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What would you like to do on the Internet that you can't do now? Coming up, a look at the future of the Web. Will it remain a wild and woolly free-for-all place? Or will the people who sell you content and service decide to make it more like cable television, charging you for both the connection and the content, and who will decide?	what would you like to; do on. the, internet that. you can't do now? coming up a look at the, future of the web will it remain a wild and woolly free-for-all; place? or will, the people who sell you content and service decide to make it more like. cable television charging, you for both the connection and the content and who will	What. would, you like. to do on the Internet that you can't do now? Coming up a look at the future of the Web Will it remain a wild and woolly free-for-all place? Or will. the, people who sell you content and service decide to. make it more like cable television charging you for. both the connection and the content. and who will	what would you like to do on the internet that you can't do now? coming up, a look at the future of the web. will it remain a wild and woolly free-for-all place? or will the people who sell you content and service decide to make it more like cable television, charging you for both the connection and the content, and who will decide?
Also, now that we've got Web casting, video-on-demand, and billions of baby pictures, will the information superhighway need to be widened to accommodate whatever that next big thing is? Plus, voice-over-IP, phoning over the Internet, is it right for you? We'll talk about the basics of making that switch after the break. Stay with us.	also, now that we've got web casting video-on-demand and billions of baby pictures will the information superhighway need to be widened, to accommodate whatever that next big thing, is? plus voice-over-ip phoning over the internet is it right for you? we'll talk about the basics of making that switch. after the break stay with,	Also now that we've got Web casting, video-on-demand and billions of baby pictures will the information superhighway need to be widened to accommodate whatever that. next big thing is? Plus voice-over-IP phoning over the Internet is. it right for you? We'll talk about the basics of making that switch, after the break Stay with.	also, now that we've got web casting, video-on-demand, and billions of baby pictures, will the information superhighway need to be widened to accommodate whatever that next big thing is? plus, voice-over-ip, phoning over the internet, is it right for you? we'll talk about the basics of making that switch after the break. stay with us.
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This is TALK OF THE NATION: SCIENCE FRIDAY. I am Ira Flatow. Yesterday, the House Judiciary Committee approved a bill enforcing the idea of network neutrality on the Internet. Now that idea, that telecommunications companies who provide the wires that connect many of us to the Internet, should not be able to give some material preferential treatment as it travels over wires. Now this is a very important issue to you as a consumer and a user of the Internet, and it goes to a basic question about the Internet and its future.	this is talk of the nation: science friday i am ira flatow yesterday the house judiciary committee approved. a bill enforcing the idea of network neutrality on the internet now that idea that telecommunications companies who provide the wires that, connect many of us to the internet should not be able to give some material preferential treatment. as it travels over wires now this is a, very important issue to, you as a. consumer and a user of the internet and it goes to a basic question about the internet and its	This is TALK OF THE NATION: SCIENCE FRIDAY I am Ira Flatow Yesterday the House Judiciary Committee. approved a, bill enforcing the idea of, network neutrality on the Internet Now that idea. that telecommunications, companies who provide the wires that connect many of us to the Internet should not be able to give some material preferential treatment as it travels over wires Now this. is a very important issue to you as a consumer and a user of the Internet and it goes to a basic question about the Internet and its	this is talk of the nation: science friday. i am ira flatow. yesterday, the house judiciary committee approved a bill enforcing the idea of network neutrality on the internet. now that idea, that telecommunications companies who provide the wires that connect many of us to the internet, should not be able to give some material preferential treatment as it travels over wires. now this is a very important issue to you as a consumer and a user of the internet, and it goes to a basic question about the internet and its future.
Is it a network connection like an electrical hookup where you pay for the amount of stuff that gets sent to you? Or is it like a cell phone connection where the company at the other end of the line controls your service where, for example, you have no choice over which phone, which cell phone company you can dial into once you have that cell phone, so they control more of what you can do on the Internet?	is it a network connection like an electrical hookup where you pay for the amount of stuff that gets; sent. to you? or is it like a cell phone connection where the company at the, other end of the line controls your, service where. for example you have no choice over which phone which cell phone company you can dial into once you. have that cell phone so they control more of what. you can do on the	Is it a, network connection like. an electrical hookup where you pay for the amount of stuff that gets sent to you? Or is it like a cell, phone connection, where the company at the other end of the line controls your service where. for; example you have no choice over which, phone which cell phone company you can dial, into once you have that cell. phone so they control more of what you can do on the	is it a network connection like an electrical hookup where you pay for the amount of stuff that gets sent to you? or is it like a cell phone connection where the company at the other end of the line controls your service where, for example, you have no choice over which phone, which cell phone company you can dial into once you have that cell phone, so they control more of what you can do on the internet?
