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ุงูุณุคุงู ูู ู
ุงุฐุง ูุญุฏุซ ุนูุฏู
ุง ูุฏุฎู ุงูุฃุทูุงู ุงููุตู. | the question is what happens when the children enter in classroom. |
ุฌู
ูุนูู
ูุงู ูุฑู. | all of you have been seeing . |
ูู
ูู ุฑุงุฆุน ููู
ูู ู
ุนูุฏ ุงูุชูููุฑ ูู ุงูุชุนููู
ุงูุฐู ูู
ูู ูุนููููุง ุฃู ุชูุชุฌู. | how wonderful and how complex thinking about education our minds can produce. |
ูุง ุชุฏุฑููุง ุฃูู ุนูุฏ ูุงุนุฏุฉ ูุฐุง ุงูู
ูุญูู ูููู ุชุนููู
ูู
ูุฏ ุชู
ุชุดูููู. | do not realize that at the base of this curve their education is formed. |
ุงููุฏุฑุฉ ุนูู ุชุนูู
ุฃูู
ุงุท ู
ุญุฏุฏุฉ ุฎุงุตุฉ ุฅูู ุญุฏ ู
ุง ูุฌุจ ุชุฏุฑูุณูุง ูุฐูู ููุท ุชูุฑูุจูุง. | the ability to learn certain patterns is quite specific has to be taught almost just so. |
ู
ู ุฃุฌู ุงุณุชููุงุก ุงูู
ุชุทูุจุงุช ุงูู
ุชุตูุฉ ุฌุฏูุง ุจุนูู
ุงูุฃุนุตุงุจ. ูุฐุง ุฌู
ูุนูู
ู
ู
ู ูุฌุฏูู | in order to satisfy requirements that are very close to neurology. so all of you who find |
ูุจุงูู
ูุงุณุจุฉ ุงูู
ุนูู
ูู ูุง ูุญุชุงุฌูู ุฃู ูููููุง. | and by the way the teachers do not need to be. |
ูู
ุฐู ุชุนููู
ุนุงูู ูู
ุง ููุชู
. | they are highly educated as you say. |
ุฃู ุดุฎุต ุจุงูุฃุณุงุณ ู
ุชุนูู
ูู
ููู ุงูุชุฏุฑูุณ ููุทูุงุจ ู
ู ุฎูุงู ุฃุฑุจุนุฉ ุฃู ุฎู
ุณุฉ ุฃูุดุทุฉ. | anybody basically almost literate can teach the students through four or five activities. |
ุงูุฃุณุงุณูุฉ ุงูุชู ุชูุชูู ุฎุตูุตูุง ู
ู ุทูู ูุขุฎุฑ. | that are really basic particularly going from one child to another. |
ูุฅุนุทุงุก ุจุนุถ ุงูุชุนูููุงุช ุงูุชุตุญูุญูุฉุ ุฎู
ุณ ุซูุงูู ู
ููุง. | and giving some corrective feedback, five seconds of it. |
ุงูุชู ุจุฏูููุง ูู ุงููุงูุน ูุง ูู
ูู ููุจุดุฑ ุฃู ูุชุนูู
ูุง. | which without which humans actually cannot learn. |
ููุฐุง ูู ุณุจุจ ุงูุฑูุถ ูู ูุฐู ุงููุญุธุฉ. | and this is why dismissing at this moment. |
ูุฃู ูู
ุง ุชููู ุขูู ุจุญูู
ุฉ ุดุฏูุฏุฉ. | because as Annie is saying very wisely. |
ูุฑูุฒ ุงูู
ุนูู
ูู ุนูู ุงูุฃูุถู ุฌุฏูุง. | the teachers focus on the very best. |
ูุชูุงุนููู ู
ุนูู
ุ ููุชุฌุงูููู ุฃู ุดุฎุต ุขุฎุฑ ููุณุญุจ ู
ุน ุงูููุช. | they interact with them, and they neglect everyone else who will drop out into time. |
ุจุณุจุจ ุงูู
ุนุชูุฏุงุช ุงูุฏุงุฆู
ุฉ ุฃู ุชุญุช ูุฐุง ุงููุธุงู
ูู
