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jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gaprlof | gapd1sy | 1,604,165,571 | 1,604,157,436 | 15 | 3 | I’m a bit confused about inviting friends and family to a defense? Is this a normal thing in your program or country? My defense was strictly the committee and me, I mean the offer is on the table but it always seemed weird to invite family Members to watch me explain a bunch of math they don’t understand. | Focus on defending your PhD thesis. Regardless of the medium you present with passing and failing will both feel the same the next day. | 1 | 8,135 | 5 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gaprlof | gapcq84 | 1,604,165,571 | 1,604,157,245 | 15 | 3 | I’m a bit confused about inviting friends and family to a defense? Is this a normal thing in your program or country? My defense was strictly the committee and me, I mean the offer is on the table but it always seemed weird to invite family Members to watch me explain a bunch of math they don’t understand. | People are having covid weddings, having covid babies, not being allowed to see loved ones die in the hospital. So yeah, not having a dream defense is a bit sad, but there could be worse things. You're getting the degree. | 1 | 8,326 | 5 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gaprlof | gapcx7n | 1,604,165,571 | 1,604,157,361 | 15 | 2 | I’m a bit confused about inviting friends and family to a defense? Is this a normal thing in your program or country? My defense was strictly the committee and me, I mean the offer is on the table but it always seemed weird to invite family Members to watch me explain a bunch of math they don’t understand. | I just defended in early October, and gave my defense over Zoom! It was definitely not what I had pictured going into grad school, but with everything going on it is what it is at this point. I was able to give the link out to basically my whole department and select friends and family (I could have given it to anyone but I didn’t want it to get out of hand). I will agree that the part that made me most sad was that I couldn’t really say a proper goodbye to the people in my department—and we’re a pretty social group so we all know each other and get along. I did get to say thanks and goodbye to my lab group, because my advisor had a small, socially distanced celebration the weekend after I defended. But even that wasn’t exactly how I pictured going out. But honestly? I’m just so glad to be done that I almost don’t really care about HOW it had to happen. Just that it did. | 1 | 8,210 | 7.5 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gaphr7v | gaprlof | 1,604,160,151 | 1,604,165,571 | 2 | 15 | I’m defending in a week and leaving shortly after. I feel you. Just a few weeks before the pandemic I was thinking about how grateful I was for this town and my friends and how I wanted to soak everything in before I leave. Then I never got to. | I’m a bit confused about inviting friends and family to a defense? Is this a normal thing in your program or country? My defense was strictly the committee and me, I mean the offer is on the table but it always seemed weird to invite family Members to watch me explain a bunch of math they don’t understand. | 0 | 5,420 | 7.5 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapbwbx | gapcc3v | 1,604,156,748 | 1,604,157,013 | 5 | 9 | Can you invite guests? If so, see it as a chance to invite friends and family that otherwise may have been unable to come by. I defended in March, still in person but already with reduced visitors and no real celebration, we couldn't do all traditions we usually do. My plans for the reception afterwards were cut short (especially since we moved the date forwards to avoid the impeading lockdown, which made the small celebration I could have super improviced). I would lie if I would say that I wasn't disappointed. *But* I also felt extremely relieved to be done, especially in these times. Looking back I rather would defend like that again, instead of waiting longer and not knowing when and how I might be able to defend. Sure, you could aim at 2021, but who knows when in-person defences will truely return? Early next year, late or not at all? And once they do, can you do the real-deal right away or only a smaller version? I am sure once you are done you'll feel similar. A bit sad how it went but overall relieved and happy that you are finally done. Make sure to plan a small celebration as possible and make the best out of that day. You can be extremely proud that you didn't have to move your defence but managed to finish this year. Finishing is a huge achievement. | I defended back in April, and I hear you, it was *not * what I had pictured in all the years leading up to it. *But* I did find a couple of bonuses I didn’t expect — I was actually a lot more relaxed doing it at home than I would’ve been otherwise (though I did miss that in-person energy), which was a big plus. The biggest benefit by far was that I was able to invite people to watch online who never would’ve been able to make it to an in-person defense. I had really old friends as well as folks who had finished before me, who lived hundreds or thousands of miles away, and who were able to be an important part of that final step. That ended up being a big deal for me, and it happened because the online format opened it up so that I could invite whoever I wanted. Regardless of the format, and like others have written, you’ll soon be done!! And that is a big accomplishment. | 0 | 265 | 1.8 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gap8b6l | gapcc3v | 1,604,154,551 | 1,604,157,013 | 3 | 9 | I'm so sorry, I would be in the same boat as you. It just sucks. Maybe you can tell yourself that despite all the shit going on, and everyone around the world having their plans disrupted, you managed to achieve something incredible. And it gives kind of a historical significance to the event, and a good story to tell in the future. Try and make the most of it, have an online defense party with your coworkers and friends. This is still a happy occasion even though it doesn't follow your expectations. Not perfect things can be good, in a different way. You rock and it should be celebrated. | I defended back in April, and I hear you, it was *not * what I had pictured in all the years leading up to it. *But* I did find a couple of bonuses I didn’t expect — I was actually a lot more relaxed doing it at home than I would’ve been otherwise (though I did miss that in-person energy), which was a big plus. The biggest benefit by far was that I was able to invite people to watch online who never would’ve been able to make it to an in-person defense. I had really old friends as well as folks who had finished before me, who lived hundreds or thousands of miles away, and who were able to be an important part of that final step. That ended up being a big deal for me, and it happened because the online format opened it up so that I could invite whoever I wanted. Regardless of the format, and like others have written, you’ll soon be done!! And that is a big accomplishment. | 0 | 2,462 | 3 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapf6zp | gappy6t | 1,604,158,684 | 1,604,164,686 | 5 | 9 | It totally sucks. But remember that the event is being glorified in your mind. A lot of people had in-person defenses that didn’t go the way they wanted because of a grumpy committee member, or being asked to do extra experiments they didn’t want to do, by not being allowed to graduate yet because someone thought they weren’t ready... Many people are too exhausted to even have the celebration they wanted the after their thesis defense. Maybe it would have been the amazing day you’re imagining but maybe not. But again, it totally sucks also. | My PhD student had to defend online last week. It was very sudden. They moved defenses online again only 2 days before her date. We were so upset...she worked hard for it. But we still tried to make a good day. We invited her whole family to an organised zoom afterwards and drew a mural together about how proud we are of her. It is not the same.. but you need to be proud! You did it! You are amazing and you need to be proud! Wishing you strength and success! | 0 | 6,002 | 1.8 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapg19u | gappy6t | 1,604,159,165 | 1,604,164,686 | 4 | 9 | I defended over zoom and I quite liked it actually. It was really nice to be in my space. | My PhD student had to defend online last week. It was very sudden. They moved defenses online again only 2 days before her date. We were so upset...she worked hard for it. But we still tried to make a good day. We invited her whole family to an organised zoom afterwards and drew a mural together about how proud we are of her. It is not the same.. but you need to be proud! You did it! You are amazing and you need to be proud! Wishing you strength and success! | 0 | 5,521 | 2.25 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gappy6t | gapbwbx | 1,604,164,686 | 1,604,156,748 | 9 | 5 | My PhD student had to defend online last week. It was very sudden. They moved defenses online again only 2 days before her date. We were so upset...she worked hard for it. But we still tried to make a good day. We invited her whole family to an organised zoom afterwards and drew a mural together about how proud we are of her. It is not the same.. but you need to be proud! You did it! You are amazing and you need to be proud! Wishing you strength and success! | Can you invite guests? If so, see it as a chance to invite friends and family that otherwise may have been unable to come by. I defended in March, still in person but already with reduced visitors and no real celebration, we couldn't do all traditions we usually do. My plans for the reception afterwards were cut short (especially since we moved the date forwards to avoid the impeading lockdown, which made the small celebration I could have super improviced). I would lie if I would say that I wasn't disappointed. *But* I also felt extremely relieved to be done, especially in these times. Looking back I rather would defend like that again, instead of waiting longer and not knowing when and how I might be able to defend. Sure, you could aim at 2021, but who knows when in-person defences will truely return? Early next year, late or not at all? And once they do, can you do the real-deal right away or only a smaller version? I am sure once you are done you'll feel similar. A bit sad how it went but overall relieved and happy that you are finally done. Make sure to plan a small celebration as possible and make the best out of that day. You can be extremely proud that you didn't have to move your defence but managed to finish this year. Finishing is a huge achievement. | 1 | 7,938 | 1.8 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gappy6t | gaphgyj | 1,604,164,686 | 1,604,159,990 | 9 | 4 | My PhD student had to defend online last week. It was very sudden. They moved defenses online again only 2 days before her date. We were so upset...she worked hard for it. But we still tried to make a good day. We invited her whole family to an organised zoom afterwards and drew a mural together about how proud we are of her. It is not the same.. but you need to be proud! You did it! You are amazing and you need to be proud! Wishing you strength and success! | Just do it again when covid is over! You can organize like a seminar about your topic, perhaps invite some colleagues who give layman talks on your topic as well and invite some experts with whom you'll have a discussion (you decide who!) and invite all your friends and family to join and then still have dinner and party afterwards! The nice thing is that you will be able to make all the rules for that day! In a sense the fact that you can decouple the stressy parts and the celebratory parts is actually pretty nice. | 1 | 4,696 | 2.25 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gappy6t | gap8b6l | 1,604,164,686 | 1,604,154,551 | 9 | 3 | My PhD student had to defend online last week. It was very sudden. They moved defenses online again only 2 days before her date. We were so upset...she worked hard for it. But we still tried to make a good day. We invited her whole family to an organised zoom afterwards and drew a mural together about how proud we are of her. It is not the same.. but you need to be proud! You did it! You are amazing and you need to be proud! Wishing you strength and success! | I'm so sorry, I would be in the same boat as you. It just sucks. Maybe you can tell yourself that despite all the shit going on, and everyone around the world having their plans disrupted, you managed to achieve something incredible. And it gives kind of a historical significance to the event, and a good story to tell in the future. Try and make the most of it, have an online defense party with your coworkers and friends. This is still a happy occasion even though it doesn't follow your expectations. Not perfect things can be good, in a different way. You rock and it should be celebrated. | 1 | 10,135 | 3 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gappy6t | gapd1sy | 1,604,164,686 | 1,604,157,436 | 9 | 3 | My PhD student had to defend online last week. It was very sudden. They moved defenses online again only 2 days before her date. We were so upset...she worked hard for it. But we still tried to make a good day. We invited her whole family to an organised zoom afterwards and drew a mural together about how proud we are of her. It is not the same.. but you need to be proud! You did it! You are amazing and you need to be proud! Wishing you strength and success! | Focus on defending your PhD thesis. Regardless of the medium you present with passing and failing will both feel the same the next day. | 1 | 7,250 | 3 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapcq84 | gappy6t | 1,604,157,245 | 1,604,164,686 | 3 | 9 | People are having covid weddings, having covid babies, not being allowed to see loved ones die in the hospital. So yeah, not having a dream defense is a bit sad, but there could be worse things. You're getting the degree. | My PhD student had to defend online last week. It was very sudden. They moved defenses online again only 2 days before her date. We were so upset...she worked hard for it. But we still tried to make a good