This hour we're gonna be talking about the future of the Internet, from issues of legal control and governmental influence to the basic networking that holds the Internet connection together. Can the network continue to grow to take on new technologies? You know, we've got music and video and streaming, whatever. Who knows what Steve Jobs has got in store for us next? Or do developers need to scrap it altogether, come up with some sort of new idea for hooking us all and talking to us all together?	this hour we're gonna be talking about the future of the internet from issues of legal control and governmental influence to the basic networking. that holds the internet, connection together can the network continue to grow to take on new, technologies? you know we've got music and video and streaming whatever who knows what steve, jobs has got in. store for us next? or do developers need to scrap it altogether come up. with some sort of new idea for hooking us all and talking to us all	This hour we're gonna be, talking about the future of the Internet from issues of legal control and governmental influence; to the basic networking that holds the Internet connection together Can the network, continue to grow to take on new technologies? You know we've got music and video and streaming whatever Who knows what Steve Jobs has got in store for us next? Or do developers need to scrap it, altogether come up with some sort of new idea, for hooking us all. and talking to us. all,	this hour we're gonna be talking about the future of the internet, from issues of legal control and governmental influence to the basic networking that holds the internet connection together. can the network continue to grow to take on new technologies? you know, we've got music and video and streaming, whatever. who knows what steve jobs has got in store for us next? or do developers need to scrap it altogether, come up with some sort of new idea for hooking us all and talking to us all together?
What do you think? What would you like to do on the Internet that you can't do now? How do you think the Internet should look 10 years from now? What would you like to be doing on it? What do you think it should be doing? And how should it, who should be making those decisions about what it should look like? Our number, 1-800-989-8255, 1-800-989-TALK. As always, you can surf over to our website at sciencefriday.com.	what do you think? what would you like to do on the internet that you can't do now? how do you. think the internet should look 10 years from now? what would, you like to be doing on it? what do. you think it, should be doing? and how should it who. should be making; those decisions about what, it should look like? our number 1-800-989-8255, 1-800-989-talk as always you can surf over, to. our, website at	What do you think? What would you like to do on the Internet that you can't do now? How do you think the Internet should look 10 years from now? What would you like to be doing on it? What do you think it should be doing? And how should it who should be making those decisions about what it should look like? Our number 1-800-989-8255, 1-800-989-TALK As always you. can surf over to our website at	what do you think? what would you like to do on the internet that you can't do now? how do you think the internet should look 10 years from now? what would you like to be doing on it? what do you think it should be doing? and how should it, who should be making those decisions about what it should look like? our number, 1-800-989-8255, 1-800-989-talk. as always, you can surf over to our website at sciencefriday.com.
Tim Wu is a professor of law at Columbia University here in New York, and he's also co-author of the book Who Controls the Internet: Illusions of a Borderless World, just out from Oxford University Press. He joins me from our studios at member station WUCF in Orlando. Welcome to the program.	tim wu is a professor of law at columbia university here, in new york and he's also co-author of the book who controls the internet: illusions of a borderless world, just out from oxford, university press, he joins me from our studios at member, station wucf, in orlando welcome to the	Tim Wu is a professor of law at Columbia University here in New York and he's also co-author; of the book Who Controls the. Internet: Illusions of a Borderless World just out from Oxford University Press He joins me from our studios at member station WUCF in Orlando; Welcome to the	tim wu is a professor of law at columbia university here in new york, and he's also co-author of the book who controls the internet: illusions of a borderless world, just out from oxford university press. he joins me from our studios at member station wucf in orlando. welcome to the program.
UMass Dartmouth is not the flagship state school but it has a sprawling, wooded, 700-acre campus on the southern coast of Massachusetts between Rhode Island and Cape Cod. It's about an hour from Boston. The buildings and dorms are large blocks of ribbed concrete in a style of architecture known as brutalism. This week, students were still walking around campus, sunbathing and reading in the library.	umass dartmouth is not the flagship state school but it has a sprawling wooded 700-acre campus on the southern coast of massachusetts between rhode island and cape cod it's, about an hour from boston, the buildings and dorms are large blocks of ribbed concrete in a style of architecture, known as, brutalism this week students were still walking around campus sunbathing and reading in the.	UMass Dartmouth is not the flagship state school but it has a sprawling wooded 700-acre campus on the southern coast of Massachusetts between, Rhode Island and Cape Cod It's about an hour from Boston The buildings and dorms are large blocks of ribbed concrete in. a style of architecture known as brutalism This week students were still walking around campus sunbathing and reading, in the	umass dartmouth is not the flagship state school but it has a sprawling, wooded, 700-acre campus on the southern coast of massachusetts between rhode island and cape cod. it's about an hour from boston. the buildings and dorms are large blocks of ribbed concrete in a style of architecture known as brutalism. this week, students were still walking around campus, sunbathing and reading in the library.
