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[00:36] <Scunizi> I'm revamping an old laptop ridding it of Win XP that has failed.. Installed xubuntu and I'm trying to activate the Nvidia 173 legacy drivers via the GUI.. No dice. After hitting apply and waiting a few secs, it reverts. no download or install. how do I fix this behavoir?
[00:38] <Troller> Anyone knows a channel I can get help with a virus?
[00:39] <Scunizi> on a linux machine?
[00:40] <Troller> im on linux now so Im immune to it but I want to learn about it because I use windows at my school
[00:40] <Troller> and most comptuers there are infected
[00:41] <GeekDude> "so Im immune" Not completely true, just immune to windows and mac infections
[00:41] <GeekDude> If you want help with an infection on a windows machine, you should probably ask a windows support channel
[00:41] <Scunizi> check the #ubuntu channell for building a live cd/usb with virus check on it. You'll have to boot a machine to the live environment, run the virus check on the windows drive and let it do it's magic. You could probably Google this info as well on how to create it with a normal live Ubuntu environment.
[00:41] <Troller> all right, thanks
[00:42] <GeekDude> I rather like malwarebytes (chameleon if necessary)
[02:17] <xubuntu981> hello
[02:17] <xubuntu981> i have a question
[02:17] <xubuntu981> anybody here?
[02:18] <xubuntu981> please i really need help
[02:22] <GeekDude> Hi
[02:22] <xubuntu981> hi
[02:22] <bazhang> ask a question
[02:22] <GeekDude> I'd help but I have to sleep. Best of luck!
[02:22] <xubuntu981> ok so i'm trying to install xubuntu on my laptop
[02:22] <xubuntu981> installation works fine
[02:23] <xubuntu981> but when it comes to booting, no bootable device is found
[02:25] <xubuntu981> what can i do about it?
[02:28] <xubuntu981> that's my main pc
[02:29] <xubuntu981_> hi
[02:30] <xubuntu981_> oh you're back
[02:33] <xubuntu981_> please tell me :((
[05:18] <xubuntu73i> this is amazing
[05:18] <xubuntu73i> whoa!
[05:24] <mtyamantau> Hey peeps. What is the proper way to script a particular program in a specific workspace on Xfwm4? I've tried looking online, and all I can find is wmctrl, which I am not satisfied with
[05:24] <mtyamantau> Seems hacky
[05:25] <mtyamantau> *script to open a particular program
[06:33] <RavinduL> Hi! How would I add a launcher that runs the command `thunar "~/Documents"` into the Xubuntu applications view? I created a launcher on the desktop with that command and it worked perfectly, but when I moved it to the ~/.local/share/applications/ directory it gave me error "Error when getting information for file '/home/username/~/Documents': No such file or directory."
[06:34] <RavinduL> Oh wait I just fixed it.
[06:35] <RavinduL> Changed the path of the .desktop file to ~ and changed the exec to `thunar "Documents"`
[06:35] <RavinduL> Yay
[08:23] <GrandCouillon> Hello guys, I am under 15.10 and after the installation of "codeblocks" from standard repo I can't start it : "codeblocks: relocation error: /usr/lib/libcodeblocks.so.0: symbol _ZThn776_N17wxGenericListCtrl31GetSizeAvailableForScrollTargetERK6wxSize, version WXU_3.0 not defined in file libwx_gtk2u_core-3.0.so.0 with link time reference". I have made lots of "cleaning" without success. Does anyone have an idea ?
[08:26] <cfhowlett> GrandCouillon, more eyes in #ubuntu. ask there.
[08:26] <GrandCouillon> cfhowlett, Ok, thanks
[10:34] <xubuntu15w> hello
[10:34] <xubuntu15w> good day
[10:35] <xubuntu15w> just want to ask
[10:36] <xubuntu15w> does anybody here experiencing a shutdown issue after upgrading to wily werewolf
[10:43] <franco_> hello just want to ask how to resolve a shutdown issue, shutdown becomes reboot after upgrade to wily werewolf
[11:45] <xubuntu681> hi
[11:45] <xubuntu681> can anybody help me?
[11:52] <Meerkat> xubuntu681, please write your question and we'll see what we can do
[11:56] <xubuntu681> okay so i am currently trying to install xubuntu on my laptop
[11:56] <xubuntu681> the installation works fine, but when i try to boot, there's no bootable device
[11:57] <bazhang> the installation was not fine then
[11:57] <Meerkat> xubuntu681, did you manually partition the disk or did you let Xubuntu do that?
[11:58] <xubuntu681> i let xubuntu do that
[11:58] <bazhang> first, md5 the iso, use an appropriate tool to burn the iso to usb
[11:58] <xubuntu681> @bazhang i used uNetbootin
[11:59] <bazhang> md5 the iso first
[11:59] <xubuntu681> how do i do that?
[11:59] <bazhang> !md5
[11:59] <bazhang> see above
[12:00] <xubuntu681> on my main computer is windows running
[12:00] <xubuntu681> oh
[12:00] <xubuntu681> now i see ^^
[12:08] <xubuntu681> wow
[12:08] <xubuntu681> i even fail to navigate to another hard drive
[12:10] <xubuntu681> okay
[12:10] <xubuntu681> it says md5sum: WARNING: 334 of 334 listed files could not be read
[12:10] <Spass> AFAIK unetbootin installs boot loader on a pendrive instead on your drive
[12:11] <xubuntu681> umm i tried to install using an usb stick
[12:11] <Spass> you must manually choose right device on this screen http://i.stack.imgur.com/5JkQX.png
[12:11] <Spass> yep, i've recently had same issue
[12:11] <Spass> with unetbootin
[12:11] <xubuntu681> so what do i have to do exactly?
[12:12] <Spass> well, i don't know any other way than reinstall
[12:12] <Spass> maybe someone knows how to install a boot loader from livecd?
[12:13] <xubuntu681> i dont have a cd drive in the laptop
[12:13] <Spass> there's no need
[12:13] <xubuntu681> oh thats what you mean now i understand it
[12:14] <xubuntu681> ok so the problem is not the installation but the boot? does it even copy the files to the hard drive??
[12:14] <Spass> i think your installation is ok, but you don't have boot loader installed on the right drive
[12:15] <Spass> unetbootin installed it on the pendrive... that's my guess
[12:15] <xubuntu681> what's pendrive?
[12:15] <xubuntu681> the usb stick?
[12:15] <Spass> yes, usb stick
[12:15] <xubuntu681> hmm
[12:16] <xubuntu681> how do i fix this?
[12:16] <Spass> unless you find a way to install boot loader from livecd (or someone here knows how to do it) try to reinstall
[12:16] <xubuntu681> i did
[12:16] <xubuntu681> 4 times or so
[12:17] <Spass> using the same usb stick, but choose to manually partition your drive
[12:17] <xubuntu681> i even tried using debian
[12:17] <xubuntu681> okay
[12:17] <Spass> and choose right device for a boot loader
[12:18] <Spass> drop list under "Device for boot loader installation:" http://i.stack.imgur.com/5JkQX.png
[12:18] <Spass> or... try to install boot loader from live cd
[12:18] <Spass> live usb ;)
[12:19] <Spass> but i don't know how, but google knows i suppose
[12:19] <xubuntu681> you mean start the live OS and then use the link on the desktop to install? i did that
[12:19] <xubuntu681> didn't work aswell
[12:20] <Spass> start live cd and use command line (terminal) to install grub on your drive
[12:20] <Spass> with no need to reinstall then
[12:20] <xubuntu681> ok wait a second i start the live device now
[12:21] <xubuntu681> ok good
[12:21] <xubuntu681> i'm in the terminal
[12:21] <Spass> but like i said, i'm a casual user and i don't know the correct command to do that :)
[12:22] <Spass> i'm googling it
[12:22] <xubuntu681> ok
[12:27] <Spass> sudo blkid
[12:28] <Spass> to find out what drives/partitions you have
[12:28] <xubuntu681> i see
[12:28] <xubuntu681> there
[12:28] <xubuntu681> 's sda1-sda3
[12:28] <Spass> btw, i'm basing in this HowTo https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[12:28] <Spass> "via the LiveCD terminal" part
[12:29] <Spass> *basing on this
[12:30] <Spass> sda3 is swap i suppose, what are sda1 and sda2 in your case?
[12:31] <xubuntu681> sda1: UUID="C838-7D50" TYPE="vfat"
[12:31] <xubuntu681> sda2: Type ext4
[12:32] <Spass> you have windows on sda1 right?
[12:32] <xubuntu681> no
[12:32] <xubuntu681> i dont
[12:32] <xubuntu681> the computer has absolutely no OS
[12:33] <xubuntu681> oh and there's /dev/loop0: TYPE="squashfs"
[12:36] <Spass> well i think it will be easier to just reinstall then :D
[12:36] <Spass> from the shortcut on live cd
[12:37] <Spass> but this time partition your drive manually
[12:41] <Spass> i blame unetbootin for your problems
[12:41] <cfhowlett> strangely enough, unetbootin creates a very different USB than the default ubuntu startupUSBCreator
[12:42] <xubuntu681> okay
[12:42] <Spass> when you create your livecd on windows, consider Win32 Disk Imager, i think it;s much better for liveusb
[12:42] <xubuntu681> i did use it but the stick was not bootable then
[12:42] <xubuntu681> umm should i format the hard drive before reinstalling?
[12:42] <Spass> strange, i never had problems with it
[12:43] <Spass> if you don't have anything important on this drive then yes
[12:43] <xubuntu681> ok good
[12:43] <xubuntu681> as i said the pc is brand new there isn't anything on it
[12:43] <Spass> choose sda for your boot loader device
[12:44] <Spass> on the bottom of the partitioning screen
[12:45] <xubuntu681> 1 second...
[12:46] <xubuntu681> good so there's only one device for the bootloader installation
[12:46] <xubuntu681> and in the upper window there's /dev/dsa and unused storage
[12:47] <xubuntu681> */dev/sda
[12:47] <xubuntu681> which one should i select?
[12:49] <Spass> if you want to use whole drive on linux first i suggest to delete all existing partitions
[12:49] <Spass> and then create 2 main partions on 'unused starage'
[12:49] <xubuntu681> there is only /dev/sda with no memory size and free disk space
[12:50] <Spass> create primary sda1 ext4 for whole system (/) and sda2 as a swap
[12:50] <xubuntu681> how big should those patitions be each?
[12:51] <Spass> how big is your drive? how much ram do you have on this computer?
[12:51] <xubuntu681> 500 107 MB
[12:52] <xubuntu681> 4 GB
[12:54] <Spass> first you should consider one thing - do you need two separate partitions for system files (/) and you user files (/home)
[12:54] <Spass> when you have it separate it can help you in the future when you will want to install other linux distribution
[12:55] <Spass> or... when you just want to install it "windows style" create one big partition
[12:55] <Spass> I personally have all files on one partition
[12:56] <xubuntu681> okay and which file system does it have to be?
[12:56] <cfhowlett> default = ext4
[12:56] <Spass> ext4 is default
[12:56] <Spass> yes
[12:57] <xubuntu681> what about the option below? (don't know how it's called in english) where i can select "/", "/home", "/tmp" etc.
[12:57] <Spass> "/" for whole system on one partition
[12:57] <Spass> default
[12:58] <xubuntu681> well default is empty
[12:58] <Spass> select "/"
[12:58] <xubuntu681> ok
[12:59] <Spass> and swap should be couple of GB i think, maybe 5GB? i don't know today trends
[12:59] <xubuntu681> now there's "/dev/sda" with no space, then 1MB of empty space, then "/dev/sda1", and then another MB
[13:01] <Spass> resize sda1 ext4, you should free some space for swap partition
[13:01] <Meerkat> you dont really need swap these days?
[13:02] <Spass> you don't?
[13:02] <Meerkat> the kernel will kill programs if the computer runs out of RAM. The swap will only make the last few minutes really slow until that runs out too.
[13:03] <Spass> oh, ok
[13:03] <Spass> and how about hibernate function on laptops?
[13:03] <xubuntu681> umm now there's two options for the bootloader installation
[13:04] <Spass> "/dev/sda"
[13:04] <Meerkat> Spass, you'll need the amount of RAM you have on the computer for that. But I haven't run into a situation where those features actually work on Ubuntu.
[13:04] <xubuntu681> okay good
[13:04] <xubuntu681> should i install now?
[13:05] <Spass> go for it :) let's see how it goes
[13:05] <xubuntu681> does it matter which drive i select in the upper windows?
[13:05] <xubuntu681> window*?
[13:05] <xubuntu681> like /dev/sda1?
[13:06] <Spass> what do you mean select? highlight?
[13:06] <xubuntu681> yes
[13:07] <Spass> no, i don't think that's important at this point
[13:07] <xubuntu681> okay
[13:07] <xubuntu681> ok now theres a message
[13:08] <Spass> Meerkat, ok, so i remembered it correctly
[13:10] <xubuntu681> "the partition table format in use on your disks normally requires you to create a separate partition for boot loader code. this partition should be marked as use as an 'EFI boot partition' and should be at least 35 MB in size. Note that this is not the same as a partition moundted on /boot. If you do not go back to the partitioning menu and correct this error, boot loader installation may fail later, although it may still be pos
[13:10] <xubuntu681> a partition."
[13:11] <Spass> looks like you have to create 3 partitions on your system
[13:12] <xubuntu681> so...?
[13:17] <Spass> you could try to: delete all partitions, create sda1 100MB marked as an 'EFI boot partition', sda2 495GB ext4 for "/" and sda3 5GB for swap
[13:17] <Spass> and install boot loader on "/dev/sda1"
[13:18] <xubuntu681> 100 MB?
[13:18] <Spass> but i'm just guessing at this point, i've never before encountered 'EFI'
[13:18] <Spass> yes 100 MB
[13:19] <Spass> it's just for boot loader code
[13:19] <Spass> like in this messege above you pasted
[13:20] <Spass> *message
[13:21] <xubuntu681> okay now there's the partitions and in the bottom i can choose the device for the bootloader installation
[13:21] <xubuntu681> which one should i choose there?
[13:25] <Spass> you marked (somewhere) this 100mb partition as EFI boot partition
[13:25] <xubuntu681> yes
[13:25] <xubuntu681> sda1
[13:25] <Spass> choose "/dev/sda1"
[13:25] <Spass> if possible
[13:25] <xubuntu681> okay
[13:25] <xubuntu681> continue?
[13:25] <xubuntu681> and hope?
[13:26] <Spass> yes :)
[13:26] <Spass> no strange message = good news
[13:27] <xubuntu681> data is copying
[13:31] <Spass> what version are you installing? just curious
[13:33] <xubuntu681> you mean distribution?
[13:34] <Spass> yes, and version
[13:34] <Spass> 15.10?
[13:34] <xubuntu681> i guess the latest one
[13:35] <xubuntu681> oh no it's 14.04
[13:36] <cfhowlett> still supported
[13:37] <xubuntu681> well i will probably update as soon as everything is running smoothely
[13:37] <Spass> 14.04 is a good option for start
[13:38] <Spass> it is stable and have long time support (LTS)
[13:38] <xubuntu681> hm well i actually need the computer for university only so it's not that big of a deal as long as the terminal works fine
[13:38] <cfhowlett> xubuntu681, 14.04 is long term support. if you really NEED the lastest shiny stuff, OK, but otherwise you might find LTS the sanest option
[13:39] <xubuntu681> ok that's good then
[13:39] <Spass> yes i agree, you should stick with lts versions for stability
[13:40] <Spass> next LTS will be 16.04 so it will be released around april 2016
[13:40] <Spass> then you should upgrade
[13:40] * cfhowlett upgrades only on the first LTS point release 14.04.1 > 16.04.1
[13:43] <xubuntu681> okay good i'll do that then
[13:43] <xubuntu681> @spass installation still in progress
[13:44] <Spass> fingers crossed
[13:48] <xubuntu681> ok restart or do i have to do something else?
[13:50] <Spass> nope
[13:50] <xubuntu681> ok wish me luck
[13:52] <xubuntu681> can i pull out the usb stick?
[13:52] <Spass> yes, after the reboot
[13:52] <Meerkat> xubuntu681, if the install is done and you have restarted then you can remove it.
[13:53] <xubuntu681> i'm in the bios to set the boot order
[13:53] <xubuntu681> so can i remove it safely?
[13:53] <Meerkat> yes
[13:53] <Spass> yes
[13:53] <Spass> :)
[13:53] <xubuntu681> good
[13:53] <xubuntu681> no bootable device.
[13:53] <Meerkat> now I have a question. Why does patching have to be so darn difficult?! :/
[13:54] <Spass> you can try to find option called 'legacy boot' in the bios
[13:54] <Meerkat> xubuntu681, what is first in your bios boot order?
[13:54] <Spass> or something like that
[13:55] <xubuntu681> hdd
[13:55] <xubuntu681> should i try legacy boot?
[13:56] <Spass> that could help
[13:56] <xubuntu681> nope
[13:56] <xubuntu681> doesn't
[13:59] <Spass> well, i'm really sorry i couldn't help you, i tried my best
[14:01] <xubuntu681> well, sh*t
[14:02] <Spass> the only possibility i can think right know is to leave legacy boot 'on' for the whole process, and try to reinstall once again, but it could be just a waste of time...
[14:03] <xubuntu681> i already tried that
[14:03] <Spass> install on sda1 ext4 "/" 495gb and sda2 swap 5gb and boot device on "/dev/sda" (not sda1) and ignore strange messages and try to boot on legacy mode
[14:04] <Spass> or try to get in touch with some linux guru lurking on this channel
[14:05] <xubuntu681> how do i know who is a linux guru :D
[14:06] <artag> by their beards and sandals
[14:06] <xubuntu681> xDD
[14:06] <Spass> :)
[14:06] <cfhowlett> NECKbeards ...
[14:08] <artag> btw no offence intended. I have a neckbeard, and a selection of far less attractive descriptions of windows geeks
[14:08] <cfhowlett> :)
[14:09] <artag> tbh though, I think what you really want is a BIOS geek. Not sure how to recognise them.
[14:12] <artag> I have a similar problem myself, where I had a perfectly working ubuntu laptop and tried to make it dual-boot win7 and mint, for largely bogus reasons. I find I'm having to change from UEFI for windows to legacy BIOS for Mint, which shouldn't be necessary
[14:12] <artag> If I ever find I actually want to use the win7 part I mihgt have to try harder to fix that
[14:16] <Unit193> You need to install Xubuntu under secureboot then, don't install in legacy mode.
[14:16] <Unit193> Specifically, the 64bit version.
[14:18] <artag> I'll try it again. Ideally I should do that before there's much stuff to backup
[14:19] <xubuntu681> does anybody have any idea for me?
[14:28] <xubuntu681> please?
[14:31] <krytarik> xubuntu681: I didn't follow the whole thing, but did you read Unit193's message? Also, you can try in #ubuntu for that too.
[14:32] <Unit193> krytarik: I didn't either. :3
[14:32] <krytarik> Heh.
[14:32] <xubuntu681> so i have to uefi boot with secure mode turned ON?
[14:36] <xubuntu681> ?
[14:43] <krytarik> xubuntu681: Doesn't Unit193's message imply that?
[14:45] <xubuntu681> krytarik: yes, english = shit :D
[14:55] <krytarik> xubuntu681: Would you rather #ubuntu-de then?
[14:56] <xubuntu681> krytarik it's fine, but i'm sometimes not sure about commands and stuff you guys write :D
[15:02] <Unit193> krytarik: He's in #ubuntu, all good.
[15:06] <xubuntu681> i'm in #ubuntu-de aswell but they don't seem to answer
[15:09] <krytarik> xubuntu681: Just have a bit patience, it's usually pretty active there.
[15:09] <xubuntu681> ok
[15:12] <williangarcia> Hi , Can i fix my restart option , when I will restart my computer screen just hangs, but when I will shutdown my PC work fine...
[15:12] <williangarcia> how can i fix **
[17:20] <kozukumi> how do i edit the grub menu from xubuntu 15.10?
[17:20] <kozukumi> actually i dont even need it, can i make it just boot to linux now?
[17:23] <kozukumi> is there a gksu for xfce that is built in?
[17:35] <krytarik> kozukumi: "pkexec mousepad /etc/default/grub"
[17:36] <kozukumi> krytarik, thanks but i cant seem to figure out everything from /etc/grub.d/ files
[17:38] <krytarik> kozukumi: Huh, aren't you following like this?: http://askubuntu.com/questions/143500/how-can-i-boot-directly-to-ubuntu-after-removing-windows-from-a-dual-boot
[17:43] <kozukumi> how can i stop it detecting the windows partition when it does an update?
[17:50] <krytarik> kozukumi: "GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true" from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup#Configuring_GRUB_2
[17:50] <kozukumi> awesome, thank you!
[17:50] <krytarik> Sure.
[17:55] <kozukumi> works perfectly, thanks krytarik
[17:55] <krytarik> Alright. :)
[17:58] <kozukumi> it seems to wait a couple of seconds on a "black" screen tho which is a bit odd, im gonna see if i can get grub to just fire up the default instantly
[18:04] <krytarik> kozukumi: I think that's the time it loads the kernel though.
[18:04] <kozukumi> ah ok
[18:04] <kozukumi> strange because if i have it prompt me and i hit enter right away it boots faster
[18:04] <kozukumi> hmmm
[18:07] <kozukumi> is it possible to disable grub and just have it boot right into linux or do i need to use grub to do that?
[18:15] <krytarik> kozukumi: You need some sort of boot loader, yes - and Grub is the default on Ubuntu.
[18:16] <kozukumi> ok cheers
[18:16] <kozukumi> gonna try and get an image on it now lol
[18:30] <kozukumi> right well everything is almost perfect :)
[18:30] <kozukumi> last thing is to work out how to get window edge for resizing a bit bigger
[18:32] <drc> kozukumi: The only way I know (with deep voodoo) is Settings>Window Manager>Theme=Greybird-accessibility
[18:32] <drc> s/with/without
[18:32] <kozukumi> drc yeah
[18:33] <drc> Which make the windows about 3 pixels too big for the way I do thing :(
[18:33] <kozukumi> sucks
[18:33] <kozukumi> i wish i could set it to 5 pixels or something but without fucking up the theme
[18:34] <krytarik> kozukumi: Just work around it :P - http://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce/
[18:34] <kozukumi> yeah i use alt+rightclick
[18:34] <kozukumi> works ok 90% of the time for my needs
[18:34] <kozukumi> bit of a pain when i am just using the mouse
[20:18] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> Hi
[20:18] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> Does anyone know what happened with the whole wireless-regdb thing in Xubuntu/ubuntu
[20:18] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> I'm on 14.04
[20:18] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> I wanted to make my own regulatory.bin
[20:18] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> but I have no idea where to put it
[20:19] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> What does iw reg get/set rely on?
[20:34] <bekks> wireless-regdb? Never heard of it.
[20:35] <ochosi> J_EDGAR_HOOVER: that doesn't sound like it's xubuntu specific
[20:37] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> It's maybe part of the linux kernel or.. GNU project
[20:37] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> It seems that Xubuntu must have some specific place where the regulatory domain file is
[20:37] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> When you type as su ... <iw reg get> you get your domain location
[20:38] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> if you do <iw reg set NZ> you uncap it a bit.
[20:38] <Unit193> Are you actually asking or is this the same stuff you were going over in ##linux?
[20:38] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> I'm actually asking.
[20:38] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> Like I know as much as I just said.. and that in the past you could compile your own regulatory.bin file, then verify it.
[20:39] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> But now it's like they "obfuscated it" and i'm not sure if that's Xubuntu doing it or the Linux/GNU team
[20:39] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> They probably don't publish much about it because the more they do, the more people will uncap their NIC's tx power and violate the FCC or applicable government regulation body
[20:39] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> So I'll just assume that, until I hear anything else.
[20:39] <Unit193> Perhaps see regulatory.bin(5) and /lib/crda/regulatory.bin
[20:40] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> Oh wow I think it's right there. Thank you so much
[20:40] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> It could be one I put there, but I think that's the location in Xubuntu :D ty
[20:42] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> if anyone's interested following this should allow you to make your own replacement regulatory.bin , but keep in mind you munst make another file too to "verify" it. http://null-byte.wonderhowto.com/how-to/set-your-wi-fi-cards-tx-power-higher-than-30-dbm-0149606/
[20:46] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> How do I untar these kinds of files
[20:46] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> crda-latest.tar.bz2 wireless-regdb-2015.10.22.tar.xz
[20:46] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> wireless-regdb-2015.10.22.tar.gz
[20:46] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> Well other than the bz2
[20:46] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> im trying tar xvjf
[20:48] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> nvm ill just open thunar as root
[20:50] <hoodedice> I mapped SuperUser to whisker menu -- it makes it easier to open programs.
[20:51] <hoodedice> The thing is, Mousepad is something I use often, but when I type "Mouse", the selector is on "Mouse and Touchpad"
[20:51] <hoodedice> Is there a way to add an alias to the Mousepad entry in the whisker menu settings so I can type, say, "text" and it will open mousepad?
[20:53] <mrkramps> hoodedice, no and yes
[20:54] <mrkramps> just create a new menu entry
[20:55] <hoodedice> gotcha
[20:55] <hoodedice> thanks
[20:55] <mrkramps> hoodedice, copy /usr/share/applications/mousepad.desktop to ~/.local/share/applications/texteditor.desktop
[20:56] <mrkramps> edit the copy and change name to "Text Editor"
[20:56] <mrkramps> optionally, delete all content from this file not required
[20:57] <hoodedice> okay, I'll try it out
[21:24] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> Think I did it...
[21:24] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> root@network:/home/cia/Desktop/WirelessRegNew/crda-1.1.3# make
[21:24] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> CHK /usr/lib/crda/regulatory.bin
[21:24] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> root@network:/home/cia/Desktop/WirelessRegNew/crda-1.1.3# make install
[21:24] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> GZIP crda.8
[21:24] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> GZIP regdbdump.8
[21:24] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> INSTALL crda
[21:24] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> INSTALL regdbdump
[21:24] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> INSTALL 85-regulatory.rules
[21:24] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> INSTALL crda.8.gz
[21:24] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> INSTALL regdbdump.8.gz
[21:24] <hoodedice> uh
[21:28] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> Problem is i'm not sure wher eit put the new regulatory.bin
[21:28] <Unit193> !pastebin | J_EDGAR_HOOVER
[21:28] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> it wants /usr/lib/cdra but in xubuntu its /lib/crda
[21:28] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> crda*
[21:28] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> Ok.
[21:28] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> sorry
[21:30] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> Well I replaced the regulatory.bin
[21:30] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> and got the pubkeys right
[21:30] <J_EDGAR_HOOVER> should be OK on reboot. wish me luck :)
[23:12] <kozukumi> can i remove the lock screen button from the main whisker menu?
[23:14] <kozukumi> ah yes i can :D
[23:39] <xubuntu29w> Hi ! I have a basic question...
[23:40] <drc> xubuntu29w: You're in luck, we are overstocked in Basic Answers...just ask :)
[23:42] <xubuntu29w> I connect my android phone to my laptop with a usb cable and wants to open some pictures but I cannot look at them
[23:42] <xubuntu29w> when I click on them
[23:42] <xubuntu29w> nothing is displayed...
[23:42] <xubuntu29w> any reason?
[23:42] <hoodedice> you need to mount your sd card
[23:43] <xubuntu29w> I have to save them first and after click on them to be abe to look at them...
[23:43] <hoodedice> on your desktop, there should be a greyed out drive
[23:43] <hoodedice> save them?
[23:43] <hoodedice> oh, you already mounted it, missed that, sorry
[23:44] <xubuntu29w> yes already mounted...
[23:44] <xubuntu29w> and yes... I need to save them on my hard drive to look at the pictures..
[23:47] <xubuntu29w> but if I click on a folder the pictures are displayed in the folder andca look at them all as view icons or view as detailed list...
[23:47] <xubuntu29w> but when I click on oe of them in this case it doesnt work. the picture is not displayed
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.921035
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-uk
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[08:24] <knightwise> morning peeps !
[10:31] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:33] <MartijnVdS> \o brobostigon
[10:33] <brobostigon> hi MartijnVdS
[15:22] <diddledan> windows 7 is by far the most popular os in netscore stats with XP falling in second (still!)
[15:26] <diddledan> ref: https://www.thurrott.com/windows/7473/windows-10-approaches-8-of-pc-market-share
[15:31] <zmoylan-pi> 1 billion chinese pirate copies can't be wrong :-)
[15:36] <Neoti_Laptop> Anyone looking to recruit a network guy with experience of Vyatta/VyOS and UBNT Microwave kit. looking for new opportunities and contracts
[15:46] <diddledan> you know I was just this second wondering where I can find a network person with experience of Vyatta/VyOS and UBNT Microwave kit
[15:52] <Neoti_Laptop> lol... :)
[15:54] <m0nkey_> I got 50% of that requirement
[15:55] <diddledan> m0nkey_, don't you have a microwave in the kitchen?
[15:55] <m0nkey_> Not a Ubiquiti one
[15:55] <diddledan> meh, it's all the same :-p
[15:55] <diddledan> the queen likes microwaves - she barely moves her hand at all when waving
[16:14] <SuperEngineer> diddledan, thart would be because she out her hand in the microwave!
[20:00] <brobostigon> new dr who, :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.925419
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-de
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[10:23] <smeexs> der hätte gestern nur auf drucker eigenschaften gehen brauchen und den drucker auf aktiv schalten ^^ die canon wechseln da manchmal den modus beim einrichten auf inaktiv oder wartung
[10:52] <stevieh> lol
[11:10] <bekks> Manche müssen das vorgekaut bekommen...
[11:23] <jokrebel> und selbst dann klappt das nur vielleicht und erst nach Stunden </OT>
[13:41] <xetra11> Hallo Leute
[13:41] <xetra11> Bin ein Linux Neuling - bitte um Rat :)
[13:42] <xetra11> Ich würde gerne in Mint den Terminal Only Modus haben
[13:42] <xetra11> Welcher Shortcut ist dafür von Nöten - finde via google irgendwie nichts dazu
[13:43] <jokrebel> xetra11: Linux Mint? Die haben nen eigenen Support.
[13:44] <xetra11> Wie ist das gemeint?
[13:45] <jokrebel> xetra11: Dass Du hier für Mint keinen support bekommen kannst, schon allein weil in Mint vieles völlig anders ist als in Ubuntu.
[13:47] <xetra11> Achso okay danke trotzdem
[14:18] <rentier_> Ich hatte beim Runterfahren vor Monaten EIN einziges Mal angekreuzt, dass er die aktuelle Sitzung zum Wiederherstellen speichern soll. Seither macht er das IMMER!
[14:18] <rentier_> Unter Einstellungen-Sitzung und Startverhalten ist NICHT angekreuzt, dass er das machen soll
[14:18] <rentier_> Wie gewöhne ich dem Rechner das Speichern der Sitzung ab?
[14:27] <jokrebel> welcher Desktop und welche Ubuntu-Version?
[14:27] <jokrebel> Oder sprichst von zB. nur dem Browser?
[14:57] <xubuntu681> hallo
[14:57] <xubuntu681> kennt sich jemand mit bios problemen aus?
[15:02] <frostschutz> xubuntu681, stell eine richtige frage
[15:03] <xubuntu681> also ich hab xubuntu installiert und das ging ohne probleme, aber beim booten findet er keine bootquelle
[15:09] <jokrebel> xubuntu681: Wohin hast Du denn Grub installieren lassen?
[15:10] <xubuntu681> jokrebel: ich hab zuerst versucht es auf /sda zu installieren (was halt als festplatte angezeigt wurde) und dann beim 2. mal in einen boot-ordner (hat mir jemand in #xubuntu empfohlen)
[15:14] <frostschutz> xubuntu681, kannst du mal deine partitionierung zeigen, ausgabe von parted -l?
[15:15] <krytarik> !pasten > xubuntu681
[15:15] <krytarik> Bleh, kubine ist schon wieder raus. :P
[15:16] <krytarik> xubuntu681: D.h., benutze bitte einen Pastebin dafür.
[15:17] <xubuntu681> krytarik: ok
[15:18] <xubuntu681> was genau ist mit parted -l gemeint
[15:18] <xubuntu681> gibt bei mir keine ausgabe
[15:19] <frostschutz> ggf. sudo apt-get install parted; sudo parted -l
[15:20] <xubuntu681> ok soll ich das jetzt in die pastebin abtippen?
[15:21] <xubuntu681> bin auf nem anderen pc unterwegs
[15:24] <xubuntu681> http://pastebin.com/3pb5dRNr
[15:27] <frostschutz> xubuntu681, selbst so partitioniert oder soll das der installer so gemacht haben?
[15:27] <xubuntu681> frostschutz: selber, weil mir das einer gesagt hat aus #xubuntu. ging aber auch nicht, als der installer es gemacht hat.
[15:28] <frostschutz> xubuntu681, also so ists jedenfalls nicht richtig. unterstützt dein board uefi und willst du das benutzen, oder darfs legacy sein? im Fall von uefi fehlt der Partition das esp flag. für grub fehlt eine bios_boot partition, und für legacy könnte man noch das bootflag im mbr aktivieren
[15:29] <frostschutz> bios_grub partition
[15:29] <xubuntu681> ja, UEFI wird unterstützt, wenn mans für 64-bit braucht würde ich es gerne verwenden
[15:30] <frostschutz> ist geschmackssache
[15:31] <xubuntu681> wie meinst du das
[15:33] <frostschutz> hat mit 64bit nichts zu tun, du kannst es so oder so machen. wenn noch windows mit im spiel ist sieht es vielleicht anders aus
[15:33] <xubuntu681> nö, kein windows.
[15:34] <xubuntu681> dann, wie ist es leichter
[15:34] <xubuntu681> ich kann halt nciht von meinem usb stick booten wenn ich auf legacy umstelle
[15:36] <frostschutz> für uefi brauchst du mindestens 'parted /dev/sda set 1 esp on' oder so
[15:36] <frostschutz> legacy hatte ich mal hier beschrieben https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1575829#p1575829
[15:37] <xubuntu681> ähm....
[15:38] <frostschutz> und wenn du grub benutzt kannst du das mit 64s 2047s auch bei dir noch reinquetschen
[15:39] <frostschutz> ansonsten mach das was die in #ubuntu gerade sagen ;)
[15:41] <xubuntu681> werd ich machen weil ich zu blöd für das hier bin :D
[18:20] <smeexs> muss ich etwas vorbereiten wenn ich die grafikkarte tauschen möchte (amd gegen amd) ubuntu 14.04
[18:20] <frostschutz> smeexs, zumindest eine livecd / usbstick für den notfall, ansonsten eigentlich nicht
[18:20] <smeexs> kk
[19:01] <tessarakt2> ich hab vorgestern mein Notebook von 14.10 erst auf 15.04 und dann auf 15.10 geupgraded
[19:01] <tessarakt2> seitdem (schon mit 15.04) geht X nicht mehr
[19:01] <tessarakt2> weder mit gdm noch mit sddm
[19:01] <frostschutz> oh, schade. naja, textkonsole ist doch auch gut
[19:02] <tessarakt2> jein
[19:02] <frostschutz> fehlermeldungen bei startx?
[19:02] <frostschutz> fehlermeldungen in Xorg.0.log?
[19:02] <tessarakt2> sagen wir mal so, gibt es irgendwo eine Debugging-Anleitung?
[19:45] <FUZxxl> Hallo!
[19:45] <FUZxxl> Ich habe ein sehr komisches Problem.
[19:46] <FUZxxl> Ich wollte mich heute auf einem tty anmelden und bemerkte, dass sich die Umschalttaste wie die AltGr-Taste verhält.
[19:50] <FUZxxl> Jemand 'ne Idee, woran das liegen kann?
[19:56] <frostschutz> manche konfigurieren sich das mit absicht so, speziell für die capslock-taste
[20:12] <mrkramps> FUZxxl, was ist das für eine tastatur?
[20:16] <FUZxxl> mrkramps: die Tastatur meines Thinkpad T400
[20:16] <FUZxxl> im gnome-terminal und in der X-Sitzung generell funktioniert alles wie es soll
[20:18] <FUZxxl> frostschutz: ich habe da soweit ich mir bewusst bin nichts konfiguriert.
[20:18] <mrkramps> die ausgabe von 'cat /etc/default/keyboard' hätte ich gerne in einem pastebin
[20:19] <FUZxxl> Ein loadkeys de ändert auch nichts, erzeugt aber einige Fehlermeldungen “Keymap ###: Zugriff verweigert” für diverse ### bis 127
[20:20] <mrkramps> setxkbmap de
[20:20] <FUZxxl> mrkramps: Im X tritt das Problem nicht auf
[20:20] <ring0> alternativ könnte man auch mit "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" testen
[20:20] <mrkramps> hat mit x nichts zu tun
[20:20] <mrkramps> xkb wird auch auf tty verwendet
[20:21] <FUZxxl> mrkramps: http://fuz.su/~fuz/files/keyboard
[20:21] <FUZxxl> mrkramps: äh, nee
[20:22] <FUZxxl> also, denefally gibt setxkmap de folgendes erwartungsgemäß aus:
[20:22] <FUZxxl> Cannot open display "default display"
[20:22] <FUZxxl> s/denefally/jedenfalls/
[20:22] <mrkramps> sry, mein fehler
[20:23] <mrkramps> man könnte mal gegenprüfen, was den XKBVariant T3 wäre
[20:24] <FUZxxl> moment
[20:24] <FUZxxl> T3 ist dieses komische internationalle Layout
[20:24] <FUZxxl> das kann durchaus das Problem sein.
[20:24] <FUZxxl> Ich habe das mal auf “Deutsch” zurückgestellt.
[20:24] <FUZxxl> Mal sehen, ob das jetzt geht (nach Reboot)
[20:25] <FUZxxl> ah ja, es geht wieder. Danke!
[20:25] <FUZxxl> Wann habe ich das wohl verstellt...
[20:25] <mrkramps> passiert =D
[20:26] <FUZxxl> Vielen Dank nochmal.
[20:26] <mrkramps> gerne
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.940037
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-bugs
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[00:03] <psusi> could a release manager please approve my nomination for bug #1281588 to trusty?
[00:12] <hggdh> psusi: approved,thank you for your work on it
[00:13] <psusi> hggdh, thanks... question.. if I finally get off my duff and get upgraded from contributing developer to full developer, would these nominations still require someone else's approval?
[00:15] <hggdh> psusi: not sure, since it may depend on package sets you have under you. But, personally, I think an independent review is always good.
[00:16] <Meerkat> Hi I found a feature-adding patch/bug fix for rapidsvn that I verified still works. Where do I go to get this addition into Ubuntu?
[00:17] <psusi> hggdh, well, it seems that if I can go ahead and upload the fixed package myself, it seems silly that I need someone else to add the task to track it first ;)
[00:17] <hggdh> Meerkat: rapidsvn is in Universe. you can go to #ubuntu-motu, and work from there
[00:18] <hggdh> psusi: psusi yes, but SRUs have their own flow
[06:51] <Ethos> I would like to inform that, after flawlessly upgrading from 14.04 to 15.10. Ubuntu 15.10 constantly throws an error message, when it really suppose to show package update message. I know this how, because after updating using apt-get update and/or apt-get dist-upgrade the message disappears. -- Thanks. Rad
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.944414
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-gnome
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[00:00] <jamf> im not sure of about doing that, because ppa-purge says that have to delete/downgrade several packages
[00:01] <jamf> so my question is, what is the need of doing ppa-purge before do-release-upgrade?
[23:27] <Jamie_1> hey i need to make a boot partition on this computer, i am running gnome, when i installed for some odd reason it made the boot partition on the flash drive and i had just been using that to boot for the past month or two,
[23:27] <Jamie_1> now i lost the flash drive so i cant restart, i am on the computer now
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.946740
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-x
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[12:25] <ricotz> mamarley, hi, did you made progress with 358.09?
[12:45] <mamarley> ricotz: Last I checked, we were waiting on tseliot to come up with something to autoload the nvidia-modeset module.
[13:04] <ricotz> mamarley, is this module already in-use and actually needed?
[13:04] <mamarley> ricotz: Yes, it is needed. If it isn't loaded, you get a black screen when X tries to start.
[13:05] <ricotz> I still haven't installed it here and I didn't want to interfere with your work
[13:05] <mamarley> I would have tried to get some udev rule set up or something but I didn't want to interfere with tseliot.
[13:06] <ricotz> what is the output of "modprobe --show-depends nvidia_358" ?
[13:06] <mamarley> insmod /lib/modules/4.2.0-17-lowlatency/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/drm.ko
[13:06] <mamarley> insmod /lib/modules/4.2.0-17-lowlatency/updates/dkms/nvidia_358.ko
[13:09] <ricotz> ok
[15:17] <ricotz> mamarley, I am going to push 358.09 to the ppa
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.948714
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-server
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[00:00] <wiuempe> TJ-: yes, but i dont know how to debug this... ok, thanks for all
[00:00] <wiuempe> good night or day ;)
[07:13] <cynixx3> I think I have an .htaccess issue. mod_rewrite is loaded but does not look like its phrasing the information in .htaccess
[07:14] <cynixx3> Is there a way to test .htaccess
[09:12] <lordievader> Good morning.
[17:31] <ponyofdeath> hi, anyone here can help me with a problem when I am using inline shell config option in vagrant, I see my script behave differently then when running from within the vm
[18:02] <TJ-> ponyofdeath: probably a different set of environment variables, and shell options.
[18:04] <ponyofdeath> yeah trying to track this down
[18:04] <ponyofdeath> and am looking at the env vars but they seem the same
[18:04] <ponyofdeath> i dump env with the script
[18:04] <ponyofdeath> and when i actually do the login > scipt execution
[18:05] <ponyofdeath> seems that maby maven is having a problem when being called from inline vagrant call vs shell
[20:50] <jonah> hi does anyone know a simple and easy way to do a nightly backup of my ubuntu server to a NAS on my local network and have the backups compressed to save space? I've read about rsync, and bacula and all sorts but it all seems a lot of work?
[20:52] <cynixx3> Rsync is not too bad
[20:54] <Sling> jonah: what would you want to back up? what scenarios are you thinking of?
[20:54] <jonah> cynixx3: so i set up rsync with a cron? but would i also need to tar all the files up, then rsync the tar? I thought there might just be a linux command tool i could use that would simply let you backup "/" as source and output it as a bzip or tar etc to the nas with incemental filenames but only ever keep two backups etc
[20:54] <cynixx3> if your watching it I like rsync -a --progress /source/dir /destination/dir, then toss your command into cron (preferably by script.sh then cron) . automated backups done.
[20:54] <Sling> complete system restore or just specific locations
[20:55] <jonah> Sling: I just wanted to back the whole server, maybe a full backup each week and a nightly with incremental. i suppose i've been spoilt being used to cpanel and whm before which does this for you
[20:55] <jonah> Sling: I maybe wanted to just leave out some of the dirs that aren't really needed like tmp etc
[20:55] <cynixx3> jonah, you probably want to isolate your configs and home directory for backup. Your entire server will not backup well like that.
[20:55] <jonah> Sling: i have a raid array set up for redundancy but it's not great without a backup going on too...
[20:56] <Sling> yeah raid is definitely not backup
[20:56] <Sling> delete a file, and your raid makes sure its deleted everywhere :)
[20:56] <jonah> cynixx3: well my thought was if my raid fails, i could rebuild it and just restore the whole thing rather than having to reinstall ubuntu etc and try copy home back and then restore configs and stuff
[20:57] <Sling> raid protects you against some hardware failures
[20:57] <jonah> Sling: yeah!
[20:57] <Sling> I'd backup your /etc /home /root and maybe some custom locations, so you can restore from a bare ubuntu setup
[20:57] <jonah> Sling: isn't there anything already designed to just do a weekly and nightly backup out there to make things easy?
[20:57] <Sling> maybe some additional information such as a dkpg -l
[20:57] <Sling> jonah: not terribly plenty if you don't want to pay
[20:57] <Sling> bacula is one of them
[20:58] <cynixx3> jonah, making a backup system is really a good way to learn linux
[20:58] <jonah> Sling: i did look at bacula but didn't really get it. do you have to install bacula on the NAS too??
[20:58] <Sling> jonah: bacula is not trivial to set up
[20:58] <Sling> its comprised of several daemons and mainly built around the concepts of backup tapes
[20:59] <jonah> cynixx3: I know and it's not that I lack a want to learn or dislike going to a lot of effort, but I just thought something simple and convenient might be out there. The less complex it is then hopefully the less likely I am to do it wrong!
[20:59] <Sling> i personally have a script that compresses certain filesystem locations (full once per week, incremental daily), encrypts it, and the throws it to some cloud service like mega.nz
[21:00] <Sling> built around a cli-wrapper for said cloud service
[21:00] <cynixx3> I do something similar with local and remote system with just a bash script.
[21:00] <Sling> but if you want to back up more than a few gb you will probably not be able to do that for free
[21:01] <cynixx3> Sling, while your here are you able to help with a mod_rewrite issue I am working on?
[21:01] <Sling> sure
[21:01] <cynixx3> I need aaa/bbb/ccc/ to show that but be phrased as aaa/index.php?/bbb/ccc Right now all I get is /aaa/bbb/ccc http://pastebin.com/iiD8E9zG
[21:02] <cynixx3> jonah, if you are up for it I will help you get the backup script working today.
[21:02] <Sling> cynixx3: why not use FallbackResource to make all requests to non-existing locations be sent to your index.php?
[21:02] <Sling> you can then use the original uri to route the request in your php script
[21:03] <jonah> cynixx3: ok cool lets try it. though my server potentially will hold over 1tb of data if that matters?
[21:03] <jonah> cynixx3: currently it is pretty new and empty though!
[21:03] <cynixx3> Sling, I attempted that without luck. I am copying an old script from centos to ubuntu-server written by someone else and had it working on centos. I really rather not have to learn their code and fix it.
[21:03] <cynixx3> brb baby cries.
[21:04] <jonah> cynixx3: basically it is on ip 192.168.0.100 and I have a nas using 192.160.0.2 - and my plan was to somehow just sftp or ssh the data over
[21:04] <jonah> cynixx3: bottle time?
[21:05] <bekks> jonah: And whats the issue with accessing your NAS?
[21:07] <jonah> bekks: just trying to backup my server each night with maybe a full backup each week to the nas, just not sure the best way or how!
[21:07] <bekks> !backup | jonah
[21:13] <cynixx3> jonah, were those resources helpful to you?
[21:14] <jonah> cynixx3: yes but i think i've looked over some of that stuff already...
[21:15] <cynixx3> okay, start by making a backup directory and a shell script to run your backups.
[21:15] <jonah> cynixx3: well i've already made a backup directory on the nas simply called backup
[21:18] <cynixx3> okay, where are you storing the tars before transferring them to nas?
[21:19] <jonah> cynixx3: so do i have to tar the files before i can copy them to nas? as what happens when the server is say 3/4 full and then it has to try tar everything in the last 1/4?
[21:20] <cynixx3> jonah, I am just going off of what you said. You said you wanted to copy and tar before transferring. IF the server is 3/4 full and you try to back it up then the backup will fail.
[21:21] <jonah> cynixx3: ah ok. no i only ask just because i wondered if there is a way to backup straight to a tar?
[21:22] <cynixx3> It would depend on if and how the NAS is mounted.
[21:23] <bekks> jonah: did you read the links given yet?
[21:24] <jonah> cynixx3: ok so it can just be compressed straight over some how?
[21:24] <jonah> bekks: yes had a quick flick through but still unsure what the best way to go is
[21:28] <bekks> jonah: There are totally different methods of crating a backup. tar is just one of them. And not necessarily the best method for your use case.
[21:30] <JanC> there are about 50 rsync-based backup solutions :)
[21:30] <JanC> or maybe 500
[21:30] <bekks> And about some twenty other backup solutions :)
[21:32] <jonah> ok thanks i'll go do more reading!
[21:32] <cynixx3> bekks, I need help with a mod_rewrite rule if you know anything. I need aaa/bbb/ccc/ to show that but be phrased as aaa/index.php?/bbb/ccc Right now all I get is /aaa/bbb/ccc http://pastebin.com/iiD8E9zG
[21:32] <cynixx3> If I try the fallbackresource then all I get is the homepage and can not do anything on the site. and I really dont want to recode this platform.
[22:43] <jak2000> why: jak@swManzana:~/ftp$ ping 8.8.8.8 i get an answer PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data. wich is bad? gateway? or? thanks
[22:49] <JanC> jak2000: you mean that line is the only thing you get, or?
[22:53] <jak2000> forget paste: From 172.16.11.1 icmp_seq=1 Destination Net Unreachable
[22:56] <JanC> that's a private network IP address?
[22:58] <JanC> you can try to ping the gateway
[22:59] <Seveas> the device on 172.16.11.1 doesn't have a route to 8.8.8.8. Try fixing that :)
[23:14] <jak2000> JanC escuse, me yes i can ping to gw
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[04:03] <jabuk> M 1.1 > 6.km JZ od BREŽIC @07/11/2015 04:48:51 https://maps.google.com/?q=45.86+N,+15.56+E
[08:00] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie we be riding?
[08:14] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: aye
[08:29] <CrazyLemon> .vreme koper
[08:29] <jabuk> ARSO: Koper Kapitanija (4m): 12.7°C @07.11.2015 8:00 UTC.
[08:29] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 66% vzhodnik 2.2 m/s (7.9 km/h)
[08:29] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 05:53:39, Kulminacija: 10:50:02, Sončni zahod: 15:46:26
[08:29] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 52min 46s, Luna je v ščipu
[08:29] <CrazyLemon> .vreme celje
[08:29] <jabuk> ARSO: Celje (244m): 7°C @07.11.2015 8:00 UTC.
[08:29] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 90% vzhodnik 0.9 m/s (3.2 km/h)
[08:29] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 05:49:10, Kulminacija: 10:43:53, Sončni zahod: 15:38:37
[08:29] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 49min 28s, Luna je v ščipu
[08:31] <pitastrudl> jutro
[08:31] <pitastrudl> .vreme lj
[08:31] <jabuk> ARSO: Ljubljana (299m): 3.8°C @07.11.2015 8:00 UTC.
[08:31] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 100% severnik 0.3 m/s (1.1 km/h)
[08:31] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 05:51:44, Kulminacija: 10:46:54, Sončni zahod: 15:42:04
[08:31] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 50min 20s, Luna je v ščipu
[08:31] <pitastrudl> rip
[08:31] <pitastrudl> .vreme skofja loka
[08:31] <jabuk> ARSO: Pasja ravan (1020m): 14.2°C @07.11.2015 8:20 UTC.
[08:31] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 42% jugozahodnik 0.64 m/s (2.3 km/h)
[08:31] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 05:52:50, Kulminacija: 10:47:44, Sončni zahod: 15:42:39
[08:31] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 49min 49s, Luna je v ščipu
[08:31] <pitastrudl> lol
[08:31] <CrazyLemon> sej si se mi zdel pasji!
[08:32] <CrazyLemon> but damn man.. 14° @ 1km
[08:32] <CrazyLemon> .vreme rogla
[08:32] <jabuk> ARSO: Slovenj Gradec (455m): 4°C @07.11.2015 8:00 UTC.
[08:32] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 98%
[08:32] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 05:49:21, Kulminacija: 10:43:34, Sončni zahod: 15:37:47
[08:32] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 48min 26s, Luna je v ščipu
[08:32] <CrazyLemon> .vreme pokljuka
[08:32] <jabuk> ARSO: Bohinjska Češnjica (596.3m): 4.8°C @07.11.2015 8:20 UTC.
[08:32] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 97%
[08:32] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 05:54:25, Kulminacija: 10:48:51, Sončni zahod: 15:43:17
[08:32] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 48min 52s, Luna je v ščipu
[08:32] <CrazyLemon> .vreme kredarica
[08:32] <jabuk> ARSO: Kredarica (2514m): 4.6°C @07.11.2015 8:20 UTC.
[08:32] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 35% severozahodnik 8.12 m/s (29.2 km/h)
[08:32] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 05:55:11, Kulminacija: 10:49:34, Sončni zahod: 15:43:56
[08:32] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 48min 45s, Luna je v ščipu
[08:34] <pitastrudl> kek
[08:37] <Sky[x]> .vreme piran
[08:37] <jabuk> ARSO: Koper Kapitanija (4m): 12.7°C @07.11.2015 8:00 UTC.
[08:37] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 66% vzhodnik 2.2 m/s (7.9 km/h)
[08:37] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 05:54:15, Kulminacija: 10:50:41, Sončni zahod: 15:47:07
[08:37] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 52min 52s, Luna je v ščipu
[08:38] <CrazyLemon> o
[08:38] <CrazyLemon> o/
[08:38] <zdobbie> .vreme Celje
[08:38] <jabuk> ARSO: Celje (244m): 7°C @07.11.2015 8:00 UTC.
[08:38] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 90% vzhodnik 0.9 m/s (3.2 km/h)
[08:38] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 05:49:10, Kulminacija: 10:43:53, Sončni zahod: 15:38:37
[08:38] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 49min 28s, Luna je v ščipu
[09:07] <netkat> https://twitter.com/brokep :D
[09:07] <Pepelka> Peter Sunde (@brokep) | Twitter
[09:07] <Pepelka> »Die neuesten Tweets von Peter Sunde (@brokep). (co-/)founder of @Flattr, @IpredatorVPN, @TPBdotORG, @KonstHack etc etc. Socialist, vegetarian, finnish & norwegian. Internets«
[10:28] <yang> CrazyLemon: dobi sem se eno drugo omako od flying goose
[10:28] <yang> k ni sriracha, ampak je samo chili sauce, ceprav bolj mal pikanten
[10:29] <yang> pa reku sem lastnici naj mi sriracko z rdecim pokrovcom naroci
[10:33] <msev-> kje to a v kšni kitajski al kko :D
[10:47] <msev-> a ma kdo od vs rootan fon, da mi lahko s titanium backupom kšne appe kot apk-je backupira?
[11:10] <yang> tajska trgovina
[11:11] <yang> https://i.imgur.com/kzxGEKm.gifv
[12:30] <zdobbie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjaZNYSt7o0
[12:30] <Pepelka> "Russian Unicorn" — a bad lip reading of Michael Bublé - YouTube
[12:30] <Pepelka> »iTUNES LINK: http://tinyurl.com/5smbl8a Original video here: http://tinyurl.com/ybs4wqq If that link is blocked, try this one: http://youtu.be/gcF9ICgLqi4 Wa...«
[12:34] <matjaz> msev-: za apkje shranjevat ne rabiš roota
[12:34] <matjaz> maš en app, Apk Extractor
[13:47] <zdobbie> .stran google.com
[13:47] <jabuk> google.com je dosegljiva!
[13:47] <zdobbie> .stran arstechnica.com
[13:47] <jabuk> arstechnica.com ni dosegljiva
[13:47] <zdobbie> :?
[13:50] <netkat> sej je o.O
[14:00] <zdobbie> :?
[14:00] <zdobbie> .stran arstechnica.com
[14:00] <jabuk> arstechnica.com ni dosegljiva
[14:00] <zdobbie> HELLO FROM THE OTHER SIDEEEE
[14:01] <netkat> pa res:D
[14:02] <netkat> se en ddos? k je zgleda moda
[14:02] <dz0ny> netkat: it'f fun today
[14:03] <dz0ny> http://i.imgur.com/EH41oTK.png
[14:03] <dz0ny> 90% traffica sam to :D
[14:03] <netkat> eh skoda:D
[14:05] <dz0ny> ars je tud wp se mi zdi
[14:05] <zdobbie> zdej dela
[14:05] <dz0ny> me ne
[14:05] <dz0ny> sploh ne resolva
[14:05] <zdobbie> am I lucky or what
[14:06] <zdobbie> v glavnem
[14:06] <netkat> men tud zdej dela
[14:06] <netkat> jp zgleda d je wp
[14:06] <zdobbie> nekje sem prebral, da WordPress poganja 25% spleta
[14:06] <zdobbie> ja, na Ars Technici
[14:06] <dz0ny> men dela pa http://arstechnica.co.uk/
[14:06] <Pepelka> Ars Technica UK
[14:06] <Pepelka> »Serving the Technologist for more than a decade. IT news, reviews, and analysis.«
[14:08] <zdobbie> hja, to je isti sistem
[14:08] <zdobbie> but in British pounds
[14:09] <dz0ny> lol http://i.imgur.com/Pq85r00.png
[14:09] <dz0ny> dfk je to danes
[14:09] <dz0ny> k da so vsi kitajci pogruntal da obstaja request.multicall
[14:13] <netkat> hehe cak se indijce
[14:40] <pitastrudl> zdobbie: how are your memes today
[14:41] <zdobbie> pitastrudl: danker than ever
[14:43] <pitastrudl> WOOO
[14:43] * pitastrudl cues john cena theme song
[14:43] <zdobbie> MY TIME IS UP
[14:43] <zdobbie> MY TIME IS NOW
[14:44] <zdobbie> YOUR* TIME IS UP
[14:46] <zdobbie> pitastrudl: tko pac je, drugace na tem kanalu ostanejo samo se sive brade
[14:57] <CrazyLemon> Thank you for sharing this information. I understand what you are saying but if you are doing a search for "google lp" seeing that "lp" is the command word for omnibox, perhaps doing a switch in word placement should address your issue. That is "google lp", it should have the same effect as your prior search. I hope this helps in some way.
[14:57] <CrazyLemon> odgovor lastpassa
[15:09] <pitastrudl> CrazyLemon: in tem ljudem zaupaš vsa svoja gesla
[15:09] <pitastrudl> topkek
[15:24] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl ne zaupam jih gesla..zaupam jim encrypted gesla
[16:12] <msev-> tnx matjaz škoda da nism že prej vedel da se to da, k je lih en dev zj breakov en app :/
[16:14] <CrazyLemon> msev- adb pull /kjerkoli/je/pac.apk
[16:14] <msev-> ja
[16:15] <msev-> sam zj je napačna verzija :D
[16:15] <msev-> novejša
[16:15] <CrazyLemon> kakšna verzija.. adb doesnt care man..it does not care!
[16:23] <msev-> dont get it
[16:23] <msev-> nerabm sam nekga handla do neke aplikacije (najnovejše), ampak točno določeno verzijo appa npr. k backupiram, če ga dev v naslednji verziji breaka
[17:12] <CrazyLemon> msev- jah pol pa uporabi apk mirror pa zdownloadaj želeno verzijo :)
[18:18] <msev-> ni
[18:24] <CrazyLemon> kaj ni
[18:24] <pitastrudl> ja ni ane
[18:24] <CrazyLemon> http://www.apkmirror.com/page/3/?s=titanium&post_type=apps_post od 21.1.2015 naprej je
[18:24] <Pepelka> You searched for titanium - Page 3 of 3 - APKMirror
[18:30] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oacYRWXvEo4
[18:30] <Pepelka> Anonymous's KKK Hack - YouTube
[18:30] <Pepelka> »A group of office workers discover that one of their own is a member of an infamous hate organization. The Comedy Central app has full episodes of your favor...«
[18:37] <netkat> even your numbers are rasist:D ta dump ne? https://twitter.com/OperationKKK/status/662380844711972865
[18:37] <Pepelka> Operation KKK auf Twitter: "OFFICIAL #OpKKK #HoodsOff 2015 Data Release. https://t.co/EQODjs7wpA With Love, Anonymous"
[18:40] <netkat> ups, sm falu Ben made an awkward, brief appearance in our release. He should not have been listed. We were surprised, as well...
[18:43] <msev-> ne za titanium CrazyLemon
[18:43] <msev-> gre za eno iz nabora čudnih appov :D -> ADS-B on android
[18:44] <idioterna> ads-b?
[18:44] <idioterna> s cim pa zajemas?
[18:44] <msev-> rtlsdr donglom
[18:44] <idioterna> aha zanimiv
[18:44] <msev-> jp :)
[18:45] <msev-> sj drgač mam tut na linuxu pa na windowsu, sam kul je met na fonu za portabilnost :D
[18:46] <idioterna> a se velik s tem ukvarjas
[18:48] <msev-> ne :D
[18:49] <msev-> pa za AIS mam tut naštiman k je pa ubistvu sledenje velikim ladjam
[18:49] <msev-> sam za to pa ni app-a na fonu
[18:49] <msev-> drgač se pa da tut satelitske slike dobit iz meteosatelitov direkt sam tist je bl zajeban
[18:49] <msev-> pa rabš nek ojačevalec signala
[18:50] <idioterna> mhm
[18:50] <msev-> a si ti slučajn radioamater
[18:50] <idioterna> ne se
[18:51] <CrazyLemon> sedaj je radiorekreativec.. kmalu pa bo radioamater
[18:51] <msev-> haha
[18:52] <msev-> https://github.com/MalcolmRobb/dump1090 tole lah za adsb uporablaš
[18:52] <Pepelka> MalcolmRobb/dump1090 · GitHub
[18:52] <Pepelka> »dump1090 - Dump1090 is a simple Mode S decoder for RTLSDR devices«
[18:52] <msev-> tale je tut ql http://www.rtl-sdr.com/adsbox-new-ads-b-decoding-software-for-linux/
[18:52] <Pepelka> ADSBox: New ADS-B Decoding Software for Linux - rtl-sdr.com
[18:52] <Pepelka> »Recently Roman, a programmer and reader of RTL-SDR.com wrote in to let us know about his ADSBox software which is a free opensource Linux based ADS-B decoder (page in Russian, use Google Translate) with several interesting features. ADSBox contains a decoder and a nice web interface which allows you to view flight information in a table or in …«
[18:56] <CrazyLemon> in kaj je tako zanimivega ko veš položaj 'velike' ladje? :D
[18:56] <idioterna> jah
[18:56] <idioterna> http://www.amazon.com/Avoid-Huge-Ships-John-Trimmer/dp/0870334336
[18:56] <Pepelka> How to Avoid Huge Ships: John W. Trimmer: 9780870334337: Amazon.com: Books
[18:56] <idioterna> pomaga!
[18:56] <Pepelka> »How to Avoid Huge Ships [John W. Trimmer] on Amazon.com. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. 1993 paperback book on how to avoid huge ships.99 pages with instructions, diagrams and charts. last page has drawing drawn on it. otherwise«
[18:56] <CrazyLemon> just stear left?
[18:57] <CrazyLemon> oziroma a ima kdo narejen izpit za vožnjo čolna?
[18:57] <CrazyLemon> kakšno je sploh pravilo..a greš na levo ali desno stran ko se srečaš na morju
[18:59] <msev-> dunno :D zanimiv mi je da kr oddajajo neke signale ti jih pa lahko z enmu 15usd usb deviceom zaznavaš
[19:01] <CrazyLemon> msev- a ne obstaja page kjer lahko prečekiraš položaj vseh ladij/čolnov?
[19:01] <msev-> obstaja
[19:02] <msev-> sam je kul da loh standalone to nardiš, kaj če grejo interwebz u maloro (tinfoil hat)
[19:02] <msev-> nerabš sploh internetne povezave za to :D
[19:03] <CrazyLemon> ja..ampak to je useful samo tebi :D
[19:05] <msev-> I kno'
[19:06] <msev-> no pa unim k majo čolne, jahte, jadrnice tut
[19:06] <msev-> je pa to esencialn pripomočk
[19:06] <CrazyLemon> poln esence?
[19:06] <CrazyLemon> :p
[19:09] <msev-> poln kitajske esence
[19:09] <msev-> :D
[19:10] <msev-> torej Hg
[19:10] <msev-> :D
[19:11] <msev-> aja pa še neki uporabnga
[19:11] <msev-> z rtlsdr-donglom prkloplenim na fon lah poslušaš FM radio, četudi fon nima radia sicer
[19:16] <CrazyLemon> to pa je prednost!
[19:17] <CrazyLemon> FM radio ftw!
[19:22] <msev-> not sure if ur serious or trolling
[19:23] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIhWM90SO20
[19:23] <Pepelka> Grim Reaper - Scare Prank (Rémi Gaillard) - YouTube
[19:23] <Pepelka> »Rémi Gaillard is world famous for his dangerously funny videos. Unafraid of controversy, he has challenged the norms and expectations of online video with hi...«
[19:23] <CrazyLemon> trolling
[19:24] <msev-> a pol ti fon uporablaš za iste zadeve kt 99% ostalih ljudi? :D
[19:24] <msev-> a maš tut kšn edge use case
[19:25] <CrazyLemon> v bistvu ne uporabljam ga kt 99% ostalih ljudi
[19:25] <CrazyLemon> ker ga hm.. tam nekje 8h na teden (recimo ta teden) uporabljam za gps logging :)
[19:58] <anny_> Dan
[19:58] <anny_> Cer
[20:08] <pitastrudl> dan
[20:08] <pitastrudl> ČER
[20:08] <pitastrudl> ¯\(°_o)/¯
[20:14] <CrazyLemon> Čer
[20:14] <CrazyLemon> Dan
[20:14] <CrazyLemon> jutro!
[20:15] <pitastrudl> dobro polnoč
[20:23] <CrazyLemon> http://www.twitch.tv/insurgencygame
[20:23] <Pepelka> Twitch
[20:23] <idioterna> CrazyLemon: prit na udba.org
[20:23] <idioterna> pass je hehe
[20:23] <CrazyLemon> idioterna pass?
[20:23] <CrazyLemon> ni passa sam countdown
[20:24] <idioterna> password
[20:24] <idioterna> aja ne v insurgency
[20:24] <idioterna> sm mislu
[20:24] <CrazyLemon> idioterna aja lol
[20:24] * CrazyLemon najprej šel na https://udba.org nato še na #udba.org
[20:24] <idioterna> hehe
[20:25] <CrazyLemon> idioterna a ste pravkar v gameu?
[20:30] <idioterna> ja lih so poquital vsi
[20:30] <idioterna> mogoce so slisal da sm na irc tipku :)
[20:30] <idioterna> loh ti napisem ko bomo zacenjal
[20:31] <CrazyLemon> idioterna meh!
[20:33] <CrazyLemon> kako se doda server pod favorites
[20:34] <CrazyLemon> nvm
[20:45] <idioterna> ne vem
[20:50] <Sky[x]> o cem vi to?
