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What gives the US the right to keep New York? It is the home of the
United Nations as well as being home to a myriad of ethnic groups.
(Actually, NYC is more comparable to the Gaza Strip; the controlling
authority would probably be pleased as punch to unload it on someone
else -- but no-one seems to want it! :-)
A-historical bullshit. Shamir fought the British (who, incidentally,
shipped whole shiploads of Jews back to the Nazis for extermination
and hung those Jewish fighters that they captured and didn't want to
deal with anymore). Shamir did not attack civilians on airliners,
cruise ships, in airports, sports events, movie theaters, markets,
on buses and children in schoolyards. Your comparison to a Master
Murderer like Abu Nidal is BLIND!
| 17 | talk.politics.mideast |
[Text deleted, no value judgement implied]
More than shocking. What this says to me is no less than that government
is very interested in monitoring the public. This does more than scare me,
it mortifies me.
PGP and RIPEM must become widespread enough to resist what Mr. Finney has
[IMHO correctly] identified as the next logical step. What was once an
academic discussion with regard to concealing cyphertext, has now become
a real consideration.
The rhetoric that the clinton administration seems obsessed with, harmony,
either or propositions, tension, tells me that they know how difficult
it will be to sell this proposition.
The phrase I hear more and more is "I can't believe this is actually happening
here." Call me conserative, Clinton was a huge mistake that we'll all be
paying for tommorow and many years from now.
Have we approached the age of speakeasy public key depositiories?
uni (Dark) | 11 | sci.crypt |
Just what do gay people do that straight people don't?
Absolutely nothing.
I'm a VERY straight(as an arrow), 17-year old male that is involved in the BSA.
I don't care what gay people do among each other, as long as they don't make
passes at me or anything. At my summer camp where I work, my boss is gay.
Not in a 'pansy' way of gay (I know a few), but just 'one of the guys'.
He doesn't push anything on me, and we give him the same respect back, due
to his position.
If anything, the BSA has taught me, I don't know, tolerance or something.
Before I met this guy, I thought all gays were 'faries'. So, the BSA HAS
taught me to be an antibigot. | 0 | alt.atheism |
...quickly followed by...
This is the standard method for claiming non-combatant status, even
for the commanders of combat.
"Innocent civilians"??? Like the ones who set up the booby traps or
engaged in shoot-outs with soldiers or attack them with grenades or
axes?
And the rest of the world is getting used to Arab tactics of claiming
innocence for even the most guilty of the vile murderers among them.
Keep it up long enough and it will backfire but good.
| 17 | talk.politics.mideast |
I have an old Optonica tuner and integrated amp that I no longer
use. The integrated amp section does not work right now but should
not cost much to fix. I believe that it is just a Chip. I have
used it as a preamp and it works great!
This is a very nice looking and well built set. They both are low
profile but the amp is rather heavy.
The tuner is in fine working condition and is a match to the amp.
The amp is rated at 75w/ch.
These peices went for about $850 New.
I would like to get $150. obo for the pair.
If anybody has knowledge anough to fix the amp, I have had an estimate
done that it should cost less than $50 in parts.
Please email me if you are interested. I will be moving back home for
the summer and will sell it back there if I do not do so here.
Todd
| 6 | misc.forsale |
Hello,
This is my first net letter, so forgive mistakes!
I have been plagued by problems (or lack of info) with
authorization in Open Windows 3.0 for a long while and
would like some help please! I generally use strait
MIT X, and so don't use OW much, but when I share
X software with others - bad news.
PROBLEM:
My friend who logs into his SSII trys to run my
program that runs fine on my machine, however,
my friend gets "client not authorized to connect
to server" (or something close). If OW is started
with the -noauth option all is well, but surely this
is not required in general!
Also, xhost + does not work, becoming root does not
work, etc...
Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Thanx | 5 | comp.windows.x |
Good thing i stuck in a couple of question marks up there.
I seem to recall, somebody built or at least proposed a wasp waisetd
Passenger civil transport. I thought it was a 727, but maybe it
was a DC- 8,9??? Sure it had a funny passenger compartment,
but on the other hand it seemed to save fuel.
I thought Area rules applied even before transonic speeds, just
not as badly. | 14 | sci.space |
Society
those
shaky
Now, I'm not saying you're wrong because I know that the R-12 substitutes
exist, but this sounds a lot like the 200mpg carbs that the oil companies
keep us all from getting. | 7 | rec.autos |
14 | sci.space |
|
Greetings:
Here is a list of items for the 3B1 which I am selling:
dBase III - Full dBase III multiuser Development/Runtime for 3B1!
Microsoft Basic Interpreter - Gives 2.5 Megabytes RAM available!
Microsoft Word - Full featured mouse-based multiuser word-processor.
Microsoft MultiPlan - Nice multiuser spreadsheet program.
GSS-Chart - Nice graphical program for creating business charts.
LPI-C - A robust C compiler. I'll throw in LPI-DEBUG:single-step,alter vars.
AT&T Electronic Mail - Very nice Office-based front end to mail.
I'll take $500 or best offer for the whole bunch. I bought all of these
new in 1985, and paid over $2,000 for these excellent programs.
I'd rather sell them together, but don't hesitate to make me an offer for one.
I'd consider possible trades. I'm interested in the following 3b1 Hardware:
Ethernet Card with or without Software
Tape Backup
External Expansion Unit
Upgraded P5.1 motherboard (Or just info on who can do the P5.1 upgrades)
ICUS 2nd hard drive upgrade kit
AT&T 513bct, 610, 615, or 4415 terminals with the UNIXPC-style keyboard
Make me an offer.
Bob Ames
[email protected]
707-546-0669
PS: I can get UNIX PCs with 40M Drives and 1M Motherboards loaded with 3.51m,
cnews, smail, trn, rn, elm, nethack, gzip, HDB, and a couple other things
for about $550 each plus shipping. Let me know if you're interested. | 6 | misc.forsale |
The National Air & Space Museum has both the prototype and the film.
When I was there, some years ago, they had the prototype on display and
the film continuously repeating. | 14 | sci.space |
This is probably a stupid question but as I am new to the motorcycle scene
I don't really know anything about it. What is DoD?
Thanks, | 8 | rec.motorcycles |
It depends on the attack. Adding a bit to the key doubles the amount of
work to be done in a straight brute-force attack, where you try every single
possible key until one works. Processing and storage requirements for this
kind of attack on a 128-bit key seem like they ought to make it effectively
impossible. However, there may be other attacks whose difficulty is (for
example) proportional to, say, 2**sqrt(n), or some such. Also, a long
key does you little good if there is a way to incrementally guess a little
of the key at a time.... | 11 | sci.crypt |
Walt Weiss tripled just barely inside the right field line and into the
corner, driving in Santiago and Conine. These were the first two
RBIs. The third came later when Weiss was knocked in.
| 9 | rec.sport.baseball |
from Anna Matyas:
Yeah, and also be second in the team in scoring and play about 35
minutes a game and play on the power play and kill penalties and be the
best defenseman in the league. I'd take a whole team of Chelioses if I
could. (That way, when one got a penalty the others could kill it!) | 10 | rec.sport.hockey |
Some variant is quite popular. This, and other arguments, are
discussed in John Leslie Mackie's "The Miracle of Theism: arguments
for and against the existence of God". Although Mackie ultimately
sides with "against", his arguments are, I think, quite fair to both
sides. Brief discussions can be found in the alt.atheism FAQs. | 15 | soc.religion.christian |
Assume in this case the usual canard-adversary of narcotraficantes. They
probably have more cash than the KGB did, and they're probably more generous
at handing it out. It will be easier than ever to find or cultivate Walkers
and Pollards for the keys, and it will be easy enough to find someone to
reverse-engineer the chip (unless the tamper proofing is damned clever and
effective). | 11 | sci.crypt |
Well, I thought it must have been a joke, but I don't get the
joke in the name. Read it aloud? David MACaloon. David MacALLoon.
David macalOON. I don't geddit. | 14 | sci.space |
At the company I worked for previously, I received a file that was des encryped
and the person that had sent it, went on vaction. Rather than wait two weeks
I set up a straight frontal attack with one key at a time. It only took two(2)
days to crack the file. No, I don't have any faith in DES.
A.G.
| 11 | sci.crypt |
:
: Where could I find a description of the JPG file format? Specifically
: I need to know where in a JPG file I can find the height and width of
: the image, and perhaps even the number of colors being used.
:
: Any suggestions?
:
: Peter
Try ftp.uu.net, in /graphics/jpeg.
-- | 1 | comp.graphics |
Anti Freeze
I was wrong, still had the issue of "Street Rodder" in
my last pile. In the February 1991 issue on page 24 there
is an advirtisement for anti freeze.
AND IT MAKES A GREAT PARTY MIXER
The Neo Synthetic Oil Company has a reputation for
developing overkill priducts the protect and extend
the life of mechinical things, and here is there latest
development. Propylene Glycol, probably the finest radiator
coolant available. After 100,000 miles of testing, they find
it has a boiling point of 365 degrees (much higher than
conventional coolants)- which helps elminate detonation and
pinging, it allows the use of smaller radiators in race cars,
it will not damage aluminum blocks or heads, and it is
environmentally safe. Yep, this is the good stuff.
Baker Precision Products
Dept SRM
2865 Gundry Ave
Long Beach Ca 90806
[213] 427-2375
I neither endorse or unendorse the above product, I only
copied the advert blurb for others info, YMMV | 8 | rec.motorcycles |
Does anyone have the NHL STANDINGS for March 28th? I need them IMMEDIATELY
for a project. Please post or email. THANKS.
| 10 | rec.sport.hockey |
I agree. Where in the Gospels does Jesus advocate any of the actions
you mention?
I couldn't find "witch" or "sorceress" in my concordance. Is there
something in the Epistles about witches? (I'm still working my way
through the Gospels.)
JJ | 15 | soc.religion.christian |
Note: This file will also be available via anonymous file
transfer from csrc.ncsl.nist.gov in directory /pub/nistnews and
via the NIST Computer Security BBS at 301-948-5717.
---------------------------------------------------
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
_________________________________________________________________
For Immediate Release April 16, 1993
STATEMENT BY THE PRESS SECRETARY
The President today announced a new initiative that will bring
the Federal Government together with industry in a voluntary
program to improve the security and privacy of telephone
communications while meeting the legitimate needs of law
enforcement.
The initiative will involve the creation of new products to
accelerate the development and use of advanced and secure
telecommunications networks and wireless communications links.
For too long there has been little or no dialogue between our
private sector and the law enforcement community to resolve the
tension between economic vitality and the real challenges of
protecting Americans. Rather than use technology to accommodate
the sometimes competing interests of economic growth, privacy and
law enforcement, previous policies have pitted government against
industry and the rights of privacy against law enforcement.
Sophisticated encryption technology has been used for years to
protect electronic funds transfer. It is now being used to
protect electronic mail and computer files. While encryption
technology can help Americans protect business secrets and the
unauthorized release of personal information, it also can be used
by terrorists, drug dealers, and other criminals.
A state-of-the-art microcircuit called the "Clipper Chip" has
been developed by government engineers. The chip represents a
new approach to encryption technology. It can be used in new,
relatively inexpensive encryption devices that can be attached to
an ordinary telephone. It scrambles telephone communications
using an encryption algorithm that is more powerful than many in
commercial use today.
This new technology will help companies protect proprietary
information, protect the privacy of personal phone conversations
and prevent unauthorized release of data transmitted
electronically. At the same time this technology preserves the
ability of federal, state and local law enforcement agencies to
intercept lawfully the phone conversations of criminals.
A "key-escrow" system will be established to ensure that the
"Clipper Chip" is used to protect the privacy of law-abiding
Americans. Each device containing the chip will have two unique
2
"keys," numbers that will be needed by authorized government
agencies to decode messages encoded by the device. When the
device is manufactured, the two keys will be deposited separately
in two "key-escrow" data bases that will be established by the
Attorney General. Access to these keys will be limited to
government officials with legal authorization to conduct a
wiretap.
