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msa8fv | askacademia_train | 0.97 | I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen. | gurhis1 | gurs0i2 | 1,618,603,390 | 1,618,608,163 | 25 | 31 | My best advice would be to do the job because of your own internalized interests in your field; no matter how much you achieve (eg big paper, big grant, recognition, whatever), the external validation from those achievements is only temporarily uplifting. Do the science for *you*, not for your colleagues or peers or students. Just remember your smart enough and good enough and gosh darn it people like you. | So, I freaking love my TT job- love my dept, love my students, got tenure last year. It’s my dream job. And.... this year BLEW. It was terrible. It was demoralizing and doing things remotely took all the fun parts out and all the support out and just left the worst parts of the job. Not that you have to stay in your job forever or even one minute longer, but this was truly a shitty year all around and it’s not a perfect career but I promise it can be better than this. | 0 | 4,773 | 1.24 |
msa8fv | askacademia_train | 0.97 | I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen. | gurs0i2 | gurlq96 | 1,618,608,163 | 1,618,605,263 | 31 | 19 | So, I freaking love my TT job- love my dept, love my students, got tenure last year. It’s my dream job. And.... this year BLEW. It was terrible. It was demoralizing and doing things remotely took all the fun parts out and all the support out and just left the worst parts of the job. Not that you have to stay in your job forever or even one minute longer, but this was truly a shitty year all around and it’s not a perfect career but I promise it can be better than this. | Hello fellow ChemE! You aren't alone. This is year 1 after tenure as associate prof. My weight ballooned this year. This year for me has been the most unproductive mess of a year. The rejection never stops. Sometimes rejection happens not because you did anything wrong but for "reasons." I hope you have some mentors in your department who can guide you on expectations leading towards reviews. Don't take the first year as a sign of anything to come. My first year was only about surviving and that was it. It wasn't until year 4 that proposal traction was gained and landed a CAREER. I'm happy to have a distanced coffee chat to maybe vent or strategize some good habits! Feel free to reach out | 1 | 2,900 | 1.631579 |
msa8fv | askacademia_train | 0.97 | I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen. | gurs0i2 | gurrbpf | 1,618,608,163 | 1,618,607,833 | 31 | 2 | So, I freaking love my TT job- love my dept, love my students, got tenure last year. It’s my dream job. And.... this year BLEW. It was terrible. It was demoralizing and doing things remotely took all the fun parts out and all the support out and just left the worst parts of the job. Not that you have to stay in your job forever or even one minute longer, but this was truly a shitty year all around and it’s not a perfect career but I promise it can be better than this. | If you don't like the TT position, then the best thing for everyone is for you to leave it, and sooner rather than later. You will have a chance to move on to something new in your life that you will hopefully like better, and your position will presumably have a chance to be filled by someone who finds it more satisfactory than you do. What you should absolutely not do is hang around for another 3 or 5 years knowing you don't like it. That benefits nobody and nothing. Good luck, hope it turns out for the best. | 1 | 330 | 15.5 |
msa8fv | askacademia_train | 0.97 | I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen. | gurlq96 | gurs8nl | 1,618,605,263 | 1,618,608,273 | 19 | 21 | Hello fellow ChemE! You aren't alone. This is year 1 after tenure as associate prof. My weight ballooned this year. This year for me has been the most unproductive mess of a year. The rejection never stops. Sometimes rejection happens not because you did anything wrong but for "reasons." I hope you have some mentors in your department who can guide you on expectations leading towards reviews. Don't take the first year as a sign of anything to come. My first year was only about surviving and that was it. It wasn't until year 4 that proposal traction was gained and landed a CAREER. I'm happy to have a distanced coffee chat to maybe vent or strategize some good habits! Feel free to reach out | Sorry to hear about your experience. 1. You absolutely need to establish some sense of balance in your life. You need to set foot outside your house *every* day for a month. 2. 5 grant proposals in a year sounds quite astonishing to me. Were you 100% satisfied with each of them when you submitted them? Some advice I got was to focus on one proposal per year and make that one as strong as possible, which leads to a much higher success chance than five medicore ones. | 0 | 3,010 | 1.105263 |
msa8fv | askacademia_train | 0.97 | I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen. | gurrbpf | gurs8nl | 1,618,607,833 | 1,618,608,273 | 2 | 21 | If you don't like the TT position, then the best thing for everyone is for you to leave it, and sooner rather than later. You will have a chance to move on to something new in your life that you will hopefully like better, and your position will presumably have a chance to be filled by someone who finds it more satisfactory than you do. What you should absolutely not do is hang around for another 3 or 5 years knowing you don't like it. That benefits nobody and nothing. Good luck, hope it turns out for the best. | Sorry to hear about your experience. 1. You absolutely need to establish some sense of balance in your life. You need to set foot outside your house *every* day for a month. 2. 5 grant proposals in a year sounds quite astonishing to me. Were you 100% satisfied with each of them when you submitted them? Some advice I got was to focus on one proposal per year and make that one as strong as possible, which leads to a much higher success chance than five medicore ones. | 0 | 440 | 10.5 |
msa8fv | askacademia_train | 0.97 | I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen. | gurrbpf | gurt9z0 | 1,618,607,833 | 1,618,608,779 | 2 | 17 | If you don't like the TT position, then the best thing for everyone is for you to leave it, and sooner rather than later. You will have a chance to move on to something new in your life that you will hopefully like better, and your position will presumably have a chance to be filled by someone who finds it more satisfactory than you do. What you should absolutely not do is hang around for another 3 or 5 years knowing you don't like it. That benefits nobody and nothing. Good luck, hope it turns out for the best. | Oh Man, after reading this, I have realised that my PhD problems are nothing compared to this. How can you live a healthy life after going through all this? | 0 | 946 | 8.5 |
msa8fv | askacademia_train | 0.97 | I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen. | gus5qqh | gurts0h | 1,618,615,159 | 1,618,609,024 | 13 | 9 | I've been at this for 25 years now and without question this was the worst year every for almost everyone I know in higher ed. There was very little to celebrate and a hell of a lot to mourn/hate/revile/be annoyed about. I can't imagine what it would be like to start out this year...the only thing I can suggest it that it will likely get better so maybe give it another year? | It was a terrible time for it to be your first year. It really does get easier, in part because you learn a way to live with never getting stuff done. Once you have some preps under your belt and you learn how to manage your class so that it takes up less time, it gets much, much better . It is also exhausting and stressful because everything you need to do you don't know anything about. This is a vicious cycle, which is the bad news, because once you knock out some of the jenga blocks of happiness, shit goes downhill fast. But the good news it is - it is geometric in the opposite direction also. Take a walk, play with your dog, talk to some friends, do something that makes you a little bit happy. Get a little bit of exercise every day, even if it is a 15 min walk. Your planner is your friend. Tasks will expand to take up however much time you have. | 1 | 6,135 | 1.444444 |
msa8fv | askacademia_train | 0.97 | I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen. | gus5qqh | gurw30j | 1,618,615,159 | 1,618,610,151 | 13 | 9 | I've been at this for 25 years now and without question this was the worst year every for almost everyone I know in higher ed. There was very little to celebrate and a hell of a lot to mourn/hate/revile/be annoyed about. I can't imagine what it would be like to start out this year...the only thing I can suggest it that it will likely get better so maybe give it another year? | I won't tell anyone who hates their job to not quit if they can do something else, but are you connected with anyone else who is TT or otherwise? I have found, after being FT for a few years, that my professional connections have sustained me more than anything else. | 1 | 5,008 | 1.444444 |
msa8fv | askacademia_train | 0.97 | I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen. | gus4izy | gus5qqh | 1,618,614,508 | 1,618,615,159 | 6 | 13 | The negative feedback is going to come whether you work yourself to death or not, so I'd suggest to take care of yourself rather than not setting a foot outside your home. I used to overwork myself and I can't say I get better feedback now, I probably get the same, but I'm not as tired. I do the best that I can without tiring myself out. | I've been at this for 25 years now and without question this was the worst year every for almost everyone I know in higher ed. There was very little to celebrate and a hell of a lot to mourn/hate/revile/be annoyed about. I can't imagine what it would be like to start out this year...the only thing I can suggest it that it will likely get better so maybe give it another year? | 0 | 651 | 2.166667 |
msa8fv | askacademia_train | 0.97 | I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen. | gurrbpf | gus5qqh | 1,618,607,833 | 1,618,615,159 | 2 | 13 | If you don't like the TT position, then the best thing for everyone is for you to leave it, and sooner rather than later. You will have a chance to move on to something new in your life that you will hopefully like better, and your position will presumably have a chance to be filled by someone who finds it more satisfactory than you do. What you should absolutely not do is hang around for another 3 or 5 years knowing you don't like it. That benefits nobody and nothing. Good luck, hope it turns out for the best. | I've been at this for 25 years now and without question this was the worst year every for almost everyone I know in higher ed. There was very little to celebrate and a hell of a lot to mourn/hate/revile/be annoyed about. I can't imagine what it would be like to start out this year...the only thing I can suggest it that it will likely get better so maybe give it another year? | 0 | 7,326 | 6.5 |
msa8fv | askacademia_train | 0.97 | I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen. | gurts0h | gurrbpf | 1,618,609,024 | 1,618,607,833 | 9 | 2 | It was a terrible time for it to be your first year. It really does get easier, in part because you learn a way to live with never getting stuff done. Once you have some preps under your belt and you learn how to manage your class so that it takes up less time, it gets much, much better . It is also exhausting and stressful because everything you need to do you don't know anything about. This is a vicious cycle, which is the bad news, because once you knock out some of the jenga blocks of happiness, shit goes downhill fast. But the good news it is - it is geometric in the opposite direction also. Take a walk, play with your dog, talk to some friends, do something that makes you a little bit happy. Get a little bit of exercise every day, even if it is a 15 min walk. Your planner is your friend. Tasks will expand to take up however much time you have. | If you don't like the TT position, then the best thing for everyone is for you to leave it, and sooner rather than later. You will have a chance to move on to something new in your life that you will hopefully like better, and your position will presumably have a chance to be filled by someone who finds it more satisfactory than you do. What you should absolutely not do is hang around for another 3 or 5 years knowing you don't like it. That benefits nobody and nothing. Good luck, hope it turns out for the best. | 1 | 1,191 | 4.5 |
msa8fv | askacademia_train | 0.97 | I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen. | gurrbpf | gurw30j | 1,618,607,833 | 1,618,610,151 | 2 | 9 | If you don't like the TT position, then the best thing for everyone is for you to leave it, and sooner rather than later. You will have a chance to move on to something new in your life that you will hopefully like better, and your position will presumably have a chance to be filled by someone who finds it more satisfactory than you do. What you should absolutely not do is hang around for another 3 or 5 years knowing you don't like it. That benefits nobody and nothing. Good luck, hope it turns out for the best. | I won't tell anyone who hates their job to not quit if they can do something else, but are you connected with anyone else who is TT or otherwise? I have found, after being FT for a few years, that my professional connections have sustained me more than anything else. | 0 | 2,318 | 4.5 |
msa8fv | askacademia_train | 0.97 | I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen. | gus4izy | gurrbpf | 1,618,614,508 | 1,618,607,833 | 6 | 2 | The negative feedback is going to come whether you work yourself to death or not, so I'd suggest to take care of yourself rather than not setting a foot outside your home. I used to overwork myself and I can't say I get better feedback now, I probably get the same, but I'm not as tired. I do the best that I can without tiring myself out. | If you don't like the TT position, then the best thing for everyone is for you to leave it, and sooner rather than later. You will have a chance to move on to something new in your life that you will hopefully like better, and your position will presumably have a chance to be filled by someone who finds it more satisfactory than you do. What you should absolutely not do is hang around for another 3 or 5 years knowing you don't like it. That benefits nobody and nothing. Good luck, hope it turns out for the best. | 1 | 6,675 | 3 |
