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Subject: Re: Shaft-drives and Wheelies From: [email protected] (John Stafford) Distribution: rec Organization: Winona State University Nntp-Posting-Host: stafford.winona.msus.edu Lines: 9 >>>>> On 19 Apr 93 21:48:42 GMT, [email protected] said: > Is it possible to do a "wheelie" on a motorcycle with shaft-drive? Yes, but the _rear_ wheel comes off the ground, not the front. See, it just HOPS into the air! Figure. ==================================================== John Stafford Minnesota State University @ Winona All standard disclaimers apply.

From: [email protected] (Ed McClanahan) Subject: Re: 1280x1024 on ATI Ultra w/ Nanao 550i Nntp-Posting-Host: chaos Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc. Lines: 22 [email protected] (Keith Mancus) writes: > <reference to running ATI's Install Program and using > its functions to position/size images at various > resolutions> I thought this was a neat feature until I noticed that when an image is re-sized, the scanning frequency is necessarily changed. This causes digital multiscan monitors like my MAG MX17F to get confused as to which mode to use if the frequency gets too far from the standard selections. For this reason, I use the "factory defaults" for position/size on the ATI card and adjust each mode individually (only the first time) at the monitor. The MAG (and many other multiscan monitors) has (have) the ability to recall these settings the next time each mode is "detected". -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Edward McClanahan [email protected]

From: [email protected] (Scott Henry) Subject: Re: xlock Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc, Mountain View, CA Lines: 21 In-Reply-To: [email protected]'s message of 20 Apr 93 01:15:13 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: oniboshi.corp.sgi.com >>>>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Dale M. Slone) writes: dale> I found an oddity with our SGI Indigo (MIPS R3000 chip). dale> When xlock +nolock is running, and I am working remotely dale> or in batch (at) mode, the runtime of my programs (as timed dale> by using clock() in the code itself) is ~25% slower than if dale> xlock is NOT running. No other processes seem to affect my dale> runtimes, yet this is very consistent! Unless you run `xlock -mode blank`, xlock consumes CPU time generating the nice animated display. The code you are running is competing with xlock for the CPU. If you run top (via a remote login), you can really see what is going on. =-=-= -- Scott Henry <[email protected]> / Help! My disclaimer is missing! Networking Services, / GIGO *really* means: Garbage in, Gospel Out Silicon Graphics, Inc /

From: [email protected] (Seth Wandersman) Subject: univesa driver Reply-To: [email protected] (Seth Wandersman) Lines: 7 Nntp-Posting-Host: north13.acpub.duke.edu I got the univesa driver available over the net. I thought that finally my 1-meg oak board would be able to show 680x1024 256 colors. Unfortunately a program still says that I can't do this. Is it the fault of the program (fractint) or is there something wrong with my card. univesa- a free driver available over the net that makes many boards vesa compatible.

From: [email protected] (Dale Erickson) Subject: Telix Problem Article-I.D.: ns1.C5uMr8.Gyp Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network Lines: 9 Nntp-Posting-Host: plains.nodak.edu When I use telix (or kermit) in WIN 3.1, or use telix after exiting windows to dos, telix can not find the serial port. If you have some ideas on how to solve this problem or where I can find further information, send me email or send it to the news group. Thanks. Dale Erickson [email protected] -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

From: [email protected] (Svante Forsblom) Subject: Re: Suhonen will NOT go to Jokerit Keywords: Suhonen Nntp-Posting-Host: vipunen.hut.fi Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland Lines: 17 >In <[email protected]> [email protected] (Tommi Vartiainen) writes: >>According to the inside information, Alpo Suhonen won't be the next headcoach >>of Jokerit. It's pretty sure that Boris Majorov will continue, although owner >>of the team previously said that he will chance the coach. >>Tommi >Wrong information. They just announced that Suhonen has made a deal with >Jokerit. > >Tommi And Boris Majorov has made a 1+1 year deal with Tappara. Svante

From: [email protected] (Marc VanHeyningen) Subject: RIPEM Frequently Asked Questions Article-I.D.: usenet.C4qoA0.CA6 Expires: Thu, 20 May 1993 00:00:00 GMT Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University Lines: 360 Content-Type: text/x-usenet-FAQ; version=1.0; title="RIPEM FAQ" Originator: [email protected] Nntp-Posting-Host: silver.ucs.indiana.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Archive-name: ripem/faq Last-update: 31 Mar 93 22:00:00 -0500 ABOUT THIS POSTING ------------------ This is a listing of likely questions and information about RIPEM, a program for public key mail encryption. It (this FAQ, not RIPEM) was written and will be maintained by Marc VanHeyningen <[email protected]>. It will be posted to a variety of newsgroups on a monthly basis; follow-up discussion specific to RIPEM is redirected to the group alt.security.ripem. WHAT'S NEW ---------- I am now running a World Wide Web archive of RIPEM information. It does not contain much of anything that isn't available elsewhere, but it has convenient pointers to the most current version of this FAQ and some other stuff. The URL is "http://cs.indiana.edu/ripem/dir.html". This month's version has a fair amount of new pointers to information on patents and stuff like that. I've also reordered a few things to have a more sensible ordering. I hope I don't have to edit this again soon. :-) DISCLAIMER ---------- Nothing in this FAQ should be considered legal advice, or anything other than one layperson's opinion. If you want real legal advice, talk to a real lawyer, preferably one with experience in patent law, export regulations, or whatever area of law is in question. LIST OF QUESTIONS ----------------- 1) What is RIPEM? 2) How can I get RIPEM? 3) Will RIPEM run on my machine? 4) Will RIPEM work with my mailer? 5) What is RSA? 6) What is DES? 7) What is a fingerprint, like MD5? 8) What is PEM? 9) What's this about distributing and authenticating keys? 10) Isn't it a bad idea to use patented algorithms in standards like PEM? 11) What about RSADSI/PKP? 12) Why do all RIPEM public keys look very similar? 13) What is PGP? 14) What about RPEM? 15) What is MIME? 16) What is TIS/PEM? 17) I have this simple way to defeat the security of RIPEM... QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS --------------------- 1) What is RIPEM? RIPEM is a (not yet complete, but useful) implementation of Privacy Enhanced Mail (PEM). RIPEM allows your electronic mail to have the four security facilities provided by PEM: disclosure protection (optional), originator authenticity, message integrity measures, and non-repudiation of origin (always). (See: "What is PEM?") RIPEM was written primarily by Mark Riordan <[email protected]>. Most of the code is in the public domain, except for the RSA routines, which are a library called RSAREF licensed from RSA Data Security Inc. The current version of RIPEM is 1.0.5; the current version of the Macintosh port of RIPEM is 0.7. 2) How can I get RIPEM? RIPEM uses the library of cryptographic routines RSAREF, which is considered munitions and thus is export-restricted from distribution to persons who are not citizens or permanent residents in the U.S or Canada without an export license. No such license has been obtained (nor would one likely be granted unless the RSA key exchange were shortened to 512 bits and the symmetric cipher changed to something weaker than DES. There are some suggestions that this situation may change now that Clinton is in office.) The author requests in the README file that this law not be violated: #Please do not export the cryptographic code in this distribution #outside of the USA or Canada. This is a personal request from me, #the author of RIPEM, and a condition of your use of RIPEM. Note that RSAREF is not in the public domain, and a license for it is included with the distribution. You should read it before using RIPEM. RIPEM is available via anonymous FTP to citizens and permanent residents in the U.S. from rsa.com; cd to rsaref/ and read the README file for info. Note that the non-RSAREF portion of RIPEM is not a product of RSA Data Security, Incorporated; they merely are helping distribute it. RIPEM, as well as some other crypt stuff, has its "home site" on ripem.msu.edu, which is open to non-anonymous FTP for users in the U.S. and Canada who are citizens or permanent residents. To find out how to obtain access, FTP there, cd to pub/crypt/, and read the file GETTING_ACCESS. For convenience, binaries for many architectures are available here in addition to the full source tree. 3) Will RIPEM run on my machine? Probably. It has already been ported to MS-DOS and most flavors of Unix (SunOS, NeXT, Linux, AIX, ULTRIX, Solaris, etc.) Ports to Macintosh include a standard UNIX-style port and a rather nice Mac-like port written by Raymond Lau, author of StuffIt. More ports are expected, and help of users is invited. 4) Will RIPEM work with my mailer? Probably. How easy and clean the effective interface is will depend on the sophistication and modularity of the mailer, though. The users guide, included with the distribution, discusses ways to use RIPEM with many popular mailers, including Berkeley, mush, Elm, and MH. Code is also included in elisp to allow easy use of RIPEM inside GNU Emacs. If you make a new interface for RIPEM or create an improvement on one in the distribution which you believe is convenient to use, secure, and may be useful to others, feel free to post it to alt.security.ripem. 5) What is RSA? RSA is a crypto system which is asymmetric, or public-key. This means that there are two different, related keys: one to encrypt and one to decrypt. Because one cannot (reasonably) be derived from the other, you may publish your encryption, or public, key widely and keep your decryption, or private, key to yourself. Anyone can use your public key to encrypt a message, but only you hold the private key needed to decrypt it. Note that the "message" sent with RSA is normally just the DES key to the real plaintext. (See "What is DES?") Note that the above only provides for disclosure protection. For originator authenticity, message integrity, and non-repudiation of origin services to be implemented, the fingerprint of the message (See "What is a fingerprint, like MD5?") is encrypted with the sender's private key. The recipient, or a dispute-resolving authority, can use the sender's public key to decrypt it and confirm that the message must have come from the sender and was not altered. RSA was named for the three men (Rivest, Shamir and Adleman) who invented it. To find out lots more about RSA and modern cryptography in general, ftp to rsa.com and look in pub/faq/. Some information also may be in sci.crypt. 6) What is DES? DES is the Data Encryption Standard, a widely used symmetric, or secret-key, crypto system. Unlike RSA, DES uses the same key to encrypt and decrypt messages. However, DES is much faster than RSA. RIPEM uses both DES and RSA; it generates a random key and encrypts your mail with DES using that key. It then encrypts that key with the recipient's public RSA key and includes the result in the letter, allowing the recipient to recover the DES key. DES is sometimes considered weak because it is somewhat old and uses a key length considered too short by modern standards. However, it should be reasonably safe against an opponent smaller than a large corporation or government agency. It is not likely that the PEM standard will incorporate support for other symmetric ciphers in the near future, because there is a strong feeling that PEM should be stable so it can become utilized widely without early problems with interoperability. 7) What is a fingerprint, like MD5? MD5 is a message digest algorithm produced by RSA Data Security Inc. It provides a 128-bit fingerprint, or cryptographically secure hash, of the plaintext. It is cryptographically secure because it is not possible (in a reasonable amount of computation) to produce a different plaintext which produces the same fingerprint. Thus, instead of signing the entire message with the sender's private key, only the MD5 of the message needs to be signed for authentication. MD5s can also be exchanged directly for authentication; for example, RIPEM public keys include an MD5 of the public key in the file, so parties wishing to confirm their keys are authentic via a separate channel merely need exchange MD5s of keys and verify their accuracy. MD5 is sometimes used for other purposes; for example, it is often used to map an input of arbitrary length to 128 bits of data, as a passphrase interpreter or cookie generator. MD5 is described in its entirety (including an implementation in C) in RFC 1321. There have been some recent suggestions that MD5 may not be as strong a hash as was originally believed; presumably some other hash function will be used if this is accepted as true. 8) What is PEM? PEM is Privacy Enhanced Mail, a standard for allowing transfer of encrypted electronic mail generated over a long period of time by a working group of experts. It is described in RFCs 1421-1424; these documents have been approved and obsolete the old RFCs 1113-1115. RIPEM is not really a complete implementation of PEM, because PEM specifies certificates for authenticating keys, which RIPEM does not handle at this time. Their addition is planned. 9) What's this about distributing and authenticating keys? For a remote user to be able to send secure mail to you, she must know your public key. For you to be able to confirm that the message received came from her, you must know her public key. It is important that this information be accurate; if a "bad guy" convinces her that his key is in fact yours, she will send messages which he can read. RIPEM allows for three methods of key management: a central server, the distributed finger servers, and a flat file. All three are described in the RIPEM users guide which is part of the distribution. None of them provide perfect security. The PEM standard calls for key management by certificates; the addition of this feature to RIPEM is planned, but chicken-egg issues still exist. 10) Isn't it a bad idea to use patented algorithms in standards like PEM? This issue has been considered in the standards process. RFC 1310, the specification for Internet standards, has a discussion (section 6) on what specifications for nondiscriminatory availability must be met for a patented method to be included in a standard. RFC 1421 addresses this issue with regard to the patents covering public-key cryptography. This does not, of course, mean that all questions are settled or that everyone is in agreement. An interesting exchange on the use of patented algorithms in standards with regard to public-key cryptography is in the League for Programming Freedom archive (available via FTP: ftp.uu.net:/doc/lpf) in the files bidzos.letter and bidzos.response. (Amusingly, the LPF files on ftp.uu.net are compressed with a patented algorithm.) 11) What about RSADSI/PKP? RSA Data Security, Inc. (RSADSI) is a California-based company specializing in cryptographic technologies. Public Key Partners is a firm which holds exclusive sub-licensing rights of the following U.S. patents and all of their corresponding foreign patents: Cryptographic Apparatus and Method ("Diffie-Hellman")............................... No. 4,200,770 Public Key Cryptographic Apparatus and Method ("Hellman-Merkle").................... No. 4,218,582 Cryptographic Communications System and Method ("RSA")................................... No. 4,405,829 Exponential Cryptographic Apparatus and Method ("Hellman-Pohlig").................... No. 4,424,414 PKP claims these four patents cover all known methods of public key cryptography. The two businesses are rather closely related (for example, the same person, Jim Bidzos, is president of both of them.) PKP has licensed this technology to a considerable number of companies (IBM, DEC, Motorola, AT&T, Lotus...) for use in their products. PKP has also threatened and filed lawsuits defending their patents. RIPEM was originally created with no connection to RSADSI other than its use of the RSAREF library, and for no reason other than its author's desire to see widespread use of public-key cryptography. However, after the ball started rolling, people at RSADSI got interested. RSADSI decided to carry RIPEM on its FTP site, and some people there started making their own RIPEM keys and contributing code. RIPEM even won the "Best Application Built on RSAREF in 1992" award. 12) Why do all RIPEM public keys look very similar? RIPEM public keys begin with a PKCS (Public-Key Cryptography Standards) identifier describing various characteristics about the key, so the first bunch of characters in your key may be the same as those of lots of other people's keys. This does not mean your keys are similar, but only that they are the same class of key, were generated with the same program, are of the same length, etc. 13) What is PGP? PGP is another cryptographic mail program called Pretty Good Privacy. PGP has been around longer than RIPEM, and works somewhat differently. PGP is not compatible with RIPEM in any way, though PGP does also use RSA. A few major differences between PGP and RIPEM: - PGP has more key management features, particularly for users without a direct network connection. - RIPEM conforms to the PEM RFCs and thus has a greater probability of working with other PEM software. PGP makes no attempt to be compatible with anything other than itself. - RIPEM uses RSAREF, a library of RSA routines from RSADSI which comes with a license allowing noncommercial use. PGP uses its own implementation of RSA. PKP claims that it is a violation of its patents to "make, use or sell" PGP in the U.S. or Canada without either a license or written permission. (See: "DISCLAIMER") (See: "What about RSADSI/PKP?") Phil Zimmermann, the author of PGP, stopped distributing it after being threatened with legal action; he believed that a licensing scheme could be arranged, but it hasn't happened and there seems little prospect of it happening in the future. He acknowledges in the PGP User's Guide: #In fact, if you live in the USA, and you are not a Federal agency, #you shouldn't actually run PGP on your computer, because Public #Key Partners wants to forbid you from running my software. PGP is #contraband. - Both PGP and RIPEM are export-restricted, and cannot be sent outside the U.S. and Canada without an export license. However, PGP already exists on many ftp sites in Europe and other places. Whether you use PGP or RIPEM or whatever, the documentation to PGP is recommended reading to anyone interested in such issues. Unfortunately, it's not distributed separately from the program, which can be difficult to find in the U.S. on FTP sites due to liability concerns. 14) What about RPEM? RPEM stands for Rabin Privacy Enhanced Mail. It was similar to RIPEM, but used a public-key cipher invented by Rabin (which is not RSA) in an attempt to avoid the patents on public-key systems. It was written by Mark Riordan, who later wrote RIPEM. Its distribution was halted when, contrary to the beliefs of many (including Rabin), PKP claimed that their patents were broad enough to cover the cipher employed. This claim is not universally accepted, but was not challenged for pragmatic reasons. RPEM is not really used anymore. It is not compatible with RIPEM or PGP. 15) What is MIME? MIME stands for Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions, and is described in RFC 1341. You can find out about it in the newsgroup comp.mail.mime; a FAQ exists on it. How PEM should interact with MIME is not yet entirely clear; some people use the stopgap solution of having a MIME type application/x-ripem in order to send RIPEM messages as MIME ones. I hope some standards will emerge. Draft Internet documents exist on the matter. 16) What is TIS/PEM? Trusted Information Systems is working on a version of Privacy Enhanced Mail for general availability. Last I heard, it was rumored to be integrated into an existing mail user agent (MH) rather than a stand-alone system, and in beta test. I don't know much more than that. 17) I have this simple way to defeat the security of RIPEM... You may wish to check the companion post "ripem-attacks" which discusses some of the more obvious attacks on RIPEM's security and what procedures will minimize the risk. RIPEM's main "weak area" is probably key distribution.

From: [email protected] (Mike Sturdevant) Subject: Re: Ed must be a Daemon Child!! Article-I.D.: usenet.1pqhvu$go8 Reply-To: [email protected] (Mike Sturdevant) Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA) Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu In a previous article, [email protected] (David Svoboda) says: >In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Cookson) writes: >| >|Wait a minute here, Ed is Noemi AND Satan? Wow, and he seemed like such >|a nice boy at RCR I too. > >And Noemi makes me think of "cuddle", not "KotL". > You talking bout the same Noemi I know? She makes me think of big bore hand guns and extreme weirdness. This babe rode a CSR300 across the desert! And a borrowed XL100 on the Death Ride. Don't fuck with her man, your making a big mistake. -- Go fast. Take chances. Mike S.

