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I think my husband put a tracking device on my car, what can I do if found? Location is **NJ**. My car's **title is in my name** only. He's made some payments when I was on medical leave from work for a couple of months and put down the down payment, if that matters. **TL;DR:** I have reasons to believe my soon-to-be ex-husband is tracking me. Is this legal? If I was to find the device, what should I do? If you can think of other ways he may know this specific info, please share! **Why I think he's tracking me:** * He's called me up multiple times saying "someone" saw me get off the interstate/parkway at specific exits, saw me at specific stores, etc. in the town he thinks my "new man" (there's NO one) lives in. * He's told me specific times I got to these towns and returned to my new rental house. * I got a new phone and am no longer on his phone plan, and my location is not shared with anyone, so he can't be using my phone to find me. * My ez-pass for toll booths is also a separate account and he does not have access to it. * He has the spare keys to my car, which he denies but his sister told me she saw it in his truck. He's very mechanically inclined and has driven around to find where I'm living, so it's possible that he could've placed something in my car. Edit: New Jersey, because apparently reddit can't identify "NJ" lol ​
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Just to consider all possibilities, other than phone devices like Tile could be used if he left one of his in your car, or shares an account and it’s on your keys or in your wallet, and you have the Tile app. I’m sure you would have thought of this, but I thought I’d throw that out there just in case.
Hi OP, I work at a car dealership. **We get this all the time!** ​ Call your dealership and set up an appt with service, let them know you need a full sweep of the car, inside and out to find a GPS tracker. It can be placed inside the car (like the trunk) or even underneath.
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I think my husband put a tracking device on my car, what can I do if found? Location is **NJ**. My car's **title is in my name** only. He's made some payments when I was on medical leave from work for a couple of months and put down the down payment, if that matters. **TL;DR:** I have reasons to believe my soon-to-be ex-husband is tracking me. Is this legal? If I was to find the device, what should I do? If you can think of other ways he may know this specific info, please share! **Why I think he's tracking me:** * He's called me up multiple times saying "someone" saw me get off the interstate/parkway at specific exits, saw me at specific stores, etc. in the town he thinks my "new man" (there's NO one) lives in. * He's told me specific times I got to these towns and returned to my new rental house. * I got a new phone and am no longer on his phone plan, and my location is not shared with anyone, so he can't be using my phone to find me. * My ez-pass for toll booths is also a separate account and he does not have access to it. * He has the spare keys to my car, which he denies but his sister told me she saw it in his truck. He's very mechanically inclined and has driven around to find where I'm living, so it's possible that he could've placed something in my car. Edit: New Jersey, because apparently reddit can't identify "NJ" lol ​
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It might be a stupid question. But do you have anybody you can swap cars with for a couple of days to see if he starts asking why you're going to the places they're going to?
Hi OP, I work at a car dealership. **We get this all the time!** ​ Call your dealership and set up an appt with service, let them know you need a full sweep of the car, inside and out to find a GPS tracker. It can be placed inside the car (like the trunk) or even underneath.
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I think my husband put a tracking device on my car, what can I do if found? Location is **NJ**. My car's **title is in my name** only. He's made some payments when I was on medical leave from work for a couple of months and put down the down payment, if that matters. **TL;DR:** I have reasons to believe my soon-to-be ex-husband is tracking me. Is this legal? If I was to find the device, what should I do? If you can think of other ways he may know this specific info, please share! **Why I think he's tracking me:** * He's called me up multiple times saying "someone" saw me get off the interstate/parkway at specific exits, saw me at specific stores, etc. in the town he thinks my "new man" (there's NO one) lives in. * He's told me specific times I got to these towns and returned to my new rental house. * I got a new phone and am no longer on his phone plan, and my location is not shared with anyone, so he can't be using my phone to find me. * My ez-pass for toll booths is also a separate account and he does not have access to it. * He has the spare keys to my car, which he denies but his sister told me she saw it in his truck. He's very mechanically inclined and has driven around to find where I'm living, so it's possible that he could've placed something in my car. Edit: New Jersey, because apparently reddit can't identify "NJ" lol ​
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Hi OP, I work at a car dealership. **We get this all the time!** ​ Call your dealership and set up an appt with service, let them know you need a full sweep of the car, inside and out to find a GPS tracker. It can be placed inside the car (like the trunk) or even underneath.
Trackers are usually tucked inside bumpers, behind the plastic but beneath the styrofoam. I've been asked to find them before, and that's the usual place. I think the GPS antennas have a hard time if there is a bunch of metal in the way, so usually a bumper.
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I think my husband put a tracking device on my car, what can I do if found? Location is **NJ**. My car's **title is in my name** only. He's made some payments when I was on medical leave from work for a couple of months and put down the down payment, if that matters. **TL;DR:** I have reasons to believe my soon-to-be ex-husband is tracking me. Is this legal? If I was to find the device, what should I do? If you can think of other ways he may know this specific info, please share! **Why I think he's tracking me:** * He's called me up multiple times saying "someone" saw me get off the interstate/parkway at specific exits, saw me at specific stores, etc. in the town he thinks my "new man" (there's NO one) lives in. * He's told me specific times I got to these towns and returned to my new rental house. * I got a new phone and am no longer on his phone plan, and my location is not shared with anyone, so he can't be using my phone to find me. * My ez-pass for toll booths is also a separate account and he does not have access to it. * He has the spare keys to my car, which he denies but his sister told me she saw it in his truck. He's very mechanically inclined and has driven around to find where I'm living, so it's possible that he could've placed something in my car. Edit: New Jersey, because apparently reddit can't identify "NJ" lol ​
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Hi OP, I work at a car dealership. **We get this all the time!** ​ Call your dealership and set up an appt with service, let them know you need a full sweep of the car, inside and out to find a GPS tracker. It can be placed inside the car (like the trunk) or even underneath.
Not legal advice. But maybe you could switch cars with a friend. That could rule out him watching your Google location via phone. Or gps device attached to your car or hidden in your purse
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I think my husband put a tracking device on my car, what can I do if found? Location is **NJ**. My car's **title is in my name** only. He's made some payments when I was on medical leave from work for a couple of months and put down the down payment, if that matters. **TL;DR:** I have reasons to believe my soon-to-be ex-husband is tracking me. Is this legal? If I was to find the device, what should I do? If you can think of other ways he may know this specific info, please share! **Why I think he's tracking me:** * He's called me up multiple times saying "someone" saw me get off the interstate/parkway at specific exits, saw me at specific stores, etc. in the town he thinks my "new man" (there's NO one) lives in. * He's told me specific times I got to these towns and returned to my new rental house. * I got a new phone and am no longer on his phone plan, and my location is not shared with anyone, so he can't be using my phone to find me. * My ez-pass for toll booths is also a separate account and he does not have access to it. * He has the spare keys to my car, which he denies but his sister told me she saw it in his truck. He's very mechanically inclined and has driven around to find where I'm living, so it's possible that he could've placed something in my car. Edit: New Jersey, because apparently reddit can't identify "NJ" lol ​
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Assuming he is using GPS to track you and not some other method, like a private investigator or otherwise something different- people with joint ownership of a vehicle are allowed to install GPS tracking devices without the knowledge of their spouse or other person on the title. Evidently, you own the car and it's in your name only, he is violating your privacy, but I'm not sure about the recourse available to you, so you should consult a lawyer. That being said: There is no state law that governs the US of GPS trackers. A judge in NJ in 2011 [Kenneth R. VILLANOVA v. INNOVATIVE INVESTIGATIONS, INC] ruled in favor of a wife and her private investigator using a GPS tracker to track the movements of her cheating husband, citing the fact that the installation was done on a car that was joint ownership between both of them- and the fact that the GPS tracker only tracked his movement in public places, where he had no expectation of privacy. Evidently you don't have an expectation of privacy because you've stated you've only been in public areas- but the fact he installed it on a car owned by specifically you, and only you is where he made a mistake, I think. GPS trackers are part of a rapidly changing part of the law, and there's not much case law in the US about their use. Talk to a lawyer about this and definitely get a divorce while you're at it.
Hi OP, I work at a car dealership. **We get this all the time!** ​ Call your dealership and set up an appt with service, let them know you need a full sweep of the car, inside and out to find a GPS tracker. It can be placed inside the car (like the trunk) or even underneath.
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I think my husband put a tracking device on my car, what can I do if found? Location is **NJ**. My car's **title is in my name** only. He's made some payments when I was on medical leave from work for a couple of months and put down the down payment, if that matters. **TL;DR:** I have reasons to believe my soon-to-be ex-husband is tracking me. Is this legal? If I was to find the device, what should I do? If you can think of other ways he may know this specific info, please share! **Why I think he's tracking me:** * He's called me up multiple times saying "someone" saw me get off the interstate/parkway at specific exits, saw me at specific stores, etc. in the town he thinks my "new man" (there's NO one) lives in. * He's told me specific times I got to these towns and returned to my new rental house. * I got a new phone and am no longer on his phone plan, and my location is not shared with anyone, so he can't be using my phone to find me. * My ez-pass for toll booths is also a separate account and he does not have access to it. * He has the spare keys to my car, which he denies but his sister told me she saw it in his truck. He's very mechanically inclined and has driven around to find where I'm living, so it's possible that he could've placed something in my car. Edit: New Jersey, because apparently reddit can't identify "NJ" lol ​
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Hi OP, I work at a car dealership. **We get this all the time!** ​ Call your dealership and set up an appt with service, let them know you need a full sweep of the car, inside and out to find a GPS tracker. It can be placed inside the car (like the trunk) or even underneath.
Also have your car checked oit to see if they find something like a tracker
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I think my husband put a tracking device on my car, what can I do if found? Location is **NJ**. My car's **title is in my name** only. He's made some payments when I was on medical leave from work for a couple of months and put down the down payment, if that matters. **TL;DR:** I have reasons to believe my soon-to-be ex-husband is tracking me. Is this legal? If I was to find the device, what should I do? If you can think of other ways he may know this specific info, please share! **Why I think he's tracking me:** * He's called me up multiple times saying "someone" saw me get off the interstate/parkway at specific exits, saw me at specific stores, etc. in the town he thinks my "new man" (there's NO one) lives in. * He's told me specific times I got to these towns and returned to my new rental house. * I got a new phone and am no longer on his phone plan, and my location is not shared with anyone, so he can't be using my phone to find me. * My ez-pass for toll booths is also a separate account and he does not have access to it. * He has the spare keys to my car, which he denies but his sister told me she saw it in his truck. He's very mechanically inclined and has driven around to find where I'm living, so it's possible that he could've placed something in my car. Edit: New Jersey, because apparently reddit can't identify "NJ" lol ​
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Just to consider all possibilities, other than phone devices like Tile could be used if he left one of his in your car, or shares an account and it’s on your keys or in your wallet, and you have the Tile app. I’m sure you would have thought of this, but I thought I’d throw that out there just in case.
Assuming he is using GPS to track you and not some other method, like a private investigator or otherwise something different- people with joint ownership of a vehicle are allowed to install GPS tracking devices without the knowledge of their spouse or other person on the title. Evidently, you own the car and it's in your name only, he is violating your privacy, but I'm not sure about the recourse available to you, so you should consult a lawyer. That being said: There is no state law that governs the US of GPS trackers. A judge in NJ in 2011 [Kenneth R. VILLANOVA v. INNOVATIVE INVESTIGATIONS, INC] ruled in favor of a wife and her private investigator using a GPS tracker to track the movements of her cheating husband, citing the fact that the installation was done on a car that was joint ownership between both of them- and the fact that the GPS tracker only tracked his movement in public places, where he had no expectation of privacy. Evidently you don't have an expectation of privacy because you've stated you've only been in public areas- but the fact he installed it on a car owned by specifically you, and only you is where he made a mistake, I think. GPS trackers are part of a rapidly changing part of the law, and there's not much case law in the US about their use. Talk to a lawyer about this and definitely get a divorce while you're at it.
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I think my husband put a tracking device on my car, what can I do if found? Location is **NJ**. My car's **title is in my name** only. He's made some payments when I was on medical leave from work for a couple of months and put down the down payment, if that matters. **TL;DR:** I have reasons to believe my soon-to-be ex-husband is tracking me. Is this legal? If I was to find the device, what should I do? If you can think of other ways he may know this specific info, please share! **Why I think he's tracking me:** * He's called me up multiple times saying "someone" saw me get off the interstate/parkway at specific exits, saw me at specific stores, etc. in the town he thinks my "new man" (there's NO one) lives in. * He's told me specific times I got to these towns and returned to my new rental house. * I got a new phone and am no longer on his phone plan, and my location is not shared with anyone, so he can't be using my phone to find me. * My ez-pass for toll booths is also a separate account and he does not have access to it. * He has the spare keys to my car, which he denies but his sister told me she saw it in his truck. He's very mechanically inclined and has driven around to find where I'm living, so it's possible that he could've placed something in my car. Edit: New Jersey, because apparently reddit can't identify "NJ" lol ​
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Also have your car checked oit to see if they find something like a tracker
Just to consider all possibilities, other than phone devices like Tile could be used if he left one of his in your car, or shares an account and it’s on your keys or in your wallet, and you have the Tile app. I’m sure you would have thought of this, but I thought I’d throw that out there just in case.
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I think my husband put a tracking device on my car, what can I do if found? Location is **NJ**. My car's **title is in my name** only. He's made some payments when I was on medical leave from work for a couple of months and put down the down payment, if that matters. **TL;DR:** I have reasons to believe my soon-to-be ex-husband is tracking me. Is this legal? If I was to find the device, what should I do? If you can think of other ways he may know this specific info, please share! **Why I think he's tracking me:** * He's called me up multiple times saying "someone" saw me get off the interstate/parkway at specific exits, saw me at specific stores, etc. in the town he thinks my "new man" (there's NO one) lives in. * He's told me specific times I got to these towns and returned to my new rental house. * I got a new phone and am no longer on his phone plan, and my location is not shared with anyone, so he can't be using my phone to find me. * My ez-pass for toll booths is also a separate account and he does not have access to it. * He has the spare keys to my car, which he denies but his sister told me she saw it in his truck. He's very mechanically inclined and has driven around to find where I'm living, so it's possible that he could've placed something in my car. Edit: New Jersey, because apparently reddit can't identify "NJ" lol ​
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Assuming he is using GPS to track you and not some other method, like a private investigator or otherwise something different- people with joint ownership of a vehicle are allowed to install GPS tracking devices without the knowledge of their spouse or other person on the title. Evidently, you own the car and it's in your name only, he is violating your privacy, but I'm not sure about the recourse available to you, so you should consult a lawyer. That being said: There is no state law that governs the US of GPS trackers. A judge in NJ in 2011 [Kenneth R. VILLANOVA v. INNOVATIVE INVESTIGATIONS, INC] ruled in favor of a wife and her private investigator using a GPS tracker to track the movements of her cheating husband, citing the fact that the installation was done on a car that was joint ownership between both of them- and the fact that the GPS tracker only tracked his movement in public places, where he had no expectation of privacy. Evidently you don't have an expectation of privacy because you've stated you've only been in public areas- but the fact he installed it on a car owned by specifically you, and only you is where he made a mistake, I think. GPS trackers are part of a rapidly changing part of the law, and there's not much case law in the US about their use. Talk to a lawyer about this and definitely get a divorce while you're at it.
It might be a stupid question. But do you have anybody you can swap cars with for a couple of days to see if he starts asking why you're going to the places they're going to?
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I think my husband put a tracking device on my car, what can I do if found? Location is **NJ**. My car's **title is in my name** only. He's made some payments when I was on medical leave from work for a couple of months and put down the down payment, if that matters. **TL;DR:** I have reasons to believe my soon-to-be ex-husband is tracking me. Is this legal? If I was to find the device, what should I do? If you can think of other ways he may know this specific info, please share! **Why I think he's tracking me:** * He's called me up multiple times saying "someone" saw me get off the interstate/parkway at specific exits, saw me at specific stores, etc. in the town he thinks my "new man" (there's NO one) lives in. * He's told me specific times I got to these towns and returned to my new rental house. * I got a new phone and am no longer on his phone plan, and my location is not shared with anyone, so he can't be using my phone to find me. * My ez-pass for toll booths is also a separate account and he does not have access to it. * He has the spare keys to my car, which he denies but his sister told me she saw it in his truck. He's very mechanically inclined and has driven around to find where I'm living, so it's possible that he could've placed something in my car. Edit: New Jersey, because apparently reddit can't identify "NJ" lol ​
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It might be a stupid question. But do you have anybody you can swap cars with for a couple of days to see if he starts asking why you're going to the places they're going to?
Also have your car checked oit to see if they find something like a tracker
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I think my husband put a tracking device on my car, what can I do if found? Location is **NJ**. My car's **title is in my name** only. He's made some payments when I was on medical leave from work for a couple of months and put down the down payment, if that matters. **TL;DR:** I have reasons to believe my soon-to-be ex-husband is tracking me. Is this legal? If I was to find the device, what should I do? If you can think of other ways he may know this specific info, please share! **Why I think he's tracking me:** * He's called me up multiple times saying "someone" saw me get off the interstate/parkway at specific exits, saw me at specific stores, etc. in the town he thinks my "new man" (there's NO one) lives in. * He's told me specific times I got to these towns and returned to my new rental house. * I got a new phone and am no longer on his phone plan, and my location is not shared with anyone, so he can't be using my phone to find me. * My ez-pass for toll booths is also a separate account and he does not have access to it. * He has the spare keys to my car, which he denies but his sister told me she saw it in his truck. He's very mechanically inclined and has driven around to find where I'm living, so it's possible that he could've placed something in my car. Edit: New Jersey, because apparently reddit can't identify "NJ" lol ​
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Assuming he is using GPS to track you and not some other method, like a private investigator or otherwise something different- people with joint ownership of a vehicle are allowed to install GPS tracking devices without the knowledge of their spouse or other person on the title. Evidently, you own the car and it's in your name only, he is violating your privacy, but I'm not sure about the recourse available to you, so you should consult a lawyer. That being said: There is no state law that governs the US of GPS trackers. A judge in NJ in 2011 [Kenneth R. VILLANOVA v. INNOVATIVE INVESTIGATIONS, INC] ruled in favor of a wife and her private investigator using a GPS tracker to track the movements of her cheating husband, citing the fact that the installation was done on a car that was joint ownership between both of them- and the fact that the GPS tracker only tracked his movement in public places, where he had no expectation of privacy. Evidently you don't have an expectation of privacy because you've stated you've only been in public areas- but the fact he installed it on a car owned by specifically you, and only you is where he made a mistake, I think. GPS trackers are part of a rapidly changing part of the law, and there's not much case law in the US about their use. Talk to a lawyer about this and definitely get a divorce while you're at it.
Trackers are usually tucked inside bumpers, behind the plastic but beneath the styrofoam. I've been asked to find them before, and that's the usual place. I think the GPS antennas have a hard time if there is a bunch of metal in the way, so usually a bumper.
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I think my husband put a tracking device on my car, what can I do if found? Location is **NJ**. My car's **title is in my name** only. He's made some payments when I was on medical leave from work for a couple of months and put down the down payment, if that matters. **TL;DR:** I have reasons to believe my soon-to-be ex-husband is tracking me. Is this legal? If I was to find the device, what should I do? If you can think of other ways he may know this specific info, please share! **Why I think he's tracking me:** * He's called me up multiple times saying "someone" saw me get off the interstate/parkway at specific exits, saw me at specific stores, etc. in the town he thinks my "new man" (there's NO one) lives in. * He's told me specific times I got to these towns and returned to my new rental house. * I got a new phone and am no longer on his phone plan, and my location is not shared with anyone, so he can't be using my phone to find me. * My ez-pass for toll booths is also a separate account and he does not have access to it. * He has the spare keys to my car, which he denies but his sister told me she saw it in his truck. He's very mechanically inclined and has driven around to find where I'm living, so it's possible that he could've placed something in my car. Edit: New Jersey, because apparently reddit can't identify "NJ" lol ​
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Also have your car checked oit to see if they find something like a tracker
Trackers are usually tucked inside bumpers, behind the plastic but beneath the styrofoam. I've been asked to find them before, and that's the usual place. I think the GPS antennas have a hard time if there is a bunch of metal in the way, so usually a bumper.
