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No. And thanks to both of you for coming in today. Ann, let's start with you. | no and thanks to both of you for coming in today ann let's start with. | No And thanks to both of you for coming in, today Ann let's start with | no. and thanks to both of you for coming in today. ann, let's start with you. |
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Tell us a little bit about Republicans For Choice, how you came into existence, and how you work within the Republican Party to promote a pro-choice agenda. | tell. us a little bit about republicans for choice how you came into existence and how you work within the republican party to promote a pro-choice | Tell us a little. bit about Republicans For Choice how you came into existence and how you work within the Republican; Party to, promote a pro-choice | tell us a little bit about republicans for choice, how you came into existence, and how you work within the republican party to promote a pro-choice agenda. |
Republicans For Choice was formed in early 1990 as a reaction to the Webster decision in 1989 which was the first decision to limit Roe by the Supreme Court, and myself, as well as millions of other moderate and pro-choice Republicans, for the first time found this to become a voting issue. Even under Ronald Reagan, many of us knew he had signed the most liberal abortion law in the country and talked the talk but didn't necessarily walk the walk, and certainly two of his three appointments were pro-choice, including Sandra Day O'Connor, so that we didn't worry until that Webster decision when Roe hung in the balance by one vote. | republicans for. choice was formed in early 1990 as a reaction to the webster decision in 1989 which was the first decision to limit, roe by the supreme court and myself as. well as millions of other moderate and pro-choice republicans for. the first time found this to become, a voting issue even under ronald reagan many of. us knew he had signed the most. liberal abortion law in the country and talked the talk but didn't necessarily walk the walk and certainly, two of his three appointments were pro-choice including, sandra day o'connor so that we didn't worry until that webster decision when, roe hung in the, balance, by one | Republicans For Choice was, formed in early 1990 as a reaction to the Webster decision in 1989 which was the first decision to limit Roe by the Supreme, Court and myself as well as millions of other, moderate and pro-choice Republicans for the first time, found this to become. a voting issue Even under Ronald Reagan many of us knew he had signed the most liberal abortion law in the country and talked the talk but didn't necessarily walk the walk and certainly. two of his three appointments were pro-choice including Sandra Day O'Connor so that we didn't worry; until that Webster decision when Roe hung in the balance by one | republicans for choice was formed in early 1990 as a reaction to the webster decision in 1989 which was the first decision to limit roe by the supreme court, and myself, as well as millions of other moderate and pro-choice republicans, for the first time found this to become a voting issue. even under ronald reagan, many of us knew he had signed the most liberal abortion law in the country and talked the talk but didn't necessarily walk the walk, and certainly two of his three appointments were pro-choice, including sandra day o'connor, so that we didn't worry until that webster decision when roe hung in the balance by one vote. |
Yeah. Why is this important for your party? I know you're concerned, also, about Republican support for an amendment that would ban abortions. You feel that that's something you--that's dangerous for your party. | yeah why, is this important for your party? i know you're concerned also, about republican support for an amendment that would ban abortions you feel that that's something you--that's dangerous for your | Yeah Why is this important for your party? I know you're concerned; also about Republican support for an amendment that would ban abortions You, feel that that's. something you--that's dangerous for your | yeah. why is this important for your party? i know you're concerned, also, about republican support for an amendment that would ban abortions. you feel that that's something you--that's dangerous for your party. |
It certainly is, and in fact, I always look with amusement over the fact that we've controlled the Congress since 1994, and Henry Hyde told Congresswoman Nancy Johnson and I in '92 when we tried to get the platform changed that--because we said, `Why haven't you brought the constitutional amendment to ban abortion, which is in our platform, up for a vote?' And he said, `Well, in case you didn't notice, we don't control the Congress.' Well, after '94, we did, so in '96 we said, `Henry, guess what?' And they've run away from ever trying to bring the amendment, which gets introduced every year, a form of it, and it would be a constitutional amendment to ban all abortion. Some have some exceptions, some have none, and the reason the party runs from it is because the consequences would be horrible. | it; certainly is and in fact i always look with amusement over the fact that we've controlled the congress, since, 1994, and henry hyde told congresswoman nancy johnson and i in '92 when we tried, to get; the platform changed that--because we; said `why haven't you brought the constitutional amendment to ban. abortion which is in our platform. up for a vote?' and he said `well in case you didn't notice we don't control the congress' well after. '94, we did so in '96 we said `henry guess what?' and they've run, away from ever trying to bring the amendment which gets introduced every. year a form of it and. it, would be a constitutional amendment to ban all abortion, some have some exceptions some have none and the reason the party runs from it. is because the consequences would be | It. certainly is. and in fact I. always look with amusement over the fact that we've controlled the Congress since 1994, and Henry Hyde told Congresswoman Nancy Johnson and I in. '92 when we tried to. get the platform changed that--because we said `Why. haven't you brought the constitutional amendment to ban abortion which is in our, platform up for a vote?' And he said `Well in case you didn't notice we don't control the Congress' Well after '94, we did so in '96 we. said `Henry. guess what?' And they've run away from, ever trying to bring the amendment which, gets introduced every year a form of it and. it would be a constitutional amendment to ban all abortion Some have some exceptions some have none and the reason the party runs from it is because the, consequences would be | it certainly is, and in fact, i always look with amusement over the fact that we've controlled the congress since 1994, and henry hyde told congresswoman nancy johnson and i in '92 when we tried to get the platform changed that--because we said, `why haven't you brought the constitutional amendment to ban abortion, which is in our platform, up for a vote?' and he said, `well, in case you didn't notice, we don't control the congress.' well, after '94, we did, so in '96 we said, `henry, guess what?' and they've run away from ever trying to bring the amendment, which gets introduced every year, a form of it, and it would be a constitutional amendment to ban all abortion. some have some exceptions, some have none, and the reason the party runs from it is because the consequences would be horrible. |
And I do want to clarify something before we go forward. I don't think we can find middle ground on the abortion issue, 'cause I think people who try to find middle ground on the abortion issue become road kill. But, in fact, what we can find--and it's not compromise. We can find actual overlapping areas of common ground, of things that naturally both sides should agree on if they're being honest about the way to make abortion rare and unnecessary. | and, i do want to clarify something before, we go forward i don't think, we can find middle, ground on the abortion issue 'cause i think people who try to find middle ground on the abortion issue; become. road kill but in fact what we can find--and it's not compromise we can find actual overlapping areas, of common ground of things that naturally both sides should agree on if, they're being honest about. the way to make. abortion rare and | And I do want to clarify something before we go forward I don't; think we can find middle ground on the abortion issue 'cause. I think people who try to find, middle ground on the abortion issue become road kill But in fact what we can find--and it's not compromise We can find actual overlapping areas, of common ground of things that naturally both sides should agree on if they're being honest about the way to make abortion rare and | and i do want to clarify something before we go forward. i don't think we can find middle ground on the abortion issue, 'cause i think people who try to find middle ground on the abortion issue become road kill. but, in fact, what we can find--and it's not compromise. we can find actual overlapping areas of common ground, of things that naturally both sides should agree on if they're being honest about the way to make abortion rare and unnecessary. |
So let's stop using the phrase middle ground and use the phrase common ground? | so let's stop using the phrase middle ground, and use the. phrase common | So let's stop using the, phrase middle ground and, use the. phrase common | so let's stop using the phrase middle ground and use the phrase common ground? |
Correct. Yes, yes. | correct yes | Correct Yes | correct. yes, yes. |
And we're gonna get to that with you as well, Kristen, but let me ask you first... | and we're gonna get to that. with you as well kristen but let me ask you | And we're. gonna. get to, that with you as well, Kristen but let me, ask you | and we're gonna get to that with you as well, kristen, but let me ask you first... |
Sure. | sure. |
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...though, what is that common ground, from your perspective? | ...though what is that common ground from your | ...though what is that common ground from your | ...though, what is that common ground, from your perspective? |
