutes with 6 bays free ) . Charged me $ 119.95 + taxes so $ 135 . BS in and of itself , however they said I need a new IAM module . Fair enough IAM module needs replacement , the part number is ( 36050350 - which i think is a typo b / c volvo part # s always start with 306 or w / e ) . He $ 1333.23 taxes in . Then he has the gall to say " but the taxes are included so that ' s a good thing " * * * * that guy . * * * * him . I ' m going to look up the module , drive down to a US dealer and have them program it with the software . 11 - 23 - 2010 , 03 : 23 PM # 31 EDIT : Just googled those part numbers as well as searched them on Tasca , they do n ' t exist . God damnit . EDIT again : Just called Tasca and apparently this unit is essentially just the whole CD player unit which needs to be replaced . Volvo here in Canada wants $ 1000 . They want $ 350USD + $ 300 CORE but I ' ll get the core charge back when I trade in my old unit . Software is approximately $ 150 . I ' m just going to use my work phone ( unlimited data ) download an FM / AM radio app , and broad cast AM radio thorough my transmitter . 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http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=145051 | TDIClub Forums > VW TDI Discussion Areas > TDI 101 What should diesel fumes smell like ? User Name Remember Me ? Password Register / Join FAQ Photos Calendar Search Today ' s Posts Mark Forums Read TDI 101 Got a simple / basic TDI question ? Are you a newbie ( new to the forums ) . Feel free to post your question here . Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 > Thread Tools July 13th , 2006 , 18 : 31 1 palladium Newbie Join Date : Jun 2006 Location : Melbourne , Australia TDI ( s ) : Golf 2006 TDI 1.9 What should diesel fumes smell like ? This is the first diesel that I have owned so I do n ’ t know what the fumes should smell like . Upon returning home and parking in the open , I notice a harsh acidic smell outside the car . It is not a hydrogen sulphide smell ; more acidic than foul . I assume that this smell is the exhaust , concentrated in one spot by idling to a stop in the drive . Should diesel fumes smell like this ? Could the catalytic converter have failed ? I am using regular fuel , predominantly from one fuel station but not always . No biodiesel . I believe that at the start of 2006 Australian diesel was supposed to reduce its sulphur content from 500 to 50 . Air temperatures range from 5 - 18 ° C ( 41 - 65 ° F ) . No smoke is evident . July 13th , 2006 , 18 : 39 2 Bob_Fout Oil Wanker Join Date : Sep 2004 Location : Indiana TDI ( s ) : 2003 Jetta - Alaska Green ( sold ) / 2015 GTI 2.0T That description does n ' t sound too far off from what diesel exhaust smells like . . .you might try getting a whiff of exhaust from another diesel vehicle ( truck or car ) and compare . 2003 Jetta TDI ( sold ) / 2015 GTI 2.0T Photos | Mods | CJ - 4 Oils Oil Analysis Stage II Cam July 13th , 2006 , 19 : 50 3 weedeater Veteran Member Mar 2001 Reston , VA Jetta , 2001 , Baltic Green Fuel Economy : 54 / 43 / 38 where / model / year ? You can follow a diesel bus or truck and get a pretty good idea what the exhaust smells like without the catalytic convertor . With the cat , it ' s more ' sharp ' . It may seem like I am doing nothing , but on a cellular level I ' m really quite busy . The game of Bridge is like Sex : You need either a good partner or a good hand . You ' re either part of the solution or you ' re part of the precipitate . July 13th , 2006 , 19 : 53 4 compu_85 Gadget Guy Sep 2003 Springfield VA 1999.5 Jetta GLX TDI Fuel Economy : 3.3 Mi / kWh The TDI exagust is also very ' sharp ' before the cat lights off , eg if you just start the car and let it idle . - Jason Present : 2018 Tesla Model 3 DM . 20,000 miles . 2014 Cadillac ELR . 34,000 miles . 2013 Fiat 500e . 28,000 miles . 99.5 Jetta " GLX " TDI . 323,000 miles . Power Memory Seats , HIDs 11mm pump , BV39 Turbo , RCIII 36 / 47 MPG . 1991 Mercedes 350SDL 230,000 miles , 70,000 on engine . 18 / 27 MPG . Past : 2012 Passat SE TDI DSG . 114,000 miles . LED tails , Memory Seat , HIDs . Bought back by VW . 2004 Touareg V10 TDI . 165,000 miles . Sold to Matt98AHU w / flat camshafts . 1988 Audi 5000S Quattro 1992 Jetta ECOdiese l , 1991 Jetta ECOdiesel . Thank you for giving me the BUG * PWR award . It means a lot to me ! Check out the official TDIClub Chat Room ! Quote : Originally Posted by BRUSSELS BELGIAN Maybe I should pay MYSELF to do bad work on my car ! July 13th , 2006 , 19 : 57 5 BudsBug Veteran Member Dec 2005 Trenton NJ 2000 New Beetle ( Buglet ) Using Bio Diesel even in a small percentage will cut the smell down a lot even just B5 will remove most of the smell . Y2K Buglet { 2000 NB } : - } July 13th , 2006 , 20 : 37 6 palladium Newbie Jun 2006 Melbourne , Australia Golf 2006 TDI 1.9 Quote : Originally Posted by weedeater where / model / year ? Sorry . I have now corrected my signature . It is a 2006 Golf with only about 2000km on the clock . Located in Melbourne , Australia . With the cat , it ' s more ' sharp ' . compu_85 The TDI exagust is also very ' sharp ' before the cat lights off , eg if you just start the car and let it idle . - Jason Do I interpret this as two differing oppinions as to the effect of the cat ? Weedeater says the cat makes the smell more sharp while compu_85 says the smell is sharp before the cat starts . Is there any way to confirm that the cat is functioning correctly ? Thanks for your help . Golf 2006 TDI July 13th , 2006 , 20 : 45 7 Ironforger Feb 2003 Lawrenceville , NJ . I have Vag - Com . PM me . Smells like . . . . . . .victory . Diesel smoke makes me horny . - 99 NBTDI 5sp . RC Euro AFN110 vagswitchable stages 2 & 3 , PP520 ' s , VR6 Sachs clutch & G60 flywheel . 310k - 2002 Dodge 3500 2wd Quad cab dually cummins diesel 6 speed . 202k Rust free . NICE ! ! - 95 Isuzu NPR 16 ' box truck . Turbo Diesel automatic . 160k SOLD - 90 Dodge w250 4x4 cummins 5 speed 145k FOR SALE $ SOLD July 13th , 2006 , 21 : 58 8 rdkern May 2004 Humboldt Co CA Passat 1997 silver ( sold after 11 years ) , Jetta 2000 atlantic blue A4 = wife drives it , do n ' t know A new car will stink - gasser or diesel . Some of what you are smelling is the steel coating wearing off . Let us know in 5000 km whether or not it ' s still anywhere nearly as sharp . Whitedog ' s in progress no - start link . http : / / forums . tdiclub . com / showthread . php ? t = 199398 Read all about it ! July 13th , 2006 , 22 : 10 9 n1das TDIClub Enthusiast Jun 2002 Nashua , NH , USA 2014 BMW 535xd / / / M - Sport , 2012 BMW X5 Xdrive35d , former 3x TDI owner Who cares ? It ' s a DIESEL ! Great fuel economy comes as a bonus ! I love the smell of Diesel in the morning ! Why DIESEL is better : ( Courtesy TDIclub forum member wxman PM - https : / / sites . google . com / view / lmarzccm / home Air Toxics - https : / / sites . google . com / view / loren - marz - ccm / home Ozone Precursors - https : / / sites . google . com / view / lorenmarz - ccm / home General - https : / / sites . google . com / view / emissions - general / home July 13th , 2006 , 22 : 12 10 rdkern May 2004 Humboldt Co CA Passat 1997 silver ( sold after 11 years ) , Jetta 2000 atlantic blue A4 = wife drives it , do n ' t know A brand new one will smell differently - the coating on the steel in the exhaust system will cause a different smell . I love the smell of biodiesel in the morning - makes me want real food . Whitedog ' s in progress no - start link . http : / / forums . tdiclub . com / showthread . php ? t = 199398 Read all about it ! July 14th , 2006 , 00 : 25 11 GlowplugDub Apr 2006 Frederick , MD 2004 Jetta TDI Ever since I got turned on to diesel , the smell of gasoline makes me cringe . 2004 Jetta GL TDI 5 - speed Galactic Blue Mufflerectomy , Boostvalve , KERMA Stage 1 Injectors , RC1 + If you will it dude , it is no dream . July 14th , 2006 , 03 : 52 12 BV1 Member May 2005 Central Pa ( 2 ) 2006 Jettas - Platinum Gray / Spice Red Bleach oder We have two 06 jetta ' s with approx 9k miles each . After stopping and opening the door , there is a chlorine type odor . This is the first time I ' ve heard anyone mention it . July 14th , 2006 , 08 : 41 13 scurvy Good Ol ' Boy Feb 2006 Chicago IL USA 2006 Golf ☠ ☭ Yeah , I was quite suprised after I bought my 2006 Golf and was rewarded with a bleach / vinegar / acid exhaust smell . After 10k miles it ' s more of a diesel tone with soy undernotes but the bleach / vinegar / acid smell is still there . scurvy If you post a question , post your solution ! mk4 front wheel bearing scurvy winter front | VCDS in Chicago , IL USA You are entitled to your opinions but not your own facts . July 14th , 2006 , 12 : 40 14 jeepit Member Apr 2006 Sheboygan WI I love the smell of diesel exhaust . But then , I like the smell of gear lube also . 2006 Jetta Stock 2002 Dodge Turbo Diesel too much to list , blah , blah , blah 1985 Jeep CJ7 6 " lift , 35 ' s , Howell fuel injection , Custom frame to name a few July 14th , 2006 , 13 : 11 15 No Exit Mar 2006 Herndon , VA im picturing all these diesel drivers bending over to sniff the back ends of their cars . 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http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=269288 | TDIClub Forums VW TDI Discussion Areas TDI Conversions Tachometers for conversions User Name Remember Me Password FAQ Photos Calendar Todays Posts Mark Forums Read TDI Conversions Discussions on converting non TDIs into TDIS More general items can be answered better in other sections This is ideal for issues that dont have an overlap and are very special to swaping engines Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 Last Thread Tools January 6th 2010 0220 1 eclipse Veteran Member Join Date May 2007 Location Chico CA TDIs Toyota TDI swap Tachometers for conversions Hello everyone I thought Id start a thread about adding a tachometer to a conversion In general it shouldnt be too difficult One just needs to be sure the signal put out by the ECM matches what the tachometer is expecting I am attempting to connect the stock tachometer on my Toyota pickup to the output signal from the VW ECM Hopefully some of what I learn here can be useful for other conversions To start Id like to quote a friend Quote The tach signal was one of the very first digital circuits in vehicles long before computers came along By digital I mean 0s and 1s There is either a voltage or there isnt a voltage at that coil terminal Minus any electronic component induced voltage rampup or decay it is a square wave When the points are closed the path to ground is complete no voltage When the points are open the path to ground is incomplete and there is a voltage Presence of the electronic ignitor and lacking any points doesnt change how the circuit functions as far as Most tachs work as I understand it essentially as a voltage duty cycle and display as a voltmeter They measure the voltage at the negative coil terminal reference it to battery voltage and display the percentage as RPMs So a tuned resistor would skew the displayed voltage Ok so the tachometer is expecting a 12V square wave with a frequency relative to the amount of cylinders in the engine as an imput signal The VW ECM has a tachometer output pin On my 1Zs ECM it is pin 268 Be careful not to confuse it with 868 engine speed sensor To see what the output signal of this pin is I connected it to my oscilloscope My Laptop can interface with a PC oscilloscope I connected the oscilloscope probe to 268 and connected the oscilloscope ground to the trucks instrument ground line At Idle the output is A clearer picture The output is a square wave signal with a 50 duty cycle The amplitude is 14V Notice the markers 4 pulses correspond to 753 Hz or 4518 cycles per minute Since the engine was idling one would expect 903 RPM In other words there are two 14V pulses per revolution When you rev the motor the pulses move closer together Since the amplitude is right now all I need to do is match the pulse frequency or adjust the tachometers output with a resistor 1996 1Z MK4 MAF MK4 11mm IP 216s long runner intake manifold FMIC GTA2056V CCV filter RC3 25 exhaust Toyota Pickup Build thread January 6th 2010 1027 2 markward Veteran Member Join Date Jul 2007 Location Loxahatchee Florida TDIs 82 Vanagon and 2011 JSW Fuel Economy 2925 mpg over 7200 mile trip I like the Laptop interface I am driving my stock gasser vanagon tach off the of the ECU from an ALH TDI The stock vanagon tach can only be accurate around a specific rpm in my application Not sure why but better than a dead instrument I have adjusted my Tach to be accurate at 3000 rpm verified against my VAG COM At idle it reads 400 rpm low Around 2000 rpm it is off about 200 rpm My guess is the ECU is sending a square wave that the electronic ignition tach is not translating properly Nice write up 1982 Diesel Vanagon Camper with an ALH TDI conversion January 7th 2010 0059 3 eclipse Veteran Member Join Date May 2007 Location Chico CA TDIs Toyota TDI swap It sounds like yours may be calibrated for an engine with more cylinders On any four stroke engine diesel or spark ignition there is one firing either through the spark plug or injecting fuel every two revolutions Thus a four cylinder engine would have 4 cylinders________ _ 2 firings revolution 2 revolutions firing 6 cylinders________ _ 3 firings revolution 2 revolutions firing Therefore a 22RE engine or any 4 cylinder motor for that matter would have a igniter signal of two pulses revolution just like the inductive sensor signal coming out of my VW ECU 1996 1Z MK4 MAF MK4 11mm IP 216s long runner intake manifold FMIC GTA2056V CCV filter RC3 25 exhaust Toyota Pickup Build thread Last edited by eclipse January 7th 2010 at 0108 January 7th 2010 0103 4 eclipse Veteran Member Join Date May 2007 Location Chico CA TDIs Toyota TDI swap I wired the ECMs pin 268 into plug IK2 in my Toyota truck Plug IK2 is in the footwell of the passenger side of the truck where the ECU used to be The pin is on the bottom left looking the male plug It is a black wire and connects to plug D pin 7 on my instrument cluster VERIFY YOUR SPECIFIC WIRES I found this info w a 1993 FSM and verified it with a continuity check I have two tachometers to mess around with The tachometer from my 1991 pickup with a V6 It has a potentiometer to calibrate it for the specific engine Ive heard this has enough range to account for 6 cylinder to 4 cylinder swaps Unfortunately when I tested them this evening that one was DOA The other tach is from a 1993 4runner with a V6 This one worked Here are the approximate rpm values Tach VAGCOM 600 903 1000 1449 1500 2245 2000 2982 All of the tachometer values are off by approximately 23 Since this tach has no calibration resistors I have two options 1 A Dakota Digital adapter 2 An older Pre 1992 Toyota tachometer from a vehicle with a 22RE engine 1996 1Z MK4 MAF MK4 11mm IP 216s long runner intake manifold FMIC GTA2056V CCV filter RC3 25 exhaust Toyota Pickup Build thread Last edited by eclipse January 7th 2010 at January 7th 2010 0744 5 markward Veteran Member Join Date Jul 2007 Location Loxahatchee Florida TDIs 82 Vanagon and 2011 JSW Fuel Economy 2925 mpg over 7200 mile trip Quote Originally Posted by eclipse I wired the ECMs pin 268 into plug IK2 in my Toyota truck Plug IK2 is in the footwell of the passenger side of the truck where the ECU used to be The pin is on the bottom left looking the male plug It is a black wire and connects to plug D pin 7 on my instrument cluster VERIFY YOUR SPECIFIC WIRES I found this info w a 1993 FSM and verified it with a continuity check I have two tachometers to mess around with The tachometer from my 1991 pickup with a V6 It has a potentiometer to calibrate it for the specific engine Ive heard this has enough range to account for 6 cylinder to 4 cylinder swaps Unfortunately when I tested them this evening that one was DOA The other tach is from a 1993 4runner with a V6 This one worked Here are the approximate rpm values Tach VAGCOM 600 903 1000 1449 1500 2245 2000 2982 All of the tachometer values are off by approximately 23 Since this tach has no calibration resistors I have two options 1 A Dakota Digital adapter 2 An older Pre 1992 Toyota tachometer from a vehicle with a 22RE engine Guess I got lucky with the stock vanagon tach There is a potentiometer on the back of the tach for adjusting but the adjustment is across the range That is why I set it to be accurate at 3000 rpm I spend most of the time going down the highway and like to see the tach correct around 70mph Idle is not as important I was content to not have a tach originally but the circuit foil on my original cluster was shot I bought a later cluster with a tach Decided to hook it up I had some other 1982 Diesel Vanagon Camper with an ALH TDI conversion January 7th 2010 0904 6 Rockwell Veteran Member Join Date Nov 2009 Location Manchester NH TDIs 2003 Jetta TDI RIP 16TD Toyota pickup 2011 BMW 335d 1996 Passat TDI Quote Originally Posted by eclipse Since this tach has no calibration resistors I have two options 1 A Dakota Digital adapter 2 An older Pre 1992 Toyota tachometer from a vehicle with a 22RE engine I have an 86 toyota pickup with a 16TD and try as I might I can not get the tach to work I have the Dakota Digital adapter I tried 2 or 3 tachs and 2 alternators with the W output and not a twitch from the tach I am losing hope If you try a pre 92 at least make it a post 89 my pre 89 does not seem to work 2003 Jetta TDI 1722 RIP 1986 Toyota pickup VW 16TD swap Giles IP GTD nozzles Soon to be TDI 2011 BMW 335d sport sold 1996 B4 Passat January 7th 2010 1138 7 shortysclimbin Veteran Member Join Date Oct 2004 Location Virginia currently TDIs Kubvan mk2 golf mk6 golf Why not use an opamp circuit with frequency compensation January 7th 2010 1530 8 eclipse Veteran Member Join Date May 2007 Location Chico CA TDIs Toyota TDI swap Rockwell Dumb question Did you isolate the circuit To make SURE I got the right wire in the harness etc I took the tach out of the instrument cluster and wired it directly I could then check all voltages signals etc BTW did you do a write up on the Pirate board That truck is amazing Shortysclimbin How does a frequency compensation opamp circuit work Im looking into building a circuit w a 12 series PIC They are pretty cheap and capable I wonder if thered be any interest for a SIMPLE cheap pulse translator that allowed something like 200 frequency adjustment It would use a 12V square wave input signal and put out a 12V square wave 1996 1Z MK4 MAF MK4 11mm IP 216s long runner intake manifold FMIC GTA2056V CCV filter RC3 25 exhaust Toyota Pickup Build thread January 7th 2010 1816 9 eclipse Veteran Member Join Date May 2007 Location Chico CA TDIs Toyota TDI swap Regarding the opamp suggestion As I understand it a frequency compensation circuit allows an op amp to produce a more stable output at increased gain or phase margin This comes at the expense of bandwidth Electrically speaking this is a simple slow problem Even an eight cylinder engine running 8000RPM will produce a square wave digital frequency of 533Hz A 4 cylinder TDI running at 4500RPM will only produce a 150Hz square wave We need to keep the inputoutput amplitude the same and alter the frequency These numbers can be handled by an 8bit computer w no problem 1996 1Z MK4 MAF MK4 11mm IP 216s long runner intake manifold FMIC GTA2056V CCV filter RC3 25 exhaust Toyota Pickup Build thread January 8th 2010 0817 10 jimbote Vendor Join Date Jul 2006 Location spiral arm milky way aka central NC TDIs Tacoma 4x4 converted to TDI Fuel Economy golf3843mpgtacoma tdi2933mpg check out my solution for a tach driver using an inductive pickupsuper simpleabout the third post down startingif you wanted to do this using a V6 tach you could weld three nuts 120 apart httpwwwvwdieselnetforumindexphptopic374130 You know what This is a business So now I just keep my mouth shut and pet my chihuahuas Mickey Rourke Last edited by jimbote January 8th 2010 at January 8th 2010 1153 11 eclipse Veteran Member Join Date May 2007 Location Chico CA TDIs Toyota TDI swap Quote Jimbote check out my solution for a tach driver using an inductive pickup That would work in this case a 4 cylinder motor in a car w a V6 cluster same as my problem Im thinking there could be a use for something a little easier cheaper as long as one is capable of intercepting the signal from two wires Of course the device would need power so were talking about 4 wires It seems to me the problem is pretty straight forward and common for anyone who does a motor swap with an electronically contolled engine In fact anyone who changes the tire size or gearing on their car with an electronic speedo could also use something like this At this point Im just curious if anyone would be interested in a simple cheap pulse translator It could be used to adjust speedometer speeds or tachometers I figure it could be sold for 30 To keep it simple and cheap it would need a square wave signal that maxed out at 1khz In other words the teeth on the flyweel would not work Any 12V igniter signal would work and most active inductive pickup signals like the VW motor signal the Toyota speedometer signal or the VW ECM output would work 3 wire pickups are generally active and produce a square wave The output could be changed some percentage Im working on it from the input Setup would be super simple Increase Decrease and lock If people are interested Ill pursue it If not Ive found a used one for that price While I can purchase the parts inexpensively it will take some time to write the code for the microprocessor and design circuit boards etc 1996 1Z MK4 MAF MK4 11mm IP 216s long runner intake manifold FMIC GTA2056V CCV filter RC3 25 exhaust Toyota Pickup Build thread January 8th 2010 1508 12 Vince Waldon Veteran Member Join Date Apr 2009 Location Edmonton Alberta Canada TDIs two 2001 Jetta sedans one 2006 JSW The guys running nonTDI VW diesels that have to use the Wterminal on the alternator to drive the tach would love you The Wterminal signal about 600 faster than what a gasser tach is expecting and the only commercial solution is a 100 frequencyconversion box from Dakota Digital Diesel tachs for preA4 VWs are becoming fewer and farther between and lots of folks are doing gasser diesel swaps Vince Waldon Edmonton AB Canada Note The above is to the best of my knowledge but at the end of the day simply interweb opinion worth EXACTLY what you paid for it and if used done so at your own risk Last edited by Vince Waldon January 8th 2010 at 1510 January 8th 2010 2346 13 eclipse Veteran Member Join Date May 2007 Location Chico CA TDIs Toyota TDI swap Quote Vince Waldon The Wterminal signal about 600 faster than what a gasser tach is expecting Good point Is the Wterminal signal a square or sinusoidal signal So it seems like a range of 600 to 200 would work for most situations It also seems like accuracy of 2 5 would be close enough My idea would be to average the signal for about 4 pulses 2 crank revolutions for 4 cylinder engines to calculate the signal