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2015-11-13-#ubuntu-us-pa
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[10:34] <rmg51> Morning
[13:20] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:31.917531
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2015-11-13-#ubuntu-news
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[02:39] <pleia2> not exactly the most exciting news week this week
[02:40] <pleia2> I'll try to round up some more articles tomorrow
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:31.918449
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2015-11-13-#ubuntu-community-team
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[08:09] <davidcalle> Good morning o/
[08:32] <popey> Good morning!
[08:40] <dholbach> hey dpm, ara, popey, salut davidcalle
[08:40] <dholbach> hey ahayzen
[08:41] <ahayzen> dholbach, o/
[08:41] <dpm> happy Friday everyone :)
[08:41] <dholbach> and the same to you :)
[08:41] <ahayzen> \o/
[08:41] <dholbach> davidcalle, you're probably still heads down in scopes - do you know our plans for landing https://code.launchpad.net/~developer-ubuntu-com-dev/developer-ubuntu-com/show-gadgetsnap-images/+merge/277089?
[08:41] <ara> hey dholbach!
[08:42] <dholbach> or do we need a review from mhall119 for that MP?
[09:14] <popey> dholbach, when you get a chance, I have pushed new terminal and file manager to the click store which need review. Thanks!
[09:17] * popey updates the community team (bi)-weekly update doc nice and early for once :)
[09:20] <dholbach> sure, taking a look now
[09:25] <dholbach> done
[09:34] <popey> dholbach, thank you!
[09:38] <davidcalle> dholbach, I'll file a new RT to land it today, looks good to go
[09:59] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:02] <davidcalle> Hey czajkowski
[10:03] * dholbach hugs davidcalle
[10:03] <dholbach> hey czajkowski
[10:12] <czajkowski> HAPPY FRIDAY!
[10:33] <nigelb> Oh no.
[10:33] <nigelb> It's a Friday already?!
[10:50] <popey> \o/
[13:45] <balloons_> Morning
[13:50] <popey> hello!
[13:50] <popey> you have a tail!
[13:52] <Pici> its a string
[13:58] <popey> balloons_, when you wake, could you please take a look at shorts jenkins? https://code.launchpad.net/~mrqtros/ubuntu-rssreader-app/uitk13-few-fixes/+merge/275625
[14:01] <balloons_> popey, pre req has to land
[14:01] <balloons_> https://code.launchpad.net/~qqworini/ubuntu-rssreader-app/uitk-1_3/+merge/275620
[14:11] <popey> balloons_, can that re-run on new jenkins? (the second one)
[14:12] <dholbach> dpm, weekly summary updated
[14:12] <dpm> awesome, thanks!
[14:16] <balloons_> Yep it's running
[14:20] <balloons> popey, jenkins passed it
[14:21] <popey> yay
[14:21] <popey> thanks
[14:22] <czajkowski> always nice when jenkins is nice and does that for you :)
[14:44] <mhall119> pleia2: is http://mhall119.com/2015/11/your-donations-at-work/ worth reposting on the fridge, or in UWN?
[15:15] <pleia2> mhall119: yeah to both, if no one else gets to it, i will put on fridge when i'm back to my computer
[15:16] <mhall119> pleia2: no rush, wake up and get your coffee first :)
[15:16] <mhall119> oh wait, are you still on US/Eastern time?
[15:17] <mhall119> though I don't suppose it matters, I'm still waking up and getting my coffee :/
[15:21] <dholbach> all right then... I call it a day a bit earlier today - have a great weekend and see you on Monday!
[15:21] * dholbach hugs you all
[15:53] <dpm> mhall119, http://imgur.com/zvOA6mp
[15:54] <dpm> I now just need to figure out how to dump the database to make it more juju-able for a new deployment
[15:55] <dpm> jcastro, that was with the python-django plugin and the help from the #juju folks last night ^
[15:55] <mhall119> dpm: looks nice
[15:56] <mhall119> dpm: "fixtures" are the Django was of shipping initialization data
[15:56] <jcastro> \o/
[15:58] <dpm> mhall119, yeah, I know about the concept, but I've never tried it. I'll give it a go in a few minutes.
[17:09] <davidcalle> @all, have a nice weekend o/
[17:09] <meetingology> davidcalle: Error: "all," is not a valid command.
[17:09] <nigelb> haha
[17:10] <popey> o/
[17:10] <popey> what's that bot doing in here!?
[17:10] <popey> we never have meetings here
[17:10] <davidcalle> meetingology, I hate you too
[17:10] <meetingology> davidcalle: Error: "I" is not a valid command.
[17:11] <davidcalle> Oh well...
[17:38] <dpm> mhall119, what do I need to get the raw HTML plugin working for ubucon? I think when I started this I picked the code from an old version of d.u.c, so I'm not sure I've got the right files
[17:42] <popey> balloons, T-139 minutes!
[17:42] <balloons> popey, I know.. I keep checking my mail, lol
[17:42] <popey> :)
[17:43] <mhall119> dpm: developer_portal/cms_plugins.py is what you need
[17:43] <mhall119> and the raw.html template file it references also
[17:47] <dpm> mhall119, ah, great, I can see it. I think developer_portal/views.py is also probably needed, right?
[17:47] <mhall119> not for the plugin, I don't think
[17:47] <dpm> err, models.py, I meant
[17:48] <dpm> it's got a RawHtml class
[17:58] <mhall119> ah,yes, that you'll need
[18:00] <mhall119> dpm: the sponsor brochure is done with the exception of pricing from Richard and anything that legal wants to add (I expect at least a terms & conditions page from them)
[18:01] <mhall119> I've added a form and contact details for Abi
[18:02] <mhall119> oh, also the party & social event descriptions once we know them
[18:49] <dpm> excellent, thanks mhall119
[18:50] <dpm> balloons, I've noticed the video on https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/quality does not play anymore (shows "YouTube Error (2)"). Has the original video been taken down?
[18:52] <balloons> dpm, let me look
[19:03] <balloons> so no, the link is broken somehow
[19:03] <balloons> the video is there, I'll fix it
[19:08] <balloons> it won't let me save :-(
[19:08] <balloons> the link should be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En1MaDDp9_8
[19:09] <popey> just replace the embed code
[19:09] <popey> it's using the old flash embed, use the new html5 one
[19:09] <popey> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/En1MaDDp9_8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
[19:10] <popey> oh, djangocms embed :S
[19:15] <mhall119> popey: is the cms being "helpful" agian?
[19:15] <popey> :)
[19:15] <mhall119> will rawhtml plugin do the trick?
[19:15] <popey> I opened the edit page, saw a line at the top with a django cms and closed the tab
[19:15] <popey> could do.
[19:20] <balloons> any luck?
[19:28] <balloons> argggh, why won't it let me save anything
[19:39] <balloons> wait, it's showing up for me now
[19:39] <balloons> weird
[19:41] <balloons> I think it's ok now
[19:42] <balloons> and yes, mhall119, we still need html5 video
[19:42] <balloons> mhall119, have you tried using the rawhtml plugin?
[19:57] <dpm> balloons, it's showing for me too now
[20:00] <popey> balloons, refresh the code in page
[20:01] <popey> We're in!
[20:01] <dpm> ahahah, nice one! \o/
[20:04] <popey> That's a spectacularly great end to the week!
[20:05] <popey> jose, check your email ;)
[20:07] <popey> balloons, jose we should catch up on monday and start planning out how we're going to manage this. :)
[20:12] <jose> woooooo we're in!
[20:12] <jose> \o/
[20:13] <popey> Upboat! https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/3sp96q/google_codein_organisations_announced_including/ :)
[20:13] * popey deliberately spelled organisations correctly ;)
[20:13] <popey> Thanks for your efforts to get us bootstrapped jose, you should reply to the thread on the mailing list to let everyone know we're in!
[20:14] <jose> will do!
[20:14] <czajkowski> well done folks
[20:15] <popey> This is _so_ exciting!
[20:18] <jose> actually made my day
[20:19] <dpm> ok, have an extra fantastic weekend, see you next week! :-)
[20:29] <popey> jose, yeah, same here!
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:31.924091
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2015-11-13-#ubuntu-hr
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[04:02] <ivoks> always a fun read
[04:02] <ivoks> https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt
[07:12] <obrut> ivoks: bas sam se jucer sjetio toga kad smo pricali kakvu cemo podrsku napraviti kad predjemo na jedan sustav pa smo rekli da cemo napisati rfc za web services over students
[07:18] <dodobas> yutro
[07:35] <BotaniCar> lol, obrut imas istu spiku kao jedan frend koji u KINGu radi :)
[07:50] <SilverSpace> jutro
[08:10] <Mmike> Guit Moguren!
[08:10] <Mmike> dodobas: di je povray result
[08:10] <Mmike> SilverSpace: di je povray result
[08:10] <Mmike> obrut: sta se ceka, ajmo, ajmo!
[08:12] <dodobas> Mmike: isto gdje i jucer ... http://jebo.me/pas/3
[08:12] <Mmike> Ostavio sam vrata od balkona u 'officetu' otvorena :) laptop mi je na +31C :D :D
[08:12] <Mmike> dodobas: ups, sorrka borrka, sad cemo mi to
[08:14] <Mmike> dodobas: koja je to verzija archa?
[08:15] <vileni> Mmike: nisi ni moj amd stavio jos
[08:15] <dodobas> ona koja je bila jucer :)
[08:15] <dodobas> dakle Archlinux 20151112
[08:15] <Mmike> :D
[08:15] <Mmike> dodobas: to ja samo pokusavam provocirati
[08:15] <Mmike> vileni: nisam, kak nisam?
[08:15] <Mmike> aha, nisam
[08:15] <Mmike> cek
[08:15] <Mmike> a daj se potpisite kad jebomepasate, kaj vas je sram? :)
[08:15] <Mmike> vileni: daj url opet
[08:16] <dodobas> Mmike: ne ide ti jutros... mos probat prkrit... ali ne ide ti... ne mene se ne bus izvuko
[08:16] <vileni> http://jebo.me/pas/3u
[08:16] <SilverSpace> Mmike: kakav sad povray result
[08:16] <SilverSpace> ?
[08:16] <Mmike> SilverSpace: ti previse spavas
[08:16] <Mmike> SilverSpace: http://ubuntu-hr.org/povraying.html
[08:16] <SilverSpace> Mmike: budan sam ti svako dan u 7h
[08:17] <SilverSpace> imam gremlina doma
[08:18] <Mmike> SilverSpace: nemoj rec :DDD
[08:18] <Mmike> SilverSpace: aj sad dost zajebancije i povray
[08:18] <Mmike> vileni: to je isto 14.04?
[08:19] <dodobas> dakle... ako obrisete 'ARchive' mailove na Gmail accountu... u thunderbirdu... obrisat ce se inbox ... hebo gmails
[08:19] <Mmike> jebo gmail, slazem se
[08:19] <Mmike> ocajan je, opce ne kuzim kak to ljudima moze bit ok za koristiti
[08:20] <dodobas> blazena 'Undo' opcija ... cini se da vraca nesto ...
[08:20] <dodobas> Mmike: a koja je alternativa ... yandex.ru ili kako vec ?
[08:20] <SilverSpace> Mmike: daj objasni nemam veze o cemu pricas kad si me izbacio sa servera
[08:20] <dodobas> ja sam koristio lavabit ... dok ga nisu pederi ugasili
[08:21] <Mmike> SilverSpace: nisam ja, budz0r je
[08:21] <Mmike> SilverSpace: instaliras povray,. pokrenes ga sa --benchmark, javis rezultate na jebomepas. dodas jos 'uname -a' output i 'cat /proc/cpuinfo'
[08:21] <Mmike> i onda ja metnem u tablicu
[08:22] <Mmike> dodobas: ja imam svoj mail server, i da, pila je malo za odzravanje i drkeriranje a'l bar imam mail slozen kako hocu
[08:22] <Mmike> na googletu, reciom, nemres filtrirat email po headerima
[08:22] <Mmike> nema te opcije
[08:23] <dodobas> Mmike: a znam ... imam i ja, ali recimo domena hotosm.org ... je na gmailu ...
[08:23] <dodobas> ne mogu bas puno napraviti
[08:24] <SilverSpace> Mmike: aha ok
[08:24] <vileni> Mmike: da
[08:24] <vileni> Mmike: pa pejstao sam i uname
[08:24] <Mmike> vileni: pa ne pise tamo distra
[08:24] <Mmike> dodobas: mosh, forwardiras si sav email s gmaila na svoj mail server
[08:24] <vileni> Mmike: Linux earthshaker 3.16.0-50-generic #67~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 2 22:07:51 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:25] <Mmike> vileni: i di tu pise distra? :)
[08:25] <Mmike> aha, gle
[08:25] <Mmike> pise :D
[08:25] <vileni> pa e :)
[08:25] <Mmike> mario@MIKE ~> uname -a
[08:25] <Mmike> Linux mike 3.13.0-67-generic #110-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 23 13:24:41 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:25] <Mmike> meni ne pise
[08:25] <Mmike> zanimljivo :)
[08:25] <vileni> tvoj je bezveze
[08:25] <SilverSpace> :)
[08:26] <Mmike> vileni: jel' imas hwe kernel instaliran?
[08:26] <vileni> Mmike: nemam pojma
[08:26] <Mmike> vileni: dpkg -l | grep linux-image-extra
[08:26] <Mmike> mosh pejstbinat
[08:26] <Mmike> ili linux-image, jos bolje
[08:27] <vileni> http://jebo.me/pas/1w
[08:28] <Mmike> vileni: a smao linux?
[08:29] <vileni> Mmike: kad cemo trziti za disk? :)
[08:29] <Mmike> vileni: eeee>!
[08:29] <Mmike> vileni: osh veceras?
[08:29] <vileni> Mmike: gdje
[08:29] <Mmike> kakav sam car - jucer na scalewayu odro fino povray i ugasio strojeve skroz
[08:29] <Mmike> i sad imam rezultate u pimpekatoru
[08:30] <vileni> http://jebo.me/pas/3j
[08:30] <vileni> bojle bi bilo da sam ti dao vpn pristup do stroja
[08:32] <Mmike> ili samo ssh tunel :)
[08:33] <Mmike> linux-generic-lts-utopic
[08:33] <dodobas> gre tunel ...
[08:33] <Mmike> tu smo daklem!
[08:33] <Mmike> ok, /me ne kuzi kaj je HWE kernel
[08:33] <Mmike> vileni: to si frisko instalirao 14.04, right?
[08:33] <Mmike> i dobio to?
[08:33] <dodobas> sto je hwe kernel ?
[08:34] <Mmike> dodobas: hardware enablement kernel, tak nesh - ideja je da kad instaliras LTS na pocetku dobijes kernel koji je tad bio aktualan. 3 godine kasnije kad taj isti LTS instaliras s tim kernelom sansa je da ce postojat hardver kojeg taj kernel ne kuzi
[08:34] <Mmike> pa onda instaliras HWE kernel koji to kuzi
[08:34] <Mmike> al' izgleda da su odustali od naminga, pa sad imas -lst-utopic, -lts-vivid, i te kernele
[08:35] <SilverSpace> Mmike: kaj sad kopirat od rezultata
[08:39] <SilverSpace> Mmike: http://jebo.me/pas/7w@raw
[08:40] <SilverSpace> ?
[08:40] <SilverSpace> nis ja tu ne kuzim
[08:41] <Mmike> cekaj, cica, sad cu ja da ti pokazem
[08:41] <Mmike> SilverSpace: pa to je to, sve si dao kaj treba
[08:41] <SilverSpace> UPOZORENJE: ako idete doktoru obavezno cuvajte racune od participacije i tražite racun
[08:42] <SilverSpace> jebo majku svoju stigla ovrha za mamu da nije platila 25kn i sad moramo platiti 380
[08:42] <SilverSpace> rebro bolnica
[08:43] <Mmike> SilverSpace: to je velika fama, hrpetini ljudi je to stiglo
[08:43] <SilverSpace> hrpu ljudi dobilo
[08:43] <Mmike> SilverSpace: malo pogledaj po fejsbucima tviterima, hrpa ljudi koja nikad nije bila na rebru je to dobila
[08:43] <SilverSpace> http://radio.hrt.hr/radio-sljeme/clanak/slucaj-kbc-zagreb-i-bez-racuna-se-racuna/105643/
[08:44] <SilverSpace> Mmike: da nisi trebao bit na rebru
[08:44] <SilverSpace> sa vise ustanova zdrastvenih je to povezano
[08:45] <dodobas> Mmike: ahaa, zimku
[08:45] <SilverSpace> na racunu pise i datum kao kad je dug napravljen, a u to vrijeme sigurno nije mama bila u bolnici
[08:45] <SilverSpace> muljaža majke im ga nabijek
[08:49] <SilverSpace> vileni: kak si ti brzi od mene :)
[08:52] <Mmike> SilverSpace: on nema unity pokrenut :D
[08:52] <Mmike> dodobas: erm
[08:52] <Mmike> dodobas: kaj?
[09:03] <dodobas> Mmike: failas opako, danas ... :P
[09:05] <dodobas> e... koje maslinovo ulje kupujete u trgovini, s obzirom da su svi moji OPG proizvodjaci ... presusli
[09:07] <SilverSpace> da to je to 2618.330
[09:07] <Mmike> dodobas: niti jedno
[09:07] <Mmike> dodobas: kupimo na hvaru prek ljeta
[09:08] <Mmike> dodobas: imam doma jedno 2 litre kaj mi stoji jedno godinu dana, u mraku i to, mislim da je jos ok - osh?
[09:08] <SilverSpace> uh jeboti zivot da ti jebo sad sam tek u kurcu
[09:09] <SilverSpace> stara ostala nepokretna i sad se necu oporaviti godinama
[09:09] <dodobas> Mmike: po koliko krznatih zivotinja ?
[09:10] <Mmike> po nikoliko
[09:10] <SilverSpace> u bolnici je nece drzat, doma se ne mozemo brinut oko nje
[09:10] <Mmike> platis hamburek :)
[09:10] <Mmike> SilverSpace: u jebemti :(
[09:10] <Mmike> SilverSpace: pa kaj bilo staroj/
[09:10] <Mmike> ?
[09:10] <SilverSpace> Mmike: jetra otisla
[09:10] <Mmike> aiii :(
[09:11] <Mmike> SilverSpace: kol'ko je stara majka?
[09:11] <SilverSpace> 75
[09:11] <Mmike> :(
[09:11] <Mmike> SilverSpace: kaj sad?
[09:11] <SilverSpace> morat cemo je tu negdje blizu smjestiti na njegu
[09:12] <SilverSpace> bas kopam po internetu
[09:13] <SilverSpace> operacija nikakva ne dolazi u obzir jer vise nemaju sto operirati
[09:13] <SilverSpace> samo je jos ljekovi drze na zivotu
[09:14] <Mmike> SilverSpace: a jel' komunikativna?
[09:14] <SilverSpace> infuzije i transfuzije
[09:14] <SilverSpace> da jos uvijek
[09:15] <SilverSpace> do ponedjeljka je jos hodala i kuhala
[09:30] <Mmike> SilverSpace: jebemu sve :/
[09:35] <pkiller> jeste probavali ovo za mail? https://github.com/nylas/sync-engine
[09:49] <BotaniCar> ne probavam nista sto nema velik userbase i kakav-tkav support.
[09:56] <SilverSpace> Mmike: sve to napravi tvrdoglsvost kaj se nije dala kod doktora. Godinu dana se sestra i ja svađali oko njenog odlaska doktoru
[10:01] <Mmike> SilverSpace: znam, imam i ja dvoje takvih.
[10:01] <Mmike> Majka moja, i ja sam.
[10:14] <SilverSpace> Franko na engleskom napisao na pitanja Ja sam pametan a na drugo pitanje ali nisam lijep
[10:15] <SilverSpace> koji mali bedak
[10:24] <BotaniCar> "Mmike> Majka moja, i ja sam." #onokad znas svoje slabosti :)
[10:25] <BotaniCar> Dakle, imam HP switch vrijedan ~5HRK s lifetime supportom, nekaj ne radi, posaljem ticket bez ikakve nade da ce ga uopce otvoriti, frajer zove na telefon unutar 10 minuta da je u obradi i da oprostim na cekanju ;)
[11:03] <Mmike> prejebeno mi to kak windowsima 'checking for updates' traje satima :)
[11:03] <Mmike> doduse, dio problema je i u tome sto se stroj suspenda pa to skuzim tek nakon sat vremena :)
[11:11] <BotaniCar> Mmike: to vrijedi samo za tvoje windowse :)
[11:11] <BotaniCar> Meni je jebeno kak mi je Win10 zakl'o KVM :) Frajer idla i rosta po disku k'o da nema sutra :)
[11:12] <Mmike> win10 tak rade, zaklo bi i fizicki stroj :)
[11:12] <Mmike> BotaniCar: mogucno da sam sjebao nesto prebacom na SSD
[11:12] <BotaniCar> A vec mjesec dana sjedim na ubuntuu i nemam snage rebootati u windowse da restoraju mirror koji su sami strgali, zadnji put kad su to napravili su uspjeli vracati polje koje linux vrati za ~3h - 2 dana :)
[11:13] <Mmike> dobio sam opomenu od cistoce
[11:13] <Mmike> 1200 kuna
[11:13] <Mmike> da nisam platio od 2014
[11:14] <Mmike> al' ono, tipa, 2,3, 5, 7, 11 mjesec u 2014 i onda 1, 2, 4 6 i 8 mjesec u 2015toj
[11:14] <Mmike> brijem da cu ja zaposlit odvjetnicki ured
[11:14] <Mmike> i poslat ovrhe
[11:14] <Mmike> onak, na random
[11:14] <Mmike> pa sta bude, bude
[11:14] <Mmike> mislmi, ak mogu svi ovi, zakaj nebi ja mogo
[11:15] <BotaniCar> Ajmo prvo napravit' udrugu nekog generickog imena, pa onda to. Tak' da ljudi ne budu sigurni jesu nam duzni ili ne :)
[11:21] <Mmike> to je k'o fora iz LockStock?
[11:21] <Mmike> kad veli lik - napravis sajt i izreklamiras ultra-turbo-super-duper-dildo
[11:21] <Mmike> $20, diskretna ambalaza, sve pet ovo ono
[11:21] <Mmike> ekipa ti posalje novce
[11:21] <Mmike> i to jos na kompaniju 'mirisljavi stapici d.o.o.', ono, sve diskretno
[11:22] <Mmike> i onda nakon 2 tjedna im se javis nazad i ispricas se, velis 'jbg, sorry, potraznja velika, nestalo na skladistu, javimo kad ce bit opet'
[11:22] <Mmike> i posaljes cek sa tih $20
[11:22] <Mmike> ali s kompanije 'turbo-guzica-penetrator' i na ceku uredno stoji 'povrat sredtava za hibridno seksualno pomagalo za macke i vas odjednom'
[11:22] <Mmike> i nadas se da vecina ljudi nikad nece unovciti takav cek :)
[11:23] <BotaniCar> Da !! :)
[11:23] <Mmike> Bed je samo sto kod nas cekovi ne pale :)
[11:24] <Mmike> sam pricao kak me stari zvao neki dan?
[11:24] <Mmike> da mu ne radi printer na ubuntuu
[11:24] <Mmike> doso, spojio, upalio, radi
[11:24] <Mmike> reko, kaj ne radi?
[11:24] <Mmike> hm, veli on, a skener?
[11:24] <Mmike> reko, ajmo i to, doso, upalio, radi
[11:24] <Mmike> i tak :)
[11:42] <pkiller> a i bed je što bi se kod nas stvarno i pojebali za tih 20$ a kamoli osramotili u banci
[11:43] <BotaniCar> pkiller: igras na velike brojeve, sad smo u EU, mozes spamati puno vece trziste :)
[11:43] <BotaniCar> Mmike: zakaj ga nisi prvo trazio da reproducira problem, dok ga snimas mobitelom ? :D
[11:45] <Mmike> BotaniCar: dobra :)
[11:45] * BotaniCar to zenici radi :)
[11:45] <BotaniCar> Sinek me veseli, imm istu metodologiju, ali on u reproduciranju problema nekad stane i sam se sjeti rjesenja :)
[11:48] <Mmike> e
[11:48] <Mmike> kaj su njih dva fakat jako urlali onaj dan u Mysticu? :)
[11:49] <BotaniCar> Mislim da su se fakat trudili biti uljudni, garantiram da Filip zna biti glasniji. No, bili su dovoljno glasni da vas ne cujem kaj ti i Vileni pricate stol do.
[11:50] <Mmike> LOL
[11:50] <Mmike> veli mi zena iz cistoce da oni nemaju nikakav dug od mene evidentiran
[11:50] <Mmike> i da sam ja nesh krivo dobio
[11:50] <Mmike> pa odrezat cu si trepavice
[11:50] <BotaniCar> s/si/im/
[11:55] <Mmike> di uzimate SSL certove?
[11:55] <BotaniCar> Issuam si ih sam, ne vjerujem nikom.
[11:59] <Mmike> super
[11:59] <pkiller> self signed su oni sa prekriženim https jelda? :)
[12:00] <Mmike> bas si pravi, bot :)
[12:00] <Mmike> selfsigned su oni za koje neznas dal' te netko scama, da :)
[12:00] <pkiller> najbolje onda da si sam kompajlaš i chromium sa whitelistanim certovima koje sam proizvodiš :)
[12:01] <BotaniCar> Mmike: selfsigned je onaj s prekrizenim https i di ti pise da sam cert issuao ja , a ne neka no-name kompanija. I onda me nazoves i pitas jel to moj cert, a ne scam - jer mozes. Koliko ti treba da dobijes potvrdu autenticnosti od svog omiljenog CA ?
[12:02] <BotaniCar> Cijela nisha u kojoj radim vise vjeruje selfsigned certifikatima nego CAima
[12:02] <Mmike> BotaniCar: nadam se da je ovo kaj sad pricas zajebancija :)
[12:02] <Mmike> pa cu te ignorirat :)
[12:02] <BotaniCar> Niej zajebancija. Mislim, kaj se CA tice, gle kaj je symantec napravio.
[12:02] <Mmike> ne radi se o tome
[12:02] <BotaniCar> nego ?
[12:02] <pkiller> ja sam cacert koristio dok sam bio sysadmin, za rdp i exchange
[12:03] <Mmike> neg se radi da 1001 uredjaj nece radit ako nije sajnano od nekog geotrusta/comoda/thawteya/verisajna/rapidssla/pickekurac
[12:03] <Mmike> odem s andrijdom na sajt i ovaj kaze 'no can do'
[12:03] <BotaniCar> Mmike: bio sam specifican i rekao da moja nisha tako radi.
[12:03] <Mmike> kak da ja korisniku objasnim di mora kliknit i kak da opce provjeri ?
[12:03] <Mmike> a ak ti steficama objasnjavas kaj i kak
[12:03] <Mmike> velika je sansa da su te prestale zvat, jer im naporno
[12:03] <pkiller> Mmike: to to :)
[12:04] <Mmike> sto znaci da im bilo tko moze uvalit sranje jer ne provjeravaju authenticity
[12:04] <pkiller> mene su stalno zvali da neki error ima na mejlu
[12:04] <Mmike> da, nisu ovi savrseni, nikako, i sjebljivi su i sve to
[12:04] <BotaniCar> O kakvim steficama pricas ? ja imam selfsigned kriptiranu komunikaciju s najvecim retailerima na Kugli :)
[12:04] <Mmike> al' sam bar sigurniji
[12:04] <Mmike> o steficama koje rade u retailerima
[12:04] <BotaniCar> Nemam kontakta s steficama, mi smo M2M cvjecarna
[12:05] <BotaniCar> odnosno, poslovno gledano G2B/B2B , steficama slobodno prodaju maglu da je cijeli taj PKI sustav super
[12:10] <Mmike> sale: thnx na preporuci :)
[12:10] <Mmike> BotaniCar: pa, PKI sustav je super :)
[12:12] <sale> ehlo
[12:12] <sale> Mmike: trebalo mi je malo vremena da skuzim o cemu pricas :-)
[12:12] <sale> np :-)
[12:12] <Mmike> sale: :) samo, brate mili, pa kako to CentOS? :)
[12:12] <sale> :-D
[12:13] <sale> neke stvari su usadjene u firmi davno prije nego sto sam stigao :-)
[12:13] <sale> Mmike: nego, gdje si ti sad?
[12:14] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: na kaj to ide tvoje racunalo ? 881.499 CPU-secs
[12:14] <SilverSpace> na neke opasne droge
[12:22] <BotaniCar> SilverSpace: kak' racunalo meni, tak' ja vama :) Dajem mu mix speeda i MDMA-e, ubrzano je i voli cijeli svijet
[12:26] <Mmike> sale: u Zagrebu, shto?
[12:33] <sale> Mmike: mislim na radno mjesto. Canonical?
[12:33] <Mmike> sale: yup yup
[12:33] <Mmike> rekli mi da cu openstack ovo ono, a i dalje mongodb/mysql ovoono
[12:34] <Mmike> al sta sad :) bar ne gledam gole pimpeke vis e:)
[12:34] <sale> ahahaha :-)
[12:47] <Mmike> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1463112
[12:47] <Mmike> 'cat sitting on keyboard crashses lightdm'
[12:47] <Mmike> :D:D:D
[12:54] <Mmike> https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3skymv/bug_1463112_cat_sitting_on_keyboard_crashes/
[12:54] <Mmike> uumret cu :)
[12:54] <jelly> ha, Treviño je sad u buntu?
[12:56] <obrut> Mmike: :) "Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users." ... sta su stavljali macke na tastature :)
[12:57] <Mmike> obrut: kolega koji se bavi desktopom veli da nemre radit na bugu jer nemre reproducirat - on, naime, ima psa
[12:57] <Mmike> :D
[12:58] <obrut> kaze kolega da jos ima zeceve da bi napravio test dal se bug trigerira na vise vrsta :)
[12:58] <BotaniCar> Ovoje gore od crossdistribution buga, crossspecies ! :)
[13:00] <Mmike> ipak jesam duzan cistoci, al' sveksup nekih 200 kuna, 2 mjeseca nisam platio 8/2014 i 2/2015
[13:00] <Mmike> kakvi konji
[13:33] <BotaniCar> Kaj nisu zakonski obavezni prvo poslati opomenu, a onda ovrsavati ?
[13:36] <jelly> Mmike: tebi cistoca dolazi kao poseban racun?
[13:40] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: je meni doslo iz bolnice i kazu da su poslali, a nije nista stiglo
[13:41] <BotaniCar> jelly: brijem da je to iz doba kad je jos dolazila posebno.
[13:41] <SilverSpace> to i nama stiglo
[13:41] <BotaniCar> SilverSpace: a onda ti njima reci da si platio, pa nek' dokazu da nisi :)
[13:41] <jelly> valjda im je neko popravio billing :-)
[13:47] <rut> dd
[13:59] <BotaniCar> o, (t)rutino !
[13:59] <rut> bas tako . trutina
[13:59] <rut> sto ima ?
[14:00] <rut> kakve si danas imao patnje po werteru ?
[14:05] <BotaniCar> Primjetio sam da kolegica ima uzasno puno dlaka na donjem dijelu ledja.
[14:05] <BotaniCar> Moze li gore ?
[14:05] <rut> pa kupi joj zilete
[14:05] <rut> a to sto joj leda takva ne znaci da je i dolje .. dam se kladit da je dolje ko bebina guza
[14:07] <obrut> BotaniCar: mi smo na faksu imali zensku koja je bila skroz dlakava, imala je i dlakava ledja... a furala je s likom koji je bio gori od chewbacce... pa na sami pokusaj vizualizacije njih dvoje u ljubavnom zagrljaju doslo ti zlo
[14:07] <rut> ima to i prednosti zimi obrut
[14:07] <rut> manje grijanje
[14:07] <BotaniCar> obrut: lako za to kad se oni isprepletu, ali zamisli postkoitualno rasplitanje :)
[14:07] <obrut> :P
[14:07] <BotaniCar> rut: moguce je da si u pravu, znam da je teze obrijati ledja nego jajva :)
[14:08] <obrut> BotaniCar: ponudi joj da joj ti obrijes ledja
[14:08] <rut> ma nije moguce nego 101% ..
[14:08] <BotaniCar> Idem pitat', ako se ne vratim ili sam dobio sexic ili batina. Ako se vratim, lagao sam i nisam pitao :)
[14:08] <rut> osim ak ta kolegica nema vise od 50
[14:08] <BotaniCar> ma , nema ni 30 :)
[14:09] <rut> ma ko bebina guza .. garantiram BSD-om
[14:09] <obrut> rut: znam ja par njih koje imaju vise od 50 i izgledaju bolje neg neke s 30
[14:09] <rut> obrut znam i ja al muffin mi stvorio sliku da u njegovoj firmi samo babe rade :)
[14:09] <obrut> rut: kojim BSD-om ? open/net/free/nekimdrugim ?
[14:09] <rut> pa ne racunam da ima i mladih kolegica
[14:10] <rut> ma kojim god .. siguran sam da je fina i glatka koza
[14:11] <rut> kad smo kod bsd-a .. vec godinu i nesto cekam da 915kms updejtaju da bude uporabljiv na haswellu ..
[14:11] <rut> konacno je krenulo .. jos samo da 3d akceleraciju srede
[14:12] <obrut> ma ja sam za sad odusto od doticnog na workstationima, furam samo na opskurnim strojevima :)
[14:12] <rut> pricam za free .. ova dva imaju support al ... nemogu ukomponirat na uefi kad nemaju support
[14:12] <rut> sve naopako
[14:13] <obrut> ja obicno koristim free i net... ovisi na cemu i za sto
[14:13] <rut> net nikad nisam zavrtio .. bas nikad
[14:13] <obrut> zadnje sam net instaliro prije dva-tri mjeseca
[14:14] <obrut> net je super za ozivit stare, pogotovo opskurne kante
[14:14] <rut> a onda necu ni probavat ..
[14:14] <obrut> pa nije ogranicen samo za to, mos na njemu bilo sto :)
[14:15] <obrut> al ak imas opskurnu kantu, s njim imas najvise sanse :)
[14:15] <rut> mora haswell podrzavat i gnome3 .. sad cemo mi to zguglat
[14:17] <rut> eto mi zanimacije za vikend .. moze i jedno i drugo ..
[14:17] <jelly> još od sandybridge na dalje je intel grafika dovoljno dobra za gnome 3
[14:18] <rut> nisam imao nikad intelicu do sad .. samo nvidia
[14:18] <obrut> eh vikend, zena se razbolila, sve ce pokvarit... a lijepo smo se dogovorili :P
[14:19] <rut> gnome3 je dosao do 3.18 .. sad je tu stalo posto systemd trosi a to je banana na bsd-u .. koji je opce zadnji gnome za linux ?
[14:20] <obrut> eh systemd, bas prije pol sata napisah jedan .service file :P
[14:23] <rut> netrosim ga nigdje pa .. jos zadas me ne zanima :)
[14:24] <rut> https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-ports-gnome/tree/gnome-3.18/sysutils/loginkit
[14:24] <rut> to ce zamjenit vjerovatno systemd
[14:26] <jelly> pa systemd-logind nije neki strah, a ostalo se ne mora koristit
[14:27] <jelly> tako ubuntuti rade prije nego su presli 100% na systemd
[14:28] <rut> pa kazem to ce se koristit da bi pratili portanje gnometa
[14:29] <jelly> treba javit onim devuan mamlazima koji se boje systemda ko djavo krsta
[14:31] <jelly> aha, vec imaju loginkit zapakiran
[14:31] <rut> one network didi midi su na samom startu gnometa 3 izbacene .. i eto radi super
[14:31] <rut> sto ce mi glupi nm da mi sve sjebe
[14:32] <jelly> network-manager nisam nikad volio, zasto mi gasis mrezu kad se izlogiram wtf
[14:33] <rut> to ja gasim i brisem na svakom tutacu .. za nedaj boze
[14:33] <BotaniCar> Mmike: mozda bi valjalo de-topicnut' mandarine
[14:34] <jelly> da
[14:38] <Mmike> nemrem
[14:38] <Mmike> ne radi
[14:38] <Mmike> neda mi
[14:38] <BotaniCar> Kad nisi/nemas majmuna
[14:39] <jelly> @
[14:39] <BotaniCar> Eo, da ti jelly :)
[14:39] <jelly> na
[14:40] <BotaniCar> https://kapitalac.wordpress.com/2015/11/13/hocu-bruto-placu-na-ruke/ #nemoj da ne'ko nije glas'o, odmah cu znati da ste nezaposleni ili radite u banci :)
[14:41] <BotaniCar> s/i/ili/ # vele da mozes biti ne-pre-zaposlen i raditi u banci :D
[14:48] <jobenty> pozdrav evo mene opet
[14:50] <BotaniCar> Dosao si javiti da sve radi i da smo fantasticna pomoc, te da nas sve zelis nahraniti pecenim mesom i/ili pohanim sirom ?
[14:51] <jobenty> prema tutorialu http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/877 sam promjenio nativnu rezoluciju 1920x1080 u 1600x900. najprije u linux mint 17.2 mate a potom sam probao isto u linux mint 17.2 cinamon
[14:51] <jobenty> BotaniCar: ma ne opet sam uletio u probleme
[14:52] <jelly> nista od mesa :-\
[14:52] <jobenty> nakon što sam to učinio u MATE sve je bilo OK. P a reko zašto ne bi radilo i u CINAMON
[14:52] <jobenty> i sad
[14:53] <jobenty> BotaniCar: ok ok navrati na slavonsku šunku mogao bih ovih dana jednu izrezat
[14:54] <jobenty> i sad kad sam ponovo instalirao cinamon nisam morao mjenjati fajl xorg.conf nego sam samo dodao u izbornik display tu novu rezoluciju
[14:55] <jobenty> to su ona prva dva koraka iz tutoriala
[14:55] <jobenty> nakon toga činilo se da je sve uredu i dobio sam rezoluciju 1600x900 na monitoru
[14:55] <jobenty> ali kad sam restartao računalo
[14:56] <jobenty> nestale su sve rezolucije iz display izbornika i dobio sam software renderning
[14:56] <jobenty> ubacio sam stick i podigo live cinamon
[14:57] <jobenty> pa sam opet restaratao računalo
[14:57] <jobenty> i sad imam nativnu rezoluciju ali opet nema te 1600x900
[14:57] <jobenty> kad sam restaratao računalo dobio sam obavijest o grešci
[15:06] <jobenty> evo to je greška
[15:06] <jobenty> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13247847/
[15:07] <jobenty> smijem li obrisati taj fajl xorg.conf
[15:08] <jobenty> jesam li njega kreirao dok sam radio po tutorijalu ili je taj fajl tu bio i prije
[15:09] <jobenty> i gdje je ovo
[15:09] <jobenty> ovo /etc/X11/
[15:10] <jobenty> taj fajl na kraju tutoriala iskopiram tu
[15:10] <jobenty> pa me zanima gdje bi to bilo
[15:13] <jobenty> sad imam nekih obaveza ali javim se čim stignem
[17:06] <obrut> nego drugovi, kod koga kupujete domene ? :)
[17:07] <jelly> na placu imam lika... cigarete, petarde, domene
[17:07] <Mmike> obrut, botanicar ne kupuje domene, on sve ima na privatnim IPjevima sa lokalnim PKIjem
[17:08] <Mmike> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hlFemRA8MI
[17:18] <obrut> meni su te brojke i slova bile zakon :)
[17:21] <jelly> ha, andreas vollenweider u pozadini
[17:22] <obrut> ima i ova https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUWTyeqqvj4 :)
[17:39] <dodobas> Mmike: i sigurno ti se zena nece ljutiti ?
[18:14] <vileni> Mmike: evo ti jos jedan http://jebo.me/pas/22
[18:38] <Mmike> dodobas, ne
[18:38] <Mmike> dodobas, nece nit znat
[18:38] <Mmike> vileni, kul!
[18:39] <vileni> Mmike: i dalje je sporiji od i7 :)
[18:43] <dodobas> Mmike: sutra onda nekad ? da naletim ?
[18:44] <Mmike> dodobas, moze, mogu ga mozda uzet jer valjda idem s detetom u maksimir ili nekud
[18:44] <Mmike> mogo bi i diskove vilenom uzeti
[18:45] <dodobas> oko kojeg sata?
[18:48] <Mmike> izmedju 9 i 11
[18:48] <Mmike> i onda iza 15
[18:48] <Mmike> neznam :D
[18:53] <dodobas> a ja imam potencijalno taksiranje oko 14h ...
[18:54] <dodobas> a da te ja nazovem oko 9 pa da vidimo ? :)
[18:55] <jobenty> nitko ništa???
[19:08] <Vlado9A3CY> dobra vecer :)
[19:15] <vileni> Mmike: kad to
[20:15] <Mmike> dodobas, mislim da nista sutra od mene, moram u Rijeku :/
[20:15] <Mmike> moram na sprovod
[20:15] <Mmike> eventualno popodne kad se vratim
[22:13] <SilverSpace> http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/odvjetnici-kbca-zagreb-masovno-salju-i-naplacuju-opomene/855717.aspx
[22:29] <jobenty> HEEEELP
[22:29] <jobenty> ima li koga?
[22:29] <jobenty> Može li netko pomoći?
[22:31] <CrazyLemon> nope
[22:32] <jobenty> hmm
[23:08] <SilverSpace> loše loše za EU #paris
[23:09] <SilverSpace> LN
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[01:20] <wileee> daftykins, may be sainthood there
[01:20] <wileee> ;)
[01:20] <daftykins> hahaha
[01:20] <daftykins> jokes on him, i have to sleep early 8D
[01:21] <wileee> new user, big dreams, probably really young, heh, one here everyday lately, suppose I had some dream at one time
[01:22] <daftykins> :D
[01:28] <wileee> funny picture and story, grew up around this town, http://www.kgw.com/story/news/local/2015/11/12/4-masked-bandits-caught-newport-ore-art-gallery/75653184/
[05:11] <TJ-> amazing! my reverse-engineered installshield archive decompressor works first time
[05:11] * wileee waits for the user with single install always wanting grub vs the no grub match
[05:11] <wileee> heh, cool
[05:12] <TJ-> I always get GRUB so I forget about how it can be invisible
[05:12] <wileee> yeah me to
[05:12] <wileee> it does a lot, I know maybe 1%
[05:13] <wileee> I can read though if needed
[05:14] <TJ-> With mine the LUKS pass-phrase or key-file device needs attaching
[05:14] <wileee> ah, I've jsut been multibooted, limited computers so all on a couple.
[05:15] <wileee> got my acer d250 mini as the backup, heh.
[05:22] <TJ-> I dug out 2 notebooks I've had since 2002 this week; going to get them fired up again :)
[05:24] <TJ-> made me realize how software devs have squandered memory and CPU cycles. Those used to perform better then, than many current PCs do with latest software
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:27] <TJ-> morning, damn!
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: hey mate :p
[05:27] <TJ-> I was supposed to go to bed before midnight
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> doing overtime again
[05:27] <TJ-> Programming is too adictive :)
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: do you program also?
[05:28] <TJ-> That's how I started out, writing machine code and assembly language back in 1980 :)
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> what languages
[05:29] <TJ-> most over that time
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> me and my brother fooled around with BASIC, but thats about it :p
[05:31] <TJ-> I prefer close to the metal, so C and C++, but I've done some big Java systems.
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> cool
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> ICT is such wide spectrum plenty ways fro every talent
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> morning OerHeks
[05:34] <OerHeks> hi lotus
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-touch-ota-9-is-open-for-business-developers-can-start-pushing-fixes-496094.shtml
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> the covergence is upon us :p
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: and one for you: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Kubuntu-New-RMs
[05:57] <wileee> cleanup Isle 4
[05:58] <wileee> ;)
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon to all
[12:27] <daftykins> hallo \o
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> hey daftykins :p
[12:32] <daftykins> what film did we see? :D
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> 10 things i hate about you
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> old college comedy
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/is-that-ubuntu-touch-or-ubuntu-desktop-the-answer-is-both-496123.shtml
[12:47] <daftykins> :)
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> they all ZZzzzZZ in #ubuntu
[12:49] <daftykins> it is a strangely quiet day!
[12:51] <daftykins> just ordered in a £160 IPS 2560x1440 27" HannsG display last night for someone
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> nice
[12:51] <daftykins> they also want to drive it from a really cheap laptop, so i've just spotted a basic looker... http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00Y0LWQAW ;)
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> looking good
[12:53] <daftykins> weird it only has one DIMM slot, so 8GB RAM max! D:
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> can always add ssd later
[12:55] <daftykins> indeedy
[12:55] <daftykins> i saw a cheap HP on another site, to get RAM in you had to take the whole thing apart O_O
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> yeah i had one the same to change a cmos battery
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> even screen had to come off
[12:56] <daftykins> >_<
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[14:32] <pauljw> Hi everyone
[14:54] <daftykins> heya \o
[14:54] <daftykins> how do? :)
[14:54] <pauljw> good daftykins thanks. you? :)
[14:55] <daftykins> yep all good here ta :) just digging into a clients email issue
[14:56] <pauljw> fun
[16:03] <daftykins> EriC^^: o/
[16:03] <daftykins> i always feel our 'customers' have such warped perceptions of what 'broken' 'doesn't work' and fix' mean
[16:03] <EriC^^> yeah that's true
[16:07] * daftykins is an overthinker ;)
[16:09] <EriC^^> i think you're pretty practical
[16:13] <EriC^^> i've been learning a shit load of magic tricks
[16:16] <ioria> hi. anyone knows where the ubuntu log of yestarday is ? i can't find here http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/12/
[16:18] <daftykins> the 7th was missing the other day too, when OerHeks looked i think?
[16:19] <daftykins> i reckon there's a coverup going on :D
[16:19] <ioria> thanx
[16:19] <EriC^^> lol
[16:27] <OerHeks> Yes, last log was the 11-3 ?
[16:28] <ioria> it misses from 3/11 to 12/11
[17:37] <daftykins> well Eczan was a complete idiot
[17:39] <TJ-> did I miss something :D
[17:44] <daftykins> guy asked which kernel to pick during a server install, i said i wasn't sure of any time you're asked that during server installs... eventually he gets so worked up that i'm claiming he's 'lying' he leaves saying he'll get help elsewhere
[17:44] <daftykins> all in his own head O_O
[17:48] <TJ-> weird
[17:49] <TJ-> 'purple screen' certainly sounds like the Plymouth splash screen
[18:00] <TJ-> It's about time we started charging a 'frustration deposit' !
[18:00] <daftykins> :D
[18:01] <TJ-> it's true - some skin on the table usually makes people think first :)
[18:01] <daftykins> "i have problems but you're not allowed to see... here's a darkened room, there are no lights... tell me what this object is"
[18:01] <TJ-> oh ... and you can't touch it
[18:09] <daftykins> so in other news i've gone into the business of extracting blood from stones
[18:12] <daftykins> i have no idea what you do in situations where a system has somehow been using funky partitions the whole time :D
[18:19] <TJ-> it may be corruption; it may even be misreporting somehow... I've simulated this by creating a large HBA on a disk *after* it was partitioned - and some PC manufacturers hide their Windows recovery images in an HBA
[18:20] <TJ-> regardless of the partition, the ext* tools will read the metadata and superblock to tell us if the file-system instide matches any of the partition dimensions we can see or deduce
[18:47] <daftykins> Vizio TVs were in the news recently for having a policy where they sell what you watch to marketing :) you have to opt out!
[18:48] <TJ-> Doesn't surprise me; folks have allowed themselves to become the product by using all those 'free' web applications like Google, Facebook, et al
[18:49] <daftykins> :D
[18:49] <daftykins> they can be pretty impressive though!
[18:49] <daftykins> i'm starting to think it's spaghetti bolognese time
[18:51] <TJ-> Already making it here :)
[18:51] <daftykins> i tried something new and cooked two portions of mince at once, so tonight will just be heating up
[18:52] <daftykins> that bellflower has one funky disk alright
[18:52] <TJ-> I often make large stews that last 1/2 a week :)
[18:53] <daftykins> ah, see i've been very hesitant toward this 'leftovers' approach
[18:53] <daftykins> it's very alien to me
[18:54] <TJ-> it's not leftovers, that implies scraps. It's efficient production!
[18:55] <daftykins> true :>
[18:56] <daftykins> looks like another one i didn't catch due to assuming their setup again!
[18:59] <TJ-> It's the whole 'incomplete data' issue - in-person you pick up a lot of stuff simply by looking. With remote support you have no context at all, so you've got to specifically identify everything
[18:59] <DosTuMai> If I make more, means I eat more. Not a good thing because I hate seeing food sit there.
[19:04] <daftykins> heh
[19:05] * daftykins helps out with that
[19:05] <TJ-> You need to learn self-control :)
[19:06] <DosTuMai> Once cooked 3 days worth of food. Felt like it was a waste to leave it sitting there. Ate the lot.
[19:06] <DosTuMai> OCD doesn't help with that. Food is for eating.
[19:08] <DosTuMai> Main reason I like to stick with Gnome classic.
[19:09] <daftykins> true, no food in that DE
[19:09] <TJ-> ffs! bellflower! I'm off for dinner, can't take any more
[19:10] <daftykins> XD
[19:11] <daftykins> me too, RUN whilst the going's good!
[20:38] <Pici> OerHeks: fyi, ubottu doesn't do channel logs, thats ubuntulog's job.
[20:38] <OerHeks> Pici, oh oke, we were missing some logs lately, today is running.
[20:39] <Pici> yeah, I think it might have been a netsplit related problem
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[02:42] <oacy> hello everyone, the dd command to create an image of a drive partition (sdb1) on another drive would be the same as when creating the drive (sdb) image, I guess; 'sudo dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=path/to/image/file bs=...' ?
[02:44] <oacy> in other words, could I just replace sdb with sdb1, when i am imaging not the whole drive, but a partition of it?
[02:54] <thsohn_> Hello World
[02:56] <smokeless> oacy https://askubuntu.com/questions/512059/using-dd-command-to-create-bootable-usb-stick
[03:04] <oacy> smokeless, it is not for booting. it is just a partition image.
[03:06] <dudu> hello
[03:09] <wa_r_ch_i__ld1> hey, anyone know how to submit browser based authentication popups?
[03:10] <Guest8401> alguém me lembra como atualizar o ubuntu MATE?
[03:15] <sruli> hi, i want to change the boot order in grub, how can isee the current order while logged in to system?
[03:17] <wileee> sruli, you might run past us what your doing, grub has built in tools.
[03:18] <sruli> wileee: 1. change boot order, 2. not to display grub, just boot into first option and to see grub menu user has to hold down shift or some other key
[03:18] <wileee> sruli, what all is on the computer and in grub?
[03:19] <sruli> wileee: windows, ubuntu and debain, i want to boot windows
[03:19] <sruli> wileee: and when i wat linux i will hold down shift key on boot
[03:20] <wileee> sruli, Ah, you can set grub to default to windows. The hidden grub is the hard part with multi OS is all, not really sure you can.
[03:21] <wileee> sruli, there is a timeout that grub sits at, messing with smaller times is the general method, you want to get to grub for recovery at the least.
[03:21] <sector_0> hey guys
[03:21] <sector_0> I have a problem with my cd command
[03:21] <isReKT2000> In what way?
[03:21] <sector_0> whenever i use cd I can't "select" files from the new current directory
[03:22] <isReKT2000> Unusual.
[03:22] <sector_0> for example let's say I have a file "file.txt" in the home directory...
[03:22] <isReKT2000> Okay.
[03:22] <sector_0> if I do "cd /home"
[03:22] <sector_0> I can't for example do "vi file.txt"
[03:23] <isReKT2000> then you can't do nano or emacs etc etc
[03:23] <wileee> sruli, What ever OS is at the top of grub has the grub control as of now, the ubuntu or debian assuming nothing has been removed in either with grub.
[03:23] <isReKT2000> is nano working?
[03:24] <sector_0> ok maybe I used a bad example
[03:25] <isReKT2000> maybe; maybe not
[03:25] <zykotick9> sector_0: ahhh cd /home wouldn't be your user's home directory. try "cd" by itself to get to home.
[03:25] <isReKT2000> good idea zykotick9
[03:25] <wileee> sruli, I suspect your not fully understanding, could be my explanation, ask anything you need to.
[03:25] <sector_0> zykotick9, I know I was just using a example
[03:25] <sector_0> proper example that I just tried...
[03:26] <sector_0> I did "cd ~/Desktop"...
[03:26] <isReKT2000> cd by itself?
[03:26] <sector_0> now there's a folder there named "stuff"
[03:27] <sector_0> normally if I start typing "/stu" and I hit tab it would auto complete..this doesn't happen
[03:27] <SchrodingersScat> sector_0: having a leading / means starting from root
[03:27] <zykotick9> sector_0: don't start with /
[03:27] <sruli> wileee: i dont want a timeout, i know its not easy to do on mulit os boot, but i still dont want grub viewable on boot, when i need it i will hold down the shift key
[03:27] <sector_0> ahhhh
[03:27] <SchrodingersScat> sector_0: it would just be stuff, or ./stuff or ~/Desktop/stuff
[03:28] <sector_0> my bad I guess
[03:28] <sector_0> sorry for the mix up
[03:28] <SchrodingersScat> tab complete wants to help you more than you think :)
[03:28] <wileee> sruli, seems like you been chasing this awhile?
[03:28] <Bashing-om> sruli: A common reference: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup#Configuring_GRUB_2 , Tutorial to do all you require .
[03:29] <sector_0> Everything is working fine now
[03:29] <sruli> wileee: u might have seen me around with all sorts of quiestion, solved all so far, this is my next issue ;-)
[03:29] <sector_0> ...but I swear to god this thing wasn't working a while ago
[03:30] <SubCool> Audio isnt playing to my HDMI output or USB Turtlebeach headset
[03:30] <SchrodingersScat> sector_0: you may very well have a bad case of ghosts, but regular #ubuntu can't help you there.
[03:30] <wileee> sruli, Mainly I'm trying to keep you away from 3rd party stuff, so I would look here, it has the boot pin for windows info as well, https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[03:30] <sector_0> SchrodingersScat, heheh
[03:31] <sruli> wileee: there are a few third party grub customisers, as u say i keep away
[03:31] <wileee> boot/grub/customizer is a bad choice is all
[03:32] <wileee> cool sruli your smarter than some there, easy trap, heh.
[03:32] <sruli> wileee: it seems on grub2 is easy to achieve, let me have a go, will let u know in a few min
[03:32] * wileee hides the gui kernel remover
[03:39] <goddard> anyone use entr know if I need to include the -R option for ls?
[03:39] <goddard> or will it understand it needs to go recursively?
[03:41] <sruli> goddard: to display sub dirs u'll have to use -R
[03:43] <Quaker> hello guys
[03:44] <goddard> sruli: right i understand how ls works just not entr
[03:46] <nudoge>
[03:47] <goddard> sruli: when i do ls -R . it works
[03:47] <goddard> sruli: when I do ls -R . | entr echo "file change" it just prints entr: cannot stat '.:': No such file or directory
[03:48] <sruli> goddard: reached my knowladge limit on ls, sorry
[03:52] <Bashing-om> goddard: As a thought, pass to entr the full path through the pipe ?
[03:53] <goddard> Bashing-om: no dice
[03:57] <SchrodingersScat> !ls | goddard
[03:57] <SchrodingersScat> goddard: or go to #bash and !ls
[03:59] <goddard> SchrodingersScat: not really asking about ls exactly
[03:59] <goddard> SchrodingersScat: more entr
[04:00] <SchrodingersScat> goddard: try find then?
[04:00] <SchrodingersScat> also, is that maybe an echo error? if it can't echo .:
[04:01] <SchrodingersScat> wait, nvm :(
[04:23] <chris1> jsia
[04:23] <me-1> hi... I want to edit /etc/grub.d and add http://paste.ubuntu.com/13245153/ but dont know what to replce in my setup with http://paste.ubuntu.com/13245161/
[04:23] <Quaker> jsia
[04:23] <chris1> where r u guys from
[04:23] <Quaker> i m from france
[04:23] <chris1> oh i m from Malaysia
[04:24] <Ariaoktaviandapu> hey
[04:24] <wa_r_ch_i__ld1> is there a way to write a bash script to insert text into a browser popup?
[04:24] <chris1> can i install unity desktop environment in backbox 4.4
[04:25] <Ariaoktaviandapu> ada yg indo???
[04:27] <Ariaoktaviandapu> backbox 4.4
[04:28] <k1l> !backbox | Ariaoktaviandapu
[04:28] <wileee> wa_r_ch_i__ld1, Humor us, why?
[04:29] <Ariaoktaviandapu> i,m not install backbox just kali linux 2.0
[04:29] <wa_r_ch_i__ld1> @wileee im trying to embed this NTLM (microsoft auth) protected site, and the end user doesnt want to have to enter their credentials
[04:29] <wa_r_ch_i__ld1> id like to have some sort of script to enter the credentials in the popup but dont know if thats even possible
[04:31] <Ariaoktaviandapu> you change localhost in my internet
[04:35] <SchrodingersScat> !info xautomation | wa_r_ch_i__ld1
[04:37] <uRock> I installed the latest kernel in 14.04 using "sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-vivid" will removing "linux-headers-generic" stop me from getting the 3.13.* kernel updates?
[04:39] <SchrodingersScat> wa_r_ch_i__ld1: if you really wanted to you could make patterns of the popup, have it scan for that in the screen, click it, type in the password, etc. Although wmctrl may make selecting it easier if not already, and then tabs to find the password box and submission button.
[04:39] <k1l> !kali | Ariaoktaviandapu
[04:39] <k1l> kali is not even based on ubuntu. please seek their support
[04:40] <sruli> wileee: i managed to get hidden grub on dual boot
[04:40] <wileee> sruli, cool, how?
[04:44] <sruli> combination of things, 1. in /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober the template has something like " if timeout set = 0 then set 10" so what ever u don in etc/default/grub it will get overwritten on update-grub, so i changed to 'set 0' 2. I added 2 entries on /etc/defualt/grub/ GRUB_FORCE_HIDDEN_MENU=true and GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden, i dont know if those 2 entried had any effect as i only got it working after fixing the os-prober template
[04:48] <wileee> sruli, Did you update grub after the additional commands?
[04:49] <TJ-> sruli: You almost got it but made the wrong change. That "timeout=10" is only written into grub.cfg *if* quick_boot =1 - 12 lines above your change is quick_boot="1". Change that to quick_boot="0" and the timeout won't be changed, nor will the timeout_style
[04:52] <aarobc> so, according to this guide http://www.se7ensins.com/forums/threads/how-to-setup-a-gaming-virtual-machine-with-gpu-passthrough-qemu-kvm-libvirt-and-vfio.1371980/ there should be a /usr/share/qemu/bios.bin but I've installed everything possibly relating to qemu and there still is no bios.bin to be found in that directory
[04:52] <SubCool> Ok, would someone mind working with me on Dropbox. I am using it in a headless environement, but its acting all weird. I remove all the files http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1583040 - but. it still isnt woring properly. When i try to use it after setup, it doesnt start, restart - anything.
[04:53] <SubCool> ive done apt-get, ive done the headless installation. im about to do a remote ver upgrade of my OS, WHich i doubt will work. but- im trying.
[04:53] <sruli> wileee: yes i updates grub after changes
[04:53] <sruli> TJ-: i will try that now, u are tlkaing about os-prober file, right?
[04:55] <sruli> TJ-: what about GRUB_FORCE_HIDDEN_MENU=true and GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden are they required?
[05:00] <TJ-> sruli: yes, that file. if you look at that stanza, the settings are only written into grub.cfg (by the cat <<EOF) in adjust_timeout() when "if [ "$quick_boot" = 1 ] && [ "x${found_other_os}" != "x" ];" - both conditions need to be TRUE. so force quick_boot = 0 and the condition will never be true
[05:00] <sruli> TJ-: what about GRUB_FORCE_HIDDEN_MENU=true and GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden are they required?
[05:01] <TJ-> sruli: I'm not entirely sure, there are so many permutations it gets confusing without testing them :D
[05:01] <wileee> hallelujah says the chorus
[05:01] <TJ-> sruli: GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden would normally be set that way
[05:01] <sruli> also i guess setting i made is good to hide the grub, but i cant get it by pressing any key ! have to boot live cd not and change
[05:02] <TJ-> sruli: right, always best to set the timeout=1 so Shift is still detected
[05:03] <sruli> TJ-: but i do not want the menu visable, i set GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=3
[05:03] <me-1> hi.. I dont see grub menu at start
[05:05] <wileee> me-1, See anything at all, shift may show something esc if W8-10
[05:06] <sruli> TJ-: i have 2 entries for quick_boot =1, i should set both to 0?
[05:07] <me-1> wileee, no blank black screen and then ubuntu logo and it boots directly into ubuntu . I dont have other OS
[05:07] <TJ-> sruli: it depends on what code generation they control
[05:08] <wileee> me-1, try running sudo update-grub to bring it up to date. Have you changed grub or removed another OS?
[05:09] <me-1> wileee, I have updated it and it doing the same from day 1
[05:09] <sruli> the fist one is in the begining of the file, prefix="/usr" exec_prefix="/usr" datarootdir="/usr/share" quick_boot="0
[05:09] <TJ-> sruli: looking at the code in 00_header and 10_linux, quick_boot won't affect 'timeout' there
[05:09] <wileee> me-1, Err, my error, when you have just ubuntu you need to hit the shift key to see grub, or esc if uefi.
[05:10] <wileee> grub is bypassed with single installs, you have to key it up
[05:10] <me-1> wileee, ok try and see . thank you
[05:10] <TJ-> me-1: how many monitors do you have?
[05:10] <wileee> no prob, sorry for any confusion.
[05:10] <me-1> TJ-, one
[05:10] <TJ-> me-1: OK
[05:11] <sruli> TJ-: so what do i change to allow key press to show grub?
[05:11] <aarobc> shift
[05:12] <sruli> tired shift, doesnt show
[05:12] <sruli> also tried esc
[05:12] <TJ-> sruli: when do you press the key?
[05:13] <TJ-> sruli: because the transition from firmware POST to GRUB is so fast, I generally hold shift down whilst POST is still reporting so its down when GRUB gets control
[05:14] <sruli> i hold it down fro the start
[05:14] <TJ-> sruli: Is it UEFI or BIOS?
[05:14] <sruli> UEFI
[05:14] <havoc-hive> I am running ubuntu 15.10 on a optiplex 745. I threw in a linsys usb wifi and cannot get it to work. any help or suggestions?
[05:14] <TJ-> sruli: is the keyboard USB or built-in
[05:15] <sruli> built in , laptop
[05:15] <TJ-> sruli: OK, none of the obvious issues there, then
[05:15] <TJ_> GUYS I NEED HELP, but there are so many channels. I need help with unencrypting my home directory from a ubunu live.
[05:15] <TJ_> the command doesnt work...
[05:15] <TJ_> What channel should I join?
[05:16] <sruli> TJ_: what command r u running to mount it?
[05:16] <TJ_> The one it says to do, one sec
[05:16] <TJ-> sruli: Sometimes, on some laptops, the key codes seem to mess things up. Try Ctrl as well :)
[05:16] <TJ_> ecryptfs-mount-private
[05:16] <TJ_> ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[05:17] <TJ-> TJ_: "sudo ecryptfs-recover-private /target/home/.ecryptfs/${USER}/.Private" - assuming you've mounted the root file-system at /target/
[05:17] <sruli> TJ-: ctrl doesnt do it either
[05:17] <havoc-hive> TJ_: i dont think you can unencrypt home in live mode, only in installed
[05:17] <TJ-> sruli: weird!
[05:18] <TJ-> havoc-hive: yes you can!
[05:18] <sruli> TJ_: what response do u get?
[05:18] <TJ_> Well sruli, It didnt say error
[05:19] <TJ_> It says Seraching for encrypted private directories
[05:19] <sruli> TJ_: does it say searching for encrypted....
[05:19] <TJ_> Yeah Its asking for my password
[05:19] <sruli> TJ_: and it stays at that?
[05:19] <sruli> TJ_: ther eu go enter ur password
[05:20] <TJ_> It said sucess but I still cant go in through GUI :(
[05:20] <lickalott> Hey all. Had an odd issue today. I have a 32" tv that I decided to try to use as a monitor. I tried VGA which works okay but it's not digital. So I tried HDMI. Even with the same resolution the desktop won't fit in the tv screen. The launcher is off the screen. Is there a way to correct this? I don't have a scaling option on this particular tv.
[05:20] <TJ_> If It mounted like it says where did it mount too?
[05:20] <sruli> in unity dash enter gksu nautilus
[05:21] <TJ-> TJ_: usually under /tmp/ecryptfs.XXXX/
[05:21] <TJ_> Oh I see it now
[05:21] <TJ_> that part was covered by the irc
[05:21] <TJ_> Let me see what I got
[05:21] <TJ_> AWESOME
[05:22] <TJ_> THANKS A TON
[05:22] <TJ_> I was about to shoot my computer
[05:22] <TJ_> Yeah my computer wouldnt start it said that something was wrong with the graphics
[05:22] <TJ_> I could only boot up in live
[05:23] <TJ_> I could get through the disk encryption but not home
[05:23] <TJ_> thanks guys
[05:25] <sruli> TJ_: how could u get throught eh disk encryption?
[05:26] <TJ-> sruli: I assume TJ_ meant LUKS/dm_crypt root file-system
[05:29] <sruli> TJ-: i changed the template to quick boot on live cd, wierd thing is running update-grub on live cd removes windows from grub menu
[05:29] <TJ-> sruli: is os-prober running?
[05:30] <TJ-> sruli: you can run it manually to test it "sudo os-prober"
[05:30] <sruli> TJ-: not sure, running update-grub from normal boot noew
[05:32] <sruli> setting timeout to 0 in os-prober does not allow grub menu at all
[05:32] <sruli> TJ-: is there a way i can test grub changes without a restart?
[05:32] <john_nash> hi, somehow my kid pressed some keys as a result of which everytime i press a key it says the same aloud
[05:33] <john_nash> lol, how to disable that sound?
[05:33] <OerHeks> john_nash, Insert+Q to quit orca reader
[05:34] <john_nash> where is insert
[05:34] <Giraffe_> not a full keyboard john_nash?
[05:34] <OerHeks> ins,next to del
[05:34] <sruli> john_hash: settings > Universal Access > Seeing > turn off Screen reader
[05:35] <TJ-> sruli: there's the emulator but that takes a heck of a lot of setting up
[05:35] <sruli> TJ-: so we'll stick to the 5 minute cycle on every test
[05:37] <john_nash> thanks its done
[05:37] <john_nash> so dumb of me
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> john_nash: we all here to learn mate
[05:39] <sruli> TJ-: how can i upadte-grub from live cd to include windows?
[05:39] <OerHeks> john_nash, so your kid has a high iq, have fun
[05:39] <john_nash> thanks :)
[05:46] <breakfronts> After setting my GTK appearance, gnome-terminal doesn't seem to be adjusting to it
[05:47] <lickalott> Anyone?
[05:48] <sruli> lickalott: no clue, sorry
[05:51] <Joanne> hello
[05:51] <Joanne> anybody on Ubuntu 15.10? I left the topic yesterday, had to move out
[05:52] <Joanne> If I delete any file using any file manager (and if the directory is a softlink), the file manager crashes
[05:54] <ussher_> Im finding my i7 with 16gig of ram and SSD becomes real slow by the end of the day and trying to figure out why. when scrolling it uses 99% of cpu of 1 processor: (htop screenshot) http://hostsaba.com/htop.png how can i figure out why?
[05:55] <wileee> ussher_, you scrolled htop?
[05:55] <Joanne> X is killing your CPU, taking 99%
[05:55] <sruli> ussher_: what hardware brand? (laptop / pc)
[05:56] <ussher_> scrolling phpstorm. in the morining its lightning fast, in the afternoon its horrible
[05:57] <ussher_> hardware is bits and pieces put together. graphic cards are 2x nvidia cards. going to look for other stuff now
[05:57] <Joanne> try getting a dstat report, if system is still slow, can you get sensors output?
[05:57] <breakfronts> My GTK3 theme settings are being ignored despite setting them with lxapperence and having a .config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini present. What could be the problem? GTK2 works fine.
[05:58] <Joanne> In my experience, leave the default GTK theme as much as possible, there are tons of GTK themes available for free in the market, however, the one that works the best is always the best
[05:58] <Joanne> not many people program GTK themes/icons the right way and it always breaks stuff
[05:59] <Joanne> and this wasn't a problem back for GTK2.x
[05:59] <ussher_> hardinfo report http://hostsaba.com/hardinfo_report.html
[05:59] <Joanne> its for GTK 3.x ... hasn't matured so much, and its still new
[06:03] <breakfronts> Joanne: I can't change my font of theme at *all*
[06:03] <breakfronts> that's an issue
[06:03] <mascot66991> Sorry if its not relevant for this irc beforehand
[06:04] <mascot66991> I had like to branch a development branch at my bitbucket repo how do i do that
[06:05] <mascot66991> i already have a development brnach at local and want another one as i am working on two different features and want to make different pull request for each and want commits to say different
[06:05] <mascot66991> anyone to the rescue
[06:06] <havoc-hive> i am having trouble install a usb wifi onto ubuntu 15.10. anyone with suggestions?
[06:06] <Ben64> havoc-hive: can you give more details? what problems are you having, which adapter is it
[06:07] <havoc-hive> Ben64: the adapter is a linksys wusb6300 and i am having problems with is showing up in any form on ubuntu
[06:08] <havoc-hive> Ben64: i dont think it is regestering at all with the computer cause its not even lighting up on the stick
[06:08] <havoc-hive> Ben64: the computer i am installing it on has no connection to internet at all
[06:08] <breakfronts> My GTK3 theme settings are being ignored despite setting them with lxapperence and having a .config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini present. What could be the problem? GTK2 works fine.
[06:13] <havoc-hive> can anyone help walk me through on making a bridge connection between laptop and desktop?
[06:17] <ussher_> sruli: that hardware info any use? I tried to use dstat to watch the cpu, but it doesnt seam to change at all even with htop saying 99%
[06:18] <sruli> some times with brands like toshiba and sony i get high cpu and could'nt resolve
[06:19] <ussher_> my guess is its something to do with the graphics cards, but dont know how to figure out how to fix it. Not sure how to identify what the cause is.
[06:20] <ussher_> The current solution of rebooting in the middle of the day is getting to be a bit of a pain, so was hoping to try to fix it.
[06:20] <Ben64> havoc-hive: seems like you'd need to download an compile a driver for that adapter
[06:22] <karex_> Hi everyone, what files should I get/extract to analize system security (access, etc)? I tried to google it, but not succeeded yet.
[06:22] <karex_> I mean log files
[06:23] <karex_> Is there a list of common log files to analize in practice?
[06:24] <fs> hello
[06:25] <ussher_> karex_: /var/log/auth.log will show you whos been trying to access your machine.
[06:25] <havoc-hive> Ben64: I figured out how to bridge the connections. I found the drivers and how to install them through terminal. I will do that... thanks
[06:26] <fs> 你好
[06:33] <Lucax> Hello, I want to transfer my files to my Seagate external drive, 3T but now I read that Ubuntu 32 bit is not able to connect with a seagate drive larger than 2.2T, is there a workaround without reinstalling to a 64?
[06:34] <Quaker> you can try to make an ftp server
[06:34] <Quaker> if you have a second computer it can work
[06:34] <Quaker> but from what to where Lucax
[06:35] <Lucax> practically what is happening is: the Seagate will appear, but I can not create new folders or drag and drop folders from my computer onto the external
[06:35] <somsip> Lucax: boot to a live cd that's 64 bit, mount your local drive and your external drive, copy
[06:35] <Lucax> Quaker: from my local drive to seagate external
[06:35] <EriC^^> why can't a 32bit access it? O.o
[06:36] <wowa_s> Invalid AABB aabb
[06:36] <somsip> EriC^^: yeah, I don't get that either but maybe it's a real thing
[06:36] <wowa_s> what?
[06:36] <Quaker> yes he s right from a live cd you can do it
[06:36] <wowa_s> /join #333
[06:37] <Lucax> I dont know really what is the problem, but the ext-drive won't take the files from my drive + the option of creating a new folder is greyed out
[06:37] <Quaker> i dont understand why an external harddrive plugged with USB cant connect
[06:37] <somsip> Lucax: so it's just mounted without write permissions then?
[06:37] <Lucax> perhaps
[06:37] <Quaker> chmod
[06:38] <trijntje> This is a bit of a vague question, so I'd be happy with a vague answer. I have two laptops with the same make and model, both running 14.04. On one, a particular bioinformatics analysis takes 40 hours to run, on the other it only takes 6 hours. Does anyone have any pointer on where to start looking for an explanation?
[06:39] <Lucax> somsip, how to change the write permissions?
[06:39] <Lucax> maybe it is read only
[06:39] <nils17> hi. I want to batch rename some folders I am finding with FIND... and cut off the last 4 characters away from these folders names.. how can I do that? (e.g. folder1abcd leads to folder1)
[06:39] <somsip> Lucax: you should really change the way it's mounted, but once it is mounted you can usually get access using chmod
[06:40] <EriC^^> nils17: are the last 4 chars the same?
[06:40] <Quaker> trijntje, hd speed ?
[06:40] <trijntje> nils17: with the cut command ;)
[06:40] <somsip> Lucax: http://askubuntu.com/questions/138878/changing-file-permissions-on-usb-external-hard-drive
[06:40] <Lucax> Nils! install Pyrenamer, it is excelent
[06:40] <Lucax> or GPRename, it is equally helpful
[06:41] <trijntje> Quaker: I hadn't thought of that, thanks. They do have the same model harddisk, but pretty new so one could be having issues
[06:41] <nils17> hi.. its for use in a script.. so terminal would be cool..
[06:41] <trijntje> though the analysis is not very IO dependent
[06:41] <nils17> e.g. find / -type d -exec ..................................
[06:42] <EriC^^> nils17: are the last 4 chars the same?
[06:42] <nils17> yes.. in THIS case they are the same.. but I asked about "last 4 characters" to learn about that
[06:43] <Lucax> When I want to mount my Seagate Ext-drive I get this: mount: only root can mount /dev/sdb1 on /mnt/usb-Seagate_Backup+_Desk_NA5K6YRY-0:0-part1
[06:43] <Lucax> ??
[06:43] <hateball> !sudo | Lucax
[06:43] <nils17> trijntje: yes.. can you help me combine the cut command with find / exec / mv ?
[06:43] <Quaker> trijntje, does it have many programs running ?
[06:44] <hateball> nils17: you can use the rename command as well, it accepts regexp
[06:44] <nils17> I know that at the moment: find / -type d -exec mv {}
[06:44] <nils17> and THEN??
[06:45] <trijntje> Quaker: I dont think so, its a pretty standard install as far as I know, I haven't added a lot of services or anything like that
[06:45] <trijntje> nils17: you should probably take some time to read about bash, this channel isn't really the place for these kind of basic questions
[06:46] <hateball> nils17: Also there is #bash which may be helpful
[06:47] <Lucax> to run as sudo, does it simply mean to type the sudo command in terminal and pop! I have authority to do whatever I like, like mounting my ext-drive?
[06:48] <EriC^^> yes
[06:52] <Lucax> does $ mean that I am running as Sudo?
[06:52] <Lucax> and does Superuser and Sudo mean the same?
[07:01] <jeff_> 你好
[07:01] <jeff_> 是我
[07:01] <fs_wsf> 你好啊
[07:01] <linux> hello
[07:01] <somsip> !zh | jeff_ fs_wsf
[07:01] <linux> 哈哈哈
[07:02] <linux> ^_^
[07:02] <linux> o(∩∩)o
[07:02] <fs> 吴老师好 】
[07:02] <linux> 丁甲真傻逼
[07:03] <EriC^^> !ops | multiple nicks from 49.74.60.123 flooding in chinese
[07:03] <xiaoyu> xiaoyu come
[07:07] <Lucax> how to mount my drive as sudo, I dont get why this should be so difficult, isnt there a simple GUI solution for beginners, to mount an ext-drive is a beginners issue, not for techies
[07:07] <EriC^^> Lucax: you should be able to click on it in the filemanager
[07:08] <Lucax> yes it should be that easy but it is not mounted, it asks me to mount from root
[07:08] <EriC^^> ok so type sudo mount /dev/sdxY /mnt
[07:09] <Lucax> just like that or do I have to replace something in your command with my own details?
[07:09] <EriC^^> Lucax: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 and paste the link here
[07:11] <Lucax> atcha, blooming terminal is just showing blinking
[07:11] <Lucax> now it is ok
[07:12] <EriC^^> link?
[07:12] <Lucax> sorry no link
[07:12] <Lucax> mount: special device /dev/sdxY does not exist
[07:13] <EriC^^> sudo parted -l...
[07:13] <Lucax> it gave no result
[07:13] <EriC^^> type sudo parted -l
[07:13] <EriC^^> paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[07:13] <Lucax> ok I have the link
[07:16] <EriC^^> ok
[07:16] <Lucax> I just have to sign up to this paste.ubuntu
[07:16] <Lucax> what is paste.ubuntu?
[07:16] <sruli> TJ-: u around, i fixed it! 1 minor change in templates!
[07:17] <Lucax> can I come back to you Eric, I have lunchtime here
[07:17] <sinisterdoor> is it true that libreoffice doesn't support page border clip art?
[07:18] <ashok> hi
[07:18] <wileee> sinisterdoor, You look in the onboard manual?
[07:18] <andrew_46> ashok: hi :)
[07:18] <ashok> ehat
[07:19] <ashok> how u
[07:19] <sinisterdoor> wileee,sure :P .it doesn't say anything about that.I checked http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/23126/artistic-edges/ but it's 2013 so I am not sure if it's current as of 5.0.3
[07:19] <andrew_46> ashok: I am well but bear in mind this is a support channel....
[07:19] <sinisterdoor> I want this: http://www.farhangnews.ir/sites/default/files/content/images/story/91-11/08/15.jpg
[07:20] <ashok> sorry bro i want to need best thems can i apply
[07:20] <ashok> i need help
[07:21] <wileee> you sure do
[07:21] <ashok> yas
[07:22] <wileee> sinisterdoor, Not sure really without doing the looking around, I'm a fan of using the app that shows what your trying to do as an example however.
[07:22] <ashok> theams
[07:25] <sruli> what would be the safest way to clone a installation partition
[07:25] <somsip> !info clonezilla | sruli (or just plain dd)
[07:26] <hateball> sruli: clonezilla-live is a nice way
[07:26] <sruli> somsip: if i clone partition to another drive, how do i install the boot?
[07:27] <somsip> sruli: if you do a bare metal clone, AIUI it will copy *everything*
[07:28] <sruli> i dont want to copy full drive, i have 4 os's i want to copy 2 os's drives are not same size, will it still work?
[07:30] <somsip> sruli: I dont follow you.
[07:31] <sruli> somsip: i dont want to clone the full hard drive only 3 partitions, also if the target hard drive is not the same size as source will it work?
[07:32] <somsip> sruli: if the target is bigger, you will need to resize the partition to whatever you want it to be after.
[07:32] <sruli> ok, tnx
[07:36] <Kartagis> how can I stop update manager asking me if I want to install 3.16.* kernel packages?
[07:37] <DJ_HaMsTa> i just installed vnc into my vps. im trying to connect but its actively refused. the tightvnc server is running, what can be causing my error?
[07:38] <DJ_HaMsTa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13245932/
[07:38] <cynixx3> I am trying to add a repository to sources.list but when I run apt-get update I get a 404 error. The URL is wrong because apt-get adds a /packages directory when the repo doesnt have that. What do I do?
[07:39] <wileee> cynixx3, this a ppa?
[07:40] <cynixx3> no, archives.deb.org
[07:40] <wileee> cynixx3, what release?
[07:40] <cynixx3> squeeze
[07:40] <wileee> that is debian, you're using a debian repo are you?
[07:41] <jrb_> #zftalk
[07:41] <cynixx3> oh crap. I'm using ubuntu 15.10. not compatible?
[07:42] <wileee> no
[07:42] <cynixx3> okay well here is my goal, get php 5.3.~10
[07:42] <wileee> cynixx3, precise?
[07:42] <Lucax> When I want to adress someone in particular with colors, how do I do that here on mIrc?
[07:43] <hateball> !tab | Lucax
[07:43] <cynixx3> I would have thought lucid.
[07:43] <somsip> !who | Lucax
[07:43] <wileee> cynixx3, if you can get that in 15.10 your in your own, not really supported here is all. If you had a good reason maybe.
[07:44] <wileee> s/in/on
[07:44] <Lucax> I just get a list of channelusers if I type tab
[07:45] <cynixx3> I have a php script that is not running on php 5.6, I do not know at which version it stopped working but I know it works on 5.3.10
[07:45] <somsip> Lucax: som{tab} gets me and 'someone', repeated tab cycles
[07:46] <Lucax> EriC^^: I have the link
[07:46] <cynixx3> Thanks for clarifying that repo issue wileee
[07:46] <wileee> cynixx3, No problem, hope you get the php thang resolved.
[07:51] <Quaker> i want to be a hacker
[07:51] <cynixx3> wileee, one more quesiton. How bad of an idea would it be to change all the repos to use lucid instead of wily and then install php 5.3.2?
[07:51] <Quaker> apt-get install brain
[07:51] <cynixx3> Then maybe change back and disable php upgrades?
[07:52] <mac1> Hi Quaker
[07:52] <wileee> cynixx3, bad idea really, that 5.3 can be gotten by deb, either install could throw in dependencies and libraries that conflict. This is a backwards way to go is all, fix the script to run.
[07:55] <wileee> cynixx3, I though OerHeks posted a php lin earlier that showed the dispersal per release and 5.3 was 12.0 still supported, maybe conform this and do a vm or dualboot.
[07:55] <wileee> link*
[07:55] <Quaker> hello mac1
[07:55] <wileee> sorry 12.04
[07:56] <Quaker> what do i need to be a good at making programs ?
[07:56] <Quaker> and hack
[07:57] <mac1> Quaker, First learn Python Language.
[07:57] <wileee> being able to read a channels topic would be your start
[07:58] <Quaker> yes
[07:58] <Quaker> indeed
[08:06] <Lucax> pardon moi franceux, heuv on se earth can moi procedure with mounting moi external 'ard drive?
[08:06] <wileee> !fr
[08:11] <alpaca_sida_xD> eseeee
[08:11] <alpaca_sida_xD> jajajaj ful xd
[08:12] <alpaca_sida_xD> ey?
[08:12] <alpaca_sida_xD> hola?
[08:12] <alpaca_sida_xD> someone here?
[08:12] <alpaca_sida_xD> dick
[08:22] <trijntje> How can I display which installation media was used to install ubuntu? I know its possible because it get included automatically in bug reports, but I don't know where to find it on my system
[08:25] <trijntje> found it in /var/log/installer/media-info
[08:27] <Lucax> what if I quite simply run sudo mount-a?
[08:30] <NexusStar> could someone help me with installation problem of docker on trusty running in vmware?
[08:30] <wileee> !detail | Lucax in english
[08:30] <wileee> !details
[08:33] <Lucax> I am unable to mount my external drive and now I can not even see it in the filemanager, whenever I want to mount it asks me to run as root but I dont know how to do that, first of all since I am a beginner I look for GUI options quite naturally, now I am trying random commands and next is unknown....to man
[08:34] <trijntje> Lucax: the easiest thing is just to format it as fat or ntfs instead of ext
[08:34] <est31> is there a way to execute script hooks when an user logs in / logs out / the session gets locked / unlocked using lightDM?
[08:35] <NexusStar> I follow installation instruction from docker.com and when run docker --version it reports 1.9.0 but keeps Cannot connect to Docker daemon
[08:36] <wileee> NexusStar, Isn't docker a 3rd party?
[08:36] <Lucax> format it as fat or ntfs, the word format disturbs me a little, does it mean wiping out the files in the external drive or is this type of formating more of a reconfiguration or a formatchanging
[08:36] <NexusStar> wileee, Yes
[08:37] <trijntje> Lucax: no, if you format it you will lose all data on the disk
[08:37] <wileee> NexusStar, Not supported here is all you will have to follow other support is all.
[08:37] <NexusStar> wileee, you suggest ask this to docker channel?
[08:37] <wileee> if there is one yeah
[08:37] <Lucax> to format it to fat32 or ntfs means loosing all the data?
[08:37] <wileee> yes
[08:38] <Lucax> well then this option is not valid for me
[08:38] <NexusStar> wileee, ok
[08:38] <wileee> Lucax, Do now what the file system is now, ext?
[08:38] <Lucax> it is mac
[08:38] <Lucax> apple hfs
[08:38] <somsip> Lucax: htfs by chance?
[08:39] <wileee> Lucax, That is your problem, read only mount I believe if you get there generally.
[08:39] <Lucax> it says only HFS
[08:39] <pihpah> I am trying to run Ubuntu from a usb stick but all I get is Ubuntu's splash screen. How can I figure out what's wrong?
[08:39] <Lucax> aah wileee we are getting somewhere
[08:39] <est31> pihpah, try ctrl-alt-f1
[08:39] <wileee> pihpah, try hitting the shift key to see text.
[08:40] <trijntje> pihpah: you might see error messages if you hit the 'up' arrow. Else hold shift when starting the usb and select 'check cd for defects'
[08:40] <Lucax> it seems to be I can just change its format in Disks
[08:40] <trijntje> Lucax: dont do that!
[08:40] <Lucax> there is a long list within the Edit Partition option
[08:40] <somsip> Lucax: always best to give us all the information to avoid going round in circles. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus
[08:40] <Lucax> ok ok ok
[08:40] <somsip> Lucax: also http://superuser.com/questions/84446/how-to-mount-a-hfs-partition-in-ubuntu-as-read-write
[08:40] <trijntje> Lucax: easiest: go back to mac, backup all files, format ntfs or fat, put data back, use the disk on windows/linux and mac ;)
[08:42] <febritecno> hi
[08:42] <febritecno> alnoe
[08:43] <pihpah> nothing, looks like it's completely frozen.
[08:43] <pihpah> I suppose I have to turn off splash screen to see what's going on.
[08:44] <est31> yea try to disable the splash screen while it still works
[08:45] <pihpah> est31: I've tried, none of aforementioned methods worked.
[08:45] <wileee> pihpah, blackscreen any blinking cursor or anything?
[08:45] <pihpah> Nothing, just splash screen with Ubuntu logo.
[08:46] <wileee> pihpah, You know how to insert nomodeset?
[08:46] <pihpah> Something's wrong with my laptop. It takes about 5 minutes before I see grub menu.
[08:46] <est31> you boot off stick?
[08:46] <est31> perhaps there is a problem with your hdd
[08:46] <pihpah> yes, I do
[08:47] <est31> e.g. it scans first for the hdd, then sees the stick, and decides to boot from that
[08:47] <wileee> est31, for 5 minutes
[08:47] <est31> and scanning for the hdd takes time because it has problem
[08:47] <est31> just a wild theory
[08:47] <pihpah> est31: what if I disconnect my HDD, would that help?
[08:47] <est31> you could try
[08:47] <pihpah> ok
[08:47] <wileee> no wild theories please plenty if good support here
[08:51] <pihpah> est31: well, as I remember from my previous experience with broken hdd usually it took not much time to figure out that it is broken and can't be used. Not sure what changed since UEFI replaced the old BIOS.
[08:52] <pihpah> So why it takes so much time before system will try my usb stick, this is a question.
[08:53] <wileee> pihpah, You been to the uefi wiki?
[08:53] <pihpah> yes, I read about that.
[08:53] <wileee> first mention of uefi, kida crucial info
[08:53] <wileee> ]kinda*
[08:54] <Lucax> somsip: partitionally speaking. I still get nowhere
[08:54] <pihpah> Oh, here we go, grub menu showed up. As I said it took about 5 minutes.
[08:56] <est31> ah so it seems lightdm has hooks for login and logout
[08:56] <Lucax> somsip: I followed your links and it told I had to disable journaling, so I plugged my ext back to mac and checked but journaling is already disabled and the disks shows that it is read and write, does the disk appear as read and write only for mac and becomes read only for unix?
[08:57] <est31> but not for lock/unlock
[08:57] <est31> bad bad
[08:57] <somsip> Lucax: no idea myself. If I want to copy something to OSX, I scp it. I just remember people haveing problems mounting HFS+ before in here (not HFTS or whatever I said earlier)
[08:58] <Lucax> ok, thanks anyway
[08:59] <pihpah> So, this is it: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/ju4zcsp3rbcq6ob/AACLSewb6uxeyRm1yBTwWVmma
[09:05] <sruli> i am trying to install ubuntu-server 14.04.3 x64 from uefi usb stick , i get error "cd-rom drive contains a cd which cannot be used for installation..." how do i add ubuntu server iso to usb stick? i have other iso's (ubuntu desktop and others) which work fine from this stick
[09:08] <yoann_> salut ! je suis a la recherche d'un programme qui me permettrais de déclencher l'arret programmer mon ordinateur. merci
[09:11] <hateball> !fr | yoann_
[09:11] <yoann_> ok thank
[09:13] <EriC^^> sruli: dd the iso to the usb
[09:13] <EriC^^> sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M && sync
[09:17] <sruli> EriC^^: no, cp its a uefi usb so i have a load of iso's and grub.cfg menu, all live iso (ubuntu desktop etc) work fine, for some reason its not liking the mount of the usb, in syslog i get /dev/sdb1 is not a ubuntu cd
[09:18] <sruli> EriC^^: i wan to mount is a /cdrom but "umount /dev/sdb1" returns "invalid argument"
[09:21] <ocx> hello all
[09:22] <ocx> i am having dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 in my /etc/network/interfaces for some reason after a reboot the /etc/resolv.conf reads 127.0.0.1 what could be the problem?
[09:22] <EriC^^> sruli: not sure what you mean
[09:24] <sruli> EriC^^: when trying to install i get error "incorrect cdrom detected" installer is expecting it to be mounted at /cd-rom, so i want to umount usb and mount it to /cd-rom, but when i exec from tty2 "umount /dev/sdb1" i get an error "cant umount /dev/sdb1: invalid argument" so question is how do i umount it?
[09:25] <freddy> hi
[09:26] <freddy> i have a small problem
[09:26] <freddy> trie to use telnet
[09:26] <freddy> for a remote pc
[09:26] <EriC^^> sruli: you could try to mount bind /dev/sdb1 's mount location to /cd-rom
[09:26] <freddy> and its loading loading and nothing
[09:26] <ocx> i am having dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 in my /etc/network/interfaces for some reason after a reboot the /etc/resolv.conf reads 127.0.0.1 what could be the problem?
[09:27] <sruli> EriC^^: how do i find the current mount location from /bin/sh ?
[09:27] <EriC^^> type df
[09:28] <freddy> not even the ssh works
[09:28] <freddy> nor putty
[09:29] <freddy> can someone help me ?
[09:30] <sruli> EriC^^: its not mounted
[09:31] <freddy> anyone ?
[09:31] <EriC^^> sruli: this is an xy problem i think
[09:32] <est31> freddy, are you sure the remote pc has telnet?
[09:32] <est31> or ssh?
[09:32] <freddy> pretty sure
[09:32] <EriC^^> sruli: you say you have a bunch of iso's on a usb and you're running from grub the server iso and it says /cdrom can't be found?
[09:32] <est31> does ping work freddy ?
[09:32] <freddy> yes
[09:33] <sruli> EriC^^: only ubuntu server iso gives me this error
[09:33] <ren0v0> how do i connect my android 6 device to ubuntu?
[09:33] <ren0v0> it "connects" but directory is blank
[09:34] <Mathisen> ren0v0, sudo apt-get install mtpfs
[09:35] <est31> freddy, so it worked before, and now is broken?
[09:35] <ren0v0> Mathisen, nope, no change
[09:35] <est31> and is there a firewall between the remote box and you
[09:35] <freddy> actually it never worked
[09:35] <EriC^^> sruli: is the usb mounted somewhere?
[09:35] <freddy> for two days im trying now
[09:36] <EriC^^> sruli: is /dev/loop0 mounted?
[09:36] <ren0v0> Mathisen, seems they changed location of usb connection options
[09:36] <Mathisen> ren0v0, i dont know then :(
[09:36] <est31> ren0v0, what does sudo mtp-detect say
[09:37] <est31> can you put it onto a pastebin
[09:37] <freddy> IPTables isn't a problem all ports are enabled
[09:37] <sruli> EriC^^: i cant find where the usb is mounted, df is not showing it, neither is loop0 showing as mointed
[09:37] <ren0v0> est31, its fine, bloody android 6 changed location of the USB options, its now in notification bar and default is "charge only"
[09:38] <EriC^^> sruli: try sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:39] <est31> freddy, so it worked before?
[09:39] <est31> or you setting it up now
[09:39] <freddy> no
[09:39] <sruli> EriC^^: its text based installer not reached the point of network config yet
[09:40] <paulo> #list
[09:40] <est31> freddy, what does nmap -v -sT <address> say?
[09:40] <freddy> i check
[09:40] <sruli> EriC^^: df shows me 3 mounts "none mounted at /run" "devtmpfs mounted at /dev" and last one "dev/sda2 mounted at /dev" (sda2 is a windows fat32 boot part)
[09:40] <codeman2015> check
[09:40] <EriC^^> sruli: what does lsblk show?
[09:41] <sruli> command not found
[09:41] <sruli> i am in /bin/sh
[09:41] <freddy> okay now i see the problem
[09:42] <sruli> EriC^^: how to i force umount of sda2? that mounted to media and i guess thats cuasing the issue
[09:42] <est31> umount /dev/sda2
[09:42] <freddy> some idiot disabled is and only left 80 and 443 ports
[09:43] <freddy> last it had 25 and 22 too
[09:43] <sruli> est31: device busy.. i asked how do i force umount
[09:43] <freddy> never mind thanks any ways :)
[09:43] <est31> -f param?
[09:43] <est31> freddy, np
[09:44] <chotaz`w> Does this channel have logs?
[09:44] <sruli> est31: cant forcibly umount, device busy
[09:46] <est31> There is -l param too, but it has the potential of being destructive
[09:46] <Mathisen> chotaz`w, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[09:46] <est31> chotaz`w, look at greeting message by ChanServ
[09:46] <sruli> destructive to what? usb or hdd?
[09:47] <EriC^^> the filesystem
[09:47] <EriC^^> sruli: i think something else is wrong, i'd recommend googling the error
[09:47] <est31> best is to do lsof /dev/sda2
[09:47] <EriC^^> ( no offense just lazy )
[09:47] <est31> and then manually killing the involved processes
[09:47] <est31> or terminating otherwise
[09:47] <sruli> googled, for 2 hours now, nothing which helps
[09:49] <est31> sruli, it won't save opened data, but from what it seems it will at least keep the file system consistent
[09:49] <sruli> lsof command not found
[09:50] <est31> ah seems that lazy umount will stall until the device isnt busy anymore
[09:52] <wush> hello everyone, I have this command to make an image of a partition on another drive. could you please tell me if it's correctly set: 'sudo dd if=/dev/sdb3 of=/media/user/mypartitionname/mydisk.img bs=128M conv=noerror,notrunc' ?
[09:53] <est31> wush, I'd prefer ddrescue over dd with noerror param
[09:53] <est31> if your disk has errors, ddrescue is smarter
[09:53] <est31> and you can do logfiles
[09:53] <est31> its a bit slower though
[09:53] <est31> (logfiles make you save progress)
[09:54] <wush> est31, oh, I've used dd before, familiar is sort of easier as I am not too advanced in this
[09:55] <wush> just, I wanted to know if I could use it for a partition (sdb3) like above, as the same command when I used it for a whole drive (sdb) ?
[09:55] <est31> yes!
[09:55] <est31> welcome to unix :)
[09:55] <wush> est31, thank you!
[09:59] <wush> est31, there is also one more peculiarity. the partition in question, sdb3, is an extended partition. I wanted to image it in order for the image to contain all the partitions under it. would the image contain these?
[09:59] <wileee> wush, you don't image an extension but the partitons within
[10:01] <wush> wileee, so if I use sdb3 in the command, the partitions in there would be within the resulting image?
[10:01] <est31> wush, what does sudo hexdump -n 512 /dev/sdb3 say?
[10:01] <wileee> what command?
[10:01] <est31> "hexdump -n 512 /dev/sdb3"
[10:01] <est31> executed as root
[10:01] <wileee> man dd
[10:01] <est31> and output to a pastebin
[10:01] <est31> and link posted here :)
[10:04] <wush> est31, it is here: paste.ubuntu.com/13246523
[10:07] <est31> wush, that's LUKS
[10:07] <est31> its not an MBR partition
[10:07] <wush> est, correct
[10:07] <est31> probably it will save what you want to get saved.
[10:09] <zetheroo> just got an update for grub and Debconf pops up asking where to install GRUB to ... I selected the sda device and it's partition (where Ubuntu is installed on) and clicked "Forward" but the next screen says "Writing GRUB to boot device failed - continue?"
[10:09] <wush> est31, so the image would contain all partitions under extended partition, then?
[10:09] <vmusr> can I alter the dns server supplied by dhcp via dhcp-relay?
[10:09] <est31> wush, well the term "extended partition" doesn't apply here, because it is for mbr based partitions
[10:10] <wileee> zetheroo, this a uefi?
[10:10] <est31> but yes, the image would contain all virtual partitions
[10:10] <zetheroo> wileee: no idea (Thinkpad T440p)
[10:11] <wush> est31, but that's how the partition is labelled in disk utility. and also it says master boot record.
[10:11] <sruli> which debain based console can i install with eufi usb stick?
[10:11] <wileee> zetheroo, pop open another terminal and run sudo fdisk -l and pastebin it.
[10:12] <sruli> \\server with console not gui
[10:13] <zetheroo> wileee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13246551/
[10:13] <est31> wush, well it is possible that LUKS itself resides inside an mbr virtual partition, idk
[10:13] <est31> but only the LUKS partition is accessible through sda3.
[10:13] <wileee> zetheroo, you want grub in sda not a partition
[10:14] <wileee> that is the mbr
[10:14] <wush> est31, ok, thank you, I will just try and see what happens
[10:14] <est31> wileee, master boot record. old way to organize the partitions on the disk
[10:14] <est31> and to contain a small executable which boots the os
[10:16] <zetheroo> wileee: that's what I thought at first, but that too doesn't seem to work ..
[10:17] <zetheroo> if I tell grub to install to just /dev/sda and click "Forward" the next screen says "Continue without installing GRUB?"
[10:17] <zetheroo> and if I leave that option unticked and click again on "Forward" I am just taken back to the previous screen where I am asking where to install grub
[10:17] <wileee> zetheroo, are you sure your choosing correctly?
[10:18] <guest-PmYTg4> how does it work
[10:18] <zetheroo> http://tinypic.com/r/ao1ftc/9
[10:18] <zetheroo> wileee: ^
[10:19] <wileee> thanks
[10:19] <wileee> hold on
[10:20] <wileee> zetheroo, what brought up a gui, I usually see this in a terminal, a little confusing here for me.
[10:20] <zetheroo> Software Updater
[10:20] <wileee> zetheroo, Ah, so if you hit forward show me the screens you go through if you can if it errors.
[10:21] <zetheroo> http://tinypic.com/r/2w3wbbn/9
[10:22] <wush> est31, thank you for your help!
[10:22] <zetheroo> if I click "Forward" I go here: http://tinypic.com/r/9pz5z6/9
[10:22] <est31> np
[10:22] <zetheroo> wileee: and if I click "Forward" again I end up back at the previous screen
[10:24] <zetheroo> wileee: that grub-install error only shows up when I select sda1 to install gub to
[10:24] <wileee> zetheroo, not sure I follow that.
[10:24] <wileee> last statement
[10:24] <EriC^^> zetheroo: you're not supposed to install grub to a partition, usually it goes on the disk
[10:25] <zetheroo> wileee: http://tinypic.com/r/2w3wbbn/9
[10:25] <marlinc> Any idea when umake will support IntellIJ IDEA 15?
[10:26] <wileee> zetheroo, Have you used any other grub controller like grub customizer?
[10:26] <CAQUITAS> Me gusta hacer caquitas
[10:27] <wileee> time for food
[10:27] <CAQUITAS> time for poops
[10:28] <zetheroo> wileee: not that I can recall
[10:29] <zetheroo> EriC^^: yep - doesn't work there either ...
[10:30] <zetheroo> do I have to select both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb ?
[10:30] <zetheroo> sdb is just a data disk without any OS installed
[10:32] <zetheroo> well, kinda stuck here ... not sure what to do ...
[10:33] <wileee> zetheroo, open a terminal and run sudo grub-install dev/sda and see if it finishes
[10:34] <zetheroo> should I leave the Debconf windows open ?
[10:35] <zetheroo> "Installation finished. No error reported."
[10:36] <zetheroo> ok, so it worked in the terminal so I just selected the option in Debconf to not install grub and finished the update
[10:36] <wileee> zetheroo, strange than that it errors in that deb, same basic action, you can just finish it I think and confirm after with that command and a sudo update-grub just to have a look.
[10:36] <wileee> ah cool, even stranger, heh
[10:37] <zetheroo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13246639/
[10:37] <zetheroo> ^ that was done after the update closed
[10:38] <zetheroo> I noticed the package name of the grub update was beta2 - is that normal that beta packages are used on LTS releases?
[10:39] <wileee> zetheroo, I wonder if your changing of the time out caused this, grub should not be showing anyway.
[10:39] <wileee> normal yeah
[10:39] <zetheroo> ok
[10:40] <wileee> zetheroo, can you bring up grub if needed?
[10:40] <zetheroo> "I wonder if your changing of the time out caused this, grub should not be showing anyway." - not following you ..
[10:40] <zetheroo> on boot?
[10:40] <zetheroo> haven't tried ...
[10:40] <wileee> zetheroo, yes
[10:40] <zetheroo> whats the key to press? ... F8?
[10:41] <wileee> that timeout affects that, it is the wait time from grub to boot generall 10 seconds
[10:41] <wileee> zetheroo, shift
[10:41] <zetheroo> I guess I can try it next time I boot up
[10:41] <zetheroo> I didn't change any timeout settings though
[10:42] <wileee> zetheroo, hard to say, in these matters, I could swear I never swear, but I'm wrong. ;)
[10:42] <wileee> I forget
[10:44] <wileee> zetheroo, cool thing about grub especially in this basic use is that it can be purged and reloaded if needed, pretty flexible in fixing if goals are norm
[10:44] <Nairwolf> Hi, I've received an update of grub, and the menu seem doesn't work well
[10:44] <zetheroo> right ...
[10:45] <zetheroo> Nairwolf: ha ... you don't say :)
[10:45] <Nairwolf> it ask me where I want to install it, I choose my disk /dev/sda and he says me that nothing was choosen...
[10:45] <Nairwolf> zetheroo you have also an issue ?
[10:45] <zetheroo> Nairwolf: just finished sorting it out ;)
[10:45] <Nairwolf> okay, what have you done ?
[10:46] <zetheroo> I opened a terminal and did "sudo grub-install /dev/sda"
[10:46] <zetheroo> all was ok so I told the update gui to not install grub
[10:46] <wileee> Nairwolf, Hold on don;t just run commands
[10:46] <zetheroo> then did both "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" and "sudo update-grub" again in terminal
[10:47] <Nairwolf> okay, thanks
[10:47] <wileee> zetheroo, be very careful, don't just spit out your fix, people will run stuff.
[10:47] <zetheroo> Nairwolf: but you should be sure that you want to intall grub to /dev/sda and not some other device
[10:47] <Nairwolf> but it's strange that the gui menu doesn't want to recognize where I want to install it
[10:47] <Nairwolf> yes, i'm sure it's at /dev/sda
[10:47] <wileee> we have no idea the know sda for sdz
[10:47] <Nairwolf> it's where I have /
[10:48] <zetheroo> wileee: right - of course that is what worked for me ... may or may not work for someone else ..
[10:48] <zetheroo> Nairwolf: yeah, same here
[10:48] <wileee> cool
[10:48] <zetheroo> Nairwolf: what version of Ubuntu /
[10:48] <zetheroo> ?
[10:48] <Nairwolf> Xubuntu 14.04
[10:48] <zetheroo> same here
[10:48] <zetheroo> can you view the details of the updates?
[10:48] <zetheroo> like this http://tinypic.com/r/2w3wbbn/9
[10:49] <Nairwolf> I have /dev/sda1 for /boot/efi
[10:49] <Nairwolf> /dev/sda2 for /
[10:49] <Nairwolf> /dev/sda3 for swap
[10:49] <Nairwolf> /dev/sda4 for /home
[10:49] <wileee> STOP
[10:49] <wileee> Nairwolf, his was a msdos, not even close
[10:50] <zetheroo> yep, that's not the same anymore
[10:50] <Nairwolf> so, what I'm supposed to do ?
[10:50] <wileee> Nairwolf, should be uefi help along soon, matter of patience as usual, I wonder if there is a bug though.
[10:51] <zetheroo> wileee: but why not let him try to install grub via term ?
[10:51] <Nairwolf> sorry, my english isn't good, what do you mean bu "should be uefi help along soon" ?
[10:51] <wileee> zetheroo, uefi does not use the mbr
[10:51] <EriC^^> Nairwolf: try sudo grub-install
[10:51] <zetheroo> Nairwolf: can you get to seeing the details of the update like here: http://tinypic.com/r/2w3wbbn/9
[10:52] <wileee> zetheroo, hold back please let the regular uefi help, help.
[10:52] <zetheroo> wileee: roger that
[10:52] <zetheroo> ;)
[10:52] <wileee> ;)
[10:53] <zetheroo> I just am keen to know what package version it is
[10:53] <EriC^^> !info grub-pc trusty
[10:53] <wileee> !info grub 14.04
[10:53] <wileee> doh
[10:53] <EriC^^> zetheroo: yeah it's using a beta for grub-pc
[10:53] <EriC^^> !info grub-efi-amd64 trusty
[10:54] <Nairwolf> this is what I had after the gui update : http://paste.ubuntu.com/13246691/
[10:54] <EriC^^> zetheroo: it's always been like that though
[10:54] <zetheroo> ok
[10:54] <Nairwolf> I will try to make sudo grub-update
[10:55] <EriC^^> Nairwolf: that doesn't look like an error though
[10:55] <Nairwolf> some lines are in french, it is said for the line "adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration" -> done
[10:55] <zetheroo> Google-ing for "2.02~beta2-9ubuntu1.4 bug" turns up some reports ...
[10:56] <MoL0ToV> someone can explain to me why libreoffice 5.0 is available on windows and not on ubuntu?
[10:56] <Nairwolf> so, does I need to make "suod grub-update" or "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" ?
[10:56] <EriC^^> no
[10:56] <zetheroo> MoL0ToV: it's is ... just not in the official Ubuntu repos .. ;)
[10:56] <EriC^^> Nairwolf: what's the problem exactly?
[10:56] <MoL0ToV> when in official rep?
[10:56] <Nairwolf> I don't know
[10:57] <EriC^^> Nairwolf: why did you come here asking about grub?
[10:57] <Nairwolf> MoL0ToV : It's already in the recent release 15.10
[10:57] <zetheroo> EriC^^: I think he still has the Debconf dialog open ... !?
[10:57] <Nairwolf> EriC^^: Because I've received an update from grub and the gui didn't recognize my device
[10:57] <MoL0ToV> ok thx
[10:57] <EriC^^> Nairwolf: what gui?
[10:57] <zetheroo> EriC^^: same issue as I had with the Debconf dialog :)
[10:57] <Nairwolf> the gui for the grub-update
[10:57] <zetheroo> EriC^^: Debconf gui
[10:58] <Nairwolf> yes, maybe it's what zetheroo says
[10:58] <EriC^^> Nairwolf: ok, try sudo grub-install in the terminal
[10:58] <wileee> MoL0ToV, there is a ppa
[10:58] <Nairwolf> okay, it returns "installation done without errors"
[10:58] <Nairwolf> thanks ;)
[10:58] <zetheroo> like this http://tinypic.com/r/ao1ftc/9
[10:58] <EriC^^> Nairwolf: ok, type sudo update-grub
[10:58] <zetheroo> EriC^^: ^^
[10:59] <zetheroo> and this http://tinypic.com/r/9pz5z6/9
[10:59] <Nairwolf> it's done
[10:59] <terminator_> hi all
[10:59] <Nairwolf> Why I had the gui interface ? I've never seen it before, and I've already seen grub updates
[11:00] <terminator_> how i cant install wine in back box ??/
[11:00] <Nairwolf> thanks guys ;)
[11:00] <terminator_> how i cant install wine in back box ??/
[11:00] <wileee> terminator_, ubuntu only here
[11:01] <terminator_> the back box base ubuntu
[11:01] <wileee> no derivatives
[11:01] <EriC^^> Nairwolf: no problem
[11:02] <zetheroo> MoL0ToV: to install on Ubuntu 14.04 and 15.04 from libreoffice repo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13246720/
[11:02] <zetheroo> I have it installed like this and it's fine.
[11:03] <phiona> im running windows in virtual box, is it ok if i dont install protection on it? like anti virus and firewalls?
[11:03] <CirclePixel> Goodnight overactive Linux distribution channel
[11:04] <akik> phiona: you should treat it the same way as your other windows boxes
[11:05] <zetheroo> phiona: if it's online it's just like any other Windows OS online
[11:05] <wileee> it's all in the delivery
[11:11] <MoL0ToV> zetheroo, i wait until is added to official repositories
[11:54] <jeffreylevesque> anyone know if this init script is correct - https://github.com/jeff1evesque/machine-learning/blob/master/puppet/template/vagrant_mounted.erb
[12:04] <Layan> hi
[12:07] <Layan> Xubuntu user hear??
[12:08] <Layan> any xubuntu user hear??
[12:12] <jacopo> ciao a tutti
[12:19] <Christian87> I would like to backup a file everytime as soon as it changes to another linux server. Is there a ready to run tool besides building something with inotify and rsync?
[12:19] <maxim> омг что я тут делаю?)
[12:23] <Gnjurac> hi where are my RSA keys located by default
[12:24] <cx405> Hi! I am looking for a "note taking" software, that saves notes as TEXT files, so they can even be manually edited or created. Syntax like Markup or similar. Is there such software?
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> cx405: maybe notepad++ ?
[13:07] <ruffleS> my screen flickers during boot process. is there any fix for it?
[13:08] <daftykins> is it stable once it reaches the desktop?
[13:09] <ruffleS> i get this error message. 4 lines of messages.
[13:09] <ruffleS> the flickering seems like the system is transitioning from one screen resolution to another
[13:09] <daftykins> ruffleS: do we get to see them?
[13:10] <ruffleS> daftykins, i think so, yeah... i could try to record it and upload it on youtube, i guess...
[13:10] <daftykins> well boot messages may just be in your boot log
[13:10] <ruffleS> daftykins, is it to be found in /var/log/boot ?
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> ruffleS: when did this all starting to happen?
[13:11] <daftykins> cat /var/log/boot.log; or perhaps dmesg
[13:11] <ruffleS> lotuspsychje, post install
[13:12] <sruli> I wan tot add Init=/bin/sh to grub for one of my debain boots (have 4 on my machine) however i dont want it to get overwritten on update-grub how can i resolve this?
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> ruffleS: no i mean, since when did you ahve this error?
[13:12] <ruffleS> i'll try to find the error message. bbl
[13:12] <sruli> sorry meant ubuntu
[13:12] <daftykins> sruli: are you one of those folk that run debian then lie to us to get help? :)
[13:13] <sruli> daftykins: lol no,
[13:13] <sruli> i'm a die hard ubuntu
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> sruli: and you dualboot with debian?
[13:14] <sruli> lotuspsychje: no it was a stupid typo as the last few forums i researched this were debain...
[13:14] <sruli> i dual boot 4 ubuntu's
[13:15] <sruli> anyone can help with this?
[13:16] <ggherdov> Hello. I have an ubuntu VM on which I just "apt-get purge"-ed many kernels I don't use anymore (they kept piling up after each update). Now, err.. the machine doesn't boot anymore :)
[13:16] <ggherdov> I don't think I removed the current kernel, but something went wrong anyways. Whatever. I am now accessing the filesystem via a bootable ubuntu image.
[13:16] <ggherdov> Question: where would you go looking for anomalies? My first thought is to check what kernel GRUB is trying to load, but I don't find the /boot/grub/grub.cfg . Could this be the problem?
[13:16] <ruslan> guys, I have a strange problem I'm strugling with on ubuntu 15.04 on an intel NUC: When I move the mouse against the left edge of the screen, the screen crashes (becomes solid color - but is still on). At that point I cant do anything (not even switch to another tty).
[13:17] <daftykins> sruli: boot with 'text' appended to the kernel boot params if it's 14.04.
[13:17] <goale> hello everyone, I tried to create the image of an extended partition (using its device name in 'if='). my aim was to image not the whole drive, but only the partitions under extended partition. but the resulting image was only 1kB. what do I need to do only to image said part of the drive?
[13:17] <daftykins> sruli: i'm assuming you're after a console login only? no X starting?
[13:18] <daftykins> goale: what's the purpose of this? use clonezilla, it's a bootable ISO in itself as well as installable in live sessions.
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> ruslan: did you try this on LTS also?
[13:18] <sruli> daftykins: on that one i am after a /bin/sh
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | ggherdov tryed this?
[13:18] <ggherdov> lotuspsychje: thanks, will check
[13:19] <daftykins> sruli: yeah it gives a TTY login, so just login... or use recovery boot instead. you need to say what you're trying to achieve, right now it makes 0 sense.
[13:19] <goale> daftykins. it doesnt matter what I use. I need the part of disk to be copied
[13:19] <ruslan> lotuspsychje, no I didn't (this is a work computer). I've read about different graphics problems with NUC+Ubuntu but didnt find anything similar
[13:20] <goale> I dont need iso
[13:20] <goale> I mean only the extended partition to be copied, with partitions under it
[13:20] <daftykins> goale: i'm just saying clonezilla is excellent image taking software - so yeah, it actually is helpful - and i'm just saying multiple ways to run it, bootable or not.
[13:20] <daftykins> goale: you have to do the logical drives one by one.
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> ruslan: i would try LTS on it, at least to be sure having stable
[13:20] <sruli> daftykins: lets call it the fastest recovery boot ;-) . i did not get ur previous message, where do i put what text?
[13:21] <daftykins> sruli: no lets call it what it is - what are you trying to achieve?
[13:23] <sruli> i need quick and dirty access to 1 of my other installed os's
[13:23] <daftykins> so recovery console then, don't modify - just use it like it's designed to be
[13:23] <navin_> can I query about problems with my ubuntu os here, so that some one here can help??
[13:23] <daftykins> navin_: yep that's this channels purpose
[13:24] <ruslan> lotuspsychje: OK, I will try to free some time this weekend. I'll make it crash now, to see what syslog says brb
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> ruslan: and dmesg also
[13:24] <navin_> some keyboard keys like the symbols with number keys do no work with shift, some work with only right shift key, sometimes right arrow does not work
[13:25] <daftykins> ruslan: just make sure you're on the latest BIOS, with NUCs.
[13:25] <sruli> daftykins: i want quick access, no recovery comes close to the speed of booting with Init=/bin/sh
[13:25] <navin_> the problem occurs most of the time
[13:25] <navin_> pls help
[13:26] <daftykins> sruli: your query being about boot time is utterly ridiculous, i don't think that method is supported.
[13:26] <sruli> daftykins: well it works, i just dont want it to get overwritten in grub-update
[13:27] <navin_> some keyboard keys like the symbols with number keys do no work with shift, some work with only right shift key, sometimes right arrow does not work
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> ruslan: <daftykins> ruslan: just make sure you're on the latest BIOS, with NUCs.
[13:28] <daftykins> sruli: you're obviously adding it wrong, then
[13:28] <navin_> some keyboard keys like the symbols with number keys do no work with shift, some work with only right shift key, sometimes right arrow does not work
[13:28] <ruslan> lotuspsychje: I am
[13:29] <ruslan> lotuspsychje: Nov 13 14:22:41 rwd kernel: [21315.075261] [drm:valleyview_update_wm [i915_bpo]] *ERROR* timed out waiting for Punit DDR DVFS request
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> ruslan: ok, you can try an LTS liveusb perhaps, see how things work out there?
[13:29] <sruli> daftykins: u are saying if i add it to /boot/grub/grub.cfg it wont get overwitten on grub-update?
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> ruslan: could be a kernel thing also
[13:30] <daftykins> sruli: no i'm telling you that the way you're adding it, is wrong... and if you're editing that file... it says right at the top "don't edit me"... /etc/default/grub is the place to make changes
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> ruslan: you could tryout latest mainline kernel on 15.04 or testing 14.04.3
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | ruslan
[13:30] <daftykins> sruli: if you managed to skip past the direct warning which says 'do not do this' then something bad is happening :)
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> ruslan: in your case, would be nice to file a new Bug also for future NUC installers
[13:32] <navin_> shift+number keys not working please help
[13:32] <ikonia> not working where ?
[13:35] <navin_> ikonia: the symbols are not displayed when I press shift + number keys, although they work on rare occassions
[13:36] <sruli> daftykins: therefore i am asking where would be the right place to put it!?
[13:36] <daftykins> sruli: i just said that didn't i.
[13:37] <daftykins> sruli: i guess you read IRC about as well as you read th grub.cfg :)
[13:37] <daftykins> *the
[13:37] <ruslan> ubotto, lotuspsychje: thx for the help
[13:37] <ikonia> navin_: where are you trying this ?
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> ruslan: no sweat mate, hope it helps
[13:39] <navin_> ikonia_: say, i am writing in a text box and I want the 'hash'( symbolshift+3) or brackets in the 9 and 0 keys, it does not get displayed
[13:39] <sruli> daftykins: my original question was where would be the place to put it ;-)
[13:41] <daftykins> sruli: right but you're actually going about the task wrong, so that had to be enquired upon.
[13:42] <navin_> the shift+ number keys not giving expected symbols, pls help
[13:43] <sruli> daftykins: among the reasons i divorced windows years ago was the freedom doing what the hack u want in linux without a big Bill telling yae or nay
[13:44] <urbanendeavour> what does this mean?
[13:44] <urbanendeavour> Failed to fetch https://apt.dockerproject.org/repo/dists/ubuntu-trusty/Release Unable to find expected entry '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/docker.list/binary-amd64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> urbanendeavour: have you added ppa's?
[13:45] <navin_> the shift+ number keys not giving expected symbols, pls help
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> navin_: have you chosen the right keyboard layout?
[13:45] <daftykins> sruli: that's a really poor attitude, logic and sense still applies, try and bear that in mind.
[13:46] <cx405> Hi! I am looking for a "note taking" software, that saves notes as TEXT files, so they can even be manually edited or created. Syntax like Markup or similar. Is there such software?
[13:46] <navin_> lotuspsychje_: yes..
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> navin_: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[13:47] <navin_> lotuspsychje_: ubuntu 14.04
[13:47] <sruli> daftykins: 100%, i dont mess around on my work machine, but i fell in love with linux and i love the freedom of being able to do new and wierd stuff on my hobby pc
[13:47] <retnadar> cx405: I use zim
[13:47] <urbanendeavour> lotuspsychje, it was malformed
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> navin_: ubuntu should choose the right keyboard for you, maybe its your hardware thats broken?
[13:47] <navin_> lotuspsychje_: ubuntu 14.04 lts 64 bit
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> urbanendeavour: what you mean?
[13:48] <urbanendeavour> I had an error in the file
[13:48] <daftykins> sruli: #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> urbanendeavour: have you added ppa's of any kind to install software?
[13:48] <navin_> lotuspsychje_: they do work sometimes and they work perfectly in livecd
[13:48] <urbanendeavour> no
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> navin_: what kind of keyboard is this?
[13:49] <navin_> lotuspsychje_:laptop keyboard
[13:49] <sruli> daftykins: tnx for all ur help upto now ;-)
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> navin_: what brand of laptop?
[13:49] <sruli> daftykins: u r a gentleman
[13:50] <navin_> lotuspsychje_:compaq presario a900
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> navin_: you sure its set to azerty or qwerty correctly?
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> navin_: chosen the right language layout for keyboard?
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> navin_: if livecd worked good, somlething else happened meanwhile
[13:51] <navin_> lotuspsychje_: other keys are working gine. it is the right language layout, i have checked..
[13:52] <navin_> lotuspsychje_: i don't understand what happened
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> navin_: have you played with keyboard settings after you installed?
[13:52] <navin_> lotuspsychje_: no, i have looked onto it only after the problem arised..
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> navin_: might be interesting to look at bottom of laptop what default language your compaq has
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> navin_: then compare keyboard in ubuntu setup
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> navin_: you could also try recoverymode/fix broken packages
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | navin_
[13:55] <navin_> lotuspsychje_: there is no specific language written at the bottom.
[13:55] <navin_> how to try recoverymode/fix broken packages??
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> navin_: enter grub and choose recoverymode
[13:56] <navin_> lotuspsychje_: what should I do after that?
[13:56] <haskell_> Hi, is there a tool that let's me restrict incoming/outgoing traffic, i.e. I would like to manually specify what sites I would like incoming traffic from, and what sites I would like outgoing traffic to go to?
[14:04] <daftykins> haskell_: ##networking
[14:04] <haskell_> daftykins, thanks, I guess doing something on ubuntu os doesn't always make it #ubuntu ;)
[14:09] <cx405> Hi! I am looking for a "note taking" software, that saves notes as TEXT files, so they can even be manually edited or created. Syntax like Markup or similar. Is there such software?
[14:13] <daftykins> haskell_: :) that's my take anyway!
[14:13] <retnadar> cx405, did you take a look at Zim? It uses markdown, saves in plain text files and can be edited or read in a regular editor if necessary.
[14:19] <linuxuz3r> how do i get kernel keys for ubuntu
[14:20] <linuxuz3r> for signing modules
[14:28] <linuxuz3r> yo
[14:28] <linuxuz3r> how do i get kernel keys
[14:30] <daftykins> not sure if anyone knows what you mean, i certainly don't
[14:30] <daftykins> hence no replies
[14:30] <linuxuz3r> for one thing the linux kernel is now secure
[14:30] <daftykins> what are you trying to achieve?
[14:30] <linuxuz3r> im compile a graphics driver
[14:30] <linuxuz3r> svgaII
[14:30] <linuxuz3r> vmwgfx
[14:30] <linuxuz3r> ko
[14:31] <linuxuz3r> it says something is tainted
[14:31] <linuxuz3r> not tainted but doesnt have the right signature
[14:31] <linuxuz3r> when i load it
[14:31] <daftykins> can you try and reduce the amount of enter key presses you use? it makes your messages very spammy and harder to read.
[14:31] <linuxuz3r> i need to sign the kernel module
[14:31] <linuxuz3r> sorry
[14:31] <linuxuz3r> its side effect of using bash
[14:32] <daftykins> no it's the youth of today's impatience :)
[14:32] <isReKT2000> irssi?
[14:32] <daftykins> maybe if you pastebin'd that output someone could take a glance
[14:34] <akik> linuxuz3r: you don't have to worry about the tainted message. it is just saying the the module has some other kind of license than gpl
[14:34] <linuxuz3r> but my apps are crashing
[14:35] <linuxuz3r> it gives me module: module function error cannot allocate memory
[14:35] <Skyrider> Greetings everyone
[14:36] <Skyrider> I wish to reinstall my VPS.. Should I install Ubuntu 14.04 or 15.04. (server)
[14:36] <akik> linuxuz3r: and when you compiled it, there were no errors?
[14:36] <linuxuz3r> no
[14:36] <linuxuz3r> i tried several programs
[14:36] <Pici> Skyrider: Since 14.04 is an LTS, I highly suggest using that...
[14:36] <Skyrider> 15.04 isnt lts yet?
[14:37] <Myrtti> no, it's not
[14:37] <Skyrider> Thanks :)
[14:37] <Pici> Skyrider: LTS releases are every 2 years, so 12.04, 14.04 and 16.04 (being released in April)
[14:37] <cfhowlett> Skyrider, 15.04 will NEVER be LTS
[14:38] <Skyrider> because of never versions over 15.xx?
[14:38] <cfhowlett> 12.04 > 14.04 > 16.04 ... see the pattern
[14:39] <Skyrider> ah, double, thanks :)
[14:39] <Pici> Skyrider: if you haven't realized it already, the ubuntu version numbers are the YEAR.MONTH of release.
[14:39] <waz_> hi3
[14:40] <akik> linuxuz3r: https://github.com/Canonical-kernel/Ubuntu-kernel/blob/master/Documentation/module-signing.txt maybe that will help you. i haven't touched that ever
[14:40] <akik> linuxuz3r: there's info of those keys
[14:45] <niva> hey guys I am getting kernel panic's with the BCM43228 . Any ideas ?
[14:46] <rud0lf_> Hi
[14:46] <Skyrider> hi
[14:47] <rud0lf_> I have added "/media/rud0lf/LinuxData/android-studio/bin" in bashrc. When I see $PATH, it shows the path .
[14:47] <rud0lf_> But it also says: "/media/rud0lf/LinuxData/android-studio/bin:/media/rud0lf/LinuxData/android-studio/bin: No such file or directory
[14:47] <rud0lf_> "
[14:47] <rud0lf_> I dont understand.
[14:48] <quaker> me too
[14:48] <rud0lf_> Why is it happening? What have I missed? Btw I have also added theat partition in fstab in order to auto mount it.
[14:49] <rud0lf_> Can something wrong there affect this?
[14:50] <ikonia> rud0lf_: pastebin your bashrc
[14:50] <linuxuz3r> did you do export PATH=$PATH:directory1:directory1?
[14:50] <linuxuz3r> did you do export PATH=$PATH:directory1:directory1 ?
[14:52] <rud0lf_> This is my fstab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13247763/ and this is my bashrc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13247772/
[14:52] <rud0lf_> I did not write export :|
[14:53] <rud0lf_> Someone told me to add the line " PATH=$PATH:directory1:directory1" only
[14:54] <ikonia> rud0lf_: why do you have the "user" option set ?
[14:55] <rud0lf_> ikonia, the description was saying that user option means any user can mount it. SoI thought this is what I need.
[14:55] <rud0lf_> Is it wrong? Should I use defaults?
[14:56] <ikonia> no no, nothing to cause an issue
[14:56] <ikonia> so if you do "echo $PATH" now, what do you see ?
[14:57] <rud0lf_> /home/rud0lf/anaconda3/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/media/rud0lf/LinuxData/android-studio/bin:/media/rud0lf/LinuxData/android-studio/bin
[14:57] <ikonia> you have your android stuff listed 2 times
[14:57] <ikonia> but other than that, looks good
[14:59] <wa_r_ch_i__ld1> hey, anyone know how to enter a backslash (\) in xdotool key event?
[14:59] <rud0lf_> Ah...I think I have also added it in .profile. But can it be the cause of the prob? Because I am still not able to execute a file in that directory.
[15:00] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: which file are you trying to execute?
[15:00] <netws> Guys in samba logs I have following message string_to_sid: SID @administration is not in a valid format, Im trying everything but I cant find a cause
[15:00] <netws> someone has an idea ?
[15:00] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, studio.sh for running android studio.
[15:01] <daftykins> netws: grep your configs for it
[15:01] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: type ls -l /media/rud0lf/LinuxData/android-studio/bin/studio.sh
[15:02] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, ls is aliased to `ls --color=auto'
[15:02] <rud0lf_> bash: type: -l: not found
[15:02] <rud0lf_> bash: type: /media/rud0lf/LinuxData/android-studio/bin/studio.sh: not found
[15:02] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: ok, well you typed type
[15:02] <ikonia> there you go
[15:02] <EriC^^> but ironically it told us the file doesn't exist
[15:02] <netws> daftykins: I have this group in smb.conf in write list and read list
[15:03] <OnkelTem> Hi
[15:03] <OnkelTem> Any ideas how to upgrade bash?
[15:03] <daftykins> netws: 'this group' ?
[15:03] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, Sorry...it says the file is there.
[15:03] <netws> daftykins: @administration group
[15:03] <OnkelTem> I have 4.3.11(1)-release, but it has some critical [for me] bugs, so I'd like to upgrade it
[15:04] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, -rwxr-xr-x 1 rud0lf rud0lf 6253 Oct 15 12:03 /media/rud0lf/LinuxData/android-studio/bin/studio.sh
[15:04] <daftykins> so comment out that line and reload and it'd likely go away
[15:04] <netws> daftykins: but it is there for some reason to restrict read operations for group @administration
[15:05] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: ok how are you trying to run the file?
[15:05] <daftykins> netws: right but it sounds like it doesn't like that usage, run testparm to confirm
[15:05] <EriC^^> you need to just type studio.sh to run it
[15:05] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, yeah..I am doing that only.
[15:05] <netws> daftykins: I have to recconect I will back in a momment
[15:05] <nedo> good evening
[15:05] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: try typing type studio.sh
[15:06] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, studio.sh is hashed (/media/rud0lf/LinuxData/android-studio/bin/studio.sh)
[15:06] <nedo> can someone help me??
[15:07] <cfhowlett> !help | nedo
[15:07] <nedo> ok sorry
[15:07] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, I dont know. It was working yesterday. Now I cant run it from the directory also.
[15:08] <ikonia> so thats the problem you need to work on
[15:08] <ikonia> not the path one
[15:08] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: i think it's complaining about something else
[15:08] <EriC^^> ( the script itself )
[15:08] <EriC^^> maybe it uses the cwd or something
[15:09] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, if I try to run it from the directory, it says permission denied :|
[15:09] <nedo> i have installed linux mint 17.1 with dual boot on my asus..Unfortunately i have discovered that i have installed a 32-bit version instead of a 64-bit version
[15:09] <nedo> what problems could give it to me????
[15:09] <ikonia> nedo: you need to talk to mint support
[15:09] <ikonia> nedo: not ubuntu support
[15:09] <ikonia> !mint | nedo
[15:09] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: type head -1 /path/to/studio.sh
[15:10] <nedo> i apologize
[15:10] <ikonia> nedo: not a problem
[15:10] <nedo> thank you
[15:10] <netws_> daftykins: I executed testparam but nothing special beside warning about one share longer than 12 characters and older clients may have problems with it
[15:10] <nedo> good bye
[15:10] <angelica> hi i m new to linux i mast install this: wps-office-9.1.0.4968-1.a19.i686.rpm is correct if i type this: sudo apt-get install wps-office-9.1.0.4968-1.a19.i686.? in the softwer centeer or there is more to it?
[15:10] <ikonia> angelica: no
[15:11] <ikonia> angelica: rpm is not meant for ubuntu
[15:11] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, head: cannot open ‘/path/to/studio.sh’ for reading: No such file or directory
[15:11] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: use the actual path
[15:11] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, Same error
[15:12] <angelica> aw so what i should install ?ata
[15:12] <ikonia> angelica: what do you want to install ?
[15:12] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: can you open the file somehow?
[15:12] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, I can open it with gedit.
[15:12] <angelica> i can enter in it i think is like a unzip but duno how install stuff
[15:13] <ikonia> angelica: what do you want to install ?
[15:13] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: i think you've mounted the filesystem with noexec, or you're missing a shebang
[15:13] <angelica> wps office like
[15:13] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: check the first line for #!/something/here
[15:13] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, #!/bin/sh
[15:13] <EriC^^> type mount | grep /LinuxData
[15:14] <angelica> http://wps.com/linux/
[15:14] <angelica> i m from windows XD
[15:14] <angelica> installed xubuntu
[15:14] <daftykins> angelica: who told you to use this suite?
[15:15] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, /dev/sda12 on /media/rud0lf/LinuxData type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,data=ordered,user)
[15:15] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: ok, it's mounted with noexec
[15:15] <EriC^^> meaning you can't execute files
[15:15] <xahn> hi
[15:15] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: edit /etc/fstab if you want it removed
[15:15] <daftykins> angelica: is there a reason you want to use it instead of Libre Office which comes with xubuntu?
[15:16] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, so there is something wrong with my fstab. Because I added "UUID=015be9bb-8fb7-44a7-9f2c-f712d573582e /media/rud0lf/LinuxData ext4 user 0 0" there
[15:16] <angelica> a compiuter guy because i ask for a low memory requirement for this pad because he lagged badly with windows xp
[15:16] <rud0lf_> The user option is wrong.
[15:16] <EriC^^> i think user lets anybody mount it, and noexec is implied with it
[15:16] <daftykins> angelica: i don't think there'd be much to gain; but you needed to pick the i386 .deb file download to install
[15:16] <EriC^^> if you want anybody to mount it, but can execute anything then use user,exec to override
[15:17] <daftykins> angelica: however, this is a very unwise method of installing software on xubuntu because it won't get updated
[15:17] <cfhowlett> angelica, wps is more demanding than libreoffice. also, less developed and maintained.
[15:17] <ikonia> angelica: if he's out of resources on XP - this isn't going to help
[15:17] <angelica> aw so i mistake i piked the 686
[15:17] <howlymowly> hi everyone.. short question: I set my "default" python environment in ubuntu 15.10 to python 3.5 with this command: "sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/python3 python3 /usr/bin/python3.5 10" how do I change it back to python 3.4?
[15:17] <zykotick9> rud0lf_: i'd suggest you try "users" instead, just a test - might not work.
[15:17] <daftykins> angelica: you also chose an rpm which is for Redhat/CentOS
[15:17] <daftykins> angelica: do you know how much RAM you have?
[15:17] <ikonia> change 3.5 to 3.4
[15:17] <cfhowlett> angelica, exactly ^^^ . there is a .deb available from the wps site
[15:18] <howlymowly> ikonia: done that, did not work ;)
[15:18] <angelica> i can check
[15:18] <ikonia> define did not work
[15:18] <rud0lf_> zykotick9, ok. EriC^^ there is also an option defaults which implies: rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,nouser,async.
[15:18] <howlymowly> ikonia: when I type in "python3" it still starts the python3.5 console instead of the python3.43
[15:19] <rud0lf_> or user,exec will do?
[15:19] <ikonia> howlymowly: check if the symlink has been updated
[15:19] <angelica> mm maibe not is not in the system as i used to be lol
[15:20] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: what do you want it to do?
[15:20] <howlymowly> ikonia: /usr/bin/python3 it points to /etc/alternatives/python3 ??
[15:20] <cfhowlett> angelica, http://wps-community.org/downloads
[15:20] <angelica> don, know how check my ram XD
[15:21] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, the drive is always attached to my PC. I just want the partition to auto mount and to be used normally.
[15:21] <angelica> ty alot
[15:21] <howlymowly> ikonia: and /etc/alternatives/python3 points back to python3.5
[15:21] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: ok, use defaults then
[15:22] <Turnip_Green> angelica click the icon in the top right of the desktop and select "About this computer". It will tell you how much RAM you have.
[15:22] <howlymowly> so... ;) ikonia any idea, what I did wrong? I mean the command worked to change to python3.5 from python3.4 ...
[15:22] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, defaults implies nouser. Does that mean a user can not mount or unmount it?
[15:22] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: maybe defaults,nosuid
[15:22] <EriC^^> yeah, but it will be automounted when you boot anyways
[15:22] <daftykins> angelica: if it was too bad for XP, no ubuntu will save your machine.
[15:23] <rud0lf_> EriC^^, All right... I will try :) Thanks a lot
[15:23] <angelica> well before didnt worked at all now im talking with u :)
[15:23] <PC_Ubuntu_Guy> daftykins depending on the spec of the XP machine, perhaps Xubuntu might work better in regard to a lighter DE
[15:24] <angelica> top right i have the clock
[15:24] <angelica> u mean left the blue mouse ?
[15:24] <cfhowlett> angelica, lubuntu is optimized for older computers. or perhaps lubuntu.
[15:24] <Turnip_Green> Directly next to the clock
[15:24] <Turnip_Green> It looks like a small gear.
[15:25] <EriC^^> rud0lf_: no problem
[15:25] <daftykins> PC_Ubuntu_Guy: not even close if XP ran bad :P
[15:26] <angelica> i will try it but wish to try understand this a bit before i move to try and install another not quite an expert
[15:26] <PC_Ubuntu_Guy> :-) only trying to add to your helpful suggestions, as I'm not fully following the conversation for this one
[15:26] <angelica> is hard for me to find the ram because my version is in italian too
[15:26] <daftykins> angelica: perhaps #ubuntu-it has some people
[15:27] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu | angelica, try lubuntu first.
[15:27] <angelica> is ubunto softwere center ?
[15:27] <zykotick9> angelica: from a terminal, "free -m" might show you the RAM
[15:28] <angelica> total 1495
[15:28] <angelica> there are other voice
[15:28] <angelica> used free cache etc
[15:28] <Infamous> uff thats not alot
[15:28] <cfhowlett> angelica, ubuntu will not give you anything close to satisfactory results on that small amount of ram. lubuntu or perhaps xubuntu.
[15:29] <zykotick9> angelica: it was the total that you wanted.
[15:29] <angelica> i have xubuntu in this not ubuntu
[15:30] <Infamous> angelica, you can just remove unity for xfce on your current installation
[15:30] <Infamous> you dont have to switch distros for that
[15:30] <angelica> yea in true was a small notepad my mom had with xp but not fuctional with 1giga i think i upgraded another 500 then put xubuntu in
[15:31] <angelica> think viruses but hardware issue too
[15:31] <daftykins> hmm not too bad, then.
[15:32] <daftykins> angelica: so yeah just use the office xubuntu came with
[15:32] <shome> What do most of you think of xfce ?
[15:32] <angelica> with this its working but i dont know to install stuff
[15:32] <shome> I happen to love it
[15:32] <daftykins> shome: this isn't a place for opinions, support only - #ubuntu-offtopic for chat :)
[15:32] <angelica> ok can read exel stuff too ?
[15:32] <daftykins> yes it has a word processor, spreadsheet... etc.
[15:33] <angelica> my main issue is not nececary the wps i wanted to install but installing stuff in general
[15:33] <angelica> clueless
[15:34] <angelica> sudo mast be a comand line
[15:34] <angelica> since here there are no exe duno what is bin to install ?
[15:35] <cfhowlett> angelica, sudo apt install <packagenamegoeshere>
[15:36] <angelica> ok thank alot is enought the pakage name or i mast tyoe the place he is in ? like windows like c/download etc ?
[15:36] <zykotick9> angelica: additionally, if you are trying to install a DEB that you've downloaded "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb"
[15:36] <daftykins> angelica: you never install anything that way, it's not like Windows at all.
[15:36] <angelica> nice
[15:36] <daftykins> angelica: don't install from .deb or manual downloads at all, use the software centre :)
[15:37] <zykotick9> daftykins: makes installing the requested WPS difficult...
[15:37] <daftykins> !manual | angelica might be a good idea to have a look at this
[15:37] <daftykins> zykotick9: right but we've established there's no need to install it.
[15:37] <zykotick9> daftykins: ahhh, i missed that part
[15:37] <angelica> thank alot guys
[15:37] <zykotick9> daftykins: don't get me wrong, i agree with the "stick to the repo" suggestion :)
[15:38] <daftykins> zykotick9: :)
[15:45] <angelica> :) if stuff are in zip , gz or rpm i mast umpak them before installing ?
[15:46] <teward> angelica: ZIP and .gz are just compressed files, usually containing source code that you have to compile, or they have an executable you run to install.
[15:46] <daftykins> angelica: as i've already said, you don't install software this way.
[15:46] <teward> angelica: .rpm is an already built package, but it's not for Ubuntu...
[15:47] <teward> and you don't install software this way
[15:47] <teward> (not usually)
[15:48] <angelica> ok got it :)i m hiwired on windows sr guys
[15:49] <pauljw> angelica: find the software manager for xubuntu in the menus and use it for finding and installing available files from the repositories.
[15:49] <sirscrubsalot> I have an old HP-Compaq tablet... is there a version of ubuntu that will support most of the tablet's features such as the tablet-stylus wacom features? (it originally came with windows xp tablet edition). 2gb ram / intel core duo / model : HP TC4400
[15:50] <sirscrubsalot> ~2006 was the release date of that tablet ^^
[15:52] <pauljw> angelica: it may be referred to a a package manager.
[15:53] <angelica> i see so there are some compatibile with xubuntu
[15:53] <angelica> noobwise easy to instal
[15:54] <pauljw> angelica: yes, each distro has a source of files that are compatible with it. using the proper repositories will insure that you don't break your system installing new software
[15:55] <angelica> since there is no wps in it may i ask the libre office included in xubuntu can open a exell with pasword from office of windows cause wps could another i dont remember the name couldntt
[15:56] <angelica> abiword is here i think
[15:57] <angelica> not sure if open exel sheet to thank all alot sr for my bad english
[15:57] <terminator_> who has vpn for ubuntu??
[15:59] <pauljw> angelica: i have no idea about the ability to open a password protected spreadsheet or not. all i can say is try.
[15:59] <terminator_> who has vpn for ubuntu??
[15:59] <angelica> installing libre office from the softwere center u gave me guys at least i think
[15:59] <angelica> sure will do:)
[15:59] <decci> I am trying to build .DEB package
[16:00] <decci> pkg-gencontrol: warning: Depends field of package srvadmin-omilcore: unknown substitution variable ${shlibs:Depends}
[16:00] <decci> I am able to build .DEB package but still I see this warning..is it serous/
[16:00] <EriC^^> decci: did you use dh_make ?
[16:00] <decci> EriC^^:yes
[16:00] <EriC^^> to make the templates?
[16:01] <decci> EriC^^: I ran debian/rules clean && build && binary which runs dh_*
[16:01] <decci> EriC^^: Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}
[16:01] <decci> EriC^^: Its control file where we specify the shlibs dependencies
[16:01] <EriC^^> odd, i think that's standard
[16:02] <decci> EriC^^: Though I can override it on rules file, but still I want to know how to get this fxied
[16:02] <decci> fixed
[16:02] <decci> EriC^^: But looks like it is trying to execute something which it is not able to
[16:02] <EriC^^> it looks like it doesn't like the variable there
[16:03] <decci> EriC^^: override_dh_shlibdeps: dh_shlibdeps --dpkg-shlibdeps-params=--ignore-missing-info
[16:03] <EriC^^> ${shlibs:Depends}
[16:03] <decci> EriC^^: If I pass it in rules file, the warning doesnt appear
[16:03] <decci> EriC^^: but I am not sure what effect will it bring when I instal this package
[16:04] <EriC^^> decci: what are you making a package of?
[16:05] <EriC^^> and will you upload to your ppa on launchpad?
[16:06] <EriC^^> ( cause launchpad is really whiny about packages, it doesn't even like if the description contains the package name as the first word )
[16:07] <isReKT2000> well
[16:07] <isReKT2000> i'm preparing to install ubuntu (i'm downloading the iso)
[16:08] <daftykins> isReKT2000: ok?
[16:11] <decci> EriC^^: As of now I am just packaging it..no plans to put in launchpad
[16:11] <decci> EriC^^: I just want to fix dhlibs issue
[16:11] <EriC^^> decci: what is it?
[16:11] <EriC^^> c program with Makefile ?
[16:12] <decci> EriC^^: This is just a small system management tool
[16:12] <decci> EriC^^: pkg-gencontrol: warning: Depends field of package srvadmin-omilcore: unknown substitution variable ${shlibs:Depends}
[16:13] <decci> https://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2001/10/msg00289.html
[16:16] <Eczan> hello guys
[16:16] <Eczan> iif anyone is available to help me with installing ubuntu please tell me
[16:18] <daftykins> Eczan: just ask when you get stuck
[16:18] <daftykins> !manual | Eczan but read here for more
[16:18] <Eczan> i have ubuntu 14.10 cd i want to add it into vmware , but there is no .iso file , only iso settings files
[16:19] <daftykins> Eczan: 14.10 is already EOL, so don't install it
[16:19] <Eczan> what is EOL ?
[16:19] <daftykins> !eol
[16:19] <daftykins> it's dead, Jim.
[16:19] <Eczan> ok
[16:20] <Eczan> !download ubuntu
[16:20] <daftykins> so grab yourself a supported release - LTS is generally best, as it'll remain in updates until 2019
[16:20] <daftykins> so grab 14.04
[16:20] <k1l_> !download
[16:20] <k1l_> Eczan: see ^
[16:20] <Eczan> a
[16:20] <Eczan> aha
[16:21] <decci> EriC^^: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=566837
[16:22] <EriC^^> decci: cool
[16:22] <Eczan> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS (Trusty Tahr) ?
[16:23] <Krapulat> I’m trying to remove varnish (apt-get remove varnish; also tried apt-get remove --purge varnish) to reinstall later 4.1 and I get this error: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) . How can I do that?
[16:23] <ech0s7> i'm using a Wi-Fi dongle to connect to wifi, and configured static ip in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:23] <ech0s7> the problem is that at boot, the wlan doesn't take automatically the address, it does if i unplug and plug at runtime, why ?
[16:23] <EriC^^> Krapulat: what was before the error?
[16:23] <ikonia> Krapulat: it should give more than just that
[16:24] <Krapulat> EriC^^, ikonia: dpkg: error processing package varnish (--purge): package is in a very bad inconsistent state; you should reinstall it before attempting a removal
[16:25] <ikonia> Krapulat: have you tried a reinstall ?
[16:25] <Krapulat> ikonia: yes
[16:25] <capu> hello guys, i have a problem with my Bluetooth device since one of the updates.
[16:25] <EriC^^> Krapulat: what does that say?
[16:27] <paule32> hello have problems with squid3
[16:27] <Krapulat> ikonia, EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/4yJUfUwC
[16:27] <paule32> here the php script: http://pastebin.com/p1zAkhDQ
[16:28] <paule32> and here the config: http://pastebin.com/kE3kbVGT
[16:28] <paule32> the script seems to be return always OK
[16:28] <EriC^^> Krapulat: try stopping the service before installing/removing
[16:28] <paule32> but i check the mysql database of "foo" if the site "foo" is blocked
[16:29] <hay207> hi guys, how long does pbuilder takes, it's stuck at Retrieving Release.gpg
[16:29] <paule32> but squid3 give me no error page
[16:29] <hay207> almost 15 minutes passed now
[16:29] <Krapulat> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/fWE5m419
[16:30] <EriC^^> Krapulat: no idea
[16:30] <ioria> Krapulat, ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/ | grep varnish.postrm ?
[16:31] <Krapulat> ioria: it shows “varnish.postrm”
[16:31] <ikonia> Krapulat: are you actually using 14.04 ?
[16:31] <Krapulat> ikonia: yes
[16:32] <ikonia> why are the init scripts failing
[16:32] <ikonia> what happens if you manually use those init scripts
[16:34] <Krapulat> ikonia: the problem is with varnishncsa. It can’t start because it thinks varnish is not running (but it is)
[16:34] <d0lph1n98> is there any possibilities to get a package name conflict?
[16:34] <d0lph1n98> same package name in different ppa
[16:35] <d0lph1n98> when apt-get install packagename
[16:35] <zykotick9> d0lph1n98: fyi, apt-get will choose the highest version number
[16:35] <d0lph1n98> what if there are two same version number in two different ppa?
[16:36] <genii> d0lph1n98: Yes. In such cases, usually apt will try to install the newest one, as determined by it's version number, so long as it adheres to Debian packaging guidelines
[16:36] <Krapulat> ikonia: so is it impossible to remove the package to install it later?
[16:37] <d0lph1n98> so if there are two package with same name and version number, the apt will choose based on timestamp?
[16:37] <genii> d0lph1n98: If there are two identical versions in two different locations, the first match wins ( as decided alphabetically by it's placement in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ dir
[16:38] <genii> d0lph1n98: If you want always a specific repo to be preferred, read up on pinning
[16:38] <d0lph1n98> and apt-cache search packagename will still list out both packages?
[16:38] <genii> !pinning
[16:39] <d0lph1n98> no, i just wondering how apt avoid those conflicts
[16:40] <diegoaguilar> Hello, right now build-esential package gets outdated versions of g++ compiler
[16:40] <genii> d0lph1n98: apt-cache policy packagename lists available versions of the package, in the order which they would be installed
[16:40] <diegoaguilar> what's suggestion for getting last compilers versions
[16:40] <diegoaguilar> ?
[16:43] <d0lph1n98> diegoaguilar:
[16:43] <d0lph1n98> diegoaguilar: https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/InstallingGCC
[16:44] <diegoaguilar> d0lph1n98, ls | grep ++ outputs
[16:44] <diegoaguilar> sudo ln -s /usr/bin/g++-5 to /usr/bin/g++
[16:44] <diegoaguilar> sorry
[16:44] <diegoaguilar> g++
[16:44] <diegoaguilar> g++-4.6
[16:44] <diegoaguilar> g++-5
[16:44] <diegoaguilar> x86_64-linux-gnu-g++
[16:45] <OerHeks> !info gcc wily
[16:46] <OerHeks> 5.2.1-3
[16:46] <OerHeks> lts does not have the "latest" indeed
[16:49] <paule32> hello
[16:49] <paule32> here the php script: http://pastebin.com/p1zAkhDQ
[16:49] <paule32> and here the config: http://pastebin.com/kE3kbVGT
[16:49] <paule32> but i check the mysql database of "foo" if the site "foo" is blocked
[16:50] <paule32> but squid3 give me no error page
[16:54] <daftykins> paule32: #ubuntu-server or ##networking might be more appropriate.
[17:06] <oacy> hello everyone, is it possible to make a copy image of a device mounted at /dev/mapper/luksloopX, just like you would any /dev/sdbX partition?
[17:06] <daftykins> only if it's mounted to be decrypted i presume
[17:07] <oacy> daftykins, it is mounted after having been decrypted
[17:07] <daftykins> so run it and see!
[17:07] <daftykins> this isn't the first time you've been playing around with imaging though, is it?
[17:08] <oacy> daftykins, with the same 'dd if=/dev/mapper/luksloopX..' command?
[17:08] <daftykins> i would not be using dd.
[17:08] <oacy> and which one instead?
[17:08] <daftykins> but you ignored my clonezilla suggestions the last time so :)
[17:08] <oacy> daftykins, not to ignore them, but I am not familiar with clonezilla, either
[17:08] <chrisfromgreece> Help ! I'm using ubuntu 15.10 is it safe to install AMD proprietary drivers now ?? cause they are not supported by the new kernel and the system won't boot
[17:09] <daftykins> right, you'd need to learn how to use it - but it's easy
[17:09] <chrisfromgreece> Help ! I'm using ubuntu 15.10 is it safe to install AMD proprietary drivers now ?? cause they are not supported by the new kernel and the system won't boot
[17:09] <meyou> i'm trying to create an image of an installed ubuntu machine and then push that image to new pc's. thinking pxe but i'm open to suggestions. the people on site won't be super tech-savvy, so i'd want to have a pretty short set of instructions for deploying
[17:09] <daftykins> chrisfromgreece: don't repeat yourself.
[17:09] <oacy> daftykins, does dd have a drawback?
[17:09] <meyou> anyone know of any good writeups/articles for that?
[17:09] <daftykins> chrisfromgreece: fglrx-updates might work.
[17:09] <daftykins> meyou: err no putting that task to such users sounds like a bad move
[17:10] <daftykins> oacy: yes it'll take time over all the blank space on the disk, so it's a huge waste of time :)
[17:10] <meyou> it won't be end users, just a low level tech dude
[17:10] <oacy> daftykins, oh the size is not big, not like a whole drive
[17:10] <chrisfromgreece> if doesn't boot what should i do ?
[17:10] <daftykins> chrisfromgreece: boot recovery mode and remove that package again.
[17:11] <daftykins> oacy: still, writing a bunch of zeroes is wasteful
[17:11] <daftykins> anyway just try it instead of all this chatter
[17:11] <chrisfromgreece> ok thank you i'm install it right now hope it would work
[17:11] <oacy> daftykins, I'd agree with that. but it looks more straightforward for me right now
[17:11] <daftykins> oacy: it's not. also, if it were, why did you need to come and ask?