The "Clipper Chip" technology provides law enforcement with no
new authorities to access the content of the private
conversations of Americans.
To demonstrate the effectiveness of this new technology, the
Attorney General will soon purchase several thousand of the new
devices. In addition, respected experts from outside the
government will be offered access to the confidential details of
the algorithm to assess its capabilities and publicly report
their findings.
The chip is an important step in addressing the problem of
encryption's dual-edge sword: encryption helps to protect the
privacy of individuals and industry, but it also can shield
criminals and terrorists. We need the "Clipper Chip" and other
approaches that can both provide law-abiding citizens with access
to the encryption they need and prevent criminals from using it
to hide their illegal activities. In order to assess technology
trends and explore new approaches (like the key-escrow system),
the President has directed government agencies to develop a
comprehensive policy on encryption that accommodates:
-- the privacy of our citizens, including the need to
employ voice or data encryption for business purposes;
-- the ability of authorized officials to access telephone
calls and data, under proper court or other legal
order, when necessary to protect our citizens;
-- the effective and timely use of the most modern
technology to build the National Information
Infrastructure needed to promote economic growth and
the competitiveness of American industry in the global
marketplace; and
-- the need of U.S. companies to manufacture and export
high technology products.
The President has directed early and frequent consultations with
affected industries, the Congress and groups that advocate the
privacy rights of individuals as policy options are developed.
3
The Administration is committed to working with the private
sector to spur the development of a National Information
Infrastructure which will use new telecommunications and computer
technologies to give Americans unprecedented access to
information. This infrastructure of high-speed networks
("information superhighways") will transmit video, images, HDTV
programming, and huge data files as easily as today's telephone
system transmits voice.
Since encryption technology will play an increasingly important
role in that infrastructure, the Federal Government must act
quickly to develop consistent, comprehensive policies regarding
its use. The Administration is committed to policies that
protect all Americans' right to privacy while also protecting
them from those who break the law.
Further information is provided in an accompanying fact sheet.
The provisions of the President's directive to acquire the new
encryption technology are also available.
For additional details, call Mat Heyman, National Institute of
Standards and Technology, (301) 975-2758.
---------------------------------
QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ABOUT THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION'S
TELECOMMUNICATIONS INITIATIVE
Q: Does this approach expand the authority of government
agencies to listen in on phone conversations?
A: No. "Clipper Chip" technology provides law enforcement with
no new authorities to access the content of the private
conversations of Americans.
Q: Suppose a law enforcement agency is conducting a wiretap on
a drug smuggling ring and intercepts a conversation
encrypted using the device. What would they have to do to
decipher the message?
A: They would have to obtain legal authorization, normally a
court order, to do the wiretap in the first place. They
would then present documentation of this authorization to
the two entities responsible for safeguarding the keys and
obtain the keys for the device being used by the drug
smugglers. The key is split into two parts, which are
stored separately in order to ensure the security of the key
escrow system.
Q: Who will run the key-escrow data banks?
A: The two key-escrow data banks will be run by two independent
entities. At this point, the Department of Justice and the
Administration have yet to determine which agencies will
oversee the key-escrow data banks.
Q: How strong is the security in the device? How can I be sure
how strong the security is?
A: This system is more secure than many other voice encryption
systems readily available today. While the algorithm will
remain classified to protect the security of the key escrow
system, we are willing to invite an independent panel of
cryptography experts to evaluate the algorithm to assure all
potential users that there are no unrecognized
vulnerabilities.
Q: Whose decision was it to propose this product?
A: The National Security Council, the Justice Department, the
Commerce Department, and other key agencies were involved in
this decision. This approach has been endorsed by the
President, the Vice President, and appropriate Cabinet
officials.
Q: Who was consulted? The Congress? Industry?
A: We have on-going discussions with Congress and industry on
encryption issues, and expect those discussions to intensify
as we carry out our review of encryption policy. We have
briefed members of Congress and industry leaders on the
decisions related to this initiative.
Q: Will the government provide the hardware to manufacturers?
A: The government designed and developed the key access
encryption microcircuits, but it is not providing the
microcircuits to product manufacturers. Product
manufacturers can acquire the microcircuits from the chip
manufacturer that produces them.
Q: Who provides the "Clipper Chip"?
A: Mykotronx programs it at their facility in Torrance,
California, and will sell the chip to encryption device
manufacturers. The programming function could be licensed
to other vendors in the future.
Q: How do I buy one of these encryption devices?
A: We expect several manufacturers to consider incorporating
the "Clipper Chip" into their devices.
Q: If the Administration were unable to find a technological
solution like the one proposed, would the Administration be
willing to use legal remedies to restrict access to more
powerful encryption devices?
A: This is a fundamental policy question which will be
considered during the broad policy review. The key escrow
mechanism will provide Americans with an encryption product
that is more secure, more convenient, and less expensive
than others readily available today, but it is just one
piece of what must be the comprehensive approach to
encryption technology, which the Administration is
developing.
The Administration is not saying, "since encryption
threatens the public safety and effective law enforcement,
we will prohibit it outright" (as some countries have
effectively done); nor is the U.S. saying that "every
American, as a matter of right, is entitled to an
unbreakable commercial encryption product." There is a
false "tension" created in the assessment that this issue is
an "either-or" proposition. Rather, both concerns can be,
and in fact are, harmoniously balanced through a reasoned,
balanced approach such as is proposed with the "Clipper
Chip" and similar encryption techniques.
Q: What does this decision indicate about how the Clinton
Administration's policy toward encryption will differ from
that of the Bush Administration?
A: It indicates that we understand the importance of encryption
technology in telecommunications and computing and are
committed to working with industry and public-interest
groups to find innovative ways to protect Americans'
privacy, help businesses to compete, and ensure that law
enforcement agencies have the tools they need to fight crime
and terrorism.
Q: Will the devices be exportable? Will other devices that use
the government hardware? | 11 | sci.crypt |
A brilliant algorithm. *NOT*
Seriously - it's correct, up to a sign change. The flaw is obvious, and
will therefore not be shown.
sorry about that.
| 1 | comp.graphics |
Here are some cool 3-D background patterns I made.
Edit your CONTROL.INI and add the following lines to your [Patterns] section.
Bricks=148 43 86 172 89 182 99 201
Tile=1 43 85 43 85 43 85 255
Tile (diagonal)=148 107 54 156 73 182 99 201
Slats=0 170 85 170 85 170 85 255
Make sure your desktop color is one of the standard 16 colors or the
patterns might not work. I like dark grey the best with these. | 2 | comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
I am currently looking for a 3D graphics library that runs on MS
Windows 3.1. Are there any such libraries out there other than
Visuallib? (It must run on VGA and should not require any other
add-on graphics cards).
For Visuallib, will it run with Metaware High C compiler v3.0? Any
email contact for the author of Visuallib?
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.
| 1 | comp.graphics |
I have the need for displaying 2 1/2 D surfaces under X, using only
Xlib, Xt and Xm. Does anyone know of a package, available on internet,
which will be able to do the work?
I am looking for a STAND-ALONE package providing similar functions
to "xprism3" available with Khoros, but without the numerous libraries
required for it. I want to be able to recompile it and run it on
various platforms, from SGIs to i486s (UNIX).
Any help will be appreciated.
| 1 | comp.graphics |
To answer your irrelevant question, yes a person of color is human,
but I still don't know what you mean by human being and you have
merely begged the question without responding. By trying to inject
the notion of race into the discussion, you muddy the waters without
adding any insight whatever. The same parallel question could
be "Is a polydactyl person a human being?" You still have not
answered what you mean by human being. Please do so.
You won't answer the question and instead drag in irrelevancies.
If you want a definition of human being that does not depend on
the vagaries of law, but holds solid whatever the law may rule,
provide it for me.
More irrelevancies. As Larry Margolis pointed out, the law
has made special exceptions in order to include fetuses, but does
not follow your version of human being. And as he pointed out,
brain death is not a means of determining who has the rights
of the living, but rather who has died. There is a significant
difference.
What I am wondering now is, has your argument so failed you that
you feel it necessary to drag out irrelevancies and leave the
thread you started? You got answers to your questions when
you began baiting me, if you recall, after you had made some
ridiculous remarks about Adrienne Regard and, having been corrected,
changed the subject with your remarks about having a discussion
of substance. If you really wanted a discussion of substance,
why then do you disregard logic and substance in order to toss
silly accussations, e.g. "It really doesn't matter to you..."
If it matters to you, then why not define human being and seek
some substance? You're not going to convince a logical person
of the rightness of your position unless you apply some logic
and show some meaning to your words.
As others point out, one is sacrificed for the other depending on
which has the better chance at survival. Again, your analogy
fails. Not precedence, but possession makes a difference here.
A woman's womb is indisputably her own. Also, I see you ignore
my statement that you would grant rights to a fetus that would
not be granted a born human being. Was that due to its inconvenience?
Is it? Please cite a precedent and the basis of the ruling.
You simply assert things without any support. Your analogy is
not accurate and your assertions are unsupported. Try this on
for size. It is not murder for one Siamese twin to kill
the other in the womb. There. We now have equal arguments.
But the idea is illogical. For one Siamese twin to kill the
other in the womb would likely be to kill itself as well. The
systems are dependent on each other for life. I'm still struggling
to see anything analagous here and failing to do so.
Your argument is from Fantasy Island. Your comparison is a total
failure, as I have demonstrated already, and has no basis in
reality, neither legally nor medically. And for you to assert
that it is not a perfect comparison because of the impossible,
that of coercion or oppression, is ridiculous. As I said,
you give the analogy too little credit for failure. On the one
hand you start this by saying you want to take a real, rather than
a hypothetical, situation, then you fly off into Siamese twins
murdering one another in the womb or coercing or oppressing each
other in the womb when the reality of the situation you describe
in now way matches your version. As I said before, decisions
are made regarding which twin lives and dies in situations where
they cannot both survive. And, furthermore, as I have already said,
there is a difference between an equal claim to organs and a claim
that is unequal. You seem to be asserting that a fetus has a
claim on a woman's womb. When the fetus is born, what happens to
its claim? And by what reason do you assert its claim?
You haven't answered the question. The situations are not analagous.
Again you avoid the question. Dependence can be transferred, and
it is not as slow as you seem to think.
Yes, and I'd hate to have been the one to tell Dr Gunn's children that
he was murdered by a religious, "pro-life" fanatic. Please do
try to stay relevant.
Clever comeback. I congratulate you on the readiness of your wit.
What happened to that claim to bodily organs where life is at stake?
Why does this parent now have an indisputable right to his or her
kidney when previously the parent did not, by your standards? What
is different about the two situations? I see I have to spell this
out for you since the meaning was too subtle for you. In the one
case you do not recognize a difference between a fetus and a born
child (you ask why a born child cannot be abandoned but a fetus
can), and in this case you recognize a significant difference
between the fetus and born child where the lives of the two are at
stake. You can't have it both ways. Action and inaction are
irrelevant to the principle, but you are wrong about the inaction
anyway. Ask any of the numerous women who post here and have
borne children how inactive their pregnancy was. To have a
healthy, live child, a woman does more than hang out, eat as
she chooses, plays volleyball like she always did, drinks at
parties with her friends, etc. She behaves very differently, and
the provision of her resources to a fetus may be no more voluntary
than the beating of her heart, but it is far from inactive. | 18 | talk.politics.misc |
I HEARTILY agree. Now that the BATF warrant has been
unsealed, it is CLEAR that Clinton and Reno supported an
ILLEGAL raid. Did they not KNOW this?
NO authority for a 'no-knock" raid
NO authority to use helicopters.
NO authority to search for a "drug lab"
And, apparently, not even any authority to search for "automatic
weapons". | 16 | talk.politics.guns |
Hello,
We are having troubles using the PC/TCP onpredir (printer redirection program
with lpr support) with the Windows print manager. The onpredir simply waits
an do only the capture till the end of the Windows session, while after some
printer inactivity it should start the printing.