day. We invited her whole family to an organised zoom afterwards and drew a mural together about how proud we are of her. It is not the same.. but you need to be proud! You did it! You are amazing and you need to be proud! Wishing you strength and success! | 0 | 7,441 | 3 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapcx7n | gappy6t | 1,604,157,361 | 1,604,164,686 | 2 | 9 | I just defended in early October, and gave my defense over Zoom! It was definitely not what I had pictured going into grad school, but with everything going on it is what it is at this point. I was able to give the link out to basically my whole department and select friends and family (I could have given it to anyone but I didn’t want it to get out of hand). I will agree that the part that made me most sad was that I couldn’t really say a proper goodbye to the people in my department—and we’re a pretty social group so we all know each other and get along. I did get to say thanks and goodbye to my lab group, because my advisor had a small, socially distanced celebration the weekend after I defended. But even that wasn’t exactly how I pictured going out. But honestly? I’m just so glad to be done that I almost don’t really care about HOW it had to happen. Just that it did. | My PhD student had to defend online last week. It was very sudden. They moved defenses online again only 2 days before her date. We were so upset...she worked hard for it. But we still tried to make a good day. We invited her whole family to an organised zoom afterwards and drew a mural together about how proud we are of her. It is not the same.. but you need to be proud! You did it! You are amazing and you need to be proud! Wishing you strength and success! | 0 | 7,325 | 4.5 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gaphr7v | gappy6t | 1,604,160,151 | 1,604,164,686 | 2 | 9 | I’m defending in a week and leaving shortly after. I feel you. Just a few weeks before the pandemic I was thinking about how grateful I was for this town and my friends and how I wanted to soak everything in before I leave. Then I never got to. | My PhD student had to defend online last week. It was very sudden. They moved defenses online again only 2 days before her date. We were so upset...she worked hard for it. But we still tried to make a good day. We invited her whole family to an organised zoom afterwards and drew a mural together about how proud we are of her. It is not the same.. but you need to be proud! You did it! You are amazing and you need to be proud! Wishing you strength and success! | 0 | 4,535 | 4.5 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapf6zp | gap8b6l | 1,604,158,684 | 1,604,154,551 | 5 | 3 | It totally sucks. But remember that the event is being glorified in your mind. A lot of people had in-person defenses that didn’t go the way they wanted because of a grumpy committee member, or being asked to do extra experiments they didn’t want to do, by not being allowed to graduate yet because someone thought they weren’t ready... Many people are too exhausted to even have the celebration they wanted the after their thesis defense. Maybe it would have been the amazing day you’re imagining but maybe not. But again, it totally sucks also. | I'm so sorry, I would be in the same boat as you. It just sucks. Maybe you can tell yourself that despite all the shit going on, and everyone around the world having their plans disrupted, you managed to achieve something incredible. And it gives kind of a historical significance to the event, and a good story to tell in the future. Try and make the most of it, have an online defense party with your coworkers and friends. This is still a happy occasion even though it doesn't follow your expectations. Not perfect things can be good, in a different way. You rock and it should be celebrated. | 1 | 4,133 | 1.666667 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapd1sy | gapf6zp | 1,604,157,436 | 1,604,158,684 | 3 | 5 | Focus on defending your PhD thesis. Regardless of the medium you present with passing and failing will both feel the same the next day. | It totally sucks. But remember that the event is being glorified in your mind. A lot of people had in-person defenses that didn’t go the way they wanted because of a grumpy committee member, or being asked to do extra experiments they didn’t want to do, by not being allowed to graduate yet because someone thought they weren’t ready... Many people are too exhausted to even have the celebration they wanted the after their thesis defense. Maybe it would have been the amazing day you’re imagining but maybe not. But again, it totally sucks also. | 0 | 1,248 | 1.666667 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapf6zp | gapcq84 | 1,604,158,684 | 1,604,157,245 | 5 | 3 | It totally sucks. But remember that the event is being glorified in your mind. A lot of people had in-person defenses that didn’t go the way they wanted because of a grumpy committee member, or being asked to do extra experiments they didn’t want to do, by not being allowed to graduate yet because someone thought they weren’t ready... Many people are too exhausted to even have the celebration they wanted the after their thesis defense. Maybe it would have been the amazing day you’re imagining but maybe not. But again, it totally sucks also. | People are having covid weddings, having covid babies, not being allowed to see loved ones die in the hospital. So yeah, not having a dream defense is a bit sad, but there could be worse things. You're getting the degree. | 1 | 1,439 | 1.666667 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapcx7n | gapf6zp | 1,604,157,361 | 1,604,158,684 | 2 | 5 | I just defended in early October, and gave my defense over Zoom! It was definitely not what I had pictured going into grad school, but with everything going on it is what it is at this point. I was able to give the link out to basically my whole department and select friends and family (I could have given it to anyone but I didn’t want it to get out of hand). I will agree that the part that made me most sad was that I couldn’t really say a proper goodbye to the people in my department—and we’re a pretty social group so we all know each other and get along. I did get to say thanks and goodbye to my lab group, because my advisor had a small, socially distanced celebration the weekend after I defended. But even that wasn’t exactly how I pictured going out. But honestly? I’m just so glad to be done that I almost don’t really care about HOW it had to happen. Just that it did. | It totally sucks. But remember that the event is being glorified in your mind. A lot of people had in-person defenses that didn’t go the way they wanted because of a grumpy committee member, or being asked to do extra experiments they didn’t want to do, by not being allowed to graduate yet because someone thought they weren’t ready... Many people are too exhausted to even have the celebration they wanted the after their thesis defense. Maybe it would have been the amazing day you’re imagining but maybe not. But again, it totally sucks also. | 0 | 1,323 | 2.5 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapg19u | gap8b6l | 1,604,159,165 | 1,604,154,551 | 4 | 3 | I defended over zoom and I quite liked it actually. It was really nice to be in my space. | I'm so sorry, I would be in the same boat as you. It just sucks. Maybe you can tell yourself that despite all the shit going on, and everyone around the world having their plans disrupted, you managed to achieve something incredible. And it gives kind of a historical significance to the event, and a good story to tell in the future. Try and make the most of it, have an online defense party with your coworkers and friends. This is still a happy occasion even though it doesn't follow your expectations. Not perfect things can be good, in a different way. You rock and it should be celebrated. | 1 | 4,614 | 1.333333 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapg19u | gapd1sy | 1,604,159,165 | 1,604,157,436 | 4 | 3 | I defended over zoom and I quite liked it actually. It was really nice to be in my space. | Focus on defending your PhD thesis. Regardless of the medium you present with passing and failing will both feel the same the next day. | 1 | 1,729 | 1.333333 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapcq84 | gapg19u | 1,604,157,245 | 1,604,159,165 | 3 | 4 | People are having covid weddings, having covid babies, not being allowed to see loved ones die in the hospital. So yeah, not having a dream defense is a bit sad, but there could be worse things. You're getting the degree. | I defended over zoom and I quite liked it actually. It was really nice to be in my space. | 0 | 1,920 | 1.333333 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapcx7n | gapg19u | 1,604,157,361 | 1,604,159,165 | 2 | 4 | I just defended in early October, and gave my defense over Zoom! It was definitely not what I had pictured going into grad school, but with everything going on it is what it is at this point. I was able to give the link out to basically my whole department and select friends and family (I could have given it to anyone but I didn’t want it to get out of hand). I will agree that the part that made me most sad was that I couldn’t really say a proper goodbye to the people in my department—and we’re a pretty social group so we all know each other and get along. I did get to say thanks and goodbye to my lab group, because my advisor had a small, socially distanced celebration the weekend after I defended. But even that wasn’t exactly how I pictured going out. But honestly? I’m just so glad to be done that I almost don’t really care about HOW it had to happen. Just that it did. | I defended over zoom and I quite liked it actually. It was really nice to be in my space. | 0 | 1,804 | 2 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gap8b6l | gapbwbx | 1,604,154,551 | 1,604,156,748 | 3 | 5 | I'm so sorry, I would be in the same boat as you. It just sucks. Maybe you can tell yourself that despite all the shit going on, and everyone around the world having their plans disrupted, you managed to achieve something incredible. And it gives kind of a historical significance to the event, and a good story to tell in the future. Try and make the most of it, have an online defense party with your coworkers and friends. This is still a happy occasion even though it doesn't follow your expectations. Not perfect things can be good, in a different way. You rock and it should be celebrated. | Can you invite guests? If so, see it as a chance to invite friends and family that otherwise may have been unable to come by. I defended in March, still in person but already with reduced visitors and no real celebration, we couldn't do all traditions we usually do. My plans for the reception afterwards were cut short (especially since we moved the date forwards to avoid the impeading lockdown, which made the small celebration I could have super improviced). I would lie if I would say that I wasn't disappointed. *But* I also felt extremely relieved to be done, especially in these times. Looking back I rather would defend like that again, instead of waiting longer and not knowing when and how I might be able to defend. Sure, you could aim at 2021, but who knows when in-person defences will truely return? Early next year, late or not at all? And once they do, can you do the real-deal right away or only a smaller version? I am sure once you are done you'll feel similar. A bit sad how it went but overall relieved and happy that you are finally done. Make sure to plan a small celebration as possible and make the best out of that day. You can be extremely proud that you didn't have to move your defence but managed to finish this year. Finishing is a huge achievement. | 0 | 2,197 | 1.666667 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gap8b6l | gaphgyj | 1,604,154,551 | 1,604,159,990 | 3 | 4 | I'm so sorry, I would be in the same boat as you. It just sucks. Maybe you can tell yourself that despite all the shit going on, and everyone around the world having their plans disrupted, you managed to achieve something incredible. And it gives kind of a historical significance to the event, and a good story to tell in the future. Try and make the most of it, have an online defense party with your coworkers and friends. This is still a happy occasion even though it doesn't follow your expectations. Not perfect things can be good, in a different way. You rock and it should be celebrated. | Just do it again when covid is over! You can organize like a seminar about your topic, perhaps invite some colleagues who give layman talks on your topic as well and invite some experts with whom you'll have a discussion (you decide who!) and invite all your friends and family to join and then still have dinner and party afterwards! The nice thing is that you will be able to make all the rules for that day! In a sense the fact that you can decouple the stressy parts and the celebratory parts is actually pretty nice. | 0 | 5,439 | 1.333333 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gaphgyj | gapd1sy | 1,604,159,990 | 1,604,157,436 | 4 | 3 | Just do it again when covid is over! You can organize like a seminar about your topic, perhaps invite some colleagues who give layman talks on your topic as well and invite some experts with whom you'll have a discussion (you decide who!) and invite all your friends and family to join and then still have dinner and party afterwards! The nice thing is that you will be able to make all the rules for that day! In a sense the fact that you can decouple the stressy parts and the celebratory parts is actually pretty nice. | Focus on defending your PhD thesis. Regardless of the medium you present with passing and failing will both feel the same the next day. | 1 | 2,554 | 1.333333 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapcq84 | gaphgyj | 1,604,157,245 | 1,604,159,990 | 3 | 4 | People are having covid weddings, having covid babies, not being allowed to see loved ones die in the hospital. So yeah, not having a dream defense is a bit sad, but there could be worse things. You're getting the degree. | Just do it again when covid is over! You can organize like a seminar about your topic, perhaps invite some colleagues who give layman talks on your topic as well and invite some experts with whom