From: [email protected] (Ihno Krumreich) Subject: CD-ROM drives Summary: Hit list of the most sold CD-ROM drives without SCSI-Interface Keywords: CD-ROM drives Organization: Synerix GmbH, Karlsruhe Lines: 23 Has someone a list of CD-ROM's with no SCSI-Interface and if known how much they are present in the market. Please mail direcktly as I am not reguarly reading the group. I'll post a summary if wanted. Thanks Ihno ============================================================================== Ihno Krumreich | Phone (49) 721 955 253 0 U U N N III X X Synerix Gmbh | email: [email protected] U U NN N I X X Bach Strasse 24 | FAX (49) 721 59 02 11 U U N N N I X D-W7500 Karlsruhe 21 | U U N NN I X X UUU N N III X X -- ============================================================================== Ihno Krumreich | Phone (49) 721 955 253 0 U U N N III X X Synerix Gmbh | email: [email protected] U U NN N I X X

From: [email protected] (marty capadona) Subject: Data Logging? Organization: Boeing Commercial Airplane BCS Support Lines: 19 Greetings: Can someone steer me towards sources of information on vehicle data logging systems? In particular, I would like to build/buy (or a little of both) a system that is small enough to fit on a motorcycle and will take input from various sensors (pressure, LVDT's, acceleration, RPM, O2 sensor...), digitize and record it for later analysis. Please email me any info. If I get anything interesting, I'll compile it and get it on the net. Thanks. _______________________________________________________________________ marty capadona [email protected] seattle, wa 82 gpz750, 82 gs1100, 88 hawk gt, 90 gs500 ama, msf, wmrra, omrra... Forget what I said. _______________________________________________________________________

From: [email protected] (Dillon Pyron) Subject: Re: space food sticks Keywords: food Lines: 25 Nntp-Posting-Host: skndiv.dseg.ti.com Reply-To: [email protected] Organization: TI/DSEG VAX Support In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (John Elson) writes: >Has anyone ever heard of a food product called "Space Food Sticks?" This >was apparently created/marketed around the time of the lunar expeditions, along >with "Tang" and other dehydrated foods. I have spoken with several people >who have eaten these before, and they described them as a dehydrated candy. >Any information would be greatly appreciated. A freeze dried Tootsie Roll (tm). The actual taste sensation was like nothing you will ever willingly experience. The amazing thing was that we ate a second one, and a third and .... I doubt that they actually flew on missions, as I'm certain they did "bad things" to the gastrointestinal tract. Compared to Space Food Sticks, Tang was a gastronomic contribution to mankind. -- Dillon Pyron | The opinions expressed are those of the TI/DSEG Lewisville VAX Support | sender unless otherwise stated. (214)462-3556 (when I'm here) | (214)492-4656 (when I'm home) |God gave us weather so we wouldn't complain [email protected] |about other things. PADI DM-54909 | PS. I don't think Tang flew, either. Although it was developed under contract.

From: [email protected] (Paul Harvey) Subject: Christians above the Law? was Clarification of personal position Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'. Lines: 24 In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Darius_Lecointe) writes: >... other good stuff deleted ... >You can worship every day of the week. The issue is not whether >Christians are at fault for going to church on Sunday or for not going to >church on Saturday. Attending a church service does not mean you have >recognized the holiness of that day (my apologies to Paul Hudson). The >question is "On what authority do we proclaim that the requirements of the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >fourth commandment are no longer relevant to modern Christians?" Please ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >note that the commandment does not command you to go to church, only to >keep it holy unto the Lord by refraining from doing on it what only serves >to give you pleasure and satisfaction. When are we going to hear a Christian answer to this question? In paraphrase: On what or whose authority do Christians proclaim that they are above the Law and above the Prophets (7 major and 12 minor) and not accountable to the Ten Commandments of which Jesus clearly spoke His opinion in Matthew 5:14-19? What is the source of this pseudo-doctrine? Who is the pseudo-teacher? Who is the Great Deceiver?

From: [email protected] (David Joshua Mirsky) Subject: Re: Desktop rebuild and Datadesk keyboard? Organization: dis Lines: 32 NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.ai.mit.edu In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Terry Thiel) writes: >Ijust got a new Datadesk 101E keyboard to go with my new Centris 610 and have a >problem doing desktop rebuilds. I hold down the Command and Option keys and >restart but nothing happens. The DIP switches are set the right way and the >Command and Option keys seem to work on anything else. I'm running 7.1 btw. >Anyone know what the problem is? >-Terry I am resending this message because my news program may have goofed the first time. Terry, I recently bought an LCIII and a Datadesk 101E. I don't remember trying to rebuild the desktop with it, however it did give me a strange problem. When I held down shift during startup to disable all extensions, nothing happened. I tried it with another keyboard, using the same adb connector cable- and it worked with the other keyboard. The shift key on the Datadesk keyboard worked well otherwise. I checked the dipswitches and they are fine. Try disabling your extensions and tell me if it works. I am annoyed with Datadesk. I sent them the keyboard in the mail for inspection/repair/replacement. The technician on the phone said they have a 10-14 day turn around time- meaning you should receive the inspected/repaired keyboard in that time. Well, they have had the keyboard for over 3 weeks and I still have gotten very little info from them about it. It's annoying because it cost me $12 to send them the keyboard and their technical support line is not toll free. tell me if you have a similar experience with them. -David Mirsky [email protected]

From: [email protected] (Florian Bockamp) Subject: WANTED: Matrox PG-1281 CV driver Originator: [email protected] Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Lines: 24 Hi! I need a Windows 3.1 driver for the Matrox PG-1281 CV SVGA card. At the moment Windows runs only in the 640x480 mode. If you have a driver for this card, please send it with the OEMSETUP.INF to [email protected] Thanks! -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Florian Bockamp ''' | | [email protected] (o o) | +---------------------------------------------oOO--( )--OOo-------+ | - | | "It's not a bug, it's an undocumented feature!" | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+

From: [email protected] (Derrick M. Jewlal) Subject: Re: plus minus stat Lines: 45 Organization: University of Waterloo In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Roger Maynard) writes: >From: [email protected] (Roger Maynard) >Subject: Re: plus minus stat >Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1993 17:48:28 GMT >In <[email protected]> [email protected] (Roland Dreier) writes: > >>Selanne's +7 leads the Jets; Teppo Numminen is +4. Who do you think >>is better defensively? Ron Francis of the Penguins is +5, although he >>has 97 points, while Jaromir Jagr has only 87 points but is +30. Is >>Jagr really better on defense than Francis? And how exactly should we >>interpret the fact that Mario Lemieux has by far the highest +/- in >>the league? Does he get the Selke as well as the Ross? > >The plus/minus does not measure defense alone. It attempts to measure >a player's total contribution to the team effort. And certainly, it >is far from perfect and my posting never implied otherwise. All that >my posting suggested was that the +/- was a better indicator of a >player's effectiveness, when examined in the context of that player's >team's performance, than mere scoring totals alone. And as for Mario >getting the Selke - why not? After Doug Gilmour, I would rather have >Lemieux on the ice in any situation (other than as an enforcer, obvi- >ously) than any player in the game. I used to call the Selke the "Bob >Gainey Award". It came about as a result of the statement made by >Anatoli Tarasov: "Bob Gainey is the best hockey player in the world." >I am sure that Tarasov was either misquoted, originally, or had a tiny >bit too much Vodka and was toying with a reporter. In any event, the >NHL decided to honour one dimensional checkers along with one dimen- >sional scorers. Maybe the league should start awarding the "Doug Gil- >mour Award" anually to the league's most effective, all-round player. > >cordially, as always, > >rm > >-- >Roger Maynard >[email protected] Hey, what about the "Roger Maynard Award" for the most annoying fan....? ======================================================== Derrick M. Jewlal 34 Laurel St. , Apt. #1 Waterloo 747 4804

From: [email protected] (Ari Epstein) Subject: Re: Jewish Baseball Players? Organization: CMPO at MIT Lines: 4 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: loch.mit.edu I think you can add former A's first baseman Mike Epstein (no relation) to the list. Ari

From: [email protected] (David Veal) Subject: Re: My Gun is like my American Express Car Lines: 137 Organization: University of Tennessee Division of Continuing Education In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Richard Wojcik) writes: >In article 734629856@misty, [email protected] (John R. Moore) writes: >>[email protected] (Paul Prescod) writes: >> >>]I'm not. I'm in Canada. We have far fewer shootings like this. We have >>]had, I believe, one mass murder in the last twenty years. >> >>]I'm not going to say we don't have our gun problems. But we do have the >>]world's largest undefended boarder with one of the most gun-happy countries >>]in the world. I think Canada illustrates that gun control does have an >>]effect. In fact, it's suprising that there is any difference considering >>]how easy it is to smuggle a gun from the U.S. >> >>Yes, it's amazing, isn't it. In fact, it should tell you that gun control >>is NOT the reason your crime rate is low, since any idiot can smuggle guns >>into Canada from the US at any time. > >I think Paul was trying to make the point that "any idiot" doesn't. There are >surely some idiots who do smuggle guns, but Paul seems to feel that the exis- >tence of stricter gun control laws has had a deterrent effect. This seems a strange argument to make considering that Canada's violent crime rate in general is far lower than that of the U.S. (Our non-gun crime rate is greater than their *entire* crime rate). It would seem strange to suggest that it, to, were the result of gun control laws. I think if we looked we'd find very specific (cultural and enforcement) reasons why the non-gun rate is low as well, and then that reasons could be applied to the with-gun rates as easily. >Given that most >criminally used guns are either legally purchased or stolen from those who >purchase them legally, having more restrictions on legal possession does >seem to have the effect of reducing gun-related crimes. Aside from the fact that I find the idea of being punished because somebody might steal something from me and go and commit a crime with it a silly solution, it still doesn't address the question of Canada. (Which is now, by the way, blaming their rising gun-crime rate on the U.S. Strange that the border used to "magically" keep the guns out, but now isn't.) >It certainly makes >sense that it would. (Well, it makes sense to some of us, anyway. ;-) The other side of the coin, of course, is that far "illegal drugs" are purchases legally or stolen from people who purchase them legally. I've still not been convinced that guns, a commodity which criminals have shown their perfectly willing to pay for from illegal sources (stolen either from police, military, or civilian) we wouldn't simply see South American sources from which drugs come start smuggling guns as well, since there's a thriving gun manufacturing industry down there. >>If you would just look a little closer at the crime statistics, you would >>realize that: >> -our non-gun crime rate is also very high, so guns per se are not the issue > >Directly contradicted by the NEJM study that compared crime in Seattle and >Vancouver, B.C. The non-gun rates were roughly the same for both cities. The >difference in violent crime rates was almost totally gun-related. And as was not pointed out in the study, but in critiques of it, (two seperate articles by James Wright and David Kopel come to mind) it was pointed out that the difference was *also* almost entirely minority related. That is, the gun crime rate skyrocketed for poor minorities (Blacks and Hispanics primarily) while when you compared the white majority they were virutally identical. The problem with the NEJM study was they compared minority vs. non-minority percentages but failed to take into account the relative conditions of those minorities. That there was an eqaul percentage of nomn-whites was about as far as they went. They failed to take into account that the non-whites in either city were not living in the same conditions. If the situation was entirely based on availability of guns, then we'd expect that the white rates, the two groups which are arguably fairly comparative in the two cities, would have a far higher rate in Seattle. Yet the majority in Seattle is not only not significantly higher when the minorities are excluded, but slightly lower. >> -violent crime is highly concentrated in the inner city > >Surprise. Pick the area with the highest incidence of poverty, drug use, disease, >etc. Since rates are lower in suburbia, us middle class folks can ignore the >problem. The point is, of course, that many of the U.S. "inner-city" problems are not mirrored in Canada. As such if there is a condition which is significantly different in Canada from the U.S., and violent crime is highly correlated to that area, suggesting that gun control is the source of Canada's low rate is highly questionable. (As one Canadian pointed out on talk.politics.guns, Canada's major gun control in 1978 did not result in either a reduction or a slowing of an increase in violent crime rates, which have been rising steadily since. Apparently they didn't even mirror the U.S.s very large drop of violent crime in the early eighties. >> -most violent crime occurs in areas with strict gun control already > >Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Those areas implemented gun control because of >the high rates. True only to a certain extent. Take Washington D.C., where gun control was instituted while it had crime problems true, but that crime proceeded to explode afterwards. Similarly for New York. The question is not simply a point in time where crime was high or low. Did the gun control significantly and positively impact violent crime. Since it's gone up in those areas, often faster than it was going up before, you can't simply dismiss the high crime rate by saying gun control was caused by it. Yes, gun control may be instituted to deal with high crime. But if the crime is not positively impacted, you can't continually say that that crime rate was entirely a cause of that gun control, since much of that crime rate increased after gun control was implemented, just as happened in Canada. >Similar or worse rates exist in cities with poor gun control. As would be expected if violent crime was generally independent of gun control. >And the jury is still out on the question of whether recent tough laws in >Washington D.C. may have alleviated violence and suicide rates there. Would this be the laws which made manufacturers liable for what others did with their guns, and suddenly the police found nobody would sell to them? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ David Veal Univ. of Tenn. Div. of Cont. Education Info. Services Group [email protected] - "I still remember the way you laughed, the day your pushed me down the elevator shaft; I'm beginning to think you don't love me anymore." - "Weird Al"

From: [email protected] (Chris Herringshaw) Subject: Ray tracer for ms-dos? Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Lines: 9 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: llullaillaco.engin.umich.edu Originator: [email protected] Sorry for the repeat of this request, but does anyone know of a good free/shareware program with which I can create ray-traces and save them as bit-mapped files? (Of course if there is such a thing =) Thanks in advance Daemon

From: [email protected] (Vinayak Dutt) Subject: Re: Islam And Scientific Predictions (was Reply-To: [email protected] Organization: Mayo Foundation/Mayo Graduate School :Rochester, MN Lines: 53 In article [email protected], [email protected] (Umar Khan) writes: ##I strongly suggest that you look up a book called THE BIBLE, THE QURAN, AND ##SCIENCE by Maurice Baucaille, a French surgeon. It is not comprehensive, ##but, it is well researched. I imagine your library has it or can get it ##for you through interlibrary loan. ## I shall try to get hold of it (when I have time to read of course :-) ##In short, Dr Baucaille began investigating the Bible because of pre- ##ceived scientific inaccuracies and inconsistencies. He assumed that ##some of the problems may have been caused by poor translations in by- ##gone days. So, he read what he could find in Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic. ##What he found was that the problems didn't go away, they got worse. ##Then, he decided to see if other religions had the same problems. ##So, he picked up the Holy Qur'an (in French) and found similar prob- ##lems, but not as many. SO, he applied the same logoic as he had ##with the Bible: he learned to read it in Arabic. The problems he ##had found with the French version went away in Arabic. He was unable ##to find a wealth of scientific statements in the Holy Qur'an, but, ##what he did find made sense with modern understanding. So, he ##investigated the Traditions (the hadith) to see what they had to ##say about science. they were filled with science problems; after ##all, they were contemporary narratives from a time which had, by ##pour standards, a primitive world view. His conclusion was that, ##while he was impressed that what little the Holy Qur'an had to ##say about science was accurate, he was far more impressed that the ##Holy Qur'an did not contain the same rampant errors evidenced in ##the Traditions. How would a man of 7th Century Arabia have known ##what *not to include* in the Holy Qur'an (assuming he had authored ##it)? ## So in short the writer (or writers) of Quran decided to stay away from science. (if you do not open your mouth, then you don't put you foot into your mouth either). But then if you say Quran does not talk much about science, then one can not make claims (like Bobby does) that you have great science in Quran. Basically I want to say that *none* of the religious texts are supposed to be scientific treatises. So I am just requesting the theists to stop making such wild claims. --- Vinayak ------------------------------------------------------- vinayak dutt e-mail: [email protected] standard disclaimers apply -------------------------------------------------------

From: [email protected] Subject: ESPN Tonight Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Lines: 7 Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra.rose-hulman.edu Has anyone heard what game ESPN is showing tonight. They said they will show whatever game means the most playoff-wise. I would assume this would be the Blues-Tampa game or the Minnesota-Red Wings game... Anyone heard for sure??? Jeff Swartz

From: [email protected] Subject: Re: When is Apple going to ship CD300i's? Organization: University of Houston Lines: 22 Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: franklin.bchs.uh.edu In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (rodney jacks) writes: > I would really like to get one of the new CD300i CDROM > drives for my c650, but my local Apple doesn't know > when they will be available. He doesn't even have a part > number yet. Does anyone know what the part number > for this drive is and when it will be available? > > My Apple dealer suggested I buy one of the CD300 external > drives, but I don't want to pay extra for a case/power supply > I'm not going to use. > > -Rodney Jacks > ([email protected]) The CD300 (external) is already shipping and has been shipping for quite awhile now. Demand for the units are high, so they are pretty rare. I've seen them listed for around $525-550 at local computer stores and the campus Mac reseller. I've also heard rumors that they are bundled with a couple of CD's, but I can't confirm it. Sunny ===>[email protected]