ูู ูููููู ุฃู ููุนูู. | because of the perennial beliefs that under this system very few can do it. |
ููู ููุน ู
ู ุชุนูู
ูู ุงููุจูุกุฉ ุชุญูู ุฐุงุชูุง. | and it is kind of you know a self-fulfilling prophecy. |
ุฃููุฏุ ุฃููุฏุ ูุฐูู ูููู ููุท ุฃูู ูู
ูููุง. | sure, sure, so we just say we can. |
ุฃุนุชูุฏ ุฃูู ูุฌุจ ุฃู ูุณู
ุญ ูุฃููุณูุง ุจุงูุงุดุชุฑุงุท. | I think we should allow ourselves to stipulate. |
ุฃู ูู 2020 ุณูููู ูุฏููุง ููุฑุจุงุก ูู ุงูู
ุฏุฑุณุฉ. | that in 2023 we will have electricity in the schoolhouse. |
ูุฃูู ุฅุฐุง ูู
ููุนู ุฐูู ุณูููู ู
ุฎุฌููุง ุชู
ุงู
ูุงุ ุฐูู ู
ุฎูุจ ููุขู
ุงู. | because if we do not that is quite shameful, that is disappointing. |
ุฏูุฑู ุขูู ููู ุณูุจุฏู ูุฐุง ุงููุธุงู
ุงูู
ุณุชูุจูู. | your turn Annie what is this future system look like. |
ู
ุงุฐุง ุณุชูุนููู ููุ ุชุบููุฑู ููุตุจุญุ | what would you do to it, change it to become? |
ุญุณููุงุ ุฃุนุชูุฏ ุฃูู ุฅุฐุง ูุฌุญูุง ูู ูุธุงู
ุงูู
ุณุชูุจู. | well, I think that if we are successful in the future system. |
ูู ูููู ููุงู ุฃู ุงุนุชูุงุฏ ุฃู ุงูุชุนููู
ุฑูุงููุฉ. | there would not be a belief that learning is a luxury. |
ูุฐุง ุณูููู ููุงู ุงุนุชูุงุฏ ุฃู ุงูุชุนููู
ููุฌู
ูุน. | so there would be a belief that learning is for all. |
ูููู ูู
ูู ุฃู ูุจุฏู ุฐูู ูู ุงูู
ุฏุฑุณุฉ ุฅุฐุง ูุงูุช ุงูู
ุฏุงุฑุณ ูุง ุชุฒุงู ู
ูุฌูุฏุฉ. | and what that may look like in the school if schools still exist. |
ุฃุนุชูุฏ ุณูููู ุงูุงููุฌุงุฑ ุงูู
ุญุชู
ู ูู
ูููู
ุงููุตู ูุงูู
ุนูู
. | I think would be an explosion possibly of the class and teacher concept. |
ูู ุตุงุฑู
ุฌุฏูุง ุงูุขู. | which is very rigid now. |
ูุฐุง ูู ูููู ูุฏููู
ููุท ู
ุนูู
ูู ููู ุฑุจู
ุง ู
ุฌุชู
ุนุ ุขุจุงุกุ ุฃุดูุงุก ุฃูุจุฑ. | so you would have not just teachers but maybe community, parents, older siblings. |
ุฃูุถูุง ู
ุดุชุฑููู ูู ู
ุณุงุนุฏุฉ ุฃูุฑุงููู
. | also involved in helping their peers. |
ูุถู
ุงู ุฃููู
ูู ูุชู
ุชุฑููู
ูู ุงูุฎูู. | and ensuring that they do not get left behind. |
ุงูุชุฏุฑูุณ ูู ุงููุตู ุงูุฏุฑุงุณู ุณูููู ู
ูุธู
ูุง. | teaching in the classroom would be organized. |
ุจูุฐู ุงูุทุฑููุฉ ุงูุฏููุงู
ูููุฉุ ุจุทุฑููุฉ ูุง ุชุชุฑู ุงูุฃุทูุงู ูู ุงูุฎูู. | in this dynamic way, in a way that children do not get left behind. |
ูุฐุง ุงูุชุฏุฑูุณ ูู ุงููุตู ุณูุชู
ุฅุนุงุฏุฉ ุชูุธูู