you'll have a discussion (you decide who!) and invite all your friends and family to join and then still have dinner and party afterwards! The nice thing is that you will be able to make all the rules for that day! In a sense the fact that you can decouple the stressy parts and the celebratory parts is actually pretty nice. | 0 | 2,745 | 1.333333 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gaphgyj | gapcx7n | 1,604,159,990 | 1,604,157,361 | 4 | 2 | Just do it again when covid is over! You can organize like a seminar about your topic, perhaps invite some colleagues who give layman talks on your topic as well and invite some experts with whom you'll have a discussion (you decide who!) and invite all your friends and family to join and then still have dinner and party afterwards! The nice thing is that you will be able to make all the rules for that day! In a sense the fact that you can decouple the stressy parts and the celebratory parts is actually pretty nice. | I just defended in early October, and gave my defense over Zoom! It was definitely not what I had pictured going into grad school, but with everything going on it is what it is at this point. I was able to give the link out to basically my whole department and select friends and family (I could have given it to anyone but I didn’t want it to get out of hand). I will agree that the part that made me most sad was that I couldn’t really say a proper goodbye to the people in my department—and we’re a pretty social group so we all know each other and get along. I did get to say thanks and goodbye to my lab group, because my advisor had a small, socially distanced celebration the weekend after I defended. But even that wasn’t exactly how I pictured going out. But honestly? I’m just so glad to be done that I almost don’t really care about HOW it had to happen. Just that it did. | 1 | 2,629 | 2 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapz33m | gap8b6l | 1,604,169,604 | 1,604,154,551 | 4 | 3 | Sorry about this and don't want to sound like a Pollyanna. But - there are a ton more people at thesis defenses now. More people that are friends and family will be able to come than before - so that is kind of nice for all of them and you. | I'm so sorry, I would be in the same boat as you. It just sucks. Maybe you can tell yourself that despite all the shit going on, and everyone around the world having their plans disrupted, you managed to achieve something incredible. And it gives kind of a historical significance to the event, and a good story to tell in the future. Try and make the most of it, have an online defense party with your coworkers and friends. This is still a happy occasion even though it doesn't follow your expectations. Not perfect things can be good, in a different way. You rock and it should be celebrated. | 1 | 15,053 | 1.333333 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapz33m | gapd1sy | 1,604,169,604 | 1,604,157,436 | 4 | 3 | Sorry about this and don't want to sound like a Pollyanna. But - there are a ton more people at thesis defenses now. More people that are friends and family will be able to come than before - so that is kind of nice for all of them and you. | Focus on defending your PhD thesis. Regardless of the medium you present with passing and failing will both feel the same the next day. | 1 | 12,168 | 1.333333 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapz33m | gapcq84 | 1,604,169,604 | 1,604,157,245 | 4 | 3 | Sorry about this and don't want to sound like a Pollyanna. But - there are a ton more people at thesis defenses now. More people that are friends and family will be able to come than before - so that is kind of nice for all of them and you. | People are having covid weddings, having covid babies, not being allowed to see loved ones die in the hospital. So yeah, not having a dream defense is a bit sad, but there could be worse things. You're getting the degree. | 1 | 12,359 | 1.333333 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapz33m | gapcx7n | 1,604,169,604 | 1,604,157,361 | 4 | 2 | Sorry about this and don't want to sound like a Pollyanna. But - there are a ton more people at thesis defenses now. More people that are friends and family will be able to come than before - so that is kind of nice for all of them and you. | I just defended in early October, and gave my defense over Zoom! It was definitely not what I had pictured going into grad school, but with everything going on it is what it is at this point. I was able to give the link out to basically my whole department and select friends and family (I could have given it to anyone but I didn’t want it to get out of hand). I will agree that the part that made me most sad was that I couldn’t really say a proper goodbye to the people in my department—and we’re a pretty social group so we all know each other and get along. I did get to say thanks and goodbye to my lab group, because my advisor had a small, socially distanced celebration the weekend after I defended. But even that wasn’t exactly how I pictured going out. But honestly? I’m just so glad to be done that I almost don’t really care about HOW it had to happen. Just that it did. | 1 | 12,243 | 2 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapz33m | gaphr7v | 1,604,169,604 | 1,604,160,151 | 4 | 2 | Sorry about this and don't want to sound like a Pollyanna. But - there are a ton more people at thesis defenses now. More people that are friends and family will be able to come than before - so that is kind of nice for all of them and you. | I’m defending in a week and leaving shortly after. I feel you. Just a few weeks before the pandemic I was thinking about how grateful I was for this town and my friends and how I wanted to soak everything in before I leave. Then I never got to. | 1 | 9,453 | 2 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gaptrko | gapz33m | 1,604,166,732 | 1,604,169,604 | 2 | 4 | I defended in July, online obviously. I was also quite sad about this, as the defense was something I had been looking forward to for years, including the party after. The benefit was that some family was able to attend over zoom, people who never would have been able to come in person, as well as some colleagues currently out of the country. It was nice to share my work with family in a way that would have been impossible otherwise. It wasn’t the same, of course, but that was definitely a silver lining and don’t let anything else diffuse the joy of completing such a massive undertaking. | Sorry about this and don't want to sound like a Pollyanna. But - there are a ton more people at thesis defenses now. More people that are friends and family will be able to come than before - so that is kind of nice for all of them and you. | 0 | 2,872 | 2 |
jlixda | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Anyone else depressed about defending their thesis online because of COVID? For YEARS, basically since I started my PhD, I have been dreaming about my thesis defense. I was going to invite all my friends and family and have a giant party afterwards. I have been working so hard for months now and I haven't seen most of my friends for ages, so I was really looking forward to my thesis defense to see them again at last. And now... all that is gone. I have to defend online, alone at home, and maybe have an at-home dinner with my boyfriend afterwards rather than the giant party I always dreamed of. I also had to leave the university quite quickly after my PhD contract ended because of a job opportunity, and I was counting on my thesis defense to properly say goodbye to my research group + everyone else in the department. Not going to happen now... and I have to leave the country for a postdoc in January 2021 so I can't postpone the defense to next year. I am kind of devastated. Does anyone have any advice? I am so sad about this but I don't think there are any other options for me. | gapd1sy | gapcx7n | 1,604,157,436 | 1,604,157,361 | 3 | 2 | Focus on defending your PhD thesis. Regardless of the medium you present with passing and failing will both feel the same the next day. | I just defended in early October, and gave my defense over Zoom! It was definitely not what I had pictured going into grad school, but with everything going on it is what it is at this point. I was able to give the link out to basically my whole department and select friends and family (I could have given it to anyone but I didn’t want it to get out of hand). I will agree that the part that made me most sad was that I couldn’t really say a proper goodbye to the people in my department—and we’re a pretty social group so we all know each other and get along. I did get to say thanks and goodbye to my lab group, because my advisor had a small, socially distanced celebration the weekend after I defended. But even that wasn’t exactly how I pictured going out. But honestly? I’m just so glad to be done that I almost don’t really care about HOW it had to happen. Just that it did. | 1 | 75 | 1.5 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq2fidk | iq2l6sq | 1,664,253,678 | 1,664,257,530 | 61 | 310 | I mean... it’s the government that wants them to do those things? Public universities are run by the government, through appointed boards of regents/trustees. There is a public desire for them to be run in a way that minimizes the need for public funds, and sports and alumni donations are a huge part of that. Policies and salaries of public institutions are largely controlled by the state government. Public will for increased funding isn’t generally there. In fact, states are consistently cutting back on investment in higher education because it’s politically unpopular many places. It’s not as regulated as K12 because it doesn’t deal with minors, but rather adults. Moreover, public universities aren’t about profiting: they’re about breaking even on the costs and minimizing the amount of subsidy necessary. Not sure why you think they’re trying to be “profitable” or what you mean by that. In fact, most universities including private are non-profit entities. | Money, dude. It's money. | 0 | 3,852 | 5.081967 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq2fidk | iq3neri | 1,664,253,678 | 1,664,285,093 | 61 | 147 | I mean... it’s the government that wants them to do those things? Public universities are run by the government, through appointed boards of regents/trustees. There is a public desire for them to be run in a way that minimizes the need for public funds, and sports and alumni donations are a huge part of that. Policies and salaries of public institutions are largely controlled by the state government. Public will for increased funding isn’t generally there. In fact, states are consistently cutting back on investment in higher education because it’s politically unpopular many places. It’s not as regulated as K12 because it doesn’t deal with minors, but rather adults. Moreover, public universities aren’t about profiting: they’re about breaking even on the costs and minimizing the amount of subsidy necessary. Not sure why you think they’re trying to be “profitable” or what you mean by that. In fact, most universities including private are non-profit entities. | For many of us in the USA, the proportion of our budget that comes from the state has dropped below 10%. It used to be 30-40% a few decades ago. We gotta keep the lights on, so there's been a big shift to keep patents, get grants, partner with business, and any other way to generate revenue. Many colleges at R-1 universities have faculty that average over $500k in external funds per year. Back in the day, tax money enabled state unis to be substantially cheaper than posh private schools. Those days are long gone, and the relentless drive for revenue is the only way to keep from having sky high tuition. The crappy thing is even though the state doesn't pay much for public universities, they still retain governance authority. With the anti-science/anti-reality shift in US politics, it's quite bad in some areas. | 0 | 31,415 | 2.409836 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq3do7n | iq3neri | 1,664,280,015 | 1,664,285,093 | 31 | 147 | It also kind of baffles me how many years of study you ask of your students in some fields. For example, a capable 18 year old can start medical school in most countries straight from school. In the US you must be a postgraduate. That's either a money making scheme or a problem with the public education system. | For many of us in the USA, the proportion of our budget that comes from the state has dropped below 10%. It used to be 30-40% a few decades ago. We gotta keep the lights on, so there's been a big shift to keep patents, get grants, partner with business, and any other way to generate revenue. Many colleges at R-1 universities have faculty that average over $500k in external funds per year. Back in the day, tax money enabled state unis to be substantially cheaper than posh private schools. Those days are long gone, and the relentless drive for revenue is the only way to keep from having sky high tuition. The crappy thing is even though the state doesn't pay much for public universities, they still retain governance authority. With the anti-science/anti-reality shift in US politics, it's quite bad in some areas. | 0 | 5,078 | 4.741935 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq3neri | iq2wwq1 | 1,664,285,093 | 1,664,267,143 | 147 | 19 | For many of us in the USA, the proportion of our budget that comes from the state has dropped below 10%. It used to be 30-40% a few decades ago. We gotta keep the lights on, so there's been a big shift to keep patents, get grants, partner with business, and any other way to generate revenue. Many colleges at R-1 universities have faculty that average over $500k in external funds per year. Back in the day, tax money enabled state unis to be substantially cheaper than posh private schools. Those days are long gone, and the relentless drive for revenue is the only way to keep from having sky high tuition. The crappy thing is even though the state doesn't pay much for public universities, they still retain governance authority. With the anti-science/anti-reality shift in US politics, it's quite bad in some areas. | It's interesting what's happened with the American university system in the last 30 years. They are run like businesses because they are. But they are