[20:57] <idioterna> insurgency
[21:11] <pitastrudl> kek
[21:28] <matjaz> longshot, ampak a ma kdo mogoče povabilo za what.cd? :)
[21:41] <pitastrudl> imam what.cd
[21:41] <pitastrudl> :)
[21:41] <pitastrudl> sec da vidim
[21:42] <pitastrudl> woop woop im in
[21:43] <matjaz> im in as in imaš povabilo? :D
[21:43] <pitastrudl> sry brah, no :(
[21:43] <matjaz> dayuuum
[21:43] <matjaz> tnx vseen :)
[21:43] <pitastrudl> np
[21:44] <matjaz> iščem francoske šansone, pogledaš če sploh imajo? :)
[21:44] <pitastrudl> povej točne keyworde kaj nej išče
[21:44] <pitastrudl> iščem
[21:44] <matjaz> french chansons
[21:44] <matjaz> chansons
[21:44] <matjaz> :D
[21:44] <pitastrudl> fak ta stran je tok šit
[21:45] <pitastrudl> še zadet je nemorš uporablat
[21:45] <matjaz> vem ja, je bil oink isti
[21:46] <pitastrudl> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/cc8067f3e7cc45f5204e
[21:46] <Pepelka> gist:cc8067f3e7cc45f5204e · GitHub
[21:46] <pitastrudl> neki je najdl ja
[21:46] <pitastrudl> kerga zloudam
[21:46] <pitastrudl> matjaz:
[21:47] <matjaz> Chansons et Danceries: French Renaissance Wind Music
[21:47] <matjaz> če lahko
[21:47] <matjaz> :)
[21:47] <matjaz> a ma 0 seedov?
[21:48] <pitastrudl> vsi majo 0 seedov :D
[21:48] <pitastrudl> lol
[21:48] <pitastrudl> bomo vidl če bo
[21:49] <CrazyLemon> če so pa šansoni :D
[21:49] <pitastrudl> haha
[21:49] <matjaz> ja sej vem, zato pa iščem what.cd, sem mislil da bo kaj boljš :D
[21:49] <matjaz> povsod je tko
[21:49] <pitastrudl> sem dal loudat
[21:50] <matjaz> kul, tnx
[21:51] <pitastrudl> bomo vidl če bo kej
[21:58] <msev-> CrazyLemon, zakaj pa tok logiraš :D
[22:12] <CrazyLemon> msev- ko sm na kolesu an'!
[22:13] <msev-> a po 8 ur na dan si na kolesu
[22:13] <msev-> woot
[22:13] <msev-> a si pro-kolesar tekmovalec?
[22:13] <msev-> aja ne na teden
[22:13] <msev-> aha
[22:13] <msev-> ja no sj to pa dela kr dost ljudi da loggira športne aktivnosti :D
[22:21] <lynxlynxlynx> matjaz: ni najboljši keyword, ker chanson=pesem, dobesedno
[22:22] <matjaz> lynxlynxlynx: TIL! tnx, bom probaval še po izvajalcih
[22:33] <CrazyLemon> a se komu insurgency ponastavi video nastavitve vsake X časa?
[23:21] <upd> .potresi
[23:21] <jabuk> M 1.1 > 6.km JZ od BREŽIC @07/11/2015 04:48:51 https://maps.google.com/?q=45.86+N,+15.55+E
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.972989
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"CrazyLemon",
"Pepelka",
"Sky[x]",
"anny_",
"dz0ny",
"idioterna",
"jabuk",
"lynxlynxlynx",
"matjaz",
"msev-",
"netkat",
"pitastrudl",
"upd",
"yang",
"zdobbie"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/07/%23ubuntu-si.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-si"
}
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-africa
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[09:52] <Kilos> hellooooo africa
[11:16] * inetpro echos another, "hellooooo africa"!
[11:38] <Kilos> hehe
[11:38] <Kilos> hi inetpro
[11:38] <Kilos> you early for a saterday
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.975605
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{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Kilos",
"inetpro"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/07/%23ubuntu-africa.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-africa"
}
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-vn
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[16:11] <CorncobCrab> interesting
[16:11] * CorncobCrab pokes mitz
[16:34] <vubuntor295> dung
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.976141
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{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"CorncobCrab",
"vubuntor295"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/07/%23ubuntu-vn.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-vn"
}
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2015-11-07-#juju-dev
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[00:06] <katco> natefinch: https://github.com/juju/version
[00:08] <natefinch> katco: thanks!
[00:41] <mup> Bug #1513468 changed: imports github.com/juju/juju/payload/api/internal/client: use of internal package not allowed <blocker> <ci> <regression> <testing> <wily> <juju-core:Invalid> <juju-core 1.25:Fix Released> <juju-core feature-payloads:Won't Fix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513468>
[00:44] <mup> Bug #1513468 opened: imports github.com/juju/juju/payload/api/internal/client: use of internal package not allowed <blocker> <ci> <regression> <testing> <wily> <juju-core:Invalid> <juju-core 1.25:Fix Released> <juju-core feature-payloads:Won't Fix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513468>
[00:47] <mup> Bug #1513468 changed: imports github.com/juju/juju/payload/api/internal/client: use of internal package not allowed <blocker> <ci> <regression> <testing> <wily> <juju-core:Invalid> <juju-core 1.25:Fix Released> <juju-core feature-payloads:Won't Fix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513468>
[01:59] <natefinch> never read the comments
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.978566
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"katco",
"mup",
"natefinch"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/07/%23juju-dev.txt",
"channel": "#juju-dev"
}
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-website
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[10:56] <DoctorD90> devs??? :) are you there? :)
[14:05] <bbrawner> Hi everyone, I'm looking to get involved. Where should I begin?
[14:05] <bbrawner> I currently work as a web developer, using primarily php and javascript (mostly jquery) but I do occasionally use some python and ruby
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.980202
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{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"DoctorD90",
"bbrawner"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/07/%23ubuntu-website.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-website"
}
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-au
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[15:16] <mrtesty> Anyone from AU here? I need your help to get a VPN offer kindly help me, PM me the tokens please, I cannot afford it, thanks
[15:16] <mrtesty> https://twitter.com/cryptostorm_is/status/656970807093108736
[15:16] <mrtesty> see this ^
[15:17] <mrtesty> Anyone from AU here? I need your help to get a VPN offer kindly help me, PM me the tokens please, I cannot afford it, thanks link - https://twitter.com/cryptostorm_is/status/656970807093108736
[23:33] <jea> i don't think that person is going to get much help from us
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:32.981379
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"jea",
"mrtesty"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/07/%23ubuntu-au.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-au"
}
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-touch
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[01:19] <br01> hi guys, I am pretty fascinated by ubuntu touch and I wanted to try it, but my tablet isn't included in the supported devices, I have asus memo pad 7.. Is there any comping support for other devices ? thank you in advance
[04:37] <vishnudev> Hi guys
[04:38] <vishnudev> I've compiled kernel for nexus 6 after modifications related to ubuntu (as per the porting wiki)
[04:39] <vishnudev> But I am not able to boot android with that kernel
[04:39] <vishnudev> Is that normal?
[09:13] <waressearcher2> what with that google intention to make its own chips for android phones ? will it benefit ubuntu phones as well ?
[09:13] <waressearcher2> also does ubuntu phone depends on android's phones progress ?
[10:11] <drwd> Hello guys I have a question, I want to use key wifi hexadecimal on ubuntu phone but I can not use it.
[10:12] <drwd> The Ubuntu Phone ask me again the key
[10:13] <drwd> Is it a bug or the hardware does not support?
[12:00] <Elleo> kenvandine: seen this? could be very handy for more native content-hub support in GTK apps: https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2015/11/05/native-file-choosers-in-gtk/
[13:28] <meles> When I create a new emulator in ubuntu-sdk with i386 and the channel bq-rc Ubuntu 14.10 r19 is installed. Why?
[13:49] <meles> actually the above question came up because i couldn't get it working with arm. I get the following error: /lib/init/init-d-script: 12: /etc/rc2.d/S02whoopsie: -c: not found
[13:49] <meles> basename: missing operand
[13:49] <meles> Try 'basename --help' for more information.
[14:13] <peat-psuwit> Does Ubuntu touch have any hook for time change?
[14:15] <jpastore> Hi I just bought a new aquaris e5, did an update and now some icons are missing. Is there a way for me to do a fresh install or update?
[15:43] <stakewinner00_> what is PayUI?
[15:56] <New-be> hello
[15:58] <popey> stakewinner00_, "Pay User Interface" (for paying for things)
[15:59] <stakewinner00_> popey, it's really needed or I can uninstall it?
[15:59] <popey> Depends, if you ever want to buy something from the store.
[15:59] <popey> Or in app purchases.
[15:59] <popey> ( I think)
[15:59] <popey> I personally wouldn't remove it.
[16:01] <stakewinner00_> i tried, but seems it cannot be removed... Anyway, if it's an official app, it's everything alright
[16:48] <jpastore> Hi I just bought a new aquaris e5, did an update and now some icons are missing. Is there a way for me to do a fresh install or update?
[17:11] <peat-psuwit> Does Ubuntu touch have any hook for time change?
[17:41] <mcphail> jpastore: I wonder if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-app-launch/+bug/1437355 has resurfaced?
[17:53] <meles> can somebody help me what to do when ubuntu-emulator fails with /lib/init/init-d-script: 12: /etc/rc2.d/S02whoopsie: -c: not found; basename: missing operand
[18:21] <khod> Hey kenvandine is everything in box2d supported in bacon2d?
[20:57] <taiebot> Hi all just a question regarding phone writable and silo installation if i reflash my phone everything will be reset?
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| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Elleo",
"New-be",
"br01",
"drwd",
"jpastore",
"khod",
"mcphail",
"meles",
"peat-psuwit",
"popey",
"stakewinner00_",
"taiebot",
"vishnudev",
"waressearcher2"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/07/%23ubuntu-touch.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-touch"
}
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-ko
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[02:45] <beakya> 아무나 질문에 답변 가능하신분 계십니까?
[03:11] <commania> 네?
[04:57] <crixer> 아 이게 putty라그런가
[04:57] <crixer> qemu가 제대로 안되는건가..
[04:57] <crixer> 버그가안고쳐져요 ㅠㅠㅠ
[04:57] <autowiz> 유불입니다 ㅋㅋㅋ
[04:58] <crixer> vmware에 우분투깔아서 해봐야겠음요 ...ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[04:58] <crixer> 흠
[05:10] <hungrydragon> 안녕하세요
[07:29] <DarkCircle> 최근 드는 생각인데 IRC 이용 규칙에 안내문 하나를 더 추가해야 할 것 같네요.
[07:30] <DarkCircle> 봇이 박혀있는 채팅창이 아니기 때문에 질문에 대한 응답은 오래걸릴 수도 있고 없을수도 있다고.
[07:41] <HolyKnight> ㅇㅅㅇ
[07:47] <jason__> 아마, 그 안내는 IRC 기본 에티켓(매너)라서...간과한 듯 ^^
[07:47] <jason__> 예전엔 우리 안내에서도 봤는데, 지웠나? ㅎ
[07:48] <jason__> 예전엔 우리 안내에서도 본 것 같은데, 지웠나? ㅎ
[08:37] <autowiz> 기본인데 모르는 사람이 많으니 적는것도 괜찮을것도 같네요 ㅎㅎ
[08:38] <DarkCircle> 다른 채팅방이면 "대부분의 정상적"인 사람의 시각에서는 "안녕하세요" 라고 하면 최소한 몇분내에 답이 오는게 맞겠죠.
[08:39] <DarkCircle> 물론 다짜고짜 질문이 들어오더라도 반응을 하는게 맞다고 생각할거고 .
[08:40] <DarkCircle> 하지만 이용 규칙에는 "당신이 당연하다고 생각하는 것"은 틀렸다. 라고 언급해주는게 맞을 것 같네요.
[08:41] <DarkCircle> "다양성"의 관점에서 말이죠.
[08:43] <DarkCircle> 써니옹 안계시니 무의미하려나 (...)
[09:43] <DarkCircle> libcheesekun_so, Segmentation fault.
[09:49] <libcheesekun_so> DarkCircle: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[09:49] <libcheesekun_so> X(
[09:49] <DarkCircle> -0-
[09:51] <libcheesekun_so> o _O)b!
[09:52] <libcheesekun_so> 즐거운 주말이에요!
[09:52] <libcheesekun_so> 😆
[09:52] <DarkCircle> 전 흐물흐물한 주말.
[09:52] <HolyKnight> ㅎㅇㅇ
[09:52] <DarkCircle> 비와서 _-_
[09:53] <DarkCircle> ㅎㅇ~(~_~)~ㅎㅇ
[09:53] <libcheesekun_so> ~ _~)/
[10:00] <DarkCircle> 헐 동적라이브러리에서 정적 라이브러리로 -ㅅ- ...
[10:01] <DarkCircle> Error: libcheesekun_so is not found.
[10:02] <libcheesekun_so> 앗! =3
[10:10] <DarkCircle> =3
[10:27] <ipeter> 안녕하세요?
[10:27] <ipeter> 출근했습니다.
[10:28] <ipeter> 빅데이터 교육 받구요
[11:04] <ipeter> 피체로님!
[11:04] <pchero> 안녕하세요. :)
[11:55] <HolyKnight> http://m.blog.naver.com/kickthebaby/220531769792
[12:09] <ipeter> ㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[12:09] <ipeter> ㅋㅋㅋ
[12:13] <crixer> 엥 저녁인데 출근하셨어요/
[12:13] <ipeter> 네.
[12:13] <ipeter> 교육받고 그냥 학교로 왔어요
[12:16] <crixer> 어디서 일하세요??
[12:17] <crixer> 학교에서 일하세요??
[16:33] <PotatoGim> 안녕하세요~
[16:34] <autowiz> 아이고 새벽에 어인일로 ㅠㅠ
[16:34] <PotatoGim> ...저희 새벽반 아니었나요? ㅎㅎ
[16:35] <HolyKnight> http://mlbpark.donga.com/mbs/articleV.php?mbsC=bullpen2&mbsIdx=3647286&cpage=1
[16:35] <autowiz> ㅎㅎㅎ 그래도 주말이니까능 하긴 저희가 언제 주말이라고 새벽에 안온적은 별로 없었던거 같네요 ㅎㅎ
[16:39] <PotatoGim> 으흐... 다만 배가 무지하게 고프네요...
[16:51] <DarkCircle> 벌써 새벽이네요 -ㅅ- 전 아직도 아 자정이겠지 생각했는데
[16:51] <PotatoGim> http://sfujiwara.hatenablog.com/entry/2015/11/02/103440
[16:51] <DarkCircle> 불닥면 ... -ㅂ-
[16:51] <DarkCircle> 짜왕
[16:51] <PotatoGim> http://www.songmu.jp/riji/entry/2015-11-03-isucon5.html
[16:51] <PotatoGim> 내일을 위해서 남겨놓았던 불닭과 짜왕이 있어서
[16:52] <PotatoGim> 자고 일어나서 먹으려고 계획하고 있습니다...ㅋㅋ
[16:52] <DarkCircle> 하지만
곧 배고플 예정입니다
[16:52] <PotatoGim> 윽...
[16:54] <PotatoGim> 배고프기 전에 잠이 든다면?
[16:55] <DarkCircle> 그러면 일어나고 나서 그걸 먹는걸 포기하게 될지도 -ㅅ-a ...
[16:57] <PotatoGim> 윽... 얼른 자고 아점으로 먹을 계획이었는데...
[16:57] <DarkCircle> 전 요새 한끼먹어서 감량중.
[16:57] <autowiz> 저도 지금 배고픈데 살뺀다고 참고 있습니다.
[16:58] <autowiz> 먹을것도 별로 안남았구요 ㅠㅠ
[16:58] <PotatoGim> 헉... 다이어트 시즌이군요;
[16:58] <PotatoGim> 냉장고에 우유만 있는 것을 보고선 체념했습니다...
[16:58] <PotatoGim> 먹고는 싶은데..ㅠ 불닭+짜왕은 낼 아점이고..ㅎㅎ
[16:59] <autowiz> 햇반+ 컵라면 , 아니면 , 3분카레 + 햇반 으로 자주 먹습니다.
[16:59] <autowiz> 아니면 근처 포장마차에서 1500원짜리 토스트 두개로 하루 때울때도 많고
[16:59] <DarkCircle> 비루하시군요 ㄱ- ...
[16:59] <PotatoGim> 으음...
[16:59] <PotatoGim> 헝그리 정신으로 일하시는...ㅠ
[16:59] <autowiz> 금요일 저녁에 고기를 너무 먹는 바람에 ㅋㅋ
[16:59] <autowiz> 15만원 나왔다는
[16:59] <PotatoGim> ...!
[17:00] <DarkCircle> 가산디지털 단지 주변에
[17:00] <DarkCircle> 소고기 부페 레스토랑 있던데 ...
[17:00] <DarkCircle> 2만원 언저리면 코스요리처럼 먹을 수 있는 집 있더라고요
[17:00] <DarkCircle> 돼지고기집도 ...
[17:00] <autowiz> 그래요? ㅎㅎ 다음에 거기한번 가봐야겠습니다.
[17:00] <DarkCircle> 1인당 만원인가 대면
[17:01] <DarkCircle> 무한으로 주는 집 있긴함.
[17:01] <autowiz> 청담본갈비 라고 있는데 ㅋㅋ 돼지갈비가 1인분에 3만원 정도
[17:01] <DarkCircle> 헐 (.....)
[17:01] <autowiz> 맛은정말 있는데 너무 비싼 ㅠㅠ
[17:01] <DarkCircle> 양념 돼지갈비는
[17:02] <DarkCircle> "신선도가 떨어진" 고기가 보통입니다. 숙성을 시켜놔야 좀 부드럽게 씹히거든요 ㄱ-;
[17:02] <autowiz> 근데 한두번은 먹어볼만한 가치는 있는거 같기도 하고... .그래서 평소엔 살도뺄꼄 완전 빈곤모드 ㅠㅠ
[17:02] <DarkCircle> 살찌는거 상관 없다면 차라리 돈까스 집이 나을 수도 있는데
[17:02] <DarkCircle> =3
[17:03] <DarkCircle> 그것도 무한으로 먹는집.
[17:04] <autowiz> 회사 맞은편에 돈까스 부페가 있는데 ㅎㅎ 아무래도 부페다 보니 무한일듯 돈까스도 3가지나 있어서 ㅋㅋ
[17:04] <DarkCircle> 요새 돈까스 부페 많더라고요.
[17:04] <DarkCircle> 가본집중에 제일 싼 집이 녹두거리쪽.
[17:05] <autowiz> 녹두거리면 어디에요?
[17:05] <DarkCircle> 음료수가 무한이면 좋은데 대부분 음료수는 따로 사먹어야되더라는 ...
[17:05] <DarkCircle> 고시촌이요.
[17:07] <DarkCircle> 흑석동에서 적은 음식 가짓수를 택하는 대신에 무한 음료수를 먹을거냐, 아니면 다양한 음식 가짓수를 택하는 대신에 무한 음료수를 포기할거냐 ...
[17:07] <DarkCircle> 둘중 하나 .
[17:07] <DarkCircle> 후자는 고시촌.
[17:50] <HolyKnight> [펌글] [단독] 서울 강남서 성형수술 받은 중국여성 사망
[17:51] <autowiz> 아이고 어쩌다가 돌아가셨을까나. 안타까운 뉴스군요
[17:56] <DarkCircle> http://mbn.mk.co.kr/pages/news/newsView.php?category=mbn00009&news_seq_no=2636756
[17:57] <DarkCircle> 아마 대강 추측건대, 수술하기 전에 마취약이랑 생체조직이랑 반응검사를 하는게 덜 됐거나 안하지 않았을까 ... 는 의심이 살짝 드네요
[17:58] <DarkCircle> 드물게 마취약 쇼크증상이 있어서 갑자기 죽는 사람이 있는데 듣기로는 만명중에 하나 있을까 말까 한다고 ...
[18:03] <DarkCircle> 그래서 대학병원에서 보면 수액 이외의 약제주사액을 투약하기 전에 피를 뽑아서 반응 검사를 하더라고요. 특히 조영제나 마취제 같은 경우.
[18:05] <autowiz> 뭐 드물게 일어날 수 있는 일이긴 하다고 생각합니다.
[18:11] <DarkCircle> 공허의 유산이 곧 나올 모양인데 시네마틱 동영상이 참 소오름 돋네요
[18:29] <autowiz> 와우 확장판이 하나더 나오는군요
[18:48] <DarkCircle> 심지어 워크래프트 영화가 내년에 나오니 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.005229
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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"pchero"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-ko"
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-motu
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[00:29] <Meerkat> Hi. I found a feature-adding patch/bug fix for rapidsvn that I verified still works. How do I get this addition into Ubuntu?
[01:00] <Meerkat> is this the proper channel for this topic?
[11:56] <Meerkat> Hello. I found a patch for RapidSVN that fixes a bug and I verified that it still works. I was told to go here in order to get the fix into Ubuntu. Is this the right place?
[15:20] <mitya57> Meerkat, it's the right place, though there are not many people here on weekends.
[15:20] <mitya57> Meerkat, please make sure your patch appears on the sponsor queue (see link in the topic), and if it's already there, then just wait until someone picks it up.
[15:37] <Unit193> Sponsors queue is really long right now.
[16:39] <Meerkat> is there any other way to do this that doesn't involve GPG keys? I can't make any GPG keys due to other bugs.
[16:56] <mitya57> You don't need any GPG keys, just attach a debdiff to a bug, or submit a merge proposal against lp:ubuntu/packagename branch.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.008687
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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"Meerkat",
"Unit193",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-motu"
}
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2015-11-07-#lubuntu
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[00:49] <Dirkson> Unit193: Managed to free juuuust enough space to let the update tool do its work, and so now I appear to be on 14.somethingorother, which is good enough. Thanks for the earlier input : )
[00:51] <Unit193> Great! Glad you got it all working then. And check for old kernels too, those can take up a good deal. I'm a fan of 'ncdu' myself.
[01:20] <Dirkson> Unit193: Didn't know about ncdu. That seems a lot preferrable to my usual du|grep|less thing.
[03:45] <tachibana> hi
[20:24] <Guest-2> I am using lubuntu 14.04.3 64 bit and it willnot read SDHC card. what can be wrong ?
[20:25] <dzho> what is the card readable on?
[20:26] * dzho wonders about the filesystem
[20:27] <Guest-2> I dont know. but one card is allready used on another computer with lubuntu 32 bit. i know sometimes i need to format it.
[20:28] <Guest-2> My computer dont detect my cards.
[20:38] <Guest-2> dzho: it just worked once, but not anymore.
[20:53] <Guest-2> how can i make the cardreader works ?
[21:00] <Guest-2> brb
[21:03] <Guest-2> test
[21:14] <Guest-2> Is someone know about sd card mounting problems ?
[21:39] <Wsewolod> Hello. I'm a new linux user, and after dual-booting Lubuntu onto my system, I cannot connect to my wireless internet. What are some troubleshooting possibilities for this that don't involve installing anything?
[21:44] <redwolf> Wsewolod, do you see your connection in the wifi applet menu?
[21:45] <Wsewolod> In the bottom-right connection panel, it does not detect any connections and had some ethernet default
[21:46] <Wsewolod> My Win10 partition picks up all wireless networks, and I've "added" the information for my desired signal, but it does not connect or detect anything.
[21:46] <redwolf> so it's not detected automatically? did it work during the install process?
[21:46] <Wsewolod> It did not.
[21:48] <redwolf> it's odd
[21:49] <redwolf> maybe a drivers related problem, or a specific model thing
[21:49] <Wsewolod> Alright then
[21:49] <Wsewolod> I'll try reinstalling, and if that doesn't work, temporarily use a different distro on the device :/ Thank you.
[21:50] <redwolf> okay o.o
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.012457
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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"channel": "#lubuntu"
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-pl
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[07:51] <Ashiren> :3 http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aNKGDgv_460s.jpg
[08:19] <BlessJah> bastetmilo: masz niewielkie wymagania, carbon X1 dziala dobrze z linuksami
[08:26] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/AioqgKs.jpg
[08:41] <qermit> bastemilo wszystkie dzialaja
[08:41] <qermit> chyba ze chodzi o wsparcie dla przyspieszaczy
[08:41] <gjm> podaj markę i model zasilacza
[08:41] <gjm> oh, wait
[08:42] <qermit> są też łapki wspierane oficjalnie na stronce
[08:43] <qermit> laptopy
[09:30] <jacekn> bastetmilo: jesli wezmiesz cos z grafika i wifi intela to zwykle nie ma problemow. Z mojego doswiadczenia ThinkPady sa bezbledne z linuksem
[09:31] <Ashiren> "grafika intela"
[09:40] <jacekn> i wifi
[12:13] <drathir> bastetmilo: witaj...
[12:15] <drathir> teraz wszystko intel bo na i cor4e i to smiga nawet z akceleracja gpu... zalezy do czego raczej sprzet i jaka polka cenowa...
[12:15] <drathir> swoja droga kope lat jesli nikt sie nie podszywa ;p
[12:38] <bastetmilo> kto by się podemnie podszywał, no :) cześć drathir
[12:38] <bastetmilo> wybrałam już model DELL E7450
[12:39] <bastetmilo> jacekn: rozważałam tinkpada, ale te nowe mają kiepskie opinie
[12:39] <TheNumb> bastetmilo: cześć
[12:39] <TheNumb> bastetmilo: a dlaczego nie macbook pro?
[12:40] <sysek> kup maca
[12:40] <sysek> wgraj linuksa
[12:40] <TheNumb> a po co komu linuks na desktopie
[12:40] <d42> nowe delle też są tragiczne
[12:40] <sysek> a ja wiem
[12:40] <sysek> znam ludzi ktorzy maja windowsa na makach
[12:40] <d42> bierz thinkpada
[12:40] <drathir> i sie uzeraj z broadcomem ;/ wszystko co broadcoma ma szerokim lukiem omijac...
[12:41] <TheNumb> d42: chyba w drugą stronę
[12:41] <TheNumb> np ar wziął jakiegoś della z serii e7400 bo tynkpady są badziewne teraz
[12:41] <TheNumb> ;p
[12:42] <bastetmilo> TheNumb: dlatego że makbook pro jest ciężki
[12:42] <TheNumb> hę?
[12:42] <TheNumb> Ciekawe który :D
[12:42] <TheNumb> Masa: 1,58 kg
[12:42] <TheNumb> dużo?
[12:43] <sysek> dużo !
[12:43] <sysek> tylko macbook air !
[12:43] <drathir> worek zlota na kupno dolicz ;p
[12:43] <TheNumb> ten dell waży 1.64
[12:43] <bastetmilo> TheNumb: a to przepraszam, mialam w pracy makbooka pro i ciężki był jak cholera
[12:44] <bastetmilo> i tak mi się utarło
[12:44] <sysek> to chyba 17 cali
[12:44] <TheNumb> bastetmilo: bo pewnie stary model ;p
[12:44] <TheNumb> starsze 13,3" ważyły nieco ponad 2 kg
[12:44] <TheNumb> te nowsze nie mają napędu i mają tylko ssd
[12:44] <TheNumb> ;-)
[12:46] <bastetmilo> a, już wiem dlaczego, bo dostaje i5, gdzie w dellu w mniejszej cenie mam i7
[12:46] <bastetmilo> patrze tylko na 13"
[12:46] <drathir> Dell Wireless™ 1560 (802.11ac 2x2, WiFi & BT) to dell karty produkuje ?
[12:46] <d42> drathir: rebranduje
[12:47] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/r8kXNrf.jpg
[12:47] <d42> ie może ci się zmienia jeden pin żeby działały lampki i nie dostajesz przy boocie, że coś nie tak z twoją kartą
[12:49] <drathir> oby to rtl jakis byl albo atheos...
[12:49] <d42> dude wat
[12:50] <TheNumb> realtek drugi w kolejności po broadcomie najgorszy producent
[12:50] <TheNumb> (wifi)
[12:51] <TheNumb> i tak, te dell wireless to zazwyczaj broadcom :^)
[12:51] <TheNumb> czyli będzie ból dupy żeby to działało jako tako
[12:53] <drathir> d42: ale z tego co widze to chyba jednak intelowskie...
[12:53] <drathir> aa moze i ne ;p
[12:54] <drathir> Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260 Specifications podobne troche do tego...
[12:59] <drathir> TheNumb: drugi to ralink raczej moim zdaniem rtl trzecie miejsce...
[12:59] <TheNumb> zależy jeszcze który ralink
[12:59] <TheNumb> <:
[12:59] <TheNumb> Ja mam jedną kartę na usb i jest super.
[12:59] <TheNumb> Tylko, że ona ma już z... 8 lat? :D
[13:00] <drathir> TheNumb: mam jeszcze starsza podejrzewam na pci to dzialac dziala, ale sygnal na - pokazuje stery do dzis nie spatchowane ;p
[13:00] <TheNumb> : D
[13:00] <drathir> -1 dokladniej*
[13:02] <drathir> no i musze przyznac ze nowe atherosy te pod stery 10k jeszcze problemy robia, ale to wszystko przez qualcolma ;/
[13:03] <drathir> bo jak z linuxem atheros mial fajne uklady to teraz mieszac zaczeli...
[13:05] <Dread> qualcomma*
[13:05] <Dread> mieszać, nie mieszać, drivery robią
[13:08] <sysek> :))))
[14:02] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/R20ID1j.jpg
[14:06] <gjm> wl ppz
[14:32] <BlessJah> bastetmilo: seria *40 jest tragiczna, *50 powinny byc juz lepsze po fali krytyki po x240 i t440
[14:33] <BlessJah> bastetmilo: nowe delle sa z deka badziewne, to juz nie te same delle co kiedys
[14:47] <TheNumb> nowe thinkpady to też nie to co kiedyś
[14:57] <BlessJah> TheNumb: t440 macalem, mniej solidny w dotyku ale dalej przyjemny
[15:13] <drathir> 1
[15:13] <drathir> err...
[16:14] <Ashiren> :1.5 http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/avLVGZn_460sv.mp4
[16:14] <qermit> znowu koty?
[16:31] <firemark> Ashiren: 1.5 - nice joke
[18:54] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/3IhCxMJ.jpg
[21:19] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/nd9X2Mj.jpg
[22:29] <matti_> hej
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.026857
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-tr
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[22:11] <korsanq_> join
[22:11] <korsanq_> selam
[22:14] <korsanq> merhaba
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.027809
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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"korsanq",
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu+1
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[09:12] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:23] <penguin42> hey BK
[12:29] <BluesKaj> hey penguin42
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.028452
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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"BluesKaj",
"lordievader",
"penguin42"
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"channel": "#ubuntu+1"
}
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-irc
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[04:06] <sethj> can I get a member IRC cloak? launchpad page is https://launchpad.net/~sethj (wiki page said to ask here)
[04:14] <nhandler> Congrats on the membership, sethj. Once a member of the IRCC approves the request, I would be happy to set the cloak :)
[04:16] <sethj> thanks nhandler! I don't have to do anything else then?
[04:18] <nhandler> sethj: Nope. Just wait. Most of the council appears to be away, but it is possible Flannel is still aorund
[04:24] <sethj> ok. Thanks again nhandler :)
[04:25] <Unit193> Flan nel is on it?
[04:25] <Unit193> Huh.
[04:28] <Unit193> nhandler: What if I inpersonate one of them and ACK it, would that count?
[04:30] <nhandler> Unit193: According to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc-council/+members they are. And unless you manage to identify as one of them, your ACK won't do much good
[04:31] * Unit193 quits being silly, in here at least.
[08:35] <Flannel> nhandler: I've confirmed sethj is a member and, thus, is approved for a member cloak. If you're still around.
[08:37] <nhandler> Flannel: They are now cloaked
[08:38] <Flannel> nhandler: Thanks. Now all we need are some daggers.
[08:38] <nhandler> Flannel: :P
[09:05] <Mikaela> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots/+bug/1514053
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.031638
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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"Flannel",
"Mikaela",
"Unit193",
"nhandler",
"sethj"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-irc"
}
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2015-11-07-#maas
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[08:12] <mup> Bug #1514045 opened: MAAS sometime install fails if mutiple DHCP are confuigued in MAAS <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514045>
[17:35] <mup> Bug #1514094 opened: bcache setup fails in gmaas <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514094>
[17:38] <mup> Bug #1514094 changed: bcache setup fails in gmaas <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514094>
[17:41] <mup> Bug #1514094 opened: bcache setup fails in gmaas <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514094>
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.032883
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"mup"
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"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/07/%23maas.txt",
"channel": "#maas"
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2015-11-07-#ubuntustudio
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[15:57] <beebeep> Привет
[15:57] <Unit193> !ru | beebeep
[15:57] <beebeep> ok
[15:58] <beebeep> join #ubuntu-ru
[15:58] <beebeep> xD
[16:21] <iknowom> есть кто
[17:04] <iknowom> привет
[17:40] <iknowom_> dfdfgf
[17:40] <iknowom_> привет всем
[17:40] <Unit193> !ru | iknowom_
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.038319
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-us-pa
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[03:55] <dannydiff> gotta say love Ubuntu but hate the updates.
[03:58] <dannydiff> wow lot of people here but no chatter.
[04:09] <dannydiff> dead chat
[04:11] <jthan> WElp..
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.039259
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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"dannydiff",
"jthan"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-us-pa"
}
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-news
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[00:43] <pleia2> newsletter doc prepped and sent to summary writers
[03:41] <ahoneybun> got it
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.039797
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
{
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"authors": [
"ahoneybun",
"pleia2"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/07/%23ubuntu-news.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-news"
}
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-gr
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[08:17] <Tassos> καλημέρα
[08:56] <xeirwn> kalimera sta paidia :-)
[09:04] <xeirwn> xupnisame ... h akoma psaxnoume gia kafe ?
[09:44] <Tassos> ξυπνήσαμε βρε.. ;) :P
[09:50] <xeirwn> hehe....
[09:53] <xeirwn> psaxnomai gia SSD (desktop) kai gia SSD(laptop)....opoios exei idees kalodexoumenes...
[15:56] <Tassos> για εγκατάσταση μιας εφαρμογής από τον administrator για όλους τους χρήστες... τι χρειάζεται να γίνει ;
[18:18] <xeirwn> re seis mhn milate oloi mazu...me exete ksekoufanei :-P
[19:53] <xeirwn> paides , poio einai to katalilotero tool gia na ftiaksoume ena multiboot usb stick ?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.043977
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"Tassos",
"xeirwn"
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-dk
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[11:15] <Ubuntubruger6> ?spørgsmål jeg har lige installeret NEMubuntu jeg kan kun logge på gæstekonto. hvad har jeg gjort forkert
[19:00] <Ubuntubruger7> Spørgsmål. Jeg kan ikke installere Ubuntu 14.04 på min nyindkøbte NUC 5I5RYH
[19:03] <Ubuntubruger7> Grafikken kører ikke ved installation. Man ser kun streger og tilfældige knapper på skærmen, og kommer ikke videre. Deer står ellers ad Ubuntu er understøttet som OS på Intels hjemmeside. Er der nogen der kender problemet ?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.047003
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-hr
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[09:11] <jelly> http://imgur.com/gallery/wKwByWe
[09:31] <Vlado9A3CY> bon žur
[09:31] <Vlado9A3CY> :)
[11:17] <jelly> #onokad kolega ne promijeni IP adresu na starom serveru, nestane i vrati se struja i dignu se i stari i novi na istoj IP adresi
[11:20] <vileni> fun
[11:20] <vileni> btw, arping mi super kad imam 2 stroja na istom ip
[11:21] <jelly> jedan bivsi kolega je obicavao vrtit cron job arping -U svake minute
[11:22] <jelly> u ovom slucaju bi to bilo kobno jer bi oba imala isti job aktivan, i morao bi ic na lokaciju. Ovako je svaki drzao IP par minuta, i uspio sam se ulogirat na stari i promijenit mu ip
[11:39] <SilverSpace> jutro
[11:40] <jelly> jutro:-)
[11:48] <SilverSpace> jelly: da bar u 6:45h gremlin me probudio i dere se ja sam gladan
[11:50] <jelly> tsk
[11:50] * jelly se digao u 9... jedva
[11:51] <jelly> doduse mozda sam se igrao na tabletu u krevetu do 5
[11:51] <jelly> predugo traje baterija
[11:51] <SilverSpace> :)
[13:07] <jelly> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/powershell/archive/2015/10/19/openssh-for-windows-update.aspx
[14:40] <jelly> http://imgur.com/gallery/H0Gw3rQ maca
[15:16] <vileni> danas smo naucili sto radi crontab -r
[15:33] <SilverSpace> dobro ovaj wily radi
[15:42] <jobenty> privet
[15:47] <jobenty> Vidim da postoji puno više 32bitnih aplikacija za linux nego 64bitnih. Ako instaliram 32bitni linux na računalo sa 64bitnim procesorom tada bih mogao koristiti te aplikacije? Jesam li upravu?
[15:48] <SilverSpace> ne
[15:49] <SilverSpace> 32 mozes koristiti i na 64 bitmom OS
[15:55] <jobenty> ok
[15:56] <jobenty> A što? Moram li instalirati neki dodatak?
[15:59] <SilverSpace> http://askubuntu.com/questions/359156/how-do-you-run-a-32-bit-program-on-a-64-bit-version-of-ubuntu
[15:59] <SilverSpace> ia32-libs paket ti treba
[16:00] <jobenty> hvala
[16:00] <SilverSpace> tak nekaj
[16:00] <SilverSpace> google ne znam ni ja na pamet
[17:19] <jelly> hmm, dual sim oneplus x 300 ojra
[17:23] <CrazyLemon> "dual sim" ako ga koristis kao dual sim telefon
[17:23] <CrazyLemon> onda nema sd card slota
[17:24] <CrazyLemon> totally unrelated - awesome video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuQLMXyGQOE
[17:24] <datase> YouTube: Dubioza kolektiv "Free.mp3 (The Pirate Bay Song)" - 0:03:34 - 370203 views - 11905 likes / 190 dislikes
[18:27] <vileni> jelly: bolje oneplus2 :)
[18:27] <jelly> bolje za koga?
[18:27] <jelly> meni je 5.5" grozno preveliko
[18:28] <jelly> i ovaj mi je prevelik, 140mm x 69 mm
[18:33] <vileni> pa bas to, svi su ionako preveliki
[18:33] <vileni> zasto ne imati veceg :)
[18:40] <SilverSpace> :)
[18:45] <jelly> radije cu koristiti ovog 124mm x 62mm dok radi
[18:45] <vileni> ja se hocu rijesiti s4
[18:46] <vileni> i uzeti nesto kao oneplusone,2,x
[18:47] <jelly> brijem da ce iduci biti iPhone, jer jedini ima software update 3 godine
[18:48] <jelly> apsolutno svi ostali su gamad 12 mjeseci nakon sto kupis uredjaj, vise nema zakrpi
[18:48] <vileni> pa nexusi su solidni po tom pitanju
[19:57] <vileni> https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1171696
[19:57] <vileni> ocekivao bih da je to popravljeno
[20:07] <Mmike> zena ima galaxy s5 mini dual sim
[20:07] <Mmike> i ima mjesta za sd kartu
[20:07] <Mmike> i skroz je ok mobitel
[20:12] <vileni> osim sto je bloatani samsung
[20:30] <Mmike> pa nist vise bloatan neg druga sranja
[20:30] <Mmike> moja xperia isto bloatana
[20:30] <Mmike> vileni, zakaj se ne utrkujes vise?
[20:37] <vileni> Mmike: krivo je more
[20:38] <vileni> pas
[20:38] <vileni> i slicno
[20:44] <vileni> crko mi disk u storageu
[20:44] <vileni> ima tko 400gb+ disk za prodati?
[20:53] <Mmike> vileni, imam ja
[20:54] <Mmike> ne bas 400 al' naslob i se nest
[20:54] <vileni> pa moze i vecih par :)
[20:54] <vileni> ionako mi plan apgrejdati
[20:54] <jelly> imam ja 2TB sa bad sektorima, ali mozda je prvih 400GB ok ;-)
[20:54] <vileni> haha :)
[20:55] <jelly> vec koristim takve izvadjene iz nekog drugog storagea
[20:56] <jelly> "There are 17 weak sectors found on the disk surface. They may be remapped any time in the later use of the disk. No actions needed."
[20:57] <vileni> jelly: ali to su weak, nisu jos bad :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.064044
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-discuss
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[00:07] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Are you covered up ? got time to look into Bilge not able to start the GUI in 15.10 ? got over my experience level .
[00:10] <TJ-> I'll dive in. Looks like the failsafe kicked in an renamed the broken xorg.conf
[00:16] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Thanks .. also http://paste.ubuntu.com/13132993/ .. Do I read right that the Nvidia card can not find a display port ? all attempts are "disconnected " .
[00:17] <TJ-> Bashing-om: This is an Intel/Nvidia Optimus?
[00:21] <Bashing-om> TJ-: affirmed as optimus per the xorg log file .. OP does not know .
[00:22] <TJ-> I wonder if this is one of those MUXless systems - where the nvidia GPU doesn't get to control the outputs, it has to render into shared memory for the Intel to do the framebuffer scanout
[00:23] <Bashing-om> TJ-: I had not even considered that ! muxless .
[00:24] <TJ-> Do you have any nvidia driver installed there; I want to point you to a help file
[00:26] <Bashing-om> TJ-: No .. no longer have any system with Nvidia cards .
[00:26] <TJ-> Hang on then, let me find it online
[00:27] <TJ-> OK, read this: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/352.30/README/optimus.html
[00:28] <TJ-> Re: "Muxless" the sentence "On systems without a mux, the NVIDIA GPU can still be useful for offscreen rendering, running CUDA applications, and other uses that don't require driving a display." seems applicable
[00:28] <Bashing-om> TJ-: (that is subject to change) I have a box I want to build for a media center, if the other half will go along with it -money thing .
[00:28] <Bashing-om> reading
[00:30] <TJ-> I think the appropriate link there is "see Chapter 32, Offloading Graphics Display with RandR 1.4." to http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/352.30/README/randr14.html
[00:34] <TJ-> Chapter 32 seems to suggest that special xorg.conf is the solution to enable offloading, but there may be some additional firmware configuration for the video to be done
[00:35] <Bashing-om> TJ-: The above might explain the setting ( I had the OP change) " Driver "modesetting". and also why the system over-writes the changed config file ??
[00:38] <TJ-> Yes, it looks like it detects the bad xorg.conf broke things, renames it out the way, and creates a default config. I have the same thing happen with my 6-monitor config if the external GPU adapter isn't connected
[00:40] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Regressing a bit; so the output of ' /usr/bin/prime-supported ' being "yes" .... we have a problem ?
[00:40] <TJ-> If this will solve these MUXless issues, we can use it as the blueprint from now on to quickly fix these darn things
[00:41] <TJ-> the /var/log/prime-supported.log had "Requires offloading: yes"
[00:41] <Bashing-om> TJ-: We started messing with this yesterday . I have made 0 progress with it to this time .
[00:41] <TJ-> so I think we can infer from that this is MUXless and has to offload rendering to the Nvidia GPU
[00:42] <TJ-> This is the first time I've found/seen a sensible simple solution for MUXless - I usually ignore/walk away from Optimus :)
[00:43] <Bashing-om> TJ-: My 1st also with a optimus system that is MUX-less . I am again in a learning mode . thanks .
[00:47] <TJ-> This seems to be key, from that Chapter 32:
[00:47] <TJ-> command to query the capabilities of the graphics devices. If the system requirements are met and the X server is configured correctly, there should be a provider named NVIDIA-0 with the Source Output capability and one named modesetting with the Sink Output capability. If either provider is missing or doesn't have the expected capability, check your system configuration
[00:47] <TJ-> $ xrandr --listproviders
[00:48] <pauljw> gnite all
[00:51] <TJ-> I think we may be there! I suspect Bilge only needs to sort out Unity issues in the profile
[00:53] <Bashing-om> TJ-: I will be much relieved if that is so .
[00:54] <TJ-> Hmmm, I had thought there was no log-in at all, but it sounds like there's just a Unity rendering issue, which might be down to a config issue, and clues may be in ~/.xsession-errors
[00:55] <TJ-> Are you OK to pick back up on the Unity config issues? I've not used it in years!
[01:05] <Bashing-om> TJ-: I too could muddle through it . But I do not have access to a running unity desktop. and looks like you are still teaching . sure is nice that Bilge is so willing to co-operate and follow instructions !
[01:07] <TJ-> I'm *sure* monitors.xml has been the issue before; I wonder if it is no longer present on 15.10
[01:11] <Bashing-om> Maybe ~/.config/monitors.xml . Still looking .
[01:12] <TJ-> I think this is going to be a gsettings difference
[01:33] <Bashing-om> TJ-: there is also these config files for unity : ~/.config/dconf and ~/.config/compiz-1 and ~/.dmrc .
[01:36] <TJ-> Right. We only moved .config/ so something in there triggered it to work. I'd love to know what it is!
[01:47] <TJ-> One down :)
[01:48] <TJ-> I'll look at the .config zip Bilge has sent tomorrow when I'm more awake
[01:57] <Bashing-om> TJ-: UH, huh on the down .. I would never have figgured it out .. was chasing my tail . thanks heaps .
[02:02] <TJ-> You're welcome. I think part of the issue was the user's description of the issue. I originally thought it was failing to log-in, but it turned out to be 'no workspace/desktop'
[02:10] * daftykins yawns
[02:10] <TJ-> fed up on the bonfire toffee?
[02:12] <daftykins> what on earth is that? :D
[02:12] <daftykins> heh US lass i know was asking me why there were fireworks here
[02:20] <TJ-> I managed to burn out a disk-on-module SSD yesterday
[02:22] <TJ-> first a PCB trace from the +5ve input to pin 20 on the PATA-IDE header then realised the LDO voltage regulator was taken out, too! I had managed to connect the device 1 pin column to the right! It would have been fine BUT that pin 20 - which is supposed to be blank, and used as a keyway, was on this device connected to that external 5V input, so when I connected it incorrectly I managed to connect the
[02:22] <TJ-> 5V external input to ground!
[02:24] <TJ-> bonfire toffee: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonfire_toffee
[02:29] <daftykins> ouch!
[02:50] <daftykins> good ol' bodhi.
[02:59] <TJ-> Wasn't it one of those Thinkpad Edge models where the boot-loader EFI file had to be marked as 'trusted' before it would boot from it? I wonder if that also affects the simple media path boot-loader /EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI - be a right pain if it does
[03:13] <daftykins> yeah i vaguely remember hearing that the other day
[03:14] <daftykins> no idea how you sorted that mind you
[03:19] <TJ-> The user passed on some photos of the firmware setup screens. Look at the 3rd photo down: http://imgur.com/a/aj108
[03:21] <TJ-> "Select an UEFI file as trusted for executing:" - Secure Boot Mode *must* be enable to use that. When it is selected a file-chooser is shown and you can browser the EFI-SP to choose and select the file. Once it is marked trusted like that, Secure Boot can be disabled again - but it MUST be trusted whether SB is enabled or not
[03:21] <TJ-> Security Tab, InsydeH2O Firmware
[03:34] <daftykins> haha guy was watching football in the background
[03:35] <EriC^^> yeah
[03:35] <EriC^^> :D
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:55] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: o/ ,,, It is that time already ? Time flys when having fun .
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: hey mate, had a good support night?
[03:56] <daftykins> \o
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> hey daftykins
[03:56] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Made it a good one .
[03:56] <daftykins> i think lotus wakes up far too early
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> yep lol
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> 4h57 here
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> my pizza was dancinf around my stomac
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> im trying to drown it with coffee now
[03:57] <daftykins> :D
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: did pikachu come back?
[03:58] <TJ-> Glass of cold mik settles pizza
[03:58] <Bashing-om> that what pizza does ! lol
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: oh i thought that was to settle LSD :p
[03:58] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: haha, i'm not sure - not seen any evidence but then i've been offline a lot of today
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: i saw him yesterday morning and told me not to abuse the bot after !language to a stfu user lol
[03:59] <daftykins> ugh, definitely our latest fan then
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> ill be waiting for his mistake :p
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> lets c whats new in ubuntu news land
[04:01] <TJ-> We've never seen this 'deitarion' before that I can tell, but the character is rather like pikapi
[04:01] <daftykins> i'm not sure pikapi has as much of a clue :)
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: TJ- is convices he has asperger :p
[04:02] <daftykins> i think 90% of freenode is
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> haha
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/10/29/the-ubuntu-online-summit-starts-next-week/
[04:04] <TJ-> right, deitarion is http://blog.ssokolow.com/
[04:05] <TJ-> what's the haha for?
[04:06] * lotuspsychje crawls back in his mental cell
[04:06] <TJ-> Are you going back to the future, or forward to the past? :D
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> lol
[04:07] <TJ-> I might surprise the dogs and take them out now, before the rain arrives.
[04:08] <daftykins> awoooo
[04:08] <daftykins> :>
[04:09] <TJ-> rain is due to start within the hour and go all day, so i'll go now :)
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> #ubuntu-uos-plenary this is where to summit guys hangout/chat
[04:12] <TJ-> and ...-uos-core
[04:12] <TJ-> and -uos
[04:47] <Bashing-om> Relieve is here, I going horizonal for the spell. Good night.
[09:13] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:13] <cfhowlett> any ops?? please come drop a ban hammer on xenu-lives
[09:18] <lordievader> cfhowlett: There is a factoid which pings all ops.
[09:18] <cfhowlett> lordievader, got it. wasn't sure any were in play. thanks, it's been dealt with.
[09:19] <lordievader> Ok, good :)
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:56] <lordievader> o/
[16:44] <EriC^^> TJ-: man these awkward uefi stuff
[16:45] <EriC^^> just yesterday you were mentioning uefi that have to be "trusted" even with secureboot off and this guy comes in today and his uefi has it
[16:46] <EriC^^> so when the bios didn't like anything i remembered what you said and asked him to check and he had the trust thingy
[16:47] <EriC^^> but it still wont work right, it's been trusted but he keeps getting a boot menu before grub each time :/
[16:48] <daftykins> :(
[16:49] <daftykins> TJ- has a knack for that, he told me about the ACPI OSI thing just the day before someone came in needing it too :D
[16:49] <EriC^^> yeah it's funny
[16:50] <daftykins> is it a Lenovo too? any BIOS updates available maybe?
[16:51] <EriC^^> acer aspire
[16:51] <daftykins> ah, blargh
[16:51] <daftykins> if i remember the acers were the first to want a supervisor password added before they'd give up other options, too
[16:52] <EriC^^> :/
[16:52] <daftykins> ah yeah E11, that's the model range i keep hearing about UEFI issues with
[16:55] <EriC^^> i'm going to get some beer
[16:56] <daftykins> \o/
[16:56] <daftykins> that guy bodhi yesterday would enjoy seeing these setups that don't work with secure boot being on, despite what he kept saying ;)
[16:57] <TJ-> Sorry... was miles away reading!
[16:58] <daftykins> you're forgiven ;)
[16:59] <TJ-> EriC^^: which file(s) were trusted? the UEFI install often installs shimx64.efi as well as grubx64.efi. I seem to recall I may have recommended the user mark all /EFI/ubuntu/*.efi files trusted.
[16:59] <daftykins> acer seem to be performing very badly, in a financial sense - so they might not be long for this world
[17:00] <TJ-> EriC^^: Although with my programming hat on, I'd expect only the file that is listed in the Ubuntu boot menu entry would need to be 'trusted'. On the other hand, as that file will call into the UEFI API to load other files, it might actually make sense
[17:00] <TJ-> They seem to be extremely tied to Microsoft Windows with no concern for interoperability.
[17:01] <daftykins> could be a money/deal thing
[17:01] <TJ-> Strange, seeing as their R&D people must have a lot of experience/knowledge of Linux due to the eee series
[17:01] <daftykins> but then have we seen this trusted file thing on anything beyond acer yet?
[17:01] <daftykins> nah Eee's were Asus
[17:02] <TJ-> I doubt it; MS has got past the point of needing to throw marketing $$$ backhander/rebates at manufacturers
[17:02] <TJ-> Oh, they were!
[17:02] <TJ-> Ha, I knew it started with A :D
[17:02] <daftykins> although acer probably had Linux based netbooks at some point, too
[17:02] <daftykins> hehe yeah i often read the other when i see one
[17:03] <TJ-> It's like Asustek ... is that Asus or some other company, and then there's the ASrock ... always get confused
[17:03] <TJ-> Oh, would you like some pro-tips about IPv6 firewalling whilst I remember!
[17:03] <daftykins> just to confuse you more, ASRock are a subsidiary of Asus i believe - they just do their own separate line of motherboards etc :>
[17:04] <daftykins> does it involve running away from it as fast as you can? :)
[17:07] <TJ-> No!
[17:08] <TJ-> I'm slowly moving our home network over to be primarily IPv6 instead of IPv4 and got myself puzzled and stuck with a simple ping for about 4 hours during the early hours today
[17:09] <EriC^^> i was away a bit
[17:10] <daftykins> my ISP still doesn't give v6, so no hurry to learn for the meantime
[17:10] <TJ-> One of the (many) wonderful things about IPv6 is, due to the address space being 128 bits rather than 32 bits, there is no pressure to re-use IP addresses. Every device can have it's own publicly routed IPv6 address. That means complex network applications will 'just-work', because the gateway device doesn't need to do PNAT (Port and Network Address Translation).
[17:11] <TJ-> So, in practice ISPs assign every connection its own /48 network... that means you have more than 18 billion addresses you can use, rather than the measily 1 address (a /32) having to be shared, as in IPv4
[17:12] <TJ-> It makes things easier since the gateway only has to do routing - no complex connection tracking in the netfilters layer (controlled by iptables).
[17:13] <TJ-> That does mean though, that if you choose not to firewall those connections on the router but on each device, you've got to get the device firewall rules correct.
[17:13] <daftykins> *nod* that's the extent of my knowledge really, plus localhost becoming ::1
[17:14] <TJ-> So... today I was trying to 'ping6' from a server in London back to my laptop PC here. If the firewall on the PC were disabled it worked... great! But, I don't want the world being able to probe the PC. So, first step is to set a default policy of DROP everything on the INPUT table: "ip6tables -P INPUT DROP" ... great. Pings stop getting through.
[17:19] <daftykins> as did everything else? :>
[17:20] <TJ-> Now I want to add a rule to allow IPv6 ICMPv6 echo-request packets in on any wireless interface (which uses the new predictable naming scheme with i/fs starting with "wl") : "ip6tables -A INPUT -i wl+ -p ipv6-icmp -m icmp6 --icmpv6-type echo-request -j ACCEPT"
[17:20] <TJ-> Looks great - except it doesn't work!
[17:21] <TJ-> the packet counters on the policy DROP rule keep increasing. So I change the policy to ACCEPT and the icmpv6 rule counter starts increasing, and the remote gets ping replies.
[17:21] <TJ-> Then I change the policy on INPUT back to DROP and the ping continues for a long time... then fails again!
[17:22] <TJ-> So ... 4 hours of experimenting and scratching my head later, with tcpdump not helping me too much.
[17:22] <TJ-> Then I have the bright idea of adding a LOG target to the INPUT chain and watch the syslog.
[17:23] <TJ-> "ip6tables -A INPUT -i wlp11s0 -j LOG" ... great ... syslog filling with entries rapidly, but strangely the expected DROPS of incoming echo-request (type 128) weren't there, only DROPs of type 135 - weird :s
[17:23] <TJ-> Loooking up type 135 it is "Neighbour Solicitation" ... hmmm AHA!
[17:24] <daftykins> what on earth is that O_O
[17:25] <daftykins> which host did it think was trying to sell it insurance? :)
[17:25] <daftykins> or borrow the mower...
[17:26] <TJ-> NS is built into IPv6, in IPv4 we know it as ARP (Address Resolution Protocol). It's when a device says "WHO HAS IPv4 address a.b.c.d? Tell MAC Address <my Ethernet MAC>" and a.b.c.d sends a packet saying "I HAVE a.b.c.d, my Ethernet MAC is Z"
[17:27] <daftykins> aaaah
[17:27] <TJ-> So, my gateway router was saying "Who Has IPv6 Address 2a02:8011:2007::2, tell <gateway>" but my firewall was DROPing that packet so my PC never replied to the gateway, so the gateway sent a "Destination Unreachable" response back to the remote server that was PINGing
[17:29] <TJ-> So, since the NS request came from the gateway's private IPv6 address, I was able to add a single simple rule to allow all its private traffic in, which covers these NS requests: "ip6tables -A INPUT -s fe80::/16 -i wl+ -p ipv6-icmp -j ACCEPT"
[17:29] <TJ-> Suddenly, ping6 is working reliably :D
[17:30] <TJ-> And now that experience is captured in the logs, so hopefully the explanation and commands will be useful to someone who gets stuck like I was and searches for help
[17:31] <daftykins> so do i understand right that each of your hosts at home will now have an internal fe80... address and also another, internet facing?
[17:31] <TJ-> Yes
[17:32] <TJ-> The fe80:: is everyone's private address space, think like 192.168.0.0/16, or 10.0.0.0/8 in IPv4
[17:32] <daftykins> also i get this feeling that tasks that rely on network scanning, such as adding a network printer will have to have the device actively reply to a broadcast, because it will no longer be found by an exhaustive search because of how long it would take? :D
[17:33] <TJ-> It doesn't work like that. 'discovery' services use Multicast that all devices on that link listen for. We have avahi which is the multicast-DNS service, like Apple bonjour
[17:34] <daftykins> oh ok, i never really sniffed whilst one of such scanners was active to see what it used
[17:34] <daftykins> here's a helpful image for any future acer EFI issues - https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-YBDyodrSfpU/Vj3ABK0g4TI/AAAAAAAAhYQ/w3h6p3b7IOs/w683-h659-no/12208754_908703492540113_2109291744906279860_n.jpg
[17:34] <TJ-> Multicast addresses are defined in the standards. There are a few global addresses that all devices will listen to, and there are ranges where groups of devices can choose to 'subscribe' to an individual address for their own purposes, such as communication amongst clients of a particular application
[17:35] <TJ-> HA HA !! Classic
[17:37] <TJ-> I've got to save that!
[19:01] <daftykins> i'm thinking of telling satelite to purge 'lilo' since it seems to be messing up his/her kernel updates - sound ok? GRUB seems to be in use
[19:04] <OerHeks> strange yes
[19:07] <EriC^^> lilo yikes
[19:07] <EriC^^> that's pretty ancient
[19:11] <daftykins> EriC^^: just a heads up, that guys Asus T100 is more of a tablet 2-in-1 device thing, so not quite as conventional as a netbook as they claimed D:
[19:13] <daftykins> could be intel atom or intel baytrail based
[19:13] <EriC^^> oh
[19:17] <daftykins> the EFI probably has to be accessed through that funny windows reboot menu method
[19:27] <TJ-> You mean REAL power-down; Windows 'FastBoot' is a stupid way of saying 'Hibernate' :)
[19:27] <daftykins> heh, it's more than hibernate though really
[19:27] <daftykins> you might even call it... hybridernate!
[19:28] <OerHeks> is that fastboot not a new way of keeping the system running to obtain updates?
[19:28] <TJ-> it just cooperates with the firmware so the firmware knows to skip some steps in POST and not do any boot-device scanning
[19:29] <TJ-> That's why to disable it you have to go into the Windows Shutdown menu and choose Power Off (or whatever its called)
[19:29] <daftykins> or just run "shutdown -s -t 1" in the run dialogue (Super +R)
[19:29] <daftykins> for a one time run
[19:31] <EriC^^> my dad wants to install win10
[19:31] <TJ-> Amazing that Windows is getting a real shell soon, too, be able to SSH in :)
[19:31] <EriC^^> told him i'd check if win10 would run fine on his laptop Toshiba Satellite L55 B5267
[19:31] <EriC^^> anybody know anything about it?
[19:32] <TJ-> Yeah... 75% certain it'll get infected by malware... but not if he uses Ubuntu
[19:32] <daftykins> EriC^^: which Windows did it come with?
[19:32] <EriC^^> he needs windows though for accounting stuff
[19:32] <EriC^^> win8.1
[19:33] <daftykins> ah that should be fine then, worst case scenario some onboard audio quirks - i'd just check whether it needs any software utilities to handle the controls e.g. brightness, volume etc - and check if the toshiba site has them for download
[19:34] <daftykins> and as always with any OS (imo but Windows the most) i'd do a full format and not just rely on the upgrade
[19:35] <EriC^^> sounds good
[19:36] <EriC^^> says here also upgrade to windows 10 for free
[19:36] <EriC^^> http://www.microcenter.com/product/444733/satellite_l55-b5267_156_laptop_computer_refurbished_-_satin_gold
[19:36] <EriC^^> i think it's like upgrade friendly probably?
[19:37] <daftykins> oh yeah that's plenty recent
[19:37] <EriC^^> my dad doesn't know a lot about computers, i think it took us 2-3hours on the phone to make a live lubuntu usb once to try on his older pc
[19:37] <daftykins> i get some quirks on my asus sandybridge from 4 years ago or more, but it works fine :)
[19:37] <daftykins> ouch :D
[19:37] <EriC^^> at the end i told him, fiddle around, get creative, next time we talked i dont remember what he did exactly but i was like what? no dont be creative anymore
[19:37] <EriC^^> lol
[19:38] <daftykins> XD
[19:38] <EriC^^> he really went for it :D
[19:38] <daftykins> well, i'd get him to do a backup naturally then let the upgrade run (since it's the way you convert the license, so to speak) and create a flash drive with Microsoft's own 10 ISO downloader so you can get a true clean install done
[19:38] <daftykins> be a bit of a pain if you're not there in person though i guess
[19:39] <daftykins> there's really no need to upgrade for most
[19:39] <daftykins> i'm not bothering to let any clients upgrade, proper business ones
[19:41] <OerHeks> let me guess, abb4s is on an unsupported 13.10 / 14.10
[19:42] <EriC^^> i think i'll give it a go, he really wants win10 i think
[19:42] <daftykins> OerHeks: or Mint ;)
[19:42] <OerHeks> or fedora
[19:42] <OerHeks> :-D
[19:42] <EriC^^> worse case if it messes up big time i'll just help him fix it when he's here in person
[19:43] <daftykins> EriC^^: oh one other thing would be to burn the recovery DVDs with the manufacturer utility before upgrade
[19:43] <daftykins> you know the ones that let you clean install from? they're always good just in case
[19:43] <EriC^^> yeah definitely
[19:44] <daftykins> i don't trust the recovery partitions :D
[19:44] <EriC^^> yeah me neither :D
[19:44] <daftykins> in fact i nuke all machines i set up, partly to reclaim that disk space ;)
[19:45] <EriC^^> ;)
[19:45] <daftykins> EriC^^: oh one thing that might be useful to know, is that an update should be coming to windows 10 soon (<3 weeks) that will basically update 10 to being how it should've been at release
[19:45] <EriC^^> oh, cool!
[19:46] <daftykins> as we speak i'm trying to get my spare machine to update to the latest build, but it's being stubborn right now :>
[19:46] <EriC^^> :D
[19:48] <daftykins> now that i've passed LFS101x on edx.org i'm going to read the second half of the course material XD
[19:48] <daftykins> hmm, how to setup NFS shares - do i care?
[19:49] <EriC^^> :D
[19:49] <daftykins> it's tough really to try and learn Linuxy things when you don't have a practical application for them
[19:49] <EriC^^> is that the one where you make a game in scratch?
[19:49] <EriC^^> yeah that's true
[19:50] <daftykins> nah, just really basic stuff like an intro to the OS in general... bit of command line, tiny bit of bash scripting is coming up too i think
[19:50] <EriC^^> cool
[19:50] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/0xe5qpai5yecabf/edx.JPG?dl=0
[19:50] <daftykins> there we go, that's the start sections
[19:51] <daftykins> maybe i should just move on to the sys admin one
[19:51] <TJ-> I shadowed Eddie on the edX Python programming course 3 years ago; they were still working the bugs out of the software then and the tests were a real mess
[19:51] <TJ-> Has it improved?
[19:52] <daftykins> well i ran through the final exams twice thinking all i had to do was pick an answer then save, but kept wondering why it didn't give me a result
[19:52] <daftykins> seemed to be i had to click 'check' on each question page too, then it worked and totted up the scores - bit tedious though
[19:53] <daftykins> i think that's because my one gives you two chances to answer each question
[19:54] <TJ-> Yes, that Check thing was fun - sometimes it wouldn't allow the correct number of attempts, other times it would never recognise the correct answer, and other times the 'correct' answer was actually wrong so no-one got it
[19:55] <EriC^^> :D
[19:55] <daftykins> lol oh dear
[19:55] <daftykins> i had my accident whilst working on the first version of LFS101x ("Introduction to Linux") so it was already on v2 by the time i gave it a try the other night
[19:55] <daftykins> i even have a certificate! :P
[19:57] <TJ-> :D
[19:57] <TJ-> I ended up contributing patches to the marking system
[19:57] <TJ-> But never got a cert :p
[19:58] <TJ-> The problem was grad students were being left to run it, and they knew less than the professor, and were overworked and underresourced
[19:58] <daftykins> mmm sounds about right
[19:59] <daftykins> so i guess despite this having some fancy professor on the front, it's really his research Ph.D. lackeys doing the groundwork :D
[19:59] <TJ-> I'm going to write a 'snippets' tool on my web-site for all these often-repeated instructions for acpi_osi and so-on, so there's a nice short URL to give people instead of typing it repeatedly
[19:59] <TJ-> Well yes, that makes sense, especially as there's little to no income
[20:00] <daftykins> sounds like a plan, what about an !acpi factoid ?
[20:00] <OerHeks> but there is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI
[20:00] <daftykins> hmm none of those have the same aspect
[20:01] <TJ-> OerHeks: I just want a simple text-only link that people can use to easily copy/paste into their shell
[20:01] <TJ-> It can be fetched using curl for example as a script, or whatever
[20:02] <EriC^^> i made a tiny game in scratch once from the cs course i was trying, didnt really continue it just made the scratch game
[20:02] <EriC^^> http://skate.orgfree.com/
[20:03] <TJ-> I'm actually planning on putting my entire /usr/local/bin/ as a shared sshfs accesible resource so folks can mount it and use the latest without messing about
[20:03] <EriC^^> spacebar to kickflip, h to heelflip
[20:03] <EriC^^> lol
[20:07] <daftykins> hehe so many folks trip up over the " for the ACPI stuff :>
[20:08] <TJ-> Yes, it is confusing for non-programmer types
[20:10] <daftykins> guess i'll play with NFS just for the fun of it
[20:47] <daftykins> well that's fun, all i get is the mount command stalling :) i wonder what's going on here!
[20:49] <TJ-> mixing nfsv4 with nfsv3? no rpc running on the server? no idmap configured?
[20:51] <daftykins> hehe, even more basic than that - service not running on the server 8D
[20:51] <daftykins> didn't pay enough attention to package installation output - showing it wouldn't be running at all post install - until /etc/exports is setup
[20:51] <daftykins> little bit surprised that ubuntu lets the service be called the very un-memorable 'nfs-kernel-server'
[20:52] <EriC^^> suspend logs are so exciting
[20:53] <daftykins> lol
[20:56] <TJ-> :D
[20:56] <TJ-> They're the life and soul of the ATH0^
[20:56] <TJ-> oops, disconnected!
[21:30] <TJ-> Hmmmm, I've got an order in for a Tesla S P85D, but wondering now about the new Apple Faraday Future. Would I dare own Apple!?