[17:12] <daftykins> if it truly is small, you could've tested it by now
[17:13] <oacy> daftykins, I am wary of anything with dd. and my question was about whether the mapper path would make any difference in the practice
[17:14] <daftykins> yes which testing would show
[17:14] <oacy> daftykins, assume I didnt ask 'you' if it bothered that much
[17:15] <Abhijit> hi
[17:15] <daftykins> oacy: you just seem to come here every time with dd questions, when you could just experiment and learn first hand.
[17:15] <oacy> daftykins ^
[17:15] <daftykins> you won't learn for yourself if you keep asking for handout answers.
[17:15] <Abhijit> i have insntalled ffmepg as per this http://www.faqforge.com/linux/how-to-install-ffmpeg-on-ubuntu-14-04/ on my 14.04. which shows it there but clipbucket do not find it.
[17:15] <oacy> once and for all in the next sessions: assume I didnt ask anything to you. fineß
[17:15] <oacy> ?
[17:16] <daftykins> oacy: i think you're taking this too personally.
[17:24] <Eczan> guys during installation ubuntu 14.04 which kernel should i choose
[17:24] <daftykins> are you sure you're being offered a choice? doesn't normally come up
[17:24] <HackerII> the one it comes with
[17:24] <Eczan> i have alot of choices
[17:24] <HackerII> ?
[17:24] <daftykins> Eczan: where are you seeing this?
[17:24] <Eczan> linux-signed-generic-its-vivid
[17:25] <Eczan> linux-generic-lts-vivid
[17:25] <Eczan> linux-virtual-lts-vivid
[17:25] <daftykins> but what did you do to see this...
[17:25] <Eczan> during installation on vmware
[17:25] <daftykins> of what ISO?
[17:25] <Eczan> i downloaded the iso image
[17:26] <Eczan> sec
[17:26] <daftykins> please press enter less
[17:26] <Eczan> ubuntu 14.04.3-server-amd64
[17:26] <daftykins> well that likely installed with a 3.19 kernel anyway, but i recall no step where others are chosen - or made to be chosen
[17:27] <Eczan> i chosen the one is highlighted from the beggining of the opened page
[17:27] <Eczan> i chose* beginning*
[17:27] <daftykins> what you just said doesn't make any sense to me
[17:28] <Eczan> well i will printscreen
[17:28] <Eczan> and let you see it
[17:29] <auronandace> does the server version use a text based installer?
[17:29] <Eczan> yes
[17:30] <daftykins> i don't recall any kernel choice though, unless tasksel is being buried into
[17:31] <Eczan> forget it
[17:32] <Eczan> we are here to support linux and bring new linux users , im a beginner so im sorry if you think im lied brb
[17:32] <daftykins> Eczan: you're taking this too personally, i'm just confused on what you're seeing is all.
[17:32] <Eczan> sec
[17:34] <Eczan> i wonder why it have no graphics
[17:34] <Eczan> only a purple screen and normal text format design
[17:35] <daftykins> because server doesn't use a GUI
[17:35] <Eczan> daftykins, can i please pm you ?
[17:36] <daftykins> !pm
[17:36] <daftykins> if you're uploading a screenshot, use imgur.com
[17:37] <Eczan> 4get im going to another ubuntu help channel in other server
[17:37] * daftykins shakes his head
[17:37] <xela2244> hi, i just installed gnome on unity. But they are using same themes (gtk, icons...). How can i use different theme for gnome and unity?
[17:38] <xela2244> and i am unable to change desktop background on unity
[17:50] <bellflower> I've reinstalled my OS from 32 bit Ubuntu to 64 bit, but when trying to access my previous HD (the 32 bit system) to copy home files, it refuses to mount the partition to access the files.
[17:51] <daftykins> bellflower: so the 64-bit install is on a new hard disk?
[17:51] <bellflower> @daftykins: Yes.
[17:52] <daftykins> bellflower: both are plugged in right now? "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" and "mount | nc termbin.com 9999" would be helpful
[17:52] <bellflower> @daftykins: Put of the decision to install as new was because of running out of space on the smaller HD that the 32 bit was on.
[17:52] <bellflower> Mount gives an error ... ext4 exited with non-zero exit status 32 wrong fs type bad option bad superblock ...
[17:53] <daftykins> i'd rather see the above first
[17:54] <MelRay> I'm also joined to #proftpd. My question is how can I setup a user with root access and password to allow ftp to /var/www/html? The configuration directive to allow root access through profited is RootLogin ON/OFF. The issue obviously becomes how do I do this due to ubuntu using sudo for authentication?
[17:54] <bellflower> @daftykins: Trying to but CP from xchat to term doesn't seem to be working correctly yet.
[17:54] <delt> Hello
[17:54] <daftykins> MelRay: ftp is a bad choice for this task
[17:55] <delt> i'm trying to cross-compile my program for windows, but i'm getting this weird error from make: *** multiple target patterns. Stop.
[17:55] <daftykins> bellflower: just type...
[17:55] <MelRay> daftykins: Ok so what is the better method to employ with a client?
[17:55] <daftykins> MelRay: create a user; add that user to www-data; chown /var/www/html/ to www-data:www-data then that user can use SCP or SFTP.
[17:56] <MelRay> daftykins: Ok great thanks a bunch!
[17:56] <bellflower> @daftykins: The first command is only showing dev/sda
[17:56] <daftykins> bellflower: the other disk must not be present, try "sudo fdisk -l"
[17:57] <daftykins> bellflower: if it hasn't failed, my guess is a bad connection... i'd check the cables if this is a desktop. also - you can look for errors from "dmesg | tail"
[17:58] <bellflower> @daftykins: It's showing sdb and all details look correct, but partition 4 isn't mounting in any file managers.
[17:58] <daftykins> what's showing sdb?
[17:58] <bellflower> @daftykins: Part. 4 is /home/
[17:59] <daftykins> i'm asking for output here but so far you've shared nothing so i can't really do much whilst blind :)
[17:59] <bellflower> @daftykins: What is best method to paste multi-line output for you to see?
[17:59] <auronandace> bellflower: just so you know irc doesn't require the @ symbol in front of the nick you are addressing
[17:59] <daftykins> "sudo fdisk -l | nc termbin.com 9999" perhaps.
[17:59] <daftykins> bellflower: http://paste.ubuntu.com but commands as above will produce URLs to share
[18:01] <bellflower> daftykins: Thanks for the paste url info. Results at http://paste.ubuntu.com/13249231/
[18:02] <daftykins> ok and repeat for "mount"
[18:03] <bellflower> daftykins: What was the console command to mount? (I'm still a noob)
[18:03] <daftykins> no i'm saying i want to see the output of "mount"
[18:03] <akik> bellflower: mount command by itself just lists the mounted things
[18:04] <delt> i'm trying to cross-compile my program for windows, but i'm getting this weird error from make: *** multiple target patterns. Stop.
[18:04] <bellflower> daftykins: This? http://paste.ubuntu.com/13249269/
[18:05] <daftykins> that's the ticket
[18:05] <daftykins> bellflower: so what does "sudo mount /dev/sdb4 /mnt" give you?
[18:06] <keepguessing> I am trying to sign the code of conduct for launchpad
[18:06] <keepguessing> I used this to do it. wget -O- https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct/1.1/+download | gpg --clearsign | xsel --clipboard
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> keepguessing: the guys in #launchpad can help there
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> keepguessing: I had problems with it too :(
[18:07] <TJ-> bellflower: daftykins /dev/sdb4 end-sector 488,396,799 is beyond the reported end of /dev/sdb 488,192,367
[18:07] <bellflower> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13249296/
[18:07] <daftykins> TJ-: i guess if it'll keep erroring this one will be more up your alley :)
[18:08] <daftykins> bellflower: so what did "dmesg | tail" show?
[18:09] <bellflower> daftykins: In short, it says Bad Geometry ... exceeds size of device.
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> bellflower: sudo fsck /dev/sdb4 may help
[18:09] <lickalott> hey guys, my client dc'd and my logs only go back to 0834. If someone answered my question or threw an answer out can someone copy and paste it for me please?
[18:10] <TJ-> bellflower: daftykins based on the /dev/sdb4 blocks count 116,477,952, the end would be expected to be at 116477952 + 255440896 -1 = 371918847
[18:10] <auronandace> lickalott: you may want to mention your timezone
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> lickalott: what is the qustion?
[18:10] <bellflower> ActionParsnip: Would that risk loosing data, when the drive seems to access files and report no errors when it is installed internal as the boot device still?
[18:11] <lickalott> sorry auronandace US - PST
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> bellflower: no, ask you have backups. You do make backups of your important data, right?
[18:11] <bellflower> Option B may be slower, but that would simply be swapping the HDs again and copy everything to a third HD before switching them back.
[18:11] <TJ-> bellflower: what does "sudo blkid /dev/sdb4" report?
[18:12] <bellflower> ActionParsnip: This is kind of an unexpected in-between backups. Rather, the backup became unreadable, so was planning to use the original (smaller HD with 32 bit OS) as a backup.
[18:12] <lickalott> ActionParsnip, trying to setup a dual monitor except the monitor I'm attempting to use is a 32" tv. with a VGA cable things are "okay" but the clarity isn't there. WHen I use an HDMI cable (with the resolution set the same as the laptop monitor) the launcher is off the tv/monitor screen. I was wondering if there was an easy way to fix/address this.
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> lickalott: what is the output of: sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a
[18:13] <daftykins> lickalott: check for overscan TV controls, or run them independantly so they can be at their own native resolutions
[18:13] <daftykins> HDMI is definitely preferred.
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> lickalott: use http://pastie.org to host the output then paste the URL in the channel
[18:13] <lickalott> sorry....forgot to add that. There is no scalability with the HDMI interface on this particular model
[18:14] <lickalott> copy all ActionParsnip
[18:14] <daftykins> run it as extended, not resolution matching, then :)
[18:14] <regedit> hello
[18:14] <bellflower> TJ: /dev/sdb4: LABEL="Home" UUID="8a9d9c01-92d9-48c1-9810-7f3285f0220d" TYPE="ext4"
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> lickalott: yes, there is no length limit in pastebin
[18:14] <lickalott> sorry....lol copy all = I understand
[18:15] <regedit> so my small office here got a new Brother HL-3170CDW printer, happy days for anyone with Windows / Mac. What are my chances on Ubuntu?
[18:15] <regedit> http://www.brother-usa.com/Printer/ModelDetail/1/hl3170cdw/overview#.VkYn6CCrTRY
[18:15] <port80web> crtl+a, crtl+c
[18:15] <daftykins> regedit: visit your cups web admin and see; http://localhost:631
[18:16] <lickalott> lshw output - http://pastie.org/10555185
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> lickalott: oh is it a laptop?
[18:16] <regedit> this printer ^ works wirelessly too, does that make it any better or worse?
[18:16] <lickalott> the primary is, yes
[18:16] <regedit> daftykins: ok checking that out..
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> lickalott: so its one of those awful switching GPU things
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> lickalott: look into nvidia-prime
[18:17] <lickalott> possibly....?
[18:17] <lickalott> okay
[18:17] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: that has 0 to do with driving displays at their correct res
[18:17] <TJ-> bellflower: good, its ext4 so without upsetting the file-system you can do "sudo dumpe2fs -h /dev/sdb4 | tee /dev/stderr | pastebinit"
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: might be a refresh rate thing, if you want to take over then be my guest :)
[18:17] <daftykins> the intel typically draws the picture so it wouldn't be much affected
[18:17] <daftykins> ok ;)
[18:18] <antartic> I recently upgraded my hardware (cpu,mobo,ram), went from a gpxcard (gone) to the onboard chip of my new intel i3 6100 (skylake). but I can't seem to get the intel drivers to work. system settings> details states the driver used is "Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.6, 256 bits)". how do I switch to the intel drivers?
[18:18] <daftykins> lickalott: "xrandr | nc termbin.com 9999"
[18:18] <daftykins> antartic: that's fine.
[18:18] <daftykins> antartic: actually, sounds like you didn't purge whatever card you had before, was it nvidia?
[18:19] <antartic> indeed
[18:19] <daftykins> antartic: "sudo apt-get purge nvidia* " then reboot.
[18:19] <lickalott> http://termbin.com/j0pi
[18:19] <antartic> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[18:20] <antartic> I think I tries that before
[18:20] <antartic> tried
[18:20] <daftykins> antartic: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log nc termbin.com 9999"
[18:20] <regedit> daftykins: ok i actually see the printer in the Discovered Network Printers list! pretty cool. I see it twice though, once with "dnssd" schema and the other "ldp" schema, which is better?
[18:20] <bellflower> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13249384/
[18:20] <regedit> TJ-: heya ;)
[18:20] <daftykins> regedit: the one that works...
[18:20] <regedit> daftykins: heh ok
[18:21] <daftykins> lickalott: that's running correctly resolution wise for a 1080p TV, so it's overlapping all 4 sides still huh? i'm sure there is a setting, usually it's just hidden or cryptic to work out.
[18:21] <lickalott> on the tv or on the laptop (via nvidia control panel)?
[18:22] <daftykins> TV, i doubt you'll see overscan in the nvidia control panel
[18:22] <daftykins> the nvidia likely does not draw the picture
[18:22] <antartic> uh... pasted it. not sure whats happening
[18:23] <daftykins> should've given you a URL to paste here.
[18:23] <antartic> no such luck.
[18:23] <regedit> daftykins: th model is HL-3170CDW which I cannot find in the model list. There's HL-3070CW BR-Script3 and HL-3070CW Foomatic/Postscript
[18:23] <bellflower> antartic: After you submit a paste, just copy the url in the address bar. It should end with numbers.
[18:24] <daftykins> antartic: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:24] <daftykins> regedit: experiment. things will not be exact
[18:24] <regedit> daftykins: the next one is HL-3260N BR-Script3. should I try the earlier one or the later one?
[18:24] <antartic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13249419/
[18:25] <daftykins> regedit: try, test print, did page come out? if not, repeat.
[18:25] <Guest72280> HIII
[18:25] <regedit> i see
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> regedit: http://support.brother.com/g/s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#HL-3170CDW
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> regedit: install LPR, then the wrapper
[18:25] <TJ-> bellflower: daftykins 'Block count' x 'Block size' (bytes) into sectors: "echo '29119488*4096/512' | bc" => 232,955,904 which is much smaller than the claimed sdb4 partition size. So that would infer a partition table entry with Start: 255440896 Blocks: 232955904 End: 488396799. That matches the partition table, but the disk containing that table claims to have less sectors than that
[18:25] <regedit> ActionParsnip: wow thanks! ok will do
[18:25] <daftykins> antartic: as there a /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[18:25] <daftykins> *is
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> regedit: Brother loves linux
[18:26] <TJ-> bellflower: daftykins s/is much smaller/is the same/
[18:26] <bellflower> TJ: Could that possibly be a result of having to repair the boot sector once or twice in the past?
[18:26] <daftykins> antartic: oh i see this is not ubuntu, or you've installed a newer kernel on it that isn't normal for ubuntu. what is this?
[18:27] <antartic> it is ubuntu running on 4.3
[18:27] <daftykins> antartic: why.
[18:27] <regedit> ActionParsnip: ok the LPR installed fine, but the cupswrapper .deb complains about Cannot satisfy dependencies
[18:27] <TJ-> bellflower: The issue here *appears* to be the disk claims to have less sectors in total, than were originally used to create the partitions and file-systems within them. Has this disk beein in a Windows PC lately?
[18:27] <ubuntu972> hello, I'm getting real troubles with headers after apt-get update etc. I've update /etc/apt/sources.list with the right servers but still
[18:27] <antartic> I read that there was no/limited support for skylake GPUs in older kernels
[18:27] <ubuntu972> any tips?
[18:27] <bellflower> TJ: Not long ago I tried to dd if=dev/sdc of dev/sda (while sdb was a live OS to make the copy). The copy failed and something rewrote the boot to see sdc as the boot drive.
[18:28] <antartic> oh right, there is a xorg.conf
[18:28] <auronandace> ubuntu972: cat /etc/issue
[18:28] <daftykins> antartic: delete it and reboot.
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> regedit: then run: sudo apt-get -f install
[18:28] <TJ-> bellflower: so you cloned an image from 'Disk C' to 'Disk A' and what we are looking at is 'Disk A' ?
[18:28] <ubuntu972> auronandace: Ubuntu 14.10 \n \l
[18:28] <antartic> righto. brb
[18:28] <auronandace> !14.10 | ubuntu972
[18:29] <daftykins> !eol | ubottu you must upgrade
[18:29] <daftykins> oops tab complete fail
[18:29] <auronandace> ubuntu972: you need to use a supported release
[18:29] <daftykins> ubuntu972: EOL ^
[18:29] <TJ-> daftykins: you weren't wrong though!
[18:29] <dhiru> sa
[18:29] <bellflower> TJ: Right. This (sdb4) is the "Home" of the original I had tried to copy. It was repaired using boot-repair twice in the past, since the OS install.
[18:29] <regedit> ActionParsnip: no the .deb doesnt even allow to install due to the dependencies error. Looking into the install instructions i see it says "ia32-libs or lib32stdc++ is required to be installed." maybe it's that? how do i check if i have those
[18:29] <daftykins> TJ-: on the EOL? :>
[18:30] <TJ-> bellflower: OK, so you broke it. 'Disk A' is smaller than the original 'Disk C'. You need to work with 'Disk C'
[18:30] <ubuntu972> daftykins how can I upgrade a VPS lol
[18:30] <TJ-> daftykins: on the 'you must upgrade' yes :)
[18:30] <ubuntu972> ok thank you
[18:30] <regedit> ActionParsnip: i.o.w. i opened the .deb with QApt and it doesnt allow to proceed
[18:30] <bellflower> TJ: I suspect some corruption since the reported total size would lose a few megs of space after each of those repairs.
[18:30] <daftykins> ubuntu972: create a new one, migrate your data. don't upgrade.
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> regedit: use terminal, the output is useful
[18:30] <TJ-> bellflower: no corruption - the target disk of the clone operation is simply smaller than the source disk
[18:30] <ubuntu972> daftykins thanks
[18:30] <regedit> ActionParsnip: how do i apt install a .deb from terminal
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> regedit: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[18:31] <bellflower> TJ: Ohh, no. Current disk A is the newer 1TB I am trying to move to. Disk B (on USB adapter) is the original (a 250GB HDD).
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> regedit: its a single line, no need to pastebin
[18:31] <regedit> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 15.04 \n \l
[18:31] <daftykins> regedit: if this is printer related and you've skipped the above testing, then you're likely going to make things worse for yourself by installing things you find online...
[18:31] <bellflower> TJ: But the 250 had been repaired a few times and only reads as about 240GB (more or less).
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> regedit: ok cool.
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> regedit: to install deb files: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/filename.deb
[18:32] <regedit> daftykins: why, cups wizard would install 32bit dependencies automatically?
[18:32] <TJ-> bellflower: I'm talking about what is currently /dev/sdb. That physical disk is *smaller* than the partition table/file-systems on it describe. Is /dev/sdb a cloned image?
[18:32] <daftykins> regedit: what did you get...
[18:32] <antartic> it seems to have worked! :D
[18:32] <bellflower> TJ: No. Not a clone. It's the original.
[18:33] <regedit> daftykins: ActionParsnip seems to have linked to an official installations packages/steps for the exact model from manufacturer
[18:33] <antartic> details now state "Intel® HD Graphics 530 (Skylake GT2) " thank you so much!
[18:33] <TJ-> bellflower: then it has lost a large part of the sector making up partition 4.
[18:33] <bellflower> TJ: But sdb1 is a copy of Windows that was once used in a laptop that had Absolute Computrace, which is bad for writing "hidden data" on HDs.
[18:33] <regedit> daftykins: http://support.brother.com/g/s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#HL-3170CDW
[18:33] <daftykins> regedit: i see, so you are indeed skipping the testing of what's built in
[18:34] <daftykins> well, have fun :)
[18:34] <TJ-> bellflower: "sudo hdparm -N /dev/sdb | tee /dev/stderr | pastebinit"
[18:34] <regedit> daftykins: is it really that much better than dpkg installing the manufacturer packages and fixing them?
[18:34] <TJ-> bellflower: I suspected a Host Protected Area issue might be the cause; lets check that with the command above
[18:35] <daftykins> regedit: yes, because every action you perform with a .deb will not get updated - installing .deb's is unwise
[18:35] <daftykins> it should be considered a last resort.
[18:35] <regedit> daftykins: whereas from cups it will?
[18:35] <daftykins> ...
[18:36] <bellflower> TJ: The running kernel lacks CONFIG_IDE_TASK_IOCTL support for this device.
[18:36] <bellflower> READ_NATIVE_MAX_ADDRESS_EXT failed: Invalid argument /dev/sdb:
[18:36] <bellflower> TJ: That's all that it shows.
[18:37] <TJ-> bellflower: what kernel is that ("uname -a") ?
[18:37] <ubuntu972> what is the support for 15.4
[18:37] <ubuntu972> I mean till when?
[18:37] <daftykins> ubuntu972: don't run it on a VPS, go back to 14.04 and create a new one.
[18:37] <lickalott> no love daftykins. ActionParsnip, nvidia-prime is already installed.
[18:38] <daftykins> ubuntu972: January
[18:38] <bellflower> TJ: Linux tinkerbell 3.19.0-25-generic #26~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 24 21:16:20 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:38] <daftykins> lickalott: i told you that wouldn't work
[18:38] <ubuntu972> january 2016?
[18:38] <daftykins> ubuntu972: yip
[18:38] <lickalott> i was just answering him, I didn't use it for anything
[18:38] <lickalott> that could've been on two different lines
[18:38] <ubuntu972> there is any long term support edition?
[18:39] <Glorfindel> ok, this was happening while I was on 14.04 too, but on 15.10, if I close the laptop screen, it will sleep. which is fine. but when I open the screen it wakes, and shows an openbox password prompt
[18:39] <daftykins> lickalott: i'm confident it's down to TV settings, give it more of a try
[18:39] <daftykins> ubuntu972: see where i said install 14.04?
[18:39] <Glorfindel> which doesn't accept any of my passwords
[18:39] <lickalott> daftykins, that's what I was referring to. THere aren't any controls on this tv (Vizio POS) for scaling
[18:39] <lickalott> "no love"
[18:39] <daftykins> lickalott: it's not scaling, it's overscan
[18:39] <regedit> daftykins: ok ok i retraced my steps and will be doing the testing phase. BR Script 3 or Foomatic/Postscript ?
[18:40] <daftykins> regedit: just experiment, it doesn't work -> delete -> start again.
[18:40] <regedit> gotcha
[18:40] <TJ-> bellflower: hmmm, something not right there. Give me a moment to check on a 14.04 system
[18:40] <ubuntu972> daftykins I've read it I think if I have to go back to same version so perhaps I can fixe it no?
[18:40] <bellflower> lickalott: Vizio isn't too terribly bad (I've seen much worse), but they left out a lot of the manu features in the manuals. Most has to be randomly discovered by the users.
[18:40] <daftykins> ubuntu972: no, create a new VPS on 14.04 -> migrate your data -> delete the other
[18:41] <regedit> daftykins: wait a minute, there's an option "Or provide a PPD file". Would that be referring to something i can download from the manufacturer?
[18:41] <bellflower> lickalott: So your issue may have more to do with your TV settings, than anything to do with your system.
[18:41] <lickalott> only selections I have are DNR, Black/White level extender, CTI, flesh tone, Adaptive Luma, and DCR. None of which do anything special for my situation.
[18:41] <lickalott> that's what I'm thinking. I just wanted to shoot it off of the big brains before I gave up
[18:42] <lickalott> looks like VGA it is
[18:42] <frenda> Error opening default ALSA device: No such file or directory ---> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13249513/ ---> What does it mean? (I can listen to mp3 files)
[18:42] <bellflower> lickalott: The HDMI is a much cleaner and better option. It took me a while to get mine working 100% but unfortunately cannot recall where I found it in the TV's menu settings.
[18:43] <daftykins> regedit: i'm going to stop replying now, because you need to think for yourself here.
[18:43] <lickalott> i remember having a similar issue on my server at home and just said screw it and went with DVI
[18:43] <daftykins> lickalott: that doesn't sound like the full settings a display would offer
[18:44] <lickalott> In that research I remember manipulating a file (resolution file) and playing with those values until it fit the screen.
[18:44] <regedit> mkay i'm gonna see if the vendor has a PPD file i can use...
[18:44] <lickalott> daftykins, the HDMI on this is limited. I have all kinds of options for VGA, to include overscan and scaling
[18:45] <daftykins> lickalott: and you're on which ubuntu version again?
[18:45] <bellflower> lickalott: I believe there are some scaling controls, or may only be a few presets and "auto", they are just not easy to find and not where you might intuitively expect.
[18:45] <lickalott> i literally spent $50 on this yesterday from a buddy. it's not top quality by any stretch.
[18:45] <daftykins> lickalott: i'd make it so the HDMI display is the only output and see if it behaves any differently.
[18:45] <lickalott> 15.10 daftykins
[18:45] <lickalott> i tried that. same same....
[18:46] <daftykins> and then as crazy as it sounds, try another HDMI cable
[18:46] <lickalott> on my third one today.
[18:46] <daftykins> heh
[18:46] <TJ-> bellflower: I've looked at the Linux and hdparm source-code. The error report is misleading. No Intel/AMD based CPU kernels have support for that option. What is happening is in hdparm - it tries to read the device with a call to the standard 'SCSI Generic' syscall which fails, so hdparm 'falls back' to a 'legacy' method which tries to invoke the IDE_TASK_IOCTL call, which doesn't exist and therefore fails.
[18:46] <daftykins> ok, obviously it's a cheap and rubbish display causing quirks
[18:46] <lickalott> ^^
[18:46] <bellflower> lickalott. What model is the Vizio TV? I'll see what I can find if it is similar to mine. I get them because they are half the price of any PC monitor of similar size.
[18:46] <daftykins> it might work from another system with HDMI *shrug*
[18:47] <kamikazeattacks> Hello !!! Do you know a name of a distro which uses unofficial desktop environment, excluding popular environments like GNOME, KDE etc. ? :)
[18:47] <lickalott> bellflower, VX32L
[18:47] <TJ-> bellflower: so, it looks like a symptom of the failing disk. It doesn't look like there is much you can do to recover things. That disk would need expert handling. I'd recommend unplugging it to protect what data remains
[18:47] <daftykins> kamikazeattacks: you mean like ubuntu gnome and kubuntu? ...
[18:48] <kamikazeattacks> daftykins, No. I mean unpopular desktop environment. :)
[18:48] <bellflower> kamikazeattacks: Try "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" . It's what I use most and has a nice clean and lean look and feel. Very efficient.
[18:48] <daftykins> kamikazeattacks: ah sorry, misread
[18:48] <daftykins> kamikazeattacks: better question for ##linux as this is ubuntu only
[18:49] <TJ-> bellflower: let's check its health with "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdb | tee /dev/stderr | pastebinit"
[18:49] <kamikazeattacks> daftykins, I mean distro "based on Ubuntu", which has their own desktop environment. :)
[18:49] <bellflower> TJ: It booted and ran fine, so if no better suggestions, I could swap the HDs back to the 250, and start copying files off of it to another HD. Extra steps and time consuming, but workable.
[18:50] <daftykins> kamikazeattacks: yes, we don't really deal with other distros, not even variants
[18:50] <daftykins> kamikazeattacks: so unless you want to know of xubuntu, lubuntu or ubuntu MATE...
[18:50] <TJ-> bellflower: before you copy, check on how big the disk reports itself. If that is less than 488396800 sectors, it'll not get the data.
[18:51] <kamikazeattacks> daftykins, Where is a complete list of all desktop environments ever for Linux ??? :) Could somebody give me a link ? :)
[18:51] <daftykins> kamikazeattacks: sure, over in ##linux
[18:52] <TJ-> bellflower: it makes no sense that the drive would report different sizes based solely on whether it is the boot device or not, *unless* you have configured the booting OS to *disable* HPA at boot-time
[18:53] <Tahr-user> Hi - Firefox will display my pdf properly, but evince, while readable, chooses a font that is not the right one and the spacing is sometimes funky..... it there a cetain .ttf that I should install ?
[18:54] <bellflower> TJ: I honestly have no idea why it boots and functions as-is, but unreadable any time it's connected as USB to a 64 bit OS.
[18:54] <TJ-> bellflower: "as USB" HAHA! I wonder if your USB<>disk adapter has a limit - many do
[18:55] <bellflower> TJ: I suspect it may have some of it's own issues, but It does read, repair, and copy 1TB HDs without probs.
[18:55] <daftykins> gah now we're told it's not internal :)
[18:55] <TJ-> bellflower: in other words, the USB<>disk chipset is presenting its own view of the disk sectors, not simply passing through the value from the disk itself
[18:56] <bellflower> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13249633/ (sorry it took so long. Had to install smarttools.)
[18:56] <TJ-> bellflower: thanks :)
[18:56] <TJ-> bellflower: can you also "dmesg | pastebinit" so we can see what the kernel thinks is connected
[18:56] <ubuntu972> daftykins: I get it, the 14.10 it a total mess... better use 14.04
[18:56] <TJ-> bellflower: gah, its the bridge! "/dev/sdb: Unknown USB bridge [0x0411:0x01c5 (0x108)]"
[18:57] <daftykins> ubuntu972: yay
[18:57] <poningru> hello I have weird issue, with the free amd drivers whenver I do a rotation to one of my screens my other screens turns black
[18:57] <poningru> hardware:
[18:57] <poningru> I have two screens , one is displayport and other is dvi
[18:57] <poningru> connected
[18:57] <poningru> the displayport is setup 'normally' i.e landscape orientation
[18:58] <poningru> the dvi is setup in portrait mode
[18:58] <poningru> and when I try to use the display configration utility
[18:58] <TJ-> bellflower: smartctl can use special device-specific pass-through commands for some USB bridges. If we identify what it is we may be able to figure it out
[18:58] <daftykins> poningru: try fglrx ?
[18:58] <poningru> and change the rotation of the dvi screen my displayport based screen goes dark
[18:58] <bellflower> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13249661/ (Looks like line 1039+ )
[18:59] <poningru> but the mouse pointer is visible
[18:59] <poningru> daftykins, thats what I'm using now but is a non-optimal solution for now
[18:59] <poningru> causes multiple other issues that I've to deal with
[18:59] <poningru> i.e screen flickers and crashes
[19:00] <poningru> this describes my problem but on a different hardware:
[19:00] <poningru> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1417320
[19:05] <TJ-> bellflower: all those USB 'device not accepting address' errors don't look promising
[19:07] <bellflower> TJ: I do have some work-around ideas that I can go with. Just the same it would explain why the drive is readable internally, but not via USB.
[19:07] <TJ-> bellflower: is the device connected via a USB3 or USB2 port? (and is the device natively USB3?)
[19:07] <TJ-> bellflower: yes, internally the disk isn't going through a bridge so it'll be fine
[19:07] <bellflower> TJ: If that is the case, I can always swap HDs back, move stuff to a smaller USB thumb drive, then re-swap and copy them to the newer HD.
[19:07] <TJ-> bellflower: did the HD-PCTU2 originally have a 250GB drive in it?
[19:08] <bellflower> TJ: No, it's just an adapter that was reflashed to work as generic.
[19:08] <TJ-> bellflower: I'm wondering if Buffalo firmware-limit those things in order to stop people buying the low-capacity cheaper version and simply replacing the hard disk with a cheaper large one
[19:08] <regedit> what does it mean when QApt doesnt want to install a .deb because "Error: Cannot satisfy dependencies", but dpkg -i does so no problem and a subsequent sudo apt-get -f install doesn't even seem necessary (nothing seems to get pacthed up - unless i'm mistaken?) ?
[19:08] <TJ-> bellflower: 'reflashed' ... the more you reveal the more I die a little :)
[19:09] <bellflower> TJ: Ironically enough, the person who gave it to me bought it because they only needed a 500GB hard drive and it was cheaper than locally buying just the HD.
[19:09] <regedit> is there any way to see more specifics of what QApt is complaining about when it very generically says "Error: Cannot satisfy dependencies"
[19:09] <bellflower> TJ: Wasn't my doing. IT was a freebie when I needed one.
[19:10] <TJ-> bellflower: OK, but the fact you've got obstacles in the way of the disk isn't helping when we start out believing its a direct connect disk with no 'weird' translation going on. Anyhow, so now you know the cause. Loose the bridge :)
[19:11] <bellflower> TJ: Unfortunately, most laptops do not have space or connections for multiple HDs.
[19:11] <bellflower> TJ: But this has seriously been a big help. Knowing where the issue resides reveals a lot more possible solutions.
[19:14] <bellflower> I'm off to go swap some HDs around. Good luck to everybody else.
[19:16] <Gnjurac> hi i have some files that are generated but they are broken cant extact them if i dont rename them duno why
[19:16] <Gnjurac> demo.datagz
[19:16] <Gnjurac> cant extract if not rename to demo.data.gz
[19:17] <Gnjurac> so can i somehow mass rename them to ad . 2 leters from end
[19:21] <Octubre2> HI. I'm trying to import a .ova in VirtualBox but when is ending returns this report : http://paste.ubuntu.com/13249873/
[19:21] <Gnjurac> if i make binbash script how to tell it to read dire where script is located
[19:23] <daftykins> Octubre2: #vbox
[19:23] <Octubre2> thx daftykins
[19:23] <greedlexer> Octubre2: sounded hard
[19:24] <Gnjurac> me me answer me
[19:25] <k1l_> Gnjurac: best to ask in #bash for bash scripts etc.
[19:26] <SubCool> why is my sound going to my laptop speakers instead of my HDMI Montior? ive gone through the settings on the sounds tray. I have even tested the sounds via the sound tray to the hdmi monitor. ANd it works. but when i play a movie. it plays on the laptop.
[19:28] <greedlexer> SubCool: the program may over ride system settings. Check program sound output settings. Gnjurac Octubre2
[19:29] <Gnjurac> what
[19:29] <Octubre2> he is sick
[19:29] <SubCool> greedlexer, its a stream via chrome
[19:31] <akik> Gnjurac: you can use dirname and readlink to do that
[19:32] <SubCool> greedlexer, wtf?
[19:32] <Gnjurac> will try tky akik
[19:32] <Octubre2> xD
[19:32] <greedlexer> SubCool: you sure system settings are right
[19:33] <SubCool> i just attached a bluetooth headset, and it wont play to them either.
[19:36] <ulot0> hello
[19:36] <ulot0> how are you
[19:40] <melray> Can someone have a look at this and verify that I need to change write permissions and put the user in the mail group? http://paste.ubuntu.com/13250013/
[19:43] <SubCool> can sonmeone please help me with my speakers
[19:45] <latze> good evening
[19:48] <melray> Nevermind I got is solved...
[19:50] <latze> I have a Lite-On sata controller which causes a lot of issues with Xubuntu and the 4.x kernels (also with olders ones, but fewer issue there). Is this the right place to ask for help?
[19:50] <akik> ... nevermind ... and then nothing
[19:50] <isReKT2000> latze, it probably is drivers
[19:50] <latze> yes
[19:51] <SubCool> im going in circles, please.
[19:51] <latze> I guess so. But I was hoping someone has already experience with this sata controller and could give a hint on which drivers to use :-)
[19:51] <lostsoul> Anyone here lost their NetworkManager in ubuntu 14.0.4? Isn't showing up on the title bar and I"m connected
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> lostsoul type this in a terminal: nm-applet
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> lostsoul keep it in the channel
[19:54] <MonkeyDust> !pm | lostsoul
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> lostsoul stop
[19:56] <lostsoul> The nm-applets output: ** (nm-applet:7312): WARNING **: Could not initialize NMClient /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files
[19:56] <lostsoul> ** (nm-applet:7312): WARNING **: Could not initialize NMClient /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files
[19:57] <freeone3000> My upgrade to linux-image-3.16.0-53-generic seems to be stuck on the step "Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin". I'm running inside Hyper-V. Does this step usually take longe rthan 10 minutes, or can I somehow skip it?
[19:57] <lostsoul> Those are the two lines it put out.
[19:59] <freeone3000> Error "task modprobe:8380 blocked for more than 120 seconds. not tainted 3.16.0-30-generic #40~14.04.1-Ubuntu" is now the most recent error.
[19:59] <SubCool> nvm got it
[20:00] <epinky> !ping
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> lostsoul not sure what that error message means
[20:01] <SubCool> Here is a good question for you. WHen doing a UPgrade from 12. to 14.0 = via terminal. Do-release-upgrade. THis is a remote system. headless. Will there be any interaction necessary?
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> SubCool yes, a lot, i tried it... took several hours
[20:01] <lostsoul> Configured a DHCP and hosed up the config (after it was working), then when I got communications back the manager was not to be found.
[20:02] <lickalott> daftykins, bellflower, just sold the TV for $100. made $50 off of it that I can put towards something newer.
[20:02] <SubCool> MonkeyDust, i dont mind the time. but ... - if there is any intereaction on the host side that i can reach via terminal. kinda f'ed
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> SubCool and it was local here, remote may be even slower
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> SubCool but yes, you have to hit enter or 'yes' several times
[20:03] <Kinoko> imagine , my mobile have a good hardware, a very well placed on-off power button,,in a certain day, the mototrolla was meaning me to enforce an update from androed 4.1 to 4.4.2, ok, one day was been the suficient time fˆto LINUX SE ENVIROMNMENT, inbuilted in this shit 4.4.2 to DELETE THE POWER ON-OFF command of my mobile, what you say?
[20:03] <SubCool> i can do that via terminal cant i? or does it pop up on the host screen?
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> SubCool not sure, as i said, it was local here... just sayong, do-release-upgrade is slow
[20:04] <Kinoko> They are distorting LINUX SE USAGE , turning onto a virus
[20:05] <puka> hi guys
[20:06] <Pici> Kinoko: Does this rant have anything to do with Ubuntu? You're in a support channel right now.
[20:06] <puka> for a reason: "botnet ip" i was banned
[20:06] <puka> on this channel
[20:06] <puka> ... anyone know why that happens?
[20:06] <genii> Kinoko: Maybe you want the #android channel
[20:06] <Kinoko> Pici: of course, LINUX SE ubuntu uses too.
[20:06] <Pici> puka: You'll need to take it up with #freenode, #ubuntu doesn't perform any bans like that.
[20:07] <Kinoko> #android is a BAND OF STUPID THIEVES THAT ARE DESTROYING UBUNTU LAWS.
[20:07] <puka> ok another problem :) i'm so proud of me :D a guy on a forum need a script in python.. so i made for him the script that actually works EPIC good :D and the guy want to give me a .txt file to transform the file for him
[20:07] <puka> like he have the txt "him;else;adsaf;fdsgsd" etc and i transform that txt into verical that names
[20:07] <puka> so it's a chance to get firuses on xubuntu taking and open that .txt file?
[20:09] <puka> guys ?
[20:10] <wafflejock> puka: not likely, if you don't run the process that uses the file as root it has limited ability to do damage to the system since it can't modify things owned by root, that said there's always a chance of a bug being exploited by some file you pull from the internet
[20:10] <Kinoko> I am root, the shit gogle don't likes, why? this is linux, linux HAVE TO BE ROOT. if the shits from gogle don't like superuser? who is the superuser? they?
[20:10] <wafflejock> !language | Kinoko
[20:10] <genii> Kinoko: This is not the channel to carry on about Android or rant in
[20:10] <k1l_> puka: if you dont execute that file while not knowing what it does you cant get a virus from that
[20:10] <puka> it's a .txt file
[20:11] <puka> so it cant be a wirus if i run a script in python that (file.txt, "w")
[20:11] <puka> ??
[20:11] <Abe> Kinoko: No we are not always root most of the time we aren't thats why we use sudo
[20:12] <ioria> puka you can put every script you want in a .txt...
[20:12] <wafflejock> puka: extensions don't really guarantee anything about the contents, like k1l_ said though so long as it isn't marked executable it shouldn't be run as a program reading the contents of a file that isn't executable shouldn't expose you to any possible viruses, but viruses make use of bugs in software to do their dirty work sometimes
[20:13] <Octubre2> anybody knows how to extract a disk image from a .ova of virtualbox in ubuntu?
[20:13] <puka> soo if ... :(( i'm so scared now.. so if i have that script..
[20:13] <puka> with open ("uh.txt", "r") as fisier:
[20:13] <puka> a = fisier.read().replace(";", "\n")
[20:13] <puka> with open ("uhfinal.txt", "w") as file:
[20:13] <puka> file.write(a)
[20:13] <puka> it's a chance to get a virus in my pc?
[20:14] <Pici> puka: thats just cat uh.txt | tr \; \\n > uhfinal.txt
[20:15] <puka> i learn pyton not command in terminal so for all things i do i try to use python scripts to learn more
[20:15] <puka> so how i can see if my pc is virused?
[20:15] <puka> cuz i'm kinda scarred right now
[20:15] <Abe> I think you ment infected*
[20:15] <genii> puka: If you do: file whateveritscalled.txt it will tell you if it's actually a text file or something different, before you try to do something with it
[20:15] <Pici> puka: thats a harmless python script. also, this is #ubuntu, not #python
[20:16] <BluesKaj> puka, you worry too much
[20:16] <vitimiti> Hi, how can I upload the packages I installed through ubuntu-make? Do I have to redownload them one by one?
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> !av > puka
[20:17] <puka> uh.txt: ISO-8859 text, with very long lines, with no line terminators
[20:17] <puka> is this ok?
[20:17] <genii> It's fine
[20:17] <Chaser> Octubre2: You can use tar to extract an ova
[20:17] <puka> genii ur a good guy u teach me something new today :D
[20:18] <Octubre2> thank you Chaser just now i was reading this on google finally
[20:18] <puka> so my pc it's not virused right? cuz that is a truly .txt file
[20:20] <genii> puka: The odds are your computer is fine
[20:20] <puka> genii also how i know if i run command as a root or a user
[20:20] <puka> it's higly recommended to run commands as a user?
[20:20] <puka> if yes how i do that?
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> puka type whoami
[20:20] <ioria> or id
[20:20] <puka> it say puka
[20:21] <puka> when i type whoami
[20:21] <bryn> d
[20:22] <genii> puka: Any commands you run normally will just be as the user you are logged in as. If you put sudo before the command ( for command-line applications) or if you put gksu (for graphical applications) then it will be running as an administrator
[20:22] <puka> hmm genii i want to know more about how i can detect if a file is viruse dor not
[20:23] <ioria> clamav
[20:23] <xubuntu> hi
[20:24] <Guest54213> lml
[20:24] <puka> genii: also if i want to open a .txt file and it say i need to insert a password it's kinda "stranger danger" ?
[20:25] <genii> puka: How did you attempt to open the file?
[20:25] <puka> double click
[20:25] <puka> and it say
[20:25] <puka> something utfo-8
[20:25] <puka> that the file it's not utfo-8 something like this
[20:25] <OerHeks> only if that .txt is outside your home, you would need sudo. else use your common sense.
[20:25] <puka> and i close the tab that appears
[20:25] <genii> puka: That is only a warning about the character set encoding, nothing to worry over
[20:27] <genii> puka: As ioria indicated, if you want to scan for viruses, install clamav and use that
[20:27] <puka> genii: so where u recomend to put files "no-name" if i want to open them?
[20:27] <puka> is that in ubuntu software center?
[20:27] <deniz946> Hello, can be ubuntu installed on a MAC?
[20:27] <genii> puka: Usually someplace like /home/puka/Downloads or /home/puka/incoming would be good
[20:27] <genii> !apple
[20:28] <genii> deniz946: The short answer is yes
[20:28] <puka> so should i install ClamTK ... it's gona eat rams???
[20:28] <deniz946> genii, but it's hard to make it work?
[20:28] <bekks> puka: Unused RAM is wasted RAM.
[20:28] <puka> yeah but i have only 2gb ram :D
[20:28] <genii> deniz946: Depending on model and EFI/UEFI, sometimes.
[20:29] <ioria> puka o yes
[20:29] <ioria> if you run in daemon mode
[20:29] <puka> genii: how i can add u to friends or something like that? cuz if i have problems anymore i need someone to contact
[20:29] <bekks> puka: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[20:29] <bekks> puka: just visit this channel again.
[20:29] <genii> puka: I am always available on here from 10am to 5pm weekdays, EDT time
[20:30] <puka> oh ok
[20:30] <puka> were r u from?
[20:30] <puka> i'm from romania :D
[20:30] <genii> puka: I am Canadian
[20:31] <puka> ok so what's the hour on ur country right now?
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> a vampire and grizzly adams
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> (joke)
[20:31] <Al3x_10m> 22:31
[20:31] <puka> not u alex :D
[20:31] <Al3x_10m> :P
[20:31] <Al3x_10m> i'm also from romania..
[20:32] <puka> nice :D
[20:32] <genii> puka: Right now it is 15:31
[20:32] <Pici> #ubuntu-offtopic exists for idle chatter, lets keep #ubuntu free for support questions.
[20:32] <puka> so u stay 2 hours online right?
[20:32] <bazhang> puka please take the chit chat to the offtopic channel
[20:33] <genii> puka: No, I an online 10:00 to 17:00 so 7 hours
[20:34] <goddard> how can i increase the file limit that is set in ubuntu
[20:34] <goddard> it is currently 1024
[20:35] <bekks> which "file limit"?
[20:35] <OerHeks> What application would need that?
[20:37] <TJ-> !ulimit | goddard
[20:37] <TJ-> hmmm... ubottu is on vacation?
[20:37] <OerHeks> nope
[20:37] <bazhang> ubottu, lag
[20:37] <bazhang> nopers
[20:37] <Pici> TJ-: no, there no factoid for ulimit
[20:37] <OerHeks> just not doing its job, like keeping a log.
[20:37] <ioria> ^_^
[20:37] <akik> goddard: look into /etc/security/limits.conf
[20:38] <TJ-> Pici: drat, I thought there was!
[20:38] <goddard> akik: i tried but it is write protected even when using sudo
[20:38] <k1l_> goddard: can you give more details what you do and what error you get exactly?
[20:39] <akik> goddard: it should be a normal file
[20:41] <OerHeks> if i use 'sysctl fs.file-max' in 15.04, i get fs.file-max = 600206
[20:42] <akik> i think goddard means nofile open files per process
[20:43] <goddard> akik: its helpful when using inotify
[20:43] <bekks> goddard: helpful for what?
[20:43] <goddard> functions of inotify
[20:43] <k1l_> goddard: so you want to increase the inotify limit?
[20:44] <bekks> goddard: a full problem description could be handy.
[20:44] <k1l_> goddard: its best to give all that informations in the first questions so people dont get frustrated of having to ask every detail and wait for the answer
[20:45] <ignacio> Wow
[20:45] <ignacio> Congrats, Ubuntu is on GCI
[20:46] <goddard> Here is an example of the value I want to change
[20:46] <goddard> ulimit -n
[20:46] <bekks> goddard: And what for you want to change it? Which error message do you get when doing what?
[20:55] <truckcrash> Anyone know why my rsync transfers are always so slow (like 2KB/s on average)?
[20:55] <truckcrash> Im not even sure how to trouble shoot it from here
[20:56] <truckcrash> the internet in general is not that slow (at either end)
[20:56] <john_doe_jr> when I do a make command to build some software..where does that binary usually get built? Is it in the bin folder or something?
[20:56] <andres_> hola soy nuevo aqui quiero que me ayusen por favor
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> truckcrash rsync from..to what?
[20:56] <Pici> john_doe_jr: generally. or somewhere within the folder you run make from.
[20:57] <genii> !es | andres_
[20:57] <wileee> !details | truckcrash
[20:57] <truckcrash> local machine to my vps
[20:57] <john_doe_jr> Pici: how would I know?
[20:57] <truckcrash> wileee, I will gladly give more details,but like i say Im not sure what else to provide. I can answer any questions you have
[20:58] <Pici> john_doe_jr: look for new executable files?
[20:58] <wileee> truckcrash, playing dumb does not help basic details are basic details.
[20:59] <truckcrash> wileee, please enlighten me, what else would you like to know.
[20:59] <truckcrash> ?
[20:59] <wileee> attitudes get a free ignore
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> truckcrash what were you doing, prior to coming here... what brings you here
[21:01] <Chaser> truckcrash: if you scp a big file do you get more throughput ?
[21:01] <Chaser> (would start there)
[21:02] <genii> wileee: Please try to be civil, this user does not appear to be purposely giving vague information, they likely just need someone to ask the right questions to elicit it
[21:03] <truckcrash> MonkeyDust, I would like to transfer some files from my local machine to my vps, so I opened the terminal, and typed the rsync command.
[21:03] <truckcrash> Chaser, I will try with a larger file and let you konw
[21:03] <Chaser> truckcrash: if this was subsequent rsync, then there may not be much to transfer at all :)
[21:04] <truckcrash> Chaser: just trying to find a new big file to transfer now :)
[21:07] <wileee> genii, this channel as is addressed above by a mod has a problem with a the least regular user coming here and not diving basic details. If I'm treated with an attitude I'm glad to mirror it, that was not started by me nor should I have to play the drama.
[21:07] <wileee> sorry for spelling errors
[21:08] <OerHeks> touch abc.txt && truncate -s 256M abc.txt
[21:09] <reisio> you using truncate to do the opposite of truncate? :p
[21:10] <reisio> that's villianous
[21:10] <jamesguessis> where do I ask for help?
[21:10] <OerHeks> oh i can fill it with random data too,..
[21:10] <k1l_> jamesguessis: here :)
[21:10] <genii> jamesguessis: If you give a brief description here, someone should try to help
[21:11] <jamesguessis> ok, so I'm trying to build a program from it's source, but when I run `make` it gives me the error saying it can't find uuid
[21:11] <jamesguessis> but I have uuid-dev installed
[21:12] <angelica_> hi how to uninstal xubuntu i need to put a fresh copy in it ?
[21:13] <ubuntu> hello
[21:13] <ubuntu> i'm using ubuntu
[21:13] <angelica_> hi
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> angelica_ use gparted on a live dvd or usb, delete the ubuntu partition, reinstall
[21:14] <Guest37133> Hi
[21:14] <k1l_> angelica_: just install over the old one
[21:14] <Guest37133> this is ubuntu 5.10
[21:14] <Guest37133> Live cd
[21:14] <Chaser> jamesguessis: uuid-dev doesn't seem to install uuid binary just dev files. I would install uuid package
[21:14] <genii> jamesguessis: Is this some program you need to make because it's not already provided in the repositories or in a PPA?
[21:14] <angelica_> it will delete the old one?(my intent)
[21:14] <k1l_> jamesguessis: what program exactly? what ubuntu exactly? what exact error? (in a pastebin)
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> Guest37133 you mean 15.10?
[21:14] <Guest37133> or 16.04
[21:17] <angelica_> i have xubuntu on usbpen but when i insert it on this older version of xubuntu instead of autorun the install it run how call it simulation of it till the pen is in
[21:18] <jamesguessis> well the program I want is here https://github.com/MCMrARM/mcpelauncher-linux
[21:18] <jamesguessis> I'm using 16.04
[21:18] <angelica_> how is called here the exe?
[21:18] <jamesguessis> http://pastebin.com/8GxVTWnj
[21:19] <jamesguessis> and that's the make output
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> angelica_ insert the usb stick, reboot, select usb (F12 or so)
[21:19] <k1l_> jamesguessis: "lsb_release -d" gives you what output?
[21:19] <angelica_> ok ty alot will try
[21:20] <jamesguessis> k1l_ Ubuntu Xenial Xerus (development branch)
[21:21] <MonkeyDust> jamesguessis if you want to try 16.04, better use a vm
[21:21] <MonkeyDust> jamesguessis it's what i do
[21:22] <wileee> angelica_, This a wubi download?
[21:22] <jamesguessis> MonkeyDust: whelp it's too late now xD
[21:22] <angelica_> wubi?
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> angelica_ don't use wubi, it's the worst invention since alcohol free beer
[21:23] <wileee> angelica_, If you working with the regular downloaded iso, never mind, there was another install type called wubi
[21:23] <angelica_> sadly didnt work with f12 keep engasging the simulation
[21:23] <goddard> k1l_: here is an example http://entrproject.org/
[21:23] <angelica_> a ok :)
[21:24] <goddard> bekks: ^
[21:25] <MonkeyDust> jamesguessis you actually installed 16.04 ?
[21:25] <wileee> angelica_, you mention a 'exe' and 'simulation' can you share more on those?
[21:25] <angelica_> when i wad on windows i inserted the pen i had the option to see if i want install xubutu or try it first if i like it now with xubuntu installed the pen just force me in the try simulation
[21:25] <jamesguessis> MonkeyDust: yeah, about a week ago, works just fine
[21:25] <angelica_> /whe i had
[21:26] <wileee> angelica_, Ah simulation is a live run?
[21:26] <goddard> k1l_: if go to to the section "Watching for New Files"
[21:26] <angelica_> yea didn t find the right word
[21:26] <angelica_> live run
[21:26] <goddard> k1l_: i use find instead of LS so I can get a recursive list
[21:26] <jamesguessis> er works fine other than letting me have uuid properly
[21:26] <MonkeyDust> jamesguessis great, but you'll have to go to #ubuntu+1 for support
[21:27] <wileee> angelica_, Cool, so you have to boot the usb, you may have figured this out already, wont work from windows unless in a virtual.
[21:27] <TJ-> angelica_: I've not looked at the ISO boot code for xubuntu recently, but that could be because it detects an existing installation and doesn't want you to accidentically wipe it out without realizing
[21:28] <jamesguessis> MonkeyDust: so I should ask about my uuid problem there?
[21:29] <vn> only UEFI option I can find in my Award BIOS is related to CD/DVD and from what im googling, my DVD boot issues (its freezing on debian, ubuntu, arch, lubuntu and kali2, before I can get a shell or syslog) seem to be related to UEFI..any hints on what/where I should check? I'm also told to try nomodeset, but there are radeon issues...kinda lost
[21:29] <angelica_> yea but my intent is to wipe out because who put previous xubuntu didnt give me the pass so if i use it so after a waile he ask me the pass i clarly dont have
[21:29] <angelica_> so wanted to put a fresh xubuntu in
[21:30] <angelica_> as i put this on this notepad
[21:30] <puka> have a awesome night guys
[21:30] <puka> cya
[21:30] <angelica_> ty u too
[21:32] <angelica_> for the boot the pc seem cheking external device first so should see the pen or even the win xp i put to try to delete this old version of xubuntu
[21:32] <MonkeyDust> jamesguessis yes, but 16.04 isnt even in alpha yet
[21:33] <angelica_> buyed this old pc at low cost but now i cant put my fresh xubuntu i m stik to some one else stuff?
[21:33] <wileee> angelica_, how did you load the pen with xubuntu?
[21:34] <MonkeyDust> jamesguessis https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[21:34] <angelica_> inserted the pen the activated the pc
[21:34] <OEP> Is there anyone here with experience with the Apache 2 MPM ITK module on Ubuntu 14.04? I am trying to use it but get the "No MPM loaded" error when I start Apache.
[21:34] <wileee> angelica_, How did you put ubuntu on the pen for the install?
[21:34] <angelica_> charge normaly but instead the old xubuntu or instalation start the live
[21:35] <MonkeyDust> OEP is that a server? if yes, there's also #ubuntu-server
[21:35] <Quake2> i love you angelica_
[21:35] <OEP> MonkeyDust: Yep, thanks for the tip. I will ask there.
[21:35] <angelica_> wasn t me , ahah why XD cause i m noob :)
[21:35] <angelica_> the guy where i buy the pc
[21:35] <angelica_> buyed
[21:36] <bekks> goddard: You provided a link, but didnt answer my question.
[21:36] <angelica_> sr for my english and ty alot guys for all
[21:36] <goddard> bekks: what?
[21:36] <bekks> goddard: 1113 222358 < goddard> k1l_: here is an example http://entrproject.org/
[21:36] <wileee> angelica_, What is your native language?
[21:36] <g1bbs> does anyone use Gerrit for code review? Or other tool suggestions?
[21:37] <angelica_> italian
[21:37] <wileee> !it | angelica_ might be more helpful
[21:37] <reisio> man, nobody's named Angelica anymore, far out
[21:37] <reisio> angelica_: don't apologize because English speakers mostly only speak a single language these days :p
[21:38] <wileee> heh I speak gibberish
[21:38] <Al3x_10m> rofl:)))
[21:38] <goddard> bekks: go to a directory with more then 1024 files and then type in your terminal "find /your/path | entr echo "file change detected" "
[21:38] <angelica_> :) eheh
[21:38] <angelica_> daccordo grazie ubottu
[21:38] <wileee> not a slant on you angelica_ just a joke. ;)
[21:38] <angelica_> ma dove lo digito?
[21:38] <Al3x_10m> qua
[21:39] <cristian_c> !italian | angelica_
[21:39] <angelica_> know wilee nice one :)
[21:40] <angelica_> posso tener aperte entrambe ? se digito qui?
[21:40] <MonkeyDust> angelica_ stop
[21:40] <angelica_> sr
[21:41] <angelica_> was answering to ubotto red typing message are private or just highlited ?
[21:42] <k1l_> highlighted if someone writes you nickname
[21:42] <k1l_> angelica_: like this
[21:42] <angelica_> a ok got it :)
[21:42] <MonkeyDust> angelica_ and ubottu is a (ro)bot, a program, a script
[21:43] <angelica_> well he helped :)
[21:43] <g1bbs> does anyone here have the title "architect" at their company?
[21:44] <k1l_> g1bbs: better ask that in ##chat or #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:44] <goddard> bekks: i have never ran into a problem like this
[21:44] <Seveas> g1bbs: I used to have that in my jobtitle at some point when we couldn't figure out what I would do ;)
[21:44] <g1bbs> k1l_: I was specifically interested in Android architects
[21:44] <reisio> if I had that title, I'd fire myself
[21:44] <k1l_> g1bbs: more chance to find android devs on #android
[21:45] <reisio> angelica_: private messages open in a tab with the user's nick as its name, or have hyphens surrounding the user name
[21:45] <root_> ls
[21:45] <g1bbs> on paper it could be interesting. Take business requirements and lay out actual components and OOP design for use
[21:45] <root_> 420
[21:45] <reisio> architect?
[21:45] <reisio> cushy job if you can get it
[21:45] <reisio> great way to get paid by not doing much
[21:45] <g1bbs> bout right
[21:45] <g1bbs> that's my understanding heh
[21:45] <reisio> this hotel? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burj_Al_Arab
[21:46] <reisio> the architect drew a curved line in the shape of a sail
[21:46] <reisio> ...and then the _engineers_ built it
[21:46] <reisio> after designing it
[21:46] <reisio> architect wears cardigan, engineer wears self respect :p
[21:47] <angelica_> ty reiso:)
[21:47] <angelica_> reisio
[21:47] <reisio> angelica_: type r-e-i, then hit TAB
[21:47] <reisio> tab completion, it's great; use it everywhere not just on IRC
[21:48] <nemdiggers> reisio: I wish linux had question marks
[21:48] <reisio> nemdiggers: me, too
[21:48] <reisio> question marks rule
[21:49] <vn> only UEFI option I can find in my Award BIOS is related to CD/DVD and from what im googling, my DVD boot issues (its freezing on debian, ubuntu, arch, lubuntu and kali2, before I can get a shell or syslog) seem to be related to UEFI..any hints on what/where I should check? I'm also told to try nomodeset, but there are radeon issues...kinda lost, any ideas/hints?
[21:49] <reisio> maybe that was his ideal use of a second chance :p
[21:49] <reisio> vn: try a usb instead
[21:49] <reisio> vn: in fact, try a usb regardless, optical media is dead
[21:50] <vn> reisio: my 14.04 on USB does the same
[21:50] <angelica_> r-e-i,
[21:50] <reisio> angelica_: r, then e, then i, then tab
[21:51] <Al3x_10m> hahaa nice
[21:51] <reisio> that is, type the beginning of a nickname
[21:51] <Al3x_10m> =P
[21:51] <angelica_> mm it didn t complete for me k will retry
[21:51] <reisio> and then TAB to finish it without having to type it all (or risk a typo)
[21:51] <reisio> even more useful for commands you don't want to mess up
[21:51] <reisio> and paths
[21:51] <vn> heh that reminds me when I learnt about nick completion, I couldnt believe it
[21:51] <angelica_> reisio, got it ty :)
[21:51] <angelica_> worked?
[21:52] <reisio> vn: I still can't
[21:52] <reisio> angelica_: yarp
[21:52] <angelica_> :)
[21:52] <reisio> angelica_: now go into xchat's settings and change that comma to a colon :p
[21:52] <reisio> /set completion_suffix :
[21:53] <reisio> send that as a msg here :p
[21:53] <reisio> everyone will look at you if you use a comma
[21:53] <reisio> CONFORM!
[21:53] <reisio> one of us, one of us
[21:53] <reisio> vn: colons, amirite?
[21:54] <angelica_> :) will try
[21:55] <vn> reisio: yea?
[21:57] <reisio> vn: word
[21:57] <vn> I wonder if people try to autocomplete my nick..heh
[21:58] <angelica_> ,
[21:58] <angelica_> XD i m lost lol
[21:58] <benbro1> what package adds /etc/init.d/paulseaudio ?
[21:58] <vn> benbro1: you're looking for pulseaudio
[21:58] <benbro1> when installting the pulseaudio package on a server I don't see the file
[21:58] <benbro1> paulseaudio/pulseaudio
[22:00] <Seveas> ~$ dpkg -L pulseaudio | grep init.d
[22:00] <Seveas> /etc/init.d/pulseaudio
[22:00] <reisio> vn: I do, saves me the ': '
[22:00] <reisio> and also any typoes
[22:01] <vn> hehe
[22:02] <benbro1> Seveas: apt-get install pulseaudio -> on a server
[22:02] <benbro1> Seveas: can't see /etc/init.d/pulseaudio
[22:02] <vn> k so windows isnt uefi...no uefi options in bios..I shouldnt need anything special with that then I spose..enabled/disabled vt-d and IOMMU, no change
[22:02] <reisio> but yours is one of the few ultra-short nicks that my IRC client will complete for
[22:02] <reisio> usually I tell people with such tiny nicks to diaf :)
[22:02] <vn> hehe
[22:02] <Seveas> benbro1: which ubuntu version?
[22:03] <reisio> vn: what happens with usb boot, again?
[22:03] <benbro1> Seveas: 15.10 server
[22:04] <vn> reisio: usb or cd boot, it starts, then jams after 30 seconds, around whoopsie.service or networking.service without errors, even in debug
[22:04] <alem> Hello
[22:04] <reisio> vn: try the mini/mal image
[22:04] <reisio> alem: hi
[22:04] <Seveas> benbro1: dpkg -L pulseaudio | grep init
[22:04] <Seveas> does that show the file?
[22:04] <vn> reisio: minimal is even more minimal than server?
[22:04] <benbro1> Seveas: /usr/share/doc/pulseaudio/examples/pulseaudio.init.example
[22:05] <reisio> vn: oh did you want a server install?
[22:05] <Seveas> benbro1: interesting. please pastebin the output of apt-cache policy pulseaudio
[22:05] <alem> I seem to be having an issue with my NIC not wanting to come online. I recently had a motherboard/PSU problem, and have replaced the faulty hardware, but the only thing that is now presenting issues is the NIC. If I run lspci I see it listed, and I know outside the OS it is working as I get a PXE Boot option from the NIC, but otherwise I am lost. Nothing appears in syslog or dmesg (that I see about it anyways).
[22:05] <reisio> vn: I'm not sure it is, really; possibly not
[22:05] <vn> reisio: naw, desktop
[22:05] <Seveas> alem: please pastebin the output of: ip a l
[22:06] <vn> reisio: will try minimal and report
[22:06] <reisio> vn: then try the minimal install image
[22:06] <vn> awight
[22:06] <reisio> vn: less things are loaded, fewer chances for things to go pear shaped
[22:06] <alem> Seveas, I won't be able to pastebin (seeing as how I have no way to pastebin from that machine, and if the output is too long, I won't be able to copy it all here), but I can try to describe the output to you.
[22:06] <alem> Hold on one second.
[22:06] <Seveas> alem: copy it to a usb stick or take a picture with your cellphone?
[22:07] <benbro1> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/bzD3z6hN
[22:08] <benbro1> Seveas: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/amd64/pulseaudio/filelist
[22:08] <Seveas> benbro1: that's Really Weird. I have the same ubuntu and pulseaudio version and do get those files.
[22:08] <benbro1> http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/amd64/pulseaudio/filelist
[22:08] <benbro1> Seveas: in 14.04 I see the init.d script in the list of files. in 15.10 it's missing
[22:08] <benbro1> Seveas: maybe something replaced it?
[22:09] <alem> Seveas, http://imgur.com/baQRWrB
[22:09] <alem> Output of ip a l and lspci with a grep output
[22:10] <Seveas> benbro1: hmm. dpkg says the initscript comes from the package, but dpkg-deb --contents pulseaudio_1%3a6.0-0ubuntu13_amd64.deb doesn't list it. Digging a bit more.
[22:11] <Ricky_Rat5005> Just ran setup of Ubuntu Server on MS Hyper-V. It said it was done and needed to reboot, upon reboot there isn't any video. Any suggestions?
[22:12] <bekks> Ricky_Rat5005: Define "there want any video".
[22:12] <bekks> *wasnt
[22:12] <benbro1> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/xJxmvBTV
[22:12] <Seveas> benbro1: looks like it's my system that's wonky, not yours. the initscripts should have been removed by the upgrade: pulseaudio is now completely udev-driven.
[22:12] <benbro1> Sevas: how is pulseaudio started for each session?
[22:13] <benbro1> Seveas: what does udev-driven means? How am I supposed to start it on a server (headless) ?
[22:13] <benbro1> manually with pulseaudio -D ?
[22:13] <Seveas> benbro1: unfortunately, no idea
[22:13] <Ricky_Rat5005> bekks - Black Screen with what appears to be a pixelated Hyper-V writing
[22:14] <reisio> Ricky_Rat5005: I suggest you not waste time with Hyper-V
[22:14] <reisio> it's quite awful
[22:14] <reisio> particularly for Unix guests
[22:14] <reisio> but also very much just in general
[22:14] <Ricky_Rat5005> reisio While I appreciate the suggestion, that is the platform I am working in.
[22:14] <Seveas> alem: your network interface is the p10p1 interface. Is a network cable plugged in? If so, do a screenshot of the output of sudo ethtool p10p1
[22:14] <reisio> Ricky_Rat5005: then I pity you, a lot :D
[22:14] <reisio> Ricky_Rat5005: make _sure_ you're at least using the latest version of Hyper-V
[22:15] <reisio> earlier versions were _even more incredibly terrible at this_
[22:15] <Ricky_Rat5005> reisio Yes, it's a server 2012 R2 machine, Gen 2 Hyper-V
[22:15] <bekks> Ricky_Rat5005: and make sure you are using the "nomodeset" kernel option.
[22:15] <bekks> Ricky_Rat5005: Make _sure_ you have applied ALL patches available to Hyper-V.
[22:15] <reisio> also, it's hard to imagine you wouldn't want the server install image
[22:15] <reisio> and not the desktop
[22:15] <daftykins> nomodeset on a server install might not be relevant if a DE wasn't installed
[22:15] <Ricky_Rat5005> beeks Is that an option upon install?
[22:15] <reisio> which should not bother starting any graphics nonsense in the first place
[22:16] <daftykins> reisio: you'd think, yet plymouth remains oddly o0
[22:16] <bekks> Ricky_Rat5005: No. It is an option of "Windows Update".
[22:16] <Ricky_Rat5005> reiso it is the server install version, not desktop. I am not complaining that there isn't any gui, there isn't any display period. I can't see what is on the screen.
[22:16] <alem> Seveas, http://imgur.com/ggOQRbi
[22:16] <bekks> Ricky_Rat5005: use nomodeset.
[22:17] <bekks> !nomodeset | Ricky_Rat5005
[22:17] <amr> anyone here use iwlwifi as their wifi driver? having problems with power usage?
[22:17] <reisio> daftykins: for the server image?
[22:17] <alem> There is a cable plugged into the NIC, was initially, as I was hoping it would just pick up the static ip address I gave it before my hardware issues previously.
[22:17] <Seveas> alem: according to ethtool, no cable is plugged in (link detected: no). So check the cable.
[22:17] <Seveas> how did you give it a static IP address?
[22:18] <Seveas> networkmanager or /etc/network/interfaces?
[22:18] <daftykins> reisio: well, on installs - albeit with some text theme, heh
[22:18] <alem> During the OS installation option, so I would guess /etc/network/interfaces
[22:18] <Ricky_Rat5005> bekks looking at that link now. thx.
[22:19] <Seveas> alem: actually, that's probably networkmanager. Check the interfaces file. Maybe the interface name needs to be corrected there. Alternatively, check networkmanager, maybe it is hardcoding an interface name.
[22:20] <alem> Seveas, I mean, there definitely is a cable connected, I plugged it in twice to verify. The activity light is not lighting up, but it is definitely plugged in. Here is a picture of /etc/network/interfaces: http://imgur.com/MmxjUcS
[22:20] <reisio> daftykins: really, the server install has plymouth?
[22:21] * reisio shakes head at catering to Windows Server "people"
[22:21] <Seveas> alem: ok, so it did go in the interfaces file. In that file change eth0 to p10p1 and reboot.
[22:22] <daftykins> plymouth doesn't cater for anything i thought *shrug*
[22:23] <bekks> reisio: Yes.
[22:23] <tewea> I am new to eclipse in ubuntu version 15.04 and trying to set up maven in my project. I am at very initial stage of it. I have just installed Maven on my computer but when I try to create a new project with Maven, it is not showing any Maven option. I am using Eclipse
[22:23] <reisio> wow
[22:23] <goddard> bekks: any idea how to fix this issue?
[22:23] <daftykins> alem: regardless of link state that looks misconfigured
[22:23] <bekks> !15.05
[22:23] <bekks> !15.04
[22:23] <Seveas> daftykins: why?
[22:23] <reisio> one of the server guys at work rebooted our lone Unix box once
[22:24] <reisio> he said he only saw a login prompt
[22:24] <bekks> goddard: Fixing which issue?
[22:24] <reisio> and was concerned it wasn't running :p
[22:24] <goddard> bekks: go to a directory with more then 1024 files and then type in your terminal "find /your/path | entr echo "file change detected" "
[22:24] <Seveas> reisio: *facepalm*
[22:24] <reisio> I guess checking that the web server was working was too difficult
[22:24] <reisio> our top server admin, he is
[22:24] <bekks> goddard: And WHAT is the issue?
[22:24] <reisio> in his defense, he has no interest in that install
[22:24] <goddard> bekks: error for opening to many files
[22:24] <reisio> in his offense, he's a goof
[22:24] <alem> daftykins, in which way?
[22:25] <goddard> bekks: ulimit -n stats 1024
[22:25] <bekks> goddard: WHICH erro?
[22:25] <Seveas> reisio: could you please stick to support things in here. #ubuntu-offtopic is the chatter channel
[22:25] <alem> Because regardless, right now, it won't boot up into Ubuntu again. :/
[22:25] <daftykins> alem: doesn't matter, focus on the link state
[22:25] <bekks> goddard: How about FINALLY stating WHICH error you get when doing WHAT exactly?
[22:25] <goddard> entr: Too many files listed; the hard limit for your login class is 1024
[22:25] <Seveas> alem: where is it stuck?
[22:25] <reisio> Seveas: read your logged msgs sometime
[22:26] <alem> It can get to Grub, and then just boots to a black screen. After a few seconds, my monitor shows that it is in standby mode.
[22:26] <goddard> bekks: entr: Too many files listed; the hard limit for your login class is 1024
[22:26] <alem> So somewhere after Grub. I may just run boot-repair from a USB drive and see if that solves it.
[22:26] <daftykins> alem: 14.04 server?
[22:26] <daftykins> boot repair is not for situations like that
[22:27] <alem> daftykins, it is 14.04 server
[22:27] <Seveas> alem: then something in your hardware is still broken. A network connection not coming up cannot cause that.
[22:27] <alem> It seems to boot fine if I don't press any key on the keyboard to force it to book
[22:27] <tewea> I am new to eclipse in ubuntu version 15.04 and trying to set up maven in my project. I am at very initial stage of it. I have just installed Maven on my computer but when I try to create a new project with Maven, it is not showing any Maven option. I am using Eclipse
[22:27] <alem> If I just let the timer go through the process of the count-down timer, it boots without issue. If I press a button, it stops.
[22:27] <reisio> tewea: how'd you install maven?
[22:28] <Seveas> goddard: either raise your open file limit or use something more modern than entr (incron comes to mind)
[22:29] <tewea> reisio: from package manager
[22:29] <reisio> tewea: gj
[22:29] <bekks> goddard: I'm callsifying those message sas symptoms. What are you actually trying to accomplish? What is the reason behind your usage of inotify?
[22:29] <bekks> *classifying
[22:30] <goddard> bekks: im using entr
[22:30] <reisio> tewea: perhaps #maven or #eclipse ?
[22:30] <goddard> bekks: it is a program that allows you to watch the file system and execute commands
[22:30] <alem> Alright, so it has booted up, and... running ifconfig -a on p10p1 says it doesn't have any address associated with it.
[22:30] <neldogz> Hi everyone, it seems that Gnupg is ignoring the default-cache-ttl timeout set within the gpg-agent.conf file. Every time I enter my password it resets.
[22:30] <neldogz> Anyone else notice this issue?
[22:30] <tewea> reisio: maven
[22:30] <Seveas> alem: did you fix /etc/network/interfaces before rebooting?
[22:30] <bekks> goddard: I perfectly do know what inotify is and what it is for. But that doesnt answer my question to you.
[22:31] <alem> Yes, I manually brought up the interface this time, and it does have an IP on it now.
[22:31] <alem> So I guess I also have to change auto eth0 to auto p10p1
[22:31] <Seveas> yes...
[22:31] <goddard> bekks: if you dont know how to fix the error then just say so
[22:32] <bekks> goddard: If you cant explain your use case then just say so.
[22:32] <goddard> bekks: i have given you plenty of information
[22:32] <akik> goddard: so did you look into changing nofile in limits.conf ?
[22:32] <tewea> reisio: when i check the verstion(mvn --version) it is installed already
[22:32] <daftykins> goddard: back down and provide what you've been asked for if you expect any help
[22:32] <goddard> akik: ive gotten conflicting information
[22:32] <k1l_> goddard: why not use inotifywatch or such?
[22:32] <reisio> tewea: gj
[22:33] <daftykins> tewea: is anyone in any eclipse channels any help? (just a thought)
[22:33] <goddard> k1l_: i haven't heard of that why not? i dont know that is why i am asking a question
[22:33] <alem> So daftykins what was wrong with the layout/formatting?
[22:33] <daftykins> alem: doesn't matter, it's not going to bring an interface up if it's not :)
[22:34] <ArchNoob> Hello here!!
[22:34] <reisio> 'lo arch
[22:34] <alem> Alright, and then, finally, what could cause the system to not boot if I press the enter key to manually boot it, but will boot fine if I leave the system alone?
[22:34] <daftykins> alem: can you boot a live session of desktop on this thing?
[22:34] <ArchNoob> reisio: hey.. I got a problem, i don't know where to exactly post it..
[22:34] <k1l_> goddard: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/inotifywatch.1.html and http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/inotifywait.1.html
[22:34] <alem> I would have to either burn a CD or make a new USB stick, but I could, yes.
[22:34] <alem> daftykins, ^
[22:35] <k1l_> ArchNoob: if its a ubuntu issue state the issue here?
[22:35] <reisio> ArchNoob: cool
[22:35] <daftykins> alem: sounds like a plan, i'd match version if you can - it'd just be useful to see the NIC(s) working via DHCP away from the install
[22:35] <alem> Well, this is the DHCP server, so... ;)
[22:35] <alem> Thats why I need it back online. :)
[22:35] <daftykins> home or office?
[22:35] <alem> Home
[22:35] <bekks> goddard: You didnt answer my main question. But nvm, I'm not interested in discussing the symptoms of your issue anymore.
[22:36] <daftykins> haha, ridiculous setup
[22:36] <ArchNoob> I'm trying to record a video tutorial with simple screen recorder. And Seems whenever i'm plugged in AC cable, there is a noise coming .. I can't remove it.. How can i overcome this?
[22:36] <Seveas> alem: all that happened is that your interface name was changed due to the hardware change. With your configuration modified to match that, all should be good now :)
[22:36] <alem> It works nice for a learning environment. :P
[22:36] <goddard> bekks: i already gave you an example of exactly what I am trying to do and a way for you to reproduce it
[22:36] <Seveas> alem: though your dhcp server config may also have the interface name in it somewhere, check that.
[22:36] <daftykins> alem: you're learning a lot tonight :)
[22:36] <goddard> bekks: you just refuse to accept it for some strange reason
[22:36] <ArchNoob> Ps. I'm using ubuntu..
[22:36] <k1l_> ArchNoob: could be hardware issue
[22:37] <bekks> goddard: nvm, I'm not interested anymore.
[22:37] <goddard> bekks: an exact command is not good enough any more I guess
[22:37] <alem> Seveas, yeah, for the NIC. But I am still concerned that the GRUB booting issue. That is the second time it has done that. If I press the enter key to boot, before the count-down timer is finished, it stalls booting. If I leave it alone, it boots without a prooblem.
[22:38] <bekks> goddard: correct. because it does not explain the use case WHY that command was issued. big picture, go figure.
[22:38] <Seveas> alem: hitting enter there makes it pause so you can choose something else from the menu
[22:38] <ArchNoob> k1l_: well, whenever i'm not plugged in the voice is perfect. Is there any other channel i could post this to then?
[22:38] <ArchNoob> k1l_: Like the hardware channel?
[22:38] <daftykins> alem: oh i missed when you said it boots with no config, i take it you allocated it by hand and there was no change?
[22:38] <goddard> bekks: i want to be able to watch the file system and execute commands how is that not exact enough?
[22:38] <ArchNoob> k1l_: or Ubuntu sounds or something i don't know..
[22:38] <alem> No, Enter should allow me to boot it up faster in this situation. This is the GRUB boot menu (that boots for memtest, ubuntu, advanced options, etc)
[22:39] <Seveas> ArchNoob: sounds like interference and an improperly shielded audio input in your laptop. Not much you can do except stay on battery
[22:39] <k1l_> ArchNoob: well. when pluggin in the power cord there are mechanical/electrical things going on. and some of them are known to make a sound.
[22:39] <alem> daftykins, no, this was done through boot-repair a while back as I was experiencing issues getting drives to recognize a raid card correctly. It was magically push itself to the front of the list sometimes and then everything would fail to boot.
[22:40] <alem> I can try posting a video, but I fear it would take too long to upload. :D
[22:40] <daftykins> alem: what was done? just boot that live session, your install sounds exotic :P and by that i mean as stable as a cow in a shopping trolley
[22:40] <ArchNoob> Well, i guessed that for sure.. That the electrical signals and stuff are interfering .. I guess I have to buy another battery then..
[22:40] <alem> It used to be stable before I had to switch the motherboard out.
[22:41] <ArchNoob> cause it stays for like, ten minutes and dead..!! **
[22:41] <alem> The live session won't help fix a GRUB Booting issue if the live session bypasses the instance of grub that is having the problem.
[22:41] <goddard> bekks: ?
[22:42] <daftykins> alem: i'm surprised your failures didn't take the RAM with it, did you memtest to be sure?
[22:42] <alem> Yep
[22:42] <akik> alem: do you mean that when you turn on your computer, you only get the grub timeout counting down and don't see the grub entries?
[22:42] <goddard> k1l_: how can i use that program?
[22:43] <alem> akik, no. I mean, when I get the grub timout counting down, if I press enter to boot Ubuntu early (as opposed to waiting till it counts down to 0) it fails to boot. If I let the grub timeout countdown finish counting down to 0 completely, it works fine.
[22:44] <akik> alem: sorry don't know, they should do exactly the same thing
[22:44] <alem> Yeah, I know, that is why I am sorta confused.
[22:45] <alem> I assume it is some BIOS feature that is specially built for Windows that might be causing the problem.
[22:45] <Sabbath> Have you tried reinstall grub?
[22:45] <alem> I just tried that, and will reboot soon to see what happens.
[22:47] <akik> alem: what i've noticed that setting GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET to an empty value, makes all the grub entries visible vs. "hidden"
[22:47] <daftykins> alem: that's a bit of a stretch. is your OS install on-RAID or off?
[22:47] <lostsoul> Ubuntu 14.04, I have lost the NetworkManager. When on-line, no indicator on top bar. Any suggestions? Can't even launch my VPN. service.
[22:47] <alem> My OS install is not on a RAID system in any fashion. I have storage devices on RAID however that are in the fstab file.
[22:48] <daftykins> alem: is this basically the first bunch of boot attempts since the rebuild?
[22:48] <alem> daftykins, yep
[22:49] <daftykins> alright, pull all your drives and reduce it to the minimal config and boot a live session of desktop to test the board out
[22:49] <alem> And the same thing happens after reinstalling grub, it just loads a black screen and the monitor goes into timeout mode.
[22:49] <k1l_> goddard: i am sure i linked you the man pages
[22:49] <Seveas> lostsoul: did you try rebooting? nm-applet sometimes crashes for me and the only way to get it back is a reboot.
[22:49] <daftykins> anything else will be a total waste of effort
[22:49] <daftykins> alem: what make + model is the new mobo?
[22:49] <goddard> k1l_: i am sure you did as well but it doesn't show an example of watching the file system and then executing a command
[22:50] <Razzdoll> Does anybody know what soft and hard line to set for the script quota to be able to set a user to 300mb, and 5gigs
[22:50] <isReKT2000> or maybe running nm-applet in terminal
[22:50] <alem> ASUS m5a99x pro r2.0
[22:50] <Sabbath> Lostsoul: run sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager restart
[22:50] <daftykins> alem: ok do the above and check the BIOS version
[22:51] <lostsoul> I get some kind of strange error, that I haven't found a resolution. I can probably duplicate if you care to see it. It's about 4 or 5 lines.
[22:51] <alem> Hm.. it isn''t necessarily that pushing the enter key fails it to boot. It just seems to be that every other time it boots, it fails.
[22:51] <isReKT2000> pastebin it
[22:51] <alem> 1 works, 1 doesn't, and it keeps repeating that cycle.
[22:52] <daftykins> it's time to get serious, not debate the quirks of a boot menu :)
[22:52] <daftykins> the current BIOS version (i.e. newest available) is 2501
[22:52] <isReKT2000> we've should've gotten serious already ;)
[22:52] <k1l_> goddard: this is one example howto: https://xaroumenosloukoumas.wordpress.com/2011/01/28/watching-directories-for-file-changes-with-inotifywait/
[22:53] <lostsoul> sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager restart
[22:53] <lostsoul> [sudo] password for jack:
[22:53] <lostsoul> sudo: /etc/init.d/NetworkManager: command not found
[22:53] <lostsoul> jack@record:~$
[22:53] <daftykins> isReKT2000: i was trying, too much faff going on - nice grammar btw ;)
[22:53] <daftykins> lostsoul: don't paste here please.
[22:53] <daftykins> lostsoul: "sudo service network-manager restart" i think is what you're after, but that's pre-15.04
[22:53] <lostsoul> sorry...
[22:54] <isReKT2000> isn't systemctl supposed to be used?
[22:54] <daftykins> only if it's there
[22:54] <daftykins> not all supported releases use it yet.
[22:54] <Seveas> lostsoul: it's /etc/init.d/network-manager, not NetworkManager.
[22:54] <daftykins> not that init scripts are the way at all :)
[22:54] <isReKT2000> idk if systemd is on his system
[22:55] <k1l_> isReKT2000: depends on the ubuntu version number
[22:55] <isReKT2000> Seveas, that's pre-15.04, as said
[22:55] <daftykins> no my suggestion is pre-15.04
[22:55] <daftykins> isReKT2000: you're not really adding to this situation, just parroting
[22:55] <isReKT2000> k1l_, yeah
[22:55] <isReKT2000> daftykins, /me leaves
[22:55] <Seveas> the initscript still works on 15.10, it just redirects to systemctl
[22:55] <k1l_> yep
[22:56] <isReKT2000> oh, well I guess
[22:56] <alem> daftykins, it is at 2501 already
[22:56] <Seveas> I really wish ubuntu would actually remove the initscripts. It'll be impossible to unlearn using them otherwise :)
[22:57] <daftykins> alem: alright, so pull the unneeded devices and run a minimal config with the live session, checking functionality.
[22:57] <isReKT2000> systemd is there already so removing them would be fine
[22:57] <lostsoul> Isn't finding that one either, I will look around for network stuff there...
[22:57] <daftykins> lostsoul: version?
[22:57] <k1l_> isReKT2000: not if there is no working systemd functionality
[22:58] <isReKT2000> k1l_, yeah, but maybe in a few versions it would be done
[22:58] <lostsoul> the 'service network-manager restart' seems to have executed, but can't see any change.
[22:59] <isReKT2000> restarted yet? or does it do it on boot?
[23:00] <lostsoul> 14.04 desktop + 3.19.0-30-generic
[23:00] <isReKT2000> one question though
[23:00] <isReKT2000> does it disappear straight away?
[23:00] <isReKT2000> or it does it after a period of time
[23:02] <alem> daftykins, will be a while. Have to download a 14.04 LTS iso and take everything out....
[23:03] <daftykins> alem: just disconnect...
[23:03] <daftykins> lostsoul: what are you after? what's going on?
[23:03] <alem> That wouldn't help me in anyway.
[23:04] <daftykins> you obviously do not have 20 years hardware experience
[23:05] <alem> Well, or you could be more concrete with your answer. Disconnect from IRC, disconnect hardware, etc. ;)
[23:05] <daftykins> the extraneous hardware components that i've already stated 3 times in a row
[23:06] <Latrodectus> um i'm trying to use gmusicbrowser and i encountered: "playing error: can't create sink 'autoaudio'", what's the fix for this?
[23:06] <daftykins> i'm not sure how much clearer that kind of basic methodology needs to be?
[23:06] <daftykins> Latrodectus: i take it a close and reopen didn't help?
[23:06] <Latrodectus> yen=
[23:06] <Latrodectus> *yes
[23:06] <Latrodectus> and i've also killed it completely and restarted it, then i tried a reboot
[23:06] <daftykins> restart and test the guest session?
[23:07] <Latrodectus> will do
[23:09] <Latrodectus> guest session is missing a plugin
[23:09] <daftykins> mp3 playback that sounds like
[23:10] <daftykins> try playing another format if possible
[23:10] <Latrodectus> the thing is that i've used it before, and i haven't changed anything on the system since i tried it the first time (not in guest session)
[23:12] <daftykins> so what prompted this?
[23:13] <Latrodectus> i have no idea
[23:13] <Latrodectus> i specifically have this system setup to be isolated from changes
[23:16] <Latrodectus> http://pastebin.com/gwBegcpT | error output when started from terminal
[23:17] <Latrodectus> i guess you were right
[23:17] <Latrodectus> but how did these codecs get deleted?
[23:18] <Latrodectus> the only thing i can think of is bleachbit (i run it semi often but i haven't had problems like this on other systems that i run it on...)
[23:20] <daftykins> i've heard of quirks from that one
[23:20] <Latrodectus> good to know
[23:21] <Latrodectus> ty for the help
[23:25] <just_some_guy> hi
[23:25] <just_some_guy> does anybody knows how to change the order of the minimize maximize and close buttons to be similiar to windows?
[23:25] <just_some_guy> in ubuntu 14.04
[23:25] <wileee> on the right just_some_guy
[23:26] <k1l_> just_some_guy: you mean on the right side?
[23:26] <just_some_guy> no
[23:26] <just_some_guy> i mean the order of the buttons themselves
[23:26] <just_some_guy> to be minimize maximize and then close
[23:27] <just_some_guy> and not maximize minimize and then close
[23:27] <wileee> just_some_guy, gconf-editor has editing
[23:27] <just_some_guy> i tried that
[23:27] <just_some_guy> but it doesn't change
[23:27] <OerHeks> just_some_guy, dconf, http://askubuntu.com/questions/9867/how-to-switch-window-controls-to-the-left-gnome-shell
[23:27] <k1l_> see org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout
[23:27] <OerHeks> minde the : at the end or front
[23:28] <OerHeks> it is a seperator, you can put it in the middle too,
[23:28] <just_some_guy> i remember doing that in 12.04
[23:29] <just_some_guy> but for some reason it's not working on 14.04
[23:29] <OerHeks> not sure you need to logout, but surely need to restart a browser to take effect
[23:30] <just_some_guy> so i will try to logout and login later
[23:30] <just_some_guy> hopefully it will work
[23:35] <RubyDZ> hi
[23:35] <smeraldi> film zorba il greco
[23:36] <RubyDZ> i have a question not related to ubuntu ... does anyone know a good irc channel like this for windows support?
[23:36] <bekks> smeraldi: wrong network.
[23:36] <bekks> RubyDZ: ##windows
[23:36] <OerHeks> RubyDZ, ##windows perhaps?
[23:36] <RubyDZ> in freenode?
[23:36] <bekks> RubyDZ: yes.
[23:36] <OerHeks> mind the double ## as it is not official microsoft
[23:36] <RubyDZ> ok
[23:36] <RubyDZ> thanks guys
[23:37] <OerHeks> have fun
[23:37] <Jonny_Kenilworth> Hey Guys,
[23:38] <Jonny_Kenilworth> What command do I use to add 2015 to these file names in one go. "Together.S1E2.hdtv.mp4" to "Together (2015).S1E2.hdtv.mp4"
[23:38] <Jonny_Kenilworth> got a lot of files to do.
[23:39] <k1l_> Jonny_Kenilworth: ask in #bash for regular expressions
[23:39] <Jonny_Kenilworth> k1l_: Thanks
[23:40] <Latrodectus> daftykins: about my codecs beging deleted, what log file would monitor that?
[23:40] <daftykins> it's highly unlikely something would pick a package to remove
[23:41] <daftykins> but apt's history log would
[23:41] <Latrodectus> ty
[23:42] <Latrodectus> where are those stored?
[23:43] <Latrodectus> nvr mind man'd apt-get
[23:43] <Latrodectus> oh, it's not in there
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[23:46] <boy_13_webcam> I LIKE CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESE! I LIKE CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESE!
[23:46] <MaX_504> I LIKE CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESE! I LIKE CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESE!
[23:46] <RoseRed__> I LIKE CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESE! I LIKE CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESE!
[23:46] <RoseRed__> I LIKE CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESE! I LIKE CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESE!
[23:46] <Seveas> Drone`++
[23:46] <OerHeks> set the channel on +r ..
[23:47] <DalekSec> OerHeks: Already happened.
[23:47] <dopstar> OerHeks: what does setting the channel on +r do?
[23:47] <Latrodectus> damn those spammers
[23:47] <Latrodectus> dopstar: only registered accounts can access this chan
[23:47] <daftykins> back on topic now :)
[23:47] <silva> It's just one person with a bunch of bots.
[23:47] <silva> Okay, on topic. This is a support channel.
[23:48] <dopstar> Latrodectus: okay thanks, how do i register my nick?
[23:48] <silva> Register via NickServ.
[23:49] <silva> https://help.gnome.org/users/empathy/stable/create-account.html.en
[23:51] <Seveas> !register
[23:55] <Abe> The amazing Salamander Man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27oCUgnPRx4
[23:55] <Latrodectus> abe?
[23:56] <daftykins> Abe: not on topic. do you have a support question? if not, please depart.
[23:57] <Abe> Im sorry xD
[23:59] <peterrivassss> hello guys
[23:59] <reisio> 'lo
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[14:06] <flocculant> balloons_: ping
[14:17] <balloons_> pong
[14:24] <flocculant> balloons: hi :)
[14:24] <flocculant> so this jenkins thing - and at least checking iso boots
[14:25] <flocculant> I check my two - but never report it to tracker - because all I actually do is make sure it reaches desktop
[14:25] <flocculant> if it looks like it's going to be much longer I'm going to create 2 real simple testcases and use them so my lot can at least see if something is bootable
[14:26] <flocculant> sigh, not 2 - 1 :)
[14:27] <flocculant> do you have a problem with that?
[14:33] <balloons> flocculant, post install tests?
[14:33] <balloons> adding a simple post-install test is not a bad idea at all no
[14:33] <balloons> as of right now, they don't exist. I just know there was talk at UOS to try and get some written and added
[14:34] <flocculant> no - not post-install
[14:34] <flocculant> pre- install
[14:34] <flocculant> at the moment we have livesession - but that includes running apps on the livesession
[14:35] <flocculant> what I'm after is something that is as simple as 'boot the iso' 'it loads'
[14:36] <flocculant> the last cycle I didn't bother reporting that on the live testcase
[14:36] <flocculant> and I really don't want to Pass it when all I'm doing is ensuring we have a bootable iso
[14:38] <flocculant> http://pastebin.com/kKSy6TQi effectively
[14:43] <balloons> flocculant, ahh the live session testcase?
[14:44] <flocculant> yea - includes running apps :)
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2015-11-13-#ubuntu-cn
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[01:53] <^k^> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • TPLINK路由器 与3G路由器如何配置 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473837 1实验器材：tplink路由器（192.168.1.1）一个没有无线的功能；3g路由器（192.168.1.253）一个（具备有线与无线功能）。 2、目的：宽带通进户网线，链接到tplink上，然后链接大麦盒，
[01:53] <^k^> ─> 看网络电视。另外将一跟网线链接3g路由器与tplink，想在家里用无线网络。 3、已经测试 …
[02:48] <cherrot> 360hitao 美中专线不能运送手机？
[02:58] <yunfan> cherrot: 应该可以 只不过要多出钱而已 我有个包裹 多加100多运费就能2天运到 显然是空运
[02:59] <cherrot> yunfan, 我还是选了美中专线，不过上面明确提示不承运手机电脑这些。。
[03:00] <yunfan> cherrot: 那可能是因为锂电池的问题
[03:01] <cherrot> yunfan, soga
[04:06] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 袋装人 : 1986年在墨西哥举行的第13届世界杯足球赛上。摩洛哥队与英格兰队交战前,英格兰队教练罗布森曾夸口说:"在这场比赛中,我们英国人简直可以把摩洛哥队装进袋里。"打成平局后,摩洛哥队的教练法里亚幽默地说:"蒙特利尔的天气实在太热了。罗布森先生不得不脱
[04:06] <^k^> ─> 去外套……所以,他没有口袋把我们装起来。"
[04:11] <^k^> 新 课堂教学和培训 • 第18课 学会论坛交流 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473839 1、打开Ubuntu中文论坛，点登录 2、进入课堂教学子版面 3、打开第18课，点发表回复 4、选一道题发布提交 zz: 刘老师 — 2015-11-13 12:09
[04:20] <MangHuo> test
[04:20] <ubrl> MangHuo:点点点. 12:18
[05:17] <DevOps> 大家后，ubuntu-server 14.04升级全是404，基本无法安装软件。谁有可用的源吗？（sina和阿里的试了，貌似没服务器的版本）
[05:17] <DevOps> 谢谢！
[05:21] <^k^> 新 课堂教学和培训 • 第18课 学会论坛交流 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473840 [ size=200] [size=200]7-3 D6 3.怎样上QQ的操作步骤 1.登录QQ,点信封进邮箱 2.点写信,收件人,主题,附件 [email protected] .操作任务 4.添加附件,我的电子邮件,点发送 [/size] [/size] zz: st86 — 2015-11-13 13:21
[05:32] <DevOps> anyboy is here?
[05:33] <^k^> 新 课堂教学和培训 • 第18课学会论坛交流 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473841 7-3 c6 怎样设制主页的操作步骤？ 1.点最上面菜单编辑首选项 2.输校园网 3.再点高级网络 4.上面252808打勾下面250 zz: st86 — 2015-11-13 13:32
[07:35] <^k^> 新 启动和引导 • 关于双系统引导问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473849 一开始我装的win7系统，后来安装Ubuntu kylin系统，现在是这样的，开机启动后，首先运行windows的引导，选择win7会正常启动，选择kylin后，会又出现kylin的系统引导选择，也就是我如果想用kylin系统需要进
[07:35] <^k^> ─> 行两次选择。 能不能把第二次选择去掉呢？ zz: liushilong — 2015-11-13 15:28
[08:10] <^k^> O0XX|Qiong: 拜帅哥
[08:23] <^k^> 新 启动和引导 • 求助，紧急，Ubuntu下不要自动加载Windows 分区 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473850 如标题，Ubuntu启动后会自动加载Windows 分区，现急需要禁用，各位大虾，是否有解决办法，谢谢 zz: parly — 2015-11-13 16:22
[08:46] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • 菜鸟请教：联想TD340安装15.04的问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473851 各位前辈大侠，机子之前了装麒麟版，用的有点别扭，打算重新装回15.04，机子有两个硬盘，做了raid的，重新安装15.04的话是否直接将原系统格掉直接安装即可？做完/,swap,home分区，后
[08:46] <^k^> ─> 要选安装启动引导器的设备，做过raid的应该怎么选？网上似乎没有教程，各位大侠不吝 …
[08:47] <MangHuo> test
[08:47] <ubrl> MangHuo:点点点. 16:44
[09:06] <nyfair> 今天上班做了一天评测，x265已经可以碾压x264了，x265可以直接msvc编译，从此告别gcc
[09:12] <yunfan> nyfair: 你们工作干嘛测这个
[09:13] <nyfair> yunfan: 我好歹还挂名在mpeg标准委员会好伐
[09:14] <yunfan> nyfair: 自封的吧
[09:14] <nyfair> yunfan: 随你
[09:14] <yunfan> nyfair: 嘿嘿 你们跟着g不就行了
[09:16] <nyfair> yunfan: 他们跪舔是他们的事，我跟g没有任何好处
[09:19] <yunfan> nyfair: 有好处 你可以舔一阵再跳槽嘛 跪得近 舔得好
[09:20] <yunfan> nyfair: 你昨天说创业 是有项目了还是怎么
[09:21] <nyfair> yunfan: 对g来说，那群写浏览器和搞销售的有利用价值，我这种做分析的对他们而言是另一个世界
[09:21] <nyfair> 没有，来玩吗
[09:21] <yunfan> nyfair: 你以为人家会分得这么细？
[09:21] <yunfan> 就想普通人眼里 程序员和拼电脑的是一样的
[09:22] <yunfan> nyfair: 没有有趣的项目 让我去做苦力 哼哼
[09:32] * palomino|working 轻抚 nyfair
[09:34] <nyfair> palomino|working: 菊苣！
[09:38] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • u盘安装系统，一开始的时候出现有光标，之后消失了。显示器亮着，但是黑屏， http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473852 u盘安装系统，一开始的时候出现有光标，之后消失了。显示器亮着，但是黑屏， zz: 大岛优子 — 2015-11-13 17:33
[09:41] <palomino|working> 下班。。。bye各位。。。
[11:14] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 说起来，你觉得我的声音的发音如何？最近的面试，对方面试官说到这个问题。。。
[11:15] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 挺好啊
[11:15] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 他们说你发音不好？
[11:15] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 反正我能听懂
[11:16] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 不过你我聊天没用德语啊
[11:16] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 发音不准，然后我想我的中文是不是也这样
[11:36] <^k^> 新 启动和引导 • Ubuntu下硬盘安装windows出现引导错误 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473853 参考 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=381226 这篇帖子中的方法。 完成步骤后报错0xc0000225，网上搜索的原因一般说是BCD文件错误 请问如何解决？ zz: lh1962 — 2015-11-13 19:35
[12:39] <onlylove> yunfan: 下周起要写python了，新项目是python写的
[13:50] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 马上就开 : 一群刚上飞机的乘客被工作人员请了下来,原因是飞机部件坏了,需要修理。一会儿,这个工作人员又来告诉乘客,可以登机了,飞机马上就开,乘客们奇怪的问:"修得这么快?"工作人员说:"没有修,只不过换了个敢开这架飞机的驾驶员。"
[14:15] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • 最大化最小化关闭按钮 放到右侧问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473855 我按照http://blog.chinaunix.net/uid-11829250-id-460639.html里讲的方法来做，但在gconf-editor找不到metacity，怎么办？？ zz: monoid — 2015-11-13 22:15
[14:48] <yunfan> onlylove: 不是挺好的 代码不恶心了
[14:49] <onlylove> yunfan: 其实python也有构造函数啥的
[14:49] <onlylove> yunfan: 我只是对OO的那些概念头大
[14:49] <yunfan> onlylove: 我真搞不懂 这有什么难的 虽然我不喜欢oo
[14:49] <onlylove> yunfan: 多态，泛型，继承……
[14:50] <yunfan> 但是这没难度啊
[14:50] <onlylove> 理解不了
[14:50] <yunfan> onlylove: 继承对你都有难度？？？
[14:51] <onlylove> 我只是觉得头大
[14:52] <yunfan> onlylove: 也许是你的书有问题 再说了 你要用python的话 基本不需要这些乱七八糟的概念 不过继承还是有必要了解的
[14:53] <onlylove> 不用那些概念就好……
[14:53] <yunfan> onlylove: 继承无非就是 子class也有父class的那些方法而已
[14:54] <onlylove> 不是还有个叫复合还是啥的么
[14:56] <yunfan> 多继承 继承顺序呗 还能有什么
[15:10] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 求收养
[15:10] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: 你个高富帅，闲的无聊别开我玩笑，开adam的去
[15:11] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 无业游民求
[15:11] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: 你个无业游民也比我强，我现在是有上顿没下顿，知不知道现在大家都在忙活裁员
[15:15] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 我哪里比你强了……我现在靠家里救济
[15:16] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: 你还有家里能救济不是
[15:16] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: 我现在要自己养活自己
[15:16] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 那也快到头了。过一段时间没人能救济了
[15:17] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: 在国外，留下，别回来
[15:17] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 目前很难说。。。估计留不下来，我猜是留不下来
[15:17] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: 至少不用像我这样吃霾
[15:18] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 至少……可以不用饿肚子
[15:18] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: 那就多赚欧元
[15:18] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: 你来吃几天试试！
[15:18] <alvin_rxg> 好
[15:19] <onlylove> yunfan: 我以后简历上可以写上java和python了
[15:20] <onlylove> yunfan: 可惜我不会忽悠人
[15:20] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 对哦，你现在简历上有几个语言？
[15:21] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: 一个吧，如果shell算
[15:21] <alvin_rxg> ö.ö 可能我写太多了
[15:21] <onlylove> 你写了几个，你实在不行写个rust或者commonlisp之类的，ocaml也好
[15:22] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: c/c++/obj-c/perl/php/html/css/js
[15:22] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: 你作甚的！
[15:23] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 我是学自动化的，专业跟软件没啥关系
[15:23] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: 分方向写，比方说perl php css js可以写一起，这些是web
[15:23] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: 然后c和c++写一起
[15:23] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: 你会o-c为啥不加上swift
[15:24] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: 你给不一样公司投简历，要看他们要啥样的，写web的不关心你会不会c
[15:24] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 哦，那分俩咯。 swift 现在只学了几个 keywords，还没做过啥项目，个人项目也没。毕竟我电脑不是苹果电脑，得开
[15:24] <alvin_rxg> + 得开虚拟机
[15:24] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 我不想做web前端 :-/
[15:24] <onlylove> 你买个mac 很方便的样子……
[15:25] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 国内国外买 mac 都一样方便吧？只要有钱
[15:25] <onlylove> 那就把拍黄片和CSS那些去了
[15:25] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 主力就三个， c/c++/obj-c
[15:25] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: 我感觉国外mac烂大街的样子
[15:25] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 这几天在学 java
[15:26] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 可能是因为分期付款方便？
[15:26] <onlylove> 大概？
[15:26] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 我是见过一些穷学生也拿着mac
[15:26] <onlylove> 为啥想建议你看下erlang啥的
[15:26] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 类似2w的mac，两年分期
[15:27] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: 看下python吧，号称最好学的语言
[15:27] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 要搞多并发？
[15:27] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: 哦不，只是看下函数式而已
[15:28] <alvin_rxg> >.>
[15:28] <onlylove> 据说看过函数式的，写代码的时候眼界会高一点
[15:29] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: mba低配才6000+可惜我手里的这个才4000
[15:30] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: i3系列的这么便宜？
[15:30] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: 我印象里面是的，反正不到7000
[15:30] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: 6900左右？
[15:31] <onlylove> 我手里这个是i5还可以加内存
[15:31] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 突然觉得德国好贵……
[15:31] <onlylove> 甩mba几条街
[15:32] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: http://www.apple.com/cn/shop/buy-mac/macbook-air
[15:32] <ubrl> onlylove: ⇪ 购买 MacBook Air - Apple (中国)
[15:32] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: 看11寸的，6200+ 13的6900+
[15:33] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: 苹果怎么可能用i3这种渣渣处理器……
[15:34] <onlylove> 不都是i5 i7么
[15:34] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 德国的价格相当于 8550...
[15:34] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 错了，7788
[15:34] <onlylove> ……
[15:34] <alvin_rxg> 7788那个相当于德国的 8500价格
[15:34] <onlylove> 这么贵
[15:35] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 都贵了至少 500块钱
[15:36] <onlylove> 这些价格都是含税的
[15:36] <onlylove> 怎么国外还贵呢
[15:36] <onlylove> 难道是汇率？
[15:37] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 都含税。德国本来就是啥电子产品都稍微贵点。据说香港最便宜
[15:38] <onlylove> 不对，德国是欧版
[15:38] <onlylove> 国内是国行
[15:39] <onlylove> 不过就电脑的换代速度……那点差距貌似……
[15:40] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 按我的需求，得买 mbp 13寸，256GB
[15:40] <onlylove> 如果没移动需求，可以考虑mac mini或者imac
[15:42] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: mpb 13", 256GB 要 11000...
[15:43] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: 所以mac就是抢钱的主
[15:43] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 而且 mac mini 不划算
[15:44] <onlylove> 只是要OSX的环境……
[15:45] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 要么 mbp，要么 hackintosh
[15:45] <alvin_rxg> :-/
[15:45] <tedlz123> 话说宅男为什么费纸，宅女为什么费电？
[15:45] <onlylove> 其实水果的系统用起来真心一般
[15:48] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 就我是跟 linux 一样用。
[15:49] <tedlz123> 水果其实不如Ubuntu好用哦。
[15:50] <onlylove> 拉倒吧，水果的UI稳定性甩Ubuntu不知道几条街
[15:52] <alvin_rxg> onlylove: 还好吧，别用它那套，就 mate 啥的，都还行
[15:53] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: 不行，gnome2的时候就不行
[15:53] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: suse redhat debian甩它老远
[15:54] <alvin_rxg> 呃……
[15:57] <tedlz123> 话说Ubuntu 16.04用的图形服务器是Mir，比X更稳定哦。
[15:58] <alvin_rxg> 哦~
[16:00] <onlylove> ubuntu搞出来的东西就没见好用的，说mir比X稳定，先让我折腾两个月再说
[16:00] <onlylove> 就看unity就知道
[16:13] <onlylove> 睡觉去
[16:14] <xiaolu> ÂÒÂë
[16:20] <xiaolu> ²âÊÔ
[16:59] <tedlz123> 不过我想苹果一定不支持这种高科技的玩法： http://www.ch-linghu.me/blog/entry/313
[16:59] <ubrl> ⇪ t: 拿Ubuntu当XServer显示远程机器的窗口 - 令狐虫的无聊空间
[17:56] <alvin_rxg> tedlz123: 支持
[17:57] <alvin_rxg> tedlz123: remote desktop, linux 有，windows有，mac有
[19:33] <gebjgd> tedlz123, 必须支持
[19:48] <gebjgd> tedlz123, alvin_rxg 最好的软件我觉得是Synergy
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[18:59] <Ridgewing> Review of Google's Android 6.0 flagship: Nexus 6P , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc5fFvp8le4
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[04:00] <pitti> teward: no, in general package hooks are being run
[04:00] <pitti> teward: they might cause an exception of course, and then will be ignored
[07:09] <pitti> mdeslaur: hm, you changed the pythons to rely on the new value of the -proposed openssl, not to work with either
[07:09] <pitti> but no bump of dependencies, so they block each other in -proposed now
[07:11] * pitti re-runs the two proposed versions against each other
[08:36] <darkxst> pitti, your piloting today? can you take a look at bug 1509946, i can't upload since its a new source package with the gdm3 rename
[08:37] <pitti> darkxst: oh, am I? indeed
[08:38] <darkxst> pitti, that is what the calender says!
[08:39] <pitti> darkxst: I'll have a look soon then
[08:40] <darkxst> pitti, thanks
[08:54] <pitti> @pilot in
[08:56] <elbrus> pitti: do you now if the locale settings are different on the different autopkgtest machines for different archs?
[08:57] <elbrus> we propably found an issue with locales, postgresql and dbconfig-common
[08:57] <pitti> elbrus: autopkgtest always sets C.UTF-8 for the tests
[08:57] <elbrus> LC_ALL I assume?
[08:57] <pitti> elbrus: sorry, I didn't have time to look into the armhf failure yet, but still on my list
[08:57] <pitti> elbrus: no, LANG=C.UTF-8 and it unsets all LC_*
[08:57] <elbrus> doesn't look like regression.. this probably never works under the same circumstances
[08:58] <pitti> and unsets $LANGUAGE too
[08:58] <elbrus> where does the en_US come from then?
[08:58] <elbrus> pitti: and "LC_CTYPE setting requires encoding "LATIN1""
[08:59] * elbrus doesn't know all the details of locales
[08:59] <pitti> en_US> no idea right now; but I don't see LATIN1 anywhere in https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-xenial/xenial/armhf/d/dbconfig-common/20151111_152940@/log.gz
[08:59] <pitti> oh, that's the "hostname: Temporary failure in name resolution" bit
[09:00] <elbrus> pitti: it was the next log that failed on locale, this one failed on hostname not found
[09:00] <pitti> https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-xenial/xenial/armhf/d/dbconfig-common/20151111_084807@/log.gz
[09:00] <pitti> right
[09:00] <elbrus> https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-xenial/xenial/armhf/d/dbconfig-common/20151111_084807@/log.gz
[09:00] <elbrus> yes
[09:13] <elbrus> pitti: I think postgresql is installed with the wrong locale, but why only on armhf? i.e. why doesn't this happen on all archs the same?
[09:13] <elbrus> and yes, for utf-8 to work the locale should have been en_US.UTF-8
[09:14] <elbrus> during INSTALL of postgresql, so out of control of dbconfig-common
[09:14] <pitti> elbrus: the biggest difference between armhf and the other arches is that we run armhf tests in LXC containers, the others in full (QEMU) instances in the cloud
[09:14] <pitti> so far I don't know where the en_US comes from, it's neither from dbconfig-common nor postgresql-common
[09:16] <elbrus> indeed
[09:18] <elbrus> pitti: do you think there is anything that I can do at this moment?
[09:19] <pitti> currently running this locally with lxc
[09:19] <elbrus> ack
[09:19] <pitti> to see if it reproduces there
[09:19] <pitti> (i. e. on amd64)
[09:19] <elbrus> aha, to check if it is lxc thingy
[09:19] <elbrus> my lxc's work fine
[09:20] <pitti> first run failed becuse it interactively asked for some host name
[09:20] <elbrus> (I did all my testing creating the autopkgtest in a lxc)
[09:20] <pitti> now running with < /dev/null to quiesce that
[09:20] <elbrus> but I didn't do anything specific to the locales
[09:21] <elbrus> so I got the Debian default
[09:21] <pitti> might that be some default value of "locales" on installation if you don't specify anything?
[09:22] <elbrus> you mean in postgresql? it takes it from the system, yes (reading on internet)
[09:23] <elbrus> specifically LC_CTYPE
[09:23] <pitti> passes here
[09:23] <pitti> so, this needs to be investigated on the armhf machiens
[09:24] <elbrus> and LC_COLLATE
[09:24] <pitti> ah, maybe debootstrap defaults to en_US; adt-run sets LANG=C.UTF-8 into the test env, but it doesn't change /etc/default/locale
[09:25] <pitti> but then this should apply to amd64 containers too
[09:25] <pitti> really, need to find some time to look into this
[09:25] <elbrus> does it makes sense to mark armhf as failed_always then for now? This is a new autopkgtest that fails.
[09:26] <pitti> I can't specifically mark armhf, but I can mark the test as broken for now
[09:26] <elbrus> the previous one on willy was only one test, I now have three
[09:27] <elbrus> ouch
[09:28] * elbrus wonders how many dbconfig-common based packages are actively setting the encoding (and thus may be buggy in this sense)
[09:36] <pitti> elbrus: the production boxes have
[09:36] <pitti> # cat adt-xenial/rootfs/etc/default/locale
[09:36] <pitti> # File generated by update-locale
[09:36] <pitti> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[09:36] <pitti> elbrus: while my local container has LANG=de_DE.UTF-8; apparently it takes that from the environment you create the container in
[09:37] <pitti> so if anything, it ought to work *worse* in my local one..
[09:37] <elbrus> yes, but it is utf-8
[09:37] <pitti> but I don't see en_US anywhere; and that's latin1, and just ought to die, die, die
[09:37] <elbrus> so that's fine.
[09:37] <elbrus> also not on the system that created the lxc?
[09:38] <pitti> no, that's en_US.UTF-8 too
[09:38] <pitti> elbrus: we never supported/created non-UTF-8 locales in ubuntu (aside from C)
[09:39] <pitti> so, where on earth does that come from
[09:41] * elbrus has to go for a while...
[10:05] <LocutusOfBorg1> pitti, why llvm-3.7 doesn't migrate? the previous one didn't build on i386 and powerpc too
[10:06] <seb128> LocutusOfBorg1, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html
[10:07] <seb128> LocutusOfBorg1, I think it was in binNEW
[10:07] <seb128> unsure when the binaries got NEWEd and if britney refreshed since
[10:07] <pitti> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#llvm-toolchain-3.7 in particular
[10:07] <pitti> right, NEW is empty now, so perhaps someone just did that
[10:08] <rbasak> So I'm working on merging monitoring-plugins, and the Debian maintainer would prefer to take patches and not have us maintain a delta in Ubuntu. But we need to drop a build dep in Ubuntu because it's in universe.
[10:09] <rbasak> Am I right in thinking that there's no way to do this conditionally based on dpkg-vendor, since it's a build dep?
[10:09] <LocutusOfBorg1> thanks
[10:10] <Unit193> rbasak: Unless there's something new, correct.
[10:11] <rbasak> Unit193: thanks.
[10:14] <seb128> wooot pitti piloting
[10:15] <seb128> there goes the remaining for the queue! ;-)
[10:15] * seb128 donne une accolade à pitti
[10:15] * pitti te donne une accolade en retour
[10:32] * dholbach hugs pitti
[10:32] * pitti hugs dholback
[10:32] <Unit193> dhugbach
[10:36] <dholbach> :-)
[10:50] <LocutusOfBorg1> wow, how many merges done in a few minutes
[10:57] <seb128> pitti, unsure how much of the queue you are going to cover but you might want to look at bug #525674 you already reviewed/commented on it in a previous round
[11:00] <pitti> meh @ bug 1498370
[11:00] <pitti> this is a sponsor's waste of time
[11:02] <pitti> seb128: looking
[11:02] <seb128> pitti, danke
[11:22] <pitti> seb128: meh, u-n is currently FTBFS
[11:23] <pitti> Err http://localhost:59762/canary-file.txt
[11:23] <pitti> 403 Forbidden file type or location: http://localhost:59762/canary-file.txt
[11:23] <pitti> E: Failed to fetch http://localhost:59762/canary-file.txt 403 Forbidden file type or location: http://localhost:59762/canary-file.txt
[11:23] <pitti> what on earth should that be
[11:23] <seb128> bah :-/
[11:24] <Laney> mvooooooooooooooooo
[11:26] <pitti> ah, it trips over my proxy setting in the shroot
[11:27] <pitti> disabling it helps
[11:33] <pitti> seb128: there goes the remaining for the queue> can't -- I dealt with some 15 items in the queue, but it grows so far
[11:33] <pitti> fast
[11:33] <pitti> I started with 48, it's still at 43..
[11:34] <pitti> ok, and at least 4 just lag due to build/proposed-migration
[11:35] <seb128> pitti, sorry, I added some :-/
[11:35] <doko> somebody just unblocked the ocaml/giflib/whatever transition. ta!
[11:35] <seb128> I do review +patches sometimes
[11:35] <seb128> doko, beers go to Laney I think
[11:35] <seb128> though I pressed some buttons so I wouldn't say no to a pint as well :p
[11:36] <doko> seb128, next sprint or Debconf ;p
[11:36] <seb128> deal :-)
[11:36] <Laney> was a good team effort
[11:36] <Laney> sil2100: slangasek: seb128: good work
[11:36] <Laney> woah, you all start with s
[11:37] <seb128> hehe
[11:37] <seb128> indeed was a good team effort
[11:37] <sil2100> \o/
[11:44] * sil2100 just got spammed with no-change rebuild migration e-mail
[11:57] <mdeslaur> pitti: huh? It should work with either
[14:16] <cjwatson> stgraber,hallyn_: did lxc break in xenial recently? http://paste.ubuntu.com/13247579/
[14:16] <cjwatson> (repeatable: I can't start any of my containers at the moment)
[14:17] <cjwatson> upgraded to lxc 1.1.5-0ubuntu1 last night, I expect it relates to that
[14:17] <pitti> wily and xenial containers start fine here, I don't have a trusty one at hand
[14:17] <pitti> (same lxc version)
[14:17] <pitti> oh, I do have trusty containers as user container, not system one; that works too
[14:18] <cjwatson> same with precise containers
[14:18] <cjwatson> I don't have any containers newer than trusty ;-)
[14:18] <pitti> cjwatson: we clearly work on different things :)
[14:19] <cjwatson> I've also just rebooted, that made no difference
[14:25] <cjwatson> pitti: are you running a wily/xenial kernel?
[14:25] <cjwatson> clone(child_stack=0x7ffde67d2280, flags=CLONE_NEWNS|CLONE_NEWUTS|CLONE_NEWIPC|CLONE_NEWPID|CLONE_NEWNET|SIGCHLD) = 6324
[14:25] <cjwatson> certainly seems odd ...
[14:25] <pitti> cjwatson: xenial du jour
[14:25] <cjwatson> access("/proc/6324/ns", X_OK) = 0
[14:25] <cjwatson> open("/proc/6324/ns/mnt", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[14:25] <pitti> 4.2.0-17-generic
[14:25] <cjwatson> ditto
[14:25] <pitti> cjwatson: is your's a system or user container?
[14:26] <pitti> I tried trusty/user (unpriv) and {wily,xenial}/system, not yet trusty/system
[14:26] <cjwatson> system
[14:26] <pitti> lxd also works, but that's more like user containers
[14:26] <cjwatson> I'm sure I probably should migrate to user containers for a bunch of things, but haven't yet
[14:26] * pitti runs $ sudo lxc-create -n trusty1 -t download -- -d ubuntu -r trusty -a amd64
[14:27] <pitti> boots fine
[14:29] <cjwatson> pitti: same thing for me after "sudo lxc-create -n trusty-test -t ubuntu -- -r trusty"
[14:29] <cjwatson> it doesn't really seem to be about the container contents though, given that strace fragment
[14:30] <pitti> cjwatson: do you get an AA violation in dmesg?
[14:30] <pitti> $ LANG= cat /proc/$$/ns/mnt
[14:31] <pitti> cat: /proc/3924/ns/mnt: Invalid argument
[14:31] <pitti> hm, that's a bit odd, but not EACCESS
[14:31] <cjwatson> strace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13247663/
[14:32] <cjwatson> pitti: no
[14:32] <pitti> 1961 access("/proc/1974/ns", X_OK) = 0
[14:32] <pitti> 1961 open("/proc/1974/ns/mnt", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 15
[14:32] <pitti> 1961 open("/proc/1974/ns/pid", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 16
[14:32] <pitti> 1961 open("/proc/1974/ns/uts", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 17
[14:32] <pitti> 1961 open("/proc/1974/ns/ipc", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 18
[14:32] <pitti> 1961 open("/proc/1974/ns/net", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 19
[14:32] <pitti> here
[14:33] <pitti> stgraber: please fix the strcmp(pw->pw_nam, "cjwatson")
[14:34] <cjwatson> let's try downgrading lxc
[14:36] <cjwatson> starts fine with lxc 1.1.4-0ubuntu3
[14:39] * cjwatson files https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/+bug/1516037
[15:33] <hallyn_> cjwatson: very odd. grabbing the 1.1.4-0ubuntu3 source to looka t debdiff...
[15:53] <stgraber> hallyn_: hmm, why did preserve_ns kick in here
[15:58] <stgraber> hallyn_: FYI, that's 1.1.4 to 1.1.5: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13248147/
[15:58] <stgraber> 8cecbd386123dfcb291b96b23a38fb9d74d2ea3b preserve container namespace
[15:58] <stgraber> 5b657f6bfee3d6b238a37ad2f3dcac37a224a333 start.c:preserve_ns: added pid parameter
[15:58] <stgraber> hallyn_: those are the most likely candidate ^
[16:10] <hallyn_> stgraber: wondering whether getpid() is returning invalid number
[16:12] <stgraber> hallyn_: the thing is, I'm not seeing the getpid which returned 7170 in cjwatson's strace but 7170 is the pid of one of our sub-processes
[16:12] <stgraber> hallyn_: what doesn't make sense is that my reading of the code is that getpid and preserve_ns are happening in the same process, so I don't understand why getpid would have happened in 7170 and then preserve_ns in 7160
[16:13] <stgraber> hallyn_: not that any of this really explains everything, we're talking privileged container here, lxc-start is root, so permission denied shouldn't be possible...
[16:13] <stgraber> hallyn_: getting no such file or directory would indicate an invalid pid but here the process does seem to exist
[16:14] <stgraber> Anyway, I'm updating my laptop, will then reboot and see if I've got any luck at reproducing this. Also asked a few more question for cjwatson in the bug report.
[16:25] <pitti> @pilot out
[16:26] <stgraber> hallyn_: oh, nevermind that part, the failing preserve_ns is the second one, which uses handler->pid
[16:27] <hallyn_> hm
[16:27] <stgraber> hallyn_: at this point, I think we'd need to go dig in the kernel to figure out in what case can we get EACCES as root
[16:28] <stgraber> hallyn_: because AFAICT, lxc_clone succeeds, we get a valid pid back, then we attempt to open ns/mnt and get EACCES, so the process does exist, we are root and we can't open ns/mnt
[16:28] <hallyn_> stgraber: but pitti said itworked for him on xenial
[16:29] <hallyn_> so it's even more weird, whatever's going on
[16:29] <stgraber> hallyn_: yep, and so does it here :)
[16:29] <stgraber> and in autopkgtest and in upstream jenkins
[16:30] <stgraber> hallyn_: also what's odd is that it's the open that's failing. Usually we see errors at setns instead :)
[16:33] * hallyn_ thinks ptrace is involved somehow,
[16:34] <hallyn_> yama
[16:34] <stgraber> hallyn_: something else which doesn't make sense is that looking at the code, we call preserve_ns twice but the strace from cjwatson only shows the second
[16:35] <stgraber> oh, no, nevermind, I'm blind
[16:35] <stgraber> was grepping for /ns/ which didn't get me the first access with just /proc/7160/ns
[16:36] <stgraber> hallyn_: and yeah, that's very much smells like a LSM messing with things but dmesg is clean...
[16:37] <cjwatson> I can get a full dmesg if you need it, but the relevant bits were basically just witter about network interfaces coming up and down
[16:38] <stgraber> If there was a denial, you'd have seen it. Unfortunately, LSMs don't have to log.
[16:40] <stgraber> cjwatson: just to confirm it's not some apparmor weirdness, could you unload all profile (sudo /etc/init.d/apparmor teardown) and try again?
[16:40] <cjwatson> just a minute while I stop containers
[16:41] <stgraber> it sure looks like something wrong's going on in the kernel here but I have no idea why it's apparently only hitting your system :)
[16:41] <cjwatson> stgraber: what's the restoration process after teardown? reboot?
[16:42] <stgraber> cjwatson: /etc/init.d/apparmor start will reload all the profiles but won't apply them to running processes, for that you'd need to restart the various services, or indeed, reboot
[16:43] <cjwatson> stgraber: well, you're right, tearing down apparmor lets the container start
[16:43] <stgraber> oh, that's interesting
[16:44] <stgraber> cjwatson: can you try starting apparmor again and confirm that things fail again?
[16:44] <stgraber> for lxc specifically, no reboot should be required, just start apparmor and start the container again
[16:44] <hallyn_> any chance you customized your usr.bin.lxc-start profile at some point?
[16:44] <cjwatson> stgraber: it still works
[16:45] <hallyn_> !
[16:45] <cjwatson> hallyn_: it is not impossible
[16:45] <stgraber> well, I didn't expect that one :)
[16:45] <cjwatson> /etc/apparmor.d/local/usr.bin.lxc-start has nothing
[16:45] <hallyn_> do you have dpkg-backup copy of /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/lxc/start-container by chance?
[16:46] <cjwatson> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13248531/
[16:46] <hallyn_> (which doesn't contain "ptrace,")
[16:46] <cjwatson> no .dpkg-foo files for that
[16:46] <stgraber> ok, let me grab the magic apparmor command that dumps things in a way we can diff
[16:47] <stgraber> not that any of this really makes sense because if it's a subtile profile difference, starting apparmor would have caused the issue to re-appear
[16:48] <stgraber> root@castiana:~# apparmor_parser -p /etc/apparmor.d/lxc-containers /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.lxc-start | md5sum
[16:48] <stgraber> cd7c4c6466b21dc77bea45660674c933 -
[16:48] <stgraber> that's on clean xenial (reproducible) ^
[16:48] <cjwatson> 8e3943455937a5a09eccfa742d8c58c1 -
[16:48] <stgraber> oh
[16:49] <stgraber> can you dump the output somewhere?
[16:49] <cjwatson> it won't have anything private, right?
[16:49] <cjwatson> doesn't especially look like it
[16:49] <stgraber> correct, it's just the expanded version of the lxc profile
[16:49] <cjwatson> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13248559/
[16:51] <stgraber> -/usr/bin/lxc-start flags=(attach_disconnected) {
[16:51] <stgraber> +/usr/bin/lxc-start {
[16:52] <stgraber> and some different ordering (not as reproducible as it looks, then), but the above could very well explain what you're seeing
[16:53] * stgraber applies same change as cjwatson's usr.bin.lxc-start and reboots
[16:55] <stgraber> reminds me I need to talk to pitti about my laptop not shutting down properly (have to wait the 1m30 timeout for systemd to give up and force reboot)
[16:55] <stgraber> lxc-start: start.c: preserve_ns: 156 Permission denied - failed to open '/proc/1937/ns/mnt'
[16:56] <stgraber> cjwatson: bingo, that's the issue!
[16:56] <stgraber> cjwatson: so restore your /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.lxc-start to what we ship in our package and you should be fine. (clean content is http://paste.ubuntu.com/13248615/)
[16:58] <hallyn_> stgraber: i accept that that's what did it, but it doesn't really make sense. /proc/pid/ns/mnt should not have been disconnected!
[16:58] <hallyn_> unless apparmor treats all the ns fds as disconnected
[16:58] <hallyn_> since the fs isn't mounted anywhere
[16:58] <hallyn_> 'fs'
[16:59] <hallyn_> jjohansen: ^ do you know whether that's the case?
[16:59] <cjwatson> no idea how that happened - I might have modified that in the distant past
[16:59] <stgraber> also, it's kinda annoying that "/etc/init.d/apparmor reload" no longer works in xenial, triggers some systemd thing which fails...
[16:59] * stgraber reboots again
[17:00] <stgraber> the upside is, lxc in xenial actually works so I can get back to preparing my current upload and don't have to wait for us to bundle another bugfix in there :)
[17:02] <stgraber> cjwatson: can you confirm that restoring the profile to its default value and rebooting (unless you find a way to avoid the systemd issue and call reload) fixes things for you?
[17:02] <cjwatson> stgraber: confirmed, thanks
[17:02] <stgraber> cjwatson: great, closing the bug then
[17:02] <cjwatson> I removed the file and used dpkg -i --force-confmiss
[17:03] <stgraber> ah yeah, that'd trigger our postinst which does a straight apparmor_parser call :)
[17:05] <cjwatson> well, I rebooted too :)
[17:05] <cjwatson> thanks for the debugging help, that was pretty opaque to me
[17:07] <hallyn_> stgraber: well there is https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1516008 but it's clearly a kernel (likely aa) regression (regarding xenial lxc bugs :)
[17:09] <stgraber> hallyn_: no, it's not
[17:09] <stgraber> hallyn_: it's just the cloud-image stream being broken, has been for days
[17:10] <stgraber> hallyn_: see, it's downloading xenial-server-cloudimg-amd64-lxd.tar.xz instead of xenial-server-cloudimg-amd64-root.tar.xz
[17:10] <hallyn_> doh. i looked for that in the report but missed that failure
[17:10] <hallyn_> just saw the missing /etc/localtime or whatever
[17:10] <stgraber> so it's an "expected" failure until Odd_Bloke, utlemming, gaughen, rcj ... fix the daily stream
[17:11] <stgraber> apw: ^ FYI, I'll be closing your bug report against lxc as invalid, the problem is a broken simplestream which I've mentioned to the CPC team a week ago and hasn't been fixed yet
[17:12] <stgraber> I'm just failing to understand why adding 20 lines of json is taking so long though
[17:13] <apw> stgraber, or reassign it to simplestreams, and then i will whine at them instead ;)
[17:13] <stgraber> apw: IIRC the CPC stuff is a private project, not sure how to re-assign to it.
[17:13] <apw> isn't simpletreams a thing in the archive, its not quite right, but
[17:13] <stgraber> apw: hopefully the highlight in here will be enough to get things moving, it's been breaking all our tests for a while now
[17:14] <stgraber> apw: the client is, yeah, the server isn't
[17:53] <Laney> cjwatson: I got an action item to ask you if ssh-askpass-gnome is still needed (it's seeded on desktop)
[17:54] <cjwatson> Laney: I guess that depends on whether a system without it does something sensible when it needs to ask for a password
[17:54] <cjwatson> I suppose it goes through the horrible seahorse agent nowadays?
[17:55] <cjwatson> which e.g. doesn't support modern key formats
[17:56] <cjwatson> so ... I don't think it's needed in the absolute default configuration, it just might be worth bearing in mind that users with not very unusual requirements might have needed to switch to openssh's agent and then it's needed. but maybe that's not a strong enough reason to have a GTK2 thing in desktop
[17:58] <Unit193> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754028 not bad progress though.
[18:03] <Laney> Doesn't seem to be much on the g-k side
[18:04] <Laney> anyway, thanks for info - got to go but I'll look at bit next week
[18:04] <Laney> bye!
[18:04] <cjwatson> Laney: I could probably port ssh-askpass-gnome to GTK3 without too much trouble if that would help
[18:18] <chiluk> hey arges.. what would need to happen in order to get an upstream version of findutils into xenial?
[18:19] <chiluk> basically the versino we have right now is cerca 2009
[18:20] <Unit193> chiluk: There's one in experimental.
[18:35] <arges> chiluk: maybe we need to sync that version cvhecking
[18:36] <richmb> infinity: I was asking questions about the ubuntu core minimal rootfs in #snappy, orga referred me to you. The Wiki page seems like it hasn't been updated in a while, but the releases have. Is this going to be supported/updated in future releases?
[18:37] <tdaitx> pitti, I just saw LP: #1497420, while unrelated, I have been unable to lxc-attach into a Xenial container from my Wily host... http://paste.ubuntu.com/13249491/
[18:38] <arges> chiluk: $ requestsync findutils
[18:38] <arges> W: Target release missing - assuming xenial
[18:38] <arges> E: The versions in Debian and Ubuntu are the same already (4.4.2-10). Aborting.
[18:39] <tdaitx> pitti, attaching to precise, trusty, vivid, and wily containers works fine... besides it being a Xenial container the only difference is that it was created just now (the other containers have been around for a while)
[18:39] <arges> chiluk: 4.5.x is still an alpha version, maybe that's why it hasn't hit sid
[18:40] <infinity> richmb: Yeah, it continues to be updated. As for "supported", there's not much to support. It's a very minimal rootfs that pretty much does what it says on the tin.
[18:41] <richmb> infinity: we like it because it was very easy to port to various arm targets. But we just wanted to make sure that future ubuntu releases would still be available before we chose to use it on a bunch of our products.
[18:42] <infinity> richmb: It's not going away any time soon. It's also a handy and quick infrastructure test case. ;)
[18:45] <chiluk> hmm thanks arges.
[18:48] <chiluk> well that's really ugly. arges Unit193 .. how did you determine that 4.5.x is still an alpha version?
[18:49] <chiluk> or is it just debian alpha.
[18:49] <Unit193> chiluk: I just mentioned it was in EXP, didn't look into it. :)
[18:50] <chiluk> I'm looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/findutils/+bug/1347788
[18:50] <chiluk> and it seems to have been resolved in upstream.
[18:50] <chiluk> let me check version
[18:50] <arges> i just found the source here: ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/findutils
[18:50] <arges> instead of at the normal ftp site
[18:51] <chiluk> hmm that's odd.
[18:51] <chiluk> well the fix we need for 1347788 is in 4.5.9
[18:52] <chiluk> and a backport is proving as bad if not worse than the recent coreutils backport I pained through.
[18:54] <richmb> infinity: How is ubuntu core related to ubuntu server and desktop. Is it used to build them? or extracted from them?
[18:55] <chiluk> richmb: extracted from them afaik
[18:57] <infinity> Neither, really.
[18:58] <infinity> It's a separate build that just has a minimal set of packages and (as you've no doubt discovered, if you use it) no installer or initial setup.
[18:59] <mvo> infinity: https://launchpad.net/~mvo/+archive/ubuntu/apt-xenial will soon have some stuff, preparing the abi change merge
[19:00] <Unit193> Speaking of which...
[19:00] <infinity> mvo: ABI change? Is that 1.1?
[19:00] <infinity> mvo: If it's 1.1, you're my favourite mvo in the whole world.
[19:02] <bdmurray> mvo: no phasing support?
[19:02] <infinity> I'm still dubious of phasing in apt proper.
[19:03] <infinity> I guess it would need to be an apt.conf tunable, defaulting to off, and we'd drop a conffile in.
[19:03] <infinity> Or something.
[19:03] <infinity> Definitely needs to be overridable.
[19:06] <richmb> infinity: Any reason why Ubuntu core would not be a suitable long term base rootfs for a industrial product?
[19:07] <infinity> richmb: IMO, it's fine for that use (and one of the reasons we produced it), though if you're swayed by the idea of transaction/image updates instead of apt-get, snappy's worth a look.
[19:07] <infinity> richmb: Right tool for the job, etc. I'm not in the business of forcing decisions on others, evaluate what you need and go nuts.
[19:08] <richmb> infinity: we did like snappy, but had troubles porting it.
[19:12] <infinity> richmb: Well, if snappy's attractive, but giving you issues, ogra's team are the people to talk to. But I won't recommend against classic ubuntu-core either, it gets the job done, just differently.
[19:13] <infinity> richmb: The key difference is just how you design your update strategy, since shipping 100k units of a network-connected product with no plan for how you're going to address, say, security issues or critical bugs, is generally unwise. But that problem exists for both snappy and classic core, just that the solutions differ.
[19:15] <infinity> richmb: On the flip side, if it's a more classic pure embedded sort of device with no contact with the outside world, updates become a think no one really cares about, and your flexibility for how you construct it goes up a bit.
[19:15] <infinity> s/a think/a thing/
[19:16] <richmb> infinity: we're more so in the embedded bucket. non-internet connected product
[19:19] <richmb> infinity: thanks a bunch. I have a better feel for ubuntu core's future. I'll ask about our snappy porting issues in #snappy.
[19:19] <infinity> richmb: Yeah, then update stories are slightly less interesting. You still need a way to get "our product sucks, here's an update" fixes out to users, but you don't need to worry about 0-day root exploits or anything.
[19:20] <infinity> Or, if you're confident in your QA, you don't even necessarily need the "we suck" updates. Depends on your process, of course. :P
[19:24] <richmb> we still want ability to update various os/kernel packages. just for the sake of easier sharing code between new and old products.
[19:53] <mvo> infinity: hm, hm, looks like the new apt does not like the ppa chroots https://launchpadlibrarian.net/226517672/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.python-apt_1.1.0~alpha3ubuntu1~ppa1_BUILDING.txt.gz I will need to do some digging
[21:24] <popey> pitti, got my apport / caja crash loop thing again, but I guess you're not around :)
[21:25] <popey> Ooh! I think I know what it is, dropbox!
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2015-11-13-#ubuntu-ops
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[20:06] <bazhang> fix my bmw! I use ubuntu
[20:25] <bazhang> utf-8 = stranger danger
[20:26] <genii> Seems so :)
I'm using 16.04
[21:20] <bazhang> apt-get install toolchain
[21:20] <genii> Hm
[21:21] <bazhang> !xevious
[21:21] <bazhang> what!
[21:22] <Unit193> !xenial, dimwit! :---D
[21:22] <bazhang> some of the emacs hackeration must have borked the bot
[21:23] <bazhang> @random emacs emacs vim emacs
[21:23] <bazhang> hahahaha
[21:24] <bazhang> if you lost the bot, you've lost the war
[21:27] <Unit193> bazhang: Which bot? ubottu or Drone`?
[21:27] <genii> ... either
[21:28] <bazhang> Unit193, it's a paraphrase of 'if you lost walter cronkite..etc etc'
[21:29] <Unit193> Sure, just had to go with it though!
[21:29] <bazhang> chu wont like those results!
[21:49] <genii> k1l_: Beat me to it
[21:49] <bazhang> [nemdiggers] #ubuntu
[21:49] <bazhang> no way thats a troll
[21:49] <Unit193> [16:49:23] There is no such nick nemdiggers
[21:49] <Unit193> Huh.
[21:50] <k1l_> had told him in pm and "is there a rule against it?" was his answer
[21:51] <genii> It's either the same guy or same crew that do this a lot, offensive racist names or slurs with some of the letters reversed. Been going on for a while now, they already know better
[21:51] <Unit193> Yes, we have a rule requiring common sense, you broke it: http://i.imgur.com/VwNkNyW.jpg
[21:52] <k1l_> yeah, i suspect it the same troll as the other ones with racists nicks with some twisted letters
[23:44] <popey> uh
[23:46] <k1l_> have set +r for #u
[23:46] <Pricey> bots?
[23:46] <k1l_> yep
[23:47] <Unit193> Drone` would have done it too soon.
[23:49] <k1l_> good bot
[23:50] <k1l_> what is drone running as software?
[23:50] <Unit193> I can't parse that.
[23:51] <k1l_> erm. ubottu is a supybot. what is drone? or did you hack that yourself?
[23:51] <Unit193> Limnoria+ChanTracker+ChanReg.
[23:52] <k1l_> ah ok. thanks
[23:56] <k1l_> set -r again since its quiet support wise now anyway
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2015-11-13-#ubuntu-us-oh
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[06:05] <yano> http://www.wtol.com/story/30506557/study-names-toledo-ohios-drunkest-city
[06:05] <jenni> [ Study names Toledo Ohio's drunkest city - Toledo News Now, News, Weather, Sports, Toledo, OH ] - https://j.mp/1SMSXEW
[21:00] <Unit193> jrgifford, belkinsa: Checked email recently?
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2015-11-13-#launchpad
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[00:01] <tsimonq2> wgrant: ok, this is starting to frustrate me, could you maybe tell me the usage of https://launchpad.net/+apidoc/1.0.html#source_package_publishing_history please? Maybe I will finally understand it.
[00:01] <wgrant> tsimonq2: The usage?
[00:02] <tsimonq2> wgrant: yes, in python
[00:02] <wgrant> It's an object.
[00:03] <wgrant> You can't just "use" an object, you need to do something with it.
[00:03] <sarnold> ".. and its end-of-life date is April 2015 .." hehe :)
[00:03] <tsimonq2> sarnold: but then how do I update the python module to devel?
[00:04] <wgrant> The client requires no updates.
[00:04] <wgrant> You just pass a different version when you construct the Launchpad object.
[00:04] <tsimonq2> ok, how?
[00:05] <tsimonq2> (sorry for asking all of these questions, there is just a large lack of documentation, and if not, it is hard to find)
[00:05] <tsimonq2> wgrant, sarnold: how would I accomplish what I want to accomplish?
[00:06] <blr> tsimonq2: reasonably certain that is documented in the launchpadlib getting started section
[00:06] <tsimonq2> blr: where is that? :P
[00:06] <sarnold> tsimonq2: there's a bunch of examples here, this might be useful? https://help.launchpad.net/API/Examples
[00:06] <blr> the link wgrant provided earlier
[00:08] <tsimonq2> sarnold: nope, as you see above, all I want to know how to do is to call source_package_publishing_history at this point
[00:10] <sarnold> tsimonq2: it just seemed likely that there'd be a similar API being used on the examples page; it covers a lot of ground, afterall.
[00:11] <wgrant> tsimonq2: source_package_publishing_history is an API object. You can't just "call" it.
[00:11] <wgrant> You can retrieve it, and then you can do things with it.
[00:11] <tsimonq2> well how?
[00:11] <wgrant> Call methods on it, read its attributes, etc.
[00:12] * tsimonq2 throws his hands up
[00:12] <wgrant> In [2]: [spph.source_package_name for spph in lp.distributions['ubuntu'].main_archive.getPublishedSources(order_by_date=True)[:5]]
[00:12] <wgrant> Out[2]: [u'gnome-documents', u'nfstrace', u'iagno', u'ebook2cw', u'grub2-signed']
[00:13] <tsimonq2> ok, for the future, I feel terrible that I don't know a good portion of this terminology. Is there any sort of thing that I should read to help me to just be able to read the docs and go from there?
[00:14] <tsimonq2> (the docs as in https://launchpad.net/+apidoc/devel)
[00:15] <wgrant> Have you read up on REST APIs in general?
[00:15] <wgrant> The concepts in Launchpad's API are all pretty standard.
[00:15] <tsimonq2> hmm
[00:15] <tsimonq2> I should do that
[00:15] <tsimonq2> wgrant: THANK YOU for FINALLY giving me that information
[00:48] <cjwatson> I think people have generally found https://help.launchpad.net/API/launchpadlib pretty useful as well.
[00:48] <cjwatson> (as William said earlier)
[01:38] <tsimonq2> I figured out how to do this, thank you wgrant, cjwatson, blr, sarnold
[01:38] <sarnold> nice :)
[01:38] <tsimonq2> well, I have the code I need
[01:38] <tsimonq2> time to whip up the result
[01:39] <tsimonq2> actually, I got approval from the Lubuntu team, and this will be a bot that resides in #lubuntu-devel
[01:40] <tsimonq2> well, gotta go, I will hack on it a bunch and maybe let you guys know when the final result is implemented
[01:40] <tsimonq2> thanks :)
[01:40] <sarnold> have fun!
[09:38] <Laney> Is getting in ~ubuntu-release-nominators still the "right" way for non uploaders to be able to approve bug nominations for Ubuntu?
[18:09] <keepguessing> I am failing to sign the code of conduct. http://paste.ubuntu.com/13249314/
[18:09] <keepguessing> This is the first time I am doing it. and may have missed some steps.
[18:09] <keepguessing> from the logs I see I create a secret key. I am not sure what that means. could anyone suggest?
[18:12] <sarnold> do you already have a gpg key created?
[18:17] <keepguessing> sarnold: no. I am in a container. I am not sure how to create a gpg key.
[18:18] <keepguessing> sarnold: I am finding out how to generate one via google. I will get back if it continues to fail.
[18:20] <sarnold> keepguessing: your gpg key is a long-lived entity; "in a container" worries me a bit that you may be treating it as an ephemeral thing. You need to create the key, publish the public portion, associate it with your launchpad account, be sure that you can use it reliably, etc etc
[18:25] <keepguessing> sarnold: I will mount it from outside from the host. I did not know I needed it earlier. Now I do.
[18:42] <keepguessing> I was trying to understand what the 4 options for the --gen-key was providing. So I googled. I learnt a lot about it from this url. thought if someone is interested they could read this. apart from the gpg gnu page. http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/72581/new-pgp-key-rsa-rsa-or-dsa-elgamal
[20:07] <keepguessing> sarnold: I was able to sign and create my ppa. But dput hangs while upload a source.changes file while uploading.
[20:07] <keepguessing> I am behing a proxy server at work.
[20:07] <keepguessing> would this effect me?
[20:08] <keepguessing> it fails with connection error 111.
[20:09] <sarnold> keepguessing: that could be a proxy / firewall; dput supports many methods to connect, perhaps one of the others would work for you? check out the dput.cf(5) manpage for details
[20:38] <keepguessing> sarnold: the man page does not tell me about the http option.
[20:38] <keepguessing> sarnold: it says that it exists but does not tell me what other parameters value should be
[20:39] <keepguessing> like the http server for the upload. [I saw that it is differnt for different protocols] if I use the existing one it fails with 405 for the http
[20:41] <sarnold> keepguessing: sorry, I don't know what methods launchpad actually support; I use ftp (for no good reason), I know others use scp or sftp.. I can't recall which I've heard that he used, now...
[20:41] <sarnold> keepguessing: there's a chance the 405 came from your proxy server rather than launchpad; do you have any access to the proxy to suggest different configurations, in the event that the 405 was generated there?
[20:45] <keepguessing> sarnold: no I do nothave access to it.
[20:46] <keepguessing> sarnold: I am trying to use sftp now.
[20:46] <keepguessing> sarnold: but it also hangs.
[20:48] <sarnold> dang :/ you may need toask admins how to get out of your network, hehe
[20:53] <keepguessing> sarnold: alright. i am modifying dput's http module to honour the proxy.
[20:53] <sarnold> woo
[21:25] <keepguessing> ok I need to know the http url for the http method to work.
[21:25] <keepguessing> I am not sure what that is.
[21:34] <wgrant> keepguessing: There is no HTTP upload method.
[21:34] <wgrant> Launchpad only supports FTP and SFTP uploads.
[21:38] <keepguessing> wgrant: ah I see.
[21:38] <keepguessing> wgrant: how can I make it work with a proxy?
[21:41] <wgrant> keepguessing: If you can't use FTP or SSH through the proxy, you'll need to get your network configuration fixed or use another network.
[21:42] <keepguessing> wgrant: ok. so ssh is supported? or you mean sftp?
[21:43] <wgrant> keepguessing: SFTP runs over SSH.
[21:44] <wgrant> Whereas FTPS is FTP over SSL.
[21:44] <wgrant> Only FTP and SFTP are supported.
[21:45] <keepguessing> wgrant: I see. thanks.
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2015-11-13-#kubuntu
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[03:52] <Guest87962> ihello
[03:54] <Guest87962> i recently installed kubuntu 15.10 on my system and the sound system is not working on it..? any help..?
[03:54] <Guest87962> videos are not playing on the dragon player as welll...
[04:13] <shurtagul> why is there wine, wine1.4, and wine1.6 all in the repository?
[04:17] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[04:17] <silv3r_m00n> hi there, suddenly a problem, when i login to plasma desktop the windows dont have any title bar, no background wallpaper and no bottom panel visible
[04:20] <silv3r_m00n> how to fix this
[06:22] <elevenTwelve> helloooo
[06:24] <elevenTwelve> anybody have a suggestion for a channel for java topic?
[06:28] <strayPuppy> ##java
[06:56] <pontoffeltier> hi there
[06:57] <pontoffeltier> anyone here?
[07:00] <dahlia> hi, how come when I install wine it uninstalles kde? is there any way to get it back?
[07:25] <hateball> dahlia: That sounds strange. What version of Kubuntu are you on, and how are you installing Wine?
[07:35] <dahlia> hateball: kubuntu 15.10 amd64, wine 1.6 from aptitude
[07:35] <hateball> hmmm, I am not on 15.10 right now so I cant check
[07:35] <hateball> dahlia: any reason for using 1.6 instead of 1.7?
[07:36] <dahlia> I didnt see 1.7
[07:36] <hateball> hmmm, maybe I am mistaken... but I thought 1.7 would be there by now
[07:36] <hateball> I am on 14.04 on this machine so I cant verify
[07:37] <hateball> seems it is indeed not
[07:40] <dahlia> I've had this problem before on 14.04 with other packages... I think it may have something to do with doing a dist-upgrade
[07:41] <dahlia> try to install something simple and it wants to uninstall all of kde
[07:41] <hateball> Do you have any other repos outside the official ones?
[07:42] <dahlia> probably, like the one for nvidia drivers
[07:42] <hateball> I always dist-upgrade and there's not been an issue with Wine at least... Altho I havent been using it on 15.10. My 14.04 behaves as expected.
[07:42] <hateball> dahlia: could you pastebin what it looks like when you try installing wine?
[07:43] <dahlia> too late, I reinstalled kubuntu
[07:43] <hateball> heh
[07:43] <dahlia> fortunately it was a new install
[07:44] <dahlia> I vaguely remember fixing it on old install by reinstalling kde-plasma-desktop
[08:28] <dahlia> is there a way to make sure gnome apps pick up the color scheme I set in system settings?
[08:31] <dahlia> never mind I found it
[08:32] <jsonify> hello
[08:32] <jsonify> does anyone in here use Eclipse?
[08:40] <hateball> jsonify: Are you taking a poll or do you have an actual question
[08:47] <jsonify> @hateball, i was going to ask a question, but I figured it out
[08:49] <jsonify> i just want to say that I think Kubuntu is beautiful
[08:52] <hateball> :)
[09:08] <Yossarianuk> I have to say since upgrading to 15.10 on my work PC, now that the slow login is fixed seems really nice - I used to have an issue when I came in the morning the machine was really sluggish initally - that seems completely cured now.
[09:08] <Yossarianuk> so thanks everybody !
[09:09] <Yossarianuk> <<< happy camper
[09:10] <dahlia> Is there a hidden super-sekrit document somewhere which tells how to get samba working? o.0
[09:11] <hateball> !samba
[09:11] <dahlia> ty
[09:11] <dahlia> all google had to say didnt work for me :(
[09:12] <hateball> Personally I'd just upgrade any and all machines to Linux and use NFS over the headache that is SMB
[09:13] <dahlia> not an option :P
[09:13] <dahlia> and nfs is ancient
[09:19] <dahlia> those documents dont seem to match the files that kubuntu installed. They mention config variables that dont exist in the supplied configs
[09:25] <Yossarianuk> dahlia: generally 'super secret documents' only exist for closed source stuff...
[09:26] <Yossarianuk> dahlia: nfs is 'ancient' but its also pretty reliable - nfs4 is newer...
[09:26] <dahlia> Yossarianuk: I mean the documents that work. The stuff I find with google are ancient blog posts or forum posts
[09:26] <dahlia> Yossarianuk: using nfs is not an option thank you
[09:27] <dahlia> and have you ever had your nfs client lock up when the nfs server goes down? I have many times and it's NOT fun
[09:30] <Yossarianuk> dahlia: not in the last 5 odd years no. isn't that related to using async ?
[09:31] <Yossarianuk> I tend to use glusterfs not network shares now (geo-replicated)
[09:31] <Yossarianuk> *now*
[09:36] <Smurphy> dahlia: Tell NFS to use udp. It won't lock up the machine.
[09:37] <dahlia> thank you everyone who is telling me how to use nfs. However, I'm trying to share with *windows* machines.
[09:40] <hateball> dahlia: use webdav perhaps?
[09:40] <dahlia> whats that?
[09:40] <hateball> anything that isnt SMB is less painful :p
[09:41] <hateball> dahlia: sharing files over http
[09:41] <dahlia> no thanks
[09:42] <dahlia> if smb doesnt work on 15.10, just tell me
[09:43] <Yossarianuk> dahlia: ah sorry you hadn't said you needed windows to connect..
