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Is it? As far as I know, tear gas, especially in large concentrations, is very dangerous (even toxic) for small children. This makes the FBI's supposedconcern for the safety of the children seem rather hypocritical.
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talk.politics.guns
Is life a pass/fail course, and does God grade on a curve? I'm new here, and only vaguely religious, but I want to know what some of you people think. Specifically, are there an infinite number of Heavens, and a person goes to the one that he/she deserves? Or is it simply Heaven or nothing (Hell?) Also, are we "graded" by those around us, or has there always been some unchanging method? Is the person's childhood taken into account? I'm sure these must sound like over-simplifications to most of you, but I figure that you're the experts. -Quinn [Eschatology is an area on which Christians do not agree. I suspect that's because our primary source of information is prophets and visionaries, and their writings tend to be highly symbolic. However both Jesus' teachings in the Gospels and books such as the Revelation to John talk primarily about the difference between eternal life and eternal death. On a number of occasions Jesus does say things that imply some sort of differentiation, e.g. Lk 10:14 and a number of similar passages where Jesus says things like "even XXX will be better off than you in the judgement." Also, I Cor 3 talks about someone who gets into heaven, but by the skin of his teeth, as it were. But these passages are not normally interpreted as suggesting separate heavens, so much as differing levels of prestige or punishment in heaven or hell (and not all Christians would even go as far as that). The only Christian group I know of that believes in multiple heavens is the Mormons, and they are very far from mainstream Christianity (far enough that many of our readers would not call them Christian). Their ideas in this area involve specific Mormon revelations, in addition to the Bible and "Holy Tradition" of a more generic Christian sort. Note that many Christians will cringe at the very thought of associating grading with God. The whole point of Christ was to free us from the results of a test that we couldn't possibly pass. If you like test analogies, God grades on a very strict and unbending scale, but he also cheats -- he replaces our test papers with an exam that was prepared by the teacher, before actually doing the grading. Because some people end up in heaven and others in hell, it's easy to see why you'd be inclined to think of it as grading. While there are differences among branches of Christianity on details, I think we all agree that in one way or another, God cheats. I am personally very sceptical about anyone who claims to know exactly how far God's cheating extends. Will he accept people who don't explicitly acknowledge Christ, but somehow still follow him in their hearts? Many Christians believe that this is possible, at least in principle, but certainly not all do. Jesus provided us with a clear description of how to be saved, but it's not clear to me that he provided an exact description of how he's going to place the dividing line. Certainly he made it clear that we can't expect to know whether other individuals are saved or not.
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soc.religion.christian
I am posting this message for a friend of mine who does not have a computer account, if you have any questions please call Dan at (814)238-1804.
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misc.forsale
Greetings! Situation: I have a phone jack mounted on a wall. I don't know the number of the line. And I don't want to call up the operator to place a trace on it.
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sci.electronics
One of the local dealers has a used (7k miles) '93 Probe GT on the lot with a photocopy of a document taped to the window saying the dealership bought the car back from the previous owner because of "Engine noises", but that the Ford district rep had OK'ed the car saying those noises were "normal". I thought it was worth looking into (the car seems otherwise clean) and mentioned this to a co-worker, who proceeded to tell me a horror story about her son's '93 Probe GT, which had several problems, ending with engine noises which she said "was something with the heads", that Ford acknowledged the noise, said they were working on it, but didn't have a cure as of yet. Her son traded the car in (and I checked -- not the same car). So I have some evidence of a reoccuring problem with the V6 in the Probe GT's, and by extension with the Madza 626 and MX-6.
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rec.autos
[email protected] (Dave Davis) II. The deuterocanonicals are not in the canon because they are not quoted by the NT authors. That is not quite accurate. Otherwise we would have the book of Enoch in the canon (as Dave noted). One can say that the apocrypha are not quoted by Christ. III. The deuterocanonicals are not in the canon because they teach doctrines contrary to the (uncontroverted) parts of the canon. then I answer: These is a logically invalid *a priori*. Besides, we are talking about OT texts- which in many parts are superceded by the NT (in the Xtian view). Would not this same principle exclude _Ecclesiastes_? This principle cannot be consistently applied. I have to reject your argument here. The Spirit speaks with one voice, and he does not contradict himself. The ultimate test of canonicity is whether the words are inspired by the Spirit, i.e., God-breathed. It is a test which is more guided by faith than by reason or logic. The early church decided that the Apocrypha did not meet this test--even though some books such as The Wisdom of Ben Sirach have their uses. For example, the Lutheran hymn "Now Thank We All Our God" quotes a passage from this book. The deutero-canonical books were added much later in the church's history. They do not have the same spiritual quality as the rest of Scripture. I do not believe the church that added these books was guided by the Spirit in so doing. And that is where this sort of discussion ultimately ends.
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soc.religion.christian
Good point. The New Testament does not quote Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther, Ruth, Job, Ecclesiastes, or Song of Songs, just as it does not quote from the Deuterocanon. But if the non-quotation of the former does not disqualify them, neither does the non-quotation of the later. And the Wisodm of Solomon was quite clearly an influence on St. Paul, especially in the letter to the Romans (cf especially Romans 1.18-32 and Wisdom 13-14). [stuff deleted] True. Not all accepted them as Scripture, though niether were all the books of the New Testament so accepted, which puts to the lie the whole argument of the books being excluded because they were debated and not universally accepted. Hebrews, the Apocalypse, 2 Peter, Esther, and others were debated at various times, but eventually retained. As for the Codexes you mention, both Vaticanus and Sinaitcus include the Deuterocanon, bothe of the New and Old Testaments, and Vaticanus (I think) inlcudes 1 Clement, the Shepard of Hermas, and the Epistle of Baranabas. As for the Muratorian Canon, it deals with the New Testament only, though it is very valuable in its witness to those books. You're not wrong! It is a `tradition of men' to exlcude them, as I will explain below. "That nothing be read in the Church under the nmae of Divine Scripture, except the canonical Scriptures, and the canoncial Scriptures are - Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges, Ruth, Four books of Kingdoms [being 1&2 Samuel and 1&2 Kings], Two books of Paralpomenon [being 1&2 Chronicles], Job, the Psalter of David, the Five books of Solomon [being Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs, Wisdom of Solomon, and [misatributed to him] the Wisdom of Jesus son of Sirach], The books of the Twelve (Minor) Prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah [being Jeremiah, the Lamentations, Baruch, and the Letter, all of which were formerly counted as one], Ezekiel, Daniel, Tobit, Judith, Esther, Two books of Ezra [being Ezra and Nehemiah], Two books of Maccabees. And of the New Testament: Four books of the Gospel, One book of the Acts of the Apostles, Thirteen letters of Paul the Apostle, One Letter of the same to the Hebrews, two of Peter the Apostle, Three of John, One of the Apostle Jude, One of the Apostle James, One book of the Apocalypse of John." -Council of Hippo, Statute 36, (393 AD) This same list was promulgated again at the Third Council of Carthage (397 AD), and at the Sixth Council of Carthage (419 AD) - at which council the same list was enumerated with the words "Because we have recieved from the Fathers that these are the books to be read in the Church." Which ought to quiet those who assert "in the name of Holy Scripture we do understand those books of whose authority there was never any doubt in the Church," as the Episcopal Church does in removing the Deuterocanon from the realm of Scripture. (Though the Episcopalians hold them in high regard and read them in the Church, they are not counted as Scripture by them, and may not be used to prove dogma. The Lutherans hold out similarly.) Earlier mention of the so-called Apocrypha as divine scripture can also be found, and below I inlcude only a portion of the quotes calling it divine scripture that could be found among the writings of the Fathers. "And this is the reason why the Law of the old Testament is reckoned as consisting of twenty-two books: so that they may correspond to the number of letters [in the Hebrew alphabet].... It is to be noted also that by adding to these Tobias and Judith, there are twenty-four books, corresponding to the number of letters used by the Greeks." -St. Hillary of Poitiers, "Commentaries on the Psalms," prologue, 15 (365 AD) "The twenty-two books according to the Hebrews are .... Jeremiah, with Lamentations and the Letter, reckoned as one .... and [also] there is Maccabees." -Origen, "Commentaries on the Psalms," Psalm 1 (245 AD) "Divine Scripture, addressing itself to those who love themselves and to the boastful .... says most excellently [Baruch 3.16-19 follows]." -St. Clement of Alexandria, "The Instuctor of Children," 2, 3, 36, 3, (203 AD) "....I learned accurately the books of the Old Testament ... Proverbs of Solomon, and also Wisdom ..." -St. Melito of Sardes, fragment found in Eusebius' "History of the Church," and dating from crica 177 AD, Book 4, 26, 14 "It is likewise decreed: Now, indeed, we must treat of the divine Scriptures: what the universal Catholic Church accepts and what she must shun. The list of the Old Testament .... Wisdom, one book; Ecclesiasticus, one book .... Tobit, one book .... Judith, one book; of Maccabees, two books." -St. Damasus I, Pope, "The Decree of Damsus," section 2 (382 AD)
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soc.religion.christian
> MOTOROLA EXPO VHF 2WATT/2CHAN. HT--------[new]-------$1200.00 > Would like $400, or BEST OFFER!!! I'm sure that the Motorola is worth it, but this kind of thing has always mystified me. $400 is the price of very good, new dual-band, fully synthasized HT. Yes, yes, I know Motorola HTs are bullet-proof, unbreakable, plutonium-based indestructable -- you can drive a tank over them and they'll still work. But just how often does that come up? Why are hams willing (and they *are*) to spend the price of a synthaszied dual-bander for a 2-channel xtal rig??? Note: this is not a flame; as I said, I'm sure this is a good deal for this rig. I'm just amazed that it *is* a good deal. I would have guessed that a 2 channel xtal rig could never be worth as much as a dual- bander to a ham, no matter how durable. Just shows you how wrong *I* can be. Mike, N4PDY
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misc.forsale
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness." Declaration of Independence 4 July 1776
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talk.politics.guns
Deion Sanders hit a home run in his only AB today. Nixon was 1 for 4. Infield single. Deion's batting over .400 Nixon: around .200. Whom would YOU start? Wise up, Bobby. See y'all at the ballyard Go Braves Chop Chop Michael Mule'
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rec.sport.baseball
Is it possible to use WinQVT/Net on a machine that uses NDIS to connect to a Token Ring ? I tried it with older versions (< 3.2) but got an invalid packet class error or something the like... Regards,
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comp.os.ms-windows.misc
I get it. One organization wants to abolish age of consent laws, whereas in contrast the other wants to abolish age of consent laws. This makes it respectable to belong to one organization, but not the other.