Does anybody uses this two programs together? | 2 | comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
i think lamont is tryin sax out in left because he is messing with his
mind. he is trying to stir loose the mental block that he has had.
sax was supposed to play in left last night (4-14) but we were rained
out. it's not like we need to add any more outfielders to our team.
it's mental | 9 | rec.sport.baseball |
Hi ... can anyone tell me where I can get a copy of updated Canon BJ-200
printer driver for Windows 3.1, if any ? I have ver 1.0 which comes with
my BJ-200 printer, I just wonder if there is any newer version. | 2 | comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
--
MoOLIT (Motif/Open Look Intrinsic Toolkit allows developers to build
applications that can switch between Motif and Open Look at run-time,
while OLIT only gives you Open Look.
| 5 | comp.windows.x |
Hello fellow netlanders.
I have a Genius Mouse model GM-6, but no driver for it.
It's a 3 button mouse. If anyone that;s got one of theese
could mail me a driver (config.sys or autoexec.bat) I would
be very happy.
| 3 | comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
You know, it just occurred to me today that this whole Christian thing
can be blamed solely on Mary.
So, she's married to Joseph. She gets knocked up. What do you think
ol' Joe will do if he finds she's been getting around? So Mary comes up
with this ridiculous story about God making her pregnant. Actually, it
can't be all THAT ridiculous, considering the number of people that
believe it. Anyway, she never tells anyone the truth, and even tells
poor little Jesus that he's hot shit, the Son of God. Everyone else
tells him this too, since they've bought Mary's story. So, what does
Mary actually turn out to be? An adultress and a liar, and the cause of
mankind's greatest folly...
Just my recently-minted two cents.
Chris
| 0 | alt.atheism |
I need to port several OS/2 PM applications to X (OpenWindows or Motif),
and desperately need any information on how to go about doing this (short
of a complete rewrite.
Are there any tool to make porting easer?
Any References?
Any talent out there to hire to do this?
I will even take an OS/2 Presentation Mgr emulator for sun!
Any, and all replies (except flames) welcome!
Brian Colaric | 5 | comp.windows.x |
I don't think they provide homeopaths, heck the heir apparent was trying to
promote Osteopaths to the ranks of eligibility a couple of years back... It
pleased my family no end, since I'm at an Osteopathic school, sort of
validated it for them...then I told them that the name was the same but the
practice was different....oh.
If you're seeking validation for your philosophy on the strength of
the national health service adopting it, I suggest that you are not very
sure of the validity of your philosophy. I believe in 1946, the NHS was
still having its nurses taught the fine art of "cupping", which is the
vacuum extraction of intradermal fluids by means of heating a cup, placing
it on the afflicted site and allowing it to cool.
I wouldn't take my sick daughter to a homeopath.
| 13 | sci.med |
Well, I was told that my last message came through without anything
in it, so I'll try again.
I have a Leading Edge 386SX 16 with a flaky motherboard and a friend
game me one to replace it, but he didn't have any docs for the
mother board. It's a CHEERTRON board with Award bios and has a
sticker on it that says VI 1 T1 3 T2 3 on it. I can tell what
most of the switches on the blue blocks mean. except FDC and
SH, but I have no idea about all the jumpers. I've replaced hard
drives and modems and installed math co-processes, but this is a
bit out of my league and without the docs, I'm really lost.
If anyone could give me some help on this, I'd really appreciate
it. I don't get on news regularly, so if you can help, please
e-mail me at [email protected]
Thanks. | 3 | comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
but what is Saturn's motivation here? they're already selling every
car they make, with multiple shifts in the plant. given this, what
possible motivation could they have to lower prices?
cheers,
richard | 7 | rec.autos |
I have 2 new SMC 270E ARCNET cards for sale . They are brand new. $50 each | 3 | comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
After reading some of the reports of possible NHL moves to Milwaukee or that
Milwaukee should have an NHL team, I thought I'd pass along a story I heard
recently. This is second hand, so I don't know how true it is, but I have
no reason to doubt it either.
Bradley Center in Milwaukee is home to the Milwaukee Admirals minor leauge
hockey team. The owner of the Admirals (sorry, I can't remember his name)
either owns or at least shelled out the majority of the funds to build the
Bradley Center.
Supposedly he was approached by the NHL about an expansion franchise, but
turned it down because he thought the franchise fee of $50 million was too
high.
Like I said, I don't know whether this story is true or just a rumor, but if
it's true, don't look for an NHL team in Milwaukee anytime soon. The Admirals
aren't going to be forced out of the building and you won't see an NHL club
and a minor league club in the same building, especially since the NBA's
Milwaukee Bucks play there as well. | 10 | rec.sport.hockey |
I would like to sell some software. Shipping is $3 per order - 1 or more
games in the continental U.S. $6 to Canada. Contact me for shipping
to other locations.
Contraption Zack $20
Perfect condition. Unregistered & all docs/disks/packaging
A 3-D puzzle game with great animated graphics. Your tools for
fixing up a manufacturing plant are hidden throughout the levels
and you must solve puzzles to get the tools and then use the tools
to fix the machines. The levels are HUGE and span many screens.
The graphics are cartoony and humorous. (256 color VGA,MCGA,
AdLib,Soundblaster,Roland,3.5")
Legend of Kyrandia $30
Perfect condition. Unregistered & all docs/disks/packaging
An adventure where you are the unknowing heir to the throne of
the kingdom of Kyrandia. An evil jester has murdered your parents,
the king and queen, and attempted to take control of the kingdom,
only to be thwarted by a spell cast upon him by your grandfather
and three other magic users. You must travel to find each of the
magic users to gain use of an amulet that will help you to defeat
the jester. Beautiful graphics and a great soundtrack. (VGA,MCGA,
Adlib,Sound Blaster,SoundBlaster Pro,MT-32/LAPC-1,3.5")
Spirit of Excalibur by Virgin Mastertronic $15
Good condition. All docs/disks/packaging.
A fantasy game combining Role-Playing, adventure, and combat
simulation. You are the Heir to the throne of Britain after Arthur
has died. You must re-unite the land under your rule and then
defend it against an invading army from the north. (EGA, Tandy, MCGA,
VGA, Sound cards, 5.25")
Loom $15
Perfect condition. Unregistered & all docs/disks/packaging.
Received a Computer Gaming World Award for Artistic achievement.
An adventure game where you play the role of a young weaver of
musical spells. You must save your fellow weavers from oblivion
by traveling through the land, casting spells, learning new spells
befriending people you meet, and foiling an evil plot. All
point and click -- no typing. Every action in the game involves
casting your musical spells. (VGA,EGA,CGA,MCGA,TANDY,AdLib,CMS sound,
5.25")
Dark Seed $35
Perfect condition, used very little. Unregistered & all docs/disks/
packaging. An adventure based on the surrealistic and macabre
artwork of H.R. Giger -- the inspiration for Alien, Alien III, and
Poltergeist II. You have just bought an old victorian house
at a bargain in a secluded town. You find that there is a portal
to a dark, sinister world in your house and a plot against the
world as you know it. You must save yourself and your world from
a horrible fate. Gorgeous and Gory high resolution graphics.
(VGA,Adlib,SoundBlaster,3.5") | 6 | misc.forsale |
Yeah, but what's your point? You still need the offense to score more runs
than you allow, too.
The Braves do have a fine pitching staff. But that's still only half the
game. | 9 | rec.sport.baseball |
) The documentation says that Wordperfect for windows, requires 4 M of ram, but
)when I try to install it on my laptop I get a not enough memory error message.
)I've unloaded everything that I possibly could but still, NOT ENOUGH MEMORY.
)Anyone have any ideas as to why this might be happening. | 3 | comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
I was wondering if anyone had any kind of Fenway Park gif.
I would appreciate it if someone could send me one.
Thanks in advance. | 9 | rec.sport.baseball |
Hi there,
when I run Disk First Aid on my external hard drive (Quantum LPS 240) I get the followinf
message: Error -535: Missing thread record (TarID=31015; TarBlock 416)
Disk First Aid is not able to fix this problem, Norton Utils doesn't find it at all.
When I use Norton Disk editor to look at TarBlock 416 I can read something like "DirReservedArea"
My question: How can I get rid of this error (without reformatting of course)
| 4 | comp.sys.mac.hardware |
[much discussion about switching 5.25" and 3.5" drives removed]
Another (albeit strange) option is using a program like 800 II
(available via anonymous FTP at many major sites), or FDFORMAT
(also available via anonymous FTP), that allows you to format
5.25HD disks to 1.44Meg, or 3.5"HD disks to 1.2Meg (along with
many MANY other formats!) so you can DISKCOPY (yes, the broken
MeSsy-DOS DISKCOPY!) the 5.25" disks onto 3.5" disks or vice
versa... I use this techniques with "NON-DOS" self-booting
game disks on my old Tandy 1000, and it works... Another program
named Teledisk (shareware--available on many major BBS's) will
also make the weird format disks, provided you have 800 II
or FDFormat installed.... Some disks that won't DISKCOPY
properly can be readily Teledisk'd into the proper format...
At least this is a software solution for a hardware/BIOS
deficiency, eh?
--
Joseph Zbiciak [email protected]
[====Disclaimer--If you believe any of this, check your head!====]
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: Most, if not all, credit card companies offer to double the warranty up
: to one year, namely, if you make a purchase by a credit card, you get
: additional warranty up to one year. Does it apply to the purchase of
: computers? I wonder if anyone out there has used it. Is there any catch?
: Thanks in advance.
I am just about to post the results of my big computer purchase. One
of the key points was the ability to use my American Express card. I
read the fine print between double warranty policies of Amex and Citibank
VISA. Sure, both will allow you double warranty on computers, but Citibank
has a maximum claim of $250.00. Could you imagine trying to get your
monitor or mother board fixed for $250.00? Amex has NO limit on claims.
Remember, if you use Amex, you must either send a copy of the warranty info
to them in 30 days from purchase, or you must call them to pre-register and
then send them the paperwork within 90 days of purchase (my pre-register
pak arrived today). Citibank VISA requires no pre-registration. | 3 | comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
If you haven't heard yet, US Senator Patty Murrey, a Mom in
tennis shoes, is planning to introduce legislation to tax
all handgun transactions and increase dealer licnese costs in
order to raise money to cover the costs of un-insured shooting
victums. She plans to start with $2500.00 per year dealer fees
and $40.00 or so, depending on the type of firearm, per gun
transaction. She plans to make it federal.
She was elected in Washington state under the trade mark as
just a mom in tennis shoes. She can be written to via the
United States Senate, Washinton DC. She is looking for your
tennis shoes. So if you have a pair please send them to her
with your feelings regarding this tax.
She claims she has heard little from the opposition.
Lets inundate her!
| 16 | talk.politics.guns |
From article <[email protected]>, by [email protected] (Sabri T Atan):
There were a couple millions of Greeks living in Asia Minor until 1923.
Someone had to protect them. If not us who??
Compromise on what, the invasion of Cyprus, the involment of Turkey in
Greek politics, the refusal of Turkey to accept 12 miles of territorial
waters as stated by international law, the properties of the Greeks of
Konstantinople, the ownership of the islands in the Greek lake,sorry, Aegean.
There are some things on which there can not be a compromise.
Any person who supports the policies of the Turkish goverment directly or
indirecly is a "bad" person.
It is not your nationality that makes you bad, it is your support of the
actions of your goverment that make you "bad".
People do not hate you because of who you are but because of what you
are. You are a supporter of the policies of the Turkish goverment and
as a such you must pay the price.
You do not need brainwashing to turn people against the Turks. Just talk to
Greeks, Arabs, Slavs, Kurds and all other people who had the luck to be under
Turkish occupation.
They will talk to you about murders,rapes,distruction.
You do not learn about Turks from history books, you learn about them from
people who experienced first hand Turkish friendliness. | 17 | talk.politics.mideast |
500,000 to 1,000,000 self-defense incidents a YEAR doesn't count with you?