From: [email protected] (Larry Cipriani) Subject: Ohio House Bill 278 (Otto Beatty's military weapons ban) Organization: Ideology Busters, Inc. Distribution: usa Keywords: Otto Beatty, military weapons, registration, sales ban Lines: 486 [Note, Ohio legislation unlike Federal legislation, shows the entire law as it would be changed by the legislation. These parts are in ALL CAPITALS, the rest (i.e., current law is in regular type)]. AS INTRODUCED 120TH GENERAL ASEMBLY REGULAR SESSION H. B. NO. 278 1993-1994 REPRESENATIVE BEATTY A BILL To amend sections2923.11, 2923.17,and 2923.20 and to enact section 2923.181 of the Revised Code to expand the defintion of dangerous ordnance to include military weapons that do not use bolt action, to increase the penalty for a violation of the prohibition against possession of dangerous ordnance, to prohibit any person from acquiring a military weapon on or after the act's effective date, to require the licensure of military weapons acquired for aproper purpose prior to the act's effective dte, to prohibit a person from importing, manufacturing, or selling a military weapon, and to declare an emergency. BE IT ENACTED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF OHIO: Section 1. That sections 2923.11, 2923.17 and 2923.20 be amended and section 2923.181 of the Revised Code be enacted to read as follows: Sec. 2923.11. As used in section 2923.11 to 2923.24 of the Revised Code: (A) "deadly weapon" means any instrument, device, or thing capable of inflicting death, and designed or specially adapted for use as a weapon, or possessed, carried, or used as a weapon. (B)(1) "firearm" means any deadly weapon capable of expelling or propelling one or more projectiles by the action of an explosive or combustible propellant. "firarms" includes an unloaded firearm, and any firearm which is inoperable but which can readily be rendered operable. (2) When determining whether a firearm is capable of expelling or propelling one or more projectiles by the action of an explosive or combustible propellant, the trier of fact may rely upon circumstancial evidence, including, but not limited to, the representations and actions of the individual exercising control over the firearm. (C) "Handgun" means any firearm designed to be fired while held in one hand. (D) "Semi-automatic firearm" means any firearm designed or specially adapted to fire a single cartridge and automatically chamber a suceeding cartridge ready to fire, with a single function of the trigger. (E) "Automatic firearm" means any firearm designed or specially adapted to fire a succession of cartridges with a single function of the trigger. "Automatic firearm" also means any semi-automatic firearm designed or specially adapted to fire more than thirty-one cartridges without reloading, other than a firearm chambering only .22 caliber short, long, or long-rifle cartridges. (F) "Sawed-off firearm" means a shotgun with a barrel less than eighteen inches long, or a rifle with a barrel less than sixteen inches long, or a shotgun or rifle less than twenty-six inches long overall. (G) "Zip-gun" means any of the following: (1) Any firearm of crude and extemporized manufacture; (2) Any device, including without limitation a starter's pistol, not designed as a firearm, but which is specially adapted for use as a firearm; (3) Any industrial tool, signalling device, or safety device, not designed as a firearm, but which as designed is capable of use as such A FIREARM, when possessed, carried, or used as a firearm. (H) "Explosive device" means any device designed or specially adapted to cause physical harm to persons or property by means of an explosion, and consisting of an explosive substance or agency and a means to detonate it. "Explosive device" includes without limitation any bomb, any explosive demolition device, any blasting cap or detonator containing an explosive charge, and any pressure vessel which has been knowingly tampered with or arranged so as to explode. (I) "Incendiary device" means any firebomb, and any device designed or specially adapted to cause physical harm to persons or property by means of fire, and consisting of an incendiary substance or agency and a means to ignite it. (J) "Ballistic knife" means a knife with a detachable blade that is propelled by a spring-operated mechanism. (K) "Dangerous ordinance" means any of the following, except as provided in division (L) of this section: (1) Any automatic or sawed-off firearms. zip-gun, or ballistic knife; (2) Any explosive device or incendiary device; (3) Nitroglycerin, nitrocellulose, nitrostarch, PETN, cyclonite, TNT, picric acid, and other high explosives; amatol, tritonal, tetrytol, pentolite, pecretol, cyclotol, and other high explosive compositions; plastic explosives; dynamite, blasting gelatin, gelatin dynamite, sensitized ammonium nitrate, liquid- oxygen blasting explosives, blasting powder, and other blasting agents; and any other explosive substance having sufficient brisance or power to be particularly suitable for use as a military explosive, or for use in mining, quarrying, excavating, or demolitions; (4) Any firearm, rocket launcher, mortar, artillery piece grenade, mine, bomb, torpedo, or similar weapon, designed and manufactured for military purposes, and the ammunition for that weapon; (5) Any firearm muffler or silencer; (6) ANY MILITARY WEAPON; (7) ANY DETACHABLE MAGAZINE, MAGAZINE, DRUM, BELT, FEED STRIP, OR SIMILAR DEVICE THAT HAS A CAPACITY OF, OR THAT READILY CAN BE RESTORED OR CONVERTED TO ACCEPT, MORE THAN FIFTEEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION; (8) Any combination of parts that is intended by the owner for use in converting any firearm or other device into a dangerous ordinance. (L) "Dangerous ordnance" does not include any of the following: (1) Any firearm, including a military weapon and the ammunition for that weapon, and regardless of its actual age, which employs a percussion cap or other obsolete ignition system or which is designed and safe for use only with black powder, and (2) Any pistol, rifle, or shotgun, designed or suitable for sporting purposes, UNLESS THE FIREARM IS EITHER OF THE FOLLOWING; (a) A military weapon as issued or as modified, and the ammunition for that weapon; (b) AN automatic or sawed-off firearm. (3) Any cannon or other artilery piece which, regardless of its actual age, is of a type in accepted use prior to 1887, has no mechanical, hydraulic, pneumatic, or other system for absorbing recoil and returning the tube into battery without displacing the carriage, and is designed and safe for use only with black powder; (4) Black powder, priming quills, and percussion caps possessed and lawfully used to fire a cannon of a type defined in division (L) (3) of this section during displays, celebrations, organized matches or shoots, and target practice, and smokeless and black powder, primers, and percussion caps possed and lawfully used as a propellant or ignition device in small-arms or small-arms ammunition; (5) Dangerous ordinance which is inoperable or inert and cannot readily be rendered operable or activated, and which is kept as a trophy, souvenir, curio, or museum piece. (6) Any device which is expressly excepted from the definition of a destructive device pursuant to the "Gun Control Act of 1968," 82 Stat. 1213, 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(4), as amended, and regulations issued under that act. (M) "MILITARY WEAPON' MEANS ANY OF THE FOLLOWING; (1) ANY FIREARM THAT ORIGINALLY WAS MANUFACTURED FOR MILITARY USE, OR A COPY OF ANY SUCH FIREARM, IF THE FIREARM IS NOT A BOLT ACTION FIREARM; (2) ANY MODEL OF ANY OF THE FOLLOWING FIREARMS THAT IS A SEMI-AUTOMATIC FIREARM AND IS A RIFLE OR ANY MODEL OF ANY COPY OF ANY OF THE FOLLOWING FIREARMS THAT IS A SEMI-AUTOMATIC FIREARM AND IS A RIFLE; (a) ARMALITE AR-180; (b) AUTO-ORDNANCE THOMPSON MODELS 1927A1 AND M-1; (c) AVTOMAT KALASHNIKOV; (d) POLY TECH AK-47S; (e) CHINA SPORTS AK-47 BULLPUP; (f) MITCHELL AK-47 AND M-76 (g) BARRETT LIGHT-FIFTY MODEL 82A1; (h) BARETTA AR-70; (i) BUSHMASTER AUTO RIFLE; (j) CALICO M900 AND M-100 (k) COLT AR-15 (l) COMMANDO ARMS CARBINE, MARK 111, MARK 45, AND MARK 9; (m) UNIVERSAL 5000 CARBINE, ENFORCER; (n) AMERICAN ARMS ARM-1 AND AKY 39; (o) DAEWOO MAX-1 AND MAX-2; (p) FABRIQUE NATIONALE FN/FAL, FN/LAR. AND FN/FNC; (q) FAMAS MAS 223; (r) FEATHER AT-9; (s) FEDERAL KC-900 AND XC-450 (t) GALIL AR AND ARM; (u) GONCZ HIGH-TECH CARBINE; (v) HECKLER AND KOCH HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, AND PSG-1; (w) MANDALL TAC-1 CARBINE (x) RUGER MINI 14/SF FOLDING STOCK MODEL; (y) SIG 57 AMT AND 500 SERIES; (z) SPRINGFIELD ARMORY SAR-48, G-3, BM-59 ALPINE, AND M1A CARBINE; (aa) STERLING MK-6 AND MARK 7; (bb) STEYR AUG; (cc) UZI CARBINE AND MINI-CARBINE; (dd) VALMET M-62S, M-76, M-78, AND M82 BULLPUP CARBINE; (ee) WEAVER ARMS NIGHTHAWK; (ff) MILITARY M14 AND MILITARY M1 CARBINE .30; (gg) SPRINGFIELD ARMORY M1A ASSAULT; (hh) THOMPSON 27A-5 WITH DRUM MAGAZINE; (ii) PLAINFIELD COMMANDO UNIVERSE 5000 CARBINE; (jj) COBRAY M-11 WITH OR WITHOUT SILENCER; (kk) SPECTRE AUTO CARBINE; (ll) SWD COBRAY; (mm) ARMI JAGER AP-74 AND AP-74 COMMANDO; (nn) ARMSCORP OF AMERICA ISRAELI FN-FAL; (oo) CLAYCO SKS CARBINE; (pp) DRAGUNOV SNIPER; (qq) EMF AP-74; (rr) IVER JOHNSON PM30 P PARATROOPER; (ss) NORINCO SKS; (tt) PARTISAN AVENGER; (uu) SIGARMS SG 550 SP AND SG 551 SP; (vv) SQUIRES BINGHAM M 16; (ww) WILKINSON "TERRY" CARBINE. (3) ANY MODEL OF ANY OF THE FOLLOWING FIREARMS THAT IS A SEMI-AUTOMATIC FIREARM AND IS A PISTOL OR ANY MODEL OF ANY COPY OF ANY OF THE FOLLOWING FIREARMS THAT IS A SEMI-AUTOMATIC FIREARM AND IS A PISTOL: (a) BUSHMASTER AUTO PISTOL; (b) CALICO 100-P AUTO PISTOL; (c) EBCIN NJ-IV, MP-9, AND MP-45; (d) FEATHER MINI-AT; (e) GONCZ HIGH TECH PISTOL' (f) HOLMES MP-83 AND MP-22; (g) INTRATEC TEC-9 AND SCORPION .22; (h) IVER JOHNSON ENFORCER; (i) INGRAM MAC-10 AND MAC-11; (j) MITCHELL ARMS SPECTRE AUTO; (k) SCARAB SKORPION; (l) STERLING MK-7; (m) UZI PISTOL; (n) UNIVERSAL ENFORCER; (o) WILKINSON "LINDA" AUTO PISTOL. (4) ANY MODEL OF ANY OF THE FOLLOWING FIREARMS THAT IS A SEMI-AUTOMATIC FIREARM AND IS A SHOTGUN OR ANY MODEL OF ANY COPY OF ANY OF THE FOLLOWING FIREARMS THAT IS A SEMI-AUTOMATIC FIREARM AND IS A SHOTGUN: (a) FRANCHI SPAS-12 AND LAW-12; (b) STRIKER 12 AND STREET SWEEPER; (c) BENELLI M1 SUPER 90; (d) MOSSBERG 500 BULLPUP; (e) USAS-12 AUTO SHOTGUN. Sec. 2923.17. (A)(1) No person shall knowingly acquire, have, OR carry any dangerous ordnance. (2) NO PERSON SHALL KNOWINGLY USE ANY DANGEROUS ORDNANCE. (B) This section does not apply to ANY OF THE FOLLOWING: (1) Officers, agents, or employees of this or any other state or the United States, members of the armed forces of the United States or the organized militia of this or any other state, and law enforcement officers, to the extent that any such person is authorized to acquire, have, carry, or use dangerous ordnance and is acting within the scope of his duties; (2) Importers, manufacturers, dealers, and users of explosives, having a license or user permit issued and in effect pursuant to the "Organized Crime Control Act of 1970," 84 Stat. 952, 18 U.S.C. 843, and any amendments or additions TO or reenactments OF THAT ACT, with respect to explosives and explosive devices lawfully acquired, possessed, carried, or used under the laws of this state and applicable federal law; (3) Importers, manufactuers, and dealers having a license to deal in destructive devices or their ammunition, issued and in effect pursuant to the "Gun Control Act of 1968," 82 Stat. 1213. 18 U.S.C. 923 and any amendments or additions TO or reenactments OF THAT ACT, with respect to dangerous ordnance lawfully acquired, possessed, carried, or used under the laws of this state and applicable federal law; (4) Persons to whom surplus ordnance has been sold, loaned, or given by the secretary of the army pursuant to 70A Stat. 62 and 263, 10 U.S.C. 4684, 4685, 4686, and any amendments or additions TO or reenactments OF THAT ACT, with respect to dangerous ordnance when lawfully possessed and used for the purpose specified in THAT section; (5) Owners of dangerous ordnance registered in the national firearms registration and transfer record pursuant to the act of October 22, 1968, 82 Stat.1229, 26 U.S.C. 5841, and any amendments or additions TO or reenactments OF, and regulations issued UNDER THE ACT. (6) Carriers, warehousemen, and others engaged in the business of transporting or storing goods for hire, with respect to dangerous ordnance lawfully transported or stored in the usual course of their business and in compliance with the laws of this state and applicable federal law; (7) The holders of a license or temporary permit issued and in effect pursuant to section 2923.18 of the Revised Code, with respect to dangerous ordnance lawfully acquired, possessed, carried, or used for the purposes and in the manner specified in THE license or permit. (C) DIVISION (A)(1) OF THIS SECTION DOES NOT APPLY TO THE ACQUISITION, HAVING, OR CARRYING OF DANGEROUS ORDNANCE THAT IS A MILITARY WEAPON IF BOTH OF THE FOLLOWING APPLY: (1) THE PERSON WHO ACQUIRES, HAS, OR CARRIES THE DANGEROUS ORDNANCE IN QUESTION ACQUIRED IT BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS AMENDMENT AS A COLLECTOR'S ITEM OR FOR A LEGITIMATE RESEARCH, SCIENTIFIC, EDUCATIONAL, INDUSTRIAL, OR OTHER PROPER PURPOSE; (2) NO LATER THAN THE CLOSE OF BUSINESS ON THE SEVENTH DAY AFTER THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS AMENDMENT, THE PERSON WHO ACQUIRED THE DANGEROUS ORDNANCE IN QUESTION IN ACCORDANCE WITH DIVISION (C)(1) OF THIS SECTION SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION PURSUANT TO SECTION 2923.181 OF THE REVISED CODE FOR A LICENSE TO HAVE AND CARRY IT AND THE APPLICATION HAS NOT BEEN DENIED OR A VALID LICENSE HAS BEEN ISSUED TO THE PERSON. (D) DIVISIONS (A)(1) AND (2) OF THIS SECTION DO NOT APPLY TO THE ACQUISITION, HAVING, CARRYING, OR USING OF ANY DANGEROUS ORDNANCE DESCRIBED IN DIVISION (k)(7) OF SECTION 2923.11 OF THE REVISED CODE THAT WAS ACQUIRED PRIOR TO THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS AMENDMENT. (E) Whoever violates this section is quilty of unlawful possession of dangerous ordnance, a AN AGGRAVATED felony of the FIRST degree. Sec. 2923.181. (A) ANY PERSON WHO ACQUIRED A MILITARY WEAPON BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS SECTION SHALL FILE A WRITTEN APPLICATION FOR A LICENSE TO HAVE AND CARRY THE MILITARY WEAPON WITH THE SHERIFF OF THE COUNTY OR SAFETY DIRECTOR OR POLICE CHIEF OF THE MUNICIPAL CORPORATION WHERE THE APPLICANT RESIDES OR HAS HIS PRINCIPAL PLACE OF BUSINESS. THE APPLICATION SHALL BE FILED NO LATER THAN THE CLOSE OF BUSINESS ON THE SEVENTH DAY AFTER THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS SECTION AND SHALL BE ACCOMPANIED BY A FILING FEE OF FIFTY DOLLARS. THE PERSON SHALL FILE A SEPARATE APPLICATION AND PAY A SEPARATE FILING FEE FOR EACH MILITARY WEAPON THAT HE HAS OR INTENDS TO CARRY. THE APPLICATION SHALL CONTAIN ALL OF THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION: (1) THE NAME, AGE, ADDRESS, OCCUPATION, AND BUSINESS ADDRESS OF THE APPLICANT, IF THE APPLICANT IS A NATURAL PERSON, OR THE NAME, ADDRESS, AND PRINCIPAL PLACE OF BUSINESS OF THE APPLICANT, IF THE APPLICANT IS A CORPORATION; (2) A DESCRIPTION OF THE MILITARY WEAPON FOR WHICH A LICENSE IS REQUESTED, INCLUDING THE SERIAL NUMBER AND ALL IDENTIFICATION MARKS; (3) A STATEMENT OF THE PURPOSE FOR WHICH THE MILITARY WEAPON WAS ACQUIRED AND FOR WHICH IT IS TO BE POSSESSED, CARRIED, OR USED; (4) ANY OTHER INFORMATION THAT THE ISSUING AUTHORITY MAY REQUIRE IN GIVING EFFECT TO THIS SECTION; (5) THE OATH OF THE APPLICANT THAT THE INFORMATION ON THE APPLICATION IS TRUE. (B)(1) NO LATER THAN THE CLOSE OF BUSINESS ON THE FOURTEENTH DAY AFTER AN APPLICATION FOR A LICENSE TO HAVE AND CARRY A MILITARY WEAPON HAS BEEN FILED UNDER DIVISION (A) OF THIS SECTION, THE ISSUING AUTHORITY SHALL EITHER APPROVE THE APPLICATION AND ISSUE A LICENSE TO THE APPLICANT OR DENY THE APPLICATION AND SEND A LETTER OF DENIAL BY ORDINARY MAIL TO THE APPLICANT. AFTER CONDUCTING ANY NECESSARY INVESTIGATION, THE ISSUING AUTHORITY SHALL ISSUE A LICENSE TO AN APPLICANT WHOM IT DETERMINES SATISFIES THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA: (a) THE APPLICANT IS TWENTY-ONE YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER, IF THE APPLICANT IS A NATURAL PERSON; (b) IT APPEARS THAT THE APPLICANT WILL POSSESS AND CARRY THE MILITARY WEAPON AS A COLLECTOR'S ITEM OR FOR A LEGITIMATE, SCIENTIFIC, EDUCATIONAL, INDUSTRIAL, OR OTHER PROPER PURPOSE; (c) IT APPEARS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS SUFFICIENT COMPETENCE TO HAVE AND CARRY THE MILITARY WEAPON AND THAT PROPER PRECAUTIONS WILL BE TAKEN TO ENSURE THE SECURITY OF THE MILITARY WEAPON AND THE SAFETY OF PERSONS AND PROPERTY; (d) THE APPLICANT OTHERSWISE IS NOT PROHIBITED BY LAW FROM HAVING OR CARRYING DANGEROUS ORDNANCE. (2) A LICENSE ISSUED PURSUANT TO DIVISION (B)(1) OF THIS SECTION SHALL BE VALID FOR ONE YEAR AFTER THE DATE OF ITS ISSUANCE. THE LICENSE SHALL BE RENEWED PURSUANT TO DIVISION (C) OF THIS SECTION. (C)(1) EXCEPT AS PROVIDED IN DIVISION (C)(3) OF THIS SECTION, ANY PERSON WHO IS ISSUED A LICENSE UNDER DIVISION (B)(1) OF THIS SECTION SHALL RENEW THE LICENSE BY FILING AN APPLICATION FOR RENEWAL BY REGULAR MAIL WITH THE SHERIFF OF THE COUNTY OR THE SAFETY DIRECTOR OR POLICE CHIEF OF THE MUNICIPAL CORPORATION WHO WAS THE ISSUING AUTHORITY OF THE LICENSE. AN APPLICATION FOR RENEWAL SHALL BE FILED ANNUALLY NO LATER THAN ONE YEAR AFTER THE DATE ON WHICH THE LICENSE WAS ISSUED OR LAST RENEWED. (2) EACH SHERIFF AND EACH SAFETY DIRECTOR AND PEACE OFFICER OF A MUNICIPAL CORPORATION SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE APPLICATIONS FOR THE RENEWAL OF A LICENSE ISSUED UNDER DIVISION (B)(1) OF THIS SECTION. IN THE APPLICATION THE APPLICANT, UNDER OATH, SHALL UPDATE THE INFORMATION SUBMITTED IN THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION FOR A LICENSE OR THE RENEWAL OF A LICENSE. THE APPLICATION FOR THE RENEWAL OF A LICENSE SHALL BE ACCOMPANIED BY A FEE OF FIVE DOLLARS. THE APPLICANT SHALL FILE A SEPERATE APPLICATION FOR RENEWAL AND PAY A SEPERATE RENEWAL FEE FOR EACH MILITARY WEAPON THAT HE INTENDS TO CONTINUE TO HAVE AND CARRY. (3) A PERSON WHO HAS CHANGED HIS RESIDENCE OR PRINCIPAL PLACE OF BUSINESS TO A LOCATION OUTSIDE OF THE JURISDICTION OF THE ISSUING AUTHORITY SUBSEQUENT TO THE ISSUANCE OR RENEWAL OF A LICENSE UNDER THIS SECTION SHALL RENEW HIS LICENSE BY FILING AN APPLICATION IN THE MANNER PRESCRIBED BY DIVISION (A) OF THIS SECTION WITH THE SHERIFF OF THE COUNTY OR THE SAFETY DIRECTOR OR POLICE CHIEF OF THE MUNICIPAL CORPORATION WHERE HE THEN RESIDES OR HAS HIS PRINCIPAL PLACE OF BUSINESS. WHEN MAKING AN APPLICATION TO RENEW A LICENSE AFTER A CHANGE IN RESIDENCE OR PLACE OF BUSINESS, THE APPLICANT SHALL GIVE NOTICE OF THE CHANGE OF ADDRESS BY REGULAR MAIL TO THE ORIGINAL ISSUING AUTHORITY FOR THE LICENSE AND THE STATE FIRE MARSHALL ON NOTIFICATION FORMS PRESCRIBED BY THE SHERIFF, SAFETY DIRECTOR, OR POLICE CHIEF FROM WHOM HE SEEKS RENEWAL. (D) A LICENSE TO HAVE AND CARRY A MILITARY WEAPON SHALL IDENTIFY THE PERSON TO WHOM IT IS ISSUED, IDENTIFY THE MILITARY WEAPON FOR WHICH IT IS ISSUED, STATE THE PURPOSE IDENTIFIED IN DIVISION (B)(1)(b) OF THIS SECTION FOR WHICH THE MILITARY WEAPON WILL BE POSSESSED AND CARRIED, STATE ITS EXPIRATION DATE, AND LIST ALL RESTRICTIONS ON THE HAVING OR CARRYING OF THE MILITARY WEAPON AS PRESCRIBED BY THE LAWS OF THIS STATE AND APPLICABLE FEDERAL LAW. (E) ANY PERSON WHO IS ISSUED A LICENSE TO HAVE AND CARRY A MILITARY WEAPON UNDER THIS SECTION AND WHO CHANGES HIS ADDRESS SHALL NOTIFY THE ISSUING AUTHORITY OF THE CHANGE OF HIS ADDRESS NO LATER THAN NINETY DAYS AFTER THE CHANGE HAS OCCURRED. (F) THE ISSUING AUTHORITY SHALL FORWARD TO THE STATE FIRE MARSHALL A COPY OF EACH LICENSE ISSUED OR RENEWED UNDER THIS SECTION. THE STATE FIRE MARSHALL SHALL KEEP A PERMANENT FILE OF ALL LICENSES ISSUED OR RENEWED UNDER THIS SECTION. (G) THE ISSUING AUTHORITY SHALL CAUSE EACH APPLICATION FEE OF FIFTY DOLLARS, FILED UNDER DIVISION (A) OF THIS SECTION, TO BE DEPOSITED IN THE GENERAL FUND OF THE COUNTY OR MUNCIPAL CORPORATION SERVED BY THE ISSUING AUTHORITY. THE ISSUING AUTHORITY SHALL CAUSE TWO DOLLARS AND FIFTY CENTS OF EACH RENEWAL FEE, FILED UNDER DIVISION (C) OF THIS SECTION, TO BE DEPOSITED IN THE GENERAL FUND OF THE COUNTY OR MUNICIPAL CORPORATION SERVED BY THE ISSUING AUTHORITY AND SHALL SEND TWO DOLLARS AND FIFTY CENTS OF EACH RENEWAL FEE TO THE TREASURER OF STATE FOR DEPOSIT IN THE STATE TREASURY TO THE CREDIT OF THE GENERAL REVENUE FUND. (H) WHOEVER VIOLATES DIVISION (A) OF THIS SECTION IS GUILTY OF FAILING TO APPLY FOR THE LICENSURE OF A MILITARY WEAPON, A FELONY OF THE FOURTH DEGREE. WHOEVER VIOLATES DIVISION (C) OF THIS SECTION IS GUILTY OF FAILING TO APPLY FOR RENEWAL OF A LICENSE FOR A MILITARY WEAPON, A MISDEMEANOR OF THE FIRST DEGREE. (I) A MILITARY WEAPON THAT IS NOT LICENSED AS REQUIRED BY THIS SECTION IS CONTRABAND, AS DEFINED IN SECTION 2901.01 OF THE REVISED CODE AND IS SUBJECT TO FORFEITURE UNDER SECTION 2933.43 OF THE REVISED CODE. SEC. 2933.20. (A) No person shall DO ANY OF THE FOLLOWING: (1) IMPORT, MANUFACTURE, POSSESS FOR SALE, SELL, OR FURNISH TO ANY PERSON ANY MILITARY WEAPON; (2) Recklessly sell, lend, give, or furnish any firearm to any person prohibited by section 2923.13 or 2923.15 of the Revised Code from acquiring or using any firearm, or recklessly sell, lend, give, or furnish any dangerous ordnance to any person prohibited by section 2923.13, 2923.15, or 2923.17 of the Revised Code from acquiring or using any dangerous ordnance; (3) Possess any firearm or dangerous ordnance with purpose to dispose of it in violation of division (A) of this section; (4) Manufacture, possess for sale, sell, or furnish to any person other than a law enforcement agency for authorized use in police work, any brass knuckles, cestus, billy, blackjack, sandbag, switchblade knife, springblade knife, gravity knife, or similar weapon; (5) When transferring any dangerous ordnance to another, negligently fail to require the transferes to exhibit ANY identification, license, or permit showing him to be authorized to acquire dangerous ordnance pursuant to section 2923.17 of the Revised Code, or negligently fail to take a complete record of the transaction and forthwith forward a copy of THE record to the sheriff of the county or safety director or police chief of the municipality where the transaction takes place; (6) Knowingly fail to report to law enforcement authorities forthwith the loss or theft of any firearm or dangerous ordnance in such person's possession or under his control. (b) Whoever violates this section is quilty of unlawful transactions in weapons. Violation of division (A)(1) OF THIS SECTION IS AN AGGRAVATED FELONY OF THE FIRST DEGREE. VIOLATION OF DIVISION (A)(2) OR (3) Oof this section is a felony of the third degree. Violation of division (A) (4) OR (5) of this section is a misdemeanor of the second degree. Violation of division (6) of this section is a midemeanor of the fourth degree. Section 2. That existing section 2923.11, 2923.17 and 2923.20 of the Revised Code are hereby repealed. Section 3. This act is hereby declared to be an emergency measure necessary for the immediate preservation of the public peace, health, and safety. The reason for this necessity is that with immediate action, this act will prohibit the continued purchase, possession, and use of military weapons and as a result will ameliorate a substantial threat of death and injury to the public caused by the misuse of improper use of these weapons. Therefore, this act shall go into immediate effect. -- Larry Cipriani -- [email protected]