[09:43] <dahlia> OK I have another question. How do I stop the screen from blanking? I dont see any screensaver listed on the system settings
[09:44] <dahlia> I got it to stop locking but it still blanks after maybe 10ish minutes
[09:45] <dahlia> nvm found it in power management
[10:08] <xela2244> hi, is there a safe way to install gnome on kubuntu 15.10?
[10:12] <dahlia> I thought there was a way you could have both and select the one you wanted on the login screen but I dont remember how. It might be apt-get install gnome-desktop but dont blame me if it breaks :)
[10:13] <xela2244> dahlia you can install it. But gnome and kde don't really work together
[10:14] <dahlia> xela2244: ya you have to pick one at login
[10:14] <dahlia> but I think gnome apps run in kde
[10:14] <dahlia> like right now I have gnome-clocks running in kde
[10:16] <xela2244> ok thanks
[12:43] <kaddi> hi, i kep getting disconnected from irc on konversation but the connection with quassel is stable
[12:44] <kaddi> is there a way to fix it so that i can use konversation?
[12:44] <rvk> hi
[12:44] <rvk> hz
[12:44] <rvk> хз
[12:45] <kaddi> hi
[15:10] <Roey> hi
[15:10] <Roey> something is weirding out on my system and it looks like shift keys / alt keys keep getting turned on rapidly
[15:10] <Roey> and also clicks
[15:10] <Roey> I tried monitoring with xev but I don't see naything
[15:14] <orlandoj> hi everyone, how can someone help me to get the "at" kubuntu 15
[15:15] <soee_> ?
[15:15] <soee_> orlandoj: can you be more specific ?
[15:18] <marco-parillo> Is at (http://linux.die.net/man/1/at) not installed? So at -V returns bash: at: command not found ?
[15:18] <orlandoj> I am a new user and I've just installed the last version but I can get the "at" altGR+2 does not work for me
[15:19] <orlandoj> I have kubuntu 15.04
[15:20] <marco-parillo> What keyboard mapping? Sorry, I have a 'native' @ in en_US.
[15:22] <orlandoj> I am in Belgium, so im using the belgian keyboard
[15:29] <orlandoj> is there an easy way to get the @ ?
[15:30] <marco-parillo> Sorry, I cannot help; maybe somebody from Europe without that character can.
[15:32] <orlandoj> ok thanks anyway
[15:37] <Simonious> What is are PPA and aptitude?
[15:38] <Simonious> Lets try that again: What are PPA and aptitude?
[15:44] <Smurphy> Simonious: PPA is a repository, and aptitude is an add-on to apt-get
[15:56] <marco-parillo> PPAs are great way of easily adding software. Sometimes newer versions than exist in the official repositories, sometimes things that never get there. The nice thing about adding a PPA (rather than installing a .deb) is that you receive updates to the PPA automagically.
[15:57] <marco-parillo> That said, some PPAs are explicitly for helping folks test things BEFORE they are fully baked, so they can affect your system.
[16:12] <hay207> hi guys, how much time pbuilder takes when creating a distro release environment? is it downloading the release, cause my download net graph monitor isnot showing / being at max speed..
[16:12] <Pici> hay207: I'd be concerned if it took longer than 20 minutes
[16:13] <hay207> ok thanks
[16:22] <hay207> is it downloading the release, or what is it doing, last line is : Retrieving Release.gpg,, almost now took 18 minutes .
[16:24] <hay207> i'm taking about pbuilder
[16:34] <hay207> nvm, it works now, after retyping command
[17:15] <robotdevil1> is there a way to select things from the system tray without a mouse?
[19:41] <melray> Need help on how to do this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13250013/
[19:48] <melray> Nevermind I got is solved...
[21:30] <josi> Is there an issue with kaddressbook in 15.10? I can't seem to get carddav contacts to show up anymore.
[21:33] <genii> josi: I do see a bug reported to KDE, but not sure if it applies to your specific setup https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kdepim-bugs/2014-June/094367.html
[21:41] <hay207> hi guys, when decrypting my pgp email , after copying it to a text file, i receive: gpg: decrypt_message failed: file open error
[21:41] <hay207> typing this command: gpg -d pgp.txt
[21:45] <bprompt> hay207: shouldn't the email app manage the decrypting?
[21:46] <hay207> ok, i m trying the terminal
[21:46] <bprompt> josi: dunno, I don't run 15.10 myself, I use 12.04 :)
[21:47] <bprompt> hay207: dunno.... I'd say offhand, check the .txt for any characters that aren't expected by gpg to decrypt it, like non-printable characters before/after the encrypted block
[21:48] <josi> well I like messing around with the newest of the kdes . though only on my laptop hehe
[21:54] <bprompt> josi: well, you're "messing around" it very well I notice, so... success!
[21:54] <bprompt> hehe
[21:58] <josi> yeah, I'm trying to figure out if there's a bug somewhere with my issue
[21:59] <josi> I haven't found much useful debug information yet
[22:02] <bprompt> josi: I've had issues before with the contacts or addressbook or the organizer, they all seem to use the same libs, and the issue IIRC had to do with the Akonadi database, was corrupted or something, I recall that just going to ~/.kde/share/config and removing the akonady configuration files, would rejog it in and the calendar and addressbook will launch
[22:05] <josi> how strange . I can add contacs and they appear on the server correctl and I can see the them in kaddressbook. but those that already are on the server are invisible
[22:05] <josi> yeah maybe an akonadi wipe helps
[22:05] <bprompt> josi: bear in mind that, the data is maintained by the akonadi database and managed by the running daemon, thus
[22:06] <josi> log out and delete, log back in?
[22:07] <bprompt> josi: don't have to, I did it right on the session, and worked
[22:15] <josi> nope seems getting rid of akonadi didn't help
[22:17] <bprompt> josi: what if you run kaddressbook at the command line? so it shows a more verbose session, and then try to run carddav(whatever that is), the terminal messages would show why it may not be launching
[22:18] <bprompt> josi: also... hmmm wondering if you deleted those files while the services were running, and you may not have deleted them all
[22:22] <tytan> Hello, everyone. How can I set the menu to look like in openSUSE 42.1? It's more like a classic layout which I prefer :)
[22:28] <keithzg> tytan: I think they use a different menu widget entirely? Although if you merely want "classic", you can just right-click on the menu button, choose "Alternatives...", and then choose "Application Menu".
[22:29] <denza242> hmm, kickoff right?
[22:29] <tytan> keithzg: Thank you very much. Have you seen their menu?
[22:29] <denza242> i think Netrunner has it
[22:30] <tytan> The same as openSUSE leap?
[22:30] <denza242> tytan: possibly
[22:31] <denza242> hmm, there aren't any screenshots with the menu on the netrunner site
[22:31] <denza242> however, I'm sure there's a video or two floating around
[22:31] <denza242> in any case, that style menu is, as keithzg said, the "Application Menu"
[22:32] <tytan> Meow :)
[22:32] <tytan> Kubuntu 15.10 works pretty nice btw (If a dev is reading)
[22:33] <keithzg> Aha, looking at http://opensuse-guide.org/kde.php it looks like it's just the standard "Application Menu" widget these days. I seem to remember back in the KDE 4 days OpenSUSE had their own menu widget they were using, which is what I was vaguely assuming here.
[22:34] <tytan> I'm reading ...
[22:35] * keithzg kindof misses Lancelot Launcher, but frankly launches apps pretty much exclusively from KRunner or a terminal anyways, heh.
[22:37] <tytan> amazing (=
[22:45] <josi> well I did a find "akonadi*" kmail korganiser kaddressbook while I was only logged in the console . and the issue's still there.
[22:45] <josi> it's so wierd that adding and removing works fine
[22:45] <josi> just not showing contacts on the server .
[23:06] <robert13> list
[23:07] <robert13> exit
[23:07] <bprompt> robert13: get tomatoes, lemons, avocadoes, onions, chilli powder, and don't forget the milk
[23:07] <bprompt> guess he didn't want the list :P
[23:09] * genii slides bprompt a fresh coffee
[23:10] <bprompt> after a get the milk, I'd make some Cafe Au Lait =)
[23:47] <Hudsonkem> mysqld why its running? wht use it?
[23:52] <bprompt> hmm
[23:55] <bprompt> Hudsonkem: run "lsof" on the process, get the mysqld process ID with ps -ax, and then use it with lsof -> lsof -p PIDHERE
[23:56] <bprompt> Hudsonkem: other than that, you can always turn it off from System Settings > startup and shutdown
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2015-11-13-#upstart
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[17:22] <canci> I am trying to make a script that delays the shutdown until a specific task has completed.
[17:22] <canci> My current approach (to test this) looks like this: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/36ac46f826bf3eadf8b5
[17:22] <canci> However, shutdown/reboot will proceed roughly when the counter reaches 15. Any idea how to fix this?
[18:45] <belak> Is there a better way to do this? http://pastie.org/10555257
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2015-11-13-#snappy
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[02:36] <liuxg> I am now using snapcraft to build my project. I find that if I change my source codes, it does not pull automatically. I can pull it, but it seems that it does not automatically build it upon the dependency. how to deal with this?
[02:40] <elopio> liuxg: sounds like this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapcraft/+bug/1477904
[02:42] <liuxg> elopio, yes, I need to pull the code every time, it wastes time
[02:43] <liuxg> elopio, in fact, I want to compile local source codes instead of pulling the code every time from the github, which takes a lot of time. sometimes, bzr projects are huge as well. I have to use snapcraft clean every time for a little change.
[02:46] <elopio> liuxg: yup, we have to fix that. sergiusens is working on sources, please leave your comments on the bug so he takes into account your use case.
[02:48] <sergiusens> liuxg, you are talking specifically about the go plugin, right?
[02:52] <sergiusens> liuxg, you are talking specifically about the go plugin, right?
[03:02] <sergiusens> elopio, https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/goget-ubuntu-touch/1473333/+merge/277412
[03:03] <elopio> sergiusens: omw, things are happening :)
[03:03] <elopio> let me give it a try.
[03:04] <Bluefoxicy> okay why is there an amd64+generic and amd64-generic?
[03:04] <Bluefoxicy> http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/
[03:05] <elopio> sergiusens: you have a mess with the license headers in that project :)
[03:08] <sergiusens> elopio, you don't say? I copied this from go-dbus I think
[03:35] <Bluefoxicy> aw crud.
[03:35] <Bluefoxicy> there are no mirrors with snappy
[03:35] <Bluefoxicy> Hence it takes 1 hour to download
[03:36] <Bluefoxicy> oh wait it's 15.04 not 15.10
[03:58] <Bluefoxicy> and apt does not work
[03:58] <Bluefoxicy> neither does dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[06:51] <liuxg> I have a executable binary called fswebcam (/usr/bin/fswebcam) in a snappy package, I want to use it to capture a picture as described in the https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/build-apps/your-first-snap/. I want to use golang to invoke it to capture a picture. How can I do it? currently, I am using the way at https://github.com/liu-xiao-guo/webcam-http/blob/master/api.go, is there anything wrong with it? thanks
[08:17] <fgimenez> good morning
[08:23] <mvo> hey fgimenez, good morning
[08:24] <fgimenez> hi mvo, how's the release going?
[08:27] <mvo> fgimenez: I think we are good, I was reading trello/tg/mail so far only but nothing that looks like a blocker so I will go ahead and do the promotion next
[08:30] <fgimenez> mvo, great! :) let me know if i can be of any help
[10:01] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Kindness Day! 😃
[11:55] <mvo> fgimenez: if you have a moment, it would be great if you could do some smoke testing with the new webdm http://people.canonical.com/~mvo/tmp/webdm_0.10_all.snap
[11:56] <fgimenez> mvo, sure, on it
[12:21] <fgimenez> mvo, i'm getting this on kvm http://paste.ubuntu.com/13247033/, both rolling/edge and 1504/alpha, is it built for armhf?
[12:55] <mvo> fgimenez: checking, sorry, I just had build it before leaving for lunch
[13:43] <mvo> fgimenez: I had a unclean build env that caused this package to be broken, I uploaded a new version now that should be better.
[13:44] <fgimenez> mvo, ok thanks, i'll try it now
[13:45] <mvo> fgimenez: ups, sorry
[13:45] <mvo> fgimenez: the url is not quite correct, one sec
[13:47] <mvo> fgimenez: its actually now http://people.canonical.com/~mvo/tmp/webdm_0.10_multi.snap
[13:59] <fgimenez> mvo, ok thanks
[13:59] <mvo> fgimenez: fwiw, I did a quick test install on my bbb and it was fine
[15:05] <fgimenez> mvo all seems to be working fine except for the remove buttons, with any installed snap/framework, when i try to remove i get "ERROR: snappy package not found"
[15:06] <fgimenez> mvo, this is the body of the response from the server http://paste.ubuntu.com/13247844/, with a 500 error code
[15:09] <fgimenez> the status "uninstalled" is strange, i get this from the list of snaps http://paste.ubuntu.com/13247865/
[15:11] <sergiusens> elopio, https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/goget-ubuntu-touch/1473333/+merge/277412
[15:12] <sergiusens> I fixed all your comments
[15:14] <mvo> fgimenez: hm, interessting. so any removal fails right now. let me try
[15:17] <elopio> sergiusens: needs fixing.
[15:18] <sergiusens> elopio, nah
[15:18] <sergiusens> :-)
[15:19] <elopio> just drop the test. It's friday and QA knows it.
[15:19] <sergiusens> elopio, done ;-)
[15:20] <elopio> (that's a joke, of course. Don't drop the test :)
[15:20] <sergiusens> elopio, too late
[15:20] <sergiusens> elopio, just kidding ;-)
[15:20] <sergiusens> elopio, should be fine now
[15:22] <elopio> sergiusens: +1.
[15:29] <mvo> fgimenez: I can reproduce the error you see
[15:51] <mvo> sergiusens, Chipaca: if someone could help with https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/webdm/new-snappy/+merge/277433 that would be cool, hopefully something simple but with that branch fgimenez and I get "Error: snappy package not found" when trying to remove any snap. this seems to be workng ok with 0.9.4
[15:52] <fgimenez> mvo, sergiusens, Chipaca the server returns this http://paste.ubuntu.com/13247844/ with a 500
[15:54] <kyrofa> jdstrand, found another bug in snappy-debug. Is there a place to file bugs/submit MPs?
[16:01] <jdstrand> kyrofa: https://code.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/snappy-hub/snappy-debug
[16:01] <jdstrand> but just against the snappy project, but an MP is good enough for me
[16:03] <kyrofa> jdstrand, on its way!
[16:03] <kyrofa> ... right after standup
[16:15] <Chipaca> mvo: is it bad if I jot that down as a "do over the weekend" task?
[16:15] <Chipaca> mvo: or is this a blocker?
[16:17] <mvo> Chipaca: never
[16:17] <mvo> Chipaca: no, no not at all
[16:18] <longsleep> Chipaca: Do you have a minute, i might have found an issue with the firstboot service boot order change
[16:18] <mvo> Chipaca: I will see what I can do to control the damage, but only the "edge" channel of webdm is affected
[16:18] <mvo> Chipaca: and once the release is out I should have some cycles again
[16:19] <Chipaca> longsleep: certainly sir
[16:20] <longsleep> Chipaca: problem is that now some snap provided services can run before firstboot
[16:20] <longsleep> Chipaca: To be exact, the services which have no external networking, start on ubuntu-snappy.frameworks.target
[16:21] <sergiusens> Chipaca, mvo fgimenez maybe we can just start using the rest api for removal, DONE ;-)
[16:22] <sergiusens> mvo, oh, this is very specific to webdm and its build against new snappy APIs
[16:23] <Chipaca> longsleep: augh
[16:25] <longsleep> Chipaca: so i think, the snappy services need to wait on firstboot or something, not sure what happens when the frameworks target is run after firstboot instead of after run-hooks
[16:25] <mvo> sergiusens: heh, indeed, maybe I should venture a bit into JS land
[16:26] <longsleep> Chipaca: a crude workaround could be to add a fake external port to the snap which has config applied by firstboot, that makes such snaps to start after snappy-wait4network.service
[16:26] <Chipaca> it's starting to feel like a game of whack-a-mole
[16:26] <Chipaca> but without the cute eep sounds
[16:27] <Chipaca> i need to sit down with graphviz and some patience
[16:27] <Chipaca> or, well, somebody does :)
[16:29] <longsleep> Chipaca: i am adding the ugly details to bug 1511435
[16:32] <kyrofa> jdstrand, https://code.launchpad.net/~kyrofa/snappy-hub/snappy-debug_escape_regex_strings/+merge/277463
[16:37] <jerryG> any1 know about opengl on snappy?
[16:39] <jdstrand> mvo: https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/pull/55#issuecomment-156482348
[16:39] <jdstrand> kyrofa: thanks!
[16:41] <mvo> thanks jdstrand
[16:41] <jdstrand> mvo: thank you :)
[16:41] * jdstrand hugs mvo
[16:41] * mvo hugs jdstrand
[16:42] <longsleep> sweet
[16:42] <jerryG> status of opengl support on snappy?
[16:42] <davmor2> jdstrand, mvo: man get a room alerady
[16:42] * Chipaca hugs mvo and jdstrand
[16:42] <Chipaca> let's land that sucker
[16:42] * mvo hugs Chipaca and davmor2
[16:42] <Chipaca> davmor2: you're just jealous of our love
[16:43] <longsleep> feel the love in snappy channel
[16:43] * jdstrand hugs Chipaca, davmor2, mvo (again) and longsleep :)
[16:43] <Chipaca> jerryG: 無
[16:44] <davmor2> okay okay I feel the love, /me hugs everyone
[16:45] <jerryG> Chipaca: 为什么
[16:45] <jerryG> Chipaca: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/snappy-devel/2015-October/001114.html
[16:47] <jerryG> Chipaca: :{
[16:49] <Chipaca> jerryG: you asked about “opengl support”. I can't even answer “no” to that question, because the question itself seems to assume things that aren't quite right
[16:49] <Chipaca> jerryG: hence, mu
[16:50] <Chipaca> jerryG: intel architecture snappy ships with the kernel-side gpu drivers, that are one part of what's needed for supporting opengl
[16:51] <Chipaca> jerryG: there is a mir snap, that i think uses those drivers, but would you consider that “opengl support”?
[16:51] <Chipaca> jerryG: there is no X in snappy, for example
[16:51] <Chipaca> jerryG: not today; possibly never? I don't know
[16:52] <jerryG> Chipaca: can i use sdl file with snappy ?
[16:52] <Chipaca> jerryG: what's a sdl file?
[16:56] <richmb> hello?
[16:58] <Chipaca> richmb: o/
[16:58] <zyga> hey
[16:59] <richmb> I had some questions about the apt-get(non-snappy) version of ubuntu core
[17:00] <richmb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core
[17:00] <richmb> this wiki page hasn't been updated in a while, but the releases seem upto date
[17:01] <richmb> is this something that will be continued to be supported?
[17:01] <Chipaca> no idea; i work on snappy itself ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[17:02] <richmb> we ran into some troubles trying to port snappy, but the ubuntu core rootfs was easy to bring up.
[17:04] <zyga> richmb: what are you porting to??
[17:04] <zyga> s/\?\?/?/
[17:05] <richmb> an Altera Cyclone V arm Soc
[17:05] <richmb> https://support.criticallink.com/redmine/projects/mityarm-5cs/wiki
[17:06] <liuxg> when I am trying to run a snappy command, it complains "another snappy is running, try again later". what is the reason for this? it happened a few times to me.
[17:08] <ogra_> richmb, the ubuntu-core tarball has nothing to do with snappy, it is "just enough OS to run apt in a chroot" and is used for buildds and the like ... a snappy ubuntu-core rootfs has massively different content
[17:08] <ogra_> snappy image currently come fron system-image.ubuntu.com
[17:08] <ogra_> *images
[17:09] <richmb> I understand that. I wanted to know if the ubuntu-core tarballs would be available for future ubuntu versions. As the wiki page hasn't been updated in a while.
[17:10] <ogra_> richmb, you have to ask infinity in #ubuntu-devel ... it was never an official product i think
[17:12] <Chipaca> liuxg: every so often a snappy update runs automatically
[17:12] <ogra_> (RaspberryPi2)ubuntu@localhost:~$ snappy list
[17:12] <ogra_> Name Date Version Developer
[17:12] <ogra_> ubuntu-core 2015-11-13 3 ubuntu
[17:12] <ogra_> webdm 2015-11-13 0.9.4 canonical
[17:12] <ogra_> pi2 2015-11-13 0.16 canonical
[17:12] <ogra_> mvo, ^^^ looks all fine
[17:12] <liuxg> Chipaca, i really do not want it to update. how can I stop it?
[17:13] <Chipaca> liuxg: from memory: echo 'config: {ubuntu-core: {autoupdate: false}}' | sudo snappy config ubuntu-core - | grep auto
[17:13] <richmb> thanks orga
[17:13] <Chipaca> liuxg: although that might be autopilot instead of autoupdate, depending on what snappy you're running
[17:13] <SaMnCo-desktop> getting the exact same situation, it seems the auto update features are active by default
[17:14] <Chipaca> used to be called autopilot, becase we like confusing people ;-)
[17:14] <Chipaca> SaMnCo-desktop: yes
[17:14] <SaMnCo-desktop> Chipaca- this is not cool. Back to Windows days where the system would reboot in the middle of an important task?
[17:14] <liuxg> Chipaca, it seems it is an update. at one time, it prompted me there would be reboot sth like that.
[17:15] <Chipaca> liuxg: yep
[17:15] <Chipaca> SaMnCo-desktop: https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/blob/master/docs/autoupdate.md
[17:15] <Chipaca> SaMnCo-desktop: except, as i said, it might be called autopilot instead of autoupdate, depending on what you're running
[17:16] <SaMnCo-desktop> Chipaca- yeah, I have autopilot on my BBBs and Rpi2
[17:16] <Chipaca> SaMnCo-desktop: and it's exactly like windows, except for everything
[17:16] <Chipaca> SaMnCo-desktop: :-)
[17:16] <SaMnCo-desktop> thx for the link, useful. Still, I would not have a behavior that forces the reboot of the system being active by default
[17:16] <Chipaca> SaMnCo-desktop: i mean, it's an option you can turn off, and it prints out how to abort the reboot if you're logged in
[17:17] <jerryG> Chipaca: sdl file is for opengl. How do i make an image with intel opengl graphics drivers?
[17:17] <SaMnCo-desktop> What if it's my drone in the sky?
[17:17] <ogra_> SaMnCo-desktop, then turn it off :)
[17:17] <Chipaca> SaMnCo-desktop: if you're putting the default image on a drone in the sky, you're going to have a bad time
[17:17] <SaMnCo-desktop> ogra_- I understand I can turn it off, I am just saying, something that reboots a device should not be active by default
[17:18] <Chipaca> sigh
[17:18] <liuxg> Chipaca, it will be finished once it is updated, right?
[17:18] <SaMnCo-desktop> but well, we don't have to agree on everything ;)
[17:18] <Chipaca> SaMnCo-desktop: yes, you're saying that. I disagree, because of several things
[17:18] <ogra_> SaMnCo-desktop, if you produce a drone you likely use your own oem snap and will define what config options are on in it
[17:18] <mvo> ogra_: \o/
[17:19] <Chipaca> SaMnCo-desktop: the biggest is that it's not really on by default; it's on if and only if the gadget snap you used to build the image sets it
[17:19] <mvo> ogra_: mail is out
[17:19] <ogra_> mvo, yay
[17:19] <SaMnCo-desktop> Chipaca- so that means the images on the website have that active by default
[17:19] <Chipaca> SaMnCo-desktop: the default image has it on, because the default image is for developers and clouds, where you most likely want to keep things up to date (and if you don't, you know you don't, and you disable it)
[17:19] <SaMnCo-desktop> I just downloaded them this morning
[17:20] <Chipaca> SaMnCo-desktop: and it's already on a drone in the sky? wow you're fast
[17:20] <SaMnCo-desktop> :D
[17:20] <SaMnCo-desktop> It's just I have 7 devices, downloading tons of stuff, and I didn't know about this thing, and it just means I have to run my scripts all over again
[17:21] <SaMnCo-desktop> and it's slowww to run Docker / LXD stuff on BBBs...
[17:21] <ogra_> err
[17:21] <Chipaca> SaMnCo-desktop: why does an update mean you need to run your scripts again?
[17:21] <ogra_> yes :)
[17:21] <SaMnCo-desktop> Chipaca- because it downloads stuff
[17:21] <ogra_> everythin is slow on a BBB
[17:22] <ogra_> except actual embedded stuff ...
[17:22] <Chipaca> SaMnCo-desktop: but the download doesn't vanish on update
[17:22] <SaMnCo-desktop> Chipaca- it does on reboot though
[17:22] <SaMnCo-desktop> anyway
[17:22] <SaMnCo-desktop> that what scripts are for: automate stuff
[17:23] <Chipaca> SaMnCo-desktop: why does the download vanish on reboot?
[17:24] <SaMnCo-desktop> Chipaca- I'm not following you. I had a docker image running, and a docker pull going on. The update killed Docker
[17:24] <SaMnCo-desktop> as a consequence, both actions went down
[17:24] <SaMnCo-desktop> and now the system is about to reboot. I can catch it (hopefully) but that means the system is not functional anymore
[17:24] <SaMnCo-desktop> and I'll have to restart the commands
[17:25] <SaMnCo-desktop> to start Docker and pull the images I want
[17:25] <Chipaca> ah, the download was interrupted by the reboot, and it doesn't know to resume, now i got it
[17:25] <Chipaca> i thought the download had finished
[17:25] <SaMnCo-desktop> yeah, it's a trivial bash script
[17:25] <SaMnCo-desktop> started remotely
[17:26] <Chipaca> SaMnCo-desktop: well, a few things. one is that if you're on stable, updates are infrequent (not more than once a week, and that's pushing it)
[17:26] <ogra_> well, supposedly once a month actually
[17:26] <Chipaca> SaMnCo-desktop: the other is that you can disable it, but if you do it's on you to run update every so often to make sure you're current
[17:26] <ogra_> we just had a few busy weeks
[17:26] <Chipaca> yeah
[17:27] <Chipaca> i said once a week because i think if we try to do more often than that mvo will undergo a phase change
[17:27] <Chipaca> not sure if he'll melt or just evaporate
[17:27] <Chipaca> but it won't be pretty
[17:27] <SaMnCo-desktop> ok
[17:28] <SaMnCo-desktop> the good side is that I now have a much more clever install / cluster management script for the next batch :)
[17:28] <Chipaca> :)
[17:28] <SaMnCo-desktop> if it had happened while I was afk, I would just have found things broken
[17:28] <SaMnCo-desktop> now I know how to fix it :)
[17:28] <Chipaca> SaMnCo-desktop: also, if you stop the reboot, the system isn't broken or inconsistent
[17:28] <ogra_> you should just put it in a snap
[17:28] <Chipaca> SaMnCo-desktop: the update is separate
[17:29] <SaMnCo-desktop> ogra_- yep, that's the plan
[17:29] <Chipaca> SaMnCo-desktop: *also* also, note it updates everything, but only system updates cause the reboot
[17:29] <SaMnCo-desktop> but right now it's for my talk at DockerCon, I don't have a lot of time
[17:29] <Chipaca> ok, i'll stop chatting to you and let you get back to cussing the system into shape then
[17:30] * Chipaca goes for some more tea
[17:30] <SaMnCo-desktop> :D have a good one
[17:33] <longsleep> Reading the changes in the latest 15.04 stable release, what is actually the snappy REST API and how do i accesss it?
[17:33] <longsleep> -s
[18:51] <sergiusens> elopio, https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/pull/97
[19:30] <richmb> Are there any training or classes on snappy that could help with porting.
[19:35] <tedg> richmb: We've done a few Snappy clinics that might help: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-qBHd6_LXWYm8qttcXaosAIzejTa5IPj
[19:51] <Chipaca> longsleep: wrt the REST API, hold on
[19:52] <Chipaca> longsleep: there's a pull request with docs
[19:52] <Chipaca> longsleep: but it is going to be revamped for 16.04
[19:53] <Chipaca> longsleep: i'll get you the link of my internet holds up
[19:54] <Chipaca> longsleep: https://github.com/chipaca/snappy/blob/rest-doc/docs/rest.md
[19:55] <Chipaca> longsleep: i'll expect to get to merging that over the weekend, or early next week
[19:56] <Chipaca> longsleep: in particular, the details of how to handle licensed snaps is going to be different real soon now
[21:58] <bago> hi all
[21:59] <frecel> bago: hey
[21:59] <frecel> lool: ping
[22:00] <bago> i have an android smart tv box and was wondering if it's ok to use the raspberry pi2 sd card ubuntu on it?
[22:00] <bago> or the beaglebone 1
[22:01] <bago> it is armv7 (cortex-a5)
[22:01] <frecel> I see no reason why that wouldn't work since it's just another external input
[22:02] <frecel> practically there is no difference between connecting a ps4 and a pi to your tv
[22:04] <bago> so the snappy armhf rpi2 img using win32diskimager should boot from sd?
[22:07] <frecel> bago: oh you just want to plug the sdcard to your tv
[22:07] <frecel> without the rasperry pi itself?
[22:08] <bago> no i want to run a persistent ubuntu on sd card but leave my android intact
[22:08] <bago> i'm not sure what board my tv box has
[22:08] <bago> it seems to be an odroid c1 with a tuner card
[22:10] <bago> would it help if i linked the url to the box?
[22:12] <bago> i basically want to run ubuntu on this http://www.smartvboxs.com/products/Amlogic-S805-Quad-core-1G-8G-Mali-450GPU-Android-4.4-VIGICA-C100S.html#.VkZgNHbhCJA
[22:13] <bago> kodibuntu ideally but ubuntu would be a good start
[22:17] <bago> is it possible to brick my device by trying?
[22:25] <tedg> Yes, and it probably won't work.
[22:25] <tedg> You really need to support the specific board when it comes to ARM stuff.
[22:25] <tedg> It's not like x86 where the CPU and BIOS are rather standardized.
[22:26] <bago> right so i'd have to port it to a new board?
[22:27] <tedg> Correct, what ever CPU/configuration/etc that box is using.
[22:28] <bago> how big would that be for an amateur?
[22:28] <tedg> Reasonably large, but everyone needs to start somewhere. :-)
[22:28] <bago> with a windows pc :)
[22:29] <tedg> But if there's no CynogenMod port or ASOP tree, it'll be nearly impossible.
[22:29] <bago> how would i find out if there is?
[22:29] <tedg> Google :-)
[22:31] <bago> i'm not really sure what board i'd google though tbh :)
[22:35] <bago> i have had openelec boot from sd card so i assume it must be possible, it had no wifi but i think the driver is available it's just it was compiled on a similar device
[22:53] <lool> frecel: pong
[22:54] <frecel> lool: there are rumors going around that you were working on getting snappy to run on an intel edison
[22:54] <frecel> did you have any succes with that?
[22:55] <lool> frecel: yes and no; it's on the "nice to complete someday" list, but I'm happy to give you pointers if you'd like to resurrect
[22:57] <frecel> I bought my edison to try building an ubuntu smartwatch so I would appreciate any help
[22:58] <lool> frecel: so basically the top thing that was missing was initrd loading and someway to repartition the device safely; with latest released image and the new flashing tool, it's all doable, but I didn't have time to assemble an image
[23:01] <frecel> lool: so at it's current state it just get's stuck in a reboot loop?
[23:11] <lool> frecel: there is no current image for edison
[23:19] <frecel> lool: did you document your work so far in any way? I have not done anything like this before so I'm not even entirely sure where to start to be honest
[23:21] <lool> frecel: so the latest bootloader also added support for the external SD card
[23:21] <lool> frecel: I'd start by creating an x86 SD card image and starting snappy manually with intel's kernel + snappy initrd + snappy rootfs from the u-boot prompt
[23:32] <Chipaca> lool: the edison uses uboot?
[23:32] <lool> Chipaca: yes
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2015-11-13-#ubuntu-za
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[06:00] <magespawn> good morning
[06:01] <thatgraemeguy> mornings
[06:12] <pieter2627> morning all
[06:23] <Squirm> Morning
[06:25] <magespawn> hi thatgraemeguy pieter2627 Squirm
[06:29] <thatgraemeguy> g'day
[06:59] <inetpro> sanibonani
[07:21] <magespawn> hey inetpro
[08:14] <mazal> Mornings
[10:43] <pieter2627> \away
[11:00] <inetpro> pieter2627: hehe, you're still here :-)
[11:36] <pieter2627> inetpro: still confuse the slashes at time
[11:37] * pieter2627 wonders why not just one existed
[11:44] <mazal> Couldn't agree more
[11:51] <thatgraemeguy> the \ was introduced so that the ALGOL boolean operators ∧ (AND) and ∨ (OR) could be composed in ASCII as "/\" and "\/" respectively.
[11:52] <thatgraemeguy> interesting
[11:55] <theblazehen> nice
[12:46] <Kilos> afternoon everyone
[12:55] <theblazehen> hi Kilos
[13:08] <Kilos> hi theblazehen
[14:08] <magespawn> home time, bye
[18:49] <superfly> ohi
[18:53] <inetpro> Kilos-: rain!!!!
[18:53] <inetpro> good evening everybody
[18:53] <inetpro> oh and hi superfly
[18:55] <superfly> hi
[18:55] * superfly is off to Mozambique on Sunday morning
[18:55] <inetpro> superfly: wow! That's quite a long trip for you, you driving?
[18:55] <superfly> negative, flying
[18:56] <inetpro> with kids and all?
[18:59] <Kilos-> oh my inetpro you lucky
[18:59] <Kilos-> hope you get lots
[19:00] <Kilos-> hi superfly
[19:00] <superfly> inetpro: negative. business flight.
[19:00] <inetpro> Kilos-: eish, I guess I need to slow down and stop getting excited when the first few drops start falling
[19:01] <Kilos-> oh my
[19:01] <inetpro> but I was seriously surprised now to hear it falling outside
[19:01] <inetpro> stopped again now, let's hope it continues soon
[19:01] <Kilos-> yeah its become an unfamiliar sound hey
[19:02] <inetpro> started without any thunder in the background
[19:02] <Kilos-> ai!
[19:02] <Kilos-> weve had nothing
[19:03] <Kilos-> just heat
[19:05] <inetpro> starting to get windy now, hope it doesn't blow everything away again
[19:08] <Kilos-> ai!
[19:09] <inetpro> tough season
[19:14] <Kilos-> yip
[19:14] <Kilos-> night all. sleep tight
[19:25] <inetpro> superfly: nice to see you getting around, enjoy it!
[19:25] <superfly> heh. I'm going to be stuck in a basement in a hot city crunking out code
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"thatgraemeguy",
"theblazehen"
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2015-11-13-#kubuntu-devel
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[07:24] <Ridgewing> Morning all !
[07:25] <Ridgewing> flexiondotorg, pingy ping-thingy
[14:30] <marco-parillo> Lots of fresh, new on the daily build this morning: https://lists.launchpad.net/kubuntu-council/msg00050.html
[14:30] <marco-parillo> Whoops
[14:30] <marco-parillo> 112 upgraded, 17 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[14:59] <sgclark> morning
[15:53] <yofel> good
[15:55] <sgclark> ooh lovely shades of green
[15:56] <sgclark> anyone testing applications? has anyone been able to sign into google and use KTP with it? Mine is totally busted and I can't even find a way to turn it off lol.
[16:01] <marco-parillo> sgclark: It did not work for me. I got an GMail warning me about a possible security hole that they helpfully closed.
[16:03] <marco-parillo> Sorry it has been some months since I tried and I deleted the e-mail. If you ping me here afternoon PST, I can try again when I am home (work blocks many services, so it would not be a good test from work).
[16:03] <sgclark> hmm. Mine just downright rejects me. Auth failure. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354949
[16:03] <sgclark> just curious if anyone has google working
[16:03] <sgclark> no worries
[21:11] <ahoneybun> around sgclark?
[21:12] <sgclark> ahoneybun: sorta, whats up? (wearing kde hat atm)
[21:12] <ahoneybun> I'm trying the ktp thing I think
[21:12] <ahoneybun> google hangouts on the desktop
[21:12] <sgclark> ahh ok, yours works?
[21:13] <ahoneybun> it takes my password but does not show me online
[21:13] <ahoneybun> oh
[21:13] <ahoneybun> now it told me auth failed
[21:13] <sgclark> yeah same
[21:13] <ahoneybun> mm
[21:13] <sgclark> yep same failure
[21:13] <ahoneybun> I mean it was broken i think before
[21:13] <ahoneybun> before 15.08.3
[21:13] <sgclark> can you add your self to the bug I linked above?
[21:14] <ahoneybun> sure
[21:14] <sgclark> thanks
[21:15] <ahoneybun> seems I still have power in there
[21:15] <ahoneybun> I can change a lot of the details
[21:15] <ahoneybun> mm where do I add me
[21:15] <sgclark> well once you get it, they don't really take it away unless you really mess things up lol
[21:15] <ahoneybun> I added my self to the CC
[21:16] <sgclark> ty
[21:16] <ahoneybun> so I guess we can say it is still in 15.08.3 lol
[21:16] <ahoneybun> it was reported against 15.08.2
[21:16] <ahoneybun> also it is upsteam
[21:16] <sgclark> oh, should prolly update that
[21:16] <ahoneybun> I can
[21:16] <sgclark> k
[21:17] <ahoneybun> .3 is not on the list
[21:17] <ahoneybun> mm I guess you cant just say it effects you like on LP
[21:17] <sgclark> that seems to be my main blocker for putting 15.08.3 in backports. but if it is broken in .2 as well..
[21:18] <sgclark> yeah, I am not a big fan of kde's bug system..
[21:18] <sgclark> terrible time finding anything on it
[21:18] <ahoneybun> mm I guess I can say it +1 on it
[21:19] <sgclark> yeah, I expect your logs will have the exact same error as the rest of us. has something with sasl2
[21:19] <ahoneybun> "Scarlett Clark and I have this bug in 15.08.3 over at Kubuntu 15.10 as well so it is upstream and still there for sure." is my comment
[21:19] <ahoneybun> what log?
[21:20] <sgclark> I ran it under gdb to get output
[21:20] <ahoneybun> oh
[21:20] <sgclark> I posted mine, should be enough, as it was exactly the same as other reporters
[21:20] * ahoneybun is clueless
[21:20] <ahoneybun> I wonder what is going on with that currecy bug from akademy
[21:20] <sgclark> eh?
[21:21] <ahoneybun> krunner can not convery money right
[21:21] <ahoneybun> the backend website it was using is gone
[21:21] <ahoneybun> Riddell and I said they should use duckduckgo
[21:21] <sgclark> err ouch
[21:21] <ahoneybun> it pointed to a .xml file I believe
[21:22] <ahoneybun> put "15.00 usd to eur" in krunner and see :)
[21:25] <ahoneybun> does not seem to be a bug report
[21:25] <ahoneybun> unless I'm searching wrong
[21:27] <sgclark> perhaps not, I have a terrible time finding bugs in kde bugzilla
[21:27] <ahoneybun> mm
[21:52] <keithzg> It goes look like there's only 2 open bugs files against the "converter" component in krunner: https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?bug_severity=normal&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=CONFIRMED&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=converter&list_id=1311557&product=krunner
[21:52] <keithzg> s/goes/does
[21:54] <keithzg> Not many bugs ever, it seems, so perhaps most are filed against respective backends instead? https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?bug_severity=normal&bug_status=ANY&component=converter&list_id=1311557&product=krunner
[22:06] <valorie> I was told that something about 2-stage authentication was the problem with google
[22:06] <valorie> but I never managed to make it work in ktp either
[22:18] <keithzg> valorie: I have it working these days on my Jolla, which uses Telepathy as the backend, but I *don't* have 2-stage authentication set up with Google. And I actually had to turn down Google's security settings anyways to get normal plain IMAP access :( In the Google account settings this is a user-friendly but then unfortunately rather blunt option of just toggling on or off "Allow less secure apps".
[22:19] <valorie> interesting
[22:22] <keithzg> Hmm, although I did just fire up a 15.10 VM and try it and I get the same error with the authentication.
[22:26] <keithzg> Admittedly I haven't tried it on my Jolla for at least a week or two. I'll have to double-check that when I get home then.
[22:27] <ahoneybun> keithzg: I think this is it https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340819
[22:28] <ahoneybun> 1 USD in EUR
[22:28] <ahoneybun> gives 1e+99 EUR
[22:28] <ahoneybun> so the bug is there
[22:28] <soee> hiho
[22:29] <ahoneybun> hola soee
[22:30] <keithzg> ahoneybun: A bit weird that it was resolved as a dupe of https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345750 which is a *newer* bug, heh.
[22:32] <ahoneybun> thing is I remember commenting on a bug at akademy
[22:36] <keithzg> ahoneybun: You should be able to just search for your comments then, eh?
[22:37] <ahoneybun> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350652
[22:37] <ahoneybun> yep thanks keithzg
[22:39] <ahoneybun> I've marked that bug as a copy of 345750
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[02:21] <MerliM> hggdh, povo todos estão bem :D
[02:21] <MerliM> [off-topic] treino hoje puxadooo
[02:23] <astroo-> tudo e tu?
[02:55] <MerliM> ta calmo aqui hoje ou é impressão minha???
[02:56] <astroo-> sim
[03:00] <KurtKraut> MerliM, Toda madrugada é assim.
[03:01] <MerliM> mas nem é madruga ainda
[03:01] <hggdh> heh. são 21:00 aqui
[03:01] <MerliM> :(
[03:02] <KurtKraut> No Brasil, na capital, são 01:00 já.
[03:04] <MerliM> kkk
[03:05] <hggdh> lembro-me de algo assim: "em Brasília, dezenove horas"
[03:07] <MerliM> Sou do nordeste Maranhão nem rola aqui ainda 0 horas
[03:10] <MerliM> saindo aqui povo assistir algo
[03:10] <MerliM> até mais
[03:14] <asdf999> alguem aqui sabe se ouve mudanças no drive da placa de video intel no kernel 4.1.13 ?
[03:16] <hggdh> asdf999: só lendo o changelog -- esta é a melhor fonte de informação depois dos commits
[03:17] <asdf999> hggdh, beleza então
[04:03] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[11:28] <Aloizio> Bom dia, galera estou estudando para um concurso, e em outras versões SAMBA em [globa] vinha comentada security = user. Isto não esta mais endo usado?
[11:46] <MerliM> Aloizio, bom dia mano
[11:47] <MerliM> Aloizio, creio eu que nas novas versõe não seja mais usando porem deixa eu checar
[11:47] <Aloizio> bom dia, é não encontrei na nova versão mas acrescentei ela.
[11:47] <Ronaldo> Bom dia, como faço pra gravar a iso no dvd?
[11:48] <aedigital> Ronaldo, no linux ou no windows?
[11:48] <Ronaldo> linux
[11:48] <aedigital> bem, seja la como for, devera usar a opcao de gravar a partir de imagem
[11:48] <aedigital> do seu software de gravacao
[11:49] <aedigital> k3b, xfburn
[11:49] <aedigital> deve gravar sem tentar "descompactar"
[11:49] <MerliM> Ronaldo, qual ambiente vc usa no linux
[11:50] <Ronaldo> estou no windows e quero instalar o linux
[11:50] <Aloizio> MerliM, minha dúvida é que se isso implicaria mais alguma alteração, mas vou seguir fazerndo e testar no final com security = user que acrescentei
[11:50] <Ronaldo> baixei a iso e quero gravar no dvd pra fazer a instalação
[11:51] <aedigital> eh como falei acima
[11:51] <aedigital> voce provavelmente deve ter um programa pra gravacao de cds no seu windows
[11:51] <Ronaldo> sim
[11:52] <MerliM> Ronaldo, clica botao direito emcima da iso e manda gravar em cd/dvd pronto
[11:52] <aedigital> e este programa deve ter uma opcao especifica pra gravacao de isos (imagem )
[11:52] <MerliM> cara implica sim
[11:52] <MerliM> Aloizio,
[11:54] <MerliM> Aloizio, da uma sacada
[11:54] <MerliM> https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/ch09.html
[11:55] <MerliM> User-Level Security
[11:55] <MerliM> The default mode of security with Samba is user-level security. With this method, each share is assigned specific users that can access it. When a user requests a connection to a share, Samba authenticates by validating the given username and password with the authorized users in the configuration file and the passwords in the password database of the Samba server. As mentioned earlier in the chapter, one way to isolate which users are allo
[11:55] <MerliM> to a specific share is by using the valid users option for each share:
[11:55] <MerliM> [global]
[11:55] <MerliM> security = user
[11:55] <MerliM> hggdh, sorry :(
[12:00] <Aloizio> meu ingles não é dos melhores mas vamos ver se entendi, com a linha security = user, eu exige que o usuária estaja cadastrado no linux, e não só no samba
[12:01] <MerliM> isso
[12:01] <MerliM> :D
[12:01] <MerliM> usuário deve ter senha local mesmo que não logue localmente e senha no smbdb
[12:01] <MerliM> via smbpasswd
[12:01] <Aloizio> isso
[12:02] <Aloizio> com poucas palavras você falou o que eu tentei escrever
[12:02] <MerliM> isso
[12:02] <MerliM> nao mano tá la saiu nada da minha cabeça nao sou noob kkk
[12:03] <MerliM> vc tá tentando fazer o que com samba
[12:03] <MerliM> ?
[12:04] <Aloizio> compartilhar arquivos, sei que posso fazer de forma mais simples com uma configura menos detalhada, mas estou estudando para concurso então preciso um pouco mais detalhes
[12:04] <Aloizio> é uma prova prática de um concurso
[12:07] <MerliM> háaa tá
[12:07] <MerliM> pensei ser algo pra produção
[12:08] <Aloizio> não, ainda não, mas seu eu passar vai ser hahhaha, e vou passar.
[12:10] <MerliM> então já vou lhe da uma dica de livro muito bom e free
[12:10] <MerliM> muitoo pratico usei pra fazer um ambiente de produção em uma empresa com autenticacao via DC e diretorios pessoais de cada usuário
[12:28] <Aloizio> tenho um livro do morimoto q uso até hj e é antigo ele. mas bem completinho
[12:35] <aedigital> poe antigo nisto entao
[12:35] <aedigital> :)
[13:00] <teste> alguem poderia informar como posso recuperar senha root esquecida. Nota : eu não quero resetar e fazer outra eu quero recuperar a senha.
[13:01] <aedigital> muito dificil
[13:02] <aedigital> ainda mais se a senha for uma senha complexa
[13:02] <MerliM> teste, vai na inicializacao e pressiona tab deve aparece o mode de recovery ele vai te jogar num prompt shell single user tenta por la
[13:02] <MerliM> senao da um linux single na inicialização nao lembro o procedimento a risca
[13:03] <aedigital> o que ele vai conseguir com isto eh criar outra senha
[13:03] <MerliM> outra forma provavelmente é inicializa via live-cd dai monta os diretorios do jeito que são exemplo
[13:03] <aedigital> agora recuperar a senha perdida
[13:03] <MerliM> e assim por diante
[13:03] <MerliM> depois da um chroot no /mnt
[13:03] <teste> infelizmente eu não poso mudar a senha, tenho que tentar recuperar
[13:03] <MerliM> e pronto
[13:03] <aedigital> soh com brute force ou outros recursos bem mais avancados
[13:04] <MerliM> passwd root seja feliz
[13:04] <MerliM> teste, atenção faça isso num ambiente de propriedade SEU
[13:04] <MerliM> fazer isso sem permissão é CRIME
[13:04] <MerliM> teste, detalhe o procedimento é pra trocar a senha nao recupera-la
[13:05] <MerliM> teste, por qual motivo nao podes mudar a senha
[13:05] <MerliM> ?
[13:05] <teste> são 30 máquinas
[13:05] <teste> muito trabalho refazer cada uma
[13:07] <MerliM> teste, todas tem as mesmas configuracoes de sistema
[13:07] <MerliM> identicas
[13:07] <MerliM> ???
[13:07] <elisboa> teste: faça brute force então
[13:07] <MerliM> altera em uma e replica nas outras oxi
[13:07] <tavinho> Bom dia! nao consigo instalar mais nenhum programa no meu ubuntu....quando faço apt-get update ele dá um monte de 404...alguém sabe o porque?
[13:07] <teste> de senha sim, de configurações não
[13:08] <elisboa> capture o hash da senha em /etc/shadow e use o jon para descobri-la
[13:08] <MerliM> elisboa, também é uma alternativa
[13:08] <elisboa> tavinho: 404 = servidor não encontrado
[13:08] <ruffleS> olá, pessoal. minha tela pisca e aparece uma msg de erro durante o boot. alguém sabe como resolver?
[13:08] <Rafanimal_> avá
[13:08] <elisboa> ruffleS: sim. Alguém sabe.
[13:08] <tavinho> elisboa: sim, to ligado....mas como resolver?
[13:08] <MerliM> eu separaria duas e tentaria alterar de uma e replicar na outra porem ai kkk nao sei o caminho das pedras enquanto deixava uma terceira no jonh
[13:09] <elisboa> tavinho: depende da mensagem de erro, né?
[13:09] <MerliM> ruffleS, muito vagoo
[13:09] <elisboa> tavinho: confundi você com o ruffleS, desculpe
[13:09] <elisboa> tavinho: cara, se é site não encontrado, tenta pensar: o que pode ser? será que ele não está com problema pra se conectar com a internet?
[13:10] <teste> boa dica, vou tentar agora a solução do jon. Obrigado galera
[13:10] <elisboa> teste: aqui: http://www.openwall.com/john/
[13:10] <elisboa> ah, já saiu
[13:10] <Rafanimal> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Rafanimal axmcozhkygiq
[13:10] <tavinho> elisboa: a net funciona normal....pensei que poderia ser problema de repositorio..
[13:10] <elisboa> tavinho: então pode ser
[13:10] <faelz> tavinho: qual é sua versão do Ubuntu?
[13:10] <tavinho> 14.10
[13:11] <aedigital> Rafanimal, ui
[13:11] <aedigital> :P
[13:11] <faelz> Leia o tópico
[13:11] <Rafanimal> errei
[13:11] <Rafanimal> uheuheuhuehe
[13:11] <MerliM> elisboa, sempre é assim ahuauha
[13:11] <Rafanimal> faz tanto tempo que nao uso irc..
[13:12] <MerliM> Rafanimal, vxiiii entregando o ouro man
[13:12] <elisboa> tavinho: então, tenta abrir a url do repositório no navegador
[13:12] <aedigital> Rafanimal, eu faziia isto por zuera
[13:12] <elisboa> e vê se funciona
[13:12] <Rafanimal> agora já registrei MerliM, não adianta mais.. auehuaheuaeh
[13:12] <aedigital> jogava uma senha qualquer ae os pelegos ficavam tentando dar ghost
[13:12] <aedigital> no login
[13:12] <aedigital> huahuauahua
[13:12] <Rafanimal> auaheuahuehauehuea
[13:12] <elisboa> aedigital: hahaha
[13:12] <faelz> tavinho: 14.10 descontinuada
[13:12] <elisboa> é uma boa
[13:12] <elisboa> pra ver quem tá mal intencionado.
[13:12] <Rafanimal> época da brasnet
[13:12] <Rafanimal> época do /con/con
[13:12] <elisboa> bons tempos
[13:12] <aedigital> yeap
[13:13] <faelz> tavinho: evita usar versões que não sejam LTS
[13:14] <tavinho> faelz: pode crer...como entao atualizar para o 15.10? tem tipo um 'upgrade'?
[13:14] <Rafanimal> alguém tem o link do t7ds ae?
[13:14] <Rafanimal> heuaheuaheuah
[13:15] <elisboa> Rafanimal: sim. Alguém tem.
[13:15] <Rafanimal> que client vc usam no ubuntu?
[13:15] <Rafanimal> o xchat?
[13:15] <rafael> tavinho: a melhor forma é sempre instalar do zero
[13:15] <rafael> tavinho: faz bkp e depois instala
[13:15] <MerliM> Rafanimal, hexchat
[13:16] <Rafanimal> opa
[13:16] <Rafanimal> vo testar esse
[13:16] <tavinho> boa rafael, obrigado... achei que teria um ez-mode
[13:17] <aedigital> eu toh de xchat
[13:17] <rafael> tavinho: talvez fazendo um do-release-upgrade funcione
[13:18] <Rafanimal> ja volto
[13:20] <tavinho> rafael: nem isso vai..."Nenhuma nova versão encontrada"...vou ver q q rola aqui...valeu!!
[13:20] <Rafanimal> rafael, o problema é que dá erro quando ele tenta dar o apt-get update
[13:20] <Rafanimal> da 404 pra tudo
[13:20] <Rafanimal> o tavinho ..
[13:21] <Rafanimal> acho que tem que trocar os repositorios será?
[13:21] <tavinho> sim ,estou procurando os reps aqui pra ver se rola
[13:35] <Rafanimal> exit
[14:16] <Nomade> Boa tarde eu gostaria de saber como executar o mem test a partir do livecd alguem pode me ajudar?
[14:16] <MerliM> boot livecd tab memtest
[14:16] <MerliM> simples assim
[14:18] <Nomade> então é que aqui na nova versão ele abre o menu direto para instalar ou iniciar eu não achei a opção
[14:18] <aedigital> https://www.google.com.br/search?q=memtest+como+usar&oq=memtest+&aqs=chrome.5.69i57j0l5.8681j0j8&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8
[14:19] <aedigital> se apertar ctrl + alt + f2
[14:19] <aedigital> voce nao consegue um prompt de comando?
[14:19] <Nomade> sim
[14:19] <MerliM> Nomade, nao curto usar memtest com o sistema UP
[14:19] <MerliM> nao
[14:20] <aedigital> e se executa memtest neste prompt de comando?
[14:21] <Nomade> quando digito memtest ele não executa
[14:21] <aedigital> voce loga, neste prompt, digita memtest e nada ocorre?
[14:21] <aedigital> ou aparece alguma msg de erro?
[14:21] <Nomade> Merlin acho que estou com problema na mem por isso ia pelo live cd
[14:22] <Nomade> só que não tem o memteste
[14:23] <aedigital> memtest
[14:23] <aedigital> tem uma resposta no google para algo semelhante
[14:24] <aedigital> pesquisei por ubuntu + memtest + live cd
[14:24] <MerliM> cara baixa o hirens
[14:25] <Nomade> blz vou olhar lá
[14:27] <Nomade> muito obrigado
[14:42] <Elfon> SEXTA-FEIRA TUA LINDA, QUE BOM QUE VOCÊ CHEGOU!!!!
[14:43] <MerliM> Elfon, 13 dia de killar todo mundoo
[14:43] <Elfon> MerliM: tem alguns nomes que seria melhor killar mesmo...hahahah
[15:42] <hggdh> killar??
[15:42] <hggdh> oh tempora
[16:25] <PauloHenriqueNev> alguém ai sabe mexer no firewall do linux o ufw
[16:45] <mirqui> boa tarde
[16:49] <shallwe> mirqui, boa tarde
[16:50] <mirqui> blza , tudo bem?
[16:50] <shallwe> sempre
[16:50] <mirqui> blza , isso que serve , por hoje , aqui meia boca , a mãe está com gripe e febre :(
[16:51] <shallwe> tudo passa :) só ter cuidado
[16:52] <mirqui> sim , verdade
[16:53] <mirqui> e ai , quais são as novas?
[16:55] <shallwe> tudo na mesmo
[16:56] <mirqui> ahaha acontece
[18:30] <shallwe> alguém acompanhou a semana do linux?
[18:30] <shallwe> eu olhei o primeiro dia mas esperava bem mais
[18:31] <shallwe> acho que faltou profissionalismo, assim como sempre falta aqui no Brasil kkkk
[18:32] <aedigital> nem sei do que voce ta falando
[18:32] <aedigital> explica melhor
[18:32] <aedigital> eh artigo de algum jornal?
[18:34] <shallwe> aedigital, http://www.semanadolinux.com.br/
[18:34] <aedigital> xo ver
[18:34] <shallwe> é ta é o primeiro vez deles tudo bem, mas mesmo assim né
[18:35] <aedigital> hummm
[18:38] <aedigital> olha
[18:38] <aedigital> achei ateh bom, ainda mais se considerarmos que eh primeira vez
[18:39] <aedigital> soh pra reunir palestrantes ja eh uma trabalheira enorme
[18:40] <shallwe> sim mas na realidade são pré gravadas não tem nada de mais
[18:40] <shallwe> mas tudo bem, ano que vem vamos ver de novo :)
[18:40] <aedigital> yeah
[18:40] <shallwe> tudo tem que ter uma primeira vez
[18:40] <aedigital> sem duvida
[18:40] <aedigital> e ter coragem e disposicao pra iniciar
[18:40] <aedigital> eh por si soh ja um grande merito
[18:41] <shallwe> sim claro
[18:42] <aedigital> eu mal e mal tenho disposicao pra agitar a minha galera do truco
[18:42] <aedigital> hehehe
[18:44] <shallwe> :)
[18:48] <aedigital> me vou, bom final de semana pra todos
[18:49] <shallwe> valeu boa tarde
[19:20] <Denis__> Boa tarde!
[19:21] <Denis__> estou problema na atualização pelo apt-get update
[19:21] <Denis__> não consigo acessar os repositorios
[19:23] <Denis__> tambem não consigo instalar programas
[19:24] <jaqent> Denis__: qual versão?
[19:30] <Denis__> 14.10
[19:30] <Denis__> aqui é um laboratorio de informatica e nenhuma das maquinas permite fazer a atualização ou instalação
[19:31] <jaqent> talvez seja pq a 14.10 foi descontinuada
[19:32] <Denis__> não tem mais disponibilidade dos repositorios?
[19:32] <Denis__> tenho que migrar para o 15
[19:34] <jaqent> ou voltar para 14.04.3 que é a atual LTS
[19:34] <jaqent> 15.10 tem suporte até Julho do ano que vem
[19:34] <Denis__> ok
[19:35] <Denis__> o melhor seria 14.04.3?
[19:37] <jaqent> Ai é contigo. Tem quem prefira só usar LTS e tem quem prefira ir atualizando sempre
[19:37] <Denis__> blz
[19:37] <Denis__> obrigado então
[19:38] <jaqent> Se vc mudar pro 15.10 ele tem suporte até Julho, só que o 16.04 é pra sair antes do 15.10 ser descontinuado. Então se vc se mantiver indo pra frente não vejo problemas
[20:36] <MerliM> boa tarde preciso fornecer para 1 cliente 10 roteadores wifi com GSM 3g ou 4g já com suporte ao chip, não aqueles com entrada USB pro modem off
[20:36] <MerliM> algueem aqui indica empresa???
[20:36] <MerliM> desculpe o offtopic estou desesperado ja ahuahuah
[21:05] <asdf999> MerliM, no mercado livre com certeza você acha de todos os pre
[21:05] <asdf999> preços
[21:06] <MerliM> asdf999, precisa ser empresa que emite nota fiscal é pro estado
[21:07] <asdf999> acredito que algumas emitem sim nota fiscal, é só perguntar ao vendodor antes de comprar
[21:10] <MerliM> ok gratooo
[21:36] <nuno_nunes> boa noite a todos
[21:36] <nuno_nunes> alguem precisa de suporte
[21:41] <alvaro> precisando de chuva mesmo
[21:41] <jaqent> +1 pra chuva
[21:42] <nuno_nunes> lol
[21:42] <asdf999> jaqent, fica tranquilo, amanhã deus resolve isso
[21:42] <jaqent> asdf999: tomara
[21:42] <alvaro> calor dos infernos
[21:44] <alvaro> onde moro faz mais de ano, que não cai uma chuva de verdade
[21:44] <asdf999> aqui no norte de minas, temperatura agora é de 36 graus
[21:45] <alvaro> a mesma do Triangulo
[21:46] <asdf999> aqui já estamos no racionamento
[21:46] <nuno_nunes> aqui estao 22 graus em pleno outono e andar de camisa
[21:46] <nuno_nunes> :D
[21:47] <asdf999> nuno_nunes, é cidade do porto ?
[21:47] <nuno_nunes> nao
[21:47] <nuno_nunes> em pampilhosa da serra :D
[21:47] <nuno_nunes> portugal nao se resume a porto, lisboa e coimbra :D
[21:48] <asdf999> kkkkkk, verdade
[21:48] <asdf999> mas chove bem ae ?
[21:48] <nuno_nunes> aqui nao chove :S
[21:49] <nuno_nunes> esta sol e calor :D
[21:49] <nuno_nunes> xD
[21:49] <asdf999> racionam agua ae também ?
[21:49] <nuno_nunes> depende
[21:49] <nuno_nunes> :d
[21:49] <jaqent> 22 graus... calor... queria esse calor pra mim :P
[21:49] <asdf999> kkkkkkkkk
[21:50] <nuno_nunes> quando vier o inverno
[21:50] <shallwe> a desculpe vim correndo pq pensei que era alguma dúvida sobre ubuntu :O, desculpe por incomodar vcs :) vou lá jantar
[21:50] <nuno_nunes> chega a temperaturas de 0:D
[21:50] <nuno_nunes> shallwe, queres ajuda :D
[21:50] <jaqent> ele queria ajudar XD
[21:50] <nuno_nunes> eu ajudo no que posso
[21:50] <nuno_nunes> no ubuntu, manjaro
[21:50] <nuno_nunes> :D
[21:50] <nuno_nunes> e debian
[21:50] <jaqent> me arruma um emprego?
[21:50] <nuno_nunes> :D
[21:51] <nuno_nunes> quem
[21:51] <jaqent> nuno_nunes: vc
[21:51] <jaqent> não disse que ajudava?
[21:51] <nuno_nunes> jaqent, se conseguisse para mim era bom :S
[21:51] <asdf999> pra mim também
[21:51] <jaqent> brincadeira XD
[21:51] <nuno_nunes> aqui em portugal esta uma bosta
[21:51] <nuno_nunes> :D
[21:51] <asdf999> kkkkkkkk
[21:51] <nuno_nunes> para trabalhos :|
[21:51] <jaqent> nuno_nunes: eu não acredito em vc.
[21:52] <jaqent> nuno_nunes: me arruma um visto de permanencia pra eu poder conferir :P
[21:52] <asdf999> ae é primeiro mundo
[21:52] <jaqent> nuno_nunes: brincadeira, mas eu até que mudaria pra pt
[21:52] <nuno_nunes> aqui o desemprego já esteve com 1 milhao de desempregados so mais de metade já emigrou
[21:53] <nuno_nunes> o governo obrigou o pessoal a sair de portugal :|
[21:53] <jaqent> Que triste.
[21:53] <asdf999> o salario aé são muito GORDOS
[21:53] <nuno_nunes> aqui o governo esta uma bosta
[21:53] <nuno_nunes> foram deitados abaixo ao fim de 11 dias :S
[21:55] <jaqent> nuno_nunes: falando sério agora, como o pessoal ai leva a situação com os estrangeiros em pt? (específicamente os brasileiros)
[21:55] <nuno_nunes> nao entendi
[21:56] <jaqent> Tem muito estrangeiro ainda trabalhando em portugal? Os portugueses ficam meio de cara com estrangeiro empregado, esse tipo de coisa
[21:57] <nuno_nunes> pois eu ja pessoal brasileiro a sair daqui
[21:57] <nuno_nunes> :D
[21:59] <jaqent> agora eu que não entendi :s
[22:01] <nuno_nunes> pk portugal esta uma treta
[22:01] <nuno_nunes> :|
[22:02] <jaqent> pelo menos vocês tem menos criminalidade/violência
[22:02] <nuno_nunes> tens a certeza
[22:02] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:03] <jaqent> nuno_nunes: confesso que eu tinha mais certeza antes de vc dizer isso
[22:05] <asdf999> se eu for ae eu vou dar um pulo nesse rio tejo e amanhcer tomando cerfeja, kkkkkkkkkkkkk
[22:06] <nuno_nunes> aqui o governo nao se chama governo
[22:07] <nuno_nunes> mas sim desgoverno
[22:07] <nuno_nunes> .|
[22:07] <nuno_nunes> :|
[22:07] <jaqent> nuno_nunes: estamos no mesmo barco nesse aspecto.
[22:08] <asdf999> esse trem de governo está em todo lugar né mano, mas que aé é bem melhor que o brasil com certeza deve ser
[22:10] <asdf999> o apocalici zumbi do crack tem aé também ?
[22:11] <jaqent> asdf999: as vezes é um daqueles casos onde a grama do vizinho sempre parece mais verde.
[22:11] <asdf999> jaqent, kkkkkkkkkkkk
[22:11] <asdf999> verdade
[22:11] <jaqent> embora pra ser sincero se eu tiver a oportunidade eu até vou pra portugal, nem que seja só pra trocar o cenário e ficar mais ou menos com os mesmos problemas
[22:12] <asdf999> jaqent, correto mano
[22:14] <jaqent> vc viram que rolou um atentado terrorista na frança agora de pouco?
[22:15] <asdf999> vi não mano
[22:16] <asdf999> ouve mortos ?
[22:17] <jaqent> se não me engano são 18 confirmados até agora
[22:18] <jaqent> Foi um ataque com metralhadora e depois uma explosão no estadio que ia ter um amistoso da copa. (ops acabaram de falar 15 mortos no jornal)
[22:19] <asdf999> cara**o mano
[22:19] <asdf999> o trem tá brabo então
[22:20] <jaqent> né
[22:21] <jaqent> deveria ter um #ubuntu-br-offtopic
[22:21] <jaqent> :P
[22:22] <asdf999> kkkkkkkkkk
[22:24] <jaqent> olha só um ponto positivo no Brasil em relação com a Europa.
[22:24] <jaqent> Ainda não temos ataques terroristas
[22:25] <asdf999> verdade
[22:25] <asdf999> mas até temos sim
[22:25] <asdf999> lá no senado e na camera é atentado todo dia
[22:26] <asdf999> atentado contra o povo
[22:29] <jaqent> Ta vendo só como um canal offtopic faz falta :P
[22:29] <asdf999> kkkkkkkkkk
[22:30] <barna> jaqent, ##ubuntu-br-offtopic
[22:30] <asdf999> barna, tú é o diretor de marketing aqui do freenode ?
[22:31] <barna> ele existe a uns 5 anos, antes era o ##ubuntu-br mas só entrava quem era registrado na freenode. por isso criamos esse.
[22:31] <jaqent> eu quase acertei o nome do canal sem querer kkkkkkk
[22:31] <asdf999> brincadeira
[22:32] <barna> hehehehehehehehehe
[22:32] <jaqent> mas é bom, assim da pra falar sem bagunçar o canal de suporte
[22:32] <barna> o ##ubuntu-br ainda existe, mas num sei se tem q ser registrado pra entrar.
[22:33] <barna> sempre to num papo off aki e aparece alguem pedindo suporte migro pra ele. ajuda D++++
[22:34] <jaqent> asdf999: quer continuar o papo em um deles?
[22:34] <asdf999> vamo, abre aé um canal
[22:34] <jaqent> o ##ubuntu-br-offtopic
[22:47] <shallwe> será que posso depois do ubuntu estar instalado redimensionar minha partição do ubuntu?
[22:48] <barna> shallwe, partição do / ?
[22:48] <shallwe> barna, sim
[22:48] <barna> shallwe, sim, mas vai mudar o UUID dela, vc tem q arrumar o fstab
[22:48] <asdf999> shallwe, com gparted em livecd voce consegue
[22:49] <shallwe> asdf999, sim fazer eu sei, mas uma vez fiz e não entrou mais no ubuntu kkk
[22:49] <asdf999> procura no youtube como usar o gparted
[22:49] <shallwe> barna, vou tentar como vc disse
[22:49] <barna> exato shallwe pq o fstab não vai mais achar o caminho da partição pra montar
[22:50] <barna> entra pelo live, monta a partição do / e muda o UUID dela
[22:50] <shallwe> mas boa valeu, vou dar uma pesquisada no fstab redimencionamento ubuntu
[22:50] <barna> é simples, faço isso sempre aki
[22:51] <barna> shallwe, no gparted em informações da partição ele mostra o UUID dela
[22:51] <shallwe> barna, valeu :)
[22:51] <asdf999> execute um ls -lat /dev/disk/by-uuid
[22:53] <shallwe> vou tentar, valeu :)
[23:01] <nuno_nunes> alguem precisa de ajuda
[23:09] <hggdh> só para referencia *existe* o canal #ubuntu-br-offtopic
[23:11] <nuno_nunes> ok
[23:11] <nuno_nunes> :)
[23:28] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[23:30] <Camila> olá
[23:30] <astroo-> ola
[23:31] <Guest55128> preciso de ajuda, gostaria de saber como fazer para instalar ubuntu
[23:31] <Guest55128> baixei o arquivo
[23:31] <Guest55128> mas não cosigo executar
[23:31] <Guest55128> meu computador fica abrindo ele como imagem
[23:31] <barna> Guest55128, como q vc ta tentando "executar" ele?
[23:32] <Guest55128> estou clicando duas vezes nele para abrir
[23:32] <barna> ok.
[23:32] <asdf999> Guest55128, procura no youtube como instalar ubuntu via pendriver
[23:32] <barna> Guest55128, qual o seu conhecimento sobre informatica?
[23:32] <Guest55128> zero
[23:33] <barna> Guest55128, ok, vou tentar ser simples. o ubuntu é um sistema operacional completo.
[23:33] <Guest55128> certo!
[23:33] <barna> Guest55128, vc não "instala" ele dentro do windows, vc instala ele no computador.
[23:34] <Guest55128> ok!
[23:35] <barna> Guest55128, então vc tem q grava a iso dentro de um pendrive ou dvd e iniciar o computador apartir dele.
[23:35] <barna> Guest55128, o ubuntu funciona em modo Live, ou seja, sem instalar ou modificar nada no seu computador.
[23:36] <barna> se vc descidir usar de verdade o ubuntu, vc pode instala-lo no computador sem tirar o windows, e na hora q vc ligar o computador ele vai te perguntar qual dos 2 sistemas operacionais vc quer usar.
[23:37] <Guest55128> ah que bom!
[23:38] <barna> Guest55128, no youtube vc acho varios tutoriais de como instalar, é bem simples, a unica parte mais "chata" é o particionamento do hd.
[23:38] <barna> e qualquer duvida estamos aki.
[23:38] <Guest55128> vou gravar o arquivo que baixei no pendrive então e aí reinicio o computador, certo?
[23:38] <barna> Guest55128, quase
[23:39] <barna> vc tem q usar um programa pra isso. ou saber fazer na unha. só gravar o arquivo dentro não vai fazer o computador dar boot por ele.
[23:39] <barna> eu uso o unetbootin (podem chingar)
[23:39] <Guest55128> eu quero usar só ubuntu no computador
[23:40] <Guest55128> n quero o windows mais, então n precisa de repartir o hd
[23:40] <barna> Guest55128, vc pode apagar tudo que tem dentro dele?
[23:43] <Guest55128> sim, ja salvei tudo de importante num pendrive
[23:44] <barna> Guest55128, então manda ver, bem no começo da instalação ele vai te dar a opção de apagar o disco todo e instalar o ubuntu.
[23:44] <barna> ai o sistema que te pergunta qual q vc quer ligar vai ficar oculto, vai ligar direto no ubuntu, ele só aparece se vc tiver mais de um sistema instalado.
[23:45] <Guest55128> ok
[23:45] <Guest55128> no site eu baixei o Baixar Ubuntu 14.10 Desktop (amd64)
[23:45] <Guest55128> é esse mesmo né?
[23:46] <barna> nops, 14.10 foi descontinuado.
[23:46] <barna> Guest55128, te aconselho o 14.04 q é LTS
[23:46] <astroo-> diz que ram tens
[23:46] <barna> ja volto.
[23:46] <Guest55128> ram?
[23:46] <barna> 10min
[23:46] <astroo-> memoria
[23:47] <Guest55128> como posso saber isso?
[23:47] <astroo-> pelo fabricante do pc ou no arranque do pc
[23:47] <asdf999> Guest55128, te aconselho antes procurar por aulas sobre linux no youtube
[23:48] <Guest55128> ok, vou ver isso
[23:49] <asdf999> é coisa facil para aprender
[23:49] <Guest55128> n consigo baixar esse 14.04 q vc faliu
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[04:15] <pitti> Good morning
[04:26] <TheMuso> Morning pitti. :)
[04:32] <pitti> hey TheMuso!
[04:38] <pitti> Laney: FYI, I sent an RT for bos01 which burst into flames
[05:30] <hikiko> hello
[05:34] <didrocks> good morning
[05:43] <hikiko> Good morning didrocks
[05:50] <didrocks> hey hikiko, how are you?
[06:43] <darkxst> hey pitti, didrocks hikiko
[06:44] <didrocks> good evening darkxst
[06:48] <darkxst> didrocks, not really, spent the afternoon fighting with gdm3, but it is done now ;)
[06:48] <darkxst> the migration stuff was a pita, but should work
[06:50] <didrocks> darkxst: I guess you will be happy once this is really built and tested on a wider scale :)
[06:54] <darkxst> didrocks, well I would be more happy if I could find a graceful way to upgrade gdm daemon without breaking the lock screen, but that seems to be a general issue, not related to the merge
[06:57] <hikiko> hey pitti darkxst
[06:58] <didrocks> did I missed pitti? I didn't see him saying hi here :p
[06:58] <didrocks> ah, it was before I joined :)
[06:58] <didrocks> darkxst: how are you breaking the lock screen?
[06:58] <darkxst> didrocks, pitti is always up early!
[06:59] <pitti> hey hikiko and darkxst!
[06:59] <pitti> ça va didrocks !
[06:59] <didrocks> yeah, 6:30 is already early
[06:59] <darkxst> didrocks, the auth channel between gdm and gnome-shell is quite fragile
[06:59] <didrocks> I don't want to get up at 5:30 just to beat him :)
[06:59] <darkxst> I suspect that is part of the reason fedora forces updates to delay until reboot
[06:59] <didrocks> pitti: ça va, et toi ? :)
[06:59] <pitti> oui, je ne pouvais plus dormir, j'ai me léve à 4:30 à nouveau :(
[06:59] <pitti> didrocks: je vais bien, merci !
[06:59] <didrocks> pitti: argh :/
[07:00] <didrocks> darkxst: ah, you meant, breaking for the session until reboot?
[07:00] <didrocks> darkxst: or then, for each gdm update?
[07:00] <darkxst> didrocks, after a gdm update, you can't unlock it
[07:00] <darkxst> and yea just until reboot
[07:01] <didrocks> argh, but for each update?
[07:01] <didrocks> that's quite ackward, indeed
[07:12] <darkxst> didrocks, I don't know if it happens on 100% of updates, but its been happening atleast sometimes for a while now
[07:13] <darkxst> and sometimes its gnome-shell loosing the auth channel, which is recoverable, but not by a normal user
[07:20] <didrocks> pitti: waow, I didn't know that python gettext was assuming ascii for encoding
[07:20] <pitti> didrocks: ?
[07:20] <pitti> didrocks: neither did I, and it certainly shoudln't?
[07:20] <pitti> >>> gettext.gettext('ça va ♥')
[07:21] <pitti> 'ça va ♥'
[07:21] <didrocks> https://docs.python.org/3/library/gettext.html
[07:21] <didrocks> "If the charset encoding is specified, then all message ids and message strings read from the catalog are converted to Unicode using this encoding, else ASCII encoding is assumed.
[07:21] <pitti> or do you mean for matching strings in .mo files?
[07:21] <didrocks> "
[07:21] <didrocks> pitti: I have some _("") returning in a language that returns me some UnicodeEncodeError
[07:21] <didrocks> the typical *** UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character '\xe3' in position 5: ordinal not in range(128)
[07:23] <pitti> uh, so this would be lgettext() then or bind_textdomain_codeset()?
[07:24] <pitti> why on earth doesn't that default to $LC_CTYPE
[07:24] <didrocks> pitti: yeah, seems that's what I need, I would like to understand exactly what's going on before adding it though
[07:24] <didrocks> (I just bind_textdomain for now)
[07:28] <pitti> do you have a small reproducer for this?
[07:30] <pitti> $ python3 -c 'import gettext, locale; print(locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL, "")); gettext.textdomain("gtk30"); print(gettext.gettext("Add a class"))'
[07:30] <pitti> de_DE.UTF-8
[07:30] <pitti> Eine Klasse hinzufügen
[07:30] <didrocks> pitti: no, well… I can reproduce it in one command in Ubuntu Make
[07:31] <didrocks> but yeah, I should do something wrong I guess…
[07:31] <pitti> if I run this under LC_CTYPE=C it indeed fails with UnicodeEncodeError, but that's to be expected
[07:31] <didrocks> yeah
[07:31] <pitti> with LC_CTYPE=C.UTF-8 it works
[07:31] <didrocks> can be as well the .mo file which is wrong for that lang
[07:32] <didrocks> "Eu não aceito" is what it doesn't like in PT_br
[07:32] <pitti> .po files specify their own content encoding, but if it's wrong it might not match indeed
[07:33] <didrocks> but "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n"
[07:33] <didrocks> so sounds good…
[07:34] <didrocks> I initialize gettext in https://github.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-make/blob/master/umake/__init__.py#L32
[07:35] <didrocks> and the failure is when I print the "I don't accept" pt_BR translation set in https://github.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-make/blob/master/umake/__init__.py#L32
[07:35] <pitti> didrocks: your setlocale() call is someplace else?
[07:37] <didrocks> pitti: I never called setlocale
[07:37] <didrocks> it's using LANGUAGE=, right?
[07:37] <pitti> didrocks: if set, yes
[07:37] <pitti> $ python3 -c 'import gettext; gettext.textdomain("gtk30"); print(gettext.gettext("Add a class"))'
[07:37] <pitti> Eine Klasse hinzufügen
[07:37] <pitti> indeed that works too
[07:37] * didrocks reads http://www.wefearchange.org/2012/06/the-right-way-to-internationalize-your.html
[07:38] <pitti> I thought one had to call setlocale(); one must do in C, but perhaps python does it automagically
[07:39] <didrocks> yeah, I never needed to in python contrary to C
[07:39] <didrocks> (and the doc list the env variables that it's using)
[07:40] <pitti> $ python3 -c 'import locale; print(locale.getlocale())'
[07:40] <pitti> ('de_DE', 'UTF-8')
[07:40] <pitti> indeed
[07:40] <pitti> $ python -c 'import locale; print(locale.getlocale())'
[07:40] <pitti> (None, None)
[07:40] <pitti> hah
[07:41] <pitti> so that's new in py3
[07:41] <pitti> $ python -c 'import gettext, locale; print(locale.getlocale()); gettext.textdomain("gtk30"); print(gettext.gettext("Add a class"))'
[07:41] <pitti> (None, None)
[07:41] <pitti> Eine Klasse hinzufügen
[07:41] <pitti> so that works only because py2 blissfully ignores all the encoding stuff
[07:42] <didrocks> after reading barry's blog post, seems like I'm doing the right thing in python3…
[07:42] <didrocks> as gettext is returning unicode there…
[07:50] <didrocks> pitti: ok, I have a small reproducer, are you on xenial?
[07:50] <pitti> didrocks: yes; is there anything else? :-)
[07:50] <didrocks> ahah :)
[07:51] <didrocks> so apt install ubuntu-make
[07:51] <didrocks> (to get the .mo file)
[07:51] <didrocks> LANGUAGE=pt_BR python3 -c "import gettext; gettext.textdomain('ubuntu-make'); print(gettext.gettext('I don\'t accept'))"
[07:52] <pitti> so I'll install ubuntu-make and language-pack-{gnome-,}pt in a schroot
[07:53] <didrocks> pitti: I don't think you need other langpacks, but yeah
[07:54] <didrocks> hum
[07:54] <didrocks> LANGUAGE=pt_BR python3 -c 'import sys; print (sys.stdout.encoding)'
[07:54] <didrocks> ANSI_X3.4-1968
[07:54] <pitti> $ LANGUAGE=pt_BR python3 -c 'import sys; print (sys.stdout.encoding)'
[07:54] <pitti> UTF-8
[07:54] <pitti> on my desktop
[07:54] <pitti> in the schroot it says ANSI_X3.4-1968 (i. e. "ascii")
[07:54] <didrocks> getting that on my clean shell
[07:54] <didrocks> when changing only LANGUAGE
[07:55] <pitti> because my other LC_* are unset in the schroot
[07:55] <didrocks> ahah
[07:55] <pitti> didrocks: what does your "locale" say?
[07:55] <didrocks> LANG=pt_BR.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=pt_BR python3 -c 'import sys; print (sys.stdout.encoding)'
[07:55] <pitti> for LC_CTYPE in particular
[07:55] <didrocks> pitti: ^
[07:55] <pitti> LANGUAGE does not set any LC* or encoding, it's just for picking a language
[07:55] <didrocks> (well, I just use env variables, so locale returns the french LC="fr_FR.UTF-8")
[07:55] <pitti> unlike LANG which is an entire locale
[07:56] <didrocks> LC_ALL is empty though
[07:56] <pitti> that's fine
[07:56] <pitti> if you have $LANG it's the defualt for LC_*
[07:56] <pitti> most people have only $LANG or $LANG+$LANGUAGE
[07:56] <didrocks> yeah, so the issue happens when I set LANG= in addition to LANGUAGE
[07:56] <didrocks> LANG=pt_BR.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=pt_BR python3 -c 'import sys; print (sys.stdout.encoding)'
[07:56] <didrocks> ANSI_X3.4-1968
[07:56] <pitti> $ LANG=pt_BR.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=pt_BR python3 -c 'import sys; print (sys.stdout.encoding)'
[07:56] <pitti> UTF-8
[07:56] <pitti> in my schroot
[07:57] <didrocks> pitti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13245981/
[07:57] <pitti> didrocks: oh! may it be that you don't actually have the pt_BR.UTF-8 locale?
[07:57] <pitti> didrocks: locale -a ?
[07:57] <didrocks> oh right, I don't have it installed
[07:57] <pitti> there you are :)
[07:58] <pitti> language-pack-{gnome-,}pt
[07:58] <didrocks> so, you think that issue happens for people not installing the locale?
[07:58] <didrocks> and so, sys.stdout.encoding returns ANSI_X3.4-1968
[07:58] <didrocks> instead of UTF-8
[07:58] <didrocks> (there is a default encoding by locale?)
[07:59] <pitti> right; "LANG=pt_BR.UTF-8 locale" should complain loudly
[07:59] <pitti> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[07:59] <pitti> etc.
[07:59] <pitti> $ LANGUAGE=pt_BR LANG=pt_BR.UTF-8 python3 -c "import gettext; gettext.textdomain('ubuntu-make'); print(gettext.gettext('I don\'t accept'))"
[07:59] <pitti> Eu não aceito
[07:59] <pitti> didrocks: but that shouldn't be possible to do with the GUI -- you can only select locales if you installed the langpack
[08:00] <didrocks> pitti: I still don't get why python doesn't take thus the encoding from LANG…
[08:00] <pitti> so perhaps people who manualy set it
[08:00] <pitti> didrocks: because it doesn't know which encoding that is
[08:00] <pitti> if the locale isn't installed
[08:00] <didrocks> isn't what the .UTF-8 from LANG= is about?
[08:00] <pitti> the ".UTF8" is just part of a name
[08:00] <didrocks> ah
[08:00] <pitti> an identifier for humans
[08:01] <pitti> e. g. aa_ET is also UTF-8
[08:01] <didrocks> ok, so a way to avoid crashing on those condition would be to force my own encoding?
[08:01] <didrocks> as I know my .mo files are UTF-8 encoded
[08:01] <didrocks> ah no, the issue is in the print()
[08:02] <pitti> correct
[08:02] <pitti> didrocks: I'd suggest calling locale.setlocale()
[08:02] <pitti> $ LANG=pt_BR.UTF-8 python3 -c 'import gettext, locale; print(locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL, ""))'
[08:02] <pitti> locale.Error: unsupported locale setting
[08:02] <pitti> and only if that succeeds you set a text domain
[08:03] <pitti> that might be the most elegant way
[08:03] <pitti> if the env specifies an invalid/broken/missing locale, it just uses C
[08:03] <didrocks> yeah, so fallbacking to C…
[08:03] <pitti> so:
[08:03] <pitti> try:
[08:04] <pitti> locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL, '')
[08:04] <pitti> gettext.textdomain(...)
[08:04] <pitti> except locale.Error:
[08:04] <pitti> # maybe print some warning
[08:04] <pitti> pass
[08:04] <didrocks> yeah
[08:04] <pitti> yay for my perfect indentation this morning!
[08:04] <didrocks> ahah good enough :)
[08:04] <didrocks> let me still confirm that's the issue on the bug report
[08:05] <didrocks> but I'll add that anyway, good way of protecting myself
[08:05] <didrocks> thanks a lot for looking at it pitti!
[08:05] * didrocks hugs you
[08:05] <pitti> didrocks: je t'en prie !
[08:05] * didrocks is quite happy that wasn't so straightforward :)
[08:39] <hikiko> Trevinho, unity has compile errors...
[08:40] <hikiko> bamf_matcher_get_application_for_xid_matcher
[08:44] <hikiko> Trevinho, first error: /home/eleni/canonical/staging/unity/unity-shared/BamfApplicationManager.cpp: In member function ‘void unity::bamf::Application::UpdateWindows()’:
[08:44] <hikiko> /home/eleni/canonical/staging/unity/unity-shared/BamfApplicationManager.cpp:427:43: error: ‘bamf_view_’ is not a member of ‘unity::bamf’
[08:44] <hikiko> for (GList* l = bamf_view_peek_children(bamf::bamf_view_); l; l = l->next) :s
[08:45] <hikiko> sorry
[08:45] <hikiko> wrong paste
[08:45] <hikiko> /home/eleni/canonical/staging/unity/unity-shared/BamfApplicationManager.cpp: In member function ‘void unity::bamf::Application::UpdateWindows()’:
[08:45] <hikiko> /home/eleni/canonical/staging/unity/unity-shared/BamfApplicationManager.cpp:427:53: error: ‘bamf_view_peek_children’ was not declared in this scope
[08:45] <hikiko> for (GList* l = bamf_view_peek_children(bamf_view_); l; l = l->next)
[08:45] <hikiko> that's the 1st error
[08:46] <hikiko> mmm now I look at it I should use a pastebin :p
[08:56] <willcooke> morning all
[08:57] <didrocks> morning willcooke
[09:01] <Laney> hey hey
[09:02] <Laney> pitti: bos01> oh dear
[09:02] <darkxst> hey willcooke, Laney
[09:02] <Laney> hi darkxst
[09:03] <Laney> oh man, still no phonon fix!
[09:06] <didrocks> hey Laney! :)
[09:06] <didrocks> Laney is up before seb128, this guy is really back on his French schedule after a week :p
[09:06] <pitti> hey Laney
[09:07] <pitti> Laney: pitti, the breaker of all clouds..
[09:08] <willcooke> qengho, For the last couple of days Cr. has added another icon to the launcher when running and the original just launcher yet another Cr.
[09:08] <willcooke> *launches
[09:12] <Laney> howdy didrocks
[09:15] <didrocks> good good, had some nice interesting python encodeissue this morning :)
[09:16] <didrocks> and fixed bad translations in pt_BR, making Make failure
[09:16] <didrocks> failing*
[09:16] <didrocks> + my first Atom.io contribution \o/
[09:16] <didrocks> and it's Friday :p
[09:16] <willcooke> congrats didrocks
[09:17] <didrocks> thx ;)
[09:21] <Trevinho> Ouch, irc didn't connect... But morning
[09:21] <willcooke> qengho, but removing the old icon and readding sorts it
[09:21] <willcooke> hey Trevinho
[09:21] <Trevinho> hi willcooke
[09:22] <willcooke> Trevinho, sounds like the can find us some real hardware for U7 testing on Intel, nVidida, AMD
[09:22] <willcooke> \o/
[09:22] <Trevinho> willcooke: this is cool!
[09:22] <seb128> re desktopers
[09:22] <Trevinho> willcooke: even just intel would be fine for me... But still
[09:22] <willcooke> :)
[09:22] <Trevinho> the more the better
[09:25] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1512290/comments/8
[09:25] <Laney> this guy is CORRECT!
[09:25] <seb128> FAIL
[09:25] <seb128> laarrsssuuu
[09:27] <seb128> do we tag bug #1515810 as a gtk 318 issue?
[09:27] <seb128> it's not really
[09:27] <seb128> but I think we said we need to teach gtk to have a flag for that?
[09:28] <Laney> that or rls
[09:28] <Laney> should triage the -incoming bugs btw
[09:28] <Laney> does anyone plan to do that?
[09:29] <willcooke> Seems like something that needs more that just one person to go through it
[09:30] <willcooke> so, hangout on Monday?
[09:30] <pitti> Laney: meh, they fixed bos01 this morning, but seems it's just dying again
[09:30] <Laney> pitti: oh I just assumed it wasn't fixed yet
[09:30] <seb128> well, we need one person to approve nominations
[09:30] <seb128> seems a job for a manager ;-)
[09:31] <Laney> willcooke: are you in the right team to do bug nominations?
[09:31] <seb128> but I'm happy to help triaging the list
[09:31] <willcooke> how do I check Laney?
[09:31] <pitti> Laney: at least it held up for some two hours which reduced the queue quite a bit
[09:33] <seb128> willcooke, you try to nominate a bug
[09:33] <Laney> willcooke: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/1286878
[09:33] <Laney> do you have "Nominate for series"?
[09:33] <seb128> "Target to series"
[09:33] <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/1286878/+nominate
[09:33] <seb128> do you have access to ^
[09:34] * seb128 bets he doesn't
[09:34] <Laney> well that's what you need to triage the list
[09:34] <willcooke> I can nominate
[09:34] <seb128> right, I'm not saying he shouldn't
[09:34] <seb128> you can? good !
[09:35] <Laney> nominate but not approve
[09:35] <seb128> well, can you approve nominations ? or just suggest those ?
[09:35] <Laney> or target but not nominate
[09:35] <Laney> whatever the stupid terminlogy is
[09:36] <seb128> Laney, bug #1512290 should be verification-failed if there is a regression, no?
[09:36] <Laney> probably if it makes the thing crash
[09:36] <willcooke> seb128, Laney - Don't think I can approve
[09:36] <Laney> willcooke: are you in bug control?
[09:36] <Laney> can't remember if that lets you actually approve them
[09:36] <seb128> no it doesn't
[09:36] <Laney> what does then?
[09:36] <seb128> you need to be in ubuntu-drivers I think
[09:37] <seb128> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-drivers
[09:37] <seb128> or https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release-nominators
[09:37] <seb128> that's part of the drivers
[09:37] <willcooke> qengho, but now "open link in browser" from xchat opens a new Cr. window and doesn't load the page
[09:38] <seb128> infinity is admin of that group
[09:38] <seb128> willcooke, maybe ask to be added there?
[09:38] <seb128> ~ubuntu-release-nominators that is
[09:38] <willcooke> seb128, will do. thx
[09:39] * Laney checked with #launchpad, but probably
[09:40] <willcooke> oki, so Laney seb128 - you guys (and others) will nominate and then I will approve them?
[09:40] <seb128> +1
[09:40] <willcooke> Guess I can nominate too right?
[09:40] <seb128> yes
[09:40] <willcooke> cool
[09:41] <seb128> I usually do approve things as well
[09:41] <willcooke> great
[09:41] <seb128> I think I'm going to keep doing that for obvious things
[09:41] <seb128> but let me know if you prefer be doing those
[09:41] <Laney> wait what?
[09:42] <willcooke> oki, I will take a pass of the list on Monday, or once I am a member, which ever is later and then we can sync up afterwards
[09:42] <Laney> I can't only nominate, it approves them right away
[09:45] <didrocks> yeah, if you have rights (that every ubuntu core devs do), it will approve right away
[09:45] <seb128> didrocks, I don't think it's coredevs
[09:46] <seb128> it's ubuntu-drivers afaik
[09:46] <didrocks> seb128: well, I can approve for sure, and I'm not in any of the 2 teams
[09:46] <Laney> nah it's uploading permissions + drivers
[09:46] <Laney> I think
[09:46] <didrocks> yeah
[09:46] <seb128> didrocks, you are not in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-drivers ?
[09:46] <didrocks> nope
[09:46] <seb128> I'm in through UDS organiser
[09:46] * Laney not
[09:46] <seb128> k
[09:46] <Laney> that is some magic team
[09:46] <seb128> launchpad permissions are weird
[09:46] <didrocks> yeah
[09:46] <seb128> and ~ubuntu-release-nominators is misleading then
[09:47] <Laney> it's an extra group on top of the uploaders
[09:47] <Laney> for this kind of case
[09:47] <didrocks> funny that some people are in that team where they are less involved in ubuntu than uploaders btw :p
[09:48] <seb128> yeah, that can makes sense though
[09:48] <seb128> people defining quality and goals and not all doing technical work
[09:48] <didrocks> random canonical upstreams?
[09:48] <didrocks> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release-nominators/+members#active
[09:48] <seb128> like Pat is driving the touch product and dealing with bugs and targets but he's not packaging
[09:49] <didrocks> that list is really weird…
[09:49] <seb128> yeah, agreed on that
[09:49] <seb128> but like having QA might make sense
[09:49] <seb128> if we trust them to define the quality goals
[09:49] <seb128> random individuals less so
[09:49] <didrocks> for those yeah, not telling everyone in that list doesn't make sense
[09:49] <didrocks> but a good part of individuals is weird
[09:50] <Laney> that "Will" "Cooke"
[09:50] <Laney> who even is he?
[09:51] <didrocks> exactly!
[09:51] <seb128> but we don't even know if that team is actually used
[09:51] <seb128> since we are not member of it and have access to the nominations
[09:51] <seb128> so it is a least not a direct mapping
[10:02] <Laney> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/devel/view/head:/lib/lp/bugs/model/bugnomination.py#L120
[10:02] <Laney> uploader + driver
[10:02] <seb128> k
[10:02] <seb128> thanks Laney!
[10:03] <Laney> np!
[10:03] <Laney> seb128: what do you think about demoting phonon-backend-vlc auralquiz?
[10:04] <seb128> does it mean mitya57 and slangasek failed at getting at the bottom for the phonon issues?
[10:04] * seb128 reads IRC backlog from the night
[10:04] <Laney> some patches but he didn't upload...
[10:25] * Laney tries them
[10:25] <seb128> them? the patches?
[10:26] <Laney> ye
[10:26] <seb128> I was about to do the demotion
[10:26] <seb128> should I still hit enter? ;-)
[10:26] <seb128> we can fix up things later on
[10:26] <Laney> I assumed silence was no :P
[10:26] <Laney> do it if you're happy
[10:27] <willcooke> Laney, seb128 - is this the list I should work from? http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-x-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[10:27] <Laney> yep
[10:27] <willcooke> thx
[10:27] <seb128> +1
[10:27] * willcooke blocks out some hours
[10:27] <Laney> probably wait until you're in the team so you don't have to do get us to pres butan
[10:27] <seb128> Laney, sorry I was in another discussions so delayed the demotions a bit
[10:27] <Laney> willcooke: rls-x-notfixing is the "we don't commit to this" tag
[10:28] <willcooke> got it
[10:28] <willcooke> ta
[10:28] <Laney> so either way they get out of the incoming list
[10:28] <seb128> Laney, ok, demoted
[10:28] <willcooke> oh, good news... seems my details weren't amongst those lifted in the TalkTalk hack
[10:28] <seb128> eventually we are going to hit the other side
[10:29] <seb128> Rejected:
[10:29] <seb128> phonon-backend-vlc 0.8.2-1ubuntu1 in xenial (version older than the phonon-backend-vlc 0.8.2-1ubuntu2 in xenial published in xenial)
[10:29] <seb128> shrug
[10:29] <seb128> I don't understand the demote tool
[10:29] <seb128> why does it try to upload non current versions?
[10:30] <Laney> seb128: new package in proposed, just remove from release
[10:30] <seb128> done
[10:30] <Laney> nice
[10:30] <Laney> you (maybe) got to do the last action
[10:31] * seb128 takes a bigger hammer in case it's needed
[10:31] <Laney> we have the "force" hint ;-)
[10:31] <seb128> transition weeks are so much fun
[10:31] <Laney> that gets you sacked from the release team though
[10:31] <seb128> haha
[10:32] <seb128> would be nice to get that done today
[10:32] <Laney> indeed
[10:32] <Laney> ah good job gtk is blocked
[10:33] <Laney> seems .3 broke some stuff
[10:33] * Laney looks at .4
[10:33] <seb128> yeah, cf my comment yesterday evening just after you left :p
[10:33] <seb128> binding booog
[10:36] <Laney> looks like it all happened at the same time
[10:36] <Laney> like the upstream commits were after I made the package and -3 was just around the same time I uploaded it
[10:36] <Laney> doh doh doh dohd ohdodhodh
[10:39] <czajkowski> Laney: happy friday eh :)
[10:39] <seb128> hey czajkowski! how are you?
[10:48] <seb128> Sweet5hark, hey, could you have a look to bug #1515761 ?
[10:48] <seb128> just to check if it's a regression or just a local/one user thing?
[10:50] <Sweet5hark> seb128: /me reads
[10:50] <seb128> thanks
[10:50] <larsu> Laney: is bug #1512290 the one you mentioned in the tg group?
[10:50] <seb128> larsu, hey again ;-) and yes
[10:50] <Laney> larsu: yeah, I assigned it to you
[10:50] <Laney> sorry :(
[10:50] <Laney> and hey!
[10:50] <Laney> good gym?
[10:50] <seb128> how was the gym today ?
[10:53] <larsu> exhausting!
[10:53] * larsu feels very good now :)
[10:56] <Laney> sweet
[11:03] <larsu> pitti: ugh, that MR is the worst
[11:03] <pitti> larsu: the unbreak-my-desktop brightness thing?
[11:03] <pitti> yeah -- this is a kernel/driver issue, not a "let's bikeshed with user settings between off and low"
[11:04] <larsu> ya. Thanks for taking a strong stance against it
[11:04] <pitti> userspace should use the brightness range that the driver offers
[11:04] * larsu will pile on
[11:04] <larsu> pitti: clearly
[11:06] <larsu> pitti: also, that MR doesn't add the key to gsettings?!
[11:06] <larsu> or is that in deskto-schemas or similar?
[11:06] <pitti> larsu: maybe, I didn't bother to read that far
[11:07] <pitti> this is conceptually wrong, I see little point in discussing the implementation
[11:07] <larsu> ya, of course
[11:07] <Laney> this person works for us...
[11:07] <larsu> no point in reviewing
[11:07] <larsu> old habit
[11:07] <larsu> "oh ... a diff"
[11:07] <Laney> why not come to ask before writing code?
[11:07] <pitti> well, feel free :)
[11:07] <pitti> but if anything we already have too many settings..
[11:08] <seb128> why is the mr emailing the desktop list?
[11:08] <Laney> haha
[11:08] <Laney> so many avenues for discussion
[11:08] <pitti> I set ubuntu-desktop as a reviewer -- bad/wrong team?
[11:08] <pitti> I nacked the patch, but said I'm not the ultimate naysayer, and that it's the desktop team's decision
[11:08] <seb128> unsure we have a team better fit
[11:08] <Laney> it caused people to notice it
[11:08] <pitti> sorry for the spam then
[11:09] * Laney stabs publisher
[11:09] <seb128> no worry
[11:09] <Laney> hurry up
[11:09] <seb128> it might be good in fact
[11:09] <seb128> getting some activity on the list ;-)
[11:09] <pitti> I think as soon as anyone in the team acks or nacks the team reviewer goes back to that individual
[11:09] <larsu> seb128: lol
[11:09] <seb128> pitti, be +1 your nack in this case, good call! :-)
[11:10] <seb128> larsu, btw how high is the nautilus menus thing on your todo? we should probably get that and the new geo lib landed in the next weeks if we can
[11:10] <seb128> big changes early in the cycle
[11:10] <seb128> then we can collect feedback and deal with bugs
[11:11] <seb128> wdyt?
[11:11] <larsu> highest on my list is wording a comment that doesn't sound too harsh
[11:11] <larsu> seb128: but seriously: yes.
[11:12] <seb128> cool
[11:12] <seb128> larsu, sorry it feels like you got quite some pings/stuff dumped this week
[11:12] <larsu> no worries
[11:12] * seb128 hugs larsu
[11:12] * larsu hugs EVERYONE
[11:13] <seb128> almost the w.e don't worry, we can all relax ;-)
[11:13] * Laney is going to a big family party for Rosie's family
[11:13] <Laney> not sure this is going to be relaxing :P
[11:14] <pitti> Laney: uh, I don't like these much
[11:16] <seb128> Laney, well, maybe entertaining then? :p
[11:16] <seb128> in any case good luck!
[11:16] <Laney> it's some kind of wedding party but not an actual wedding
[11:16] * Laney doesn't really know
[11:16] <Laney> maybe free food & wine :)
[11:16] <Laney> and I get to go to Norwich which is always nice
[11:17] <Laney> also it appears I have 3 more days of holiday to burn before the end of the year
[11:17] <Laney> BYE GUYS!
[11:18] <seb128> oh, I should probably look at those as well
[11:19] <seb128> I've been good and took 15 days to go to Scottland but I still have like 8 days left
[11:19] <Laney> ya so 8-5 = 3
[11:19] <Laney> Henry Days
[11:20] <seb128> hehe
[11:21] <pitti> the hr.c.c one probably tries to be clever, but the accrual still confuses me a lot
[11:21] <seb128> I don't really understand what thas is about
[11:21] <seb128> they add you a fraction of the yearly count every month?
[11:21] <Laney> I just look at the year end total or whatever it says
[11:21] <Laney> that seems to be right
[11:22] <seb128> yeah, that's what I do
[11:22] <pitti> I'm just not sure if that includes holidays which got approved, but weren't taken yet
[11:22] <pitti> e. g. the christmas ones
[11:22] <Laney> it's not like we actually build up days in that way
[11:22] <Laney> no, it says 8 for me now
[11:22] <willcooke> pitti, same
[11:22] <Laney> which includes the Christmas ones
[11:22] <Laney> I mean, which accounts for them
[11:25] <larsu> hm I don't count as ubuntu desktop :(
[11:25] <Laney> in what sense?
[11:26] <larsu> team on lp
[11:26] <larsu> because upload rights
[11:26] <larsu> but I just noticed it when disapproving that mr
[11:26] <Laney> ah right
[11:26] <Laney> well u-s-d is a different team anwyay
[11:26] <Laney> so you can set the status which matters
[11:27] <larsu> indeed
[11:28] <czajkowski> seb128: not bad thanks at a database conference - which are a little intense but god. Beside us is IBM running rapsberry Pi on Ubuntu hooked into couchbase as their demos so it's nice to see different people doing cool things
[11:28] <seb128> nice
[11:28] <seb128> where is that?
[11:29] <seb128> larsu, don't feel left out :-(
[11:30] <larsu> I don't ;)
[11:30] <seb128> good :-)
[11:36] * Laney gets 83 emails
[11:36] <czajkowski> seb128: all your base in London today
[11:36] <seb128> Laney is ZE MAN
[11:36] <seb128> Laney, well done!
[11:37] <czajkowski> Laney: oh so what you're saying is you want an even 100
[11:37] <czajkowski> I can send you some more to help you out
[11:39] <Laney> hey czajkowski
[11:39] <Laney> only if they say "here have some free pizza"
[11:39] <Laney> pizza-over-ethernet
[11:44] <seb128> Laney, man, you have been busy
[11:44] <seb128> I only got 23 emails
[11:44] <seb128> still better than nothing ;-)
[11:44] <Laney> I got another 47 just now
[11:45] <Laney> no change rebuilds YEAH!
[11:45] <seb128> haha
[11:45] <Laney> actually quite a few of them were real
[11:45] <Laney> this took up like 3-4 entire days
[11:45] <Laney> :|
[11:45] <Laney> oh, got phonon-backend-vlc to build
[11:46] <seb128> nice!
[11:46] <seb128> I'm 2 uploads ahead of you still :p
[11:46] <Laney> wtf
[11:46] <seb128> 2695 vs 2693
[11:46] <Laney> I was like 18 behind the other day
[11:46] <Laney> before all these rebuilds
[11:47] <Laney> what is this sorcery
[11:47] <seb128> I'm playing tricks :p
[11:47] <Laney> you need to add https://launchpad.net/~laney/+synchronised-packages on too
[11:47] <Laney> :) :) :)
[11:47] <seb128> that's cheating!
[11:47] <Laney> that's the real stuff
[11:47] <seb128> shrug
[11:48] <Laney> wait what
[11:48] <seb128> the real master is pitti it seems
[11:48] <seb128> he wins fairly in each category
[11:48] <Laney> oh yeah ffmpeg was indeed a copy
[11:49] <Laney> true
[11:49] <Laney> destroyed in +uploaded-packages even
[11:49] <seb128> one day, one day...
[11:50] * Laney goes to make tea before phononing
[11:50] <Laney> then really doing gtk .3
[11:50] <Laney> .4
[11:50] * seb128 thinks about getting some food
[11:50] <seb128> huuunnngrrry
[11:51] * larsu sympathizes with seb128
[11:51] * Laney might actually get to some merges today!
[11:53] <Laney> got some scary things on my list
[11:54] <Laney> mdadm, lintian, dbus, bzr
[11:56] <seb128> speaking of dbus, it's red of version, needs a merge from debian ;-)
[11:56] <seb128> lunch, bbiab
[11:59] <Laney> yes exactly
[12:01] <larsu> seb128: enjoy!
[12:09] <larsu> Laney: not sure what to do about the black window problem... maybe Trevinho can help
[12:09] <larsu> ebassi commented on the bug, but not really helpful
[12:10] <Laney> did you think bisecting would really be helpful?
[12:10] <Laney> if so, might be good to do it
[12:11] <larsu> yeah :'(
[12:12] <Laney> but might have to suck it up and get the sync request work on the compiz team's schedule
[12:13] * larsu checks if this is happening in 3.16
[12:16] <andyrock> a friend of mine is experiencing some issues on 15.10 with his trackpad
[12:16] <andyrock> basically sometimes the pointer jumps in the top left corner
[12:16] <andyrock> he's using a thinkpad
[12:16] <andyrock> do you know something about it?
[12:18] <larsu> Laney: same problem
[12:19] <Laney> larsu: It sounded to me like it always existed but got more pronounced or something
[12:20] <larsu> I don't see a difference on my machine
[12:20] <Sweet5hark> seb128: issue seems unrelated.
[12:20] <Laney> seb128 said he went back to 3.16 because of it
[12:22] <larsu> hm I'll ask him when he's back from lunch
[12:23] <Laney> I could imagine that the effect varies depending on hardware
[12:23] <Laney> because I certainly see it but I wouldn't describe it as that annoying
[12:23] <Laney> I notice it more on dialogs
[12:23] <Laney> like open a file chooser in gedit
[12:24] <larsu> right, me too
[12:24] <larsu> but about the same on 3.16 and 3.18
[12:29] <desrt> good morning desktop people
[12:29] <Laney> definitely worse here
[12:29] <seb128> larsu, Laney, see http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/gtk.ogv
[12:29] <Laney> I don't see any black flash on 3.16
[12:29] <seb128> it's 3.18 then ld_preload 3.16
[12:29] <Laney> I see some resizing/drawing effect but it's not black
[12:29] <Laney> hey desrt
[12:29] <Laney> happy friday
[12:29] <desrt> happy friday to you too, Laney
[12:29] <desrt> also to hikiko :)
[12:30] <Laney> the chosen
[12:30] <seb128> hey desrt!
[12:30] <desrt> (she always used to say happy [day])
[12:30] <seb128> Sweet5hark, good
[12:30] <hikiko> hi desrt :)
[12:30] <hikiko> happy friday!
[12:30] <desrt> :D
[12:30] <desrt> s/used to say/says/
[12:31] <hikiko> haha
[12:31] * desrt heats water for coffee and listens to music through speakers playing through a $30 chipamp bought from amazon hooked up to an ancient (1st model) eeepc running pulseaudio network streaming
[12:31] <desrt> this is nice.
[12:32] <larsu> seb128: :(
[12:32] <larsu> morning desrt and hikiko
[12:33] <hikiko> morning larsu :)
[12:34] <desrt> hello seb128 and larsu
[12:34] <seb128> larsu, sorry :-/
[12:35] <larsu> seb128: it'd be fine if I could reproduce at least
[12:35] <seb128> you don't see it at all?
[12:35] <larsu> I see it in both 3.16 and 3.18
[12:35] <seb128> :-(
[12:35] <larsu> most notably when opening multiple windows at once
[12:36] <larsu> or while compiling and then opening a window ;)
[12:36] <Laney> lemme bizezt
[12:36] <larsu> Laney: do you not have it in 3.16?
[12:36] <Laney> no
[12:36] <seb128> our bisect master didn't pick up the challenge?
[12:36] <larsu> weird!
[12:36] <larsu> how am I seeing this then
[12:37] <seb128> larsu, weird that you see it in 3.16 :p
[12:37] <larsu> indeed :)
[12:37] <seb128> nobody reported that on launchpad from wily
[12:37] * Laney just jhbuilt the gtk-3-16 branch to check
[12:37] <larsu> that's what I did
[12:37] <Laney> then jhbuild run gedit -> ctrl-o
[12:37] <Laney> w33rd
[12:38] <larsu> AHHHH
[12:38] <larsu> nice
[12:38] <larsu> 3.16.0 doesn't have it
[12:38] <seb128> ?!
[12:38] <larsu> gtk-3-16 does
[12:38] <seb128> you just said it did
[12:38] <Laney> haha
[12:38] <Laney> did you build .0?
[12:38] <larsu> now I did
[12:38] <Laney> confused
[12:39] * larsu bisects like attente
[12:39] <seb128> weird
[12:39] <seb128> gtk 3.16.n didn't have it for me either
[12:39] <larsu> Laney: I built the branch, saw the same bug, then built 3.16.0 and don't see it anymore
[12:39] <seb128> can I suggest you built the wrong thing (tm)? :p
[12:40] <larsu> you can, but you'd probably be wrong
[12:40] <Laney> oh snap
[12:40] * Laney noms czajkowski
[12:40] <czajkowski> Laney: :)
[12:42] <seb128> larsu, try me! bet is on ;-)
[12:42] <larsu> hehe
[12:42] <czajkowski> Laney: context is a wonderful thing or it does look a tad odd in here :P)
[12:43] <Laney> urgh 10 steps
[12:43] <Laney> czajkowski: it's good to me mysterious
[12:43] * Laney swooshes off
[12:43] <larsu> you're doing it as well?
[12:44] <Laney> 13/11 12:36:25 <Laney> lemme bizezt
[12:44] <larsu> 6 steps :P
[12:45] <Laney> didn't sound like you managed to get it the same way we do
[12:48] <larsu> Laney, seb128: https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?id=9da241b2d0251cafa30a9da13d0299e496a9bded
[12:48] * larsu makes sure this is actually it
[12:50] <seb128> doesn't make sense
[12:50] <seb128> that was commited for 3.16.1
[12:50] <seb128> but I don't have the issue with 3.16.7 from wily
[12:53] <larsu> whatever I'm seeing is a bug as well though
[12:55] <larsu> anyway, grabbing food now :)
[12:55] * Laney carries on with le bisect
[12:55] <Laney> this is fun, I see why attente loves these so much
[13:25] <Laney> bisect win!
[13:26] <Laney> 74f2d9448f24bbfdaf32ae6b328ed3e126700afe
[13:28] <Sweet5hark> <- huge fan of bisecting (or bibisecting)
[13:44] <willcooke> Laney, once I've targetted for X, should I remove the rls-x-incoming tag too?
[13:45] <Laney> I guess so
[13:45] <willcooke> *nominated
[13:45] <willcooke> thx
[13:45] <willcooke> seb128, you ok for me to do that ^^^ Or should I leave it as it is for now?
[13:46] <seb128> +1 to do it
[13:46] <Laney> have to keep track of which ones to approve then
[13:47] <seb128> https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?id=74f2d9448f24bbfdaf32ae6b328ed3e126700afe then?
[13:47] <seb128> seems easy to revert ;-)
[13:47] <seb128> though there are equivalent commits for different widgets
[13:51] <Laney> probably ought to understand it...
[13:53] <qengho> Good morning!
[13:57] <willcooke> hey qengho! See scroll back a Cr issue I'm having today. Basically, old launcher icon went "funny". Would launch Cr but a new icon was create on the launcher which shows the pips etc.. Plus when I try and open a link from xchat I get a new window and no link copied over
[14:01] <qengho> willcooke: Hrm. Thanks.
[14:02] <willcooke> qengho, hey, any time :)
[14:02] <qengho> :(
[14:02] <qengho> THAT'S WHAT I FEAR
[14:02] <willcooke> qengho, what can I do to debug? I'm afraid I removed the original icon
[14:02] <qengho> :)
[14:02] <willcooke> :D:D
[14:03] <willcooke> Did the icon change recently? It looks to be a slightly different colour?
[14:03] <qengho> willcooke: I think I can figure it out. I have an idea where to look.
[14:03] <willcooke> qengho, ah cool, thanks
[14:03] <willcooke> this is on my 14.04 box
[14:04] <qengho> willcooke: the happyaron was asking about snaps at my 1AM. What did you want us to do?
[14:05] <willcooke> qengho, let's take this to /query
[14:06] <qengho> I didn't have much to tell him, even if I was awake.
[14:38] <larsu> Laney: cool!
[14:38] <larsu> I wonder what bug I'm seeing here
[14:39] <davmor2> larsu: if it has 8 legs it's a spider and the don't appreciate being called bugs ;)
[14:49] <gQuigs> I'm happy to make a pull request to remove software-center, empathy, and brasero.. or is there a reason to wait?
[14:53] <seb128> I'm not in favor of removing software-center until we sort out the impact on unity dash and other things using it
[14:53] <didrocks> +1
[14:53] <seb128> also until we have at least packagekit 1.0 and a building gnome-software
[14:53] <seb128> like at least swap it out for something that is pushed and likely to replace it
[14:54] <larsu> +2
[14:56] <gQuigs> seb128: yea, installing software on the dash breaks if you remove software-center
[14:56] <seb128> so don't
[14:56] <qengho> zing
[14:59] <gQuigs> ok :)
[15:01] <jcastro> c'mon seb128, let 'er rip!
[15:02] <seb128> jcastro, stop hating!
[15:02] <jcastro> no one opens up the dash and is like "man I can't wait to install things from the software center."
[15:02] <flocculant> not everyone using usc actually has a dash ...
[15:02] <mdeslaur> jcastro: so you'd rather not have it work? :)
[15:02] <davmor2> jcastro: There's an airport down the road don't make me get on a plane!
[15:03] <seb128> flocculant, that comment is irrelevant to the discuss though, we are speaking about changing the Ubuntu Desktop seed
[15:03] <seb128> flocculant, which is including Unity and such a dash
[15:03] <flocculant> ok :)
[15:03] <jcastro> seb128: I am half joking, but half want to see a flamethrower burning down some things early in the cycle.
[15:04] <seb128> jcastro, let's burn juju
[15:04] <seb128> that's a thing :p
[15:04] <jcastro> :)
[15:05] <mitya57> Laney, thanks for phonon & phonon-backend-vlc uploads! I have been too busy in the last days that I didn't even have time to read IRC logs :p
[15:09] <gQuigs> heh' juju can install software and has a gui..
[15:09] * gQuigs runs away
[15:12] <Laney> mitya57: np, I just nicked some stuff from Debian
[15:13] <Laney> but we also removed them from xenial to make the other stuff transition :P
[15:13] <Laney> it would have been cooler to fix them instead
[15:15] <Laney> bregma: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757261 seems to be waiting for you btw
[15:15] * didrocks waves good evening and good week-end
[15:16] <didrocks> going to catch a train
[15:16] <Laney> bye didrocks!!!
[15:16] * Laney tries to type really fast these days
[15:16] <Laney> happy SNCF
[15:16] <Laney> enjoy the tune
[15:16] <didrocks> Laney: merci ! ta da da :)
[15:16] <Laney> he always misses out one note
[15:25] <larsu> argh this commit is killing me
[15:25] * seb128 is away for some errands
[15:26] <seb128> be back in some hours to deal with another round of emails and backlog before calling it a week
[15:26] <seb128> see you in a bit or have a good w.e if you are off by then!
[15:27] <seb128> willcooke, I played a bit with https://trello.com/b/FQgY4lpN/gnome-work but it imported things under your name because the script has your key, using mine returns a lack of permission error, need to figure out why later on
[15:27] <seb128> (it does the same on a test board I created/owned)
[15:27] <seb128> bbl
[15:27] <willcooke> oki
[15:28] <willcooke> thx seb128
[16:23] <cyphermox> has anyone else noticed this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1516078
[16:26] <Laney> I don't even have any pulseaudio messages in my syslog
[16:26] * pitti waves good bye, have a nice evening!
[16:26] <Laney> see you pitti, happy weekend!
[16:28] <larsu> happy weekend pitti!
[16:30] <pitti> o/
[16:37] * Laney vim ubuntu.xenial/desktop
[16:46] * qengho afk.
[17:32] <Laney> seb128: back?
[17:33] <Laney> I have a bit in my seed diff dropping gcc and make
[17:33] <Laney> forgot why... do you remember?
[17:33] <Laney> I suppose because dkms?
[17:48] <willcooke> quittin time
[17:48] <willcooke> l8r sk8rs
[18:37] <seb128> Laney, back now...
[18:37] <seb128> Laney, unsure, but dkms seems likely
[18:42] <seb128> cyphermox, no such error here
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[06:38] <flocculant> pdf is broken in docs
[09:59] <knome> flocculant, elaborate?
[10:02] <flocculant> it didn't build http://pastebin.com/fvhpze2h
[10:03] <knome> weird, i just pulled the latest state and it built for me
[10:03] <flocculant> mmm
[10:03] <flocculant> I pulled when I said it was broken
[10:04] <flocculant> No revisions or tags to pull.
[10:04] <knome> are you on xenial or something other weird stuff? :P
[10:04] <flocculant> :)
[10:04] <Unit193> bzr status
[10:04] <flocculant> of course
[10:05] <flocculant> Unit193: status just tells me the things it did build
[10:05] <knome> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1194369
[10:06] <flocculant> knome: just fyi - it built fine yesterday
[10:06] <flocculant> suppose I should have a look see what I've updated
[10:06] <knome> maybe some syncs from debian landed?
[10:06] <flocculant> but later, biab - dodging showers here :)
[10:08] <knome> yep, looks like libxmlgraphics-commons-java is 2.0
[10:09] <knome> but fop is 1.1
[10:10] <knome> tbe, it has been 1.1 since trusty
[10:10] <knome> :P
[10:10] <Unit193> Debian has newer.
[10:11] <knome> yep
[10:11] <Unit193> http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/f/fop/unstable_changelog
[10:11] <knome> there's some ubuntu patches, so it isn't synced autoamtically
[10:12] <knome> somebody want to poke people on #ubuntu-devel?
[10:12] <knome> Unit193?
[10:12] <Unit193> knome: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fop/1:2.0+dfsg-4
[10:12] <knome> aha
[10:12] <knome> good then
[10:14] <Unit193> (Except, -proposed and ftbfs, but yeah otherwise good.) Also, I don't see any patches in Ubuntu...
[10:14] <knome> i assumed there was something because the package version was XubuntuX
[10:14] <knome> but i guess it's something else silly then
[10:14] <knome> but good that somebody is actually working on it, even if ftbfs and propsoed
[10:15] <Unit193> That's delta, not patches.
[10:15] <Unit193> Build-dep transitioned.
[10:15] * knome shrugs
[13:10] <flocculant> thanks for looking :)
[13:10] <flocculant> I've no need for pdf's - but thought I would mention it was broken here, just in case
[14:24] <sidi-unbounced> d
[14:24] <sidi-unbounced> hi people
[14:24] <sidi-unbounced> Does Xubuntu have an easy-to-use API for displaying permanent notifications?
[14:24] <sidi-unbounced> that libindicator thingy?
[14:25] <sidi-unbounced> i want my sandbox daemon to have a way to display running sandboxes and notify of sandboxed apps performing specific actions
[14:27] <ochosi> yeah, if you're thinking xubuntu then yes, you could write an indicator
[14:28] <flocculant> O_O
[14:28] <ochosi> beware that that'll only work in ubuntu, few distros really support it and the indicator maintainers said they aren't interested in making indicators work in other distros
[14:28] <flocculant> an ochosi ...
[14:28] <ochosi> the better way may be to write a small panel plugin
[14:28] <sidi-unbounced> ochosi, the study im doing is on Xub so that's fine by me for now :-)
[14:28] <sidi-unbounced> right, that too
[14:28] <ochosi> not sure whether a panel plugin is actually more work...
[14:28] <ochosi> in both you have to live with the restrictions of gtk ;)
[14:28] <sidi-unbounced> i have a C daemon written in very low-level C code, without even a glib linked to it right now
[14:28] <sidi-unbounced> it's setuid, too :D
[14:29] <sidi-unbounced> dont wanna put up too much code into that. Panel plugins are loaded by the panel dynamically, right?
[14:29] <sidi-unbounced> and they have an init function that's called and run as a panel thread afterwards?
[14:30] <sidi-unbounced> actually i was thinking of using that persistent thing only for a history of notifications
[14:30] <sidi-unbounced> and using Xfwm to display primary controls for sandboxed apps
[14:33] <sidi-unbounced> sidi, ping ping
[14:33] <sidi-unbounced> it seems my bouncer is back.
[14:52] <krytarik> knome: I think a manual sync of the recent translations to the docs branch before renaming the user docs source dir would be wise? Also, notice the .pot file will be renamed too, of course.
[14:53] <krytarik> Also, should I try and exempt the SD from the translation too?
[14:55] <krytarik> (In the subdir way, that is.)
[15:16] <krytarik> Or, similar to the CC one, we could move it to the doc-specific "libs" directory.
[15:20] <krytarik> I'd prefer that.
[16:26] <krytarik> knome: Just noticed, you might need to fix the placement of the branch icon here :P - https://unit193.net/xubuntu/docs/contributor-docs/C/howto.html#bzr-push Also, might be nice to spell out "Bazaar" for once in the title at least. And I'd expand the title of the page a bit again, to more than just "How to..." And for the XSD one, I'd drop the "The" at the start.
[16:32] <krytarik> And I think we should add 'bzr mv' there - it's really important for the resulting diff, as I've just noticed recently! :P
[16:33] <flocculant> words and words and words :p
[16:33] <krytarik> Yeah, sorry about that. :|
[16:33] <krytarik> :D
[16:33] <flocculant> pffft
[16:33] <flocculant> why worry :)
[16:33] <krytarik> Right!
[16:34] <flocculant> or rather - nothing TOO worry about :)
[16:42] <flocculant> knome: but if you do do anything - can you fix the with with in QA team release responsibilities :)
[16:48] <krytarik> Hah - plus missing period.
[16:49] <krytarik> Also, I'd make the whole "Release Note" the link.
[16:50] <krytarik> Similarly for other links in that page.
[16:50] <krytarik> * on
[16:51] <krytarik> Like "Manual Testcases".
[16:54] <krytarik> "bug report to the testcase project" - "bug report" should link to "../+filebug", rather than "project".
[16:54] <flocculant> not that concerned about that tbh
[16:55] <flocculant> imo these pages shouldn't need handholding
[16:56] <krytarik> Basically, I want the anchor text indicate what to expect of the target.
[16:56] <flocculant> well you know what I want got :p
[16:57] <krytarik> Yep, "just click the link!" :D
[16:57] <flocculant> things like that really don't bother me much :D
[16:58] <flocculant> that said if you're that concerned - do an MP as long as you don't change words without me knowing :)
[16:58] <flocculant> remember to do the with with though :p
[16:58] <krytarik> lol
[16:59] <flocculant> which does bring up a point seriously
[16:59] <krytarik> Yeah, I have a huge MP upcoming anyway. :P
[16:59] <flocculant> taking QA as an example
[16:59] <flocculant> if changes to QA pages are subject to an MP - then the QA lead should ack them
[16:59] <flocculant> and docs- doc team
[16:59] <flocculant> etc
[16:59] <krytarik> Yeah, agree.
[17:00] <krytarik> Just add as additional reviewer then.
[17:00] <flocculant> not really an issue when it's all new and the people concerned are filling the hole
[17:01] <flocculant> perhaps should be in there somewhere as a point
[17:01] <flocculant> krytarik: yea
[17:02] <krytarik> In Processes probably then.
[17:02] <flocculant> considering there wasn't anything at all a week or two ago it's all pretty much \o/ if you ask me
[17:02] <flocculant> yea - that would probably work
[17:02] <krytarik> Indeed!
[17:12] <krytarik> So many "Xubuntu" there that seem unneeded! :P
[17:12] <flocculant> probably
[17:13] <flocculant> in fact unless it's pointing to somewhere linky - not sure it's needed ever
[17:14] <flocculant> except the strategy doc
[17:14] <krytarik> Also, noticed while in the index it says "Subteam documentation", QA has three chapters in there. :P
[17:14] <flocculant> yep
[17:14] <flocculant> greedy as you like
[17:15] <krytarik> Not sure the title of the SD needs to have it either though.
[17:16] <flocculant> needs to have what?
[17:17] <krytarik> "Xubuntu".
[17:17] <flocculant> it doesn't
[17:17] <flocculant> at least not here
[17:18] <flocculant> says Part I. Subteam documentation here
[17:19] <Unit193> There's only one pot file?
[17:21] <krytarik> Unit193: One per doc variant.
[17:21] <Unit193> Ah good, OK.
[17:23] <flocculant> I thought pot files were translation things?
[17:26] <krytarik> Yep - it'd seem Unit193 is referring to something reg. the user docs one I said earlier.
[17:26] <krytarik> Unit193: And yes, I only touched that one.
[17:28] <flocculant> so - forgive me if I'm looking at this wrong - should there be any pot file for the cont docs?
[17:28] <krytarik> There is.
[17:30] <flocculant> right - but why?
[17:31] <krytarik> knome put it there first! :P
[17:31] <flocculant> not saying he didn't :)
[17:31] <Unit193> flocculant: I wondered too.
[17:32] <flocculant> I vaguely saw Unit193 and knome talking about cont docs and languages - with the result being it should be english
[17:32] <flocculant> not sure when now - days merging :)
[17:33] <krytarik> No one concluded it shouldn't be offered for translation at all though - only exempt the SD.
[17:33] <krytarik> I'd certainly not promote it as much as the user docs though.
[17:34] <flocculant> yea - but if cont docs are in say swahili - tends to imply if someone comes here talking swahili someone will answer them :)
[17:34] <flocculant> should be in en imo - if for no other reason than it implies that all the cont stuff is en
[17:35] <flocculant> anyway - not overly bothered till someone tries to talk to me ;)
[17:35] <krytarik> Heh.
[18:41] <Unit193> Well infinity popped up, but that's not the one we're looking for, IIRC.
[18:41] <flocculant> for?
[18:42] <krytarik> Core MPs.
[18:42] <krytarik> Unit193: Also, they're going to force you to update them anyway! :P
[18:42] <flocculant> he'd do I'm sure
[18:44] <Unit193> I'm not sure.
[18:45] <Unit193> Honestly, I'd say have them review first, then fix if NACK and update if ACK.
[18:45] <krytarik> Yeah.
[18:45] <flocculant> Unit193: iirc he was involved with the discussion before slangasek
[18:46] <flocculant> and yea agree with that
[18:46] <flocculant> cos it's easy for me to say :)
[18:46] <Unit193> flocculant: You remember well. The second is the one that wanted changes/did more of a review.
[18:46] <Unit193> Also, I don't plan to update it for review. :P
[18:46] <flocculant> yea - well I did ping slangasek a while back but
[18:47] <Unit193> Yep, thanks for that.
[18:47] <flocculant> Unit193: I assume you mean - let them ack the way we want to do it - and then update it if they ack
[18:47] <Unit193> Rebase/make it nice, yeah.
[18:51] <flocculant> k - just like to know where we are :)
[18:53] <Unit193> Seemingly in a rowboat in the middle of a great lake without a paddle.
[18:58] <flocculant> lol
[18:58] <flocculant> hope it's a big boat if we're all in it with you :D
[18:59] <flocculant> got an LO update earlier - seems I had some other icon set too
[20:56] <knome> huhu
[21:12] <flocculant> hey ho knomio
[21:13] <knome> o/
[21:33] <Unit193> Are bugcontrol members ever useful?
[21:48] <Unit193> flocculant: In order to try and get you back on my good side, new xfdashboard is already in the extras PPA!
[21:48] <flocculant> :)
[21:49] <flocculant> I'm always on my good side ...
[21:49] <flocculant> I did see the mail an hour or so ago about that
[21:50] <flocculant> why's it in ppa twice though?
[21:50] <Unit193> Still building.
[21:50] <flocculant> aah - ok :)
[21:52] <flocculant> Unit193: oh yea - I did use the xfce sound plugin for a while - but I had two sound notifications
[21:52] <flocculant> even though I had removed other one and rebooted
[21:52] <Unit193> indicator-sound was purged?
[21:52] <flocculant> will check that properly tomorrow again
[21:52] <flocculant> pretty sure I did
[21:53] <Unit193> And, ochosi or someone wants results on that, I'm just the packager.
[21:53] <flocculant> at the time - the 2 notifications was annoying enough to just stop even looking
[21:53] <flocculant> I'll check it out again tomorrow
[21:54] <Unit193> Understandable, I'm not testing it either. :3
[21:54] <flocculant> :)
[21:54] <Unit193> I should though.
[21:55] <flocculant> ppa says newer version available - that always confuses me
[21:57] <Unit193> Fixed. :P
[21:57] <flocculant> :)
[21:57] <flocculant> I'll check it out tomorrow :)
[21:58] <flocculant> anyone need to know anything about xfdashboard?
[21:58] <flocculant> I only wish it wasn't enormously full screen :p
[21:59] <Unit193> I do! Is it going into Ubuntu? That's the "development" branch we've got in the PPA, I'd presume we'd want stable?
[21:59] <flocculant> not as far as I know
[22:00] <flocculant> I guess full screen would be ok if you had a whole bunch of things open :)
[22:04] <Unit193> OK, well enough users in extras to keep it going (heck, a team member likes it, that's good enough), so that's fine anyway.
[22:06] <flocculant> mmm
[22:07] <flocculant> actually it's bigger than full screen
[22:07] <flocculant> if I whack the mouse over to the right it sees all the right pane
[22:07] <flocculant> and just upgraded it
[22:08] <flocculant> unless it's always been like that and I'd not noticed ...
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-13-#ubuntu-nl
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[01:21] <uggtibbi> Goede avond
[12:19] <ddsds> Ik wil op ubuntu asterisk downloade
[12:19] <ddsds> heb ook paar commando's ingevuld
[12:20] <ddsds> maar hoe moet ik die programma eigenlijk openen
[13:25] <Kees__> The requested URL / was not found on this server. Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu) Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 80
[13:25] <Kees__> Hoe moet ik dit probleem oplossen
[17:56] <antartic> hallo
[18:00] <antartic> ik heb recentelijk het mobo,cpu en ram vervangen van mijn ubuntu systeem. Ging eigenlijk best goed alleen heb ik nog problemen met de grafische chip drivers. ik had een oude nvidia kaart maar draai nu op de SoC gpu van mijn intel i3 6100 (skylake)
[18:02] <antartic> als ik een video afspeel of op youtube een video speel dan schiet de cpu used % de lucht in. volgens system settings details draait het op "Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.6, 256 bits)"
[18:02] <antartic> hoe krijg ik de juiste intel drivers aan de praat?
[23:23] <sajansen> hey
[23:25] <OerHeks> ho ho kom terug
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-13-#ubuntu-co
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[18:09] <Ubuntero|90691> Hola
[18:09] <Ubuntero|90691> Quiero saber como instalar ubuntu desde cd
[22:47] <Zangetsu> kubot:hola
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.154181
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"channel": "#ubuntu-co"
}
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2015-11-13-#ubuntu-pt
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[04:03] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[23:27] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.155545
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"authors": [
"astroo-"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-pt"
}
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2015-11-13-#ubuntu-us-tn
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[23:47] <aedend> https://www.reddit.com/live/vwwnkuplwr9y <-- paris If any of you all have sources for more information please share
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.156401
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"aedend"
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-ir
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[17:40] <elham> salam
[17:40] <elham> ye soal dashtam
[17:40] <elham> kasi hast?
[17:47] <iraj> elham, just ask
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.158470
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"elham",
"iraj"
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"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/26/%23ubuntu-ir.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ir"
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-se
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[00:36] <hjeltman> Hej. Ny-gammal på det här med IRC och Linux, och var rätt nöjd igår kväll när jag lyckats få upp en ubuntuburk med plexserver och transmission fungerande.. Men sedan lagade jag sönder transmission... Har spenderat rätt många timmar och försöka ta reda på vad det är som är fel mm. och jag tror mig slutligen ha kommit fram till att transmission-daemon inte startar...
[00:37] <hjeltman> Och jag kan helt enkelt inte komma på hur jag skall komma vidare med felsökningen...
[00:39] <hjeltman> $ status transmission-daemon
[00:39] <hjeltman> transmission-daemon stop/waiting
[00:39] <hjeltman> hjeltman@hjeltman
[00:40] <hjeltman> Och det svaret återkommer även fast jag försöker att starta med>> sudo service transmission-daemon start
[00:40] <hjeltman> Någon som kan ha en aning om vad det kan vafra??
[00:40] <hjeltman> vara*
[01:24] <hyltixa> dum fråga men har du testat att starta om ? xD :D
[10:19] <marsupapu> Jaså, någonting har hänt
[10:21] <Spookan> Vad?
[10:23] <marsupapu> Något slags re-join
[11:34] <Hund> marsupapu: w00t?
[11:37] <marsupapu> Hmm, jag har kaske några svarigheterna att uttrycka mig.
[11:37] <marsupapu> Tyvärr.
[11:38] <Hund> :)
[11:43] <marsupapu> Men jag undrade bara varför min irc-client säger att jag "Joined" (ingen aning hur säga det på svenska) på det här kanalen ~4 timmar sen.
[11:43] <Hund> Ah
[11:43] <marsupapu> Och min nick var också andats
[11:44] <Hund> Det kan antingen vara din lina, servern eller någonas där emellan.
[11:46] <Zooklubba> Netsplits
[11:46] <Zooklubba> var ju massa netsplits. klassiska freenode
[11:48] <marsupapu> Det händer ganska så ofta på IRCNet också. Ircnet bara anmälar saken på olika sätt.
[11:50] <marsupapu> Eller borde jag säga "på annorlunda sätt"
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-us-ca
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[06:33] <Roguehorse> Dead tonight
[06:43] <Roguehorse> Must be the Holiday =)
[06:43] <ianxorlin> Rougehorse how are you doing I have not seen you in a long time
[08:36] <nhaines_> Happy Thanksgiving, everyone! :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.174135
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"Roguehorse",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-us-ca"
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-ru
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[13:12] <d1m1trus> дано: роутер MF910 у него на борту есть чип bq24296 который управляет зарядом и питанием OTG. В ядре есть модуль bq24192 который через i2c по адресу 0x6b общается с чипом. Чем можно мониторить обмен i2c?
[14:48] <andrex> lm-sensors
[14:49] <andrex> вечера все
[15:28] <andrex> !search sensor*
[15:28] <ubuntuhelp> None found
[15:28] <andrex> !search sensor
[15:28] <ubuntuhelp> Found: lmsensors@sensors, extrasens@extrasensoric, extrasensoric, is <alias> extrasensori@extrasensoric, lm-sensors@sensors, sensors
[15:29] <andrex> !sensors
[15:29] <ubuntuhelp> Полезную информацию про lm-sensors можно найти тут: http://help.ubuntu.ru/wiki/lm_sensors и на анг. здесь https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[17:50] <Nastya> привет всем
[17:55] <Nastya> hi!
[19:30] <Sergey_IT> вечера
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.181015
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"Nastya",
"Sergey_IT",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-ru"
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-on-air
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[05:22] <thanksgiving> happy thanksgiving
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ubuntu-chat
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"authors": [
"thanksgiving"
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"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/26/%23ubuntu-on-air.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-on-air"
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-it
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[00:31] <fabietto> ciao a tutti
[00:37] <fabietto> ciao a tutti
[00:37] <fabietto> qualcuno mi puo dare qualche dritta su ubuntu?
[00:46] <roky> salve ragazzi
[00:46] <roky> ho bisogno di un aiuto
[00:47] <Carlin0> per cosa roky ?
[00:48] <roky> per capire come funziona xchat
[00:48] <roky> uso ubuntu da pochissimo tempo
[00:48] <roky> vorrei prima di tutto cambiare la mail
[00:48] <roky> associata al mio profilo
[00:48] <roky> e poi capire se posso scaricare e come scaricare
[00:49] <roky> grazie mille carlin8
[00:49] <Carlin0> scaricare cosa ?
[00:49] <roky> da multisalachannel
[00:49] <Carlin0> eh ?
[00:50] <roky> dal sito
[00:50] <Carlin0> cosa devi scaricare ?
[00:56] <roky> Carlin0 ci sei?
[00:56] <roky> mi si era bloccato xchat
[00:56] <Carlin0> cosa devi scaricare ?
[00:56] <roky> partiamo da zero
[00:57] <roky> voglio capire come funziona xchat
[00:57] <Carlin0> si ma fra un po vado a dormire ...
[00:57] <roky> allora ti spiego come posso cambiare il nome utente
[00:57] <Carlin0> come funziona : tu scrivi e gli altri leggono e viceversa
[00:57] <Carlin0> vuoi cambiare nick ?
[00:58] <roky> perchè se clicco sul mio nome con il tasto destro mi esce al mio nome utente il mio nick e poi l'indirizzo ip^
[00:58] <roky> voglio eliminare l'indirizzo ip
[00:58] <roky> tu lo vedi?
[00:58] <Carlin0> !chat | roky
[00:58] <ubot-it> roky: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[00:59] <roky> per esempio questa cosa che significa?
[00:59] <Carlin0> che devi entrare in quel canale
[00:59] <roky> ok
[00:59] <roky> ma tu lo vedi il mio indirizzo ip^
[01:00] <roky> ?
[01:00] <Carlin0> perchè qui si fa solo supporto a ubuntu
[01:00] <roky> io se clicco sul tuo nick con il tasto destro vedo carlin0@uniffiliated
[01:01] <roky> roba del genere insomma
[01:01] <Carlin0> !chat | roky
[01:01] <ubot-it> roky: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[01:01] <roky> ok sono entrato su quel canale
[01:01] <roky> ci sei anche tu
[01:20] <roky__vegas> test
[08:25] <giancarlo> Buondi, vorrei convertire file pdf in odt....uso ubuntu ...help me.......
[08:26] <giancarlo> nel software center esiste qualcosa?
[08:27] <ExPBoy> giancarlo, prova a leggere questo post http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/viewtopic.php?t=185888
[08:27] <giancarlo> grazie mille
[08:29] <giancarlo> mi dice che il pacchetto non ha candidati....
[08:29] <danieleroma> salve
[08:29] <danieleroma> se possibile vorrei chiedere assistenza per installare ubuntu su mac
[08:31] <danieleroma> da mac scarico la iso (che successivamente apprendola da errore) indi per cui non me la fa masterizzare su cd/usb
[08:31] <danieleroma> inetbooting prepara la chiavetta solo per windows (me ne sono accorto dopo la 5 volta che la facevo :D)
[08:32] <ExPBoy> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/UbuntuMacIntel
[08:32] <danieleroma> expboy con rfind non c ho capito nulla >(
[08:32] <danieleroma> :(
[08:33] <ExPBoy> danieleroma, ma perchè vuoi installare ubuntu sul mac?
[08:34] <danieleroma> perche volevo analizzare un po linux
[08:34] <danieleroma> ho appena reinstallato el capitan da zero e non mi andava di mettere una macchina virtuale
[08:35] <ExPBoy> ok io non uso mac ma ti ho postato una guida altro non so dirti
[08:35] <danieleroma> expboy grazie mille gentilissimo
[08:35] <akis24> giancarlo: ti basta usare libreoffice prima importi il file .pdf e poi salvi in .odt
[09:28] <Ignazio> Ciao ragazzi/e ho un problema per quanto riguarda l'installazione di ubuntu, ho provato con le varie 15.10, 15.04.03 ma il seguente problema sussiste. In pratica introduco la pen drive in una delle porte usb, riavvo il pc entro in modalità boot clicco sull'avvio UEFI PEN DRIVE ma l'installazione non parte. Qualcuno sa risolvere?
[09:29] <Ignazio> 14.04.03****
[09:31] <Carlin0> Ignazio, come al fai la pen drive ?
[09:54] <eugenio_> 'giorno, dovrei usare un software in una versione ahimè temo poco supportata da ubuntu15.10, in quanto il software dipende da librerie che nella 15.10 sono state aggiornate...suggerimenti?
[09:56] <ExPBoy> eugenio_, magari se dici che software devi usare....
[09:57] <Carlin0> !veggenti | eugenio_
[09:57] <ubot-it> eugenio_: Gli utenti di questo canale non sono in possesso di poteri magici, non possiedono sfere di cristallo e non sono nemmeno veggenti. Canonical non può permettersi un corso di stregoneria per i suoi collaboratori. Si chiede quindi, gentilmente, di esprimersi in maniera chiara e molto dettagliata.
[09:58] <eugenio_> ExPBoy, certo, devo usare grass64, mentre la 15.10 distribuisce la versione di grass7.0.1
[09:59] <gigirock> !info grass
[09:59] <ubot-it> grass (source: grass): Geographic Resources Analysis Support System (GRASS GIS). In component universe, is extra. Version 7.0.1-2build1 (wily), package size 4 kB, installed size 30 kB
[09:59] <eugenio_> il problema grosso di dipendenze
[09:59] <ExPBoy> eugenio_, si ma non puoi usare la versione recente?
[10:00] <eugenio_> ExPBoy, per alcune cose che avevo preparato per la versione 64 non posso
[10:01] <gigirock> eugenio_, ma sul loro sito c'e' il .deb della ver 64 ?
[10:01] <ExPBoy> quindi basta che torni alla versione di ubuntu che avevi
[10:01] <gigirock> ExPBoy, bisogna vedere nel repo che versione c'e' ...
[10:02] <ExPBoy> se la usava prima...
[10:03] <eugenio_> fino alla prima della 15 il repo forniva grass64
[10:03] <ExPBoy> bene
[10:03] <eugenio_> poi dalla 15 grass70
[10:03] <ExPBoy> ti sei risposto da solo
[10:03] <ExPBoy> :)
[10:03] <gigirock> eugenio_, il mondo avanza
[10:03] <eugenio_> ExPBoy, ovviamente non posso fare il downgrade del desktop
[10:04] <gigirock> eugenio_, ti conviene scaricare il sorgente della versione 64 e tentare la compilazione
[10:04] <eugenio_> ExPBoy, la cosa strana è che alcune funzioni presenti in grass64 non sono più presenti in grass70, questo è un problema per me...
[10:04] <gigirock> eugenio_, ma se dovrai distribuire l'applicazione ti conviene aggiornare il tuo lavoro
[10:05] <eugenio_> gigirock, devo fare dei calcoli diciamo nel prossimo mese e mezzo e produrre mappe...
[10:05] <eugenio_> gigirock, se compilo la 64 trovo problemi con quelle dipendenze?
[10:09] <gigirock> eugenio_, penso di no ma non ti conviene , guarda qui http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Grass7/NewFeatures in fondo ci sono tutte le parti che sono cambiate o eliminate
[10:10] <gigirock> ◦lsize -> label_size eugenio_ vedi che ci sono tutte le differenze
[10:12] <neofita> buongiorno. Qualcuno mi spiega dove posso trovare l'utilità per installare ubuntu su una chiavetta usb ?
[10:14] <eugenio_> gigirock, compilato senza problemi
[10:14] <gigirock> eugenio_, il problema e' se dovrai 'girare' il tuo lavoro ad altri...
[10:15] <gigirock> !usb | neofita
[10:15] <ubot-it> neofita: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/DaSupportoUsb
[10:15] <eugenio_> gigirock, teoricamente no
[10:16] <neofita> ok, ma dove trovo il "creatore dischi di avvio" ?
[10:16] <gigirock> neofita, nella live lol..... aspetta
[10:18] <gigirock> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | neofita
[10:19] <neofita> ah... molto più comodo. grazie!
[12:24] <gigirock> riavvio
[12:39] <not> scusate ma in ubuntu ci sono programmi per vedere ecc..??
[12:39] <krabador> " per vedere"?
[12:39] <not> le temperature ecc..??
[12:40] <krabador> not, senti, spiega le es
[12:40] <krabador> esigenze
[12:40] <ExPBoy> !sensors
[12:40] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'sensors'
[12:40] <ExPBoy> !info sensors
[12:40] <ubot-it> Package sensors does not exist in wily
[12:40] <ExPBoy> no
[12:40] <krabador> ExPBoy, non confidare troppo
[12:41] <not> es se volessi vedere le temperature della cpu ?
[12:42] <krabador> quale ubuntu?
[12:42] <not> 15.10
[12:46] <krabador> sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[12:46] <krabador> da terminale
[12:48] <not> ok grazie
[12:49] <krabador> poi sensors-detect, invio
[12:49] <not> ok
[12:49] <krabador> lo configuri
[12:50] <not> quindi e simile a conky?
[12:51] <krabador> no
[12:51] <krabador> è a riga di comando
[12:52] <not> ok
[12:53] <not> scusa se rompo ma se ubuntu 15.10 e installato su un ssd ed inserisco un altro hard disk "ntfs" ubuntu me lo vede?
[12:54] <krabador> si
[12:55] <not> ok =)
[12:55] <krabador> not, hai la terza media?
[12:56] <not> no
[12:57] <krabador> ok.
[13:29] <maxer> salve a tutti
[13:29] <maxer> come installo sql su ubuntu gnome?
[13:35] <krabador> maxer, http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Server/MySql
[13:35] <maxer> tutto qui?
[13:35] <maxer> ooooo grazie
[13:36] <krabador> de nada
[13:37] <maxer> mi dice che ho installato
[13:37] <maxer> provo ad avviare ma non vedo nulla
[13:37] <maxer> non dovrei vedere qualche finestra o un terminale?
[13:38] <krabador> maxer, mi dispiace
[13:38] <krabador> ma cosa sia e come funzioni sql
[13:38] <krabador> non è argomento di questo canale
[13:39] <maxer> come funziona lo so il problema e che no si avvia il programma
[13:40] <krabador> maxer, allora non sei completamente informato
[13:42] <krabador> e decisamente confuso
[13:42] <maxer> forse ho risolto trovando xampp
[13:43] <maxer> yeaaaaa
[13:43] <ExPBoy> lol
[13:43] <maxer> amici di università..
[13:43] <krabador> maxer, certo certo
[13:43] <krabador> maxer, in bocca al lupo per tutto
[13:43] <maxer> grazie a tutti
[13:44] <krabador> la generazione di domani...
[14:12] <Angelo08> Salve a tutti sto provando a installare su di un portatile Dell inspiron 15 ubuntu studio, ma non riesco a caricare la iso tramite dvd, in cosa sbaglio?
[14:13] <cristian_c> Angelo08: non possiamo saperlo se non ci fornisci dettagli su come e cosa hai caricato esattamente
[14:14] <Angelo08> ps. nel bios ho impostato come options legacy
[14:14] <Angelo08> e carico il dvd esterno della iso appena masterizzata
[14:14] <cristian_c> Angelo08: hai controllato l'hash del file .iso?
[14:14] <Angelo08> che possa essere corrotto???
[14:15] <Angelo08> dal download
[14:15] <Angelo08> ???
[14:15] <Angelo08> ieri
[14:15] <cristian_c> !md5 | Angelo08
[14:15] <ubot-it> Angelo08: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Md5Sum | md5: http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/MD5SUMS
[14:15] <Angelo08> ripensandoci l'ho rimesso a scaricare
[14:15] <Angelo08> e ora lo sto rimasterizzando
[14:15] <cristian_c> lol
[14:17] <Angelo08> ahahahah
[14:17] <Angelo08> si senza controllare
[14:17] <Angelo08> vado frettoloso
[14:17] <Angelo08> ma non penso sia un problema della boot list option???
[14:18] <cristian_c> Angelo08: puoi intanto controllare l'hash del file .iso?
[14:18] <ilovelinux> Angelo08, hai masterizzato l'iso così e com'è sul dvd?
[14:18] <cristian_c> scaricato
[14:19] <Angelo08> no tranquillo so come si masterizza
[14:20] <Angelo08> l'immagine
[14:20] <Angelo08> ho provato il checksum
[14:20] <Angelo08> su utility disco
[14:20] <Angelo08> su mac
[14:20] <Angelo08> crc-32
[14:20] <Angelo08> solo questo mi da da poter chekkare
[14:20] <cristian_c> Angelo08: md5
[14:21] <cristian_c> non crc-32
[14:21] <Angelo08> non ci sta nella lista
[14:21] <Angelo08> md5
[14:21] <Angelo08> :(
[14:21] <cristian_c> Angelo08: non è così
[14:21] <cristian_c> Angelo08: ma hai aperto il link?
[14:22] <Angelo08> ho provato da utility disco
[14:22] <Angelo08> seguendo il link
[14:22] <Angelo08> provo l'altra modalità da terminale
[14:23] <cristian_c> Angelo08: no
[14:23] <cristian_c> Avviare il programma Utility Disco dal menù del Finder Vai → Utility → Utility Disco.
[14:23] <cristian_c> Spostarsi nella cartella dove è stata scaricata l'immagine di Ubuntu e trascinarla nella dock del programma Utility Disco.
[14:23] <cristian_c> Appena l'immagine disco compare nella colonna di sinistra, selezionare il menù Immagini → Checksum → MD5.
[14:23] <cristian_c> Angelo08: è abbastanza chiaro
[14:25] <Angelo08> ragazzi sto su yosemite
[14:25] <Angelo08> e nella finestrella
[14:25] <Angelo08> md5 non esce fuori
[14:25] <Angelo08> ho provato anche da terminale
[14:25] <Angelo08> e mi da
[14:25] <Angelo08> che il comando md5sum
[14:26] <Angelo08> command not found
[14:26] <Angelo08> XD
[14:26] <cristian_c> uhm
[14:27] <Angelo08> provo al momento
[14:27] <Angelo08> con il nuovo
[14:27] <Angelo08> dvd masterizzato
[14:27] <Angelo08> sento che legge
[14:27] <Angelo08> speriamo bene
[14:27] <Angelo08> ssiiiiiii
[14:27] <Angelo08> partito
[14:30] <cristian_c> mmmm, md5 -r
[14:30] <cristian_c> su mac os x
[14:34] <cristian_c> uhm, senza -r
[15:38] <orangelt> salve, ho un problema col software di disegno CAD Draftsight su Ubuntu 14.04. In sostanza il puntatore del mouse, nell'area di disegno, soffre di un tremendo lag tale da rendere il programma inutilizzabile. Qualcuno può aiutarmi? grazie
[15:39] <Carlin0> orangelt, è software proveniente dai repo ufficiali di ubuntu ?
[15:40] <orangelt> Carlin0, è software proveniente dal loro sito, scaricato come pacchetto .deb
[15:41] <Carlin0> loro di chi ?
[15:41] <orangelt> Carlin0, degli autori di draftsight
[15:41] <Carlin0> orangelt, che pc hai ? cpu ? ram ?
[15:42] <orangelt> Carlin0, ho un laptop con un i3 e 4 gb di ram. Asus p52f
[15:43] <Carlin0> !chat | orangelt
[15:43] <ubot-it> orangelt: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[16:20] <richi86> Salve ho provato sul forum ma non ho ricevuto nessuna risposta, qui c'è qualcuno che può aiutarmi? http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=604944
[16:20] <cristian_c> richi86: puoi tu spigare di cosa si tratta?