[21:32] <daftykins> not if i were you ;)
[21:32] <OerHeks> TJ-, buy VW
[21:32] <TJ-> :D
[21:32] <TJ-> OerHeks: I couldn't manage an entire company!
[21:33] <OerHeks> Oh, that is why daftykins and me are here
[21:33] <daftykins> XD
[21:33] <daftykins> yeah we have to eat, too ;)
[21:34] <OerHeks> daftykins needs new tyres, and a cat-door
[21:34] <TJ-> That'll make him draftykins :D
[21:34] * OerHeks wants just a laptop with 32gb & 2x msata
[21:35] <daftykins> haha, you say that but i often get called that in #ubutu ;)
[21:36] <OerHeks> some say DerHeks
[21:36] <OerHeks> "wipe your screen, silly!"
[21:38] <TJ-> oh, I'm saved! Other research seems to indicate that FF is actually owned by a massive Chinese conglomerate, Leshi Internet & Technology, so I'll only have buggy firmware and the car will problaby talk Chinglish!
[21:39] <OerHeks> password 0000
[21:39] <OerHeks> (hardcoded)
[21:40] <DosTuMai> GPS: Wad go there for liao? Oso geng hao go jin cheng leh.
[21:40] <TJ-> LOL
[21:40] <TJ-> I can actually here that in my head
[21:41] <TJ-> s/here/hear/
[21:41] <DosTuMai> xD
[21:41] <DosTuMai> Might see if I can get my GPS to talk in Singlish...
[21:56] <MonkeyDust> similar to Franglais?
[22:08] <daftykins> this tlt guy seems to be captain guess-the-possible-options
[22:13] <daftykins> i don't like the look of the PCI entry in ksft's paste - http://termbin.com/ukcr
[22:13] <daftykins> doesn't even come up with a name for the nvidia device
[22:13] <DosTuMai> MonkeyDust: I think so. Sing/Chinglish is a mashup of English & Chinese.
[22:14] <EriC^^> i think those butterflies the black ones have to be the stupidest creatures in the universe
[22:15] <EriC^^> one entered my room and is super hyper active turning around in circles in the middle, then goes to the lamp, gets burned, goes in circles again then runs head on into the lamp again
[22:16] <daftykins> :D
[22:16] <daftykins> we mostly get moths doing that
[22:16] <EriC^^> it's like oh look a light bulb, *runs straight into it and gets burned and leaves* then oh look a light bulb etc. etc.
[22:17] <daftykins> poor blighters use the sun to navigate, so think it's their path from what i understand - but then it's not like they fly up into space when they're outdoors
[22:17] <TJ-> daftykins: that ksft lspci is likely because the GPU wasn't released when the PCI tables were compiled
[22:17] <EriC^^> yeah i think it's a moth, it finally entered into the ceiling fan's metal thingy and i can hear it bouncing in it
[22:17] <TJ-> Using "lspci -nn" is preferrable since that always gives you the Vendor:Device IDs so you can check it
[22:17] <EriC^^> daftykins: lol, yeah
[22:18] <TJ-> but also, "sudo update-pciids" will fetch the latest ID tables, so that lspci should then report correctly
[22:18] <daftykins> ah yeah i remember you mentioning that one
[22:18] <DosTuMai> It's the moth's navigation software glitching. They use the moon and stars to navigate by keeping it at a certain angle in their eyes. Kinda backfires with lights.
[22:18] <daftykins> i would've thought neither would stop it working properly though, as the nvidia driver is up to date
[22:18] <daftykins> DosTuMai: ah so they're more nocturnal
[22:19] <TJ-> daftykins: correct, this is just coesmtic for human recognition
[22:19] <DosTuMai> Yah, it'll be a moth most likely. If you had a pic, I could probably identify it. =]
[22:20] <daftykins> EriC^^: pics or it didn't happen ;)
[22:22] <EriC^^> it's in the ceiling fan's metal thingy right now, i can see it walking around in it
[22:22] <daftykins> d'aww
[22:23] <EriC^^> dunno if it can't figure out how to leave
[22:23] <EriC^^> or it's like i'll sleep in this metal nest tonight
[22:23] <DosTuMai> Most likely not. Poor thing.
[22:24] <EriC^^> if i turn the fan on, it will fatality it
[22:24] <EriC^^> lol, i'll probably try to help it out in a bit
[22:25] <TJ-> vaccuum cleaner!
[22:26] <EriC^^> it's odd, i dont see it anymore
[22:26] <daftykins> ok i've no idea how to continue if anyone has any ideas for ksft
[22:27] <daftykins> i don't fancy delving into fixing a steam install just so he can try running the game again ;)
[22:35] <TJ-> did you ask if the user has removed the fluff from the radiator recently?
[22:42] <daftykins> claims the machine is a week old, so it'd be odd for it to be built up that quick, mmm
[22:42] <daftykins> maybe a reinstall of the nvidia packages will provoke something ;) (nah i'm not holding my breath!)
[22:42] <daftykins> i'm gonna get some food prepared
[22:43] <TJ-> I'm off to bed :)
[22:43] <daftykins> so early!
[22:43] <daftykins> nn sir!
[22:44] <TJ-> I didn't get to bed last night, had a nap today whilst it was raining, so trying to get hours back to normal
[22:46] <OerHeks> my dog don't mind walking at nighttimes
[22:50] <TJ-> The Huskies loved their 4am walk this morning :) We got back just as the rain started.
[23:19] <daftykins> looks like ksft got reset again but didn't come back!
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[01:54] <CyrusYzGTt> adam8157§ ..我用 debian 8.2 amd64 了
[01:55] <adam8157> CyrusYzGTt: 乖
[01:55] <CyrusYzGTt> adam8157§ 怎么降级 从backpoorts 的包，回到 main contrib non-free
[01:56] <CyrusYzGTt> adam8157§ 就是 stable
[01:57] <CyrusYzGTt> adam8157§ 还有debian 怎么更新 fas ,
[01:57] <adam8157> CyrusYzGTt: -t jessie ?
[01:57] <adam8157> CyrusYzGTt: 母鸡啊
[01:58] <CyrusYzGTt> adam8157§ 之前不小心默认启用 jessie-backports
[01:58] <CyrusYzGTt> adam8157§ 导致libreoffice 还有 其他问题
[01:59] <kandu> adam8157: 噹噹哥哥早
[02:00] <kandu> CyrusYzGTt: 没设定优先权，没 -t jessie-backports 不会从 backports 里面装东西的
[02:00] <CyrusYzGTt> kandu§ 我是启用， /etc/apt/source.list
[02:01] <CyrusYzGTt> deb http://ftp.tw.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main contrib non-free
[02:01] <ubrl> ⇪ f: Index of /debian
[02:01] <kandu> CyrusYzGTt: 所以，不是 backports 的问题
[02:02] <CyrusYzGTt> kandu§ 为么， debian wiki 说要用 -t ,, 不要默认启用
[02:02] <kandu> CyrusYzGTt: sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports dist-upgrade
[02:02] <kandu> CyrusYzGTt: 有没有 office 的更新?
[02:03] <CyrusYzGTt> kandu§ 现在不是 libreoffice 的问题了，是 其他问题，， 自上次 apt-get -t jessie-backports dist-upgrade
[02:03] <kandu> CyrusYzGTt: ...
[02:03] <CyrusYzGTt> kandu§ 现在不是 libreoffice 的问题了，是 其他问题，， 自上次 sudo su -c"apt-get update ; apt-get -y upgrade ; apt-get -y dist-upgrade ; apt-get -y dselect-upgrade "
[02:04] <kandu> CyrusYzGTt: 既然都 -t jessie-backports 过了. 自求多福
[02:04] <CyrusYzGTt> kandu§ 就是默认启用了，，jessie-backports
[02:04] <kandu> CyrusYzGTt: 我以前是看 log, 手动恢复的
[02:05] <CyrusYzGTt> kandu§ . 为么，没有 类似 dnf downgrade ..
[02:12] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: http://xiaohua.zol.com.cn/detail1/13065.html 不能让祖先老落后 : ——真怪,700多年前的《马可·波罗》里,大夫们用的银针竟与我们今天用的一模一样。——看了《神医扁鹊》你会更奇怪的,2000多年前的扁鹊用的也是这样的银针,不过——我倒想得通。——哦?为什么?——时代变
[02:12] <^k^> ─> 了,也不能让咱们的祖先老落后啊！
[02:52] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu故事和感慨 • 终于把Ubuntu折腾地像个样子了 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473739 我现在的版本为15.10 64位版。 我从2008年开始使用Ubuntu，那时候看高清还不会硬件加速。第一台使用Ubuntu的机器把CPU烧掉了。 但是Linux有很多优点，比如说计算一个文件md5值，直接md5sum就行
[03:20] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 14.04 LTS • 请教一下，ubuntu启动ss-qt5之后，数据依然无法通过ss代理 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473740 SS确认是没有问题的，但是设置代理后，查看日志没有流量通过SS QQ截图20151107104332.pngQQ截图20151107104305.png zz: ziwii — 2015-11-07 10:59
[05:22] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • 移动硬盘一部分分配给ubuntu，卸载ubuntu会影响其它部分吗？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473741 安装ubuntu时，移动硬盘连着电脑，结果ubuntu装在移动硬盘上了。移动硬盘原来有465GB，装了ubuntu后剩下约330GB（划分出来给ubuntu的是叫虚拟分区？)。我想卸载
[05:22] <^k^> ─> ubuntu，听说要格式化分区，会不会连那330GB也一起格式化了？还是可以只格式化分配给ubu …
[05:38] <^k^> 逛了一下论坛,暂时无新贴.
[06:41] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • ubuntu无法识别数据线连接的手机以及无法接受蓝牙文件 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473742 如题 手机为华为P8 lsusb下无法找到我的手机 Bus 004 Device 003: ID 0a5c:21e1 Broadcom Corp. HP Portable SoftSailing Bus 004 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub Bus 004
[06:41] <^k^> ─> Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 003 Device 004: ID 05c8:0341 Cheng Uei Precision Industry …
[07:07] <^k^> 新 字体美化和中文支持 • Fcitx使用相关问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473743 1、在中文输入法中，如何让Shift+4输入$而不是￥，写LaTeX文档的时候来回切换输入法太麻烦了。 2、如何实现Shift键临时切换中英文输入？我按一下Shift，然后中文输入法就关了，再按Shift就切不回
[07:07] <^k^> ─> 来了。 zz: yufw — 2015-11-07 15:06
[07:07] <ulot0> 华为的手机不知华为在手机上做了些什么，很多都不支持
[07:16] <gebjgd> ulot0, 不支持什么
[07:25] <cherrot> BSD 和 ubuntu 下的 date 和 stat 完全不一样的用法 真是蛋疼。。
[07:51] <^k^> 逛了一下论坛,暂时无新贴.
[07:52] <^k^> 新 Shell脚本 • 请教 bash 里怎么才能用原始的正则表达式？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473744 #!/usr/bin/env bash find . -regex ".*\(\.\(ak\|au\|ax\)\|~\)" 如上，开始还可以，后来文件类型多了，这个就太长了，也不容易读。 后面这个正则表达式，怎么能让它像 perl 或 javascript 里那样简单
[07:52] <^k^> ─> ，不要这么多转义？ 我希望表达式部分能像下面这样用，请教要怎么做才能达到？ #!/us …
[08:01] <^k^> 新 桌面特效 • cairo-dock开启混合启动器对个别程序不起作用 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473745 cairo-dock开启混合启动器对个别程序不起作用(chrome,sublime text) 2015-11-07.png 还有就是在cairo-dock点击sublime text无法打开应用，而需要右键再点击New Windows才能打开 不知道是什么原因 能不
[08:01] <^k^> ─> 能修复 zz: 烈焰火凤 — 2015-11-07 16:00
[08:43] <MangHuo> test
[08:43] <ubrl> MangHuo:点点点. 16:41
[08:48] <onlylove_> MangHuo: tset
[08:49] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 你咋周末也在啊
[08:59] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 没有
[08:59] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 我就是测试一下我的新显示器
[08:59] <MangHuo> onlylove_: nnd，运气不好，有黑点
[09:00] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 你搞毛线，测试新显示器不是用debug么，你用这个测？
[09:00] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 啥叫 debug
[09:01] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 是酱紫的，我不测新显示器的话，周末我就不开电脑
[09:01] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 晓得伐
[09:01] <onlylove_> MangHuo: dos的debug模式
[09:02] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 可以在屏上画各种颜色的线和格子
[09:02] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 或者用张pe盘，现在很多pe带显示器测试程序，displayX
[09:03] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 不需要啊
[09:03] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 黑点比亮点强多了
[09:03] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 我就显示一下单色图片看看亮点坏点
[09:03] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 恩，基本上看不见
[09:03] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 换了一台，但愿别有亮点
[09:03] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 基本上黑点就当好的处理的
[09:03] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 是么
[09:04] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 如果批量买
[09:04] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 好吧
[09:04] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 不管它，找狗东换
[09:04] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 你要是非要完美屏，那没办法
[09:04] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 狗东的？换啊！
[09:04] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 当然啊
[09:04] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 不给完美屏就一直换
[09:04] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 不过这种大个头的不能上门换新不爽
[09:05] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 得先把这个拿走才给我发来新的
[09:08] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 可以上门换新就赞了
[09:10] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 如果是傻多戴就更要换了，戴尔把售后的工作外包给物流了
[09:10] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 反正超级恶心就是了
[09:13] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 说起来还真有个 freedos 的 u盘
[09:13] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 还是得装什么工具才可以测试吧
[09:13] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 不用
[09:13] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • 把15.10系统装到u盘里面的问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473746 因为笔记本电脑的硬盘坏了，所以想把ubuntu15.10安装到u盘上，笔记本没有光驱，平时装系统都是u盘装的，这次我一个金士顿的制作成安装光盘，进了liveCD试用后，插了另一个闪迪的u盘准备
[09:13] <^k^> ─> 做系统盘，我把u盘都格空了，就只想做系统，但是完了之后，只插闪迪盘的时候，屏幕 …
[09:13] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 直接敲debug，进debug模式敲指令
[09:14] <onlylove_> MangHuo: http://baike.baidu.com/link?url=eDSQtkkb7hSyn1X1MMtiyxHiSEz_3BTX436zg6uKOIv9HWZ108GMr0AS5EO7KKMxbt5dy2X2JMU_d479M26Iza
[09:14] <ubrl> ⇪ t: debug命令_百度百科
[09:16] <MangHuo> onlylove_: freedos 也有么
[09:16] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 这个感觉是内部命令啊……freedos应该有实现吧？
[09:17] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 没有看到有关于显示器的
[09:17] <onlylove_> MangHuo: -o
[09:17] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 测显示器自己找，我给你这个只是告诉你，有这么个东西
[09:18] <onlylove_> MangHuo: http://zhidao.baidu.com/link?url=dOYbRGvPCiyjm9oV28Yacr46NvYe_Ajn3Fy8LsihRQduAOTAeAWmYiIydVrFYtWGW5sou6MeDvNV-zDrG5ryMq
[09:18] <ubrl> onlylove_: ⇪ 请问,在DOS下用DEBUG命令怎样来测LCD屏幕亮点?_百度知道
[09:18] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 好吧
[09:19] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 因为现在很多机器都预装dos，所以这个用起来特方便
[09:20] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 如果是卖场的话，直接能吓坏销售
[09:22] * onlylove_ IT身份彻底暴露
[09:26] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 唉
[09:27] <MangHuo> o
[09:27] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 20 多的显示器
[09:27] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 你有推荐么
[09:27] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 么有
[09:28] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 这种土豪事情，你要找大象和土豪马这种档次的
[09:28] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 1000 左右嘛
[09:29] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 不至于多豪
[09:29] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 我自己没台式机啊……我不在意那些……
[09:29] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 已经念叨这个好久了
[09:30] <MangHuo> onlylove_: dell 不靠谱是么
[09:30] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 渣东上那么多啊，你挑个能满足你要求的就行，看看端口全不全，1000左右的端口应该不全
[09:30] <onlylove_> MangHuo: dell靠谱，但是售后渣
[09:31] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 1000左右的，要么没hdmi要么没dvi要么没vga
[09:31] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 那我不需要
[09:37] <lainme> 在用几百元的渣渣显示器
[09:44] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 刚信用卡扣钱了，我也不知道咋弄得，算了下，倒是刚好是账单减去退款金额
[09:45] <onlylove_> lainme: 你对显示器没要求，你瞅论坛三八那样搞印刷的，给他个破显示器，能逼疯他
[09:46] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 我因为不知道怎么扣，所以在绑定的借记卡里面放了足够多钱，反正这月是没事了
[10:11] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • Hyper-v安装ubuntu遇到图中情况该怎么办？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473747 喜欢捣鼓电脑，刚接触Linux，用Hyper-v装系统遇到图中情况，反复试了两次都是这样 教程是按照这个来的，http://jingyan.baidu.com/article/3f16e003e6e16a2591c103d9.html 这种情况该怎么办？好
[10:11] <^k^> ─> 想尝试下Ubuntu 望有人解答，谢谢~ zz: CapTainnn — 2015-11-07 16:53
[11:09] <^k^> 新 桌面特效 • 获取系统新主题、壁纸 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473757 Ubuntu新手，刚从ArchLinux转过来的，请多指教 如题 zz: CasanovaLee — 2015-11-07 18:43
[11:48] <ubuntu1> hi
[11:48] <ubrl> ubuntu1:点点点. 19:45
[11:50] <linux> hello
[11:50] <ubrl> linux:点点点. 19:47
[11:50] <linux> linux ppa9100h@
[11:51] <linux> linux ppa9100h@
[11:56] <linux> hello
[11:56] <ubrl> linux:点点点. 19:53
[11:57] <linux> hello
[11:57] <ubrl> linux:点点点. 19:54
[11:57] <linux> ubrl, 注册帐号的命令是什么？
[12:12] <nipsing> 丑陋的中国人
[12:36] <nipsing> 惡棍
[12:42] <onlylove_> 美国人没恶棍？
[12:43] <onlylove_> 还是英国人没有？
[12:43] <onlylove_> 最后总结下，丑陋的人类，丑陋的地球人
[12:46] <nipsing> 掌聲在哪裏
[13:10] <^k^> 新 校园网拨号 • Ubuntu15.04系统联网问题---绞尽脑汁解决不了，求大神指导！！！ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473758 新装的Ubuntu系统，双系统（Windows10），连不上网（显示有网络连接，但是浏览器刷不开）。我用的网是校园网，需要用锐捷客户端，但是装不上，提示错误是“
[13:10] <^k^> ─> 请指定dhcp的方式”。然后我上网查了，dhcp是分配IP地址方式的协议：动态指定和静态指 …
[14:02] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • 求助15.04安装问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473759 主板华硕B85 pro gamer,显卡蓝宝石 R9 370X,U盘安装，从U盘启动，点击install ubuntu后，后面就是黑屏或者花屏了，电脑就没反应了，只能强制关机。请问这是什么问题，怎么解决。 zz: qustmath — 2015-11-07 22:02
[14:05] <ngkaho1234> 這頻道我都有起碼3個月沒有來
[14:12] <nipsing> 鼓掌
[15:33] <RivDo> 这个时间都睡了吧。在线人数怎么还这么多。。
[15:47] <ngkaho1234> 我不知道
[15:47] <ngkaho1234> 大多是掛機的
[15:47] <ngkaho1234> RivDo: 這很正常
[15:49] <RivDo> 我添加PPA有问题能帮我解决下么？
[15:49] <ngkaho1234> 不能，我是用archlinux的，不知道你這個ubuntu怎麼套路
[15:49] <ngkaho1234> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SjQBOaqS7U
[15:49] <ubrl> ngkaho1234: ⇪ Techno 2015 Hands Up(Best of 2014)60 Min Mega Remix(Mix) #13 - YouTube
[15:49] <RivDo> Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:~kubuntu-ppa/ubuntu/next'.
[15:49] <RivDo> The team named '~kubuntu-ppa' has no PPA named 'ubuntu/next'
[15:49] <RivDo> Please choose from the following available PPAs:
[15:49] <RivDo> * 'backports': Kubuntu Backports
[15:49] <RivDo> * 'beta': Kubuntu Beta Backports
[15:49] <RivDo> * 'experimental': Kubuntu Experimental
[15:49] <^k^> RivDo:. .., 别刷屏，超过6行 大段文字 请贴至paste.ubuntu.com +q 23s
[15:49] <ngkaho1234> 一起haai
[15:50] <ngkaho1234> 睡你媽屄，起來嗐
[15:50] <RivDo> 额。刚好6行被禁言。。
[15:50] <ngkaho1234> RivDo: 是，這是#ubuntu-cn
[15:51] <ngkaho1234> 這頻道就是這樣
[15:52] <RivDo> 想用kde5但是不能添加ppa挺无奈的。
[15:52] <ngkaho1234> 我怎麼知道...
[15:52] <ngkaho1234> pacman -S plasma-next :-)
[15:52] <ngkaho1234> 哈哈
[15:53] <ngkaho1234> 應該是pacman -S plasma
[15:53] <RivDo> 好多挂机。我感觉今晚只能睡觉了
[15:53] <ngkaho1234> 誰叫你用ubuntu
[15:54] <ngkaho1234> :-P
[15:54] <ngkaho1234> 不用不是什麼是也沒有了？
[15:54] <ngkaho1234> 事
[15:55] <RivDo> 谁让我新人:P不懂什么linux好用
[15:55] <ngkaho1234> 新人去fedora
[15:56] <ngkaho1234> ;-)
[15:56] <RivDo> 以前也想过fedora 。只是我电脑挺奇葩的。我能装好的就只有ubuntu了。
[15:57] <ngkaho1234> 你只要不是給個2007年的電腦，都可以裝好
[15:57] <ngkaho1234> 和你用什麼發行版關係不大
[15:57] <ngkaho1234> 況且，archlinux文檔最豐富
[15:58] <ngkaho1234> 這簡直是讓linux白癡平滑起步
[15:59] <RivDo> :)各种引导卡死不动我也无奈。就想着先找个linux学着做起步，学着学着或许就能解决不能别的系统的问题了
[15:59] <ngkaho1234> 引導卡死？你直接把其他系統幹掉不就不會卡死了麼
[16:00] <ngkaho1234> 反正我接管電腦都是直接全盤format作btrfs然後灌個arvh
[16:00] <RivDo> 。。。我指的是引导安装。我安装哪一步会卡住的。。
[16:00] <ngkaho1234> 那是你的問題了
[16:01] <ngkaho1234> 反正可以告訴您的是，不需要什麼特殊操作，灌一個archlinux啓動也就5分鐘以內的事情，前提是你是ssd
[16:01] <ngkaho1234> 卡住的話我就不知道你搞什麼了
[16:01] <ngkaho1234> 反正是沒有特別
[16:02] <RivDo> :)但我还得学习用 windows还是必须要的。只能双系统玩玩络。
[16:02] <ngkaho1234> windows必須？
[16:02] <ngkaho1234> 買回來就幹掉
[16:02] <ngkaho1234> 第一件事
[16:02] <RivDo> 恩 毕竟还得用各类教学软件呢。。
[16:03] <ngkaho1234> 是嗎？有什麼特殊的教學軟件
[16:03] <RivDo> 嗯 就远程电子教室之类的东西啊。
[16:04] <ngkaho1234> 什麼玩意，能吃不
[16:04] <ngkaho1234> 刺身？3成熟靚牛扒？
[16:05] <RivDo> 叫红蜘蛛。或许能烤着吃吧， 想想我都无从下口。
[16:05] <ngkaho1234> https://www.google.com.hk/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=KyE-VrDFO_PC8Ae4-ojYBw#q=%E9%81%A0%E7%A8%8B%E9%9B%BB%E5%AD%90%E6%95%99%E5%AE%A4
[16:05] <ubrl> ⇪ t: Google
[16:05] <ngkaho1234> 看到了，這名字看着我就覺得好笑....
[16:06] <ngkaho1234> 這不是你的私人pc把
[16:06] <RivDo> 是私人的啊。
[16:07] <ngkaho1234> 私人裝這種玩意幹什麼...
[16:07] <RivDo> 学生都自己带电脑的。
[16:07] <ngkaho1234> 那買兩臺吧
[16:08] <RivDo> 就是看老师演示毕竟方便而已 。两台的话想想都感觉重。
[16:08] <ngkaho1234> 那你去用windows吧
[16:08] <ngkaho1234> 就當你不知道linux
[16:08] <ngkaho1234> :-D
[16:10] <RivDo> :)新世界的大门已经向我敞开了。还是喜欢linux多一点。
[16:10] <ngkaho1234> 喜歡就卸載win那
[16:10] <ngkaho1234> 找這麼多藉口...
[16:10] <ngkaho1234> 嘿嘿
[16:12] <RivDo> 也是 ，买块ssd就能解决了。
[16:13] <ngkaho1234> 這個是必須的
[16:13] <ngkaho1234> ssd+btrfs
[18:05] <yllr> :)
[23:54] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • PC兼容机 安装ubuntu elementary freya 黑屏 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473761 尝试安装ubuntu 14.04 和elementary freya 用U盘，和easybcd 硬盘安装进入能够看到启动菜单，然后选择任意一个菜单项进入系统，然后就黑屏。 网上也找了一些文章说是BIOS设置问题，但也未
[23:54] <^k^> ─> 找到正确方法进行安装（也用ubuntu 14.04的/EFI/boot/grubx64.efi 替换也无果） viewtopic.php?t=8753 …
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[00:08] <Guest50370> Hello everybody i make first webapp successfully and install it on my nexus 4 . but i have an issue on webapp. there isn't any touch Button for select next , Previous ,home pages.
[11:00] <popey> jplatte, looks like mediascanner is built with dbgsyms - e.g. https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-031/+build/8228121
[11:01] <popey> jplatte, so one could find out what version of mediascanner you have on your device, and find the debugsyms in that ppa (or another)
[12:21] <ursinus> greetings
[12:22] <ursinus> Is this channel for apps being developed for ubuntu or on ubuntu
[12:22] <ogra_> thats a funny question :)
[12:22] <DanChapman> ursinus: it's generally "for ubuntu"
[12:22] <ursinus> u think so?
[12:23] <ursinus> k
[12:23] <ogra_> (most apps that are developed for ubuntu are developed on ubuntu i'd guess)
[12:23] <DanChapman> and developed on ubuntu
[12:23] <DanChapman> :-D
[12:23] <ursinus> I work on ubuntu making
[12:23] <ursinus> "platform independent" apps
[12:24] <ursinus> mostly end up wrapping them as exe files
[12:26] <ursinus> so what domain do you people work on... python, java, c++?
[19:22] <Guest58624> hello
[23:31] <Kivi> I used ubuntu make to install android studio... It seems to be installed without avd?
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[16:55] <mitya57> Can someone please reject pyflakes in xenial NEW? See debian #804319 & debian #804320
[17:09] <cjwatson> xnox: ^- pls fix pyflakes kthxbye :)
[17:09] <cjwatson> mitya57: done
[17:13] <mitya57> ta
[20:50] <psusi> does anyone know why gnome-keyring-daemon is no longer set to --components gpg in 15.10? without it gpg-agent is used instead, but that is not set up correctly to prompt for the password in the gui
[22:21] <psusi> is UDD kind of dead? I seem to keep seeing more and more packages that do not have an up to date bzr branch
[22:33] <psusi> hrm... strange... pinentry-gnome3 is listed as task: ubuntu-desktop, yet ubuntu-desktop does not depend on it, so it has not been installed after upgrading from vivid... why is this?
[22:52] <cjwatson> psusi: We haven't got round to getting UDD running for xenial yet. But it's also essentially unmaintained and will probably be replaced by dgit as soon as we get that working with LP
[22:52] <cjwatson> (by coincidence, I'm working on one of the requirements for that at the moment)
[22:53] <cjwatson> ubuntu-desktop Recommends: gnome-keyring Depends: pinentry-gnome3
[23:58] <psusi> cjwatson, hrm... it depends on pinentry-gnome3 | pinentry.. for some reason when I upgraded I got pinentry instead of pinentry-gnome3
[23:59] <psusi> shouldn't ubuntu-desktop force pinentry-gnome3 instead?
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[22:26] <Vlado2> Hi
[22:36] <Vlado2> i would like to make a feature request: support to make new intall using file system level encryption on system partition (EXT4 and F2FS) instead of using LUKS, FS level encryption provides lower memory consumption and better performance
[22:42] <Vlado2> apw, bdmurray, CarlFK, carvite, cjwatson, cody-somerville, DalekSec, danjared, Fudge, higgins, infinity, jibel, maxb, mpt, ogra_, psivaa, rickardve, sti
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-ops
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jrv_, Also installs spyware like software to use mic and camera without user consent...
[01:56] <bazhang> chrome does that?
[01:56] <bazhang> news to me
[01:56] <Flannel> bazhang: The "ok google" thing that was in it for a bit, I presume is what he's talking about.
[01:57] <bazhang> Flannel, cheers, not heard of it til just now
[06:28] <gav> Excuse me
[06:28] <gav> I was +q in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[06:28] <gav> This is silly and pointless.
[06:29] <gav> I'd like to request that I be banned or the quiet removed. Making me sit there forever without being heard is cruel and unusual
[06:30] <Unit193> I see why, you spammed thus were muted. You clearly knew it was annoying too, as you "apologized" "in advance" for it. In that case, let me recommend you a new command, /part #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:31] <gav> We all know that isn't likely to happen
[06:32] <Unit193> We all know you aren't likely to part? But yet you'd like a ban as a mute is "cruel"? Anyway, why did you feel it necessary to spam in the first place?
[06:34] <Unit193> gav: Will you please stop spamming?
[06:34] <gav> Now I will, yes
[06:34] <gav> Thank you, and good evening
[06:35] <Unit193> Troll.
[06:40] <valorie> this is called in small children "acting out"
[06:40] <valorie> you would think people would grow out of this sort of silliness by puberty
[09:12] <Unit193> XenuLives in #ubuntu.
[09:12] <Flannel> I'm pretty sure that's not where Xenu lives.
[09:13] <Unit193> Hah. :D
[21:14] <valorie> I don't see what happenedwith xenulives -- klined I would hope?
[21:14] <Unit193> Removed, rejoined, didn't make much of a mess so was left alone.
[21:14] <valorie> huh
[21:17] <valorie> I'll write a ban for #u-w then
[21:18] <Unit193> Likely will just change IPs, fwiw.
[22:42] <valorie> yeah
[22:42] <valorie> I've not had time to do it, so probably won't
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.114660
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-mythtv
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[17:43] <skd5aner> Hello - I've got a basic ubuntu server install where I've installed mythtv from source on it. LiRC has been working fine for years, but I upgraded from 14.10 --> 15.04 and LIRC stopped working
[17:44] <skd5aner> so, I upgraded from 15.04 --> 15.10, still doesn't work
[17:44] <skd5aner> I've got an MCEUSB IR receiver... but nothing is working on mode2 or irw
[17:45] <skd5aner> It's on a USB2 port (not USB3, I've read that can cause issues)
[17:45] <skd5aner> when I send the IR reciever a signal, the led lights up indicating it's receiving a signal, but the system doesn't do anything
[17:45] <skd5aner> thoughts
[17:45] <skd5aner> ?
[17:52] <mikea> What units are the cutlist generated by mythutil in? I'm working on my own utility to cut the commercials since mythtranscode isn't working in 0.28 right now
[17:52] <skd5aner> hmm, irw is working now...
[17:52] <skd5aner> I mean, mode2 that is
[17:52] <mikea> any time I run mythtranscode with --honorcutlist I get garbage for video in the output and greatly reduced volume on the audio
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.117771
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2015-11-07-#launchpad
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[01:53] <adam8157> hello, which room is to contact canonical IS team?
[01:54] <adam8157> also I just sent a mail to [email protected], could anyone take a look?
[18:48] <samson_uo> Hi. I'm trying to upload my first PPA. Unfortunately, I had a bad setting in ~/.dput.cf. I fixed that, but now dput is saying the package has already been uploaded. How do I fix this?
[18:55] <samson_uo> looks like 'dput -f' is working, if ineffiecient.
[22:44] <samson-uo> Hi, how do I debug/resolve errors with the builldd's fail to upload the resulting debs?
[22:44] <wgrant> samson-uo: What does the upload log say?
[22:45] <samson-uo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13164562/ being the email that launchpad sent me.
[22:45] <samson-uo> "Uploading build 20151107-223202-PACKAGEBUILD-8275074 failed."
[22:45] <samson-uo> and thats it
[22:46] <samson-uo> https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/65900 doesn't have anything helpful to add
[22:47] <wgrant> There's more detail in the upload log linked from https://launchpad.net/~samson-uo/+archive/ubuntu/trim-disable-kernel/+build/8275074
[22:47] <wgrant> INFO Unable to find source publication linux/4.2.0-16.19 in wily
[22:47] <wgrant> Did you delete the package or upload a new one before that build finished?
[22:47] <wgrant> Ah, no.
[22:47] <wgrant> Your version is bad.
[22:47] <samson-uo> which bit?
[22:47] <wgrant> The kernel build system is a bit special; you can't just append things to the version and hope it works.
[22:48] <wgrant> It produced binaries with version 4.2.0-16.19.
[22:48] <samson-uo> hrm
[22:48] <wgrant> Are you aware of the debian/ vs debian.master/ weirdness that the kernel packaging uses?
[22:48] <samson-uo> the kernel wiki specifically mentioned not to hack the makefile and append to LOCAL_VERSION
[22:48] <wgrant> Which page were you looking at?
[22:48] <samson-uo> saw it, but am not aware of the ramifications
[22:50] <samson-uo> is appending to LOCAL_VERSION actually the right method?
[22:50] <samson-uo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel: NOTE: do not attempt to use CONFIG_LOCALVERSION as this _will_ break the build.
[22:51] <samson-uo> oh, but now I see it says to edit debian.master/changelog and not debian/changelog, which dch changes by default.
[22:52] <wgrant> Right.
[22:53] <samson-uo> what's required to set a custom version for the kernel? is editing the top of debian.master/changelog sufficient?
[22:53] <wgrant> The things to watch out for with the linux packaging are debian.master and the ABI check.
[22:54] <wgrant> On the rare occasion that I need a custom kernel, I hack around the latter by replacing the latest changelog entry, rather than adding a new one.
[22:55] <wgrant> I don't know if there's a better method.
[22:56] <samson-uo> isn't that the mistake I made here, which caused the resulting deb to not actually have a new version number?
[22:58] <wgrant> Your mistake here was ignoring debian.master
[22:58] <wgrant> The build regenerates debian/changelog from debian.master/changelog, so it produced binaries based on the old version.
[23:00] <samson-uo> ah, so my upload failed because the changelog was no different from the released version
[23:00] <wgrant> Right. The binaries said they were for the official version, which didn't exist in your PPA.
[23:59] <samson-uo> wgrant: got distracted with other stuff, but manged to get an updated version building. I'll know in 3ish hours if that worked. Thanks! :)
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2015-11-07-#kubuntu
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[00:58] <cuchufli> Hello, I've paired my laptop with a bluetooth vizio soundbar and I'm able to send sound to the soundbar with vlc, amarok, etc. but when I play sound from a browser (firefox,google-chrome,chromium) it sends to my laptop speakers instead. Any idea on how to correct this?
[01:20] <xieyi> I am using kubuntu 15.10. I cant find network manager at systray. is this a common problem?
[01:39] <volt72> topic /hacking
[01:40] <volt72> huehuehue
[01:42] <volt72> where can i find hardcore irc porn chats
[03:29] <koko__> hi there!
[03:29] <koko__> ?
[03:34] <keithzg> Hmm, let me see if I remember this one:
[03:34] <keithzg> !ask
[03:34] <keithzg> Yup, got it in one :)
[04:28] <sergiu> Привет всем
[04:28] <Unit193> !ru | sergiu
[05:16] <fahad> hi all, I have annoyed problem, whenever I add or edit a connection in a connection editor, it crashes
[05:18] <fahad> I am using kubuntu 15.10
[08:44] <u19809> Hi all, i have serious problems since I upgrade to wily werewolf. Most serious is that plasma at startup regularly crashes and takes about 30 seconds to start
[08:45] <u19809> Also new is that the update software systray icon no longer disappears when updates have been performed
[08:45] <u19809> Also resume from sleep is 'dangerous' as there is no guarantee for it to resume to a working desktop
[09:12] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:00] <Eluus> the "open file" window doesn't show usb drive, in any program, how can I fix that?
[11:01] <Eluus> in dolphin it's visible but from programs I can't reach the usb drive
[11:01] <Eluus> on kubuntu 15.10
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:43] <Smurphy> Yo...
[12:44] <BluesKaj> yoyo :-)
[16:23] <amichair> is ktorrent working for anyone on 15.10?
[16:32] <Smurphy> yes.
[17:45] <MichaelTunnell> Rydell wasn't lead developer before stepping down right? Wasn't he something else?
[18:34] <BluesKaj> MichaelTunnell, afaik he was the lead dev. yes.
[19:16] <skierpage_> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade Kubuntu from 15.04 to 15.10. Muon Update Manager shows a nice "A new version of Kubuntu is available.", I click [Upgrade], I get the do-release-upgrade password...
[19:16] <skierpage_> minor bug: The Release Notes are for Ubuntu 15.10 'Wily Werewolf', no mention of Kubuntu
[19:18] <skierpage_> I click [Upgrade] it shows a download dialog for two packages that quickly download, and then nothing. No more progress,
[19:19] <skierpage_> ps alx -w -w shows no "upgrade" processes running
[19:21] <BluesKaj> skierpage_, open a terminal and try, sudo do-release-upgrade, but make sure all your 15.04 updates and upgrades are up to date first
[19:22] <skierpage_> I've done it three times now, I have three 7 MB /tmp/ubuntu-release-upgrader-blahblah directories.
[19:23] <skierpage_> BluesKaj: ahh, I specifically clicked [Upgrade] because I'd rather upgrade than instll 111 MB of 15.04 updates. Thanks, I'll try it. Still seems like a reporting bug somewhere
[19:38] <skierpage_> ubuntu-release-upgrader doesn't log anywhere, sad
[19:42] <Unit193> You mean, /var/log/dist-upgrade/ doesn't count?
[19:44] <skierpage_> Unit193: there was nothing new in /var/lg/dist-upgrade. It looks like the upgrade downloaded wily updater stuff, set up /tmp/ubuntu-release-upgrader-blah directory, then no more.
[19:45] <skierpage_> I'm running from the command line and it got much further. So maybe my Muon or do-release-upgrade required updates to do the upgrade from the GUI
[19:47] <skierpage_> "3 installed packages are no longer supported by Canonical. You can still get support from the community." sadly the Ubuntu upgrader doesn't say *WHAT* these packages are. Bug since 2009
[19:49] <skierpage_> ah, if you ask for details of the install in the next step it tells you "No longer supported" amongst everything else.
[19:50] <Unit193> I only ever do-release-upgrade, can't say much for the other(s).
[19:50] <skierpage_> Unit193: I've had great success with the GUI updater for years
[19:51] <skierpage_> anyway, it's off and running, thanks y'all for the help
[19:51] <Unit193> Sorry. :3
[19:51] <Unit193> And, it's not the others don't work, I'm a CLI person. :)
[19:53] <lordievader> CLI FTW \o/
[19:54] <jaysnick> greetings! i'm new here.
[19:57] <Fanfare> Hi everybody.
[19:58] <BluesKaj> skierpage_, it makes no difference whether upgrade in the terminal or the gui, all package managers are frontends for the dpkg base system
[20:21] <Naizugai> What is the difference between Kubuntu 15.04 and 15.10?
[20:21] <rom1504> updated packages
[20:21] <Naizugai> So 15.10 is just more up to date?
[20:25] <rom1504> that's what every new version of a software is yeah
[21:24] <Guest38154> I have a dual boot on this computer, and my windows partition will not boot, so I am trying to access my files on it...can I do that from kubuntu?
[22:23] <rom1504> yes
[22:53] <lolmaus> How do I make my second HDD auto-mount? I want user mount, not fstab. Kubuntu 15.10.
[22:59] <Gamayun> lolmaus: What do you mean by user mount?
[23:00] <Gamayun> I have my external HDD in fstab, it's still manageable in the device notifier etc.
[23:01] <Gamayun> If you mean the option to automount in system settings, I think it should be returning soonish.
[23:52] <andrewrey> Come here, niglets.
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.137641
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-07-#snappy
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[01:54] <george_e> \quit
[01:54] <george_e> Argh... I keep using the wrong slash...
[01:55] <george_e> Sorry.
[22:45] <vthompson> Does anybody know when the snappy-dev/tools PPA will include Xenial? Or should I be using snappy-dev/tools-proposed to pull in the tools for Xenial on my dev machine?
[23:27] <vthompson> It seems that even snappy-dev/tools-proposed doesn't have all the packages available for Xenial, actually.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.140577
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-za
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[09:52] <Kilos> morning all
[09:56] <theblazehen> hi Kilos
[09:56] <Kilos> hi theblazehen all good?
[09:56] <Kilos> nice to have you back again
[09:57] <theblazehen> Yeah, I'm good and you Kilos ?
[09:57] <Kilos> good too ty
[09:57] <theblazehen> Just got 6 exams left :)
[09:57] <Kilos> nice
[09:59] <theblazehen> Bit stressed for 2nd math exam.. :/
[10:03] <Kilos> if you know your work there is no need to stress
[10:04] <theblazehen> Yeah. Thing is, no matter how hard I try, I just can't get euclidean geometry
[10:04] <Kilos> find gremble
[10:05] <Kilos> he the maths man
[10:05] <Kilos> he might be able to explain it in a easier way
[10:05] <Kilos> oh he is here
[10:05] <theblazehen> Think I should be fine. At least this paper includes more of other stuff, so shouldn't be too much of a problem
[10:05] <Kilos> grumbles help the lad
[10:06] <theblazehen> Previous year or 2 was mostly euclidean in paper 2
[10:06] <Kilos> ai!
[10:06] <Kilos> i dont even know what that is
[10:06] <theblazehen> Basically circles and triangles and lines inside circles
[10:06] <Kilos> you int pta as well hey
[10:06] <theblazehen> I hate circles
[10:07] <theblazehen> Yeah
[10:07] <Kilos> haha
[10:07] <Kilos> so is gremble
[10:07] <theblazehen> yeah.Met him at sfd
[10:07] <Kilos> oh yes
[10:13] <gremble> Hey Kilos
[10:14] <gremble> Hey theblazehen What don't you get with Euclidean Geometry
[10:15] <theblazehen> gremble: Like, I know the theorems and stuff, and like I can do stuff individualy with one or two theorems involved.
[10:16] <gremble> Where do you struggle?
[10:16] <theblazehen> The problem comes in when they add like lots of lines, and you need to use different theorems, and like when they involve multiple circles etc
[10:16] <theblazehen> I just don't "see" how to get the answer
[10:17] <gremble> Ah alright. Yes, it gets a little difficult to discern the various problems. That is no problem on your understanding though, that is an experience problem
[10:17] <theblazehen> yeah. Thing is, I practise as much as I can - I often, even after like 30 min can't see the solution sometimes
[10:17] <gremble> I take really long to get experience intuituin, where fundamental reasoning over the problem is practically instantaneous. So different parts have different difficulties
[10:18] <gremble> theblazehen: That is me with Differential Equations :P
[10:18] <theblazehen> Yeah
[10:18] <theblazehen> ah, lol
[10:18] <gremble> I passed that by eating and sleeping DE's. People thought I was going crazy because I would not go anywhere without a set of questions to work out
[10:19] <gremble> Waiting on line? Doing problems :P
[10:22] <theblazehen> Heh, yeah
[10:23] <theblazehen> I actually got a really great way of concentrating :) Like, idk how to describe it. The kind of concentrating where you don't focus on anything else. Did my physics exam like that, finished in 1:30, most people in like 2:40
[10:23] <theblazehen> And could have studied the whole night through the day before if I wanted to, without being tired on the day :)
[10:23] <theblazehen> Think I'll do that again for the math exam
[10:41] <gremble> I wish I had the ability to concentrate like that
[10:42] <gremble> I've only been able to concentrate properly while using something like ritalin or THC
[10:42] <theblazehen> Heh, I used meds for that actually
[10:42] <theblazehen> Well, more _lack_ of meds :)
[11:16] <inetpro> good mornings
[11:17] <theblazehen> hi inetpro. Not so morning anymore :)
[11:17] <inetpro> oops
[11:19] <gremble> Hey inetpro
[11:19] <inetpro> oh hello gremble as well
[11:20] <inetpro> hot in Pretoria again today
[11:21] <theblazehen> Yeah. Should go up to 31 today
[11:22] <inetpro> sadly the minimums are too low for any rains
[11:22] <gremble> Its horrible. I have a fever as well, so I'm not very impressed
[11:22] <theblazehen> Yeah, 12% chance of precipitation
[11:25] <inetpro> is it not a matter of 12% quantity of precipitation?
[11:25] <inetpro> or the probability of 12% quantity?
[11:25] <gremble> What is a 100% quantity of percipitation?
[11:26] * inetpro get very confused with these forecasts
[11:26] <inetpro> never know what it really means
[11:26] <gremble> :P It is a probability of percipitation
[11:26] <theblazehen> I think 100% is 100% chance of rain
[11:27] <gremble> There are so many variables to take into account to predict rain, that they have to use statistical models
[11:27] <gremble> (most weather is statistical models)
[11:27] <theblazehen> gremble: Fun fact, there is a distributed computing project that models climate change
[11:28] <gremble> It's because weather is a chaos system, so it always has probabilistic outcomes, no matter how well you think you know the forces at play
[11:28] <gremble> theblazehen: And it is most of the time probably wrong :P
[11:28] <gremble> well no
[11:28] <gremble> sorry, I read that incorrectly
[11:28] <gremble> Climate change it can model
[11:28] <theblazehen> gremble: Well, it's planning long term, not short term weather
[11:28] <gremble> but not weather forcasting
[11:28] <theblazehen> yeah
[11:28] <theblazehen> Ran that for a while
[11:29] <theblazehen> www.climateprediction.net
[11:29] <inetpro> I see wikipedia talking about probability of precipitation (POP) usually expresses a combination of degree of confidence and areal coverage
[11:31] <theblazehen> Wow, I made vlc segfaullt
[11:33] <gremble> Odd.
[11:34] <gremble> I'd think that projects like that ran extensive valgrind testing to prevent shit like that
[11:34] <theblazehen> gremble: Yeah, opened a mkv from the cli, crashes. Opening it from the media menu in vlc has no problem
[11:35] <theblazehen> Should I file a bug report you think?
[11:36] <gremble> Yup
[11:38] <gremble> My friend usually has me edit is documents and often says that he can learn a lot about writing from me, but he still vehemently fights with me whenever I tell him to not use the passive voice in writing or to not just list facts, etc.
[11:39] <theblazehen> heh. Those kinds of people..
[15:30] <theblazehen> Welp, firefox crashed..
[15:30] <theblazehen> And I can't open any new windows of anything..
[15:31] <theblazehen> Oh.. Maximum number of clients reached?!
[15:31] <theblazehen> Something I can duckduckgo :)
[17:52] <inetpro> Kilos: why so quiet on this hot Saturday evening?
[17:53] <Kilos> just cruising
[17:53] <Kilos> flat on my back with the idiot box making a noise
[17:53] <inetpro> surely you must be enjoying this heat?
[17:53] <Kilos> i love it
[17:54] <Kilos> 35 tomorrow
[17:54] <inetpro> ai!
[17:55] <Kilos> i can ctach some UV's
[17:55] <Kilos> catch
[17:55] <inetpro> if only that helped to charge my batteries
[17:56] <Kilos> ai!
[17:56] <inetpro> I'm afraid my battery goes flat very quickly with such heat
[17:56] <Kilos> no loadshedding till april
[18:08] <theblazehen> Yay! Guess I can play with ZFS then :)
[18:55] <Kilos> night all . sleep tight
[19:25] <magespawn> good evening
[19:27] <theblazehen> Hi magespawn
[19:33] <gremble> Hey magespawn
[19:52] <magespawn> in and out, like a boomarang
[19:52] <gremble> It's how you roll
[19:59] <magespawn> i am cool like that
[21:04] <magespawn> bed time for me, good night all
[23:31] <Vlekkie> Whats the rules of this irc tho?
[23:31] <Vlekkie> And hey
[23:33] <gremble> Vlekkie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService These are the terms of service rules
[23:33] <gremble> informally, be polite and stay within the spirit of the channel :)
[23:33] <gremble> Hello
[23:34] <gremble> Most people are only online from like 08:00-ish to 22:00 or 23:00 though
[23:37] <Vlekkie> But take that it's off topic then?
[23:38] <gremble> it's offtopic? What is 'it's'?
[23:38] <Vlekkie> NM lol
[23:39] <gremble> Alright :)
[23:40] <Vlekkie> Gonna head to bed, cheers
[23:40] <gremble> Cheers
[23:40] <gremble> See you around
[23:41] <Vlekkie> One last thing, anyone know what the best irc client for Android is?
[23:42] <gremble> I've heard good things about irccloud. I use Andirc or something like that
[23:42] <gremble> I used to at least
[23:42] <Vlekkie> I'm using "Andchat" ATM and seems good , but wonder if there is better?
[23:42] <gremble> Oh, yes that is the one that I used
[23:43] <Vlekkie> Okay thanks cheers :)
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2015-11-07-#kubuntu-devel
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[00:51] <wxl> since https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/PPAs lacks any links to the ppa, as does sgclark's post about the trusty-backports ppa, can someone please link me?
[01:20] <mparillo> This is an example of the guidance I used to share about backports: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-532-and-frameworks-5120-backported-kubuntu-1504/
[01:21] <wxl> thx mparillo
[04:14] * wxl yawns
[04:57] <wxl> still up philipballew ?
[04:57] <wxl> uhhh
[04:57] <wxl> wrong channel
[09:12] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:34] <clivejo> has anything changed graphically in wily this past few days?
[10:36] <clivejo> my display has suddenly got bigger (bigger fonts, bigger tray icons etc)
[10:55] <clivejo> hi sick_rimmit
[10:55] <soee_> in Wily - i doubt
[10:55] <clivejo> soee_: :(
[10:56] <clivejo> this is so weird
[10:56] <soee_> domething related to DPI prbably in your case
[10:56] <clivejo> how do I change that?
[10:58] <clivejo> In Settings> Display Configuation> Scale Display it is set at 1x, but if I move that slider and save, settings crashes
[10:59] <clivejo> Im installing qtbase5-dbg & systemsettings-dbg to get a better bug report
[11:00] <clivejo> this happened in reverse during wily development
[11:00] <soee_> :/
[11:01] <clivejo> but I grew to like the smaller icons
[11:01] <soee_> tbh i had never someserious problems with DPI on my laptop
[11:01] <clivejo> and Id like them back!
[11:05] <clivejo> how do you change the DPI?
[11:07] <sick_rimmit> Hi clivejo
[11:07] <sick_rimmit> morning everyone
[11:14] <soee_> clivejo: i do not change anything, it just work fone
[11:44] <clivejo> eakkk
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:41] <sick_rimmit> Hi BluesKaj
[12:41] <BluesKaj> Hi sick_rimmit
[12:41] <sick_rimmit> Looking at some Bugs, I am Triaging..
[12:41] <BluesKaj> ok good
[12:41] <sick_rimmit> We've got some for Quanta the old HTML IDE..
[12:42] <sick_rimmit> I don't think that we package that any more do we ?
[12:42] <sick_rimmit> Has Kdevelop taken over from it
[12:43] <BluesKaj> sick_rimmit, dunno, i test, but don't package
[12:56] <sick_rimmit> Ah cool, well that's even more important
[12:57] <sick_rimmit> Do you use the TestDrive tool ?
[13:05] <BluesKaj> nope, never used it ...whenever Riddell or one of the devs has a major release/ppa etc, then a list of testers are called to test it
[13:05] <clivejo> I *beeping* hate NVidia!
[13:06] <BluesKaj> that's about as involved as I get
[13:06] <BluesKaj> nvidia works ok vs amd
[13:07] <clivejo> Ive spent an hour trying to get back into Plasma
[13:07] <clivejo> and still got stupid big icons and fonts
[13:07] <clivejo> I dunno why changed over night
[13:08] <BluesKaj> nvidia does have it's bugs but they're usually fixable ...amd 's problems are more numerous
[13:09] <clivejo> but nothing changed, there was no updates, nothing new installed. Just booted this morning to my whole desktop blown up and ugly looking
[13:10] <clivejo> all my screens are same resolution, just everything is bigger
[13:10] <BluesKaj> system settings>icons>advanced tab
[13:10] <clivejo> its not just the icons, its the fonts, windows everything
[13:11] <BluesKaj> then it's your resolution and your fonts dpi
[13:11] <clivejo> the resolutions are the same
[13:12] <clivejo> Ive still got the screen sizes I had all along
[13:19] <clivejo> this seems to be the problem - https://plus.google.com/+KDEOKK/posts/R34B46xDvNz
[13:20] <clivejo> instead of the default setting of x1, I need to go smaller, like x0.9
[13:24] <BluesKaj> I have increase the dpi due to the size of my monitor, it's a 42" Panasonic plasma TV
[13:28] <clivejo> well that scaling slider is as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike
[13:32] <BluesKaj> clivejo, there's still a lot of features that are missing or don't work well, or don't work at all
[13:47] <clivejo> sorry BluesKaj, I rebooted as you sent that message
[13:48] <clivejo> the problem is it was working fine yesterday. What changed from yesterday to today ?
[13:49] <BluesKaj> which kubuntu?
[13:50] <clivejo> 15.10
[13:52] <clivejo> its so weird, it did this in reverse a few months ago. I thought it was just an update as part of wily devel, but I liked the smaller icons and having more room on the screen
[13:54] <clivejo> wasted 4 hours on this now :(
[14:03] <BluesKaj> sorry clivejo i just use the icon sizes settings, but even they don't seem to do much
[14:05] <BluesKaj> I normally don't populate my desktop with icons. I populate the launchers in the panel by dragging them from the application launcher
[14:06] <BluesKaj> in conjunction with the icons only taskmanager
[15:11] * sick_rimmit Laughs with clivejo
[15:11] * sick_rimmit "An Ashtray on a Motorbike"
[15:11] * clivejo is not laughing
[15:11] <sick_rimmit> lol
[15:12] <clivejo> this plasma has a mind of its own
[15:12] <clivejo> like a baby Skynet
[15:16] <clivejo> sick_rimmit: if you have time would you try that slider in different positions and see if it does anything on your system?
[15:38] <clivejo> sgclark: RE: Plasma 5.4.3 are you running the automation scripts or santa's ng ones?
[16:02] <clivejo> any devs here today?
[16:16] <sick_rimmit> looks like its just you and me clivejo
[16:16] <clivejo> indeed
[16:16] <sick_rimmit> I'm just running a testdrive install of 16.04
[16:16] <sick_rimmit> What's this slider you want looking at ?
[16:16] <clivejo> I was wanting to get some of the new release KDE stuff packaged
[16:17] <clivejo> but automation scripts have gone :/
[16:17] <sick_rimmit> Ah got it
[16:18] <sick_rimmit> Just looking at that post on G+
[16:19] <clivejo> does it work for you?
[16:34] <allee> clivejo: about packagging: AFAIK we have no backup tool in kubuntu. Maybe kubuntu should try to find one for 16.04.
[16:35] <clivejo> hi TJ-
[16:36] <clivejo> would you have any idea on the status of the new automation tools?
[16:37] <TJ-> No, I've not really been following. Is that the things santa was working on?
[16:37] <clivejo> I believe so
[16:59] <sick_rimmit> allee: I understand KUP is pretty good, and part of the KDE Suite
[17:00] <allee> sick_rimmit: yes. it's nice. I use it. Missing is way to abort a running backup and some UI enhancements.
[17:01] <allee> it only backups user data. Question is if that enough. IMHO at least a good start.
[17:01] <clivejo> sick_rimmit: did the scaling slider work for you?
[17:01] * clivejo had to reboot
[17:02] <allee> Kup is not part of KDE Applications.
[17:02] <sick_rimmit> Install not finished yey clivejo
[17:02] <sick_rimmit> Let me have a look on my lappie here
[17:04] <allee> AH, missing: a) cancel running backup b) Sort of progress c) better way to verify archived data. (Doing it here before the backup >~ 26 h delay until backup starts)
[17:05] <allee> But I like that it offers a backup when the USB disk is connected.
[17:06] <sick_rimmit> hmmm
[17:06] <sick_rimmit> How do I find that KDE Module Control dialogue ?
[17:06] <sick_rimmit> Ah now I got it
[17:09] <sick_rimmit> clivejo: Yes that slider works on my machine
[17:09] <sick_rimmit> Which is a 2009 Samsun R710 running a NVidia card
[17:13] <clivejo> doesnt work for me :/
[17:19] <clivejo> Ive tried to override the DPI in the xorg.config file but it only applies it to the login screen then overirdes it
[18:03] <TJ-> clivejo: how about applying it directly using 'xrandr' ?
[20:12] <clivejo> sick_rimmit: how did xenial install go?
[20:30] <clivejo> anyone else got xenial installed?
[21:00] <sick_rimmit> clivejo: I just got the install finished, and is rebooting now...
[21:00] <sick_rimmit> It's in VBox and this laptop is quite old.. 2009
[21:01] <sick_rimmit> Plus, I've been doing loads on my laptop today.. It only has 3Gb of RAM
[21:01] <sick_rimmit> But it has 24Gb of SSD Swap ;-)
[21:12] <clivejo> nice
[21:13] <clivejo> that should speed it up
[21:18] <sick_rimmit> Alright good news..
[21:19] <sick_rimmit> It installed, and booted. I've logged in and am at the desktop.. on 16.04 Xenial..
[21:19] <sick_rimmit> I reckon that's a result
[22:00] <clivejo> indeed
[22:00] <clivejo> no major problems?
[22:37] <clivejo> my internet is soooo slow!
[22:47] <valorie> clivejo: sorry to hear of your recent difficulties
[22:47] <valorie> that really sucks
[22:47] <clivejo> which ones?
[22:47] <clivejo> Ive had a few issues recently?!?
[22:48] <valorie> display was one that I read up here
[22:48] <valorie> in the scrollback
[22:49] <clivejo> yeah that ones annoying me!
[22:53] <valorie> still no fix?
[22:53] <valorie> have you looked for bug reports?
[22:53] <valorie> David is the best for being responsive, friendly and helpful
[22:54] <valorie> d_ed: ^^^
[22:54] <valorie> plus hilarious
[22:55] <clivejo> I dont know what is wrong
[22:55] <clivejo> it just changed last night
[22:58] <clivejo> trying to get my pbuilder sorted for xenial
[22:59] <clivejo> only a few hundred MB but its soooo slow
[23:34] * clivejo yawns
[23:34] <clivejo> I feel like Im falling
[23:38] <clivejo> sick_rimmit: what are you up to?
[23:59] <valorie> oh dear, sick_rimmit has a sick connection
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.161603
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-br
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[00:17] <Eduardo> Boa noite. Sou novo no Linux, acabei de fazer o download diretamente no site.
[00:17] <Eduardo> Como faço para executar o Sistema Operacional em minha máquina?
[00:18] <Eduardo> Já que o download me aparece um arquivo .iso
[00:18] <Mangusto> Instala em um CD/Pen Drive
[00:18] <Mangusto> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[00:19] <Eduardo> Estou usando uma máquina virtual, dá no mesmo?
[00:19] <Mangusto> Não entendi
[00:21] <Eduardo> É pq vou usar o Ubuntu em uma máquina virtual no meu notebook, para não ter que instalar direto no meu HD.
[00:21] <hggdh> Eduardo: antes de começar: qual a versão de Ubuntu?
[00:22] <Eduardo> 14.10
[00:22] <Mangusto> Acho q é melhor baixar a 14.04
[00:23] <hggdh> Eduardo: jogue fora, e baixe a 14.04.3 de http://releases.ubuntu.com
[00:23] <hggdh> 14.10 já não mais é suportada.
[00:23] <Eduardo> Opa, Blz. Valeu
[00:24] <hggdh> quanto a instalar em uma VM: defina um CDROM apontando para o ISO; defina o boot via ISO; inicie a VM
[00:27] <Eduardo> Blz, valeu a ajuda aí!
[01:39] <cptjs> Iae
[01:39] <cptjs> Boa noite
[01:39] * cptjs slaps astroo- around a bit with a large fishbot
[01:41] <hggdh> /me prepares to kick cptjs out of the channel
[01:41] <astroo-> ola
[03:19] <Beto_> alguem ai esta tendo problemas na atualização do linux
[03:20] <barna> Beto_, que tipo de problema?
[03:20] <shallwe> Beto_, boa noite, qual seria o problema?
[03:21] <Beto_> ele perguntou se eu queria atualizar eu aceitei agora quando inica fica travado
[03:21] <shallwe> Beto_, pergunta: você tem placa de vídeo amd radeon?
[03:21] <Beto_> nao
[03:21] <Beto_> note sansung
[03:22] <shallwe> deve ser intel então
[03:22] <Beto_> submit kernel crash signatures...ut..down
[03:22] <barna> Beto_, vc atualizou os programas ou atualizou a distribuição?
[03:23] <Beto_> e para de carregar
[03:23] <Beto_> distribuicao
[03:23] <shallwe> Beto_, ta então lá no início você deve ter outro ubuntu pra escolher não tem? deve ter algum com versão do kernel 3.19
[03:23] <Beto_> vou reiniciar e apertar o e para entrar no menu
[03:24] <barna> +1
[03:24] <Beto_> opçoes avançadas?
[03:24] <shallwe> Beto_, isso
[03:24] <shallwe> mais ou menos por lá procura
[03:25] <shallwe> e tenta o kernel 3.19
[03:25] <shallwe> pra gente ver se não foi erro no kernel
[03:25] <Beto_> linux 3.19.0-32 generic
[03:25] <shallwe> isso mesmo
[03:25] <shallwe> roda aí pra ver
[03:25] <shallwe> se entra
[03:25] <Beto_> carregando ramdisk
[03:25] <Beto_> vamos ver
[03:26] <shallwe> Beto_, blz
[03:26] <Beto_> deu erro novamente
[03:26] <shallwe> Beto_, ta então tenta esse 3.19 o outro modo
[03:27] <shallwe> false alguma coisa
[03:27] <shallwe> modo recover eu acho
[03:27] <shallwe> lá vai entrar no modo que você poderá executar algumas tarefaz
[03:27] <shallwe> tarefas
[03:27] <Beto_> started gnome display manager ....creen to quit...d kernel crash signatures ut down
[03:28] <Beto_> vou tentar crt alt f1
[03:28] <Beto_> mas nao sei o comando para arrumar
[03:29] <shallwe> parece erro da placa de vídeo
[03:30] <Beto_> e como ver
[03:30] <Beto_> ou arrumar
[03:30] <shallwe> qual modelo do seu notebook?
[03:32] <Beto_> sansung i3 15´´
[03:32] <shallwe> sim mas a numeração modelo etc
[03:33] <Beto_> modelo codi np270e5e-kd2br
[03:34] <shallwe> blz deixa eu ver o hardware aqui
[03:36] <shallwe> a ta é i3 intel HD
[03:37] <Beto_> isso
[03:38] <shallwe> pois é, você poderia entrar no ubuntu 3.19 recover ou algo assim lá no começo
[03:39] <shallwe> ai vai abrir a tela de reparos e tentar algo como pacotes quebrados etc
[03:39] <MarconM> Noite
[03:39] <astroo-> ola
[03:39] <MarconM> Meninas
[03:39] <MarconM> e Meninos
[03:39] <MarconM> e Outros
[03:39] <MarconM> LOL
[03:40] <astroo-> sou outro eu sei
[03:40] <Beto_> vamos ver pera
[03:40] <shallwe> MarconM, boa noite
[03:40] <shallwe> pq vcs estão acordados essa hora? o.O
[03:41] <MarconM> shallwe: por que dormir é coisa de fraco
[03:41] <MarconM> \o/
[03:41] <MarconM> bora Codar manolo
[03:41] <MarconM> alguem aceita café ae ?
[03:41] <shallwe> kkkk
[03:42] <shallwe> e durmo pra não ficar velho e ter olheiras :)
[03:42] <Beto_> tentei executar modografico seguro e nao foi
[03:42] <Beto_> tentar reparar pacotes
[03:43] <MarconM> shallwe: estou terminando um projeto no eaglecad
[03:43] <MarconM> eletronica
[03:43] <MarconM> fazer um pedal a valvula ... do zero
[03:43] <MarconM> DIY
[03:43] <MarconM> \o
[03:43] <shallwe> Beto_, e quando ele trava o ubuntu você consegue fazer o ctrl + alt + F6 ou F4 etc?
[03:44] <shallwe> eaglecad isso é pra fazer circuito impresso?
[03:44] <Beto_> so tentei o f1
[03:44] <shallwe> Beto_, acho que teria que ser F4 ou F5
[03:44] <Beto_> nossa ele achou 19 pacotes com probolemas
[03:44] <shallwe> pra ver se abre o login
[03:44] <shallwe> Beto_, a bom então deixa arrumando
[03:44] <Beto_> f4 é pra que
[03:45] <shallwe> mas você teria que habilitar a rede antes ai nessa tela
[03:45] <shallwe> network
[03:45] <shallwe> F4 F5 são outras telas do ubuntu, mas sem entrar no X digamos assim
[03:46] <Beto_> acabou mandei continuar inicializando
[03:46] <shallwe> blz
[03:46] <Beto_> esta em uma tela preta parado
[03:47] <shallwe> ta agora tenta ai
[03:47] <shallwe> o crtl + alt + F5 por exemplo
[03:47] <shallwe> ve se ele vai abrir
[03:47] <Beto_> login
[03:48] <shallwe> abriu? então coloca ai teu nome e depois senha
[03:48] <Beto_> logou
[03:48] <shallwe> agora digita ai
[03:48] <shallwe> X
[03:48] <shallwe> eda enter
[03:49] <Beto_> failed
[03:49] <Beto_> fatal server error
[03:50] <shallwe> só isso que mostra de erro?
[03:51] <Beto_> ele salvou um log
[03:51] <Beto_> mas nao estou achando
[03:52] <Beto_> make sure an X server isn´t aleready running
[03:52] <shallwe> Beto_, /var/log/boot
[03:52] <shallwe> a ta é que vc ta com o X aberto já no f7
[03:52] <shallwe> F7
[03:52] <shallwe> mas ta travado lá
[03:53] <Beto_> mas esta tele preta
[03:53] <shallwe> pois é
[03:53] <Beto_> killl x ?
[03:53] <shallwe> faz ctrl + alt + backspace
[03:53] <shallwe> na tela preta
[03:53] <Beto_> fiz e nao deu7 nada
[03:54] <Beto_> dei kill x e ele pediu o id
[03:54] <Beto_> como faço pra saber
[03:56] <Beto_> ainda exite o x11 ou tem outro configurador que posso usar?