msa8fv | askacademia_train | 0.97 | I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen. | gurrbpf | gus7iab | 1,618,607,833 | 1,618,616,088 | 2 | 6 | If you don't like the TT position, then the best thing for everyone is for you to leave it, and sooner rather than later. You will have a chance to move on to something new in your life that you will hopefully like better, and your position will presumably have a chance to be filled by someone who finds it more satisfactory than you do. What you should absolutely not do is hang around for another 3 or 5 years knowing you don't like it. That benefits nobody and nothing. Good luck, hope it turns out for the best. | I’m in a similar position. Do you also feel like you should be happy given that it’s a TT position? | 0 | 8,255 | 3 |
msa8fv | askacademia_train | 0.97 | I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen. | gurrbpf | gusl7bp | 1,618,607,833 | 1,618,623,467 | 2 | 6 | If you don't like the TT position, then the best thing for everyone is for you to leave it, and sooner rather than later. You will have a chance to move on to something new in your life that you will hopefully like better, and your position will presumably have a chance to be filled by someone who finds it more satisfactory than you do. What you should absolutely not do is hang around for another 3 or 5 years knowing you don't like it. That benefits nobody and nothing. Good luck, hope it turns out for the best. | Friend, very few people get noticeable external grants in their first year. Most folks I know get their big NSF/NIH/DARPA awards 3-4 years in. That's why startup funds exist. Don't blame yourself for a year 1. These are extraordinary times. | 0 | 15,634 | 3 |
msa8fv | askacademia_train | 0.97 | I have a TT position - thanks, I hate it I am about 1 year into a TT position in chemical engineering and I feel so bad about myself. How does anyone have the resilience to stay in this job? Of course I was rejected by every grant I applied for (5), but it’s more than that. Nothing good happened, EVER. It was incredibly isolating, I worked 24/7, I GAINED 50 lbs (wtf!), one time I didn’t even set foot outside my house for nearly a month, and still nothing but negative feedback. Pretty much only hear bad news, from students and from grants. I don’t understand how other people find within themselves the will to keep working (or to even keep living - seriously). It just seems unyieldingly terrible. Everyday I have some experience solidifying what a worthless piece of shit I am, and never does anything good happen. | gustjjw | gurrbpf | 1,618,628,160 | 1,618,607,833 | 5 | 2 | You need to break down your problems one at a time. Weight gain, overworking, never leaving the house: Get yourself on a schedule of some sort where you go for a walk or get some sort of exercise once a day. Grants: I hear you on this one. Students: Gotta figure out what the problem is. Can't help you on that but I'm sure they're trying really hard to do the best they can too. | If you don't like the TT position, then the best thing for everyone is for you to leave it, and sooner rather than later. You will have a chance to move on to something new in your life that you will hopefully like better, and your position will presumably have a chance to be filled by someone who finds it more satisfactory than you do. What you should absolutely not do is hang around for another 3 or 5 years knowing you don't like it. That benefits nobody and nothing. Good luck, hope it turns out for the best. | 1 | 20,327 | 2.5 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idpwxaz | idq77ab | 1,656,184,259 | 1,656,189,035 | 306 | 421 | That they don't have as much of a grasp on things as they think they do, and sometimes they "sound dumb" as much as I would talking about a STEM field on an academic level. As long as you have this understanding I think you're fine and people would be willing to explain. I'm in linguistics so I have to listen to a lot of people talk about it thinking they can just intuitively know everything about the field just because they are language speakers and it feels disrespectful sometimes because they are very often wrong. | I’m in physics (obviously STEM), and there is a funny thing that happens where established physicists get kind of bored with their discipline and all of a sudden start becoming self-proclaimed experts in psychology / philosophy / history / linguistics. It seems that when people are really good at one thing, they often overestimate their abilities at everything else. PhD students do this too to some extent. | 0 | 4,776 | 1.375817 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq77ab | idpy2d8 | 1,656,189,035 | 1,656,184,788 | 421 | 202 | I’m in physics (obviously STEM), and there is a funny thing that happens where established physicists get kind of bored with their discipline and all of a sudden start becoming self-proclaimed experts in psychology / philosophy / history / linguistics. It seems that when people are really good at one thing, they often overestimate their abilities at everything else. PhD students do this too to some extent. | We don’t have labs or PIs, and we don’t need grants to cover our salaries or get tenure. Most of our publications are single-author, and are much slower than most STEM fields. Single-author monographs (books) published by university presses are the gold standard. Impact factor is not a thing. Postdocs are much more rare, not part of the standard career trajectory. | 1 | 4,247 | 2.084158 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq6mss | idq77ab | 1,656,188,772 | 1,656,189,035 | 105 | 421 | That all forms of instruction are political. You can hide it better in STEM, but to think there are not political, ethical, and moral implications of what you do is deeply neoliberal - which IS a political ideology. | I’m in physics (obviously STEM), and there is a funny thing that happens where established physicists get kind of bored with their discipline and all of a sudden start becoming self-proclaimed experts in psychology / philosophy / history / linguistics. It seems that when people are really good at one thing, they often overestimate their abilities at everything else. PhD students do this too to some extent. | 0 | 263 | 4.009524 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq77ab | idq124d | 1,656,189,035 | 1,656,186,166 | 421 | 71 | I’m in physics (obviously STEM), and there is a funny thing that happens where established physicists get kind of bored with their discipline and all of a sudden start becoming self-proclaimed experts in psychology / philosophy / history / linguistics. It seems that when people are really good at one thing, they often overestimate their abilities at everything else. PhD students do this too to some extent. | Every person has an opinion on the economy. Most are idiotic. | 1 | 2,869 | 5.929577 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq36ah | idq77ab | 1,656,187,158 | 1,656,189,035 | 55 | 421 | The challenges of measurement. I focus on educational psychology and I am helping one of my university’s STEM organizations develop an assessment for graduate students. They already had a foundational rubric started that they want to build from. Holy crap do I wish they’d brought in help beforehand. This thing is messy and complicated and their original plan for validity evidence skipped so many steps. Assessing learning is hard and making a good measure is even harder. Add in natural measurement error, and it’s a field that people make careers out of. You can’t just jump in and understand it | I’m in physics (obviously STEM), and there is a funny thing that happens where established physicists get kind of bored with their discipline and all of a sudden start becoming self-proclaimed experts in psychology / philosophy / history / linguistics. It seems that when people are really good at one thing, they often overestimate their abilities at everything else. PhD students do this too to some extent. | 0 | 1,877 | 7.654545 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq05mt | idq77ab | 1,656,185,749 | 1,656,189,035 | 45 | 421 | That the need to talk with students and mentor them is critical and not some fad from Gen Z that will go away. I'm aware STEM classes have some huge numbers and giving each student one-on-one time isn't always plausible and it isn't in the job description. But, if your school/state has garbage mental health resources then your students are going to lean on you sometimes. I don't have a solution, just know there IS a social aspect to the job. If you're only interested in padding your CV you will soon be seen as an ineffective educator. As student enrollment declines and retention rates drop, administration will look at student reviews closer to improve those numbers. | I’m in physics (obviously STEM), and there is a funny thing that happens where established physicists get kind of bored with their discipline and all of a sudden start becoming self-proclaimed experts in psychology / philosophy / history / linguistics. It seems that when people are really good at one thing, they often overestimate their abilities at everything else. PhD students do this too to some extent. | 0 | 3,286 | 9.355556 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq77ab | idq1xgq | 1,656,189,035 | 1,656,186,571 | 421 | 29 | I’m in physics (obviously STEM), and there is a funny thing that happens where established physicists get kind of bored with their discipline and all of a sudden start becoming self-proclaimed experts in psychology / philosophy / history / linguistics. It seems that when people are really good at one thing, they often overestimate their abilities at everything else. PhD students do this too to some extent. | I am sitting in STEM (CS), but have been working with humanities and social scientists (HSS) most of my academic life —a year or two ago, I was even considering a faculty position in a social sciences department. In fact, I recently a published whitepaper arguing on the need for CS people to talk more with sociologists and political scientists —we do quite well with psychologists, but we could benefit from some social sciences. Having said the above, I would state against the hubris that STEM people, including myself, doing of trying to rediscover *everything* and represent everyhting mathematically. I understand that maths are pretty, verifiable, and so on but trying to trimmed down complex notions such as discrinimation and fairness into a simple computationally-easy formula is nothing else than hubris that ignores decades of HSS work and cultural aspects. Now, if I may be critical back to HSS researchers, it needs to be said: we are not all sun-hating nerds that hate human interactions and have no interests outside our formulas. | 1 | 2,464 | 14.517241 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq6mss | idqmmf5 | 1,656,188,772 | 1,656,196,369 | 105 | 187 | That all forms of instruction are political. You can hide it better in STEM, but to think there are not political, ethical, and moral implications of what you do is deeply neoliberal - which IS a political ideology. | Industry jobs after PhD are less common for us. If I complain about something about the job, i get answers like "i switched to the industry, earn triple the salary and have great hours, never looked back" from STEM people. | 0 | 7,597 | 1.780952 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idqhflt | idqmmf5 | 1,656,193,857 | 1,656,196,369 | 93 | 187 | When I mentor undergraduate research, it doesn't contribute much to my own research. I don't get a co-authorship. They don't generate data that I can then use. My time mentoring them is time away from my own research. Likewise, when my students get a publication, it means they came up with the research question, they did all the research, and they wrote it up themselves. I mentor them, but it's their own original, single-author contribution to the scholarship. | Industry jobs after PhD are less common for us. If I complain about something about the job, i get answers like "i switched to the industry, earn triple the salary and have great hours, never looked back" from STEM people. | 0 | 2,512 | 2.010753 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq124d | idqmmf5 | 1,656,186,166 | 1,656,196,369 | 71 | 187 | Every person has an opinion on the economy. Most are idiotic. | Industry jobs after PhD are less common for us. If I complain about something about the job, i get answers like "i switched to the industry, earn triple the salary and have great hours, never looked back" from STEM people. | 0 | 10,203 | 2.633803 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idqmmf5 | idq36ah | 1,656,196,369 | 1,656,187,158 | 187 | 55 | Industry jobs after PhD are less common for us. If I complain about something about the job, i get answers like "i switched to the industry, earn triple the salary and have great hours, never looked back" from STEM people. | The challenges of measurement. I focus on educational psychology and I am helping one of my university’s STEM organizations develop an assessment for graduate students. They already had a foundational rubric started that they want to build from. Holy crap do I wish they’d brought in help beforehand. This thing is messy and complicated and their original plan for validity evidence skipped so many steps. Assessing learning is hard and making a good measure is even harder. Add in natural measurement error, and it’s a field that people make careers out of. You can’t just jump in and understand it | 1 | 9,211 | 3.4 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idqigpe | idqmmf5 | 1,656,194,360 | 1,656,196,369 | 49 | 187 | Some STEM people think they know more about the humanities