also incredibly bloated and not suffering the consequences that normal businesses would in the same circumstances. It will be fascinating to see how this develops in the next 10-20 years. | 1 | 17,950 | 7.736842 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq3gw28 | iq3neri | 1,664,281,808 | 1,664,285,093 | 7 | 147 | Everything in America is run like a business. Money and business are the cultural gods that are worshiped, sacrificed for, and offered all that we have of value to. | For many of us in the USA, the proportion of our budget that comes from the state has dropped below 10%. It used to be 30-40% a few decades ago. We gotta keep the lights on, so there's been a big shift to keep patents, get grants, partner with business, and any other way to generate revenue. Many colleges at R-1 universities have faculty that average over $500k in external funds per year. Back in the day, tax money enabled state unis to be substantially cheaper than posh private schools. Those days are long gone, and the relentless drive for revenue is the only way to keep from having sky high tuition. The crappy thing is even though the state doesn't pay much for public universities, they still retain governance authority. With the anti-science/anti-reality shift in US politics, it's quite bad in some areas. | 0 | 3,285 | 21 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq31jqt | iq3neri | 1,664,271,326 | 1,664,285,093 | 4 | 147 | Unpopular opinion: there’s no guarantee that some folks sitting in a government office will do a much better job than the the admin who work for the university and at least know a bit about what’s actually happening. I’m not saying universities are wonderful right now but the chance of government improving stuff isn’t that much higher than the chance that they screw up… | For many of us in the USA, the proportion of our budget that comes from the state has dropped below 10%. It used to be 30-40% a few decades ago. We gotta keep the lights on, so there's been a big shift to keep patents, get grants, partner with business, and any other way to generate revenue. Many colleges at R-1 universities have faculty that average over $500k in external funds per year. Back in the day, tax money enabled state unis to be substantially cheaper than posh private schools. Those days are long gone, and the relentless drive for revenue is the only way to keep from having sky high tuition. The crappy thing is even though the state doesn't pay much for public universities, they still retain governance authority. With the anti-science/anti-reality shift in US politics, it's quite bad in some areas. | 0 | 13,767 | 36.75 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq3neri | iq3bmb5 | 1,664,285,093 | 1,664,278,799 | 147 | 3 | For many of us in the USA, the proportion of our budget that comes from the state has dropped below 10%. It used to be 30-40% a few decades ago. We gotta keep the lights on, so there's been a big shift to keep patents, get grants, partner with business, and any other way to generate revenue. Many colleges at R-1 universities have faculty that average over $500k in external funds per year. Back in the day, tax money enabled state unis to be substantially cheaper than posh private schools. Those days are long gone, and the relentless drive for revenue is the only way to keep from having sky high tuition. The crappy thing is even though the state doesn't pay much for public universities, they still retain governance authority. With the anti-science/anti-reality shift in US politics, it's quite bad in some areas. | Neoliberalism | 1 | 6,294 | 49 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq2wwq1 | iq3do7n | 1,664,267,143 | 1,664,280,015 | 19 | 31 | It's interesting what's happened with the American university system in the last 30 years. They are run like businesses because they are. But they are also incredibly bloated and not suffering the consequences that normal businesses would in the same circumstances. It will be fascinating to see how this develops in the next 10-20 years. | It also kind of baffles me how many years of study you ask of your students in some fields. For example, a capable 18 year old can start medical school in most countries straight from school. In the US you must be a postgraduate. That's either a money making scheme or a problem with the public education system. | 0 | 12,872 | 1.631579 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq3do7n | iq31jqt | 1,664,280,015 | 1,664,271,326 | 31 | 4 | It also kind of baffles me how many years of study you ask of your students in some fields. For example, a capable 18 year old can start medical school in most countries straight from school. In the US you must be a postgraduate. That's either a money making scheme or a problem with the public education system. | Unpopular opinion: there’s no guarantee that some folks sitting in a government office will do a much better job than the the admin who work for the university and at least know a bit about what’s actually happening. I’m not saying universities are wonderful right now but the chance of government improving stuff isn’t that much higher than the chance that they screw up… | 1 | 8,689 | 7.75 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq3do7n | iq3bmb5 | 1,664,280,015 | 1,664,278,799 | 31 | 3 | It also kind of baffles me how many years of study you ask of your students in some fields. For example, a capable 18 year old can start medical school in most countries straight from school. In the US you must be a postgraduate. That's either a money making scheme or a problem with the public education system. | Neoliberalism | 1 | 1,216 | 10.333333 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq4o133 | iq2wwq1 | 1,664,300,013 | 1,664,267,143 | 29 | 19 | Something I don't think I saw mentioned is the administrative creep of higher ed. Universities used to be largely run through a process of shared governance where faculty had a major voice in the running of a university. Faculty generally have preferences to spend university resources on teaching and research. This voice has greatly eroded over time. I have served on many executive level search committees and they will talk about there being an academic side and a business side and that faculty should have no voice in the business operations of a university. What this also means is that faculty have little to no voice in the budget of a university. I've been at 5 different universities, and all of them had a rough budget breakdown of about 1/3 toward academics and 2/3 toward non-academics. That 2/3 also controls the budget and those people are business people. They are lawyers, accountants, finance, MBAs, HR, marketing, all the same type people you see running any other business or non-profit. We have people freely move between us and a hospital system or a large corporation or any other large organization. They run the university and many (yes I'm stereotyping, but I have run into too many of these) have disdain for the faculty and students. Their job is to audit books or check off compliance reports and the academic mission of the institution just makes their job harder to do. So it all becomes about a mindset. The people really running universities run it like a business because they are the people that also run businesses. | It's interesting what's happened with the American university system in the last 30 years. They are run like businesses because they are. But they are also incredibly bloated and not suffering the consequences that normal businesses would in the same circumstances. It will be fascinating to see how this develops in the next 10-20 years. | 1 | 32,870 | 1.526316 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq4o133 | iq3r4cu | 1,664,300,013 | 1,664,286,808 | 29 | 18 | Something I don't think I saw mentioned is the administrative creep of higher ed. Universities used to be largely run through a process of shared governance where faculty had a major voice in the running of a university. Faculty generally have preferences to spend university resources on teaching and research. This voice has greatly eroded over time. I have served on many executive level search committees and they will talk about there being an academic side and a business side and that faculty should have no voice in the business operations of a university. What this also means is that faculty have little to no voice in the budget of a university. I've been at 5 different universities, and all of them had a rough budget breakdown of about 1/3 toward academics and 2/3 toward non-academics. That 2/3 also controls the budget and those people are business people. They are lawyers, accountants, finance, MBAs, HR, marketing, all the same type people you see running any other business or non-profit. We have people freely move between us and a hospital system or a large corporation or any other large organization. They run the university and many (yes I'm stereotyping, but I have run into too many of these) have disdain for the faculty and students. Their job is to audit books or check off compliance reports and the academic mission of the institution just makes their job harder to do. So it all becomes about a mindset. The people really running universities run it like a business because they are the people that also run businesses. | The answer, as always, is capitalism. Longer answer: As funding and support for public universities has grown more and more precarious, there was increasing political and economic pressure to emphasize credentialing and "preparing students for the workforce" over the rest of the liberal arts and sciences. This led to increasing dependence on donations from wealthy alumni and businesses, which led to a reduction of power for faculty and departments and an increase in power for upper administration and the boards of trustees, the latter of which are rarely academics or scholars but business types. The University of Louisville, for example, used to have the CEO of Papa John's on its board, among others. These trustees don't particularly know or care about the quality of education except insofar as it boost the university's reputation and enrollment. This means they want their money invested into expensive vanity projects (new buildings with their names on them, athletics in non-athletic schools, whiz-bang technology and software that everyone hates, expensive guest speakers, etc.), which creates budget shortfalls, which leads to increased tuition and the hiring of MORE upper administrators (who are outrageously well paid) to manage these expensive projects that no student or faculty want or need. This leads to corporatization of academia, which leads to greater support for "useful" majors like business, which by the way, are mostly taught and run by retired industry people who the trustees are pals with rather than scholars (who go into economics if they study finances). Since all of these problems are caused by the people who benefit most from them, and those same people are in charge of budget and policy, this leads to a self-perpetuating cascade of skyrocketing tuition, more and more admin, and weaker quality of actual education and research. | 1 | 13,205 | 1.611111 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq4o133 | iq4m0po | 1,664,300,013 | 1,664,299,230 | 29 | 9 | Something I don't think I saw mentioned is the administrative creep of higher ed. Universities used to be largely run through a process of shared governance where faculty had a major voice in the running of a university. Faculty generally have preferences to spend university resources on teaching and research. This voice has greatly eroded over time. I have served on many executive level search committees and they will talk about there being an academic side and a business side and that faculty should have no voice in the business operations of a university. What this also means is that faculty have little to no voice in the budget of a university. I've been at 5 different universities, and all of them had a rough budget breakdown of about 1/3 toward academics and 2/3 toward non-academics. That 2/3 also controls the budget and those people are business people. They are lawyers, accountants, finance, MBAs, HR, marketing, all the same type people you see running any other business or non-profit. We have people freely move between us and a hospital system or a large corporation or any other large organization. They run the university and many (yes I'm stereotyping, but I have run into too many of these) have disdain for the faculty and students. Their job is to audit books or check off compliance reports and the academic mission of the institution just makes their job harder to do. So it all becomes about a mindset. The people really running universities run it like a business because they are the people that also run businesses. | As a 30-year college prof and someone who spent a year on sabbatical in a business -- I can assure you that universities are *not* run like businesses. Businesses (at least the functional ones) pay attention to their customers, spend tons of resources developing products, and understand the idea that just because you were profitable in the past doesn't mean that you'll survive in the future. I have yet to come across a university that adopts that same set of behaviors. | 1 | 783 | 3.222222 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq3gw28 | iq4o133 | 1,664,281,808 | 1,664,300,013 | 7 | 29 | Everything in America is run like a business. Money and business are the cultural gods that are worshiped, sacrificed for, and offered all that we have of value to. | Something I don't think I saw mentioned is the administrative creep of higher ed. Universities used to be largely run through a process of shared governance where faculty had a major voice in the running of a university. Faculty generally have preferences to spend university resources on teaching and research. This voice has greatly eroded over time. I have served on many executive level search committees and they will talk about there being an academic side and a business side and that faculty should have no voice in the business operations of a university. What this also means is that faculty have little to no voice in the budget of a university. I've been at 5 different universities, and all of them had a rough budget breakdown of about 