ู ุจุงุณุชู
ุฑุงุฑ ุญูู ูุฐุง ุงููุฏู. | so the teaching in the class would be constantly reorganized around this goal. |
ูุฃุนุชูุฏ ุฃู ูู ุงูู
ุณุชูุจู ุงูุชูููููุฌูุง ุณูุฒูุฏ ุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู
ูุง. | and I think that the future technology will be increasingly used. |
ูุชุญููู ุชูู ุงูุฃูุฏุงู. | to achieve those goals. |
ููู ู
ุง ูู ู
ูู
ููุงู ุฃุนุชูุฏ ุฃู ูุชู
ุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู
ุงูุชูููููุฌูุง ุจุดูู ุตุญูุญ. | but what is important there I think that technology is used well. |
ููุณ ููุท ุญูู ูุถุน ุฃุฌูุฒุฉ ุงููู
ุจููุชุฑ ูู ุงููุตู. | it is not just about putting computers in the classroom. |
ุฑุฃููุง ุฃู ุงูููุงู
ุจุฐูู ููุท ููุณ ูุนุงูุงู ุจู
ูุฑุฏู. | we have seen that just doing that is not effective on its own. |
ูุฌุจ ุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู
ุงูุชูููููุฌูุง ูููุญู ุงูุฃุทูุงู ุจูุง ููุง ูุชู
ุชุฑููู
ูู ุงูุฎูู. | technology should be used to have the kids catch up again so that they do not get left behind. |
ูุฐุง ุฃุนุชูุฏ ุฃู ุฐูู ูู. | so I think that is. |
ุจูุชุฑ ู
ุง ุฑุฃููุ ุชุฑููุง ุงูุณูุฏุงุช ูุชุญุฏุซู ููุชุฑุฉ. | Adama what do you think? we have let the ladies talk for a while. |
ู
ุง ุฑุฃููุ | what do you think? |
ุญุณููุงุ ุญุณููุง ุฃุนุชูุฏ ุณูุจุฏุฃ ุญูุซ ุงูุชูุช ุขูู. | well, well I think I will just take on where Annie left it. |
ูุนูู ุฃูู ุณูููู ุงูุชุตุงุฑูุง ููุชุนูู
ู
ุฏู ุงูุญูุงุฉุ ููุชุนูู
. | meaning it will be the triumph of lifelong learning, of learning. |
ููุฐุง ูุนูู ุฃู ุฅุฐุง ููู
ุช ุฃู ุชุฑููุฒูุง ูุฌุจ ุฃู ูููู ูู ุงูุชุนูู
. | and this means that if you understand that our focus has to be in learning. |
ูุฃู ู
ู ุฃุฌู ุงูุชุนูู
ุณูุญุชุงุฌ ุงูู
ูุงุฑุงุช ุงูุฃุณุงุณูุฉ ูุฐูู ุงูุชู ู
ู ุจูููุง ู
ุญู ุงูุฃู
ูุฉ. | and that for learning we would need basic skills for that among others literacy. |
ุซู
ุณูุตูุน ุงูุงุฎุชูุงู ุงูุญูููู ุจูู ู
ุญู ุงูุฃู
ูุฉ ูู ุงููุบุงุช. | then we will make the real difference between literacy in language. |
ูููู ูุนูู
ุงููุบุฉ ูููู ูููุฑ ู
ุญู ุงูุฃู
ูุฉ. | and how we teach language and how we provide literacy. |
ูู
ูุงุฑุฉ ุฃุณุงุณูุฉ ู
ุณุชุนุฑุถุฉ. | as a basic transversal skill. |
ุงูุชู ูุณุชุฎุฏู
ูุง ุฃูุถูุง ูุงูุชุณุงุจ ุฃููุงุน ุฃุฎุฑู ู
ู ุงูู