Maybe they're just UNLUCKY. If a rapist pulls a woman into an alley
in Boston, chances are almost certain that she won't be counted
as one of those self-defenders because our local constabulary didn't
consider it important that she be allowed to arm herself. Even though
the shotgun she owns at home makes her show up in the "gun owner" column.
Ironic words for somebody who lives in Florida. The "average threat
level" in Florida has been REDUCED by a liberal CCW policy. It's well
known that your local thugs like to target tourists precisely because
they are less likely to be carrying than your natives. Come on up to
Boston, or NYC, or Washington DC, and see how much diddlysquat the
"average threat level in the country" means to a resident there.
Sometimes this works. Sometimes it just lands your good neighbors
on the dance card for the next wave of drive-bys. Someone here once
told a story about LA gangs moving into Phoenix. I've misplaced the
original text, but the story started with one resident calling the
cops on a gang member. Sure enough, a few nights later, there was a
drive-by performed at the resident's house. Except that this time,
unlike in LA, the entire street came out and returned fire, putting
an end to the car's occupants. The gang packed up and left.
Of course, in LA, or in a place like Florida after the hurricane,
your first problem is to FIND an officer to step up to and tell
anything.
Look, nobody is arguing this. I have a fire extinguisher at home.
That doesn't mean I can be careless about tossing my burnt matches
on the carpet. I live carefully, monitor the woodstove, get my flue
cleaned twice a year, and test my smoke alarms annually. But if --
DESPITE all this -- a fire does start, it's too late for any of
these things EXCEPT the extinguisher.
You seem to be agreeing with your opponent. You can't trust your
government to protect you from abusers and violators -- white-collar,
blue-collar, epauletted, or tank-shirted. Ultimately, no one has the
power to enforce your "rights" but you. Unless you've given up that
power.
Too many people fit that category, that is true. Some of us like to
believe that they are uninterested in the facts behind the case for gun
ownership because they've been conditioned to believe that there AREN'T
any. You seem content to underestimate the electorate; I'm willing to
try to raise their consciousness.
I think we can.
HCI was founded in what, 1980? In the mid-80's, they ran a "One
Million Strong!" campaign for two years before reaching this goal.
My understanding is that they "reached" it by the stratagem of including
wide classes of people other than dues-paying members. (I can't speak
authoritatively on this -- maybe somebody else has details.) Then they
started running a "Two Million Strong!" campaign for a while -- but they
let it slip into unannounced obscurity when it became clear that they
simply were never going to reach that level of membership.
In 1964, just after the commencement of the Dodd Hearings -- the starting
point of the modern gun-control movement, the NRA had a mere 625,000 members.
By 1968, barely after the first murmurs of future registration, it had
about a million. Today, it has over three million members, making it the
third largest membership organization in the country (next to AARP and AAA).
And its membership is GROWING FASTER than at any previous time. (Historical
figures from Kukla's "Gun Control," pp. 61 and 420.)
As you say, many of the people in the middle of this debate are bemused
by their T-bones and MTV. That leaves hard-core gun-owners against
hard-core gun banners.
I know a number of ex-HCI members who have recently become NRA members.
I've never heard of a single one who has gone the other way.
Yes, I think we can and will win this one.
I think they would be used far less to hammer nails, as well, but,
like you, I can't give any citation showing that this utilization is
CURRENTLY significant at more than an anecdotal level. If you can,
I'm waiting.
-- | 16 | talk.politics.guns |
Clinton has backed off from the $16 billion jobs bill.
Word is he's paring it down to the core: jobless benefits, money for
creating full time jobs (ie, no summer jobs money).
Chalk one up for holding the line on spending. | 18 | talk.politics.misc |
Also, Alomar got a FAR greater boost from his home park than Baerga did from
his. And "six or seven home runs"? Hmm.
So, if you wanted to pick a second baseman to play in Toronto, you'd take
Alomar. Anywhere else, and you'd probably take Baerga.
Mike | 9 | rec.sport.baseball |
The 4-bit server should work fine. As far as I know, Xterminals
running older versions can run the latest apps as long as the host
machine has the R5 libraries installed. I could be wrong though.
--
[email protected] | 5 | comp.windows.x |
Careful now folks... Also consider the 90VAC+ @20Hz that is forced on ring
and tip when the phone's supposed to ring! Even with a simple zener
and LED setup, you might end up with some carbon real quick. Whatever
scheme you use, make sure you've got at least 200V-rated components on
the frontend.
Also remember that, if I'm not mistaken, the phone line is a 600ohm
equivalent circuit. Any current you draw from the 48V or so gets
dropped across that 600ohms. That's fine until you're down to roughly
12V, when Ma Bell considers it to be off-hook. But dropping it that
far down is probably a big no-no.
The easiest implementation to accomplish the above??
tip ------->|-----\/\/\/\-----+----------+
rectifier resistor | |
diode | \
V /
zener /---/ \ resistor
| /
| |
| V LED
| ---
| |
ring --------------------------+----------+
This is only a suggestion...go ahead and blow holes in it, but you
get the idea. Choose a high-efficiency LED so you don't need much
current to get it to light up. Choose values for the other components
as required. | 12 | sci.electronics |
Whether there is a "why" or not we have to find it. This is Pascal's(?) wager.
If there is no why and we spend our lives searching, then we have merely
wasted our lives, which were meaningless anyway. If there is a why and we
don't search for it, then we have wasted our potentially meaningful lives.
Suppose the universe is 5 billion years old, and suppose it lasts another
5 billion years. Suppose I live to be 100. That is nothing, that is so small
that it is scary. So by searching for the "why" along with my friends here
on earth if nothing else we aren't so scared.
What if you woke up at a party, with no memory, and everyone was discussing
who the host might be? There might not be a host, you say. I say let's go
find him, the party's going to be over sometime, maybe he'll let us stay.
Because we recognize our own mortality we have to find the "why".
This is a good point. But more of a good point for studying religion
than ignoring it. Some Christians disagree with me, but it is worthwhile
to study different religions and philosophies and glean the truth from
them. To quote (of course out of context) "Test everything and keep what is
true." | 15 | soc.religion.christian |
Not clear to me at all. I'd certainly rather have a team who was winning
4-1 games than 2-1 games. In the 2-1 game, luck is going to play a much
bigger role than in the 4-1 game. | 9 | rec.sport.baseball |
There are roughly 1200 fatal, firearms-related accidents each year.
The large majority involve rifles and shotgun; there are under 500
fatal handgun accidents each year. I really doubt all of those
occur while the pistol is holstered, so the number of "self-inflicted
gunshot wounds by people wearing thigh holsters" is probably
well under 250 per year.
Handguns designs have included a "hammer block" since around 1960
or earlier. This is a metal part which physically seperates
the cartridge and the firing pin: Even under impact, the gun
cannot fire. The hammer block is connected to the trigger and
is pulled out of the way as the trigger is pulled. As a result,
modern pistols can fire _only_ if the trigger is pulled (or
in some cases, if they are cocked by hand and then dropped.)
I don't know about animal attacks, but there are 23,500 murders
each year and under 500 die in the manner you suggest. If only
2.1% of the murders were killings by "wacko"s, you would be
wrong. Worse, there are also 102,500 rapes and 1,055,000 aggravated
assaults each year. These numbers make violent attacks, and
preventing them, thousands of times more significant than the
accidents you are worried about.
(These figures, by the way, are from the FBI's "Uniform Crime
Report" for 1990. I'll stop by a library tomorrow and look at
the "National Crime Victimization Survey", which is more
specific about where and when the crimes occured.) | 16 | talk.politics.guns |
There is this newsgroup sci.med.physics and there has been quite a lot
discussion in this group about many chemical items e.g. prolactin
cholesterol, TSH etc. Should there also be a newsgroup sci.med.chemistry?
| 13 | sci.med |
There was a recent discussion of Dungeons and Dragons and other role
playing games. Since there is a lot of crossover between gamers and
science fiction and fantasy fans, I will mention that I am the editor
and publisher of RADIO FREE THULCANRA, a Christian-oriented science
fiction fanzine. It is not a Christian magazine with a special
interest in science fiction. It is a science fiction fanzine with a
special interest in Christianity. Gaming is not a major topic of
discussion but it has come up in some letters. (No, there are no
arguments about whether D&D is satanic. People who think it is are
not likely to be reading RFT.) Anyway, I am now working on the April
issue. I will send a sample copy to any reader of
soc.religion.christian who requests it. It is printed on paper, so
requests should include a snail-mail address.
-------
Marty Helgesen
Bitnet: mnhcc@cunyvm Internet: [email protected] | 15 | soc.religion.christian |
Could someone please send me the postal and email address of
Congruent Corporation (and any competitors they may have).
Thank you.
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[email protected] | 5 | comp.windows.x |
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Written by:_____ _Book Title_; publisher'year, pp v2.7 ISBN
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John Brunner _Shockwave Rider_; Ray/Ballantine'84 $5_______ 0-345-32431-5
"cracking the net to free information for the common good"
Pat Cadigan _Mindplayers_; ("an absolute must-have" --Bruce Sterling)
Pat Cadigan _Synners_; Bantam $5; (virtual reality)_______ 0-553-28254-9
Orson Scott Card _Lost Boys_; Harper Collins'92; (programmer and family \
encounters strange events in North Carolina)
Denise Danks _Frame Grabber_; St.Martin's, hrdb [GBP]17____ 0-312-08786-1
computer-illiterate journalix tracks down murderer via BBS
Toni Dwiggins _Interrupt_; ("a techno-mystery set in Silicon Valley")
Michael Frayn _The Tin Men_; Fontana, ("inspired lunacy" but out of print)
David Gerrold _When HARLIE was One Release 2.0_; Bantam'88__ 0-553-26465-6
William Gibson _Count Zero_; (computers as gods, part of a trilogy)
William Gibson _Mona Lisa Overdrive_; (virtual reality)______ 0-553-28174-7
William Gibson _Burning Chrome_; (cyberpunk short stories)___ 0-441-08934-8
William Gibson _Neuromancer_; (industrial espionage)_________ 0-441-56959-5
(author guilty of inventing the cyberpunk genre)
James Hogan _The Genesis Machine_; Del Ray'87 $3__________ 0-345-34756-0
James Hogan _Thrice Upon A Time_; ("time travel for information")
James Hogan _The Two Faces of Tomorrow_; Del Ray'79_______ 0-345-27517-9
ultimate test of AI-OS by letting it run a spacelab -> amok
Stanislaw Lem _His Master's Voice_; (failed attempt to decode ET-message)
Tom Maddox _HALO_ ("remarkable SF of robots & artificial intelligence")
George RR Martin _Nightflyers_; Tor Books'87___________________ 0-8125-4564-8
R A MacAvoy _Tea with the Black Dragon_; ("mystery around a computer \
fraud situation; computing bits ring true.")
Vonda N McIntyre _Steelcollar Worker_; in Analog Nov'92; (blue-collar VR)
Marge Piercy _Body of Glass_; Penguin'92, 584pp; (data piracy++) review \
finger "books=Body_of_Glass%danny"@orthanc.cs.su.oz.au
---> David Pogue _Hard-Drive_; Diamond'93 $5, 304pp____________ 1-55773-884-X
(*programmer dies in accident, leaves no documentation \
behind; software firms fight for market share with virii; \
"right out of the pages of MacWorld" --Steve Brock)
Richard Powers _The Gold Bug Variations_; Morrow '91, (famous molecular \
scientist ponders on the ?why? of love, life in EDP dept.)
