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nsh7y1 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Online store refuses to refund me and is threatening to fine me if I file a dispute I recently purchased an item from an online hardware store that was approximately $100. A few days later, this company cancelled the order but did not refund the full amount, instead keeping 5%. This isn't a huge sum of money, but it was enough to make my blood boil. How could they keep my money when THEY are the ones that cancelled the order? So I reached out, and told them I wanted the full refund or would be disputing with my credit card company. I quickly received a response, and here are the highlights: "You explicitly agreed to the Terms of Use by electronically signing said document, as a legal and contractual condition of sale. It clearly and concisely states the following: 3) Handling Fee - 5% of the invoice is a non-refundable Handling Fee for placing the order. This fee is not part of the purchase price of the product and is not refunded upon return or cancellation, including involuntary cancellations. Therefore, your statement regarding said is false, and your insinuation of illegality is absurd. As previously stated, your order was refunded. The non-refundable Handling Fee for your use of the website and our processing of your order has nothing to do with the product you purchased. You are certainly welcome to make a big deal out of a few dollars. However, please be advised that any action you take may result in additional fees as per the Terms of Use. I would strongly advise that you read the contract that you electronically signed. Note that we maintain your digital signature, and in fact, no transaction is permitted without manually checking a box stating that you read and agreed to said Terms of Use." ​ And BTW, the terms of use essentially states that they'll fine me $1000 for disputing and send it to collecitons, among other things. Tell me Reddit, how TF is this legal? And what can I do about it? | h0na2vb | h0mq9vo | 1,622,862,719 | 1,622,851,862 | 263 | 234 | In order for a contract to be legally binding, there has to be consideration. They never provided anything, therefore there is no contact. They can certainly try to collect, but if it's reported to the credit agencies it'll turn out extremely poorly for them if you decide to fight them. Take a look at Palmer v. Kleargear for how it turns out for companies that try to do stuff like this. | If it were me, I'd dispute with card company, tell the truth about what happened and let them work it out. At worst, it will be a PITA. Maybe not worth the money, but if you're a stubborn SOB like me, then you will almost certainly prevail in the end. | 1 | 10,857 | 1.123932 |
nsh7y1 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Online store refuses to refund me and is threatening to fine me if I file a dispute I recently purchased an item from an online hardware store that was approximately $100. A few days later, this company cancelled the order but did not refund the full amount, instead keeping 5%. This isn't a huge sum of money, but it was enough to make my blood boil. How could they keep my money when THEY are the ones that cancelled the order? So I reached out, and told them I wanted the full refund or would be disputing with my credit card company. I quickly received a response, and here are the highlights: "You explicitly agreed to the Terms of Use by electronically signing said document, as a legal and contractual condition of sale. It clearly and concisely states the following: 3) Handling Fee - 5% of the invoice is a non-refundable Handling Fee for placing the order. This fee is not part of the purchase price of the product and is not refunded upon return or cancellation, including involuntary cancellations. Therefore, your statement regarding said is false, and your insinuation of illegality is absurd. As previously stated, your order was refunded. The non-refundable Handling Fee for your use of the website and our processing of your order has nothing to do with the product you purchased. You are certainly welcome to make a big deal out of a few dollars. However, please be advised that any action you take may result in additional fees as per the Terms of Use. I would strongly advise that you read the contract that you electronically signed. Note that we maintain your digital signature, and in fact, no transaction is permitted without manually checking a box stating that you read and agreed to said Terms of Use." ​ And BTW, the terms of use essentially states that they'll fine me $1000 for disputing and send it to collecitons, among other things. Tell me Reddit, how TF is this legal? And what can I do about it? | h0na2vb | h0mly0o | 1,622,862,719 | 1,622,849,577 | 263 | 67 | In order for a contract to be legally binding, there has to be consideration. They never provided anything, therefore there is no contact. They can certainly try to collect, but if it's reported to the credit agencies it'll turn out extremely poorly for them if you decide to fight them. Take a look at Palmer v. Kleargear for how it turns out for companies that try to do stuff like this. | You're right that things like 1000$ fees buried in the TOS are generally not legally binding. The issue is they absolutely can attempt to bill you and send you to collections over it. And you'll have to spend time and effort to contest it. Extraordinarily scummy of this company, but there's not a whole lot you can do without a class action suit where a bunch of customers get together and combine their damages. | 1 | 13,142 | 3.925373 |
nsh7y1 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Online store refuses to refund me and is threatening to fine me if I file a dispute I recently purchased an item from an online hardware store that was approximately $100. A few days later, this company cancelled the order but did not refund the full amount, instead keeping 5%. This isn't a huge sum of money, but it was enough to make my blood boil. How could they keep my money when THEY are the ones that cancelled the order? So I reached out, and told them I wanted the full refund or would be disputing with my credit card company. I quickly received a response, and here are the highlights: "You explicitly agreed to the Terms of Use by electronically signing said document, as a legal and contractual condition of sale. It clearly and concisely states the following: 3) Handling Fee - 5% of the invoice is a non-refundable Handling Fee for placing the order. This fee is not part of the purchase price of the product and is not refunded upon return or cancellation, including involuntary cancellations. Therefore, your statement regarding said is false, and your insinuation of illegality is absurd. As previously stated, your order was refunded. The non-refundable Handling Fee for your use of the website and our processing of your order has nothing to do with the product you purchased. You are certainly welcome to make a big deal out of a few dollars. However, please be advised that any action you take may result in additional fees as per the Terms of Use. I would strongly advise that you read the contract that you electronically signed. Note that we maintain your digital signature, and in fact, no transaction is permitted without manually checking a box stating that you read and agreed to said Terms of Use." ​ And BTW, the terms of use essentially states that they'll fine me $1000 for disputing and send it to collecitons, among other things. Tell me Reddit, how TF is this legal? And what can I do about it? | h0mq9vo | h0mly0o | 1,622,851,862 | 1,622,849,577 | 234 | 67 | If it were me, I'd dispute with card company, tell the truth about what happened and let them work it out. At worst, it will be a PITA. Maybe not worth the money, but if you're a stubborn SOB like me, then you will almost certainly prevail in the end. | You're right that things like 1000$ fees buried in the TOS are generally not legally binding. The issue is they absolutely can attempt to bill you and send you to collections over it. And you'll have to spend time and effort to contest it. Extraordinarily scummy of this company, but there's not a whole lot you can do without a class action suit where a bunch of customers get together and combine their damages. | 1 | 2,285 | 3.492537 |
nsh7y1 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Online store refuses to refund me and is threatening to fine me if I file a dispute I recently purchased an item from an online hardware store that was approximately $100. A few days later, this company cancelled the order but did not refund the full amount, instead keeping 5%. This isn't a huge sum of money, but it was enough to make my blood boil. How could they keep my money when THEY are the ones that cancelled the order? So I reached out, and told them I wanted the full refund or would be disputing with my credit card company. I quickly received a response, and here are the highlights: "You explicitly agreed to the Terms of Use by electronically signing said document, as a legal and contractual condition of sale. It clearly and concisely states the following: 3) Handling Fee - 5% of the invoice is a non-refundable Handling Fee for placing the order. This fee is not part of the purchase price of the product and is not refunded upon return or cancellation, including involuntary cancellations. Therefore, your statement regarding said is false, and your insinuation of illegality is absurd. As previously stated, your order was refunded. The non-refundable Handling Fee for your use of the website and our processing of your order has nothing to do with the product you purchased. You are certainly welcome to make a big deal out of a few dollars. However, please be advised that any action you take may result in additional fees as per the Terms of Use. I would strongly advise that you read the contract that you electronically signed. Note that we maintain your digital signature, and in fact, no transaction is permitted without manually checking a box stating that you read and agreed to said Terms of Use." ​ And BTW, the terms of use essentially states that they'll fine me $1000 for disputing and send it to collecitons, among other things. Tell me Reddit, how TF is this legal? And what can I do about it? | h0nf8uv | h0nelsb | 1,622,865,711 | 1,622,865,317 | 172 | 95 | No this is not legal they would be in the right to charge a handling fee if you placed an order but then canceled after they had gone through the effort of packaging the product. However in your case the company canceled the order presumably because they could not fulfill it within a reasonable period of time as such per FTC rules they have to refund the whole amount. The terms and service agreement means nothing if they violate any law or regulations which they would in this case. Thus feel free to chargeback as you are in the right and should they attempt to fine you then it is very likely you would be in the right to chargeback those as well. Here is a link that you could read for your self: https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/business-guide-ftcs-mail-internet-or-telephone-order | Dispute and send a note to Visa or Mastercard directly regarding this merchants practice of threatening to fine for a dispute - def against both card brand rules. Their processor and acquirer will make them fix it and possibly ding them with a non-compliance fee. | 1 | 394 | 1.810526 |
nsh7y1 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Online store refuses to refund me and is threatening to fine me if I file a dispute I recently purchased an item from an online hardware store that was approximately $100. A few days later, this company cancelled the order but did not refund the full amount, instead keeping 5%. This isn't a huge sum of money, but it was enough to make my blood boil. How could they keep my money when THEY are the ones that cancelled the order? So I reached out, and told them I wanted the full refund or would be disputing with my credit card company. I quickly received a response, and here are the highlights: "You explicitly agreed to the Terms of Use by electronically signing said document, as a legal and contractual condition of sale. It clearly and concisely states the following: 3) Handling Fee - 5% of the invoice is a non-refundable Handling Fee for placing the order. This fee is not part of the purchase price of the product and is not refunded upon return or cancellation, including involuntary cancellations. Therefore, your statement regarding said is false, and your insinuation of illegality is absurd. As previously stated, your order was refunded. The non-refundable Handling Fee for your use of the website and our processing of your order has nothing to do with the product you purchased. You are certainly welcome to make a big deal out of a few dollars. However, please be advised that any action you take may result in additional fees as per the Terms of Use. I would strongly advise that you read the contract that you electronically signed. Note that we maintain your digital signature, and in fact, no transaction is permitted without manually checking a box stating that you read and agreed to said Terms of Use." ​ And BTW, the terms of use essentially states that they'll fine me $1000 for disputing and send it to collecitons, among other things. Tell me Reddit, how TF is this legal? And what can I do about it? | h0nf8uv | h0mly0o | 1,622,865,711 | 1,622,849,577 | 172 | 67 | No this is not legal they would be in the right to charge a handling fee if you placed an order but then canceled after they had gone through the effort of packaging the product. However in your case the company canceled the order presumably because they could not fulfill it within a reasonable period of time as such per FTC rules they have to refund the whole amount. The terms and service agreement means nothing if they violate any law or regulations which they would in this case. Thus feel free to chargeback as you are in the right and should they attempt to fine you then it is very likely you would be in the right to chargeback those as well. Here is a link that you could read for your self: https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/business-guide-ftcs-mail-internet-or-telephone-order | You're right that things like 1000$ fees buried in the TOS are generally not legally binding. The issue is they absolutely can attempt to bill you and send you to collections over it. And you'll have to spend time and effort to contest it. Extraordinarily scummy of this company, but there's not a whole lot you can do without a class action suit where a bunch of customers get together and combine their damages. | 1 | 16,134 | 2.567164 |
nsh7y1 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Online store refuses to refund me and is threatening to fine me if I file a dispute I recently purchased an item from an online hardware store that was approximately $100. A few days later, this company cancelled the order but did not refund the full amount, instead keeping 5%. This isn't a huge sum of money, but it was enough to make my blood boil. How could they keep my money when THEY are the ones that cancelled the order? So I reached out, and told them I wanted the full refund or would be disputing with my credit card company. I quickly received a response, and here are the highlights: "You explicitly agreed to the Terms of Use by electronically signing said document, as a legal and contractual condition of sale. It clearly and concisely states the following: 3) Handling Fee - 5% of the invoice is a non-refundable Handling Fee for placing the order. This fee is not part of the purchase price of the product and is not refunded upon return or cancellation, including involuntary cancellations. Therefore, your statement regarding said is false, and your insinuation of illegality is absurd. As previously stated, your order was refunded. The non-refundable Handling Fee for your use of the website and our processing of your order has nothing to do with the product you purchased. You are certainly welcome to make a big deal out of a few dollars. However, please be advised that any action you take may result in additional fees as per the Terms of Use. I would strongly advise that you read the contract that you electronically signed. Note that we maintain your digital signature, and in fact, no transaction is permitted without manually checking a box stating that you read and agreed to said Terms of Use." ​ And BTW, the terms of use essentially states that they'll fine me $1000 for disputing and send it to collecitons, among other things. Tell me Reddit, how TF is this legal? And what can I do about it? | h0mly0o | h0nelsb | 1,622,849,577 | 1,622,865,317 | 67 | 95 | You're right that things like 1000$ fees buried in the TOS are generally not legally binding. The issue is they absolutely can attempt to bill you and send you to collections over it. And you'll have to spend time and effort to contest it. Extraordinarily scummy of this company, but there's not a whole lot you can do without a class action suit where a bunch of customers get together and combine their damages. | Dispute and send a note to Visa or Mastercard directly regarding this merchants practice of threatening to fine for a dispute - def against both card brand rules. Their processor and acquirer will make them fix it and possibly ding them with a non-compliance fee. | 0 | 15,740 | 1.41791 |
nsh7y1 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Online store refuses to refund me and is threatening to fine me if I file a dispute I recently purchased an item from an online hardware store that was approximately $100. A few days later, this company cancelled the order but did not refund the full amount, instead keeping 5%. This isn't a huge sum of money, but it was enough to make my blood boil. How could they keep my money when THEY are the ones that cancelled the order? So I reached out, and told them I wanted the full refund or would be disputing with my credit card company. I quickly received a response, and here are the highlights: "You explicitly agreed to the Terms of Use by electronically signing said document, as a legal and contractual condition of sale. It clearly and concisely states the following: 3) Handling Fee - 5% of the invoice is a non-refundable Handling Fee for placing the order. This fee is not part of the purchase price of the product and is not refunded upon return or cancellation, including involuntary cancellations. Therefore, your statement regarding said is false, and your insinuation of illegality is absurd. As previously stated, your order was refunded. The non-refundable Handling Fee for your use of the website and our processing of your order has nothing to do with the product you purchased. You are certainly welcome to make a big deal out of a few dollars. However, please be advised that any action you take may result in additional fees as per the Terms of Use. I would strongly advise that you read the contract that you electronically signed. Note that we maintain your digital signature, and in fact, no transaction is permitted without manually checking a box stating that you read and agreed to said Terms of Use." ​ And BTW, the terms of use essentially states that they'll fine me $1000 for disputing and send it to collecitons, among other things. Tell me Reddit, how TF is this legal? And what can I do about it? | h0nzp1c | h0nzv0a | 1,622,881,904 | 1,622,882,064 | 37 | 55 | Not a lawyer but someone who has worked for fraud and claims of a bank before. You have 90 days to file a dispute with your bank. When you call, tell them that "a product or service was not received or rendered" and they will know what to do from there. | Consider contacting your state attorney general's consumer protection division about this. Even just letting the company know that you will be reaching out to your state AG to file a complaint may get them to change their tune, but this kind of scummy behavior should be reported. | 0 | 160 | 1.486486 |
nsh7y1 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Online store refuses to refund me and is threatening to fine me if I file a dispute I recently purchased an item from an online hardware store that was approximately $100. A few days later, this company cancelled the order but did not refund the full amount, instead keeping 5%. This isn't a huge sum of money, but it was enough to make my blood boil. How could they keep my money when THEY are the ones that cancelled the order? So I reached out, and told them I wanted the full refund or would be disputing with my credit card company. I quickly received a response, and here are the highlights: "You explicitly agreed to the Terms of Use by electronically signing said document, as a legal and contractual condition of sale. It clearly and concisely states the following: 3) Handling Fee - 5% of the invoice is a non-refundable Handling Fee for placing the order. This fee is not part of the purchase price of the product and is not refunded upon return or cancellation, including involuntary cancellations. Therefore, your statement regarding said is false, and your insinuation of illegality is absurd. As previously stated, your order was refunded. The non-refundable Handling Fee for your use of the website and our processing of your order has nothing to do with the product you purchased. You are certainly welcome to make a big deal out of a few dollars. However, please be advised that any action you take may result in additional fees as per the Terms of Use. I would strongly advise that you read the contract that you electronically signed. Note that we maintain your digital signature, and in fact, no transaction is permitted without manually checking a box stating that you read and agreed to said Terms of Use." ​ And BTW, the terms of use essentially states that they'll fine me $1000 for disputing and send it to collecitons, among other things. Tell me Reddit, how TF is this legal? And what can I do about it? | h0o4ubb | h0nzp1c | 1,622,886,581 | 1,622,881,904 | 47 | 37 | >You are certainly welcome to make a big deal out of a few dollars. However, please be advised that any action you take may result in additional fees as per the Terms of Use. If hypocrisy was a crime. | Not a lawyer but someone who has worked for fraud and claims of a bank before. You have 90 days to file a dispute with your bank. When you call, tell them that "a product or service was not received or rendered" and they will know what to do from there. | 1 | 4,677 | 1.27027 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi1aeqh | hi1al4j | 1,635,196,866 | 1,635,196,941 | 1,541 | 2,126 | SCAM. Dont do it. Post on /r/scams also | This IS a scam. Trust your gut and don't fall for it. No police officer is going to phone you up and call you an idiot and tell you they were going to *put you down as a suspect*. If you were suspected of any crime, you would either be arrested or you wouldn't know about it until they had gathered evidence. The person you spoke to was no police officer. What usually happens here is that you will voluntarily send money to an account as a "refund". They will then reverse the original transaction by claiming it was fraudulent (ironic) and you'll be left out of pocket to the tune of $500. | 0 | 75 | 1.379624 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi1auzo | hi1yoyx | 1,635,197,058 | 1,635,207,757 | 330 | 630 | You don't touch it. Direct them to contact PP to reverse the transaction. | > If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? Others have mentioned that it's a scam, I'll throw a bit of different information here. The way the scam works is that the $500 sent to you is 'bad money'. It's probably a stolen/hacked account, or other identity theft issue. The way you stop the scam is to contact PayPal and have them fix the mistake. No matter what, $500 is getting removed from your account. As I said before, it is 'bad money'. *They will get the 'bad money' back to the original person that it was stolen from.