1/3 toward academics and 2/3 toward non-academics. That 2/3 also controls the budget and those people are business people. They are lawyers, accountants, finance, MBAs, HR, marketing, all the same type people you see running any other business or non-profit. We have people freely move between us and a hospital system or a large corporation or any other large organization. They run the university and many (yes I'm stereotyping, but I have run into too many of these) have disdain for the faculty and students. Their job is to audit books or check off compliance reports and the academic mission of the institution just makes their job harder to do. So it all becomes about a mindset. The people really running universities run it like a business because they are the people that also run businesses. | 0 | 18,205 | 4.142857 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq4o133 | iq31jqt | 1,664,300,013 | 1,664,271,326 | 29 | 4 | Something I don't think I saw mentioned is the administrative creep of higher ed. Universities used to be largely run through a process of shared governance where faculty had a major voice in the running of a university. Faculty generally have preferences to spend university resources on teaching and research. This voice has greatly eroded over time. I have served on many executive level search committees and they will talk about there being an academic side and a business side and that faculty should have no voice in the business operations of a university. What this also means is that faculty have little to no voice in the budget of a university. I've been at 5 different universities, and all of them had a rough budget breakdown of about 1/3 toward academics and 2/3 toward non-academics. That 2/3 also controls the budget and those people are business people. They are lawyers, accountants, finance, MBAs, HR, marketing, all the same type people you see running any other business or non-profit. We have people freely move between us and a hospital system or a large corporation or any other large organization. They run the university and many (yes I'm stereotyping, but I have run into too many of these) have disdain for the faculty and students. Their job is to audit books or check off compliance reports and the academic mission of the institution just makes their job harder to do. So it all becomes about a mindset. The people really running universities run it like a business because they are the people that also run businesses. | Unpopular opinion: there’s no guarantee that some folks sitting in a government office will do a much better job than the the admin who work for the university and at least know a bit about what’s actually happening. I’m not saying universities are wonderful right now but the chance of government improving stuff isn’t that much higher than the chance that they screw up… | 1 | 28,687 | 7.25 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq4o133 | iq3bmb5 | 1,664,300,013 | 1,664,278,799 | 29 | 3 | Something I don't think I saw mentioned is the administrative creep of higher ed. Universities used to be largely run through a process of shared governance where faculty had a major voice in the running of a university. Faculty generally have preferences to spend university resources on teaching and research. This voice has greatly eroded over time. I have served on many executive level search committees and they will talk about there being an academic side and a business side and that faculty should have no voice in the business operations of a university. What this also means is that faculty have little to no voice in the budget of a university. I've been at 5 different universities, and all of them had a rough budget breakdown of about 1/3 toward academics and 2/3 toward non-academics. That 2/3 also controls the budget and those people are business people. They are lawyers, accountants, finance, MBAs, HR, marketing, all the same type people you see running any other business or non-profit. We have people freely move between us and a hospital system or a large corporation or any other large organization. They run the university and many (yes I'm stereotyping, but I have run into too many of these) have disdain for the faculty and students. Their job is to audit books or check off compliance reports and the academic mission of the institution just makes their job harder to do. So it all becomes about a mindset. The people really running universities run it like a business because they are the people that also run businesses. | Neoliberalism | 1 | 21,214 | 9.666667 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq3tnk8 | iq4o133 | 1,664,287,922 | 1,664,300,013 | 3 | 29 | We have somehow made it so that instead of employers paying employees during training, students and the government pay for their own job training at the expense of actual academics. I’m simplifying, but think about how far something Philosophy, once the cornerstone of academic disciplines, has fallen in favor. And it’s common to hear, through barely contained rage, “Why did you get a degree in gender studies instead of a business degree?” As if one were supposed to not learn academics in academia. Or, as once observed: “The bourgeoisie has stripped of its halo every occupation hitherto honoured and looked up to with reverent awe. It has converted the physician, the lawyer, the priest, the poet, the man of science, into its paid wage labourers…It compels all nations, on pain of extinction, to adopt the bourgeois mode of production; it compels them to introduce what it calls civilisation into their midst, i.e., to become bourgeois themselves. In one word, it creates a world after its own image.” -Marx and Engels | Something I don't think I saw mentioned is the administrative creep of higher ed. Universities used to be largely run through a process of shared governance where faculty had a major voice in the running of a university. Faculty generally have preferences to spend university resources on teaching and research. This voice has greatly eroded over time. I have served on many executive level search committees and they will talk about there being an academic side and a business side and that faculty should have no voice in the business operations of a university. What this also means is that faculty have little to no voice in the budget of a university. I've been at 5 different universities, and all of them had a rough budget breakdown of about 1/3 toward academics and 2/3 toward non-academics. That 2/3 also controls the budget and those people are business people. They are lawyers, accountants, finance, MBAs, HR, marketing, all the same type people you see running any other business or non-profit. We have people freely move between us and a hospital system or a large corporation or any other large organization. They run the university and many (yes I'm stereotyping, but I have run into too many of these) have disdain for the faculty and students. Their job is to audit books or check off compliance reports and the academic mission of the institution just makes their job harder to do. So it all becomes about a mindset. The people really running universities run it like a business because they are the people that also run businesses. | 0 | 12,091 | 9.666667 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq3xi9p | iq4o133 | 1,664,289,553 | 1,664,300,013 | 2 | 29 | government-backed loans. you literally can't lose. | Something I don't think I saw mentioned is the administrative creep of higher ed. Universities used to be largely run through a process of shared governance where faculty had a major voice in the running of a university. Faculty generally have preferences to spend university resources on teaching and research. This voice has greatly eroded over time. I have served on many executive level search committees and they will talk about there being an academic side and a business side and that faculty should have no voice in the business operations of a university. What this also means is that faculty have little to no voice in the budget of a university. I've been at 5 different universities, and all of them had a rough budget breakdown of about 1/3 toward academics and 2/3 toward non-academics. That 2/3 also controls the budget and those people are business people. They are lawyers, accountants, finance, MBAs, HR, marketing, all the same type people you see running any other business or non-profit. We have people freely move between us and a hospital system or a large corporation or any other large organization. They run the university and many (yes I'm stereotyping, but I have run into too many of these) have disdain for the faculty and students. Their job is to audit books or check off compliance reports and the academic mission of the institution just makes their job harder to do. So it all becomes about a mindset. The people really running universities run it like a business because they are the people that also run businesses. | 0 | 10,460 | 14.5 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq40gei | iq4o133 | 1,664,290,771 | 1,664,300,013 | 2 | 29 | Well that's because they're mostly businesses | Something I don't think I saw mentioned is the administrative creep of higher ed. Universities used to be largely run through a process of shared governance where faculty had a major voice in the running of a university. Faculty generally have preferences to spend university resources on teaching and research. This voice has greatly eroded over time. I have served on many executive level search committees and they will talk about there being an academic side and a business side and that faculty should have no voice in the business operations of a university. What this also means is that faculty have little to no voice in the budget of a university. I've been at 5 different universities, and all of them had a rough budget breakdown of about 1/3 toward academics and 2/3 toward non-academics. That 2/3 also controls the budget and those people are business people. They are lawyers, accountants, finance, MBAs, HR, marketing, all the same type people you see running any other business or non-profit. We have people freely move between us and a hospital system or a large corporation or any other large organization. They run the university and many (yes I'm stereotyping, but I have run into too many of these) have disdain for the faculty and students. Their job is to audit books or check off compliance reports and the academic mission of the institution just makes their job harder to do. So it all becomes about a mindset. The people really running universities run it like a business because they are the people that also run businesses. | 0 | 9,242 | 14.5 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq4o133 | iq44pes | 1,664,300,013 | 1,664,292,490 | 29 | 2 | Something I don't think I saw mentioned is the administrative creep of higher ed. Universities used to be largely run through a process of shared governance where faculty had a major voice in the running of a university. Faculty generally have preferences to spend university resources on teaching and research. This voice has greatly eroded over time. I have served on many executive level search committees and they will talk about there being an academic side and a business side and that faculty should have no voice in the business operations of a university. What this also means is that faculty have little to no voice in the budget of a university. I've been at 5 different universities, and all of them had a rough budget breakdown of about 1/3 toward academics and 2/3 toward non-academics. That 2/3 also controls the budget and those people are business people. They are lawyers, accountants, finance, MBAs, HR, marketing, all the same type people you see running any other business or non-profit. We have people freely move between us and a hospital system or a large corporation or any other large organization. They run the university and many (yes I'm stereotyping, but I have run into too many of these) have disdain for the faculty and students. Their job is to audit books or check off compliance reports and the academic mission of the institution just makes their job harder to do. So it all becomes about a mindset. The people really running universities run it like a business because they are the people that also run businesses. | Because they are …. | 1 | 7,523 | 14.5 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq3r4cu | iq3gw28 | 1,664,286,808 | 1,664,281,808 | 18 | 7 | The answer, as always, is capitalism. Longer answer: As funding and support for public universities has grown more and more precarious, there was increasing political and economic pressure to emphasize credentialing and "preparing students for the workforce" over the rest of the liberal arts and sciences. This led to increasing dependence on donations from wealthy alumni and businesses, which led to a reduction of power for faculty and departments and an increase in power for upper administration and the boards of trustees, the latter of which are rarely academics or scholars but business types. The University of Louisville, for example, used to have the CEO of Papa John's on its board, among others. These trustees don't particularly know or care about the quality of education except insofar as it boost the university's reputation and enrollment. This means they want their money invested into expensive vanity projects (new buildings with their names on them, athletics in non-athletic schools, whiz-bang technology and software that everyone hates, expensive guest speakers, etc.), which creates budget shortfalls, which leads to increased tuition and the hiring of MORE upper administrators (who are outrageously well paid) to manage these expensive projects that no student or faculty want or need. This leads to corporatization of academia, which leads to greater support for "useful" majors like business, which by the way, are mostly taught and run by retired industry people who the trustees are pals with rather than scholars (who go into economics if they study finances). Since all of these problems are caused by the people who benefit most from them, and those same people are in charge of budget and policy, this leads to a self-perpetuating cascade of skyrocketing tuition, more and more admin, and weaker quality of actual education and research. | Everything in America