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I think my husband put a tracking device on my car, what can I do if found? Location is **NJ**. My car's **title is in my name** only. He's made some payments when I was on medical leave from work for a couple of months and put down the down payment, if that matters. **TL;DR:** I have reasons to believe my soon-to-be ex-husband is tracking me. Is this legal? If I was to find the device, what should I do? If you can think of other ways he may know this specific info, please share! **Why I think he's tracking me:** * He's called me up multiple times saying "someone" saw me get off the interstate/parkway at specific exits, saw me at specific stores, etc. in the town he thinks my "new man" (there's NO one) lives in. * He's told me specific times I got to these towns and returned to my new rental house. * I got a new phone and am no longer on his phone plan, and my location is not shared with anyone, so he can't be using my phone to find me. * My ez-pass for toll booths is also a separate account and he does not have access to it. * He has the spare keys to my car, which he denies but his sister told me she saw it in his truck. He's very mechanically inclined and has driven around to find where I'm living, so it's possible that he could've placed something in my car. Edit: New Jersey, because apparently reddit can't identify "NJ" lol ​
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Also have your car checked oit to see if they find something like a tracker
Not legal advice. But maybe you could switch cars with a friend. That could rule out him watching your Google location via phone. Or gps device attached to your car or hidden in your purse
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I found a GPS tracking device on my vehicle and I don't know where it came from. (Texas) Title pretty much says it. Texas.My wife was leaving work and the car was parked on an incline, making the under-carriage of the car easy to see. She noticed something protruding from the bottom of one of the metal panels- at first, she thought it was some part of the car that had broken or bent or what have you - but when I took a look at it when I got home I found out that it was a GPS Tracker with SIM card installed. https://spytec.com/products/gl300ma-gps-tracker-m2-case-bundle I own this car, it is not on lease. This car has no liens against it or anything of that nature. My wife drives the car about 20% of the time - I drive this vehicle most of the time. Battery life on the unit mentions about 20 days at 60 second pings- Meaning this has been on the vehicle for less than 20 days as the unit is operating right now.I think I Better Call Saul or something... I currently have the device still on the vehicle. I didn't want to look like I was disturbing the device or allow whoever is tracking me to know that I found it.
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Yeah, definitely don't leave it on there. Remove it, take it to the police station as the other poster said, and go from there. Start checking other aspects of your daily life for similar stuff. Someone willing to go to that extreme may be targeting your wife in other ways. Keep a log of all your findings. If it comes out you or your wife have a stalker, that log will become handy.
> I currently have the device still on the vehicle. Is that a wise decision, given that clearly someone, with intentions you're unaware of, is tracking your wife? Take it to the police station, try to fill out a report, press them to fill out a report, and when the person who placed it sees that it's at the police station, perhaps they will stop their shenanigans. But I'd not screw around here. No one here can solve the mystery.
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I found a GPS tracking device on my vehicle and I don't know where it came from. (Texas) Title pretty much says it. Texas.My wife was leaving work and the car was parked on an incline, making the under-carriage of the car easy to see. She noticed something protruding from the bottom of one of the metal panels- at first, she thought it was some part of the car that had broken or bent or what have you - but when I took a look at it when I got home I found out that it was a GPS Tracker with SIM card installed. https://spytec.com/products/gl300ma-gps-tracker-m2-case-bundle I own this car, it is not on lease. This car has no liens against it or anything of that nature. My wife drives the car about 20% of the time - I drive this vehicle most of the time. Battery life on the unit mentions about 20 days at 60 second pings- Meaning this has been on the vehicle for less than 20 days as the unit is operating right now.I think I Better Call Saul or something... I currently have the device still on the vehicle. I didn't want to look like I was disturbing the device or allow whoever is tracking me to know that I found it.
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Is there any reason to believe that you or your wife could be the subject of a police investigation? I’d start at a high level and ask “who has reason not to trust me or my wife?” Since your wife pointed it out to you, it seems unlikely she would be the one to place it. Normally I’d say that is where you should start
I would contact an attorney and have the attorney deal with the police. You need somone on your side in the event they have a warrant to place the device in your vehicle.
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I found a GPS tracking device on my vehicle and I don't know where it came from. (Texas) Title pretty much says it. Texas.My wife was leaving work and the car was parked on an incline, making the under-carriage of the car easy to see. She noticed something protruding from the bottom of one of the metal panels- at first, she thought it was some part of the car that had broken or bent or what have you - but when I took a look at it when I got home I found out that it was a GPS Tracker with SIM card installed. https://spytec.com/products/gl300ma-gps-tracker-m2-case-bundle I own this car, it is not on lease. This car has no liens against it or anything of that nature. My wife drives the car about 20% of the time - I drive this vehicle most of the time. Battery life on the unit mentions about 20 days at 60 second pings- Meaning this has been on the vehicle for less than 20 days as the unit is operating right now.I think I Better Call Saul or something... I currently have the device still on the vehicle. I didn't want to look like I was disturbing the device or allow whoever is tracking me to know that I found it.
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I would contact an attorney and have the attorney deal with the police. You need somone on your side in the event they have a warrant to place the device in your vehicle.
The tracking could have been going on much longer, simply by swapping a pair of trackers. The thing about real time trackers is, there is no mistake about what vehicle it is on. So, are either of you being stalked? Have there been other odd happenings, coincidences, items lost or found (other than this)? Any vandalism? Check your other vehicles too. I would leave the device in place for now. Law enforcement can issue a warrant to the cellular service provider to find out who the device is registered to. If you take it anywhere a vehicle cannot go that will alert the watcher.
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I found a GPS tracking device on my vehicle and I don't know where it came from. (Texas) Title pretty much says it. Texas.My wife was leaving work and the car was parked on an incline, making the under-carriage of the car easy to see. She noticed something protruding from the bottom of one of the metal panels- at first, she thought it was some part of the car that had broken or bent or what have you - but when I took a look at it when I got home I found out that it was a GPS Tracker with SIM card installed. https://spytec.com/products/gl300ma-gps-tracker-m2-case-bundle I own this car, it is not on lease. This car has no liens against it or anything of that nature. My wife drives the car about 20% of the time - I drive this vehicle most of the time. Battery life on the unit mentions about 20 days at 60 second pings- Meaning this has been on the vehicle for less than 20 days as the unit is operating right now.I think I Better Call Saul or something... I currently have the device still on the vehicle. I didn't want to look like I was disturbing the device or allow whoever is tracking me to know that I found it.
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I wouldn't leave it there for fear that it might be police. If it was me I'd remove it, turn it off, and see who comes looking for it. If it \*is\* the police then you should give it back to them, undamaged. And then get a lawyer REALLY QUICK because if the police are tracking you then you're gonna need one. Keep an eye on your car - once it goes silent they will be looking for it.
I would contact an attorney and have the attorney deal with the police. You need somone on your side in the event they have a warrant to place the device in your vehicle.
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I found a GPS tracking device on my vehicle and I don't know where it came from. (Texas) Title pretty much says it. Texas.My wife was leaving work and the car was parked on an incline, making the under-carriage of the car easy to see. She noticed something protruding from the bottom of one of the metal panels- at first, she thought it was some part of the car that had broken or bent or what have you - but when I took a look at it when I got home I found out that it was a GPS Tracker with SIM card installed. https://spytec.com/products/gl300ma-gps-tracker-m2-case-bundle I own this car, it is not on lease. This car has no liens against it or anything of that nature. My wife drives the car about 20% of the time - I drive this vehicle most of the time. Battery life on the unit mentions about 20 days at 60 second pings- Meaning this has been on the vehicle for less than 20 days as the unit is operating right now.I think I Better Call Saul or something... I currently have the device still on the vehicle. I didn't want to look like I was disturbing the device or allow whoever is tracking me to know that I found it.
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Silly question, but just to double check... is the thing still actively operating? I know you mentioned the 20 days of life, but you mentioned leaving it on the car. It’s a stretch, but is it just a dead tracker, and when you purchased the vehicle it was still on there from the last owner? It is unlikely, but wanted to check to rule it out. I also think you should remove the device. Or another option is to just leave the vehicle at home and put up a hidden camera to see who comes to retrieve it. If you go that route, maybe back the vehicle in so they have to walk all the way around the vehicle to get it, giving you more chances to see a face.
I would contact an attorney and have the attorney deal with the police. You need somone on your side in the event they have a warrant to place the device in your vehicle.
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I found a GPS tracking device on my vehicle and I don't know where it came from. (Texas) Title pretty much says it. Texas.My wife was leaving work and the car was parked on an incline, making the under-carriage of the car easy to see. She noticed something protruding from the bottom of one of the metal panels- at first, she thought it was some part of the car that had broken or bent or what have you - but when I took a look at it when I got home I found out that it was a GPS Tracker with SIM card installed. https://spytec.com/products/gl300ma-gps-tracker-m2-case-bundle I own this car, it is not on lease. This car has no liens against it or anything of that nature. My wife drives the car about 20% of the time - I drive this vehicle most of the time. Battery life on the unit mentions about 20 days at 60 second pings- Meaning this has been on the vehicle for less than 20 days as the unit is operating right now.I think I Better Call Saul or something... I currently have the device still on the vehicle. I didn't want to look like I was disturbing the device or allow whoever is tracking me to know that I found it.
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There was a redditor who found a GPS device on his car a few years ago. It turned out that it had been put there by the police as part of an investigation, I highly suggest you go to the closest police station and report it and ask if it belongs to them or another gov agency. Good luck
I would contact an attorney and have the attorney deal with the police. You need somone on your side in the event they have a warrant to place the device in your vehicle.
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I found a GPS tracking device on my vehicle and I don't know where it came from. (Texas) Title pretty much says it. Texas.My wife was leaving work and the car was parked on an incline, making the under-carriage of the car easy to see. She noticed something protruding from the bottom of one of the metal panels- at first, she thought it was some part of the car that had broken or bent or what have you - but when I took a look at it when I got home I found out that it was a GPS Tracker with SIM card installed. https://spytec.com/products/gl300ma-gps-tracker-m2-case-bundle I own this car, it is not on lease. This car has no liens against it or anything of that nature. My wife drives the car about 20% of the time - I drive this vehicle most of the time. Battery life on the unit mentions about 20 days at 60 second pings- Meaning this has been on the vehicle for less than 20 days as the unit is operating right now.I think I Better Call Saul or something... I currently have the device still on the vehicle. I didn't want to look like I was disturbing the device or allow whoever is tracking me to know that I found it.
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INAL but with police assistance (a warrant perhaps?- don't know how that works) the manufacturer of the device may be able to give the exact information you need. Or at least some clue. These things all have serial numbers. If I was in your position I would start there - police report in hand.
I would contact an attorney and have the attorney deal with the police. You need somone on your side in the event they have a warrant to place the device in your vehicle.
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I found a GPS tracking device on my vehicle and I don't know where it came from. (Texas) Title pretty much says it. Texas.My wife was leaving work and the car was parked on an incline, making the under-carriage of the car easy to see. She noticed something protruding from the bottom of one of the metal panels- at first, she thought it was some part of the car that had broken or bent or what have you - but when I took a look at it when I got home I found out that it was a GPS Tracker with SIM card installed. https://spytec.com/products/gl300ma-gps-tracker-m2-case-bundle I own this car, it is not on lease. This car has no liens against it or anything of that nature. My wife drives the car about 20% of the time - I drive this vehicle most of the time. Battery life on the unit mentions about 20 days at 60 second pings- Meaning this has been on the vehicle for less than 20 days as the unit is operating right now.I think I Better Call Saul or something... I currently have the device still on the vehicle. I didn't want to look like I was disturbing the device or allow whoever is tracking me to know that I found it.
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Do you and your wife jointly own the car? In Texas, you need the owner's consent to put one on the car. So, if you own it (and she isn't on the title), only the police can do it. If you jointly own it, she can do it. Any reason why your wife might want to track you?
I would contact an attorney and have the attorney deal with the police. You need somone on your side in the event they have a warrant to place the device in your vehicle.
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I found a GPS tracking device on my vehicle and I don't know where it came from. (Texas) Title pretty much says it. Texas.My wife was leaving work and the car was parked on an incline, making the under-carriage of the car easy to see. She noticed something protruding from the bottom of one of the metal panels- at first, she thought it was some part of the car that had broken or bent or what have you - but when I took a look at it when I got home I found out that it was a GPS Tracker with SIM card installed. https://spytec.com/products/gl300ma-gps-tracker-m2-case-bundle I own this car, it is not on lease. This car has no liens against it or anything of that nature. My wife drives the car about 20% of the time - I drive this vehicle most of the time. Battery life on the unit mentions about 20 days at 60 second pings- Meaning this has been on the vehicle for less than 20 days as the unit is operating right now.I think I Better Call Saul or something... I currently have the device still on the vehicle. I didn't want to look like I was disturbing the device or allow whoever is tracking me to know that I found it.
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Silly question, but just to double check... is the thing still actively operating? I know you mentioned the 20 days of life, but you mentioned leaving it on the car. It’s a stretch, but is it just a dead tracker, and when you purchased the vehicle it was still on there from the last owner? It is unlikely, but wanted to check to rule it out. I also think you should remove the device. Or another option is to just leave the vehicle at home and put up a hidden camera to see who comes to retrieve it. If you go that route, maybe back the vehicle in so they have to walk all the way around the vehicle to get it, giving you more chances to see a face.
The tracking could have been going on much longer, simply by swapping a pair of trackers. The thing about real time trackers is, there is no mistake about what vehicle it is on. So, are either of you being stalked? Have there been other odd happenings, coincidences, items lost or found (other than this)? Any vandalism? Check your other vehicles too. I would leave the device in place for now. Law enforcement can issue a warrant to the cellular service provider to find out who the device is registered to. If you take it anywhere a vehicle cannot go that will alert the watcher.
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I found a GPS tracking device on my vehicle and I don't know where it came from. (Texas) Title pretty much says it. Texas.My wife was leaving work and the car was parked on an incline, making the under-carriage of the car easy to see. She noticed something protruding from the bottom of one of the metal panels- at first, she thought it was some part of the car that had broken or bent or what have you - but when I took a look at it when I got home I found out that it was a GPS Tracker with SIM card installed. https://spytec.com/products/gl300ma-gps-tracker-m2-case-bundle I own this car, it is not on lease. This car has no liens against it or anything of that nature. My wife drives the car about 20% of the time - I drive this vehicle most of the time. Battery life on the unit mentions about 20 days at 60 second pings- Meaning this has been on the vehicle for less than 20 days as the unit is operating right now.I think I Better Call Saul or something... I currently have the device still on the vehicle. I didn't want to look like I was disturbing the device or allow whoever is tracking me to know that I found it.
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The tracking could have been going on much longer, simply by swapping a pair of trackers. The thing about real time trackers is, there is no mistake about what vehicle it is on. So, are either of you being stalked? Have there been other odd happenings, coincidences, items lost or found (other than this)? Any vandalism? Check your other vehicles too. I would leave the device in place for now. Law enforcement can issue a warrant to the cellular service provider to find out who the device is registered to. If you take it anywhere a vehicle cannot go that will alert the watcher.
There was a redditor who found a GPS device on his car a few years ago. It turned out that it had been put there by the police as part of an investigation, I highly suggest you go to the closest police station and report it and ask if it belongs to them or another gov agency. Good luck
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I found a GPS tracking device on my vehicle and I don't know where it came from. (Texas) Title pretty much says it. Texas.My wife was leaving work and the car was parked on an incline, making the under-carriage of the car easy to see. She noticed something protruding from the bottom of one of the metal panels- at first, she thought it was some part of the car that had broken or bent or what have you - but when I took a look at it when I got home I found out that it was a GPS Tracker with SIM card installed. https://spytec.com/products/gl300ma-gps-tracker-m2-case-bundle I own this car, it is not on lease. This car has no liens against it or anything of that nature. My wife drives the car about 20% of the time - I drive this vehicle most of the time. Battery life on the unit mentions about 20 days at 60 second pings- Meaning this has been on the vehicle for less than 20 days as the unit is operating right now.I think I Better Call Saul or something... I currently have the device still on the vehicle. I didn't want to look like I was disturbing the device or allow whoever is tracking me to know that I found it.
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INAL but with police assistance (a warrant perhaps?- don't know how that works) the manufacturer of the device may be able to give the exact information you need. Or at least some clue. These things all have serial numbers. If I was in your position I would start there - police report in hand.
The tracking could have been going on much longer, simply by swapping a pair of trackers. The thing about real time trackers is, there is no mistake about what vehicle it is on. So, are either of you being stalked? Have there been other odd happenings, coincidences, items lost or found (other than this)? Any vandalism? Check your other vehicles too. I would leave the device in place for now. Law enforcement can issue a warrant to the cellular service provider to find out who the device is registered to. If you take it anywhere a vehicle cannot go that will alert the watcher.
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I found a GPS tracking device on my vehicle and I don't know where it came from. (Texas) Title pretty much says it. Texas.My wife was leaving work and the car was parked on an incline, making the under-carriage of the car easy to see. She noticed something protruding from the bottom of one of the metal panels- at first, she thought it was some part of the car that had broken or bent or what have you - but when I took a look at it when I got home I found out that it was a GPS Tracker with SIM card installed. https://spytec.com/products/gl300ma-gps-tracker-m2-case-bundle I own this car, it is not on lease. This car has no liens against it or anything of that nature. My wife drives the car about 20% of the time - I drive this vehicle most of the time. Battery life on the unit mentions about 20 days at 60 second pings- Meaning this has been on the vehicle for less than 20 days as the unit is operating right now.I think I Better Call Saul or something... I currently have the device still on the vehicle. I didn't want to look like I was disturbing the device or allow whoever is tracking me to know that I found it.
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The tracking could have been going on much longer, simply by swapping a pair of trackers. The thing about real time trackers is, there is no mistake about what vehicle it is on. So, are either of you being stalked? Have there been other odd happenings, coincidences, items lost or found (other than this)? Any vandalism? Check your other vehicles too. I would leave the device in place for now. Law enforcement can issue a warrant to the cellular service provider to find out who the device is registered to. If you take it anywhere a vehicle cannot go that will alert the watcher.
Do you and your wife jointly own the car? In Texas, you need the owner's consent to put one on the car. So, if you own it (and she isn't on the title), only the police can do it. If you jointly own it, she can do it. Any reason why your wife might want to track you?
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I found a GPS tracking device on my vehicle and I don't know where it came from. (Texas) Title pretty much says it. Texas.My wife was leaving work and the car was parked on an incline, making the under-carriage of the car easy to see. She noticed something protruding from the bottom of one of the metal panels- at first, she thought it was some part of the car that had broken or bent or what have you - but when I took a look at it when I got home I found out that it was a GPS Tracker with SIM card installed. https://spytec.com/products/gl300ma-gps-tracker-m2-case-bundle I own this car, it is not on lease. This car has no liens against it or anything of that nature. My wife drives the car about 20% of the time - I drive this vehicle most of the time. Battery life on the unit mentions about 20 days at 60 second pings- Meaning this has been on the vehicle for less than 20 days as the unit is operating right now.I think I Better Call Saul or something... I currently have the device still on the vehicle. I didn't want to look like I was disturbing the device or allow whoever is tracking me to know that I found it.
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I wouldn't leave it there for fear that it might be police. If it was me I'd remove it, turn it off, and see who comes looking for it. If it \*is\* the police then you should give it back to them, undamaged. And then get a lawyer REALLY QUICK because if the police are tracking you then you're gonna need one. Keep an eye on your car - once it goes silent they will be looking for it.
Silly question, but just to double check... is the thing still actively operating? I know you mentioned the 20 days of life, but you mentioned leaving it on the car. It’s a stretch, but is it just a dead tracker, and when you purchased the vehicle it was still on there from the last owner? It is unlikely, but wanted to check to rule it out. I also think you should remove the device. Or another option is to just leave the vehicle at home and put up a hidden camera to see who comes to retrieve it. If you go that route, maybe back the vehicle in so they have to walk all the way around the vehicle to get it, giving you more chances to see a face.
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I found a GPS tracking device on my vehicle and I don't know where it came from. (Texas) Title pretty much says it. Texas.My wife was leaving work and the car was parked on an incline, making the under-carriage of the car easy to see. She noticed something protruding from the bottom of one of the metal panels- at first, she thought it was some part of the car that had broken or bent or what have you - but when I took a look at it when I got home I found out that it was a GPS Tracker with SIM card installed. https://spytec.com/products/gl300ma-gps-tracker-m2-case-bundle I own this car, it is not on lease. This car has no liens against it or anything of that nature. My wife drives the car about 20% of the time - I drive this vehicle most of the time. Battery life on the unit mentions about 20 days at 60 second pings- Meaning this has been on the vehicle for less than 20 days as the unit is operating right now.I think I Better Call Saul or something... I currently have the device still on the vehicle. I didn't want to look like I was disturbing the device or allow whoever is tracking me to know that I found it.
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There was a redditor who found a GPS device on his car a few years ago. It turned out that it had been put there by the police as part of an investigation, I highly suggest you go to the closest police station and report it and ask if it belongs to them or another gov agency. Good luck
I wouldn't leave it there for fear that it might be police. If it was me I'd remove it, turn it off, and see who comes looking for it. If it \*is\* the police then you should give it back to them, undamaged. And then get a lawyer REALLY QUICK because if the police are tracking you then you're gonna need one. Keep an eye on your car - once it goes silent they will be looking for it.
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I found a GPS tracking device on my vehicle and I don't know where it came from. (Texas) Title pretty much says it. Texas.My wife was leaving work and the car was parked on an incline, making the under-carriage of the car easy to see. She noticed something protruding from the bottom of one of the metal panels- at first, she thought it was some part of the car that had broken or bent or what have you - but when I took a look at it when I got home I found out that it was a GPS Tracker with SIM card installed. https://spytec.com/products/gl300ma-gps-tracker-m2-case-bundle I own this car, it is not on lease. This car has no liens against it or anything of that nature. My wife drives the car about 20% of the time - I drive this vehicle most of the time. Battery life on the unit mentions about 20 days at 60 second pings- Meaning this has been on the vehicle for less than 20 days as the unit is operating right now.I think I Better Call Saul or something... I currently have the device still on the vehicle. I didn't want to look like I was disturbing the device or allow whoever is tracking me to know that I found it.