What you really feel is a sense of affinity; family, pride, because everyone's just come to care for each other.	what, you really feel is a sense of affinity family pride because everyone's just come to care for each	What you really feel is a, sense. of affinity family pride because everyone's just come to care for each	what you really feel is a sense of affinity; family, pride, because everyone's just come to care for each other.
Joshua Encarnacion is finishing his junior year. He is president of his class.	joshua encarnacion is finishing his junior year he is president of his	Joshua. Encarnacion is finishing his junior year He; is president of his	joshua encarnacion is finishing his junior year. he is president of his class.
I feel like all of the media attention focuses on what people see from outside in. Because on campus, the first day back we were right back to work. It feels like no one missed an assignment, no professor was late on work. And so everybody was ready to begin finals week when it all happened.	i feel like. all of the media attention focuses on what people see from outside in because on campus, the first day back we were right back to work it feels like no one missed an assignment no professor was late on work and, so everybody was, ready to begin finals week, when it, all	I feel like all of the media attention focuses on what people see from outside in Because, on campus the first. day back, we were right back to work It feels like no one missed. an assignment. no. professor, was, late on work And so everybody was ready to begin finals week when it all	i feel like all of the media attention focuses on what people see from outside in. because on campus, the first day back we were right back to work. it feels like no one missed an assignment, no professor was late on work. and so everybody was ready to begin finals week when it all happened.
What happened was the arrest of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the 19-year-old Boston Marathon bombing suspect. He lived in a dorm on campus and the school was evacuated for a day. Classmates have since told police and the media that he played intramural soccer, smoked marijuana and was a mediocre student. Police and the FBI eventually arrested three of his friends, only one of whom was still enrolled at the school. Officials say the friends had no knowledge of the bombings beforehand but they're charged with destroying evidence and misleading police. At first, the school administration had no comment. It has since announced plans to review its handling of several issues. And Chancellor Divina Grossman says the arrests do not represent the campus of 9,500 students.	what, happened was the arrest of dzhokhar, tsarnaev the 19-year-old, boston marathon bombing suspect he lived in a dorm on campus and the school was evacuated for a day classmates have since told police, and the media, that he played intramural soccer; smoked. marijuana and was. a mediocre student police and the fbi eventually arrested three of his friends only one of whom was still enrolled at. the school, officials say the friends had no knowledge of the bombings. beforehand but they're charged with. destroying evidence and misleading police at first, the school administration had no comment it has since announced plans to review. its handling of several issues and chancellor divina grossman, says the arrests do not. represent the campus of	What happened, was the arrest of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev the 19-year-old Boston Marathon; bombing suspect He lived in a dorm on campus, and, the school, was evacuated for a day Classmates have since told police and the media that he played intramural soccer smoked marijuana and was a mediocre student, Police and the FBI eventually arrested three of. his friends only one of, whom was still. enrolled, at the school Officials say the friends had no knowledge of the bombings beforehand but they're charged with destroying evidence and misleading police At first the school administration had no comment It has since announced plans to review its handling of several issues And Chancellor Divina, Grossman says the arrests do not represent the campus of	what happened was the arrest of dzhokhar tsarnaev, the 19-year-old boston marathon bombing suspect. he lived in a dorm on campus and the school was evacuated for a day. classmates have since told police and the media that he played intramural soccer, smoked marijuana and was a mediocre student. police and the fbi eventually arrested three of his friends, only one of whom was still enrolled at the school. officials say the friends had no knowledge of the bombings beforehand but they're charged with destroying evidence and misleading police. at first, the school administration had no comment. it has since announced plans to review its handling of several issues. and chancellor divina grossman says the arrests do not represent the campus of 9,500 students.
This is a beacon of hope and educational opportunity in this region. The men and women who worked in the textile mills and the fishing industry, they had bright hopes and aspirations for their children.	this is a beacon of hope and educational. opportunity. in, this region the men and, women who worked in the textile mills and the fishing industry they had bright hopes, and aspirations for their	This is a beacon of hope and. educational opportunity in this region The men and women who worked in the textile mills and the fishing industry they had bright hopes and. aspirations for their	this is a beacon of hope and educational opportunity in this region. the men and women who worked in the textile mills and the fishing industry, they had bright hopes and aspirations for their children.
Chancellor Grossman herself first came to the school as a foreign student from the Philippines.	chancellor grossman herself first came to the school as a foreign student from the	Chancellor Grossman herself first came to the school as, a foreign student. from the	chancellor grossman herself first came to the school as a foreign student from the philippines.