* The scam succeeds when you send 'good money' to the scammer. Don't send your 'good money', in order to keep the 'bad money'. Because even if you send good money, the bad money is still going away. > The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money....He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. Pretty much well done here! > What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? If they call again, immediately note their name, their department ("Property Crime" or "Internet Crimes" department?) and badge number. Do not call the phone number they give you, or the number on your called ID. Instead, call the actual Phoenix, Arizona police department (602-262-6151 https://www.phoenix.gov/police) and verify the caller. You already know this, but the police have not been calling you. | 0 | 10,699 | 1.909091 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi1yoyx | hi1nw61 | 1,635,207,757 | 1,635,202,756 | 630 | 208 | > If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? Others have mentioned that it's a scam, I'll throw a bit of different information here. The way the scam works is that the $500 sent to you is 'bad money'. It's probably a stolen/hacked account, or other identity theft issue. The way you stop the scam is to contact PayPal and have them fix the mistake. No matter what, $500 is getting removed from your account. As I said before, it is 'bad money'. *They will get the 'bad money' back to the original person that it was stolen from.* The scam succeeds when you send 'good money' to the scammer. Don't send your 'good money', in order to keep the 'bad money'. Because even if you send good money, the bad money is still going away. > The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money....He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. Pretty much well done here! > What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? If they call again, immediately note their name, their department ("Property Crime" or "Internet Crimes" department?) and badge number. Do not call the phone number they give you, or the number on your called ID. Instead, call the actual Phoenix, Arizona police department (602-262-6151 https://www.phoenix.gov/police) and verify the caller. You already know this, but the police have not been calling you. | Definitely a scam. Contact PP and let them know what is going on. Screenshot the texts and phone number the calls are coming from. Email that to PP. Let PP handle it. If it's not a scam, contacting PP to handle the matter shows your due diligence in trying to rectify the situation. If an "officer" calls you back say nothing. Dont even tell them you've contacted PP. Tell them "I have nothing to say, goodbye". If it was an accident, which is very unlikely, then them contacting PP, and you contacting PP will eventually rectify the mistake. PP will reverse the charges. Do not respond to anymore texts or calls. I'm wondering how they even got your phone number to begin with. | 1 | 5,001 | 3.028846 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi1yoyx | hi1bhaa | 1,635,207,757 | 1,635,197,325 | 630 | 25 | > If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? Others have mentioned that it's a scam, I'll throw a bit of different information here. The way the scam works is that the $500 sent to you is 'bad money'. It's probably a stolen/hacked account, or other identity theft issue. The way you stop the scam is to contact PayPal and have them fix the mistake. No matter what, $500 is getting removed from your account. As I said before, it is 'bad money'. *They will get the 'bad money' back to the original person that it was stolen from.* The scam succeeds when you send 'good money' to the scammer. Don't send your 'good money', in order to keep the 'bad money'. Because even if you send good money, the bad money is still going away. > The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money....He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. Pretty much well done here! > What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? If they call again, immediately note their name, their department ("Property Crime" or "Internet Crimes" department?) and badge number. Do not call the phone number they give you, or the number on your called ID. Instead, call the actual Phoenix, Arizona police department (602-262-6151 https://www.phoenix.gov/police) and verify the caller. You already know this, but the police have not been calling you. | Not a lawyer but it does sound like a scam... I did a quick Google search and the first article that showed up said that apparently it's a thing... "Scammers are laundering stolen cash through money transfer apps, the Better Business Bureau (BBB) reported." (https://www.knoe.com/content/news/KNOE-570158231.html) | 1 | 10,432 | 25.2 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi1rbwi | hi1yoyx | 1,635,204,330 | 1,635,207,757 | 25 | 630 | To add to the other comments, even if somehow this is legit (most likely not), this would fall under a civil matter and not criminal. Cops would not be contacting you. They could sue you, but that's it | > If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? Others have mentioned that it's a scam, I'll throw a bit of different information here. The way the scam works is that the $500 sent to you is 'bad money'. It's probably a stolen/hacked account, or other identity theft issue. The way you stop the scam is to contact PayPal and have them fix the mistake. No matter what, $500 is getting removed from your account. As I said before, it is 'bad money'. *They will get the 'bad money' back to the original person that it was stolen from.* The scam succeeds when you send 'good money' to the scammer. Don't send your 'good money', in order to keep the 'bad money'. Because even if you send good money, the bad money is still going away. > The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money....He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. Pretty much well done here! > What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? If they call again, immediately note their name, their department ("Property Crime" or "Internet Crimes" department?) and badge number. Do not call the phone number they give you, or the number on your called ID. Instead, call the actual Phoenix, Arizona police department (602-262-6151 https://www.phoenix.gov/police) and verify the caller. You already know this, but the police have not been calling you. | 0 | 3,427 | 25.2 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi1bhaa | hi1nw61 | 1,635,197,325 | 1,635,202,756 | 25 | 208 | Not a lawyer but it does sound like a scam... I did a quick Google search and the first article that showed up said that apparently it's a thing... "Scammers are laundering stolen cash through money transfer apps, the Better Business Bureau (BBB) reported." (https://www.knoe.com/content/news/KNOE-570158231.html) | Definitely a scam. Contact PP and let them know what is going on. Screenshot the texts and phone number the calls are coming from. Email that to PP. Let PP handle it. If it's not a scam, contacting PP to handle the matter shows your due diligence in trying to rectify the situation. If an "officer" calls you back say nothing. Dont even tell them you've contacted PP. Tell them "I have nothing to say, goodbye". If it was an accident, which is very unlikely, then them contacting PP, and you contacting PP will eventually rectify the mistake. PP will reverse the charges. Do not respond to anymore texts or calls. I'm wondering how they even got your phone number to begin with. | 0 | 5,431 | 8.32 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi2ilae | hi2hnrk | 1,635,217,101 | 1,635,216,638 | 113 | 59 | Scam. And by the way, I’ve heard of PayPal telling people to just go ahead and refund it to the scammer instead of PP reversing it. This is so that PP can avoid liability in the future. Always insist on PayPal handling it internally and tell the people who sent the money that they need to call PayPal. | If you talk to a “police officer” ask for their name, badge number, phone number, and police department they work for. Then call the police department during business hours and explain you are returning a call from Officer Smith, badge number xyz. Either they will say “who?” Or they will say okay and take your number, and you will later get a phone call from an Officer Smith who is clearly not the person you talked to earlier (depending on the amount of time and effort the scammers put into the illusion.) Anytime anyone from an “agency” or official business calls you, you should immediately get their name and contact info and call them back utilizing a known, trusted contact for that business before you give them any information. | 1 | 463 | 1.915254 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi2ilae | hi29w48 | 1,635,217,101 | 1,635,212,890 | 113 | 40 | Scam. And by the way, I’ve heard of PayPal telling people to just go ahead and refund it to the scammer instead of PP reversing it. This is so that PP can avoid liability in the future. Always insist on PayPal handling it internally and tell the people who sent the money that they need to call PayPal. | Definitely a scam. Think of it like this, because this is a real life example. I work in hotels. Someone called, said they were bringing a group, wanted to pay up front. They provide a Credit Card number, want to pay the full amount up front. We charge the card for $XXXX. Couple days later they call and say a couple rooms cancelled, can we send them a check for the difference? We send them a check, a week later the CC comes back as fraud. Hotel is out the original money plus the money we sent a check for. Let PayPal handle everything. Ignore everything else. | 1 | 4,211 | 2.825 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi2ilae | hi1bhaa | 1,635,217,101 | 1,635,197,325 | 113 | 25 | Scam. And by the way, I’ve heard of PayPal telling people to just go ahead and refund it to the scammer instead of PP reversing it. This is so that PP can avoid liability in the future. Always insist on PayPal handling it internally and tell the people who sent the money that they need to call PayPal. | Not a lawyer but it does sound like a scam... I did a quick Google search and the first article that showed up said that apparently it's a thing... "Scammers are laundering stolen cash through money transfer apps, the Better Business Bureau (BBB) reported." (https://www.knoe.com/content/news/KNOE-570158231.html) | 1 | 19,776 | 4.52 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi2ilae | hi1rbwi | 1,635,217,101 | 1,635,204,330 | 113 | 25 | Scam. And by the way, I’ve heard of PayPal telling people to just go ahead and refund it to the scammer instead of PP reversing it. This is so that PP can avoid liability in the future. Always insist on PayPal handling it internally and tell the people who sent the money that they need to call PayPal. | To add to the other comments, even if somehow this is legit (most likely not), this would fall under a civil matter and not criminal. Cops would not be contacting you. They could sue you, but that's it | 1 | 12,771 | 4.52 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi2ilae | hi25ukt | 1,635,217,101 | 1,635,211,052 | 113 | 8 | Scam. And by the way, I’ve heard of PayPal telling people to just go ahead and refund it to the scammer instead of PP reversing it. This is so that PP can avoid liability in the future. Always insist on PayPal handling it internally and tell the people who sent the money that they need to call PayPal. | Very common scam, tell them to talk to PayPal about it, not you. | 1 | 6,049 | 14.125 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi2ilae | hi2ehdm | 1,635,217,101 | 1,635,215,080 | 113 | 5 | Scam. And by the way, I’ve heard of PayPal telling people to just go ahead and refund it to the scammer instead of PP reversing it. This is so that PP can avoid liability in the future. Always insist on PayPal handling it internally and tell the people who sent the money that they need to call PayPal. | Definitely a scam and a common one at that, you'll send them the funds back only to see them do a charge back shortly after. Just ignore it. | 1 | 2,021 | 22.6 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi2dirl | hi2ilae | 1,635,214,608 | 1,635,217,101 | 4 | 113 | It's a common scam to send money, have the receivee send the money back, then do a charge back thus getting double what was originally sent. Ignore it. Don't send any money, don't touch it, just pretend it's not there and it'll eventually disappear once they do a charge back. | Scam. And by the way, I’ve heard of PayPal telling people to just go ahead and refund it to the scammer instead of PP reversing it. This is so that PP can avoid liability in the future. Always insist on PayPal handling it internally and tell the people who sent the money that they need to call PayPal. | 0 | 2,493 | 28.25 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi29w48 | hi2hnrk | 1,635,212,890 | 1,635,216,638 | 40 | 59 | Definitely a scam. Think of it like this, because this is a real life example. I work in hotels. Someone called, said they were bringing a group, wanted to pay up front. They provide a Credit Card number, want to pay the full amount up front. We charge the card for $XXXX. Couple days later they call and say a couple rooms cancelled, can we send them a check for the difference? We send them a check, a week later the CC comes back as fraud. Hotel is out the original money plus the money we sent a check for. Let PayPal handle everything. Ignore everything else. | If you talk to a “police officer” ask for their name, badge number, phone number, and police department they work for. Then call the police department during business hours and explain you are returning a call from Officer Smith, badge number xyz. Either they will say “who?” Or they will say okay and take your number, and you will later get a phone call from an Officer Smith who is clearly not the person you talked to earlier (depending on the amount of time and effort the scammers put into the illusion.) Anytime anyone from an “agency” or official business calls you, you should immediately get their name and contact info and call them back utilizing a known, trusted contact for that business before you give them any information. | 0 | 3,748 | 1.475 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi2hnrk | hi1bhaa | 1,635,216,638 | 1,635,197,325 | 59 | 25 | If you talk to a “police officer” ask for their name, badge number, phone number, and police department they work for. Then call the police department during business hours and explain you are returning a call from Officer Smith, badge number xyz. Either they will say “who?” Or they will say okay and take your number, and you will later get a phone call from an Officer Smith who is clearly not the person you talked to earlier (depending on the amount of time and effort the scammers put into the illusion.) Anytime anyone from an “agency” or official business calls you, you should immediately get their name and contact info and call them back utilizing a known, trusted contact for that business before you give them any information. | Not a lawyer but it does sound like a scam... I did a quick Google search and the first article that showed up said that apparently it's a thing... "Scammers are laundering stolen cash through money transfer apps, the Better Business Bureau (BBB) reported." (https://www.knoe.com/content/news/KNOE-570158231.html) | 1 | 19,313 | 2.36 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi2hnrk | hi1rbwi | 1,635,216,638 | 1,635,204,330 | 59 | 25 | If you talk to a “police officer” ask for their name, badge number, phone number, and police department they work for. Then call the police department during business hours and explain you are returning a call from Officer Smith, badge number xyz. Either they will say “who?” Or they will say okay and take your number, and you will later get a phone call from an Officer Smith who is clearly not the person you talked to earlier (depending on the amount of time and effort the scammers put into the illusion.) Anytime anyone from an “agency” or official business calls you, you should immediately get their name and contact info and call them back utilizing a known, trusted contact for that business before you give them any information. | To add to the other comments, even if somehow this is legit (most likely not), this would fall under a civil matter and not criminal. Cops would not be contacting you. They could sue you, but that's it | 1 | 12,308 | 2.36 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi25ukt | hi2hnrk | 1,635,211,052 | 1,635,216,638 | 8 | 59 | Very common scam, tell them to talk to PayPal about it, not you. | If you talk to a “police officer” ask for their name, badge number, phone number, and police department they work for. Then call the police department during business hours and explain you are returning a call from Officer Smith, badge number xyz. Either they will say “who?” Or they will say okay and take your number, and you will later get a phone call from an Officer Smith who is clearly not the person you talked to earlier (depending on the amount of time and effort the scammers put into the illusion.) Anytime anyone from an “agency” or official business calls you, you should immediately get their name and contact info and call them back utilizing a known, trusted contact for that business before you give them any information. | 0 | 5,586 | 7.375 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi2ehdm | hi2hnrk | 1,635,215,080 | 1,635,216,638 | 5 | 59 | Definitely a scam and a common one at that, you'll send them the funds back only to see them do a charge back shortly after. Just ignore it. | If you talk to a “police officer” ask for their name, badge number, phone number, and police department they work for. Then call the police department during business hours and explain you are returning a call from Officer Smith, badge number xyz. Either they will say “who?” Or they will say okay and take your number, and you will later get a phone call from an Officer Smith who is clearly not the person you talked to earlier (depending on the amount of time and effort the scammers put into the illusion.) Anytime anyone from an “agency” or official business calls you, you should immediately get their name and contact info and call them back utilizing a known, trusted contact for that business before you give them any information. | 0 | 1,558 | 11.8 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi2hnrk | hi2dirl | 1,635,216,638 | 1,635,214,608 | 59 | 4 | If you talk to a “police officer” ask for their name, badge number, phone number, and police department they work for. Then call the police department during business hours and explain you are returning a call from Officer Smith, badge number xyz. Either they will say “who?” Or they will say okay and take your number, and you will later get a phone call from an Officer Smith who is clearly not the person you talked to earlier (depending on the amount of time and effort the scammers put into the illusion.) Anytime anyone from an “agency” or official business calls you, you should immediately get their name and contact info and call them back utilizing a known, trusted contact for that business before you give them any information. | It's a common scam to send money, have the receivee send the money back, then do a charge back thus getting double what was originally sent. Ignore it. Don't send any money, don't touch it, just pretend it's not there and it'll eventually disappear once they do a charge back. | 1 | 2,030 | 14.75 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi1bhaa | hi29w48 | 1,635,197,325 | 1,635,212,890 | 25 | 40 | Not a lawyer but it does sound like a scam... I did a quick Google search and the first article that showed up said that apparently it's a thing... "Scammers are laundering stolen cash through money transfer apps, the Better Business Bureau (BBB) reported." (https://www.knoe.com/content/news/KNOE-570158231.html) | Definitely a scam. Think of it like this, because this is a real life example. I work in hotels. Someone called, said they were bringing a group, wanted to pay up front. They provide a Credit Card number, want to pay the full amount up front. We charge the card for $XXXX. Couple days later they call and say a couple rooms cancelled, can we send them a check for the difference? We send them a check, a week later the CC comes back as fraud. Hotel is out the original money plus the money we sent a check for. Let PayPal handle everything. Ignore everything else. | 0 | 15,565 | 1.6 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi29w48 | hi1rbwi | 1,635,212,890 | 1,635,204,330 | 40 | 25 | Definitely a scam. Think of it like this, because this is a real life example. I work in hotels. Someone called, said they were bringing a group, wanted to pay up front. They provide a Credit Card number, want to pay the full amount up front. We charge the card for $XXXX. Couple days later they call and say a couple rooms cancelled, can we send them a check for the difference? We send them a check, a week later the CC comes back as fraud. Hotel is out the original money plus the money we sent a check for. Let PayPal handle everything. Ignore everything else. | To add to the other comments, even if somehow this is legit (most likely not), this would fall under a civil matter and not criminal. Cops would not be contacting you. They could sue you, but that's it | 1 | 8,560 | 1.6 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi25ukt | hi29w48 | 1,635,211,052 | 1,635,212,890 | 8 | 40 | Very common scam, tell them to talk to PayPal about it, not you. | Definitely a scam. Think of it like this, because this is a real life example. I work in hotels. Someone called, said they were bringing a group, wanted to pay up front. They provide a Credit Card number, want to pay the full amount up front. We charge the card for $XXXX. Couple days later they call and say a couple rooms cancelled, can we send them a check for the difference? We send them a check, a week later the CC comes back as fraud. Hotel is out the original money plus the money we sent a check for. Let PayPal handle everything. Ignore everything else. | 0 | 1,838 | 5 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi1bhaa | hi2vg76 | 1,635,197,325 | 1,635,224,674 | 25 | 30 | Not a lawyer but it does sound like a scam... I did a quick Google search and the first article that showed up said that apparently it's a thing... "Scammers are laundering stolen cash through money transfer apps, the Better Business Bureau (BBB) reported." (https://www.knoe.com/content/news/KNOE-570158231.html) | Don’t withdraw it. Contact PayPal. Tell them you had a $500 credit to your account that shouldn’t be there. Either it’s a scam and not your problem, or it’s not a scam (but come on it’s a scam) and the clawback should go back through PayPal. Do not withdraw the money. You’ll just have to pay it back. Like many scams, this one preys on the dishonest mark loooking to pick up some free money. | 0 | 27,349 | 1.2 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi1rbwi | hi2vg76 | 1,635,204,330 | 1,635,224,674 | 25 | 30 | To add to the other comments, even if somehow this is legit (most likely not), this would fall under a civil matter and not criminal. Cops would not be contacting you. They could sue you, but that's it | Don’t withdraw it. Contact PayPal. Tell them you had a $500 credit to your account that shouldn’t be there. Either it’s a scam and not your problem, or it’s not a scam (but come on it’s a scam) and the clawback should go back through PayPal. Do not withdraw the money. You’ll just have to pay it back. Like many scams, this one preys on the dishonest mark loooking to pick up some free money. | 0 | 20,344 | 1.2 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi2vg76 | hi2ttc3 | 1,635,224,674 | 1,635,223,573 | 30 | 17 | Don’t withdraw it. Contact PayPal. Tell them you had a $500 credit to your account that shouldn’t be there. Either it’s a scam and not your problem, or it’s not a scam (but come on it’s a scam) and the clawback should go back through PayPal. Do not withdraw the money. You’ll just have to pay it back. Like many scams, this one preys on the dishonest mark loooking to pick up some free money. | >I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. This is a good idea. Reporting the scam to PayPal is a good move, and they can flag the other account involved, etc. :) Call their support, and ask to report potential fraud. >If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Don't worry, it's not. If it was, they could contact PayPal and have the transaction reversed. If PayPal didn't cooperate, they could call their bank and have the bank draft / credit card charge voided. >Could this be a money laundering scheme? Maybe, but more likely a run of the mill scam to just steal money