Paul Preuss _Human Error_; (nanotech computer infects brain-damaged kid)
Thomas J Ryan _The Adolescence of P1_; ACE'79_______________ 0-671-55970-2
(runaway AI experiment takes over mainframes, wrecks havoc)
Bruce Sterling _The Difference Engine_; (with W Gibson) Bantam'91; finger \
"books=The_Difference_Engine%danny"@orthanc.cs.su.oz.au
Cliff Stoll _The Cuckoo's Egg_; (non-fiction but reads like one); review
FTP <garbo.uwasa.fi>; /mac/tidbits/1991/tb048_18-Mar-91.etx
Tom T Thomas _ME_; ("smart computers")
Vernor Vinge _Across Realtime_; Baen Books_____________ [several titles \
Vernor Vinge _Tatja Grimm's World_; Baen Books__________ soon available \
Vernor Vinge _The Witling_; Baen Books___________________ as Millennium \
Vernor Vinge _Threats and Other Promises_; Baen Books_____ Books in UK]
Vernor Vinge _True Names & Other Dangers_; Baen Books'87___ 0-671-65363-6
Vernor Vinge _A Fire Upon The Deep_; Tor Books, 640p, $6___ 0-8125-1528-5
("essentially about the future of the Internet")
John Varley _Press Enter_; ("Short story, gruesome, but good")
Ed Yourdon _Silent Witness_; ("Computer crime caper story; gumshoe \
has to explain intricacies of computer OS to girlfriend")
Herbert W Franke _Das Zentrum der Milchstrasse_; ("the center of the galaxy")
Herbert W Franke _Letzte Programmierer_; ("'the last programmer'; \
I do NOT mean Frank Herbert!")
Emil Zopfi _Computer Fuer 1001 Nacht_; Limmat Verlag, Switzerland
Emil Zopfi _Jede Minute Kostet 33 Franken_; (last 4 in German; last 2 \
"set in the commercial computing world of the early 70's")
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| 5 _The Adolescence of P-1_; Ryan | Vinge 10 6 titles |
| 5 _Neuromancer_; Gibson | Gibson 10 5 titles |
| 4 _True Names and Other Dangers_; Vinge | Ryan 5 _The Adolescence..|
| 4 _Shockwave Rider_; Brunner | Brunner 4 _Shockwave Rider_ |
| 4 _When H.A.R.L.I.E was One_; Gerrold | Gerrold 4 _When H.A.R.L.I.E.|
| 4 _A Fire Upon The Deep_; Vinge | Hogan 3 3 titles |
| 2 _Threats and Other Promises_; Vinge | Lem 3 _Fiasco_HMV_Solar.|
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| # total nominations: 85; authors: 27; female: 5?6; sent in by: 42 readers |
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From: [email protected] (Steve Brock)
From: "John Lacey" <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Sean Malloy)
From: thom kevin gillespie <[email protected]>
From: Paul Christopher Workman <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Kelly Sorensen)
From: [email protected] (William W. Hughes)
From: [email protected] (Tim North)
From: [email protected] (Maurizio Loreti)
From: Stephen Hart <[email protected]>
From: Duane F Marble <[email protected]>
From: Matthias Neeracher <[email protected]>
From: Wolfram Wagner <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Peter Webb)
From: [email protected] (Thomas Setzer)
From: [email protected] (Beth Kevles)
From: [email protected] (Jeff DelPapa)
From: [email protected] (Roger Squires)
From: [email protected] (Richard Hartman)
From: Vernor Vinge <vinge%[email protected]>
From: Paul Lebeau <[email protected]>
From: "Lawrence Rounds" <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (David Weingart)
From: [email protected] (By learning+courtesy)
From: Rowan Fairgrove <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Peter Chubb,x114,6982322,3982735)
From: Gara Pruesse <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Russell Schulz)
From: [email protected] (Andreas Meyer)
From: [email protected] (Jon Jacky)
From: [email protected] (Eugene N. Miya)
From: "A.M.MAIR" <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Marc Mengel)
From: Roger Scowen <[email protected]>
From: [email protected] (Kevin Oster -- System Administrator)
From: [email protected] (Darrah Chavey)
From: Vonda McIntyre <[email protected]>
From: Bruce Sterling <[email protected]>
From: "Scott Thomas Yabiku" <[email protected]>
From: Thomas Adshead <[email protected]>
From: Paul Andrews <[email protected]>
===== ======================================= ---------> MUCHO thanks to all!
| 1 | comp.graphics |
1992-93 Los Angeles Kings notes.
--------------------------------
Playoffs:
---------
*Stauber disturbed by third-man theme
by Rick Sadowski, Daily News
Barry Melrose's decision to stick Robb Stauber in the stands rather than in the
crease or even on the bench for the Stanley Cup playoffs does not sit well with
the rookie goaltender.
"I want to be a part of the team at the most crucial time of the year, the most
fun time of the year, and I'm not," Stauber said with some emotion Monday. "I
think I have worked hard enough for that."
Stauber said he accepts Melrose's choice of Kelly Hrudey as the teams top goalie
in their playoff series with the Calgary Flames. Hrudey made 21 saves in Sundays
6-3 opening victory.
But Stauber clearly is upset with his sudden status as the No. 3 man behind Rick
Knickle. Stauber had a 4-1-2 record and 2.98 goals-against average down the
stretch in the regular season and nearly wrestled the No. 1 job from Hrudey.
Knickle? He won 2 of 3 decisions but had a bloated 5.26 average, twice was
yanked from games (once for stomach cramps) and hasn't played since March 29.
Yet, when the series resumes Wednesday, Knickle will serve as Hrudey's backup
again and Stauber will have to satisfy his playoff hunger by munching on Olympic
Saddledome popcorn.
"If I'm supposedly close to being the starter or could have been the starter...I
dropped too. 3. What happened to No. 2?" Stauber wondered. "Not that I'd be
happy with No. 2, but I feel I should at least be a part of this team in the
playoffs."
Perhaps Stauber eventually will get his chance, but Melrose apparently is not
convinced the 25-year old is capable of handling playoff pressure.
While insisting he is the Kings' "goalie of the future," Melrose said Stauber
flubbed all four of the big games he was asked to win this season. They were,
according to Melrose: a 7-2 loss to San Jose on Dec. 26; An 8-3 loss to the New
York Rangers on Jan. 23; a 6-6 tie with Detroit on Feb. 11; an 8-6 loss to
Vancouver on Thursday.
"Four times this season Robb could have emerged as the elite goalie, he could
have taken it away from Kelly Hrudey, and he didn't do it," Melrose said. "An
elite goaltender has to carry the ball when you give it to him. The mark of a
great goalie is that he isn't satisfied to be a backup."
"I'm not blaming Robb for the losses, but if you're going to be No. 1, you've
got to be able to walk your talk. You've got to be able to play when everything
is on the line. Robb Stauber has a great deal of ability, but maybe I expect
more from him than he does."
Ouch. That remark stung Stauber. He began the season 9-0-1, struggled when the
team hit a mid-season slump, didn't play for a month after Knickle was signed
off the San Diego Gulls roster, then came on at the end.
"I expect more from myself than anybody, including Barry Melrose," said Stauber,
a three-year star at the University of Minnesota who left school in 1989, only
to have his development hampered by a string of serious injuries.
"What I've been through the last four years - two knee operations, a herniated
disk in my back, shoulder surgery - what more can I go through? I obviously do
expect a lot from myself, otherwise I wouldn't be here."
"Anybody who would disagree with that doesn't know me. I'm not saying Barry
doesn't know me, but don't say I've been without expectations. If anything, I'm
a perfectionist."
Stauber acknowledged he played poorly in the four games Melrose mentioned. "But
even though I didn't play well, I get knocked down from maybe on to three? It's
a bit of a jump," he said. "You're almost No. 1, or if you play a good game
you're No. 1 and if you don't you're No. 3? Why does Jack Nicklaus shoot a 67
and then a 75? Can you explain that? That's what barry wanted me to explain
to him, why I didn't come through when he counted on me. I don't know. What I
do know is, it's a sport. I'll be there."
Melrose's "goalie of the future" statement doesn't mean much to Stauber. "Before
you know it, I'll be 30 and there will be no future," he said.
------
*Game 1 of the Kings @ Flames playoff series drew a 4.2 Nielsen rating on ABC
Channel 7 here in LA. The Kings averaged a 2.1 Nielsen rating in the 10 regular
season games aired on Channel 5.
Around the NHL:
---------------
*San Jose fired Coach George Kingston, who lead the team to a 11-71-2 mark in
their 2nd NHL season. Kingston was 28-129-7 over the past 2 years with the
Sharks.
------
*Former Islander executive Bill Torrey was named as President of the expansion
Florida Panthers. Bobby Clarke was named as the clubs General Manager.
*Last nights games:
-------------------
WIN 2 @ VAN 4 (VAN leads 1-0)
TOR 3 @ DET 6 (DET leads 1-0)
===============================================================================
Stan Willis ([email protected])
net contact: L.A. Kings | 10 | rec.sport.hockey |
Read this through once or twice. Then replace "prince" with
"government" or "president", as appropriate, and read it again.
[From Chapter XX of _The Prince_, by N. Macchiavelli, as translated by
Daniel Donno.]
In order to keep their lands secure, some princes have
disarmed their subjects; others have prompted division within the
cities they have subjugated. Some have nurtured animosities against
themselves; others have sought to win the approval of those they
initially distrusted. Some have erected fortresses; others have
destroyed them. Now, although it is impossible to set down definite
judgements on all of these measures without considering the particular
circumstances of the states where they may be employed, I shall
nevertheless discuss them in such broad terms as the subject itself
will allow.
To begin with, there has never been a case of a new prince
disarming his subjects. Indeed, whenever he found them disarmed, he
proceeded to arm them. For by arming your subjects, you make their
arms your own. Those among them who are suspicious become loyal,
while those who are already loyal remain so, and from subjects they
are transformed into partisans. Though you cannot arm them all,
nonetheless you increase your safety among those you leave unarmed by
extending privileges to those you arm. Your different treatment of
the two categories will make the latter feel obligated to you, while
the former will consider it proper thoat those who assume added duties
and dangers should receive advantages.
When you disarm your subjects, however, you offend them, by
showing that, either from cowardliness or from lack of faith, you
distrust them; and either conclusion will induce them to hate you.
Moreover, since it is impossible for you to remain unarmed, you would
have to resort to mercenaries, whose limitations have already been
discussed. Even if such troops were good, however, they could never be
good enough to defend you from powerful enemies, and doubtful
subjects. Therefore, as I have said, a new prince in a newly acquired
state has always taken measures to arm his subjects, and history is
full of examples proving that this is so.
But when a prince takes posession of a new state which he
annexes as an addition to his original domain, then he must disarm all
the subjects of the new state except those who helped him to acquire
it; and these, as time and occasion permit, he must seek to render
soft and weak. He must arrange matters in such a way that the arms of
the entire state will be in the hands of soldiers who are native to
his original domain.
... | 11 | sci.crypt |
No, VGALIB? Amazing.. I guess it was lost in all those subdirs :-)
Thanks for correcting me. It doesn't sound very appealing though, only
320x200? I'm glad it wasn't something major I missed. | 1 | comp.graphics |
Well, let me see. UZI, no. M-11/9, no. M-16/AR-15, maybe. I remember there
being a selector swtich on the AR-15. If I remember correctly (please correct
me if I'm wrong) the switch would set to an "off" position or an "on" position
because the gun (AR-15) is semi-automatic. Wouldn't the M-16 have a position
for semi-auto fire and full-auto fire (or maybe 3 round bursts)? If this is
correct wouldn't it be easy to distinguish each gun by this alone? Of course
if the AR-15 were modified to full-auto fire I wouldn't think it would be that
easy but I'm talking about distinguishing between an unmodified AR-15 and M-16.
How about the other guns? Do they also have selector switch to switch between
semi-auto and fully-auto fire?
Actually it was pretty hard for the kids in my neighborhood to figure that out
as Richard Petty lived in my neighborhood and left his stock car in the
driveway. ;-)
Well, what about what I said above? If that is correct I guess TV would be
acceptable (if you had a good enough picture and a picture of the lower
receiver of the AR-15/M-16). | 16 | talk.politics.guns |
It looks like Dorothy Denning's wrong-headed ideas have gotten to the
Administration even sooner than we feared. It's time to make sure they
hear the other side of the story, and hear it loudly!