There would be a tiny lag due to this Ideas 1996 1Z MK4 MAF MK4 11mm IP 216s long runner intake manifold FMIC GTA2056V CCV filter RC3 25 exhaust Toyota Pickup Build thread January 9th 2010 0900 14 Rockwell Veteran Member Join Date Nov 2009 Location Manchester NH TDIs 2003 Jetta TDI RIP 16TD Toyota pickup 2011 BMW 335d 1996 Passat TDI Quote Originally Posted by eclipse Rockwell Dumb question Did you isolate the circuit To make SURE I got the right wire in the harness etc I took the tach out of the instrument cluster and wired it directly I could then check all voltages signals etc BTW did you do a write up on the Pirate board That truck is amazing Yes I isolated the circuit and took the tach out too Maybe my Dakoda converter is bad I am watching this thread and hoping for a solution I did mention it on Pirate but my build up was on Zuwharrie it was the one with the 2wd pickup I have hardly driven it and you already have me thinking about swapping the IDI for a TDI 2003 Jetta TDI 1722 RIP 1986 Toyota pickup VW 16TD swap Giles IP GTD nozzles Soon to be TDI 2011 BMW 335d sport sold 1996 B4 Passat January 9th 2010 1041 15 eclipse Veteran Member Join Date May 2007 Location Chico CA TDIs Toyota TDI swap The build I saw on the pirate board was amazing The guy completely took apart the WHOLE TRUCK and repainted each part It was a crawler rig naturally its the pirate board and the guy pointed out for crawling you dont need a lot of power just low end torque and low low gears I guess I would sum up the engines like this 16L simplicity for folks who hate dealing w wiring looms computers and multiple sensors 19L TDI TORQUE power and ability to modify Must have no problem with wiring looms computers etc If you look around here a bit youll see some mindblowing small diesels Before I hijack my own thread Have you tried putting a meter on the output of the signals Do you have access to an oscilloscope I have a fairly simple digital meter that I use to check everything before wiring it together With the engine running put the meter between the W output and ground In DC mode there will be a lot of hunting with no final number In AC mode it should settle on some number lower than 12V I dont know what the signal out of the W terminal is Vince Waldon said its about 600 faster than the signal put out by the VW ECU If you have an analog meter you may be in better luck It will read an AC signal the inductance in the meter will cause the meter to settle on the RMS value of the voltage Again this is a value less than 12V Those values are relative to the duty cycle of the output signal If the frequency is increased revving the motor you will most likely see no difference in the output If there is something coming out of the alternator measure the Dakota digitals output in the same way Use its ground which should be connected to the instrument ground of your truck The grounds should be tied together at some point but the instrument ground allows guages to operate without large fluctuations due to heavy loads When I measured the output of 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http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=331616 | Order your TDIClub merchandise and help support TDIClub TDIClub Forums > TDI Model Specific Discussions Areas > VW MKV - A5 Golf / Jettas Oil in the charge air cooler pipes and hoses . User Name Remember Me ? Password Register / Join FAQ Photos Calendar Search Today ' s Posts Mark Forums Read VW MKV - A5 Golf / Jettas Discussions area for A5 / MkV Jetta / Golf ( 2005 / 2006 PD and 2009 CR ) . Thread Tools October 2nd , 2011 , 16 : 35 1 bthober Newbie Join Date : Dec 2009 Location : colorado , USA TDI ( s ) : 2006 VW Jetta tdi BRM Oil in the charge air cooler pipes and hoses . I have an ' 06 jetta w / brm engine . I was busy taking out the transmission to replace the clutch . when I took out the air cleaner and related plastic piping there was oil residue inside the pipe . I went ahead and took off the pipe pieces on the passenger side and they too had oil in them . there was enough oil for it to run out when i stood the piece on end . when I was pulling the cv axle ( pass side ) i noticed that the little rubber elbow hose coming October 2nd , 2011 , 21 : 31 2 JSWTDI09 Veteran Member Join Date : Jan 2009 Location : Las Vegas , Nevada TDI ( s ) : 2009 JSW TDI ( gone but not forgotten ) A little oil in the intercooler pipes is normal . There is always some oil condensation . However , if you find a lot of oil ( like a cup or more ) , it could indicate that your turbocharger seals are failing . Therefore the real question is : How much oil did you fine ? A little is pretty normal , while a lot could indicate a problem . Good Luck ! Have Fun ! Don 2009 Jetta SportWagen TDI ( gone but not forgotten ) 2018 VW Tiguan SE ( I wish it was a TDI ) October 3rd , 2011 , 18 : 32 3 bthober Newbie Dec 2009 colorado , USA 2006 VW Jetta tdi BRM I believe the oil has been leaking out of the rubber elbow that i mentioned in the first post . I believe that the oil is the reason that the rubber elbow failed in the first place . The car has 175k mi . on it and I replaced the same elbow 55k ago . there was oil present at that time but not nearly as much . there was standing oil in the airways this time . if the seals are bad do I just replace the whole thing or can it be rebuilt ? If I should replace October 5th , 2011 , 17 : 04 4 How does a person go about getting more input on a subject ? Has this not occured with anyone else ' s brm ? I do n ' t mean to sound complainy but I need some feedback . Yes I am already tearing pretty deep into the car for the clutch and the timing belt but I want to go about dealing with each kinda by itself . is there some thing I should do ? should I take the turbo off and inspect something in particular ? Is there a thread out there that I should be looking October 6th , 2011 , 00 : 24 5 Mrrogers1 Veteran Member Jun 2006 Omaha NEEEBRASKA 2015 Golf Sportwagen S TDI Fuel Economy : Never high enough but always trying for more . . . . ( See signature ) I did my timing belt and the rear heater hoses this weekend and yes , I found some oil in the mouth of the passenger side intake hose ( after the intercooler ) and some on the back side of the intake hose on the driver side . Not enough to pour out but I could see it was their . Unless you are filling with the oil , I would n ' t sweat it . October 6th , 2011 , 12 : 20 6 LBJ ( Laser Blue Jetta ) Aug 2009 St . Paul , MN 2009 Laser Blue Sportwagen w / DSG I also was wondering how normal it is to find oil in the intercooler . My ' 09 has 40k miles on it and I noticed the oil on the engine belly pan when I removed it to change engine oil and do the 40k inspections . I did not remove the elbow from the intercooler ( where the oil is ) to see what was inside . The discharge end of the entercooler shows no evidence of oil leakage . I ' m wondering if I should take it to a dealer for possible warranty work ? From what October 6th , 2011 , 12 : 44 7 JSWTDI09 Jan 2009 Las Vegas , Nevada 2009 JSW TDI ( gone but not forgotten ) Quote : Originally Posted by LBJ ( Laser Blue Jetta ) I also was wondering how normal it is to find oil in the intercooler . My ' 09 has 40k miles on it and I noticed the oil on the engine belly pan when I removed it to change engine oil and do the 40k inspections . I did not remove the elbow from the intercooler ( where the oil is ) to see what was inside . The discharge end of the entercooler shows no evidence of oil leakage . I ' m wondering if I should take it to a dealer for possible warranty work ? From what 1 ) You would be surprised how big of a problem a dealer can miss . I ' m shocked when they actually spot one . If they do n ' t feel like fixing it , they will not " notice " it . 2 ) I noticed some oil on the floor in my garage and asked the dealer to check for leaks at my 30k " free " service . They discovered that one of the intercooler pipes was improperly put together at the factory and it was leaking oil . They told me that some oil condensation in the IC was normal . Anyway , they replaced the damaged piece of pipe for free . BTW : no new oil on the floor , so I guess it worked . Have Fun ! Don 2009 Jetta SportWagen TDI ( gone but not forgotten ) 2018 VW Tiguan SE ( I wish it was a TDI ) October 7th , 2011 , 10 : 18 8 straightliner Oct 2006 n . w . indiana 09 TDI Jetta Quote : Originally Posted by 1 ) You would be surprised how big of a problem a dealer can miss . I ' m shocked when they actually spot one . If they do n ' t feel like fixing it , they will not " notice " it . 2 ) I noticed some oil on the floor in my garage and asked the dealer to check for leaks at my 30k " free " service . They discovered that one of the intercooler pipes was improperly put together at the factory and it was leaking oil . They told me that some oil condensation in the IC was normal . Anyway , they replaced the damaged piece of pipe for free . BTW : no new oil on the floor , so I guess it worked . Don Thats funny Don , The VW dealerships have such a bad name when it comes to service work ! I had something similar happen and the dealer said they have to contact VW for the fix ? I asked the service writer why he was having the carwash kid do the repair and not a mechanic ? ( Laughing ) The writer said all warranty repairs are reported to VW and VW tells them how to repair it ! My intercooler hose was also leaking and i found it slid very easily on the intercooler piping . The dealer said it was bad and needs replaced . So i told them ok but i would do the repair ! They got quiet ! I went to parts and bought the replacement hose and installed it at home . Guess what ? It fits the same ! ! ! Very sloppy connection and it slides back and fourth . I looked at the old hose and found a compression seal inside the hose that would essentially expand and seal under I still have the old hose and i plan on removing the fancy clip connector and installing a hose clamp next time ! Chris Rehtorik October 7th , 2011 , 10 : 24 9 Mrrogers1 Jun 2006 Omaha NEEEBRASKA 2015 Golf Sportwagen S TDI Fuel Economy : Never high enough but always trying for more . . . . ( See signature ) straightliner Thats funny Don , The VW dealerships have such a bad name when it comes to service work ! I had something similar happen and the dealer said they have to contact VW for the fix ? I asked the service writer why he was having the carwash kid do the repair and not a mechanic ? ( Laughing ) The writer said all warranty repairs are reported to VW and VW tells them how to repair it ! My intercooler hose was also leaking and i found it slid very easily on the intercooler piping . The dealer said it was bad and needs replaced . So i told them ok but i would do the repair ! They got quiet ! I went to parts and bought the replacement hose and installed it at home . Guess what ? It fits the same ! ! ! Very sloppy connection and it slides back and fourth . I looked at the old hose and found a compression seal inside the hose that would essentially expand and seal under pressure ? I still have the old hose and i plan on removing the fancy clip connector and installing a hose clamp next time ! Chris Rehtorik HA HA ! Excellent ! ( * but sad at the same time October 7th , 2011 , 12 : 11 10 740GLE Aug 2009 NH 2015 Passat SEL , 2017 Alltrack SE ; BB 2010 Sedan Man ; 2012 Passat , Instead of replacing that plastic IC pipe , you should have just been able to snag that gasket . I want to say Nhdoc or some other member here was able to replace just the gasket but it did n ' t do anything . But agreed it ' s a bad design ( mine leaks just on the belly pan and is loose ) , but maybe they are uber smart and figured this would be a great place for oil to exit the intercooler ! Hers : 2015 Passat SEL ( NOS ) w / VW fix and Malone Stage 2 . His : 2017 Alltrack SE , waiting for TSI to TDI conversion kits to be released . 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http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=341652 | TDIClub Forums VW TDI Discussion Areas TDI 101 ALH Oil Leak Front of engine User Name Remember Me Password FAQ Photos Calendar Todays Posts Mark Forums Read TDI 101 Got a simplebasic TDI question Are you a newbie new to the forums Feel free to post your question here Page 1 of 2 1 2 Thread Tools January 20th 2012 1130 1 nashbok Newbie Join Date Nov 2009 Location Dallas TX TDIs 2000 Jetta TDI 182000 ALH Oil Leak Front of engine Ive got a pretty good oil leak coming from the oil filter housing area on my 2000 TDi Jetta 175k miles My guess is the oil filter housing gasket The plan is to just replace all the sealsgasket on the housing Is this a common problem Anything else I should look for Thanks January 20th 2012 1131 2 Dieselducky Veteran Member Join Date Oct 2011 Location Dunnville TDIs 88 Jetta Diesel 2000 Jetta TDI 04 BMW M3 06 Kia Rio F350 Superduty 87 Buick GNX Mobile Cranes Fuel Economy 475 TDI Check the oil filter cap to make sure its not cracked January 20th 2012 1137 3 maxwellp Veteran Member Join Date Oct 2011 Location VERONA WI TDIs 1998 TDI Beetle Fuel Economy 4725 I just had one like that on my 98 Beetle It was the oil cooler under the filter housing I just tightened the large nut on it and it is leak free 1998 Beetle TDI Malone Tuning Stage 2 2001 Dodge Cummins 59 2005 Dodge Cummins 59 January 20th 2012 1151 4 shaginwagen Veteran Member Join Date Aug 2007 Location Sherwood Park AB TDIs Bora Fuel Economy 5L100KM httpforumstdiclubcomshowpostp2postcount51 995 Bora TD I Many mods 71 Tin Top Westfalia 85 Mercedes 300SD Highway Cruiser 85 Jetta Coupe January 21st 2012 1835 5 nashbok Newbie Join Date Nov 2009 Location Dallas TX TDIs 2000 Jetta TDI 182000 Re thanks for the info all Shagin is right and thanks for the write up BTW theres tons of good info in here but the search feature on the forums is seriously lacking After cleaning everything off and taking a good look it seems to be the oil cooler I assumed the filter housing gasket since the dealer told me if it was the oil cooler seal Id have antifreeze in my oil which I dont January 21st 2012 2124 6 paramedick TDIClub Enthusiast Vendor Join Date Jul 2001 Location Versailles Kentucky TDIs 2005 Grey NB mine 2006 Black Jetta Rachels Oil cooler seals keeps junction to oil filter stand from leaking To get coolant in oil there would have to be an internal leak of the oil cooler Selected TDI Repair Services available No greasecars please To contact me E mail quick answer via iPhone Click on username for E mail address PMs are turned off January 23rd 2012 0401 7 cbrpaul Member Join Date Jun 2007 Location UK TDIs SHARAN 19TDI I have a AFN front engine oil leak which also appears near to the oil filter housing I would be very interested in knowing your outcome thankyou January 24th 2012 1158 8 nashbok Newbie Join Date Nov 2009 Location Dallas TX TDIs 2000 Jetta TDI 182000 Theres a small leak at the top of the oil filter the oring doesnt fit very well bulges out a bit The main leak was coming from the top of the oil cooler I tightened up the bolt 14 turn and that seems to have fixed it for now I ordered the orings from idparts for six bucks the dealer quoted 19 but havent installed them The biggest issue was cleaning off the engine to locate the leaks I had let it go WAAAAY too long and the engine was a real mess Last edited by nashbok January 24th 2012 at 1201 January 24th 2012 1215 9 alphaseinor TDI Innovator Vendor wBusiness number Join Date Jul 2006 Location Denton TX TDIs 03 Jetta TDI 780000 miles totaled out 01 Audi TT 225 Quattro 230000 Miles runs great 00 Cabreetle Beetle dash ALH MK4 harness Swap Fuel Economy 38 in city floored 45 on highway 75mph if you need something that cleans really well use 5050 simple green spray it down then let it sit on there for about 20 minutes then use brake cleaner to wash it off rinse and repeat youd be surprised at the result Owner of Digi Sport Performance in Denton TX 5 speed swap wiring issues Check Here for help I have a VCDS VAGCOM I am a trusted mechanic Automatic to 5 speed swap thread We do Malone Chiptunes VE PD Common Rail and DSG January 24th 2012 1225 10 whitedog Veteran Member Join Date Jul 2004 Location Bend Oregon TDIs 2004 Jetta that I fill by myself Quote Originally Posted by paramedick Oil cooler seals keeps junction to oil filter stand from leaking To get coolant in oil there would have to be an internal leak of the oil cooler Yes Its sad that the dealer didnt understand this Can rent movies at BlockBuster November 5th 2013 1608 11 Mk4tdi02 Veteran Member Join Date Apr 2013 Location Mississauga TDIs 02 Golf TDI Looks like my mk4 alh is leaking from the same place Anybody have those part numbers for those seals thanks November 5th 2013 1940 12 paramedick TDIClub Enthusiast Vendor Join Date Jul 2001 Location Versailles Kentucky TDIs 2005 Grey NB mine 2006 Black Jetta Rachels 038117070a Selected TDI Repair Services available No greasecars 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http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=440007 | TDIClub Forums Meetings GTG Regional Discussions Ontario Will jetta rims fit a corolla User Name Remember Me Password FAQ Photos Calendar Todays Posts Mark Forums Read Ontario Local discussions for those in the Ontario Canada area Thread Tools May 11th 2015 0825 1 2ManyKMfor1Tank Veteran Member Join Date Feb 2009 Location Grand Valley ON TDIs 2000 Jetta Will jetta rims fit a corolla So have been calling around trying to get my summer tires mounted on rims but am appalled by what shops are charging to change them over Canadian Tire wants 25 a tire even if I bring them in loose Dont have spare rims till I went online and noticed the bolt pattern for corolla and jetta rims are the same So researching further I did notice the offset is different 65Jx15 ET40 for Corolla 65Jx15 ET37 for Jetta Does this make a big enough difference to require spacers 2003 Golf TDI Ventectomy Defender Skid Plate Bilstein TC Comforts Audi TT bushings Frost Heater PP520s DG Racepipe ScanGauge II URLhttpwwwfuellycomdriver2ManyKMfor1TankjettatdiIMGhttpwwwfuellycomsigmetric15430 Last edited by 2ManyKMfor1Tank May 11th 2015 at 0837 May 11th 2015 0841 2 breakfasteatre Veteran Member Join Date May 2008 Location Toronto TDIs gone 97 b4v 01 00 mk4 now 06 mk4v thats pretty minimal difference and on stock suspension probably wont matter but the hub bore might be different since the wheel sits on the hub i dont think using spacers to space the wheel off the hub is a good idea May 11th 2015 0843 3 breakfasteatre Veteran Member Join Date May 2008 Location Toronto TDIs gone 97 b4v 01 00 mk4 now 06 mk4v it looks like the difference is 541 versus 571 for the corolla and jetta respectively May 11th 2015 0844 4 dieselsipper Veteran Member Join Date Apr 2008 Location Ingersoll Ontario TDIs 2004 Jetta TDI Fuel Economy Best 1315km using 54 litres vented tank Average 48L100Km I personally do not know the answer to this and I had a similar experience when buying snow tires for my van Offset was 3mm difference and the wheel interfered with the brake caliper by less than 1mm I ended up buying 18 spacers for like 10 Best advice is to get the same offset May 11th 2015 1217 5 P2B Veteran Member Join Date Jan 2006 Location Toronto Canada TDIs 2002 Jetta 2003 Jetta 2003 Jetta Wagon Theres a Corolla in my neighborhood running Avus rims so Im gonna guess they fit seems unlikely youd need a spacer but its not hard to test fit a bare rim before getting tires mounted Simon Jettas for 29 years TDIs for 13 2003 Silver Jetta TDI GLS 220K PP520 RC3 6Speed ERF 2003 Silver Jetta TDI Wagon 180K PP520 RC2 2000 Canyon Red Jetta TDI GLS 300K May 11th 2015 2108 6 2ManyKMfor1Tank Veteran Member Join Date Feb 2009 Location Grand Valley ON TDIs 2000 Jetta Sweet thanks all Going to try them in the morning 2003 Golf TDI Ventectomy Defender Skid Plate Bilstein TC Comforts Audi TT bushings Frost Heater PP520s DG Racepipe ScanGauge II URLhttpwwwfuellycomdriver2ManyKMfor1TankjettatdiIMGhttpwwwfuellycomsigmetric15430 May 11th 2015 2108 7 Wingnut Veteran Member Join Date Oct 2002 Location Toronto Whitby TDIs Silver 2003 Jetta Wagon Fuel Economy 45L100km The issue is the centre bore VW will fit on Toyota because the VW bore is larger and will fit over the smaller Toyota hub Centreing rings can be used to centre the rim on the hub It wont work the other way around since the Toyota bore is too small to fit over the VW hub so you need to use a spacer But the rim will be difficult to centre and you may get handlingvibration issues Disregard the above I thought the thread was about putting Corolla wheels on a VW I forgot you bought a Toyota Moving Need boxes Go green and check out FROG BOX com Old Ride 2000 Black Sedan Gone New Ride 2003 Silver Wagon Malone Tuned T4 injectors 11mm pump 25 Magnaflow cat back PD150 intake OMI Wingnut SS ERF 6 speed Bilstein TC Sport susp wGTI springs Neuspeed RSB Santa Monicas Autometer Cobalt 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http://forums.techsoup.org/cs/community/f/20/t/1613.aspx | Shelter database ASPCA PetWhere Community Databases and Software Shelter database ASPCA PetWhere Posted by charri54 on 10 Jan 2002 1251 PM Has anyone tried this free software Im looking for a basic database I can easily customize The PetWhere appears to be pretty inclusive but some segments dont apply and I want to build some new ones that alerts for scheduled medical maintenance AND allows medical history during shelter stay LIKE URI treatment schedule meds dosage etc Foxpro is pretty steep and thats what they recommend to customize it Posted by Sean_Kelley on 10 Jan 2002 704 PM Hi Charri Im not familiar with PetWhere but I did some checking and it seems the current Foxprobased version has bugs including problems with Internet Explorer 60 so theyve turned over development of the newest version PetWhere 30 to a new developer The new developer will be using Borlands Interbase for the database engine and Borlands Delphi will be used to develop PetWhere 30 so costs to customize should no longer be a concern if you can wait for the beta release in Spring 2002 Full release version is slated for midyear this year sometime Even the Report Builder that will ship with PetWhere 30 is Delphi basedPetWhere 30 will still be free to nonprofit animal welfare organizations You could email them and ask to be put on the betatesting list or sign up for ASPCAs newsletter so you can be notified of the new releases Summary of Expected minimum hardware software recommendations for PetWhere 30subject to changeLINEBREAK MS Windows 98 Me NT 2000 or XPLINEBREAKPentium III 400 MhzLINEBREAK128 MB Ram 1 GB hard drive CDROMLINEBREAKSuper VGA 256 color monitor and video adapter 800 x 600LINEBREAKBackup device You may want to direct any questions about Borland or Delphi to TechSoups Open Source Software Alternative OS forum Sean Posted by charri54 on 11 Jan 2002 634 AM Thanks Sean I almost got that far I was just so excited about free I didnt jump any further than ordering it Posted by Anonymous on 12 Jan 2002 805 AM Charri54 and SeanLINEBREAKPetWhere is EXACTLY what I need to ask about I am a new volunteer with our local animal shelter and theyre USING PetWhere dont know which version Theyve had terrible trouble with itkeeps crashing on em Will also tell you theyre not exactly the most technologically advanced grouptheyve got it running on a machine with 64 megs of RAM and I think thats probably part of the problemLINEBREAKANYONE using this software with ANY hints on how to make it work NOW or ANYONE using a different more stable easiertouse package PLEASE CHIME IN I cant even figure out Posted by Sean_Kelley on 12 Jan 2002 1011 AM Hi JT these links should help LINEBREAK PetWhere Survival Guide with updates and patches for fixing problems LINEBREAK PetWhere QA LINEBREAK PetWhere Problem and Solution section LINEBREAK PetWhere Usage Guide The Usage Guide didnt look very helpful but the rest of the links have a ton of info Sean New here If youd like to participate If youre already a member log in Subscribe to this Forum Topic RSS Details Rate This 4 Replies 0 Posted over 16 years ago | [