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I wouldn't leave it there for fear that it might be police. If it was me I'd remove it, turn it off, and see who comes looking for it. If it \*is\* the police then you should give it back to them, undamaged. And then get a lawyer REALLY QUICK because if the police are tracking you then you're gonna need one. Keep an eye on your car - once it goes silent they will be looking for it.
INAL but with police assistance (a warrant perhaps?- don't know how that works) the manufacturer of the device may be able to give the exact information you need. Or at least some clue. These things all have serial numbers. If I was in your position I would start there - police report in hand.
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I found a GPS tracking device on my vehicle and I don't know where it came from. (Texas) Title pretty much says it. Texas.My wife was leaving work and the car was parked on an incline, making the under-carriage of the car easy to see. She noticed something protruding from the bottom of one of the metal panels- at first, she thought it was some part of the car that had broken or bent or what have you - but when I took a look at it when I got home I found out that it was a GPS Tracker with SIM card installed. https://spytec.com/products/gl300ma-gps-tracker-m2-case-bundle I own this car, it is not on lease. This car has no liens against it or anything of that nature. My wife drives the car about 20% of the time - I drive this vehicle most of the time. Battery life on the unit mentions about 20 days at 60 second pings- Meaning this has been on the vehicle for less than 20 days as the unit is operating right now.I think I Better Call Saul or something... I currently have the device still on the vehicle. I didn't want to look like I was disturbing the device or allow whoever is tracking me to know that I found it.
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I wouldn't leave it there for fear that it might be police. If it was me I'd remove it, turn it off, and see who comes looking for it. If it \*is\* the police then you should give it back to them, undamaged. And then get a lawyer REALLY QUICK because if the police are tracking you then you're gonna need one. Keep an eye on your car - once it goes silent they will be looking for it.
Do you and your wife jointly own the car? In Texas, you need the owner's consent to put one on the car. So, if you own it (and she isn't on the title), only the police can do it. If you jointly own it, she can do it. Any reason why your wife might want to track you?
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I found a GPS tracking device on my vehicle and I don't know where it came from. (Texas) Title pretty much says it. Texas.My wife was leaving work and the car was parked on an incline, making the under-carriage of the car easy to see. She noticed something protruding from the bottom of one of the metal panels- at first, she thought it was some part of the car that had broken or bent or what have you - but when I took a look at it when I got home I found out that it was a GPS Tracker with SIM card installed. https://spytec.com/products/gl300ma-gps-tracker-m2-case-bundle I own this car, it is not on lease. This car has no liens against it or anything of that nature. My wife drives the car about 20% of the time - I drive this vehicle most of the time. Battery life on the unit mentions about 20 days at 60 second pings- Meaning this has been on the vehicle for less than 20 days as the unit is operating right now.I think I Better Call Saul or something... I currently have the device still on the vehicle. I didn't want to look like I was disturbing the device or allow whoever is tracking me to know that I found it.
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Silly question, but just to double check... is the thing still actively operating? I know you mentioned the 20 days of life, but you mentioned leaving it on the car. It’s a stretch, but is it just a dead tracker, and when you purchased the vehicle it was still on there from the last owner? It is unlikely, but wanted to check to rule it out. I also think you should remove the device. Or another option is to just leave the vehicle at home and put up a hidden camera to see who comes to retrieve it. If you go that route, maybe back the vehicle in so they have to walk all the way around the vehicle to get it, giving you more chances to see a face.
INAL but with police assistance (a warrant perhaps?- don't know how that works) the manufacturer of the device may be able to give the exact information you need. Or at least some clue. These things all have serial numbers. If I was in your position I would start there - police report in hand.
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I found a GPS tracking device on my vehicle and I don't know where it came from. (Texas) Title pretty much says it. Texas.My wife was leaving work and the car was parked on an incline, making the under-carriage of the car easy to see. She noticed something protruding from the bottom of one of the metal panels- at first, she thought it was some part of the car that had broken or bent or what have you - but when I took a look at it when I got home I found out that it was a GPS Tracker with SIM card installed. https://spytec.com/products/gl300ma-gps-tracker-m2-case-bundle I own this car, it is not on lease. This car has no liens against it or anything of that nature. My wife drives the car about 20% of the time - I drive this vehicle most of the time. Battery life on the unit mentions about 20 days at 60 second pings- Meaning this has been on the vehicle for less than 20 days as the unit is operating right now.I think I Better Call Saul or something... I currently have the device still on the vehicle. I didn't want to look like I was disturbing the device or allow whoever is tracking me to know that I found it.
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Do you and your wife jointly own the car? In Texas, you need the owner's consent to put one on the car. So, if you own it (and she isn't on the title), only the police can do it. If you jointly own it, she can do it. Any reason why your wife might want to track you?
Silly question, but just to double check... is the thing still actively operating? I know you mentioned the 20 days of life, but you mentioned leaving it on the car. It’s a stretch, but is it just a dead tracker, and when you purchased the vehicle it was still on there from the last owner? It is unlikely, but wanted to check to rule it out. I also think you should remove the device. Or another option is to just leave the vehicle at home and put up a hidden camera to see who comes to retrieve it. If you go that route, maybe back the vehicle in so they have to walk all the way around the vehicle to get it, giving you more chances to see a face.
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I found a GPS tracking device on my vehicle and I don't know where it came from. (Texas) Title pretty much says it. Texas.My wife was leaving work and the car was parked on an incline, making the under-carriage of the car easy to see. She noticed something protruding from the bottom of one of the metal panels- at first, she thought it was some part of the car that had broken or bent or what have you - but when I took a look at it when I got home I found out that it was a GPS Tracker with SIM card installed. https://spytec.com/products/gl300ma-gps-tracker-m2-case-bundle I own this car, it is not on lease. This car has no liens against it or anything of that nature. My wife drives the car about 20% of the time - I drive this vehicle most of the time. Battery life on the unit mentions about 20 days at 60 second pings- Meaning this has been on the vehicle for less than 20 days as the unit is operating right now.I think I Better Call Saul or something... I currently have the device still on the vehicle. I didn't want to look like I was disturbing the device or allow whoever is tracking me to know that I found it.
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There was a redditor who found a GPS device on his car a few years ago. It turned out that it had been put there by the police as part of an investigation, I highly suggest you go to the closest police station and report it and ask if it belongs to them or another gov agency. Good luck
INAL but with police assistance (a warrant perhaps?- don't know how that works) the manufacturer of the device may be able to give the exact information you need. Or at least some clue. These things all have serial numbers. If I was in your position I would start there - police report in hand.
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I found a GPS tracking device on my vehicle and I don't know where it came from. (Texas) Title pretty much says it. Texas.My wife was leaving work and the car was parked on an incline, making the under-carriage of the car easy to see. She noticed something protruding from the bottom of one of the metal panels- at first, she thought it was some part of the car that had broken or bent or what have you - but when I took a look at it when I got home I found out that it was a GPS Tracker with SIM card installed. https://spytec.com/products/gl300ma-gps-tracker-m2-case-bundle I own this car, it is not on lease. This car has no liens against it or anything of that nature. My wife drives the car about 20% of the time - I drive this vehicle most of the time. Battery life on the unit mentions about 20 days at 60 second pings- Meaning this has been on the vehicle for less than 20 days as the unit is operating right now.I think I Better Call Saul or something... I currently have the device still on the vehicle. I didn't want to look like I was disturbing the device or allow whoever is tracking me to know that I found it.
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Do you and your wife jointly own the car? In Texas, you need the owner's consent to put one on the car. So, if you own it (and she isn't on the title), only the police can do it. If you jointly own it, she can do it. Any reason why your wife might want to track you?
There was a redditor who found a GPS device on his car a few years ago. It turned out that it had been put there by the police as part of an investigation, I highly suggest you go to the closest police station and report it and ask if it belongs to them or another gov agency. Good luck
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Son told car buyer that I installed tracking device on it. Now car buyer wants to sue. [Maryland] My son went to college and I decided to sell the station wagon he had been driving around in high school. A friend of a friend offered to buy it for $2K. A few months later, my son bumped into car buyer at the movies and they were chit-chatting about the car. Son stupidly told her that I had installed a hidden tracking device in the car and was able to monitor his every move. Told her he tried hard to find the device, but it was so well hidden that it was undetectable. It was all a joke, but he apparently was very convincing about it, and she didn't take it as a joke. Car buyer calls me up, angry, and demands that I remove the hidden tracking device on the car. I have no idea what she's talking about, so I hang up. I later mention the call to son, and he tells me about their conversation. So I call her and explain that son was joking. She isn't buying it. Then son calls her and says that he was joking. She still isn't buying it. About a week later, she calls and tells me she paid a mechanic to go over the car with a fine-tooth comb and look for the supposed tracking device. Obviously, he doesn't find anything. But she expects me and my son to reimburse her for the bill. First question: Do my son or me have any legal obligation to pay for her mechanic's bill? On top of all that, she _still_ believes that there's a tracking device on the car and wants me to prove that there's not. Otherwise, she says she'll sue me for committing fraud. I told her it's impossible for me to prove a negative, and I said if she really thinks there's a tracking device on her car, then the burden of proof is on her. But she said that because the tracking device is "undetectable," (according to my son), there's no way for her to find it. Second question: Does she have a legal leg to stand on? Do I really need to take steps to prove that there is no tracking device?
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I am not a lawyer. She can sue you and if she does you need to respond. Depending on the cost it may or may not be in small claims court. It may make the most sense to pay the cost as long as you get a copy of the report from the mechanic and an invoice to provide the charges. That also provides proof in your defense that there was no bug. It would help defend if something is planted later, since you have a time and date that no bug was found. I'm not sure the buyer was unreasonable here since your summary seems to be that your son made an effort to convince her it was bugged, scared her, and you hung up on her rather than trying to resolve it (partially because you didn't know the story). As for fraud, she would have to prove there is a bug. This is unlikely but, again, respond if sued.
>wants me to prove that there's not. Sure, let her bring that before a judge. Your defense: "Your honor if she could please explain how I can prove the non-existence of something, I'd be happy to oblige."
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Son told car buyer that I installed tracking device on it. Now car buyer wants to sue. [Maryland] My son went to college and I decided to sell the station wagon he had been driving around in high school. A friend of a friend offered to buy it for $2K. A few months later, my son bumped into car buyer at the movies and they were chit-chatting about the car. Son stupidly told her that I had installed a hidden tracking device in the car and was able to monitor his every move. Told her he tried hard to find the device, but it was so well hidden that it was undetectable. It was all a joke, but he apparently was very convincing about it, and she didn't take it as a joke. Car buyer calls me up, angry, and demands that I remove the hidden tracking device on the car. I have no idea what she's talking about, so I hang up. I later mention the call to son, and he tells me about their conversation. So I call her and explain that son was joking. She isn't buying it. Then son calls her and says that he was joking. She still isn't buying it. About a week later, she calls and tells me she paid a mechanic to go over the car with a fine-tooth comb and look for the supposed tracking device. Obviously, he doesn't find anything. But she expects me and my son to reimburse her for the bill. First question: Do my son or me have any legal obligation to pay for her mechanic's bill? On top of all that, she _still_ believes that there's a tracking device on the car and wants me to prove that there's not. Otherwise, she says she'll sue me for committing fraud. I told her it's impossible for me to prove a negative, and I said if she really thinks there's a tracking device on her car, then the burden of proof is on her. But she said that because the tracking device is "undetectable," (according to my son), there's no way for her to find it. Second question: Does she have a legal leg to stand on? Do I really need to take steps to prove that there is no tracking device?
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I'd tell her to pound sand. No offense intended, but she is earnestly taking your sons word as fact. I'd be skeptical even if it was my own child telling me that. The sale is done, it's her vehicle. If she takes it to a mechanic (and unless it's a lemon), it's her bill to foot.
If she sues you interplead your son for slander.
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Son told car buyer that I installed tracking device on it. Now car buyer wants to sue. [Maryland] My son went to college and I decided to sell the station wagon he had been driving around in high school. A friend of a friend offered to buy it for $2K. A few months later, my son bumped into car buyer at the movies and they were chit-chatting about the car. Son stupidly told her that I had installed a hidden tracking device in the car and was able to monitor his every move. Told her he tried hard to find the device, but it was so well hidden that it was undetectable. It was all a joke, but he apparently was very convincing about it, and she didn't take it as a joke. Car buyer calls me up, angry, and demands that I remove the hidden tracking device on the car. I have no idea what she's talking about, so I hang up. I later mention the call to son, and he tells me about their conversation. So I call her and explain that son was joking. She isn't buying it. Then son calls her and says that he was joking. She still isn't buying it. About a week later, she calls and tells me she paid a mechanic to go over the car with a fine-tooth comb and look for the supposed tracking device. Obviously, he doesn't find anything. But she expects me and my son to reimburse her for the bill. First question: Do my son or me have any legal obligation to pay for her mechanic's bill? On top of all that, she _still_ believes that there's a tracking device on the car and wants me to prove that there's not. Otherwise, she says she'll sue me for committing fraud. I told her it's impossible for me to prove a negative, and I said if she really thinks there's a tracking device on her car, then the burden of proof is on her. But she said that because the tracking device is "undetectable," (according to my son), there's no way for her to find it. Second question: Does she have a legal leg to stand on? Do I really need to take steps to prove that there is no tracking device?
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As she carries on daily life with her own tracking device (phone). And she thinks that the seller really cares about her enough to track her location? What a nut job.
If she sues you interplead your son for slander.
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Son told car buyer that I installed tracking device on it. Now car buyer wants to sue. [Maryland] My son went to college and I decided to sell the station wagon he had been driving around in high school. A friend of a friend offered to buy it for $2K. A few months later, my son bumped into car buyer at the movies and they were chit-chatting about the car. Son stupidly told her that I had installed a hidden tracking device in the car and was able to monitor his every move. Told her he tried hard to find the device, but it was so well hidden that it was undetectable. It was all a joke, but he apparently was very convincing about it, and she didn't take it as a joke. Car buyer calls me up, angry, and demands that I remove the hidden tracking device on the car. I have no idea what she's talking about, so I hang up. I later mention the call to son, and he tells me about their conversation. So I call her and explain that son was joking. She isn't buying it. Then son calls her and says that he was joking. She still isn't buying it. About a week later, she calls and tells me she paid a mechanic to go over the car with a fine-tooth comb and look for the supposed tracking device. Obviously, he doesn't find anything. But she expects me and my son to reimburse her for the bill. First question: Do my son or me have any legal obligation to pay for her mechanic's bill? On top of all that, she _still_ believes that there's a tracking device on the car and wants me to prove that there's not. Otherwise, she says she'll sue me for committing fraud. I told her it's impossible for me to prove a negative, and I said if she really thinks there's a tracking device on her car, then the burden of proof is on her. But she said that because the tracking device is "undetectable," (according to my son), there's no way for her to find it. Second question: Does she have a legal leg to stand on? Do I really need to take steps to prove that there is no tracking device?
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If she sues you interplead your son for slander.
Maybe I’m missing something. OP didn’t do anything here. He properly represented the car when it was sold, no? His son then made a comment that the purchaser took seriously and the purchaser took action. I am not a lawyer, but there would be no claim against the OP.
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Son told car buyer that I installed tracking device on it. Now car buyer wants to sue. [Maryland] My son went to college and I decided to sell the station wagon he had been driving around in high school. A friend of a friend offered to buy it for $2K. A few months later, my son bumped into car buyer at the movies and they were chit-chatting about the car. Son stupidly told her that I had installed a hidden tracking device in the car and was able to monitor his every move. Told her he tried hard to find the device, but it was so well hidden that it was undetectable. It was all a joke, but he apparently was very convincing about it, and she didn't take it as a joke. Car buyer calls me up, angry, and demands that I remove the hidden tracking device on the car. I have no idea what she's talking about, so I hang up. I later mention the call to son, and he tells me about their conversation. So I call her and explain that son was joking. She isn't buying it. Then son calls her and says that he was joking. She still isn't buying it. About a week later, she calls and tells me she paid a mechanic to go over the car with a fine-tooth comb and look for the supposed tracking device. Obviously, he doesn't find anything. But she expects me and my son to reimburse her for the bill. First question: Do my son or me have any legal obligation to pay for her mechanic's bill? On top of all that, she _still_ believes that there's a tracking device on the car and wants me to prove that there's not. Otherwise, she says she'll sue me for committing fraud. I told her it's impossible for me to prove a negative, and I said if she really thinks there's a tracking device on her car, then the burden of proof is on her. But she said that because the tracking device is "undetectable," (according to my son), there's no way for her to find it. Second question: Does she have a legal leg to stand on? Do I really need to take steps to prove that there is no tracking device?
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I am not a lawyer. She can sue you and if she does you need to respond. Depending on the cost it may or may not be in small claims court. It may make the most sense to pay the cost as long as you get a copy of the report from the mechanic and an invoice to provide the charges. That also provides proof in your defense that there was no bug. It would help defend if something is planted later, since you have a time and date that no bug was found. I'm not sure the buyer was unreasonable here since your summary seems to be that your son made an effort to convince her it was bugged, scared her, and you hung up on her rather than trying to resolve it (partially because you didn't know the story). As for fraud, she would have to prove there is a bug. This is unlikely but, again, respond if sued.
If she sues you interplead your son for slander.
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Son told car buyer that I installed tracking device on it. Now car buyer wants to sue. [Maryland] My son went to college and I decided to sell the station wagon he had been driving around in high school. A friend of a friend offered to buy it for $2K. A few months later, my son bumped into car buyer at the movies and they were chit-chatting about the car. Son stupidly told her that I had installed a hidden tracking device in the car and was able to monitor his every move. Told her he tried hard to find the device, but it was so well hidden that it was undetectable. It was all a joke, but he apparently was very convincing about it, and she didn't take it as a joke. Car buyer calls me up, angry, and demands that I remove the hidden tracking device on the car. I have no idea what she's talking about, so I hang up. I later mention the call to son, and he tells me about their conversation. So I call her and explain that son was joking. She isn't buying it. Then son calls her and says that he was joking. She still isn't buying it. About a week later, she calls and tells me she paid a mechanic to go over the car with a fine-tooth comb and look for the supposed tracking device. Obviously, he doesn't find anything. But she expects me and my son to reimburse her for the bill. First question: Do my son or me have any legal obligation to pay for her mechanic's bill? On top of all that, she _still_ believes that there's a tracking device on the car and wants me to prove that there's not. Otherwise, she says she'll sue me for committing fraud. I told her it's impossible for me to prove a negative, and I said if she really thinks there's a tracking device on her car, then the burden of proof is on her. But she said that because the tracking device is "undetectable," (according to my son), there's no way for her to find it. Second question: Does she have a legal leg to stand on? Do I really need to take steps to prove that there is no tracking device?
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As she carries on daily life with her own tracking device (phone). And she thinks that the seller really cares about her enough to track her location? What a nut job.
I'd tell her to pound sand. No offense intended, but she is earnestly taking your sons word as fact. I'd be skeptical even if it was my own child telling me that. The sale is done, it's her vehicle. If she takes it to a mechanic (and unless it's a lemon), it's her bill to foot.
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Son told car buyer that I installed tracking device on it. Now car buyer wants to sue. [Maryland] My son went to college and I decided to sell the station wagon he had been driving around in high school. A friend of a friend offered to buy it for $2K. A few months later, my son bumped into car buyer at the movies and they were chit-chatting about the car. Son stupidly told her that I had installed a hidden tracking device in the car and was able to monitor his every move. Told her he tried hard to find the device, but it was so well hidden that it was undetectable. It was all a joke, but he apparently was very convincing about it, and she didn't take it as a joke. Car buyer calls me up, angry, and demands that I remove the hidden tracking device on the car. I have no idea what she's talking about, so I hang up. I later mention the call to son, and he tells me about their conversation. So I call her and explain that son was joking. She isn't buying it. Then son calls her and says that he was joking. She still isn't buying it. About a week later, she calls and tells me she paid a mechanic to go over the car with a fine-tooth comb and look for the supposed tracking device. Obviously, he doesn't find anything. But she expects me and my son to reimburse her for the bill. First question: Do my son or me have any legal obligation to pay for her mechanic's bill? On top of all that, she _still_ believes that there's a tracking device on the car and wants me to prove that there's not. Otherwise, she says she'll sue me for committing fraud. I told her it's impossible for me to prove a negative, and I said if she really thinks there's a tracking device on her car, then the burden of proof is on her. But she said that because the tracking device is "undetectable," (according to my son), there's no way for her to find it. Second question: Does she have a legal leg to stand on? Do I really need to take steps to prove that there is no tracking device?
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Maybe I’m missing something. OP didn’t do anything here. He properly represented the car when it was sold, no? His son then made a comment that the purchaser took seriously and the purchaser took action. I am not a lawyer, but there would be no claim against the OP.
