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Privacy Tools: Encryption against global mass surveillance - DyslexicAtheist https://www.privacytools.io/ ====== tptacek It's fine if you don't want to use privacy tools run from the US. I wouldn't use a privacy tool run from the People's Republic of China, for a bunch of reasons. But the logic this post uses to make the case against US privacy tools is specious. The United States Government didn't ruin Lavabit. Lavabit did that to itself. Lavabit was a "secure" email system whose servers kept the keys to your email. There is no safe way to design such a system, and Lavabit didn't even approximate safety. Lavabit didn't make this terrible decision to help the DOJ (although they did help the DOJ, multiple times, before the Snowden case). Rather, they did it because they wanted users. Building a better security system would mean prospective users would need to download and install software on their computer, and nobody wants to do that anymore. Lavabit chose user adoption over security. We all see what that cost, not just them, but all their users. So I'd submit that while making it's legit to make political statements by carefully choosing the country of origin of your privacy tools, your first priority is to select tools that are _actually secure_. It does you no good to adopt a crypto tool from Iceland if it's using unauthenticated AES-CBC, unpadded RSA, or bad elliptic curves --- and there are tools, probably some of them quite popular, that make these kinds of mistakes. If you're talking about how a chat tool comes from Switzerland before you're talking in detail about how its security works, your priorities are out of whack. ~~~ nickpsecurity I've called out both Lavabit and jurisdiction-first claims on Schneiers blog repeatedly with similar points. I totally agree with this comment. That other companies were actively selling secure messaging or email services that avoided Lavabit's foolish design just supports it further. ------ JohnStrange Not choosing US-based hosting providers is sound advice for various reasons, if not only for the reason that the US has invented crimes that do not exist in other countries or the sentences for existing crimes are 10 x higher than anywhere else. (I do not want to defend criminals but some of those "crimes" also affect people who e.g. write p2p programs or decompilers. You get what I mean.) As for the value of encryption to keep governments from snooping -- no way, that's not going to work ever. Endpoint security is a joke, PC and mobile phone are insecure on all levels, from applications over OS to firmware and microcode. And if Snowden's educational slide show leaks have shown anything, then certainly that the guys at NSA know what they are doing in terms of side- channel attacks. Government snooping and privacy decay is a social and political problem and should primarily be addressed at that level. ~~~ mindslight > _Government snooping and privacy decay is a social and political problem and > should primarily be addressed at that level._ Please don't attempt to bolster support for one approach by discouraging another. There is no "primarily". _None_ of the approaches have worked so far, so it's premature to say that fewer approaches are necessary. Personally, I don't see how the NSA (never mind Google) would ever be politically prevented from most mechanisms of surveillance. To the extent that political power could be used to categorically end surveillance, it can just be used to constrain the _application_ of surveillance. We can encourage people to value privacy, but it's another thing to convince them to completely dismantle the capabilities against everyone, including say child pornographers. But I'll still applaud you for trying. ~~~ chii A social mechanism can work to prevent privacy invasion. It requires that societal attitude change. Imagine how big a scandal it would be to have bribery or corruption in the govt'. If we give these privacy issues the same weight, then problems can get fixed ~~~ mindslight My point is you've got to overcome the attraction to "only processed by a computer or under lawful process". For example, _NSA surveillance has no direct effects on the average US citizen_. It is a setup for bad things to happen, has possible political meta- effects, and is a worrying trend. But if the process is successfully constrained by law, then to your average person it represents a _capability_ rather than a vulnerability. This has little to do with your average person not understanding technology, but instead with their feeling safe as part of a majority. ------ banku_brougham whenever i turn on my VPN i imagine it was secretly set up as a honeypot by the NSA. it would be a perfect strategy for them: implement a low-cost, high quality VPN with great service and bandwidth, from a country with legal privacy protections. how would anyone find out? ~~~ BurungHantu "Never trust any company with your privacy, always encrypt." Source: [https://www.privacytools.io/](https://www.privacytools.io/) ------ unstatusthequo [https://github.com/jlund/streisand](https://github.com/jlund/streisand) ------ thinkMOAR Nice list, knew many, but didn't really knew of their 'canary' files. Though when checking a few i found, "Statement VPNSecure has not been silenced by legal and or anti-democratic law. Last updated Thur Jul 30 00:57:30 EDT 2016 If there is no statement, please proceed with caution" It doesn't state how often/recent it should be updated, its august 2nd now, did this canary choke in the mine? ~~~ nxzero Canaries have no legal meaning as far as I know: [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant_canary](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant_canary) Archive of the page your looking at maybe found here: [https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.vpnsecure.me/files...](https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.vpnsecure.me/files/canary.txt) (Given the pull date noted by the archive and the date listed in the related cache of the canary are off in some cases by months, may guess is it is meaningless that the current canary is off by a few days.) ------ matrixanger A similar list: [https://prism-break.org](https://prism-break.org) ------ iuguy IVPN are based in Gibraltar and should be considered to be on the UK list. While they have separate courts and legal systems, their defence, including intelligence gathering is run by the UK. I'd also suggest striking anyone from the 14 eyes off the list too. ------ mk89 All great tools (ghostery is missing, although there is Disconnect), but the lack of a _great_ search engine like Google _is_ a big deal. I don't use DuckDuckGo regularly because, although I believe it's a great search engine that works mostly fine, sometimes the results are somewhat unexpected, and you need to be fast and focused. The rest is okay, there seems to be a good amount of email providers, but Search Engines? :( ~~~ keeganjw DuckDuckGo can still help somewhat here. You can search pretty much anywhere via DuckDuckGo and it strips out some of your personal data when it redirects you. It's not perfect but it helps. Also, the bang syntax (i.e. search google with !g, google images with !gi, wikipedia with !w, etc.) is so damn helpful. Whenever I'm using a browser without DDG as the default I find it so much slower to search something. ~~~ mk89 I know, I have used and I still use DuckDuckGo. However, I have found that for many queries I need, I end up typing continuously "!g query". So, I just don't see the point. Many of the results are just not relevant - of course, I send the feedback. It's not a criticism, it's just that in my case I don't want to open 4-5 tabs, lose focus trying to understand whether the content is relevant or not, and then use Google. ~~~ keeganjw To be fair, I pretty much never go to the home page or use their actual search engine except for unit conversions. It's pretty good at that. I end up searching everything through !g for regular search results. But I'm constantly searching other websites via DDG. It's just so much quicker. ------ mhogomchungu Linux has a bunch of security tools that can be used to encrypt files locally before they are uploaded to the cloud and cryfs-gui[1] provides a single,simple to use GUI frontend to a range of fuse based tools that stores data in encrypted folders. [1] [http://mhogomchungu.github.io/cryfs- gui/](http://mhogomchungu.github.io/cryfs-gui/) ------ emblem21 Securely share small files/folders via AES from CLI 6 lines of Bash [https://github.com/codeotter/sharenow](https://github.com/codeotter/sharenow)
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Genghis Khan's success was in due to his ability and willingness to innovate - delancey http://delanceyplace.com/view-archives.php?p=2905 ====== bediger4000 But did he respect intellectual property when innovating? I'm told this is Very Important. Also, did he have a process? I'm told that's Super Important.
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Building Maintainable Software – Free O’Reilly Ebook - ingve https://www.sig.eu/en/building-maintainable-software/ ====== antouank This is also a great book, from the creator of ESLint, with similar topic [http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920025245.do](http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920025245.do) . ------ Chris_Newton I’m all for promoting maintainable code, but unfortunately I’d hesitate to recommend this book after looking through some of the early material. For example, the first main chapter is “Write Short Units of Code”, in which the authors advocate a strict 15 lines per method limit. This sort of argument is common, but not one that seems to be supported by evidence. For one thing, arbitrary limits are rarely a good idea in programming. If I take an 18 line Java function and translate it almost directly into Python, where it’s only 14 lines because I don’t need a few closing braces, is it suddenly now more maintainable? That seems unlikely. More significantly in this particular case, various studies over the years have _not_ supported the claim that short functions have better error rates, nor that longer but otherwise reasonable functions have higher error rates; if anything, the overall body of evidence seems to suggest the opposite conclusion.[1] As the book does note itself, the problem with longer functions often isn’t their length, it’s that they are mixing up multiple responsibilities, which can’t then be read, tested, or reused separately. A better guideline here might have been to separate different responsibilities into different functions, rather than focus on the amount of code required to implement a specific responsibility cleanly. Of course, this will naturally lead to shorter functions in a lot of cases, but without the correlation/causation fallacy. For similar reasons, I wish they had treated their second substantial example (the one about the Pacman-style game board) differently. There are a few maintenance hazards with the original code that perhaps could be improved, and depending on the rest of the code there might be some useful ways to refactor that function for ease of reuse. However, the original function wasn’t awful, and it was reasonably clear what it did and how it worked. I don’t think it is an improvement to replace that with three functions and a substantial amount of shared state wrapped in a class. The code is still tightly coupled, so this offers limited benefits in terms of testing or reuse, and now the reader has to jump around different parts of almost twice as much code to figure out what is going on. To add insult to injury, there is then a horrible section on common objections that tries to address the criticism that more spread out code may be harder to read. I imagine my psychologist friends would cringe at the way it appeals without evidence to probably one of the most misunderstood results in all of psychology. I haven’t read the whole book, but the subsequent chapters that I have read do follow a similar pattern, in particular dismissing potential objections to the authors’ preferred style with vague arguments that lack either logical reasoning or citations of hard data. From authors who apparently have CS PhDs and talk a lot about science and software quality in their biographies, this lack of rigour is disappointing. I applaud the authors for trying to raise awareness of an important and often neglected aspect of programming, but unfortunately this book looks like a missed opportunity: it’s more _Clean Code_ than _Code Complete_ , strong on advocacy but light on evidence and with some questionable advice. [1] For anyone who wants to explore real data in this area, I suggest starting with the discussion in _Code Complete_ , which helpfully cites several relevant papers from the relatively early research, and then using Google Scholar to find more recent material based on what else cites those papers. ~~~ nimnio "More significantly in this particular case, various studies over the years have not supported the claim that short functions have better error rates, nor that longer but otherwise reasonable functions have higher error rates; if anything, the overall body of evidence seems to suggest the opposite conclusion." That's an oversimplification of the research, and misleading. After citing five studies in Code Complete (including the one that shows an inverse correlation between errors and function size), McConnell summarizes as follows: "That said, if you want to write routines longer than about 200 lines, be careful. None of the studies that reported decreased cost, decreased error rates, or both with larger routines distinguished among sizes larger than 200 lines, and you’re bound to run into an upper limit of understandability as you pass 200 lines of code." I wouldn't advocate for a strictly short functions either, but the overall body of evidence definitely does _not_ suggest the opposite conclusion: the opposite conclusion would be that we should endeavour to write long functions! Anyhow, nitpicking aside, thanks for providing a quick review of this book. I'm going to skip it based on your comments. ~~~ Chris_Newton _That 's an oversimplification of the research, and misleading._ OK, I concede that I simplified there, though I think you’re being a little harsh. When we’re discussing shorter vs. longer functions today, it seems fair to say we’re usually considering scales of perhaps 5 lines vs. 25 lines vs. 100 lines. I did write “longer _but otherwise reasonable_ ”, and by the time we’re talking about 200+ lines in a single function, I expect most of us would consider most such functions undesirable for reasons other than their length. _I wouldn 't advocate for a strictly short functions either, but the overall body of evidence definitely does _not_ suggest the opposite conclusion: the opposite conclusion would be that we should endeavour to write long functions!_ Well, some of the evidence does seem to suggest that that might be a better strategy, within the bounds of common sense and other things being equal. However, in reality, I don’t think other things _are_ equal most of the time in programming. Personally, I find criteria like having one responsibility and clearly describing how it is met more useful for writing good functions than crude metrics like the number of lines. Given that there are a lot of correlations between otherwise undesirable features and function length, we should be wary of assuming causal relationships in any case. But we surely shouldn’t be advocating the trendy very-short-functions approach as some obviously superior style when if anything the balance of evidence is against it. ------ kluck Great topic and from scanning the table of contents the guidelines are well chosen. The matter maintainability is discussed far too seldom! I would like to add that "maintainability" more often than not refers to maintenance "by someone else other than who wrote the first revision of some code". ~~~ crististm Maintainability is not the first topic of discussion when mantra is "build software to throw away". We're in an age of consumerism in software. We reinvent large pieces of software because we don't have a grip on existing ones to be able to repair or extend them. All the known acronyms including NIH are at work. ~~~ adrianN I guess it depends on your perspective. I'd argue the exact opposite; we're entering the age of huge, ancient, yet mission critical codebases that nobody really understands. Look at any piece of popular business software, eg SAP, or the software controlling most computer powered machinery, like factories. It's layers upon layers dating back to the 80s. The systems perform poorly even on modern machines, and have terrible usability because changing them is too hard.
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Google solved Android fragmentation and forgot to tell everybody - jnedum http://ishouldhaveknownthisbefore.wordpress.com/2013/05/16/google-solved-android-fragmentation-and-forgot-to-tell-everybody/ ====== OriginalAT I chuckled when I got to the bottom of the post and saw the Windows Phone fighting wedding commercial. It seemed like every time Google announced something yesterday they mentioned that it was part of Play Services and would be updated by Google instead of OEMs. Every time they said that I kept thinking "BRILLIANT"!
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Thursday was terrible, but I'm still smiling - rcavezza http://bobstarted.com/startup-stories/thursday-was-terrible-but-im-still-smiling/ ====== snitko Reading this I was thinking how important it is to be able to run the demo from any computer, but that's probably not always possible.
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If (big if) the world was ending, how would you know? - mooseburger https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/c7wmkq/if_big_if_the_world_was_ending_how_would_you_know/ ====== AnimalMuppet That writer is a kind of a jerk (more in the replies than in the original post). "I know, you don't, I'm smarter than you, you have to prove that you follow what I'm talking about (and I'm talking as obscurely as I can) before you're worthy of me having a real conversation with you." Yeah, spare me; you aren't so amazingly, uniquely insightful that it's worth it for me to jump through your hoops. That said, there's an interesting question in there. If our society were starting into a technological collapse, what would it look like? And how would it look different than what our current world looks like? I'm not sure I buy that this is what's happening. But looking around, I see enough that might be evidence that I can't rule it out... ~~~ ewl4 Definitely kind of a jerk but I genuinely believe it's a big issue especially in technology. Technology and science isn't self-improving, we improve processes because it's passed on throughout generations. The core of software itself in the past 20 years hasn't really changed much from the 80s. Sure we have new languages and processes but it's just the same stuff repeated over again but each time bits are lost. Basically we wouldn't know that an ongoing collapse is happening but everything would get slightly shitter and shitter with older legacy processes being unfixable once they break because none of that knowledge is being passed down. Great video on this. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3OCFfDStgM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3OCFfDStgM) ~~~ mooseburger Nice! You're pretty smart. But you think me being a jerk is somehow relevant to anything? Hmm. A-. ------ simonblack Decline (99 times out of a hundred) is so slow and steady that the only way to discover that it's happening is to compare things NOW with things THEN. So: Can a single-earner family today buy a house, a car, and send their kids through a good education system? Is the US still capable of launching men into space, let alone sending several at a time to the Moon and back safely? Can a normal wage-earner still afford several weeks of hospital care? 50 years ago, we would be answering 'Yes' to all three of these questions. ~~~ mooseburger But the US is Trantor. Trantor is the last place the decline starts to hit. The decline is already hitting me on Terminus. ~~~ simonblack Where's a Mule when you need him?
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Lyft losing as much as $50M a month, president confirms - prostoalex http://www.siliconbeat.com/2016/07/12/lyft-losing-much-50-million-month-president-confirms/ ====== liquidise What shocks me about both Lyft and Uber's enormous burn rates are that they suggest the companies are heavily subsidizing their drivers. This subsidy is in part to spur penetration in new markets (as all marketplace apps must do), but also suggests that they have reason to believe customers will simply not pay a rate that makes the business profitable. Assuming the latter is the case, i'm not sure if they have reason to believe this will change over time. Instead, it feels like the human drivers are really just plays to keep the company growing until hypothetical fleets of automated driving cars. In theory, such a fleet would deliver massive profits, but those fleets will be enormously expensive to assemble. Even when they are assembled each company should expect tumultuous legal battles in many areas. When i try to make all the monkey math work, it doesn't seem to add up. Maybe i'm not enough of a gambling man, but i really don't understand how the venture market still supports business models like these. ~~~ niftich They are absolutely excited about the time when self-driving cars will be actually here. But the real play here is to use taxi service as a pretext/generator for building up an on-demand courier service [1] with superior returns -- and performance that vastly dwarfs any incumbents. [1] [https://rush.uber.com/how-it-works](https://rush.uber.com/how-it-works) EDIT: after the introduction of courier services, picking up passengers serves as a baseline load [2] (to borrow from electricity distribution terminology) to keep drivers incentivized to be on the roads, but the real prize will be the courier tasks. [2] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_load_power_plant](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_load_power_plant) ~~~ jahnu I'm probably in the minority here but I'm not convinced we are particularly close to real self-driving cars. It's definitely possible but I strongly suspect there are more challenges ahead than most people believe. ~~~ puranjay I feel that the hype for self-driving cars is the same as it was for VR in the 90s We had to wait another 15-20 years for those feverished VR dreams to become a reality I reckon it'll be the same for self-driving. We are 20-25 years away, not 5-10 ~~~ Noseshine In addition, only a few days (one or two weeks) ago we had a much commented story linked here on HN that VR is way too hyped. Supprted by quotes from actual executives and/or investors in that business if I recall correctly, so not just the usual negativism that can always be found for any topic if you choose your source well. ~~~ puranjay I don't think VR will ever be mainstream unless hardware costs come down drastically and they can figure out a way to make VR headsets look less dorky ------ ejcx This might be a dumb question. How does that compare to Uber? I see Uber has been raising like a billion dollars every month I'm guessing their spending is a lot higher (especially having something ridiculous like 5000 non-driver employees). ~~~ Noseshine I just googled "uber financials" and here is one link: [http://uk.businessinsider.com/uber-financials- for-2014-and-2...](http://uk.businessinsider.com/uber-financials- for-2014-and-2015-2016-1) This one might be relevant too: [http://www.forbes.com/sites/briansolomon/2016/06/02/uber- is-...](http://www.forbes.com/sites/briansolomon/2016/06/02/uber-is-breaking- all-the-rules-in-its-25-billion-arms-race/) \----- EDIT: This is ridiculous. Why am I getting downvoted? I think the linked sites clearly answer the question of the parent as well as is possible. If it's about the "I googled" I was merely trying to show what search I used in case the reader has a better idea for a search string that results in better links. Some people here IMHO show ridiculous voting behavior. I made a serious effort at trying to answer the question - with a very usable result IMHO. ------ yladiz I'm somewhat more optimistic that Lyft will fare better in certain cities than Uber because they seem more willing to work with governments and seem like less of a "bully" (although they did act the same as Uber in Austin recently...), but they also seem to wait until Uber goes into a city and kind of lets them take the brunt of the assault in the hopes that they will fare better. However, hearing that they're losing up to 50MM per month is quite disconcerting, and it makes me wonder how much time they have and if they will break even. Even at a large valuation ($25 billion if I remember right?) they seemingly can't continue at such a loss without a drastic change to their business model or continuous large outside investment. I think one of better things they could do is really use their positive PR as a strong advantage, because they don't have major blunders like Uber (e.g. Uber gets $3 billion investment from Saudi Arabian investment fund and adds one of their managers as a board member). ~~~ dawnerd I've been seeing nothing but ads around here for 50 dollars free and I know some people that have been taking advantage of it. Maybe they should scale that back. ~~~ stephengillie Could they be giving away 1 million of these a month? ~~~ yladiz It's probably a combination of those $50 free ride deals, which are likely only available in specific markets, and the loss from having semi low cost rides, as well as heavy marketing. ------ tastynacho Can someone please explain how its possible to lose that much money? What exactly does that 50M constitute? ~~~ tedmiston 1\. Giving generous discounts to get people to establish the habit of Lyft-ing regularly. 2\. Subsidizing the cost of rides with VC money. For example, paying the driver more than the customer is charged for a normal ride. Also, I'm not sure if it's still this way but at one point Lyft Line in SF was a flat rate ~$5 even for long distances. Tune the discount percentages to arrive at the maximum "losable" amount. ~~~ abrkn It's working on me. I can't remember when or why I switched from Uber to Lyft. Maybe it's the capped Lyft Line prices they used to have, or perhaps the billboards. It's certainly not the fist bumps. ------ cft Today marks the _fifth_ $50 subsidy that I got from Lyft in the last 12 months. ~~~ cuchoi How did you manage to get that? ------ kin It's kind of crazy that they lose so much money just so people could start using Lyft but as soon as they can't afford to do that anymore Uber is just going to capitalize. Unless there's some sort of Loyalty program (like airlines) I'm just going to go with whichever is cheaper at the very moment I'm interested in getting a ride. If one has Surge then I switch and vice versa. ------ youngButEager $50 million burn rate per month? Time to go public! That president broke a cardinal rule of VC-backed startups -- never reveal your numbers. Although some do, admittedly. But at that rate of burn, it's pretty surprising he got approval to disclose that. If I'm an LP -- looking at the #2 in the space -- and they're treading water against #1 while losing $50M a month -- I'd rather check out the #1 in the space. Although Uber's burn rate is also quite high -- losing $1 billion dollars in China alone: [http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/19/technology/uber- losing-1-bil...](http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/19/technology/uber- losing-1-billion-china/index.html) ~~~ tedmiston Their burn rate is probably even higher than $50MM: presumably they are making _some_ money. Also, remember they've raised $2B [0]. If that is the burn rate, it's 40 months ~= 3.3 years of runway with everything else constant (admittedly a bad assumption). That's a lot more runway than most startups have. I'd suspect they have multiple alternative burn rates paths to go down that are more/less conservative with burn rate, like a 5- or 10-year runway before being profitable. [0]: [https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/lyft](https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/lyft) ------ dotcoma I thought 50 a week. 50 a month is "almost profitable" ;-)
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Andreessen Horowitz Backs SkySafe, Which Wirelessly Grounds Your Drone - cpeterso http://recode.net/2016/04/20/skysafe-uses-a-wireless-signal-to-take-down-drones/ ====== viperscape So this might not work with totally custom drones, and that's a huge market in done world. They'd have to continually track and build a database of new controllers as they come out. Unless they plan on just saturating the 2.4ghz air waves, is that legal? Any ways, seems kinda unsafe to see the drone fall in disabled mode. Hopefully no one is near by ~~~ god_bless_texas Yep I was coming here to post something similar. I imagine they are further along than I am assuming. Or maybe they are OK with only being able to protect against a certain percentage of drones out there. ~~~ rasz_pl They probably count on clients being clueless or not caring. 'we stop 99% of drones out there by sales volume' might by enough for the same people that buy application firewalls and antivirus software pretending its a sound security strategy. ------ snsr I'm curious about the legalities of a product like this, FCC and otherwise. ~~~ NickNameNick It does seem to run straight into the 'harmful interference' part of part 15. I've seen people in previous discussions (mostly around the 'rogue ap containment' feature of some wireless access points) try to argue that only 'dumb' broadband jammers fall afoul of the limitations on jammers, and that 'smart' or protocol aware jammers wouldn't. I don't agree, and based on the ruling against the conference centre that was abusing the AP containment feature of their wifi AP's to block other peoples wifi signals, I'm guessing that the FCC doesn't think so either. ------ HoopleHead So. What if you disable a drone and it hits someone as it falls? ~~~ falcolas This is my thought as well. Not all drones (I hate that term, but that ship has sailed) have return to home or even fail safe operations. Imagine, for a moment, someone triggering this while there's a quad racing event going on. All of a sudden, you have between 3 and 5 unguided projectiles following unpredictable paths, usually with spectators present. All of them are also carrying a fairly nasty incendiary device (also known to laymen as a battery), which reacts poorly to being crashed. Or a fly-in, where not only the quads, but all RC aircraft are affected. Some of those move at well over 100mph, and are filled with jet fuel. ------ datalord These guys have something similar: [http://www.department13.com/](http://www.department13.com/) Existing military contracts. Probably similar tech. ~~~ mrpants1 I think one difference though is D13 can take control of the drone, fly it somewhere, and land it. ------ Klasiaster Any details on what they are emitting to disable the drone? ~~~ headShrinker My guess is it's a 2.4Ghz narrow beam jammer. It would likely have little effect on say a 400Mhz receiver. Not to mention it is reliant on a predicable failsafe. What if the failsafe is 100% throttle. It would be pretty easy to make this device useless.
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Facebook - Broadcasting live video to millions - s4chin https://code.facebook.com/posts/1653074404941839/under-the-hood-broadcasting-live-video-to-millions/ ====== carterh062 I'm curious why Facebook was willing to sacrifice delivering adaptive stream to get better latency. I guess they explain that for "Live for People," it makes more sense to have less latency through RTMP, as opposed to possibly worse video or connection. However, I know Periscope is using HLS for all of their stream, save for Android where it looks like RTSP. Anyone have any thoughts or insights on Facebook's decision to use RTMP as opposed to HLS?
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MailChimp now free up to 2000 subscribers - bjonathan http://mailchimp.com/pricing/ ====== lukestevens Probably worth relinking their excellent blog post "Going Freemium: One Year Later" <http://blog.mailchimp.com/going-freemium-one-year-later/> Their 'reverse freemium' approach is really interesting -- rather than de- emphasising the free and focusing on the [pre]mium side of their biz, they've been slowly expanding their free options and growing rapidly -- in terms of profit -- because of it. ~~~ zacharycohn I think the major difference here is that it's easy to have to migrate from free to paid. If your site/newsletter starts doing well, you hit a point where you HAVE to start paying them. ~~~ petercooper Yeah, and you're usually glad to as well :-) I have 8500 subscribers on my account so far and it's $75/mo well spent. (But boy, do they ratchet the tiers up fast. Once I tip over 10k subscribers, it leaps up to $150/mo! A few more intermediate tiers please, MailChimp.. otherwise my 10,000th subscriber will cost me $75/mo alone ;-)) ------ tapz "No Credit Card Required. No Contracts." Thanks. A lot. \- a teenager ~~~ DenisM I wonder, can't you buy a anonymous credit card from a department store? ~~~ showerst That's not terribly common in the US. It's possible to buy VISA or AMEX gift cards in some stores, but the markup tends to be significant (10%+). ------ marcusEting Extensive list of e-mail marketing services, free and paid: <http://techblog.willshouse.com/?p=522> (Constant Contact, iContact, Vertical Response, StreamSend, and many more) ~~~ slig Anyone with experience on Direct Mail(<http://ethreesoftware.com/directmail/>)? I'd like to use it with SendGrid and later move to SES. ~~~ jhammer I'm the developer of Direct Mail, if you have any questions. We have several customers using Direct Mail with SendGrid and they seem to be very happy with the setup. ~~~ slig Thanks for the reply, jhammer. I'll get the Pro version before the 50% off ends and I'll try by myself. ------ timjahn I love MailChimp. They're branding is so friendly, their people are so friendly, and overall they just love their customers. I'm a fan of their model. If you have more than 2,000 subscribers, you can most likely afford to pay without issue. ~~~ jefe78 Well said! I'm pretty excited to use these guys again. My last job used them and I instituted the template and stuff but it'll be nice to set everything up from start to finish. Its a great product. ------ joelrunyon MailChimp seems bound and determined to never let me pay for the service. I guess I'm okay with that. :) ------ kevinburke Awesome! Any chance you can get the site to load more quickly? ------ nhangen Great for free users - my concern is that it won't scale or that they're not as profitable as they'd like to be. ~~~ amdev I work at MailChimp. I don't worry about that. ~~~ dlib I've often wondered why MailChimp doesn't offer more support for transactional mails. I know there is some stuff in the API but it seems bolted on (am I wrong?). I would really like to use the standard templating for email campaigns that MailChimp has, and use it for transactional mails. An API call to MailChimp with some some arguments would then send a template, the variables (dynamically) filled in, to the user. Email campaigns are so easy in MailChimp and I'd like to maintain the look of those mails in my transactional mails. Nonetheless, you guys provide a great service! ~~~ gtuhl We do have transactional support via Amazon SES now: [http://blog.mailchimp.com/mailchimp-launches- transactional-e...](http://blog.mailchimp.com/mailchimp-launches- transactional-email-service-on-top-of-amazon-ses/) It rolled out this very week. ------ ez77 Just curious: when they write "Unlimited", what exactly do they mean? Wouldn't this be a spammer's good investement? ~~~ amdev I work at MailChimp. The answer is nope. ~~~ ez77 Thanks for your answer. I imagined so. But I could also think of some legitimate heavy-duty users who could threaten your profitability. Is there any fine print for those cases? ~~~ cmorrisrsg No fine-print. Our high volume plans for large email lists are not unlimited, but smaller lists are completely free to send as much as they want. In practice, you'll hit our anti-spam limits long before you hurt our profitability if you try to send lots of email to a smaller list. ~~~ ez77 Thanks for the explanation. I'm glad you stopped lurking, and to have tripled your karma! ------ jkahn Does anyone know of an easy way to migrate to MailChimp from Aweber? ~~~ vaksel You can just do a bulk import. So download your aweber list csv and then just upload it to mailchimp. The only problem is that autoresponders don't seem to work for old users unless you do a dirty hack ~~~ jkahn Does the bulk import send everyone a resubscribe message? I've got a very small list (sub 100 people) of customers and prospects that I meet with IRL, and I don't want to annoy them by asking them to subscribe again to a list they've already subscribed to. ~~~ cmorrisrsg No, bulk importing does not send a resubscribe message. MailChimp assumes that if you have access to the address list, then you have permission to send. ------ mise I wish they gave better campaign-like reporting for autoresponders.
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Spanish actor detained after ridiculing 'God and the Virgin Mary' in FB post - paganel https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/12/spanish-actor-detained-after-ridiculing-god-and-the-virgin-mary ====== tropo This is a shock. In modern times, this sort of enforcement is normally only done for other religions. Try it in the UK, and also an equivalently offensive statement for the most popular alternative religion. The results will make clear who has power and who doesn't. ------ squarefoot What an idiot. He wanted to do the right thing but failed in the worst possible way: if you want to attack power abuse by the religious mafia do it rather the George Carlin way: make it creative, brilliant and choose wisely every word so that anyone who is feeling offended by them would also ridicule themselves just by replying with outrage.
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Mercure: Server-sent live updates – protocol and reference implementation - based2 https://github.com/dunglas/mercure ====== based2 [https://linuxfr.org/news/mercure-un-nouveau-protocole-web- po...](https://linuxfr.org/news/mercure-un-nouveau-protocole-web-pour-mettre- a-jour-les-navigateurs-en-temps-reel-push)
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Show HN: Find the best time and place for a get-together - thomasskyt https://www.campstarter.io ====== thomasskyt I created this free site to help you find the best time and place for any kind of event. Create the poll and all the participants can vote for time and place.
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RAM instead HDD/SSD. - Sloven http://www.hyperossystems.co.uk I don't pursue any promotional purposes, but never heard about such drive before. ====== phamilton Aside from the seek times, this guy gets destroyed by the latest crucial SSD drive. [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148...](http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148349) If you want high speed ram-based drives, FusionIO is the way to go <http://www.fusionio.com/products/iodrive/> ------ iwwr This may work if your server's RAM is already capped out. You can already use RAM as virtual disk space, so this looks more like a way to add more RAM to a system through the SATA bus (perhaps with some extra interface sugar). Although, the main memory throughput can easily overwhelm a SATA bus. It's an intriguing piece of hardware, I am waiting for some reviews. ------ orijing I was following until I got here: _It also offers 100% secure file deletion (disconnect both the external and the internal power!). Flash drives can't offer this. Hard disks suffer from magnetic remnance and so retain their data even after they have been overwritten several times! But the HyperDrive5 is forensically wiped every time the power is fully disconnected_ Wait a minute, if the drive gets accessed quickly or if it's really cold, RAM actually retains its contents. You can't expect the charges to suddenly revert to randomness! Plus, this presents a major issue if someone wanted to sabotage you... If it's really that easy to clear the contents, someone may just come and clear it for you while you aren't looking. ------ binarray2000 SATA2 interface and DDR2 RAM... A major OUCH! That's like putting Bugatti Veyron Super Sport on a narrow and curvaceous country road: A pinhole that's just stopping it from literally flying (well, speed-wise, not altitude-wise). On the top of my list as a consumer grade drive (thou, we're considering to put it into the Win2008/SQLServer server on our LAN ) is OCZ Revodrive X2 PCI- Express SSD ([http://www.ocztechnology.com/ocz-revodrive-x2-pci-express- ss...](http://www.ocztechnology.com/ocz-revodrive-x2-pci-express-ssd.html)). ------ Sloven I'm looking for new config for my home pc. Before this article I thought to build RAID-0 with 4 sata drives, but now i would better buy this device. ------ astrodust This is an interesting product, and there have been others like it before, but what a shady looking company to be selling it. ------ lukev Very nice. But what happens when the power fails? RAM can't preserve state without power... ~~~ zdw Most of these units have an internal battery and CF card or other flash storage - when the power goes out, the battery lets them write the contents of their RAM to the permanent storage. There are also other options than the one linked: <http://www.ddrdrive.com/> \- pcie card, favored by many people running ZFS [http://us.test.giga- byte.com/Products/Storage/Products_Overv...](http://us.test.giga- byte.com/Products/Storage/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2678) \- Gigabyte's i-RAM, very similar to what's linked.