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My MOH aligned everything already so her invites for the party will go out about 1.5 - 2 weeks after the invites and the girls will have a couple weeks to rsvp . Nichole Tampa , FL Report Reply MairePoppy Connecticut mod edited December 2011 In my social circle , showers are held 1 to 3 months before the wedding . The shower invitations would be sent out about a month before the shower . Wedding invitations are usually sent out 8 to 10 weeks before the wedding . So it is typical for the shower invitations to go out before the wedding invitations . If it makes more sense to send the shower invitations before the wedding invitations , then that ' s what she should do . Have fun at your shower : ) Reply samnathaw My shower will occur before our invitations are sent out . We did send save the dates however , so the women invited to the shower have already had indication of an invitation ! hschieferstein I think most of the time shower invites go out prior to wedding invites . September 2011 March Siggy Challenge We had a great Wedding Party kmmssg mod My DD had to fly home to attend her shower and it was 3 months before her wedding . That is when she could get time off so that is when we did it . Everyone received a wedding invitation and no one seemed bent out of shape about it . MAMA41206 My shower is on Saturday and I ' m not sending out my wedding invitations until next week ( 8 weeks before Wedding ) . peanutty2 I think it ' s okay as long as everyone is invited to the wedding too and hopefully at least knows about the wedding . Did you send STDs ? Typically , where I am anyway , the shower is 2 - 3 months before the wedding . So it ' d be too early for invites to go out . I sent STDs . So only those people definately invited to the wedding are invited to the shower . My shower is about 2 weeks before I ' ll be sending out wedding invites . Just worked out that way . LoveMuffins My shower happend about 2 weeks before my invites went out , so it would ' ve been hard not to send the shower invites before the wedding ones ! I definitely was n ' t going to send my wedding invites out 4 months in advance ! I think the shower invites should be sent about 3 weeks - a month before the shower . Rocking the Dress with my Bestie Married Bio Day Zero / Blog Hellokatie0517 Sending out STDs , helps curb any etiquette issues as far as people being invited to a shower prior to receiving a wedding invite . Just make sure that whoever is throwing your shower knows to only invite people that are invited to the wedding ! Planning Bio ~ Updated 9 / 23 / 11 D - Day is 11.5.11 128 invited 102 Party People 23 Party Poopers 3 Wishy Washies The harassment begins on 10.15.11 ! athlete010688 Thanks everyone ! I did n ' t think it would be that big of a deal . And yes , everyone that is invited to the shower , is invited to the wedding . MyFitnessPal - Free Calorie Counter MelanieReese13 February 2013 II was just wondering the same thing ! Since i am sending out my save - the - dates i think it is fine to send out bridal shower invitations before wedding invites . Thanks everyone ! n Response to Re : Bridal Shower before Wedding Invitations are sent out ? : [ QUOTE ] My shower happend about 2 weeks before my invites went out , so it would ' ve been hard not to send the shower invites before the wedding ones ! I definitely was n ' t going to send my wedding invites out 4 months in advance ! I think the shower invites should be sent about 3 weeks - a month before the shower . Posted by LoveMuffins [ / QUOTE ] pearnjeff September 2014 My niece gets married at the end of march ' 15 . She had her shower last weekend . Her save the dates went out last weekend . I get married in 6 weeks . What is the etiquette ? My sister says having a shower 6 months in advance before the save the dates are mailed is ok . My shower was over labor day weekend because my sister did n ' t want my shower the same weekend as her daughters . . she said it was " her Daughters weekend " . There are people who were Maggie0829 Ravens & Bohs & Crabs & O ' s September 2014 pearnjeff said : My niece gets married at the end of march ' 15 . She had her shower last weekend . Her save the dates went out last weekend . I get married in 6 weeks . What is the etiquette ? My sister says having a shower 6 months in advance before the save the dates are mailed is ok . My shower was over labor day weekend because my sister did n ' t want my shower the same weekend as her daughters . . she said it was " her Daughters weekend " . There are people who were @ pearnjeff - I think having a shower 6 months before your wedding and before STDs even go out is kind of crazy . Now I had my shower before invites went out but only a month before invites went out ( invites went out 8 weeks before wedding date ) . As far as your shower and not including everyone who got a STD , that is fine . Typically showers are for the nearest and dearest to the bride and not meant for the entire wedding guest list . As for your sister and her wanting her daughter to have " her weekend , " I think she needs to lay off the crazy MOB juice . photokitty where I want to be I ' m closing this Zombie . Thanks for answering @ pearnjeff ' s question @ maggie0829 please refrain from bumping super old threads , if you have a question you can feel free to start a new discussion if your search does not answer your question . Thanks ! ~ xoxo ~ This discussion has been closed . | [
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http://forums.theknot.com/discussion/481196/how-long-does-it-take-for-the-marriage-certificate-to-come-back | September 2010 Weddings New Discussion How long does it take for the marriage certificate to come back ? jodylynn78 member September 2010 I know there are plenty of places that wo n ' t allow me to change my name until we have our marriage certificate . For those of you that are already married , how long did it take for your certificate to come back . Did you have to pick it up , or was it mailed to you ? Thanks ! Report Reply to Post Re : How long does it take for the marriage certificate to come back ? MrsJG2Be September 2010 I think it would depend on your county and state . I got married 5 days ago and am waiting for the county to turn my license into a certificate so I can get a certified copy of it . ~ ~ ~ Lynsey ~ ~ ~ Report Reply Musicheals71 member In NJ , you apply for the license , then you wait 3 days to pick it up . Then you turn it over to your officiant prior to the wedding ceremony so he can fill out the areas he ' s required to fill out ahead of time . All we have left of it is the pink copy ( it was a triplicate form ) , but it ' s totally legal . Like Mrs JG2Be said , every state is different , so you have to check it out for yourself . Reply S_A_Friedel I live in Upstate NY and it took about 2 weeks to come in the mail . Planning Bio * For Sale * kkaew816 In MN it took us 1 week to get ours back from the day we got married shellb1978 I talked to the person we got our marriage license from , because I had this concern , in Missouri , you can get a certified copy the day we turn ours in , so instead of having our officiant do it for us , we ' re just having him fill in what he needs to , then taking it the next week to get this done . BFP # 1 3 / 27 / 07 - M / C 8weeks 5 / 3 / 07 " Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take , but by the number of moments that take our breath away . " 1 / 16 / 13 : 7dpo Progesterone blood draw , low progesterone / weak ovulation , 50mg Clomid CD5 - 9 Baseline u / s on 2 / 4 showed I ovulated about an hour before my appointment ! IUI # 1 + trigger = BFP ! ! ! flirtatiousgrk depends when it gets sent out . . . my priest said he would send it out the tuesday after the wedding . . . . ya well . . .he didnt . . . im pretty mad . . . i called the place i got the license and asked them why its taking so long , they said they didnt get it yet . called the priest he said he thought he sent it out ~ im like thanks . . . . so now i have to wait . . again i want to finish all this already and try and get a new passport before we decide to go anywhere . but orignially he said wait 2 weeks . My Randomly Updated Planning Bio EVERYTHING FOR SALE - JUST ASK ! quyencong I live in Oklahoma and it took us about a week to get it in the mail . diablesse In PA , the official license showed up in the mail about 10 days after the wedding . We had a temp version given to us by the officiant right after the wedding . I was told that you could use that at the DMV if needed . TTC since 2010 Me : 36 , slightly elevated FSH . Everything else ( hysterescopy , HSG , b / w ) normal . DH : 30 , with super sperm ? > 200mil post wash BFP # 1 - May 2011 - m / c @ 8weeks IUI # 1 - July 26 2012 - Femara = BFN Suprise BFP Jan 15 2013 . Hope this one sticks ! MissyCee I got married 9 / 11 in upstate NY and we just got back from the honeymoon last night and found our certificate had come in the mail while we were gone ! I was surprised at how quick it came to us , we were told it would take about two weeks ! [ url = http : / / www . thebump . com / ? utm_source = ticker&utm_medium = UBB&utm_campaign = tickers ] [ img ] http : / / global . thebump . com / tickers / tt152345 . aspx [ / img ] [ / url ] LiaDee In NC you go get the license , you give it to the officiant at the ceremony and he sends it in to the county clerk or whatever . Our copies were in the mailbox when we got back from the wedding , 8 days prior . amc9885 June 2012 In Response to Re : How long does it take for the marriage certificate to come back ? : [ QUOTE ] In NJ , you apply for the license , then you wait 3 days to pick it up . Then you turn it over to your officiant prior to the wedding ceremony so he can fill out the areas he ' s required to fill out ahead of time . All we have left of it is the pink copy ( it was a triplicate form ) , but it ' s totally legal . Like Mrs JG2Be said , every state is different , so you have to check it out for yourself . Posted by Musicheals71 [ / QUOTE ] I live in NJ , can I use this pink form to change my name or do I have to wait until copy is available ? Thanks ! ! ! ! Ashley This discussion has been closed . | [
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http://forums.tomisimo.org/showthread.php?t=11178 | Ask a Question ( Create a thread ) Spanish language learning forums > Spanish & English Languages > Vocabulary Adiós or Chau ? User Name Remember Me ? Password Register Help / FAQ Social Groups Calendar Search Today ' s Posts Mark Forums Read Penpals Translator Register for your free account and start participating in our community now Contact Us Adiós or Chau ? Ask about definitions or translations for Spanish or English words . Thread Tools Display Modes 1 June 27 , 2011 , 08 : 16 PM Christoferus Opal Join Date : Jun 2011 Location : Pennsylvania , USA Posts : 11 Native Language : English Adiós or Chau ? Everyone knows that " adiós " means " goodbye " , but I also found the word " chau " that apparently is an informal alternative for saying " adiós " . I ' ve never heard this as a way of saying " goodbye " in Spanish before . My question is , which one is more commonly used ? And where in the world is the word " chau " used ? One more thing , I ' ve seen " chau " spelled as " chao " . Which spelling is correct ? Get rid of these ads by registering for a free Tomísimo account . 2 June 27 , 2011 , 08 : 48 PM poli rule 1 : gravity Join Date : Oct 2007 Location : In and around New York Posts : 7,378 Native Language : English Quote : Originally Posted by Christoferus Everyone knows that " adiós " means " goodbye " , but I also found the word " chau " that apparently is an informal alternative for saying " adiós " . I ' ve never heard this as a way of saying " goodbye " in Spanish before . My question is , which one is more commonly used ? And where in the world is the word " chau " used ? One more thing , I ' ve seen " chau " spelled as " chao " . Which spelling is correct ? It comes from the Italian wordciao which is used as a greeting as well as a good - by . The Spanish version is chao , and it is different from its Italian cognate in that it means good - by only . Ciao in English is used too , and , like the Spanish version , it means good - by . Chao may be understood throughout the Spanish - speaking world , but people in some countries like Argentina and Colombia use it more frequently . Sometimes the use of chao may help you hone in on where the speaker comes from . For example , someone from Cartagena may sound Cuban to a less - trained ear , but if they say chao it may rule out that they are Cuban or Dominican , and assume they are Colombian . Me ayuda si corrige mis errores . Gracias . 3 June 27 , 2011 , 08 : 48 PM wrholt Sapphire Join Date : Apr 2011 Location : Boston , Massachusetts , USA Posts : 1,316 Native Language : US English The word " chau " or " chao " is fairly common everywhere . Both spellings are listed by the RAE in its on - line edition , which indicates that " chau " is the preferred spelling in Argentina , Bolivia , Peru and Uruguay , and that " chao " is the more common spelling everywhere else . It is borrowed from the Italian word " ciao " . 4 June 27 , 2011 , 08 : 57 PM Opal Join Date : Jun 2011 Location : Pennsylvania , USA Posts : 11 Thanks , poli and wrholt . I ' m going to be in Mexico in a couple of years . Should I use " chao " at all while I ' m there ? Are there different regions of Mexico that use or do n ' t use that word ? 5 June 27 , 2011 , 09 : 14 PM wrholt Sapphire Join Date : Apr 2011 Location : Boston , Massachusetts , USA Posts : 1,316 Native Language : US English Quote : Originally Posted by Thanks , poli and wrholt . I ' m going to be in Mexico in a couple of years . Should I use " chao " at all while I ' m there ? Are there different regions of Mexico that use or do n ' t use that word ? I suggest listening to what the people you meet choose to say on taking their leave , and imitating them . There wo n ' t be just one expression for saying good - bye , just as in English . I regularly use " good - bye " , " see you later / tomorrow / next week " , " later " , " so long " , " good evening / night " , and so on . There is a similar variety of ways to take one ' s leave in Spanish , and " chao / chau " is one more member of the club . 6 June 27 , 2011 , 09 : 18 PM Ok , so it ' s like saying " qué pasa " instead of " qué tal " or " qué hay " . Makes sense . 7 June 28 , 2011 , 06 : 31 AM poli rule 1 : gravity Join Date : Oct 2007 Location : In and around New York Posts : 7,378 I have n ' t heard chao used in Mexico , but I ' m pretty most people will understand it anyway . Qué pasa usually means what ' s happening . So if a father sees his two children fighting he may say : ¿ Qué pasa ? Me ayuda si corrige mis errores . Gracias . Last edited by poli ; June 28 , 2011 at 06 : 34 AM 8 June 28 , 2011 , 07 : 27 AM AngelicaDeAlquezar Obsidiana Join Date : Jan 2009 Location : Mexico City Posts : 8,224 Native Language : Mexican Spanish " Adiós " , " hasta luego " , " hasta pronto " , are some formal ways to say goodbye . " Chau " , " chao " , " bye " , " nos vemos " , are some more informal ways to say the same . In Mexico , people tend to use " bye " most of the time . A common way to say goodbye here is " Cuídate , bye " ( Take care of yourself , bye ) . To say hello , we never say " ¿ qué pasa ? " , but " ¿ qué pasó ? " ( pretty much like " what ' s up ? 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http://forums.trailvoy.com/showthread.php?t=74396 | Welcome Enthusiast ! If you already own a Chevy TrailBlazer or GMC Envoy or perhaps thinking of purchasing such a vehicle , then you have come to the best TrailBlazer and Envoy site on the net ! Rainier , Bravada , Ascender , and 9 - 7x owners welcome too ! You are currently viewing our site as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features . By joining our free community you will have access to search and post topics , communicate privately with other members , respond to polls , upload content , and access many other special features . 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The exhaust noise is still there , so I ' m guessing I have to replace the resonator also . The noise is coming right from the rear of the truck . I gave the cat and manifold a good look over and could n ' t find any cracks or anything . . . It actually was a pretty easy project . The hardest part was hacking off the old one and removing the stupid rubber hanger from the muffler . Attached Thumbnails Remove Advertisements Sponsored Links TrailVoy . com Advertisement 2 05 - 31 - 2010 , 11 : 27 PM chevtrlblzr TrailVoy Alumni 2005 Chevy TrailBlazer LT Black 4.2L I6 4X4 Join Date : Feb 2008 Location : SE Pa Posts : 1,339 You made it sound easy ( and it should be ) . Read the 7th post in this thread for my expeience with the same muffler . Only makes noise while driving ? As far as the resonator , I would just delete it . Plenty of info on that in the exhaust section ( a sticky ) . To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater . You currently have 0 posts . - Carlisle Truck Nationals Aug 5 - Aug 7 , 2011 - Was Awesome 3 06 - 01 - 2010 , 08 : 10 AM tfoley95 Junior Member 2002 GMC Envoy SLT Indigo Blue Metallic 4.2L I6 4X4 Join Date : May 2010 Location : Drummond , WI Posts : 7 Ha ! That ' s awesome ! Sorry . I do n ' t mean to laugh . I thought about eliminating the resonator , but A , my wife drives it , so it needs to be quiet as possible , and B I do n ' t have a pipe bender , and I ' d bet I ' d pay as much for a custom bent piece of pipe as a resonator . The only thing that concerns me is the pipe diameter . With a little tinkering I was able to get the exhaust pipe over the pipe coming out of the new muffler . I cranked the piss outta the clamp , so I know it ' s a tight seal . Now if I end up buying a resonator , will it be the larger diameter pipe that will still slide over the muffler pipe , or will it be the same diameter ? If it ' s the same diameter , I ' m screwed because I do n Oh , and when it makes noise is when the RPMs get between about 1500 and 2000 , right where it normally sits during regular driving . I can hear some noise at idle , but it gets really bad about 1500 or so . 4 06 - 06 - 2010 , 05 : 31 PM OK , so a resonator was purchased and added . With some " finess " the pipe off the back of the muffler fit inside the pipe from the resonator and clamped shut . Purrs like a kitten now . After I was done , I shook the old resonator , and heard lots of " stuff " rattling around on the inside . I ' m guessing whatever sound deadening material that they shove in there just deteriorated over time . I ' m glad I did this as opposed to just using a straight pipe . It ' s nice and quiet . . . Next step , ball joints ! 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http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4902624-DIY-Cooling-Fan-Replacement | Search Help Remember Me ? Forum Technical ( VW & Audi ) 2.0T FSI , TSI , and TFSI ( EA113 ) Engine Forum DIY : Cooling Fan Replacement Page 1 of 2 1 2 Last Results 1 to 25 of 38 Thread : DIY : Cooling Fan Replacement Thread Tools KIDVersion1 Banned Join Date May 10th , 2009 Location Hellertown , Pa Posts 3,878 Vehicles Veyron Super Sport DIY : Cooling Fan Replacement 05 - 28 - 2010 12 : 08 AM # 1 Yesterday I had to replace my driver ' s side cooling fan ( 1K0 959 455 DT ) and instead of having my bank account emptied , I bought the fan , through the dealer for a good price , and did it with a buddy . This is actually pretty simple and does not take very long . The dealer told me an hour and a half to replace one fan or two hours for both , which is a very generous amount of time . This is my first DIY so I hope it comes out well . The usual for a DIY still stands . . .do this at your own risk and this DIY is merely a guideline and I am not responsible for any damage that may occur when you do it . Tools needed - T25 torx bit - T30 torx bit - 1 / 4 " socket - 10 mm socket - 3 " extension - Ratchet - 1 / 4 " ratcheting wrench - Car ramps or a jack and jack stands Estimated Time - 45 minutes with two people Step one I would recommend that the car is cool when you do this . We did not have this luxury so we had a fan blowing on it the whole time and we were fine . Raise your car , either by car ramps or with a jack . By the time mine was in the air , we had 15 " on clearance to the bumper which was plenty . Make sure all safety measures are taken to secure the car ( e - brake , in gear , wheel chocks , and jack stands ) . Step Two Remove the plastic oil pan cover via removing the eight T25 torx screws . Step Three There are four T30 torx screw holding the cooling fan mount to the car . Driver ' s Side Top ( next to the headlight and coolant hose ) Passenger ' s Side Top ( Next to the headlight and the noise pipe mount ) Driver ' s Side Bottom Passenger ' s Side Bottom The only one that is kind of tricky to get out is the Passenger ' s Side Top . I used the 1 / 4 " ratcheting wrench with the T30 torx bit to get to it . It ' s a tight fit ( that ' s what she said ) . Step Three Disconnect the power cable . You can see it from the top . . . . . .and from the bottom . My buddy said it was a little hard to get undone , but did n ' t take long . Step Four Once the four screws are out and the power clip is disconnected , the fan housing will freely slide downward . It may get caught up on some wires , but easy enough to free . Step Five With the housing out , it is time to take the fan off . This process will be the same for both the driver ' s side and passenger ' s side fan . For this , I replaced the driver ' s side . First , you will need to remove two clips , circled in red . They just pop off with a flat head screwdriver . Secondly , you will need to disconnect the power clip that connects the left fan to the right fan . Then , remove the three 10 mm nuts that hold the fan to the housing . Pull the wire out of the track , and the fan is ready to take out . From here , everything is a reverse process . Place the new fan in , tighten the nuts , plug in the fans , tuck the wire in the tracks , put those two metal clips back on , slide the housing back up in , put the four screws in , connect the fan power , replace the plastic oil pan cover , and you ' re done . Everything is plug and play and once everything is installed , the fan should work properly . I do n ' t have any torque specs on any of the I hope this was written well enough for someone else to understand . If you have any questions , feel free to ask me . And just because I can Sponsored Links Remove Advertisements Advertisements IMAN973 Member Join Date Jun 1st , 2006 Location Big Turbo Land NJ Posts 2,232 Vehicles 08 2.1L Fsi 67 ' d SFWD Gti , mk2 67 ' d VRT Jetta 05 - 28 - 2010 10 : 35 PM # 2 Nice diy FYI Be carefull with that red clip , dont break that connector . Joeydabomb Member May 1st , 2009 Louisville , KY 198 06 BMP GTI 05 - 30 - 2010 04 : 38 PM # 3 Yeah the top passenger side screw sucked to get out but overall it ' s not a hard job at all . Sponsored Links Remove Advertisements Advertisements KIDVersion1 Banned May 10th , 2009 Hellertown , Pa 3,878 Veyron Super Sport 05 - 30 - 2010 09 : 13 PM # 4 Yeah it did . Patience was key . jakellama123 Oct 11th , 2009 north phoenix 1,606 2008 335i ( FBO ) , 2004 Golf , 1965 Mustang , 2013 Civic 06 - 05 - 2010 05 : 00 PM # 5 Originally Posted by Yeah it did . Patience was key . damn wasnt sure if u could buy just 1 fan i cracked both fans so i just replaced the whole assembly 06 - 05 - 2010 09 : 08 PM # 6 And I ' m sure that whole assembly with fans cost about $ 500 , right ? OOOO - A3 Jul 19th , 2004 NAT HLA 8,710 2013 Volt 06 - 06 - 2010 08 : 43 PM # 7 Why did you replace the fan - was it not running , or was it due to blade damage ? My passenger - side fan does n ' t work , and the driver ' s side comes on a full - blast most of the time , even with a stone - cold engine on startup on a cold winter day . I ' d like to be able to just replace the pax side fan and have the problem cured , but I ' m suspicious that if I did that , the actual problem would be something else ( controller , etc . ) I replaced the coolant temp sensor with no effect . The temperature gauge 06 - 06 - 2010 09 : 16 PM # 8 From what I was told , the passenger fan runs off of the driver ' s fan . So if your driver ' s fan stop working ( in my case the motor was shot ) the passenger one will not work . But if you ' re saying the driver ' s does work , then you ' ll probably need to replace just the passenger one . . .which is a good thing because that is the cheaper of the two . INYNN Apr 14th , 2008 Ontario 816 2008 / VW / GTI 06 - 07 - 2010 01 : 54 AM # 9 This was helpful , add to the DIY FAQ thing . www . trailerblocks . com CanadianJetta2 . 