So, when you look at UMass Dartmouth, the real story about it is how it transforms lives of individual students and how for many of our students it's the first time somebody in their family is going to college and completing college.	so when you look at umass dartmouth the real story about it is how it transforms lives. of individual students and how for many of our students. it's the first, time somebody in their family is going to college and completing	So when you look at; UMass Dartmouth the real story about; it is how it transforms lives. of individual students and how for many of our students it's the first time somebody in their; family is going to college and completing	so, when you look at umass dartmouth, the real story about it is how it transforms lives of individual students and how for many of our students it's the first time somebody in their family is going to college and completing college.
Grossman says UMass Dartmouth didn't turn Dzhokhar Tsarnaev into a terrorist, just as Harvard didn't turn Ted Kaczynski into a Unabomber. And at a school where about half the students live off-campus, it's difficult to keep track of what they do in their free time. Senior Leanne Poirier has been reporting on the arrests for the school paper. She says it's strange, and somewhat frustrating, for her school to be associated with alleged terrorist activity.	grossman says umass dartmouth didn't turn dzhokhar tsarnaev into a terrorist just as harvard, didn't turn ted kaczynski, into a unabomber and at a school where, about half the students live off-campus it's difficult to keep; track of, what they do in, their free time senior leanne poirier has been reporting on the arrests for, the school paper she says it's strange, and somewhat frustrating for her school. to be. associated with alleged, terrorist	Grossman says UMass Dartmouth didn't turn; Dzhokhar Tsarnaev into a terrorist just as Harvard, didn't turn Ted, Kaczynski into. a Unabomber And at a school where about half the students. live off-campus; it's difficult to keep track of, what they do in their free time, Senior Leanne Poirier has been reporting on the arrests for. the school paper She says it's strange and somewhat frustrating for her school to be associated with alleged terrorist	grossman says umass dartmouth didn't turn dzhokhar tsarnaev into a terrorist, just as harvard didn't turn ted kaczynski into a unabomber. and at a school where about half the students live off-campus, it's difficult to keep track of what they do in their free time. senior leanne poirier has been reporting on the arrests for the school paper. she says it's strange, and somewhat frustrating, for her school to be associated with alleged terrorist activity.
People are kind of joking now, like, oh my gosh, like, UMass is breeding terrorists. But I don't think that's the case at all. I just think that it's a low-cost school, it's a state school and, you know, some people ended up being here at the wrong time for all of us, I guess.	people. are kind of joking now like oh my gosh like umass is, breeding terrorists. but i don't think that's the, case at all i just think that it's a low-cost school it's a state school and you know some people ended up being here at, the wrong time for all of us i	People are kind of joking now like oh my gosh like UMass is breeding terrorists But I don't think that's the; case at all I just think that it's a low-cost, school it's, a state school and you know some people. ended, up being here at the wrong time for all of us I.	people are kind of joking now, like, oh my gosh, like, umass is breeding terrorists. but i don't think that's the case at all. i just think that it's a low-cost school, it's a state school and, you know, some people ended up being here at the wrong time for all of us, i guess.
Still, in response to the arrests, UMass Dartmouth is boosting security and limiting the number of people who may attend graduation. For NPR News, I'm Anne Mostue.	still in response to the arrests umass dartmouth is boosting security, and limiting the number of people who may attend graduation for npr news i'm anne	Still in response to the arrests UMass Dartmouth is, boosting security and limiting the number of people who may attend graduation For NPR News I'm; Anne	still, in response to the arrests, umass dartmouth is boosting security and limiting the number of people who may attend graduation. for npr news, i'm anne mostue.
Good morning. I'm Noel King. A California man has set out to prove that the Earth is flat. Mike Hughes wants to launch himself into space in a home-built rocket to get a look. He worked on the rocket for two years. And this weekend, he made it to - not space exactly. He got a third of a mile into the air then fell back to Earth. The rocket had a parachute, but Hughes got a little banged up. He told a reporter he had a sore back and just wanted to get home, have dinner and see his cats. It's MORNING EDITION.	good morning i'm, noel king a california man has set, out to prove that the earth is flat mike hughes wants to launch himself into space in a home-built rocket to get a look he; worked on the rocket for two years and this. weekend he made it to - not. space exactly he got a third of a mile into the air then fell back to earth the rocket had a parachute but hughes got, a little banged up he told a reporter he had a sore back and, just wanted to get home have dinner and see; his cats it's morning	Good morning I'm Noel King A California man has set out, to. prove that the; Earth is flat Mike Hughes wants, to, launch himself into, space in a home-built rocket to get a look He worked on the rocket for two years And this weekend he, made it to - not space exactly He got a; third of a mile into the air then fell back to Earth The rocket had a parachute but Hughes got a little banged up He told a reporter he had a sore back and. just wanted to get home, have dinner and see his cats It's MORNING,	good morning. i'm noel king. a california man has set out to prove that the earth is flat. mike hughes wants to launch himself into space in a home-built rocket to get a look. he worked on the rocket for two years. and this weekend, he made it to - not space exactly. he got a third of a mile into the air then fell back to earth. the rocket had a parachute, but hughes got a little banged up. he told a reporter he had a sore back and just wanted to get home, have dinner and see his cats. it's morning edition.