[16:20] <cristian_c> così non costringi gli utenti ad aprire il link per capire di cosa stai parlando
[16:21] <richi86> ok scusate
[16:22] <richi86> ho provato ad installare ubuntu 15.10 su un pc con partizione uefi, ma ho avviato per sbaglio dalla "voce" del boot non uefi
[16:22] <richi86> adesso non riesco più ad installare ubuntu
[16:22] <cristian_c> 'ho provato ad installare' <- a che punto ti eri fermato?
[16:23] <richi86> ho fatto partire da usb, mi si apre la schermata con " install ubuntu"
[16:24] <cristian_c> richi86: invece 'try ubuntu' come va?
[16:24] <richi86> non ho provato
[16:24] <richi86> provo e rientro?
[16:24] <cristian_c> richi86: inoltre, caratteristiche del computer?
[16:24] <richi86> asus f555l
[16:25] <cristian_c> richi86: ci sono diverse sku
[16:25] <cristian_c> che caratteristiche ha?
[16:28] <richi86> i7 2ghr , 4 gb ram, 500 gb hd, una nvidia cn 2 gb dedicati
[16:29] <cristian_c> allora
[16:29] <richi86> ah dimenticavo, ho fatto partire sempre da usb boot repair
[16:29] <cristian_c> richi86: prova con 'try ubuntu'
[16:29] <cristian_c> richi86: altrimenti si va di nomodeset
[16:30] <richi86> ok stacco per provare e ti faccio sapere, nel caso posso contattarti direttamente dal live usb o mi conviene uscire?
[16:31] <cristian_c> richi86: se arrivi in live, non dovresti avere problemi
[16:31] <richi86> ok
[16:31] <cristian_c> richi86: ma puoi collegarti anche dalla live
[16:33] <serfio> ci sono ?
[16:34] <serfio> join #ubuntu-it
[16:34] <ilovelinux> ci sei
[16:34] <serfio> bene...
[16:34] <serfio> posso fare domande ?
[16:35] <Carlin0> !chiedi | serfio
[16:35] <ubot-it> serfio: per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-)
[16:35] <richi86> cristian_c, stesso errore!
[16:35] <ilovelinux> gh
[16:36] <serfio> ok. Ho installato lubuntu 10.02 su un vecchio notebook vorrei installare puppylinux vicino che cosa devo fare ? ho l'HD in ext3
[16:37] <cristian_c> richi86: l'errore, esattamente, qual è?
[16:38] <Carlin0> serfio, qui non si da supporto a puppylinux ...
[16:38] <Carlin0> inoltre serfio la 10.04 è fuori supporto
[16:38] <richi86> kernel offset: disabled
[16:39] <cristian_c> richi86: puoi postare una schermata, per farci rendere conto?
[16:39] <serfio> CarlinO: pensavo che trattandosi di Lubuntu qualcuno conosceva la risposta. Comunque altro non posso installare notebook vecchio e resuscitato con Lubuntu ma volevo provare qualcosa di piu "veloce"
[16:40] <richi86> ok scusa non mi sono reso conto che si potesse fare
[16:40] <richi86> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/duZvVb9FRVOAWPXEsq4J
[16:43] <Carlin0> serfio, installa lubuntu 14.04 o 15.10
[16:43] <krabador> serfio, qualcosa di piu' "veloce" se l'hardware tocca l'obsolescenza reale, è dura
[16:43] <Carlin0> non 10.04 che è fuori supporto
[16:44] <serfio> krabador: intendevo un puppy per velocità
[16:44] <krabador> serfio, e qui in che canale sei?
[16:44] <cristian_c> richi86: un attimo
[16:45] <krabador> serfio, cpu , ram , scheda video, di cosa parliamo?
[16:45] <richi86> cristian_c : ok
[16:45] <serfio> krabador, ok 1 gb ram, 80 gb hd, 1,7 ghz, nvidia 32 mb
[16:45] <krabador> serfio, non hai detto nulla
[16:46] <krabador> 1,7ghz, senza modello , non significa nulla
[16:46] <krabador> serfio, nvidia, è come dire "fiat"
[16:46] <serfio> krabador, 1,7 ghz centrino è tutto cio che sò
[16:47] <serfio> krabador, acer travelmate 6000
[16:47] <cristian_c> richi86: hai provato ad avviare la live con uefi abilitato?
[16:47] <cristian_c> richi86: 15.10?
[16:47] <krabador> serfio, in questo momento stai usando questa macchina?
[16:47] <krabador> serfio, se si , con che sistema?
[16:48] <richi86> cristian_c : che vuoi dire, quando seleziono la voce del boot scelgo quella con uefi davanti, si 15.10!
[16:48] <serfio> krabador, no, ripeto ho installato lubuntu 10.04 ma è un po lento
[16:49] <davide96> salve
[16:50] <cristian_c> richi86: avevo capito che avessi avviato in legacy
[16:50] <krabador> serfio, kernel successivi hanno subito ottimizzazioni, cosi' come hanno iniziato a segare supporto per hardware che va a votare
[16:50] <krabador> !ciao | serfio
[16:50] <ubot-it> serfio: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[16:50] <davide96> ho un acer aspire e15 e non riesco ad installare ubuntu
[16:50] <krabador> !ciao | davide96
[16:50] <ubot-it> davide96: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[16:50] <davide96> mi da errore di libreria
[16:50] <krabador> davide96, riporta l'errore
[16:51] <krabador> serfio, ti ho chiesto se stavi usando questa macchina adesso, in ,modo da mandare comandi che riportassero cpu e scheda video
[16:51] <krabador> visto che non sai cosa hai
[16:51] <richi86> cristian_c : una volta per sbaglio, leggendo la guida di installazione, ho letto che è un problema, e consigliano di usare bootrepair
[16:51] <krabador> serfio, impedendo di poterti indicare piu' ottimizzatamente
[16:51] <serfio> krabador, non sto usando quella macchina sono su un win 7 pro
[16:52] <krabador> serfio, si, sei stato fin troppo chiaro prima
[16:52] <krabador> ed in bocca al lupo
[16:52] <cristian_c> richi86: sì, ma dopo aver installato, non in modalità live
[16:53] <davide96> mi esce la schermata nera
[16:53] <davide96> come se il kernel si bloccasse
[16:53] <krabador> davide96, hai parlato di errore
[16:53] <davide96> si
[16:53] <krabador> davide96, se non riporti l'errore, ci giriamo i pollici
[16:53] <davide96> ora cerco di dirti che errore è
[16:54] <krabador> davide96, cosi' come , se non riporti quale ubuntu stai cercando di installare, come hai fatto a fare il supporto di installazione,e che cpu , ram , scheda video ha il pc
[16:54] <krabador> il modello del pc, ingrassa i pesce
[16:54] <krabador> *i
[16:55] <richi86> cristian_c : allora, ho provato la prima volta ad installare sempre da live usb (uefi) ed è partito, solo che non mi ha fatto selezionare la partizione su cui installare ubuntu, quindo ho deciso di uscire per non rischiare di cancellare windows, riprovando erroneamente ho fatto partire da legacy e da li l'errore
[16:55] <krabador> richi86, installando da legacy , con windows installato in uefi, devi correggere il boot
[16:55] <krabador> richi86, non è mai avvenuta l'installazione?
[16:56] <cristian_c> richi86: potevi dirle prima le cose, eh?
[16:56] <richi86> cristian_c : quindi boot-repair? ho già provato ma non funziona. No non ho mai installato
[16:57] <richi86> cristian_c : scusami credevo di averlo detto prima di riavviare
[16:57] <Mic77> Buonasera, non riesco a configurare una wacom CTH490. potete aiutarmi?
[16:57] <cristian_c> richi86: ma la live dovrebbe partire comunque, in uefi p legacy
[16:57] <cristian_c> o
[16:57] <krabador> richi86, pc in uefi, fa partire il supporto con "try" , attacca il cavo lan, se la wireless non viene vista
[16:57] <krabador> richi86, apri questa chat, apri il terminale
[16:57] <krabador> sudo gparted
[16:58] <krabador> fa uno screen di cio' che gparted ti fa vedere
[16:59] <richi86> cristian_c , krabador: ho provato poco fa senza attaccarlo in lan, e non mi è partita la "try", devo attaccare alla lan e riprovare a far partire la "try" in legacy o in uefi?
[17:00] <krabador> richi86, se non è partita "try" per un motivo di compatibilità hardware, non parte neanche se attacchi il cavo
[17:00] <krabador> richi86, in uefi
[17:00] <krabador> richi86, riprova a far partire sessione di prova con uefi abilitato
[17:01] <richi86> krabador: ho provato 5 minuti fa, mi ha fatto fare la prova cristian_c
[17:01] <richi86> krabador: ho sempre la stessa schermata
[17:02] <krabador> richi86, premi il tasto "e" della tastiera in corrispondenza di "try ..."
[17:02] <krabador> ti posizioni dove c'è quiet splash, cancelli, digita , con spazi a fianco a destra e sinistra, da cio' che viene prima e cio' che viene dopo
[17:02] <krabador> nomodeset
[17:03] <krabador> noapic
[17:03] <krabador> nolapic
[17:03] <krabador> premi poi f10
[17:03] <krabador> vedi cosa fa
[17:04] <richi86> krabador: quindi avvio da usb in uefi, alla schemata dove devo selezionare "try , "install" ,ecc. premo la "e"?
[17:04] <cristian_c> u try
[17:04] <cristian_c> su
[17:04] <krabador> richi86, <krabador> richi86, premi il tasto "e" della tastiera in corrispondenza di "try ..."
[17:04] <krabador> è abbastanza chiaro, no?
[17:05] <richi86> cristian_c , krabador: ok
[17:05] <richi86> cristian_c , krabador: provo e vi faccio sapere
[17:22] <richi86> cristian_c , krabador : https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/SuWqbXYmSoar6jcI6T6R
[17:23] <richi86> cristian_c , krabador : ho anche provato a cacellare tutta la riga
[17:23] <richi86> cristian_c , krabador : e anche cancellare fino a "casper"
[17:24] <krabador> richi86, che fai , prendi iniziative, senza sapere a cosa servono le cose?
[17:24] <krabador> cancellando cose a caso li, è SCONTATO che non vada
[17:24] <krabador> se hai posizionato cio' che ti è stato indicato, nel posto giusto, e non va, è un conto
[17:25] <richi86> krabador : posizionati su quiet splash , cancella....
[17:25] <richi86> krabador : non ho ben capito cosa cancellare
[17:25] <krabador> quiet splash
[17:26] <krabador> solo quiet splash
[17:26] <richi86> krabador : ok, credo di aver già provato, ma per sicurezza faccio un altro tentativo
[17:27] <cristian_c> richi86: postaci anche una foto della modifica, se riesci
[17:27] <richi86> krabador : la sequenza con gli spazi è giusta?
[17:27] <richi86> cristian_c: certo
[17:28] <richi86> cristian_c , krabador : scusate ma nella foto che ho postato ho cacellato solo "quiet splash"! o sbaglio?
[17:29] <cristian_c> richi86: dovresti
[17:29] <cristian_c> ma posta pure
[17:30] <krabador> abbiamo anche il cavaliere d'oro del leone...
[17:30] <ioria> ^_?
[17:30] <richi86> cristian_c :https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/SuWqbXYmSoar6jcI6T6R , se non sbaglio in questa prova ho cancellato solo "quiet splash"
[17:31] <richi86> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/SuWqbXYmSoar6jcI6T6R
[17:32] <cristian_c> richi86: hai cancellato anche ro?
[17:35] <richi86> cristian_c : https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/AJUfQFIkQOyXVLxjTqi4 ecco com'era quando sono entrato la prima volta
[17:35] <michele993> salve ragazzi, come mai non vedo le anteprime delle foto in ubuntu?
[17:35] <richi86> cristian_c : non vedo nessuna "ro"
[17:36] <cristian_c> !veggenti ! michele993
[17:36] <ubot-it> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[17:36] <krabador> michele993, incosciamente non vuoi
[17:36] <cristian_c> !veggenti | michele993
[17:36] <ubot-it> michele993: Gli utenti di questo canale non sono in possesso di poteri magici, non possiedono sfere di cristallo e non sono nemmeno veggenti. Canonical non può permettersi un corso di stregoneria per i suoi collaboratori. Si chiede quindi, gentilmente, di esprimersi in maniera chiara e molto dettagliata.
[17:36] <krabador> michele993, ed i tuoi sensi si organizzano per questa cosa
[17:37] <michele993> praticamente vorrei che in ogni cartella in cui vi sono immagini, potesi visualizzare un anteprima di questa, piuttosto che la semplice icona...
[17:37] <michele993> sono stato chiaro adesso?
[17:38] <richi86> cristian_c : ci sei?
[17:38] <krabador> michele993, fin quando non è chiaro che sistema usi, non sei stato chiaro.
[17:39] <michele993> ubuntu l'ho detto gia prima...
[17:39] <michele993> la versione è la 14.04
[17:39] <michele993> lts
[17:39] <krabador> adesso sei stato chiaro
[17:39] <cristian_c> richi86: le persone non sono a tua disposizione
[17:39] <michele993> azz
[17:39] <cristian_c> che gli dici 'c6?'
[17:39] <krabador> michele993, "<michele993> ubuntu l'ho detto gia prima..." te lo puoi sbattere, in supporto
[17:40] <michele993> siete in grado o no?
[17:40] <richi86> cristian_c : per carità, ho visto che scrivevi, senza rispondere alla mia domanda, però se sono stato inopportuno mi scuso
[17:40] <ioria> michele993, non vedi le anteprime di tutte le immagini o solo di alcuni formati ?
[17:41] <richi86> cristian_c : sicuramente quello che fai lo fai per farmi un favore
[17:41] <michele993> per il momento ho davanti dei semplici jpeg
[17:41] <michele993> files.jpg
[17:41] <ioria> michele993, dovresti vederle .... col terminale prova xdg-open file.jpg
[17:41] <cristian_c> richi86: magari ci vuole un po' di pazienza, e aspettare
[17:42] <richi86> cristian_c : senza dubbio!
[17:44] <richi86> cristian_c : ripeto non volevo farti premura
[17:45] <cristian_c> richi86: 1) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1751574
[17:45] <ioria> michele993, oppure apri nautilus, spostati nella cartella e premi ctrl + 2
[17:46] <cristian_c> richi86: http://askubuntu.com/questions/532835/kernel-panic-not-syncing-vfs-unable-to-mount-root-fs-on-unknown-block0-2
[17:48] <michele993> nulla
[17:48] <krabador> richi86, com'è installata la pendrive?
[17:49] <ioria> michele993, xdg-open file.jpg non apre l'immagine ?
[17:49] <richi86> cristian_c : unebootin!
[17:49] <michele993> aspe provo
[17:49] <krabador> ioria, non è stato in grado
[17:49] <cristian_c> richi86: ?
[17:49] <krabador> è uno così
[17:49] <richi86> krabador: unebootin
[17:49] <ioria> °_°
[17:49] <richi86> cristian_c : scusa dovevo scrivere a krabador.
[17:49] <krabador> richi86, scusami, com'è formattata, la pendrive
[17:50] <richi86> cristian_c : per far partire il promt dei comandi devo premere "c" all'avvio del PC?
[17:50] <richi86> krabador: fat32
[17:50] <cristian_c> richi86: ora è chiaro
[17:51] <cristian_c> il problema
[17:51] <krabador> richi86, rifà la pendrive con universal usb installer
[17:51] <krabador> !usbwin | richi86
[17:51] <ubot-it> richi86: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[17:51] <krabador> richi86, formatta, e rifà la pendrive
[17:51] <michele993> me la apre
[17:52] <richi86> cristian_c, krabador: ok grazie, provo e vi faccio sapere
[17:52] <ioria> michele993, ctrl +2 cosa ottieni ?
[17:53] <michele993> la visualizzazione a elenco
[17:53] <ioria> michele993, ctrl +1
[17:53] <michele993> icone scusa
[17:53] <michele993> con ctrl+1 ottengo quella a elenco
[17:53] <michele993> :)
[17:54] <krabador> ioria, te l'ho detto che non è in grado
[17:54] <michele993> zitto sto facendo tutto quello che mi dice
[17:54] <ioria> michele993, ok .... dal menu di nautilus modifica -> preferenze -> preview o anteprima
[17:55] <krabador> sisi, in maniera pronta ed efficiente
[17:55] <michele993> krabrador tu in maniera pronta ed efficiente non sei stato d'aiuto
[17:55] <richi86> cristian_c , krabador : raga, devo riscaricare l'iso perchè credo di averlo cancellato, perderò un bel pò vista la connessione lenta.
[17:55] <michele993> :)
[17:55] <michele993> anteprima l'ho già fatto prima e sta messo mostrare provini e le miniature= sempre
[17:56] <ioria> michele993, no farlo arrabbiare ....
[17:56] <ioria> troppo tardi
[17:56] <michele993> bravo krabrador bravo
[17:57] <ioria> michele993, non farlo arrabbiare .... concentriamo sul lavoro :-)
[17:57] <michele993> si, grazie...(no words)
[17:57] <ioria> michele993, modifica -> preferenze -> e vai all'ultimo tab
[17:57] <michele993> ci sono
[17:58] <ioria> michele993, dovrebbe essere preview o anteprima... giusto ?
[17:58] <michele993> Anteprima
[17:58] <ioria> michele993, ok, come è settato ?
[17:58] <michele993> mostrare i provini e le miniature ho messo sempre
[17:59] <ioria> michele993, ok,
[17:59] <michele993> solo per file più piccoli di 10mb
[17:59] <michele993> le immagini della cartella sono di pochi kb
[17:59] <ioria> michele993, ok
[18:00] <ioria> michele993, riprova con ctrl +1 ctrl +2
[18:00] <michele993> idem
[18:01] <ioria> michele993, cat /etc/issue
[18:01] <michele993> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[18:02] <ioria> michele993, unity ?
[18:02] <michele993> si credo di si
[18:02] <krabador> eeeh, non è in grado..
[18:03] <michele993> kiudi il bekko krabrador
[18:03] <krabador> neanche di autocompletare...
[18:03] <ioria> michele993, puoi provare a scaricare un immaggine qualsiasi dal web e vedere se non cambia nulla ?
[18:04] <michele993> adesso provo
[18:04] <michele993> anche sulla scrivania
[18:04] <michele993> mi mostra sempre l'icona JPG
[18:05] <michele993> e ho scaricato una foto da goole
[18:05] <michele993> google*
[18:06] <ioria> michele993, ls ~/.cache/ e vedi chi è il proprietario della cartella thumbnails
[18:06] <krabador> sudo rm -R ~/.thumbnails , ricreala, riavvia
[18:06] <krabador> sudo rm -R ~/.cache/thumbnails , ricreala, riavvia
[18:07] <krabador> il secondo
[18:08] <ioria> michele993, oppure incolla qui tutta la riga che corisponde a thumbnails
[18:08] <michele993> come controllo il proprietario della cartella?
[18:09] <ioria> michele993, compare il tuo user o root ?
[18:09] <krabador> allora non sei proprio in grado ...
[18:09] <ragnobenevolo> sto installando xampp. mi dice però quando uso il comando sudo chmod 755 xampp-linux-*-installer.run che è impossibile accedere al file perchè non esistente . ? l'ho scaricato in home come dice la guida.
[18:09] <krabador> ragnobenevolo, la guida quale?
[18:09] <ragnobenevolo> ubuntu wiki
[18:09] <ragnobenevolo> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Server/Xampp
[18:10] <krabador> ragnobenevolo, ti sei preoccupato , nel terminale, di stare nella cartella in cui è contenuto il file?
[18:10] <krabador> dove hai scaricato il file?
[18:10] <ragnobenevolo> ho messo /home dove lho scaricato
[18:10] <ioria> michele993, è una riga come questa : drwx------ 7 user user 4096 Jul 10 06:42 thumbnails user = il tuo user
[18:11] <krabador> ragnobenevolo, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:11] <krabador> ragnobenevolo, ls -la /home/utente | pastebinit ---> con utente che deve corrispondere al nome corretto dell'utente
[18:12] <michele993> il mio user è Michele
[18:14] <ioria> michele993, e compare sulla riga corrispondente a thumbnails
[18:14] <ioria> ?
[18:14] <ragnobenevolo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13517315/
[18:15] <krabador> ragnobenevolo, infatti non c'è
[18:15] <krabador> ragnobenevolo, c'è xampp-linux-5.5.30-4-installer.run.part
[18:15] <krabador> è un frammento
[18:15] <ragnobenevolo> lho scaricato pure
[18:16] <ragnobenevolo> ah ok era andato in errore il download...
[18:16] <michele993> quando do ls ~/.cache/ mi appare solo la lista delle cartelle/file
[18:17] <ioria> michele993, ls -l ~/.cache/
[18:17] <michele993> aaah ecco
[18:17] <michele993> drwx------ 7 michele michele 4096 nov 10 11:49 thumbnails
[18:19] <ioria> michele993, ok... contolliamo anche questo la cartella .thumbnails in home ls -al ~
[18:20] <michele993> drwx------ 3 michele michele 4096 nov 19 2014 .thumbnails
[18:22] <ioria> michele993, mmmm
[18:25] <ioria> michele993, proviamo un back up di queste due cartelle mv ~/.thumbnails ~/thumnails.bak e mv ~/.cache/thumbnails ~/.cache/thumbnails.bak
[18:26] <ioria> michele993, proviamo un back up di queste due cartelle mv ~/.thumbnails ~/thumbnails.bak e mv ~/.cache/thumbnails ~/.cache/thumbnails.bak
[18:26] <michele993> fatto
[18:26] <ragnobenevolo> ok krabador, ora lho scaricato per bene e lho messo in home/utente. ho dato il comando ma non succede nulla...
[18:27] <cristian_c> !paste | ragnobenevolo
[18:27] <ioria> michele993, ls ~/.cache/thumbnails.bak ?
[18:27] <michele993> fail large normal original xlarge
[18:28] <ioria> michele993, ls ~/thumnails.bak ?
[18:28] <ioria> michele993, ls ~/thumbnails.bak ?
[18:28] <michele993> hai sbagliato a scrivere
[18:28] <ioria> yes
[18:28] <michele993> normal
[18:29] <krabador> ragnobenevolo, ls -la /home/utente | pastebinit , stessa storia
[18:29] <ioria> michele993, logout / login prova altrimenti rimettiamo tutto a posto
[18:29] <michele993> ok
[18:29] <ragnobenevolo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13517498/
[18:30] <michele993> weii
[18:30] <krabador> ragnobenevolo, sudo chmod 755 /home/utente/xampp-linux-5.5.30-4-installer.run
[18:31] <michele993> risolto tutto
[18:31] <ioria> michele993, bravo !
[18:31] <ragnobenevolo> non succede nulla
[18:31] <michele993> strano
[18:31] <krabador> non deve
[18:32] <michele993> abbiamo fatto solo i bakup
[18:32] <michele993> come mai sono apparsi
[18:32] <ragnobenevolo> ah ok ora avvio l'installer, grazie
[18:32] <ioria> michele993, esiste anche un pacchetto di codecs in ubuntu-restricted-extras .....
[18:32] <krabador> ragnobenevolo, quei comandi sono andati a buon fine, quando non danno output
[18:32] <ioria> !info ubuntu--restricted-extras | michele993
[18:33] <ioria> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | michele993
[18:34] <ioria> michele993, insomma questo ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:34] <michele993> lol
[18:35] <michele993> serve per gli altri formati
[18:35] <michele993> justo?
[18:36] <ioria> michele993, se qulche formato non ti compare installalo e digita sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[18:36] <ioria> michele993, si
[18:36] <michele993> mi andava bene
[18:36] <michele993> cmq sto installando comunque
[18:37] <ioria> michele993, devi dare qualche conferma durante l'installazione ...
[18:37] <michele993> no a me è andato tranquillamente
[18:37] <ioria> michele993, ????
[18:38] <michele993> senza conferme
[18:38] <ioria> michele993, con -y ?
[18:38] <michele993> non mi ha chiesto nessuna y
[18:38] <ioria> michele993, buffo ....
[18:38] <michele993> aspe ho dato questo sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[19:19] <acpikills> buonasera a tutti
[21:03] <michele993> domanda... se scrivo steam sul terminale si avvia steam, perso se inserisco steam come comando in applicazioni d'accio in ubuntu non va, cioè all'avvio non si apre
[21:04] <michele993> avvio*
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-es
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[21:18] <bertha> hola
[21:44] <Vsg21> buenas tardes.
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-us-wi
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[03:16] <mikeputnam> tsimonq2: pong
[03:19] <tsimonq2> mikeputnam: workin' hard on the LoCo wiki pages
[03:19] <tsimonq2> mikeputnam: I want to make it better and up-to-date
[03:20] <tsimonq2> mikeputnam: so I had Alex Dueppen make us some badges and there we go!
[03:21] <tsimonq2> mikeputnam: I have been spending the last few hours making the stuff for the LoCo great
[03:40] <mikeputnam> cool
[03:41] <tsimonq2> mikeputnam: any suggestions for the wiki page?
[03:42] <mikeputnam> lookin' good
[03:42] <mikeputnam> brb firewall reload
[03:43] <tsimonq2> mikeputnam: ok :D
[03:47] <tsimonq2> oh?
[15:40] <tsimonq2> http://is.gd/dR9qNV
[15:41] <tsimonq2> h00k: ^
[21:04] <Chicken_Wrap> Sure is roomy in here.
[21:05] <tsimonq2> o/ Chicken_Wrap, but you are not from Wisconsin
[21:05] <tsimonq2> Chicken_Wrap: or are you?
[21:07] <Chicken_Wrap> Nope. Just felt like popping in. :^)
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-26-#juju
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[13:03] <apuimedo> jamespage: gnuoy: I'm getting lxc deployment failures on 1.25.0
[13:03] <apuimedo> any idea?
[13:03] <apuimedo> it worked on one of the machines provided by maas, doesn't work at all in another
[13:03] <apuimedo> agent-state-info: lxc container cloning failed
[13:04] <apuimedo> (I have to say that it is for precise, I don't know if that matters)
[13:11] <suchvenu> Hi
[13:11] <suchvenu> We have upgraded to latest 1.25 version of juju where unitnames are created in sequential order
[13:12] <suchvenu> Previously we had used the following code in amulet test , unit_manager_0 = d.sentry.unit['charmname/0']
[13:12] <suchvenu> Now using unit_manager_0 = d.sentry['charmname'][0]
[13:12] <suchvenu> which is working right
[13:13] <suchvenu> we had also used juju action in amulet as follows
[13:13] <suchvenu> uuid = d.action_do('ibm-db2/0', 'download', {"username": config.get('
[13:14] <suchvenu> How do we correct this for the 1.25 version of Juju ?
[13:14] <suchvenu> I mean how to provide the unit name ?
[13:27] <Icey> is it possible to use config values for some settings, unless a specific relation exists? I'd like to support using an external database provided by juju through a relation, OR a config specified one, and I'd like the relation to override the config
[13:31] <apuimedo> cherylj_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1441319
[13:31] <mup> Bug #1441319: intermittent: failed to retrieve the template to clone: template container juju-trusty-lxc-template did not stop <canonical-bootstack> <cisco> <cpec> <deployer> <landscape> <lxc> <oil> <regression> <systemd> <upstart> <juju-core:Triaged by cherylj> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441319>
[14:10] <apuimedo> cherylj_: added logs
[14:18] <roadmr> heya folks, I think I found a bug with juju not firing the leader-elected hooks: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1519994
[14:18] <mup> Bug #1519994: leader-elected hook never fires <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519994>
[14:31] <Prabakaran> Hello Matt,
[15:25] <suchvenu> hi
[15:25] <suchvenu> I want to give a juju action on a unit name as juju action do charmname/0 download
[15:26] <suchvenu> With latest version of Juju the unit names are increasing in sequential order, How can I give the unitname in juju action ?
[15:27] <suchvenu> Can anyone pls help
[15:42] <marcoceppi> suchvenu: what do you mean get the unit name?
[15:42] <marcoceppi> suchvenu: you can just use `juju status ` to find the unit name
[16:56] <suchvenu> Hi MArco
[16:57] <suchvenu> I want to add juju action in amulet test and want to give the unit name there. For each deployment the unit name changes as charmname/0, charmname/1 etc
[16:57] <suchvenu> So i may not know which is the unitname i need to give in juju action in amulet test
[16:58] <suchvenu> before for getting the unit manager in amulet we used to call unit_manager_0 = d.sentry.unit['charmname/0']
[16:58] <Prabakaran> Can anyone help me how to deploy openjdk layer charm available in the link https://github.com/juju-solutions/layer-openjdk as i am not able to find the deployment steps in the README.md file.
[16:59] <suchvenu> But now with latest version of Juju 1.25, this gives an error as the unit names keeps increasing as charmname/1, charmname/2 etc
[16:59] <suchvenu> We could get the unit name with this comamnd now : unit_manager_0 = d.sentry['charmname'][0]
[17:00] <suchvenu> Similarly for juju action, how do we do it ?
[17:00] <suchvenu> marcoceppi, are you able to understand my query ?
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2015-11-26-#xubuntu
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[08:23] <xubuntu94w> HI, anyone there to help with sound setting problem in system tray?
[08:30] <KP> Hi, having trouble with sound settings in system tray, anyone help?
[08:38] <KP> anyone?
[08:57] <koka> could you pastebin the content of a file in ~/.config/autostart
[09:10] <koka> anyone using transmission?
[09:26] <NoobLurks> toren
[12:50] <jarnos> How do you report a bug about fan running too high speed after resume from suspend to RAM?
[12:51] <cfhowlett> !bug | jarnos
[12:53] <flocculant> jarnos: all the bugs I've seen relating to that appear to be reported against linux
[12:56] <flocculant> jarnos: and the answer here might be of use http://askubuntu.com/questions/531882/high-fan-speed-after-suspend
[13:05] <jarnos> flocculant, well, fancontrol is not even installed in default Xubuntu system.
[13:52] <xubuntu76w> xubuntu instal 4 hours
[14:01] <jarnos> I restarted my xubuntu 15.10 recently and now the splash screen tells: "Press Ctrl-C to cancel file system checks in progress." I have an SSD in the notebook, so I wonder how long such check may take. There is no indication of progress.
[14:05] <jarnos> flocculant, I reported bug 1520242
[14:06] <jarnos> Pressing Ctrl+C did not help to pass the filesystem check.
[14:24] <nrpil> that is really not cool. still have problems opening libreoffice documents from a samba share and just tried linux mint xfce edition. works ! cannot see what it does different ?
[16:10] <fsociety[00]dat> hi #xubuntu :)
[16:14] <fsociety[00]dat> Unit193: are you there?
[16:14] <fsociety[00]dat> I want to install Xubuntu Core via mini.iso but I remember that installer does not show tasksel to select anything and it installs only minimal system. I use it in expert mode.
[16:15] <fsociety[00]dat> I don't want to install it like " sudo apt-get install xubuntu-core^ "
[16:20] <krytarik> fsociety[00]dat: "download the mini.iso, install, and when prompted, install the Xubuntu minimal installation task" - no?
[16:22] <fsociety[00]dat> krytarik: tasksel does not prompt anything. It skips to ask my choose and installs only text based core system.
[16:59] <xubuntu17w> Hi, i have problems with switching off. Xubuntu gets stuck on Xubuntu screen
[16:59] <function9x> ok
[17:00] <xubuntu17w> i have tried recovery mode in the boot option menu
[17:00] <xubuntu17w> no changes
[17:00] <function9x> ok
[17:00] <function9x> what does the logs say?
[17:01] <xubuntu17w> how do i make a log?
[17:01] <xubuntu17w> or can i see a log?
[17:02] <function9x> xubuntu17w: logs are located in /var/log
[17:02] <function9x> check syslog first
[17:03] <xubuntu17w> ok... what is the best way to see them?
[17:04] <xubuntu17w> or find it?
[17:05] <function9x> xubuntu17w: cat or tail and many others
[17:05] <function9x> bbl kettle
[17:09] <xubuntu17w> i found /var/log/
[17:11] <xubuntu17w> witch syslog do you ask for?
[17:12] <xubuntu17w> there are mutiple ones
[17:13] <xubuntu17w> Nov 25 15:11:13 peter-K8NF4G-SATA2 rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="7.4.4" x-pid="445" x-info="http://www.rsyslog.com"] rsyslogd was HUPed Nov 25 15:11:29 peter-K8NF4G-SATA2 anacron[924]: Job `cron.daily' terminated Nov 25 15:11:29 peter-K8NF4G-SATA2 anacron[924]: Normal exit (1 job run) Nov 25 15:17:01 peter-K8NF4G-SATA2 CRON[2719]: (root) CMD ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly) Nov 25 15:32:30 pete
[17:15] <xubuntu17w> on my screen there was more text...
[17:15] <krytarik> !pastebin | xubuntu17w
[17:16] <xubuntu17w> ok, i'm new at this...
[17:18] <xubuntu17w> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13516674/
[17:22] <xubuntu17w> Was this usefull?
[17:25] <xubuntu95d> Hi
[17:25] <xubuntu95d> ineed help
[17:25] <xubuntu95d> trooble maybe in library
[17:26] <xubuntu95d> it is the error: E:Type 'sudo' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mono-xamarin.list, E:The list of sources could not be read., E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[17:29] <krytarik> xubuntu95d: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mono-xamarin.list", then fix it manually.
[17:30] <xubuntu17w> any advice on my pastebin?
[17:30] <xubuntu95d> many thanks
[17:32] <function9x> xubuntu95d: ok you got a couple of crashes there. Start with the easy one first: cairo-dock. Go to the cairo-dock forums and report the bug
[17:32] <krytarik> xubuntu17w: Didn't you indicate you cannot boot? Then the log shouldn't look like that.
[17:33] <function9x> bbl need to do some soldering
no, i have trouble shutting off. pc freezes on Xubuntu screen...
[17:34] <function9x> err xubuntu17w
[17:34] <function9x> xubuntu17w: : ok you got a couple of crashes there. Start with the easy one first: cairo-dock. Go to the cairo-dock forums and report the bug
[17:35] <function9x> damn auto complete
[17:35] <function9x> bbl
[17:35] <krytarik> xubuntu17w: Alright, this confused me: "i have tried recovery mode in the boot option menu".
[17:36] <krytarik> xubuntu17w: Same on restart though?
[17:37] <xubuntu17w> krytarik>: i had a cairo-dock crash just now indeed. booting is no problem. shutting off hangs on shuting of screen with xubuntu text. Yes, restart doesnt work either.
[17:41] <xubuntu95d> krytarik i have done so you wrote but now I don't know to continue
[17:42] <xubuntu95d> == krytarik i have done so you wrote but now I don't know to continue
[17:42] <krytarik> xubuntu95d: Saved the modified file?
[17:42] <xubuntu95d> no
[17:42] <xubuntu95d> wht is the file format?
[17:42] <xubuntu95d> do?
[17:43] <xubuntu95d> sorry
[17:43] <xubuntu95d> dos?
[17:43] <krytarik> Plain text.
[17:44] <krytarik> xubuntu95d: But modified, yes?
[17:45] <krytarik> xubuntu95d: That is, fix the concerning 'deb' line.
[17:46] <xubuntu95d> format dos?
[17:46] <xubuntu95d> format mac?
[17:47] <xubuntu95d> backup file
[17:49] <krytarik> xubuntu17w: Did it work at any point? Also, I take it that's 14.04 with the Vivid HWE stack.
[17:49] <krytarik> xubuntu95d: What are you trying to ask?
i resently installed 14.04 LTS and in the begin it worked. what is Vivid HWE stack?
[17:52] <krytarik> !hwe
[17:52] <krytarik> Installed by default then.
[17:53] <krytarik> xubuntu17w: Tried an earlier kernel listed in the boot menu yet?
no, did not try a nother kernel. i think there are two listed.../
[17:58] <krytarik> xubuntu17w: They'd be listed under a submenu called "Advanced options for Ubuntu".
[17:59] <xubuntu17w> krytarik: if that works, do i have to boot every time on that kernel?
[17:59] <krytarik> Until any later kernel version works for again, yes.
[18:00] <krytarik> + you
[18:00] <xubuntu17w> okay, i try boot again now... thank for now krytarik...
[18:00] <krytarik> Sure.
[18:15] <xubuntu17w> krytarik: using an earlyer kernel does switch off the PC...
[18:15] <krytarik> xubuntu17w: Yay... :P
[18:16] <xubuntu17w> yeah... ;-)
[18:16] <xubuntu17w> thanks!
[18:17] <xubuntu17w> Bye...
[18:20] <krytarik> LP bug 1501736 - even though they're gone already.
[19:51] <arpad02> hi, I don't know how to change the NVIDIA prime profiles in Nvidia XServer Settings. when I select the Nvidia profile it asks for password and restart, buit after restart the profile is not changed.
[19:52] <Kris1970> Unable to select sound settings in system tray, can anyone advise?
[19:53] <function9x> Kris1970: more detail please
[19:56] <Kris1970> hi function 9x: when i click on the sytem tray icon for the sound a menu pops up, at the bottom is the sound settings, clicking that should i believe open ths sound settings but it does nothing. this is on Xubuntu 15.10
[19:57] <function9x> ok
[19:57] <function9x> anything in the logs?
[19:58] <Kris1970> Good question, how would i check that? Never done that before!
[19:58] <function9x> Kris1970: cat /var/log/syslog is a good start
[19:58] <xubuntu95d> about last question
[19:58] <xubuntu95d> it is the error: E:Type 'sudo' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mono-xamarin.list, E:The list of sources could not be read., E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened
[19:59] <function9x> Kris1970: or tail -f /var/log/syslog
[19:59] <xubuntu95d> after nano command
[19:59] <xubuntu95d> how can I modify manually /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mono-xamarin.list??what have I write?
[19:59] <flocculant> xubuntu95d: probably just need to edit line 1, but to make sure run cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mono-xamarin.list|pastebinit
[20:00] <flocculant> then let us have the url you'll get
[20:00] <function9x> Kris1970: after you run tail, try clicking on your sound settings and see if anything pops up on syslog
[20:01] <xubuntu95d> done
[20:01] <xubuntu95d> now?
[20:01] <xubuntu95d> i wrote "cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mono-xamarin.list|pastebinit
[20:01] <flocculant> xubuntu95d: you've not done ... what's the url?
[20:01] <xubuntu95d> shit
[20:02] <xubuntu95d> url?
[20:02] <flocculant> running that command in the terminal will give you the pastebin link
[20:03] <xubuntu95d> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13518459/
[20:03] <flocculant> heh
[20:03] <flocculant> ok so that's no use at all
[20:03] <Kris1970> OK, i opened the log and i also typed the command in the terminal, nothing new appeared when i tried to access the sound settings via the system tray icon though.
[20:03] <flocculant> xubuntu95d: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mono-xamarin.list
[20:04] <flocculant> xubuntu95d: that'll remove that useless source list, then you can go back to wherever you found this source and have another go
[20:04] <function9x> Kris1970: ok
[20:04] <xubuntu95d> done
[20:05] <function9x> Kris1970: pastebin your syslog && dmesg
[20:05] <xubuntu95d> and now?
[20:05] <flocculant> xubuntu95d: read what I told you
[20:05] <xubuntu95d> wonderfull
[20:05] <xubuntu95d> many thanks
[20:06] <flocculant> Kris1970: if pavucontrol's not starting - do you have it? try running from a terminal
[20:06] <flocculant> Kris1970: you could also try restarting the panel Alt+F2 xfce4-panel --restart then launch
[20:07] <flocculant> xubuntu95d: I don't know what instructions you followed, but I doubt it told you to add those lines to that file :)
[20:09] <xubuntu95d> the problem is ubuntu software center that show error
[20:09] <flocculant> no
[20:09] <xubuntu95d> now is runnig
[20:09] <flocculant> xubuntu95d: that's the outcome of you building that source list wrong :)
[20:10] <Kris1970> Sorry, pavucontrol appears to be running and i've restarted the panel a few times now, still no joy
[20:10] <xubuntu95d> ok
[20:10] <flocculant> Kris1970: k - just thought I'd check
[20:10] <flocculant> try reinstalling indicator-sound perhaps
[20:11] <xubuntu95d> i did write many lines to install pipelight to see silverlight
[20:12] <xubuntu95d> again
[20:12] <xubuntu95d> E:Type 'sudo' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mono-xamarin.list, E:The list of sources could not be read., E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[20:12] <flocculant> xubuntu95d: what are you reading that tells you to do that?
[20:13] <xubuntu95d> about update-manager pack
[20:15] <Kris1970> flocculant: not sure how to do that, selected properties and can only find option to hide not remove or add.
[20:18] <flocculant> Kris1970: I meant actually reinstall the package, sudo apt-get install --reinstall indicator-sound
[20:19] <flocculant> xubuntu95d: that makes no sense - what is making you redo the file causing the error - what are information are you following?
[20:21] <flocculant> Kris1970: also as far as logs go you might have something in .cache/upstart
[20:22] <Kris1970> flocculant: comes back with: Command line option --reinstall is not understood, when i do that.
[20:23] <flocculant> Kris1970: two -'s ?
[20:24] <Kris1970> flocculant: in the .cache/upstart log it states: unable to launch sound settings: Failed to execute child process "gnome-control-center" (No such file or directory)
[20:24] <xubuntu95d> I can't download software update
[20:25] <flocculant> xubuntu95d: if you have the same error after you rm'd the source list - why did you add it back? especially when you knew it was wrong?
[20:26] <flocculant> xubuntu95d: again - what are you using for the information?
[20:27] <flocculant> Kris1970: mmm - well that's odd.
[20:27] <flocculant> Kris1970: and this is a real xubuntu install? not something else with xubuntu or xfce added?
[20:28] <Kris1970> flocculant: No, it's a clean install of Xubuntu 15.10
[20:30] <flocculant> did you retry reinstalling it with yet?
[20:31] <flocculant> s/with two -'s before reinstall
[20:31] <Kris1970> Do you mean re-installing 'gnome-control-centre'?
[20:34] <flocculant> Kris1970: sudo apt-get install --reinstall indicator-sound
[20:39] <Kris1970> flocculant: Got you, reinstalled indicator-sound still nothing, restarted panel afterwards, still no luck. Thought i'd try to install the gnome-control-center but all that did was bring up a partial ubuntu settings menu, that oddly did not include sound!
[20:40] <flocculant> Kris1970: ok - not at all sure what's going on there
[20:40] <flocculant> Kris1970: it shouldn't be wanting that installed
[20:42] <Kris1970> it's odd, i take it no one else has had the same problem with 15.10?
[20:42] <flocculant> not seen or heard of this
[20:45] <Kris1970> oh well, it's not a deal breaker, just like things to do what they state on the can, if you know what i mean?
[20:48] <flocculant> yea for usre
[20:48] <flocculant> you can report it - someone else might be able to confirm
[20:49] <flocculant> Kris1970: if you're wanting to you could remove indicator-sound and install xfce4-soundmenu-plugin which is something we're low-level testing with
[20:50] <flocculant> Kris1970: can you echo $DESKTOP_SESSION in a terminal
[20:51] <Kris1970> flocculant: that terminal command returns: xfce
[20:52] <flocculant> right
[20:52] <Unit193> Kris1970: That's your problem, you're using the Xfce session and not actually Xubuntu.
[20:52] <flocculant> should be xubuntu
[20:52] <function9x> mine says xubuntu
[20:53] <flocculant> function9x: yep - it should :)
[20:54] * flocculant can never remember which bits to delete when logged out - Unit193 might :)
[20:54] <Kris1970> How did that happen ? How do i change it?
[20:54] <Unit193> indicator-sound checks for 'xubuntu' or 'ubuntustudio' first and uses pavucontrol if found, then mate and mate-volume-control, then unity and checks that unity-control-center is in the path using 'unity-control-center sound' if both are accurate, then lastly just goes with 'gnome-control-center sound'
[21:00] <Kris1970> Would this work - sudo ./lightdm-set-defaults --session xubuntu - to change the desktop session from xfce to xubuntu?
[21:01] <Kris1970> answered my own question, no!
[21:03] <flocculant> Kris1970: sorry was afk
[21:03] <flocculant> can't remember tbh, but it's not that :)
[21:04] <Kris1970> flocculant: i'm set for auto login, so no menu to change the desktop session, do you know how to change back to request password?
[21:04] <flocculant> oh my
[21:05] <krytarik> Kris1970: Just log out.
[21:06] <Kris1970> krytarik: why didn't i just think of that. ok, back in a mo!
[21:21] <KP> I'm back, previously known as kris1970. logged out and in my session options when i logged back in it only had xfce, no other choice.
[21:21] <flocculant> KP: ok
[21:21] <flocculant> logout again, go to vt1 with ctrl+alt+1 then login there
[21:22] <flocculant> then
[21:22] <Unit193> What? How did you install?
[21:22] <flocculant> oh
[21:22] <flocculant> yes indeed
[21:23] <flocculant> note to self - read replies properly ...
[21:23] <KP> downloaded and burnt iso
[21:24] <KP> xubuntu 15.10
[21:24] <flocculant> KP: hang on
[21:24] <flocculant> you could only choose xfce before logging in?
[21:25] <KP> correct, i selected the session icon and the only option was xfce
[21:26] <Unit193> dpkg -S /usr/share/xsessions/xubuntu.desktop
[21:30] <KP> unit193: that just got an error message - dpkg-query: error: --status needs a valid package name but '/usr/share/xsessions/xubuntu.desktop' is not: illegal package name in specifier '/usr/share/xsessions/xubuntu.desktop': must start with an alphanumeric character
[21:32] <Unit193> KP: Was that an uppercase '-S'
[21:35] <KP> unit193: sorry, tried again and got - xubuntu-default-settings: /usr/share/xsessions/xubuntu.desktop
[21:37] <function9x> KP: do you have the link to the xubuntu iso, that you have currently installed
[21:44] <KP> function9x: sorry, pretty sure i just downloaded the iso from the xubuntu website, although when i look now i only see the the torrents available for 15.10 64bit.
[21:54] <KP> going to try login in again and going to vtl.
[21:58] <KP> Guys!! logged out and tried the session icon again but this time there were two options, xfce and xubuntu, selected xubuntu as you all stated and volia.. the sound settings option in the system tray now works. Hopefully that's it fixed.
[22:00] <KP> flocculant: function9x: unit193: and anyone else i missed, thanks for the help!
[22:01] <Unit193> Sure thing.
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[00:01] <daftykins> diddledan_: hrmm i've heard reports the 1511 release of win10 got withdrawn O_O
[00:01] <diddledan_> only the ISO
[00:02] <zmoylan-pi> it wwas resetting privacy settings and uninstalling some software from reports i read online...
[00:02] <daftykins> nah i got told it was the update too
[00:04] * zmoylan-pi is watching the expanse. has promise...
[00:04] <daftykins> British/US series, or a film?
[00:04] <daftykins> <-- no clue
[00:05] <zmoylan-pi> us sci fi series.... 1 episode so far
[00:05] <diddledan_> I haven't received the first ep of the expanse yet
[00:05] <zmoylan-pi> nice attention to detail of a bird flying in zero g
[00:06] <daftykins> is it still flying? :D
[00:07] <diddledan_> that's a good point, does it count as flying when it's in zero-g?
[00:08] <zmoylan-pi> well scientists are now saying that penguins do fly, just that it's under water...
[00:08] <zmoylan-pi> so on that premise i'd say yes as it's using it's wings to move and position itself
[00:13] <daftykins> wow i can't even visit gamestop.co.uk
[00:13] <diddledan_> black friday?
[00:13] <daftykins> Error code 16
[00:13] <daftykins> This request was blocked by the security rules
[00:13] <diddledan_> or islands?
[00:13] <zmoylan-pi> works for me
[00:14] <diddledan_> yeah I'm guessing it's 'cos daftykins is an illegal
[00:14] <daftykins> pretty sure our IP range is blocked from a lot of sites
[00:14] <daftykins> very cheap PS4 with a bunch of games meant to be on there, ho hum :>
[00:14] <daftykins> shouldn't buy anything anyway!
[00:14] * zmoylan-pi waits for the reward on daftykins goes up before reporting...
[00:16] <diddledan_> srsly? dangling an ethernet cable out of an aeroplane flying above a fast driving car?!
[00:16] <zmoylan-pi> that would work with co-ax.... don't ask... :-)
[00:27] <zmoylan-pi> of course the craziest thing that came across my radar on planes recently was this little beauty... watch a hercules c130 take off... quickly... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etzqmtYcpCQ
[00:30] <diddledan_> that's cking awesome!
[00:30] <daftykins> O_O that is amazing
[00:30] <zmoylan-pi> isn't it? watching it throw itself into the sky using pure rockets is something else...
[00:31] <diddledan_> they should make more planes like that!
[00:32] <diddledan_> so what was op credible sport?
[00:32] <zmoylan-pi> who says that they haven't? /paranoia...
[00:32] <zmoylan-pi> they were going to fly into iran and rescue hostages in 70s
[00:32] <zmoylan-pi> all guns AND rockets blazing
[00:32] <diddledan_> this one explains it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKCl3lfAx1Q
[00:33] <daftykins> oh i just saw the end... oops
[00:33] <zmoylan-pi> yeah, it failed the last flight test... badly...
[00:34] <diddledan_> land inside a football stdium!
[00:34] <zmoylan-pi> fell 50ft out of the air when they engaged front braking rockets instead of vertical descent rockets accidently
[00:35] <daftykins> :S that's when you want someone to label the controls better
[00:36] <diddledan_> I love in all the Jerry Anderson model space craft they hover and THEN fire the decent rockets and only THEN start going downwards
[00:37] <daftykins> :D
[00:37] <zmoylan-pi> it was a jury rigged made in 30 days modified plane... they didn't have budget for magic marker... :-)
[00:37] <diddledan_> you've seen what happens with controls labels in independence day
[00:38] <daftykins> haha i was thinking of that very scene as it goes :>
[00:38] <diddledan_> "what say we try that again?" "yesyes. that way!"
[00:38] <daftykins> as bad as folk that use inverted axis on games consoles
[00:38] * daftykins tuts
[00:38] <zmoylan-pi> well in some of the swing wing and vtol experiments in 50s and 60s it kinda looked like that as they switched from using wings for lift to alternate methods
[00:39] <zmoylan-pi> of course then there's the an-2 a plane with no stall speed so it falls out of the sky like it has a parachute... :-)
[00:41] <zmoylan-pi> A note from the pilot's handbook reads: "If the engine quits in instrument conditions or at night, the pilot should pull the control column full aft and keep the wings level. The leading-edge slats will snap out at about 64 km/h (40 mph) and when the airplane slows to a forward speed of about 40 km/h (25 mph), the airplane will sink at about a parachute descent rate until the aircraft hits the ground."
[00:43] <diddledan_> o_O
[00:43] <diddledan_> wow
[00:50] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: do you have any knowledge of whether that C130 mission was a success? :>
[00:51] <ali1234> so they originally used computers to fire the rockets and it worked perfectly
[00:52] <ali1234> then they decided to have the pilots control it, and human error caused the crash
[00:52] <zmoylan-pi> it didn't happen as their plane was very broken
[00:52] <zmoylan-pi> so regan bribed the iranians instead
[00:52] <ali1234> i thought ben affleck rescued the hostages
[00:52] <diddledan_> ben affleck ftw
[00:54] <daftykins> aww they could've just built another!
[00:55] <zmoylan-pi> but that would take another 30 days
[00:55] <daftykins> eeeh, hostages sausages *whistles*
[00:55] <ali1234> nah the events of the ben affleck movie happened before credible sport apparently
[00:55] <diddledan_> so instead of building a plane in 30 days they waited a year till the iranians got fed up?
[00:56] <zmoylan-pi> pretty much
[00:56] <ali1234> less than a year
[00:56] <ali1234> wikipedia suggests the plan was abandoned due to a change in administration
[00:56] <ali1234> they had backup planes
[01:03] <daftykins> http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B012VJ08JA
[01:03] <daftykins> this thing is going cheap :O
[01:04] <zmoylan-pi> i got one of those from argos last year for less
[01:05] <diddledan_> it had better have superfish! I'm not buying it unless I can get targetted advertising
[01:05] <zmoylan-pi> the wifi and bt weren't detected by any of the distros i threw at it. still using linux on it as it's beside ethernet cable anyhow and i couldn't be arsed hunting out drivers
[01:05] <ali1234> that would be a combo wifi and bluetooth card then
[01:05] <zmoylan-pi> i got for around €250
[01:05] <ali1234> probably just needs IDs adding to the right kernel module
[01:06] <ali1234> got a lspci/lsusb/dmesg?
[01:06] <zmoylan-pi> i usually check argos 2-3 weeks before they bring out a new catalog for cheap computers :-)
[01:06] <zmoylan-pi> it's in the kitchen... let me go have a look
[01:07] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: well it's £200 delivered to me, so i've gone for it!
[01:07] <daftykins> i can easily sell that
[01:11] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pb5y567wd9isf6h/lenovo.png?dl=0
[01:11] <daftykins> aww yeah
[01:15] <zmoylan-pi> ok so mine is g50-30 which is probably some sub spec of the chassis. shipped with 4gb... now lets have a look
[01:16] * zmoylan-pi makes note not to do a lscpi on rasp pi and use terminal on actual laptop :-)
[01:17] <zmoylan-pi> lspci... http://pastebin.com/0Dyupw51
[01:19] <daftykins> sounds like an atom?
[01:21] <ali1234> what about lspci -nn
[01:21] <diddledan_> yeah, valleyview appears to be atom
[01:22] <zmoylan-pi> i pastebined without that, am trying to pastebin that now but it's asking me to wait. long time since i used paste bin and not much even then. sorry...
[01:22] <ali1234> use pastebinit, it goes to ubuntu's pastebin
[01:22] <daftykins> or even "lspci -nn | nc termbin.com 9999" :D
[01:23] <daftykins> that haswell i3 on the one i ordered will drive that crazy 2560x1440 LCD i got for someone
[01:23] <zmoylan-pi> which wants me to read a 1000 pages of instructions to use...
[01:24] <ali1234> lspci -nn | pastebinit
[01:26] <zmoylan-pi> http://hastebin.com/evatahoxey.vhdl
[01:26] <zmoylan-pi> all 3 in one post
[01:27] * zmoylan-pi shuts down kitchen and retreats to warm bed...
[01:27] <ali1234> your wifi appears to work
[01:27] <ali1234> and bluetooth
[01:28] <ali1234> they were both detected anyway
[01:29] <ali1234> apparently it all works on the latest kernel / ubuntu 15.04
[01:29] <zmoylan-pi> not in linux mint or ubuntu or 2-3 other distros who's names i'd need to check
[01:29] <ali1234> was supposedly fixed in may
[01:29] <zmoylan-pi> oh i did poke around at one point but could never get them connected
[01:29] <zmoylan-pi> this was after may
[01:30] <diddledan_> yeah the april ubuntu won't have had it
[01:30] <zmoylan-pi> just made a note to avoid lenovo next time :-)
[01:30] <diddledan_> won't have arrived until 15.10
[01:30] <ali1234> thinkpads are great though
[01:31] <zmoylan-pi> a lenovo isn't automatically a thinkpad though
[01:31] <ali1234> i know... next time
[01:31] <diddledan_> yeah, but a thinkpad is automatically a lenovo (new)
[01:31] <ali1234> 2nd hand thinkpads are like £250
[01:31] <zmoylan-pi> and are still tanks
[01:32] * zmoylan-pi puts on st voyager
[01:32] <diddledan_> saint voyager!
[01:32] <daftykins> i know someone who keeps buying ancient ones and doing them up to sell, seems like a waste of effort to me :>
[01:33] <diddledan_> daftykins: you do the same with phones :-p
[01:33] <daftykins> nah i get given those!
[01:33] <diddledan_> lol
[01:33] <zmoylan-pi> they are the equivalent of vintage car market
[01:34] * zmoylan-pi pushes box with 10 phones out of sight... :-)
[01:34] <diddledan_> yah, but those 10 phones are nokias
[01:34] <diddledan_> they don't count
[01:34] <diddledan_> anything from the 20th century aren't worth bothering with imo
[01:35] <zmoylan-pi> only 4-5 nokias. to be dropped into a sock and used to club terminator or dalek into submission :-)
[01:35] <diddledan_> they won't stand a chance! that's unsporting
[01:36] <diddledan_> you've got to let them think they have the possibility of winning at least
[01:36] <zmoylan-pi> that's why they're hidden in a sock
[01:36] <diddledan_> that's almost as bad as climbing a staircase when pursued by a galick
[01:36] <diddledan_> garlick*
[01:36] <daftykins> that reminds me, i've got another dumphone sony ericsson upstairs charging, got given 3 of them to wipe o0
[01:36] <zmoylan-pi> daleks have climbed stairs since 80s
[01:37] <diddledan_> garlic*
[01:37] <diddledan_> htf is that spelt?
[01:37] <daftykins> garlic yep
[01:37] <diddledan_> old stinky breaths
[01:37] <daftykins> hehe, that was one of those cases of saying it so many times to yourself it lost all meaning eh? :D
[01:37] <daftykins> i did that with amazon this morning
[01:37] <diddledan_> that's why they have the tank to shield everyone from the stench
[01:37] <daftykins> "why are we entering a rainforest name to buy things O_O"
[01:39] <diddledan_> rainforest name because what better way of celebrating the written word than hilighting the fact that you helped destroy a giant forest
[01:39] <diddledan_> "I feel like helping to destroy an irreplacable natural resource today. TO AMAZON.COM!"
[01:40] <daftykins> only just ordered it and already reading the BIOS update description *whistle*
[01:40] <diddledan_> lol
[01:40] <diddledan_> nutjob
[01:41] <daftykins> :<
[01:41] <diddledan_> teehee
[01:41] <zmoylan-pi> well it is a lenovo so his paranoia is already +3
[01:41] <daftykins> was that oddjob's brother?
[01:41] <diddledan_> it's a term of enderement
[01:41] <daftykins> ah this new Tomb Raider really does look impressive
[01:42] <diddledan_> but her boobs aren't a giant wedge the width of her chest!
[01:42] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ghcu8ifx8cj1htq/AADOrNs0b6FyRdsX8T7nc02ea?dl=0
[01:42] <daftykins> that's not really a consideration when gaming!
[01:43] <diddledan_> wow that video is epic
[01:43] <daftykins> mmhmm
[01:43] <diddledan_> that almost tempts me to have a go
[01:44] <daftykins> another snap going up after i battle OneDrive
[01:44] <diddledan_> this is the best graphics! http://tombraiders.net/katie/screenshots/tr1/lara209.jpg
[01:45] <diddledan_> wow. that lens flare!
[01:46] <diddledan_> when did games get pretty?
[01:46] <daftykins> :)
[01:55] <daftykins> d'aww i got a traditional chocolate advent calendar from my olds :P
[02:43] <daftykins> here's a blast from the past
[02:43] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pgwf52lgny215ai/IMG_20151126_024032.jpg?dl=0
[02:43] <diddledan> wow
[02:43] <diddledan> walkman branded, too
[02:44] <daftykins> entering an APN into that was amusing
[02:44] <diddledan> lol
[02:44] <daftykins> the thing has wifi! but i don't have the character set to enter my pass...
[02:46] <zmoylan-pi> well sony only stopped making sony walkman tape players 2-3 years ago
[02:55] <zmoylan-pi> and they announced they're going to stop making betamax tapes soon i think
[02:56] <diddledan> yey
[02:56] <diddledan> what about blurries?
[03:00] <daftykins> well the 4K spec for blurries only just got made!
[03:00] <daftykins> in the new year everyone will be touting the newer HDR tech, which for all means is yawn
[03:00] <diddledan> \o/
[03:03] <diddledan> why can't we have turkey day today?!
[03:03] <diddledan> I want to stuff my face till I pass-out!
[03:03] <diddledan> wait. that's nothing new.
[03:04] <zmoylan-pi> buy a turkey and do a dry run for crimbo :-)
[03:05] <diddledan> yeah I was just mentioning it 'cos it's american thanksgiving today
[03:05] <daftykins> and now we have all their shopping hols but not their food ones!
[03:06] <zmoylan-pi> at least the internet is a bit faster as they're all stuck at home on home wifi
[03:06] <diddledan> yeah. sucky!
[03:06] <diddledan> I want food!
[03:11] <zmoylan-pi> nick daftykins advent calendar :-P
[03:12] <daftykins> :D
[03:12] <daftykins> Lindt no less!
[03:37] <diddledan> wb zmoylan-pi
[03:37] <diddledan> 1i*
[03:39] <daftykins> it's not even 5am!
[04:05] <mapps> hi alll;]
[04:08] <daftykins> \o
[04:11] <mapps> still cant login to my router;/ sucks
[04:11] <mapps> stupid thing
[04:16] <daftykins> u wot m8
[04:16] <daftykins> not been told the pass?
[04:18] <mapps> nope;/
[04:18] <mapps> tried default ones doesnt work
[04:23] <diddledan> o_O
[04:23] <diddledan> why don't you have the password?
[04:23] <mapps> no idea
[04:23] <mapps> they didnt tell me it
[04:33] <mapps> =[
[04:36] <mapps> seems a bit odd to not make it widely known
[04:36] <mapps> guess il have to email
[05:02] <daftykins> seems common practice in NY now
[05:02] <daftykins> they disable the web admin to the users
[08:02] <moodoo> morning all
[08:13] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:14] <moodoo> morning
[09:08] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:09] <moodoo> morning
[10:18] <moodoo> :)
[10:23] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Thursday and happy Cake Day! 😃 http://goo.gl/oKyw2t
[10:26] <davmor2> JamesTait: Not happy turkey day?
[10:26] <JamesTait> Piecaken.
[10:26] <JamesTait> All the way.
[10:28] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSq93Hsn0Bg
[10:30] <JamesTait> Groovy, brother.
[10:38] <zmoylan-pi> rasp... pi... zero... https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero/
[10:39] <bashrc_> yes. Probably still needs a blob to boot
[10:39] <zmoylan-pi> so cheap they're putting it on front of a magazine... :-)
[10:39] <bashrc_> but might be ok as an irc/xmpp/email server
[10:40] * zmoylan-pi pats my little irc pi that also does rss and a few other tasks...
[10:45] <foobarry> anyone played the tomb raider GO game on android?
[10:46] <foobarry> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.squareenixmontreal.lcgo&hl=en
[10:46] <foobarry> wanted to know what the controls were like
[10:53] <awilkins> The Pi2 in one of those FLIRC cases is a dead professional little thing
[10:54] <awilkins> The only thing that would improve that Pi Zero is if all the connectors were on one edge
[10:54] <awilkins> Then you could just yank it out like a Terminator CPU
[10:55] <awilkins> Hell, you could put a heatsink on it that made it look like a terminator CPU, with that form factor
[10:59] <foobarry> ridiculuous price for pi zreo
[10:59] <foobarry> think i would have to buy one to run risc os
[16:33] <diddledan> pizero can be jewellery: https://twitter.com/uisgebeatha/status/669915012748738560
[17:00] <diddledan> graham clueless link alert: https://grahamcluley.com/2015/11/plusnet-isnt-acting-safely-password/
[17:05] <popey> he has a point
[17:05] <diddledan> indeed
[17:05] <diddledan> the reply to his request for info is rather unprofessional
[17:05] <diddledan> "we're not gonna talk to you" effectively
[17:06] <diddledan> I think they're doing the head-in-the-sand approach of "if we don't say anything, it's not happening"
[17:08] <popey> That worked out well for TalkTalk
[17:09] <diddledan> awesome. my Dad has fixed a dead monitor I had
[17:09] <diddledan> he's amazeballs
[17:10] <diddledan> turns out the capacitors had died
[17:10] * bashrc_ wonders if he should get a new monitor
[17:11] <diddledan> it's an old LG flattron - wouldn't power on at all. He's got it showing a testcard now
[17:11] <zmoylan-pi> are you staring at the smoking remains of a dead monitor now bashrc_? if not, no :-)
[17:11] <diddledan> 24 inches of pure geek
[17:13] <zmoylan-pi> my boss got very lucky trying to fix an ancient crt monitor around the millenium. he was a trained engineer in first job and thought what the hell he could save a few pennies by fixing a slightly wonky monitor
[17:13] <zmoylan-pi> he let it sit to allow the capacitors to discharge before opening it. but he didn't give it enough time and he melted a screwdriver when he went to remove one
[17:14] <diddledan> eejit
[17:14] <zmoylan-pi> we of course offered great support and laughed our heads off :-)
[17:14] <diddledan> well done :-)
[17:14] <bashrc_> zmoylan-pi: there's an issue with my laptop screen so I'm wondering if I should get a monitor
[17:14] <zmoylan-pi> you have to be cruel at these times :-)
[17:14] <diddledan> it's always the best response when someone burns their eyebrows off
[17:15] <bashrc_> I'm expecting to get a new laptop next year though so I might not bother
[17:15] <zmoylan-pi> you could get a decent laptop for the price of a decent monitor bashrc_
[17:16] <zmoylan-pi> but if it was a good monitor then it could be useful afterwards with a pi doing something else...
[17:16] <diddledan> or a pizero for whatever you find down the back of your sofa
[17:17] <zmoylan-pi> wow... just thinking... if i only spent the money i found inserted into pcs on rasp pi zeros.... i'd have 2-3 rasp pi zeros... :-)
[17:18] <diddledan> shoving £20 notes into the floppy drive to pay for amazon orders?
[17:18] <diddledan> see, kids of today are missing-out on the lack of holes to shove jammy toast into (VCR!)
[17:18] <zmoylan-pi> new staff members of a video shop point of sales system who inserted money into the floppy drive...
[17:19] <zmoylan-pi> but can they not shove a half melted chocolate hobnob into your xbox or playstation?
[17:19] <diddledan> true
[17:19] <diddledan> gotta love choccy knobknobs
[17:20] <zmoylan-pi> it's like indiana jones trying to fish them out before they crumble all over the internal boards...
[17:24] <zmoylan-pi> not the weirdest thing i found lying on a motherboard mind. that would be rivets...
[17:24] <diddledan> o_O
[17:25] <zmoylan-pi> a customer decided to save a penny and have one of their electricians start installing repairing pcs
[17:25] <zmoylan-pi> he didn't know how to open a pc so would cut the side of and rivet them back on
[17:25] <diddledan> o_O
[17:25] <diddledan> that's nuts
[17:26] <zmoylan-pi> no not nuts, rivets :-)
[17:26] <zmoylan-pi> this was not the money saver they hoped for...
[17:27] <zmoylan-pi> and he did a really nice job on the riveting so you only knew it was rivetted when you saw a case he had opened beside a case he hadn't AND when you found rivets lying on motherboards and bottom of cases
[17:27] <zmoylan-pi> which shorted out 2-3 pcs
[21:38] <diddledan> o_O
[21:39] <diddledan> I didn't realise I had d/c
[21:39] <diddledan> I saw a load of netsplit at 19:07 and then nada
[23:09] <diddledan> morning daftykins
[23:09] <daftykins> heya
[23:09] <daftykins> seems i did some dialup impressions in my absence, or just popped off for a bit :)
[23:10] <diddledan> there was a massive netsplit that caught me out earlier
[23:10] <diddledan> at around 19:07 I disappeared without realising
[23:10] <diddledan> I hate when I don't realise that I'm not here
[23:11] <daftykins> :D
[23:11] <daftykins> suddenly nobody wants to talk to us!
[23:11] <diddledan> it strikes that such absentmindedness could mean that I end up in Scottyland or aussietralia or some such without knowing
[23:12] <daftykins> just lucky the trains don't run that far i guess, for the latter :>
[23:12] <diddledan> aye
[23:13] <daftykins> i stayed up this morning and fitted some perspex to my windows!
[23:13] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ghfwo16aeqwayjg/IMG_20151126_100747.jpg?dl=0
[23:13] <diddledan> does microsoft provide an API for that?
[23:14] <daftykins> :>
[23:16] <diddledan> 24 condoms are on amazon's black friday
[23:16] <diddledan> 100% claimed tho
[23:17] <diddledan> I guess a lot of people think they're gonna get lucky
[23:17] <diddledan> I wonder how many of those will be disappointed?
[23:18] <daftykins> i had a great pic from my friend of his 14 month old playing with a strip, biting them apparently
[23:18] <daftykins> said friends line was "obviously keen for siblings"
[23:18] <diddledan> lol
[23:21] <daftykins> that Surface Pro 4 despatched \o/
[23:21] <diddledan> yey
[23:21] <daftykins> seems next week is going to be my week of glorious deliveries
[23:22] <daftykins> get to play with all the things then give them back :D
[23:22] <diddledan> :-D followed by :-(
[23:24] <daftykins> nah it's deal, means i didn't pay but get all the fun!
[23:29] <diddledan> kids can be so mean :-( my lil nephew proudly took a "frozen" lunchbox to school only to be picked-on for having a "girls" lunchbox
[23:29] <daftykins> owned :>
[23:30] <daftykins> at least he didn't get sent home for it i suppose, like that one in the US with the wonderwoman version
[23:30] <diddledan> he's only 5 tho :-(
[23:30] <diddledan> far too young to be concerned over such things imo
[23:30] <daftykins> nothing like a trial by fire; are you spoiling them again this christmas? :D
[23:30] <diddledan> yes. yes I am! :-p
[23:31] <daftykins> ooh what's the plan?
[23:31] <diddledan> haven't thought that far ahead yet :-)
[23:31] <daftykins> 'tis mere weeks!
[23:31] <diddledan> I know :-(
[23:31] <daftykins> which reminds me i have a gift to put together
[23:31] <diddledan> comes along far too quick
[23:32] <daftykins> haha, a friend wanted an accessory UK edition board for the board game 'ticket to ride' which i managed to get for £24 on fleaby
[23:32] <daftykins> *fleabay
[23:32] <Myrtti> uk edition?
[23:32] <diddledan> welldone :-)
[23:32] <Myrtti> such thing exists?
[23:33] <daftykins> sure does!
[23:33] <Myrtti> whoa
[23:33] <daftykins> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ticket-to-Ride-United-Kingdom-And-Pennsylvania-Map-collection-volume-5-UK-/252154863337
[23:33] <daftykins> only one remains!
[23:34] <Myrtti> It might be that I'm getting it fir Christmas, judging from dsamples reaction to my 'did you know' question
[23:35] <daftykins> :D
[23:35] <daftykins> i was introduced to this game in the summer by a Texan pal
[23:36] <Myrtti> It's great
[23:36] <Myrtti> We've got quite few expansions
[23:37] <Myrtti> sadly the most expensive version is in Finland
[23:37] <Myrtti> the anniversary edition of the original
[23:38] <Myrtti> It's among the rest of the wedding paraphernalia we haven't had shipped to uk yet
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[01:34] <botamochi> どもー
[01:35] <botamochi> 誰もいないかな？(´・ω・｀)
[02:00] <Emmanuel_Chanel> こんにちは。長い間常駐していないと、多分、欲しい反応は得られないかと存じます。
[02:02] <Emmanuel_Chanel> botamochi: IRCはチャットですが、基本つけっぱなしにしてデスクや裏で何かやりながらチャンネルに常駐する事も多いので、チャンネルが静かな事も多いです。
[02:08] <botamochi> そうですね
[02:08] <botamochi> ゆっくり待つことにします
[02:11] <botamochi> Hello
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-de
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[11:27] <rubi> Ubuntuusers down ?
[11:28] <koegs> rubi: #ubuntuusers
[11:28] <Ekkehardt> Wartungsarbeiten.
[11:29] <Ekkehardt> https://ubuntuusers.statuspage.io/
[11:30] <rubi> Vielen Dank
[11:54] <stevieh> hey ho, kann mir mal jemand erklären, wie das mit den keymaps bei aktuellen ubuntus ist? Ich hab hier nen Laptop, bei dem die Lautstärketasten in nem Dauerfeuer enden... xev erkennt endlos keypress und keyrelease...
[11:55] <dadrc> das klingt nach komischen treibern
[11:56] <stevieh> genau, aber wie funktioniert das alles so mit den Tastaturen?
[11:56] <dadrc> die generieren keycodes
[11:56] <stevieh> genau, und wer bindet die treiber wo ein?
[11:56] <dadrc> kernelmodule
[11:56] <dadrc> zumindest sowas.
[11:57] <stevieh> ich hab da kernel/drivers/media/rc/keymaps/*.ko.. könnten das die sein?
[11:58] <dadrc> glaube nicht, dass du da was mit keymaps fixen kannst. die sagen afaik nur, welche tasten welche keycodes erzeugen
[11:59] <stevieh> na, deswegen bin ich ja auf der Suche, das zu verstehen....
[12:00] <stevieh> die Vol Tasten erzeugen endlos repeats
[12:00] <stevieh> http://askubuntu.com/questions/412621/function-volume-keys-get-stuck-volume-raises-to-max-min-rapidly
[12:01] <stevieh> nur, so richtig sehe ich nicht, was das tun soll...
[12:14] <stevieh> ok, das ist jetzt wohl alles in /lib/udev/hwdb.d gelandet
[12:40] <NTQ> Hi Leute. Ich hab hier ein Lubuntu 15.10 laufen, auf das ich mich aus dem selben Netzwerk per ssh und key problemlos einloggen kann. Komme ich allerdings von außen über VPN in das Netzwerk, funktioniert zwar ssh, aber nach weniger als einer Minute, geht nichts mehr und es läuft dann in einen Timeout rein. Woran könnte das liegen? Mit allen anderen Linux-Rechner gibt es das Problem über VPN nicht.
[12:41] <ppq> keine ahnung, aber um dein setup näher zu spezifizieren: ist der lubuntu 15.10 rechner gleichzeitig auch der vpn-server?
[12:42] <NTQ> Nein
[12:43] <NTQ> Moment. Ich mach mal ein paste
[12:59] <stevieh> wie sind denn diese hwdb.d einträge zu lesen?
[13:15] <stevieh> ok, andersrum: wie heisst mein keyboard device in /sys/...?
[13:53] <NTQ> ppq: Sorry, hat länger gedauert. Auf den alten Suse und den VPN-Server selbst komme ich ohne Probleme ohne Timeout. Auf dem VPN-Server bricht der ssh-tunnel schnell ab: https://paste.ubuntuusers.de/422193/
[13:53] <stevieh> ok, steht eigentlich alles oben in 60-keyboard.hwdb drin
[13:54] <NTQ> 10.100.1.0/24 ist der Adressbereich, auf die man zugreifen kann, wenn man im VPN ist. 192.168.1.0/24 war schon vor dem VPN-Server da und ist das normale lokale Netz hier.
[13:54] <NTQ> Als VPN-Nutzer hat man eine IP im Bereich 10.100.2.0/24
[13:57] <stevieh> hmm... jetzt hat wohl ein key genau oben im Multimediabereich den gleichen Code wie die Taste p... warum auch immer.
[14:16] <Black> hallo
[14:19] <koegs> NTQ: was sollen wir mit der Netzwerk Config?
[14:20] <koegs> Guck halt in den Logs des VPN Dienstes, auf dem SSH Server oder den SSH Client mal mit Debug Ausgabe laufen lassen
[14:20] <NTQ> koegs: Es ging um mein Setup.
[14:21] <NTQ> Das komische ist auch, wenn ich mich ohne VPN von außen per ssh zum VPN-Server verbinde und dann von dort aus per ssh zum Lubuntu, passiert das selbe spiel.
[14:22] <NTQ> Gehe ich lokal auf den vpn-server, dann von dort auf das Lubuntu klappt alles.
[14:22] <NTQ> aber ich versuche es dann bei Gelegenheit mal mit der Debug-Ausgabe. gute Idee
[14:23] <Black> Dieser Channel wird öffentlich geloggt: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ -- Viel Erfolg beim Lösen Deiner Probleme und danke für Dein Verständnis!
[14:23] <Black> * #ubuntu-de :http://www.ubuntuusers.de
hallo
NTQ: was sollen wir mit der Netzwerk Config?
Guck halt in den Logs des VPN Dienstes, auf dem SSH Server oder den SSH Client mal mit Debug Ausgabe laufen lassen
koegs: Es ging um mein Setup.
[14:23] <Black> * eike_52n ([email protected]) hat #ubuntu-de betreten
Das komische ist auch, wenn ich mich ohne VPN von außen per ssh zum VPN-Server verbinde und dann von dort aus per ssh zum Lubuntu, passiert das selbe spiel.
Gehe ich lokal auf den vpn-server, dann von dort auf das Lubuntu klappt alles.
aber ich versuche es dann bei Gelegenheit mal mit der Debug-Ausgabe. gute Idee
[14:23] <NTQ> Was passiert hier?
[14:23] <koegs> Black: was wird das?
[14:23] <Black> ka
[14:24] <Black> hab was ausprobiert, ging nach hinten los
[14:24] <Black> hab problem mit ner datei
[14:24] <jokrebel> eher nach vorne
[14:24] <Black> ^
[14:24] <Black> ich hab noch ein kleines problem, ev könntest du mir helfen ;)
[14:24] <Black> Fehler: Abhängigkeit nicht erfüllbar:libgee-0-8
[14:25] <Black> 0.8.2(=0.8.3)
[14:25] <Black> ich probier ein paket zu installieren, kommt aber nur diese fehlermeldung
[14:25] <jokrebel> NoPaste die komplette Ausgabe, aber diesmal nicht direkt in den Kanal, bitte
[14:25] <Black> ok
[14:32] <Black> http://pastebin.com/Qd8b4wPk
[14:34] <k1l> Black: was gibt dir "lsb_release -d" für eine nummer aus?
[14:34] <Black> 7.9
[14:34] <k1l> mint?
[14:35] <k1l> oder welches system ist das?
[14:35] <Black> Debian GNU/Linux 7.9 (wheezy)
[14:36] <jokrebel> klingt nicht nach Ubuntu...
[14:36] <k1l> wenn das ein debian ist dann fragst du am besten mal in #debian-de
[14:36] <Black> ok, probiers mal
[14:36] <Black> thx
[14:36] <k1l> weil die abhängigkeiten von debian paketen können wir eh nicht korrieren.
[14:36] <Black> ok
[14:48] <daniel___> Ubuntuusers.de Fehler 503: Service Unavailable
[14:48] <daniel___> ?
[14:50] <koegs> daniel___: hast du auch weiter gelesen?
[14:51] <drnyko> what is going on?
[14:51] <piet> huhu Seite spuckt nen 503 bei mir aus, noch bei wem anners?
[14:52] <drnyko> hab das gleiche problem
[14:54] <jokrebel> Die haben glaub grad Wartungsarbeiten, was ich vor kurzem hörte
[14:59] <stevieh> YES! ich hab die Multimediatasten gefixt!!!
[14:59] <freakyy> stevieh: juhuu ;D
[14:59] <stevieh> und wo schreib ich nun sowas hin?
[15:04] <k1l> stevieh: in deinen blog :)
[15:06] <koegs> Oder ins Forum/wiki
[15:07] <stevieh> koegs: wiki wäre wohl nicht doof, mal schauen wo
[15:08] <k1l> ist nur gerade down :)
[15:08] <stevieh> siehste, die wollen das nicht ;-)
[15:09] <stevieh> jetzt ist maximal noch die Frage, ob man noch Tasten hin bekommen, die noch nicht mal mit evtest nen scancode ausgeben... wo die wohl landen?
[15:09] <koegs> Doch doch, die wollen das, ist halt grad ungünstig, aber im wiki macht am meisten Sinn ^^
[15:15] * flo slaps nils_2 around a bit with a large fishbot
[15:22] <stevieh> wie kann ich in Unity am besten einen Tastencode für suspend machen?
[15:22] <stevieh> suspenden? ;-)
[15:23] <dadrc> skript machen, dass den rechner in suspend schickt und das auf 'ne taste binden?
[15:24] <jokrebel> stevieh: Systemeinstellungen - Tastatur - Tastenkürzel
[15:24] <dadrc> http://askubuntu.com/questions/1792/how-can-i-suspend-hibernate-from-command-line/131022#131022 ← dazu das da
[15:25] <stevieh> ja, das ist leider kapott. wie im entsprechenden Bug report steht
[15:26] <dadrc> Ich hab das mit 14.04 noch benutzt o0
[15:26] <stevieh> aber mei, ist auch wurscht, der bauer knopf ist 1cm drüber
[15:26] <stevieh> ja, damals schon
[15:27] <dadrc> stevieh: was fürn ubuntu hast du denn da?
[15:27] <stevieh> 15.10
[15:27] <dadrc> `systemctl suspend` könnte klappen
[15:27] <stevieh> ah, mal testen
[15:28] <dadrc> süstehmde
[15:28] <stevieh> ui, schick!
[15:29] <dadrc> klappt?
[15:30] <stevieh> 1a
[15:30] <dadrc> sehr gut
[15:33] <stevieh> seit wann gibts das?
[15:33] <dadrc> systemd
[15:33] <koegs> SystemD kann halt alles
[15:33] <stevieh> ok, geht 15.04 auch schon
[15:33] <dadrc> ja, sollte
[15:35] <stevieh> dannn poste das doch mal in askubuntu, ich darf das nicht, hab ne schlechte reputation ;-)
[15:37] <dadrc> Und jetzt schön `systemctl suspend` auf 'e' legen
[15:37] <stevieh> hehe
[15:38] <stevieh> komisch, eigentlich sollte es "sleep" als Taste geben...
[15:44] <Domi> Hallo, ich hoffe ich bin Richtig ^^ :D
[15:44] <Domi> Kann mir mal jemand kurz helfen?
[15:44] <Domi> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) <-- Egal was ich bisher versuchte es blieb Erfolglos
[15:45] <jokrebel> stevieh: Ich hab hier auf Fn.Tastenkombinationen Ruhezustand und Standby (nutz es nur nicht, weil die GZU kaputt ist nach dem aufwecken)
[15:46] <jokrebel> Domi: NoPaste mal die gesamte ein und ausgabe
[15:46] <NTQ> stevieh: Ich hab auf meinem alten Laptop mit Lubuntu das Problem, dass ich die Monitore nicht mehr einfach mit Fn+F7 wechseln kann. Weißt du da auch etwas dazu?
[15:46] <stevieh> jokrebel: ich hab dem jetzt eigentlich beigebogen die taste sleep auszugeben...
[15:48] <Domi> Paketaktualisierung (Upgrade) wird berechnet... Fertig 0 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 0 nicht aktualisiert. 1 nicht vollständig installiert oder entfernt. Nach dieser Operation werden 0 B Plattenplatz zusätzlich benutzt. Möchten Sie fortfahren? [J/n] y nginx-light (1.6.2-5) wird eingerichtet ... Job for nginx.service failed. See 'systemctl status nginx.service' and 'journalctl -xn' for details. invoke-rc.d
[15:48] <Domi> invoke-rc.d: initscript nginx, action "start" failed. dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten des Paketes nginx-light (--configure): Unterprozess installiertes post-installation-Skript gab den Fehlerwert 1 zurück Fehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von: nginx-light E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) root@mail:~#
[15:48] <Arborata> Huhu! Ich wollte mein Raw Therapee aktualisieren, aber es ging irgendwie nich... http://pastebin.com/YyinFY0v
[15:48] <encbladexp> Guten Tag, kleiner Servicehinweis: ubuntuusers.de steht wieder zur Verfügung.
[15:48] <Arborata> Trutsy / XFCE
[15:49] <jokrebel> Domi: Nopasten bedeutet einen Pastservice wie zB, im Topic erwähnt zu benutzten :-/
[15:49] <Domi> sorry
[15:49] <Domi> uno momento
[15:49] <jokrebel> encbladexp: Danke
[15:50] <Domi> http://pastebin.com/L21YDGLm
[15:50] <Domi> Hier
[15:50] <Arborata> er sagt hauptsächlich "Versuch, »/usr/share/rawtherapee/images/curveType-flatLinear.png« zu überschreiben, welches auch in Paket rawtherapee-data 4.0.12+dfsg-2 ist"
[15:51] <jokrebel> Domi: Zeig mal noch ein "sudo apt update&&sudo apt fill-upgrade&&sudo apt-get -f install" bitte
[15:53] <Domi> http://pastebin.com/QKiLEZaz @Joker
[15:53] <jokrebel> Arborata: Zeig mal noch ein "lsb_release -a && uname -a && sudo apt update&&sudo apt fill-upgrade&&sudo apt-get -f install" bitte
[15:54] <jokrebel> Domi: Wieso bist Du root?
[15:54] <jokrebel> und wo sind da Ubuntu-Quellen? Ist das gar kein Ubuntu? Dann frag bitte den Support Deiner Distri
[15:55] <jokrebel> oh und typo . ,,, full.upgrade muss das natürlich heißen.
[15:55] <jokrebel> oh und typo . ,,, full-upgrade muss das natürlich heißen.
[15:56] <Domi> Nein ist debian
[15:56] <Domi> :o
[15:56] <Domi> Bin ich falsch?
[15:56] <NTQ> Domi: Hier ist Ubuntu
[15:56] <Domi> Habt ihr nen Debian Bereich Maybe?
[15:57] <k1l_> Domi: #debian-de ist der debian kanal hier auf freenode
[15:59] <Arborata> jokrebel, OK http://pastebin.com/uPjmvCd0
[16:00] <Arborata> und hat zufällig jemand eine Idee wie ich gthumb dazu kriege, im Browserfenster eine Vorschau alter Canon RAWs anzuzeigen? Im Betrachterfenster kann es das ja...
[16:00] <jokrebel> Arborata: Auch für Dich ;-) Hatte mich vertippt. Muss natürlich full-upgrade heißen.
[16:10] <Arborata> jok OK jetzt aber http://pastebin.com/tmVUDabV
[16:14] <jokrebel> Arborata: Dieses rawtherapee stammt wohl aus einer Deiner vielen Fremdquellen. Ich hab hier die Version 4.0.12 die ich installieren könnte.
[16:15] <Arborata> jokrebel, die hab ich schon drauf, ich wollte die ja gerade aktualisieren
[16:15] <Arborata> jokrebel, wieso macht er das nicht ?
[16:15] <Arborata> jokrebel, kann ich nicht einfach diese dioppelte Datei aus der alten Version manuell löschen?
[16:15] <jokrebel> Arborata: Willkommen in der Fremdquellen-Hölle würd ich vermuten
[16:16] <Arborata> jokrebel, in der Linux-Hölle. Aber da bin ich ja schon ganz lange drin
[16:17] <Arborata> jokrebel, das ist nun mal so wenn man auf einem Linux PC $irgendwas anderes machen will als im Terminal einen begrenzten Befehlssatz einzutippen, wenn das nicht so wär müsste ich nicht im IRC um Hilfe betteln
[16:18] <Arborata> jokrebel, oder hast du nen besseren RAW-Konverter? RawStudio ist wohl komplett eingestellt, dafür finde ich noch nicht einmal ein stumpfes Handbuch.
[16:19] <Arborata> jokrebel, bei RT gibt es immerhin rawpedia
[16:19] <jokrebel> Wie gesagt, im aktuellen 14.04.3 ist die offizielle Version 4.0.12. Du versuchst aber wohl (aus anderen Quellen) rawtherapee_4.2-4dhor~trusty_amd64.deb zu installieren. Und da liegt halt was quer.
[16:20] <Arborata> jokrebel, ich versuche das weil sie sagen, rawpedia bezieht sich auf die Neue Version und es hat sich da was geändert seit 4.0.12, ich brauch das Programm das zur Doku passt, alles andere ist doch wahnsinn
[16:20] <jokrebel> Da wirst Du schon den Maintainer des fremden .deb-Pakets fragen müssen, fürchte ich.
[16:28] <jokrebel> Arborata: ^
[18:29] <Anf> Guten Abend, hab da mal so eine kleine frage. Ich hab in mein Notebook eine zweite HDD eingebaut an stelle von dem DVD Laufwerk, aber die HDD wird bei Ubuntu nicht angezeigt, woran kann das liegen?
[18:31] <Thhunder> Anf; wird die festplatte vom system überhaupt erkannt? (Bios) ansonsten wirst du diese wenn sie nachträglich eingebaut wurd einbinden müssen
[18:32] <Anf> Das Bios erkennt die HDD, aber in Ubuntu sehe ich die HDD nicht
[18:33] <Anf> Bei Geräte steht nur die Partition "Rechner"
[18:33] <Thhunder> was sagt dir denn die ausgabe im terminal: less /dev |grep sd*
[18:33] <k1l_> Anf: "sudo parted -l" in einem pastebin
[18:34] <Thhunder> ansonsten fehlt die partition wäre mein nächster ansatz
[18:34] <k1l_> erstmal gucken ob die disk erkannt wird und ob da überhaupt partitionen drauf sind
[18:34] <Anf> Moment, ich hab gerade das Tool Laufwerke geöfftet, da steht die Platte drin. Heißt das, das ich die HDD mounten muss
[18:35] <Thhunder> würd sagen ja :)
[18:36] <k1l_> Anf: sollen wir raten? so ohne fakten? dann rate ich: ja
[18:36] <Anf> Aber wie, im Dateimanager wird die Platte nicht angezeigt, nur im Tool Laufwerke
Anf: "sudo parted -l" in einem pastebin
[18:37] <Anf> moment
[18:39] <Anf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13517608/
[18:39] <k1l_> ist das alles?
[18:40] <k1l_> ah warte. was ist denn auf der anderen festplatte? oder ist die brandneu?
[18:40] <Anf> Ja, ist ja nur ein Notebook
[18:40] <Anf> Die ist brandneu
[18:41] <Thhunder> also ohne partition ;)
[18:41] <Anf> genau
[18:41] <k1l_> Anf: die ausgabe ist nicht vollständig, deswegen war ich verstutzt
[18:41] <k1l_> Anf: dann partitionier die platte doch erstmal. du kannst nur partitionen einbinden ins system, keine festplatten
[18:42] <Anf> Die Ausgabe ist vollständig es fehlt nur der Befehl
[18:43] <Anf> Wie kann ich Sie den Partitionieren? Ich sehe nur Formatieren und Abbild erzeugen
[18:44] <jokrebel> mit GParted?
[18:44] <k1l_> Anf: welches ubuntu ist das genau?
[18:45] <Anf> Ubuntu 14.04
[18:45] <k1l_> desktop?
[18:48] <Anf> Welchen Tabelentyp sollte man wählen?
[18:49] <Anf> *Tabellentyp
[18:53] <Anf> msdos, mac,loop usw.
[18:53] <Anf> Ich würde sagen msdos, aber ich bin mir unsicher, und frag lieber nochmal nach
[18:54] <ppq> heutzutage ist gpt der standard, msdos ist aber auch ok
[18:57] <Anf> Also NTFS und FAt16, FAt32 kenn ich mich ja aus, aber was ist den das Tabellentyp. Ich kenn da nur gpt und mbr. Aber mac lopp usw. was ist den das
[18:57] <ppq> msdos ist mbr
[18:58] <Anf> ok, wusste ich nicht. Ich weiß nur, das wen man einen Win8 PC kauft, und dan Win7 installieren möchte, muss man von einer der beiden auf den anderen Typ wechseln, damit Win7 installiert werden kann
[19:00] <Anf> Ist dan MBR bei Win7 und bei Win8 dan das aktuelle GPT, oder anders herum?
[19:01] <ppq> keine ahnung, ist mir eigentlich auch egal.
[19:03] <Anf> ok, aber der heutige standart ist dan GPT?
[19:03] <ppq> ja
[19:07] <Anf> ok, und stimmt das, das mbr nur festplatten bis 2tb unterstützt, und das man ab 2tb GPT nehmen muss?
[19:13] <Anf> Sollte man bei Dateisystem das von Linus etx4 nehmen, oder das bekannte NTFS?
[19:14] <jokrebel> NTFS ist Windows-Mist Anf
[19:15] <Anf> Deswegen fag ich :) Ich hab alles auf Ubuntu, dan lohnt sich etx4 besser, oder?
[19:19] <freakyy> Anf: also wenn du nur ubuntu hast, würde ich ext4 nehmen so hat mir das mal jemand empfohlen ...
[19:19] <freakyy> vor vielen jahren
[19:19] <jokrebel> Anf: also wenn Du nicht dringend Dateien mit nem Windowssystem austauschen musst brauchst Du kein NTFS.
[19:19] <Anf> Ich hab gemerkt, das man bei Linux, bei Vorhergehender freier Speicher nie auf 0 stellen kann, wieso muss da min. 1 stehen?
[19:20] <k1l_> Anf: da gehts um das "alignement"
[19:20] <Anf> Das heißt, das es normal ist, das da min. 1 stehen muss, weil der speicher gebraucht wird?
[19:21] <k1l_> das hat was mit ausrichtung der sektoren und sektorengöße zu tun.
[19:24] <Anf> alles klar, nur noch eine letze frage. Kann man die zweite HDD als Primäre Parttition einrichten, oder sollte man Erweiterte nehmen, weil bei Erweiterten Partition kann man das Dateisystem nicht auswählen nur bei der Primären Partition
[19:25] <jokrebel> Anf: Auf jeder HD kann man bis zu 4 primäre Partitonen einrichten.
[19:27] <Anf> ok, ich hab aber nicht vor die HDD in mehrere Partitionen einzuteilen, ich möchte nur eine Große Partition. Ich hab nur gedacht, das das System ja auf der Primären Partition ist, und ich keine weiteren Primären Partition mehr erstellen kann. Wo ist den eigendlich der unterschied zwischen primären und Erweiterte Partition
[19:32] <Anf> Wieso kann man den bei einer Erweiterten Partition das Dateisystem nicht wählen, wo ist da der unterschied zur Primären Partition
[19:32] <jokrebel> Anf: Man kann nur 4 primäre erstellen. Wenn man mehr braucht, muss man eine "logische" erstellen um darin dann weiter unter zu bringen. Das hat jetzt aber erstmal nichts mit Ubuntu zu tun.
[19:32] <jokrebel> Anf: Doch - kann man sehr wohl
[19:35] <Anf> Super, alles klar. Ich Danke Euch allen. Hab nur wenig mit Dateisystemen und dan noch bei Linux zu tun, unter Windows früher hab ich das ja garnicht mitbekommen, das macht ja Win zum teil automatisch, und das muss nicht immer von vorteil sein, wie ich jetzt gemerkt habe
[19:58] <Arborata> jetzt wirds ärgerlich
[19:58] <Arborata> jokrebel, meine Virtualbox will nimmer
[19:59] <Arborata> jokrebel, 'The virtualbox kernel modules do not match this version of VirtualBox. The installation of Virtualbox was apparently not successful'
[20:00] <Arborata> jokrebel, könnte das irgendwas mit den apt's von vorhin zu tun haben? Heut morgen ging's noch
[20:01] <jokrebel> Arborata: Naja - hin und wieder muss auch Virtualbox an die aktuelleste Installation "angepasst" werden.
[20:02] <Arborata> jokrebel, aber was hab ich denn jetzt unversehens aktualisiert, dass es nicht mehr geht?
[20:03] <jokrebel> Auch Virtualbox auf den aktuellen Stand bringen?
[20:03] <ppq> sudo dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox-5.0
[20:03] <ppq> dabei wird das kernelmodul neu gebaut
[20:10] <Anf> Ich hab da noch so ein kleines Problem, seit dem ich die zweite HDD eingebaut habe, kommt beim Booten immer der Fehler "Esw wurde ein Problem mit einer Systemanwendung gefunden" Bericht Senden oder Abbrechne. Wie kann ich herausfinden, wieso die Fehlermeldung kommt?
[20:10] <ppq> schau in /var/crash/*
[20:11] <ppq> solange dort etwas drin ist, kommt die meldung beim start
[20:11] <ppq> wenn sich die ursache also erledigt hat, einfach den inhalt löschen und es sollte nix mehr kommen
[20:12] <Arborata> ppq "Paket »virtualbox-5.0« ist nicht installiert und es ist keine Information verfügbar"
[20:12] <Anf> ok, alles klar. Kann man die Datei problemlos mit Gedit öffnen, oder lieber gleich mit nano?
[20:13] <ppq> Arborata, dann entweder den paketnamen durch den der version ersetzen, die du nutzt, oder einfach mal auf 5.0 upgraden: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[20:14] <Arborata> ppq werden die installierten VMs nach dem Upgrade noch/wieder gehen?
[20:14] <ppq> die vboxen bleiben vom upgrade erstmal unangetastet, bis du sie startest
[20:15] <ppq> kannst also in aller ruhe ein backup erstellen, falls du das wünschst
[20:15] <Arborata> ppq, weil ich hab die eine VM mal geklont und als ich neulich versuchte, den Klon wieder einzubinden, wollte er irgendwie auch ned so richtig
[20:16] <Arborata> ppq, da muss man irgendwo was in einer Ini-Datei pfuschen oder so damits geht
[20:16] <ppq> ich sichere immer das ganze ~/VirtualBox VMs/ verzeichnis
[20:16] <ppq> dann kann nix mehr schiefgehen
[20:16] <ppq> inkl. hdd-abbilder
[20:17] <Anf> ppq, meinst du den Inhalt in der Datei löschen, oder den Inhalt im Ordner /Crash löschen?
[20:18] <ppq> Anf, letzteres, im idealfall nachdem du reingeschaut und die problemursache eliminiert hast
[20:19] <Anf> reinschauen geht nicht, ist eine .crah Datei, lässt sich mit gedit nicht öffnen, und normales löschen geht auch nicht
[20:20] <ppq> http://askubuntu.com/questions/434431/how-can-i-read-a-crash-file-from-var-crash
[20:20] <ppq> einfach mal googeln
[20:21] <Arborata> ppq, wo krieg ich denn den korrekten Namen des installierten Pakets her?
[20:22] <ppq> Arborata, sudo dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox[TAB][TAB]
[20:22] <Anf> ok, krieg ich mit dem Link jetzt hin. Ich hab aber noch das Problem, das meine zweite HDD nicht mountet, obwohl ich es eingestellt habe, beim Booten mounten, im Tool Laufwerke.
[20:22] <ppq> hint: [TAB] heißt auf die tab-taste drücken ;)
[20:22] <Arborata> ppq, ah es reicht einfach 'virtualbox'
[20:22] <ppq> ah ok
[20:23] <Arborata> ppq es scheint wieder zu gehen
[20:23] <Arborata> oah ich war noch nie so froh eine Windows Startmelodie zu hörn ;-)
[20:25] <Anf> Man kann nur auswählen, das die hdd beim starten mounten soll, kann man es aber so einstellen, das die hdd bei booten gleich alleine mountet
[20:45] <Anf> ppq, ich hab das mit dem Fehler behoben, hab die Datei mit sudo rm /var/crash/* gelöscht, aber der Fehler mit den mounten bleibt trotzdem noch. Jetzt kommt beim Booten immer eine Fehler meldung, "Fehler bei Mounten von /.. Drücken sie S zum Überspringen und ...." Was ich ich da jetzt falsch gemacht
[20:48] <Anf> ich glaub ich hab was falsches bei identifizierung als und bei Einhängepunkt was falsches eingestellt
[20:58] <Anf> Folgende Fehlermeldung kommt beim Booten "Beim Einhängen von /Daten ist ein Fehler aufgetreten. Drücken Sie S, um das Einhängen zu überspringen, oder M zur manuellen Wiederherstellung" Wieso kommt die Meldung?
[20:59] <k1l_> gibts den mountpoint?
[21:00] <Anf> ja, /mnt/Daten
[21:00] <k1l_> gibts den ordner?
[21:00] <k1l_> was sagt dmesg?
[21:00] <M0KKuJ|N> Hi macht ihr einen /mnt Quiz *g*
[21:01] <Anf> Den hab ich aber geändert, da stand eine sehr lange Zahlen kombi
[21:02] <k1l_> Anf: alles zeigen
[21:02] <k1l_> sonst müssen wir raten
[21:02] <Anf> moment
[21:03] <Anf> bei dmesg wird nicht alles gezeigt
[21:03] <Anf> also nur der Untere teil, der Obere teil wird nicht anzǵezeigt, ist zu lang
[21:04] <Anf> Error mounting system-managed device /dev/sda1: Command-line `mount "/mnt/Daten"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so
[21:05] <k1l_> Anf: du kennst doch wie das hier läuft
[21:05] <Anf> sorry
[21:05] <k1l_> packs in einen pastebin.
[21:07] <Anf> Wieso kann ich den Einhängepunkt nicht auf /Daten ändern, früher stand da eine komische lange kombination, wie eine Serien nummer der HDD
[21:07] <M0KKuJ|N> Das ist die UID
[21:08] <k1l_> Anf: zeigen
[21:08] <Anf> Darf man die nicht unbenennen?
[21:08] <M0KKuJ|N> Anf: Was hast du denn gemacht ?
[21:08] <Anf> es ist im Tool Laufwerke, wie soll ich es zeigen
[21:09] <k1l_> Anf: letzter versuch: "cat /etc/fstab" und "sudo blkid" und "sudo parted -l"
[21:09] <Anf> Ich hab bei einhängepunkt /mnt/.......... in /mnt/Daten unbenannt und eingestellt, das die hdd beim booten automounten soll
[21:10] <M0KKuJ|N> über was mountest du die HDD denn ? Name oder UUID ?
[21:10] <M0KKuJ|N> https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/fstab
[21:11] <Anf> bei identifizieren als: steht UUID=........
[21:11] <M0KKuJ|N> Hast du dir den Artikel mach durchgelesen da findest du eigentlich alle was du brauchst
[21:12] <M0KKuJ|N> mach = mal
[21:12] <Anf> noch nichtt
[21:12] <Anf> ich hab die hdd gerade ja neu eungerichten die hdd ist brandneu, deswegen fand ich es komisch
[21:13] <M0KKuJ|N> war der Name wirklich .........
[21:13] <M0KKuJ|N> oder stand da ein Typ Name
[21:14] <Anf> eine kombination aus Zahlen, wie eine Seriennummer
[21:15] <M0KKuJ|N> und was steht genau in deiner fstab
[21:15] <Anf> moment
[21:16] <M0KKuJ|N> Anf : <k1l_> hat das aber schon oben geschrieben ;)
[21:16] <Anf> bin gerade schon dabei
[21:16] <k1l_> jo ich bin raus. wer nicht will, der soll weiter mit raten im dunkeln rumfummeln :)
[21:16] <M0KKuJ|N> gg
[21:17] <Anf> ich bin dabei die Befehle von k1l einzugeben
[21:18] <M0KKuJ|N> Den Output brauchen wir dann aber auch um dir zu helfen hier kannst du das posten http://dpaste.com/
[21:18] <M0KKuJ|N> LoL ich lach mich weg gerade auf einem anderen Server gelesen
[21:18] <M0KKuJ|N> "Ich bin ein Hacker immerhin nutze ich Gnome" LOL
[21:19] <M0KKuJ|N> Man Man
[21:19] <M0KKuJ|N> Der versucht bestimmt auch die 127.0.0.1 zu hacken
[21:20] <Anf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13519264/
[21:22] <Anf> Was soll ich bei Einhängepunkt und bei Identifizieren als eingeben. Da hab ich was falsch eingegeben
[21:23] <M0KKuJ|N> nun du hast den Ordner /mnt/Daten
[21:23] <M0KKuJ|N> oder ?
[21:23] <bekks> Und dann noch dmesg nopasten.
[21:24] <bekks> Nach dem Versuch, das manuell zu mounten.
[21:24] <Anf> Ich hab den Ordner Daten im Dateimanager, das stimmt
[21:25] <bekks> ls -lha /mnt/Daten
[21:25] <bekks> Du weisst doch dass diese ganze GRafikgeraffel völliger Mumpitz ist im Support.
[21:26] <M0KKuJ|N> gg
[21:26] <M0KKuJ|N> bekks auch Terminal Liebhaber ?
[21:27] <M0KKuJ|N> Anf dein Eintrag könnte so in der Art aussehen
[21:27] <M0KKuJ|N> UUID=2fbd073f-e1b7-4011-87c1-df1c6b00fc21 /media/second ntfs rw,auto,users,exec,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 0
[21:27] <M0KKuJ|N> UUID=<UUID deiner HDD> /mnt/Daten ntfs rw,auto,users,exec,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 0
[21:27] <M0KKuJ|N> das schreibst du dann in deine fstab rein
[21:27] <Anf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13519333/
[21:27] <M0KKuJ|N> und feuerst dannach ein mount -a ab
[21:28] <M0KKuJ|N> bekks ist wirklich nur der Ordner
[21:29] <Anf> wieso ntfs ich hab die hdd als ext4
[21:29] <M0KKuJ|N> sorry war dann natürlich ext4
[21:29] <Anf> Kann ich es nicht Grafisch im Tool laufwerke einstellen, bei Einhängepungt
[21:30] <M0KKuJ|N> Ich hab das noch nie Grafisch gemacht keine Ahnung
[21:30] <Anf> alles klar, vielen Dank. Werde ich dan mal versuchen
[21:30] <M0KKuJ|N> gksudo nano /etc/fstab
[21:30] <M0KKuJ|N> dann öffnest du den Editor
[21:31] <M0KKuJ|N> speicherst
[21:31] <M0KKuJ|N> und gibst dannach in den Terminal mount -a ein
[21:45] <Anf> Konnte den Fehler bisschen einschränken, also es liegt an der funktion, das die hdd sich beim booten mounten soll. wen ich die funktion abstelle, läuft die hdd wunderbar. wen ich aber die funktion aktiviere, hab ich den fehler, egal welchen Einhängepunkt usw ich einbebe
[21:46] <bekks> So, du hast immer noch keine Pastebins geliefert.
[21:46] <M0KKuJ|N> Dann ist dein Eintrag in der fstab falsch
[21:46] <bekks> Ich habe keine Lust mehr auf deine Verweigerung jeder Mitarbeit. Endgültig.
[21:47] <Anf> Ich hab die alle doch gepastet
[21:48] <bekks> Nein, hast du nicht. Du hast mehrfach den Hinweis auf dmesg einfach mal ignoriert. Und ich habe keine Lust mehr Nanny zu spielen und dir alles fünfmal zu sagen.
[21:50] <Anf> Ich hab alle Befehl von k1l gepastet, und da war auch der dmesg Befehl dabei
[21:50] <bekks> 1126 222344 < bekks> Und dann noch dmesg nopasten.
[21:50] <bekks> 1126 222400 < bekks> Nach dem Versuch, das manuell zu mounten.
[21:50] <bekks> Das hast du nicht getan.
[21:51] <M0KKuJ|N> bekks ruhig bleiben ;)
[21:51] <bekks> M0KKuJ|N: Läuft :)
[21:51] <bekks> M0KKuJ|N: Wir kennen Ihn seit Wochen nicht anders hier.
[21:51] <bekks> Und jetzt reicht es mir halt endgültig.
[21:52] <M0KKuJ|N> Oh das geht seit Wochen so , dann kann ich dich verstehen
[21:52] <M0KKuJ|N> Anf : liest du dir die wiki Artikel zu den Themen durch oder gehst du gleich hier in den IRC ?
[21:54] <M0KKuJ|N> Linux ist nunmal kein Windows man kann hier nicht alles mir der Maus machen bzw. meistens will man das auch gar nicht
[21:55] <M0KKuJ|N> Ein bisschen einlesen ist in Linux normal etwas man pages lesen auch und dann bekommt man das auch hin
[21:56] <k1l_> man kann schon alles mit der maus machen. aber das ist halt schwer zu supporten. im terminal gibts halt output, den man gut herzeigen könnte.
[21:56] <M0KKuJ|N> deswegen ja "bzw. meistens will man das auch gar nicht"
[21:57] <M0KKuJ|N> aber ich müsste jetzt erstmal nachlesen wie ich das nur mit der Maus mache bzw. ohne Terminal das eine HDD immer gemountet wird , ich mach das seit 6 Jahren immer in der fstab und naja läuft
[21:58] <M0KKuJ|N> ;o)
[22:03] <freakyy> hey k1l_ bist du mir noch sauer? ;D inzwischen läuft der treiber übrigends aber nur wenn ich nen 2ten bildschirm anschließe ... sollte eigentlich auch so ghen aber da kann mir bestimmt auch niemand weiter helfen
[22:03] <freakyy> ich ahb deshalb den bug report geupdated vielleicht kann mir wer von amd helfen
[22:03] <freakyy> wenn sich das mal wer anguggd
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2015-11-26-#cloud-init
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[03:49] <ftsf_> hi, is it possible to make an instance shutdown/terminate itself if any cloudinit steps fail?
[17:02] <themadcanudist> hey guys. I was wondering. Is it possible to have a cloudstack datasource configured w/ appropriate cloud_*_modules and have it only work when it detects itself on a cloudstack environment? Currently, it takes like 2 minutes for cloud-init to timeout if the template is booted elsewhere
[17:02] <themadcanudist> what are some best-practices for dealing with this. My CI builds images for all sorts of things and I configure cloud-init quite early in the process for a whole range of optiosn.
[17:03] <themadcanudist> Even shortening the timeout from 2 minutes to something more reasonable woudl help
[18:21] <themadcanudist> anyone around?
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-nz
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[18:51] <ibeardslee> morning
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.287323
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-meeting
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[16:00] <pitti> hello o/
[16:00] <pitti> *tock* *tock* is this thing on?
[16:01] <davmor2> pitti: it is
[16:01] <davmor2> pitti: also thanksgiving so I don't know who you are expecting ;)
[16:01] <sil2100> o/
[16:01] <pitti> the non-US foundations folks :)
[16:02] * infinity yawns.
[16:03] <cyphermox> o/
[16:03] <cyphermox> pitti: you da chair?
[16:04] <pitti> yes, but not too many other chairs are taken yet :)
[16:04] <cyphermox> heh
[16:05] <pitti> ♯startmeeting
[16:05] <pitti> err, how did I do that
[16:05] <sil2100> Wrong hash sign!
[16:05] <pitti> #startmeeting
[16:05] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Nov 26 16:05:37 2015 UTC. The chair is pitti. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:05] <pitti> #topic veeeeery small lightning round
[16:05] * pitti throws slangasek's magic dice
[16:06] * sil2100 starts wondering how keys on pitti's keyboard look like
[16:06] <pitti> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx xnox)
[16:06] <pitti> tdaitx sil2100 robru xnox infinity barry caribou cyphermox bdmurray doko pitti slangasek
[16:06] <infinity> tdaitx isn't here either.
[16:06] <pitti> sil2100: must have hit the compose key or something :)
[16:06] <sil2100> hmm, no Tiago today too?
[16:06] <xnox> he is american too, i presume, no?
[16:06] <xnox> thanksgiving and all that
[16:06] <pitti> Brazil
[16:06] <infinity> Brasilian.
[16:06] <xnox> oh
[16:06] <infinity> But he's taking a long weekend.
[16:06] <xnox> i had no idea =) that time zone then =)
[16:06] <sil2100> Anyway, yeah, I'll go first then
[16:07] <pitti> sil2100: so go ahead
[16:07] <sil2100> - Landing team work, silo coordination, preparing landing e-mails
[16:07] <sil2100> - RTM Status meetings
[16:07] <sil2100> - Review and help in resolving the platform-api, dbus-cpp and mediascanner2 situation
[16:07] <sil2100> - Add new frameworks, remove invalid ones
[16:07] <sil2100> - +1-maintenance:
[16:07] <sil2100> * Preparing a network-manager-pptp sync
[16:07] <sil2100> * Working on the network-manager-applet merge
[16:07] <sil2100> * Looking into NBS of camlp4-extra - request removal
[16:07] <sil2100> - Clean-up and release of old livecd-rootfs changes
[16:07] <sil2100> - system-image:
[16:07] <sil2100> * Planning changes of introducing a configurable phased percentage value per-channel
[16:07] <sil2100> - Succeeded on becoming a core-dev \o/
[16:07] <sil2100> (done)
[16:07] <cyphermox> ^ sil2100: nm-applet merge, you didn't know what you were getting into ;)
[16:07] * pitti gives sil2100 a cookie for doing +1 work
[16:07] <pitti> sil2100: congrats to the new badge!
[16:08] * cyphermox congratulates sil2100 again for core-dev
[16:08] <pitti> I suppose robru isn't here -- xnox?
[16:08] <xnox> old merges: merged LSB
[16:08] <xnox> resolving uninstalble, and non-migrating packages (liblas, qpdf)
[16:08] <xnox> bootstrap is coming along nicely over 12 hundred builds are complete based on mixed wily & xenial, multiple bug fixes for that. Will need migration to xenial proper soon.
[16:08] <xnox> working on d-i: requested sync for missing packages, and worked with apw on a non-ftbfs kernel, with the right module / udebs split (complete, and will be part of next kernel upload)
[16:08] <xnox> next week will work with Odd_Bloke on live-build, ubuntu-cdimage, et.al. to see what changes will be needed to support new images
[16:08] <xnox> ..
[16:08] <infinity> - s390x, s390x, s390x
[16:08] <infinity> - Some SRU and kernel things
[16:08] <infinity> - Some AA things
[16:08] <infinity> (done)
[16:09] <pitti> xnox: you mean already buliding s390 images?
[16:09] <sil2100> Thanks :)
[16:09] <cyphermox> - patch pilot work
[16:09] <cyphermox> - uploaded software-properties, grub2-signed
[16:09] <cyphermox> - debugged new debconf questions to ask in kdump-tools with caribou.
[16:09] <infinity> pitti: Yeah, or prep for that at least.
[16:09] <cyphermox> - network-manager fix for bug LP: #1499827
[16:09] <cyphermox> - more netcfg:
[16:09] <cyphermox> - merge with 1.135
[16:09] <cyphermox> - keep testing/fixing up bug LP: #1452202
[16:09] <cyphermox> - coached dannf with git-dpm for grub2 patches to land in Debian and Ubuntu
[16:09] <cyphermox> - feedback meeting with design on ubiquity work
[16:09] <cyphermox> - implemented reworked ubi-prepare plugin for Secure Boot
[16:09] <xnox> pitti, only prep at the moment. launchpad is not lit up yet.
[16:09] <cyphermox> - it needs review: https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/ubiquity/disable-verification/+merge/278668
[16:10] <cyphermox> - started tasksel merge.
[16:10] <sil2100> cyphermox: yeah, the merge was supposed to be a 'quick thing' to enable -pptp syncing ;) I didn't know what I was picking up... ;p
[16:10] <pitti> I was talking to caribou 10 mins ago, pinged him
[16:10] <sil2100> cyphermox: but as said, it's almost good now
[16:10] <caribou> o/
[16:10] <pitti> caribou: want to go now, or last (for prep)?
[16:10] <caribou> last pls
[16:11] <pitti> doko: ?
[16:11] <pitti> autopkgtest:
[16:12] <pitti> - Integrate http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running.html prototype into debci, expose autopkgtest AMQP queue lengths and contents
[16:12] <pitti> - Add support for multiple PPAs in a test; required for silo testing against overlay PPA
[16:12] <pitti> - Automate cleanup of abandonded and broken cloud instances
[16:12] <pitti> - Fix broken nova instance names with tests that do reverts
[16:12] <pitti> - Fix container build commands to include libpam-systemd, as some tests need $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR
[16:12] <pitti> - Fix uninstallability failures with dist-upgrading testbed and then apt-pinning
[16:12] <pitti> - Rework charm configs and multiple cloud config handling for fully automatic deployment and keeping all configs in git
[16:12] <pitti> - Discuss autopkgtests in lxd with stgraber, file #1519677 for notes
[16:12] <pitti> systemd:
[16:12] <pitti> - Add networkd router and device setup functionality tests
[16:12] <pitti> - Fix race conditions in boot-and-services and resolvconf integration tests
[16:12] <pitti> misc:
[16:12] <pitti> - merges: avahi, debhelper, nis, puppet, resolvconf, ruby-defaults
[16:12] <pitti> - grep archive for deprecated dh_installinit --upstart-only option, and clean those up (#1519228)
[16:12] <pitti> - set up xenial langpack building, build first ones
[16:12] <pitti> DONE
[16:12] <pitti> slangasek is out too
[16:13] <pitti> caribou: we are done otherwise, so just post when you're ready
[16:13] <caribou> ok, I'm ready
[16:13] <caribou> Bugfix:
[16:13] <caribou> - Old Maas 1.5 debugging
[16:13] <caribou> - packaged & uploaded new sosreport to fix debian FTBS
[16:13] <caribou> - packaged & uploaded makedumpfile 1.5.9 with:
[16:13] <caribou> New logic for smaller initrd.img
[16:13] <caribou> Enabled by default
[16:13] <caribou> Fixes LP: #1496317
[16:13] <caribou> (done)
[16:14] <doko> ouch
[16:14] <doko> - still fixing ISL fall-out, ongoing GCC builds
[16:14] <doko> - look at Linaro GCC build failures
[16:14] <doko> (done)
[16:14] <pitti> that's everyone, thanks
[16:14] <pitti> #topic AOB
[16:14] <pitti> questions about status, etc?
[16:14] <doko> ahh, and still having python2.7 test suite issues
[16:15] * cyphermox is cooking stuff right now in preparation for tonight making spring rolls
[16:15] <pitti> doko: seems all green in xenial?
[16:15] <cyphermox> "right now" because I can just put stuff in boiling water and forget.
[16:15] <xnox> doko, hm... will i need to do isl transition in bootstrap archive then?!
[16:15] <xnox> cyphermox, lovely
[16:15] <pitti> and always fail on armhf/ppc in wily
[16:16] <cyphermox> sil2100: do you wanna take the n-m merge next ? ;)
[16:18] <sil2100> cyphermox: hmmmm, not sure if I should answer that!
[16:18] <xnox> caribou, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2015-April/000196.html
[16:18] <sil2100> Well, if this merge goes ok and doesn't break the world, I *might* consider that
[16:19] <pitti> ok, seems we are done with the official meeting part, thanks everyone
[16:19] <pitti> #endmeeting
[16:19] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Nov 26 16:19:17 2015 UTC.
[16:19] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-11-26-16.05.moin.txt
[16:19] <doko> xnox, xenial based? yes, then I think so
[16:20] <xnox> doko, what's the actual change / transition tracker / soname change of isl?
[16:20] * xnox goes to look
[16:21] <doko> xnox, libisl13 -> libisl15
[16:21] <xnox> doko, oh, it's in proposed at the moment still =) i don't care then, unless you complete that transition before launchpad is lit up =)
[16:22] <xnox> if you do complete it before we lit it up, well i shall be screwed =)
[16:22] <cyphermox> xnox: can you spend a few minutes to review my ubiquity branch?
[16:22] <cyphermox> xnox: you're pretty much the one person with relatively recent state on ubiquity
[16:23] <xnox> haha, ok.
[16:23] <cyphermox> ;)
[16:23] <xnox> it's only been 16 months
[16:23] <cyphermox> yeah
[16:23] <cyphermox> it's only already a messy codebase
[16:24] <sil2100> o/
[16:28] <doko> xnox, the linux autopkg test is still in progress, but then it should be good
[16:28] <xnox> doko, >_< ok
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-gnome
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[02:03] <kozukumi> hello
[10:25] <darkxst> ricotz, we have announced on social media and email lists, that xenial/staging will start breaking soon, so go ahead and upload gtk next week or so
[10:27] <ricotz> darkxst, hmm, let's see -- here are some rogue updates https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ubuntu/testing/+packages
[10:29] <ricotz> but yeah gtk+ breaks a lot (custom widgets), like libreoffice/firefox in its earlier gtk3 tries
[10:31] <darkxst> ubuntu doesnt have gtk3 builds of either does it?
[14:06] <ricotz> darkxst, libreoffice builds the gtk3 flavour and you can install it if you want
[14:06] <ricotz> firefox has it if you use aurora/nightly, it was disabled in the beta branch again
[14:50] <system0x001> wich is the best solution for run script on slected folder (nor PWD ) ?
[16:07] <eliasps> Hello everyone. On Xenial (UG) + staging, has anyone noticed that some gnome applications have an extended window border? Like nautilus, archive manager, even the right click menu?
[16:09] <eliasps> In addition, in nautilus, trash and ftp, sftp gives an error: operation not supported.
[16:11] <eliasps> Installing gvfs-backends fixes the second one.
[16:12] <eliasps> This is what I mean by the first one: http://people.ubuntu.com/~eliasps/files/desktop.png
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-server
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[04:44] <HewloThere> Hi. I'm having trouble setting up a directory so that the directory can be edited by the 2 users. One controls the application (AMP/McMyAdmin) and I need a second user to be jailed within a directory inside it, but also have read/write.
[07:39] <Node_000> hi
[07:39] <sivir> hello
[07:39] <Node_000> how to join this group
[07:40] <Node_000> why name appears as node_000
[07:42] <TheKing> join
[09:25] <zingz0r> hi!
[09:26] <zingz0r> is it normal if on power loss md0 raidis not remounting?
[09:27] <zingz0r> in fstab:/dev/md0 /home ext2 defaults 0 0
[10:53] <Gnjurac> hi i installed ubuntu minimal with lxde but i have 1 problem system trey bare isent working isent showing any app in it
[10:53] <Gnjurac> probbably need some dependecis or somthing
[10:54] <Gnjurac> any suggestion
[11:01] <Gnjurac> got it
[11:26] <ikonia> Gnjurac: why don't you just install lubuntu
[11:26] <ikonia> that is ubuntu with a fully working and configured lxde enviornment
[11:35] <Gnjurac> got it to work anywey
[11:35] <Gnjurac> lubuntu comes with bloatwere for sure
[11:45] * ogra_` wonders why Gnjurac expects to get a proper answer for a desktop prob in #ubuntu-server ... i'd ask in #lxde or some such
[11:47] <Gnjurac> i allraedy figure it out
[13:06] <Westerdutch> o7
[13:07] <Westerdutch> So im trying to configure my little ubuntu server for external access but failing horribly... any pointers where i should start looking at?
[13:08] <Westerdutch> my router is se up correctly (openwrt server works like a charm)
[13:08] <Westerdutch> ssh over lan works perfect as well
[13:08] <Westerdutch> but no matter what i do i cannot access my ubuntu box externally (firewall off)
[13:31] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[15:05] <padan> does anyone know of a way to get either nfs or cifs mounts in an lxc container? (using lxd in ubuntu 15.10) i can't seem to get apparmor to not block it
[15:08] <RoyK> padan: doubt it, since both are kernel-based - perhaps something with FUSE
[15:09] <padan> it looks like you can get apparmor to allow it, but i can't seem to find the right syntax to implement per-container apparmor profiles - i should just be able to add "allow mount fstype=nfs," to the apparmor profile
[15:09] <padan> lxc config set containername raw.apparmor "allow mount fstype=nfs" ... causes teh container to not start with no useful error messsages
[15:10] <puffi> any ideas why apt-get install or cache wouldn't look in a repo that shows in apt-cache policy and seems to update in apt-get update?
[15:10] <puffi> just can't seem to find any software in it
[15:11] <padan> ahh - just needed to add teh stupid comma at the end :) still not mounting, but at least apparmor isn't blocking it
[15:26] <padan> well crap now i'm just getting mount error(1): operation not permitted
[15:26] <padan> for both cifs and nfs
[15:26] <padan> inside the container
[15:37] <padan> fuse won't even install - can't mknod the device...
[22:42] <tarvid> running apcupsd but reboot stops on grub screen, is that the result of apcupsd shutdown?
[22:53] <bekks> tarvid: So what happens on the grub screen? The machine boots, finishes the POST, enters grub - and then?
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-ro
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[18:16] <Rosary> hei :-)
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-ci-eng
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[06:56] <bzoltan> Mirv: would it be possible to push these MRs to the trunk? https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/705
[07:00] <Mirv> bzoltan: in general we want to see it doesn't get stuck in proposed migration. train will do the merge in around 1h if there's no trouble.
[07:00] <Mirv> bzoltan: I mean, the forced merging needs to be an exception for some specific purpose, not a general rule.
[07:00] <bzoltan> Mirv: all right .. so it is not weeks
[07:01] <Mirv> bzoltan: nope, depends how many autopkgtests which I belive q-p-u has none, and if any of those have problems
[07:01] <bzoltan> Mirv: of course, no problem then, false request :) I can totaly wait an hour... the IDE build will start after that and will take 10 hours anyway
[07:01] <Mirv> bzoltan: ok, let's see. it's published in proposed 10 mins ago so we should know more within 30 mins
[07:11] <bzoltan> Mirv: in the meantime I join the autopilot QtC plugin to the train... ^
[07:14] <Mirv> bzoltan: ok!
[07:26] <bzoltan> Mirv: höhh... the qtcreator-plugin-autopilot does not exist in the archive ... so the CI train build failes ^ as it can not find the orig.tar.gz
[10:01] <Mirv_> davmor2: could you have time at some point to do a bit of side-by-side comparison with your devices on silo 12 (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/QtTesting) with/without PPA? All known regressions are now pretty much fixed and I'm warming up to landing Qt 5.5 to xenial.
[10:02] <davmor2> Mirv: no :P
[10:03] <davmor2> Mirv: I'll schedule it in somewhere I'm sure :)
[10:03] <Mirv> davmor2: ok :D I can do without, I've tried to compare as much as I can by memorizing how bad it's on stock xenial and if it's any worse with 5.5
[10:04] <davmor2> Mirv: xenial boots now at least :)
[10:07] <Mirv> davmor2: let's see when you have time or if I should just land it when I'm happy with it
[10:08] <Mirv> jibel: do you want to dave to have a look before landing? just so that I know if to consider it a requirement or not
[10:09] <Mirv> ETA could be late next week during our sprint
[10:10] <Mirv> before holidays anyway
[10:11] <davmor2> Mirv: I can probably have a look tomorrow or later today
[10:15] <Mirv> davmor2: oh, ok
[10:21] <jibel> Mirv, if there is no silo left to land in vivid, why not, but it is not a requirement for xenial and our plate is already full
[10:26] <Mirv> jibel: yes I can understand that. if davmor2 has a bit of time I appreciate a quick comparison but no priority
[10:33] <sil2100> Qt 5.5 yay \o/
[11:48] <jibel> sil2100, Kaleo do you know if the gallery app approved yesterday has been published to the store?
[11:48] <Kaleo> jibel, no clue
[11:48] <Kaleo> jibel, bfiller is off for thanksgivign
[11:49] <sil2100> hm, I'm not aware of that
[11:49] <sil2100> Ah, today is turkey day in the US, right?
[11:49] <jibel> Kaleo, yeah that's why I ask, it would have been nice to land it before he's off
[11:49] <Kaleo> jibel, maybe he did, dunno
[11:50] <jibel> I don't tihnk he did. anyway now it'll wait
[11:52] <jibel> Kaleo, regarding silo 48, the test plan has not been updated with the new options
[11:52] <Kaleo> jibel, oh my
[11:52] <Kaleo> jibel, good eye!
[11:52] <davmor2> jibel: I see camera, music, twitter and today scopes as updates on my dogfood so I'm gonna say he didn't
[11:54] <Kaleo> jibel, doing it now
[12:02] <robru___> well that's just great
[12:06] <Kaleo> jibel, the wiki is not letting me authenticate to paste the test :/
[12:07] <jibel> Kaleo, uh, what type of access is required?
[12:07] <Kaleo> jibel, just login to edit
[12:07] <jibel> just an LP account?
[12:07] <Kaleo> jibel, yes
[12:07] <Kaleo> jibel, it's just broken
[12:07] <Kaleo> jibel, :/
[12:07] <Kaleo> jibel, hopefully it's temporary
[12:08] <jibel> Kaleo, it works here
[12:08] * jibel is not proposing to update the test plan ;)
[12:08] <Kaleo> jibel, must be specific to my account for whatever reason
[12:08] <Kaleo> jibel, I have the test here
[12:08] <davmor2> boiko_: I'm just looking at silo 35, the address-book-service test plan still talks about eds is that still used in addressbook?
[12:08] <Kaleo> jibel, just want to paste it :)
[12:09] <Kaleo> jibel, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13514083/
[12:09] <Kaleo> jibel, 4th attempt to login, still waiting
[12:09] <Kaleo> jibel, AH AH
[12:09] <boiko> davmor2: I have no idea, renato or bfiller might know it better, but I think it is still used, I think only syncevolution got dropper
[12:09] <jibel> robru___, I'm sure testing IRC clients at 4AM is really great :P
[12:09] <Kaleo> jibel, working !
[12:09] <davmor2> boiko: ah thanks
[12:09] <robru> jibel, what else would I do at 4AM? you want me to break the train instead? ;-)
[12:10] <jibel> robru, well, 4AM is still time to socialize or sleep
[12:10] <robru> pffff
[12:12] <Kaleo> jibel, one test added, other one coming up
[12:12] <jibel> Kaleo, add a comment on the card once it's done, and we'll unblock it
[12:13] <Kaleo> jibel, ok, thanks
[12:51] <Mirv> popey: I wonder if you can get http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/dropping-letters-click/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/com.ubuntu.dropping-letters_0.1.2.2.69_all.click to the store? see https://code.launchpad.net/~dropping-letters-devs/dropping-letters/trunk (four lines removed)
[12:52] <popey> ooh, that landed finally?
[12:52] <popey> Sure will!
[12:53] <Mirv> popey: ok, thanks! what about the clock? rev 411 would have its similar part done https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clock-dev/ubuntu-clock-app/trunk . I don't see a .click successfully built anywhere however. but it seems the UITK 1.3 is still in a separate branch so I guess it wouldn't be conflicting.
[12:53] <Mirv> popey: that said, I can't set alarms on xenial anyway so right at the moment it's no difference...
[12:53] <popey> they moved to https://core-apps-jenkins.ubuntu.com/
[12:54] <popey> will take a look
[12:54] <popey> i cant get to s-jenins
[12:57] <Mirv> popey: ok I don't see other than branch builds there
[12:57] <Mirv> popey: what about https://private-fileshare.canonical.com/~tjyrinki/droppingletters/com.ubuntu.dropping-letters_0.1.2.2.69_all.click ?
[12:58] <Mirv> popey: it tries to build clock too in s-jenkins but fails with /trunk_dir/backend/modules/Alarm/sound.cpp:27:56: error: 'AppDataLocation' is not a member of 'QStandardPaths'
[12:59] <Mirv> but in that job there hasn't been a successful clock build for at least three months
[13:00] <Mirv> heh, sudo pbuilder --execute --basetgz /var/cache/pbuilder/utopic-armhf.tgz --bindmounts out -- click_build.sh
[13:01] <Mirv> sudo pbuilder --execute --basetgz /var/cache/pbuilder/utopic-armhf.tgz --bindmounts out -- click_build.sh
[13:01] <Mirv> maybe it's that outdated clock job, I try commenting out and modifying to be more like the dropping letters job
[13:01] <popey> Don't worry, I can build fine
[13:02] <popey> It's just that I cant see that server
[13:06] <Mirv> ok
[13:21] <Mirv> davmor2: FYI tested citrain on 12 which I claim to be problematic on QtTesting page. it seems to work (thanks to the recent fixes in the citrain tool) but I needed additional rm -rf ~/.cache/QML/Apps/ via adb shell still before it booted properly up
[13:54] <jibel> Kaleo, it seems that the shutter sound option doesn't work, if I turn it off I still hear the sound
[13:57] <ogra_> you're just holding it wrong
[13:58] <ogra_> (just hold it in a way that your finger covers the speaker and it will work ;) )
[14:01] <Kaleo> jibel, hmmmm, I'm going to guess it's a security thing and I tested in debug mode
[14:01] <Kaleo> nerochiaro, ^
[14:04] <nerochiaro> Kaleo: jibel: what do you mean with debug mode ?
[14:04] <Kaleo> nerochiaro, forget what I said about that
[14:04] <Kaleo> nerochiaro, can you verify again that your code works?
[14:04] <nerochiaro> Kaleo: sure
[14:04] <jibel> Kaleo, I removed the pre-installed click, installed the new one, and rebooted, then played with the camera
[14:04] <nerochiaro> jibel: if you restart the app, does it change anything ?
[14:05] <Kaleo> nerochiaro, does it not work the very first time?
[14:05] <Kaleo> nerochiaro, maybe gsettings key not there yet?
[14:06] <jibel> nerochiaro, no restarting the camera with shutter sound off, or restarting the device then the camera doesn't change anything
[14:06] <nerochiaro> Kaleo: that's my thinking (though it is not a gconf key, it is a QSettings key). let's see what jibel says
[14:06] <jibel> sound is still playing
[14:06] <nerochiaro> Kaleo: jibel: ok, i will look into it some more
[14:06] <jibel> and the QML cache seems to be broken too btw
[14:06] <nerochiaro> jibel: krillin ?
[14:06] <jibel> nerochiaro, yes krillin 189
[14:06] <jibel> rc-proposed
[14:07] <Kaleo> jibel, QML cache?
[14:07] <Kaleo> jibel, nothing to do with the camera right? :)à
[14:07] <jibel> Kaleo, no nothing
[14:07] <Kaleo> ok :)
[14:08] <jibel> Kaleo, I was just checking if the cache from previous version could confuse the app
[14:08] <jibel> Kaleo, but there was none for the camera
[14:08] <Kaleo> right
[14:08] <Kaleo> oh
[14:08] <Kaleo> that's bad
[14:08] <Kaleo> very bad
[14:08] <Kaleo> unless you never ran the previous version?
[14:08] <jibel> Kaleo, it seems to be cleared on boot
[14:08] <Kaleo> ah I heard something like that before
[14:09] <jibel> Kaleo, I tried with the gallery too, verify that there is a cache, reboot, and then .... nothing
[14:09] <Kaleo> :(
[14:09] <seb128> it's on purpose I think
[14:09] <jibel> we already had such regression last cycle but I think it had been fixed
[14:10] <seb128> don't remember the details, but it ensures there is no stalled buggy cache or at least that reboot fixes issues with those
[14:10] <jibel> seb128, is the a bug or a reference somewhere?
[14:10] <jibel> hm, okay
[14:10] <seb128> could also be that it ensures caches are rebuilt after a qt update
[14:12] <jibel> seb128, ah no it was bug 1500372, cache was cleared on stop not reboot, clearing it on boot is fine I suppose
[14:24] <mardy> jibel: I see that you marked bug 1418090 as committed, but according to https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/614 the silo is still under QA
[14:24] <mardy> jibel: just wondering if it was a mistake
[14:30] <jibel> mardy, let me check
[14:32] <jibel> mardy, it is fixed in ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts (0.7+15.04.20151120-0ubuntu1) published yesterday which should be on today's image
[14:32] <jibel> according to the changelog
[14:33] <jibel> mardy, and this is the version on krillin rc-porposed 189
[14:34] <jibel> trainguards do you know why https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/614 is not set to landed while the package is in the archive?
[14:35] <sil2100> jibel: because the xenial package is still in -proposed
[14:35] <sil2100> Autopkgtests are failing
[14:35] <sil2100> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/xenial/update_excuses.html#ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts
[14:35] <jibel> sil2100, ack
[14:35] <jibel> mardy, ^
[14:35] <sil2100> Failing autopkgtests are making me a saad panda
[14:35] <sil2100> :(
[14:36] <mardy> sil2100, jibel: did you just do something to that ticket? Before, it was not telling me about this problem; it was in "Ready for QA" state, that's why I was asking
[14:36] <sil2100> No, I just looked at it
[14:37] <jibel> me too
[14:38] <mardy> sil2100: weird. Anyway, in this case anyway the autopkgtests have a good reason to fail: I forgot to update them according to the latest changes
[14:39] <mardy> sil2100: what should I do now? Fix them in the same branch, or something else?
[14:39] <sil2100> mardy: you can fix them and re-release the same silo
[14:39] <mardy> sil2100: excellent, thanks
[14:54] <rvr> brendand: charles: Silo 27 approved
[14:54] <brendand> great
[14:56] <rvr> jgdx: Do you know how to reproduce crash on silo 39?
[14:56] <jgdx> rvr, I think so.
[14:58] <jgdx> rvr, let me produce some steps
[15:00] <jgdx> rvr, 1. Select worst data connection (cellular/bad wifi). 2. Open System Settings -> Updates 3. As soon as you've pressed the updates icon in System Settings, enable Flight Mode from the indicators.
[15:01] <rvr> jgdx: Thanks, I'll try
[16:03] <mardy> sil2100: about this error: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-058-1-build/17/console
[16:03] <mardy> sil2100: does it mean that I should take the published package and apply the same changes to trunk?
[16:04] <sil2100> mardy: so that's the version that is blocked in proposed, right?
[16:04] <mardy> sil2100: exactly
[16:04] <sil2100> mardy: if that's the version and you're using the very same silo for re-releasing, then just use the force_rebuild flag
[16:04] <mardy> sil2100: if I sync that to trunk, there's nothing left to merge...
[16:05] <mardy> sil2100: ah, perfect
[16:05] <sil2100> mardy: since you'll be re-releasing with some new changes on top :)
[16:14] <tvoss> sil2100, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/227692032/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-ppc64el.trust-store_2.0.0%2B15.04.20151126-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[16:14] <tvoss> sil2100, seems like a ppc64el hiccup, do I just retrigger?
[16:18] <sil2100> tvoss: what silo is it?
[16:18] <tvoss> sil2100, 47
[16:20] <sil2100> tvoss: it *might* be a hiccup, or an issue with the system on ppc64el - retriggering in the meantime
[16:24] <sil2100> tvoss: yeah, looks good now
[16:25] <sil2100> jibel, davmor2, robru: anything to discuss on the landing meeting?
[16:25] <jibel> sil2100, not really
[16:25] <davmor2> sil2100: well there is congratulating a new core dev and more important seeing cats but other than that not really
[16:28] <tvoss> sil2100, thanks
[16:53] <cjwatson> tvoss,sil2100: Just a hiccup, there are some known guest memory corruption issues *hides* but fortunately they're quite rare.
[16:53] * tvoss notes that mentioning ppc64el is a very good way for calling out to cjwatson :)
[16:53] <tvoss> cjwatson, thx :)
[16:54] <cjwatson> tvoss: More that I tend to look into hiccups people report with Launchpad :)
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[06:53] <jabuk> M 1.1 > 4.km SZ od RATEČ @26/11/2015 07:42:07 https://maps.google.com/?q=46.52+N,+13.68+E
[07:18] <slax0r> jutro
[08:38] <dz0ny> https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T051P63TJ-F0F1MD77V/slack_for_ios_upload.jpg
[08:38] <Pepelka> Slack
[08:40] <zdobersek> must log in
[08:40] <zdobersek> very ineffective
[08:40] <zdobersek> not a devop at all
[08:43] <pitastrudl> w0w
[08:46] <dz0ny> http://i.imgur.com/oqol2pn.jpg
[08:47] <pitastrudl> nice
[08:47] <pitastrudl> i want to be on fire
[08:47] <pitastrudl> its cold here
[08:48] <idioterna> i'm on fire
[08:52] <zdobbie> that gurl is on fireeee
[09:07] <CrazyLemon> you are such an alicia
[09:10] <zdobersek> he's just a devop but he's on fire
[09:11] <CrazyLemon> http://www.monitor.si/novica/hofer-bo-prodajal-applove-izdelke/171032/
[09:11] <Pepelka> Hofer bo prodajal Applove izdelke | Monitor
[09:11] <Pepelka> »V Sloveniji dobimo novega ponudnika naprav z logotipom ugriznjenega jabolka. Od četrtka, 4.12.2015, bo Hofer v svojih prodajalnah začel s prodajo nekaterih Applovih izdelkov. Gre za omejeno količino telefonov iPhone 5s in 6 ter tablici iPad Air in Mini 3. Zanimivo je, da bodo naprave na voljo po izredno ugodnih cenah. Telefon bomo dobili že za dobrih štiristo evrov, tablico za stotaka manj. Cene sicer starejših modelov so nižje kot pri uradni
[09:11] <CrazyLemon> so premium :D
[09:11] <speed-> lol
[09:11] <speed-> mislim da bo to ranilo ponos applovcev
[09:12] <idioterna> eh
[09:12] <idioterna> brezveze
[09:12] <zdobersek> cistijo skladisce
[09:12] <idioterna> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero/
[09:12] <Pepelka> Raspberry Pi Zero: the $5 computer - Raspberry Pi
[09:12] <idioterna> tole je kul
[09:12] <Pepelka> »Of all the things we do at Raspberry Pi, driving down the cost of computer hardware remains one of the most important. Even in the developed world, a programmable computer is a luxury item for a lot of people, and every extra dollar that we ask someone to spend decreases the chance that they’ll choose …«
[09:12] <speed-> ja samo ves kak so
[09:12] <speed-> direkt sekta
[09:12] <speed-> vsaj ene par ki jih poznam :)
[09:14] <CrazyLemon> idioterna a boš naročil?
[09:15] <idioterna> ne se k je sold out
[09:15] <idioterna> bom pocaku da bo farnell mel
[09:15] <idioterna> pa bom na fermo vzel
[09:16] <CrazyLemon> idioterna no ping us ko bo available..i'd pay 10€ for that čeprav ne vem kaj bom s tem :D
[09:17] <zdobbie> mini Raspberry Pi A
[09:17] <CrazyLemon> raspbian laufa lxde?
[09:18] <idioterna> laufa pomoje kar hocs
[09:19] <idioterna> 512M rama mas
[09:19] <zdobersek> weeel insurgency maybe not
[09:19] <zdobersek> ceprav najbrz tece se vedno boljs kokr na APUju
[09:20] <CrazyLemon> at least apu can handle a simple internet connection... OH SNAP
[09:20] <CrazyLemon> no he didnt..
[09:20] <CrazyLemon> yes he did
[09:20] <zdobersek> a ti mas na APUju Ethernet vhod
[09:20] <CrazyLemon> direkt not
[09:20] <CrazyLemon> for the speed man
[09:21] <zdobbie> u such lucky
[09:22] <CrazyLemon> you can be as lucky as i am...with the latest APU $insert_link_here
[09:34] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: as mi ze najdu 6P
[09:34] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie jp
[09:43] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: no, don't link it!
[10:02] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie naročil sem ga .. you owe me 700€
[10:03] <CrazyLemon> after the payment you'll receive your 6p
[10:04] <zdobbie> bitch please
[10:04] <zdobbie> 535EUR
[10:05] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie shipping is not free!!!
[10:05] <zdobersek> oh damn, u right
[10:05] <zdobersek> 10EUR
[10:05] <zdobersek> having second thoughts ...
[10:07] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek počakaj kak mesec...bo hofer mel 6p in bo 100€ bl poceni
[10:09] <zdobersek> naah
[10:27] <CrazyLemon> https://github.com/samyk/magspoof
[10:27] <Pepelka> samyk/magspoof · GitHub
[10:27] <Pepelka> »magspoof - MagSpoof is a portable device that can spoof/emulate any magnetic stripe or credit card "wirelessly", even on standard magstripe readers.«
[10:44] <zdobersek> https://pixelastic.github.io/pokemonorbigdata/
[10:44] <Pepelka> Is it Pokemon or Big Data ?
[10:44] <Pepelka> »Is it Pokemon or Big Data ?«
[10:49] <CrazyLemon> https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/12301481_918942781514705_237644434426474791_n.jpg?oh=1044b8019bf946a4e29b9e3c35ac5026&oe=56EB1BD0
[10:50] <CrazyLemon> #yoyo
[10:56] <msev-> a black friday je že bil lol
[10:57] <zdobersek> jutri
[10:59] <zdobbie> not-so-$5 http://uk.farnell.com/raspberry-pi/raspberrypi-zero/sbc-zero/dp/2508221
[10:59] <Pepelka> RASPBERRYPI-ZERO - RASPBERRY-PI - SBC, ZERO | Farnell element14
[10:59] <Pepelka> »Buy RASPBERRY-PI RASPBERRYPI-ZERO SBC, ZERO now at Farnell element14. FREE delivery even for the smallest of orders and competitive pricing on a huge range of RASPBERRY-PI products.«
[11:00] <CrazyLemon> thats UK prices man.. there are no $ $ign$ in UK
[11:01] <zdobbie> !pretvori gbp usd 11.88
[11:01] <zdobbie> .pretvori gbp usd 11.88
[11:01] <zdobbie> ?
[11:01] <CrazyLemon> br0ken :/
[11:02] <pitastrudl> i cri
[11:02] <CrazyLemon> OR IS IT!?
[11:02] <CrazyLemon> .pretvori 11.88 gbp usd
[11:02] <jabuk> CrazyLemon: 11.88 GBP je 17.92 USD
[11:03] <msev-> a to je novo zj
[11:03] <msev-> :D
[11:03] <CrazyLemon> nope
[11:03] <msev-> it aint no 5usd computert
[11:05] <zdobbie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLWaWiCPy6Y
[11:05] <Pepelka> Sestre, le k soncu, svobodi! - YouTube
[11:05] <Pepelka> »Video je nastal ob še eni homofobni debati v Cankarjevem domu (na knjižnem sejmu). Sestre, le k soncu, svobodi! Strimo okove tiranov, prosto izberimo pot,...«
[11:08] <pitastrudl> kaj ima kdo idejo zakaj se mi kondenz nabira ob oknu in potem je vse mokro na policah od okn :s
[11:08] <pitastrudl> je mogoče od tuša?
[11:08] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl tudi mogoče..bl verjetno je pa razlika v temperaturi :)
[11:08] <pitastrudl> ja sam je pa tok kondenza da so police mokre, ker kaplja od oken
[11:09] <pitastrudl> pomoje morm probat imet ventilator pržgan potem ko se stuširam, da vlago posrka
[11:09] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl ja..to je čudno
[11:09] <CrazyLemon> si prepričan da sosedu ne pušča voda? :D
[11:09] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl a to v kopalnici?
[11:09] <pitastrudl> sem prepičan :D
[11:09] <CrazyLemon> mislim..samo kopalnici
[11:10] <pitastrudl> ne
[11:10] <zdobbie> http://www.finance.si/8838712/
[11:10] <Pepelka> Pozabite, da bomo le Silicijeva dolina. Zdaj smo 'zelena referenčna država v digitalni Evropi'
[11:10] <Pepelka> »Kaj gre v ZDA prodajat premier Cerar in zakaj v resnici to ni možno«
[11:10] <pitastrudl> pač ful rad se z vročo vodo tuširam, in nastane ful vlažno v kopalnici
[11:10] <pitastrudl> in pomoje se vlaga zadrži v stanovaju al pa kej pa se potem kondenzira na oknih
[11:10] <pitastrudl> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[11:11] <zdobersek> sadomazo much?
[11:11] <pitastrudl> dobro ne zelo vroča voda
[11:11] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl tudi..ampak vsa tista vročina se sreča z mrzlim oknom in pol se okno začne potit :)
[11:11] <pitastrudl> :D
[11:11] <pitastrudl> CrazyLemon ja sam v kopalnici ni oken :D
[11:12] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl sej ne govorim o kopalnici..ampak o oknih
[11:12] <pitastrudl> da
[11:12] <pitastrudl> sej ne postane kaj pretirano toplejš v stanovanju, potem ko se stuširam
[11:13] <CrazyLemon> to pravi oseba, ki se je tuširala z vročo vodo
[11:13] <CrazyLemon> ful imaš občutek pol kako toplo je :D
[11:13] <pitastrudl> haha
[11:13] <pitastrudl> sam res
[11:13] <pitastrudl> :D
[11:13] <pitastrudl> no zdej sm zaprl vrata od kopalnice pa prižgal ventilator
[11:17] <msev-> http://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-zero
[11:17] <Pepelka> Raspberry Pi Zero | The Pi Hut
[11:17] <Pepelka> »Can you believe that the Raspberry Pi got smaller and cheaper?! The new Raspberry Pi Zero is an super-ultra-low-cost, tiny-small-form-factor Raspberry Pi! We highly recommend adding our "...«
[11:18] <msev-> http://pimoroni.com/zero
[11:18] <Pepelka> Pimoroni - Raspberry Pi Zero
[11:21] <msev-> kva nj nardim s tem pizerotam
[11:21] <CrazyLemon> a rocket
[11:21] <msev-> za openhab je prepočasn
[11:21] <msev-> za to še zmerm rabm pi2
[11:21] <msev-> če bi se šu hišno avtomacijo
[11:23] <msev-> tako pravo ceno ma za impulse buy
[11:23] <msev-> :D
[11:32] <msev-> evo za 10,6eur dobimo pi zero v SLO
[11:32] <msev-> iz pi huta
[11:33] <msev-> to mi je kul cena :D
[11:42] <zdobersek> wat een ripoff
[11:42] <pitastrudl> i knov rajt
[11:53] <zdobbie> but do you
[11:53] <pitastrudl> jes
[11:55] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: did ya contribute https://twitter.com/dcotar/status/669840436849197056
[11:55] <Pepelka> Dalibor Čotar auf Twitter: "Igor Kralj: Lunix ;) pardon Linux je zakon tudi za mulce. #mrezaznanja #Arnes #heker https://t.co/JygShsacbK"
[12:28] <pitastrudl> bljed
[12:28] <Krt57> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YOi_fozteUM/VkTRXaPKgfI/AAAAAAAABwA/fZoHEgjhHUU/s506/15+-+1.gif
[12:28] <pitastrudl> hahaha
[12:31] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek i did not
[12:39] <msev-> hahahaha
[13:28] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: shame *da-ding da-ding* shame *da-ding da-ding*
[14:44] <upd> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt2MIB8oCK0
[14:44] <Pepelka> Guy thinks his sister is hot - YouTube
[14:44] <Pepelka> »Comments are restricted because you all are apple-treeing each other and bringing lumber into this comment thread. I'm now at facebook.com/KellyCommaRoy The ...«
[14:44] <upd> WARNING: old.
[15:03] <napsy> noja
[15:03] <napsy> se bol cudne stvari najdejo na reddit
[15:03] <slax0r> dude...its the story of luke and leia :P
[15:04] <napsy> heh aja
[15:19] <Pepelka> [Web Upd8] Andrew: Wirelessly Transfer Photos From Nikon/Sony/Canon Cameras To Your Computer With Airnef http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webupd8/~3/oq-Gw2Vhx6Q/wirelessly-transfer-photos-from.html
[16:58] <zdobersek> noice http://www.24ur.com/novice/slovenija/ljubljanski-grad-obarvan-z-mavricnimi-barvami-svetniki-nsi-pa-na-nogah.html
[16:58] <Pepelka> 24ur.com - Ljubljanski grad obarvan z mavričnimi barvami, svetniki NSi pa na nogah
[16:58] <Pepelka> »"Gre za zlorabo položaja," vztrajajo v svetniškem klubu NSi in župana Jankovića sprašujejo, kje ima podlago za svoja dejanja. Župan je še pred tem dejal, da občina podpira vso civilno iniciativo, ki je za zakon.«
[17:23] <CrazyLemon> you like colours huh?
[17:42] <zdobersek> yeee
[18:31] <CrazyLemon> http://kids.nationalgeographic.com/content/dam/kids/photos/articles/Other%20Explore%20Photos/A-G/Coloring%20Book/coloring-book-animals.pdf
[18:31] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek ^ you can use those pretty colours here!
[18:31] <zdobersek> naaah
[19:18] <lynxlynxlynx> dz0ny_: https://www.zeemaps.com/edit/9Bvz8f0Ksgb3LHjBTUiseg
[19:18] <Pepelka> HabitRPG
[19:18] <Pepelka> »(Edit) Habitica — mapified! Click Additions to add your marker!«
[19:19] <lynxlynxlynx> errr
[19:19] <lynxlynxlynx> http://mixu.net/nwm/
[19:19] <Pepelka> nwm - A dynamic window manager for X11 written with Node.js
[19:24] <yang> ddos je
[19:37] <anny_> čer
[20:01] <CrazyLemon> https://youtu.be/OrH6UMYAVsk
[20:01] <Pepelka> My Life After 44 Years In Prison - YouTube
[20:01] <Pepelka> »Otis Johnson went to jail at the age of 25. When he got out at 69, he rejoined a world that was starkly different from the one he remembered. This is his sto...«
[20:01] <zdobbie_> ...