Phil
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Note: This file will also be available via anonymous file
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via the NIST Computer Security BBS at 301-948-5717.
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THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
_________________________________________________________________
For Immediate Release April 16, 1993
STATEMENT BY THE PRESS SECRETARY
The President today announced a new initiative that will bring
the Federal Government together with industry in a voluntary
program to improve the security and privacy of telephone
communications while meeting the legitimate needs of law
enforcement.
The initiative will involve the creation of new products to
accelerate the development and use of advanced and secure
telecommunications networks and wireless communications links.
For too long there has been little or no dialogue between our
private sector and the law enforcement community to resolve the
tension between economic vitality and the real challenges of
protecting Americans. Rather than use technology to accommodate
the sometimes competing interests of economic growth, privacy and
law enforcement, previous policies have pitted government against
industry and the rights of privacy against law enforcement.
Sophisticated encryption technology has been used for years to
protect electronic funds transfer. It is now being used to
protect electronic mail and computer files. While encryption
technology can help Americans protect business secrets and the
unauthorized release of personal information, it also can be used
by terrorists, drug dealers, and other criminals.
A state-of-the-art microcircuit called the "Clipper Chip" has
been developed by government engineers. The chip represents a
new approach to encryption technology. It can be used in new,
relatively inexpensive encryption devices that can be attached to
an ordinary telephone. It scrambles telephone communications
using an encryption algorithm that is more powerful than many in
commercial use today.
This new technology will help companies protect proprietary
information, protect the privacy of personal phone conversations
and prevent unauthorized release of data transmitted
electronically. At the same time this technology preserves the
ability of federal, state and local law enforcement agencies to
intercept lawfully the phone conversations of criminals.
A "key-escrow" system will be established to ensure that the
"Clipper Chip" is used to protect the privacy of law-abiding
Americans. Each device containing the chip will have two unique
2
"keys," numbers that will be needed by authorized government
agencies to decode messages encoded by the device. When the
device is manufactured, the two keys will be deposited separately
in two "key-escrow" data bases that will be established by the
Attorney General. Access to these keys will be limited to
government officials with legal authorization to conduct a
wiretap.
The "Clipper Chip" technology provides law enforcement with no
new authorities to access the content of the private
conversations of Americans.
To demonstrate the effectiveness of this new technology, the
Attorney General will soon purchase several thousand of the new
devices. In addition, respected experts from outside the
government will be offered access to the confidential details of
the algorithm to assess its capabilities and publicly report
their findings.
The chip is an important step in addressing the problem of
encryption's dual-edge sword: encryption helps to protect the
privacy of individuals and industry, but it also can shield
criminals and terrorists. We need the "Clipper Chip" and other
approaches that can both provide law-abiding citizens with access
to the encryption they need and prevent criminals from using it
to hide their illegal activities. In order to assess technology
trends and explore new approaches (like the key-escrow system),
the President has directed government agencies to develop a
comprehensive policy on encryption that accommodates:
-- the privacy of our citizens, including the need to
employ voice or data encryption for business purposes;
-- the ability of authorized officials to access telephone
calls and data, under proper court or other legal
order, when necessary to protect our citizens;
-- the effective and timely use of the most modern
technology to build the National Information
Infrastructure needed to promote economic growth and
the competitiveness of American industry in the global
marketplace; and
-- the need of U.S. companies to manufacture and export
high technology products.
The President has directed early and frequent consultations with
affected industries, the Congress and groups that advocate the
privacy rights of individuals as policy options are developed.
3
The Administration is committed to working with the private
sector to spur the development of a National Information
Infrastructure which will use new telecommunications and computer
technologies to give Americans unprecedented access to
information. This infrastructure of high-speed networks
("information superhighways") will transmit video, images, HDTV
programming, and huge data files as easily as today's telephone
system transmits voice.
Since encryption technology will play an increasingly important
role in that infrastructure, the Federal Government must act
quickly to develop consistent, comprehensive policies regarding
its use. The Administration is committed to policies that
protect all Americans' right to privacy while also protecting
them from those who break the law.
Further information is provided in an accompanying fact sheet.
The provisions of the President's directive to acquire the new
encryption technology are also available.
For additional details, call Mat Heyman, National Institute of
Standards and Technology, (301) 975-2758.
- - ---------------------------------
QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ABOUT THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION'S
TELECOMMUNICATIONS INITIATIVE
Q: Does this approach expand the authority of government
agencies to listen in on phone conversations?
A: No. "Clipper Chip" technology provides law enforcement with
no new authorities to access the content of the private
conversations of Americans.
Q: Suppose a law enforcement agency is conducting a wiretap on
a drug smuggling ring and intercepts a conversation
encrypted using the device. What would they have to do to
decipher the message?
A: They would have to obtain legal authorization, normally a
court order, to do the wiretap in the first place. They
would then present documentation of this authorization to
the two entities responsible for safeguarding the keys and
obtain the keys for the device being used by the drug
smugglers. The key is split into two parts, which are
stored separately in order to ensure the security of the key
escrow system.
Q: Who will run the key-escrow data banks?
A: The two key-escrow data banks will be run by two independent
entities. At this point, the Department of Justice and the
Administration have yet to determine which agencies will
oversee the key-escrow data banks.
Q: How strong is the security in the device? How can I be sure
how strong the security is?
A: This system is more secure than many other voice encryption
systems readily available today. While the algorithm will
remain classified to protect the security of the key escrow
system, we are willing to invite an independent panel of
cryptography experts to evaluate the algorithm to assure all
potential users that there are no unrecognized
vulnerabilities.
Q: Whose decision was it to propose this product?
A: The National Security Council, the Justice Department, the
Commerce Department, and other key agencies were involved in
this decision. This approach has been endorsed by the
President, the Vice President, and appropriate Cabinet
officials.
Q: Who was consulted? The Congress? Industry?
A: We have on-going discussions with Congress and industry on
encryption issues, and expect those discussions to intensify
as we carry out our review of encryption policy. We have
briefed members of Congress and industry leaders on the
decisions related to this initiative.
Q: Will the government provide the hardware to manufacturers?
A: The government designed and developed the key access
encryption microcircuits, but it is not providing the
microcircuits to product manufacturers. Product
manufacturers can acquire the microcircuits from the chip
manufacturer that produces them.
Q: Who provides the "Clipper Chip"?
A: Mykotronx programs it at their facility in Torrance,
California, and will sell the chip to encryption device
manufacturers. The programming function could be licensed
to other vendors in the future.
Q: How do I buy one of these encryption devices?
A: We expect several manufacturers to consider incorporating
the "Clipper Chip" into their devices.
Q: If the Administration were unable to find a technological
solution like the one proposed, would the Administration be
willing to use legal remedies to restrict access to more
powerful encryption devices?
A: This is a fundamental policy question which will be
considered during the broad policy review. The key escrow
mechanism will provide Americans with an encryption product
that is more secure, more convenient, and less expensive
than others readily available today, but it is just one
piece of what must be the comprehensive approach to
encryption technology, which the Administration is
developing.
The Administration is not saying, "since encryption
threatens the public safety and effective law enforcement,
we will prohibit it outright" (as some countries have
effectively done); nor is the U.S. saying that "every
American, as a matter of right, is entitled to an
unbreakable commercial encryption product." There is a
false "tension" created in the assessment that this issue is
an "either-or" proposition. Rather, both concerns can be,
and in fact are, harmoniously balanced through a reasoned,
balanced approach such as is proposed with the "Clipper
Chip" and similar encryption techniques.
Q: What does this decision indicate about how the Clinton
Administration's policy toward encryption will differ from
that of the Bush Administration?
A: It indicates that we understand the importance of encryption
technology in telecommunications and computing and are
committed to working with industry and public-interest
groups to find innovative ways to protect Americans'
privacy, help businesses to compete, and ensure that law
enforcement agencies have the tools they need to fight crime
and terrorism.
Q: Will the devices be exportable? Will other devices that use
the government hardware? | 11 | sci.crypt |
As promised, I spoke today with the company mentioned in a Washington
Times article about the Clipper chip announcement. The name of the company
is Secure Communicatiions Technology (Information will be given at the end
of this message on how to contact them).
Basically they are disturbed about the announcement for many reasons that
we are. More specifically however, Mr. Bryen of Secure Communications
brought to light many points that might interest most of the readers.
His belief is that AT&T was made known of the clipper well before the
rest of the industry. This is for several reasons, several of which are:
- A company of AT&T's size could never be able to make a decision to use
the new chip on the SAME DAY it was announced.
- Months ago they proposed using their own chip for AT&T's secure telephone
devices. AT&T basically blew them off as being not interested at all.
This stuck them as strange, until now...
Also I spoke with Art Melnick, their cryptographer, he expressed several
concerns over the new Clipper Chip:
- The obvious backdoor will be able to let many people decrypt the code.
- Once the key is released to authorities the security of the crypto
system is lost forever. These keys can end up in the hands of any agency
of the government.
- The fact that the escrowed keys never change means that the algorithm
is vulnerable over time to an attacker.
- The classified algorithm may hide another backdoor. But he feels that
it is probably to keep people from forging fake serial numbers, or
changing the keys themselves.
- Additionally he feels that the NSA has probably spent enough time and
money in working on a way to keep this chip from being reversed
engineered, that he feels that reverse engineering it will be very
difficult to do. He feels that they have developed a suitable technique
to protect the chip from this attack. Also he feels that the chip is
hardware encoded with the algorithm and not microcoded onto the chip.
Additonally I spoke with Mr. Melnick about their algorithm. He couldn't tell
me much about their new agorithm because it hasn't been patented yet.
However he told me a little:
- The algorithm will be released for public review after patents have been
granted for it. This is so the crypto community can see that it is
secure.
- The algorithm is called NEA for New Encryption Algorithm.
The details were sketchy because now it is held as a trade secret
until the patent was issued, but I was told that it will incorporate
the following:
- It will have fast encryption of data (Exact specs not given, but
Mr. Melnick stated "Much faster than what an RS-232 can put out.")
- It is a symmetric cipher, just like IDEA and DES.
- It will use 64 bit data blocks for encryption (like DES and IDEA).
- The key length was not given to me, but Mr. Melnick states that
it is _adujustable_ and is "More than adequate for security."
- The algorithm is written in C and Assembler in software form, and
can be ported to many platforms (Unlike the the Clipper Chip which
is hardware ONLY and cannot be made into software) This I
consider a definite plus for the NEA for widespread use.
- The algorithm will accomodate public key distribution techniques
such as RSA or Diffie-Hellman. This will also be supported in the
hardware chip.
- Right now the projected cost of the NEA chip will be about 10 dollars
for each!! (Clipper will run 25 each chip [that is if it is produced
enough, which probably won't happen]).
- They currently sell a program called C-COM that uses the algorithm
and a special streaming protocol that does not divide the encrypted
data into "blocks." This could prevent plaintext attacks if you know
what the block header is. This program operates at all supported
RS-232 speeds and uses the software implementation of the algorithm.
- Most importantly: IT DOES NOT HAVE A BACKDOOR!!
Right now the company is afraid that the new clipper chip will put them out
of business. This is a very real possibility. So they really need help in
stopping the clipper chip from becoming a standard. If you want to contact
them, they can be reached at..
Secure Communications Technology
8700 Georgia Ave. Suite 302
Silver Spring, MD
(301) 588-2200
I talked to Mr. Bryen who represents the company. He can answer any
questions you have.
Any factual errors occurring in this write up are my own and I apologize for
them ahead of time.
| 11 | sci.crypt |
Let us not forget about the genocide of the Azeri people in 'Karabag'
and x-Soviet Armenia by the Armenians. Between 1914 and 1920, Armenians
committed unheard-of crimes, resorted to all conceivable methods of
despotism, organized massacres, poured petrol over babies and burned
them, raped women and girls in front of their parents who were bound
hand and foot, took girls from their mothers and fathers and appropriated
personal property and real estate. And today, they put Azeris in the most
unbearable conditions any other nation had ever known in history.