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talk.politics.misc
Mexico City, Bogota, La Paz? --- An unconventional remedy that you might try for altitude sickness in the Andes is chewing coca leaves or taking teas made from coca leaves. You might notice that many of the natives have wads in their mouths... the tea can be obtained in S. American pharmacies. This remedy alleviates some of the lightheadedness and dizziness - but don't try to jog with it. I've tried this when travelling and hiking in Peru and Ecuador. The amount of cocaine you would ingest are too minute to cause any highs...
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sci.med
:Of course, one again faces the question of how one circumscribes government :power (and keeps it circumscribed) in a complex society when it is in the :interest of neither capitalists nor consumers to refrain from using :government power for their own ends. But apart from that little :conundrum... Without having a complete answer to this question, I should think it obvious that the first step should be to convince people this would be a desirable result. There are still quite a lot of people who feel that the command economies of eastern Europe failed due to corruption rather than essential weaknesses of caommand economies, and you still have a majority in this nation that favors keeping unenforced and unenforcible laws on the books in order to "send a signal". :It would seem that a society with a "failed" government would be an ideal :setting for libertarian ideals to be implemented. Now why do you suppose :that never seems to occur?... I fail to see why you should feel this way in the first place. Constant combat isn't particularly conducive to intellectual theorizing. Also, they tend to get invaded before they can come to anything like a stable society anyway. :I wouldn't call it "vague." I'd call it elastic. All "regulation" is :not necessarily the same. By opposing all government regulation, some :libertarians treat every system from a command economy to those that :regulate relatively free markets as identical. That's one reason :many of the rest of us find their analysis to be simplistic. Umm, is there any distinction between "vague" and "elastic" in this context aside from one having a more positive connotation than the other? At any rate, we've been through all this before. :Steve Hendricks | DOMAIN: [email protected] :"One thing about data, it sure does cut| UUCP: ...!uunet!isc-br!thor!steveh : the bulls**t." - R. Hofferbert | Ma Bell: 509 838-8826 Incidentally, this is a libertarian newsgroup, you can get away with saying, "bullshit" here. You're welcome,
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talk.politics.misc
Here is some material by Michael Davies on the subject of schism in general and Archishop Lefebvre in particular. He wrote it around 1990. The first part of the two-part article was on the scandalous activities of Archbishop Weakland (in this country), but I cut all that. And I pared down the rest to what was relevant. Joe Buehler ... Schism and Disobedience According to St. Thomas Aquinas, schism consists primarily in a refusal of submission to the Pope or communion with the members of the Church united to him. On first sight it would appear that, whatever the subjective motivation of the Archbishop, as discussed above, he must be in a state of objective schism as he has refused to submit to the Pope on a very grave matter involving his supreme power of jurisdiction. However, standard Catholic textbooks of theology make it clear that while all schisms involve disobedience not all acts of disobedience are schismatic. If this were so, as was noted at the beginning of this article, it would mean that the number of American bishops who are not schismatic would not reach double figures. The distinction between disobedience and schism is made very clear in the article on schism in the very authoritative Dictionnaire de Theologie Catholique. The article is by Father Yves Congar who is certainly no friend of Archbishop Lefebvre. He explains that schism and disobedience are so similar that they are often confused. Father Congar writes that schism involves a refusal to accept the existence of legitimate authority in the Church, for example, Luther's rejection of the papacy. Father Congar explains that the refusal to accept a decision of legitimate authority in a particular instance does not constitute schism but disobedience. The Catholic Encyclopedia explains that for a Catholic to be truly schismatic he would have to intend "to sever himself from the Church as far as in him lies." It adds that "not every disobedience is schism; in order to possess this character it must include besides the transgression of the command of the superiors, a denial of their divine right to command."Not only does Mgr. Lefebvre not deny the divine right of the Pope to command, but he affirms repeatedly his recognition of the Pope's authority and his intention of never breaking away from Rome. The Archbishop made his attitude clear in the July/August 1989 issue of 30 Days: "We pray for the Pope every day. Nothing has changed with the consecrations last June 30. We are not sedevacantists. We recognize in John Paul II the legitimate Pope of the Catholic Church. We don't even say that he is a heretical Pope. We only say that his Modernist actions favor heresy." ... Intrinsically Schismatic? The principal argument used by those claiming that Mgr. Lefebvre is in schism is that the consecration of a bishop without a papal mandate is an intrinsically schismatic act. A bishop who carries out such a consecration, it is claimed, becomes ipso facto a schismatic. This is not true. If such a consecration is an intrinsically schismatic act it would always have involved the penalty of excommunication. In the 1917 Code of Canon Law the offence was punished only by suspension (see Canon 2370 of the 1917 Code). Pope Pius XII had raised the penalty to excommunication as a response to the establishment of a schismatic church in China. The consecration of these illicit Chinese bishops differed radically from the consecrations carried out by Mgr. Lefebvre as the professed intention was to repudiate the authority of the Pope, that is, to deny that he has the right to govern the Church, and the illicitly consecrated Chinese bishops were given a mandate to exercise an apostolic mission. Neither Archbishop Lefebvre nor any of the bishops he has consecrated claim that they have powers of jurisdiction. They have been consecrated solely for the purpose of ensuring the survival of the Society by carrying out ordinations and also to perform confirmations. I do not wish to minimize in any way the gravity of the step take by Mgr. Lefebvre. The consecration of bishops without a papal mandate is far more serious matter than the ordination of priests as it involves a refusal in practice of the primacy or jurisdiction belonging by divine right to the Roman Pontiff. But the Archbishop could argue that the crisis afflicting the Church could not be more grave, and that grave measures were needed in response. It appears to be taken for granted by most of the Archbishop's critics that he was excommunicated for the offense of schism, and the Vatican has certainly been guilty of fostering this impression. There is not so much as a modicum of truth in this allegation. The New Code of Canon Law includes a section beginning with Canon 1364 entitled "Penalties for Specific Offenses" (De Poenis in Singula Dicta). The first part deals with "Offenses against Religion and the Unity of the Church" (De Delictis contra Religionem et Ecclesiae Unitatem). Canon 1364 deals with the offense of schism which is, evidently, together with apostasy and heresy, one of the three fundamental offenses against the unity of the Church. But the Archbishop was not excommunicated under the terms of this canon or, indeed, under any canon involving an offense against religion or the unity of the church. The canon cited in his excommunication comes from the third section of "Penalties for Specific Offenses" which is entitled "Usurpation of Ecclesial Functions and Offenses in their Exercise" (De Munerum Ecclesiasticorum Usurpatione Degue Delictis iniis Exercendis). The canon in question is Canon 1382, which reads: "A bishop who consecrates someone bishop and the person who receives such a consecration from a bishop without a pontifical mandate incur an automatic (latae sententiae) excommunication reserved to the Holy See." The scandalous attempts to smear Archbishop Lefebvre with the offense of schism are, then, contrary to both truth and charity. A comparable smear under civil as opposed to ecclesiastical law would certainly justify legal action for libel involving massive damages. An accurate parallel would be to state that a man convicted of manslaughter had been convicted of first degree murder. I must stress that what I have written here is not the dubious opinion of laymen unversed in the intricacies of Canon Law. Canon lawyers without the least shred of sympathy for Mgr. Lefebvre have repudiated the charge of schism made against him as totally untenable. Father Patrick Yaldrini, Dean of the Faculty of Canon Law of the Institut Catholique in Paris noted in the 4 July 1988 issue of Valeurs actuelles that, as I have just explained, Mgr. Lefebvre was not excommunicated for schism but for the usurpation of an ecclesiastical function. He added that it is not the consecration of a bishop which constitutes schism but the conferral of an apostolic mission upon the illicitly consecrated bishop. It is this usurpation of the powers of the sovereign pontiff which proves the intention of establishing a parallel Church. Cardinal Rosalio Lara, President of the Pontifical Commission for the Authentic Interpretation of Canon Law, commented on the consecrations in the 10 July 1988 issue of la Repubblica. It would be hard to The act of consecrating a bishop (without a papal mandate) is not in itself a schismatic act. In fact, the Code that deals with offenses is divided into two sections. One deals with offenses against religion and the unity of the Church, and these are apostasy, schism, and heresy. Consecrating a bishop with a pontifical mandate is, on the contrary, an offense against the exercise of a specific ministry. For example, in the case of the consecrations carried out by the Vietnamese Archbishop Ngo Dinh Thuc in 1976 and 1983, although the Archbishop was excommunicated he was not considered to have committed a schismatic act because there was no intention of a breach with the Church. .... It is not simply unjust but ludicrous to suggest that in consecrating bishops without a papal mandate Archbishop Lefebvre had the least intent of establishing a schismatic church. He is not a schismatic and will never be a schismatic. The Archbishop considers correctly that the the Church is undergoing its worst crisis since the Arian heresy, and that for the good of the Church it was necessary for him to consecrate the four bishops to ensure the future of his Society. Canon Law provides for just such a situation, and even if one believes that the future of the Society could have been guaranteed without these consecrations, the fact that the Archbishop believed sincerely that it could not means, as Canon Law states clearly, that he has not incurred excommunication. Furthermore, while the Vatican allows such prelates as Archbishop Weakland to undermine the Faith with impunity it cannot expect Catholics to pay the least attention to its sanctions against a great and orthodox Archbishop whose entire life has been devoted to the service of the Church and the salvation of souls. Dr. Eric M. de Saventhem, President of the International Una Voce Association, is one of the best informed laymen in the Church, and he knows the Archbishop intimately. Dr. de Saventhem, like myself, has no greater desire than to see a reconciliation between Mgr. Lefebvre and the Holy See during the Archbishop's lifetime. A quotation from a statement by Dr. de Saventhem which was published in the 15 February 1989 Remnant merits careful study:
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soc.religion.christian
The test isn't whether GM knew--otherwise that would reward GM for its stupidity. The test is whether GM reasonably should have known of their existence. It works both ways--if GM had won the trial, and the plaintiff turned up two witnesses who came forward after the first trial who should have been located beforehand, too bad, so sad--no new trial. Like Tim said, you don't get a new civil trial because you screwed up the first time around. Unlike the criminal justice system, repose is much more important in the civil justice system.