Common ground--well, first of all, it is a way of promoting civility in this debate, which doesn't have much, and first I will say that for the purposes of this discussion, for my pro-choice friends out there who will get angry when they hear this--I will also refer to you, Kristen, as pro-life, as opposed to anti choice, which would be generally our language on the pro-choice side. We--you have to start out speaking respectfully and not using inflammatory phrases. So you are pro-life, I am pro-choice. I am not pro abortion. | common ground--well first of all it. is a way of promoting civility in, this debate which doesn't have, much and first i will say that for. the. purposes of this discussion for my pro-choice friends out there who will get angry, when they hear this--i, will also refer to you kristen as pro-life as opposed to, anti choice which would be. generally our language on the pro-choice side we--you have to start out speaking respectfully and not using inflammatory phrases so you are pro-life i am pro-choice i. am not pro | Common ground--well, first of all. it is, a way of promoting civility in this debate which doesn't have much and first; I will say. that for the. purposes of this discussion for my pro-choice friends out there who will get angry when they. hear this--I will also refer to you Kristen as pro-life as opposed to, anti choice which would be generally our language on the pro-choice side We--you have to start, out speaking, respectfully; and not using inflammatory. phrases So you are pro-life, I, am pro-choice I am not, pro | common ground--well, first of all, it is a way of promoting civility in this debate, which doesn't have much, and first i will say that for the purposes of this discussion, for my pro-choice friends out there who will get angry when they hear this--i will also refer to you, kristen, as pro-life, as opposed to anti choice, which would be generally our language on the pro-choice side. we--you have to start out speaking respectfully and not using inflammatory phrases. so you are pro-life, i am pro-choice. i am not pro abortion. |
I agree with that 100 percent. | i agree with that | I agree with that | i agree with that 100 percent. |
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I have not been down there yet. | i; have not been down there | I have not been down there | i have not been down there yet. |
OK. Secondly, I'm not gonna try to change her mind. She's not gonna change mine. But we need to look at what would be best for women and their families, and that isn't taking place now. And actually, Hillary Clinton started this discussion on the Democrats' side. Our party should have started this discussion a long time ago. We have tried to promote the idea of common ground, because our party is the one that has the biggest internal fight. In some states it's just totally ripped the party apart and it's driven millions of women from the party, as well as moderate voters, and I hear from them all the time, so I know that they're still staying away. | ok secondly i'm not gonna try to change her mind she's not gonna. change mine but we need to look at what would. be best for, women. and their families and that isn't taking place now and actually hillary clinton started. this discussion on the democrats' side our party should, have started this discussion a long time ago we have tried to, promote. the idea of common ground. because our party is the one that has the biggest internal fight in some states it's just, totally ripped the party apart and it's driven millions. of women from the party as well as moderate voters and i, hear from them all the time so i know that they're still staying | OK Secondly I'm not gonna try, to. change her mind. She's. not gonna. change mine But we need to look at what would be best for women, and. their families and that isn't taking place now And. actually Hillary Clinton started, this discussion on the Democrats' side Our party should have. started this discussion a long time ago We have tried to promote the idea of common ground because our. party is the, one that has the biggest internal fight In some states it's; just. totally ripped the party apart and it's driven millions of women from the party as well as moderate voters and I hear from them. all the time so; I know that they're still staying | ok. secondly, i'm not gonna try to change her mind. she's not gonna change mine. but we need to look at what would be best for women and their families, and that isn't taking place now. and actually, hillary clinton started this discussion on the democrats' side. our party should have started this discussion a long time ago. we have tried to promote the idea of common ground, because our party is the one that has the biggest internal fight. in some states it's just totally ripped the party apart and it's driven millions of women from the party, as well as moderate voters, and i hear from them all the time, so i know that they're still staying away. |
But in fact, the party has been reluctant to do it because they've been afraid of angering the base, since they understood the concept of common ground they'd know nobody's gonna try to change anybody's opinion. What they're gonna try to do is in a safe atmosphere, really look at areas that would be natural agreement that actually would do good things for women and families. Wow. | but in fact the party has been reluctant to do it because they've been afraid of, angering the base since they understood the concept of common ground they'd know nobody's gonna. try to change anybody's opinion what they're gonna; try, to do is in a safe atmosphere really look at areas, that would be natural agreement. that actually would do good things for women and, families | But in fact, the, party has been reluctant to do it because they've been afraid of angering the, base, since they understood the concept of common ground they'd, know nobody's, gonna, try to change. anybody's; opinion What they're gonna try to do is in a safe atmosphere really look at areas that, would be natural agreement that actually, would do. good things for women and families | but in fact, the party has been reluctant to do it because they've been afraid of angering the base, since they understood the concept of common ground they'd know nobody's gonna try to change anybody's opinion. what they're gonna try to do is in a safe atmosphere, really look at areas that would be natural agreement that actually would do good things for women and families. wow. |
Yeah. | yeah. |
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As opposed to the way this debate has gone for 30 years, where only lawyers and lobbyists have benefited. | as opposed to the way this debate has gone for 30 years where, only lawyers and lobbyists have | As opposed to the. way this debate has. gone for 30 years where, only lawyers. and lobbyists have | as opposed to the way this debate has gone for 30 years, where only lawyers and lobbyists have benefited. |
Kristen Day of Democrats for Life, how would you define common ground, and what do you have in common with Ann? | kristen. day of democrats for life; how would you define common ground and what do you have in common with, | Kristen Day, of Democrats for Life how would you define common ground and what do you have. in common, with | kristen day of democrats for life, how would you define common ground, and what do you have in common with ann? |
Well, I think actually we have a lot in common, listening to you speak, and we put together a 95-10 Initiative that we've been working on over the last probably six or seven months, and the whole goal of the 95-10 Initiative is to decrease the abortion rate by 95 percent in 10 years, and it's a package of proposals that will help women, and to give them more information and better information, closing the health-care loophole, putting together a toll-free number that will send people--send women who are in a crisis pregnancy to places that will help them and support them. And I think this is the common ground, our 95-10 Initiative. Congressman Tim Ryan is going to introduce it in the Congress. We have gotten really positive feedback from people on all sides of this issue. And the time is now for people to really come together and be serious about decreasing the abortion rate and stop talking about it and actually sit down and do something. I know... | well i think. actually we. have a lot in common listening to you speak and we put together a 95-10 initiative that we've been working on, over the last probably six or seven months and the whole goal of the 95-10 initiative is to decrease the abortion. rate by 95 percent in 10 years and it's a package of proposals that will help women and to give them more information and better information closing the. health-care loophole putting together a toll-free number that will. send, people--send, women, who are in. a crisis pregnancy to, places, that will help them and. support them and i think this, is the common ground our 95-10 initiative congressman tim ryan is going to introduce it in the congress we have gotten really positive feedback from people on all. sides of this issue and the time is now for people, to really come together and be serious about decreasing the abortion rate; and stop talking about it and, actually sit down; and do something i. | Well I think, actually we have a lot in common listening to you speak and we, put together a 95-10 Initiative that we've been working on over the last probably six or seven months, and the whole, goal of the, 95-10 Initiative, is, to decrease the abortion rate by 95 percent in 10 years and it's a package of. proposals that will help women and, to give them more information and better information, closing the health-care. loophole putting together a toll-free number that will send people--send women who are in a crisis. pregnancy to places. that will help, them, and support them And I think this is the common ground our 95-10 Initiative Congressman Tim, Ryan is going to introduce it in the Congress We have gotten really positive feedback from people on all, sides of this issue And the time is now for people to really come together and be serious about decreasing the abortion. rate and. stop talking, about it and actually. sit down and do, something I | well, i think actually we have a lot in common, listening to you speak, and we put together a 95-10 initiative that we've been working on over the last probably six or seven months, and the whole goal of the 95-10 initiative is to decrease the abortion rate by 95 percent in 10 years, and it's a package of proposals that will help women, and to give them more information and better information, closing the health-care loophole, putting together a toll-free number that will send people--send women who are in a crisis pregnancy to places that will help them and support them. and i think this is the common ground, our 95-10 initiative. congressman tim ryan is going to introduce it in the congress. we have gotten really positive feedback from people on all sides of this issue. and the time is now for people to really come together and be serious about decreasing the abortion rate and stop talking about it and actually sit down and do something. i know... |
Is the goal for both then--and I want to get to some of the specific things in your proposal, and we can both talk about them--both of you can respond to them--but is the goal to reduce the number of abortions? I mean, is that what you would say the goal is? | is the goal for; both, then--and i want to; get, to some of, the specific things, in your proposal and. we can, both talk about them--both; of you can respond to them--but is, the goal to reduce the number of, abortions? i mean is that what you would, say the goal. | Is, the goal for both then--and I want to get to some of the specific things in. your proposal and we can both talk about them--both of you can respond to, them--but is the goal to reduce the number of abortions? I mean is that what you would say the goal | is the goal for both then--and i want to get to some of the specific things in your proposal, and we can both talk about them--both of you can respond to them--but is the goal to reduce the number of abortions? i mean, is that what you would say the goal is? |