AREF SADIKOV sat quietly in the shade of a cafe-bar on the
Caspian Sea esplanade of Baku and showed a line of stitches in
his trousers, torn by an Armenian bullet as he fled the town of
Hojali just over three months ago, writes Hugh Pope.
"I'm still wearing the same clothes, I don't have any others,"
the 51-year-old carpenter said, beginning his account of the
Hojali disaster. "I was wounded in five places, but I am lucky to
be alive."
Mr Sadikov and his wife were short of food, without electricity
for more than a month, and cut off from helicopter flights for 12
days. They sensed the Armenian noose was tightening around the
2,000 to 3,000 people left in the straggling Azeri town on the
edge of Karabakh.
"At about 11pm a bombardment started such as we had never heard
before, eight or nine kinds of weapons, artillery, heavy
machine-guns, the lot," Mr Sadikov said.
Soon neighbours were pouring down the street from the direction
of the attack. Some huddled in shelters but others started
fleeing the town, down a hill, through a stream and through the
snow into a forest on the other side.
To escape, the townspeople had to reach the Azeri town of Agdam
about 15 miles away. They thought they were going to make it,
until at about dawn they reached a bottleneck between the two
Armenian villages of Nakhchivanik and Saderak.
"None of my group was hurt up to then ... Then we were spotted by
a car on the road, and the Armenian outposts started opening
fire," Mr Sadikov said.
Azeri militiamen fighting their way out of Hojali rushed forward
to force open a corridor for the civilians, but their efforts
were mostly in vain. Mr Sadikov said only 10 people from his
group of 80 made it through, including his wife and militiaman
son. Seven of his immediate relations died, including his
67-year-old elder brother.
"I only had time to reach down and cover his face with his hat,"
he said, pulling his own big flat Turkish cap over his eyes. "We
have never got any of the bodies back."
The first groups were lucky to have the benefit of covering fire.
One hero of the evacuation, Alif Hajief, was shot dead as he
struggled to change a magazine while covering the third group's
crossing, Mr Sadikov said.
Another hero, Elman Memmedov, the mayor of Hojali, said he and
several others spent the whole day of 26 February in the bushy
hillside, surrounded by dead bodies as they tried to keep three
Armenian armoured personnel carriers at bay.
As the survivors staggered the last mile into Agdam, there was
little comfort in a town from which most of the population was
soon to flee.
"The night after we reached the town there was a big Armenian
rocket attack. Some people just kept going," Mr Sadikov said. "I
had to get to the hospital for treatment. I was in a bad way.
They even found a bullet in my sock."
Victims of war: An Azeri woman mourns her son, killed in the
Hojali massacre in February (left). Nurses struggle in primitive
conditions (centre) to save a wounded man in a makeshift
operating theatre set up in a train carriage. Grief-stricken
relatives in the town of Agdam (right) weep over the coffin of
another of the massacre victims. Calculating the final death toll
has been complicated because Muslims bury their dead within 24
hours.
Photographs: Liu Heung / AP
Frederique Lengaigne / Reuter
THE INDEPENDENT, London, 12/6/'92
Serdar Argic | 17 | talk.politics.mideast |
AL>> Question: Is there a certain device out there that I can
AL>> use to find out the number to the line?
AL>> Thanks for any response.
AL>> Al
AL>There is a number you can call which will return a synthesized
AL>voice telling you the number of the line. Unfortunately, for the
AL>life of me I can't remember what it is. The telephone technicians
AL>use it all the time. We used to play around with this in our
AL>dorm rooms since there were multiple phone lines running between
AL>rooms.
It probably wouldn't help for you to post the number, since it appears
to be different in each area. For what it's worth, in the New Orleans
area the number is 998-877-6655 (easy to remember, what?)
* SLMR 2.1 * Ask me anything: if I don't know, I'll make up something.
| 12 | sci.electronics |
One thing that everyone is forgetting in this argument
over the pricing of the SC1 vs. the Japanese cars is
the Saturns "no-dicker sticker". This makes the Saturn's
price low in comparison to the inflated base prices of
the Japanese competition on paper, but in reality, one
could dicker several hundred dollars off the price of
the Japanese cars.
Admittedly, though, here in Canada, at least, the SC2
is in the same price class as the Civic Si, not the
SC1. | 7 | rec.autos |
I would like to apologize for the typos in the previous post.
In retrospect I would also like to quote another source: Douglas C.
Haldeman from his 1991 book _Homosexuality_
THERAPY INEFFECTIVE
Recently the founders of yet another prominent "ex-gay" ministry, Exodus
International, denounced their conversion therapy procedures as ineffective.
Michael Busse and Gary Cooper, cofounders of Exodus International and lovers
for 13 years, were involved with the organization from 1976 to 1979. The
program was described by these men as "ineffective . . . not one person was
healed." They stated that the program often exacerbated already prominent
feelings of guilt and personal failure among the counselees; many were
driven to suicidal thoughts as a result of the failed "reparative therapy."
The previous article quoted in the last posting is from THE ADVOCATE, June
30, 1992 called "The Ex-Ex-Gay" by Robert Pela.
Some personal thoughts:
It is of no great astonishment that there is a concerted effort by a major
portion of the Church to control and mandate change of a minority among
its ranks. This was the momentum behind the Spanish Inquisition, only all
they required was a confession of faith (after much torture) and then, to
save their souls they would dispatch them to heaven through death. Even
later, the Bible was used vigorously to defend slavery, oppression and
segragation of African-Americans, even to the justification of lynchings.
Today's scholars are just a bit more slick in their approach. The tool is
still coersion, but now it is mostly by means of brainwashing and mind
control, convincing people that they should see themselves as less than
God sees them, then maintaining a cultic hold on them until it is felt
thier mind-conditioning is complete. Sure, no one is "physically" forced
to stay in this "reparative therapy" but sheer social pressure is enough for
many to keep themselves in this new found bondage of self-hate.
As an abolitionist I advocate the abolishment of oppression and persecution
against gays in all facets of civil life. A person should be judged by
the contibution, or non-contribution to the society in which they live,
not by some high-brow standard of conformity imposed by those who haven';t
a clue what is in their heart.
For those who seek more information about Gays and groups that accept them
please contact your nearest chapter of PFLAG (Parents & Friends of Lesbians
And Gays) who will be more than happy to assist you. This is a group of
people comprised of Gays, Lesbians and Bisexuals, their parents and friends
who have formed a support group for help and understanding. Try talking to
a parent of a gay son or daughter and learn some "first-hand" real life and
loving understanding. God's love and understanding for Gay people is no
less abundant. | 19 | talk.religion.misc |
Bill says ...
I presume the one you refer to is "Space Sailing" by Jerome L. Wright. He
worked on solar sails while at JPL and as CEO of General Astronautics. I'll
furnish ordering info upon request.
The Friedman book is called "Starsailing: Solar Sails and Interstellar Travel."
It was available from the Planetary Society a few years ago, I don't know if
it still is. | 14 | sci.space |
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Gimme a break. CAPITAL letters, or NOT, the above is pure nonsense. It
seems to me that short sighted Armenians are escalating the hostilities
while hoping that Turkey will stay out. Stop and think for a moment,
will you? Armenia doesn't need anyone to drag her into the conflict, it
is a part of it.
Huh? You didn't expect Azeri's to be friendly to forces fighting with them
within their borders?
[...]
You're not playing with a full deck, are you? Where would Turkey invade?
Are you throwing the Cyprus buzzword around with s.c.g. in the header
in hopes that the Greek netters will jump the gun? Yes indeed Turkey
has the military prowess to intervene, what she wishes she had, however, is
the diplomatic power to stop the hostilities and bring the parties to the
negotiating table. That's hard to do when Armenians are attacking Azeri
towns. Armenian leaders are lacking the statesmanship to recognize the
futility of armed conflict and convince their nation that a compromise that
leads to stability is much better than a military faits accomplis that's
going to cause incessant skirmishes. Think of 10 or 20 years down the
line -- both of the newly independent countries need to develop economically
and neither one is going to wipe the other out. These people will be
neighbors, would it not be better to keep the bad blood between them minimal?
If you belong to the Armenian diaspora, keep in mind that what strikes
your fancy on the map is costing the local Armenians dearly in terms of their
blood and future. It's easy to be comfortable abroad and propagandize
craziness to have your feelings about Turks tickled. The Armenians
in Armenia and N-K will be there, with the same people you seem to hate
as their neighbors, for maybe 3000 years more. The sooner there's peace in
the region the better it is for them and everyone else. I'd push for
compromise if I were you instead of hitting the caps-lock and spreading
inflammatory half-truths.
cheers, | 17 | talk.politics.mideast |
I own an 80386sx, 16Mhz, 2Mb ram machine and am finding it too slow for
certain games such as X-wing. I was in a Computer store there the other
day and saw a series of Gamecards which claim to speed up your machine
to up to 80Mhz! I was wondering if anyone out there who has a similar
machine had bought one or seen one of these Gamecards and whether or not
they do actually work!
Any help here would be much appreciated,
Thanks in advance,
Greg.
-- | 3 | comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
Awww, right, you want all the home mechanics lined up against a wall and
shot eh?
Bull Pucky you chicken! Read the service manual and get your head out of the
sand! Certainly there are tools for the job that are cheaper than an alignment
rack, that do the job as competently (albeit, not as swiftly), if not
more accurate, due to the natural pride an owner/mechanic places on his work.
You can do an `acceptable' job of aligning a car using simple tools and
some imaginative work that would *never* have the effect of endangering
anyones life. The worst that happens is that your tires wear oddly (well,
you could have the wheels aiming TOTALLY pigeon toed and not be able
to steer the car, raise your hands those that think their vision is
so poor that they would screw up this badly!)
I bet you are one of those people that feels that honing a cylinder wall
with sand paper will kill millions of people. It aint magic. Go take the
certification course, and look at the people that have never learned to add
in their whole life that are taking the certification!
BTW, I am disgusted at the Colt (and some of the other Chrysler offerings)
because they go out of alignment if you sneaze at them. My '84 Chrysler
Laser (Similar to the Daytona, a reskinned Colt) needed a realignment every
3 months ... Bolt a good grade 12' 2x4 to each wheel, using a carefully welded
spacer jig. Measure toe in, adjust to manufacturer specs. Camber a bit more
difficult to adjust and measure ... I used a micrometer to measure the
space between the rim and a funky bent up pipe that could be placed on
upper and lower portions of the rim on the inside of wheel (hard to explain).
This same tool could be used instead of the 2x4s. I had made these tools up
*right* after the last alignment done professionally so I had a reference that
the original poster might not ... | 7 | rec.autos |
^^^
If french is your language, try counting in french in stead, maybe
it will work better.... :-) | 1 | comp.graphics |
The problem is with ISA bus-masters which
can only address the first 16MBs of system
memory. Bus-masters do not use the CPU
nor the system DMA to do the actual data
transfer but transfer their data directly
to the system RAM.
rp93 | 3 | comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
Are you trying to say that there were no massacres in Deir Yassin
or in Sabra and Shatila? If so then let me tell you some good jokes:
There is not and was not any such thing like jewish killing in WWII
Palestinians just did what Davidians did for fourty years and more.
In fact no one was killed in any war at any time or any place.
People die that is all. No one gets killed.
Maybe also vietamiese didn't die in Vietnam war killed by american
napalm they were just pyromaniacs and that's all.
Maybe jews just liked gas chambers and no one forced them to get in there.they
may be thought it was like snifing cocaine. No?
What do you think of this ? Isn't it stupid to say so?
Well it is as stupid as what you said .Next time you want to lie do it
intelligently.
Sincerely yours. | 17 | talk.politics.mideast |
7 | rec.autos |
|
Thanks to all those people who recommended Workspace managers for
Windows 3.1. I found 3 shareware Workspace Managers, from Australia's
MS-WINDOWS archive (monu6.cc.monash.edu.au), which mirrors some
sites in the U.S. The three I found were:
1. WORKSPACES 1.10 (wspace.zip)
This was the smallest and simplest
of the workspace managers that I found. It is very easy to use.