Everywhere we go, we are carrying around little tracking devices. You know this. It's our cell phones. Wireless providers keep records of where we have been, and those records, as you can imagine, are of great interest to law enforcement. But here's a question. Does the government need a warrant to look at cellphone location data? That is a question in front of the Supreme Court this morning, and here's more from NPR legal affairs correspondent Nina Totenberg.	everywhere we go we are carrying around little tracking devices you know this it's our cell phones wireless providers keep records of where we have been and those records as you can imagine are of great interest to law enforcement but here's a; question does the government need a warrant to. look at cellphone location data? that is a question in front of, the supreme court this morning and here's. more from npr legal affairs correspondent nina	Everywhere we go we are carrying around little tracking devices You know this It's our cell phones Wireless providers keep records of where we, have been and, those records as you can imagine are of great interest to law enforcement But, here's a question Does the government need a warrant to look at cellphone. location data? That is a question in front of the Supreme Court this morning and here's, more from NPR legal affairs correspondent Nina	everywhere we go, we are carrying around little tracking devices. you know this. it's our cell phones. wireless providers keep records of where we have been, and those records, as you can imagine, are of great interest to law enforcement. but here's a question. does the government need a warrant to look at cellphone location data? that is a question in front of the supreme court this morning, and here's more from npr legal affairs correspondent nina totenberg.
The irony of today's case is that it involves massive cellphone thefts, a string of armed robberies at RadioShacks in Michigan and Ohio. The robbers entered the stores, guns drawn, herded patrons to the back, loaded up laundry bags with new smartphones and then later sold their booty for tens of thousands of dollars per haul. In April of 2011, police arrested four men, one of whom confessed that he and a shifting group of 15 others had robbed nine different stores over the previous year. The suspect identified Timothy Carpenter as one of the ringleaders. The thieves all pleaded guilty except for Carpenter and his half brother. At their trial, the icing on the prosecution case was the cellphone location information recorded by Carpenter's wireless provider for each of the calls he placed or received on the dates of the robberies.	the, irony of today's case is that it involves massive cellphone thefts a string of armed robberies at radioshacks in. michigan and ohio the robbers entered the stores guns drawn herded patrons to the back loaded up laundry. bags with. new smartphones and then later sold their booty for tens of thousands of dollars per haul in april of 2011, police arrested four men one of, whom confessed that he and a shifting group of 15 others had robbed nine different stores over the previous, year the suspect identified timothy carpenter as, one of the ringleaders the, thieves all pleaded guilty except for carpenter and his half brother at their trial the icing on the prosecution case was. the cellphone location information, recorded by carpenter's, wireless provider for each of. the calls he placed or. received on the dates of, the	The irony of today's case is that it involves massive cellphone thefts, a string. of. armed robberies at RadioShacks in Michigan and Ohio The robbers entered the stores guns drawn. herded patrons to the back loaded up. laundry bags with new smartphones and then later sold their booty for tens of thousands of dollars per haul, In April of 2011, police arrested four men one of, whom confessed that he and a shifting group of 15 others had robbed nine different stores over, the previous year The. suspect identified Timothy Carpenter as one. of the ringleaders The thieves all pleaded guilty except for Carpenter and his half brother At their trial the icing on the prosecution case was the cellphone location information recorded by Carpenter's wireless, provider for each of the calls he placed or received on the dates of the	the irony of today's case is that it involves massive cellphone thefts, a string of armed robberies at radioshacks in michigan and ohio. the robbers entered the stores, guns drawn, herded patrons to the back, loaded up laundry bags with new smartphones and then later sold their booty for tens of thousands of dollars per haul. in april of 2011, police arrested four men, one of whom confessed that he and a shifting group of 15 others had robbed nine different stores over the previous year. the suspect identified timothy carpenter as one of the ringleaders. the thieves all pleaded guilty except for carpenter and his half brother. at their trial, the icing on the prosecution case was the cellphone location information recorded by carpenter's wireless provider for each of the calls he placed or received on the dates of the robberies.