Absolutely. And the goal is to give women better choices. No woman wants to go out and have an abortion, and a lot of women feel that that's their only choice, for financial reasons, from pressure from their family and friends, and we need to do more to give them better options, show them that there are--you can--adoption options, and there are lots of other options out there, and there's lots of support out there for women who are facing these situations. | absolutely and the goal, is to give women better choices no woman wants to go out and have an abortion, and a; lot of women feel that that's their only choice for financial reasons from pressure from, their. family and friends and. we need to do more to give them better options show them, that there are--you can--adoption options and there. are lots of other options out there and there's, lots of support out there for women, who are facing these | Absolutely And the, goal is to give women better choices No woman wants to, go out and have. an abortion and a lot of women feel that that's their. only choice for financial reasons from pressure from. their family and friends and we need to do more to give them, better options show them that there are--you can--adoption options and there are lots of other options out there and there's lots of support out there for women who are facing these | absolutely. and the goal is to give women better choices. no woman wants to go out and have an abortion, and a lot of women feel that that's their only choice, for financial reasons, from pressure from their family and friends, and we need to do more to give them better options, show them that there are--you can--adoption options, and there are lots of other options out there, and there's lots of support out there for women who are facing these situations. |
Let me ask you first about adoption since you mentioned it, 'cause that is one of the--you wish to strengthen the ability to get an adoption, to educate? I know that this is a big part of your proposal. | let me ask, you first about adoption since you mentioned it 'cause that is one of the--you wish to strengthen the. ability to get an adoption to educate? i know that this is a big part of your | Let me ask you first, about adoption, since you mentioned it 'cause that is one of the--you, wish to strengthen the ability. to get an adoption to. educate? I know that this is a big part of, your | let me ask you first about adoption since you mentioned it, 'cause that is one of the--you wish to strengthen the ability to get an adoption, to educate? i know that this is a big part of your proposal. |
Right. We've been working with the National Council on Adoption to come up with some good proposals that will better educate women on the--what entails in an adoption and what they can do if they are pregnant and they don't want to have an abortion but they don't feel that they have the financial means or the means to raise a child. And there are millions of families out there who are willing to raise these children, and we just need to do more to support and help women and families facing these kind of tough situations. | right we've been working with the national council on; adoption to come up with some good proposals that will better educate women on the--what entails in an adoption, and what they can do if they are pregnant and they don't want to have an abortion but they don't feel, that they have the financial means or the means to raise a child; and there are millions of families out there who are willing to raise these children and we just need to, do more to, support and, help women and families facing these kind, of. tough | Right We've been working, with the National Council on Adoption to come up with some good. proposals that will better educate women on. the--what entails in an adoption and what they can do; if, they are pregnant and they don't want to have an abortion but they don't feel that they have the. financial means or the means to raise a child, And there are millions of, families out, there who. are willing to. raise these, children and we just need to do more to support and help women and families facing these kind of tough | right. we've been working with the national council on adoption to come up with some good proposals that will better educate women on the--what entails in an adoption and what they can do if they are pregnant and they don't want to have an abortion but they don't feel that they have the financial means or the means to raise a child. and there are millions of families out there who are willing to raise these children, and we just need to do more to support and help women and families facing these kind of tough situations. |
Ann? | ann? |
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I can agree that adoption reform is definitely a good step, but even beyond that I want to get to the point where women never have to face the choice 'cause they aren't getting pregnant unless they intend to, and that's... | i can agree that adoption reform is definitely a good step but even, beyond that, i want to get to the point where women never have to face the choice 'cause they, aren't getting pregnant unless they intend to, and | I can agree, that adoption reform is definitely; a good step but even beyond that I want to get to the point where women never have to face the choice, 'cause they aren't; getting pregnant unless they intend to and | i can agree that adoption reform is definitely a good step, but even beyond that i want to get to the point where women never have to face the choice 'cause they aren't getting pregnant unless they intend to, and that's... |
We're talking contraception. | we're. talking | We're talking | we're talking contraception. |
That's--we're talking contraception, and we're talking about--the real disgrace in this country is most contraception that's available now is based on technology pre-1973 because of the active lobbying against companies that would try to develop the technology post-1973. '73 being when Roe was decided. And that's a real disgrace. You know, with the ability that we have to do so much in this world, we should be able to have totally foolproof contraception, and in fact, since 60 percent--that's a 6 followed by a 0--60 percent of abortion is due to the failure of contraception, you could eliminate 60 percent of the abortions right away if you had more effective contraception. | that's--we're talking contraception and we're talking about--the real disgrace in this country is most contraception that's available now is based on technology pre-1973 because of the active, lobbying against, companies that would, try to develop the technology post-1973. '73 being when roe was decided, and that's. a real disgrace you know with the ability that we have to do so much in this world we should be able to have totally foolproof contraception and in fact since 60 percent--that's a 6 followed by a 0--60 percent. of abortion is due to the failure of contraception. you could eliminate 60 percent of the abortions right away if you had more effective | That's--we're talking contraception and we're talking about--the real disgrace in this country is most, contraception that's available. now is. based on technology pre-1973 because of the active lobbying against companies. that would try to develop the technology post-1973. '73 being when Roe was decided And that's a real disgrace You know with the ability that we have to do so much in this world we should be. able to, have totally foolproof contraception and in fact since 60 percent--that's, a 6 followed by a 0--60 percent of abortion is due to, the failure of contraception you could eliminate 60 percent of the abortions right away if you had more effective | that's--we're talking contraception, and we're talking about--the real disgrace in this country is most contraception that's available now is based on technology pre-1973 because of the active lobbying against companies that would try to develop the technology post-1973. '73 being when roe was decided. and that's a real disgrace. you know, with the ability that we have to do so much in this world, we should be able to have totally foolproof contraception, and in fact, since 60 percent--that's a 6 followed by a 0--60 percent of abortion is due to the failure of contraception, you could eliminate 60 percent of the abortions right away if you had more effective contraception. |
Kristen, I have to ask you about something in your proposal with regard to contraception, which is that you propose that insurance coverage would be required for contraception approved by the Food and Drug Administration. | kristen i have to ask you. about, something in your proposal with regard to contraception which. is that you propose that insurance coverage would be required for contraception approved by the food and drug | Kristen I have to ask you about something in your proposal with regard to contraception which is that you propose that insurance coverage would be required for, contraception approved by the Food and Drug | kristen, i have to ask you about something in your proposal with regard to contraception, which is that you propose that insurance coverage would be required for contraception approved by the food and drug administration. |
That's terrific. | that's | That's | that's terrific. |
I think, though, within the pro-life movement, there's a very large entity within that movement and a very powerful entity within that movement which would have a lot of trouble with that proposal: the Catholic Church... | i think though within the pro-life movement there's a. very large entity within that movement and a very powerful entity within that, movement which would have a lot of trouble with that proposal: the catholic | I think though within the, pro-life movement there's a very large; entity within that movement and a very powerful. entity within that, movement which would have a, lot of, trouble with that proposal: the Catholic | i think, though, within the pro-life movement, there's a very large entity within that movement and a very powerful entity within that movement which would have a lot of trouble with that proposal: the catholic church... |
Right, abs... | right | Right | right, abs... |
...for starters. How do you deal with that? | ...for. starters how do you deal with, | ...for starters How do you, deal with | ...for starters. how do you deal with that? |
The hierarchy of the church, not necessarily the rank and file. | the hierarchy of the church, not necessarily the rank and | The hierarchy of the church not necessarily the. rank and | the hierarchy of the church, not necessarily the rank and file. |