ูุงุฑุฉ. | from which we use also the acquisition for other types of skill. |
ูุฐุง ูุนูู ุฃูุถูุง ุฃู ุงููุณุทุงุกุ ุงูู
ุนูู
ูู ูููู
ูู ู
ุง ูู. | this means also that the facilitators, the teachers understand what it is. |
ููุฐู ุฑุคูุฉ ููุชุนููู
ู
ู ุฃุฌู ุงูู
ุณุชูุจูุ ูุฐุง ู
ุง ูุณู
ู ุฅุฏููุชูุจูุง. | and this is a vision for education for the future, this so called edutopia. |
ุฐูู ุนุธูู
ุ ุงูุขู ุฃูุง ุฃุทูุจ ุงูู
ุฒูุฏ ู
ู ุงูุชูุงุตููุ ููููู ูู ุฃุทูุจูุง ู
ุจุงุดุฑุฉ ุงูุขู. | that is great, now I demand more specifics, but I will not demand them right now. |
ุฃุนุชูุฏ ุฃูู ูู
ูููุง ููู ุงูู
ุฒูุฏ ู ููููู ุฐูุจุช ู
ุจูุฑูุง ุฌุฏูุง. | I think we can say a little more and Helen you were going too earlier. |
ู ุฃุฏุงู
ุง ุฃุดุฑุช ุฅููู ูุชุนููู
ุงููุจุงุฑ ุฃูุถูุง. | and Adama you have referred to it as the adult learners as well. |
ู
ุงุฐุง ูู ููุงุณุจูู ูุฐุงุ | what where do they fit in this? |
ูุญู ูู ูุชุญุฏุซ ุนู ุงูู
ุจูู ุงูุฐู ููุฌุฏ ูููุ ู
ุฏุฑุณุฉ ููุจุงูุบูู. | we are not talking about building where are we, schoolhouses for adults. |
ู
ุงุฐุง ููุนู ู
ุน ุงููุจุงุฑ ุงูุฐูู ูุญุชุงุฌูู ุฅูู ุชุญููู ุงูุฅูู
ุงู
ุจุงููุฑุงุกุฉ ูุงููุชุงุจุฉ ูุงูุญุณุงุจุ | what do we do with adults that need to achieve literacy and numeracy? |
ุญุณููุงุ ุญุณููุง ุฃูุช ุชุชุญุฏุซ ุญูู ุจุนุถ ุงูุฏูุฑุงุช ุงูุนูุงุฌูุฉ. | well, , well you are talking about some remedial courses. |
ูุญูููุฉ ุฃู ู
ุญู ุฃู
ูุฉ ุงููุจุงุฑ ูุญุชุงุฌูุง ูููู
ุฃู ููุงู ุฃู
ูุฉ ุฌููุฑูุฉ. | and the fact that adult literacy we need to understand there are core illiterate. |
ููุฐุง ูุจุฏู ุจุงูุฃุณุงุณ ุฃู ูููู ุณููุงู ูุฃูุง ุณุฃุชูู ููุง ุฃูุถูุง ู
ุน ุฒู
ูุงุฆู. | and this basically seems to be easy and I will agree also here with my colleagues. |
ุฐูู ุชูููุฑ ุงูุชุนููู
ุงูุฃุณุงุณู ูู
ุซู ูุคูุงุก ุงููุจุงุฑ ูุง ูุณุชุบุฑู ููุชูุง ุทูููุงู. | that to provide basic literacy as such to adults does not take much time. |
ูุฃูุถูุง ูู
ูู ุชุญููููุง ูู80ูช ู
ู ุงูู
ุชุนูู
ูู. | and also can be achieved for 80% of the learners. |
ุจุณูููุฉ ุชุงู
ุฉ ุฃุบูุจ ุงูุฏูู ูุงู
ุช ุจูุง. | quite easily most of the countries have done it. |
ููู ุจุนุฏ ุฐูู ุฅุฐุง ูุตูุช ุฅูู ูุฐุง ุงูู 20ูช ุงูู
ุชุจููุฉ ุงูุชุงููุฉ ุณุชููู ุฃูุฏุงู ู
ุชุญุฑูุฉ ุตุนุจุฉ. | but then if you reach this the next 20% left are difficult moving targets. |