[20:11] <upd> a mogoče kdo ve mam en led trak, ima 2 beli žici, ena ima gor črtkano črto če je - ta ali +, sem pozabil, multimeter mi pa ne dela :/
[20:14] <idioterna> ponavad je + oznacen
[20:14] <CrazyLemon> upd trial&error man..trial&error - the best school there is
[20:15] <upd> trial&error sam 1x narobe povežeš led
[20:15] <upd> ni + označen, dva bela kabla, en ima pa črtkano črto gor
[20:15] <upd> bom predvideval da je to -
[20:16] <CrazyLemon> thats the spirit of trial&error!
[20:16] <CrazyLemon> :D
[20:16] <upd> a smoke :)
[20:17] <CrazyLemon> ni smokea.. preverjeno ko sm rihtal podaljšek :D
[20:20] <upd> http://www.ceneje.si/Izdelek/3435780/dom-in-vrt/oprema-za-dom/svetila-luci-svetilke/commel-nadgradni-senzor-311-101
[20:20] <Pepelka> COMMEL NADGRADNI SENZOR 311-101 - Ceneje.si
[20:20] <Pepelka> »commel nadgradni senzor 311-101«
[20:20] <upd> mam še ta senzor pa noče delat dull, zgleda rele crknu
[20:21] <upd> slo. navodila ima fajn, pol so v hr pol pa v slo
[20:28] <yang> CrazyLemon: kul video
[20:28] <CrazyLemon> yang vem ja..zato pa shaream
[20:28] * CrazyLemon nikoli ne sharea noncool videos
[20:29] <dz0ny_> way+s ++++
[20:30] <dz0ny_> ups
[20:30] * dz0ny_ needs to change password
[20:30] <CrazyLemon> well NOW we know that was your password
[20:31] <yang> teengirl18hot
[20:31] <dz0ny_> mywifeisugly
[20:31] <dz0ny_> \mode -o dz0ny_
[20:31] <dz0ny_> :>
[20:32] <CrazyLemon> ta noč ni tvoj dan an :P
[20:41] <idioterna> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slkQohGDQCI
[20:41] <Pepelka> Bernie Sanders Democratic Socialism FULL Speech - Georgetown Univ - Nov 19, 2015 - YouTube
[20:41] <Pepelka> »Bernie Sanders to Talk at Georgetown on Democratic Socialism in America. November 18, 2015 – Presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont will speak...«
[20:42] <CrazyLemon> thats ^ a man crush for sure
[20:45] <zdobbie_> FTB
[20:46] <CrazyLemon> F*** that bi*** ????
[20:46] <zdobbie_> feel the Bern
[20:46] <yang> lol
[20:48] <CrazyLemon> well..that also makes sense
[20:49] <idioterna> no sej za une k ne znate skoz dolg speech pocakat
[20:49] <idioterna> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_8R6PgGcTw
[20:49] <Pepelka> Bernie Sanders Speech On Democratic Socialism - YouTube
[20:49] <Pepelka> »Bernie Sanders delivered his long-awaited speech advocating for democratic socialism in America. He pointed to the example of FDR’s New Deal which was part o...«
[20:49] <idioterna> tle je politicn komentar
[20:51] <yang> grem pogledat
[21:08] <zdobbie_> https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3uchai/which_is_the_dumbest_show_you_ever_watched/cxds103
[21:08] <Pepelka> SquattingNinja comments on Which is the dumbest show you ever watched?
[21:08] <Pepelka> »1411 points and 2927 comments so far on reddit«
[22:25] <upd> i like Bernie Sanders
[22:26] <idioterna> you socialist nigga
[22:27] <upd> power to middle class!
[22:28] <upd> https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/669673451284623360
[22:28] <Pepelka> Bernie Sanders auf Twitter: "By taxing Wall Street speculators, we can save middle-class families sending kids to college an average of $9400 each year."
[22:28] <upd> https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/669609767845801984
[22:28] <Pepelka> Bernie Sanders auf Twitter: "We are the only wealthy country on Earth that doesn't guarantee health care to all people as a right. Let’s change that."
[22:29] <upd> he has a point.
[22:29] <upd> well
[22:30] <upd> my perfect world je, vsi imajo enako plače, to je prva stvar ki bi jo spremenil v slo. dobi vsak ki dela 1500€
[22:31] <idioterna> weird
[22:31] <idioterna> js nism se nikol mel tok nizke place
[22:31] <idioterna> razn prve tri mesce na zemanti no
[22:31] <upd> ja ampak ko ima bankir, 9k na mesec ni normalno
[22:32] <idioterna> zakaj ne
[22:32] <upd> ker če ima fizični delavec 800€
[22:32] <idioterna> ce ma 9k na mesec place to pomen da drzavi da 15k na mesec davkov
[22:32] <idioterna> to ni slabo
[22:32] <upd> pomeni da je bankir vreden 11x več
[22:32] <upd> sej davkov bi isto bilo
[22:32] <upd> ker bi se njegovih 9k razdelilo na tiste ki dobijo 800€
[22:33] <idioterna> ja sam ne vem ce bi to dobr delal
[22:33] <upd> po nobeni logiki ni normalno da je en 11x več vreden od drugega
[22:33] <idioterna> sej ni oseba vec vredna
[22:33] <idioterna> njegovo znanje je vec vredno
[22:33] <idioterna> pa odgovornost k jo ma
[22:33] <upd> če ima delavec iq 80 pomeni da ima pol un 880
[22:33] <idioterna> zakaj iq
[22:33] <upd> jah če je 11x več vreden
[22:33] <idioterna> sej nista placana za iq teste resevat
[22:34] <upd> mora bit 11x bolj pameten očitno
[22:34] <idioterna> ce bi bla, pol bi bil tvoj pomislek upravicen
[22:34] <idioterna> ne
[22:34] <idioterna> pomen da se njegovo znanje 11x bolj potrebuje
[22:35] <idioterna> yangu pa po moje ni vsec bernie
[22:35] <idioterna> k prav da bi ukinu kazni za droge
[22:35] <upd> ah znanje, to bi se s časom popravlo, če bi bili vsi enako plačani
[22:35] <upd> zdej se pa ne da, ker se dobiva po vezah job
[22:36] <upd> tako bi pa tistemu bilo vseno koga bo zaposlil da ga drugi izobrazi
[22:37] <idioterna> ne vem ce
[22:37] <idioterna> recimo vecina mojih vrstnikov je celo srednjo solo zurala
[22:37] <idioterna> js sm pa raziskovalne naloge pisal pa programiral
[22:37] <idioterna> oni so sli na faks, k so mel bogate starse k so jih financno podpiral
[22:38] <idioterna> jsm su pa v sluzbo
[22:38] <idioterna> zdej pa pravs da js ne bi smel met 4k neto
[22:39] <upd> ja in zdej so oni krivi da ti nisi žural ?
[22:40] <upd> pa morš še povedat kaj ti tvoji vrstniki delajo
[22:40] <upd> a tud tolk dobijo plače kot jo ti
[22:40] <upd> vrjetno ne
[22:40] <upd> vrjetno so to že vedeli, prej pa so zato hodil žurat
[22:41] <upd> zakaj se pa nekdo bolj trudi, jaz zato k ve da bo dobil večjo nagrado
[22:41] <upd> dej obema isto nagrado, pa da pol vidimo če se bo še nekdo bolj trudil
[22:42] <idioterna> moji vrstniki dobijo take place k so se spogajal zanje
[22:42] <idioterna> ne vem kolk dobijo
[22:42] <idioterna> niti me ne skrbi
[22:42] <idioterna> sam ti pravs da si js svoje ne zasluzm
[22:42] <idioterna> ceprov sm startal z nule pa ogromn investiru v svoje znanje
[22:42] <upd> ok maš prav
[22:42] <idioterna> in zdej si reku da morm js dobit isto nagrado k drugi, da se ne bom vec trudil?
[22:43] <upd> res si zaslužiš večjo plačo
[22:43] <idioterna> ja sej js nism zihr da si jo
[22:43] <idioterna> mislm
[22:43] <upd> sam ne 9x večjo če že pol bi bilo od 1000€ do 3000€
[22:43] <idioterna> se vec, jsm preprican, da si kot druzba komot prvoscmo minimalca
[22:43] <idioterna> ja lej zdej se pogajam z eno firmo za 30k bruto na mesec
[22:44] <idioterna> ce mi rata, pol bom mel v praksi zlo podobno placo k bankirji
[22:44] <upd> sam problem je, k en dobi tolk keša, potem zared ene osebe trpijo 4je drugi
[22:44] <idioterna> do they?
[22:44] <idioterna> mislm, a ti misls da dnar k ga bodo zapravl za mojo zaposlitev
[22:44] <idioterna> bi drugac razdelil med vec ljudi?
[22:44] <upd> seveda
[22:44] <upd> am
[22:44] <upd> ne zase bojo pobral valda
[22:45] <idioterna> ja
[22:45] <idioterna> valda
[22:45] <idioterna> sam to pa pol ni placa
[22:45] <upd> če bi bilo omejeno max, bi se pa razdelil
[22:45] <idioterna> mislm da ti ne stekas tega
[22:45] <idioterna> folk k najvec zasluz
[22:45] <idioterna> ne dobi place
[22:45] <idioterna> ampak raste vrednost stvarem v njihovi lasti
[22:45] <idioterna> podjetjem, skladom, posestvom, tovarnam
[22:45] <idioterna> no, al pa pada
[22:45] <idioterna> ampak folk k dela za placo je tist, k vrednost dviguje al pa znizuje
[22:46] <idioterna> in kadar delavci delajo dobro, takrat najvec zasluzijo lastniki
[22:46] <idioterna> problem je da delavci so v podrejenem polozaju
[22:46] <idioterna> to lahko resis s sindikati
[22:46] <idioterna> torej, zdruzenji delavcev
[22:46] <idioterna> kjer potem delavci recejo "ok, vse boste posteno placal, al pa noben ne bo delu"
[22:48] <upd> daš vsem enako plačo pa se rešiš vseh the problemov še sindikata ne rabiš
[22:49] <idioterna> pa meje zapres, da ti pametni ne pobegnejo?
[22:49] <upd> ohh
[22:49] <upd> sej jest bi to na celem svetu naredil
[22:51] <idioterna> no ce bi na celem svetu
[22:51] <idioterna> pol pa tut mene ne bi motil
[22:52] <upd> valda, drugač bi vsi pobegnil :d
[22:52] <upd> to že zdej k dobijo 500€ premal
[22:58] <idioterna> js bom pobegnu pred ksenofobijo
[22:58] <upd> idioterna,
[22:58] <upd> kolk let prezgodaj si se rodil
[22:59] <upd> 500 ?
[22:59] <idioterna> vseen mi je
[22:59] <idioterna> pac v multikulturno mesto se bom preselu
[22:59] <idioterna> sej ljubljana je tut multikulturna
[22:59] <idioterna> ampak se neki prebujajo naciji
[23:00] <upd> valda se prebujajo če pa grad obarvajo vijolčno
[23:00] <upd> mavričasto
[23:00] <upd> haha
[23:00] <idioterna> nazaj u fojbe nej grejo
[23:00] <upd> am ja
[23:00] <upd> kje pa je to multikulturno mesto
[23:00] <upd> a že kej veš ?
[23:00] <idioterna> vem ja
[23:01] <upd> dej mi povej
[23:01] <idioterna> why?
[23:01] <idioterna> a bos prsu tja ksenofobijo zganjat? :)
[23:01] <upd> ne nisem še slišal za takšno mesto
[23:01] <idioterna> aja nisi
[23:01] <idioterna> ful jih je po svetu
[23:02] <upd> hmm
[23:03] <idioterna> berlin, frankfurt, london, edinburgh, dublin, pariz, lyon, dunaj, pa zurich so vsi se kr bliz
[23:03] <upd> ravno gledam ja
[23:03] <upd> http://www.theculturetrip.com/north-america/usa/california/articles/the-10-most-multicultural-cities-in-the-world/
[23:03] <Pepelka> »From the Americas and Europe to Asia and Australia, the world is brimming with vibrant, multicultural cities. Explore them in our guide.«
[23:04] <idioterna> pol mas pa se montreal, toronto, vancouver
[23:05] <upd> vancouver tam je že dost slovencev
[23:05] <idioterna> mhm
[23:05] <idioterna> sam ne dost da bi se loh vsajal
[23:05] <idioterna> da ne marajo imigrantov :)
[23:06] <upd> ja tko mislem, če bi kdaj slovensko družbo pogrešal
[23:07] <upd> še ene sorodnike imam tam
[23:07] <idioterna> joj
[23:07] <idioterna> ne maram slovenske druzbe
[23:07] <idioterna> se v sloveniji se rajs izogibam slovenski druzbi
[23:07] <upd> not all are bad
[23:07] <idioterna> aja ne sej pac
[23:07] <idioterna> nocm rect da so slovenci bad
[23:07] <idioterna> sam da je slovenskost neki zlo ruralnega
[23:07] <idioterna> pa primitivnega
[23:08] <idioterna> pac velik alkohola pa preprostega humorja
[23:08] <upd> naah, je še dost slabših
[23:08] <idioterna> v to ne dvomim
[23:08] <idioterna> mislm sej v resnici je avstrijska pa nemska zlo podobna
[23:09] <idioterna> francoska je recimo mal bols no
[23:09] <idioterna> k majo revolucijo v narodni identiteti
[23:09] <upd> sam tam ni varno zdej :/
[23:10] <idioterna> aja?
[23:11] <idioterna> kako si pa prsu do te ugotovitve? :)
[23:12] <upd> enostavno bum bum
[23:12] <upd> https://news.vice.com/article/france-is-getting-more-intolerant-and-racist-according-to-human-rights-report
[23:12] <Pepelka> France Is Getting More Intolerant and Racist, According to Human Rights Report | VICE News
[23:12] <Pepelka> »A new report by the Council of Europe's human rights commissioner says discrimination and hate speech are on the rise in France.«
[23:12] <yang> idioterna si zgleda zeli zivljenja v multikulturno teroristicno ogrozenem mestu
[23:12] <upd> notes a surge in "homophobic, xenophobic, and anti-Muslim" incidents, and says France is struggling with an overall "loss of tolerance."
[23:12] <upd> oh noo
[23:13] <upd> pa sej terorizem, ni tak problem
[23:13] <idioterna> ma vi ste usekani
[23:13] <upd> umreš lahko vsak trenutek
[23:13] <yang> idioterna: ne mores imeti politiko asimilacije imigrantov in socialnih doklad, ce imas razmerje plac med zaposlenimi 1:100 recimo, s tem da top bogatasi niti davkov ne placujejo
[23:13] <idioterna> vec se jih je z avti pobil vsak letosnji dan
[23:13] <idioterna> vi pa "ni varno"
[23:13] <upd> true
[23:14] <yang> idioterna: a je po tvoji logiki en clovek 100x vec vreden od enega drugega ? kaksna enakopravnost je to
[23:14] <upd> ni varno v smislu da je bolj nevarno kot tukaj
[23:14] <idioterna> yang: ne vem kje si to matematiko najdu
[23:14] <upd> yang, 100x več je vreden, to je že bog!
[23:15] <yang> idioterna: drzave z stabilno socialo nimajo velikih nihanj v razmerju med placami, stavim da pri Akrapovicu dobijo njegovi delavci vsaj 1:10 njegove place in ne 1:100
[23:15] <idioterna> yang: a teb se zdi da je tvoje znanje stanja pri miru enako kot moje znanje programiranja?
[23:15] <idioterna> mislm, enako vredno?
[23:15] <idioterna> dejva pol zamenjat, ane
[23:15] <yang> idioterna: jaz te sprasujem iz eticnega vidika, kot clovek cloveka, zakaj ti mislis da si 100x vec vreden kot nekdo drug
[23:16] <yang> zato ker znas programirat mislis da si bolj pameten od nekoga ki prodaja kralje ulice
[23:16] <yang> a ti ves kako tezko se je pobrati z ulice
[23:16] <yang> predno te nekdo zaposli itd.
[23:16] <yang> verjetno sam nikoli nisi bil na ulici
[23:16] <yang> da bi to vedel
[23:17] <yang> pa bi hodil naokoli v umazanih cunjah in prosjacil ce te zaposlijo kot programerja
[23:17] <yang> ce ze zagovarjas begunce recimo
[23:18] <yang> kdo bo njim dal delo
[23:18] <yang> smrdijo in umazani so
[23:18] <yang> torej so po tvoji logiki 100x manj vredni od tebe
[23:18] <upd> v nemčiji bojo delal za hrano pa streho pa menda 200€
[23:18] <idioterna> yang: jaz te cist z eticnega vidika sprasujem zakaj se ti zdi prav pretepat zenske
[23:18] <yang> ne menjaj teme
[23:19] <idioterna> ne menjam teme
[23:19] <yang> nimas razcisceno
[23:19] <idioterna> ne, postavil sem ti vprasanje
[23:19] <yang> po eni strani bi sprejemal begunce, da bi nevem delali zate za 200 eur
[23:19] <idioterna> evo, spet
[23:19] <idioterna> zakaj ti ocetu krades denar?
[23:19] <idioterna> pa zakaj zafrkavas klosarje po mestu
[23:19] <yang> mah
[23:19] <idioterna> a mislis da so si sami izbrali tako zivljenje?
[23:20] <yang> jaz vem da si ga niso
[23:20] <idioterna> zakaj jih pa pol vedno rugas v glavo
[23:20] <yang> kaksen si ga je tudi izbral
[23:20] <yang> kaksnega pa so delozirali zaradi bogve cesa
[23:20] <idioterna> pa jim razlagas da naj si sluzbo dobijo
[23:20] <idioterna> namest da teb tezijo za dnar
[23:21] <yang> ti bos mel recimo 30k place
[23:21] <yang> se rad pohvalis
[23:21] <idioterna> upam ja
[23:21] <idioterna> mam se precej dela do tam
[23:21] <idioterna> ko bo to res
[23:21] <yang> se pravi si vreden 100x vec kot en klosar
[23:21] <idioterna> aja?
[23:21] <idioterna> vids, spet narobe
[23:21] <idioterna> ti kar trdis
[23:21] <idioterna> skos se lazes
[23:21] <idioterna> se kr nesramn
[23:22] <yang> zanima me kaj bos pol dejansko naredil za druzbo ce bos imel tok place
[23:22] <yang> al bos za jahto sparal
[23:23] <idioterna> to bom ja
[23:23] <idioterna> preprical si me
[23:23] <idioterna> za jahto bom sparal
[23:23] <yang> mislim da nis dojel poante kar je hotel bernie povedat
[23:23] <idioterna> ne bom tak k ti, k se z avtom okol voz
[23:23] <idioterna> ampak bom za jahto sparal.
[23:24] <yang> cisto nic drugace ne razmisljas kot tistih 1% bogatunov, v resnici si zelis biti eden izmed njih
[23:24] <idioterna> putain bourgeoise
[23:24] <idioterna> ja ja js sm 1% ja
[23:24] <idioterna> kdo od naju je vec prispeval k druzbi?
[23:24] <idioterna> ti, k unicujes mesto s svojim avtom
[23:24] <yang> kaj se z mano enacis
[23:24] <idioterna> zato k me kritiziras
[23:24] <yang> kaj se mas z mano zta primerjat
[23:25] <idioterna> zato ker moji starsi nimajo stanovanja zame
[23:25] <idioterna> pa nimam avtomobila
[23:25] <idioterna> pa nimam jahte
[23:25] <yang> grem spat
[23:25] <idioterna> pa vecino prihodkov investiram v prihodnost druzbe
[23:25] <idioterna> ti pa jamras.
[23:25] <idioterna> pa cel life ze uzivas v druzbeni neodgovornosti
[23:25] <idioterna> boli te kurac.
[23:25] <idioterna> pol bi pa men razlagal
[23:25] <idioterna> kaj morm js nardit
[23:26] <yang> nared neki za prihodnost druzbe ja
[23:27] <yang> ce zmores
[23:27] <idioterna> prepricu si me
[23:27] <idioterna> ne zasluzs si
[23:28] <idioterna> bom rajs za jahto sparu
[23:28] <idioterna> mulc nehvalezn
[23:29] <upd> buy more bitcoins!
[23:29] <upd> i would
[23:29] <upd> jebeš jahto
[23:29] <yang> ja sej res idioterna lahko mi doniras kak BTC
[23:29] <yang> kaj bos s tolkimi coini
[23:29] <upd> sej ne veš kolk jih ima
[23:29] <upd> pa kaj jih boš ti rabu
[23:29] <yang> tm okol 300 pravi
[23:29] <upd> sej imaš streho pa hrano
[23:31] <idioterna> js tut mislm da nam za jahto sparu
[23:31] <idioterna> rajs bom investiru v liberalno multikulturno druzbo
[23:31] <idioterna> kjer so droge legalne pa geji enakopravni
[23:31] <yang> no evo spet
[23:32] <idioterna> yup
[23:32] <idioterna> teb je pac vseen za zatirane manjsine
[23:32] <idioterna> teb je sam vazn da se mas ti fino
[23:32] <idioterna> dokler so tvoje droge legalne je teb vse kul
[23:32] <yang> jst dejansko vsak dan gledam zatirane manjsine, medtem ko ti tipkas na racunalnik
[23:33] <yang> tko da prosim ne mi o tem govorit
[23:33] <idioterna> kaj pa nardis da bi jim izboljsal zivljenje?
[23:33] <yang> prijazen sem do njih
[23:33] <yang> za razliko od koga drugega
[23:33] <idioterna> ni videt
[23:33] <idioterna> ce gres na referendum pa glasujes za to da bi jim otezil zivljenje
[23:33] <idioterna> pol nisi lih prijazen
[23:35] <yang> ne bom debatiral o vedno istih temah
[23:35] <yang> pocakajmo na izid referenduma
[23:35] <yang> nevem al bom sploh sel na volisce
[23:38] <yang> idioterna: ko bos pa res premozen pa bos morda imel svojo firmo in bos dajal svojim zaposlenim dobro placo in po moznosti se moznost nastanitve, kot so jo nekateri kapitalisti 100 let nazaj, takrat pa kapo dol
[23:39] <yang> od 30.000 eur ce jih das 10% za dobrodelnost se ti nikjer ne bo bistveno poznalo
[23:39] <yang> ampak jaz nevem kaksno vizijo imas ti
[23:40] <yang> jaz vem da ce bi imel tako bajno placo bi 10% namenil za dobrodelnost, ali pa ustanovil neko manjso fundacijo
[23:40] <idioterna> 30k bruto
[23:40] <idioterna> men se zdi da ti sploh ne razumes
[23:40] <idioterna> da je 10% od 30k bruto tretjina place
[23:41] <yang> ja to mas prav
[23:41] <yang> pa spet odvisno kje zivis ane
[23:41] <yang> v svici je 5000 eur drugace kot 5000 eur v sloveniji
[23:42] <yang> zdaj ce imas partnerko in otroke, pa samo en dohodek, bo morda ravno prav za pokrivati vse stroske
[23:42] <yang> ce je to nevem 10.000 neto v svici
[23:43] <yang> nisem nikoli racunal koliko zivljenje stane v svici, vem pa da je bistveno drazje kot tukaj
[23:43] <yang> 300.000 bruto za vrhunskega IT strokovnjaka je verjetno cisto normalna placa v TOP IT firmah
[23:44] <yang> Za Silicon Valley vem da dobijo nekateri toliko
[23:48] <idioterna> men fb ni hotu tok dat v valleyu
[23:48] <idioterna> pa pol nism su
[23:48] <upd> kolk bi ti pa dal
[23:49] <idioterna> 180k na let
[23:49] <idioterna> jsm pa hotu 250k
[23:50] <upd> toj pa mal ja
[23:50] <idioterna> ja za v valleyu bit je ful premal
[23:50] <idioterna> ce bi bil single 20 year old bi se nekak slo
[23:50] <yang> idioterna: glej, saj ni nic narobe da so ljudje bogati, samo moralen moras biti vseskozi....jaz recimo Stallmanu nic ne zavidam da je miljonar, v bistvu mu prav privoscim
[23:50] <upd> idioterna, jup
[23:51] <idioterna> kaj pa stallman nardi za reveze, nc!
[23:52] <idioterna> zastonj softver jim da oni pa se za racunalnik nimajo
[23:52] <yang> racunalnik jim da goodwill
[23:52] <yang> ali pa sosed
[23:53] <yang> on je ze izpolnil svoje poslanstvo
[23:53] <yang> stallman
[23:53] <yang> zdaj je pac na drugih da sirijo njegovo idejo
[23:53] <idioterna> ja pol sm ga js tut
[23:53] <idioterna> js tut dajem free software vsem
[23:54] <yang> no upam da vsaj Stallmanu doniras
[23:54] <yang> oz fundaciji
[23:54] <idioterna> zakaj bi njemu doniral
[23:54] <idioterna> on je ze miljonar
[23:54] <idioterna> ja nej on
[23:54] <idioterna> on ma vec dnara k js
[23:54] <idioterna> pa nc druzine
[23:54] <idioterna> pa drugih obveznosti
[23:55] <yang> mogoce pa si na skrivaj zeli druzine, kaj ves
[23:56] <yang> ceprav dvomim, glede na to kar je zapisal na blogu
[23:56] <yang> tud ce jutri umre
[23:56] <yang> je izpolnil poslanstvo
[23:57] <yang> 20 let nazaj ga se ni
[23:57] <yang> zdaj ga pa sigurno je
[23:57] <idioterna> men je vseen, js sm svojga ze
[23:57] <yang> idioterna: po cem se bodo pa tebe spomnili ?
[23:57] <idioterna> ja gay rights ane
[23:58] <yang> mhm
[23:58] <yang> a si bil pobudnik iniciative ?
[23:59] <idioterna> ne, seveda ne
[23:59] <idioterna> napisal sm predlog novga zakona
[23:59] <yang> ok
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.355109
| 2015-11-26T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-africa
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[06:54] <Kilos> hellooo africa
[14:29] <Bilel_mk> hey Kilos
[14:34] <Kilos> hi Bilel_mk craigzim
[14:35] <Bilel_mk> am new here :D
[14:35] <Kilos> yes welcome
[14:35] <Kilos> feel free to hang here all the time
[14:35] <craigzim> hello Bilel_mk , Kilos
[14:36] <Bilel_mk> sure thanks
[14:36] <Bilel_mk> hiya craigzim
[14:36] <Bilel_mk> well Kilos I was invited here by Naeil
[14:36] <craigzim> Hi Bilel_mk
[14:36] <Kilos> if you need help with any thing just atate what the prolem is and wait for someone to get to you
[14:36] <craigzim> where are you
[14:37] <Bilel_mk> craigzim , i am from tunisia
[14:37] <Kilos> naeil in tunisia?
[14:37] <Kilos> haha
[14:38] <Bilel_mk> yes
[14:38] <Bilel_mk> :P
[14:38] <Kilos> :D
[14:39] <Kilos> hot and dry hey craigzim
[14:39] <Kilos> we in serious drought mode here in za
[14:40] <craigzim> dry here but maybe rain later
[14:40] <Kilos> many cities are on water restrictions
[14:40] <craigzim> here too not much so far
[14:40] <Kilos> Bilel_mk craigzim is in zimbabwe
[14:40] * Bilel_mk is swimming here xDD
[14:41] <Kilos> hahaha
[14:41] <Bilel_mk> nice to meet u craigzim :D am from Tunisia
[14:41] <craigzim> I swim when I get home
[14:45] <Bilel_mk> :)
[18:12] <Bilel_mk> Kilos, hello! Sorry if i bather you ,did know from where can i download Ubuntu touch to my phone?
[18:13] <Kilos> oh my
[18:14] <Kilos> look here
[18:14] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[18:15] <Na3iL> \o/
[18:15] <Kilos> hi Na3iL
[18:16] <Na3iL> hiyas Kilos Bilel_mk
[18:16] <Kilos> QA google where to download ubuntu touch for cell
[18:16] <QA> Kilos: "Install Ubuntu Touch - Ubuntu Wiki" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install :: "Ubuntu on phones | Ubuntu" http://www.ubuntu.com/phone :: "Touch/Devices - Ubuntu Wiki" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices :: "Ubuntu on tablets | Ubuntu" http://www.ubuntu.com/tablet :: "How to install Ubuntu Touch on your Android phone or tablet - How ..." http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/linux/how-install-ubuntu-touch-image-3531970/…
[18:16] <Bilel_mk> Kilos, thank's a lot
[18:16] <Kilos> you guys must use the bot
[18:16] <Kilos> you welcome
[18:16] <Kilos> hope you get it
[18:18] <Bilel_mk> yup
[18:18] <Na3iL> QA, please need a coffee
[18:18] <QA> Na3iL: Sorry...
[18:18] <Na3iL> how can I ask for coffee Kilos :(
[18:18] <Kilos> QA coffee on
[18:18] <Na3iL> It is raining here, I can't go out
[18:18] * QA puts the kettle on
[18:19] <Kilos> if you want a mug type in QA coffee please
[18:20] <Na3iL> got it :D
[18:20] <Kilos> Na3iL ask quick she has it ready in 4 mins
[18:20] <Na3iL> QA, coffee please
[18:20] <QA> Na3iL: Righto
[18:21] <Na3iL> :D
[18:21] <Kilos> haha
[18:22] <Kilos> QA are you a bot
[18:22] <QA> I am the Queen of bots Kilos
[18:22] <QA> Coffee's ready for Kilos and Na3iL!
[18:23] <Kilos> QA thanks
[18:23] <QA> Kilos: no problemo
[18:23] <Na3iL> QA, thanks
[18:23] <QA> sure thing, Na3iL
[18:23] <Kilos> im not sure how much i have taught her yet
[18:23] <Kilos> QA gracias
[18:23] <QA> Kilos: What?
[18:24] <Kilos> ai!
[18:25] <Kilos> QA gracias
[18:25] <QA> ¡de nada!
[18:25] <Na3iL> aw! it speaks espanish too, very impressed!
[18:26] <Kilos> Na3iL you guys can teach her to speak your language
[18:26] <Kilos> you type in QA whatever is <reply> answer
[18:51] <melodie> hello!
[18:51] <melodie> Kilos ! How are you?
[20:00] <melodie> hi again
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.379284
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"Bilel_mk",
"Kilos",
"Na3iL",
"QA",
"craigzim",
"melodie"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-africa"
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-vn
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[04:44] <vubuntor985> Em chào các anh ạ,
[04:44] <vubuntor985> do tối qua em nghịch dại, muốn thay đổi cái hình nền ở màn hình đăng nhập
[04:45] <vubuntor985> e có cái cái dconf-editor + cái compizconfig-settings-manager rồi sửa linh tinh
[04:45] <vubuntor985> nên là giờ cái màn hình đăng nhập lần đầu khi khởi động ubuntu của e nó biến thành thế này ạ
[04:47] <vubuntor985> http://i.imgur.com/8rTGZCe.jpg
[04:47] <vubuntor985> các anh có thể chỉ cho e cách để quay về màn hình login như mặc định của ubuntu được không ạ
[04:48] <vubuntor985> em cảm ơn các anh ạ :)
[04:53] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor985: chuẩn rồi
[04:53] <MrTuxHdb> giờ login thôi
[04:53] <MrTuxHdb> đẹp quá còn gì
[12:40] <vubuntor031> Hi everybody
[12:40] <Stanley00> !hi
[21:45] <vubuntor088> hello
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.384267
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"Stanley00",
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2015-11-26-#ubuntustudio-devel
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[07:52] <zequence> OvenWerk1: I would add all channels. Why would anyone add more cards, but only two channels from each?
[11:21] <sakrecoer_> OvenWerk1: the grey-out frame arround the window in 16.04 is also present arrouund the menus that pop up from the xfce4-pannel icons...
[11:21] <sakrecoer_> must be some png that was saved without the gammalayer
[11:21] <sakrecoer_> or is missing..
[11:22] <sakrecoer_> in gedit, the png frame is there, there is clearly a shadow shade...
[11:23] <sakrecoer_> in xfce4-pannel, its only the indicator plugin that gives the grey frame.
[14:08] <OvenWerk1> zequence: yes, I will add them all. I have to find out how many there are first as zita-ajbridge does not have a "useall" option.
[14:10] <OvenWerk1> sakrecoer_: While I am sure the grey frame will get "fixed" in gedit, I am not so sure it will look like it belongs as it wants to draw it's own window decorations that are different from the rest.
[14:41] <OvenWerk1> zequence: I think I also need to be able to add interfaces to ignore: IGNORE=CAMERA AudioPCI,1
[14:42] <OvenWerk1> For example. (hw:AudioPCI,1 happens to block the input for AudioPCI,0)
[14:44] <OvenWerk1> ... not that very many people have those any more, I would actually block both because my purpose for the card is the MIDI port.
[15:12] <sakrecoer_> OvenWerk1: yeah... i struggled to understand what was missing at first. i think it looks good, but i don't think it is very clever of the gedit devs to do it like that...
[18:24] <OvenWerk1> sakrecoer_: it looks good if everything else looks the same. In times gone by it was always a problem that kde apps looked very different from Gnome apps and older apps are different again.
[18:25] <OvenWerk1> sakrecoer_: so there was an effort to make things so they could be somewhat unified.
[18:25] <OvenWerk1> That seems to be going out the door again.
[18:30] <OvenWerk1> sakrecoer_: take a look at xfig for what I mean by old :)
[18:30] * OvenWerk1 still uses xfig from time to time.
[23:46] <Accidentalmeme> Hello
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.388514
| 2015-11-26T00:00:00 |
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"Accidentalmeme",
"OvenWerk1",
"sakrecoer_",
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"channel": "#ubuntustudio-devel"
}
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-us-fl
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[19:25] <ahoneybun> mhall119: ping
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.390122
| 2015-11-26T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"ahoneybun"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-us-fl"
}
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2015-11-26-#juju-dev
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[00:07] <menn0> davecheney: 62097950d4677fb8ef6c9c83e3d7555eebf2c653 means that the tests in cmd/jujud/agent now don't run at all
[00:07] <davecheney> oops
[00:07] <davecheney> will fix
[00:07] <menn0> davecheney: package_test.go is in the agent_test package but all the tests are in the "agent" package
[00:08] <menn0> davecheney: thanks
[00:08] <davecheney> well, that was unexpected
[00:08] <davecheney> i'll fix asap
[00:09] <menn0> davecheney: i'm currently ripping out the upgrade_test.go tests, which is why I noticed
[00:10] <davecheney> menn0: hmm
[00:10] <davecheney> tests run on my machine
[00:10] <davecheney> the way gocheck tests work
[00:10] <davecheney> i think i got away with it
[00:10] <davecheney> but it's inconsistent and i'll fix it
[00:11] <menn0> davecheney: if I run "go test ./cmd/jujud/agent -gocheck.f UpgradeSuite" the UpgradeSuite tests don't run but they used to before
[00:12] <davecheney> got it
[00:12] <davecheney> fix coming asap
[00:12] <menn0> thanks
[00:14] <davecheney> menn0: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/3828
[00:17] <menn0> davecheney: ship it, with commentary
[00:18] <davecheney> lucky(~/src/github.com/juju/juju/cmd/jujud/agent) % go test -v
[00:18] <davecheney> [00:18] <davecheney> OK: 107 passed, 3 skipped
[00:18] <davecheney> --- PASS: TestPackage (175.62s)
[00:18] <davecheney> PASS
[00:18] <davecheney> ok github.com/juju/juju/cmd/jujud/agent 175.672s
[00:18] <davecheney> lucky(~/src/github.com/juju/juju/cmd/jujud/agent) % go test -v
[00:19] <davecheney> [00:19] <davecheney> OK: 107 passed, 3 skipped
[00:19] <davecheney> --- PASS: TestPackage (173.66s)
[00:19] <davecheney> PASS
[00:19] <davecheney> ok github.com/juju/juju/cmd/jujud/agent 173.710s
[00:19] <davecheney> before vs after
[00:19] <davecheney> not seeing a difference in test runs
[00:19] <davecheney> how many tests do you see ?
[00:21] <davecheney> menn0: ^^
[00:22] <menn0> 0
[00:23] <menn0> but I wasn't in the same directory
[00:23] <davecheney> ok
[00:23] <menn0> I did "go test -v ./cmd/jujud/agent -gocheck.v"
[00:25] <davecheney> i don't really understand how that matters
[00:25] <davecheney> gocheck is a singleton
[00:25] <davecheney> so all the tests are registered during init
[00:25] <davecheney> then something has to hook them up
[00:25] <davecheney> anyway
[00:25] <davecheney> it's fixed
[00:26] <menn0> NFI
[00:26] <menn0> davecheney: thank you
[00:26] <davecheney> zero ducks
[00:52] <davecheney> axw: you're on call review today? https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/3829
[00:52] <axw> davecheney: yup. looking
[00:54] <axw> davecheney: LGTM
[01:06] <thumper> bah humbug
[01:06] * thumper wants sinzui
[01:06] <davecheney> don't we all
[01:15] <thumper> uggerbay
[01:15] <thumper> I've worked out why my call fails...
[01:15] <thumper> kinda
[01:16] <thumper> what I'm not sure about is how it passed before
[01:20] <davecheney> axw: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/3830
[02:16] <thumper> oh FFS
[02:17] <thumper> wallyworld: got a minute to talk about a bug?
[02:17] <wallyworld> sure
[02:17] <thumper> 1:1 hangout
[02:41] <thumper> davecheney, menn0, mwhudson, waigani: going to have to skip the standup tomorrow morning as I'm ferrying kids down to the university for a school trip
[02:41] <thumper> will work from the library down there for the moring
[02:41] <thumper> morning
[02:46] <davecheney> mkay
[02:46] <menn0> thumper: ok cool
[02:47] <waigani> thumper: I might see you there if marsh centre is closed
[02:48] <thumper> waigani: kk
[02:52] <mup> Bug #1519995 changed: Upgrades from 1.20.11 to 1.25.2 fail because of status <blocker> <ci> <regression> <status> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Invalid> <juju-core 1.25:In Progress by thumper> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519995>
[02:55] <mup> Bug #1519995 opened: Upgrades from 1.20.11 to 1.25.2 fail because of status <blocker> <ci> <regression> <status> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Invalid> <juju-core 1.25:In Progress by thumper> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519995>
[02:58] <mup> Bug #1519995 changed: Upgrades from 1.20.11 to 1.25.2 fail because of status <blocker> <ci> <regression> <status> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Invalid> <juju-core 1.25:In Progress by thumper> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519995>
[03:01] <mup> Bug #1519403 changed: 1.24 upgrade does not set environ-uuid <juju-core:Won't Fix by thumper> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519403>
[03:04] <mup> Bug #1519403 opened: 1.24 upgrade does not set environ-uuid <juju-core:Won't Fix by thumper> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519403>
[03:07] <mup> Bug #1519403 changed: 1.24 upgrade does not set environ-uuid <juju-core:Won't Fix by thumper> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519403>
[03:10] <mup> Bug #1519403 opened: 1.24 upgrade does not set environ-uuid <juju-core:Won't Fix by thumper> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519403>
[03:12] <thumper> wow mup is confused
[03:16] <mup> Bug #1519403 changed: 1.24 upgrade does not set environ-uuid <juju-core:Won't Fix by thumper> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519403>
[03:19] <mup> Bug #1519403 opened: 1.24 upgrade does not set environ-uuid <juju-core:Won't Fix by thumper> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519403>
[03:22] <mup> Bug #1519403 changed: 1.24 upgrade does not set environ-uuid <juju-core:Won't Fix by thumper> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519403>
[03:47] <axw> thumper: do you think it would be reasonable to reject upgrading to 2.0 if the env has no UUID?
[03:48] <axw> thumper: ... or is there always a UUID now?
[03:48] <thumper> axw: ummm.... can you explain more?
[03:48] <thumper> you mean cached locally?
[03:48] <axw> thumper: in environs/config there's a "ok bool" on UUID that says if the config has a UUID or not
[03:48] <thumper> ah...
[03:48] <thumper> ok
[03:48] <axw> thumper: is it only the client that might not have one?
[03:48] <thumper> config that comes from the environments.yaml will not have a UUID
[03:49] <thumper> it is expected that all servers will have one
[03:49] <thumper> as of 1.20, it is cached in response to API connections
[03:50] <thumper> as of 1.24 or 1.25, it is written to the cache as part of bootstrap rather than the first connect after bootstrap
[03:50] <axw> thumper: ok, cool. it would be nice if 99% of callers didn't have to use the (UUID, bool) call
[03:50] <thumper> agreed
[03:50] <thumper> as of 2.0, there is no environments.yaml
[03:50] <axw> leading to confusing me :)
[03:51] <thumper> so this should no longer be an issue
[03:51] <thumper> more cleanup
[03:51] <axw> thumper: excellent
[03:51] <axw> thanks
[03:51] <thumper> np
[03:57] <wallyworld> axw: we do need to pass the series to the backend. if the user overrides the series, we can't put that into the charm url and just pass that as we do now, because the modified charm url will not be resolvable in the store as it doesn't exist
[03:57] <wallyworld> so we need to record the true charm url and user specified series separately
[03:58] <wallyworld> this applies when the user forces a series not supported by the charm
[03:58] <axw> wallyworld: why do we resolve the URL in the backend?
[03:58] <axw> wallyworld: or try to fetch it on the backend
[03:58] <wallyworld> i'd have to check the code again but we do
[03:58] <wallyworld> we call repo.Resolve() server side
[03:59] <wallyworld> to add the charm to state
[03:59] <wallyworld> from emmory
[03:59] <axw> wallyworld: ok
[03:59] <wallyworld> axw: i had the same thought as you originally but ran into these issues
[03:59] <wallyworld> when i tested live with series override
[04:09] <axw> wallyworld: what exactly is hte issue with revision in the URL? you've taken out the revision in the bundle tests, but surely we still need to be able to specify revision somehow
[04:10] <wallyworld> axw: you can only specify revision if a series is in the url, so name-42 is not allowed but trusty/name-42 is. these changes are upstream charmstore changes
[04:10] <wallyworld> since in a multi-series world they reckon name-42 is ambiguous
[04:10] <wallyworld> not sure i agree tbh
[04:11] <axw> wallyworld: yeah, likewise. in any case, you removed revision from trusty/wordpress and wordpress both
[04:11] <wallyworld> works either way, i can add it back to the trusty case
[04:11] <wallyworld> must have been a typo
[04:30] <axw> wallyworld: for a new charm with series in metadata, can you resolve a URL with series if the series is supported?
[04:30] <wallyworld> yes
[04:31] <axw> wallyworld: ok, good. so it's just unsupported series that you can't resolve. makes sense
[04:31] <wallyworld> yep
[04:49] <davecheney> wallyworld: axw mgz can someone trigger a run of this job please http://juju-ci.vapour.ws:8080/job/run-unit-tests-race/
[04:49] <axw> davecheney: sure, if I can work out how
[04:50] <wallyworld> davecheney: what revision_build?
[04:50] <axw> was about to ask
[04:51] <wallyworld> i'm not sure what to type in there
[04:51] <davecheney> wallyworld: axw
[04:51] <davecheney> i have no idea
[04:51] <davecheney> its supposed to be automatic
[04:51] <davecheney> i've tried feeding it a revisoin and it barfs
[04:51] <axw> davecheney: I think it's dependent on the build-revision job, which hasn't run for ToT yet
[04:51] <davecheney> there is some extrenal process that kicks off the job
[04:51] <davecheney> but i don't know what it is
[04:51] <davecheney> tot ?
[04:52] <axw> top of tree
[04:52] <axw> sorry
[04:52] <davecheney> worst alias for master, ever
[04:52] <axw> yes, that one
[04:52] <axw> working in LLVM has messed with my brain
[04:53] <davecheney> seek professional counciling
[04:53] <davecheney> is it possible to bump the build-revision job ?
[04:53] <davecheney> oh, my other gripe about the race job
[04:53] <davecheney> if you stop the job
[04:54] <davecheney> becuase it's testing a branch that you know won't pass
[04:54] <davecheney> something resubmits that job
[04:54] <axw> davecheney: trying a new build-revision now
[04:54] <davecheney> thanks!
[05:03] <axw> davecheney: race job is running now
[06:14] <wallyworld> axw: lts and model series are validated now
[06:15] <axw> wallyworld: ta, looking
[06:38] <wallyworld> thanks axw, have to wait to land after charmstore is cut over
[08:13] <mup> Bug #1519527 changed: MAAS 1.9b2+ with juju 1.25.1: lxc units all have the same IP address <openstack> <sts> <uosci> <MAAS:Triaged by mpontillo> <MAAS 1.9:Triaged by mpontillo> <MAAS trunk:Triaged by mpontillo> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519527>
[09:16] <frobware> dimitern_, ping
[09:17] <dimitern_> frobware, pong
[09:19] <voidspace> dooferlad: just to let you know I'm blocked on the fixed range stuff
[09:20] <dooferlad> voidspace: OK, I should be on that soon.
[09:20] <dooferlad> voidspace: just juggling multiple tasks :-(
[10:00] <dimitern_> voidspace, jam, fwereade, standup?
[10:03] <voidspace> dimitern: omw
[10:11] <dooferlad> frobware: if you are trying to hangout in Firefox and having sound problems then try Chrome - I had a similar issue.
[10:36] <axw> dooferlad: sorry, I brainfarted - of course it should be possible for the keepalive goroutine to be reentered. re-reviewing that bit now
[10:36] <dooferlad> axw: no problem
[10:36] <dooferlad> axw: thanks for taking another look.
[10:37] <frobware> dooferlad, voidspace, dimitern: looks like most folks have either declined or maybe'd the OS call today - I propose we cancel unless there are some agenda items
[10:38] <dooferlad> frobware: +1
[10:39] <dimitern> frobware, sgtm
[10:46] <dooferlad> voidspace: AddFixedAddressRange change just pushed
[10:46] <dooferlad> voidspace: making SetNodeNetworkLink nicer now.
[10:52] <dooferlad> voidspace: and now the SetNodeNetworkLink update you asked for is done.
[11:45] <voidspace> dooferlad: awesome, thanks
[11:52] <voidspace> dooferlad: hmmm... setting the range with the new api doesn't *seem* to work
[11:52] <voidspace> dooferlad: digging in (will check the test code to see if I'm doing it right)
[11:52] <dooferlad> var ar AddressRange
[11:52] <dooferlad> ar.Start = "192.168.1.100"
[11:52] <dooferlad> ar.End = "192.168.1.200"
[11:52] <dooferlad> ar.Purpose = []string{"dynamic"}
[11:52] <dooferlad> ts.AddFixedAddressRange(subnet.ID, ar)
[11:52] <voidspace> dooferlad: and also I still get nil back instead of an empty array when there are no ranges
[11:52] <dooferlad> where ts is the test server
[11:52] <voidspace> dooferlad: suite.testMAASObject.TestServer
[11:53] <voidspace> oh
[11:53] <voidspace> misunderstood
[11:53] <voidspace> dooferlad: that's *exactly* what I'm doing
[11:53] <voidspace> and reserved_ip_ranges for that subnet returns null
[11:54] <dooferlad> voidspace: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13513986/ is my little live test server
[11:55] <dooferlad> Clearly you need to have something to run it...
[11:55] <dooferlad> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13513993/ for example
[11:56] <dooferlad> from http://localhost:6776/api/1.0/subnets/1/?op=reserved_ip_ranges I get http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13513997/
[11:57] <voidspace> dooferlad: try it without the call to NewIPAddress
[11:57] <voidspace> I have a hunch
[11:57] <voidspace> still hacking my code to try it
[11:57] <dooferlad> voidspace: good hunch
[11:57] <voidspace> dooferlad: early short circuit in your code
[11:58] <voidspace> dooferlad: ok, so my code now runs
[11:58] <voidspace> dooferlad: however the tests pass, which is bad - they should fail because now the allocatable range should be different
[11:58] <voidspace> dooferlad: but that's probably a bug in my code :-)
[11:59] <voidspace> dooferlad: I can remove the adding of the extra IPAddress once that's fixed
[12:00] <dooferlad> voidspace: fixed and pushed.
[12:00] <voidspace> dooferlad: that was quick :-)
[12:03] <dooferlad> voidspace: oh hang on. Fscked up. Wrong repo.
[12:03] <dooferlad> voidspace: try now
[12:04] <voidspace> dooferlad: I have a suspicion my Purpose may be being overwritten
[12:04] <voidspace> that may not be true
[12:05] <voidspace> but I'm not seeing the range with the right Purpose yet
[12:06] <voidspace> dooferlad: hah no, typo in my code
[12:13] <voidspace> dooferlad: and it's found another bug in my code :-)
[12:14] <voidspace> I was using net.IP(..) not net.ParseIP(...)
[12:14] <dooferlad> voidspace: success!
[12:14] <voidspace> dooferlad: and now it's done
[12:14] <voidspace> dooferlad: yep, mine is ready to land
[12:14] <voidspace> dooferlad: (or at least ready for review)
[12:14] <voidspace> dooferlad: is your branch proposed?
[12:14] <dooferlad> voidspace: sweet! I will propose my branch now.
[12:16] <dooferlad> voidspace: https://code.launchpad.net/~dooferlad/gomaasapi/subnets/+merge/278342
[12:16] <voidspace> dooferlad: great
[12:18] <voidspace> dimitern: frobware: dooferlad: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3252/
[12:19] <dimitern> voidspace, looking
[12:32] <mup> Bug #1520199 opened: provider/maas: better handling of devices claim-sticky-ip-address failures and absence of reserved IP address <kanban-cross-team> <maas-provider> <reliability> <tech-debt> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.25:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520199>
[12:34] <frobware> voidspace, looking
[13:04] <mattyw> is anyone around today?
[13:07] <dimitern> voidspace, reviewed
[13:30] <voidspace> dimitern: thanks
[13:31] <voidspace> dimitern: I didn't make dummy provider configurable because it's not needed as part of this PR
[13:31] <voidspace> dimitern: it can be made configurable when it's needed
[13:32] <voidspace> dimitern: and I don't think you're right about the space name transforming code
[13:32] <voidspace> dimitern: we store juju name and provider name and we need to be able to convert between them
[13:33] <voidspace> dimitern: so it shouldn't return an error
[13:34] <voidspace> dimitern: and yet again I disagree with your comments about nesting structs in tests
[13:34] <voidspace> dimitern: I think it makes them much harder to read
[13:34] <voidspace> dimitern: whitespace is good!
[13:36] <dimitern> voidspace, too much whitespace can kill you know :D
[13:36] <voidspace> dimitern: that's propaganda, there are no known cases
[13:36] <voidspace> dimitern: I think collapsing them will make them uglier
[13:37] <dimitern> voidspace, I disagree about the space names not needing to validate the juju name
[13:37] <voidspace> dimitern: I can wrap them in a helper as per one of your other sessions
[13:37] <voidspace> dimitern: we do validate - that's what my code does
[13:37] <voidspace> dimitern: it transforms into a valid namme
[13:37] <voidspace> dimitern: so it can't return an error
[13:37] <dimitern> voidspace, how about tests where you get a space
[13:37] <dimitern> voidspace, like "#$^#$^" from maas?
[13:38] <voidspace> dimitern: what do you want to do with them?
[13:38] <voidspace> dimitern: we haven't defined that behaviour yet - so just changing the name of the existing function won't help that case
[13:38] <dimitern> voidspace, report an error, rather than pass it happily back to the apiserver and fail on import
[13:39] <voidspace> dimitern: what error?
[13:39] <voidspace> dimitern: you haven't defined the error cases
[13:39] <voidspace> dimitern: and we *still* need a transform
[13:39] <voidspace> dimitern: why shouldn't we use #$^ as a space name
[13:39] <dimitern> voidspace, ok, can we then at least replace not just " " -> "-", but also any invalid chars for a juju space name to "_"
[13:40] <dimitern> voidspace, because that would be unusable in constraints or anywhere pretty much
[13:40] <voidspace> dimitern: where are the valid characters defined
[13:41] <voidspace> dimitern: can't you use strings for constraints - no escaping?
[13:41] <dimitern> voidspace, check names.IsValidSpace
[13:41] <voidspace> (as in use quotes)
[13:41] <voidspace> dimitern: ok, thanks
[13:41] <voidspace> dimitern: I still think you need therapy for your anti-whitespace prejudice
[13:42] <voidspace> dimitern: I good course of Python should help
[13:43] <dimitern> voidspace, I like whitespace, in general, but having 3 levels of mostly empty lines (except for "{") nested moves the EOL too much for my taste when reading the code, but I guess that's just me
[13:45] <dimitern> voidspace, and the same goes for too long lines that can be wrapped nicely, instead of arbitrarily according to various editor settings
[13:45] <voidspace> dimitern: well, the edit you're suggesting would result in *massively* long and completely unreadable lines
[13:45] <voidspace> whereas as it is I can just glance at it and understand it
[13:46] <voidspace> the whitespace shows up the structure as well as making the contents easier to read (single member per line)
[13:46] <dimitern> voidspace, with the risk of wasting a couple more minutes on an issue with hardly any consequence, what's unreadable?
[13:46] <voidspace> so I genuinely disagree and don't see the problem
[13:46] <voidspace> collapsing all the whitespace into a single line
[13:46] <voidspace> as you suggest
[13:47] <voidspace> []network.SpaceInfo{{ .. }, { .. }}
[13:47] <voidspace> that would be one line of about three hundred chars
[13:47] <voidspace> or more
[13:47] <voidspace> 800 maybe
[13:48] <voidspace> and just breaking the line, instead of using whitespace for structure, means you have to pick along it to work out where members are
[13:48] <voidspace> there's a reason that all json pretty printers use whitespace to show structure
[13:48] <voidspace> because it makes data structures easy to read
[13:48] <dimitern> voidspace, I'm not saying use v := []map[string]string{map[string]string{"foo":"bar","one":"two"},map[string]string{"bar":"baz", "four":"five"}}
[13:48] <voidspace> it makes the vertically verbose but easy to scan
[13:48] <voidspace> dimitern: well, that's *specifically* what you say
[13:49] <dimitern> voidspace, I'm not saying use v := []map[string]string{ \n \t map[string]string{"foo":"bar","one":"two"}, \n \t map[string]string{"bar":"baz", "four":"five"}}\n
[13:50] <voidspace> dimitern: I still think the SubnetInfo as single lines would be too long and harder to read
[13:50] <dimitern> voidspace, oops anyway - I meant multi-line, but some braces together on the same line, rather than having "{\n" followed by "{\n" etc
[13:50] <voidspace> dimitern: ok, I'll see how that looks
[13:50] <voidspace> that maybe fine to me and would lose a level of indentation
[13:51] <voidspace> fair enough
[13:51] <dimitern> I should've pasted a formatted snippet rather than being lazy and trying to express what I meant on one line
[13:51] <voidspace> :-)
[14:05] <mup> Bug #1520247 opened: TestContainerProvisionerStarted fails due to unknown container type: lxd <ci> <lxd> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520247>
[14:34] <mgz_> version bump review please: http:..reviews.vapour.ws/r/3254/
[15:10] <mgz_> non-americans, rally to the cause! plzreviewplz
[15:41] <frobware> mgz_, done
[15:44] <voidspace> dimitern: I totally misunderstood!
[15:45] <voidspace> dimitern: where you said "please call IsValidSpace" I misread it as "please call the function" (i.e. rename) IsValidSpace
[15:45] <voidspace> dimitern: I agree with you :-)
[15:45] <mgz_> frobware: merci
[15:46] <mgz_> we may actually not do a 1.26-alpha3 - but I also don't want to handle a major version bump in the code right now
[15:54] <mup> Bug # changed: 1261780, 1493602, 1496652, 1499277, 1511135, 1513236, 1515736, 1517344
[15:54] <mup> Bug #1520292 opened: Upgrade from 1.21.3 -> 1.22.8 -> 1.23.3 fails with 'ERROR a hosted environment cannot have a higher version than the server environment: 1.23.3.5 > 1.22.8.1' <sts> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520292>
[15:59] <dimitern> voidspace, oh :)
[16:00] <voidspace> dimitern: yeah, oops...
[16:00] <dimitern> voidspace, no worries
[16:10] <mgz_> I think we need a basic-of-git session in a couple of weeks
[16:25] <voidspace> dimitern: ping
[16:26] <voidspace> dimitern: so we have to decide what to do with invalid space names
[16:26] <voidspace> dimitern: do you think that converting invalid chars to "_" is the right thing to do?
[16:27] <voidspace> dimitern: if we error out instead we either have Spaces/Subnets return an error when they encounter an invalid space name
[16:27] <voidspace> dimitern: which would mean you can't use *any* spaces or subnets if one of the space names is invalid
[16:27] <voidspace> dimitern: or we just drop the invalid space and its subnets
[16:28] <voidspace> dimitern: but if we do multiple character substitutions we risk name clashes (two different MAAS spaces being seen as the same juju space)
[16:29] <dimitern> voidspace, I think we need to be consistent
[16:30] <voidspace> dimitern: we need to eat too
[16:30] <voidspace> dimitern: but that doesn't answer the question either... ;-)
[16:30] <dimitern> voidspace, sorry, typing still..
[16:30] <voidspace> I agree we *must* be consistent
[16:30] <voidspace> I'm only teasing
[16:31] <dimitern> voidspace, if a maas space name cannot be converted to a valid juju space name, we can use a generated name or ask user to provide one
[16:31] <voidspace> dimitern: how can we ask the user to provide one?
[16:31] <dimitern> voidspace, or both (i.e. use a generated-but-valid when importing, and allow the user to rename it)
[16:32] <dimitern> voidspace, if we added them manually, that wouldn't be an issue, as we ask for a name anyway
[16:32] <voidspace> dimitern: right
[16:33] <dimitern> voidspace, but the problem is with auto importing
[16:33] <voidspace> dimitern: however, the provider has no access to state - so that will have to happen a layer above the provider
[16:33] <voidspace> dimitern: I'm almost tempted to remove SpaceName from SpaceInfo and SubnetInfo and only use ProviderSpaceId
[16:33] <dimitern> voidspace, yeah - so doesn't that imply we shouldn't try to convert them in the provider ?:)
[16:33] <voidspace> and let the conversion happen elsewhere
[16:33] <voidspace> right
[16:33] <dimitern> voidspace, that sounds better than inventing names
[16:34] <voidspace> dimitern: well, it doesn't avoid the problem - just moves it...
[16:34] <voidspace> but moving it out of *my* code is fine
[16:34] <voidspace> ;-)
[16:34] <dimitern> voidspace, well, we should talk to the provider with names/ids it understands
[16:34] <voidspace> dimitern: yep
[16:34] <dimitern> voidspace, but the translation needs to happen in the apiserver I think
[16:34] <voidspace> dimitern: I'll leave SpaceName on SpaceInfo but remove it from SubnetInfo
[16:35] <voidspace> agreed
[16:35] <dimitern> voidspace, we do have a similar case already - with relation tags
[16:35] <voidspace> ah right
[16:35] <dimitern> voidspace, since "relation-#" is the tag format but can't be converted to the other form "svc1:rel1 svc2:rel2", there's an api call to do that
[16:37] <dimitern> voidspace, I had a similar issue to solve with subnetsToZones - so the provisioner apiserver facade does the translation between juju id (cidr) and provider subnet id
[16:38] <dimitern> before calling start instance
[16:56] <fwereade> if anyone feels like punishing themselves, http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3255/ is another monster :-/
[16:57] <fwereade> but it has a number of pleasing features, and a *lot* of it is moves/renames that both GH and RB are getting confused by
[17:03] <mup> Bug #1520314 opened: Environment not usable after upgrade from 1.21.3 -> 1.25.0 fails with '"cannot retrieve meter status for unit xxx/0: not found"' <sts> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520314>
[18:27] <voidspace> dimitern: ping
[18:30] <voidspace> dimitern: does MAAS support ipv6 subnets?
[18:33] <voidspace> dimitern: looks like it does, but you can only have one ipv6 subnet per interface
[18:33] <voidspace> dimitern: https://maas.ubuntu.com/docs/ipv6.html
[19:15] <frobware> voidspace, part me says land something with ipv4, then we can look at ipv6. thoughts?
[19:38] <voidspace> frobware: yeah, that's maybe good enough for now
[19:38] <voidspace> frobware: ipv6 needs careful thinking about
[19:38] <voidspace> frobware: in which case, it's done
[19:38] <voidspace> that was the last issue
[20:33] <thumper> morning team
[20:33] <thumper> I'm going to be looking into the instance poller and presense code today
[20:33] <thumper> as it appears to not be working, and will impact the HA ability
[20:33] <thumper> what I observed yesterday on EC2 with 1.25 was a working HA system, up until I took down machine-0
[20:34] <thumper> The machine was never shown as missing, and all the calls around HA, rsyslog worker etc that need the addresses of the state servers kept saying that machine-0 was good
[20:34] <thumper> and the workers would die because they couldn't connect to it
[20:35] <thumper> this also stopped all logs flowing from all machines as the rsyslog worker kept restarting
[20:35] <thumper> so, I'm going to check the logging that I can ratchet up for instance polling and presense, possibly add some extra, and try to reproduce
[21:05] * thumper headdesks
[21:07] <thumper> oh FFS
[21:08] <thumper> the instance poller worker takes the "instance not found" error, and logs a warning, then returns nil for the error
[21:08] <thumper> it's all good
[21:30] <mgz_> heya thumper
[21:30] <thumper> o/ mgz_
[21:36] <davechen1y> thumper: kill.it.with.fire
[21:45] <mgz_> menn0: when you have a chance, can you look over bug 1520314?
[21:45] <mup> Bug #1520314: Environment not usable after upgrade from 1.21.3 -> 1.25.0 fails with '"cannot retrieve meter status for unit xxx/0: not found"' <sts> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520314>
[22:08] <menn0> mgz_: will take a look soon
[22:13] <thumper> :(
[22:14] <thumper> that's how I feel reading this code
[22:14] <thumper> ugh
[22:15] <thumper> I have a very strong suspicition that this code may deadlock an agent coming down in some situations
[22:15] <thumper> because naken channel writes and reads are fine right?
[22:15] <thumper> no problem there
[22:21] * thumper has to close up and go and move some kids
[22:21] <thumper> bbs
[22:27] <mup> Bug #1520373 opened: stopped instance in EC2 always considered "started" <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520373>
[22:47] <menn0> mgz_: you still around?
[22:51] <mgz_> menn0: yo
[22:52] <menn0> mgz_: looking at bug 1520314, your big comment implies you tried the upgrades yourself. is that right?
[22:52] <mup> Bug #1520314: Environment not usable after upgrade from 1.21.3 -> 1.25.0 fails with '"cannot retrieve meter status for unit xxx/0: not found"' <sts> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Triaged by menno.smits> <juju-core 1.25:In Progress by menno.smits> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520314>
[22:52] <menn0> or were you just looking at the logs?
[22:52] <mgz_> menn0: no, I read the logs
[22:52] <menn0> ok right
[22:53] <menn0> mgz_: do you know who the env was being deployed/
[22:53] <menn0> ?
[22:53] <mgz_> niedbalski tried to repo, but hit some other 1.23 weirdness in bug 1520292
[22:53] <mup> Bug #1520292: Upgrade from 1.21.3 -> 1.22.8 -> 1.23.3 fails with 'ERROR a hosted environment cannot have a higher version than the server environment: 1.23.3.5 > 1.22.8.1' <bug-squad> <sts> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520292>
[22:53] <mgz_> menn0: dtag
[22:54] <menn0> mgz_: sorry, I meant "how" not "who"
[22:55] <mgz_> would have been deployer, in stages
[22:55] <menn0> mgz_: do I have access to that and are there any instructions you know of?
[22:56] <mgz_> no, reproducing the deployments we do on site is kind of an ongoing pain
[22:57] <mgz_> I have a google doc for dtag overall, not sure if it's the same steps we're looking at here though
[22:57] <menn0> ok fair enough
[22:57] * menn0 digs
[22:58] <mgz_> I emailed you a link.
[22:58] <menn0> mgz_: thanks
[23:01] <thumper> mgz_: that bug 1520292 above, the only way that could occur is if there is juju 1.25 in the mix somehow
[23:01] <mup> Bug #1520292: Upgrade from 1.21.3 -> 1.22.8 -> 1.23.3 fails with 'ERROR a hosted environment cannot have a higher version than the server environment: 1.23.3.5 > 1.22.8.1' <bug-squad> <sts> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520292>
[23:01] <thumper> that error doesn't exist in the codebase before 1.25
[23:01] <mgz_> thumper: my assumption is the staged upgrade was continued, but it was in the borked-1.23 status
[23:02] <mgz_> so, we had agents on all different versions muddled up
[23:02] <thumper> I'm prepared to say won't fix for anything that goes through a 1.23 version
[23:02] <thumper> that was so full of ail
[23:02] <thumper> fail
[23:03] <mgz_> we don't seem to have communicated that well, even to the guys we have deploying stuff for customers
[23:03] <mgz_> (I agree, it's what I said in the bugs)
[23:05] <menn0> mgz_, thumper : we should get 1.23 out of the public streams
[23:05] <thumper> aye
[23:05] <menn0> there really is no reason to let anyone use it
[23:05] <mgz_> I was thinking about that, does it screw up existing deployments at all?
[23:07] <mgz_> we're already sticking tools in mongo in 1.23, are there any circumstances we go back to streams for the current tools version?
[23:08] <mgz_> the original promise was we never remove anything from streams once added.
[23:09] <menn0> mgz_: I guess it needs some thought by various people
[23:09] <mgz_> if only we were getting the relevent people in the same place some time soon
[23:11] <menn0> mgz_: shall we get it on the agenda then?
[23:12] <mgz_> :)
[23:17] <wallyworld> anastasiamac: standup?
[23:49] <davechen1y> thumper: i can apply the same methodology using build tags to exclude failing packages from building with go > 1.2 ?
[23:49] <davechen1y> s/building/testing
[23:49] <davechen1y> and get wily and xenial passing
[23:49] <davechen1y> then voting
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[07:19] <marcus> WaVeR, yes of course
[11:19] <marcus> WaVeR, I have pimped the page a bit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwissTeam/ReVerificationApplication2015
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[08:04] <dholbach> good morning
[09:46] <tvoss> mardy, mind giving https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/678 a spin
[09:47] <mardy> tvoss: on it!
[09:47] <tvoss> mardy, thx
[10:12] <mardy> tvoss: damn, I cannot open the HERE apps if I'm in flight mode :-)
[10:12] <tvoss> mardy, oh yeah, I see :)
[10:12] <tvoss> mardy, you probably want to try the simple example client from location service then
[10:12] <mardy> tvoss: I guess OSMtouch is good enough
[10:12] <tvoss> mardy, yeah, should do the job
[10:19] <ogra_`> hmpf
[10:19] <ogra_`> after todays update my scopes dont have any images anymore
[10:20] * ogra_` reloaded ten times already but nothing chaanges
[10:20] <robin-hero> Hey, is there a bug report for this: I set up an event in the calendar and indicator-datetime shows this in UTC, instead of the correct time?
[10:23] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Thursday and happy Cake Day! 😃 http://goo.gl/oKyw2t
[10:29] <mardy> tvoss: mmm... it works a bit too well
[10:29] <tvoss> mardy, ?
[10:29] <mardy> tvoss: the position keeps being updated apparently
[10:29] <mardy> tvoss: isn't the GPS switched off, when we enter flight mode?
[10:29] <tvoss> mardy, hmmm, maybe not
[10:29] <tvoss> morphis, ^
[10:30] <tvoss> morphis, do you know if urfkill disables the gps?
[10:30] <tvoss> morphis, would be kinda pointless as a gps receiver is not emitting any signal, but not sure about regulations
[10:30] <mardy> tvoss: what's the name of the location command line client? Just want to make sure that OSMtouch is not messing up
[10:31] <davmor2> tvoss: not that I am aware of as I wrote a bug asking about it and was told it was not needed
[10:32] <tvoss> mardy, ^
[10:32] <tvoss> mardy, probably best to explicitly switch off gps then
[10:32] <davmor2> mardy, tvoss: you would lose the instant fix that you get from agps
[10:33] <tvoss> davmor2, that's a confusing statement :)
[10:34] <davmor2> tvoss: without cell and internet info agps would have no way to get an initial fix right, so you would be limited to gps only which can take a while to get a fix right
[10:34] <tvoss> davmor2, I get that, not sure what you are arguing for or against :)
[10:35] <davmor2> tvoss: no just a statement I thought it wasn't working for someone or something, not read the rest of the context :)
[10:35] <tvoss> davmor2, okay, that makes a little more sense then :)
[10:38] <morphis> tvoss: I know there is not specific urfkill for GPS
[10:38] <morphis> s/urfkill/rfkill/
[10:38] <morphis> but not sure what urfkill does for GPS
[10:39] <tvoss> morphis, I would be surprised if it ties in to the android gps layer
[10:40] <morphis> abeato: you know?
[10:40] <morphis> tvoss: I know urfkill has some hybris* stuff in it
[10:40] <morphis> but if I remember well that was only for WiFi
[10:41] <abeato> morphis, tvoss not really sure what urfkill does for gps, as morphis says it enables/disables wifi
[10:43] <davmor2> tvoss, morphis: Flight mode (urfkill) does wifi/telephony/bluetooth and nothing else as far as I am aware
[10:48] <tvoss> mpt, o/
[10:48] <mpt> \o
[10:48] <tvoss> mpt, updated trust prompt shot: http://pasteboard.co/2qgdLJ0R.png
[10:49] <mpt> tvoss, cool!
[10:49] <tvoss> mpt, the elliding of the name behaves as in the app scope, elliding of the app id ellides from the center to stay readable
[10:50] <mpt> tvoss, what do you think of making the id grey instead of putting it in brackets?
[10:51] <tvoss> mpt, that's fine with me, I selected the font size as small and replaced _ in the app id with / to make it a little more friendly
[10:51] <tvoss> what do you think?
[10:51] <tvoss> _ somewhat looks like "error"
[10:51] <mpt> agreed
[10:51] <seb128> tvoss, can you fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/trust-store/+bug/1382610 while you are changing that dialog? I can provide a patch if needed, but it's only switching the order of the buttons and changing a label
[10:51] <tvoss> seb128, sure
[10:51] <seb128> thanks
[10:51] <mpt> I was just going to say, yes
[10:52] <mpt> I didn’t know seb128 had reported a bug about it :-)
[10:52] <tvoss> mpt, http://pasteboard.co/2qguqwvi.png
[10:53] <tvoss> mpt, the description never elides, but wraps
[10:53] <mpt> “description” = “wants to access X”?
[10:54] <tvoss> mpt, yup
[10:57] <tvoss> mpt, http://pasteboard.co/2qgPK55k.png
[10:57] <tvoss> mpt, secondary text with UbuntuColors.lightGrey
[10:58] <tvoss> mpt, parenthesis removed
[10:59] <mpt> tvoss, great. Is now a good time to change “Deny” to “Don’t Allow” as well (as seb128 also mentioned in that bug report)? In my MP comment I forgot that detail for a moment.
[10:59] <tvoss> mpt, sure, it's a string change though, which has implications for translations
[10:59] <mpt> right, that’s what I mean by “a good time” :-)
[11:00] <tvoss> mpt, but we have to adjust the translations anyway, as the description is no longer in the format "%1% wants to access %2%"
[11:00] <tvoss> seb128, ^ what do you think?
[11:00] <seb128> tvoss, ota-8 just went out, translation freeze for ota-9 is not before a while
[11:00] * tvoss thinks having a watermark on the trust prompt would be really helpful
[11:00] <seb128> so +1
[11:01] <tvoss> seb128, ack
[11:01] <seb128> now seems like the perfect time to do it
[11:01] <tvoss> seb128, mpt mind filing a bug for the change?
[11:01] <seb128> what change?
[11:01] <seb128> the Deny -> Don't Allow?
[11:01] <tvoss> seb128, Deny -> Don't allow
[11:01] <tvoss> yup
[11:01] <seb128> I mentioned it on the bug you just assigned to yourself
[11:01] <seb128> the one about the buttons order
[11:01] <tvoss> ah okay
[11:01] <seb128> but I can open another one if you prefer
[11:02] <tvoss> seb128, ah no, that's fine with me
[11:02] <seb128> great
[11:02] <tvoss> mpt, it's "Don't Allow" with a capital "A", correct?
[11:02] <mpt> yep
[11:03] <mpt> tvoss, what do you mean by a watermark?
[11:04] <tvoss> mpt, so let's assume our oobe requests the user to specify a unique image (probably taken with the camera during the oobe wizard) that was only accessible to the trust-store
[11:04] <tvoss> mpt, if we had that, we could "mark" the trust prompt with the unique watermark image, thereby ensuring that it wasn't faked by an app
[11:04] <mpt> tvoss, ah, like I specced for the PolicyKit dialogs https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AccountPrivileges#icon
[11:06] <tvoss> mpt, something along those lines, yes
[11:06] <tvoss> mpt, are you fine with the eliding I described before?
[11:07] <mpt> tvoss, yep
[11:07] <tvoss> okay, cool
[11:08] <mpt> tvoss, actually, English has this weird thing where ellipsis at start/finish doesn’t have a space after/before it
[11:08] <mpt> tvoss, so in your screenshot it should be “long name for…”, not “long name for …”
[11:08] <tvoss> mpt, hmmm, you would have to talk the qml guys then, I'm just selecting a value from an enumeration
[11:08] <mpt> oh, ok
[11:09] <mardy> tvoss: what's the name of the location command line client? Just want to make sure that OSMtouch is not messing up
[11:09] <tvoss> mardy, oh sorry, let me find it :)
[11:10] <tvoss> mardy, package is *location-service*examples* :) executable should be in /usr/lib/{ARCH}/ubuntu-location-service/examples/client --bus system
[11:10] <tvoss> mardy, use tab for good measure to fix my typos :)
[11:11] <mardy> tvoss: thanks!
[11:14] <mardy> tvoss: yep, it works. I immediately get the same location, same timestamp
[11:15] <mardy> tvoss: if this has to go through QA, better change the steps to use this cli app, instead of here
[11:16] <tvoss> mardy, yup, mind adjusting the silo description?
[11:16] <tvoss> mardy, perfect
[11:17] <mardy> tvoss: sure
[14:05] <samsruti> Hi
[14:26] <shadeslayer> ogra_: hi, I was reverse engineering the scripts to build the ubuntu touch rootfs and came up with this so far http://paste.ubuntu.com/13514952/
[14:26] <ogra_> shadeslayer, apt-get source livecd-rootfs ?
[14:26] <shadeslayer> ogra_: but it doesn't seem to be particularly happy
[14:26] <shadeslayer> ogra_: why source?
[14:27] <shadeslayer> I just install the livecd-rootfs package
[14:27] <ogra_> did you try to use rootstock-ng instead ?
[14:27] <shadeslayer> I have not
[14:27] <ogra_> it does all the necessary wrapping needed for livecd-rootfs
[14:27] <shadeslayer> ogra_: log http://paste.ubuntu.com/13514963/
[14:27] <ogra_> (you need a stacked build chroot for it)
[14:27] <shadeslayer> ogra_: oh, but I need to modify some stuff like package-lists
[14:27] <ogra_> https://launchpad.net/project-rootstock-ng
[14:27] <shadeslayer> ( see http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/customizations.tar.gz )
[14:28] <shadeslayer> right, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/trusty-preinstalled-touch-armhf.tar.gz is something I need to modify then right, because rootstock-ng doesn't do that
[14:28] <ogra_> rootstock-touch is what you want ...
[14:29] <shadeslayer> oh
[14:29] <ogra_> it allows you to add PPAs
[14:29] <ogra_> (it hasnt been maintained since i stopped working on the phone so it might need some adjustments)
[14:29] <shadeslayer> ok
[14:30] <ogra_> so i guess you could set up a PPA and upload a modified metapackage to that to get your different package set
[14:30] <shadeslayer> ogra_: all of that's already setup, the meta package is called differently though
[14:30] <shadeslayer> and I'm mostly having issues with the live build hooks really
[14:31] <ogra_> well,. they are rather specific for the particular target indeed
[14:31] <shadeslayer> right, except they don't seem to work even with no modifications for me :)
[14:32] <shadeslayer> but seem to work just fine on launchpad
[14:32] <ogra_> why dont you just integrate it properly instead and get a system-image people can just switch to
[14:32] <shadeslayer> yeah, that'd be the correct way of doing it, yes
[14:33] <ogra_> (it could be a channel... then you can just switch channels with a single command on any ubuntu phone out there and our UI will just work )
[14:33] <tvoss> mpt, seb128 so what would be sensible behavior if we cannot find an icon?
[14:33] <ogra_> shadeslayer, well, i dont care about correct/incorrect ... but it would get you immediately a ton of devices out there without you having to care at all
[14:33] <shadeslayer> mmhm
[14:34] <ogra_> like ... every ubuntu phone
[14:34] * shadeslayer will poke someone
[14:34] <shadeslayer> ogra_: right
[14:34] <ogra_> sudo system-image-cli --switch=plasma-phone-channel ....
[14:34] <ogra_> ;)
[14:34] <mpt> tvoss, that question should be answered by the “give me the icon for this app” API that is also responsible for rounding the corners etc
[14:35] <mpt> tvoss, I’m guessing that API doesn’t currently exist? :-]
[14:35] <tvoss> mpt, well, that api shouldn't handle corner rounding at any rate :)
[14:35] <mpt> What should, then?
[14:35] <Elleo> sil2100: heya; having a bit of trouble getting silo 17 working after switching it to vivid only; changed a few of the MRs to new vivid specific ones but getting odd "not a branch" bzr errors show up, does it need cleaning again in some way? or am I doing something else wrong?
[14:35] <tvoss> mpt, well, the component responsible for actually rendering the icon obviously
[14:36] <tvoss> mpt, but that's a different question
[14:36] <ogra_> shadeslayer, in any case, i'd recommend using rootstock-touch to get the right build env setup
[14:36] <sil2100> Elleo: let me take a look, uno momento
[14:36] <ogra_> if you do it out of archive
[14:37] <mpt> tvoss, ok, so I should have said “component” rather than “API” … Anyway, I’d expect that component to display a placeholder of some sort if it still hasn’t loaded the real icon after ~1 second
[14:38] <shadeslayer> ogra_: ack, I'm looking into it
[14:38] <shadeslayer> and seeing what's blocking us from uploading to launchpad and using the livefs builds
[14:38] <tvoss> mpt, that's not how our ui framework operates. anyway: I will ask the u8 guys
[14:39] <Elleo> sil2100: thanks
[14:41] <mpt> tvoss, I’d expect it to be exactly the same placeholder regardless of whether it’s showing (or trying to show) an app icon in the Dash, in a System Settings screen, in a trust prompt, or anywhere else
[14:44] <shadeslayer> ogra_: I've been told that we would at the very least need a PPA with actual real arm hw
[14:44] <shadeslayer> because qemu'd builds won't cut it
[14:44] <shadeslayer> which is why we build the packages from our own CI at the moment
[14:44] <shadeslayer> ogra_: is there a way to make that happen?
[15:08] <popey> shadeslayer, you can request a real hardware armhf builder, but in launchpad I believe they're restricted (for security reasons) to Canonical employees only.
[15:09] <popey> shadeslayer, the other option being buy a few cheap chromebook / raspberry pi / beaglebone / odroid .. ;)
[15:10] <shadeslayer> popey: I have arm builders from my company, but then we can't leverage lp for the livefs builds ;)
[15:10] <popey> Right, bummer
[15:10] <k1l> iirc you can request PPAs to be build for arm too.
[15:10] <shadeslayer> qemu'd
[15:11] <shadeslayer> won't work for some of the KDE packages
[15:11] <k1l> ah ok
[15:11] * shadeslayer has a idea
[15:13] <sil2100> Elleo: still looking, but it looks like an internal issue, so not something you did wrong
[15:15] <Elleo> sil2100: okay, thanks
[15:16] <Elleo> sil2100: not sure if I might need to ask people for other MRs targetting their respective vivid branches as well now that it's vivid only?
[15:24] <shadeslayer> ogra_: isn't there a way to specify the ubuntu rootfs via ubuntu-device-flash :(
[15:24] <ogra_> nope
[15:24] <shadeslayer> damn :(
[15:25] <shadeslayer> I guess I can reuse the rootstock stuff to convert it into a image and fastboot flash that instead
[15:37] <sil2100> Elleo: hmmm, ok, silo building... I actually tried building with 'indicator-transfer' mentioned explicitly and it worked
[15:38] <sil2100> Elleo: I suppose it might be also a leftover from one of the transitions Robert was doing in the train, so not related even to your switch from dual to vivid
[15:38] <sil2100> Elleo: most probably once this finishes, there should be no further problems as I see it re-created the indicator-transfer directories
[15:49] <shadeslayer> ogra_: so, I ran rootstock-touch-install on a tarball I have, and then ... nothing
[15:50] <shadeslayer> do I have to reboot into recovery again?
[15:52] <ogra_> shadeslayer, there is a README, in the tree ...
[15:52] <ogra_> i'm not sure it still works ... as i said it has been unmaintained quite a while
[15:52] <ogra_> (the -install script)
[15:52] <shadeslayer> mhmm
[15:52] <ogra_> also it can only work on nexus devices ...
[15:53] <shadeslayer> ah
[15:53] <shadeslayer> I'm using a E5
[15:53] <shadeslayer> readme has a typo btw :P
[15:53] <shadeslayer> ./rootsotck-touch-install
[15:53] <ogra_> ah, yeah, the production phones use actual partitions where the nexus devices use loop mounted images
[15:54] <ogra_> (so the partitioning doesnt need to be changed on developer devices)
[15:54] <ogra_> the install script only handles the loop case
[15:54] <shadeslayer> okay, is it possible to manually untar the tarball onto the right partition then?
[15:55] <ogra_> you can try ;) no idea
[15:58] <shadeslayer> ogra_: oh and the custom tarball is unpacked ontop of the rootfs right?
[15:58] <ogra_> yeah ... but the bits use specific dirs iirc
[15:59] <shadeslayer> yeah :/
[15:59] <ogra_> ypou have to check the code
[16:00] <Elleo> sil2100: cool, thanks
[16:00] <Elleo> sil2100: erk, it's showing a similar error for ubuntu-system-settings now
[16:01] <Elleo> sil2100: do I just ask it to build ubuntu-system-settings on its own?
[16:01] <Elleo> sil2100: ah yeah, that seems to be working
[16:02] <sil2100> Elleo: yeah...
[16:02] <Elleo> sil2100: guess I might have to do that for the others too
[16:02] <sil2100> I think this might need repeating ;/
[16:02] <sil2100> It looks like a train bug to me
[16:02] <Elleo> sil2100: it's entirely possible it's something I messed up, as I've been adding and removing MRs a bit after the switch from dual to vivid
[16:17] <tvoss> mardy, updated to account for security request and design guidelines: https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/trust-store/fix-1504022/+merge/278418
[16:19] <mardy> tvoss: mmm... I might need to do something similar in OA...
[16:19] <tvoss> mardy, please elaborate
[16:20] <mardy> mpt: I guess we need to update the OA permission request screen in a similar way?
[16:20] <mardy> tvoss: in Online Accounts we also have a permission request screen, which is a bit more complex that this
[16:20] <mpt> mardy, hmm, yes
[16:21] <mardy> mpt: I wonder if space might be a problem there
[16:21] <mardy> well, I guess not
[16:23] <tvoss> mardy, ah okay
[16:28] <mardy> tvoss: that screeenshot is coming from that QML file?
[16:28] <tvoss> mardy, yup
[16:29] <mardy> tvoss: I thought that one had to set the anchors on Column in order to make it use the full width of the parent
[16:29] <mardy> tvoss: but if it's smarter than I thought, all the better :-)
[16:30] <mardy> tvoss: reapproved :-)
[16:50] <tvoss> mardy, would you mind giving https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/657 a spin?
[17:06] <shadeslayer> ogra_: hurray, I hacked up ubuntu_command to flash my image after flashing ubuntu on the E5 :P
[17:09] <shadeslayer> still not happy though [ 111.076811]systemd-logind[5359]: Failed to start user service: Unknown unit: [email protected]
[17:21] <Elleo> sil2100: heya, any idea what causes the "Not in PPA" errors?
[17:21] <Elleo> sil2100: (still with silo 17)
[17:22] <ogra_> shadeslayer, weird, given the phone does not use systemd at all
[17:23] <ogra_> oh, wait, thats only logind
[17:26] <shadeslayer> ogra_: mmh, well, presumably there's other stuff going on as well on account of it being plasma and not unity :)
[17:27] <ogra_> yeah, llikely
[17:27] * shadeslayer tries flashing without formatting /system
[18:55] <slash> Hello, do you know a way to mount folder at every boot ?
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[00:03] <autowiz> 카드보드라는게 나온지 꽤됐군요 , 저만 몰랐 ... ㅠㅠ
[00:42] <ipeter_> 안녕하세요?
[00:43] <ipeter_> 출근했습니다.
[00:44] <HolyKnight> ㅎㅇㅇ
[00:44] <ipeter_> 하이요
[00:44] <Gooos> 안녕하세요.
[00:44] <DarkCircle> 로우요.
[00:46] <Gooos> 아. 개그셨군요!?
[00:49] <PotatoGim> 안녕하세요~
[01:21] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎㅎ
[01:30] <autowiz> 하이요
[03:11] <ipeter_> 로우요ㅕ
[03:11] <ipeter_> ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[03:21] <JasonJang> (묻지도 않는 말에 하는 말이지만,) 저는 24" 두대를 ㅅ 자로 놓고 쓰는데... 하는 일의 성격상, 수량이 모자라요. 4(~6개쯤) 쓰고 싶은데...ㅋㅋㅋ
[03:27] <ipeter_> 음...
[03:27] <ipeter_> 저랑 같으셔요.
[03:27] <ipeter_> 24인치 두개를 그런 배형으로 놓고 사용중입니다.
[03:28] <ipeter_> 모델은 Dell 24인치(16:10-조금 유명한 비율이라 아실지도 모르겠네요.)를 사용합니다.
[03:29] <jun__> 안녕하세요~
[03:53] <commania> 모두 로우요!
[03:55] <samahui_WS> 눈도 내리고 겨울 답군요
[03:55] <samahui_WS> 아랫지방은 폭설이라던데 서울은 그래도 살짝 내리고 마는군요
[03:55] <commania> 여기 광주는 펑펑 내리고...
[03:56] <commania> 바로 또 녹아버리네요
[03:56] <commania> 쌓일 눈은 아닌것 같아요
[03:57] <samahui_WS> 쌓이지만 않으면 다행이지요
[03:57] <samahui_WS> 다만 녹은 눈이 빙판이 되면 그건 또 그대로 출퇴근길 곤욕이겠네요
[04:02] <commania> 잠시 그치더니 또 내리네요.
[04:02] <commania> 눈발이 굵습니다.
[04:07] <jun__> 눈은...싫습니다 ㅜㅜ
[04:12] <razGon_MINILA> 광주는 눈이 좀쌓이네요
[04:12] <razGon_MINILA> 금방 녹아요.
[04:12] <razGon_MINILA> 비랑 겹쳐서 와서 그런지.
[04:15] <autowiz> 눈왔었나요? 못봤다는 ㅎㅎ
[04:15] <autowiz> 그럼 오늘 서울 첫눈?... 이라기는 너무 적게 왔을려나요?
[04:16] <autowiz> 첫눈 고백 이런거 보면 참 난감할때가 눈이 찔끔오다 말아버리면 ㅠㅠ
[04:16] <autowiz> 첫눈이 왔다니까 말인데 사마휘형님 부비부비 고백입니다 ㅋㅋㅋ
[04:18] <ipeter_> 오오
[04:18] <ipeter_> 라즈곤님 그곳에 사시는군요
[04:18] <ipeter_> 눈온다 들었습니다.
[04:18] <ipeter_> =)
[04:22] <razGon_MINILA> 조용히.. 살고 있어요.ㅎㅎ
[04:25] <Seony> ipeter_, 내년에 저 한국 갈 때 엔젤 아줌마도 오실듯 싶네요
[04:25] <razGon_MINILA> ?
[04:25] <razGon_MINILA> 한국들어오세요?
[04:25] <Seony> 네 관광 갑니다 ㅎㅎ
[04:25] <autowiz> 휴가차 오시겠지요
[04:25] <Seony> 휴가라기보단, 은행 대출 연장 신청도 해야되고 한국 안간지 너무 오래됐기도 했구요...
[04:26] <razGon_MINILA> 그렇군요
[04:26] <Seony> 한국 안간지 지금 5년째인가 6년째인가 그래요 ㅎㅎ
[04:26] <Seony> 비정상 프셰므 엄마 본지 1년 됐다고 징징대던데, 난 이노마 벌써 5년째다 ㅋ
[04:27] <autowiz> 경제적 여건만 되면 참 자주자주 다니면 좋을텐데말이지요
[04:27] <Seony> 그렇긴한데요, 사실 경제적인 여유 있으면 한국보단 다른 곳에 더 눈이 가게 됩니다 ㅎㅎ
[04:28] <Seony> 3년 전에 라스베가스 갔다왔는데, 한 번 더 가고 싶어요
[04:28] <ipeter_> 오오
[04:28] <ipeter_> 같이 오세요 오세요.
[04:28] <ipeter_> =) 같이 식사도하고
[04:28] <ipeter_> 같이 놀러다니고 그래요
[04:28] <ipeter_> =)
[04:28] <Seony> 네 ㅎㅎ. 일단 저는 은행 문제 때문에 내년에 꼭 가긴 가야되요
[04:28] <ipeter_> 여기 계신분들도 다 모여서 (오즈님도)
[04:28] <ipeter_> 같이 놓아요!
[04:30] <ipeter_> 같이 놓아요?ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 같이 맥주라도 하면서 놀.아.요.
[04:30] <ipeter_> 와이프분하고 같이 오시나요?
[04:30] <Seony> 원래는 같이 가기로 되어있었는데, 이번에 차를 충동구매하는 바람에 불확실하게 됐어요
[04:31] <Seony> 근데, 같이 가더라도 여기 모임에는 제 와이프는 안올 거에요 ㅎㅎ
[04:31] <autowiz> 아흐흐흐
[04:31] <ipeter_> 아하...ㅋㅋㅋ
[04:31] <autowiz> 대부분 뭐 그렇지 않을까 싶네요
[04:31] <ipeter_> 오즈님 뵌다고 뵌다고 해놓고 언제뵈나요.
[04:31] <ipeter_> 허허허
[04:31] <Seony> 글쵸. 물어보나마나 제 와이프는 이렇게 대답할 겁니다 "내가 거길 왜 가"
[04:31] <autowiz> 저는 우선 포테토님부터
[04:31] <ipeter_> 헉
[04:31] <ipeter_> ㅋㅋㅋ
[04:32] <ipeter_> 그럼 세명이서 한번 뭉칠까요?
[04:32] <ipeter_> 포테토님
[04:32] <ipeter_> 오즈님
[04:32] <ipeter_> 그리고 저
[04:32] <ipeter_> ㅋㅋㅋ
[04:33] <autowiz> 연말 번개부터 좀 추진해봐야 겠네요 이러다가 12월 되버릴거 같습니다 ㅠㅠ
[04:37] <ipeter_> 그러게요 그러게요.
[04:37] <ipeter_> 포테토님 나오세요!!
[04:40] <autowiz> 재순님 혹시 계실려나요?
[04:40] <autowiz> 개인적인 약속도 있고 다른 단체 모임도 있고 하실테니 말나온김에 이번주말이나 다음주말에 해버릴까 싶은데요
[04:41] <autowiz> 참가하실분 계시면 일정 다시 잡아야 할거 같구요. 뭐 아무도 안나서시기에 제가 총대매고 자리한번 만들어 보겠습니다.
[04:46] <autowiz> 메뉴 추천 받습니다. 족발 , 소고기, 돼지고기, 닭갈비, 중국집 코스, 일식 코스, 치맥, 포장마차, 장어+불닭발, 또...
[04:49] <jun__> 곱창!
[04:58] <samahui_WS> 양주
[05:04] <ipeter_> 사마휘님 나오실건가요?
[05:05] <ipeter_> 메뉴나오니 갑자기 맛있는거 먹고 싶네요
[05:05] <ipeter_> 모임에서요.
[05:14] <JasonJang> 저는 걍 우분투 포럼 송년회때(?) 같이 하죠?!~ auto wiz
[05:18] <autowiz> 고량주 ㅋㅋ
[05:21] <autowiz> 어 재순님 빠지시면 흐지부지 되는데 ㅎㅎㅎ
[05:30] <HolyKnight> 어플로 주식주문하려했더니
[05:30] <HolyKnight> 종합계좌정보가 조회안된다는 오류를 뱉어내네유
[05:30] <HolyKnight> 빡치네유 ㅎㅎ
[05:31] <JasonJang> autowiz: 그럼 web-forum 송년모임'과 별개로 irc 송년 번개 추진중??
[05:32] <autowiz> 네 irc 방사람중에 뜯맞는사람만 한 5명정도 할려고 했었지요
[05:33] <JasonJang> 그럼 저도 *뜯*을 맞추께요. 하명'만 하세여~
[05:35] <autowiz> 뭐 일단 말 꺼내보고 다들 스케쥴 안되시면 포럼모임으로 대체 ~ 하면 되지요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[05:38] <autowiz> 포럼에 아직 송년회 관련 글 올라온건 없는거지요? 찾아보고 있는데 안보이네요
[05:38] <JasonJang> 예, 아직 없어여
[05:38] <JasonJang> 송년모임과 별개로 또 하는 것도 찬성, 같이 하는 것도 찬성
[05:38] <JasonJang> <--- 줏대없는 1인. 그리고
[05:39] <JasonJang> 우리 둘만이라도 Good.
[05:39] <autowiz> 이번주말이나 다음주말 어떠신지요?
[05:39] <autowiz> 평일이나 금요일도 좋고
[05:39] <JasonJang> 好
[05:39] <autowiz> 오실 수 있으실거 같은분들도 의견의 주시면 감사하겠습니다 ㅎㅎ
[05:39] <autowiz> 여자?
[05:39] <autowiz> ㅋㅋㅋ
[05:41] <JasonJang> 저는 11/27~29, 12/4~6 전부 OK (11/30만 불능)
[05:42] <autowiz> 11월 28일이냐 12월 5일이냐, 그것이 문제로다
[05:51] <autowiz> 12월 달력이 나왔네요
[05:51] <autowiz> 아니 내년 달력이 나왔는데 올해 12월 이 첫장이네요 . 이번달도 거의 막바지고 , 올해도 거의 끝나가는군요
[05:54] <ipeter_> HolyKnight: 어떤 주식 사세요?
[05:54] <ipeter_> 종목 추천좀...부탁드립니다.
[05:54] <ipeter_> ㅋㅋㅋ
[05:56] <HolyKnight> 데헷
[05:56] <HolyKnight> 근데 하락하고있는게 함정
[05:59] <ipeter_> 허허
[05:59] <ipeter_> 원래 그래요.
[06:00] <ipeter_> 저도 제가 사면 무조건 떨어지고
[06:00] <ipeter_> 제가 팔면 막 오릅니다.
[06:00] <ipeter_> ㅋㅋㅋ
[06:04] <samahui_pi> 항상이야기하지만주식은안하면버는겁니 다
[06:11] <samahui_WS> 주식은 안하는게 답입니다
[06:12] <jun__> 주식으로 돈을 벌긴 하나요..???
[06:12] <samahui_WS> 모임을 정말 가고 싶은데 ... 둘째가 엊그제 태어나서 오늘 집에 모셔다 주고 왔습니다
[06:12] <razGon_MINILA> 추천드릴건 장투.
[06:12] <razGon_MINILA> 대선 테마주.
[06:12] <samahui_WS> 이번 연말을 집에서 ㅜㅜ
[06:12] <PotatoGim> 으어...
[06:12] <razGon_MINILA> 그냥 사고 그냥 있으세요.
[06:12] <PotatoGim> 감기 때문에 죽겠네요..
[06:13] <samahui_WS> 정말 감기는 백약이 무효하고 오로지 쉬는게 답이더군요
[06:13] <samahui_WS> 푸욱~ 쉬세요
[06:13] <razGon_MINILA> ㅇㅇ
[06:13] <PotatoGim> 안타깝게도... 할 일이 무진장 많습니다...ㅜ
[06:13] <razGon_MINILA> 감기는 1.휴식.
[06:14] <razGon_MINILA> 2. 쉼.
[06:14] <razGon_MINILA> 3. 병가.
[06:14] <PotatoGim> 소장님이 병가라는 말을 무지 싫어하시더라구요...
[06:14] <razGon_MINILA> 우리나라에서는 말도 안되지만.ㅎ
[06:14] <razGon_MINILA> ㅇㅇ
[06:14] <PotatoGim> 4년 다니면서 처음 안 사실...ㅜ
[06:14] <samahui_WS> 의사선생님 처방이니 쉬세요
[06:14] <razGon_MINILA> 웃긴게
[06:14] <razGon_MINILA> 선동열 감독을 보면 알아요.
[06:15] <razGon_MINILA> 선동열 감독이 현역 최고의 투수이고 선수니.
[06:15] <razGon_MINILA> 그냥 자기 깜냥 만큼 선수 굴리는거죠.
[06:15] <razGon_MINILA> 일류급 선수들에게는 먹히는데.
[06:16] <razGon_MINILA> 서브급이나 혹은 1.5군 선수들에게는 독
[06:16] <razGon_MINILA> 뭐 그런말 가능하죠. 120구? 나도 왕년에는 그정도 햇지.
[06:16] <razGon_MINILA> 동원이형처럼.
[06:16] <razGon_MINILA> 근데. 그게 선수들은 그러다가 팀이 떨어져 나감.
[06:17] <razGon_MINILA> 소장정도 되시면 나름 그런재량이 있어야 하는데.
[06:17] <razGon_MINILA> 그게 또 되기힘든게. 욕심나서리.
[06:17] <razGon_MINILA> 자신은 또 안해서.
[06:17] <razGon_MINILA> 그렇게 안햇으니 포기할건 포기해야 되는데
[06:18] <PotatoGim> 한편으론 당사자인 저도 좀 미련하구나 싶습니다...ㅜ
[06:21] <PotatoGim> 요새 들어서는 나를 위해서 일을 하는게 아니라 일을 위해서 내가 "무엇인가"를 한다는 생각이 참 많이 드네요.
[06:21] <PotatoGim> 그 무엇인가가 뭔지 모르는게 참...ㅡㅡ;
[06:22] <PotatoGim> 이거저거 했는데 돌아보면 "뭐 했더라...?"
[06:23] <autowiz> 제가 어제 새벽에 몇자 적긴했는데 . . . 길게봐야 합니다.
[06:24] <autowiz> 회사입장에서 길게 보는게 아니라 개인입장에서 길게 봐야 합니다.
[06:24] <autowiz> 이놈의 간부나 사장님들은 회사 입장만 자꾸 강요하시는데 . 직접 일을 하지도 않고 회사돈이 자기돈이 되니까 그러신다는 생각이 자꾸만 드네요
[06:24] <jun__> 그래서 저도 퇴사 할라구요~ ㅋㅋㅋ
[06:25] <PotatoGim> 윽... 저는 추진력이 부족한가봅니다...ㅜ
[06:25] <autowiz> 회사가 돈을 벌면 번만큼 직원들한테 돌아가야 더 열심히 일 할 텐데
[06:25] <jun__> 오즈형 몇일전 일때문에 마음이 많이 상하셨나보네요;;;;
[06:25] <PotatoGim> 저도 이직 결정되서 이직하려다가...
[06:25] <autowiz> 포테토님 추진력에 힘되시라고 제가 로켓하나 박아드리겠습니다. ㅎㅎ
[06:26] <PotatoGim> 처음 입사할 때 생각했던 "리눅스 커널 파일시스템에 커밋 한번 해보자!"라는 목표를 못 이루었다는 생각에...
[06:26] <PotatoGim> 이직을 포기했었는데...
[06:26] <autowiz> 오오 좋습니다 좋아
[06:26] <PotatoGim> 지금 생각해보면 그냥 떠나기 싫어서 만들어낸 변명이 아닌가 싶네요...
[06:26] <autowiz> 그런의미에서 포테토님 저랑 저녁식사는 언제쯤 ... ㅠㅠㅠ
[06:27] <PotatoGim> 헉... 모임 추진하시는거 아니었나요? ㅋㅋ
[06:27] <autowiz> 자기자신을 냉정히 보기가 힘들때가 종종 있습니다.
[06:27] <autowiz> 그럴때는 주위의 도움을 받으면 됩니다. 제가 아주 칼같이 얾음같이 지적해드리겠습니다.
[06:27] <autowiz> 제 별명이 아이스맨이거든요 ㅎㅎ
[06:28] <autowiz> (탑건에 그 아이스맨이랑 좀 다른 그냥 저급 개그로 분위기를 얼려버리는 그런 아이스맨이라서 문제입니다만)
[06:30] <PotatoGim> 윽... 유리 멘탈이라 부서집니다...ㅜ
[06:33] <autowiz> 얼마전도 아니고 어제 저는 좋은말 두개를 들었습니다.
[06:38] <PotatoGim> 좋은 말이라 하심은...?
[06:39] <PotatoGim> http://blog.naver.com/gluesys/220550724094
[06:42] <autowiz> https://www.facebook.com/stage5/videos/818509528258985/
[06:42] <autowiz> 잡스 아저씨 2001 년
[06:42] <autowiz> https://www.facebook.com/stage5/videos/794764743966797/
[06:42] <autowiz> 인스타그램 창업자 ( 부제 : 사고칠 수준 )
[06:43] <autowiz> PotatoGim: 우와 건물 좋네요 크기도 크고
[06:43] <autowiz> 이제 현핀만 가면 되는건가요 ... 근데 추워서 ㅠㅠ
[06:47] <PotatoGim> 그래봤자 남에 건물 들어온거라...ㅜ
[06:47] <autowiz> 음음... 저는 저 건물 이 통째로 다 글루시스껀줄 ㅎㅎㅎ하하핳 핫핫핫
[06:49] <PotatoGim> 아마도 그랬다면 저는 불평불만 없이 시키는 일을 꾸역꾸역하면서 다니고 있을 것 같습니다....ㅋㅋ
[06:50] <autowiz> 자자 꿈은크게 ... 빌딩하나 사는걸 목표로 , 커널에 FS 관련 커밋도 좀 하고
[06:51] <autowiz> 실패는 할 수 있으나 포기하지만 않으면 된다는말을 2년전부터 마음에 새기며 살았는데 ... 저도 슬슬 포기하게될것만 같은 ... 응 ? 이게아니고
[06:51] <autowiz> 힘네세요~~
[06:56] <autowiz> 최대한 객관적으로 대안을 종이에 기록해보시고 다시한번 찬찬히 읽어보시는걸 추천드립니다.
[06:57] <autowiz> 저는 10대 때 컴퓨터 만지기 시작한 이후로 가능하면 간단하게 살려고 합니다.
[06:57] <autowiz> 3가지만 기억하는거지요.
[06:58] <autowiz> What I want , What I can , What I do . 뭐 영어문법에 안맞는거 같아서 to 랑 do 를 이리저리 넣은버젼도 있지만 저는 저게 딱 입에 달라붙어서 라임이잖아요 ㅋㅋㅋ
[06:59] <autowiz> 1. 원하는것 꿈만 생각합니다.
[06:59] <autowiz> 2. 현재 그 꿈을 위해 할 수 있는 일들만 생각합니다.
[06:59] <autowiz> 3. 현재 할 수 있는 일중에서 어떤일을 할지만 생각합니다.
[06:59] <autowiz> 4. 그냥 생각한대로 밀어붙입니다.
[07:00] <autowiz> 잡생각할 시간에 , 엉뚱한일 할 시간에 그냥 정진 하는게 답이 아닐까 라는 생각을 하고 있는 16:00 의 오즈군 입니다.
[07:08] <PotatoGim> 저는 잡생각이 많아서 더딘가봅니다..ㅎㅎ
[07:11] <autowiz> 아닙니다.
[07:11] <autowiz> 다 제탓입니다.
[07:41] <jun_> 으잉?? 튕겼다가 다시 접했네요 ㅎㅎ
[08:33] <autowiz> https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12249824_981070965299313_7219129893435549786_n.jpg?oh=a8abc407e0d3024e054c4c45bb5aa18b&oe=56DECB88
[08:33] <autowiz> 3시간전 천안이랍니다 ㅎㅎ 잘그렸는데요 ㅋㅋ
[08:34] <Seony> 플스4 돈 충전하는데 아주 돌아버리시겠네요
[08:35] <autowiz> 꿀꺽꿀꺽 먹어서 인가요?
[08:36] <autowiz> 아니면 뭔가 난관이 발생한건가요?
[08:36] <Seony> 아뇨 엑티브 엑스... 만악의 근원이죠 ㅋㅋ
[08:38] <autowiz> 안그래도 정말 누가 다시 소송이라도 내야하는거 아닌가 싶은 심정입니다.
[08:38] <autowiz> activex 에서 exe 로 아주 생 지랄들을 하고 계셔서
[08:38] <autowiz> 정부에서도 더이상 의지가 없어보이고
[08:45] <ipeter_> 휴.
[08:45] <ipeter_> 왜이렇게 어렵나요.
[08:45] <ipeter_> 생물학 할려니도 어렵고
[08:45] <ipeter_> 프로그래밍도 배울려면 까막눈이고
[08:45] <ipeter_> 아주 죽겠습니다.
[08:46] <autowiz> 왜 갑자기 생물학...
[08:57] <autowiz> 프로그래밍은 한장한장 호기심에 찬 아이처럼 한줄 한줄 읽고 이해하고 시간은 오래걸리지만 그방법이 제일 좋습니다.
[08:57] <samahui_WS> 언어를 익히는거라 친해져야죠... 많이 해보면 됩니다
[08:57] <autowiz> 간만에 즐거워서 불태우고 있습니다 ㅎㅎ
[08:58] <samahui_WS> 그나저나 생물학이라니... 예전에 분자생물학 관련 프로그래밍하느라 고생한 기억이 나는군요
[08:58] <autowiz> 사마휘 형님 책한권 안내시나요
[08:58] <autowiz> 프로그래밍언어 이렇게 공부하면 된다~ ㅋㅋ
[08:58] <samahui_WS> 책내면 망할듯해서
[08:58] <samahui_WS> ㅜㅜ
[08:58] <samahui_WS> 프로그래밍언어 나처럼하면 10년!!! 남처럼하면 10개월
[08:58] <samahui_WS> 이런책이요?
[08:58] <samahui_WS> ㅎㅎ
[08:58] <autowiz> 에이 겸손 과다하시옵니다
[08:58] <samahui_WS> 그나저나 이놈의 윈도우는 계속 꺼지는군요 ㅜㅜ
[08:59] <autowiz> 윈도우즈 8 이상은 절전기능이 자동이라
[08:59] <samahui_WS> 윈10 이번 1511인지 뭔지 업데이트후 이래저래 저와 안맞아지고 있어요
[08:59] <samahui_WS> ㅜㅜ
[08:59] <samahui_WS> 일하던거 여러번 날리는군요
[08:59] <samahui_WS> 자꾸 꺼버려요
[08:59] <autowiz> 그걸 잊어버려서 몇번을 방문했는지 모르겠습니다 ㅠㅠ
[08:59] <samahui_WS> 일땜시 한대는 써야되서 이놈에 깔았는데
[08:59] <autowiz> 대안을 새우셔야 할거 같습니다.
[08:59] <samahui_WS> 급 후회가 되는군요 ㅎㅎ;;
[09:00] <samahui_WS> 하지만 어쩔 수 없어서 프로젝트 끝날때까지는 유지해야되요 ㅜㅜ
[09:00] <autowiz> 윈도우즈 버젼을 바꾸시거나 머신을 바꾸시거나 프로그램을 바꾸시거나
[09:00] <autowiz> 저장 옵션을 바꾸시는등
[09:00] <samahui_WS> 그냥 끝없이 일하는겁니다
[09:00] <samahui_WS> 일이 끝날때까지
[09:00] <samahui_WS> ㅜㅜ
[09:00] <autowiz> 했던일 또 할려고 하면 짜증도 나고
[09:01] <samahui_WS> 그리고 마지막에 윈도우 파티션을 지워버리고 우분투로 갈아타면서 환호성을 울려야죠
[09:01] <autowiz> 전에 꺼처럼 잘 짜질까 하는 불안감? 도 들고
[09:01] <samahui_WS> 그정도면 괜찮은데.. 나이들어서 까먹어요
[09:01] <samahui_WS> 본래 의도했던 방향과 다른 방향으로 나아가죠
[09:01] <samahui_WS> 꺼졌다 다시할때마다 새로워요
[09:01] <samahui_WS> ㅎㅎ
[09:01] <autowiz> 마치 머리속도 꺼졌다 다시 켜지는거 처럼 ㅠㅠ
[09:02] <samahui_WS> 간혹 좋아지기도하죠 ㅎㅎ
[09:02] <samahui_WS> 왠만하면 에디터들은 자동저장을 잘 안하는데 윈도우로 개발작업하면서 자연스래 10분으로 설정해놓고 쓰게되네요
[09:03] <autowiz> 저는 다른건 잘 안하는데
[09:03] <autowiz> 파워포인트만큼은 와우 답이업더군요 한번 날려먹으니까
[09:04] <autowiz> 한글도 악명 높았었네요 ...
[09:04] <samahui_WS> 파포따위... 후임에게 떠넘기는거죠
[09:05] <samahui_WS> 한글따위... 다른 직원에게 떠넘기는거죠
[09:05] <samahui_WS> 저녁따위... 입속으로 떠넘기는거죠
[09:12] <samahui_WS> 날씨도 추운데 따스한 저녁시간들 보내세요
[09:13] <autowiz> 저도 무브 고고싱~
[09:21] <jun_> autowiz: 형 출발하셨습니까?
[14:47] <HolyKnight> http://mlbpark.donga.com/mbs/articleV.php?mbsC=bullpen2&mbsIdx=3784646&cpage=&mbsW=&select=&opt=&keyword=
[14:48] <OrganicM> 화장실 문 보통
[14:48] <OrganicM> 밀고 들어가지 않나요
[14:48] <OrganicM> 그냥 주작같은뎅
[14:48] <OrganicM> !본니
[14:48] <OrganicM> !본닉
[14:48] <OrganicM> 음
[14:48] <OrganicM> 닉이
[14:48] <OrganicM> ㅠㅠ
[14:49] <HolyKnight> ㅋㅋ
[14:49] <HolyKnight> http://m.blog.naver.com/kdi0373/220522832069
[15:20] <OrganicM> http://blog.naver.com/sadvan123/220551377598
[16:21] <ipeter> 흠.
[16:21] <ipeter> 아주 땡스기빙데이라고해서
[16:21] <ipeter> 미친척하고
[16:21] <ipeter> 마구 지르고 있습니다.
[16:21] <ipeter> 소프트웨어요.
[16:21] <ipeter> 울트라수트 10만원 넘게 질렀습니다.ㅠ
[16:22] <ipeter> 도대체 os는 공짜 우분투 쓰면서
[16:22] <ipeter> 솝트웨어는 아주 줄창 사제끼네요.
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-release
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[02:19] <bluesabre> please reject that xubuntu-meta wily upload
[02:21] <slangasek> bluesabre: done
[02:21] <bluesabre> slangasek: thank you
[12:39] <xnox> can lxd autopkgtest be retriggered please?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.454506
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-motu
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[08:04] <dholbach> good morning
[17:00] <teward> i assume that the PPU application process is how an upstream software maintainer would gain access to upload their package to Ubuntu?
[17:01] <teward> or rather, upload directly, while their 'access' to upload for Debian is pending
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.456783
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2015-11-26-#lubuntu
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[04:39] <neurosis12> Anybody got synapse to run consistently in Lubuntu 15.10?
[12:31] <Gnjurac> hi how is pepperfalsh for chromium called i want to install it
[12:32] <hateball> Gnjurac: apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[12:32] <hateball> Gnjurac: apt-cache search whatever
[12:32] <Gnjurac> ty
[12:37] <Unit193> hateball: It's actually shipped in adobe-flashplugin from partner, no crazy downloader scripts needed.
[12:44] <hateball> Unit193: That's nice, didnt know that. Too bad partner repo is not enabled default then
[12:44] <Gnjurac> beh stupit chromium not sending magnet links to transmision
[12:45] <hateball> Gnjurac: check the second post here http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/75614/set-transmission-as-default-program-when-opening-magnet-links
[12:46] <hateball> iirc I edit the mimetype manually
[12:47] <Gnjurac> i fixed that before by editing xdb-open
[12:49] <Gnjurac> anywey have to reboot now brb
[12:50] <Gnjurac> Sector 50 is already in use by the program `FlexNet'; avoiding it. This software may cause boot or other problems in future. Please ask its authors not to store data in the boot track.
[12:50] <Gnjurac> wtf is this
[12:50] <Gnjurac> waz doing upgrade and wihe grub upgrade i got this errors
[12:52] <Gnjurac> whatewer reboot time
[12:52] <Gnjurac> brb
[12:58] <Gnjurac> am back
[12:58] <Gnjurac> doing xdg-mime default transmission-gtk.desktop x-scheme-handler/magnet
[12:58] <Gnjurac> dident help at all
[12:59] <Gnjurac> i even installed sudo apt-get install exo-utils
[12:59] <Gnjurac> i think i need to edit xdg-open that worked last year
[13:55] <Guest3949> One of my programs crashed on Lubuntu 14.04. If I "send an error report to help fix this problem", where does the report go?
[13:57] <crashbash> This page, as of 2008, says that crash reports are only visible to trusted developers, to avoid exposing private info (coredumps). Is this system in use? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CrashReporting
[14:21] <Gnjurac> so i have a deb pacage i want to install
[14:21] <Gnjurac> will it automatic get all dependecis?
[14:22] <Gnjurac> dpgp -i file.deb
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-pl
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[10:25] <Ashiren> 1st
[10:26] <gjm> 2nd
[10:26] <gjm> o mały włos
[11:27] <jacekn_> widzieliscie juz nowe raspberry pi? $5, to taniej jak piwo w Londynie
[11:34] <gjm> jacekn: ty jesteś afair w uk?
[11:41] <jacekn> gjm: tak
[11:56] <gjm> ile kosztuje list z uk do bolandy?
[12:41] <jacekn> zalezy jaki duzy: http://www.royalmail.com/personal/international-delivery/international-standard http://www.royalmail.com/personal/international-delivery/international-economy
[12:56] <gjm> eh, ale widzę, że i tak już chyba nawet w uk nie można kupić
[13:00] <firemark> ja sie zastanawiam czy warto kupować
[13:00] <firemark> niby fajna zabawka, ale co ja z tym zrobię :D
[13:01] <BlessJah> nic
[13:02] <gjm> nie bądź niemiły
[13:02] <firemark> ja też jestem niemiły
[13:02] <BlessJah> jesli nie zamierzasz robic cokolwiek wiecej z GPIO niz podpiecie kilku ledów i buzzera, to nic nie zrobisz
[13:02] <firemark> myslę nad skrzynką do automatów
[13:02] <gjm> BlessJah: niby czemu?
[13:03] <firemark> tylko nie wiem czy akurat 1ghz by uciągnął gry od mame
[13:03] <gjm> jest spi, jest i2c
[13:03] <gjm> jest uart
[13:03] <gjm> firemark: poszukaj projektów na raspberry pi 2, te stare
[13:03] <gjm> to jest to ten sam soc
[13:03] <gjm> i ma tyle samo ramu
[13:04] <firemark> no ja sie zastanawiam. Bo mam zaduzo płyt głównych i dysków
[13:04] <firemark> które z chęcią bym się kiedyś też pozbył…
[13:05] <gjm> do tego china konwerter lvds + mała matryca
[13:05] <gjm> i fajny mamebox
[13:05] <BlessJah> gjm: dla mnie to wszystko to GPIO
[13:05] <gjm> xD
[13:05] <firemark> gpio to też jest
[13:06] <gjm> podpinasz moduł gps i masz logger za grosze
[13:06] <firemark> ile moduł gps kosztuje tak btw?
[13:08] <gjm> za $15 znajdziesz
[13:11] <firemark> mhm
[14:53] <system0x001> Jakie jest najlepsze rozwązanie uruchamiania skryptów w nautilusie na zaznaczonym katalogu ?
[14:53] <system0x001> dodam, że PWD działa tylko na otwary
[14:53] <system0x001> katalogu
[14:53] <system0x001> otwartym*
[22:58] <Guest93683> hej, mam problem z oc i temperatura procka na linuxie, moglby ktos pomoc?
[23:00] <firemark> 1st
[23:00] <firemark> no to juz nie ma problemu
[23:08] <drathir> ugotowal sie zapewne...
[23:09] <firemark> :D
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.481863
| 2015-11-26T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-kernel
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[09:20] <apw> xnox, did that updated branch work ok for you ?
[09:36] <xnox> apw, i didn't build it yet, been busy with java.
[09:36] <apw> xnox, np
[10:59] <xnox> apw, jolly good! =) Status: successful
[11:00] <xnox> and splits all look correct
[11:05] <apw> xnox, nice thanks for testing
[11:05] <xnox> no problem.
[11:05] <xnox> apw, when is the next upload scheduled for into xenial? is it on a cadance?
[11:07] <apw> xnox, xenial is free flowing ... we are waiting on some dkms packages gettting fixed right now before we can shift to the 4.3 kernel
[11:07] <apw> xnox, various 4.2 kernels may appear before then depending how long it takes
[11:07] <apw> though that said it was pretty close when i last looked, i have just asked for some testing to be redone (adt side) which should let me have a current feel
[11:08] <xnox> apw, if launchpad gets lit up on monday, i'd want to build images on tuesday, thus i will need /a/ kernel upload by then =)
[11:08] <xnox> but it is a big if, if launchpad gets lit up on monday, cause turkey slaughter fest and all that.
[11:09] <apw> xnox, ok well that pushes us to release it with warts, but that is probabally ok, i'll know today i hope whether the main blockers are cleared up
[11:09] <apw> xnox, is it turkey day in the US again already ?
[11:09] <xnox> cool.
[11:09] <xnox> apw, yeah, i think it is thanksgiving, cause i'm getting spam about pointless black friday sales for tomorrow
[11:10] <xnox> there is 25% off on champagne at tescos, nothing else good so far.
[11:20] <apw> heh, 25% off champers is good, i like champers
[11:22] <xnox> book online delivery or pickup before sunday midnight. it's also discount on wines. but the range is not that great that they have.
[11:23] <davmor2> xnox: if it is corked instead of screw cap it's top notch ;)
[11:24] <xnox> davmor2, well, it has to be /cork/ as well, rather than plastic cork ;-)
[11:24] * xnox shows his colours
[11:26] <davmor2> xnox: no, no, that is posh wine not top notch, top notch is corked, and cheap is screw top :D
[11:26] <davmor2> posh wine == decent
[11:27] <davmor2> xnox: technically unless you blow 100 years of dust off the bottle it's hopeless, but then you would never open that you just show it off and earn a fortune off it as it gets older :)
[12:11] <apw> davmor2, best not to open anything that old as it will likely be undrinkable
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.487420
| 2015-11-26T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu+1
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[12:26] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:31] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[17:28] <elhoir> hello guys, just a question.. hoiw do you know which exasct driver are you using? (radeon, radeonsi, r600.....)?
[17:29] <elhoir> my GPU is an AMD HD6750
[18:08] <lordievader> elhoir: lspci -k tells you.
[18:08] <lordievader> Or lshw.
[18:10] <elhoir> lspci -k says "radeon"
[18:10] <elhoir> but, it says so even after purging xserver-xorg-video-radeon package
[18:11] <elhoir> thATS WHY I AM NOT SURE
[18:11] <elhoir> oooops
[18:11] <elhoir> thats why i am not sure
[18:25] <lordievader> elhoir: Did you reboot after purging the package?
[19:53] <elhoir> lordievader, cant remember...
[19:53] <TJ-> elhoir: the kernel driver reported by 'lspci' is *not* the same thing as the X server video drivers
[19:53] <lordievader> Well, if it is still loaded it points to a no.
[19:54] <lordievader> That too.
[19:54] <elhoir> TJ-, so... what th am i using? :P
[19:54] <TJ-> elhoir: if nothing is currently depending on the kernel module it can be unloaded with "modprobe -r radeon" but I'd suspect it is driving the TTYs and therefore cannot be removed
[19:56] <TJ-> elhoir: your question is too generic. "you" aren't using a driver, but some software components of the PC are. Which component you mean will require a different answer
[19:57] <TJ-> elhoir: once an exectuable program, or library, is loaded into memory it will remain in-use and available whilst it is linked, even if you unlink (remove) the file it was loaded from.
[19:57] <elhoir> ok... i mean my GPU
[19:58] <elhoir> which driver is it using
[19:58] <elhoir> radeon, radeonsi, r600....
[19:58] <TJ-> elhoir: in reality the file is still there, alive and well and being used. unlink-ing only makes it invisible in the file-system. Once no process has it in use *then* the file will be deleted
[19:58] <elhoir> TJ-, yeah, i understand, you need a reboot to see the differences
[19:58] <TJ-> The GPU kernel module driver for hardware access will be the one reported by 'lspci -k'
[19:58] <elhoir> or a X restart
[19:59] <elhoir> TJ-, it reports "radeon"
[19:59] <elhoir> is it radeonsi?
[19:59] <TJ-> The 'driver' (shared library) used by the X server will be reported in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:00] * elhoir is looking for it
[20:00] <elhoir> [ 50.022] (II) RADEON(0): [DRI2] Setup complete
[20:00] <elhoir> [ 50.022] (II) RADEON(0): [DRI2] DRI driver: r600
[20:00] <elhoir> [ 50.022] (II) RADEON(0): [DRI2] VDPAU driver: r600
[20:01] <elhoir> found (i think)
[20:02] <TJ-> mesa-vdpau-drivers: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/vdpau/libvdpau_r600.so.1.0.0
[20:02] <TJ-> vdpau-va-driver: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/r600_drv_video.syo
[20:02] <TJ-> libgl1-mesa-dri: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/r600_dri.so
[20:08] <elhoir> and now, why is it using r600 instead of radeonsi?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.493925
| 2015-11-26T00:00:00 |
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"TJ-",
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2015-11-26-#maas
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[19:23] <mancubus> Hey ppl
[19:26] <mancubus> Can anyone point me how to make customized installation proccess? For example after installation I want add 2 more public keys and install KVM on hosts. In ALU CloudBand it made by "recipe"
[19:26] <mancubus> But I can not find any about customization in MAAS
[23:25] <mup> Bug #1520378 opened: maas does not update the image in /var/lib/maas/boot-resources/current/custom/amd64/generic/{my-custom-os}/uploaded/root-dd <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520378>
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.500184
| 2015-11-26T00:00:00 |
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"mancubus",
"mup"
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}
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-fi
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[07:22] <Thaurwylth> Aaaa niin, otetaans vielä kerran. On vissiin tapoja saada GRUB ja EFI toimimaan keskenään?
[15:33] <elias_a> Onkos kuulolla ketään Thinkpad X201 -käyttäjää?
[15:56] <anacron> mul olis x220 :-D
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.509593
| 2015-11-26T00:00:00 |
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"Thaurwylth",
"anacron",
"elias_a"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-fi"
}
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-unity
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[06:48] <lpotter> just got a slimport adapter and tried the convergence/display thing. The on screen keyboard pops up even though I have bluetooth keyboard connected, and it completely covers the input box so I cannot see what I am typing
[08:48] <Saviq> lpotter, morning, that should not happen... you can find some per-device configuration options in /usr/share/unity8/DeviceConfiguration.qml
[08:48] <Saviq> lpotter, it might be we're ignoring a keyboard too many in your case for some reason
[08:48] <Saviq> we need to ignore some because all kinds of things register as kbds/mice on different devices
[08:49] <lpotter> yes, this one has mouse on it as well
[08:54] <Saviq> tsdgeos, seen bug #1519893? looks like ours, unless the plugin loses the header string, could you check? easily reproducible fwiw
[08:55] <tsdgeos> Saviq: yeah was having a look now
[08:55] <Saviq> ack
[08:55] <tsdgeos> Saviq: there's been a big-ish rework of the plugin
[08:55] <tsdgeos> could be there too
[08:55] <Saviq> ack
[08:55] <tsdgeos> i'll assign mysefl
[08:55] <tsdgeos> aj you did already
[09:08] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: the bug 1519893 seems to be on my side FWIW
[09:13] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, ok, thanks
[09:27] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: Saviq: listviewpagehader.cpp says "// TODO recreate sections"
[09:27] <tsdgeos> :D
[09:27] <Saviq> ;)
[09:28] <tsdgeos> you know it was never really needed until pstolowski's better model came around
[09:28] <Saviq> ah that's because of diff updates :)
[09:28] <tsdgeos> so never implemented it
[09:29] <tsdgeos> ah wait, no it's not that one
[09:29] <tsdgeos> that's changing the proerty name
[09:29] <tsdgeos> that we never change, it's always "name"
[09:29] <tsdgeos> but yeah must be related to things that never happend before
[09:30] <pstolowski> reminds me of qFatal we found before ;)
[09:30] <tsdgeos> well those were on purpose :D
[09:30] <tsdgeos> can't happen, don't bother implementing
[09:52] <mzanetti> lpotter, hey, you really don't want stable/ubuntu-developer
[09:52] <mzanetti> use rc-proposed/ubuntu
[09:56] <lpotter> ubuntu-developer seems to have more fun stuff :)
[10:09] <mzanetti> lpotter, like? outdated versions?
[10:09] <mzanetti> :)
[10:10] <lpotter> well.. has OTA 8
[10:10] <mzanetti> oh really...
[10:10] <mzanetti> last time I tried it, it was behind for months
[10:10] <lpotter> and an overload of scopes
[10:11] <lpotter> it was stable/ubuntu that was way behind
[10:12] <davmor2> mzanetti: it gets updated the same time as everything else
[10:12] <lpotter> personally I think they should just be named devel, testing, and release...
[10:14] <davmor2> lpotter, mzanetti: it is the stable channel so it's base image only gets updated when stable is updated ie every 6-ish weeks
[10:26] <tsdgeos> for (int i = change.index; i < change.count; ++i) { <-- me not being very smart
[13:32] <Guest552342> woa! unity 8 has themes http://news.softpedia.com/news/first-unity-8-custom-theme-is-being-built-496759.shtml
[13:56] <tsdgeos> Saviq: this fixes the bug with the missing header https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/sectionDelegateUpdates/+merge/278706 not sure how urgent it is reagarding how close to the next release we are
[13:57] <Saviq> tsdgeos, next silo should be fine
[13:57] <tsdgeos> ok
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.515644
| 2015-11-26T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-26-#ubuntustudio
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[06:11] <Guest68802> michael
[14:26] <joansito> just passing here to say thanks. Ubuntu Studio is perfect for my needs, three years with it.
[14:26] <joansito> www.terraco.ga
[20:39] <orcus> Hello
[20:40] <Guest19140> I have a question to ask about ubuntu studio auto-hide menu
[20:40] <Guest19140> then one that pops up when you put the arrow close to the bottom section of the screen
[20:40] <Guest19140> i want to disable it but i cant find it in options
[20:43] <Guest19140> hello fratto
[20:49] <fratto> Guest19140: Hi!
[21:00] <Guest19140> I need help
[21:14] <Guest19140> I need help
[21:22] <fratto> With UbuntuStudio? I'm just a noobie, but please tell us your problem!
[21:22] <Guest19140> about ubuntu studio auto-hide menu
[21:22] <Guest19140> how do i disable it
[21:22] <Guest19140> the one that pops up at the bottom
[21:22] <Guest19140> yh UbuntuStudio
[21:23] <Unit193> Ctrl+Rightclick → Panel → Panel Preferences → Minus Button
[21:28] <Guest19140> u my friend i owe u a beer
[21:29] <Guest19140> also im trying to install wacom drivers , but i have broken packages
[21:30] <Guest19140> sudo apt-get update doesnt fix them
[21:30] <Guest19140> synaptic >edit> fix broken packages doesnt fix them
[21:32] <Unit193> sudo apt-get install -f ?
[21:33] <Guest19140> -f then the package name?
[21:34] <Guest19140> doesnt work
[21:34] <Unit193> No, -f is for 'fix'
[21:35] <Unit193> What's the exact error you're getting
[21:35] <Unit193> ?
[21:35] <Guest19140> oh , i used aptitude its working now , it said its gona remove 44 packages
[21:35] <Guest19140> hope its not gona mess up something
[21:38] <Guest19140> ah it froze
[21:44] <Guest19140> i fixed it
[21:45] <Guest19140> bye thank you for help
[23:49] <Accidentalmeme> hello
[23:49] <Accidentalmeme> ChanServ
[23:50] <Accidentalmeme> nvm
[23:58] <leandro-toribio> [email protected]
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.525710
| 2015-11-26T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-news
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[17:00] <pleia2> working on CC election post for the fridge
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.529301
| 2015-11-26T00:00:00 |
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"pleia2"
],
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-gr
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.566846
| 2015-11-26T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-community-team
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[08:04] <dholbach> good morning
[08:53] * dholbach relocates to the office, brb
[09:02] <davidcalle> Morning o/
[10:19] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:26] <dpm> morning czajkowski and all
[14:23] <dholbach> davidcalle, did we hear anything back from webops about getting better logs or something?
[14:23] <dholbach> or any other news? :/
[14:25] <davidcalle> dholbach, I'm deploying with logging in a short moment, a bit anxious about discovering what's up :)
[14:25] * dholbach hugs davidcalle
[14:25] <dholbach> awesome, thanks a lot!
[14:26] <davidcalle> dholbach, will ping you as soon as I know more, don't worry ;)
[14:31] * dholbach hugs davidcalle_
[14:38] <dpm> davidcalle_, around?
[14:42] <davidcalle_> dpm, on and off
[14:45] <dpm> davidcalle_, ok, let's try when you're on :)
[14:46] <dpm> I just wanted to pick your brain for some of your ubuntu-web-guidelines-fu
[14:47] <davidcalle_> dpm, :)
[14:48] <dpm> davidcalle_, PM'd you the URL I'm editing
[15:09] <dholbach> davidcalle_, I updated https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/developer-ubuntu-com/django-cms-update/+merge/278447 - not sure if they'll help with fixing things :/
[15:12] <davidcalle_> dholbach, will try!
[15:30] <dholbach> davidcalle_, it works for me with sqlite and postgres - importer still broken
[15:30] <dholbach> but I see none of the publishing or login issues locally
[15:31] <davidcalle_> dholbach, so remind me when we switch to mysql on prod? :p
[15:31] <dholbach> davidcalle_, ask stub ;-)
[15:31] <davidcalle_> dholbach, thanks for all these upgrades, it can only improve the situation :)
[15:32] <dholbach> I think I'm done with the training materials now as well, at least as far as I can see, so I can maybe help a bit more again... and talk to Daniele from Django CMS again
[16:44] <popey> I spy CC election results
[16:45] <pleia2> indeed! dholbach is preparing announcement, I'll push to fridge
[16:45] <pleia2> yay new leaders! (who are not me!)
[16:45] <popey> Congratulations czajkowski dholbach mhall119 belkinsa hggdh marcoceppi
[16:45] <popey> (can't see scarlet here)
[16:47] <czajkowski> popey: you never miss a beat :)
[16:47] <popey> hah
[16:47] <popey> well, to be fair, pleia2 tweeted it
[16:47] <popey> which reminded me I hadn't voted
[16:47] <czajkowski> ah
[16:47] <czajkowski> popey: bold
[16:47] <popey> So I voted, then dholbach closed the poll :D
[16:49] <czajkowski> every little helps
[16:53] * czajkowski hugs pleia2
[16:53] <czajkowski> you left too soon
[16:53] * pleia2 hugs
[16:55] * dholbach hugs pleia2
[16:56] <pleia2> czajkowski: I think I left too late, my term expired weeks ago! :)
[17:01] <czajkowski> pff
[17:01] <czajkowski> you're always a ping away :)
[17:02] <pleia2> indeed
[17:15] <dholbach> have a great reest of your day everyone - see you tomorrow!
[17:33] <hggdh> popey: thank you. I am, actually, quite surprised
[17:34] <popey> I'm not :)
[17:45] <czajkowski> hggdh: belkinsa marcoceppi mhall119 congratulations
[18:00] <hggdh> czajkowski: thank you
[18:00] <hggdh> cjohnston: and congrats to you as well
[18:04] <czajkowski> cz tab complete:)
[18:04] <czajkowski> lots of c's in here
[18:15] <hggdh> oh
[18:15] <hggdh> darn!
[18:16] <hggdh> cjohnston: well, you *do* deserve congrats, always. But not this one.
[18:16] * hggdh reassigns contrats to czajkowski (yeah tab works on cz)
[18:23] <czajkowski> :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.575726
| 2015-11-26T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-hr
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[06:29] <SilverSpace> jutro
[06:47] <Mmike> o
[06:48] <SilverSpace> o
[06:52] <jelly> smrčak http://imgur.com/VSmbPrD
[06:59] <SilverSpace> :)
[07:08] <SilverSpace> zima vani
[07:22] <jelly> noise cancellation na pravom mjestu https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/silent-partner-quiets-snoring-noise-like-magic#/
[07:32] <SilverSpace> jelly: kaj te drmne struja kad zahrces :)
[07:45] <SilverSpace> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUJwZZMYBcw
[07:45] <datase> YouTube: Baboons attack a car with roof luggage - 0:01:32 - 191076 views - 239 likes / 8 dislikes
[07:51] <SilverSpace> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero/
[08:08] <SilverSpace> para i para bi mogao na tu elektroniku potrositi
[08:16] <dodobas> yutro
[08:16] <dodobas> SilverSpace: jos da skuzis za sto bi je iskoristio
[08:16] <dodobas> :)
[08:22] <ivoks> ne kuzim ovaj ford
[08:22] <ivoks> fakat ne kuzim
[08:22] <ivoks> unutra sve super izgleda
[08:22] <ivoks> al bas sve
[08:23] <ivoks> i onda stave ocajne tipke na cd/mp3 player
[08:23] <ivoks> sve je crno sa tonovima sive
[08:23] <ivoks> i onda stave bijele tipke za seek i tune
[08:23] <ivoks> pa koji k...
[08:27] <SilverSpace> dodobas: aj ne možeš baš sve znat
[08:30] <dodobas> SilverSpace: a e... sve je ok dok god ne moras kupovati novi ormar da bi sve spremio :)
[08:34] <SilverSpace> :)
[08:35] <SilverSpace> ne kuzim ljude kaj se bune da im racunalo zdere puno rama
[08:36] <SilverSpace> ram je tu da ga aplikacije koriste
[08:47] <MmikeM> Hoi
[09:08] <jelly> Poloi
[09:28] <MmikeM> jelly: oooo!
[09:28] <MmikeM> i grcki znamo :)
[09:30] <jelly> to je grcki?
[09:32] <BotaniCar> jelly: apropo mog "samo nema trgovine" , nisam ni pomislio da bi trebali zapucat, nego se sad pokazuje prava moc Rusije - aj budi mudonja pa Turcima stisni embargo :) To ipak ne mogu :)
[09:39] <jelly> MmikeM et al > <t> no i zadnji put je rekao da je to bila glavna berba, a da druge kasnije sorte nema ove godine <t> nema on veliku količinu a ne prodaje da skuplja od susjeda i okolo nego samo od svojih roditelja šta brat i roditelji poberu :) <t> tako da ne vjerujem da bude više mandarina
[09:40] <MmikeM> eh
[09:40] <MmikeM> ack
[09:42] <SilverSpace> jebo windoze imaju 76G praznog prostora a vicu da im fali prostora
[09:43] <jelly> nije dosta 76 valjda
[09:44] <jelly> ili je krivo razrezano pa na C: nema a na D: ima, isto ko sto Debian stavi / od 500MB
[09:44] <SilverSpace> ne to je na C
[09:53] <MmikeM> SilverSpace: ne da jebo, nego, bjez od njih
[09:53] <MmikeM> sinoc sam istrazivao malo oko onog WinSXS foldera
[09:53] <MmikeM> pa to je takav engineering fail
[09:53] <MmikeM> onda sam citao blog od nekog lika koji pokusava to opravdati
[09:53] <MmikeM> pa je i on na kraju priznao da je to fail
[09:53] <MmikeM> ugl, windows update je spor, checking for updates je spor, i nemosh nist oko toga napraviti
[09:53] <MmikeM> na win8 je malo brzi nego na win7
[09:54] <vileni_> pa prestani ih apdejtati :)
[09:54] <SilverSpace> MmikeM: ovo je 10w
[09:54] <MmikeM> zakaj imam glup nick?!
[09:54] <MmikeM> hm
[09:55] <SilverSpace> MmikeMali
[09:55] <MmikeM> SilverSpaceDuhoviti
[09:55] <ivoks> Effective 10 May 2015, applicants for visas will be required to apply in person at the South African mission.
[09:55] <ivoks> well, screw you
[09:55] <Mmike> nemres vise vracat plastiku od mlijeka
[09:55] <Mmike> jutros sam k'o debil dosao s 4 vrece pune plastike od mlijeka :)
[09:56] <jelly> sve u kontenjer za plastiku
[09:58] <jelly> pojeo sve mandarine
[09:59] <SilverSpace> Mmike: to je takva koruptivna namjestaljka
[09:59] <SilverSpace> kao smanjili 50lipa cijenu mljeka
[09:59] <Mmike> ma debilizam
[09:59] <SilverSpace> jako veliki
[10:00] <SilverSpace> nekome se jako pogodovalo
[10:02] <SilverSpace> lol jebo te kak ljudi ne znaju
[10:03] <SilverSpace> covjeku doso update win jucer i danas panika
[10:03] <SilverSpace> nisu mu vise inkone na mjestu
[10:03] <SilverSpace> drugacije izgleda
[10:03] <SilverSpace> zahtjeva da mu vratim sve kak je bilo jucer :)
[10:07] <jelly> pljačka sira završila nespretno http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/cheese-heist-ends-in-truck-rollover-3-arrests-1.3335969
[10:10] <Mmike> SilverSpace: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVJNkEuVhDI /<- taman kad F1 pocinje bit zabavna
[10:10] <datase> YouTube: Grand Prix 1967 - Zandvoort - 0:08:46 - 28737 views - 97 likes / 2 dislikes
[10:23] <SilverSpace> LiFi
[10:24] <SilverSpace> Mmike: eh to je bila zabava
[10:27] <SilverSpace> http://www.24sata.hr/auto/mazda-cx-3-poput-sportasa-uzitak-za-oko-i-zabava-u-voznji-448697
[10:28] <Mmike> kak je fino kompajlirat stvari na stroju sa 50 jezgri :)
[10:29] <SilverSpace> ova mazga sasvim dobro izgleda
[10:29] <SilverSpace> je da je mala
[10:29] <vileni_> Mmike: kako 50
[10:30] <Mmike> vileni_: u biti 56
[10:30] <SilverSpace> koje su to pile bile 67
[10:31] <SilverSpace> kakva aerodinamika samo sirova snaga
[10:35] <hbogner> jel netko zna nesto o http://www.altus-it.hr ekipi?
[10:52] <ivoks> dakle
[10:52] <ivoks> ovo sto moram donijeti za JAR nisam morao donijeti ni za SAD
[10:53] <ivoks> pa ovi nisu normalni
[10:53] <ivoks> Od dokumenata-potrebno Vam je slijedeće;
[10:53] <ivoks> 1.putovnica
[10:53] <ivoks> 2 fotografije –veličina kao za putovnicu
[10:53] <ivoks> 3.rezervacija povratne avio karte-napomena-sama rezervacija je dovoljna!
[10:54] <ivoks> 4.potvrda o zaposlenju
[10:54] <ivoks> ...do sad sve normalno, al onda...
[10:54] <ivoks> 5. ispis transakcija zadnja 3 mjeseca Vašeg tekućeg računa
[10:54] <ivoks> 6.garantno pismo pozivatelja –dobro je priložiti i bankovne transakcije zadnja 3 mjeseca pozivatelja
[10:56] <ivoks> koji je njima k
[11:04] <pkiller> oni koji eksploatiraju tu zemlju ne žele konkurenciju pa su pogurali malo zakone u svoju korist
[11:05] <pkiller> sta nisi bio i prošle godine u ovo vrijeme tamo?
[11:06] <ivoks> prije dvije godine
[11:06] <pkiller> kao da je bilo jucer :)
[11:09] <dodobas> ivoks: jel jos uvijek u budimpesti ?
[11:10] <ivoks> da
[11:19] <BotaniCar> trosi tko poslovnu e-zabu na ubuntuJu ?
[11:19] <BotaniCar> nece mi s 15icom, bas mora biti 14.X LTS?
[11:20] <ivoks> moj stari
[11:20] <ivoks> ne sjecam se sto koristi, ali sigurno nije nista starije od 14.04
[11:21] <ivoks> s time da su ima paketi potrgani
[11:21] <ivoks> bar su bili zadnji put
[11:21] <BotaniCar> da. paketi su im rpmovi konvertirani u debove
[11:21] <ivoks> slao sam im mail da cu im to badava popraviti
[11:21] <ivoks> al nisu ni odgovorili
[11:21] <BotaniCar> velis, badava si slao :D
[11:22] <ivoks> barem imaju 64bitnu verziju sad
[11:22] <ivoks> ha
[11:22] <BotaniCar> Authentication with client certificate has failed.
[11:22] <BotaniCar> A valid client certificate is required to establish this connection. #psmtr
[11:22] <ivoks> mislim da mi je to bio problem kod starog
[11:22] <BotaniCar> ne radi im middleware ..
[11:23] <ivoks> ma radi
[11:23] <ivoks> samo trebas rucno sve to napraviti
[11:23] <ivoks> jer su konji
[11:23] <ivoks> daj ih nazovi i reci im da su nesposobni program zapakirati
[11:23] <BotaniCar> instalirao sam SafenetAuthenticationClient-9.0.43-0_amd64.deb s njihovog weba. Nakon toga mi se upalila lampica na sticku, ne znam kaj jos da napravim
[11:24] <Mmike> promjeni banku :D
[11:26] <ivoks> modul za firefox utrpaju na krivo mjesto
[11:26] <ivoks> tak da ti firefox ne zna pricati sa stickom
[11:26] <BotaniCar> OK, kaj dalje ?
[11:27] <ivoks> ne sjecam se
[11:27] <BotaniCar> Idem ih davit, ionak prmaju paru za to
[11:27] <ivoks> ma kreteni su
[11:27] <ivoks> reci im da samo trebaju pitati i pomoci cemo im
[11:29] <Mmike> kad bi bar banke tak radile
[11:43] <BotaniCar> Humpf, nazovem helpdesk i prije nego sam mogao birati kaj hocu veli automat da downgradeam firefox ili upalim IE :)
[11:43] <BotaniCar> Majku im spalim
[11:50] <hbogner> Mmike, os sutra navecer samnom na klopu? :D
[11:50] <hbogner> moras u drugu drzavu ali fina klopa :D
[11:50] <Mmike> hbogner: dje kaj sta? :D
[11:50] <Mmike> hbogner: inace, nemrem, jer nisam u zg, al' svejedno - dje kaj sta? :)
[11:51] <hbogner> Mmike, Novi Sad :D
[11:51] <Mmike> pa to mi daleko malo :)
[11:53] <hbogner> i meni daleko al moram ic
[11:54] <hbogner> moram sljedeca 3 vikenda ici
[11:59] <hbogner> sjetit cu se tebe dok budem jeo :D
[12:01] <vileni_> hbogner: sjeti se i mene :P
[12:02] <hbogner> vileni_, :D
[12:05] <Mmike> da
[12:06] <Mmike> mosh donjet pljesku koju
[12:06] <Mmike> nema veze kaj ce hladna bit
[12:06] <BotaniCar> Vele mi u ZABAinom helpdesku da bi oni mene nazvali kad im se tehnicari oslobode :) That's a first :)
[12:10] <Mmike> go BotaniCar , go BotaniCar
[12:11] <BotaniCar> Zamisli volumen pizdarije koju su napravili ako ih danas korisnici toliko zovu da nemaju tehnicara kojima mogu spojiti poziv, makar se cekalo :)
[12:13] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: lol imaju jednog tehnicara
[12:14] <SilverSpace> http://is.gd/rElAHq mali rpi
[12:25] <jelly> mali ali mlohav
[12:33] <jelly> takva plocica za nas nece kostat $5 nego 180kn iz nekog razloga
[12:34] <BotaniCar> Mmike: sam ti vec rekao kako si promucuran i imam te rad' ? :) GOTO 1 :)
[12:38] <Mmike> :D
[12:49] <Mmike> potrgo se mongo, popravimo mongo, i sad customer oce znati zasto se potrgo
[12:49] <Mmike> reko... eeee :)
[12:51] <jelly> ha, WD store shipa iz skladista u Amsterdamu
[12:57] <ivoks> https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/12294866_515430685293407_1058317765078916478_n.png?oh=75b7e1bfc4b6e92cd956e3a1f0d8501a&oe=56E8D543
[13:00] <ivoks> GLOBALNI NAPAD NA ISIS Još jedan vojni div kreće u zračne udare na Islamsku državu: 'Sad ili nikad, nikako ne smijemo dopustiti da ojačaju!'
[13:00] <ivoks> Autor: Hina
[13:00] <ivoks> pa jebemu mater Hina
[13:00] <ivoks> otkada je velika britanija vojni div?
[13:00] <ivoks> sta ce poslati? volcano ili tornado?
[13:01] <ivoks> avro vulcan
[13:01] <ivoks> nemojte me nasmijavati
[13:04] <SilverSpace> vitaminiziram se šipkom
[13:04] <SilverSpace> tj. narom
[13:05] <Mmike> metalnom sipkom? :)
[13:05] <SilverSpace> http://i1.wp.com/domidizajn.jutarnji.hr/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Creative-Designs-for-Staircase-13.jpg
[13:05] <Mmike> ivoks: zakaj te, reciom, ne zivcira kak je WinSXS bloatano dizajniran i kak je to sve jedno veliko smece? :)
[13:05] <SilverSpace> Mmike: lol
[13:06] <Mmike> SilverSpace: grozim se tih stepenica bez ograde :)
[13:06] <ivoks> Mmike: zato kaj ne znam sto je winsxs niti me zanima
[13:06] <SilverSpace> Mmike: fora su ko bord daska
[13:07] <Mmike> eh
[13:07] <Mmike> da te zanima, objasnio bih ti ja
[13:07] * Mmike i dalje nemre vjerovat u taj debilizam
[13:07] <hbogner> ivoks, pa kaj nisu mislili na kinu, koliko sam cuo i oni krecu
[13:07] <ivoks> http://www.jutarnji.hr/cameron-od-parlamenta-trazi-zracne-udare-na-isis---pogresno-je-da-velika-britanija-prepusti-svoju-sigurnost-drugim-zemljama-/1465536/
[13:08] <ivoks> presmijesno
[13:08] <Mmike> kaj presmijesno?
[13:08] <ivoks> bolje da smo mi isli nego englezi
[13:08] <Mmike> odi na dnevno.hr pa gledaj kaj je smijesno
[13:08] <ivoks> 'engleska, vojna sila'
[13:08] <Mmike> nah, smijesno je kak tebe to sekira :)
[13:08] <ivoks> ne sekira me, smijem se
[13:08] <hbogner> pa englezi imaju sas
[13:08] <ivoks> sas je bio fora kad smo mi imali JNA
[13:09] <ivoks> onda nam se SAS cinio kao 'jebote, specijalci'
[13:09] <Mmike> super agile services
[13:09] <Mmike> zvuci k'o jos neki microsoftov izdrk
[13:09] <ivoks> a sve vojske imaju sas
[13:09] <ivoks> izraleci su tu najbolji
[13:09] <Mmike> ivoks: ajmo na pivo, mosh na pivo u radno vrijeme? :)
[13:09] <ivoks> ne mogu sads
[13:11] <ivoks> trebao bi nesto i raditi danas
[13:18] <SilverSpace> treba delat oruzje
[13:20] <pkiller> u proizvodnji nema para... samo trgovina :)
[14:22] <BotaniCar> ok, skuzio sam dio problema, firefox nije ucitao libeToken.so, dodao sam mu ga i sad vidi token. Sad,pak, imam problem da mi se java applet ne ucitava, uz nemustu gresku "resource not loaded" :)
[14:22] <BotaniCar> *libToken.so
[14:22] <BotaniCar> brijem da je to zbog novog firefoxa koji ne voli ssl :)
[14:23] <BotaniCar> Ima nacina instalirati stari firefox side-by-side s repo verzijom FFa ?
[14:30] <jelly> koliko stari, i kak ne voli ssl? Imas firefox 38.4 ESR
[14:32] <BotaniCar> imam FF42 trenutno i release notesi vele da vise ne jebe sslv3 ni pol posto i da izvolim tls-at :)
[14:32] <BotaniCar> a zabica ribica ima kaj ima ..
[14:32] <jelly> kaj ima?
[14:33] <BotaniCar> ne znam, i ne znam kak vidjet' :)
[14:33] <BotaniCar> u biti, znam : tls 1.2
[14:33] <BotaniCar> tim cudnije ..
[14:35] <BotaniCar> ne znam kaj sam zadnje poslao, pa ponavljam: security.tls.version.min i security.tls.version.max sam podesio na "0" sto bi trebalo znaciti "daj sto das"
[14:35] <SilverSpace> jos to gonjas
[14:35] <jelly> nagradno pitanje je da li applet radi sa zadnjom javom
[14:36] <BotaniCar> jelly: imas talent za postavljanje pitanja na koja je nemoguce odgovoriti :)
[14:36] <BotaniCar> jer, zabaina stranica greske mi veli da maknem sve jave i stavim zadnju, sto sam i ucinio :)=
[14:36] <jelly> zasto, probas javu 7 stavit pa vidi dal radi
[14:36] <BotaniCar> Tak da bi odgovor iz prsta bio "ne podrzava"
[14:37] <jelly> eeee ali orakl vise ne izdaje zakrpe za javu 6 i 7 javno...
[14:38] <BotaniCar> imam osjecaj da oni krpaju taj sjeb jer ZABA govorni automat prije biranja opcija kaze "ako imas novi FF, revertaj na verziju stariji". Pa se bojim da ce mi se desiti da napipam verzije koje rade danas, da bi oni do sutra pokrpali web, pa opet nece raditi :)
[14:38] <BotaniCar> Sveusvem rntam dok cekam povratni poziv korisnicke podrske
[14:42] <SilverSpace> cega :)
[14:43] <jelly> zato ja koristim Firefox ESR pa se s nekompatibilnostima jebem samo svakih 10 mjeseci
[14:49] <BotaniCar> E, to nisam bio siguran da li uopce pitati : koliki je jeb ESR upogoniti na UbuntuJu ?
[14:54] <SilverSpace> http://doktor.jutarnji.hr/recite-nam-svoje-misljenje-je-li-u-redu-odbiti-cijepljenje-djeteta-zato-jer-ce-ga-druga-djeca--koja-su-cijepljena--zastititi-od-zaraze-/1465661/
[14:54] <SilverSpace> koje glupo pitanje
[14:54] <BotaniCar> zasto je to uopce stavka za javnu raspravu ? :)
[14:58] <ivoks> Mmike: pa kaj nije zena zgodna?
[14:58] <ivoks> jos i zna sta prica
[14:59] <jelly> BotaniCar: ne znam za ubuntu, al na debianu sam downloadao tarball i otpakirao i koristio
[15:00] <jelly> dok god je pod tvojim vlasnistvom rade automatski updatei
[15:00] <ivoks> ma nije u tom problem
[15:00] <BotaniCar> finjak, fala !
[15:00] <ivoks> ah, da
[15:00] <ivoks> u biti, da
[15:00] <ivoks> ssl je iskljucen
[15:00] <SilverSpace> http://is.gd/TFzm0R
[15:00] <ivoks> ali na svim browserima na svijetu
[15:00] <ivoks> kaj zaba jos uvijek ovisi o ssl? :)
[15:00] <jelly> nije ssl v3 kriv, nesto drugo je
[15:00] <ivoks> BotaniCar: jesi napravio sto sam ti rekao?