From: [email protected] (Bret Oeltjen) Subject: Cheap video card for LC? w/fpu? Nntp-Posting-Host: dialup-slip-1-33.gw.umn.edu Organization: University of Minnesota Lines: 7 Just wondering if anyone had info/experience with a video/fpu for a mac LC, just thinking of adding a second monitor, most likely grayscale. Bret Oeltjen exp(Pi i) + 1 = 0 University of Minnesota Electrical Engineering

From: [email protected] Subject: Serial Line connection between Duo 210 and PC??? Reply-To: [email protected] Disclaimer: This posting may contain no views at all News-Software: Usenet 3.1 Lines: 45 I have tried almost everything under the sun to get a null modem connection between a Mac Duo 210 and a PC. I have used MacKermit and VersaTerm on the Mac side. I have used Procomm, Kermit, and Softerm (on OS/2) on the PC (or PS) side. I have used non-Hardware handshaking and hardware ahdshaking cables. And know MY hands are shaking from the effort. Nothing has allowed file transfers from the Mac to the PS. In general, I can type back and forth with no trouble, but only if both sides are set to speeds OVER 9600 baud. I cannot send files from the Mac to the PS at all, and file transfers from the Duo to the PS are not possible. When I do a straight ascii send, I can send from the PS to the Duo flawlessly. I can send Binhex files this way quite fast, and I know that the transmission is error free. But straight ascii sent from the Mac to the PS is full of errors. Unless, of course, I do text pacing so slow that it is like human typing. (well, like 2-3 times faster than human typing). I would like to hear from ANYONE who has been able to transfer files from a Duo 210 to a PS via modem or null modem. If you can do it, please tell me your EXACT combination of hardware and software. Obviously, I am talking of a true serial port modem, not the express modem. Maybe some kind soul with access to a modem and a Duo 210 can check this out for me. Right now, I am of the opinion that it won't work at high speeds because of the power interrupts on the Duo, and it won't work at low speeds because of some crazy reason I don't understand. Could I hear from someone attesting that they can really pump information out the serial port of a Duo 210 fast? Like via a modem or via a sys-ex dump? Could anyone with a Duo help me out?? I am going absolutely INSANE. I wanna know if the problem is MY Duo, or all Duo 210s, or all Duos, or just me. Yes, I have checked the cable 1,000,000 times. And not only can I type back and forth, but Zterm alerts the users if s/he uses hardware handshaking and CTS is down. So I know that hardware handshaking is working. And also, According to Zterm port stats, the buffer never overflows. Please help me figure out what's going on... Scott Petrack [email protected]

From: [email protected] (Mr. Grinch) Subject: Re: Limiting Govt (was Re: Employment (was Re: Why not concentrate...) Organization: GrinchCo Lines: 52 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: venus.tamu.edu Summary: Limited governments versus failed governments News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Steve Hendricks) writes... > :Of course, one again faces the question of how one circumscribes government :power (and keeps it circumscribed) in a complex society when it is in the :interest of neither capitalists nor consumers to refrain from using :government power for their own ends. But apart from that little :conundrum... > Without having a complete answer to this question, I should think it obvious that the first step should be to convince people this would be a desirable result. There are still quite a lot of people who feel that the command economies of eastern Europe failed due to corruption rather than essential weaknesses of caommand economies, and you still have a majority in this nation that favors keeping unenforced and unenforcible laws on the books in order to "send a signal". :It would seem that a society with a "failed" government would be an ideal :setting for libertarian ideals to be implemented. Now why do you suppose :that never seems to occur?... I fail to see why you should feel this way in the first place. Constant combat isn't particularly conducive to intellectual theorizing. Also, they tend to get invaded before they can come to anything like a stable society anyway. >>..."regulation" is such a vauge word... > :I wouldn't call it "vague." I'd call it elastic. All "regulation" is :not necessarily the same. By opposing all government regulation, some :libertarians treat every system from a command economy to those that :regulate relatively free markets as identical. That's one reason :many of the rest of us find their analysis to be simplistic. > Umm, is there any distinction between "vague" and "elastic" in this context aside from one having a more positive connotation than the other? At any rate, we've been through all this before. :Steve Hendricks | DOMAIN: [email protected] :"One thing about data, it sure does cut| UUCP: ...!uunet!isc-br!thor!steveh : the bulls**t." - R. Hofferbert | Ma Bell: 509 838-8826 Incidentally, this is a libertarian newsgroup, you can get away with saying, "bullshit" here. You're welcome, Mr. Grinch

From: [email protected] (Richard Garrett) Subject: Wanted original Shanghai for PC Article-I.D.: sequent.1993Apr21.153350.28573 Distribution: na Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc. Lines: 11 Nntp-Posting-Host: crg8.sequent.com I am looking for shanghai, solitaire game with mahjongg tiles for PC's. if you have a copy laying around, send email to: [email protected] thanks, -- OOo O Rich Garrett O oO [email protected] o WORK (503) 578-3822 _____ o o

Organization: Penn State University From: Robbie Po <[email protected]> Subject: Did The Blues Pull It Out? Lines: 10 When I left, it was 4-3, Blues with 2:00 to go! As I predicted in "@#$%! I was right in the first place!!!" Blues in 6! YES!!! Of course it's only one game -- that could be the 'Hawks stab in the face to wake them up -- that's what playoffs are about, on any given day... :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** Robbie Po ** PGH PENGUINS!!! "We do what comes naturally! Patrick Division Semi's '91 STANLEY CUP You see now, wait for the PENGUINS 6, Devils 3 '92 CHAMPIONS possibility, don't you see a Penguins lead, 1-0 12 STRAIGHT WINS! strong resemblance..."-DG '89

From: [email protected] (Michael J. Abboud) Subject: Re: *** The list of Biblical contradictions Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha When we speak of the Bible and its apparant contradictions, we would do well to remember the context in If we are to accept this line of reason, remembering that it does not As my study of the Christian Religion has progressed over the years, I have It matters little to me, as a concession in either serves my purpose Distribution: usa Lines: 6 critus

From: [email protected] (Keith Keller) Subject: Re: Sad day for hockey Article-I.D.: netnews.118520 Organization: University of Pennsylvania, School of Arts and Sciences Lines: 39 Nntp-Posting-Host: mail.sas.upenn.edu In article <[email protected]> dvb@ick (David Van Beveren) writes: >NO NO NO! since all the penalties fall into three classes, there should >only be three penalties: > >1. Foul (Any illegal contact with the other player or his stick with your > body or stick). If you get 5 you are out for the game. > >2. Unsportsmanlike contact. (An intentional foul). This inlcludes all the > current flavours of roughing, fighting and boarding. If you get two you > are thrown out of the game, and fined. > >3. Technical foul. Bad mouthing the ref, by player or coach. Penalty shot > is awarded. Two and you are thrown out of the game. > >Besides the penalty shot for one technical, if the team gets 5 penalties >in a period, the opposing team gets a penalty shot for every additional one, >until the end of the period. The victim gets two shots if he/she was in >the act of shooting when the foul ocured. These new rule changes are great! However, I think that your rules are MUCH too complicated. How will the normal average fan be able to count how many fouls a player has? And then we would even have to remember the names of the players, in order to determine who drew the foul! And, of course, there will have to be new "sub-positions", like the power center who just sits in the slot until the (blue, of course) puck comes near him, and the "shooting defenseman" and the "point defenseman". Finally, we'll be able to keep stats on the best and the worst penalty-shot takers. Since almost everyone on the ice will be getting fouled, we'll be able to see Ulf Samuellson (sp?) and Tie Domi miss penalty shots like crazy. ;-) ;-) ;-) -- Keith Keller LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!! LET'S GO QUAKERS!!!!! [email protected] IVY LEAGUE CHAMPS!!!! "Next time you go over my head, I'll have yours on a platter." -- Cmdr. Benjamin Sisko, 1993

From: [email protected] (Ron Baalke) Subject: Magellan Update - 04/16/93 Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory Lines: 25 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov Keywords: Magellan, JPL News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Forwarded from Doug Griffith, Magellan Project Manager MAGELLAN STATUS REPORT April 16, 1993 1. The Magellan mission at Venus continues normally, gathering gravity data which provides measurement of density variations in the upper mantle which can be correlated to surface topography. Spacecraft performance is nominal. 2. Magellan has completed 7225 orbits of Venus and is now 39 days from the end of Cycle-4 and the start of the Transition Experiment. 3. No significant activities are expected next week, as preparations for aerobraking continue on schedule. 4. On Monday morning, April 19, the moon will occult Venus and interrupt the tracking of Magellan for about 68 minutes. ___ _____ ___ /_ /| /____/ \ /_ /| Ron Baalke | [email protected] | | | | __ \ /| | | | Jet Propulsion Lab | ___| | | | |__) |/ | | |__ M/S 525-3684 Telos | The aweto from New Zealand /___| | | | ___/ | |/__ /| Pasadena, CA 91109 | is part caterpillar and |_____|/ |_|/ |_____|/ | part vegetable.