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Is Data Visualization Art? - co_pl_te http://blog.visual.ly/is-data-visualization-art/ ====== kordless Yes, because it can bring joy!
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Vue.js debugging in Chrome and VS Code - lobo_tuerto https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode-recipes/blob/b906210b75e157b1e4138a5598758b87e15fab3b/vuejs-cli/README.md ====== ramon Nice job! I love the performance of VS Code, now with Vue debugging capabilities it's rocking!
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Scaling your application on AWS - roshanpaiva https://medium.com/@roshanpaiva/scaling-your-application-on-aws-3f210ef18693#.44ac3mcej ====== eugeneionesco Spam, here's the talk this was taken from. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg5onp8TU6Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg5onp8TU6Q) ~~~ chrisnorman The link is already shared in the article. Good notes and good read.
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David Foster Wallace on Life and Work (unabridged) - rms http://web.archive.org/web/20080213082423/http://www.marginalia.org/dfw_kenyon_commencement.html ====== rogerthat Essay in the Times on this address: [http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/26/books/review/Bissell-t.htm...](http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/26/books/review/Bissell-t.html) Nicer (IMHO) WSJ format of Foster's address without the extraneous stylistic emphases found in the Marginalia version: <http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122178211966454607.html> _"lords of our tiny skull-sized kingdoms, alone at the center of all creation"_ It may seem inconsistent but I find it nicely complements Will Ferrell's commencement speech at Harvard: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVu8jfhcO9k> ~~~ rms This essay came up yesterday in response to a short PG essay. <http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=781583> The WSJ one is certainly easier to read and doesn't lose much but the almost excessive stylistic emphasis is what Wallace does; I'll talk the unabridged version. I do wonder if Wallace himself edited the essay for publication or if it was edited externally. ~~~ rogerthat Marginalia received a DMCA takedown notice for their original copy of the speech: [http://www.marginalia.org/log/archives/2009/05/so-very- sorry...](http://www.marginalia.org/log/archives/2009/05/so-very-sorry.html) But in the comments on their apology page at the link above, there's a reference to a book in which the address was published with Wallace's permission, as well an interesting note about an edit that Wallace made to the speech before publishing it: _An essay on April 26 about David Foster Wallace’s commencement address at Kenyon College in 2005, which has now appeared in book form as "This Is Water," misstated the speech’s publishing history. It was included in the collection "The Best American Nonrequired Reading 2006"; it is not the case that Wallace, who died in September, "never published" the address. The essay may also have left the incorrect impression that both of the following sentences in the speech were omitted from the text of "This Is Water": "It is not the least bit coincidental that adults who commit suicide with firearms almost always shoot themselves in: the head. They shoot the terrible master." In fact, only the second sentence was left out._ ------ bkovitz Oh, come on, folks. The DFW piece is ignorant whining. Some problems: 1\. The great many people who live "unexamined lives" tend to be much happier. According to the research, conservatives are happier than liberals, people in the Midwest are happier than people on the coasts, etc. 2\. The default settings are really, really good. You should be extremely skeptical whenever anybody tries to sell you that everyone is born "wrong" and needs to be "fixed" (circumcision, original sin, chiropractic adjustments for all children, etc.). (Vaccination and water fluoridation are the only exceptions I know of, and those are supported by actual science.) 3\. Same with anyone saying, "If you don't do this one thing (which almost nobody does), your whole life is going to be HORRRRRRIBLE!!!" 4\. Standard religions most certainly do eat people alive: the people who desperately obsess about them the way his (mostly imaginary) targets obsess about money, power, etc. 5\. The real message of the article is the style, and what it says, sentence after sentence, is: "The older, wiser fish knows that life is crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap. And BTW, you know I'm the older, wiser fish, because I'm such a soul-sapping drag. Oh, and BTW, I'm the older, wiser fish, and you're not, and if you can't see that, that only proves what a naïve little twit you are. One day, all you goddamned self-centered little successful optimistic goddamned twits will all be sorry!!!" ------ rogerthat Another great Wallace essay: [http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/20/sports/playmagazine/20fede...](http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/20/sports/playmagazine/20federer.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all) "Federer as Religious Experience" ~~~ rms Aaronsw compiled the complete list. <http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/offline2> I have the .pdfs of some of the paywalled ones, anyone reading this can email me. ~~~ unalone That link you put up doesn't mention any DFW articles. ~~~ rms Sorry, I must have pasted the wrong link. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AaronSw/David_Foster_Walla...](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AaronSw/David_Foster_Wallace_nonfiction) ~~~ rms Actually I'm pretty sure that I AwesomeBar'd aaronsw and copy and pasted the first thing that came up without looking at what the URL actually was. The right URL was second under my AwesomeBar for aaronsw. ------ springcoil I think this is a very powerful post. Something I regularly thinking about. Especially the powerful self centered posted ideas. I like PG's idea that we should embrace randomness and avoid our self centered ness. Its something I do struggle with evry day. this article unfortunately at times reads like a suicide note. ------ michaelneale I had never heard of David Foster Wallace before this. Thanks for sharing it, has really made my day. ~~~ brentvwilliams If you haven't checked it out yet, you should definitely read his essay "A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never Do Again." [http://harpers.org/media/pdf/dfw/HarpersMagazine-1996-01-000...](http://harpers.org/media/pdf/dfw/HarpersMagazine-1996-01-0007859.pdf) ~~~ tptacek You should buy the book; the Illinois State Fair essay is worth the price alone. Also highly recommended is the audio version of "Consider The Lobster", in which DFW implements inline footnotes _in audio_. I'm halfway through Infinite Jest right now (putting me many weeks behind <http://infinitesummer.org>, and I recommend it as well. ~~~ jraines The opening essay on television (E Unibus Pluram) is a great read as well. Another great one (from "Consider The Lobster"), if you're interested in linguistics and who gets to decide what is "acceptable" English, is here: <http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/DFW_present_tense.html> (Extremely long -- if any of the shorter pieces really grab you, you really should just go to Amazon and snag both nonfiction collections.)
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Flaws in Tor anonymity network spotlighted - kmfrk http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/12/flaws-in-tor-anonymity-network-spotlighted.ars ====== bengross I wish the article's author had done a little bit of background work to find references to the CCC presenter's research. Here is the paper published last year describing the research on fingerprinting. The second URL at uni-regensburg.de does not require an ACM account to download the paper. Website fingerprinting: attacking popular privacy enhancing technologies with the multinomial naïve-bayes classifier <http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=1655008.1655013> [http://epub.uni- regensburg.de/11919/1/authorsversion-ccsw09....](http://epub.uni- regensburg.de/11919/1/authorsversion-ccsw09.pdf) Dominik Herrmann, University of Regensburg, Regensburg, Germany Rolf Wendolsky, JonDos GmbH, Regensburg, Germany Hannes Federrath, University of Regensburg, Regensburg, Germany "Privacy enhancing technologies like OpenSSL, OpenVPN or Tor establish an encrypted tunnel that enables users to hide content and addresses of requested websites from external observers This protection is endangered by local traffic analysis attacks that allow an external, passive attacker between the PET system and the user to uncover the identity of the requested sites. However, existing proposals for such attacks are not practicable yet. We present a novel method that applies common text mining techniques to the normalised frequency distribution of observable IP packet sizes. Our classifier correctly identifies up to 97% of requests on a sample of 775 sites and over 300,000 real-world traffic dumps recorded over a two-month period. It outperforms previously known methods like Jaccard's classifier and Naïve Bayes that neglect packet frequencies altogether or rely on absolute frequency values, respectively. Our method is system-agnostic: it can be used against any PET without alteration. Closed-world results indicate that many popular single-hop and even multi-hop systems like Tor and JonDonym are vulnerable against this general fingerprinting attack. Furthermore, we discuss important real-world issues, namely false alarms and the influence of the browser cache on accuracy." Also related (no account required to download the paper): Compromising Tor Anonymity Exploiting P2P Information Leakage <http://fr.arxiv.org/abs/1004.1461> Pere Manils, Chaabane Abdelberri, Stevens Le Blond, Mohamed Ali Kaafar, Claude Castelluccia, Arnaud Legout, Walid Dabbous (All - INRIA Sophia Antipolis / INRIA Rhône-Alpes) "Privacy of users in P2P networks goes far beyond their current usage and is a fundamental requirement to the adoption of P2P protocols for legal usage. In a climate of cold war between these users and anti-piracy groups, more and more users are moving to anonymizing networks in an attempt to hide their identity. However, when not designed to protect users information, a P2P protocol would leak information that may compromise the identity of its users. In this paper, we first present three attacks targeting BitTorrent users on top of Tor that reveal their real IP addresses. In a second step, we analyze the Tor usage by BitTorrent users and compare it to its usage outside of Tor. Finally, we depict the risks induced by this de-anonymization and show that users' privacy violation goes beyond BitTorrent traffic and contaminates other protocols such as HTTP." ------ mike-cardwell This exact same flaw exists for HTTPS. Well, SSL in general. It's not Tor specific. ~~~ jmillikin HTTPS/TLS doesn't try to anonymize which site a client is accessing; any intermediate can read the address of outgoing packets to determine the server's identity. It's a little trickier when a server supports SNI, but few do. TOR is supposed to prevent intermediaries from determining which sites a client is browsing, which is why this technique is interesting. ~~~ mike-cardwell You can use this technique with Tor to make a reasonable guess if a user on your LAN is visiting a certain website. You can also use this technique with plain https to see if a user that visits a certain website is downloading certain files from it, or accessing certain pages inside the website. It is an interesting attack, but it's not one to get seriously worried about. ~~~ getsat > You can also use this technique with plain https to see if a user that > visits a certain website is downloading certain files from it, or accessing > certain pages inside the website. How do you do this when all the HTTP headers (the Server: and actual GET/POST) are part of the encrypted stream of data? You can't even see the specific domain they're trying to access, only the host/ip of the server. Am I missing something? ~~~ mike-cardwell I explained this in a comment further up. I'll repeat here: It's just simple traffic analysis. A page load generates a certain number of request/responses. Each request and response is a specific size, and will be transferred in a specific order. You create a fingerprint of that and it doesn't matter if the page is opened via a plain http channel, or https, or over Tor, The fingerprint will be the same (almost). ~~~ getsat Thanks for the explanation. I misunderstood the context of your comment. ------ jmillikin I'm doubtful of their 55-60% accuracy claim; how could a statistical analysis of encrypted traffic differentiate between samizdat and benign text? Or, more relevantly, whether someone browsing Wikipedia is looking up Tienanmen or just porn? ~~~ mike-cardwell It's just simple traffic analysis. A page load generates a certain number of request/responses. Each request and response is a specific size, and will be transferred in a specific order. You create a fingerprint of that and it doesn't matter if the page is opened via a plain http channel, or https, or over Tor, The fingerprint will be the same (almost). ~~~ justsee But it's not that simple if the client is running as a relaying node as well, is it? The mixture of client traffic and relay traffic would make traffic analysis much more difficult. Of course if you're that interesting that your ISP is doing traffic analysis on your connection you quite possibly have more pressing security issues. ~~~ gwern Merely reduces the statistical power, doesn't make the inferences go away completely. And there may be techniques for filtering out relayed material - perhaps relay traffic emerges from the node quickly enough that an observer can then figure out what entering traffic was just being relayed and remove it from consideration (always a concern with a high-performance mix network since you can't randomize retransmission as strongly as you could with email mix networks like Mixmaster where you could wait hours, without rendering it unusable) or relay traffic is constant enough that one can assume any 'spikes' are the user's traffic. ------ jondos Note that we at JonDonym will have developed a strong countermeasure within the next few weeks... ------ aresant I don't get Tor - doens't the risk that somebody does something illicit that appers to originate from your IP render its value questionable? EG the German arrested when a bomb threat was posted via Tor but traced back to his IP? <http://news.cnet.com/8301-13739_3-9779225-46.html> ~~~ getsat A handful of the highest throughput Tor exit nodes (named "blutmagie") are run by a single German fellow who is technically/legally his own ISP. Since it's not the same person, I'm assuming the one mentioned in the article did not go through all the same precautionary steps as the blutmagie admin. <http://anonymizer2.blutmagie.de/>
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GDPR ante portas - liveweird http://no-kill-switch.ghost.io/gdpr-ante-portas/ ====== _o_ There is also one point that he missed. The internet is full of advices that are comming from half studying GDPR and are deadly wrong. 31 days to GDPR. I hope you at least understand it.
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Show HN: Shakespearean Insult Generator Web App in Go - bruston https://github.com/bruston/insulter ====== MegaLeon Love it! I'll send this to my Theatre buddies - we actually have the last showing of a modern reinterpretation of Midsummer's night dream and as you like it tonight - I'm sure they'll love it too!
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Ask HN: Why do I see jobs posting about Mino Games all the time? - phtrivier Meta: I keep seeing headlines like &quot;Mino Games is hiring developers in Montreal&quot;.<p>Am I the only one ? (I always assumed the frontpage was not personalized, is that the case?)<p>If it&#x27;s the same for everybody... why ? Is there some soft of partnership between ycombinator and them ? Are they simply abusing the submit button ? Does this violate the guidelines of HN ? ====== minimaxir YC Companies, and only YC Companies, can place ads on HN, subject to certain rules. ------ lostgame I, too, wondered this. Thanks for asking.
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SwiftTools: Find well maintained swift libraries - timkaechele https://swifttools.dev/ ====== timkaechele SwiftTools.dev helps you to find well maintained swift libraries for your next iOS/macOS/tvOS project. Just like the [https://www.ruby-toolbox.com/](https://www.ruby-toolbox.com/) but for swift.
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Google, a ‘school official?’ A regulatory quirk can leave parents in the dark - opheicus https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2015/12/30/google-a-school-official-this-regulatory-quirk-can-leave-parents-in-the-dark/?postshare=2671451564669854 ====== golergka Yes, if you use software to work on some sort of information, this software will have access to this information. Yes, if you use SAAS software, this information will be processed by remote servers. Yes, if you use proprietary software, you will not know exactly how is this information processed. And finally, if you have someone who is willing to work as school clerk, given how much do these jobs pay and how interesting they are, this person will likely not understand the complexity of these issues and will be a little bit lazy with their job, so she probably will not present parents with all the relevant information. Now, every single one of these facts seem obvious; how is combination of these facts warrant an article in one of the biggest newspapers all of a sudden? ~~~ danieldk _And finally, if you have someone who is willing to work as school clerk, given how much do these jobs pay and how interesting they are, this person will likely not understand the complexity of these issues_ I think that is naive -- the general population understands perfectly that Google tracks users and uses that information to display ads. The GAFE apps are covered by different terms of service that restrict the collection of information, but Google draws the line in plain English in their GAFE/GAFW copy: _We do not scan for advertising purposes in Gmail or other Google Apps services. Google does not collect or use data in Google Apps services for advertising purposes. The situation is different for our free offerings and the consumer space._ I think the reason why schools go for GAFE is clear and simple: the choice is between having personnel on staff for maintaining servers, computer labs, and troubleshooting students' devices; or outsource it nearly for free to Google. ~~~ pdkl95 > for advertising purposes Which neatly leaves out non-advertising purposes. The statement even admits to collecting data _for other purposes_ in the negative - otherwise the would simply say they "scan ... collect or use" the data at all. This is just like the word-games the NSA likes to play when they insist they aren't collecting data "under _this phone records program_ ". Both Google (for collecting and aggregating data) and the schools (for giving the data to a 3rd party) should be held liable for anything that happens from this data collection. ~~~ michaelt Well, presumably Google scans the e-mails for search indexing, for virus detection, and for spam filtering; and collect the e-mails for when the user asks to search or retrieve them. ~~~ newjersey Exactly! I want to support stronger privacy but this just smells like someone wants one big payout for themselves. IF it were found that Google were sharing student information with anyone, including the government, things might be different (well not the government anymore thanks CISA) but I could understand if they were caught selling the information to others or snooping on their users' emails and using that in a court case (looking at you, Microsoft you can't undo that). Articles like these hurts privacy because they cause noise where none is deserved and people just get tired of hearing things like this that they ignore legitimate worries like CISA. ~~~ kuschku > IF it were found that Google were sharing student information with anyone, > including the government Well, Snowden has shown us exactly that. Google participating voluntarily in PRISM. ------ MikeNomad What I find far more... something than FERPA being described as "an obscure law," is how brazen and obvious Google is about breaking it. If Google is a "School Official," their FERPA obligations do not stop at any point short of/when operating in that capacity. Further, the idea that they can somehow "switch hats," and somehow maintain discrete sets of both FERPA and non-FERPA behaviors is at best naive, and at worst a conspiracy to commit various felonies. The money shot of the article: EPIC didn't have standing when they filed their lawsuit, not that they were wrong with regard to laws being broken. With that, I hope entire school districts of parents with school age children file suit. ~~~ tamana The judicial branch's abuse of "standing" to refuse to hear cases is one of the great injustices in USA. This was a huge deal in the USA PATRIOT domestic spying cases, where courts refused to hear lawsuits about spying, because plaintiffs couldn't prove they were being spied on before they won the right to collect evidence, because it was illegal for libraries/banks/IT companies disclose the spying! ~~~ themartorana I completely agree. In civil suits it may make sense, but when someone brings up a possible violation of federal law by another party, they shouldn't have to be harmed directly, they're helping prevent their fellow citizens from being harmed by someone or something breaking established law. It's really sad. ------ mikegerwitz Related: [https://www.eff.org/issues/student- privacy/](https://www.eff.org/issues/student-privacy/) As a parent with a child entering Kindergarten this upcoming school year, and as an avid privacy and free software advocate, I'm not looking forward to the types of discussions that I'm likely going to have to have with our schools. The reality is that these aren't systems that are easy to roll back---it costs a lot of time and money to implement, and then you have vendor lockin. So while I can hope for a receptive district, action is probably going to be more difficult. My hope is that they haven't ddone anything too disagreeable yet. Does anyone else have any personal experiences working with their schools? ~~~ analog31 Is there anything that a kid could install on a school owned Chromebook, that would protect their privacy? Tor? ~~~ userbinator _school owned_ If it's the school's, then I would just say no. It's theirs, they can do whatever they want with it. How about giving your chid a real general-purpose computer instead, running completely free software: [http://minifree.org/product/libreboot-x200/](http://minifree.org/product/libreboot-x200/) Just as Google et al. are trying to get kids conditioned to their ecosystems at a young age by pushing their product, those who advocate against them should do the same. ------ rubyfan I'm as adverse to reinterpretations like this as anyone but what might be more interesting or actionable would be evidence of what data Google are collecting and how Google are using this data. ~~~ timonovici How is that gonna work? You can't just sniff the traffic between Google and the students(SSL & stuff), and I very much doubt that Google itself will let you take a look in their datacenter. ~~~ tombrossman You most definitely can sniff traffic between Google and students, this is widespread and completely normal behaviour at schools and also on many corporate networks. School computers have a MITM certificate installed which allows decryption and re-encryption, usually for the purpose of content filtering and malware detection. ~~~ timonovici Oh. I haven't thought of that :) Yeah, given that the school has root on those laptops, they definitely can do that. ------ cs702 "Trust us. It's OK. We won't use it for evil purposes, because one of our corporate goals is not to be evil." ------ Animats All we want is your firstborn child.
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Update on Internet Censorship in Iran - Tor Blog - cosgroveb https://blog.torproject.org/blog/update-internet-censorship-iran ====== jdp23 The number of directly connecting Iranian Tor users in Iran has dropped from 10000 or so to virtually zero -- they've blacklisted all the known Tor nodes and bridges. It's the latest twist in the arms race ... "In a short few months, Iran has vastly improved the sophistication of their censorship technologies. Right now, the best option is to use tor through open socks/https proxies." ------ yogsototh May the next level will be steganography. ------ alanh Once again, consider where Iran is buying its networking equipment from. Aren't Western companies directly at fault? ------ bigwally A lot of Tor use is so people can connect to US websites that are blocked "voluntarily" by US companies. Google code, Sourceforge and many others block Iran. ------ samic I'm in Iran and the only left way to access free internet is now UltraSurf! government is banning every opportunity to access websites. some of banned sites in Iran are: facebook, myspace, twitter, youtube, rapidshare, wordpress, bbc, cnn, voa, thepiratebay and LOTS of other ones!! now you can imagine how essential was having tor! ~~~ mahmud Contact me privately and I will give you a VPN and unfettered access to the net, IF you promise me not to get yourself in trouble. Regards.
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We Need Cruel and Unusual Punishment - whack https://outlookzen.wordpress.com/2016/06/18/we-need-cruel-and-unusual-punishment/ ====== dalke It starts with the false premise that a psychologist can say that someone "is of no further danger to society." If that were true, then the solution is easy - psychological evaluations for everyone and rehabilitation until they are no threat! It then posits that a new criminal system would choose "a prison system, similar to what we currently have in the States." Which is a horrid system; what sort of people, working with a fresh slate, would decide _that_? > "Sounds too good to be true? It shouldn’t be." Or, why not choose the Norwegian approach? Low crime rates, jail programs to help rehabilitate, and their prisons don't "cripple the convict's future." It's almost as if there were other alternatives between choosing the US prison system or caning. > But what does that really mean? Instead of carelessly tossing around that > term, as though it’s supposed to end all debate, let’s critically analyze it > for a second. All that analysis, and not one link to the US Supreme Court cases on that topic or other legal definitions? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruel_and_unusual_punishment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruel_and_unusual_punishment) says "There are generally tests that can serve as a guide to what cruel and unusual punishment is according to various legal textbooks in accordance with the law. These are: 1) the frequency at which the punishment occurs in society, 2) overall acceptance in society, 3) severe (the punishment fits the crime), and 4) if the punishment is arbitrary." Caning in the US does not fit #2. > Our current system of mass incarceration is horribly broken. Agreed. > But in order to truly punish and deter criminal behavior, and do so in a > manner that imposes minimal long-term costs on both society and convicts, > it’s time we started considering other forms of punishment. Or, you know, a strong social net, more social equality, a reform of the prison system to treat prisoners as people and not a modern form of slavery, and other things which _aren 't_ simply a shift in how we punish people. ~~~ whack You've nitpicked a large number of details but failed to address the central point. If you have a convicted mass-murderer, and a wonderful rehab program that has succeeded in rehabilitating the murderer, what do you propose should happen next? If you say the prisoner should be released on some sort of parole, you've just broken the hearts of the families of every one of the murderer's victims, and also sent a chilling non-deterrent message to anyone else considering a life of crime. If you say that the prisoner should continue to serve a substantially long prison term, and eventually be released decades later with the prime years of his life taken away from him, you've just wastefully crippled his long-term prospects and potential. Taking all the punishment that is spread out over a long term prison sentence, and compressing it into a short period of time, is the only sane approach that avoids both of the above problems. If you disagree, we'd love to hear you describe how you'd handle the above scenario. ~~~ dalke I think it's proper to nitpick by pointing out when scenarios are highly artificial and therefore should not be use to make policy decisions. Why not use actual examples, rather than make one up? Look to Norway. They have a mass-murderer, Breivik. They have a wonderful rehab program. If they are convinced that it doesn't work, then the state will place him in custody for longer than the 21 year maximum sentence, in order to protect the population. If they believe he is rehabilitated, and his sentence is over, then he will be released. But don't confuse punitive punishment for preventive detention! Now, you argue that we should not break the hearts of the families of the victims. We surely cannot use that as our primary guide, for that means that killing an unloved homeless man would carry less punishment than killing the beloved mother of 8. Is that what you want? How much weight should heartbreak place on the decision? If the family hated their abusive father, and had no remorse over his death, should the murderer get _less_ of a sentence? I don't agree with the importance of "prime years of his life taken away from him". Do you think Breivik should have been caned then set free? Or that if Norway had caning for mass-murder that Breivik wouldn't have done what it did? Given that Breivik can play X-Box and is a full student in the bachelor degree program in political science at the University of Oslo, can you really say that his prime years are "taken away"? What do you think are Breivik's "long-term prospects and potential", should he have been caned instead of being placed in prison? Feel free to explain the likely long-term prospects and potential of any other mass-murderer you are thinking of, had they been caned instead of imprisoned. Does your argument change if the mass-murderer is past the prime years of life? Specifically, Andrew Philip Kehoe, at 55 years of age, who killed his wife and 43 other people (including 38 children). Now, he committed suicide, so it's clear that no amount of punishment - caning or otherwise - would have affected him. But if he had been sentenced, is your argument that it would have been okay to put him in jail for the rest of his life, because the prime years of his life were over? And you'll notice that nothing - caning, prison, preventive detention, etc. - can deter a mass-murderer who plans to commit suicide, so it's not like the threat of punishment (even corporal punishment) can be convincingly dissuasive. So, rather than construct artificial scenarios about a young mass-murderer who kill people from loving families, why not point to real-world examples instead, and argue how institutionalized caning would have improved things? And why not use as your baseline a country like Norway, with a human prison system, instead of one which is inhumane, like the US? ~~~ whack _" They have a mass-murderer, Breivik. They have a wonderful rehab program... If they believe he is rehabilitated, and his sentence is over, then he will be released."_ I'm glad you bring up this example. There are 2 conditions here for his being released: 1) They have to believe that he is rehabilitated. 2) He has served his minimum sentence, which in his case, is 10 years. There is no reason to believe that 1) cannot happen at an earlier point in time, compared to 2). Ie, he might be considered to be rehabilitated after spending just 4 years in prison. According to the Norwegian justice system which you're holding up as a role model, he would then be forced to spend another 6 years in prison, even though he's already been rehabilitated by then. If you don't believe in punitive punishment, then why do we need 2) at all? Why should Breivik be given any minimum sentence at all? Why shouldn't he be released as soon as officials believe him to be rehabilitated, no matter how quickly that may occur? Are you really going to endorse such a reform which will allow murderers to be released, as soon as they are rehabilitated, no matter how soon that may occur? If you answered yes to that question, I refer you to the outrage over the following: [http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/06/us/sexual-assault-brock- turner...](http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/06/us/sexual-assault-brock-turner- stanford/) If you answered no to that question, then you too believe in punitive punishment, even though you may not like to admit it. The only question remaining, is what form that punitive punishment should take. You seem to believe that the best form of punitive punishment is locking someone up in prison for many years/decades. I believe that the best form of punitive punishment is taking all of the unpleasantness that the prison sentence is designed to inflict, and compressing it over a shorter time period, so that the prisoner can move on with his life as soon as possible. ~~~ dalke > "If you don't believe in punitive punishment" Please define "punitive". According to [http://www.merriam- webster.com/dictionary/punitive](http://www.merriam- webster.com/dictionary/punitive) there are two meanings: Definition #1: "intended to punish someone or something". I'm for that. But c'mon, a fine for $1 is a punishment. An order to stay away from someone else is a punishment. Is that what you mean by punitive punishment? Definition #2: "extremely or unfairly severe or high". I'm against that. I don't believe in cruel and unusual punishment. Like caning. I don't believe in inhumane punishment. Like most prisons in the US. Just because I am against "extremely or unfairly severe or high" punishment doesn't mean I am _for_ no punishment. I can still be for moderate or measured punishment. Which I am. > "The only question remaining what form that punitive punishment should take" I do not agree with "extremely or unfairly severe or high punishment", no. As the essay points out, some people are much more affected by certain forms of punishment than others. The "extremely or unfairly" may be hard to determine. This is why Breivik is allowed to plea for a change of his conditions. This is indeed a question. It's a well studied question, with a long history and associated court cases from multiple jurisdictions. But as I complained, the essay ignores the existing concept of "cruel an unusual punishment", and makes things up out of whole cloth - literally, by positing a new culture which just happens to reproduce the US prison system and also happens to consider caning as something other than "cruel and unusual." ~~~ dalke P.S. Caning doesn't solve everything, even in Singapore. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Singapor...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Singapore) > Capital punishment is legal in Singapore. The city-state had the second > highest per-capita execution rate in the world between 1994 and 1998 Including [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misuse_of_Drugs_Act_(Singapore...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misuse_of_Drugs_Act_\(Singapore\)) : > The statute's penal provisions are draconian by most nations' standards, > providing for long terms of imprisonment, caning, and capital punishment. If caning is so effective, why is there _also_ capital punishment? Surely that will take away decades of the "prime" years of someone's life. Like Van Tuong Nguyen, killed at age 25 for drug trafficking.
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::&lt;&gt; - JoshTriplett https://turbo.fish/ ====== sp332 No Javascript, all the animation is in this CSS file: [https://turbo.fish/turbofish.css](https://turbo.fish/turbofish.css) ------ tmaly is this like animated perl operators? ~~~ JoshTriplett Animated Rust operators. This is the Rust operator affectionately known as "turbofish", used in the unusual case of needing to disambiguate a type.
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Announcing longjohn: long stack traces for node.js - mattinsler http://www.mattinsler.com/post/26396305882/announcing-longjohn-long-stack-traces-for-node-js ====== jameswyse This is a great package and I thank you for it, but why not submit pull requests to the original project instead? ~~~ tlrobinson I'm curious too :) I admit I've neglected it a bit recently, but I'd be happy to have contributors. ~~~ mattinsler Sorry Tom! Feel free to take my code, haha. I'm actually making my own version of the kegbot right now for our sales team. It seems like I keep working on similar projects to you. ~~~ tlrobinson No worries, I certainly appreciate the credit. It's a small amount of code, but I like to think it's pretty clever, so I'm pretty proud of it. If your kegbot works it will be more successful than mine ever was! ------ eldude Glad to see long-stack-traces is getting an update! Any chance you benchmarked it? I'm curious how the various long stack trace solutions compare. Anyone that's interested in this should checkout domains, now shipping as experimental in v0.8 or the async trycatch module (mine), <http://github.com/CrabDude/trycatch>. ~~~ mattinsler No benchmark, but it's been running in production for over a month and I haven't noticed any significant speed problems. Though admittedly I haven't looked for them. Domains look awesome!
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Inside the haywire world of Beirut’s electricity brokers - sygma https://www.wired.com/story/beruit-electricity-brokers/ ====== pboutros I grew up in a village 20 minutes outside of Beirut. We had 3 different power sources: (1) the 'baladiye' (local municipality), (2) the 'dawle' (regional government), and (3) the diesel generator by our house. Between those 3, we averaged 8-20 hours of electricity per day, but that was out in the mountains. "UPS" to me still means "Uninterrupted Power Supply" \-- a battery box connected to my desktop so that I could save my files and shut down quickly when the power went out. People who lived on the same power grid as hospitals were typically the luckiest -- they had (almost entirely) uninterrupted power. I have no idea how you're supposed to have a modern economy these days without reliable internet, let alone access to cheap communications (which Lebanon also doesn't have). ~~~ pboutros Also, @Wired: >Raham, like other operators, complains about repair costs; under-the-table operating fees—essentially, bribes—to the local municipalities in which they operate; the unpaid bills by some of the country's Syrian and Egyptian refugees who are using an estimated additional 486 megawatts; and the increasing cost of diesel fuel to run the generators. I think you mean Palestinian? ~~~ danielvf Syria is in the middle of a civil war, and borders most of Lebanon - it's estimated there are a 1.5 million Syrian refugees in Lebanon. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrians_in_Lebanon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrians_in_Lebanon) ~~~ weber111 Yes.. GP is correcting _Egyptian_ to Palestinian
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No More Boilerplate Code - corecoder http://blog.thecodewhisperer.com/permalink/no-more-boilerplate-code ====== vmorgulis Linq is a good alternative to reduce SQL noise. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_Integrated_Query](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_Integrated_Query)
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Facebook "Open Compute Project" nothing but hot air - gnufs http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/2011/04/09/#20110409-facebook_opencompute_hot_air ====== randall Anyone share the same perspective? As someone who's only casually seen the project, I'm curious to know what EEs think. ~~~ wcsun I think Facebook does not need to layout, test and contract manufacture motherboard for the servers. Each iteration in hardware cost lots of money. This is not agile. Better make the specs and have ODM companies handle that. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_Design_Manufacturer>
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LinkedIn launches incubator to turn employees into entrepreneurs - turoczy http://www.fastcompany.com/3003818/linkedin-launches-incubator-turn-employees-entrepreneurs ====== mooreds I think this is a great idea, though I would have loved for the article to be more in depth and actually had some quotes from one of the 5 teams that have been greenlighted. Autonomy at work can be so very precious.