0T Sep 14th , 2006 Montreal , QC 262 2006 VW Jetta 2.0T ( sold ) , 2012 Audi S4 ( sold ) , 2018 Atlas Execline 06 - 25 - 2010 10 : 48 PM # 10 Thanks for the DIY . My driver fan was running like crazy , while the the passenger fan was fully stopped . I changed the passenger side and all is well . Took me around 1 hour for the fan + cabin filter under the glove box . For anyone looking into doing this DIY , please note that there is three ( 3 ) part number for this fan , depending on your VIN . Mine was 1K0 959 455 ET Also , shop around . My local dealer in Quebec was selling it at 310 $ CAD . I ordered it through a dealer in Ontario ( H2Sport ) for 168 $ CAD + added a cabin filter ( 18 $ ) + shipping ( 29 $ ) + only 1 tax since I ' m out of Ontario , for a total of 225 $ . . . What a difference ! iGen3 Mar 21st , 2002 1,233 Thanks for the DIY 06 - 26 - 2010 07 : 34 PM # 11 I actually overheated last week in DC , got the STOP NOW MIL message and all , then it actually overflowed . small fan was n ' t working . popped the shroud , dremel ' d off the tabs holding the motor can lid on , to find one of the 2 brushes simply hung up on some sand / grit . blew it out , cleaned things up , put it back together and all better now , cost : $ 0.00 . joantlim Junior Member Aug 19th , 2008 40 Reply on the DIY Cooling fan replacement 08 - 02 - 2010 12 : 03 PM # 12 Thanks for the pictures and tips Kidver . 1 . I just replaced my cooling fans on my Mrk . IV jetta with the help of my pops two days ago . Gotta tell ya , we both had a hard time taking those suckers out . It took us almost the entire day just to take them down cause we ran some issues with the old screws that mount them . Two of them broke cause they were rotten old . So we had to make a custom mount on the radiator . Fortunately , the other two were swornham n00b Aug 16th , 2011 2 need pics from the DIY 08 - 16 - 2011 06 : 44 PM # 13 Does anyone have the images from this DIY ? Tvp125 Mar 3rd , 2008 Palm Beach , FL 227 B8 Audia4 08 - 17 - 2011 04 : 52 PM # 14 I need to replace my passenger side fan and there dealer told me they were not sold individual and were sold as the whole assembly . Auto Zone had no fan motors in there system for the 2.0t . 2012 Audi A4 S - Line Frankenturbo F23L EuroDyne Software HotRodDodge May 1st , 2011 Newmarket On 307 2006 Jetta wolfsburg 08 - 17 - 2011 08 : 33 PM # 15 Nice write up ! only thing i do differnt is when i take mine out i take them out the top , dont need the car up nearly as high that way . I to like iGen3 just took my small fan apart and fixed it myself , same problem just had one of the brushes stuck . Cleaned it all up and and has been working for 2 months without a problem . 06 Jetta Wolfsburg in GLI clothing ! Chadd Jan 27th , 2003 Phialdelphia 243 2012 Passat SE 08 - 18 - 2011 04 : 49 PM # 16 Originally Posted by Tvp125 I need to replace my passenger side fan and there dealer told me they were not sold individual and were sold as the whole assembly . Auto Zone had no fan motors in there system for the 2.0t . They are not sold in pairs . I replaced both of mine but could have bought separately . Try a different dealer . I bought for Audi from a VW dealer . As mentioned before you may be able to get it working again . A hammer did it for me . It ' s nice to have the new fans bit I liked the $ 600 better . ponchoboy Sep 12th , 2002 110 08 - 23 - 2011 10 : 18 PM # 17 Are the tabs that need to be Dremeled off on the back of the fan assembly fairly obvious ? If not , anyone got pictures ? HotRodDodge May 1st , 2011 Newmarket On 307 2006 Jetta wolfsburg 08 - 24 - 2011 05 : 51 PM # 18 ponchoboy Are the tabs that need to be Dremeled off on the back of the fan assembly fairly obvious ? If not , anyone got pictures ? I didnt cut anything off mine i just pryed the cover off and it went back together easy 06 Jetta Wolfsburg in GLI clothing ! 67dcab Junior Member Feb 6th , 2011 MA 38 67DCab , 08 Rabbit , 04 Jetta Wagon Broken fan blade in MA 10 - 17 - 2011 09 : 20 PM # 19 Anyone if you have a good blade and a dead motor I am looking for the blade for a 1K0959455FJ HELP Chadd Jan 27th , 2003 Phialdelphia 243 2012 Passat SE 10 - 18 - 2011 12 : 37 AM # 20 67dcab Anyone if you have a good blade and a dead motor I am looking for the blade for a 1K0959455FJ HELP PM sent division12 Dec 5th , 2008 33 11 - 19 - 2011 09 : 31 PM # 21 How can one tell if its the smaller fan that is not working ? from the short amount of time i was observing it , it was n ' t turning . Any way to test it for sure ? I tried turning it manually and it is not stuck . My driver ' s side fan ( bigger one ) gets loud . . . I ' m just concerned that the bigger one needs replacing also as I read there ' s a control unit on it to turn the smaller fan ? 11 - 19 - 2011 10 : 04 PM # 22 division12 How can one tell if its the smaller fan that is not working ? from the short amount of time i was observing it , it was n ' t turning . Any way to test it for sure ? I tried turning it manually and it is not stuck . My driver ' s side fan ( bigger one ) gets loud . . . I ' m just concerned that the bigger one needs replacing also as I read there ' s a control unit on it to turn the smaller fan ? Unplug the small fan and apply 12v . The Plug for the small fan has only 12v + and negative . Dec 5th , 2008 33 10 : 21 PM # 23 Unplug the small fan and apply 12v . The Plug for the small fan has only 12v + and negative . Also maybe worth mentioning is when I ' m parked and I turn on the AC . . .this is also triggers the big fan to accelerate . . .it starts to slow down as soon as I turn of the AC . I found the complete assembly including both fans for $ 250 . . .I ' m wondering if its just easier to replace everything . The small fan alone from VW is close to $ 200 . BTW , could I pull out the assemby from the top ? Somebody mentioned they did it this way . I have 2008 Rabbit btw . 10 : 42 PM # 24 At that price I would replace both . I pulled mine down and out the bottom with the car on ramps . You will still have to go under to get the 2 bottom screw and the connector . It ' s one of the easier jobs to do one these cars . 10 : 51 PM # 25 At that price I would replace both . I pulled mine down and out the bottom with the car on ramps . You will still have to go under to get the 2 bottom screw and the connector . It ' s one of the easier jobs to do one these cars . I only have standard jacks . .I hope I can get enough clearance . So all you took out was the belly pan ? what about the bumper grill ? 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http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5143813-Headliner-Repair-Cost | Register Search Help Remember Me ? Forum VW Model - Specific Forums Golf II & Jetta II Headliner Repair Cost Results 1 to 18 of 18 Thread : Headliner Repair Cost Thread Tools Search Thread Display pOnCh650 Junior Member Join Date Nov 11th , 2008 Posts 44 Headliner Repair Cost 01 - 03 - 2011 09 : 24 PM # 1 What is the range for an estimate ( parts and labor ) . Foam is intact , headliner sagging . Reply With Quote Sponsored Links Remove Advertisements Advertisements Tucked Member Join Date Jun 12th , 2007 Location Iowa , USA \ PEI , Canada Posts 4,158 Vehicles Mk1 \ Mk2 01 - 03 - 2011 09 : 31 PM # 2 Last quote I got was $ 250 Custom Obsessions . com I ' m sheep as hell . Reply With Quote twinrado Member Jun 23rd , 2005 Location Roseville ( St . Paul ) 1,758 Vehicles Corrado , Audi A6 , Passat 09 : 31 PM # 3 depends on the upholstery fabric you plan on using and the glue and this can be a DIY which is to hard imoldgregg Feb 7th , 2010 803 09 : 33 PM # 4 roughly $ 20 for fabric $ 10 - $ 20 on glue depending on what you use $ 3 for sos pads Tucked Jun 12th , 2007 Iowa , USA \ PEI , Canada 4,158 Mk1 \ Mk2 09 : 34 PM # 5 Originally Posted by Last quote I got was $ 250 I should add , this is at a professional upholstery shop . Custom Obsessions . com I ' m sheep as hell . EsotericRR Nov 8th , 2006 Southern WI 1,085 87 Golf GL 09 : 52 PM # 6 I would n ' t pay more than $ 100 bucks for a regular OEM type look headliner install if you take it to a shop and have the foam already cleaned . I took mine out , cleaned it and took it to a shop and that ' s what they charged me . 09 : 58 PM # 7 Originally Posted by EsotericRR I would n ' t pay more than $ 100 bucks for a regular OEM type look headliner install if you take it to a shop and have the foam already cleaned . I took mine out , cleaned it and took it to a shop and that ' s what they charged me . True , my brother did the same for around $ 60 . The quote I have was based on them doing all the work of taking it out , cleaning it , new materials and then putting it back up . Mr . V_Dub Oct 30th , 2010 Vancouver , B.C . 845 2002 Vw Jolf 10 : 06 PM # 8 DIY ! 20 for fabric and everything else you should already have # Built Not Bought 2 . slow Jolf VegasJetta Nitrous is like a smokin hot chick with AIDS and Herpes . You REALLY wanna hit it , but are afraid of the consequences . . . urbancynic Apr 19th , 2007 Flagstaff , AZ 3,672 15 Jetta SE 10 : 12 PM # 9 Last quote I got was $ 250 Where the hell was that ? Best quote I got was for 300 IF I removed and installed the headliner myself . Thats why I ended doing it myself . Cost about $ 40 and wasnt too hard to do . Current : 2015 Jetta Previous : 84 Jetta , 00 Jetta TDI , 04 Frontier , 05 Tacoma , 01 Jetta , 05 GTI , 85 Jetta , 06 Tacoma , 81 Rabbit , 81 Rabbit , 86 GTI , 86 325e , 89 GLI , 99 Jetta , 73 Stupid Beetle , 89 GTI 16V , 92 Jetta , 74 F250 , 86 325es , 77 MGB , 73 C10 , 06 MCS , 11 Silverado , 13 Silverado , 13 GLI steveo27 Geriatric Member Aug 1st , 2005 Pittsburgh 46,359 2011 TRD Tacoma . Fake GLI . MK2 Unicorn 10 : 27 PM # 10 best DIY on how to recover your own headliner https : / / forums . vwvortex . com / showthrea . . . - dubgray - style give it a go yourself , its not too hard at all . just make sure you use GOOD glue , or itll sag the first hot day YOUR STICKER CLUB SUCKS Crooked Euros - Powered by Pabst and whiskey We Do It Big In P A fknlunatic Apr 16th , 2009 Enola pa 2,365 90 jetta gli vr6 , 99 mk3 jetta , 2001 chevy silverado 1500 , 1995 jetta 10 : 30 PM # 11 permatex makes a headliner glue which i found to be alot better then the 3m super77 . If you take your time it ' s pretty easy to do . Nov 8th , 2006 Southern WI 1,085 87 Golf GL 01 - 04 - 2011 11 : 50 AM # 12 You ' ll get varying prices for sure . I actually was in the process of doing mine with a tan suede but got pissed off when the glue was soaking through the material I bought so I said F it . Took it down the road and came back with this . then drove home to plot world domination with my weather domination machine Ickey Sep 6th , 2009 Richmond IN 2,561 97 Jetta VR 01 - 04 - 2011 12 : 39 PM # 13 Yea its hard to pay up that much dough to have a shop do it . Find a bud to help and have some saqw horses and good 3m adhesive can be had from any place . Moofluffen Dec 6th , 2004 7,470 01 : 14 PM # 14 I think my DIY ultra suede headliner cost me roughly $ 80 and a rainy Saturday ' s worth of time . Flick r GTI S40 A1an Mar 22nd , 2007 Florida 4,193 Bought not built . 02 : 01 PM # 15 You ' ll get varying prices for sure . I actually was in the process of doing mine with a tan suede but got pissed off when the glue was soaking through the material I bought so I said F it . Took it down the road and came back with this . then drove home to plot world domination with my weather domination machine COOOOOOOOBRAAAAAAA ! Is that the standard black headliner material ? Came out looking nice . 02 : 15 PM # 16 Thanks . Actually it ' s not black , it ' s the same dark blue as in the original interior came . The guy just happened to have one last piece of the blue material and that ' s what I chose . Yes , it ' s headliner fabric with a little cushion to it . It ' s pretty much dead nuts with my dash and door panel accent deep blue . Jimvolks n00b Sep 28th , 2012 1 09 - 28 - 2012 01 : 46 AM # 17 pOnCh650 What is the range for an estimate ( parts and labor ) . Foam is intact , headliner sagging . Well best price I was able to find ( including shipping ) for the parts was $ 45 at headlinerfix . com . Once you got the kit + adhesive you have the options of either repairing it fully yourself , partially repairing it for a service discount , or bringing the kit + adhesive to a mechanic for parts discount . - If you decided to do it yourself , good news , headlinerfix . com has live installation support and guides to walk you through all the steps . - If you decided to partially do it yourself , I recommend going as far as removing the headliner board from your car , removing the old headliner fabric , and brushing the old adhesive off . This leaves the pasting as the only step you have to pay for . Reinstalling the headliner board is easy . - If you decided to try to bring the materials for a parts discount , make sure you get a full price for full service , then ask for a breakdown , and only then mention you already have the kit . Will likely be cheaper getting the kit online then from a shop / dealer . Average price for service labor + parts in shops nearby where I live : $ 250.00 if you negotiate a bit Good luck ! TehLonz Senior Member Oct 5th , 2006 21,428 09 - 28 - 2012 02 : 37 AM # 18 Jimvolks Well best price I was able to find ( including shipping ) for the parts was $ 45 at headlinerfix . com . Once you got the kit + adhesive you have the options of either repairing it fully yourself , partially repairing it for a service discount , or bringing the kit + adhesive to a mechanic for parts discount . - If you decided to do it yourself , good news , headlinerfix . com has live installation support and guides to walk you through all the steps . - If you decided to partially do it yourself , I recommend going as far as removing the headliner board from your car , removing the old headliner fabric , and brushing the old adhesive off . This leaves the pasting as the only step you have to pay for . Reinstalling the headliner board is easy . - If you decided to try to bring the materials for a parts discount , make sure you get a full price for full service , then ask for a breakdown , and only then mention you already have the kit . Will likely be cheaper getting the kit online then from a shop / dealer . Average price for service labor + parts in shops nearby where I live : $ 250.00 if you negotiate a bit Good luck ! Lol . Pineapplegti ! Brand enthusiasts are idiots . Klutch Republik Live Fast , Drive Hard SCCH Cylinder Heads & Suspension Components OSD # 16 Quick Navigation Golf II & Jetta II Top Previous Thread | Next Thread Forum VW Model - Specific Forums Headliner Repair Cost Posting Permissions You may not post new threads You may not post replies post attachments edit your posts BB code is On Smilies are On [ IMG ] code is [ VIDEO ] code is HTML code is Off Forum Rules For advertising information click HERE | [
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http://forums.watchuseek.com/f75/panerai-wrist-size-537903.html | Thread : Panerai wrist size LinkBack Thread Tools Page 1 of 2 1 2 Last Results 1 to 10 of 20 May 8th , 2011 # 1 prerid Member Join Date Feb 2009 Location United Kingdom Posts 348 Panerai wrist size Any Panerai owners having a wrist size of around 6.0 - 6.25 inches and wearing a 44mm Panerai . If yes , do post some pics of the watch on your wrist . I am curious to see if it looks ok or whether it looks big . Thanks in advance . May 8th , 2011 # 2 meliaser Member Join Date Apr 2011 Posts 119 Re : Panerai wrist size My wrist is n ' t much bigger than that . It ' s 6.5 . I love the size . WUS wo n ' t allow me to attach pics right now for some reason . Best way to know for sure if to go try one on yourself . May 9th , 2011 # 3 roguehog Dec 2010 Location The Tiny Red Dot 779 6.25 " Attached Images Sponsored Links Remove Advertisements WatchUSeek . com Advertisements May 9th , 2011 # 4 Willith Aug 2007 Aurora , CO 3,238 Re : Panerai wrist size I have ~ 8 " wrist : Cheers , Rob Keepers ( for now ) : PAM240J PAM285K PAM305O PAM321L PAM359M Omega PO ( 2200.50.00 ) Omega PO ( 232 . 32 . 46 . 21 . 01 . 005 ) Omega PO GoodPlanet GMT ( 232 . 30 . 44 . 22 . 03 . 001 Omega X - 33 Gen2 Omega Railmaster XXL Sinn U2 Sinn 857 UTC JeanRichard Terrascope ( black ) Anonimo Marlin ( # 11 / 198 ) Oris Aquis Ti Linde Werdelin The One ( # 10 / 88 black ) Kobold LSD Seiko SBDD003 Heroic18 M9600 LE Bronze Aerospace Advantage E79362 ( blue ) Bathys Benthic Ti ( black ) Casio ProTrek ( PAG - 240 ) Suunto Core ( regular red ) Suunto Core ( regular black ) Suunto X10M Suunto X - Lander ( Military ) May 10th , 2011 # 5 ePanerai12 Apr 2011 Philly , PA 57 6.18 ' ' Here . . . . My initial thoughts on PAM were just like yours which led me to a R . Submariner 3 years ago over a 111 . fast forward to 2011 , and the Sub is f * * * n out and the PAM is F * * * * n in . ( Kenny Powers ) Dont doubt you choice in 44mm Panerai for small wrists . But , food for thought , the first pic below is of my recently departed 312 . The 2nd is my 000 . The 1950 ' s case , while still 44mm , lays very differently on the wrist and has much more heft to it than the Luminor case . I greatly recommend the Luminor case over the 1950 ' s for small wrists . But get what you like ! just my toosense . Both look great but do wear very differently . I sold the 312 for this very reason . Attached Images Notches on my belt : Panerai 164G Luminor Marina Automatic - Active Hamilton Masterpiece Self - Winding Gold ( circa 1967 ) - Active Invicta Pro Diver 200M Coin Edge Auto SS / Black - Active Invicta Pro Diver 200M Quartz SS / Black - Active Tag Heuer Aquaracer 300M Calibre 5 Diver - Retired Rolex Air King 114200 SS 34mm - Retired Panerai 176L Luminor Base Titanio - Retired Panerai 005N Luminor Marina Logo - Retired Hamilton BelowZero 1000M SS Auto - Retired Panerai 380N Radiomir Black Seal Logo - Retired Omega Seamaster Professional 300 M Chronometer 2531.80 - Retired Omega Speedmaster Professional SS Ref 3573.50.00 - Retired Panerai 91D Luminor Marina Automatic SS / Ti - Retired Panerai 000N Luminor Base " Logo " SS - Retired Panerai 312L Luminor Marina 1950 3 Days Automatic SS - Retired Rolex Submariner 14060M Non - Date Non - COSC SS / Black - Retired Omega Seamaster Professional 300M Co - Axial Auto SS / Blue - Retired Omega Seamaster Professional 300M Quartz SS / Blue - Retired May 10th , 2011 # 6 SomethingReallyCool Feb 2010 Ireland 59 As ePanerai12 said , the 1950s case does appear bigger . . . . . .I tried a 312 & it did n ' t work for me ( 6.75 wrist ) , whereas the 111 sat much better . Try them all ( just for the fun ! ) , but definitely try the standard Luminor case if you do n ' t like the 1950s one . May 11th , 2011 # 7 prerid Feb 2009 United Kingdom 348 my wrist looks identical to the last pic . i too have a 6.20 wrist . had doubts and now finally got a pam111 . yes the 1950 case is slightly larger in appearance . thanks friends . now i too am a happy owner of the pam111 . and a satisfied one too . May 11th , 2011 # 8 are you using the small rubber strap or the normal size . the normal does not fit me : ( # 9 jooboy Oct 2009 Colorado Springs 194 My wrist is right around 7 " so ca n ' t help you with wristshots . I have noticed , though , that my wrist cross - section is more oval than round , so there is more of a flat surface area for the watch to sit on . Not sure how other guys ' wrists are , but I think it makes the 1950 case sit a little better for me . Good luck ! Current : - Omega Aquaterra 2500B - Bell & Ross BR 03 - 92 - Panerai PAM 320 - Omega Speedmaster Pro ( Hesalite ) - Wish List : - IWC Portuguese Automatic or Manual - Wind - PAM 210 - Grail : Minute Repeater # 10 ePanerai12 Philly , PA 57 Originally Posted by are you using the small rubber strap or the normal size . the normal does not fit me : ( Interesting that you brought this up . . . . . . As since we have similar wrists , the OEM 115 / 75 straps are a pain in the ass for me . From the jewelers case , the 2nd to last hole is too loose and the last hole is too tight . I use the 2nd to last hole on the strap on the OEM calf leather after I have done my own little leather treatment process ( similar to breaking in a baseball glove ) . I assume this is what you are saying by " doesnt fit " , perhaps the 2nd hole is too loose or your desired hole produces too much tail . Either way , try my leather treatment process . I do it to all my OEM pam straps . Ill list it below , but please note , it will change your OEM overall look and you can " ruin " the OEM look of the strap if not done right . But like most leather , it can shrink it , so thats what i do . It also ePanerai12 ' s Leather Treatment Process ( I am not bill nye mind you ) 1 . ) Take strap off the watch and remove the buckle but leave the tubes in ( this is the most important step 2 . ) fill a glass or cup with hot water and dish soap . 