[03:56] <shallwe> pois é pra não entrar deve ser erro no vídeo, pelo que vi tem bastante gente com bug com a intel
[03:57] <shallwe> Beto_, não sei bem como fazer, mas se vc voltar amanhã com certeza alguem te ajudará
[03:57] <shallwe> tem um método que você vê o erro
[03:58] <shallwe> faz o ubuntu iniciar em modo que você possa ver tudo que está acontecendo na tela
[03:58] <shallwe> até chegar ao erro
[03:58] <Beto_> exite um debug
[03:59] <shallwe> Beto_, na realidade vc tem que reiniciar e la na hora de escolher o ubuntu no boot aperta o E
[04:00] <shallwe> e editar a linha de comando tirando o "quiet splash"
[04:00] <shallwe> e depois F10
[04:00] <Beto_> e qual opcao
[04:00] <shallwe> aí ele vai entrar no ubuntu aparecendo os escritos
[04:00] <shallwe> pode aperta o E em cima do ubuntu mesmo
[04:00] <shallwe> lá no começo
[04:01] <shallwe> e tenta tirar algo como "quiet splash"
[04:01] <shallwe> não se preocupa que as alterações feitas aí não são salvas pra sempre é só o tempo do boot mesmo
[04:03] <Beto_> pronto apaguei o quiet splash
[04:03] <shallwe> agora F10
[04:04] <Beto_> pronto
[04:05] <Beto_> foi direeto
[04:05] <Beto_> para tela preta
[04:05] <shallwe> vixi então tem que tirar algo mais
[04:06] <shallwe> não tem um "ro" tb? no início lá no texto
[04:06] <shallwe> tira mais esse tb
[04:06] <Beto_> vou tirar a linha toda
[04:07] <shallwe> não toda nao
[04:07] <shallwe> tem coisas importantes
[04:08] <shallwe> tira só estes que te falei quiet ro etc
[04:09] <Beto_> blz]
[04:09] <Beto_> ver 16.04
[04:09] <shallwe> 16.04 é beta ainda
[04:09] <shallwe> muito bug
[04:10] <Beto_> droga
[04:10] <Beto_> bom agora foi
[04:10] <Beto_> e nao nabriu a tela preta
[04:10] <shallwe> foi oq?
[04:11] <shallwe> entrou no ubuntu?
[04:11] <Beto_> direto no terminal
[04:11] <Beto_> sem passar pela tela preta
[04:11] <shallwe> agora faz login e senha
[04:11] <shallwe> se ja tem só digita "X" pra entrar
[04:12] <Beto_> socket createlistener() failed
[04:13] <Beto_> server already running
[04:13] <Beto_> (EE)
[04:13] <shallwe> vixi
[04:14] <shallwe> cara eu vou ter que dormir, mas volta de manhã, alguem terá dicas melhores
[04:14] <Beto_> blz
[04:14] <shallwe> pelo menos os passos vc já sabe pra dar as dicas pro pessoal quando perguntares
[04:14] <shallwe> boa noite
[04:14] <astroo-> ciao
[04:15] <shallwe> :)
[04:15] <barna> pois isso q só faço fresh install e mantenho meu /home numa partição separada.
[04:16] <Beto_> boa noite
[04:16] <Beto_> putz :(
[04:17] <barna> ontem eu briquei meu sistema (fui eu q fiz m...), num pensei 2x, formatei o /, instalei de novo e fui feliz.
[04:18] <Beto_> se este lixo nao fosse tao leve eu trocava
[04:18] <barna> demorou pro ubuntu colocar o /home numa partição separada por defalt! o debian 8 e opensuse 13 ja fazem isso!
[04:18] <barna> leve?
[04:23] <Beto_> o sistema e leve
[04:23] <barna> kai
[04:23] <Beto_> leve, nao é pesado[
[04:24] <Beto_> tipo roda rapido
[04:24] <barna> então, instala de novo.
[04:25] <Beto_> é mas eu vou perder tudo
[04:25] <Beto_> e tem coisa importante
[04:25] <Beto_> tem algum configurador de video
[04:25] <Beto_> ficar usando o mc é ruim
[04:26] <barna> mc?
[04:28] <barna> tens q fazer o backup do /home
[04:30] <Beto_> :(
[04:46] <Beto_> eu reinstalei ubuntum desktop
[04:47] <barna> Beto_, dica, separa o /home numa outra partição, caso tenha q re-instalar de novo sera mais facil.
[04:47] <Beto_> tipo com uns 300 giga
[04:48] <Beto_> o video do root subiu
[04:48] <Beto_> mas o do meuperfil nao
[04:48] <barna> outra coisa, o ubuntu 15.10 vai deixar de ser atualizado daki alguns meses.
[04:49] <barna> Beto_, não entendi
[04:49] <Beto_> eu digitei startx como root e subiu
[04:49] <Beto_> mas no meu perfil beto nao
[04:51] <Beto_> deve ser porque tinha o x-box em vez do gnome
[04:55] <barna> eu já teria desistido de salvar esse sistema a tempos.
[04:58] <Beto_> kkkk
[04:58] <Beto_> e perderia tudo?
[04:59] <barna> /home separado lembra?
[05:03] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[05:15] <barna> mavix
[07:23] <lostnb> Olá pessoal
[07:23] <lostnb> sou iniciante no linux.
[11:30] <mirqui> bom dia :)
[11:46] <Geese_Howard> d i a
[13:05] <shallwe> bom dia
[13:05] <shallwe> caramba e não tem jeito de eu usar o video da minha ati pr acelerar os videos kkk
[13:06] <shallwe> nem fazendo e instalando tudo que o site do ubuntu amd radeon fala funciona e pior que instala tudo certinho mas na hora de rodar falha
[13:07] <mirqui> shalwe , não drivers de vídeo que vc quer ?
[13:08] <shallwe> mirqui, na realidade esta tudo ok, mas quero usar o video pra acelerar os filmes e videos sabe? pra nao ficar tudo a cargo da cpu que é fraca
[13:08] <shallwe> ai engasga no full hd
[13:09] <shallwe> ati usa o vaapi ta ligado?
[13:09] <shallwe> libva: VA-API version 0.32.0
[13:09] <mirqui> da uma olhada e vê se te ajuda
[13:09] <mirqui> http://www.diolinux.com.br/2015/11/radeon-software-crimson-amd-lanca-novo-software-para-gpus.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Diolinux+%28diolinux%29
[13:09] <shallwe> mirqui, valeu vamos ver
[13:10] <shallwe> mirqui, a sim isso eu ja vi no tecmundo mas não saiu ainda
[13:11] <shallwe> na realidade eu instalei e fiz tudo conforme site oficial e deu certo a instalação dos drivers, mas não funciona quando eu ligo a opção pra acelerar o vídeo na inha de comando
[13:11] <shallwe> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[13:13] <shallwe> claro que a instalação desse site eu não fiz assim, fiz com o driver adicional do ubuntu que dá no mesmo
[13:13] <shallwe> só instalei os "sudo apt-get install xvba-va-driver libva-glx1 libva-egl1 vainfo"
[13:13] <shallwe> que servem pra dar o video hardware accelerator
[13:14] <mirqui> xii , e ai , nada então ?
[13:14] <shallwe> digitei vainfo deu tudo certo e tal, mas quando uso não funciona kkk, vai ver minha placa não é compatível estranho
[13:15] <mirqui> tenta baixar este programa , o grinmom
[13:15] <shallwe> é que hoje em dia qualquer processador roda full hd sem precisar do hardware de vídeo, mas como eu tenho 1ghz de processador aí é fogo
[13:15] <shallwe> mirqui, isso não foi lançado ainda
[13:15] <shallwe> é só final do mês
[13:15] <mirqui> ahaha ai é ruim
[13:15] <mirqui> mas guarda o link
[13:15] <shallwe> é uma pena pois tenho uma radeon 6290 me sugando 400mb da minha ram pra nada kkk
[13:16] <shallwe> e não tenho como tirar esses 400mb é fixo
[13:16] <shallwe> ai sobra 1600 mb de ram pro resto
[13:16] <shallwe> e detalhe não posso fazer upgrade de ram pq é soldado na placa
[13:16] <mirqui> se tú não conseguir acessar tudo , mês que vem tú tenta com este programa
[13:17] <Mangusto> Cara, eu estou usando o xrandr e quando eu aperto "delete" a configuração sai
[13:17] <shallwe> mirqui, sim vou ficar de olho mas vou mesmo valeu :)
[13:18] <mirqui> não sabia que a placa de vídeo podia fazer isto
[13:18] <mirqui> vc usa o chromium ou chrome ?
[13:41] <Guest53876> ola
[13:41] <Guest53876> estou com problemas na isntala;'ao de programas
[13:42] <Guest53876> o erro e o seguinte
[13:42] <Guest53876> Package dependencies cannot be resolved
[13:43] <Guest53876> como resolver ajuda ai
[13:43] <shallwe> Guest53876, tenta no terminal digitar
[13:43] <shallwe> sudo apt-get install -f
[13:43] <shallwe> vou ter que sair mas fica essa dica
[13:43] <Guest53876> ja tentei isso
[13:43] <Guest53876> muito obrigado mas n funciona
[13:45] <Guest53876> alguem mais ai que pode me ajudar
[13:45] <Guest53876> sudo apt-get install -f
[13:45] <Guest53876> n funcionou
[13:54] <Geese_Howard> Guest53876: qual o erro?
[13:54] <Geese_Howard> Guest53876: "n funcionou" não ajuda a te ajudar
[13:54] <Geese_Howard> Guest53876: você misturou repositórios? saiu colocando ppas não oficiais?
[13:59] <Guest53876> n sou iniciante
[13:59] <Guest53876> mas acho q n mechi com isso
[13:59] <Guest53876> meu ubuntu [e o 14.10
[14:02] <Geese_Howard> Guest53876: explicado
[14:02] <Geese_Howard> Guest53876: o 14.10 não é mais suportado e seus repositórios estão desativados
[14:03] <Geese_Howard> Guest53876: opções: recomendo downgrade para a versão 14.04.3 ou não-recomendo upgrade para a versão 15.10 [com suporte até Julho/2016]
[14:03] <Geese_Howard> Guest53876: have a nice day!
[14:03] <Guest53876> sim ja baixei a 14.04
[14:04] <Guest53876> e vou instalar par ver se resolve
[14:04] <Geese_Howard> Guest53876: boa sorte
[14:04] <Guest53876> muito obrigado
[14:04] <Guest53876> depois eu volto
[14:06] <Geese_Howard> http://techcrunch.com/2015/11/06/linux-ransomware-is-now-attacking-webmasters/
[14:55] <BETO> alguem tem um isso bom do linux
[14:56] <BETO> o meu foi pra caralho ontem
[14:56] <BETO> e eu vou montar um pendriver
[14:56] <BETO> para instalar novamente
[14:57] <BETO> iso
[14:59] <shallwe> BETO, o ubuntu 14.04
[14:59] <shallwe> grava com o persistente sabe o que é isso?
[14:59] <BETO> nao
[14:59] <shallwe> reserva um lugar no pendrive pra salvar as alterações feitas enquanto usa ele no pendrive
[14:59] <BETO> porque a 14.04 e nao a 15
[15:00] <BETO> esta aqui ne Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[15:00] <shallwe> BETO, pq a 14.04 é LTS ou seja a versão de mais suporte
[15:00] <BETO> mas eu vou instalar na minha maquina
[15:00] <BETO> meu sistema morreu
[15:00] <shallwe> BETO, isto
[15:01] <shallwe> esta mesmo, mas claro vc pode usar outras tb
[15:01] <BETO> ontem alguem me comentou para realizar uma particao para o home
[15:01] <shallwe> só lembrando que as outras versões por exemplo o 14.10 acaba o suporte quando sai a 15.10 entende?
[15:01] <shallwe> isso mesmo
[15:01] <shallwe> cria uma partição a mais, formata como ext4 e escolhe usar como /HOME
[15:02] <shallwe> e depois outra partição / pra instalar o linux
[15:03] <BETO> blz
[15:03] <shallwe> qualquer coisa só chamar
[15:03] <BETO> vc me recomenda algum link para baixar o iso
[15:03] <BETO> You can download ISOs from: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.3/ (Ubuntu Desktop and Server) http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04.3/release/ (Ubuntu Cloud Server) http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/14.04.3/ (Ubuntu Netboot) http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/releases/14.04.3/release/ (Ubuntu Core) http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/14.04.3/release/ (Edubuntu DVD) http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/14.
[15:03] <BETO> eu vi estes
[15:03] <BETO> mas sei la
[15:04] <shallwe> BETO, mas não tem problema voce pode usar o 15.10
[15:04] <shallwe> só estou falando que o 14.04 é mais estável pois está já aqui a anos
[15:05] <shallwe> o 15.10 é novo, se vc vai usar pra desktop uso tudo bem, se for pra trabalho recomendo o 14.04
[15:05] <BETO> é mas o editor de video funciona bem?
[15:05] <shallwe> qual editor?
[15:07] <leo__> Ola bom dia
[15:08] <shallwe> ola bom dia
[15:08] <leo__> quero mudar a linguagem para portugues
[15:08] <leo__> acabei de instalar
[15:08] <shallwe> leo__, ubuntu 14.04?
[15:09] <leo__> isto
[15:09] <shallwe> leo__, na configuração do sistema
[15:09] <shallwe> entra em idiomas
[15:09] <leo__> sim
[15:09] <shallwe> suporte a idiomas lá vc instala
[15:10] <leo__> ta instalado, mas não se aplica a todo sistema
[15:12] <shallwe> leo__, quando vc abre ali o suporte a idiomas automaticamente ele já pede pra instalar uns pacotes adicionais
[15:12] <shallwe> já aconteceu isso?
[15:12] <leo__> ja sim
[15:12] <shallwe> e qual programa que não fica em portugues?
[15:13] <leo__> agora vou faze update e aparece para verificar conecção
[15:13] <leo__> to conectado com vc
[15:13] <leo__> todo o sistema operacional, nomes de links e aplicativos e menus
[15:13] <shallwe> leo__, estão em inglês?
[15:14] <leo__> menos o explorer
[15:14] <leo__> sim
[15:14] <shallwe> explorer que isso?
[15:14] <leo__> kkk
[15:14] <leo__> files
[15:15] <shallwe> ta e la no suporte a idiomas o portugues do brasil está em primeiro lugar?
[15:15] <shallwe> como padrão?
[15:15] <leo__> ta sim
[15:15] <shallwe> leo__, e vc viu que ali na barra lá em cima tem ali PT ou EUA tb né?
[15:16] <leo__> ta pt
[15:16] <shallwe> lá perto do relógio etc
[15:16] <leo__> ta sim
[15:16] <leo__> PT
[15:16] <shallwe> então na hora de instalar você escolheu ingles e instalou? ou já instalou o brasileiro direto?
[15:17] <leo__> brasileiro mesmo
[15:17] <leo__> mas o que acho mais importante neste momento
[15:17] <shallwe> outra coisa, por acaso você já clicou ali no suporte a idiomas em português )brasil) e clicou no botao "aplicar a todo o sistema"?
[15:17] <leo__> e o update
[15:18] <leo__> claro
[15:18] <shallwe> e depois disse reiniciou?
[15:18] <leo__> não
[15:18] <shallwe> a sim vc precisa reiniciar
[15:18] <shallwe> pelo menos fazer login de novo
[15:18] <leo__> blz
[15:18] <leo__> vou tenta, obrigadão
[15:18] <shallwe> blz
[15:52] <MarconM> bom dia
[16:10] <Mangusto> Qual o motivo para gravar nossas conversas ? http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/03/%23ubuntu-br.html
[16:10] <Mangusto> Entendi, deixa quieto
[16:17] <MarconM> '-'
[16:32] <Beto> criando pendriver para instalar linux
[16:32] <Beto> que chatise
[16:41] <omelete> qual a dificuldade?
[17:33] <Renan> Boa tarde pessoal, gostaria de saber se tem uma forma de deixar 100% traduzido o ubuntu, pois tem muitas coisas em ingles ainda
[17:34] <Geese_Howard> Renan: não é possível 100%
[17:35] <Renan> Geese_Howard, existe uma previsão do ubuntu 14.10 ficar 100% portugues?
[17:35] <Geese_Howard> Renan: ubuntu 14.10 nem é mais suportado
[17:36] <Geese_Howard> Renan: e essa previsão depende da galera participar e ajudar a traduzir
[17:36] <Geese_Howard> Renan: ou seja, tende a zero
[17:36] <Renan> entendi, opa acabei de lêr ali em cima o melhor é o 14.04.2 ou o 15.10
[17:36] <Renan> eu acabei de começar a entrar no mundo Linux, qual você indica?
[17:37] <Mangusto> 14.04
[17:37] <Renan> beleza, obrigado Pessoal!
[17:37] <Mangusto> "recomendado para iniciantes"
[17:37] <Renan> posso só fazer uma ultima pergunta?
[17:38] <Renan> "recomendado para iniciantes"? qual a diferença?
[17:39] <Mangusto> Qual a diferença entre as versões ?
[17:39] <Renan> diferença de versões sei que é algumas funcionalidades
[17:40] <Geese_Howard> Renan: atualizações
[17:40] <Renan> mas tipo "recomendado para iniciantes"
[17:40] <Renan> por ser mais fácil de mexer?
[17:40] <Geese_Howard> Renan: quanto mais atualizado mais propenso a bugs
[17:40] <Geese_Howard> Renan: tanto faz
[17:40] <Geese_Howard> Renan: tudo igual
[17:40] <Renan> aah entendi
[17:40] <Geese_Howard> Renan: depende mais de você do que da versão
[17:40] <Renan> aa show
[17:40] <Renan> muito obrigado Geese_Howard e Mangusto.
[17:40] <Renan> agradeço muito.
[17:41] <Renan> já estou baixando a 14.04 então
[17:41] <Renan> e fazer um downgrade
[17:42] <Geese_Howard> Renan: boa sorte
[17:49] <hggdh> Renan: uma versão LTS é recomendada para iniciantes por ser uma versão mais estável, e com cincoanos de suporte. As versões intermediárias -- apesar de serem estáveis -- são em preparação para a LTS seguinte, e tem suporte por 9 meses
[17:51] <hggdh> Mangusto: o log do canal foi solicitado pelos (então) administradores do canal várioas anos atras. A maioria dos canais Ubuntu tem log.
[17:52] <hggdh> Mangusto: eu não vejo problemas nos logs, e eles, assim, vão continuar.
[17:52] <Renan> show hggdh ótima explicação
[17:53] <Renan> to indo nessa
[17:53] <Renan> vlw
[17:53] <Mangusto> Explicação ? Isso está mais para uma justificação
[17:53] <Renan> hehehe vdd
[18:20] <mirqui> boa tarde :)
[18:51] <Geese_Howard> tarrde
[19:15] <lostnb> Pessoal, estou iniciando no linux, mas tenho um titinho de conhecimento do linux, sei como funciona, é uma boa ideia iniciar no ubuntu ou partir logo pro Debian?
[19:15] <lostnb> instalei o Debian eu meu note, mas não consegui instalar o drive de vídeo por nada... nem pelo site oficial consegui drive
[19:17] <barna> lostnb, debian é lindo mas é pra quem sabe o q ta fazendo ou tem muuuuuuuuito tempo e saco pra ficar configurando.
[19:17] <barna> se tua intensão é inciar no mundo linux, indico começar pelo ubuntu e ir pro debian mais tarde.
[19:17] <lostnb> entendi, é isso que vou fazer
[19:18] <lostnb> quero aprender mesmo a usar o Debian lá pra frente, e tbm acho o CentOS um OS perfeito pra fazer servidor de jogo, web.. essas coisas
[19:18] <barna> já tentei voltar pro debian algumas vezes, mas sempre fico sem saco/tempo e acabo ficando no ubuntu mesmo.
[19:18] <lostnb> então desktop é Debian, pra fazer minhas besteira e teste é CentOS
[19:19] <barna> lostnb, a quanto tempo ta no mundo linux?
[19:19] <lostnb> eu nunca fiquei no linux, sempre algo me faz ir pro windows, até mesmo jogo impossível de ser emulado no linux... ou editores de imagem por exemplo, eu tenho só um pouco de conhecimento pq antigamente eu ficava futucando
[19:20] <barna> tendi....
[19:20] <lostnb> e tenho mania de baixar as iso das distro, sempre pra ficar testando, vendo como é... conhecimento eu tenho pouquíssimo
[19:20] <barna> então começa pelo ubuntu pra se ambientar
[19:20] <lostnb> sim
[19:20] <lostnb> ontem eu instalei o plan
[19:20] <lostnb> plank...
[19:20] <barna> Seja Bem Vindo!
[19:20] <lostnb> ai nao iniciava com o sistema
[19:20] <lostnb> tentei configurar pelo terminal
[19:20] <lostnb> vendo tutorial
[19:20] <lostnb> no fim das contas
[19:21] <barna> esse canal foi minha grande escola.
[19:21] <lostnb> usei o modo gráfico :'(
[19:21] <lostnb> eu nem sabia q tinha um chat desse, achei ontem...
[19:21] <barna> :)
[19:21] <barna> eu to logado aki a 7 anos!
[19:21] <lostnb> caramba
[19:22] <lostnb> saiu do windows totalmente?
[19:22] <barna> sim a 6 anos não entro num ruindows.
[19:22] <barna> desdo lançamento do ubuntu 9.04
[19:22] <lostnb> eita, vc é programador ou algo do tipo?
[19:23] <barna> nops, sou fotografo.
[19:23] <KurtKraut> lostnb, Conheço muita gente que não é da área de TI que só usa Linux, meu advogado por exemplo.
[19:24] <lostnb> entendo
[19:24] <lostnb> eu nao conheço ninguem pessoalmente q usa linux
[19:24] <lostnb> eu tava procurando alternativa pro adobe fireworks
[19:24] <barna> donde és lostnb ?
[19:25] <lostnb> pq eu quero sair do windows um pouco
[19:25] <lostnb> Rio de Janeiro
[19:25] <lostnb> e vc?
[19:25] <barna> BH
[19:25] <lostnb> eu me arrependo de muitas coisas q deixei de fazer
[19:26] <lostnb> conheço o linux des de novo
[19:26] <lostnb> já usei em live cd
[19:26] <lostnb> kalango, conectiva
[19:26] <lostnb> esses antiguinhos
[19:26] <barna> vc é da mesma época q eu então.
[19:26] <lostnb> me arrependo de não ter aprendido cedo a programar e ter usado linux
[19:26] <lostnb> q idade vc tem?
[19:27] <barna> 34
[19:27] <lostnb> ou 10 anos mais novo
[19:27] <barna> ou?
[19:28] <lostnb> sou*
[19:28] <lostnb> 24 anos
[19:28] <barna> c começo novo mesmo.
[19:29] <lostnb> se eu soubesse que o tempo voava... teria aprendido Debian como desktop, centos para serviço e html/css/js... essas coisas
[19:30] <barna> pois é,
[19:36] <barna> hoje tenho uma produtora audio visual, usando 95% linux, acredito q até o meio da ano q vem cheguemos a 99%.
[19:39] <lostnb> muito bom
[19:40] <barna> kra se tivesse suite adobe pra linux 100% das pessoas do audio visual q conheço usariam linux.
[19:47] <lostnb> eu não saio completamente do win por esses motivo, nao tem como eu sair assim, to com dual aqui, tenho que me adaptar ao ambiente ainda...
[19:48] <lostnb> gimp no lugar de ps, nao sei nada de gimp
[19:48] <lostnb> tenho q me acostumar
[19:48] <lostnb> eu jogo um jogo as vezes, que só da no windows... é o Ragnarok, nem com wine entra
[19:48] <lostnb> e acho feio usar wine
[19:49] <barna> eu ainda uso ps sobre wine no ubuntu, pq tem coisas q não consigo fazer no gimp
[19:49] <barna> lostnb, as vezes o playonlinux funciona
[19:49] <nuno_nunes> boa noite
[19:50] <lostnb> entao quase sempre vou usar dual
[19:50] <nuno_nunes> eu uso o windows por outros motivos :d
[19:51] <lostnb> já tentei num tempo atrás
[19:51] <lostnb> não pegou n
[19:52] <lostnb> e tipo, tem jogo privado com segurança, e sei q nao vai rodar no linux
[19:52] <lostnb> tem que ser algo bem programado pra enganar o programa, pra ele achar q ta mesmo no ambiente win
[19:53] <nuno_nunes> lol
[19:53] <nuno_nunes> eu jogo mettin2 e no linux nao da:S
[19:53] <lostnb> eu to quase instalando wine e tentando usar fireworks e photoshop kk
[19:54] <barna> lostnb, aki o pscs5 portable rola ok no wine.
[19:54] <Mangusto> lostnb, Qual é o problema em fazer um dualboot ?
[19:54] <backtin> Gente!
[19:54] <lostnb> eu uso dualboot
[19:55] <lostnb> win10 com ubuntu xfce
[19:55] <nuno_nunes> veja isto: https://appdb.winehq.org/
[19:56] <backtin> Alguem sabe me dizer se no Lubuntu tem um lançador de aplicativos igual no Kubuntu. No Kubuntu eu apertava ALT + F2 e digitava o nome do programa e ele abria. No Lubuntu eu não consegui achar esse recurso.
[19:57] <nuno_nunes> lostnb, veja isto: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=25607
[19:58] <lostnb> vou olhar
[19:58] <nuno_nunes> cs 13
[19:58] <nuno_nunes> :D
[20:01] <Geese_Howard> backtin: da uma olhada na dock do lxde
[20:01] <Geese_Howard> backtin: *documentação
[20:02] <Geese_Howard> backtin: olhando aqui parece que deveria ser o mesmo Alt+F2
[20:03] <Geese_Howard> backtin: pode ter sido mudado acidentalmente, olhe em (~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml)
[20:03] <lostnb> nuno, não entendi pra que esse site, desculpa minha falta de experiencia, mas isso é um PS modificado para rodar com wine?
[20:03] <Geese_Howard> backtin: FONTE: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Keyboard
[20:03] <backtin> poxa, tem hora que é um saco ficar usando o mouse. esse recurso do Kubuntu é muito bom. Queria ter ele no Lubuntu
[20:05] <Geese_Howard> backtin: realmente, no fluxbox é a mesma coisa
[20:05] <lostnb> back, não tem como vc fazer sua hotkey?
[20:05] <Geese_Howard> lostnb: acabei de mostrar
[20:05] <backtin> mas não da
[20:05] <Geese_Howard> ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml
[20:05] <nuno_nunes> backtin, o pc é novo
[20:06] <nuno_nunes> tente fazer alt+fn+f2
[20:06] <nuno_nunes> :D
[20:06] <Geese_Howard> ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml
[20:06] <nuno_nunes> alguns notebooks vem marados agora :D
[20:06] <nuno_nunes> Geese_Howard, diz a ele para ver aquilo que disse
[20:06] <nuno_nunes> :D
[20:06] <Geese_Howard> nuno_nunes: já falei uai
[20:06] <nuno_nunes> tente fazer as seguintes teclas
[20:06] <backtin> o que eu faco dentro desse arquivo? ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml
[20:06] <Geese_Howard> backtin: advinha
[20:07] <nuno_nunes> atl+fn+f2
[20:07] <nuno_nunes> :D
[20:07] <backtin> atl+fn+f2 não da
[20:07] <nuno_nunes> lostnb, isso é para veres a versao que corre no winelol
[20:07] <nuno_nunes> -:d
[20:07] <nuno_nunes> :D
[20:08] <lostnb> a tecla fn acho que não "lida" no software, e sim no hardware
[20:08] <lostnb> tenta usar ctrl, alt... mas fn n
[20:08] <lostnb> ou estou errado?
[20:08] <lostnb> eu to olhando o site ainda
[20:09] <Geese_Howard> lostnb: fn lida no hardware se o software suportar
[20:09] <Geese_Howard> lostnb: infelizmente não é direto
[20:09] <Geese_Howard> lostnb: tanto que tem notebook onde as teclas de volume não funcionam, ou as teclas de brilho, ou as teclas de wifi on/off, etc
[20:10] <nuno_nunes> lostnb, ha pcs novos
[20:11] <nuno_nunes> que as teclas sao configuradas como multimedia
[20:11] <nuno_nunes> :D
[20:11] <Geese_Howard> multimedia, bateria, cooler, mute, pad-off
[20:12] <Geese_Howard> entre outros
[20:12] <Geese_Howard> print screen
[20:12] <nuno_nunes> Geese_Howard, é verdade
[20:12] <nuno_nunes> o packetbell tem que usar o fn :D
[20:13] <Geese_Howard> Nando_: o que é packetbell?
[20:13] <Geese_Howard> ops
[20:13] <Geese_Howard> e saiu...
[21:22] <Castrilla> Boa tarde.
[21:22] <Castrilla> Alquem pode me ajudar
[21:22] <barna> Castrilla,
[21:23] <Castrilla> barna:
[21:23] <barna> se não soubermos o q precisa, não saberemos se podemos ajudar
[21:23] <Castrilla> Cara me da uma ajuda to p da vida
[21:24] <barna> Castrilla, digita sudo apt-get update no terminal q vai resolver!
[21:28] <Castrilla> Fiz um pendriver de boot do centos e to dando chmod 777 mas a po... fica falando que é so leitura não deixa mudar a permissão
[21:28] <Castrilla> barna: pode ajudar
[21:28] <barna> Castrilla, chmod onde?
[21:28] <Castrilla> em um diretorio que esta dentro do meu pendriver de boot
[21:28] <Geese_Howard> uati
[21:29] <Castrilla> sudo chmod 777 /media/castrilla/CentOS\ 7\ x86_64/isolinux/
[21:29] <Castrilla> chmod: alterando permissões de “/media/castrilla/CentOS 7 x86_64/isolinux/”: Sistema de arquivos somente para leitura
[21:29] <Castrilla> que saqco cara
[21:29] <Castrilla> to quase desistindo desta mer...
[21:29] <Geese_Howard> Castrilla: desista, e não aprenda
[21:29] <Geese_Howard> Castrilla: como você está efetuando a montagem do pendrive?
[21:29] <barna> Castrilla, tenta um sudo su (enter) chmod 777 /media/castrilla/CentOS\ 7\ x86_64/isolinux/ (enter)
[21:29] <Castrilla> Geese_Howard: em ca porra eu desisto
[21:29] <Geese_Howard> Castrilla: automática? como usuário comum?
[21:30] <Geese_Howard> Castrilla: monte como root
[21:30] <Geese_Howard> Castrilla: com todas as permissões de rw (read-write)
[21:30] <Geese_Howard> Castrilla: mount /dev/sdb1 /media/castrilla [por exemplo]
[21:30] <barna> isso era minha segunda opção Geese_Howard . :)
[21:30] <Geese_Howard> Castrilla: você deve conferir qual o dispositivo correto para o seu caso? sdb? sdc? sdd?
[21:30] <Castrilla> Geese_Howard: sou cabaço so sei dar root com sudo não sei entrar no sistema com root
[21:30] <Geese_Howard> Castrilla: não sei quantos dispositivos de disco você tem
[21:30] <Geese_Howard> Castrilla: sudo su -
[21:30] <Castrilla> 2
[21:30] <Castrilla> Ja esta assim
[21:30] <Castrilla> /dev/sdb1 /media/castrilla
[21:30] <hggdh> Castrilla: não importa quão estressado, cuide da tua linguagem
[21:30] <Geese_Howard> Castrilla: mas se montou como ro, você terá que desmontar e montar novamente
[21:30] <Geese_Howard> Castrilla: umount /media/castrilla e o mount novamente
[21:32] <Castrilla> Geese_Howard: como monta como root/
[21:32] <Castrilla> ?
[21:32] <hggdh> ou sudo mount -o remount,rw
[21:32] <Castrilla> hggdh: foi mau não vai se repetir prometo
[21:32] <Geese_Howard> Castrilla: escrevi acima
[21:32] <Castrilla> Geese_Howard: vou ler
[21:32] <Castrilla> sudo su chmod 777 /media/castrilla/CentOS\ 7\ x86_64/isolinux/ Nenhuma entrada de passwd para usuário 'chmod'
[21:32] <Castrilla> Afiii
[21:33] <Geese_Howard> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[21:33] <barna> Castrilla, só sudo su
[21:33] <barna> enter
[21:33] <Castrilla> a ta
[21:33] <barna> vc vai assumir o usuario root
[21:33] <Geese_Howard> Castrilla: sua pergunta foi como entrar com root
[21:33] <Geese_Howard> Castrilla: eu disse como
[21:33] <barna> Castrilla, depois disso vc não precisa colocar sudo na frente, pq vc já é o root
[21:34] <Castrilla> castrilla-OEM castrilla # chmod 777 /media/castrilla/CentOS\ 7\ x86_64/isolinux/
[21:34] <Castrilla> chmod: alterando permissões de “/media/castrilla/CentOS 7 x86_64/isolinux/”: Sistema de arquivos somente para leitura
[21:34] <Geese_Howard> Castrilla: você remontou com permissão de escrita?
[21:37] <Castrilla> umount /dev/sdc1
[21:38] <Castrilla> mount /dev/sdc1 mount: não foi possível localizar /dev/sdc1 em /etc/fstab ou /etc/mtab
[21:39] <Castrilla> ;(
[21:39] <Castrilla> Jisuis
[21:40] <Castrilla> barna to fazendo errado?
[21:40] <Castrilla> Geese_Howard: ?
[21:40] <Geese_Howard> sim
[21:40] <Geese_Howard> faltou especificar onde montar
[21:40] <Geese_Howard> mount /dev/sdc1 /media/castrilla/
[21:40] <Geese_Howard> sdc1 é o que (pendrive)
[21:40] <Castrilla> isso
[21:40] <Geese_Howard> e /media/castrila/ é onde você vai montar
[21:40] <Castrilla> isso
[21:41] <barna> Castrilla, umont é pra pasta de destinho
[21:41] <barna> Castrilla, despois do /dev/sdc1 tem q colocar a pasta de destino
[21:41] <Castrilla> mount /dev/sdc1 /media/castrilla/ mount: dispositivo de blocos /dev/sdc1 é protegido contra gravação; montando somente para leitura
[21:41] <barna> ex: mount /dev/sdc1 /pasta/de/montagem
[21:41] <Castrilla> barna: ai caramba meu dues
[21:42] <Castrilla> Geese_Howard: salve velho acho que não vai rolar ele ta contra min ;(
[21:42] <Castrilla> linux não gosta de min
[21:42] <barna> Castrilla, se vc tiver calma rola sim
[21:42] <Geese_Howard> Castrilla: seu pendrive é protegido contra gravação?
[21:42] <Geese_Howard> Castrilla: você é o segundo caso que aparece isso
[21:43] <Castrilla> Geese_Howard: cara eu pequei a iso do centos e o proprio mint se encaregou de fazer o pendriver com boot e o sistema agora se ele deu so leitura não sei como ver isso
[21:44] <Castrilla> Sem falar que tentei 5x fazer o donload e toda ora a isso vem com erro
[21:44] <barna> Castrilla, pergunta, pq vc precisa mudar a permissão dessa pasta?
[21:44] <Castrilla> Não sei se e por causa da minha rede lenta (2mega)
[21:44] <Geese_Howard> Castrilla: vocẽ tem certeza que o pendrive é /dev/sdc1 ?
[21:44] <Castrilla> barna: pera ai
[21:46] <Castrilla> Ta dando este mesmo erro aqui no centos
[21:46] <Castrilla> ISOLINUX 4.01 debian-20100714 ETCD Copyright (C) 1994-2010 H. Peter Anvin et al
[21:46] <Castrilla> No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found!
[21:46] <Castrilla> boot: _
[21:46] <Geese_Howard> Castrilla: você tem dois hds nessa sua máquina?
[21:46] <Castrilla> Ai falei com uns caras na gringa e me diseram para faser isso
[21:47] <Castrilla> just rename folder on flash drive: isolinux -> syslinux, I also needed to rename the isolinux.bin and isolinux.cfg files in the syslinux folder to syslinux.bin and syslinux.cfg and then it works.
[21:47] <Castrilla> não so um interno cheio de bad block e o pendriver
[21:47] <Geese_Howard> Castrilla: então pq usou sdc1 ?
[21:48] <Geese_Howard> Castrilla: quem é sda e quem é sdb?
[21:49] <Castrilla> Geese_Howard: quando plugo o pendriver ele ja monta no altomatico em sdc1
[21:49] <barna> Castrilla, sabes usar o pastebin? pra enviar saidas grandes aki?
[21:49] <Geese_Howard> Castrilla: por isso odeio automagicos
[21:50] <Castrilla> pastebin? cara eu vi um site na demosn web com este nome mas não sei oque é isso não
[21:51] <Castrilla> nunca usei
[21:51] <Castrilla> demons web
[21:51] <Castrilla> *
[21:52] <barna> Ubuntu Pastebin
[21:52] <barna> desculpa, paste.ubuntu.com/
[21:52] <barna> vc entra lá, coloca seu nome, cola o texto e clica em paste,
[21:53] <barna> copia o link do navegador e cola pra gente aki, eu clico no link e leio o que vc colou, tendeu?
[21:53] <barna> pra não encher o canal de textos.
[21:54] <barna> Castrilla, manda um pastebin pra gente do comando sudo fdisk -l
[21:55] <barna> e me fala o caminha que o pendrive ta montado
[21:57] <Castrilla> This field is required.?
[21:58] <Castrilla> oque é o poster: ? meu nome? e Syntax:?
[21:58] <Mangusto> Passa tudo isso
[21:59] <barna> Castrilla, poster = seu nick ou nome
[21:59] <barna> Castrilla, syntax deixa como está.
[22:00] <Castrilla> coloquei meu nick (castrilla) e deixei em text onli e não deu nada ficou em branco a parte Content:
[22:00] <Castrilla> gente desculpa minha burrice mas uso linux a mezes e ainda tenho muito a aprender
[22:00] <barna> Castrilla, na parte coment: vc vai colar o q eu te pedi.
[22:01] <Castrilla> sudo fdisk -l
[22:01] <barna> Castrilla, ok, Seja Bem Vindo ao Mundo Linux e tenha calma! ;)
[22:01] <Mangusto> No terminal
[22:01] <Mangusto> Clica ctrl+alt+t
[22:01] <Mangusto> e digita nessa tela
[22:01] <barna> isso Castrilla , da esse comando, copia o resultado e cola no coment e clica em paste!
[22:07] <barna> Castrilla, ta ai ainda?
[22:08] <Castrilla> Oi
[22:08] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[22:08] <Castrilla> ele abriu uma pagina da net quando cliquei em donwload
[22:08] <Castrilla> com a info que coloquei la
[22:09] <Castrilla> vc quer que eu te mande um txt com a info
[22:10] <Castrilla> Disco /dev/sdc: 8283 MB, 8283750400 bytes
[22:10] <Castrilla> /dev/sdc1 0 8419327 4209664 0 Vazia
[22:11] <Castrilla> /dev/sdc2 2148 14951 6402 ef EFI (FAT-12/16/32)
[22:11] <Castrilla> /dev/sdc1p1 * 0 8419327 4209664 0 Vazia
[22:11] <Castrilla> dev/sdc1p2 2148 14951 6402 ef EFI (FAT-12/16/32
[22:12] <barna> Castrilla, PASTEBIN!!!!
[22:12] <barna> é justamente pra isso q ele existe, pra não ficar enchendo aki de LIXO!!!
[22:12] <Castrilla> barna: vou tentar novamente
[22:12] <barna> Castrilla, vc tem q mandar o link né???
[22:15] <Castrilla> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13163872/plain/
[22:15] <barna> agora sim
[22:15] <Castrilla> ?
[22:15] <Castrilla> Ok
[22:16] <Castrilla> barna e ai?
[22:16] <Castrilla> astroo-: salve
[22:17] <astroo-> ola
[22:17] <barna> Castrilla, ok, visto.
[22:17] <barna> Castrilla, vc sabe onde o pendrive ta montado?
[22:17] <barna> se sim, me fala .
[22:17] <barna> o caminho
[22:18] <Castrilla> /media/castrilla (dev/sdc1)
[22:19] <barna> ok, ta montado o pendrive certo?
[22:19] <Castrilla> Sim
[22:19] <Castrilla> Certo
[22:19] <barna> Castrilla, da o comando sudo mount -o remount,rw
[22:21] <barna> Castrilla, ai tenta mudar a permissão
[22:21] <Castrilla> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13164023/plain/
[22:22] <Castrilla> Via ai barnabe
[22:22] <barna> ok
[22:22] <barna> vc ta como root ou usuario?
[22:23] <Castrilla> tentei nos dois
[22:23] <Castrilla> mesma resposta
[22:23] <hggdh> bem, eu não sei o que criou os filesystems no pendrive (que parece-me ser /dev/sdc). Mas não vejo nada mostrando um sistema instalado
[22:23] <barna> sai do root (comando exit)
[22:24] <barna> hggdh, o pendrive ta em gpt, no fdisk não mostra, teria q usar o parted, mas ta dicifil a comunicação, por isso não pedi.
[22:24] <Castrilla> C quer entrar aqui na minha maquina?
[22:24] <barna> Castrilla, da outro comando e pastebin pra gente. sudo parted -l
[22:26] <Castrilla> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13164149/plain/
[22:26] <hggdh> barna: a partição marcada como bootable esta vazia
[22:27] <Castrilla> hggdh: quan entro no pen mostra conteudo la tanto é que entro nos diretorios
[22:28] <Castrilla> baixei 5x a iso do Centos aqui en casa e todas deram pau esta ainda consequi gravar no pendriver e sera que ela não esta com pau tambem e por isso estes erros todos?
[22:28] <barna> Castrilla, como q vc colocou a iso no pendrive?
[22:29] <barna> Castrilla, pq vc num testa a iso numa maquina virtual? pra ver se ta funcionando.
[22:29] <hggdh> pode ser, não sei. Afinal, este é um canal de suporte ao Ubuntu, não ao CentOS...
[22:29] <Castrilla> barna: meu pc e muito fraco não aquenta virtualizar
[22:30] <Castrilla> hggdh: so to tentando fazer um pendriver de boot
[22:30] <barna> sim hggdh, to ajudando ele a montar com rw uma pasta no pendrive usando ubuntu, por isso continuei o suporte por aki, se não teria ido pra outro canal tipo ##ubuntu-offtopic (ou outro)
[22:30] <Castrilla> barna: eu cliquei na iso e o proprio mint fez isso
[22:31] <barna> Castrilla, seu computador suporte sistema 64bits?
[22:31] <Castrilla> sim
[22:31] <Castrilla> estou com 64
[22:31] <lorival> boa noite...
[22:31] <barna> boas
[22:32] <Castrilla> ele é um celerom de dois nucleos
[22:32] <Castrilla> lorival: boa
[22:32] <barna> Castrilla, quanto de ram?
[22:32] <lorival> gostaria de saber de um programa para ubuntu q converta o vídeo e q grave numa mídia de DVD p/ rodar em aparelho de DVD...
[22:32] <Castrilla> acho que um gb mas o hd ta ferrado so da para rodar linux
[22:32] <astroo-> ola...
[22:32] <lorival> já tentei usar o Bombono e ñ consegui
[22:32] <barna> lorival, devede
[22:32] <lorival> o k3b e o gravador de disco...
[22:33] <lorival> barna, "devede" é um programa? rs
[22:33] <barna> lorival, sim
[22:33] <barna> cria os menus e tudo o mais
[22:34] <barna> tem na central de programas
[22:34] <lorival> valeu, vou olha agora...
[22:35] <barna> Castrilla, pensando aki
[22:40] <barna> Castrilla, vamos lá de novo?
[22:42] <lorival> barna, p/ o formato correto é NTSC ou PAL? =D
[22:42] <Castrilla> barna: sim cara oque vc precissa?
[22:43] <barna> ixi num lembro lorival, fazem anos q não uso DVD, mas no google tem essa info facil.
[22:43] <barna> Castrilla, primeiro desmonte o pendrive. comando sudo umount /media/castrilla
[22:44] <Castrilla> lorival: qual o formato do video que vc tem para gravar o dvd?
[22:44] <barna> Castrilla, pedido, quando vc for copia e colar pro pastebin, copia a primeira linha, q tem seu nome e o comando dado, isso ajuda nois.
[22:44] <Geese_Howard> lorival: depende do sua tv/aparelho-dvd
[22:44] <Castrilla> barna ok
[22:45] <lorival> castrilla: o vídeo tá em mp4
[22:45] <Castrilla> barna: ja desmontei
[22:45] <barna> Castrilla, agora da o comando: sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /media/castrilla -o umask=000
[22:46] <Castrilla> lorival: sua tv é smart?
[22:47] <lorival> castrilla: ñ
[22:47] <Castrilla> barna: castrilla@castrilla-OEM ~ $ sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /media/castrilla -o umask=000
[22:47] <Castrilla> mount: o dispositivo especial /dev/sdb2 não existe
[22:47] <barna> desculpe
[22:47] <barna> Castrilla, agora da o comando: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/castrilla -o umask=000
[22:48] <lorival> é de um amigo... ele tem o costume de usar dvds pirateado kkk, desses q se compra na rua
[22:48] <Castrilla> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13164641/plain/
[22:50] <Castrilla> lorival: da apra rodar o video direto na tv dele se vc souber se é smart se não for fala para ele comprar um chorme cast eu tenho é otimou ou então envestir em uma raspberry pi eu tenho é otimo
[22:50] <Castrilla> raspberry pi com openelec eu tenho é otimo
[22:50] <barna> Castrilla, ok, fas de novo o camando sudo parted -l , no final aperta Y pra ele mostrar o resto das infos do pendrive e pastebin
[22:51] <lorival> ahh vlww
[22:51] <lorival> obrigado pela ajuda, boa noite
[22:51] <barna> boa
[22:52] <Castrilla> barna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13164734/plain/
[22:53] <barna> Castrilla, kra, me parece q seu pendrive ta com algum problema!
[22:53] <barna> eu não sei usar gpt, pode ser o pendrive, pode ser eu q não sei
[22:54] <Castrilla> barna seu eu formatar ele em ext4 e fiser denovo da certo?
[22:54] <Castrilla> ou não ten nada a ver
[22:54] <barna> acho q não funciona.
[22:54] <Castrilla> barna como vc faria um pen de boot?
[22:55] <Castrilla> oque vc usaria?
[22:55] <Castrilla> eu fui meio no altomatico saco
[22:55] <Castrilla> sacou*
[22:55] <barna> eu formataria a tabela de partição pra msdos e criaria uma pastiçãp fat32 e colocaria a iso com unetbooting
[22:56] <Castrilla> unebooting e um programa?
[22:56] <barna> sim
[22:56] <Picasso_-_> pessoal existe odin pro linux? Um programa semelhante?
[22:56] <barna> uso ele pra gerar pendrive de boot
[22:56] <barna> funciona em qualquer OS
[22:56] <Castrilla> barna: vou formatar e faser novamente
[22:56] <barna> Picasso_-_, tem um semelhante, não lembro o nome.
[22:57] <barna> Castrilla, ou entrão usaria o dd (programa) pra fazer o pendrive
[22:58] <barna> Castrilla, http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/dica/dd-Instalacao-correta-do-GNULinux-em-pendrive
[22:58] <Castrilla> barna: o unetbooting ja ta isntalado aque
[23:00] <Picasso_-_> hum...
[23:01] <Picasso_-_> lendo aqui http://www.diolinux.com.br/2014/01/jodin3-como-instalar-o-odin-no-ubuntu.html
[23:02] <barna> massa Picasso_-_ conhecia esse não
[23:02] <nuno_nunes> boa noite
[23:02] <nuno_nunes> alguem precisa de suporte
[23:02] <Picasso_-_> é o jodin.
[23:02] <nuno_nunes> lol
[23:02] <barna> boa noite nuno_nunes
[23:02] <Castrilla> barna: muito legal o unetbootin ele faz o donload e faz o pen direto
[23:03] <Castrilla> pena não ter o centos 7 nele
[23:03] <barna> Castrilla, mas vc pode colocar uma iso q vc tenha baixado (ou gerado q é o meu caso) nele tb.
[23:03] <nuno_nunes> castrilla eu instalei o centos 7 e tirei :D
[23:03] <Castrilla> nuno_nunes: pq cara?
[23:04] <barna> nuno_nunes, ajuda o Castrilla a fazer um pendrive de boot do centos 7 ai
[23:04] <astroo-> ola
[23:04] <nuno_nunes> no windows ou no linux
[23:04] <nuno_nunes> :D
[23:04] <Picasso_-_> no windows é facinho.
[23:04] <Picasso_-_> com o rufus, devia existir o rufus pra linux =/
[23:04] <Picasso_-_> 2 clicks e instala qualquer sistema no pendrive =/
[23:04] <nuno_nunes> eu nao uso o rufus
[23:04] <Picasso_-_> ele é muito pro
[23:05] <nuno_nunes> eu utilizo um sistema com o rufus ao trabalha
[23:05] <Castrilla> nuno_nunes: porque vc tirou o centos 7?
[23:05] <nuno_nunes> pk passei para opensuse :D
[23:06] <nuno_nunes> e tenho 4 linuxs neste pc
[23:06] <nuno_nunes> e o grub nao detectava o windows
[23:06] <nuno_nunes> :D
[23:06] <nuno_nunes> :p
[23:07] <Castrilla> nuno_nunes: to tentando o centos porque me diseram que para empresas ele é o mais usado como zabbix que quero estudar
[23:08] <nuno_nunes> o centos é baseado no redhat das empresas :D
[23:08] <nuno_nunes> Picasso_-_, eu uso o rosa image writer para criar as pens usb :D
[23:09] <Picasso_-_> Hum...
[23:09] <nuno_nunes> no windows
[23:09] <nuno_nunes> mas mete a pen em modo raw como não tivesse partições :D
[23:09] <Castrilla> Acabei perturbando o barna nas minhas tentativas de hoje porque baixei 5x o centos 7 e todos deram pau ai ṕarei de queimar midia e resolvi pular para o penderiver
[23:09] <Castrilla> nuno_nunes: como faz isso?
[23:10] <Castrilla> nuno como v baixa a iso?
[23:10] <nuno_nunes> no website lol
[23:11] <nuno_nunes> esta la a opção download
[23:11] <nuno_nunes> www.ubuntu.com
[23:13] <Castrilla> nuno_nunes: o centos7 vc baixou direto do site?
[23:14] <Castrilla> nuno_nunes: qual a velocidade de download que vc tem?
[23:17] <Castrilla> nuno_nunes: ?
[23:18] <Castrilla> barna: conhece mais algum gerador de pendriver
[23:19] <nuno_nunes> http://ftp.nluug.nl/os/Linux/distr/CentOS/7.1.1503/isos/x86_64/
[23:19] <nuno_nunes> :S
[23:19] <nuno_nunes> aff que net
[23:19] <nuno_nunes> Castrilla, no windows
[23:19] <nuno_nunes> eu uso este: http://wiki.rosalab.com/en/index.php/Blog:ROSA_Planet/ROSA_Image_Writer
[23:23] <barna> gerenciador de pendrive??? como assim?
[23:24] <Castrilla> nuno_nunes: vc não gostou do centos7?
[23:25] <nuno_nunes> eu já tenho distros a mais aqui lol
[23:25] <nuno_nunes> xD
[23:29] <barna> alguem usando nemo ai? to usando aki, achando otimo, mas nas propriedades de arquivos de video e audio não mostra as infos tipo codec, tamanho, bitrate etc... alguma ideia?
[23:33] <nuno_nunes> :S
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| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"BETO",
"Beto",
"Beto_",
"Castrilla",
"Eduardo",
"Geese_Howard",
"Guest53876",
"KurtKraut",
"Mangusto",
"MarconM",
"Picasso_-_",
"Renan",
"astroo-",
"backtin",
"barna",
"cptjs",
"hggdh",
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"mirqui",
"nuno_nunes",
"omelete",
"shallwe"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-br"
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-locoteams
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[00:27] <itsdavidagain> !locoteams
[00:28] <wxl> itsdavidagain: find what you're looking for?
[00:31] <itsdavidagain> not exactly, Im trying to find support for some lvm issues
[00:31] <wxl> oh looking for local support then?
[00:31] <itsdavidagain> hAVENT USED IRC IN 15 YRS LOL
[00:32] <itsdavidagain> is there local support for that?
[00:32] <wxl> perhaps
[00:32] <wxl> that's what the loco teams do
[00:32] <wxl> where you is?
[00:32] <itsdavidagain> kelowna BC, CANADA
[00:33] <wxl> looking
[00:33] <itsdavidagain> I just started to document my actions and issues yesterday, its helping immensely...thank you very much :)
[00:34] <wxl> start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam
[00:34] <itsdavidagain> thank you! :D
[00:34] <wxl> there's also these guys in vancouver http://www.meetup.com/ubuntuvancouver/
[00:36] <itsdavidagain> reading...
[00:36] <wxl> you can also try #ubuntu itsdavidagain
[00:37] <itsdavidagain> create irc chnnel..?
[00:37] <itsdavidagain> #ubuntu itsdavidagain
[00:37] <itsdavidagain> lol
[00:38] <wxl> /join #ubuntu
[00:38] <wxl> XD
[02:15] <itsdavidagain_> n /#ubuntu
[09:53] * Kilos waves
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.183408
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Kilos",
"itsdavidagain",
"itsdavidagain_",
"wxl"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/07/%23ubuntu-locoteams.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-locoteams"
}
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2015-11-07-#xubuntu-devel
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[09:02] <ochosi> Unit193: ya know, elementary also has an appcenter
[09:03] <ochosi> i know, headerbar too
[09:03] <ochosi> but that'd be something to look at at least
[09:03] <ochosi> (maybe it's also just a fork of gnome software, no clue)
[09:04] <flocculant> ochosi: does it look like it doesn't have enough options? :p
[09:05] <Unit193> flocculant: Troll.
[09:05] <flocculant> :)
[09:05] <Unit193> ochosi: It is vala.
[09:16] <flocculant> good job that didn't get the original commit message :p
[09:17] <Unit193> :D
[10:03] <Spass> hello
[10:04] <Spass> in response to yesterday's brief discussion (complaining) about GNOME 3 CSD apps in Xubuntu I made a simple Xfwm theme
[10:04] <Spass> http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/GNOM3bird+Xfwm?content=174294
[10:43] <ochosi> Spass: not bad, but that mainly takes up space ;)
[10:44] <Spass> yep, it's definitely not compact
[10:52] <ochosi> Spass: btw, if you wanna contribute to Greybird, a hidpi xfwm4 themewould be welcome
[22:09] <Unit193> Speaking of which, first Xubuntu Core 16.04 images are up.
[22:20] <flocculant> \o/
[22:23] <flocculant> thanks Unit193
[22:23] <flocculant> I guess we really need to push that again
[22:46] <ochosi> +1
[22:47] <Unit193> I'm not so sure, but hey...
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.186244
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Spass",
"Unit193",
"flocculant",
"ochosi"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/07/%23xubuntu-devel.txt",
"channel": "#xubuntu-devel"
}
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-nl
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[13:12] <Quad> Hello, i've been trying to install Ubuntu on my pc.I'm having no problems with the installation itself, but when restart my pc Ubuntu won't boot. I have a Gigabyte motheboard( GA-Z97-D3H). Please help me!
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.187422
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Quad"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/07/%23ubuntu-nl.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-nl"
}
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[15:15] <cmaloney> Morning
[15:16] <cmaloney> Paypal: Light 'em up! Enjoy great holiday offers from candles to cookware.
[15:16] <cmaloney> Uh huh
[15:47] <Scary_Guy> http://www.thepoke.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/november-fuck-off-HR-1-1024x785.jpg
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.188953
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Scary_Guy",
"cmaloney"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/07/%23ubuntu-us-mi.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-mi"
}
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-pt
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[05:03] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[22:08] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.189513
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"astroo-"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/07/%23ubuntu-pt.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-pt"
}
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2015-11-07-#ubuntu-us-tn
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[11:26] <cyberanger> Unit193: http://xkcd.com/1597/
[12:53] <Unit193> Yeeeeeep.
[20:32] <cyberanger> Anyone looked at any CDN network, CDN77 perhaps?
[20:32] <cyberanger> Looking for suggestions
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.190326
| 2015-11-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Unit193",
"cyberanger"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/07/%23ubuntu-us-tn.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-tn"
}
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-ir
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[05:53] <Azitrex> hi nixoeen after very long time ! WB
[08:14] <Guest90817> salam inja kasi hast?
[08:15] <Guest90817> soali dashtam
[08:23] <iraj> Guest90817, just ask
[08:28] <mz_> salam
[09:06] <pedram> سلام و وقت بخیر
[09:07] <pedram> فارسی بنوسیم یا انگلیسی؟
[09:09] <iraj> pedram, benevis
[09:13] <pedram> یه سوال دارم.واسه شروع یادگیری لینوکس نه توزیع خاصی بین توزیع ها فرق هست/؟
[09:13] <pedram> من اوبونتو بلد باشم مثلا تو ردهت به مشکل میخورم؟
[09:13] <pedram> یا کارکرد و خط فرمانشون یکیه؟
[09:29] <iraj> pedram, اصول همشون یکیه. کار با خط فرمانو بلد باشی اونحا هم گلیمت رو از اب بیرون می کشی
[09:30] <pedram> من واسه پایان نامم احتیاج به کالی لینوکس دارم.اما خوب پیش نیازش یادگیری لینوکسه.حالا به نظرتون با کدوم توزیع شروع کنم؟
[09:30] <iraj> pedram, دستورات نصب پکیج ها و بعضی اپلیکشن ها ممکنه فرق داشته باشه. ولی با یه سرچ کارت راه می افته
[09:31] <iraj> pedram, اوبونتو یا همون کالی رو نصب کن
[09:32] <pedram> کالی واسه شروع کار سخت نیست؟.اخه قبلا ابونتو نصب کردم.فقط در حد کار کردن عادی باهاش
[09:33] <iraj> pedram,کالی من کار نکردم. ولی با هر توزیعی راه بیافتی یادگیری بقیه هم خیلی خیلی اسونه
[09:34] <pedram> ممنون عزیز.پس برم اول کالی نصب کنم ببینم میشه کاریش کرد.چقد خوبه همه تقریبا یه محتوا دارن
[09:34] <iraj> pedram, خواهش می کنم
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.196851
| 2015-11-23T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Azitrex",
"Guest90817",
"iraj",
"mz_",
"pedram"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/23/%23ubuntu-ir.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ir"
}
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-se
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[10:38] <Hund> :D
[10:40] <Hund> Jag brukar blogga någon gång ibland om jag har något jag vill komma ihåg.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.198840
| 2015-11-23T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Hund"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/23/%23ubuntu-se.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-se"
}
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-ru
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[02:51] <buriedalive> привет
[09:22] <tagezi> утра
[09:26] <andrex> сам такой
[09:30] <uneform_alex> Добрый? :)
[09:30] <uneform_alex> Утро доброго господа
[09:30] <SergeyIT> а почему только господа? (
[09:31] <SergeyIT> всем трям
[09:31] <andrex> мадамы убежали
[09:31] <andrex> SergeyIT: бряк
[09:31] <SergeyIT> госпожи ?
[09:31] <uneform_alex> А они тут были? 0_0
[09:32] <tagezi> вы не поняли... это утро доброго господа )
[09:32] <SergeyIT> мадамы это у мусьев
[09:32] <tagezi> странно, я всегда бумал что это пятница.. а понедельник это злого )
[09:33] <SergeyIT> спасибо тагези... русский язык сложный, запятые многое значат
[09:36] <andrex> казнить тагею
[09:36] <andrex> з
[09:37] <SergeyIT> помиловать
[09:37] <andrex> небудет помиловать)
[09:37] <tagezi> так, ща договоритесь тут у меня :)
[09:37] <uneform_alex> Не надо казнить
[09:37] <uneform_alex> Надо заставить ядро пересобрать!
[09:37] * andrex испугался и убежал
[09:37] <tagezi> :D
[09:38] <SergeyIT> у него своих заморочек больше, а ядро для него - это отдых
[09:38] <uneform_alex> Отдых???
[09:38] <uneform_alex> \me очень удивлен
[09:38] <andrex> да мы расслабляемся при пересборки ведра
[09:38] <uneform_alex> Как тут эта фигня работает? :)
[09:38] <andrex> я отдыхаю когда мир перебираю))
[09:38] <andrex> /
[09:39] * uneform_alex удивлен
[09:39] <uneform_alex> О!
[09:39] <uneform_alex> Спасибо!
[09:39] <andrex> нефиг тут обратные слешы втыкать
[09:39] <andrex> вантузятник
[09:39] <SergeyIT> андрекс, зачем сказал... надо было сказать, ядро пересобрать надо
[09:39] <tagezi> да, ядро собрать - это как чашка чая, чисто расслабиться
[09:39] <andrex> мир пересобрать нада
[09:40] <uneform_alex> Вы меня пугаете
[09:40] <tagezi> да ладно..
[09:40] <tagezi> чо там страшного то?
[09:41] <andrex> ком громко жужит
[09:41] <andrex> ваще жутко)
[09:42] <andrex> где наш любимый бот настья)
[09:42] <tagezi> да ладно... количество потоков уменьши )
[09:42] <andrex> нет
[09:42] <andrex> беольше потоков еще больше
[09:42] <tagezi> :)
[09:42] <andrex> нужно распаралелить
[09:43] <andrex> чтоб баже утюг кампилял
[09:43] <tagezi> кстати, а за сколько у тебя ядро пересобирается?
[09:43] <tagezi> минут 6-7?
[09:43] <andrex> от 3 до 7 минут
[09:43] <tagezi> угадал ))
[09:43] <andrex> зависит от начинки)
[09:44] <SergeyIT> а с капустой могешь?
[09:44] <andrex> вот хромиум моет и часа 2 собираться
[09:44] <tagezi> хромиум 2 часа?
[09:44] <andrex> хотя вроде фз чего там компилять
[09:44] <andrex> угу
[09:44] <tagezi> это же что они туда пихают?
[09:45] <andrex> фз
[09:45] <andrex> linxon: привет шпионь
[09:46] <tagezi> Ло на убунте не собирается зараза.. вернее собирается, с дополнительными отключениями.. уже вторую неделю гады починить не могут (
[09:46] <andrex> укажи им путь истинный
[09:47] <andrex> ломом по рукам
[09:47] <andrex> ща сижу mxe компиляю
[09:47] <tagezi> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/reports.cgi?product=-All-&datasets=UNCONFIRMED&datasets=NEW&datasets=ASSIGNED&datasets=REOPENED&datasets=NEEDINFO&datasets=FIXED
[09:47] <tagezi> думаешь им это поможет?
[09:47] <andrex> чет стало нужно много под вынь компилять
[09:47] <tagezi> их нужно на муравеники голыми попами
[09:49] <andrex> мура веники эт хорошо
[09:50] <SergeyIT> а муравьев не жалко?
[09:52] <tagezi> SergeyIT: думаешь обожруться? )) 1000 разрабов многова-то конечно
[09:56] <UNIm95> Офигеть. Как из дому уехал так и понеслось: http://tech.onliner.by/2015/11/23/windows-34
[09:57] <tagezi> UNIm95: поставилибы линух, не было бы проблем
[09:58] <SergeyIT> так санкции снимают же
[09:59] <tagezi> какие санкции? МС будет раздавать винду халявно?
[09:59] <SergeyIT> не, будут денежку отжимать официально
[10:00] <UNIm95> tagezi: ты дал знакомому машину на покататься. Он бухим уехал. машину(Твою) в конфискат. тебе никаких компенсаций. То де самое если ты сдаешь машины в прокат
[10:00] <andrex> как с 10кой обовите беслплатно, ой забыли сказать на год)
[10:01] <tagezi> UNIm95: не понял.. у них же пиратки стояли
[10:02] <UNIm95> tagezi: зная наших то могли штрафануть и за линь
[10:09] <Artur_Prosto> Всем привет. может подскажет кто . Можно ли при помощи php-fpm (а именно его пулов) поднять несколько версий php на разных сокетах/портах ?
[10:10] <tagezi> интресно, зачем справшивать нашего разрешения? )
[10:10] <Artur_Prosto> :P
[10:11] <Artur_Prosto> спасибо за разрешение. а теперь как это сделать ? менять env в конфиге пула ?
[10:20] <andrex> tagezi: твоя подружка? :D
[10:21] * tagezi спал 3 часа сегодня.. и тупит по страшному
[10:22] * uneform_alex спал на час больше
[10:24] <andrex> Artur_Prosto: suphp http.conf .htaccess
[10:25] <andrex> хотяя suphp ненужно для fpm
[10:25] <Artur_Prosto> nginx стоит
[10:40] <Artur_Prosto> а что если в пуле заменить переменные окружения
[19:08] <Sergey_IT> веч
[19:45] <tagezi> Sergey_IT: угу
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.215007
| 2015-11-23T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Artur_Prosto",
"SergeyIT",
"Sergey_IT",
"UNIm95",
"andrex",
"buriedalive",
"tagezi",
"uneform_alex"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/23/%23ubuntu-ru.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ru"
}
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-it
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[07:33] <ciano> bongiorno signori
[07:33] <ciano> mi vedete?
[09:36] <Mmrll> Salve, non riesco ad aprire dei video da Facebook di Adobe Flash Palyer, devo inserire qualche comando nel terminale? Grazie.
[09:38] <Carlin0> Mmrll, apri il terminale che vediamo
[09:38] <Carlin0> Mmrll, sudo apt install pastebinit
[09:38] <Carlin0> Mmrll, dpkg -l | grep flash | pastebinit
[09:39] <Carlin0> Mmrll, incola qui il link prodotto dal 2° comando
[09:39] <CIANO> bongiorno ragazzi
[09:39] <CIANO> mi vedete?
[09:39] <josao> come posso scaricare ammy su linux
[09:40] <Carlin0> CIANO, no ma ti leggiamo
[09:40] <Carlin0> josao, cosa sarebbe ?
[09:40] <CIANO> carlino perfetto
[09:41] <josao> serve per collegarsi da remoto su pc
[09:41] <CIANO> ubuntu 14.4 non vede lo scanner epson 3520 ho installato un sacco di driver ma niente da fare
[09:41] <CIANO> qualche consiglio?
[09:42] <CIANO> e la stampa invece va benone
[09:42] <akis24> josao: è roba per windows ...
[09:42] <Carlin0> josao, c'è un equivalente ma non ricordo il nome
[09:43] <Mmrll> http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[09:43] <josao> lo so volevo capire se potevo scaricarlo anche su linux
[09:44] <akis24> josao: no
[09:44] <josao> ok grazie
[09:44] <akis24> di nulla
[09:44] <Carlin0> Mmrll, posta il link creato dal terminale ...