outright. Which it is, isn't particularly relevant to you, fortunately. Just don't do anything they ask. >What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Absolutely nothing of consequence. A law enforcement officer wouldn't talk to you like that unless they were pretty dumb, and they generally wouldn't (unless again, uneducated) call you in regards to a matter that needs to be handled by PayPal... they'd just advise the person to call PayPal. Again, you have not committed any crime. You are fine. Mistaken financial transactions / transfers happen all the time actually, and they are supposed to be resolved with the help of the financial institutions involved, not by you individually trying to 'correct' the books by moving the misplaced money around further. **Contact PayPal Customer Support** and ask to report a potential fraud / scam. https://www.paypal.com/us/smarthelp/contact-us If the transaction was a mistake (it wasn't, it's a scam), PayPal will reverse / void any transactions as needed. If the transaction is part of a scam / fraud (it is), PayPal will reverse / void any transactions as needed, and flag / lock any accounts as appropriate. | 1 | 1,101 | 1.764706 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi25ukt | hi2vg76 | 1,635,211,052 | 1,635,224,674 | 8 | 30 | Very common scam, tell them to talk to PayPal about it, not you. | Don’t withdraw it. Contact PayPal. Tell them you had a $500 credit to your account that shouldn’t be there. Either it’s a scam and not your problem, or it’s not a scam (but come on it’s a scam) and the clawback should go back through PayPal. Do not withdraw the money. You’ll just have to pay it back. Like many scams, this one preys on the dishonest mark loooking to pick up some free money. | 0 | 13,622 | 3.75 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi2ehdm | hi2vg76 | 1,635,215,080 | 1,635,224,674 | 5 | 30 | Definitely a scam and a common one at that, you'll send them the funds back only to see them do a charge back shortly after. Just ignore it. | Don’t withdraw it. Contact PayPal. Tell them you had a $500 credit to your account that shouldn’t be there. Either it’s a scam and not your problem, or it’s not a scam (but come on it’s a scam) and the clawback should go back through PayPal. Do not withdraw the money. You’ll just have to pay it back. Like many scams, this one preys on the dishonest mark loooking to pick up some free money. | 0 | 9,594 | 6 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi2vg76 | hi2dirl | 1,635,224,674 | 1,635,214,608 | 30 | 4 | Don’t withdraw it. Contact PayPal. Tell them you had a $500 credit to your account that shouldn’t be there. Either it’s a scam and not your problem, or it’s not a scam (but come on it’s a scam) and the clawback should go back through PayPal. Do not withdraw the money. You’ll just have to pay it back. Like many scams, this one preys on the dishonest mark loooking to pick up some free money. | It's a common scam to send money, have the receivee send the money back, then do a charge back thus getting double what was originally sent. Ignore it. Don't send any money, don't touch it, just pretend it's not there and it'll eventually disappear once they do a charge back. | 1 | 10,066 | 7.5 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi25ukt | hi2ttc3 | 1,635,211,052 | 1,635,223,573 | 8 | 17 | Very common scam, tell them to talk to PayPal about it, not you. | >I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. This is a good idea. Reporting the scam to PayPal is a good move, and they can flag the other account involved, etc. :) Call their support, and ask to report potential fraud. >If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Don't worry, it's not. If it was, they could contact PayPal and have the transaction reversed. If PayPal didn't cooperate, they could call their bank and have the bank draft / credit card charge voided. >Could this be a money laundering scheme? Maybe, but more likely a run of the mill scam to just steal money outright. Which it is, isn't particularly relevant to you, fortunately. Just don't do anything they ask. >What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Absolutely nothing of consequence. A law enforcement officer wouldn't talk to you like that unless they were pretty dumb, and they generally wouldn't (unless again, uneducated) call you in regards to a matter that needs to be handled by PayPal... they'd just advise the person to call PayPal. Again, you have not committed any crime. You are fine. Mistaken financial transactions / transfers happen all the time actually, and they are supposed to be resolved with the help of the financial institutions involved, not by you individually trying to 'correct' the books by moving the misplaced money around further. **Contact PayPal Customer Support** and ask to report a potential fraud / scam. https://www.paypal.com/us/smarthelp/contact-us If the transaction was a mistake (it wasn't, it's a scam), PayPal will reverse / void any transactions as needed. If the transaction is part of a scam / fraud (it is), PayPal will reverse / void any transactions as needed, and flag / lock any accounts as appropriate. | 0 | 12,521 | 2.125 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi2ttc3 | hi2ehdm | 1,635,223,573 | 1,635,215,080 | 17 | 5 | >I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. This is a good idea. Reporting the scam to PayPal is a good move, and they can flag the other account involved, etc. :) Call their support, and ask to report potential fraud. >If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Don't worry, it's not. If it was, they could contact PayPal and have the transaction reversed. If PayPal didn't cooperate, they could call their bank and have the bank draft / credit card charge voided. >Could this be a money laundering scheme? Maybe, but more likely a run of the mill scam to just steal money outright. Which it is, isn't particularly relevant to you, fortunately. Just don't do anything they ask. >What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Absolutely nothing of consequence. A law enforcement officer wouldn't talk to you like that unless they were pretty dumb, and they generally wouldn't (unless again, uneducated) call you in regards to a matter that needs to be handled by PayPal... they'd just advise the person to call PayPal. Again, you have not committed any crime. You are fine. Mistaken financial transactions / transfers happen all the time actually, and they are supposed to be resolved with the help of the financial institutions involved, not by you individually trying to 'correct' the books by moving the misplaced money around further. **Contact PayPal Customer Support** and ask to report a potential fraud / scam. https://www.paypal.com/us/smarthelp/contact-us If the transaction was a mistake (it wasn't, it's a scam), PayPal will reverse / void any transactions as needed. If the transaction is part of a scam / fraud (it is), PayPal will reverse / void any transactions as needed, and flag / lock any accounts as appropriate. | Definitely a scam and a common one at that, you'll send them the funds back only to see them do a charge back shortly after. Just ignore it. | 1 | 8,493 | 3.4 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi2dirl | hi2ttc3 | 1,635,214,608 | 1,635,223,573 | 4 | 17 | It's a common scam to send money, have the receivee send the money back, then do a charge back thus getting double what was originally sent. Ignore it. Don't send any money, don't touch it, just pretend it's not there and it'll eventually disappear once they do a charge back. | >I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. This is a good idea. Reporting the scam to PayPal is a good move, and they can flag the other account involved, etc. :) Call their support, and ask to report potential fraud. >If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Don't worry, it's not. If it was, they could contact PayPal and have the transaction reversed. If PayPal didn't cooperate, they could call their bank and have the bank draft / credit card charge voided. >Could this be a money laundering scheme? Maybe, but more likely a run of the mill scam to just steal money outright. Which it is, isn't particularly relevant to you, fortunately. Just don't do anything they ask. >What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Absolutely nothing of consequence. A law enforcement officer wouldn't talk to you like that unless they were pretty dumb, and they generally wouldn't (unless again, uneducated) call you in regards to a matter that needs to be handled by PayPal... they'd just advise the person to call PayPal. Again, you have not committed any crime. You are fine. Mistaken financial transactions / transfers happen all the time actually, and they are supposed to be resolved with the help of the financial institutions involved, not by you individually trying to 'correct' the books by moving the misplaced money around further. **Contact PayPal Customer Support** and ask to report a potential fraud / scam. https://www.paypal.com/us/smarthelp/contact-us If the transaction was a mistake (it wasn't, it's a scam), PayPal will reverse / void any transactions as needed. If the transaction is part of a scam / fraud (it is), PayPal will reverse / void any transactions as needed, and flag / lock any accounts as appropriate. | 0 | 8,965 | 4.25 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi2x0yu | hi2y5xz | 1,635,225,798 | 1,635,226,625 | 8 | 13 | Scam!! | https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/Archive/I-have-sent-money-to-the-wrong-paypal-account-What-can-I-do/td-p/426525 I approved a refund request once, but it was via PayPal. I wasn’t asked to send money as a refund. That sounds scammy. | 0 | 827 | 1.625 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi25ukt | hi2y5xz | 1,635,211,052 | 1,635,226,625 | 8 | 13 | Very common scam, tell them to talk to PayPal about it, not you. | https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/Archive/I-have-sent-money-to-the-wrong-paypal-account-What-can-I-do/td-p/426525 I approved a refund request once, but it was via PayPal. I wasn’t asked to send money as a refund. That sounds scammy. | 0 | 15,573 | 1.625 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi2y5xz | hi2ehdm | 1,635,226,625 | 1,635,215,080 | 13 | 5 | https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/Archive/I-have-sent-money-to-the-wrong-paypal-account-What-can-I-do/td-p/426525 I approved a refund request once, but it was via PayPal. I wasn’t asked to send money as a refund. That sounds scammy. | Definitely a scam and a common one at that, you'll send them the funds back only to see them do a charge back shortly after. Just ignore it. | 1 | 11,545 | 2.6 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi2dirl | hi2y5xz | 1,635,214,608 | 1,635,226,625 | 4 | 13 | It's a common scam to send money, have the receivee send the money back, then do a charge back thus getting double what was originally sent. Ignore it. Don't send any money, don't touch it, just pretend it's not there and it'll eventually disappear once they do a charge back. | https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/Archive/I-have-sent-money-to-the-wrong-paypal-account-What-can-I-do/td-p/426525 I approved a refund request once, but it was via PayPal. I wasn’t asked to send money as a refund. That sounds scammy. | 0 | 12,017 | 3.25 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi2x0yu | hi2ehdm | 1,635,225,798 | 1,635,215,080 | 8 | 5 | Scam!! | Definitely a scam and a common one at that, you'll send them the funds back only to see them do a charge back shortly after. Just ignore it. | 1 | 10,718 | 1.6 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi2dirl | hi2x0yu | 1,635,214,608 | 1,635,225,798 | 4 | 8 | It's a common scam to send money, have the receivee send the money back, then do a charge back thus getting double what was originally sent. Ignore it. Don't send any money, don't touch it, just pretend it's not there and it'll eventually disappear once they do a charge back. | Scam!! | 0 | 11,190 | 2 |
qfqnod | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Person I don't know sent money to my PayPal account and wants me to send it back. I am located in IL, they are located in AZ. They sent $500 to my PayPal account and then called me saying they had mistakenly sent me money and I needed to send it back. I immediately thought it was a scam, because that sounds like a scam. I made sarcastic comments and hung up on them. They called back and I said to stop trying to scam me. I rarely use PayPal (once in the last 5 years, I think). I looked up my password and accessed my account and there was $502 and change ($2 and change from some old transaction). They sent me two texts which made me think even more that it was a scam: "May you plx send that money back. It was imprtant (sic)." and "That money was imortant (sic). Plx send it back." The next day someone identifying themselves as a Phoenix (IIRC) police officer called me. He said he had someone there that was saying I was refusing to send them money. I said I got a phone call from someone claiming to have mistakenly sent me money, but that people use schemes like this all the time to get money out of people. He basically said I was stealing it. I said that I wouldn't talk to him any further without a lawyer. He laughed at me and called me an idiot. I told him how would I even know who he was. He said he told me who he was. He then said he would put me down as a suspect. I said ok. He said ok they would proceed with filing theft charges. I said thank you for your help and I hung up. I am trying to get in touch with PayPal now about it, but don't know exactly what I should do. Here are my concerns: If this is a real person who accidentally sent me money, I want them to have it back. It's not mine and I don't want to be enriched by someone else's misfortune, even if they did do it themselves. Could this be a money laundering scheme? What issues might arise from the phone call with the "cop"? Let me know what other information would be helpful. | hi2dirl | hi2ehdm | 1,635,214,608 | 1,635,215,080 | 4 | 5 | It's a common scam to send money, have the receivee send the money back, then do a charge back thus getting double what was originally sent. Ignore it. Don't send any money, don't touch it, just pretend it's not there and it'll eventually disappear once they do a charge back. | Definitely a scam and a common one at that, you'll send them the funds back only to see them do a charge back shortly after. Just ignore it. | 0 | 472 | 1.25 |
sju2du | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Accidentally sent a landlord rent after lease ended. Landlord is saying he wants to inspect property to see if there is any other damage before returning it to me. Title says most of it. We signed a year lease for a rental property. 6 months into the lease, we found a house to buy. The landlord wouldn’t let us out of our lease early, so he agreed that if we found someone else to take over the rest of the lease term, he’d let us out. A good friend of ours was looking for a place and the timing was perfect. He wanted to raise the rent several hundred dollars a month,which was not appealing to our replacement renter, so we suggested that he could keep our security deposit, which would offset the price difference. He agreed to that (all agreements are verbal here, or mentioned in email) He immediately took two months security deposit from the new renter and started the new lease. She moved in immediately, and as far as I’m concerned, our contract is complete. Ended Jan 1. So we moved… things were hectic for the whole month, and in the chaos we didn’t see the January rental payment come out automatically. (These are transfers from me to him, not drafts against the account). When it came time to make my first mortgage payment, I saw that there was a February transaction, and in a panic, scrolled back to see the January transaction as well. I immediately called the former landlord, and told him I’d spotted the error. He said that he’d noticed it in January, and was “‘meaning to call me about that”. I said that it was fine, but that I’d like for him to return my money. At that point, he started talking about things he identified on a walkthrough at the end of my lease that he felt were my responsibility. We had talked about that at the time, and the new renter agreed to handle them after she moved in. He went on to say that he was going to hold on to the accidental payment until he had a chance to go back in and see if those things had been fixed. I pointed out that we were no longer in a contract, that the money I accidentally sent him has nothing to do with that contract, and that he needs to send that back to me. He said he’d return the February money, but that he’d get back to me about January. At this point, he’s not planning on sending me anything until at least Sunday when he has a chance to review the place. I’m posting here so it probably goes without saying that he hasn’t returned any of my money. So I’m exploring my options I guess, and wondering if anyone has advice. I think I’m giving him until the end of the day to tell me his next steps, and then filing some claim with small claims court? Not sure what else I should do. My gut tells me not to accept a partial re-payment , but I don’t know if that matters. I’m honestly not sure how he feels like he has a right to hold this money, and take some part of it based on the state of the house that another renter has been in for over a month. Thanks in advance for any advice. | hvgzmya | hvgz5fl | 1,643,922,205 | 1,643,922,023 | 280 | 7 | Where is this taking place? General us advice is you’d sue him for the return and he’d be able to counter sue for any damages attributed to you. | small claims. | 1 | 182 | 40 |
sju2du | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Accidentally sent a landlord rent after lease ended. Landlord is saying he wants to inspect property to see if there is any other damage before returning it to me. Title says most of it. We signed a year lease for a rental property. 6 months into the lease, we found a house to buy. The landlord wouldn’t let us out of our lease early, so he agreed that if we found someone else to take over the rest of the lease term, he’d let us out. A good friend of ours was looking for a place and the timing was perfect. He wanted to raise the rent several hundred dollars a month,which was not appealing to our replacement renter, so we suggested that he could keep our security deposit, which would offset the price difference. He agreed to that (all agreements are verbal here, or mentioned in email) He immediately took two months security deposit from the new renter and started the new lease. She moved in immediately, and as far as I’m concerned, our contract is complete. Ended Jan 1. So we moved… things were hectic for the whole month, and in the chaos we didn’t see the January rental payment come out automatically. (These are transfers from me to him, not drafts against the account). When it came time to make my first mortgage payment, I saw that there was a February transaction, and in a panic, scrolled back to see the January transaction as well. I immediately called the former landlord, and told him I’d spotted the error. He said that he’d noticed it in January, and was “‘meaning to call me about that”. I said that it was fine, but that I’d like for him to return my money. At that point, he started talking about things he identified on a walkthrough at the end of my lease that he felt were my responsibility. We had talked about that at the time, and the new renter agreed to handle them after she moved in. He went on to say that he was going to hold on to the accidental payment until he had a chance to go back in and see if those things had been fixed. I pointed out that we were no longer in a contract, that the money I accidentally sent him has nothing to do with that contract, and that he needs to send that back to me. He said he’d return the February money, but that he’d get back to me about January. At this point, he’s not planning on sending me anything until at least Sunday when he has a chance to review the place. I’m posting here so it probably goes without saying that he hasn’t returned any of my money. So I’m exploring my options I guess, and wondering if anyone has advice. I think I’m giving him until the end of the day to tell me his next steps, and then filing some claim with small claims court? Not sure what else I should do. My gut tells me not to accept a partial re-payment , but I don’t know if that matters. I’m honestly not sure how he feels like he has a right to hold this money, and take some part of it based on the state of the house that another renter has been in for over a month. Thanks in advance for any advice. | hvjcy6u | hvgz5fl | 1,643,962,362 | 1,643,922,023 | 8 | 7 | File a police report for your lost money, and report you know who has your money (property). Landlord keeping the money is a misdemeanor. | small claims. | 1 | 40,339 | 1.142857 |
sju2du | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Accidentally sent a landlord rent after lease ended. Landlord is saying he wants to inspect property to see if there is any other damage before returning it to me. Title says most of it. We signed a year lease for a rental property. 6 months into the lease, we found a house to buy. The landlord wouldn’t let us out of our lease early, so he agreed that if we found someone else to take over the rest of the lease term, he’d let us out. A good friend of ours was looking for a place and the timing was perfect. He wanted to raise the rent several hundred dollars a month,which was not appealing to our replacement renter, so we suggested that he could keep our security deposit, which would offset the price difference. He agreed to that (all agreements are verbal here, or mentioned in email) He immediately took two months security deposit from the new renter and started the new lease. She moved in immediately, and as far as I’m concerned, our contract is complete. Ended Jan 1. So we moved… things were hectic for the whole month, and in the chaos we didn’t see the January rental payment come out automatically. (These are transfers from me to him, not drafts against the account). When it came time to make my first mortgage payment, I saw that there was a February transaction, and in a panic, scrolled back to see the January transaction as well. I immediately called the former landlord, and told him I’d spotted the error. He said that he’d noticed it in January, and was “‘meaning to call me about that”. I said that it was fine, but that I’d like for him to return my money. At that point, he started talking about things he identified on a walkthrough at the end of my lease that he felt were my responsibility. We had talked about that at the time, and the new renter agreed to handle them after she moved in. He went on to say that he was going to hold on to the accidental payment until he had a chance to go back in and see if those things had been fixed. I pointed out that we were no longer in a contract, that the money I accidentally sent him has nothing to do with that contract, and that he needs to send that back to me. He said he’d return the February money, but that he’d get back to me about January. At this point, he’s not planning on sending me anything until at least Sunday when he has a chance to review the place. I’m posting here so it probably goes without saying that he hasn’t returned any of my money. So I’m exploring my options I guess, and wondering if anyone has advice. I think I’m giving him until the end of the day to tell me his next steps, and then filing some claim with small claims court? Not sure what else I should do. My gut tells me not to accept a partial re-payment , but I don’t know if that matters. I’m honestly not sure how he feels like he has a right to hold this money, and take some part of it based on the state of the house that another renter has been in for over a month. Thanks in advance for any advice. | hviqjxr | hvjcy6u | 1,643,948,755 | 1,643,962,362 | 5 | 8 | Might depend on how the money was sent. Something like Zelle, Venmo, pay pal, you're at his mercy. Online bill pay, your bank prints a check and mails it. Landlord knew he wasn't owed any rent and should not have cashed the check. It's a dick move for sure. | File a police report for your lost money, and report you know who has your money (property). Landlord keeping the money is a misdemeanor. | 0 | 13,607 | 1.6 |