I'd tell her to pound sand. No offense intended, but she is earnestly taking your sons word as fact. I'd be skeptical even if it was my own child telling me that. The sale is done, it's her vehicle. If she takes it to a mechanic (and unless it's a lemon), it's her bill to foot.
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Son told car buyer that I installed tracking device on it. Now car buyer wants to sue. [Maryland] My son went to college and I decided to sell the station wagon he had been driving around in high school. A friend of a friend offered to buy it for $2K. A few months later, my son bumped into car buyer at the movies and they were chit-chatting about the car. Son stupidly told her that I had installed a hidden tracking device in the car and was able to monitor his every move. Told her he tried hard to find the device, but it was so well hidden that it was undetectable. It was all a joke, but he apparently was very convincing about it, and she didn't take it as a joke. Car buyer calls me up, angry, and demands that I remove the hidden tracking device on the car. I have no idea what she's talking about, so I hang up. I later mention the call to son, and he tells me about their conversation. So I call her and explain that son was joking. She isn't buying it. Then son calls her and says that he was joking. She still isn't buying it. About a week later, she calls and tells me she paid a mechanic to go over the car with a fine-tooth comb and look for the supposed tracking device. Obviously, he doesn't find anything. But she expects me and my son to reimburse her for the bill. First question: Do my son or me have any legal obligation to pay for her mechanic's bill? On top of all that, she _still_ believes that there's a tracking device on the car and wants me to prove that there's not. Otherwise, she says she'll sue me for committing fraud. I told her it's impossible for me to prove a negative, and I said if she really thinks there's a tracking device on her car, then the burden of proof is on her. But she said that because the tracking device is "undetectable," (according to my son), there's no way for her to find it. Second question: Does she have a legal leg to stand on? Do I really need to take steps to prove that there is no tracking device?
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I am not a lawyer. She can sue you and if she does you need to respond. Depending on the cost it may or may not be in small claims court. It may make the most sense to pay the cost as long as you get a copy of the report from the mechanic and an invoice to provide the charges. That also provides proof in your defense that there was no bug. It would help defend if something is planted later, since you have a time and date that no bug was found. I'm not sure the buyer was unreasonable here since your summary seems to be that your son made an effort to convince her it was bugged, scared her, and you hung up on her rather than trying to resolve it (partially because you didn't know the story). As for fraud, she would have to prove there is a bug. This is unlikely but, again, respond if sued.
I'd tell her to pound sand. No offense intended, but she is earnestly taking your sons word as fact. I'd be skeptical even if it was my own child telling me that. The sale is done, it's her vehicle. If she takes it to a mechanic (and unless it's a lemon), it's her bill to foot.
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Son told car buyer that I installed tracking device on it. Now car buyer wants to sue. [Maryland] My son went to college and I decided to sell the station wagon he had been driving around in high school. A friend of a friend offered to buy it for $2K. A few months later, my son bumped into car buyer at the movies and they were chit-chatting about the car. Son stupidly told her that I had installed a hidden tracking device in the car and was able to monitor his every move. Told her he tried hard to find the device, but it was so well hidden that it was undetectable. It was all a joke, but he apparently was very convincing about it, and she didn't take it as a joke. Car buyer calls me up, angry, and demands that I remove the hidden tracking device on the car. I have no idea what she's talking about, so I hang up. I later mention the call to son, and he tells me about their conversation. So I call her and explain that son was joking. She isn't buying it. Then son calls her and says that he was joking. She still isn't buying it. About a week later, she calls and tells me she paid a mechanic to go over the car with a fine-tooth comb and look for the supposed tracking device. Obviously, he doesn't find anything. But she expects me and my son to reimburse her for the bill. First question: Do my son or me have any legal obligation to pay for her mechanic's bill? On top of all that, she _still_ believes that there's a tracking device on the car and wants me to prove that there's not. Otherwise, she says she'll sue me for committing fraud. I told her it's impossible for me to prove a negative, and I said if she really thinks there's a tracking device on her car, then the burden of proof is on her. But she said that because the tracking device is "undetectable," (according to my son), there's no way for her to find it. Second question: Does she have a legal leg to stand on? Do I really need to take steps to prove that there is no tracking device?
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As she carries on daily life with her own tracking device (phone). And she thinks that the seller really cares about her enough to track her location? What a nut job.
I am not a lawyer. She can sue you and if she does you need to respond. Depending on the cost it may or may not be in small claims court. It may make the most sense to pay the cost as long as you get a copy of the report from the mechanic and an invoice to provide the charges. That also provides proof in your defense that there was no bug. It would help defend if something is planted later, since you have a time and date that no bug was found. I'm not sure the buyer was unreasonable here since your summary seems to be that your son made an effort to convince her it was bugged, scared her, and you hung up on her rather than trying to resolve it (partially because you didn't know the story). As for fraud, she would have to prove there is a bug. This is unlikely but, again, respond if sued.
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Son told car buyer that I installed tracking device on it. Now car buyer wants to sue. [Maryland] My son went to college and I decided to sell the station wagon he had been driving around in high school. A friend of a friend offered to buy it for $2K. A few months later, my son bumped into car buyer at the movies and they were chit-chatting about the car. Son stupidly told her that I had installed a hidden tracking device in the car and was able to monitor his every move. Told her he tried hard to find the device, but it was so well hidden that it was undetectable. It was all a joke, but he apparently was very convincing about it, and she didn't take it as a joke. Car buyer calls me up, angry, and demands that I remove the hidden tracking device on the car. I have no idea what she's talking about, so I hang up. I later mention the call to son, and he tells me about their conversation. So I call her and explain that son was joking. She isn't buying it. Then son calls her and says that he was joking. She still isn't buying it. About a week later, she calls and tells me she paid a mechanic to go over the car with a fine-tooth comb and look for the supposed tracking device. Obviously, he doesn't find anything. But she expects me and my son to reimburse her for the bill. First question: Do my son or me have any legal obligation to pay for her mechanic's bill? On top of all that, she _still_ believes that there's a tracking device on the car and wants me to prove that there's not. Otherwise, she says she'll sue me for committing fraud. I told her it's impossible for me to prove a negative, and I said if she really thinks there's a tracking device on her car, then the burden of proof is on her. But she said that because the tracking device is "undetectable," (according to my son), there's no way for her to find it. Second question: Does she have a legal leg to stand on? Do I really need to take steps to prove that there is no tracking device?
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I am not a lawyer. She can sue you and if she does you need to respond. Depending on the cost it may or may not be in small claims court. It may make the most sense to pay the cost as long as you get a copy of the report from the mechanic and an invoice to provide the charges. That also provides proof in your defense that there was no bug. It would help defend if something is planted later, since you have a time and date that no bug was found. I'm not sure the buyer was unreasonable here since your summary seems to be that your son made an effort to convince her it was bugged, scared her, and you hung up on her rather than trying to resolve it (partially because you didn't know the story). As for fraud, she would have to prove there is a bug. This is unlikely but, again, respond if sued.
Maybe I’m missing something. OP didn’t do anything here. He properly represented the car when it was sold, no? His son then made a comment that the purchaser took seriously and the purchaser took action. I am not a lawyer, but there would be no claim against the OP.
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Son told car buyer that I installed tracking device on it. Now car buyer wants to sue. [Maryland] My son went to college and I decided to sell the station wagon he had been driving around in high school. A friend of a friend offered to buy it for $2K. A few months later, my son bumped into car buyer at the movies and they were chit-chatting about the car. Son stupidly told her that I had installed a hidden tracking device in the car and was able to monitor his every move. Told her he tried hard to find the device, but it was so well hidden that it was undetectable. It was all a joke, but he apparently was very convincing about it, and she didn't take it as a joke. Car buyer calls me up, angry, and demands that I remove the hidden tracking device on the car. I have no idea what she's talking about, so I hang up. I later mention the call to son, and he tells me about their conversation. So I call her and explain that son was joking. She isn't buying it. Then son calls her and says that he was joking. She still isn't buying it. About a week later, she calls and tells me she paid a mechanic to go over the car with a fine-tooth comb and look for the supposed tracking device. Obviously, he doesn't find anything. But she expects me and my son to reimburse her for the bill. First question: Do my son or me have any legal obligation to pay for her mechanic's bill? On top of all that, she _still_ believes that there's a tracking device on the car and wants me to prove that there's not. Otherwise, she says she'll sue me for committing fraud. I told her it's impossible for me to prove a negative, and I said if she really thinks there's a tracking device on her car, then the burden of proof is on her. But she said that because the tracking device is "undetectable," (according to my son), there's no way for her to find it. Second question: Does she have a legal leg to stand on? Do I really need to take steps to prove that there is no tracking device?
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Id make your son pay for the mechanic checking the car for starting that whole mess in the first place , maybe then she'll let it go
I wonder if your son opened himself up to liability. You definitely haven't. Just make sure you go to any court hearing you are summoned to. Judges see people talking about invisible tracking devices and other such paranoid delusions pretty regularly (or more regularly than most) so I don't think the judge will indulge this.
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Son told car buyer that I installed tracking device on it. Now car buyer wants to sue. [Maryland] My son went to college and I decided to sell the station wagon he had been driving around in high school. A friend of a friend offered to buy it for $2K. A few months later, my son bumped into car buyer at the movies and they were chit-chatting about the car. Son stupidly told her that I had installed a hidden tracking device in the car and was able to monitor his every move. Told her he tried hard to find the device, but it was so well hidden that it was undetectable. It was all a joke, but he apparently was very convincing about it, and she didn't take it as a joke. Car buyer calls me up, angry, and demands that I remove the hidden tracking device on the car. I have no idea what she's talking about, so I hang up. I later mention the call to son, and he tells me about their conversation. So I call her and explain that son was joking. She isn't buying it. Then son calls her and says that he was joking. She still isn't buying it. About a week later, she calls and tells me she paid a mechanic to go over the car with a fine-tooth comb and look for the supposed tracking device. Obviously, he doesn't find anything. But she expects me and my son to reimburse her for the bill. First question: Do my son or me have any legal obligation to pay for her mechanic's bill? On top of all that, she _still_ believes that there's a tracking device on the car and wants me to prove that there's not. Otherwise, she says she'll sue me for committing fraud. I told her it's impossible for me to prove a negative, and I said if she really thinks there's a tracking device on her car, then the burden of proof is on her. But she said that because the tracking device is "undetectable," (according to my son), there's no way for her to find it. Second question: Does she have a legal leg to stand on? Do I really need to take steps to prove that there is no tracking device?
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I am not a lawyer. She can sue you and if she does you need to respond. Depending on the cost it may or may not be in small claims court. It may make the most sense to pay the cost as long as you get a copy of the report from the mechanic and an invoice to provide the charges. That also provides proof in your defense that there was no bug. It would help defend if something is planted later, since you have a time and date that no bug was found. I'm not sure the buyer was unreasonable here since your summary seems to be that your son made an effort to convince her it was bugged, scared her, and you hung up on her rather than trying to resolve it (partially because you didn't know the story). As for fraud, she would have to prove there is a bug. This is unlikely but, again, respond if sued.
I wonder if your son opened himself up to liability. You definitely haven't. Just make sure you go to any court hearing you are summoned to. Judges see people talking about invisible tracking devices and other such paranoid delusions pretty regularly (or more regularly than most) so I don't think the judge will indulge this.
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Son told car buyer that I installed tracking device on it. Now car buyer wants to sue. [Maryland] My son went to college and I decided to sell the station wagon he had been driving around in high school. A friend of a friend offered to buy it for $2K. A few months later, my son bumped into car buyer at the movies and they were chit-chatting about the car. Son stupidly told her that I had installed a hidden tracking device in the car and was able to monitor his every move. Told her he tried hard to find the device, but it was so well hidden that it was undetectable. It was all a joke, but he apparently was very convincing about it, and she didn't take it as a joke. Car buyer calls me up, angry, and demands that I remove the hidden tracking device on the car. I have no idea what she's talking about, so I hang up. I later mention the call to son, and he tells me about their conversation. So I call her and explain that son was joking. She isn't buying it. Then son calls her and says that he was joking. She still isn't buying it. About a week later, she calls and tells me she paid a mechanic to go over the car with a fine-tooth comb and look for the supposed tracking device. Obviously, he doesn't find anything. But she expects me and my son to reimburse her for the bill. First question: Do my son or me have any legal obligation to pay for her mechanic's bill? On top of all that, she _still_ believes that there's a tracking device on the car and wants me to prove that there's not. Otherwise, she says she'll sue me for committing fraud. I told her it's impossible for me to prove a negative, and I said if she really thinks there's a tracking device on her car, then the burden of proof is on her. But she said that because the tracking device is "undetectable," (according to my son), there's no way for her to find it. Second question: Does she have a legal leg to stand on? Do I really need to take steps to prove that there is no tracking device?
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I was abducted by aliens and they put a tracking device in me. No one could find it until I spent some time at Sheppard Pratt and they were able to find and remove it. Refer her to Sheppard Pratt.
I wonder if your son opened himself up to liability. You definitely haven't. Just make sure you go to any court hearing you are summoned to. Judges see people talking about invisible tracking devices and other such paranoid delusions pretty regularly (or more regularly than most) so I don't think the judge will indulge this.
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Son told car buyer that I installed tracking device on it. Now car buyer wants to sue. [Maryland] My son went to college and I decided to sell the station wagon he had been driving around in high school. A friend of a friend offered to buy it for $2K. A few months later, my son bumped into car buyer at the movies and they were chit-chatting about the car. Son stupidly told her that I had installed a hidden tracking device in the car and was able to monitor his every move. Told her he tried hard to find the device, but it was so well hidden that it was undetectable. It was all a joke, but he apparently was very convincing about it, and she didn't take it as a joke. Car buyer calls me up, angry, and demands that I remove the hidden tracking device on the car. I have no idea what she's talking about, so I hang up. I later mention the call to son, and he tells me about their conversation. So I call her and explain that son was joking. She isn't buying it. Then son calls her and says that he was joking. She still isn't buying it. About a week later, she calls and tells me she paid a mechanic to go over the car with a fine-tooth comb and look for the supposed tracking device. Obviously, he doesn't find anything. But she expects me and my son to reimburse her for the bill. First question: Do my son or me have any legal obligation to pay for her mechanic's bill? On top of all that, she _still_ believes that there's a tracking device on the car and wants me to prove that there's not. Otherwise, she says she'll sue me for committing fraud. I told her it's impossible for me to prove a negative, and I said if she really thinks there's a tracking device on her car, then the burden of proof is on her. But she said that because the tracking device is "undetectable," (according to my son), there's no way for her to find it. Second question: Does she have a legal leg to stand on? Do I really need to take steps to prove that there is no tracking device?
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I am not a lawyer. She can sue you and if she does you need to respond. Depending on the cost it may or may not be in small claims court. It may make the most sense to pay the cost as long as you get a copy of the report from the mechanic and an invoice to provide the charges. That also provides proof in your defense that there was no bug. It would help defend if something is planted later, since you have a time and date that no bug was found. I'm not sure the buyer was unreasonable here since your summary seems to be that your son made an effort to convince her it was bugged, scared her, and you hung up on her rather than trying to resolve it (partially because you didn't know the story). As for fraud, she would have to prove there is a bug. This is unlikely but, again, respond if sued.
Id make your son pay for the mechanic checking the car for starting that whole mess in the first place , maybe then she'll let it go
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Son told car buyer that I installed tracking device on it. Now car buyer wants to sue. [Maryland] My son went to college and I decided to sell the station wagon he had been driving around in high school. A friend of a friend offered to buy it for $2K. A few months later, my son bumped into car buyer at the movies and they were chit-chatting about the car. Son stupidly told her that I had installed a hidden tracking device in the car and was able to monitor his every move. Told her he tried hard to find the device, but it was so well hidden that it was undetectable. It was all a joke, but he apparently was very convincing about it, and she didn't take it as a joke. Car buyer calls me up, angry, and demands that I remove the hidden tracking device on the car. I have no idea what she's talking about, so I hang up. I later mention the call to son, and he tells me about their conversation. So I call her and explain that son was joking. She isn't buying it. Then son calls her and says that he was joking. She still isn't buying it. About a week later, she calls and tells me she paid a mechanic to go over the car with a fine-tooth comb and look for the supposed tracking device. Obviously, he doesn't find anything. But she expects me and my son to reimburse her for the bill. First question: Do my son or me have any legal obligation to pay for her mechanic's bill? On top of all that, she _still_ believes that there's a tracking device on the car and wants me to prove that there's not. Otherwise, she says she'll sue me for committing fraud. I told her it's impossible for me to prove a negative, and I said if she really thinks there's a tracking device on her car, then the burden of proof is on her. But she said that because the tracking device is "undetectable," (according to my son), there's no way for her to find it. Second question: Does she have a legal leg to stand on? Do I really need to take steps to prove that there is no tracking device?
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I was abducted by aliens and they put a tracking device in me. No one could find it until I spent some time at Sheppard Pratt and they were able to find and remove it. Refer her to Sheppard Pratt.
Id make your son pay for the mechanic checking the car for starting that whole mess in the first place , maybe then she'll let it go
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Insurance declining my baby’s stay in NICU - $125k bill So we live in Texas, and my wife and I both have separate insurance policies. Her work insurance is through Allianz Care which is an international policy. They contract through Olympus billing and Aetna PPO in America. Her works HR policy is that children and spouses cannot be added to the policy. Knowing this I started an insurance group (eff. 11/1) through my small corporation and added my son. His due date was originally 11/17, so I thought 11/1 would be sufficiently early. This was a huge mistake as he was born prematurely on 10/28. Due to being premature he spent the next four and a half days in the NICU. I also had a previous insurance policy that I cancelled effective 10/31 as I was transitioning to the new policy with BCBS effective 11/1. The hospital says the claim is still pending, and that the total is, to be exact, $127,500. The insurance people from Allianz Care have told us they have declined that claim and will not cover it. Some people had told me that under the ACA and possibly the newborns and mothers protection act of 1996, newborns are automatically covered under the mothers policy for the first 30 days. Is this true? We are in wait-and-see mode right now but are terrified that we may never be able to buy a home or retire. Any other opinions or ideas regarding recourse for us at this time are greatly appreciated.
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There’s no need to add baby to your insurance before they are born. The birth itself is a qualifying life event, which lets you add baby on the day they are born, retroactively in nature. You should still be able to secure coverage based on the date of the babies birth.
Not a lawyer. Check out the 2012 update to the Newborns and Mother’s Health Protecion Act of 1996. It affects how newborns are covered by their mother’s insurance. I’m not a person with a ton of experience in this area (I had kids and used insurance), so I won’t tell you anything definitive, but that Act looks to me like it’ll provide you with a potential path forward. Good luck
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Insurance declining my baby’s stay in NICU - $125k bill So we live in Texas, and my wife and I both have separate insurance policies. Her work insurance is through Allianz Care which is an international policy. They contract through Olympus billing and Aetna PPO in America. Her works HR policy is that children and spouses cannot be added to the policy. Knowing this I started an insurance group (eff. 11/1) through my small corporation and added my son. His due date was originally 11/17, so I thought 11/1 would be sufficiently early. This was a huge mistake as he was born prematurely on 10/28. Due to being premature he spent the next four and a half days in the NICU. I also had a previous insurance policy that I cancelled effective 10/31 as I was transitioning to the new policy with BCBS effective 11/1. The hospital says the claim is still pending, and that the total is, to be exact, $127,500. The insurance people from Allianz Care have told us they have declined that claim and will not cover it. Some people had told me that under the ACA and possibly the newborns and mothers protection act of 1996, newborns are automatically covered under the mothers policy for the first 30 days. Is this true? We are in wait-and-see mode right now but are terrified that we may never be able to buy a home or retire. Any other opinions or ideas regarding recourse for us at this time are greatly appreciated.
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Was your son on the policy that you canceled on October 31st?
There’s no need to add baby to your insurance before they are born. The birth itself is a qualifying life event, which lets you add baby on the day they are born, retroactively in nature. You should still be able to secure coverage based on the date of the babies birth.
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Insurance declining my baby’s stay in NICU - $125k bill So we live in Texas, and my wife and I both have separate insurance policies. Her work insurance is through Allianz Care which is an international policy. They contract through Olympus billing and Aetna PPO in America. Her works HR policy is that children and spouses cannot be added to the policy. Knowing this I started an insurance group (eff. 11/1) through my small corporation and added my son. His due date was originally 11/17, so I thought 11/1 would be sufficiently early. This was a huge mistake as he was born prematurely on 10/28. Due to being premature he spent the next four and a half days in the NICU. I also had a previous insurance policy that I cancelled effective 10/31 as I was transitioning to the new policy with BCBS effective 11/1. The hospital says the claim is still pending, and that the total is, to be exact, $127,500. The insurance people from Allianz Care have told us they have declined that claim and will not cover it. Some people had told me that under the ACA and possibly the newborns and mothers protection act of 1996, newborns are automatically covered under the mothers policy for the first 30 days. Is this true? We are in wait-and-see mode right now but are terrified that we may never be able to buy a home or retire. Any other opinions or ideas regarding recourse for us at this time are greatly appreciated.