[09:45] <Mmrll> marco@marco-Evo-D310:~$ sudo apt install pastebinit
[09:45] <Mmrll> [sudo] password for marco:
[09:45] <Mmrll> Lettura elenco dei pacchetti... Fatto
[09:45] <Mmrll> Generazione albero delle dipendenze
[09:45] <Mmrll> Lettura informazioni sullo stato... Fatto
[09:45] <Mmrll> I seguenti pacchetti NUOVI saranno installati:
[09:45] <Mmrll> pastebinit
[09:45] <Carlin0> perfetto
[09:45] <akis24> bene
[09:45] <Carlin0> :P
[09:46] <CIANO> akis24 come vedi sono ancora qua
[09:46] <akis24> si si ma io lavoro .. CIANO
[09:46] <CIANO> pure io sono al lavoro akis24
[09:47] <akis24> CIANO: e poi dovevi installare il file scaricato per l oscanner
[09:47] <akis24> siamo in due allora lavoriamo
[09:47] <CIANO> dimmi dove lo trovo ...ne ho installato un sacco
[09:48] <Carlin0> CIANO, nel sito della casa madre
[09:48] <CIANO> quelli li ho gia installati ma senza sucesso
[09:49] <Carlin0> Mmrll, ...
[09:49] <CIANO> cmq mi rendo conto che non posso chiedere piu di tanto
[09:49] <Mmrll> è giusto ciò che ho inviato?
[09:49] <Carlin0> Mmrll, dpkg -l | grep flash | pastebinit
[09:49] <CIANO> buongiorno ragazzi
[09:50] <Carlin0> Mmrll, questo comando genera un link incolla il link non tutto l'output
[09:51] <Mmrll> mi dice così: You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[09:51] <Mmrll> marco@marco-Evo-D310:~$
[09:51] <Carlin0> ok ..
[09:51] <Carlin0> Mmrll, sudo apt install flashplugin-installer
[09:52] <Carlin0> Mmrll, dopo riavvia firefox
[09:53] <Mmrll> Carlin0: grazie e buon lavoro.
[09:53] <Carlin0> di nulla Mmrll
[10:57] <teosp> ciao, sapete se xubuntu 15.10 per installarlo ha bisogn odi un dvd o basta un cd ?
[11:02] <akis24> teosp: serve dvd
[11:03] <ExPBoy> non so nemmeno se esistono ancora i cd
[11:03] <ExPBoy> :)
[12:25] <davidjok> salve avrei bisogno di un informazione
[12:25] <Carlin0> !chiedi | davidjok
[12:25] <ubot-it> davidjok: per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-)
[12:27] <davidjok> devo installare ubuntu su un acer aspire e 1 570 g che ha attualmente momntato windos 8 ma nn si avvia piu per danni al sistema operativo come posso
[12:27] <davidjok> fare
[12:27] <Carlin0> davidjok, che cpu ha ? quanta ram ? e magari che scehda video ...
[12:28] <davidjok> i3 intel ram 4gb ddr3 nvidea geforce gt 740 m con 2gb dedicati
[12:28] <Carlin0> davidjok, ha un lettore dvd ?
[12:29] <davidjok> si
[12:29] <Carlin0> bene masterizzi un dvd e lo installi da li
[12:29] <Carlin0> !iso
[12:29] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviPartizioni/MasterizzareIso
[12:29] <Carlin0> !installazione
[12:29] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[12:30] <davidjok> basta masterizzare poi va da solo?
[12:30] <Carlin0> davidjok, se avviando il pc col dvd dentro non parte l'installazione devi settare il boot da cd/dvd nel bios
[12:31] <Carlin0> segui le guide che ti ho postato davidjok
[12:40] <davidjok> grazie carlin0
[12:40] <Carlin0> di nulla
[12:41] <davidjok> per quanto riguarda la compatibilità con programmi
[12:42] <davidjok> scusate le troppe domande ma sono al primo utilizzo
[12:42] <davidjok> non conosco l'ambiente
[12:50] <ExPBoy> davidjok, cosa intendi per compatibilità con programmi?
[13:13] <davidjok> allora ho scaricato ubuntu in formato zip ora unzippo prima di masterizzare epoi masterizzo direttamente il file iso?
[15:06] <aLLo> ciao a tutti
[15:07] <Carlin0> !ciao | aLLo
[15:07] <ubot-it> aLLo: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[15:07] <aLLo> ho un problema con la connessione wi-fi (ubuntu 14.04)
[15:08] <aLLo> la mia rete è fatta così: ho un router cisco che fa da modem adsl, un wi-fi extender e un pc con ubuntu che si collega al wi-fi tramite chiavetta
[15:08] <aLLo> uso una tl-wn725n
[15:09] <aLLo> della tp-link
[15:09] <aLLo> ubuntu vede la rete wi-fi, si connette, ma una volta connesso non raggiunge né indirizzi esterni né locali
[15:10] <aLLo> il simbolo del wi-fi in alto a dx è sempre grigio
[15:15] <Carlin0> aLLo, ma sei lontano dal punto wifi ?
[15:27] <Carlin0> aLLo, ma sei lontano dal punto wifi ?
[15:42] <aLLo> no, ho anche altri dispositivi vicino al pc linux, e quelli prendono bene il wifi
[15:43] <Carlin0> aLLo, non saprei aiutarti non sono pratico di wifi ma vedo che siete in parecchi con la 14.04 ad avere problemi
[15:44] <aLLo> proverò ad aggiornare e vedere se con la 15 va meglio
[15:45] <Carlin0> non saprei magari prova a ripassare e trovi qualcuno + esperto di me sull'argomento
[15:45] <aLLo> ok, grazie comunque
[19:08] <tecnoweb> salve a tutti ho un problema con l'installazione di ubuntu sul mio pc nn riesco a far partire l'installazione dal boot
[19:09] <tecnoweb> come posso fare? ho un acer aspire e1-570g
[19:10] <krabador> tecnoweb, come hai fatto il supporto di installazione?
[19:13] <tecnoweb> scaricato ubuntu unzip file in cartella poi nero burning rom masterizzato in iso
[19:13] <tecnoweb> nn riesco a capire
[19:13] <krabador> sbagliato
[19:14] <krabador> tecnoweb, devi masterizzare direttamente il file iso
[19:14] <krabador> !iso | tecnoweb
[19:14] <ubot-it> tecnoweb: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviPartizioni/MasterizzareIso
[19:14] <tecnoweb> quindi tutto il file zip
[19:15] <krabador> non è un file zip
[19:15] <krabador> è un file iso
[19:18] <tecnoweb> forse hai ragione ho peccato di superbia vedendo l'icona di ubuntu identica ad un file zip e sono andato ad estrarre il tutto
[19:18] <krabador> tecnoweb, togli pure forse
[19:18] <krabador> è un file iso, e si masterizza con apposita procedura
[19:18] <tecnoweb> ora riprovo senza estrarre e vedo che succede senti un ultima domanda il boot come lo setto uefi o legacy
[19:18] <krabador> va bene anche nero burning rom, se lo apri,e selezioni "apri file iso2
[19:18] <krabador> "
[19:19] <krabador> tecnoweb, hai scaricato 15.10 ?
[19:20] <tecnoweb> si
[19:24] <tecnoweb> dunque?
[19:25] <sacarde> ciao
[19:26] <tecnoweb> ciao
[19:27] <sacarde> il sito e' stato giu?
[19:27] <tecnoweb> infatti non funziona
[19:28] <sacarde> ah
[19:29] <sacarde> cosa mi consigliate per ripristinare grub in una installazione uefi?
[19:29] <krabador> sacarde, boot repair
[19:29] <krabador> sacarde, il sito sta attraversando manutenzione
[19:30] <sacarde> eh si, vedo
[19:30] <krabador> tecnoweb, con 15.10 , puoi andare direttamente con uefi
[19:30] <krabador> tecnoweb, quando installi, assicurati che grub finisca in partizione uefi
[19:44] <sacarde> krabador, ma anche per uefi consigli boot-repair?
[19:44] <krabador> sacarde, hai fatto una domanda precisa, se non ricordo male
[19:45] <sacarde> si
[19:45] <krabador> hai avuto una risposta precisa.
[19:45] <sacarde> si
[19:47] <krabador> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Converting_Ubuntu_into_UEFI_or_Legacy_mode
[19:48] <krabador> il wiki italiano al momento ha qualche problema
[20:00] <ilovelinux> uh? che è cambiato?
[22:18] <krabador> Deindre strikes back
[22:18] <Deindre> ahahahha
[23:13] <davidjok> salve a tutti . sono nuovo di ubuntu volevo sapere come faccio a creare collegamenti sulla scrivania dei miei programmi
[23:14] <krabador> davidjok, che versione di ubuntu hai installato?
[23:16] <davidjok> 15.10
[23:16] <krabador> davidjok, ubuntu ha la barra laterale, adibita a questo
[23:17] <krabador> davidjok, e la dashboard, a cui accedi cliccando alla prima icona in alto a sinistra
[23:17] <davidjok> quindi per assurdo nn posso avere l icona di firefox sulla scrivania?
[23:18] <krabador> salluc69,
[23:18] <krabador> davidjok, ce l'hai di lato a sinistra, che differenza fa?
[23:18] <krabador> danielik, la cerchi nella dashboard , e la trascini sulla barra
[23:18] <davidjok> per vedere lelenco dei prg installati di gia come faccio?
davidjok, e la dashboard, a cui accedi cliccando alla prima icona in alto a sinistra
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-es
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[10:45] <Tiffon> nas
[17:42] <Octubre2> Ubuntu tiene un fallo
[17:42] <Octubre2> no se como se olvidan de implementarlo porque llevan toda la vida igual
[17:43] <Octubre2> bueno no es ubuntu, es gnome
[19:02] <Octubre2> mimecar, como puedo saber que version de gnome esta usando mi ubuntu ?
[19:02] <Octubre2> porque no veo opcion tipo gnome --version ni gnome-shell --version en mi terminal
[19:04] <mimecar> tienes que tener algún "Acerca de" que lo diga
[19:04] <mimecar> Ubuntu no usa gnome-shell
[20:06] <Atiros> algun programa que recomienden para ubuntu 15.10
[20:06] <mimecar> para...?
[20:08] <Atiros> de los que no pueden faltar en ubuntu
[20:09] <mimecar> Ubuntu no usa los programas, los usas tú
[20:09] <mimecar> ¿qué necesitas?
[20:12] <Atiros> para mejor compatibilidad con los programas de windows que wine recomiendan
[20:13] <mimecar> ¿no tienes programas alternativos en Ubuntu?
[20:14] <mimecar> la última versión de Wine suele dar menos problemas
[20:14] <mimecar> siempre que no tengas alternativas claro
[20:15] <Atiros> Queria instalar el proteus en ubuntu pero me a resultado algo dificil
[20:16] <mimecar> en el primer enlace tienes las instrucciones => https://www.google.es/search?q=proteus+ubuntu
[20:17] <Atiros> muchas gracias
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2015-11-23-#juju
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[08:45] <jamespage> gnuoy, https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/charms/trusty/nova-compute/lp1509267-stable/+merge/278286
[08:46] <gnuoy> +1
[08:59] <jamespage> gnuoy, https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+source/nova-compute/+bug/1518771
[08:59] <jamespage> ?
[08:59] <mup> Bug #1518771: nova-compute hugepages breaks the boot process <upstart :New> <nova-compute (Juju Charms Collection):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518771>
[15:13] <Icey> exporting a bundle through juju-gui doesn't export added storage?
[16:15] <marcoceppi> Icey: storage isn't in the bundle format AFAIK
[16:15] <marcoceppi> rick_h_: ^?
[16:19] <tvansteenburgh> marcoceppi: suggestions on this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+bug/1513612
[16:19] <mup> Bug #1513612: HyperV lis-test Charm <Juju Charms Collection:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513612>
[16:20] <marcoceppi> tvansteenburgh: we can't really test it with the automated testing because we don't have a windows machine in our CI and we don't have simplestreams for Windows deployments
[16:20] <marcoceppi> that charm really only works right now on a MAAS enabled substrate with a Windows image baked in
[16:20] <mwenning> marcoceppi, how should I proceed then?
[16:20] <marcoceppi> tvansteenburgh: we need to probably blacklist LXC/LXD with charms in the windows series
[16:22] <marcoceppi> mwenning: I'm not sure. We should review the code as normal, if possible. But testing is the best way for us to be sure it works. I'll see if we can get a windows enabled substrate for the test runner
[16:23] <mwenning> marcoceppi, the OIL team has a windows image that will deploy (from blake_r). That's what I've bee using to develop
[16:23] <marcoceppi> mwenning: sure, we need to get that into our charm-testing infrastructure so we can validate windows charms
[16:23] <marcoceppi> we've not had many go through our pipeline :)
[16:24] <marcoceppi> mwenning: for the time being I have a maas and might be able to load the windows image on there to test this one off
[16:24] * marcoceppi looks into how we can get resources to test this
[16:24] <mwenning> marcoceppi, tvansteenburgh , also had a question (in the bug) - this charm requires a download of ~6M zip file containing the lis-test code.
[16:25] <mwenning> should I re-do this as a "fat charm" & include it?
[16:25] <mwenning> seems like it would be easier to control
[16:25] <marcoceppi> mwenning: is the zip accessible on the internet?
[16:26] <mwenning> marcoceppi, yes it is on git hub, but I'm using one that I've downloaded & modified
[16:28] <mwenning> marcoceppi, sorry the _zip_ is not accessible, source is.
[16:28] <marcoceppi> mwenning: you could fat-pack it, if it's not easily accessible from the public internet
[16:29] <mwenning> marcoceppi, cool I'd prefer that, easier to control new versions. Also it's going in OIL and they don't like outside downloads
[16:30] <mwenning> marcoceppi, tvansteenburgh , will amulet work in windows? that's probably the next thing
[16:31] <marcoceppi> mwenning: amulet is python, Python can be installed in Windows, it should work. However, I'm not sure how juju-run/juju ssh work in a Windows environment
[16:32] <marcoceppi> there's a lot of unknowns here, you're trail blazing a bit here ;)
[16:32] <mwenning> marcoceppi, :-)
[16:37] <rick_h_> marcoceppi: Icey I think there's work underway to add it. axw was doing something and frankban was reviewing it if I recall
[16:37] <rick_h_> marcoceppi: Icey but once that lands a gui release will have to be cut to support exporting it.
[16:37] <rick_h_> urulama: hatch fyi ^
[16:38] <frankban> rick_h_: yes storage is being added to bundlechanges and to the bundle format
[16:38] <rick_h_> frankban: and will export support that or do we need a card for that to get updated as well?
[16:38] <rick_h_> frankban: or the bundlechanges support adds the export as well?
[16:39] <frankban> rick_h_: export from the GUI? Jeff is working on adding storage to the GUI
[16:39] <rick_h_> frankban: ok
[16:57] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: I've got some justifications for the update-status hook
[16:58] <cory_fu> FYI, in case I wasn't clear before, I'm for including the update-status hook, I just don't want anyone to be surprised when their handlers run every 5 minutes
[16:59] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: they should have smarter handlers ;)
[16:59] <marcoceppi> this is what I'm trying to do, as an fyi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13477912/
[16:59] <marcoceppi> since there's so many different layers at play, each method just calls update_status() at the end of it's run atm
[16:59] <cory_fu> Agreed. And having them re-run every 5 minutes has actually been really helpful for me when developing and having my charms get into a blocked state that I needed to resolve just by re-running a hook w/o changing any config
[17:00] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: should I mail the list about including this?
[17:00] <cory_fu> Probably worth doing, yes
[17:01] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: cool, I'll drop a line today
[17:03] <cory_fu> marcoceppi: I'd also like you to compare how we're handling the status logic in https://github.com/johnsca/layer-apache-spark/blob/master/reactive/spark.py and https://github.com/ktsakalozos/layered-hive-charm/blob/master/reactive/hive.py to your approach
[17:03] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: ohh, I'd love to, I've been trying to find a simple way to do this
[17:04] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: ah, I see, leveraging states more
[17:05] <marcoceppi> I like, I need to set/react to more states in general. I'm a little sparse in my layers to date
[17:06] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: I'll refactor my django layer a bit to use this approach
[17:06] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: I have a use case for actions in reactive too
[17:06] <marcoceppi> well, s/use case/need/
[17:09] <cory_fu> Agreed, we need to support actions
[17:15] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: is there a way to do something like `psql.changed()` to see if relation data has changed?
[17:20] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: nvm, I can just use states
[17:26] <jose> arosales, marcoceppi: hey! I wanted to confirm if you guys wanted to be mentors for Google Code-In
[17:26] <marcoceppi> jose: yes
[17:27] <cory_fu> marcoceppi: Were are you talking about setting the "changed" state from? The charm layer?
[17:27] <jose> marcoceppi: ok, you're getting a PM to confirm something real quick and we'll get this rolling
[17:27] <arosales> jose: yes +1 :-)
[17:28] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: I was referring to postgresql recieving changed data, but I just realized I don't care that much
[17:28] <jose> woot woot! same for you!
[17:28] <marcoceppi> since the tinerface takes care of that
[17:29] <cory_fu> marcoceppi: Right. The interface should handle changes and turn them into appropriate states. But you also shouldn't expect a "db.changed" state or similar from an interface layer (nor try to create one) because it almost certainly won't work the way you expect (I know from experience)
[17:30] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: yeah, I found a better way around what I was trying to work though
[17:30] <cory_fu> marcoceppi: If you do need to track changes in data, though, you can use https://pythonhosted.org/charms.reactive/charms.reactive.helpers.html#charms.reactive.helpers.data_changed
[18:08] <marcoceppi> jose: can you send along good examples of tasks?
[18:11] <jose> marcoceppi: Code In Sample Tasks (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1povliHCv-_5AuTdRtrs-AJTZBbyNhufZYs_bykuALHA/edit?usp=docslist_api)
[18:14] <marcoceppi> jose arosales I really don't think we want to encourage a charm review as a task? Not sure the scope of this though
[18:23] <jose> marcoceppi: those were just samples of things we do written in task format
[18:23] <marcoceppi> jose: ack, cool
[18:23] <marcoceppi> jose arosales we should meet up to discuss, to avoid building duplicate tasks?
[18:30] <jrwren> can someone help me understand some failing test output? http://juju-ci.vapour.ws:8080/job/charm-bundle-test-lxc/1485/console I see a make -s lint and make -s test being run, but the charm doesn't have a Makefile. what is happening?
[18:32] <marcoceppi> jrwren: yes it does http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~evarlast/charms/trusty/apache2/add-logs-interface/view/head:/Makefile
[18:32] <jrwren> ok, something is very broken on my end. thanks.
[18:33] <jrwren> i'm going back to bed.
[19:03] <arosales> marcoceppi +1 on meeting up, perhaps post us holiday though
[19:05] <marcoceppi> arosales: well we have 14 days before they're due ;)
[19:06] <arosales> marcoceppi, ah well then :-)
[19:06] <arosales> I guess sooner rather than later
[19:06] <arosales> marcoceppi: my first thought is failing charm test triage or picking a few charms we know need some tlc, or is that to deep of a task?
[19:07] * marcoceppi dunno
[21:12] <beisner> hi jrwren, tvansteenburgh - looks like we are all hitting the same mongodb test race. in my observation, when everything is just right, and under low-load, the tests will generally pass. but the sleep time is really just a bug in itself, and the tests will need to be more clever about knowing when to start poking. re: bug 1518468
[21:12] <mup> Bug #1518468: mongodb functional tests have race condition due to fixed sleep time <amulet> <uosci> <mongodb (Juju Charms Collection):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518468>
[21:14] <jrwren> beisner: thanks for the replies and this msg. I'll update the test to poll.
[21:15] <beisner> jrwren, awesome. thanks!
[21:16] <tvansteenburgh> jrwren, i'm curious what you willing be checking for in the polling loop
[21:20] <tvansteenburgh> i ask because amulet's sentry.wait() already does this in a non-charm-specific way, waiting for every unit to quiesce (no running hooks) for at least 30 seconds
[21:21] <tvansteenburgh> i assume what you have in mind is specific to the mongodb charm?
[21:22] <jrwren> tvansteenburgh: i'll poll every 10s until some max timeout.
[21:22] <jrwren> tvansteenburgh: I'm unsure, but I think the issue is not juju and something sentry.wait() would trigger, but mongodb and its replset choosing a primary
[21:23] <tvansteenburgh> fwiw, i think the most correct way forward is to do what beisner suggested and have the charm implement extended status to advertise when it is ready, then use amulet's sentry.wait_for_messages() to block until that status is set. but i realize that may not be a feasible change to make right now
[21:23] <tvansteenburgh> jrwren: ah, i see
[22:07] <adam_g> spinning my wheels trying to bootstrap a manually provisioned container: http://paste.openstack.org/show/479791/ any ideas?
[23:35] <marcoceppi> thumper: lp:~ubucon-site-developers/ubucon-site/ubucon-layer and https://github.com/marcoceppi/layer-django
[23:36] <marcoceppi> thumper: zero to no documentation yet, the first branch is what a consumer of the django layer looks like and the second is the actual guts of it
[23:36] * thumper nods
[23:42] <marcoceppi> thumper: I've charmed ubucon site and and working on taiga which is also django. Trying to make the layer as useful as possible
[23:43] <thumper> marcoceppi: I'd have to compare with what I currently deploy
[23:43] <thumper> I have a python-django charm that starts celery workers when related to rabbitmq
[23:43] <marcoceppi> thumper: yeah, I know you're doing a pretty expansive deployment
[23:43] <thumper> I haven't proposed it yet...
[23:44] <thumper> but my focus hasn't been charm development, but site development
[23:44] <thumper> I'd love it to be more useful...
[23:44] <marcoceppi> thumper: yeah, totally understand
[23:44] <blr> marcoceppi: is there some documentation somewhere on what layers provide?
[23:44] <marcoceppi> blr: not sure I understand what you mean
[23:45] <blr> I'm almost entirely ignorant of the changes in the reactive framework... our charms just use charmhelpers
[23:46] <marcoceppi> blr: so each layer provides it's own set of events it creates/reacts to
[23:46] <marcoceppi> they're typically documented in the readme
[23:50] <blr> marcoceppi: does this compliment the services framework, or is it orthogonal?
[23:51] <marcoceppi> blr: it replaces, services framework is still valid but reactive is the evolution of it
[23:51] <blr> right okay... so we should probably look at refactoring our charms.
[23:53] <marcoceppi> blr: well, I don't know if refactor is the right word
[23:54] <marcoceppi> blr: I think new charms going forward should be in reactive
[23:54] <marcoceppi> but services framework is still valid
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2015-11-23-#xubuntu
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[00:00] <Guest57798> hello again
[00:01] <knome> hello
[12:04] <ubikite> hi, i want to disable screensaver completely. i'm using 14.04.03. tried modifying ~/.xscreensaver and /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc. didn't help. any suggestions?
[12:05] <cfhowlett> ubikite, sudo apt-get purge xscreensaver
[12:07] <ubikite> cfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13475431/
[12:07] <cfhowlett> ubikite, cool!
[12:09] <ubikite> but screensaver works, not cool ;)
[12:09] <cfhowlett> ubikite, eh? WHAT screensaver is working???
[12:19] <ubikite> cfhowlett: it's a vanilla installation. i've not made any configurations on installation. i'm not sure which screensaver is running. all that i can see is screen goes blank in login screen and X session. i think it's about ACPI options when booting kernel but i don't want to disable them.
[12:20] <cfhowlett> ubikite, no xscreensaver, no screensaver. as of 14.04, lightlocker will blank the screen, however.
[12:35] <ubikite> ok, rephrasing the question. it's putting display to sleep. what configuration do i have to make to disable once and for all.
[12:37] <cfhowlett> I have no idea. sorry.
[12:37] <cfhowlett> Power settings? display settings?
[12:58] <ubikite> ok, another question. where's xorg.conf file in xubuntu?
[12:59] <knome> ubikite, by default, there is none
[13:46] <fanfan> hello !!
[13:46] <fanfan> fanfan, male, 32, france
[13:47] <fanfan> i'd like to know how to connect automatically, please ?
[13:47] <fanfan> on xubuntu obviously :)
[13:50] <fanfan> Heeeeelp !!
[13:50] <fanfan> Need a meeeeeediiiic !
[13:50] <fanfan> :)
[13:51] <Walliski> how to connect to what?
[14:06] <cfhowlett> fanfan this is NOT a dating site. play somewhere else
[19:11] <Dago_> hi all can anyone help me?
[19:11] <knome> ask the question and find out
[19:12] <Dago_> i had an old fujistu siemens amilo pro v2030
[19:12] <Dago_> his monitor is broken
[19:13] <Dago_> so i use external vga monitor
[19:13] <Dago_> today i decided to install on it xubuntu
[19:13] <Dago_> but when i go live try of it
[19:13] <Dago_> vga isnt supported
[19:13] <Dago_> so i can see only a little bit corner
[19:14] <krytarik> Dago_: Please try and keep as much of your info as possible on one line - easier to follow for everyone.
[19:14] <Dago_> sry
[19:15] <Dago_> i had an old fujistu siemens amilo pro v2030 his monitor is broken so i use external vga monitor today i decided to install on it xubuntu but when i go live try of it vga not work so i can see only a little bit corner
[19:16] <Dago_> and is impossible for me follow install instruction cause i cant see where i click... so i ask there is a method to activate vga external monitor?
[19:26] <Dago_> ok ty anyway
[19:42] <redkriegtober> hello :)
[19:43] <redkriegtober> using a xubuntu 15.10 live usb I boot into my lenovo b575. I can't connect to wifi as it tells me there is a hardware block. None of the function keys re enable it. I used rfkill list and it tells me the wifi is hardware blocked not software blocked.
[19:46] <redkriegtober> hello
[19:49] <redkriegtober> hi
[19:52] <redkriegtober> hello sliding horn
[19:52] <krytarik> redkriegtober: Please don't randomly ping people.
[19:52] <redkriegtober> sorry, just wondering where to go for help with live usb
[19:52] <redkriegtober> using a xubuntu 15.10 live usb I boot into my lenovo b575. I can't connect to wifi as it tells me there is a hardware block. None of the function keys re enable it. I used rfkill list and it tells me the wifi is hardware blocked not software blocked.
[19:53] <krytarik> Yeah, just read that.
[19:54] <krytarik> redkriegtober: Could ask in #ubuntu on that too, btw.
[19:55] <redkriegtober> I will, thanks
[19:56] <SlidingHorn> !wifi | redkriegtober - have you taken a look here?
[20:01] <redkriegtober> thanks! I'll have a look
[20:24] <xubuntu38d> im trying to install the newest version and im having some video issues. I am using a live usb drive and i took a screenshot and it is worse but similar to how i see it. http://i.imgur.com/3PDVOQr.png
[20:27] <xubuntu38d> http://i.imgur.com/0oS3smd.png woah that is weird
[20:28] <function9x> which xubuntu are you installing?
[20:30] <xubuntu38d> 15.10
[20:30] <function9x> what's the specs of your system, cpu, gpu
[20:31] <xubuntu38d> a hp compaq small form factor from 2009 3ghz dual core 4gb ram stock gpu
[20:33] <flocculant> xubuntu38d intel graphics?
[20:33] <xubuntu38d> a HP Compaq dc7900
[20:33] <xubuntu38d> yes
[20:33] <flocculant> bug 1507255
[20:34] <flocculant> a workround in post #5 that might help you
[20:36] <xubuntu38d> can i do that from a live usb?
[20:36] <flocculant> is it installed already?
[20:37] <xubuntu38d> no
[20:37] <flocculant> I'd imagine it's going to be hard to do - but not undoable
[20:38] <flocculant> personally if I could install, then I would boot to recovery mode and then do that file there
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-uk
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[08:06] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:14] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:17] <bittin_> top of the morning to you ukains
[08:17] <bittin_> morning
[08:22] <MooDoo> :)
[09:56] <andylockran> morning
[10:16] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Fibonacci Day! 😃
[10:22] <TwistedLucidity> JamesTait: 23/11/2015....eh?
[10:22] <MooDoo> morning
[10:25] <JamesTait> Gah, the T key on my keyboard is playing up. :(
[10:27] <JamesTait> TwistedLucidity, I'm assming it has to do with US date notation (11/23) and that kind of following the Fibonacci sequence, even though 11 doesn't actually appear in the sequence.
[10:27] <TwistedLucidity> Bloody imperialists!
[10:28] <JamesTait> But 11+12=23. It's a stretch as far as I'm concerned.
[10:36] <davmor2> JamesTait: Got you covered lyrically https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPFDlUKFbWU
[14:43] <diddledan> mooning
[14:44] <davmor2> diddledan: public channel dude put it away :D Morning
[14:44] <diddledan> :-p
[17:18] <daftykins> just had some hassle ordering something for someone, turns out verified by visa considers your home IP, geoIP, browser and OS on placing orders now
[17:19] <zmoylan-pi> next year... colonoscopyIP...
[17:19] <daftykins> indeed!
[17:21] <zmoylan-pi> OR they just think that daftykins is a particularly shify individual...
[17:21] <zmoylan-pi> >_>
[17:21] <zmoylan-pi> <_<
[17:21] <daftykins> pretty standard :)
[17:23] * zmoylan-pi copies 14 episodes of firefly to view later...
[17:23] <daftykins> never did get the appeal of that one
[17:24] <zmoylan-pi> i had to be force fed the first episode but it is a really beautiful sci fi show that was well done
[17:24] <zmoylan-pi> still b5 > ds9 > firefly mind
[17:40] <daftykins> diddledan: Surface Pro 4 on order :O
[17:40] <diddledan> :-o
[17:40] <diddledan> well done!
[17:41] <diddledan> which spec did you go for?
[17:41] <daftykins> 'tis the dream job, paid to play with new toys
[17:41] <daftykins> as it's not for me
[17:41] <diddledan> aww
[17:41] <daftykins> expansys.com was cheap, £860 delivered for the i5 8GB RAM 256GB SSD model :)
[17:45] <daftykins> oh my word, just had a gas letter come in... they're hiking the standing charge from 34p per day to £1.34 per day O_O
[17:46] <daftykins> only concession is that unit price drops from 12.74 to 8.9 - bleh
[18:06] <awilkins> daftykins, Clearly you're using gas too efficiently, citizen
[18:07] <awilkins> daftykins, You must be penalized for all the free insulation that British Gas et al have been offering people so they can sell less gas for more money, it seems
[18:15] <daftykins> awilkins: if only ;) don't have them over here
[18:15] <daftykins> 'tis Guernsey Gas!
[18:20] <awilkins> Why not just shove a hosepipe up a cow's bum?
[18:22] <MartijnVdS> that's what Guernsey Gas is
[18:22] <daftykins> ^
[19:30] <diddledan> lol
[19:31] <diddledan> 134 per day?!
[19:31] <diddledan> that's a lot
[19:31] <diddledan> so that's an average of £40 minimum charge per month (with zero actual gas usage)
[19:32] <diddledan> them cows must have gold-plated bums
[19:46] <directhex> daftykins: that's cheap per unit
[19:46] <directhex> daftykins: great if you drive a BEV!
[19:51] <daftykins> just a way of screwing the people that don't use much, more - or in their words 'recovering the cost of gas provision'
[19:51] <daftykins> i should gather my rates sometime and compare them to mainlander ways :)
[21:02] <diddledan> daftykins, do your gas prices vary depending on the bovine stock?
[21:05] <daftykins> diddledan: it's judged on a complicated system involving a team of divining rod enthusiasts
[21:07] <diddledan> aha
[21:26] <daftykins> directhex: gas though? o0
[21:32] <diddledan> daftykins, maybe you can put electric gas into a car?
[21:37] <daftykins> :)
[21:43] <diddledan> yummy choccy swiss roll
[21:44] <daftykins> aww you shouldn't have!
[22:46] <daftykins> the one doing today's rounds: http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/11/dell-does-superfish-ships-pcs-with-self-signed-root-certificates/
[22:46] <diddledan> ffs
[23:06] <diddledan> "when we were young" off adele's new album "25" is awesome
[23:07] <daftykins> i had to rip that for someone yesterday
[23:08] <daftykins> added it to their collection and thought... i'm sensing a theme here; album titles: 18, 21, 25
[23:08] <diddledan> yup
[23:08] <diddledan> although I think she's actually 27?
[23:08] * diddledan googles
[23:08] <diddledan> yup, she's 27
[23:09] <diddledan> maybe it's named 25 because that's when she started working on it?
[23:10] <daftykins> could've written them back then?
[23:22] <diddledan> another awesome one: million years ago
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-de
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[00:43] <freakyy> ok i dotn know - my vim is messed up. if i press i then backspace it doesnt erase if i press arrow keys it prints B and Ds into the file. i cant edit like this. can anyone tell me what i should add into vimrc file to fix this?
[00:59] <David1977> freakyy: this is a german Ubuntu channel ;)
[00:59] <David1977> freakyy: maybe deinstalling and reinstalling vim might help ;)
[01:13] <freakyy> danke sorry hab nur in der falschen sprache geschrieben ;D
[01:13] <freakyy> nein da musste ich was in die vimrc einfügen
[01:14] <David1977> alles klar...habe darin noch nicht rumgefrickelt. Von daher wäre es in dem Fall für mich einfacher gewesen es neu zu installieren ;)
[01:18] <krytarik> David1977: Nur hätte das nicht geholfen.
[01:18] <David1977> weil die config datei bestehen bleibt?
[01:18] <krytarik> Jap.
[01:19] <David1977> damn ;)
[01:19] <krytarik> Außerdem war es scheinbar nie richtig.
[01:19] <David1977> wie ist es wenn man die config datei löscht...legt vim dann eine mit default optionen neu an?
[01:20] <krytarik> Müsste ich testen. :P
[01:20] <David1977> ja, kann ich auch selber machen. Musst du jetzt nicht machen ;)
[01:20] <David1977> aber danke
[01:20] <krytarik> lol
[01:20] <David1977> dachte nur du wüsstest es vielleicht aus dem Stehgreif
[01:21] <krytarik> Nö, benutze seit Ewigkeiten meine derzeitige Config.
[01:21] <David1977> welche nimmt man denn da? /etc/vim/vimrc oder die in /usr/share?
[01:23] <David1977> ah, schon verstanden...etc ist global
[01:24] <David1977> oder, nee
[01:32] <krytarik> David1977: Die Letztere ist'n Symlink. :P
[01:33] <krytarik> (Zur Ersten.)
[01:33] <David1977> ach, natürlich...
[01:33] <David1977> ist schon spät und ich fühl mich nicht besonders :D
[01:33] <David1977> danke ;)
[01:33] <krytarik> lol
[01:34] <David1977> locate sollte da mehr infos rausspucken ;)
[01:39] <freakyy> gibts eigentlich kein gutes screenshot programm für gnome? dieses gnome-screenshot kann sich nichtmal den pfad merken wo ich das letzte bild gespeichert hab
[01:42] <David1977> bringt dir wahrscheinlich nicht viel...aber da ich Kubuntu nutze habe ich ksnapshot installiert und da kann ich direkt "speichern unter" anwenden
[01:42] <freakyy> hm ok
[01:42] <freakyy> ne ich mag kein kubuntu
[01:42] <freakyy> früher fand ichs besser als gnome aber inzwischen mag ich gnome lieber ;D
[01:43] <David1977> gibt auch ganz interessante command line tools dafür
[01:43] <David1977> scrot habe ich mal getested
[01:43] <freakyy> ne ich mag lieber gui tools
[01:43] <David1977> etwas kryptisch für einen einfachen screenshot, aber läuft
[01:44] <freakyy> ne das mag ich ned
[01:44] <David1977> sorry, wenn das doof klingt, aber kannst du nicht ksnapshot auch unter gnome installieren?
[01:44] <David1977> sudo apt-get install ksnapshot?!
[01:45] <freakyy> ich probiers mal
[01:47] <David1977> aber verurteil mich nicht, wenn das proggi kde abhängigkeiten benötigt
[01:47] <David1977> ich bin mir da unsicher
[01:47] <bunyip> klar, dann bekommt er den halben kde mit installiert
[01:48] <David1977> dann würde ich es lassen
[01:48] <David1977> das wäre dann etwas overkill ;)
[01:49] <freakyy> naja ich will kde eh noch installiern
[01:49] <bunyip> xfce4-screenshooter ist gut, ich weiss aber nicht wie viele deps das unter gnome rein zieht.
[01:49] <freakyy> damit ich da auch mal reinbooten kann und mir das so anguggn kann
[01:49] <David1977> gimp kann das aber auch, so wie es hier steht: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Bildschirmfotos
[01:50] <bunyip> dann ist es egal, wenn du eh kde installierst
[01:52] <freakyy> leute wie kann ich eigentlilhc kubuntu-desktop installiern, ohne dass der ubuntu splash screen beim booten weg geht und auch nicht der login manager?
[01:54] <David1977> ich meine, du kannst das mit dem Login manager einstellen
[01:55] <freakyy> ok und wie das mitm splash screen?
[01:55] <David1977> keine Ahnung
[01:55] <David1977> Ich habe mal Mate installiert und da ist jetzt auch ein anderer login manager
[01:55] <David1977> kümmert mich aber nicht
[01:58] <freakyy> hm, xfce4-screenshot is praktisch kann man direkt auf imgur hochladen. nur leider isses lang zum eintippen und es hat keine tray funktion so wie ich das jetzt sehe
[02:06] <krytarik> freakyy: Für Xfce schon.
[02:07] <krytarik> freakyy: Und vielleicht versuchst du's mal mit dem 'plasma-desktop'-Paket.
[02:11] <freakyy> das is kde oder? aber dann ahb ich ja ned den ganzen desktop oder? ich weiss ned ... weisst du das oder ist das von dir auch nur geraten?
[02:11] <freakyy> krytarik
[02:11] <k1l_> das zieht dir einen arsch voll kde kram mit
[02:11] <freakyy> wb David1977
[02:12] <k1l_> und der kde kram ist zur zeit eh eher dafür bekannt nicht zu funktionieren. also ist das dann doppelt unnötig
[02:12] <krytarik> "<freakyy> leute wie kann ich eigentlilhc kubuntu-desktop installiern, ohne dass der ubuntu splash screen beim booten weg geht und auch nicht der login manager?"
[02:12] <krytarik> ↑
[02:13] <freakyy> ok gut danke ;D
[02:13] <freakyy> das probier ich dann mal aus morgen
[02:13] <freakyy> jetzt muss ihc shclafen gehn
[02:13] <bunyip> setze dir ein alias in die .bashrc, z.b.: alias shot='xfce-screenshooter'
[02:13] <k1l_> ich weiß auch gar nicht ob kde5 ohne ssdm überhaupt funktioniert.
[02:13] <freakyy> sitz schon den ganzen tag for ubuntu .. leider hab ich innerhalb von 5 stunden keinen prop. graka treiber installiert bekommen ;(
[02:14] <freakyy> vor
[02:15] <freakyy> k1l_: ok danke evtl installier ichs dann doch ned mal guggn
[02:16] <freakyy> jenachdem wie viel lust ich hab
[02:16] <freakyy> was macht ihr eigentlich den ganzen tag so mit eurem linux?
[02:16] <freakyy> auch rumspielen? :D
[02:17] <bunyip> produktiv arbeiten, alles was man mit einem Betriebssystem bzw. dessen Programmen so macht.
[02:21] <freakyy> bunyip: hm ok ;D
[02:21] <freakyy> so ich bin dann mal off
[02:21] <freakyy> gdn8
[11:29] <tokam> Hi, ich habe gerade auf Ubuntu 15.10 geupdatet.
[11:29] <tokam> Wenn ich neu starte erscheint keine GUI.
[11:29] <tokam> Es ko
[11:29] <tokam> Es kommt ein Fehler in main.c mit einer Zeilennummer. auf tty7
[11:30] <tokam> ich habe nun mit startx xorg auf tty 8 gestartet und eine GUI erhalten.
[11:30] <tokam> Was kann ich tun, damit ich wieder zugang zu xorg habe?
[11:30] <tokam> nach dem normalen Start des PCs
[11:35] <tokam> I am having an Lenovo G550
[11:45] <dadrc> tokam: pack mal die Fehlermeldung in einen Pastebin und gib uns die URL
[11:47] <tokam> die kann ich gerade nicht abrufen.
[11:50] <dadrc> Ohne Fehlermeldung kriegen wir aber nicht raus, was schiefgelaufen ist
[11:50] <dadrc> Hast du überhaupt Zugriff auf das System?
[11:51] <tokam> ja ich konnte eine GUI starten mit startx auf anderem tty
[11:51] <tokam> ich starte mal den PC neu und hoffe gleich wieder hier zu sein mit Fehlermeldung
[11:51] <dadrc> ok. netzwerk auch da?
[11:51] <dadrc> warte ma, kriegen wir auch ohne neustart hin
[11:51] <tokam> oder ohne, weil ich andere Nvidia Treiber installiert habe.
[11:51] <tokam> ok....
[11:52] <dadrc> Geh mal in /var/log
[11:52] <tokam> ach komm, ich bin in 3-4 Minuten wieder hier (habe SSDs)
[12:01] <tokam> Hi, hatte nicht direkt wieder Internet
[12:01] <tokam> Funktioniert leider noch nicht
[12:03] <tokam> Also es wird nur eine Zeile direkt nach dem Start angezeigt:
[12:03] <tokam> [main.c:1921] check_verbosity:redirecting debug output to /dev/tty7
[12:07] <tokam> dadrc: Hast Du eine Idee?
[12:14] <tokam> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[12:16] <stevieh> tokam: bleibt der Bildschirm komplett schwarz oder kommt dann ne Konsole?
[12:17] <tokam> er bleibt schwarz und oben steht in weiß diese Meldung stevieh
[12:18] <tokam> Ich nutze Mate
[12:19] <stevieh> dann solltest du mal schauen, was in der /var/log/X.org.0.log steht, wenn er nicht startet
[12:20] <tokam> in dieser Datei stevieh? Ich habe ja danach mit startx gestartet
[12:20] <tokam> startx -- :1 vt8
[12:21] <stevieh> na, dann lass das mal, bei nächsten Mal. Bzw. kann sein, dass es dann ne andere X.org.1... oder so ist. Mussu reinschauen und Zeitstempel schauen.
[12:21] <tokam> und auf tty7 ist immer noch die fehlerhafte xorg
[12:21] <stevieh> das würde mich wundern
[12:22] <tokam> Die Zeitstempel sehen merkwürdig aus. 54.587
[12:23] <tokam> Ahh oben am Kopf der Datei steht eine Zeit
[12:26] <tokam> ich sehe aber nichts verdächtiges in der log datei
[12:26] <tokam> da steht welche treiber geladen wurden
[12:30] <tokam> Was kann es denn noch sein, wenn xorg mit startx startet aber nicht beim booten
[12:31] <stevieh> was ist denn der dm unter mate?
[12:31] <tokam> gnome?
[12:31] <stevieh> da kackt wohl die xsession ab
[12:31] <tokam> stevieh: normalerweise kommt doch immer der ubuntu anmelde bildschirm
[12:31] <tokam> dieser erscheint nicht
[12:32] <stevieh> probier mal - ohne dass ein X gestartet ist, als root "service lightdm start"
[12:32] <tokam> ok, dann bin ich aber kurz weg
[12:32] <tokam> wie schaffe ich es, dass kein X gestartet ist
[12:33] <tokam> das startet sich doch immer wieder neu, wenn ich x kille
[12:33] <tokam> muss ich vorher gdm beenden?
[12:33] <stevieh> schau mit ps nach, ob da überhaupt ein X läuft - und wenn ja, service lightdm stop
[12:33] <tokam> ok
[12:33] <tokam> dann bin ich kurz weg
[12:33] <stevieh> sicher, dass da ein gdm läuft? wenn ja dann änder das von oben in gdm.
[12:33] <stevieh> too late ;-)
[12:38] <tokam> da bekomme ich exit status 1
[12:39] <tokam> ich versuche ein pastebin zu erstellen
[12:40] <tokam> http://pastebin.info/?paste=2661
[12:41] <tokam> line 137 enthält einen critical error
[12:43] <stevieh> und der dm läuft danach nicht?
[12:43] <tokam> hier der vollständige log: http://pastebin.com/j0b1r5c0
[12:44] <tokam> nein der läuft danach nicht
[12:45] <stevieh> ist das neu neuinstallation?
[12:45] <stevieh> ah, update von 15.04 auf 15.10...
[12:45] <stevieh> ich würde eher am Ende den Fehler mal gugln
[12:48] <tokam> soll ich dann diesen patch installieren?
[12:48] <tokam> https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/test/
[12:48] <tokam> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/marco/+bug/1496574
[12:49] <tokam> hier habe ich noch etwas gefunden
[12:49] <tokam> https://askubuntu.com/questions/692590/hard-crash-on-gnome-x-login-after-15-10-upgrade
[12:50] <tokam> stevieh: gibt es eine möglichkeit das problem zu lösen oder zu umgehen?
[12:51] <stevieh> ich weiss nicht...
[12:52] <k1l_> was ist das problem? du kommst nicht mehr rein nahc dem upgrade?
[12:52] <stevieh> tokam: probier mal den gdm durch den lightdm zu ersetzen.
[12:53] <tokam> service lightdm start stürzt ab k1l_
[12:53] <tokam> startx (auf einem freien tty) klappt aber
[12:53] <tokam> stevieh: wie mache ich das?
[12:53] <k1l_> startx verbiegt einem auch eher die rechte
[12:53] <stevieh> also, was für einen dm hast du nun am laufen?
[12:53] <k1l_> was kommt denn wenn du sudo service lightdm restart machst?
[12:53] <stevieh> gdm oder lightdm?
[12:54] <tokam> k1l_: ich hatte lightdm gestoppt
[12:55] <tokam> stevieh: ich habe einfach startx eingetippt aktuell
[12:55] <k1l_> also vom backlog sieht mir das nach nvidia treiber geshizzle aus. hast du da mal treiber per hand installiert?
[12:55] <tokam> k1l_: und dann lightdm wieder gestartet was zu einem exit 1 führte mit hinweis auf einen befehl der mir einen error.log ausgab nämlich diesen
[12:55] <stevieh> nein, ich meine welcher dm ist installiert...
[12:55] <tokam> http://pastebin.com/j0b1r5c0
[12:55] <tokam> stevieh: wo sehe ich das
[12:55] <stevieh> ok, ich bin draussen, ist mir zu hektisch
[12:55] <tokam> k1l_: ja, ich habe nachdem der fehler auftrat auf den treiber nochmal geupgraded
[12:55] <k1l_> du redest von gnome. ist das ein ubuntu-gnome?
[12:56] <tokam> ja ubuntu 15.10 gnome (mit Mate)
[12:56] <tokam> Mate hatte ich nachinstalliert, nachdem es raus kam.
[12:56] <tokam> es sind die Pakete lightdm und gdm installiert
[12:56] <tokam> soll ich lightdm mit synaptics deinstallieren?
[12:57] <k1l_> also das kann schon sein. dass sich da verschiedene nachinstallierte gnome-mate sachen in die quere kommen
[12:58] <tokam> und was sollte ich tun (außer alles neuinstallieren?)
[12:58] <tokam> wenn ich lightdm deinstalliere wird ubuntu-desktop deinstalliert
[12:58] <tokam> zumindest beim vollständigen deinstallieren
[12:58] <k1l_> ubuntu-desktop nutzt du doch gar nicht
[12:59] <k1l_> du hast doch gnome-shell oder mate da in der nutzung dachte ich
[12:59] <tokam> also deinstalliere ich mal lightdm
[13:00] <k1l_> jo, alles wegmachen (auch den händischen nvidia) dann mate-desktop-environment installieren.
[13:00] <k1l_> mate ist ja seit 14.04 in den ubuntu repos drin
[13:02] <tokam> oh jetzt wird ein neuer kernel gebaut
[13:04] <tokam> Obwohl ich Mate nutzte war das Paket Ubuntu-Mate-Desktop nicht installiert
[13:06] <tokam> Ärgere mich schon ein bisschen auf 15.10 geupdatet zu haben :D
[13:06] <stevieh> ahwas
[13:06] <tokam> irgendetwas wird verändert sein oder nicht mehr gehen
[13:07] <tokam> **reboot
[13:07] <tokam> danke :)
[13:07] <freakyy> ich hab ubuntu mit lvm installiert - wo finde ich jetzt ein backup tool das die snapshots speichern kann? :D
[13:08] <freakyy> so ich google mal nach mate desktop mich interessiert mal was das is ;D
[13:10] <freakyy> ubuntu mate sieht ja aus wie gnome ;D
[13:11] <tokam> Also die Installation von Ubuntu-Mate-Desktop hat wohl lightdm wieder installiert, zumindest war das aktiv
[13:11] <tokam> und es kam wieder zum Fehler beim Start
[13:12] <freakyy> ich will neuen ati treiber wie oft werden denn die gereleased
[13:13] <k1l_> freakyy: du willst keine neuen. du willst welche die funktionieren.
[13:13] <k1l_> freakyy: und pro ubuntu release gibts meistens keine neuen von ubuntu.
[13:13] <stevieh> tokam: das ist doch die normale intel grafik?... ich denke das ist kein grafik thema, wenn startx geht
[13:14] <tokam> kann sein, aber was tun damit ich starten kann
[13:14] <freakyy> k1l_: was is pro ubuntu release?
[13:15] <k1l_> ich glaube fast, dass das ein hybridgraka problem ist. beim start mit lightdm ist die falsche karte nicht fertig. und ich könnte mir vorstellen, dass da gleichzeitig noch nen paar PPAs schräge abhängigkeiten reinbringen bei mate was ja ein gnome downgrade macht bei manchen sachen
[13:15] <stevieh> tokam: ist das nun ne reine intel grafik oder was istdrin?
[13:16] <k1l_> freakyy: ubuntu 15.04 hat eine version von fglry, 15.10 hat eine neuere version von fglrx,....
[13:16] <tokam> http://pastebin.info/?paste=2663
[13:17] <tokam> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[13:18] <k1l_> also gar keine nvidia?
[13:18] <stevieh> sach ich doch
[13:21] <tokam> was kann ich tun?
[13:23] <stevieh> gugln
[13:25] <k1l_> tokam: also nochmal: der lightdm startet gar nicht?
[13:25] <tokam> nein
[13:25] <tokam> service gdm funktioniert, aber es erscheint hier kein bild
[13:25] <k1l_> und das mit dem startx würde ich wie gesagt lassen, weil dir das von einigen sachen die rechte verbiegt
[13:26] <tokam> service lightdm führt zu einem exit 1 und dem pastebin den ich vorhin gepostet habe
[13:26] <k1l_> wenn gdm geht, dann gibts auch nen bild.
[13:26] <tokam> k1l_: das kommando lief durch aber es kam kein bild.
[13:27] <tokam> ich habe jemanden gefunden der beim upgrade auf 14.4 mit mate das gleiche problem hatte, dann gnome installierte und es behoben war das probiere ich nun auch
[13:29] <tokam> *reboot
[13:44] <tokam> Jetzt kommt Xorg nach dem Start aber er sagt, dass er in einem low graphics mode sei und die Treiber nicht erkannt habe und ich die Konfig ändern müsse
[13:44] <tokam> mit startx funktioniert xorg aber noch
[13:45] <k1l> welche graka hast du denn da genau?
[13:45] <k1l> und was hast du da an treibern händisch installiert?
[13:46] <tokam> diese 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[13:46] <tokam> die im Lenovo G550 installiert ist.
[13:46] <tokam> Ich hatte die ganzen Nvidia sachen entfernt
[13:46] <tokam> und probiere es nun nochmal mit.
[13:46] <tokam> Es muss ja einen Grund haben, warum ich die mal aufgespielt hatte
[13:46] <k1l> *sigh*
[13:46] <tokam> ?
[13:47] <tokam> was heißt das
[13:47] <k1l> das soll einen seuftzer meinerseits darstellen
[13:47] <tokam> gut dass es nichts nationalsozialistisches bedeutet
[13:48] <tokam> was empfiehlst du denn?
[13:48] <k1l> ich versteh nicht ganz warum du da nichtmal der sache auf den grund gehst und stattdessen immer mehr sachen machst die die lösung des eigentlichen problems nur noch deutlich erschweren
[13:48] <k1l> für mich klingt das nach einem super zerbasteltem system.
[13:49] <tokam> wie gehe ich dem auf den grund?
[13:49] <tokam> ich starte mal neu und lese mir den fehler bericht durch
[13:49] <k1l> welche PPAs sind denn da immernoch aktiv? welcher kernel?
[13:50] <k1l> ....
[13:56] <tokam> Ich werde aus dem Fehlerbericht nicht schlau. Das Datum darin scheint auch immer falsch zu sein.
[13:56] <tokam> Ich kann in diesem minimalen xorg auch nicht die xorg-conf anzeigen.
[13:56] <tokam> Oder bearbeiten, obwohl es angeboten wird im Menü.
[13:57] <tokam> Das automatische reprarieren der config scheint auch ohne Erfolg zu sein.
[13:57] <tokam> Rekonfiguration von xorg habe ich schon ausgeführt.
[13:58] <tokam> ich deinstalliere gnome und nvidia-drivers wieder
[13:58] <k1l> warum hast du denn überhaupt die nvidia treiber installiert o_O
[13:59] <tokam> weiß ich auch nicht
[13:59] <tokam> kann es sein, dass die intel karte diesen nutzen kann?
[13:59] <k1l> nein
[13:59] <tokam> in ausnahmefällen?
[13:59] <k1l> nicht wenn du eine hybridkarte (also nvidia graka und cpu mit integrierter intel graka) hast
[14:00] <tokam> was kann ich jetzt machen
[14:01] <tokam> ich gehe halt bei Ubuntu davon aus, mir keine xorg conf schreiben zu müssen
[14:01] <k1l> auf jeden fall mal den nvidia treiber da runterschmeissen
[14:01] <k1l> tokam: bei deinem bastelsystem wundert mich gar nichts
[14:01] <tokam> habe ich schon
[14:02] <tokam> weiter?
[14:02] <k1l> was für PPAs hast du da noch?
[14:03] <tokam> http://pastebin.info/?paste=2664
[14:05] <k1l> "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/"
[14:05] <tokam> ich habe einen im GL40 Chipsatz integrierten, GMA 4500M Grafikchip
[14:06] <tokam> http://pastebin.info/?paste=2665
[14:08] <tokam> Die Fehlermeldung besagte, dass keine Graphic und Input devices erkannt wurden.
[14:08] <k1l> kannst du jetzt mal "dmesg" in einen pastebin packen?
[14:08] <tokam> http://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error
[14:09] <tokam> http://pastebin.info/?paste=2666
[14:10] <k1l> welcher kernel ist bei "uname -a"?
[14:10] <k1l> ist nur eine zeile, kann ruhig hier rien
[14:11] <tokam> http://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error/141607#141607
[14:11] <tokam> Linux localhost.altergear.net 4.2.0-19-generic #23-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 11 11:39:30 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:13] <k1l> apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-intel
[14:16] <tokam> http://pastebin.info/?paste=2667
[14:16] <tokam> Ich habe meine lightdm config angepasst und teste ob es nun klappt.
[14:21] <tokam> k1l: hat nichts gebracht. unity-greeter ist auch bereits installiert
[14:22] <tokam> k1l: ich kann auch mal genau das machen was du sagst?
[14:23] <tokam> hier steht dass ich ein neues ppa hinzufügen solle
[14:23] <tokam> http://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error
[14:23] <tokam> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa -y
[14:28] <tokam> *reboot
[14:28] <freakyy> also ich krieg mein ati treiber auch nicht installiert. ich hab source compile, build package - alles versucht. auch die packages in zusätzliche treiber nix compiliert, generiert oder funktioniert
[14:28] <k1l> freakyy: wat?
[14:29] <k1l> freakyy: warum kompilierst du da selber?
[14:29] <freakyy> weil build package auch nicht funktoniert
[14:29] <freakyy> da findet er nachdem er 5-10 mins gearbeitet hat die .deb files ned
[14:30] <k1l> so funktioniert das auch nicht. das sind binary blobs und keine open source pakete.
[14:30] <freakyy> ja aber der installer sollte doch seine iegenen pakete finden
[14:30] <freakyy> der ati installer von der amd website
[14:30] <k1l> welches howto befolgst du da?
[14:30] <freakyy> moment
[14:32] <freakyy> https://github.com/kolasa/fglrx-core-15.201/issues/2 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD https://bluehatrecord.wordpress.com/2015/09/17/installing-the-proprietary-amd-catalyst-15-9-fglrx-15-201-driver-on-fedora-22-with-linux-kernel-4-1-6/
[14:32] <freakyy> hab aber kernel 4.2
[14:32] <k1l> du hast da schon gesehen, dass da "FEDORA" steht?
[14:32] <k1l> freakyy: du willst also umbedingt dein system grillen?
[14:32] <freakyy> ja aber ich konnte es ja mal versuchen mit dem compiliern
[14:33] <freakyy> nein will ich ned
[14:33] <freakyy> in jedem fall ahts eh ned funktoniert
[14:33] <k1l> https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Grafikkarten/AMD/FGLRX
[14:33] <k1l> deutsches ubuntu wiki.
[14:33] <k1l> und warum nochmal genau installierst du nicht einfach das "fglrx" paket aus dem ubuntu repo?
[14:34] <tokam> Hallo liebe Ubuntu Gemeinde.
[14:34] <tokam> Ich kann immer noch nicht lightdm starten nach dem Update auf 15.10
[14:35] <freakyy> k1l: weil wenn der treiber geladen ist sehe ich lauter bunte linien schwarze balken, alles is verschoben also bild gehts rechts raus fängtl links wieder an
[14:35] <freakyy> k1l: und alles reagiert sehr langsam und is kaum lesbar
[14:36] <k1l> freakyy: schua mal nach ob das bei deiner ubuntu version und deiner graka ein bekanntes problem ist.
[14:36] <tokam> k1l: was soll ich tun
[14:37] <k1l> tokam: was sagt das Xorg.log in /var/log =
[14:37] <k1l> ?
[14:37] <freakyy> k1l: wo soll ich da nachguggn?
[14:38] <k1l> freakyy: "lspci" nennt dir die graka
[14:38] <tokam> http://pastebin.info/?paste=2668
[14:39] <freakyy> Radeon HD 7550M <-- hab nachgeguggd aber konnte jetzt auf die schnell kein bugreport finden
[14:39] <tokam> k1l: ich glaube der log ist spannender: http://pastebin.info/?paste=2669
[14:40] <k1l> tokam: welcher ist das?
[14:40] <tokam> der failsafe log
[14:40] <tokam> ein Ausschnitt davon. Oben stehen ältere Sachen.
[14:41] <stevieh> ich glaub nicht, dass das zielführend ist.
[14:43] <tokam> ich habe nach der Fehlermeldung gesucht und das hier gefunden
[14:43] <tokam> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1484137
[14:43] <k1l> freakyy: dann guck mal ob du den fglrx von deren amd/ati seite laden kannst und ob der dann besser funkioniert
[14:43] <tokam> die haben eine intel 945 ich eine intel 965 Karte
[14:43] <k1l> freakyy: anleitung findest du im ubuntusers wiki
[14:43] <k1l> ist die kiste so alt?
[14:44] <tokam> in der xorg.conf.failsafe steht Driver dbdev
[14:44] <tokam> fbdev
[14:45] <tokam> ich habe keine /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:45] <tokam> nur eine /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsage
[14:46] <tokam> nur eine /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe
[14:46] <freakyy> k1l: ich hab doch schon gesagt ich hab den ati treiber von deren website runtergeladen hab alles so gemacht wie in dem tutorial und mit noch paar anderen sachen aber wie gesagt, nachdem er dann die packages angeblich erstellt hat, findet er die .deb also die packages nicht und kommt immer nur file or directory not found
[14:47] <k1l> tokam: eigentlich sollte die karte ootb laufen. intel ist da mit abstand am pflegeleichtesten. irgendwo scheint da in deinem system mal etwas verdammt schief gelaufen zu sein. versuch mal einen apt-get purge lightdm und danach wieder neu installieren
[14:47] <tokam> ootb?
[14:48] <k1l> out of the box
[14:48] <k1l> freakyy: du kannst da direkt den installer runterladen. und vergiss blos das fedora howto.
[14:48] <k1l> freakyy: schau im wiki nach
[14:48] <tokam> was soll ich nach dem purge machen?
[14:49] <k1l> apt-get install lightdm
[14:49] <tokam> Vorgegebene Anzeigenverwaltung: gdm, lightdm ?
[14:49] <k1l> k.a. was ubuntu mate da standardmässig nutzt
[14:49] <freakyy> k1l: auf welcher seite?
[14:49] <tokam> lightdm
[14:50] <k1l> freakyy: ubuntuusers.de
[14:50] <tokam> k1l: reboot?
[14:50] <k1l> so, ich muss jetzt mal afk
[14:50] <k1l> tokam: ja
[14:50] <tokam> k1l: ist es ein Problem, dass ich keine xorg.conf habe?
[14:50] <k1l> tokam: nein
[14:50] <tokam> bis gleich
[14:52] <freakyy> k1l: von da hab ich die treiber schon ...
[14:52] <freakyy> da steht auch Der aktuelle Treiber ist von der AMD-Homepage {en} herunterzuladen.
[14:55] <freakyy> also wie gesagt ich hab alle möglichen tuts etc. durch und nix hilft
[15:00] <freakyy> ich mag paste.ubuntu.com und pastebinit funktkoniert auch gut damit ... das hab ich gleich mal auf meim debian server als default eingestellt mit der .pastebinit.xml ;D
[16:57] <tokam> k1l: habe immer noch das Problem
[16:58] <tokam> http://pastebin.info/?paste=2670
[17:10] <stevieh> tokam: tja, da musst du wohl echt rausbekommen, warum der lightdm stirbt
[17:10] <stevieh> d.h. debugging anschauen
[17:11] <tokam> und wie=
[17:12] <stevieh> tante gugl benutzen.
[17:12] <stevieh> https://astoryworthtelling.wordpress.com/2013/06/04/debugging-lightdm/
[17:15] <tokam> ich habe diese greeters
[17:15] <tokam> lightdm-greeter.desktop lightdm-gtk-greeter.desktop unity-greeter.desktop
[17:15] <iw2> nabend,
[17:16] <tokam> http://pastebin.info/?paste=2671
[17:16] <iw2> ich versuche gerade 14.04.3 LTS (server) zu installieren
[17:16] <iw2> nach der partitionierung legt der installer los mit dem formatieren
[17:16] <iw2> und dann ist auf einmal der balken weg und nichts passiert
[17:16] <stevieh> tokam: oh mann. Denk doch mal etwas abstrakter: schalte das debugging ein und lies dessen ausgabe.
[17:17] <tokam> stevieh: habe ich das nicht gemacht (und im pastebin gepostet?)
[17:18] <stevieh> nein
[17:18] <freakyy> tokam: warum benutzt du eigentlich lightdm?
[17:18] <freakyy> is der besser als der gdm?
[17:18] <stevieh> du sollste schauen, wo der lightdm gestartet wird und dort das debug flag setzen
[17:18] <tokam> freakyy: ich vermute weil es mate unterstützt?
[17:19] <freakyy> tokam: hm ok :)
[17:19] <tokam> also hier ... /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[17:19] <tokam> ?
[17:28] <iw2> an eine konsole komme ich ran, mit alt-f2 aber was dann? habs erstmal mit dmesg -k versucht, aber da kommt nichts
[17:29] <iw2> oh, ich glaube es geht weiter ...
[17:33] <tokam> Eventuell hat das hier irgendwie mit meinem Problem zu tun
[17:33] <tokam> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2242119&page=1
[17:34] <tokam> aber das ist schon sehr alt
[17:49] <tokam> http://pastebin.info/?paste=2672
[17:51] <stevieh> tokam: und, was steht in /var/log/lightdm/x-0-greeter.log?
[17:52] <tokam> Error writing X authority: Failed to open X authority /var/lib/lightdm/.Xauthority: No such file or directory
[17:52] <stevieh> da würde ich jetzt am ehesten suchen.
[17:52] <stevieh> haha danach kannste jetzt gugln und gut ist.
[17:53] <tokam> http://askubuntu.com/questions/692577/ubuntu-15-10-boot-hangs-when-starting-lightdm
[17:54] <tokam> der Ordner existiert nicht.
[17:54] <tokam> Also lege ich den an?
[17:54] <stevieh> ein guter plan
[17:54] <tokam> es gibt aber /var/lib/lightdm-data/lightdm
[17:54] <stevieh> oh es gibt in München auch ein Hofbräuhaus
[17:55] <tokam> eventuell ist ein symlink besser als den Ordner anzulegen?
[17:55] <stevieh> alter, mach den Ordner und gut ist.
[17:56] <tokam> wie bist du darauf gekommen da nachzusehen?
[17:56] <tokam> *reboot
[17:56] <stevieh> wo nach? Warum der lightdm aussteigt? Na, so ein log musst du in beiden Richtungen lesen.
[17:57] <tokam> wie meinst du das
[17:57] <stevieh> von unten gelesen räumt der nur noch auf...
[17:57] <tokam> wie bist du zum greeter log gekommen
[17:57] <tokam> ahh
[17:57] <tokam> [+0.21s] DEBUG: Session pid=4899: Logging to /var/log/lightdm/x-0-greeter.log
[17:57] <stevieh> genau.
[17:57] <tokam> reboot
[17:57] <stevieh> mann mann mann :-)
[18:00] <tokam> jetzt ist etwas verrücktes passiert stevieh
[18:00] <tokam> Nach dem Booten kam der Fehler, wenn ich aber lightdm als root im Debug-Mode gestartet habe, funktionierte alles.
[18:01] <stevieh> dann lies nach dem booten, was im log des greeters steht und mach die rechte des ordners und den owner richtig.
[18:02] <tokam> die sind richtig
[18:02] <tokam> also so wie unter dem link beschrieben.
[18:02] <stevieh> dann schau ins Log
[18:02] <tokam> ich reboote nochmal und schaue mir nochmal den greeter log an.
[18:03] <tokam> in dem log steht immer noch: Error writing X authority: Failed to open X authority /var/lib/lightdm/.Xauthority: No such file or directory
[18:03] <tokam> obwohl lightdm valide startete
[18:03] <tokam> ich lösche mal den inhalt des logs
[18:03] <tokam> und starte nun neu
[18:03] <stevieh> und nach dem booten lightdm mit "service lightdm start" geht?
[18:03] <stevieh> würde mich wundern.
[18:04] <tokam> lightdm --debug --test-mode ging
[18:04] <tokam> reboot ok?
[18:04] <tokam> 3
[18:05] <tokam> 2
[18:05] <tokam> 1
[18:06] <stevieh> er will nicht hören :-)
[18:06] <tokam> jetzt ging es!
[18:06] <tokam> ich habe nochmal ein reconfigure durchgeführt
[18:06] <stevieh> na siehste.