3 . ) submerge the entier strap and let it soak for 45mins . The water should be cold by then 4 . ) Rinse the strap of with warm water and clean it by brusing with soap and a toothbrush 5 . ) Rinse it again to make sure you get all the soap off , this time in cold water . 6 . ) Wipe the surface water off ( the strap itself will be water logged ) 7 . ) Lay the strap out flat , with the inside facing up and blow dry it with blow dryer on high heat 8 . ) turn the strap over from time to time like your flipping chicken to get both sides nice and dry , but concentrate the majority of the drying to the inside part , this will make the strap curl up the right way and avoid wrinkles or cracks on the outside part , the part thats visible to you while on the wrist . 9 . ) drying takes a while , usually 10 - 15mins , so dont blow up the hair dryer or trip a circuit breaker . 10 . ) take 30 seconds every 5 mins during drying and roll the strap as it would lay on the wrist to make it pliable . it will feel like heaven at this point . Do not twist it or it will make wrinkles . Just roll it 11 . ) switch the drying to high cool for 5 mins so the strap will cool down , when done ( total drying time aobut 20mins ) it will still feel a tad damp , this is ok . 12 . ) bend it in the direction that it lays on the wrist while applying a leather conditioner to both sides . Pick up any leather cream for car leather at a pep boys or whatever . 13 . ) do this until the strap feels " right " and conditioned . wipe off excess cream 14 . ) re - attach the buckle , reattach the strap to the watch and sleep with it on your wrist . 15 . ) By morning , you ' ll have a fitted and pliable OEM strap thats molded to you wrist . VOILA - You may notice even the next morning that the strap may feel a slightly damp ( due to the conditioner ) and even a tad wider and thicker , this is a good thing . This positions of the strap during drying must be followed in order for it to shrink lengthwise but not the widthwise . Again I am no scientist , but it works . Ive done it 5 times or so to OEM straps and measurements back up my process . 48 hours later it should be bone dry . Dont do . . . - When the strap is cooling or you done drying , do not bend it " against the grain " or you will cause permanent creases on the outside and it ' ll look poor . My first OEM gold calf leather ( the one you have ) i did this to and it looked like very rustic when done , although I wear that one the most now ! ! ! ! its got much character . Hope this helps . Notches on my belt : Panerai 164G Luminor Marina Automatic - Active Hamilton Masterpiece Self - Winding Gold ( circa 1967 ) - Active Invicta Pro Diver 200M Coin Edge Auto SS / Black - Active Invicta Pro Diver 200M Quartz SS / Black - Active Tag Heuer Aquaracer 300M Calibre 5 Diver - Retired Rolex Air King 114200 SS 34mm - Retired Panerai 176L Luminor Base Titanio - Retired Panerai 005N Luminor Marina Logo - Retired Hamilton BelowZero 1000M SS Auto - Retired Panerai 380N Radiomir Black Seal Logo - Retired Omega Seamaster Professional 300 M Chronometer 2531.80 - Retired Omega Speedmaster Professional SS Ref 3573.50.00 - Retired Panerai 91D Luminor Marina Automatic SS / Ti - Retired Panerai 000N Luminor Base " Logo " SS - Retired Panerai 312L Luminor Marina 1950 3 Days Automatic SS - Retired Rolex Submariner 14060M Non - Date Non - COSC SS / Black - Retired Omega Seamaster Professional 300M Co - Axial Auto SS / Blue - Retired Omega Seamaster Professional 300M Quartz SS / Blue - Retired Page 1 of 2 1 2 Last Tags for this Thread panerai size wrist View Tag Cloud Posting Permissions You may not post new threads You may not post replies post attachments edit your posts BB code is On Smilies are On [ IMG ] code is [ VIDEO ] code is HTML code is Off Trackbacks are Pingbacks Refbacks Forum Rules | [
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http://forums.webmd.com/3/autism-support-exchange/forum/437 | WebMD Home Communities Autism Support Community Save Member - created Autism Support Community Whether you have received the diagnosis or in pursuit of one , get support and . . . more Last Reply : 3 years ago 8 years ago ADVISE ON HOW TO LIVE WITH HUSBAND WITH ASPERGER ' S SYNDROME An_239414 posted : I have been with my husband 10 years and have just realized he may have aspergers . I knew from the start he was different in the way he acted but there was something about the inner warmth he gave me that I fell in love with and ca n ' t seem to walk away from . He would often do things that really hurt my feelings and then say he did n ' t know what the big deal was . I was and still am a very insecure person on the inside and this behavior has n 1 2 3 4 5 8 years ago Bioguy22 responded : I have a suggestion for a support group ; its called " Wrong Planet " its a website that connects people living with autism together filled with advice , forums and current events . That would be a good place to look for help . In terms of literature , I would suggest " Look me in the eye " by John Alder Robinson . He has Aspergers and his book helped me understand what having Asperger ' s syndrome meant ( I have it as well ) . I am sure it will help you understand your husband ' Let me know how it goes . Bioguy22 2BHopeful responded : I ca n ' t offer any advice , but I was so glad to know that I am not alone in having a spouse who also has symptoms of Aspergers as well as our 17 year old son . Reading your story was like a chapter out of my own life . I too am seeking a support group to learn better coping skills . It is good to know that I am not losing my mind and that the things I see & feel are not imaginary . Will gladly pass on information that I come across . 7 years ago ImSICKtooNOW GET OUT NOW ! I am going thru the same nightmare and have for a few years . I am as close to the fetal position as I can get . IT does NOT matter anymore WHY , WHAT , or BECAUSE anymore . There are plenty of illnesses that makes people abusive , hurtful and a danger to others . Aspergers is one of them . Aspergers in a mate will steal Your LIFE , Self worth , strength , future , happiness , dreams , voice , EVERYTHING . It will make you very ill . There are 7 years ago SitBegPlayDead replied to ImSICKtooNOW ' s response : I was so moved by reading your post than I created an account so I could reply . Everything you say is true . I have lived it for over 37 years and am also in an emotional fetal position , if not a true physical one . Your advice is absolutely correct but you will never hear this from a therapist . I have such bitterness toward the psychologist who saw my husband and me ( as well as both our children ) for 15 years . His main goal was to keep our family together when what really FrenchMaid replied to SitBegPlayDead ' s response : I am now just realizing that I am married to a man that has Asperger ' s . He has n ' t been officially diagnosed but I have dragged him to psychiatrists and psychologists . Our marriage counselor suggested he seemed to be " aspie " like and his psychiatrist says he has a " deficit " . We ' ve been married for over 5 years but I have completely lost the feeling of what it feels like to be " connected " to someone . He has never really " let me in " and he is even slightly paranoid . His way of thinking is quite bizarre and sometimes down right baffling . Our sex life has never been great and in general , his libido is low . He has no friends , just acquaintances . I am a passionate , positive and empathetic person . He has ZERO empathy . He can be I worry about divorce because I can see that he would be down right evil . It ' s nice to know I am not alone but at some point , I plan to get my life back . mommarose74 FrenchMaid I have to say , this whole discussion saddens me . I was married to a person I know deep down has Asperger ' s for 9 years . We had 4 children together . It was n ' t until a year after the divorce , when I first heard of Asperger ' s in trying to find out what was going on with my oldest son , that I realized that this was what my ex husband has . Now Ive gone back and forth between narcissism and Asperger ' s for him , because they are so It ' s true , that life married with an Aspie ( If this is what my ex husband has ) is lonely , it makes you feel worthless . Divorce with children of a person with Asperger ' s is 10 times worse . You can not make mistakes , because it will be amplified . Professionals not realizing what they have before them , inadvertently can wreak havoc , by simply making suggestions . It saddens me though , because my son was finally diagnosed , and to hear people talk about NEVER marry a person with Asperger ' s makes me sad for my sons future . There are a lot of social skills therapies , but are there therapies to teach how to make a relationship work ? I dont want this to be my sons future , but I also do n ' t want anyone to go through what I have . Mama6 Dear Imsicktoonow , Oh my goodness , you hit the nail right on the head . It took me close to 20 years to finally figure out what was wrong with my husband . . . .he ' s an undiagnosed high functioning autistic . Me & my six young kids have been stuck in a nightmare . I knew my husband had absolutely zero social skills , zero communication , zero caring or empathy , he could never relate to me or anyone , he did n ' t take care of himself - appearance - wise , or the maintenance on francess84 mommarose74 I do n ' t know what to say . I feel this whole discussion is a nightmare . Firstly to mommarose74 . My husband claims to be happy with me . I am 28yo and was only diagnosed last week with High - Functioning Autism . Half of my own family do n ' t believe the diagnosis . My husband believes it , but he constantly tells me he ' s happy and would rather be with me than without . I hope that is some hope for your son . On the other hand , have you all just told me that I need to leave my husband for his own good ? We have 2 children - 2yo and 4mo . Are you telling me that I am going to only make their lives miserable and my only option is to live alone for the remainder of my life ? I have always worried about how my problems are effecting my husband and how they might effect my children . My husband tells me to stay . I want to stay . Are you telling me to leave ? I am so shocked at hurt by the remarks that everyone with a spouse with ASD should " get out now " . Do you have any idea how hard I work at trying to be better ? Ive exhausted myself and I fail at it daily but I try . You all knew what you were getting into when you married these people . They have n ' t changed . We are unable to change ( despite my many efforts ) . If it was all bad , why did you bother marrying them ? I do n ' t understand but I am truly hurt . daghda francess84 Get out of these relationships if you can , you will NEVER be happy . Do not leave it until you are too old to leave . Autie / neurotypical relationships , on the whole , are a catastrophe and , as they , the auties , get older they get worse . My family is full of them , I have lived with one for ten years and before that i lived with another for 16 years . This one went undiagnosed and I fell in love with him before I realised he was high funcitoning aspergers . This time I may not be able to get out , I have no money , no friends , no family and no support at all . My partner is absolutely brutal , he has ruined all my friendships , GET OUT NOW , if you can , bite the bullit and set up a new life . Do not end up like me with no money to get away and set up again . I can not say this enough . No neurotypical can take the kind of verbal abuse these people dole out . It will make you ill , it has made me very ill indeed . We are about to go into another christmas of misery . I used to be able to make the effort , have a life outside the relationship , but , as the business we So , get out now before you end up like me . daghda My heart broke when I read your post . I am in a similar position and like yourself leaving would take me to a below poverty line existence . I spent the today working it out . My self esteem is at an all time low . My partner is so abusive right now and for the first time he has started meds , as his depression has got much worse , he is a week into citralopram and has been an utter nightmare to live with . It runs in his family and they are all self destructive . patricia1212 Francesca I do n ' t know if you are still looking at this blog . I would n ' t be surprised if you have run away from it , but in case you are . . . . . I am married to a man , for 15 years , who I now believe has Asperges syndrome . It has not always been obvious , because I did n ' t know much , if anything , about it , and it is only in learning about the syndrome that it has become obvious to me that the characteristics of someone with Asperges fit him perfectly . I do not plan to leave my husband . In my understanding I can not leave a drowning man ( a sentiment I thought about before any clue about Asperges being a possibility ) . And although I can not speak for others who have written on this blog , I believe he tries very hard to adapt to a world that he finds confusing and impossible to understand . That said , it is n ' t easy . When I broached the idea with him , only a couple of days ago , he dismissed it in a Why am I saying all this to you ? I believe your husband when he says he is happy with you . I believe you try very hard to ' be better ' . But I find that in itself rather sad , as if you are being ' wrong ' . Maybe you are ' wrong ' in the conventional sense , but that is only because the average person has made the rules . I believe the diagnosis is only helpful if it helps those involved to understand each other better , and to bring compassion into what I admire the effort you have obviously put into conforming and trying to understand the world around you , over a longer period than only when you were diagnosed . I think your husband is very lucky , as are your children , and so are you . I believe there is SO much for the world to learn about the GOOD sides of ASD , and you are part of that process . Wishing you peace and rest and comfort in the love of your husband , and your children . CCMae patricia1212 Hi , this is my first time getting involved in an on - line discussion but I thought I would throw it out there . I ' m married to an undiagnosed Aspie , after we actually got married all of the things started happening that everyone talks about . He left because I said I was n ' t going to move without any discussion at all . I wrote a letter to myself that was somewhat of a list - I married a man who . . . I married a man who . . . and all standingpretty Being married to someone who ' s autistic can be heaven sometimes and hell at other times . I would say it ' s impossible to be with an ASP unless you train yourself to do so with good resources ( I will get into that at the end of my post ) . The best resources I have found come from my husbands family - I am married to an aspie . I am NT . Let me start off by saying that some of the really negative things people say on forums are true at times . There will be times where you feel neglected , wondering why they are being so mean , wondering if the relationship is worth staying in and so on . When you do n ' t know how emotional / situational things work for someone with AS and as someone who is ( probably ) neurotypical , you will question their terrible behavior - as would anyone who is NT . When dealing with AS , you have to legitimate disability . Even though AS people are usually highly intelligent , for some reason they can not perceive how their negative actions hurt and confuse those around them - even though it would seem obvious to pretty much all NT people . I will give you some brief summaries on behaviors some ASP exhibit and some reasoning behind them before listing some resources that were helpful to my marriage . Sometimes , your AS partner will seem like they ' re ignoring you . I recently read an article where a woman talked about dating a man with AS . In the article , she said that there was this one time where her dad was having a health issue and she really needed the support and when she tried to contact her AS bf , he ignored her email . Ultimately , she ended the relationship because of this . To NT people , this is a rude and callous action and a form of abandonment . There have been times where I have tried to contact my husband and I could sensory overload and it will push them away ; or they may act irritated with you . Do not take it personally if someone who has AS does not want to spend a lot of time with you , it ' s just that their AS makes them feel overwhelmed by the emotions people give them and can not handle it all the time . You also must understand they wo n ' t always be there when you need them . They may not relate to other ' s feelings at times and may come across as cold . Aspies have trouble both understanding and relating emotions . Sometimes , they can say something so mean and not understand how it would hurt someones feelings . One time , my husband threatened divorce and I was crying and really wanted to be held , but he did n ' t want to hold me and comfort me . On top of that , he yelled at me a few times for what seemed like no reason . I was hurt , and he acted like he did n ' t care . His actions did n ' t The book I have used that is particularly helpful for romantic relationships with aspies is " 22 Things a Woman Must know If she loves a man with Asperger ' s Syndrome " . It has helped me salvage a relationship with my AS husband and I am now happy with our relationship . Porqueno This is well - put and right - on . THANK YOU . 1 2 3 4 5 Back to Top Home Staying Informed My Watchlist Related Parenting Communities All Communities Community FAQs Crisis Assistance Stay Informed with Newsletters Get the Parenting & Children ' s Health newsletter and get useful parenting tips and health news you need to keep your little ones happy & healthy . | [
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http://forums.webmd.com/3/cold-and-flu-exchange/forum/4876/26 | WebMD Home Communities WebMD ® Ear , Nose & Throat Community Save WebMD - moderated WebMD ® Ear , Nose & Throat Community Last Reply : 3 years ago Includes Expert Content 8 years ago Foggy Head / Disconnected Feeling An_239484 posted : I have had a sinus / ENT issue for about 9 weeks now . My ears feel full and pop constantly . I have a post nasal drip . Intermittent sinus and head pressure . The strangest part is a feeling of being disconnected or having a foggy head that has accompanyied it for the entire 9 weeks . Can this be caused by a sinus or ENT problem ? I have an appointment to see an ENT but they ca n ' t get me in for 5 weeks and I ' m becoming very frustrated with feeling this way . 