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talk.politics.misc
In the Bible, there are a lot of instances where God speaks to people, where a person just "came to know" some piece of information, where a person walks off into the desert for "40 days", etc. With all of God's power He certainly can do whatever He wants when He wants it. The Bible "ends" with the book of Revelations. But does God's reign end there ? No. So who can say for sure that God's messages are either no longer happening or still happening ? I can now hear the clamor for proof. 8-) With the cold response I've gotten from the past from this group, it's very hard to get the point across. I'll only go over the physical stuff so that skeptics can look at documents stored somewhere. I've cited the uncorrupted bodies of saints before. They're still there. 8-) The apparitions at Fatima, Portugal culminated in a miracle specifically granted to show God's existence. That was the spinning/descending of the sun. It was seen in several countries. That event is "approved" by the Pope. Currently, images of Mary in Japan, Korea, Yugoslavia, Philippines, Africa are showing tears (natural or blood). These are still under investigation by the Church. But realize that investigations take decades to finish. And if the message is Christ will come in ten days, that's a bit too late, isn't it 8-). Other events under investigation are inner locutions ("coming to know"), stigmata (the person exhibits Christ's wounds. And they don't heal. And doctor's don't know why). Non-believers are welcome to pore through documents, I'm sure. This stuff is not like Koresh. Or Oral Roberts (give me $5M or God will call me home). It's free. Find out why they're happening (as we ourselves are studying why). If anybody can figure this out, tell us ! You can be of any religion. If you have the resources, go to one of the countries I mentioned. These are not "members only" events. God and Mary invites everybody. So in conclusion (finally) ... We RC's believe in the modern day manifestations of God and Mary. We are scared to death sometimes although we're told not to. There are more proofs and events. And that is why "not everything is in the Bible". Although in a lot of the apparitions, we are told to read the Bible. As far as the Protestant vs. Catholics issue is concerned... In the end, God's churches will unite. I'm not sure how. I have some idea. But the point is we shouldn't worry about the "versus" part. Just do God's work. That's all that matters. Unity will come. BTW, I'm just a plain person. I'm not the Pope's spokesperson. But I am RC. --
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soc.religion.christian
Has anyone had problems with Ami Pro 3.0 after running PCTools (v7.1) compress? I have not corrupted data due to having caches other than PC-Cache running, so that is not it. The first time I try to run Ami Pro after loading windows, it loads, but causes (I think it was a) segmentation fault in AMIPRO.EXE right before it finishes, with all times after that only managing to get to the logo box that first pops up when it begins loading, and then causes a general protection fault in module AMIPROUI.DLL at 0002:1147. I have not been able to fix this problem except by reinstalling Ami Pro. This has happened twice, with both times being after having ran compress on my hard drive. BTW, I am not running stacker or any other disk compression programs, and if you don't already know, PCTools compress is actually a defragger, despite it's name. My system is a 386-40MHz, with 16MB of RAM and a NEC (OEM) hard drive, etc, but that shouldn't make a difference. PLEASE email me as I can't keep up with the newsgroup, and it will cut down on net traffic anyways. Thanks. -Derek
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comp.os.ms-windows.misc
A while back I asked for help in defending a traffic ticket I received. In short: The ticket was for not stopping at a stop sign. Given the conditions I could not stop in time and decided instead of sliding right through the intersection, I would complete my right-turn and avoid a possible accident. A police cruiser happened to be approaching the intersection from my left and gave me the ticket. The officer said "The only reason that you even slowed down in the first place was that you saw me approaching, otherwise you would have bombed right through" I would like to thank all those who responded favorably to my request for help. To all of those who told me to bite the bullet and pay the fine: PHGHGHGHGH.. The judge sided with me and decided that in this case "Not stopping" was the safest thing to do and found me NOT GUILTY. The officer's statement and my account of the conditions at the time (very slippery, backed by newpaper weather conditions) were the factors what made the judge decide on his verdict. Moral: If you have never been to court before and you think you have a case, go for it. It is a very interesting process, and it is there for your benefit. Exercise your rights. Trev
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rec.autos
Well, the first 2 are easy. You need the math library. Try adding -lm after -lX11. Don't know if that's the whole problem but it's a start.
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comp.windows.x
dale> I found an oddity with our SGI Indigo (MIPS R3000 chip). dale> When xlock +nolock is running, and I am working remotely dale> or in batch (at) mode, the runtime of my programs (as timed dale> by using clock() in the code itself) is ~25% slower than if dale> xlock is NOT running. No other processes seem to affect my dale> runtimes, yet this is very consistent! Unless you run `xlock -mode blank`, xlock consumes CPU time generating the nice animated display. The code you are running is competing with xlock for the CPU. If you run top (via a remote login), you can really see what is going on. =-=-=
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comp.windows.x
Here is a disturbing thought. Now, we no longer live in the days of big filing cabinets. We live in the electronic age. I asked myself, how big could the escrow database get? How hard might it be to steal the whole thing, particularly were I an NSA official operating with the tacit permission of the escrow houses? (We can pretend that such will not happen, but thats naive.) Well, lets see. Ten bytes of each escrow half. Lets asume ten bytes of serial number -- in fact, I believe the serial number is smaller, but this is an order of magnitude calculation. We assume 250*10^6 as the population, and that each person has a key. I get five gigabytes for each of the two escrow databases. Fits conveniently on a single very valuable Exabyte tape. This can only get easier with time, but who cares -- I can already hold all the clipper keys in the country in my pocket on two 8mm tapes. Admittely, they will think of safeguards. They won't put the whole database on one disk, prehaps. Maybe they will throw stumbling blocks in the way. This changes nothing -- they keys will be needed every day by hundreds if not thousands of law enforcement types, so convenience will dictate that the system permit quick electronic retrieval. At some point, with or without collusion by the agencies, those exabyte tapes are going to get cut. Dorothy Denning and David Sternlight will doubtless claim this can't happen -- but we know that "can't" is a prayer, not a word that in this instance connotes realism. With two exabyte tapes in your pocket, you would hold the keys for every person's conversations in the country in your hands. Yeah, you need the "master key" two -- but thats just ten bytes of information that have to be stored an awful lot of places. Come to think of it, even if the NSA getting a copy of the database isn't a threat to you because unlike me you have no contraversial political views, consider foreign intelligence services. You know, the ones that David Sternlight wants to protect us from because of the evil industrial espionage that they do. The French apparently do have a big spying operation in friendly countries to get industrial secrets, so he isn't being completely irrational here (although why our companies couldn't use cryptosystems without back doors is left unexplained by those that point out this threat.) Presumably, foreign intelligence services can get moles into the NSA and other agencies. We have proof by example of this: its happened many times. Presumably, someday they will get their hands on some fraction of the keys. You can't avoid that sort of thing. Don't pretend that no one unauthorized will ever get their hands on the escrow databases. We crypto types are all taught something very important at the beginning of intro to cryptography -- security must depend on the easily changed key that you pick to run your system, and not on a secret. The escrow databases aren't the sorts of secrets that our teachers told us about, but they are the sort of big secrets they would lump into this category. Imagine trying to replace 100 million Clipper chips. I cannot believe that the NSA or whomever it is thats doing this doesn't realize all this already. They are too smart. There are too many of them who have made their bones in the real world. I suspect that they know precisely what they are doing -- and that what they are doing is giving us the appearance of safety so that they can continue to surveil in spite of the growth of strong cryptography. I suspect that they realize that they can't put things off forever, but they can try to delay things as long as possible. Who knows. Maybe even some of the higher ups, the inevitable bureaucratic types that rise in any organization, really do believe that this scheme might give people some security, even as their subordinates in Fort Meade wring their hands over the foolishness of it all. -- Perry Metzger [email protected]
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sci.crypt
The Phillies salvaged their weekend series against the Chicago Cubs by beating them 11-10 in a wild one at Wrigley Field Sunday afternoon. It was the Phils only win in the three game series, and was the first time the Phillies have lost a series in the young season. The Phils jumped to a 6-0 lead in the game thanks to 2 John Kruk 2-run homers and two Wes Chamberlain homers. However Danny Jackson, and the Phillies middle relief was unable to hold the lead. Mitch Williams entered the game with the Phillies leading 8-4, however Candy Maldonado hit a ninth inning homerun to tie it. In the 11th, Dave Hollins hit a three-run shot, his first of the year to push the Phils ahead to stay. However, in a shaky bottom of the 11th the Cubs scored 2 runs and had the tying runner on base when the Cubs pinch hit Randy Myers for Bob Scanlan (they were out of position players) and Myers bunted into a double play to end the game.