kgecp2 | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | (Michigan) Help! Landlord turned off my electricity since Thanksgiving and now my water, but won't give me an eviction notice! I dont know what to do at this point. I pay rent weekly in a house that has been converted into 3 units, since September 29th of this year. We never signed a lease. My workplace was shut down recently due to covid. On Thanksgiving I was 2 days late on rent and he told me to pack my stuff and leave. When I told him the CDC has stopped evictions and I need an actual eviction notice, he turned off all the power in my unit except the living room lights. No outlets work. The breaker box for the building is in the basement, and he is just flipping off the electricty to my unit. He previously called the cops on me (I'm assuming to kick me out), and of course they told him to evict me properly. He keeps turning off the electricity intermittently and when I message him he claims he wasnt aware and he will have an electrician out. Then he ignores me. I noticed the basement unit was open yesterday so I went and flipped the breakers back on to get my electricity back. He retaliated by turning off the water in my unit. He refuses to give me an eviction notice, and it seems like I am stuck until he does. I have offered to pay the back due rent but not any time when the electricity wasnt working, and he ignores me. I'm working with legal aid but I need water again NOW, not a week from now. He keeps lying and saying he is in the process of fixing these things to my unit but isn't, and it's getting worse. Someone please help! Thanks! | ggf50xh | ggf2d0n | 1,608,422,495 | 1,608,421,424 | 17 | 9 | Call the police. He is not allowed to turn off the electricity or water. If I were you, I would pay the rent. He isn't allowed to turn off your utilities regardless, but doing everything you can to uphold your end of the lease is in your best interests. | Call the police if your landlord attempts to illegally evict you, shutting off power, changing the locks etc | 1 | 1,071 | 1.888889 |
v2jqa5 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My landlord pays for my water and trash. The city took the trash bins so there’s no place to put trash and the city just turned off water. What to do? I’m a disabled veteran with PTSD/Major Depression/GAD/ADHD and I’ve been sober from alcohol and cocaine since December 12, 2021. I’ve had a broken window for over a year now. He’s unable to reach unless it’s about how I’m late on rent. I am currently caught up on rent with help from a mental health clinic I go to therapy at. The grass is a foot tall. There was also a leak from the 2nd floor through the first floor (apartment opposite of mine), and the ceiling has totally fallen out. And the previous tenants had left their stuff and a fridge full of old food which has rotted and there’s tons of bugs. I should call the health department but I am jobless waiting on VA claims for disability so if I lose my apartment I will be homeless. I’m also currently waiting to receive my dd-214 in the mail here. Which I never had a copy of. The amount of anxiety I have about my situation is exhausting. I have no money so I donate plasma and so I’m exhausted all the time. I really don’t want my cat and I on the streets. I have no car. What do I do? | iatz6te | iau6mv2 | 1,654,116,744 | 1,654,119,979 | 14 | 144 | Find a new VSO! Talk to your local American Legion, VFW, DAV, ect. to see if they have VSO's who can assist you. Reach out to your VA homeless program and Valor House, see if they can help you with housing, even short term. If you're concerned about your DD214 not finding you, rent a PO box and forward all your mail, starting today. If you leave your current housing, your mail will still have somewhere secure to be delivered to. | Firs things first: contact your nearest VA Medical Center and tell the switchboard operator you are at risk of homelessness. They will route your call appropriately. You can also call the number another post provided. Unfortunately Illinois does not allow rent witholding. However, it does allow for a tenant to pay for continuation of utility services and deduct the paid amount from rent if the lease states the landlord is responsible for the utility. It is also grounds for the tenant to terminate the lease without penalty. Running water and trash removal, in addition to the other items you're reporting, are all sanitation issues. Call you town/city Housing Inspector. | 0 | 3,235 | 10.285714 |
v2jqa5 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My landlord pays for my water and trash. The city took the trash bins so there’s no place to put trash and the city just turned off water. What to do? I’m a disabled veteran with PTSD/Major Depression/GAD/ADHD and I’ve been sober from alcohol and cocaine since December 12, 2021. I’ve had a broken window for over a year now. He’s unable to reach unless it’s about how I’m late on rent. I am currently caught up on rent with help from a mental health clinic I go to therapy at. The grass is a foot tall. There was also a leak from the 2nd floor through the first floor (apartment opposite of mine), and the ceiling has totally fallen out. And the previous tenants had left their stuff and a fridge full of old food which has rotted and there’s tons of bugs. I should call the health department but I am jobless waiting on VA claims for disability so if I lose my apartment I will be homeless. I’m also currently waiting to receive my dd-214 in the mail here. Which I never had a copy of. The amount of anxiety I have about my situation is exhausting. I have no money so I donate plasma and so I’m exhausted all the time. I really don’t want my cat and I on the streets. I have no car. What do I do? | iau6mv2 | iatzjly | 1,654,119,979 | 1,654,116,897 | 144 | 2 | Firs things first: contact your nearest VA Medical Center and tell the switchboard operator you are at risk of homelessness. They will route your call appropriately. You can also call the number another post provided. Unfortunately Illinois does not allow rent witholding. However, it does allow for a tenant to pay for continuation of utility services and deduct the paid amount from rent if the lease states the landlord is responsible for the utility. It is also grounds for the tenant to terminate the lease without penalty. Running water and trash removal, in addition to the other items you're reporting, are all sanitation issues. Call you town/city Housing Inspector. | I don’t know if I’m allowed to post links but try these guys too https://ilaflan.org/ | 1 | 3,082 | 72 |
v2jqa5 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My landlord pays for my water and trash. The city took the trash bins so there’s no place to put trash and the city just turned off water. What to do? I’m a disabled veteran with PTSD/Major Depression/GAD/ADHD and I’ve been sober from alcohol and cocaine since December 12, 2021. I’ve had a broken window for over a year now. He’s unable to reach unless it’s about how I’m late on rent. I am currently caught up on rent with help from a mental health clinic I go to therapy at. The grass is a foot tall. There was also a leak from the 2nd floor through the first floor (apartment opposite of mine), and the ceiling has totally fallen out. And the previous tenants had left their stuff and a fridge full of old food which has rotted and there’s tons of bugs. I should call the health department but I am jobless waiting on VA claims for disability so if I lose my apartment I will be homeless. I’m also currently waiting to receive my dd-214 in the mail here. Which I never had a copy of. The amount of anxiety I have about my situation is exhausting. I have no money so I donate plasma and so I’m exhausted all the time. I really don’t want my cat and I on the streets. I have no car. What do I do? | iatzjly | iaubez5 | 1,654,116,897 | 1,654,122,103 | 2 | 8 | I don’t know if I’m allowed to post links but try these guys too https://ilaflan.org/ | In addition to the other resources mentioned here there is 211, the United Way referral helpline. "Disabled vet on the verge of homelessness" is a demographic for which there will be at least *some* resources, which 211 can put you in touch with. | 0 | 5,206 | 4 |
v2jqa5 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My landlord pays for my water and trash. The city took the trash bins so there’s no place to put trash and the city just turned off water. What to do? I’m a disabled veteran with PTSD/Major Depression/GAD/ADHD and I’ve been sober from alcohol and cocaine since December 12, 2021. I’ve had a broken window for over a year now. He’s unable to reach unless it’s about how I’m late on rent. I am currently caught up on rent with help from a mental health clinic I go to therapy at. The grass is a foot tall. There was also a leak from the 2nd floor through the first floor (apartment opposite of mine), and the ceiling has totally fallen out. And the previous tenants had left their stuff and a fridge full of old food which has rotted and there’s tons of bugs. I should call the health department but I am jobless waiting on VA claims for disability so if I lose my apartment I will be homeless. I’m also currently waiting to receive my dd-214 in the mail here. Which I never had a copy of. The amount of anxiety I have about my situation is exhausting. I have no money so I donate plasma and so I’m exhausted all the time. I really don’t want my cat and I on the streets. I have no car. What do I do? | iav4faa | iatzjly | 1,654,135,907 | 1,654,116,897 | 4 | 2 | Have you contacted your local health department and/or building inspector? I am on the Board of Health In my city, and turned off water and lack of trash disposal would be a major health code violation. We would have an inspector at the property immediately and the owner would be fined each day they didn’t fix the situation. We also get concerned over tall grass because it’s a lure for rodents. Health departments hate rat infestations because they can get out of control very quickly. I’m not saying that you should lie but if you thought you saw a rat in the tall grass that would get some attention. I’d also suggest calling your local Veteran Affairs office. In my city, we have a great Veteran Affairs director who knows all the resources available to help vets. Good luck and thank you for your service. | I don’t know if I’m allowed to post links but try these guys too https://ilaflan.org/ | 1 | 19,010 | 2 |
v2jqa5 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My landlord pays for my water and trash. The city took the trash bins so there’s no place to put trash and the city just turned off water. What to do? I’m a disabled veteran with PTSD/Major Depression/GAD/ADHD and I’ve been sober from alcohol and cocaine since December 12, 2021. I’ve had a broken window for over a year now. He’s unable to reach unless it’s about how I’m late on rent. I am currently caught up on rent with help from a mental health clinic I go to therapy at. The grass is a foot tall. There was also a leak from the 2nd floor through the first floor (apartment opposite of mine), and the ceiling has totally fallen out. And the previous tenants had left their stuff and a fridge full of old food which has rotted and there’s tons of bugs. I should call the health department but I am jobless waiting on VA claims for disability so if I lose my apartment I will be homeless. I’m also currently waiting to receive my dd-214 in the mail here. Which I never had a copy of. The amount of anxiety I have about my situation is exhausting. I have no money so I donate plasma and so I’m exhausted all the time. I really don’t want my cat and I on the streets. I have no car. What do I do? | iatzjly | iaw8r5u | 1,654,116,897 | 1,654,164,852 | 2 | 3 | I don’t know if I’m allowed to post links but try these guys too https://ilaflan.org/ | Get in touch with the Illinois Department of Veterans Affairs. They are a separate organization from the VA but can do many of the same functions (they get a lot of their funding by the national government but are run by the state). They can get you a copy of your dd214, they have legal aid available for housing issues with Veterans, and they have services to prevent homelessness such as running the VA homes in your state. Separately, a general discharge primarily means that you are ineligible for the GI bill. You are still a Veteran, and have nearly ever other benefit that matters. You can work through the state VA or the national VA to try to get your discharge recharacterized. It can be a lengthy process. Your five meter target is housing. Work through both VAs simultaneously. Get dd214. Get free legal assistance for the housing issue. Your ten meter targets is money. Both VAs have employment programs to find work tailored to your disability. They should also be able to help you with unemployment benefits. | 0 | 47,955 | 1.5 |
v2jqa5 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My landlord pays for my water and trash. The city took the trash bins so there’s no place to put trash and the city just turned off water. What to do? I’m a disabled veteran with PTSD/Major Depression/GAD/ADHD and I’ve been sober from alcohol and cocaine since December 12, 2021. I’ve had a broken window for over a year now. He’s unable to reach unless it’s about how I’m late on rent. I am currently caught up on rent with help from a mental health clinic I go to therapy at. The grass is a foot tall. There was also a leak from the 2nd floor through the first floor (apartment opposite of mine), and the ceiling has totally fallen out. And the previous tenants had left their stuff and a fridge full of old food which has rotted and there’s tons of bugs. I should call the health department but I am jobless waiting on VA claims for disability so if I lose my apartment I will be homeless. I’m also currently waiting to receive my dd-214 in the mail here. Which I never had a copy of. The amount of anxiety I have about my situation is exhausting. I have no money so I donate plasma and so I’m exhausted all the time. I really don’t want my cat and I on the streets. I have no car. What do I do? | iaw8r5u | iavane6 | 1,654,164,852 | 1,654,139,087 | 3 | 2 | Get in touch with the Illinois Department of Veterans Affairs. They are a separate organization from the VA but can do many of the same functions (they get a lot of their funding by the national government but are run by the state). They can get you a copy of your dd214, they have legal aid available for housing issues with Veterans, and they have services to prevent homelessness such as running the VA homes in your state. Separately, a general discharge primarily means that you are ineligible for the GI bill. You are still a Veteran, and have nearly ever other benefit that matters. You can work through the state VA or the national VA to try to get your discharge recharacterized. It can be a lengthy process. Your five meter target is housing. Work through both VAs simultaneously. Get dd214. Get free legal assistance for the housing issue. Your ten meter targets is money. Both VAs have employment programs to find work tailored to your disability. They should also be able to help you with unemployment benefits. | Don't see this anywhere else, but document what you can. Photos, descriptions, times, dates, calls/contacts, etc, anything . It'll help with the other steps other redditors mentioned, especially when official support comes in. | 1 | 25,765 | 1.5 |
v2jqa5 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | My landlord pays for my water and trash. The city took the trash bins so there’s no place to put trash and the city just turned off water. What to do? I’m a disabled veteran with PTSD/Major Depression/GAD/ADHD and I’ve been sober from alcohol and cocaine since December 12, 2021. I’ve had a broken window for over a year now. He’s unable to reach unless it’s about how I’m late on rent. I am currently caught up on rent with help from a mental health clinic I go to therapy at. The grass is a foot tall. There was also a leak from the 2nd floor through the first floor (apartment opposite of mine), and the ceiling has totally fallen out. And the previous tenants had left their stuff and a fridge full of old food which has rotted and there’s tons of bugs. I should call the health department but I am jobless waiting on VA claims for disability so if I lose my apartment I will be homeless. I’m also currently waiting to receive my dd-214 in the mail here. Which I never had a copy of. The amount of anxiety I have about my situation is exhausting. I have no money so I donate plasma and so I’m exhausted all the time. I really don’t want my cat and I on the streets. I have no car. What do I do? | iaw8r5u | iavjuvf | 1,654,164,852 | 1,654,144,437 | 3 | 2 | Get in touch with the Illinois Department of Veterans Affairs. They are a separate organization from the VA but can do many of the same functions (they get a lot of their funding by the national government but are run by the state). They can get you a copy of your dd214, they have legal aid available for housing issues with Veterans, and they have services to prevent homelessness such as running the VA homes in your state. Separately, a general discharge primarily means that you are ineligible for the GI bill. You are still a Veteran, and have nearly ever other benefit that matters. You can work through the state VA or the national VA to try to get your discharge recharacterized. It can be a lengthy process. Your five meter target is housing. Work through both VAs simultaneously. Get dd214. Get free legal assistance for the housing issue. Your ten meter targets is money. Both VAs have employment programs to find work tailored to your disability. They should also be able to help you with unemployment benefits. | How were you discharged without your dd-214? You are supposed to receive that before you leave your final command. | 1 | 20,415 | 1.5 |
t6oeoz | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Can my landlord turn the water off because our water bill is too high? (KY, USA) There is something wrong with the water where I live that is causing a very high water bill— I’m not sure if it is our problem or the neighbors’ problem, as we’re in a duplex— but my landlord is threatening to turn our water off if it isn’t resolved. Is she allowed to do that? | hzd0n7z | hzd099z | 1,646,425,514 | 1,646,425,362 | 18 | 9 | >There is something wrong with the water where I live that is causing a very high water bill An unusually high water bill is often a sign of a pluming leak. ​ >but my landlord is threatening to turn our water off if it isn’t resolved. Your landlord is the one who should be taking steps to resolve this. A landlord is normally responsible for plumbing repairs. The landlord can charge you for the cost of the repair if you were somehow responsible for the damage. For example, if you were hanging a picture on the wall and somehow drove a nail through a water line, the landlord can charge you for the repair. If you haven't caused any leaks that you know of, and you haven't started using an unusually large amount of water, then it's not really up to you to resolve this. If I was in your situation, I would let the landlord know that you have no idea why the water bill is so high, but you've been told that this could be caused by a water leak. The landlord should hire a plumber to check for leaks. Tell the landlord this in writing (could be text or email) and be sure to save a copy. Save any texts or emails that the landlord has sent you about this. This serves as evidence that the landlord knew of the problem. This makes it more difficult for the landlord to try to blame you if the water bill remains excessive or if there is a leak and it causes damage. (Am not a lawyer or a plumber). | No, she can't. Wtf, "I'm gonna turn your water off instead of locating and fixing the very obvious leak". Tf is wrong with her? | 1 | 152 | 2 |
o5hei9 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Landlord keeps plugging in water fountain without my permission on my front lawn while I pay for the water/electricity I'm in the US, in California. I signed a lease to rent a single bedroom in a house. My only house mate gave a 30day notice, effectively making me the only one left in the house. My landlord was paying for the water up until now (we had a verbal agreement that he would pay for it until the third bedroom was rented out, but he went back on his word). After I transferred the water bill in my name, I decided that I no longer wanted the fountain in the front lawn to be running since I was paying for the electricity/water. I unplugged the fountain and the next day I saw that the landlord had plugged it back in. He comes over every day for 'landscaping' sometimes late in the evening (8pm). The next day I unplugged the fountain and emptied the water in the bowl of the fountain. That evening I saw the landlord refilling the water, so I came out and confronted him about it. He immediately started yelling at me and telling me that the fountains are part of a 'common area'. He said that if they were not running that would damage the fountains. I responded by telling him that I don't intend on running the fountains because it's costing me money, and it's not mentioned anywhere in the lease that I have to maintain the fountains. He proceeded to yell at me (pretty much harassing me) and said a bunch of stuff that made no sense, for example that he would bill me if the fountains were unplugged. ​ Do I legally have to run the fountain? Can the landlord legally keep plugging it back in? This is just one incident of many where the landlord has yelled at me. I feel uncomfortable living here and it's weird to me that the landlord comes every single day (I feel like I'm being watched). Can I use any of this as grounds to break my lease and move out? | h2ngsrr | h2nqgdy | 1,624,369,957 | 1,624,374,570 | 47 | 122 | If turning it off causes damage, then the LL may be able to bill you for that damage when you move out. However, I don't believe that turning off a fountain will damage it. You should protect yourself against the possibility that he will bill you for it anyway by taking note of the condition of the fountain before you move out. The reply that suggested this is a constructive eviction is incorrect. You cannot break your lease and move out just because you and your LL disagree, or because you don't like him, or because he comes around a lot. You may have legal recourse to recoup the cost of running the fountain from your LL, but it would involve going to court. Your LL is correct that this is a common area, and that turning it off is depriving other residents of a common feature. But you're correct that you aren't responsible to pay for it or maintain it if you haven't agreed to do so; maintaining that feature is your landlord's responsibility, not yours. | It is not uncommon for one apartment in a smaller building to also have the "common areas" on it's meter. I do not know the rules in CA, but in some places this means the LL must pay the bill, and include the electric in the set rent. In others it must simply be disclosed, prorated, etc. Look up your rights on that front, but it might get confusing if you are just renting a single room. It stands to reason that if you are renting a single room, not the entire house, you have no business paying to heat, power, or water the entire house. If the landlord can not find renters for the other rooms to cover his expenses that is his problem not yours. I think he is taking advantage of you to cover his losses on utilities because he can not find tenants. As an aside, when you do rent an entire house, there are often requirements like "the heat must be set above X degrees" or "the basement dehumidifier must be kept running" even "The fountains must be kept flowing" in the rental agreement to prevent damage like frozen pipes. | 0 | 4,613 | 2.595745 |