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, contraception is just a key component of reducing the abortion rate, and it was one of the things that we felt was very important to be included this package, and there was a--we model our legislation after a compromise that was reached in Missouri that the Catholic Church did actually agree with 'cause it did have some conscience language for Catholic-run health insurance companies and things like that. So there's protection for... | yeah absolutely i mean contraception is just a key component of reducing the, abortion rate and it was one of the things. that we felt was very important to be included this package and there was a--we model our, legislation after a compromise that. was reached in missouri that the catholic church did actually agree with 'cause it did have some, conscience language for catholic-run health insurance companies and things like that so there's protection | Yeah absolutely I mean contraception is just a key component of. reducing the abortion rate and it was one of the things that we felt, was very important to be included this package and there was a--we model, our. legislation after a compromise that was, reached in Missouri that the. Catholic Church did actually agree with 'cause it did have. some conscience, language, for Catholic-run health insurance companies and things like. that So there's, protection | yeah, absolutely. i mean, contraception is just a key component of reducing the abortion rate, and it was one of the things that we felt was very important to be included this package, and there was a--we model our legislation after a compromise that was reached in missouri that the catholic church did actually agree with 'cause it did have some conscience language for catholic-run health insurance companies and things like that. so there's protection for... |
Interesting. | interesting. |
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...people who are opposed to contraception and things like that. | ...people who are opposed to contraception and, things like | ...people who are opposed to contraception and things like | ...people who are opposed to contraception and things like that. |
And the thing that drives me nuts is that this is coming from the Democrats. This is something the Republicans should have done ages ago, because that's where the fight is. | and, the thing that drives. me nuts is that this is coming from the democrats, this is something the republicans should have done ages ago because. that's where the fight | And the thing that drives me nuts is that this is coming, from the Democrats This is something the Republicans should have done ages ago because that's where the fight | and the thing that drives me nuts is that this is coming from the democrats. this is something the republicans should have done ages ago, because that's where the fight is. |
It--we have been putting this package together for the last couple months. We're probably going to introduce it very shortly. We have the support of a large number of congressmen and women on the Hill, and you probably will be hearing more about it as we continue, because this is so important. We need to stop politicizing the abortion issue and really do what we can to help women and their families. | it--we have been putting this package together for the last couple months we're probably going to introduce. it very shortly we have the support of a large number of congressmen and. women on the hill and you probably will. be hearing more about. it as we continue because this is so important we need to stop politicizing. the abortion issue and, really do what; we can, to help women and their | It--we; have been putting this package together, for the, last couple; months We're probably going to introduce it very shortly We have the support of a large number, of congressmen and women on the Hill and you probably will be hearing more about it as we continue because this is so important We need to stop politicizing the abortion issue and really do what we can to help women. and their. | it--we have been putting this package together for the last couple months. we're probably going to introduce it very shortly. we have the support of a large number of congressmen and women on the hill, and you probably will be hearing more about it as we continue, because this is so important. we need to stop politicizing the abortion issue and really do what we can to help women and their families. |
Radical concept. | radical | Radical | radical concept. |
OK. We are talking about common ground on the abortion debate, and if you'd like to join our discussion, the number is (800) 989-8255. We're gonna take a call now from Betty in Boise, Idaho. | ok we are talking about common ground on the abortion debate and if you'd like to join, our, discussion the number is (800) 989-8255. we're gonna take a call now from betty in boise | OK, We are talking about common ground on the abortion, debate and if you'd like to join our discussion the number is (800) 989-8255. We're gonna take a call now from Betty in Boise | ok. we are talking about common ground on the abortion debate, and if you'd like to join our discussion, the number is (800) 989-8255. we're gonna take a call now from betty in boise, idaho. |
Hi, Betty. | hi | Hi | hi, betty. |
Hi. How are you? | hi how are | Hi How are | hi. how are you? |
Good. Go ahead. | good go | Good Go | good. go ahead. |
Yes. I was the Democratic candidate for Congress in Idaho's 1st Congressional District in 2002, and I tried to take a middle ground on abortion because I am one of those people who truly can see both sides of the issue, and I so agree with your caller, the Republican for pro-choice, who talked about middle ground equals road kill. In particular, in order to have the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the other major donors in the Democratic Party, which look to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee for the Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval, you really have to have the support of EMILY's List, and I think EMILY's List is an awesome organization; however, they do have a litmus test on this issue. And I was advocating prevention, education, abstinence, contraception, and I strongly supported Roe vs. Wade, but I also acknowledged that some limitations were reasonable. | yes i was the democratic. candidate for congress in idaho's. 1st congressional district. in 2002, and i, tried to take a middle. ground on abortion because i am one of those people. who truly can see both sides of the issue and i so agree with your caller the, republican for pro-choice who talked about middle ground, equals road kill in particular in order, to have the democratic congressional campaign committee and the other major donors in the, democratic, party which look to the democratic congressional campaign committee, for the good housekeeping seal of approval you really have to. have the support of, emily's list and i, think emily's list is an awesome organization however they, do have a litmus test on this issue and i was advocating prevention education abstinence contraception and i strongly supported roe vs wade but i also acknowledged, that some limitations were | Yes I was the Democratic candidate for Congress in Idaho's 1st Congressional District in 2002, and I tried, to take a, middle ground. on abortion because I. am one, of those people who truly can see both sides of the issue and I so agree with, your caller the Republican for pro-choice who talked about middle ground equals road kill. In particular in order to have the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the other major donors in the Democratic Party which look to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee for the; Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval you. really have to have. the support of EMILY's List and I think. EMILY's List is an awesome organization however, they do. have a litmus test on this issue And I was advocating prevention education abstinence, contraception and I strongly supported Roe vs Wade, but, I also acknowledged that some limitations were | yes. i was the democratic candidate for congress in idaho's 1st congressional district in 2002, and i tried to take a middle ground on abortion because i am one of those people who truly can see both sides of the issue, and i so agree with your caller, the republican for pro-choice, who talked about middle ground equals road kill. in particular, in order to have the democratic congressional campaign committee and the other major donors in the democratic party, which look to the democratic congressional campaign committee for the good housekeeping seal of approval, you really have to have the support of emily's list, and i think emily's list is an awesome organization; however, they do have a litmus test on this issue. and i was advocating prevention, education, abstinence, contraception, and i strongly supported roe vs. wade, but i also acknowledged that some limitations were reasonable. |
And what did you find--maybe you can describe what happened to you with EMILY's List and... | and what did you find--maybe you can describe what happened to you with emily's, list | And what. did you find--maybe, you can describe. what happened, to you with EMILY's, List | and what did you find--maybe you can describe what happened to you with emily's list and... |
Well, in part--and in fairness, they were looking at a candidate running in Idaho's 1st District, and that's not a bastion of progressive electoral votes, so perhaps they just thought long shot in any event. But the bottom line was that you run for office, you get questionnaires and unless you fill them out to the satisfaction of the special interest group, you don't get their vote of approval, and especially for a Democratic woman candidate, EMILY's List is the gateway. A male Democratic candidate does not have to get EMILY's List support. A woman running as a Democrat does. If you don't have EMILY's List, you don't really have a snowball's chance. So that's very frustrating because I do think that both sides, particularly, I think the far right, but I do think both sides oftentimes on the extremes, on the fringes really use this issue rather than--they seek to use it to get out their base rather than to resolve the issue. And I really liked what your caller spoke about in terms of common ground... | well in part--and in fairness they were looking at, a candidate running in idaho's 1st district and that's not a bastion of progressive electoral votes so perhaps they just thought long shot in any event but the bottom line was that you. run for office you get questionnaires and unless you fill them out to the; satisfaction of the special interest group you don't get their vote of approval and, especially for a. democratic, woman candidate emily's list is the gateway. a male democratic candidate. does not have to get emily's list. support; a woman running as a democrat does if you don't have emily's list you don't really have, a snowball's chance so that's, very frustrating because i do think that both sides particularly i think the far right but, i. do think both sides, oftentimes on the extremes on the. fringes really use this. issue rather than--they seek to. use it to get out their base. rather than to resolve the. issue. and i really liked what your caller spoke about in terms of common | Well in, part--and in fairness they