subject than the humanities scholar. As a musician, I regularly saw STEM people talk over arts scholars with their knowledge of coding. It's impressive that you can code but without critical understanding, it has no use. Example: we wanted to recreate a composition from the early 1990s for piano and computer. The engineer guy said he would recode it but in another language and he did not want to comment the code because he felt it was a waste of time. That way, it effectively became useless for future musicians if they had no access to that engineer. The use of a different programming language also would make it into a completely different work. Only after long discussions, we could convince him to work with the original language (which is still in use) and comment the code. But it was not a fun ride. | Industry jobs after PhD are less common for us. If I complain about something about the job, i get answers like "i switched to the industry, earn triple the salary and have great hours, never looked back" from STEM people. | 0 | 2,009 | 3.816327 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idqmmf5 | idq05mt | 1,656,196,369 | 1,656,185,749 | 187 | 45 | Industry jobs after PhD are less common for us. If I complain about something about the job, i get answers like "i switched to the industry, earn triple the salary and have great hours, never looked back" from STEM people. | That the need to talk with students and mentor them is critical and not some fad from Gen Z that will go away. I'm aware STEM classes have some huge numbers and giving each student one-on-one time isn't always plausible and it isn't in the job description. But, if your school/state has garbage mental health resources then your students are going to lean on you sometimes. I don't have a solution, just know there IS a social aspect to the job. If you're only interested in padding your CV you will soon be seen as an ineffective educator. As student enrollment declines and retention rates drop, administration will look at student reviews closer to improve those numbers. | 1 | 10,620 | 4.155556 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq8qc4 | idqmmf5 | 1,656,189,742 | 1,656,196,369 | 44 | 187 | economy and engineering are not the same thing and "supply and demand" is not everything it has about economy. it is not even the only way to think about markets. | Industry jobs after PhD are less common for us. If I complain about something about the job, i get answers like "i switched to the industry, earn triple the salary and have great hours, never looked back" from STEM people. | 0 | 6,627 | 4.25 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idqmmf5 | idqctyk | 1,656,196,369 | 1,656,191,667 | 187 | 24 | Industry jobs after PhD are less common for us. If I complain about something about the job, i get answers like "i switched to the industry, earn triple the salary and have great hours, never looked back" from STEM people. | That I cannot continue to shoulder the fight for health and human rights alone. My discipline is public health. I am American. I am a woman. Every time there's a school shooting, or a new pandemic, or fundamental destruction of basic reproductive rights and freedom, society looks to me and my colleagues for a solution. And I don't know what to say anymore. Most days, the problem is not an academic one, it's a political one. We are screaming out answers, and no one is listening. It's exhausting to go to work every day and advance the science in my field, only to have it die at the hands of a corporation or politician. I am exhausted. I am underpaid and undervalued. Some days I can barely keep it together to fulfill my job duties. How am I supposed to find the strength to do the jobs of everyone else that has seemingly abandoned the social contract? Every time there's a social crisis, some admin releases a statement about how *I* can take action. Why does it have to be just me? I'm not a politician. I'm a researcher. I was never prepared for this. If you're in STEM and you turn to your colleagues in social sciences for answers, maybe first stop and ask yourself what you can do. Then actually do it. Donate to an organization. Attend a protest. Vote. Help register others to vote. Canvas during elections. You don't have to be an expert. You just have to care. | 1 | 4,702 | 7.791667 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq1xgq | idqmmf5 | 1,656,186,571 | 1,656,196,369 | 29 | 187 | I am sitting in STEM (CS), but have been working with humanities and social scientists (HSS) most of my academic life —a year or two ago, I was even considering a faculty position in a social sciences department. In fact, I recently a published whitepaper arguing on the need for CS people to talk more with sociologists and political scientists —we do quite well with psychologists, but we could benefit from some social sciences. Having said the above, I would state against the hubris that STEM people, including myself, doing of trying to rediscover *everything* and represent everyhting mathematically. I understand that maths are pretty, verifiable, and so on but trying to trimmed down complex notions such as discrinimation and fairness into a simple computationally-easy formula is nothing else than hubris that ignores decades of HSS work and cultural aspects. Now, if I may be critical back to HSS researchers, it needs to be said: we are not all sun-hating nerds that hate human interactions and have no interests outside our formulas. | Industry jobs after PhD are less common for us. If I complain about something about the job, i get answers like "i switched to the industry, earn triple the salary and have great hours, never looked back" from STEM people. | 0 | 9,798 | 6.448276 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq124d | idq6mss | 1,656,186,166 | 1,656,188,772 | 71 | 105 | Every person has an opinion on the economy. Most are idiotic. | That all forms of instruction are political. You can hide it better in STEM, but to think there are not political, ethical, and moral implications of what you do is deeply neoliberal - which IS a political ideology. | 0 | 2,606 | 1.478873 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq6mss | idq36ah | 1,656,188,772 | 1,656,187,158 | 105 | 55 | That all forms of instruction are political. You can hide it better in STEM, but to think there are not political, ethical, and moral implications of what you do is deeply neoliberal - which IS a political ideology. | The challenges of measurement. I focus on educational psychology and I am helping one of my university’s STEM organizations develop an assessment for graduate students. They already had a foundational rubric started that they want to build from. Holy crap do I wish they’d brought in help beforehand. This thing is messy and complicated and their original plan for validity evidence skipped so many steps. Assessing learning is hard and making a good measure is even harder. Add in natural measurement error, and it’s a field that people make careers out of. You can’t just jump in and understand it | 1 | 1,614 | 1.909091 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq05mt | idq6mss | 1,656,185,749 | 1,656,188,772 | 45 | 105 | That the need to talk with students and mentor them is critical and not some fad from Gen Z that will go away. I'm aware STEM classes have some huge numbers and giving each student one-on-one time isn't always plausible and it isn't in the job description. But, if your school/state has garbage mental health resources then your students are going to lean on you sometimes. I don't have a solution, just know there IS a social aspect to the job. If you're only interested in padding your CV you will soon be seen as an ineffective educator. As student enrollment declines and retention rates drop, administration will look at student reviews closer to improve those numbers. | That all forms of instruction are political. You can hide it better in STEM, but to think there are not political, ethical, and moral implications of what you do is deeply neoliberal - which IS a political ideology. | 0 | 3,023 | 2.333333 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq1xgq | idq6mss | 1,656,186,571 | 1,656,188,772 | 29 | 105 | I am sitting in STEM (CS), but have been working with humanities and social scientists (HSS) most of my academic life —a year or two ago, I was even considering a faculty position in a social sciences department. In fact, I recently a published whitepaper arguing on the need for CS people to talk more with sociologists and political scientists —we do quite well with psychologists, but we could benefit from some social sciences. Having said the above, I would state against the hubris that STEM people, including myself, doing of trying to rediscover *everything* and represent everyhting mathematically. I understand that maths are pretty, verifiable, and so on but trying to trimmed down complex notions such as discrinimation and fairness into a simple computationally-easy formula is nothing else than hubris that ignores decades of HSS work and cultural aspects. Now, if I may be critical back to HSS researchers, it needs to be said: we are not all sun-hating nerds that hate human interactions and have no interests outside our formulas. | That all forms of instruction are political. You can hide it better in STEM, but to think there are not political, ethical, and moral implications of what you do is deeply neoliberal - which IS a political ideology. | 0 | 2,201 | 3.62069 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idqhflt | idqupqo | 1,656,193,857 | 1,656,200,342 | 93 | 100 | When I mentor undergraduate research, it doesn't contribute much to my own research. I don't get a co-authorship. They don't generate data that I can then use. My time mentoring them is time away from my own research. Likewise, when my students get a publication, it means they came up with the research question, they did all the research, and they wrote it up themselves. I mentor them, but it's their own original, single-author contribution to the scholarship. | Please teach your students to respect us. I can't tell you how many times I've heard about how my subject is easy nonsense and not worthy of time or effort from a STEM student quoting their professor. (I acknowledge the possibility they're lying about quoting.) But still, please convey the message that gen ed electives aren't just obstacles. And if they get a bad grade, maybe it's because the class required some level of effort and ability. There's a lot of, "well, it's not organic chem, so it must be trivially easy." | 0 | 6,485 | 1.075269 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq124d | idqupqo | 1,656,186,166 | 1,656,200,342 | 71 | 100 | Every person has an opinion on the economy. Most are idiotic. | Please teach your students to respect us. I can't tell you how many times I've heard about how my subject is easy nonsense and not worthy of time or effort from a STEM student quoting their professor. (I acknowledge the possibility they're lying about quoting.) But still, please convey the message that gen ed electives aren't just obstacles. And if they get a bad grade, maybe it's because the class required some level of effort and ability. There's a lot of, "well, it's not organic chem, so it must be trivially easy." | 0 | 14,176 | 1.408451 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idqupqo | idq36ah | 1,656,200,342 | 1,656,187,158 | 100 | 55 | Please teach your students to respect us. I can't tell you how many times I've heard about how my subject is easy nonsense and not worthy of time or effort from a STEM student quoting their professor. (I acknowledge the possibility they're lying about quoting.) But still, please convey the message that gen ed electives aren't just obstacles. And if they get a bad grade, maybe it's because the class required some level of effort and ability. There's a lot of, "well, it's not organic chem, so it must be trivially easy." | The challenges of measurement. I focus on educational psychology and I am helping one of my university’s STEM organizations develop an assessment for graduate students. They already had a foundational rubric started that they want to build from. Holy crap do I wish they’d brought in help beforehand. This thing is messy and complicated and their original plan for validity evidence skipped so many steps. Assessing learning is hard and making a good measure is even harder. Add in natural measurement error, and it’s a field that people make careers out of. You can’t just jump in and understand it | 1 | 13,184 | 1.818182 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idqupqo | idqigpe | 1,656,200,342 | 1,656,194,360 | 100 | 49 | Please teach your students to respect us. I can't tell you how many times I've heard about how my subject is easy nonsense and not worthy of time or effort from a STEM student quoting their professor. (I acknowledge the possibility they're lying about quoting.) But still, please convey the message that gen ed electives aren't just obstacles. And if they get a bad grade, maybe it's because the class required some level of effort and ability. There's a lot of, "well, it's not organic chem, so it must be trivially easy." | Some STEM people think they know more about the humanities subject than the humanities scholar. As a musician, I regularly saw STEM people talk over arts scholars with their knowledge of coding. It's impressive that you can code but without critical understanding, it has no use. Example: we wanted to recreate a composition from the early 1990s for piano and computer. The engineer guy said he would recode it but in another language and he did not want to comment the code because he felt it was a waste of time. That way, it effectively became useless for future musicians if they had no access to that engineer. The use of a different programming language also would make it into a completely different work. Only after long discussions, we could convince him to work with the original language (which is still in use) and comment the code. But it was not a fun ride. | 1 | 5,982 | 2.040816 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idqupqo | idq05mt | 1,656,200,342 | 1,656,185,749 | 100 | 45 | Please teach your students to respect us. I can't tell you how many times I've heard about how my subject is easy nonsense and not worthy of time or effort from a STEM student quoting their professor. (I acknowledge the possibility they're lying about quoting.) But still, please convey the message that gen ed electives aren't just obstacles. And if they get a bad grade, maybe it's because the class required some level of effort and ability. There's a lot of, "well, it's not organic chem, so it must be trivially easy." | That the need to talk with students and mentor them is critical and not some fad from Gen Z that will go away. I'm aware STEM classes have some huge numbers and giving each student one-on-one time isn't always plausible and it isn't in the job description. But, if your school/state has garbage mental health resources then your students are going to lean on you sometimes. I don't have a solution, just know there IS a social aspect to the job. If you're only interested in padding your CV you will soon be seen as an ineffective educator. As student enrollment declines and retention rates drop, administration will look at student reviews closer to improve those numbers. | 1 | 14,593 | 2.222222 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq8qc4 | idqupqo | 1,656,189,742 | 1,656,200,342 | 44 | 100 | economy and engineering are not the same thing and "supply and demand" is not everything it has about economy. it is not even the only way to think about markets. | Please teach your students to respect us. I can't tell you how many times I've heard about how my subject is easy nonsense and not worthy of time or effort from a STEM student quoting their professor. (I acknowledge the possibility they're lying about quoting.) But still, please convey the message that gen ed electives aren't just obstacles. And if they get a bad grade, maybe it's because the class required some level of effort and ability. There's a lot of, "well, it's not organic chem, so it must be trivially easy." | 0 | 10,600 | 2.272727 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idqupqo | idqctyk | 1,656,200,342 | 1,656,191,667 | 100 | 24 | Please teach your students to respect us. I can't tell you how many times I've heard about how my subject is easy nonsense and not worthy of time or effort from a STEM student quoting their professor. (I acknowledge the possibility they're lying about quoting.) But still, please convey the message that gen ed electives aren't just obstacles. And if they get a bad grade, maybe it's because the class required some level of effort and ability. There's a lot of, "well, it's not organic chem, so it must be trivially easy." | That I cannot continue to shoulder the fight for health and human rights alone. My discipline is public health. I am American. I am a woman. Every time there's a school shooting, or a new pandemic, or fundamental destruction of basic reproductive rights and freedom, society looks to me and my colleagues for a solution. And I don't know what to say anymore. Most days, the problem is not an academic one, it's a political one. We are screaming out answers, and no one is listening. It's exhausting to go to work every day and advance the science in my field, only to have it die at the hands of a corporation or politician. I am exhausted. I am underpaid and undervalued. Some days I can barely keep it together to fulfill my job duties. How am I supposed to find the strength to do the jobs of everyone else that has seemingly abandoned the social contract? Every time there's a social crisis, some admin releases a statement about how *I* can take action. Why does it have to be just me? I'm not a politician. I'm a researcher. I was never prepared for this. If you're in STEM and you turn to your colleagues in social sciences for answers, maybe first stop and ask yourself what you can do. Then actually do it. Donate to an organization. Attend a protest. Vote. Help register others to vote. Canvas during elections. You don't have to be an expert. You just have to care. | 1 | 8,675 | 4.166667 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq1xgq | idqupqo | 1,656,186,571 | 1,656,200,342 | 29 | 100 | I am sitting in STEM (CS), but have been working with humanities and social scientists (HSS) most of my academic life —a year or two ago, I was even considering a faculty position in a social sciences department. In fact, I recently a published whitepaper arguing on the need for CS people to talk more with sociologists and political scientists —we do quite well with psychologists, but we could benefit from some social sciences. Having said the above, I would state against the hubris that STEM people, including myself, doing of trying to rediscover *everything* and represent everyhting mathematically. I understand that maths are pretty, verifiable, and so on but trying to trimmed down complex notions such as discrinimation and fairness into a simple computationally-easy formula is nothing else than hubris that ignores decades of HSS work and cultural aspects. Now, if I may be critical back to HSS researchers, it needs to be said: we are not all sun-hating nerds that hate human interactions and have no interests outside our formulas. | Please teach your students to respect us. I can't tell you how many times I've heard about how my subject is easy nonsense and not worthy of time or effort from a STEM student quoting their professor. (I acknowledge the possibility they're lying about quoting.) But still, please convey the message that gen ed electives aren't just obstacles. And if they get a bad grade, maybe it's because the class required some level of effort and ability. There's a lot of, "well, it's not organic chem, so it must be trivially easy." | 0 | 13,771 | 3.448276 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idqhflt | idq124d | 1,656,193,857 | 1,656,186,166 | 93 | 71 | When I mentor undergraduate research, it doesn't contribute much to my own research. I don't get a co-authorship. They don't generate data that I can then use. My time mentoring them is time away from my own research. Likewise, when my students get a publication, it means they came up with the research question, they did all the research, and they wrote it up themselves. I mentor them, but it's their own original, single-author contribution to the scholarship. | Every person has an opinion on the economy. Most are idiotic. | 1 | 7,691 | 1.309859 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq36ah | idqhflt | 1,656,187,158 | 1,656,193,857 | 55 | 93 | The challenges of measurement. I focus on educational psychology and I am helping one of my university’s STEM organizations develop an assessment for graduate students. They already had a foundational rubric started that they want to build from. Holy crap do I wish they’d brought in help beforehand. This thing is messy and complicated and their original plan for validity evidence skipped so many steps. Assessing learning is hard and making a good measure is even harder. Add in natural measurement error, and it’s a field that people make careers out of. You can’t just jump in and understand it | When I mentor undergraduate research, it doesn't contribute much to my own research. I don't get a co-authorship. They don't generate data that I can then use. My time mentoring them is time away from my own research. Likewise, when my students get a publication, it means they came up with the research question, they did all the research, and they wrote it up themselves. I mentor them, but it's their own original, single-author contribution to the scholarship. | 0 | 6,699 | 1.690909 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq05mt | idqhflt | 1,656,185,749 | 1,656,193,857 | 45 | 93 | That the need to talk with students and mentor them is critical and not some fad from Gen Z that will go away. I'm aware STEM classes have some huge numbers and giving each student one-on-one time isn't always plausible and it isn't in the job description. But, if your school/state has garbage mental health resources then your students are going to lean on you sometimes. I don't have a solution, just know there IS a social aspect to the job. If you're only interested in padding your CV you will soon be seen as an ineffective educator. As student enrollment declines and retention rates drop, administration will look at student reviews closer to improve those numbers. | When I mentor undergraduate research, it doesn't contribute much to my own research. I don't get a co-authorship. They don't generate data that I can then use. My time mentoring them is time away from my own research. Likewise, when my students get a publication, it means they came up with the research question, they did all the research, and they wrote it up themselves. I mentor them, but it's their own original, single-author contribution to the scholarship. | 0 | 8,108 | 2.066667 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq8qc4 | idqhflt | 1,656,189,742 | 1,656,193,857 | 44 | 93 | economy and engineering are not the same thing and "supply and demand" is not everything it has about economy. it is not even the only way to think about markets. | When I mentor undergraduate research, it doesn't contribute much to my own research. I don't get a co-authorship. They don't generate data that I can then use. My time mentoring them is time away from my own research. Likewise, when my students get a publication, it means they came up with the research question, they did all the research, and they wrote it up themselves. I mentor them, but it's their own original, single-author contribution to the scholarship. | 0 | 4,115 | 2.113636 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idqhflt | idqctyk | 1,656,193,857 | 1,656,191,667 | 93 | 24 | When I mentor undergraduate research, it doesn't contribute much to my own research. I don't get a co-authorship. They don't generate data that I can then use. My time mentoring them is time away from my own research. Likewise, when my students get a publication, it means they came up with the research question, they did all the research, and they wrote it up themselves. I mentor them, but it's their own original, single-author contribution to the scholarship. | That I cannot continue to shoulder the fight for health and human rights alone. My discipline is public health. I am American. I am a woman. Every time there's a school shooting, or a new pandemic, or fundamental destruction of basic reproductive rights and freedom, society looks to me and my colleagues for a solution. And I don't know what to say anymore. Most days, the problem is not an academic one, it's a political one. We are screaming out answers, and no one is listening. It's exhausting to go to work every day and advance the science in my field, only to have it die at the hands of a corporation or politician. I am exhausted. I am underpaid and undervalued. Some days I can barely keep it together to fulfill my job duties. How am I supposed to find the strength to do the jobs of everyone else that has seemingly abandoned the social contract? Every time there's a social crisis, some admin releases a statement about how *I* can take action. Why does it have to be just me? I'm not a politician. I'm a researcher. I was never prepared for this. If you're in STEM and you turn to your colleagues in social sciences for answers, maybe first stop and ask yourself what you can do. Then actually do it. Donate to an organization. Attend a protest. Vote. Help register others to vote. Canvas during elections. You don't have to be an expert. You just have to care. | 1 | 2,190 | 3.875 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idqhflt | idq1xgq | 1,656,193,857 | 1,656,186,571 | 93 | 29 | When I mentor undergraduate research, it doesn't contribute much to my own research. I don't get a co-authorship. They don't generate data that I can then use. My time mentoring them is time away from my own research. Likewise, when my students get a publication, it means they came up with the research question, they did all the research, and they wrote it up themselves. I mentor them, but it's their own original, single-author contribution to the scholarship. | I am sitting in STEM (CS), but have been working with humanities and social scientists (HSS) most of my academic life —a year or two ago, I was even considering a faculty position in a social sciences department. In fact, I recently a published whitepaper arguing on the need for CS people to talk more with sociologists and political scientists —we do quite well with psychologists, but we could benefit from some social sciences. Having said the above, I would state against the hubris that STEM people, including myself, doing of trying to rediscover *everything* and represent everyhting mathematically. I understand that maths are pretty, verifiable, and so on but trying to trimmed down complex notions such as discrinimation and fairness into a simple computationally-easy formula is nothing else than hubris that ignores decades of HSS work and cultural aspects. Now, if I may be critical back to HSS researchers, it needs to be said: we are not all sun-hating nerds that hate human interactions and have no interests outside our formulas. | 1 | 7,286 | 3.206897 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idqymbu | idq124d | 1,656,202,331 | 1,656,186,166 | 74 | 71 | Whatever the differences, we can all come together making fun of MBAs. | Every person has an opinion on the economy. Most are idiotic. | 1 | 16,165 | 1.042254 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq36ah | idqymbu | 1,656,187,158 | 1,656,202,331 | 55 | 74 | The challenges of measurement. I focus on educational psychology and I am helping one of my university’s STEM organizations develop an assessment for graduate students. They already had a foundational rubric started that they want to build from. Holy crap do I wish they’d brought in help beforehand. This thing is messy and complicated and their original plan for validity evidence skipped so many steps. Assessing learning is hard and making a good measure is even harder. Add in natural measurement error, and it’s a field that people make careers out of. You can’t just