o5hei9 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Landlord keeps plugging in water fountain without my permission on my front lawn while I pay for the water/electricity I'm in the US, in California. I signed a lease to rent a single bedroom in a house. My only house mate gave a 30day notice, effectively making me the only one left in the house. My landlord was paying for the water up until now (we had a verbal agreement that he would pay for it until the third bedroom was rented out, but he went back on his word). After I transferred the water bill in my name, I decided that I no longer wanted the fountain in the front lawn to be running since I was paying for the electricity/water. I unplugged the fountain and the next day I saw that the landlord had plugged it back in. He comes over every day for 'landscaping' sometimes late in the evening (8pm). The next day I unplugged the fountain and emptied the water in the bowl of the fountain. That evening I saw the landlord refilling the water, so I came out and confronted him about it. He immediately started yelling at me and telling me that the fountains are part of a 'common area'. He said that if they were not running that would damage the fountains. I responded by telling him that I don't intend on running the fountains because it's costing me money, and it's not mentioned anywhere in the lease that I have to maintain the fountains. He proceeded to yell at me (pretty much harassing me) and said a bunch of stuff that made no sense, for example that he would bill me if the fountains were unplugged. ​ Do I legally have to run the fountain? Can the landlord legally keep plugging it back in? This is just one incident of many where the landlord has yelled at me. I feel uncomfortable living here and it's weird to me that the landlord comes every single day (I feel like I'm being watched). Can I use any of this as grounds to break my lease and move out? | h2nqgdy | h2n5jdy | 1,624,374,570 | 1,624,363,537 | 122 | 17 | It is not uncommon for one apartment in a smaller building to also have the "common areas" on it's meter. I do not know the rules in CA, but in some places this means the LL must pay the bill, and include the electric in the set rent. In others it must simply be disclosed, prorated, etc. Look up your rights on that front, but it might get confusing if you are just renting a single room. It stands to reason that if you are renting a single room, not the entire house, you have no business paying to heat, power, or water the entire house. If the landlord can not find renters for the other rooms to cover his expenses that is his problem not yours. I think he is taking advantage of you to cover his losses on utilities because he can not find tenants. As an aside, when you do rent an entire house, there are often requirements like "the heat must be set above X degrees" or "the basement dehumidifier must be kept running" even "The fountains must be kept flowing" in the rental agreement to prevent damage like frozen pipes. | Seems like if it's that important to him he could give you a discount in exchange for the fountain's electric usage | 1 | 11,033 | 7.176471 |
o5hei9 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Landlord keeps plugging in water fountain without my permission on my front lawn while I pay for the water/electricity I'm in the US, in California. I signed a lease to rent a single bedroom in a house. My only house mate gave a 30day notice, effectively making me the only one left in the house. My landlord was paying for the water up until now (we had a verbal agreement that he would pay for it until the third bedroom was rented out, but he went back on his word). After I transferred the water bill in my name, I decided that I no longer wanted the fountain in the front lawn to be running since I was paying for the electricity/water. I unplugged the fountain and the next day I saw that the landlord had plugged it back in. He comes over every day for 'landscaping' sometimes late in the evening (8pm). The next day I unplugged the fountain and emptied the water in the bowl of the fountain. That evening I saw the landlord refilling the water, so I came out and confronted him about it. He immediately started yelling at me and telling me that the fountains are part of a 'common area'. He said that if they were not running that would damage the fountains. I responded by telling him that I don't intend on running the fountains because it's costing me money, and it's not mentioned anywhere in the lease that I have to maintain the fountains. He proceeded to yell at me (pretty much harassing me) and said a bunch of stuff that made no sense, for example that he would bill me if the fountains were unplugged. ​ Do I legally have to run the fountain? Can the landlord legally keep plugging it back in? This is just one incident of many where the landlord has yelled at me. I feel uncomfortable living here and it's weird to me that the landlord comes every single day (I feel like I'm being watched). Can I use any of this as grounds to break my lease and move out? | h2ngsrr | h2n5jdy | 1,624,369,957 | 1,624,363,537 | 47 | 17 | If turning it off causes damage, then the LL may be able to bill you for that damage when you move out. However, I don't believe that turning off a fountain will damage it. You should protect yourself against the possibility that he will bill you for it anyway by taking note of the condition of the fountain before you move out. The reply that suggested this is a constructive eviction is incorrect. You cannot break your lease and move out just because you and your LL disagree, or because you don't like him, or because he comes around a lot. You may have legal recourse to recoup the cost of running the fountain from your LL, but it would involve going to court. Your LL is correct that this is a common area, and that turning it off is depriving other residents of a common feature. But you're correct that you aren't responsible to pay for it or maintain it if you haven't agreed to do so; maintaining that feature is your landlord's responsibility, not yours. | Seems like if it's that important to him he could give you a discount in exchange for the fountain's electric usage | 1 | 6,420 | 2.764706 |
o5hei9 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Landlord keeps plugging in water fountain without my permission on my front lawn while I pay for the water/electricity I'm in the US, in California. I signed a lease to rent a single bedroom in a house. My only house mate gave a 30day notice, effectively making me the only one left in the house. My landlord was paying for the water up until now (we had a verbal agreement that he would pay for it until the third bedroom was rented out, but he went back on his word). After I transferred the water bill in my name, I decided that I no longer wanted the fountain in the front lawn to be running since I was paying for the electricity/water. I unplugged the fountain and the next day I saw that the landlord had plugged it back in. He comes over every day for 'landscaping' sometimes late in the evening (8pm). The next day I unplugged the fountain and emptied the water in the bowl of the fountain. That evening I saw the landlord refilling the water, so I came out and confronted him about it. He immediately started yelling at me and telling me that the fountains are part of a 'common area'. He said that if they were not running that would damage the fountains. I responded by telling him that I don't intend on running the fountains because it's costing me money, and it's not mentioned anywhere in the lease that I have to maintain the fountains. He proceeded to yell at me (pretty much harassing me) and said a bunch of stuff that made no sense, for example that he would bill me if the fountains were unplugged. ​ Do I legally have to run the fountain? Can the landlord legally keep plugging it back in? This is just one incident of many where the landlord has yelled at me. I feel uncomfortable living here and it's weird to me that the landlord comes every single day (I feel like I'm being watched). Can I use any of this as grounds to break my lease and move out? | h2oazat | h2oldrk | 1,624,383,824 | 1,624,388,471 | 9 | 10 | What does your lease say about utilities? If you’re renting one room of three you should be paying at most 1/3 of common area maintenance. If a unit is unoccupied that doesn’t mean you assume the financial burden. | Not a lawyer but a former renter from California with a problematic Landlady who liked to show up unannounced, enter my apartment without permission/advanced notice, etc. There are a few options you should look into because it sounds like your landlord is intense. This is a link for a guide to California Tenants rights and there are likely some seminars or clinics you can attend in your county regarding tenant/landlord issues to help you resolve things. Call the california bar association and ask and look through your library, sometimes they offer community stuff like this. It might be wise to start looking for a new place anyhow, landlords who lurk like that are generally problematic human beings anyhow. | 0 | 4,647 | 1.111111 |
o5hei9 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Landlord keeps plugging in water fountain without my permission on my front lawn while I pay for the water/electricity I'm in the US, in California. I signed a lease to rent a single bedroom in a house. My only house mate gave a 30day notice, effectively making me the only one left in the house. My landlord was paying for the water up until now (we had a verbal agreement that he would pay for it until the third bedroom was rented out, but he went back on his word). After I transferred the water bill in my name, I decided that I no longer wanted the fountain in the front lawn to be running since I was paying for the electricity/water. I unplugged the fountain and the next day I saw that the landlord had plugged it back in. He comes over every day for 'landscaping' sometimes late in the evening (8pm). The next day I unplugged the fountain and emptied the water in the bowl of the fountain. That evening I saw the landlord refilling the water, so I came out and confronted him about it. He immediately started yelling at me and telling me that the fountains are part of a 'common area'. He said that if they were not running that would damage the fountains. I responded by telling him that I don't intend on running the fountains because it's costing me money, and it's not mentioned anywhere in the lease that I have to maintain the fountains. He proceeded to yell at me (pretty much harassing me) and said a bunch of stuff that made no sense, for example that he would bill me if the fountains were unplugged. ​ Do I legally have to run the fountain? Can the landlord legally keep plugging it back in? This is just one incident of many where the landlord has yelled at me. I feel uncomfortable living here and it's weird to me that the landlord comes every single day (I feel like I'm being watched). Can I use any of this as grounds to break my lease and move out? | h2oldrk | h2o7qjh | 1,624,388,471 | 1,624,382,383 | 10 | 5 | Not a lawyer but a former renter from California with a problematic Landlady who liked to show up unannounced, enter my apartment without permission/advanced notice, etc. There are a few options you should look into because it sounds like your landlord is intense. This is a link for a guide to California Tenants rights and there are likely some seminars or clinics you can attend in your county regarding tenant/landlord issues to help you resolve things. Call the california bar association and ask and look through your library, sometimes they offer community stuff like this. It might be wise to start looking for a new place anyhow, landlords who lurk like that are generally problematic human beings anyhow. | Not a lawyer, but given the droughts in CA, isn't this illegal regardless? I thought there were pretty strict water bans in pace (although they may not apply to where you're at?) | 1 | 6,088 | 2 |
o5hei9 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Landlord keeps plugging in water fountain without my permission on my front lawn while I pay for the water/electricity I'm in the US, in California. I signed a lease to rent a single bedroom in a house. My only house mate gave a 30day notice, effectively making me the only one left in the house. My landlord was paying for the water up until now (we had a verbal agreement that he would pay for it until the third bedroom was rented out, but he went back on his word). After I transferred the water bill in my name, I decided that I no longer wanted the fountain in the front lawn to be running since I was paying for the electricity/water. I unplugged the fountain and the next day I saw that the landlord had plugged it back in. He comes over every day for 'landscaping' sometimes late in the evening (8pm). The next day I unplugged the fountain and emptied the water in the bowl of the fountain. That evening I saw the landlord refilling the water, so I came out and confronted him about it. He immediately started yelling at me and telling me that the fountains are part of a 'common area'. He said that if they were not running that would damage the fountains. I responded by telling him that I don't intend on running the fountains because it's costing me money, and it's not mentioned anywhere in the lease that I have to maintain the fountains. He proceeded to yell at me (pretty much harassing me) and said a bunch of stuff that made no sense, for example that he would bill me if the fountains were unplugged. ​ Do I legally have to run the fountain? Can the landlord legally keep plugging it back in? This is just one incident of many where the landlord has yelled at me. I feel uncomfortable living here and it's weird to me that the landlord comes every single day (I feel like I'm being watched). Can I use any of this as grounds to break my lease and move out? | h2o7qjh | h2oazat | 1,624,382,383 | 1,624,383,824 | 5 | 9 | Not a lawyer, but given the droughts in CA, isn't this illegal regardless? I thought there were pretty strict water bans in pace (although they may not apply to where you're at?) | What does your lease say about utilities? If you’re renting one room of three you should be paying at most 1/3 of common area maintenance. If a unit is unoccupied that doesn’t mean you assume the financial burden. | 0 | 1,441 | 1.8 |
us9mgf | legaladvice_train | 0.91 | Landlord "fixed" freezing pipes issue by installing pumps on hot water tank. Since then my electric usage has doubled. I keep getting $300+ electric bills because the hot water heater is constantly running. | i92dbav | i9266um | 1,652,876,825 | 1,652,872,422 | 30 | 13 | What state are you in? Are you renting a whole house, or an apartment? Does the water heater serve more than just your apartment? If it serves more than your apartment/residence, it's illegal. One tenant cannot be made to pay for something used by all tenants (such as lighting in the hallway outside or parking lot lights). | You’re not quite in the legal phase yet. You need more information from an electrician and water heater professional. Although it is frustrating to be in your place right now, more facts are needed. | 1 | 4,403 | 2.307692 |
8l586w | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | My Landlord has turned off the hot water and unplugged all the large appliances in my house and threw out all the food and took the liquor in the fridge and freezer. What can I do? (NB, Canada) My roommates and I are not living in the house consistently through the summer but will be in the house off and on. The House is in a student town and I'm pretty sure the landlord is trying to pocket the money from our hydro. We've already sent an email saying this is not acceptable and threatening to go to the rentalsmen if the issue isn't cleared up. Any advice would be great! | dzd1sej | dzcxkup | 1,526,950,204 | 1,526,945,595 | 36 | 16 | Contact the police via the non-emergency number regarding the theft of food and liquor. If there's no evidence (security camera footage, admission from the landlord, etc) they may be limited in what they can do, but it's worth a try. If you can't turn the hot water back on yourself, and the landlord refuses to comply, contact the New Brunswick Residential Tenancies Tribunal. You may wish to get a cheap security camera that records anyone entering your suite with the time and date, so that you have evidence if your landlord enters illegally again. In BC, you can provide the footage to the Residential Tenancy Branch, and they may allow you to change the locks. NB probably has a similar law. Is there anything to the story that we're missing? I've had some crap landlords, but never had one unplug my fridge and help himself to my food. | Did he/she tell you 24h in advance before walking into the house? | 1 | 4,609 | 2.25 |
cdse2g | legaladvice_train | 0.88 | [Nyc] I've been under the impression my landlord has been paying our electric bill every month, but just got a notice that we have an outstanding balance of nearly $900 and they're going to turn everything off soon Ok please dont yell at me guys because I realize in retrospect theres a lot of things wrong here. I'm 20 years old and this is my first time living on my own so I now realize some of the mistakes I made. But here's the situation: I'm subletting a room from this guy, C. The apartments lease is in his name, he does not live here, however. It is just me and two other girls. We all moved in at separate times, but we all pay C our agreed upon rent (which is way more than what the apartment costs, hes making a profit. Which fine I get it, it's his side hustle. So long as I dont have issues, I dont mind) well our utilities was a part of our rent payments. So we just give him $X every month and he takes care of wifi and gas/electric. Well, from December-March I had a girl from Russia as my roommate. He put the electric bill in her name because she needed proof of residency or something along those lines. But as far as she knew, he was still in charge of paying the bill. In March she moved back to Russia and he had another girl move in. Everytnjngs been great, no issues. Well I've noticed that my old roommate was still getting letters from conedison. I've been holding on to them but I never opened them because i know it's illegal to open someone else's mail. Today i saw another letter and i dont know, I felt compelled to open it and it was a final notice letter saying theres an outstanding payment of $850. wtf that's like months of missed payments. And so I texted her letting her know that she has all this debt in her name. And of course I called C to let him know about this because he said he was paying our electric. Anyway, he said he'll take care of it. But I guess the point of my post is to ask if there is anything I can really do about this if he doesnt pay? I talked to my other roommates and we are kind of kicking ourselves because we dont have anything in writing saying that we agreed our rent price covers our utilities. Also, obviously we are subletting the apartment from him illegally. Are we basically just screwed? Sorry if this is hard to understand I'm so sick I cant even type coherently so please ask if you need anything clarified | etwgwiy | etwq5w7 | 1,563,269,841 | 1,563,280,850 | 6 | 8 | If it gets cut off let him know you guys are leaving unless it gets back on. | Do you have a lease or anything in writting? Does it state that the utilities are covered? Electric, Gas, and\or water and sewer? Cable or Internet? I assume you are not paying for any of those? > we are subletting the apartment from him illegally. Are we basically just screwed? Why do you think its illegal? Even in the worse case, you are a tenant on a month to month term, and in that you have renters rights. Especially in NYC. | 0 | 11,009 | 1.333333 |
8u83cu | legaladvice_train | 0.74 | [TN] I am moving into a new residence. My new landlord is demanding I turn on the electricity for them to clean the residence 2 weeks before we move in. What are my options and rights? Thank you for your help. I have currently rented at my current house for 3 years. My current land lord sold this house and we have to be out of here by July 13. We scrambled to find a new place and found a new house. We are moving into our new home July 7, but our new landlord is demanding that we turn the power on early for her to clean the house. Obviously, me having to pay for her to use the electricity and water to clean up the house in preparation for our move in is total BS. I tried to play dumb and sent the following text message. "They won't let me turn it on until I move in. Since you are the property owner of the property you can surely get it put in your name for the days you need to clean. They (the electric company) told me since my move in date is the 7th that is when they can turn it on for me. She responded "Radicalvic1 (she used my first name like she's my mom. That really pissed me off) I hate to inform you but that's not how it works! I told you both that utilities needed to be turned on in your name. I already have other tenants with utilities on in there name waiting for us to clean up. That's not gonna fly with me." Anyway, here is the issues. I am extremely upset that I am required to pay for them to use the water and electricity to clean the apartment weeks before we move in. I don't want to push too hard. Where we live good, affordable housing is hard to come by. I am worried that she will decide to cancel the lease and return our deposit. Considering we have to be out of our current house with all of our stuff by July 13, this would be a massive problem. The lease I signed has no mention that I am required to turn on the power and water beforehand so that they can clean the house for us. My current plan is to record all of the information and cost of their cleaning. I will then take them to small claims court in a year when our lease is up. I can already tell I am going to have issues with this land lord, but I don't have any other options at this point in time. I am so frustrated by this situation and my new landlord. What are my rights and options? Thank you for your answers, I apologize if this is long. | e1ddm2m | e1ddcuj | 1,530,096,472 | 1,530,095,972 | 69 | 5 | People in this subreddit love to give the advice "look at the contract and tell the landlord to fuck off". And I may get downvoted for this. But unlike many, I'm a real lawyer. I like to talk to my clients about the cost benefit analysis of things. How much is two weeks of electricity going to cost? $50 at most? Are you willing to have her cancel the lease (which may be possible per the lease terms) over $50? Do you want to live there? Do you want to have a good relationship with your landlord? How much time, effort, and energy will it cost you to fight it? | Have you tried asking for a discount on next month's rent in exchange for signing up for utilities early? | 1 | 500 | 13.8 |
8u83cu | legaladvice_train | 0.74 | [TN] I am moving into a new residence. My new landlord is demanding I turn on the electricity for them to clean the residence 2 weeks before we move in. What are my options and rights? Thank you for your help. I have currently rented at my current house for 3 years. My current land lord sold this house and we have to be out of here by July 13. We scrambled to find a new place and found a new house. We are moving into our new home July 7, but our new landlord is demanding that we turn the power on early for her to clean the house. Obviously, me having to pay for her to use the electricity and water to clean up the house in preparation for our move in is total BS. I tried to play dumb and sent the following text message. "They won't let me turn it on until I move in. Since you are the property owner of the property you can surely get it put in your name for the days you need to clean. They (the electric company) told me since my move in date is the 7th that is when they can turn it on for me. She responded "Radicalvic1 (she used my first name like she's my mom. That really pissed me off) I hate to inform you but that's not how it works! I told you both that utilities needed to be turned on in your name. I already have other tenants with utilities on in there name waiting for us to clean up. That's not gonna fly with me." Anyway, here is the issues. I am extremely upset that I am required to pay for them to use the water and electricity to clean the apartment weeks before we move in. I don't want to push too hard. Where we live good, affordable housing is hard to come by. I am worried that she will decide to cancel the lease and return our deposit. Considering we have to be out of our current house with all of our stuff by July 13, this would be a massive problem. The lease I signed has no mention that I am required to turn on the power and water beforehand so that they can clean the house for us. My current plan is to record all of the information and cost of their cleaning. I will then take them to small claims court in a year when our lease is up. I can already tell I am going to have issues with this land lord, but I don't have any other options at this point in time. I am so frustrated by this situation and my new landlord. What are my rights and options? Thank you for your answers, I apologize if this is long. | e1ddm2m | e1db4cs | 1,530,096,472 | 1,530,091,179 | 69 | 4 | People in this subreddit love to give the advice "look at the contract and tell the landlord to fuck off". And I may get downvoted for this. But unlike many, I'm a real lawyer. I like to talk to my clients about the cost benefit analysis of things. How much is two weeks of electricity going to cost? $50 at most? Are you willing to have her cancel the lease (which may be possible per the lease terms) over $50? Do you want to live there? Do you want to have a good relationship with your landlord? How much time, effort, and energy will it cost you to fight it? | If it’s not on the lease, tell em to jog on. | 1 | 5,293 | 17.25 |