From: uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu!gila005 (Stephen Holland) Subject: Re: diet for Crohn's (IBD) Organization: Gastroenterology - Univ. of Alabama Distribution: usa Lines: 48 In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote: > > In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (John Eyles) writes: > > > > A friend has what is apparently a fairly minor case of Crohn's > > disease. > > > > But she can't seem to eat certain foods, such as fresh vegetables, > > without discomfort, and of course she wants to avoid a recurrence. > > > > Her question is: are there any nutritionists who specialize in the > > problems of people with Crohn's disease ? > > > > (I saw the suggestion of lipoxygnase inhibitors like tea and turmeric). > > > > Thanks in advance, > > John Eyles > > All your friend really has to do is find a Registered Dietician(RD). While > most work in hospitals and clinics, many major cities will have RD's who > are in "private practice" so to speak. Many physicans will refer their > patients with Crohn's disease to RD's for dietary help. If you can get > your friend's physician to make a referral, medical insurance should pay for > the RD's services just like the services of a physical therapist. The > better medical insurance plans will cover this but even if your friend's > plan doesn't, it would be well worth the cost to get on a good diet to > control the intestinal discomfort and help the intestinal lining heal. > Crohn's disease is an inflammatory disease of the intestinal lining and > lipoxygenase inhibitors may help by decreasing leukotriene formation but > I'm not aware of tea or turmeric containing lipoxygenase inhibitors. For > bad inflammation, steroids are used but for a mild case, the side effects > are not worth the small benefit gained by steroid use. Upjohn is developing > a new lipoxygenase inhibitor that should greatly help deal with > inflammatory diseases but it's not available yet. > > Marty B. Be sure a dietician is up to date on Crohn's and Ulcerative Colitis. Previously, low residue diets were recommended, but this advice has now changed. Also, there will be differences in advice in patients with and without obstructuon remaining, so input by the physician will be important. I find the dietician very important in my practice, and I send most of my patients to a dietician in the course of seeing them, since dieticians know so much better how to get diet histories and evaluate the contents of a diet than I do. Steve Holland

From: [email protected] (Daniel Snodgrass) Subject: Re: stand alone editing suite. Article-I.D.: lclark.1993Apr20.191542.9392 Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR Lines: 63 In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Ken Eyler) writes: >I need some help. We are upgrading our animation/video editing stand. We >are looking into the different type of setups for A/B roll and a cuts only >station. We would like this to be controlled by a computer ( brand doesnt matter but maybe MAC, or AMIGA). Low end to high end system setups would be very >helpful. If you have a system or use a system that might be of use, could you >mail me your system requirements, what it is used for, and all the hardware and >software that will be necessary to set the system up. If you need more >info, you can mail me at [email protected] > >thanks in advance. > >:ken >:[email protected] Here at Lewis and Clark College we have recently installed a Digital Film system (based on the Mac Quadra) that does non-linear, full digital editing. If you're considering such a system, here are the pros and cons: For the educational environment, this system is excellent. We use it to produce a variety of educational materials for disemination on our local network. Because this programming is going to be viewed on other Macs, the image quality is not as important as the ability to directly export the video to the Net. We also use it to produce orientiation and promotional video programs for use by the Lewis & Clark community. Since these programs are not meant for commercial or broadcast use, image quality is not critical. The Digital Film system, for those of you who are uninitiated, is an A/B roll digitizing system on one $5000 JPEG compression card. It was promoted as an inexpensive online editing system with SVHS quality. SuperMac, the maker of the card, is trying to achieve this quality level, but as yet, has been unable to deliver. Our system produces "near VHS" quality at 30 fields per second (640x480 overscan). The card repeats every other field to get 60 fields per second. This results in a kind of Super 8 film look that some find distracting. If you can get past this problem, you'll find the Adobe Premier editing software quite enjoyable with which to work. It produces thousands of different effects from crystalize filters to DVE transitions to color matting. Because of its non-linear nature, editing is fast and easy. If you've ever used (or seen used) an AVID or Montage system, you'll recognize the methodology and the user interface. The total system with Quadra 950 (40Megs of RAM), 1 gig drive, 21" Apple mon- itor, Panasonic SVHS 1960 edit deck, audio gear (cassette, CD, EQ, mixer, etc), Composite monitor, Digital Film card will set you back about $20,000. For you video cowboys and girls, this system will not output at a quality that will satisfy most of your clients. Even though you can perform more effects than a toasterhead can imagine, an Amiga based off-line based system will look better. We use both Macs and Amigas for our video work. Each for what each does best! Dan Snodgrass Media Services Lewis & Clark College Portland

From: [email protected] (Chris BeHanna) Subject: Re: Flashing anyone? Keywords: flashing Organization: NEC Systems Laboratory, Inc. Lines: 31 In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Robert D Castro) writes: >Hello all, > >On my bike I have hazard lights (both front and back turn signals >flash). Since I live in NJ and commute to NYC there are a number of >tolls one must pay on route. Just before arriving at a toll booth I >switch the hazards on. I do thisto warn other motorists that I will >be taking longer than the 2 1/2 seconds to make the transaction. >Taking gloves off, getting money out of coin changer/pocket, making >transaction, putting gloves back on takes a little more time than the >average cager takes to make the same transaction of paying the toll. >I also notice that when I do this cagers tend to get the message and >usually go to another booth. > >My question, is this a good/bad thing to do? This sounds like a VERY good thing to do. >Any others tend to do the same? I will now, whenever I don't have my handy-dandy automatic coin fetcher/toll payer (Annette :-) with me. Thanks for the tip. Later, -- Chris BeHanna DoD# 114 1983 H-D FXWG Wide Glide - Jubilee's Red Lady [email protected] 1975 CB360T - Baby Bike Disclaimer: Now why would NEC 1991 ZX-11 - needs a name agree with any of this anyway? I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs.

From: [email protected] (Chris Steinbroner) Subject: Re: BMW MOA members read this! Reply-To: Chris Steinbroner <[email protected]> Nntp-Posting-Host: hesh.cup.hp.com Organization: HP-UX Kernel Lab, Cupertino, CA X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9.1] Lines: 18 Wm. L. Ranck ([email protected]) wrote: : As a new BMW owner I was thinking about signing up for the MOA, but : right now it is beginning to look suspiciously like throwing money : down a rathole. i concur with this. the politics and bickering going on has ruined BMWMOA to me. because of the politics and fighting, i'm i'm going to let my current membership lapse when it's up for renewal. -- hesh p.s. BMWRA's On The Level is a far superiour publication in my opinion.

From: [email protected] (Dan Johnson) Subject: Re: "Accepting Jeesus in your heart..." Reply-To: [email protected] Organization: not Sun Microsystems Lines: 95 In article [email protected], [email protected] (Jayne Kulikauskas) writes: >[email protected] (Eric Molas) writes: > >> Firstly, I am an atheist. I am not posting here as an immature flame >> start, but rather to express an opinion to my intended audience. >[deleted] >> >> We are _just_ animals. We need sleep, food, and we reproduce. And we >> die. I don't meant to defend Eric Molas- I find it somewhat annoying when someone pops up on alt.atheism to tell us all about his (usually atheistic) beliefs, so I can certainly see how Christians might be annoyed- but I'd like to point out a few things. >I am glad that I am not an atheist. It seems tragic that some people >choose a meaningless existence. "no meaning from God" is not the same as "no meaning". From my (atheistic) point of view, if you want meaning in your life, you get to go and get some or make some. No free gifts of meaning. (I never quite understood how any God can just "give" your life meaning, actually. If he says you exists to do or be X, that gives you a purpose if you care to accept it, but is that the same thing? But I digress...) > How terrible to go on living only >because one fears death more than life. This would truely be a miserably existance, which I doubt Eric endures. Life can be enjoyable, so you can live it because you like it, or purposefull, so you can live it to get something done. One should endeavour to make it so, if it is not. Otherwise it would be as you say. Terrible. > I feel so sorry for Eric and >yet any attempts to share my joy in life with him would be considered as >further evidence of the infectious nature of Christianity. Probably true. Remeber he almost certainly sees that particular joy as an illusion, and does not want it. So maybe it isn't so bad? >As a Christian I am free to be a human person. I think, love, choose, >and create. As an atheist, I am free to be a human person. I think, love, choose, and create. > I will live forever with God. Ah, now here we begin to diverge. I will not live forever with anyone. (I don't think you will either, but you are welcome to your opinion on the matter.) >Christ is not a kind of drug. I tend to agree with you. It's my opinion that (unlike drugs) religions are normal parts of human societies. I think they have outlived their usefullness, but they are evidently quite ordinary, normal things that haven't proved lethal to humanity yet. > Drugs are a replacement for Christ. >Those who have an empty spot in the God-shaped hole in their hearts must >do something to ease the pain. I have heard this claim quite a few times. Does anybody here know who first came up with the "God-shaped hole" business? > This is why the most effective >substance-abuse recovery programs involve meeting peoples' spiritual >needs. You might want to provide some evidence next time you make a claim like this. >Thank you, Eric for your post. It has helped me to appreciate how much >God has blessed me. I hope that you will someday have a more joy-filled >and abundant life. I don't know Eric, but I do not think it is wise to assume he has a less joy-filled and abundant life because he holds certain beliefs. --- - Dan Johnson And God said "Jeeze, this is dull"... and it *WAS* dull. Genesis 0:0 These opinions probably show what I know.

From: [email protected] (Hot Young Star) Subject: Re: Why not concentrate on child molesters? Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA Lines: 24 In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Clayton Cramer) writes: >In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Hot Young Star) writes: >>When are you going to admit that the data you presented show >>just this---that only about 3% of child molesters are gay, and thus are >>NOT overrepresented with respect to the general incidence of homosexuality? >When someone can show something besides a Redbook article. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this irrelevant? Either the data shows something, or it doesn't. Regardless of what other studies show. Admit it. What you SHOWED to us doesn't prove that gay men are more likely to be molesters. Brian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kane@{buast7,astro}.bu.edu (Hot Young Star) Astronomy Dept, Boston University, Boston, MA 02215. True personal salvation is achieved by absolute faith in ones true self. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

From: [email protected] (Kent Sandvik) Subject: Re: Slavery (was Re: Why is sex only allowed in marriage: ...) Organization: Cookamunga Tourist Bureau Lines: 18 > Oh, this all sounds so nice! Everyone helping each other and always smiling > and fluffy bunnies everywhere. Wake up! People are just not like that. It > seems evident from history that no society has succeeded when it had to rely > upon the goodwill and unselfishness of the people. Isn't it obvious from > places like Iran that even if there are only a few greedy people in society > then they are going to be attracted to positions of power? Sounds like a > recipe for disaster. Looking at historical evidence such 'perfect utopian' islamic states didn't survive. I agree, people are people, and even if you might start an Islamic revolution and create this perfect state, it takes some time and the internal corruption will destroy the ground rules -- again. Cheers, Kent --- [email protected]. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net.

From: [email protected] (Michael Covington) Subject: Re: Radar detector DETECTORS? Nntp-Posting-Host: aisun1.ai.uga.edu Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens Lines: 9 There is or was a microwave tower next to Florida's Turnpike, and you could watch the cars hit the breaks as they came in sight of it every morning... -- :- Michael A. Covington, Associate Research Scientist : ***** :- Artificial Intelligence Programs [email protected] : ********* :- The University of Georgia phone 706 542-0358 : * * * :- Athens, Georgia 30602-7415 U.S.A. amateur radio N4TMI : ** *** ** <><

From: [email protected] (Stan Armstrong) Subject: Re: Prodigal Son Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada Lines: 18 The parable of the Prodigal Son is not about who is and who isn't an immoral person. It is about grace and the love of God. Most people would agree with that concerning the younger son. The elder son is simply a negative example of the some thing. He thinks that he must earn his father's love, that he has earned it, that he is entitled to it. His father tells him that he is on the wrong track. He has always been loved--for the same reason his brother has always been: he is his father's son. We are too performance oriented to consistently get the point. We are willing to be saved by grace, but once we are Christians we want to go back to earning and deserving. "Are you so foolish? After beginning with the Spirit, are you now trying to attain your goal by human effort?" Gal 3:3 NIV -- Stan Armstrong. Religious Studies Dept, Saint Mary's University, Halifax, N.S. [email protected] | att!clyde!watmath!water!dalcs!armstrng

From: [email protected] Subject: Re: Help! Need 3-D graphics code/package for DOS!!! Organization: Texas A&M University Lines: 32 NNTP-Posting-Host: tamvm1.tamu.edu In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Runar Jordahl) writes: > >[email protected] wrote: >: Help!! I need code/package/whatever to take 3-D data and turn it into >: a wireframe surface with hidden lines removed. I'm using a DOS machine, and >: the code can be in ANSI C or C++, ANSI Fortran or Basic. The data I'm using >: forms a rectangular grid. >: is a general interest question. >: Thank you!!!!!! I'm afraid your reply didn't get thru. I do appreciate you trying to reply, however. Please try again.

From: [email protected] (JohnC) Subject: how do you like the Apple Color OneScanner? Reply-To: [email protected] Organization: The Royal Society for Putting Things on Top of Other Things Lines: 13 We're all set to buy one of these for the office, to use for scanning in color photographs and for optical character recognition. We've played with the original grayscale OneScanner and were very pleased. Is the color model comparable in quality? Also, what brand of OCR software would you recommend? We're leaning toward Caere OmniPage. Any better ideas? Thanks. -- John Cavallino | EMail: [email protected] University of Chicago Hospitals | [email protected] Office of Facilities Management | USMail: 5841 S. Maryland Ave, MC 0953 B0 f++ w c+ g++ k+ s++ e h- p | Chicago, IL 60637

From: [email protected] (Roger A Williams) Subject: Re: Adcom cheap products? Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Lines: 27 [email protected] (Mike Donahue) writes: >I do NOT know much about Adcom Mobil Audio products, but I DO know for a fact >that ADCOM does NOT make its own "High End" Home Audio Equptment and that 80%+ >of it comes directly out of Tiawan... Like most high-volume manufacturers, Adcom has most of its PC boards assembled off-shore (in their case, mostly in the far east). Final assembly _and testing_ are done in East Brunswick. The products are, and have always been, designed entirely in the US; by their own staff and by audiophile gurus like Walter Jung. Adcom also tends to prefer American and European components over their Japanese/Far East equivalents. Off-shore assembly is one reason that Adcom is able to make products that perform as well as those from people like Audio Research and Van Alstine (and better than Hafler and Forte'), but at a much lower cost. Of course, if your musical diet consists mostly of Rock, you might prefer components from Kenwood or Pioneer... Roger Williams | "Most great discoveries are made [email protected] | by accident: the larger the consulting engineer | funding, the longer it takes to Middleborough, Mass. | have that accident."

From: [email protected] (Robert Mugele) Subject: Re: How to act in front of traffic jerks Organization: Oracle Corporation, Belmont, CA Lines: 21 In-Reply-To: [email protected]'s message of 15 Apr 93 08:54:34 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: oasun1.us.oracle.com X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user at Oracle Corporation. The opinions expressed are those of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle. In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Niels Mikkel Michelsen) writes: > The other day, it was raining cats and dogs, therefor I was going only to > the speed limit, on nothing more, on my bike. This guy in his BMW was > driving 1-2 meters behind me for 7-800 meters and at the next red light I > calmly put the bike on its leg, walked back to this car, he rolled down the > window, and I told him he was a total idiot (and the reason why). > > Did I do the right thing? Absolutely, unless you are in the U.S. Then the cager will pull a gun and blow you away. ================================================================== | Bob Mugele (Jungle Bob) | Email: [email protected] | | Senior Computational Linguist | Phone: 214-401-5875 | | Oracle Corp. | Moto: '81 GS450ES '87 Concours | | Irving, Texas | DoD#: 283 | | If vegetarians eat vegetables, beware of the humanitarians | | --Dr. Bob | ==================================================================

From: [email protected] (Daniel Zappala) Subject: Re: Darrrrrrrrryl Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Lines: 31 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu Mark Singer brings up the Strawberry Incident, where he lost a homerun and the fan caught it. |> Before each Dodger game the public address announcer makes a speech |> wherein he says that fans are welcome to the souvenirs of balls that |> are hit into the stands as long as they do not interfere with any |> that are in the field of play. Was the fan wrong? Should he have |> been more aware of the situation and acted to avoid any possibility |> of interference? Yes, I think he should have done more to get out of the way. As much as fans want to catch a ball, they really should be aware that winning the game is more important. As a Dodger fan, he has to be aware that this is the home stadium, and that entails helping the home team win in any way possible. As soon as the ball was hit that far, his first instinct should be to root for Darryl to catch it, not to try to catch it himself, particularly when he is sitting that close. I enjoy the attitude of the Wrigley fans, where they are against visiting team home runs so much, they actually throw them back on the field. Now, this has nothing to do with whether Darryl could have caught it or not. Sure, he probably screwed up, but the fan should realize his first responsibility is to get out of the way and help the team win. Daniel [email protected]

From: [email protected] (Vesselin Bontchev) Subject: Re: Secret algorithm [Re: Clipper Chip and crypto key-escrow] Keywords: encryption, wiretap, clipper, key-escrow, Mykotronx Reply-To: [email protected] Organization: Virus Test Center, University of Hamburg Lines: 22 [email protected] (David Sternlight) writes: > Nothing I'm doing would be of the slightest interest to President Nixon . A typical example of seep-minded thinking. We all know that David Sternlight is a jerk, but I'm afraid that in this case 90% of the population will think like him. Realize it guys - NSA, Dorothy Denning, and the US government have already won the battle... Unless... unless you succeed to wake up the people... but nah, that's too unlikely... The events are happening too fast, cryptography is a too sophisticated issue, and almost nobody cares anyway... A few thousand of net.readers won't make the difference, if millions are caught asleep... Too sad... :-((((( Regards, Vesselin -- Vesselin Vladimirov Bontchev Virus Test Center, University of Hamburg Tel.:+49-40-54715-224, Fax: +49-40-54715-226 Fachbereich Informatik - AGN < PGP 2.2 public key available on request. > Vogt-Koelln-Strasse 30, rm. 107 C e-mail: [email protected] D-2000 Hamburg 54, Germany

From: [email protected] (matthew militzok) Subject: 1992 - 1993 FINAL NHL PLAYER STATS Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY Lines: 8 If you are interested in receiving the final player stats for the 1992-1993 NHL Season as well as playoff box scores, stats and scores/updates... then e-mail my stat server [email protected] the subject of the message must be: STATS

From: [email protected](Michael Lurie) The Liberalizer Subject: Re: Pleasant Yankee Surprises Organization: Allegheny College Lines: 9 In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Alan Sepinwall) writes: Farr's ERA is in the > 20s or 30s, and Howe's is.....infinite. (I didn't think such > a thing was possible, but it is). Actually, according to USA today, Howe has 1 inning atttributed to him, but maybe that is incorrect. By the excellent report.