1 2 3 4 5 8 years ago Rod Moser , PA , PhD responded : Five weeks to be examined would frustrate anyone . . . . Can you be seen by your primary care provider before that time ? Post - nasal drainage ( from the sinuses ) can compromise the normal function of your Eustachian tubes . This can cause ear fullness . The popping may be your e - tubes trying to equalize middle ear pressure . Sinus infections can be " chronic " - lasting a long time if not properly treated . This can certainly cause the head pressure . The term " foggy head " is really a bit vague for me to really comment . Do you have allergies or work around people ( especially children ) that may have lots of colds ? Allergies are a common underlying issue , and frequent or back - to - back colds can overload your sinuses and set the stage for infections . hjrasool replied to Rod Moser , PA , PhD ' s response : I ' ve seen my primary care physician twice . She recommended Mucinex which I tried . It did n ' t help . She thinks it is a viral issue and I need to wait it out . I ' m certainly willing to wait it out but the foggy headedness is my biggest concern . I agree that the description is vague . I wish I could express the feeling better . I feel like I ' m 80 % there and just a bit off . A bit disconnected from my surroundings . I do n ' t know if this could be related to the sinus and ear issues or that is not even possible . I do have allergies but not very often and they ' ve never taken this form ( disconnected feeling ) . I started taking Zyrtec this past Monday . Should I start feeling relief within 4 days if it is allergy related ? replied to hjrasool ' s response : I really do not have enough information about your case to be able to predict outcome . Viruses typically just last a week . . . .not NINE weeks , so allergies certainly may be contributory . . I hope the ENT is about to get a handle on your foggy , disconnected feelings . Again , I really do n ' t know what you are experiencing . . .I am sorry . Winterblue2 hello hjrasool . I was reading your post about this disconnected feeling that you have . The way I read it , you seem to have doubts about this feeling being related to sinus problems . I am going to go out on a limb here and ask if you have any anxiety or depression issues ? Just a shot in the dark , but I have experienced this " feeling " myself . There is an explanation for it and I happen to have anxiety / depression issues myself . If this is totally out of the question I ' m outta here . Like I wrote , just a thought . Take care now . Winterblue2 Honestly , at this point I ' m not going to rule anything out . I ' ve never had anxiety or depression problems in the past . But it ' s been 4 months now and to say I ' m frustrated would be an understatement . I ' ve been to my primary care physician , an ENT and nuerology . They ca n ' t seem to find the cause . I became sick one weekend with extremely plugged ears , my lungs were burning and painful and my throat felt really tight . Ever since then I ' ve been fatigued , pressure in face , plugged ears , and the foggy - headed feeling I mentioned . The foggy headed feeling seems to get worse later in the day and is more prevelant if I exert myself throughout the day . Hello again . I wish I could help you more with that . I have been really sick with what the doc thinks is chronic sinusitis . From the post nasal drip , only one of my ears has been affected . My lungs seem to be fine , except my chest feels heavy and a little achey at times but I know it ' s my sickness that is causing my anxiety to soar therefore the chest discomfort . I have been having quite a few anxiety episodes throughout the day since being sick . Just another thought . If you are taking anti - depress / anxiety meds plus meds for your current problem , this could be a possibility . I am not a doctor and thought I ' d just try and help ya figure this out . So sorry you are having such a hard time getting to the bottom of this . The frustration I feel with not being able to shake this I can sympathize . If you find the culprit let us know , meanwhile , if I should happen to stumble across anything that might help , I ' ll let you know . You take care ! ! I ' ll be sure to keep you posted . I know how frustrating this can be and hope you find some answers too . I had balloon sinuplasty to open up my maxillary sinus about 3 weeks ago . It has relieved some of the pressure but not all of it . I still have pressure behind my nose and above the roof of my mouth . My ears are better than they were a few months ago but still not normal . The fatigue and feeling disconnected are the most frustrating . I ' m hoping they go away on their own after time . I ' m not sure that will happen though . I think whatever is causing all the pressure is resulting in fatigue and affecting my entire system . An_241750 responded : I ' m willing to bet there ' s a connection because i have the same exact thing and came here trying to find out if my sinus infection is causing me to feel disconnected as well . I feel like my brain is foggy . My perception has changed . Almost as if i am under the influence of a drug . Similar to the atmosphere / perception change that occurs when you get laughing gas at the dentist . JCantebury replied to An_241750 ' s If I am correct , the term you are looking for is " Derealization " and it is the kind of ting that gets worse the more you think about it . If you go " wow , things really are starting to feel strange or unfamiliar or unreal " then it will get progressively worse . If you are ignore it and distract yourself with something to concentrate it gets better . I have noticed I almost ALWAYS get feelings of derealization when I have issues with middle ear / sinus etc . but I question whether or not JCantebury I ' m not sure if the sinus infection is the cause of the disconnected feeling or if both are symptoms of something else . As I stated before , this all started after a bad respiratory infection ( viral ? ) . I had balloon sinuplasty to open my maxillary sinus but there is a possibility the sinus issue was there before my respiratory infection . Additionally , a polyp was found in my nostril last week which was not there a month ago at the time of my surgery . I ' m currently on steriods for that . I can relate to feeling like you ' re drugged or intoxicated in some way . It feels as if I ' ve had a few drinks and am just a bit off . My perception , especially my vision seems to be the most effected . I ' m not sure if this is derealization or what . Up until 5 months ago I was a very active , healthy person with a very satisfying personal and professional life . I ' m not sure if derealization is a psychological symptom or the result of a physical issue . I ' m not going to rule it out but I do n ' t know much about it . I do n ' t seem to feel better or worse when I focus on it . It seems present constantly and inhibits what I ' m doing regardless of whether I am thinking about it or not . It ' s a constant " somewhat out - of - it " feeling ; somewhat disconnected . Seems to be the worst when I ' m driving or reading . Keep working closely with your medical providers . These more difficult diagnoses are done in " steps " , so your doctor really needs to stay involved . Do n ' t give up until you have some answers or a solution , and do n ' t let your doctor throw up his arms in frustration either . If he / she ca n ' t seem to help , see someone else for a second opinion . Thanks for the words of advice Dr . Moser . My current primary care provider is out of ideas . I ' m actually heading to the Mayo Clinic in AZ in January . This has been a very frustrating and humbling experience . I ' m still hopefull of a full recovery but after 5 months ( which is n ' t that long in the grand scheme ) it ' s hard not to feel helpless . Thanks again . You are approaching this problem appropriately . As a clinician , when I reach a diagnostic impasse , I refer patients to the best facility that I can find . . . .local or not . The way I look at things , the only difference in cost from seeing a local specialist ( who may not be the best ) to traveling 3000 miles to see someone who is considered the best , is the cost of transportation . . . .a plane ticket . If you have health insurance , make sure to get prior authorization , if this is required . Diagnostic workups can be pricey . Thanks for letting me know about the ballon sinuplasty . I hope it was not to unpleasant for you . I can certainly understand the fatigue as I have CFS and this sinus infection has really taken what ' s left out of me . The disconnected feeling has me stumped . I ' m familiar w / it but for me it was due to my depression / anxiety issues . It is hard to explain it if you have n ' t been there . Is the procedure supposed to clear things up right away or take awhile ? If you have been sick with this infection for some time , I ' m sure it can cause you to feel fatigue . Just realizing that this post was 3 weeks ago . Have n ' t been posting much , just sleeping . Unless I read it wrong , the polyp that was found after your surgery will be treated with a steriod ? No removal procedure I hope . Hope things have improved for you after all of this . 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http://forums.webmd.com/3/digestive-disorders-exchange/forum/1812 | WebMD Home Communities WebMD ® Digestive Disorders Community Save WebMD - moderated WebMD ® Digestive Disorders Community Last Reply : 10 years ago 10 years ago what is an angulated bowel ? jodi2125 posted : Im reviewing my CT results for the 100th time . one part there was evidence of angulated bowel . what is this ? what does this mean ? i tried googling it nad it came up with stuff I oculdnt understand . I made an appt with a dr out of Mt Sinai b / c I decided my local drs just cant help me anymore . thanks ! jodi jodi2125 responded : I also want to add that i think it said a small angulated bowel . . unknown responded : Jodi , think of a normal bowel as a series of ' gentle ' curves , especially if you ' re talking about the approx . 22 ft of small intestine . That ' s a lot of ' tube ' to stuff into one area . If you get an angulation , it means the ' gentleness ' of the curve is lost and instead you ' ve got something that could resemble a right angle - so more of a sharp turn . When that happens it ' s typically due to adhesions , or tacking of the jodi2125 responded : Thanks CalGal . I was thinking like a kink or something . I guess that could make sense given my history of adhesions . Noone mentioned it to me . When I had a hernia repair last yr all my dr said was my intetsines looked pink and healthy . Could this be something that gets fixed on its own ? Could it cause symptoms similar to IBS or IBDs . I always wondered if something was up . I have constnat D and when I take tonss of meds to stop it I get major reflux and feel like unknown responded : If it is an adhesion , no , unfortunately it wo n ' t fix on it ' s own . Yes , it could cause symptoms like IBS , but it depends on the person . Some people never really know they have adhesions . You might want to consider looking into work with someone with experience in visceral manipulation . It ' s a form of osteopathic medicine and individuals trained in that modality deal with adhesions on an almost weekly basis . In many cases the adhesions - depending upon placement - can be gently loosened which Renny1985 responded : Jodi - Obviously we need to be bowel buddies . I just looked at the colonoscopy report and mine says " angulated and redundant " as well . So much crap the docs dont mention , ya know ? Lemme know how it goes at Mt . Sinai , because I may be in need of a new doc once I chew this current one out lol . I am on my 7th or 8th GI doc by now . . . it makes me feel a little nutso . Good luck and keep us updated . Maybe we should renny , i posted on your other thread but aol decided to go crazy and poof , it was gone . in a nutshell , i said do the test . if insurnace will pay - go for it . i worked the day of mine and its by far the easiest test ! i posted other stuff too but notime to repeat now ! i go on the 19th . . . i dont have your email anymore so if you still have mone , shoot me a line . i dont have a throw away one so i Back to Top Visit the Digestive Disorders Health Center Home Staying Informed My Watchlist Stay Informed with Newsletters Sign up for the GI Disorders newsletter and keep up with all the latest news , treatments and research with WebMD . | [
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http://forums.webmd.com/3/digestive-disorders-exchange/forum/2176/1 | WebMD Home Communities WebMD ® Digestive Disorders Community Save WebMD - moderated WebMD ® Digestive Disorders Community Last Reply : 4 years ago 10 years ago Rapid Bowel Movements After Eating jctevere posted : After every time I eat a meal within 20 minutes I have the immediately go to the bathroom . I also become very bloated and " gassy " almost nauseous , but never threw up , only go to the bathroom and it goes away until I eat again . At first I thought I was lactose - intolerant ( because my sister 22 , just developed a severe case out of no where ) but it is n ' t just dairy that causes this , it is with any food . My brother of 25 also suffers from Sometimes it is normal bowel movement , other times it is diarrhea and normally I am finished with the movement in about 30 seconds in either case and done . But occasionally I get severe lower abdominal pain ( below my belly button , not on either side as appendix or spleen would suggest ) around my waist band area that does n ' t go away after the initial bowel movement and I am constipated . It keeps me having 3 - 5 trips back to the bathroom until I have explosive diarrhea and I am alleviated . I have pretty much learned to deal with it as I have had this the past 3 years or so ( 19 now ) . For the first 2 years it has caused weight - loss , but just recently , my hunger never gets satisfied because of this and I am starting to gain weight ( about 5 ' 5 " and 150 lbs ) . I never have any blood in my stool and I am a bit embarrassed to go to the doctor with my problem . Have not yet had a blood test either . I do n ' t know if this is of any importance , but when I wake up my tongue is yellow and the back of my throat hurts . I always have nasal drips , stuffy nose , mucus . Tonsil stones ( little horrbile smelling yellow squishy clusters that form in my tonsils and fall out when they get too big ) have also been occurring and began around the same time . Please let me know of any of the possible things it could be ? 1 2 10 years ago jctevere responded : I forgot to add that I also usually get dehydrated and have a metallic taste in my mouth . Also , when I have episodes where I become constipated and revisit the bathroom 4 - 5 times after I have recurring and violent diarrhea my rectum or anus burns , either from the excessive wiping , or from the diarrhea ? It helps if I massage my stomach and put my legs together and slightly lean forward . I am a 19year old male . . . Thanks for any help you can give me ! earthtonegirl responded : Argh , I typed this whole thing and it just disappeared . grrrr . . . Okay , Take Two : You definitely need to see a doctor - a gastro specialist . It sounds like you ' ve got something going on that needs treatment , and heck , sounds like you getting diagnosed could help the rest of your familiy as well . I ' m not saying this to scare you - not at all - in fact , getting a diagnosis means you know how to treat this thing . There are a lot of digestive disorders that have very similar symptoms - they can be hard to tell apart , esp over the internet - but The one thing that really calls to me ( but I ' m biased ) is Celiac Disease . That ' s an intolerance to wheat , barley , rye and ( some ) oats , which causes damage to the small intestine . That damage causes you to not absorb certain nutrients ( depending where the damage occurs ) and often leads to nutrient deficiencies and lactose intolerance . It can hit you " out of hte blue " at any age , but it ' s life - long and can wreaking havoc for years before you notice Again , I could n ' t possibly diagnose you by internet , even if I were a doctor . I ' m just saying the shoe seems to fit , and it ' s somethign you should ask your doctor about . There is a blood test that ' s more or less reliable ( It can miss a few people though ) . Be sure to ask your doc to run the " full Celiac panel " rather than just the single test ( IgA ) . The single test is not very reliable at all - lots Do you have any other conditions or does anything run in your family - even if they may seem completely unrelated to your gut ? Are you on any meds ? YoungMess I do n ' t remember what it ' s called , but it has something to do with rapid emptying . I would look into that . LilMissMerrySunshine replied to earthtonegirl ' s response : By the way , just to add to that , you are going to have to force yourself to get past feeling embarrassed talking to your doctor . As someone who has seen 4 GI docs over 5 years , I can tell you there is NOTHING these guys have n ' t seen or heard . You are not going to embarass them ! Trust me . I have often wondered what would lead someone into that field , because it ' s pretty freaking gross , but it does n ' t bother them at all ! And keep in mind as well - the longer you wait , the worse it will probably get , and the more information you will be sharing . I wonder if you and the sibs , since your symptoms are all similar , should n ' t get back - to - back appointments and all go together . Or if one or both of them have seen someone , perhaps go to the same GI doc they went to . It would probably be very helpful for a doctor ( although a little mean , too , but I would n ' t let that stop me ) to see all of you at once . Similar symptoms , almost obviously heridetary , etc . Just my I always recommend writing a list of symptoms and having a pen and paper with you when seeing a doctor . In your case , if you have trouble getting past that " TMI " feeling , take a copy for the doctor . Then the doctor can look at it and ask you relevant questions . If ( s ) he initiates the questions , you will likely feel much more comfortable . I have one doc who " cheats " and reads my notes upside down , so instead of making him a copy , I now angle them so he ca n ' t see them . It ' s a game we have . However , I sometimes get too much pleasure torturing doctors . It amuses me ! Good luck ! 8 years ago Garyneedshelp my daughter has these same sympdoms . What did you find out 8 years ago calgal37 replied to Garyneedshelp ' s response : Garyneedshelp , can you expand a bit on what ' s going on with your daughter ? Does she have rashes , ' brain fog ' , fatigue or other symptoms ? What has she been tested for ? What meds have been tried ? What has she tried on her own ? What GI issues run in the family ? It turns out that I am easily affected by the type of foods that I eat . I am definitely acid reflex . And I often wait a while before eating . Additionally , I have began to take fiber pills and it has helped out tremendously . Bottom line is : stay away from fast foods and fatty foods if you can , start fiber supplements or incorporate foods high in fiber , and drink plenty of water . Also , instead of eating a big meal or two a day . I will now eat throughout the day . So if I am having lunch I will only eat one hot dog instead of two and then get somethig to eat between lunch and dinner . Something small . Ensure shakes have helped out bridge the gap too . 7 years ago neeluxmth26 I have the exact same symptoms you do ! What do we have ? ! ? It ' s so annoying living like this . 7 years ago austintxgrl I have the same exact symptoms , I have already gone to see a G I doc , he ran all the tests possible and took stool samples aand sent them to a lab , all results came back normal , I have not been back bbecause I can not afford to , however , I am pretty sure that it is celiac disease , since the tests did not come back abnormal . . . .I am now following a gluten free diet , guess we will see how it goes dg19713 austintxgrl I have had these problems for years to include Larngopharyngeal reflux but all the Doctors keep telling me is it ' s IBS . I have had every test that you can name with the exception of celiac which will be checked soon . However , I have been told for years to learn how to control my emotions because emotions can also trigger IBS as well as various foods like : fatty foods , sauces , chocolate , milk to include soy milk , veggies / fruits that are high in acid , gassy veggies like beans , lettuce backgroundactor I am a 72 year old male . For the past few months , friends say I look like I am losing weight , but I am not . I weigh 165lbs . The problem - after eating , the food goes right through me . In one end and out the other , so to speak . Have you got any suggestions ? I know you are much younger , but need some advice . Thanks . An_247251 responded : You may want to check your home for mold issues . I have been doing alot of research on Black Mold poisoning and you have all the symtoms , well not all but alot . Look it up on google you will find all the information you need to know SOLVED : It turns out that it is just a really severe ( and new ) Lactose Intolerance . I have never been prior and apparently you can become intolerant over time . Here are some other symptons which I also experienced : - Occasional " wet " mucous farting - acid reflux , - alternating fits of constipation & diaharea - a compromised digestive system thus laying the groundwork for a body which is extremely susceptible to developing nose , throat , sinus , ear , bronchial , bladder and other infections as well . - Other symptoms you may be suffering from are mucous in the stools , bloating and cramping , digestive troubles such as constipation , belching and burping , gassiness and ribbony and stringy shaped bowel movements or rabbit pellet shaped movements are all symptoms of lactose intolerance . Ditch the milk and dairy products for a few days and pump up your intake of leafy and green vegies , broccolli , even carrotts and fresh fruit also , oranges are rich in calcium . Get your 10 - 15 mins daily of safe sun exposure ( vitamin D is essential for calcium absorption and is known as the sunshine vitamin ) . The calcium found in vegies and fruits has a greater impact on bone health than calcium from dairy products anyways . . . A study published in The Americal Journal of clinical nutrition ( 2002 ) found that a high intake of vegies and fruits has a positive impact on bone health , but dairy did not . Dairy products contain animal proteins , which speed the elimination of calcium from the body and make it more acidic . This can cause calcium to leach from the bones and cause problems with magnesium ( essential for healthy nerve and muscle Cow ' s milk contains proteins that are difficult for humans to digest ; when these undigested proteins enter the lower digestive system , they putrefy and cause digestive problems . Dairy products encourage the production of excess mucus in the body , burdening the respiratory , digestive and immune systems . Not surprisingly , when you ditch the milk and dairy people more often than not experience markedly fewer colds and sinus & respiratory infections . I know it ' s a big ask to ditch the milk and dairy , it was very hard for me to do so . Lactaid pills helped , but the problems only really ceased when I not only shifted from milk and dairy products , but also processed products in general . I have discovered that even foods you would never expect to affect you , actually contain milk or dairy ingredients and crop up your lactose issues . I hope that this could be of help to you all ! jcmay jctevere , Good to hear that you got a diagnosis . It would appear that your condition is beyond lactose intolerance and that you might in fact be allergic to the casein protein in dairy . I recently developped that problem its toook me 6 months before we figured it out and I had all the aganizing sysmptoms you described . You develop a true sense humility in talking about your symptoms . I have to avoid all dairy now , and as you mention dairy is in everything . Read the labels to avoid unintended exposure . Its in most bread , chocolate and other products . Look for a " vegan " designation on things . Not that you need to avoid meat . But be careful of processed products . I have since met with a nutritionist to ensure I get the proper nutrients now that my eating choice have been significantly impacted . She told me the same thing about the issues with dairy . She said she would have guided me away from dairy even if I did n ' t have the problem , as per the reasons you cited in your last post . You are correct that there are more efficient ways to get the viatmins and nutrients that we think we get from dairy , mnay more ways . 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http://forums.webmd.com/3/food-and-cooking-exchange/forum/933 | WebMD Home Communities WebMD ® Food & Cooking Community Save WebMD - moderated WebMD ® Food & Cooking Community Last Reply : 3 years ago 13 years ago never thirsty . daughter1984 posted : I ' ve noticed over the last couple of years that I do n ' t get thirsty , at least not nearly to the same degree as other people . I live in a desert area where it is dry and hot most of the year . Doctors are always telling everyone to take water with them for fear of dehydration . I have been hospitalized twice and twice given spinal taps because I was in stage 2 of shock caused by dehydration . I just do n ' t know when to drink water . I do get I ' ve become increasingly interested as to why I might have this problem . I ca n ' t keep going to the e.r. for this , I need to figure out how to beat it . I ' ve tried bottles of water , and having a glass at my desk , but I actually forget to drink it . I do n ' t have that urge , so I do n ' t think about it . The only time I do drink it is when I know I have n ' t had it in Also , I have very low blood pressure ( lowest was 60 / 30 when hospitalized ) , I get leg cramps often , I feel lethargic , moody , headaches , and my hands and feet get icy cold but I do n ' t really feel it unless I touch them to another part of my body . What can I do ? Is this a severe problem ? Should I ask my doc about it ? I ' ve looked online and I cant find anything that talks about not being thirsty . There is a lot about excessive thirst , but not non - thirst . Who / what can help me ? 