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rec.sport.baseball
RIX's files with the extension .sci and .scf are just a RAW file with a 256 color palette. The first 10 bytes is a kind of header, with the name RIX among 7bytes unknown stuff. The you have 768 bytes of palette info (3*256 for the colors RGB) and then you have the picture in raw format. If you dont know how to make a viewer of of this description you can get VPIC it is able to read the files!
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comp.graphics
[email protected] (James A. Donald) writes... Hello? What the Sloan decision means is that the tax protestors were wrong. Demonstrate, please! The rules of procedure make this very unlikely. FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES ONLY Which makes it legally unsound. If I were representing Mr. Teel, I'd try a procedural approach if I could find one, or recommend he plea-bargain. He's setting himself up to be in hot water. Daniel Reitman HOW NOT TO WRITE A DEED One case involved the construction of a conveyance to grantees "jointly, as tenants in common, with equal rights and interest in said land, and to the survivor thereof, in fee simple. . . . To Have and to Hold the same unto the said parties hereto, equally, jointly, as tenants in common, with equal rights and interest for the period or term of their lives, and to the survivor thereof at the death of the other."
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talk.politics.misc
I was in the great storm.....my Mazda MPV was damaged so bad they are going to replace the top, doors and hood. It is Black so they will repaint the entire vehicle...estimated cost around $7000 and repair time approx. 3 to 4 weeks.
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rec.autos
Rogers is the "one-batter lefty" in the bullpen. Dusty has also said he trusts Rogers to get the final out in a ballgame where Beck is unavailable, so you might see a couple of saves for Kevin. Then again, if any of the regular rotation falters, Rogers is a possible candidate to start, though this would appear less likely now that Dave Burba did well in an emergency start.
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rec.sport.baseball
(MODERATOR: THIS IS A REPLACEMENT FOR AN EARLIER, MORE CLUMSILY WORDED SUBMISSION ON THE SAME TOPIC WHICH I SUBMITTED A FEW MINUTES AGO.) I think we need to distinguish etymology from meaning. Regardless of how the word 'Easter' *originated*, the fact is that it does not *now* mean anything to Christians other than 'the feast day of the Resurrection of Jesus Christ'. The meaning of a word is _only_ what people understand it to mean. And the same goes for other cultural practices. The festival of Easter may possibly have some historical association with some pagan festival, but *today* there are, as far as I know, no Christians who *intend* to honor any kind of "pagan goddess" by celebrating Easter. It is nonsense to say "this word (or this practice) 'really' means so- and-so even though nobody realizes it." Words and practices don't mean things, people do. (This is basic semantics; I'm a linguist; they pay me to think about things like this.) -- :- Michael A. Covington, Associate Research Scientist : ***** :- Artificial Intelligence Programs [email protected] : ********* :- The University of Georgia phone 706 542-0358 : * * * :- Athens, Georgia 30602-7415 U.S.A. amateur radio N4TMI : ** *** ** <><
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soc.religion.christian
Of course if this question was asked in a group dealing with economics, the answer would be that the cause of war was economic. My observations over the past 30 years (and not withstanding a little history reading beside) is that while religious differences do play a part in many of the conflicts, so does (unfortunately) race, economics and any other items that identify one group of men as being different from another. If we want to couch the cause of conflict in Christian terms, I would put it while Christ died for our sins, we are yet sinners. While some individuals assume "Christlike" natures, most of us do not even come close. I realize that in many ways this is a trite answer, but I guess that it is my way of rationalizing man's constant (or so it seems) conflict. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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soc.religion.christian
People are seeming to be less concerned about Kariya's size as he leads teams to championships (World Junior and US College) and collects awards...everyone is watching with interest as to how he will perform on left wing with Eric Lindros and Mark Recchi at the world championships. 4 months of go...chances were not very good that he would go in the top five...now it has become probable...a great world championship could put him in the top 3 with Daigle and Pronger.
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rec.sport.hockey
I can't believe this, Howe has an ERA in the 80's He is improving!!!
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rec.sport.baseball
The Continental may have been the first "modern era" auto to mount the spare on the rear of the car but it was hardly the first car to sport one. Various mounting techniques for rear mounting the spare were quite common in early automobiles, both US and Foreign.
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rec.autos
:I'm not sure why you don't consider it an option. No one suggests that :such analysis should be left to "regulators." In fact, the "re-inventing :government" movement provides just such a cost/benefit approach to the :analysis of public spending. Libertarians would do well to learn more :about it. Okay, let me try to explain this. When one votes for such a creature as a Senator or, worse yet, a President, one votes not for specific policies but for a general package which must cover all issues for 4 or 6 years. As such, one's influence is highly diluted. I might add that, even if one were free to vote on individual regulations, the vast amount of time required for considering a particular regulation, combined with the very small chance of one's vote making a difference, would make it unreasonable to expect the voter to make an intelligent decision with respect to specific regulations. :Sorry, but it strikes me that it is the only "feasible" approach. What is :not feasible is a wholesale attack on all government regulation and :licensing that treats cutting hair and practicing medicine as equivalent :tasks. I'm not sure what you mean by "feasible" in this case. Do you mean that [] are impossible in priciple, or merely that it would be undesirable in fact? :Actually, the only areas of public spending above that strike me as :generating substantial support among libertarians are police and defense. 2 of the four you saw fit to mention, and education of minors is always another possibility, since minors are generally considered not to be responsible to make their own decisions as adults are. :(It is an interesting aside that as committed as libertarians claim to :be to a principle of non-coercion, the only areas of public spending :that they frequently support involve hiring people with guns....hmmm...) You say this as if it were surprising, yet in fact a necessary consequence of libertarian philosophy. All non-coersive functions should be dealt with privately, therefore it follows that the only functions remaining to the state are the coersive ones. :Perhaps you have. May I suggest that you consider that revolutionaries :frequently generate support by acting as protectors of "geezers," :mothers and children. Governments that ignore such people on the grounds :that "we don't have much to fear" from them do so at their own peril. Much more likely it's drunken teenagers. The groups in questionare more likely to be worse off during and after a revolution than before. In the unlikely event that you missed my earlier sarcasm, let me say this directly: The idea that such programs as Social Security or AFDC should be considered "defense" (an idea which has been advanced in ths and other newsgroups) is so absurd a lie as to be unworthy of consideration. Do you seriously dispute this? I don't want to seem patronizing, but you still seem to be laboring under the delusion that under a socialized economic system it is reasonably intelligent and honest persons (like yourself) who make the decisions. I feel any third party added to a transaction is every bit as likely to be ignorant or corrupt as the buyer or seller. I don't expect you to agree with me, but you explain why you feel I'm wrong?
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talk.politics.misc
<In article <[email protected]<, [email protected] (Henling, Lawrence M.) writes... <<Atheism (Greek 'a' not + 'theos' god) Belief that there is no god. <<Agnosticism (Greek 'a' not + ~ 'gnostein ?' know) Belief that it is << not possible to determine if there is a god. <No. Agnosticism as you have here defined it is a positive belief--a <belief that it is not possible to determine the existence of any gods. <That's a belief I'm inclined to reject. You have also defined atheism <here as a positive belief--that there is no god. A fairly large number <of atheists on alt.atheism reject this definition, instead holding that <atheism is simply the absence of belief in a god. Michael Martin, in <_Atheism: A Philosophical Justification_, distinguishes strong atheism My mistake. I will have to get a newer dictionary and read the follow up line.
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alt.atheism
Does anyone know what the vfintd.386 device is used for in windows 3.1? It's under the [386enh] section as device=c:\dos\vfintd.386 After upgrading to dos 6 on several machines (different types), some include it, some don't. Any ideas?
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comp.os.ms-windows.misc
I guess that's why scientists probably aren't mentioned either. Or stock brokers. Or television repairmen. It's precious to know just how deep the brainwashing from childhood ( that it takes to progress a religion ) cleans away a very substantial part of the reasoning neurons. But don't mind me; I don't exist.
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alt.atheism
You must be _incredibly_ bored. Have you considered reading the phone book?