From: [email protected] (Craig Allen Lorie) Subject: Re: Thumbs up to ESPN Organization: University of Virginia Lines: 7 With everyone bitching about the hockey coverage by ESPN its almost like the Detroit-Toronto game was not televised last nite. I was just thankful to see hockey on a night that it wasn't supposed to be carried. Thanks to ESPN, no matter why they televised the game Craig

From: [email protected] (Eigil Krogh S|rensen) Subject: X-window for PC Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark Lines: 7 If a X-window package exists, that runs om PC, DOS (and maybe MS-windows) I would be very happy to hear about it. Thanx in advance. -- Eigil Krogh Sorensen

From: [email protected] (23064RFL) Subject: Testing!!! Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center Just Testing!! Distribution: usa Lines: 1

From: [email protected] (Larry L. Overacker) Subject: Re: Easter: what's in a name? (was Re: New Testament Double Stan Organization: Shell Oil Lines: 36 In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Daniel Segard) writes: > That argument would be more compelling if it were not for the >Ishtar eggs and Ishtar bunnies. Why mix pagan fertility symbols from the >worship of the pagan goddess of fertility with Biblical belief? What >would really be lost if all of you were to just drop the word "Easter" and >replace all such occurances with "Resurrection Sunday"? Would you not >show up for services if they were called "Resurrection Sunday Services" >rather than "Easter Services"? There is another way to view this. The True Celebration is Easter, the Resurrection of Our Lord. This has been true from the foundation of the world. Pagan practices are then either: 1. foreshadowings of the True Celebration of the Resurrection, in which dim light was shone forth so that people would recognize the full truth when it was manifested, OR 2. satanic counterfeits intended to deceive us so that we would not recognize the truth when it was manifested. I don't believe the second argument, because I believe in the power of the Resurrection, the fulfillment of the Incarnation, and our hope. Earlier or parallel ideas in other religions clearly are dim images of the truth of the Resurrection. As Paul states, we see through a glass darkly. So do others. It serves no purpose arguing about who has the darker or lighter glass. The foreshadowings are not perfect. So what? Our understnding of God is today imperfect, for we are not yet perfected. Theosis is not a gift such that WHAM, we're perfect. Larry Overacker ([email protected]) -- ------- Lawrence Overacker Shell Oil Company, Information Center Houston, TX (713) 245-2965 [email protected]

From: [email protected] (Spaceman) Subject: 512K VRAM for Sale- LC or LCII Nntp-Posting-Host: branford-college-node.net.yale.edu Organization: Yale U. Lines: 11 I have a 512k VRAM chip for sale. Worked fine in my LCII and will give 256 colors on 640 x 480 size screen. Asking $50. I'll cover postage. Speaking of which, does anyone know what the best way to send a chip is. I have a plastic antistatic sleeve, but what's the best way to send it? In an envelope? First class? All info appreciated. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bill "Spaceman" Lee P.O. Box 532, Yale Station New Haven, CT 06520-0532 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Subject: Re: Gospel Dating From: [email protected] (Robert Knowles) Organization: Kupajava, East of Krakatoa In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Nntp-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: PSILink-DOS (3.3) Lines: 22 >DATE: Mon, 5 Apr 1993 16:30:50 GMT >FROM: Stilgar <[email protected]> > >In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Keith M. >Ryan) writes: >> In article <[email protected]> >[email protected] (Stilgar) writes: >> >> >THE ILLIAD IS THE UNDISPUTED WORD OF GOD(tm) *prove me wrong* >> >> I dispute it. >> >> Ergo: by counter-example: you are proven wrong. > > I dispute your counter-example > > Ergo: by counter-counter-example: you are wrong and > I am right so nanny-nanny-boo-boo TBBBBBBBTTTTTTHHHHH > 8^p > This looks like a serious case of temporary Islam.

From: [email protected] (George M. Brown) Subject: Re: PCX Organization: Client Specific Systems, Inc. Lines: 41 NNTP-Posting-Host: thrasher.larc.nasa.gov In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Jason Wiggle) writes: >From: [email protected] (Jason Wiggle) >Subject: PCX >Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1993 22:01:00 GMT > >Hello > HELP!!! please > I am a student of turbo c++ and graphics programming > and I am having some problems finding algorithms and code > to teach me how to do some stuff.. > > 1) Where is there a book or code that will teach me how > to read and write pcx,dbf,and gif files? > > 2) How do I access the extra ram on my paradise video board > so I can do paging in the higher vga modes ie: 320x200x256 > 800x600x256 > 3) anybody got a line on a good book to help answer these question? > >Thanks very much ! > >send reply's to : [email protected] > >Peace be >Blessed be >Stephen Palm A book that I can somewhat recommend is : Pratical Image Processing in C by Craig A. Lindley published by Wiley It addresses reading/writing to/from PCX/TIFF files; image acquisition, manipulation and storage; and has source code in the book. The source is primarily written in Turbo C and naturally has conversion possibilities. I have converted some of it to Quick C. Naturally, the code has some problems in the book - as usuall. Typos, syntax, etc. are problems. It can be a good learning experience for someone who is studying C. There is also a companion disk with source available for order and $50.00. Overall, the book is not bad. I acquired the book at WaldenSoftware.

From: [email protected] (Carter C. Page) Subject: Re: Reason vs. Revelation Organization: University of Pennsylvania Lines: 130 In article <[email protected]> trajan (Stephen McIntyre) writes: >In article <[email protected]> writes: > >> I can only reply with what it says in 1 Timothy 3:16 : >I'm not here to discount parts of the Bible. Rather, I'm > here only to discount the notion of "revelation." > The author of 1 Timothy told what he thought was the > truth, based on his belief in God, his faith in Jesus > as the resurrected Son, and his readings of the Old > Testament. But again, what had been revealed to him > was based on (at best) second-hand information, given > by friends and authors who may not have given the > whole truth or who may have exaggerated a bit. First of all, the original poster misquoted. The reference is from 2 Tim 3:16. The author was Paul, and his revelations were anything but "(at best) second-hand". "And is came about that as [Saul] journeyed, he was approaching Damascus, and suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him; and he fell to the ground, and heard a voice saying to him, "Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?" And he said, "Who art Thou, Lord?" And He said, "I am Jesus whom you are persecuting, . . ." (Acts 9:3-5, NAS) Paul received revelation directly from the risen Jesus! (Pretty cool, eh?) He became closely involved with the early church, the leaders of which were followers of Jesus throughout his ministry on earth. >Now, you may say, "The Holy Spirit revealed these things > unto him," and we could go into that argument, but > you'd be hard-pressed to convince me that the Holy > Spirit exists. I agree. I don't believe anyone but the Spirit would be able to convince you the Spirit exists. Please don't complain about this being circular. I know it is, but really, can anything of the natural world explain the supernatural? (This is why revelation is necessary to the authors of the Bible.) > Additionally, what he has written is > again second-hand info if it were given by the Spirit, > and still carries the chance it is not true. The Spirit is part of God. How much closer to the source can you get? The Greek in 2 Timothy which is sometimes translated as "inspired by God", literally means "God-breathed". In other words, God spoke the actual words into the scriptures. Many theologians and Bible scholars (Dr. James Boice is one that I can remember off-hand) get quite annoyed by the dryness and incompleteness of "inspired by God". >The only way you would be able to escape this notion of > "second-hand" info is to have had the entire Bible > written by God himself. And to tell the truth, I've > studied the Bible extensively, and have yet to > hear of scholars who have put forth objective evidence > showing God as the first author of this collection of > books. That's what the verse taken from 2 Timothy was all about. The continuity of a book written over a span of 1500 years by more than 40 authors from all walks of life is a testimony to the single authorship of God. >> And as for reason, read what it says in 1 Corinthians 1:18-31 about >> human wisdom. Basically it says that human wisdom is useless when >> compared with what God has written for our learning. >If you knew of Jesus as well as you know the Bible, you'd > realize he reasoned out the law and the prophets for > the common man. What source to you claim to have discovered which has information of superior historicity to the Bible? Certainly not Josephus' writings, or the writings of the Gnostics which were third century, at the earliest. > And though some claim Jesus was > he was human, with all of the human wisdom the > apostle Paul set out to criticize. Yet, would you not > embrace the idea that Jesus was wise? Jesus was fully God as well. That's why I'd assert that he is wise. >> I realise that you may not accept the authority of the Bible. This is >> unfortunate to say the least, because there is no other way of learning >> about God and Christ and God's purpose with the earth than reading the >> Bible and searching out its truth for yourself. > >For your information, I was raised without any knowledge of > God. By the time some of the faithful came to show me > the Word and share with me its truth, I was living > happily and morally without acknowledging the existence > of a supreme being. I have, though, read the Bible > several times over in its entirety and have studied it > thoroughly. It contains truth in it, and I consider > Jesus to be one of the most moral of human beings to > have lived (in fact, I darn-near idolize the guy.) But > there's no rational reason for me to except God's > existence. Please rethink this last paragraph. If there is no God, which seems to be your current belief, then Jesus was either a liar or a complete nut because not only did he assert that God exists, but he claimed to be God himself! (regards to C.S. Lewis) How then could you have the least bit of respect for Jesus? In conclusion, be careful about logically unfounded hypotheses based on gut feelings about the text and other scholars' unsubstantiated claims. The Bible pleads that we take it in its entirety or throw the whole book out. About your reading of the Bible, not only does the Spirit inspire the writers, but he guides the reader as well. We cannot understand it in the least without the Spirit's guidance: "For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God." (1 Cor 2:10, NAS) Peace and may God guide us in wisdom. +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-= Carter C. Page | Of happiness the crown and chiefest part is wisdom, A Carpenter's Apprentice | and to hold God in awe. This is the law that, [email protected] | seeing the stricken heart of pride brought down, | we learn when we are old. -Adapted from Sophocles +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=+-=-+-=+-=-+=-+-=-+-=-+=-+-= [Other theologians get quite annoyed at the misleadingess of "God-breathed." It's true that the Greek word has as its roots "God" and "breath". However etymology doesn't necessarily tell you what a word means. Otherwise, "goodbye" would be a religious expression (since it comes from "God be with ye"). You have to look at how the word was actually used. In this case the word is used for wisdom or dreams that come from God. But "God-breathed" is an overtranslation. --clh]

From: [email protected] (Gerald Olchowy) Subject: Re: Devils and Islanders tiebreaker???? Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department Lines: 16 In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Craig Allen Lorie) writes: >According to the hockey gurus over at ESPN, should the Islanders win tonite >the two teams will have the same record, but the Devils will be playing the >Penguins. This is because the Islanders have won the season series against >the Devils. I think the rules for deciding a tie breaker include: > >1. season series >2. goals against >3. goals for > >in this order (correct me if I'm wrong). Anyone have anything to add? > I thought it was 1) wins 2) goals for. Gerald

From: [email protected] (Jonathan Heiliger) Subject: Re: Non-Apple Mini-Docks available? Nntp-Posting-Host: bolero Reply-To: [email protected] Organization: Electric Power Research Institute X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Lines: 13 A A DeGuzman ([email protected]) wrote: > My boss is considering the purchase of a Powerbook or Duo. He is leaning > towards a 180, because of the math coprocessor (for Mathematica), but would > get a Duo if he could find a Mini-Dock with a coprocessor. Have any > third-parties announced such a beast? I believe that E-Machines might produce something of this nature. -- Jonathan Heiliger .... Electric Power Research Institute M/M & Visualization Integrator ....... 3412 Hillview Ave. Internet: [email protected] ........ Palo Alto, CA Telephone <*> [415].855.2888 ..................... 94303

From: [email protected] (Ronald W. Schmidt) Subject: outlining of spline surface Keywords: spline rasterization Lines: 38 About a year ago I started work on a problem that appeared to be very simple and turned out to be quite difficult. I am wondering if anyone on the net has seen this problem and (hopefully) some published solutions to it. The problem is to draw an outline of a surface defined by two roughly parallel cubic splines. For inputs the problem essentially starts with two sets of points where each set of points is on the edge of an object which we treat as two dimensional, i.e. only extant between the edges, but which exists in three dimensional space. To draw the object we 1) fit a cubic spline through the points. Each spline is effectively computed as a sequence of line segments approximating the curve. Each spline has an equal number of segments. We assume that the nth segment along each spline is roughly, but not exactly, the same distance along each spline by any reasonable measure. 2) Take each segment (n) along each spline and match it to the nth segment of the opposing spline. Use the pair of segments to form two triangles which will be filled in to color the surface. 3) Depth sort the triangles 4) Take each triangle in sorted order, project onto a 2D pixmap, draw and color the triangle. Take the edge of the triangle that is along the edge of the surface and draw a line along that edge colored with a special "edge color" It is the edge coloring in step 4 that is at the heart of the problem. The idea is to effectively outline the edge of the surface. The net result however generally has lots of breaks and gaps in the edge of the surface. The reasons for this are fairly complicated. They involve both rasterization problems and problems resulting from the projecting the splines. If anything about this problem sounds familiar we would appreciate knowing about other work in this area. -Thanks

From: [email protected] (Morris the Cat) Subject: Re: Ban All Firearms ! Organization: AT&T Distribution: usa Lines: 38 | Firearms tend to fall into this low dollar/pound area. | It would not be economic to smuggle them in. All production | would have to be local. There are not all that many people | who have both the skill AND motivation to assemble worthwhile | firearms from scratch. High-ranking crime figures could | obtain imported Uzis and such, but the average person, and | average thug, would be lucky to get a zip-gun - and would | pay through the nose for it. This is not borne out of reality; the old Soviet Union had a very serious domestic handgun and submachinegun trade, guns that were of commercial grade because they were produced in honest-to-goodness machineshops. Why would all production have to be local; don't we have a road system that is the envy of the world? I seem to recall incidents in the past where Chinese entreprenaurs attempted to smuggle AK-47s (semi-autos) into this country to get around import number limitations (May have been Gunweek where I read that years ago...) Any person with high-school drafting skills and vocational school machineshop training could produce a submachinegun. You talk about the average person not being able get even a zip-gun; well now, think of all that private CNC controlled machinery that is not being used for 3 shifts a day; do you think that if guns were being sold on the black market for say, $150, an enterprising mechanical engineer could be using that machinery to produce workable submachineguns for sale? After all, GUNWEEK had an article and pictures on how BATF was looking for the manufacturer of quite efficient silencers that were of commercial quality and finish. Look at it this way, 25% of the U.S. households have a handgun. Say at least half of those keep one for self-defense. You are talking a potential market of of tens of millions of people who would seek firearms for the purpose of self-preservation. Only a fool would believe that market would not be filled, regardless of government prohibitions.

From: [email protected] (Allen W. Sherzer) Subject: Re: HLV for Fred (was Re: Prefab Space Station?) Article-I.D.: iti.1993Apr6.124456.14123 Organization: Evil Geniuses for a Better Tomorrow Lines: 22 In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Josh Hopkins) writes: >>[Titan III is the cheapest US launcher on a $/lb basis] >In that case it's rather ironic that they are doing so poorly on the commercial >market. Is there a single Titan III on order? They have a few problems. The biggest technical problem is the need to find two satellites going to the same rough orbit for a luanch. They also don't show much interest in commercial launches. There is more money to be made churning out Titan IV's for the government. After all, it isn't every day you find a sucker, er, customer who thinks paying three times the commercial rate for launch services is a good idea! Allen -- +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Allen W. Sherzer | "A great man is one who does nothing but leaves | | [email protected] | nothing undone" | +----------------------71 DAYS TO FIRST FLIGHT OF DCX-----------------------+

From: [email protected] (Knight) Subject: 41M HD FORSALE OR TRADE Organization: Purdue University Computing Center Lines: 25 I have a 41M IDE HD forsale or trade. I would like to trade it if possible. HD - 41M - IDE Westren Digital - No errors or bad sectors - 13.8ms access time - 855 kilobytes per second transfer rate - working in my computer right now. LOOKING FOR IN A TRADE MAYBE - SEGA Genesis - a pair of Sub Woffers - Souround Sound Stereo/Reciever - ANY KIND OF ELECTORNIC EQUIPMENT (IF YOU HAVE ELECTORINIC EQUIPMENT I LIKE ALMOST ANY KIND OF COMPUTRER, CAR, OR HOME EQUIPMENT, -- IF YOU WANT TO MAKE AN OFFER ON A TRADE LET ME KNOW. --CD PLAYER ..ect) Please if you are interested in a trade let me know. email ------ [email protected] -

Subject: Re: Stop putting down white het males. From: [email protected] (Tree of Schnopia) Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York Nntp-Posting-Host: uhura.cc.rochester.edu Lines: 32 In <[email protected]> [email protected] (Mark Wilson) writes: >Yuri Villanueva ([email protected]) wrote: >: [email protected] (Public account) writes: >: >: > In article <[email protected]> >: > [email protected] (Tree of Schnopia) writes: >: >> In <[email protected]> >: >> [email protected] (Michael Rivero) writes: >: >> >: >>We are told, by U.S. congresswoman Barbara Jordan, that we are biologically >: >>incapable of compassion. >Personally, I doubt she said anything of the kind, but if >someone can provide the ORIGINAL quote, IN CONTEXT, WITH SOURCE >(for, ahem, cross-checking), I would we willing to agree >she is full of sh*t. Naturally, if no one can provide these >bits of data, the paraphrase listed must be disregarded, >and its poster regarded as full of sh*t. OK, so which will it be? I followed up without a thought of double-checking...if I double-checked every fact people vomited onto the table here on the net, I'd never have time to sleep. But to pass the buck to the person who originally posted that quote... ...well, Michael? Take it away! (wild applause) Drewcifer -- ----bi Andrew D. Simchik SCHNOPIA! \ ---- [email protected] TreeWater \\ / \/ "Words Weren't Made For Cowards"--Happy Rhodes

From: [email protected] (Glenn R. Stone) Subject: Re: my reply to NY Times editorial "Dear Member of the NRA" Reply-To: [email protected] Organization: The Group W Bench Lines: 32 In <[email protected]> [email protected] (John Kim) writes: >as a legal gun owner, I must disagree. Even when I don't see eye- >to-eye with the N.R.A. on a particular issue, they are the only >national group which has effectively fought for my rights to target >shoot, hunt, and protect myself from dangerous criminals. One more time. It ain't about duck hunting. It ain't about lone perps on lonely streets. It's about DEFENDING OUR RIGHTS from the *GOVERNMENT*, which has seen fit to ignore history and attempt once again to take them from us. They WILL SUCCEED if we don't do something NOW. That's why I think the NRA is a bunch of WEENIES, because they have FORGOTTEN that fundamental fact. Pardon all my shouting, but there seem to be a whole helluva lot of people on Condition White, fat, dumb, and happy, sucking that glass teat for all they're worth.... Wake up and smell the cordite, gang, they're shooting at us, and it's high time we shot back, at least with our keyboards..... my two bits' Glenn R. Stone ([email protected]) fly your flags at half staff and upside down, to mourn and protest the death of the BoR.