8u83cu | legaladvice_train | 0.74 | [TN] I am moving into a new residence. My new landlord is demanding I turn on the electricity for them to clean the residence 2 weeks before we move in. What are my options and rights? Thank you for your help. I have currently rented at my current house for 3 years. My current land lord sold this house and we have to be out of here by July 13. We scrambled to find a new place and found a new house. We are moving into our new home July 7, but our new landlord is demanding that we turn the power on early for her to clean the house. Obviously, me having to pay for her to use the electricity and water to clean up the house in preparation for our move in is total BS. I tried to play dumb and sent the following text message. "They won't let me turn it on until I move in. Since you are the property owner of the property you can surely get it put in your name for the days you need to clean. They (the electric company) told me since my move in date is the 7th that is when they can turn it on for me. She responded "Radicalvic1 (she used my first name like she's my mom. That really pissed me off) I hate to inform you but that's not how it works! I told you both that utilities needed to be turned on in your name. I already have other tenants with utilities on in there name waiting for us to clean up. That's not gonna fly with me." Anyway, here is the issues. I am extremely upset that I am required to pay for them to use the water and electricity to clean the apartment weeks before we move in. I don't want to push too hard. Where we live good, affordable housing is hard to come by. I am worried that she will decide to cancel the lease and return our deposit. Considering we have to be out of our current house with all of our stuff by July 13, this would be a massive problem. The lease I signed has no mention that I am required to turn on the power and water beforehand so that they can clean the house for us. My current plan is to record all of the information and cost of their cleaning. I will then take them to small claims court in a year when our lease is up. I can already tell I am going to have issues with this land lord, but I don't have any other options at this point in time. I am so frustrated by this situation and my new landlord. What are my rights and options? Thank you for your answers, I apologize if this is long. | e1dfayy | e1dli9u | 1,530,099,485 | 1,530,107,104 | 6 | 18 | You have a couple options. 1. Tell them the lease dies not state that you need to turn the power on for them to clean. 2. Turn the power on and "suck it up". 3. Tell them the lease does not state you need to do it but you will and deduct the prorated amount from,the first months rent. | There is a lot of debate in the comments of this thread. You obviously want the house and don’t want to have to find another. So telling the LL you won’t cooperate is not a good option. Instead you want to make sure landlord reimburses you for this. I would respond to LL with something like: “Dear Landlord, Despite no requirement in our lease for me to do so, in the interests of starting out our tenancy on good terms with you, we will agree to turn on the utilities early for you if you agree to reimburse us as a credit against rent due a pro-rated amount of the first month’s utility charges based on the actual first month’s bill and the number of days that the utilities were turned on prior to our move-in date as a proportion of the number of days in the first billing period. In other words, we don’t want to incur utility costs associated with your pre-cleaning and preparation of the unit as these are not our costs to bear pursuant to the existing lease. Please prepare and execute a binding addendum to our lease and email it to me. We will gladly countersign and work with the utility companies to get everything turned on timely.” | 0 | 7,619 | 3 |
8u83cu | legaladvice_train | 0.74 | [TN] I am moving into a new residence. My new landlord is demanding I turn on the electricity for them to clean the residence 2 weeks before we move in. What are my options and rights? Thank you for your help. I have currently rented at my current house for 3 years. My current land lord sold this house and we have to be out of here by July 13. We scrambled to find a new place and found a new house. We are moving into our new home July 7, but our new landlord is demanding that we turn the power on early for her to clean the house. Obviously, me having to pay for her to use the electricity and water to clean up the house in preparation for our move in is total BS. I tried to play dumb and sent the following text message. "They won't let me turn it on until I move in. Since you are the property owner of the property you can surely get it put in your name for the days you need to clean. They (the electric company) told me since my move in date is the 7th that is when they can turn it on for me. She responded "Radicalvic1 (she used my first name like she's my mom. That really pissed me off) I hate to inform you but that's not how it works! I told you both that utilities needed to be turned on in your name. I already have other tenants with utilities on in there name waiting for us to clean up. That's not gonna fly with me." Anyway, here is the issues. I am extremely upset that I am required to pay for them to use the water and electricity to clean the apartment weeks before we move in. I don't want to push too hard. Where we live good, affordable housing is hard to come by. I am worried that she will decide to cancel the lease and return our deposit. Considering we have to be out of our current house with all of our stuff by July 13, this would be a massive problem. The lease I signed has no mention that I am required to turn on the power and water beforehand so that they can clean the house for us. My current plan is to record all of the information and cost of their cleaning. I will then take them to small claims court in a year when our lease is up. I can already tell I am going to have issues with this land lord, but I don't have any other options at this point in time. I am so frustrated by this situation and my new landlord. What are my rights and options? Thank you for your answers, I apologize if this is long. | e1dli9u | e1ddcuj | 1,530,107,104 | 1,530,095,972 | 18 | 5 | There is a lot of debate in the comments of this thread. You obviously want the house and don’t want to have to find another. So telling the LL you won’t cooperate is not a good option. Instead you want to make sure landlord reimburses you for this. I would respond to LL with something like: “Dear Landlord, Despite no requirement in our lease for me to do so, in the interests of starting out our tenancy on good terms with you, we will agree to turn on the utilities early for you if you agree to reimburse us as a credit against rent due a pro-rated amount of the first month’s utility charges based on the actual first month’s bill and the number of days that the utilities were turned on prior to our move-in date as a proportion of the number of days in the first billing period. In other words, we don’t want to incur utility costs associated with your pre-cleaning and preparation of the unit as these are not our costs to bear pursuant to the existing lease. Please prepare and execute a binding addendum to our lease and email it to me. We will gladly countersign and work with the utility companies to get everything turned on timely.” | Have you tried asking for a discount on next month's rent in exchange for signing up for utilities early? | 1 | 11,132 | 3.6 |
8u83cu | legaladvice_train | 0.74 | [TN] I am moving into a new residence. My new landlord is demanding I turn on the electricity for them to clean the residence 2 weeks before we move in. What are my options and rights? Thank you for your help. I have currently rented at my current house for 3 years. My current land lord sold this house and we have to be out of here by July 13. We scrambled to find a new place and found a new house. We are moving into our new home July 7, but our new landlord is demanding that we turn the power on early for her to clean the house. Obviously, me having to pay for her to use the electricity and water to clean up the house in preparation for our move in is total BS. I tried to play dumb and sent the following text message. "They won't let me turn it on until I move in. Since you are the property owner of the property you can surely get it put in your name for the days you need to clean. They (the electric company) told me since my move in date is the 7th that is when they can turn it on for me. She responded "Radicalvic1 (she used my first name like she's my mom. That really pissed me off) I hate to inform you but that's not how it works! I told you both that utilities needed to be turned on in your name. I already have other tenants with utilities on in there name waiting for us to clean up. That's not gonna fly with me." Anyway, here is the issues. I am extremely upset that I am required to pay for them to use the water and electricity to clean the apartment weeks before we move in. I don't want to push too hard. Where we live good, affordable housing is hard to come by. I am worried that she will decide to cancel the lease and return our deposit. Considering we have to be out of our current house with all of our stuff by July 13, this would be a massive problem. The lease I signed has no mention that I am required to turn on the power and water beforehand so that they can clean the house for us. My current plan is to record all of the information and cost of their cleaning. I will then take them to small claims court in a year when our lease is up. I can already tell I am going to have issues with this land lord, but I don't have any other options at this point in time. I am so frustrated by this situation and my new landlord. What are my rights and options? Thank you for your answers, I apologize if this is long. | e1dli9u | e1db4cs | 1,530,107,104 | 1,530,091,179 | 18 | 4 | There is a lot of debate in the comments of this thread. You obviously want the house and don’t want to have to find another. So telling the LL you won’t cooperate is not a good option. Instead you want to make sure landlord reimburses you for this. I would respond to LL with something like: “Dear Landlord, Despite no requirement in our lease for me to do so, in the interests of starting out our tenancy on good terms with you, we will agree to turn on the utilities early for you if you agree to reimburse us as a credit against rent due a pro-rated amount of the first month’s utility charges based on the actual first month’s bill and the number of days that the utilities were turned on prior to our move-in date as a proportion of the number of days in the first billing period. In other words, we don’t want to incur utility costs associated with your pre-cleaning and preparation of the unit as these are not our costs to bear pursuant to the existing lease. Please prepare and execute a binding addendum to our lease and email it to me. We will gladly countersign and work with the utility companies to get everything turned on timely.” | If it’s not on the lease, tell em to jog on. | 1 | 15,925 | 4.5 |
8u83cu | legaladvice_train | 0.74 | [TN] I am moving into a new residence. My new landlord is demanding I turn on the electricity for them to clean the residence 2 weeks before we move in. What are my options and rights? Thank you for your help. I have currently rented at my current house for 3 years. My current land lord sold this house and we have to be out of here by July 13. We scrambled to find a new place and found a new house. We are moving into our new home July 7, but our new landlord is demanding that we turn the power on early for her to clean the house. Obviously, me having to pay for her to use the electricity and water to clean up the house in preparation for our move in is total BS. I tried to play dumb and sent the following text message. "They won't let me turn it on until I move in. Since you are the property owner of the property you can surely get it put in your name for the days you need to clean. They (the electric company) told me since my move in date is the 7th that is when they can turn it on for me. She responded "Radicalvic1 (she used my first name like she's my mom. That really pissed me off) I hate to inform you but that's not how it works! I told you both that utilities needed to be turned on in your name. I already have other tenants with utilities on in there name waiting for us to clean up. That's not gonna fly with me." Anyway, here is the issues. I am extremely upset that I am required to pay for them to use the water and electricity to clean the apartment weeks before we move in. I don't want to push too hard. Where we live good, affordable housing is hard to come by. I am worried that she will decide to cancel the lease and return our deposit. Considering we have to be out of our current house with all of our stuff by July 13, this would be a massive problem. The lease I signed has no mention that I am required to turn on the power and water beforehand so that they can clean the house for us. My current plan is to record all of the information and cost of their cleaning. I will then take them to small claims court in a year when our lease is up. I can already tell I am going to have issues with this land lord, but I don't have any other options at this point in time. I am so frustrated by this situation and my new landlord. What are my rights and options? Thank you for your answers, I apologize if this is long. | e1dfayy | e1ddcuj | 1,530,099,485 | 1,530,095,972 | 6 | 5 | You have a couple options. 1. Tell them the lease dies not state that you need to turn the power on for them to clean. 2. Turn the power on and "suck it up". 3. Tell them the lease does not state you need to do it but you will and deduct the prorated amount from,the first months rent. | Have you tried asking for a discount on next month's rent in exchange for signing up for utilities early? | 1 | 3,513 | 1.2 |
8u83cu | legaladvice_train | 0.74 | [TN] I am moving into a new residence. My new landlord is demanding I turn on the electricity for them to clean the residence 2 weeks before we move in. What are my options and rights? Thank you for your help. I have currently rented at my current house for 3 years. My current land lord sold this house and we have to be out of here by July 13. We scrambled to find a new place and found a new house. We are moving into our new home July 7, but our new landlord is demanding that we turn the power on early for her to clean the house. Obviously, me having to pay for her to use the electricity and water to clean up the house in preparation for our move in is total BS. I tried to play dumb and sent the following text message. "They won't let me turn it on until I move in. Since you are the property owner of the property you can surely get it put in your name for the days you need to clean. They (the electric company) told me since my move in date is the 7th that is when they can turn it on for me. She responded "Radicalvic1 (she used my first name like she's my mom. That really pissed me off) I hate to inform you but that's not how it works! I told you both that utilities needed to be turned on in your name. I already have other tenants with utilities on in there name waiting for us to clean up. That's not gonna fly with me." Anyway, here is the issues. I am extremely upset that I am required to pay for them to use the water and electricity to clean the apartment weeks before we move in. I don't want to push too hard. Where we live good, affordable housing is hard to come by. I am worried that she will decide to cancel the lease and return our deposit. Considering we have to be out of our current house with all of our stuff by July 13, this would be a massive problem. The lease I signed has no mention that I am required to turn on the power and water beforehand so that they can clean the house for us. My current plan is to record all of the information and cost of their cleaning. I will then take them to small claims court in a year when our lease is up. I can already tell I am going to have issues with this land lord, but I don't have any other options at this point in time. I am so frustrated by this situation and my new landlord. What are my rights and options? Thank you for your answers, I apologize if this is long. | e1dfayy | e1db4cs | 1,530,099,485 | 1,530,091,179 | 6 | 4 | You have a couple options. 1. Tell them the lease dies not state that you need to turn the power on for them to clean. 2. Turn the power on and "suck it up". 3. Tell them the lease does not state you need to do it but you will and deduct the prorated amount from,the first months rent. | If it’s not on the lease, tell em to jog on. | 1 | 8,306 | 1.5 |
8u83cu | legaladvice_train | 0.74 | [TN] I am moving into a new residence. My new landlord is demanding I turn on the electricity for them to clean the residence 2 weeks before we move in. What are my options and rights? Thank you for your help. I have currently rented at my current house for 3 years. My current land lord sold this house and we have to be out of here by July 13. We scrambled to find a new place and found a new house. We are moving into our new home July 7, but our new landlord is demanding that we turn the power on early for her to clean the house. Obviously, me having to pay for her to use the electricity and water to clean up the house in preparation for our move in is total BS. I tried to play dumb and sent the following text message. "They won't let me turn it on until I move in. Since you are the property owner of the property you can surely get it put in your name for the days you need to clean. They (the electric company) told me since my move in date is the 7th that is when they can turn it on for me. She responded "Radicalvic1 (she used my first name like she's my mom. That really pissed me off) I hate to inform you but that's not how it works! I told you both that utilities needed to be turned on in your name. I already have other tenants with utilities on in there name waiting for us to clean up. That's not gonna fly with me." Anyway, here is the issues. I am extremely upset that I am required to pay for them to use the water and electricity to clean the apartment weeks before we move in. I don't want to push too hard. Where we live good, affordable housing is hard to come by. I am worried that she will decide to cancel the lease and return our deposit. Considering we have to be out of our current house with all of our stuff by July 13, this would be a massive problem. The lease I signed has no mention that I am required to turn on the power and water beforehand so that they can clean the house for us. My current plan is to record all of the information and cost of their cleaning. I will then take them to small claims court in a year when our lease is up. I can already tell I am going to have issues with this land lord, but I don't have any other options at this point in time. I am so frustrated by this situation and my new landlord. What are my rights and options? Thank you for your answers, I apologize if this is long. | e1ddcuj | e1db4cs | 1,530,095,972 | 1,530,091,179 | 5 | 4 | Have you tried asking for a discount on next month's rent in exchange for signing up for utilities early? | If it’s not on the lease, tell em to jog on. | 1 | 4,793 | 1.25 |
8u83cu | legaladvice_train | 0.74 | [TN] I am moving into a new residence. My new landlord is demanding I turn on the electricity for them to clean the residence 2 weeks before we move in. What are my options and rights? Thank you for your help. I have currently rented at my current house for 3 years. My current land lord sold this house and we have to be out of here by July 13. We scrambled to find a new place and found a new house. We are moving into our new home July 7, but our new landlord is demanding that we turn the power on early for her to clean the house. Obviously, me having to pay for her to use the electricity and water to clean up the house in preparation for our move in is total BS. I tried to play dumb and sent the following text message. "They won't let me turn it on until I move in. Since you are the property owner of the property you can surely get it put in your name for the days you need to clean. They (the electric company) told me since my move in date is the 7th that is when they can turn it on for me. She responded "Radicalvic1 (she used my first name like she's my mom. That really pissed me off) I hate to inform you but that's not how it works! I told you both that utilities needed to be turned on in your name. I already have other tenants with utilities on in there name waiting for us to clean up. That's not gonna fly with me." Anyway, here is the issues. I am extremely upset that I am required to pay for them to use the water and electricity to clean the apartment weeks before we move in. I don't want to push too hard. Where we live good, affordable housing is hard to come by. I am worried that she will decide to cancel the lease and return our deposit. Considering we have to be out of our current house with all of our stuff by July 13, this would be a massive problem. The lease I signed has no mention that I am required to turn on the power and water beforehand so that they can clean the house for us. My current plan is to record all of the information and cost of their cleaning. I will then take them to small claims court in a year when our lease is up. I can already tell I am going to have issues with this land lord, but I don't have any other options at this point in time. I am so frustrated by this situation and my new landlord. What are my rights and options? Thank you for your answers, I apologize if this is long. | e1dmff3 | e1do12z | 1,530,107,993 | 1,530,109,477 | 2 | 4 | What happened to your old place? If you were on a lease, you don't have to leave because the house was sold. The lease transfers to the new owners. If the new owner tries to cancel your lease, you could try to stay in the old place. | Landlord here. Not lawyer. That is a very shady business practuce. Why do they want you to turn on the utilities early? Do they not have good enough credit to get the power turned on in their own name? If it’s just about the money, why wouldn’t they just charge an administrative fee or a move-in fee or something like that? If you really like/need the place, just do what they ask with a smile and suck it up. You are kind of at their mercy. They could’ve demanded a higher monthly rental amount and you would’ve probably just signed the lease anyway. If you are on the fence about the place, or even close to being on the fence, use this as an excuse to walk away. This probably won’t be your last landlord problem. Hard to imagine a good landlord-tenant relationship that starts out with post on /r/LegalAdvice. At the very least you should be prepared to never get back your security deposit. | 0 | 1,484 | 2 |