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rec.autos
Use a GC with the subwindow_mode attribute set to IncludeInferiors. The default is ClipByChildren. However, beware if any of the children are of a different depth to the parent; the semantics of this are undefined by the protocol.
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comp.windows.x
Mark Gregory Foster writes (concerning 1 Corinthians 16:2): > The idea was introduced to me once that the reason Paul wanted > the Corinthians to lay aside money for the collection on the > first day of the week was that this was when they received their > weekly wages. But the ancient Romans did not observe a seven-day week. Unless a man was working for a Jewish employer, he is unlikely to have been paid on the first day of a seven-day week. Nor would a Jewish employer have kept his wages over the week-end (see Lev 19:13; Dt 24:15).
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soc.religion.christian
It's the "opening-game effect" maybe. Pros arrive late, nervousness for rookie WC players, and problems to get the lines clicking may make things hard to get it going against these "worse" nations. I'd guess that the better team you face in the opening game, the better it is, since the chances of an upset are greater then. Some other reasons why the "worse" teams are so tough to beat was presented by Hans "Virus" Lindberg (former coach in Switzerland). 1) The "worse" teams (referring to France, Switzerland, Austria, Italy etc) have now usually world class goalies. 2) Their defensive play have become much more disciplined, they take much less unnecessary penalties. 3) They use four lines which makes it harder to make them "run out of gas." 4) The ice quality in the German WC rinks is poor. Another weird thing was that the Czechs played entertaining hockey.. err.. just kidding, David. Alex? That's a new name for me ;) OK, I forgot the Czech roster at home yesterday, but now I have it. I don't know the teams for all players, so I would appreciate if you guys could fill in the blanks for me (especially I think some of these players play in Finland). The Czech Republic ------------------ Goaltenders: 1. Petr Briza (Finland somewhere, right?) 2. Roman Turek Motor C. Budejovice Defense: 3. Leo Gudas ? 4. Milos Holan TJ Vitkovice 5. Drahomir Kadlec ? 6. Bedrich Scerban Brynas, Sweden 7. Antonin Stavjana HV 71, Sweden 8. Miroslav Horava MoDo, Sweden 9. Ales Flasar TJ Vitkovice Forwards: 10. Petr Rosol ? 12. Kamil Kastak HV 71, Sweden 13. Richard Zemlicka ? 14. Jiri Kucera ? 16. Jan Caloun HC Litvinov 18. Petr Hrbek ? 19. Tomas Kapusta ? 20. Otakar Janecky (Finland?) 21. Roman Horak Motor C. Budejovice 22. Martin Hostak MoDo, Sweden 24. Radek Toupal ? 26. Jiri Dolezal ? Staffan
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rec.sport.hockey
Probably not--he's just singing someone else's opera. He's good, too; perhaps he should get "The Best Supporting Singer..." I can give you a Q/A account that is well documented (just go back and reread some of the articles that appeared after this "joke"): Q: How many antisemites does it take to come up with another anti-Israeli provocation on the net? A: Just one. He'll fabricate a lie, and many more will applaud I would much prefer if Mr. Steel would refrain from this kind of jokes in the future. They're not just offensive. They also have a very negative effect on the state of things between Jews and Arabs. So thanks for nothing, clown!
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talk.politics.mideast
Does your Stealth 24 have a row of DIP switches on the back plane? If so, you have the older Revision A board and the winmark results are absolutely normal. The later Revision B board benchmarks at 13 to 15 million winmarks (at least mine does in 486DX-50 toy).
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comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
-=> Quoting Cire Y. Trehguad to All <=- : >And, while we are on the subject, has a captain ever been traded, : >resigned, or been striped of his title during the season? Any other : >team captain trivia would be appreciated. CYT> ; CYT> : Wasn't Ron Francis captain of the Whalers when he was traded to CYT> : Pittsburgh? CYT> And Rick Tochett was the captain of the Flyers when traded to the Pens CYT> recently... CYT> Caleb CYT> And let us not forget that the New Jersey Devils traded CYT> captain Kirk Muller for Stephen Richer and Chorske CYT> Man I hated that trade! Well as for team captains being traded in there first year in the NHL the Edmonton Oilers traded their captain Ron Chiperfield to the Quebec Nordique right at the trading deadline for Goaltender Ron Lowe In their second year of existence The Edmonton Oilers again right at the trade deadline traded their captain, this time B.J. McDonald to the Vancouver Canucks along with the rights to winger Ken Berry for Garry Lariviere and the rights to Lars Gunner Petterson as for more captain trivia, the next Edmonton captain was Lee Fogilin who was later traded to the Buffalo Sabres, after him was Wayne Gretzky who was traded to L A, then came Kevin Low who only this year was traded to the N Y Rangers so that every captain the Edmonton Oilers have had has been traded. The present captain is Craig McTavish and we'll just have to wait and see. well talk to you later Steve
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comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Last year produced: 1980. Yes, there are still alot of MGBs out there. The earlier cars (pre 74-1/2) are usually more desirable due to certain things that went with having chrome bumpers (ride height, generally more power). The older cars are appreciating... slowly. The newer ones seem to be at a stable level at the moment. $6 to $8k would require extremely good condition and low miles. If the car is in good shape and regular maintenance is kept up on it, the car should last for a long time. There are still plenty of parts sources ouththere. The MGB is a great, fun little car. If she is keeping it solely in the hopes that it is going to appreciate, tell her to sell it. It is not worth waiting the time it would take to appreciate to a real profitable level.
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rec.autos
[email protected] (A.J. Teel) writes... On whose authority do you have this and on what grounds was it dismissed? Daniel Reitman HOW NOT TO WRITE A DEED One case involved the construction of a conveyance to grantees "jointly, as tenants in common, with equal rights and interest in said land, and to the survivor thereof, in fee simple. . . . To Have and to Hold the same unto the said parties hereto, equally, jointly, as tenants in common, with equal rights and interest for the period or term of their lives, and to the survivor thereof at the death of the other."
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talk.politics.misc
There were an assortment of firmware problems, but that is pretty much expected with any FAX/modem talking with a different FAX or modem which may have also been revised or is new. I'm pretty much oblivious to any current firmware problems, so you'll have to get it from someone else. However, I can tell you to stay clear of any board which uses the Rockwell MPU (as opposed to the DPU) for an internal implementation. This is because the MPU used "speed buffering" instead of having a 16550 interface. Without the 550 interface, the number of interrupts are still the same and thus may get dropped under multitasking conditions (like in windows). As far as I know, the "speed buffering" works OK for external modems if a 550 is used on the internal serial port board. Hope this helps... Tom
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comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
I guess the San Jose Mercury news is wrong then, and if so, why is the DA involved?
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talk.religion.misc
I think a new organization would be a much better idea, as the NRA carries as much undesireable baggage for me as the EFF and CPSR do for others. Are any hot-shot, reputable organizers reading this message? If an effective group comes into existence, it can count on me signing up.
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sci.crypt
To put it mildly. As I watched the Flyers demolish Toronto last night, 4-0, I realized that no matter how good the Leafs' #1 line may be, they'll need one or two more decent lines to go far in the playoffs. And, of course, a healthy Felix Potvin.
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rec.sport.hockey
presented Since her symptoms are only pain she would do weel to seek the advice of a good, multi-disciplinary pain clinic. It is distressing to think that people are stll being told they have to "live with the pain" when many options for pain management (rather than treating MRI findings) are available. A good pain clinic will accept that this lady's problem is her pain and set about finding ways of relieveing that.
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sci.med
Having thought about this, why don't you project the 2 lines onto the 2d plane formed by the lines. Do an intersection calculation in the plane in 2D, where you're guaranteed a unique solution (unless they're parallel which won't happen in this case), and then use parametric distance along the lines from the circle centres to determine the exact point of interest. This bypasses the messy error propogation required to do the calculation in 3d. Hope I haven't put my foot in it again! steve ---
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comp.graphics
Derian Hatcher's game-misconduct penalty was rescinded by the NHL, allowing the Minnesota defenseman to play in the North Stars' last two regular-season games. Hatcher was given the penalty during a fight at the end of a loss at St. Louis on Sunday, April 11. But the league didn't rescind the game-misconduct penalty Shane Churla received. The Stars recalled center Cal McGowan from their top minor league club in Kalamazoo, Mich., to replace Churla. The above is courtesy of The Washington Times on-line service. Now, here's where I need help. If anyone out there has a tape of Tuesday's Chicago-Minnesota game, please contact me. Terms will be favorable. Also, if anyone can tape tonight's Minnesota-Detroit game, please contact me. This could be quite important. Once again, I will make it worth your trouble. Thanks to all.
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rec.sport.hockey
None. You need to buy 2 80ns 256k VRAM SIMMs. They cost about $30 each from your favorite memory distributor. The 512k is soldered to the logic board. There are 2 SIMM slots for expansion.
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comp.sys.mac.hardware
When I was at the Texas Star Party a few years ago, the sky was so dark that Venus did, indeed, cause light pollution until it set. Even if the billboard were dark it could cause a problem. Imagine observing an object and halfway through your run, your object was occulted! I would guess that most of the people stating positive opinions are not fanatically serious observers. It is so typical that the rights of the minority are extinguished by the wants of the majority, no matter how ridiculous those wants might be. George Krumins --
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sci.space
Dumbest options? Well here in the UK, BMW offer a 'no-smokers' option... It just means they take the fag lighter out.... big deal.... BTW - I just bought a Honda CRX F1..... its neat... did consider an MR2 targa, MX5 (you guys call it Miata?).... but that CRX just one my heart with that body kit and 8-spokes....