From: [email protected] (C. D. Tavares) Subject: Re: BATF/FBI Murders Almost Everyone in Waco Today! 4/19 Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc. Lines: 33 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: rocket.sw.stratus.com In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Kevin Vanhorn) writes: > In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Scott W Roby) writes: > > > > Two of the nine who escaped the compound said the fire was deliberately set > > by cult members. > > Correction: The *FBI* *says* that two of the nine who escaped said the fire > was deliberately set by cult members. Since the press was kept miles away, > we have absolutely no independent verification of any of the government's > claims in this matter. Moreover, the BATF has admitted having agents in the compound, and as far as I have been able to ascertain, those agents were still in the compound when the first shots were fired. For all we know, these two people may BE the agents, who would certainly be unlikely to stay around and "cook" with the faithful... Assuming the two people in question were even in the compound at all. Maybe I sound paranoid, but I watched Janet Reno last night harping on how much David Koresh was a big, bad child abuser, and I kept wondering why she -- much less BATF -- wanted us to infer that she had any jurisdiction over such accusations in the first place. I'm POSITIVE that the "sealed warrant" is not for child abuse. What was it for? Peobably weapons violations. Janet Reno didn't say WORD ONE last night about weapons violations. Why? Because she knows that such a case is no longer believable? -- [email protected] --If you believe that I speak for my company, OR [email protected] write today for my special Investors' Packet...

From: [email protected] (Keith Scott Alan) Subject: Hockey coverage Nntp-Posting-Host: assn011.cs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada Lines: 15 This is a general question for US readers: How extensive is the playoff coverage down there? In Canada, it is almost impossible not to watch a series on TV (ie the only two series I have not had an opportunity to watch this year are Wash-NYI and Chi-Stl, the latter because I'm in the wrong time zone!). We (in Canada) are basically swamped with coverage, and I wonder how many series/games are televised nationally or even locally in the US and how much precedence they take over, say, local news if the games go into double-OT. Email me so as not to waste bandwidth, please. My news feed is kind of slow anyways. l8tr

From: [email protected] (Jon Livesey) Subject: Re: An Anecdote about Islam Organization: sgi Lines: 15 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: solntze.wpd.sgi.com In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Gregg Jaeger) writes: |> |> I don't understand the point of this petty sarcasm. It is a basic |> principle of Islam that if one is born muslim or one says "I testify |> that there is no god but God and Mohammad is a prophet of God" that, |> so long as one does not explicitly reject Islam by word then one _must_ |> be considered muslim by all muslims. So the phenomenon you're attempting |> to make into a general rule or psychology is a direct odds with basic |> Islamic principles. If you want to attack Islam you could do better than |> than to argue against something that Islam explicitly contradicts. Then Mr Mozumder is incorrect when he says that when committing bad acts, people temporarily become atheists? jon.

From: [email protected] (Lee Lady) Subject: Re: Science and methodology (was: Homeopathy ... tradition?) Summary: Science is not mere methodology. Organization: University of Hawaii (Mathematics Dept) Expires: Sat, 1 May 1993 10:00:00 GMT Lines: 85 In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Russell Turpin) writes: >-*----- >I wrote: >>> ... Or, to use a phrasing that I think is more accurate, science >>> is the investigation of phenomena that avoids methods and reasoning >>> that are known to be erroneous from past foul-ups. > >In article <[email protected]> [email protected] writes: >> I can agree with this if you are talking about the less fundamental >> aspects of scientific method. ... > ... >> ... In fact, I don't see the alternative, as I don't think that the >> fundamentals are capable of experimental investigation. In saying >> this I am agreeing with the work of people like Kuhn (1970), >> Feyerabend (1981) and Lakatos (1972). > .... >While methodology cannot be subject to the same kind of "experimental >investigation," as that to which it is applied, it *can* be critically >appraised. Methodologies can be compared to each other, sometimes by >the conflicting results they produce. This kind of critical appraisal >and comparison, together with the inappropriateness of existing >methodologies for new fields of study, is what drives the evolution of >methodologies and how we think about them. As usual, you are missing the whole point, Russell, because you are not willing to even consider questionning your basic article of faith, which is that science is merely a matter of methodology and that the highest purpose of science is to avoid making mistakes. This is like saying that the most important aspect of business management is accurate bookkeeping. If science were no more than methodology and not making mistakes, it would be a poor thing indeed. What was the methodology of Darwin? What was the methodology of Einstein? What was, for that matter, the methodology of Jenner and Pasteur? In an earlier article, Russell Turpin writes: >None of the foregoing should be read as meaning that we should >open the door to practitioners of quackery and psuedo-science. >Modern advocates of homeopathy, chiropracty, and traditional >Chinese medicine receive little respect because, for the most >part, they use methods and reasoning that the kind of research >Lee Lady recommends has shown to be terribly faulty. (This does >*not* imply that all their treatments are ineffective. It *does* >imply that those who rely on faulty methodology and reasoning are >incapable of discovering *which* treatments are effective and >which are not.) First of all, I think you are arguing against a straw man, because I don't think that anyone here is arguing that quackery, pseudo-science, homeopathy, chiropracty, and traditional Chinese medicine should be accepted as science. I, in particular, think the basic ideas of homeopathy and chiropracty seem extremely flaky. What some of us do believe, however, is that some of these things (including some of the flaky ideas) are deserving of serious scientific attention. If in fact it were true, as you have stated above, that those who do not use the currently fashionable methodology can have no idea what is effective and what is not, then science today would not exist. For all of current science is based on the past work of scientists whose methodology, by current standards, was seriously flawed. It is certainly true that as methodology improves, we need to re-examine those results derived in the past using less perfect methodologies. It is also true that the results obtained by people today who still rely on those early methodologies needs to be re-examined in a more rigorous fashion by those qualified to do so credibly. But to say that nobody who fails to do elaborate double-blind studies is capable of knowing their ass from a hole in the ground and to say that no ideas that come from outside the scientific establishment could possibly be worthy of serious investigation ... this truly marks one's attitude as doctrinaire, cultist. This attitude is not compatible with a belief in reason. -- In the arguments between behaviorists and cognitivists, psychology seems less like a science than a collection of competing religious sects. [email protected] [email protected]

From: [email protected] (martin johnson) Subject: Hi Volt from battery Keywords: capacitive discharge Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 13 I need a small battery powered hi voltage capacitive discharge supply to deliver ~6 joules at 250 volts. This implies a 200uf cap. I have built a very satisfactorily operating version from a MAX641, but do not like the idea of using a $6 single source part. It seems that the ubiquitous camera flash circuit is what I want, but I cant get mine apart without breaking it. I would appreciate receiving the circuit description or a source of one. I have already looked in several electronics circuits handbooks to no avail. Thanx -- ______________________________________________ | martin johnson [email protected] | | "mind your business", on first US coin | |____________________________________________|

From: [email protected] (James R. Skinner) Subject: Re: Paxil (request) Organization: Acadia University Lines: 15 [email protected] (James R. Skinner) writes: > > I have seen a couple of postings refering to an SRI called paxil. I >have been on Prozac for a number of years and recently switched to Zolf. I >have seen a bit of comparsion of Prozac to Paxil but none on Zolft to Prozac >Can some one enlight me on the differences/ side effect profile/ etc... does anyone know? -- -----------------------------------+-------------------------------------------- James Robie Skinner | Jodrey School of Computer Science [email protected] | Acadia University, Wolfville, NS, Canada -----------------------------------+--------------------------------------------

From: [email protected] (Gopal Venkatraman) Subject: question regarding overlaying of graphics Article-I.D.: flop.1r5f7lINNj71 Distribution: world Organization: Computer Science Department, Oregon State University Lines: 32 NNTP-Posting-Host: grace.cs.orst.edu Hello... I wonder if some one can suggest an answer to the following question: I am a total X novice and would appreciate any suggestions you may have. I am trying to create a simple drawing tool.... __________ | | | ___|___ |_____|__| | | | |_____| Let's say I have two rectangles on the canvas(see above) one intersecting the other... Now, I would like to delete one of the rectangles. The way I do it is to create another GC wherein I use the GXxor logical function and simply redraw the rectangle using the newly created graphics context thus deleting it for all apparent purposes. A problem with this approach is that at the points of intersection the pixel locations belonging to the other rectangle also become white, which is something that should be avoided. Is there any way I can avoid this problem without having to redraw the other rectangle too? I also would not like to generate an expose event for the affected area as this degrades performance very badly... Thank you... Gopal

From: [email protected] (Derek A. Piasecki) Subject: Re: Ami Pro 3.0 and PCTools compress?!? Doesn't like being moved? Keywords: Ami Pro 3.0 PCTools compress Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711 Lines: 13 Sorry about that - don't want to alarm anyone... I don't think there is any correlation between the crashes and PCTools. I reinstalled Ami Pro, and ran compress again, with no problems. I think problems may have been related to filling my disk until it had 0 bytes (!) left while FTPing, although I would think it wouldn't matter since Ami Pro wasn't running at the time, and I made space available immediately anyways. But, whatever, the cause, it is working now. -Derek

From: [email protected] (Michelle Kao) Subject: 4 4MB simms for sale(30 pin, 80ns, for Mac) Organization: Purdue University Lines: 2 $400included shipping

From: [email protected] (Chris Black) Subject: cystic breast disease Organization: Sybase, Inc. Lines: 18 My mom has just been diagnosed with cystic breast disease -- a big relief, as it was a lump that could have been cancer. Her doctor says she should go off caffeine and chocolate for 6 months, as well as stopping the estrogen she's been taking for menopause-related reasons. She's not thrilled with this, I think especially because she just gave up cigarettes -- soon she won't have any pleasures left! Now, I thought I'd heard that cystic breasts were common and not really a health risk. Is this accurate? If so, why is she being told to make various sacrifices to treat something that's not that big of a deal? Thanks for any information. -- Chris -- [email protected] Note: My mailer tends to garble subject lines.

Subject: Re: islamic authority over women From: [email protected] (Keith M. Ryan) Organization: Case Western Reserve University NNTP-Posting-Host: b64635.student.cwru.edu Lines: 29 In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Simon Clippingdale) writes: >For the guy who said he's just arrived, and asked whether Bobby's for real, >you betcha. Welcome to alt.atheism, and rest assured that it gets worse. >I have a few pearls of wisdom from Bobby which I reproduce below. Is anyone >(Keith?) keeping a big file of such stuff? Sorry, I was, but I somehow have misplaced my diskette from the last couple of months or so. However, thanks to the efforts of Bobby, it is being replenished rather quickly! Here is a recent favorite: -- "Satan and the Angels do not have freewill. They do what god tells them to do. " S.N. Mozumder ([email protected]) -- "Satan and the Angels do not have freewill. They do what god tells them to do. " S.N. Mozumder ([email protected])

From: [email protected] (Tracy Brian Harton) Subject: Wireless Transmitter/Receivers at RS Organization: Rice University Lines: 12 Does anyone know what frequencies the wireless transmitter/receiver microphone systems that Radio Shack sells operate at? I've tried everything short of opening one up (not actually owning one makes this difficult...) and just looking.. Any help would be greatly appreciated.. These systems are designed for wireless PA systems, etc.. Thanks, Tracy

From: [email protected] (Paul Martz) Subject: Re: Animation with XPutImage()? Nntp-Posting-Host: bambam Reply-To: [email protected] (Paul Martz) Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT Lines: 28 In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Derek C. Richardson) writes: > Hi, I'm new to this group so please bear with me! > > Two years ago I wrote a Sunview application for fast animation > of raster files. With Sunview becoming rapidly obselete, I've > finally decided to rewrite everything from scratch in XView. > I put together a quick test, and I've found that XPutImage() > is considerably slower (factor of 2 on average?) than the > Sunview command pw_rop() which moves image data from memory > pixrects to a canvas. This was on a Sparc IPX. It seems that: > (1) the X protocol communication is slowing things down; or > (2) XPutImage is inefficient...or both! Using XPutImage, your source is maintained by the client and the destination is maintained by the server, thus you incur the overhead of transporting through whatever client-server communications mechanism you are using. Is it possible for you to maintain your source images in pixmaps? These are maintained by the server, so copying them into a window is much cheaper. Also make sure you are not sending any unnecessary XSyncs, or running in XSynchonize mode. -- -paul [email protected] Evans & Sutherland

From: [email protected] (Dave Medin) Subject: Re: Shipping costs Reply-To: [email protected] Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville AL Lines: 71 In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Kijin Jung) writes: |> |> In a previous article, [email protected] (Tom Carlino) says: |> |> >Recently I bought a musical instrument through the internet and had |> >it shipped to me via UPS ground. The shipping was done through a |> >mail box service, Mailboxes, Etc. Being somewhat surprised at the |> >price, I compared prices of shipping this way to shipping directly |> >through UPS and this is a summary. I am not making any endorsements |> >or condemnations but merely presenting the facts from which you may |> >draw your own conclusions. |> > |> |> I've encountered the same thing with Mailboxes, Etc. and I suggest |> anyone to use the original UPS service if at all possible. Shipping |> to Virginia from Cleveland was around $20 for 12 pounds, and C.O.D. |> was $8.00, as opposed to $4.50 for UPS. I'll third the opinion about this outfit/franchise. Now, when I buy over the net and pick up the shipping costs, I'll specify that I only pick up the normal UPS charges (as if delivered directly to UPS), as I've been burned by $10 shipping charges for a $2.49 pkg. I will never use a mailing service unless I don't have the right box and the buyer needs whatever IMMEDIATELY. I'll also tell the person, if they agreed to pick up shipping, what is going on. Other things to watch out for/consider: The rates are $5 to $30 higher than UPS direct. For a non-UPS (truck) package, they quoted a rate of $85. Fed Ex economy air was only $85 for the same weight! RPS (a trucking package company, in many cities) only wanted $18. Guess who got it. The Mailbox operator told me I was not telling the truth about competitors' rates, said RPS was unreliable (I've used them before with NO problems), etc. Right. A COD check goes to the mailing service. Our local Mailbox then takes its sweet time mailing me the remade check. All this for an additional $3.00 over the UPS COD charge. What a deal.... :-) For packages over $100, they charge you about double over what UPS charges them for insurance. I've never had a claim, but other netters (is Ralph Seguin out there?) have told horror stories about them... All package traces have to be done through Mailbox by Mailbox. Our local Mailbox operator told me I was lying when I asked him why their rates were stratospheric compared to direct UPS. Does he ever check? Probably not... Their UPS ground rates come close to Fed Ex's economy air rate, and Fed Ex will pick up! UPS will pick up for a $5 charge in most areas! -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Medin Phone: (205) 730-3169 (w) SSD--Networking (205) 837-1174 (h) Intergraph Corp. M/S GD3004 Internet: [email protected] Huntsville, AL 35894 UUCP: ...uunet!ingr!b30!catbyte!dtmedin ******* Everywhere You Look (at least around my office) ******* * The opinions expressed here are mine (or those of my machine)

From: [email protected] (Suraj Surendrakumar) Subject: ===> 10 MONTH OLD POLK SPEAKERS FOR SALE <== Organization: The Johns Hopkins University CS Department Distribution: usa Lines: 17 *** 10 MONTH OLD POLK SYSTEM FOR SALE *** Excellent condition 10 month old (proof available) Polk Monitor 4.6 bookshelf speakers are being offered for sale. The are excellent, and sound great. I am going for a higher model. So I need to sell these speakers. I paid $250 for the pair of bookshelf speakers. I am willing to consider the best offer. Send me your offers. E-mail: [email protected]. Also have excellent condition Luxman receiver R-351 and Onkyo tape deck TA-RW404 for sale. Both are in excellent condition and just 10 months old. Makes an excellent system. Paid $950 for receiver, tape deck and speakers 10 months back, will consider the best offer. Each piece will be sold seperately if wanted. E-mail best offer to [email protected] -Suraj

From: [email protected] (Carlos Dominguez) Subject: Re: Can I Change "Licensed To" Data in Windows 3.1? Reply-To: [email protected] Organization: HELLDIVER USENET node, Brooklyn, New York, USA Lines: 17 X-Newsreader: Helldiver 1.07 (Waffle 1.64) In <[email protected]> [email protected] () writes: >Have you tried re-installing the software? Otherwise I would be dubious about >simple ways to change that screen. Is it not designed to be an embarassment to >would be pirates? so when is PRODIGY going to open the doors for inetgate to accept internet mail eh? obviously if you can post news, mail should go through as well.. -- ___ ___ __ . ___ __ // Carlos Dominguez - SysAdmin / Kibbitzer / /__/ /_ ) / / / /_ // | [email protected] (__ ( / / \ (__ (__/ __/ .. | [email protected] carlos!carlos (bang)

From: [email protected] (Brian M. Huey) Subject: Krillean Photography Originator: [email protected] Organization: University of Nevada at Las Vegas, College of Engineering Lines: 20 I think that's the correct spelling.. I am looking for any information/supplies that will allow do-it-yourselfers to take Krillean Pictures. I'm thinking that education suppliers for schools might have a appartus for sale, but I don't know any of the companies. Any info is greatly appreciated. In case you don't know, Krillean Photography, to the best of my knowledge, involves taking pictures of an (most of the time) organic object between charged plates. The picture will show energy patterns or spikes around the object photographed, and depending on what type of object it is, the spikes or energy patterns will vary. One might extrapolate here and say that this proves that every object within the universe (as we know it) has its own energy signature. -- _D_I_S_C_L_A_I_M_E_R_: I can neither confirm nor deny any opinions expressed in this article directly reflect my own personal or political views and furthermore, if they did, I would not be at liberty to yield such an explanation of these alleged opinions.

From: [email protected] Subject: General questions on software and hardware... Distribution: usa Organization: Milwaukee School Of Engineering, Milwaukee, WI USA Lines: 18 I have just been introduced to Macintosh systems. I have a few questions. E-mail prefered. 1) Just what is System 7? I want hard details not dingy commercials like their ads in magazines... 2) Has anyone used the Microsoft Office 3.0? I would like suggestions on, and descriptions on: * each has a microsoft before the actual name. a) *Word 5.1: b) *Excel 4.0: c) *Power Point: d) *Mail 3.1 3) What is the major differences between Mac Wordperfect and Word? Thanks a lot!

From: [email protected] (Andy Woodward) Subject: Re: Protective gear Organization: University College of Wales, Aberystwyth Lines: 19 Nntp-Posting-Host: 144.124.112.30 In article <[email protected]> [email protected] writes: >In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Norman Hamer) writes: >> What protective gear is the most important? I've got a good helmet (shoei >> rf200) and a good, thick jacket (leather gold) and a pair of really cheap >> leather gloves... What should my next purchase be? Better gloves, boots, >> leather pants, what? IF you can remember to tuck properly, the bits that are going to take most punishment with the gear you have will probably be your feet, then hips and knees. Get boots then trousers. The gloves come last, as long as you've the self control to pull your arms in when you tuck. If not, get good gloves first - Hands are VERY easily wrecked if you put one down to steady your fall at 70mph!! The other bits heal easier. Once you are fully covered, you no longer tuck, just lie back and enjoy the ride. Best of all, take a mean of all the contradictory answers you get.