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Making the case for that payrise the hacker way - mdisraeli http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/ ====== mdisraeli While reading <http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1591225> about asking for a payrise, there was lots of talk of finding your market worth before asking. This is the tool I use for that (Not mine, obviously). It gets source data from job adverts, so I assume that the upper bound might be inflated, and personal experience says that the lower bounds are typically shown as being higher than in practice. But the figures feel about right, and there is a lot of other nice bits of information too.
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Ask HN: are there any good reads on how to motivate others? - nathankot ====== ch00ey How to Win Friends & Influence People by Dale Carnegie has been recommended to me several times [http://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-Influence- People/dp/06...](http://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-Influence- People/dp/0671723650) ------ wallflower [http://scottberkun.com/2009/top-ten-reasons-managers- become-...](http://scottberkun.com/2009/top-ten-reasons-managers-become- great/) Especially #8 "8\. Self aware, including weaknesses." ------ caw If you want to go more of the Psychology route: Predictably Irrational (Dan Ariely, he has some TED talks as well) [http://www.amazon.com/Predictably-Irrational-Revised- Expande...](http://www.amazon.com/Predictably-Irrational-Revised-Expanded- Edition/dp/0061353248) Influence, the Science of Persuasion (Robert Cialdini) [http://www.amazon.com/Influence- ebook/dp/B002BD2UUC](http://www.amazon.com/Influence-ebook/dp/B002BD2UUC) ------ Reallynow I like two books by Dan and Chip Heath called (1) Switch: How to Change Things When Change Is Hard (good summary here : [http://www.veganoutreach.org/advocacy/switch](http://www.veganoutreach.org/advocacy/switch) .html ) and (2) Made to Stick: Why Some Ideas Survive and Others Die (good summary here: [http://www.engineerguy.com/white-papers/made-to- stick.htm](http://www.engineerguy.com/white-papers/made-to-stick.htm) ). ------ jfasi Google has an interesting way of setting goals for their employees, which is part of group motivation: [http://startuplab.googleventures.com/public- workshops-2013-0...](http://startuplab.googleventures.com/public- workshops-2013-05-14) ~~~ notahacker which likely inspired... [http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/29/magazine/dave- eggers-ficti...](http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/29/magazine/dave-eggers- fiction.html?smid=tw-nytmag&_r=1&) ------ dbla I thought this was a great TED talk on the subject. How Great Leaders Insire Action. [http://www.ted.com/talks/simon_sinek_how_great_leaders_inspi...](http://www.ted.com/talks/simon_sinek_how_great_leaders_inspire_action.html) ------ rk0567 Search Inside Yourself And the videos : [http://www.siyli.org/take-the-course/siy- curriculum/](http://www.siyli.org/take-the-course/siy-curriculum/) ------ LoneDev Good luck there...
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The Republican Party Isn't Really the Anti-Science Party - JDulin http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/11/the-republican-party-isnt-really-the-anti-science-party/281219/ ====== MaysonL Maybe not, but it sure does play one on TV.
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Fifty or Sixty Years of Processor Development for This? - curtis https://www.eejournal.com/article/fifty-or-sixty-years-of-processor-developmentfor-this/ ====== nostrademons Wonder what this means for system software and application development. There's a factor of 10-40x speedup by going from an interpreted language like Python/Ruby/PHP to a tight compiled one like C++/Rust/Ocaml. 2-4x going from a good JIT like V8 or Hotspot (or Go's runtime, though technically not a JIT). Probably another 10-100x by cutting out bloated middleware like most web frameworks or the contents of your node_modules. All this was irrelevant when you could get your 2-4x speedup by waiting 18 months, and your 10x speedup by waiting 5 years. It's very relevant when your 2x now takes 20 years and 10x takes a lifetime. Maybe this is why Rust gets so much attention recently. ~~~ jashmatthews I run a production Rust web service. The speedup for this service over using slightly stripped Rails was only about 5x. As you said, you can gain like 50-100x performance improvements from not using the default Rails JSON serialization and skipping ActiveRecord. After that, you're lucky to gain 5x performance from re-writing the whole thing in Rust. Most of the hot spots of serving web applications using Ruby are already written as native extensions. I think Rust is fantastic. I'm writing a tinyrb like "Ruby" VM in Rust at the moment. But... it's just not worth the hassle for plugging web services together. Maybe if you're at Google scale and already have web services in C++ it'd be a good choice. ~~~ 0xffff2 I find the fact that anyone can speak dismissively about a 5x speedup disheartening. Has anyone ever done a study on how much CO2 we are emitting in the name of "developer productivity"? ~~~ nostrademons It's probably less than you think. Humans - just by virtue of existence - produce a _huge_ amount of CO2, both through the air they breathe, the meat they eat, the automobiles they get to work in, the heavy machinery used to build those roads & buildings, the manufactured goods they consume, etc. And the CO2 cost of a developer isn't just that one developer's emissions; it's also those of all the support staff needed, from managers/admins/HR at work to the food service workers that serve them meals out to the doctors/lawyers/therapists and other service providers they visit to the parents that raised them. It's almost certain one developer generates more CO2 than any reasonable number of servers that run their code. Anything that reduces manpower costs is a net positive for emissions. Besides, when the equation changes (say, when the software enters maintenance mode but the servers stay up), they'll be a strong economic incentive to spend the developer time to rewrite it more efficiently. ~~~ nkurz _It 's almost certain one developer generates more CO2 than any reasonable number of servers that run their code._ I'm not so sure. Let's do a back-of-the-envelope estimate. Assume a single really hefty server that consumes 1 kilowatt. Over one year, this is about 10,000 kw hr. 1 kw hr of electricity produced by a coal fired plant generates about 1 kg of CO2 ([https://carbonpositivelife.com/co2-per- kwh-of-electricity/](https://carbonpositivelife.com/co2-per-kwh-of- electricity/)). Thus that big server running for a year produces about 10 metric tons of CO2. An average American lifestyle (all in, total country production divided by population, [https://www.theguardian.com/environment/datablog/2009/sep/02...](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/datablog/2009/sep/02/carbon- emissions-per-person-capita)) involves the production about about 20 tons of CO2 per year. So if you write code that full-time on more than 2 really big servers per year, your code might be producing more CO2 than the rest of your lifestyle. I'm guessing that most of the errors in this are probably overestimating the code's CO2 (probably not coal fired, probably less than 1 kw, a year is less than 10,000 hours), so more realistically maybe it's 4-8 servers to be break- even? Still, I think it's fair to say that there are some participants in this forum whose running code probably generates more CO2 than the rest of their lifestyle. ------ narrator Speaking of Moores law being dead this time, check out this old article from 2012 predicting we would be at 7nm Intel chips with 5nm on the way: [http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-cpu- processor-5nm,175...](http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-cpu- processor-5nm,17578.html) Intel is still trying to figure out 10nm because it is rumored that there are material science problems that are causing yield issues. Remember the 1960s when rapid gains in space tech made everyone think we'd be travelling around the solar system by 2000? The tech hit a plateau and stopped. Maybe we're in that situation with chip technology... ~~~ atomicnumber1 Why do we have to go below 10nm at all? We'll have hard physics limitations. Can't we improve on other frontiers? Say more cache?, better design ? More cores? Etc. I don't know. ~~~ tremon Probably the #1 area that can produce results is avoiding/conquering the processor-memory gap: while processor performance has been growing exponentially, memory (bandwidth) performance has basically grown linearly. There is now a factor 1,000 difference between processor/memory speeds compared to 1980. One of the areas that I have much hope for is near-data processing: since processors scale so much better, pretty much every peripheral device already has its own microcontroller. The idea behind NDP is basically to offload some data-heavy processing to the data layer. What if your disk layer could already preselect your data so the database wouldn't have to read and discard so many rows for each query? What if the network controller could evaluate your firewall rules itself, so dropped packets wouldn't have to interrupt the main CPU? ~~~ CountHackulus So NDP is essentially what Commodore did with their 1541 disk drive. That disk drive had a 6502 in there to complement the 6502 in the actual VIC-20. From what I remember, the IBM System Z mainframes also do this sort of thing and have dedicated IO processors that can decode XML on the fly for you and other fun things like that. ~~~ jacquesm Every modern hard drive is a computer in its own right. ~~~ sliken Seagate had a cool project where each hard drive ran linux and they used the physical sas cable to run a 2.5 Gbit network (or two actually) per drive. So you could use that as block storage for luster, hadoop, or similar and enable things like direct disk to disk copies. Cool idea, seems unlikely to hit a reasonable price point though. ------ api The thing that really killed plain vanilla RISC is memory latency. Compared to on-die registers and cache memory might as well be disk. True RISC is more efficient to execute but it results in more instructions and hence more code that has to be read from RAM. Modern CISC chips that immediately unpack CISC into RISC micro-ops are really something that I've termed "ZISC" \-- Zipped Instruction Set Computing. Think of CISC ISA's like the byzantine x86_64 ISA with all its extensions as a custom data compression codec for the instruction stream. We got ZISC accidentally and IMHO without us realizing what we'd actually done. The x86_64 "codec" was not explicitly designed as such but resulted from a very path-dependent "evolutionary walk" through ISA design space. I wonder what would happen if we explicitly embraced ZISC and designed a custom codec for a RISC stream that can be decompressed very efficiently in hardware? Maybe the right approach would be a CPU with hundreds of "macro registers" that store RISC micro-op chunks. The core instruction set would be very parsimonious, but almost immediately you'd start defining macros. Of course multitasking would require saving and restoring these macros which would be expensive, so a work-around for that might be to have one or maybe a few codecs system-wide that are managed by the OS rather than by each application. This would make macro redefinition rare. Apps are compiled into domain specific instruction codec streams using software-defined codec definitions managed by the OS. The neat thing about this hypothetical ZISC is that while 99% of apps might use the standard macro set you could have special apps that did define their own. These could be things like cryptographic applications, neural networks, high performance video encoders, genetic algorithms, graphics renderers, cryptocurrency miners, etc. Maybe the OS would reserve a certain number of macros for user application use. ~~~ deepnotderp I agree with a lot of what you said, but ZISC already stands for zero instruction set computing. Also, RISC and CISC instruction cache hitrates are pretty similar. ~~~ api Ahh I forgot about zero instruction set computing. Maybe CISC should just stand for Compressed Instruction Stream Computing because on today's chips that's exactly what it is. Cache hit-rates being similar may just show that the ad-hoc evolved compression codecs represented by CISC instruction sets are sub-optimal, hence my point about what might happen if we intentionally designed a CPU with on- board compression codec support for the instruction stream. ------ hinkley At the end of this he says transistors are now doubling every twenty years(!?) and it reminded me of another law Patterson doesn’t include in his graph: Proebsting’s Law: improvements to compiler technology double the performance of typical programs every 18 years. ~~~ marvy The derivation of that law is very suspect: [http://proebsting.cs.arizona.edu/law.html](http://proebsting.cs.arizona.edu/law.html) (go on, it's just a paragraph.) The key issue that this ignores in my opinion, is that a compiler optimization will rarely make last year's program faster, but it will make next year's program faster. Why? Because if the compiler can't make an optimization, programmers will do it by hand, even if it makes the code worse in some way. For instance, if your C compiler can't inline small functions, you would use a macro instead. When it finally starts learns to inline, your program won't get any faster, but the next version will be able to use functions in places where macros are a bad fit. Pile up enough of these optimizations, and eventually it starts to feel as if you're coding in a higher-level language than before, even though the syntax that's accepted by the compiler never changed. ~~~ hyperpallium > programmers will do it by hand Only if better performance is needed. Thus, corrollary: compiler technology will double program performance every 18 years, _but only if it doesn 't matter_. ~~~ hinkley Developers have a nasty habit of convincing themselves that things aren’t needed when they see them as too difficult. Even if the rest of the world thinks your code is too slow you can convince yourself it’s good enough. And in a world where we rely more and more on libraries, my ability to improve on a piece of code is greatly curtailed. Sending in the compiler to help might be my best option. ------ Animats Yes, we're kind of stuck on individual CPU power. Clocks have been around 3GHz for a decade now. There are now architectures other than CPUs that matter. GPUs, mostly. "AI chips" are coming. And, of course, Bitcoin miners. All are massively parallel. What hasn't taken off are non-shared-memory multiprocessors. The Cell was the only one ever to become a mass market product, and it was a dud as a game console machine. ~~~ PostOnce Perhaps it (Cell) would not have been a "dud" as you put it had IBM not been a morally bankrupt villain. I've read that Sony was under the impression that the licensing agreement meant that IBM would market Cell tech to other customers, those customers being in other computer markets like datacenters and stuff, rather than to Microsoft, for the 360, at the same time that the PS3 was still in development. "As the book relates, the Power core used in the Xbox 360 and the PS3 was originally developed in a joint venture between Sony, Toshiba and IBM. While development was still ongoing, IBM–which retained the rights to use the chip in products for other clients–contracted with Microsoft to use the new Power core in their console. This arrangement left Sony engineers in an IBM facility unknowingly working on features to support Sony’s biggest competitor, and left Shippy and other IBM engineers feeling conflicted in their loyalties." from [http://gamearchitect.net/2009/03/01/the-race-for-a-new- game-...](http://gamearchitect.net/2009/03/01/the-race-for-a-new-game- machine/) (it's a book, and worth reading) ~~~ slavik81 I have not read the book, but I have a hard time imagining any world in which the Cell could possibly be successful. Its heterogeneous architecture thrust a huge amount of complexity onto software developers in exchange for meager gains. Writing good code for it was difficult and expensive compared to other platforms. Sony was just completely out of touch with reality. In 2007, Gabe Newell famously complained that the Cell was "a waste of everybody's time. Investing in the Cell, investing in the SPE gives you no long-term benefits. There's nothing there that you're going to apply to anything else. You're not going to gain anything except a hatred of the architecture they've created." ~~~ wolfgke > I have not read the book, but I have a hard time imagining any world in > which the Cell could possibly be successful. Its heterogeneous architecture > thrust a huge amount of complexity onto software developers in exchange for > meager gains. Writing good code for it was difficult and expensive compared > to other platforms. Sony was just completely out of touch with reality. This was a different time. At that time researchers tried to build clusters out of PS3s - because the speed advantages of the Cell made it worth and "regular" Cell clusters were much more expensive. Some years later GPGPU became feasible and one could forsee that it will become faster than the Cell, too, in near future - and at that time the same kind of researchers dropped their PS3 clusters and built GPGPU clusters. Don't tell me that particular in the beginning GPGPU was easier to program for than the Cell. It was also the time when Apple switched to Intel CPUs. I know at that time IBM was also trying to sell the Cell to Apple, but Steve Jobs refused and decided for Intel instead. This decision of Apple and the decisions of researchers to stop tinkering with PS3 clusters and build GPGPU clusters instead were in my opinion the two landslides after which the fate of the Cell was destinied. ~~~ slavik81 I'm sorry, but I pretty much entirely disagree. > Don't tell me that particular in the beginning GPGPU was easier to program > for than the Cell. The alternative was to use bog-standard homogeneous cores. Yes, the air force bought a compute cluster of PS3s for some specialized calculations. I wouldn't read too much into that. It says little about the suitability of the architecture for more general purpose computing. Supercomputers were always weird. > It was also the time when Apple switched to Intel CPUs. I don't believe there was much chance of Apple moving to Cell. Their switch to Intel was because IBM could no longer seriously compete outside of a few niches. There's nothing positive to infer from IBM's unsuccessful pitch to Jobs. > This decision of Apple and the decisions of researchers to stop tinkering > with PS3 clusters and build GPGPU clusters instead were in my opinion the > two landslides after which the fate of the Cell was destinied. You're assigning far more importance to research group purchases than I think is warranted. They don't buy enough to create economies of scale. That's why researchers so frequently adopt consumer products already manufactured at scale, like the Novint Falcon, Microsoft Kinect, and gaming graphics cards. The Cell was best-in-class for a few specialized use cases, but it was never going to take the world by storm. If we turn to a heterogeneous architecture in the future, it will be begrudgingly, after all simpler alternatives have been exhausted. ~~~ wolfgke > You're assigning far more importance to research group purchases than I > think is warranted. They don't buy enough to create economies of scale. > That's why researchers so frequently adopt consumer products already > manufactured at scale, like the Novint Falcon, Microsoft Kinect, and gaming > graphics cards. This is true, but in the consequences I have to disagree: Very often from this kind of "abusing" consumer products for research purposes there emerge quite interesting applications that _do_ become quite popular and economically important. For example from such research there came the idea to use the Kinect as a 3D scanner - from this commercial applications emerged. Or from GPGPU (which at the beginning NVidia was quite the opposite of enthusiastic about) CUDA and later OpenCL emerged (which is much better to program for than abusing vertex and fragment shaders). That is why I considered it is quite important for the future of the Cell when researchers went from tinkered PS3 clusters to GPGPU and called this a "landslide event for the future of the Cell". ------ monochromatic Mirror: [https://web.archive.org/web/20180404023027/https://www.eejou...](https://web.archive.org/web/20180404023027/https://www.eejournal.com/article/fifty- or-sixty-years-of-processor-developmentfor-this/) ~~~ jaytaylor Also here: [https://archive.is/tY5Cl](https://archive.is/tY5Cl) ------ tfmkevin The problem is that we have designed ourselves into an architectural cul-de- sac when it comes to processors. We have fifty-plus years of evolution on programming methodologies built on top of von Neumann architectures. Moore's Law has given us decades of exponential gain without significant challenge to that architecture, and now that Moore's Law is reaping diminishing returns in terms of compute performance we are in the situation where we'd have to go backward forty years on our programming model in order to take advantage of a superior (given today's technology) architecture. For example, FPGAs can in many cases outperform von Neumann machines by orders of magnitude in terms of compute performance and (more importantly) performance per watt. However, the programming model and ecosystem for FPGAs is worse than primitive. Something you could write in a couple hundred lines of C code could take months to get up and running on an FPGA. We need a way to transition from von Neumann computing to alternative architectures without starting over on computer science. Or, perhaps recent trends in neural networks will eliminate the need for that? ~~~ scroot Just this afternoon I finished reading David Harland's 1988 book "Rekursiv: Object-Oriented Computer Architecture". It describes a completely different way of designing machines at the low level that can support better programming environments at the high level. You might want to check it out. I believe we are going to see further balkanization between different operating systems / programming systems and computers based upon what they are use for. Cloud services will be the domain of what today we call "systems programmers" who work in compiled languages and care about speed. In contrast, we might now be able to get real "personal computers" running environments that teach their users how to peel back the layers and manipulate them — the long sought personal computing medium. This all could have happened back in the 80s, but we didn't have widespread or fast use of the Internet. Now it's different, and both of these types of systems can interop together in the blink of an eye because of it. Both will require completely new computing architectures. ------ mcjiggerlog It's not all bad - one upside is that you don't need to upgrade your hardware anywhere nearly as often as 10 or 20 years ago. I put this PC together in 2013 for maybe £500-600 total and apart from adding some RAM I haven't needed to upgrade anything and can still run games on highish settings. ~~~ criley2 You can probably run 2016-2018 games on medium settings if you are not interested in 60fps. I imagine you can play no graphically intense game @60fps at any respectable resolution. I say this because building a computer which can play say Assassin's Creed Origins or Far Cry 5 at 1080p60 High Settings would easy run you over a $1000 right now, due in no small part to the extravagantly over-priced GPUs. Heck, it costs $400-600 to get a GPU to play those games on medium to medium high right now. Not a computer, JUST the graphics chip to get 60fps on medium. Crypto has destroyed affordable PC gaming and it makes me so sad. I can recommend Alienwares on sale that are dramatically cheaper than self-built. What happened to this industry :( ~~~ mort96 60 FPS? I had a desktop I built in 2014, with a 4770k and an r9 290x, run Overwatch at 144 FPS at 1440p with low settings. The machine could still play Just Case 3 and GTA 5 (2015 games, but I didn't really play any graphically intensive 2016+ games on it) at 1080p 60 FPS with decent graphics settings, if I recall correctly. I have since upgraded to a 6700k and 1080Ti, but that 2014 hardware lasted well into 2017 - and the current GPU cost just under 3/4 the price of the entire 2014 computer, despite the r9 290x being a top of the line GPU. High end PC gaming definitely isn't affordable anymore. ~~~ AstralStorm That is mostly due to cost of GPUs having been inflated by miners and perhaps the expense of having a huge monitor. Neither CPU nor GPU are progressing as fast as some predicted anymore. Additionally the shift to consoles as stable hardware platforms over time has put a damper on computing power required by economically viable games. The remaining outlets are VR and huge resolution (same thing actually) - and high quality and fidelity simulations. (Including AI.) ------ steve_musk What is the limit on creating bigger chips? If some of the money/effort was focused on being able to fab larger chips instead of decreasing feature size... I don't know much about lithography so maybe the answer is obvious to those that do. ~~~ KaiserPro Chips are fabb'd on a large wafer, which is then split up (see here: [https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/003/150/280/9b6a64c4d8ed...](https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/003/150/280/9b6a64c4d8ed23068b87cd56737810ca_large.jpg?1421462097) ) Now, the process isnt perfect, and you hear a lot about "yield" Which is basically how many chips on a wafer are not working to spec. Now, as you make a chip bigger, you increase the chance of a mistake. This reduces the "yield" and drives up the cost. (I'm not sure if its actually possible to make a full sized wafer without a mistake, I'll defer that to someone who knows) In some cases those broken chips arn't all that bad, so they are shipped with the broken bits deactivated (This could be lies, but I think some AMD procs were done like this ) yes, there are other factors like propagation time, but thats solved by not having chip wide cache coherency. ~~~ sp332 You don't increase the chance of a mistake, you increase the cost of a mistake because each little defect means you're throwing out a whole chip. The larger each chip is, the more expensive each little defect is. Sony had a hard time when they were ramping up Cell processor production, so they designed the chips with 8 SPEs but only shipped them with 7 activated. That way if a defect happened to be in one of the SPEs, they could just turn it off and still ship the chip. ------ fouc Found an older youtube video that touches on the same topic: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FtEGIp3a_M](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FtEGIp3a_M) ------ rstuart4133 There is a lot of focus on the end of Moore's law here, but it isn't main driver of what's happening. The slow down we are seeing is driven by the end of Dennard scaling. There is a thermal dissipation limit of 200W per chip for air cooling. We hit that decades ago of course, but it didn't matter while Dennard scaling kept dropping the power consumption. Once that stopped we squeezed a bit more of stuff by being more power efficient, which boiled down to two things - turning stuff off when it wasn't needed and devoting the transistors Moore's law gave us to specialised tasks (like silicon dedicated to encryption or h264 encoding) that did the job more efficiently. However, that doesn't get you very far. Which is probably why he didn't mention 3D, even though we have it 32 layers of it now and they are talking about 256 layers. What is the point of having 128 CPU's on a single die just running 4 of them exceeds your power budget? Indeed, what's the point of spending billions perusing Moore's further? Or to put it another way again, the human brain fits roughly the same number of synapses per unit volume as modern 3D silicon has transistors. The brain's raw switching speed is roughly 1,000,000 times slower than silicon (1ms vs 1ns), but power consumption of a synapse vs a transistor is roughly 100,000 times better. So while AlphaZero learnt to play Go between than any human in a few days, it used more energy that an entire human (not just their brain) would use in several life times to do it. ------ jtbayly I wonder what will happen to the CPU, especially if it’s not speeding up much anymore. Perhaps with Apple doing its own chips, the CPU will just have less and less of the work assigned to it. ~~~ ianai At some point it was going to be germanium to replace silicon. ~~~ resource0x Remember GaAs? It was the Future in 1980. ~~~ deepnotderp He's talking about germanium channel FinFETs, GaAs was intended to entirely replace silicon, which probably was never going to happen. ~~~ Tobba_ GaAs logic is probably happening at some point, just not yet. All improvements like that which would be incredibly expensive to develop will be held off on until all cheaper options have been exhausted. It does seem to be slowly moving though. ------ hyperpallium So Moore's Law really is dead this time. And TPU's are only faster than GPU's through lower precision. Will compute at least keep getting _cheaper_ , perhaps through economies of scale? Is Kurzweil's magical next information technology, to carry on the exponential, anywhere in sight? ~~~ nootropicat Imagine asics for everything. I mean everything, like implementing a javascript engine directly. The energy efficiency could go up 2-3 orders of magnitude (looking at the difference in bitcoin mining between gpus and asics). Old gaming consoles had cartridges (with memory); I can imagine a future in which complex software is transported in the same manner, except cartridges contain specialized asics. Or perhaps a step forward - a chip making device in every home, an equivalent of sorts of burning music to cd. ~~~ iainmerrick _I mean everything, like implementing a javascript engine directly._ In that case, rather than a Javascript engine, wouldn't you have an ASIC for the script itself? ~~~ yjftsjthsd-h You wouldn't want a new chip per website. Maybe hardware handling of a standard library, though. ~~~ AstralStorm Or even just of the expensive operations like synchronization, context switches, DMA to cache from network interface... Wait. We have most of that already. :) ------ strainer This should be a sobering account to the remarkably popular theory, that given enough time we should inevitably make powerful enough processors to model a universe in sufficient 'detail' that creatures within it will be convinced they live and are as important as we find ourselves, in this one. ~~~ quickthrower2 If I were to do that, I'd put some constraints in to limit how much the creatures can explore of that universe. For example a maximum speed at which any matter can travel, for one. ~~~ strainer Even with the parallelism afforded by speed limits, a computer many trillions of times as powerful as we have today could not model the thoughts and life experiences of the billions of human beings and other creatures in this planet. Its not even clear that modelling thought in a virtual world has any equivalence to thinking in this world. It is clear that we are unlikely to ever model anything nearly as complicated as this. ~~~ eloff I don't think it's clear. How long before our digital neural networks exceed the complexity of our human biological ones? It's possible today with a super cluster of sorts. That is to have roughly the same number of connections between neuron type thingies - it still wouldn't be able to match our brains functionally - that's another problem. And yes our biological neurons are way more sophisticated than what we use today for AI, but again that can be overcome eventually. This suggests that it's possible one day to have computers some orders of magnitude better. If you look at it from first principles, of course it's possible. The brain is unlikely to be the most efficient design of neural network allowable in this universe. So given enough time, we'll learn how to build it better. Then it's just a manufacturing and energy problem to match the number of human minds on the planet. So no, I don't think it's impossible at all. Just ridiculously freaking hard, and not likely to happen in our lifetimes. ~~~ mjburgess It's not a matter of it being "hard". Nor is it a matter of "complexity" (how many parts something has). A simulation is a model which picks out a tiny subset of regularities in the target to _model_. There is an infinite density of such regularities to pick upon, because _we_ are imposing the structure on the target in order to model it. The target of the model has no "model structure" it has causal structure. That is, when light interacts with the surface of a mirror its interaction isnt "abstract", ie., some description. It is an actual photon interacting with an actual electric field, etc. To "model to infinite density", ie., to have every single test that can possibly be applied to a model come out identical to that test of the target, the model needs to be just another example of the target. The only thing which can be investigated in _any_ way to behave as light hitting a mirror, is light hitting a mirror. A digital computer is just an electric field oscillating across a silicon surface. It cannot be programmed into being a mirror, nor into being light. Programming gives the electric field a "model structure". Chalk gives a blackboard a "model structure". Lego gives a bridge a "model structure". Programming cannot not -- it is _impossible_ \-- give silicon the causal structure of light interacting with a mirror. Model structure is actually just an observer-relative isomorphism: when the user of the computer (chalkboard, lego,...) looks at it, the _user_ , is able to inform himself of the target by use of the model. To do so the _user_ identifies certain aspects of the model with the target. The model is not _at all_ causally alike the target. No amount of lego will make a lego brain. No amount of oscillation in an electric field will make a thought. Neurological activity, and indeed every causal mechanism of the universe, is only _described_ by a model. ~~~ narrator My argument against simulation is similar in thst certain algorithms for modeling physical processes can only run in exponential time. Protein folding is a good example. How could a computer simulation perform exponential time operations efficiently? It wouldn't work no matter how big a computer was made because the complexity would explode very quickly while reality can do it in real-time. ~~~ adrianN Quantum computers can solve protein folding efficiently. ~~~ ziotom78 "Can" or "could in principle"? ~~~ adrianN "Can" as in quantum chemistry is one of the best applications for quantum computers. ~~~ ziotom78 Sorry for the naivety, I am not an expert of quantum computing, therefore I asked. I am quite interested in the topic, might you give me some references, please? ~~~ adrianN Googling for "quantum chemistry computers" yields a number of interesting results, e.g. [https://www.chemistryworld.com/feature/quantum-chemistry- on-...](https://www.chemistryworld.com/feature/quantum-chemistry-on-quantum- computers/3007680.article) [https://www.technologyreview.com/s/603794/chemists-are- first...](https://www.technologyreview.com/s/603794/chemists-are-first-in- line-for-quantum-computings-benefits/) Or if you like something by Feynman: [http://doc.cat-v.org/feynman/simulating- physics/simulating-p...](http://doc.cat-v.org/feynman/simulating- physics/simulating-physics-with-computers.pdf) ------ aap_ > Maurice Wilkes first conceived of microprogramming in 1951 Zuse's Z1 was microprogrammed in 1937. ------ mtgx > _Consequently, the x86 processors in today’s PCs may still appear to be > executing software-compatible CISC instructions, but, as soon as those > instructions cross over from external RAM into the processor, an instruction > chopper /shredder slices and dices x86 machine instructions into simpler > “micro-ops” (Intel-Speak for RISC instructions) that are then scheduled and > executed on multiple RISC execution pipelines. Today’s x86 processors got > faster by evolving into RISC machines._ Going by that and the graph, then we can conclude that Intel saw the rapid 90's and early 2,000's gains because it was converting its chips into RISC chips? Also, that paragraph is basically saying that Intel's architecture has an extra layer of abstraction - so now we actually see that there _is_ indeed an "x86 bloat" and why ARM chips seem to be so much more efficient (assuming all else, including process node is equal). It also looks like Intel may have made a "mistake" going with CISC decades ago, and it tried to rectify that in the 90's. ~~~ blattimwind Which is not true, since ARM processors - the faster ones anyway - use micro- ops as well. Arguably µops are not RISC, either, unless you consider "very wide instruction word whose bits map to control lines" RISC. ~~~ Narishma ARM isn't exactly your typical RISC either. ------ JoachimS I found this article from a Synopsys User Group meeting to be very interesting. The steps and changes needed to get to 7, 5 and 2 nm are really, really big: [https://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1333109](https://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1333109) ------ Const-me I don’t think the main reason for Moore’s law slowdown is technical one. Intel enjoyed no competition for quite a few years. They simply lacked incentive to improve performance of their chips. In areas with healthy competition, mobile processors and GPUs, Moore’s law still doing OK. E.g. here’s a graph I recently made for top of the line single-chip nVidia GPUs: [http://const.me/tmp/nvidia-gpus.png](http://const.me/tmp/nvidia- gpus.png) The numbers represent single precision floating-point performance. The graph is in logarithmic scale and it looks pretty close to the exponential growth predicted by Moore’s law. ------ PeterStuer Couldn't find a video of the event, but probably this talk comes close? "Past and future of hardware and architecture" [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9KRq2Ns0ZE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9KRq2Ns0ZE) ------ awiesenhofer So, whats the way forward? FPGAs on Die? Asics? Or doubling down on EVU, Germanium, etc? ~~~ Tobba_ I think we're far from the ceiling on CPU performance so far, but we seem to have hit a (micro)architectural dead end. Currently a _lot_ of time and transistors is spent simply shuffling data around the chip, or between the CPU and memory, while the actual computational units simply sit idle. Or similarily, units that sit idle because they can't be used for the current task, even if they _should_ be - the FPUs on modern x86 cores are a pretty good example of this. FP operations are just fused integer/fixed-point operations, but it's been designed into a corner where it _has_ to be a special unit to deal with all the crap quickly. We've probably optimized silicon transistors to death though; that's why it's coming to a stop now. GaAs or SiGe are some of the alternatives there. Although there's still quite a lot of advancements there that simply aren't economical yet. For example, SOI processes at low feature sizes seem to be suitable for mass-produced chips now, but it hasn't made it out of the low- power segment yet. MRAM seems to be viable and might be able to provide us with bigger caches (in the same die area), but right now it's mainly used to replace small flash memories (plus some more novel things like non-volatile write buffers, but it's horrifically expensive). So we've probably got a few big boosts left there, but it's not gonna last forever. The next obvious architectural advancement right now is asynchronous logic. In theory, it's superior in every way - power and timing noise immunity, speed isn't limited by the worst-case timings, no/reduced unnecessary switching (i.e lower power, meaning higher voltages without the chip melting itself). On paper, you run into some big problems on the data path - quasi-delay- insensitive circuits need a _lot_ more transistors and wires, and the current alternative is to use a separate delay path to time the operations, which is a bit iffy. You do at least get rid of the Lovecraftian clock distribution tree that's getting problematic for current synchronous logic. In practice, the tools to work with it and engineers/designers that know how to work it don't exist, and the architecture is entirely up in the air. So it's many years of development behind right now and a huge investment that nobody really bothered with while they could just juice the microarchitecture and physical implementation. ~~~ nominatronic > You do at least get rid of the Lovecraftian clock distribution tree that's > getting problematic for current synchronous logic. No, you don't. You make it even bigger and far more complex. You can take any synchronous design, and refine the clock gating further and further, to the point where no part of it gets a clock transition unless it actually needs it on that cycle. And then when you're finished, congratulations, you've made an asynchronous circuit. Fully asynchronous design and perfect clock gating are one and the same thing. The clock distribution and gating approaches we already have are actually a sign of progress towards asynchronous design; they're just quite coarse- grained. Of course, it's probably not the case that a clock-gating transform of an conventional synchronous design is also the best possible solution to a problem, so there's clearly still scope for improvement. But a lot of the possible improvements are probably equally applicable, or have equivalents in, optimising clock distribution and gating in synchronous design - because that's ultimately the same thing as moving towards asynchronicity. So talking about clock distribution issues as a problem that will just go away with asynchronous design is misleading. ------ guitarbill Hmm, doesn't mention ARM once. A bit of an oversight, or a convenient omission when one is advertising a new RISC instruction set for "purpose-built processors"? ~~~ _chris_ "Purpose-built" means you can change the ISA to suit your whims, which for ARM requires you to A) pay for an architecture license and B) pay for the privilege of changing the architecture. ~~~ guitarbill I'm sure RISC-V has merits, in fact as a hacker who used microcontrollers I think that would be great. Certainly ARM isn't the be-all and end-all. Technically it's not even 1 ISA, but you still know what I meant. Not mentioning the most* used architecture though? Come on. * most = number of CPUs shipped ------ XenophileJKO I seriously wonder if cryogenic computing won't break out of this. From what I hear it is very promising by several orders of magnitude both in terms of power and speed. ~~~ hyperion2010 I heard a rumor that the big guys did the math on the energy costs for running the compressors to keep nitrogen or helium liquid and compared it to their projected cooling cost for normal computers and found that the compressors were cheaper. Trick is, apparently no one has a good story for super conducting circuit parts, so everyone has to start from scratch. ------ kokey It's also interesting to note that Fabrice Bellard has developed a RISC-V emulator [https://bellard.org/riscvemu/](https://bellard.org/riscvemu/) ------ tempodox Is the host down? I can't open that page. ~~~ krylon It worked for me, but the page took a very long time to load (1 minute or longer). ------ dannymulligan Is there a video of this talk available anywhere? ~~~ fouc Not sure, but this one might be similar: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FtEGIp3a_M](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FtEGIp3a_M) ------ excalibur So the moral of the story is that everyone with a grand vision and an ambitious project is doomed to failure, but there's still plenty of success to be had for those willing to quickly slap some junk together. ~~~ cwp To put it more positively, progress is made by stringing together many small incremental improvements. Even the RISC revolution started as a special purpose project that stripped away the inessential to achieve a specific, narrow goal. ------ srcmap "Moore’s Law are Dead" only for CPU. Moore's Law is alive and progressing at the same rate for GPU. Applications such AI, Crypto-Currency are leveraging that. ~~~ martinpw Actually not true. Perhaps surprisingly, CPUs and GPUs are progressing at about the same rate if you look at the high end. GPUs are all about massive parallelism, and if you compare against high end Xeons, the CPU core count increases plus things like AVX512 & FMA means they have been scaling similarly to GPUs over the past 10 years or so. Nice analysis here (URL says 2013 but he has updated his numbers to end-2016). Looking at the graphs, you might even conclude that CPUs are improving faster in some respects. [https://www.karlrupp.net/2013/06/cpu-gpu-and-mic-hardware- ch...](https://www.karlrupp.net/2013/06/cpu-gpu-and-mic-hardware- characteristics-over-time/)
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Nonprofit Community Stands Together to Protect .ORG - jonah-archive https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/11/nonprofit-community-stands-together-protect-org ====== jonah-archive Here's the initial letter being sent from EFF & others to ICANN and the Internet Society: [https://www.eff.org/document/coalition-letter-sale-public- in...](https://www.eff.org/document/coalition-letter-sale-public-interest- registry) And here's the site for the campaign: [https://savedotorg.org](https://savedotorg.org) (Disclaimer: I work for the Internet Archive, and we are one of the initial signatories to this letter.)