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rec.autos
I am resending this message because my news program may have goofed the first time. Terry, I recently bought an LCIII and a Datadesk 101E. I don't remember trying to rebuild the desktop with it, however it did give me a strange problem. When I held down shift during startup to disable all extensions, nothing happened. I tried it with another keyboard, using the same adb connector cable- and it worked with the other keyboard. The shift key on the Datadesk keyboard worked well otherwise. I checked the dipswitches and they are fine. Try disabling your extensions and tell me if it works. I am annoyed with Datadesk. I sent them the keyboard in the mail for inspection/repair/replacement. The technician on the phone said they have a 10-14 day turn around time- meaning you should receive the inspected/repaired keyboard in that time. Well, they have had the keyboard for over 3 weeks and I still have gotten very little info from them about it. It's annoying because it cost me $12 to send them the keyboard and their technical support line is not toll free. tell me if you have a similar experience with them.
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comp.sys.mac.hardware
Hello, in the EDN magazine I found a note about the new C&T 82C735 I/O Controller. It support several parallel port protocols, including Fast Centronics Microsoft Enhanced Capabilities Protocol (ECP) Enhanced Parallel Port (EPP) The last two handle data rates up to 2Mbytes/sec. Is there any specification about these protocols available? Regards, Christian Franke
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comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Also, it appears that two of the three Marines have some sort of charges pending against them from another fight they were in a week before. Interesting. Frank -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frank R. Chloupek [email protected] Department of Physics -- *The* Ohio State University (Not just any Ohio State University)
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talk.politics.misc
Could someone please post the rosters for the College Hockey All-Star game East and West Rosters? Thanks in advance.
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rec.sport.hockey
Sure, but the surface condition of most good autobahns is far better than most of the roads here. A dip in the asphalt that you test your shocks on at 60 will kill you at 130. Don't get me wrong, I love to drive quickly and they say my Probe will do 130, but that's 30 more than I've ever tried in it cause there isn't a decent enough piece of road hereabouts.
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rec.autos
After IBM had invented the DES and the NBS had advertised for proposals, but before IBM had decided to respond, I argued strenuously that they should not; they should keep it proprietary. The biggest proponent of proposing was Dr. Lewis Branscomb. Dr. Branscomb was the IBM Chief Scientist and had come to IBM from NBS. Fortunately for all of us, Dr. Branscomb understood the answer to the above question much better than I. He realized how difficult it would be to gain acceptance for any cryptographic mechanism. Because of the necessary complexity, publicity would not be sufficient and neither would authority. In fact, it has taken both of those plus more than 15 years. We have also had independence. The DES was solicited by NBS, invented and proposed by IBM, and vetted by NBS. It has also been examined and vetted by experts like Adi Shamir, who are not subject to influence by any of these. Even now, there are still people posting on this list who do not trust the DES in spite of all the time, all of the analysis, and all of the public scrutiny. (Of course, it is just this point that NIST misses when it attempts to gain acceptance for a novel mechanism, developed in secret, on the basis of authority alone.) We had a long thread here about whether or not the NSA can "break" the DES. That is a silly question. At some cost and in some time they can "break" anything. The important question is at what cost and in what time. The fundamental strength of the DES and RSA are not nearly so important as what we know about their strength. As long as we understand the cost and duration for an attacker, then we can use them in a safe way. At this point, we may never replace either because of the inability of any successor to overcome this knowledge gap. DES and RSA are among the most significant inventions of the century and the most important inventions in the history of cryptography. We are damned lucky to have them.
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sci.crypt
In <[email protected]> [ . . . ] Having lived through the kicking and screaming in the 60s and 70s as the Catholics were invited to participate in the liturgy instead of counting their rosary beads during Mass, I find this comment interesting. There is a _massively_ longer tradition for proclaiming the Passion accounts without active participation. If you know the Latin, one really beautiful way to hear the Passion is it's being chanted by three deacons: the Narrator chants in the middle baritone range, Jesus chants in the bass, and others directly quoted are handled by a high tenor. This is actually the basis for the common proclamation of the Passion that John would prefer. But there is always a judgement call based on pastoral considerations. Each pastor makes his own decisions (it isn't a church-wide conspiracy against participation). The Palm Sunday liturgy, with its initial blessing and distribution of the palms and procession, is already getting long before you get to the Passion; some pastors feel that they should not make the people stand through that long narrative. Also, the orchestrated proclamation with multiple readers and public participation in the crowd quotations runs longer than the single-reader proclamation --- in churches with multiple Masses for the Sunday, it might be necessary to go with the briefer options just to "get 'em in and get 'em out". Each parish is different. Catholics are no longer canonically tied to their geographic parishes. It is possible that another Catholic parish in the Columbus area (based on the Ohio State address) has a liturgy closer to your preferences. Or talk to some of your fellow parishioners and see how common your preferences are --- pastors generally ARE willing to listen to non-confrontational requests. Though you probably should bring along a paramedic in case he reacts too strongly to the shock of people asked for a _longer_ Sunday Mass. Perhaps the problem is that recent liturgical development hasn't follow the continuous evolution model (the accumulation of small changes, no single one of which is too hard to take) but rather the punctuated equilibrium model (things stay the same and we get accustomed to them, then the marked mutation hits). {My apologies if I am mis-remembering the names of the evolutionary theories.}
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soc.religion.christian
The is a 3-4 week backorder, but they are shipping.
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comp.sys.mac.hardware
>>>Does the greatly increased rates of incarceration amongst >>>blacks show that they are dysfunctional or that the majority >>>of them support criminal activity? >>> >Isn't this a matter of demographics? Doesn't this simply show >that since criminal behaviour is common (or apt to be common) >in the 18-34 (insert your favorite correct numbers here) year >old range and since the percentage of blacks in this range is >higher than in other groups, then it follows statistically >that more blacks in prison is an expected result? > >Note that I haven't said anything about blacks being given >stiffer or longer sentences than other groups. I'm sure this >has to have an effect on the issue of over-representation of >blacks in prison... Blacks have the same (+- 2%) crime report rate, arrest rate, and incarceration rate for violent crimes. So I doubt that for violent crimes, that there is any inherent bias mechanism present. There is a wider discrepancy for all crimes for blacks wrt to 3 categories. Interestingly enough, the discrepancy is the largest in the Southern United States -- where blacks are incarcerated well BELOW the average in the rest of the United States! Which points to an anti-bias-against wrt blacks. In any case, for violent crimes and burglary and drug selling, blacks are reported 53%, arrested 44%, and are present in jails/prisons 47% (1988). Considering that 12% of the population is black, 6% are black males, and some percentage of that is out of the high/low age groups, we do have a situation where (if I remember my old calculations right) 4% of the population commits almost half of the really nasty crimes. Blacks with similar histories (crime) to whites get the same sentences, except in the South, where they receive around 20% less on paper!! -- There are actually people that STILL believe Love Canal was some kind of environmental disaster. Weird, eh?
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talk.politics.misc
AW&ST had a brief blurb on a Manned Lunar Exploration confernce May 7th at Crystal City Virginia, under the auspices of AIAA. Does anyone know more about this? How much, to attend???? Anyone want to go?
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sci.space
Would someone please send me James Oberg's email address, if he has one and if someone reading this list knows it? I wanted to send him a comment on something in his terraforming book. Paul F. Dietz [email protected]
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sci.space
The same place single men do, wallet in back pocket, comb in other back pocket, keys in front pocket, knive in other from pocket, pen in shirt pocket, or front pants pocket. Or do married men start carrying around a bunch of stuff to keep there women happy?
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rec.autos
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
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talk.religion.misc
The situation in this regard has changed considerably in recent years. See the discussion of "high-power rocketry" in the rec.models.rockets frequently-asked-questions list. This is not hardware you can walk in off the street and buy; you need proper certification. That can be had, mostly through Tripoli (the high- power analog of the NAR), although the NAR is cautiously moving to extend the upper boundaries of what it considers proper too. You need special FAA authorization, but provided you aren't doing it under one of the LAX runway approaches or something stupid like that, it's not especially hard to arrange. As with model rocketry, this sort of hardware is reasonably safe if handled properly. Proper handling takes more care, and you need a lot more empty air to fly in, but it's basically just model rocketry scaled up. As with model rocketry, the high-power people use factory-built engines, which eliminates the major safety hazard of do-it-yourself rocketry.
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sci.space
: I'm trying out the C++ graphics package InterViews. Besides the man pages : on the classes, I haven't got any documentation. Is there anything else : around? Furthermore, can anyone send me a (small!) example program : which shows how to use these classes together ? I would be very gratefull...