Now, remember, this was seven years ago and several smartphone generations. The information used at Carpenter's trial was not exactly precise. It did not record where he was when he texted or where he was when his phone was not in use, but when he made or received calls, the cellphone towers nearby recorded his general location with an accuracy range of about a half mile to two miles. And guess what? Those calls matched up rather nicely with the vicinity of the robberies. While there was eyewitness and video evidence against Carpenter, too, his lawyer Harold Gurwitz said the painfully irrefutable evidence was the cellphone data.	now remember this was seven years ago and several smartphone generations the information used at carpenter's trial was not, exactly precise it, did not record where he was when. he texted or where he was when his phone was not in use but when he made or received calls the cellphone towers nearby recorded his general location with an accuracy range. of about a half mile to two miles and guess what? those calls matched up rather nicely with the vicinity of. the robberies while there was eyewitness and video evidence against carpenter too. his lawyer harold gurwitz said the painfully. irrefutable evidence was the cellphone	Now remember this was seven years ago and several smartphone generations The information, used at Carpenter's trial. was not exactly precise It did not record where. he was when he texted or where he was when, his phone was not in use but when he made or received calls the cellphone towers nearby. recorded his general location with an accuracy range of about a half mile to two miles And guess what? Those calls matched, up rather nicely with the vicinity of the robberies While there was eyewitness and video evidence against Carpenter too his lawyer Harold Gurwitz said the painfully irrefutable evidence was the cellphone	now, remember, this was seven years ago and several smartphone generations. the information used at carpenter's trial was not exactly precise. it did not record where he was when he texted or where he was when his phone was not in use, but when he made or received calls, the cellphone towers nearby recorded his general location with an accuracy range of about a half mile to two miles. and guess what? those calls matched up rather nicely with the vicinity of the robberies. while there was eyewitness and video evidence against carpenter, too, his lawyer harold gurwitz said the painfully irrefutable evidence was the cellphone data.
It's the kind of evidence that in the end is the most difficult to argue to a jury that they shouldn't credit because the records are what they are.	it's the kind of evidence that in the end is the most difficult to argue to a jury that. they shouldn't credit because the records are what they.	It's the kind of evidence that in, the end. is the most difficult to argue to. a jury that they, shouldn't credit because the records are what they	it's the kind of evidence that in the end is the most difficult to argue to a jury that they shouldn't credit because the records are what they are.
The question before the Supreme Court is whether the cops should have gotten a search warrant in order to obtain the cell location information. That would have required them to show a judge that they had probable cause to believe those records contained evidence of a crime. What they did instead was obtain a court order under the federal Stored Communications Act, which is easier. In this case, as in others, prosecutors argue that the Supreme Court has long viewed information shared by a consumer as fair game without a warrant. Even before the stored records law was enacted, the high court ruled that you lose your Fourth Amendment right to privacy when you share information with a third party like the phone company. Fourth Amendment scholar Orin Kerr contends that the idea of tracking someone's movements in public is not new. The police, for instance, tail a suspect or check on his alibi. Only when they search the suspect's home or person do they have to get a court-approved warrant. As to the general cell location data at issue in this case, he maintains...	the question before. the supreme court is whether the. cops should have gotten a search warrant in order to obtain the cell location information, that would have required them to show a judge that they had probable cause. to believe those records contained evidence of a crime what they; did instead was obtain, a court order under the federal stored communications act which is easier in, this case as in others prosecutors argue that the supreme. court has long viewed information shared by a consumer as fair game without a warrant even before the stored. records law, was enacted the. high court ruled that; you lose, your fourth amendment right to, privacy when you share information with a third party like the phone company fourth. amendment scholar orin kerr contends that the idea, of tracking someone's movements in public is not new the police for instance tail, a suspect or check on; his. alibi only when they search, the suspect's home or person do, they have to get a court-approved warrant as to the general cell location; data at issue in this case he	The question before the Supreme Court is whether the cops should have gotten a, search. warrant in. order. to obtain the cell location information That would have required them, to, show a judge that they had, probable cause to, believe those records contained, evidence of a crime What they did. instead was obtain a. court order under the, federal Stored, Communications Act which, is easier, In. this case as in others prosecutors argue that the Supreme Court has long viewed information shared by a; consumer; as fair game without a warrant Even. before the stored records law was enacted the high court ruled that you lose your Fourth Amendment right to privacy when you share information, with. a third party like the phone company Fourth Amendment scholar Orin Kerr contends that the idea of tracking someone's movements in public is not new The police for instance tail a suspect or, check on his alibi Only when they search the suspect's. home or person do they have to. get a court-approved, warrant As to the general cell location data at issue in this case he	the question before the supreme court is whether the cops should have gotten a search warrant in order to obtain the cell location information. that would have required them to show a judge that they had probable cause to believe those records contained evidence of a crime. what they did instead was obtain a court order under the federal stored communications act, which is easier. in this case, as in others, prosecutors argue that the supreme court has long viewed information shared by a consumer as fair game without a warrant. even before the stored records law was enacted, the high court ruled that you lose your fourth amendment right to privacy when you share information with a third party like the phone company. fourth amendment scholar orin kerr contends that the idea of tracking someone's movements in public is not new. the police, for instance, tail a suspect or check on his alibi. only when they search the suspect's home or person do they have to get a court-approved warrant. as to the general cell location data at issue in this case, he maintains...