were. looking at a candidate running in Idaho's, 1st District and that's not a bastion of progressive electoral votes so perhaps they just, thought long shot in. any event But; the bottom, line; was, that you run for office you get questionnaires and unless you fill them out to the. satisfaction of the special. interest group you don't get their vote of approval and especially for a Democratic woman candidate EMILY's List is the gateway A male Democratic candidate does not have to get EMILY's List support A. woman running as a. Democrat does If you don't have, EMILY's List you don't really have a snowball's chance So that's very, frustrating because I do think that both sides particularly I think, the far right but I do think both sides oftentimes on the, extremes on the fringes really use. this issue rather than--they seek to use it to get out their base rather, than to resolve the issue And I really liked what your caller spoke about in terms of common | well, in part--and in fairness, they were looking at a candidate running in idaho's 1st district, and that's not a bastion of progressive electoral votes, so perhaps they just thought long shot in any event. but the bottom line was that you run for office, you get questionnaires and unless you fill them out to the satisfaction of the special interest group, you don't get their vote of approval, and especially for a democratic woman candidate, emily's list is the gateway. a male democratic candidate does not have to get emily's list support. a woman running as a democrat does. if you don't have emily's list, you don't really have a snowball's chance. so that's very frustrating because i do think that both sides, particularly, i think the far right, but i do think both sides oftentimes on the extremes, on the fringes really use this issue rather than--they seek to use it to get out their base rather than to resolve the issue. and i really liked what your caller spoke about in terms of common ground... |
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I have to tell you, that was actually Ann Stone, who is the chair of Republicans For Choice, so... | i. have to tell you that was actually ann stone who is the chair of republicans for choice | I have to tell you that was actually Ann, Stone who is the chair of Republicans For Choice | i have to tell you, that was actually ann stone, who is the chair of republicans for choice, so... |
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Well, she and I have some common ground. | well she and i have some common | Well. she and. I, have some common | well, she and i have some common ground. |
Well there you go. All right. I'd like to--thanks so much for that call, Betty, and for that very, very interesting perspective. | well there you go all. right i'd like to--thanks so much, for that call betty and for that very. very interesting | Well there you go All right I'd, like to--thanks so much for that call Betty and for that very very interesting | well there you go. all right. i'd like to--thanks so much for that call, betty, and for that very, very interesting perspective. |
Thank you. | thank | Thank. | thank you. |
And I would like to ask Ann Stone of the--I'm sorry, Kristen Day. I'm getting you guys mixed up now--Kristen Day of Democrats for Life to talk about that and for the problems that what you're talking about pose for Democratic candidates, because women are a very large--you know, women are usually strong Democratic supporters, and some women may be very alienated by this idea. | and i would like to, ask ann stone of the--i'm; sorry kristen day i'm getting you guys mixed, up now--kristen day, of democrats for life to talk about that and for; the problems that what you're talking about pose for democratic candidates because women are. a very large--you know women are usually strong democratic supporters; and some women may be very alienated. by this | And I. would like to. ask Ann Stone of the--I'm sorry Kristen Day I'm getting you guys, mixed up now--Kristen Day of Democrats for Life to talk about that and for the problems that what you're talking about pose for Democratic candidates because women are a very large--you know women are. usually strong Democratic supporters and some women may be very alienated by, this | and i would like to ask ann stone of the--i'm sorry, kristen day. i'm getting you guys mixed up now--kristen day of democrats for life to talk about that and for the problems that what you're talking about pose for democratic candidates, because women are a very large--you know, women are usually strong democratic supporters, and some women may be very alienated by this idea. |
Betty, I'm sorry that you had to go through that. And I know--we hear from candidates all over the country who face similar situations because they are pro-life and they don't feel like the Democratic Party necessarily supports them. But I honestly believe that things are changing. We are working with the Democratic National Committee to really change the attitudes toward pro-life Democrats. And it's--the big tent is back open for business. And Howard Dean has really sent a strong message that, you know, he's willing to have dialogue on this issue and maybe be more supportive of pro-life Democrats. And we're very encouraged that if you do decide to run again, that you can run proudly and talk about being pro-life and prevention. | betty i'm sorry that you had to, go through, that and i know--we hear from candidates all over the country who face, similar situations because they are pro-life and. they don't feel like the democratic party necessarily supports, them. but i honestly believe that things. are changing we are working with the democratic national committee to really change the attitudes toward pro-life, democrats and it's--the big tent is back open for, business and howard dean has really sent. a strong message, that you know, he's willing to, have; dialogue on this issue and maybe be more supportive, of pro-life democrats and we're very encouraged that if you do decide to run again that you can run proudly and, talk about, being pro-life and | Betty I'm sorry that you had to go through that And I know--we hear from candidates all over the country who face similar situations. because they. are pro-life and they don't feel like the Democratic Party necessarily supports them But I honestly believe that; things are changing We are working with the Democratic National Committee to really change the attitudes toward pro-life Democrats And it's--the big. tent is back open for, business And Howard Dean has, really sent a strong. message, that you know he's willing. to have dialogue on this issue. and maybe be more, supportive of pro-life Democrats, And we're. very encouraged that if you do decide to run again that you can run proudly and talk. about being pro-life and | betty, i'm sorry that you had to go through that. and i know--we hear from candidates all over the country who face similar situations because they are pro-life and they don't feel like the democratic party necessarily supports them. but i honestly believe that things are changing. we are working with the democratic national committee to really change the attitudes toward pro-life democrats. and it's--the big tent is back open for business. and howard dean has really sent a strong message that, you know, he's willing to have dialogue on this issue and maybe be more supportive of pro-life democrats. and we're very encouraged that if you do decide to run again, that you can run proudly and talk about being pro-life and prevention. |
All right. Let's take another call from--let's see, we have Steve in Tallahassee, Florida. Hi, Steve. Steve, are you there? | all right. let's take another call from--let's see. we have steve in. tallahassee florida hi steve steve are you | All right Let's take another call from--let's see we have Steve in Tallahassee Florida Hi Steve Steve are you | all right. let's take another call from--let's see, we have steve in tallahassee, florida. hi, steve. steve, are you there? |
Yes, I'm here. I'm sorry. | yes i'm here i'm | Yes I'm here I'm | yes, i'm here. i'm sorry. |
Go ahead. | go | Go | go ahead. |
I would like to say that I don't think that there is much of a middle ground in this debate. I believe that one side is going for life and death. One side believes it's a life-and-death issue; the other side believes it's a matter of constitutional rights. And I believe that constitutional rights will always be trumped by life or death, and I don't think the pro-life crowd is going to stop until they win this debate. | i would like to, say that i don't think that there is much of a middle ground; in this debate i believe that, one side is going for, life and death one side believes it's a life-and-death, issue, the other side believes it's. a matter of constitutional. rights and i believe that constitutional rights will always be trumped by life or death and i, don't think. the pro-life crowd is going to stop until they win this | I would like to say that I don't think that there is much of a. middle ground in this debate I believe that one side is going for life. and death One side believes it's a life-and-death issue, the other side believes it's a matter of constitutional rights, And I believe that constitutional rights will always be trumped by life or death and I, don't think. the pro-life crowd is going to stop until they, win this | i would like to say that i don't think that there is much of a middle ground in this debate. i believe that one side is going for life and death. one side believes it's a life-and-death issue; the other side believes it's a matter of constitutional rights. and i believe that constitutional rights will always be trumped by life or death, and i don't think the pro-life crowd is going to stop until they win this debate. |
Ann Stone. | ann, | Ann | ann stone. |
I've sat in the room with some of the icons within the pro-life movement who are willing to talk about rational common--not middle, common ground; not compromise, common ground. And, in fact, they understand that really women and their families have sort of been left out on the fray of this fight again of lawyers and lobbyists. So I think you'd be surprised. I think as long as they think they have a political advantage--right now it's been harder to get a lot of the pro-lifers in the room to talk about this. But when you do, they actually turn out to be pretty reasonable people. | i've sat in the room with some of the, icons within the pro-life movement who are willing, to talk about rational common--not middle common ground; not compromise common ground and, in fact they understand that, really women and, their, families have sort of been left out on the fray of this fight again, of lawyers and lobbyists. so i think you'd be surprised i think as long as they think they have; a political advantage--right now it's. been harder to get a, lot of the pro-lifers in the room to talk about this but when you do they actually turn out to be pretty reasonable | I've sat in the. room, with some of the icons within the pro-life movement who are willing to talk about rational common--not middle common ground not compromise common ground And in fact they understand that really women and their families have sort of been left out on the fray of this fight again of lawyers and lobbyists So I think you'd be surprised I think as long as they think they have a political advantage--right, now it's been harder; to get a lot of, the pro-lifers in the room to talk. about this But when you do they actually turn out to be pretty reasonable | i've sat in the room with some of the icons within the pro-life movement who are willing to talk about rational common--not middle, common ground; not compromise, common ground. and, in fact, they understand that really women and their families have sort of been left out on the fray of this fight again of lawyers and lobbyists. so i think you'd be surprised. i think as long as they think they have a political advantage--right now it's been harder to get a lot of the pro-lifers in the room to talk about this. but when you do, they actually turn out to be pretty reasonable people. |