jump in and understand it | Whatever the differences, we can all come together making fun of MBAs. | 0 | 15,173 | 1.345455 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idqigpe | idqymbu | 1,656,194,360 | 1,656,202,331 | 49 | 74 | Some STEM people think they know more about the humanities subject than the humanities scholar. As a musician, I regularly saw STEM people talk over arts scholars with their knowledge of coding. It's impressive that you can code but without critical understanding, it has no use. Example: we wanted to recreate a composition from the early 1990s for piano and computer. The engineer guy said he would recode it but in another language and he did not want to comment the code because he felt it was a waste of time. That way, it effectively became useless for future musicians if they had no access to that engineer. The use of a different programming language also would make it into a completely different work. Only after long discussions, we could convince him to work with the original language (which is still in use) and comment the code. But it was not a fun ride. | Whatever the differences, we can all come together making fun of MBAs. | 0 | 7,971 | 1.510204 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq05mt | idqymbu | 1,656,185,749 | 1,656,202,331 | 45 | 74 | That the need to talk with students and mentor them is critical and not some fad from Gen Z that will go away. I'm aware STEM classes have some huge numbers and giving each student one-on-one time isn't always plausible and it isn't in the job description. But, if your school/state has garbage mental health resources then your students are going to lean on you sometimes. I don't have a solution, just know there IS a social aspect to the job. If you're only interested in padding your CV you will soon be seen as an ineffective educator. As student enrollment declines and retention rates drop, administration will look at student reviews closer to improve those numbers. | Whatever the differences, we can all come together making fun of MBAs. | 0 | 16,582 | 1.644444 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idqymbu | idq8qc4 | 1,656,202,331 | 1,656,189,742 | 74 | 44 | Whatever the differences, we can all come together making fun of MBAs. | economy and engineering are not the same thing and "supply and demand" is not everything it has about economy. it is not even the only way to think about markets. | 1 | 12,589 | 1.681818 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idqctyk | idqymbu | 1,656,191,667 | 1,656,202,331 | 24 | 74 | That I cannot continue to shoulder the fight for health and human rights alone. My discipline is public health. I am American. I am a woman. Every time there's a school shooting, or a new pandemic, or fundamental destruction of basic reproductive rights and freedom, society looks to me and my colleagues for a solution. And I don't know what to say anymore. Most days, the problem is not an academic one, it's a political one. We are screaming out answers, and no one is listening. It's exhausting to go to work every day and advance the science in my field, only to have it die at the hands of a corporation or politician. I am exhausted. I am underpaid and undervalued. Some days I can barely keep it together to fulfill my job duties. How am I supposed to find the strength to do the jobs of everyone else that has seemingly abandoned the social contract? Every time there's a social crisis, some admin releases a statement about how *I* can take action. Why does it have to be just me? I'm not a politician. I'm a researcher. I was never prepared for this. If you're in STEM and you turn to your colleagues in social sciences for answers, maybe first stop and ask yourself what you can do. Then actually do it. Donate to an organization. Attend a protest. Vote. Help register others to vote. Canvas during elections. You don't have to be an expert. You just have to care. | Whatever the differences, we can all come together making fun of MBAs. | 0 | 10,664 | 3.083333 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq1xgq | idqymbu | 1,656,186,571 | 1,656,202,331 | 29 | 74 | I am sitting in STEM (CS), but have been working with humanities and social scientists (HSS) most of my academic life —a year or two ago, I was even considering a faculty position in a social sciences department. In fact, I recently a published whitepaper arguing on the need for CS people to talk more with sociologists and political scientists —we do quite well with psychologists, but we could benefit from some social sciences. Having said the above, I would state against the hubris that STEM people, including myself, doing of trying to rediscover *everything* and represent everyhting mathematically. I understand that maths are pretty, verifiable, and so on but trying to trimmed down complex notions such as discrinimation and fairness into a simple computationally-easy formula is nothing else than hubris that ignores decades of HSS work and cultural aspects. Now, if I may be critical back to HSS researchers, it needs to be said: we are not all sun-hating nerds that hate human interactions and have no interests outside our formulas. | Whatever the differences, we can all come together making fun of MBAs. | 0 | 15,760 | 2.551724 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq124d | idq05mt | 1,656,186,166 | 1,656,185,749 | 71 | 45 | Every person has an opinion on the economy. Most are idiotic. | That the need to talk with students and mentor them is critical and not some fad from Gen Z that will go away. I'm aware STEM classes have some huge numbers and giving each student one-on-one time isn't always plausible and it isn't in the job description. But, if your school/state has garbage mental health resources then your students are going to lean on you sometimes. I don't have a solution, just know there IS a social aspect to the job. If you're only interested in padding your CV you will soon be seen as an ineffective educator. As student enrollment declines and retention rates drop, administration will look at student reviews closer to improve those numbers. | 1 | 417 | 1.577778 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq36ah | idq05mt | 1,656,187,158 | 1,656,185,749 | 55 | 45 | The challenges of measurement. I focus on educational psychology and I am helping one of my university’s STEM organizations develop an assessment for graduate students. They already had a foundational rubric started that they want to build from. Holy crap do I wish they’d brought in help beforehand. This thing is messy and complicated and their original plan for validity evidence skipped so many steps. Assessing learning is hard and making a good measure is even harder. Add in natural measurement error, and it’s a field that people make careers out of. You can’t just jump in and understand it | That the need to talk with students and mentor them is critical and not some fad from Gen Z that will go away. I'm aware STEM classes have some huge numbers and giving each student one-on-one time isn't always plausible and it isn't in the job description. But, if your school/state has garbage mental health resources then your students are going to lean on you sometimes. I don't have a solution, just know there IS a social aspect to the job. If you're only interested in padding your CV you will soon be seen as an ineffective educator. As student enrollment declines and retention rates drop, administration will look at student reviews closer to improve those numbers. | 1 | 1,409 | 1.222222 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq36ah | idq1xgq | 1,656,187,158 | 1,656,186,571 | 55 | 29 | The challenges of measurement. I focus on educational psychology and I am helping one of my university’s STEM organizations develop an assessment for graduate students. They already had a foundational rubric started that they want to build from. Holy crap do I wish they’d brought in help beforehand. This thing is messy and complicated and their original plan for validity evidence skipped so many steps. Assessing learning is hard and making a good measure is even harder. Add in natural measurement error, and it’s a field that people make careers out of. You can’t just jump in and understand it | I am sitting in STEM (CS), but have been working with humanities and social scientists (HSS) most of my academic life —a year or two ago, I was even considering a faculty position in a social sciences department. In fact, I recently a published whitepaper arguing on the need for CS people to talk more with sociologists and political scientists —we do quite well with psychologists, but we could benefit from some social sciences. Having said the above, I would state against the hubris that STEM people, including myself, doing of trying to rediscover *everything* and represent everyhting mathematically. I understand that maths are pretty, verifiable, and so on but trying to trimmed down complex notions such as discrinimation and fairness into a simple computationally-easy formula is nothing else than hubris that ignores decades of HSS work and cultural aspects. Now, if I may be critical back to HSS researchers, it needs to be said: we are not all sun-hating nerds that hate human interactions and have no interests outside our formulas. | 1 | 587 | 1.896552 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idqigpe | idq05mt | 1,656,194,360 | 1,656,185,749 | 49 | 45 | Some STEM people think they know more about the humanities subject than the humanities scholar. As a musician, I regularly saw STEM people talk over arts scholars with their knowledge of coding. It's impressive that you can code but without critical understanding, it has no use. Example: we wanted to recreate a composition from the early 1990s for piano and computer. The engineer guy said he would recode it but in another language and he did not want to comment the code because he felt it was a waste of time. That way, it effectively became useless for future musicians if they had no access to that engineer. The use of a different programming language also would make it into a completely different work. Only after long discussions, we could convince him to work with the original language (which is still in use) and comment the code. But it was not a fun ride. | That the need to talk with students and mentor them is critical and not some fad from Gen Z that will go away. I'm aware STEM classes have some huge numbers and giving each student one-on-one time isn't always plausible and it isn't in the job description. But, if your school/state has garbage mental health resources then your students are going to lean on you sometimes. I don't have a solution, just know there IS a social aspect to the job. If you're only interested in padding your CV you will soon be seen as an ineffective educator. As student enrollment declines and retention rates drop, administration will look at student reviews closer to improve those numbers. | 1 | 8,611 | 1.088889 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idqigpe | idq8qc4 | 1,656,194,360 | 1,656,189,742 | 49 | 44 | Some STEM people think they know more about the humanities subject than the humanities scholar. As a musician, I regularly saw STEM people talk over arts scholars with their knowledge of coding. It's impressive that you can code but without critical understanding, it has no use. Example: we wanted to recreate a composition from the early 1990s for piano and computer. The engineer guy said he would recode it but in another language and he did not want to comment the code because he felt it was a waste of time. That way, it effectively became useless for future musicians if they had no access to that engineer. The use of a different programming language also would make it into a completely different work. Only after long discussions, we could convince him to work with the original language (which is still in use) and comment the code. But it was not a fun ride. | economy and engineering are not the same thing and "supply and demand" is not everything it has about economy. it is not even the only way to think about markets. | 1 | 4,618 | 1.113636 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idqctyk | idqigpe | 1,656,191,667 | 1,656,194,360 | 24 | 49 | That I cannot continue to shoulder the fight for health and human rights alone. My discipline is public health. I am American. I am a woman. Every time there's a school shooting, or a new pandemic, or fundamental destruction of basic reproductive rights and freedom, society looks to me and my colleagues for a solution. And I don't know what to say anymore. Most days, the problem is not an academic one, it's a political one. We are screaming out answers, and no one is listening. It's exhausting to go to work every day and advance the science in my field, only to have it die at the hands of a corporation or politician. I am exhausted. I am underpaid and undervalued. Some days I can barely keep it together to fulfill my job duties. How am I supposed to find the strength to do the jobs of everyone else that has seemingly abandoned the social contract? Every time there's a social crisis, some admin releases a statement about how *I* can take action. Why does it have to be just me? I'm not a politician. I'm a researcher. I was never prepared for this. If you're in STEM and you turn to your colleagues in social sciences for answers, maybe first stop and ask yourself what you can do. Then actually do it. Donate to an organization. Attend a protest. Vote. Help register others to vote. Canvas during elections. You don't have to be an expert. You just have to care. | Some STEM people think they know more about the humanities subject than the humanities scholar. As a musician, I regularly saw STEM people talk over arts scholars with their knowledge of coding. It's impressive that you can code but without critical understanding, it has no use. Example: we wanted to recreate a composition from the early 1990s for piano and computer. The engineer guy said he would recode it but in another language and he did not want to comment the code because he felt it was a waste of time. That way, it effectively became useless for future musicians if they had no