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Misfortune - runesoerensen https://www.teslamotors.com/blog/misfortune ====== chollida1 If you've never used the Tesla autopilot its a weird feeling. It's not a fully self driving car and its obviously not strictly human controlled. Unfortunately it ends up being more mentally taxing to use this hybrid approach than to just drive yourself. Consider highway driving, with normal human powered mode you are in full control so if you see brake lights a half kilometer up ahead you can disengage the cruise control and react on your own, everyone who has driven is comfortable with this. With this assisted driving the car doesn't slow down right away, and its not clear if the car just can't see the tail lights lighting up yet or if its decided it doesn't need to react yet and as such you start to second guess the car, \- should I drive or should I leave it to the car? \- what if it turns when I grab the wheel? Will I make things worse by driving? \- does the car even see the object up ahead? How can I tell, its impossible to expect the car to tell you of an object that it cant' even see. It becomes just more taxing to use the hybrid approach to driving and as such I don't use it at all. I have no doubt that the Tesla auto pilot is safer than driving, but I also have no doubt that it can royally screw up. I've come to the conclusion that some assisted driving, like auto braking for obstacles that you will imminently hit is good but the kind of assisted driving where it can almost automatically drive for you is not really anywhere near ready, if you follow Tesla's rules on how to use it, it actually makes driving harder:( ~~~ eclipxe I have a completely different opinion. What do you have your following distance set to? I have mine set to 6 or 7 and it starts slowing down well ahead of when I would slow down. I think you're over thinking things - just let it do its thing, but be ready to resume control if needed. I drive 90% of the time in Auto Pilot, and it makes driving exponentially more relaxing and safer. ~~~ argonaut Yes, but that's the problem. Just "letting it do its thing" and relaxing/trusting/ _expecting_ it to "do the right thing" is what leads to accidents like this. And if you trust Autopilot to do the right thing, and get into a fatal accident, Tesla will say you should have been paying attention! ~~~ sethjgore Isn't that similar to saying horseless carriages cannot be as good as horses? Our experience in driving is never compared to the experience of riding in a carriage or even harnessing a horse. Driving is considered a discrete experience in its own class. Perhaps our fears and expectations of mechanical error is ignorant of our own overconfidence in our own driving control. Are we always in control of our attention? Do we always make the most accurate observations as we drive? Why do we establish the experience of being driven by autopilot as something comparable to the actual action of human, hand-feet-sight-controlled driving (steering wheel-acceleration/deacceleration-dashboard/windshield/mirrors)? We cannot trust the horse to do the same things as the car nor can we trust the car to do be same as horse. We are on the cusp of moving responsibility from the human engineered transport (car) to the machine engineered (autopilot) transport, which transfer was previously animal to human engineered transport (horse to car). We will believe what establishes our worldview and ignore what demolishes the same foundations. ~~~ argonaut No, it's not the same. Not sure why you think that analogy even makes sense. ------ thesimon Context is probably [http://fortune.com/2016/07/06/tesla-autopilot-crash- material...](http://fortune.com/2016/07/06/tesla-autopilot-crash-material-ceo- elon-musk/) SEC statements are usually covering a lot of stuff, so I doubt it's very surprising. But I'm still not convinced by their argumentation on the safety of the Autopilot. >That contrasted against worldwide accident data, customers using Autopilot are statistically safer than those not using it at all. I can only cite German data [0], but on the Autobahn there is a death every 90 million miles driven. But that includes drunk drivers, old cards, old drivers etc. Teslas Autopilot being save in over 100 million miles doesn't really sound that much better, especially considering the smaller sample size. And in this case, the death could've probably been avoided by not using autopilot. [0]: [https://www.adac.de/_mmm/pdf/statistik_4_5_Unfallgeschehen_S...](https://www.adac.de/_mmm/pdf/statistik_4_5_Unfallgeschehen_Strassenarten_42780.pdf) ~~~ jsprogrammer Tesla itself claims knowledge of a statistical inevitability that a collision will occur while Autopilot is engaged. Some questions now are: What did Tesla do to warn of this inevitability? What did they do to mitigate it? What are they doing to mitigate it? Is there any way for users to reduce their chance of being a count in the collision statistic, other than reading and following all relevant disclaimers and warnings? ~~~ eclipxe Yeah they can pay attention, even while AutoPilot is engaged ------ suprgeek Note that another possible Autopilot Crash is now being investigated: [http://electrek.co/2016/07/06/nhtsa-probing-tesla-model-x- ro...](http://electrek.co/2016/07/06/nhtsa-probing-tesla-model-x-rollover- accident-pa-autopilot-involve-tesla-updates-statement/) As I have noted before: [https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=12012688&goto=item%3Fi...](https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=12012688&goto=item%3Fid%3D12011419%2312012688) TESLA really needs to tread carefully here to avoid giving the whole Self- Driving Tech a bad name. You CANNOT move fast and Break Things in this particular case. ~~~ cocotino >TESLA really needs to tread carefully here to avoid giving the whole Self- Driving Tech a bad name. What does it matter if it cannot be proven to be better than regular driving? ~~~ jsprogrammer Valuations of companies in the space may drop unless they can provide an alternative prospectus. ~~~ cocotino As someone who owns no stock, I don't care about that. I thought we were talking about advancing the mankind and that kind of thing... ~~~ Aelinsaar Talk is just talk, follow the money. ------ vessenes Tesla is surprisingly aggressive with media organizations. I think it's one of their hallmarks actually -- I'm not sure why they are this way, but I would guess that they have over the years hardened up in response to one-sided press (I'm thinking of the NYT article claiming their car died and Top Gear in particular). At any rate, it's refreshing to read rebuttals to journalists. My own experience is that it is very rare that journalists both want to get a story right and have time to get it right; the vast majority of modern 'news' is written by glorified bloggers on a deadline. ~~~ poof131 Personally, I think Tesla and Musk should shut up. This bantering back at the media might have been “new” and “cool” with other topics, but not when it involves somebody’s death. While it’s fine to respond to inaccurate facts, the catchy headlines (“Misfortune”, “A Tragic Loss”) and the condescending and confrontational tone is totally out of place. Stick to the facts. Talk about how you take this very seriously, are going to look more into it, but do believe the autopilot is safe. After a decade in the military, where bad things happen frequently, I couldn’t imagine public relations acting in this manner: "We bombed the wrong house, but this happens, it's war, the media just doesn't understand". Don’t give people the impression you care more about your business than their lives. Don’t dismiss someone’s death as a statistic. I want Tesla to succeed, but they are starting to leave a bad taste in my mouth. I remember my XO saying, “never get into a shouting match with an idiot, bystanders can’t tell the difference.” Ignore the media if you can’t respond appropriately. The real misfortune here is that somebody died in what was probably a preventable accident, not a poorly sourced Fortune article. ~~~ etendue Wanted to say that, in addition to agreeing with what you wrote here, I've noticed myself frequently nodding in agreement with your other nicely worded and considered comments. I prefer your version, but I would like to share a slightly different formulation of that aphorism that is equally amusing: never argue with idiots, they'll bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience. ------ iamleppert The numbers he quotes of "world wide accident deaths" and "do the math" is a totally ingenuous argument. It's nowhere near an apples to apples comparison. The fact of the matter is, a Tesla driver is not your regular driver. A better test would be to give everyone with a Honda Civic some kind of autopilot. The data that they do have is a curiosity at best, and cannot be compared vis a vis regular joe blow accident data. ~~~ sverige Wait, what? Do you mean that buying a Tesla makes you a good driver, or the kind of driver who watches Harry Potter movies while tooling down the highway? ------ joshdickson These comments are absurd. Fortune did not "assume that Tesla had complete information from the moment this accident occurred." Fortune merely noted that there was a long period of time between the time of the accident and when the information was disclosed. Fortune is not saying that Tesla _did_ have knowledge of what happened, it's saying that Tesla _should_ have had knowledge. And Fortune is saying that Tesla should have investigated more quickly _especially_ considering the impending stock sale. Perhaps they did not because Tesla feels as though the death is not "material." Musk's logic on whether the death was material is so convoluted it defies any sort of logical counterargument, and is ultimately for the courts to decide. Regarding whether or not the accident was not an Autopilot failure, of course _technically_ it appears that the truck should not have turned, but this is what happens in normal traffic. We do not design autonomous driving systems with the idea that nobody ever breaks driving rules or laws, rather we design them with the idea that every crazy situation that we can think of, and a lot that we cannot, are likely to happen and we should attempt to avoid or lessen the impact of a crash whenever possible. When Musk says that there is "no evidence to suggest that Autopilot was not operating as designed and as described to users," I seem to have missed the marketing material where they say that the features work only when other drivers follow traffic laws. It's one thing if a construction crane drops on top of the vehicle (cannot be reasonably avoided); it's another when a truck crosses in front of you (where we can take various evasive measures to lessen the impact of the crash even if we cannot entirely stop the crash from occurring, none of which were taken in this case). Regarding vehicle accident statistics, as someone who worked in active safety for several years (i.e. systems like radar-based crash avoidance that did not trigger in this case), when we look at these numbers to make comparisons, the entire idea as of 2016 is that when we combine a human driver with a lot of electronic help, you are far safer than driving without that assistance or if the electronics were driving for you. But Musk only compares autopilot, which is only usable in certain scenarios, with the entirely of vehicular death information (which by the way, is largely much cheaper, older cars with worse safety systems that lead to more deaths). We know for a fact that autopilot lulls drivers into becoming distracted and doing other things, taking their eyes off the road, etc, because it does not enforce drivers to keep their hands on the steering wheel (See NYTimes report today). The simple, obvious fact of the matter is that a Tesla would be far safer if it were using all of its accident avoidance technology _and_ required the driver to be engaged with the steering wheel. Yet it does not. As someone with experience with this technology (though not at/with Tesla), I would greatly like to see them push a software update that requires you to have your hands on the wheel while autopilot is engaged. Saying that you should do so is not enough when the tools to enforce it are there. Is is clear and obvious that that would make the technology even safer. Yet rather than accept even the tiniest shred of responsibility, Tesla has entirely closed ranks and blamed everyone else. I, for one, am disappointed in Tesla as a whole and Elon Musk in particular. ~~~ omarforgotpwd Tesla is pretty clear with users that auto pilot is little more than an advanced cruise control feature and you can't rely on it. The whole Auto pilot name is just marketing. It is really no different than a Mercedes with the same features getting in a crash. As these systems are widely deployed people will continue to die. What's important is that the deaths per million miles is lower than with auto pilot off, and that's already true today's. ~~~ joshdickson I worked on the Mercedes system and have driven it for thousands of miles. How the systems approach enforcement is entirely different. If you remove your hands from the wheel for more than a second or two, the system turns off. I can watch dozens of videos of people with their hands off the wheel of their Tesla while speaking into a camera on YouTube. I consider that very different. ~~~ omarforgotpwd Perhaps but at some point software has to let people take their hands off the wheel. It's very hard to say when the software is "good enough" to let people do that but it's a leap we need to make to get to where we're going. ~~~ studentrob > at some point software has to let people take their hands off the wheel At that point, drivers shouldn't be expected to put their hands back on the wheel. They should be in the backseat, which is Google's plan. There isn't time to put your hands back on the wheel in the event of a car accident. Planes get minutes to react to errors. Cars have seconds. Car drivers are more akin to train conductors who, these days, have complex deadman's switches that guarantee the conductor is still focused on driving the train.
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Java.next() - Clojure: The Return of the Lispers - bozhidar http://batsov.com/Clojure/Java/2011/05/12/jvm-langs-clojure.html The third chapter of Java.next() series. A glance at the Clojure programming language, a modern Lisp-1 dialect for the JVM and .Net. ====== efsavage I'd love to be sold on a new language, but using it by showing me ridiculous examples of a language I know reduces the credibility of the seller. It's an otherwise good looking article but when I see this: public boolean hasUpperCase(String word) { if (word == null) { return false; } int len = word.length(); for (int i = 0; i < len; i++) { if (Character.isUpperCase(word.charAt(i))) { return true; } } return false; } Where it should be this: public boolean hasUpperCase(String word) { return word != null && word.matches(".*[A-Z]+.*"); } It casts doubt on the other examples. I'm not saying Java isn't a verbose language that can get tedious, but let's use some decent examples. ~~~ swannodette It's doesn't cast doubt on the examples at all, your code is less generic: (defn has-uppercase? [string] (some #(Character/isUpperCase %) string)) This code can deal with _any_ sequence of characters: String, Array, PersistentList, PersistentVector, Cons, LazySequence, etc. Your example only deals with String. ~~~ efsavage Fair enough, but mine was not an alternate to his Clojure code, but to his Java code (which only checks String). Perhaps he should have focused on the functional efficiency like you did, rather than just bloated lines of code. ~~~ seabee It's still not an alternate to the Java, since there are more upper-case characters than the 26 your regex matches. But I'm sure there is an appropriate Unicorn character class you could use instead. ------ dotcomsmarties I've been coding Java/Python for 10+ years (C/C++ before that), and recently started on Clojure a few months ago. I'm having trouble grokking Clojure since I'm not a Lisp guy, but after stumbling around like a blind rat I find that Clojure's syntax is quite extraordinary. I hope Clojure will become more mainstream as more people use them, and creates more tutorials for a layman like me. ------ d0m I feel like when people are comparing languages, they are exaggerating.. For instance: public boolean hasUpperCase(String word) { if (word == null) { return false; } int len = word.length(); for (int i = 0; i < len; i++) { if (Character.isUpperCase(word.charAt(i))) { return true; } } return false; } or public boolean hasUpperCase(String word) { if (null != word) return any(charactersOf(word), new Predicate() { public boolean apply(Character c) { return isUpperCase(c); } }) else return false; } ~~~ swannodette Small inconveniences add up fast. For example [https://github.com/clojure/core.logic/blob/master/src/main/c...](https://github.com/clojure/core.logic/blob/master/src/main/clojure/clojure/core/logic/minikanren.clj). It's a 1000 lines of Clojure, I strongly doubt that this could be implemented in anything less than 5000 lines of Java split across 10 files. ------ th0ma5 I've been playing a lot with Kawa (Scheme) for Java, it's rather nice. ~~~ rikthevik What are the cool things we should know about Kawa? ~~~ cjenkins One cool thing is that the Google Android App Inventor is built out of Kawa. (<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_App_Inventor>) I believe Kawa is also currently a bit friendlier on Android as Clojure has some overhead. (More at <http://dev.clojure.org/display/design/Android+Support>)
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Ralph McQuarrie Remembered - voodoochilo http://www.starwars.com/news/ralph_mcquarrie_remembered.html ====== samstave Such amazing art in that slideshow. Its amazing how tightly the live action scenes of the movie matched those pics. Were all of these drawn prior to the movie? ~~~ commieneko The paintings for the first movie were pre-production visualizations done well in advance of filming. In fact, well in advance of the story. In the painting of Luke on the cliff looking down on Mos Eisley, you may notice that "he" seems a bit wide hipped. That's because at the time this painting was done, the "Luke" character was a girl. If I remember correctly, most of the paintings for the other movies were done mainly as marketing and promotional items, for books, posters, and art sets. I don't think he was as involved with the rest of the original trilogy as with the first. By then Lucas had a whole army of artists working for him. The original trilogy owes most of its look and feel to McQuarrie. I always liked the original set of paintings, where things looked different and strange. I actually saw many of them _before_ the movie came out, as they were used to promote the film in science fiction fan magazines. (The first movie came out between my junior and senior years of high school.) The later paintings are much more "on model" than the original, exploratory paintings, and not as fanciful. My cousin was a film critic at the time, and somewhere my brother has a press kit that my cousin gave to him that included a lot of goodies, including a very nice, oversized black portfolio of the original set of paintings. I wouldn't be surprised to find it's worth something these days, but my brother and I spent _hours_ pouring over those paintings, and enjoying every detail. It's one of things that got us involved in the special effects industry years later. So I feel I own Mr. McQuarrie quite a bit. ~~~ hammock That's incredible. Going through the art for the first movie, I imagine in my head a movie that is much more "fantasy" (the genre) than what came out. Like something a little more Labyrinth and a little less Princess Bride (not that Star Wars is anything like those two movies, just trying to articulate) ~~~ commieneko The original _Star Wars_ was a mish-mash of everything George Lucas liked when he was a kid, and some of his later adult obsessions. Old movie serials, children's stories, space opera science fiction are in there as well as a _ton_ of references to Japanese cinema in general and Kurosawa in particular. He was later to generalize this into a more general set of archetypes, but it seems to me that the first movie was very naive, in the literary sense, and very much a reflection of his love of the fantasy narratives of his youth. ------ citricsquid Not related to the story, but the starwars.com website is really very nice. So very easy to navigate.
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Looking for a Bluetooth stack hacker - explorer9 Dear YC hackernews members: We are looking for a bluetooth Guru to join our team, either as a consultant or a full time employee. Please let me know if you might be the one or have a lead. We are a medical device startup based in Los Gatos, trying to build a device that would help millions if not billions of people. You can reach me at [email protected] ====== jcr Hiya neighbor! I'm also in Los Gatos, well the mountains actually, but close enough. Your post/request needs to define _what_ stack(s)? i.e. operating system(s)?, hardware hacking (design)? There are a number of security concerns caused by the fundamental design of bluetooth itself. Given you mentioned your device is for medical use, the security concerns might wreak havoc with HIPPA requirements. EDIT: I realize you're using a brand new account, but putting some contact details and info in it would be wise. ~~~ explorer9 Hi JC, the key stacks that could be involved include HCI, ACL, L2CAP, and RFCOMM. It is an embedded system with no OS. hardware design has already been done, but we are open to changes related to the bluetooth part. Folks with security background would be even better (right now our plan is to handle security at the app level.) Thanks also for the contact info suggestion. ------ jey Please be more specific. Are you looking for someone to do hardware design, firmware development, create drivers, something else, or all of the above? ~~~ explorer9 All of the above is best. :-) We are looking for (1) someone who is familiar with the bluetooth stack, e.g. please experience with the stack source code. The objective is to port some existing stack to a specific hardware (radio). (2) Also someone very familiar with bluetooth chipset on the market. ~~~ jey To me it sounds like you have two separate but related tasks: 1\. You need an embedded systems programmer who has experience with porting complicated things like network stacks to new hardware. I doubt you specifically need "experience with the stack source code" (sic). 2\. If I'm parsing this one correctly, you need someone who could match your requirements and needs to the currently available hardware and find the appropriate chipset to use. Do you already have the hardware designed? ~~~ explorer9 Thank you Jey. Yes, we already have hardware designed, but open to changes if necessary.
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Broccoli: Syncing Faster by Syncing Less - daniel_rh https://dropbox.tech/infrastructure/-broccoli--syncing-faster-by-syncing-less ====== daniel_rh Hi folks, I'm Daniel from Dropbox, and I am happy to answer any questions about this tech. ~~~ Osiris When are you going to offer a cheaper plan with less storage for people that only need <50GB? I lucked out and have 2 free plans that have bonus storage from various promotions. I get about 25 GB per account. I haven't maxed either one. I absolutely love the product. My wife scans a file, I can grab it right away. I'm at work and need some document (e.g., my driver's license photo), I hop on the website and download it. I pay $5 for backblaze to backup 5TB. I don't want to spend $10 a month for storage I'll never use (I couldn't even keep that much synced on most of my devices) but I'd gladly pay $3-5 a month for 50-100GB. For now, I'll keep mooching with my free plan. ~~~ daniel_rh There's the family plan which offers up to 6 members an account for a great monthly price. [https://help.dropbox.com/accounts-billing/plans- upgrades/dro...](https://help.dropbox.com/accounts-billing/plans- upgrades/dropbox-family-plan) With Dropbox Family, each member of the plan has their own Dropbox account. A single person, the Family manager, will manage the billing and memberships for the entire Family plan. ------ manigandham This is why I continue to use Dropbox for daily work and constantly changing files. The syncing is unmatched. It’s surprising how bad the others like OneDrive and google drive are in comparison. ~~~ signal11 OneDrive completed its rollout of differential sync in April 2020[1], after beginning in Sep 2019. This should improve OneDrive’s sync speed substantially. [1] [https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/office-365/onedrive-c...](https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/office-365/onedrive- completes-roll-out-of-differential-sync/td-p/1343279) ~~~ manigandham They already had this for Office files, it's just finally extended to all file types after several years. It's still nowhere near as fast as Dropbox, especially for complex directories, and the fact that it took until 2020 to finish this feature shows how far behind they are. ------ AaronFriel I'm more of a security-focused engineer so I'm most interested in the "specially crafted low-privilege jail". What protocol gets data in and out, not shared memory I'm sure? Do the jail processes also have to implement an RPC server (protobuf/gRPC/HTTP?) or is there another mechanism for giving them work and receiving results? ~~~ daniel_rh Dropbox uses a similar toolbox as [https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/docs/+/master/s...](https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/docs/+/master/sandboxing.md) And yes, much of the overhead stems from the RPC server that needs to be implemented. For lepton we used a raw TCP server (a simple fork/exec server) to answer compression requests. For Lepton we would establish a connection and send a raw file on the socket and await the compressed file on the same socket. A strict SECCOMP filter was used for lepton. It was nice to avoid this for broccoli since it was implemented in the safe subset of rust. ~~~ AaronFriel Thank you for the technical answer! ------ rspoerri In my opinion broccoli does not go so well with bread (brötli = bread roll in swiss german), so some more matching name suggestions are: gipfeli (Croissant), weggli, pfünderli (500g bread), bürli, zöpfli :-) ~~~ daniel_rh Savory with a touch of sweetness, Broccoli Bread cooks up like cornbread but offers fiber and calcium. The original name was Brot-cat-li (since files could be concatenated and compressed in parallel), but when we said it fast it sounded like "Broccoli" and the name stuck. ------ vmchale Surprised they didn't look more at zstd. IME it's faster than brotli and often has a better compression ratio. ~~~ repiret It looks like they did, but having an implementation in a memory-safe language was one of their requirements. Learning _that_ was for me the most fascinating part of the article. ~~~ JosephRedfern Surely Dropbox would have the engineering power to re-implement zstd in a memory safe language if it was sufficiently beneficial. ~~~ nawgz I'm sure they could implement it technically speaking, but if a compression protocol is not widespread enough to have others doing such a thing, they can probably consider that a sign of how supported it is. ------ kevincox The header on the page keeps hiding and reappearing as I scroll making it incredibly difficult to read. ------ lifthrasiir > Maintaining a static list of the most common incompressible types within > Dropbox and doing constant time checks against it in order to decide if we > want to compress blocks There is also a format-agnostic and adaptable heuristic to stop compression if the initial part (say, first 1MB) of the file seems incompressible. I'm not sure whether this is widespread, but I've seen at least one software doing that and it worked well. This can be combined with other kinds of heuristics like entropy estimation. ------ no_wizard This is a really interesting write up of their use of Brotli! Makes me wonder if there might be a novel way I could leverage it beyond HTTP Responses. I never realized the advantages of brotli over zlib could be so extensive, in particular, it appears they're getting a huge speed boost (I think also in part that its written in Rust) >we were able to compress a file at 3x the rate of vanilla Google Brotli using multiple cores to compress the file and then concatenating each chunk. Side note: I admit, at first I thought they were talking the Broccoli build system[0] [0][https://github.com/broccolijs/broccoli](https://github.com/broccolijs/broccoli) ------ jeffbee The tradeoff between client CPU time and upload speed is interesting. If they need to be able to output compressed text at 100mbps, that gives a budget of ~100ns/byte, or pretty much what they would have been spending with zlib in the first place. But on my fiber connection I only have a budget of 10ns/byte. Does that mean you'd use the equivalent of `brotli -q 1` for me? If so, doesn't the march of progress continually erode the advantages of compression in this use case? ------ shadykiller Is it possible to use this as rsync replacement ? ~~~ zmj They aren't on the same level of abstraction. Rsync currently uses zlib for block compression on the wire. Brotli/broccoli would be an alternative option. ~~~ celias New compression options were added in rsync 3.2. From [https://download.samba.org/pub/rsync/NEWS#3.2.0](https://download.samba.org/pub/rsync/NEWS#3.2.0) Various compression enhancements, including the addition of zstd and lz4 compression algorithms and a negotiation heuristic that picks the best compression option supported by both sides. ------ lanius Is there a pun between Broccoli and Brotli I'm not aware of? There's another Brotli compression tool called Broccoli (written in Go), just a coincidence? ~~~ nerdponx _We codenamed the Brotli compressor in Rust “Broccoli” because of the capability to make Brotli files concatenate with one another (brot-cat-li)._ ------ tyingq Curious if there's enough of any one type of file that a specialty compression for it would be worth the added complexity. ~~~ daniel_rh Great question! We developed and deployed Lepton to losslessly encode JPEG image files. Lepton continues to deliver substantial storage and cost savings every year. You can read more about it here [https://dropbox.tech/infrastructure/lepton-image- compression...](https://dropbox.tech/infrastructure/lepton-image-compression- saving-22-losslessly-from-images-at-15mbs) ------ andrewshadura I wonder whether syncthing can use it. ------ Scaevolus None of the images are loading. :( ~~~ jainr Should be fixed now :) ------ rmhorn Good supporting data ~~~ ksoong2 Yeah, I really like how well the performance is quantified ------ myrloc Middle out compression has shown considerable performance over the investigated options listed in the article. I wonder why it was not mentioned? Just kidding :) great article. As others have said, supporting data was very informative.
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How to use GitHub effectively for your project - franckcuny http://lumberjaph.net/dancer/2011/03/06/how_to_use_github_effectively_for_your_project.html ====== thurn Feature and Review branches are a great idea. It just makes it so easy to work in parallel on different things, and to context-switch when you get blocked. Honestly, I can't remember how we used to solve these problems with SVN. If you're in the middle of developing a feature and need to wait for someone to get back to you, the options for switching to a different feature with SVN are pretty limited. ------ icco This is interesting. What I'm curious about though, is how does this workflow scale to thirty developers? 100? I tend to believe with six people or less, you can really work together with any system and it will work fine. Some will obviously require more work than others, but once you get to a larger team, some systems just won't work, AFAIK. ~~~ mkilling From my experience with working with 50+ developers, organized into teams of 3-8 people: Feature branches are the way to go. We used an adapted version of the git-flow workflow and it does scale pretty nicely. ~~~ SkyMarshal I like Gitflow alot, how did you guys adapt it? Was anything major required to get it to scale up to 50+? ~~~ mkilling We experimented with team branches to integrate work of the subteams before merging into develop, but that did not work out very well ------ codenerdz We also follow feature development workflow with git: [http://reinh.com/blog/2009/03/02/a-git-workflow-for-agile- te...](http://reinh.com/blog/2009/03/02/a-git-workflow-for-agile- teams.html#feature-development)
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Tornado Web Server - ajbatac http://www.tornadoweb.org/ ====== andreyf While relevant on its onw, right now, this is also linked to from both the top two stories... ~~~ jeremyw Hackers don't need expository, they just want the goods. :) ~~~ andreyf Hehe, touché :) ------ Hexstream Why isn't most server software (that can expect lots of simultaneous users) non-blocking yet? Are there any significant disadvantages with this method? Can we expect a lot more non-blocking servers within a few years?