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It should hypothetically work under your old policy since it was still in effect at the time. They usually give you time to report the last of your claims.
Not a lawyer. Check out the 2012 update to the Newborns and Mother’s Health Protecion Act of 1996. It affects how newborns are covered by their mother’s insurance. I’m not a person with a ton of experience in this area (I had kids and used insurance), so I won’t tell you anything definitive, but that Act looks to me like it’ll provide you with a potential path forward. Good luck
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Insurance declining my baby’s stay in NICU - $125k bill So we live in Texas, and my wife and I both have separate insurance policies. Her work insurance is through Allianz Care which is an international policy. They contract through Olympus billing and Aetna PPO in America. Her works HR policy is that children and spouses cannot be added to the policy. Knowing this I started an insurance group (eff. 11/1) through my small corporation and added my son. His due date was originally 11/17, so I thought 11/1 would be sufficiently early. This was a huge mistake as he was born prematurely on 10/28. Due to being premature he spent the next four and a half days in the NICU. I also had a previous insurance policy that I cancelled effective 10/31 as I was transitioning to the new policy with BCBS effective 11/1. The hospital says the claim is still pending, and that the total is, to be exact, $127,500. The insurance people from Allianz Care have told us they have declined that claim and will not cover it. Some people had told me that under the ACA and possibly the newborns and mothers protection act of 1996, newborns are automatically covered under the mothers policy for the first 30 days. Is this true? We are in wait-and-see mode right now but are terrified that we may never be able to buy a home or retire. Any other opinions or ideas regarding recourse for us at this time are greatly appreciated.
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It should hypothetically work under your old policy since it was still in effect at the time. They usually give you time to report the last of your claims.
Was your son on the policy that you canceled on October 31st?
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Insurance declining my baby’s stay in NICU - $125k bill So we live in Texas, and my wife and I both have separate insurance policies. Her work insurance is through Allianz Care which is an international policy. They contract through Olympus billing and Aetna PPO in America. Her works HR policy is that children and spouses cannot be added to the policy. Knowing this I started an insurance group (eff. 11/1) through my small corporation and added my son. His due date was originally 11/17, so I thought 11/1 would be sufficiently early. This was a huge mistake as he was born prematurely on 10/28. Due to being premature he spent the next four and a half days in the NICU. I also had a previous insurance policy that I cancelled effective 10/31 as I was transitioning to the new policy with BCBS effective 11/1. The hospital says the claim is still pending, and that the total is, to be exact, $127,500. The insurance people from Allianz Care have told us they have declined that claim and will not cover it. Some people had told me that under the ACA and possibly the newborns and mothers protection act of 1996, newborns are automatically covered under the mothers policy for the first 30 days. Is this true? We are in wait-and-see mode right now but are terrified that we may never be able to buy a home or retire. Any other opinions or ideas regarding recourse for us at this time are greatly appreciated.
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Former insurance biller here - if the claim is denied after all of your coverage issues are solved do not be afraid to appeal. Include medical records, documentation, and a firmly-worded letter explaining why the event should be both covered and approved. Most initial-level denials are computer generated due to incorrect procedure coding or incorrect diagnosis coding. A real person typically doesn't see the claim until it is "sent back" to be reprocessed. Best of luck!
Not a lawyer. Check out the 2012 update to the Newborns and Mother’s Health Protecion Act of 1996. It affects how newborns are covered by their mother’s insurance. I’m not a person with a ton of experience in this area (I had kids and used insurance), so I won’t tell you anything definitive, but that Act looks to me like it’ll provide you with a potential path forward. Good luck
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Insurance declining my baby’s stay in NICU - $125k bill So we live in Texas, and my wife and I both have separate insurance policies. Her work insurance is through Allianz Care which is an international policy. They contract through Olympus billing and Aetna PPO in America. Her works HR policy is that children and spouses cannot be added to the policy. Knowing this I started an insurance group (eff. 11/1) through my small corporation and added my son. His due date was originally 11/17, so I thought 11/1 would be sufficiently early. This was a huge mistake as he was born prematurely on 10/28. Due to being premature he spent the next four and a half days in the NICU. I also had a previous insurance policy that I cancelled effective 10/31 as I was transitioning to the new policy with BCBS effective 11/1. The hospital says the claim is still pending, and that the total is, to be exact, $127,500. The insurance people from Allianz Care have told us they have declined that claim and will not cover it. Some people had told me that under the ACA and possibly the newborns and mothers protection act of 1996, newborns are automatically covered under the mothers policy for the first 30 days. Is this true? We are in wait-and-see mode right now but are terrified that we may never be able to buy a home or retire. Any other opinions or ideas regarding recourse for us at this time are greatly appreciated.
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Was your son on the policy that you canceled on October 31st?
Former insurance biller here - if the claim is denied after all of your coverage issues are solved do not be afraid to appeal. Include medical records, documentation, and a firmly-worded letter explaining why the event should be both covered and approved. Most initial-level denials are computer generated due to incorrect procedure coding or incorrect diagnosis coding. A real person typically doesn't see the claim until it is "sent back" to be reprocessed. Best of luck!
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Insurance declining my baby’s stay in NICU - $125k bill So we live in Texas, and my wife and I both have separate insurance policies. Her work insurance is through Allianz Care which is an international policy. They contract through Olympus billing and Aetna PPO in America. Her works HR policy is that children and spouses cannot be added to the policy. Knowing this I started an insurance group (eff. 11/1) through my small corporation and added my son. His due date was originally 11/17, so I thought 11/1 would be sufficiently early. This was a huge mistake as he was born prematurely on 10/28. Due to being premature he spent the next four and a half days in the NICU. I also had a previous insurance policy that I cancelled effective 10/31 as I was transitioning to the new policy with BCBS effective 11/1. The hospital says the claim is still pending, and that the total is, to be exact, $127,500. The insurance people from Allianz Care have told us they have declined that claim and will not cover it. Some people had told me that under the ACA and possibly the newborns and mothers protection act of 1996, newborns are automatically covered under the mothers policy for the first 30 days. Is this true? We are in wait-and-see mode right now but are terrified that we may never be able to buy a home or retire. Any other opinions or ideas regarding recourse for us at this time are greatly appreciated.
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Former insurance biller here - if the claim is denied after all of your coverage issues are solved do not be afraid to appeal. Include medical records, documentation, and a firmly-worded letter explaining why the event should be both covered and approved. Most initial-level denials are computer generated due to incorrect procedure coding or incorrect diagnosis coding. A real person typically doesn't see the claim until it is "sent back" to be reprocessed. Best of luck!
Is your family eligibe for Medicaid?
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Insurance declining my baby’s stay in NICU - $125k bill So we live in Texas, and my wife and I both have separate insurance policies. Her work insurance is through Allianz Care which is an international policy. They contract through Olympus billing and Aetna PPO in America. Her works HR policy is that children and spouses cannot be added to the policy. Knowing this I started an insurance group (eff. 11/1) through my small corporation and added my son. His due date was originally 11/17, so I thought 11/1 would be sufficiently early. This was a huge mistake as he was born prematurely on 10/28. Due to being premature he spent the next four and a half days in the NICU. I also had a previous insurance policy that I cancelled effective 10/31 as I was transitioning to the new policy with BCBS effective 11/1. The hospital says the claim is still pending, and that the total is, to be exact, $127,500. The insurance people from Allianz Care have told us they have declined that claim and will not cover it. Some people had told me that under the ACA and possibly the newborns and mothers protection act of 1996, newborns are automatically covered under the mothers policy for the first 30 days. Is this true? We are in wait-and-see mode right now but are terrified that we may never be able to buy a home or retire. Any other opinions or ideas regarding recourse for us at this time are greatly appreciated.
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Not a lawyer. Check out the 2012 update to the Newborns and Mother’s Health Protecion Act of 1996. It affects how newborns are covered by their mother’s insurance. I’m not a person with a ton of experience in this area (I had kids and used insurance), so I won’t tell you anything definitive, but that Act looks to me like it’ll provide you with a potential path forward. Good luck
Was your son on the policy that you canceled on October 31st?
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(VA) Premie baby NICU stay deemed not medically necessary by insurance and now hospital is billing us Our baby was in the nicu for 4 weeks. We were finally given the okay to take her home and we did with no issue. Insurance covered all but final few days of stay and is claiming it was "not medically necessary" for those days. Now hospital is billing us for over 10K and is threatening collections. We were never told we could take home the baby earlier and did so when the doctors told us. Have already had the hospital appeal it to insurance twice. What course do we have to fight this with the hospital and/or insurance? Thanks
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If you’ve already appealed twice, you may have to go to your state board of insurance. For Virginia it appears to be the SCC. I’m not familiar with regulations in VA, but it might be the facility’s responsibility to eat the cost of the bill when the denial is based on medical necessity.
This is concerning to me, and definitely demonstrates a failure by the hospital at some level. All hospitals have a department that is responsible for managing/assessing in-house patients. Depending on the facility and how they assign the duties, this could be UM (Utilization Management), UR (Utilization Review), CM (Case Management) or some other name. That department is responsible for understanding what patients are in-house, what resources are being used in their care, and supposed to be keeping up with the insurance to make sure there is coverage. If your child reached a point to where he/she should have been discharged, the UM/UR/CM departments should have been on top of this. For this reason, I would reach out to the hospital administration, either the CFO or CEO. The collector following up on you is likely somebody low level and not at all taking a step back and seeing the big picture in that they got paid/contractualized $490K of a $500K bill (making those numbers up) and also might not have any pull in having this adjusted, which is what I would recommend were it a hospital I worked with. The CEO/CFO will understand the big picture. Quite honestly, with a medical necessity denial, the hospital should eat this.
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(VA) Premie baby NICU stay deemed not medically necessary by insurance and now hospital is billing us Our baby was in the nicu for 4 weeks. We were finally given the okay to take her home and we did with no issue. Insurance covered all but final few days of stay and is claiming it was "not medically necessary" for those days. Now hospital is billing us for over 10K and is threatening collections. We were never told we could take home the baby earlier and did so when the doctors told us. Have already had the hospital appeal it to insurance twice. What course do we have to fight this with the hospital and/or insurance? Thanks
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This is concerning to me, and definitely demonstrates a failure by the hospital at some level. All hospitals have a department that is responsible for managing/assessing in-house patients. Depending on the facility and how they assign the duties, this could be UM (Utilization Management), UR (Utilization Review), CM (Case Management) or some other name. That department is responsible for understanding what patients are in-house, what resources are being used in their care, and supposed to be keeping up with the insurance to make sure there is coverage. If your child reached a point to where he/she should have been discharged, the UM/UR/CM departments should have been on top of this. For this reason, I would reach out to the hospital administration, either the CFO or CEO. The collector following up on you is likely somebody low level and not at all taking a step back and seeing the big picture in that they got paid/contractualized $490K of a $500K bill (making those numbers up) and also might not have any pull in having this adjusted, which is what I would recommend were it a hospital I worked with. The CEO/CFO will understand the big picture. Quite honestly, with a medical necessity denial, the hospital should eat this.
You can ask if they have any charity programs could help you. Since it's already been disputed and denied you could possibly contact a lawyer to go after your insurance company.
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(VA) Premie baby NICU stay deemed not medically necessary by insurance and now hospital is billing us Our baby was in the nicu for 4 weeks. We were finally given the okay to take her home and we did with no issue. Insurance covered all but final few days of stay and is claiming it was "not medically necessary" for those days. Now hospital is billing us for over 10K and is threatening collections. We were never told we could take home the baby earlier and did so when the doctors told us. Have already had the hospital appeal it to insurance twice. What course do we have to fight this with the hospital and/or insurance? Thanks
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You can ask if they have any charity programs could help you. Since it's already been disputed and denied you could possibly contact a lawyer to go after your insurance company.
If you’ve already appealed twice, you may have to go to your state board of insurance. For Virginia it appears to be the SCC. I’m not familiar with regulations in VA, but it might be the facility’s responsibility to eat the cost of the bill when the denial is based on medical necessity.
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Insurance denied impatient hospital stay because they deemed it “not medically necessary”. In NYC. I went to urgent care for a kidney infection, with pain and high fever. It was confirmed by urgent care with rapid urine culture, I was sent home with script for antibiotics and was told to go to ER the next day if I did not feel better. I did not feel better in the morning. I called urgent care and was directed to ER. I spent the next 17 hours in ER, with the expectation of not being admitted. I received IV antibiotics, and had lots of tests done. My kidney infection was reconfirmed, but no more threatening condition was identified. I was supposed to be released around 7PM, but due to shift change and miscommunication the decision to release me wasn’t completed until 2:30AM, when I was again running a high fever. My attending told me she wasn’t comfortable sending me home and admitted me. I was transferred upstairs, to try and get some sleep in a hallway, as there were no rooms available. I was discharged the next day, late afternoon. I was required to inform my insurance of any inpatient hospital admission. I technically knew this, but forgot it in the moment due to the illness, stress of the day, and the fever I was running when admittance was decided. My fault. Insurance is denying coverage for the entire inpatient stay, since nothing worse than an infection was diagnosed. But I was following medical advice. I was told to stay, is that not enough for something to be considered “medically necessary?” Or is that why I’m supposed to inform them, so insurance can argue with doctors against admitting me if doc can’t prove it’s medically necessary? I expect a giant bill in the mail. Like most people I don’t have the money for that. That’s why I pay enormous insurance premiums. What should I do now? Am I totally screwed because I didn’t inform insurance I was being admitted?
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Rejected claims do not have to be appealed, but this sounds like a denied claim. Follow your insurer's appeals process. Have the doctor write a letter of "medical necessity." File everything electronically and keep records; you need to keep a digital paper trail as a reference when dealing with your insurer. Talk to a social worker at the hospital. Talk to your state insurance commissioner if you have to. If all that fails, google [hospital name] + financial assistance program in order to see what they may offer. But there are many steps for you to take, starting with an appeal. How long before you informed?
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Insurance denied impatient hospital stay because they deemed it “not medically necessary”. In NYC. I went to urgent care for a kidney infection, with pain and high fever. It was confirmed by urgent care with rapid urine culture, I was sent home with script for antibiotics and was told to go to ER the next day if I did not feel better. I did not feel better in the morning. I called urgent care and was directed to ER. I spent the next 17 hours in ER, with the expectation of not being admitted. I received IV antibiotics, and had lots of tests done. My kidney infection was reconfirmed, but no more threatening condition was identified. I was supposed to be released around 7PM, but due to shift change and miscommunication the decision to release me wasn’t completed until 2:30AM, when I was again running a high fever. My attending told me she wasn’t comfortable sending me home and admitted me. I was transferred upstairs, to try and get some sleep in a hallway, as there were no rooms available. I was discharged the next day, late afternoon. I was required to inform my insurance of any inpatient hospital admission. I technically knew this, but forgot it in the moment due to the illness, stress of the day, and the fever I was running when admittance was decided. My fault. Insurance is denying coverage for the entire inpatient stay, since nothing worse than an infection was diagnosed. But I was following medical advice. I was told to stay, is that not enough for something to be considered “medically necessary?” Or is that why I’m supposed to inform them, so insurance can argue with doctors against admitting me if doc can’t prove it’s medically necessary? I expect a giant bill in the mail. Like most people I don’t have the money for that. That’s why I pay enormous insurance premiums. What should I do now? Am I totally screwed because I didn’t inform insurance I was being admitted?
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For each claim denied ask the doctors to file an appeal on your behalf to show the necessity Better to have a first appeal done by the doctor because they can include all the infos
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My wife was involve in a car accident. Another car ran a red light and t boned her. There was an officer present and witnessed the guy run the red light and ticketed him for it. We have made our insurance aware of the accident and they have contacted his insurance, and they are saying he has yet to file a claim and they cannot do anything until he does. There was a police report made with all involveds information. What should we do from here? Thank you
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See about getting a personal accident attorney and if they’ll take the case on contingency. You’ll see a whole new level of respect from the insurance company, plus you’ll get a lot more money for your wife’s injuries snd car repairs. They also handle all the paperwork which in itself is a huge relief. (This alone makes it worth it). Given you have a police eye-witness, you should have an easy time getting someone on board.
I was t-boned by a police car in October. He sped through a red light without his siren on and trees and houses prevented me seeing him. Both cars were totaled. The insurance company ended up paying me the full value of my 8 month old car, as well as the ER and ambulance bill. Deal directly with the insurance company. If his insurance company isn’t cooperative you can let your insurance company deal with them.
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My wife was involve in a car accident. Another car ran a red light and t boned her. There was an officer present and witnessed the guy run the red light and ticketed him for it. We have made our insurance aware of the accident and they have contacted his insurance, and they are saying he has yet to file a claim and they cannot do anything until he does. There was a police report made with all involveds information. What should we do from here? Thank you
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You want your insurance company to subrogate. They will pursue the other guy on your behalf. That includes collecting your deductible. As long as it’s determined to not be your fault.
I was t-boned by a police car in October. He sped through a red light without his siren on and trees and houses prevented me seeing him. Both cars were totaled. The insurance company ended up paying me the full value of my 8 month old car, as well as the ER and ambulance bill. Deal directly with the insurance company. If his insurance company isn’t cooperative you can let your insurance company deal with them.
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My wife was involve in a car accident. Another car ran a red light and t boned her. There was an officer present and witnessed the guy run the red light and ticketed him for it. We have made our insurance aware of the accident and they have contacted his insurance, and they are saying he has yet to file a claim and they cannot do anything until he does. There was a police report made with all involveds information. What should we do from here? Thank you
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I was t-boned by a police car in October. He sped through a red light without his siren on and trees and houses prevented me seeing him. Both cars were totaled. The insurance company ended up paying me the full value of my 8 month old car, as well as the ER and ambulance bill. Deal directly with the insurance company. If his insurance company isn’t cooperative you can let your insurance company deal with them.
I would call your insurance company and give them the other drivers information. This is why you pay for insurance they should handle this.
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I’m getting sued by someone involved in an accident with my ex wife. My ex took valid plates off my registered car and put them on an unregistered / uninsured vehicle. Located in Ontario, Canada. Here’s the deal. I was legally separated ( since divorced) from ex wife. Part of our unwritten agreement was that she could have my car until the divorce was finalized. Said car was totaled in a previous accident 6 weeks prior to which my insurance is handling. Ex wife was also driving at the time. Car was towed to a mechanic to where the mechanic said it was a write off. We agreed she would arrange to have a scrap yard pick it up and keep whatever few hundred they’d give her. I gave the ownership papers over to her so she could give the slip to the scrap yard and I’d be able to wash my hands of it. Turns out she removed the plates and put them on an unregistered / uninsured vehicle. (This is where I obviously fucked up) She proceeded to have a second accident in this new car. Based on the Statement of Claim She rear ended (completely at fault) somebody else who is claiming the typical maladies and injuries. Concussion, psychological injuries, back problems, neck problems, etc.. In the Statement of claim it also mentions an insurance company that I was with around 2013-2014, not the company that was insuring the 1st totaled car. Nor does the claim mention a make, model, or even description of the vehicle my ex wife was driving at the time of this second accident. So I guess in theory it could somehow possibly be my old totaled car involved in this second accident but this scenario is doubtful. Not to mention, on the day of the 2nd accident I still had insurance on that 1st vehicle and it still had valid plates. There is a possibility she did get it repaired (3k in repairs - car was worth only 1k) instead of scrapping it but I highly doubt it. I’m also assuming she would have gone through the proper accident claim channels as she knew it would have still been insured. (I paid a year in advance and it was still valid for another 45 days or so) From what I’ve been told / been able to gather my insurance company knows nothing about the second accident and there was no report made with them either. I contacted the insurance company (the one from 2013-2014) the plaintiff is also suing and this is the 1st time they are aware of it too. They appear to be more confused than I am at this point. Asking to get the truth from my ex wife is impossible. She suffers from some undiagnosed mental disorder along with a life encompassing drug addiction problem. She doesn’t have a fixed address, constantly changes phone numbers and is utterly untrustworthy. The story of her putting my plates on a different car is from her. I have no idea if it’s true or not. Assuming what she said is true, How do I absolve myself from any responsibility in this lawsuit? Or what should be my next steps? Is it report stolen plates? Lawyers? If so, What specialty should I be looking for? The least I need to involve my ex, the better it is. It sets off a firestorm of 50-100 calls without resolving anything, another barrage of threats and texts and just reliving a ton of garbage I’ve been trying to rid myself of for over 3 years. Any help would be appreciated. And thank you all for taking the time reading through this. Cheers!
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I remember your first post. I'm sorry that your now ex wife is managing to make things more complicated. She stole your plates and committed a criminal act by driving them on an unregistered vehicle and driving with no insurance. A lawyer will set this record strait fairly quickly. It would likely be in your best interest to have a lawyer send a letter to whoever wants to sue you.
Seems like you got some good opinions already and you're on the right track. Just to add, don't panic, but don't take it lightly. You definitely need a lawyer, seek a free consultation (usually not too hard to find), but make finding a lawyer your priority. There are too many moving parts for you to handle this yourself. Secondly, don't contact the plaintiff or his counsel again. You don't want to accidently say something which might put you in a bad position. I'm fairly certain that the lawyer will put forward that you had no knowledge that the license plates were being improperly used, it was without your consent, and they have essentially been lost or stolen. The course of action taken might depend on how much you want to protect your ex-wife, because you can certainly throw her under the bus here, so to speak.