is run like a business. Money and business are the cultural gods that are worshiped, sacrificed for, and offered all that we have of value to. | 1 | 5,000 | 2.571429 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq31jqt | iq3r4cu | 1,664,271,326 | 1,664,286,808 | 4 | 18 | Unpopular opinion: there’s no guarantee that some folks sitting in a government office will do a much better job than the the admin who work for the university and at least know a bit about what’s actually happening. I’m not saying universities are wonderful right now but the chance of government improving stuff isn’t that much higher than the chance that they screw up… | The answer, as always, is capitalism. Longer answer: As funding and support for public universities has grown more and more precarious, there was increasing political and economic pressure to emphasize credentialing and "preparing students for the workforce" over the rest of the liberal arts and sciences. This led to increasing dependence on donations from wealthy alumni and businesses, which led to a reduction of power for faculty and departments and an increase in power for upper administration and the boards of trustees, the latter of which are rarely academics or scholars but business types. The University of Louisville, for example, used to have the CEO of Papa John's on its board, among others. These trustees don't particularly know or care about the quality of education except insofar as it boost the university's reputation and enrollment. This means they want their money invested into expensive vanity projects (new buildings with their names on them, athletics in non-athletic schools, whiz-bang technology and software that everyone hates, expensive guest speakers, etc.), which creates budget shortfalls, which leads to increased tuition and the hiring of MORE upper administrators (who are outrageously well paid) to manage these expensive projects that no student or faculty want or need. This leads to corporatization of academia, which leads to greater support for "useful" majors like business, which by the way, are mostly taught and run by retired industry people who the trustees are pals with rather than scholars (who go into economics if they study finances). Since all of these problems are caused by the people who benefit most from them, and those same people are in charge of budget and policy, this leads to a self-perpetuating cascade of skyrocketing tuition, more and more admin, and weaker quality of actual education and research. | 0 | 15,482 | 4.5 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq3r4cu | iq3bmb5 | 1,664,286,808 | 1,664,278,799 | 18 | 3 | The answer, as always, is capitalism. Longer answer: As funding and support for public universities has grown more and more precarious, there was increasing political and economic pressure to emphasize credentialing and "preparing students for the workforce" over the rest of the liberal arts and sciences. This led to increasing dependence on donations from wealthy alumni and businesses, which led to a reduction of power for faculty and departments and an increase in power for upper administration and the boards of trustees, the latter of which are rarely academics or scholars but business types. The University of Louisville, for example, used to have the CEO of Papa John's on its board, among others. These trustees don't particularly know or care about the quality of education except insofar as it boost the university's reputation and enrollment. This means they want their money invested into expensive vanity projects (new buildings with their names on them, athletics in non-athletic schools, whiz-bang technology and software that everyone hates, expensive guest speakers, etc.), which creates budget shortfalls, which leads to increased tuition and the hiring of MORE upper administrators (who are outrageously well paid) to manage these expensive projects that no student or faculty want or need. This leads to corporatization of academia, which leads to greater support for "useful" majors like business, which by the way, are mostly taught and run by retired industry people who the trustees are pals with rather than scholars (who go into economics if they study finances). Since all of these problems are caused by the people who benefit most from them, and those same people are in charge of budget and policy, this leads to a self-perpetuating cascade of skyrocketing tuition, more and more admin, and weaker quality of actual education and research. | Neoliberalism | 1 | 8,009 | 6 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq3gw28 | iq4m0po | 1,664,281,808 | 1,664,299,230 | 7 | 9 | Everything in America is run like a business. Money and business are the cultural gods that are worshiped, sacrificed for, and offered all that we have of value to. | As a 30-year college prof and someone who spent a year on sabbatical in a business -- I can assure you that universities are *not* run like businesses. Businesses (at least the functional ones) pay attention to their customers, spend tons of resources developing products, and understand the idea that just because you were profitable in the past doesn't mean that you'll survive in the future. I have yet to come across a university that adopts that same set of behaviors. | 0 | 17,422 | 1.285714 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq4m0po | iq31jqt | 1,664,299,230 | 1,664,271,326 | 9 | 4 | As a 30-year college prof and someone who spent a year on sabbatical in a business -- I can assure you that universities are *not* run like businesses. Businesses (at least the functional ones) pay attention to their customers, spend tons of resources developing products, and understand the idea that just because you were profitable in the past doesn't mean that you'll survive in the future. I have yet to come across a university that adopts that same set of behaviors. | Unpopular opinion: there’s no guarantee that some folks sitting in a government office will do a much better job than the the admin who work for the university and at least know a bit about what’s actually happening. I’m not saying universities are wonderful right now but the chance of government improving stuff isn’t that much higher than the chance that they screw up… | 1 | 27,904 | 2.25 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq4m0po | iq3bmb5 | 1,664,299,230 | 1,664,278,799 | 9 | 3 | As a 30-year college prof and someone who spent a year on sabbatical in a business -- I can assure you that universities are *not* run like businesses. Businesses (at least the functional ones) pay attention to their customers, spend tons of resources developing products, and understand the idea that just because you were profitable in the past doesn't mean that you'll survive in the future. I have yet to come across a university that adopts that same set of behaviors. | Neoliberalism | 1 | 20,431 | 3 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq4m0po | iq3tnk8 | 1,664,299,230 | 1,664,287,922 | 9 | 3 | As a 30-year college prof and someone who spent a year on sabbatical in a business -- I can assure you that universities are *not* run like businesses. Businesses (at least the functional ones) pay attention to their customers, spend tons of resources developing products, and understand the idea that just because you were profitable in the past doesn't mean that you'll survive in the future. I have yet to come across a university that adopts that same set of behaviors. | We have somehow made it so that instead of employers paying employees during training, students and the government pay for their own job training at the expense of actual academics. I’m simplifying, but think about how far something Philosophy, once the cornerstone of academic disciplines, has fallen in favor. And it’s common to hear, through barely contained rage, “Why did you get a degree in gender studies instead of a business degree?” As if one were supposed to not learn academics in academia. Or, as once observed: “The bourgeoisie has stripped of its halo every occupation hitherto honoured and looked up to with reverent awe. It has converted the physician, the lawyer, the priest, the poet, the man of science, into its paid wage labourers…It compels all nations, on pain of extinction, to adopt the bourgeois mode of production; it compels them to introduce what it calls civilisation into their midst, i.e., to become bourgeois themselves. In one word, it creates a world after its own image.” -Marx and Engels | 1 | 11,308 | 3 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq3xi9p | iq4m0po | 1,664,289,553 | 1,664,299,230 | 2 | 9 | government-backed loans. you literally can't lose. | As a 30-year college prof and someone who spent a year on sabbatical in a business -- I can assure you that universities are *not* run like businesses. Businesses (at least the functional ones) pay attention to their customers, spend tons of resources developing products, and understand the idea that just because you were profitable in the past doesn't mean that you'll survive in the future. I have yet to come across a university that adopts that same set of behaviors. | 0 | 9,677 | 4.5 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq4m0po | iq40gei | 1,664,299,230 | 1,664,290,771 | 9 | 2 | As a 30-year college prof and someone who spent a year on sabbatical in a business -- I can assure you that universities are *not* run like businesses. Businesses (at least the functional ones) pay attention to their customers, spend tons of resources developing products, and understand the idea that just because you were profitable in the past doesn't mean that you'll survive in the future. I have yet to come across a university that adopts that same set of behaviors. | Well that's because they're mostly businesses | 1 | 8,459 | 4.5 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq4m0po | iq44pes | 1,664,299,230 | 1,664,292,490 | 9 | 2 | As a 30-year college prof and someone who spent a year on sabbatical in a business -- I can assure you that universities are *not* run like businesses. Businesses (at least the functional ones) pay attention to their customers, spend tons of resources developing products, and understand the idea that just because you were profitable in the past doesn't mean that you'll survive in the future. I have yet to come across a university that adopts that same set of behaviors. | Because they are …. | 1 | 6,740 | 4.5 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq3gw28 | iq31jqt | 1,664,281,808 | 1,664,271,326 | 7 | 4 | Everything in America is run like a business. Money and business are the cultural gods that are worshiped, sacrificed for, and offered all that we have of value to. | Unpopular opinion: there’s no guarantee that some folks sitting in a government office will do a much better job than the the admin who work for the university and at least know a bit about what’s actually happening. I’m not saying universities are wonderful right now but the chance of government improving stuff isn’t that much higher than the chance that they screw up… | 1 | 10,482 | 1.75 |
xp66g1 | askacademia_train | 0.94 | Why are American public universities run like businesses? In the US, many universities are public in that they're theoretically owned and operated by the government. Why is it then that they're allowed to set their own policy, salaries, hunt for alumni donations, build massive sports complexes, and focus on profitability over providing education as a public service and being more strictly regulated like elementary and high schools? | iq3gw28 | iq3bmb5 | 1,664,281,808 | 1,664,278,799 | 7 | 3 | Everything in America is run like a business. Money and business are the cultural gods that are worshiped, sacrificed for, and offered all that we have of value to. | Neoliberalism | 1 | 3,009 | 2.333333 |
yj7hr4 | askacademia_train | 0.92 | Accidentally outed a top student During lecture yesterday I was engaging with students and accidentally let slip that one of the students that answered a question had a perfect score on the midterm. Instant regret - but I can’t take that back obviously. I feel like I should write the student an email apologizing, is that sufficient? What would y’all do? | iummm1f | iummhwk | 1,667,312,525 | 1,667,312,477 | 270 | 35 | I would make the apology face to face. It is more personal and does not leave a paper trail. In my institution we are cautioned against ANY discussion of grades via email. | In Brazil, some years ago, grades would be publicly posted, for all students in a session. I think it really depends much on cultural aspects and/or legislation | 1 | 48 | 7.714286 |
yj7hr4 | askacademia_train | 0.92 | Accidentally outed a top student During lecture yesterday I was engaging with students and accidentally let slip that one of the students that answered a question had a perfect score on the midterm. Instant regret - but I can’t take that back obviously. I feel like I should write the student an email apologizing, is that sufficient? What would y’all do? | iunb6wq | iumulgt | 1,667,322,333 | 1,667,315,828 | 63 | 55 | I would not admit to a FERPA violation in writing | I had a professor do this to me twice. On our first exam while going over the results in class and the second exam by email to the entire class. It was certainly a little awkward especially since about half the class was at risk of failing. I didn’t think too much of it initially as I was a little proud to be doing well with apparently difficult material but it got uncomfortable when everyone started asking me how I was doing it/studying/etc. Especially when I wasn’t doing anything other than taking notes and completing the study guide he handed out. That’s where it gets rough because it’s hard to answer those questions in a way that won’t make your classmates resent you. That said, I think just a quick email acknowledging that you slipped and apologizing for any uncomfortable situations this might cause seems sufficient. My professor was still one I liked quite a lot. It’s not as though you called someone out for failing, your student knows your intentions weren’t negative. | 1 | 6,505 | 1.145455 |