From: [email protected] (Operator) Subject: Photo shop scanner? Nntp-Posting-Host: admin Reply-To: [email protected] Organization: nCUBE Corp., Foster City, CA Lines: 23 I have a Macc IIci and a Color scanner. I scanned a picture at 600 dpi. When I try to print it on my HP500 color printer, after 10 minutes of making noise, the mac hangs. I would need to reboot it. What does this mean? Do I need to buy more memory? I have 5.0 MB now. I also have about 50 MB of disk free, and the scanned picture is about 12 MB. --- ^~ @ * * Captain Zod... _|/_ / [email protected] |-|-|/ 0 /| 0 / | \=======&==\=== \===========&===

From: [email protected] (Gordon Banks) Subject: Re: Helium non-renewable?? (was: Too many MRIs?) Reply-To: [email protected] (Gordon Banks) Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science Lines: 18 In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Russell Turpin) writes: >-*---- >How does the helium get consumed? I would have thought that failure >to contain it perfectly would result in its evaporation .. back into >the atmosphere. Sounds like a cycle to me. Obviously, it takes >energy to run the cycle, but I seriously doubt that helium consumption >is a resource issue. > It's not a cycle. Free helium will escape from the atmosphere due to its high velocity. It won't be practical to recover it. It has to be mined. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and [email protected] | it is shameful to surrender it too soon." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [email protected] (John Ioannidis) Subject: Re: Source of random bits on a Unix workstation Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science Lines: 32 In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Bennett Todd @ Salomon Brothers Inc., NY ) writes: > >I heard about this solution, and it sounded good. Then I heard that folks >were experiencing times of 30-60 seconds to run this, on >reasonably-configured workstations. I'm not willing to add that much delay >to someone's login process. My approach (etherfind|compress, skip 10K) takes >a second or two to run. I'm considering writing the be-all and end-all of >solutions, that launches the MD5, and simultaneously tries to suck bits off >the net, and if the net should be sitting __SO__ idle that it can't get 10K >after compression before MD5 finishes, use the MD5. This way I could have >guaranteed good bits, and a deterministic upper bound on login time, and >still have the common case of login take only a couple of extra seconds. > 53 seconds to hash 20M of core (I bet I know who the source of your information is!). No, it's not acceptable if it's part of your login process. But if you are going to use network traffic as the source of pseudo-random information, do the right thing and pass it through a cryptographic hash function, not a compressor. Aside from the fact that it will run faster, it will give better results (think of a cryptographic hash as a function that "distills" randomness). Something along the lines of etherfind -t -x -n | dd bs=1k count=10 2>/dev/null | md5 should do the trick. -t gives you timestamps, and the lack of -u makes sure that dd does not get ten lines as opposed to ten K. The above takes a couple of seconds on a lightly-loaded ethernet. >-Bennett >[email protected] /ji

From: [email protected] (Jonathan Bruce Hacker) Subject: Re: Auto air conditioning without Freon Article-I.D.: gap.1qnb5rINN281 Distribution: usa Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu [email protected] (Mark Monninger) writes: >In article <[email protected]> >[email protected] (Chris BeHanna) writes: >> ... >> Several chemists already have come up with several substitutes for >> R12. You don't hear about them because the Mobile Air Conditioning >Society >> (MACS), that is, the people who stand to rake in that $300 to $1000 per >> retrofit per automobile, have mounted an organized campaign to squash >those >> R12 substitutes out of existence if not ban them altogether (on very >shaky >> technical grounds, at best, on outright lies at worst). >> ... >Now, I'm not saying you're wrong because I know that the R-12 substitutes >exist, but this sounds a lot like the 200mpg carbs that the oil companies >keep us all from getting. These substitutes exist, and at this time are available. Its the future availability that is in doubt. 1) GHG-12 Get it from People's Welding Supply 800-382-9006 2) butane/propane You can mix this yourself so no one can ever regulate it away. Just make sure you use good quality (dry) gases. I don't know of any 200mpg carb distributors :-) -- Jon Hacker | Get the OS/2 2.1 March Beta CD-ROM Caltech, Pasadena CA | for $20 --- Call 1-800-3-IBM-OS2 [email protected] | Read about it in comp.os.os2.beta

From: [email protected] (Pat) Subject: Re: space food sticks Organization: Express Access Online Communications USA Lines: 9 NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net Keywords: food dillon comments that Space Food Sticks may have bad digestive properties. I don't think so. I think most NASA food products were designed to be low fiber 'zero-residue' products so as to minimize the difficulties of waste disposal. I'd doubt they'd deploy anything that caused whole sale GI distress. There aren't enough plastic baggies in the world for a bad case of GI disease. pat

From: [email protected] (Ernest Smith) Subject: Re Aftermarket A/C units Originator: ernie@ferris Lines: 34 Nntp-Posting-Host: ferris.cray.com Organization: Cray Research, Inc. Distribution: usa >In article <[email protected]> Andrew Brandt writes: >|> I looked into getting a/c installed on my 1987 Honda CRX Si. >|> The unit is $875 plus shipping, installation is like 5 1/2 hours on >|> top of that. This is a hunk of change. >|> >|> Does anyone know *any* place that does aftermarket a/c installation >|> (not with a Honda a/c unit, but some third party unit). >|> >|> I cannot seem to find anyone who can put a third party a/c unit in a >|> Honda. I am in No Carolina, so I would prefer some place nearby, but >|> any references would be handy. >|> >|> Thx, Andy ([email protected]) > Les Bartel's comments: >>>Sorry I can't help you with your question, but I do have a comment to >make concerning aftermarket A/C units. I have a Frost-King or Frost-Temp >(forget which) aftermarket unit on my Cavalier, and am quite unhappy with >it. The fan is noisy, and doesn't put out much air. I will never have >an aftermarket A/C installed in any of my vehicles again. I just can't >trust the quality and performance after this experience. >> > - les > >-- >Les Bartel I'm going to live forever Let me add my .02 in. I had a A/C installed by the Ford garage and it did not work as well as the A/C that was installed by the factory in pickups identical to mine. I have talked to other people that have had the same result. Don't know if this is just a problem with Ford or what?? Ernie Smith

From: [email protected] (Bob Blackshaw) Subject: Re: Tieing Abortion to Health Reform -- Is Clinton Nuts? Organization: Corporation for Open Systems Distribution: na Lines: 44 In <[email protected]> [email protected] (Simon E. Booth) writes: >In article <bob1.734020014@cos> [email protected] (Bob Blackshaw) writes: >>In <[email protected]> [email protected] (J H Woodyatt) writes: >> >>>[email protected] (Simon E. Booth) writes: >>># [email protected] (Kent Sandvik) writes: >>># >We already kill people (death penalty), and that costs even more >>># >money, so you could as well complain about this extremely barbaric >>># >way of justice. >>># >>># But the death penalty is right. >>># >>># And how expensive can an execution be? I mean, I think rope, cyanide >>># (for the gas), or the rifles and ammunition to arm firing squads are >>># affordable. >>># >>># Now, perhaps lethal injection might be expensive, in that case, let's >>># return to the more efficient methods employed in the past. >> >>>Oh, sure, the death *penalty* is fairly inexpensive, but the trial and >>>sentencing can run millions. >> >>That's assuming our attack puppy is willing to grant people trials in >>his new order. >And why the hell would I waste my time doing that?? >(to a convicted criminal getting a death sentence) >'Go directly to Hell, do not pass go, do not collect $200' >(judge laughing) Hey puppy, you are getting further around the bend every day. But I wouldn't miss your adolescent ravings for the world, everyone needs a good laugh now and then. :-) >Simon TOG

From: [email protected] (Dr. John S. Eickemeyer) Subject: Re: Sphere from 4 points? Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, Singapore. Lines: 37 In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Edward Bolson) writes: >Boy, this will be embarassing if it is trivial or an FAQ: >center and radius, exactly fitting those points? I know how to do it >for a circle (from 3 points), but do not immediately see a >straightforward way to do it in 3-D. I have checked some >geometry books, Graphics Gems, and Farin, but am still at a loss? >Please have mercy on me and provide the solution? Off the top of my head, I might try: Given: p_1, p_2, p_3, p_4 Find: p_c (center of sphere determined by p_1, ..., p_4), dist(p_c, p_i) (radius) p_c is the same distance from our four points, so dist(p_c,p_1) = dist(p_c,p_2) = dist(p_c,p_3) = dist(p_c,p_4) Of course, we can square the whole thing to get rid of square roots: distsq(p_c,p_1) = distsq(p_c,p_2) = distsq(p_c,p_3) = distsq(p_c,p_4) Plug in the variables into the distance formula, simplify, and the x^2_c, y^2_c, and z^2_c terms cancel out, leaving you with three linearly independent equations and three unknowns (x_c, y_c, z_c). Solve using your favorite method. :) All the best, - John :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. John S. Eickemeyer :: "The Lord God is subtle, Information Technology Institute :::: but malicious He is not." National Computer Board, Singapore :: Email: [email protected] :: - Albert Einstein -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Re: Concerning God's Morality (long) From: [email protected] (John A. Johnson) <[email protected]><[email protected]> Organization: Penn State University Lines: 48 In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] responds to a lot of grief given to him >In article <[email protected]>, >[email protected] (Scott Compton) a.k.a. "The Sagemaster" [ . . .] >But then I ask, So? Where is this relevant to my discussion in >answering John's question of why? Why are there genetic diseases, >and why are there so many bacterial and viral diseases which require >babies to develop antibodies. Is it God's fault? (the original >question) -- I say no, it is not. Most of Scotty's followup *was* irrelevant to the original question, but this is not unusual, as threads often quickly evolve away from the original topic. What I could not understand is why Jim spent so much time responding to what he regarded as irrelevancies. [ . . . ] >> May I ask, where is this 'collective' bullcrap coming from? [ . . . ] > >By "collective" I was referring to the idea that God works with >humanity on two levels, individually and collectively. If mankind >as a whole decides to undertake a certain action (the majority of >mankind), Well, I guess hypothetical Adam was "the majority of mankind" seeing how he was the ONLY man at the time. >then God will allow the consequences of that action to >affect mankind as a whole. If you didn't understand that, then I >apologize for not using one and two syllable words in my discussion. I understand what you mean by "collective," but I think it is an insane perversion of justice. What sort of judge would punish the descendants for a crime committed by their ancestor? >If you want to be sure that I read your post and to provide a >response, send a copy to [email protected]. I can't read >a.a. every day, and some posts slip by. Thanks. Well, I must admit that you probably read a.a. more often than I read the Bible these days. But you missed a couple of good followups to your post. I'm sending you a personal copy of my followup which I hope you will respond to publically in a.a. John The Sageless

From: [email protected] (John Bratt) Subject: Sandberg, Runs, RBIs (was: Re: Notes on Jays vs. Indians Series) Distribution: na Nntp-Posting-Host: crchh7a9 Organization: Bell Northern Research -- Dallas TX Lines: 26 In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Gord Niguma) writes: |> |> Alomar fans left RBI fans and Runs off this list because they are dependant |> on the team. (To a large extent). If Frank Thomas hit first, he'd lose a LOT |> of RBI's; and anyways how many 2nd place hitters have you known to drive |> in 100 runs? Doesn't happen that often.....very unlikely with Devon White's |> ~.300 OBP in front of you... I'm pretty sure that Sandberg has done this at least once. (I know someone will correct me if I'm wrong.) RBIs and Runs scored are the two most important offensive statistics. You can talk about OBP and SLG% all you want, but the fact remains: The team that scores more runs wins the game! --------------------------------------------- Flame Away -- John Bratt |> |> Gord Niguma |> (fav player: John Olerud) |>

From: [email protected] (Mark Robert Thorson) Subject: Re: Eumemics (was: Eugenics) Organization: The Portal System (TM) <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Lines: 41 A person posted certain stuff to this newsgroup, which were highly selected quotes stripped of their context. Here is the complete posting which was quoted (lacking the context of other postings in which it was made): > Probably within 50 years, a new type of eugenics will be possible. > Maybe even sooner. We are now mapping the human genome. We will > then start to work on manipulation of that genome. Using genetic > engineering, we will be able to insert whatever genes we want. > No breeding, no "hybrids", etc. The ethical question is, should > we do this? Should we make a race of disease-free, long-lived, > Arnold Schwartzenegger-muscled, supermen? Even if we can. Probably within 50 years, it will be possible to disassemble and re-assemble our bodies at the molecular level. Not only will flawless cosmetic surgery be possible, but flawless cosmetic PSYCHOSURGERY. What will it be like to store all the prices of shelf-priced bar-coded goods in your head, and catch all the errors they make in the store's favor at SAFEWAY? What will it be like to mentally edit and spell- check your responses to the questions posed by a phone caller selling VACATION TIME-SHARE OPTIONS? Indeed, we are today a nation at risk! The threat is not from bad genes, but bad memes! Memes are the basic units of culture, as opposed to genes which are the units of genetics. We stand on the brink of new meme-amplification technologies! Harmful memes which formerly were restricted in their destructive power will run rampant over the countryside, laying waste to the real benefits that future technology has to offer. For example, Jeremy Rifkin has been busy trying to whip up emotions against the new genetically engineered tomatoes under development at CALGENE. This guy is inventing harmful memes, a virtual memetic Typhoid Mary. We must expand the public-health laws to include quarantine of people with harmful memes. They should not be allowed to infect other people with their memes against genetically-engineered food, electromagnetic fields, and the Space Shuttle solid rocket boosters.

Subject: Rockies and Rangers fans, Please help me From: [email protected] (Shawn V. Hernan) Organization: University of Pittsburgh X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12 X-XXMessage-ID: <[email protected]> X-XXDate: Mon, 5 Apr 93 22:34:04 GMT Lines: 12 Greetings baseballers, I have a choice of two more or less identical conferences to attend, one in Denver, and one in Dallas, both May 24-28. Could some kind Rockies or Rangers (they DO play in the Dallas area, right?) fans please let me know if there are home dates for that week. I'd love to catch a game. Thanks, Shawn

From: [email protected] (Germano Caronni) Subject: Re: Do we need the clipper for cheap security? Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH Lines: 19 In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Graham Toal) writes: >Can someone tell me if hardware compression is or is not needed to run >digital speech down 14.4K? I think it is; I've heard it's not. Lets >say 8 bit samples. Would *raw* data at the corresponding sampling rate >be usable? If not, how fancy does the compression need to be? As far as I know ISDN (call it Swissnet here, and it's being plugged in) it's 8 bit 8000Hz (gives you one channel of 64kBit/sec) I guess you should not go below a sampling rate of 6000 Hz if you want to have same quality as on an analog-line. Anybody knows compression-algorithms & -factors for voice ? Greetings, Germano Caronni -- Instruments register only through things they're designed to register. Space still contains infinite unknowns. PGP-Key-ID:341027 Germano Caronni [email protected] FD560CCF586F3DA747EA3C94DD01720F

From: [email protected] (Ryou Seong Joon) Subject: WANTED: Multi-page GIF!! Organization: Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3 Lines: 12 Hi!... I am searching for packages that could handle Multi-page GIF files... Are there any on some ftp servers? I'll appreciate one which works on PC (either on DOS or Windows 3.0/3.1). But any package works on Unix will be OK.. Thanks in advance...

From: [email protected] (|ns-x|) Subject: Re: 300ZX or SC300??? Organization: University of Washington, Seattle Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu >[email protected] (Danny Phornprapha) writes: >>I'm getting a car in the near future. I've narrow it down to 300ZX and SC300. >>Which might be a better choice? >>Thanks for your opnion, >>Danny >I've been asking myself this same question for the past year, so, if/when >you find out, would you please share the magistic answer with me.. >The way I see it right now, work twice as hard so you can have both. >cheers :) >Issa my suggestion is: why not work twice as hard (like issa suggested above) then get acura nsx?! :) enjoy. /seb

From: [email protected] (Frank Benson) Subject: Serdar Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Lines: 5 NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu What are you stupid? --- ProLine: cosmo@pro-angmar Internet: [email protected] UUCP: uunet!bu.edu!alphalpha!pro-angmar!cosmo

From: [email protected] Subject: Seagate 125MB IDE Jumper question Nntp-Posting-Host: vaxc.isc.rit.edu Reply-To: [email protected] Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology Since the losers that sold me the hard disk for my computer are so generous, I need the info to set this drive from master to slave. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please reply via e-mail. Incidentally, avoid purchasing a computer from ACS in Endicott, NY. Jeff **************************************************************** * Four out of five electrons prefer holes for their mutual * * annhiliation needs. Boycott Sierra. Ignore anybody who * * purports to be a serious Windows user. Support new makers * * of hardware and software. Buy Canadian music. Quit smoking. * * Take up running. FM synthesis is the CGA of audio. * * [email protected] * ****************************************************************

From: [email protected] (Tom Sherwin) Subject: Re: XV under MS-DOS ?!? Organization: Periphonics Corporation Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: ablaze |> Hi ... Recently I found XV for MS-DOS in a subdirectory of GNU-CC (GNUISH). I |> use frequently XV on a Sun Spark Station 1 and I never had problems, but when I |> start it on my computer with -h option, it display the help menu and when I |> start it with a GIF-File my Hard disk turns 2 or 3 seconds and the prompt come |> back. |> |> My computer is a little 386/25 with copro, 4 Mega rams, Tseng 4000 (1M) running |> MS-DOS 5.0 with HIMEM.SYS and no EMM386.SYS. I had the GO32.EXE too... but no |> driver who run with it. |> |> Do somenone know the solution to run XV ??? any help would be apprecied.. |> You probably need an X server running on top of MS DOS. I use Desqview/X but any MS-DOS X server should do. -- XX X Technical documentation is writing 90% of the words XX X for 10% of the features that only 1% of the customers XX X actually use. XX X ------------------------------------------------------- A PC to XX X I don't have opinions, I have factual interpretations... the power XX X -Me of X XX --------------------------------------------------------- X XX ...uunet!rutgers!mcdhup!inferno!tom can be found at X XX Periphonics Corporation X XX 4000 Veterans Memorial Highway Bohemia, NY 11716 X XX ---------------------------------------------------- X XX They pay me to write, not express their opinions...