yawn7l | legaladvice_train | 0.88 | Landlord shutting off water without notice I live in Phoenix, Arizona. My landlord regularly will turn off the entire complexes water supply without any notice, and without reason. They did so last night for about 12 hours, leaving me unable to pee in my toilet as I was in the middle of cleaning whenever it happened. This is especially heinous due to the fact that I'm 9 months pregnant and have to pee every 30 minutes lol. I know this is area specific, I tried to post it on the Phoenix subreddit but they said to try a legal forum instead because it "didn't pertain to the area". Anyways, what should I do to stop them cutting the water supply? Does anyone know the tenant rights in Phoenix, because Google says a few different things?? Also, should I call the non-emergency police dept next time this happens, or maybe a lawyer, since the landlord refuses to give proper notice? Thank you in advance and I appreciate any/all responses. | itdgzz9 | itdwetm | 1,666,470,146 | 1,666,476,835 | 22 | 30 | Do you live in a large corporate apartment complex, or a small one with just a few units? | When the water gets turned off, call the Department of Health to inform once it is over an hour or so. They will investigate and fine | 0 | 6,689 | 1.363636 |
yawn7l | legaladvice_train | 0.88 | Landlord shutting off water without notice I live in Phoenix, Arizona. My landlord regularly will turn off the entire complexes water supply without any notice, and without reason. They did so last night for about 12 hours, leaving me unable to pee in my toilet as I was in the middle of cleaning whenever it happened. This is especially heinous due to the fact that I'm 9 months pregnant and have to pee every 30 minutes lol. I know this is area specific, I tried to post it on the Phoenix subreddit but they said to try a legal forum instead because it "didn't pertain to the area". Anyways, what should I do to stop them cutting the water supply? Does anyone know the tenant rights in Phoenix, because Google says a few different things?? Also, should I call the non-emergency police dept next time this happens, or maybe a lawyer, since the landlord refuses to give proper notice? Thank you in advance and I appreciate any/all responses. | itdwetm | itddw9c | 1,666,476,835 | 1,666,468,860 | 30 | 15 | When the water gets turned off, call the Department of Health to inform once it is over an hour or so. They will investigate and fine | Was this an emergency shut-off? | 1 | 7,975 | 2 |
yawn7l | legaladvice_train | 0.88 | Landlord shutting off water without notice I live in Phoenix, Arizona. My landlord regularly will turn off the entire complexes water supply without any notice, and without reason. They did so last night for about 12 hours, leaving me unable to pee in my toilet as I was in the middle of cleaning whenever it happened. This is especially heinous due to the fact that I'm 9 months pregnant and have to pee every 30 minutes lol. I know this is area specific, I tried to post it on the Phoenix subreddit but they said to try a legal forum instead because it "didn't pertain to the area". Anyways, what should I do to stop them cutting the water supply? Does anyone know the tenant rights in Phoenix, because Google says a few different things?? Also, should I call the non-emergency police dept next time this happens, or maybe a lawyer, since the landlord refuses to give proper notice? Thank you in advance and I appreciate any/all responses. | itdgzz9 | itddw9c | 1,666,470,146 | 1,666,468,860 | 22 | 15 | Do you live in a large corporate apartment complex, or a small one with just a few units? | Was this an emergency shut-off? | 1 | 1,286 | 1.466667 |
yawn7l | legaladvice_train | 0.88 | Landlord shutting off water without notice I live in Phoenix, Arizona. My landlord regularly will turn off the entire complexes water supply without any notice, and without reason. They did so last night for about 12 hours, leaving me unable to pee in my toilet as I was in the middle of cleaning whenever it happened. This is especially heinous due to the fact that I'm 9 months pregnant and have to pee every 30 minutes lol. I know this is area specific, I tried to post it on the Phoenix subreddit but they said to try a legal forum instead because it "didn't pertain to the area". Anyways, what should I do to stop them cutting the water supply? Does anyone know the tenant rights in Phoenix, because Google says a few different things?? Also, should I call the non-emergency police dept next time this happens, or maybe a lawyer, since the landlord refuses to give proper notice? Thank you in advance and I appreciate any/all responses. | itenwfm | itddw9c | 1,666,489,818 | 1,666,468,860 | 19 | 15 | Free legal advice: https://arizonalegalcenter.org/ The landlord is required to provide running water. The first step is to provide written notice. Good info here: https://azlawhelp.org/viewquestions.cfm?mc=3&sc=24&qid=36608 | Was this an emergency shut-off? | 1 | 20,958 | 1.266667 |
bhgjsv | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My power was just shut off, even though I've been paying the bill; My landlord requested all utility checks be made out to HIM and NOT the local power company. Is this illegal? I've lived in the unit for over 4 months, I've been paying SOMEBODY for power and water, the checks (apparently) where going "through" the landlord... but today my doorbell rang, but no one was there, then my power was shut off. When I called the power provider, they told me theres no record or account of anyone living at my address and needing power? Like I can't get it turned back on today and I have to make a whole new account with the company! And then they'll "Do their best" to get there before the weekend, when they wont do it. All they have to do it take the rubber stoppers out of the meeter!! Fuck this feels crazy. I live in Maynard MA, I know my rent is WAY to high for where and WHAT it is, and I've seen my land lords do sketchy shit before (not fixing things, overbooking the parking lot with additional cars, putting LARGE garbage out on the sidewalk; like beds, tables, couches and waiting days for the CITY to deal with it, and other basic scumbag stuff) ​ what the hell do I do here? | elub1dl | eluadq6 | 1,556,295,129 | 1,556,294,752 | 8 | 7 | If you haven't already, follow the advice in the post by u/biblioteqa. Do it quickly so you can get it resolved before the weekend. | Gather the evidence (cashed checks, prints from your bank etc..) showing payment. Take the notice you received from the power company and file a complaint. While you're at it, I'd start documenting every little thing that is sketchy in terms of your actual apartment/unit (pics if applicable, attach to an email and make note of time and date, keep them in a google drive account so you can access from anywhere in case you get locked out of your apartment). | 1 | 377 | 1.142857 |
w7ucf5 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Landlord is kicking me out, what should I do? Hello y'all, This is for a friend who is being evicted because her landlord is having a "Divorce" and husband is moving into the guest house were my friend is living at the moment. She lives in a gust house in California in the San Fernando Valley moved in early March. She is always paying her side of the rent and is never late as well. She's had problems with the landlords wife because she always has her son over helping as she trying to make her new place feel like home. As of today she got a text saying her(Landlord) husband and her are getting a divorce. The husband will be moving in the guest house, so she will need to move asap. I know there are laws that protect someone who has been living more than a month in a place, but im not entirely sure. ​ Hope someone could help out my friend, she is a very lovely older lady and is trying her best to live at peace. | ihlx99b | ihm0bed | 1,658,772,923 | 1,658,774,093 | 58 | 93 | If its in California it can be time consuming to terminate a lease or evict. If I was her I would do a pay to go deal. Find a new place and figure to cost and tell the landlord she'll move when the new place is available. If not then make them evict which takes awhile. Realistically though landlord's should have the right to not renew leases so I wouldn't be to upset by that. The asap thing is absurd though. With less than a year there it's a bit much to expect someone to vacate. Just someone else who doesn't understand the responsibilities of being a landlord. | On a month-to-month lease that has been going on for less than a year, there is no protection from lease non-renewal. She cannot be made to leave right away, but if the landlord gives an actual notice of non-renewal of the lease she will need to leave in thirty days. | 0 | 1,170 | 1.603448 |
w7ucf5 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Landlord is kicking me out, what should I do? Hello y'all, This is for a friend who is being evicted because her landlord is having a "Divorce" and husband is moving into the guest house were my friend is living at the moment. She lives in a gust house in California in the San Fernando Valley moved in early March. She is always paying her side of the rent and is never late as well. She's had problems with the landlords wife because she always has her son over helping as she trying to make her new place feel like home. As of today she got a text saying her(Landlord) husband and her are getting a divorce. The husband will be moving in the guest house, so she will need to move asap. I know there are laws that protect someone who has been living more than a month in a place, but im not entirely sure. ​ Hope someone could help out my friend, she is a very lovely older lady and is trying her best to live at peace. | ihm0bed | ihlp0mt | 1,658,774,093 | 1,658,769,804 | 93 | 9 | On a month-to-month lease that has been going on for less than a year, there is no protection from lease non-renewal. She cannot be made to leave right away, but if the landlord gives an actual notice of non-renewal of the lease she will need to leave in thirty days. | Does your friend have a lease? | 1 | 4,289 | 10.333333 |
w7ucf5 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Landlord is kicking me out, what should I do? Hello y'all, This is for a friend who is being evicted because her landlord is having a "Divorce" and husband is moving into the guest house were my friend is living at the moment. She lives in a gust house in California in the San Fernando Valley moved in early March. She is always paying her side of the rent and is never late as well. She's had problems with the landlords wife because she always has her son over helping as she trying to make her new place feel like home. As of today she got a text saying her(Landlord) husband and her are getting a divorce. The husband will be moving in the guest house, so she will need to move asap. I know there are laws that protect someone who has been living more than a month in a place, but im not entirely sure. ​ Hope someone could help out my friend, she is a very lovely older lady and is trying her best to live at peace. | ihlx99b | ihlp0mt | 1,658,772,923 | 1,658,769,804 | 58 | 9 | If its in California it can be time consuming to terminate a lease or evict. If I was her I would do a pay to go deal. Find a new place and figure to cost and tell the landlord she'll move when the new place is available. If not then make them evict which takes awhile. Realistically though landlord's should have the right to not renew leases so I wouldn't be to upset by that. The asap thing is absurd though. With less than a year there it's a bit much to expect someone to vacate. Just someone else who doesn't understand the responsibilities of being a landlord. | Does your friend have a lease? | 1 | 3,119 | 6.444444 |
w7ucf5 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Landlord is kicking me out, what should I do? Hello y'all, This is for a friend who is being evicted because her landlord is having a "Divorce" and husband is moving into the guest house were my friend is living at the moment. She lives in a gust house in California in the San Fernando Valley moved in early March. She is always paying her side of the rent and is never late as well. She's had problems with the landlords wife because she always has her son over helping as she trying to make her new place feel like home. As of today she got a text saying her(Landlord) husband and her are getting a divorce. The husband will be moving in the guest house, so she will need to move asap. I know there are laws that protect someone who has been living more than a month in a place, but im not entirely sure. ​ Hope someone could help out my friend, she is a very lovely older lady and is trying her best to live at peace. | ihmtuhi | ihlp0mt | 1,658,785,377 | 1,658,769,804 | 13 | 9 | San Fernando valley is under la city rent control which is very strict. Your friend should look into laws . I believe 60 days notice is the shortest if they don’t fall under stricter rules which they most likely do. I don’t know if guest houses have different rules but contact HCIDLA.org for help. Most likely landlord is SOL and tenant can demand cash 4 keys or refuse to leave. | Does your friend have a lease? | 1 | 15,573 | 1.444444 |
w7ucf5 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Landlord is kicking me out, what should I do? Hello y'all, This is for a friend who is being evicted because her landlord is having a "Divorce" and husband is moving into the guest house were my friend is living at the moment. She lives in a gust house in California in the San Fernando Valley moved in early March. She is always paying her side of the rent and is never late as well. She's had problems with the landlords wife because she always has her son over helping as she trying to make her new place feel like home. As of today she got a text saying her(Landlord) husband and her are getting a divorce. The husband will be moving in the guest house, so she will need to move asap. I know there are laws that protect someone who has been living more than a month in a place, but im not entirely sure. ​ Hope someone could help out my friend, she is a very lovely older lady and is trying her best to live at peace. | ihmpwoh | ihmtuhi | 1,658,783,826 | 1,658,785,377 | 2 | 13 | https://landlordtenant.dre.ca.gov/resources/guidebook/index.html https://www.stayhousedla.org/tenant\_rights https://wdacs.lacounty.gov/stories/la-county-eviction-mediation-assistance-helpline/ | San Fernando valley is under la city rent control which is very strict. Your friend should look into laws . I believe 60 days notice is the shortest if they don’t fall under stricter rules which they most likely do. I don’t know if guest houses have different rules but contact HCIDLA.org for help. Most likely landlord is SOL and tenant can demand cash 4 keys or refuse to leave. | 0 | 1,551 | 6.5 |
w7ucf5 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Landlord is kicking me out, what should I do? Hello y'all, This is for a friend who is being evicted because her landlord is having a "Divorce" and husband is moving into the guest house were my friend is living at the moment. She lives in a gust house in California in the San Fernando Valley moved in early March. She is always paying her side of the rent and is never late as well. She's had problems with the landlords wife because she always has her son over helping as she trying to make her new place feel like home. As of today she got a text saying her(Landlord) husband and her are getting a divorce. The husband will be moving in the guest house, so she will need to move asap. I know there are laws that protect someone who has been living more than a month in a place, but im not entirely sure. ​ Hope someone could help out my friend, she is a very lovely older lady and is trying her best to live at peace. | ihmq3a1 | ihmtuhi | 1,658,783,897 | 1,658,785,377 | 2 | 13 | https://www.stayhousedla.org/referral | San Fernando valley is under la city rent control which is very strict. Your friend should look into laws . I believe 60 days notice is the shortest if they don’t fall under stricter rules which they most likely do. I don’t know if guest houses have different rules but contact HCIDLA.org for help. Most likely landlord is SOL and tenant can demand cash 4 keys or refuse to leave. | 0 | 1,480 | 6.5 |
w7ucf5 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Landlord is kicking me out, what should I do? Hello y'all, This is for a friend who is being evicted because her landlord is having a "Divorce" and husband is moving into the guest house were my friend is living at the moment. She lives in a gust house in California in the San Fernando Valley moved in early March. She is always paying her side of the rent and is never late as well. She's had problems with the landlords wife because she always has her son over helping as she trying to make her new place feel like home. As of today she got a text saying her(Landlord) husband and her are getting a divorce. The husband will be moving in the guest house, so she will need to move asap. I know there are laws that protect someone who has been living more than a month in a place, but im not entirely sure. ​ Hope someone could help out my friend, she is a very lovely older lady and is trying her best to live at peace. | ihntjjy | ihmpwoh | 1,658,800,844 | 1,658,783,826 | 3 | 2 | Have your friend contact Stay Housed LA. They can help her learn her rights and connect her with a free legal service provider. They are a great organization made up of housing and tenants rights lawyers. | https://landlordtenant.dre.ca.gov/resources/guidebook/index.html https://www.stayhousedla.org/tenant\_rights https://wdacs.lacounty.gov/stories/la-county-eviction-mediation-assistance-helpline/ | 1 | 17,018 | 1.5 |
w7ucf5 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Landlord is kicking me out, what should I do? Hello y'all, This is for a friend who is being evicted because her landlord is having a "Divorce" and husband is moving into the guest house were my friend is living at the moment. She lives in a gust house in California in the San Fernando Valley moved in early March. She is always paying her side of the rent and is never late as well. She's had problems with the landlords wife because she always has her son over helping as she trying to make her new place feel like home. As of today she got a text saying her(Landlord) husband and her are getting a divorce. The husband will be moving in the guest house, so she will need to move asap. I know there are laws that protect someone who has been living more than a month in a place, but im not entirely sure. ​ Hope someone could help out my friend, she is a very lovely older lady and is trying her best to live at peace. | ihntjjy | ihmq3a1 | 1,658,800,844 | 1,658,783,897 | 3 | 2 | Have your friend contact Stay Housed LA. They can help her learn her rights and connect her with a free legal service provider. They are a great organization made up of housing and tenants rights lawyers. | https://www.stayhousedla.org/referral | 1 | 16,947 | 1.5 |
w7ucf5 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Landlord is kicking me out, what should I do? Hello y'all, This is for a friend who is being evicted because her landlord is having a "Divorce" and husband is moving into the guest house were my friend is living at the moment. She lives in a gust house in California in the San Fernando Valley moved in early March. She is always paying her side of the rent and is never late as well. She's had problems with the landlords wife because she always has her son over helping as she trying to make her new place feel like home. As of today she got a text saying her(Landlord) husband and her are getting a divorce. The husband will be moving in the guest house, so she will need to move asap. I know there are laws that protect someone who has been living more than a month in a place, but im not entirely sure. ​ Hope someone could help out my friend, she is a very lovely older lady and is trying her best to live at peace. | ihn4y1k | ihntjjy | 1,658,789,951 | 1,658,800,844 | 2 | 3 | I'm not sure if all LA Superior Courts have it, but the Compton Courthouse (and maybe the Norwalk one) have legal aid clinic that deal exclusively in housing and evictions. It's completely free but they will likely have to wait several hours. I've worked there, they will give actual legal advice and provide the necessary paperwork and help them fill it out if necessary. The line to get into the Compton Courthouse is ass long so if they choose to go that route they need to get there before the court opens. | Have your friend contact Stay Housed LA. They can help her learn her rights and connect her with a free legal service provider. They are a great organization made up of housing and tenants rights lawyers. | 0 | 10,893 | 1.5 |
vhqk2w | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | CA] My landlord has cameras everywhere inside the property. Is this legal? So I [22F] have been living at my current residence for 2 years. Recently, my landlord has installed cameras inside the house while I was out. Currently I'm aware of at least 4. 1. [On the ground floor, pointed towards the front door. 2. In the living room, pointed towards the stairs to the bedroom. 3. In the dining room, pointed towards the kitchen. 4. Upstairs, pointing towards my bedroom and bathroom. I'm generally uncomfortable with all of the cameras, but the last one has me the most weirded out. I can't think of a single justifiable reason he would need a camera pointed straight at my bedroom. When I confronted him about it on the phone, he said that it was for my "safety" in case someone robs the house or tries attacking me, since I currently live alone. But when I asked him for access to viewing the footage, he got angry and started stonewalling me. It's been a few weeks since he we had that conversation, and I'm feeling really uncomfortable living here. I've tried asking him to at least move the camera pointing at my bedroom, but every time he just starts screaming at me like I'm trying to hide something. I need to know if this is legal, or if there's anything I can do to make him stop. These past few weeks I've been holed up in my room almost 24/7. I just don't like the idea of having everything I do be recorded, and since I just renewed my lease in April I'm worried I might be trapped here for another 10 months. | idaha88 | ida804w | 1,655,895,752 | 1,655,888,081 | 467 | 244 | You are entitled to privacy in your rented space. Your safety is not his concern other than he provide locks to your entries. Be prepared to leave immediately. Contract an attorney who can handle tenants rights. Make sure this is also reported to the police. You will sue for damages to relocate. You do not want to stay there under any circumstances as breach of trust had been violated and this guy can enter whenever, illegally. | Are you renting the whole property or just a room? | 1 | 7,671 | 1.913934 |
9ra3o4 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My landlord has placed cameras and monitors me during the day including audio. Is this legal? I am in Alabama. I recently got out of the hospital after a 4 month stay and found an ad where I could rent a room in a 2 bedroom house with shared common areas. This was the only living situation affordable to me until I get back to work if and when I am medically cleared to do so. The landlord showed me the cameras when I moved in but I thought it was just for security. Ive been here 2 weeks and every time the landlord has stopped by he mentions conversations I've had in the den with the other renter who I share the house with. Is this legal? Do I have any recourse or should I just accept it due to my precarios living, financial, and medical situation. Thank you so much for any advice and wisdom. Part of the reason for my hospital stay was due to a traumatic brain injury amd I am still struggling with how to process things mentally and continuously second guess my decisions or interpretations; any opinions or input are most welcome as a result. Thank you. | e8fihc7 | e8fg5fr | 1,540,481,537 | 1,540,479,635 | 42 | 22 | The main issue here is the invasion of privacy. You should tell your landlord that their use of security cameras to intrude into your private conversations in your own space with your roommate is unacceptable and that he needs to immediately stop listening, and disable the audio recording capability of the cameras. If the landlord refuses, you *may* be able to argue that his refusal constitutes a constructive eviction. That would allow you to break the lease and move out, and also to sue for damages relating to having to find a new place to live. And even if the landlord does agree, in theory the landlord could owe you a refund of some of your rent for his past violations of your privacy. Another angle here is whether this is illegal wiretapping. IMO, it *might* have been. Alabama is a one-party consent state, but the landlord is not a party here. However, if either party is *aware* the conversation would be recorded, they are considered to be giving tacit consent. Therefore, if neither you nor your roommate knew about the audio recordings, maybe some illegal wiretapping occurred. But now that you know, any further recordings are not illegal. So if you wanted to report this as a potential crime, go right ahead. What you should *not* do is *threaten* to report your landlord to the police. Do it, or don't do it, but if you threaten and you are demanding something of value, it could be considered extortion. | My primary concern for you is whether or not you have a lease to protect you from a monthly termination. | 1 | 1,902 | 1.909091 |