[15:00] <ivoks> velim ti da plugin natrpaju u krivi direktorij
ok, skuzio sam dio problema, firefox nije ucitao libToken.so, dodao sam mu ga i sad vidi token. Sad,pak, imam problem da mi se java applet ne ucitava, uz nemustu gresku "resource not loaded" :)
[15:01] <ivoks> ah, ok
[15:01] <BotaniCar> ivoks: naj zamerit' , bezim po malog u vrtic, nastavljam sutra u 8. Napravio, bilo je kak si rekao.
[15:01] <ivoks> moras imati oracletovu javu
[15:01] <Mmike> ivoks: pa neznam
[15:01] <jelly> jos ak radi sa javom 8
[15:01] <Mmike> mislm, da, ima smisla to kaj prica
[15:02] <Mmike> definitivno
[15:02] <ivoks> a ima i stas
[15:02] <ivoks> :D
[15:02] <Mmike> izgleda mi k'o arapska nives celzijus :)
[15:02] <ivoks> pa di ces bolje :D
[15:04] <Mmike> ne volem to bas :)
[15:04] <Mmike> ja sam vise mrsava-zena lik
[15:04] <ivoks> pa kaj onda za mirkom slinis?
[15:04] <Mmike> lakse se grlimo :)
[15:04] <Mmike> pa nije mirka debela!
[15:04] <Mmike> sram te bilo!
[15:04] <ivoks> ?
[15:04] <ivoks> tko je rekao da je debela?
[15:04] <Mmike> tko je rekao da slinim? :)
[15:04] <ivoks> kaj je nives celzijus debela?
[15:04] <Mmike> aha, ti si rekao :)
[15:04] <Mmike> pa kaj nije?!
[15:04] <Mmike> nives, mislim
[15:04] <Mmike> i ova tvoja arabica
[15:04] <ivoks> pa nije
[15:04] <Mmike> ma je
[15:04] <ivoks> to se zove zena
[15:05] <Mmike> bucika je
[15:05] <ivoks> veli lik od 120kg
[15:05] <ivoks> aj ne tentaj
[15:05] <ivoks> zena je bas bomba
[15:05] <Mmike> ovo je raspra k'o da mi pricas da je cesnjak bolji od persuna :)
[15:06] <ivoks> https://www.facebook.com/KenWebsterJr/videos/1913266932232481/
[15:06] <ivoks> evo, pa vi meni recite
[15:06] <ivoks> jel ta zena debela?
[15:10] <obruT> ima viska kila
[15:12] <ivoks> pfff
[15:12] <ivoks> niste normalni
[15:12] <ivoks> ima viska kilu bas tamo di treba
[15:13] <Mmike> ne
[15:13] <Mmike> ti nisi normalan
[15:13] <Mmike> volis debele zene :)
[15:13] <Mmike> (salu na stranu, voli ti sto zelis, nisi zato nenormalan)
[15:13] <Mmike> netko voli debeljuce, netko voli mrsavice, to je sve normalno
[15:13] <Mmike> netko voli pimpeke
[15:13] <Mmike> a nije zena
[15:13] <Mmike> i to je isto normalno
[15:14] <jelly> ivoks: nije debela, i pametno zbori
[15:14] <Mmike> eto jos jednog sto voli debele zene :)
[15:23] <jelly> ja bi reko da je trenutna norma sta znaci "debelo" daleko nerealna. Nemres prosjecnu figuru iz 1970tih ili 2010tih zvati debelom, kad je prosjecna
[15:23] <jelly> ove ima taman koliko treba :-)
[15:23] <ivoks> ova je bas bomba
[15:23] <ivoks> :)
[15:24] <ivoks> dakako da se ne svidja svima
[15:24] <ivoks> di bi dosli kad bi svi bili isti
[15:24] <ivoks> npr., Mmikeova zena voli debele decke, ocito :)
[15:24] <ivoks> da je nije bilo, sta bi s Mmikeom bilo
[15:25] * obruT nist ne kaze o tome da li mu se zenska svidja ili ne, samo da ima koju kilu viska :) ne mora biti zena kost i koza da bi valjala...
[15:26] <ivoks> u to ime...
[15:26] <ivoks> ...idem doma peglat :)
[15:26] <ivoks> super su mi americki praznici :)
[15:27] <ivoks> tisina, nema nikoga
[15:27] <ivoks> :)
[15:35] <ivoks> novi android je za kujac
[15:35] <ivoks> neupotrebljiv
[15:39] <Mmike> peglat?!
[15:39] <Mmike> kaj, pobogu, peglas
[15:41] <ivoks> kosulje i tak to
[15:47] <obruT> je je, pogledo je snimak ove zenske i napalio se... znamo sto on ide peglat :)
[15:47] <jelly> pft
[15:53] <Mmike> RX bytes:72323126 (72.3 MB) TX bytes:39656218 (39.6 MB)
[15:53] <Mmike> ne kuzim, vec sam 40 minuta na hangoutu
[17:27] <SilverSpace> joj njoki nisu za veceru
[17:32] <Mmike> neg za kaj su?
[17:32] <vileni_> Mmike: jesi apdejtao windowse? :)
[17:36] <Mmike> vileni_: belive me not, jos se apdejtaju
[17:36] <Mmike> probat cu bas veceras i sa win8.1
[17:36] <SilverSpace> Mmike: necu moci zaspati :)
[17:36] <SilverSpace> zuljaju me
[17:37] <SilverSpace> tri vrste gljiva i njoki
[17:37] <Mmike> auuu
[17:39] <Mmike> vileni_: kaj su windows 8.1 k, kn i n?
[17:40] <Mmike> http://blog.bitcollectors.com/adam/2013/03/windows-vista-and-7-n-k-kn-special-editions/
[17:42] <vileni_> Mmike: pojma nemam, to nesto kao home, professional i slicno?
[17:42] <vileni_> sta mene ispitujes za windowse, ja certificirani linuxas
[17:42] <vileni_> :P
[17:42] <SilverSpace> :)
[17:42] <SilverSpace> ludnica u kuci
[17:43] <SilverSpace> od ponedeljka Alf na kockici
[17:43] <Mmike> vileni_: ne :) N su bez media playera, K su bez windows messandzera
[17:43] <SilverSpace> i netjak i mama se vesele
[17:45] <vileni_> bez cega?
[17:45] <vileni_> sta je windows messenger
[17:45] <SilverSpace> Infiniti Q30 dobro izgleda
[17:46] <vileni_> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/messenger/messenger-to-skype
[17:48] <Mmike> vileni_: stajaznam :)
[17:49] <Mmike> "Validating your request. This may take several minutes. "
[17:49] <Mmike> traje vec 7
[17:50] <SilverSpace> :)))) http://is.gd/ntT5cw
[17:50] <SilverSpace> Mmike: windozi uvijek lazu :)
[18:00] <Mmike> meh
[18:08] <Mmike> Validating your request. This may take several minutes.
[18:08] <Mmike> jos uvijek :D
[18:08] <Mmike> mislim da cu refresat
[18:10] <SilverSpace> cekaj :)
[18:13] <Mmike> refreso
[18:13] <Mmike> skidam
[18:21] <vileni_> sto skidas? win8?
[18:33] <Mmike> i win10
[18:33] <Mmike> ocu vjdjetjel' i tamo winupdate ocajan, ili je samo los
[18:35] <vileni_> a mogao bi raditi nesto korisno umjesto gledati kako se apdejtaju windowsi :)
[18:39] <SilverSpace> Mmike: u desetki te nis ni ne pita oces neces updejtat
[18:39] <SilverSpace> samo ti kaze treba restart
[18:54] <CrazyLemon> sve ovisi koju desetku imaš :)
[19:14] <hbogner> o/
[22:04] <Mmike> wat?
[22:04] <Mmike> win8/win10 nema trial?
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[00:10] <pauljw> i see it's going to be a loooong weekend in #ubuntu
[00:10] <daftykins> the winter is definitely bringing the social justice warriors in.
[00:11] <pauljw> yeah... i've noticed
[01:50] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[01:50] <daftykins> g'mornin' sir
[01:50] <daftykins> just got that new Tomb Raider game :O https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ghcu8ifx8cj1htq/AADOrNs0b6FyRdsX8T7nc02ea?dl=0
[01:51] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: how's this for £200 delivered? :) https://www.dropbox.com/s/pb5y567wd9isf6h/lenovo.png?dl=0
[01:51] <lotuspsychje> hey daftykins
[01:52] <lotuspsychje> wow cheap
[01:53] <daftykins> mmm, haswell, 6GB RAM, 1TB HDD - pretty darn good
[01:53] <lotuspsychje> nice lara graphs too :p
[01:55] <lotuspsychje> wonder what the price would be without win and hd :p
[01:56] <daftykins> i did try once or twice to get the refund for not using Windows, but lots of places refused
[01:56] <daftykins> i don't think it'd work out to much really
[01:57] <lotuspsychje> i hope more barebone shops rise in the future :p
[01:58] <SeriouslyLaugh> daftykins that's a fantastic price
[01:59] <daftykins> benefits of having a government with no VAT!
[01:59] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[01:59] <SeriouslyLaugh> first thing i would do is swap that hdd out though. that'll be your biggest botleneck.
[02:00] <SeriouslyLaugh> that or the nic -- grab an 802.11ac nic
[02:00] <OerHeks> kill that realtek nic indeed
[02:00] <daftykins> that depends who is going to end up getting it really
[02:01] <daftykins> i could easily make £50 back by just selling it on as-is, maybe with a clean install so it actually gets the performance the hardware can give
[02:01] <lotuspsychje> would work fine on winblows indeed
[02:02] <daftykins> the person i bought that 27" 2560x1440 £160 LCD for could probably use this machine
[02:02] <daftykins> haswell would drive that res fine over HDMI
[02:04] <SeriouslyLaugh> i'm not really a gamer, so there is no appeal for me in anything over 1080p at the moment
[02:04] <SeriouslyLaugh> not until they start mass producing 4k content
[02:04] <SeriouslyLaugh> films, that is
[02:04] <daftykins> it's not anything to do with gaming in the slightest, it's for a guy to see CAD drawings in better detail
[02:04] <SeriouslyLaugh> ah yes -- awesome
[02:04] <daftykins> :)
[02:05] <lotuspsychje> cant get any cheaper then this for sure
[02:05] <lotuspsychje> good deal
[02:08] <daftykins> should've seen my face, i only visited amazon quickly to check the days deals
[02:08] <daftykins> :>
[02:10] <lotuspsychje> :p
[02:41] <pauljw> gnite all
[02:46] <lotuspsychje> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvRrXZyzny8
[02:47] <lotuspsychje> i wonder how system76 deals with 15.05 to 15.10 black screen upgrades
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> and will they put xenial on their machines in april?
[02:51] <OerHeks> i still wonder why the fix is not out ..
[02:51] <lotuspsychje> wich fix OerHeks
[02:52] <OerHeks> for that ati + 15.10 black screenissue
[02:52] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[02:52] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: ive read that the new amdgpu is bit dissapointing also
[02:52] <lotuspsychje> not getting the performance they promised
[02:53] <OerHeks> oh
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> lemme find link
[02:55] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: http://www.pcworld.com/article/3008622/linux/amds-radeon-software-crimson-doesnt-live-up-to-the-hype-on-linux.html
[02:55] <SeriouslyLaugh> wow, that was a scathing review lotuspsychje
[02:56] <SeriouslyLaugh> looks like junk
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> says phoronix benchmark
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> so should be trusted right?
[02:58] <lotuspsychje> maybe we should wait the real field experiences also
[02:58] <OerHeks> oh .. the performance changes were regressions
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> well the good thing is things are moving
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> they might actually do some more work on it :p
[03:20] <lotuspsychje> hey cfhowlett
[03:20] <cfhowlett> yowza ^2 lotuspsychje
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> grmbl
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> so much confusing on users on upgrades
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> they all think newer is better
[03:28] <cfhowlett> the download sites clearly state "LTS recommended" - or at least Ubuntustudio does. I consider the interim releases to be "test versions" but that conflicts with the official narrative.
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> yeah i have same opinion
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: i was discussin earlier system76 machines with 15.04, wondering how they would deal with upgrade to 15.10 black screens and such
[03:30] <cfhowlett> did/do they offer a working solution?
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> not on their site they dont
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> so and what will they do on april? put xenial on their boxes or not? im curious
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> i would be affraid to put non-lts on mass user machines
[03:32] <cfhowlett> I submit for consideration: OEMs should ONLY LTS versions.
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> agree
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> checkout system76 unboxing youtubes
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> they preload ubuntu in a setup screen==>language/location/name==>15.04
[03:35] <daftykins> it is pretty shocking how they don't learn the LTS difference, definitely a case of youngsters not reading the website imo
[03:36] <daftykins> though i think the difference is a lot more hidden than it used to be
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> well its really a 'latest' thing
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> ppl always turn themselfs crazy on latest
[03:36] <daftykins> *nod*
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> in april, everyone gonna get crazy on xenial too
[03:37] <daftykins> the ones that want to install the latest kernel from kernel.org drive me crazy :P
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> thinking its latest :p
[03:37] <daftykins> "but the numer is bigger!"
[03:37] <daftykins> *number
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> yeah i dont messa round with mainline
[03:37] <cfhowlett> new distro release: Ubuntu4Idiots: the linux that protects the user from ... the user
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> haha
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> oh by the way xenial gonna get 4.4 kernel
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: a guest distro :p
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> wouldnt be such a bad idea actually!
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> hide the admin from lightdm.conf
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> and only guest allowed lol
[03:40] <cfhowlett> kiosk mode only
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[03:40] <cfhowlett> that's actually not a terrible idea!
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> cant mess up, and cleanup after logout!
[03:40] <cfhowlett> Nubuntu: ubuntu for Noobs!
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> wahahaha
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> Nubuntu 17.04 'Naive Noob'
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: one day you will hit the jackpot with your ideas :p
[03:45] <cfhowlett> for sure.
i relly hate the way windows 10 has gone it has given me good reason to explore linux as an alternative
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> these are the lines i wanna read every day!!!
[04:27] <cfhowlett> yeah, but somehow he wound up with zorin ...
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> yeah, how are we gonna promote ubuntu best :p
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> they all come to mint or zorin or nubuntu heh
[04:31] <SeriouslyLaugh> lotuspsychje i think that user might be a troll. they PMed me
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> maybe we should create a blog, mentioning ubuntu is the best of all distro's
[04:31] <SeriouslyLaugh> fwiw
[04:31] * lotuspsychje hands over the magic troll potion to SeriouslyLaugh
[04:31] <cfhowlett> I would but I hate to get into the religious debates about "LINUX" "GNU" etc, etc
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> d21anthony: welcome mate
[04:32] <SeriouslyLaugh> honestly I use a spin of ubuntu, not ubuntu itself. but a lot of users of that distro have most of their troubles with upstream stuff
[04:32] <d21anthony> Hey there!
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> what spin SeriouslyLaugh
[04:32] <SeriouslyLaugh> elementary OS
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> not bad
[04:33] <cfhowlett> *HERETIC!*
[04:33] <SeriouslyLaugh> by troubles i just mean general linux questions
[04:33] <SeriouslyLaugh> like 'will this app run on elementary OS'
[04:33] * cfhowlett looks around for tar and feathers ...
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> :p
[04:33] <SeriouslyLaugh> and i'm like...if it'll run on Ubuntu it'll run on elementary OS
[04:33] <SeriouslyLaugh> so i've been lurking here for the past few days to get a feel for the ubuntu community
[04:34] <d21anthony> Is there anyone using 15.10 out there?
[04:34] <SeriouslyLaugh> helping where i can
[04:34] <cfhowlett> so random question: why are you in #ubuntu not in #elementary???
[04:34] <SeriouslyLaugh> i'm in #elementary
[04:34] <SeriouslyLaugh> it's a graveyard
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> d21anthony: im sticking to LTS
[04:34] <d21anthony> I installed it to see if there was some new jazz for unity - but nothing impressive
[04:35] <SeriouslyLaugh> which kernel does 15.10 ship with? is it above 4 yet?
[04:35] <SeriouslyLaugh> or 3.19ish
[04:35] <d21anthony> yeah I think it's 3.19
[04:36] <SeriouslyLaugh> ok
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic
[04:37] <d21anthony> I lied, 4.2.0-18-generic
[04:37] <d21anthony> just did a uname -r
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[04:37] <SeriouslyLaugh> there ya go
[04:38] <d21anthony> they must have updated recently. Because I had to update vagrant recently
[04:39] <d21anthony> so here's a some what noob question but curious to hear others opinions. How long do you wait to update to the newest LTS (16.04) after it's been released
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> d21anthony: april 2016 officially
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> !xenial
[04:40] <cfhowlett> d21anthony, I wait for the first point release, i.e. 16.04.1
[04:40] <d21anthony> I usually try to wait 6 mo's but is that over cautions
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> d21anthony: but you can test already now also, and help solving bugs also
[04:40] <SeriouslyLaugh> 0day all the way
[04:40] <cfhowlett> but while waiting, I put the 16.04 in a virtualbox
[04:40] <SeriouslyLaugh> ^
[04:41] <SeriouslyLaugh> in a VM
[04:41] <d21anthony> gotcha
[04:41] <daftykins> SeriouslyLaugh: community? well there is one vs. elementary ;)
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> im running it in developer version daily build and its already rock stable
[04:41] <d21anthony> The wierd thing about 16 is the unity 8 versus unity 7 adjustment capability
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> d21anthony: unity8 will come on 16.10
[04:42] <SeriouslyLaugh> daftykins amen
[04:42] <d21anthony> is there really any difference from a user desktop perspective?
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> d21anthony: unity8 is still being worked on for desktop
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> d21anthony: not yet to say, where this will end
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> ive tested unity8 on xenial and still looks like the phone version
[04:44] <d21anthony> Are you tesing in vm enviroments
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> d21anthony: no, physical on my desktop pc
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> d21anthony: works like a charm already :p
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> d21anthony: but things can still break in this stage right
[04:45] <d21anthony> is there any common packages that don't work in your current enviroment
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> d21anthony: i only do this for testing and help bugging out
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> d21anthony: not on my system yet
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> d21anthony: just found 1 bug that been hunting me on all ubuntu versions so
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> nothinng really xenial specific
[04:47] <d21anthony> interesting. I'll have to test it out on one of my dud boxes
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> d21anthony: yes please do
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> got libreoffice5 and newest firefox
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> !info firefox xenial
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> !info firefox
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> ah they all on 42 now
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> good
[04:51] <d21anthony> It's kinda funny cuz I was die hard Firefox for years, then chrome had the awesome dev suite integrated and now I'm back on firefox. Chrome was bugging out for a while on 15.04 and crashed the whole os forcing a hard boot. :(
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> d21anthony: use LTS for stable experience :p
[04:54] <d21anthony> Firefox / mozilla released a propaganda email or some splash page with the general jist that they aren't collecting all your info for big data. I'm assuming thumbing their noses at Chrome
[04:54] <d21anthony> Open source it is
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> chromium here also :p
[04:55] <SeriouslyLaugh> firefox is weaved into gnome very nicely as well
[04:55] <SeriouslyLaugh> the smooth scrolling is great, and lots of features
[04:55] <SeriouslyLaugh> but i'm a chrome user
[04:55] <SeriouslyLaugh> at this point it's purely out of habit
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> well with adobe flash dying on linux
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> something will happen for sure
[04:56] <SeriouslyLaugh> microsoft edge is actually quite beautiful
[04:56] <d21anthony> yeah the dev tools are still a little bit better. But I really dig Firefox's mobile emulator
[04:56] <SeriouslyLaugh> as soon as they allow addons that will probably gain traction
[04:57] <d21anthony> Edge is gaining traction. I wonder if there'll ever be a port for that on linux :)
[04:57] <d21anthony> maybe wine it
[05:02] <SeriouslyLaugh> do you guys typically provide support for desktop environments outside of unity, or do you typically defer users to other channels?
[05:03] <SeriouslyLaugh> like if someone had a question about ubuntu gnome, would we send them away?
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> SeriouslyLaugh: we have #ubuntu-gnome yes
[05:03] <SeriouslyLaugh> great, thanks
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> no answer there, they can always come back
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> we try to make the dead channels back alive again
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> otherwise #ubuntu will be a mess with specific issues from all flavors and windowmanagers
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> !flavors
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> but also #i3 and such
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> SeriouslyLaugh: the way i do, is check if specific channel exists
[05:06] <SeriouslyLaugh> good idea
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> SeriouslyLaugh: small channel cant help much right
[05:07] <d21anthony> hmmm - I've never heard of Studio ubuntu before
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> then we have ##hardware #netfilter ##networking ##httpd #openssh to redirect users
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> d21anthony: its an ubuntu music station flavor
[05:09] <d21anthony> huh, it looks pretty cool.
[05:10] <d21anthony> Wish I had time to jump down every rabbit hole I find
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> it sure is, but you can grab those music apps on regular ubuntu also
[05:11] <SeriouslyLaugh> yeah it's a weird distro
[05:12] <SeriouslyLaugh> in that it appears to be a collection of applications
[05:12] <SeriouslyLaugh> as opposed to something like Deepin, which is an entirely fresh spin on the entire concept of a desktop environment
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> i like vanilla ubuntu best
[05:13] <SeriouslyLaugh> seriously you guys should try Deepin OS in a virtual machine and just play with the settings panel
[05:13] <SeriouslyLaugh> it's remarkable
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> SeriouslyLaugh: im too addicted to unity :p
[05:13] <SeriouslyLaugh> the website and installer is full of broken english but i've never seen an OS like that before
[05:14] <SeriouslyLaugh> all of the system settings can be changed via a notifications-like area, similar to Windows 10
[05:16] <d21anthony> Deepin's got a dock station out of the box. That's pretty cool. I'm running a version of lubuntu (KDE) it's definitely not as user friendly as unity
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> http://www.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-16-04-64bit-Development-branch-568865930
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> my xenial box
[05:17] <d21anthony> nice
[05:18] <d21anthony> what is the app with the x - an upgraded x chat?
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> !info hexchat
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> d21anthony: xchat is not maintained anymore
[05:20] <d21anthony> really.... oops.. :) it's still a fine piece of software. I'll have to upgrade apparently
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> not upgrade, purge xchat and install hexchat
[05:20] <d21anthony> right on
[05:21] <d21anthony> I love the system monitor for the tool bar - it's a life savor for the ocd
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> d21anthony: alot of nice stuff exist: search your terminal with apt-cache search indicator
[05:23] <daftykins> why are we talking about all the silly ubuntu derivative distros? :)
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> the new guys love them :p
[05:24] <SeriouslyLaugh> well someone asked about ubuntu studio in the main channel
[05:24] <SeriouslyLaugh> and i got lost in Deepin's dreamy eyes
[05:24] <SeriouslyLaugh> it calls me like a siren
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:24] * lotuspsychje slap SeriouslyLaugh back to reality
[05:25] <daftykins> it'll have you smash up on some rocks like a Siren, too
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> haha
[05:25] <SeriouslyLaugh> heh
[05:45] <d21anthony> lotuspsychje: aptoncd is freak'n awesome
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> !yay | d21anthony
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> im im off to spa sauna jacuzzi
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> have a nice one all!
[06:02] <daftykins> :O
[06:02] <daftykins> where's our invite :(
[06:05] <OerHeks> the cake is in the oven.
[06:08] <daftykins> ooh what kind?
[06:10] <OerHeks> just a yellow one, nothing special
[06:10] <OerHeks> full creamy butter, not that pseudobutter stuff
[06:10] <OerHeks> those make you fat
[06:11] <daftykins> :D
[06:22] <OerHeks> cake is now double height ..
[06:23] <OerHeks> nom nom nom
[06:31] <daftykins> it's growing!
[06:35] <OerHeks> nearly tripple height now, it should not rise any further ..
[07:09] <OerHeks> cake is born, needs to cool down for an hour ..expected lifetime one hour ..
[07:09] <OerHeks> .. why wait, ehh?
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:45] <pauljw> hi
[12:54] <BluesKaj> hi pauljw
[12:55] <pauljw> :)
[13:31] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[13:36] <lotus|xenial> good afternoon to all
[13:37] <EriC^^> hey lotus|xenial
[13:37] <EriC^^> how's it going?
[13:38] <lotus|xenial> hey EriC^^
[13:38] <lotus|xenial> all fine here mate
[13:38] <lotus|xenial> checking xenial updates
[13:38] <EriC^^> cool
[13:39] <lotus|xenial> EriC^^: i was also testing out unity8/mir on xenial the other day
[13:39] <EriC^^> how is it?
[13:39] <lotus|xenial> EriC^^: still looks like the phone model, but already nice
[13:39] <lotus|xenial> EriC^^: desktop version is being worked on
[13:40] <EriC^^> oh ok
[13:40] <EriC^^> cool
[13:40] <EriC^^> 16.04 will have unity 8?
[13:40] <lotus|xenial> EriC^^: no, 16.10
[13:40] <EriC^^> oh ok
[13:40] <lotus|xenial> xenial will have unity7 and kernel 4.4
[13:41] <lotus|xenial> already rockstable here (for now) :p
[13:42] <EriC^^> cool :D
[13:45] <EriC^^> lotus|xenial: any idea about satellite receiver stuff?
[13:46] <lotus|xenial> EriC^^: very little but do ask :p
[13:46] <EriC^^> the thing in front of the satellite dish seems to be bad, i removed it today it's like a round thing with 2 plugs
[13:47] <EriC^^> i dunno, it has to be replaced? or can i give it a smack with a hammer or something and it'll work again? haha
[13:47] <lotus|xenial> EriC^^: how do you know its bad?
[13:48] <lotus|xenial> 2 heads should be pretty strong
[13:48] <EriC^^> it's similar to this http://i00.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/1086584104_3/Satellite-TV-box-AML8726-M3-Support-CVBS-DVB-AV-LAN-WIFI-Android-4-0-Satellite-TV.jpg
[13:48] <EriC^^> it's the while thing to the right with a plug at the bottom
[13:48] <EriC^^> *white
[13:48] <lotus|xenial> ah one head and 2 screws right?
[13:48] <EriC^^> it's the same almost, but with 2 plugs at the bottom
[13:49] <EriC^^> yeah
[13:49] <lotus|xenial> how do you know its bad?
[13:49] <EriC^^> well satellite stopped working on both tv's
[13:49] <EriC^^> it's 2 different wires coming down, and 2 receivers
[13:49] <lotus|xenial> EriC^^: did the dish move with the wind?
[13:50] <BluesKaj> its called a LNB EriC^^ , check it out with the dish maker on google
[13:50] <lotus|xenial> EriC^^: or does the model auto-turn?
[13:50] <EriC^^> i dont think so, it looked pretty screwed on tight
[13:50] <EriC^^> nope no auto-turn i think
[13:50] <lotus|xenial> it doesnt need much, to be out of range
[13:50] <EriC^^> the white thing did have a degree setting thing, but i don't think it has moved it was fastened tight
[13:50] <EriC^^> BluesKaj: ok, thanks
[13:50] <lotus|xenial> normally those dishes are pretty rough
[13:51] <lotus|xenial> i would think contact of a cable?
[13:51] <EriC^^> well the cables kind of fell off when i moved them, but i tried to put both inside well and same thing
[13:52] <lotus|xenial> EriC^^: tv shows nothing?
[13:52] <EriC^^> maybe i should go to the roof and try to move the white thing and dish maybe and plugs and somebody sees if the tv shows something
[13:52] <EriC^^> yeah, no signal
[13:52] <BluesKaj> I use a bell tv dish with 2LNBs , one for each satellite, and HiDef service
[13:53] <lotus|xenial> i dont think its the dish or head, but could be wrong
[13:53] <lotus|xenial> those things are pretty rough
[13:53] <BluesKaj> seems like your cable connectors are kaput
[13:53] <lotus|xenial> yeah
[13:53] <BluesKaj> lotus|xenial, you mean tough
[13:55] <BluesKaj> well gotta go ...vehicle needs servicing for the winter ... BBL
[13:55] <lotus|xenial> kk
[13:55] <lotus|xenial> EriC^^: check if the cable/connectors are wet from rain?
[13:55] <EriC^^> i'll try to fasten them in
[13:55] <EriC^^> brb
[13:56] <lotus|xenial> kk
[14:01] <EriC^^> well, that didn't go too well
[14:01] <EriC^^> i fastened one, the other one i tried to put without the round tighten thingy and i broke the wire
[14:01] <EriC^^> lol, let me see if one of the tv's work though
[14:01] <lotus|xenial> ok
[14:05] <EriC^^> nope, not working
[14:05] <lotus|xenial> hmm
[14:05] <EriC^^> i guess it's a bad head thing
[14:05] <lotus|xenial> did you guys have rain recently?
[14:05] <EriC^^> cause it stopped suddenly one day
[14:06] <EriC^^> nah i think when it stopped it was raining
[14:06] <lotus|xenial> you could go test the dish as whole somewhere else
[14:07] <EriC^^> oh wait, im an idiot
[14:07] <EriC^^> i didnt put the wire thing in the receiver when checking it on the 2nd tv
[14:08] <lotus|xenial> :p
[14:09] <EriC^^> nope still nothing
[14:10] <lotus|xenial> EriC^^: tested card in and out>?
[14:10] <lotus|xenial> or you dont have satelite card?
[14:10] <EriC^^> nope no satellite card
[14:10] <lotus|xenial> ok
[14:10] <lotus|xenial> plugout power cable from satelite?
[14:11] <EriC^^> i didnt think it had a power cable?
[14:11] <EriC^^> the actual satellite has a power cable?
[14:11] <EriC^^> or you mean the receiver in the room?
[14:11] <lotus|xenial> the receiver sorry
[14:11] <EriC^^> oh ok
[14:11] <EriC^^> yeah, it's not working, no signal
[14:12] <EriC^^> it loads up fine and stuff then says no signal
[14:12] <lotus|xenial> if it auto turns, it will be hardware thing
[14:13] <lotus|xenial> cables,dish or head
[14:13] <lotus|xenial> if no rain entered cables or connectors, probably the head
[14:22] <lotus|xenial> EriC^^: you didnt touch 'source' button of tv?
[14:22] <EriC^^> yeah i did
[14:22] <EriC^^> apparently lnb's go bad pretty often
[14:22] <lotus|xenial> doublecheck if its still on sattelite instead of hmdi2
[14:22] <EriC^^> http://freesatfix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60488
[14:23] <EriC^^> it's on satellite for sure, it loads up the logo then it says no signal ( not the tv the receiver's text thing )
[14:23] <lotus|xenial> kk
[14:24] <lotus|xenial> how old is that dish?
[14:24] <EriC^^> good thing i got the thread though, it says you shouldn't unhook or hook cables with the stb powered on ( i think stb is receiver? )
[14:24] <EriC^^> cause it can make a spike in the lnb and it wont work anymore
[14:25] <lotus|xenial> EriC^^: http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/no_satellite_signal.htm
[14:25] <lotus|xenial> looks like a good troubleshoot
[14:26] <lotus|xenial> make sure cables and connectors arents damaged or corroded like on that link
[14:36] <lotus|xenial> bbl good luck EriC^^
[14:57] <TJ-> EriC^^: fixed your LNB issue yet?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> looks to me like he needs new cables, my LNBs are over 10yrs old and still work fine.
[15:01] <TJ-> First thing I always check is there's 19.5V DC present on the set-top box's antenna socket when its powered up
[15:02] <BluesKaj> most have a rg59 connector on them, depending where he's located
[15:02] <TJ-> then, connect the cable but leave the LNB disconnected, and check that 19.5V is present at the cable end at the dish.
[15:03] <TJ-> if you've got the power at the LNB, and it doesn't operate, then open up the LNB and check the diodes
[15:04] <BluesKaj> some are sealed , not easy to access the electronics
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: any more luck?
[15:04] <TJ-> The 'LNB' is actually a frequency down-converter, from the very high frequency, very low power, satellite signal (which frequency would radiate and attenuate along the coax run to the STB, down to a frequency that is optimum for the type of cable
[15:05] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: nope
[15:05] <TJ-> BluesKaj: crack 'em open, there's always a way
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> hi TJ- and BluesKaj
[15:05] * TJ- waves soggily
[15:06] <EriC^^> TJ-: i'll get the lnb
[15:06] <EriC^^> and give it a good whack
[15:06] <EriC^^> i told lotus hammer first he said check other stuff
[15:06] <EriC^^> :p
[15:07] <TJ-> There's not much to go wrong in it, it's essential a tuned circuit and a power regulator, usually taking the 19.5V to 5V
[15:08] <TJ-> I have custom converters made in China for my Wifi interference scanners; down-convert 2.4GHx or 5.4/8GHx to 450MHz
[15:09] <BluesKaj> here the volyage is determined by the polarization of the transponder signal. either 19v dc or 13v dc
[15:10] <EriC^^> well there's no white spots on it
[15:11] <TJ-> right, usually defaults to 19.5V (18V nominal) for horizontal
[15:12] <EriC^^> screws are pretty rusted
[15:12] <BluesKaj> anyway the only drawback to dish users is rainfade which happens only few times/yr around here...the local cable co's picture and res leaves a lot to be desired vs our bell sat service
[15:12] <EriC^^> on the fastener thing
[15:12] * EriC^^ gets some wd-40
[15:12] <TJ-> EriC^^: spray with some degreaser
[15:13] <TJ-> Eric I once found the reason for loss of signal was a family of spiders took up residence in the horn, completely obscuring the focal point
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: you dont think the head is lbn is dead neither?
[15:13] <BluesKaj> hi lotuspsychje , what's up ?
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: updated xenial packages, all working fine still
[15:13] <BluesKaj> good
[15:14] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: if it is, they're generally pretty easy to fix. Usual issue is the power regulator circuit, zener diodes sometimes
[15:14] <EriC^^> damn wd-40 is in the car
[15:14] <EriC^^> these things are really, really rusted on
[15:14] <BluesKaj> quite stable here on plasma 5.4.2 as well
[15:14] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: nice1
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: xenial gonna have 4.4 kernel
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> and unity7
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> 16.10 unity8
[15:15] <BluesKaj> yes I'm favourably impressed so far, fewer probs than Wily
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: we getting alot of black screens and acpi issues on both wily and vivid
[15:16] <BluesKaj> not so much with the W10 update :-) ...wife wants to stah=y with W7
[15:16] <BluesKaj> or upgrade rather
[15:17] <BluesKaj> stay even
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> but in one year they wont support w7 anymore
[15:17] <EriC^^> got the screws off
[15:17] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, are those gpu driver issues with mir?
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: not sure what messes up exactly, alot of recent drivers seems to fail
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: reverting to older graphics driver helps
[15:19] <BluesKaj> ok , regression works sometimes
[15:19] <EriC^^> if i shake it i can hear like sand inside it or something
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: clean it all out mate
[15:20] <TJ-> EriC^^: could be the remains of a blown component
[15:20] <EriC^^> TJ-: do i just use a flat head to remove the white ceramic looking head thing
[15:20] <BluesKaj> EriC^^, what about your dish provider customer support, they should fix that problem for free
[15:21] <TJ-> EriC^^: There are a lot of different fixing methods. I generally make sure the thing is warmed up and pliable (hair dryer helps that), and use a strong blade like in a box-cutter to work the thing loose without breaking anything.
[15:22] <TJ-> Generally you can deduce whether glue was used on it or its a tight friction fit, or else internal clips
[15:22] <EriC^^> holy fuck
[15:23] <EriC^^> i pulled both sides with my hands after using the flat head for a while
[15:23] <EriC^^> then it just exploded into 2 pieces
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:23] <EriC^^> anyways there's nothing inside! just a metal
[15:25] <EriC^^> a metal box
[15:25] <TJ-> EriC^^: someone stole the antenna?
[15:26] <EriC^^> no i mean theres a metal box but you can't open it
[15:26] <TJ-> there must be a PCB at the socket end
[15:26] <EriC^^> it's like cast
[15:26] <EriC^^> there's a shiny thing in the middle, but it has rally hard glue around it
[15:26] <TJ-> Ahhh, can you see where the join is?
[15:26] <TJ-> EriC^^: at this point photos would be good :)
[15:29] <EriC^^> http://imgur.com/4TflEvC
[15:29] <EriC^^> it's pretty oxidized on the inside
[15:30] <EriC^^> looks like it was found on the titanic
[15:30] <lotuspsychje> yeah oxidized
[15:30] <BluesKaj> it's cooked then
[15:31] <TJ-> EriC^^: that might be the explanation for the issue - that is likely spread into the inside via the connectors
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> watched to many aljazeera EriC^^
[15:31] <EriC^^> nah the connectors are pretty clean
[15:32] <TJ-> EriC^^: those types usually need some heat to open up. Can you tell if there's solder used or is it waxed in?
[15:32] <EriC^^> the oxidation is mostly at the white tip thing, i noticed the sounds are coming from that area when i shake it though
[15:33] <EriC^^> looks like it's white glue around it
[15:33] <EriC^^> should i try removing the white tip?
[15:33] <TJ-> see if warming ut up makes it pliable.. also, can you cut a small piece away with a knife?
[15:34] <TJ-> EriC^^: tip? do you mean the horn cover? no... all the electronics is confined to the box. The antenna will be at the "AK-3" end of the feed horn
[15:37] <EriC^^> i removed the connector plugs
[15:38] <EriC^^> i think i screwed up though, i heard a snap and when i removed them they had some solder on the end
[15:38] <EriC^^> removed most of the glue but it wont budge
[15:39] <EriC^^> ill try a hairdryer and more man handling
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> irc repair café :p
[15:44] <EriC^^> i removed the glue but it's not holding it together though
[15:45] <EriC^^> anyways i removed the horn cover TJ- , it had a bunch of white powder inside which was oxidation i think
[15:45] <EriC^^> the horn inside has some oxidation too, then it looks like there's 2 stainless steel rods way inside at the end, i've no idea how they got the pcb inside though,
[15:50] <EriC^^> TJ-: i cracked it open
[15:53] <EriC^^> http://imgur.com/1uGOGqj
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> lets hope no humidity entered on that board EriC^^
[15:54] <EriC^^> removed the screws, there's nothing that seems to be fried inside
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> ok
[15:56] <EriC^^> imgur.com/nj8BHW3A
[15:56] <EriC^^> http://imgur.com/nj8BHW3A
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> wrong link?
[15:59] <EriC^^> http://i.imgur.com/nj8BHW3.jpg
[15:59] <EriC^^> maybe i should check the other side
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> looks rather good
[16:00] <BluesKaj> connctors look corroded
[16:03] <TJ-> That's a good photo
[16:04] <EriC^^> wow on the other side there are 2 actual elements of the circuit that have rust on them
[16:04] <TJ-> was that screwed down part a heatsink?
[16:04] <EriC^^> i pushed them a little and they broke off the pcb
[16:04] <TJ-> EriC^^: uhoh... photos or it didn't happen :)
[16:05] <EriC^^> TJ-: it looked like it had 2 hex screws that adjust something, they put pressure on these white ceramic type pieces under them
[16:05] <BluesKaj> must live in a city...out here in the boonies there's cleaner air I guess
[16:05] <TJ-> EriC^^: ahhh, tuning coils likely
[16:06] <BluesKaj> bbl
[16:07] <TJ-> one of the problems with sealed units, if they've air inside rather than an inert gas, is condensation forms, and that causes rust unless the parts are wax sealed
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> oldskool wax for modern technology
[16:09] <TJ-> or lacquer, anything to stop condensation on the metalised parts
[16:09] <TJ-> I like using pastidip
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> good idea
[16:09] <TJ-> Plastidip, even
[16:09] <TJ-> mmmm pasti
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> lol
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> shhh dont wake the doggies
[16:11] <TJ-> haha! They got a massive scolding earlier on so they're behaving right now. Had just washed the kitchen floor and was out using the pressure washer in the yard. Came back to find 1 of them had opened the door and they'd trailed mud in - I was not a happy chappy!
[16:11] <TJ-> This new RasPi Zero looks really neat. Amazing, and on the front cover of the magazine too
[16:13] <EriC^^> http://imgur.com/z6u073r
[16:14] <EriC^^> those are the 2 rusted parts that fell off
[16:17] <EriC^^> now to put it together so the guy at the shop doesn't go wtf when i ask for a part like that one :D
[16:20] <TJ-> are they actually components, or spacers?
[16:22] <TJ-> EriC^^: they may be graphite spacers (conductive). What did they connect? It may be cleaning them and the pads they sit on to make contact will solve the problem, if you saw rust there
[16:22] <TJ-> EriC^^: if those parts were connecting the input terminals to the PCB that'd be very likely
[16:23] <EriC^^> they were not next to the plugs, sort of up one to the right and one to the left
[16:23] <EriC^^> anyways i threw the parts and put the plastic cover on
[16:23] <TJ-> are they conductive?
[16:23] <EriC^^> it was a fun learning experience though
[16:24] <EriC^^> hmm i dunno i dont have a multimeter, i'd guess so though
[16:24] <EriC^^> the upper plate had some odd metal stuff on the edges i noticed
[16:24] <EriC^^> and they were really rusted
[16:25] <EriC^^> ( the plate that had the tuning screws )
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/first-unity-8-custom-theme-is-being-built-496759.shtml#sgal_0
[17:51] <pauljw> cool
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> thats how untiy8 looks like now
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> wb EriC^^
[18:07] <EriC^^> thx
[20:13] <BluesKaj> Xenial at one point was taking only 20csecs to boot, but now it's up to 2mins, anyone else have this problem
[20:15] <Bashing-om> BluesKaj: Time to examine the logs and see what the gaps in time are ?
[20:16] <BluesKaj> Bashing-om, i chjecked , there doesn't seem to be anything that sticks out
[20:18] <Bashing-om> BluesKaj: Humm .. boot to terminal and watch the boot messages ?? - I can stop the disaplay on my system - .
[20:18] <ioria> hi all
[20:19] <Bashing-om> \o ioria ; better now that you are here .
[20:20] <ioria> Bashing-om, i'm flattered !!!! ^_^ i followed a lot of your articles on the ubuntu forum ....
[20:21] <Bashing-om> ioria: Has been a bumpy road .. :) ; I make more errors in logic than I care to openly admitt .
[20:22] <ioria> Bashing-om, :þ
[20:27] <BluesKaj> checked the syslog , seems /etc/resolv.conf and network manager are correcting each other several times before the internet gets cconnected, some kind silly loop thing
[20:35] <Bashing-om> BluesKaj: I have not used network-manager in ages .. not much use to you here .
[20:36] <BluesKaj> well, i need nm for vpn
[20:36] <BluesKaj> otherwise I'd use a staic IP and /etc/network/interfaces to do the job
[20:37] <BluesKaj> Bashing-om,^
[20:38] <Bashing-om> BluesKaj: VPN adds another level of complexity . What results when VPN is not started ?
[20:45] <BluesKaj> vpn isn't in the system startup, i use it only when anonymity is needed
[23:27] * daftykins rolls his eyes at what is presumably London street talk
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[00:00] <frank1e> anyway i get it... thanks anyway
[00:00] <drown> elementary uses a custom terminal i beleive
[00:00] <daftykins> LambdaComplex: it's a nice underlining of why not to use it.
[00:00] <LambdaComplex> frank1e: go look up how to set colors for whatever terminal emulator you have
[00:00] <drown> elementary has a community
[00:01] <daftykins> that'd be off topic, drown
[00:01] <drown> ugh
[00:01] <frank1e> looks like it's Pantheon if I did research it right
[00:01] <drown> correct
[00:02] <drown> well pantheon is actually the DE
[00:02] <daftykins> please take it to the right channel folks.
[00:02] <daftykins> or PM, just somewhere not here.
[00:02] <LambdaComplex> daftykins: you seem insanely obsessive about offtopic stuff
[00:02] <drown> they always are.
[00:02] <tgm4883> LambdaComplex: it's distracting
[00:02] <LambdaComplex> "they?"
[00:02] <daftykins> gotta keep the channel clear for relevant topics
[00:03] <drown> "those who condemn it"
[00:03] <frank1e> jesus.
[00:03] <tgm4883> condemned with good reason
[00:03] <daftykins> you can either prove yourself the troll by trying to argue it, or just grow up and take the discussion to the places they belong... quite simple really
[00:05] <SlidingHorn> There's always #ubunu-offtopic for those things :)
[00:07] <jedininjarob> hey i got the xdotool working but the last key press isnt working the ctrl+q for quit wont engage??? any ideas paste here>>>> http://pastebin.com/dnnG7iC8
[00:07] <LambdaComplex> "if you disagree with me then you're a troll" nice
[00:08] <LambdaComplex> jedininjarob: maybe ctrl+shift+q would work?
[00:08] <jedininjarob> ok ill try
[00:08] <tgm4883> LambdaComplex: It's the channel rules.
[00:08] <LambdaComplex> i can't remember how xdotool works exactly but it's worth a shot :P
[00:08] <k1l> LambdaComplex: daftykins its more than enough now. if there are any questions about what should be topic in here see the guidelines or ask in #ubuntu-ops . thanks
[00:09] <jedininjarob> nope doesnt work
[00:10] <jedininjarob> lamers suaces
[00:10] <jedininjarob> ill try another call to it see if that works
[00:12] <Extreminador> sudo apt-get install mysecureshell
[00:12] <Extreminador> unable to locate package mysecureshell
[00:13] <k1l> Extreminador: its included since 15.04 in ubuntu
[00:13] <Extreminador> k1l ahh i see
[00:13] <Extreminador> so the sftp is as well ?
[00:16] <Extreminador> ohh i have the 14 one
[00:16] <Extreminador> i installed this 3 days ago
[00:16] <Extreminador> 14.04 LTS
[00:26] <pheonix99work> Hey guys, quick question. Anyone know if it's safe to upgrade to 15.10 with proprietary amd drivers without any work arounds?
[00:26] <pheonix99work> upgrading 15
[00:26] <pheonix99work> 15.04 to 15.10*
[00:26] <daftykins> remove first
[00:27] <pheonix99work> remove the driver, upgrade, install driver?
[00:27] <daftykins> and all PPAs, as per usual advice :)
[00:27] <pheonix99work> cool beans. Exactly what I needed.
[00:27] <daftykins> and of course backup
[00:29] <pheonix99work> Oh yeah, learned that lesson when I drunkenly dd'd an iso to my laptop's hard drive
[00:30] <daftykins> lol
[00:30] <bbra> hey there, i have a wlan problem. The wlan it used to connect to stopped showing up in the list. It does still work when booting an other OS so neither hardware nor the router are faulty. what would be the next step of debugging?
[00:31] <daftykins> wifi channel # used by the AP, bbra
[00:31] <daftykins> "iwlist scan" may be of use too
[00:32] <bbra> I dont get the first line, but i did iwlist scan without result. I mean it shows ssids in the area but the one i need is missing.
[00:32] <Extreminador> is there any command to upgrade to 15 ?
[00:33] <roky> chi mi legge??
[00:34] <pheonix99work> bbra, try a different wifi channel for your network, see if it sees it.
[00:34] <bbra> What does that mean?
[00:34] <pheonix99work> also, have you rebooted your router?
[00:34] <bbra> This is the first time ever i am working with wlan.
[00:34] <daftykins> bbra: on the ISM band, (2.4GHz) wireless access points / routers must pick a channel number from 1 to 13 or 14 - not all can be seen by all devices.
[00:35] <bbra> I get the technic behind it, but i never used it, so how do i tell what is is use?
[00:35] <pheonix99work> You'll have to get into your wireless router to change the channels.
[00:35] <minitrue> hey anyone using pandoc?
[00:36] <daftykins> bbra: the web admin pages of the router will say the number... haha
[00:36] <bbra> I dont want to change something in the router, all other devices do work fine.
[00:36] <bbra> Its not mine, so i dont wont to fiddle with the router.
[00:37] <daftykins> just check it.
[00:38] <bbra> Again, this MUST be a problem on the laptops side.
[00:38] <daftykins> yes but we need information going in
[00:39] <bbra> Then tell me where to find info.
[00:39] <daftykins> on the router web admin, as already described
[00:39] <daftykins> identify the router IP then visit its' web admin in your browser of choice with http://IP address here/
[00:39] <roky> saòve
[00:39] <roky> salve
[00:40] <daftykins> roky: no
[00:40] <roky> no cosa?
[00:40] <daftykins> english.
[00:40] <bbra> Specify the information you need. I was on that page already and there was nothing of interest.
[00:41] <zuippo> bbra: which router do you have?
[00:41] <daftykins> two of us just told you we're after the wireless channel number used
[00:41] <bbra> speedport
[00:41] <daftykins> i'm not sure how much clearer we can be?
[00:42] <bbra> Just tell me where to check on the laptop.
[00:42] <roky> daftykins: I am using the translator of google so excuse the bad traduazione! why did you write it? I would like to use mIRC to download, you can not? what should I do?
[00:42] <finetundra_> hey folks, is youtube-dl still working for anyone?
[00:42] <rogger_h> Hey guys i need some help , im having a webserver Nginx and from some reason all the domain urls other then the base domain giving me 404, ideas?
[00:42] <bbra> In the network settings, because i certainly wont touch the router.
[00:43] <bugtraq> hi
[00:43] <daftykins> we need info from the router, so without that we're done here, bbra
[00:43] <zuippo> bbra: you won't break anything by looking at the options
[00:43] <bugtraq> akouei kanenas?
[00:43] <bazhang> !gr
[00:44] <bazhang> bbra, is it your router or not
[00:44] <roky> daftykins
[00:44] <bazhang> roky did you have an ubuntu support issue
[00:45] <daftykins> roky: where are you from? italy?
[00:45] <roky> yes italy
[00:45] <daftykins> !it
[00:45] <rogger_h> 1790 users here but noone can give me an hint OMG
[00:45] <bazhang> rogger_h, hint about what
[00:45] <rogger_h> Hey guys i need some help , im having a webserver Nginx and from some reason all the domain urls other then the base domain giving me 404, ideas?
[00:45] <rogger_h> repaste
[00:45] <daftykins> rogger_h: either the sites aren't enabled or you've configured them incorrectly.
[00:46] <daftykins> read the logs to find out what's wrong.
[00:46] <bazhang> #nginx rogger_h
[00:46] <rogger_h> yes but i dont know what i did wrong
[00:46] <bbra> I dont have access to the router right now so i need to rely on the information in my memory. My house is 20 minutes away from the laptops owner.
[00:46] <roky> thanks
[00:46] <daftykins> bbra: then we can't help
[00:46] <rogger_h> on #nginx is even WORSE, the thing is same configs working on another server
[00:46] <rogger_h> so im not that sure its nginx misconfiguration
[00:46] <bazhang> bbra, perhaps the issue is that the router was set to hide the access point
[00:46] <bbra> I need help on what to do and then a get back there and do it.
[00:47] <daftykins> bbra: we can't help with something that's not in front of you really; as we've said we need more info from the real situation to advise
[00:47] <bbra> No it was not, checked anything.
[00:47] <daftykins> i don't understand that sentence
[00:47] <bbra> Tell me how you would handle it then.
[00:47] <bazhang> bbra, how can you possibly check from such a great distance
[00:48] <bbra> I got home after gaving up there, simple.
[00:48] <daftykins> you can't scan for a wireless network 20 mins away...
[00:48] <bazhang> being able to hands on with the network is key here bbra
[00:49] <daftykins> bbra: do you own your own laptop, or a smartphone perhaps that can have a program installed to check networks and what channels they're on?
[00:49] <bazhang> 20 minutes away is much further than hands on
[00:49] <zuippo> bbra: if the laptop can connect to other networks (try one at your home) then it's either hidden SSID or the channel doesn't work so you have to change it in the router. You can't do anything right now
[00:50] <OerHeks> bbra, when your SSID does not show up, disable wlan, go into keys & passwords, remove the wlan key entry, and enablewlan again, etc
[00:50] * OerHeks seen that before
[00:50] <daftykins> ah har
[00:50] <bbra> Okey in other words: The laptop worked for months without problems, now the ssid it used to connect to is gone. The hardware is checked, other oses work as they should, the 60 old owner never touched a thing so the settings are 100% certain okay. what would be your steps to research it?
[00:51] <daftykins> we already told you
[00:51] <daftykins> you seem to be ignoring all input
[00:51] <bazhang> if it's someone else's there's no way to access anything
[00:51] <OerHeks> probably in many channels ..
[00:51] <mil1i> Hello
[00:51] <bazhang> you need a direct wire to access it
[00:51] <zuippo> bbra: did you try to connect to a different network with the laptop?
[00:53] <bbra> OerHeks where is this keys and password thing?
[00:53] <bbra> I purged settings already, but i might misset one.
[00:53] <OerHeks> on Unity > systemsettings
[00:54] <daftykins> you know, my own network is often hidden beneath the networks list under "more networks" also
[00:54] <bbra> This one used to be autoconnet, so it wont be so far.
[00:55] <bbra> Its xfce OerHeks
[00:55] <bazhang> bbra, get in range and test again, withe the multiple advice already given
[00:56] <OerHeks> i don't know the xfce menu, keys & passwords is universal, search for it.
[00:56] <bbra> Your advice was to find out the channel right? Tell me why is that important, it never changed at all.
[00:56] <mil1i> Getting a PCIe wifi card to work with Ubuntu was ridiculous! Lol
[00:56] <bazhang> bbra, you said you are at a great distance now
[00:56] <daftykins> mil1i: that's not a rule, maybe just the model you got is badly supported
[00:57] <bazhang> bbra, how can you test anything at this range
[00:57] <daftykins> bbra: you don't know that, a lot of routers are on 'automatic' channel selection and thus would hop when powered off / rebooted
[00:57] <mil1i> Maybe that was it. It was an Asus PCIe card
[00:57] <bbra> Are you talking about the gnome keyring OerHeks?
[00:57] <daftykins> it'd make more sense to accept that in computing topics, you assume nothing and *check*, *check*, then *check again*
[00:59] <bbra> Well it works when booting an other partition, it MUST be the laptops settings then. So i dont get why you want me to check the router.
[00:59] <daftykins> right because another OS may not be tied to the same regulatory domain for channel selection
[00:59] <daftykins> look, instead of fighting free advice... write it down and go try again
[01:00] <bazhang> get in range first
[01:00] <bbra> Dude its Deep night here.
[01:00] <bbra> I cant wake her up to fix her computer.
[01:01] <Netes> Good Evening everybody
[01:02] <bazhang> bbra, you cannot fix it from this distance, what you are asking is simply not possible under present conditions
[01:02] <pheonix99work> bbra, there isn't anything you or any of us can do without you being in front of the computer
[01:03] <bbra> I ask for steps to fix it, not for the actual fix.
[01:03] <bbra> Because i am simply lost.
[01:03] <bazhang> bbra, we have given those many times now
[01:03] <bazhang> bbra, all of them require a proximate fixable distance
[01:03] <bbra> No you have given one, that is to check the wlan channel, and this cant be the proble,.
[01:04] <OerHeks> the user sleeps, you are lost, we have answered.
[01:04] <pheonix99work> bbra, if you're in a country that has channels 12-14 enabled on the router, but the driver isn't working for those channels, changing channesl to 1-11 may be your answer. As said above, if the router is set to auto channel, it could have changed to channels 12-14
[01:04] <zuippo> bbra: why not?
[01:05] <bbra> Because i only need to ram in a live cd and it works, so i need to find out where the difference between the live cd and the install is.
[01:07] <pheonix99work> You said another OS earlier, you never specified it was a live cd. I personally assumed it was Windows.
[01:07] <pheonix99work> Also, it was suggested earlier to clear the keys or something related to that. Those won't be stored on your live CD
[01:08] <pheonix99work> You can also look through /var/log/messages, dmesg, and all the other logs on the system to see if something is throwing an error.
[01:08] <bbra> Yea, indeed keys are my gues, i know that is a frequent nm-applet bug. But i already removed all settings i could think of.
[01:11] <bbra> I never heard of an error message that signals that a specific ssid is not found, that makes absolute no sense to me.
[01:12] <pheonix99work> You asked for suggestions, I'm just throwing them out. I have no idea what model wireless nic you have, and I'm not going to go researching it for you.
[01:12] <pheonix99work> If you're not happy with free support, I suggest looking elsewhere.
[01:12] <bbra> I cant check anyway.
[01:13] <daftykins> wow this is still going
[01:14] <pheonix99work> also, http://askubuntu.com/questions/356241/ssid-of-my-wireless-network-is-missing-in-ubuntu-12-04-i-can-see-other-ssids
[01:15] <pheonix99work> that's why channels have been suggested.
[01:15] <pheonix99work> and another: http://askubuntu.com/questions/236091/cant-see-wifi-ssid
[01:16] <pheonix99work> from that last link: "I recently had this problem and solved it changing the CHANNEL of my wifi router to 10, Looks like there were too many ssid's in my previous channel..."
[01:18] <bbra> So the problem could be that the driver only allows one channel, the router switched now to the unsupported.
[01:18] <bbra> Then the live disk may use i different driver version....
[01:19] <pheonix99work> This is very possible due to software updates.
[01:19] <bbra> Aha!
[01:20] <daftykins> no driver uses one channel only :)
[01:21] <pheonix99work> My buddy has to change from the propritary driver for his wireless nic to the open source one every other driver update because of issues like this.
[01:21] <pheonix99work> One updates, breaks the card
[01:21] <pheonix99work> swaps to the other one, it works
[01:21] <goopen> Hi folks, could someone check if this config looks sane? https://dpaste.de/ApSw its from /etc/network/interfaces
[01:22] <bbra> Now again, where do i check the channel of a network on the laptop? Because i can walk by with my own and check what this is sending on.
[01:23] <daftykins> i asked if you had a laptop or smartphone to install an app on
[01:23] <daftykins> 'kismet' would be handy
[01:23] <daftykins> !info kismet
[01:25] <pheonix99work> goopen: you may want to put a second dns server in there.
[01:25] <bbra> I have an arm based micro pc at hand. It has the usual wlan tools, doubt i can install anything new as the os is aengstroem based.
[01:26] <bbra> Or in short, its not some right click in nm-applet, no?
[01:28] <daftykins> bbra: no.
[01:33] <bbra> Well well i hope i find my way around tomorrow then, Either by upgrading the cards driver or switching the channel.
[01:33] <bbra> Thanks for your help.
[01:41] <rom_> ubuntu-id
[01:41] <daftykins> ?
[01:41] <OerHeks> = indonesia
[01:42] <OerHeks> !id
[01:46] <rom_> cara gabung ubuntu-id gimana yah?
[01:46] <daftykins> rom_: english only in here
[01:47] <OerHeks> /join #ubuntu-id
[02:33] <edgsan> hola
[02:41] <kevinfish> I'm trying to get the adk on my arm powered chromebook like on this page: http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html and I get E: Unable to locate package libc6-dev-i386... when i go to install them. How do I fix? my crouton version info: Linux localhost 3.8.11 #1 SMP Thu Nov 5 12:52:00 PST 2015 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
[02:44] <Bashing-om> !info libc6-dev-i386 trusty
[02:44] <Bashing-om> !info libc6-dev-i386 wily
[02:45] <OerHeks> part of glibc
[02:45] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc
[02:45] <OerHeks> but maybe not for arm
[02:46] <supahhackah> hello
[02:46] <supahhackah> #set
[02:46] <supahhackah> !join #set
[02:48] <Bashing-om> kevinfish: OerHeks Yeah : wily (libdevel): GNU C Library: 32-bit development libraries for AMD64 >> 2.21-0ubuntu4: amd64 .
[02:52] <kevinfish> Bashing-om: so I should just omit those missing packages?
[02:53] <Bashing-om> kevinfish: chromebook & arm .. can not advise . No experience .
[02:53] <kevinfish> Bashing-om: ok, thx
[02:56] <edward25> Hello
[02:58] <edgsan> ola
[02:58] <lotuspsychje> !es | edgsan
[03:01] <dante> ola
[03:08] <alex____1> :q
[03:08] <alex____1> q
[03:20] <HackerII> win ten gets a 1 star review - ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆
[03:22] <Extreminador> guys did upgrade from 14 to 15 version but in the end it said "The upgrade process has completed but were errors during the upgrade procss.."
[03:22] <Extreminador> where can i see what errors ?
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> Extreminador: wich 14 ubuntu version?
[03:23] <Extreminador> yup
[03:23] <lotuspsychje> Extreminador: wich version exactly? 14.10 or 14.04?
[03:23] <Extreminador> 14.04 LTS
[03:23] <lotuspsychje> Extreminador: how did you do this upgrade?
[03:23] <Extreminador> restarting the linux atm
[03:24] <Extreminador> http://askubuntu.com/questions/588019/how-to-upgrade-from-14-10-to-15-04
[03:24] <Extreminador> ther it say 14-10
[03:24] <Extreminador> mybe that why with errors lool
[03:24] <Extreminador> but i follow that
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> Extreminador: so wich version do you really have now?
[03:24] <Extreminador> linux still estarting
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> Extreminador: its not reccomended to upgrade LTS to non-LTS
[03:25] <Extreminador> hum lool ups
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> Extreminador: clean install mate
[03:26] <Extreminador> what the lts means ?
[03:26] <mentoc> long term support
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> !lts | Extreminador
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> Extreminador: why did you leave 14.04 exactly?
[03:27] <Extreminador> was traying to install the mysecureshell
[03:27] <Extreminador> for ftp... but it seems it could not find the repository
[03:27] <Extreminador> and people told me the version 15 bring that alrady
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> Extreminador: ok clean install 15.04 or 15.10 as you need
[03:28] <Extreminador> lol indeed
[03:28] <Extreminador> it's not working lool
[03:29] <Extreminador> AcPI probe fail
[03:29] <Extreminador> people said to turn that off indeed the drivers update
[03:30] <Extreminador> will get them the 15
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> Extreminador: start over clean
[03:30] <Extreminador> yehh i will
[03:31] <Extreminador> what the diference beetween the server version and the one i had ?
[03:32] <Extreminador> does the server version bring's apache, php, ftp , etc ?
[03:32] <daftykins> you don't need FTP on a Linux host :)
[03:32] <daftykins> no every version has all of those
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> Extreminador: ask yourself what you gonna start doing with ubuntu
[03:35] <Extreminador> the ideia was to make only a self server to make some codes
[03:35] <Extreminador> php, java, etc
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> Extreminador: server has no GUI right
[03:35] <Extreminador> ohh them better not
[03:35] <Extreminador> lool
[03:35] <Extreminador> desktop them i guess it's better... i guess the gui part in begyining for me it's handy
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> Extreminador: better choose ubuntu desktop and make it a dev box :p
[03:36] <Extreminador> yehh
[03:37] <Extreminador> guess them i need to search for other tuturial to know how to use the ftp right ?
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> !ftp | Extreminador
[03:38] <Extreminador> people here tould me about sftp
[03:39] <daftykins> yes, sftp is very different to ftp, or even ftps :)
[03:40] <Extreminador> yehh guess the s is for secutre
[03:40] <Extreminador> *secure
[03:41] <jasper_> hekosa;
[03:41] <daftykins> ?
[03:47] <nmxyz> help
[03:48] <daftykins> ask a question, nmatrix9_
[03:48] <daftykins> sorry nmatrix9_ bad highlight
[03:48] <daftykins> nmxyz: ask a question
[03:52] <ee99ee> how can I split a binary file into multiple files based on a binary delimiter?
[03:53] <ee99ee> I tried this: awk 'BEGIN { RS="\x7c\x7c" } { printf $0 > FILENAME"."NR }' filename
[03:53] <ee99ee> but I just get "awk: syntax error at source line 1" and don't really know why
[03:53] <daftykins> i think you'd be better off with another channel, that task isn't ubuntu specific
[03:54] <cfhowlett> ee99ee, ask #bash or ##linux
[03:54] <ee99ee> thx
[03:58] <mib_mib> hi all - how do i restart the networking service in ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS? I have tried all these and none work: http://askubuntu.com/questions/441619/how-to-successfully-restart-a-network-without-reboot-over-ssh
[04:01] <anthony> hello
[04:02] <Guest20090> is anyone out there
[04:02] <mrvayga> yep
[04:02] <cfhowlett> !ask | Guest20090,
[04:02] <mrvayga> what the..
[04:03] <Guest20090> I agree
[04:03] <mrvayga> can anyone see me?
[04:03] <Guest20090> Hello.
[04:03] <cfhowlett> !ask | mrvayga,
[04:03] <mrvayga> lol
[04:03] <mrvayga> i guess so
[04:03] <cfhowlett> Guest20090, you don't read do you.
[04:03] <cfhowlett> !ask | Guest20090
[04:03] <mrvayga> howlett please stop
[04:04] <mrvayga> i need hel p
[04:04] <somsip> mrvayga: just ask your question
[04:04] <cfhowlett> and yet you haven't actually stated your question yet, have you?
[04:05] <mrvayga> i am trying to set up gnu step but un able to create a project
[04:06] <SeriouslyLaugh> mib_mib sudo service network-manager restart
[04:06] <mib_mib> SeriouslyLaugh: doesn't work
[04:06] <mib_mib> says no such service
[04:06] <SeriouslyLaugh> then the networking service isn't running
[04:06] <SeriouslyLaugh> try sudo service network-manager start
[04:07] <mib_mib> SeriouslyLaugh: i guess i assumed it had to be running to set up network interfaces
[04:07] <mib_mib> am i wrong?
[04:07] <cfhowlett> mrvayga, gnustep has its own support channesl. ask them: http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/Get_Help
[04:07] <SeriouslyLaugh> sudo service network-manager start will start the service
[04:08] <mib_mib> SeriouslyLaugh: what does the service actually do then?
[04:09] <Spethus> does anyone play rift on linux
[04:09] <SeriouslyLaugh> i don't understand your question mib_mib
[04:09] <mib_mib> SeriouslyLaugh: what is the responsibilities of the network-manager service?
[04:09] <SeriouslyLaugh> sudo service network-manager start will start the network-manager service
[04:09] <cfhowlett> someone somewhere yes, probably. ask a more focused question, Spethus
[04:09] <d21anthony> is there an easy way to do a snap shot of my system so I can install it on my laptop?
[04:10] <SeriouslyLaugh> mib_mib https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> !backup | d21anthony
[04:10] <d21anthony> When I say system I mean all my goodies - installed packages, settings, etc
[04:10] <Spethus> im new to linux and would like to swap from windows , is it easy to get rift to run in linux'
[04:10] <mib_mib> SeriouslyLaugh: hmm okay - well, i am using ubuntu server version, no UI
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> d21anthony: its more interesting to backup your favorite packages with aptoncd, and keep your system up to date
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> d21anthony: going back to an earlier date, means also back to older updates
[04:11] <SeriouslyLaugh> network-manager doesn't require a UI mib_mib
[04:12] <SeriouslyLaugh> it's a service
[04:12] <SeriouslyLaugh> type man network-manager
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> !appdb | Spethus search your game here
[04:12] <Spethus> thanks
[04:13] <d21anthony> I just want to save myself the agony of manually installing all packages and settings when doing a fresh install. Was looking for a solution kinda like a vm instance or similar
[04:13] <mib_mib> SeriouslyLaugh: no man entry, i guess i have to install it
[04:14] <mib_mib> SeriouslyLaugh: but i'm assuming that its not installed because i dont need it?
[04:14] <mib_mib> SeriouslyLaugh: why would ifdown / ifup not work?
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> d21anthony: when doing a fresh install, its also reccomended to update your packages to latest, not going back to older ones
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> d21anthony: use aptoncd to back them up, put on fresh install and update
[04:15] <SeriouslyLaugh> d21anthony look into something like timeshift -- it takes a snapshot of your current system and can act as a restore point
[04:15] <d21anthony> lotuspsychje: gotcha. thanks!
[04:16] <SeriouslyLaugh> d21anthony http://www.howtogeek.com/206491/how-to-restore-your-ubuntu-linux-system-to-its-previous-state/ -- this is a third party application so obviously be careful
[04:16] <Spethus> i relly hate the way windows 10 has gone it has given me good reason to explore linux as an alternative
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> SeriouslyLaugh: please also mention the risk of ppa use when sugesting those mate
[04:17] <SeriouslyLaugh> !ppa
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[04:17] <SeriouslyLaugh> np
[04:18] <d21anthony> www.webupd8.org are always solid from my experience
[04:18] <d21anthony> java, sublime, etc
[04:18] <SeriouslyLaugh> mib_mib apologies, i made a typo. try man networkmanager
[04:18] <d21anthony> solid for PPA's that is
[04:19] <Spethus> how safe are pps's as a general guide ?
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> d21anthony: still ppa's can damage system
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> Spethus: their not officially supported, so use at your own risk
[04:19] <mib_mib> SeriouslyLaugh: anyway, my main problem is that after setting my ip and hostname, i restart my server, but for some reason the DNS seems to be messed up on it, i dont see any 'errors' i only see "Deferring dns to <server 1>"
[04:20] <SeriouslyLaugh> equivalent to after market parts for a car -- not officially approved by the manufacture and may void the warranty
[04:20] <d21anthony> Although that is totally true - "risky business" it's been my go to for yearws
[04:20] <mib_mib> SeriouslyLaugh: nope, i guess i will need to install networkmanager? no entry for networkmanager
[04:21] <SeriouslyLaugh> mib_mib i think so, unfortunately i've reached the extent of my knowledge on this topic but do stay in the channel in case anyone else sees your error and knows the solution
[04:21] <d21anthony> SeriouslyLaugh: , lotuspsychje: which distro's are you currently using. 15.10 or 15.04?
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | d21anthony 14.04.3
[04:22] <Spethus> rso far i have managed to get most things i need to work under linux but i have problems getting games to work
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | Spethus sudo apt-get install playonlinux
[04:22] <SeriouslyLaugh> there must be a channel for linux gaming support --i know there's a subreddit for it
[04:23] <treversir> SeriouslyLaugh: yep
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> !steam | SeriouslyLaugh
[04:23] <Spethus> i have playonlinux installed as part of zorin im guessing
[04:23] <SeriouslyLaugh> ty lotuspsychje
[04:24] <Spethus> sorry im new and not really tech savy , just sick of windows invading my privacy
[04:24] <Guest8886> i have upgraded to Ubuntu 14, trying to connect to internet using Tata Photon India,
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> Spethus: this is an ubuntu support channel mate, zorin not supported here
[04:25] <Guest8886> ok
[04:25] <Guest8886> where should i ask ?
[04:25] <Spethus> isnt zorin basically ubuntu version
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> Guest8886: that wasnt for you
[04:25] <Guest8886> ok
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> Guest8886: do you have an ubuntu issue on your upgrade?
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> Spethus: its not officialy supported here
[04:26] <cfhowlett> Spethus, zorin is not ubuntu, ubuntu is not zorin. go to zorin for support
[04:26] <cfhowlett> !flavors | Spethus
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> Spethus: if you want our support in the future, your welcome to install a version from the topic
[04:26] <d21anthony> lotuspsychje: digging AptonCd
[04:27] <rickyvelasc> Hello
[04:27] <d21anthony> thx
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> d21anthony: cheers :p
[04:27] <Spethus> sorry i thought the basic issue would still apply , i will shut up
[04:27] <emitattuo> Spethus, http://zoringroup.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=947 #zorinOS
[04:27] <Guest8886> lotuspsychje : upgraded successfully, but not able to connect to internet, using Tata Photon India
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> Guest8886: wifi or cable?
[04:28] <Guest8886> wifi
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> Guest8886: can you see your wifi icon?
[04:28] <treversir> Wifi is hard Guest8886
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> !behelpful | treversir
[04:33] <Spethus> sorry not familiar with the elitist versions of help guess this is why people stick to windows
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> Spethus: this has nothing to do with being 'elite'
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> Spethus: we all have seperated channels, to be able to help users the best way
[04:34] <Spethus> well as a new linux user looking for help it sure looks like it from the response'
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> Spethus: the response was clear and pointed you to the right channel
[04:35] <ha1dfo> cfhowlett, hi, remember yestreday had some troubles with crome -- figured out in the meanwhile, it installs corrupted .desktop files under ~/.local
[04:35] <cfhowlett> Spethus, the response was correct. for best results go to your chosen distro channels. if THEY don't support their own distro, you seriously expect US to?? really?
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> Spethus: what else did you wish for?
[04:35] <hppy> I am using Ubuntu 14.04 and unable to connect tata photon wifi please solve this issue?
[04:35] <cfhowlett> ha1dfo, I recall a suggestion to use a virtualbox windows. you might explore that.
[04:36] <Spethus> sorry confused i thought my distro was based on unbuntu so i might have thought someone might have been able to help but hey i guess i'm wrong !
[04:36] <cfhowlett> Spethus, feel free to return here for support after you install one of the official ubuntu flavors. best of luck to you.
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> ha1dfo: tnx for the feedback
[04:40] <HewloThere> Hi. I'm having trouble setting up a directory so that the directory can be edited by the 2 users. One controls the application (AMP/McMyAdmin) and I need a second user to be jailed within a directory inside it, but also have read/write.
[04:40] <HewloThere> I'm on Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS.
[04:41] <dougbb> I have an AMD A-10 processor with ATI/Radeon R6 graphics. Using 15.10 I am having terrible problems with the X server not coming back from power save mode. I've tried the Xorg drivers, and also the lgrx drivers. lgrxinfo shows that things are Ok, but at least half the time I have to power cycle if the screen shuts off. Any suggestions?
[04:41] <cfhowlett> HewloThere, sounds like something the #ubuntu-server channel would know about
[04:41] <HewloThere> Oh, sorry cfhowlett. I thought this was for all Ubuntu. :)
[04:42] <cfhowlett> HewloThere, it is but that particular function sounds more server focused than this channel
[04:42] <dougbb> HewloThere: make a group that contains only the two users, and have everything in the directory and below it with that group
[04:42] <cfhowlett> of course, ubuntu gurus get around to all channels sooner or later ^^
[04:42] <HewloThere> dougbb: I also need to chroot one of the users and I've followed numerous guides. I've had a bit of trouble doing it before.
[04:43] <dougbb> like cfhowlett said, that's a bit beyond this channel ... but it's a soluble problem
[04:44] <HewloThere> Alright. Will post it in Ubuntu server. :) Thanks for that!
[04:44] <cfhowlett> do what you do best dougbb !
[04:45] <dougbb> I'm still hoping someone can answer my question :-/
[04:45] <dougbb> it's driving me nutso
[04:45] <HewloThere> I wish I could help, sorry doug. :(
[04:46] <cfhowlett> dougbb, might want to see the amd forums.
[04:46] <dougbb> HewloThere: no worries, thanks for the thought
[04:46] <dougbb> cfhowlett: here, or actual web forums?
[04:46] <cfhowlett> dougbb, go to amd.com and search for support options
[04:47] <dougbb> oh, yeah ... no support for kernel 4+
[04:47] <Spethus> what is the easiest to learn supported ubuntu version this channel allows to get support coming from windows
[04:47] <mib_mib> hi - i think i'm having a problem with UFW - somehow interfering with my DNS - how can i see if its blocking DNS? i dont see anything in /var/log/ufw.log
[04:48] <HewloThere> Spethus: What do you want to use Ubuntu for?
[04:48] <Spethus> gaming specifaclly rift , photogrphy software email and internet i guess
[04:48] <Bashing-om> dougbb: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMDGPU-Xorg-1.0 . AMD has released the new drivers for 15.10, but so far as I know they have not hit our repo .
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> Spethus: we just told you not to use this channel for zorin
[04:49] <Spethus> wifi seems a problem with linux
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> Spethus: why did you come back?
[04:49] <Spethus> maybe thats why i askes what distro to change to
[04:50] <HewloThere> Spethus: Ubuntu 14.04 and 15.04 or newer should be relatively similar or the same on the GUI side. There isn't a lot of photography software available for it, except GIMP as far as I know.
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> !manual | Spethus here
[04:50] <dougbb> Spethus: wifi is well handled in linux, but newer cards sometimes lack support since it takes time to write drivers, and win/mac are the priorities
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> HewloThere: there are a lot of packages out there for ubuntu, be carefull what to suggest
[04:51] <mib_mib> I see this answer - i **may** be having this problem - what is this actually doing though? http://serverfault.com/questions/416727/ufw-blocking-apt-and-dns
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> mib_mib: maybe the #netfilter guys can help?
[04:51] <dougbb> Bashing-om: that looks very promising, thanks!
[04:51] <HewloThere> lotuspsychje: Well, IIRC, compared to Windows there isn't a lot of photo editing software (sorry, they may have meant something else). All I know there is is GIMP.
[04:52] <dougbb> fortunately gimp is a very powerful tool :)
[04:52] <HewloThere> GIMP is powerful, yes, although I'm not sure it's as good as Photoshop.
[04:52] <Bashing-om> dougbb: http://news.softpedia.com/news/open-source-amdgpu-linux-driver-released-supports-the-latest-amd-gpus-496545.shtml .
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> HewloThere: read up: http://codecondo.com/top-photo-editors-for-linux/
[04:54] <HewloThere> I could be wrong, sorry. o.O
[04:55] <Spethus> thanks Hewlother i had origanally chose zorin just based on something i read on the net about being easy for a new linux user but its looking like its not so simple to change to linux i will try download unbuntu 14 and see if i can get everything running again
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> HewloThere: always keep your mind open for new things :p
[04:56] <HewloThere> lotuspsychje: I am very open minded and I have LibreOffice installed and use it more than MS Office (lol). I just didn't know there was anything other than GIMP because I'm a Windows desktop and Linux server guy.
[04:56] <HewloThere> Spethus: Perhaps dual boot or run live CD.
[04:56] <dougbb> Spethus: you can deal with your wifi concerns easily ... download one of the live CDs, and give it a test drive :)
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> dougbb: +1
[04:57] <dougbb> Spethus: personally I find xubuntu to be very easy to use, and the interface will be fairly familiar to a windows user
[04:57] <Spethus> yeah that worked real well for zorin too , i still had to mess around alot to get wifi to work
[04:57] <dougbb> Spethus: do you happen to know what kind of wifi card you have?
[04:58] <Spethus> no but i found something that worked for general ubuntu tht got it workihg
[04:59] <dougbb> Ok
[05:00] <dougbb> I'd download the latest (15.10) just to be on the safe side ... I have a new'ish laptop and the card is only supported in kernel 4+ (for example)
[05:00] <fullstack> I have two encrypted volume groups with the same default name, ubuntu-vg
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> dougbb: latest doenst mean best, better choose LTS for stable
[05:01] <fullstack> is it impossible to mount the second one? When I do cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdc5 SOMENAME
[05:01] <Spethus> so hopefully if i find it again on google i can get it going under a "supported ubuntu" distro
[05:01] <fullstack> then I try to mount it, I get Unknown filesystem type LVM2_member
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> Spethus: www.ubuntu.com
[05:01] <fullstack> then if I vgscan, I see two "ubuntu-vg" groups type lvm2
[05:02] <fullstack> any idea? am I screwed?
[05:02] <dougbb> Spethus: try the LTS first, but if that isn't as smooth as you like, consider 15.10
[05:02] <Spethus> thanks will do
[05:04] <Spethus> is lt a paid os
[05:04] <dougbb> well you don't have to pay for it, if that's what you mean :)
[05:05] <inteus> ubuntu is free
[05:05] <inteus> :)
[05:06] <Spethus> i don't mind paying for it if it works for me, but it wants payment
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> Spethus: scroll to bottom= no tnx take mo to download
[05:10] <fullstack> So
[05:10] <fullstack> how do I mount a LVM volume group
[05:10] <fullstack> that I unlocked
[05:10] <fullstack> with cryptsetup
[05:10] <fullstack> that has the default name ubuntu-vg as my system's ubuntu-vg
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> !lvm | fullstack
[05:11] <dougbb> d'oh, fake raid ... that's harsh LOL
[05:11] <fullstack> There's no /dev/volumegroup or /dev/VolGroup001
[05:12] <fullstack> there's /dev/mapper/luks-<someUID>
[05:12] <fullstack> thats my file system, but I can't mount it
[05:13] <fullstack> because it saids unknown filesystem type LVM2-Member, which is fine. But when I do vgscan, there are two ubuntu-vg -- so how do I specify "Scan the second ubuntu-vg and then somehow magically create a volume group directory for that one so I can mount it"
[05:14] <fullstack> vgchange -a y doesn't create a /dev/volumegroup
[05:16] <fullstack> you get what I'm saying?
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> !patience | fullstack
[05:19] <fullstack> does ubuntu vgscan create mount points in a /dev directory?
[05:19] <dan34> hi
[05:19] <fullstack> hi dan34
[05:19] <dan34> I have an Acer laptop and just installed Ubuntu
[05:19] <dan34> but wireless is not working
[05:19] <dan34> hi fullstack
[05:19] <dan34> how may I fix my wireless?
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> dan34: ubuntu version and wifi card chipset?
[05:20] <fullstack> is your wireless card built in?
[05:20] <fullstack> or usb
[05:20] <dan34> yes
[05:20] <dan34> built in
[05:20] <ElOco> Just out of curiosity how does CHASE bank or any other banking site know which machine I'm using? I know about super-cookies, HTTP reffers, tracking scripts, and user-agents but I think they use something else. I just ask because I borked my debian box, had to reinstall the os, and had to go through the chase online banking verification process which I usually only have to do if I'm logging in from another ip address. I reinstalle
[05:20] <fullstack> dan34, do you see it when you type lspci
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> ElOco: ask in #debian please
[05:21] <fullstack> ElOco, your browser sends your OS
[05:21] <dan34> fullstack: yes, 03:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros Device 0042 (rev 30)
[05:21] <ElOco> I reinstalled the same os
[05:21] <daftykins> ElOco: OS, browser, geoIP... usual
[05:21] <fullstack> dan34: lotuspsychje asked what your os and chipset is do you know
[05:21] <dan34> oh
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> !atheros | dan34
[05:22] <dan34> fullstack: lotuspsychje Ubuntu 14.04.3 the chipset I don't know
[05:22] <fullstack> Atheros chipset I think is pretty popular.
[05:22] <fullstack> dan34 its atheros
[05:23] <fullstack> dan34, is there a physical switch on the laptop that has the wifi turned off? sorry stupid question
[05:23] <RJ45> Hi I am at my wits end here trying to get public key authentication working for SSH, I have been having problems getting 2 machines to connect with this, one of the machines I got working by changing some permissions, but the other machine doesn't work no-matter what I do, I have been following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys to the letter
[05:23] <ElOco> geoip is disabled, I always use a private session for all my surfing, I use the better-privacy extension for firefox to clear every super cookie
[05:23] <dan34> fullstack: no physical switch
[05:24] <fullstack> RJ45, are you trying to ssh as root? because there is a setting that disables the ability to ssh into a machine as root in /etc/sshd_config that you have to reset.
[05:24] <RJ45> fullstack: nope, just as a regular user
[05:24] <fullstack> ElOco, geoip isn't something you can enable or disable
[05:24] <fullstack> RJ45, have you tried "ssh -vvv" and carefully watched what happens when you ssh?
[05:25] <dan34> fullstack: how would I fix my wireless issue?
[05:25] <fullstack> RJ45, and are you able to ssh public key to other machines
[05:25] <fullstack> dan34: did you read that WifiDocs ubottu posted?
[05:25] <ElOco> ah sorry I'm thinking about the "allow location" setting in the browser
[05:25] <ElOco> or show location whatever it is
[05:25] <dan34> fullstack: yes, but I',m not sure how to proceed
[05:26] <RJ45> fullstack: I can ssh with a password, but not with a public key, I am trying to get public key auth to work, I have been able to get it to work connecting from machine 2 to machine 1, but not the other way around
[05:26] <dougbb> ElOco: someone already told you that your topic is not suitable for this channel ... you might want to take a look at https://panopticlick.eff.org/, FYI
[05:26] <ElOco> fine
[05:27] <fullstack> dan34: lspci -nn
[05:27] <fullstack> dan34: and this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2228595
[05:28] <fullstack> dan34: something about disabling ipv6 to make it work
[05:28] <dougbb> RJ45: are you sure that you're running ssh-agent on machine 1? And what happens if you run the ssh -vvv command that fullstack suggested?
[05:28] <fullstack> wait, you are using agent forwarding? are you forwarding your agent and have agent forwarding on in the middle server?
[05:30] <dan34> fullstack: I don't have a wlan0
[05:30] <dan34> iwconfig eth0 no wireless extensions. lo no wireless extensions.
[05:31] <fullstack> dan34, is it the same chipset listed from lspci -nn
[05:31] <fullstack> that they are talking about?
[05:31] <RJ45> dougbb: I tried it, I really don't understand what part of the debug output I should be concerned about
[05:31] <dougbb> ok, try this on machine 1: ssh-add -l
[05:31] <dougbb> and tell us if it lists your key
[05:32] <dougbb> or if you get an error about it being unable to make a connection to your agent
[05:32] <dan34> fullstack: no mines does not include the model. Just: Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros Device [168c:0042] (rev 30)
[05:32] <RJ45> dougbb: agent has no identities
[05:32] <dougbb> ok, there is your problem :)
[05:32] <dougbb> ssh-add your key
[05:33] <fullstack> dan34 I googled that
[05:33] <fullstack> dan34: and I got this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1484159
[05:33] <dougbb> you will have to have the private key and the appropriate authorized_keys file on both systems, RJ45
[05:33] <fullstack> dan34 is your laptop like really new or from the future
[05:33] <RJ45> but I have generated keys on both machines and transferred them with ' ssh-copy-id ' for each machine
[05:33] <dan34> fullstack: I guess it's pretty new. Yes
[05:34] <fullstack> dan34: the last link in the bug report is a how to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2300861&page=3
[05:34] <RJ45> it should be fine, I ever made sure the permissions were okay
[05:34] <dougbb> RJ45: ok, that all sounds great, but you still haven't run ssh-add :)
[05:34] <fullstack> dan34: you'll need to download some kernel headers (instructions there) and build
[05:34] <fullstack> the module
[05:34] <dougbb> so the agent on machine1 doesn't have the key, so it can't use it to authenticate you
[05:35] <dan34> fullstack: aah, I will try
[05:35] <fullstack> dan34: looks like post #29 is the money shot you can probably get away with cut and pasting what tizo_rh did
[05:35] <dougbb> RJ45: run 'ssh-add -l' on machine2, you should see a listing for your key that you generated on machine2
[05:36] <dan34> fullstack: :) thanks
[05:37] <dan34> fullstack: the file is not available
[05:37] <dan34> fullstack: http://filebin.ca/2LVgpjSgiT56/backports-ath-2015-11-05.tar.bz2
[05:37] <dan34> is there another place I can get it from?
[05:38] <RJ45> dougbb: this makes no sense, I have never run ssh-add on that machine o.O
[05:38] <RJ45> but it has a key
[05:39] <RJ45> I'm pretty confused about a-lot of things here :/
[05:39] <dougbb> RJ45: I don't know what to tell you about that, but I can tell you for sure that you have identified your problem :)
[05:39] <fullstack> dan34 that usually means there's a newer version with a slightly different file name
[05:39] <RJ45> hm
[05:39] <dougbb> RJ45: we all started somewhere :0
[05:39] <fullstack> dan34: you'll need some google-fu to find what the file in the context of the conversation
[05:40] <RJ45> this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys should really be made more clear that ' ssh-add ' is required
[05:40] <dan34> alright
[05:40] <fullstack> dan34: your google fu isn't as good as mine
[05:40] <dougbb> RJ45: file a bug report :)
[05:40] <fullstack> dan34: here http://askubuntu.com/questions/697448/ubuntu-14-04-install-firmare-released-for-ath10k-pci
[05:41] <RJ45> it says to do it in troubleshooting if the response is "Permission denied (publickey)", but that was not my response
[05:41] <dan34> fullstack: not at all, thanks
[05:41] <fullstack> my google fu can not be matched.
[05:41] <fullstack> dan34 make sure you don't install 15.0x on your 14.04
[05:42] <nitish> How can I install wine 1.7?
[05:42] <RJ45> okay, slight problem here, I am still unable to connect using public key authentication
[05:42] <dan34> fullstack: alright, I'll be careful
[05:42] <RJ45> *face-palm*
[05:43] <fullstack> RJ45 have I talked to you before?
[05:43] <RJ45> fullstack: on another chan?
[05:43] <fullstack> yes
[05:44] <RJ45> maybe, are you on ##networking ##hardware #opennic or #bash ?
[05:44] <fullstack> nope. whats opennic about?
[05:44] <RJ45> it's an alternative DNS, it's pretty cool
[05:44] <fullstack> i think if we talk about non-ubuntu stuff people get pissed, so lets pretend its ubuntu
[05:44] <RJ45> https://opennicproject.org
[05:45] <fullstack> did you run apt-get sorry_dunno_what_opennic is?
[05:45] <RJ45> (sorry for going off-topic everyone)
[05:45] <fullstack> are you running 14.04 LTS and did you oh-opennic-looks-cool-thanks as sudo?
[05:45] <RJ45> technically I configured my DNS in Ubuntu, so it could be a Ubuntu topic :P
[05:45] <fullstack> j/k
[05:46] <dan34> fullstack: time for a reboot, wish me luck!
[05:46] <fullstack> dan34: praying
[05:47] <nitish> How can I install wine?
[05:49] <RJ45> again, I am still unable to connect from machine 1 to machine 2 using a public key
[05:49] <RJ45> even after running ssh-add on both machines
[05:50] <dougbb> is machine1's key reflected in machine2's authorized_keys file?
[05:50] <RJ45> yes, and vice-versa
[05:50] <dougbb> ok, so run ssh -vvv and paste the results
[05:51] <dougbb> or, pastebin I should say
[05:51] <RJ45> machine 2 is able to connect to machine 1 with a public key (though it was having troubles before I massed with file permissions)
[05:51] <dougbb> yes, we got that :)
[05:51] <RJ45> okay I'll do that
[05:52] <dan34> it didn't work :(
[05:54] <dan34> do you know where I can find backports-ath-2015-11-05.tar.bz2?
[05:54] <dan34> it's no longer available at http://filebin.ca/2LVgpjSgiT56/backports-ath-2015-11-05.tar.bz2
[05:56] <dougbb> RJ45: any luck?
[05:57] <RJ45> dougbb: I'm just trying to redact stuff I don't want shared from the paste, BRB
[06:00] <RJ45> err here http://pastebin.com/9rSC7LGB
[06:02] <dougbb> RJ45: do you actually have an ecdsa key?
[06:03] <dougbb> or a plain dsa key?
[06:03] <RJ45> I'm not sure
[06:03] <jcadduono> hi guys i've been trying for hours to find a way to execute a shell script in screen over ssh, but it just seems impossible: ssh user@host -f "screen -dmS dostuff /home/user/dostuff.sh" that does...nothing at all
[06:04] <RJ45> dougbb: in the paste I changed it to "debug1: Server host key: ECDSA de:ad:be:ef:de:ad:be:ef:de:ad:be:ef:de:ad:be:ef"
[06:04] <RJ45> lol
[06:04] <dougbb> RJ45: what's in ~/.ssh on machine1 ?
[06:05] <dougbb> jcadduono: what is your purpose for trying to use screen there? what are you trying to accomplish?
[06:06] <RJ45> :~$ ls ~/.ssh
[06:06] <RJ45> authorized_keys id_dsa id_dsa.pub id_rsa id_rsa.pub known_hosts old bak
[06:06] <RJ45> that
[06:06] <dougbb> RJ45: ok ... did you create the dsa key on purpose, or was it something that the guide said you should do?
[06:06] <jcadduono> dougbb: i want to execute a script on another server in a screen session i can connect to later on, since the sh script goes on for a few hours
[06:06] <RJ45> I'm honestly not sure where that came from
[06:07] <RJ45> what does the dsa key do?
[06:07] <dougbb> jcadduono: do you want to "connect" to it because it's interactive, or because you need to see the results?
[06:07] <dougbb> RJ45: right now it's just confusing the issue :) try moving those two dsa files out of ~/.ssh for now
[06:08] <jcadduono> dougbb: i don't care to see the results at the time, i want to be able to check on it later on though by connecting through ssh and using screen -r
[06:08] <RJ45> k
[06:08] <Extreminador> how can i search for the directory x ?
[06:08] <daftykins> man find
[06:08] <Extreminador> thanks
[06:08] <fullstack> the man pages suck
[06:08] <dougbb> but your log shows that it properly presented the rsa key, and was rejected ... that tells me that authorized_keys is not correct on machine2 ... give that another look
[06:08] <fullstack> find ./ -name 'SOMENAME*LALALA*hahah*.txt'
[06:09] <dougbb> jcadduono: stop focusing on screen :) focus on what you're trying to accomplish if you could use screen
[06:09] <dougbb> jcadduono: is your script interactive, or do you just want to see the results?
[06:09] <dougbb> (where results could be things that are being printed out by the script as it runs)
[06:09] <jcadduono> dougbb: the script is not interactive at all, i just wanna check on how its going once in a while in case there is an error
[06:09] <dougbb> ok
[06:10] <fullstack> if it didn't like your authorized_keys 9 times out of 10 its file permissions are to open
[06:10] <tyuiope> Is ubutu
[06:10] <RJ45> dougbb: the home on machine 1 is encrypted, but I solved that how the guide said, and machine 2 can connect to it, machine 2's home is not encrypted, so I set that up how the guide says
[06:11] <RJ45> I'll try re-transferring the key from machine 1 to machine 2
[06:11] <fullstack> how do I install the kernel headers?
[06:12] <jcadduono> dougbb: i could just do "ssh user@host SOMEVAR=something /home/user/dostuff.sh" and that would run the entire thing just fine...but i can't keep the ssh connection open for 3 hours, that's why i really want to use screen
[06:12] <daftykins> uname -r; apt install linux-headers-x.x.x=
[06:12] <daftykins> oops
[06:12] <daftykins> uname -r; apt install linux-headers-x.x.x-##-generic
[06:13] <daftykins> usually they're already there
[06:13] <RJ45> dougbb: did it, no change in behaviour
[06:13] <dougbb> jcadduono: you don't need screen for that, you can use nohup
[06:13] <dougbb> RJ45: do ls -lR ~/.ssh on machine2
[06:14] <fullstack> oh.. where are kernel headers stored?
[06:14] <daftykins> dpkg -L <header-package-name>
[06:15] <jcadduono> dougbb: are you saying it is impossible to use screen for the task? i really don't want to have to tail -f
[06:15] <Extreminador> it should be something like this to search for directory x --> find / -type d -name "x"
[06:15] <RJ45> big paste coming through!
[06:15] <RJ45> -rw-r--r-- 1 user2 user2 735 Nov 26 03:27 authorized_keys
[06:15] <RJ45> -rw------- 1 user2 user2 3326 Nov 26 04:33 id_rsa
[06:15] <RJ45> -rw-r--r-- 1 user2 user2 748 Nov 26 04:33 id_rsa.pub
[06:15] <RJ45> -rw------- 1 user2 user2 1108 Oct 4 00:06 known_hosts
[06:15] <Extreminador> cause if it is it's not finding nothing
[06:15] <OerHeks> don't paste like that, RJ45
[06:15] <OerHeks> !paste
[06:16] <dougbb> RJ45: the authorized keys file should be 0600
[06:16] <dougbb> and what are the permissions for the directory itself?
[06:16] <RJ45> OerHeks: sorry but it seemed a bit silly to make a pastebin for a paste so small
[06:16] <dougbb> jcadduono: there is nothing wrong with tail -f
[06:16] <jcadduono> dougbb: ok now it's an interactive script
[06:16] <dougbb> and over-dependence on screen makes for a lazy/uncreative sysadmin :0
[06:17] <nitish> How can I book a tatkal ticket from irctc?
[06:17] <RJ45> dougbb: so I should chmod 600 ?
[06:17] <dougbb> RJ45: yes, and answer my other question :)
[06:17] <OerHeks> nitish, wrong channel
[06:18] <nitish> oh.. how can I install WINE?
[06:18] <OerHeks> nitish, you know how, stop trolling please.
[06:18] <RJ45> dougbb: I'm not sure about the directory itself, but should I chmod it 700?
[06:18] <dougbb> RJ45: yes
[06:19] <dougbb> also, look in /var/log/auth.log on machine2, that might have a useful error message
[06:19] <RJ45> okay, after changing the permissions connecting is still the same :/
[06:19] <nitish> OerHeks: sudo apt-get install wine is not working. I need to install stable version i.e. 1.6.2. Do i need to add ppa to repository?
[06:20] <OerHeks> nitish, yes, that is working.
[06:21] <RJ45> Nov 26 06:19:19 user2-ThinkPad-X61 sshd[19649]: Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for directory /home/user2
[06:21] <RJ45> that was in the log
[06:21] <dougbb> yeah, sounds right ... what does ls -l ~ say?
[06:22] <nitish> OerHeks: yeh its working. actually i was checking it by only typing "wine" and install instruction was not appearing. but sudo apt-get install wine is still working.
[06:22] <RJ45> dougbb: all the permission for every file in my home
[06:22] <dougbb> sorry
[06:22] <dougbb> 'ls -ld !
[06:22] <dougbb> err
[06:23] <dougbb> ls -ld ~
[06:23] <dougbb> that'll show just the directory
[06:23] <RJ45> drwxrwxrwx 49 user2 user2 4096 Nov 26 03:50 /home/user2
[06:24] <dougbb> ok, that's a whole new set of problems :)
[06:24] <dougbb> chmod 0755 ~
[06:24] <RJ45> oh my lord, what rabbit hole have I dragged myself into.. x_x
[06:25] <dougbb> you haven't ... you're following guides instead of understanding what you're doing :) That's a problem that can only be solved by experience, unfortunately
[06:25] <RJ45> before I chmod it, I want to understand, what is the problem?, I have no problem accessing anything in my home directory as the user
[06:25] <dougbb> do you know what those permissions mean?
[06:26] <RJ45> vaguely, I know chmod 777 is party time for everyone :P
[06:26] <dougbb> well there you go
[06:27] <dougbb> that's very insecure, and ssh is all about security
[06:27] <RJ45> heheh
[06:27] <RJ45> what confuses me is how machine 2 got so messed-up in the first place
[06:28] <dougbb> the uncharitable answer is that you probably followed a guide of some sort :)
[06:28] <RJ45> ahah good one
[06:29] <OerHeks> it is all there > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[06:29] <RJ45> well after hours of me throwing my limited experience at the problem, and about an hour of help from folks here, ssh is now working with public keys for me, great :D
[06:29] <RJ45> thank you to all those who helped me :)
[06:30] <dougbb> Glad to do it RJ45, and in all seriousness, we all started somewhere :)
[06:30] <logglog> hello everyone is it possible to connect to a ubuntu laptop over internet, to use his printer for printing. We are not on the same network (logical).
[06:31] <RJ45> dougbb: I should really know more than what I know though, I have been using Linux OSs since I was 15, I am now 21
[06:32] <jcadduono> dougbb: found the solution! ssh -t user@host "tmux new -s dostuff \"VER=$VER /home/user/build/do-release.sh\""
[06:33] <OerHeks> logglog, sure, basicly https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu?action=show&redirect=Samba%2FPrinterSharing
[06:33] <Guest16452> please tell me the command how to count the words from a file in ubuntu
[06:34] <somsip> Guest16452: wc
[06:34] <OerHeks> LibreOffice counts words standard
[06:36] <rogger_h> i got some issue, i get *1 directory index of "/usr/share/nginx/html/" is forbidden, on the error log
[06:36] <rogger_h> ideas?
[06:36] <daftykins> permissions, check them
[06:36] <somsip> rogger_h: sounds like a nginx.conf issue. Maybe ask in #nginx or similar
[06:36] <dougbb> yeah, not really a ubuntu issue :)
[06:37] <dougbb> rogger_h: the good news is that it's easy to fix, and the #nginx folks should be able to help you out :)
[06:39] <rogger_h> they are not asnwering for days
[06:40] <logglog> OerHeks: thx i will check it right now
[06:40] <dougbb> rogger_h: have you tried a web search on that error message?
[06:40] <rogger_h> yes cound find something helpfull
[06:41] <daftykins> i already mentioned permissions...
[06:41] <dougbb> rogger_h: http://nginxlibrary.com/enable-directory-listing/
[06:41] <daftykins> likely, nginx executes as a user which does not have rights over /usr/share/nginx/html/
[06:42] <dougbb> ... and if that doesn't work, what daftykins said :)
[06:43] <rogger_h> hmm
[06:43] <rogger_h> location /somedir { autoindex on;
[06:43] <rogger_h> there is "somedir"
[06:44] <rogger_h> i dont get it , if i put here subdir how could it help
[06:44] <rogger_h> daftykins: maybe, how can i check that
[06:44] <dougbb> rogger_h: this really isn't the right place for basic web server configuration
[06:45] <daftykins> ps -ef | grep nginx ; to see what user it runs as; then "ls -al /usr/share/nginx/" to see what the html folder is owned as
[06:45] <daftykins> rogger_h: then visit the nginx docs site and learn how to actually use it, as you strike me as a beginner
[06:46] <rogger_h> drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4096 Nov 26 01:49 html
[06:47] <fullstack> anybody have luck with vmware and ubuntu 14.04?
[06:47] <Extreminador> what key's i need to press to exist --> Escape character is '^]'. ??
[06:47] <dougbb> fullstack: define "luck" :)
[06:47] <fullstack> like it works
[06:47] <dougbb> Extreminador: that's Ctrl-]
[06:48] <dougbb> fullstack: ubuntu as the host, or as a guest?
[06:48] <fullstack> host
[06:48] <Extreminador> not working dougbb
[06:48] <Extreminador> ctrl + "key 9"
[06:49] <logglog> OerHeks: How can find the URL for the Ubuntu i want to connect with for printing
[06:49] <dougbb> Ok ... I used to use it that a lot ... worked fine ... there were some patches that needed to be applied for the kernel modules, but that may be fixed in newer versions of vmware
[06:49] <dougbb> Extreminador: I'm not sure what key 9 is supposed to be .... you need to use the right square bracket
[06:49] <dougbb> The ] key
[06:49] <rogger_h> ok i change chown/chgrp permission so now im like nginx nginx 4096 Nov 26 01:49 html
[06:49] <rogger_h> but still not working
[06:50] <dougbb> rogger_h: did you change the config to enable directory listing as described in the page I pasted for you?
[06:50] <daftykins> rogger_h: well you didn't actually share the result of the first, so as fun as commenting on 50% of the information is
[06:50] <dougbb> it's not on by default
[06:50] <Extreminador> yehh the key 9 on a portuguese keyboard has 3 function ... the 9 (no need to press any other key), the ( need to press shift+9 and the ] need to press altgr+9
[06:51] <fullstack> guys should I start eating the thanksgiving food right now?
[06:51] <fullstack> j/k
[06:51] <rogger_h> now the folder is owned by nginx
[06:51] <logglog> Hey ppl is there a way to put spellchecking in libreoffice off, I cant find that option even searching the net
[06:51] <Extreminador> dougbb need to press ctrl+altgr+9
[06:51] <dougbb> Extreminador: looks that way
[06:51] <Extreminador> worked now
[06:51] <Extreminador> mybe i miss press
[06:52] <daftykins> rogger_h: right but what user does nginx run as...
[06:52] <logglog> found
[06:53] <rogger_h> hmm
[06:53] <rogger_h> i dont know that how to answer that
[06:53] <dougbb> rogger_h: you would, if you were paying attention :)
[06:53] <daftykins> rogger_h: by running "ps -ef | grep nginx" as mentioned first.
[06:53] <daftykins> rogger_h: it's immensely useful to read advice that's given
[06:54] <rogger_h> let me show u the results
[06:54] <daftykins> if it's multiple lines, pasting into the channel would require immediate seppuku
[06:54] <rogger_h> http://pastie.org/private/e6fdr0cl34ohqsb593qkpq
[06:55] <daftykins> now you should restart nginx
[06:56] <rogger_h> i did that already
[06:56] <rogger_h> and nothing
[06:56] <daftykins> what are you even doing to test... what's in the document root?
[06:57] <rogger_h> its a website
[06:57] <rogger_h> i mvoed to another server
[06:57] <daftykins> so there's an index in there? are the files all owned by nginx too?
[06:57] <dougbb> if it's a website, you probably don't want directory indexing on by default anyway :)
[06:58] <daftykins> ls -al /usr/share/nginx/html/
[06:58] <daftykins> you probably shouldn't be doing web admin if you're tripping up at these basics
[06:59] <rogger_h> yes i know but im stuck here and need help
[07:00] <daftykins> still waiting...
[07:00] <dougbb> what kind of website is it? basic html? php? something else?
[07:00] <justin_k> Can anyone help with diagnose my crash reports?
[07:01] <rogger_h> magento website
[07:01] <daftykins> oy
[07:02] <dougbb> yeah, that's going to be way beyond the ability of a neophyte web admin to deal with
[07:03] <daftykins> this is what we get all the time; youngsters going "i really want to set this up quickly!" - you're going to get your ass hacked. you don't know how to drive this product, don't know how to administrate it... set it up... anything.
[07:03] <daftykins> and now you want to use an ecommerce platform, potentially deal with folks real money - just no.
[07:03] <justin_k> Whenever I boot it takes maybe 2 minutes to get to the lock screen and then I have 3 System Error reports
[07:03] <hello9> anyone ever developer iphone apps (objective-c) on ubuntu? if so, what did you use? (virtual machine?)
[07:04] <daftykins> justin_k: a problem happening once is kept in the log path and will be displayed on every boot, so there might not even be anything wrong
[07:04] <fullstack> hello9, its practically impossible
[07:04] <dougbb> justin_k: what kind of graphics driver do you have?
[07:04] <justin_k> ive cleared my crash folder and it still happens
[07:04] <justin_k> geforce
[07:04] <dougbb> ah, ok
[07:04] <hello9> @fullstack yeh i figured, i heard the ram itself on a vm has to be like 4gb or something haha
[07:04] <rogger_h> daftykins: so what is ur suggestion?
[07:04] <rogger_h> how do i continue from here
[07:05] <daftykins> rogger_h: i already asked for info and didn't receive it, so i'm done
[07:05] <daftykins> cya
[07:05] <rogger_h> what info?
[07:05] <rogger_h> i didnt see ur request
[07:05] <dougbb> rogger_h: you need to pay someone who is knowledgeable to admin this for you ... you really want a full-service hosting platform of some sort
[07:05] <rogger_h> i was searching , didnt find someone
[07:06] <fullstack> hello9, the problems are multiple. You can run open source software on a rooted iphone, but there isn't a big enough community to keep the toolchain up to date and user base for the applications. The apple app store is superior. unfortunately its very locked down to osx/xcode. You can run osx in a virtual machine under ubuntu however. And then there's stuff like PhoneGap, Ionic, and React Native
[07:06] <hello9> @fullstack ah i see, thx
[07:06] <fullstack> hello9, but running OSX in a virtual machine is crappy. Its easier to just buy a mac
[07:07] <dougbb> rogger_h: keep looking :)
[07:07] <hello9> yeah, i dont really like macs tho
[07:07] <hello9> haha
[07:07] <hello9> but obj-c looks like a weird language
[07:07] <hello9> kinda wanted to see what was going on there
[07:07] <hello9> practically
[07:08] <somsip> hello9: you can setup the gnustep libraries and compile objC to have a play, but you wont get the iOS SDK on there AFAICT
[07:08] <dougbb> rogger_h: you don't want a person, you want a company ... a full-service e-commerce platform
[07:08] <hello9> @somsip yes, i saw that. thanks.
[07:08] <rogger_h> i just need an hour for someone who fix that for me
[07:08] <rogger_h> thats it
[07:09] <dougbb> rogger_h: no, you don't ... what daftykins said is very true
[07:09] <rogger_h> why
[07:09] <dougbb> this is too complex for you to handle
[07:09] <somsip> rogger_h: go to a freelancer site and make an ad. But you're waaaay off topic and frankly a bit whiney now
[07:09] <dougbb> you are so inexperienced you don't even know how impossible what you're asking is
[07:09] <dougbb> that's not an insult, it's just a fact
[07:12] <rogger_h> hmm
[07:12] <rogger_h> ok
[07:13] <rogger_h> thanks for the time
[07:13] <dougbb> good luck
[07:14] <bray90820> How well does ubuntu work with a 10 inch touchscreen moniter
[07:28] <Guest24350> Hi. Can someone please explain these errors to me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/13512749/
[07:31] <OerHeks> Guest24350, line 14/15 some usb device is not working, or port not working
[07:32] <Guest24350> OerHeks: What about the i2c_hid errors? What are those for?
[07:34] <OerHeks> Guest24350, could be a keyboard, touchpad, you tell us
[07:34] <Guest24350> OerHeks: Everthing works
[07:37] <Guest24350> OerHeks: So if touchpad, keyboard, and touchscreen all work. Why is this error appearing? Is it for something else?
[07:37] <ubuntu526> join
[08:00] <trudko> Hi guys, are there any concrete plans or ideas how to improve battery life and power management in Ubuntu? I am not asking about tools like TLP here I am curious if there are plans to make battery magamenet easier and battery life better
[08:14] <leeyaa> hello
[08:14] <explodes> I tried in #monit, but that is a very slow/dead channel. "using tlsv12" in my email configuration gives me: :3: Warning: hostname did not resolve 'tlsv12'
[08:14] <leeyaa> i need to start a service with ionice setting. on centos there is a NICELEVEL variable at /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions is there something similar for ubuntu ?
[08:15] <leeyaa> can i just edit the init.d script and add nice level from there ?
[08:16] <barnex> leeyaa: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Stanzas#nice I think this
[08:17] <leeyaa> barnex: i need ionie
[08:17] <leeyaa> ionice*
[08:19] <barnex> leeyaa: oh ok, seems like here is some advice how to work around lack of stanza: https://bugs.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/1082645
[08:20] <bingo> i want to be a linux admin ,,,, what should i do ?
[08:20] <barnex> bingo: get a job administrating linux boxes
[08:20] <leeyaa> barnex: not sure how this will work. do i include the extra file or something ?
[08:21] <barnex> leeyaa: dunno, maybe someone else knows.
[08:22] <barnex> bingo: just look what they are looking for in jobs offers, sometimes it's as easy as 'knows some linux', sometimes certificates and/or formal education is required
[08:23] <barnex> bingo: I started as a code monkey, but we had no admin at the time and my work sort of went that direction, since everyone was linux-clueless, learned random stuff like db replication, heartbeat and rack servers on my way up from apache virtual machine running drupal
[08:35] <OerHeks>
[08:36] <asad__> Hi. I want to disable all the output that appears before the ubuntu splash screen. How can I do that?
[08:43] <rogger_h> guys, there is a way to tell my old server to redirect all data to the new server?
[08:45] <clorisu> ah crap. i was changing all my passwords with randomly generated keepassx strings and the program crashed before i saved it. does anyone know if it stores a temp file or anything? otherwise im locked out from the accounts
[08:45] <asad__> how do I get rid of all the messages that appear before the ubuntu splash screen appears?
[08:53] <C00nHunter> niggers?
[08:53] <C00nHunter> any niggers use Grav in Ubuntu ?
[08:54] <barnex> how to get banned 101
[08:54] <C00nHunter> a Content Management System [CMS]
[08:54] <VenomByte> anyone need help?
[08:55] <kloeri> C00nHunter: drop the stupidity
[08:55] <Old_Dog> I've been told that I do.
[08:55] <Old_Dog> need help, that is
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[08:58] <VenomByte> omg that guy
[08:58] <Old_Dog> that sort of thing happen often here?
[08:59] <niyaz> hi
[08:59] <VenomByte> Old_Dog: never seen that before lol
[08:59] <VenomByte> niyaz: hi
[09:00] <Old_Dog> hope to never see it again. heh
[09:00] <Old_Dog> clear
[09:00] <VenomByte> Old_Dog: lame
[09:00] <VenomByte> Old_Dog: u need help?
[09:00] <Old_Dog> yeah
[09:00] <Old_Dog> for sure
[09:01] <VenomByte> Old_Dog: with?
[09:01] <Old_Dog> with? oh, need help you mean?
[09:01] <VenomByte> Old_Dog: I was asking if you needed any help :)
[09:03] <Old_Dog> Just would like to be able to move my panel off the monitor it insists on being on, onto the other monitor. Mate DE
[09:03] <Old_Dog> Seems to be a Mate issue. Does the same thing on LinuxMint.
[09:04] <Old_Dog> Not a terribly important issue, just would like to have it where I want it.
[09:06] <VenomByte> Old_Dog: I don't use Mate DE, can't help you sorry
[09:07] <VenomByte> Old_Dog: I mostly use cinnamon, unity, gnome-shell and some other stuff
[09:07] <Old_Dog> no problem
[09:07] <Old_Dog> thanks anyway
[09:08] <dangermouse> How do I replace a nameserver entry, without restarting networking/interface? Updating /etc/network/interface is easy enough, but how do "sync" the change with resolvconf and then /etc/resolv.conf, ensuring to only replace the old ip with the new?
[09:15] <SCHAAP137> should i get nVidia or AMD GPU? and why?
[09:16] <Old_Dog> nVidia I would say. Fewer compatibility issues.
[09:17] <Old_Dog> or better linux support from nVidia, I guess is the way I should have said that.
[09:18] <Old_Dog> wow! lots of folks coming and going. Not staying very long. seems strange.
[09:36] <Guest51006> hello
[09:36] <trijntje> hi there
[09:41] <eminent> hi, i am a noob, having trouble connecting to a wifi network that uses WPA2 Enterprize auth when i connect with my iphone, im asked for a username and password. then im presented with a digital certificate. i choose trust and thats it. phone is connected im trying to connect to the same network from kali linux , i provided the required information(uname and passwd) and kept the certificate field empty, i skipped the ca cert part becau
[09:42] <zero> hi
[09:42] <eminent> hello
[09:42] <Guest78405> hello
[09:44] <trijntje> eminent: your message got truncated after "i skipped the ca cert"
[09:48] <qu4nt1n> !s ncis new orleans
[10:03] <e66> I have a package myserver-23 installed. But I pushed myserver-22 in the tip of apt server. Now if i install myserver following an apt-get update it doesnt' install version 22. It says still in the newest version.
[10:04] <k1l> e66: apt-cache policy <packagename>
[10:04] <jundat95> oh
[10:04] <jundat95> hello
[10:06] <trijntje> a lot of people saying hello today ;)
[10:08] <e66> k1l: in the output I see something like this, http://dpaste.com/1BQW9YE
[10:09] <k1l> e66: apt will always take the highest version number if its not pinned. you can either use apt-get install package:versionnumber or use pinning to restrict it to a version
[10:10] <e66> how to use the pinning?
[10:10] <e66> k1l: ?
[10:11] <k1l> !pinning
[10:11] <k1l> e66: ^
[10:15] <hesher> dunno if this is the place for this but, netflix on xubuntu? (im new to this)
[10:16] <Skyrider> Anyone here knows a good (free) bandwidth monitor for mysql?
[10:17] <mcphail> hesher: install chrome, and netflix will work
[10:19] <hesher> oh thanks. Did you type my name or is there a reply function?
[10:21] <mcphail> hesher: just type the first couple of characters in a name then press "tab" to complete. The IRC client will highlight messages with your own nick
[10:22] <hesher> mcphail, neat thx
[10:25] <Skyrider> no one?
[10:33] <VenomByte> Skyrider: sup?
[10:33] <Skyrider> I'm looking for a bandwidth monitor for mysql ^^.
[10:34] <VenomByte> Skyrider: mytop? :D
[10:34] <Skyrider> web, preferred.
[10:35] <Skyrider> Like awstats, generating daily usage.
[10:36] <VenomByte> Skyrider: did you lookup for new relic? and maybe this can be something? http://www.monitor.us/
[10:36] <VenomByte> Skyrider: I don't use any monitor myself
[10:38] <Skyrider> I'll have a looky, thanks.
[10:39] <tanulo3> szevasztok cigányok
[10:40] <jatt> igen
[10:41] <Skyrider> VenomByte: Do you see any 'mysql' monitor feature on the site? :o
[10:41] <Skyrider> As I can't appear to find any.
[10:42] <nitish> In default ubuntu ui how can I switch/add a new workspace? ctrl+alt+up/down (like gnome-shell) is not working.
[10:44] <jiggerypokery> hello, when I shutdown I get the following error; Error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Could not connect: No such file or directory (g-io-error-quark, 1)
[10:45] <jiggerypokery> I've googled around and it looks like the issue is to do with /dev/sdb2 not unmounting correctly
[10:45] <jiggerypokery> this happens to be my boot volume, ext2 on an ssd
[10:46] <VenomByte> Skyrider: I'm pretty sure new relic has
[10:46] <nitish> How can I change/add workspace in 14.04?
[10:46] <cap0> nitish: i think workspaces are disabled by default in unity now. you can enable them in unity-tweak-tool (I think)
[10:46] <jiggerypokery> From journalctl -xb >>>> systemd-fsck[686]: /dev/sdb2 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced.
[10:46] <VenomByte> nitish: u can use ubuntu tweak or compiz setting manager for this
[10:47] <jiggerypokery> On startup I always boot into emergency mode
[10:47] <jiggerypokery> ubuntu itself seems to operate correctly but not being able to cleanly shutdown is clearly a problem
[10:47] <nitish> cap0: & VenomByte: Where in ubuntu-tweak?
[10:47] <jiggerypokery> can anyone help?
[10:49] <nitish> there is no on/off setting in ubuntu-tweak for workspace.
[10:50] <cap0> nitish: that's probably it, and there should be a setting to adjust the number of workspaces too somewhere. I'm on Ubuntu-Gnome, so I don't have unity-tweak-tool installed
[10:52] <nitish> cap0: is gnome better than unity?
[10:52] <nitish> cap0: I've also gnome installed, not like that much.
[10:54] <Arunangshu> Patching WiFi adaptor on Ubuntu it worked while patching it on elementary OS it doesn't why and how to solve it
[10:54] <gerep> Hello good people. I have an id_rsa.pub key with permission 0600 ( I think that is the correct one ) and I'm trying to add it to my ssh-agent like this: ssh-add ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub but it asks for password but when I created it, I didn't define any password
[10:54] <gerep> What am I doing wrong?
[10:55] <gerep> To make a test I created another key but the same problem happens
[10:58] <nitish> In gnome transparancy in terminal is not working. Is this a bug? Or how can I fix this?
[10:59] <Arunangshu> Patching WiFi adaptor on Ubuntu it worked while patching it on elementary OS it doesn't why and how to solve it
[11:01] <shredding> if i do sudo apt-add-repository ppa:brightbox/ruby-ng in 14.04 i receive "sudo: apt-add-repository: command not found"
[11:01] <shredding> how's that?
[11:01] <anto> Hi guys, my Lenovo ThinkPad X61s's wifi seems to be disabled most of the time, showing "Wifi disabled by hardware switch". The only option for a "hardware switch" seems to be the 'Fn' + F2 key combination, which does not seem to have any effect on this disabled status, from within Ubuntu 14.04. What could be a possible fix?
[11:02] <nitish> anto: Do you have dual boot?
[11:02] <Arunangshu> Patching WiFi adaptor on Ubuntu it worked while patching it on elementary OS it doesn't why and how to solve it
[11:03] <anto> Yes, windows xp, but not functional
[11:04] <anto> nitish, I tried one option which suggested resetting the bios, but that seems to work only for the first boot.
[11:05] <nitish> anto: wifi and bluetooth effects in the dual boot. If you want to use them without problem then don't turn it off in other os.
[11:06] <anto> okay
[11:06] <anto> nitish, Thank You!
[11:06] <kostkon> !elementary | Arunangshu
[11:07] <gerep> shredding: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=sudo%3A+apt-add-repository%3A+command+not+found&t=canonical first result
[11:07] <Arunangshu> Patching WiFi adaptor on Ubuntu it worked while patching it on elementary OS it doesn't why and how to solve it
[11:08] <killall> Sorry, user someone is not allowed to execute '/usr/local/bin/script.sh" as someone on server1
[11:08] <killall> how do i fix this?
[11:09] <anto> nitish, Man! There was a wifi switch! While all the time till now till my last Ubuntu update, it worked out of the box even though the switch was in OFF position!
[11:09] <anto> nitish, http://demongin.org/blog/816/ - seems I'm not the only one! :D
[11:09] <anto> nitish, Thanks a lot for the help man!
[11:09] <anto> nitish++
[11:09] <nitish> anto: most welcome.
[11:12] <gerep> killall: give us some background
[11:13] <gerep> killall: what we can say is that the user doesn't have permission to execute that file, that's all
[11:13] <seckin> hello everyone. I make a custom CD. Everything is okey. I burn CD. I can boot from CD and install it. But I use dd,cp or rsync clone USB stick I can't boot it. Could you help me?
[11:19] <hateball> seckin: is the partition marked bootable on the usb?
[11:26] <Arunangshu> Patching WiFi adaptor on Ubuntu it worked while patching it on elementary OS it doesn't why and how to solve it
[11:27] * TheHawk
[11:34] <vooze> Hi, I just compiled my own kernel and it all works great. But when I run apt-get upgrade it tries to replace it with ubuntu one. How can I stop that?
[11:36] <Arunangshu> Patching WiFi adaptor on Ubuntu it worked while patching it on elementary OS it doesn't why and how to solve it
[11:36] <Arunangshu> Please help
[11:37] <cfhowlett> Arunangshu, elementary is not ubuntu and is not supported here.
[11:38] <nitish> Arunangshu: What is elementary? Is this an OS?
[11:38] <logglog> Hello everyone, does ubuntu have a desktop calendar (planner) tool like gnome, so that it remmembers me for example this tuesday to do something
[11:38] <cfhowlett> !elementary | Arunangshu
[11:38] <logglog> nitish: yes elementaryos google t
[11:38] <hesher> is there way to make my terminal semi opaque?
[11:39] <cfhowlett> hesher, probably. see your terminal settings
[11:39] <nitish> hesher: In unity go to edit > profile preference > background and then tick the trancparency.
[11:40] <logglog> hesher go to edit menu then -> profile preferences ->colors-> check the transparent background
[11:40] <hesher> yeah i shoulda checked first
[11:40] <hesher> thx
[11:41] <nitish> hesher: Is there any way to work it in gnome?
[11:42] <hesher> nitish, as a new xubuntu user, i dont know what gnome is
[11:42] <cfhowlett> hesher, xubuntu? the xubuntu terminal has transparency options
[11:43] <hesher> cfhowlett, yeah i got it thanks
[11:43] <cfhowlett> preferences > appearance > background > transparent
[11:48] <cap0> nitish: gnome-terminal has removed transparancy. replace it with another terminal if you want transparancy
[11:49] <nitish> cap0: I replaced with terminator. but it was too ugly.
[12:08] <sruli1> anyone know how to resize a VeraCrypt volume in ubuntu?
[12:11] <bozsikarmand> sruli1, maybe it will do the job for you: http://sourceforge.net/p/veracrypt/discussion/general/thread/c011ff54/
[12:12] <sruli1> bozsikarmand: its a windows only tool, heave searched the net for days, cant find an answer
[12:14] <ioria> TJ- don't know if you recall the boot error of yesterday, but i found the link http://codeyarns.com/2015/09/12/missing-parameter-error-on-boot-from-ubuntu-startup-disk/
[12:24] <sruli> I have a multiboot system, 2 of the partitions are LUKS, how can i update grub for all? i know how to update-grub when 1 partition is LUKS but failing miserably when 2 are LUKS
[12:25] <TheHawk> list
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:34] <boxmein> ohai, how would I go about adding two python2 scripts onto auto-launch since they're custom unity indicators
[12:37] <mgs41987> hi guys having a strange issue,randomly my usb headset mutes itself in the day, i ring people off my voip and they can hear me one minute then on another call it dont. and i have to restart to make it work, then i discovered when i open up sound settings my device shows no sound levels when i speak and if i press mute then unmute and it works again. so i looked it up and alsa mixer has automute but when i open alsa it doesn
[12:37] <mgs41987> level
[12:37] <lcmatt> On 15.10 what's the easiest way to install php 5.5, all I seem to be able to get is 5.6
[12:37] <mgs41987> i have also disabled my onboard through bios but it shows still in alsa by the looks of it but i cant do anything with it
[12:46] <jhasse> How can I install libsystemd-journal-dev in 15.10? apt install tells me `E: Package 'libsystemd-journal-dev' has no installation candidate` although it's here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily/+package/libsystemd-journal-dev
[12:47] <thecheshirecat> hi everybody
[12:47] <thecheshirecat> i come back here because my problem isn't solved
[12:47] <thecheshirecat> i have an asus E202s running ubuntu wily
[12:48] <thecheshirecat> when it's running on battery, it freezes during boot at line Starting WPA Supplicant
[12:48] <thecheshirecat> when the power cable is connected, it's ok
[12:48] <thecheshirecat> TJ-: i have tried acpi_osi with Windows
[12:48] <thecheshirecat> it doesn't change anything
[12:49] <thecheshirecat> same bug under fedora, xenial, wily
[12:50] <cfhowlett> thecheshirecat, and you filed a bug report???
[12:51] <mike_> hi
[12:51] <thecheshirecat> i have asked on ubuntu-fr's forum (i'm french)
[12:52] <thecheshirecat> and on ubuntuforums.com
[12:52] <cfhowlett> so ... DID you file a bug or not?
[12:52] <Guest29627> higuys
[12:52] <Guest29627> i got a problem
[12:52] <Guest29627> cant shut down ubuntu
[12:52] <Guest29627> hang at ubuntu logo
[12:53] <Guest29627> need helps
[12:53] <thecheshirecat> not yet... how can i do that ?
[12:53] <cfhowlett> !bug | thecheshirecat
[12:55] <thecheshirecat> is it really necessary O_o ?
[12:56] <cfhowlett> thecheshirecat, no bug report likely = no fix.
[13:03] <thecheshirecat> i can't find the form, and apport is off on my computer
[13:04] <thecheshirecat> same problem here
[13:04] <thecheshirecat> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2152760.html
[13:04] <Westerdutch> Hey guys, im trying to configure my ubuntu server so i can access it externally but it simply will not work. Is there any configuration im missing somewhere? I have set up my router correctly (works when i access a different server with same settings), ive opened firewall on ubuntu, enabled the ssh stuff but it simply will not work
[13:04] <cfhowlett> bug reports go to the people who fix bugs. forum complaints do not.
[13:04] <nitish> how can I change startup lock screen background image?
[13:04] <cfhowlett> Westerdutch, might want to ask #ubuntu-server
[13:05] <Westerdutch> well im not running ubuntu server, im running ubuntu desktop as server but hey, ill ask over there anyways! thx o7
[13:09] <whatsinaname> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER whatsinaname ruzmweaaoynx
[13:09] <cfhowlett> and now we have your password ...
[13:09] <dfused> mwaaaahahahahaa
[13:09] <whatsinaname> hahaha.. noobie
[13:09] <whatsinaname> but it's a verification one :P
[13:09] <whatsinaname> so doesn't really matter
[13:09] <whatsinaname> :P
[13:10] <nitish> haha.. :)
[13:16] <badbodh> nitish, ubuntu/unity?
[13:17] <nitish> badodh? I have both gnome and unity.
[13:18] <nitish> badodh: I have both gnome and unity.
[13:18] <hexhaxtron> I'm trying to use ALSA instead of PulseAudio. I removed pulseaudio, rebooted and now I get no sound at all. What should I do?
[13:18] <badbodh> nitish, type first 2-3 letters and press tab, nick auto-completes
[13:19] <nitish> badbodh: why!!! I already know that.
[13:19] <badbodh> nitish, did you use default ubuntu desktop or ubuntugnome edition ? they have different login managers
[13:19] <badbodh> you didn;t highlight me correctly. can't see notifications if you don;t highlight :)
[13:19] <nitish> badbodh: I need to change the background of login
[13:20] <nitish> which appears at startup
[13:20] <badbodh> so, ubuntu default or ubuntugnome ?
[13:20] <nitish> anyone.
[13:20] <nitish> I have both.
[13:20] <nitish> I can use any1 if I get solution.
[13:20] <badbodh> ... ok. run in terminal "ls /etc/lightdm|pastebinit"
[13:20] <badbodh> share url
[13:21] <badbodh> install 'pastebinit' if you don;t have it installed
[13:23] <nitish> badbodh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13514539/
[13:23] <badbodh> on second thought, doesn;t unity inherit whatever wallpaper you set on your user account ?
[13:24] <nitish> wallpaper doesn't shows at startup screen.
[13:24] <badbodh> is your wallpaper located in another partition ?
[13:24] <ainu> ciao
[13:25] <nitish> no
[13:25] <nitish> badbodh: its in default ubuntu partition.
[13:26] <badbodh> nitish, ok. easy way, just copy your wallpaper file in /usr/share/backgrounds folder (sudo cp .....)
[13:26] <badbodh> then set it as your background
[13:27] <badbodh> restart lightdm service to verify ( exact command depends on which ubuntu version you got)
[13:28] <nitish> badbodh: how can i restart lightdm service to verify? I have ubuntu 14.04.2 lts
[13:29] <badbodh> run "sudo service lightdm restart"
[13:33] <asuio> OK guys, im in serious probs!
[13:34] <asuio> mount point /cdrom is auto mounted at one of my NTFS partitions on my local HD
[13:34] <asuio> this is wrong the /cdrom should point directly to my USB stick
[13:35] <asuio> ... /cdrom /dev/sdb1 fuseblk rw,relatime,user_id is wrong device
[13:35] <p4trix> My computer freezes on Ubuntu 14.03 after this last update I just pulled in. Any idea on how to fix/set it back?
[13:35] <asuio> sdb1 is my local NTFS disk
[13:36] <badbodh> actually cdrom should point at cdrom only
[13:36] <badbodh> everything else goes to /media/<user> or /mnt (if you set it up in fstab)
[13:37] <badbodh> run "cat /etc/fstab" "lsblk" "blkid" and share all output on pastebin
[13:38] <badbodh> p4trix, what did you upgrade ?
[13:39] <nitish> badbodh: I am unable to paste image in /usr/share/backgrounds. I pasted it with sudo but that is not showing in normal user.
[13:39] <p4trix> The Ubuntu update center did show me 1 update. I have it configured automatically badbodh
[13:39] <cfhowlett> nitish, reboot
[13:39] <badbodh> nitish, did your login background change ?
[13:40] <nitish> badbodh: unable to paste any image in this folder. login background only changing with the images which are in this folder.
[13:40] <asuio> damn i think i know the error, now its ubuntu login but before it was lubuntu
[13:40] <hexhaxtron> Can someone help me make ALSA work?
[13:41] <p4trix> badbodh, there are quite a few updates: im-config, libpoppler-glib8, libpoppler44, openjsk-7-jdk, openjsdk-7-jre-headless, ...
[13:41] <badbodh> nitish, it's a permissions problem then. run "ls -l /usr/share/backgrounds|pastebinit"
[13:42] <asuio> cat /etc/fstab
[13:42] <asuio> overlay / overlay rw 0 0
[13:42] <asuio> ... /dev/sdb1 /cdrom fuseblk rw
[13:42] <nitish> badbodh: got this output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13514639/
[13:43] <asuio> sdb1 8:17 0 149G 0 part /cdrom
[13:43] <dank> Hi
[13:43] <mgs41987> 12:37:59 - mgs41987: hi guys having a strange issue,randomly my usb headset mutes itself in the day, i ring people off my voip and they can hear me one minute then on another call it dont. and i have to restart to make it work, then i discovered when i open up sound settings my device shows no sound levels when i speak and if i press mute then unmute and it works again. so i looked it up and alsa mixer has automute but when
[13:43] <mgs41987> the device just
[13:43] <mgs41987> 12:37:59 - mgs41987: level
[13:43] <asuio> this is wrong, the /cdrom points to my local NTFS disk
[13:44] <badbodh> asuio, copy fstab to another location for backup, edit that line. use /mnt/<somename> instead of /cdrom
[13:45] <badbodh> nitish, that eagle wallpaper thingy ?
[13:46] <asuio> file propertys says: loaction: /media taget file: /cdrom is this correct?
[13:46] <nitish> badbodh, now able to paste image in this folder. but when I right click and click on set as wallpaper its gives warning that another file with same name exists in wallpaper folder, do you want to replace. I click on yes but wallpaper doesn't change.
[13:46] <nitish> badbodh: yes that eagly image.
[13:46] <asuio> what should i write in fstab then?
[13:47] <asuio> i think this should be my /cdrom: /dev/sdd1 /media/ubuntu/UUI vfat
[13:48] <badbodh> nitish, if you notice your paste, eagle file doesn't have read access unlike all others in the list
[13:48] <asuio> thats in /etc/mtab
[13:48] <badbodh> nitish, run "sudo chmod 666 /path/to/file" also please rename that file properly, don;t use + sign
[13:49] <badbodh> syntax is : sudo mv <old> <new>
[13:49] <_ACID_> hey
[13:49] <_ACID_> how can I start use start-stop-daemon for .bin ?
[13:49] <nitish> badbodh: nothing changed with chmod
[13:49] <badbodh> try 0666 then
[13:50] <badbodh> or chmod a+r ....
[13:51] <nitish> badbodh: whats wrong in this command: cd /usr/share/backgrounds/
[13:51] <badbodh> nothing
[13:51] <badbodh> not sure if you need the / at the end
[13:52] <badbodh> nah, doesn;t matter
[13:52] <nitish> even nothing happened with this: sudo chmod a+r /usr/share/backgrounds/
[13:52] <badbodh> whoa! not the folder buddy, the file, the eagle thingy
[13:53] <badbodh> /usr/share/backgrounds/<file>.jpg
[13:54] <asuio> badbodh: what do i type in fstab then?
[13:54] <badbodh> asuio, i'll get back to you. your stuff looks messy :)
[13:55] <asuio> is there a way to disable the /cdrom automount?
[13:55] <nitish> badbodh: I messed up with the folder. now none of any image is accessible in that folder for normal user.
[13:57] <ro0t> service tor restart/reload doesnot changes tor's ip... what can i do?
[13:57] <asuio> blkid only shows this: /dev/sdb1: LABEL="Games1" UUID="220....B" TYPE="ntfs" PAR.....
[13:58] <somsip> ro0t: it will reuse the same route for a specified period, IIRC. You need to restart it with some flag to make it chose a new route. Can't remember what
[13:58] <nitish> badbodh: It looks like it worked. Background has been changed to eagle.png, but not sure about the login background. gonna to check that.
[13:58] <ro0t> sosmip, where can i find that information?
[13:58] <asuio> ok sudo blkid works: /dev/sdd1: LABEL="UUI" UUID="1334" TYPE="vfat" PARTUUID="
[13:58] <badbodh> nitish, run "sudo chmod u=rw,g=r,o=r /usr/share/backgrounds" and see
[13:59] <asuio> should i remove the: ignore_uuid and cdrom-detect/try-usb=true from kernel cmd entry?
[14:00] <badbodh> asuio, hold your horses. we can;t fix self inflicted wounds if you keep running your fingers on terminal :/
[14:00] <badbodh> i was reading a few manpages
[14:00] <asuio> hehe ok ic :)
[14:01] <nitish> badbodh: can I make terminal transparent in gnome?
[14:01] <badbodh> asuio, been a long time i last used ubuntu. maybe you should stick around and wait for someone more competent.
[14:02] <badbodh> if i can figure something out, will let you know
[14:02] <VenomByte> nitish: it is possible in 3.18
[14:02] <centric> Hello all, I'm new to irc
[14:02] <VenomByte> nitish: but it's kinda bugged for me so I do not recomment it
[14:02] <badbodh> nitish, logout and check. gnome-terminal can be trans-ed in ubuntu, check the settings
[14:02] <Seveas> hi centric, we're new to you as well :)
[14:03] <nitish> badbodh: going to check that startup login background has changed or not. and thanks a lot for your kind help.
[14:03] <centric> Hii Seveas, hoping to spend some tym here
[14:03] <badbodh> VenomByte, it's buggy. compiz afterall
[14:03] <VenomByte> badbodh: hehe
[14:03] <samsruti> Hi guys
[14:03] <centric> Guyss i needed some help regarding kernel upgradation
[14:04] <badbodh> hi samsruti
[14:04] <centric> hu samsruti
[14:04] <Seveas> centric: this is a good place to spend time, I've been here since 2004 :) But beware that this channel is for support only. For other topics we have #ubuntu-offtopic.
[14:04] <samsruti> Hi i was trying to help Dekko Team
[14:04] <badbodh> !kernel | centric
[14:04] <samsruti> but i am facing a problem
[14:04] <Seveas> centric: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will update the kernel to the latest one in the repos for your Ubuntu version
[14:04] <samsruti> CMake Error at /var/lib/schroot/chroots/click-ubuntu-sdk-15.04-armhf/usr/share/cmake-3.0/Modules/FindPkgConfig.cmake:429 (message): None of the required 'connectivity-qt1' found Call Stack (most recent call first): CMakeLists.txt:386 (pkg_search_module) CMake Error at /var/lib/schroot/chroots/click-ubuntu-sdk-15.04-armhf/usr/share/cmake-3.0/Modules/FindPkgConfig.cmake:429 (message): None of the required 'gsettings-qt' found
[14:04] <k1l> samsruti: if its about ubuntu touch better ask i #ubuntu-touch
[14:05] <samsruti> cool thanks kll :D
[14:05] <mcphail> samsruti: dekko has its own channel as well
[14:05] <centric> well i know basic of kernel using generic kernel from kernel.ubuntu
[14:05] <Seveas> samsruti: sudo apt-get install libconnectivity-qt1-dev
[14:05] <centric> but wanted to use 4.3.0 for my vivid
[14:05] <asuio> badbodh: BTW i did remove grub-common service and Rc
[14:06] <samsruti> mcphail can you name it
[14:06] <Seveas> centric: best upgrade to wily. vivid will be unsupported in a month anyway.
[14:06] <mcphail> samsruti: i think it is simply #dekko
[14:06] <badbodh> asuio, you've lost me entirely :)
[14:06] <badbodh> start again, state your problem from beginning. i see some folks have come alive here
[14:06] <samsruti> cool :D
[14:06] <samsruti> yeah i am doing that again from beginning
[14:07] <centric> well i dont have any upgrade experience,will upgrading from vivid to wily will lost my data?
[14:07] <Seveas> centric: no, your data will be fine if you follow the upgrade procedure
[14:07] <badbodh> centric, if you don;t have separate /home partition, you -may- lose stuff, although in theory you shouldn;t
[14:07] <mcphail> centric: it shouldn't, but always make sure you have a backup
[14:07] <Seveas> sudo do-release-upgrade
[14:08] <badbodh> +1 to backup, +1 to duplicity \o/
[14:08] <centric> grrr, i'm just downloaded dota2 in /home directory dont want to lost it either. :(
[14:08] <centric> *i've
[14:08] <nitish> badbodh: it worked. startup login background has been changed. thanks again.
[14:08] <Seveas> badbodh: meh. rsync :P
[14:09] <asuio> any one there knows how to edit the fstab file for the /cdrom mount point?
[14:09] <centric> help
[14:09] <mcphail> centric: In the 10+ years I've used Ubuntu, I have never lost data in an upgrade. But backup anyway
[14:09] <badbodh> sure, got rsync too :) haven't automated it yet. dup handles regular backup on mine
[14:09] <centric> mcphail: ty, i'll giv it a shot
[14:09] <centric> can u giv me instruction link.?
[14:10] <badbodh> should be in the release notes
[14:10] <mcphail> centric: see the command Seveas gave you
[14:10] <k1l> centric: upgrades get automated testing before the release. and it should not delete any data from the disk.
[14:10] <Seveas> centric: sudo do-release-upgrade
[14:10] <badbodh> al-bloody-ways read release notes first -.-
[14:10] <sylvainc> hello there, I am having an issue with my trusty (14.04) ubuntu where i cannot make secure network requests to google.com. It seems to come from the fact that the latest ca-certificates package is too old. Is there a way to install latest certificates?
[14:10] <centric> ty seveas
[14:10] <asuio> iwe removed the /etc/init.d/grub-common file is that something with /cdrom error?
[14:10] <Seveas> sylvainc: sudo apt-get install ca-certificates
[14:11] <centric> anyways , i'm just wondering if anyone can give me instructions to kernel recompilation
[14:11] <Seveas> the ca-certificates package in 14.04 is fine. If you have ssl errors even with that installed, you may have a bigger problem (your traffic being intercepted)
[14:11] <sylvainc> Seveas: yes, thanks, it is up to date for the distribution, but too old (20141019)
[14:11] <Seveas> !info ca-certificates trusty
[14:11] <nitish> how can I update gnome-shell?
[14:11] <mcphail> centric: just follow the instructions in the kernel tarball. But there is little or no need to compile a kernel these days
[14:12] <badbodh> asuio, you really need to start with what changes you made right before this problem came up. your case isn;t default behaviour in ubuntu or any distro for that matter
[14:12] <Seveas> nitish: sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:12] <sylvainc> if i copy certificates from another newer linux distribution, then run dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificates, then the google certificte is accepted and i can make my request
[14:12] <_ACID_> how can I use start-stop-daemon for .bin ?
[14:12] <k1l> nitish: get a PPA with a new version in it. ubuntu will not upgrade the version in one release.
[14:12] <nitish> Sevas: I don't want to update everything.
[14:13] <Seveas> nitish: why not?
[14:13] <centric> mcphail: how can i upgrade my 4.0.0 generic kernel to 4.3.0 from https://www.kernel.org/ this link?
[14:13] <Seveas> you don't like bugfixes and security fixes?
[14:13] <itx> _ACID_: what do you mean by .bin?
[14:13] <centric> and not from official ubuntu?
[14:13] <k1l> centric: use the mainline kernels
[14:13] <nitish> Seveas: can't affoard 490 MB data. net speed is not enogh here right now.
[14:13] <Seveas> sylvainc: maybe your local certificats got damaged somehow. sudo apt-get install --reinstall ca-certificates
[14:13] <k1l> centric: or you compile the kernels yourself.
[14:13] <mcphail> centric: as I said, download the kernel tarball and follow the instructions packed inside. it is easy enough to do. But Ubuntu builds mainline kernels for you anyway
[14:14] <mcphail> !mainline | centric
[14:14] <badbodh> k1l, can you check asuio's case, lot of self-inflicted wound. me too stupido to handle
[14:14] <Black> oops, nicht deutsch
[14:14] <sylvainc> Seveas: did that too. Google certificate is from 2 weeks ago, could it be the issue? I can make https requests to other websites, only on google does it fail
[14:14] <_ACID_> itx: i mean binary files
[14:15] <nitish> everything is fine in gnome, but there is only one problem. transparent option is not working. I googled it a lot and got that developers removed this.
[14:15] <centric> k1l: i know i should use mainline kernel which i'm using right know,but just wanted to explore a bit more dats why wanted to use kernel from non-mainline
[14:15] <_ACID_> e.g ./hashcat-cli32.bin
[14:15] <k1l> black: #ubuntu-de für deutsch
[14:16] <flynn> hi
[14:16] <badbodh> nitish, gnome don;t transparent, use mate-terminal there
[14:16] <Black> thx ^^
[14:16] <k1l> centric: you were given the instructions now several times :/ you are going to read yourself into it. if you dont want to use mainline kernels.
[14:16] <jmakov> hi. I'm having troubles with cron. The script says "#!/bin/bash \n service myservice restart". It can be manually executed but when entered into crontab, it doesn't execute
[14:16] <asuio> k1l: can i disable the /cdrom from automouting at bootup?
[14:16] <nitish> badbodh: how to install mate-terminal?
[14:16] <centric> mcphail: i downloaded kernel and tried to follow instructions but there was error
[14:17] <Guest37080> i am from Russia ) where are you from?)
[14:17] <Seveas> jmakov: pastebin what you put in the crontab (and which crontab)
[14:17] <_ACID_> Guest37080: Hey man
[14:17] <badbodh> nitish, like you install any other app ? software center, apt-get install
[14:17] <Guest37080> есть кто из России?
[14:17] <_ACID_> Guest37080: me
[14:17] <Seveas> !ru | Guest37080
[14:18] <k1l> asuio: only for everything autmount.
[14:18] <mcphail> centric: basically download the source, unpack it, change into the source directory, copy the kernel conf from the /boot directory, run "make olddefconfig", run "make menuconfig" to tweak to your needs, run "make" then "sudo make install && sudo make modules_install"
[14:18] <nitish> badbodh: sudo apt-get install mate-terminal gave this E: Unable to locate package mate-terminal. It looks like I need to add ppa to repository.
[14:18] <mcphail> centric: but this is really offtopic here
[14:18] <k1l> nitish: what ubuntu exactly?
[14:19] <nitish> k1l: 14.04.2 lts
[14:19] <jmakov> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/K39ZdwUY
[14:19] <asuio> k1l: is the etc/init.d/grub-common cauing the problem?
[14:19] <k1l> nitish: its in ubuntu since 14.10 (which is dead already so at least 15.04)
[14:19] <centric> i followed similar procedure do u mind to discuss dis in pm | mcphail
[14:19] <k1l> asuio: no
[14:19] <itx> _ACID_: check start-stop-daemon's -x flag
[14:19] <k1l> asuio: grub doesnt have to do anything with mounting a cd
[14:19] <badbodh> nitish, "apt-cache search mate terminal" or search in software centre, i don;t remember the exact name
[14:19] <mcphail> centric: sorry, but I can't do that
[14:20] <asuio> or what is responsible to create/mount /cdrom then?
[14:20] <Seveas> jmakov: you'll probably need to set DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE (and maybe PYTHONPATH and more) in the crontab. Cron doesn't use your environment but a clean one.
[14:20] <system0x001> wich is a best way to install full gnom-shell stack ?
[14:20] <k1l> asuio: either your shut down the cdrom in bios settings or you remove the automounting from the desktop. but that will remove usb mount, too
[14:21] <asuio> the script/service that uses /cdrom is mounting wrong point
[14:21] <k1l> system0x001: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[14:21] <asuio> damn
[14:21] <asuio> is it the /cdrom my REAL DVD-rom ?
[14:21] <asuio> not my USB stick?
[14:22] <system0x001> k1l: wich in allredy gnome-desktop ubuntu-gnome-desktop gnome-shell
[14:22] <k1l> asuio: there is no difference between cdrom and dvd-rom from the linux system view
[14:22] <nitish> I've read somewhere that with terminator I can make terminal transparent in gnome but unable to configure in terminator.
[14:22] <badbodh> system0x001, ubuntu-gnome-desktop is a metapackage, should pull in all dependencies
[14:22] <asuio> but the /cdrom is for the cd device, not the usb stick then?
[14:22] <itx> asuio: IIRC nautilus manages auto-mounting. If you suspect buggy behavior you can inform the gnome guys
[14:23] <k1l> nitish: i have a transparent terminal in unity on 15.10 wich gnome-terminal
[14:23] <k1l> asuio: what is your real issue?
[14:23] <system0x001> kil: one example error load pixmap modlue
[14:23] <centric> nitish: you can transparent gnome-terminal too,
[14:23] <system0x001> kil: manuall install pixmap pack
[14:23] <nitish> k1l: I have also transparent terminal in unity on 14.04 but not in gnome
[14:23] <asuio> i use PCManFM to automount
[14:23] <badbodh> but it won;t be transparent in gnome DE, unity and gnome use different compositors
[14:23] <nitish> centric: how?
[14:23] <k1l> system0x001: sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf
[14:24] <centric> as badbodh said nt in gnome de
[14:24] <k1l> nitish: so could be that mutter disabled it. unity uses compiz
[14:24] <badbodh> gnome doesn;t support transparent terminal, you need to install mate-terminal, xfce's terminal should have glass effect too if i recall
[14:24] <system0x001> kil: allraedy in new version
[14:24] <asuio> k1l: the /cdrom mount point adds the wrong target, its automounting my local NTFS disk!
[14:24] <system0x001> kil: ubuntu 15.05
[14:25] <system0x001> kil: ubuntu 15.04
[14:25] <k1l> system0x001: that package is a depency from gnome-shell already
[14:25] <badbodh> or put in effort to configure urxvt, super fast, transparency enabled, no extraneous features
[14:26] <nitish> I am waiting for ubuntu 16.04 lts which would be release in upcoming April? Is there any release date?
[14:26] <system0x001> kil: i also have no transparent on gnome
[14:26] <asuio> the /cdrom should link to my USB Live stick
[14:26] <system0x001> k1l:terminal
[14:26] <k1l> asuio: ? what did you do there at all?
[14:26] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1 | nitish
[14:26] <badbodh> nitish, .04 hai to april fool me hi release hoga na ?
[14:26] <k1l> system0x001: transparent terminal was removed from gnome devs. see nitish :)
[14:27] <nitish> badbodh: hahahaa... sahi bole bhai.
[14:27] <badbodh> asuio, you got 'pastebinit' installed ?
[14:27] <asuio> k1l: as u can see: sdb1 8:17 0 149G 0 part /cdrom is wrong
[14:27] <asuio> sdb1 is my local NTFS HD
[14:27] <nitish> badbodh: Pleasure to see that you know Hindi. :)
[14:27] <system0x001> k1l: wich is a varrible for nautilus scipt for selected folder ? (bash script ) ?
[14:28] <asuio> the /cdrom point to wrong device/disk
[14:28] <system0x001> k1l: scipts'
[14:28] <k1l> system0x001: if i understand correct you want "pwd" command
[14:28] <badbodh> nitish, 100 me 99 baiman, mera desh mahaan \o
[14:28] <nitish> badbodh: which state bhai?
[14:29] <centric> :v hindi glad to here
[14:29] <system0x001> k1l: much more not in folder (pwd) but selected folder ?
[14:29] <badbodh> nitish, don;t drift away to off-topic waters here :)
[14:29] <k1l> system0x001: i dont understand what you want, sorry.
[14:29] <asuio> k1l: do u know how to point to the right device with the /cdrom ?
[14:29] <centric> exit
[14:30] <nitish> badbodh: hehe.. ok meet me at twitter @NitishDiwakar
[14:30] <badbodh> nitish, /join #ubuntu-offtopic , i don;t use social networking
[14:30] <system0x001> k1l: Select by right click of mouse and then form menu scipt run a scipt - by selected this folder
[14:31] <system0x001> k1l: from*
[14:31] <ttog> Does anyone know how to get marco or compiz to autostart when rebooting ubuntu mate 15.10?
[14:31] <badbodh> asuio, run "cat /etc/fstab" "blkid" and "lsblk" , share the entire output on pastebin, don;t leave anything out or quote a single line out of it
[14:32] <asuio> ill try to disable the damn dvdrom from bios then!
[14:32] <itx> seems a bit harsh
[14:33] <k1l> asuio: can you show the output of "mount" in a pastebin?
[14:33] <ech0_2g> Happy Thanksgiving!
[14:33] <k1l> asuio: and a "sudo parted -l"
[14:33] <badbodh> well, it's a free world. if you don;t provide info as asked can;t really help here
[14:33] <ttog> http://pastebin.com/2nrMVrhd check this link expires in an hour
[14:34] <asuio> dont have pastebin
[14:34] <k1l> !paste | asuio
[14:34] <system0x001> asuio: after reboot my alsamixer return to mute how to unmunt by alsamixer and save state of card?
[14:37] <ttog> http://imgur.com/gallery/HxYUO87/new
[14:37] <badbodh> asuio, sudo apt-get install pastebinit, alternatively just copy/paste text in a pastebin website like dpaste, fpaste, hastebin etc
[14:37] <nitish> what exactly is lightdm and pastebin?
[14:38] <k1l> nitish: lightdm is the displaymanager that starts the xserver and make a login screen.
[14:38] <freakyy> hi k1l :) stell dir vor meine graka geht. aber die linien gehn nur weg, wenn ich nen andern bildschirm anschliesse - das resettet irgendwas und dann sind die linien auf beiden bildschirmen nicht da.