OK. You're listening to TALK OF THE NATION from NPR News. | ok you're listening to talk of. the nation from npr | OK You're listening to TALK OF THE NATION from NPR. | ok. you're listening to talk of the nation from npr news. |
Steve, you wanted to add something? What is your position, Steve? Steve, are you still there? I think I've lost Steve. | steve you wanted to add something? what is your position steve? steve are you still there? i think i've. lost | Steve you wanted to add something? What is your position Steve? Steve are, you still there? I think I've lost | steve, you wanted to add something? what is your position, steve? steve, are you still there? i think i've lost steve. |
We lost Steve. | we lost | We lost | we lost steve. |
OK. Steve is gone. | ok steve is | OK Steve is | ok. steve is gone. |
Let's go to Peter. He's in Charlotte, North Carolina. And interesting to note that a number of these callers are men, not women. Peter? I think we've lost Peter, as well. Have we lost Peter? | let's go to peter he's in charlotte. north carolina and interesting to note that a number of these callers are. men not women peter? i think we've lost peter, as well have we lost, | Let's; go to Peter He's in Charlotte North, Carolina And interesting, to note that a number of these callers are men not women Peter? I think we've lost Peter as well Have we lost, | let's go to peter. he's in charlotte, north carolina. and interesting to note that a number of these callers are men, not women. peter? i think we've lost peter, as well. have we lost peter? |
Lucy's here. | lucy's; | Lucy's | lucy's here. |
OK. I tend to be one of those people who left the Republican Party, and this was one of the things that got me in that direction, to become a Democrat. And I went back to college and did a lot of study to really think it through. But one of the advantages, if we can get this thing resolved, is the polarization this has caused. There are people who vote one way or the other based largely just on this when we have so many other issues that are so important, whether it's national finance, the burden we're putting on generations to come, the war, that there'd be--I would like to see all children loved, wanted and accepted. And one of the arguments in favor of Kristine Day's is--and both--the adoption. I follow very closely Russia's Putin. I have two darling little grandchildren my daughter got from Russia, and he's closed... | ok i tend to be one of those people who left; the republican party, and this was one of the things that got me in that direction to become a democrat and i. went back to college, and did a lot of study to really think it through but one of, the advantages if we can get this thing resolved is the. polarization this has caused there are people who vote one way or the, other based largely just on this when we have so many other issues that are so important whether it's national finance the burden, we're putting on generations to come the war that, there'd be--i would like to see all children loved wanted and accepted, and one of. the arguments in favor; of kristine day's is--and both--the adoption i follow very closely russia's putin i have two darling; little grandchildren my daughter got from russia, and he's | OK I tend to be one of those people who left the Republican Party and this was one of the things that got me in that, direction to become a, Democrat, And I went; back to college and did a; lot of study, to really think it through But. one. of the advantages if we can get this thing resolved, is the polarization this has caused There are people who vote one way or the other based largely just on this when we have so many other issues that are so important whether it's national finance the burden we're putting. on generations to come the war that; there'd be--I would like to see all children loved wanted and accepted And one. of the arguments in favor of Kristine Day's is--and. both--the adoption, I follow very closely; Russia's. Putin I have two darling little grandchildren my daughter got from Russia and he's | ok. i tend to be one of those people who left the republican party, and this was one of the things that got me in that direction, to become a democrat. and i went back to college and did a lot of study to really think it through. but one of the advantages, if we can get this thing resolved, is the polarization this has caused. there are people who vote one way or the other based largely just on this when we have so many other issues that are so important, whether it's national finance, the burden we're putting on generations to come, the war, that there'd be--i would like to see all children loved, wanted and accepted. and one of the arguments in favor of kristine day's is--and both--the adoption. i follow very closely russia's putin. i have two darling little grandchildren my daughter got from russia, and he's closed... |
Lucy, I want to--we only have a little while left, and I want to conclude with my guests. And you brought up an interesting point. So thank you so much for your call. | lucy i want to--we only have a little while left and i want to conclude with my guests and you brought up an interesting, point so thank you so much for your | Lucy I want; to--we only. have a little while left and I, want to conclude with my guests And you brought up an interesting point So thank you so much for your | lucy, i want to--we only have a little while left, and i want to conclude with my guests. and you brought up an interesting point. so thank you so much for your call. |
Thank you. | thank | Thank. | thank you. |
Again, mentioning the adoption issue, but also the fact that the one issue--the people who vote on this one issue and how difficult that is, I think, particularly in the Republican Party perhaps, for people like yourself. | again mentioning. the adoption issue but also the, fact that the one issue--the people who vote on this one issue and, how difficult that, is i think particularly in the republican party perhaps for people like | Again. mentioning the adoption issue but also the fact that the one issue--the people who vote on this one issue, and how difficult, that is I think particularly; in the Republican Party, perhaps for people like | again, mentioning the adoption issue, but also the fact that the one issue--the people who vote on this one issue and how difficult that is, i think, particularly in the republican party perhaps, for people like yourself. |
Sure. And, in fact, because people broad-brush the party. And in some areas of the country, if you're not pro-choice you can't get elected. And we've got great pro-choice Republicans who get painted with this brush of not being pro-choice. So we've had to help break through the din surrounding them so that people actually evaluate where our candidate actually stands on these issues as opposed to just knee-jerk voting. | sure and in fact because people broad-brush the party and in some areas of the country if you're not pro-choice you can't get elected and we've got great pro-choice. republicans who get painted with this brush of not being pro-choice so we've had to help break through the din surrounding them so that people actually, evaluate where our candidate actually stands on, these issues as opposed to just knee-jerk | Sure And in fact because people broad-brush the party And in some areas of the country if you're, not pro-choice you can't get elected. And we've got great pro-choice Republicans who get painted with this brush of not being, pro-choice So, we've had to help break through the din surrounding them so that people. actually evaluate. where our candidate actually stands on these issues as, opposed; to just knee-jerk | sure. and, in fact, because people broad-brush the party. and in some areas of the country, if you're not pro-choice you can't get elected. and we've got great pro-choice republicans who get painted with this brush of not being pro-choice. so we've had to help break through the din surrounding them so that people actually evaluate where our candidate actually stands on these issues as opposed to just knee-jerk voting. |
But it is a filter for a lot of people. How they stand on choice really tells them a lot about how they feel about women in today's society and also how they stand on a whole host of other issues. So they do use it as a filter. | but it is, a filter for, a lot. of people how they stand on choice really tells them a lot about how they feel about women in, today's society and also how they stand on a whole host of other, issues so they do use it as a | But it is a filter for a lot. of people How they stand on choice really tells them a lot about how they feel about, women in today's society and also how they stand on a whole host of other, issues So they do use it as a, | but it is a filter for a lot of people. how they stand on choice really tells them a lot about how they feel about women in today's society and also how they stand on a whole host of other issues. so they do use it as a filter. |
And, Kristen, just quickly, if you can tell us what's going to become of this proposal of yours. Where does it go from here? | and kristen just quickly if you can tell us what's going to become of this proposal of yours where does, it go from | And Kristen just quickly if you, can tell us what's going to become of this, proposal of yours Where does it go from | and, kristen, just quickly, if you can tell us what's going to become of this proposal of yours. where does it go from here? |
Well, we're very excited. It's going to be introduced in the next couple months in Congress. And we're also going to have 95-10 initiatives introduced in all the states, too, because if Roe v. Wade is ever overturned, it's going to go back to the states, and that's where we're going to have help women and really end the abortion issue. | well we're very, excited it's going to. be introduced in the next couple months in congress and we're also going to have 95-10 initiatives introduced in all the states too. because if roe v wade is. ever overturned it's going to go back to the, states and that's where we're going to have help. women and really end the. abortion | Well we're very excited It's going to be introduced in the next couple months in Congress And we're also going to. have 95-10 initiatives, introduced in all the states too because if Roe v Wade is ever overturned it's going to go back to, the. states and; that's where we're going to have help women and really end the abortion | well, we're very excited. it's going to be introduced in the next couple months in congress. and we're also going to have 95-10 initiatives introduced in all the states, too, because if roe v. wade is ever overturned, it's going to go back to the states, and that's where we're going to have help women and really end the abortion issue. |