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Skype 5 for Mac, but without the whitespace - roder http://pongsocket.com/experiments/skype5mini ====== jamesaguilar A "before" image would be helpful.
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Please Replace Credit Cards - seanmonstar http://seanmonstar.com/post/81400378235/please-replace-credit-cards ====== onion2k I have a better solution: keep everything exactly as it is now, but have credit card companies accept that the system is _slightly_ susceptible to fraud, and consequently have them take the hit if your card gets stolen. The customer (people who buy things and merchants who take cards) shouldn't ever lose out if they're victims of a crime. Currently credit card companies charge (some) users to have a card, charge all merchants a fee and a percentage, and take none of the risk. That's the thing that ought to change. ~~~ dalke They do take the hit. Under the Fair Credit Billing Act, your responsibility for unauthorized charges is $50, and if you report it before any unauthorized charges are made, then it's $0. ~~~ onion2k Things are not the same here in the UK. Since we got chip and pin cards the onus is on the cardholder - it is assumed that you didn't keep your pin secure. ~~~ seanmonstar And what about online shopping, where you just typed in your card number into a site? ~~~ onion2k There an "online pin" system called 3DSecure (also known as Verified By Visa) that uses a system of tokens passed by JavaScript to present the user with a form that's held on their bank's servers. Implementing it is optional for the merchant, but if they choose not to then they're accountable for any fraud. If they do then liability is passed to the customer. It's all very favourable to the credit card companies.
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Genetic Evidence on the Origins of Indian Caste Populations - meri_dian http://m.genome.cshlp.org/content/11/6/994.full ====== shanth Why is the article biased more towards Hindi???? Even Telugu is cited more but there isn't any word about Tamil?? Our history from literacy works says different!
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Resizing images before upload using html5 canvas - josefrichter http://www.rubydesigner.com/blog/resizing-images-before-upload-using-html5-canvas ====== oliwarner It's cool (it is) but if you just want to deploy something similar and don't want to get involved in the browser politics (IE/Safari/Opera don't support direct access to the filefield, and oh yeah, IE in general) you could do worse than to look at <http://www.plupload.com/> It supports HTML5 canvas resizing as well as offering Flash/Silverlight/Gears/BrowserPlus for resizing, and if the user doesn't have one of those, it falls back to standard upload form. And all under GPLv2 (only becomes an issue if you're distributing closed- source websites - eg a template, and perhaps not even then) ~~~ josefrichter thanks. I know plupload. I just don't always want a huge do-it-all beast with garbage like flash, silverlight, etc.. And feel like experimenting myself. My code works in chrome/safari/firefox. in IE the upload will just go the old way (no resizing will happen). ------ mgkimsal Did this a couple years ago: <http://kimsal.com/shrinker/> Code doesn't work 100% of the time - it was a rough draft - no error handling - but it's up on github - pull requests welcome! ~~~ josefrichter yep that's similiar. many things changed though. the first thing I can see is that I work with multifile input, filereader and blobs. ~~~ mgkimsal I'd hit some snags then the project I was doing this on didn't need it anymore, so... it's sitting in limbo.
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InPulse (YC W11) Adds A Smartphone-Like Experience To Your Wrist Watch - citizenkeys http://techcrunch.com/2011/04/10/inpulse-adds-a-smartphone-like-experience-to-your-wrist-watch/ ====== erohead In response to some of the comments from our post in Feb (<http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2221579>), we've updated our Terms and released local build instructions: <http://www.getinpulse.com/guide/local/>. ------ citizenkeys I've met these founders. They seem cool. InPulse is hosting a hackathon at Hacker Dojo next Saturday. See you there! <http://hackinpulse.eventbrite.com/> ------ modeless Man, the day these get a sunlight-readable always-on display and capacitive touch I'm buying one immediately. ------ pgbovine Obvious question: How are they going to market these to women (if at all)? Women's watches have to be much smaller than men's watches, and that will mean less pixels. ~~~ citizenkeys I really like your marketing question. Women do seem to enjoy accessorizing. They also like to shop and spend money. I think the size of the watch itself isn't important. What's important is whether the watch uses a standard size band. Unless they're goth or emo, most women aren't going to want a black watchband. They're going to want something that's pink with sparkles. The ability to use a different band is important. The GetInpulse FAQ ( <http://www.getinpulse.com/faq/> )should answer whether the watch uses a standard size band and, if so, what size. ------ hugh3 Interesting-looking product. But a hardware product, already in beta, sounds like an unusual match for a YC session that hasn't even started yet. ~~~ anateus They were in the YC session that just ended. ~~~ hugh3 Oh yeah. Sorry, I've been switching hemispheres too many times recently, and got confused by the seasons.
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Show HN: Member Since: Find out when you created your Yahoo account - quanganhdo Http://www.membersince.pw ====== quanganhdo I made this over the weekend to answer a simple question: When did I create my Yahoo account? For many, it was one of the first services they registered for. I was able to look for that piece of information easily in the past, but now it's been increasingly difficult to do so. Hence, this web app was born. Member Since asks for your Profile information, but don't worry, I store none of them. The permission was used to make one single request to retrieve your account creation date — that's it. Let me know if you've got any questions.
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Facebook facing class action lawsuit from Kansas lawyer over tracking cookies - tilt http://thenextweb.com/facebook/2011/10/06/facebook-facing-class-action-lawsuit-from-kansas-lawyer-over-tracking-cookies/ ====== natural_order Privacy 1 : Vanity 50? It's a start I suppose.
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Ask HN: How saturated is the market for offensive security/pentesting? - hd4 Answers relevant to the UK would be good, but if not then any info at all would be better than nothing. ====== erikb I don't think that's the right question. The better question is "How strong is the competition in the <XYZ> market". If the market is saturated but companies are weak you can easily grab market share. If the market is unsaturated but a very strong competitor currently aims it your attempt will probably just lose money. And the answer is often analysing google keywords, requesting a few security checks yourself from the google leaders, investigating who appears often in related media, and asking possible customers who they know and how they evaluate their options. PS: If you "Ask HN" your market research, you'll either find out about together with us that there's no opportunity in the given market, or you create competitors by highlighting an opportunity. ~~~ amorphid Another factor to consider is how unsaturated a market is (how much unmet opportunity is available). It's easier to break into a field, and get good at working in that field, if you're competing with anyone. Most (all?) fields have room for people at the top of their game, but some fields are simply lacking enough people to do the work. ~~~ erikb Agreed. Also unsaturated markets may mean that there is either not enough potential or there is a huge problem that isn't resolved yet. So yeah, I agree that having at least some saturation is necessary. ------ wvh I used to be in security auditing. I don't know about market saturation – that would depend heavily on your location, as it often requires some face-to-face discussion – but I think for security the saturation is less relevant than your credentials. Once a company decides to spend some money on outside security, they tend to go for a name-company with good credentials and certifications such as approval for PCI-DSS compliance checking. Once you provide the needed services, your name needs comes up as one of the go-to companies. Reputation and word-of-mouth are pretty important. For instance in the CC and banking sector companies are very aware whose services are being used by other companies. No company wants to give a good chunk of money away on something as sensitive and invasive as security checks without being sure they're receiving quality service and not some random script-kiddie with an automated security scanner. If your company (or the company you want to work for) floats up as one of the top security firms in your region, you will probably get a lot of business. If you start from zero with no reputation, you're going to have fight hard to get your name on the map. ~~~ quadcore Naive question: what if you just hack your prospect, without causing unrecoverable damages and show them you've hacked them, do they hire you? EDIT: ok thats illegal but isnt it in the interest of the prospect to hire you more than seeing you in jail? Also, I was wondering if there were some loopholes or field practices one can use to hack for being hired? Something like: "I may have hacked you, do you wanna hire me?" Just curious, because it seems to me every company should welcome that. I might be wrong. ~~~ erichurkman If you want to try that route, there's an ethical way: look for companies with vulnerability disclosure programs on HackerOne or Bugcrowd. Being well-written in your interactions with companies on those platforms would go a long way in improving your credibility. ~~~ martenmickos Sign up here: [https://www.hackerone.com/resources/hack-learn- earn](https://www.hackerone.com/resources/hack-learn-earn) ------ mysterydip My perspective comes from doing hardware and vmware installs at businesses for a Dell partner in the US. The problem is that, as far as many small businesses are concerned, there's only two options: get a full, comprehensive, money- paid-if-we're-wrong-guarantee-backed pentest that's way too expensive, or do nothing. There's a lot of places that would just like some idea how vulnerable they are on the basics. Something the IT admin can show management. If you can come up with a decent suite for a reasonable price with the legalese to say this is for informational purposes and a starting point but not comprehensive, you could carve out a sustainable niche. Edit to say: in person. Shake hands, tour the facility, ret to know how they operate, and test inside and out. Online automated scanners are a dime a dozen and no one would seriously trust them. ~~~ iamacynic of course there's a third option, one that small businesses are opting for en masse: pay for a well-known 3rd party to run a simple remote vulnerability scan, pass the results (full of false positives and just plain wrong information) to someone else to deal with, and pretend like you just accomplished something useful, and reject all recommendations for anything that costs more. ------ dsacco The market is not nearly saturated with firms capable of delivering security assessments (penetration tests + source code reviews) with high technical proficiency. I started a consultancy several years ago which has done very well among smaller tech companies, and I know of at least two new consulting practices started this year by ex-NCC folks. There are many, many firms that bill for web scanning and static analysis. Their business model boils down to, buy a bunch of tools for <$10,000, resell their usage on engagements for >$5,000 per week. They leave a trail of horror stories in their wake eventually. Starting a consulting shop is a great opportunity if you have the requisite skill/experience, and can differentiate yourself from the snake oil salesmen of the industry and the monolithic firms everyone knows. The industry for internal security engineers as well as outside security consultants is growing at a healthy pace. In my circles, people usually need to widely advertise a position to get it filled by someone qualified. In one case, a friend of mine at a tech company informed me that he had only one candidate pass the phone screen in three months despite posting the position here on HN, on /r/netsec, etc. Consulting firms are a different sort of beast because they are usually always hiring. Every security consultant added to a growing firm directly increases the total amount of potential revenue, and most successful firms have to start turning away work at a certain point (for example, I no longer take on work for network security because I find it unenjoyable, I would much rather work on reverse engineering and application security engagements). Everything I've said is US-centric, but hopefully it's reasonably helpful and relevant to you in the UK. I know a few bug bounty-turned-security-consultant people in the UK and they seem to be reasonably well off, but they could be outliers (in fact they are, skill-wise). ~~~ PerfectElement As a small company with limited budget who is looking to have its application tested, how can we differentiate between good firms and firms that will just run a scanner and charge you $5000? Also, is it a good idea to hire a freelancer to pen-test your application? ~~~ dsacco _> As a small company with limited budget who is looking to have its application tested, how can we differentiate between good firms and firms that will just run a scanner and charge you $5000?_ Reputation, mostly. It's easier for the large firms that everyone is familiar with. For smaller firms, you probably want to get a strong referral from someone who has been through this before. Also, ask the consultant(s) performing the assessment what they'll be doing in some technical depth to see how familiar they are with a penetration test/source code review outside of running Acunetix or Burp Suite Scanner. They shouldn't shy away from talking about what specific technical vulnerabilities they feel they're likely to find when you describe your app and its stack off the top of their heads. _> Also, is it a good idea to hire a freelancer to pen-test your application?_ Theoretically, this is a good cost savings versus a firm. But in practice, it's hard to do correctly because you really need to be sure that the person knows what they're doing. If you want to hire a freelancer, I would suggest looking for very well-known/successful bug bounty participants and security researchers who opened their own solo shops. Also, shameless plug: if you're looking for a security assessment I'm happy to help you (and if I can't directly, I am nearly positive I can refer you to very competent smaller firms for your budget). Feel free to get in touch. ------ aidos Interestingly most of the comments in this thread are about the quality of existing organisations in this space. My experience echoes this sentiment. Over the years I've worked on systems that have been pen-tested and it's always been the same thing. The testing picks up a bunch of standard/generic and not all that important issues, while missing much worse and glaring specific issues. I've sat in meetings with people from pentesting companies who couldn't describe the attack vector/risk of an exploit they'd said needed patching. I'm sure there are some companies that do it properly but I guess the good ones charge a load more money. Then again, as a lay-enterprise, how do you know who to hire? I know that if I was hired to pentest various systems I've had to work on in the past I'd have picked holes in them all over the place. ------ Benichmt1 I am a professional penetration tester right now in the US. I got into the field from education, but once I got my OSCP I had multiple offers from different companies. There are a ton of "boutique" firms in the space right now, but there are quite a few who seemed to be popular and then died off right away. One of the big market gaps I see is the ability to provide really good tactical feedback but also package it in a way that it provides value to the actual decision-makers at the top. There are so many pentesting firms that are extremely talented at breaking in, but are really lacking at helping to actually implement cultural and program-level changes so that it doesn't happen again. There are also firms whose idea of a penetration test is just running Metasploit/Nessus/Acunetix and then packing it up without a lot of insight. Compliance is a huge driver right now, meaning some companies just want to check the boxes and be done with it. However, just because you are PCI compliant doesn't mean you are actually secure. It takes a special set of "soft skills" to be able to help companies truly improve their posture. ------ danieltillett The problem appears to be how to sort the bad security assessment firms from the good. There are thousands of firms out there that make grand promises, but how does anyone without the required knowledge to not need such a firm know which ones are good and which one are bad. Rather than add yet another firm, it would be better to work on a startup than can objectively sort those that already exist. Edit. If anyone wants to work on this problem I have a clever way of solving it (I of course don’t have the time to work on it myself). ~~~ askz Can you share more thoughts on this ? ~~~ Benichmt1 Say you need to get a penetration test for PCI compliance. There are literally hundreds of vendors that offer these services. Your CTO would like to use X vendor because he read a paper / saw their name at Defcon / recommended by a partner. When the vendor comes to perform a penetration test, they launch a Nessus scan against the target ranges. They compile the results and manually validate the findings to ensure they are not false positives. The end product is a report that looks something like a checklist: SSLv1 in use, self-signed certificates internally, missing the latest third party software patch on a server. According to the penetration testing firm, you are probably at a low / medium risk level. The tacit implication is that as long as you fix those issues, you should be good to go. The problem is that first, a vulnerability scanner is an imperfect piece of software and does not test anything a real attacker would. A real attacker might try phishing, or guess "Password1" on a user account. Maybe the attacker would attempt a man in the middle attack or set up an evil hotspot. Once you have AD credentials, now you can find which users have local administrator access, which then you can see if there is a shared Administrator password across all workstations. The other problem is that the first penetration test does nothing to address potentially systemic issues for why the security vulnerabilities occurred in the first place. The patches could have been missing because there is no formalized patch management program, or inaccurate change management, or an issue with their Puppet config. Currently there's no way to separate the "good" (read: thorough) from the bad other than direct referral or looking at a sample report. ------ danpalmer My notes from working at a pentesting consultancy during an internship (in the UK): \- There are plenty of SaaS offerings, but they aren't VC-backed with flashy websites, they are much more corporate. \- Lots of the SaaS offerings are just an automated Nessus or equivalent, and only really look at servers/operating systems, not actual web apps. \- The consultancy side is pretty saturated, but most of them are crap, new- grads, pentesting Java/PHP apps. \- There is a strong market for the trickier stuff – hardware pentesting, pentesting more interesting environments/languages, etc. \- Pentesting is ridiculously expensive, to the point that the startup I work for would never consider it at our size – making that more affordable is a hard problem, but would be very valuable to lots of companies. ~~~ whatusername Veracode was VC backed and had a $600million exit this year. ~~~ lawnchair_larry They were not just a pentesting shop though. ------ spydum There are thousands of firms who will happily run a vuln scan or webapp crawler and send you a crappy canned report. There are less who can really perform a comprehensive test and document the hell out of it. I personally think pen testing is not very useful, except as a 3rd party check to tell you if you've done a reasonable job at protecting your software (and if you get a bad tester, you literally won't know!). We need more people in InfoSec who can explain how to build defensible software - finding holes is the easy part. ~~~ philjr These things are not really mutually exclusive. Defense in depth. Getting more information on building defensible software does not preclude the need to have someone knowledgeable try to rip it apart afterwards. ~~~ spydum I don't disagree on this, but the mentality of pentesting (as I have seen it conducted) is wrong. Typically a firm wants to find a way in, and snatch the Crown Jewels. Once they achieve that, the level of effort goes way down, and they often leave a lot of surface area unchecked. Or maybe more succinctly: they are incentivized to find SOMETHING quickly, rather than EVERYTHING. I think it can help if the testers are internal and not quite under the same time pressure / engagement limits though. ------ ryanackley Consumer of pen testing services here. I feel like it's saturated with sales- driven companies. Basically, "call us so we can figure out how much to charge you". If there was a pen testing company with no annoying sales people and transparent pricing I think it could do well. ------ iuguy I've been in the UK pentesting market since the closing of the dotcom days, and run a small boutique pentesting outfit. In all honesty, this is not an industry you want to build a company around. There's a lot of smaller players that are getting by on a small client base and subbing. There's a massive amount of box-ticking compliance companies out there that offer differing shades of the same awful service. There are a smaller number of larger companies that offer box ticking and bespoke stuff, then right at the top of the market you have NCC Group. The market itself is dominated by compliance work. I spent several years trying to scale the company I run up by working towards getting more badges, then doing more compliance work, and repeating. In the process I ended up realising that we were turning into one of those mid-tier box-tickers, and that's not where I'd want to be, any more than if I was a mid-sized accountancy. Unless you enjoy mediocre work, it's not a good look. If you're an experienced tester with a bunch of friendly customers, I suspect you could set up something small and go contracting, but you're unlikely to grow too quickly without going through that box-ticking phase. The main box ticks to get are (in no particular order): * CHECK * CREST * PCI * Cyber Essentials Plus Check licenses you to do certain types of government work. Most of the market is sewn up by outsourcers and big boys thanks to government cuts and it puts massive constraints on employment. CREST is an odd-fish. It's built mostly by mid-large size CHECK companies fed up with the way that scheme was going when it was run by CESG (now NCSC). There's a few things they've build to seal off parts of the market (like CBEST and STAR) from non-CREST players. Competing schemes like Tiger and Cyber schemes offer equivalence for CHECK-type roles but lack some of the market advantages CREST offers. It's best to think of CREST as a one-stop shop for Meta-box-ticking in some respects. To be fair, they've done a good job in some areas, come across as a little bit cartel-like in others but on the whole have done what other standards bodies have failed to achieve, which is to have a cross-discipline certification curriculum that's respected at a technical level. PCI is for payment data and is absolutely saturated with low-end box-tickers flogging rebadged Qualys scans. The Local Authority market (good god, the horror) is the closest thing to this in terms of sheer volume of WTFs per minute you'll encounter. Cyber Security Essentials is a scheme that nobody wanted, that CREST picked up with IASME and is now being rolled out by force via backdoor programmes like DCPP. OSCP is gaining, but not really popular here because of the abundance of other schemes. Prices are all over the place, but depend on market segment and the box being ticked but have generally been relatively stagnant or lowering since around 2004. When I went full time pentesting, average rates were around £1250-£2000 per day. These days expect between £700-£1250 depending on the market in which you're operating. So, in a market that sells things people don't want to buy at prices they don't want to pay to tick boxes nobody enjoys ticking, is it worth going into? There are a lot of companies looking to consolidate testing firms into their portfolios. Blackberry bought Encription a while back for a fair old wedge. Digital Assurance were recently acquired by F-Secure. NCC appear to have stopped acquiring companies at the rate they were previously, possibly connected to decreasing profits. You _could_ spin up a company and if well connected grow it to about 500k-1million in revenue, possibly sell for 750k-2 million and work for about 5 years extending a services portfolio at a Cybersecurity distributor or reseller before cashing out. Realistically, the money in the compliance end of the market is in services that support the compliance management side, while the money in the technical end of the market is going to be in making tools that do something new for people who consume testing services as well as the testers themselves. A good example of the former is probably Canopy[1] or Dradis[2], reporting toolsets that integrate various scanners. The best example of the latter is Burp suite[3], which is a web app testing tool used by both testers and developers. A lesser example would be Nipper (for network infrastructure config review) or Matasano playbook (sadly now gone). So, in conclusion: 1\. The market is highly divisible based on compliance targets, with associated badge-based barriers to entry, low margins and high salary costs. 2\. There are a huge amount of companies (e.g. scanner firms) in some areas of the market. There are few in certain niches but they tend to have barriers to entry. 3\. It is still possible to build a small firm that is a cheap acquisition target for a larger firm and make out and there is scope for consolidation. 4\. You are more likely to have longer term growth looking at the market and seeing how to provide to it rather than providing the service yourself. [1] - [https://www.checksec.com/canopy.html](https://www.checksec.com/canopy.html) [2] - [https://dradisframework.com/ce/](https://dradisframework.com/ce/) [3] - [https://portswigger.net/](https://portswigger.net/) ~~~ petecooper Not OP, but this was really insightful and useful. Thank you. ------ ccddss You could also ask: Is the market saturated with electronic calculators or guitars. It's depend on what you do with such a tool and if you are able to decide between the several variations. And sure there experts and there are experts. Some are better to impress other are better in doing.If you make a good and honestly job you will not fail. Mostly. ~~~ snissn I love your answer. I always use restaurants as my example! If you want to open a restaurant, do it! Don't let the fact that there are already a lot of restaurants stop you! (Or don't open one!) ------ 1ba9115454 If you look at it in terms of open positions then the market appears to be growing. I imagine finding experienced people would be difficult for employers. The learning curve is relatively small for an experienced developer to pick up something like metasploit. Finding someone who can creatively come up with zero days etc probably very difficult. ~~~ hd4 This is exactly my position on it right now, thinking about a pivot into security from application programming as it seems to be dawning on industry that it's no longer a nice-to-have. ~~~ 1ba9115454 I would recommend some Metasploit tutorials on YouTube. There's already a metasploit module for some of the NSA stuff that got released. Topical. ------ avaer I think it greatly depends on the kind of pentesting. A military network is different from a bank, or an AWS site, or a social network. It's a guess, but I would suspect the market is saturated -- by opportunists, not talent -- leading to necessarily high-touch sales and high barrier to entry, but not oversupply. ~~~ hd4 What sorts of barriers to entry? Purely the fact that there is a lot of noise vs. signal in terms of low-grade operators? Or is it more to do with learning the requisite skills? ~~~ PeterisP Selling the service to end customers has a high barrier of entry, in part due to chicken-and-egg problem of reputation and connections. Doing work for/with someone who is doing the sales part well doesn't have a big barrier of entry IMHO. ------ tptacek For consulting work? Not at all saturated. ------ mighty_warrior There are plenty of companies who perform pen testing and security. Their biggest deficiency right now is understanding new emerging cloud technologies. We have been working with some pretty big name security companies around the globe and very few of them understand AWS or Azure adequately. ------ rdslw Hey hd4. Can you leave your contact details here or on your profile? Or contact me (keybase in my profile). ~~~ hd4 Sure, I'll have to wait till I get home to use keybase, this is a work computer. ------ safetyscissors I'm in the same position thinking of making a pivot into the security sector (coming from a mobile developer background). I think if you're good and always on top of infosec stuff and contribute to the community, you'll always have work. ------ ig1 The market for infosec in the UK and internationally is pretty healthy, if that's where you want to build your career I wouldn't worry about the size of the market, but finding yourself a good consultancy firm to start your career at. ------ darksim905 Oversaturated as hell. Everyone & their mother that thinks just because they can code or use a computer, they can use metasploit or (insert tool here). There's more to it than that. ------ jjguy I spent twelve years as a "security guy" before becoming employee #1 at a now- wildly-successful security startup five years ago. I've spent a lot of time in the last year "professionalizing" our security program, now that we've grown large enough to need repeatable security procedures. I am intimately familiar with the domain. Three things to segment the space: \- Clients are typically driven by compliance or practical security value. Understanding who you cater to and qualifying your customers will save a lot of pain. \- Many/most "pentesting" firms are focused on the corporate enterprise and IT people, not SaaS and dev people. Recognizing the difference in yourself and your customer needs will save a lot of pain. \- Many/most of the traditional IT enterprise security best practices & tools do not apply to a well-managed SaaS platform. e.g., I do not need a traditional vuln scanner to check for unnecessary and vulnerable services when I have one domain that's terminated at an AWS ELB. Some industry color: \- The 2013 Target compromise root cause was not Target themselves, but their HVAC contractor who maintained trusted access. As a result, third party vendor risk assessment is becoming "standard practice" during the procurement process of any technology vendor, including SaaS applications. \- The vendor risk assessment teams expect all vendors to have mature security programs - SSAE-16 SOC2 audits, full Secure Development Lifecycle practices and customer-facing documentation to describe it all in detail. \- The result is a growing demand amongst smallish SaaS vendors for more professional security guidance. With that context, some commentary on your original question: \- There are very few firms that provide good "practical security value." I cannot find enough good pen-testing firms that are a reasonable proxy for a capable attacker. \- The market for firms providing "compliance" services to "corporate enterprise IT" shops is noisy and full. The market for providing similar services to smallish SaaS vendors/developers is very sparse. \- The security tooling for dev is pretty good - static & dynamic source code analysis, tied into the build pipeline, etc. The security tooling for devops is not. There is a large gap in security tooling for devops/SaaS vendors - distinguished by automation and focus. Finally, commentary on the question you're really asking: \- If you are world-class good, or can build a world-class team, you can build an outstanding company providing practical security value pentest services. Scale will be limited by the number of world-class staff you can hire/train. \- There is a gap in providing higher-level services to smallish startups to help them navigate third party risk assessment procedures from their customers. HN's tptacek and elptacek recently launched a new consultancy with this focus. They _nailed_ the product/market fit. [a, b] Again, scale will be limited by the number of staff you can hire/train, but it is an easier team to grow than world-class attackers. \- There is a gap in security toolchains for devops/SaaS providers. Review the public projects from Netflix, Facebook and the other SaaS heavies for specific gaps _they_ had to fill. Every one is a product waiting to happen. Cheers, and good luck. a - [https://latacora.com/](https://latacora.com/) b - [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12567578](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12567578) ------ kapauldo No one has bottled this yet and made it cheap. If you could do a saas of automated kali and ssllabs scans, for example, I think there is a huge market. If you want to start a consultancy, the market is saturated. ~~~ darksim905 services like penteston.com will make bank doing this. It should be free, but I'm very biased. It's geared toward smallest pentesting consultants or people who don't know what they are doing. Seems to do a lot of the heavy lifting. Saying nobody has 'bottled' it is silly. People here in YC have done half the work, or will figure out how to do half of it for you as a pentester. The rest is validating those results, which is where a bulk of pentesting comes in.
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Artificial Intelligence, Poker, and Regret - matco11 https://medium.com/@RemiStudios/artificial-intelligence-poker-and-regret-part-1-36c78d955720 ====== Moncefmd Well written and very interesting. There is a small typo in your article (there is both positive regret and positive regret). ~~~ jbg_ There are many typos, in fact. I personally find it really distracting and wish authors of articles with interesting content would get someone to proofread before publishing them. ~~~ jaymzcampbell I'm grateful authors take the immense time required to write something like this and then publish it free for all to read. I personally could care less if there are typos. ~~~ jsweojtj *couldn't care less ~~~ jaymzcampbell Not to start an argument but relevant [https://xkcd.com/1576/](https://xkcd.com/1576/) ~~~ Fuzzwah Is like to see an xkcd where one character ponders of another character is doing something just to get a certain reaction that they have just the right online comic to counter with. ------ everdev Despite the title, it's a tutorial on how to build an AI for Rock, Paper, Scissors. ~~~ user5994461 Isn't this game solved by game theory? ~~~ VHRanger Yes, you can solve it "by hand" in a few lines of algebra. You can't solve Texas Hold'em by hand, though, because there are too many parameters. The same technique they used there for RPS can be used on poker to create strong strategies ~~~ user5994461 Sadly, the blog is only about rock paper scissor. I too wish it were about Poker, as the title suggests. ------ whack > _" Unlike many recent important breakthroughs in A.I Research, like > Deepmind’s AlphaGo, CFR does not rely on Neural Networks to calculate > probabilities or the value of a particular move. Instead by playing itself > over millions if not billions of games, it can begin to sum up the total > amount of regret for each action it has taken in particular positions."_ If the goal is to build a general-purpose AI, this approach seems like a dead- end. The distinguishing feature of a general-purpose AI is knowing what to do when it encounters novel situations. In contrast, the CFR algorithm above sounds more like a training program where the "AI" teaches itself using empirical results, what to do for every single scenario. Such an empirical approach may work well for scenarios that have been frequently encountered in the past, but when dealing with novel scenarios, it seems to me that a deductive approach is what's truly needed. ~~~ vikiomega9 True, but search algorithms are the foundation for most game playing AIs. What I would take out of this is that there is a missing component that would bridge specialized AI to general purpose AI that mimics humans. For example a trained professional player is aware of the history of plays prevalent to a game and I doubt most professionals can/eventually invent new plays, and this affords by-passing the brute force millions of games needed to train an AI. ------ splonk For those who want to read more about CFR, I'd start with some of Michael Johanson's papers. I think his thesis was specifically on CFR and poker, but a reasonable amount of searching on the UAlberta site will probably find you the right papers. You can also look at his Quora answer here for a (much more readable, IMO) overview: [https://www.quora.com/What-is-an-intuitive-explanation-of- co...](https://www.quora.com/What-is-an-intuitive-explanation-of- counterfactual-regret-minimization?share=1) In the same vein, you might want to look up "fictitious play" as a related topic for finding Nash equilibria in two player games by iterating through best-response strategies. ------ nodesocket Does it manage betting as well? Betting obviously is a large part of poker and requires analyzing other players bets. ~~~ VHRanger Generally you "abstract" betting to a few sizes (2-4 usually), and create a mapping back to real sizes when using the bot you created. ~~~ xapata In no-limit poker the abstraction is a few fixed multiples of the blinds if you're leading out from a reasonably sized stack (1x big blind through maybe 6x big blind) or a few fractions of the pot if you're raising or betting in a later round (1/5, 1/4, 1/3, 1/2, 2/3, 3/4 or 1x the pot, or all-in). ~~~ imh That's really interesting and something I never knew. Is that just something to simplify writing a decent bot, or is that something human players think in terms of? ~~~ xapata Humans need to simplify the game more than bots do, really. Bots can calculate exact odds ratios. Humans do rough estimates, because that's faster. Also, you don't need exact odds as it's common to bet such that your opponent doesn't have the correct odds to call.