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I’m getting sued by someone involved in an accident with my ex wife. My ex took valid plates off my registered car and put them on an unregistered / uninsured vehicle. Located in Ontario, Canada. Here’s the deal. I was legally separated ( since divorced) from ex wife. Part of our unwritten agreement was that she could have my car until the divorce was finalized. Said car was totaled in a previous accident 6 weeks prior to which my insurance is handling. Ex wife was also driving at the time. Car was towed to a mechanic to where the mechanic said it was a write off. We agreed she would arrange to have a scrap yard pick it up and keep whatever few hundred they’d give her. I gave the ownership papers over to her so she could give the slip to the scrap yard and I’d be able to wash my hands of it. Turns out she removed the plates and put them on an unregistered / uninsured vehicle. (This is where I obviously fucked up) She proceeded to have a second accident in this new car. Based on the Statement of Claim She rear ended (completely at fault) somebody else who is claiming the typical maladies and injuries. Concussion, psychological injuries, back problems, neck problems, etc.. In the Statement of claim it also mentions an insurance company that I was with around 2013-2014, not the company that was insuring the 1st totaled car. Nor does the claim mention a make, model, or even description of the vehicle my ex wife was driving at the time of this second accident. So I guess in theory it could somehow possibly be my old totaled car involved in this second accident but this scenario is doubtful. Not to mention, on the day of the 2nd accident I still had insurance on that 1st vehicle and it still had valid plates. There is a possibility she did get it repaired (3k in repairs - car was worth only 1k) instead of scrapping it but I highly doubt it. I’m also assuming she would have gone through the proper accident claim channels as she knew it would have still been insured. (I paid a year in advance and it was still valid for another 45 days or so) From what I’ve been told / been able to gather my insurance company knows nothing about the second accident and there was no report made with them either. I contacted the insurance company (the one from 2013-2014) the plaintiff is also suing and this is the 1st time they are aware of it too. They appear to be more confused than I am at this point. Asking to get the truth from my ex wife is impossible. She suffers from some undiagnosed mental disorder along with a life encompassing drug addiction problem. She doesn’t have a fixed address, constantly changes phone numbers and is utterly untrustworthy. The story of her putting my plates on a different car is from her. I have no idea if it’s true or not. Assuming what she said is true, How do I absolve myself from any responsibility in this lawsuit? Or what should be my next steps? Is it report stolen plates? Lawyers? If so, What specialty should I be looking for? The least I need to involve my ex, the better it is. It sets off a firestorm of 50-100 calls without resolving anything, another barrage of threats and texts and just reliving a ton of garbage I’ve been trying to rid myself of for over 3 years. Any help would be appreciated. And thank you all for taking the time reading through this. Cheers!
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I remember your first post. I'm sorry that your now ex wife is managing to make things more complicated. She stole your plates and committed a criminal act by driving them on an unregistered vehicle and driving with no insurance. A lawyer will set this record strait fairly quickly. It would likely be in your best interest to have a lawyer send a letter to whoever wants to sue you.
Keep working with the old insurance company, since they're named and you two appear to have no conflicts they'll be at least amicable. If the clerk of court (or whatever Canadian counterpart there is) is nearby, maybe go see them with what you have. They can get you some documents so you can at least start to figure this out. Safest move though really is to just get an attorney in that area and see what they think. A lot of places do free consults, this could be very easy and cheap for them to do for you or we're missing something massive and they'd be able to find it.
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I’m getting sued by someone involved in an accident with my ex wife. My ex took valid plates off my registered car and put them on an unregistered / uninsured vehicle. Located in Ontario, Canada. Here’s the deal. I was legally separated ( since divorced) from ex wife. Part of our unwritten agreement was that she could have my car until the divorce was finalized. Said car was totaled in a previous accident 6 weeks prior to which my insurance is handling. Ex wife was also driving at the time. Car was towed to a mechanic to where the mechanic said it was a write off. We agreed she would arrange to have a scrap yard pick it up and keep whatever few hundred they’d give her. I gave the ownership papers over to her so she could give the slip to the scrap yard and I’d be able to wash my hands of it. Turns out she removed the plates and put them on an unregistered / uninsured vehicle. (This is where I obviously fucked up) She proceeded to have a second accident in this new car. Based on the Statement of Claim She rear ended (completely at fault) somebody else who is claiming the typical maladies and injuries. Concussion, psychological injuries, back problems, neck problems, etc.. In the Statement of claim it also mentions an insurance company that I was with around 2013-2014, not the company that was insuring the 1st totaled car. Nor does the claim mention a make, model, or even description of the vehicle my ex wife was driving at the time of this second accident. So I guess in theory it could somehow possibly be my old totaled car involved in this second accident but this scenario is doubtful. Not to mention, on the day of the 2nd accident I still had insurance on that 1st vehicle and it still had valid plates. There is a possibility she did get it repaired (3k in repairs - car was worth only 1k) instead of scrapping it but I highly doubt it. I’m also assuming she would have gone through the proper accident claim channels as she knew it would have still been insured. (I paid a year in advance and it was still valid for another 45 days or so) From what I’ve been told / been able to gather my insurance company knows nothing about the second accident and there was no report made with them either. I contacted the insurance company (the one from 2013-2014) the plaintiff is also suing and this is the 1st time they are aware of it too. They appear to be more confused than I am at this point. Asking to get the truth from my ex wife is impossible. She suffers from some undiagnosed mental disorder along with a life encompassing drug addiction problem. She doesn’t have a fixed address, constantly changes phone numbers and is utterly untrustworthy. The story of her putting my plates on a different car is from her. I have no idea if it’s true or not. Assuming what she said is true, How do I absolve myself from any responsibility in this lawsuit? Or what should be my next steps? Is it report stolen plates? Lawyers? If so, What specialty should I be looking for? The least I need to involve my ex, the better it is. It sets off a firestorm of 50-100 calls without resolving anything, another barrage of threats and texts and just reliving a ton of garbage I’ve been trying to rid myself of for over 3 years. Any help would be appreciated. And thank you all for taking the time reading through this. Cheers!
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Seems like you got some good opinions already and you're on the right track. Just to add, don't panic, but don't take it lightly. You definitely need a lawyer, seek a free consultation (usually not too hard to find), but make finding a lawyer your priority. There are too many moving parts for you to handle this yourself. Secondly, don't contact the plaintiff or his counsel again. You don't want to accidently say something which might put you in a bad position. I'm fairly certain that the lawyer will put forward that you had no knowledge that the license plates were being improperly used, it was without your consent, and they have essentially been lost or stolen. The course of action taken might depend on how much you want to protect your ex-wife, because you can certainly throw her under the bus here, so to speak.
Keep working with the old insurance company, since they're named and you two appear to have no conflicts they'll be at least amicable. If the clerk of court (or whatever Canadian counterpart there is) is nearby, maybe go see them with what you have. They can get you some documents so you can at least start to figure this out. Safest move though really is to just get an attorney in that area and see what they think. A lot of places do free consults, this could be very easy and cheap for them to do for you or we're missing something massive and they'd be able to find it.
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Involved in a multi car accident with fatalities. I want to help all I can but I also want to protect myself. California Just a warning this is extremely graphic. Over the weekend, my boyfriend, our friend, and I went on a trip to the coast. We were driving back to Sacramento early in the morning when there was an accident. We were driving through a rural area on a highway, going 65, and it was pitch black. From what I could tell in the dark and at my distance, and with the speed in which things were happening, it looked like two cars collided and debris was all over the road. I braked hard and went to avoid the cars but hit some debris so I pulled over. When I got out to check my vehicle, I ran back to the scene to see what I hit and discovered a body in the far right lane. I went on auto pilot and called 911. I did my best to explain where we were and what happened. There was another body on the ground a couple lanes away from the first, and a girl screaming and pinned under a car. I stayed with her while bystanders and my passengers did their best to make the scene safer by redirecting traffic. When police arrived we got together with them and lifted the car off the girl. She had a severe head injury. I stayed with her until the paramedics arrived which was also about when she stopped breathing. I have no idea if she made it, or what her quality of life will be if she did. After the paramedics took over I broke down and walked back to my car. I cried heavily for a couple of minutes. An officer approached me and my passengers and took our statements. I told them I think I hit someone and they tried to convince me I only hit debris. I was not convinced, and leaned under my car with my phone flash light on and found blood and bits of...flesh or brain, smeared all over my car's belly and hanging down from the heat shields and exhaust system. I was angry with the officer for blowing me off and trying to get us to leave. I had a literal crime scene under my f\*cking car. Eventually they decided there were three separate incidents. An officer gave me a card with his badge number and the incident number. He took my insurance information and took pictures of my vehicle, but only took one picture of my vehicle's underside from the front. Remember this was pitch black rural territory with no streetlights. Then he told us that they had everything they needed, that we could go, and to just take my car to a car wash and rinse it off really good, which is absolutely mortifying imo but what else are you supposed to do?? I'm asking if there is anything else I can do. It the daylight you can see better just how much human remains are smeared and hanging off my undercarriage. I doubt the evidence that was collected and I had the thought to have a local CHP officer come out and take additional photos and send them to the officers who responded (we drove straight home from there after that, skipping Sacramento altogether. I don't feel comfortable stating where I live here but I do live in California). I haven't washed my car yet and I would like to do so as soon as possible...I need to get rid of that smell, and I need to have my transmission looked at because it doesn't sound good after what happened. I just don't know if this could be used against me. I feel like not because of the way the officers were treating the situation, trying to convince me I didn't hit a literal human and trying to get me to leave. Barely taking pictures and all. But I don't know. I just don't know. I'm sorry if I'm asking stupid questions I just want to do everything I possibly and reasonably can. I didn't see what I hit, and if I did, avoiding it could have put myself and my passengers at further risk. The incident was spread across the highway taking up all three lanes and even the shoulders on either side. I just didn't want to collide with the vehicles in the wreckage. I also want to find out, if legally possible, if there were survivors. One paramedic said the two bodies were gone, but was vague about the girl. I've spoken with my friends, some of whom are medical professionals, about the injury she sustained and the potential for her survival, and no one seems to think that with a head injury like that than anyone could live and if they could, their quality of life wouldn't be great. An article I found online describing the incident states there was one fatality and two taken to the hospital with major injuries, which obviously conflicts with what the paramedic told me. I also want to know if my impact with that passenger killed him, because the article (if it's accurate, who knows) states that the only person who died was the one my vehicle collided with and if the other two people initially survived their ejection, I have reason to believe the man I hit was also alive. So would it be in my best interest to just rinse off my car and move on with my life, and not try to get more information to the officers? Do they need more information? I feel awful and selfish for asking such a question, but my heart goes out to those people and I want to do everything I can. But I also don't want to have the family members come after me. There's nothing I could have done differently that would have been safer or better. And no amount of evidence or whatever is going to bring that man back to life. Either way, whether he was dead or alive before I hit him, nothing is going to bring him back to life. And I have to live with that. Also, how can I legally and respectfully find out if the other two people survived? Would it be a bad idea to tell the officers to give my phone number to the family members? I don't know what I would tell them...I don't know. I just don't know how to proceed and I don't want to do something to make things worse. Thank you for your advice and I'm sorry if I'm asking stupid selfish questions or being insensitive I don't mean to be I just really need to know. Also, if there is anything I'm maybe not thinking about or considering please share. Thank you.
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IAL, but not in CA and not your lawyer. I suggest contacting your liability insurance prior to doing anything with your car, including washing it, and see if they want photographs with the remains intact. I would not contact the police with regards to this matter as, frankly, it isn't going to help you at all and it isn't going to either help or hurt the investigation into the at-fault driver. Because this matter involves at least one fatality, there is a strong possibility that you will be pulled into litigation of this matter, primarily because there is likely limited insurance coverage to compensate for the damages to all three injured parties by the at-fault driver's insurance. Your insurance company should provide you an attorney to represent you with regards to that matter. If you are contacted by any other insurance company, decline to make a recorded statement. You will likely be required to make one for your own insurance. If you are contacted by the police, I would recommend consulting with a criminal attorney before speaking to them further. As far as finding out what happened to the victims, that may be a can of worms you don't want to open. If this occurred in a rural area, the local newspaper will likely have a follow-up story regarding whether there were any additional fatalities (rural areas tend to have a slow news cycle). However, I would really consider whether or not you want to know the disposition of these people prior to searching. I would also suggest you speak with a mental health provider or counselor about this. You were involved in a very traumatic incident and I can only imagine saw some pretty terrible things. From the way you write, it appears you are still trying to process this incident and you may very much benefit from professional help (I suggest this to any of my clients who have witnessed a traumatic accident scene).
I'm going to assume they asked you about your side of the story and recorded it in their report some way or another. The key thing you need to remember here is you came on the scene after the fact and did everything in your power to avoid hitting something. On a dark road, with no evidence of something, its very easy to be right on top of the situation before you can react. Their focus is going to be on the two cars which were stationary and what lead to that. They aren't going to look at you as a responsible party. They will contact you if they need more information. Its unfortunate ypu have to experience this. No one should live with that in their mind BUT its also important for you to remember you did not cause the situation that lead to it.
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My son's apartment community locked out all the tenants after two months of trying to change everyones' leases or push them out. Anyone know of resources in Texas they can get to over the weekend? This is in Texas (for applicable laws / rights) About two months ago, an asset management company bought the apartment community my son (26) lives in. In that time, they've: * Dropped off packages making massive changes to rental agreement with lots of added fees (not legal mid-lease) including a trash valet service ($50 a month), a pet deposit, pet rent, and a "common area cleaning fee" for pet waste even though everyone picks up after their animals ($100 per pet), tried to charge a $1200 fee to each resident in a smoking "building" (not apartment) even if no one in the apartment smokes, etc * It's a gated community, they left the gates open for two months. This led to vandalism and theft (at least a half dozen people have had their catalytic converters stolen, plus cars being broken into). * Painted everything with cheap paint that has started peeling a month later * Done a ton of unneeded temporary repairs that look terrible * Tried to tell everyone they could only pay rent with money orders from a certain company. That company's nearest branch is a 45 minute drive away by car, hours away by bus (they shut down the electronic payment portal). * Quit telling everyone what they owed for utilities then started posting eviction notices for people that didn't pay. * Notified everyone there was a 40% rent increase, effective immediately (illegal) * Required everyone to register their cars under threat of tow, with 48 hours notice (the lease requires 10 days notice). They also said effective immediately, resident parking stickers and the old car registration list are no longer valid. Tonight is supposed to be when the towing starts. Today, at close of business, they closed the gates and turned off everyone's access cards unless they had signed the documents agreeing to all the changes. This effectively is locking everyone out of their homes. One of the residents parked their truck on the exit gate sensor so it would stay open, but otherwise, they would have all been locked out. They've also formed a watch group for tonight so they can warn everyone if a tow truck (or multiple) show up. This stuff can't be legal. Does anyone know of any resources that can help a group of renters on an emergency basis? They need to talk to someone this weekend if at all possible. They're talking about suing the asset management as a community, but I'm not looking for legal advice to pass on, just resources. As an added note, some of the renters believe the asset company may have hired the vandals because it looks like specific people are being targeted, namely the ones that have been giving the most vocal pushback. They don't know that for certain, and can't prove it, but they have filed police reports.
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It's obvious the company is taking a calculated risk that they won't have a tenant with a spine, careful document collection, and a level head. Writ of reentry is what gets around a self-help eviction, not sure if a judge will order it over a weekend. Lawyer up, if there's a group of tenants willing to go in on it, a lawyer would be more likely to take the case.
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My son's apartment community locked out all the tenants after two months of trying to change everyones' leases or push them out. Anyone know of resources in Texas they can get to over the weekend? This is in Texas (for applicable laws / rights) About two months ago, an asset management company bought the apartment community my son (26) lives in. In that time, they've: * Dropped off packages making massive changes to rental agreement with lots of added fees (not legal mid-lease) including a trash valet service ($50 a month), a pet deposit, pet rent, and a "common area cleaning fee" for pet waste even though everyone picks up after their animals ($100 per pet), tried to charge a $1200 fee to each resident in a smoking "building" (not apartment) even if no one in the apartment smokes, etc * It's a gated community, they left the gates open for two months. This led to vandalism and theft (at least a half dozen people have had their catalytic converters stolen, plus cars being broken into). * Painted everything with cheap paint that has started peeling a month later * Done a ton of unneeded temporary repairs that look terrible * Tried to tell everyone they could only pay rent with money orders from a certain company. That company's nearest branch is a 45 minute drive away by car, hours away by bus (they shut down the electronic payment portal). * Quit telling everyone what they owed for utilities then started posting eviction notices for people that didn't pay. * Notified everyone there was a 40% rent increase, effective immediately (illegal) * Required everyone to register their cars under threat of tow, with 48 hours notice (the lease requires 10 days notice). They also said effective immediately, resident parking stickers and the old car registration list are no longer valid. Tonight is supposed to be when the towing starts. Today, at close of business, they closed the gates and turned off everyone's access cards unless they had signed the documents agreeing to all the changes. This effectively is locking everyone out of their homes. One of the residents parked their truck on the exit gate sensor so it would stay open, but otherwise, they would have all been locked out. They've also formed a watch group for tonight so they can warn everyone if a tow truck (or multiple) show up. This stuff can't be legal. Does anyone know of any resources that can help a group of renters on an emergency basis? They need to talk to someone this weekend if at all possible. They're talking about suing the asset management as a community, but I'm not looking for legal advice to pass on, just resources. As an added note, some of the renters believe the asset company may have hired the vandals because it looks like specific people are being targeted, namely the ones that have been giving the most vocal pushback. They don't know that for certain, and can't prove it, but they have filed police reports.
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If it's one of the bigger cities, there are tenant's unions and councils that may have some volunteer help over the weekend.
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My son's apartment community locked out all the tenants after two months of trying to change everyones' leases or push them out. Anyone know of resources in Texas they can get to over the weekend? This is in Texas (for applicable laws / rights) About two months ago, an asset management company bought the apartment community my son (26) lives in. In that time, they've: * Dropped off packages making massive changes to rental agreement with lots of added fees (not legal mid-lease) including a trash valet service ($50 a month), a pet deposit, pet rent, and a "common area cleaning fee" for pet waste even though everyone picks up after their animals ($100 per pet), tried to charge a $1200 fee to each resident in a smoking "building" (not apartment) even if no one in the apartment smokes, etc * It's a gated community, they left the gates open for two months. This led to vandalism and theft (at least a half dozen people have had their catalytic converters stolen, plus cars being broken into). * Painted everything with cheap paint that has started peeling a month later * Done a ton of unneeded temporary repairs that look terrible * Tried to tell everyone they could only pay rent with money orders from a certain company. That company's nearest branch is a 45 minute drive away by car, hours away by bus (they shut down the electronic payment portal). * Quit telling everyone what they owed for utilities then started posting eviction notices for people that didn't pay. * Notified everyone there was a 40% rent increase, effective immediately (illegal) * Required everyone to register their cars under threat of tow, with 48 hours notice (the lease requires 10 days notice). They also said effective immediately, resident parking stickers and the old car registration list are no longer valid. Tonight is supposed to be when the towing starts. Today, at close of business, they closed the gates and turned off everyone's access cards unless they had signed the documents agreeing to all the changes. This effectively is locking everyone out of their homes. One of the residents parked their truck on the exit gate sensor so it would stay open, but otherwise, they would have all been locked out. They've also formed a watch group for tonight so they can warn everyone if a tow truck (or multiple) show up. This stuff can't be legal. Does anyone know of any resources that can help a group of renters on an emergency basis? They need to talk to someone this weekend if at all possible. They're talking about suing the asset management as a community, but I'm not looking for legal advice to pass on, just resources. As an added note, some of the renters believe the asset company may have hired the vandals because it looks like specific people are being targeted, namely the ones that have been giving the most vocal pushback. They don't know that for certain, and can't prove it, but they have filed police reports.
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Not a lawyer just a 1L law student so not legal advice I live and go to school in Mass so I am not sure about Texas law but from what I’ve learned so far and a quick search on Texas law self-help evictions are illegal in Texas they cannot lock out tenants without going through an eviction process.. non of what you describe is legal and it’s shocking there even trying.. even if people sign I would imagine they could claim it was under duress or they had unequal bargaining power (my terms maybe off a bit but it’s something like that)… first I would call the cops they may not do anything (I don’t think they really get involved with tenant/landlord disputes) but it’s worth a try and explain that the landlord illegally locked them out of their homes at the very least it will be documented for a later suit.. then get a lawyer immediately to destroy these awful humans
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There is this 19 year old kid who keeps wiring me money to my bank account so I change my testimony and I keep wiring it back, but it never stops she keeps sending it back again, What can be done here to make her stop without getting her or myself in trouble? [West Lake Hills, TX] Long story short and without getting into too much detail. I’m a witness in a case and the hearing is a month away. One of the kids involved in this case wants me to change my testimony. I’m not involved in any way with the case other than I witnessed something and I got served to go to court. This girl I know came to my house told me she wants me to change my testimony and wanted to give me this stuffed envelope filled with money in return. I refused and she kept pushing it until she eventually left. Now she keeps sending money to my bank account which I have no idea how she got my account number to begin with, and I can't believe she’s dumb enough to send it through the bank which leaves trail back to her. I told her over and over that I won't accept her money but she keeps sending them anyway. It’s happened three times so far. My concern here are as follows: 1) I don’t know what to do to stop her from sending me the money. She doesn’t stop sending it back and I don’t want a single cent of her money laying in my account 2) I’m not sure if not telling the judge about that would be illegal (although I would prefer not to say anything if all this would go away and I make her stop but I don’t want to get involved in any more shit tbh) and 3) I’m worried about my bank account as well. Having couple thousands of dollars sent to me then sent back three times seems suspicious as hell!!