It displays a small window, containing 6 buttons, plus an extra
button for configuration purposes. One annoying feature was the
title window that is first presented when it is run - you must press
a key (not a mouse button!) for the thing to go away. Also, it would
have been nice if there was an "ALWAYS ON TOP" setting for the little
window containing the workspace buttons. Maybe some user-specified
strings on the buttons instead of the numbers one to six might be
a nice feature. The simplicity and ease of use of this workspace
manager makes it an attractive package.
2. WORKSHIFT 1.6 (wrksft16.zip)
While this workspace manager offered a
few features that WORKSPACES 1.10 lacked, it was quite time consuming
to set things up. With WORKSPACES 1.10, all but the first workspace
is initially empty. With WORKSHIFT 1.6, you need to take "snapshots"
of how you want each of your workspaces to look like - i.e. what
applications they contain. Also, the main window is quite large,
but this does allow you to have a small view of what is in each workspace.
With WORKSPACES 1.10, there was no facility for viewing what was in
a workspace without switching to it. WORKSHIFT 1.6 provides this
viewing functionality which is quite useful.
3. BIGDESK 2.30 and BACKMENU (backdesk.zip)
This is an interesting package, which contains
a few other goodies as well as a workspace manager. Other goodies
include "Backmenu", which provides a pop-up root menu when you
press a certain mouse button - just like in X-Windows. The menu
is totally configurable, offering unlimited depth of cascading menus,
which is provides quite handy access to applications. You could
say it is a menu-based alternative to the program manager. Also
bundled in "backdesk.zip" is a program called "WRUN", which allows
you to run windows applications from a DOS shell under WINDOWS
instead of using the File Manager to run applications.
The actual workspace manager is called BIGDESK 2.30. BIGDESK works quite
differently to the other two workspace managers in that it
doesn't provide a certain number of disjoint and separate workspaces.
In fact, it basically enlarges your desktop by a configurable amount,
and you choose which region of the desktop you want your screen to
focus in on. This means you can have windows overlapping between different
viewing regions, unlike the first two workspace managers in which
each workspace was isolated from the other one. The BIGDESK control window
allows to to move windows around your enlarged desktop. Basically
the control window provides a small scale view of your viewing area
while your actual computer screen provides a large scale or blow-up
of a particular section. | 2 | comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
Please tell me what you think would have happened had the people
come out with their hands up several weeks ago.
More than someone who would not release children from the compound.
I.e., more than David Koresh/Vernon Howell/"Jesus Christ".
I saw lengthy excerpts from an Australian documentary made in
1992 that clearly showed that this was a cult.
I am not pleased with the BATF handling of the affair. I think they
bungled it badly from the start. But I don't think they are
responsible for the fire, which started in two different places.
| 16 | talk.politics.guns |
Danny Rubenstein, an Israeli journalist, will be speaking tonight
(Wednesday, 7:30 pm) on the messy subject of politics in Israel.
He is speaking at Hillel on the U.C. Berkeley campus. The talk is
sponsored by the Berkeley Israel Action Committee (IAC). | 17 | talk.politics.mideast |
Chapter 7 operation in Somlia. Almost Chapter 7 in Cambodia and Yugo.
'Bout time the UN started using force to make the peace happen.
Hopefully, they will soon be doing the same with world economics.
| 18 | talk.politics.misc |
} How does one read the betting spreads for baseball? They tend to be something
} like 8-9 which means it must not be runs!
that spread means you bet $5 on the underdog to win $8, or $9 on the
favorite to win $5. | 9 | rec.sport.baseball |
[email protected] (Daniel Oldham) babbles:
What happened in Waco is not the fault of the BATF. If they would of
had the proper equipment and personal then they could of captured the
compound on the initial assault and none of this would of happened.
If they'd gone to the door and knocked on it to serve the
warrant, like the Sheriff had done 3 other times, they
wouldn't have needed to HAVE an initial assault. But then,
Herr Klinton and Attorney Gen'l Reno wouldn't have been
able to have told such heroic stories about how they
"protected" the rest of us from a group of people who
kept to themselves, miles out in the prairie.
The BATF needs more people, better weapons and more armored
transports. When they meet hostile fire they should be able to use
more force instead of retreating to a stand off. If you are going to
do a job then do it right. The BATF is there to protect us and they
must have the proper equipment and people to do the job.
The BATF needs to be disbanded. This out of control group
of Rambo wannabees is a danger to the Republic.
With the WoD and the increased crime in the streets the BATF is needed
more now then ever. If they blast away a few good fokes then that is
the price we all have to pay for law and order in this country.
Well, I figure you're going to get flamed pretty badly by
everybody else for this incredibly stupid statement, so I'll
just let it pass for now.
Case Western reserve, huh? Do the Feds know about that big
stockpile of automatic weapons and crack you have in your
house? Are you the same Daniel Oldham that lives on Orchard
Drive? Just so they get the address right, that is...
Look
at all the good people that died in wars to protect this great country
of ours.
Well, it used to be a great country. Now I'm not so sure.
I knew a few of those good people who died in wars; I was
in Viet Nam. I can assure you, none of us fought to protect
the right of the government to attack its own citizens with
military force without provocation. (Hint: serving a search warrant
is NOT sufficient provocation to stage a military style assault
on a religious group. At Least not here in the US. Maybe in
Iraq, or Syria...)
With the arms build up in Waco they needed to hit that compound with
mega fire power. They could of gone in there blasting and killed a few
women and kids but it would of been better then letting them all burn
to death 51 days later. | 16 | talk.politics.guns |
someone gave me this brand new card. I am thinking to sell it cuz
I don't need it. but the problem is that i don't even know what this
is.
this was made by Forte Communications Co. it has 2 board combined
together (looks wierd to me) and has 2 9 pin ports (one male and one
female), and also has a round port (like BNC, not sure).
this was made in 1986, and has a "fortegraph emulator & diagnostic" disk
with it.
has anyone here ever seen this or known what this is.
appreciate your help in advance. | 6 | misc.forsale |
I've been running a daily summary of the Randy Weaver/Kevin
Harris trial from here in Boise. These summaries are sent
primarily to mailing lists. However, I was wondering if
people would be interested in seeing them here. Post or
email.
Drew | 16 | talk.politics.guns |
Koc) responded to article <[email protected]> dbd@urartu.
[DD] Problem 1
[DD]
[DD] My father told me the following story. During the famous wars between the
[DD] Armenians and the Persians, prince Zaurak Kamsarakan performed
[DD] extraordinary heroic deeds. Three times in a single month he attacked the
[DD] Persian troops. The first time, he struck down half of the Persian army.
[DD] The second time, pursuing the Persians, he slaughtered one fourth of the
[DD] soldiers. The third time, he destroyed one eleventh of the Persian army.
[DD] The Persians who were still alive, numbering two hundred eighty, fled to
[DD] Nakhichevan. And so, from this remainder, find how many Persian soldiers
[DD] there were before the massacre.
[Koc] Answer: a(1-1/2-1/4-1/11)=280 -> a = 1760
Good for you! You win the prize -- a free trip to Karabakh as an Azeri
soldier! Now, calculate the odds of you coming back after trying to de-populate
the area of Armenians!
[Koc] Corollary: Armenians strike, slaughter, destroy, and massacre. After
[Koc] all, they are not as innocent as the asala network claims.
Fact: I didn't notice any mention of Turks in Shirak, Van, or Trebizon in
this seventh century story!
Fact: These places were filled with Armenians as of 1915.
Fact: By the end of 1916, after the Turkish genocide of the Armenians, there
were no Armenians left in Shirak, Van, or Trebizon -- only Turks and
Kurds! In fact, there were no Pontus Greeks left alive in Trebizon
either!
Conclusion: Numbers don't lie in either case!
| 17 | talk.politics.mideast |
No. The REAL question: Should the Feds bail-out IBM ( a la Chrysler )
so that important $80K manufacturing jobs wouldn't be lost? | 18 | talk.politics.misc |
Ok boys and girls,
"What was the 'Ogadan War'????"
The Money Raised in Band-Aid covered How Much of
the Cost of Which Soviet Client State to replace what
catagory of weapon system lost in the aforementioned war?
Why was the Joke: "We arm the World." Really Not that funny?
Gonzo Station is the designation for WHICH USN Op Area?
and the primary threat targets in the Area Were:.....
ciao
drieux
| 18 | talk.politics.misc |
The Quantum LPS 240AT is supposed to have a 256K cache on the IDE
controller built into the card. Yet when I do a DOS DIR command
on my system, the disk is always accessed (I can hear the mechanical
movement of the heads). Why is this happening? Strangely, even
when I have smartdrive installed, every DIR command accesses the
disk. Did I somehow de-activate the cache? This is happening on each
of two machines with an LPS 240AT drive.
| 3 | comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
From my reading of the popular, and scientific, literature, I think that the
benzopyrene-from-burned-fat problem is probably real but very small compared to
other kinds of risks. (This type of problem also occurs with stove-top pan
grilling.) One possible remedy I have read about is to take some vitamin C with your meal of barbecue (or bacon, e.g.). This MAY make sense because vit. C
is an antioxidant which could counteract the adverse affect of some of the
chemicals in question. Bon Apetit!
| 13 | sci.med |
:
:> As someone else has pointed out, why would the stove be in use on a warm day
:> in Texas.
:
:Do YOU eat all your food cold?
Thank you for pointing out the obvious to people who so clearly missed it.
I can't stand it when people's first reaction is to defend the aggressor.
Mr. Tavares, you have a unique and thoughtful way of getting to the heart
of the matter, and I thank you for putting it to good use.
Mike Ruff
| 16 | talk.politics.guns |
4 month old Sega Genesis, barely used, one controller, in original
box, with Sonics 1 and 2. $130 gets the whole bundle shipped to you.
Turns out they're not as addictive when they're yours. Anyway, mail me if
you're interested in this marvel of modern technology.
| 6 | misc.forsale |
Sounds liek what the FED has to do is sign a 50 or more year lease to use
certain parts of a space station that is built and designed and such by a
commerical company or consortium of companies (such as like Alyeska) for a
small amount of rent in return for certain incentives and such.. Such as tax
and other right off and also a monopoly on certain products.. The commerical
builders would have certain perks given to them to make there end easier (taxes
, contracts, regulatory concesions and such..)
Is it workable, just might work..
After all, if China can lease out Hong Kong and the people of Hong Kong can
make money, this could work.. | 14 | sci.space |
: It is meaningless to compare one player's plus/minus statistic with
: another players' out of the context of the role and the playing time
: of the players involved.
: To compare Jagr's and Francis's plus/minus is ridiculous and absurd...
: Gerald
Thank you for putting this in perspective!
| 10 | rec.sport.hockey |
I have the following Amiga software for sale:
ProVideo GOLD $50
AmigaVision $25
B.E.S.T. Plan It! $10
spreadsheet
(still in shrinkwrap)
SuperBack $10
(hard drive backup)
Certificate Maker $10
Add s&h to the above and its yours...email me at the address listed below:
| 6 | misc.forsale |
HI, I was wondering if anyone would be able to help me on twwo related
subjects. I am currently learning about AM/FM receivers and recieving
circuits. I understand a lot of things ,but a few things I am confused
abuot. The first is the MIXER, to mix the RF and local oscillator
frequencies to make the IF. Does anyone have any cicruit diagrams (as
simple as possible) for this kind of mixer? I have come across a
MC-SBL mixer chip But I have not been able to find it in any catalogs
(ACTIVE,etc...)
Along the same note, are there any SIMPLE fm receiver circuits anyone
may have stashed away somewhere and they couold let me see?.
P.S. any REALLY GOOD BOOKS on AM/FM theory ALONG WITH DETAILED
ELECTRICAL DIAGRAMS would help a lot.
I have seen a lot of theory books with no circuits and a lot of
circuit books with no theory, but one without the other does not help.
Thanks, | 12 | sci.electronics |
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