9ra3o4 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My landlord has placed cameras and monitors me during the day including audio. Is this legal? I am in Alabama. I recently got out of the hospital after a 4 month stay and found an ad where I could rent a room in a 2 bedroom house with shared common areas. This was the only living situation affordable to me until I get back to work if and when I am medically cleared to do so. The landlord showed me the cameras when I moved in but I thought it was just for security. Ive been here 2 weeks and every time the landlord has stopped by he mentions conversations I've had in the den with the other renter who I share the house with. Is this legal? Do I have any recourse or should I just accept it due to my precarios living, financial, and medical situation. Thank you so much for any advice and wisdom. Part of the reason for my hospital stay was due to a traumatic brain injury amd I am still struggling with how to process things mentally and continuously second guess my decisions or interpretations; any opinions or input are most welcome as a result. Thank you. | e8fg5fr | e8fza0m | 1,540,479,635 | 1,540,494,914 | 22 | 36 | My primary concern for you is whether or not you have a lease to protect you from a monthly termination. | Does the landlord actually say "I heard you and <other tenant> talking..." or are you assuming that he heard your conversation because he says things that are suspicious? I ask because of your TBI. The brain can come up with some amazing experiences when it's not operating at 100%. Perhaps you have an ILS worker or PCA through the county that you trust that could help you investigate further? Has the other tenant noticed this? | 0 | 15,279 | 1.636364 |
vp3p24 | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | Landlord has camera and wifi thermostat we have no access to Married couple with toddler, just moved into a new single family home, 1 year lease. Landlord lives several hours away. She has a camera pointed towards the front entry way and a Nest thermostat and will not give us access to the devices. Our concerns about the camera were met with the excuse that she uses that to make sure the grass is cut and the sidewalks are shoveled when it snows. We like the place and needed a bigger house so we have dealt with her peculiarities. After moving in we found a few small things in the house that needed repair, some big like the heat didn't work and it was 45 degrees in the house. Now, the bathroom door won't close due to settling or humidity or something and the washing machine only works sporadically. After informing her of issues weeks ago, she said her repairman would be here on a certain day, 3 weeks out from our notification of deficiencies to her. He cancelled the appointment that day, so she says and that was a week ago. Evey issue we've respectfully brought 7p to her, she always says "Well that's never been an issue before and the last tenant didn't say anything." I've started replying that we've never had those issues in other houses either and never had a landlord that didn't repair any issues. This week, we unplugged our WiFi router a couple times for a few hours and and she texted and said that the internet company called her and said there's a cable unplugged and she wanted us to plug it in. I'm guessing she got a notification from the camera or thermostat app and lied about getting a call from Comcast. We're in Pennsylvania, does she have the right to have a camera there especially one we can't access? What about the thermostat? What is the recourse when she doesn't repair stuff in a timely manner? She's really hard to deal with and a cheapskate and I want to know our rights here. Thanks in advance. | ieh3p8y | ieh4gve | 1,656,695,715 | 1,656,696,021 | 35 | 59 | Is the router yours or did it come with the house? What does it say in your lease regarding the camera or wifi/thermostat? | Does the camera record audio? You need to start communicating with your landlord in writing. Certified mail, return receipt requested, would be helpful. You can also file a consumer complaint with the Pennsylvania Office of Attorney General. | 0 | 306 | 1.685714 |
vp3p24 | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | Landlord has camera and wifi thermostat we have no access to Married couple with toddler, just moved into a new single family home, 1 year lease. Landlord lives several hours away. She has a camera pointed towards the front entry way and a Nest thermostat and will not give us access to the devices. Our concerns about the camera were met with the excuse that she uses that to make sure the grass is cut and the sidewalks are shoveled when it snows. We like the place and needed a bigger house so we have dealt with her peculiarities. After moving in we found a few small things in the house that needed repair, some big like the heat didn't work and it was 45 degrees in the house. Now, the bathroom door won't close due to settling or humidity or something and the washing machine only works sporadically. After informing her of issues weeks ago, she said her repairman would be here on a certain day, 3 weeks out from our notification of deficiencies to her. He cancelled the appointment that day, so she says and that was a week ago. Evey issue we've respectfully brought 7p to her, she always says "Well that's never been an issue before and the last tenant didn't say anything." I've started replying that we've never had those issues in other houses either and never had a landlord that didn't repair any issues. This week, we unplugged our WiFi router a couple times for a few hours and and she texted and said that the internet company called her and said there's a cable unplugged and she wanted us to plug it in. I'm guessing she got a notification from the camera or thermostat app and lied about getting a call from Comcast. We're in Pennsylvania, does she have the right to have a camera there especially one we can't access? What about the thermostat? What is the recourse when she doesn't repair stuff in a timely manner? She's really hard to deal with and a cheapskate and I want to know our rights here. Thanks in advance. | ieh8r53 | ieh9tr6 | 1,656,697,750 | 1,656,698,179 | 10 | 19 | > does she have the right to have a camera there especially one we can't access? Does the lease say that there are cameras in the house? Do you rent the entire house? Are there any rooms or areas that are defined in the lease as "off limits" or not your responsibility? If the camera is not declared in the lease, she has no right to have it in the building you rent, if you are renting all of it. > What about the thermostat? Does the lease say anything about who pays for heat\AC. Or even who controls it? In most situations, if you are renting the entire house, you are paying for all the utilities. If that is true, and you pay for the heat\AC through a gas, oil, or electric bill, then you should have control of the thermostat. In the end, a lot of this will come down to what is in the lease. Edit: Here is a link to some Landlord - Renter information regarding if you can withhold rent to make certain repairs. https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/pennsylvania-tenant-rights-withhold-rent-repair-deduct.html But really, this issue with the washing machine, again, comes down to the lease, as does it specifically state that you have a working washing machine or not? Does it say anything about appliances? In order to deduct money for a repair from the rent, the rental would need to be unfit for habitation. In your case, it's just a washing machine that might not be working, which, if it's not in the lease, could be removed completely from the property by the LL and possibly not be in breach of the lease. Of course, if the LL said it was included before you signed, and was in working order, or it was mentioned somewhere else, you have more ground to stand on to get things repaired. But your only loss to recoup would be the costs to get your laundry done at a laundromat. | Not a lawyer. If you're paying utilities, and only she has control of the thermostat, that's bananas. I'd replace the thermostat with one of your choice. If you like the Nest - put on a new Nest and connect it to your account. I replaced thermostats at all rental places before we owned our own place, granted that was always to install a better programmable one rather than just to regain control. Only you know what terms you agreed to for the internet in your lease, so your options vary. I wouldn't want any of her devices on the same network as my own - regardless of whose name it is under or who is paying for it. If she's paying for internet service to the home and has cameras hooked up to it, and the cameras are legal per local/state and understood by you - that's one issue, and you probably can't just disable the internet she has pays for/controls to inactivate the cameras. I'd still set up my own internet access and home network that has absolutely nothing to do with her setup, and not grant any access to any of her devices. This ranges from trivial to impossible, depending on your location and the availability/feasibility of the local internet providers. | 0 | 429 | 1.9 |
vp3p24 | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | Landlord has camera and wifi thermostat we have no access to Married couple with toddler, just moved into a new single family home, 1 year lease. Landlord lives several hours away. She has a camera pointed towards the front entry way and a Nest thermostat and will not give us access to the devices. Our concerns about the camera were met with the excuse that she uses that to make sure the grass is cut and the sidewalks are shoveled when it snows. We like the place and needed a bigger house so we have dealt with her peculiarities. After moving in we found a few small things in the house that needed repair, some big like the heat didn't work and it was 45 degrees in the house. Now, the bathroom door won't close due to settling or humidity or something and the washing machine only works sporadically. After informing her of issues weeks ago, she said her repairman would be here on a certain day, 3 weeks out from our notification of deficiencies to her. He cancelled the appointment that day, so she says and that was a week ago. Evey issue we've respectfully brought 7p to her, she always says "Well that's never been an issue before and the last tenant didn't say anything." I've started replying that we've never had those issues in other houses either and never had a landlord that didn't repair any issues. This week, we unplugged our WiFi router a couple times for a few hours and and she texted and said that the internet company called her and said there's a cable unplugged and she wanted us to plug it in. I'm guessing she got a notification from the camera or thermostat app and lied about getting a call from Comcast. We're in Pennsylvania, does she have the right to have a camera there especially one we can't access? What about the thermostat? What is the recourse when she doesn't repair stuff in a timely manner? She's really hard to deal with and a cheapskate and I want to know our rights here. Thanks in advance. | iehhodr | ieh8r53 | 1,656,701,403 | 1,656,697,750 | 16 | 10 | Change your wifi password. If you don't know your admin password for your router, do a web search and see how to reset your router, and then change the wifi password. | > does she have the right to have a camera there especially one we can't access? Does the lease say that there are cameras in the house? Do you rent the entire house? Are there any rooms or areas that are defined in the lease as "off limits" or not your responsibility? If the camera is not declared in the lease, she has no right to have it in the building you rent, if you are renting all of it. > What about the thermostat? Does the lease say anything about who pays for heat\AC. Or even who controls it? In most situations, if you are renting the entire house, you are paying for all the utilities. If that is true, and you pay for the heat\AC through a gas, oil, or electric bill, then you should have control of the thermostat. In the end, a lot of this will come down to what is in the lease. Edit: Here is a link to some Landlord - Renter information regarding if you can withhold rent to make certain repairs. https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/pennsylvania-tenant-rights-withhold-rent-repair-deduct.html But really, this issue with the washing machine, again, comes down to the lease, as does it specifically state that you have a working washing machine or not? Does it say anything about appliances? In order to deduct money for a repair from the rent, the rental would need to be unfit for habitation. In your case, it's just a washing machine that might not be working, which, if it's not in the lease, could be removed completely from the property by the LL and possibly not be in breach of the lease. Of course, if the LL said it was included before you signed, and was in working order, or it was mentioned somewhere else, you have more ground to stand on to get things repaired. But your only loss to recoup would be the costs to get your laundry done at a laundromat. | 1 | 3,653 | 1.6 |
ei8zms | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | (Illinois, Lake County) My heroin addict brother is turning my feeble/elderly parents' home into a trap house, anything I can do to end this that doesn't result in criminal charges for him/repossession of their home by authorities? Hi there Legal Advice, long time lurker, first time poster here. The title is a pretty good summary of the situation, but let me elaborate further in the post. **My questions are in bullet form at the bottom.** My 32 year old brother is in the depths of a pretty bad opioid addiction which really went off the rails about two years ago. He and his fellow addict girlfriend were evicted from their apartment and were allowed to live with my parents until they both overdosed in April. She left the situation and got sober, but my brother has followed the typical junkie life trajectory since then; lost his job, does weird shit for money and lost some teeth. He and his rotating cast of junkie friends hang out in the basement of my parent's home, using and selling him drugs. The house has fallen into a state of disrepair that would probably lead any code enforcement officer to condemn it if they saw the interior portions. My parents are older and are not in good health mentally or physically. My 80 year old father is probably in the last six months of life with end stage congestive heart failure and my 64 year old mother has never been fully able to take charge of things, due to her own struggles with mental illness. She works in a low paying job for the health insurance benefits. Her income combined with my father's Social Security benefits are the only income supporting the house. But generally speaking, my brother makes bad decisions, and my father sanctions them and also makes some bad ones of his own; my mom silently consents to whatever either of them say. I bail them out financially with increasing regularity, although that is the limit of the assistance they are willing to accept from me. I have begged and pleaded with them to get their shit together since I was 19, and I will admit that by the time I turned 30, I simply withdrew myself from trying to assist with their precarious living situation, only intervening during emergencies. These include an overdose my brother had in April and two recent hospitalizations for my dad to try to prolong his life with endstage CHF. He is very ill at the moment, in the hospital delirious and suffering from a lung infection which I believe to be partially related to the squalor they live in. He is threatening to sign himself out of the hospital against medical advice, which is another matter... Anyway, today I visited the house for the first time since April and it is a scene straight out of some horrible intersection of Hoarders and Intervention. I encountered some of my brothers "friends" at the house, while he was out, shuffling around trying to clean up the place with needles falling out of their pockets. One guy arrived looking for his missing pack of cigarettes (seemed like a codeword for his drugs), while another fellow went out to hand off something to a guy in a parked car. Needless to say, I think they are using and selling controlled substances out of my parents home. I can't imagine anybody who was not on drugs wanting to spend any kind of extended time in that hovel. I don't think it is healthy or safe for my parents to continue to live there under any circumstances if my father survives this latest health setback. Also these heroin addicts are strife generators and I kinda want to see them rot in jail for the next five years. **Here are my legal questions:** * I want to know how bad of an idea it would be to alert the local law enforcement about what I think is going on here. That house is probably all of the remaining assets my parents have currently, and as I understand it could be seized as the proceeds of illegal activity. I really want them to keep some of that equity to live off of. To be clear, my parents do not benefit in anyway from the heroin den in their basement, but I think they would have a hard time convincing a court that they had no idea what was going on there if the house was raided. * Can I expect the police tip off code enforcement to condemn the place if nothing else? Or alert Adult Protective Services of the situation? * Should I cut out the middle man and call APS on them myself? Will they help end or just further complicate this shitshow? I'd love to have this be out of my hands. * Can this situation be salvaged by getting some sort of guardianship over my father with the assistance of an attorney? Do I need an attorney to attempt that or can I reasonably file that motion on my own? It would be a huge burden to me to have my brother get a felony charge over all of this, as I would be expected to help him recover some sort of constructive existence afterwards. I also understand that he has gotten many more chances than the average junkie to dodge the legal consequences of his addiction, so if that is the only way, so be it. Thanks in advance for any legal insights, and Happy New Year. | fcpch3v | fcp5ufx | 1,577,858,215 | 1,577,851,444 | 8 | 5 | > That house is probably all of the remaining assets my parents have currently, and as I understand it could be seized as the proceeds of illegal activity. The house couldn't be seized as the *proceeds* of illegal activity, but rather as a place used for the distribution/possession/use of controlled substances. This article has some information about how this process, called "civil forfeiture." It will not be a defense that your parents did not personally commit drug crimes on the property since they knowingly allowed it to be maintained for that purpose. There is a way to do this under federal law as well but it is highly unlikely they would get involved unless there is some serious distribution going on there. However, it is probably in your best interest to call the police now. Since you don't yet own the property, you don't have any other legal options to evict or otherwise stop the activity, and if you allow the situation to get worse the chance of a forfeiture will get much higher. Sooner or later they are going to enter the place either as the result of a death or a complaint from the community. It could also work the other way around where code enforcement get authority to enter and then reports what they see to law enforcement. If this becomes a hotspot for distribution the cops are going to raid the place, arrest everyone for constructive possession and move to seize the property. Better to get ahead of the issue now. | I am not a lawyer. I would try and get guardianship, since even if things were good your parents need someone to manage the finances. work to evict your brother in whatever way is required. | 1 | 6,771 | 1.6 |
wgk2u8 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | My company has added a coworkers income into my draw because "most of the work she does benefits me". My wife and I work for the same company. She is salaried and I work on commission, paid a draw abd then my commissions are to be paid out monthly. I put in my notice two weeks ago because I haven't seen commission since February. With my notice I noted that the state law around termination of employment for a commissioned sales person is that they pay me 100% up to date within 30 days of my last day. Today I received my commission statement and when they figured my draw against my commission, for the first time in five years, the deducted my wifes salary in full from my commissions. So effectively, I paid her for the last 5 months instead of the company. My CEO says we discussed this but we definitely never did. What does my recourse look like here if he does not correct this? I'm in Missouri and he is in California if that matters. | ij0carb | ij0hh9u | 1,659,670,487 | 1,659,673,298 | 663 | 3,151 | Local labor board | Shorted you $11.5K? Pay a consultation fee for an employment lawyer or look for a free consultation. Perhaps a demand letter would do the trick. | 0 | 2,811 | 4.75264 |
wgk2u8 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | My company has added a coworkers income into my draw because "most of the work she does benefits me". My wife and I work for the same company. She is salaried and I work on commission, paid a draw abd then my commissions are to be paid out monthly. I put in my notice two weeks ago because I haven't seen commission since February. With my notice I noted that the state law around termination of employment for a commissioned sales person is that they pay me 100% up to date within 30 days of my last day. Today I received my commission statement and when they figured my draw against my commission, for the first time in five years, the deducted my wifes salary in full from my commissions. So effectively, I paid her for the last 5 months instead of the company. My CEO says we discussed this but we definitely never did. What does my recourse look like here if he does not correct this? I'm in Missouri and he is in California if that matters. | ij0carb | ij0v8ft | 1,659,670,487 | 1,659,682,402 | 663 | 1,090 | Local labor board | Your wife’s salary is nothing to do with your salary. That sounds extremely dodgy. Get a lawyer. | 0 | 11,915 | 1.644042 |
wgk2u8 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | My company has added a coworkers income into my draw because "most of the work she does benefits me". My wife and I work for the same company. She is salaried and I work on commission, paid a draw abd then my commissions are to be paid out monthly. I put in my notice two weeks ago because I haven't seen commission since February. With my notice I noted that the state law around termination of employment for a commissioned sales person is that they pay me 100% up to date within 30 days of my last day. Today I received my commission statement and when they figured my draw against my commission, for the first time in five years, the deducted my wifes salary in full from my commissions. So effectively, I paid her for the last 5 months instead of the company. My CEO says we discussed this but we definitely never did. What does my recourse look like here if he does not correct this? I'm in Missouri and he is in California if that matters. | ij0v8ft | ij0kb0y | 1,659,682,402 | 1,659,674,959 | 1,090 | 109 | Your wife’s salary is nothing to do with your salary. That sounds extremely dodgy. Get a lawyer. | Find the phone number for your local bar association. Tell them your situation and they’ll give you a list of referrals for an attorney. | 1 | 7,443 | 10 |
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