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comp.graphics
Frank, I tried to mail this but it bounced. It is fast moving out of t.a scope, but I didn't know if t.a was the only group of the three that you subscribed to. Apologies to regular t.a folks. You must be using 'values' to mean something different from the way I see it used normally. And you are certainly using 'Science' like that if you equate it to "the real world". Science is the recognition of patterns in our perceptions of the Universe and the making of qualitative and quantitative predictions concerning those perceptions. It has nothing to do with values as far as I can see. Values are ... well they are what I value. They are what I would have rather than not have - what I would experience rather than not, and so on. Objective values are a set of values which the proposer believes are applicable to everyone. I don't agree. Science is useful insofar as it the predictions mentioned above are accurate. That is insofar as what I think *will be* the effect on my perceptions of a time lapse (with or without my input to the Universe) versus what my perceptions actually turn out to be. But values are about whether I like (in the loosest sense of the word) the perceptions :-) I don't see why. 'Usefulness' in science is synonomous with 'accuracy' - period. Tarot predictions are not useful because they are not accurate - or can't be shown to be accurate. Science is useful because it is apparently accurate. Values - objective or otherwise - are beside the point. No?
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talk.religion.misc
Not quite correct. Biblical teaching expects us to celebrate the resurrection of Christ not once a year but every time someone is baptized. Col. 2:12-Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead." Rom. 6:4-Therefore we are buried with him in baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life." Those really want to celebrate the resurrection should by faith walk in newness of life after baptism. It is not necessary to celebrate a pagan goddess in the process. Paul answered your question in Romans 9. In v. 4 he stated that the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the service of God, and the promises were given to the Israelites. It is a package deal. He goes on to identify those who are true Israelites. Vs 6-8 makes it plain that the true Israelites are not those who are born that way but those who accept the promise of God. Paul continued to emphasize that he was an Israelite in 2 Cor. 11:22, then in Gal 3:29 he says that all those who belong to Christ are Abraham's seed, and heirs to all the promises given to the Israelites. The promises come with the law. It is all or nothing. Why is it that you only want to discard one part of the law? Certainly you would want your husband to be faithful to you. Or do you believe that adultery is no longer forbidden? Same law. BTW please give a reference for your statement that the Gentiles are only required to observe the basis commandmants. Could you list those please. Acts 15 deals with circumcision and the law of Moses which was added because of transgression of God's eternal law (Gal 3:19; Rom 4:15)
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soc.religion.christian
too bad he doesn't bring the ability to hit, pitch, field or run.
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rec.sport.baseball
Yes, but in a fairly reproducible way. -40 is only a smidgen of the distance to absolute zero. And in any case you're going to have to borrow freezer space from a bio lab or someone to test/calibrate this darling anyway. Btw, you're probably going to want those big capacitors you found to fire the solenoid -- High current drain on frozen batteries can be an ugly thing.
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sci.electronics
The speculum is the little cone that fits on the end of the otoscope. There are also vaginal specula that females and gynecologists are all too familiar with. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and [email protected] | it is shameful to surrender it too soon."
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sci.med
Hello world, I'm attempting to write an 8051 simulator on an IBM PC for teaching purposes, so that first-year elec-eng students can 'see' the workings of the microcontroller as it performs operations - logical ands, for example, being shown on a bit-by-bit basis (1 AND 1 = 1) so that the students can see that it's not really a mystical process, but totally logical, for example. Every instruction should show some 'working', and not just alter register/memory/port contents. Does anyone know of any freely-available example simulation code, in Pascal or Modula-2, that would show me where I'm going wrong in writing my simulator? [I'm using Ayala's -The 8051 Microcontroller- as a reference - the simulator supplied with the package is overkill for simple teaching purposes, I feel, and there's no source code to help you roll your own.] Please email me if you can help, or if you know of somewhere more appropriate I should be posting this - I rarely scan these groups. Thanks,
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comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
According to WNCI 97.9 FM radio this morning, Dayton, Ohio is operating a gun "buy back". They are giving $50 for every functional gun turned in. They ran out of money in one day, and are now passing out $50 vouchers of some sort. They are looking for more funds to keep operating. Another media-event brought to you by HCI. Is there something similar pro-gun people can do ? For example, pay $100 to anyone who lawfully protects their life with a firearm ? Sounds a bit tacky, but hey, whatever works.
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talk.politics.guns
I think this is getting a little overheated. Highway robbers have been a part of life since the Middle Ages at least. It's human nature to look at history through rose colored glasses, but random acts of violence have been a ceaseless part of our heritage. Overall, life is better now than it ever was then. It's just that random individual acts of violence have never been historically significant, and record keeping in the past was never good enough to retain them all.
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rec.autos
: Does Dorothy Denning read this group? If not, is someone on the group : forwarding questions like these to her, or Martin Hellman, or anyone else : who's seen more details about the chip? Of course she does; it's just she's been toasted so often for being an NSA patsy that she's keeping her head down. You can always mail her directly as [email protected], [email protected] or [email protected]
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sci.crypt
No need to appologise, as a matter of fact this reminds me to bring up something I have found consistant with dogs- Most of the time, they do NOT like having me and my bike anywhere near them, and will chase as if to bite and kill. An instructor once said it was because the sound from a bike was painfull to their ears. As silly as this seams, no other options have arrizen. net.wisdom?
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rec.motorcycles
Ken Arromdee writes Yes, but tell me how you think your question answers my question. If the BDs didn't know immediately that they were dealing with feds (uniform apparel, insignia), they must have figured it out in pretty short order. Why did they keep fighting? They seemed awfully ready for having been attacked "without warning".
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talk.religion.misc
Seems to be, barring evidence to the contrary, that Koresh was simply another deranged fanatic who thought it neccessary to take a whole bunch of folks with him, children and all, to satisfy his delusional mania. Jim Jones, circa 1993. Nope - fruitcakes like Koresh have been demonstrating such evil corruption for centuries.
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talk.religion.misc
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rec.autos
Oops! I came across this file from last year. Thought you might enjoy some of these thoughts. The predictions were made on the date indicated. They are largely out of order. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ June 11, 1992 [email protected] (ME!) You all know how things turned out. The Orioles, Red Sox, and Yankees all disappeared. The Jays and Tigers continued at essentially the expected pace. The Brewers and Indians cranked in the second half. The Rangers predictably took a dive. That shouldn't have surprised anybody. Meanwhile, as predicted, the Mariners dropped behind the Angels and Royals. They clearly didn't deserve the 22-33 record in June. The White Sox and A's upped their game a bit, while the Twins dropped off a little. But for the most part things were as expected. Okay, so there were a few blatant errors. But for a predictive calculation, I thought this did pretty well. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From [email protected] Tue Mar 31 16:36:34 1992 Hm. Pete Smith made the rotation instead of Mercker. And Bielecki wasn't released until the end of the year. I won't comment on the bullpen. (Jeff Reardon??? :-) Right on Blauser. Wrong on Bream and Mitchell. A bit early on Lonnie, as with Bielecki. Didn't pick Sanders. (Did anybody? :-) Three of them went, right? Showalter is still around (and likely to stick, it seems). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From [email protected] Tue Mar 31 17:04:22 1992 Nope! They won the division, and so kept him for a shot at the playoffs. :-) Well, they didn't finish last. Got that one right. Nope. I guess this is why you picked the Mets to win, huh? Tsk Tsk. Not nice to predict something like this. You got that right! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ And my response... Okay, so the Mets finished fifth. But I got the Pirates and Expos right! First half? Dead on! Second half? Ummm.... I'm a Sox fan, go easy on me! So I got my predictions for Gooden and Saberhagen reversed. :-) I was at least *close*, and was right about Jefferies. (Though I don't know. HAS WFAN criticized the Jefferies trade?) Close. No cigar. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Some predictions need no introduction! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sometimes us statheads get lucky. Grace *didn't* hit behind Dawson the entire season, but he also finished with only 79 RBIs. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Nope. He slowed down, and the injury finished him off. Didn't even reach 50. But a ballsy prediction, nonetheless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From [email protected] Thu May 21 16:42:21 1992 The Orioles finished seven games out. None of them won 20 (though Mussina might have had a chance, with better relief and more starts). Except for the Brewers (who you probably forgot), you were right! The rest of the division was thoroughly mediocre. The Yankees and Indians "led" with 76 wins, the Red Sox "trailed" with 73 wins. None were horrible, but four were five or more games below .500. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: [email protected] (David Johnson) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1992 15:47:30 GMT You win! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From [email protected] Thu Nov 14 14:33:45 1991 You were right! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From [email protected] Fri Sep 13 01:15:52 1991 He had 211 IP, but didn't win the Cy Young. Maddux surprised all. I don't think I want to wait that long. But they won 89 games last year, and they were fifth in the league in ERA. Not a bad start. Looks like it. He wasn't bad last year, just too consistent to be an ace. So far this year looks like more of the same. I honestly can't say. Did they get rid of him? Their BB totals were down last year. I just don't think he's that good.... :-) So far, so good. I'm *definitely* not waiting to check this one. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From [email protected] Fri Sep 13 12:38:08 1991 Current plans seem to be to use Quantrill in long relief. He has a rubber arm and unusual delivery. He might be decent in that role. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From [email protected] Sat Sep 14 01:51:28 1991 Wrong on all of the above. (Hal Morris????) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And my favorites! From tedward Sun Oct 20 23:52:57 1991 Belle hit 34 HR last year, walking 52 times (but five of those were intentional!). Okay, so I exaggerate. But I *might* have been right. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From [email protected] Tue Mar 31 15:25:28 1992 How much did Cal sign for? When did he sign? If I remember correctly, he got a rather hefty contract despite a weak season. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ And finally.... From [email protected] Thu Sep 12 10:35:58 1991 Snyder is still in SF. Acker is gone?? They aren't in the majors. Never heard of him. I don't *think* they are in the majors. Dunno what happened to him. If he's still around, he's stuck in the minors. Hm. With Raines out, Bo looks to get a lot of PT. :-) Hm. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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rec.sport.baseball
I have discussed this with my girlfriend often. I consider myself married, though legally I am not. Neither of us have been with other people sexually, although we have been with each other. We did not have sexual relations until we decided to marry eventually. For financial and distance reasons, we will not be legally married for another year and a half. Until then, I consider myself married for life in God's eyes. I have faith that we have a strong relationship, and have had for over 4 years, and will be full of joy when we marry in a church. First, however, we must find a church( we will be living in a new area when we marry, and will need to find a new church community). Anyway, I feel that if two people commit to marriage before God, they are married and are bound by that commitment.