ูุฃูุถูุง ูุฌูุฏ ุงุญุชูุงุฌุงุช ุฎุงุตุฉ ู
ุญุฏุฏุฉ ุชุญุชุงุฌ ุฅูู ุงูู
ุนุงูุฌุฉ ุฃูุถูุง. | and having also special specific needs which also need to be addressed. |
ูุชู
ุงุณุชูุฏุงููุง ุจุดูู ูุฑุฏู ุชูุฑูุจูุง. | targeted almost individually. |
ูุฐุง ู
ูุงูุฌูู
ุงูุดุงู
ูุฉ ุณุชุชุนุงู
ู ู
ุน ุงูุฃู
ูุฉ ุงูุฌู
ุงุนูุฉ. | so your mass approaches would deal with mass illiteracy. |
ููู ุนูุฏ ุชุญููู ู
ุณุชูู ุงุณุชูุฑุงุฑ ุนุงูู. | but when you achieve a high stable level. |
ุฃูุช ุจุญุงุฌุฉ ููุงูุชูุงู ุฅูู ุงูุชุนูู
ุงููุฑุฏู ูุงูุชุฏุฑูุณ. | you need to go into individualized learning and teaching. |
ุญุณููุงุ ูุนู
ุ ูุฐุง ุฃูุช ุชููู ุฃูุซุฑ ููููุงู ุญูู ุฌุฒุก ุงูุจุงูุบูู ูู ูุฐุง ุงูุณุคุงู ูุฃูู. | okay, yeah, so you say a little more about the adult part of this question because it is. |
ุดูุฑูุง ุฌุฒููุงู ูู. ูุชุคู
ู ุจุฐููุ ุฃุนุชูุฏ ุฃูู 1 ู
ููุงุฑ ุจุฏูุงู ู
ู 750 ู
ูููู. | thank you very much. to believe it, I think it is 1 billion rather than 750 million. |
ูุฃู ุนุฏุฏ ุงููุงุณ ุณูููู ุฃููู
ูุนุฑููู ุงููุฑุงุกุฉ ูุงููุชุงุจุฉ ูุชุจุฏุฃ ูู ุงุฎุชุจุงุฑูู
. | because the number of people will say they are literate and you start testing them. |
ููู
ููุฑุคูู ููููุงู ุชุนูู
ููุ ุฑุจู
ุง 10 ููู
ุงุช ูู ุงูุฏูุงุฆู. | and they are reading little you know, 10 words per minutes. |
ููุฏููู
50ูช ู
ุนุฏู ุฃุฎุทุงุก ุชุนูู
ูู. | and they are having 50% you know error rates. |
ูู
ุง ูููู ุฃุฏุงู
ุง ู
ู ุญูุซ ุงูู
ุจุฏุฃ ูู
ุง ู
ุน ุงูุฃุทูุงูุ ุฅุฐุง ููุช ุชููู
ุจุงูุชุฏุฑูุณ. | as Adama says in principle as with children, if you are teaching. |
ุฃู ุดูุก ุขุฎุฑ ุบูุฑ ุงูุฅูุฌููุฒูุฉุ ุงููุฑูุณูุฉุ ุงูุจุฑุชุบุงููุฉ ูุฃูุง ุฃุชุฑู ุงูุตูููุฉ ุฌุงูุจูุง. | anything other than english, french, portuguese and i leave aside chinese. |
ูุงูุฎู
ูุฑ ุชุฑูุช ุงูุฎู
ูุฑ ููุญุธุฉ ุฃูุถูุง. | and khmer I leave aside khmer for the moment also. |
ูู ุชูู ูุงุญุฏุฉ ู
ู ูุบุงุชูุ | is that one of your languages? |
ูุฌุจ ุฃู ูููู ุฑูู
21. | it is it ought to be number 21. |
ูุง ุชุณุชุทูุน ุงููููู ุนุงูููุง ุนูู ุฐูู. | you cannot stand high on that. |
ููู ุฃูุง ูู ุงูุชู
ููุฏู ุงูู
ุชูุฏู
ุชุนูู
ููุ ูู ุชุชูู. | but I am an advanced primer you know, it master. |
ุญุฑู ูุงุญุฏ ูู ุงูู
ุฑุฉ ุตุญูุญุ ุญุฑู ูุงุญุฏ ูู ุงูู