[18:06] <tokam> und ich will nicht hören?
[18:06] <stevieh> hat ja nur 6h gedauert.
[18:07] <stevieh> lightdm als root starten nützt dir nix, wenn du kapieren willst, warum die Rechte nicht stimmen...
[18:07] <tokam> stimmt
[18:08] <stevieh> aber das ist alles auch ne Erfahrungssache: lernen solltest du draus, systematischer vorzugehen und nicht wirr alle hacks aus dem Netz auszuprobieren.
[18:09] <tokam> ok
[18:09] <tokam> ich würde mal sagen, dass das ein Bug war!
[18:09] <tokam> Der eigentlich hätte nicht auftreten dürfen
[18:10] <stevieh> ja, das stimmt.
[18:10] <stevieh> aber so isses. Immerhin bekommt man unter Linux - wenn man lesen kann - genug infos und die Möglichkeit sowas zu fixen.
[18:11] <tokam> Und es gibt eine gute Community mit Leuten wie Dir stevieh und k1l! Vielen Dank :)
[18:11] <stevieh> you're welcome!
[19:17] <tessarakt> Hi! Wollte von 15.04 auf 15.10 upgraden ...
[19:17] <tessarakt> Ergebnis: "Es konnte nicht ermittelt werden, welche Systemaktualisierungen verfügbar sind" und dieses /var/log/dist-upgrade/20151123-1956/apt.log: http://pastebin.com/8KKn4vHH
[19:17] <tessarakt> hat jemand eine Idee, was das Problem ist?
[19:18] <k1l> was sagt "lsb_release -d"?
[19:18] <tessarakt> Description: Ubuntu 15.04
[19:19] <k1l> kannst du mal "apt-cache policy" in einen pastbin packen?
[19:21] <tessarakt> http://pastebin.com/WrBP3BXC
[19:21] <k1l> jo, das sieht eigentlich gut aus
[19:21] <k1l> "sudo apt update && sudo do-release-upgrade" geht nicht?
[19:22] <tessarakt> apt-get?
[19:22] <k1l> kannst nochmal in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades gucken wodrauf der release prompt steht
[19:23] <tessarakt> Prompt=normal
[19:23] <k1l> dann mal <k1l> "sudo apt update && sudo do-release-upgrade" geht nicht?
[19:23] <k1l> apt ist das neue apt-get
[19:23] <tessarakt> oh
[19:23] <tessarakt> gut zu wissen
[19:24] <tessarakt> das apt update findet die Listen vom kubuntu-ppa nicht
[19:24] <tessarakt> keine Ahnung, wie schlimm das ist
[19:26] <tessarakt> und beim do-release-upgrade kommt die oben schon zitierte Meldung
[19:26] <tessarakt> "Ein unlösbares Problem trat beim Ermitteln der Systemaktualisierung auf."
[19:27] <k1l> ok, "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"
[19:28] <tessarakt> http://pastebin.com/u24zBwEd
[19:30] <k1l> ja super. das kubuntu ppa hat gar keine pakete für vivid. deaktivier das mal komplett
[19:31] <k1l> btw: die ganzen alten PPAs die du eh nicht mehr nutzt (so natty etc zeiten) kannste auch einfach mal komplett löschen wenn die eh deaktiviert sind und nicht genutzt werden)
[19:36] <tessarakt> ok, werd ich mal probieren ...
[19:41] <tessarakt> ok, war mal nötig, hat aber leider nichts gebracht
[19:41] <k1l> auch das kubuntu ppa deaktiviert?
[19:41] <k1l> dann nen sudo apt update gemacht?
[19:42] <tessarakt> ja ...
[19:43] <k1l> strange
[19:44] <k1l> was gibt jetzt grep -P '^[ \t]*[^#[ \t]+' /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list aus?
[19:45] <tessarakt> http://pastebin.com/6tHSWarQ
[19:46] <k1l> also es wird sicher daran liegen, dass er da jetzt durch ppas oder andere fremdquellen pakete hat die nicht in der normalen version vorliegen und nun weiß er nicht wie er die upgraden soll
[19:47] <tessarakt> ja, schon klar ...
[19:47] <tessarakt> wenn ich wüsste, um welches Paket es geht, hätte ich vermutlich keine Probleme, das runterzuschmeißen ...
[19:51] <k1l> das dist-upgrade log da ist halt schon extrem.
[19:51] <k1l> manchmal hat man da 1-2 files drin aus nem ppa und die nimmt man raus und gut ist
[19:51] <tessarakt> http://pastebin.com/DXsH5DKi
[19:52] <tessarakt> cheese-common war eins von den Paketen, was in dem Log am Ende stand
[19:52] <tessarakt> die Aktionen, die er dann durchführen will, finde ich ziemlich umfangreich ...
[19:54] <k1l> aber hilft wohl nix.
[19:55] <k1l> das mal säubern lassen und nachher wieder den -desktop installieren den du nutzen möchtest
[19:56] <tessarakt> jo, danke auf jeden Fall
[19:56] <tessarakt> wird schon irgendwie klappen :-)
[19:56] <tessarakt> bin ich froh, dass meine Software in einem kontrollierterem Umfeld läuft ...
[20:19] <freakyy> ok also ich kann wohl nur auf nen neuen release warten des grafiktreibers ... ansonsten krieg ich das einfach ned hin ;(((
[20:20] <tessarakt> "Obsolete and Locally Created Packages" in aptitude ist eine gute Hilfe
[20:20] <tessarakt> ziemlich viel Unsinn, der da aufgelistet ist
[20:35] <k1l> freakyy: wo genau traten denn probleme auf? "mein auto geht nicht mehr" hilft halt nicht wirklich weiter
[20:35] <k1l> freakyy: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Grafikkarten/AMD/fglrx/Manuelle_Treiberinstallation
[20:39] <dreamon> Kann mit Bluetooth auf meine Soundbar verbinden. Aber in den Lautsprecher Einstellungen wird bluetooth nicht als Ausgabegerät angezeigt.
[20:41] <MrFastDie> Hey :) Wenn ich in drittprogrammen auf einen Link klicke öffnet es nur ein leeres Browserfenster; Ubuntu 15.10 Browser: Chrome; kennt jemand das Problem?
[20:47] <freakyy> k1l: du wolltest mir heute mittag schon helfen ich hab aber schon alles versucht bei allem treten probleme auf. package generation werden die pakete ned generiert und ubuntu treiber zeigt kaputtes bild an und alles is langsam
[20:48] <freakyy> k1l: bei der anleitung kommt nur die meldung no such file or directory für alle .deb files die er installiern will.
[20:48] <freakyy> und in /usr/share/ati/fglrx-install.log steht nix darüber drin
[20:52] <k1l> freakyy: stop.
[20:52] <freakyy> *stop*
[20:52] <freakyy> :p
[20:52] <k1l> fehlermeldungen haben einen sinn
[20:52] <k1l> dann macht man nicht einfach blind weiter sondern guckt und liest warum da der fehler genau kommt.
[20:52] <freakyy> da sis mir schon klar
[20:53] <freakyy> aber wenn bei der package generation einfach kein error ausser file not found da steht
[20:53] <freakyy> kann ich auch nix machen
[20:53] <k1l> also fang mal oben bei der anleitung an und arbeite die schritt für schritt ab und lies auch was da zwischen steht
[20:53] <k1l> freakyy: dann bist du im falschen verzeichnis?
[20:53] <k1l> also. fang oben an und sag dann genau wo wie und warum der fehler kommt
[20:53] <k1l> dann kann man gucken woran es liegt
[20:53] <freakyy> k1l: nein die .debs werden einfahc nicht erstellt
[20:54] <freakyy> ok mom ich mach das nochmal
[20:54] <k1l> aber dieses "ich hab keine ahnung, aber schon alles falsch versucht" hilft ja nicht weiter
[20:56] <freakyy> ok er generiert gerade das package "generiert" ;D
[20:56] <freakyy> ich pastebin dann den gesamten output
[20:56] <tech9> Wie kriege ich palemoon deinstalliert? Im Terminal mit sudo apt remove palemoon <- kommt die Meldung das es nicht vorhanden ist. Durch eingabe von palemoon wird der browser aber geöffnet
[20:57] <k1l> tech9: "dpkg -l | grep palemoon" gibts dir was?
[20:57] <tech9> dabei passiert nichts. Im Menü und synaptic ist es auch nicht
[20:58] <k1l> ach das kommt eh als 3rd party kram
[20:58] <tech9> brauche ich vielleicht dieses .deb?
[20:59] <k1l> wie hast du es denn isntalliert?
[20:59] <tech9> weiß ich nicht mehr.
[21:01] <k1l> ls -al ~/bin
[21:01] <k1l> taucht da palemoon auf?
[21:01] <tech9> verz. nicht vorhanden
[21:02] <k1l> ls -al /opt
[21:02] <tech9> jo da ist palemoon
[21:02] <freakyy> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13480254/
[21:03] <k1l> tech9: tjo, ich weiß nicht ob der installer auch ein remove script hat. ansonsten mal den ordner da löschen und gucken obs noch im path drinne steht sonst
[21:04] <tech9> ok
[21:05] <k1l> freakyy: wo kommt das "--buildpkg Ubuntu/wily" her?
[21:05] <tech9> hab den ordner gelöscht. Danke für den tipp k1l
[21:06] <freakyy> k1l: anderes howto ... soll ichs nach dem howto von dir nochmal machen? macht aber keinen unterschied
[21:06] <k1l> freakyy: mir egal
[21:06] <freakyy> k1l: ja kannst du mir weiter helfen irgendwie? :)
[21:07] <k1l> ich habe dir jetzt 44564565646456456 mal gesagt welches howto du wie nutzen sollst. wenn du dann immernoch sachen selber abänderst oder von woanders nimmst, dann kann ich meine zeit auch anders verplempern. viel erfolg
[21:08] <freakyy> ja ich wusste nichtmehr welches howto was is und um schnell die fehlermeldung zu kriegen hab ich eben die command line benuttz
[21:09] <freakyy> also ich machs jetzt nochmal nach diesem howto hier: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Grafikkarten/AMD/fglrx/Manuelle_Treiberinstallation
[21:17] <tessarakt> so, jetzt mal schauen ...
[21:20] <tessarakt> jo, Release-Update läuft
[21:20] <tessarakt> danke nochmal für die Hilfe, k1l
[21:21] <freakyy> k1l: ok also das selbe problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13480438/ hier der komplette vorgang
[21:21] <freakyy> bis aufs runterladen -das hab ich mitm browser gemacht
[21:48] <tessarakt> k1l: das Notebook hatte zum Glück nicht so viele Paketleichen ...
[21:48] <tessarakt> ist auch deutlich neuer ...
[21:48] <k1l> hats geklappt?
[21:49] <tessarakt> ja, läuft gerade
[21:49] <tessarakt> das Netz ist hier etwas lahm
[21:49] <tessarakt> Download dauert noch ca. 2h
[22:32] <freakyy> also mir kann wohl keiner weiter helfen, dann muss ich schlussendlich auf nen update warten hoffentlich fixen die das
[22:40] <tessarakt> yeah, schon 54% runtergeladen
[22:40] <freakyy> yay :D
[22:45] <tessarakt> hmm, ob ich texlive-lang-korean wirklich brauche?
[22:46] <freakyy> ^^
[22:47] <k1l> ich denke nicht :)
[22:48] <tessarakt> ist halt bei texlive-full dabei ...
[22:48] <freakyy> hm bin bissl enttäuscht dass ich mein grafik treiber ned hin kriege ... weiss auch ned wielange ich jetzt warten muss. mein großer pc is 3-4 wochen in reparatur und jetzt kann ich in dieser zeit das spiel das ich spielen will nedmal mit niedrigen grafikeinstellungen spielen
[22:49] <freakyy> gibt es eigentlich eine möglichkeit wie ich meine logitech mx master die zusätzlichen knöpfe und das daumenrad belegen kann?
[22:49] <strohalm> vermutlich, ja
[22:50] <strohalm> guck mal mit xev ob da events rausfallen
[22:58] <freakyy> ja da fallen events raus
[22:58] <strohalm> ok, dann gehts
[22:58] <freakyy> und wie?
[22:59] <freakyy> (:
[22:59] <strohalm> joa hm joa, ka .. ggf über xorgconf lines oder xinput
[22:59] <strohalm> für thinkpats gibts vertikales scrolen z.b. kannst ja da abgucken
[22:59] <freakyy> hm da frag ich mal in #ubuntu morgen nochmal
[23:00] <freakyy> ich gugg mal ich frag in #ubuntu mit welchem programm man das am besten macht .. da sind mehr leute drin da hat vielleicht wer ne ahnung
[23:02] <freakyy> danke
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-uy
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[00:28] * magu42 is away: ~
[01:29] <naudy> buenas noches
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-23-#cloud-init
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[14:00] <usrenmae> Hello. What is the order of cloud-init directives execution? I'm running packer against AWS instances providing it with user-data as cloud-init file, which has "write-files" directives as the last line. I was hoping to only allow stopping the instance once the last directive is done, but it seems like the file is written, but the earliest directives do not manage to finish by the time the "write_files" is done.
[14:01] <usrenmae> So I am left with packages not installed and repos not included in my resulting os image. What's the right way to approach the problem?
[22:36] <manuq> can I have a cloud-config YAML script AND a bash script running both at boot?
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"manuq",
"usrenmae"
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"channel": "#cloud-init"
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-nz
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[04:23] <hads> morning
[04:27] <ibeardslee> heh .. I need to set an alarm to remind myself to go home and stop waiting for the sun to disappear.
[18:06] <ibeardslee> morning
[20:42] <chilts> morning
[23:00] <hads> morning
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"authors": [
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"hads",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-nz"
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-meeting
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[15:01] <chiluk> o/ ??? all alone.
[15:01] <sil2100> o/
[15:01] <chiluk> I have a feeling my chances of reaching quorum are going to be difficult this week.
[15:02] <chiluk> what about xnox, and cyphermox, and the rest of the DMB peeps?
[15:02] * xnox is here
[15:02] <cyphermox> o/
[15:02] <sil2100> cyphermox is around for sure, just talked with him on -devel
[15:02] <sil2100> chiluk: weren't you applying 2 weeks ago? ;)
[15:02] <cyphermox> I pinged infinity already
[15:03] <chiluk> sil2100: I was... but we couldn't get quorum
[15:03] <cyphermox> micahg: are you around after all?
[15:03] <sil2100> Ah, ok
[15:03] <chiluk> so the vote was postponed.
[15:03] <cyphermox> stgraber: poke
[15:03] <sil2100> oh, some ocaml leftovers in NBS
[15:03] <sil2100> That won't look good on my resume
[15:05] <cyphermox> sil2100: it happens, that was nice transition
[15:05] * sil2100 promises to deal with those this week
[15:06] <sil2100> Thanks :)
[15:06] <chiluk> I have a feeling infinity is either asleep, on vacation or both.
[15:06] <cyphermox> oh, that might be the case
[15:06] <chiluk> it's thanksgiving week for us Americans.
[15:06] <cyphermox> yep
[15:06] <chiluk> cyphermox how many do you need for quorum.
[15:06] <cyphermox> 4 people
[15:06] <cyphermox> we're two right now
[15:07] <cyphermox> of course the two most important, impartial, and kind people are around
[15:07] <cyphermox> humble, too ;)
[15:07] <cyphermox> bdmurray: around?
[15:08] <cyphermox> Laney: poke poke.
[15:08] * sil2100 pokes stgraber just in case
[15:09] <cyphermox> I may be able to call stgraber if necessary, but I don't have a way to reach others if not through IRC
[15:10] <chiluk> you guys are killing me.. at this rate, I'll be applying for coredev instead of UCD...
[15:10] <cyphermox> chiluk: hehe
[15:11] <cyphermox> I wish people tried harder to make it to the meetings, but I'm often guilty of forgetting about it too.
[15:11] <chiluk> yeah I was just making a joke.. I was fearful two weeks ago that this would happen due to the holiday here.
[15:12] <sil2100> Isn't Adam in Canada now anyway?
[15:12] <chiluk> doesn't mean he'd be awake.
[15:12] <cyphermox> Stephane and Adam have no excuse, it's not thanksgiving in Canada ;)
[15:12] <sil2100> I thought the turkey-thing was only for the US guys
[15:12] <sil2100> ;)
[15:13] <chiluk> it is but I thought Adam was american by birth.. we bring our holidays with us wherever we go.
[15:14] <cyphermox> stgraber should be around soon
[15:14] <chiluk> including xnox that would make 4.
[15:14] * stgraber waves :)
[15:15] <chiluk> Hey Hey!
[15:15] <sil2100> \o/
[15:15] <cyphermox> just need one more DMB member.
[15:16] <xnox> !dbm-ping
[15:16] <cyphermox> !dmb-ping
[15:17] <chiluk> isn't there some double jeopardy clause in the by-laws such that if an applicant can't be voted on for more than one meeting they are automatically accepted?
[15:17] <chiluk> please please...
[15:17] <cyphermox> chiluk: we can certainly do it by email
[15:17] <Laney> I'm here
[15:17] <Laney> sorry
[15:17] <Laney> !dmb-ping
[15:17] <chiluk> wooHOO!
[15:17] <cyphermox> yay
[15:17] <Laney> full of cold
[15:17] <sil2100> \o/
[15:18] <chiluk> let's get this party started.
[15:18] <chiluk> I know you guys have more important things to do.
[15:18] <cyphermox> micah's turn to chair but he's not around. stgraber can you do it?
[15:19] * xnox is confused if we have all or not.
[15:19] <stgraber> yup
[15:19] <Laney> all what?
[15:19] <cyphermox> xnox: we have quorum
[15:20] <stgraber> #startmeeting DMB meeting
[15:20] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Nov 23 15:20:04 2015 UTC. The chair is stgraber. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[15:20] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[15:20] <cyphermox> 4 DMB members, as I recall
[15:20] <xnox> cyphermox, cool.
[15:21] <stgraber> #topic Review of previous action items
[15:21] <stgraber> Laney to start an onboarding page for new dmb members
[15:21] <stgraber> Laney: has that been done or should we carry this one over?
[15:22] <Laney> I did it
[15:22] <Laney> I mailed a link to the list asking for comments
[15:22] <Laney> didn't get any
[15:22] <cyphermox> can you share the link here for the minutes/
[15:22] * xnox does not recall.... =(
[15:23] <Laney> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/KnowledgeBase
[15:23] * cyphermox searches
[15:23] <stgraber> oh yeah, just found the e-mail
[15:23] <Laney> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 17:52:51 +0100
[15:23] <stgraber> DMB members who didn't consent to fill in feedback to Noskcaj
[15:26] * xnox ducks
[15:26] <stgraber> I think we need to keep this one as I'm not seeing evidence that this happened :)
[15:26] <cyphermox> yes
[15:26] <stgraber> #topic Confirm whether we grant membership for uploaders by default
[15:26] <xnox> last meeting we converged to the following: if one wants membership one should apply as contributing developer, motu, or core-dev.
[15:27] <xnox> per-package(set) uploaders do not assume membership.
[15:27] <Laney> erm
[15:27] <cyphermox> Laney: we had some discussion about this at the last meeting but it seemed like we couldn't quite get to an agreement
[15:27] <Laney> you decided to change the criteria?
[15:27] <xnox> if one wants PPU + membership, one should explicitely apply for PPU+contributing developer.
[15:27] <Laney> oh geez
[15:27] <xnox> Laney, yeah, this is summary of a (new) opinion, some board members had.
[15:28] <xnox> i.e. myself and (micahg?!) can't remember now.
[15:28] <cyphermox> could we perhaps move ahead to voting on this proposition, or decide to amend it?
[15:28] <stgraber> yeah, we can vote but by the sounds of it, it won't pass
[15:29] <cyphermox> which won't pass? ;)
[15:29] <stgraber> we're only 4 around, if we don't get 4 +1s it'll fail
[15:29] <cyphermox> right
[15:29] <xnox> we can vote as is. I will vote -1 on "grant membership for uploaders by default". And say that there is already mechanism for that -> contributing developer.
[15:29] <xnox> i can be convinced that i'm being illogical =)
[15:29] <stgraber> the proposal on the agenda is to by default assume that PPU means membership unless we decide otherwise
[15:29] <cyphermox> well, then it needs to be amended, and we probably should take this to email instead so everyone can bring up their points
[15:29] <xnox> and that e.g. contributing member -> is membership without any upload rights, and that membership is needed for uploading anything.
[15:30] <Laney> It's too much of a burden to assume that people will understand this, and doesn't make sense to make the DMB explicitly make this determination fro every application
[15:30] <Laney> whatever
[15:30] <cyphermox> doesn't it kind of involve sustained contributions at least to even be considered for PPU?
[15:30] <stgraber> I agree with Laney, it's way easier for us to determine when someone shouldn't be getting membership and make it clear then rather than require EVERYONE to request both
[15:31] <cyphermox> in which case Laney's proposition is simple and straightforward
[15:31] <xnox> oh, if we grant it when people are eligble, that makes sense.
[15:32] <xnox> and it's up to us to be diligent, and say "yeah cool you can upload but no membership yet, come back for it" that sounds sensible.
[15:32] <cyphermox> xnox: sounds to me like that is what Laney means :)
[15:32] <xnox> i guess at each PPU grant, we do a second mini-vote whether or not to grant membership too?
[15:32] <Laney> No
[15:32] <xnox> why would we do that, instead of granting contributing developer?
[15:33] <cyphermox> I wouldn't even bother
[15:33] <Laney> You just have the vote in the negative case
[15:33] <Laney> in most cases it is implied
[15:33] <xnox> to PPUs, when PPUs apply, and are eligible for membership?
[15:33] <Laney> it really hardly ever comes up in practie
[15:33] <Laney> practice
[15:33] <Laney> so it's not sensible to put the burden on the normal case
[15:33] <xnox> "This does not happen automatically - they must be added to the ~ubuntu-dev team." -> can we not add people to contributing developer instead?
[15:34] * xnox ponders if we should move on to email.
[15:34] <Laney> ucd isn't in ubuntu-dev
[15:36] <Laney> I'm only happy moving to email if people will actually reply. :)
[15:36] <stgraber> ubuntu-dev is only for Ubuntu members who have upload rights, so being in UCD doesn't get you that
[15:36] <xnox> stgraber, ack.
[15:36] <Laney> it gets you bug control and other teams that UCD doesn't
[15:37] <Laney> because UCD is just membership
[15:37] <xnox> i see.
[15:37] <stgraber> we can also vote for it now and then you can get the rest of the members to vote on the list, may be enough to have this pass
[15:38] <Laney> OK
[15:38] <stgraber> #vote Do we grant Ubuntu membership by default for PPUs (see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2015-August/000815.html)?
[15:38] <meetingology> Please vote on: Do we grant Ubuntu membership by default for PPUs (see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2015-August/000815.html)?
[15:38] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[15:38] <xnox> +1
[15:38] <meetingology> +1 received from xnox
[15:38] <stgraber> +1
[15:38] <meetingology> +1 received from stgraber
[15:38] <cyphermox> +1
[15:38] <meetingology> +1 received from cyphermox
[15:38] <Laney> +1
[15:38] <meetingology> +1 received from Laney
[15:38] <Laney> nice
[15:38] <stgraber> #endvote
[15:38] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Do we grant Ubuntu membership by default for PPUs (see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2015-August/000815.html)?
[15:38] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[15:38] <meetingology> Motion carried
[15:38] <stgraber> there, done :)
[15:39] <stgraber> Laney: is there any documentation we need updating?
[15:39] <Laney> well, it's the status quo, so no
[15:39] <Laney> in theory
[15:39] <xnox> stgraber, i guess XXX needs removal from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/KnowledgeBase under teams to add uploaders to
[15:39] <Laney> ah
[15:39] <Laney> I was just going to say that I should add this somewhere
[15:40] <Laney> OK let me edit that
[15:40] <stgraber> cool
[15:40] <stgraber> #topic Package Set/Per Package Uploader Applications
[15:40] <Laney> that ubuntu-uploaders sentence is utter lies
[15:40] * Laney fixes that too
[15:41] <stgraber> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2015-October/000856.html
[15:42] <stgraber> Laney: ok, so this item is just about adding a new package set for the ubuntu qt stuff and adding a few more packages to the existing qt set?
[15:43] <stgraber> qt5 set today: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/xenial/qt5
[15:43] <Laney> I think so
[15:43] <Laney> because they don't fit the description there
[15:44] <stgraber> ok, should we just vote on this then, seems pretty straightforward to me
[15:44] <Laney> Probably, just want to know what a Qt package is
[15:44] <Laney> anything which build-depends on qt at all?
[15:45] <cyphermox> seems wrong
[15:45] * xnox 'd just update qt5 packageset description to include all qt5* base stuff, irrespective of origin.
[15:45] <cyphermox> plus it probably should be unity8-desktop as a name or something to the effect that it's unity8 things, not necessarily qt
[15:45] <stgraber> proposed description is:
[15:45] <stgraber> Qt packages used by Ubuntu not originating from the
[15:45] <stgraber> upstream Qt project but using Qt private headers
[15:46] <cyphermox> right
[15:46] <stgraber> so not all rdepends of qt, more like tight version rdepends (due to private symbols)
[15:46] <xnox> sounds good. and just stick that as ".. and" into qt5 package set, and update the lot.
[15:46] <stgraber> proposed set of package is:
[15:46] <stgraber> appmenu-qt5 ciborium fcitx-qt5 gsettings-qt maliit-framework oxide-qt
[15:46] <stgraber> qtmir qtmir-gles qtubuntu qtubuntu-gles qtvideo-node ubuntu-ui-toolkit
[15:46] <stgraber> ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles unity8 webbrowser-app
[15:46] <cyphermox> except I can see more people wanting to upload these packages in the future, and things being added that might not be qt5
[15:47] <xnox> existing uploaders know how to upload those, as far as I remember. Or have been co-operating with "private ubuntu qt5" uploads in the past (~kubuntu-dev)
[15:47] <cyphermox> on top of that, all these packages usually go through the CI train, not usually direct uploads
[15:48] <cyphermox> (or, at least most of them, possibly exception being fcitx-qt5 and gsettings-qt
[15:48] * xnox sides at making timo core-dev, and stop adding new qt packagesets or packages, and then timo can be go to person for ci landing of those components ;-)
[15:48] <stgraber> the proposed set name and description don't specifically mention qt5, just says ubuntu specific stuff using private qt symbols, so typically ubuntu sdk and related libs, with unity8 being a special one
[15:49] <cyphermox> stgraber: there's lots of stuff surrounding that current set that are make with go, and so don't have any qt symbols
[15:49] <cyphermox> or at least, that was my understanding
[15:50] <cyphermox> I mostly just don't like the qt/using qt headers being a criteria for a packageset, I guess
[15:50] <sil2100> Mirv wants to try for core-dev, but said he'll do it after I become a core-dev first
[15:50] <sil2100> Soooo... just saying.. you know...
[15:50] <sil2100> ;)
[15:50] <cyphermox> vote or not, and then move on?
[15:50] <xnox> sil2100, i shall not be peer pressured.
[15:51] * Laney watches money slide under the table
[15:51] <sil2100> I'm not implying anything! My intentions are as clear as mountain water
[15:51] * sil2100 goes quiet now
[15:52] <Laney> I'm happy to vote this
[15:52] <stgraber> cyphermox: the static go stuff would never be in that set because if statically built (instead of using cgo), you won't need rebuild/changing when private symbols change in the archive, since it bundles its own copy
[15:52] <stgraber> #vote Create a new ubuntu-qt-packages packageset with description "Qt packages used by Ubuntu not originating from the upstream Qt project but using Qt private headers"
[15:52] <meetingology> Please vote on: Create a new ubuntu-qt-packages packageset with description "Qt packages used by Ubuntu not originating from the upstream Qt project but using Qt private headers"
[15:52] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[15:52] <cyphermox> stgraber: I'm saying by this that it feels to specific
[15:52] <stgraber> +1
[15:52] <meetingology> +1 received from stgraber
[15:52] <Laney> I'd be happy to amend this by mail
[15:52] <Laney> it's not the best
[15:52] <Laney> +1
[15:52] <meetingology> +1 received from Laney
[15:52] <cyphermox> +0. seems to specific to me, but I won't block if everyone agrees already.
[15:52] <meetingology> +0. seems to specific to me, but I won't block if everyone agrees already. received from cyphermox
[15:52] <stgraber> cyphermox: I like too specific, it's easier to make it less specific than more specific later :)
[15:53] <xnox> +1
[15:53] <meetingology> +1 received from xnox
[15:53] <cyphermox> I'd rather fewer random packagesets for random things
[15:53] <stgraber> #endvote
[15:53] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Create a new ubuntu-qt-packages packageset with description "Qt packages used by Ubuntu not originating from the upstream Qt project but using Qt private headers"
[15:53] <meetingology> Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1
[15:53] <meetingology> Motion carried
[15:53] <cyphermox> ^ motion carried
[15:53] <Laney> false
[15:53] <stgraber> yeah, that's wrong
[15:53] <Laney> deferred to email
[15:53] <xnox> true.
[15:53] <cyphermox> no, consider it fine for me tbh
[15:53] <Laney> or next meeting
[15:53] <Laney> then you need to vote +1 :P
[15:54] <cyphermox> did you not read what was next to +0? ;)
[15:54] <xnox> we have quorum, and we only need to have possitive outcome.
[15:54] <cyphermox> let's move on
[15:54] <Laney> ffs
[15:54] <stgraber> we need quorum and 4 +1s to have a motion pass, this wasn't the case here
[15:55] <stgraber> so if cyphermox feels like +1ing instead, we can re-vote, otherwise this is moving to ML to get the remaining votes
[15:55] <cyphermox> arf
[15:55] <cyphermox> sure, let's quickly revote
[15:55] <stgraber> #vote Create a new ubuntu-qt-packages packageset with description "Qt packages used by Ubuntu not originating from the upstream Qt project but using Qt private headers"
[15:55] <meetingology> Please vote on: Create a new ubuntu-qt-packages packageset with description "Qt packages used by Ubuntu not originating from the upstream Qt project but using Qt private headers"
[15:55] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[15:55] <stgraber> +1
[15:55] <meetingology> +1 received from stgraber
[15:55] <cyphermox> +1
[15:55] <meetingology> +1 received from cyphermox
[15:55] <xnox> +1
[15:55] <meetingology> +1 received from xnox
[15:55] <Laney> +1
[15:55] <meetingology> +1 received from Laney
[15:56] <Laney> haha
[15:56] <stgraber> #endvote
[15:56] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Create a new ubuntu-qt-packages packageset with description "Qt packages used by Ubuntu not originating from the upstream Qt project but using Qt private headers"
[15:56] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[15:56] <meetingology> Motion carried
[15:56] <Laney> thanks!
[15:56] <stgraber> there we go :)
[15:56] <cyphermox> thar.
[15:56] <stgraber> #action stgraber to implement changes listed in https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2015-October/000856.html
[15:56] <meetingology> ACTION: stgraber to implement changes listed in https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2015-October/000856.html
[15:56] <stgraber> #topic Ubuntu Contributing Developer Applications
[15:56] <stgraber> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/chiluk
[15:56] <stgraber> chiluk: still around?
[15:57] <chiluk> yes..
[15:57] <stgraber> can you give us a quick intro on who you are and what you've been doing?
[15:57] <cyphermox> I know chiluk, he definitely did not bribe me to +1.
[15:57] <chiluk> hah.
[15:57] <xnox> I know chiluk, he definitely did not bribe me to +1.
[15:57] <chiluk> Alright, well I work for Canonical on sustaining old releases.
[15:58] <chiluk> mostly for paying customers, but I do my best to get out on public launchpad as often as I can.
[15:58] <chiluk> as such my work is very scatter-brained and unfocussed.
[15:58] <chiluk> I'm not requesting PPU for that reason.
[15:58] <stgraber> sounds like everyone's ready to vote already so let's do it then :)
[15:59] <chiluk> there are very few packages that I will ever touch twice.
[15:59] <chiluk> hah.
[15:59] <stgraber> #startvote UCD for chiluk
[15:59] <chiluk> alright guys.
[15:59] <stgraber> #vote UCD for chiluk
[15:59] <meetingology> Please vote on: UCD for chiluk
[15:59] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[15:59] <stgraber> +1
[15:59] <meetingology> +1 received from stgraber
[15:59] <cyphermox> +1
[15:59] <meetingology> +1 received from cyphermox
[15:59] <Laney> +!
[15:59] <Laney> 1!!
[15:59] <Laney> +1
[15:59] <meetingology> +1 received from Laney
[15:59] <xnox> +1
[15:59] <meetingology> +1 received from xnox
[15:59] <Laney> PLUS BANG
[15:59] <chiluk> someone should -1 for infinity
[15:59] <stgraber> #endvote
[15:59] <meetingology> Voting ended on: UCD for chiluk
[15:59] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[15:59] <meetingology> Motion carried
[15:59] <sil2100> Man, I should have brought screwdrivers with me to the sprint too...
[15:59] <chiluk> sil2100: why when, I live in town.
[16:00] <cyphermox> chiluk: my only request would be for you to fix https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/coreutils/8.21-1ubuntu5.2
[16:00] <stgraber> oh, is that how you bribed cyphermox? :)
[16:00] <chiluk> cyphermox, yeah I'm on that.
[16:00] <chiluk> cyphermox, the test never ran before my upload.
[16:00] <cyphermox> stgraber: nah, there was no alcohol, just tools.
[16:00] <chiluk> now it's being run and failing
[16:00] <xnox> chiluk, fyi have you seen https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/coreutils/8.21-1ubuntu5.2 ? =)
[16:00] <chiluk> although it only fails ont eh buildds.
[16:01] <chiluk> yeah I've been looking into it.
[16:01] <xnox> rightyoh.
[16:01] <chiluk> the test that fails was never getting run before because df couldn't read the mount table, and would thus skip the test.
[16:01] <stgraber> #topic Ubuntu Core Developer application for Łukasz Zemczak
[16:01] <chiluk> so it works better.
[16:01] <xnox> chiluk, "Kernel version: Linux lgw01-46 3.19.0-33-generic #38~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Nov 6 18:17:28 UTC 2015 x86_64" =)
[16:01] <stgraber> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LukaszZemczak/CoreDeveloperApplication
[16:01] <sil2100> o/
[16:01] <stgraber> good, you're still around :)
[16:02] * chiluk goes to figure out how to get ubuntu business cards for conferences.
[16:02] <stgraber> sil2100: can you introduce yourself, what you're working on and why you'd like to become a core developer?
[16:02] <sil2100> Sure!
[16:03] <sil2100> I'm Łukasz, working for Canonical for quite a while, currently the semi release-manager for Ubuntu Touch, one of the co-maintainers of the infameous CI Train and current co-maintainer of system-image
[16:03] <sil2100> I'm also a MOTU since over a year
[16:04] <sil2100> Been doing two +1 maintenance sessions, with the most recent one a bit more fruitful than the first
[16:05] <sil2100> I have worked a bit more on main packages recently and decided to re-apply - becoming a core-dev would make my development work much easier, not only from the CI Train side, but also during my patch-pilot and +1 maintenance sessions
[16:06] <sil2100> I'm also the maintainer of the ubuntu-touch seeds and even though the package itself is in universe, the owner of the branches is ubuntu-core-dev, so well ;) I would like to stop bothering people all the time
[16:07] <sil2100> And I think that's basically it, becoming a core-dev is my long-standing goal
[16:08] <Laney> so this isn't your first application
[16:08] <Laney> what's changed since last time? :)
[16:08] <sil2100> No, last time I applied I basically didn't have too much main experience as during all my piloting sessions and archive work I was concentrating on universe, the place where I had power
[16:08] <Mirv> (thanks for the Qt PPU additions. with those I'd manage through Qt 5.5 before applying for core-dev)
[16:09] <sil2100> So since that time I started actually working on main packages as advised by xnox, helping out in the wily FTBFS from the test-rebuilds right before release
[16:09] * xnox notices abi transitions work from sil as well
[16:09] <sil2100> Then I wanted to help out and resolve the ocaml transition, but sadly most of the packages there were in universe
[16:10] <sil2100> And just now noticed that I have some leftovers in NBS from the transition, ouch! But resolving those now inbetween things
[16:10] <xnox> sil2100, which tools did you use to assist you with ocaml transition?
[16:11] <sil2100> xnox: reverse-depends, a xenial-proposed chroot, I used chdist for checking installability on different platforms (at first I used the porterboxes, but chdist was faster)
[16:11] <xnox> sil2100, any websites at all? e.g. launchpad...?
[16:11] <sil2100> I created a few scripts that were helping me in the no-change rebuilds, checking for installability problems first and then outputting dependencies etc.
[16:12] <sil2100> xnox: used launchpad too, but my scripts were fetching the most required information using LP API
[16:12] <sil2100> Like which archs FTBFS, what binaries are provided by the packages
[16:13] <sil2100> At first I was checking those manually through launchpad, but seeing ~100 packages in the transition, I got tired and wrote some stupid-helpers
[16:13] <xnox> sil2100, have you used transition tracker at all?
[16:13] <sil2100> Of course
[16:14] <xnox> cool.
[16:14] <sil2100> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/ocaml.html
[16:14] <sil2100> That was the main page I was using for the transition
[16:14] <sil2100> (e.g. which packages needed my attention)
[16:17] <sil2100> I see that something causes now ocaml to have installability issues, will look at that later
[16:17] <Laney> any more?
[16:19] <stgraber> #vote Ubuntu Core Developer membership for sil2100
[16:19] <meetingology> Please vote on: Ubuntu Core Developer membership for sil2100
[16:19] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[16:21] <xnox> +1
[16:21] <meetingology> +1 received from xnox
[16:21] <cyphermox> +1
[16:21] <meetingology> +1 received from cyphermox
[16:21] <Laney> +1
[16:21] <meetingology> +1 received from Laney
[16:21] <stgraber> +1
[16:21] <meetingology> +1 received from stgraber
[16:21] <stgraber> #endvote
[16:21] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Ubuntu Core Developer membership for sil2100
[16:21] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[16:21] <meetingology> Motion carried
[16:21] <sil2100> \o/ Thank you!
[16:22] <Na3iL> congrats sil2100 :)
[16:22] <Mirv> congrats sil2100!
[16:22] <cyphermox> thanks sil2100
[16:23] <cyphermox> I hope that doesn't mean I hear less from you for citrain silo reviews ;)
[16:23] <sil2100> hah ;)
[16:24] <sil2100> Interesting, all ocaml binaries look installable here, maybe I'll have to dig a bit deeper
[16:24] * xnox /o\ what have we done. anway, i shall have sil2100 on speed dial for any ci train issues =)
[16:24] <sil2100> But I noticed that the ben is not to be trusted in 100%
[16:25] <stgraber> #topic Select a chair for the next meeting (following alphabetical order of first names)
[16:25] <sil2100> No worries! I'll get bad karma if I publish too many bad packages through the train
[16:25] <stgraber> that will be micahg, I'll move my name last in the list
[16:25] * sil2100 only likes good karma
[16:25] <stgraber> #topic AOB
[16:25] <stgraber> anything?
[16:26] <cyphermox> I don't know
[16:26] <stgraber> I've already done the packageset changes we agreed on, added chiluk to UCD and sil2100 to core-dev, so we should be good action-wise.
[16:26] <sil2100> stgraber: thanks!
[16:26] <cyphermox> I responded to Timo by email to say the pkgset was done
[16:26] <stgraber> thanks!
[16:27] <chiluk> thanks stgraber, cyphermox, Laney, xnox
[16:27] <cyphermox> chiluk: looking forward to sponsoring requests from you to eventually +1 a core-dev application
[16:28] <chiluk> that's the goal.
[16:28] <stgraber> agenda updated too
[16:29] <Laney> thanks
[16:29] <stgraber> and replied to the applications saying they've been approved and Cced the news-team
[16:29] <stgraber> so I think we're all done
[16:29] <stgraber> #endmeeting
[16:29] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Nov 23 16:29:50 2015 UTC.
[16:29] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-11-23-15.20.moin.txt
[16:32] <tyhicks> hello
[16:32] <jjohansen> \o
[16:32] <tyhicks> #startmeeting
[16:32] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Nov 23 16:32:47 2015 UTC. The chair is tyhicks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:32] <tyhicks> The meeting agenda can be found at:
[16:32] <tyhicks> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting
[16:32] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Announcements
[16:33] <tyhicks> Andrew Starr-Bochicchio (asomething) provided debdiffs for trusty-wily for libpng (LP: #1516592)
[16:33] <tyhicks> Bas Couwenberg (sebastic) provided debdiffs for trusty-vivid for freexl (LP: #1516257)
[16:33] <tyhicks> Thank you for your assistance in keeping Ubuntu users secure! :)
[16:33] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report
[16:33] <tyhicks> mdeslaur: you're up
[16:34] <mdeslaur> I'm on bug triage this week
[16:35] <mdeslaur> I'm testing some icedtea-web updates, and I have an embargoed update to test
[16:35] <mdeslaur> after that, I'll be going down the list, as usual
[16:35] <mdeslaur> that's it
[16:35] <mdeslaur> sbeattie: you're up
[16:35] <sbeattie> I'm on cve triage this week
[16:36] <sbeattie> I'm currently digging in to a couple of build failures I hit after building the vast majority of main with gcc-pie
[16:36] <sbeattie> I also have openjdk-7 packages to test
[16:36] <sbeattie> and that will probably consume my short week this week (US thanksgiving)
[16:37] <sbeattie> tyhicks: you're up
[16:37] <tyhicks> I need to restart the mapplauncherd review (preempted last week by another code review)
[16:37] <tyhicks> I want to start working on AppArmor policy loads inside of a user namespace
[16:38] <tyhicks> and I need to do some snappy sprint prep
[16:38] <tyhicks> short week for me (US holiday + I'm off Wed)
[16:38] <tyhicks> jjohansen: you're up
[16:38] <jjohansen> its a short week for me too due to the thanksgiving holiday, I need to finish up with bug 1446906, and send out a couple more patches for the apparmor kernel SRU for review, and the get back to working on stacking
[16:39] <jjohansen> thats it for /me sarnold you're up
[16:40] <sarnold> I'm on community this week; short week, thanksgiving; I'm finishing the libmicrohttp* MIR, starting DPDK, and reviewing some of the apparmor kernel patches that I assume are headed my way
[16:40] <sarnold> that's it for me, chrisccoulson?
[16:41] <chrisccoulson> I've got a chromium update to sponsor this week, I'm also still waiting for a thunderbird release
[16:41] <chrisccoulson> I shall be preparing an Oxide release for next week as well
[16:41] <chrisccoulson> In addition to that, I've got quite a lot of reviews to get through. I've just done one
[16:42] <chrisccoulson> I'm currently trying to get the camera working in the browser - it's just crashing atm, but I hope to have that done this week
[16:42] <chrisccoulson> Then I plan to work on what we discussed at the sprint for bug 1447345
[16:42] <chrisccoulson> I think that's it
[16:42] <tyhicks> busy week :)
[16:42] <chrisccoulson> (no short week for me)
[16:43] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Highlighted packages
[16:43] <tyhicks> The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.
[16:43] <tyhicks> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.
[16:43] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/rope.html
[16:43] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/tntnet.html
[16:43] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/ldns.html
[16:43] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/libfpdi-php.html
[16:43] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/snack.html
[16:43] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions
[16:44] <tyhicks> Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?
[16:46] <tyhicks> mdeslaur, sbeattie, jjohansen, sarnold, ChrisCoulson: Thanks!
[16:46] <tyhicks> #endmeeting
[16:46] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Nov 23 16:46:18 2015 UTC.
[16:46] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-11-23-16.32.moin.txt
[16:46] <sbeattie> tyhicks: thanks!
[16:46] <sarnold> thanks tyhicks!
[16:46] <mdeslaur> thanks tyhicks
[16:46] <jjohansen> thanks tyhicks
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[03:39] <nitish> can I make terminal transparent in gnome-shell 3.10.4?
[12:49] <Forage> good afternoon
[12:51] <Forage> the live cd nightly builds of at least November 17 until now suffer from being unable to login. It shows a broken login screen instead of booting into GNOME Shell right away. Supplying the username "ubuntu" with no password does not allow me to login. Is there any other way?
[14:31] <LinDol> hi all
[17:08] <mitch> Hi all - I just recently installed Ubuntu Gnome 15.10 on my Dell XPS 8700 with 4th Gen i7 and Nvidia GTX 645. I seem to be having quite a few issues, so far the list includes I am unable to open system settings, either through command line by running gnome-control-center (it just hangs and does nothing) nor by going to the normal system menu's. Also, I am unable to restart my PC by command line or by GUI. When i enter init 6 as
[17:08] <mitch> root it tries toreboot the PC but never actually reboots. Goes to a black screen and does nothing until I hard shut it down.
[17:09] <mitch> I get several errors when I try opening system settings through command line:
[17:09] <mitch> mitch@mitch-XPS-8700:~$ sudo gnome-control-center
[17:09] <mitch> [sudo] password for mitch:
[17:09] <mitch> ** (gnome-control-center.real:2416): WARNING **: Ignoring launcher gufw (missing desktop file)
[17:09] <mitch> ** (gnome-control-center.real:2416): WARNING **: Ignoring launcher landscape-client-settings (missing desktop file)
[17:09] <mitch> ** (gnome-control-center.real:2416): WARNING **: Ignoring launcher language-selector (missing desktop file)
[17:09] <mitch> ** (gnome-control-center.real:2416): WARNING **: Ignoring launcher ubuntuone-installer (missing desktop file)
[17:11] <mitch> I opened a thread on ubuntuforums over 24 hours ago but no one has replied yet so thought I'd try on here for some help/tips.
[17:15] <cap0> mitch: those aren't serious. Just missing desktop files. it's probably just ignoring things that can be optionally installed
[17:18] <mitch> Ok, how do I get it to open System Settings then? Also, any tips on trying to troubleshoot the issue of not being able to reboot?
[17:23] <cap0> can you open gnome-control-center without sudo?
[17:23] <mitch> Nope, it just does this:
[17:23] <cap0> as for the shutdown issue, I'm afraid I can't be off any assistance
[17:24] <mitch> mitch@mitch-XPS-8700:~$ gnome-control-center
[17:24] <mitch> Failed to register: Timeout was reached
[21:23] <hans109h> I'm trying to find more information on gnome-system-log, specifically why some logs are expandable and some are not, however the documentation is very lacking.
[21:25] <darkxst> hans109h, you should be using gnome-logs these days
[21:25] <darkxst> gnome-system-log is old, and likely doesnt support journal
[21:26] <hans109h> darkxst, thanks for that. I had never heard of gnome-logs. I wonder why it didn't install with Ubuntu
[21:27] <hans109h> Wow. Much nicer already!
[21:30] <darkxst> hans109h, apparently I forget to ever seed it
[21:31] <hans109h> Actually, now that I'm looking it it, gnome-logs is only for journal, so I'm right back where I started. When I said expanded I meant that for certain logs gnome-system-log will let you look at certain days and I think it is based on log rotation.
[21:32] <darkxst> hans109h, the journal contains everything, however by default its not persistant, so only has current boot
[21:33] <darkxst> hans109h, see /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian.gz
[21:34] <hans109h> right, What I was trying to do was to view an apache access log by day.
[21:36] <darkxst> maybe apache doesnt use rsyslog
[21:38] <hans109h> I can't remember.
[21:49] <darkxst> mitch try run `gnome-control-center -v` that should provide more info
[21:49] <hans109h> looks like I'll have to explore mod_journald
[21:50] <darkxst> mitch, there is a known issue with logout currently affecting some users, not sure if that affects reboots also
[21:51] <darkxst> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758112
[21:52] <darkxst> except that shouldnt effect 15.10
[22:55] <mitch> darkxst I tried gnome-control-center -v just now and it does the exact same thing as when I tried it without -v flag.
[22:55] <mitch> mitch@mitch-XPS-8700:~$ gnome-control-center -v
[22:55] <mitch> Failed to register: Timeout was reached
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-x
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[00:37] <mamarley> wgrant: When you get a chance, could you please increase the size of ppa:mamarley/staging? I am uploading a bunch of packages and I am about to hit the limit.
[00:49] <wgrant> mamarley: Done.
[00:49] <mamarley> Thank you! :)
[00:49] <wgrant> np
[11:05] <mamarley> tseliot: Is there a reason why the nvidia drivers haven't been registering themselves as an alternative for EGL? I got an email from someone complaining about that yesterday.
[11:11] <tseliot> mamarley: I didn't use to distribute the EGL libraries because of a potential conflict in mesa. Then things were fixed, I added the libraries but, apparently, I forgot to add an alternative for it
[11:20] <ara> tseliot, ping
[11:21] <tseliot> ara: pong
[11:48] <mamarley> tseliot: Cool, well I have uploaded new versions of everything from 340 to 358 with an alternative for EGL. In my testing, it works fine (es2_info and es2gears both run) on an 8600m GT, a NVS 5400m, and a GTX 970.
[11:49] <mamarley> (To my staging PPA, that is.)
[11:49] <mamarley> ricotz: ^You might be interested too.
[11:53] <tseliot> mamarley: have you added the alternative yourself?
[11:53] <mamarley> tseliot: I put it in the postinst and prerm scripts with the other alternatives.
[11:58] <tseliot> mamarley: can you point me again to your staging PPA, please?
[11:59] <mamarley> tseliot: https://launchpad.net/~mamarley/+archive/ubuntu/staging
[12:00] <tseliot> mamarley: thanks
[12:15] <mamarley> No problem
[12:29] <ricotz> mamarley, tseliot, noted
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-server
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[07:10] <eman_no1> Does anyone know if there is an updated PPA for HSTR/Server 15.10?
[07:25] <dustin_> I'm trying to update a production server that is running an EOL version of ubuntu 14.10. I keep getting errors regarding the mirrors. Is there an easy way to upgrade to the lts version?
[07:33] <lifeless> dustin_: theres a copy of all the old releases you can use
[07:33] <lifeless> dustin_: you need to update your sources.lists files to point at them
[07:34] <hateball> !eolupgrade | dustin_
[07:35] <dustin_> My server is on digital ocean. I have read through the EOLUpgrades link and am trying that now. I'm about to just spin up another server and re-deploy. This is too difficult for this time of night.
[07:36] <dustin_> lifeless : how do I find the codename of the dist that is on my server?
[07:38] <bradm> dustin_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[08:50] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:48] <Yossarianuk> hi - how to I stop 'ALLOWED' apparmor rules from writing to the logs?
[09:48] <Yossarianuk> e.g -> im getting lots of '[44955.878729] type=1400 audit(1448269350.768:220): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="/usr/sbin/sssd" name="/var/lib/sss/pubconf/krb5.include.d/domain_realm_ipa_xxxxx_co_uk" pid=8515 comm="ldap_child" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=0 ouid=0' - can I modify the apparmor rules to not write to the file ?
[11:42] <jjohansen> Yossarianuk: set your syslog filter to through out the messages if you don't want them in your logs
[11:57] <Yossarianuk> jjohansen: cheers - wasn't sure if the filtering could be done via apparmor rules..
[14:28] <keyf> Is there a way to increase entropy generation on ubuntu? I'm trying to read a few kb from /dev/random and its been 30 minutes already
[14:28] <keyf> banging on the keyboard to no avail
[14:51] <hateball> they left before they could learn about /dev/urandom
[14:53] <jpds> hateball: That's insecure :-O
[14:53] <jrwren> lol
[14:53] <jrwren> 'cept its not.
[14:53] <hateball> :\
[14:53] <jrwren> http://www.2uo.de/myths-about-urandom/
[14:54] <jpds> jrwren: sudo apt-get install rng-tools
[14:55] <jpds> jrwren: And you're /dev/random will hardly ever block
[14:55] <patdk-wk> it's not, anymore, insecure
[14:55] <jrwren> jpds: nice.
[14:55] <patdk-wk> rng-tools broke for me, on upgrade to 14.04
[15:22] <Xat`> hi guys
[15:22] <Xat`> I'm using 15.04 and I installed xen-hypervisor. I'm able to select "Xen hypervisor" entry at grub screen, but it crashes after "LOADING DOMAIN 0", then reboot
[15:29] <smb> Xat`, That is not really much information to work with. One thing which could cause something like this would be that you try to boot in UEFI mode. That is not working that well and you may be more successful when using backwards compatible BIOS mode (whatever that is called)
[15:41] <Xat`> smb: I'm using standard BIOS
[15:41] <Xat`> (old)
[15:44] <Xat`> I followed this link : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen
[15:44] <Xat`> and everything works well with 14.04
[15:50] <smb> Xat`, Maybe try to install xen-system-amd64 instead of xen-hypervisor-amd64 if that gets you some xen-utils that is the problem
[16:00] <Xat`> smb: I'll try
[16:04] <Xat`> smb: same behavior
[16:12] <smb> Xat`, hard to say then what is wrong. Maybe adding "loglvl=all guest_loglvl=all" to GRUB_CMDLINE_XEN_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub.d/xen.cfg, then run update-grub and then reboot shows something usable. But if it quickly reboots it might be hard to read anything before its gone
[18:48] <T3DY> Is there a command to setup automatic backups to another backup server? / Whats the best way?
[18:48] <thebwt> What kind of backups?
[18:49] <lordievader> T3DY: I use dirvish for that.
[18:49] <T3DY> for the whole server I guess
[18:49] <T3DY> lordievader Ill check that out, thanks
[19:01] <halcyforn> hello. i need antivirus for server. is something good what can scan all files what users upload on server, i need detect and kill all windows viruses malwares troyans etc.
[19:02] <sarnold> halcyforn: i'm afraid clamav is probably your best bet
[19:02] <lordievader> There is clamav.
[19:02] <tarpman> halcyforn: there's no such thing as a "good" antivirus, but clamav is probably what you want
[19:02] <lordievader> !info clamav
[19:04] <halcyforn> ok i hear some people say they have laptop and they dont need antivirus they only send files to server what sit on ubuntu. thats why i want add something what detect and clear this files what people send to server. this clamav detect malwares or not?
[19:05] <tarpman> it tries.
[19:05] <halcyforn> hmmm or try eset for linux
[19:07] <quantic> halcyforn: And what OS are they running on their laptops?
[19:07] <halcyforn> windows 7
[19:07] <RoyK> T3DY: I use bareos
[19:08] <quantic> halcyforn: aaand they say they don't need antivirus.
[19:08] <halcyforn> yes
[19:08] <quantic> halcyforn: I'm waiting for the absurdity of that statement to sink in.
[19:08] <halcyforn> or they dont need because kaspersky slow down computer :D
[19:08] <sarnold> I'm not surprised they don't -want- antivirus, it usually makes computers miserable slow etc
[19:09] <quantic> want vs need.
[19:09] <sarnold> and it's a constant stream of attempts to upsell people on more securityware
[19:09] <tarpman> halcyforn: force windows defender on them all with group policy, job done?
[19:10] <sarnold> the best one out there was microsoft's security essentials. no crap, no upsells, just a bare-bones AV. it was great. they killed it.
[19:10] <quantic> halcyforn: yeah, your problem is not the server. your problem is endpoint security.
[19:10] <halcyforn> maybe work but when i see what they install i want secure server and people what use files on this server.
[19:10] <sarnold> AV on the ubuntu system still makes some sense, since the clients can be bypassed or not have sufficient definitions, etc..
[19:11] <quantic> sarnold: I'm gonna bet that even a freeware Windows AV product is going to catch more than clamav.
[19:11] <halcyforn> kaspewrsky dont detect malwares this is bought for company antyvirus. this people use downloaders form sites
[19:11] <halcyforn> thats why i want detct some shit on server
[19:12] <sarnold> quantic: yeah, but people turn things off, or they ignore the "update virus definitions?" dialog boxes, etc.
[19:13] <quantic> sarnold: Avast business, push via policy console. Free.
[19:13] <quantic> Decently performant, good detection rates, and you can lock down endpoint configuration.
[19:13] <halcyforn> avast hmm on older machines can make nice slow down
[19:14] <halcyforn> like kaspersky
[19:14] <sarnold> halcyforn: there's no way around that.
[19:14] <sarnold> halcyforn: the trick is to find one without a crappy UI that makes things worse than they need to be :)
[19:14] <quantic> halcyforn: Do you want a fast solution that doesn't actually catch anything, or do you care about security as well?
[19:16] <halcyforn> i care for security and i care for people what have antiviruses on their machines but if they send infected files to server kaspersky dont detect malwares and some shit like troyan downlaoder when they download infected files from server. thats why i think about something what can detect this shit on server.
[19:16] <quantic> i understand what you're going for, but you're running around with unprotected endpoints, and think that installing clamav or something on the server is going to do the trick.
[19:16] <halcyforn> this is not a perfect solution but add some security
[19:17] <quantic> halcyforn: see also: layered defense.
[19:17] <k2gremlin> Hey all, kind of a unique situation here. Got 2 VM's. First one is my WAN/LAN firewall Cent OS. Second is my GNS3 Debian build. I noticed that all of my traffic is appearing on both VM's. Lan traffic should only go out the Firewall server. Why is my GNS3 server also seeing the SAME traffic?
[19:18] <quantic> k2gremlin: what hypervisor are you using, and are they on the same logical network segment?
[19:18] <k2gremlin> quantic, using ESXi and yea they are on the same vswitch
[19:18] <quantic> k2gremlin: same host?
[19:18] <k2gremlin> nope
[19:18] <k2gremlin> 2 different VM's
[19:18] <quantic> k2gremlin: yyyeah. I said host. :P
[19:18] <k2gremlin> Errr same physical box yes
[19:19] <k2gremlin> lol
[19:19] <quantic> k2gremlin: I think that VMs on the same host share the PHY layer. Both VMs are going to see traffic on the wire.
[19:19] <quantic> k2gremlin: but, uh, double check that.
[19:20] <k2gremlin> It makes sense that them being on same vSwitch would cause this.. but same host??
[19:20] <k2gremlin> Ill split up the vSwitch :)
[19:20] <quantic> k2gremlin: Um, think about that for a second.
[19:21] <zingz0r> hi
[19:21] <k2gremlin> well, the other vSwitch would be on a seperate VLAN.
[19:21] <k2gremlin> traffic should not cross vlans
[19:21] <quantic> k2gremlin: Being on the same vSwitch would NOT cause this.
[19:21] <zingz0r> can you help me understand what is this mean: Failed to start user service: Unknown unit: [email protected]
[19:21] <quantic> k2gremlin: But the same host certainly could, as it's all the same physical hardware.
[19:21] <zingz0r> it'sw in dmesg
[19:22] <k2gremlin> quantic, let say I have a router and switch hooked together. I have 3 vlans on the router trunked to the switch. However, on the switch I have 3 seperate access ports. Traffic doesnt cross vlans there..?
[19:22] <k2gremlin> even though using same physical
[19:22] <k2gremlin> :)
[19:23] <quantic> k2gremlin: But you have two VMs on the same host on the same vSwitch on the same VLAN. They're sharing everything except MAC addresses.
[19:23] <quantic> k2gremlin: So, yeah, they're gonna see everything on the wire together.
[19:23] <quantic> k2gremlin: New VLAN and vSwitch would fix it, but then you've got to adjust routes.
[19:23] <k2gremlin> Yea thats why I said if I put the GNS3 on a seperate vSwitch (seperate NIC) should resolve the issue
[19:24] <k2gremlin> Yep yep :) Ill have to add another interface to my Cent box, put that on the same vswitch as the GNS and route it
[19:25] <k2gremlin> Now, my question is, since I only need to talk between the cent box and the gns box, do I need to have a cable physically connected to the un-used NIC on my server?
[20:00] <requiest> hi all
[20:23] <thebwt> Is there a way to simply fetch the release codename via cat'n a file or something? I'm writing some docs and have to assume the reader doesn't just know 14.04 means trusty.
[20:24] <tarpman> thebwt: lsb_release -cs
[20:24] <thebwt> tarpman: BOOM! thanks!
[20:34] <Ripmind> Does anyone know a good UPnP server for ubuntu?
[20:40] <quantic> Ripmind: I use miniupnpd
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-ci-eng
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[03:50] <robru> ugh
[03:52] <robru> jamesh: I'm here, let me dig into this
[03:53] <jamesh> robru: if it helps, the previous build in the silo I hadn't added anything to debian/changelog
[03:53] <jamesh> with this rebuild, I did (I had added some API, so wanted to bump the version number)
[03:53] <robru> jamesh: I made some train changes recently that probably broke it, just investigating
[03:55] <jamesh> it looks like it has uploaded the Xenial source package to the silo, but not the Vivid one
[03:56] <robru> jamesh: yeah the vivid half of dual silos is being a bit weird the last couple days
[03:56] <robru> jamesh: it also didn't build anything for vivid
[03:59] <jamesh> robru: thanks for looking into this so quickly
[03:59] <robru> jamesh: you're welcome!
[04:00] <robru> jamesh: huh well that's strange, I just retried it with debug logging on and it looks like it's working now (it didn't create the vivid copy before but it did now... let's see if it builds)
[04:10] <robru> jamesh: huh well it totally worked.
[04:18] <jamesh> yep. Looks like each package has successfully finished building on some architectures.
[06:11] <robru> please ping me if anything explodes, i should be around for a few more hours
[07:03] <robru> tvoss: you don't need to assign after changing mps anymore
[07:03] <tvoss> robru, ah, cool
[09:36] <popey> davmor2, setting that task to qa failed and will leave it for a bit, and then flip it back a bit later
[09:57] <robru> tvoss: sorry about that, train bug. trying again: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-047-1-build/76/console
[09:57] <robru> Mirv: sil2100 ^^ hmm it's happening again
[09:58] <robru> second try seems to work. very strange
[10:05] <Mirv> hmm
[10:07] <morphis> sil2100, Mirv, robru: any time to merge https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/522 ?
[10:08] <robru> morphis: needs a core dev to publish
[10:08] <morphis> ah, right
[10:08] <morphis> let me ping one
[10:11] <morphis> robru: btw. if I get upload rights for a single package to the archive can I then upload to a silo for that package too?
[10:16] <robru> morphis: eh, no, only ci-train-ppa-service (aka trainguards) and core dev can upload to silos.
[10:17] <morphis> ok
[10:17] <robru> morphis: "upload to silos" is unfortunately a feature of launchpad rather than a feature of the train so not much I can do about that
[10:17] <morphis> robru: before I file a bug about that, basically I had a active discussion with cyphermox about this on friday
[10:18] <morphis> the outcome was: is it possible that we do MP based landings with citrain/silos which doesn't touch the changelog but take it as it is in the MP?
[10:18] <robru> morphis: if you write your own debian/changelog the train will not touch it
[10:19] <morphis> robru: ah, so that already works, interesting
[10:19] <morphis> robru: it will also not modify the version number?
[10:19] <robru> morphis: or at least that was once the case, it's possible that regressed, I don't think that bit of code is well tested.
[10:19] <robru> morphis: no it will always mangle the version number even if you write your own changelog entry.
[10:19] <robru> morphis: there's a different way to stop it mangling the version number
[10:20] <morphis> which one?
[10:20] <sil2100> There was a flag in debian/control in the past that made the train not mangle the version
[10:20] <sil2100> robru: is it still supported?
[10:21] <robru> morphis: in debian/control you have to do 'X-Auto-Uploader: no-rewrite-version'
[10:21] <robru> morphis: but I don't really recommend using that, it's more hassle than it's worth. if you let the train generate the number you can rebuild more easily. using that means you have to push a new commit for every rebuild you want to do
[10:21] <sil2100> Ok, so it's still supported, yey
[10:22] <morphis> robru: the background for this is that I really would like to do MP based landings for bluez
[10:22] <morphis> but cyphermox (and other core devs) don't want the mangled version numbers in the archvie
[10:22] <morphis> which makes sense
[10:22] <robru> morphis: MPs typically only work for projects that we are the upstream for.
[10:22] <morphis> as bluez isn't our upstream
[10:23] <morphis> robru: I know, but what if we take the idea a bit further as this is really something which improves our quality and makes reviewing a lot easier
[10:23] <robru> morphis: "a bit further"? what else do you need? train does support not mangling the version
[10:24] <morphis> robru: yes, I just meant taking it a bit further than only using it to land canonical upstream through MPs
[10:24] <robru> morphis: to do an MP based merge you need to have the packaging inlined in the branch
[10:24] <robru> morphis: could be a bit tricky as currently some security-sensitive code makes the assumption that MPs=canonical so that would need to be tweaked if we started doing MPs for third party stuff
[10:25] <morphis> robru: generally landing through MPs for bluez works fine
[10:25] <robru> morphis: also train is really sensitive to the packaging being just so, easy when we're upstream, harder for rando packages
[10:25] <morphis> we did the last landing this way
[10:25] <morphis> robru: I wouldn't recommend this for all packages or the general way of doing landings
[10:26] <robru> morphis: right well I'm open to it, feel free to file a bug if you have specific problems
[10:26] <morphis> in my particular case I want a quality process which enables us to do dual-landings for bluez where all sides (desktop, touch, ..) can comment/review the landing and say yes or no
[10:26] <morphis> robru: let me try the field in debian/control
[10:29] <robru> morphis: yeah MPs are obviously way more transparent than manual source uploads.
[10:29] <morphis> robru: exactly
[10:37] <robru> alright, nearing 3AM, night folks ;-)
[10:56] <tvoss> robru, sil2100 mind having a look here: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/227352402/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-ppc64el.trust-store_2.0.0%2B16.04.20151123.1-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[10:56] <tvoss> ?
[10:56] <sil2100> tvoss: looking
[10:58] <sil2100> tvoss: hmm... looks like some issue with mesa-common-dev in ppc64el
[10:58] <tvoss> sil2100, yup
[10:59] <sil2100> dpkg-deb (subprocess): decompressing archive member: lzma error: compressed data is corrupt
[10:59] <sil2100> WTH
[10:59] <sil2100> Let me check if it's corrupt here as well
[11:01] <sil2100> tvoss: archive looks fine here, let's try re-building, maybe it was just some random corruption on the machine
[11:01] <sil2100> tvoss: where was that build from?
[11:01] <tvoss> sil2100, silo 21
[11:01] <tvoss> sil2100, kicked rebuild
[11:02] <sil2100> I see it built successfully, as I see no failure now
[11:53] <morphis> robru: seems like that worked perfectly: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-054-1-build/37/console
[11:58] <sil2100> jhodapp: hey! I just checked the seeds and from what I see no seed changes will be needed for the new media-hub
[11:59] <sil2100> jhodapp: the seeds only depend on the media-hub package which pulls in the other deps, so it should simply pull in the new 4 libaries by default after publishing since the deps have been modified
[12:19] <boiko> rvr: hi, need any help with silo 25 testing? or is it under control?