These records are basically the network equivalent of public observation that traditionally would not be protected.	these records are basically the network equivalent of public observation that traditionally would not be	These records are basically; the network equivalent of. public observation that traditionally would. not be,	these records are basically the network equivalent of public observation that traditionally would not be protected.
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Well, he has been looking into pay to play. And that's when record companies pay radio stations to play their music. And Sony and Warner have already reached settlements on those allegations.	well he. has been looking into pay to, play and, that's when record companies pay. radio stations to play their music and sony and warner have already reached settlements on those	Well he has been looking, into pay to play And that's when record companies pay radio stations to play their music And Sony and Warner have already reached settlements on those;	well, he has been looking into pay to play. and that's when record companies pay radio stations to play their music. and sony and warner have already reached settlements on those allegations.
And coming up today on "Marketplace" we're philosophizing about holiday celebrations. Do we invent them or how much of our self-worth is tied to what we get or don't get.	and coming up today on "marketplace" we're philosophizing about holiday celebrations do we invent them, or how much of our self-worth is tied to what we. get. or don't	And coming up today on "Marketplace" we're philosophizing about holiday celebrations Do we. invent. them or how much of our self-worth is. tied to what we get or, don't	and coming up today on "marketplace" we're philosophizing about holiday celebrations. do we invent them or how much of our self-worth is tied to what we get or don't get.
Janet Babin, of public radio's daily business show, "Marketplace," produced by American Public Media. Thanks, Janet.	janet babin of public radio's, daily; business. show "marketplace" produced by american public media thanks	Janet Babin of. public radio's daily business show "Marketplace" produced, by. American Public Media Thanks	janet babin, of public radio's daily business show, "marketplace," produced by american public media. thanks, janet.
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This is TALK OF THE NATION. I'm Neal Conan in Washington.	this is talk of the nation i'm neal conan in	This is TALK OF THE NATION I'm Neal Conan in	this is talk of the nation. i'm neal conan in washington.
In the summer of 2002, Kevin Davis sat down in the Cook County criminal courts building in Chicago and listened to a woman's dispassionate description of the precise manner in which she killed her baby daughter and disposed of the body. Startled by the horrific story, Davis wondered how anybody could possibly defend this woman, and he spent the next five years finding out.	in the, summer of 2002, kevin davis sat down in the cook county criminal courts building in chicago, and listened to a woman's dispassionate description of the precise manner in which she killed her baby daughter and disposed of the body startled by the horrific story davis wondered how anybody, could possibly defend this. woman and he spent the next, five years, finding	In the, summer of 2002, Kevin Davis sat down in the Cook County criminal courts building in Chicago, and listened. to a woman's dispassionate description of the precise manner in which she killed her baby daughter and disposed of the body Startled by the horrific story Davis wondered how anybody could possibly. defend this woman and. he spent the next five years. finding	in the summer of 2002, kevin davis sat down in the cook county criminal courts building in chicago and listened to a woman's dispassionate description of the precise manner in which she killed her baby daughter and disposed of the body. startled by the horrific story, davis wondered how anybody could possibly defend this woman, and he spent the next five years finding out.
He shadowed public defenders in Chicago and particular the elite murder task force, the public defenders who represent people accused of monstrous crimes with a deck(ph) and usually the evidence stacked against them. In his new book "Defending the Damned," he focuses on a formidable public defender named Marijane Placek and the case of Aloysius Oliver, a convicted felon accused of murdering a Chicago police officer.	he shadowed public defenders in chicago and particular the elite murder task force the public defenders who represent people accused of monstrous. crimes with a deck(ph) and usually the. evidence stacked against. them, in. his. new book "defending the damned" he focuses on a formidable public defender. named marijane placek and the case of aloysius oliver a convicted felon accused of, murdering a chicago police	He shadowed, public defenders in Chicago and particular the elite murder task force the public defenders who represent people accused, of monstrous crimes with a deck(ph) and usually, the evidence. stacked against them In. his new book "Defending the Damned" he focuses on a formidable public defender named Marijane Placek and the case of Aloysius Oliver a convicted felon accused of murdering a Chicago police	he shadowed public defenders in chicago and particular the elite murder task force, the public defenders who represent people accused of monstrous crimes with a deck(ph) and usually the evidence stacked against them. in his new book "defending the damned," he focuses on a formidable public defender named marijane placek and the case of aloysius oliver, a convicted felon accused of murdering a chicago police officer.