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I Build Supercomputers in My Spare Time - stevesalevan http://www.parallella.org/2014/06/03/my-name-is-brian-and-i-build-supercomputers-in-my-spare-time/ ====== onalark This is a misleading title. Brian builds Supercomputer Models, not Supercomputers. It would be like if I had a model of a Ferrari I put together at home and wrote an article about how I built sports cars in my spare time. Yes, these are awesome, full-featured models, but the differences between this and a supercomputer, which costs tens of millions of dollars, requires high- density power and cooling, features multi-dimensional, low-diameter networks, and contains hundreds of thousands to millions of compute cores is... _quite_ vast. ~~~ vidarh I get what you are saying, but what is a supercomputer today is a pedestrian little home computer tomorrow. The cylinder design he's using is inspired by the early Cray models. Cray 1 had a performance of 80 MFLOPS. Cray X-MP had a performance of 800 MFLOPS. The Cray 2 (which looked substantially different) reached 1.9 GFLOPS in 1985. 1993-1996, Numerical Wind Tunnel - a 140 CPU vector computer, was at the top most of the time. It reached it's all time peak at around 235.8 GFLOP/s Even ASCII Red, which held the top spot until the end of the 20th century, only reached 1.3 TFLOPS. So unlike if you built a model of a Ferrari at home, this thing actually substantially outperforms the fastest supercomputers up until the mid 90's. ~~~ onalark This is a little bit of a straw man. As Jack Dongarra will happily tell you, an iPad can outperform some of the supercomputers from the beginning of the Top500 benchmark. You don't get to be a supercomputer today by beating supercomputers from two decades ago, that's not how technology works. I'm taking umbrage at the linkbait title because I'm a grumpy old man, not because I don't think this project isn't cool (and admirable!) ~~~ vidarh My point is that the "super computer" term in itself is quite meaningless. It's pretty much just saying "we thought this thing was fast when it came out". And while this thing doesn't really meet _that_ label at its present scale, it is conceptually far closer to those early supercomputers than what an iPad is, both in how it's structured, the parallel nature of it (16 ARM cores; 128 Epiphany cores), the shared memory (within each Parallella) etc.. So yes, you're being grumpy about a title where it takes about 10 seconds to figure out that this isn't _actually_ about someone building stuff aiming for the Top500. ~~~ onalark An iPad _does_ resemble the supercomputers of yore, between its superscalar, vector processing (GPU), and multicore architecture. The Parallella brings distributed-memory programming in, which is a very important development. You and I strongly disagree on the meaningfulness or definition of the term supercomputer. Here's an easy definition: A supercomputer is any single, unified, computer system that is currently one of the fastest 500 in the world. ~~~ jacquesm Another grumpy old man here. I disagree with your classification. By your analogy, you'd be building a _classical Ferrari_ capable of the speeds of that classical Ferrari, not a model. The fact that it can't measure up to _today 's_ super computers does not mean that it isn't constructed along some of the same lines and shares a lot of traits with it. Back when Beowulf clusters first came into vogue all the 'real' supercomputer people were saying 'but that isn't a real supercomputer, you're using multiple CPU's' and we all know how that discussion ended. Give the man a break, wait a couple of years and he'll give you a 4K core cpu _supercomputer_ for little money, that needs to be encouraged, not talked down. It's early days. ------ supermatt Having read through the documents, I see that it is capable of ~200 GFLOPS. Obviously, this outshines my macbook performance of ~50GFLOPS, but it is substantially less than my workstations GPU, an Nvidia GTX 770, capable of ~3000 GFLOPS. I suppose my question is why would I choose to build something like this over using a GPU? ~~~ bri3d Here's some previous discussion: [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4702456](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4702456) In terms of raw GFLOPS, you shouldn't. Parallela offers something halfway between a multi-CPU cluster, differing in terms of memory access, and a GPU, differing in that each core is a real core and can be independently making calls, branching, etc. Another point to note is that every GPU architecture is different and that some support a different degree of control flow parallelism vs. data parallelism. Ultimately it depends on the kernel you're working with - if you're to a point where you've got strictly linear SIMD and you depend entirely on floating- point math throughput or memory bandwidth, it wouldn't make sense not to use a GPU instead. ~~~ moconnor Although if you like or have code suitable for a multicore architecture you would get better performance from a Xeon Phi or the forthcoming Knight's Landing from Intel, both of which run x86_64 Linux. Between ARM, OpenPower and Intel's Phi successors this is becoming a hyper- competitive space. Interesting times ahead! ------ coreymgilmore For anyone running into the DB connection error and the page not loading: [http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://...](http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.parallella.org/2014/06/03/my- name-is-brian-and-i-build-supercomputers-in-my-spare-time/) ------ contingencies Isn't the architecture of real world supercomputers essentially dependent on their expected load? The very notion of a 'general purpose processing supercomputer' essentially conjures one of those modern data center visions: a large array of identical consumer-grade hardware, with its high price/performance ratio: accessioned, wired, tested, commissioned, allocated workloads, managed over time and finally decomissioned by a combination of carefully developed human procedures and highly automated processes? For instance, nobody in their right mind would install an OS on every such node by hand: it has to be PXE or similar (can you boot root-on-iSCSI direct from BIOS these days?). I'm curious how many fellow HN'ers out there are doing this. ------ hunt I can see one fan at the top of the cylinder- is only one fan really sufficient? It looks like this would generate a large amount of heat. I would be quite interested to see the temperatures this gets up to. ~~~ vidarh A single 16 core Parallella can run with just passive cooling. It takes next to no cooling to bring both the ARM and Epiphany chips down to near room temperature. ~~~ BaryonBundle While the 16 Parallella can run with just passive cooling, you still need to ensure proper airflow over the unit. Units have been known to overheat with just passive cooling, and they even advise that you install a fan with the official case (that they sell on their store/provided to backers), even though there is nowhere to screw a fan in, etc. Cases and Cooling: [http://www.parallella.org/2014/04/30/cases-and- cooling/](http://www.parallella.org/2014/04/30/cases-and-cooling/) (parallella.org) _April 30, 2014_ The point that a cluster of parallellas is _relatively_ easy to cool is definitely aided by the form factor. ------ tomberek [http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:nBNJrRz...](http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:nBNJrRzmjUMJ:www.parallella.org/2014/06/03/my- name-is-brian-and-i-build-supercomputers-in-my-spare- time/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us) ------ lemcoe9 Your LEDs use 20W of power? I would immediately scrap those - they serve no real purpose and use an insane amount of power, compared to their computing counterparts. ------ deutronium Wouldn't it be quite hard to benchmark something like Parallela as it contains an FPGA/ARM/Their own multi-core chip. ~~~ rjsw Not really, you have to make it explicit where any program would run. ------ manuw "Error establishing a database connection" *scnr
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CryptoPHP: Analysis of a hidden threat inside popular content management systems - arb99 http://blog.fox-it.com/2014/11/18/cryptophp-analysis-of-a-hidden-threat-inside-popular-content-management-systems/ ====== ecaron Can someone tag the title [2014]?
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Why Apple doesn’t care about professional Mac users anymore (2016) - smacktoward https://jasonlefkowitz.net/2016/10/why-apple-doesnt-care-about-professional-mac-users-anymore/ ====== arthurofbabylon A lot of people who complain about hyperbole in the press seem to enjoy hyperbole applied to their favorite and least favorite tech brands. Really? You really think Apple “doesn’t care about professional Mac users”? Not only does this exaggeration/absurdity denigrate the author, it also makes it really, really hard for reasonably-minded people to pay attention to possibly valid arguments. The best authors tend to be candid and precise. ~~~ monksy What happened to their server line? ~~~ techjuice They discontinued the xserve in 2011, was nice buying the last three of them directly from Apple. ~~~ monksy I was using that to point out that they have abandoned their audience before. This would not be that surprising. ------ 013a Apple really only has two major issues with the MBP right now: thermals and the update cycle. Its absolutely unacceptable that we have to wait a full year after Intel's mobile chip releases before we see them trickle to the MBP. I understand that Apple operates on a scale other manufacturers don't match, but we saw 8750H laptops release to the public months before WWDC, but Apple will sit on their 7th gen laptops for another 6-8 months before releasing. Because "release cycles". But even when they do come out: Apple doesn't understand professional grade thermal management. They put fans (or, fan) (or, no fans) in the machine that can spin up pretty high, but you'll never see the machine do it on its own. Instead, they prefer to thermal throttle the CPUs under any sustained workload, while the fans just spin at a whisper quiet whrr and the underside heats up to an uncomfortably hot level (because the machine itself is a heatsink, which conversely makes your lap part of the heatsink, thanks Apple [1]) I don't believe them for a second when they say that they still care about the Mac, as an organization and at their leadership levels. Its immensely frustrating. But the biggest frustration is that they (and Microsoft) are the only companies still making laptops with screens other than 16:9, which is a major component to professional sales. So even if you can get over not having MacOS (which is pretty darn easy to leave with how lackluster the latest releases have been), you're still left with a subpar hardware experience. [1] [http://time.com/4938530/can-laptops-cause- infertility/](http://time.com/4938530/can-laptops-cause-infertility/) ------ jiggliemon Who are professional Mac users? These are the ones I’m thinking of off the top of my head. \- Developers \- Adobe Suite users \- Video Editors \- C-Suite Professionals I think they abandoned video editors when they dropped Final Cut. So they didn’t care about those professionals. Adobe Suite users is a large group of professionals. Photographers for one; Apple ditched the SD card port - seems like they don’t care about photographers. Illustrators; Wacom/tables all use standard USB style ports; and several other ports at the same time; like external hard drives or now, external video cards I guess. Less ports seems to mean they don’t care about people who use additional hardware. Musicians, Video editors, I’m sure I’m missing a few other “pros” who require external hardware. The iPad Pro has that pencil thing; and maybe the adobe software for the iPad is good enough to do professional illustration and photo editing. Although i don’t know any photographer editing 1Gb files on an iPad Pro. They’re hard enough to edit on a MacBook Pro. Who does the touch bar serve? Maybe it’s just because I’m in that demographic who doesn’t understand Snapchat - but I just don’t nderstand the touch bar. It doesn’t feel “pro” to me. You can’t charge the Apple mouse while you use it. Somebody needs to explain that logic to me. So all the Mac pros are really good at - is jobs for professional typists. Programmers, writers, emailers; but the new keyboards seem to be pretty poor at their core function. Typing. It’s clear in my opinion that Apple doesn’t care about today’s professionals. Maybe they care about tomorrow’s. I guess I have to ask what problems is Apple helping to solve for tomorrow’s professionals - today? Wire problems? Edit: added the iPad Pro, and Apple mouse ------ dwc The rise of the iPhone explains a LOT about where Apple puts their attention. What it doesn't really explain is why the changes they do make to Mac products seem designed to annoy. Since they're not upgrading the processors couldn't they just leave things completely alone and keep selling the old models? I'm not sure they'd take any more heat for that than they do for dropping connectors and such. ~~~ JumpCrisscross > _leave things completely alone and keep selling the old models_ That would trash the brand. You can't be selling cutting edge out of one side of the company while milking legacy products out the other. Perhaps more fatally, it spoils Apple's incredibly effective "make your product obsolete before someone else does" philosophy. ~~~ geerlingguy > You can't be selling cutting edge out of one side of the company while > milking legacy products out the other. Except that's exactly what's happening with the MacBook Air, Mac mini, Mac Pro... ~~~ andrewmcwatters Additionally, iPhone has been their core focus for a long time now, and yet prior to the X, they basically shipped the same phone for the last 4 years. What have they been doing at Apple for the last half decade or more besides building a GCHQ replica? ~~~ sdhgaiojfsa Making money hand over fist, for one thing. It is _smart_ to change slowly if you've achieved market saturation and your customer base has no viable alternatives. It means more profits. ------ filesystem Especially given the recent launch of the iMac Pro, I don't think we can say this definitively until we see the next release of the Macbook Pro. ~~~ threeseed Except we largely know what the next MacBook Pro will be. Same design. Same TouchBar. Same display. Same keyboard but with covers on the key to prevent dust (refer to recent patent). Upgrade to 6-core for 15inch, 4-core for 13-inch. Possibly 32GB maximum on 15inch. Tim Cook has himself said it takes years for Apple to switch directions in their product line. And so since the current MacBook Pro is only a couple of years old it isn't likely we will see a dramatically different product. ------ mullingitover I think Apple's concern for Mac users is roughly proportional to Macs' share of Apple's revenue breakdown. Currently this is in the single digits[1]. [1] [https://www.statista.com/statistics/382260/segments-share- re...](https://www.statista.com/statistics/382260/segments-share-revenue-of- apple/) ------ Animats And just as phone sales went flat.[1] The computer business may become more important as phones become a commodity. [1] [https://www.statista.com/statistics/263401/global-apple- ipho...](https://www.statista.com/statistics/263401/global-apple-iphone-sales- since-3rd-quarter-2007/) ------ tcfunk I think Apple makes some top-notch computers, but I also think I am no longer the target audience for those computers. ------ jacinabox I realized something like this a while ago; that Apple is catering to casual users and neglecting its upscale offerings, not pushing its desktop software business forward. The problem in the long run is that the loyalty of smartphone users is fickle; there's no vendor lockin. Suppose someday people decide that X smartphone maker is the next big thing; what's tethering them to Apple products? ~~~ threeseed > there's no vendor lockin Really ? 200+ billion apps sold, which on average are more expensive than Android. iMessage/Facetime which are iOS only and are likely top 3 messaging platforms. Apple Watch which is the leading wearable and is iOS only. HomePod and AirPods which are iOS only. Apps like Notes, Photos etc which are iOS/OSX only. If you spend ANY time using the functionality of iOS you are slowly but surely cementing your feet in the ground. ------ bayfullofrays This is absolute crap. Apple cares about their pro users, they just want them using products that are much more accessible and easier to use. We just transitioned to iPad Pros in our recruiting office and some of our developers are recommending that we just push everything into Google Cloud and using the iPad to do development on. This argument is like saying that Tesla doesn't care about petrolhead and horse carriage enthusiasts. The only people that I know who care about Mac hardware are the same people who waste powerful machines on web browsing and like to boast about how fast their computer is. Just toxic. ~~~ pokemongoaway Right, it was so hard to use magsafe, keyboards with key-travel, non-touch screen laptops, and all of those annoyingly varied ports on the side! I think OSX and iOS should become the same thing so no one has to manage their own software - let's get everything from their appstore, it's wonderful! I'm also really glad they incentivize smaller hard drive space so more people decide to use their cloud offerings; cloud is the future! Also, anyone who liked the old non-reflective displays just doesn't understand graphics; a company shouldn't listen to all customers, just the correct customers. USB is a great example of where most customers are wrong.
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Work on Stuff that Matters: First Principles - agrinshtein http://radar.oreilly.com/2009/01/work-on-stuff-that-matters-fir.html ====== russell The article is a revisionist feel-good view of history. He talks about Microsoft's vision of "a computer on every desk", but the reality was that Gates always wanted to make money from the the Traf-o-matic days. I am sure that in the early days O'reilly himself was just as interested in making a buck as he was in publishing Unix books. Most entrepreneurs have a non-monetary vision of something great that they want to build, but they usually have to keep financial viability right up there in the priorities, otherwise they don't get to play very long. ~~~ gruseom But the two are not mutually exclusive, and many people need more than just money motivating them in order to stay in for the long haul. ~~~ russell I agree. I think most entrepreneurs are motivated more by their vision than by immediate rewards. My point is that, if you want a successful company, you need to keep the financial side in focus too. Gates, Jobs, and Ellison had the business focus from the beginning. OTOH if the monetary side is of little or no consequence, the Open Source community is the way to go. Make what you believe in and share it. And the web allows a sideline to lead to riches depending on how the wind blows. ------ stcredzero The publishers of "Deck" recording software on old MacOS Powermacs used to say "Consume the minimum, produce the maximum." I think that's good advice for anyone. It's good advice for any nation in times like this. ------ Goladus I love that gas station analogy, but I have to say it is a bit hard to swallow. One might spend 5 minutes at a gas station for every 5 hours on the road. If I could work 3 weeks a year and make enough to pay for rent and food for the other 49 I wouldn't care too much about money either. ------ boris Based on the quality of books O'Reilly publishes, it's hard to view him as worthy of giving this advice. ~~~ rw Many would say O'Reilly books are good or great. How did you come to your opinion? ~~~ boris I own a few. I also own some from Addison Wesley, Prentice Hall, Morgan Kaufmann, etc. For example, "XML Schema" by van der Vlist is just incomprehensible (I don't understand how it got passed the editor). Plus the author is by no means an expert in XML Schema. That's actually the gist of the problem with O'Reilly books: they are written by non-experts and the editorial work is poor. ~~~ rw Your sample size sounds small, given the collection of books O'Reilly has. Regardless, even idiots can say wise things (perhaps accidentally). So, your initial complaint amounts to an ad hominem attack. Do you have a problem with the post, itself? ~~~ boris You mean, it is ok for a publisher to release poor quality books now and again as long as the average stays good enough? I feel that people with this kind of approach are not worthy of giving this kind of advice. So I didn't read the post itself. ~~~ mechanical_fish _You mean, it is ok for a publisher to release poor quality books now and again as long as the average stays good enough?_ Yes. I doubt there is another way. Do you know how tech book publishing works? It's not fiction publishing -- publishers aren't deluged with a large pool of manuscripts from which they can pick out the best ones. The financial incentives are very poor: Unless they target a very broad audience ( _see_ : David Pogue) tech book authors don't make enough royalty money to reimburse them for their time. So publishers must approach potential authors in advance, woo them, and sign them to book- publishing contracts before the books are written. Since they can't offer enough money, the publishers must approach people who have other incentives -- e.g. existing experts or inventors who want to promote themselves or their tools. Unfortunately, the skills required to become an expert in something like XML are not necessarily correlated with the skills required to write a good book about it. And, of course, it can be hard to identify an expert in advance. And it's often better to hire a lesser writer, or a lesser expert, than to have _no_ book on a particular topic in your product line. Once a book is delivered ( _if_ the book is delivered -- a lot of authors burn out in the process), the publisher can work with the author to edit it, but the option of rejecting the manuscript is probably difficult and expensive and politically nasty. So, once written, I suspect that a tech book tends to be published. Might as well let the reviewers and the public do the dirty work of deciding that it's bad. Particularly since there are many subspecialties where a badly-written book is far better than no book at all.
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UK Announces the “Google Tax” - Robadob http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/12/03/latest-in-europe-vs-tech-co-battles-u-k-introduces-the-google-tax/ ====== nextw33k Of course a 25% tax on profit leaves them in exactly the same position. The tax scheme is to have no profit by pay it as IP rights to another company in a low tax country. It sounds like they are doing something but in fact they are not. They just need a sales tax 25% for multinationals. That would be a level playing field.
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Three Reasons To Use Disqus - dshah http://avc.blogs.com/a_vc/2008/05/three-reasons-t.html ====== mosburger OK, this might be a really stupid question. If so, I apologize, but... What happens if Disqus goes out of business? Do all of your comments evaporate? Or are the comments stored locally somehow? ~~~ bootload _"... What happens if Disqus goes out of business? Do all of your comments evaporate? ..."_ A quick look at the website would reveal, _"No"_ ~ <http://disqus.com/help/#faq-6> I use Disqus because it gives me "the freedom to leave" at anytime Understand that data _"Lock-in"_ is the new _"Lock-out"_. If Disqus does collapse, I still have my data because I have access to it now. To understand why this is important read about _"The zen of free"_ ~ [http://asay.blogspot.com/2006/06/simon-phipps-on-zen-of- free...](http://asay.blogspot.com/2006/06/simon-phipps-on-zen-of-free- osbc.html) by Simon Phipps. ------ fortes What about the loss of page rank and search due to content not being hosted on your server? Could disqus perhaps allow you to use a custom subdomain (such as disqus.yourblog.com)? ~~~ quellhorst Disqus comments are included via javascript, so you don't have outbound links that diminish pagerank. Comments won't be indexed by Google but your article text and links to the article from other blogs will have a bigger impact on where you appear in SERPs. ------ jwr One bit of information is missing: what's the price? ~~~ aneesh Disqus is free for bloggers ~~~ kyro I don't think he's talking about a monetary price, rather sacrifices that bloggers might be making to use their service, as others have pointed out here - page rank, etc. ~~~ jwr Actually, I was talking about both. It's all good and great that they'll host my comments, but how do they make their money? I need to know this in order to migrate. ~~~ DougBTX Hmm, no obvious way to make money, do we assume they last until they run out of VC money? ~~~ ivankirigin An obvious way to make money: Persistent reputation is extremely valuable. Extended and deep information about a user from their writings and the sites they visit is extremely valuable. Think about the targeted advertising down the long tail, where eCPM will be huge. ~~~ DougBTX I'd hope their plan is more than to reach some critical mass then start inserting ads into people's blogs. Will it be "put our ads on your blog, and we'll split the profits" or "pay for Disqus or we'll put ads on your site"? I guess we'll wait and see, perhaps they'll manage to productise it, if they've not reached the maximum price point yet. ~~~ ivankirigin There are many ways for them to make money. My point was to counter your comment that there were no obvious ways. ------ gexla I am not convinced. I do see the advantages but I would rather have the text on my blog. The comment text gives your blog a little more life in the eyes of Google and adds just a little more content. If I don't want to mess with creating a comment system then why did I build my own blog in the first place? I think a good compromise to make things easier for the commenter is to use Clickpass for easy login. I don't mind that my blog is being commented other places (like we are doing here for this entry) but if a commenter is at my site then that is where I want my text to live. ~~~ ssharp It's a two way street - a long discussion on a topic with a specific keyword can hurt your ranking for that keyword if the discussions aren't using the phrase you're targeting. I love the quick and easy functionality that Disqus has and am using it on a few of my blogs. I'd like to set it up for my companies web properties but am reluctant because we already have our own login and user systems. ------ gaika And the biggest reason not to: javascript is required. It causes really bad problems in IE: [http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/04/23/what-happened- to...](http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/04/23/what-happened-to-operation- aborted.aspx) ~~~ ssharp I'd have to think that they are working on an API solution that will have MT and WordPress plugins that use it...The JS problem is just too big not to be addressed. ------ Xichekolas He forgot the most important reason (to me): You can stick a fully functional comment system on anything without doing it yourself. Why reinvent the wheel and deal with managing your own when you can just tack on an excellent system by someone else? ~~~ gexla How far do you want to take this though? Why not just use Blogger or Wordpress.com? Why custom code your own blog? BTW, I assume you are talking about a custom coded blog (or whatever is being commented) because systems like Wordpress or ExpressionEngine make adding commenting trivially easy. ~~~ Xichekolas I have coded my own blog in the past, and yeah, after a while it's boring and so I just use Blogger now. But you can stick comments on more than just blog entries. At least I was under the impression that you could put Disqus comments on anything really (is that not true?). It would be trivially easy to make a site like HN... just a list of links and with disqus comments for each of them. I am working on a project right now where people can suggest strategies for something and others can comment on them. Disqus would be an easy fit there as well. You could host your own photos with some quick gallery code too, but why not let Flickr do it? I think Disqus is in the same category. ~~~ brlewis Yes, you can put Disqus comments on anything that's for public consumption and has a permalink. If you enable Disqus comments on OurDoings, any photo you deem worthy of a caption will get its own comment thread. ------ njetx We've been looking at adding CoComment to our site which I think is very similar. I have been using it and I like the way it records all the comments I make which I can then go back and refer to. However, it feels like we provide them with new customers and we don't get a ton back in return. Anyone implement it or Disqus? ------ DenisM I'm surprised at the number of websites that hide, or as in this case do not have search functionality. Isn't that the first thing you want to do when you arrive at a forum and have a question? ------ andybelike do any social web apps use disqus?
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Being a Musician and Writer Fucking Sucks So I’m Going to Learn JavaScript - 6stringmerc https://medium.com/@6StringMerc/being-a-musician-writer-fucking-sucks-so-im-going-to-learn-javascript-8e02ed2cf382#.ouru49ol0 ====== vogt Good luck to you. I gave up on the dream of being a FT touring musician at 24 after a handful of part time college fail/drop outs to become a designer full time. I had studied it in high school (I went to a Vo-tech HS) and practiced a bit of web design to make a little money between college and playing in bands. I've been working as a designer / front end developer for 5 years now and my work has taken me from my hometown in New England to Texas(where I met my wife), Nevada, and now Washington. About as far from home as I could have ever imagined. It is indeed still a creative existence, but in a much different way. I don't play music at all in my free time anymore, but I now play a lot of D&D, write (currently working on a screenplay and a book), record a podcast, and have creatively fulling software side projects that touch on interests I like. Dog related, mostly. Most of all, money isn't an issue anymore. A low point in my life was on tour digging change out of vending machines to get tacos from jack in the box. That life is behind me now and a lot of the folks who looked down on me for selling out are pushing 30 and living on their parents couch still, feigning rockstardom. ------ Johnny_Brahms I had a job as principal bassoon in a symphony orchestra (80 musicians, so not a "full" orchestra with 4 in each wind group, but still decently sized). Tinnitus ruined that and I had to look for another job. I worked as a librarian in the royal music library in Denmark while studying CS. I did not end up doing what I wanted (Jesus Christ, I work in Pascal!) but I have a great job. I would throw it all out of the window to work with music again though. The core thing for me is that music is all about "spiritually" feeding yourself. Employers realise this, and give you time to do that. I find that for programming this is not the case. I have to struggle to keep my soulby continuously struggling to have fun side projects. ~~~ tomcam I love Pascal! But the tinnitus is a nightmare. Sorry you got it. What caused it? How do you cope with it? I know modern instruments are much louder than they were a few decades ago. ~~~ Roboprog I get the impression that most European shops dodged the C/C++ bullet. They seem to prefer sane Algol derivatives with bounds checking. Here in the US, instead of getting something like "Eiffel", we got "Java", after the insanity of connecting C++ to the internet was demonstrated. It's all cowboy country on this side of the pond :-) ... and yeah, hearing issues are much more serious than problematic programming languages. ------ Roboprog It's funny. I was thinking Friday how much I hate Java, and should have been a rock star :-) But you gotta keep on keepin on (about 30 years as a developer if I include part time work back in school days), and pay the bills for the kids :-( Good luck with those web page layouts and actions and such. ~~~ pawadu Java is lame. You should have co-invented USB, thats what a real rockstar would do [https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=intel+rockstar](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=intel+rockstar) ~~~ Roboprog :-) Java _is_ lame. There's actually a lot of things I like about Javascript better, but it's hard to get people to paradigm shift... And I really liked hanging out in the music department back in my college days (too many years ago). ------ kafkaesq _" I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix, angelheaded hipsters burning for the ancient heavenly connection to the starry dynamo in the machinery of night, who poverty and tatters and hollow-eyed and high sat up smoking in the supernatural darkness of cold-water flats floating across the tops of cities contemplating JavaScript..."_ \-- Allen Ginsburg
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YouTube Launches Site Specifically for Teachers - tilt http://mindshift.kqed.org/2011/09/youtube-launches-site-specifically-for-teachers/ ====== JonnieCache The video at the bottom of that article is amazing. There's several rap covers about biology on their channel, obviously made originally for the purposes of their own revision. This one, about natural selection, is particularly superb: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hUNBhRiKCI> The original track (From 93 Till Infinity by Souls Of Mischief), so you can see how good a version it is: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mt3vZHDiM8> ------ tokenadult The power of branding is illustrated by my mind reading that as "Khan Academy launches site specifically for teachers," and not noticing that YouTube was mentioned (and NOT Khan Academy) until I followed the KQED link submitted here to YouTube Teachers and then registered on that site. It will be interesting to see what this new degree of teacher-friendliness prompts by way of changes to Khan Academy.
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Air Force Looks for ‘Core Algorithms’ of Human Thought - vaksel http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/05/air-force-looks-for-core-algorithms-of-human-thought/ ====== russell The article is skeptical and superficial, but if I were to assemble a research program to create real-world, operates-out-in-the-wild intelligence, my one page executive overview would look a lot like the Air Force requirements. This set of problems is going to be nibbled away a bit at a time. Some of them may be horrendously difficult and some may be low hanging fruit. I think that this will be open research and not filed away in some secret warehouse a la Raiders of the Lost Ark. ------ inigojones So this is kind of like the study of how humans think ... or their "cognition", say. You could call it a ... cognitive science. I only mention this because the phrase "cognitive science" isn't mentioned once in the linked article or the call for proposals. Cognitive scientists have been working on the problem of finding the "algorithms of thought" for decades. Look at Marr's Vision, or Randy Gallistel's body of work (in particular his new book Memory and the computational brain) for examples. ------ stcredzero Noah Shachtman gets a downmod for no research. We have _some_ idea of what the components of the mind are now. We can relate all of the branches of mathematics and science to specific areas of function with an evolutionary basis. [http://www.amazon.com/How-Mind-Works-Steven- Pinker/dp/039333...](http://www.amazon.com/How-Mind-Works-Steven- Pinker/dp/0393334775) ------ ajross Reading only the headline: how many thought this was a joke? I mean, really, a huge AI/neuroscience crossover result coming out of ... a DoD project? Sadly, it's not a joke; just a really bad idea and a not-funny-enough blog post making fun of it.
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Why Singapore has yet to produce a truly innovative startup - williswee https://www.techinasia.com/talk/innovation-where-art-thou ====== lazylizard there was creative..and that popiah skin manufacturer?
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Ask HN: I'm a startup founder with 2 near deaths, what do I do? - anononyc http://inetpro.org/pastebin/10964/view/raw<p>Expires on may 11th ====== ColinWright <http://inetpro.org/pastebin/10964/view/raw> I've been trying to work out how I can best help, what advice I can offer, because I'd like to help. However, I hesitate because I've never been in your position. I've never had seed or angel funding, and I've never fallen out with colleagues. My funding situation has been significantly different, and my co- founders and over 20 employees have always got on well. But I can offer some advice. I think you need to explain your case and situation much, _much_ more coherently. You need to separate independently verifiable facts from feelings and opinions, and you need a better narrative, a better presentation of your quandry. I suspect that those who are genuinely in a position to help will simply give up part way through and find themselves unable to care, but you need to give yourself the best chance you can. Good luck, I hope it ends well. ------ sandyc Get a lawyer - thats what you really need by the sounds of things. ~~~ ColinWright Lots of people say that in all sorts of situations, but it never seems to me that it ever helps. It seems that lawyers always make things more adversarial, they extract money whether they make things better or not, and there's rarely, if ever, any way to change your mind once you've got them in. When I was a part of a semi-hostile management buyout the lawyers only ever made it worse. Things were rescued more than once by talking directly with the other parties despite the lawyers' advice. But if it seems irrecoverable, usually I'd rather just walk away. YMMV. ~~~ JoachimSchipper Knowing that "if he doesn't give in, I'll take him to court and take everything he owns" can be a real advantage in negotiations. For that matter, "she's totally within her rights" or "that clause is not enforceable" are good to know too. This is more about a BATNA than about letting lawyers negotiate for you, though. ------ pclark Could you just walk away from this company and launch a competing one? It sounds like you've had a terrible run of luck with jerk investors/business people, and sometimes a clean cap table and such is just what you need.