[14:39] <freakyy> k1l: das prob jetzt nur is ich hab ned überall nen bildschirm dabei jezt muss ich guggn wie ich das gefixed kriege ohne nen 2ten bildschirm anzuschliessen
[14:39] <cfhowlett> !de | freakyy,
[14:39] <asuio> Model: TDKMedia Trans-It Drive (scsi) Disk /dev/sdd: 8009MB this should be /cdrom but it isnt!
[14:39] <freakyy> oh sorry
[14:39] <nitish> k1l: oh thats why my screen goes blank when I killed lightdm. :)
[14:39] <freakyy> yea sorry
[14:39] <badbodh> http://slexy.org/view/s206VmUR0f
[14:39] <badbodh> nitish
[14:40] <nitish> badbodh: which link is this?
[14:40] <badbodh> a pastebin, i wrote some text here
[14:40] <padan> does anyone know of a way to get either nfs or cifs mounts in an lxc container? (using lxd in ubuntu 15.10)
[14:40] <padan> I can't seem to get apparmor to not block it
[14:40] <badbodh> ubuntu has 'pastebinit' package, will automate this thing. very handy for sharing terminal output with others
[14:41] <cfhowlett> or at the end of your command | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:42] <herbet6> bonjour
[14:42] <asuio> user: ttog why dont u have a /cdrom mounpoint?
[14:42] <cfhowlett> !fr | herbet6
[14:42] <herbet6> hello
[14:44] <asuio> please find out what is creating the /cdrom mount point in the first place, then i need the command to point it to the right /dev/xxx place!
[14:45] <badbodh> asuio, yeah. share on pastebin stuff i've told you, we'll find out
[14:46] <asuio> dont have pastebin, ill perm disable dvdrom from bios
[14:46] <asuio> and reboot, but ill ask u guys later how to change to correct /cdrom device
[14:47] <asuio> maybe its the grub-common service i dont know
[14:47] <asuio> find it out please
[14:47] <badbodh> will you please bloody google what a pastebin is? or just run the command "ap-get install pastebinit"
[14:47] <heavyshark> which channel to visit
[14:47] <badbodh> *apt
[14:48] <qzio_> Hi, I've installed docker from their repo, and would like to extend the /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/docker.service according to documentation for systemd, this should be done by adding a docker.service.d/ directory in /etc/systemd/system/, and a docker.service file in that directory. However, this doesn't work for me.
[14:51] <heavyshark> pastebin wont install
[14:51] <badbodh> *pastebinit
[14:52] <heavyshark> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[14:52] <badbodh> aye
[14:52] <heavyshark> is this it
[14:53] <cjeon> a
[14:53] <heavyshark> any recommendations for newbies
[14:53] <heavyshark> on what to install or what to learn
[14:53] <cfhowlett> !manual } heavyshark,
[14:53] <somsip> !manual | heavyshark
[14:54] <badbodh> ! cookies | cfhowlett somsip
[14:54] <cfhowlett> heavyshark, www.fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads. start at #0. read. repeat >> #102
[14:54] * cfhowlett noms noms on delicious cookies!
[14:54] <heavyshark> thanks cfhowlett
[14:55] <badbodh> cfhowlett, it's "om nom nom" , not "nom nom"
[14:56] <badbodh> you have to put it in your mouth first. "om"
[14:56] <cfhowlett> badbodh, sorry, can't talk with. cookies in mouth, crumbs on fingers ...
[14:56] <badbodh> :3
[14:59] <TheHawk__> ls
[14:59] <puffi> Is there any reason ubuntu 12.04.5 wouldn't search a repo that shows up in apt-cache policy that it should search?
[15:00] <badbodh> maybe the repo is down, change mirror
[15:01] <puffi> badbodh: repo is ok
[15:02] <badbodh> official repo or third party ?
[15:02] <puffi> badbodh: just a local one i have setup
[15:02] <puffi> badbodh: it shows in policy and update fine
[15:02] <puffi> just doesn't find any software from it
[15:03] <badbodh> lemme guess ubuntu-server ?
[15:04] <puffi> badbodh: server yes
[15:04] <badbodh> #ubuntu-server guys should know better.
[15:04] <badbodh> my best guess, something to do with your gpg keys
[15:06] <internetman> has anyone else installed Wickr on ubuntu 15.10/15.04 ? Im having lots of dependency problems. www.wickr.com
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> internetman: added ppa's?
[15:09] <internetman> lotuspsychje: i cant find any information about which ppa's it should be. and when i search for the packages (libavutil52, libicu52, libx264) it looks like they are not in the repo's of ubuntu wily
[15:10] <internetman> lotuspsychje: it works if i manually dl the missing deps and manually install though
[15:11] <internetman> lotuspsychje: but it would be nice to have it update from repos
[15:11] <meisth0th> hello
[15:11] <mauritslamers> Hey all, I have a peculiar problem which I hope I might solve with some help: I am running Ubuntu 15.10 on an 2007 iMac in a dual monitor setup. My problem is that after install 15.10 my main screen (the screen of the iMac) seems to be turned off during startup (during displaying the splash image). Everything indicates that it should be working (xrandr, arandr, all system settings apps), but the screen is black. After restarting using the
[15:11] <mauritslamers> advanced mode with the upstart it does work
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> internetman: not sure where to ask for package request
[15:11] <mauritslamers> anyone a clue how I could approach this?
[15:13] <meisth0th> i want to make a deb package of my application, which runs as a daemon. i've been reading for 2 days yet couldn't figure out what should i be writing, an init.d or upstart script, or a aystemd unit. please help me. i want my package to be compatible with all init systems.
[15:13] <mauritslamers> I have been trying to see whether there is anything in the logs, but I cannot find anything
[15:14] <asio> damn its loading the /casper from my local NTFS disk
[15:15] <asio> i do have a copy of /casper on it, maybe thats why its not using correct /cdrom device_
[15:15] <asio> iwe also disabled the dvdrom from bios
[15:16] <TransmissionIssu> Hello everybody, I cannot seed torrents using Transmission. I have forwarded the port that Transmission uses and the firewall is disabled. Am I forgetting some configuration? (Btw I have Lubuntu 15.10)
[15:16] <asio> k1l: do u know?
[15:17] <joe9__> just installed gnome desktop on my ubuntu 15 and the internal system error shows up very frequently . Please the any solution this??
[15:18] <asio> badbodh: its loading the hole /casper folder from my NTFS disk when it should be using /cdeom
[15:18] <asio> maybe its because i have a /casper folder there too?
[15:19] <badbodh> i don't know
[15:19] <asio> ok ill delete the folder then
[15:19] <asio> maybe it will find the correct device
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> TransmissionIssu: your router letting it through?
[15:20] <asio> also i disabled the dvdrom in bios didnt work >*
[15:20] <asio> also i disabled the dvdrom in bios didnt work :(
[15:21] <k1l_> asio: disabling the dvdrom in bios was just a hint as you didnt explain the whole setup.
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> joe75: what does this error say exactly?
[15:22] <k1l_> remove the caspar folder in that ntfs partition.
[15:23] <drayidwar> i have tried forum solutions and pip and wget on the two packages with size mismatch...any ideas ? https://unsee.cc/zosugame/
[15:29] <valber> oi
[15:29] <valber> sou novato
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> !it | valber
[15:30] <valber> pt-br?
[15:33] <DJones> !br | varikonniemi
[15:47] <Boody> h[15:47] <lotuspsychje> Boody: can we help you?
[15:47] <Boody> how can i hack facebook acc
[15:47] <k1l_> Boody: wrong topic for this channel
[15:47] <jpds> Boody: Yeah, not here
[15:48] <Boody> so what is the context here
[15:48] <k1l_> technical ubuntu support
[15:48] <k1l_> !guidelines | Boody
[15:49] <Boody> if i install backbox on my pc it will remove my windows ?
[15:49] <k1l_> ask the backbox guys for backbox support please.
[15:50] <Boody> where they are ?
[15:50] <k1l_> !backbox
[15:51] <Boody> backbox is supporting by ubunto wtf guys
[15:51] <bazhang> no its not Boody
[15:51] <k1l_> Boody: nope. so please ask them about backbox. thanks
[15:52] <Boody> hahahah hold on angry man
[15:52] <bazhang> take the chit chat elsewhere please
[15:57] <anukul> Hi, Where can I find a list of tasks that need to be completed by the community? (code, bugfixes)
[15:58] <anukul> I can code in C++ and Python.
[15:58] <anukul> I would like to contribute.
[15:58] <k1l_> !contribute | anukul
[15:58] <k1l_> anukul: see for the teams that suit your skills and interest.
[16:00] <anukul> Thanks.
[16:02] <neocast> hi
[16:04] <emilia> avengers
[16:11] <coyote> Hello, I'm trying to reformat an external hardrive for backups. I need to get permission to coy to the harddisk. i formatted it to ext4. I tried chmod and chown but it didn't work.
[16:13] <akik> coyote: use sudo if you need root permissions to change permissions
[16:20] <sruli> I have a multiboot system, 2 of the partitions are LUKS, how can i update grub for all? when i mount 1 luks update-grub does not see the other luks, when both are mounted grub works fine for the one i was chroot'd in while updating grub but gives error when trying to boot other one, ideally i would like to update the grub while booted into luks 1 and mount luks 2, how would i do that?
[16:20] <zykotick9> coyote: mount the partition, then chmod/chown the mount point
[16:20] <free29> hello t here
[16:31] <serfio> hello
[16:31] <mothership_> serfio, hello how are you?
[16:32] <serfio> bene !! Sorry i don't speack english
[16:32] <k1l_> !it | serfio
[16:36] <balazs> Can anyone tell me how to re-read the list of connections that are set up in Networkmanager in 15.10 ? Looks like it's not enough to create a file in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections, then restart nm
[16:42] <coyote> I just get this error chmod: changing permissions of ‘/dev/sdc1’: Operation not permitted
[16:42] <coyote> can you be more precise with the needed command?
[16:43] <k1l_> coyote: you cant chmod a device
[16:43] <akik> coyote: mount /dev/sdc1 somewhere, then change the permissions on the mount
[16:44] <akik> k1l_: you can chmod a device
[16:45] <teward> akik: no, you can't.
[16:46] <k1l_> ok let me rephrase: it makes more sense to chmod the files/folders inside the filesystem and not the bare device.
[16:46] <teward> ^ that
[16:46] <akik> teward: you can't, i can
[16:46] <k1l_> like chmod the mountpoint of that device.
[16:48] <murosai> im reading wiki and it says ubuntu releases are based on debian unstable, so does this mean that every 6 months a snapshot of packages in unstable is included in the release or something? what about further updates, do they come from debian unstable also?
[16:48] <dikiaap> Hello ...
[16:49] <k1l_> murosai: that is the basework, yes. but there are now a lot more packages that are added to that base. and that packages get tested and are freezed for one version at the freeze date in the beta state of that ubuntu release.
[16:50] <zykotick9> murosai: most packages don't get version updates after a release (some do now), but i'd suspect security updates do probably come from debian unstable (or security?)
[16:50] <k1l_> murosai: heavy bugs and security issues get fixed with backport patches, but there are no updates of the versions to get a stable base for the release. (some excepts are browsers)
[16:51] <excelsiora> is there a good option for streaming tv on ubuntu?
[16:52] <murosai> but i get updates all the time, maybe because im using LTS?
[16:53] <k1l_> murosai: security updates and heavy bugfixes.
[16:53] <econdudeawesome> Howdy! I'm a total newb when it comes to symbolic links, and I'm finding Google answer hard to parse. How do I like a compiled program, such that if the program is located in /path/, and the program is foo, and I want to link it to name bar... how do i do it?
[16:53] <econdudeawesome> link* not like
[16:53] <k1l_> murosai: but they are not updating libreoffice4 to libreffice5 on LTS.
[16:54] <murosai> hm ok
[16:55] <akik> econdudeawesome: ln -s /path/foo /path/bar
[16:55] <excelsiora> or tuners that are good for ubuntu?
[16:55] <econdudeawesome> akik: does that allow me to run the program from the CLI instead of ./foo, just type "bar"?
[16:56] <akik> econdudeawesome: yes, if the path is in your $PATH
[16:56] <excelsiora> Anyone use a streamer?
[16:57] <econdudeawesome> akik: can I do that with export PATH=$PATH ?
[16:58] <akik> econdudeawesome: maybe it would be better to use "export PATH=${PATH}:new_path_here"
[16:58] <zykotick9> econdudeawesome: note, "export ..." will only be temporary
[16:58] <econdudeawesome> zykotick9: do I then just hardcode it into bashrc?
[16:59] <econdudeawesome> e.g. throwing this into my bashrc should be fine? >> export PATH="/home/dwindi/ILP/anaconda/bin:$PATH"
[16:59] <zykotick9> econdudeawesome: probably ~/.profile would be more proper...
[17:00] <zykotick9> econdudeawesome: fyi, in .profile it's PATH=... no need for export
[17:00] <econdudeawesome> zykotick9: that would run at login, instead of when bash is launched?
[17:00] <excelsiora> anyone use ubuntu for TV?
[17:01] <zykotick9> econdudeawesome: i don't remember the specifics, but recall being told .bashrc isn't _really_ the place ;)
[17:01] <econdudeawesome> zykotick9: fair enough!
[17:02] <nitish> how can I install kde?
[17:03] <k1l_> nitish: install the kde metapackage. or kubuntu-desktop if you want the whole kubuntu stack
[17:03] <excelsiora> http://superuser.com/questions/183870/difference-between-bashrc-and-bash-profile
[17:03] <daman> is it possible to setup a cron job to delete folders/files in a specific directory after 10 minutes?
[17:03] <nitish> kil_, I just need its ui.
[17:03] <k1l_> nitish: can you explain more? to find out how much kde you need
[17:04] <nitish> k1l_, I am boared from unity. also not like some features of gnome. so I need third one.
[17:05] <k1l_> which ubuntu version?
[17:05] <nitish> 14.04 lts.
[17:05] <daman> anyone?
[17:06] <k1l_> nitish: best install "kubuntu-desktop"
[17:06] <akik> daman: yes, you can do it with the find command, switches -mtime, -atime
[17:07] <mcphail> daman: 10 minutes after they are created?
[17:07] <nitish> k1l_, need to 336 MB to install kubuntu-desktop. Is there any other lighter one?
[17:07] <k1l_> nitish: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . kubuntu-desktop is supported by the kubuntu team to make working. the "kde-" packages are just synced from debian
[17:07] <kostas_> is anyone using a thin clients server? how is performance on the thin clients? I have an I3 with 4GB and want to serve 4 thin clients at home... DE will be xfce and they should run libreoffice, web brosers and videoplayback in 720p... no games, justo old school retro consoles (snes, megadrive, mame) no resource hungy applications like video/photo editing... has anyone experience?
[17:07] <k1l_> nitish: well, kde is a heavy desktop which needs a lot of stuff only needed by kde so it needs to install those now
[17:07] <nitish> k1l_, is there any other ui than unity, gnome and kde?
[17:08] <k1l_> nitish: lxde, xfce, mate
[17:08] <pinkes> hi
[17:08] <nitish> k1l_ how to install them?
[17:08] <k1l_> nitish: and a bunch of very small desktops or windowsmanagers like tiling desktops. awesome or i3 or such.
[17:09] <k1l_> nitish: search the package system for them
[17:10] <Patero-ng> hello does anyone here speaks arab? I want to know where this coin is from http://174.23.203.235/fotos/scan1.jpg please pm me the answer
[17:10] <k1l_> nitish: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65083/what-kinds-of-desktop-environments-and-shells-are-available
[17:10] <nitish> k1l_ sudo apt-get install xfce is giving this: E: Unable to locate package xfce
[17:11] <k1l_> Patero-ng: obviously offtopic: #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:11] <BluesKaj> xfce-desktop??
[17:11] <k1l_> nitish: see my link
[17:11] <kostas_> nitish: use tasksel instead
[17:12] <kostas_> nitish: sudo tasksel
[17:16] <nitish> wtf is this tasksel.. unable to open it. only its giving a ugly screen.
[17:17] <kostas_> it's a cli tool! you can install the xubuntu-desktop with it, which is based on xfce
[17:20] <nitish> how to change windows manager from terminal?
[17:21] <lucido> Hi, how do I stop ubuntu from autodetecting the connected displays. whn my kvm switches one of my displays away all my windows are transferred to the remainnig display
[17:23] <TJ-> lucido: you'd need to configure a manual xorg.conf
[17:26] <excelsiora> Is there a better channel for AV/TV questions?
[17:26] <excelsiora> !OT
[17:30] <matej_> helo
[17:30] <excelsiora> helo
[17:30] <matej_> nice... i try now my RSP 2
[17:31] <matej_> and work really fine
[17:31] <matej_> how are you
[17:32] <jiggerypokery> Hello, I got a disk error (I think) that causes ubuntu to start in emergency mode every time and fail to shutdown correctly
[17:33] <jiggerypokery> looks like /dev/sdb2 (my boot partition, ext2 on an ssd) fails to unmount
[17:33] <jiggerypokery> Anyone know what to do?
[17:34] <jiggerypokery> Ubuntu runs just fine, it just doesn't shut down
[17:34] <jiggerypokery> http://askubuntu.com/questions/631362/error-getting-authority-error-initializing-authority-could-not-connect-no-suc
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> jiggerypokery: try pressing F1 at shutdown to see text errors
[17:35] <jiggerypokery> The error here is exactly what I get on shutdown
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> ah ok
[17:35] <amicrawler> can any body help me config a wifi card
[17:35] <jiggerypokery> IDK if my fstab is wrong tbh
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> !details | amicrawler
[17:36] <jiggerypokery> I wouldn't know what it would look like if it was correct
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> jiggerypokery: did you mess with it?
[17:36] <amicrawler> rtl8192cu
[17:36] <jiggerypokery> not touched it
[17:36] <amicrawler> is the card
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> !realtek | amicrawler
[17:38] <amicrawler> it is in a lenova it is a ac wifi card
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> jiggerypokery: try a sudo halt -p maybe, see if that makes any change?
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> jiggerypokery: wich ubuntu version is this?
[17:38] <jiggerypokery> 15.04
[17:39] <amicrawler> ubuntu 15
[17:40] <jiggerypokery> isn't halt just an alias of shutdown now?
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> jiggerypokery: yeah, try anyway
[17:41] <jiggerypokery> ok see you in a mo! :D
[17:42] <jack> does anyone know another cool ubuntu-derivative besides mint and trisquel?
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | jack
[17:43] <jack> mmh, thx
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> jack: you can make official ubuntu look just the way you want
[17:43] <jack> :)
[17:44] <jack> i love MATE
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | jack
[17:44] <jack> ....k
[17:51] <matej_> hello all
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> matej_: welcome, what can we do for you>?
[17:51] <matej_> no i just try... my system
[17:52] <akik> don't try... do
[17:55] <jiggerypokery> halt was no use, fsck found errors in one file though
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> jiggerypokery: wich file
[17:55] <jiggerypokery> trying to work it out
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> jiggerypokery: ok
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> jiggerypokery: could be just a 15.04 issue also
[17:57] <jiggerypokery> sudo tail /var/log/fsck/checkfs produces... (Nothing has been logged yet.)
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> jiggerypokery: maybe also check your dmesg and syslog for anything relevant
[18:01] <sruli> I have a multiboot system, 2 of the partitions are LUKS, how can i update grub for all? when i mount 1 luks update-grub does not see the other luks, when both are mounted grub works fine for the one i was chroot'd in while updating grub but gives error when trying to boot other one, ideally i would like to update the grub while booted into luks 1 and mount luks 2, how would i do that?
[18:02] <jiggerypokery> kernel: [ 3.170279] EXT4-fs (dm-0): warning: mounting fs with errors, running e2fsck is recommended
[18:02] <jiggerypokery> looks suspect, no?
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> jiggerypokery: yeah
[18:03] <jiggerypokery> dmesg is empty, however
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> jiggerypokery: you can also try a realtime tail -f /var/log/whateverlog
[18:04] <voiter> when i start istanbul i get the message: shmget failed: error 28 (No space left on device)
[18:05] <voiter> i researched but didn't find a solution for this.
[18:05] <jiggerypokery> problem is startup/shutdown so I don't think that will help
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> voiter: clean up space on hd?
[18:05] <voiter> for instance: i don't know which device has no space left...
[18:05] <voiter> lotuspsychje, 4.1 GiB available
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> voiter: try more clean with bleachbit
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> jiggerypokery: tested this on other ubuntu versions?
[18:06] <voiter> lotuspsychje, i don't think more free space is the solution.
[18:07] <ubuntu-studio> Hi. If I install ubuntu wihout grub (ubiquity --no-bootloader) what command do I have to type in my other distro to be able to boot the newly installed ubuntu? thx
[18:07] <subliminal> hello to all!!!
[18:07] <EriC^^> ubuntu-studio: sudo update-grub
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> voiter: im note sure neither, but as it asks, cant hazrm to try?
[18:07] <subliminal> can anyone help me with qt on ubuntu?
[18:07] <EriC^^> ubuntu-studio: or sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg depending on your distro
[18:07] <ubuntu-studio> EriC^^, cool, thankx
[18:07] <EriC^^> ubuntu-studio: np
[18:07] <SchrodingersScat> subliminal: ask your real question and if anyone can help they will
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> sublimate: best to ask your question to the channel, so others can read
[18:08] <subliminal> i need to install qt toolchain on ubuntu
[18:08] <subliminal> toolchain for cross compiler for arm
[18:08] * sublimate assumes he was mis highlighted
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> sublimate: oops, my bad
[18:09] <sruli> EriC^^: would u know how to update-grub for 2 luks partitons (each one different distro)? i manage to get grub working for one but not both
[18:09] <EriC^^> sruli: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:10] <subliminal> but the qt library must be download source and than compile or can download direct binary?
[18:11] <sruli> EriC^^: have not got the pc with me, partions are sda2=efi sda3=winRecovery sda4=Win8 sda5=boot sda6=ubuntuSeverLUKS sda7=ubuntu14.04GUI
[18:12] <EriC^^> sruli: is boot shared between the 2 os's ?
[18:13] <sruli> EriC^^: thats what i am doing, is this wrong? do i need seperate boot for each ubuntu os?
[18:13] <EriC^^> sruli: are the os's both 14.04?
[18:13] <sruli> yes
[18:13] <EriC^^> sruli: i guess it's ok, but grub isn't going to know to add an entry for the other os
[18:14] <EriC^^> it'll find the kernels and relate them to whatever os is booted
[18:14] <sruli> EriC^^: say i make another boot part for luks2, how would i then update-grub? just mount luks2 while booted in luks 1?
[18:14] <EriC^^> sruli: you could add a menu entry in /etc/grub.d/40_custom and make it a replica of the os one, but use a different uuid for the other root partition
[18:15] <EriC^^> it wouldn't update the kernel in the grub menu though, you'd have to change it if you want to boot newer kernels
[18:15] <sruli> EriC^^: if 2 boot parts is the right way to do it, i dont mind making 2 boot parts, i just want to know the correct way to update grub for this
[18:16] <EriC^^> i guess 2 boots would be nicer
[18:18] <sruli> EriC^^: i will make a quick install now on a SSD to test, how would u advice to update grub?
[18:18] <EriC^^> sruli: i think you can encrypt the disk fully
[18:18] <EriC^^> that is, have no separate /boot partition,
[18:19] <^Phantom^> I have been idle here for years.
[18:19] <^Phantom^> Will part soon. Downsizing irc presence a bit.
[18:19] <EriC^^> sruli: mount sda5 at /mnt then copy the contents to /boot, and remove /boot from /etc/fstab
[18:19] <sruli> EriC^^: i would love to encrypt full disk but i also have windows
[18:20] <EriC^^> sruli: then in /etc/default/grub add GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y
[18:20] <sruli> EriC^^: what would that do?
[18:20] <EriC^^> sruli: that's fine
[18:21] <EriC^^> that would have /boot inside the luks partition
[18:21] <EriC^^> so no separate boot and each install has it's own /boot
[18:22] <makapaka> hi all
[18:23] <sruli> EriC^^: sounds good, will that still allow booting windows and each os seperate luks part?
[18:27] <boxmein> hey
[18:27] <sruli> EriC^^: i will install 2 distros now without creating boot part, however what do i need to do to update-grub while booted in luks1? just mount luks2
[18:27] <boxmein> say I am the inverse of Mr Moneybags
[18:27] <boxmein> how can I install a remote server's known-good SSL certificate to make chrome/hexchat/other apps trust it?
[18:28] <boxmein> known-good because I'm transferring it over SSH
[18:33] <bumblefuzz> so, I really want to make the jump (from OS X) to ubuntu
[18:33] <SchrodingersScat> !mac | bumblefuzz
[18:33] <bumblefuzz> but the only thing holding me back is 1.) using my multitouch hardware to perform gestures in ubuntu
[18:34] <bumblefuzz> and 2.) setting up ubuntu with my VPN so that all traffic is routed through the VPN and nowhere else...
[18:34] <bumblefuzz> I'm not afraid to learn but I haven't been able to find any clear guides on these subjects
[18:34] <bumblefuzz> the multitouch program I use in Mac OS X is BetterTouchTool
[18:35] <bumblefuzz> ...and wow there are a lot of people leaving and entering the channel
[18:35] <k1l_> bumblefuzz: vpns work on ubuntu. that is not an issue
[18:35] <k1l_> !netsplit
[18:35] <bumblefuzz> I'm aware that vpn's work on ubuntu
[18:35] <k1l_> and multitouch depends on the program and hardware. (or what you mean exactly by multitouch)
[18:35] <bumblefuzz> but configuring it to force all connections through the von
[18:36] <bumblefuzz> I don't know how to do that
[18:36] <bumblefuzz> I'm using a macbook pro
[18:36] <sruli> bumblefuzz: iptables rule
[18:36] <bumblefuzz> I have both a multitouch trackpad and the magic mouse
[18:37] <bumblefuzz> because they both recognize 4, 5, even 6 fingers, you can do gestures with them
[18:37] <bumblefuzz> and have complicated system actions distilled in to simple gestural movements
[18:37] <bumblefuzz> lookup BetterTouchTool
[18:37] <k1l_> bumblefuzz: set the vpn in the networkmanager and see the settings for the browsers to use the vpn too
[18:37] <bumblefuzz> is there an equivalent to that on ubuntu?
[18:40] <bumblefuzz> right but I don't want to configure every application
[18:40] <bumblefuzz> I just want ANY request for internet access to be funneled through the VPN
[18:40] <bumblefuzz> ...in addition to gestures
[18:40] <bumblefuzz> if I can' solve those two things, I'm in
[18:41] <Guest59093> hi ubuntu
[18:42] <k1l_> bumblefuzz: i dont know about magic mouse support i dont own that hardware. but vpns work as i said already.
[18:42] <bumblefuzz> I already know that the magic mouse will work with ubuntu
[18:43] <bumblefuzz> what I'm looking for, specifically, is gesture support
[18:43] <sruli> bumblefuzz: for VPN, search the net for VPN iptables kill switch, many different rules available, its easily done, cant help u with gestures..
[18:44] <k1l_> bumblefuzz: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch for a start
[18:45] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/HardwareSupport bumblefuzz
[18:45] <bazhang> heh k1l_ beat me to it
[18:51] <bumblefuzz> also, in OS X, I usually make two accounts, a user account and an admin account
[18:51] <bumblefuzz> should I do the same when installing ubuntu?
[18:52] <bumblefuzz> the user account is my daily driver and I only use the admin account for admin stuff
[18:52] <bazhang> bumblefuzz, no
[18:52] <bumblefuzz> really?
[18:52] <bazhang> use sudo bumblefuzz
[18:52] <bumblefuzz> so, ubuntu is otherwise secure?
[18:52] <bazhang> !manual | bumblefuzz have a read
[18:53] <bazhang> !rute | bumblefuzz and this
[18:53] <bazhang> bumblefuzz, have a read of those
[19:03] <Extreminador> guys i am not being able to write to the files with the vsftpd... i can create the files and directorys but i am not being able to writo the data into the files.. Think the issue is with the port range that the software uses randomly...
[19:04] <Extreminador> I already set the pasv_max_port and pasv_min_port option into the config file but something else about port's is missing that i can´t find
[19:04] <gerep> Hello people, I'm trying to make my upstart script stop the process but it shows stop: unknown instance: here is my script: https://gist.github.com/gerep/9ee1ea34e1f0da39a508
[19:04] <Extreminador> and on the #vsftpd channel no one is replying
[19:04] <gerep> Any ideias of what I'm doing wrong?
[19:30] <bozsikarmand> well, well.. maybe freenode has some issues. :/
[19:31] <Saiyajin06> remembering the old times hahaha
[19:35] <drnapster> i am having an issue with both unity and mate. when i install apps i have to reboot before they will show in any application list anyone have any ideas???
[19:37] <drnapster> when i install apps i have to reboot before they will show in any application list anyone have any ideas???
[19:54] <amz3> héllo, is there a way to read a pdf with a DRM on ubuntu?
[19:56] <aurora_> i have a asus F302L and my touchpad dont work after suspend. Any tips? (think i asked this before but it wasnt salved)
[19:58] <arpad02> hi
[19:59] <arpad02> I need help, thank you! how to change nvidia prime profile from intel to nvidia?
[20:04] <TJ-> arpad02: /usr/bin/prime-select
[20:06] <arpad02> TJ-: hi, ok, I have found the script
[20:10] <arpad02> TJ-: what to do next?
[20:18] <ubuntu98w> hey folks, I'm having trouble with updating, I keep getting told that it failed to download packages. anyone know how to fix this?
[20:20] <Bashing-om> ubuntu98w: pastebin the errors .. ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' . see what we can detrmine .
[20:20] <OerHeks> ubuntu98w, paste the errors on paste.ubuntu.com
[20:21] <ioria> ubuntu98w, and cat /etc/issue
[20:21] <ubuntu98w> Bashing-om, OerHeks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13518668/
[20:21] <Bashing-om> ubuntu98w: look'n .
[20:23] <ubuntu98w> ioria: Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS \n \l
[20:23] <ioria> ubuntu98w, maybe you need an upgrade and dist-upgrade
[20:24] <ubuntu98w> ioria: I gave OerHeks and Bashing-om the paste from upgrade
[20:24] <Bashing-om> ubuntu98w: " 20140922-0ubuntu1.1_i386.deb " this a 32 bit install ?
[20:24] <ubuntu98w> Bashing-om: yes
[20:24] <ioria> ubuntu98w, we are at 14.0.3 LTS
[20:24] <ioria> ubuntu98w, we are at 14.04.3 LTS
[20:25] <Bashing-om> ubuntu98w: K; Do you get a positive response ' apt-cache show unity-control-center ' ??
[20:26] <h4k1m> hello there
[20:26] <h4k1m> how can I install vpn (juniper network connect) on ubuntu 14?
[20:26] <h4k1m> the issue seems to be related to a library that's made for 32bits OSs but mine is 64bits
[20:27] <ubuntu98w> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13518729/
[20:28] <OerHeks> h4k1m, i do not use juniper myself, but this page may be a help > http://www.lyricalsoftware.com/blog/juniper-vpn-working-in-ubuntu-14-04-trusty/
[20:29] <h4k1m> thanks OerHeks ^^
[20:29] <redkriegtober> MonkeyDust: several days ago I asked you about removing a hardware block on my wifi when using a live usb. do you recall?
[20:30] <Bashing-om> ubuntu98w: Stranfe, as you can see the file is there for your system to obtain . update and package upgrade, clean up and try again . ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' . See how that goes before we proceed .
[20:31] <ubuntu98w> Bashing-om: you want me to run those last two commands?
[20:32] <Bashing-om> ubuntu98w: Yeah .. Is what I would do .
[20:33] <OerHeks> Bashing-om +1
[20:36] <ubuntu98w> Bashing-om: it's running
[20:49] <Extreminador> guys i am not being able to write to the files with the vsftpd... i can create the files and directorys but i am not being able to writo the data into the files.. Think the issue is with the port range that the software uses randomly...
[20:50] <Extreminador> I already set the pasv_max_port and pasv_min_port option into the config file but something else about port's config is missing that i can´t find
[20:51] <Extreminador> no one on the #vsftpd is replying...
[20:52] <akik> Extreminador: did you change the ftp client to pasv mode?
[20:52] <Extreminador> yup akik i did
[20:52] <Extreminador> but will recheck
[20:52] <OerHeks> Extreminador, "not being able to writo the data into the files" ? i thought you can only write whole files ..
[20:52] <akik> Extreminador: can you paste the error you get to pastebin.com ?
[20:52] <orangelt> Hello there, on my Ubuntu 14.04 laptop I've installed DraftSight for .dwg editing but the mouse pointer is very laggy and jerky inside the workspace. I have an i3 cpu and 4gb ram memory. Can anyone help me please?
[20:52] <Extreminador> OerHeks the filename is created but when i open it's emepty
[20:53] <Extreminador> i can assume only that the port used for that is diferent
[20:53] <Extreminador> cause if i try localy in the linux it will work (havent ye try that )
[20:53] <Extreminador> but almost sure it will work
[20:53] <akik> Extreminador: did you open the needed ports in iptables?
[20:53] <Extreminador> can try it in a few sec's
[20:54] <Extreminador> akik nop...
[20:54] <Extreminador> good qustion indeed... when i do netstat it says listning
[20:54] <akik> Extreminador: maybe disable iptables for a while and see if it works?
[20:54] <Extreminador> yehh will do
[20:54] <Extreminador> turning on linux
[20:55] <Extreminador> i assume that localy iptble will not block right ?
[20:56] <Extreminador> i mean if i try localy placing a file it should work right
[20:57] <akik> if you disable iptables and vsftpd works, you can investigate further
[20:58] <akik> you can set iptables to log packets
[20:59] <h4k1m> can I install java 32 bits on Ubuntu 14 (64bits)?
[20:59] <h4k1m> I cannot manage to install it (I have a broken dependency)
[21:00] <OerHeks> h4k1m, sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre openjdk-7-jre:i386
[21:00] <OerHeks> broken dependencies...the error gives a clue what you can do tocorrect this
[21:01] <akik> Extreminador: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Logging
[21:01] <k1l_> h4k1m: put all output into a pastebin and show it here
[21:02] <h4k1m> k1l_: I have an unmet dependency it seems when I tried to install openjdk-7-jre:i386 ... what should I pastebin exactely?
[21:02] <k1l_> h4k1m: everything
[21:03] <obstino> Bonsoir
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> h4k1m use sudo apt install openjdk-7-jre:i386 2>errorlog ... then use pastebin to show us the errorlog
[21:03] <h4k1m> k1l_: for the time being, I have a red sign on my top bar and the packager seem to be locked
[21:03] <h4k1m> MonkeyDust: ok
[21:03] <k1l_> h4k1m: yes
[21:03] <k1l_> h4k1m: put the output in the terminal you see into a pastebin so we dont need to guess.
[21:04] <h4k1m> k1l_: MonkeyDust OerHeks http://paste.ubuntu.com/13519107/
[21:04] <k1l_> h4k1m: do you have softwware center or other terminal open that still uses package system?
[21:05] <OerHeks> terminal + softwarecenter open, one instance only to the packages
[21:05] <h4k1m> k1l_: no restarted earlier but this error seems to persist
[21:05] <Extreminador> hum akik ty will read that
[21:05] <MonkeyDust> h4k1m sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[21:06] <h4k1m> MonkeyDust: empty output
[21:06] <MonkeyDust> h4k1m ok, now try again
[21:06] <h4k1m> MonkeyDust: same thing
[21:06] <k1l_> h4k1m: you use sudo?
[21:07] <h4k1m> k1l_: yes
[21:07] <k1l_> "sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[21:07] <orangelt> Hello there, on my Ubuntu 14.04 laptop I've installed DraftSight for .dwg editing but the mouse pointer is very laggy and jerky inside the workspace. I have an i3 cpu and 4gb ram memory. Can anyone help me please?
[21:08] <h4k1m> k1l_: lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system /run/user/1000/gvfs Output information may be incomplete.
[21:09] <k1l_> h4k1m: yeah doesnt seem to work.
[21:09] <ignat> Hi Drone!
[21:10] <OerHeks> orangelt, tons of same issues, solution seems to be the vblank setting > http://askubuntu.com/questions/616709/mouse-is-too-slow-in-draftsight
[21:10] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/625433/mouse-lags-in-draftsight-for-ubuntu-64-bit-14-04
[21:10] <orangelt> OerHeks, I don't have an Nvidia GPU
[21:11] <orangelt> OerHeks, anyway I did it using compiz editor but it still works really bad
[21:13] <OerHeks> orangelt, some downgrade that beta version http://askubuntu.com/a/628904
[21:14] <orangelt> OerHeks, it says File not found."
[21:15] <aurora_> to get my touchpad i tried this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2182922&page=2 dident help. i made that file and did the sudo chmod +x /etc/pm/sleep.d/0000trackpad in terminal
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> h4k1m /run/user/1000/gvfs is where my NAS mounts ... are you using a NAS?
[21:15] <h4k1m> MonkeyDust: no it's just my pesonal laptop
[21:16] <h4k1m> I was struggling to install java 32 bits in order to have a vpn tunnel through juniper
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> ah, a vpn
[21:18] <akik> do you still need to run "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386" to have 32-bit runtime?
[21:19] <h4k1m> MonkeyDust: it seems to be a known issue: https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=trying+to+overwrite+shared+%27%2Fetc%2Fjava-7-openjdk%2Fcontent-types.properties&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gfe_rd=cr&ei=BXdXVpr0NsHH8gfs75z4CQ
[21:19] <h4k1m> akik: apparentely yes
[21:19] <ZOHAR> hola
[21:20] <ubuntu98w> Bashing-om: that tcommand seems to have worked without error
[21:20] <ubuntu98w> Thanks
[21:20] <akik> h4k1m: oh so you managed to install the package you needed?
[21:20] <Bashing-om> ubuntu98w: All good now ?
[21:22] <h4k1m> akik: I think it was fixed with this: http://askubuntu.com/a/410643/146620
[21:22] <h4k1m> I will try juniper network now
[21:23] <akik> heh i install that draftsight program and the mouse is really slow
[21:25] <akik> thankfully librecad if you need oss program
[21:30] <MannyLNJ> Happy thanksgiving. Anyone able to help me with setting up openvpn? I am havhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/OpenVPN_servering issues with the guide at
[21:38] <mentoc> happy thanksgiving, pilgrims.
[21:39] <SchrodingersScat> MannyLNJ: I've used this script before, up to you if you want to try it, https://github.com/Nyr/openvpn-install
[21:40] <MannyLNJ> SchrodingersScat, I will try it.
[21:42] <freakyy> hi all. how can i get the latest version of gnome terminal into ubuntu 14.04? the 15.10 does support tabs without the border and stuff
[21:42] <freakyy> and i want that ;D
[21:42] <fes> hi guys. is there a ppa for wily and xorg 1.18?
[21:42] <fes> xorg-edgers seem to be 1.17
[21:43] <MonkeyDust> fes start searching here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[21:43] <k1l_> fes: its even 1.17 in 16.04 alpha
[21:44] <k1l_> and 1.18 was just released some week ago
[21:44] <fes> thanks guys. i guess i will need to wait.
[21:45] <MannyLNJ> SchrodingersScat, where do I put the .ovpn file that the script made?
[21:45] <k1l_> go through that list and see if someone already did pack 1.18 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=xorg-server
[21:47] <NONO> does the audio quality of 3gpp less than MP4 ??
[21:50] <fes> k1l_, thank you!
[21:50] <NONO> I wan t to download a video from youtube using youtube dl as 3gpp because am only interested in the audio , so sould i download it as 3gpp or mp4 and then convert it to mp3 ??
[21:50] <NONO> so my qs is does the audio quality of 3gpp less than MP4 ??
[21:51] <OerHeks> NONO it can be the same quality, 3gpp is designed for phones
[21:52] <NONO> OerHeks ; so the audio quality betwenn mp4 and 3gpp is exactly the same ?
[21:54] <OerHeks> NONO, both are containers, so it can be the same. " youtube-dl -F <url> " gives all format options
[21:55] <NONO> OerHeks ; so a 3gpp converted to mp3 is the same as mp4 conversted to mp3 in terms of quality ??
[21:57] <OerHeks> NONO, you tell us, we don't know what is inside those containers, use mediainfo or simular to see what audioquality is in there.
[21:58] <OerHeks> if they are equal, then yes
[21:59] <NONO> OerHeks ; does the audioquality has unit or something ?
[21:59] <mentoc> happy thanksgiving pilgrims
[22:00] <OerHeks> bitrate?
[22:02] <NONO> OerHeks : i dont understand
[22:02] <MannyLNJ> mentoc, happy thanksgiving to you
[22:02] <mentoc> MannyLNJ: :)
[22:03] <MannyLNJ> SchrodingersScat, or anyone I don't knopw what to do with the config file for openvpn that was created
[22:03] <akik> NONO: avprobe can tell you the audio details of your file, i wouldn't choose 3gpp if i have a choice
[22:04] <OerHeks> they are both mpeg4, it all depends on the bitrate, i guess
[22:05] <erpit77> sup guy's anyway body here had virtualbox break after last updates?
[22:05] <h4k1m> can anybody tell me how I can use `tun0` instead of `wlan0` to connect?
[22:06] <erpit77> is in the vm aborts as soon as i launch it
[22:06] <k1l_> erpit77: what error?
[22:06] <k1l_> erpit77: what says "uname -a"?
[22:07] <erpit77> its not giving me an error
[22:07] <erpit77> 3.13.0-68-generic #111-Ubuntu SMP Fri Nov 6 18:17:06 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:09] <k1l_> erpit77: start virtualbox in a terminal and see if it gives an error there
[22:09] <erpit77> ok
[22:10] <erpit77> k1l_: it does not give anything
[22:11] <k1l_> then its hard to tell. check the vbox settings
[22:14] <bitfuzzy> anyone have any experience getting Unity working again after downgrading the ubuntu box from v12 to v11?
[22:14] <k1l_> bitfuzzy: downgrade what exactly?
[22:15] <bitfuzzy> I upgraded my virual ubuntu maschine to v12 vmware, then saw that vmware cut unity as of v12, downgraded to v11 hoping it would work, and it only works in software rendering mode now
[22:16] <NONO> here is mediainfo output how do i read it ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/13519745/
[22:16] <h4k1m> I have a tunnel on tun0 but I dont know how to redirect traffic to that address?
[22:16] <h4k1m> I'm still using wlan0 instead
[22:22] <OerHeks> nono, line 168-173, vbr variable bit rate, normal is 192 and the max is in line 173
[22:22] <OerHeks> pretty standard
[22:24] <marco__> hi, how do i know if a patch is available in wily-updates?
[22:24] <k1l_> marco__: see the changelogs
[22:25] <freakyy> where can i get a really recent version of kazam?
[22:25] <freakyy> the screen recording tool?
[22:25] <marco__> the bug is this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1493888
[22:27] <erpit77> hmm so i was using virtualbox from the ubuntu repo's i uninstalled it and installed virtualbox 5.0.10 from virtualbox.org and now its all working again
[22:28] <k1l_> marco__: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/restricted/f/fglrx-installer/fglrx-installer_15.201-0ubuntu2~15.10.2/changelog
[22:31] <OerHeks> freakyy, kazam 1.45 is the latest stable. nearly a dead project, the homepage is for rent now https://launchpad.net/kazam
[22:34] <MannyLNJ> still stiuck with openvpn. I have an .ovpn file now but don't know wht to do next
[22:37] <marco__> ty k1l_
[22:38] <freakyy> OerHeks: well it's the best program i could find.
[22:38] <anonimous> hola
[22:38] <freakyy> a pitty its not developed anymore
[22:38] <freakyy> but im recording with it right now
[22:38] <freakyy> do u know anything as good as kazam?
[22:39] <OerHeks> VLC can do that, with tons of possible codecs
[22:40] <freakyy> ok lemme check that out
[22:41] <Charcoalfire> I purged nvidia-304, stopped lightdm, and installed nouveau drivers on Ubuntu 12.04. Rebooted, restarted lightdm, and it's stuck on starting TiMidity and Alsa. I tried reinstalling nvidia-304, but it said I needed fix-missing, so I tried that and it did a bunch of failed to fetch errors. I have an Intel card, not a nvidia card, and with nvidia-304 I can't run openGL, which is why I purged it. But now I can't use my computer. So, what do I do now?
[22:42] <Charcoalfire> *purged nvidia, not just nvidia-304.
[22:42] <freakyy> OerHeks: how can i record my screen using vlc?
[22:43] <Charcoalfire> I semi-frequently purge and reinstall nvidia-304, so I think I may have removed the PPA in between now and the last time?
[22:44] <OerHeks> just choose as input: desktop > http://www.debugpoint.com/2014/09/record-desktop-screen-capture-using-vlc/
[22:44] <OerHeks> brb
[22:46] <freakyy> OerHeks: ok thanks
[22:47] <anonimous> In Dominican Republic , want to implement a single examination to medical students , which is an injustice for the following reasons . examination policy will be to earn money for roads, poor students can not do anything , also they removed the medical practices in hospitals students , also as codremos be good doctors if we do not practice what we do. and I think that a test does not measure knowledge of a person.
[22:49] <m3n3chm0> Hi
[22:49] <Bashing-om> Charcoalfire: Can you boot to a terminal at this time ?
[22:50] <Charcoalfire> I removed ~/.Xauthority and now lightdm starts. Still no GUI for Unity/Ubuntu.
[22:50] <Charcoalfire> Bashing-om: I can use the tty, yeah.
[22:50] <Charcoalfire> (which is what I'm doing to run irssi)
[22:50] <Guest93683> Hi guys, i have a question. On Windows my overclocked CPU is getting 70-75 celsius in stress, and on ubuntu on this same OC setting lm-sensors is showing about 50-60 celsiuses.. Is this ok? can someone explain it to me?
[22:51] <Bashing-om> Charcoalfire: Show what the hardware is ' lspci -vnn | grep -i VGA ' . See what we can do .
[22:51] <Nick714> Hello. So I have been trying to connect to my internet for awhile now. I've used Ethernet and it has worked but I really would like to join my network so I don't have to plug my laptop into my ethernet cable all the time. Does anyone know how to connect to wifi on ubuntu server?
[22:52] <zerothis1> how can I make a cursor that is always visible on top of anything in X, even when an app has it's own cursor and captures the mouse?
[22:53] <Nick714> I know my internet card works because when I do 'sudo iwlist wlan0 scan' it gets all the networks nearby but I can't connect to them
[22:54] <Charcoalfire> Bashing-om: I can't do a pastebin from here, but it shows VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0102]
[22:56] <MonkeyDust> zerothis1 in dconf-editor, find 'mouse' or 'cursor' (ctrl-f) ... maybe there's a setting to do it (i didnt find one, tho)
[22:57] <Bashing-om> Charcoalfire: That only shows an Intel graphic's driver .. where does Nvidia come into play ? Do we only need to re-install for Intel ??
[22:57] <Charcoalfire> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13520058 Okay, I figured out how to make a pastebin.
[22:59] <Charcoalfire> Bashing-om: I installed nvidia-304 a year ago (I was following some instructions, I don't really remember), and I can't get rid of it. Whenever I try, my GUI won't load. I can't get any other drivers to work, so I just have nvidia-304 even though I can't run openGL with it.
[23:00] <Charcoalfire> Bashing-om: So installing Intel drivers is what I'd like to do if they'll *work*.
[23:00] <Bashing-om> Charcoalfire: pastebin ' lspci ' . look'n to see IF Nvidia is evem a part of this equation .
[23:00] <Bashing-om> even*
[23:01] <Charcoalfire> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13520090
[23:01] <Nick714> Any ideas on how to connect to a internet network using nmcli or iwconfgi?
[23:02] <MonkeyDust> Nick714 you mean wifi?
[23:04] <Nick714> MonkeyDust: Lol yes.
[23:04] <MonkeyDust> !wifi | Nick714 start here
[23:05] <Nick714> MonkeyDust: Thanks I will check it out
[23:05] <daftykins> still that task eh ;)
[23:05] <Bashing-om> Charcoalfire: I still see no Nvidia .. try: 'sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia* ; sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel ' .
[23:06] <Nick714> daftykins: Yeah I tried one day, quit and went to ethernet. But it is so annoying to move around, just convient to have wifi working too
[23:06] <MannyLNJ> still stiuck with openvpn. I have an .ovpn file now but don't know what to do next any assistance is appeciatd
[23:06] <Charcoalfire> Bashing-om: Okay, I'm doing those commands now.
[23:07] <daftykins> Nick714: isn't it a desktop just sat running things...
[23:08] <Nick714> daftykins: laptop now heh. Desktop has too many issues of it's own
[23:09] <daftykins> ah har
[23:10] <zerothis1> MonkeyDust: thanks, but a search of settings reveals only "show-cursor" in "yelp"
[23:13] <Charcoalfire> Bashing-om: "Reinstallation of xserver-xorg-video-intel is not possible, it cannot be downloaded."
[23:14] <AudaxNovus> What is Braille Device Support and why does my machine always hang on it when booting up in recovery mode and such
[23:14] <amz3> héllo, is there a way to read a pdf with a DRM on ubuntu?
[23:14] <AudaxNovus> I first saw it when I installed lubuntu-desktop
[23:14] <Bashing-om> Charcoalfire: K; .. HWE ?? show 'lsb_release -a ; uname -r ' .
[23:15] <cadeskywalker> htop
[23:15] <daftykins> AudaxNovus: support for braille devices of course, you know what braille is? i'm sure you could remove related packages if they're really causing trouble.
[23:16] <Charcoalfire> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13520182 and http://paste.ubuntu.org/12520183
[23:16] <Bashing-om> Charcoalfire: look'n
[23:17] <Charcoalfire> Bashing-om: Sorry, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13520183 for the second one. I have to type these out by hand.
[23:20] <MannyLNJ> still stiuck with openvpn. I have an .ovpn file now but don't know what to do next any assistance is appeciated
[23:20] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: apparently opening up network manager has a way to just open it up directly
[23:21] <Bashing-om> Charcoalfire: Let's work on this .. you have 'raring's ' kerenl .. maybe we should get ya up on trusty's before installing the graphic's driver . What results ' sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ' ?
[23:21] <MannyLNJ> daftykins, yes thats what I thought but netwok mnager on't open it when i chose a saved config
[23:21] <AudaxNovus> Anybody know anything about Braille Device Support?
[23:21] <AudaxNovus> I literally can't do anything right now and it's been hanging on it for hours
[23:22] <AudaxNovus> "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."
[23:22] <AudaxNovus> So I run it
[23:22] <AudaxNovus> Does some stuff
[23:22] <AudaxNovus> Then it does:
[23:22] <tilpner> Hello, I have a problem (duh). My laptop freezes while trying to configure bumblebee. Does this ring any bells?
[23:22] <daftykins> AudaxNovus: so you *are* trying to use it? you didn't reply to my message
[23:22] <AudaxNovus> [ Ok ] Started Braille Device Support
[23:23] <AudaxNovus> Starting Braille Device Support.... *STUCK HERE*
[23:23] <tilpner> When I force a shutdown, the next thing dpkg will do, is ask me to continue the process (dpkg --configure -a), which will of course freeze again.
[23:23] <AudaxNovus> daftykins: No, I'm not
[23:23] <k1l_> tilpner: dont use bumblebee. its deprecated.
[23:23] <daftykins> AudaxNovus: so remove the affected packages
[23:23] <k1l_> tilpner: nvidia-prime now supports hybrid cards officially
[23:23] <AudaxNovus> I'm really not, I just want it to continue so I can use apt because when I run any apt command it gives me that same thing
[23:23] <AudaxNovus> So I can't remove it
[23:23] <AudaxNovus> Affected packages are brltty
[23:23] <AudaxNovus> When I run "sudo apt-get remove brltty"
[23:24] <AudaxNovus> I get this:
[23:24] <tilpner> k1l_ - Oh, interesting. Can nvidia-prime do switching without logging out?
[23:24] <AudaxNovus> "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."
[23:24] <AudaxNovus> And when I run that, it hangs on this same package I
[23:24] <AudaxNovus> I'm trying to remove
[23:24] <AudaxNovus> It's so illogical
[23:24] <k1l_> tilpner: i dont have a nvidia myself, but it should iirc.
[23:24] <MannyLNJ> daftykins, it lets me open the file but not save it to the list of vpns
[23:24] <AudaxNovus> I want it to gtfo my computer is what I want and if apt would work without requiring me to use it
[23:25] <daftykins> AudaxNovus: sudo dpkg -r brltty
[23:25] <daftykins> AudaxNovus: alright, calm down... getting uppity won't help anything
[23:25] <tilpner> k1l_ - I was quite satisfied that Ubuntu supported the Skylake integrated graphics by default, and installing the proprietary NVidia drivers was easy too, but it always required re-logging. I'm going to try nvidia-prime.
[23:25] <AudaxNovus> Sorry fam but this stupid program should've jogged on 3 hours ago yeah
[23:25] <tilpner> (Now I just have to figure how to get to the login screen again)
[23:26] <daftykins> AudaxNovus: cut the stupid street talk online, thanks.
[23:27] <AudaxNovus> daftykins: Excuse you, you're not my employer mate I'll speak as casually as I want without disrespecting you, which I'm not.
[23:27] <daftykins> ok, just pointing out how idiotic you sound using it
[23:27] <AudaxNovus> Thanks for the pointer bahd
[23:27] <AudaxNovus> But
[23:27] <AudaxNovus> No thanks
[23:28] <Adam12356> Hi guys... can anyone assist me? (Hoping this is the right channel) I had to decompress a ".run" file in order to fix a certain bug, but now I have no idea how to turn this folder into an executable
[23:28] <Charcoalfire> Bashing-om: By using the raring kernel and not the trusty kernel, do you mean you think I should upgrade to 14.04? I've asked about that in here before and been told I shouldn't do that.
[23:28] <Adam12356> turn this folder back into* an executable (.run). It's a Displaylink driver if anyone is wondering.
[23:29] <tilpner> Also, what would cause Ubuntu unable to completely shutdown or even reboot? It keeps waiting forever after having turned off everything, except... it doesn't actually shut down the machine.
[23:29] <tilpner> *Ubuntu to be unable
[23:29] <daftykins> Adam12356: i don't think that's an apt way to install anything of that kind on ubuntu
[23:29] <Charcoalfire> Bashing-om: Update - http://paste.ubuntu.com/13520300
[23:30] <Bashing-om> Charcoalfire: I am undecided on the End_Of_Life for 12.04's raring kernel. NO on release upgrade to 14.04 .. YOu have HWE in your install, and I propose to upgrade the HWE to what is current (trusty) .
[23:30] <Charcoalfire> Bashing-om: Ah, thanks for the clarification.
[23:31] <Bashing-om> Charcoalfire: see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack . The update putput looks good . So far so good .
[23:32] <mauricio_> Alguem programa em PHP?
[23:32] <k1l_> !br | mauricio_
[23:33] <Adam12356> daftykins: I don't really know any other way.... I'm using " http://displaylink.org/forum/showthread.php?t=64014 ", but there isn't anything to go on, from there
[23:33] <Charcoalfire> Bashing-om: Thanks for the link. I'm looking at it.
[23:34] <AudaxNovus> My box literally hangs on everything I just want to install lubuntu-desktop so I can use it
[23:34] <AudaxNovus> But it hangs on stuff so I have to shut it down
[23:34] <k1l_> AudaxNovus: errormessages help to find the reaso
[23:34] <k1l_> n
[23:35] <AudaxNovus> An when it starts up the only way for me to do anything is to run another command which runs those things and hangs on stuff again
[23:35] <daftykins> Adam12356: so this is some kind of display connecting over USB or similar? that post refers to elementary, so i hope you're not using that
[23:36] <Adam12356> daftykins: I am using Elementary OS, but it's based on Ubuntu, so I figured I could ask here. It's one of those "Docks" for laptops that you plug into your laptop and it adds a display port for all of your external displays
[23:37] <daftykins> Adam12356: i'm afraid not.
[23:37] <daftykins> !elementary
[23:38] <Adam12356> alrighty, thanks I'll try there!
[23:40] <r_rios> Hello. I just updated to Kubuntu 15.10, but Plasma won't start up. LightDM shows up, but it gets stuck at the splash screen. GNOME runs just fine
[23:41] <k1l_> r_rios: is "kubuntu-desktop" installed?
[23:41] <k1l_> r_rios: kde uses ssdm iirc now
[23:42] <r_rios> Also, my graphics card is a Radeon and I'm using the fglrx driver. I think I had this problem before and it was something related to the graphics driver
[23:42] <r_rios> k1l_: I think it is, let me check
[23:43] <r_rios> Also, I don't think the desktop manager should cause something like this
[23:44] <k1l_> r_rios: well, the dm starts the xserver. and kde5 is very picky on such sings
[23:44] <r_rios> But it worked before the update, what could have changed?
[23:45] <k1l_> update from 15.04 to 15.10?
[23:46] <r_rios> Yeah. I was using Plasma 5.4 and LightDM before the update
[23:46] <r_rios> Btw, kubuntu-desktop is installed
[23:47] <k1l_> well, then see the .xsession-errors
[23:48] <Charcoal1ire> Bashing-om: Should dist-upgrade still be running? I started it around :30. I think it took ten minutes last time. I can't see the percentage on it because I'm piping it through pastebinit.
[23:52] <Bashing-om> Charcoal1ire: Should have already completed .. Do we have a problem ? .. Also yeah .. per the link, the kernel you are presently running is End_of_life and has no support . We do need to get you up on the ' trusty HWE' .
[23:53] <Charcoal1ire> Bashing-om: Should I cancel this dist-upgrade, then, since it hasn't completed? And yeah, upgrading to the trusty HWE makes sense based on the link.
[23:54] <Bashing-om> Charcoal1ire: I do think a cancel is in order .. then what results ' sudo apt-get upgrade ' ?
[23:55] <Charcoal1ire> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13520502
[23:56] <Bashing-om> Charcoal1ire: " and 4 not upgraded. " Let's try again ' sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ' .
[23:57] <Charcoal1ire> Bashing-om: Oh, I just realized what the problem must have been. Since I was piping it through pastebinit, I couldn't answer the [Y/N] thing. I'm trying with "-y" now, so that should work.
[23:58] <newbie|3> What program can, under Ubuntu 15.10, print proper CD labels?
[23:58] <OneM_Industries> How do I force an NTP update?
[23:59] <newbie|3> By the way, I want to just / or primarily, type in the text, no need for graphics
[23:59] <daftykins> newbie|3: are you talking about lightscribe?
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[00:49] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[01:59] <onlylove_> http://www.oschina.net/news/68396/hacker-scripts
[01:59] <ubrl> onlylove_: ⇪ hacker scripts：比 VS Code 还受欢迎的开源项目 - 开源中国社区
[01:59] <onlylove_> 远程煮咖啡的机器……
[02:00] <onlylove_> iMadper: 只要有房住，就比什么都强，神马租和卖，都是浮云
[02:28] <^k^> 新 服务器基础应用 • 【求助】我制作了并安装了 ubuntu15.10 server 版本，如何离线安装图形桌面呢 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474061 我制作了并安装了 ubuntu15.10 server 版本，如何离线安装图形桌面呢。 我把安装光盘作为搜索源之后，用apt-get install xinit 报无法定位软件包 是不
[02:36] <^k^> 新 Shell脚本 • 怎么用命令或编程查看并修改文件的标签信息 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474062 用juk播放歌曲，可以查看其中的艺人、流派、年份等细节信息；用gwenview可以看出图片的Exposure Time、Flash等信息。怎么用命令或编程查看并修改文件的标签信息呢？ zz: iamcook84 —
[02:36] <^k^> ─> 2015-11-26 10:35
[03:19] <cherrot> iMadper, 便携式可刷open-wrt的路由器有了解么
[03:23] <^k^> 新 启动和引导 • rsync命令[03:23] <^k^> ─> 者 /dev/mapper/loop1p3分区， 先把该分区格式化为 ext4 。然后建立临时挂载目录，并且使用rsy …
[03:38] <onlylove__> 果然git对我来说太复杂……
[03:48] <^k^> 新 办公、图像、机械电子设计等 • calligra在ubuntu下怎么设置中文界面 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474063 如题，怎么设置，，，， zz: plasma2006 — 2015-11-26 11:45
[04:05] <^k^> 新 办公、图像、机械电子设计等 • ubuntu15.10 eclipse问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474064 系统：UBUTNU15.10X64 eclipse官网下载安装的最新版本(4.5.1)没法用，运行没问题，就是代码配色根本无效，代码提示也没效（不能自动出现，改成了ctrl+'手动也无效)。 然后安装源里的，居
[04:05] <^k^> ─> 然是3.8版本的，虽然能用，代码能配色。（3.8的界面不太好看） 有同样情况的吗？ zz: dhq …
[04:20] <sennn> 剿匪
[04:25] <sennn> 匪
[04:26] <sennn> 剿匪不力
[05:21] <Niac> php对于我来说太难了
[06:14] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: http://xiaohua.zol.com.cn/detail1/6063.html 包埋葬 : 话说有个蒙古大夫,医死的人无数,有天不知其底细的人家找他去给小婴儿医病,结果,就把人家的孩子给医死啦！！家人哀哭著说:「你看,我家的孩子给你医死啦,你说说看我们该怎么办?」蒙古大夫:「没关系,我还兼任埋葬的工
[06:14] <^k^> ─> 作,那些杂费我算便宜点好了。」
[07:09] <^k^> 新 启动和引导 • 求助 救命呀。。。 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474066 我是在win7的系统上装了ubunut14的虚拟机 一次异常的系统重启后 就无法进入虚拟机的系统了 zz: psv1988 — 2015-11-26 15:08
[07:39] <Kves> 新 启动和引导 • 求助 虚拟机无法启动 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474068 我在win7上装了ubuntu14的虚拟机 一次异常退出导致无法启动虚拟机 里面有重要的代码 如果无法恢复 能拷贝出来也行 zz: psv1988 — 2015-11-26 15:38
[07:39] <ubrl> ⇪ t: 求助 虚拟机无法启动 - 查看主题 • Ubuntu中文论坛 zz: psv1988
[07:52] <cherrot> 看了下便携路由 内存都好笑
[07:56] <Freebuilder> 液晶屏后面有层铝箔贴在机壳上，做什么的？
[07:56] <Freebuilder> cherrot, 笑什么？
[07:56] <cherrot> Freebuilder, 内存小
[07:57] <Freebuilder> 够用就好
[07:57] <Freebuilder> 压制成本
[08:04] <onlylove> cherrot: 能用就好，要那么豪华的硬件配置作甚，看我，还在2G的机器上做测试呢
[08:05] <onlylove> test
[08:05] <ubrl> onlylove:点点点. 16:07
[08:05] <onlylove> cherrot: 我得考虑给老大申请个新机器
[08:05] <yunfan> onlylove: 这就是你效率低的原因之一
[08:06] <onlylove> yunfan: 其实，就算我把自己电脑带来，效率一样低……
[08:08] <onlylove__> test
[08:08] <ubrl> onlylove__:点点点. 16:11
[08:09] <onlylove__> yunfan: 每个人都有自己的节奏，我拖拉习惯了，不过，这机器确实让我拖的更厉害
[08:09] <yunfan> onlylove__: 嘿嘿
[08:10] <nyfair> 就是，以前魔都大家都是慢悠悠很自在的，自从房价上去了，都变得赶着投胎似得
[08:10] <nyfair> 坑！
[08:11] <onlylove__> nyfair: 我那天突然想起硬盘里面那几个好几段的视频，然后看了半天mkvtoolnix的文档，还是用命令搞了，gui的搞不懂
[08:12] <nyfair> onlylove__: 你要干啥？
[08:13] <onlylove__> nyfair: 就是append啊……但是gui那个貌似不灵
[08:13] <nyfair> 哈？
[08:14] <onlylove__> nyfair: 虽然不明白为啥不灵，但是命令行搞定了
[08:14] <nyfair> 先open一个，然后选append，再选另一个不就好了么
[08:14] <yunfan> nyfair: 老司机 kandu最近求职
[08:14] <onlylove__> 啊，那是我没弄懂，它让添加资源，我把零碎文件都填进去了
[08:15] <nyfair> yunfan: 小黄油没门槛的项目不需要人了，我上次说的那个他技术可行否？
[08:19] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 14.10 • Ubuntu14.04系统下USB键鼠无法唤醒主机，求助大神 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474069 最近使用Ubuntu系统发现一个电源管理的问题，发现主机进入睡眠模式（ACPI S1 Mode）,USB键盘和鼠标都唤醒不了主机，但是查看系统里USB设备的唤醒功能是Enabled的，后来分别试了主
[08:20] <onlylove> nyfair: 人kandu能写编译器的
[08:20] <^k^> 新 常用硬件支持 • USB键鼠设备无法唤醒主机睡眠状态S1 Mode http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474070 主机进入睡眠S1模式，USB键鼠设备无法唤醒，而进入S3/S4模式，USB键鼠却是可以正常唤醒。同样的设备在Windows下面S1唤醒一切正常，主机平台是intel Haswell平台，试了一下Ubuntu12.04/15
[08:20] <^k^> ─> .10都有同样的问题，请问各位是否是Ubuntu对S1 模式支持不是很好?是否有办法解决？谢谢 S …
[08:26] <onlylove_> 我不是很肯定QQ这样的，在我司网络会不会丢消息
[08:28] <onlylove_> 断言是基于英文local的，让我这机器怎么玩，难道还先装个英文系统？
[08:29] <onlylove_> 算了，反正取到字符了就当过了
[08:31] <nyfair> onlylove_: 编译器我没那实力优化，但前端搞点parser还是弄得来的，但我现在需要的不是code能力，毕竟爬虫太简单，我要的是对于走势的理论分析知识
[08:31] <nyfair> onlylove_: 我看yunfan的忽悠能力就不错，然而人家不鸟我
[08:44] <yunfan> nyfair: kandu技术是肯定没问题的 虽然他未必坐过爬虫 不过搞技术的 你应该知道分两种人 一种是科班出来 说道本专业的就头头是道 其他的就抓黑 另外一种是 我们这种野路子 什么都可以去现学
[08:45] <yunfan> onlylove: 你执行下 locale_gen会死否
[08:46] <onlylove> yunfan: gen你妹，windows你gen给我看
[08:46] <yunfan> onlylove: 狗日的win 诶
[08:47] <nyfair> yunfan: 爬虫谁不会？我不需要他会，我需要理论知识
[08:48] <yunfan> nyfair: 那我不清楚 我也没理论知识啊 你干嘛忽悠我去
[08:48] <nyfair> yunfan: 因为会忽悠就不需要理论知识了啊
[08:50] <yurakucho> MangHuo: 18WAA8C4A 美亚有什么值得买的?
[08:52] <onlylove> 我刚多瞄了下case的代码，发现那个backup写的云里雾里的……
[08:52] <onlylove> 我还纳闷为啥会失败
[08:54] <yunfan> nyfair: 也对 kandu 当初来找我创业 也是希望我去搞忽悠 额
[08:55] <yunfan> yurakucho: 得路上走半个月吧
[08:57] <onlylove> yunfan: 看来你是频道公认的忽悠大拿
[09:00] <^k^> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • ubuntu server 15.10下如何驱动Broadcom无线网卡？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474072 没有图形界面，想要驱动Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN无线网卡，请各位支招！ 通过命令查找到如下列表： b43-fwcutter - utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware broadco
[09:00] <^k^> ─> m-sta-common - Common files for the Broadcom STA Wireless driver broadcom-sta-dkms - dkms source for the Broadcom STA …
[09:02] <onlylove_> test
[09:02] <ubrl> onlylove_:点点点. 17:04
[09:02] <onlylove_> 喵咪咪的，刚接一电话，intel的outsourcing 已经可以随便要工资了？
[09:03] <nyfair> http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=46311
[09:03] <ubrl> ⇪ t: Solidot | 失明女子通过切换人格恢复视力
[09:03] <nyfair> 卧槽，好恐怖
[09:04] <yurakucho> nyfair: 牛牛
[09:07] <onlylove___> yurakucho: 牛牛，intel的平均薪资到多少了，15K外包公司眼睛都不眨就答应了
[09:07] <onlylove___> yurakucho: 要知道这样的话，intel貌似要给外包公司45K
[09:07] <yurakucho> onlylove___: 母鸡啊...
[09:07] <yurakucho> onlylove___: 不大可能抽成这么狠吧
[09:07] <onlylove___> yurakucho: 那肯定不能是5K啊
[09:08] <onlylove___> yurakucho: intel给20，给你15?
[09:08] <onlylove___> yurakucho: 最起码要折半吧，你养活公司其他员工呢
[09:08] <yurakucho> onlylove___: 估计也多不了多少 走量
[09:08] <yunfan> onlylove___: 我一点也不忽悠
[09:08] <yunfan> nyfair: 说明失明也有可能是控制性的 而非总是器质性的
[09:09] <onlylove___> yurakucho: 走量不现实，除非全外包，自己做皮包公司
[09:09] <yunfan> onlylove___: 你把外包公司看成租房中介自己租下整套 然后打隔断出租不就理解了
[09:10] * onlylove___ 犹豫了
[09:10] <yurakucho> onlylove___: 折半差不多 考虑到还要交社保
[09:11] <yurakucho> onlylove___: 尽量别外包啊
[09:12] <onlylove___> yurakucho: 社保肯定是最低，我也不想外包，但是人开价了
[09:12] <onlylove___> yurakucho: 我估计我还是要低了
[09:13] <yurakucho> onlylove___: 我刚来北京的时候就差点去外包, 感觉不好
[09:13] <onlylove___> yurakucho: 现在愿意给我开10K+的公司不多貌似
[09:15] <onlylove> yurakucho: 我倒是一直外包，先在TI，后在vmware，感觉怎么说，对TI略讨厌一点，主要是感觉那边的行政不是很好相处，其他工程师倒是很好说话
[09:15] <onlylove> test
[09:15] <ubrl> onlylove:点点点. 17:18
[09:15] <yurakucho> onlylove: 公司到是都不错
[09:15] <onlylove> yurakucho: 差点去大众
[09:15] <yurakucho> MangHuo: 还不搬家?
[09:15] <onlylove> yurakucho: 离开TI的时候，外包公司给介绍了爱立信，不过没去成
[09:16] <yurakucho> onlylove: 建议你找找机会转换一下
[09:16] <onlylove> yurakucho: 所以我现在听到外包很头疼
[09:25] <onlylove_> yunfan: 那个失明的那个，我突然想起是鸡汤还是那什么，就是对残疾老兵喊立正治好残疾的
[09:28] <onlylove_> 我突然想起，要调试，可以先取消跟踪，然后再添加，不用每次修改都commit……
[09:45] <onlylove_> 一男子算卦：“大师，我人生还有意义吗？”大师：“施主，你是做什么的?”
[09:45] <onlylove_> 男子：“我是个浪子，每天开着车，从东城到西城，从朝阳到海淀，终日徘徊金宝街、三里屯，疲惫地浪荡于众多女子之间！累了，想躲开女人休息一下，而她们就会像疯了一样打电话给我！我该怎么办？”大师：“老衲占卜几十载，头回见一个送快递的把自己说得这么牛X。”
[10:10] <hoooodle> hello Do we have shadowsocks Linux client except shadowsocks-qt5??
[10:27] <Soengun> .
[10:49] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • 弱弱求教… http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474074 萌新初入ubuntu 学的小鹤双拼，想挂个码表。 求问windows下的txt转linux的txt，哪里错了？ zz: ZhanJingtian — 2015-11-26 18:09
[11:10] <^k^> 新 影音多媒体 • ubuntu音乐播放器开机后不能打开文件 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474075 如题,我的Ubuntu是装的双系统,每次开机后音乐播放器里的播放列表就不能打开文件,然后重新添加文件就能播放了,而存放在主文件夹里面的歌曲开机可以直接播放.试了好几个播放器都是如
[11:10] <^k^> ─> 此,请问是为什么呢? zz: qingshuizhiren — 2015-11-26 19:08
[11:51] <^k^> 新 服务器维护和硬件相关 • 用什么命令，检测网站被墙了？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474076 如：8.8.8.8 zz: Qubun — 2015-11-26 19:51
[12:25] <^k^> 新 服务器维护和硬件相关 • 这个网站，是否被墙？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474077 1.知乎网站浏览不了。（图1） 2.dig命令输出，可否断被墙？（图2） zz: Qubun — 2015-11-26 20:24
[12:37] <Freebuilder> 吼吼
[13:04] <maucat> 呵呵
[13:36] <vetwangcn> 新人，多多关照
[14:43] <^k^> 新 服务器维护和硬件相关 • dig命令用法？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474079 http://www.cnblogs.com/daxian2012/archi ... 54126.html 1.dig命令用什么参数，查看网站真正IP地址？ 2.dig命令用什么参数，检测网站是否被墙？ zz: Qubun — 2015-11-26 22:43
[14:50] <zechen11> 我用pptpd在vps上搭建VPN，可以连接上，但是无法上网，谁能告诉我如何debug吗？
[14:54] <^k^> 新 常用硬件支持 • AMD下载最新Linux驱动 介绍里已支持15.10 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474080 安装过程中依次解决了version.h；rpm-build等依赖问题，卡在了内核开发环境上，我该装什么啊。附上fglrx-install.log。 NOTE: If your system has logged the missing packages required for installation, install
[14:54] <^k^> ─> them in the order as per the log file to resolve package-dependency issues. Check if system has the tools required f …
[15:19] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 牛牛，笔记本自带的光驱能刻录光盘吗？
[15:20] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 哪年的，说是啥光驱没
[15:20] <biubiubiu> 硬盘上电影太多了，想刻录到光盘上保存
[15:20] <biubiubiu> 这个靠谱吗？
[15:20] <onlylove> 买新营盘
[15:20] <onlylove> 那个光驱通常被放坏
[15:22] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 硬盘长期不通电，数据能保存多少时间
[15:22] <onlylove> 如果存的是那种电影，你该实战下了，电影就删掉吧
[15:22] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 不知道
[15:22] <onlylove> 实在不行你买磁带机吧
[15:22] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 什么电影都有，各种珍稀资源
[15:23] <biubiubiu> onlylove: linux下刻录和读取硬盘的包叫啥？
[15:24] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 我这么和你说，笔记本光驱非常容易坏，这是第一点，因为这点，非常容易刻坏数据或者刻飞盘，第二，刻录盘是花青染料的，你买的盘不合格，没准三个月都用不了，就算合格，也不能被太阳晒了什么的
[15:24] <onlylove> 刻录和读取硬盘……
[15:24] <onlylove> 这个，dd算吧……
[15:24] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 写错了，是光盘
[15:25] <onlylove> 那很多啊……
[15:25] <onlylove> 真的很多，多到我都不知道叫啥
[15:25] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 那还是写硬盘里保险？ 我看mr.robot里男主就喜欢不停的刻录cd
[15:25] <biubiubiu> 把各种信息都刻录进cd了
[15:26] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 那是电影
[15:26] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 不，那是美剧
[15:26] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 你要刻录CD，不是不可以，一，靠谱的刻录设备，二，靠谱的盘片，三，苛刻的保存环境
[15:27] <onlylove> 你还要存个几百年当传家宝是怎么着
[15:27] <onlylove> 也许那时候就算盘没坏，也识别不了你的数据格式了
[15:29] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 靠谱的刻录机大概多少钱？ 实在不行就买个移动硬盘
[15:30] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 刻录机很便宜，靠谱的，你要专业刻录机么
[15:30] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 台式机刻录机就成
[15:30] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 笔记本这种超薄的太较贵
[15:31] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 那我倒是有台式机
[15:31] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 你那些珍贵的资源都有啥，说来听听
[15:31] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 我真不明白笔记本加光驱有啥用， 现在都usb了
[15:32] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 你自己都说现在
[15:32] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 你听说过光软互换不
[15:32] <onlylove> 我估计这个频道知道光软互换的都没几个
[15:32] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 没
[15:35] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 擦， 都是上个世纪的东西了， 谁知道
[15:36] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 难道你不是上个世纪的？
[15:39] <onlylove> 还真说不好，现在小朋友接触计算机早
[15:39] <biubiubiu> 咨询内容：是有很多布电影吗
[15:39] <biubiubiu> 京东回复： 您好！是空白光盘。感谢您对京东的支持！祝您购物愉快！
[15:39] <onlylove> 什么牌子
[15:39] <biubiubiu> 这个问题很好！ 买dvd-r会有很多部电影吗
[15:40] <biubiubiu> onlylove: http://item.jd.com/134733.html
[15:40] <ubrl> biubiubiu: ⇪ 【铼德DVD+R 1-16速】铼德（ARITA）DVD+R 16速 4.7G e时代系列 桶装50片 刻录盘【行情 报价 价格 评测】-京东
[15:40] <onlylove> biubiubiu: DVD买威宝
[15:41] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 铼德的DVD不如CD做得好
[15:41] <biubiubiu> onlylove: dvd和cd区别是啥？
[15:41] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 容量咯
[15:42] <biubiubiu> onlylove: dvd只有一面是存数据的对吧 另一面各种图标
[15:43] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 考虑你的需求，可以买dvd -9或者有钱直接上blueray
[15:43] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 你家光驱还带翻面的，当磁带呢？
[15:44] <onlylove> 不过不知道linux下面驱动是不是挑盘，能不能正确识别第二层是个问题
[15:44] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 没钱。。。普通即可
[15:44] <biubiubiu> onlylove: linux不靠谱，那我去win8下面刻
[15:45] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 如果你一部电影体积超过4.5呢，到时候你怎么办，拆文件么
[15:45] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 不是不靠谱，是不知道你用什么刻录程序，万一那程序不能识别
[15:45] <biubiubiu> onlylove: bd那可真用不起
[15:46] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 用不起就买移动硬盘吧
[15:46] <biubiubiu> onlylove: win下不都用nero什么的
[15:46] <onlylove> biubiubiu: win下面随便
[15:46] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 移动硬盘长期断电丢数据不
[15:46] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 其实windows自己的刻录功能就够用
[15:46] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 不知道
[15:46] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 建议你定期检查
[15:47] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 不管是光盘还是硬盘
[15:48] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 关键是不喜欢经常检查
[15:49] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 我还有个旧的笔记本好几个月不开一次机，每次都一点电都没有，会不会丢数据
[15:49] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 你自己买硬盘柜子吧
[15:50] <biubiubiu> onlylove: -r和+r啥区别 +r能写？
[15:50] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 一般没问题吧，好几年不开机的电脑开机了，系统还没毛病呢，要丢，不可能系统不丢
[15:50] <biubiubiu> dvd+r
[15:50] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 那个真心没啥意思，都是一次性标准而已
[15:50] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 能擦写的是RW
[15:51] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 移动硬盘推荐哪家？
[15:51] <biubiubiu> 希捷 西数 or ?
[15:51] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 300-500左右的移动硬盘
[15:53] <onlylove> 移动硬盘没概念，我都自己拼的
[15:53] <onlylove> 买个盒子，把笔记本硬盘塞进去
[15:55] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 512G硬盘感觉是不够用，
[15:55] <biubiubiu> 关键是电影占了80%
[15:55] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 什么时候了你还买512的，逗呢？
[15:56] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 笔记本自带的
[15:56] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 那更简单，买个大的，把系统迁过去，小的当移动硬盘，买个盒子
[15:57] <biubiubiu> onlylove: i3的笔记本 现在是不是该淘汰了
[15:57] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 几代I3
[15:57] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 芯片组叫啥名字，haswell还能用几年
[15:58] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 买个usb 3.0的移动硬盘，然后把系统搞移动硬盘上去？
[15:58] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 没必要，直接内置硬盘没啥
[15:58] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 你买移动硬盘还贵，你买盒子和笔记本盘便宜
[16:00] <biubiubiu> onlylove: i3-23xxm 的 不是haswell的
[16:00] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 他们说有那种专门为移动硬盘定制的硬盘，我不知道有没有那么回事，反正小心点用，什么盘都一样
[16:00] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 2系列的还能凑合几年
[16:01] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 不行了，现在看个720p都卡。。。
[16:01] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 那就换
[16:01] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 4G+的720p
[16:01] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 建议你等skylake
[16:02] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 我下次想买arm笔记本了，不知道以后arm会不会普及pc
[16:03] <onlylove> biubiubiu: x86你还有换windows的机会，arm可彻底没了
[16:04] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 而且arm性能实在一般般，有几个能做到水果那水平
[16:05] <biubiubiu> onlylove: arm有呀， win的移动版呀
[16:05] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 不是好多arm的win平板吗
[16:05] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 你不懂，你在意的是win这个系统，还是这个系统上的应用
[16:06] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 哦，那是不行
[16:06] <onlylove> biubiubiu: win是有rt版，第一，微软自己都放弃了，第二，那系统没能用的程序，你用那个系统玩纸牌么
[16:08] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 我现在经常下电影，感觉硬盘都快出毛病了，已经用了2年半了
[16:10] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 硬盘比你想象的要坚强
[16:10] <onlylove> biubiubiu: 也比你想象的要脆弱，所以，这种事，看人品
[16:11] <biubiubiu> onlylove: 睡觉去了，牛牛，晚安
[17:13] <MrXobot> fuck the chinese people!
[17:14] <chobutek> yea, fuck them, chinese people suck dick
[18:04] <halenrain> .
[19:45] <^k^> BinLi: 拜
[21:58] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg_, steam在打折
[21:58] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg_, 便宜的不能忍
[23:30] <Janos_> Hi all
[23:30] <ubrl> Janos_:点点点. 07:27
[23:30] <Janos_> can some1 help me a little?
[23:39] <Janos_> i guess you guys are all sleeping now :/
[23:56] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • 软件包问i题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474083 linux软件安装有yum包，rpm包，还有deb包，那么直接在终端中命令apt-get install是哪一类呢 zz: lzwdfas — 2015-11-26 23:02
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[00:22] <snizzo> appdevs are there any resources for migrating to uitk 1.3?
[00:22] <snizzo> some docs... links in release notes are broken
[00:24] <ahayzen> snizzo, the notes in bug 1508363 maybe useful
[00:25] <snizzo> ahayzen: ok, yeah that's helpful. Is there a change list on what has been fixed for music hub api?
[00:26] <snizzo> sorry for asking a lot, again :D
[00:26] <ahayzen> you mean media-hub api ?
[00:27] <snizzo> oh yes, sorry that one
[00:27] <ahayzen> snizzo, you could look at this http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/media-hub/stable/view/head:/debian/changelog
[00:28] <ahayzen> note if your asking about the background playlists stuff, that is still WIP
[00:29] <snizzo> ah ok. Yeah, that was in my interest. Maybe some bugs were fixed in ota8 :) because I think removing a single track wasn't working
[00:29] <ahayzen> and there is also qtubuntu-media, qtmultimedia etc to watch
[00:29] <ahayzen> snizzo, ah yes that was a bit broken
[00:29] <ahayzen> it may be fixed *now* in the dev channel, but not the stable
[00:30] <snizzo> ok, no problem. It seems I'm going to implement along with stable development :)
[00:31] <ahayzen> :-)
[00:31] <snizzo> silly question: is there the possibility to try apps on a bq e4.5 simulated environment without owning the physical device?
[00:31] <ahayzen> we are getting there though, the music-app is nearly working nicely :-)
[00:31] <ahayzen> snizzo, yeah there is a emulator
[00:31] <snizzo> for bq?
[00:31] <ahayzen> its a generic emulator IIRC
[00:32] <ahayzen> snizzo, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/sdk/tutorials/using-the-ubuntu-emulator/ maybe worth a read
[00:32] <snizzo> ah ok. I have an e5 but some people contacted me for problems with e4.5 I can't reproduce (I know where the bugs are though)
[00:32] <ahayzen> hmm
[00:33] <ahayzen> probably best to ask for logs etc
[00:33] <ahayzen> then work out if they are the app or platform
[00:33] <snizzo> ok
[00:34] <ahayzen> jhodapp is your man for media-hub if you have issues :-)
[00:42] <snizzo> ahayzen: usually the app path is always /home/phablet/.local/share/<appname> in every device?
[00:43] <ahayzen> snizzo, define app path ?
[00:44] <ahayzen> thats one of the places for storing stuff, eg IIRC our music app database is there
[00:44] <snizzo> uhm... the path of a folder writable by an app
[00:44] <ahayzen> you have ~/.cache/<appname> and ~/.config/<appname>
[00:44] <ahayzen> yeah those 3
[00:44] <snizzo> yeah, is that standard?
[00:45] <ahayzen> yup, let me see if i can find the docs
[00:45] <mcphail> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/platform/guides/app-confinement/
[00:46] <mcphail> scroll down to the bit about "Runtime Environment"
[00:46] <ahayzen> ah ! thanks mcphail
[08:04] <dholbach> good morning
[10:14] <popey> beuno, in the store, someone shared an app with me, and it says "You can find the package in the Ubuntu Store on your device" but I can't
[10:14] <popey> beuno, the app is not approved yet, is that why?
[11:46] <beuno> popey, the phone might not be authenticating all requests to the store yet (CPI being the key word)
[11:46] <beuno> alecu & co would know
[11:48] <alecu> beuno: popey: I understand that every request to cpi goes authenticated as of OTA-8 (as long as the user has authenticated on the phone, that is)
[11:48] <alecu> beuno: popey: let's ask dobey to confirm that.
[11:49] <popey> I'm on a phone which is beyond ota-8
[11:49] <alecu> popey: beuno: do you mind sharing some package with dobey and me, so we can check this?
[11:50] <popey> mcphail, ^
[11:50] <popey> it's his package he shared with me
[11:51] <alecu> btw, this sounds like a thing we should add to the click scope testplan.
[11:54] <mcphail> popey: do you have the link - I don't have access to it just now. Perfectly happy for it to be shared on a public channel
[11:54] <alecu> popey: any app would do, I think we've only added the signing, and have not properly tested sharing packages.
[11:54] <popey> the link you gave me in pm mcphail ?
[11:54] <mcphail> yes
[11:55] <popey> https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/share/7d5edce49c405acf4bb661b41d3f2a1249b365d5e10aa303997a48ee2627f5907a4d09168c2b28146dc1/
[11:55] <mcphail> "one link fits all" by the look of things
[11:55] <popey> dobey, ^ alecu ^
[11:55] * mcphail can't cut and paste as he is IRC'ing fromn his phone :)
[11:55] <popey> file a bug ;)
[11:55] <mcphail> ha!
[11:56] <popey> terminal does have copy :)
[11:56] <popey> but yeah :)
[11:56] <mcphail> popey: not in a shaky taxi, it doesn't
[11:56] <popey> haha :)
[11:56] <davmor2> popey: no need for a bug know issue
[11:56] <popey> I love your dedication to irc
[11:56] <popey> davmor2, I was kidding :)
[11:57] <alecu> mcphail: thanks!
[14:54] <alecu> popey: beuno: found out the issue: the click scope is asking the webclient to sign the url, but it's not passing it the credentials, so it's not being actually signed.
[14:55] <alecu> I expect we'll have this fixed by OTA-9
[14:55] <popey> excellent, thanks alecu
[14:55] <popey> ^ mcphail
[15:01] <alecu> popey: I've reopened the bug for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1483866
[15:01] <popey> ok
[15:02] <mcphail> alecu: popey: cheers!
[15:12] <snizzo> appdevs : /home/phablet/.local/share/<appname> is automatically created at app installation?
[15:13] <snizzo> If this isn't the case, is it possible to create the folder via app code?
[15:14] <snizzo> I'm having troubles because on BQ e5 the folder is automatically created, while in e4.5 this doesn't happen apparently
[15:15] <mcphail> snizzo: as far as I know it is supposed to be created. If not, you can create it yourself
[15:16] <snizzo> ok, I'll let you know if I still can't create that folder. (on 4.5 it's not automatically created for my app)
[15:16] <mcphail> hmm. I can test later on a 4.5 if you want
[15:17] <snizzo> mcphail: can you bypass payments? My app is not free
[15:17] <mcphail> snizzo: if it isn't created, it is probably a bug. Thinking about it, I suspect the default apparmor profile wouldn't let you create it yourself
[15:18] <mcphail> snizzo: not sure about the payments thing
[15:18] <snizzo> i can share a click package right?
[15:19] <mcphail> snizzo: doesn't work to share from the store - see above converation :(
[15:19] <snizzo> ahh ok. Well also via mail...
[15:20] <mcphail> snizzo: yep - if it is small enough
[15:20] <snizzo> 104k :D
[15:20] <mcphail> ha!
[15:40] <snizzo> mcphail: is it possible that folder is not created due to "There has been a AppArmor denial for your application."?
[15:42] <mcphail> snizzo: if the system doesn't create it, I'm not sure how your app is supposed to as your app cannot write to .local/share itself
[15:43] <snizzo> at the first run, my app was erroneously trying to write in places it can't write lie /sdcard/
[15:48] <mcphail> snizzo: my log - http://termbin.com/e1er
[15:49] <mcphail> snizzo: cerainly looks as if it is looking in the wrong path
[15:50] <snizzo> mm
[15:50] <snizzo> problem is, that click works perfectly on e5 because there's the folder /home/phablet/.local/share/com.ubuntu.developer.reavsoft.liveshuffle
[15:50] <snizzo> can you check if your device has that folder?
[15:51] <mcphail> doesn't have it
[15:52] <snizzo> there is my problem (my main problem)
[15:53] <snizzo> my apparmor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13515732/
[15:53] <snizzo> my manifest: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13515741/
[15:56] <snizzo> I could better isolate the problem by disabling parts of the app, but I don't own an e4.5
[15:59] <mcphail> I'm not sure. Is it something to do with the appname? Probably doesn't make a difference but I name my apps as per the guidelines at https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/publish/packaging-click-apps/
[15:59] <mcphail> perhaps your way of naming confuses the install hooks?
[15:59] * mcphail is just guessing here
[16:03] <snizzo> it could. Well, I don't actually have better ideas...
[16:11] <snizzo> tried to change name and reupload, following guidelines and on myapps web interface
[16:11] <snizzo> "The package name com.ubuntu.developer.reavsoft.livetouch is not valid. It can only contain dashes, numbers and lowercase ascii letters."
[16:12] <snizzo> oh well
[17:13] <snizzo> ahayzen: are there cases in which an app at installation time doesn't have /home/phablet/.local/share/<appname> folder?
[17:14] <ahayzen> possibly, not sure, usually something creates them for us IIRC
[17:14] <ahayzen> eg we just go Settings {} in QML and that makes the .config/<appname>/<appname>.conf maybe that creates the dir as well idk
[17:15] <ahayzen> popey, didn't you have an issue with creating directories with something? And had to bundle mkdir ?
[17:15] <popey> yes
[17:15] <popey> I bundled mkdir, mcphail bundled busybox in his
[17:16] <popey> (which is better)
[17:16] <popey> so I will switch to that in future)
[17:19] <snizzo> ahayzen: I have this app that only on bq e4.5 doesn't create /home/phablet/.local/share/<appname>
[17:19] <snizzo> on e5 and nexus 7 (latest devel) works
[17:19] <ahayzen> i'm not sure why that would be
[17:19] <snizzo> on e4.5 ota 8 doesn't. I've been lucky users sent emails instead of 1star ratings :)
[17:19] <ahayzen> you would need the log files from the device
[17:20] <snizzo> which file exactly shoud I ask for that is the most comprehensive?
[17:20] <snizzo> http://termbin.com/e1er this is mcphail's log on e4.5
[17:22] <ahayzen> snizzo, possibly the syslog for the period when the app is running, this will tell you of any apparmor denials
[17:23] <snizzo> mcphail: ^^ you think I can bother you for this? :)
[17:24] <JanC> can't you create a directory in the app itself instead of using mkdir?
[17:24] <mcphail> snizzo: yep - can you give me 15 minutes and I'll have a look
[17:25] <snizzo> JanC: mm, I'm not using mkdir... I use the standard xdg data folder, but it's not existent (only in e4.5 and I have e5)
[17:46] <mcphail> snizzo - couple of relevant lines - http://paste.ubuntu.com/13516969/
[19:39] <popey> Anyone know of a way to stop the phone from locking, from the command line?
[19:40] <popey> I can stop the screen blanking/dimming, but dont know how to stop it locking
[19:53] <davmor2> popey: no way I don't think the lock is tied to the screen blank, so keeping the screen away stops it locking
[19:54] <davmor2> awake even
[20:25] <popey> davmor2, might go looking for gsettings keys to poke
[20:26] <davmor2> popey: just remove your password that means it doesn't lock
[20:27] <popey> no, i'm talking about the lock when idle
[20:28] <davmor2> popey: ah right with you unity8 guys might be able to help you more with that, don't know when they are back
[20:29] <popey> i may have found it
[20:29] <popey> com.ubuntu.touch.system activity-timeout
[20:30] <popey> hm, that'll stop it locking, but on a fresh flash you get the lock screen, how do you bypass that I wonder
[20:31] <popey> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ gsettings get com.ubuntu.touch.system activity-timeout
[20:31] <popey> uint32 0
[20:31] <popey> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ gsettings get com.ubuntu.touch.system activity-timeout
[20:31] <popey> uint32 60
[20:31] <popey> yup, thats the one
[20:37] <popey> wondering how they do this in the lab
[20:42] <popey> aha! https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg08825.html
[23:26] <snizzo> ahayzen: you got e4.5?
[23:27] <ahayzen> snizzo, nope, just a mako (nexus 4) :-/
[23:56] <snizzo> ahayzen: XDG app folders are created when the package is installed, or at the first run?
[23:56] <ahayzen> i don't know i'm afraid
[23:57] <mcphail> snizzo: just home and going straight to bed so i'll have a look at the app tomorrow
[23:58] <snizzo> mcphail: no problem at all
[23:58] <snizzo> thank you a lot :)
[23:58] <mcphail> :)
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-devel
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[02:40] <Unit193> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/227646343/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-i386.sqlitestudio_3.0.7-0vanir1~16.04_BUILDING.txt.gz Ouch, nice failure there. :3
[02:47] <Unit193> (Temporary failure resolving 'ftpmaster.internal')
[02:51] <sarnold> Unit193: thanks, I've poked the IS staff
[02:55] <sarnold> Unit193: did you retry the build? any luck with that?
[03:06] <Unit193> sarnold: Of course, and yeah built fine. Thanks, I was just commenting, I didn't think it was worth poking people about. :3
[03:07] <sarnold> Unit193: dunno, sometimes little things can indicate problems looming :)
[03:07] <sarnold> Unit193: thanks
[03:08] <Unit193> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/23/%23ubuntu-devel.html#t22:44 Knew I'd seen it before.
[07:12] <pitti> Good morning
[07:13] <pitti> stgraber: yes, that's definitively planned, just a prio-3 work item; but Laney might beat me to it
[07:13] <pitti> stgraber: and yes, lxcfs regression :)
[08:04] <dholbach> good morning
[08:08] <seb128> lamont, hey, saw my comment/question on bug #1519518?
[11:39] <morphis> cking: ping
[11:40] <cking> morphis, yep
[11:40] <morphis> cking: I am currently fighting against a suspend problem on the MX 4 phone and awe suggested talking to you about this
[11:40] <morphis> its https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1505241
[11:42] <cking> ok, MT662x waking it up I see
[11:42] <morphis> yes
[11:42] <morphis> basically I am searching for good ways to track this one done
[11:42] <morphis> s/done/down/
[11:42] <morphis> as it seems to take quite a long time to occur
[11:43] <morphis> cking: should I give you a bit more background on what is going on and when this one first occured?
[11:44] <cking> morphis, I'm currently trying to debug an ext4 encryption bug, and my manager did inform pat mcgowan that we need to book in my time to look at these kind of phone bugs
[11:45] <morphis> ok
[11:46] <cking> sorry about that, I'm currently way overbooked on time
[11:46] <morphis> np
[11:46] <morphis> ogasawara is your manager, right?
[11:46] <cking> get pat to raise it with leann if it's a priority, yep
[11:47] <morphis> good
[11:47] <morphis> cking: basically I just wanted some tips how to tackle this one the best way rather than active help
[11:48] <cking> sure, ok, well, I'd suggest actually adding debug into the kernel to see what's causing the lock
[11:48] <cking> e.g. where it's coming from, when and why, gathering lots of debug info so one can see if one can spot a trend
[11:49] <cking> but that's all I can suggest w/o deeper diving, which takes time
[11:50] <morphis> ok, thanks for that!
[11:50] <morphis> that was a thing I am already doing, so let me continue with that
[11:50] <cking> unfortunately it is a "gather loads of data and try to spot what's going wrong over time" kinda bug
[11:51] <cking> :-(
[11:55] <morphis> yes..
[11:55] <morphis> but lets see what I find
[14:50] <lamont> seb128: I didn't. looking
[14:53] <lamont> seb128: I only changed what it complained about as I iterated through it. Ultimately, I tried smashing it back to python2, and the package I was actually working on didn't seem to fix the problem in the 3rd thing that I was actually trying to solve.
[14:54] <seb128> lamont, I tried, it complained about the exceptions but the str() didn't seem needed/it wasn't complaining about it
[14:54] <seb128> do you remember what error you had?
[14:54] <lamont> seb128: not at all
[14:54] <seb128> k, thanks
[14:55] <seb128> I might just not include it and wait for the next report :p
[14:55] <lamont> trying to build ibus_1.5.11 (I think there's a copy in my ppa)
[14:55] <lamont> wfm :D
[14:55] <seb128> why do you need the new ibus?
[14:55] * lamont also didn't check the package for other py3 issues
[14:56] <seb128> IntelliJ?
[14:56] <lamont> pycharm hates the old ibus which hates gconf
[14:57] <seb128> how hate?
[14:57] <seb128> is that on 15.10?
[14:57] <lamont> xenial
[14:57] <lamont> because of crazy
[14:57] <seb128> oh, we still don't have .11
[14:57] <seb128> what is happyaron doing? ;-)
[14:57] <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/+bug/1512956 btw
[14:57] <lamont> well, I think I did the merge into my ppa :D
[14:57] <seb128> happyaron, ^ could you have a look to that?
[14:58] <lamont> otoh, it was pretty much a "smash it with a hammer until it fits" merge, without much attention to accuracy
[15:00] <lamont> tjaalton: if today's turkey doesn't put me into a vegetative state, I'll be working on bind9.10
[15:01] <lamont> -backports defaults to pinned low? kewl
[15:07] <lamont> seb 1518118 would be related to 1512956
[15:08] <lamont> as in near-duplicate
[15:14] <seb128> lamont, right, it was closed as duplicate
[15:14] <seb128> seems happyaron is on it, he did the update in Debian
[15:14] <seb128> so I guess it's a matter of merging/landing to Ubuntu now
[15:14] <lamont> kewl
[15:15] <lamont> yeah, which my ppa package might actually have done
[15:15] <lamont> it's ftbfs in the ppa, because of gconf2
[15:15] <lamont> feel free to grab that for your gconf2 testing fun
[15:21] <seb128> k
[15:21] <seb128> I'm not even sure why ibus is still doing schemas conversion
[15:22] <seb128> gconf is deprecated for years, it should ship a gsettings schemas and that's it
[15:26] <tjaalton> lamont: wow, great to hear :)
[15:40] <ogra_> [FAILED] Failed to start Create Volatile Files and Directories.
[15:40] <ogra_> pitti, could we make that respect an existing mtab link on readonly filesystems ? ^^^
[15:42] <pitti> ogra_: oh, it's failing to create /etc/mtab?
[15:42] <ogra_> yeah
[15:42] <pitti> ogra_: right, I think this should be quiesced; mind filing a but about it?
[15:42] <ogra_> we create the link at image build time because the rootfs is readonly
[15:42] <pitti> bug too :)
[15:42] <ogra_> will do
[16:23] <juliank> bdmurray_: I'll apply the patch for #1503979 as is upstream (+ gitified commit message), as I'm about to do a 1.1~beta1 release to match the APT 1.1 upload to unstable
[16:23] <juliank> + the changes I mentioned
[17:49] <cjwatson> jamespage: Would it be possible for somebody to have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/charms/trusty/ubuntu-repository-cache/xz-indexes/+merge/277880 ? The CI failures don't make any sense to me (testbed problems?), and it'll need a charmer to review and merge
[21:56] <mwhudson> i really must stop running apt-get source with sudo
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-us-oh
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[03:22] <yano> https://youtu.be/ZTWQLWj1uoU
[03:22] <jenni> [ aldi song - YouTube ] - https://j.mp/1Gm1k1J
[22:00] <Unit193> Happy Thanksgiving, Ohio!
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-mythtv
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[12:17] <jarnos> mythtv-frontend can not play recording while Google Chrome is running when using Nvidia propriatory drivers (340.96 Linux_x86_64) for Nvidia Quadro FX570M in Xubuntu 15.10. Is the bug in the driver or in the frontend? When using nouveau driver, the frontend can play, but sometimes I get screen corruption in other situations using Xubuntu.
[12:18] <jarnos> Mythtv-frontend complains: failed to initialize video.
[12:25] <jarnos> This is only, if Chrome is setup to use hardware acceleration in advanced settings.
[12:44] <jarnos> However, if I suspend to RAM and resume, mythfrontend can play thereafter. But the CPU fan runs constantly at full speed after resume.
[12:50] <jarnos> The fan problem is with nouveau driver, as well.
[16:40] <jarnos> The issue occurs only, if use VDPAU profile. Similar problem to this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2107592
[16:42] <jarnos> As for the fan problem, I reported bug 1520242
[16:42] <Zinn> Bug 1520242 in linux (Ubuntu) "Fan is running constantly in high speed after resume from suspend to RAM" [Undecided, Confirmed] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/1520242
[16:50] <jarnos> As for the playback problem, I wonder why line such as "VDPAU: Error at mythrender_vdpau.cpp:603 (#23, The system does not have enough resources to complete the requested operation at this time.)" occurs? And why the system has enough resources after resuming from suspend to RAM, even if the same applications are running? In which package the bug is in?
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.712850
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-cm
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[09:16] <indy21> .
[09:44] <ongolaBoy> page mise à jour https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CameroonianTeam/Howto/InternetWithCamtelCDMA à l'occasion du passage d'un étudiant hier au bureau
[09:44] <ongolaBoy> avec une clé camtel :
[09:44] <ongolaBoy> CDMA2000
[09:44] <ongolaBoy> bon .. je n'avais pas le temps de faire ça propre ; donc j'ai inscris rapidement des infos
[11:15] <indy21> ongolaBoy : trusty n'est pas directement le paquet wvdial ?
[11:18] <ongolaBoy> en tout cas dans la machine que j'ai utilisé non
[11:19] <ongolaBoy> sur le wiki je pouvais dire «faites un apt-cache policy wvdial ; puis vérifier ..»
[11:19] <ongolaBoy> bref .. tu installes .. et si c'était déjà présent .. et ben tant mieux :P
[11:19] <ongolaBoy> il m'a été demandé de rajouter des images .. parait que ça aide à comprendre ...
[11:19] <ongolaBoy> perso ça ne me dit rien mais bon ..
[11:20] <ongolaBoy> j'essaye de ne pas raisonner en ne pensant qu'à moi même
[11:28] <indy21> donc le monde n'est pas pro 'command line'. :-)
[11:28] <indy21> plusieurs personnes utilisent ubuntu sans pour autant en connaître les aspects d'installation d'un logiciel
[12:34] <ariabbas> .
[13:49] <indy21> .
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2015-11-26-#launchpad
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[00:13] <sergio-br2> ugh, didn't work
[00:13] <sergio-br2> why it was working with gcc 4.9.2, but not with 4.9.3
[00:14] <sergio-br2> 4.9.2-0ubuntu1~14.04
[01:06] <sergio-br2> damn launchpad
[01:11] <sergio-br2> damn apt
[01:11] <sergio-br2> I just installed the gcc for dolphin ppa, with 4.9.3
[01:11] <sergio-br2> and i can't install the packages
[01:11] <sergio-br2> it asks to remove a bunch of packages
[01:12] <sergio-br2> or conflicts
[01:13] <sergio-br2> it's just a bug fix update 4.9.2 --> 4.9.3
[01:13] <sergio-br2> never saw something like that
[01:18] <sergio-br2> why that didn't happened with 4.9.2, from the same toolchain ppa?
[01:21] <sergio-br2> ok, I just deleted the 4.9.3
[01:21] <sergio-br2> it's possible to put the 4.9.2 again in the ppa right? (i deleted it too...)
[01:50] <sergio-br2> "You should not attempt to use deletion requests to re-upload the same source version with different contents, as this is still prevented even after the content has been deleted. "
[01:50] <sergio-br2> oh man
[01:50] <sergio-br2> I really need to re-upload gcc 4.9.2 in that ppa
[01:51] <sarnold> even though the archive is very picky about that, _copying_ from one ppa to another ought to work
[01:51] <sergio-br2> can someone help me here?
[01:51] <sarnold> it's building that it refuses to do
[01:51] <sergio-br2> humm
[01:53] <sergio-br2> I hope it works
[01:53] <sergio-br2> launchpad should be less pick about this
[01:56] <sergio-br2> yay seems it worke
[01:59] <sergio-br2> thanks sarnold
[02:05] <sarnold> the 4.9.2 copies?
[02:05] <sarnold> is your build underway? o rjust the copy worked? heh
[02:09] <sergio-br2> yeah, it copied
[02:09] <sergio-br2> it's pending yet
[10:05] <morphis> I am currently trying to register a launchpad project with the name 'wds', however I always get from launchpad "wds is already used by another project"
[10:05] <morphis> I've searched for a project with the name 'wds' on launchpad but couldn't find one
[10:06] <morphis> even the url https://launchpad.net/wds is not used by anything
[10:06] <morphis> there is also no source package with that name either in debian or ubuntu
[10:06] <morphis> anyone has an idea what else could it be?
[11:02] <cjwatson> wxl: Launchpad has private branches, but it's a paid commercial feature.
[11:04] <cjwatson> morphis: It's an old inactive project. File a question on https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad explaining the situation and we'll see what we can do.
[11:04] <cjwatson> morphis: (i.e. it is used, you just can't see it)
[11:39] <morphis> cjwatson: thanks, will do that
[11:52] <Odd_Bloke> So I'm trying to create OAuth configuration to put on a Jenkins system, but passing consumer_name to Launchpad.login_with doesn't seem to stop it using "System-wide: Ubuntu (<my local hostname>)" as the consumer.
[11:53] <Odd_Bloke> I also don't want to run it on the system in question, because we'll use the same credentials across multiple slaves, and having a specific hostname there will probably lead to confusion.
[11:58] <Odd_Bloke> Hmm, looking at the launchpadlib code, I don't have much choice in the matter.
[11:58] <Odd_Bloke> Unless I want to delve in to the API more than I want to.
[12:01] <cjwatson> It has to be a subclass of lazr.restfulclient.authorize.oauth.Consumer, I believe, not just a string.
[12:02] <cjwatson> Er, an instance of, I mean.
[12:03] <cjwatson> Consumer("Your consumer name", application_name="Your application name") should do; you can leave out application_name if it's fine for it to be the same as the consumer name.
[12:03] <cjwatson> (application_name goes in User-Agent)
[12:03] <cjwatson> I don't know the OAuth stuff very well, but this doesn't seem to be very much delving into the API.
[12:13] <Odd_Bloke> cjwatson: Aha: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lazr-developers/launchpadlib/trunk/view/head:/src/launchpadlib/credentials.py#L615
[12:15] <Odd_Bloke> So I'll just do a system-wide integration on one of the slaves and live with the potential confusion.
[12:25] <cjwatson> Odd_Bloke: Ah, true, you'd need to pass an authorization_engine, which gets a bit more complicated.
[12:31] * xnox recalls there were two types of tokens "system-wide" and "ad-hoc" one. With one type, one gets to set time limits, with the other one access permissions (e.g. read-only, write, write-private, etc.)
[12:31] <xnox> and it did depend on the magic consumer name.
[12:32] * xnox is sure i have used straight oauthlib before to get both types of launchpad tokens, bypassing launchpadlib. (when i was trying to write a minimal wadlwalker in python3, instead of porting launchpadlib to python3)
[12:33] <cjwatson> Probably a bit much for what Odd_Bloke is trying to do.
[14:14] <HeOS> Hello! Could you help us with the problem: we want to get information from LP by the link: https://launchpad.net/fuel/+milestone/8.0. But we see only 'Timeout error' instead data. Why it happens?
[14:54] <cjwatson> HeOS: Do you have an OOPS ID?
[14:55] <HeOS> cjwatson, sorry, I closed that tab. :(
[14:56] <HeOS> I'm going to open it again.
[14:56] <HeOS> cjwatson, (Error ID: OOPS-a6e1220cbc8ffb650971d176846a10b1)
[15:03] <cjwatson> Be with you as soon as I can - having difficulty getting oops.canonical.com to answer me just now.
[15:04] <cjwatson> In the meantime you could perhaps get equivalent information using the API.
[15:18] <HeOS> cjwatson, yes, I can, but not all members from my team can do it too unfortunately.
[15:25] <cjwatson> HeOS: I understand. Unfortunately the OOPS must be absolutely gigantic as I can't get it to load at all here
[15:25] <cjwatson> Oh wait, it *just* did
[15:34] <cjwatson> HeOS: I've filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1520281 as a starting point
[15:39] <HeOS> cjwatson, great thanks!
[16:34] <thopiekar> Hey, I started two days ago a recipe build, which takes a long time, and it normally takes 19hours, but stopped after 9hours. For me it is not a problem if you stop my builds. But is there time in a week where armhf is almost idle? Maybe on weekends? I also wonder why you stopped the build, because the quere for armhf was empty most of the time (just interested).
[16:35] <thopiekar> https://launchpad.net/~thopiekar/+archive/ubuntu/arm/+build/8342848
[16:36] <HeOS> cjwatson, btw, who should fix that bug?
[16:39] <cjwatson> HeOS: I'm working on it
[16:39] <cjwatson> thopiekar: As far as I'm aware, we didn't manually stop it, it must have crashed
[16:39] <cjwatson> thopiekar: Feel free to retry that
[16:41] <cjwatson> thopiekar: (That sort of "failed but no build log" is a symptom of the buildd crashing for whatever reason; we can look into it if it's reproducible)
[16:42] <HeOS> cjwatson, thanks. :)
[16:42] <cjwatson> thopiekar: virtualised armhf builds are in fact run on x86 builders with qemu-user-static emulation to execute armhf binaries - not very reliable, best we can do just for the moment
[16:43] <thopiekar> cjwatson: Ok, thanks. I just remember that you already contacted me in the past because of other build of other projects which were wasting your build time. And whenever it is possible and needed I will trigger builds less as possible and tweak them as well :)
[16:43] <cjwatson> thopiekar: I don't remember that, but it's probably less of a problem nowadays
[16:43] <thopiekar> cjwatson: I don't know much about arm64. But isn't it possible to run armhf, like i386 on amd64?
[16:44] <cjwatson> thopiekar: That's the plan, but we're not there yet
[16:44] <thopiekar> Ok, because I saw some arm64 builders ^^
[16:45] <thopiekar> cjwatson: Thank you for you feedback :)
[16:45] <cjwatson> thopiekar: Right, we're working on those but there are some reliability problems in the infrastructure that we still need to investigate, and we'll need a kernel patch and a couple of other things to get their armhf emulation sufficiently accurate for us.
[16:46] <thopiekar> How many of these builds do you allow me to run at once?
[16:50] <cjwatson> thopiekar: It's not currently limited. If we see you managing to take up a very significant fraction of the build farm on your own then we'll probably come and have a word :-)
[16:51] <cjwatson> https://help.launchpad.net/PPATermsofUse applies
[16:52] <thopiekar> cjwatson: Ok, like we had in the past. Hope you are not counting :D
[16:52] <cjwatson> thopiekar: It would normally only be if it causes complaints from other users. Just remember it's a shared resource.
[16:54] <thopiekar> Of course. I just often don't notice that I take so much resources because many of me work is made by recipes. To be honest I use recipes for 99% of the packages. 1% of the packages are copied because I have missing dependencies :)
[18:12] <cjwatson> HeOS: I've pushed a fix for review, but it may not be reviewed+landed+deployed until next week, and it's non-trivial enough that I certainly want to get review for it
[18:15] <HeOS> cjwatson, great work, thanks! We will wait merging of your request and implementing. :)
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[00:21] <myrti> well removing config made it worse, surprisingly.. wouldn't load at all anymore
[00:22] <kaddi> booted an older kernel now, which seems to help but will prolly fail within a couple of minutes too
[00:22] <kaddi> ah and i moved the .kde folder too for good measure
[00:22] <kaddi> which means all my logs are gone :p
[00:22] <kaddi> well.. not gone gone but not in the history here
[00:42] <kaddi> gonna try for the upgrade, everything else just seems to make it worse at the moment
[00:46] <kaddi> i think i'll just kill plasmashell for now.. :p
[02:41] <punto> hi.. how do I hide the taskbar on kubuntu 15.10?
[02:42] <punto> ok I found it
[10:20] <sammy_> hi
[10:20] <kaddi> hi, i just upgraded to 15.10 and now the search in application launcher no longer works. It does not offer any results at all. Any idea how to fix this?
[10:20] <sammy_> i want to ask how to move app panel to the left as ubuntu
[10:20] <kaddi> It also broke my digital clock widget, which now only says: Error loading QML file: file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.digitalclock/contents/ui/main.qml:46:34: Type CalendarView unavailable. Any advice on this would be welcome too
[10:36] <hateball> kaddi: does krunner work?
[10:37] <kaddi> not sure.. it crashed on one login, but not consistently. How do I check?
[10:38] <kaddi> hateball: i also noticed that i can no longer change screen resolution either
[10:39] <hateball> kaddi: You upgraded from 15.04 ?
[10:39] <kaddi> hateball: yes
[10:39] <hateball> kaddi: What GPU are you using? Or rather which driver
[10:39] <kaddi> i had kde 5.2.2 before
[10:39] <kaddi> hateball: it's integrated intel, driver I would check with lsmod?
[10:40] <hateball> That's fine, just wanted to know if it was nVidia/AMD which doesnt play nice with the regular screen settings
[10:40] <hateball> Hmmm
[10:41] <hateball> I thought 15.10 used krunner even in the application menu plasmoid, but I am on 14.04 on this machine so I cannot check
[10:42] <kaddi> yeah, it's not unlikely. I did see krunner crashing before :p
[10:42] <hateball> try firing it up from a terminal, "krunner &"
[10:42] <kaddi> already tried that, it didn't help for the search at least
[10:47] <kaddi> hang on, looks like the upgrade never really finished.. Just did a apt-get upgrade and there's 1200 packages being held back
[10:53] <hateball> heh
[10:53] <hateball> yeah, that sounds a tad broken
[10:54] <kaddi> upgrade froze on me yesterday, but i did a dpkg --configure and a apt-get install -f afterwards which ran through with no complaints.. so I thought it was done
[10:54] <kaddi> lol "we are sorry, kde5 (deleted) closed unexpectedly" guess whatever closed did so because it was deleted :p
[10:55] <kaddi> it's gonna be a while. :p I'll let you know about the outcome
[11:02] <elliot_> hi
[11:02] <elliot_> install conky ? kde
[11:06] <apparle> Is KDE 5.4.3 available as an update to 15.10 ?
[11:06] <apparle> Is it usually packaged into backports or similar ?
[11:09] <elliot_> yes Plasma 5.4.3
[11:09] <elliot_> :)
[11:09] <apparle> yeah Plasma 5.4.3. I always get confused on the naming.
[11:09] <apparle> I didn't see an announcement on kubuntu.org, so I wasn't sure
[11:09] <elliot_> Netrunner 17 released
[11:09] <elliot_> Posted on November 23, 2015 by starbuck
[11:09] <elliot_> The Netrunner Team is happy to announce the release of Netrunner 17 (codename Horizon) – 64bit version.
[11:09] <elliot_> (Note that the 32bit version remains at “16” until 18 LTS).
[11:09] <elliot_> snapshot-29
[11:10] <elliot_> Netrunner 17 ‘s codename is chosen as an indication of a mature Plasma finally emerging at the horizon with another update of KDE Plasma, Frameworks and Applications.
[11:11] <apparle> Netrunner isn't kubuntu right ?
[11:11] <elliot_> yes Netrunner
[11:12] <elliot_> ?
[11:51] <kaddi> hateball: seems to have been fixed with the configuration of the remaining packages. Sorry for the trouble
[11:52] <hateball> kaddi: :)
[11:52] <hateball> all is well that ends well
[11:52] <kaddi> hateball: yeah, i'm happy too.. :)
[12:08] <jubo2> Now that this Netbook is my irccin' base I gonna get a pressure air can and some silicon paste and take apart that stupid Lenovo
[12:08] <jubo2> Pressure air 400ml == 5.90€
[12:09] <jubo2> Silicon paste == 4.90€
[12:09] <jubo2> Screwdriver == costed ages ago
[12:10] <jubo2> worst that I can happen is I cannot put it together and no data is lost
[12:11] <jubo2> If the CPU starts running cool I will have salvaged 250€-300€ worth of HW
[12:11] <kaddi> is there a rule what logs i can delete? ci have a 1.3GB kern.log atm which i'm not sure is of anyuse really
[12:11] <jubo2> that laptop cost ~ £1,700
[12:11] <jubo2> when it was new in 2011
[12:12] <jubo2> kaddi: you have heard of automatic log rotation?
[12:12] <kaddi> nopw
[12:12] <jubo2> kaddi: hmm.. that's weird. I'd imagine it is turned on by default on a GNU/Linukka shipment
[12:13] <jubo2> kaddi: goes like this
[12:13] <kaddi> old logs are deleted automatically?
[12:13] <jubo2> it periodically moves filename.log to filename.log.0.gz ( or something very similar )
[12:14] <kaddi> ok
[12:14] <jubo2> moves filename.log.<N>.gz to filename.log.<N+1>.gz
[12:14] <jubo2> and deletes the last in the rotation
[12:14] <jubo2> that way you have history of logs but it doesn't need maintenance from human like your situation
[12:15] <kaddi> but will that break if I delete kernel.log.1 now? I onl have 40GB on / (small ssd) and 1.5GB in logs that are old really make an impact
[12:15] <kaddi> jubo2: i think it's working, i suspect something seriously freaked.. I do have kernlog.2-4.gz which are a coupl of kb only
[12:15] <kaddi> but kern.log.1 is 1.3GB
[12:17] <jubo2> kaddi: If I were you I'd look up the start-date and end-date from the file and move it to filename.log.2011-01-15-2015-11-26.tar.gz ( e.g. for start date Jan 15th 2011 and end date of today
[12:17] <jubo2> the touch filename.log
[12:17] <jubo2> *then
[12:17] <jubo2> and do that like yearly or so
[12:17] <kaddi> what's a good application to open a GB data file?
[12:18] <jubo2> then you have kernlog-2015.tar.gz kernlog-2016.tar.gz you get
[12:18] <jubo2> kaddi: any application that processet is serially without reading but small pieces of the file to memory at any time
[12:19] <jubo2> kaddi: grep is useful, awk, sed, tail -f..
[12:19] <kaddi> so the 1.3GB file is nov 15th to nov 23 2015
[12:20] <kaddi> looks like it basically consists of a billion Bluetooth: hci0 SCO packet for unknown connection handle 0 lines
[12:20] <jubo2> so you name that kernlog-2015-11-15-2015-11-23.tar.gz if you need to maintain non-data-losing
[12:20] <jubo2> kaddi: notice it is little endian encoding
[12:21] <jubo2> a 'ls' will always automatically display bunch of filenames like this in chronological order
[12:21] <kaddi> no, i don't need to mantain that, i want to know if i can delete it without breaking the rotation you told me about
[12:21] <jubo2> hmm.. I'm afraid I cannot help coz I don't know
[12:21] <kaddi> ah ok
[12:22] <kaddi> There's 12414292 lines of "Bluetooth: hci0 SCO packet for unknown connection handle" in that log
[12:22] <jubo2> kaddi: try
[12:23] <hateball> kaddi: yes, you can kill the file
[12:23] <jubo2> 'cp kernel.log kernel.log.old' ( better to use dates than just .old )
[12:23] <kaddi> ok it's deleted
[12:23] <jubo2> 'rm kernel.log'
[12:23] <jubo2> 'touch kernel.log'
[12:23] <kaddi> did a rm kernel.log.1 touch kernel.log.1.. so if it needs the file it's there, it's just empty :p
[12:24] <hateball> syslog will just spawn a new file anyhow
[12:24] <jubo2> I thought it would
[12:24] <hateball> you should probably see about why bluetooth is acting up tho
[12:24] <kaddi> and I now have 4GB free, which makes me feel much more at ease
[12:24] <kaddi> yeah, i probably should :p
[12:24] <kaddi> i only use it once in a month or so.. but was planning on doing that tomorrow, so might be smart to check it out today
[12:24] <jubo2> Seems in GNU/Linukka if you snatch the some files or directory or something it will just use it's best judgement to create a reasonable set of confs for itself
[12:25] <jubo2> that's the usual thing
[12:25] <kaddi> see, now the /var/log directory went from 1.4GB to just 38MB
[12:25] * kaddi has a happeh :)
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:26] <Smurphy> Howdy folks.
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Hi Smurphy
[12:27] <kaddi> heya
[12:27] <Smurphy> Ah - folks - if you have slowing down systems - a very good thing to do - especially with KDE/Plasma: ln -s /dev/null .xsession-errors
[12:27] <Smurphy> Hi BluesKaj :)
[12:28] <Smurphy> and if one wants to prolong the life of his SSD, mount /tmp, /var/tmp and /var/log to a ramfs. it will be cleaned upon reboot, and won't touch the SSD. Only - in case you need to troubleshoot - disable the ramfs.
[12:28] <Smurphy> :}
[12:29] <kaddi> but only if you have a lot of ram too ;p
[12:29] <Smurphy> mac mini here, i7 2.6GHz Quad-Core CPU, 16GB Ram. That should do it ;D
[12:29] <kaddi> 4GB of RAM here ;)
[12:30] <kaddi> well the bluetooth thing found it's own way of solving the problem, apparently.. it's no longer detecting my adapter >.<
[12:30] <BluesKaj> Smurphy, ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘.xsession-errors’: File exists
[12:31] <jubo2> G'moring BluesKaj
[12:31] <jubo2> *morning even
[12:31] <hateball> Smurphy: Maybe there is a reason that logs get written
[12:31] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: Of course you have to remove it first :)
[12:32] <jubo2> Kids: moring is when a ship is at anchor outside the port waiting for docking and unloading or loading space in the harbor
[12:32] <Smurphy> hateball: I have nothing against logs. I have something against my .xsession-errors file being 5GB in size at the end of the day.
[12:32] <jubo2> Morning is in Irc Standard Time always, no matter what the timezone or time of day
[12:33] <BluesKaj> old Hp 2008 vintage , amd cpu 5200+ dual core, 6G RAM, Samsung EVO 250G SSD
[12:33] <Smurphy> My laptop is a Asus Netbook, 4GB Ram, 1.8Ghz 4Core Atom CPU :)
[12:33] <jubo2> I would just like a computer that works
[12:33] <Smurphy> jubo2: Got plenty of them here.
[12:34] <jubo2> The power button would have fallen off this one if I hadn't Jesus taped it
[12:36] <kaddi> hmm, is there an easy way to check if the lack of bluetooth adapter is a hardware or a driver issue? should the bluetooth adapter show up in lusb/lspci if the drivers are missing?
[12:37] <kaddi> (i should probably mention again that I had a bit of a rocky upgrade this morning from 15.04 to 15.10, everything seems working now but the bluetooth. However I haven't used bluetooth in weeks so this problem may be unrelated)
[12:38] <jubo2> kaddi: yeah.. dist-upgrade is famous for causing some stuff to break but nothing very significant breaking
[12:38] <jubo2> kaddi: That is why I do semi-clean installation
[12:38] <jubo2> clean would be clean
[12:39] <jubo2> I mount /home at "clean" install time so it's semi-clean coz it obviously reads in some of the confs or just decline to write over owner's existing records
[12:39] <kaddi> yeah, due to my space issues, I didn't split / and /home
[12:40] <kaddi> might by a bigger drive
[12:40] <jubo2> kaddi: aha.. you save yourself from some headache you get yourself some other headacche
[12:40] <kaddi> yeah.. what i get for wanting a ssd :p
[12:40] <jubo2> Me fallen for the same allure
[12:40] <kaddi> when I had 500GB hard drive, i split /home / and all too
[12:40] <jubo2> bought 120GB SSD
[12:40] <kaddi> now I have a dual boot on 120GB and.. yeah.. it's not easy
[12:41] <jubo2> for 4 OS.. a Linukka in a Windows and a Windows in a Linukka
[12:41] <kaddi> i should wipe the recovery partition and make that /home
[12:41] <Smurphy> dmesg | grep -i Blu
[12:41] <Smurphy> That would tel, you if it has been detected by your currently running kernel.
[12:41] <kaddi> Smurphy: it shows nothing
[12:41] <clivejo> why would anyone want to dual boot into windows?!?
[12:41] <kaddi> i'm fairly sure it doesn't since all programs are telling me there's no bluetooth adapter present
[12:42] <kaddi> clivejo: because work sucks and has windows only programs
[12:42] <kaddi> :p
[12:42] <clivejo> kaddi: not setup a VM?
[12:43] <kaddi> clivejo: doesn't make much of a difference if I run Windows in a VM or as a dualboot, really.. The space used would be about the same
[12:43] <kaddi> and windows was already installed, so I don't go through the hassle of having to do the install again
[12:43] <clivejo> but windows doesnt like sharing with other OS!
[12:43] <jubo2> clivejo: All ain't got quadcore with such fine virtualization support and 16GB or more RAM that you can smoothly run Micro$hit Office in a Windows in a KVM or Xen
[12:44] <Smurphy> kaddi: Then bluetooth drivers have not been loaded.
[12:44] <clivejo> gonna give you no end of hassle
[12:44] <jubo2> clivejo: some of us poor
[12:44] <BluesKaj> VMs have never been a satisfactory experience for me with windows guests , always some problem
[12:44] <kaddi> jubo2: good point.. with 4GB of RAM, i'm not sure VB would be the way to go.. not if you want to work in the guest OS
[12:44] <Smurphy> kaddi: amke a: sudo modprobe bluetooth
[12:45] <Smurphy> it should load all kind of dependend drivers.
[12:45] <Smurphy> Thing is - it usually loads these at start automatically.
[12:45] <Smurphy> What computer is it you have ?
[12:45] <clivejo> I have a laptop with 4Gb RAM and it runs windows fine
[12:46] <clivejo> in VirtualBox
[12:46] <kaddi> Smurphy: ok, now I get messages about bluetooth being loaded
[12:46] <Smurphy> ok.
[12:47] <Smurphy> make: dmesg | grep -i Blu
[12:47] <kaddi> systemsettings still says there's no bluetooth adapter though
[12:47] <Smurphy> again
[12:47] <kaddi> http://pastebin.com/qSaAKSgf
[12:48] <Smurphy> Ok. Did you enable KDE Bluetooth Integration ?
[12:48] <kaddi> is the result i get from the grep
[12:48] <kaddi> it's enabled in systemsettings ->Bluetooth ->Advanced
[12:48] <Smurphy> Then it should work.
[12:49] <kaddi> yeah, i agree that it should work
[12:50] <Smurphy> Do you have bluez and bluedevil installed ? that's what is linking to KDE.
[12:50] <Smurphy> also rfkill is very handy.
[12:50] <kaddi> bluez and bluedevil are installed
[12:50] <kaddi> what is rfkill?
[12:51] <Smurphy> It gives you the possibility to enable/disable bluetooth
[12:51] <kaddi> how? rfkill bluetooth?
[12:51] <Smurphy> By default, I disable them all (Bluetooth).
[12:51] <Smurphy> rfkill list
[12:51] <Smurphy> by example ;)
[12:51] <kaddi> rfkill list bluetooth returns nothing
[12:52] <BluesKaj> how does the .xsession-errors file become so large on your machine , Smurphy, Mine is only a couple hunderd lines
[12:52] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: that is a good question ... As I was not able to reduce it, I decided that way.
[12:52] <Smurphy> rfkill list
[12:52] <Smurphy> only that !
[12:53] <kaddi> myrti@mytree:~$ rfkill list
[12:53] <kaddi> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN
[12:53] <kaddi> Soft blocked: no
[12:53] <kaddi> Hard blocked: no
[12:53] <kaddi> that's all
[12:53] <Smurphy> So there is no recognized bluetooth device there.
[12:53] <Smurphy> when you do: lsmod | grep bluetooth
[12:53] <Smurphy> What do you see ?
[12:53] <BluesKaj> i use autoremove and autoclean a lot
[12:53] <Smurphy> bluetooth 516096 29 bnep,btbcm,btrtl,btusb,rfcomm,btintel
[12:53] <Smurphy> Got this.
[12:53] <kaddi> myrti@mytree:~$ lsmod |grep bluetooth
[12:53] <kaddi> bluetooth 516096 5 bnep
[12:54] <Smurphy> Ok - which Kubuntu version are you running ?
[12:54] <kaddi> 15.10
[12:54] <kaddi> since this morning
[12:54] <Smurphy> OK - check this: lsusb | grep -i Blu
[12:54] <Smurphy> usually a USB device.
[12:54] <kaddi> nothing
[12:55] <Smurphy> Then your bluetooth device has not been recognized.
[12:55] <kaddi> yes
[12:55] <Smurphy> Is it internal, or a USB key ?
[12:55] <kaddi> that's what I was saying
[12:55] <kaddi> internal
[12:56] <Smurphy> Could you provide me the listing of: sudo dmidecode
[12:56] <Smurphy> it has all registered hardware inside.
[12:56] <kaddi> http://pastebin.com/0PwG3DXT
[12:59] <Smurphy> It doesn't show any Bluetooth. Could you also paste the "lsusb" please ?
[12:59] <Smurphy> and lspci
[12:59] <Smurphy> It has to be somewhere... :}
[12:59] <Smurphy> And - last question. Have you checked the driver manager ? Eventually you need to load drivers.
[13:00] <kaddi> http://pastebin.com/cHunUi1A
[13:00] <jubo2> I want to force my GNU/Linukka to slow the chip down or disable the critical temp autoshutdown
[13:00] <kaddi> yeah, it said something about needing an intel driver for microcode, which I let it download
[13:01] <jubo2> I don't care if the latter solution burns my chip broken
[13:01] <Smurphy> Microcode is smomething else.
[13:01] <kaddi> yeah i figure it might
[13:02] <kaddi> i'll be back in a bit, i'll boot into windows to check for the bluetooth there.. this is starting to be evry weird
[13:02] <Smurphy> ok.
[13:02] <Smurphy> Probably a bluetooth modem or so.
[13:05] <Smurphy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1388969 *prolly this*
[13:06] <jubo2> LiveCD + 'sudo lilo -M /dev/sdc mbr' -> Yet another unbootable Win7 rescued
[13:06] <jubo2> and naturally need to 'sudo apt install lilo'
[13:07] <jubo2> Then when you get bored of just Windows you can install GNU/Linukka again by the side and that time GRUB will nuke lilo from the MBR and take over
[13:07] <Smurphy> Reason I stopped using grub/lilo on UEFI systems.
[13:07] <Smurphy> Ok I';ll be off a while. Of kaddi comes back, provide him the link I pasted before please.
[13:07] <jubo2> Smurphy: That 500GB had an UEFI boot sector
[13:08] <jubo2> till I smashed it to bithereens with Gparted lol
[13:12] <BluesKaj> jubo2, using legacy mode and secure boot disabled?
[13:13] <jubo2> uhh..
[13:13] <jubo2> BluesKaj: uhh.. wut?
[13:14] <BluesKaj> in your urfi/bios
[13:14] <BluesKaj> uefi even
[13:15] <jubo2> The 500GiB disk that woulnd't boot eventhough Acronis said it would but that wasn't anything a 'sudo apt install lilo' and 'sudo lilo /dev/sdc -M mbr' wouldn't fix
[13:15] <jubo2> BluesKaj: I don't think I've seen such settings in the BIOS
[13:15] <BluesKaj> I'm curious about how other users handle booting after wiping the uefi boot partition
[13:16] <jubo2> that machine is weird.. It's a 2011 1st generation i5
[13:16] <jubo2> When in Kubuntu it burns the chip off
[13:16] <BluesKaj> I just letkubuntu ubiquity do it's thing and install grub
[13:16] <jubo2> When in Windows it slows the clock to 1-1.5GHz
[13:16] <jubo2> no sorrly 1.5-2.0
[13:17] <jubo2> and does not overheat
[13:17] <BluesKaj> nm, we're not even on the same page
[13:17] <jubo2> also in Windows the readings are by an order of magnitude less volatile
[13:17] <jubo2> something fishy in mi HW or microcode or somewhere
[13:18] <jubo2> ** the temperature
[13:18] <jubo2> the sensor does crazy in Kubuntu and causes overheat shutdown now and then
[13:18] * BluesKaj shrugs
[13:18] <jubo2> in Windows the temp fluxes like 2-3C
[13:19] <jubo2> they prlly just mellow it out algorithmically
[13:19] <BluesKaj> is there a question in there ?
[13:20] <jubo2> but the 15-20C variance in matter of few seconds without noticeable change in CPU load or current clock speed
[13:20] <jubo2> vs 2-3C variance in the Windows readings
[13:20] <BluesKaj> guess not :-)
[13:20] <jubo2> BluesKaj: I should prlly write about this in mah http://juboblo.gr
[13:21] <jubo2> the case is so bizarre
[13:21] <jubo2> and annoying
[13:21] <jubo2> and fixable
[13:21] <jubo2> silicon paste is 4.90€ / syringe
[13:21] <jubo2> 400ml pressured air can is 5.90€
[13:21] <jubo2> and I gotta go to the HW store to get mi mum's RAM
[13:22] <BluesKaj> well, this isn't your personal blog for musings and thoughts , if that's what you mean , jubo2
[13:22] <jubo2> so I get all on same trip
[13:22] <jubo2> BluesKaj: yeah
[13:22] <jubo2> not irc material
[13:22] <jubo2> BluesKaj: You want question?
[13:22] <BluesKaj> this is Kubuntu support iirc
[13:26] <jubo2> BluesKaj: Why does my Kubuntu15.10 GNU/Linukka burn the chip at ~ 90C ~ 2.0-2.5Ghz operating speed causing emergency shutdown because of temperature because the readings viewed in Psensor may flux 15-20C somewhat interdependent of CPU load. Windows 7 keeps the CPU ~ 1.5-2.0GHz quite independent from the load and the temps are in the acceptable ~ 70C zone with only 2-4C variance in the readings
[13:27] <jubo2> Dear #kubuntu, what is this?
[13:30] <jubo2> Psensor is a copyleft program 'sudo apt install psensor'
[13:30] <jubo2> Core Temp is a Windows program and reports real time temp sensor data ( prlly algorithmically smoothed but much more stable ) and real time CPU frequency
[13:30] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[13:31] <jubo2> with these I have been able to cross examine the behaviour of the various operating systems
[13:31] <jubo2> G'afternoon lordievader
[13:38] <BluesKaj> jubo2, dunno but have you cleaned your cpu geatsink and fins lately?
[13:38] <BluesKaj> heatsink
[14:00] <lordievader> o/ How are you guys doing?
[14:21] <Smurphy> jubo2: If there is a UEFI/EFI Partition on the disk, install refind - it can boot directly from the Ubuntu kernels.
[14:22] <Smurphy> apt-get install refind - but make sure the efi disk is mounted.
[15:24] <pat_rick> hey all
[15:25] <pat_rick> I've got trouble getting video hardware acceleration to work on Kubuntu 15.10 when using fglrx
[15:25] <pat_rick> using the packages from the official repositories, vainfo reports an error
[15:26] <pat_rick> using the packages from the AMD site (which are a bit newer), vainfo looks ok, but whenever I play a hd video on youtube all I see is a green video
[15:27] <pat_rick> as in, the entire video is green when I switch to hd
[16:16] <pat_rick> hey all
[16:16] <pat_rick> I've got trouble getting video hardware acceleration to work on Kubuntu 15.10 when using fglrx
[16:16] <pat_rick> using the packages from the official repositories, vainfo reports an error
[16:17] <pat_rick> sing the packages from the AMD site (which are a bit newer), vainfo looks ok, but whenever I play a hd video on youtube all I see is a green video
[16:17] <pat_rick> as in, the entire video is green when I switch to hd
[16:22] <hmeine> Hi, since the update from 15.04 to 15.10 I am missing *kdesvn* (not available in muon, no up-to-date online information about packages). I did not find any sign that it is abandoned or so, so can anybody here point me to how to get it?
[16:24] <lordievader> !info kdesvn
[16:24] <lordievader> !info kdesvn vivid
[16:25] <lordievader> hmeine: According to [1] 14.04 was the last version with kdesvn. [1] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdesvn
[16:33] <hmeine> lordievader: thanks a lot. apparently, nobody here heard about its fate either. :-(
[16:33] <lordievader> hmeine: I suppose you could compile it from source.
[16:33] <hmeine> the link is useful, though - thanks
[16:34] <hmeine> yes, I could. I just wonder about it – I thought it was one of the most important projects within kdesdk
[16:34] <hmeine> (along kdbg and kdevelop, I guess)
[16:34] <hmeine> and one of the best SVN GUIs for Linux
[16:35] <hmeine> I'll ask in #kde
[17:39] <patrick__> hey all
[17:39] <patrick__> I've got trouble getting video hardware acceleration to work on Kubuntu 15.10 when using fglrx
[17:39] <patrick__> using the packages from the official repositories, vainfo reports an error
[17:39] <patrick__> using the packages from the AMD site (which are a bit newer), vainfo looks ok, but whenever I play a hd video on youtube all I see is a green video
[17:39] <patrick__> as in, the entire video is green when I switch to hd
[17:57] <elliot_> hi
[17:57] <thesola10> silence.
[17:57] <thesola10> Oh hi
[17:57] <elliot_> kafkon
[17:57] <elliot_> ?
[17:57] <thesola10> ?
[17:58] <elliot_> I have a question
[17:59] <elliot_> rss install ?
[17:59] <elliot_> How to inaugurati
[18:05] <krytarik> !details | elliot_
[19:26] <patrick__> hey all
[19:26] <patrick__> I've got trouble getting video hardware acceleration to work on Kubuntu 15.10 when using fglrx
[19:26] <patrick__> using the packages from the official repositories, vainfo reports an error
[19:26] <patrick__> using the packages from the AMD site (which are a bit newer), vainfo looks ok, but whenever I play a hd video on youtube all I see is a green video
[19:26] <patrick__> as in, the entire video is green when I switch to hd
[19:34] <lordievader> patrick__: Is the driver loaded?
[19:38] <patrick__> lordievader: fglrx is loaded, yes
[19:39] <lordievader> What happens when you disable the graphics acceleration for your video player?
[19:39] <patrick__> almost everything seems to work, with the exception of video acceleration and blender refusing to acknowledge my GPU as an OpenCL device
[19:44] <patrick__> lordievader: no change in firefox or vlc
[19:44] <patrick__> interestingly vlc cpu usage is relatively low even for an hd movie
[19:45] <patrick__> might be the source material, though
[19:46] <lordievader> Hmm, does this happen to be a hybrid system?
[19:46] <patrick__> no
[19:51] <lordievader> patrick__: Could you pastebin the output of glxinfo?
[19:56] <patrick__> lordievader: have fun https://paste.kde.org/poxr7qaic
[19:59] <lordievader> patrick__: That looks alright. Not really sure what is causing the green screens, etc.
[20:03] <patrick__> lordievader: yeah, me neither, as I said, I suspect the video hw acceleration
[20:03] <patrick__> vainfo reports an error with fglrx(-updates) from the repositories
[20:04] <patrick__> the green videos only happen with fglrx from amd.com though
[20:04] <patrick__> if nothing helps, I guess I could go back to radeonsi
[20:04] <patrick__> fglrx isn't really good enough for most games anyway
[20:04] <lordievader> Does the driver load when using the one from the repo?
[20:05] <patrick__> yes
[20:05] <lordievader> Hmm.... Not really sure what this mean. What model card do you have anyways?
[20:05] <patrick__> both the amd one and the repo one work with the exception of the video thing
[20:05] <patrick__> 7850 w 2gb
[20:06] <heinkel_111> patrick__:
[20:07] <heinkel_111> patrick__: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?69302-Graphics-card-driver-advice
[20:07] <heinkel_111> <--- not sure if this is relevant for you
[20:08] <heinkel_111> but take a look
[20:09] <patrick__> heinkel_111: unfortunately not, but thanks anyways!
[23:37] <r_rios> Hello. I just updated to Kubuntu 15.10, but Plasma won't start up. LightDM shows up, but it gets stuck at the splash screen
[23:37] <r_rios> GNOME runs just fine
[23:48] <finetundra> What backend should amarok be using?
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[02:25] <liuxg> has anyone successfully turned off autopilot for a snappy device? I did exactly the same at the instructions at https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/blob/master/docs/autoupdate.md, but no success. I have replaced the "autoupdate" to autopilot.
[08:04] <dholbach> good morning
[08:10] <fgimenez> good morning
[09:44] <SaMnCo-desktop> Hello! If I would like to run a set of Docker Containers and give them access to a BLE USB stick, what would be the recommended method?
[09:59] <Chipaca> liuxg: echo 'config: {ubuntu-core: {autopilot: off}}' | sudo snappy config ubuntu-core -
[10:00] <Chipaca> liuxg: it seems autoupdate.md is missing the -
[10:01] <liuxg> Chipaca, is it "off", or "false"?
[10:02] <liuxg> Chipaca, it should be "true" or "false". it should not be "on" or "off"
[10:03] <Chipaca> liuxg: why should it not be on/off?
[10:03] <Chipaca> liuxg: y|Y|yes|Yes|YES|n|N|no|No|NO|true|True|TRUE|false|False|FALSE|on|On|ON|off|Off|OFF
[10:04] <Chipaca> liuxg: all of those are valid boolean values in yaml
[10:05] <liuxg> Chipaca, ok. let me try it.
[10:06] <liuxg> Chipaca, sorry, I am wrong. it works. also true/false work as well. :)
[10:10] <liuxg> Chipaca, by the way, what is the use of "-" in the command?
[10:11] <Chipaca> liuxg: conventionally, specifying - for an argument that expects a file uses stdin as the file
[10:12] <liuxg> Chipaca, I got it. thanks
[10:14] <liuxg> Chipaca, I just found that the method at https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/autopilot/ also worked
[10:23] <mattyw> hey folks, this new snap format, that's not landed in the repository yet has it (I just built a snap and got this when I tried to upload (failed to install: Signature verification failed: Internal error. E.g. Package corrupt, gpg failed, etc.)
[10:23] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Thursday and happy Cake Day! 😃 http://goo.gl/oKyw2t
[10:24] <ogra_`> mattyw, did you use the --allow-unauthenticated option to snappy install ?
[10:24] <mattyw> ogra_`, I didn't that must be a new thing?
[10:24] <ogra_`> oh, ignore me
[10:24] <ogra_`> i thought you meant you sideload a snap ... but you see that on upload
[10:24] <JamesTait> Error "failed to install" when uploading? o_O
[10:24] <ogra_`> oh, right
[10:25] <mattyw> JamesTait, ogasawara well, snappy-remote install
[10:25] <ogra_`> ah !
[10:25] <mattyw> yeah I'm sideloading
[10:25] <JamesTait> Ah!
[10:25] * JamesTait stands down
[10:25] <ogra_`> then you want the --allow-unauthenticated option indeed
[10:25] <ogra_`> (and no, thats not new at all)
[10:26] <mattyw> ogra_`, I'll give it a go, thanks very much, sure I didn't need it a few months ago but no biggy
[10:27] <ogra_`> i'm sure you always needed it ... might be that snappy-remote did set it automatically or some such though
[10:27] * ogra_` never uses it
[10:28] <ogra_`> (snappy-remote that is)
[10:28] <Chipaca> mattyw: a few months ago you might have been using an image in developer mode
[10:28] <Chipaca> mattyw: which imples --alllow-unauthenticated-potatos
[10:29] <mattyw> unknown flag `allow-unauthenticated'
[10:29] <mattyw> hmmm
[10:31] <mattyw> ogra_`, unknown flag, what do you use if not snappy-remote?
[10:36] <mattyw> ogra_`, just works now, maybe I did have a bad snap - all working now, sorry to trouble you
[10:49] <SaMnCo-desktop> is there a list of all caps available for users somewhere?
[10:50] <SaMnCo-desktop> eg. in https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/07/20/prime-time-docker-juju-and-snappy-ubuntu-core/ Dustin uses "docker_client"
[10:50] <SaMnCo-desktop> where does that come from?
[10:56] <Chipaca> SaMnCo-desktop: docker itself
[10:56] <Chipaca> SaMnCo-desktop: frameworks can extend caps
[11:03] <SaMnCo-desktop> Chipaca- ok so if I want a Docker container to have access to Bluetooth, I should have it use the framework "docker" so it can run
[11:03] <asac> so the kernel-snap thingy annouced by rtg the other day is not abouut a snapcraft plugin, but rather hard coded build logic in the kernel source tree? or did i miss something?
[11:04] <SaMnCo-desktop> and then, what cap / framework should I use to add the BLE stack?
[11:05] <Chipaca> SaMnCo-desktop: i'm not sure there's a bluez framework yet, but there might be
[11:05] <SaMnCo-desktop> Chipaca- Is there a list of public frameworks available somewhere?
[11:06] <Chipaca> SaMnCo-desktop: i don't think so, but i'm not sure
[11:11] <Chipaca> dholbach: so, two issues with snappy docs in d.u.c
[11:11] <Chipaca> dholbach: one is the autopilot doc, which is stale
[11:11] <Chipaca> dholbach: in fact i don't think it's ever been true for a released snappy
[11:11] <SaMnCo-desktop> Chipaca- so, is there a list of the caps available somewhere?
[11:11] <dholbach> yes, I know some are stale :-/
[11:12] <Chipaca> dholbach: the other is that I think most of those should have some kind of text that said "these are for 15.04; for rolling, go to <github/yaddayadda/docs/blah.md>
[11:12] <dholbach> yes, that's the plan
[11:12] <dholbach> the automatic importer does all of this, but it's broken and we're working with django cms upstream to get it fixed
[11:12] <Chipaca> ah
[11:12] <dholbach> what can I do for the short term? update the autopilot doc?
[11:13] <Chipaca> that'd help
[11:13] <dholbach> from the 15.04 branch?
[11:13] <Chipaca> oh, good point
[11:14] <Chipaca> let me check that :)
[11:14] <Chipaca> dholbach: is this manual or automatic?
[11:14] <dholbach> it's manual now
[11:14] <dholbach> I hope it's automatic very soon
[11:14] <Chipaca> dholbach: in any case, i think i should first fix them on the 15.04 branch and then point you at it there
[11:14] <dholbach> but I guess it'll take at least 1-2 more weeks
[11:15] <Chipaca> dholbach: i'll poke you later today when the 15.04 branch has the right autopilot docs
[11:15] <Chipaca> dholbach: thanks
[11:16] <dholbach> thanks Chipaca
[11:26] <ogra_`> asac, the kernel snap only uses binary debs
[11:27] <ogra_`> asac, it is actually rootstock hacked up :P
[11:34] <asac> ogra_`: why didnt we do the snapcraft plugin?
[11:34] <asac> was there a need to do the shortcut?
[11:35] <ogra_`> asac, it is a snapcraft plugin but using rootstock as backend
[11:35] <asac> it is?
[11:35] <asac> the git branch rt announced isnt
[11:35] <ogra_`> asac, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/rtg/kernel-snap.git/tree/
[11:35] <asac> its just a makefile in a source tree that does everything
[11:35] <asac> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/rtg/kernel-snap.git/tree/Makefile?h=amd64-from-deb-16.04
[11:35] <asac> how is that a plugin?
[11:37] <ogra_`> build_chroot: rootstock
[11:37] <ogra_`> sudo sh ./rootstock -a $(ARCH) -f $(LINUX_FLAVOUR) -m $(MIRROR) -s $(SUITE) -b $(BOOTLOADER) $(PPAS) -k
[11:37] <ogra_`> sudo chmod +r $(CHROOT)/boot/*
[11:37] <ogra_`> the only git i see in that file is to pull the most recent rootstock script
[11:40] <ogra_`> asac, and there is no other way to do it ... you need a proper initrd which you can only get from packages
[11:41] <ogra_`> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/rtg/kernel-snap.git/log/?h=raspi2-from-git
[11:41] <ogra_`> this seems to first build a deb from a kernel tree and then pipes it into rootstock
[11:41] <ogra_`> but effectively it is all deb based
[11:42] <ogra_`> (in the backend processing)
[12:05] <asac> ogra_`: ok, but this is not using snapcraft... guess will have to happen still then. thanks
[12:06] <ogra_`> asac, it is a snapcraft plugin and i plan to use it in the official builds later
[12:06] <sergiusens> ppisati, hey, are you going to be able to make it to the dtb meeting I set?
[12:06] <ogra_`> (or it will become one in the end at least as i understand)
[12:06] <sergiusens> ogra_`, asac what plugin?
[12:06] <ogra_`> sergiusens, tims kernel thin
[12:06] <ogra_`> *thing
[12:07] <ogra_`> sergiusens, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/rtg/kernel-snap.git/refs/
[12:07] <ogra_`> asac, as i understood tim plans to just hook it into the make plugin in the end
[12:08] <sergiusens> ogra_`, so it would be a part, not a plugin
[12:08] <ogra_`> might be ... better ask tim how he planned to integrate it
[12:09] <sergiusens> the only thing that worries me are the sudo calls
[12:09] <ogra_`> but as i understood the reason for the toplevel Makefile is to make use of the make plugin
[12:09] <ogra_`> yeah, he probably should use fakechroot
[12:09] <ogra_`> (and fakeroot)
[12:10] <asac> hmm. sounds not as cool as it could/should be, in this case snapcraft doesnt make life easier
[12:10] <sergiusens> ogra_`, can you do everything there with sudo?
[12:10] <ogra_> sergiusens, thats what i do in the touch initrd build scripts
[12:10] <ogra_> you dont need sudo at all then ... it fakes a root env
[12:11] <ogra_> asac, well ... you need the chroot bit to generate an initrd until we have any other solution ... you will always end up with scripts there ...
[12:12] <ogra_> the build wouldnt need to use a deb for the kernel itself though ... but i guess thats also more maintenance in the end
[12:12] <sergiusens> ogra_, so what's up the the talks about making initrd generic?
[12:13] <ogra_> sergiusens, i wish we could ... but that would mean a bunch of kernel changes
[12:13] <ppisati> sergiusens: yep
[12:13] <asac> ogra_: what is the other solution? who is working on it and if noone what needs doing e.g. the plan?
[12:13] <sergiusens> ppisati, great
[12:13] <ogra_> not sure we actually want squashfs and all of vfat built into every generic kernel
[12:13] <asac> if noone comes up with a better solution we have to go generic
[12:14] <asac> not sure if anyone is thinking about better solution though; hence asking
[12:14] <ogra_> asac, the only other solution would be a module-less initrtd that you can just pull from somewhere
[12:14] <ogra_> asac, but as i said above, that needs all bits we need to boot snappy built into the kernel
[12:14] <asac> sure
[12:14] <ogra_> ad as ling as we use the generic kernel thats tricky
[12:14] <asac> doesnt feel wrong to do that; who is pushing back?
[12:14] <ogra_> *long
[12:15] <ogra_> nobody is pushing back
[12:15] <asac> so vfat is surely in the kernel right now, no?
[12:15] <ogra_> not all of it
[12:15] <ogra_> codepages are mnodules
[12:16] <asac> whats that?
[12:16] <ogra_> we need all of vfat, ext4 and squashfs builtin
[12:16] <ogra_> nls codepages
[12:16] <ogra_> for being able to handle filenames
[12:16] <ogra_> vfat needs that
[12:17] <ogra_> and there are multiple (i never saw any other than iso-8859-1 used though, but there are like 30-50 of them)
[12:17] <asac> so we support some format of filenames?