Later on in the program, the political junkie Ken Rudin joins us. If you have questions about Michael Bloomberg as a potential third party candidate, about Hillary Clinton's turn as Tony Soprano or other news of the week in electoral politics, send us an e-mail now, [email protected]. But first, if you have experience as a public defender or as one of their clients or as one of their courtroom opponents, our number is 800-989-8255, 800-989-TALK. E-mail [email protected]. You can also join the conversation on out blog, npr.org/blogofthenation.	later. on in the program the political, junkie ken rudin joins us if you have questions about; michael bloomberg as a potential third party candidate about. hillary clinton's turn as tony soprano or other news of the week in electoral politics send us, an e-mail now [email protected] but first if you have experience as, a public defender or as one of. their clients or as one of their courtroom opponents our number is 800-989-8255, 800-989-talk. e-mail [email protected] you can also join the conversation on out, blog	Later on in the program the political junkie Ken, Rudin joins, us If you have questions about Michael Bloomberg as; a. potential third party candidate about Hillary Clinton's turn as Tony Soprano or other news; of the. week in electoral politics; send us, an e-mail now [email protected] But first if you have experience as a public defender. or as one of. their clients or as one of their courtroom opponents our number is 800-989-8255, 800-989-TALK E-mail [email protected] You can also join the conversation on out blog	later on in the program, the political junkie ken rudin joins us. if you have questions about michael bloomberg as a potential third party candidate, about hillary clinton's turn as tony soprano or other news of the week in electoral politics, send us an e-mail now, [email protected]. but first, if you have experience as a public defender or as one of their clients or as one of their courtroom opponents, our number is 800-989-8255, 800-989-talk. e-mail [email protected]. you can also join the conversation on out blog, npr.org/blogofthenation.
Kevin Davis joins us from our bureau in Chicago. Nice to have you on the program today.	kevin davis joins. us from our bureau in chicago nice to have, you on the program	Kevin Davis joins us from our bureau in Chicago Nice to have you on. the program	kevin davis joins us from our bureau in chicago. nice to have you on the program today.
Thank you very much, Neal.	thank you very, much	Thank you very much	thank you very much, neal.
So tell us, after you got to know some members of that public defender's murder task force, what did you - what did they tell you when you asked what I gather, they called the cocktail party question, why do you defend these terrible people?	so tell us after you got to, know some members of that. public defender's murder task; force what did you - what did they, tell you when you asked, what i gather they called the cocktail party question, why do you defend these terrible	So tell us after you got to know some members of that public defender's murder task force what did you - what did they tell you when you; asked what I gather, they called the cocktail party question why do you, defend these terrible	so tell us, after you got to know some members of that public defender's murder task force, what did you - what did they tell you when you asked what i gather, they called the cocktail party question, why do you defend these terrible people?
You know, the simple answer is, everybody deserves a defense, and it's our constitutional right. But I think it goes far beyond that because these public defenders, everyday that they're in court, are really acting as watchdogs in our criminal justice system. A lot of them have a very high sense of competition, compassion. Some of them are do-gooders as - but really, their motivations are as different as they are. So there's not really one answer to the cocktail party question. So I really spent all that time trying to watch them and let their words and actions in court offer that insight.	you know, the simple answer is everybody deserves a defense and it's our, constitutional right, but i think it goes far beyond. that because these public defenders everyday. that they're in court are really acting as watchdogs in our criminal justice system a lot of them have a very high sense of, competition compassion some of them are do-gooders as - but really their motivations are as different as they are so. there's, not really one answer to the. cocktail party question so i really. spent all that time trying to watch them and let their, words and actions in court offer that	You know the. simple answer is everybody deserves a defense; and it's our constitutional, right But I think it, goes, far beyond that because these; public defenders everyday that they're in court are really acting as watchdogs in our criminal justice system A lot, of them have a very high sense of competition compassion Some of them are do-gooders as - but really their motivations are as different as they are So there's not really one answer to the cocktail party question So I, really spent all that time trying to watch. them and let their words and actions in court offer that	you know, the simple answer is, everybody deserves a defense, and it's our constitutional right. but i think it goes far beyond that because these public defenders, everyday that they're in court, are really acting as watchdogs in our criminal justice system. a lot of them have a very high sense of competition, compassion. some of them are do-gooders as - but really, their motivations are as different as they are. so there's not really one answer to the cocktail party question. so i really spent all that time trying to watch them and let their words and actions in court offer that insight.