ุฑุฉ. ู
ูุงูู ูุนู
. ุฃูุง ุขุณู. | one letter at a time right, one letter at a time. okay yes. I am sorry. |
ุฃุนูู ูู ุฐูู ููุท ุญูู 8 ูุบุงุช ูู ุงูุนุงูู
ูู
ูููู
ูุนู ูุฐุง. | I mean it is just about] all that really about 8 languages in the world you can do this. |
ุชุฏุฑูุณูู
ุญุฑููุง ุจุญุฑู ูุชุฏุฑูุณ ุงูุชุฑููุจ ููู
ูุณููุนููููุง. | teach them letter by letter and teach them the composition and they will do it. |
ููุงู ู
ุดููุฉ ู
ุน ู
ุญู ุฃู
ูุฉ ุงููุจุงุฑ ููุญู ุจุญุงุฌุฉ ุฅูู ุฃู ูููู
ูุฐุง ุจุดูู ุฃูุถู. | there is a problem with adult literacy and we need to understand this better. |
ุจุนุฏ ุณู 18ุ ุจุนุถ ุงูุฏูุงุฆุฑ ูู ุฃุฏู
ุบุชูุง ูุจุฏู ุฃููุง ุชููุฏ ุงููุธุงุฆู. | past age 18, some circuit in our brains seems to lose functionality. |
ููุณุช ู
ูุงุฌุฃุฉ ุตุญูุญุ ุงูุฌู
ูุน | no surprise right, everyone is |
ูุงููุงุณ ุณูุชุนูู
ูู ุงูุฃุญุฑูุ ูุง ูุง ูุฃู ูู ุงููุงูุน ูุณุจุฉ ููููุฉ ู
ู ูุฐู ู
ูุฌูุฏุฉ. | and people will learn the letters, no no because actually relatively few of these exist. |
ููู ูุฐุง ูุตุงุฏู ุฃู ูููู ุตุญูุญูุง ุชุนูู
ูู ุนูู ุงูู
ุณุงุฑ ุงูุญุฑุฌ. | but this happens to be right you know on the critical path. |
ุฃูุช ุชุชุนูู
ุงูุฃุญุฑูุ ุจุงูุทุจุน ุงููุงุณ ุชุนุฑู ุงููุบุฉ ุฃู ุชุชุนูู
ุงููุบุฉ. | you learn the letters, of course people know the language or learn the language. |
ููุง ูู
ููู ุฃุจุฏูุง ุฑุคูุชูุง ุชุฃุชู ู
ุนูุง ุชููุงุฆููุง. | and you can never see them together coming automatically. |
ูู
ุง ุชุฑูู ุชุนูู
ูู ูุฐู ุงููุชุงุจุฉ ุจุงูุชุญุฏูุฏ. | as you see you know this particular writing. |
ุณุชุฑูู ุฅูู ุงูุฃุจุฏ ุบุงุจุฉ ู
ู ุงูุฃุญุฑู ูุจุนุถูู
ุฑุจู
ุง ูููู ูุฏ ุชุนูู
ุงูู
ุฎุทูุทุงุช. | you will forever see a jungle of letter and some of you may have learned scripts. |
ู
ุฎุทูุทุงุช ุฌุฏูุฏุฉ ุจุนู
ุฑ 18 ุณูุฉ ู
ุถุช ูุณุชุฑูู ุงูุชุฃุซูุฑ ููุณู. | new scripts past age 18 and you will see the same effect. |
ู
ู ุงูู
ู
ูู ุฌุฏูุง ุฃู ูุชุนูู
ูุบุฉ ุฌุฏูุฏุฉ ู
ุซู ุงูุชุงููุงูุฏูุฉุ ุงููุงูุ ุงูููุฏูุฉ ูุงูุนุฑุจูุฉ ุจุงูุทุจุนุ | it is very possible to learn a new language like thai, lao, hindi and arabic of course, |
ููุท ุญุงูู ุชุนูู
ุงููุฑุงุกุฉ. ูู
ููู ุชุนูู
ุงูุฃุญุฑู. | just try to learn to read. you can learn the letters. |
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