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Somebody with VERY POOR JUDGEMENT has your bank data. Time to get a new account. In addition to other steps as advised about reporting this.
Not legal advice, but maybe you should also aggressively check your credit reports and freeze your credit? She seems to have a lot of info about you and her family seems inclined to lash out.
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There is this 19 year old kid who keeps wiring me money to my bank account so I change my testimony and I keep wiring it back, but it never stops she keeps sending it back again, What can be done here to make her stop without getting her or myself in trouble? [West Lake Hills, TX] Long story short and without getting into too much detail. I’m a witness in a case and the hearing is a month away. One of the kids involved in this case wants me to change my testimony. I’m not involved in any way with the case other than I witnessed something and I got served to go to court. This girl I know came to my house told me she wants me to change my testimony and wanted to give me this stuffed envelope filled with money in return. I refused and she kept pushing it until she eventually left. Now she keeps sending money to my bank account which I have no idea how she got my account number to begin with, and I can't believe she’s dumb enough to send it through the bank which leaves trail back to her. I told her over and over that I won't accept her money but she keeps sending them anyway. It’s happened three times so far. My concern here are as follows: 1) I don’t know what to do to stop her from sending me the money. She doesn’t stop sending it back and I don’t want a single cent of her money laying in my account 2) I’m not sure if not telling the judge about that would be illegal (although I would prefer not to say anything if all this would go away and I make her stop but I don’t want to get involved in any more shit tbh) and 3) I’m worried about my bank account as well. Having couple thousands of dollars sent to me then sent back three times seems suspicious as hell!!
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Go talk to your bank. UFCU (if you're not using them, they're frickin' amazing) will bend over backwards for you in situations like this, especially the one in the shopping center at Las Cimas. In the meantime, head down to the prosecutor's office with a printout of your bank statement or incoming wire transfers for their records (you can redact non-relevant transactions from it for privacy). Make it VERY clear that this kid is trying to bribe you. If the girl ever shows up again, very conspicuously take out your phone, activate your voice recorder app, and make it eminently clear you're recording - or just call the prosecutor right then and there while she's watching and let them know that she's there trying to influence your testimony. The Travis County DA doesn't take too kindly to that.
Somebody with VERY POOR JUDGEMENT has your bank data. Time to get a new account. In addition to other steps as advised about reporting this.
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There is this 19 year old kid who keeps wiring me money to my bank account so I change my testimony and I keep wiring it back, but it never stops she keeps sending it back again, What can be done here to make her stop without getting her or myself in trouble? [West Lake Hills, TX] Long story short and without getting into too much detail. I’m a witness in a case and the hearing is a month away. One of the kids involved in this case wants me to change my testimony. I’m not involved in any way with the case other than I witnessed something and I got served to go to court. This girl I know came to my house told me she wants me to change my testimony and wanted to give me this stuffed envelope filled with money in return. I refused and she kept pushing it until she eventually left. Now she keeps sending money to my bank account which I have no idea how she got my account number to begin with, and I can't believe she’s dumb enough to send it through the bank which leaves trail back to her. I told her over and over that I won't accept her money but she keeps sending them anyway. It’s happened three times so far. My concern here are as follows: 1) I don’t know what to do to stop her from sending me the money. She doesn’t stop sending it back and I don’t want a single cent of her money laying in my account 2) I’m not sure if not telling the judge about that would be illegal (although I would prefer not to say anything if all this would go away and I make her stop but I don’t want to get involved in any more shit tbh) and 3) I’m worried about my bank account as well. Having couple thousands of dollars sent to me then sent back three times seems suspicious as hell!!
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Somebody with VERY POOR JUDGEMENT has your bank data. Time to get a new account. In addition to other steps as advised about reporting this.
Call and report her today. The best way to protect yourself is to make sure you don't look suspicious. Then call your bank and block transfers from her account. Tell them exactly why.
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There is this 19 year old kid who keeps wiring me money to my bank account so I change my testimony and I keep wiring it back, but it never stops she keeps sending it back again, What can be done here to make her stop without getting her or myself in trouble? [West Lake Hills, TX] Long story short and without getting into too much detail. I’m a witness in a case and the hearing is a month away. One of the kids involved in this case wants me to change my testimony. I’m not involved in any way with the case other than I witnessed something and I got served to go to court. This girl I know came to my house told me she wants me to change my testimony and wanted to give me this stuffed envelope filled with money in return. I refused and she kept pushing it until she eventually left. Now she keeps sending money to my bank account which I have no idea how she got my account number to begin with, and I can't believe she’s dumb enough to send it through the bank which leaves trail back to her. I told her over and over that I won't accept her money but she keeps sending them anyway. It’s happened three times so far. My concern here are as follows: 1) I don’t know what to do to stop her from sending me the money. She doesn’t stop sending it back and I don’t want a single cent of her money laying in my account 2) I’m not sure if not telling the judge about that would be illegal (although I would prefer not to say anything if all this would go away and I make her stop but I don’t want to get involved in any more shit tbh) and 3) I’m worried about my bank account as well. Having couple thousands of dollars sent to me then sent back three times seems suspicious as hell!!
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Somebody with VERY POOR JUDGEMENT has your bank data. Time to get a new account. In addition to other steps as advised about reporting this.
You should see about changing your bank account number immediately.
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There is this 19 year old kid who keeps wiring me money to my bank account so I change my testimony and I keep wiring it back, but it never stops she keeps sending it back again, What can be done here to make her stop without getting her or myself in trouble? [West Lake Hills, TX] Long story short and without getting into too much detail. I’m a witness in a case and the hearing is a month away. One of the kids involved in this case wants me to change my testimony. I’m not involved in any way with the case other than I witnessed something and I got served to go to court. This girl I know came to my house told me she wants me to change my testimony and wanted to give me this stuffed envelope filled with money in return. I refused and she kept pushing it until she eventually left. Now she keeps sending money to my bank account which I have no idea how she got my account number to begin with, and I can't believe she’s dumb enough to send it through the bank which leaves trail back to her. I told her over and over that I won't accept her money but she keeps sending them anyway. It’s happened three times so far. My concern here are as follows: 1) I don’t know what to do to stop her from sending me the money. She doesn’t stop sending it back and I don’t want a single cent of her money laying in my account 2) I’m not sure if not telling the judge about that would be illegal (although I would prefer not to say anything if all this would go away and I make her stop but I don’t want to get involved in any more shit tbh) and 3) I’m worried about my bank account as well. Having couple thousands of dollars sent to me then sent back three times seems suspicious as hell!!
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Somebody with VERY POOR JUDGEMENT has your bank data. Time to get a new account. In addition to other steps as advised about reporting this.
Call the police and report the crime. What she is doing is a crime.
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There is this 19 year old kid who keeps wiring me money to my bank account so I change my testimony and I keep wiring it back, but it never stops she keeps sending it back again, What can be done here to make her stop without getting her or myself in trouble? [West Lake Hills, TX] Long story short and without getting into too much detail. I’m a witness in a case and the hearing is a month away. One of the kids involved in this case wants me to change my testimony. I’m not involved in any way with the case other than I witnessed something and I got served to go to court. This girl I know came to my house told me she wants me to change my testimony and wanted to give me this stuffed envelope filled with money in return. I refused and she kept pushing it until she eventually left. Now she keeps sending money to my bank account which I have no idea how she got my account number to begin with, and I can't believe she’s dumb enough to send it through the bank which leaves trail back to her. I told her over and over that I won't accept her money but she keeps sending them anyway. It’s happened three times so far. My concern here are as follows: 1) I don’t know what to do to stop her from sending me the money. She doesn’t stop sending it back and I don’t want a single cent of her money laying in my account 2) I’m not sure if not telling the judge about that would be illegal (although I would prefer not to say anything if all this would go away and I make her stop but I don’t want to get involved in any more shit tbh) and 3) I’m worried about my bank account as well. Having couple thousands of dollars sent to me then sent back three times seems suspicious as hell!!
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Call the police and report the crime. What she is doing is a crime.
Not legal advice, but maybe you should also aggressively check your credit reports and freeze your credit? She seems to have a lot of info about you and her family seems inclined to lash out.
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There is this 19 year old kid who keeps wiring me money to my bank account so I change my testimony and I keep wiring it back, but it never stops she keeps sending it back again, What can be done here to make her stop without getting her or myself in trouble? [West Lake Hills, TX] Long story short and without getting into too much detail. I’m a witness in a case and the hearing is a month away. One of the kids involved in this case wants me to change my testimony. I’m not involved in any way with the case other than I witnessed something and I got served to go to court. This girl I know came to my house told me she wants me to change my testimony and wanted to give me this stuffed envelope filled with money in return. I refused and she kept pushing it until she eventually left. Now she keeps sending money to my bank account which I have no idea how she got my account number to begin with, and I can't believe she’s dumb enough to send it through the bank which leaves trail back to her. I told her over and over that I won't accept her money but she keeps sending them anyway. It’s happened three times so far. My concern here are as follows: 1) I don’t know what to do to stop her from sending me the money. She doesn’t stop sending it back and I don’t want a single cent of her money laying in my account 2) I’m not sure if not telling the judge about that would be illegal (although I would prefer not to say anything if all this would go away and I make her stop but I don’t want to get involved in any more shit tbh) and 3) I’m worried about my bank account as well. Having couple thousands of dollars sent to me then sent back three times seems suspicious as hell!!
dha7r6b
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Call the police and report the crime. What she is doing is a crime.
Go talk to your bank. UFCU (if you're not using them, they're frickin' amazing) will bend over backwards for you in situations like this, especially the one in the shopping center at Las Cimas. In the meantime, head down to the prosecutor's office with a printout of your bank statement or incoming wire transfers for their records (you can redact non-relevant transactions from it for privacy). Make it VERY clear that this kid is trying to bribe you. If the girl ever shows up again, very conspicuously take out your phone, activate your voice recorder app, and make it eminently clear you're recording - or just call the prosecutor right then and there while she's watching and let them know that she's there trying to influence your testimony. The Travis County DA doesn't take too kindly to that.
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There is this 19 year old kid who keeps wiring me money to my bank account so I change my testimony and I keep wiring it back, but it never stops she keeps sending it back again, What can be done here to make her stop without getting her or myself in trouble? [West Lake Hills, TX] Long story short and without getting into too much detail. I’m a witness in a case and the hearing is a month away. One of the kids involved in this case wants me to change my testimony. I’m not involved in any way with the case other than I witnessed something and I got served to go to court. This girl I know came to my house told me she wants me to change my testimony and wanted to give me this stuffed envelope filled with money in return. I refused and she kept pushing it until she eventually left. Now she keeps sending money to my bank account which I have no idea how she got my account number to begin with, and I can't believe she’s dumb enough to send it through the bank which leaves trail back to her. I told her over and over that I won't accept her money but she keeps sending them anyway. It’s happened three times so far. My concern here are as follows: 1) I don’t know what to do to stop her from sending me the money. She doesn’t stop sending it back and I don’t want a single cent of her money laying in my account 2) I’m not sure if not telling the judge about that would be illegal (although I would prefer not to say anything if all this would go away and I make her stop but I don’t want to get involved in any more shit tbh) and 3) I’m worried about my bank account as well. Having couple thousands of dollars sent to me then sent back three times seems suspicious as hell!!
dha9vg7
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You should see about changing your bank account number immediately.
Call and report her today. The best way to protect yourself is to make sure you don't look suspicious. Then call your bank and block transfers from her account. Tell them exactly why.
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There is this 19 year old kid who keeps wiring me money to my bank account so I change my testimony and I keep wiring it back, but it never stops she keeps sending it back again, What can be done here to make her stop without getting her or myself in trouble? [West Lake Hills, TX] Long story short and without getting into too much detail. I’m a witness in a case and the hearing is a month away. One of the kids involved in this case wants me to change my testimony. I’m not involved in any way with the case other than I witnessed something and I got served to go to court. This girl I know came to my house told me she wants me to change my testimony and wanted to give me this stuffed envelope filled with money in return. I refused and she kept pushing it until she eventually left. Now she keeps sending money to my bank account which I have no idea how she got my account number to begin with, and I can't believe she’s dumb enough to send it through the bank which leaves trail back to her. I told her over and over that I won't accept her money but she keeps sending them anyway. It’s happened three times so far. My concern here are as follows: 1) I don’t know what to do to stop her from sending me the money. She doesn’t stop sending it back and I don’t want a single cent of her money laying in my account 2) I’m not sure if not telling the judge about that would be illegal (although I would prefer not to say anything if all this would go away and I make her stop but I don’t want to get involved in any more shit tbh) and 3) I’m worried about my bank account as well. Having couple thousands of dollars sent to me then sent back three times seems suspicious as hell!!
dhabln9
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Call and report her today. The best way to protect yourself is to make sure you don't look suspicious. Then call your bank and block transfers from her account. Tell them exactly why.
Call the police and report the crime. What she is doing is a crime.
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There is this 19 year old kid who keeps wiring me money to my bank account so I change my testimony and I keep wiring it back, but it never stops she keeps sending it back again, What can be done here to make her stop without getting her or myself in trouble? [West Lake Hills, TX] Long story short and without getting into too much detail. I’m a witness in a case and the hearing is a month away. One of the kids involved in this case wants me to change my testimony. I’m not involved in any way with the case other than I witnessed something and I got served to go to court. This girl I know came to my house told me she wants me to change my testimony and wanted to give me this stuffed envelope filled with money in return. I refused and she kept pushing it until she eventually left. Now she keeps sending money to my bank account which I have no idea how she got my account number to begin with, and I can't believe she’s dumb enough to send it through the bank which leaves trail back to her. I told her over and over that I won't accept her money but she keeps sending them anyway. It’s happened three times so far. My concern here are as follows: 1) I don’t know what to do to stop her from sending me the money. She doesn’t stop sending it back and I don’t want a single cent of her money laying in my account 2) I’m not sure if not telling the judge about that would be illegal (although I would prefer not to say anything if all this would go away and I make her stop but I don’t want to get involved in any more shit tbh) and 3) I’m worried about my bank account as well. Having couple thousands of dollars sent to me then sent back three times seems suspicious as hell!!
dha7r6b
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Call the police and report the crime. What she is doing is a crime.
You should see about changing your bank account number immediately.
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There is this 19 year old kid who keeps wiring me money to my bank account so I change my testimony and I keep wiring it back, but it never stops she keeps sending it back again, What can be done here to make her stop without getting her or myself in trouble? [West Lake Hills, TX] Long story short and without getting into too much detail. I’m a witness in a case and the hearing is a month away. One of the kids involved in this case wants me to change my testimony. I’m not involved in any way with the case other than I witnessed something and I got served to go to court. This girl I know came to my house told me she wants me to change my testimony and wanted to give me this stuffed envelope filled with money in return. I refused and she kept pushing it until she eventually left. Now she keeps sending money to my bank account which I have no idea how she got my account number to begin with, and I can't believe she’s dumb enough to send it through the bank which leaves trail back to her. I told her over and over that I won't accept her money but she keeps sending them anyway. It’s happened three times so far. My concern here are as follows: 1) I don’t know what to do to stop her from sending me the money. She doesn’t stop sending it back and I don’t want a single cent of her money laying in my account 2) I’m not sure if not telling the judge about that would be illegal (although I would prefer not to say anything if all this would go away and I make her stop but I don’t want to get involved in any more shit tbh) and 3) I’m worried about my bank account as well. Having couple thousands of dollars sent to me then sent back three times seems suspicious as hell!!
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Ahh west lake. You rich people you. Anyways, definitely record these events and call up the prosecutor. Like immediately. Explain who's sending the money, and why. Tell them about them coming to your door and somehow getting your routing information. Witness tampering is a felony crime, she's up shit creek and throwing away her paddle. It seems unlikely, but could she be also trying to bribe anyone else as well?
Someone at that bank needs to get arrested for handing out your account number....
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There is this 19 year old kid who keeps wiring me money to my bank account so I change my testimony and I keep wiring it back, but it never stops she keeps sending it back again, What can be done here to make her stop without getting her or myself in trouble? [West Lake Hills, TX] Long story short and without getting into too much detail. I’m a witness in a case and the hearing is a month away. One of the kids involved in this case wants me to change my testimony. I’m not involved in any way with the case other than I witnessed something and I got served to go to court. This girl I know came to my house told me she wants me to change my testimony and wanted to give me this stuffed envelope filled with money in return. I refused and she kept pushing it until she eventually left. Now she keeps sending money to my bank account which I have no idea how she got my account number to begin with, and I can't believe she’s dumb enough to send it through the bank which leaves trail back to her. I told her over and over that I won't accept her money but she keeps sending them anyway. It’s happened three times so far. My concern here are as follows: 1) I don’t know what to do to stop her from sending me the money. She doesn’t stop sending it back and I don’t want a single cent of her money laying in my account 2) I’m not sure if not telling the judge about that would be illegal (although I would prefer not to say anything if all this would go away and I make her stop but I don’t want to get involved in any more shit tbh) and 3) I’m worried about my bank account as well. Having couple thousands of dollars sent to me then sent back three times seems suspicious as hell!!
dha7r6b
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Call the police and report the crime. What she is doing is a crime.
Ahh west lake. You rich people you. Anyways, definitely record these events and call up the prosecutor. Like immediately. Explain who's sending the money, and why. Tell them about them coming to your door and somehow getting your routing information. Witness tampering is a felony crime, she's up shit creek and throwing away her paddle. It seems unlikely, but could she be also trying to bribe anyone else as well?
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There is this 19 year old kid who keeps wiring me money to my bank account so I change my testimony and I keep wiring it back, but it never stops she keeps sending it back again, What can be done here to make her stop without getting her or myself in trouble? [West Lake Hills, TX] Long story short and without getting into too much detail. I’m a witness in a case and the hearing is a month away. One of the kids involved in this case wants me to change my testimony. I’m not involved in any way with the case other than I witnessed something and I got served to go to court. This girl I know came to my house told me she wants me to change my testimony and wanted to give me this stuffed envelope filled with money in return. I refused and she kept pushing it until she eventually left. Now she keeps sending money to my bank account which I have no idea how she got my account number to begin with, and I can't believe she’s dumb enough to send it through the bank which leaves trail back to her. I told her over and over that I won't accept her money but she keeps sending them anyway. It’s happened three times so far. My concern here are as follows: 1) I don’t know what to do to stop her from sending me the money. She doesn’t stop sending it back and I don’t want a single cent of her money laying in my account 2) I’m not sure if not telling the judge about that would be illegal (although I would prefer not to say anything if all this would go away and I make her stop but I don’t want to get involved in any more shit tbh) and 3) I’m worried about my bank account as well. Having couple thousands of dollars sent to me then sent back three times seems suspicious as hell!!
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Consider also that she might succeed in getting others to change testimony and create an unjust outcome even if you don't change your testimony. It's a sure bet that once you report her, she will be found to have tried this on other witnesses.
Ahh west lake. You rich people you. Anyways, definitely record these events and call up the prosecutor. Like immediately. Explain who's sending the money, and why. Tell them about them coming to your door and somehow getting your routing information. Witness tampering is a felony crime, she's up shit creek and throwing away her paddle. It seems unlikely, but could she be also trying to bribe anyone else as well?
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There is this 19 year old kid who keeps wiring me money to my bank account so I change my testimony and I keep wiring it back, but it never stops she keeps sending it back again, What can be done here to make her stop without getting her or myself in trouble? [West Lake Hills, TX] Long story short and without getting into too much detail. I’m a witness in a case and the hearing is a month away. One of the kids involved in this case wants me to change my testimony. I’m not involved in any way with the case other than I witnessed something and I got served to go to court. This girl I know came to my house told me she wants me to change my testimony and wanted to give me this stuffed envelope filled with money in return. I refused and she kept pushing it until she eventually left. Now she keeps sending money to my bank account which I have no idea how she got my account number to begin with, and I can't believe she’s dumb enough to send it through the bank which leaves trail back to her. I told her over and over that I won't accept her money but she keeps sending them anyway. It’s happened three times so far. My concern here are as follows: 1) I don’t know what to do to stop her from sending me the money. She doesn’t stop sending it back and I don’t want a single cent of her money laying in my account 2) I’m not sure if not telling the judge about that would be illegal (although I would prefer not to say anything if all this would go away and I make her stop but I don’t want to get involved in any more shit tbh) and 3) I’m worried about my bank account as well. Having couple thousands of dollars sent to me then sent back three times seems suspicious as hell!!
dha7r6b
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Call the police and report the crime. What she is doing is a crime.