Kristen Day of Democrats for Life, thank you. And Ann Stone of Republicans For Choice, thanks also. | kristen day of democrats for life thank you, and ann stone of republicans for choice thanks | Kristen Day of Democrats for Life thank you And Ann Stone of Republicans For Choice thanks | kristen day of democrats for life, thank you. and ann stone of republicans for choice, thanks also. |
Thank you so much. | thank you so | Thank you so. | thank you so much. |
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Tomorrow it will be three months until the Olympics begin. Usually there'd be a panic by now that construction was way behind schedule. But incredibly, only a couple of major projects remain incompleted in Rio. No, rather the question remains, how much can go haywire during the games to distract us from our enchanting presidential campaign? Brazil, which just a few years ago looked economically like the next best thing to Warren Buffett, is now a financial shambles. | tomorrow it will be, three months until the olympics begin usually there'd be a panic by now that construction was way behind schedule but incredibly only a couple of major projects remain incompleted in rio no rather the question remains; how much can go haywire during the games to distract us, from our enchanting presidential campaign? brazil which just a few years ago looked economically like the next best thing to warren buffett is now a financial | Tomorrow it will be three months until the. Olympics, begin Usually there'd be a panic by now that construction was way behind schedule But incredibly only. a couple of major projects remain incompleted in Rio No rather the. question remains how much can go haywire during the games to distract us from our enchanting. presidential campaign? Brazil which just a few years ago looked economically like the next. best thing to Warren Buffett is now a financial | tomorrow it will be three months until the olympics begin. usually there'd be a panic by now that construction was way behind schedule. but incredibly, only a couple of major projects remain incompleted in rio. no, rather the question remains, how much can go haywire during the games to distract us from our enchanting presidential campaign? brazil, which just a few years ago looked economically like the next best thing to warren buffett, is now a financial shambles. |
The president is facing impeachment, and the disgruntled poor people are not above rioting. Brazil borders 10 different countries. So not even Donald Trump can build enough walls to keep the prospective terrorists out. The mosquitoes, of course, are already in. Zika is such a threat that the United States Olympic Committee has acknowledged that it will understand if concerned athletes don't feel like flying down to Rio. Pollution is so dreadful that at one venue, the water was measured at 1.7 million times what is considered hazardous. There's also the fear that construction has gone so expeditiously because corners have been cut, safety sacrificed for speed. A new bike path crumbled down into the ocean, taking two lives. And alligators promenade on the Olympic golf course, which sadly was carved out of a natural preserve. | the president is facing impeachment and the disgruntled poor people are not above rioting brazil borders 10 different countries so not even donald trump can build enough walls to, keep the prospective, terrorists out, the mosquitoes of course are, already in zika is such a threat that the united states olympic committee has acknowledged, that it will. understand if concerned athletes don't feel like. flying, down to rio pollution is so dreadful that at one venue the water was measured at 1.7 million. times what is, considered hazardous there's also the fear that construction has gone so expeditiously because corners have been, cut safety sacrificed for speed a new bike path crumbled down into the ocean taking two; lives and alligators promenade on the olympic golf course which sadly. was carved out of a natural. | The, president is facing, impeachment, and, the disgruntled poor people are not above rioting Brazil borders 10 different countries So not even Donald Trump can build, enough walls to keep the prospective terrorists out The mosquitoes of course are, already in Zika is such a threat that the United States Olympic Committee has acknowledged that it will understand if concerned athletes don't feel. like. flying down to. Rio Pollution is so dreadful; that at one venue the water was measured; at 1.7 million times. what is considered hazardous There's also the fear that construction has gone so expeditiously because corners have been cut safety sacrificed for speed A new bike path crumbled down into the ocean, taking two lives And alligators promenade on the Olympic golf course which sadly was carved out of. a natural | the president is facing impeachment, and the disgruntled poor people are not above rioting. brazil borders 10 different countries. so not even donald trump can build enough walls to keep the prospective terrorists out. the mosquitoes, of course, are already in. zika is such a threat that the united states olympic committee has acknowledged that it will understand if concerned athletes don't feel like flying down to rio. pollution is so dreadful that at one venue, the water was measured at 1.7 million times what is considered hazardous. there's also the fear that construction has gone so expeditiously because corners have been cut, safety sacrificed for speed. a new bike path crumbled down into the ocean, taking two lives. and alligators promenade on the olympic golf course, which sadly was carved out of a natural preserve. |
Ladies and gentlemen, this is why it's always wise to hold the Olympics in countries run by dictators so that the picayune little nuisances of 21st-century economics culture, health and environment can be dispatched with... Well, maybe not the alligators. Why do cities keep vying to host the Olympics? They invariably never live up to what the politicians and construction moguls promise. For instance, the Brazilian sports minister said recently that the games will reanimate the country and generate jobs. And pigs fly. | ladies and gentlemen this is why it's always wise to hold the olympics, in countries run by dictators so. that the picayune little. nuisances of 21st-century economics culture health and environment can be dispatched with... well maybe not the alligators why do cities keep vying to host the olympics? they invariably never live up to what the politicians and construction moguls promise for instance the brazilian sports minister said recently that, the games will reanimate the country and generate jobs. and pigs | Ladies and gentlemen this is why it's always wise to hold the, Olympics in countries; run by dictators. so. that the picayune little nuisances of, 21st-century economics culture health and; environment can be dispatched with... Well maybe not the alligators Why do cities keep vying to host, the Olympics? They invariably never, live up to what the politicians and construction, moguls promise For instance the Brazilian sports minister said recently that the games will reanimate, the country and generate jobs And pigs | ladies and gentlemen, this is why it's always wise to hold the olympics in countries run by dictators so that the picayune little nuisances of 21st-century economics culture, health and environment can be dispatched with... well, maybe not the alligators. why do cities keep vying to host the olympics? they invariably never live up to what the politicians and construction moguls promise. for instance, the brazilian sports minister said recently that the games will reanimate the country and generate jobs. and pigs fly. |
But here we have both Paris and Rome bidding for the 2024 games. Why? What can the Olympics do for Paris or Rome that the tourists, poets and lovers haven't celebrated for ages? Actually, Los Angeles is also bidding for 2024. And in point of fact, LA is, given its spacious geography and existing sports facilities, probably the best city in the free world to hold the games. Los Angeles is feeling its oats too because it finally got an NFL franchise back, which means a brand-new stadium for the Olympics. And it has golf courses galore without any alligators. | but here we have. both paris and, rome bidding for the 2024 games; why? what can the olympics do for paris or rome that the tourists poets and lovers haven't celebrated for ages? actually los angeles is also bidding for 2024. and in point of. fact la is given its spacious geography and existing sports facilities probably the best city, in, the free world. to hold, the games los angeles is feeling its oats, too because it finally got an nfl franchise back which means a brand-new. stadium, for the olympics and it has golf courses galore without any | But here we. have both Paris and Rome bidding for the 2024 games Why? What can the Olympics do for Paris or Rome that the tourists poets and lovers haven't celebrated for ages? Actually Los Angeles is also bidding for 2024. And in point of fact LA; is given its spacious geography and existing sports facilities, probably the best city in the free world to, hold the games, Los Angeles is feeling its oats too because it. finally, got an NFL franchise back which means a brand-new stadium for the Olympics And it has golf courses galore without, any | but here we have both paris and rome bidding for the 2024 games. why? what can the olympics do for paris or rome that the tourists, poets and lovers haven't celebrated for ages? actually, los angeles is also bidding for 2024. and in point of fact, la is, given its spacious geography and existing sports facilities, probably the best city in the free world to hold the games. los angeles is feeling its oats too because it finally got an nfl franchise back, which means a brand-new stadium for the olympics. and it has golf courses galore without any alligators. |
Commentator Frank Deford joins us here the first Wednesday of every month. His latest book is called, "I'd Know That Voice Anywhere: My Favorite NPR Commentaries." | commentator frank deford joins us here the first wednesday of every month his latest book is called "i'd know that voice anywhere: my, favorite npr | Commentator Frank Deford joins us here the first Wednesday of every month His latest book is called "I'd, Know That Voice Anywhere: My Favorite NPR | commentator frank deford joins us here the first wednesday of every month. his latest book is called, "i'd know that voice anywhere: my favorite npr commentaries." |