1 2 3 13 years ago sam05 responded : I would definately try and see your doctor about it . All those symptoms you have such as the headaches and cramps probably relate directly to you not getting enough water . I , too , do not drink very much . But I always have a bottle of water with me and make myself drink some throughout the day . I put those flavor packets in it so I do n ' t have to drink it for thirst but because it tastes good . If I were you I would ask your doctor about ways to help with daughter1984 responded : Thanks for the reply . I ' ve tried the flavor packets , and it helped me a bit , too . Even a little flavor helps . I ' m concerned , though , if I might have an underlying problem that causes the non - thirst . Other than you , I ' ve never met anyone who has this same issue . 11 years ago MikePz3 responded : I have to gauge my dehydration level by how my mouth feels . If it feels dry and a little tight , I know that I have to drink something . Otherwise , I rarely feel thirsty , except if I had very salty food an hour or more before . I would love to drink more but water makes me gag ! I hate it ! Flavored water goes down okay but the artificial sweeteners in most of them give me migraines . Full - sugar drinks are not advisable as the primary means of hydration . There is My blood work is fine , but I do have mental issues . Seriously . M 11 years ago sparrowsmom responded : I felt like I could have been reading about myself when I read your entry . Have you been to the doctor yet or found out why your body is n ' t telling you to be thirsty ? I ' ve never been hospitalized but I have felt dizzy , confused , my legs ache at times when walking to my office from the parking lot up a small hill or just when I crouch down to my daughter ' s level for a few seconds . Even worse , my pulse goes nuts ( feels like my heart Let me know if you ' ve gotten any answers since you first wrote . I am very interested why my body is n ' t preventively reacting ( by being thirsty ) before it gets to the point of having the symptoms of dehydration . I have tried looking on - line & have seen so many things on ALWAYS being thirsty but next - to - nothing on NEVER being thirsty . sskatt responded : Oh my , I have been thinking about this lately . I had an acute kidney failure event last Sept . I now have severe kidney disease . In retrospect , I realized that I was never thirsty even in the summer heat . I was taking a diuretic and I think that plus my lack of thirst cause the crisis . My severe kidney disease will cause major problems in the future when I need certain treatments or diagnostic testing . Not a good picture . I am still not aware of being thirsty . I have a low RochelleK responded : I had a similar problem a couple years ago and I actually had to keep track of how many ounces of water I was drinking to be sure I got enough . After a while , drinking enough water became habit even though I was rarely thirsty 10 years ago sandie_72 responded : Dear never thirst , would you please let me know what you find out about this issue as I have a very similar problem and have had kidney stones from not drinking enough fluids . It takes me about 3 days on avg . to finish a regular size bottle of water at work . I keep forgetting about it and when I look at it I have no desire to drink it so in the fridge it goes until the next day . I would appreciate any info you could share if you find anything out . 10 years ago rubystar2 responded : I would just make it a point to drink sips all day long . I think sometimes our bodies do n ' t signal us if there is no response from us . Maybe your body has been ' trained ' to not register thirst if it has been ignored for many years . I ' m just guessing . I drink lots and lots of water because I know it ' s healthy for us and I have just always been doing that for the last 5 or 6 years now . I ' m sure I drink at LEAST a half gallon a day . Maybe you have to build up to it by drinking a little bit often to let your body get used to a higher level of hydration . Let us all know what you find out from the doctors , if anything . Cherrigrl22 responded : Finally someone just like me . I have had this feeling of never being thirsty for as long as i can remember . In fact , when i was about 3 or 4 years old i was rushed to the emergency room because of dehydration . I am also hardly ever thirsty as well . I just never even think about drinking water ; kind of like my brain forgets to tell me i need water . I have gone almost a week without drinking water as well . I have been dehydrated many times , feeling dizzy , nauseous I hope you find out what causes non - thirst and hopefully its something we can fix . Thank you for posting this . It shows me I ' m not the only one with this problem . Like yourself , I have never met anyone with this condition . I hope someday I can rid of it and good luck to u too . pjh139psu responded : One little thing you can try is when you feel like eating something , take a drink . Sometimes the body can read thrist as hunger . Before you eat , make sure water goes in . Just want to grab a quick bag of chips or a candy bar or nutrition bar , or meal , make the water go with them and consume it first . If you need to track it you might try a site like Daily Burn or Daily Plate . I believe Sparks also has a water tracker . It counts the ounces or glasses depending on the site [ 8 oz glass > . Keep a beverage at hand . No it does n ' t have to be exactly water . Have your water with your meals . Mine is always unsweetened ice tea . I like it plain because I found it made me feel cooler when working in a very hot unventilated condition . Buy the biggest water bottle you can find . I saw some in Kmart for 32 oz . Fill it up and put it where you ca n ' t NOT see it . And make a note to yourself that says " My job is done when this is empty / half full / whatever you need to meet a water requirement . Set your cell phone ' s alarm use it to drink . There are free schedule programs you can find on the net . One of mine is Rainlander . It ' s free btw . You can schedule your liquids and it will pop up and remind you . If you ca n ' t remember , there are aids out there that can remember for you . Remember it takes at least 30 days for a new habit to take hold and drinking is a habit . ElaineMageeRD responded : Have any of you tried to get interested in drinking some flavored warm green tea ? It might go down easier than cold water , particularly during the colder months . I love tropical green tea and I love mint green tea but there is also mango flavored tea , etc . . .You can try a few different types and see if any appeal to you . I am now in the habit of drinking a cup in the morning and a cup in the evening ( they are low in caffeine so this does n ' t interrupt - - Elaine abakale responded : Oh , my goodness . I am certainly not a doctor , but this sounds so much like my friend with Addison ' s Disease . I would definitely get a full work up by an internist . vetiver8 replied to abakale ' s response : I have been reporting this " no thirst " symptom for years . Yesterday I had a breakfast coffee and a bed - time small glass of milk But had eaten fruit at each meal . Was feeling " off " all day - a cold coming ? No . Am very sensitive to air pollution and it can get to bronchitis if I do not immediately begin a routine of rest , fluids , salt water up nose , gargling with Listerine , vitamin C , nasal saline spray . Have other symptoms which , according to Medhelp forum Cornflower24 responded : Thirstlessness is something I have battled with as far back as I can remember . The main consequences for me are very dry skin and I now have very high blood pressure . One of the drugs I was prescribed has a side effect of reducing thirst so there must be a metabolic reason for this problem . In all the tests I have had for high blood pressure I have so far got away without liver or kidney damge , but I am very vulnerable to any extra stress . Like other people in this discussion I have no desire to drink even if it is right in front of me . I would n ' t drink anything at all if I did n ' t know I had to . Even when I was in labour or it is very hot I do n ' t get thisty . One thing that helps is if I can manage to drink a couple of glasses early in the morning then I have more chance of drinking for the rest of the day . I would recommend reading " Your Body ' s Many Cries For Water " by Dr F Batmangheldi . He says " You are not sick , you are thirsty " and take what you can from this book . I am also going to try pictures of water scenes around the place and maybe one of those little indoor water fountains with the sound of running water . Like many of you I know I have to overcome this or my health and life are in jeopardy . 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http://forums.webmd.com/3/heart-disease-exchange/forum/1475 | WebMD Home Communities WebMD ® Heart Disease Community Save WebMD - moderated WebMD ® Heart Disease Community Last Reply : 11 years ago 11 years ago coreg and irregular heartbeat jjcultra posted : Diagnosed with cardiomyopathy 3 / 08 . I was on coreg with minimal side effects most of 08 then weened off coreg and experienced difficulties off the drug . I was put back on coreg 20 1 / 09 . I had no evidence of an irregular heartbeat until my last echo 5 / 09 . I have been on coreg for 6 months straight now . It has helped my ejection fraction pre 43 , post 50 . They have increase my dosage from 20to40to 60 mg . Over this time I have developed an irregular heartbeat or a CardiostarUSA1 responded : Hi : b " Developed an irregular heartbeat or a skip " Perhaps your doctor is referring to the most common type of palpitations , premature ventricular contractions ( PVCs , typically harmless , occurring even in many healthy individuals ) , described that the heart is flip - flopping , fluttering , jumping , pausing or stopping briefly ( though it ' s actually not doing that ) , pounding , SKIPPING , thumping , or strong , hard , or forceful beats being felt in the chest , neck , throat , which has various causes ( cardiac www . fda . gov / MedWatch / index . html or contact by phone at 1 - 800 - 332 - 1088 . Best of luck down the road of life . Take care , CardioStar ☆ Advocate for ♥ - Health - - b ☒ Patient Resources b The Cardiomyopathy Association www . cardiomyopathy . org b Adult Cardiomyopathy Forum cardiomyopathy . fragment - media . com i Taking one or more prescription drugs b Know your prescription drugs WebMD b Drugs A - Z www . webmd . com / drugs / index - drugs . aspx b Ask A Patient Rate a drug , side effects , comments , etc . askapatient . com / rateyourmedicine . htm Drugs . com b Drug Interaction Checker Prescription and over - the - counter drugs may / can interact with other drugs , foods , beverages and dietary supplements . www . drugstore . com / pharmacy / drugchecker - - OptumHealth b Making the Most of Your Doctor Visits Ten tips for making your visit to the doctor more effective . www . myoptumhealth . com / portal / Health + Hubs / item / Making + the + Most + of + Your + Doctor + Visits HealingWell b You and Your Doctor : It Takes Two to Tango Your medical care is a two way street . . . . www . healingwell . com / library / health / article . asp ? author = salvucci &id = 5 i Quote " Be a questioning patient . Talk to your doctor and ask questions . Studies show that patients who ask the most questions , and are most assertive , get the best results . Be vigilant and speak up ! " - Charles Inlander , People ' s Medical Society . It ' s your future . . . . . .be there . : - ) . . b ☛ WebMD / WebMD message boards does not provide medical advice , diagnosis , or treatment . b ☛ WebMD does not endorse any specific fixi56 responded : I would like to find out about a problem I have been experiencing . I ' ve been taking meds for acid reflux sometimes it seem like it does ' nt help and I have irregular heartbeats after I eat sometimes it is worse than other times . I HAD A ANGOIGRAM and found minimal blockage . I WAS WONDERING IF ACID REFLUX CAN CAUSE IRREGULAR HEART BEATS ? CardiostarUSA1 responded : Hi Fixi : b " Was wondering if acid reflux can cause irregular heartbeats ? " It may / could . Some individuals have reported palpitations ( PACs , PVCs ) , atrial fibrillation ( AF ) , or tachyarrhythmias ( tachycardia , supraventricular tachycardia / paroxysmal supraventricular tachycardia ) being triggered off by GERD / acid reflux / heartburn , swallowing ( food or drink ) , gas , bloating , belching , burping , or coughing , or after a heavy meal / on a full stomach . These are known as indirect causes or an " reactive www . webmd . com / content / pages / 9 / 1675_57832 . htm Cleveland Clinic Heart & Vascular Institute b Management of Arrhythmias ( Abnormal Heartbeats ) w / ECG waveform images www . clevelandclinic . org / heartcenter / pub / guide / disease / electric / arrhythmia . htm As Applicable i Heart flip - floppin ' , flutterin ' , skippin ' , thumpin ' Your Total Health - NBC / iVillage b Premature Ventricular Contractions ( PVCs ) [ Patient education guide > yourtotalhealth . ivillage . com / premature - ventricular - contractions . html MedicineNet - We Bring Doctors ' Knowledge to You b Palpitations ( PACs , PVCs ) www . medicinenet . com / Palpitations / article . htm eHealthMD b Palpitations www . ehealthmd . com / library / palpitations / PAL_whatis . html - - OptumHealth b Making the Most of Your Doctor Visits Ten tips for making your visit to the doctor more effective . www . myoptumhealth . com / portal / Health + Hubs / item / Making + the + Most + of + Your + Doctor + Visits HealingWell b You and Your Doctor : It Takes Two to Tango Your medical care is a two way street . . . . . . www . healingwell . com / library / health / article . asp ? author = salvucci &id = 5 i Quote " Be a questioning patient . Talk to your doctor and ask questions . Studies show that patients who ask the most questions , and are most assertive , get the best results . Be vigilant and speak up ! " - Charles Inlander , People ' s Medical Society . It ' s your future . . . . . .be there . : - ) . . b ☛ WebMD / WebMD message boards does not provide medical advice , diagnosis , or treatment . jewellbox5 responded : toporal xl may help . re coreg the company advised me that it was not the first choice for treating irregular heart beats , nor is it listed in the pdr therefor . been there done that . Back to Top Visit the Heart Disease Health Center Home Staying Informed My Watchlist Related Men ' s Health Communities All Communities Community FAQs Crisis Assistance Stay Informed with Newsletters Sign up for the Heart Health newsletter and keep up with all the latest news , treatments , and research with WebMD . I have read and agree to WebMD ' s Privacy Policy Submit | [
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http://forums.webmd.com/3/hypertension-and-high-blood-pressure-exchange/forum/605 | WebMD Home Communities WebMD ® Hypertension & High Blood Pressure Community Save WebMD - moderated WebMD ® Hypertension & High Blood Pressure Community Last Reply : 3 years ago 9 years ago Suddenly spiking Blood Pressure sometimses with rapid pulse heartston posted : In June , 3 months ago , I started having sudden spikes of high blood pressure , highest 203 over 115 pulse 114 Been in the Emergency Room all 3 times , first they thought it was thyroid , last 2 times thyroid is was normal . Cardiac tests are normal , EKG , blood tests , x rays all normal . The doctors in the ER do not know what it is . . . .Think they called it epclisolic hypertension , and said glands also needed to be tested and kidneys . April cardialogist appointment passed , ultra sounds of neck , heart , stress test and was fine , blood pressure running 140 / 80 average . This is scaring me silly , while a I try to stay calm and not panic . Especially with no answers . Anyone ever heard of such a mess ? And I can not get into see any specialists till October and Mid November . Heartston 1 2 3 4 5 9 years ago lukeboy responded : This month , the 7th I started to have extreme swing of my heartrate . . . .40bpm to 80 bpm . Also palpatations . This lasted about 3 days . The events lasted about 3 hours per day . Finally went to ER . BP was 223 / 149 . EKG was ok . Lab was ok . I am 71 years old . They determoned that during the events , which they recorded while there in ER , my heart chambers were out of sink . . . . . .they felt that there was no danger at An_192045 responded : Since 2008 , I ' ve experienced several BP hikes to 200 and 3 hospitalizations : # 1 brain hemmorhage ( took 3 days to diagnose ; no known reason ) ; # 2 diagnosis was anxiety from # 1 ; # 3 was unknown ; # 4 was " mystery " / panic attack / PTS , 40,000 $ later and every test conceivable ; and # 5 has been add diuretic . Fear of unknown and mixed physician reviews have left me trying anxiety coping measures . Some discussion regarding trying pacemaker . Wish you some good results dbssbs responded : Last July 2009 my troubles began . First started the palputations , shortness of breath along with the elevation of the bp . I made two emergency room visits and the finale was the bp elevating 200 / 100 . Hospitalized for 11 days with $ 100K of testing and no results . I had wonderful doctors but they were totally stumped . They increased my medication but could not provide any answers . They put me on lupus mediciation for a while , thinking that could be a possiblity , they tried estrogen for a short stint , no CRW1951 I have no idea if this is anyone ' s issue with " spiking " blood pressure , but I wanted to pass it along . I do n ' t have perfect BP , but several months ago , it spiked to 180 / 120 and I ended up in the Emergency Room . Only after my own research , ( no Doctor even mentioned it ) did I find out , that eating genuine " black " liquorice can cause this in some people . I stopped eating it and my BP returned to my normal . If CRW1951 An_192046 responded : Get an endocrinologist or a family practice doc to check for glandular problems such as with adrenal and further thyroid checks . I ' ll bet they just checked the TSH for thyroid function in the ER . Check for sleep disorders , especially for sleep apnea and / or restless leg syndrome . This can take a while to get scheduled with both the sleep specialist and a sleep lab , so if it ' s a possibility , start trying to make an appointment or get a referral now . Some doctors may prescribe devices that can detect some sleep disorders at home now for cheaper , but a sleep lab can be more comprehensive in detecting problems . Check your other prescription and non - prescription meds - some can raise blood pressure ( bp ) . Try looking them up in www . rxlist . com or www . drugs . com For me after 2 trips to emergency room with bp spikes and palpitations , it turned out to be a combo of sleep apnea ( which makes bp hard to control even with multiple meds ) and a beta blocker I was on . I ' m still on 2 other bp meds , but with cpap treatment for the apnea and discontinuing the beta blocker , my bp is getting pretty stable and much lower in just a month . For some people ( like me ) , a beta blocker can make bp more variable , where a Good luck , be persistent , do n ' t give up , and do n ' t forget gentle regular exercise . tangerine456 I have a similar problem with no diagnosis . I appreciate the other comments . What has helped me immensely is regular exercise , mostly walking but also some strength training , and following Dr . Ornish ' s diet in his book Spectrum . I take my blood pressure daily and for the last 6 weeks it has been running around110 / 70 . I have had no further spikes . Before it would regularly spike to 180 / 110 when stressed or tired or ? ? ? Normal pressures used to be around 140 / 90 . The doctor wished to prescribe BP medication but I asked to do this first . I will continue with Dr Ornish as this seems to work for me . MRKaufman I had an unusual episode of palpitations and higher than normal bp ( 165 / 115 ) in the context of sitting in a very hot room ( with no a / c ) for over an hour and a half on a gruelingly hot day . For a few months prior to the episode , I had been changing the way I was taking my Synthroid ( taking it an hour before meals and taking supplements 4 hours later , instead of taking everything together , hoping for better absorption of the thyroid hormone if it was talken alone heartston Thanks for sharing and suggestions . I called and got into Mayo Clinic next week . Now the doctors are talking about Kidney problems . And want to run me all over to all kinds of doctors . Forget that . Most of you did not say anything much about thryroid which can totally mess up everything . But I really think it is something with the medications , and reactions to them . They have never stablized my blood pressure in 4 years . Thanks Heartston MRKaufman replied to ' s response : I ' ve always had normal thyroid test results regardless of what I ' m feeling clinically , and have ended up adjusting my thyroid meds . myself ( always downwards ) . In the past I have been diagnosed with Hashimoto ' s Thyroiditis , and was also given a pituitary challenge , where the results were equivocal , but when the endocrinologist drilled down and just looked at the results for women my age , he could see that I was hypothyroid . That was all many years ago , which gave me the basis for being put bazpom1 Dear Heartston you can get past this horror by using your own intellegence BP Gauge i had months of this , wake up hertbeat extreme BP same as yours some panic sit down check BP back to normal within 5 to 10 minutes135 / 70 the first time this happend over 2 years ago i was taking Nefidapine i got onto General Practitioners Panel 8 doctors held conferance usless they looked down on me as an old man which i am , still got my marbles though - hert consultants 2 a little bit better but not a lot no bazpom1 replied to ' s response : dear Heartston forgot to add Adalat and Nefidapine are the same i was not told this doctors nurses medical staff etc all try there best to help you but where to start the worry = sleep disturbance = BPspikes = etc = etc doctors and consultants are not Gods they are quite fallible - only human some are very good some shy away at the sight of blood at times one has to think it out and use the tools at our disposal - brain - BPgauge - computer because what ever has happened to you there is some one An_192047 dbssbs look to your medication = work on the internet needed eg side affects caused by whatever medicine your on ? ? KaceyKohl I ' ve experienced sudden spikes in BP since March , usually occurring several hours after falling asleep . Although , lately the spikes occur anytime . My BP can go from 110 to 150 in minutes and last for about 35 to 45 minutes before coming down to 120 . I take an anti - anxiety med when I feel the rush and it does help within ten minutes . I , too , have been to the ER with a BP over 200 . I have recently seen a hypertension specialist who thinks the spikes are caused by emotional distress . I ' m currently taking an ACE Inhibitor and Adrenergic Blocker daily . The spikes do n ' t seem as high but I ' m experiencing side effects . Check out on the internet Pseudopheochromacytoma and particularly a paper written by Dr . Samuel J . Mann . I found it very informative . Good Luck ! Ratttale replied to An_192046 ' s I ' ve been going back and forth to the doctor for the past seven months with spiking high blood pressure . I ' ve had every blood and urine test known to man . I ' ve had a pelvic ultrasound , a CAT scan , an MRI , a venous scan and a host of other exams prescribed by my primary care physician and two specialists ( kidney and adrenal ) . All blood tests , all scan and all or exams have come back normal ; they have ruled out pheochromocytoma ( a tumor on the kidney I have also done the sleep studies and wear a cpap at night , but my blood pressure still ues up ! My doctors are scratching their heads while I ' m going crazy with fear and anxiety . 1 2 3 4 5 Back to Top Visit the Hypertension Health Center Home Staying Informed My Watchlist All Communities Community FAQs Crisis Assistance | [