access to that engineer. The use of a different programming language also would make it into a completely different work. Only after long discussions, we could convince him to work with the original language (which is still in use) and comment the code. But it was not a fun ride. | 0 | 2,693 | 2.041667 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idqigpe | idq1xgq | 1,656,194,360 | 1,656,186,571 | 49 | 29 | Some STEM people think they know more about the humanities subject than the humanities scholar. As a musician, I regularly saw STEM people talk over arts scholars with their knowledge of coding. It's impressive that you can code but without critical understanding, it has no use. Example: we wanted to recreate a composition from the early 1990s for piano and computer. The engineer guy said he would recode it but in another language and he did not want to comment the code because he felt it was a waste of time. That way, it effectively became useless for future musicians if they had no access to that engineer. The use of a different programming language also would make it into a completely different work. Only after long discussions, we could convince him to work with the original language (which is still in use) and comment the code. But it was not a fun ride. | I am sitting in STEM (CS), but have been working with humanities and social scientists (HSS) most of my academic life —a year or two ago, I was even considering a faculty position in a social sciences department. In fact, I recently a published whitepaper arguing on the need for CS people to talk more with sociologists and political scientists —we do quite well with psychologists, but we could benefit from some social sciences. Having said the above, I would state against the hubris that STEM people, including myself, doing of trying to rediscover *everything* and represent everyhting mathematically. I understand that maths are pretty, verifiable, and so on but trying to trimmed down complex notions such as discrinimation and fairness into a simple computationally-easy formula is nothing else than hubris that ignores decades of HSS work and cultural aspects. Now, if I may be critical back to HSS researchers, it needs to be said: we are not all sun-hating nerds that hate human interactions and have no interests outside our formulas. | 1 | 7,789 | 1.689655 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idq8qc4 | idq1xgq | 1,656,189,742 | 1,656,186,571 | 44 | 29 | economy and engineering are not the same thing and "supply and demand" is not everything it has about economy. it is not even the only way to think about markets. | I am sitting in STEM (CS), but have been working with humanities and social scientists (HSS) most of my academic life —a year or two ago, I was even considering a faculty position in a social sciences department. In fact, I recently a published whitepaper arguing on the need for CS people to talk more with sociologists and political scientists —we do quite well with psychologists, but we could benefit from some social sciences. Having said the above, I would state against the hubris that STEM people, including myself, doing of trying to rediscover *everything* and represent everyhting mathematically. I understand that maths are pretty, verifiable, and so on but trying to trimmed down complex notions such as discrinimation and fairness into a simple computationally-easy formula is nothing else than hubris that ignores decades of HSS work and cultural aspects. Now, if I may be critical back to HSS researchers, it needs to be said: we are not all sun-hating nerds that hate human interactions and have no interests outside our formulas. | 1 | 3,171 | 1.517241 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idrj6rx | idqctyk | 1,656,213,362 | 1,656,191,667 | 27 | 24 | That Religious Studies (aka Religion) is not Theology. We don't teach our students how to be religious -- we teach our students how to analyze how religions (and groups of people, both religious and non-religious) have operated in the past, and continue to operate in the present. We employ particular methods and theories in our discipline, and it is important for our students to know the histories of these methods and theories. | That I cannot continue to shoulder the fight for health and human rights alone. My discipline is public health. I am American. I am a woman. Every time there's a school shooting, or a new pandemic, or fundamental destruction of basic reproductive rights and freedom, society looks to me and my colleagues for a solution. And I don't know what to say anymore. Most days, the problem is not an academic one, it's a political one. We are screaming out answers, and no one is listening. It's exhausting to go to work every day and advance the science in my field, only to have it die at the hands of a corporation or politician. I am exhausted. I am underpaid and undervalued. Some days I can barely keep it together to fulfill my job duties. How am I supposed to find the strength to do the jobs of everyone else that has seemingly abandoned the social contract? Every time there's a social crisis, some admin releases a statement about how *I* can take action. Why does it have to be just me? I'm not a politician. I'm a researcher. I was never prepared for this. If you're in STEM and you turn to your colleagues in social sciences for answers, maybe first stop and ask yourself what you can do. Then actually do it. Donate to an organization. Attend a protest. Vote. Help register others to vote. Canvas during elections. You don't have to be an expert. You just have to care. | 1 | 21,695 | 1.125 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idr3lfs | idrj6rx | 1,656,204,952 | 1,656,213,362 | 25 | 27 | Many of us enjoy teaching and designing “fun” courses related to our discipline, such as an education course centered around specific genres of children’s books, or a study abroad about vampires, or a German studies course on zombies. (I don’t know if STEM academics do the same, but many of my humanities colleagues enjoy the freedom and creativity involved not just in research, but in teaching, too!) | That Religious Studies (aka Religion) is not Theology. We don't teach our students how to be religious -- we teach our students how to analyze how religions (and groups of people, both religious and non-religious) have operated in the past, and continue to operate in the present. We employ particular methods and theories in our discipline, and it is important for our students to know the histories of these methods and theories. | 0 | 8,410 | 1.08 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idrj6rx | idr5b30 | 1,656,213,362 | 1,656,205,848 | 27 | 23 | That Religious Studies (aka Religion) is not Theology. We don't teach our students how to be religious -- we teach our students how to analyze how religions (and groups of people, both religious and non-religious) have operated in the past, and continue to operate in the present. We employ particular methods and theories in our discipline, and it is important for our students to know the histories of these methods and theories. | I have a background in biology and psychology and focus on the philosophies and practices of performance, basically cultural anthropology. So, I’m really fascinated in the crossover and the philosophies of “knowing” as well… You would think that more science folks would be willing to admit to the constraints of “science” itself, but they often aren’t, and they insist that modern Western science as we know it is The Truth, the Whole Truth, and Nothing But the Truth. Meanwhile, I have texts written over two thousand years ago that are discussing in great depth the physiology of emotion in such minute detail (also practices that are not even in text but passed down very methodically over thousands of years) while biology, psychology, and neuroscience are just barely beginning to breach these topics. A laboratory is limited by its own nature and cannot give us this holistic point of view, it took human intuition and a focus on the arts and philosophy to come up with such a comprehensive understanding of the human condition. | 1 | 7,514 | 1.173913 |
vklywh | askacademia_train | 0.93 | What do academics in humanities and social sciences wish their colleagues in STEM knew? Pretty much the title, I'm not sure if I used the right flair. People in humanities and social sciences seem to find opportunities to work together/learn from each other more than with STEM, so I'm grouping them together despite their differences. What do you wish people in STEM knew about your discipline? | idr3lfs | idqctyk | 1,656,204,952 | 1,656,191,667 | 25 | 24 | Many of us enjoy teaching and designing “fun” courses related to our discipline, such as an education course centered around specific genres of children’s books, or a study abroad about vampires, or a German studies course on zombies. (I don’t know if STEM academics do the same, but many of my humanities colleagues enjoy the freedom and creativity involved not just in research, but in teaching, too!) | That I cannot continue to shoulder the fight for health and human rights alone. My discipline is public health. I am American. I am a woman. Every time there's a school shooting, or a new pandemic, or fundamental destruction of basic reproductive rights and freedom, society looks to me and my colleagues for a solution. And I don't know what to say anymore. Most days, the problem is not an academic one, it's a political one. We are screaming out answers, and no one is listening. It's exhausting to go to work every day and advance the science in my field, only to have it die at the hands of a corporation or politician. I am exhausted. I am underpaid and undervalued. Some days I can barely keep it together to fulfill my job duties. How am I supposed to find the strength to do the jobs of everyone else that has seemingly abandoned the social contract? Every time there's a social crisis, some admin releases a statement about how *I* can take action. Why does it have to be just me? I'm not a politician. I'm a researcher. I was never prepared for this. If you're in STEM and you turn to your colleagues in social sciences for answers, maybe first stop and ask yourself what you can do. Then actually do it. Donate to an organization. Attend a protest. Vote. Help register others to vote. Canvas during elections. You don't have to be an expert. You just have to care. | 1 | 13,285 | 1.041667 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gap8vyv | gapakuh | 1,604,154,906 | 1,604,155,945 | 44 | 159 | I'm sorry that's happened to you, but perspective is critical here. You've completed your PhD. A lot of people are struggling to do that under the circumstances, and have limited access to resources they need, or have legitimate fears about how to pay rent or get groceries. You have a job lined up in a desperately depressed market, where thousands of new graduates saddled with debt have found their prospects dissipated or the positions they were promised gone because funding has evaporated. Although things aren't perfect, and you can't have the party that you were looking forward to, there is a lot of privilege in your post, and you should be pleased that so much *has* worked out for you despite the circumstances. There will be time and opportunity to make up for what you missed out on later. | I was in the same boat as you, but I actually loved defending my thesis online. There were like 60 people watching the stream, and I had relatives and friends watching that wouldn’t have been able to otherwise. You’ll be able to celebrate with your friends and family in person next year, and you have a job lined up which is awesome. Just be proud of your accomplishment, and make sure you practice your talk beforehand to get used to the format. When I did my presentation, I just got into a nice zone of focusing in on my slides and talk and not worrying about the audience. Anyways, at least in our department, most people end up scuttling off to their meetings and to do work afterwards anyways, and we just have an awkward celebration after. | 0 | 1,039 | 3.613636 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapahzo | gapakuh | 1,604,155,896 | 1,604,155,945 | 21 | 159 | I’m just ready to be done. Don’t care how it’s done or where I am as long as it’s over. | I was in the same boat as you, but I actually loved defending my thesis online. There were like 60 people watching the stream, and I had relatives and friends watching that wouldn’t have been able to otherwise. You’ll be able to celebrate with your friends and family in person next year, and you have a job lined up which is awesome. Just be proud of your accomplishment, and make sure you practice your talk beforehand to get used to the format. When I did my presentation, I just got into a nice zone of focusing in on my slides and talk and not worrying about the audience. Anyways, at least in our department, most people end up scuttling off to their meetings and to do work afterwards anyways, and we just have an awkward celebration after. | 0 | 49 | 7.571429 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gap6fw0 | gapakuh | 1,604,153,385 | 1,604,155,945 | 16 | 159 | I'm in the exact same boat right now and still working through it as well. It really, really sucks, but it won't make the PhD any less valid when you get it | I was in the same boat as you, but I actually loved defending my thesis online. There were like 60 people watching the stream, and I had relatives and friends watching that wouldn’t have been able to otherwise. You’ll be able to celebrate with your friends and family in person next year, and you have a job lined up which is awesome. Just be proud of your accomplishment, and make sure you practice your talk beforehand to get used to the format. When I did my presentation, I just got into a nice zone of focusing in on my slides and talk and not worrying about the audience. Anyways, at least in our department, most people end up scuttling off to their meetings and to do work afterwards anyways, and we just have an awkward celebration after. | 0 | 2,560 | 9.9375 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapakuh | gap8b6l | 