Yesterday, David Johnson lived a heckler's dream. Here's what happened - the golf fan from North Dakota was watching a practice session for the Ryder Cup, which will be played this weekend in Minnesota. | yesterday david johnson lived; a heckler's dream here's what happened - the; golf fan from north dakota, was. watching a practice session for the ryder cup which will. be played this weekend in | Yesterday David Johnson lived a. heckler's dream Here's what happened - the golf fan from North Dakota was. watching a practice session for the Ryder Cup which will be played this weekend in | yesterday, david johnson lived a heckler's dream. here's what happened - the golf fan from north dakota was watching a practice session for the ryder cup, which will be played this weekend in minnesota. |
Now, for you non-golfers, the Ryder Cup is a competition between European and American pros that takes place every two years. The cup has a history of attracting some rowdy fans - not rowdy by hockey-fan standards, but for golf, pretty rowdy. And yesterday, during the practice session, European golfers Rory McIlroy and Andy Sullivan struggled with a 12-foot putt. | now for you. non-golfers, the ryder cup is a competition between european and american pros that takes place, every two years the cup, has a; history of attracting some rowdy fans - not rowdy by; hockey-fan. standards but for, golf pretty rowdy and yesterday during the practice session european golfers rory mcilroy and andy sullivan struggled with, a 12-foot | Now for you non-golfers the Ryder Cup is a competition between European and American pros that takes place every two years The cup has a history of attracting some rowdy fans - not rowdy, by hockey-fan standards but for golf pretty rowdy And yesterday during the practice, session European golfers Rory McIlroy; and Andy Sullivan struggled with. a 12-foot | now, for you non-golfers, the ryder cup is a competition between european and american pros that takes place every two years. the cup has a history of attracting some rowdy fans - not rowdy by hockey-fan standards, but for golf, pretty rowdy. and yesterday, during the practice session, european golfers rory mcilroy and andy sullivan struggled with a 12-foot putt. |
American fan David Johnson was standing nearby, watching them miss the putt over and over. And as he told ESPN later, he couldn't contain himself. | american fan david johnson. was standing; nearby watching them miss the putt over and over and as he told espn later. he couldn't; contain | American fan David; Johnson was standing nearby watching them miss the putt over and over And as he told ESPN later. he couldn't contain | american fan david johnson was standing nearby, watching them miss the putt over and over. and as he told espn later, he couldn't contain himself. |
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I don't know what came over me. You know, cheering for Team USA, and they were sitting there putting, couldn't do it. So I said, well, I can do it. Give me a shot. | i, don't know what came over. me, you know cheering for team usa and they were sitting there, putting; couldn't do it so i said well i can do it give me a | I don't know what came over me You know cheering for, Team USA and they were sitting there putting couldn't do it So I said well I can do it Give me a | i don't know what came over me. you know, cheering for team usa, and they were sitting there putting, couldn't do it. so i said, well, i can do it. give me a shot. |
And to everyone's amazement, David Johnson got his shot. European team member and current British Open champion Henrik Stenson pulled Johnson out of the crowd, which went wild. | and to everyone's amazement, david johnson got his shot european team member and current british open champion henrik stenson pulled johnson out, of the crowd which went | And to everyone's amazement David Johnson got his shot European team member and current. British Open champion; Henrik Stenson pulled Johnson out of the crowd which went | and to everyone's amazement, david johnson got his shot. european team member and current british open champion henrik stenson pulled johnson out of the crowd, which went wild. |
And which critical areas that concern you the most? | and which critical areas that concern you the | And. which critical areas that concern you the | and which critical areas that concern you the most? |
The Transportation Department says some 415,000 rail cars carrying crude oil from the Bakken formation in North Dakota moved throughout the US last year. That's an exponential increase in fewer than 10 years. But with the increase in rail traffic have come some highly publicized accidents - the worst in Quebec last year when a train carrying Bakken crude exploded in a small town, killing 47 people. Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx says it's time for some changes. | the transportation department says some 415,000 rail cars carrying crude oil from the, bakken, formation in north dakota moved throughout the us last year that's an exponential increase in fewer than 10 years but with the increase in rail traffic have come some highly, publicized accidents - the worst in quebec last year when a train, carrying bakken crude exploded in; a small town killing 47 people transportation secretary anthony foxx says it's time for some | The Transportation, Department says some 415,000 rail cars carrying crude oil, from the Bakken formation in North Dakota moved, throughout the US last year That's an exponential increase in fewer than 10 years; But with the increase in rail traffic have come some highly; publicized accidents - the worst in Quebec last year when a train carrying Bakken crude exploded in a small town killing 47 people Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx says it's time for some | the transportation department says some 415,000 rail cars carrying crude oil from the bakken formation in north dakota moved throughout the us last year. that's an exponential increase in fewer than 10 years. but with the increase in rail traffic have come some highly publicized accidents - the worst in quebec last year when a train carrying bakken crude exploded in a small town, killing 47 people. transportation secretary anthony foxx says it's time for some changes. |
The bottom line is that we're going to be very clear that we need a new world order on how this stuff moves. | the bottom line is, that we're going. to be very clear that we need a, new world order on how this stuff | The bottom, line is that we're going to be very clear that we need a new world order on how this stuff | the bottom line is that we're going to be very clear that we need a new world order on how this stuff moves. |
That new world order includes making oil shippers either retrofit an older model of rail car or stop using them in two years. The department is proposing that new cars have thicker walls and better breaks. It's also proposing a 40 mph speed limit for trains using the older cars in certain areas and for shippers to notify state officials along the proposed route. Foxx says safety is the main priority. | that new world order includes, making oil shippers either retrofit an older. model of rail car or stop using them in two years. the department is proposing that new cars have thicker walls and better breaks it's also proposing a 40 mph speed limit for trains using the older. cars. in certain, areas and for, shippers to notify state officials along the proposed route. foxx says safety is the main | That new world, order includes making oil shippers either. retrofit, an older model of rail car or stop using them in two years The department is proposing that new cars have thicker walls and better breaks. It's also proposing a 40 mph speed limit, for trains using the older cars in certain areas and for, shippers to notify state officials along the proposed route Foxx says. safety is the main | that new world order includes making oil shippers either retrofit an older model of rail car or stop using them in two years. the department is proposing that new cars have thicker walls and better breaks. it's also proposing a 40 mph speed limit for trains using the older cars in certain areas and for shippers to notify state officials along the proposed route. foxx says safety is the main priority. |
Out of all of the options our rule presents, it is mine and our department's preference to go with the one that's safest for communities along these routes and for the men and women operating these trains. | out of all of the options our rule presents it; is mine. and our department's preference to go with the, one that's safest for communities along these routes and for the men and women operating these | Out of. all of the options our rule. presents it is mine and our, department's. preference to go, with the one that's safest for communities along. these routes and for the men and women operating these | out of all of the options our rule presents, it is mine and our department's preference to go with the one that's safest for communities along these routes and for the men and women operating these trains. |
Foxx said department tests have shown the Bakken crude more volatile and flammable than other crude oils. The American Petroleum Institute disagrees, issuing a statement calling that speculation. Industry groups and others have 60 days to comment on the proposals. And environmental group ForestEthics says the department has underestimated the threat that trains pose - calling the worst ones unsafe at any speed, saying they should be banned immediately. Brian Naylor, NPR News, Washington. | foxx said department tests have shown the bakken, crude more volatile and flammable than other crude oils the american petroleum institute disagrees, issuing, a. statement calling that, speculation industry groups and others have 60 days. to comment on, the proposals and environmental group forestethics says the department, has, underestimated, the threat that trains, pose - calling the worst ones unsafe at any speed saying, they should be banned immediately brian naylor npr. news | Foxx said department tests. have shown the Bakken. crude more volatile and flammable than other crude oils The American Petroleum Institute disagrees issuing a statement calling that speculation Industry groups and others have 60 days to comment on the proposals And environmental, group ForestEthics says the department has underestimated the threat that trains pose - calling the worst ones unsafe at any speed saying they should be banned immediately Brian Naylor NPR News | foxx said department tests have shown the bakken crude more volatile and flammable than other crude oils. the american petroleum institute disagrees, issuing a statement calling that speculation. industry groups and others have 60 days to comment on the proposals. and environmental group forestethics says the department has underestimated the threat that trains pose - calling the worst ones unsafe at any speed, saying they should be banned immediately. brian naylor, npr news, washington. |
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