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http://forums.webmd.com/3/parenting-3-year-olds-exchange/forum/3873/2 | WebMD Home Communities Parenting : 3 - Year - Olds Community Save Member - created Parenting : 3 - Year - Olds Community Your 3 - year - old is like a sponge , soaking up anything new that comes his or her . . . more Last Reply : 9 years ago 9 years ago MY 3 YR OLD COMPLAINING OF LEG PAIN FP709 posted : MY 3.5 YEAR OLD SON HAS HAD A FEVER 102 + FOR A COUPLE DAYS FOLLOWED BY A STEADY LOWER FEVER 100.2 + FOR ANOTHER 2 DAYS . VERY STUFFY AND RUNNY NOSE AT THE SAME TIME . DR . SAID IT IS A COLD . NO MEDS OTHER THAN ADVIL / TYLENOL FOR FEVER CONTROL . HE IS ALSO ASTHMATIC AND COUGHING , THEREFORE , HE RECEIVES NEBULIZER TREATMENTS . MY MAIN CONCERN IS HE IS ALSO FREQUENTLY COMPLAINING OF BILATERAL LEG PAIN ESPECIALLY AS SOON AS HE WAKES UP . ARE THESE POSSIBLY GROWING PAINS OR SHOULD I FarmWife1979 responded : Fever does often go along with general body aches , for some people those body aches will localize in one place . For me , I always get lower back pain with a fever . Double check with your doctor ' s office ( a quick phone call ) for the correct dosage of advil ( ibuprofen ) or tylennol ( acetominphin ) for your son ' s weight . Too much can cause joint pains . Holly ( 31 ) DH ( 38 ) DD ( 3 - born 11 / 16 / 07 ) . Full - time working Mom , Wife , Library Board President , Chef , Chauffer , Maid , Toy Assembler and Repair Technician , and Chief Boo - Boo Kisser . MamaHeather3girls responded : Hi There , First of all I do not want to frighten you but when I read your post I had to tell you . Be STERN with your dr to run more tests . I had the same thing with my nephew . He was always running fevers and getting colds . He would complain of such horrible pain in his leg ( knee ) and that he could not bend it when he woke up . The dr said it was growing pains . . .then when it didnt go away they said rhumatoid arthritis and gave him medicine for that futureXwife Its probably just a cold / flu but it is better to be overly cautious , I would take him back for a 2nd opinion . GL http : / / www . projectwedding . com / ourwedding / ericaandjosh tmfletch I was researching the internet because my son is having the EXACT same things happen to him as your child - right down to the fevers , coughing , runny nose , and now complaining of the bilateral leg pain when he awakes in the morning or from naps . Do you mind updating as to what happened ? Was your son okay or did you end up taking him in to be checked out ? Thanks in advance ! Back to Top Home Staying Informed My Watchlist Related Parenting Communities All Communities Community FAQs Crisis Assistance | [
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http://forums.webmd.com/3/rheumatoid-arthritis-exchange/forum/905 | WebMD Home Communities WebMD ® Rheumatoid Arthritis Community Save WebMD - moderated WebMD ® Rheumatoid Arthritis Community Last Reply : 5 years ago 9 years ago What does this mean ? " RA Latex Turbid . " An_215854 posted : I was just told that I have RA based ( as far as I can tell ) on a blood test that reported that my " RA Latex Turbid . " result is 20.3H . The report lists the limits to be 0.0 - 13.9 . I can see that I am well above the limit . I am desperately seeking more information on what this means . I can find no other indication that I have RA . I saw a rheumatologist last month and was diagnosed as having fibromyalgia . This doctor based his diagnosis on my reports of symptoms and finding a lot of trigger points on my body . He felt my finger joints and told me that I am not arthritic . I am now experiencing a lot of 9 years ago Byroney_WebMD_Staff responded : Dear Anon_81221 , My belief is that the " RA Latex Turbid " test is the same as the " RA Factor " test , but please confirm this with your doctor as I am not one . Here ' s an article on the RA Factor Test that may help explain some things . A couple of things for you to consider are : 1 ) When in doubt , a second opinion may be in order . Many of our members get multiple opinions . 2 ) Some of our members have been diagnosed with RA and Fibromyalgia , so you may want to talk with your doctor ( s ) about the possibility of having both . Let us know how things turn out once you have all of your testing done . Byroney 7 years ago Sarasherbs responded : Hi . . . .I hope you read this post . I was perusing by and had to respond . This may be an indication you have Lyme Disease or something similar . You also may have candida issues . Both can cause the symptoms you feel . With Lyme you may feel more joint pain , especially in the knees . Feel free to email me if you have questions . To get a Lyme test , request the Western Blot . Be well . 7 years ago Sarasherbs replied to ' s response : sara @ sarasherbs . com alittlegloss I know this was 3 years ago , but I have very similar symptoms and an RA Latex of 9.0 . I have also been told I have fibromyalgia . I have the same thing in my feet . I had my lower lumber MRI done today . This is my second go around with all of this . The first time was 3 years ago . Have you received a confirmed diagonsis to date ? Bigsister1950 replied to alittlegloss ' s response : To alittlegloss : I am still suffering off and on from the stinging pain in my feet , currrently off . It was determined that a nerve was being pinched in my lumbar spine . I have had 2 rounds of epidural steroid shots in my spine . The first time I had this done , in October of 2010 , it worked and stopped the stinging . However , I am very careful how I sit . When I am in a car , I always use a lumbar support pillow . A PT sold it to me and Bigsister1950 Thank you ! I ' m pretty sure that I do n ' t have Lyme Disease or candid issues . I just posted a reply to alittlegloss . It explains what I have been going through . I appreciate your thoughtful reply ! 6 years ago blueizcryn3 Please be careful with any rheumatoid medications prescribed . My RA factor was 67 when I began seeing my rheumatologist a year ago and 2 weeks ago it was 405 . I began to suspect the medication I was given was making me feel like I have the flu so I stopped taking it for two weeks to confirm my feelings and the flu like symptoms decreased . I started taking it again and the flu symptoms returned . After reading up on most of the rheumatoid meds I discovered they can cause serious or fatal blood diseases , cancer 5 years ago awondergal blueizcryn3 Please look into The New Arthritis Breakthrough by Scammel . In 2010 I had an array of symptoms . My RF was 419 . " Sky high " in my gp ' s words . I started the antibiotic protocol and now 4 years later I have no joint pain or swelling . My RA latex turbid . just came back 14.6 and I am searching to see if this is the same as RF ( rheumatoid factor ) . The pain and swelling was progressing so rapidly in 2010 I felt sure I ' d be in a wheelchair Back to Top Visit the Rheumatoid Arthritis Health Center Home Staying Informed My Watchlist Related Pain Management Communities All Communities Community FAQs Crisis Assistance Helpful Tips help with methotrexate side effects I recommend all my patients on methotrexate take at least 1 mg of Folic Acid daily to help decrease the risk of side effects . In those . . . More Was this Helpful ? 30 of 33 found this helpful 10 Tips to Help Fatigue Good ideas for better sleep # 8 fatigue tip - relaxation Post a Tip | See All Helpful Resources Affording Your Prescriptions 13 Ways to Manage Side Effect . . . 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If you have a child who probably is n ' t going into a math or science field ( still making As in math , but seemingly more gifted in other areas ) , should Algebra 1 still be completed in 8th grade ? Do they need to take Algebra 1 in 8th to do well on the PSAT ? regentrude 76,029 regentrude 76,029 Qualified Bee Keeper Members 28,909 posts Report post Posted I do n ' t know what is " normal " ( my kids took algebra 1 in 6th and 7th grade ) . I would have a student take algebra 1 in 8th grade if , and only if , the student had mastered pre - algebra and was proficient in arithmetic both with integers and fractions . If that is the case , I see no reason to not let the student do algebra . OTOH , if this is NOT the case , advancing the student to algebra will not be successful . So , YOUR student ' s time table depends on YOUR student ' s mastery of math . I see one drawback of holding a student back who would be ready : spending another year on pre - algebra skills that have already been mastered can be very boring and may turn the student off math . That is something i see happening in public school a lot . MBM 2,281 MBM 2,281 Hive Mind Queen Bee 3,746 posts What are the reasons for doing Algebra 1 in 8th grade ? Is this what is expected nowadays ? If you have a child who probably is n ' t going into a math or science field ( still making As in math , but seemingly more gifted in other areas ) , should Algebra 1 still be completed in 8th grade ? Do they need to take Algebra 1 in 8th to do well on the PSAT ? In my area , Algebra 1 is typically begun in 9th grade ; however , the schools offer various advanced and remedial math tracks as well . I ' m not sure about what level should be completed to do well on the PSAT , though . Jann in TX 2,451 Jann in TX 2,451 Empress Bee of the Hill Country 3,938 posts I rather have students begin Algebra 1 in 9th grade - - and make an A instead of beginning it in 7th or 8th and make a B . While a B is an acceptable grade - - it still means that 10 - 20 % of the material was not mastered . What may seem like minor mistakes can quickly snowball as the speed picks up in the higher math levels . If Algebra 1 is worked in 9th grade and the student ' suddenly ' discovers a passion for something Math and Science related , Geometry is easily worked concurrent to Algebra 2 ( as long as time is set aside for 2 SEPARATE courses ) . . . It is NOT the end of the world if a pre - med student does not take Calc in high school - - they just take it in college the semester before they need to take the calc - based physics . It is AMAZING how the maturity of ' one more year ' can make a world of difference in how easily the concepts are learned and applied . The majority of 7th graders are NOT ready for Algebra 1 - - even if they know their basic facts . . . and if they ' survive ' Algebra 1 - - very few 8th graders can handle a rigorous Geometry class ( their logic is just not that developed ) - - and VERY FEW 9th graders can handle the abstract equations in Algebra 2 . . . and even fewer 10th graders can handle the rigor of Pre - Calc . . . sure their are always exceptions . . . . Sylvia in CA 10 Sylvia in CA 10 Hive Mind Level 2 Worker : Nurse Bee 125 posts Around here in the public schools Alg 1 is typically done ( and many times expected ) at least in 8th grade . If student is ready for Alg 1 in 8th , I would have him take it . Even if he does n ' t plan to go into Science / Math field , he can get done with math much sooner in high school , i.e , Algebra 1 - 8th , Geometry ( or Alg 2 ) in 9th , Algebra 2 ( or Geometry ) in 10th . This is what he needs to have completed to do well in PSAT . Maybe that ' s all the math he ' ll do . He will still complete But if not ready , as mentioned , do n ' t do it in 8th . Sylvia Laurie4b 28,191 Laurie4b 28,191 Beekeeping Professor 16,553 posts The college - bound students in the public schools around here generally take Algebra I in 9th grade . That was the same sequence that we took 40 years ago when I was in school . In some districts around here , the most advanced students will take Algebra I in 7th grade . The reasons to do Algebra I in 8th grade are to allow the student to get to either Calc in high school . However , you can do geometry and another math concurrently , but that takes up an elective spot that would otherwise be open . Reasons not to do it : some students who would totally " get " it if started later , will flounder if started earlier . How to figure out what kind of student you have is the big question . My first ds was the flounder type . Next ds did fine . I ' m doing Algebra I now with my 7th and 8th grader , but am watching like a hawk for an accumulation of " little " mistakes , in which case , we will just slow way down . I did n ' t do that emubird 19 emubird 19 Hive Mind Royal Larvae 583 posts A lot of schools around here do n ' t have the resources to teach Alg I in 8th grade , so the kids in those schools do n ' t even have the option . They all seem to make it into college just fine . Do it if your child is ready . Wait if they ' re not . It ' s really not a big deal , even for kids going into math heavy fields . Colleges are perfectly happy to teach the kids calculus when they get there . They do n ' t need to do it in high school . ( Doing AlgI in 8th grade , if you follow the general sequence , gets the kids into calculus in 12th grade . Otherwise , they finish with precalc and do calc in college . ) Teachin ' Mine 1,887 Teachin ' Mine 1,887 Qualified Bee Keeper 9,602 posts I think that having a solid foundation in ALL the pre - algebra topics is more important than when they take algebra . So if they need more work on fractions , decimals , percentages , etc . then do that in 8th . If not , do algebra . If you find they ' re not ready , you can always do more pre - algebra work . It ' s possible to complete calculus in high school with Saxon since the geometry is incorporated into the other texts . 9th - Algebra I 10th - Algebra II 11th - Advanced Math 12th - Calculus Many people suggest taking two years to complete Advanced Math , but it has the same number of lessons as the others and can be completed in one year as well . creekland 41,089 creekland 41,089 Retired homeschooler ! 24,690 posts Others have mentioned ( and I agree fully ) to choose by whether or not the student is ready . However , for your question regarding " normal . . . " In our local ps : Talented math kids take Alg 1 in 7th ( only one class of these ) Normal math kids take Alg 1 in 8th Less math talented kids take Alg 1 in 9th I chose to do similarly with my boys . The two oldest took Alg 1 in 7th and did superbly throughout their math years . Youngest slowed down to do Alg 1 in 8th and is now working very well in Geometry in 9th ( he likes Geometry better than Alg ) . If it had n ' t worked out well for him I was fully prepared to slow him down even more . There should be no stigma about when it is taken . The choice should match the student . lionfamily1999 170 lionfamily1999 170 M ' lady 8,687 posts Location Right around here someplace . The local ps starts advanced students in Pre - Algebra at 7th , Algebra I in 8th . Dd is in Algebra I ( 8th ) and I WISH she would not have started till 9th ( transcripts would be easier for me ) . I would not automatically do it . Ds is good at math , but we ' re not doing Pre - Algebra till 8th . ayden ayden Hive Mind Worker Bee 74 posts Our local public schools offer Algebra I in 8th grade for advanced students . Very advanced students in 6th grade are offered a test to see if they can take Algebra I in 7th grade , and it is included on their high school transcript . My friend ' s son did that and is doing very well in pre - calc as a sophomore in high school now . But , he is an extremely advanced math student . Like the others said , I would not do it before 9th grade unless pre - algebra had been mastered . ( In my own situation , we are repeating pre - algebra . ) Melinda in VT 1,996 Melinda in VT 1,996 Amateur Bee Keeper 4,346 posts Both in my son ' s school and in the school I attended way back when , Algebra I in eighth grade was the typical advanced track . ( Typical as opposed to a special accommodation . ) The on - grade - level - but - not - advanced track took Algebra I in ninth grade . The Accidental Coach 7,827 The Accidental Coach 7,827 Apprentice Bee Keeper 6,873 posts I am working with the local public high school tryingto register DS for next year . Here is what the college prep track is : 8th - algebra If a B or better in Algebra ( 8th grade ) then 9th - Honors Geometry 10th - Honors Algebra 2 11th - Honors Alegra 3 / Trig 12 - Honors Calculus and Statistics if C in Algebra then 9th - Honors Algebra 1 10th - Honors Geometry 11th - Honors Algebra 2 12th - Honors Algebra 3 / Trig Non - college prep track - 8th - Pre - algebra 9th - Algebra 10th - Geometry 11th - Algebra 2 Most non - college track students stop after 3 years of high school math DS is taking Algebra 1 with me and we are hoping the school will place him in Honors Geometry . He does not want to retake Algebra 1 . hearts4homeschooling 26 hearts4homeschooling 26 Busy Hands Quilts 277 posts I ' d do Algebra 1 in 8th grade hands - down . When my son began Algebra 1 and Physical Science in 9th grade I discovered that Algebra 1 would have been better suited to 8th grade and not 9th . Physical Science contains Algebra 1 - level work , and Pre - Algebra did n ' t cut it ; he could n ' t do his science because he did n ' t have enough math . We had to switch my son out of Physical Science into Biology ( no math in Biology ) to give BTW , we are using DIVE Science on CD because they are college preparatory . There is a chart with their recommendations for years to study which math and science course , www . diveintomath . com and click on Degree Plan . Matryoshka 19,768 Matryoshka 19,768 Apprentice Bee Keeper 12,096 posts March 8 , 2011 This is exactly how our public high school handles it . I ' m doing Alg I next year with both my kids in 8th ( with different curricula ) , and hoping that both get into Geometry , but if one ends up in Algebra again , at least she ' ll have company ( but one can hope the realization that she might have to take it again will be incentive to not skip steps and check her work ) . I am working with the local public high school tryingto register DS for next year . Here is what the college prep track is : 8th - algebra If a B or better in Algebra ( 8th grade ) then 9th - Honors Geometry 10th - Honors Algebra 2 11th - Honors Alegra 3 / Trig 12 - Honors Calculus and Statistics if C in Algebra then 9th - Honors Algebra 1 10th - Honors Geometry 11th - Honors Algebra 2 12th - Honors Algebra 3 / Trig Non - college prep track - 8th - Pre - algebra 9th - Algebra 10th - Geometry 11th - Algebra 2 Most non - college track students stop after 3 years of high school math DS is taking Algebra 1 with me and we are hoping the school will place him in Honors Geometry . He does not want to retake Algebra 1 . angela in ohio 1,343 angela in ohio 1,343 10,646 posts March 8 , 2011 From my research into every school in the area , Algebra I in 8th is normal for college prep track . The advanced kiddos take it in 7th . The regular track ( not sure what it is called officially - non - college - prep ) take it in 9th or 9th and 10th ( over two years . ) I ' d do Algebra I in 8th with the back - up plan of repeating it ( always a good thing ! ) in 9th if needed . readinmom 2,988 readinmom 2,988 Hive Mind Royal Larvae 2,771 posts In our local ps Algebra I is offered at the 8th grade level . If " successful " they will take Geometry as a 9th grader . Our high schools do not offer pre - Algebra classes . My 8th grade son is currently using TT pre - Algebra program , and I ' m glad that we made this decision . Math skills have to be mastered ; they should never be a race to finish . In this case we chose what was best for our child . If he decides to go with the higher math classes , at least we know he has the foundation . Regarding the PSAT , it has both Algebra and Geometry questions on it , if memory serves me correctly . The 9th and 10th grade year are a sort of test drive , the junior year is the one that counts for National Merit Scholarships . If you did start Algebra I as a 9th grader , you would still be on track . Reya 562 Reya 562 2,612 posts For college - track , this would be my goal . AngieW in Texas 1,042 AngieW in Texas 1,042 6,668 posts My two older girls are definitely mathy . My oldest took Algebra I in ps in 7th grade , but although the title of the course was Algebra I , all she actually learned how to do in the class was punch problems into a graphing calculator . She could n ' t do even the simplest problem without the calculator . I had her redo Algebra I at home the next year in 8th grade with Jacobs Algebra . My middle dd did Algebra I in 7th and 8th grades . I planned for her to spend two years working through it because she was using two complete programs , Jacobs Algebra and Kinetic Books Algebra I . She actually ended up dropping Jacobs about halfway through . I will probably start my youngest in Algebra I next year in 8th grade , but I will need to keep doing a prealgebra review . She is dyslexic and tends to forget things very quickly if she does n ' t review them regularly . She is so sick and tired of fractions , decimals , and percents that she would NOT do well with year another year of just reviewing them . I expect that she will need a bit more than one year to finish Algebra I . 1,545 posts Thanks for all the helpful replies , everyone ! Go To Topic Listing All Activity Home Education High School and Self - Education Board Algebra I in 8th grade - - normal or advanced ? Should we automatically do this ? Well - Trained Press is a proud supporter of Resources Corrections Curriculum Maps Samples Free Shipping Customer Service Contact Us About Us The Well - Trained Mind is the guide that millions of parents trust to help them create the best possible education for their child . 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