1,604,155,945 | 1,604,154,551 | 159 | 3 | I was in the same boat as you, but I actually loved defending my thesis online. There were like 60 people watching the stream, and I had relatives and friends watching that wouldn’t have been able to otherwise. You’ll be able to celebrate with your friends and family in person next year, and you have a job lined up which is awesome. Just be proud of your accomplishment, and make sure you practice your talk beforehand to get used to the format. When I did my presentation, I just got into a nice zone of focusing in on my slides and talk and not worrying about the audience. Anyways, at least in our department, most people end up scuttling off to their meetings and to do work afterwards anyways, and we just have an awkward celebration after. | I'm so sorry, I would be in the same boat as you. It just sucks. Maybe you can tell yourself that despite all the shit going on, and everyone around the world having their plans disrupted, you managed to achieve something incredible. And it gives kind of a historical significance to the event, and a good story to tell in the future. Try and make the most of it, have an online defense party with your coworkers and friends. This is still a happy occasion even though it doesn't follow your expectations. Not perfect things can be good, in a different way. You rock and it should be celebrated. | 1 | 1,394 | 53 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gap6fw0 | gap8vyv | 1,604,153,385 | 1,604,154,906 | 16 | 44 | I'm in the exact same boat right now and still working through it as well. It really, really sucks, but it won't make the PhD any less valid when you get it | I'm sorry that's happened to you, but perspective is critical here. You've completed your PhD. A lot of people are struggling to do that under the circumstances, and have limited access to resources they need, or have legitimate fears about how to pay rent or get groceries. You have a job lined up in a desperately depressed market, where thousands of new graduates saddled with debt have found their prospects dissipated or the positions they were promised gone because funding has evaporated. Although things aren't perfect, and you can't have the party that you were looking forward to, there is a lot of privilege in your post, and you should be pleased that so much *has* worked out for you despite the circumstances. There will be time and opportunity to make up for what you missed out on later. | 0 | 1,521 | 2.75 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gap8b6l | gap8vyv | 1,604,154,551 | 1,604,154,906 | 3 | 44 | I'm so sorry, I would be in the same boat as you. It just sucks. Maybe you can tell yourself that despite all the shit going on, and everyone around the world having their plans disrupted, you managed to achieve something incredible. And it gives kind of a historical significance to the event, and a good story to tell in the future. Try and make the most of it, have an online defense party with your coworkers and friends. This is still a happy occasion even though it doesn't follow your expectations. Not perfect things can be good, in a different way. You rock and it should be celebrated. | I'm sorry that's happened to you, but perspective is critical here. You've completed your PhD. A lot of people are struggling to do that under the circumstances, and have limited access to resources they need, or have legitimate fears about how to pay rent or get groceries. You have a job lined up in a desperately depressed market, where thousands of new graduates saddled with debt have found their prospects dissipated or the positions they were promised gone because funding has evaporated. Although things aren't perfect, and you can't have the party that you were looking forward to, there is a lot of privilege in your post, and you should be pleased that so much *has* worked out for you despite the circumstances. There will be time and opportunity to make up for what you missed out on later. | 0 | 355 | 14.666667 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gap6fw0 | gapahzo | 1,604,153,385 | 1,604,155,896 | 16 | 21 | I'm in the exact same boat right now and still working through it as well. It really, really sucks, but it won't make the PhD any less valid when you get it | I’m just ready to be done. Don’t care how it’s done or where I am as long as it’s over. | 0 | 2,511 | 1.3125 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapahzo | gap8b6l | 1,604,155,896 | 1,604,154,551 | 21 | 3 | I’m just ready to be done. Don’t care how it’s done or where I am as long as it’s over. | I'm so sorry, I would be in the same boat as you. It just sucks. Maybe you can tell yourself that despite all the shit going on, and everyone around the world having their plans disrupted, you managed to achieve something incredible. And it gives kind of a historical significance to the event, and a good story to tell in the future. Try and make the most of it, have an online defense party with your coworkers and friends. This is still a happy occasion even though it doesn't follow your expectations. Not perfect things can be good, in a different way. You rock and it should be celebrated. | 1 | 1,345 | 7 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gap6fw0 | gapsw6b | 1,604,153,385 | 1,604,166,252 | 16 | 17 | I'm in the exact same boat right now and still working through it as well. It really, really sucks, but it won't make the PhD any less valid when you get it | At least you have a boyfriend to have dinner with. I'm just going to close Zoom and then have a glass of champagne with my dog. And my family don't even live in the same country as me. It sucks. It's so anti-climactic. I love presenting in public and that energy is missing when presenting on Zoom. | 0 | 12,867 | 1.0625 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gaprlof | gapsw6b | 1,604,165,571 | 1,604,166,252 | 15 | 17 | I’m a bit confused about inviting friends and family to a defense? Is this a normal thing in your program or country? My defense was strictly the committee and me, I mean the offer is on the table but it always seemed weird to invite family Members to watch me explain a bunch of math they don’t understand. | At least you have a boyfriend to have dinner with. I'm just going to close Zoom and then have a glass of champagne with my dog. And my family don't even live in the same country as me. It sucks. It's so anti-climactic. I love presenting in public and that energy is missing when presenting on Zoom. | 0 | 681 | 1.133333 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapcc3v | gapsw6b | 1,604,157,013 | 1,604,166,252 | 9 | 17 | I defended back in April, and I hear you, it was *not * what I had pictured in all the years leading up to it. *But* I did find a couple of bonuses I didn’t expect — I was actually a lot more relaxed doing it at home than I would’ve been otherwise (though I did miss that in-person energy), which was a big plus. The biggest benefit by far was that I was able to invite people to watch online who never would’ve been able to make it to an in-person defense. I had really old friends as well as folks who had finished before me, who lived hundreds or thousands of miles away, and who were able to be an important part of that final step. That ended up being a big deal for me, and it happened because the online format opened it up so that I could invite whoever I wanted. Regardless of the format, and like others have written, you’ll soon be done!! And that is a big accomplishment. | At least you have a boyfriend to have dinner with. I'm just going to close Zoom and then have a glass of champagne with my dog. And my family don't even live in the same country as me. It sucks. It's so anti-climactic. I love presenting in public and that energy is missing when presenting on Zoom. | 0 | 9,239 | 1.888889 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gappy6t | gapsw6b | 1,604,164,686 | 1,604,166,252 | 9 | 17 | My PhD student had to defend online last week. It was very sudden. They moved defenses online again only 2 days before her date. We were so upset...she worked hard for it. But we still tried to make a good day. We invited her whole family to an organised zoom afterwards and drew a mural together about how proud we are of her. It is not the same.. but you need to be proud! You did it! You are amazing and you need to be proud! Wishing you strength and success! | At least you have a boyfriend to have dinner with. I'm just going to close Zoom and then have a glass of champagne with my dog. And my family don't even live in the same country as me. It sucks. It's so anti-climactic. I love presenting in public and that energy is missing when presenting on Zoom. | 0 | 1,566 | 1.888889 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapf6zp | gapsw6b | 1,604,158,684 | 1,604,166,252 | 5 | 17 | It totally sucks. But remember that the event is being glorified in your mind. A lot of people had in-person defenses that didn’t go the way they wanted because of a grumpy committee member, or being asked to do extra experiments they didn’t want to do, by not being allowed to graduate yet because someone thought they weren’t ready... Many people are too exhausted to even have the celebration they wanted the after their thesis defense. Maybe it would have been the amazing day you’re imagining but maybe not. But again, it totally sucks also. | At least you have a boyfriend to have dinner with. I'm just going to close Zoom and then have a glass of champagne with my dog. And my family don't even live in the same country as me. It sucks. It's so anti-climactic. I love presenting in public and that energy is missing when presenting on Zoom. | 0 | 7,568 | 3.4 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapg19u | gapsw6b | 1,604,159,165 | 1,604,166,252 | 4 | 17 | I defended over zoom and I quite liked it actually. It was really nice to be in my space. | At least you have a boyfriend to have dinner with. I'm just going to close Zoom and then have a glass of champagne with my dog. And my family don't even live in the same country as me. It sucks. It's so anti-climactic. I love presenting in public and that energy is missing when presenting on Zoom. | 0 | 7,087 | 4.25 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapsw6b | gapbwbx | 1,604,166,252 | 1,604,156,748 | 17 | 5 | At least you have a boyfriend to have dinner with. I'm just going to close Zoom and then have a glass of champagne with my dog. And my family don't even live in the same country as me. It sucks. It's so anti-climactic. I love presenting in public and that energy is missing when presenting on Zoom. | Can you invite guests? If so, see it as a chance to invite friends and family that otherwise may have been unable to come by. I defended in March, still in person but already with reduced visitors and no real celebration, we couldn't do all traditions we usually do. My plans for the reception afterwards were cut short (especially since we moved the date forwards to avoid the impeading lockdown, which made the small celebration I could have super improviced). I would lie if I would say that I wasn't disappointed. *But* I also felt extremely relieved to be done, especially in these times. Looking back I rather would defend like that again, instead of waiting longer and not knowing when and how I might be able to defend. Sure, you could aim at 2021, but who knows when in-person defences will truely return? Early next year, late or not at all? And once they do, can you do the real-deal right away or only a smaller version? I am sure once you are done you'll feel similar. A bit sad how it went but overall relieved and happy that you are finally done. Make sure to plan a small celebration as possible and make the best out of that day. You can be extremely proud that you didn't have to move your defence but managed to finish this year. Finishing is a huge achievement. | 1 | 9,504 | 3.4 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gaphgyj | gapsw6b | 1,604,159,990 | 1,604,166,252 | 4 | 17 | Just do it again when covid is over! You can organize like a seminar about your topic, perhaps invite some colleagues who give layman talks on your topic as well and invite some experts with whom you'll have a discussion (you decide who!) and invite all your friends and family to join and then still have dinner and party afterwards! The nice thing is that you will be able to make all the rules for that day! In a sense the fact that you can decouple the stressy parts and the celebratory parts is actually pretty nice. | At least you have a boyfriend to have dinner with. I'm just going to close Zoom and then have a glass of champagne with my dog. And my family don't even live in the same country as me. It sucks. It's so anti-climactic. I love presenting in public and that energy is missing when presenting on Zoom. | 0 | 6,262 | 4.25 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gap8b6l | gapsw6b | 1,604,154,551 | 1,604,166,252 | 3 | 17 | I'm so sorry, I would be in the same boat as you. It just sucks. Maybe you can tell yourself that despite all the shit going on, and everyone around the world having their plans disrupted, you managed to achieve something incredible. And it gives kind of a historical significance to the event, and a good story to tell in the future. Try and make the most of it, have an online defense party with your coworkers and friends. This is still a happy occasion even though it doesn't follow your expectations. Not perfect things can be good, in a different way. You rock and it should be celebrated. | At least you have a boyfriend to have dinner with. I'm just going to close Zoom and then have a glass of champagne with my dog. And my family don't even live in the same country as me. It sucks. It's so anti-climactic. I love presenting in public and that energy is missing when presenting on Zoom. | 0 | 11,701 | 5.666667 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapsw6b | gapd1sy | 1,604,166,252 | 1,604,157,436 | 17 | 3 | At least you have a boyfriend to have dinner with. I'm just going to close Zoom and then have a glass of champagne with my dog. And my family don't even live in the same country as me. It sucks. It's so anti-climactic. I