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soc.religion.christian
What are the typical sizes for keys for commercial secret key algorithms? I know DES is 56 bits ("tripple DES" is 112 bits) and IDEA is 128 bits. Is there anything made in the US that has 128 bit keys? Anything anywhere that has larger keys? I've heard that RC2 can be scaled to arbitrarily large keys, but is this actually implemented anywhere? Finally, can anyone even concieve of a time/place where 128 bit keys aren't sufficient? (I certainly can't - even at a trillion keys a second, it would take about 10 billion years to search just one billionth of that keys space.)
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sci.crypt
When we take a hand off the bars we fall down! __ Jorg Klinger | GSXR1100 | If you only new who Arch. & Eng. Services |"Lost Horizons" CR500 | I think I am. UManitoba, Man. Ca. |"The Embalmer" IT175 | - anonymous
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rec.motorcycles
I've been following the Giants closely over the off-season -- newspapers, notesgroup, etc -- but I had my first up close and personal last night at the Stick. After watching Giants hitters struggle last year, Barry's swing was very impressive -- he's very quick and his swing seems effortless, even compared to Clark (particularly Clark as of late). It was interesting to see Bonds hit Maddux so well. I'm not sure if Barry was after revenge against the Braves or what but he stroked three very pretty hits (1b, 2b, hr) for 5 rbi's. The Giants as a team are doing a lot of surprising things this year in addition to Bonds. There has been some good pitching and some hitters seem to be swinging much better. Clayton's defense has been superb. McGee seems to like leading off this year. Manwaring is driving the ball. So on & so forth. I hope it continues...I think they need to continue well into June before people are really sold that they are for real--particularly the pitching. For myself, I think the fresh start of Magowan/Baker/etc has really wiped out a lot of negatives from the last few years and will be a real factor in helping them significantly improve over last year.
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rec.sport.baseball
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University Keywords: Israel has a right to keep Jerusalem for many reasons. They include the fact that the majority of the citizens are Israeli, the fact that Israel maintains religious freedom for all people, and the historical connection of Judaism to Jerusalem. When Jerusalem was devided by a Jordanian invasion in 1948, the cease fire agreement included the right of individuals to visit religious shrines. This cease fire agreement was violated by Jordan, who did not allow Jews to visit holy sites under their control. The Jordanians also bulldozed every synagoge in the city. They turned a Jewish cemetary into a hotel, and used the gravestones in their latrines. Israel has allowed individuals of all religions into Jerusalem, protected holy sites, and demonstrated its fitness to control the city. Also, I should point out that Islam is not centered in Jerusalem, but has holy sites there. The home of Islam is Mecca, where all Muslims should make a pilgramage (the hajj). Unlike Israeli Jerusalem, Jews and Christians are not allowed in Saudi Mecca. Adam Adam Shostack [email protected]
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talk.politics.mideast
Why don't you just run one LED at 60 KHz and use a flip flop at the receiving end to divide by 2 and give you a good square 30KHz signal. Just a thought. LORI
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sci.electronics
Aaahh... a problem very near and dear to my heart. In our case, other monitors cause this problem - the deflection coil of other monitors to be specific. Have also seen a monitor backed up to a fuse panel exhibit this problem. This sounds like your problem since flourescent lites, motors, etc several 10s of feet away seem to me to be too far to cause it, but the juice running to them must pass nearby your monitor. Fusebox on other side of wall maybe? We started spec'ing Panasonic CT-1331Y video monitors (3 switchable input lines(vid & aud) S-VHS on one) <$400. This stopped the wavy interference effect on the computer monitor next to it. Now on to your problem. You need what is known as mu shielding (very common, in fact almost mandatory on electrostatic deflection type O'scopes). I talked to a EE prof. He said get a coffee can, cut both ends off, mount around deflection coil of interfering monitor. BE CAREFUL TO AVOID ALL HIGH VOLTAGE CIRCUITRY. ESPECIALLY THE THICKER HIGH VOLTAGE ANODE LEAD USUALLY COLORED RED. IF YOU KILL YOURSELF, DON'T BLAME/SUE ME!!! USE PLASTIC OR OTHER NON-CONDUCTING STAND-OFFS AND SUCH TO MOUNT CAN. Now, I would assume that what is good for keeping mag fields in is also good at keeping them out, so hopefully this'll work by mounting shield on monitor being interfered with as well. If not, start shielding those other sources.
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sci.electronics
Insurance companies sure seem to go for No-Fault coverage. Since the majority of accidents are the cagers' fault, doesn't this imply that we would have to pay much higher rates under a No-Fault system? With a cars-only system, it seems to make sense on the surface: take the legal costs out of the system. But it looks like motorcyclists would get screwed. -- Michael "Chuck" Bain [email protected]
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rec.motorcycles
Every time somone writes something and says it is merely describing the norm, it is infact re-inforcing that norm upon those programmed not to think for themselves. The motto is dangerous in itself, it tells the world that every *true* American is god-fearing, and puts down those who do not fear gods. It doesn't need anyone to make it dangerous, it does a good job itself by just existing on your currency. The Desert Brat
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alt.atheism
Nor, to point out the obvious, are the deluded, siege-mentality followers of a religious nut-case who thought he was Jesus Christ or possibly The Big Guy. Personally, much as I regard the BATF and FBI as ConDupes, I'll take their word over a bunch of silly pinks who were stoopid enough to lock themselves up with a goofball like "David Koresh" in a makeshift arsenal. ************************************************************ * The_Doge of South St. Louis * * Dobbs-Approved Media Conspirator(tm) * * "One Step Beyond" -- Sundays, 3 to 5 pm * * 88.1 FM St. Louis Community Radio * * "You'll pay to know what you *really* think!" * * -- J.R. "Bob" Dobbs" * ************************************************************
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talk.religion.misc
:Thousands? Tens of thousands? Do some arithmetic, please... Skipjack :has 2^80 possible keys. We don't yet know if all 80 bits count. Anyway, its looking like the keys and escrow arrangements are smoke and mirrors to cover the way the NSA can regenerate the key from the transmitted serial number.
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sci.crypt
Don't just nab it, POUNCE on it. These are fairly rare bikes, and they are MORE than adequate for putting a big brown stripe in your shorts. Does a 50mph power wheelie appeal to you? I thought it would... Only really bad things: the stock clutch isn't up to the task. Barnett can take care of this. The back tire wears quickly (gee, wonder why?), and the induction system is a bear to work on. Later,
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rec.motorcycles
[part of posting removed] * the Sony CPD-1304 has better video circuitry than either of the other two monitors. It can display Apple 640x480, VGA 640x480, VGA 800x600 (though this has 56 Hz flicker), and Apple 832x624 (75 Hz refresh: no flicker at all). It might be able to display Apple's 1024x768, but I'm not sure about this, and the pixels would be real small anyway so it might not be that useful. Note that with either Sony monitor, you will need the proper adapter, which both connects the video signals properly, but also informs the Macintosh video hardware of which display mode to use. [part of posting removed] -- Fred Martin | [email protected] | (617) 253-7143 | 20 Ames St. Rm. E15-301 Epistemology and Learning Group, MIT Media Lab | Cambridge, MA 02139 USA I'm assuming that the cabling tells the Mac, at startup, what kind of monitor is connected. Now I think I've seen ads in popular Mac magazines for products (I'm not sure if it's just a monitor, just a video card, or a package of both) that allow you to change resolutions on the fly (w/o restarting the Mac). If you were to buy a 1304, would it be possible to switch back and forth between Apple 640x480 and Apple 832x624 without restarting the Mac? Is this strictly a hardware startup function, or can software intervene, or does the Mac hardware occasionally probe the cable setting and switch automatically? Thanks,
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comp.sys.mac.hardware
The final stages of denial... I can hardly imagine what the result would have been if the Clinton administration had actually supported this plan, instead of merely acquiescing with repugnance as they've so obviously doing. I don't believe the chip originated with the Clinton administration either, but the Clinton administration has embraced it and brought it to fruition. Both of the major parties have what they consider excellent reasons for limiting your freedoms and violating your privacy, and even seem to feel that they're doing you a favor. If this is really surprising to anyone it means they've been willfully ignoring quite a bit of previous evidence. There's only one political party (not calling anarchists a party) that considers your freedom and privacy goals worthy in and of themselves. If you're voting for the big two, you're supporting a reduction of those rights (given their goals and their histories), regardless of whether you personally support that reduction. To paint Clinton and Gore as unwitting tools is really stretching things.
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sci.crypt
Hi there, I am looking for a wide band analog time delay (not phase delay) variable from 200 microseconds to 2 milliseconds.
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sci.electronics