[12:21] <rvr> boiko: Currently under control. If I have any doubt, I'll ping you, thanks :)
[12:21] <boiko> rvr: cool, thanks :)
[12:23] <popey> jibel, my music-app card is still in trello under 'failed' - can it be moved pls?
[12:23] <popey> I worry nobody will look at it again
[12:24] <popey> oooh! it's in both!
[12:24] <popey> jibel, /ignore popey
[12:26] * sil2100 lunch
[12:28] <Mirv> :)
[12:32] <morphis> robru: ping
[13:23] <jhodapp> sil2100, awesome thanks for looking into that
[13:27] <rvr> boiko: ping
[13:29] <boiko> rvr: pong
[13:29] <rvr> boiko: I have a Bluetooth speaker paired. When I do a call to the device, the ring tone is played on the phone and not on the speaker.
[13:29] <boiko> salem_: ^
[13:30] <boiko> salem_: can't remember if that's expected or not
[13:30] <salem_> rvr, I believe that's expected
[13:30] <rvr> salem_: "Ringing should go by default only to wired headset if connected"
[13:30] <boiko> rvr: I think we only play in both outputs when using wired headsets
[13:31] <boiko> rvr: yes, wired, not bluetooth
[13:31] <rvr> Ah, wired
[13:31] <boiko> rvr: :)
[13:31] <rvr> The call then uses the speaker
[13:31] <boiko> rvr: for wired headset it should ring on both the headphone and the speaker
[13:32] <rvr> and when I do a call using the device, the speaker is also used
[13:32] <rvr> The only thing that doesn't use the speaker is the ring tone when receiving a call
[13:33] <boiko> rvr: you mean in the bluetooth case?
[13:33] <rvr> boiko: Right
[13:33] <rvr> I don't have a wired headset
[13:34] <boiko> rvr: I think some regular wired headphones should work too (or they used to the last time I tried)
[13:52] <xavigarcia_lunch> jibel: ping
[13:53] <xavigarcia> davmor2: hey there! Just to double check you received my previous message (sometimes my IRC does weird things)
[13:54] <davmor2> xavigarcia: possibly not
[13:54] <davmor2> xavigarcia: I saw your message on the trello card though
[13:54] <xavigarcia> davmor2: oh, ok... it was just about that
[13:54] <jibel> xavigarcia, pong
[13:55] <xavigarcia> jibel: hey! I've updated the indicator sound silo, to avoid those ugly notifications on phone calls
[13:55] <davmor2> xavigarcia: I'll get back to you when I have some time
[13:57] <xavigarcia> davmor2: ok... thanks!
[13:58] <boiko> rvr: just flashed a krillin with silo 25 here and confirmed that with a wired headset it plays the ringtone on both the speaker and the headphones
[13:58] <rvr> boiko: Great, thanks
[13:59] <rvr> boiko: But it doesn't happen with my Bluetooth speaker
[13:59] <rvr> boiko: With OTA8, something is played on the speaker
[14:00] <boiko> salem_: do you have a bluetooth speaker to try it there?
[14:01] <boiko> rvr: we didn't change any of that in the code, so, if it is broken now, it might be because of some other landing, maybe the recent bluez changes?
[14:02] <boiko> rvr: can you just clarify what behavior you are expecting (and that you had in OTA8 on your device)?
[14:02] <rvr> boiko: According to davmor2, it should make a sound on both devices
[14:03] <rvr> He tested bluez5
[14:03] <boiko> rvr:/me checks the code, but I don't think that was implemented in our side.... let me see
[14:03] <boiko> salem_: ^
[14:04] <salem_> rvr, your bluetooth speaker has no hfp support probably
[14:04] <sil2100> kenvandine, cyphermox: hey guys!
[14:04] <cyphermox> sil2100: hey
[14:04] <sil2100> kenvandine, cyphermox: or actually, let me move this to #ubuntu-devel
[14:04] <salem_> rvr, I suppose you only hear the ringtone if your bluetooth device has hfp
[14:04] <rvr> I checked OTA8, and some kind of wait sound is played in the speaker
[14:06] <salem_> rvr, then it must be something related to the bluez change. morphis can probably comment on that.
[14:06] <rvr> salem_: I see
[14:06] <salem_> rvr, if that's the case, you can try with an older image, and if it works, we have to file a bug against bluez I think
[14:07] <boiko> rvr: in any casem the behavior you see with silo 25 should be the same as the one you see using latest packages from vivid overlay
[14:07] <salem_> rvr, yep, we haven't changed the ringtone behavior in any of the MR's in that silo.
[14:08] <davmor2> rvr, boiko: morphis can confirm but in my testing the phone always rang and then the headset made whatever tone it defaults to, Some ring like a phone others just beep
[14:13] <morphis> rvr, salem_, boiko: lets clarify one thing first:
[14:14] <morphis> if we're connected on the HFP profile we just send the indication and whatever ringtone the handsfree-device has is played, we don't stream any ringtone audio to the BT device
[14:14] <morphis> if we're to A2DP only device audio is forwarded to the BT device
[14:14] <morphis> which includes also the ringtone
[14:18] <salem_> morphis, thanks for the clarification.
[14:19] <morphis> salem_: so what are you seeing on your side?
[14:21] <salem_> morphis, I haven't tested yet. but rvr reported he is not hearing the ringtone in the bluetooth speaker, which according to your explanation it should be played.
[14:22] <morphis> salem_: make sure the speaker supports only A2DP
[14:22] <morphis> if it supports both HFP and A2DP you will only hear whatever the speaker wants to play on an incoming call
[14:26] <salem_> morphis, yes, from what I understood his device is A2DP only, and nothing is being played.
[14:27] <morphis> rvr: can you follow the steps under "Generating log files with debugging information" on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingBluetooth and share /var/log/syslog after a reboot and reproducing this?
[14:27] <rvr> morphis: Ok
[14:29] <morphis> rvr: thanks!
[14:39] <rvr> morphis: There is no /etc/init/bluetooth.override
[14:39] <rvr> NOTE: If /etc/init/bluetooth.override doesn't exist use the following command instead
[14:41] <davmor2> rvr: so use the other command ;)
[14:41] <morphis> rvr: :)
[14:41] <rvr> I read that later, sorry :)
[14:41] <morphis> rvr, davmor2: once ota9 is released the .override line will go away :)
[14:47] <bfiller> sil2100: can you force merge silo 24 please (camera-app) - stuck in xenial proposed
[14:47] <rvr> morphis: <morphis> rvr: :)
[14:47] <rvr> Ups
[14:47] <rvr> morphis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13477057/
[14:48] <sil2100> bfiller: on it, let me look at teh reason quickly
[14:48] <bfiller> sil2100: thanks
[14:49] <sil2100> bfiller: hmmm
[14:50] <sil2100> bfiller: give me a few mins, the excuses page didn't get updated yet so I don't see why it's stuck
[14:50] <bfiller> sil2100: sure, thanks
[14:50] <seb128> bfiller, why do you think it's stucked?
[14:50] <sil2100> But I see the package's been there for just 20 minutes
[14:50] <seb128> bfiller, it has been uploaded 15 minutes ago
[14:50] <sil2100> So maybe it's just migrating
[14:55] <bfiller> seb128, sil2100: yeah maybe, but figured it was stuck or blocked as it migrated immediately into vivid+overlay
[14:56] <bfiller> I'm just impatient I guess
[14:56] <bfiller> as I want to release a click bult from trunk
[14:57] <sil2100> It should be quick I suppose, I see it's a valid candidate and output doesn't say anything bad as well
[14:57] <sil2100> Should migrate with the next tick possibly
[14:58] <seb128> bfiller, the mps got merged so I guess it migrated
[14:58] <seb128> just got emails about one of my fix changing to merged
[14:59] <alex-abreu> trainguards having issues w/ silo 45 https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-045-1-build/107/console
[15:04] <rvr> morphis: boiko: I created a bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1519007
[15:05] <boiko> rvr: thanks
[15:06] <seb128> rvr, morphis, boiko, is that a variant from https://code.launchpad.net/~tiagosh/telepathy-ofono/play_ringtone_speakers/+merge/276312 ? the bug linked to that mp is still open
[15:07] <Saviq> robru, hey ho, did anything change in the train recently that could cause https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-005-1-build/219/console when using your -gles packaging approach? why would the qtmir tarball be missing?
[15:08] <boiko> seb128: nops, that's for wired headset, that's fixed already
[15:08] <seb128> k
[15:09] <morphis> rvr: thanks
[16:36] <Saviq> trainguards, I can't build https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/690, it forces the -gles packages for qtmir and qtubuntu, but something must've changed and robru's trick for building those out of the same source doesn't work, qtmir tarball is not found when -gles is building :/
[16:36] <popey> congratulations sil2100
[16:49] <sil2100> popey: thanks! :)
[16:49] <sil2100> Saviq: hmm
[16:52] <popey> sil2100, I am told that the rc proposed bq aquaris image is putting the old terminal (grey, with header) and old file manager (wrong icon) in the image, mhall119 just told me his recent flash did this
[16:53] <popey> sil2100, is there some thing you need to poke to make it pull the right ones in
[16:54] <davmor2> popey: what channel
[16:56] <sil2100> popey: yeah, so that's still untouched - the good news is that I have already created the job that would create the proper tarball, but didn't have the time to hook that up yet
[16:56] <sil2100> popey: (that's only for mako bq-aquaris.en)
[16:56] <popey> davmor2, not sure, getting this from mhall119
[16:56] <popey> ok, thanks sil2100
[16:56] <sil2100> davmor2: it's ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en
[16:56] <davmor2> mhall119: I assume is using the bq one for location then pretty sure that is the one he was using
[16:56] <sil2100> It's the old unmaintained channel that I wish to put life into and then migrate to a proper name
[16:57] <davmor2> sil2100: yeap just going for clarification
[17:06] <alex-abreu> robru, ping
[17:12] <mhall119> davmor2: yes, I used the rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en channel for mako images
[17:12] <mhall119> other core apps might be old in that image too, but terminal and file manager were the ones I noticed
[17:13] <davmor2> mhall119: all of them are old :)
[17:14] <mhall119> davmor2: I can relate :)
[17:15] <davmor2> mhall119: meh you're not old, you have to get to my age to be old
[17:15] <mhall119> davmor2: I'm working on it
[17:16] <rvr> boiko: Approving silo 25
[17:51] <robru> morphis: except for the part where it created a second changelog entry with the same version repeated: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-054-1-build/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/bluez_vivid_packaging_changes.diff/*view*/
[18:02] <robru> Saviq: crap, yes
[18:10] <robru> Saviq: you around? just emailed you with a fix
[18:11] <morphis> robru: yes, is that something we can fix?
[18:12] <robru> morphis: hmmm
[18:13] <robru> morphis: try rebuilding with changelog "bluez (5.36-0ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=medium"
[18:14] <robru> morphis: I think when you say "vivid" in there the train thinks that's just an old entry and it tries to make a new one
[18:17] <morphis> robru: without bumping 0ubuntu1?
[18:18] <robru> morphis: well no you'll need to bump it now otherwise the ppa won't accept the upload
[18:18] <morphis> ok, as I thought
[18:22] <Saviq> robru, here
[18:23] <Saviq> robru, applying
[18:26] <Saviq> robru, just looking at that, is SILONAME an env var exported by the train? are there others we could rely on in debian/rules clean if we wanted to do some things there?
[18:27] <robru> Saviq: yes, the train sets that. there are a few others. if you run the build job with $DEBUG = true you'll see a nearly-full list
[18:27] <Saviq> robru, ok, /me will look into the .pot update in debian/rules clean
[18:28] <robru> Saviq: other than what you see with $DEBUG, train will also add $DIST='xenial' (or whatever series) just before the build.
[18:34] <bfiller_> popey: when get a chance there is a new camera-app in store ready for review
[18:40] <boiko> robru: hi, so there were some launchpad translations update on dialer and messaging on trunk, but QA has validated the silo already
[18:40] <boiko> robru: is it just a matter of rebuilding them and publishing?
[18:41] <popey> bfiller_, done
[18:42] <robru> boiko: I fixed the train so that it doesn't invalidate the silo over just translation updates, so you should be good to publish
[18:42] <boiko> robru: great! thanks!
[18:44] <robru> boiko: oh wait, just looking at this log, seems a bug. the publish job is blocking but the status says 'successfully built'
[18:44] <salem_> robru, I just published
[18:45] <salem_> robru, ah ok, it failed again
[18:45] <boiko> salem_: robru: yeah. same error
[18:45] <robru> boiko: salem_ sorry about that guys, will push a fix
[18:46] <boiko> robru: that's ok, just let us know when it is fixed
[18:48] <robru> fix is in trunk, will roll that out asap
[18:48] <dbarth_> hey robru, we've got a merge request for a new package; see https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/695
[18:52] <robru> dbarth_: seems mostly reasonable but it looks like somebody copied an old example. standards version should be (i think) 3.9.6 and the vcs-bzr field can just be "lp:signon-plugin-sasl"
[18:54] <robru> boiko: ok try now
[18:54] <boiko> robru: thanks
[18:54] <robru> boiko: you're welcome!
[21:43] <bfiller> fginther: trying to build gallery in jenkins and having some problems: http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/click/job/gallery-app-click/304/
[21:43] <bfiller> fginther: any ideas what's going on?
[21:43] <fginther> bfiller, looking
[21:45] <fginther> bfiller, I don't see a problem. It claim "Successfully built package in './com.ubuntu.gallery_2.9.1.1250_armhf.click'." and I see the artifact was saved. What am I missing?
[21:46] <bfiller> fginther: seeing "Publishing status: Error during build publishing " with a stack trace, thought that was a problem
[21:47] <fginther> bfiller, ah. those messages are related to the sending of the results and artifacts to the external jenkins. We're investigating but it all appears to be working. https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/gallery-app-click/304/ exists as expected
[21:47] <bfiller> fginther: ok cool, thakns
[21:47] <fginther> bfiller, sorry about that. For now it appears to be an annoyance, but not a real problem
[21:48] <bfiller> fginther: no worries
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-si
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[00:24] <jabuk> M 1.2 > 3.km SV od KNEŽAKA @23/11/2015 01:12:26 https://maps.google.com/?q=45.65+N,+14.27+E
[00:51] <idioterna> http://www.delo.si/novice/kronika/ustreljenega-policista-resil-neprebojni-jopic.html
[00:51] <Pepelka> Ustreljenega policista rešil neprebojni jopič
[00:51] <Pepelka> »V soboto ponoči je 52-letni Franc Ribič iz Dolene v Halozah svoj strelski napad na policiste plačal z življenjem.«
[00:51] <idioterna> kr nevarni, ti begunci
[06:30] <napsy_> jutro
[06:58] <slax0r> jutro
[08:46] <CrazyLemon> a kdo uporablja atom?
[08:47] <zdobersek> jst
[08:47] <zdobersek> par miljard njih
[08:47] <CrazyLemon> od zadnjega updejta se mi več ne zažene
[08:47] <CrazyLemon> at all
[08:47] <CrazyLemon> 1.2.2 version
[08:47] <zdobersek> maybe try microsoft visual code
[08:47] <CrazyLemon> maybe i should!
[08:47] <zdobersek> you use windows already anyway
[08:48] <CrazyLemon> jelly much?
[08:49] <zdobersek> zer0 much
[09:01] <zdobbie> ping
[09:01] <jabuk> zdobbie: pong
[09:10] <CrazyLemon> 20 let gimpa! http://www.gimp.org/
[09:10] <Pepelka> GIMP - GNU Image Manipulation Program
[09:20] <slax0r> \o/
[09:22] <zdobersek> yeah, but photoshop
[09:22] <zdobersek> I mean
[09:22] <zdobersek> se noben ni vpil "this looks gimped!"
[09:25] <CrazyLemon> si zihr?
[09:25] <slax0r> this looks gimped!
[09:25] <slax0r> evo
[09:25] <slax0r> :P
[09:25] <CrazyLemon> !g gimped
[09:25] <Pepelka> Urban Dictionary: Gimped http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gimped
[09:25] <CrazyLemon> *coughs*
[09:26] <zdobersek> compatitor
[09:44] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek http://www.expansys.si/google-nexus-6p-32gb-aluminium-284124/
[09:44] <Pepelka> Google Nexus 6P (32GB, Aluminium) #51097272 - EXPANSYS Slovenija
[09:44] <Pepelka> »Available from EXPANSYS Slovenia, the Google Nexus 6P (32GB, Aluminium) also accessories, bundle offers, reviews and videos.«
[09:44] <zdobersek> 32GB
[09:44] <CrazyLemon> so? you film p0rn or smth?
[10:02] <zdobersek> what;s it to you anyway
[10:04] <zdobersek> http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/23/9781664/belgium-cat-photos-brussels-lockdown
[10:04] <Pepelka> Belgians respond to terrorist threat with cat photos | The Verge
[10:04] <Pepelka> »Brussels entered the third day of a city-wide lockdown today, as Belgian police continue to search for suspected terrorists accused of planning an "imminent" attack. Authorities announced that 16...«
[10:05] <CrazyLemon> i cant wait anymore dude! you need to buy it! like..now!
[10:06] <slax0r> zdobersek: he wants to film p0rn with you
[10:06] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: ma ta expansys je enmal shady
[10:14] <yang> .vreme lj
[10:14] <jabuk> ARSO: Ljubljana (299m): 0.4°C @23.11.2015 9:30 UTC.
[10:14] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 95% severnik 2.4 m/s (8.6 km/h)
[10:14] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:14:18, Kulminacija: 10:49:42, Sončni zahod: 15:25:05
[10:14] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 10min 47s, Luna je v ščipu
[11:04] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek shady? to je tko kot da bi rekel da je amazon.it shady ker ni 'the real amazon' :)
[11:04] <zdobersek> buuut it is the real amazon
[11:06] <CrazyLemon> well not really..its italian so ewww
[11:06] <zdobersek> http://www.enaa.com/search.asp?q=nexus&i=0&s=0&d=asc
[11:06] <zdobersek> cheap nexii
[11:06] <CrazyLemon> a boš kupil rabbit edition?
[11:06] <CrazyLemon> ali prostate edition?
[11:06] <zdobersek> nimajo v aluminij barvi
[11:07] <CrazyLemon> to je res ja
[11:38] <msev-> ej folk a mi boste pomagal namestit ubuntu zraven windows7, k tole particioniranje me zmerm zjebe :D
[11:38] <zdobersek> loh ti pomagamo namestit ubuntu prek windows7
[11:38] <msev-> kaj pa zraven
[11:38] <msev-> :D
[11:38] <zdobersek> steam os?
[11:39] <zdobersek> aka. debian
[11:39] <msev-> to znam da vse pobriše :)
[11:39] <msev-> ne, ubuntu mate
[11:39] <zdobersek> nimamo
[11:39] <msev-> bom dal frendu na njegov lenovo laptop :D
[11:39] <zdobersek> jst mam debian
[11:39] <zdobersek> v glavnem, windows expert je kle CrazyLemon
[11:39] <zdobersek> sramgabodi
[11:40] <CrazyLemon> #noshamehere
[11:40] <zdobersek> I will NOT fucking nosha you there, you pervert
[11:41] <msev-> CrazyLemon, a pol si v pripravljenosti :D
[11:41] <CrazyLemon> msev- kinda..a bit busy ampak ti kr shoot
[11:41] <msev-> zj iso downloadam pa bootable usb bom naredu pol se pa že začne tvoj job :)
[11:41] <msev-> nice thanks
[11:41] <CrazyLemon> če bom neodziven to pomeni da te ignoriram
[11:42] <CrazyLemon> :>
[11:42] <msev-> :P
[11:43] <CrazyLemon> msev- pa upam da imaš vsaj neki fraj placa na disku..as in non partitioned space
[11:43] <zdobersek> tis the #ubuntu-si community
[11:43] <CrazyLemon> you love it and you know it
[11:44] <msev-> 392gb free
[11:44] <zdobersek> msev-: ce bi se pa rad drl v praznino, prit pa na slack
[11:44] <msev-> 250gb mu bo dodelil (ubuntuju)
[11:44] <msev-> pa dal bom 15.10 tko da bo mogu pol upgradeat na lts
[11:50] <CrazyLemon> msev- a je to 392gb free na C particiji ali je unpartitioned?
[11:50] <msev-> na C disku
[11:50] <CrazyLemon> msev- that doesnt help you much :)
[11:50] <msev-> brez dodatnih particij je
[11:50] <msev-> i guess
[11:50] <CrazyLemon> msev- defrag pa uporabi tist windows tool da narediš 250gb free spacea
[11:51] <msev-> upam da nau trajal cel kp cajta
[11:51] <CrazyLemon> seveda bo..its windows
[11:53] <msev-> meh ain't nobody got time fo that, bomo kr povozil winse
[11:53] <msev-> :D
[12:00] <CrazyLemon> you'll be sorry
[12:01] <CrazyLemon> .rt
[12:01] <jabuk> Trenutno se predvaja: Hot Chip - Look At Where We Are. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXij1LZl0rk
[12:01] <CrazyLemon> http://www.siol.net/novice/slovenija/2015/11/prenovljena_e_uprava.aspx
[12:02] <Pepelka> Kaj prinaša prenovljena eUprava, v katero je vlada vložila 1,7 milijona evrov? | Slovenija - Planet Siol.net
[12:02] <Pepelka> »Z današnjim dnem je začel delovati prenovljeni spletni portal eUprava. Od zdaj bodo uporabniki lahko od doma urejali dokumente, plačevali in oddajali vloge.«
[12:02] <CrazyLemon> želim: želim se poročiti, štipendija, osebna izkaznica ..slovenština not rili
[12:02] <slax0r> lawl
[12:06] <zdobersek> a v tem vrstnem redu?
[12:06] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek its the slovenian dream!
[12:11] <dz0ny> http://i.imgur.com/wRq2upo.png LP
[12:13] <zdobersek> LINKIN PARK
[12:21] <msev-> ej a nej tickam "use LVM with the new UBUNTU MATE installation"?
[12:22] <slax0r> never LVM :P
[12:22] <idioterna> lvm je top
[12:22] <slax0r> ext2 or gtfo
[12:22] <slax0r> :)
[12:22] <slax0r> mislim, pure :)
[12:23] <slax0r> troll ofc :)
[12:24] <msev-> kaj nj zj dam no :D
[12:24] <msev-> a pustim brez al tickam to :D
[12:25] <msev-> bom dal use lvm
[12:25] <slax0r> btw, kako se pravilno pove ko ukaz zazenes v backround, like $ something & ? run in background? ali je kak boljsi izraz za to?
[12:26] <idioterna> run in background je ok
[12:27] <napsy_> background process
[12:27] <msev-> a keyboard layout lah spremenim še pol kasnej v nastavitvah ane
[12:28] <slax0r> tnx
[12:28] <slax0r> msev-: en_UK, done
[12:28] <slax0r> :)
[12:31] <msev-> slovenska je
[12:31] <msev-> :D
[12:31] <msev-> sam je delno angleška
[12:36] <zdobbie> u bun too, m8?
[12:40] <CrazyLemon> delno angleška? as in vse črke razn šumnikov so angleške?!? :O
[12:40] <CrazyLemon> :>
[12:46] <CrazyLemon> http://www.24ur.com/novice/slovenija/janseva-sds-zahteva-prepoved-nosenja-burke-in-nikaba.html
[12:46] <Pepelka> 24ur.com - Janševa SDS zahteva prepoved nošenja burke in nikaba
[12:46] <Pepelka> »Poslanska skupina SDS je v državni zbor vložila dva zakona, s katerimi predlaga prepoved nošenja burke in nikaba na javnih mestih ter zaostritev pogojev za pridobitev azila v Sloveniji. Prepoved na ravni celotne države imata le Francija in Belgija.«
[12:46] <CrazyLemon> čez 45min!
[12:46] <napsy_> lowl
[12:46] <slax0r> how can people even write in a different language, when all keys are english
[12:47] <slax0r> z tem bi se kar delno strinjal...
[12:47] <slax0r> ce js za pusta ne smem z masko na petrol itd.
[12:47] <slax0r> zakaj pa tile lahko celo leto z temi zavesami cez obraze hodijo vsepovsod?
[12:48] <Guest40419> :D
[12:49] <zdobersek> dobr, ce kristjani nehajo krizce nosit okol vratu
[12:49] <speed-> saj nase nune so iste ninje
[12:51] <zdobersek> aha, se to
[12:51] <zdobersek> pa zupniki morajo snet tiste ovratnike
[12:51] <zdobersek> but why stop there
[12:51] <zdobersek> dejmo ocala stran
[12:52] <zdobersek> omejimo dolzino las na 2cm
[12:52] <zdobersek> you never know!
[12:52] <CrazyLemon> ocal pa ne dam !
[12:53] <CrazyLemon> f u!
[12:53] <slax0r> zdobersek: a te mogoce krizec/ovratnik/ocala/dolgi lasje motijo pri identifikaciji/prepoznanju osebe?
[12:53] <slax0r> prpoznavanju*
[12:53] <slax0r> prepoznavanju*
[12:53] <slax0r> ffs
[12:54] <zdobersek> slax0r: ne, ampak gre za verske simbole
[12:54] <CrazyLemon> zihr si na angleski tipkovnici
[12:54] <slax0r> CrazyLemon: v bistvu je nemska
[12:54] <slax0r> sam mam pa UK layout :P
[12:54] <CrazyLemon> slax0r no sej.. zato pa imas tezave pri pisanju v slo.
[12:54] <slax0r> mogoce
[12:55] <slax0r> zdobersek: ja, gre za verske simbole, samo nekateri verski simboli povzrocajo druge "tezave"
[12:55] <slax0r> ce bi neka vera "diktirala" da mora vsak vernik nosit zraven pusko, noz, granate in ne vem kaksno orozje se vse, bi se z tem tudi stirnjali?
[12:57] <slax0r> tudi recimo v tuniziji imajo zakon da zenske ki so zaposlene na javnih mestih ne smejo nositi burk in niqab med sluzbenim casom, kar je cisto pravilno
[12:57] <idioterna> valda da bi se strinjali
[12:58] <idioterna> zakaj se pa ne bi
[12:58] <slax0r> zakaj se pa bi?
[12:59] <zdobersek> slax0r: lihkar si primerju cel arzenal orozja s pokrivalom
[12:59] <zdobersek> oy vey
[13:00] <slax0r> ne gre se za to kaj sem primerjal, gre se zato, zakaj eni lahko in drugi ne
[13:00] <zdobersek> slax0r: my point as well
[13:01] <zdobersek> zakaj loh nekdo nosi krizec okol vratu, burke pa bi ne smel
[13:01] <zdobersek> a loh fedore tud prepovejo?
[13:02] <slax0r> a ti krizec ali pa fedora zakrije obraz?
[13:03] <napsy_> it's alll good
[13:03] <slax0r> meh
[13:03] <slax0r> -> work
[13:03] <slax0r> :)
[13:03] <idioterna> slax0r: a ti kalasnik zakrije obraz?
[13:04] <slax0r> erm, ne, ti pa da "druge moci"
[13:04] <slax0r> like I said
[13:04] <slax0r> -> work
[13:05] <idioterna> sploh ne vem kaj hocs povedat
[13:05] <zdobersek> a potem na motorjih ne bojo vec nosil celad?
[13:05] <zdobersek> se nem bom smel vec z ocali vozit na kolesu?
[13:05] <speed-> kar hoce povedat
[13:06] <speed-> je da muslimani nimajo kaj tu bluzit
[13:06] <speed-> :)
[13:06] <speed-> simple as it is
[13:06] <zdobersek> kristjani se pa lahko?
[13:06] <zdobersek> kaj daje njim prednost pred keltskimi bozanstvi?
[13:06] <idioterna> ha?
[13:06] <idioterna> speed-: zakaj pa lih muslimani ne?
[13:07] <speed-> zato ker so teroristi
[13:07] <idioterna> kdo?
[13:07] <speed-> haha
[13:07] <idioterna> muslimani?
[13:07] <zdobersek> kristjani so tud
[13:07] <zdobersek> in ateisti
[13:07] <speed-> glej jaz se ne mislim v ta pogovor vpletat :)
[13:07] <idioterna> too late for that now
[13:07] <speed-> ampak pac kar ti slax0r hoce razlozit
[13:07] <idioterna> je da je naci ja
[13:07] <idioterna> sej to smo ze prej vedl
[13:07] <speed-> saj smo vsi malo
[13:07] <speed-> drugace pa kar se tice vere
[13:07] <slax0r> sploh se ne gre za vero... gre se zato, zakaj muslimanke lahko nosijo burke, grejo kamorkoli, ko pa je pust pa jaz z masko ne smem na petrol :)
[13:07] <speed-> prepovedat
[13:07] <speed-> vsako vero na tem svetu
[13:08] <idioterna> slax0r: k si lopov
[13:08] <slax0r> zato ker mam masko? :)
[13:08] <idioterna> ja, seveda
[13:08] <idioterna> mislm, vsi k majo masko so lopovi
[13:08] <idioterna> a nisi vedu tega?
[13:08] <slax0r> o...k?
[13:08] <idioterna> weird
[13:09] <idioterna> ljudje ne vejo da so vsi k majo masko lopovi
[13:09] <idioterna> vejo pa da so vsi muslimani teroristi.
[13:09] <idioterna> a ni to cudn?
[13:09] <idioterna> po moje so vas iluminati sprogramiral
[13:09] <slax0r> troll much, :)
[13:09] <zdobersek> lej jih, kristjane http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/4280740/the-twon-nuns-scene-o.gif
[13:10] <slax0r> tako se vsi hitro na vere obesite tukaj :)
[13:10] <zdobersek> ja lej, vere so res redundant
[13:11] <zdobersek> ampak kaj ces
[13:11] <zdobersek> jst nimam casa tega popravljat
[13:11] <speed-> isti smo ko muslimi
[13:11] <speed-> se na vero spravljamo haha
[13:11] <slax0r> v bistvu se pa gre samo za to, jaz ne smem nikamor z masko, ne zato ker sem lopov, ampak ce bi ze kaj uspicil, me nihce ne more identificirat, ampak ce sem zenskega spola in muslimanske vere(ali katera koli druga kombinacija ki ima doloceno obrazno pokrivalo), pa to lahko mirne duse naredim
[13:12] <zdobersek> slax0r: ce si pripadnik vere, k pac nosi neko pokrivalo, mas kr dober razlog
[13:12] <slax0r> torej to pomeni da se vedno dajemo vero nad zakon?
[13:12] <slax0r> *thumbs up*
[13:12] <zdobersek> slax0r: ne, versko svobodo
[13:13] <zdobersek> dokler ta ne krsi pravic drugih
[13:13] <zdobersek> slax0r: lej to versko toleranco http://www.siol.net/novice/slovenija/2015/09/zombi_dob.aspx
[13:13] <Pepelka> Zombiji v zaporu na Dobu, v cerkev se je včlanil Milko Škoberne | Slovenija - Planet Siol.net
[13:13] <Pepelka> »Jutri ob 11. uri se namerava pred vrati našega največjega zapora kot duhovnik pojaviti psiholog Matic Munc, duhovno oskrbo bo ponudil obsojenemu sodniku Milku Škobernetu.«
[13:13] <slax0r> cba t o read
[13:14] <slax0r> al pa recimo mejni prehodi, na nekaterih mejah moras ze oddati prstne odtise, ampak ce mas spet zgornjo kombinacijo vere in spola, pa lahko gres prek kar z deko na faci
[13:14] <slax0r> fuck yeah! equality!
[13:15] <slax0r> al kaj, delajo tistim retinal scan?
[13:15] <slax0r> mislim, 21. stoletje, pa se se kar "klanjamo" veram
[13:15] <slax0r> \o/
[13:15] <zdobersek> ne, ne klanja se veram, ampak beguncem
[13:15] <slax0r> "beguncem" da
[13:15] <zdobersek> veram pa ne
[13:16] <speed-> itak da veram tudi
[13:16] <speed-> ze koliko drzavnih praznikov je
[13:16] <speed-> :)
[13:16] <speed-> vec verskih kot ostalih
[13:16] <slax0r> pa tut zarad mene ce prepovejo krizce, ovratnike, oranzna pregrinjala(ali kaj je pac znacilno za budiste)
[13:16] <zdobersek> mhm
[13:16] <slax0r> fuck me if I care
[13:16] <zdobersek> ne vem, zakaj mi na binkost ni treba delat
[13:17] <zdobersek> al pa velikonocni ponedeljek
[13:17] <slax0r> pridi v avstrijo, se ti marsikater drug cerkveni praznik ne bo treba delat
[13:18] <zdobersek> ma jst mam itak prilagodljiv delovni cas, lahko tud nedeljo preorjem pred zaslonom
[13:20] <speed-> eh nebom vec gledal na ta kanal dokler je pogovor o tem :)
[13:20] <speed-> mi samo moralo zbijate!
[13:20] <zdobersek> ja hvala enako
[13:21] <zdobersek> sicer anny tko ni, yangnoping je pa afk
[13:21] <idioterna> slax0r: kdo ti pa brani da reces da si zenska muslimanske vere?
[13:21] <zdobersek> tko da lucks were had
[13:21] <zdobersek> aha
[13:21] <zdobersek> konc lepga
[13:21] <idioterna> pa gres z dekco na glavi na petrol?
[13:22] <slax0r> idioterna: par tisocakov v zepu :)
[13:22] <zdobersek> (hint: sme ti noben)
[13:23] <idioterna> kaj pa delas s tok dnara u zepu
[13:23] <idioterna> zgubu bos pol bo pa spet jamr jamr
[13:23] <slax0r> idioterna: ne ne, par tisocakov v zepu ki jih nimam...
[13:23] <slax0r> sprememba spola pa to
[13:23] <slax0r> baje drag sport
[13:23] <idioterna> halo no
[13:23] <idioterna> zakaj bi mogu pa spol spreminjat
[13:23] <idioterna> enostavno reces "i want you to call me loretta"
[13:24] <idioterna> in je to to
[13:24] <slax0r> mja, saj res
[13:24] <slax0r> burka cez glavo
[13:24] <slax0r> mal maskare na oci, al kaj to ze je za trepalnice
[13:24] <slax0r> pa gas na petrol
[13:24] <idioterna> ma ne rabs zgledat ko zenska da loh reces da si
[13:24] <slax0r> sam si bolj prepricljiv
[13:25] <slax0r> pa recim da glasa nimam ravno zenskega
[13:25] <idioterna> ja koga hoces pa prepricat
[13:25] <slax0r> potem naj vsaj oci zgledajo kot zenska
[13:25] <slax0r> zenske*
[13:25] <idioterna> tvoja pravica je da se sam odlocis kaj zaenga spola si
[13:25] <yang> evo idioterna ma izkusnje, kako je ce se pretvarjas da si zenska
[13:25] <zdobersek> https://twitter.com/kricac/status/668772756134174720
[13:25] <Pepelka> Denis Oštir auf Twitter: "Me zanima, če so letos jaslice prepovedane. Mislim migranti in begunci, pa te fore ..."
[13:25] <slax0r> so much wrong in that statement :D
[13:25] <idioterna> what statement
[13:26] <idioterna> a da si mas pravico izbrat spol
[13:26] <slax0r> "se lahko odlocis kaj zaenkga spola si"
[13:26] <idioterna> ja wtf man
[13:26] <idioterna> a nisi polnoletn odrasu?
[13:26] <idioterna> men se zdi velik manj sick jit na upravno enoto pa rect da ti spol popravijo na zensko
[13:27] <idioterna> kokr da si das silikonsko oprsje montirat
[13:27] <yang> mors si oneta odrezat
[13:27] <idioterna> zakaj?
[13:27] <yang> drgac ne mors spremenit spola
[13:27] <yang> uradno
[13:27] <idioterna> kdo te je pa to nategnu
[13:27] <yang> ja tko je salome razlagal
[13:27] <idioterna> ja dobr te je okol prnesu
[13:28] <idioterna> ti si pa verjel, naivko
[13:28] <yang> pol ko so mu ga pa odrezal pa je naredu "muca party"
[13:28] <idioterna> krneki
[13:28] <idioterna> vi ste cist usekani
[13:28] <yang> ja res
[13:29] <yang> http://www.napovednik.com/dogodek105496_salome_muca_party
[13:29] <Pepelka> Salome - Muca Party, Klub InBox, Ljubljana, - 20.6.09 ob 22.00
[13:29] <Pepelka> »Vabljeni na zadnje dejanje pred dolgim vročim poletjem s seksi Salome.«
[13:29] <idioterna> ja verjamem da res sam nobenga pametnega cloveka to ne zanima
[13:30] <upd> da faq.
[13:31] <yang> ne mors si spola po zelji spreminjati na dokumentih
[13:31] <yang> ne trolaj
[13:32] <idioterna> seveda si ga lahko, halo
[13:33] <yang> potem bi atleti kar menjavali spl za boljse rezultate
[13:33] <yang> deci bi na upravni enoti zahtevali spremembo in tekmovali kot zenske
[13:35] <idioterna> ja, seveda
[13:35] <idioterna> ker na stadionu te v pasus pogledajo.
[13:42] <yang> kam pa mislis, da te gledajo v popek ?
[13:43] <idioterna> ne, v krvno sliko
[13:59] <msev-> kle v temu pogovoru sploh nemorm sledit kdo je za kero stran :D
[13:59] <msev-> hehe
[14:02] <speed-> vsi smo proti vsem
[14:03] <speed-> to glih tak funkcionira, ko koga srecas nekje v tujini
[14:03] <speed-> blizje je tebi bolj sta si zdobra:)
[14:04] <idioterna> nah, msev-
[14:04] <idioterna> easy je
[14:04] <idioterna> clovekove pravice uber alles
[14:04] <idioterna> vsi k se ne strinjajo pa u gulag
[14:04] <idioterna> ko jih jebe.
[14:04] <idioterna> ce nocjo clovekovih pravic, pol nej jih pac nimajo
[14:06] <speed-> samo vsaka drzava si to tudi po svoje razlaga te clovekove pravice
[14:07] <idioterna> ja, eni mislijo, da ni clovekova pravica, da se oblaci po lastni presoji
[14:12] <speed-> spet na vero vlece
[14:12] <idioterna> https://bou.si/pic/winter-gear.jpg
[14:12] <idioterna> legal!
[14:12] <speed-> hehe
[14:12] <speed-> od kdaj to
[14:13] <idioterna> ze skos
[14:13] <idioterna> tut na pumpo grem loh pa mi nc ne tezijo
[14:13] <speed-> nene slika od kdaj
[14:13] <idioterna> tko da ne vem zakaj bi ble burke sporne
[14:13] <idioterna> aja dunno
[14:13] <idioterna> par let nazaj i guess
[14:13] <speed-> aja sem mislil da je zdaj te dni
[14:13] <speed-> ker baje je sneg vse okoli
[14:13] <idioterna> ne zdej nimam vec tega bicikla
[14:13] <speed-> samo prinas ni nic :(
[14:13] <idioterna> sm na hibrida presaltu
[14:14] <msev-> woo idioterna kok si zakrit :D
[14:14] <msev-> to bojo bannal boš pol se mogu prehladit pozim :D
[14:14] <upd> ma to je en terorist z bombo v ruzaku
[14:14] <msev-> požigalec
[14:14] <msev-> :D
[14:14] <idioterna> https://bou.si/pic/excellent-winter-gear.jpg
[14:14] <upd> sred zime
[14:15] <idioterna> zdej mam tacga
[14:15] <idioterna> ful bl leti
[14:15] <idioterna> loh vse pozgem in pobegnem predn pridejo nacisti
[14:15] <speed-> pravis da uzivas po snegu hehe
[14:15] <idioterna> ma uzivam povsod
[14:15] <idioterna> pa tut sneg me ne ustavi
[14:16] <speed-> mater jaz sem pa letos z bikom naredil kilometer pa pol vse skup :D
[14:16] <idioterna> js nardim 10k na let
[14:16] <speed-> uf
[14:16] <speed-> toliko jaz z avtom nedelam haha
[14:18] <msev-> dang
[14:23] <CrazyLemon> idioterna črn sedež rabiš no
[14:40] <idioterna> a za bit terorist
[14:44] <slax0r> a ma mogoce systemd kak built-in replication system?
[14:44] <slax0r> ali to moras poskrbet sam?
[14:45] <slax0r> a sneg mate tam doli?
[14:54] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96Iz7w-uOog
[14:54] <Pepelka> We are Everysight - www.everysight.com - YouTube
[14:54] <Pepelka> »Soon we will be telling you more about Raptor, our digitally enhanced eyewear for cycling enthusiasts. It packs uniquely unobtrusive display technology and p...«
[14:54] * CrazyLemon turned on
[14:54] <CrazyLemon> i want everysight..i want it bad
[15:03] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek evo če želiš prodaj svoj n5 http://slo-android.si/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=16446
[15:03] <CrazyLemon> prodat*
[15:03] <Pepelka> K: Kupim LG NEXUS 5 - Forum - Slo-Android.si
[15:03] <Pepelka> »Kranj in okolica do LJ še pridem. Naj bo ohranjen, ima še nekaj mesecev garanciej + 150-170€ max, hvala 040 299 000, kmetek@gmail. com ali ZS....«
[15:04] <zdobersek> ne
[15:04] <zdobersek> kmetkom ne prodajam
[15:04] <matjaz> zdobersek: prodajaš?
[15:04] <CrazyLemon> kmete ne podpiraš..talibane pa! ffs..janševc!
[15:04] <zdobersek> ok
[15:05] <zdobersek> sploh ne prodajam
[15:05] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: talibanov ne podpiram
[15:05] <zdobersek> telebane sem primoran
[15:05] <zdobersek> all talibans are telebans, but not all telebans are talibans
[15:38] <msev-> http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/foxtrotgps tale "tanova" verzija je za vivid, a v trustyju je neb mogu met?
[15:38] <Pepelka> Ubuntu – Details of package foxtrotgps in vivid
[15:38] <Pepelka> »GTK+ mapping and GPS application«
[15:39] <msev-> k za trusty je 1.11 al neki tazga
[15:39] <msev-> pa me zanima če mam na kšn način lahko tanovo
[15:50] <CrazyLemon> msev- sure.. backportaj vse pakete ki so odvisni od tanove verzije in ouila
[15:50] <CrazyLemon> imaš najnovejšo različico :D
[15:51] <zdobersek> ez pz
[16:04] <msev-> meh i'll just use OSM :D
[16:11] <msev-> a kdo ve kko se najde url od določenih mapping serviceov da pol delajo v kšnih linux programih
[16:11] <msev-> npr od google maps satellite, oz od bing aerial
[16:12] <msev-> da nimam sam OSM ampak še kšne bl uporabne zemljevide :D
[16:24] <CrazyLemon> the magic of google https://developers.google.com/maps/documentation/javascript/maptypes
[16:24] <Pepelka> Map Types | Google Maps Javascript API | Google Developers
[16:24] <CrazyLemon> now you try!
[17:21] <upd> http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-19/devastated-trader-crushed-soaring-biotech-starts-onling-begging-campaign-fund-106000?page=1
[17:21] <Pepelka> "Devastated" Trader Crushed By Soaring Biotech, Starts Online Begging Campaign To Fund $106,000 Margin Call | Zero Hedge
[17:21] <upd> shudaa just trade btc
[17:21] <idioterna> nah
[17:21] <idioterna> shoulda helped those immigrunts
[17:21] <upd> feed the rich first
[17:40] <anny_> cer
[17:40] <CrazyLemon> https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/3twmfv/dell_ships_laptops_with_rogue_root_ca_exactly/
[17:40] <Pepelka> Dell ships laptops with rogue root CA, exactly like what happened with Lenovo and Superfish : technology
[17:40] <Pepelka> »I got a shiny new XPS 15 laptop from Dell, and while attempting to troubleshoot a problem, I discovered that it came pre-loaded with a self-signed...«
[17:41] <anny_> s*it
[17:42] <CrazyLemon> happens
[17:42] <anny_> vedno
[17:42] <CrazyLemon> anny_ če se ne motim si ti spraševala kdaj bodo hekerji na tvju.. odgovor https://twitter.com/sicert/status/668716605036208128
[17:43] <Pepelka> SI-CERT auf Twitter: "Dokumentarni film #hekerji.si 17. 12. ob 20h na TV Slovenija 2 https://t.co/F39N8adcEu @RTV_Slovenija"
[17:44] <anny_> hvaaalaaa! <3
[17:44] <anny_> zapisano v mojo malo bukvico
[17:46] <anny_> kaj pa z dellom?
[17:46] <CrazyLemon> jah nč..vrž ga v smeti pa nabav lenovo
[17:46] <CrazyLemon> :p
[17:47] <idioterna> o lej anny_ a si vidla
[17:47] <idioterna> sam neumni so proti novim spremembam zakonodaje
[17:47] <idioterna> je blo na siolu
[17:47] <idioterna> al kje ze
[17:47] <anny_> nimam della..razmišljala sem o nabavi
[17:47] <idioterna> http://www.siol.net/novice/slovenija/2015/11/referendum_zzzdr_episcenter.aspx
[17:47] <anny_> idioterna, dihi, dihi...bo bolje
[17:47] <Pepelka> Na referendumu bi zmagala Aleš Primc in Metka Zevnik | Slovenija - Planet Siol.net
[17:47] <Pepelka> »Na referendumu 20. decembra bi 54 odstotkov ljudi glasovalo proti noveli zakona o zakonski zvezi, ki pravice istospolnih parov izenačuje s pravicami raznospolnih parov, kaže anketa Episcentra.«
[17:48] <idioterna> ah sej js cist ok diham
[17:48] <anny_> to so pričakovani podatki
[17:48] <idioterna> sam razlagam, da ne bos zivela v zmoti :)
[17:48] <anny_> moraš vedeti, da je slovenija še vedno precej ruralna dežela...ne v smislu kmetijstva, ampak razmišljanja
[17:48] <idioterna> ja, sej
[17:48] <idioterna> postavi se za napredek, dej
[17:48] <idioterna> yang mi je ze oblubu da bo su glasovat za
[17:48] <anny_> trenutno dogajanje je voda na mlin referendumu
[17:49] <idioterna> aja misls
[17:49] <anny_> zakaj bi se postavila za napredek?
[17:49] <idioterna> da otroci, ki odrascajo v istospolnih druzinah, ne bodo diskriminirani
[17:49] <anny_> kar se šteje za levo, je pri nas avtomatsko napredno in oh in sploh, kar je konzervativno je takoj fuj
[17:49] <idioterna> ne vem ce ma to kakrsnokoli zvezo s cimerkoli
[17:50] <idioterna> pac neposteno do otrok je
[17:50] <idioterna> da jih oba starsa ne moreta obiskat v bolnisnici
[17:50] <anny_> ima, z pomanjkanjem prepiha v glavi
[17:50] <idioterna> pa da ne dedujejo po obeh
[17:50] <idioterna> ah, to se spet probas izognt odgovornosti za otroke
[17:50] <anny_> ni panike, evropa bo šla v vsakem primeru v konzervativnost
[17:50] <idioterna> dvomim
[17:50] <anny_> bodisi kot šeriatska država bodisi kot policijska trdnjava
[17:50] <idioterna> najvecji konzervativci v svici so glasovali za popolno izenacitev pravic
[17:51] <idioterna> ah, to so te vase ksenofobne paranoje
[17:51] <anny_> samo upam, da ne bodo hujši od Dolfeta in Dučeja
[17:51] <idioterna> pretvarjas se, da ne mores vplivat na to
[17:51] <anny_> po tvoji klasifikaciji sem tako idiot-ka
[17:51] <anny_> zakaj bi se sploh razburjala?
[17:51] <idioterna> ja ce bos podpirala nastanek take druzbe
[17:51] <idioterna> potem ziher nisi cist pri pravi
[17:51] <anny_> haha
[17:51] <anny_> dej pejt spat
[17:51] <idioterna> nah, sm lih vstal
[17:52] <anny_> v soboto smo se dobili s tistim krogom umetnikov, kot zadnjič
[17:52] <idioterna> jsm pa nemskega hipija poslusal vcerej
[17:52] <anny_> lahkomiselnost v smislu saj bo jih je v enem mesecu zapustila
[17:52] <idioterna> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Lf4tPQMLn4
[17:52] <Pepelka> Alex Diehl - Nur ein Lied ( jetzt als Download erhältlich ) - YouTube
[17:52] <Pepelka> »hier downlaoden: ( Der Erlös geht 100% an SAVE THE CHILDREN ) ★iTunes: www.umgt.de/1UzTJV ★Google Play: www.umgt.de/RJgGah ★Amazon MP3: www.umgt.de/jCyQu2 Ei...«
[17:53] <idioterna> kasna lahkomiselnost?
[17:53] <idioterna> a ste jih prestrasil?
[17:53] <idioterna> drugic morm jit js zravn
[17:53] <idioterna> da jim razlozim da se nc ni spremenil
[17:54] <idioterna> pa da nej ne travmirajo k ni razloga da bi
[17:54] <anny_> hm....glede zaupanja v neko lahkotno prihodnost
[17:54] <idioterna> eh, lahkotno prihodnost
[17:54] <anny_> pusti ljudem lastno mnenje
[17:54] <anny_> imajo pravico do tega
[17:54] <idioterna> ha?
[17:54] <idioterna> kaksna neumnost je pa to zdej
[17:54] <idioterna> js nism mozganski kirurg
[17:54] <yang> anny_: jaz mu to ze skoz pravim, da je absolutisticen v svojih pogledih
[17:54] <idioterna> da bi lahko ljudem mnenje vzel ali pa spreminjal
[17:54] <anny_> ne, samo utrujaš na polno
[17:55] <idioterna> aja to pa moram
[17:55] <anny_> ne bom več brala, čao
[17:55] <idioterna> edini nacin da nehate sirit paranojo in sovrastvo
[17:55] <idioterna> je da mate opozicijo
[17:55] <idioterna> vids, yang
[17:55] <idioterna> nocjo debatirat o dejstvih
[17:55] <yang> tele ne bo vec nazaj kaksen mesec
[17:56] <idioterna> sej mam cajt
[17:56] <idioterna> bom pocakal
[17:56] <zdobersek> da ne bo referenduma zamudila
[17:56] <idioterna> z urljem v paste bufferju
[17:56] <idioterna> more bit kr jezna
[17:57] <idioterna> k ve da ma enako stalisce do zakona kot bliznjevzhodni muslimani
[17:57] <yang> to me spomni na uno foro ko je ena rekla da so se tut svingerji med sabo stepli :)
[17:57] <idioterna> ampak jim noce bit podobna, k se jih boji
[17:57] <idioterna> stepli?
[17:57] <yang> ja
[17:57] <idioterna> mogoce je samo narobe interpretirala rokoborbo
[17:57] <yang> haha
[17:58] <idioterna> ja rokoborba je sport pri katerem moras bit gol
[17:58] <idioterna> in namazan z oljem
[17:58] <idioterna> vsaj tko se je delal vcasih
[17:59] <idioterna> v mongoliji so se obleceni ravsal
[17:59] <idioterna> k majo bl mrzlo k grki
[17:59] <yang> ja tist mongolski ravs sem videl
[17:59] <idioterna> ampak pol je pa enkrat celo drzavo premagala ena zenska
[17:59] <idioterna> in od takrat naprej morjo bit topless
[17:59] <yang> hehe
[17:59] <idioterna> in zenske ne smejo tekmovat
[18:00] <yang> http://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2013/07/a-mongolian-neo-nazi-environmentalist-walks-into-a-lingerie-store-in-ulan-bator/100547/
[18:00] <Pepelka> A Mongolian Neo-Nazi Environmentalist Walks Into a Lingerie Store in Ulan Bator - The Atlantic
[18:09] <upd> nazziii
[18:26] <CrazyLemon> TIL about tablifon !
[18:26] <CrazyLemon> !g tablifon
[18:26] <Pepelka> Mstar S700: Poceni tablifon z osmimi jedrni - Računalniške novice http://www.racunalniske-novice.com/novice/mobilna-telefonija/dogodki-in-obvestila/mstar-s700-poceni-tablifon-z-osmimi-jedrni.html
[18:26] <CrazyLemon> figures..sam RN je tak 'medij' ki uporablja 'tablifon'
[18:27] <CrazyLemon> čudno da ni telet
[18:32] <zdobbie> a to je kao phablet
[18:33] <CrazyLemon> yup
[18:33] <idioterna> teleblica
[18:35] <yang> teletubbie
[19:01] <msev-> kaj ta mongolc hoče doseč
[19:09] <zdobbie> http://i.imgur.com/SwuQne4.gifv
[19:10] <idioterna> msev-: they're not sure.
[19:10] <yang> hehe
[19:11] <yang> kdaj majo volitve ?
[19:11] <idioterna> zdobbie: CrazyLemon
[19:11] <idioterna> splosna mobilizacija
[19:12] <zdobbie> http://i.imgur.com/gYIz24V.jpg
[21:44] <CrazyLemon> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUhIdZLVAAAddUn.jpg:large
[21:44] <CrazyLemon> odgovor della
[21:46] <CrazyLemon> also https://www.google.com/starwars/
[21:46] <Pepelka> Awaken the Force Within
[21:46] <Pepelka> »Dark side or light side? Choose your side of the Force to transform your Google experience. #ChooseYourSide«
[22:50] <yang> http://www.vox.com/world/2015/11/22/9772160/europe-syrian-refugees
[22:50] <Pepelka> The European countries that take in the most refugees, in one interactive map - Vox
[22:50] <Pepelka> »A haunting visual.«
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-africa
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[06:17] <Kilos> hellooo africa
[07:46] <craigbrash> Morning all
[07:47] <craigbrash> Meeting still on Wednesday?
[09:54] <Tribaal> Hi all. Do you guys know about http://na.pycon.org/ ?
[09:55] <Tribaal> It'd be great to have pan African participation :)
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-vn
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[03:37] <vubuntor732> chao anh chi admin
[03:38] * MrTuxHdb quét quét rác nhìn vubuntor732
[03:38] <vubuntor732> hôm qua em mở máy tính lên không thấy thanh menu của ubuntu hết
[03:39] <vubuntor732> anh chị giup em được không
[03:39] <MrTuxHdb> Ubuntu version?
[03:40] <vubuntor732> 15.10 ạ
[03:41] <MrTuxHdb> .g ubuntu 15.10 reset unity
[03:41] <SuperLuserv3> MrTuxHdb: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04
[03:42] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor732: thế mới cài driver à?
[03:42] <vubuntor732> cai drive nhu the nao ạ
[03:43] <MrTuxHdb> driver
[03:44] <vubuntor732> vâng.. nhưng em không biết nó bị sao nữa
[03:45] <vubuntor732> không thấy thanh menu em không biết làm gì
[03:48] <MrTuxHdb> khóc?
[03:48] <MrTuxHdb> Ctrl+Alt+T
[03:48] <MrTuxHdb> rồi gõ lệnh reset unity
[03:50] <vubuntor732> hihihi..
[03:50] <vubuntor732> cám ơn anh
[03:52] <vubuntor732> go bang terminal à
[03:57] <vubuntor732> cám ơn anh
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2015-11-23-#ubuntustudio-devel
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[09:39] <sakrecoer_> OvenWerk1: thanks! good to know :)
[10:28] <zequence> sakrecoer_: Nice work on the graphics workflow. I might not look at it for a couple of days, so don't feel bad if I don't answer yet.
[11:20] <sakrecoer_> zequence: no worries! :) is there a complete list of all devs and different team members with their email somewhere? i'm thinking about those interviews....
[11:20] <sakrecoer_> maybe i should just post a call for the purpose on the user list...?
[11:30] <sakrecoer_> yesterday was GIMP's birthday <3 20 years!!!!
[11:45] <sakrecoer_> like we say in sweden: "systemmyndig"... (system authority) you have to be 20 to go to the licorstore here which is a statemonopoly company called "Systembolaget"... sorry for OffTopic, thought someone might giggle a bit about it :D
[14:04] <OvenWerk1> sakrecoer_: :)
[14:04] <OvenWerk1> sakrecoer_: In Canada The age varies from 18 to 21, 19 where I am in BC
[17:06] <zequence> sakrecoer_: No list, really. There's the launchpad teams, pretty much.
[20:46] <sakrecoer_> good enough! i'll post something to the user list anyways. I think its about time you longterm devs get a bit of love for your work, so i'll start with you. But i'm sure there must be lots of great content creators on the userlist too.
[20:48] <sakrecoer_> by dev i mean the hole team from pr, to support and all that :)
[20:50] <OvenWerk1> Some of the people on the user list have been around a lot longer than I have.
[20:50] <sakrecoer_> i wont include myself tho, at least for the comming future... i think it would remove a bit of the authenticity. selfpromotion is delicate subject on internet i have noticed...
[20:53] <sakrecoer_> i know some of you mostely code, but i think that is a creativity that needs some love too. so i will forge questions for that aswell.
[20:54] <sakrecoer_> and its good for the community to get to know a little bit about the humans behind it. make it lively... :)
[22:29] <sakrecoer_> didn't see your reply OvenWerk1 ... sorry for typing you by...
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[19:37] <ahoneybun> damn mhall119 GIMP's birthday was on the 21st
[19:53] * mhall119 was a little busy that day
[19:57] <ahoneybun> lol
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2015-11-23-#juju-dev
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[00:20] <mup> Bug #1518793 opened: cinder (liberty) fails to retrieve volume limit in Horizon <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518793>
[00:26] <davecheney> does anyone have the link to the build tashboard
[00:26] <davecheney> i'm looking for the failing race builder
[00:36] <davecheney> menn0_: thumper https://github.com/juju/testing/pull/84
[01:09] <thumper> WTH?
[01:10] <thumper> fresh build of juju 1.22.7
[01:10] <thumper> $ juju bootstrap
[01:10] <thumper> Bootstrap failed, cleaning up the environment.
[01:10] <thumper> ERROR there was an issue examining the environment: dial tcp 127.0.0.1:37019: getsockopt: connection refused
[01:10] <thumper> with local provider
[01:11] <thumper> oh ffs
[01:12] <thumper> fuck fuck fuckity fuck
[01:12] <thumper> something changed no doubt with go 1.5
[01:22] <axw> davecheney: why skip tests that fail the race detector? they're failing due to things other than races? too slow?
[01:22] <axw> thumper: yes, that's fixed on master
[01:23] <axw> thumper: different error type
[01:23] <thumper> yeah
[01:23] <thumper> patched my local
[01:26] <thumper> axw: because we want go get the race test voting
[01:26] <thumper> then expand
[01:27] <thumper> otherwise people keep committing races
[01:27] <axw> fair enough
[01:29] <davecheney> axw: the tests timeout
[01:29] <davecheney> some horrid timing issue
[01:29] <davecheney> so, skip them for now
[01:29] <davecheney> get the race test voting
[01:29] <davecheney> and iterate from there
[01:29] <axw> davecheney: nps. getting it voting sounds good
[02:02] <mup> Bug #1518806 opened: apiserver: tests to not pass with -race under Go 1.2 <juju-core:Triaged by dave-cheney> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518806>
[02:02] <mup> Bug #1518807 opened: apiserver/client: tests to not pass with -race under Go 1.2 <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518807>
[02:02] <mup> Bug #1518809 opened: apiserver/uniter: tests to not pass with -race under Go 1.2 <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518809>
[02:14] <mup> Bug #1518810 opened: cmd/juju/commands: tests do not pass with -race under Go 1.2 <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518810>
[02:17] <mup> Bug #1518810 changed: cmd/juju/commands: tests do not pass with -race under Go 1.2 <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518810>
[02:25] <axw> wallyworld: thanks for shipit. I may end up changing the watcher as discussed as the worker evolves to support watching the remote side. we'll see.
[02:26] <wallyworld> axw: yep, np. it's always hard to get this 100% up front. i'm all for iterating on a feature branch and correcting issues as we get futher into the implementtion
[02:26] <wallyworld> at least we're considering all the options
[02:32] <mup> Bug #1518810 opened: cmd/juju/commands: tests do not pass with -race under Go 1.2 <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518810>
[03:26] <mup> Bug #1518820 opened: environs/bootstrap: tests to not pass with -race under Go 1.2 <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518820>
[03:27] <thumper> hmm...
[03:28] <thumper> I thought that the lxd provider had been merged into master
[03:29] <mup> Bug #1518820 changed: environs/bootstrap: tests to not pass with -race under Go 1.2 <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518820>
[03:30] <davecheney> thumper: it has
[03:30] <davecheney> i've raised some bugs because now the tests don't pass unless you have lxd installed
[03:30] <thumper> yeah... but I can't bootstrap and NFI why
[03:30] <davecheney> and not pass in an impolite way
[03:32] <mup> Bug #1518820 opened: environs/bootstrap: tests to not pass with -race under Go 1.2 <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518820>
[04:00] <cherylj> thumper: I think there were some build flag restrictions with lxd where it wouldn't work unless you had go 1.3 or later.
[04:01] <thumper> I have go 1.5
[04:01] <cherylj> ah, n/m then :)
[04:09] <anastasiamac> wallyworld: axw: I *think* list cli is ready for review (http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3171/)
[04:09] <anastasiamac> plz b genetle - i have a hole week ahead of me :P
[04:09] <axw> anastasiamac: okey dokey, looking
[04:09] <anastasiamac> gentle even
[04:09] <wallyworld> a "hole" week. what type of hole?
[04:10] <anastasiamac> a big and balck one :D
[04:10] <anastasiamac> black*
[04:11] <anastasiamac> for crying out \o/
[04:11] <cherylj> O_o
[04:12] <cherylj> neato. I got my provisioning updater to use the new MAAS 1.9 curtin status: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13469033/
[04:12] <cherylj> thumper: ^^
[04:13] <axw> cherylj: sweet!
[04:13] <cherylj> I feel better about demoing this now that we can use the new MAAS stuff
[04:13] * thumper looks
[04:13] <axw> cherylj: looking forward to being able to tell what's going on ;)
[04:13] <cherylj> thanks axw :)
[04:13] <thumper> nice
[04:13] <cherylj> although, the stuff from MAAS isn't as verbose or informative as I was hoping
[04:14] <axw> yeah that particular message isn't great
[04:15] <axw> anastasiamac: still reviewing, but please rename "type ListEndpointsServicesResult" to "type ListEndpointsServiceResults"
[04:15] <axw> anastasiamac: it's a collection of results where each result is a ListEndpointsServiceResult
[04:16] <anastasiamac> axw: there are several result collections
[04:16] <axw> anastasiamac: this one is in model/crossmodel
[04:16] <axw> not sure if there are others that need changing yet
[04:18] <anastasiamac> axw: yes.... ListEndpointsServiceResult is "service" and "ListEndpointsServicesResult" is "services" result. The 2nd being really a result from a "service directory" but we did not want to use "service directory" :D
[04:19] <axw> anastasiamac: not following. I'm looking at the definition of ListEndpointsServicesResult, and its contents are an error, and a slice of ListEndpointsServiceResult
[04:20] <axw> so how is that not ListEndpointsServiceResults?
[04:21] <anastasiamac> axw: it must b too hot in QLD, but isn't ur head spinning form all "Item"(s) and "result"(s)... I wish we had better less awful names (and naming conventions)
[04:22] <anastasiamac> axw: i'll address after school pickup :D
[04:22] <axw> anastasiamac: I agree it's not great, but we do have a convention and we do need to stick to it or things will be even worse
[04:22] <axw> anastasiamac: thank you
[04:30] <wallyworld> axw: i'll look at api pr, in the meantime, coupld you please look at this small one for charmrepo https://github.com/juju/charmrepo/pull/54
[04:32] <axw> wallyworld: LGTM
[04:32] <wallyworld> ty
[04:39] <mup> Bug #1518793 changed: cinder (liberty) fails to retrieve volume limit in Horizon <juju-core:Invalid> <cinder (Juju Charms Collection):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518793>
[04:39] <wallyworld> axw: so we have a naming issue. apifacade.WatchRemoteService(service string) should really call apiserver "WatchRemoteServices". but that method name is already used
[04:39] <axw> wallyworld: in existing facades it's always singular, even if it takes bulk. it's named after the singular argument.
[04:40] <axw> s/always/predominantly/
[04:40] <wallyworld> axw: yeah, i was about to say except in storageprovisioner WatchMachine()
[04:40] <wallyworld> mybe elsewhere
[04:40] <wallyworld> wish we were consistent
[04:40] <wallyworld> ok, i'll ignore it
[04:46] <wallyworld> axw: lgtm
[04:46] <axw> wallyworld: thanks
[09:21] <dimitern> jam, hey, sorry :/ I had to do an emergency reinstall of the new laptop this morning, after some package yesterday caused mayhem
[09:21] <jam> dimitern: we had *just* brought up the new laptop
[09:21] <dimitern> jam, nice! congrats :)
[09:23] * dimitern discovered even with 15.10 it's quite a challenge to get 4K laptop monitor + HD external monitor to work short of forcing the 4K screen to 1920x1080
[09:36] <dooferlad> dimitern: wow, really? I thought it was annoying just having the 4k screen.
[09:37] <dooferlad> dimitern: no scaling per screen I take it
[09:38] <dimitern> dooferlad, it's quite good actually, the issue is text is too small, but when scaled by 200% and it looks fine on the 4K screen, the text on the HD screen is also scaled twice :/ I wish unity supported separate scaling factors per display
[09:38] <dimitern> dooferlad, nailed it :)
[09:39] <dooferlad> yea, same problem with a 1200px high screen and a 1440px one. It is great fun moving a window from the "big" one to a small one because you lose the bottom.
[09:40] <dimitern> so while it's perfect with 2 screens of the same size (well, and using nvidia drivers, as "Displays" is too dumb to allow the 4K screen to scale to 1920x1080 - it only shows its native res)
[09:41] <dimitern> a full make check takes ~5m now, not 20
[09:41] <dooferlad> :-)
[09:41] <dooferlad> that is about the same speed as my desktop! Nice!
[09:41] <dimitern> yeah - quad core i7 + k2100m gpu
[09:42] <dimitern> the latter I only tried with steam :)
[09:42] <dooferlad> :-)
[09:43] <dimitern> I'll be living the dream - running tests *while* using a HO at full quality :D
[09:59] <voidspace> dimitern: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/3788
[09:59] <dimitern> voidspace, will have a look
[09:59] <voidspace> dimitern: if we want to rebase a feature branch, instead of merge, then we can't just do it as a rebase then merge
[09:59] <voidspace> dimitern: because that ends up being the same as a merge
[09:59] <voidspace> dimitern: but if we want CI tests run then we *have* to do it as a merge
[10:01] <jam> fwereade: standup?
[10:28] <voidspace> dooferlad dimitern: I *think* the rebase is now done on the feature branch
[10:29] <dimitern> voidspace, I'll update and do a make check locally
[10:30] <dimitern> voidspace, has it landed?
[10:31] <voidspace> dimitern: I pushed...
[10:31] <dimitern> voidspace, I can't see any changes
[10:31] <voidspace> dimitern: hmmm...