love presenting in public and that energy is missing when presenting on Zoom. | Focus on defending your PhD thesis. Regardless of the medium you present with passing and failing will both feel the same the next day. | 1 | 8,816 | 5.666667 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapcq84 | gapsw6b | 1,604,157,245 | 1,604,166,252 | 3 | 17 | People are having covid weddings, having covid babies, not being allowed to see loved ones die in the hospital. So yeah, not having a dream defense is a bit sad, but there could be worse things. You're getting the degree. | At least you have a boyfriend to have dinner with. I'm just going to close Zoom and then have a glass of champagne with my dog. And my family don't even live in the same country as me. It sucks. It's so anti-climactic. I love presenting in public and that energy is missing when presenting on Zoom. | 0 | 9,007 | 5.666667 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapsw6b | gapcx7n | 1,604,166,252 | 1,604,157,361 | 17 | 2 | At least you have a boyfriend to have dinner with. I'm just going to close Zoom and then have a glass of champagne with my dog. And my family don't even live in the same country as me. It sucks. It's so anti-climactic. I love presenting in public and that energy is missing when presenting on Zoom. | I just defended in early October, and gave my defense over Zoom! It was definitely not what I had pictured going into grad school, but with everything going on it is what it is at this point. I was able to give the link out to basically my whole department and select friends and family (I could have given it to anyone but I didn’t want it to get out of hand). I will agree that the part that made me most sad was that I couldn’t really say a proper goodbye to the people in my department—and we’re a pretty social group so we all know each other and get along. I did get to say thanks and goodbye to my lab group, because my advisor had a small, socially distanced celebration the weekend after I defended. But even that wasn’t exactly how I pictured going out. But honestly? I’m just so glad to be done that I almost don’t really care about HOW it had to happen. Just that it did. | 1 | 8,891 | 8.5 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gaphr7v | gapsw6b | 1,604,160,151 | 1,604,166,252 | 2 | 17 | I’m defending in a week and leaving shortly after. I feel you. Just a few weeks before the pandemic I was thinking about how grateful I was for this town and my friends and how I wanted to soak everything in before I leave. Then I never got to. | At least you have a boyfriend to have dinner with. I'm just going to close Zoom and then have a glass of champagne with my dog. And my family don't even live in the same country as me. It sucks. It's so anti-climactic. I love presenting in public and that energy is missing when presenting on Zoom. | 0 | 6,101 | 8.5 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gap6fw0 | gapbwqu | 1,604,153,385 | 1,604,156,755 | 16 | 17 | I'm in the exact same boat right now and still working through it as well. It really, really sucks, but it won't make the PhD any less valid when you get it | From experience, you will not want to have a party or do much of anything the actual night of your defense. I was wrung out and exhausted. I get the rite of passage desire, though, and I'd suggest you work to try to make a plan for something you - maybe with your boyfriend's help - can do to mark it properly. Definitely let your research group know you'd like a chance to celebrate and say goodbye - while it's not the same, they may be up for organising a hangout on Zoom or similar. | 0 | 3,370 | 1.0625 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapbwqu | gapbwbx | 1,604,156,755 | 1,604,156,748 | 17 | 5 | From experience, you will not want to have a party or do much of anything the actual night of your defense. I was wrung out and exhausted. I get the rite of passage desire, though, and I'd suggest you work to try to make a plan for something you - maybe with your boyfriend's help - can do to mark it properly. Definitely let your research group know you'd like a chance to celebrate and say goodbye - while it's not the same, they may be up for organising a hangout on Zoom or similar. | Can you invite guests? If so, see it as a chance to invite friends and family that otherwise may have been unable to come by. I defended in March, still in person but already with reduced visitors and no real celebration, we couldn't do all traditions we usually do. My plans for the reception afterwards were cut short (especially since we moved the date forwards to avoid the impeading lockdown, which made the small celebration I could have super improviced). I would lie if I would say that I wasn't disappointed. *But* I also felt extremely relieved to be done, especially in these times. Looking back I rather would defend like that again, instead of waiting longer and not knowing when and how I might be able to defend. Sure, you could aim at 2021, but who knows when in-person defences will truely return? Early next year, late or not at all? And once they do, can you do the real-deal right away or only a smaller version? I am sure once you are done you'll feel similar. A bit sad how it went but overall relieved and happy that you are finally done. Make sure to plan a small celebration as possible and make the best out of that day. You can be extremely proud that you didn't have to move your defence but managed to finish this year. Finishing is a huge achievement. | 1 | 7 | 3.4 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gap8b6l | gapbwqu | 1,604,154,551 | 1,604,156,755 | 3 | 17 | I'm so sorry, I would be in the same boat as you. It just sucks. Maybe you can tell yourself that despite all the shit going on, and everyone around the world having their plans disrupted, you managed to achieve something incredible. And it gives kind of a historical significance to the event, and a good story to tell in the future. Try and make the most of it, have an online defense party with your coworkers and friends. This is still a happy occasion even though it doesn't follow your expectations. Not perfect things can be good, in a different way. You rock and it should be celebrated. | From experience, you will not want to have a party or do much of anything the actual night of your defense. I was wrung out and exhausted. I get the rite of passage desire, though, and I'd suggest you work to try to make a plan for something you - maybe with your boyfriend's help - can do to mark it properly. Definitely let your research group know you'd like a chance to celebrate and say goodbye - while it's not the same, they may be up for organising a hangout on Zoom or similar. | 0 | 2,204 | 5.666667 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gaprlof | gapcc3v | 1,604,165,571 | 1,604,157,013 | 15 | 9 | I’m a bit confused about inviting friends and family to a defense? Is this a normal thing in your program or country? My defense was strictly the committee and me, I mean the offer is on the table but it always seemed weird to invite family Members to watch me explain a bunch of math they don’t understand. | I defended back in April, and I hear you, it was *not * what I had pictured in all the years leading up to it. *But* I did find a couple of bonuses I didn’t expect — I was actually a lot more relaxed doing it at home than I would’ve been otherwise (though I did miss that in-person energy), which was a big plus. The biggest benefit by far was that I was able to invite people to watch online who never would’ve been able to make it to an in-person defense. I had really old friends as well as folks who had finished before me, who lived hundreds or thousands of miles away, and who were able to be an important part of that final step. That ended up being a big deal for me, and it happened because the online format opened it up so that I could invite whoever I wanted. Regardless of the format, and like others have written, you’ll soon be done!! And that is a big accomplishment. | 1 | 8,558 | 1.666667 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gappy6t | gaprlof | 1,604,164,686 | 1,604,165,571 | 9 | 15 | My PhD student had to defend online last week. It was very sudden. They moved defenses online again only 2 days before her date. We were so upset...she worked hard for it. But we still tried to make a good day. We invited her whole family to an organised zoom afterwards and drew a mural together about how proud we are of her. It is not the same.. but you need to be proud! You did it! You are amazing and you need to be proud! Wishing you strength and success! | I’m a bit confused about inviting friends and family to a defense? Is this a normal thing in your program or country? My defense was strictly the committee and me, I mean the offer is on the table but it always seemed weird to invite family Members to watch me explain a bunch of math they don’t understand. | 0 | 885 | 1.666667 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapf6zp | gaprlof | 1,604,158,684 | 1,604,165,571 | 5 | 15 | It totally sucks. But remember that the event is being glorified in your mind. A lot of people had in-person defenses that didn’t go the way they wanted because of a grumpy committee member, or being asked to do extra experiments they didn’t want to do, by not being allowed to graduate yet because someone thought they weren’t ready... Many people are too exhausted to even have the celebration they wanted the after their thesis defense. Maybe it would have been the amazing day you’re imagining but maybe not. But again, it totally sucks also. | I’m a bit confused about inviting friends and family to a defense? Is this a normal thing in your program or country? My defense was strictly the committee and me, I mean the offer is on the table but it always seemed weird to invite family Members to watch me explain a bunch of math they don’t understand. | 0 | 6,887 | 3 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapg19u | gaprlof | 1,604,159,165 | 1,604,165,571 | 4 | 15 | I defended over zoom and I quite liked it actually. It was really nice to be in my space. | I’m a bit confused about inviting friends and family to a defense? Is this a normal thing in your program or country? My defense was strictly the committee and me, I mean the offer is on the table but it always seemed weird to invite family Members to watch me explain a bunch of math they don’t understand. | 0 | 6,406 | 3.75 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapbwbx | gaprlof | 1,604,156,748 | 1,604,165,571 | 5 | 15 | Can you invite guests? If so, see it as a chance to invite friends and family that otherwise may have been unable to come by. I defended in March, still in person but already with reduced visitors and no real celebration, we couldn't do all traditions we usually do. My plans for the reception afterwards were cut short (especially since we moved the date forwards to avoid the impeading lockdown, which made the small celebration I could have super improviced). I would lie if I would say that I wasn't disappointed. *But* I also felt extremely relieved to be done, especially in these times. Looking back I rather would defend like that again, instead of waiting longer and not knowing when and how I might be able to defend. Sure, you could aim at 2021, but who knows when in-person defences will truely return? Early next year, late or not at all? And once they do, can you do the real-deal right away or only a smaller version? I am sure once you are done you'll feel similar. A bit sad how it went but overall relieved and happy that you are finally done. Make sure to plan a small celebration as possible and make the best out of that day. You can be extremely proud that you didn't have to move your defence but managed to finish this year. Finishing is a huge achievement. | I’m a bit confused about inviting friends and family to a defense? Is this a normal thing in your program or country? My defense was strictly the committee and me, I mean the offer is on the table but it always seemed weird to invite family Members to watch me explain a bunch of math they don’t understand. | 0 | 8,823 | 3 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gaprlof | gaphgyj | 1,604,165,571 | 1,604,159,990 | 15 | 4 | I’m a bit confused about inviting friends and family to a defense? Is this a normal thing in your program or country? My defense was strictly the committee and me, I mean the offer is on the table but it always seemed weird to invite family Members to watch me explain a bunch of math they don’t understand. | Just do it again when covid is over! You can organize like a seminar about your topic, perhaps invite some colleagues who give layman talks on your topic as well and invite some experts with whom you'll have a discussion (you decide who!) and invite all your friends and family to join and then still have dinner and party afterwards! The nice thing is that you will be able to make all the rules for that day! In a sense the fact that you can decouple the stressy parts and the celebratory parts is actually pretty nice. | 1 | 5,581 | 3.75 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gap8b6l | gaprlof | 1,604,154,551 | 1,604,165,571 | 3 | 15 | I'm so sorry, I would be in the same boat as you. It just sucks. Maybe you can tell yourself that despite all the shit going on, and everyone around the world having their plans disrupted, you managed to achieve something incredible. And it gives kind of a historical significance to the event, and a good story to tell in the future. Try and make the most of it, have an online defense party with your coworkers and friends. This is still a happy occasion even though it doesn't follow your expectations. Not perfect things can be good, in a different way. You rock and it should be celebrated. | I’m a bit confused about inviting friends and family to a defense? Is this a normal thing in your program or country? My defense was strictly the committee and me, I mean the offer is on the table but it always seemed weird to invite family Members to watch me explain a bunch of math they don’t understand. | 0 | 11,020 | 5 |
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