yj7hr4 | askacademia_train | 0.92 | Accidentally outed a top student During lecture yesterday I was engaging with students and accidentally let slip that one of the students that answered a question had a perfect score on the midterm. Instant regret - but I can’t take that back obviously. I feel like I should write the student an email apologizing, is that sufficient? What would y’all do? | iunb6wq | iummhwk | 1,667,322,333 | 1,667,312,477 | 63 | 35 | I would not admit to a FERPA violation in writing | In Brazil, some years ago, grades would be publicly posted, for all students in a session. I think it really depends much on cultural aspects and/or legislation | 1 | 9,856 | 1.8 |
yj7hr4 | askacademia_train | 0.92 | Accidentally outed a top student During lecture yesterday I was engaging with students and accidentally let slip that one of the students that answered a question had a perfect score on the midterm. Instant regret - but I can’t take that back obviously. I feel like I should write the student an email apologizing, is that sufficient? What would y’all do? | iunb6wq | iumxn94 | 1,667,322,333 | 1,667,317,064 | 63 | 13 | I would not admit to a FERPA violation in writing | In my Diff EQ class the first test had a student who had a perfect score, he had her come up and get her test first and made a big deal out of it. I don't think she minded, she was beaming, and I had always interpreted it as a kudos, good job sort of deal, not really a singling out sort of thing. | 1 | 5,269 | 4.846154 |
yj7hr4 | askacademia_train | 0.92 | Accidentally outed a top student During lecture yesterday I was engaging with students and accidentally let slip that one of the students that answered a question had a perfect score on the midterm. Instant regret - but I can’t take that back obviously. I feel like I should write the student an email apologizing, is that sufficient? What would y’all do? | iunb6wq | iun8ubr | 1,667,322,333 | 1,667,321,441 | 63 | 9 | I would not admit to a FERPA violation in writing | This happen to me in my differential equations class. It was hilarious, I had skipped class after the exam, and didn't come in until Wednesday. The professor in front of the class said, just because you got a 100% doesn't mean you can skip class. I blushed and my friends cracked up laughing. I even had a bet with another friend that I beat him on the exam, and he got a 97, going into class I was like, fuck I'm gonna have to buy him a 6 pack. It's a fond memory. | 1 | 892 | 7 |
yj7hr4 | askacademia_train | 0.92 | Accidentally outed a top student During lecture yesterday I was engaging with students and accidentally let slip that one of the students that answered a question had a perfect score on the midterm. Instant regret - but I can’t take that back obviously. I feel like I should write the student an email apologizing, is that sufficient? What would y’all do? | iummhwk | iumulgt | 1,667,312,477 | 1,667,315,828 | 35 | 55 | In Brazil, some years ago, grades would be publicly posted, for all students in a session. I think it really depends much on cultural aspects and/or legislation | I had a professor do this to me twice. On our first exam while going over the results in class and the second exam by email to the entire class. It was certainly a little awkward especially since about half the class was at risk of failing. I didn’t think too much of it initially as I was a little proud to be doing well with apparently difficult material but it got uncomfortable when everyone started asking me how I was doing it/studying/etc. Especially when I wasn’t doing anything other than taking notes and completing the study guide he handed out. That’s where it gets rough because it’s hard to answer those questions in a way that won’t make your classmates resent you. That said, I think just a quick email acknowledging that you slipped and apologizing for any uncomfortable situations this might cause seems sufficient. My professor was still one I liked quite a lot. It’s not as though you called someone out for failing, your student knows your intentions weren’t negative. | 0 | 3,351 | 1.571429 |
yj7hr4 | askacademia_train | 0.92 | Accidentally outed a top student During lecture yesterday I was engaging with students and accidentally let slip that one of the students that answered a question had a perfect score on the midterm. Instant regret - but I can’t take that back obviously. I feel like I should write the student an email apologizing, is that sufficient? What would y’all do? | iuo13g9 | iumxn94 | 1,667,332,103 | 1,667,317,064 | 14 | 13 | I’m not sure if there’s a cultural difference or not here cause… what’s the big deal? | In my Diff EQ class the first test had a student who had a perfect score, he had her come up and get her test first and made a big deal out of it. I don't think she minded, she was beaming, and I had always interpreted it as a kudos, good job sort of deal, not really a singling out sort of thing. | 1 | 15,039 | 1.076923 |
yj7hr4 | askacademia_train | 0.92 | Accidentally outed a top student During lecture yesterday I was engaging with students and accidentally let slip that one of the students that answered a question had a perfect score on the midterm. Instant regret - but I can’t take that back obviously. I feel like I should write the student an email apologizing, is that sufficient? What would y’all do? | iuo13g9 | iunib7l | 1,667,332,103 | 1,667,325,014 | 14 | 12 | I’m not sure if there’s a cultural difference or not here cause… what’s the big deal? | My proudest moment was getting a professor to let everyone know I had the top score. I know it is not always alright, but I was beaming. | 1 | 7,089 | 1.166667 |
yj7hr4 | askacademia_train | 0.92 | Accidentally outed a top student During lecture yesterday I was engaging with students and accidentally let slip that one of the students that answered a question had a perfect score on the midterm. Instant regret - but I can’t take that back obviously. I feel like I should write the student an email apologizing, is that sufficient? What would y’all do? | iun8ubr | iuo13g9 | 1,667,321,441 | 1,667,332,103 | 9 | 14 | This happen to me in my differential equations class. It was hilarious, I had skipped class after the exam, and didn't come in until Wednesday. The professor in front of the class said, just because you got a 100% doesn't mean you can skip class. I blushed and my friends cracked up laughing. I even had a bet with another friend that I beat him on the exam, and he got a 97, going into class I was like, fuck I'm gonna have to buy him a 6 pack. It's a fond memory. | I’m not sure if there’s a cultural difference or not here cause… what’s the big deal? | 0 | 10,662 | 1.555556 |
yj7hr4 | askacademia_train | 0.92 | Accidentally outed a top student During lecture yesterday I was engaging with students and accidentally let slip that one of the students that answered a question had a perfect score on the midterm. Instant regret - but I can’t take that back obviously. I feel like I should write the student an email apologizing, is that sufficient? What would y’all do? | iuo13g9 | iuntc94 | 1,667,332,103 | 1,667,329,153 | 14 | 2 | I’m not sure if there’s a cultural difference or not here cause… what’s the big deal? | I had a professor in from an American university. He made it as a tradition to share three top scores on tests/exams/etc. | 1 | 2,950 | 7 |
yj7hr4 | askacademia_train | 0.92 | Accidentally outed a top student During lecture yesterday I was engaging with students and accidentally let slip that one of the students that answered a question had a perfect score on the midterm. Instant regret - but I can’t take that back obviously. I feel like I should write the student an email apologizing, is that sufficient? What would y’all do? | iunib7l | iun8ubr | 1,667,325,014 | 1,667,321,441 | 12 | 9 | My proudest moment was getting a professor to let everyone know I had the top score. I know it is not always alright, but I was beaming. | This happen to me in my differential equations class. It was hilarious, I had skipped class after the exam, and didn't come in until Wednesday. The professor in front of the class said, just because you got a 100% doesn't mean you can skip class. I blushed and my friends cracked up laughing. I even had a bet with another friend that I beat him on the exam, and he got a 97, going into class I was like, fuck I'm gonna have to buy him a 6 pack. It's a fond memory. | 1 | 3,573 | 1.333333 |
yj7hr4 | askacademia_train | 0.92 | Accidentally outed a top student During lecture yesterday I was engaging with students and accidentally let slip that one of the students that answered a question had a perfect score on the midterm. Instant regret - but I can’t take that back obviously. I feel like I should write the student an email apologizing, is that sufficient? What would y’all do? | iup5ck1 | iup0hqf | 1,667,348,297 | 1,667,346,229 | 9 | 8 | I don't think outing is the right term for this cause I thought you were talking about them being gay lmao | I had a professor tell the whole class I was the only one of her students who knew what was going on. (She said my name, but didn’t point me out). She then read my midterm essay answers out loud to the class as an example of what she was looking for on future tests. She dissected it in front of everyone. The very next week, she told me to my face that I was too stupid to take on my chosen final project. We all had to share our final project plans with her as we left class that day. Her response to my plan was that I wasn’t smart enough and should pick something less ambitious. I was so confused. Fast-forward a week and she asked to speak with (insert my name) after class. She wanted to chat with her best student. As I walked up, her eyes widened. She had no idea that it was me—that I was her best student. She actually started tripping over her words in what I assumed was embarrassment. I could tell right then she had pre-judged me based on my looks alone and hadn’t known my name. She thought my blonde hair and big boobs made me stupid, and it never crossed her mind that (insert my name) was me. I got no apology. At least you know who your students are. | 1 | 2,068 | 1.125 |
yj7hr4 | askacademia_train | 0.92 | Accidentally outed a top student During lecture yesterday I was engaging with students and accidentally let slip that one of the students that answered a question had a perfect score on the midterm. Instant regret - but I can’t take that back obviously. I feel like I should write the student an email apologizing, is that sufficient? What would y’all do? | iup5ck1 | iuodz0t | 1,667,348,297 | 1,667,336,956 | 9 | 7 | I don't think outing is the right term for this cause I thought you were talking about them being gay lmao | 'Outed' for being a top student. What world do we live in. https://youtu.be/p7c1HDUHlJo?t=60 | 1 | 11,341 | 1.285714 |
yj7hr4 | askacademia_train | 0.92 | Accidentally outed a top student During lecture yesterday I was engaging with students and accidentally let slip that one of the students that answered a question had a perfect score on the midterm. Instant regret - but I can’t take that back obviously. I feel like I should write the student an email apologizing, is that sufficient? What would y’all do? | iup5ck1 | iuofp2w | 1,667,348,297 | 1,667,337,631 | 9 | 5 | I don't think outing is the right term for this cause I thought you were talking about them being gay lmao | Out of curiosity why is this a bad thing? | 1 | 10,666 | 1.8 |
yj7hr4 | askacademia_train | 0.92 | Accidentally outed a top student During lecture yesterday I was engaging with students and accidentally let slip that one of the students that answered a question had a perfect score on the midterm. Instant regret - but I can’t take that back obviously. I feel like I should write the student an email apologizing, is that sufficient? What would y’all do? | iuntc94 | iup5ck1 | 1,667,329,153 | 1,667,348,297 | 2 | 9 | I had a professor in from an American university. He made it as a tradition to share three top scores on tests/exams/etc. | I don't think outing is the right term for this cause I thought you were talking about them being gay lmao | 0 | 19,144 | 4.5 |
yj7hr4 | askacademia_train | 0.92 | Accidentally outed a top student During lecture yesterday I was engaging with students and accidentally let slip that one of the students that answered a question had a perfect score on the midterm. Instant regret - but I can’t take that back obviously. I feel like I should write the student an email apologizing, is that sufficient? What would y’all do? | iup0hqf | iuodz0t | 1,667,346,229 | 1,667,336,956 | 8 | 7 | I had a professor tell the whole class I was the only one of her students who knew what was going on. (She said my name, but didn’t point me out). She then read my midterm essay answers out loud to the class as an example of what she was looking for on future tests. She dissected it in front of everyone. The very next week, she told me to my face that I was too stupid to take on my chosen final project. We all had to share our final project plans with her as we left class that day. Her response to my plan was that I wasn’t smart enough and should pick something less ambitious. I was so confused. Fast-forward a week and she asked to speak with (insert my name) after class. She wanted to chat with her best student. As I walked up, her eyes widened. She had no idea that it was me—that I was her best student. She actually started tripping over her words in what I assumed was embarrassment. I could tell right then she had pre-judged me based on my looks alone and hadn’t known my name. She thought my blonde hair and big boobs made me stupid, and it never crossed her mind that (insert my name) was me. I got no apology. At least you know who your students are. | 'Outed' for being a top student. What world do we live in. https://youtu.be/p7c1HDUHlJo?t=60 | 1 | 9,273 | 1.142857 |