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Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation backtracks on one-year parental leaves - prostoalex https://qz.com/work/1541822/the-bill-melinda-gates-foundation-is-backtracking-on-year-long-parental-leaves/ ====== simonsarris > [heading] How do they manage in Canada? > In Canada, companies have had no option but to make 52-week parental leaves > work, when requested, since 2000. The question Canadian companies ask isn’t > “Can we do it?” but “How do we do it?” Okay, so... how do they do it? They never answer the question. If you have say, a CFO or a specialist mechanic (that you only need 1 of, but definitely need) and they take a year off, what do you do? Just go without a CFO/mechanic for the year? Or do you start the hiring search, bring in another person as a temp CFO for a year? What if you can't find a temp, so you hire someone? Is the person entitled to their old job back? Do you fire the new person or the old one? What if the person takes parental leave again after 1 month back? Do you accept that you've torpedoed some role? Do you try to slowly phase out this person's job description and offload their work onto their coworkers? More succinctly, what if someone is definitely necessary in the near-day-to- day, and does not do work that is interchangeable with other employees? I'm not trying to make some kind of gotcha. I really don't know the answer, and I figured the article would answer what seem like extremely obvious questions that arise, but it didn't. I _suspect_ that firms _have_ learned to deal with it, but by doing things like passively selecting against women and younger people for critical roles. Is _that_ how they manage? Is that an improvement? There's also something unsettling about "here's how [countries where the native birth rate is pretty much 0 or 1 babies] do parental leave!" feels a bit like... the women already did half the corporation's work for them. ~~~ unavoidable Surprisingly few people are actually trying to answer this question on this thread. The answer is straightforward: you either structure your organization so that there are enough overlapping responsibilities to account for parental leaves (e.g. good business practice of not making a fragile organization), or you hire a temporary employee explicitly on a 1 year "parental leave" contract. The labour market is quite good, and there is no shortage of qualified individuals for almost all positions (CFO, specialists included). Often, a good temp ends up getting another position at the same company after doing the 1-year contract. There is also a small cottage industry of successful individuals who basically take such jobs. Maybe hard to accept for some, but the world doesn't end when people go on leave to have kids. It also turns out that most people (that I know) are quite happy to buy into this particular social contract. There is a tacit understanding that you might have to pick up the slack a bit for someone else, but one day you might need the same in return - borrowing against the future is another way to think about it. Source: Canadian, have worked in organizations and involved in hiring policies where this is successful. ~~~ bluecalm It's surely doable in big organizations but small businesses it's an overwhelming cost even if the government pays the salary of the worker on a leave (the only way it can really work). Maybe the answer to that problem is that really important employees who make a lot of money shouldn't be hired as normal workers but as contractors. Something like: if you get 3x more average salary then you are important but you only get paid if you work and standard protections don't apply. If you get a normal salary standard protections apply but then we will hopefully be able to find replacement for you at reasonable cost. It would be nice if I at least don't nee to re-hire you after covering big costs of getting your replacement up to speed. If I am looking for 3rd programmer in my 2 person small company I will not risk hiring a young woman as getting a new employee to the stage where they contribute value is a huge cost. If I am hiring a cleaning lady or social media specialist then I won't have problems because I will easily find the replacement on the market and they can be productive from day one. If you think it's immoral, think again. I have responsibilities towards my family to provide for them. I won't take risk which can ruin my source of income for the sake of someone's children. What is immoral is forcing employers to cover that risk. ~~~ lhorie > If I am looking for 3rd programmer in my 2 person small company I will not > risk hiring a young woman Ignoring the fact that this kind of discrimination is flat out illegal, you are forgetting to consider that the Canadian policy allows males to take parental leave as well, so the excuse for the discrimination isn't even logically consistent. Personally, having lead teams of people ranging from experienced professionals to interns still in school, I find it extremely hard to imagine a small business that is such a special snowflake that "getting a new employee to the stage where they contribute value is a huge cost". I could get interns to be productive in a day or two. In many fields of work, such as early education, there are standardized accreditations so an employer can basically just pick and choose from a pool of qualified individuals who will be ready-to-work on day 1. As the other poster said, standard fare in parental leaves is to hire a contractor for a 1 year contract. By the end of the year, worst case is your business grew 0%, you get your full-time employee back and it's business as usual. A more realistic scenario is your business grew by some amount that now allows you to hire the temp person full time. ~~~ Mirioron > _you are forgetting to consider that the Canadian policy allows males to > take parental leave as well, so the excuse for the discrimination isn 't > even logically consistent._ But they are much less likely to take this parental leave. > _Personally, having lead teams of people ranging from experienced > professionals to interns still in school, I find it extremely hard to > imagine a small business that is such a special snowflake that "getting a > new employee to the stage where they contribute value is a huge cost"._ Well, everyone else doesn't get to always run wildly successful small businesses. Most small businesses fail. I imagine that if you yank out a significant portion of their workforce that they'll be even more likely to fail. > _By the end of the year, worst case is your business grew 0%, you get your > full-time employee back and it 's business as usual._ Aka your small business shuts its doors, because the market has moved on and you couldn't keep up. Half the businesses fail within the first 5 years. Only a third of businesses survive 10 years. ~~~ lhorie > But they are much less likely to take this parental leave If you want to talk about likelihoods, consider that in most companies, the chance that an employee of any gender will leave for a random reason is much higher than someone of any gender taking parental leave. Trying to skirt the law to "optimize" for least parental leaves is kinda like sending a memo to your employees telling them to always run red lights and jaywalk to get to work faster. It's one of those "not even wrong" kinds of things. > Most small businesses fail This is a non sequitur. Businesses fail for all sorts of reasons. Your restaurant staff ghosting you, not enough clients, spending stupidly after raising money, etc. If your business fails due to a parental leave of all things, let me tell you, you were probably severely delusional about its viability to begin with. > Aka your small business shuts its doors I believe I mentioned a fitting example where this could not be farther from the truth (early education) ~~~ Mirioron But none of the things you mentioned are different between men and women. Parental leave is simply a risk factor on top of what you mentioned. > _If your business fails due to a parental leave of all things, let me tell > you, you were probably severely delusional about its viability to begin > with._ Let's take an extreme case: a 1 person business. If I, the business owner, take parental leave then my business is pretty much guaranteed to fail. The rate gets lower the more employees and capital you have, because you can mitigate the risk, but many businesses are susceptible to this risk, because they simply don't have the resources to mitigate it. That doesn't really tell you much about the viability of the business. It says much more about the resources the business had available. Not everyone is born with a silver spoon in their mouth. ~~~ lhorie I actually have a friend who runs a restaurant with her husband. It's an _extremely low margins_ business with brutally long hours. She got pregnant and eventually took time off (she went back to China for a few months to get her parents to help with the baby). When she came back a few months later, surprise surprise, the business was still there. Did they have worries? Sure, stress from wait staff turnover, an air conditioner that was too expensive to fix, chairs. But leaving for an extended period of time to decompress from work stress was something her husband supported despite the temp long distance relationship and the extra burden on himself because he knew that would help them cope better in the long term. Let's be honest, anyone can come up with ridiculous hypothetical situations where "obviously" parental leave is the only evil in the world and must be banished. But at the end of the day, they're just that: hypotheticals with no basis in reality. I've seen businesses succeed and fail and I've seen parental leaves in these businesses. Parental leaves are simply not as deciding of a factor as one might like to fantasize, and anyone who wants to argue against them might want to look at the silver spoons in their own mouths before casting stones at others. ~~~ Mirioron Restaurants aren't exactly businesses where people become difficult to replace. Imagine you had a company that was trying to start a video service and the expert on ffmpeg goes on parental leave half way through. Good luck replacing somebody like that if you're not in a tech hotspot. ~~~ lhorie > Imagine you had a company that was trying to start a video service and the > expert on ffmpeg goes on parental leave half way through Typically you get like 3-6 months notice on a parental leave, so you've got plenty of time to find a contractor/consultant, compared to the standard 2 week notice from the much more likely scenario of your expert quitting for greener pastures. If you have such high risk riding on a single employee, you're probably the one to blame: why aren't _you_ (or an equity partner) the expert? Do you not have anything else whatsoever that could be done in the meantime if core development halted/slowed for 6 months? Do you realize an ffmpeg expert can earn twice as much just about anywhere other than your yet- to-be-profitable startup and gets recruiter spam from big tech companies on linkedin every month? Can you even afford benefits and severance for a full time employee in the first place? etc. Blaming a hypothetical business failure on a parental leave is really just finding a scapegoat for one's inability to take responsibility for their own failings. Being in a tech hotspot is irrelevant. I've worked remotely for people in Boulder with a coworker living in Vermont. Again, if you want to run a high tech business from rural Wisconsin with no remote workers, that's on you, and has nothing to do with parental leaves. ------ erentz To be somewhat fair this is still an _amazing_ benefit: “It’s now capping parental leaves at six months and giving parents a taxable $20,000 stipend to defray the costs of childcare.” In the context that they are doing this while few other American organizations do it, and not that many other countries do something this generous. ~~~ hesdeadjim Yea, the article title can practically considered clickbait when this is the resultant change in benefits. Neither my wife or I had a need to be home for an entire year with our child. Three months for me would've been perfect, six would've been a vacation, and six months plus $20k to cover my daycare expenses for the year would've been... well, words fail me. ~~~ bargl OK, I read this felt a wave of relief. I'm not the only one. 1 year off sounds like torture to me. I'm not saying 1 year with my kid is torture. 1 year in the Caribbean would also be torture to me. I get cabin fever after a few weeks. My company did give me 1 month and it was awesome. I was also very happy to return to work after 2 (1 month unpaid). It was refreshing to engage that part of my brain again. ~~~ hesdeadjim Yea I have zero desire to be off from work for that long. I took a sabbatical/break between projects from May until around September this year. I put myself under no real pressure to do anything, and during the weekdays I was free to go mountain biking and do whatever else I felt like. Yet still I worked on random projects for about 60% of the time the entire break. I just crave the deep flow state that comes from building things too much. ------ bargl The fact that after they backed off of the leave they are giving out a 20K bonus for child care is amazing in and of itself. I'm surprised that's not emphasized more. They probably also have very flexible work environment for parents so that when daycare's are closed and other issues crop up the parents can get back in there. I'm a dad of 2, 2 years and 5 year. I don't know if I'd want a year off to stay home with the kids. I'd have loved to get 3 months instead of the 1 month i did get but a year... That just sounds like a lot of cabin fever to me. I'm sure a lot of people would appreciate it, so I'm 100% not knocking it at all. This new benefit is more attractive to me at least. ~~~ fastbeef I have to say, the first day at work after 9 months of parental leave is... sublime. To be able to go to the bathroom and close the door is a pleasure you don’t know until you have to go without. As an aside, what happens to children in the US between 1 month until they start kindergarten (and at what age)? ~~~ dyarosla Private daycare or nannies fill the gap. ~~~ bradlys There is also stay at home parents. Somewhere around 20%. [http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/09/24/stay-at- home...](http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/09/24/stay-at-home-moms- and-dads-account-for-about-one-in-five-u-s-parents/) ------ fastbeef I’m not surprised. This is so different to how workplaces are usually run in the US that organizations, or society even, has no institutional memory on how to deal with it. In Sweden, where 400+ days of parental leave has been mandatory for years organization have adapted and learned patterns and ways to deal with people dissappearing for around a year. It’s a shame the Gates Foundation didn’t research this better before diving in. ~~~ chrisco255 People aren't easily replaceable...especially high talent individuals. It's also a big burden for an organization to pay for non-productive workers. And if someone has several children in a row...then what? What are the limits? ~~~ fastbeef Its paid by the government, funded by taxes, at the same level as sick leave/disability. Some (most) companies actually chip in a little (or a lot) to ease the income loss as a perk. ------ alkonaut “How do other countries do it?” Well it’s not an employer deciding whether it’s done so organizations just deal with it. And yes it does give effects that last years and disrupt organizations three layers deep. But it happens to _all_ organizations, so it’s not a competitive disadvantage. ~~~ chrisco255 Except on a global scale. ~~~ chefkoch In Germany we have 12 months parental leave and it seems the country is doing quite well. ~~~ ar0 Salaries especially for specialist jobs tend to be quite a bit lower in Germany (as is the case in Canada) than in countries like the U.S. or Switzerland which have much less generous parental leave, though. Of course, parental leave is just one variable here, but in a way this is the obvious trade-off: You can have more parental leave and lower salaries, or less parental leave and higher salaries. (The same is true for all other non- monetary benefits of a job such as job protection etc.) On a country-level, both options can work equally well. Me, personally, I would pick the "more parental leave and lower salaries", but I get that other people might feel differently. (Edit: This cuts the other way around, too, by the way. Often people in Germany will complain that people across the border in Switzerland -- or in Silicon Valley -- will earn much more, but they ignore that working days are longer, with less vacation time, less parental leave etc.) ~~~ chrisco255 Yeah it would be amazing if people could understand that there are big trade- offs with every socialistic policy. U.S. GDP per capita [1] (2018): $65,060 Germany GDP per capita [1] (2018): $49,690 The U.S. earns 22% more per capita than Germany. Imagine if the U.S. implemented policies such that our economy slowed to Germany's per capita rate. At our current GDP of $20.66 trillion, it would wipe over $4 trillion from our GDP. Seeing as the U.S. is the biggest marketplace in the world (in terms of dollars), it would have trickle down effects that would dramatically depress the world economy. [1]: [https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/NGDPDPC@WEO/USA/DEU/...](https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/NGDPDPC@WEO/USA/DEU/SWE) ------ beart As a parent, I would much rather take that year and use it to shorten my normal working week for as long as possible. With 260 working days a year, you could work 4 days a week for the first five years of your child's life. ~~~ Haydos585x2 In Australia that's not unheard of. Plenty of women (and men) will go to a 3 or 4 day work week for a longer stretch rather than taking a full 12 months off. ~~~ AmericanChopper I know a couple of people who permanently negotiated 4 day working weeks after becoming parents. One of them has his daughter at some sort of parent run day care, where each of the parents spends one day a week staffing it, so they all work 4 days (at most) and spend at least one day looking after all the kids. ------ rb808 I once worked with a guy who had 4 children in 5 years. He took a lot of parental leave, sick days and often slacked off early. As soon as the last baby was stable he quit for a new job. Companies and teams that are too generous get shafted. ~~~ SketchySeaBeast Sounds like he's the sort of guy that would work the system no matter what - he could be an argument against sick days or flexible hours as well. There will always be people like that, but if the societal good outweighs the few bad apples, I'd argue that's a plus in general. ~~~ cheesymuffin Yeah, it's really unfortunate when someone cares more about raising well- adjusted kids than the Company. ~~~ SketchySeaBeast That's true. Not only is one person being bad not a strong argument for not endorsing something, but this person could be actually doing good for his family - caring for his kids or something, and just not sharing the information. ------ randyrand It seems very odd to me that parental leave is paid for by companies and not by taxes/society. It completely messes up incentives. Should it really be the case that if you're unemployed when you give birth that you have go a significant time without work? Or if you start you 1-year leave 5 weeks into a new job that the company has to pay you for a year? ~~~ duderific > It seems very odd to me that parental leave is paid for by companies and not > by taxes/society. It completely messes up incentives. Indeed. The same could be said for health care. ------ sergers In Canada you can now take 18 months shared paternal leave. First 12 months you are entitled to employment insurance which is a certain percentage of your income. The next 6 months are unpaid. Our recent company ethics training had a interesting scenario on maternity leave discrimination and comments. Some work places if you are key employee in some aspect entice you with pay, more flexible working conditions or provided daycare for coming back early. My company deals with it by hiring contract workers. Some content could take years to learn, so we recently shifted the core duties to remaining members and gave the contract worker remedial/administrative tasks which we all hated any ways. Overall things still function smoothly \- however we have an interesting scenario coming up in the next few months where one employee is retiring and two are going on paternity leave (me being one, but only taking a month off using vacation as my wife plans To hog the paternity leave lol... it does make sense financially. It will be interestinghow my company handles losing 3 key members of a 7 person team(atleast I will be gone a month only) ------ bradlys Didn't know they had such an extremely generous benefit. 52 weeks of paid time off is a huge benefit. I think people here are underestimating how huge that is - it is far better than _any country_. I don't see any countries that offer 100% PTO for parental leave. Most cap it at $XXX/week or some percentage like 50-66% that is a far cry from 100%. (Which I assume still has a true upper limit but isn't well documented in articles) Personally, I can't imagine having kids here in the bay area unless I finally hit big startup riches or get a job at FAANG. A month isn't enough time off and unemployment is going to be severely financially draining when state benefits won't even pay half my rent (And the financial burden of health insurance will probably devour most of that before it even gets to paying rent anyway). C'est la vie. ~~~ maaaats Most employers of high-skilled/paid workers in Norway pay the gap between your current salary and what the government pays. ------ zaroth Guaranteeing a job opening (and presumably the same position, or at least the same salary) for a year is a huge ask. I suppose there are two problems. One is paying partial or full salary during the leave, and the other is getting a job when you’re ready to return. The first problem is easy to solve just like unemployment, except that in this case it’s paid based on voluntary leave. Since companies don’t make the decision, companies wouldn’t be penalized for having employees take the leave like they can be with unemployment though. The second issue of finding a place to work when you’re ready to return is tricky. It’s absolutely unfair in certain situations for the company and particularly the specific team for someone to take a year leave and have to hold their spot. But I also understand you want to minimize friction of returning to work. In many cases the person taking leave isn’t doing anything particularly specialized and it’s a complete non-issue. I don’t know how you might try to codify how specialized a position is other than a salary cap. For example, if you’re paid less than $X and the company has over 50 employees, your position is guaranteed. Over $X or 50 and under employees and you have a job search at the end of the paid leave. ------ groestl We (Austria) have up to 1063 days of paid parental leave (paid for by social security), if both parents decide to take it. It seems our companies manage :) ~~~ bpicolo > paid for by social security This seems to be the key in countries with similar policies. You wouldn't see that system grow in the US as it stands, because companies pay for leave. ------ throwawaysea I'm fine with this. They have to strike a reasonable and sustainable balance. Thinking more broadly, I am not sure it makes sense to subsidize having more children. Sustaining the standard of living we expect today with the population numbers we have is simply not viable, since those standards carry heavy externalities. ------ nottorp Summary: countries with mandatory parental leave have the parents paid at least partially by those high social security taxes, so it's no problem to hire a replacement. If the company has to pay the parental leave _and_ the replacement, it's of course more difficult. Easy enough... ------ torpfactory Isn’t a solution to allow parents to work part time instead of being completely off or on? I feel like most people could still make valuable contributions at 50% time, at least for knowledge workers. Maybe like build up from time off back to full time over many months? ------ wittedhaddock They ought to receive overwhelming congratulations and support for testing the idea How do we create a culture that totally celebrates the process of experimentation even if the results from the result test aren't the pie in the sky we hoped for? ------ tathougies I am against one-year parental leaves. My wife and I want ten children. That means ten years off work? How can a company manage? What if I were a less moral man and got two women pregnant a year? I mean, it's not that difficult. Even for faithful men, we plan on trying again (last baby born in December) in a few months. Is it really fair to ask my company to pay for my sex life? More worryingly, what kind of incentive does this set up? Obviously, it would force companies to adopt policies that overall reduce the reproduction rate of society. This can hardly be said to be a good thing. The number of children my wife and I have should be determined by our ability to support them and our willingness to have them. I am perfectly able to support children with my salary, and I'd prefer to spend my time making that salary, rather than having it handed to us. Nevertheless, the main reason I am against them is that it removes all incentives from employers (and government, by extension) to make things better for parents that are actually _working_. I'd rather have a more flexible schedule and more vacation than one year of parental leave. Or to live in a society where only one parent has to work. ~~~ perfmode Your argument is so convoluted that you were probably better off not saying anything at all. It seems like you're starting from a conclusion and providing all of the things that support your conclusion. Instead, consider all the data and see what conclusions are revealed. You haven't conceded a single merit to the counterargument. ~~~ tathougies I started from a conclusion (that one year parental leave is a good thing) and then argued it leads to a number of outcomes which I deem unsatisfactory. Thus, I reject the initial conclusion. This is a form of argument by contradiction, or reductio ad absurdum. Part of it, is actually assuming the conclusion and then showing that it contradicts itself or leads to other unsavoriness. One criticism of reductio ad absurdum is if the arguer sets up a straw man, but I'm not sure you've successfully pointed out any straw man in my argument. ~~~ perfmode Using Latin terms doesn’t change the fact that your argument is intellectually dishonest. Name a single, unqualified societal benefit to a one year leave. ~~~ tathougies > Using Latin terms Reductio ad absurdum is an English phrase. Derived from Latin certainly, but it does not require understanding Latin (a language which I do not speak) to comprehend. > Name a single, unqualified societal benefit to a one year leave. You are demanding I argue against my argument as evidence for my own argument? That seems to me the height of intellectual dishonesty. A single unqualified social benefit is that people like me would be able to take many years off work, which I think would just be grand, because I'm rather lazy and other people paying for tathougies to play with babies sounds great! Is that a social benefit? ~~~ perfmode > Intellectual honesty is an applied method of problem solving, characterized > by an unbiased, honest attitude, which can be demonstrated in a number of > different ways: > One's personal faith does not interfere with the pursuit of truth; > Relevant facts and information are not purposefully omitted even when such > things may contradict one's hypothesis; > Facts are presented in an unbiased manner, and not twisted to give > misleading impressions or to support one view over another; > References, or earlier work, are acknowledged where possible, and plagiarism > is avoided. ------ garyrichardson This is the same level of horseshit as Medical coverage for all and single payer. Maybe it wasn’t working the foundation because the US has such a pent up demand for parental leave that people who want to have families target working there. My company recently rolled out some pretty sweet parental policies and lo and behold we have a bunch of people taking advantage of it. Here in Canada, there is always someone on parental leave. You just deal with it. Generally speaking, execs and c levels operate at a different financial level and parental leave is not as life changing as it is for your typical middle class worker. America, get it together and start treating your people with dignity and respect. You’re a first world country. Your people deserve better. ------ randyrand My mom had 4 children within 7 years. It's crazy to think someone could be employed somewhere 7 years and only work 3. You'd have to hire 2.3 people to get 1 full-time employee! ~~~ Pfhreak > It's crazy to think someone could be employed somewhere 7 years and only > work 3. Alternative take: It's humane to think that someone who had four kids wouldn't lose their job because they had four kids. ~~~ randyrand Is it? Having 4 kids is not exactly something anyone _has_ to do. Where we spend our time is a choice. If someone decides to spend significantly less time working to raise 4 kids, is it really inhumane to allow the employer to replace them with someone who wants to spend more time working? ~~~ qgsrw3fd Actually yes, we definitely must encourage having more kids. ------ tgtweak I kind of feel, and this is simply based on the personal observations of a few dozen parental leaves (including a few in my own family) that it's not so much the duration of time, but the ease back into work that is the important factor in reaching maximum balance for the family and company. I think 6 months off (26 weeks) is a good number, but spreadable over 18 months at the will of the parent. I feel this would make things much better than a cold-cut 6 months then back into the fire that a traditional 6 month leave would garner. I see a 3 months of full time off, followed with 2 days a week for 3 months, then 3 days for 2 more months before returning in full would be more beneficial to most companies and families to avoid the "that resource is gone for more than a quarter and needs to be replaced" conflict that happens during a 6 or 12 month "cold turkey" approach. I've also seen noticeable anxiety in mothers about returning to the workplace after a 12 month absence, compared to a 3 month. I see the Canadian system being praised a lot in these comments, and in fact there are many laudable benefits to the system, but several acute shortcomings which are often overlooked when touting socialized parental leave. The system is firstly paid by deductions made to all salaries, which differs from an employer-paid system where the employer pays the leave. Under the Canadian system, if a company decides to pay an employee for the period, the government contributes that much less. This has a chilling effect on companies paying for leave, where almost all do not since there is no credit to employees working for a company which offers this, and individuals are still taxed the same on this portion. Additionally, it is a maximum of 12 months split between the father and mother, and depending on the duration and the % of father or mother, is a sliding scale between 50% and 75% of either your trailing salary for 6 months or a maximum of $60,000 per year, whichever is less. This makes it very difficult for a single breadwinner to support a family of 3 for a period of 1 year off of this benefit alone. In the majority of cases I'm familiar with, those individuals who took their 2 weeks and returned to work simply because the proposed benefit is not enough to pay the bills, thereby forfeiting tax benefits that they paid for and will continue to pay towards for the rest of their salaried life. And while you do stop contributing to this for the year once you pass $60,000 in pay for the year, there is no "exemption" if you don't use it and certainly no "payout" if you don't. In addition to this, you are taxed at your marginal tax % on any benefits you receive from this program, making it even less palatable for someone in a high tax bracket looking to take several months of leave. Someone in this tax bracket is usually working in a role that requires specialized knowledge or skills and are by that very nature harder to replace/restaff - even looking away from the impact to the company, taking that leave in many cases results in making some career sacrifices for that parent. A 3 month fully paid leave (to both parents) with no tax deduction would be preferable to the current system in almost all cases I've seen.
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How we do coding assignments (hiring engineers) - digitalbase https://medium.com/@gijsnelissen/how-we-do-coding-assignments-dad420e0573e ====== coreyp_1 It should probably be pointed out that, even if you are paying them for their time, you must also have some sort of IP agreement for the code that they produce. ~~~ digitalbase hmmm good comment. I don't plan on using their code so do we really need an IP agreement ? (don't like paperwork) ~~~ coreyp_1 If there is ever a chance that you might use it (or something similar to it in the future), I would most definitely do the paperwork. If you don't do the paperwork, then that means that they own the code (laws may vary on this, of course), and can use it in their own product or sell it to someone else. Of course, IANAL, but IP management has become an important topic lately, and this is one of the issues.
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Ask HN: If Facebook was written today, what language would you recommend? - tiuPapa Note: Not the fb with millions of LOC but the initial one with a few thousands that started it all. ====== taprun Whatever you are best at writing. Scale doesn't matter much compared to traction early on. ~~~ hellbreaker By far the best comment about programming. It really doesn't matter until you get into the millions of users. And the chances of that are slim. So focus on traction before scale. ------ matchmike1313 I agree with taprun, whatever you are proficient in. I would build it with Node.JS probably or a VueJS front-end with a Go backend. ------ meric Typescript, react?
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Show HN: Cliplingo – turns YouTube into spaced repetition language learning - Ondrej72 https://www.cliplingo.com ====== Ondrej72 What was originally a simple tool for my own learning and memorising, turned into a real project for everyone. Youtube is full of great content for learning videos. But there hasn’t been a way to organise them with spaced repetition. I love to learn the grammar or collocations from YT videos but then I fail to remember what I’ve just learned. Cliplingo automatically prompts the video from the lesson that need to be revised, by the rules of spaced repetition. Each repetition will play a different video with the given topic, so you will not see the same video over and over again. ~~~ BukhariH Currently working on my French - was super interested to use this but it's not working. Looks like the request to: [https://www.cliplingo.com/lesson/start?id=18](https://www.cliplingo.com/lesson/start?id=18) Returns an empty video id: [https://pastebin.com/8JemA2T3](https://pastebin.com/8JemA2T3) Hopefully you can fix it soon - super excited to use it! ~~~ Ondrej72 Thanks for heads up! It is fixed now.
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Ask HN: What is the quickest way to implement user management for my SaaS - cs747 Implementing user management functionalities such as<p>- user registration - email&#x2F;phone number verification - user login - forget username or password - account deletion - etc For SaaS is a common requirement. What are the best ways available today to implement these functionalities quickly without wasting the resources? ====== brudgers File based access under a Unix with users and groups. Assuming you know or are willing to learn a Unix. ------ phynax Perhaps take a look at auth0 or amazon cognitio. Google will find you lots of usage examples in your language.
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A Better Vim – How to Configure Neovim - superskierpat http://patrickmarchand.com/posts/neovim-tuto.html ====== superskierpat My first blog post after a request on lobsters. Commentaries, suggestions and insults welcome.
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Strange Russian Spacecraft Shadowing U.S. Spy Satellite - davedx https://time.com/5779315/russian-spacecraft-spy-satellite-space-force/ ====== ColinWright Discussion: [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22207683](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22207683) Other sources for the story: [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22204838](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22204838) : thedailybeast.com [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22200881](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22200881) : Extended Twitter discussion [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22229130](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22229130) : interstellarspecies.blogspot.com Other submissions: [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22209705](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22209705) : theverge.com [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22196710](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22196710) : twitter.com [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22287833](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22287833) : technologyreview.com ------ simonblack _at times creeping within 100 miles of it._ OMG! Within 100 miles! Oh the humanity! Wake me up when it gets to within ONE mile.
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Paint the earth - tosh https://what-if.xkcd.com/84/ ====== qubex My family business is in the paint manufacturing sector. This is quite amusing. Paint is literally one of the most boring things in the universe. However, I must point out he has not thought of manufactured objects that need to be painted.
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CoffeeScript and Progress - focusaurus http://peterlyons.com/problog/2012/03/coffeescript-and-progress ====== dustingetz he's missed the point. people aren't saying that "CoffeeScript is a priori somehow wrong or inferior or a bad choice". Coffeescript is an abstraction, and abstractions have potential to leak, so some people are questioning whether the benefits of coffeescript - namely, prettier code - are "worth it" for production-scale projects. as your project gets big, does coffeescript help us write more maintainable code, better abstract our solutions so we can keep less things in our head at once, resulting in higher agility and fewer bugs? When you look at the deep reasons why a large codebase went sour, you're not blaming it on things like list comprehensions, you're blaming it on things like "Java strong-arms us towards building abstractions with only OOP, which over the course of a few years builds into indecipherable layers of implementation inheritance, causing high defect rates and much decreased agility". The difference between CoffeeScript and Javascript, in terms of what a team can accomplish, hasn't been proven in production-scale projects. they may be, or maybe only for some teams, or maybe they aren't, but you can't debate something without being able to articulate the opponent's position. update: interestingly, ClojureScript may be a language where the productivity delta from javascript is much larger, and is better worth it. clojurescript introduces new ideas and idioms to the js community, where coffeescript is an incremental update to javascript with no new ideas. ~~~ focusaurus I think programmer productivity is also linked to happiness given one's own tools. My experience thus far is I'm happier when working with CoffeeScript. Not "OMG P0nies" happier, but significantly happier. I think the amount of boilerplate CS removes is significant, but indeed whether it is worthwhile depends on many factors in any given situation. Given how CS maps to JS, I'm not too worried about leaky abstractions. ~~~ dustingetz > programmer productivity is also linked to happiness given one's own tools so i certainly agree with this, but in my experience, as the problems get harder, my happiness isn't determined by syntax. the things that make me mad are "i have to fix this defect but this code is a fragile mess which i'm afraid to touch, so i bandaid on more hacks to have the minimum possible area of impact so i know for certain that i can give this to the client and it won't make things worse". that makes me fucking furious, man, the artist in me dies a little bit every time I do it. We have this issue in our large javascript codebase. CoffeeScript would probably help a little bit, but a speculative 2x improvement in "fucking furious" is still furious. This opinion is probably along the lines of those who think CoffeeScript is a toy. List comprehensions don't fix our problem; we (my team) just don't care. investing in education, growing the teams ability to craft well factored code and stable code, that will have exponential payoff. Now you can get meta here and say a language like ClojureScript which brings Clojure's strong opinions about managing complexity and crafting good abstractions - you get better just by using it, its sort of self-educating. ClojureScript has my attention. ------ unoti If you're considering trying Coffeescript, here are a few thoughts for you. Remember that the Vim plugin for Coffeescript compiles your Coffeescript to a js automatically every time you save, and it even shows you immediately if there are any errors. I've had difficulty setting up other Vim plugins, but this one was blessedly simple to get going. An awesome tool for helping you to learn Coffeescript is the "Try Coffeescript" tab on <http://coffeescript.org/>. This lets you type a little bit of stuff, and see how it translates into Javascript, in realtime, while you type. I still use this today when I'm trying to verify I'm on the right track with a bit of punctuation (meaning, leaving punctuation out, usually). ~~~ lloeki Also, a bunch of shortcuts[0] and Syntastic (which Just Works) makes it absolutely blissful. Note that although :CoffeeCompile operates on the whole file by default, it also works on buffer regions, so _vai,c_ shows me the current block as JS ( _i_ is from indent-object plugin) [0] [http://esa-matti.suuronen.org/blog/2011/11/28/how-to- write-c...](http://esa-matti.suuronen.org/blog/2011/11/28/how-to-write- coffeescript-efficiently/) ------ robterrell _Ouch, my eyes! All those closing punctuation groups!_ This seems to come up often, the purported ugliness of JavaScript. To rebut, I'll use one of his own arguments: _I don't really know why people bring this up so often. It's just a non- problem for me._ ------ jcampbell1 > The few who responded seemed to dislike it, not for any particular technical > objection to the language or its features, but simply to its existence at > all, which surprised me. It seems that the author is surprised by rational human behavior. A new language introduces a tradeoff between having a new tool that may better solve your problems, and introducing fragmentation where the developer must invest time learning a new language and tooling or the developer faces a smaller body of code that he can work on. I like and use CS, but the author's philosophy that more languages in use always better for everyone, is fundamentally flawed. ~~~ focusaurus So let me clarify that my general take on the state of programming languages today is that they are all pretty terrible and we don't have a good track record of fixing known flaws with them. With tend to just live with them. Given that, most new languages offer a shining chance at progress toward something better. They indicate someone is thinking about the problem and trying to help. Thus by default I like new programming languages per say. But yes, each does add to the total body of stuff out there, which has a cost. ------ showell30 This is Rob Pike's take on FUD toward new programming languages: [http://commandcenter.blogspot.com/2011/12/esmereldas- imagina...](http://commandcenter.blogspot.com/2011/12/esmereldas- imagination.html) ------ ajuc If f g h x boils down to f(g(h(x))) and [1 2 3] boils down to [1, 2, 3] Then what is the meaning of [f 1] ? EDIT: I've tried on <http://coffeescript.org/> and it seems a = [1 2 3] doesn't work? EDIT2: newlines instead of spaces works, my bad ~~~ focusaurus Right, array elements separated by new lines works, but CS requires commas between elements in 1-line arrays. I would like to see CS remove commas between array elements but most folks like commas there, it seems. And yes, I guess there's a syntax ambiguity with function arguments that is not easily resolved. I love omitting parens for calling a single function, but doing it more than once per line should be avoided I think. ------ btbuilder I agree with pretty much all of his points. But the argument that code will 'never align' with line numbers seems like a dismissal that debugging exactly what you wrote is very valuable when tracking down subtle bugs. ~~~ focusaurus Fair enough. I don't need line numbers specifically when I have a full-on in- browser graphical debugger so I can debug exactly what is being interpreted. There's work underway to handle mapping back to source files, and when that arrives, it will be "nice". However, listening to NodeUp podcasts, people think that line numbers not lining up is an absolute deal-breaker, which I just don't find to be the case at all in my personal experience. ------ drumdance I don't have an opinion pro or con on this. However, I'm old enough to remember when JavaScript was first introduced as LiveScript and it was mostly seen as a toy for simple stuff while Java was the Real Deal. (I started my first company largely on this premise.) The big competition back then was ActiveX. Remember that? Amazing how things have evolved.