[12:17] <asac> why cant we restrict us to those?
[12:17] <ogra_> vfat does
[12:17] <ogra_> its not us
[12:18] <ogra_> i dont think there is a utf-8 codepage that could cover everything
[12:20] <ogra_> asac, the prob is ... if you get a usb stick from a chinese friend it might need a different codepage ... vfat wouldnt mount it if that isnt available ... while we could build all codepages into the kernel technically that adds a huge amount of bloat
[12:21] <ogra_> OTOH i'm not sure if we could build only the codepage we use into the kernel and leave the rest as modules
[12:21] <ogra_> probably ppisati knows :)
[12:22] <sergiusens> Chipaca or mvo_ , is security-template: network-status a 16.04 only thing?
[12:24] <Chipaca> sergiusens: no
[12:24] <Chipaca> sergiusens: bah. it's under 15.04. let me check on actual 15.04
[12:27] <Chipaca> sergiusens: it's there in 15.04
[12:27] <Chipaca> sergiusens: /usr/share/apparmor/easyprof/policygroups/ubuntu-core/15.04/network-status
[12:27] <sergiusens> Chipaca, meh, then boo :-)
[12:27] <sergiusens> Chipaca, 2015/11/24 08:43:59.067839 security.go:205: [sc-filtergen --include-policy-dir=/var/lib/snappy/seccomp --policy-vendor=ubuntu-core --policy-version=15.04 --template=network-status --policy-groups=networking] failed
[12:27] <sergiusens> bwm-ng_0.6-3.2_amd64.snap failed to install: exit status 1
[12:27] <sergiusens> Chipaca, is it on sstable or only edge?
[12:28] * sergiusens starts the day and checks
[12:28] <Chipaca> sergiusens: stable r10
[12:29] <sergiusens> Chipaca, hah, review tools fail for this as well with 'unsupported template'
[12:30] <sergiusens> Chipaca, this is what I'm looking at btw https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapcraft/+bug/1519251
[12:30] <ogra_> beuno, i still cant install any snaps on either of my edge installs, how long do you plan to keep it that way ?
[12:30] <ogra_> (shouldnt that be rolled back until we have a proper solution ?)
[12:34] <Chipaca> sergiusens: you should probably have a word with the jamie
[12:34] <ogra_> mvo_, what do you think about forcing LC_ALL=C in an /etc/profile.d snippet that we ship in ubuntu-core-config ?
[12:34] * ogra_ is annoyed having to set LC_ALL=C all the time
[12:37] <beuno> ogra_, hi. We just need to make a decision on how to fix it. I'll get that decision in ~30 minutes
[12:38] <ogra_> ok
[12:53] <dholbach> hey sergiusens
[12:54] <mvo_> ogra_: +1 from me until have a image that supports locales
[12:54] <dholbach> sergiusens, if I list a file under binaries which is a shell script, should that work and provide a valid snap?
[12:55] <ogra_> mvo_, eek ... you really want to go down that rabbit hole ?
[12:55] <dholbach> sergiusens, or do we only want to list binaries there?
[12:57] <mvo_> ogra_: I think eventually we have no choice, for now I think forcing C or C.UTF-8 is fine
[12:57] <ogra_> mvo_, we always have choice :)
[12:58] <ogra_> but yeah. i'll add that snippet
[13:02] <sergiusens> dholbach, interpreted languages are binaries(!)
[13:02] <sergiusens> dholbach, well, to the purpose of snapcraft ;-)
[13:02] <sergiusens> dholbach, the examples are full of them
[13:03] <dholbach> sergiusens, I get this:
[13:03] <dholbach> - lint:control_architecture_specified_needed
[13:03] <dholbach> Could not find compiled binaries for architecture 'amd64'
[13:04] <dholbach> I guess that's a bug for click-reviewers-tools
[13:04] <sergiusens> dholbach, define architetures: [all]
[13:04] <dholbach> maybe somebody could help Jamie with a review of this one too: https://code.launchpad.net/~jdstrand/click-reviewers-tools/click-reviewers-tools.snappy1604/+merge/278218
[13:04] <sergiusens> dholbach, your snap is just one one one script?
[13:04] <dholbach> yes
[13:05] <dholbach> sergiusens, "architetures: [all]" doesn't fix it
[13:06] <sergiusens> dholbach, is there a typo there?
[13:06] <sergiusens> missing a c :-)
[13:08] <dholbach> sorry, "architectures: [all]"
[13:11] <dholbach> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dholbach/+junk/hello-world.snap/view/head:/snapcraft.yaml
[13:26] <dholbach> sergiusens, ^
[13:28] <sergiusens> dholbach, yeah yeah, one sec ;-)
[13:28] <dholbach> ok, no worries :)
[13:40] <beuno> ogra_, conclusion is that we'll update the edge image to point at the stable channel
[13:40] <beuno> and other things, that i'll send to the list in a little bit
[13:41] <ogra_> beuno, dont forget about stable then :)
[13:41] <ogra_> (i mean 15.04/edge, sorry )
[13:43] <beuno> yes, for 15.04 as well
[13:43] <beuno> mvo will solve all the problems, as usual
[13:43] <ogra_> ah, k, then it is in good hands
[13:44] <sergiusens> dholbach, so I guess we don't support your use case anymore
[13:44] <dholbach> ok...
[13:44] <sergiusens> dholbach, we could, we just don't
[13:44] <dholbach> I guess this might be a common one?
[13:45] <dholbach> is there another way to at least create a wrapper for scripts?
[13:47] <ogra_> sergiusens, well, as long as "snappy build" works, once can at least still build multi snaps manually :P
[13:47] <sergiusens> ogra_, snappy build will not work in 16.04
[13:48] <ogra_> sergiusens, yeah, and with that snappy loses a lot of excitement for me as maintainer ... unless you start supporting multi snaps in snapcraft
[13:48] <sergiusens> dholbach, I really doubt there will be a lot of snaps that are just scripts, but just create a bug ;-)
[13:48] <ogra_> since i have to maintain a single snap for each arch ... with a single page in the store etc etc ...
[13:48] * ogra_ guesses that wont win us more maintainers
[13:49] <dholbach> sergiusens, is that a snapcraft or click-reviewers-tools issue?
[13:49] <sergiusens> dholbach, snapcraft, we mark the arch as where you build it
[13:49] <dholbach> ok
[13:49] <ogra_> sergiusens, maintaining debs is easier then
[13:49] <ogra_> (which is very sad)
[13:50] <sergiusens> dholbach, if I find something to parse the tree and check if it is an actual binary we can do this automatically
[13:50] <sergiusens> ogra_, I have no idea what you are talking about ;-)
[13:51] <dholbach> sergiusens, you can probably borrow the checks from the reviewers tools
[13:51] <ogra_> sergiusens, that maintaining my stuff in a deb is abouot 10% the work it takes me to maintain 4 snaps
[13:51] <ogra_> with that new model
[13:52] <ogra_> we are making maintainer life really hard with that
[13:52] <ogra_> i.e. it wouldnt encourage me to turn my stuff into a snap as an upstream ... even thouh it is easier to set up a snapcraft.yaml vs a debian dir, the followup work is horrid
[13:52] <sergiusens> ogra_, you can take the store issues to beuno and for snapcraft, better bring in concrete problems (in the form of bugs would be nice so it's not fire and forget)
[13:53] <ogra_> sergiusens, well, thats not a store issue ... i have a few multi arch snaps
[13:54] <ogra_> (in fact node-snapper defaults to build multi)
[13:54] <ogra_> with dropping the ability to do that you make maintainer life really hard if i as maintainer want to support all arches
[13:54] <sergiusens> ogra_, as a debian package maintainer you need to create N builds for N arches; I don't understand how it is harder
[13:54] <ogra_> and i dont think a bug is the right thing for somethin "planned"
[13:55] <ogra_> sergiusens, i dont ... i upload one source package
[13:55] <sergiusens> ogra_, you should be able to build for N arches on launchpad
[13:55] * sergiusens goes back to work
[13:56] <ogra_> sergiusens, right, but then i still need to maintin N store pages because i have not a single multi snap but N arches i need to support now
[13:56] <ogra_> i simply think it is very discouraging to drop that feature
[13:58] <sergiusens> dholbach, ping me once you have the bug
[13:59] <dholbach> sergiusens, https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapcraft/+bug/1520248
[14:13] <Chipaca> dholbach: https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/blob/15.04/docs/autopilot.md is ready for you
[14:13] <dholbach> thanks Chipaca
[14:16] <dholbach> Chipaca, updated
[14:16] <Chipaca> huzzah
[14:25] <sergiusens> dholbach, this is also ready for you https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/pull/121
[14:25] <dholbach> sergiusens, checking in a sec
[15:20] <dholbach> sergiusens, so with this branch I'm required to specify architectures, right?
[15:23] <sergiusens> dholbach, yes
[15:24] <dholbach> it'd be nice if that wasn't necessary O:-)
[15:25] <sergiusens> dholbach, oh; but then ogra_ will complain that multi is not working either
[15:25] <sergiusens> dholbach, I will add auto detect into a future branch
[15:25] <ogra_> :P
[15:25] <dholbach> I don't understand
[15:26] <dholbach> couldn't this be completely autodetected at some stage in the future?
[15:43] <sergiusens> mvo_, Chipaca mind confirming my comment? https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/1520253
[15:45] <ogra_> hmm ... snappy list on my rpi shows me "classic.mvo" .... i thought thats amd64 only
[15:46] <davmor2> I think mvo only called it classic so he could get people to say classic.mvo more often
[15:47] <ogra_> well, i should see ubuntu-classic-armhf.mvo i think
[15:47] <davmor2> ogra_: spoilsport
[15:50] <sergiusens> dholbach, the arch stuff in click-review only checks for binaries, I'd need to walk the full tree, might be doable
[15:50] <sergiusens> err, hmm, all_files, nevermind :-)
[15:57] <beuno> ogra_, ubuntu-classic-armhf.mvo
[15:57] <beuno> hasn't been published
[15:57] <ogra_> oh
[15:57] <beuno> not sure if by accident or not
[15:57] <ogra_> https://uappexplorer.com/app/ubuntu-classic-armhf.mvo
[15:57] <ogra_> your API thinks differently :)
[15:57] <beuno> ogra_, classic.mvo
[15:58] <beuno> is marked as architecture independant
[15:58] <beuno> which I'm sure is a lie
[15:58] <ogra_> you'd guess :)
[15:58] <beuno> that's why you get it as a result
[15:59] <beuno> ogra_, it was published and then unpublished
[15:59] <beuno> seems uappexplorer doesn't keep up with removals
[15:59] <ogra_> ah !
[15:59] <beuno> Wed 25 Nov. 2015
[15:59] <beuno> Ready to publish.
[15:59] <beuno> Tue 24 Nov. 2015
[15:59] <beuno> Published.
[15:59] <beuno> mvo is such a tease
[15:59] <ogra_> haha
[15:59] <ogra_> yeah
[16:00] * ogra_ installs his debootstrap snap then ... who needs classic :P
[16:01] <dholbach> install the moon-buggy snap :-P
[16:06] <ogra_> hah !
[16:06] <sergiusens> dholbach, what does that do?
[16:06] <ogra_> cool
[16:06] <ogra_> someone needs to do a nethack snap too !
[16:06] <dholbach> sergiusens, it's a silly ascii art game
[16:07] <dholbach> sergiusens, I was just looking for something hello-world-esque to snap :)
[16:07] <tsimonq2> an irssi snap would be pretty badass
[16:07] <tsimonq2> or an ssh one
[16:07] <tsimonq2> (if it isn't already integrated)
[16:07] <ogra_> an ssh one ??
[16:07] <ogra_> ssh is
[16:07] <tsimonq2> ogra_: oh, ok
[16:08] <ogra_> i'm about to upload a bip snap
[16:08] <ogra_> and an approx one too
[16:08] <tsimonq2> ogra_: but an irssi one would be pretty badass, no?
[16:08] <ogra_> sure, go ahead !
[16:08] <tsimonq2> :D
[16:17] <tsimonq2> ogra_: would you happen to know how I can make myself a debootstrap Sannpy environment, instead of using a VM?
[16:17] <tsimonq2> *Snappy
[16:18] <ogra_> you mean on your PC ?
[16:19] <tsimonq2> ogra_: yep, I am using an i386 Lubuntu machine, which is old, so no Hardware Virtualization support
[16:19] <tsimonq2> ogra_: so that would probably be a way around that, right?
[16:20] <ogra_> no, it wont ... to run a snappy install you need a certain partitioning
[16:20] <tsimonq2> oh ok
[16:20] <dholbach> sergiusens, we'll go with next Wed 16 UTC, right? if you're fine with that, I'll send the announce and get it added to the calendars
[16:20] <ogra_> so some kind of vm is needed ...
[16:20] <tsimonq2> ogra_: I have a nicer machine, so when I get access to it, I will use that with a VM
[16:21] <tsimonq2> because an irssi snap would be awesome :D
[16:21] <ogra_> (unless you have actual hardware like an Rpi2)
[16:21] <tsimonq2> nope
[16:21] <ogra_> to actually build a snap you only need snapcraft installed
[16:21] <tsimonq2> oh, is that as simple as sudo apt install snapcraft?
[16:21] <ogra_> (thouh indeed, to test it you will need a VM to instal it in)
[16:21] <ogra_> yeah
[16:22] <sergiusens> dholbach, yeah, by then 0.6 might be out :-P
[16:22] <tsimonq2> ok, might as well play with it a bit, this could be awesome :D
[16:22] <dholbach> sergiusens, ok.. I'll just call it "what's new in snapcraft" :)
[16:22] <ogra_> if you have questions, just ask here
[16:23] <tsimonq2> ok, thanks ogra_
[16:27] <tsimonq2> ogra_: do you guys have support for the Raspberry Pi Zero yet?
[16:27] <ogra_> we cant
[16:27] <ogra_> it uses the same CPU arch as the RPi1
[16:28] <tsimonq2> ogra_: so NO Ubuntu on that AT ALL?
[16:28] <tsimonq2> sad :(
[16:28] <ogra_> yep
[22:14] <ogra_> sergiusens, is there any way to use a package proxy for snapcraft ?
[22:14] <ogra_> or make it use the sources.list entry from my build chroot
[23:16] <sergiusens> ogra_, USE_LOCAL_SOURCES=1
[23:16] <sergiusens> ogra_, the xenial snapcraft will always do that btw
[23:16] <sergiusens> oh, but the cache, the cache is different
[23:17] <sergiusens> the way python apt is done, it is not straightforward and haven't found time
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-za
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[06:40] <thatgraemeguy> moo
[06:54] <Kilos> cremora minora
[07:16] <thatgraemeguy> sjoe
[07:17] <thatgraemeguy> I wouldn't want to confuse the 2 when making the first cuppa of the day
[09:33] <andrewlsd> Maaz: last seen kilos
[09:33] <Maaz> andrewlsd: Excuse me?
[09:33] <andrewlsd> Maaz: seen kilos
[09:33] <Maaz> andrewlsd: kilos was last seen 2 hours, 38 minutes and 35 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-11-25 22:54:39 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-11-26 00:23:18 PST
[09:33] <andrewlsd> Maaz: thank you
[09:33] <Maaz> andrewlsd: Okay :-)
[09:43] <andrewlsd> anyone here still play / recently played "BZflag" ?
[09:44] <andrewlsd> coz I just re-discovered how much fun it can be.
[14:54] <Kilos> hi smallpox theblazehen
[14:54] <Kilos> hi there inetpro
[14:55] <Kilos> hot and dry enough for you
[14:55] <Kilos> ?
[14:55] <smallpox> Hey Kilos
[14:55] <Kilos> haha
[14:57] <gremble> They're celebrating thanksgiving. So I am just trying to be a small reminder of what they are actually celebrating
[14:57] <gremble> :P
[14:59] <Kilos> lol
[15:38] <theblazehen> hi Kilos
[17:56] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:57] <Kilos> Maaz hmm...
[17:57] <Maaz> hmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking
[18:42] <superfly> Hi
[18:42] <superfly> grenobyl: feeling dangerous?
[18:43] <grenobyl> Like I'm about to meltdown can cause my surrounding area to be uninhabitable for the next 10 000 years. How about you?
[18:44] <grenobyl> Have you heard of the idea of removing ORM's and instead making objects that can handle their own SQL?
[18:45] <grenobyl> http://www.yegor256.com/2014/12/01/orm-offensive-anti-pattern.html
[18:45] <grenobyl> https://blog.codinghorror.com/object-relational-mapping-is-the-vietnam-of-computer-science/
[18:46] <Kilos> hi superfly
[18:47] <superfly> grenobyl: that's because most ORMs are doing it wrong.
[18:47] <superfly> Kilos: hi
[18:53] <superfly> grenobyl_: you'll notice how they don't actually talk about Python's ORMs much
[18:53] <superfly> specifically SQLAlchemy
[18:54] <superfly> And they use Java (ugh)
[18:55] <grenobyl_> Yes I noticed the java. So SQLalchemy does not do this?
[18:55] <grenobyl_> It is funny, because I have a friend that likes Java and he makes fun of my preference for lisp, deriding it for it's parentheses even though java looks worse and has just as many parentheses :P
[18:56] <superfly> Well, zzzeek wrote SQLAlchemy to be different to the rest. He wrote it as a way to show people that ORMs can be decent
[18:57] <grenobyl_> My (albeit limited) experience with sqlalchemy has been similar. So I wondered whether it wouldn't be worth it to try play around without it.
[19:04] <superfly> http://simplicity.laserfiche.com/the-sad-story-of-mr-null-and-little-bobby-tables/
[19:04] <superfly> grenobyl_: ^^ related
[19:05] <grenobyl_> superfly: Yes, I know that. Stories like that are what prevented me from jumping over to programming as a career :P
[19:06] <superfly> Hrm, I need to get some rest. My migraine is threatening me
[19:06] <grenobyl_> Our local pharmacy has something called "migraine bomb" that helps a lot
[19:06] <grenobyl_> Maybe your pharmacist can mix something similar?
[19:07] <superfly> I've taken a myprodol, that plus some sleep should fix it.
[19:07] <superfly> Later
[19:07] <grenobyl_> Cheers
[19:27] <Kilos-> night all. sleep tight
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2015-11-26-#kubuntu-devel
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[00:01] <valorie> ah, project timelord, classic!
[01:49] <mparillo> valorie: No Telegram for me, but I will review the Trello updates.
[06:01] <valorie> mparillo: you can use the web.telegram.org - no need for an app
[10:23] <ovidiu-florin> valorie: for GCI, can we propose ideas?
[11:14] <soee> hiho
[11:49] <sgclark> morning
[11:52] <soee> hiho sgclark
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:31] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[18:41] <ahoneybun> congz sgclark for your new position!
[20:23] <valorie> ovidiu-florin: what sort of idea?
[20:26] <valorie> congratulations sgclark!
[20:26] <ovidiu-florin> valorie: we need a php deeloper to extend the multilingual plugin for the website
[20:27] <valorie> if you can mentor it, or find another mentor for it, great!
[20:27] <valorie> but is that a small job?
[20:28] <ovidiu-florin> I can mentor it
[20:28] <valorie> GCi is for tasks that will take a high school student 1-3 days
[20:28] <ovidiu-florin> but I don't have the time to do it
[20:28] <valorie> if the work can be split into small bits like that, great
[20:28] <ovidiu-florin> whell, it would take me a couple of days, with the necessary research
[20:28] <ovidiu-florin> inclluded
[20:28] <valorie> 1. subscribe to the kde-soc-mentor list
[20:29] <valorie> 2. give me your gmail and I'll invite you to the webapp
[20:30] <ovidiu-florin> I believe it would take a HS student more than 2-3 days
[20:30] <ovidiu-florin> but depending on how fast he can finish the reasearch and ramp up
[20:30] <valorie> some are pretty damn sharp
[20:30] <ovidiu-florin> he/she
[20:30] <valorie> it's worth the ask IMO
[20:30] <ovidiu-florin> ok then
[20:30] <valorie> you can always repeat the task if it takes more time
[20:31] <ovidiu-florin> [email protected] ?
[20:31] <valorie> kde-soc-mentor
[20:31] <valorie> the list you mention is for the students
[20:32] <ovidiu-florin> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo I can't find that in here
[20:33] <valorie> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-soc-mentor
[20:34] <valorie> it's not a public list
[20:34] <valorie> otherwise the students would sub
[20:34] <valorie> sneaky buggers
[20:34] <valorie> :-)
[20:38] <ovidiu-florin> :P
[20:41] <ovidiu-florin> subscribed, let the flood come
[20:42] <ovidiu-florin> valorie: use the same gmail I generally use
[20:43] <valorie> it's not high volume, thank goodness
[20:43] <valorie> invited
[20:43] <valorie> get your task described asap, please
[20:44] <valorie> you can use kde.org/gci as a link to the intro page
[20:46] <ovidiu-florin> it says mentor for KDE
[20:46] <ovidiu-florin> this is a Kubuntu project
[20:55] <valorie> Kubuntu provides KDE to the masses
[20:55] <tsimonq2> valorie: or KDE :D
[20:56] <valorie> Ubuntu is running GCi as well, but I don't know anything about their program
[20:56] <tsimonq2> KDE provides KDE to the masses
[20:56] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[20:56] <yofel> ...
[20:56] <yofel> sgclark: congratz :D
[20:56] <valorie> tsimonq2: the KDE community provides KDE software to distros, and yes, thus to the masses
[20:57] <tsimonq2> mhm :D
[20:57] <valorie> wow, freenode is unstable lately
[20:59] <ovidiu-florin> valorie: I don't like this part of the agreement: "You grant Google a non-exclusive, worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, free license (with the right to sublicense) to reproduce, prepare derivative works of, distribute, perform, display, and otherwise use the Submissions"
[21:00] <valorie> the student work is submitted to us, not to Google
[21:01] <valorie> but they do have the right to showcase student work, especially the winners
[21:02] <valorie> sec
[21:38] <ovidiu-florin> valorie: it says a minimum of 75 tasks
[21:39] <valorie> right, and we don't have the minimum yet
[21:40] <valorie> they'll flood in at the deadline -- I hope
[21:52] <ovidiu-florin> valorie: https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5286282389356544/
[21:53] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: how are you thinking of doing the multi-langauge ?
[21:54] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: https://trello.com/c/mw7uCd2v/53-set-up-translation-on-wp
[21:57] <clivejo> what needs to be modified?
[21:57] <valorie> ovidiu-florin: please add info about how to contact you such as IRC, telegram, etc.
[21:58] <valorie> and if you want to add another mentor, which is recommended, I have to do it unfortunately
[22:08] <clivejo> yofel: if I run debuild -nc does this not re-install the files?
[22:09] <yofel> that'll skip any targets that were successful, if it failed during install, it'll re-install, but it'll skip the compiliing
[22:09] <yofel> with target I mean the dpkg targets (configure, build, binary, ..)
[22:09] <clivejo> It seems to be totally ignoring files Ive added to not-installed :/
[22:10] <yofel> well, it should not *list* them, but they should still be in debian/tmp/
[22:10] <clivejo> and I havent the time to re-compile it
[22:10] <clivejo> it takes over an hour :/
[22:10] <yofel> what exactly are you trying to do?
[22:10] <clivejo> calligra
[22:11] <clivejo> Ive rebuilt with the package-set=desktop
[22:11] <clivejo> so it doesnt compile the active and mini
[22:11] <yofel> okay
[22:12] <clivejo> added some header files into not-installed, not list-missing is still complaining about them#
[22:13] <clivejo> s/not/but/
[22:14] <yofel> what's your debhelper version?
[22:16] * valorie leaves for thxgiving celebration
[22:16] <yofel> enjoy :)
[22:17] <valorie> y'all have a good day or night!
[22:17] <valorie> thank you yofel
[22:19] <clivejo> debhelper (>= 9)
[22:19] <yofel> the package version
[22:19] <yofel> that's installed
[22:19] <clivejo> locally?
[22:20] <yofel> native not-installed support in dh_install is debhelper >= 9.20151004
[22:21] <ovidiu-florin> valorie: where should I add the contact info?
[22:21] <clivejo> compat is set to 9
[22:21] <yofel> clivejo: apt-cache policy debhelper
[22:21] <yofel> in the build env
[22:22] <yofel> (that's what I want to know when I ask for the package version)
[22:22] <clivejo> 9.20151117ubuntu2
[22:22] <yofel> okay, so that's not the problem..
[22:23] <yofel> could you please pastebin your not-installed file?
[22:26] <valorie> ovidiu-florin: in the task description
[22:26] <valorie> probably at the end
[22:28] <ovidiu-florin> I don't understand why this is necessary
[22:28] <ovidiu-florin> the student should have a contact me link that points to my email
[22:28] <valorie> cool
[22:28] <valorie> well, it's different this year, sorry
[22:29] <valorie> gotta go
[22:29] <clivejo> yofel: https://paste.kde.org/pxw0uuhlp
[22:29] <ovidiu-florin> valorie: I say he should. I don't know wether he has or not
[22:29] <ovidiu-florin> mentioning my contact details in there seems too spamy
[22:30] <yofel> that looks correct..
[22:30] <yofel> hm
[22:34] <clivejo> dh_install: usr/include/sheets/commands/SortManipulator.h exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere
[22:34] <clivejo> yet its in not-installed
[22:36] <yofel> does this also complain?
[22:36] <yofel> dqk_dir=1 make -f /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/2/list-missing.mk list-missing
[22:38] <clivejo> only 6 missing files using that
[22:40] <clivejo> I guess I should import them in the rules file?
[22:41] <clivejo> might be defaulting to version 3?
[22:42] <clivejo> thats more like the output
[22:47] <clivejo> I guess KF5 is default now in xenial, so we have to state to compile and build using KDE4?
[23:01] <yofel> ok, so vanilla dh_install uses a different not-installed syntax then :(
[23:01] <yofel> I guess
[23:02] <clivejo> I added import qt-kde-team/2 to the rules and "debuild -nc"
[23:02] <yofel> nah, leave rules as it is. It'll use the correct one during the auto build
[23:03] <clivejo> its now giving me the missing files I expect
[23:04] <clivejo> isnt 2.9.9 the end of the road for calligra on KDE4?
[23:06] <yofel> probably... although the kf5 port doesn't seem very usable yet
[23:19] <clivejo> yofel: I *tried* to package it, but had a lot of trouble !
[23:25] <clivejo> yofel: so I fixed the missing files now that I have got some decent feedback, but I shouldnt leave that entry in the rules file?
[23:27] <yofel> I don't think we have that file directly included anywhere else, for a better feedback I would need to actually read the file, but I'm too tired now sorry.
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-br
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[00:01] <MerliM> Kadsh: sobre???
[00:14] <Kadsh> CTF caso alguem se interesse :)
[00:58] <nuno_nunes> boa noite
[00:59] <nuno_nunes> alguem esta a precisar de suporte
[00:59] <astroo-> nao por enquanto
[01:01] <nuno_nunes> devias ajudar aqui tambem
[01:01] <nuno_nunes> :D
[01:02] <astroo-> nao sei 99,9% sobre o ubuntu
[01:04] <nuno_nunes> pk nao testas em virtualbox
[01:04] <nuno_nunes> :D
[01:04] <nuno_nunes> e pesquisas
[01:04] <nuno_nunes> pk o linux é melhor que o windows :D
[01:57] <hggdh> MerliM: este brum está apenas trolling.
[01:58] <shallwe> ubuntu-br.org ainda fora do ar :( logo agora que voltei a ajudar no forum kkk
[02:02] <astroo-> ajuda e sempre bem-vinda ja que nao e muita
[02:29] <MerliM> hggdh: mano perdao esta a comer
[02:30] <hggdh> np
[03:51] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[09:23] <Guest45858> bom dia
[12:33] <shallwe> bom dia ChanServ
[12:33] <shallwe> estranho antigamente ele me respondia bom dia tb :(
[12:47] <lynxer10_> bom povo
[12:47] <lynxer10_> dia*
[12:54] <shallwe> bom dia
[13:16] <MerliM> bom dia
[13:16] <shallwe> bom dia
[13:16] <shallwe> acho que hoje de manhã o papo mais extenso foi os bom dias kkkk
[13:34] <kanazuchi> 26
[13:45] <MerliM> hggdh: Bom dia! Mano como vc esta hoje?
[13:48] <MerliM> RaspPI Zero a $5 18 reais
[15:21] <mirqui> boa tarde :)
[15:59] <elisboa> tarde
[15:59] <aedigital> buenas
[15:59] <shallwe> boa tarde
[15:59] <shallwe> o log de hoje do ubuntu-br se alguem acessar será: bom dia, e boa tarde :)
[15:59] <aedigital> yeah
[16:00] <elisboa> e boa noite
[16:00] <shallwe> :)
[16:06] <shallwe> xiiiii
[16:07] <shallwe> sério isso? AMD encerra suporte para placas da série Radeon HD 5000, 6000, 7000 e 8000
[16:10] <shallwe> ué não entendi agora fiquei boiando, a minha é hd 7850 o.O, a AMD coloca umas nomenclaturas muito estranhas, confunde muito o cara kkk
[16:11] <aedigital> pois eh, pra que simplificar se eles podem complicar
[16:11] <shallwe> a ta entendi agora
[16:11] <shallwe> é da HD 7600 pra baixo sera descontinuada
[16:11] <shallwe> como a minha é hd 7850 ta bom ainda
[16:12] <aedigital> mas se eh 7850 pertence entao a serie 7000 nao?
[16:12] <shallwe> ea linha hd 8400 pra baixo tb descontinuada, cada linha é uma coisa, não engloba tudo que susto
[16:12] <shallwe> AMD Radeon HD 8000 (HD 8400 para baixo), Radeon HD 7000 (HD 7600 para baixo), Radeon HD 6000 e Radeon HD 5000.
[16:12] <aedigital> entao nao eh a serie toda
[16:12] <shallwe> é o título que ta errado! esses caras que colocam a notícia vou te contar
[16:12] <aedigital> soh uma parte
[16:12] <aedigital> hahahaha
[16:13] <aedigital> ae mata qualquer um
[16:14] <shallwe> kkk, e saiu novo drive tb, até pra ubuntu 14.04, mas vou aguardar um pouco até ser mais testado :)
[16:15] <aedigital> anram
[16:15] <aedigital> xo almocar
[16:19] <elisboa> Vai uma guitarrinha baratinha aí? http://www.shoptime.com.br/produto/8085335/guitarra-eletrica-stratocaster-full-black-st-111-waldman
[16:30] <mirqui> ahaha fala shallwe :) , boa tarde
[16:30] <mirqui> e aos demais participantes do chat :)
[16:32] <edenc> o/
[16:32] <mirqui> fala edence :)
[16:33] <edenc> mirqui: fala, não tem autocomplete no client? rs
[16:33] <mirqui> ahaha aqui no sul , fala , quer dizer , e ai , tudo bem = fala :)
[16:37] <edenc> mirqui: não fio... se você digitar "ed" + tab num cliente de IRC que tenha sido escrito depois de 1989 e não seja um terminal de telnet, vai aparecer o nome da pessoa certo
[16:37] <shallwe> que legal: http://www.tecmundo.com.br/mini-pc/90906-raspberry-pi-zero-novo-modelo-pc-minitura-custa-r-20.htm
[16:38] <mirqui> edence , continuo sem entender , quer um whois só pq te dei bom dia ;)?
[16:41] <edenc> mirqui: não tio, só fiquei curioso pra saber porque você ainda está digitando os nomes manualmente (e errando, rs)
[16:42] <mirqui> please , nome de quem cara pálida?
[16:42] <edenc> esquece...
[16:44] <mirqui> ahaha se errei o teu nome , da um desconto , estou sem óculos
[16:44] <mirqui> e com preguiça de ir pegar
[16:46] <edenc> mirqui: por isso existe a feature de autocomplete
[16:46] <edenc> há pelo menos 30 anos
[16:47] <mirqui> velho , faz mais de 15 anos que não iso o irc
[16:47] <mirqui> descobri o xchat com o ubuntu , e nele escrevo , simples
[16:47] <mirqui> uso
[16:48] <edenc> 15 anos atrás já tinha autocomplete, rs
[16:48] <edenc> mirqui: o xchat tem autocomplete
[16:48] <edenc> só tô te dando um toque porque pode facilitar sua vida
[16:48] <mirqui> humm legal , e como faço para usa-lo ?
[16:50] <edenc> está citado lá em cima
[16:51] <mirqui> o.0 não ví
[16:52] <edenc> shallwe: :O
[16:52] <edenc> shallwe: QUERO PRECISO
[16:52] <shallwe> edenc: oq precisas?
[16:53] <edenc> shallwe: esse RPi aí
[16:53] <shallwe> kkk eu tb, a loja que venda não tem mais estou tentando achar uma pra importar :)
[16:53] <edenc> Uma saída no bar da pra comprar 5 e ficar brincando a noite toda
[16:53] <edenc> daí fica em casa invés de ir no bar
[16:53] <shallwe> edenc: kkkk verdade
[16:53] <mirqui> tenta em lojas de eletrônicos
[16:54] <shallwe> edenc: o seu fígado agradece ainda por cima :)
[16:54] <edenc> shallwe: e o psiquiatra também
[16:54] <shallwe> 5 dolares ridículo isso, mesmo importando é barato de mais
[16:54] <edenc> mirqui: não tem nem o RPi A em loja de eletrônico, quanto mais esse aí, kkkkkkk
[16:55] <mirqui> bom , são produtos eletrônico , em tese deveriam existir por aqui tbm
[16:55] <shallwe> estou curioso em ver o funcionamento estou olhando uns links, deve gastar menos energia ainda por cima
[16:55] <shallwe> mirqui: aqui onde? no Brasil? kkkkk
[16:55] <edenc> shallwe: sim, eu tenho um B+ que fica 100% do tempo ligado
[16:55] <shallwe> aqui temos sucatas amigo
[16:55] <edenc> mirqui: não tem RPi pra pronta-entrega nem nos EUA
[16:56] <mirqui> tem como tú emular a programação dele
[16:56] <shallwe> mirqui: tem como rodar emuladores :) imagina programas
[16:56] <edenc> não interessa emular
[16:56] <shallwe> é um linux mas em ARM
[16:56] <mirqui> só falta o raps
[16:57] <shallwe> edenc: só digo isso pro pessoal ter uma ideia do que ele é capaz de fazer :)
[16:57] <edenc> interessa que é uma máquina capaz de renderizar H264 1080p gastando menos de 5V e custando R$ 20
[16:57] <edenc> É um feito na história
[16:57] <shallwe> edenc: e esse zero agora é 1ghz por padrão, 40% mais rapido
[16:57] <edenc> O Alan Turing é capaz de sair da cova pra pegar um desse
[16:57] <mirqui> opa , errei , tem como emular o arduino
[16:58] <edenc> porque eu estaria interessado em emular uma máquina que custa R$ 20 e opera a 5V numa máquina que custa R$ 3k e opera a 20V? kkkkkk
[16:59] <mirqui> ahaha para não ter que acender ou apagar a luz quando vc sai
[16:59] <shallwe> edenc: kkkk faltou tudo
[16:59] <mirqui> e um monte de outras coisas
[16:59] <edenc> e deixar a máquina ligada gastando energia?
[16:59] <edenc> tsc
[16:59] <shallwe> hoje em dia tudo é questão do "Verde" por um mundo melhor
[17:00] <mirqui> sensor é sensor , gasta menos que uma lâmpada
[17:00] <edenc> ai jesus
[17:00] <mirqui> vezes o número de lẫmpádas que vc tem
[17:00] <edenc> shallwe: cara, dá pra espetar isso numa bateria portátil daquelas pra celular
[17:00] <shallwe> rasp pi tem até saída RCA o louco
[17:01] <edenc> se tiver uma impressora 3D, cê faz uma carcaça, compra uma tela de aparelho de GPS
[17:01] <edenc> e monta um laptop por R$ 100
[17:01] <edenc> kkkkkkk
[17:02] <edenc> quer dizer, um tablet sem touch
[17:02] <shallwe> edenc: pior que é :)
[17:02] <shallwe> com esse tamanho novo dele da pra fazer até um tablet :)
[17:02] <mirqui> com garrafa pet o.0
[17:02] <shallwe> edenc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8GZr2fyUY0
[17:03] <shallwe> cara fala tudo um reviw
[17:06] <edenc> shallwe: eu já rodo o Kodi no B+
[17:06] <edenc> com o Pulsar
[17:07] <edenc> que faz streaming de torrent
[17:07] <edenc> é uma lindeza
[17:07] <shallwe> edenc: legal, dá pra fazer várias coisas com ele né
[17:07] <edenc> É daora poder hackear
[17:07] <shallwe> e pensar que pode deixar sempre ligado gastando uma miséria de luz
[17:07] <edenc> Tipo, você instala o yatse
[17:07] <edenc> Que envia um monte de sinais do celular
[17:07] <edenc> Daí tem pause quando você recebe ligação
[17:08] <edenc> Dá pra redirecionar os alerts do celular pra tela
[17:08] <edenc> Dar share de vídeos do youtube pra tela
[17:08] <edenc> é lindão
[17:08] <shallwe> edenc: show de bola isso, gostei :)
[17:09] <edenc> 4 meses de RPi ligado é preço de comprar um RPi novo, kkk
[17:09] <shallwe> dizem que vai sair no brasil kkk, quero ver quanto
[17:09] <edenc> R$ 20 é um pouco mais que um mês de netflix, kkkkk
[17:09] <edenc> Eu cancelei tudo, só na pirataria
[17:09] <shallwe> kkkkk
[17:32] <faelz> exit
[17:35] <kanazuchi> netflix é em ubuntu
[17:35] * kanazuchi corre
[17:36] <aedigital> hahahaha
[17:36] <aedigital> runs kanazuchi , runs
[17:50] <shallwe> hummmm
[17:50] <shallwe> http://blog.felipetonello.com/2015/11/25/introducao-ao-linux-kernel/
[19:21] <shallwe> caramba fico abismado como tem empresas no Brasil sem preparo de atendimento ou mesmo de fornecer um serviço de qualidade
[19:48] <Logico> shallwe, elas não precisam atender bem pra faturar alto, se fosse assim pelo menos umas duas operadoras de celular ou tinham falido ou passado a atender bem os clientes
[19:49] <shallwe> Logico: ó ta vendo, vc ta falando apenas 1 delas kkk
[19:49] <shallwe> eu estava dando uma olhada em empresas que fazem websites e é um horror o portifolio delas, um site mais feito e com código pior que a outra
[19:49] <shallwe> e pior que tem gente que ainda compra kkkk
[19:50] <Logico> shallwe, eu disse "pelo menos umas duas", quis dizer que se uma ou duas se ferrarem, as outras tomam jeito antes (provavelmente)
[19:50] <Logico> eu não faço plano pós pago, não uso internet no celular, só o pré-pago com promoção
[19:52] <shallwe> eu tenho um plano mínimo só pra ter 4g mesmo
[21:42] <nuno_nunes> boa noite a todos :)
[21:42] <nuno_nunes> algeum esta a precisar de suporte
[21:42] <nuno_nunes> :)
[22:05] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[22:07] <jaqent> ola astroo-
[22:07] <astroo-> ola
[22:09] <nuno_nunes> hallo
[22:09] <nuno_nunes> ola
[22:09] <nuno_nunes> boa noite a todos
[22:10] <astroo-> ola
[22:11] <jaqent> nuno_nunes: boa noite o/
[22:21] <nuno_nunes> alguem esta a precisar de algum suporte
[23:34] <mauricio_> Boa noite, alguem programa em PHP??
[23:35] <astroo-> ola
[23:50] <rodrigo1> boa noite aaAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaa
[23:50] <rodrigo1> sono
[23:52] <astroo-> ola
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-locoteams
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[03:22] <tsimonq2> !lococouncil
[03:22] <tsimonq2> could someone give me some feedback on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WisconsinTeam ? I just updated it
[03:23] * coolbhavi clicks
[03:26] <coolbhavi> tsimonq2, data page could be renamed as About page or Team info page, Quick start can contain a LP team link as well
[03:26] <tsimonq2> coolbhavi: working on the Quick Start page
[03:26] <coolbhavi> are there any ubuntu members on the team?
[03:26] <tsimonq2> coolbhavi: it's a work in progress
[03:26] <tsimonq2> umm Anthony Hook
[03:27] <tsimonq2> that's all I can think of off the top of my head
[03:27] <tsimonq2> although I am looking to get my membership
[03:28] <coolbhavi> Maybe you can add existing ubuntu members name there and add a caption below that something like "next one could be you!"
[03:28] <tsimonq2> I will in the Orientation page
[03:28] <tsimonq2> working on that now
[03:29] * tsimonq2 ironically doesn't even DO documentation
[03:30] <tsimonq2> coolbhavi: I have my design guy working hard
[03:30] <coolbhavi> btw nice page :)
[03:31] <tsimonq2> coolbhavi: any minor suggestions besides what you have already said?
[03:32] <coolbhavi> Maybe have all the present and past history of meetings in /TeamReports
[03:32] <coolbhavi> and rename /meetings page to Meeting agenda
[03:33] <tsimonq2> TeamReports is kinda an older page, gonna keep it how it is for now
[03:33] <tsimonq2> but I will make an indicator in that page saying so
[03:33] <tsimonq2> and good idea
[03:34] <coolbhavi> okay :) and thats all I have for now :) good page though
[03:35] <tsimonq2> thanks :)
[03:35] <coolbhavi> :)
[03:35] <tsimonq2> wxl: for tomorrow, because I know you aren't on, please look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WisconsinTeam ad let me know what you think. I prettied it up a lot.
[03:35] <tsimonq2> coolbhavi: he is kinda my "mentor", so I wanna kinda brag and show him :D
[03:36] <tsimonq2> s/brag and show him/show it off/
[03:36] <coolbhavi> superb :) good work keep it up!
[03:36] * coolbhavi says good night from a freezing NJ :)
[03:37] <tsimonq2> night! :D
[04:38] <tsimonq2> wxl: where would we go to get our LoCo Ubuntu Forum reset?
[04:38] <tsimonq2> wxl: wait, nvm
[04:44] <tsimonq2> wxl: we voted to axe the forums
[08:04] <dholbach> good morning
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-desktop
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[05:59] <didrocks> good morning
[07:05] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[07:07] <hikiko> hello...
[07:07] <hikiko> I just woke up :/ My mobile ran out of battery :/
[07:07] <hikiko> +no alarm today :)
[07:08] <RAOF> A fine morning, then! :)
[07:08] <RAOF> BAH! Who broke the compose key!
[07:08] <hikiko> hahaha
[07:08] <RAOF> Also, why is it suddenly 6pm.
[07:08] * RAOF -> EOD.
[07:09] <hikiko> :DDD
[07:09] <hikiko> enjoy your rest of the day RAOF :)
[07:09] <didrocks> good morning hikiko, evening RAOF :)
[07:10] <seb128> RAOF, enjoy!
[07:13] <hikiko> good morning didrocks seb128 :)
[07:13] <pitti> Good morning
[07:16] <hikiko> good morning pitti :)
[07:18] <seb128> lut pitti
[07:18] <seb128> ça va bien ?
[07:18] <pitti> hey hikiko!
[07:18] <pitti> ça va seb128 -- oh, tu es plus tôt que moi :)
[07:18] <seb128> \o/
[07:18] <seb128> pitti, tu as bien dormi ?
[07:18] <pitti> seb128: je vais bien, jeu au basket hier était grand
[07:19] <seb128> "grand"?
[07:19] <pitti> seb128: "bon", Je suppose
[07:20] <seb128> c'est mieux oui
[07:20] * pitti keeps being misled by "great" vs. "grand"
[07:20] <didrocks> hey pitti!
[07:20] <pitti> bonjour didrocks !
[07:20] <seb128> "grand" is "tall" usually
[07:21] <pitti> seb128: mais beaucoup de personnes là sont grand aussi :)
[07:21] <seb128> google translator seems a bit confused as well and suggest "great" as first translation for "grand"
[07:21] <seb128> pitti, c'est vrai !
[08:32] <darkxst> hey seb128 pitti didrocks
[08:37] <pitti> hey darkxst
[08:38] <didrocks> good evening darkxst
[08:39] <darkxst> anyone care if I drop obexftp from gnome-user-share? so far as I can tell its useless with bluez5 anyway
[08:39] <darkxst> gvfs dropped it ages ago
[08:40] <darkxst> I doubt it even works and there are no supported clients
[08:40] <darkxst> seb128, ^
[08:41] <seb128> hey darkxst
[08:41] <seb128> darkxst, I don't know enough about it to comment, what's the motivation for the change?
[08:43] <darkxst> seb128, merge gnome-user-share to 3.14, but keep the prefs panel
[08:43] <seb128> seems fine to me
[08:44] <darkxst> it has the binary split, and there are lots of bluetooth fixes in there, that mostly only affect you guys
[08:45] <darkxst> and even including apache 2.4 support ;) though could have just cherry-picked that
[08:46] <seb128> updating is better, if we can
[08:48] <darkxst> seb128, yes that was my thoughts also
[08:50] <darkxst> patches are done, I'll do a merge with debian over the weekend
[08:50] <seb128> great
[08:52] <willcooke> morning all
[08:52] <TheMuso> Hey willcooke.
[08:52] <darkxst> hey willcooke
[08:52] <seb128> hey willcooke TheMuso
[08:52] <TheMuso> Hey desktoppers.
[08:55] <didrocks> hey willcooke, TheMuso
[09:03] <Laney> ahoy
[09:04] <seb128> hey Laney!
[09:04] <seb128> how are you?
[09:05] <pitti> hey Laney!
[09:06] <Laney> hey seb128 and pitti
[09:06] <Laney> doing good, my fingers are feeling the burn from climbing yesterday \m/
[09:06] <Laney> how about you?
[09:07] <didrocks> morning Laney!
[09:07] <pitti> Laney: doing good as well, my body is aching (in a good way) from the 2.5 h basketball
[09:07] <didrocks> ah, you feel better enough for climbing? Nice!
[09:08] <Laney> woo!
[09:08] <Laney> hey didrocks!
[09:08] <seb128> doing good as well, played some double tennis yesterday (but only for an hour, wanted some relaxing as well and it started raining)
[09:10] <Laney> nice
[09:10] <Laney> getting cold for that :P
[09:11] <Laney> oh look, dezrt's new tests fail
[09:11] <Laney> https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=glib2.0&arch=armhf&ver=2.47.3-1&stamp=1448490072
[09:12] <seb128> haha
[09:14] <Laney> https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=glib2.0&suite=experimental
[09:14] <Laney> all 32 bit arches
[09:14] * Laney shakes head sadly
[09:15] * TheMuso -> EOD, later folks. :)
[09:15] <willcooke> see ya TheMuso
[09:19] <seb128> RAOF, did you say you planned to update colord-gtk in Debian? ;-)
[09:28] * willcooke remembered the tar command first time
[09:30] <didrocks> willcooke: it's easy, just tar cf <yourfile>.<your_ext> dir
[09:30] <didrocks> based on the extension, it will compress (hence the 'c'), the file (f) in the desired format
[09:30] * willcooke uses cvfj
[09:31] <willcooke> oh
[09:31] <didrocks> no need for j, nor v :)
[09:31] <willcooke> when did it start doing that? (expecting the answer 1998)
[09:31] <didrocks> just "tar cf foo.bz2 bla" for instance
[09:31] <didrocks> a year and half ago :)
[09:31] <didrocks> so not that outdated!
[09:31] <willcooke> oh phew!
[09:31] <didrocks> (of course, same for extracting)
[09:32] <willcooke> I didn't get a letter from the elders of the internet about this
[09:32] <didrocks> heh
[09:32] <didrocks> hum, we don't produce any more usb image, right?
[09:32] <Laney> I thought the omitting of the compression type only worked for 'x'
[09:33] <didrocks> Laney: oh, possible it's doing that silently, let me check
[09:33] <Laney> check with 'file' that it's actually compressing it :P
[09:33] <didrocks> Laney: ah, you are right
[09:33] <didrocks> willcooke: withdraw what I said for compress then ^
[09:33] <didrocks> it's just creating a tar
[09:34] <didrocks> extract works though
[09:34] <Laney> tar xvf foo.tar.whatever works though
[09:34] <willcooke> neat!
[09:34] <didrocks> Laney: yeah, I would have hope some fallback based on the extension…
[09:34] <Laney> doesn't mean you get to forget the letters
[09:34] <Laney> which is Good Unix Knowledge
[09:35] <didrocks> FYI, I'll have a look this afternoon on our language that we shipped by default, expect some seed changes :)
[09:35] * didrocks wants to reintroduce the one we shipped at least in hardy
[09:35] <Laney> programming language or speaking language?
[09:35] <didrocks> (as no more size constraints…)
[09:36] <didrocks> speaking :p
[09:36] <didrocks> yeah, haskell on the CD of course! :)
[09:37] <Laney> how much space are you talking about?
[09:37] <didrocks> I need to remember how this works on install without Internet access. I guess we just needed to ship in live
[09:37] <didrocks> Laney: well, it's hard to know in advance
[09:37] <Laney> no limit but that doesn't mean go super wild
[09:37] <didrocks> Laney: hence, we need to look at
[09:37] <didrocks> yeah
[09:37] <Laney> sure it is, boot a live iso and install the new packages
[09:37] <didrocks> I won't ship a big extra number of them
[09:37] <didrocks> Laney: well, you will the know the extracted size
[09:37] <Laney> you know the size of the debs
[09:38] <Laney> which is more or less good enough
[09:38] <didrocks> then, we can still approx that package size == size in the squashfs
[09:38] <didrocks> yep
[09:38] <didrocks> that's what I'll look at, to see how many we can ship reasonably
[09:38] <didrocks> (more afraid about the install part, that this is still working as expected)
[09:38] <Laney> what install part
[09:39] <didrocks> like, you don't have any network connexion
[09:39] <didrocks> connection*
[09:39] <didrocks> you choose "de"
[09:39] <didrocks> which is part of the live task
[09:39] <didrocks> ensure that we have it installed
[09:39] <didrocks> and that other languages are removed when not selected
[09:40] <Laney> what makes you think it doesn't work?
[09:41] <Laney> we definitely touched this area with chinese stuff in wily
[09:41] <didrocks> did anyone test that no chinese package is installed after a fresh one?
[09:41] <didrocks> (if you select en)
[09:41] <Laney> yes
[09:41] <didrocks> good then :)
[09:42] <Laney> so I'm wondering what you have seen
[09:42] <didrocks> nothing
[09:42] <Laney> or is it just a random thing?
[09:42] <didrocks> just telling "we should ensure it's working"
[09:42] <didrocks> so unsure what this discussion is even about
[09:43] <davmor2> willcooke: next you'll be saying you know how to use vim, sed and regex ;)
[09:43] <willcooke> I've being using vim for years
[09:43] <willcooke> mainly because I can't work out how to quit it
[09:43] <willcooke> badum *tish*
[09:43] <Laney> unsure> you started it?
[09:44] <didrocks> Laney: the bikeshedding part? I don't think so :)
[09:44] <didrocks> Laney: just telling "I'm going to work on that and test it, just a warning"
[09:44] <Laney> bikeshedding?
[09:44] * didrocks shrugs
[09:44] <Laney> I was trying to establish if you've seen something because I worked on the area
[09:44] <Laney> not really bikeshedding
[09:44] <davmor2> willcooke: wompwompwomp.com
[10:03] <Trevinho> Hi
[10:05] <seb128> hey trevinho, how are you? was the drive back alright yesterday?
[10:06] <larsu> where did you drive?
[10:06] <Trevinho> seb128: yes.... Alright. Then I hacked till late on unity / nautilus :-P
[10:06] <seb128> oh, larsu is there as well!
[10:06] <seb128> hey larsu ;-)
[10:07] <Trevinho> larsu: I was at my parents home wich is 1.5hrs far from Florence, and I had to go back to my place
[10:07] <didrocks> good morning Trevinho!
[10:07] <Trevinho> Hi didrocks
[10:09] <larsu> ah cool
[10:09] <larsu> and good mornigng I guess
[10:09] * larsu forgot to say that earlier :)
[10:09] <larsu> hi seb128 & didrocks as well!
[10:09] <pitti> hey larsu, guten MOrgen!
[10:09] <didrocks> hey larsu ;)
[10:10] <larsu> moin pitti!
[10:13] <attente> good morning
[10:14] <willcooke> attente, O_o early start?
[10:15] <seb128> hey attente
[10:15] <attente> willcooke: trouble sleeping...
[10:15] <seb128> willcooke, how is the gedit theming going btw?
[10:15] <willcooke> seb128, - spooky! I was just about to ask you to try it
[10:15] <willcooke> there are two branches you will need
[10:16] <seb128> hehe
[10:16] <willcooke> https://code.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubuntu-themes/geditspecific
[10:16] <willcooke> https://code.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubuntu-themes/notebooktabs
[10:16] <willcooke> they address different issues, but the gedit changes need the notebook changes to look ok
[10:18] <willcooke> There are still some minor issues with the tabs (borders and such, but a) I don't have time to spend looking at it right now and b) I think we need to leave something for the Google Code In guys to work on
[10:19] <xnox> welcome seb =)
[10:19] <attente> seb128: good morning
[10:19] * xnox should scroll down scrollback before replying
[10:19] * xnox had the chat at seb saying good morning =)
[10:19] <darkxst> willcooke, heh, lets put everthing on hold, and leave it for the google code in, kids ;)
[10:20] <willcooke> darkxst, :) We can try. It's a good strategy
[10:20] <seb128> hey xnox!
[10:20] <attente> seb128: do you have time to review https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/maliit-inputcontext-gtk/trunk?
[10:20] <darkxst> yes, I am making a list of bugs I would rather not fix, just for that reason!\
[10:20] <xnox> ssshhhh. i have plenty of things for google code it to build ;-)
[10:22] <willcooke> oh, now I need to fix terminal as well
[10:22] <willcooke> so yeah, larsu or seb128 - gonna need some help getting the inspector to work with GNOME terminal. I think I have to *shudder* build from source
[10:23] <Laney> I'm used to those bigger tabs now so will complain when they change back :P
[10:23] <willcooke> :D
[10:23] <darkxst> larsu, are the css nodes in gtk+ going to be a problem for ubuntu themes?
[10:25] <seb128> willcooke, gedit looks fine to me, but can you include the
[10:25] <seb128> GeditStatusbar {
[10:25] <seb128> border-top: 1px solid @borders;
[10:25] <seb128> }
[10:25] <seb128> as well?
[10:25] <seb128> willcooke, unsure why you discarded it, but without that the status bar is not well delimited from the document
[10:25] <seb128> willcooke, I included it in gedit as a workaround until the theme is updated but we shouldn't distro patch gedit for that
[10:25] <willcooke> seb128, I checked on the the old gedit and there is no border.
[10:26] <seb128> current xenial has that patch, see ^
[10:26] <larsu> willcooke: you can do it!
[10:26] <seb128> what do you call "old gedit"?
[10:26] <willcooke> erm, the version running in my W vm
[10:26] <larsu> darkxst: what do you mean by problem? They'll certainly need a lot of adjustment
[10:26] <larsu> just like adwaita
[10:26] <seb128> willcooke, well, it looks better with it :-)
[10:27] <willcooke> seb128, agreed
[10:28] <willcooke> one sec...
[10:29] <seb128> willcooke, there is something weird with the notebooktabs changes
[10:29] <seb128> they make the wm controls being wrong
[10:29] <Sweet5hark> moin
[10:29] <seb128> or quite different from ours themed ones at least
[10:29] <seb128> hey Sweet5hark!
[10:30] <Sweet5hark> seb128: heya.
[10:30] <seb128> the buttons borders as well
[10:32] <willcooke> seb128, sorry, don't understand
[10:33] <seb128> willcooke, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/gedit.png
[10:33] <seb128> is what gedit looks like with the notebooks branch changes
[10:33] <seb128> seems like the wm decoration background color changed
[10:33] <seb128> like the minimize, restore ones were light
[10:34] <seb128> willcooke, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/geditold.png
[10:34] <seb128> easier than words
[10:35] <seb128> I think you tab color change doesn't impact only tabs
[10:35] <seb128> ?
[10:35] <willcooke> hmm. I suspect I copied something from Ambiance to Radiance that I shouldn't have ;)
[10:35] <willcooke> seb128, is it just gedit?
[10:36] <seb128> no
[10:36] <larsu> ah, the joys of css :)
[10:36] <larsu> "I wonder what else this rule *could* be affecting"
[10:37] <willcooke> seb128, just checked on here, and I can see the gedit b0rkedness but others seem ok
[10:37] <seb128> willcooke, you need something use GtkHeaderBar decorations
[10:37] <seb128> try gtk3-demo
[10:38] <seb128> using*
[10:38] <willcooke> hrm, hold on - it's fine on this machine. I had a specific theme selected in the inspector
[10:39] <willcooke> can't reproduce
[10:39] <seb128> I applied the diff from your commit with patch, so maybe something weird with that :-/
[10:40] <willcooke> I'll reset everything to default here and try again
[10:51] <willcooke> seb128, hrm. I deleted all Amb. and Rad. copied over a fresh version from the archive, reapplied my changes, and it all looks ok here
[10:51] <willcooke> :/
[10:51] <willcooke> also, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubuntu-themes/geditspecific/revision/457
[10:51] <willcooke> includes the status bar border and whitespace fixes
[10:52] <seb128> willcooke, you should mp the gedit one
[10:52] <willcooke> seb128, will do
[10:53] <seb128> I'm going to try again the other branch
[10:56] <willcooke> https://code.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubuntu-themes/geditspecific/+merge/278682
[10:58] <seb128> willcooke, +1
[10:58] <willcooke> woo! 10 years later I finally have something in Ubuntu
[10:59] * willcooke goes off to find some champagne
[10:59] <seb128> willcooke, how do you try?
[10:59] <seb128> willcooke, I opened http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubuntu-themes/notebooktabs/view/head:/Radiance/gtk-3.0/gtk-widgets.css
[10:59] <seb128> clicked "download file"
[10:59] <seb128> copied over /usr/share/themes/Radiance/gtk-3.0/gtk-widgets.css
[11:00] <seb128> then "gedit -s"
[11:00] <seb128> (using the corresponding theme of course)
[11:00] <seb128> still get the issue
[11:00] <willcooke> hrm, lemme try that...
[11:02] <seb128> willcooke, oh, and congrats on getting changes landing in Ubuntu ;-)
[11:02] * seb128 lunch, bbiab
[11:02] <willcooke> seb128, aha. I got it now
[11:02] <willcooke> :/
[11:03] <willcooke> but only in a guest session
[11:03] <willcooke> oh no, there we go
[11:06] <willcooke> careless copying on my part
[11:16] <willcooke> seb128, fixed
[11:16] <willcooke> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubuntu-themes/notebooktabs/revision/457
[11:49] <willcooke> trying to build gnome-terminal from source...
[11:49] <willcooke> have installed build-deps
[11:49] <willcooke> have also done ./configure --enable-debug --disable-search-provider
[11:50] <willcooke> but it's saying aclocal.m4 failed with error 127
[11:50] <willcooke> ahh
[11:51] <willcooke> aclocal-1.13 is missing
[11:51] <willcooke> 1.15 is available
[11:51] <willcooke> oops, wrong keyboard
[12:04] <willcooke> oh, I think I fixed it
[12:04] <willcooke> I ran /usr/bin/gnome-autogen.sh
[12:04] <willcooke> and now it makes
[12:06] <darkxst> willcooke, that is obsolete though
[12:06] <darkxst> atleast upstream are trying to move away from using those scripts
[12:07] <darkxst> (i think)
[12:09] <Laney> there's probably an autogen.sh
[12:10] <willcooke> Laney, doesn't seem to be one
[12:10] <Laney> you using git or the package?
[12:11] <willcooke> apt-get source
[12:11] <willcooke> it's built not
[12:11] <willcooke> *now
[12:11] <willcooke> and then I did a sudo make install
[12:11] <willcooke> and things happened
[12:14] <Trevinho> iS there a way to enter in a recovery-mode like for lxc?
[12:16] <davmor2> Trevinho: how do you mean?
[12:16] <Trevinho> davmor2: my lxc container doesn't start anymore due to some journal daemon issues... I guess it was a wrong update..
[12:17] <Trevinho> davmor2: so I wanted to try to fix
[12:17] <Trevinho> davmor2: chrooting there and using apt is safe?
[12:17] <davmor2> Trevinho: ah okay no idea
[12:19] * Laney stabs fontconfig
[12:19] <Laney> what the F
[12:20] <didrocks> Laney: what's up?
[12:21] <Laney> trying to fix/craft a snippet for the ubuntu arabic font
[12:21] <Laney> doesn't seem to work in LO write
[12:21] <Laney> r
[12:21] <Laney> does this even use fontconfig?
[12:21] <Laney> gedit is fine ._.
[12:21] <didrocks> Laney: that's what I was going to say, I'm unsure it's using fontconfig
[12:21] <didrocks> Sweet5hark: ? ^
[12:22] <Laney> oh actually
[12:22] <Laney> hmm
[12:23] <Laney> this is weird
[12:27] <Sweet5hark> yes, LibreOffice uses fontconfig ... somehow. at least we are shipping it even on windoze/osx
[12:28] <Laney> it has wrong spacing I think
[12:28] <Laney> but the right character
[12:28] <Laney> s
[12:29] <willcooke> Yyyyyeeeesssssssss! I've got a terminal with the inspector working
[12:29] <Trevinho> willcooke: :😃
[12:41] <willcooke> Laney, did you see the blurb about Rasp. Pi Zero? There's a "free" one on the front of Mag Pi magazine today./
[12:41] * willcooke is off to the shops now....
[12:41] <Laney> nein
[12:41] <Laney> what is that?
[12:42] <didrocks> Laney: it's all over my rss feed!
[12:42] <Laney> bah, rss feeds
[12:42] <Laney> I've been writing XML!
[12:42] <didrocks> :p
[12:42] <Laney> ok, /me looks at plus
[12:43] <didrocks> as long as there is no xpath/xslt, you're safe :)
[12:43] <didrocks> (but arm11, as the first raspy…)
[12:44] <Laney> mmm
[12:50] <Laney> Sweet5hark: could you help me check this font?
[12:50] <Laney> install https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/8346050 pkg, type some arabic in writer in the "Ubuntu" font
[12:51] <Laney> it should use Ubuntu Arabic via the fontconfig rule and does in gedit
[12:51] <Laney> i.e. if you pick Ubuntu Arabic from the selector explicitly there should be no change
[12:51] <Laney> but there is, the spacing changes (characters look the same to me but maybe I just can't tell)
[12:56] <Sweet5hark> Laney: *urgh* is that a regression? anyway the whole font rendering stuff in vcl is ... "interesting" ...
[12:57] <Laney> I don't know
[12:57] <Laney> just wrote this rule now
[12:57] <Laney> there's a chance I messed it up :(
[12:57] <Laney> but fc-match seems to agree with me
[13:06] <willcooke> meh - they dont' have it
[13:07] <willcooke> I did see a full on Vegas style Elvis doing his shopping though, so not a totally wasted trip
[13:08] <Sweet5hark> Laney: so http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/vcl/generic/fontmanager/fontconfig.cxx has the fontconfig wrapping ...
[13:09] * Laney blind
[13:09] <Sweet5hark> Laney: not sure, if we ever supported what you are trying to do though ...
[13:09] <Laney> basically substituting one font for another which has different spacing
[13:18] <Sweet5hark> Laney: there is also the fontsubst.cxx in the same dir as above. If I get you right though, you want your document to be rendered differently because of changes in your font-config. I dont know how much we do that and if that would even be considered a feature. Rendering document content depending on system config is something most users do not consider, but a bug ...
[13:19] * seb128 head -> desk
[13:19] <seb128> the new nautilus maintainer is weird
csoriano___, btw you should make your editor display spaces/tabs, your commits seem to often alternate between those and it's looking weird/buggy
seb128: I already do, what I'm trying is to slowly replace tabs by spaces, they drove me crazy
so when it's a new line I use spaces, when it's an already line there I use tabs
[13:19] <seb128> I'm not sure how good that approach is
[13:19] <seb128> but really, tabs makes me crazy :)
[13:20] <Laney> Sweet5hark: what happens if I load it on a system with a different set of fonts installed?
[13:20] * seb128 shrugs
[13:20] <Laney> it's shipped as part of the font, not really config
[13:20] <Sweet5hark> (usually those result in bugs filed as "my document renders wrong on $platform", then corrected to s/wrong/different/ ....)
[13:20] <Sweet5hark> k
[13:21] <Laney> just turns out to be in a separate file
[13:21] <Laney> kind of annoying actually
[13:22] <Sweet5hark> Laney: usually ODT documents specify their own font fallback in the document. Also LibreOffice can store font in the document these days.
[13:22] <Laney> bet that bit doesn't know about fontconfig
[13:23] <Laney> thinking about this makes me feel ill
[13:25] <Sweet5hark> ya, I dont think that highlevel stuff knows or cares much above fontconfig.
[13:25] <Laney> like you can type any name into the selector but it turns out to mean something else
[13:26] <Laney> even depending on things like the font size
[13:28] <Sweet5hark> (currently 365 open libreoffice bugs with "font" in the subject: crossplatform font rendering is hard)
[13:33] <Laney> just one bug per day!
[13:37] <Sweet5hark> well, there are also 790 resolved bugs with "font" in subject (198 of those with resolution: fixed).
[13:54] * Laney lunch
[14:11] <desrt> good morning, desktop
[14:11] <didrocks> good morning desrt
[14:12] <desrt> hey didrocks
[14:12] <pitti> hey desrt, good morning
[14:12] <seb128> hey desrt
[14:12] <desrt> pitti: nice to see you around :)
[14:13] <desrt> seb128: good morning to you as well
[14:13] <pitti> desrt: heh, I'm here all the time :)
[14:13] <desrt> what's everyone up to this afternoon?
[14:13] <seb128> desrt, Laney was looking for you ;-)
[14:13] <desrt> pitti: but usually AFK during the good-morning round :)
[14:13] <desrt> seb128: uh oh...
[14:13] <seb128> indeed
[14:13] <seb128> hide!
[14:13] <desrt> what did i break now?
[14:13] <seb128> glib tests on 32 bits arch it seems
[14:14] * desrt makes a face
[14:15] <seb128> https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=glib2.0&arch=armhf&ver=2.47.3-1&stamp=1448490072
[14:17] <desrt> # GLib:ERROR:/«PKGBUILDDIR»/./glib/tests/overflow.c:100:test_checked_guint64_add: assertion failed (cases[i].c == result): (4294967294 == 8589934590)
[14:17] <desrt> tsk tsk tsk
[14:17] <desrt> it's actually my fault, too
[14:17] <desrt> installing a 32bit chroot now to take a look
[14:20] <desrt> pitti: what happened to our gnome CI? :(
[14:20] <desrt> nobody tests i386 anymore, unfortunately
[14:21] <pitti> desrt: that's been gone for years already, it was mostly a prototype back then but there wasn't enough interest upstream to keep it
[14:21] <pitti> I also thought it had pretty much been superseded by Colin Walter's os-tree builds
[14:21] <desrt> apparently not
[14:21] <desrt> if it's not amd64, it's not getting tested :p
[14:23] <desrt> Laney: all kinds of warnings even building that test :(
[14:27] <desrt> Laney: want to just pull the patch from the tip of master?
[14:27] * desrt just pushed it
[14:27] <desrt> extremely silly error
[15:14] <Laney> desrt: indeed, I would have suggested that fix
[15:14] <Laney> thanks!
[15:23] <desrt> fek
[15:23] <desrt> $5 rasp pi
[15:23] <desrt> time to reconsider my cluster!
[15:23] <seb128> charles, hey, could you get an indicator-landing organized? there are 6 "ready to land" branches, some waiting since septembre
[15:26] * desrt considers that the usb ethernet adaptors would probably cost several times more than the rest of the computer
[15:35] <willcooke> desrt, indeed, plus the cheapest SD card I found on ebay was 1.80 GBP
[15:36] <desrt> i think it would be possible to speak ppp over the gpio
[15:36] <willcooke> but still, the time where a computer being given away with breakfast cereal is pretty much with us
[15:36] <willcooke> start a ppp session over the UART
[15:36] <desrt> not sure if that's fast enough to support distcc or not
[15:37] <willcooke> :)
[15:38] <desrt> i guess it's probably also possible to wire in the power via pin headers instead of having to use microusb plugs
[15:39] <desrt> so that means you could get a network attached server running with ~4+ish wires soldered on
[15:41] <desrt> at this point i'd probably replace ppp+distcc with something that received .c source over the serial connection (with checksums) and wrote back the object code when it was done
[15:41] <desrt> free up a bunch of memory for the compiler
[15:41] <desrt> would want to add pipelining so that you could send the source of the next program (and receive the binary of the previous) while building
[15:45] <desrt> ...and would you look at that.. the uart pins on the gpio are immediately adjacent to the power rails
[15:49] <larsu> desrt: hi!
[15:50] * larsu was in hiding hacking on nautknautlius
[15:51] <didrocks> larsu: I prefer "nonotilus" :)
[15:51] <Laney> naughtylus
[15:52] <didrocks> :p
[15:52] <didrocks> not bad
[15:52] <larsu> one of the problems I'm having is that many actions are in a "view" action group that I can't access from dbus :/
[15:53] <larsu> didrocks: meh. shitty connection and ssh+irssi don't mix well :)
[15:53] * larsu is on a train
[15:53] <larsu> desrt: any idea how to quickly export those without copying them all to win.?
[15:54] <desrt> larsu: no good way, sorry.
[15:55] <larsu> ya that's what I figured
[15:55] <larsu> head -> desk
[15:55] <didrocks> larsu: you have a desk on the train?
[15:55] <didrocks> luxury larsu :)
[15:55] <larsu> didrocks: I do :)
[15:56] <larsu> fancy german ice
[15:56] <didrocks> heh
[15:56] <didrocks> just so that you can bang your head against it
[15:56] <larsu> this is what I'm doing right now
[15:56] <larsu> it's ridiculous how much time I spend on a stupid menu
[15:57] <Laney> something for the CV
[15:57] <larsu> ...
[15:57] <Laney> I am one of the world's foremost experts in menu exporting
[15:57] <larsu> ya no shit
[15:57] <didrocks> larsu: do you make home delivery as well? :)
[15:58] <didrocks> I want my menu at home!
[15:58] <larsu> haha
[15:58] <larsu> no sorry
[15:58] <didrocks> :(
[15:58] <didrocks> sad face
[15:58] <larsu> unless you live on the dbus womewhere
[15:58] <larsu> *somewhere
[15:58] <didrocks> I heard it's a busy place…
[15:58] <didrocks> with a lot of menu-related traffic
[15:58] <larsu> haha
[15:59] <larsu> not that much - turns out exporting some of them is really hard
[15:59] <didrocks> and you didn't tackle the java ones (yet)
[16:00] * larsu hides
[16:04] <larsu> almost at the station - see you latwr!
[16:07] <didrocks> see you larsu
[16:59] <didrocks> good night guys!
[16:59] <willcooke> cya didrocks
[16:59] <didrocks> see you willcooke
[17:05] <Trevinho> seb128: I've just pushed this small change: https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/nautilus/export-active-locations/+merge/278730
[17:11] <seb128> Trevinho, thanks, I'm going to have a look when I'm doing updating the patch I'm working on
[17:12] <Trevinho> seb128: it's not changing much, mostly I'm moving the active view as first listed... So at unity level I can know what's selected
[17:12] <seb128> Trevinho, ok
[17:12] <seb128> there are quite some changes in the new nautilus
[17:12] <seb128> I hope it's going to be fine as an user experience
[17:12] <seb128> like they removed the copy dialog
[17:13] <seb128> to make it part of the window
[17:13] <Trevinho> seb128: the thing is that... I might in some way support tabbed windows, and associate a window with multiple launcher icons, but I guess it's not the best thing... Maybe it's just better to focus on the selected tab... While other tabs are ignored
[17:13] <Trevinho> Oh, finally!
[17:13] <seb128> hehe
[17:13] <chrisccoulson> seb128, no one uses file managers though, right?
[17:13] <seb128> I updated the patch so we still get the launchpad progress bar
[17:13] <chrisccoulson> (and hi) :)
[17:13] <seb128> chrisccoulson, hey ;-)
[17:13] <seb128> right, users don't need a fs anyway
[17:13] <Trevinho> That might mean to remove even some workarounds in unity code... (Nothing really about "nautilus" is hardcoded, but it's a condition that only nautilus has)
[17:13] <seb128> datas are owned by apps!
[17:14] <chrisccoulson> heh
[17:14] <Trevinho> seb128: lovely
[17:14] <Trevinho> (the launcher progresss)
[17:22] <seb128> Trevinho, merged your change, I still have a patch to update after the one I'm working on then we need larsu's menu work, then the update should be ready, but you can already build from bzr if you want to test the new version, it works fine, just lack some ubuntu bits
[17:23] <Trevinho> seb128: thanks, I'm writing a copule of other patches as well, to add timestamp support to some actions so that we can remove workarounds that caused some bugs...
[17:39] <willcooke> right, gotta go. Beavers helping tonight
[17:39] <willcooke> l8r
[17:43] <Trevinho> seb128: I've just pushed a new change to that branch, can you still merge it or want a new one (I've protected x11 calls, so that it won't crash in mir)?
[17:43] <seb128> Trevinho, I can uncommit and merge again I guess
[17:43] <Trevinho> nice
[17:44] <seb128> trevinho, let me know when you have pushed your commit
[17:44] <Trevinho> seb128: it's pushed
[17:44] <Trevinho> seb128: nooooo
[17:44] <seb128> trevinho, weird, https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/nautilus/export-active-locations/+merge/278730 doesn't show it
[17:45] <Trevinho> seb128: in the wrong branch :/
[17:45] <Trevinho> seb128: it's now there
[17:47] <seb128> trevinho, still not ... or did you overwrite?
[17:47] <seb128> oh, it is now
[17:48] <Trevinho> :)
[17:48] <seb128> trevinho, ok, merged
[17:48] <Trevinho> cool
[21:03] <xclaesse> attente, are there documentation for the libapparmor API somewhere?
[21:07] <attente> xclaesse: i don't know
[21:08] <xclaesse> attente, any example code?
[21:09] <attente> xclaesse: what are you trying to do?
[21:10] <xclaesse> attente, test your dconf api
[21:11] <xclaesse> attente, first I need to take the "security context"
[21:14] <attente> xclaesse: please don't use my patches, they're superceded by the patchset jjohansen has written: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/apparmor/2015-October/008654.html, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/apparmor/2015-October/008655.html, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/apparmor/2015-October/008656.html, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/apparmor/2015-October/008657.html
[21:17] <xclaesse> attente, wasn't sure if those patches were superseeding yours of if it was aternative implementation that you didn't agree with
[21:22] <attente> xclaesse: those patches are superceding them, but from what i understand, the apparmor developers are too busy this cycle to merge this feature
[21:31] <xclaesse> attente, with that API we can only query permissions on a given path, we cannot query the list of ro/rw paths, rights?
[21:36] <attente> xclaesse: i'm also not sure about that, but looking at the new api, there seems to be a generic blob-getting function aa_query_label_data(), but i'm not sure if it's possible to extract the whole chunk and it seems pretty low level
[21:41] <xclaesse> attente, hm, not sure to understand what aa_label_data_info contains
[21:41] <xclaesse> I'll make tests to see
[21:41] <xclaesse> attente, a more basic question, in those APIs, how do I get the "label" ?
[21:42] <xclaesse> aa_getcon() ?
[21:43] <jjohansen> attente: well, very busy, can't commit to merging them, but if they happen to show up. I did promise I would spend weekend time to get them reviewed
[21:44] <jjohansen> I will work on getting the base apparmor lib patches in,
[21:44] <jjohansen> I've got another set of patches to send out for review that those will go in
[21:46] <attente> jjohansen: ok, thanks for updating us. xclaesse ^ it might be best to wait till the api is more final
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2015-11-26-#xubuntu-devel
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[00:36] <Unit193> ochosi: And a bit on the 23rd. If you're volunteering to poke, be my guest.
[01:55] <bluesabre> knome: the tracker is having some issues, can't select filters
[01:58] <krytarik> bluesabre: No problem here.
[01:59] <bluesabre> krytarik: my isp must be caching pretty hard today
[01:59] <krytarik> \o/
[02:18] <Unit193> ISP and not browser...?
[02:30] <Unit193> Oh dear, bluesabre's drinking and working again.
[02:30] <bluesabre> s/drinking and//
[02:35] <bluesabre> whats up krytarik/Unit193?
[02:35] <bluesabre> I'm about, making noise again :)
[02:36] <Unit193> Yep, saw in -release. Oh, likely the usual. Working on a package that takes forever to compile, only to find out I need to patch it so it doesn't FTBFS. :D
[02:37] <Unit193> Not much Xubuntu stuff recently, it's mostly been docs.
[02:37] <Unit193> Thanks, bluesabre.
[02:37] <bluesabre> np
[02:38] <bluesabre> trying to follow up on things, let me know if there's anything I need to poke about
[02:38] <bluesabre> tomorrow is a holiday in the US only, so its a chance for me to nudge people that I usually do not see
[02:39] <Unit193> (And was sick a nice deal of last week too...) Think it's only those 3 merge proposals still pending from my side, don't think I have anything else on the agenda.
[02:40] <bluesabre> cool
[02:44] <bluesabre> Unit193: can you increment the changelog on https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/livecd-rootfs/xubuntu-core/+merge/267880, looks like that's all thats changed since it was last updated
[02:46] <bluesabre> I'll help get some eyes on these, or maybe we can nudge micahg to add an approve comment
[02:46] <Unit193> Not precisely sure the best way to do that, nor if there's a point if it's a moving target and may get more before we're done. On the other hand I could just drop the changelog. But sure.
[02:47] <bluesabre> good point there
[02:47] <bluesabre> maybe I'll just comment on it
[02:50] <bluesabre> debian-cd no longer merges, never seen this before...
[02:50] <bluesabre> bzr: ERROR: There was an error parsing the changelog: Could not parse changelog: Invalid key-value pair after ';': UNRELEASED
[02:55] <krytarik> bluesabre: If you look at it: "debian-cd (2.2.23) unstable; UNRELEASED". :D
[02:58] <bluesabre> krytarik: wowza, I'm having a case of the stupids tonight
[02:58] <bluesabre> :D
[02:58] <krytarik> lol
[03:05] <bluesabre> even after fixing it, its still being silly... maybe its time for me to go to bed
[03:05] <bluesabre> back in the morning, night all
[03:07] <Unit193> G'night.
[07:20] <flocculant> knome: ta
[12:37] <bluesabre> flocculant: poke
[12:40] <bluesabre> flocculant: er, nvm
[12:40] <bluesabre> :D
[12:42] <flocculant> too late
[12:42] <flocculant> read it now
[12:48] <bluesabre> darn
[12:48] <bluesabre> flocculant: hi
[12:48] <flocculant> hi bluesabre - just popped home - lunchtime :)
[12:48] <bluesabre> nice
[12:49] <flocculant> I saw gmb say bye bye
[12:49] <bluesabre> yup
[12:49] <bluesabre> and then it crashed
[12:49] <bluesabre> and I ignored it
[12:49] <flocculant> ha ha ha
[12:51] <flocculant> you'll notice I've not had time to find any new really off the wall bugs since last one :)
[12:51] <flocculant> I AM trying :p
[12:58] <bluesabre> flocculant: np, I haven't had time to fix bugs in a while ;)
[12:58] <flocculant> that's a good bit of collaborative work right there then :p
[13:26] * bluesabre nods
[20:23] <flocculant> evening
[20:24] <flocculant> hi matt_symes - sneaking in :p
[20:25] <matt_symes> hey flocculant :D good to see you. i'm also mcs_. Just testing something under matt_symes
[20:26] <flocculant> :)
[20:30] <matt_symes> flocculant: i fancy doing some testing this cycle. I have the time and the setup. automatically zsyncing the daily iso to my server each night at 4am and my servers configured as a PXE server so i can just switch the test PC on and boot to the daily to install it. need some direction with what to test though :)
[20:31] <flocculant> matt_symes: awesome
[20:31] <matt_symes> ...maybe a bit earlier in the cycle though ?
[20:32] <flocculant> flocculant: if you've got zsync cron'd you might want to do so at ~10:30 am - rebuild happens at ~10:15
[20:32] <matt_symes> ahh. ty. did not know that.
[20:32] <flocculant> matt_symes: this cycle we're concentrating on packages for the most part
[20:32] <flocculant> I check the image boots daily - but nothing more than that
[20:33] <flocculant> we'll be doing more image tests at milestones (ish)
[20:33] <matt_symes> cool. i install the daily each night then, before i sleep. The setup is pretty automated
[20:34] <matt_symes> /i/i'll
[20:34] <flocculant> matt_symes: do you use xubuntu?
[20:34] <matt_symes> 14.04 on this lappy
[20:34] <matt_symes> this is my most used machine
[20:34] <matt_symes> ...apart from the server
[20:34] <flocculant> mmk
[20:35] <flocculant> kind of depends if you want to use the dev ppa's - they are pretty much safe
[20:35] <flocculant> then you could use those packages
[20:35] <flocculant> we're trying to get people to *use* things and report bugs
[20:36] <flocculant> matt_symes: let me dig up the m/l thread
[20:37] <flocculant> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2015-October/010922.html
[20:37] <matt_symes> alright. I could do that. I'd just have to image this drive every night in case of problems
[20:37] <flocculant> and for a bit of detail http://xubuntu.org/contribute/qa/
[20:37] <flocculant> http://tracker.xubuntu.org/#tab-calendar also has on it what we're *currently* testing
[20:38] * matt_symes puts kettle on for coffee then starts to read when coffee's made
[20:38] <flocculant> :D
[20:39] <flocculant> matt_symes: if you're about Sunday next 18;00 ish we're running a *how to test* session - which will inevitably also discuss what it is we're wanting this cycle
[20:40] <matt_symes> i'll put it in the diary. which channel ?
[20:40] <flocculant> this one :)
[20:40] <matt_symes> is that sunday 29th nov or the first one in december ?
[20:41] <flocculant> matt_symes: https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-testers/ if you join that, I mail that lot directly about things
[20:41] <flocculant> yep 29th November
[20:42] <matt_symes> one moment flocculant. just creating a new browser profile for testing
[20:42] <flocculant> :)
[21:26] <Unit193> Xubuntu docs no longer validate.
[21:41] <knome> i see.
[21:43] <knome> fixed
[21:44] <Unit193> Great!
[21:44] <flocculant> :)
[21:44] <flocculant> evening knome :)
[21:44] <knome> hello
[22:28] <ochosi> bluesabre: thanks for taking care of gmb
[22:29] <ochosi> has anyone heard any news on the package manager topic?
[22:29] <ochosi> (has gnome-software even been packaged yet for ubuntu?)
[22:58] <knome> hello ochosi
[23:21] <Unit193> !info gnome-software xenial;say Last I knew, packagekit wasn't new enough.
[23:21] <Unit193> !info gnome-software xenial
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-fr-l10n
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[13:35] <Nairwolf> Salut,
[13:36] <Nairwolf> j'aurai besoin d'aide pour cette traduction : Translator data could not be acquired, please see https://translations.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs
[13:36] <Nairwolf> Sans contexte, je ne sais pas trop comment traduire Translator data
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.829023
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-nl
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[08:57] <Gerrit> Goedemorgen
[08:58] <Gerrit> ik had een vraagje betref het beeld dedecteren
[08:58] <Gerrit> in ubuntu
[08:58] <Gerrit> ik zie het wel op tv maar dan niet op het beeldscherm van pc
[08:59] <Gerrit> en andersom
[20:51] <maartje> goedeavond allemaal
[20:52] <maartje> ik probeer 2 poorten open te zetten maar ol krijg na het invoeren van mijn ww steeds de melding: Sorry, probeer opnieuw in de terminal
[20:52] <maartje> iemand een oplossing?
[20:52] <Sling> wat probeer je precies?
[20:54] <maartje> ik heb voor de app videostream 2 open poorten nodig, maar het lijkt een beetje roulette te worden, in het begin ging het goed maar nu lukt het dus niet meer
[21:00] <maartje> heb je een idee?
[21:01] <OerHeks> het zou helpen als je vertelde wat voor opdracht je probeert ..
[21:01] <maartje> :D
[21:02] <maartje> sudo /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 5556 -j ACCEPT sudo /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 5558 -j ACCEPT
[21:02] <OerHeks> plaats je wel && tussen de opdrachten? of tenminste een ;
[21:04] <maartje> nee, ik kopieer het van het letterlijk zoals het er staat, dus onder elkaar
[21:04] <lordievader> Klinkt als een client source port, zijn ze static of zijn de dynamisch?
[21:04] <maartje> knippen en plakken :http://paste.ubuntu.com/13519109/
[21:05] <maartje> het ging altijd goed maar nu krijg ik dus Sorry, probeer opnieuw in de terminal
[21:05] <lordievader> Waarvan krijg je die melding?
[21:06] <maartje> als ik die regels plak in de terminal
[21:06] <lordievader> maartje: Wat is de output van 'sudo iptables-save'?
[21:08] <maartje> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13519142/
[21:08] <maartje> wat heb ik gedaan? maw wat is dat voor lijst?
[21:10] <lordievader> maartje: Je regels komen inderdaad niet in de config te staan. Ik zie dat je ufw gebruikt. Is het niet makkelijker voor jou om ufw te gebruiken om de poorten open te zetten?
[21:11] <maartje> uuuuuuhm........?...... ;-)
[21:11] <maartje> ja zeker, maar geen idee waar je het over hebt :-)
[21:11] <lordievader> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[21:12] <maartje> oke, das een beetje hoog gegrepen voor nu
[21:12] <lordievader> UFW word meestal als makkelijker ervaren dan IPtables.
[21:13] <maartje> oke, ik kreeg die opdracht codes van de app zelf
[21:13] <maartje> ufw is dus een progje om je poorten te beheren?
[21:13] <lordievader> UFW is een programma om iptables te beheren.
[21:14] <maartje> dus specifieke poorten open of dicht te zetten?
[21:14] <lordievader> Ja, iptables kan opzich veel meer, maar ufw ondersteund dat, vziw, niet. Je kunt overigens ook gufw gebruiken, een grafische frontend voor ufw.
[21:17] <maartje> zou het dan zo moeten: sudo ufw allow 5556 -j ACCEPT
[21:17] <maartje> of zonder accept
[21:17] <lordievader> Kijkende naar [1], nee. sudo ufw allow <poort> [1] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[21:18] <maartje> ja ik had het al gezien en over heen gelezen, maar moet ik elke poort afzonderlijk toestaan?
[21:19] <lordievader> Ja. In feite werkt het hetzelfde als je eerdere (iptable) regels.
[21:19] <maartje> oke en zijn ze dan permanent open of alleen tot de herstart?
[21:20] <lordievader> Als ik het mij goed herriner slaat ufw het voor jou op. Jouw iptables -A regels waren niet permanent ;)
[21:21] <maartje> nee klopt
[21:21] <maartje> ik ga is ff rommelen
[21:21] <maartje> bedankt weer en de link is opgeslagen in mijn favorieten :-)
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-co
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[14:41] <HarwinSanchez> Hola buenos dias
[19:01] <Ubuntero|83152> buenas tardes, podria alguien guirame en el siguiente tema php mysql y reports
[19:02] <Ubuntero|83152> son nuevo en linux y estoy paraleramente trabajando en una pagina web la cual necesito interactividad con una base de datos
[19:03] <Ubuntero|83152> primero adonde puedo colocar mis pagina o el index.html para que lo pueda ver en el explorador de mozilla
[19:05] <Ubuntero|83152> necesito alguna carpeta especial para poder ver mis desarrollos?
[19:07] <Ubuntero|83152> ya tengo instalados mysql, y php.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.836002
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[01:13] <rick_h_> evening
[01:13] <Scary_Guy> hey
[01:23] <_stink_> yo
[01:29] <cmaloney> yo
[01:30] <Scary_Guy> wow there are actually four of us, might be able to have an actual conversation lol
[01:42] <cmaloney> heh
[01:51] <cmaloney> <3 Microsoft
[01:52] <cmaloney> Apparently my domain is blocked because someone at Linode got it on the blacklist.
[01:52] <cmaloney> so I can't send mail to live.com
[01:52] <Scary_Guy> well that sucks
[01:52] <cmaloney> I swear hotmail, comcast and yahoo are the whiniest idiots when it comes to domain blocking
[01:53] <cmaloney> and yet the LCD when it comes to spamming nonsense.
[16:02] <gamerchick02> happy thanksgiving everyone!
[16:03] <cmaloney> you too!
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.838277
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-pt
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[03:51] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[22:05] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.839013
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2015-11-26-#ubuntu-us-tn
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[04:10] <th0m_> Any advice how to install Windows 10 after Linux Mint 17.1?
[04:11] <th0m_> Says insert proper device at boot
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.840269
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-ir
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[10:29] <mohamadreza> salam
[10:30] <mohamadreza> دوستان من یه مشکلی در اوبونتو 12 دارم اینکه یه سورس کد که رو برنامه نویسی سی نوشته شده که باید تحت لینوکس اجرا شه به یه کامپایلر احتیاج دارم میتونید کمکم کنید؟
[10:31] * mohamadreza slaps ChanServ around a bit with a large fishbot
[10:31] * mohamadreza slaps ashkan around a bit with a large fishbot
[10:31] * mohamadreza slaps Azitrex around a bit with a large fishbot
[10:31] * mohamadreza slaps iraj around a bit with a large fishbot
[10:32] * mohamadreza slaps lubotu3 around a bit with a large fishbot
[10:32] * mohamadreza slaps ubuntulog_ around a bit with a large fishbot
[10:32] * mohamadreza slaps mohamadreza around a bit with a large fishbot
[10:34] <Azitrex> http://wiki.ubuntu.ir/IrcBehavior mohamadreza
[10:35] <mohamadreza> این چیه؟
[10:35] <mohamadreza> what is this?
[10:35] <Azitrex> mohamadreza, baladi tu channel ha join koni ?
[10:35] <mohamadreza> na
[10:35] <mohamadreza> chetor?
[10:36] <mohamadreza> inkaro anjam bedam
[10:36] <Azitrex> in soal ro tu ye channel soal kon ke bishtar be mozo bokhureh
[10:36] <Azitrex> mizani /join #esmeh channel
[10:36] <mohamadreza> man ye moshgeli daram ke hata naghdi ham hazeram hallesh konam mitoni komakam koni?
[10:37] <Azitrex> masalan bezan /join #technotux
[10:38] <mohamadreza> ok vali javabe man ro ham bede migam man hazeram babate rafe moshgelam pool bedam mitoni hallesh koni?
[15:39] <behnam> salam
[15:39] <behnam> kesi nis
[15:39] <behnam> ?
[15:39] <behnam> any body ?!!
[15:39] <behnam> : (
[15:39] <MasterPiece> behnam, salam
[15:41] <behnam> GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDD >_<
[15:41] <MasterPiece> !patience | behnam
[15:42] <behnam> :\
[15:42] <MasterPiece> behnam, What is the matter ?
[15:43] <behnam> may i speak persian ?
[15:43] <MasterPiece> behnam, Sure
[15:43] <behnam> can you speaking french ?
[15:44] <MasterPiece> Oui
[15:44] <MasterPiece> Bien sûr!
[15:44] <behnam> hahaha
[15:44] <behnam> 0k agha man akharin noskhe kali linuxo nasb kardam
[15:44] <MasterPiece> behnam, So, go to #kali
[15:44] <behnam> va bad k a dostam porsidam goftan k behtare k ba ubunto shoro koni
[15:45] <MasterPiece> behnam, kollan mikhay chikar koni? :D
[15:45] <behnam> agha nemizari k :)))
[15:45] <behnam> faranse miri engilisi miri
[15:45] <behnam> :D
[15:46] <behnam> man alan sana kali ro roye systemam nasb daram
[15:46] <MasterPiece> behnam, khodet gofti français doost dari khob :D
[15:46] <behnam> vali baraye inke vaghean tosh expert besham jedi mikham kar konam ama aslan nemidonam a kojash shoro konam
[15:46] <MasterPiece> :)))
[15:46] <behnam> hahahaha are faghat dos daram faransaro vali balad nistam :))
[15:46] <MasterPiece> to chi mikhay expert beshi ?
[15:46] <behnam> midonam soalam kheyli maskharas
[15:46] <behnam> jasham shayad inja nabashe
[15:47] <behnam> teste nofoz va kolan har chizi k marbot b hack va in system amel mishe
[15:47] <MasterPiece> behnam, bia priv8 :D
[15:48] <behnam> tamamesh dastorate terminale va az onjaii k moteasefane kesi nist k chizi azash yad begiram nemdionam chikar bayad konam
[15:48] <behnam> agha damet garm khodet bia inja nemidonam chejori biam pv :D
[15:48] <MasterPiece> :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
[15:49] <behnam> baba hamin alan rad mishodam goftam y sar biam bbinam che khabare >_<
[16:01] * behnam slaps ashkan around a bit with a large fishbot
[16:09] * behnam slaps iraj around a bit with a large fishbot
[19:31] <abb4s> salam
[19:31] <abb4s> kasi hast ??
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-ca
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[01:31] <itsdavidagain> greetings! just learning irq, pastebin etc... found this channel, and badly need some help untangling a mess :D
[01:32] <itsdavidagain> think I forgot to say please :)
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-se
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[13:35] <molgrum> nu gäller en fråga visserligen mint men det är väl i princip ubuntu ändå? när jag körde win 8.1 och stängde locket så låg den i hibernate i 12 timmar innan det blev suspend. nu med mint så ligger den i hibernate hela tiden verkar det som. det har gått 12 timmar :P
[13:36] <molgrum> och så skrev jag ingen fråga, men jag undrar hur man sätter den tidsgränsen?
[14:12] <molgrum> jag menar nog tvärtom, suspend är RAM och hibernate SWAP? den ligger i suspend nu isf
[14:30] <gusnan> andol: Du nämnde en e-postleverantör som verkade vettig till mig ett slag sedan - vilken var det?
[15:07] <Hund> gusnan: Gandi.
[15:10] <gusnan> Hund: Du rekommenderar den?
[15:28] <Hund> Yes.
[15:28] <Hund> Franskt företag som använder sig av öppen källkod.
[15:29] <Hund> Och även stödjer bland annat Debian.
[15:29] <Hund> Dom stödjer projektet Debian.
[15:37] <Amoz> gusnan, Gmail finns ju med ;)
[15:38] <gusnan> Amoz: Hahahaha - nädu, det ligger inte högt på alternativlistan...
[15:40] <Amoz> gusnan, men..men .. de stödjer också öppen källkod!
[15:40] <Amoz> mohaha
[16:18] <Amoz> goopen, pong
[20:20] <Krawlezt> Vad gör ni på era linux desktop datorer?
[20:28] <Amoz> Krawlezt, jobbar
[20:37] <Meerkat> Krawlezt, porr
[21:00] <Krawlezt> Jag har lite kvar o fixa med själva Debian men sen vet jag faktiskt inte vad jag ska göra
[21:14] <Meerkat> Krawlezt, lär dig python?
[21:15] <Amoz> btrfs <3
[22:08] <andol> gusnan: https://www.fastmail.com/
[22:12] <gusnan> andol: grymt! Tackar!
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-ru
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[10:28] <tagezi> утра всем
[12:53] <pr0mode> день добрый, господа
[13:03] <tribals> ку
[13:03] <tribals> как мне установить pip для python 3.4?
[13:04] <tribals> пытался с помощью apt, но тот устанавливает его для 3.5
[13:07] <andrex> наверное собрать с указанием питона который нужен или удалить питон кторый ненужен и поставить аптом pip хотя я не уверен
[14:04] <UNIm95> tribals: Какой дистрибутив?
[14:04] <UNIm95> + у тебя в системе пипон 3.4 стоит?
[14:04] <UNIm95> питон*
[14:04] <tribals> дистр 15.10
[14:05] <tribals> по умолчанию ставится 3.4 и 3.5
[14:05] <tribals> при попытке apt-get install python3-pip он (pip) ставится для 3.5, но не для 3.4
[14:06] <tribals> я удалил 3.5, но python3-pip имеет его в зависимостях
[14:06] <tribals> то есть по сути python3-pip ставит для 3.5
[14:06] <tribals> других пакетов нету, только python3-pip
[14:07] <tribals> например, нет пакета python3.4-pip
[14:07] <mva> tribals: нескромный вопрос: зачем именно тебе нужен конкретно 3.4, но не 3.5?
[14:07] <tagezi> а он вообще для 3.4 существует?
[14:08] <tribals> для порядка, в системе по умолчанию стоит и 3.4, и 3.5, я решил оставить один из них
[14:09] <tribals> попробовал сначала удалить 3.4, но он имеет кучу зависимостей от системных утилит
[14:09] <tribals> по факту его нельзя удалить
[14:09] <tribals> тогда я удалил 3.5
[14:09] <tribals> тот удалился нормально
[14:09] <mva> ну так почему не 3.5? и почему при первых же показаниях ошибочности выбора 3.4 (т.к. для 3.5 то, что тебе нужно, а для 3.4 - нету), ты не перевыбрал 3.5? :)
[14:09] <mva> ах
[14:09] <tribals> вот только теперь не получается поставить pip, так как он зависит от 3.5
[14:10] <tribals> блин, потому что 3.4 удалить нельзя
[14:10] <mva> к слову, а pip тебе точно нужен?
[14:10] <mva> или ты его хочешь для компании?
[14:10] <tribals> нет, блин, я буду пакеты в ручную с гитхаба качать и ставить тоже ручками
[14:10] <tagezi> порядок в линуксе не возможен, ну, если ты не строишь свой дистрибутив с ноля )
[14:11] <tribals> я вас понял
[14:11] <tribals> удачи
[15:58] <beebeep> Здарова
[16:13] <pr0mode> ну вот, парень обиделся
[16:15] <buriedalive> не дождался
[17:06] <pr0mode> это всё tagezi виноват
[17:24] <tagezi> блин, опять я во всём виноват.. чо мне теперь правду вобще нелзя говорить? ))
[18:31] <buriedalive> tagezi ты виноват во всём! :)
[19:20] <Evgeniy223575> Есть кто живой?
[19:39] <buriedalive> ну есть
[19:39] <buriedalive> я точно живой
[19:45] <tagezi> ему уже не нужно )
[19:48] <buriedalive> наверно нашёл решение
[19:49] <buriedalive> и правильно сделал
[19:49] <buriedalive> что стал искать
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-it
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[07:39] <5EXAAGHOI> Ciao a tutti sono bloccato con il notebook Asus x54c con ubuntu residente dopo l'aggiornamento 15.10 si accende chiede per di sistema ma non entre in grub e mi da solo riga di comando poi non accetta piu niente
[09:48] <michele993> buongiorno
[09:48] <michele993> stranamente stamattina andando a fare gli aggiornamenti mi dice richiede l'installazione di pacchetti no nfidati O.o
[09:50] <ExPBoy> michele993, pare tu abbia installato ppa quindi è normale che ti appaia quell'avviso
[09:50] <ExPBoy> !ppa
[09:50] <ubot-it> Un Personal Package Archive (PPA) è in grado di fornire il software alternativo non normalmente disponibile nei repository di Ubuntu offical - Alla ricerca di un PPA? Vedi https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - ATTENZIONE: PPA sono pacchetti di terze parti NON supportati il cui utilizzo è a proprio rischio. Vedi anche !addppa e !ppa-purge
[09:50] <michele993> !ppa-purge
[09:50] <ubot-it> Per disabilitare una PPA dai tuoi sorgenti e ripristinare i pacchetti di default di Ubuntu, installare ppa-purge e utilizzare il comando: sudo ppa-purge ppa: <repository-name> / <subdirectory> - Per ulteriori informazioni, vedere http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html
[10:02] <anto12x> buongiorno, prima di passare ad ubuntu 32 bit vorrei sapere se il programma macbook per gestione server funziona. Grazie.
[10:02] <anto12x> buongiorno
[10:03] <Carlin0> anto12x, e vieni a chiedere qui del mac ?
[10:03] <yepes> buongiorno , ho in uso sul pc la versione ubuntu15.04 al termine dei vari aggiornamenti mi compare il messaggio"il soft. è aggiornato,tuttavia ubuntu 15.10 è ora disponibile è consigliato procedere alla sua installazione opuure va bene cosi'? grazie per le delucidazioni
[10:05] <SapphireSparkle> Buongiorno, è questo il canale di supporto tecnico di Ubuntu?
[10:05] <Carlin0> !avanzamento | yepes
[10:05] <ubot-it> yepes: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/NoteAvanzamento
[10:06] <Carlin0> SapphireSparkle, si
[10:07] <SapphireSparkle> Avrei bisogno di aiuto >.<
[10:07] <anto12x> capisco, ma ho un negozio.un mio amico mi sta pressando per passare a linux e vorrei farlo.se mi potete aiutare ve ne sarei grato.ringrazio cmq.
[10:07] <SapphireSparkle> Ho appena aggiornato Ubuntu, e riavviando, non funziona più la scheda wireless
[10:08] <Carlin0> SapphireSparkle, sei collegato con ubuntu ora ?
[10:08] <SapphireSparkle> Sìsì, in ethernet
[10:08] <SapphireSparkle> Nel computer ho solo Ubuntu installato
[10:08] <Carlin0> SapphireSparkle, sudo apt install pastebinit
[10:10] <SapphireSparkle> Installato
[10:10] <Carlin0> SapphireSparkle, un attimo ..
[10:11] <Carlin0> SapphireSparkle, lspci | grep network | pastebinit
[10:11] <Carlin0> SapphireSparkle, il comando crea un link , postalo qui
[10:11] <SapphireSparkle> "Si sta tentando di inviare un documento vuoto, in chiusura."
[10:12] <Carlin0> addirittura ...
[10:12] <SapphireSparkle> D:
[10:12] <SapphireSparkle> Sto usando un HP 250 G3 (con RT3290), se ti può essere utile...
[10:12] <Carlin0> SapphireSparkle, sudo lshw | pastebinit
[10:13] <SapphireSparkle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13142733/
[10:14] <Carlin0> SapphireSparkle, rfkill list | pastebinit
[10:15] <SapphireSparkle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13142754/
[10:17] <Carlin0> SapphireSparkle, per caso hai un tasto fisico sul pc che abilita/disabilita il wifi ?
[10:18] <SapphireSparkle> Sì, il tasto F12
[10:18] <Carlin0> hai provato con quello immagino ...
[10:18] <SapphireSparkle> Ma risulta attiva la scheda, poiché quando la disattivo, non funziona nulla, quando la attivo, esce scritto nell'applet "dispositivo non pronto"
[10:19] <Carlin0> è strano ... un parte del software la vede pronta e un altra parte dice network DISABLED
[10:20] <Carlin0> SapphireSparkle, che ubuntu è?
[10:20] <SapphireSparkle> 15.10
[10:21] <SapphireSparkle> Fino a poco fa, prima di un aggiornamento di Ubuntu di 93 MB funzionava perfettamente la wireless, dopo l'aggiornamento riavvio e smette di funionare :(
[10:21] <SapphireSparkle> *funzionare
[10:22] <jester-> SapphireSparkle: hai visto quali pacchetti ha aggiornato?
[10:22] <Carlin0> SapphireSparkle, cat /etc/apt/sources.list && ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | pastebinit
[10:23] <SapphireSparkle> Carlin0 http://paste.ubuntu.com/13142785/
[10:23] <SapphireSparkle> jester- Mi pare abbia aggiornato solo il core
[10:24] <Carlin0> SapphireSparkle, hai aggiunto troppe porcherie
[10:25] <SapphireSparkle> Ma nei PPA io li avevo rimossi :|
[10:25] <Carlin0> ne hai una marea
[10:26] <SapphireSparkle> Se vuoi ti faccio lo screen dei PPA
[10:26] <Carlin0> e non è un caso che si sia imputtanato tutto proprio con l'aggiornamento
[10:26] <Carlin0> SapphireSparkle, li ho già visti
[10:27] <SapphireSparkle> In software e aggiornamenti ho solo: partner canonical, TLP, themes, Intel Graphics, Google Earth, Numix
[10:27] <Carlin0> SapphireSparkle, hai tutti questi http://paste.ubuntu.com/13142785/
[10:28] <jester-> ne hai solo 36 di ppa
[10:28] <ExPBoy> lol
[10:28] <Carlin0> lol
[10:28] <ExPBoy> figurati se non si inchioda
[10:29] <Carlin0> eh
[10:29] <SapphireSparkle> Chiedo scusa se non sono un veterano di Linux, eh!
[10:29] <ExPBoy> ?
[10:29] <Carlin0> anzi già tanto che va ancora
[10:29] <ExPBoy> SapphireSparkle, non è questo il problema
[10:29] <jester-> si ma i ppa siete una scheggia a metterli
[10:29] <Carlin0> SapphireSparkle, no problem , l'esperienza insegna , ora lo sai
[10:30] <ExPBoy> appunto se uni non ha esperienza meglio che vada piano
[10:30] <jester-> SapphireSparkle: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[10:30] <SapphireSparkle> Lo invio in pastebin
[10:30] <jester-> SapphireSparkle: iwconfig | patebinit
[10:31] <SapphireSparkle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13142829/
[10:32] <jester-> che cazzo di interfaccia
[10:34] <jester-> SapphireSparkle: rfkill list
[10:34] <SapphireSparkle> Mi pare di vedere in giro che la rt3290 non vada tanto d'accordo con Linux.
[10:35] <SapphireSparkle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13142852/
[10:35] <jester-> non è normale interfaccia wlp2s0f0
[10:36] <jester-> SapphireSparkle: cat /etc/network/interfaces
[10:36] <jester-> SapphireSparkle: cat /etc/networking/interfaces
[10:36] <SapphireSparkle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13142862/
[10:37] <jester-> SapphireSparkle: apparentemente è tutto a posto, non c'è la wifi nella icona rete?
[10:38] <SapphireSparkle> Nell'applet esce scritto "dispositivo non pronto"
[10:39] <jester-> riavvia con il penultimo kernel
[10:40] <jester-> dentro a opzion iavanzatre
[10:41] <SapphireSparkle> Chiedo venia, ma quali opzioni avanzate?
[10:46] <SapphireSparkle> Ho capito alla fine, provo a riavviare
[12:01] <parmariu> Ciao a tutti qualcuno può aiutarmi?
[12:02] <ExPBoy> !aiuto | parmariu
[12:02] <ubot-it> parmariu: per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-)
[12:05] <parmariu> Allora quando accendo il computer con residente ubuntu mi chiede la pw e poi mi da riga di comando ma non entrò in nessuna parte di ubuntu un
[12:07] <Carlin0> !ripristino | parmariu
[12:07] <ubot-it> parmariu: Per ripristinare un sistema danneggiato: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/RipristinoInstallazione
[12:08] <parmariu> Voglio dire che sto scrivendo da telefonino perche il notebook non va
[12:09] <jester-> !ripristino | parmariu
[12:09] <ubot-it> parmariu: Per ripristinare un sistema danneggiato: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/RipristinoInstallazione
[12:10] <parmariu> Non posso ripristinare se non va
[12:10] <jester-> parmariu: leggi la guida
[12:10] <Carlin0> parmariu, ma ti sei degnato almeno di leggere ?
[12:10] <parmariu> OK OK
[12:11] <jester-> Carlin0: sei mattooo? rovina le vista peggio che le seghe
[12:11] <Carlin0> :o)
[12:16] <parmariu> Ora ho letto ma ho ubuntu da sempre e residente non entrò nel BIOS
[12:16] <ExPBoy> ?
[12:16] <parmariu> Scusa ma non capisco neppure io
[12:17] <ExPBoy> si infatti che vuol dire quello che hai appena scritto?
[12:17] <jester-> parmariu: come cazzo hai installato
[12:18] <jester-> avrai avviato il dvd o la usb, o no
[12:18] <jester-> o trolli maluccio
[12:19] <ExPBoy> eh
[12:19] <parmariu> Non riesco ad essere chiaro ma il computer Asus non va io ubuntu l'ho dall'acquisto
[12:19] <Carlin0> e allora ?
[12:20] <ExPBoy> parmariu, riportalo da chi te l'ha venduto
[12:21] <parmariu> Dico che sono 5 AA che c'è l'ho
[12:22] <ExPBoy> AA?
[12:22] <ExPBoy> bho
[12:22] <Carlin0> parmariu, 5 ampere ?
[12:23] <parmariu> Non si può fare proprio niente? Da telefonino mi scrive così sono anni
[12:24] <Carlin0> parmariu, si può fare quello che già ti abbiamo indicato , in alternativa anche una installazione nuova
[12:25] <parmariu> Mi rendo conto che è un problema
[12:25] <Carlin0> no ... basta applicarsi un po e seguire le guide
[12:26] <Carlin0> anzi parmariu direi che se hai ubuntu da 5 anni e hai sempre aggiornato una nuova installazione sia la cosa migliore
[12:26] <jester-> parmariu: tutti i portatili hanno una partizione di ripristino, devo solo consultare il manuale del pc per sapere quale tasto Fx pigiare al boot
[12:26] <parmariu> Io vedo che il sistema operativo c'è ancora
[12:27] <jester-> e come fai a vedere se non si avvia
[12:27] <Carlin0> parmariu, anche io vedo sotto casa parcheggiata una fiat 850 coupè , ma non vuol dire che vada in moto
[12:27] <jester-> parmariu: in piu se il pc ha 5 AA hai una distro scaduta e non piu aggiornabile
[12:27] <parmariu> Mi da riga di comando sotto ubuntu 15.10
[12:28] <jester-> parmariu: pc di 5 AA come fai ad avere la 15,10
[12:29] <parmariu> L'ho aggiornato e me l'ha fatto
[12:29] <Carlin0> parmariu, io quello che dovevo dirti l'ho fatto ora sta a te
[12:30] <parmariu> Grazie comunque
[12:30] <Carlin0> !installazione | parmariu
[12:30] <ubot-it> parmariu: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[12:31] <parmariu> !installazione
[12:31] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[15:13] <pippo> ciao ragazzi
[15:13] <pippo> accendendo il pc si è verificato un problema
[15:14] <pippo> quando vado per inserire la passw mi esce una schermata nera
[15:14] <pippo> e nuovamebte la schermata dove inserire la passw
[15:17] <pippino> ciao ragazzi accendendo il pc si è verificato un problema quando vado per inserire la passw mi esce una schermata nera e nuovamebte la schermata dove inserire la passw https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/MSqWJC05RWuOKZR1DsE8
[15:18] <pippino> chi mi può aiutare?
[15:37] <Carlin0> pippo, ma quanti erano sti dati ? c'era il posto per tutto?
[15:37] <pippo> eccomi
[15:38] <pippo> non lo so
[15:38] <Carlin0> cosa non sai ...
[15:38] <pippo> se i dati erano troppi o pochi
[15:39] <pippo> grub cosa è
[15:39] <akis24> pippo: se non ci dai dettagli restiamo qui fino a notte eh grub = la schermata di avvio dove selezioni il sistema da avviare
[15:39] <Carlin0> pippo, il menù da cui si sceglie che os avviare
[15:40] <pippo> ora provo grazie
[15:42] <pippo> ragazzi non mi da la possibilita di scegliere
[15:42] <Carlin0> pippo, hai solo ubuntu ?
[15:42] <pippo> ricordo che nel vecchio ubuntu 14 mi appariva grub
[15:42] <pippo> si ho solo ubuntu
[15:43] <Carlin0> all'avvio premi ripetutamente shift
[15:43] <Carlin0> e vedrai che ti appare il menù
[15:43] <pippo> ok riprovo
[15:45] <pippo> Ci sono riuscito ora che faccio? Ripristina l avvio normale ? Sto scrivendo da smartphone
[15:46] <Carlin0> prova
[15:46] <pippo> Stesso problema
[15:47] <Carlin0> pippo, allora rifai e scegli la shell di root
[15:48] <pippo> Fatto
[15:49] <Carlin0> pippo proviamo a creare un altro utente , come lo vuoi chiamare ?
[15:50] <Carlin0> mettiamo ad esempio pippo2
[15:50] <Carlin0> dai sti 2 comandi
[15:50] <Carlin0> adduser pippo2
[15:50] <Carlin0> adduser pippo2 sudo
[15:51] <pippo> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/8j64O2sWSYSALi0AbbDf
[15:51] <Carlin0> pippo, dai i 2 comandi e alla fine dai reboot per riavviare
[15:53] <pippo> Mi dice pippo2 nn trovato
[15:53] <Carlin0> adduser pippo2
[15:53] <Carlin0> adduser pippo2 sudo
[15:53] <Carlin0> in sequenza su
[15:55] <pippo> Lo so lo fatto prima mi dice aggiunta dell utente del nuovo gruppo poi però al secondo do comando adduser pippo2 sudo comando non trovato
[15:56] <pippo> Dice inoltre l utente pippo2 nn esiste
[15:56] <Carlin0> pippo, ls /home/
[15:57] <pippo> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/UfyI4MubSUuwEmOZrugK
[15:59] <pippo> Mi dice che la directory nn esiste con l ultimo comando home
[16:00] <Carlin0> non esiste /home/ ? fai vedere
[16:03] <pippo> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/dLpp260uSvroKBTFM88z
[16:03] <Carlin0> metti lo spazio tra ls e /home/
[16:04] <cristian_c> lol
[16:04] <pippo> ok mi ha dato jonny colorato di blu
[16:05] <pippo> Ora come procedo ?
[16:05] <Carlin0> prova a dare → dpkg-reconfigure -a
[16:05] <Carlin0> occhio alla sintassi se no stiamo qui fino a domani
[16:08] <pippo> Fatto
[16:08] <Carlin0> ha dato errori ?
[16:09] <pippo> No mi escono delle opzioni
[16:09] <Carlin0> pippo, dpkg --configure -a
[16:11] <pippo> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/lmqOXl9aToSQZiAOresH
[16:11] <Carlin0> aridaje [17:09:56] <Carlin0> pippo, dpkg --configure -a
[16:12] <pippo> Scusa ma da smartphone ci mette tanto a carica re le foto e stiamo due passi avanti qnd arriva la foto
[16:13] <Carlin0> pippo, lascia stare lo smathone e pensa a dare i comandi giusti
[16:15] <pippo> Scusa ma fa uguale
[16:15] <Carlin0> vuol dire che continui a darlo errato
[16:17] <Fieduardo> Ciao ragazzi, una domanda semplice (credo) posso installare il software da hd esterno?
[16:17] <Carlin0> Fieduardo, che software ?
[16:17] <krabador> Fieduardo, dipende da cosa stiamo parlando
[16:17] <Fieduardo> ubuntu
[16:18] <Fieduardo> 15.10
[16:18] <Carlin0> il sistema operativo ?
[16:18] <Fieduardo> si
[16:18] <krabador> Fieduardo, vuoi installare il sistema nell'hd, oppure usare l'hd come supporto di installazione?
[16:18] <Fieduardo> ; la seconda
[16:18] <krabador> si
[16:18] <Fieduardo> ;)
[16:19] <Fieduardo> ok
[16:19] <Carlin0> si ma ti complichi la vita abestia
[16:19] <Fieduardo> me se il file è iso, come faccio a scompattarlo nell'hd esterno
[16:19] <krabador> al posto che usare una pendrive, usi l'hd
[16:19] <krabador> non devi scompattarlo
[16:19] <pippo> Carlin0 quando lo scrivo errato mi dice comando nn trovato invece qnd lo scrivo giusto mi chiede se voglio creare una pipe con Less o more
[16:19] <krabador> !usbwin | Fieduardo
[16:19] <ubot-it> Fieduardo: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[16:19] <krabador> al posto della pendrive, selezioni l'hd
[16:19] <krabador> e selezioni l'hd al boot, una volta fatta la procedura
[16:20] <Carlin0> pippo, fai vedere , e tieni conto che tra un po devo andarmene
[16:20] <Fieduardo> il problema è che nmon posso selezionare l'hd come boot
[16:20] <Fieduardo> quindi devo scriverlo sull'hd e lanciralo da li
[16:20] <Fieduardo> si puoò?
[16:21] <Carlin0> Fieduardo, il pc supporta il boot da usb ?
[16:21] <Fieduardo> no
[16:21] <Fieduardo> purtroppo
[16:21] <Carlin0> e allora non puoi
[16:21] <Fieduardo> devo scrivelo x forza su dvd
[16:21] <Fieduardo> ?
[16:21] <Carlin0> si
[16:21] <Fieduardo> ok
[16:21] <krabador> Fieduardo, di che pc stai parlando?
[16:21] <krabador> se troppo vecchio, lascia stare direttamente ubuntu
[16:22] <Fieduardo> che vuol dire Krabador?
[16:22] <Fieduardo> lascia stare direttamente ubuntu?
[16:22] <krabador> che potresti rispondere alla domanda
[16:22] <krabador> elencando componenti del pc
[16:22] <pippo> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/dNG3vLT2RuWRS4twq7jA
[16:22] <Carlin0> Fieduardo, ci sono dei requisiti minimi richiesti
[16:23] <Fieduardo> non sono in grado di dirti che tipo di pc è
[16:23] <Fieduardo> so solo che ha almeno un paio di anni
[16:23] <Fieduardo> me lo hanno regalato
[16:23] <Carlin0> pippo, continui a sbagliare comando
[16:23] <Fieduardo> è un assemblato
[16:23] <krabador> Fieduardo, vuoi occuparti di un pc, e non sei in grado di dire che roba sia...
[16:23] <Fieduardo> è grave
[16:23] <Fieduardo> proprio perchè è vecchio volevo smanettarci un pò sopra
[16:23] <Carlin0> Fieduardo, se non supporta boot da sub ne ha 10 direi
[16:24] <krabador> esatto
[16:24] <krabador> il mancato boot da usb è un indice molto chiaro
[16:24] <Fieduardo> no no
[16:24] <Fieduardo> 2 anni
[16:24] <krabador> ma , potresti cercare di scoprire
[16:24] <Fieduardo> non di +
[16:24] <Fieduardo> forse era vecchio già
[16:24] <Carlin0> Fieduardo, prova lubuntu che è + leggero
[16:24] <krabador> Fieduardo, non c'è da disquisire
[16:24] <pippo> Grazie mille carlino proverò di nuovo più tardi
[16:24] <krabador> Fieduardo, scopri che cosa hai
[16:25] <krabador> ed in base a quello si possono delineare soluzioni
[16:25] <pippo> Forse è il nervosismo che mi fa sbagliare un grazie mille di cuore
[16:25] <Fieduardo> e come faccio a scoprirlo?
[16:25] <krabador> pippo, tasto dopo tasto, con calma, copi i comandi, e mandi invio
[16:25] <krabador> pippo, cristian_c fa un servizio a domicilio, per i comandi giusti
[16:26] <Carlin0> krabador, pippo è da recovery
[16:26] <krabador> Carlin0, infatti, li copia , e li digita, tasto dopo tasto
[16:26] <krabador> con calma
[16:26] <krabador> Fieduardo, che sistema monta attualmente?
[16:26] <Fieduardo> 7 ultimate
[16:26] <Carlin0> Fieduardo, scarica lubuntu lo masterizzi e lo avvii poi vieni qui che scopriamo cosa hai per le mani
[16:26] * cristian_c spingitore di tasti
[16:27] <krabador> Fieduardo, gestione periferiche, ti dice tutto
[16:27] <Fieduardo> lubuntu?
[16:27] <krabador> o fai come dice Carlin0 , se hai voglia tempo e un dvd da mandare in boot
[16:27] <krabador> Fieduardo, se ci dicessi cosa hai , non ti si indicherebbe lubuntu
[16:27] <krabador> per forza
[16:27] <Carlin0> a bhe io non conosco win
[16:28] <Carlin0> quindi my way
[16:28] <krabador> in mancanza d'altro , e la tua segnalazione che non fa il boot da usb, si puo' pensare solo che abbia 10 o piu' anni
[16:28] <krabador> il pc, motivazione per cui, lubuntu.
[16:29] <Fieduardo> il pc ha 2 anni, probabilmente è equipaggiato con hardware un pò vecchio
[16:29] <Fieduardo> comuqnue provo on lubuntu
[16:29] <Fieduardo> che trovo dove?
[16:29] <Carlin0> !derivate
[16:29] <ubot-it> http://www.ubuntu-it.org/derivate | Download derivate: http://www.ubuntu-it.org/download/derivate
[16:29] <krabador> Fieduardo, è inutile che ti accanisci con "ha 2 anni"
[16:30] <krabador> Fieduardo, quello che conta è com'è fatto
[16:30] <akis24> Fieduardo: Clicca con il tasto sinistro del mouse sul pulsante Start Clicca con il tasto sinistro su Pannello di Controllo, Sistema e manutenzione Clicca con il tasto sinistro su Sistema Visualizza quantita' ram e velocita' processore .. e leggi tutto cpu e ram
[16:30] <Fieduardo> ok, ha 10 anni
[16:33] <Fieduardo> processore AMD Sempron 145 2.80Ghz
[16:33] <Fieduardo> RAM 4.0 GB
[16:34] <Fieduardo> 3.00 utilizzabile
[16:34] <akis24> ohh bene
[16:34] <Fieduardo> sistema operativo 32 bit
[16:34] <krabador> Fieduardo, se guardi bene nel bios, il pc supporta boot da usb
[16:34] <krabador> a meno che non è una scheda madre giochipreziosi
[16:35] <Fieduardo> esatto, è proprio quella perchè non lo supporta
[16:35] <Fieduardo> quindi?
[16:36] <krabador> quindi?
[16:36] <Fieduardo> sul processore c'è la faccia di Cicciobello quindi è certamente giochi preziosi
[16:36] <krabador> !chat | Fieduardo
[16:37] <ubot-it> Fieduardo: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[16:37] <Fieduardo> eh... non supporta l'usb, come ti ho detto
[16:38] <krabador> Fieduardo, va nella sezione boot, guarda bene le opzioni, ed elencale qui
[16:38] <Fieduardo> x farlo devo riavviare il pc
[16:38] <Fieduardo> e quindi siconnettermi
[16:38] <Fieduardo> te lo assicuro
[16:38] <Fieduardo> non supporta usb
[16:38] <krabador> il canale non scompare in tua assenza
[17:22] <albertone69> sera a tutti
[17:23] <albertone69> avrei bisogno un consiglio su un dv 9000 quale linux per avere tutti i driver perfettamente funzionanti
[17:24] <cristian_c> albertone69: questo è il canale di supporto a ubuntu
[17:24] <cristian_c> secondo te di quale distro parliamo?
[17:25] <albertone69> era ubuntu
[17:25] <cristian_c> 'era'?
[17:25] <albertone69> vado nella chat
[17:51] <Andreas71> Buonasera a tutti
[17:51] <Andreas71> secondo giorno di ubuntu :)
[17:52] <krabador> è esploso qualcosa?
[17:52] <Andreas71> l'ho installato su un asus 1001px con 2 gb ram, intel atom n455
[17:52] <Andreas71> ciao kabrador
[17:52] <Andreas71> ancora no :)
[17:52] <krabador> bene
[17:53] <Andreas71> per questa macchina meglio ubuntu normale o xubuntu?
[17:53] <Andreas71> o windows 7 starter? :P
[17:55] <krabador> Andreas71, lubuntu
[17:55] <Andreas71> più leggero?
[17:56] <krabador> indicato per hardware datato e netbook
[17:56] <Andreas71> naturalmente devo riformattare tutto.....
[17:57] <krabador> reinstallare, se non l'hai usato piu' di tanto, non hai molto da perdere
[17:57] <Andreas71> differenze considerevoli di prestazioni?
[17:57] <krabador> si
[17:57] <Andreas71> magari non avrò più nemmeno il problema audio :P
[17:57] <krabador> Andreas71, fa il supporto di installazione
[17:58] <krabador> Andreas71, fa domande specifiche per favore
[17:58] <Andreas71> si scusami
[17:58] <Andreas71> funzionano le casse/cuffie se attacco il jack ma non gli speaker del netbook
[17:58] <krabador> Andreas71, fai il supporto di installazione , mandi in sessione di prova, e giudica tu stesso come va
[17:58] <krabador> stessa cosa per xubuntu
[17:59] <krabador> Andreas71, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:59] <krabador> aplay -l | pastebinit
[17:59] <Andreas71> dovrei chiedere cosa è il supporto di installazione ma temo di fare una figuraccia
[18:00] <krabador> Andreas71, cat /proc/asound/card*/id | pastebinit
[18:00] <Andreas71> ok, vado col terminale
[18:00] <krabador> Andreas71, ovvio, specialmente se hai già effettuato un'installazione
[18:01] <Andreas71> ok :)
[18:01] <Andreas71> lancio i comandi descritti
[18:02] <krabador> gli ultimi 2 restituiranno un link, incollalo qui
[18:02] <krabador> lsb_release -a | pastebinit
[18:02] <Andreas71> Lettura elenco dei pacchetti... Errore
[18:02] <Andreas71> E: Si è verificato un problema nel rinominare il file /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin.mZSCcA in /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin - rename (2: File o directory non esistente)
[18:02] <Andreas71> W: È consigliato eseguire "apt-get update" per correggere questi problemi
[18:02] <Andreas71> dopo il primo comando
[18:03] <krabador> Andreas71, iniziamo bene
[18:03] <Andreas71> :(
[18:03] <krabador> Andreas71, sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[18:03] <Andreas71> eseguo :)
[18:05] <Andreas71> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13152941/
[18:05] <Andreas71> vado?
[18:05] <krabador> aplay -l | pastebinit
[18:05] <krabador> cat /proc/asound/card*/id | pastebinit
[18:06] <Andreas71> non vado dunque sul link'
[18:06] <Andreas71> ?
[18:06] <krabador> non perdere tempo
[18:06] <Andreas71> deduco sia un no
[18:07] <Andreas71> altro link
[18:07] <Andreas71> altro link
[18:07] <Andreas71> ora?
[18:08] <Andreas71> 3 comandi - 3 links diversi
[18:10] <krabador> ok Andreas71 , torna quando hai voglia di essere serio.
[18:10] <Andreas71> sono serio, non sono solo esperto
[18:10] <Andreas71> devo cliccare sui lonks?
[18:11] <krabador> Andreas71, li devi incollare qui
[18:11] <Andreas71> già fatto
[18:11] <krabador> ni
[18:11] <krabador> no
[18:11] <krabador> se insisti di averlo fatto, accomodati pure fuori
[18:12] <Andreas71> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13152941/
[18:12] <Andreas71> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13153036/
[18:12] <Andreas71> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13153049/
[18:13] <Andreas71> ora?
[18:14] <slot> vorrei installare xubuntu su asus x 205 ta,anche eliminando windows 8.1 ....
[18:15] <krabador> slot, fa il supporto di installazione, dopo aver scaricato la iso di xubuntu, fa partire l'installazione ,e quando ti chiede dove installare, selezioni l'opzione per usare tutto il disco
[18:15] <krabador> Andreas71, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1448362
[18:15] <krabador> sembra ancora in corso
[18:16] <Andreas71> grazie krabador
[18:17] <Andreas71> krabador, perdonami
[18:17] <krabador> Andreas71, scarica iso di lubuntu 14.04, fa supporto di installazione, manda sessione di prova, vedi se ti da il problema
[18:17] <Andreas71> ho aperto la pagina
[18:17] <slot> da quanto letto pare che non faccia partire l'istallazione...
[18:17] <krabador> Andreas71, quel link , è il link della segnalazone del bug
[18:17] <krabador> slot, che cpu hai?
[18:18] <cristian_c> slot: quel pc ha un bios a 32 bit
[18:18] <cristian_c> visto che monta windows a 32 bit
[18:18] <Andreas71> krabador, ok. ma per risolvere?
[18:18] <krabador> Andreas71, puoi vedere "confirmed" , nello status del bug
[18:19] <krabador> non è stato risolto
[18:19] <Andreas71> capisco
[18:19] <krabador> Andreas71, quella scheda ha dato noie in diverse versioni del kernel, come ti ho detto, prova 14.04
[18:20] <Andreas71> con i prossimi aggiornamenti credi si potrà risolvere?
[18:20] <krabador> possibile
[18:20] <Andreas71> ultima cosa e ti ringrazio
[18:21] <Andreas71> il messaggio dell'errore nei pacchetti rientra nel discorso del bug?
[18:21] <krabador> no
[18:21] <slot> esatto,l'ho preso senza controllare prima secondo voi è fattibile?
[18:21] <krabador> slot, disabilita tutte le opzioni uefi
[18:21] <krabador> secure boot, e fastboot
[18:21] <krabador> slot, ma , per favore, che cpu hai?
[18:22] <Andreas71> e da cosa secondo te?
[18:22] <slot> atom Z3735F
[18:22] <krabador> Andreas71, è stato risolto con sudo apt-get update
[18:22] <slot> 1,33
[18:23] <Andreas71> krabador, grazie per la pazienza
[18:24] <krabador> di niente, per qualsiasi cosa di ubuntu, siamo qui ù
[18:24] <slot> deve arrivare la prossima settimana,se non mi fà installare linux lo rimando indietro...
[18:24] <Andreas71> verrò a rompervi di nuovo presto ;)
[18:27] <krabador> slot, prendi un pc con una cpu vera, non un atom , di fascia quindi leggermente piu' alta
[18:27] <krabador> se non ce l'hai davanti, non si possono neanche fare prove
[18:28] <slot> ok ,rientro quando arriva,grazie per ora,saluti
[18:29] <krabador> se prendi altro è meglio
[18:30] <slot> preso per viaggiare e per il peso,ho altri due per casa,naturalmente con xubuntu
[18:32] <krabador> phttps://github.com/lopaka/instructions/blob/master/ubuntu-14.10-install-asus-x205ta.md
[18:32] <krabador> da uno sguardo qui , sebbene non sembrano comunque pochi i problemi
[18:32] <cristian_c> slot: prendi una cpu 'da portatile'
[18:32] <cristian_c> non i bay trail
[18:33] <cristian_c> slot: altrimenti l'esperienza linux potrebbe rivelarsi una tortura
[18:33] <slot> ricevuto,grazie
[20:25] <vincenzovitale22> Salve, avrei un problema con Ubuntu 14.04.03 LTS
[20:25] <krabador> !chiedi | vincenzovitale22
[20:25] <ubot-it> vincenzovitale22: per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-)
[20:26] <vincenzovitale22> Dopo aver installato Ubuntu 14.04.03 LTS sul mio pc in Dual Boot con W10, quando vado a loggarmi mi va in loop
[20:27] <cristian_c> vincenzovitale22: nel senso, che dopo la digitazione della password, appare nuovamente la richiesta?
[20:28] <vincenzovitale22> Certo, appare di nuovo (sempre dopo una schermata nera) la schermata di login
[20:28] <ioria> vincenzovitale22, ls -al ~/.Xauthority ?
[20:28] <krabador> vincenzovitale22, ha mai funzionato?
[20:28] <vincenzovitale22> Non ha mai funzionato e con ls -al ~/.Xauthority non riesco a trovarlo
[20:29] <krabador> vincenzovitale22, nel punto in cui si blocca, digita ctrl alt f1
[20:30] <vincenzovitale22> si mi va in modalità command
[20:30] <krabador> vincenzovitale22, il pc è connesso?
[20:30] <vincenzovitale22> ma ho provato di tutto, anche a reinstallare l'ambiente unity
[20:30] <krabador> il pc è connesso?
[20:30] <vincenzovitale22> si, ma ora lo sto usando su Windows per parlare con voi
[20:30] <vincenzovitale22> la chat IRC funziona su Android?
[20:31] <krabador> vincenzovitale22, si
[20:31] <cristian_c> sì
[20:31] <vincenzovitale22> serve qualche app per avviarla o basta che vado dal sito?
[20:32] <krabador> vincenzovitale22, se installi un client irc, è meglio, ma , in base allo smartphone a tua disposizione, potrebbe funzionare anche il sito
[20:33] <vincenzovitale22> gli estremi della chat?
[20:34] <krabador> server irc.freenode.net
[20:34] <krabador> #ubuntu-it
[20:40] <HoloIRCUser> Ci sono
[20:41] <HoloIRCUser> Avvio il sistema
[20:41] <krabador> HoloIRCUser, allora, ctrl alt f1
[20:42] <HoloIRCUser> Un attimo, lo sto riavviando per passare ad ubuntu
[20:42] <HoloIRCUser> Fatto, sono in ctrl alt f1
[20:43] <krabador> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:43] <krabador> sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[20:44] <HoloIRCUser> fatto
[20:45] <HoloIRCUser> Che devo fare ora?
[20:45] <krabador> HoloIRCUser, per favore
[20:45] <krabador> riporta qui il link
[20:45] <Guest67860> .
[20:46] <cristian_c> HoloIRCUser: posta pure il link risultante
[20:46] <krabador> !ciao | Guest58011
[20:46] <ubot-it> Guest58011: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[20:46] <HoloIRCUser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13160578
[20:48] <krabador> HoloIRCUser, hai dato update, o upgrade ?
[20:48] <HoloIRCUser> Nelle sessioni precedenti?
[20:49] <krabador> HoloIRCUser, sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[20:49] <HoloIRCUser> Install
[20:50] <krabador> HoloIRCUser, ti ho segnalato <krabador> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[20:50] <HoloIRCUser> Scusa, ho sbagliato a scrivere
[20:50] <krabador> dopo l'install di mandare sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[20:51] <HoloIRCUser> Fatto, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13161012
[20:51] <krabador> HoloIRCUser, ok sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade | pastebinit
[20:54] <HoloIRCUser> Sta procedendo
[20:57] <HoloIRCUser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13161350
[20:59] <HoloIRCUser> Fatto
[21:02] <HoloIRCUser> Kabrador?
[21:07] <HoloIRCUser> C'è qualcuno?
[21:09] <HoloIRCUser3> Scusate, problemi di linea
[21:14] <HoloIRCUser3> C'è qualcuno?
[21:21] <vincenzovitale> Qualcuno mi può rispondere?
[21:23] <krabador> vincenzovitale, ha aggiornato il kernel, riavvia ubuntu
[21:24] <vincenzovitale> Fatto
[21:24] <vincenzovitale> Devo loggarmi?
[21:24] <krabador> non è cambiato nulla?
[21:24] <vincenzovitale> Nulla
[21:27] <vincenzovitale> Cosa devo fare?
[21:28] <krabador> beh, devi vedere se va
[21:30] <vincenzovitale> Non va. Ho fatto il comando ls -al per Xauthority e mi è uscito questo http://paste.ubuntu.com/13162763
[21:30] <krabador> vincenzovitale, prova a creare un nuovo utente
[21:31] <vincenzovitale> Come?
[21:32] <krabador> vincenzovitale, http://askubuntu.com/a/607333
[21:32] <krabador> cosi'
[21:33] <vincenzovitale> Stesso errore
[21:35] <vincenzovitale> Nulla
[22:49] <radu21> hi guys
[22:50] <radu21> i need a help
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| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-es
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[00:31] <k_Tux> hola buenas noches, una consulta de Plasma 5, en openSUSE al cambiar el esquema de color también se cambia de color el tema de escritorio del mismo color, esto no lo vi en ninguna otra distro que no sea openSUSE
[00:32] <k_Tux> alguien sabe como es que funciona como para poder hacerlo en cualquier otra distro?
[00:32] <k_Tux> aca un video ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FczgfTi1mIk
[10:34] <Tiffon> nas3
[15:29] <mefista> hola alguine conectado
[15:33] <mefista> uBOTu-fr:
[15:33] <mefista> estas ahy
[15:37] <mefista> si
[15:38] <krytarik> !pregunta | mefista
[15:38] <mefista> configurar vmail
[15:42] <mefista> sudo gem install vmail
[15:43] <mefista> lo tengo instalado como entro
[15:43] <mefista> a configurar
[15:49] <mimecar> preguntarle cosas a un bot de canal no te servirá de mucho
[15:50] <mefista> no me digas
[15:51] <mimecar> ¿ya has revisado la documentación de vmail en la web de ruby?
[15:51] <mimecar> http://www.rubydoc.info/gems/vmail/2.9.5
[15:53] <mefista> si
[15:53] <mimecar> en esa página te dice como se configura
[15:54] <mimecar> ¿cuál es el paso en el que te quedas?
[15:54] <mefista> si pero me da error en ~/.vmail/defaul/
[15:54] <mimecar> podías haber empezado por ahí
[15:54] <mimecar> ¿qué error te da?
[15:55] <mefista> no puedo entrar .vamilrc
[15:55] <mefista> no encuentra el directorio
[15:55] <mimecar> ¿lo has creado?
[15:55] <mefista> si
[15:56] <mefista> al instalarlo se crea verdad
[15:56] <mimecar> por partes
[15:56] <mimecar> ¿existe ~/.vmail/default ?
[15:58] <mefista> no lo veo
[15:58] <mimecar> pues crealo
[15:58] <mimecar> es una carpeta oculta
[15:59] <mefista> tengo k crear .vamilrc y dentro el default
[16:00] <mefista> en el home
[16:00] <mimecar> si no tienes las carpetas sí
[16:00] <mimecar> la ruta tiene que ser la misma que pone ne la documentación
[16:01] <mefista> mkdir .vmail
[16:04] <mefista> esta creada no me deja entrar para crear el default
[16:04] <mimecar> no estás usando sudo verdad?
[16:04] <mefista> no
[16:05] <mimecar> ¿cómo entras en la carpeta?
[16:06] <mefista> cd .vmail
[16:06] <mimecar> ¿qué error te da?
[16:06] <mefista> no such file or directory
[16:07] <mimecar> ¿te ha dado error al crear la carpeta en tu /home?
[16:07] <mefista> al crear no
[16:07] <mimecar> pues te tiene que dejar
[16:08] <mimecar> si no has cambiado de directorio y con ls -a aparece la carpeta
[16:08] <mefista> ya estoy dentro
[16:11] <mefista> sali pero ahora el mimsoerror
[16:12] <mefista> mkdir .vmailrc
[16:12] <mefista> cd .vamilrc
[16:12] <mimecar> ¿qué has hecho antes para que entrara a la carpeta?
[16:12] <mefista> con cd
[16:12] <mefista> pero ahora no such
[16:13] <mefista> no puede borrarlo tmpoco
[16:13] <mimecar> ve a tu carpeta /home y empieza de nuevo
[16:14] <mefista> y si lo creo dice k existe
[16:14] <mimecar> la carpeta ya existe porque la has creado antes
[18:44] <mefista> no puedo entrar en el .vmailrc k he creado
[18:44] <mimecar> pon la salida de ls -a (de /home) en pastebin
[18:46] <mefista> vale ya lo veo
[18:46] <mefista> ya estoy dentro ahora creo la carpeta default
[18:46] <mimecar> ...
[18:46] <mimecar> explicame la razón de que no pudieras entrar antes
[18:48] <mefista> estaba vamil
[18:48] <mimecar> por qué no estás usando el autocompletado de la consola?
[18:56] <mefista> tengo la carpeta .vmail/default
[18:56] <mefista> el archivo .vmailrc va dentro de default
[19:03] <mefista> lo creo dentro con touch el vmailrc
[19:15] <mimecar> mefista, sabes manejar bien Vim?
[19:16] <Guest79842> hola
[19:17] <mefista> lo estoy creando
[19:17] <mefista> lo grabo con el nombre .vmailrc
[19:17] <Guest79842> quien me da una mano acabo de instalar una trageta grafica que driever debu usar losa privativos probados o los libres?
[19:18] <mimecar> Guest79842, ¿qué versión de Ubuntu tienes?
[19:18] <Guest79842> 14 lts
[19:18] <mimecar> sigue con el driver libre
[19:19] <Guest79842> xubuntu
[19:20] <mefista> user , password, name y tmb signature script
[19:20] <mefista> o sin signature
[19:21] <mimecar> mefista, lo que diga el tutorial
[19:23] <mefista> signature_script: /home/choi/bin/vmail_signature.sh
[20:10] <mefista> como ejecuto el vmail
[20:11] <mimecar> lee el apartado "Starting Vmail" de la documentación
[20:13] <mefista> missing config file !
[20:13] <mimecar> entonces el archivo de configuración no está en la ruta que espera
[20:13] <mefista> lo he cread dentro de default
[20:14] <mefista> en el manual .vmail/default/vmailrc
[20:15] <mefista> el vmailrc ya esta con los datos
[20:15] <mimecar> pon en pastebin la salida de 'ls ~/.vmail/default/'
[20:16] <mefista> eso si no lo entiendo
[20:17] <mimecar> quiero comprobar que tienes el archivo donde busca el programa
[20:18] <mefista> como hago eso
[20:18] <mimecar> !paste
[20:18] <mimecar> pon la salida del comando ahí
[20:21] <mefista> como es la linea
[20:24] <mefista> como veo cual es la ruta
[20:33] <mefista> como !paste
[20:39] <mefista> missing config en vmail
[20:39] <mefista> como soluciono esto
[20:44] <mimecar> !paste
[20:44] <mimecar> pon en pastebin la salida de 'ls ~/.vmail/default/'
[20:44] <Leo007> xd
[20:46] <mefista> pero sigue igual
[20:46] <mimecar> ¿ya has pegado la salida del comando en pastebin?
[20:47] <mefista> vmail ~/.vmail/default
[20:48] <mimecar> pon en pastebin la salida de 'ls ~/.vmail/default/'
[20:48] <mimecar> cuando lo tengas en pastebin continuamos
[20:52] <mefista> no sush file
[20:52] <mimecar> al poner el comando que te he puesto?
[20:53] <mefista> pastebin ls /.vmail/default
[20:53] <mimecar> eso no es lo que te he puesto
[20:53] <mefista> pastebin ls ~/.vmail/default/
[20:53] <mimecar> tampoco
[20:53] <mimecar> ls ~/.vmail/default/
[20:54] <mimecar> y pegas el texto en Pastebin
[21:00] <mefista> como entro en pastebin
[21:02] <mimecar> abre el enlace de pastebin con un navegador
[21:03] <MrAnderson> Hola! Fuera del ambito de ubuntu! Alguien conoce un irc tipo undeground donde se pueda compartir información de diferentes ambitos?
[21:05] <mefista> el enlace
[21:07] <mimecar> !paste mefista
[21:20] <mefista> en poster kpongo
[21:21] <mimecar> el nombre que quieras
[21:21] <mefista> plain text
[21:22] <mimecar> selecciona bash
[21:22] <mefista> y descargo texto
[21:22] <mimecar> pega el texto en Content
[21:23] <mefista> content
[21:28] <mefista> donde content
[21:28] <mimecar> ¿ves el cuadro de texto que hay al lado de "Content"?
[21:30] <mefista> no lo veo
[21:30] <mefista> donde esta el cuadro detexto
[21:32] <mimecar> ves esta pantalla? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/92458135/IRC/Captura.PNG
[21:33] <mefista> ya eso esta hecho
[21:33] <mefista> ya esta en paste
[21:33] <mimecar> ves esa pantalla sí o no
[21:33] <mefista> si
[21:33] <mimecar> pon el enlace aquí
[21:34] <mefista> ya le di paste
[21:34] <mefista> en poster le puse correo luego bash y paste
[21:35] <mimecar> ¿has pegado el texto en el cuadro de texto que hay al lado de content?
[21:35] <mefista> si
[21:35] <mefista> ls ~/.vmail/default/
[21:35] <mimecar> pega el enlace que te ha dado pastebin al pulsar el botón
[21:36] <mefista> al pulsar el boton
[21:36] <mefista> elenlance ya lo tengo
[21:36] <mefista> donde lo pego
[21:37] <mimecar> aquí
[21:37] <mefista> ls ~/.vmail/default/
[21:37] <mimecar> el enlace de pastebin
[21:37] <mimecar> mefista, ¿te aclaras al usar Vim?
[21:40] <mefista> si
[21:40] <mefista> lo pego en .vmailrc
[21:40] <mimecar> usar pastebin es más sencillo
[21:40] <mimecar> por partes
[21:40] <mimecar> ¿has copiado al portapapeles la salida del comando ls ~/.vmail/default/ ?
[21:40] <mimecar> sí / no
[21:40] <MrAnderson> exit
[21:40] <mefista> no
[21:40] <mimecar> si no lo haces no sirve de nada usar pastebin
[21:41] <mefista> lo tengo en la web abierto
[21:41] <mimecar> quiero ver la salida del comando, copia el texto y pegalo en pastebin
[21:43] <mefista> ls ~/.vmail/default/
[21:44] <mimecar> cuando pones ese comando en el ordenador sale un texto
[21:44] <mimecar> copia ese texto y pegalo a la derecha de "Content" de la Web de Pastebin
[21:46] <mefista> cuando pongo ls ~/.vmail/default/
[21:46] <mefista> no sale nada
[21:46] <mimecar> si no sale nada no has guardado el archivo de configuración de vmail ahí
[21:48] <mefista> dentro de default tengo el vmailcr
[21:48] <mimecar> no lo tienes
[21:48] <mefista> con username y password
[21:48] <mimecar> acabas de decir que no sale nada con el comando ls
[21:49] <mefista> si pero lo estoy mirando
[21:49] <mimecar> mientras el comando 'ls' no te diga que existe el archivo, no existe para el sistema
[21:51] <mefista> .. .swp .vmailcr
[21:51] <mefista> entonces
[21:51] <mimecar> ¿ahora si que encuentra los archivos?
[21:52] <mefista> /home/.vmail/default# ls -a
[21:53] <mimecar> esa ruta es imposible que exista
[21:53] <mimecar> /home/usuario/.vmail/default
[21:53] <mimecar> el comando ls ~/.vmail/default/ tiene que mostrar los archivos
[21:53] <mimecar> ¿lo hace?
[21:55] <mefista> no
[21:55] <mefista> no encuentra el fiel
[21:55] <mimecar> ¿dónde tienes el archivo?
[21:56] <mimecar> ¿no estás usando el usuario root verdad?
[21:56] <mefista> si root
[21:56] <mimecar> pasa a un usuario normal
[21:56] <mimecar> NUNCA se usa el usuario root para cosas que no sean mantenimiento
[22:01] <mefista> vale ya tengo el user
[22:02] <mefista> ahora lo creo todo ahy
[22:02] <mimecar> sí
[22:02] <mimecar> ¿por qué estabas usando el usuario root? Ubuntu lo tiene desactivado por defecto
[22:03] <mefista> corro el vmail permiso denegado
[22:04] <mefista> mefista is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
[22:05] <mimecar> ¿cuál fue el primer usuario que creaste en el sistema?
[22:05] <mefista> estaba en root siempre
[22:05] <mefista> he creado recien mefista
[22:06] <mimecar> ¿has llamado al usuario que se crea en la instalación "root" ?
[22:06] <mefista> no el root por defecto
[22:06] <mimecar> ¿qué versión de Ubuntu estás usando?
[22:06] <mefista> estoy con kali linux
[22:06] <mimecar> ese detalle lo podrías haber dicho antes
[22:08] <mimecar> da permisos para usar sudo al usuario que has creado
[22:08] <mimecar> después crea el archivo de configuración en la ruta que espera el programa
[22:08] <mimecar> cuando el comando ls ~/.vmail/default/ muestre el archivo de configuración continuamos
[22:26] <mefista> esta creado todo pero sin mostarme ls
[22:27] <mimecar> ¿dónde la has creado?
[22:29] <mefista> esta en mi user
[22:29] <mimecar> en la carpeta ~/.vmail/default/ ?
[22:29] <mefista> si
[22:30] <mimecar> si está ahí tiene que aparecer con ls ~/.vmail/default/
[22:32] <mefista> permiso denegado
[22:32] <mimecar> si la has creado con el usuario nuevo
[22:32] <mimecar> sin usar sudo, no te puede decir eso
[22:42] <mefista> vale
[22:42] <mefista> ya esta
[22:42] <mefista> todo creado
[22:42] <mefista> ejecuto el vmail
[22:42] <mimecar> ¿aparece el archivo al usar ls?
[22:43] <mefista> y me sale cheking vmail.db.....ok
[22:43] <mefista> connecting to database
[22:44] <mefista> VMAIL_ERROR: Please log in via your web browser: https://support.google.com/mail/accounts/answer/78754 (Failure)
[22:44] <mimecar> Google seguramente te pedirá la autentificación segura
[22:45] <mimecar> tendrás que configurar tu cuenta de Gmail, por defecto ahora usa OATH2
[22:45] <mimecar> OAUTH2
[22:46] <mefista> explicate
[22:46] <mimecar> lee lo que pone en el enlace
[22:46] <mimecar> una aplicación de terceros sólo puede recibir correo por OAUTH2 o configurando la cuenta para que permita la conexión de aplicaciones menos seguraS
[22:51] <mefista> acceso a palicaciones menos seguras
[22:51] <mefista> ok
[22:51] <mefista> ya esta
[22:51] <mefista> lo estoy mirado
[22:52] <mefista> gracias tio
[23:00] <mefista> y gracias por la paciencia
[23:02] <mimecar> yo desconecto ya
[23:13] <Lopulus> hola gente. Hay algun programa similar al project de windows?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.909031
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-07-#juju
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[02:35] * arosales forgot to put in here that I was reviewing xcat, but sent my findings to the list
[04:55] <ddellav> jamespage, i missed your message earlier, here's the MP: https://code.launchpad.net/~ddellav/charms/trusty/neutron-api/ml2-port-security/+merge/276764
[13:59] <rajalokan> Hey guys. Any way of deploying a juju charm from local source code instead of pulling from github.
[13:59] <rajalokan> Any pointers or help appreciated.
[19:12] <tvansteenburgh> rajalokan: https://jujucharms.com/docs/devel/charms-deploying#deploying-from-a-local-repository
[19:38] <rajalokan> Thanks tvansteenburgh for replying. Was away so couldn't reply. But this isn't the answer I was looking.
[19:38] <rajalokan> I guess I was wrong in framing the question.
[19:40] <rajalokan> What I want is to deploy say OpenStack keystone, But not any distro packaged liberty release or liberty release from OpenStack github page. Rather keystone should be installed from my local source code.
[19:41] <rajalokan> Was thinking if we can use juju to setup developer workstation. Apologies again for improperly framed question.
[19:45] <tvansteenburgh> rajalokan: there is a "Deploying from source" section here https://jujucharms.com/keystone/trusty/31, maybe that helps?
[19:56] <rajalokan> Thanks tvansteenburgh. Going though it but I remember seeing `repositories` accept only 'git' or 'bzr'. Nothing like a file system.
[19:56] <rajalokan> Let me find that out.
[19:56] <tvansteenburgh> rajalokan: yeah you would probably have to push your code to a public repo
[19:58] <rajalokan> Yeah. seems like it. Just wanted to confirm it here. I will stick with devstack for some more while then.
[20:53] <wolsen> rajalokan: you may want to touch base with coreycb on the deploy from source. Presumably the local file system it's being deployed from points to a guy repo somewhere, iirc it uses that to branch locally - theoretically you could make local edits then redeploy but I may be wrong on that. coreycb is the guy you want to talk to on it though
[20:54] <wolsen> err s/guy repo/git repo - on my phone - lovely autocorrect
[21:02] <rick_h__> rajalokan: tvansteenburgh we're working on something like this for this cycle
[21:02] <rick_h__> rajalokan: tvansteenburgh where you can mount your local filesystem with the lxd provider to do openstack dev as you describe
[21:02] <rick_h__> rajalokan: and the charms would be able to locate the source code to use off that mounted shared filesystem
[21:02] <rick_h__> rajalokan: tvansteenburgh so it's not here atm, but a use case teams are working on for 16.04
[21:03] <rick_h__> rajalokan: look for the lxd provider work soon (the first leg of the task) and happy to have folks test things out and see how they feel as we work along
[21:38] <tvansteenburgh> rick_h__: cool, thanks. saw a demo of the lxd provider yesterday - eager to give that a spin
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.915328
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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