Someone at that bank needs to get arrested for handing out your account number....
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[NY] Groom is dying, time is of the essence. Getting married via Skype "in" another state? A friend of mine knows a couple in NYC that wants to get married. COVID-19 has obviously put any plans on hold, especially since they still need to get the license. The problem is the groom is in hospice, and has maybe a few weeks left to live. He desperately wants to marry his fiancee before he passes. They've heard about some states performing weddings via Skype, and some (like TN, and I think VT) let you apply for a license online. Would they be able to apply for a TN (or other state) marriage license, and then be married by a TN (or whatever) official via Skype? Is there any other recourse they might have to get married in NYC during all of this? Would it be possible to do an otherwise legal ceremony sans license, and have it validated after the fact? (I know that's been done in the past, under special circumstances.) Thanks, guys.
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The term you are looking for is a proxy marriage. Four states allow them, CA CO TX, and Montana allows double proxy marriages. But only for military members. You would need to appear in person to be married
It seems the hardest part would be appearing in person together to apply for the marriage license. If he can do that, it would just be a matter of finding an officiant willing to go to hospice and provide the ceremony.
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[NY] Groom is dying, time is of the essence. Getting married via Skype "in" another state? A friend of mine knows a couple in NYC that wants to get married. COVID-19 has obviously put any plans on hold, especially since they still need to get the license. The problem is the groom is in hospice, and has maybe a few weeks left to live. He desperately wants to marry his fiancee before he passes. They've heard about some states performing weddings via Skype, and some (like TN, and I think VT) let you apply for a license online. Would they be able to apply for a TN (or other state) marriage license, and then be married by a TN (or whatever) official via Skype? Is there any other recourse they might have to get married in NYC during all of this? Would it be possible to do an otherwise legal ceremony sans license, and have it validated after the fact? (I know that's been done in the past, under special circumstances.) Thanks, guys.
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The term you are looking for is a proxy marriage. Four states allow them, CA CO TX, and Montana allows double proxy marriages. But only for military members. You would need to appear in person to be married
Not a lawyer but unfortunately I believe you cannot get married via Skype. Marriage laws require the officiant to be physically present and to sign the marriage papers immediately after the ceremony. More info here
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[NY] Groom is dying, time is of the essence. Getting married via Skype "in" another state? A friend of mine knows a couple in NYC that wants to get married. COVID-19 has obviously put any plans on hold, especially since they still need to get the license. The problem is the groom is in hospice, and has maybe a few weeks left to live. He desperately wants to marry his fiancee before he passes. They've heard about some states performing weddings via Skype, and some (like TN, and I think VT) let you apply for a license online. Would they be able to apply for a TN (or other state) marriage license, and then be married by a TN (or whatever) official via Skype? Is there any other recourse they might have to get married in NYC during all of this? Would it be possible to do an otherwise legal ceremony sans license, and have it validated after the fact? (I know that's been done in the past, under special circumstances.) Thanks, guys.
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\> He desperately wants to marry his fiancee before he passes. It would be useful to know why. Just for the sake of being married? In which case maybe a religious or other private ceremony? Or is there some legal angle, like allowing his fiancee to receiving certain benefits? If so, that's going to be harder to accomplish.
It seems the hardest part would be appearing in person together to apply for the marriage license. If he can do that, it would just be a matter of finding an officiant willing to go to hospice and provide the ceremony.
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[NY] Groom is dying, time is of the essence. Getting married via Skype "in" another state? A friend of mine knows a couple in NYC that wants to get married. COVID-19 has obviously put any plans on hold, especially since they still need to get the license. The problem is the groom is in hospice, and has maybe a few weeks left to live. He desperately wants to marry his fiancee before he passes. They've heard about some states performing weddings via Skype, and some (like TN, and I think VT) let you apply for a license online. Would they be able to apply for a TN (or other state) marriage license, and then be married by a TN (or whatever) official via Skype? Is there any other recourse they might have to get married in NYC during all of this? Would it be possible to do an otherwise legal ceremony sans license, and have it validated after the fact? (I know that's been done in the past, under special circumstances.) Thanks, guys.
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Not a lawyer but unfortunately I believe you cannot get married via Skype. Marriage laws require the officiant to be physically present and to sign the marriage papers immediately after the ceremony. More info here
\> He desperately wants to marry his fiancee before he passes. It would be useful to know why. Just for the sake of being married? In which case maybe a religious or other private ceremony? Or is there some legal angle, like allowing his fiancee to receiving certain benefits? If so, that's going to be harder to accomplish.
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[NY] Groom is dying, time is of the essence. Getting married via Skype "in" another state? A friend of mine knows a couple in NYC that wants to get married. COVID-19 has obviously put any plans on hold, especially since they still need to get the license. The problem is the groom is in hospice, and has maybe a few weeks left to live. He desperately wants to marry his fiancee before he passes. They've heard about some states performing weddings via Skype, and some (like TN, and I think VT) let you apply for a license online. Would they be able to apply for a TN (or other state) marriage license, and then be married by a TN (or whatever) official via Skype? Is there any other recourse they might have to get married in NYC during all of this? Would it be possible to do an otherwise legal ceremony sans license, and have it validated after the fact? (I know that's been done in the past, under special circumstances.) Thanks, guys.
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Not a lawyer but unfortunately I believe you cannot get married via Skype. Marriage laws require the officiant to be physically present and to sign the marriage papers immediately after the ceremony. More info here
It seems the hardest part would be appearing in person together to apply for the marriage license. If he can do that, it would just be a matter of finding an officiant willing to go to hospice and provide the ceremony.
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[NY] Groom is dying, time is of the essence. Getting married via Skype "in" another state? A friend of mine knows a couple in NYC that wants to get married. COVID-19 has obviously put any plans on hold, especially since they still need to get the license. The problem is the groom is in hospice, and has maybe a few weeks left to live. He desperately wants to marry his fiancee before he passes. They've heard about some states performing weddings via Skype, and some (like TN, and I think VT) let you apply for a license online. Would they be able to apply for a TN (or other state) marriage license, and then be married by a TN (or whatever) official via Skype? Is there any other recourse they might have to get married in NYC during all of this? Would it be possible to do an otherwise legal ceremony sans license, and have it validated after the fact? (I know that's been done in the past, under special circumstances.) Thanks, guys.
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Not a lawyer FYI if they get married the spouse will be liable for all medical expenses at the passing of him. My cousin and his partner chose to have a spiritual wedding instead because his partner was in hospice and didn’t want my cousin liable for the mountain of additional expenses. His partner still put him as the beneficiary in the will but he wasn’t charged the monstrous insurance fees etc.
While the STATE may not recognize a Skype marriage, there is nothing stopping friends, family and God from recognizing the Union. The rest can be papered up to mimic a spouses legal rights and responsibilities. Will, power of attorney, healthcare directive, beneficiary on life insurance and retirement accounts....
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[NY] Groom is dying, time is of the essence. Getting married via Skype "in" another state? A friend of mine knows a couple in NYC that wants to get married. COVID-19 has obviously put any plans on hold, especially since they still need to get the license. The problem is the groom is in hospice, and has maybe a few weeks left to live. He desperately wants to marry his fiancee before he passes. They've heard about some states performing weddings via Skype, and some (like TN, and I think VT) let you apply for a license online. Would they be able to apply for a TN (or other state) marriage license, and then be married by a TN (or whatever) official via Skype? Is there any other recourse they might have to get married in NYC during all of this? Would it be possible to do an otherwise legal ceremony sans license, and have it validated after the fact? (I know that's been done in the past, under special circumstances.) Thanks, guys.
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Not a lawyer FYI if they get married the spouse will be liable for all medical expenses at the passing of him. My cousin and his partner chose to have a spiritual wedding instead because his partner was in hospice and didn’t want my cousin liable for the mountain of additional expenses. His partner still put him as the beneficiary in the will but he wasn’t charged the monstrous insurance fees etc.
Not a lawyer but unfortunately I believe you cannot get married via Skype. Marriage laws require the officiant to be physically present and to sign the marriage papers immediately after the ceremony. More info here
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[NY] Groom is dying, time is of the essence. Getting married via Skype "in" another state? A friend of mine knows a couple in NYC that wants to get married. COVID-19 has obviously put any plans on hold, especially since they still need to get the license. The problem is the groom is in hospice, and has maybe a few weeks left to live. He desperately wants to marry his fiancee before he passes. They've heard about some states performing weddings via Skype, and some (like TN, and I think VT) let you apply for a license online. Would they be able to apply for a TN (or other state) marriage license, and then be married by a TN (or whatever) official via Skype? Is there any other recourse they might have to get married in NYC during all of this? Would it be possible to do an otherwise legal ceremony sans license, and have it validated after the fact? (I know that's been done in the past, under special circumstances.) Thanks, guys.
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While the STATE may not recognize a Skype marriage, there is nothing stopping friends, family and God from recognizing the Union. The rest can be papered up to mimic a spouses legal rights and responsibilities. Will, power of attorney, healthcare directive, beneficiary on life insurance and retirement accounts....
Not a lawyer but unfortunately I believe you cannot get married via Skype. Marriage laws require the officiant to be physically present and to sign the marriage papers immediately after the ceremony. More info here
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[NY] Groom is dying, time is of the essence. Getting married via Skype "in" another state? A friend of mine knows a couple in NYC that wants to get married. COVID-19 has obviously put any plans on hold, especially since they still need to get the license. The problem is the groom is in hospice, and has maybe a few weeks left to live. He desperately wants to marry his fiancee before he passes. They've heard about some states performing weddings via Skype, and some (like TN, and I think VT) let you apply for a license online. Would they be able to apply for a TN (or other state) marriage license, and then be married by a TN (or whatever) official via Skype? Is there any other recourse they might have to get married in NYC during all of this? Would it be possible to do an otherwise legal ceremony sans license, and have it validated after the fact? (I know that's been done in the past, under special circumstances.) Thanks, guys.
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Not a lawyer but unfortunately I believe you cannot get married via Skype. Marriage laws require the officiant to be physically present and to sign the marriage papers immediately after the ceremony. More info here
You might want to consider contacting either the Mayor's office, or the Governor's office. It may not be the official way of doing things, but either office might be able to help you somehow. Good luck.
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Wife threw me out and is ghosting me. Delivered divorce papers to me. What are the immediate steps I need to take? Long story short, she made me pack a small bag and I am at my parents house. I was able to grab a few changes of clothes and my work laptop / cell phone. I need to grab many other things, most importantly work equipment, as I work 100% remote. Wife is not responding to text, calls, nothing. I started getting alerts that someone was trying to access my personal email account, DoorDash account, etc. What are the first steps I need to take right away? Without proper equipment my work will definitely suffer. We rent a house together, if that makes any difference. It’s all a little overwhelming and I’m trying to get my head around what needs to be done.
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IAL not your lawyer this is not legal advice etc One, get a lawyer ASAP. Two, check your devices for snooping apps/keystroke loggers. This is an increasingly common tactic in divorce that I've seen. The party who initiated the divorce puts a spyware app on the other's phone and starts scavenging passwords, emails, texts, and anything else they want. Three, change passwords on everything. Four, get a separate bank account and get checks moved there. Then, make arrangements with your landlord and/or the police to get anything else you need out of the home. Do not be shocked if she sold or disposed of things that weren't hers.
Not a lawyer just someone who has had to deal with a similar situation before. As long as you have established residency (rental agreement, mailing address forwarded here, any utilities in your name) you cannot be thrown out of the house the way she has tried to do. Unfortunately, you'll want/need to get law enforcement involved so you can go and retrieve your personal items since this seems like the situation may escalate into a domestic disturbance (not saying physical but it could turn into a shouting match that would be considered disturbing the peace). The "peace officers" would be there to ensure safety of both parties. Before you decide to make arrangements to retrieve your items, I would make a list of things you need and things you want. You may not get another chance to go peacefully to your residence and retrieve said items so having a list will help you figure out what may or may not be missing as well as remembering what is most important. If possible, bring a neutral friend along or family member to help, preferably the same sex. They don't need to come inside with you but having support there will make it a little less stressful. And having a personal witness for you during this retrieval process could be helpful if the divorce starts to get messy. Good luck!
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Wife threw me out and is ghosting me. Delivered divorce papers to me. What are the immediate steps I need to take? Long story short, she made me pack a small bag and I am at my parents house. I was able to grab a few changes of clothes and my work laptop / cell phone. I need to grab many other things, most importantly work equipment, as I work 100% remote. Wife is not responding to text, calls, nothing. I started getting alerts that someone was trying to access my personal email account, DoorDash account, etc. What are the first steps I need to take right away? Without proper equipment my work will definitely suffer. We rent a house together, if that makes any difference. It’s all a little overwhelming and I’m trying to get my head around what needs to be done.
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It is a crime to access your email account without your consent. Punishable by five years' imprisonment in a Federal brig. Read about it, use Google to look up Leon Walker of Michigan, was facing the same for snooping through his wife's account.
IAL not your lawyer this is not legal advice etc One, get a lawyer ASAP. Two, check your devices for snooping apps/keystroke loggers. This is an increasingly common tactic in divorce that I've seen. The party who initiated the divorce puts a spyware app on the other's phone and starts scavenging passwords, emails, texts, and anything else they want. Three, change passwords on everything. Four, get a separate bank account and get checks moved there. Then, make arrangements with your landlord and/or the police to get anything else you need out of the home. Do not be shocked if she sold or disposed of things that weren't hers.
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Wife threw me out and is ghosting me. Delivered divorce papers to me. What are the immediate steps I need to take? Long story short, she made me pack a small bag and I am at my parents house. I was able to grab a few changes of clothes and my work laptop / cell phone. I need to grab many other things, most importantly work equipment, as I work 100% remote. Wife is not responding to text, calls, nothing. I started getting alerts that someone was trying to access my personal email account, DoorDash account, etc. What are the first steps I need to take right away? Without proper equipment my work will definitely suffer. We rent a house together, if that makes any difference. It’s all a little overwhelming and I’m trying to get my head around what needs to be done.
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> We rent a house together, if that makes any difference. Frankly, if all your work stuff is there, you may be better served by going home / moving back in. You have every right to live there. She's welcome to leave if she doesn't want to be around you. If you have work documents at home, you don't really want to leave those where they can be taken, thrown away, or destroyed. As to the rest of your personal property, the best way to protect it is to be where it is. The second best way would be to remove it somewhere safe. Unfortunately we've wandered into lawyer territory: you will need the advice of a good divorce attorney to help you with the next steps. As much as she may not want you around, she does not have any right to throw you out, and she's already proven herself extremely untrustworthy by trying to access your online accounts. Sorry for the loss of your marriage. Lawyer up and good luck.
Not a lawyer just someone who has had to deal with a similar situation before. As long as you have established residency (rental agreement, mailing address forwarded here, any utilities in your name) you cannot be thrown out of the house the way she has tried to do. Unfortunately, you'll want/need to get law enforcement involved so you can go and retrieve your personal items since this seems like the situation may escalate into a domestic disturbance (not saying physical but it could turn into a shouting match that would be considered disturbing the peace). The "peace officers" would be there to ensure safety of both parties. Before you decide to make arrangements to retrieve your items, I would make a list of things you need and things you want. You may not get another chance to go peacefully to your residence and retrieve said items so having a list will help you figure out what may or may not be missing as well as remembering what is most important. If possible, bring a neutral friend along or family member to help, preferably the same sex. They don't need to come inside with you but having support there will make it a little less stressful. And having a personal witness for you during this retrieval process could be helpful if the divorce starts to get messy. Good luck!
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Wife threw me out and is ghosting me. Delivered divorce papers to me. What are the immediate steps I need to take? Long story short, she made me pack a small bag and I am at my parents house. I was able to grab a few changes of clothes and my work laptop / cell phone. I need to grab many other things, most importantly work equipment, as I work 100% remote. Wife is not responding to text, calls, nothing. I started getting alerts that someone was trying to access my personal email account, DoorDash account, etc. What are the first steps I need to take right away? Without proper equipment my work will definitely suffer. We rent a house together, if that makes any difference. It’s all a little overwhelming and I’m trying to get my head around what needs to be done.
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> We rent a house together, if that makes any difference. Frankly, if all your work stuff is there, you may be better served by going home / moving back in. You have every right to live there. She's welcome to leave if she doesn't want to be around you. If you have work documents at home, you don't really want to leave those where they can be taken, thrown away, or destroyed. As to the rest of your personal property, the best way to protect it is to be where it is. The second best way would be to remove it somewhere safe. Unfortunately we've wandered into lawyer territory: you will need the advice of a good divorce attorney to help you with the next steps. As much as she may not want you around, she does not have any right to throw you out, and she's already proven herself extremely untrustworthy by trying to access your online accounts. Sorry for the loss of your marriage. Lawyer up and good luck.
It is a crime to access your email account without your consent. Punishable by five years' imprisonment in a Federal brig. Read about it, use Google to look up Leon Walker of Michigan, was facing the same for snooping through his wife's account.
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Wife threw me out and is ghosting me. Delivered divorce papers to me. What are the immediate steps I need to take? Long story short, she made me pack a small bag and I am at my parents house. I was able to grab a few changes of clothes and my work laptop / cell phone. I need to grab many other things, most importantly work equipment, as I work 100% remote. Wife is not responding to text, calls, nothing. I started getting alerts that someone was trying to access my personal email account, DoorDash account, etc. What are the first steps I need to take right away? Without proper equipment my work will definitely suffer. We rent a house together, if that makes any difference. It’s all a little overwhelming and I’m trying to get my head around what needs to be done.
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Not a lawyer just someone who has had to deal with a similar situation before. As long as you have established residency (rental agreement, mailing address forwarded here, any utilities in your name) you cannot be thrown out of the house the way she has tried to do. Unfortunately, you'll want/need to get law enforcement involved so you can go and retrieve your personal items since this seems like the situation may escalate into a domestic disturbance (not saying physical but it could turn into a shouting match that would be considered disturbing the peace). The "peace officers" would be there to ensure safety of both parties. Before you decide to make arrangements to retrieve your items, I would make a list of things you need and things you want. You may not get another chance to go peacefully to your residence and retrieve said items so having a list will help you figure out what may or may not be missing as well as remembering what is most important. If possible, bring a neutral friend along or family member to help, preferably the same sex. They don't need to come inside with you but having support there will make it a little less stressful. And having a personal witness for you during this retrieval process could be helpful if the divorce starts to get messy. Good luck!
You have every right to just go pick up your stuff. That said, it would be best to have a witness. A police officer would be best, if you can get one to go with you on what they call a "civil standby." The officer won't take sides, or decide who owns what, but he'll be there to prevent violence, and she'll probably behave better with him watching you pack and take your things. Your next step will be to hire a lawyer. It's hard to wrap your head around what's happening, but you're going to be divorced, and you'll want a lawyer to help you with the legalities of it. Meet with him ASAP, and bring all your bank account information, leases, and a list of major property, such as cars. Change the passwords on your personal email, Door Dash, and everything else you can think of. If any of them have security questions for recovering your password, change those to things she doesn't know, and can't guess. I recommend answers that don't even match the questions (First car? Battle of Hastings. Favorite color? Philadelphia.) If you have any joint bank accounts, get a current statement, and ask your lawyer before moving any money into or out of them.
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Wife threw me out and is ghosting me. Delivered divorce papers to me. What are the immediate steps I need to take? Long story short, she made me pack a small bag and I am at my parents house. I was able to grab a few changes of clothes and my work laptop / cell phone. I need to grab many other things, most importantly work equipment, as I work 100% remote. Wife is not responding to text, calls, nothing. I started getting alerts that someone was trying to access my personal email account, DoorDash account, etc. What are the first steps I need to take right away? Without proper equipment my work will definitely suffer. We rent a house together, if that makes any difference. It’s all a little overwhelming and I’m trying to get my head around what needs to be done.
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You have every right to just go pick up your stuff. That said, it would be best to have a witness. A police officer would be best, if you can get one to go with you on what they call a "civil standby." The officer won't take sides, or decide who owns what, but he'll be there to prevent violence, and she'll probably behave better with him watching you pack and take your things. Your next step will be to hire a lawyer. It's hard to wrap your head around what's happening, but you're going to be divorced, and you'll want a lawyer to help you with the legalities of it. Meet with him ASAP, and bring all your bank account information, leases, and a list of major property, such as cars. Change the passwords on your personal email, Door Dash, and everything else you can think of. If any of them have security questions for recovering your password, change those to things she doesn't know, and can't guess. I recommend answers that don't even match the questions (First car? Battle of Hastings. Favorite color? Philadelphia.) If you have any joint bank accounts, get a current statement, and ask your lawyer before moving any money into or out of them.
It is a crime to access your email account without your consent. Punishable by five years' imprisonment in a Federal brig. Read about it, use Google to look up Leon Walker of Michigan, was facing the same for snooping through his wife's account.
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