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ToyJVM: An Experimental Java Virtual Machine - sagartewari01 https://github.com/ozy/ToyJVM ====== DannyB2 It's not immediately obvious, but what class library does it work with? Gnu Classpath? Something else? If this doesn't have a good deal of the rest of the built in Java ecosystem, then does it have much value or usefulness? Does it have a possible advantage without a JIT, like being able to run in constrained amounts of memory? ------ abc_lisper This is amazing! This would be very useful for people (esp. students) who want to get to the core of the internals without getting bogged down by details and optimization. ------ quangio When seeing VM, I think about JIT, GC... This is "just" a bytecode interpreter (I don't mean to tell the project isn't worth sharing but it's quite misleading)
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On being a woman linux kernel developer - tathagatadg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dro2v44wvs0 Linux developer Sarah Sharp shares her story about how she became a Linux kernel developer, as well as what it means to be a woman today in the open source software community. ====== eknuth Cool, I saw her garden automation talk at osbridge!
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Ask HN: I think my co-founder is freaking out about getting sued. - gitgo I think have a serious problem with my co-founder and I’m not sure how to handle it. We just launched an adaption{1} of the popular Yo App and we are getting lots of downloads. But now, he is freaking out about getting sued for using a similar name and layout as the Yo app. Mostly he is worried about having Yo in the app title, which I don’t see any problem with. However, now he changed the app title in our play store account a second time without telling me so in response, I blocked his access.<p>His main argument for not using Yo in our name, is that we shouldn’t be gaining traction from what others have built. However, I think tries to make up arguments why we should change the name. Also, in my opinion our app is significantly different to Yo and he is simply getting worked up about us getting sued for copyright infringement or intellectual property theft.<p>Moreover, having yo in the name is crucial for our app to gain traction as it communicates to people that they can do “one-word” communication to their friends similar to Yo, just in a bit of a different way.<p>I think my question is, is there any way we could get sued realistically? The thing is that we’re in German jurisdiction, so there is not much anyone can sue us about outside of Germany and if it goes through, it would take a year or so, wouldn’t it?<p>{1} https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.google.com&#x2F;store&#x2F;apps&#x2F;details?id=com.messenger.labs ====== moduloo i think it depends on the terms&conditions of google's playstore. just because you are german doesnt meant you cant ge sued by american laws, and i know that german and american laws are quite dirrefent when it comes to compensation (schadensersatz). suggestions: delete references to "Yo" from your product-name (name it Jo instead); "Yo" is a registered trademark; you wouldnt name a chocolate you created "ritter sport", even if your name was armin ritter ------ throwaway420 a) Not a lawyer, but the worst you'd likely get is a cease and desist letter, not a lawsuit out of the blue. Especially if you're located in another country. b) It's ok to have a difference in opinion, but your co-founder should not be making major product decisions without you. That, to me, would be most concerning. c) How should you handle it? Decide on clear roles, and develop the product further so that there's a clear difference between you and other products. ~~~ ColinWright Expanding on (c) ... There will be times when you have a difference of opinion. The person who specifically and explicitly has control has, indeed, got control. It's the other person's job to try to convince them. Working together well means taking the time to listen to concerns, then making a decision. Sometimes that means changing your mind. This is not a competition between you. Changing your mind or not changing your mind is neither victory nor loss. But for every decision, someone should have control, and their job, in part, is to keep the other person informed. That feeds back to point (b) above. ------ sharemywin I'd be more worried about getting permanately banned from the app store. using your logic why not put imessage in your title? ------ paulhauggis I'm going create an app called "yo2". Where's my million dollars?
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Agent - Go-like concurrency in Ruby - dpaluy https://github.com/igrigorik/agent ====== dpaluy <http://vimeo.com/49718712> Concurrency is not parallelism by Rob Pike ~~~ dustybenshee It's true that concurrency is not parallelism... but why did you bring it up. This project is about concurrency. Nobody has confused it with parallelism. The linked pages doesn't even mention parallelism. So why did you bring it up?
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Will Banning Cryptography Keep the Country Safe? - lanecwagner https://qvault.io/2020/02/05/will-banning-cryptography-keep-the-country-safe/ ====== bediger4000 Article does not answer the question posed by its headline, but it is a short, yet good discussion of moral panics, and legislation driven by moral panics.
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Remote freelance jobs - kaizensoze https://github.com/kaizensoze/remote-freelance-jobs ====== kaizensoze If you know of any additional remote friendly dev shops or sites with direct clients, feel free to submit a pull request!
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Searching for Dark Matter with Cloudant, part 3 - mbroberg https://cloudant.com/blog/searching-for-dark-matter-with-cloudant-part3/ ====== vonnik75 So, have you found dark matter yet? :) what's up with that? ~~~ gadamc Ha! That would be a much bigger headline. Well, in a sense, its already been detected, but just not directly detected in a lab, produced by the LHC, or observed via any self-annihilation process. We know something it exists through cosmological observations - so in that sense its been found. ~~~ gadamc .. having said that, there are a few experiments that have data which some have claimed or interpreted as direct evidence for dark matter. but the community is far from agreement on that. in fact, most people are skeptical.
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HyperRogue 11.2: Thurston Geometries - mathgenius https://zenorogue.blogspot.com/2019/09/hyperrogue-112-thurston-geometries-free.html ====== db48x Hyperrogue continues to surprise me. The price ought to be going up over time, but it never seems to. ~~~ zenorogue It does. The first version on Steam was $0.99 (it was a tiny game too). Then I think it was $2.99 for some time, then $4.99. The price on itch.io stays at $2.99 because their system does not allow us to increase the price without taking the updates away to those who have already paid the lower price. Probably the price will increase when 3D modes become less experimental. ~~~ db48x Always a minuscule price for an amazing game.
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Show HN: Lyrics generator for over 40 artist styles - mrkarezina https://www.freshbots.org/lyrcis-generator ====== mrkarezina I made this web app for generating lyrics in the styles of over 40 artists. Why? I had two goals with this project: 1\. I was curious to see if the model will be able to generate entertaining lyrics. Pretty lighthearted but still kinda fun. There are quite a few artist styles to try. 2\. Make a material ui web app to play around with the lyrics generator. Each artist has a Markov model trained on lyrics from Lyrics Beast. You can also specify the target number of syllables. Somethings i’d like to try in the future: Mix artist styles by combining models. It’s a lighthearted project, but I would still love to hear what you thought of it ------ byoung2 Some of the lyrics are real gems, like this Drake verse: And you know wassup Like how to blast up, Whatever you wanna go Peace sign in the underground though
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Ask HN: What is the best way to handle student loans as an entrepreneur? - the_watcher I dropped out of law school after year after hating it. It left me with roughly $40K in loans. My monthly payment is manageable with my current income, and I could reduce it by changing my repayment plan to one of the lower monthly payment options, but I doubt I could get it below $200/month. I'd really like to join a startup in its early stages, potentially one that only pays me in equity and my absolute necessity bills (housing, food) to begin with (I have one in mind that is promising). Has anyone on here started a company with student loans and not had the income to repay them? Is starting a company "unemployed" for the purposes of loans, since I won't have an income? ====== the_watcher I'm not wild about my current job, and I'd like to do something more rewarding. I've also considered places like App Academy. ------ kayhi I'd put the student loan in the 'absolute necessity bills' and pay it back. ~~~ the_watcher I didn't propose not paying it back. I asked what my options would be for deferring it so that I can pursue other options beyond my current job.
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New gene found: helps prevent heart attack, stroke; may block effects of aging - evo_9 https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/05/160517094208.htm ====== cjbprime Please (everyone) stop posting scientific press releases regarding a single study. They are always massively suspect. If this work is correct then there will soon be replications and meta-studies and we can talk about it then. The assumption for an unverified single study, especially one using phrases like "scientific dogma", should be that it is probably incorrect.
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Your phone number is becoming the online identifier of choice - lgomezma http://blog.messagebird.com/2015/12/your-phone-number-is-becoming-the-online-identifier-of-choice/ ====== henningpeters > Hacking someone’s phone number is almost impossible to do, as someone would > need to steal the physical SIM card or clone it at least. An almost > impossible venture for the majority of fraudsters. Wiretapping/redirecting SMS is actually surprisingly easy and doesn't require stealing/cloning SIM cards. Not sure how it compares to wiretapping unencrypted IP networks, but based on a demo I saw today I would guess it's easier. ~~~ lgomezma Any link with more info to that demo? It sounds interesting. ~~~ henningpeters Demo was in RL, hence no link. Search for SS7/MSC attacks for more info. ~~~ lgomezma Thanks, I will take a look, it seems quite interesting...
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HN Discusses: Lets talk about replacing HTTP in the browser. - bradhe HTTP has been a solid workhorse for, what, 20 years? It can pretty much be considered ubiquitous -- any platform worth its salt has a robust HTTP client. HTTP is reasonably light weight and extensible and is generally well understood.<p>But is it still appropriate for "modern" uses? As web apps become more and more interactive, larger, and have different constraints on connectivity is there a better alternative to base our stack on?<p>We have a few interesting solutions to those problems that have been built on top of HTTP. Comet, for instance, overcomes the interactivity bit and web sockets could be cool if it ever get full support but those both seem like hack-y solutions -- solutions that required a lot of energy that likely could have been mitigated if we used a different protocol in the first place.<p>Lets just consider, for the purposes of this discussion, what the ideal technology would be. We don't necessarily need to talk about adoption or deployment or feasibility -- obviously its pretty damn infeasible to ACTUALLY replace HTTP thanks to its ubiquity -- but just ideally, what would you like to see?<p>Anyone know if any feasibility studies or scoping of a technology has been done on this topic? ====== yanw The SPDY protocol is a potential replacement: <http://www.chromium.org/spdy/> ~~~ bradhe Yeah, that is kind of what sparked this thought in my mind...there are a couple of things that are good here. Multiple files per request is a pretty cool idea and server-initiated requests could solve a lot of problems. One thing that immediately comes to mind as a bummer about SPDY, though: Lack of native full-duplex duplex communication.
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Create website in easy way using simple Drag and Drop tools - amritsinghlotay http://www.codelator.com/blog/2014/aug/webflow-create-website-in-easy-way-using-simple-drag-and-drop-tools.html ====== amritsinghlotay Webflow is one of the best website builder tool available on the internet. It uses simple drag and drop tools for creating custom, responsive and professional looking websites. If you are not a web designer and you don't want to write thousand lines of code then WEBFLOW is the perfect tool for you. Webflow provides complete set of tool for creating stunning looking websites. It allows you to create all the necessary elements such as <div>, social widgets, video embedding, maps, buttons, section, container, columns, images, menubar etc. It provides a very clean and beautiful environment which makes it easy to find the desired element you want to add in your webpage. You don't need any skills for building a website using Webflow, but you need some basic understanding of HTML and CSS concepts. Once you will start using Webflow, you will automatically learn all the concepts.
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Verisign Buyout of Thawte Consulting Challenged (2000) - yuhong https://slashdot.org/story/00/01/11/1029235/verisign-buyout-of-thawte-consulting-challenged ====== yuhong I believe Mark later used this to fund Canonical (it was worth $575 million). This is a good example of the debt based economy being flawed, including how it encouraged extracting more money from "consumers" (remember that for example IE did not support anything other than VeriSign, Thawte, and GTE CyberTrust until the then recently released NT4 SP6 and IE 5.01).
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Effective A/B Testing - luu http://elem.com/~btilly/effective-ab-testing/ ====== bgun There may be useful information here but the presentation format is incomprehensible. And do the images on the right bear any relationship to the content? ------ caminante Is there a way to advance by complete slides and not have to click for every intra-slide transition? It took 47 clicks to get to slide 11 and the deck has 115 slides. ~~~ byamit [http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/features.html#controlchart](http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/features.html#controlchart) A couple useful shortcuts there depending on what you're trying to do. ~~~ caminante I saw that. Typing '1'+<RIGHT ARROW> advances slides, but doesn't load the full slide. Bad presentation design. ------ Matumio There seems to be a lot of experience behind this presentation. But I wonder, how does all this G-testing compare to Thompson sampling? (Which was not mentioned at all in the presentation.) For example, is there any drawback with adapting the A/B probabilities on-the-fly, instead of having a hard decision point?
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Reverse Engineering the MOS 6502 CPU - wglb http://www.pagetable.com/?p=512 ====== Luc Well, this is going to be an awesome talk (on the 28th in Berlin), but other than the title and a pretty picture, there's nothing in the link... ~~~ alanthonyc Click the picture and you get this: [http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/Fahrplan/events/4159.en.h...](http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/Fahrplan/events/4159.en.html) ~~~ ygd But that's it. I hope they post the slides/video/text to the talk once it's done.
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NASA wants your help with a simulated lunar mission - novas0x2a http://ti.arc.nasa.gov/desertrats/vote ====== novas0x2a More information about the Desert RATS project: <http://www.nasa.gov/exploration/analogs/desert_rats.html>
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T. Rex Might Be the Thing with Feathers - dnetesn http://nautil.us/issue/101/in-our-nature/t-rex-might-be-the-thing-with-feathers-rp ====== themartorana I feel silly even writing this... but I wanted more pictures. I know the imagination is a powerful thing, but an artist's rendering based on a scientist's description helps me a lot. What can I say. I like picture-books :) ------ mhurron Obligatory xkcd [https://xkcd.com/1104/](https://xkcd.com/1104/) This leads me every time our budgies or finches or the birds outside do something odd or silly, I nudge the wife, point at them and say "Dinosaurs." ------ ArkyBeagle Evolution sort of makes the whole idea of extinction and "survival" blindingly complex. The simple idea that "birds==dinosaurs (maybe)" led to us having pet birds for a while ( through the influence of our youngest ), which was very rewarding. With smarter birds, there's more of a sense of a cognitive "there" there than most animals. Almost what you get with dogs - although dogs have been ...engineered so heavily as our "familiars" that this takes some of the fun out of it.
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Show HN: Coronamaison - vvoyer https://coronamaison.now.sh/ ====== vvoyer Hey HN! Here's my second covid19 related project: #coronamaison I got really impressed by all the art drawings of the #coronamaison project where, starting with a blank template, you then draw your ideal #staythefuckhome place. It all started with a tweet from Pénélope Bagieu ([https://twitter.com/PenelopeB/status/1239186251833630720](https://twitter.com/PenelopeB/status/1239186251833630720)), a French artist, and then a lot of artists started to send their own drawing on both Twitter and Instagram. Very soon I wanted to create a website to organize all those magnificent drawings. Because I felt otherwise they would be lost in the social media noise. This is what I have done this week and the result is here. Enjoy browsing them all and let me know what you think! ------ ChrisArchitect pretty amazing! so many, and lovely mix of drawings
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What is the next big thing after 'Big Data'; 'Big Sensor web Era' - abdullahisham http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensor_web ====== abdullahisham The idea is that sensors will transmit data at the speed of light (taking into account delay on networks). If an earthquake was to have its epicenter 20 miles away, you could know about it 10 seconds before you felt the ground shake. [http://www.bigdata-startups.com/the-great-sensor-era- brontob...](http://www.bigdata-startups.com/the-great-sensor-era-brontobytes- will-change-society/)
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The Dilemma of Anti-Semitic Speech Online - Pharmakon https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/10/internet-you-can-scream-fire-all-you-want-unless-something-burns/574243/?single_page=true ====== xkcd-sucks Apparently China's figured this one out
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The Largest Number of Scientists in Modern U.S. Is Running for Office in 2018 - ericdanielski http://www.huffingtonpost.com.mx/entry/science-candidates_us_5a74fffde4b06ee97af2ae60 ====== nonbel Be careful, there are lots of people passing themselves off as scientists who aren't these days. It is all over the place. From medical research where they call people who try to check the data analysis "parasites"[1], to psychology where they call people who do replications "bullies"[2], to physics where they want to get rid of the need for evidence altogether[3]. [1] [http://researchparasite.com/](http://researchparasite.com/) [2] [http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/201...](http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2014/07/replication_controversy_in_psychology_bullying_file_drawer_effect_blog_posts.html) [3] [https://www.quantamagazine.org/physicists-and- philosophers-d...](https://www.quantamagazine.org/physicists-and-philosophers- debate-the-boundaries-of-science-20151216/) ~~~ jtmarmon That parasite website is so weird. It sounds so negative, like a piece of satire, but then you read the actual text and it sounds like a serious award whose goal is to encourage rigor in scientific research. Whose stupid idea was it to call it the Parasite Award ~~~ tw1010 Maybe natural scientists are more accustomed to using the strict, cold, definitions of biological concepts without being emotionally influenced by any cultural value judgement attached to them. ~~~ Avshalom Good thing we live in a strict cold culture-less world then. ~~~ tw1010 I think it's too much to ask to expect every little scientific niche, every subculture, to have to adapt their local personalized context-aware terminology to the global culture, just because a random person coming from outside the niche might be confused by their language. It's like demanding that no part of a public speech should be able to shine a poor light on the speaker when a substring of it is taken out of context. It's an unnecessarily harsh constraint. ------ mc32 Many current congress members are lawyers and physicians. I welcome additional people with backgrounds demanding rigor. For example, in SF we have policies to help the homeless, but often fail to live up to their expectations. Politicians push through feel good measures that aren't based on rigorous studies. Npr will often cite some idea based on a small study somewhere which hasn't been replicated elsewhere. Maybe technologists will require more rigor than we now do. ~~~ Quanttek Why would technologists do that? Especially in those circles there's an incredible belief in easy solutions (i.e. technological solutions). For your homeless problem sociologists and anthropologists would probably be most appropriate ------ mobilefriendly This is nasty business, the turning of "science" into a partisan wedge issue. After all, no need to debate if you can just call someone "anti-science". There's no significant difference in the number of STEM candidates this cycle, this is fake news stuff generated by a left-of-center advocacy group and HuffPo. ~~~ sergiotapia "Settled science" has become a curse word to me. "Science" used to be a method, now it's a belief system in the first world. It's disgusting. ~~~ merpnderp It used to be fun sport on Facebook to kid those who followed "I fucking love science" for not having the first clue about science. But as science became more and more a partisan word, it just became sad - the birth of a new religion who's adherents didn't even care to learn their new dogma. ------ merpnderp A lot of atrocities of the 20th century were purposefully committed in the name of science and progress, claiming over a hundred million lives. I much prefer candidates who care more about ethics the rights of individuals over those who's primary concern is the scientific method. [EDIT] As a modern example, John Holdren wrote in a 1977 book, Ecoscience, that forced abortions and mass sterilizations were required to save the planet. Being a good enough scientist to become appointed president Obama's scientific advisor, doesn't mean you can't easily rationalize atrocities on a wide scale. ------ rhino369 Jimmy Carter and Herbert Hoover were the two engineer POTUS's. Take from that what you may. ~~~ moonka Wasn't Carter a submariner followed by peanut farming? ~~~ rhino369 Nuclear submariner. ~~~ Turing_Machine As one of his duties, he personally entered a melted-down experimental reactor as part of the team that disassembled the damaged core. ------ rsuelzer I worked on the special election campaign for Bill Foster (D-Il). Seeing him win was one of the most memorable moments of the last decade for me. ------ badcede "The fact is that a mere training in one or more of the exact sciences, even combined with very high gifts, is no guarantee of a humane or sceptical outlook." [http://orwell.ru/library/articles/science/english/e_scien](http://orwell.ru/library/articles/science/english/e_scien) ------ heisenbit Here in Germany we literally have a nuclear scientist running the government and frankly politics have become a bit boring. Now that may be a good in a way but vision is not really her thing. ~~~ im_down_w_otp Doesn't that allow you to treat your government as infrastructure and your culture as your source of vision though? Granted I don't live there, but that sounds appealing to me. A boring, efficient, and well-run government would be like giving your society a great COO. Which then opens up the possibility for the people of the society to be their own visionary CEO. ------ starpilot Is this a good thing? Governing is at its essence people management, and the best scientists don't always make the best managers. They may not be persuasive enough to rally others to their cause, or see the importance in doing so, or understand the give-and-take of politics, just the crusade for "truth." A scientist may be better and smarter, but impotent and walked over if he can't actually do politics with other messy humans. > I am obliged to confess I should sooner live in a society governed by the > first two thousand names in the Boston telephone directory than in a society > governed by the two thousand faculty members of Harvard University. ~~~ throwaway7645 My company has two engineering departments. 1 that has a very traditional management chain (non-technical) that is very bureaucratic with lots of meetings. The other promotes only the best technical engineers with ~10 years of experience and people skills. The latter typically performs far better finishing all projects on time and under budget. My boss's boss knows every table in our database, how each interface to our various apps works...etc. All our management in that department can speak on the same level as our vendors and drive key design and architecture decisions and the next day be talking to shareholders in the political realm. When someone asks them a question they can give an answer down to the lowest level of granularity if need be. So my experience based theory of management is to take high performing domain experts with people skills and put them in management in lieu of typical Harvard MBA types. Then pay for them to take some finance classes to round off that skill set if needed. ~~~ nightski In this case the domain is politics not science. If anything your argument is in agreement with the parent. ~~~ throwaway7645 I know what you're saying, but I don't think you're catching my meaning. I believe good leadership involves specific skill sets applied to a particular area and that very few people can truly serve in the generalist role that the MBA & politicians try to sell you. ------ adamsvystun Define scientists... ------ stryk No doubt we need to get rid of the climate change/global warming/call-it-what- u-want deniers, and the outright false information being disseminated without batting an eyelash is pure insanity, but I still have to wonder if folks who have spent their lives in academia are compatible with government? It is possible to swing the needle too far in the opposite direction and end up with just as many problems. ~~~ jessriedel Ha! The overwhelming majority of congressmen and senators are lawyers or businessmen. The number of scientists, between both chambers, is in the low single digits. [https://www.everycrsreport.com/reports/R44762.html#_Toc49835...](https://www.everycrsreport.com/reports/R44762.html#_Toc498356618) [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the- fix/wp/2013/01/17/an...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the- fix/wp/2013/01/17/an-awesome-diagram-of-the-113th- congress/?utm_term=.9328c871a4d8) I don't think we're remotely close to "swinging the needle too far in the opposite direction"... ~~~ stryk All I'm saying is, academia and government are 2 different ballgames -- I'm sure there are lots of similarities, but the stakes are on 2 vastly different levels. I'm not saying having scientists in the government would be bad, to the contrary -- right now that's what we _need_. But replace all the lawyers and businessmen in government right now with professors and administrators from academia and we would still have lots of issues. ~~~ heurist I doubt the bureaucracies of academia and government are all that different at their cores. ------ legionof7 This could go really well or really badly. Scientists are good for making good scientific decisions, but they might (probably?) not be the best at managing a country. I think the best thing would be more people with political experience to run with the position of having lots of scientists as advisors. ~~~ fermienrico This is such a cliche criticism of scientists running for public office and frankly I’m tired of it as it detracts from the fundamental truth. There is no reason why scientists cannot run for public office. Reason, logic and strategic thinking is what we need - doesn’t matter if it’s a scientist, engineer or an accountant. Compared to the shit we have today, this would be a huge step forward. Plenty of scientists have leadership and political skills. It’s not like scientists are just completely incapable of dealing with people - that is the cliche and we need to objectively think about this. ~~~ pavlov I honestly think Mitch McConnell employs a lot of “reason, logic and strategic thinking”. Those things are not enough by themselves — you need to have something to build towards besides short-term partisan points. Gerrymandering is another example of the abundance of misguided cleverness in the American system. ~~~ fermienrico All I am saying is that "Reason, Logic and Strategic thinking" is minimum that a scientist offers. There are so many scientists and engineers that lead multi-billion dollar corporations. They have, in addition to reason , logic and strategic thinking - organizational, political and people skills. My point is that just having a scientific background should in no way be a limiting factor. In fact, it should be a positive thing. ------ gaius Wasn’t this an episode of The Simpsons? ------ RickJWag Highly politicized article. If it were balanced, there should be some mention of medical scientists who have concerns for humans in development. Science has made tremendous progress in this area, but they are not covered in the media often. ------ microcolonel > _President Donald Trump has yet to name a science adviser, leading some to > declare that Fox News is filling the position._ This is petty drivel, from the pointless and nonsensical jabs, to the bizarre assumption that PhDs make better politicians. ~~~ tsomctl I don't think it's bizarre to assume that a PhD is best to be a science adviser. ~~~ LeifCarrotson Only in the sense that PhDs are often extremely specialized. They are experts in one field, not general-purpose "science" experts. It may not be immediately clear why someone with the most advanced knowledge in the world on an esoteric organism in Indonesia would be a good advisor to the President. A PhD functioning as an advisor does have valuable experience that would help them understand how some desired research needs to get done, or discern whether a particular study is quality or junk, or be able to communicate effectively in an environment full of technical jargon. Indeed, those are the characteristics that are really needed - but those are merely qualities that are hopefully picked up on the way to a PhD, not the research project which the PhD certifies. ~~~ soVeryTired A PhD alone wouldn't necessarily make a good scientific advisor, but someone who came from a high-level position in a university might. Beyond a certain level, scientists become managers rather than practitioners. The successful ones have insight into the process of raising funds, the politics of large-scale research facilities, and sometimes the process of major international collaboration. Discerning whether a given study is junk probably doesn't fall under the remit of Science Advisor. That's more of a tactical issue that would be delegated to a specialist policy wonk. ------ SapphireSun Scientists are running because they feel their class interests are being threatened. Typically, scientists are apolitical because they feel they get more benefits by maintaining the status quo (e.g. military and civil funding). In the face of a bald attack on the EPA and climate science, scientists are attempting to show class solidarity. Unfortunately, many of the problems we have are not technical problems, but are clashes between left and right. The favored positions of both sides have long been established. Science will help implement an ideological solution, but will not replace ideology. To the extent that the scientists running are leftists compared with centrist democrats, this will be somewhat significant. However, I suspect that many established scientists are ignorant of politics and see the current struggle as some kind of surface level fact vs fiction debate. They will be disappointed.
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Performance comparison of CUDA and OpenCL on Nvidia FERMI Tesla C2050 - dgibsontx http://blog.accelereyes.com/blog/2010/05/10/nvidia-fermi-cuda-and-opencl/ ====== anateus That's quite promising as far as OpenCL is concerned. I've seen a lot of scientific packages that run on CUDA, but not many that use OpenCL, but I've been averse to the vendor lock in. Despite the overheads at small dataset sizes, this seems to make OpenCL not just a viable alternative, but a preferable one for general applications. ------ liuliu Do they have a comparison of OpenCL performance on AMD 5970 HD with Nvidia GTX 480? The two graphic cards seem more commercial viable for me. ~~~ mzl I think the article was meant to compare software libraries for GPGPU programming, not the performance of different hardware platforms.
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How the NASCAR-like experience of new PCs hurts customer confidence - terrellm http://www.keepingitrural.com/nascar-pc-experience-hurts-customer-confidence ====== noonespecial All those decals are there on your windows pc for the same reason they are there on the racing cars. To subsidize the cost of the machine. You got your windows computer for $500. How much was your mac? If I ever become obscenely wealthy, I'm going to buy a NASCAR team 100% myself. My car will be all white and on the hood, in large friendly black letters (Helvetica no doubt), it will say _"Racecar"_. That ought to drive those red-staters nuts. ~~~ trafficlight That would be awesome. ------ jrockway I like all that crap. It makes me feel smug as I scratch off the logos, remove the decals, and erase the stock OS. If it was just a blank machine with nothing on it, I wouldn't get that feeling. I do feel sorry for someone that thinks the default install on their laptop is suitable for actual use, however. Sometimes these techie jokes go a little too far... ------ gamble The problem with PCs is not the existence of cheapo systems like this, but the absence of machines that compete with the Mac for industrial design and user experience. It doesn't seem to be possible to buy a PC that isn't butt-ugly and comes loaded with crapware, regardless of how much you're willing to pay. My theory is that when Apple builds a computer, they know they're going to sell millions of a particular model, so it's worth spending the time to build it properly. PC makers have higher volume, but it's spread across thirty models with a dozen variants each, updated yearly, so they can't waste time making any of them particularly good. ~~~ terrellm I wonder how a Mac-like PC (no trialware, no excessive stickers, minimal blinking lights, etc) would sell. The kind of people who appreciate that and are willing to pay a premium buy Macs. The kind of people who don't or can't appreciate that save their money and go with a PC. It's almost a cultural issue. I agree that when Apple can use a specific model design for years, simply changing out the internal components for several revisions, they can put more money into a solid design.
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Build a Compact Cryptocurrency System Purely Based on PoS - YAYERKA http://eprint.iacr.org/2014/330 ====== josephagoss The paper should be titled "POS Cryptocurrency with no blockchain" as that is the most innovative idea they are talking about. There already exist pure POS coins, Nxt through a concept called transparent forging may be capable of resisting anything up to a 90% attack. I'll have a read of this properly when I get home. ~~~ darkFunction The Nxt sourcecode is really terribly written, which is a shame. ~~~ Sambdala The developer was also very secretive about how it worked as he was scared someone would copy it and release a clone. It was impossible for the longest time (when the price was actually much higher than it is now) to find out how the thing actually worked. Much of this was because there was no white paper or documentation, and when pressed for details beyond the most basic, the developer just told you to read the source code once he open-sourced it. ------ jeangabriel Unconvincing. The proof of convergence is also not correct. The inequality at the top of p.7 (ever heard of equation numering...?) should be reversed, which effectively establishes that convergence probability is smaller or equal to 1. ------ jsmcgd I think most cryptocurrencies will begin to shed their blockchains. They're beginning to get unweildly, especially for Bitcoin (17GB). There's no need to retain a list of all transactions. You only need a consistent set of balances. Also the energy cost of mining is beginning to become a legitimate environmental concern. I think the new slew of proof of stake currencies are going to give the proof of work currencies a run for their money (pardon the pun). ~~~ kolinko Shedding effectivity depends on the amount of unspent outputs. E.g. If there are 1.5M transactions, and 1.2M addresses still containing money, replacing transactions with account ballances won't give you much. As for the environmental concern - read up about the tragedy of commons. Few people will abandon a better protocol into a worse one if the only benefit is ecological. ------ Hopka PoS = Proof of Stake [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof-of- stake](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof-of-stake) ------ higherpurpose Aren't all PoS systems a "rich get richer" system? ~~~ DennisP "Rich get richer" would be if people with larger shares of the total money supply tended to increase their share. But with Peercoin, for example, everybody earns annual interest of 1% of their holdings, paid in new coin. Let's say instead we have DennisCoin which pays a whopping 100% and is worth $1 per coin. If you start with 10 coins and I start with 90 coins, then after a year you'll have 20 coins and I'll have 180. I still have nine times as much as you. Since the number of coins has doubled, the currency value drops in half. So in dollar terms, you still have $10 and I still have $90. ------ im3w1l They suggest an exponentially declining price during the distribution year. Unless I am missing something this will lead to everyone buying on the very last day when the price is the lowest. Why would you want to create those incentives? ~~~ kolinko I think they say that the distribution should stop at a random, unknown and decided in advance moment within a year. So nobody knows when is the very last day. Btw. The moment can be determined in a secure way (think satoshi-dice style) ~~~ im3w1l Ok, so it is basically a complicated and slow way of holding an auction with secret bids?
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Understanding Memory Usage in Docker Desktop on Mac - pooya72 https://docs.google.com/document/d/17ZiQC1Tp9iH320K-uqVLyiJmk4DHJ3c4zgQetJiKYQM/edit ====== chmaynard > Activity Monitor in MacOS Mojave has a double-counting bug, causing it to > report double the actual memory allocated. Ouch. Assuming this bug was introduced in Mojave, a basic regression test would have caught it.
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