yj7hr4 | askacademia_train | 0.92 | Accidentally outed a top student During lecture yesterday I was engaging with students and accidentally let slip that one of the students that answered a question had a perfect score on the midterm. Instant regret - but I can’t take that back obviously. I feel like I should write the student an email apologizing, is that sufficient? What would y’all do? | iup0hqf | iuofp2w | 1,667,346,229 | 1,667,337,631 | 8 | 5 | I had a professor tell the whole class I was the only one of her students who knew what was going on. (She said my name, but didn’t point me out). She then read my midterm essay answers out loud to the class as an example of what she was looking for on future tests. She dissected it in front of everyone. The very next week, she told me to my face that I was too stupid to take on my chosen final project. We all had to share our final project plans with her as we left class that day. Her response to my plan was that I wasn’t smart enough and should pick something less ambitious. I was so confused. Fast-forward a week and she asked to speak with (insert my name) after class. She wanted to chat with her best student. As I walked up, her eyes widened. She had no idea that it was me—that I was her best student. She actually started tripping over her words in what I assumed was embarrassment. I could tell right then she had pre-judged me based on my looks alone and hadn’t known my name. She thought my blonde hair and big boobs made me stupid, and it never crossed her mind that (insert my name) was me. I got no apology. At least you know who your students are. | Out of curiosity why is this a bad thing? | 1 | 8,598 | 1.6 |
yj7hr4 | askacademia_train | 0.92 | Accidentally outed a top student During lecture yesterday I was engaging with students and accidentally let slip that one of the students that answered a question had a perfect score on the midterm. Instant regret - but I can’t take that back obviously. I feel like I should write the student an email apologizing, is that sufficient? What would y’all do? | iup0hqf | iuntc94 | 1,667,346,229 | 1,667,329,153 | 8 | 2 | I had a professor tell the whole class I was the only one of her students who knew what was going on. (She said my name, but didn’t point me out). She then read my midterm essay answers out loud to the class as an example of what she was looking for on future tests. She dissected it in front of everyone. The very next week, she told me to my face that I was too stupid to take on my chosen final project. We all had to share our final project plans with her as we left class that day. Her response to my plan was that I wasn’t smart enough and should pick something less ambitious. I was so confused. Fast-forward a week and she asked to speak with (insert my name) after class. She wanted to chat with her best student. As I walked up, her eyes widened. She had no idea that it was me—that I was her best student. She actually started tripping over her words in what I assumed was embarrassment. I could tell right then she had pre-judged me based on my looks alone and hadn’t known my name. She thought my blonde hair and big boobs made me stupid, and it never crossed her mind that (insert my name) was me. I got no apology. At least you know who your students are. | I had a professor in from an American university. He made it as a tradition to share three top scores on tests/exams/etc. | 1 | 17,076 | 4 |
yj7hr4 | askacademia_train | 0.92 | Accidentally outed a top student During lecture yesterday I was engaging with students and accidentally let slip that one of the students that answered a question had a perfect score on the midterm. Instant regret - but I can’t take that back obviously. I feel like I should write the student an email apologizing, is that sufficient? What would y’all do? | iuntc94 | iuodz0t | 1,667,329,153 | 1,667,336,956 | 2 | 7 | I had a professor in from an American university. He made it as a tradition to share three top scores on tests/exams/etc. | 'Outed' for being a top student. What world do we live in. https://youtu.be/p7c1HDUHlJo?t=60 | 0 | 7,803 | 3.5 |
yj7hr4 | askacademia_train | 0.92 | Accidentally outed a top student During lecture yesterday I was engaging with students and accidentally let slip that one of the students that answered a question had a perfect score on the midterm. Instant regret - but I can’t take that back obviously. I feel like I should write the student an email apologizing, is that sufficient? What would y’all do? | iuofp2w | iuntc94 | 1,667,337,631 | 1,667,329,153 | 5 | 2 | Out of curiosity why is this a bad thing? | I had a professor in from an American university. He made it as a tradition to share three top scores on tests/exams/etc. | 1 | 8,478 | 2.5 |
yj7hr4 | askacademia_train | 0.92 | Accidentally outed a top student During lecture yesterday I was engaging with students and accidentally let slip that one of the students that answered a question had a perfect score on the midterm. Instant regret - but I can’t take that back obviously. I feel like I should write the student an email apologizing, is that sufficient? What would y’all do? | iup9z1v | iuntc94 | 1,667,350,251 | 1,667,329,153 | 4 | 2 | I one got a 100% on the midterm paper in my honors English class in college. The professor started raving about my paper to everyone and I just have him an awkward blank stare b/c I had no idea what he was talking about. I checked my grades halfway through class and saw the notes/ hundred and it clicked that he was just really impressed. Idk why, but in the moment I just didn't process what he was saying. Maybe they're just clueless like me, lol. | I had a professor in from an American university. He made it as a tradition to share three top scores on tests/exams/etc. | 1 | 21,098 | 2 |
i7jmn2 | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Do professors appreciate simple email replies such as just a "thank you"? On one hand I would assume sending a quick "thank you" or a one-sentence appreciation would be polite. On the other hand I wonder if this would be annoying as it just clutters up your email more. So are there any guidelines on how I should respond to a professor's reply when only a simple appreciation/thank you is warranted? | g12g2oe | g12em3w | 1,597,117,533 | 1,597,116,624 | 164 | 35 | Prof here. A quick thank you is always appropriate. It can be a nice way to acknowledge receipt of the message you got, especially if it was a longer one. | My prof tell ma me she always appreciate thank you emails | 1 | 909 | 4.685714 |
i7jmn2 | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Do professors appreciate simple email replies such as just a "thank you"? On one hand I would assume sending a quick "thank you" or a one-sentence appreciation would be polite. On the other hand I wonder if this would be annoying as it just clutters up your email more. So are there any guidelines on how I should respond to a professor's reply when only a simple appreciation/thank you is warranted? | g12omhg | g12i78n | 1,597,123,611 | 1,597,118,902 | 102 | 64 | I’ll be disappointed if OP doesn’t reply thanks to each comment | Yup! A simple "thank you!" or "thanks, that cleared up my confusion/answered my question" is great. I once even had a student write me a physical thank you letter after I wrote them a rec letter. That was much appreciated. Now, if it was an email sent to half the college faculty and someone replies all, *that* gets me *mad* :) | 1 | 4,709 | 1.59375 |
i7jmn2 | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Do professors appreciate simple email replies such as just a "thank you"? On one hand I would assume sending a quick "thank you" or a one-sentence appreciation would be polite. On the other hand I wonder if this would be annoying as it just clutters up your email more. So are there any guidelines on how I should respond to a professor's reply when only a simple appreciation/thank you is warranted? | g12em3w | g12omhg | 1,597,116,624 | 1,597,123,611 | 35 | 102 | My prof tell ma me she always appreciate thank you emails | I’ll be disappointed if OP doesn’t reply thanks to each comment | 0 | 6,987 | 2.914286 |
i7jmn2 | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Do professors appreciate simple email replies such as just a "thank you"? On one hand I would assume sending a quick "thank you" or a one-sentence appreciation would be polite. On the other hand I wonder if this would be annoying as it just clutters up your email more. So are there any guidelines on how I should respond to a professor's reply when only a simple appreciation/thank you is warranted? | g12i5o2 | g12omhg | 1,597,118,872 | 1,597,123,611 | 26 | 102 | A note of thanks regarding some particular kindness is nice, but please don’t send “thanks “ when for example you ask a question like, when is the assignment due and I say Tuesday. | I’ll be disappointed if OP doesn’t reply thanks to each comment | 0 | 4,739 | 3.923077 |
i7jmn2 | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Do professors appreciate simple email replies such as just a "thank you"? On one hand I would assume sending a quick "thank you" or a one-sentence appreciation would be polite. On the other hand I wonder if this would be annoying as it just clutters up your email more. So are there any guidelines on how I should respond to a professor's reply when only a simple appreciation/thank you is warranted? | g12omhg | g12k4go | 1,597,123,611 | 1,597,120,230 | 102 | 28 | I’ll be disappointed if OP doesn’t reply thanks to each comment | Communication is *super important* \- letting us know you got our email is extremely helpful, esp. when it leaves a paper trail for *you* as well as *us.* I have had to send students reminders about assignments or whatever and the difference between making or not making a grade adjustment is that student demonstrates responsiveness and engagement. I get not every student has equal email access and some Professors explicitly *don't* like email, but in my class if I send you an email and you can respond, it goes a long ways. | 1 | 3,381 | 3.642857 |
i7jmn2 | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Do professors appreciate simple email replies such as just a "thank you"? On one hand I would assume sending a quick "thank you" or a one-sentence appreciation would be polite. On the other hand I wonder if this would be annoying as it just clutters up your email more. So are there any guidelines on how I should respond to a professor's reply when only a simple appreciation/thank you is warranted? | g12omhg | g12mekf | 1,597,123,611 | 1,597,121,892 | 102 | 11 | I’ll be disappointed if OP doesn’t reply thanks to each comment | Professor here - thank you emails are somewhat rare and always appreciated by me at least! | 1 | 1,719 | 9.272727 |
i7jmn2 | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Do professors appreciate simple email replies such as just a "thank you"? On one hand I would assume sending a quick "thank you" or a one-sentence appreciation would be polite. On the other hand I wonder if this would be annoying as it just clutters up your email more. So are there any guidelines on how I should respond to a professor's reply when only a simple appreciation/thank you is warranted? | g12jbc2 | g12omhg | 1,597,119,665 | 1,597,123,611 | 8 | 102 | some students don’t reply! Thank you is fine. | I’ll be disappointed if OP doesn’t reply thanks to each comment | 0 | 3,946 | 12.75 |
i7jmn2 | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Do professors appreciate simple email replies such as just a "thank you"? On one hand I would assume sending a quick "thank you" or a one-sentence appreciation would be polite. On the other hand I wonder if this would be annoying as it just clutters up your email more. So are there any guidelines on how I should respond to a professor's reply when only a simple appreciation/thank you is warranted? | g12mneh | g12omhg | 1,597,122,074 | 1,597,123,611 | 8 | 102 | I was having the same problem...thank you. for asking. | I’ll be disappointed if OP doesn’t reply thanks to each comment | 0 | 1,537 | 12.75 |
i7jmn2 | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Do professors appreciate simple email replies such as just a "thank you"? On one hand I would assume sending a quick "thank you" or a one-sentence appreciation would be polite. On the other hand I wonder if this would be annoying as it just clutters up your email more. So are there any guidelines on how I should respond to a professor's reply when only a simple appreciation/thank you is warranted? | g12mfe4 | g12omhg | 1,597,121,909 | 1,597,123,611 | 4 | 102 | Professor here - thank you emails are somewhat rare and always appreciated by me at least! | I’ll be disappointed if OP doesn’t reply thanks to each comment | 0 | 1,702 | 25.5 |
i7jmn2 | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Do professors appreciate simple email replies such as just a "thank you"? On one hand I would assume sending a quick "thank you" or a one-sentence appreciation would be polite. On the other hand I wonder if this would be annoying as it just clutters up your email more. So are there any guidelines on how I should respond to a professor's reply when only a simple appreciation/thank you is warranted? | g12omhg | g12hycu | 1,597,123,611 | 1,597,118,736 | 102 | 4 | I’ll be disappointed if OP doesn’t reply thanks to each comment | I’ve always had positive responses to such emails. | 1 | 4,875 | 25.5 |
i7jmn2 | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Do professors appreciate simple email replies such as just a "thank you"? On one hand I would assume sending a quick "thank you" or a one-sentence appreciation would be polite. On the other hand I wonder if this would be annoying as it just clutters up your email more. So are there any guidelines on how I should respond to a professor's reply when only a simple appreciation/thank you is warranted? | g12omhg | g12htok | 1,597,123,611 | 1,597,118,650 | 102 | 3 | I’ll be disappointed if OP doesn’t reply thanks to each comment | It's far, far more likely that a professor won't read your long, detailed, and important email than that they will read your short, polite, and insignificant email and get upset about it. Their email accounts are already colossally cluttered. | 1 | 4,961 | 34 |
i7jmn2 | askacademia_train | 0.99 | Do professors appreciate simple email replies such as just a "thank you"? On one hand I would assume sending a quick "thank you" or a one-sentence appreciation would be polite. On the other hand I wonder if this would be annoying as it just clutters up your email more. So are there any guidelines on how I should respond to a professor's reply when only a simple appreciation/thank you is warranted? | g12omhg | g12jyw7 | 1,597,123,611 | 1,597,120,121 | 102 | 3 | I’ll be disappointed if OP doesn’t reply thanks to each comment | Yes. When I graduated my PhD I sent a thank you mail to every prof whose classes I had attended and all of them unanimously liked it | 1 | 3,490 | 34 |
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