[10:32] <voidspace> I pushed to upstream/maas-spaces
[10:32] <voidspace> I wonder where that went
[10:32] <dimitern> voidspace, it looks like you pushed voidspace/juju branch maas-spaces-rebase-1
[10:32] <voidspace> dimitern: I already had that
[10:32] <dimitern> voidspace, ah, ok
[10:32] <voidspace> dimitern: that was my initial rebase on Friday
[10:33] <dimitern> voidspace, we as mere devs no longer have direct commit rights for the upstream repo btw
[10:33] <voidspace> I did a fresh fetch --all then checked out upstream/maas-spaces
[10:33] <voidspace> then did a rebase
[10:33] <voidspace> then pushed
[10:33] <voidspace> dimitern: well I did wonder that
[10:33] <voidspace> dimitern: I half expected my push to fail
[10:33] <voidspace> dimitern: if that is indeed the case then we *can't* do a direct rebase, except using the jujubot credentials or via CI doing a merge
[10:33] <voidspace> however the push *appeared* to work
[10:34] <voidspace> but the changes aren't there
[10:34] <dimitern> yeah
[10:34] <dimitern> let's wait for frobware to come back - he has perms
[10:34] <voidspace> cool, he can do it :-)
[10:42] * frobware back with new shiny keyboard... :)
[10:42] <dimitern> frobware, congrats ;)
[10:43] <frobware> dimitern, dooferlad, voidspace, jam: anything to note from the standup?
[10:43] <dimitern> frobware, we need your expertise (and perms) to do the rebase of maas-spaces :)
[10:43] * frobware is struck by how nice a new keyboard feels...
[10:43] <dooferlad> frobware: not unless you count dimiter in HD
[10:43] <dimitern> oh yeah - new laptop, new cam, etc.
[10:43] <frobware> dimitern, all working?
[10:45] <dimitern> frobware, now it is - I had issues mostly around getting the 4K screen to work with my external HD monitor
[10:46] <dimitern> frobware, and I somehow managed to mess up the packages yesterday, so this morning it wasn't booting properly and had to reinstall from the usb
[10:46] <frobware> dimitern, eww
[10:47] <frobware> dimitern, voidspace: rebase to master? I see some chat - what's the redux?
[10:47] <voidspace> frobware: I pushed, it vanished
[10:48] <frobware> voidspace, you pushed to hard... :)
[10:48] <voidspace> frobware: I shouldn't be able to push anyway as mere devs don't have push rights to core repo
[10:48] <voidspace> frobware: probably
[10:48] <voidspace> frobware: upshot is, you have to do it as you have perms and we don't
[10:48] <voidspace> frobware: so we're leaving it to you
[10:48] <frobware> voidspace, and in terms of the rebase we're happy to take whatever is on tip this morning?
[10:49] * frobware will rebase, test, then push
[10:50] <voidspace> frobware: well, I thought putting through CI (and therefore doing a merge not a rebase) was a good idea
[10:51] <voidspace> frobware: however dimitern and dooferlad point out that we need to accept master *anyway*
[10:51] <voidspace> so a rebase is fine
[10:51] <voidspace> with the slight caveat that master currently has tests that fail for me :-(
[10:51] <voidspace> but those are marked as critical and being worked on
[10:52] <frobware> voidspace, shall we choose a different commit for the rebase then?
[10:52] <voidspace> frobware: we could just wait
[10:54] <frobware> voidspace, let's do that; do we urgently need something from master today?
[10:54] <voidspace> frobware: I don't think so, we just don't want to drift too far out of sync.
[11:07] <voidspace> we have a map ordering dependency in a test
[11:07] <voidspace> sometimes it passes, sometimes it fails
[11:07] <voidspace> TestListAllOkay in payload/persistence/env_test.go
[11:14] <voidspace> or a timing issue I guess
[11:17] <frobware> voidspace, that's in maas-spaces, master, somewhere else?
[11:19] <voidspace> frobware: well, I'm looking at my branch
[11:19] <voidspace> frobware: I bet it's on master too - will check
[11:19] <voidspace> frobware: yep, I see it on master too
[11:20] <voidspace> frobware: hard to tell if the ordering is significant
[11:21] <voidspace> frobware: committed by ericsnow in October
[11:21] <frobware> voidspace, I just had successful unit test run on master; was rebasing maas-spaces
[11:23] <voidspace> frobware: it maybe a timing issue, or a wily issue, or something else
[11:23] <voidspace> frobware: but that test fails intermittently for me on master
[11:23] <voidspace> frobware: are you on wily?
[11:24] <frobware> voidspace, nope - trusty
[11:24] <voidspace> right
[11:24] <dimitern> voidspace, I see the same error on wily with go 1.5.1
[11:24] <voidspace> dimitern: I'm using go 1.3.3
[11:24] <voidspace> dimitern: so wily is the common factor
[11:25] <dimitern> voidspace, yeah, seems so - why 1.3.3 btw?
[11:26] <voidspace> dimitern: I built go from source a long while ago
[11:26] <voidspace> dimitern: and have seen no compelling reason to change the version I'm using
[11:26] <voidspace> dimitern: I easily can
[11:27] <dimitern> voidspace, I see
[11:27] <dimitern> voidspace, well, 1.5.1 in wily is slightly faster fwiw
[11:29] <voidspace> cool
[11:29] <voidspace> will switch at some point
[11:38] <fwereade> mattyw, do you recall offhand why api/metricsmanager is using the user-facing ClientFacade stuff?
[11:51] <mattyw> fwereade, I'm about to go afk for 30 mins, happy to talk when I get back
[11:51] <fwereade> mattyw, no rush
[11:52] <mattyw> fwereade, looking at it quickly I suspect it's just bad code - it just needs base.FacadeCaller I think, I'll take a look when I get back an fix it
[11:53] <fwereade> mattyw, no need, I've speculatively hit it already, just wannted to check I wasn't missing something
[12:15] <frobware> voidspace, dooferlad, dimitern: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3206/
[12:16] <voidspace> frobware: but if you merge it as a pull request it will appear as a merge
[12:16] <dimitern> frobware, looking
[12:16] <frobware> dimitern, so it needs pushing to upstream/maas-spaces then?
[12:17] <dimitern> frobware, LGTM
[12:17] <dimitern> frobware, yeah
[12:17] <dimitern> frobware, unless CI can pick it up I guess?
[12:27] <voidspace> dimitern: frobware: if CI picks it up it will be a merge not a rebase
[12:27] <voidspace> if should be pushed to upstream/maas-spaces
[12:39] <rick_h_> wallyworld: still around by chance?
[12:39] <wallyworld> a bit
[12:39] <rick_h_> wallyworld: the series in metadata for core, is that in a feature branch or trunk for 1.26?
[12:39] <wallyworld> was featyre branch, merged in last week
[12:39] <wallyworld> bt ony local so far
[12:39] <wallyworld> still wip
[12:39] <wallyworld> need to add forced overrides
[12:40] <wallyworld> also charm store charms
[12:40] <wallyworld> and subordinates and upgrades
[12:40] <rick_h_> wallyworld: ok cool, do we have a list of items needed to wrap it up on the local side? urulama is close to the store end and I want to make sure we've got a path that ties it into a nice bow for delibery
[12:41] <urulama> rick_h_: had a chat this morning, we have a cunning plan :)
[12:41] <wallyworld> there's the spec which defines the overall. there's no done this, need to do that list
[12:41] <wallyworld> and yes, we did talk about it :-)
[12:41] <rick_h_> urulama: :) ok
[12:43] <urulama> rick_h_: i've written the outline of events in the email, but having an action plan would be great, yes. we'll work on it with wallyworld and probably include cmars as well
[12:44] <rick_h_> urulama: ok ty
[12:44] <wallyworld> action plan for series in metadata?
[12:44] <rick_h_> urulama: wallyworld just want to make sure we've got all the parts in sync and no blockers on getting this 1.26 along with the publish stuff.
[12:45] <urulama> wallyworld: yes, series.
[12:45] <rick_h_> wallyworld: a bit bigger, we've got a proof point of making the juju-gui charm one charm, mutliple series, published with the new development channel work, pushed from our CI infrastructure
[12:45] <wallyworld> ok
[12:46] <wallyworld> rick_h_: this was a huge undertaking for the 1.26 timeframe, so the work will be ongoing till the deadlines
[12:47] <rick_h_> wallyworld: understand, just looking ot make sure there's no dead/blocked time so we can make it. Thanks for the heads up that the current work is in master currently.
[12:47] <wallyworld> sure, np
[12:48] <wallyworld> rick_h_: i plan on advertising this to feature buddies for beta1 when the local use cases should be pretty much done (with --force options, etc)
[12:49] <rick_h_> wallyworld: <3 ty
[12:49] <wallyworld> adding support for charm store charms will not be too much extra from a core perspective after that
[12:50] <rick_h_> wallyworld: right, I was just nervous it was still in feature branch and curious how much it would take to get it merged into master as sometimes that seems to take a bit.
[12:50] <rick_h_> wallyworld: my concerns are all put to bed :) you go enjoy your evening.
[12:50] <wallyworld> rick_h_: it did take a bit, but i've done it already :-)
[12:51] <wallyworld> rick_h_: if you definition of enjoy is working on a series in metadata PR, I will have a ball
[12:51] <urulama> :D
[12:51] <urulama> that's a small PR, wallyworld :)
[12:51] <urulama> checking if that's all that needs to change, now, that's another thing :P
[12:52] <wallyworld> i wish it were simple, this current PR has a lot of touch points
[14:17] <marcoceppi> help please bootstrapping agent-version? http://paste.ubuntu.com/13476900/
[14:25] <voidspace> dooferlad: your branch of gomaasapi on launchpad doesn't currently build
[14:25] <voidspace> dooferlad: do you have a version you can push that does build?
[14:25] <dooferlad> voidspace: In the middle of a change, but give me a few minutes
[14:25] <voidspace> dooferlad: cool - thanks! Let me know when.
[14:25] <dooferlad> voidspace: do you have a build error you can pastebin?
[14:26] <voidspace> dooferlad: obviously doesn't need to be feature complete but I'd like to start using the bits that do work
[14:26] <voidspace> dooferlad: line 101 of testservice.go Space undefined
[14:26] <voidspace> dooferlad: the spaces member of the TestServer is map[uint]Space
[14:27] <dooferlad> voidspace: bother, OK.
[14:27] <voidspace> dooferlad: maybe you forgot to add a file?
[14:27] <dooferlad> voidspace: I purposefully didn't, but clearly I need to.
[14:27] <voidspace> heh
[14:42] <dooferlad> voidspace: give that a go
[14:43] <dooferlad> voidspace: example code: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13477034/
[14:43] <voidspace> dooferlad: "github.com/dooferlad/here"
[14:43] <dooferlad> voidspace: no tests for the newest code, but I hope it compiles.
[14:43] <voidspace> dooferlad: in jsonobject.do
[14:43] <voidspace> *.go
[14:44] <dooferlad> voidspace: Eugh, just delete all here references and you will be fine.
[14:44] <voidspace> dooferlad: ok
[14:45] <voidspace> here is used quite a lot in testservice.go
[14:45] <voidspace> dooferlad: is this because you're developing on github and then pushing to launchpad?
[14:45] <voidspace> or some other hack
[14:46] <voidspace> or is it an error logging package
[14:46] <dooferlad> voidspace: it is my debug data logger library. You can go get github.com/dooferlad/here to make it go away
[14:46] <voidspace> dooferlad: cool, I'll do that
[14:46] <dooferlad> voidspace: it is really quite useful for debugging.
[14:47] <voidspace> dooferlad: yay, builds!
[14:47] <voidspace> dooferlad: and I'll look at your debug logger later :-)
[14:47] <dooferlad> voidspace: yay for building!
[14:47] <dooferlad> voidspace: I will brew tea in celebration!
[14:47] <voidspace> dooferlad: :-)
[14:47] <voidspace> me too I think
[14:58] <mattyw> wwitzel3, ping?
[15:16] <dimitern> voidspace, dooferlad, so apparently p&c fixed the hr site and I'm no longer your manager there :)
[15:17] <dimitern> but cadmin is yet to be fixed, so expense claims still come to me
[15:20] <dooferlad> dimitern: congratulations on having less admin to do!
[15:21] <dimitern> dooferlad, cheers :)
[15:38] <sinzui> dimitern: voidspace Do either of you have a minute to review http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3208/
[15:38] <dimitern> sinzui, LGTM
[15:39] <sinzui> thank you dimitern
[15:56] <dooferlad> voidspace: branch updated
[15:57] <dooferlad> voidspace: minor change in usage. See TestSubnetsInNodes.
[15:59] <mattyw> katco, ping?
[16:00] <natefinch> mattyw: she's out this week
[16:01] <mattyw> natefinch, yeah I only just saw, I pinged before checking the calendar
[16:40] <mup> Bug #1519027 opened: lxd cannot bootstrap with streams <bootstrap> <ci> <lxd-provider> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519027>
[16:55] <mup> Bug #1519027 changed: lxd cannot bootstrap with streams <bootstrap> <ci> <lxd-provider> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519027>
[16:58] <mup> Bug #1519027 opened: lxd cannot bootstrap with streams <bootstrap> <ci> <lxd-provider> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519027>
[17:01] <dooferlad> voidspace, dimitern, frobware: hangout
[17:01] <alexisb> natefinch, you are the only moonstone rep this week correct?
[17:04] <natefinch> alexisb: eric is around more or less this week, but he just moved into a new house over the weekend, so may be in and out.
[17:04] <natefinch> alexisb: otherwise, yes
[17:13] <voidspace> dooferlad: dammit, always catches me by surprise
[17:13] <voidspace> I should check at the start of the day
[18:16] <voidspace> dooferlad: so subnet IDs come in from the test server as integers - which the gomaasapi helpfully turns into float64
[18:16] <voidspace> dooferlad: as far as I can tell this does match what maas itself spits out
[18:16] <voidspace> dooferlad: but it's a mild pain for the code
[18:17] <voidspace> dooferlad: currently it doesn't look like the space name is making it across from the test server though (I'm getting nil back from the json even though the gomaasapi.CreateSubnet has the Space field populated)
[18:48] <voidspace> ericsnow: one of your payload tests fails intermittently on wily
[18:48] <voidspace> ericsnow: maybe a go 1.3+ issue (do you use go 1.2?)
[18:48] <voidspace> ericsnow: and new house?
[18:49] <ericsnow> voidspace: :)
[18:49] <voidspace> :)
[18:49] <ericsnow> voidspace: does it look like #1516541?
[18:49] <mup> Bug #1516541: payload/api/private: tests do not pass <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516541>
[18:49] <voidspace> ericsnow: no
[18:50] <ericsnow> voidspace: k, I'll take a look
[18:50] <voidspace> ericsnow: payload/persistence
[18:50] <ericsnow> voidspace: filed a bug?
[18:50] <voidspace> ericsnow: of course not
[18:50] <ericsnow> voidspace: :)
[18:50] <voidspace> ericsnow: doing it now
[18:51] <ericsnow> voidspace: thanks
[18:52] <voidspace> ericsnow: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1519061
[18:52] <mup> Bug #1519061: payload/persistence intermittent failure <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519061>
[18:52] <ericsnow> voidspace: thanks
[18:53] <voidspace> ericsnow: dimiter sees it too, I use go 1.3 and he uses go 1.5
[18:53] <mup> Bug #1519061 opened: payload/persistence intermittent failure <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519061>
[18:53] <voidspace> ericsnow: we're both on wily
[18:53] <ericsnow> voidspace: k
[18:58] <mup> Bug #1519061 changed: payload/persistence intermittent failure <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519061>
[19:01] <mup> Bug #1519061 opened: payload/persistence intermittent failure <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519061>
[19:04] <mup> Bug #1519061 changed: payload/persistence intermittent failure <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519061>
[19:07] <mup> Bug #1519061 opened: payload/persistence intermittent failure <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519061>
[19:08] <cherylj> frobware: ping?
[19:13] <cherylj> frobware: if you're still around, could you update bug 1516891 with your status?
[19:13] <mup> Bug #1516891: juju 1.25 misconfigures juju-br0 when using MAAS 1.9 bonded interface <juju-core:Triaged by frobware> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516891>
[19:30] <fwereade> waigani, ping
[19:30] <waigani> fwereade: pong
[19:31] <fwereade> waigani, do you know any of the details of how we auth the per-env api connections for the per-env workers?
[19:32] <fwereade> waigani, can controller-machine-0 always log into its own hosted environments? or do they have separate creds or something?
[19:33] <fwereade> waigani, ("I have no idea" is a perfectly reasonable answer, no need to look stuff up if it's not immediately to mind, I'm just looking for a quick answer if it's there)
[19:33] <waigani> fwereade: right, I was digging :)
[19:34] <fwereade> waigani, np, I can dig myself :)
[19:34] <waigani> okay, yeah of the top of my head all I can say is it's a good question. thumper will be on soon. I'll check with him too.
[19:35] <waigani> fwereade: btw I'm polishing off the system kill. Here's the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13468747/
[19:35] <fwereade> waigani, that would be nice, thanks
[19:36] <waigani> and with -v : http://paste.ubuntu.com/13468473/
[19:36] <fwereade> nice :D
[19:36] <fwereade> lovely
[19:36] <waigani> I'm going to add a header and footer message and not count dead environments
[19:36] <fwereade> waigani, yeah, sounds good
[19:36] <waigani> but yeah, it was cool to watch everything go down
[19:37] <fwereade> waigani, very nice indeed
[19:38] <waigani> fwereade: talking with thumper, we thought we'd do the same for environment destroy
[19:39] <waigani> i.e. show the same kind of tapering off status, just with machines and services
[19:39] <fwereade> waigani, <3
[19:40] <fwereade> waigani, soon I'll want it for units per dying service, and units in scope per dying relation :)
[19:41] <waigani> lol
[19:42] <natefinch> fwereade: if you have some time in the next couple days, a review on this would be good... it's the other half of the min version stuff, in the charm repo, with your suggested changes from the other review: https://github.com/juju/charm/pull/176
[19:46] <waigani> fwereade: not sure if this answers your question, but the undertaker worker apiserver endpoint has two auth checks 1. are you a machine agent 2. are you an environment manager
[19:47] <waigani> fwereade: and that worker would be dialing in from machine 0
[19:49] <natefinch> is it just me, or is the help on storage add internally inconsistent? "a comma separated sequence of: POOL, COUNT, and SIZE
[19:50] <natefinch> juju storage add u/0 data=ebs,1024,3
[19:50] <natefinch> ... pretty sure that's not supposed to be 1024 instances of 3 meg storage
[19:53] <natefinch> maybe it's supposed to be 1024M, and the order doesn't actually matter since the formats are all unique? ug...
[20:08] <waigani> fwereade: quick answer is, no separate creds as worker agents only come from inside an environ i.e. already authed
[20:11] <mup> Bug #1519081 opened: help for juju add storage is confusing <storage> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519081>
[20:23] <mup> Bug #1519081 changed: help for juju add storage is confusing <storage> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519081>
[20:26] <mup> Bug #1519081 opened: help for juju add storage is confusing <storage> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519081>
[20:31] <fwereade> natefinch, thanks
[20:50] <mup> Bug #1519095 opened: state: tests to not pass with -race under Go 1.2 <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519095>
[21:02] <cherylj> natefinch: did katco talk to you about bug 1517344?
[21:03] <mup> Bug #1517344: state: initially assigned units don't get storage attachments <bug-squad> <regression> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517344>
[21:14] <mup> Bug #1519097 opened: juju/utils/fslock: data race caused by createAliveFile running twice <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519097>
[21:20] <mup> Bug #1514462 changed: Assertion failure in TestAPI2ResultError <ci> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514462>
[21:23] <mup> Bug #1514462 opened: Assertion failure in TestAPI2ResultError <ci> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514462>
[21:26] <mup> Bug #1514462 changed: Assertion failure in TestAPI2ResultError <ci> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514462>
[21:29] <mup> Bug #1514462 opened: Assertion failure in TestAPI2ResultError <ci> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514462>
[21:32] <davechen1y> for misses := 0; misses < 0; misses++ {
[21:32] <davechen1y> let's count to 2^63
[21:41] <mup> Bug #1514462 changed: Assertion failure in TestAPI2ResultError <ci> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514462>
[21:47] <fwereade> thumper, thank you for the excellent comments in apiserver/admin.go, they were exactly what I needed to know
[21:47] <thumper> :)
[21:56] <davechen1y> logger.Debugf("Failed to replace lock, giving up: (%s)", err)
[21:56] <davechen1y> fatal error logged at debug
[21:59] <fwereade> menn0, apiserver/apiserver.go:321 -- we don't statePool.Close until after the tomb.Done
[22:00] <fwereade> menn0, is there a reason? I'd usually expect a tomb.Kill(statePool.Close()) *before* the done
[22:00] <menn0> fwereade: probably a think-o
[22:00] * menn0 checks code
[22:02] <menn0> fwereade: I remember soon after the StatePool work went in there were panics due to the StatePool being closed too soon
[22:03] <menn0> fwereade: tomb.Kill(statePool.Close()) before the done seems right to me
[22:03] <fwereade> menn0, ok, interesting, I will take care around there :)
[22:04] <fwereade> menn0, I would hope that the wg.Wait would be enough to get the apiserver's mitts off it
[22:04] <menn0> fwereade: yeah, that should be enough
[22:04] <menn0> fwereade: it's possible I initially had the defers the wrong way around or something
[22:04] <fwereade> menn0, ah yeah :)
[22:04] <fwereade> menn0, thanks
[22:05] <menn0> fwereade: I think originally all the cleanups were separate defer lines
[22:05] <menn0> not trusting my memory too much though
[22:05] <fwereade> menn0, ha, yeah, there's something rather off about that sort of construct
[22:11] <mup> Bug #1510952 changed: Upgrades broken in 1.22 tip <blocker> <ci> <regression> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Won't Fix> <juju-core 1.22:Won't Fix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1510952>
[23:30] <alexisb> thumper, wallyworld I am going to be a bit late for our next call
[23:30] <wallyworld> ok
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[22:42] <Eclix> Does anybody have any ideas as to why USB ports wouldn't work on newer hardware on Edubuntu clients? I have several labs running but have had to purchase new hardware and everything is working well except for the USB keyboard and mouse.
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[00:00] <d^_^b_> hello
[00:01] <d^_^b_> someone can help me to install ubuntu-touch in samsung galaxy tab 2 7" (p3100)? thanks
[00:08] <dobey> ghosalmartin: we don't have builds on top of 5 yet even.
[00:08] <dobey> !devices | d^_^b_
[00:09] <ghosalmartin> i assume you guys use libhybris?
[00:15] <k1l_> ghosalmartin: iirc yes
[00:16] <ghosalmartin> k1l_ how do you guys inject it into the android build?
[00:20] <k1l_> ghosalmartin: see this for a start: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ContainerArchitecture
[00:21] <k1l_> or this is somewhat more detailed http://elinux.org/images/c/cf/Ubuntu_Touch_Internals_1.pdf
[00:26] <ghosalmartin> ah I see
[00:32] <d^_^b_> thank you dobey
[00:32] <d^_^b_> i've found this one but the links doesn't works
[00:40] * JanC wonders why ubuntu-sdk-ide _requires_ SQLite, Postgres, MySQL, ODBC *and* Sybase/MSSQL database drivers...
[05:23] <mac_> Hello guys
[05:24] <mac_> Currently working on poritng ubuntu touch device on my hd2... Our device doesnt have standard recovery and installs everything on partition sdcard instead of nand
[05:25] <mac_> I have already built a system.img using phablet_4.4.2 for my device and also patched the kernel.
[05:27] <mac_> I want to know how can I flash the preinstall-tar.gz (vivid or xenial) and the system.img , if adb on my recovery is not working
[06:25] <Querty> Testing
[07:29] <dholbach> good morning
[10:17] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Fibonacci Day! 😃
[10:19] <jgdx> seb128, re: bug 1518732, what's wrong? I assume I misused i18n.tr
[10:20] <seb128> jgdx, the template parser doesn't like single quote for some reason
[10:20] <seb128> '...' -> not good
[10:20] <seb128> "..." -> good
[10:20] <seb128> and you put those strings in single quote
[10:20] <jgdx> oh man, okay
[10:20] <jgdx> seb128, thanks
[10:20] * jgdx creates a precommit check for that
[10:22] <seb128> jgdx, yw
[10:22] <seb128> we should look if that can be fixed, or caught by CI
[10:43] <jgdx> seb128, I found some tr errors in ApnEditor as well, using the script. Do you want a branch or will you fix them as well?
[10:44] <seb128> jgdx, well I didn't look at those yet, I was going to grep for "i18n.tr('" and fix everything list
[10:44] <seb128> but if you are already on it feel free to do the change and mp it
[10:45] <jgdx> seb128, okay, I can do it.
[10:46] <seb128> thanks
[11:09] <ahayzen> Hi, does anyone else get a rather large stutter in the UI, on mako, when an application is suspend/closed ?
[11:15] <davmor2> I take the overwhelming silence to mean no ;)
[11:17] <ahayzen> :(
[11:18] <jgdx> ahayzen, I have a mako on ota8. How do I repro that?
[11:19] <ahayzen> jgdx, open multiple apps, say the browser and music... switch from browser to music and scroll up/down the list ~2second after switching when the app is suspended you see a stutter
[11:19] <ahayzen> or a similar thing when an application is closed
[11:21] <ahayzen> or even just scrolling up/down the scopes
[11:22] <jgdx> ahayzen, I see it. Could you file that? Maybe against the canonical-devices-system-image proj
[11:23] <ahayzen> jgdx, yup :-) and maybe qtmir? i'm not sure what actual project to blame
[11:23] <jgdx> me neither
[11:23] <ahayzen> do you have a bq/mx4 to try on asw ell?
[11:23] <ahayzen> *as well
[11:27] <ahayzen> jgdx, i've reported bug 1518935, i'm going at ask in the mir channel if they think it could be in that part of the platform
[11:29] <jgdx> ahayzen, thanks
[11:39] <Mirv> attente: hey! the new maliit-framework looks great otherwise but it seems you missed the ubuntu12 upload of the old version - could you restore the patch 0015 required for Qt 5.5? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/220408536/maliit-framework_0.99.0%2Bgit20130923%2B17fdf86-0ubuntu11~gcc5.1_0.99.0%2Bgit20130923%2B17fdf86-0ubuntu12.diff.gz
[11:40] <Mirv> attente: (I saw the changelog entry for ubuntu12 being removed from the new upload)
[11:44] <om26er_> jgdx, Hi!
[11:44] <jgdx> om26er_, yo
[11:45] <om26er_> jgdx, is there an ofono script to change active data connection SIM on a dual sim device ?
[11:46] <om26er_> jgdx, in my test, I want to switch data connection from SIM2 to SIM1 for example
[11:46] <jgdx> om26er_, yeah, the script I gave you, but you have to supply the script the paths
[11:46] <jgdx> so disable-gprs /ril_0 && enable-gprs /ril_1
[11:47] <jgdx> paths you can get from dbus or the other ofono scripts (list-modems)
[11:48] <om26er_> jgdx, thanks, that should do it
[12:10] <Mirv> attente: ignore the earlier, I looked at the new code the wrong way, it seems the patch is yet another that can be dropped (but the changelog entry was indeed accidentally removed)
[12:23] <davmor2> mpt: Hey dude I have a designy issue. Settings→Sound there is a slider that is under the title Ringer but that is just a volume control and not specific to the ringer right?
[12:26] <mpt> davmor2, that’s bug 1396986. The slider label should change to reflect what it is currently changing the volume of, but that should be output devices, not roles.
[12:26] <davmor2> mpt: ah nice thanks
[12:27] <davmor2> mpt: also any movement on changing about phone to something other than phone when it isn't on a phone
[12:27] <mpt> no
[13:43] <attente> Mirv: ah, ok, thanks. i'll do it now
[13:45] <attente> Mirv: is there a better packaging branch that is synched with what's most recent in archive?
[13:56] <attente> dholbach: hey, Mirv pointed out that i missed this changelog entry: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/220408536/maliit-framework_0.99.0+git20130923+17fdf86-0ubuntu11~gcc5.1_0.99.0+git20130923+17fdf86-0ubuntu12.diff.gz. is it still possible for me to fix it?
[14:02] <dholbach> attente, I uploaded it already -- it could be retractively added with the next upload?
[14:03] <crypted> The changelog link does not seem to give alot of info. Do any of you guys know when native VOIP features will be introduced to Ubuntu-Phone OS?
[14:07] <attente> dholbach: should we do another upload now to fix it? or should we wait to the next release? i'm not sure what the process is here, and i'm not sure any more if there's a bzr branch that is up-to-date with archive. i'm also not sure if anyone will remember to do it when the next release is ready...
[14:09] <dholbach> attente, Mirv: I'm not sure I understand... is the branch which I uploaded from not up to date with archive?
[14:09] <attente> dholbach: apparently that branch was missing a changelog entry from wily
[14:10] <attente> so it seems not...
[14:10] <attente> it was also missing a patch, but that was already merged upstream so wasn't needed any more
[14:14] <attente> dholbach: i guess i'll just update that branch anyways since it seems most up-to-date, and we can just merge, but not upload it so we don't forget
[14:19] <dholbach> ok, cool
[14:22] <Mirv> attente: possibly there's no up-to-date packaging branch or something.
[14:22] <Mirv> dholbach: ^
[14:23] <Mirv> attente: dholbach: anyway, the patch was already in upstream so basically just changelog entry deleted
[14:23] <attente> Mirv: ok, so the problem is worse than just the one changelog entry. i missed a bunch of changes comparing it to what's in wily
[14:24] <attente> Mirv: the debdiff is pretty big, i'm not sure if most of these changes were integrated upstream though
[14:25] <attente> i guess i have to comb through the entire thing to get the branch up-to-date
[14:33] <ncls> hi all, I need to install Android on my Ubuntu Phone (was a good experience, but I need Android for dev purpose) two questions : is it possible from Mac OSX ? at which moment should we press the "download" button like on this tutorial ? http://a25.co/ubuntu-phone-how-to-install-android/
[14:33] <ncls> I tried to do it from a VM on my Mac but it didn't seem to work
[14:35] <dobey> ncls: you should contact bq support for help with that i guess. the mediatek tool is only available for windows or linux though i think.
[14:35] <ncls> dobey: ok I will, thank you
[14:35] <ncls> just wanted to know if it was possible without this tool
[14:36] <ncls> but they might know that too
[14:36] <dobey> no, the tool is required for mediatek based phones
[14:42] <ncls> ok thank you dobey
[14:45] <Mirv> attente: ah, ok, well good to check then the others
[14:50] <Saviq> morphis, hey, I found an issue with BT transmitting the network name to my car kit - I've two sims in the BQ phone (one a left over from a trip), and one of them is offline due to lack of roaming and the car says "No network", even though my main card is fine, not really sure how to solve this as I imagine the profiles used don't understand multi SIM
[14:50] <Saviq> but I'd like to file a bug for future's sake
[14:55] <morphis> Saviq: thas is kown and will be fixed soon
[14:55] <morphis> basically ofono picks the first modem it finds currently
[14:56] <morphis> Saviq: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/1418040
[14:57] <Saviq> morphis, ah good, thanks :)
[14:57] <Saviq> morphis, what if there's no default modem? :D
[14:57] <morphis> Saviq: there will be one
[14:57] <morphis> that is what we're currently changing
[14:58] <Saviq> morphis, I mean that the user might've selected "ask me every time"
[14:58] <Saviq> oh, and also, I didn't get a call history entry I think when I used the car kit to dial
[14:59] <morphis> Saviq: also known: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/1479442
[15:00] <morphis> Saviq: ask me every time is currently not considered but would be a pure UI decision
[15:00] <Saviq> morphis, no no, I meant that the *phone* app didn't show a call I placed with the car kit
[15:00] <morphis> Saviq: ah
[15:00] <morphis> interesting, can you file a bug for that?
[15:00] <Saviq> will do
[15:01] <Saviq> unfortunately my car kit is old enough that I never found a phone that could share any meaningful data with it
[15:02] <morphis> Saviq: and can you include a syslog with debug information?
[15:02] <morphis> Saviq: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingBluetooth
[15:03] <morphis> that would be pretty great
[15:03] <Saviq> morphis, will try and repro and file if I do
[15:04] <Elleo> o
[15:04] <Elleo> oops
[15:10] <morphis> Saviq: can you file one for the netreg thing too?
[15:20] <Saviq> morphis, netreg? you mean "no network" in the car kit?
[15:21] <slvn_> Hello, some question .. on Ubuntu Touch, qtbase is compiled with which "platform" directory ?
[15:22] <pmcgowan> Mirv, ^
[15:24] <dobey> slvn_: there is no ubuntu touch, there is only ubuntu
[15:25] <dobey> the qt5 on the phone isn't a "special build." it is the standard ubuntu qt5 build with the same build options as everywhere
[15:26] <slvn_> dobey, I mean on ubuntu for phones/tablet.
[15:26] <slvn_> maybe my question is not well asked .. I explain
[15:26] <dobey> slvn_: i mean, ubuntu is ubuntu
[15:27] <slvn_> my app is based on mir, and, even in fullscreen, it displays the status bar
[15:27] <dobey> i don't know what the "platform" directory you're referring to is specifically, but there isn't a special build of qt5 for phones. it is the standard qt5 build for armhf that's in ubuntu
[15:27] <slvn_> but, camera-app, for instance does not display the status bar
[15:27] <dobey> you mean the top panel of unity8?
[15:28] <slvn_> maybe ... not sure of the name .. the top bar
[15:28] <dobey> the one with the radio/battery/sound indicators?
[15:28] <slvn_> yes
[15:29] <dobey> how are you doing full screen in your app?
[15:29] <dobey> your app shouldn't be using mir directly, btw
[15:29] <slvn_> yes, but this is a C++ app, calling mir function
[15:30] <slvn_> using sdl2, which calls mir ..
[15:30] <dobey> well sdl2 has a mir backend, but you are not calling mir directly in your app are you?
[15:30] <slvn_> no
[15:30] <dobey> ok
[15:30] <slvn_> but I double check the mir stuff to make stuff the correct calls were done
[15:31] <tvoss> slvn_, you want to check with bschaefer for requesting full screen
[15:31] <tvoss> slvn_, he did the sdl2-mir backend mostly
[15:31] <dobey> yeah
[15:31] <slvn_> tvoss, i know i will ask him later
[15:32] <slvn_> but I am looking at the camera-app
[15:32] <slvn_> to understand how it goes fullscreen
[15:33] <slvn_> it seem to call qml/qt stuff and, if i am correct, the corresponding packages are : qtdeclarative-opensource-src and qtbase-opensource-src
[15:34] <tvoss> slvn_, that's very unlikely, as qt would only call mir, too
[15:34] <tvoss> slvn_, for the respective qt-mir interaction: lp:qtmir
[15:35] <slvn_> tvoss, ok so I look the wrong package, thanks !
[15:37] <tvoss> slvn_, yw
[15:42] <Mirv> slvn_: all platform plugins are available, you can see them with eg qmlscene -platform test. on the phone, mirserver and libubuntuclient are installed (from qtmir/qtubuntu) in addition to the normal qtbase upstream ones (which include eglfs, kms, linuxfb, miminalegl etc)
[15:44] <mcphail> slvn_: SDL apps can go fullscreen too
[15:48] <slvn_> Mirv, not sure I expressed correctly. I end up on qtbase-opensource-src/src/plugins/platforms/ and there was many platforms (android, coca, direct2d, winrt, etc..) not sure there are all need on a ubuntu device. but it seems I was looking at the wrong place. and I am currently looking into lp:qtmir
[15:49] <slvn_> mcphail, hi, I know but it does not go to full-screen. there is still the top status bar !
[15:49] <mcphail> slvn_: you can get proper fullscreen
[15:49] <mcphail> slvn_: (I just can't remember how at this second)
[15:50] <mcphail> I think apps which use SDL2's virtual resolution approach get true fullscreen
[15:51] <mcphail> IIRC, Neverball/neverputt get fullscreen. You could have a look at their code
[15:53] <Mirv> slvn_: right, that's the place. upstream Qt 5.6 now has mirclient plugin there too, and mirserver is in a branch, but in our Qt 5.4 production code the plugins come from lp:qtmir and lp:qtubuntu
[15:54] <mcphail> slvn_: good work on your games, btw. Have you uploaded any to the store?
[15:54] <Mirv> slvn_: lp:qtubuntu is the libmirclient one which probably apps would use
[15:54] <slvn_> mcphail, currently, I have no phone ... but that would be great if you could check Neverball app to see if there is the statusbar ..
[15:55] <mcphail> slvn_: I'll check when I get home and on to wifi
[15:57] <slvn_> Mirv, yes lp:qtubuntu is more interesting ! it does the translation Qt:WindowFullScreen to mir_surface_state_fullscreen
[15:58] <dobey> https://uappexplorer.com/app/neverball.lb
[15:58] <dobey> screenshot there doesn't show the unity8 panel
[15:59] <popey> slvn_, neverball and neverputt are proper full screen
[15:59] <swex> hi there
[16:00] <swex> googling for a while and can't get answer: how to instlal ubuntu-touch on x86 tablet?
[16:01] <slvn_> popey, dobey ... you tried it on a ubuntu phone ?
[16:01] <popey> yes
[16:01] <slvn_> do you where i can see the code ?
[16:02] <popey> https://github.com/pseuudonym404/neverball-touch
[16:02] <mcphail> slvn_: I _think_ you get true fullscreen if you use SDL_WINDOW_FULLSCREEN_DESKTOP
[16:03] <mcphail> slvn_: that's the kind of virtual-resolution fullscreen which came in with SDL2
[16:04] * mcphail needs to check if this still holds true since we got platform-level orientation
[16:04] <dobey> !devices | swex
[16:05] <swex> dobey: nothing related to x86 found :(
[16:05] <dobey> swex: right, so you'd need to port to your device
[16:06] <swex> dobey: ok,but what is that? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/
[16:06] <dobey> swex: if it's a windows tablet, it's probably going to be more difficult to port, at least.
[16:07] <dobey> the daily-preinstalled tarball is the base image the device-specific images are built from
[16:07] <slvn_> mcphail, you might be right ... I use SDL_WINDOW_FULLSCREEN, whereas neverball-touch use SDL_WINDOW_FULLSCREEN_DESKTOP ..
[16:08] <pixel_> slvn_, you are using SDL2 right?
[16:08] <slvn_> but that would be really weird that the method named setFullScreen is not called with SDL_WINDOW_FULLSCREEN
[16:08] <slvn_> pixel_, yes
[16:09] <pixel_> slvn_, how do you load images?
[16:10] <slvn_> pixel_, with SDL2_image ... but this is more a sdl question ...
[16:11] <pixel_> slvn_, if so the the sdl2 extensions are also available SDL_image, SDL_ttf, and SDL_mixer etc
[16:11] <pixel_> slvn_, yeah.. i was just curious :D
[16:11] <mcphail> slvn_: SDL_WINDOW_FULLSCREEN_DESKTOP is much nicer anyway
[16:11] <pixel_> not related to the fullscreen question
[16:12] <slvn_> pixel_, yes I cross compile sdl2 image/ttf/mixer !
[16:12] <mcphail> slvn_: although I don't know how well touch events translate with SDL_WINDOW_FULLSCREEN_DESKTOP
[16:13] <pixel_> slvn_, do you know what is available on the phone? do you have to put all the sdl and extension into a click?
[16:13] <pixel_> slvn_, or are already available on the phone
[16:13] <mcphail> pixel_: you need to bundle everything
[16:13] <pixel_> ewww
[16:13] <mcphail> pixel_: it is the future :)
[16:13] <pixel_> yeah :D
[16:14] <slvn_> mcphail, I am still very sceptical about the SDL_WINDOW_FULLSCREEN_DESKTOP. I mean, if someone want to test, I can rebuilt quickly an app !
[16:14] <mcphail> slvn_: I'm happy to have a look this evening
[16:14] <mcphail> slvn_: remember that you set a virtual resolution in SDL_WINDOW_FULLSCREEN_DESKTOP, though
[16:15] <slvn_> pixel_, yes all rebundled ... but whatever is working on android, ios, tvos, winrt, macosx, linux, now work on ubuntu device
[16:16] <pixel_> slvn_, that's nice.. so i just download sdl2 https://www.libsdl.org/download-2.0.php and compile it with mir support?
[16:16] <pixel_> slvn_, what ide are you using? qt creator?
[16:19] <slvn_> pixel_, .. I cross compiled it, so I set up a partial chroot .. no ide, I have a couple of script to rebuild everything from scratch
[16:19] <slvn_> actually, the script for the partial chroot comes from mir
[16:20] <popey> slvn_, I have a few devices, happy to test
[16:21] <pixel_> slvn_, i see, thanks :P
[16:22] <slvn_> mcphail, Mirv, I am still sceptical about the flags with _DESKTOP :) ... though I saw a difference between lp:qtubuntu and SDL2/mir backend. lp:qtubuntu is doing a "mir_wait_for(mir_surface_set_set_state(fullscreen))" whereas SDL2 is not doing that ...
[16:25] <tvoss> slvn_, mcphail best to report to bschaefer, I'm not sure where we track bugs for the sdl2 backend
[16:25] <Mirv> greyback_: see possible slvn_:s questions regarding lp:qtubuntu etc, although mainly he's about improving the sdl2 backend apparently and just looking for tips from lp:qtubuntu
[16:26] <mcphail> yes, would be nice if both FULLSCREEN approaches gave true fullscreen
[16:27] <slvn_> tvoss, Mirv dont worry I let this know to bschafer ..
[16:28] <Mirv> slvn_: oh, ok
[16:29] <bschaefer> yeah i dont do that
[16:30] <bschaefer> but theres no reason i dont ...
[16:30] <slvn_> popey, told me there is still the status bar with _DESKTOP
[16:30] <slvn_> I will try to patch SDL2/mir with a wait_for like in lp:qtubuntu
[16:31] <bschaefer> i dont think that will solve that issue since it become fullscreen
[16:31] <bschaefer> at some point
[16:31] * bschaefer didnt read the backlog
[16:32] <greyback_> slvn_: that is the correct way to set the fullscreen flag on a mir surface yes. It should cause the unity8 panel to go away
[16:32] <mcphail> bschaefer: SDL_WINDOW_FULLSCREEN_DESKTOP seems to give proper fullscreen
[16:32] <bschaefer> mcphail, well setting that?
[16:32] <slvn_> mcphail, no, even with SDL_WINDOW_FULLSCREEN_DESKTOP, there is still the status bar ..
[16:32] <bschaefer> for the touch to remove the toolbar?
[16:33] <bschaefer> IIRC greyback_ told me about setting things to fullscreen and the toolbar when away in my example
[16:33] <bschaefer> but that was like ... 6 or so months ago
[16:33] <mcphail> slvn_: really? Wonder what makes the difference then. All my SDL_WINDOW_FULLSCREEN_DESKTOP test apps went proper fullscreen
[16:33] <slvn_> on my app .. but not on neverball it seems there is not status. but neverball is not using SDL_Renderer, it use direct call to egl
[16:34] <mcphail> slvn_: have you used SDL_RenderSetLogicalSize?
[16:35] <morphis> Saviq: exactly
[16:38] <pixel_> slvn_, what is this? https://code.launchpad.net/~brandontschaefer/+junk/SDL2-new-mir-ABI
[16:39] <bschaefer> thats the branch to move to the newer mir ABI/API
[16:39] <bschaefer> (moving to 0.15 and greater)
[16:39] <bschaefer> pixel_, cant sync those changes with upstream SDL2 until ubuntu LTS
[16:39] <bschaefer> (since thats what SDL2 aims for) with out a very ugly patch :)
[16:41] <pixel_> bschaefer, oh i see :D thanks
[16:42] <mcphail> slvn_: This is the code I use to bring up SDL in a little pong game which show up as true fullscreen - http://paste.ubuntu.com/13477772/
[16:42] <bschaefer> np!
[16:44] <slvn_> mcphail, I dont use Render Logical .. but I could ... but that should not make any difference
[16:45] <mcphail> slvn_: that's what SDL_WINDOW_FULLSCREEN_DESKTOP expects
[16:46] <mcphail> slvn_: you let SDL fill the desktop and give you a logical surface on top
[16:46] <mcphail> slvn_: with letterboxing as needed
[16:50] * mcphail suspects you can coerce SDL_WINDOW_FULLSCREEN to do the same thing if the resolution is set to include the statusbar area
[16:59] <slvn_> mcphail, I have build a game that use logical size, will see if it goes full screen ...
[16:59] * mcphail crosses fingers
[17:00] <ryao> Where do the Kubuntu mobile guys hang out?
[17:03] <pixel_> Steam provides both SDL 1.2 and 2.0 in this manner, for both x86 and amd64, in addition to several add-on libraries like SDL_mixer. When shipping a Linux game on Steam, do not ship a build of SDL with your game. Link against SDL as normal, and expect it to be available on the player's system. This allows Valve to make fixes and improvements to their SDL and those fixes to flow on to your game.
[17:03] * pixel_ like steam
[17:05] <mcphail> pixel_: that's why steam breaks with open source drivers
[17:06] <dobey> mcphail: steam works fine on intel
[17:06] <mcphail> dobey: you have to kill steam's libc++ with nouveau and radeon
[17:07] <mcphail> runtimes can be evil
[17:07] <dobey> gcc is evil
[17:07] <dobey> i presume you're talking about on 15.04 or 15.10?
[17:08] <mcphail> I've had problems on 15.04 and 15.10. Not sure if I used open source drivers on 14.04
[17:08] <dobey> steam doesn't support those releases
[17:08] <mcphail> yep
[17:08] <dobey> well, 15.10 has gcc5, which is a problem, and 15.04 has gcc 4.9, which is binary incompat with 4.8, which 14.04 has
[17:08] <dobey> and steam only officially supports LTS
[17:09] <dobey> i just stay with LTS for my production host OS, and use contains for building on newer releases for development
[17:09] <mcphail> and an unsupported runtime is worse than no runtime at all
[17:10] <dobey> i don't know if steam even officially supports 14.04. they might still only support 12.04 officially
[17:11] <mcphail> I think the games list 14.04 in the requirements, so I assume it is supported. But the open source drivers on 14.04 are poor for gaming, so it is a catch 22
[17:11] <timppa_> hello!
[17:11] <timppa_> I've been struggling lately with Nexus 7 deb
[17:12] <mcphail> deb?
[17:12] <timppa_> mcphail LTE version of Nexus 7
[17:12] <mcphail> aah
[17:13] <mcphail> timppa_: not sure if that is a supported device
[17:13] <dobey> deb is not officially supported
[17:13] <timppa_> there is http://system-image.tasemnice.eu which hosts the deb images as well
[17:13] <dobey> and tassadar is in the wind
[17:14] <timppa_> lately those images stopped working
[17:14] <dobey> and i have no idea how to set up a similar image server
[17:14] <timppa_> I managed to build my own version of the android bits and now the new images work again.
[17:14] <timppa_> I'd like to create an image server but I don't know how
[17:15] <dobey> mcphail: you can try the lts backport kernel/xorg and it might work better. my main issue is getting 4K@60Hz working properly on intel
[17:15] <dobey> i'm happy to host an image server
[17:15] <dobey> and i have infinite bandwidth/storage for it
[17:15] <timppa_> dobey: do you know how to create one?
[17:15] <dobey> i just don't know how to get the scripting set up to do it right
[17:16] <dobey> but i need to figure out how
[17:16] <dobey> because my phone badly needs updates
[17:16] <timppa_> which phone you have?
[17:18] <dobey> nexus 5
[17:18] <timppa_> Btw, anyone happen to know if 16.04 images/rootfs has the new bluez as well?
[17:18] <dobey> afaik it does
[17:18] <timppa_> dobey: so you have the same issue that the new images do not boot anymore?
[17:18] <dobey> but afaik, xenial images are known broken at the moment
[17:19] <dobey> timppa_: no, i don't use devel-proposed because it breaks
[17:19] <dobey> i have an image that mariogrip made and put on his server, but i don't think he's built any more images since
[17:19] <timppa_> ok, I just flashed the latest xenial image and it seems to run but "deb" still has the issue that bluetooth does not work
[17:19] <dobey> and i don't think he cares to maintain builds for other devices
[17:20] <dobey> oh, there is a new image there, yay
[17:20] <dobey> but only has stable channel
[17:21] <timppa_> I have Nexus 4 and the LTE version of Nexus 7, I cannot test N5.. :(
[17:22] <timppa_> So the reason I'd like to create my own image server is to use 15.10 release train and not 16.04.
[17:22] <timppa_> If someone could share the knowlegde :D
[17:23] <mcphail> timppa_: 15.10 isn't in use, afaik
[17:23] <mcphail> timppa_: wily has been skipped
[17:23] <popey> yeah, we're not using 15.10
[17:23] <timppa_> 15.04 then ;D
[17:23] <dobey> timppa_: you shouldn't be using devel-proposed anyway
[17:26] <timppa_> never had that many issues on devel-proposed on any of the devices
[17:27] <cwayne1> has anyone had issues with mx4 on ota8 where the battery indicator is wrong?
[17:27] <slvn_> mcphail, SetLogicalSize does not improves, there is still the status bar ..
[17:28] <slvn_> mcphail, bschaefer, somethings strange, MIR_SetFullScreen is always call with fullscreen=0, so it disable fullscreen ... But even forcing fullscreen it is not hiding the status bar
[17:35] <dobey> timppa_: devel-proposed gets basically no QA and is known to possibly break. it's not currently 1:1 with what's in rc-proposed, either, in terms of features.
[17:37] <timppa_> dobey: I know, I've been rather quietly been watching the development of things since UT was announced
[17:38] <timppa_> is there any way to sideload the vivid-preinstalled-touch-armhf.tar.gz on a device?
[17:39] <slvn_> Mirv, tvoss, bschaefer, in fact, ignore my previous remark about "mir_wait_for", SDL2 use the API mir_surface_set_spec_set, whereas lp:qtubuntu use the one withou "_spec_" ... so the mir_wait_for was not relevant .. sorry
[17:43] <slvn_> mcphail, bschaefer, I have done many tries of application with popey and we got a solution for the statusbar bug. well it's not a solution, but a way to get it working
[17:43] <bschaefer> nice, i've not gotten the time to look at that issue :(
[17:43] <popey> \o/
[17:44] * popey is busy playing tic-tac-toe
[17:44] * popey loves his job
[17:44] <slvn_> the call "MIR_mir_surface_apply_spec(mir_window->surface, spec);" seem not to perform well
[17:44] <slvn_> but "MIR_mir_wait_for(MIR_mir_surface_set_state(mir_window->surface,state));" was working better
[17:45] <slvn_> it's not a fix .. but it points something wrong ...
[17:46] <tty> silly question - can ubuntu 'phone os' be installed on mobiles such as samsung s6 etc?
[17:46] <bschaefer> slvn_, hmm the only issue i can think of is the spec that was created applied to the surface?
[17:46] * bschaefer thought it was
[17:46] <slvn_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13478383/
[17:46] <bschaefer> slvn_, also im pretty sure that function is deprecated :(
[17:48] <bschaefer> looks like it is... slvn_ i mean the wait_for isnt needed? If you remove that ... it should still work
[17:48] <bschaefer> with the old function
[17:48] <bschaefer> slvn_, you check the state of the window as well?
[17:48] <bschaefer> after a little bit (after the apply) to see if its fullscreen?
[17:48] <bschaefer> (with the set spec)
[17:49] <tty> oo.. see it's available for nexus devices... is ubuntu touch the same as ubuntu phone...?
[17:50] <mcphail> slvn_: this is brilliant work, getting to the bottom of all of this. If we get this fixed I might even be able to read the text on my version of Baldur's Gate :)
[17:53] <slvn_> bschaefer, I am on the phone, please let me know how to check the validity of surface
[17:54] <bschaefer> slvn_, mir_surface_get_state(surface1) == mir_surface_state_fullscreen
[17:54] <bschaefer> pretty much
[17:55] <bschaefer> but you've to wait for some amount of time (since it has to go through the IPC to the server and actually update the surface that its fullscreen)
[17:55] <bschaefer> before it *should* tell you that it is indeed fullscreen
[17:55] <bschaefer> slvn_, you can just add a print statement in the event loop
[17:55] <bschaefer> so you can press a key to get the current state of the surface
[17:55] <bschaefer> (when a key is pressed or w/e)
[17:57] <mac_> During boot up of ported ubuntu, upon executing "mount -o loop,rw /tmpmnt/system.img ${rootmnt}"
[17:57] <mac_> I get this in last/kmsg "EXT4-fs (loop0): bad geometry: block count 652288 exceeds size of device (573440 blocks)"
[17:57] <mac_> my partition size is 7GB and system.img is 2.6GB
[17:57] <mac_> What am I doing wrong?
[18:00] <mac_> Also How do I view irc ubuntu-touch logs? to view if anyone answered my question yesterday
[18:02] <ahayzen> mac_, this would be yesterday's log http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/22/%23ubuntu-touch.txt
[18:16] <slvn_> bschaefer, I have updated with this code ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/13478688/
[18:17] <bschaefer> slvn_, i ment to check using the set spec way
[18:17] <bschaefer> as if the surface is getting fullscreen
[18:17] <bschaefer> then it would be qtmir
[18:17] * bschaefer will have to look at it at some point
[18:17] <bschaefer> slvn_, as i've used the set spec for fullscreen before
[18:17] <bschaefer> and im not sure why the tool bar doesnt go away in this case
[18:18] <slvn_> I should remove the "no_spec" also ?
[18:21] <bschaefer> slvn_, o sorry mis read
[18:21] <bschaefer> the issue with that, is it takes some time (milliseconds)
[18:21] <bschaefer> to change, but your log is right after the change
[18:21] <bschaefer> soo it'll be false
[18:21] <bschaefer> but will be true in a few milliseconds
[18:22] <slvn_> ok !
[18:32] <mac_> If someone would kindly explain difference between "bootmode=ubuntu" and "bootmode=android"
[18:32] <mac_> in initrd /script/touch we have "# Our current list of supported boot modes: ## BOOT_MODE = ubuntu and android"
[18:32] <mac_> any expert can explain?
[18:35] <dobey> mac_: i'm not an expert, but my first guess would be that ubuntu boots into ubuntu, and android boots into only the android container with none of the ubuntu services
[18:41] <slvn_> bschaefer, log+code http://paste.ubuntu.com/13478971/
[18:42] <slvn_> there is the status bar, and it does not report fullscreen
[18:42] <slvn_> btw, there is always the Force to ON .. see the code
[19:00] <Paddy_NI> I want to put Ubuntu Touch back on my bq Aquaris E4.5 and was wondering which channel will get me the latest build?
[19:00] <Paddy_NI> popey: Which build do you use?
[19:00] <popey> depends
[19:00] <popey> i have more than one device :)
[19:01] <Paddy_NI> Ah yes you also have the MX4
[19:01] <Paddy_NI> Lovely
[19:01] <popey> ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en is what I run on my most used bq phone
[19:01] <popey> which updates ~daily
[19:01] <Paddy_NI> Cool
[19:01] <Paddy_NI> Thanks :-)
[19:01] <popey> if it's your second device then that's a good idea
[19:01] <popey> if it's your primary device I'd use the stable channel
[19:01] <Paddy_NI> Absolutely, I think that is what I had on it before
[19:11] <Paddy_NI> popey: I had previously flashed it with the stock E4.5 version of android so I am a little unsure as to how to flash this back to Ubuntu
[19:12] <Paddy_NI> I did "sudo ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en --bootstrap recovery-krillin.img" whilst in fastboot mode
[19:12] <Paddy_NI> Device KRILLIN not found on server https://system-image.ubuntu.com channel ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en
[19:15] <popey> Paddy_NI, there's an askubuntu Q&A about this... one mo
[19:15] <popey> http://askubuntu.com/questions/602035/how-do-i-use-ubuntu-device-flash-with-the-bq-aquaris-e4-5-and-aquaris-e5
[19:15] <Paddy_NI> Cool, thanks for your time :-)
[19:15] <Paddy_NI> Ah yes I was on that
[19:15] <dobey> you did not pass --reocvery it seems
[19:15] <Paddy_NI> ah
[19:15] <Paddy_NI> I thought that was a problem
[19:16] <Paddy_NI> The syntax is wrong in that Q&A
[19:16] <Paddy_NI> --recovery-image
[19:16] <Paddy_NI> Is not recognised
[19:17] <Paddy_NI> Hmm unknown flag --recovery
[19:17] <dobey> it's --recovery-image
[19:17] <dobey> --recovery-image= Specify the recovery image file to use when flashing,
[19:17] <Paddy_NI> I've done both
[19:17] <dobey> also do not run ubuntu-device-flash under sudo
[19:17] <Paddy_NI> ah
[19:18] <dobey> and as per the askubuntu answer, if you get unknown flag for --recovery-image option, you need to add the PPA and upgrad phablet-tools
[19:19] <Paddy_NI> Silly me
[19:19] <Paddy_NI> Tired
[19:19] <Paddy_NI> :-)
[19:21] <Paddy_NI> Not my night
[19:21] <Paddy_NI> $ ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en --bootstrap --recovery-image recovery-krillin.img
[19:21] <Paddy_NI> 2015/11/23 19:21:00 Expecting the device to be in the bootloader... waiting
[19:21] <Paddy_NI> 2015/11/23 19:21:00 Device is |KRILLIN|
[19:21] <Paddy_NI> Device KRILLIN not found on server https://system-image.ubuntu.com channel ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en
[19:21] <Paddy_NI> Oops
[19:21] <Paddy_NI> I should have used pastbin
[19:21] <Paddy_NI> *paste
[19:23] <dobey> it shouldn't be all caps
[19:23] <dobey> maybe you need to --device krillin too
[19:23] <Paddy_NI> I know that's odd
[19:23] <Paddy_NI> cool
[19:24] <Paddy_NI> dobey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13479346/
[19:25] <Paddy_NI> The devise itself says USB Transferring | USB Transmission OK Time:424ms Vel:21769KB/s
[19:26] <Paddy_NI> And that is what it still says
[19:26] <dobey> ok, i don't know why that is
[19:26] <Paddy_NI> Fair enoough
[19:26] <Paddy_NI> Enough
[19:26] <dobey> this is an e4.5 that originally came with ubuntu? or with android?
[19:27] <Paddy_NI> Ubuntu
[19:27] <Paddy_NI> I flashed it with the official Android ROM for the device
[19:27] <Paddy_NI> In the past it normally just flashed without fuss
[19:27] <jgdx> popey, quick q, if you own a mako, what channel should you use for rc-proposed?
[19:28] <dobey> Paddy_NI: do you currently have android 5.x on it?
[19:29] <Paddy_NI> dobey: YEp
[19:29] <dobey> Paddy_NI: try flashing back to the original android 4.4 rom for it, and then try flashing ubuntu again
[19:29] <dobey> jgdx: i use ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/ubuntu on my mako
[19:30] <popey> what dobey said
[19:30] <jgdx> dobey, yeah me too. I will recommend that.
[19:30] <popey> jgdx, the same channel used on e4.5
[19:30] <dobey> e4.5 is bq-aquaris.en
[19:30] <Paddy_NI> dobey: Will do
[19:39] <Paddy_NI> brb I think a reboot might help me a little
[19:39] <dobey> probably not too much :)
[19:42] <Paddy_NI> meh
[19:46] <Paddy_NI> I've tried licking the screen and everything
[19:49] <dobey> did you flash to android 4.4 and boot it up, then reboot back to the bootloader and try to flash ubuntu again?
[19:50] <Paddy_NI> Trying to find the 4.x roms for it
[19:51] <Paddy_NI> BQ have a download on their site for 2.0.1_20150623-1900_bq-FW.zip
[19:51] <Paddy_NI> I think it might be KitKat not sure
[19:52] <Paddy_NI> And it seems to require the use of the dreaded SP_Flash_Tool
[19:52] <brendand> Paddy_NI, you can force the device '--device=krillin'
[19:52] <Paddy_NI> brendand: I did that
[19:52] <Paddy_NI> It fails to flash the device then
[19:52] <brendand> Paddy_NI, what is on it at the moment?
[19:52] <Paddy_NI> Android 5.x
[19:52] <Paddy_NI> Was originally Ubuntu Touch
[19:53] <brendand> Paddy_NI, and you reboot it into fastboot mode?
[19:53] <Paddy_NI> Yep
[19:54] <Paddy_NI> I just performed a factory reset from within android and letting it boot now
[19:54] <Paddy_NI> Going to give it another go
[19:54] <brendand> so it says '=> FASTBOOT mode...' in the bottom corner
[19:54] <Paddy_NI> Yeah
[19:54] <Paddy_NI> The files transfer across but it then just fails
[19:54] <brendand> Paddy_NI, do you know which url you got the recovery image from?
[19:55] <Paddy_NI> brendand: Recovery image for ubuntu touch?
[19:55] <wligtenberg> What cable would I need to test/demo convergence on a Nexus4?
[19:55] <Paddy_NI> brendand: http://people.canonical.com/~jhm/barajas/recovery-krillin.img
[19:57] <pmcgowan> wligtenberg, slimport
[19:57] <wligtenberg> pmcgowan, so not MHL?
[19:58] <brendand> Paddy_NI, ok. just be double sure the file you're specifying in --recovery-image is that one. i would advice specifying the full path to that file, even if it is in the current working directory
[19:59] <pmcgowan> wligtenberg, not for nexus 4
[19:59] <Paddy_NI> brendand: Good point
[19:59] <wligtenberg> pmcgowan, ok thanks, good that I asked, I though MHL would have been the correct one. Thanks!
[20:00] <brendand> Paddy_NI, the behaviour sounds like the recovery image not being installed properly but i'd need to see your command + its output and the device output to know for sure
[20:00] <brendand> Paddy_NI, especially when you say 'USB Transferring | USB Transmission OK Time:424ms Vel:21769KB/s' is the last thing it says
[20:01] <brendand> Paddy_NI, now i see your pastebin from before and i'd be positive that's the problem
[20:02] <Paddy_NI> I feel confident that it'll work this time
[20:03] <brendand> Paddy_NI, you'll know pretty quickly as there'll be a lot more activity both on the console and the device
[20:07] <Paddy_NI> brendand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13479760/
[20:07] <Paddy_NI> grrr
[20:08] <Paddy_NI> Maybe I should try and find an android 4.x rom for this E4.5. I also remember having to use Windows in order to get that dreaded SP_Flash_Tool working
[20:09] <brendand> Paddy_NI, it works on ubuntu
[20:09] <Paddy_NI> I could never get it working
[20:10] <brendand> Paddy_NI, the command above works on my krillin but i had ubuntu on it previously. shouldn't really matter though..
[20:14] <Paddy_NI> Perhaps I'll revisit this tomorrow http://paste.ubuntu.com/13479819/
[20:14] <Paddy_NI> brendand: ^
[20:14] <wligtenberg> bought a slimport, can't wait to test the convergence stuff :D
[20:16] <Paddy_NI> brendand: I wonder if that flash tool is available in a ppa
[20:17] <brendand> Paddy_NI, no definitely not
[20:17] <Paddy_NI> brendand: Am I even running it correctly
[20:18] <brendand> Paddy_NI, i just use ./flash_tool.sh without sudo
[20:18] <Paddy_NI> I get permission denied there too
[20:30] <dobey> Paddy_NI: yes, you need to find the 4.4 rom for the e4.5
[20:32] <dobey> "Optimisation of operating system for upgrading to Lollipop."
[20:33] <dobey> Paddy_NI: i'm pretty sure that "2.0.1 firmware" is android 4.4
[20:33] <Paddy_NI> dobey: Sadly the will require Windows
[20:33] <Paddy_NI> :-(
[20:34] <dobey> ? you should be able to flash using the mtk tool for ubuntu
[20:34] <Paddy_NI> Should
[20:34] <Paddy_NI> The Flash Tool just give me "Permission Denied"
[20:34] <dobey> oh
[20:34] <Paddy_NI> I have only ever been able to get it to work on windows
[20:35] <dobey> ok. i don't have a krillin here myself
[20:36] <Paddy_NI> That's no worries
[20:36] <dobey> so i can't offer much mor ehelp
[20:36] <Paddy_NI> I intend on kicking it's ass tomorrow
[20:36] <Paddy_NI> Thank you all for your help
[20:36] <dobey> np
[20:36] <Paddy_NI> Cheers popey brendand and dobey
[20:36] <Paddy_NI> Later
[21:00] <mterry> tedg, I'm looking at ubuntu-app-launch. You seem to have gone to some lengths to keep very little state around (ubuntu_app_launch_observer_add_app_starting don't operate on a data structure, and don't seem prepared to be called multiple times). And you also use dbus signals into the void (like UnityStartingBroadcast) instead of calling a method on a dbus name like com.canonical.Unity (despite expecting Unity to be the only one listening). Wo
[21:00] <mterry> uld it be so terrible to call a method on unity? (I'm looking at extending the handshake dance between UAL and Unity to allow unity to reject an app start -- so I am playing with the best way to get a response to UAL
[21:11] <mariogrip> dobey: I can make builds for devel-proposed (or rc-proposed) on my server if you want.
[21:11] <ahoneybun> hola mariogrip
[21:11] <mariogrip> Hey ahoneybun :)
[21:12] <ahoneybun> :)
[21:13] <dobey> mariogrip: hi. i'd actually like to get something set up to build on my server. i just don't know how to do it exactly
[21:18] <mariogrip> dobey: yeah, just give me an ping if you need me
[21:18] <mariogrip> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ImageBasedUpgrades
[21:20] <dobey> mariogrip: is there some way to use web hooks to for example cause my stuff to build new images, when certain channels on the official server get new images in them?
[21:28] <mariogrip> dobey: you can probably setup a webhook that run the build command
[21:29] <dobey> so the official server have webhooks?
[21:29] <dobey> or do i have to poll and parse the json?
[21:30] <mariogrip> I have a cron that run the import-images command
[21:30] <mariogrip> When there is no new images it just skips
[21:31] <dobey> ah
[21:31] <mariogrip> I have a cron every 2 hour
[21:40] <slvn_> leaving .. bye!
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[10:49] <alan_g> alf_: anpok_ with krillin CI problems again I'm strongly inclined to land some "easy stuff" by hand. Starting with lp:~afrantzis/mir/fix-1517990 - any objections?
[10:50] <alf_> alan_g: no
[10:52] <anpok_> sure!
[10:52] <alan_g> In that case, I'm accepting suggestions
[11:28] <ahayzen> Hey guys, I've just reported bug 1518935, but I'm not sure which part of the platform is causing it, I think it is possibly QtMir but wanted to ask you guys before I add the project as affected?
[11:33] <greyback_> ahayzen: hard to know for sure, someone would need to investigate. I suggest unity8 at the very least
[11:33] <ahayzen> greyback_, ok thanks :-)
[12:24] <dandrader> alan_g, any reason why size hints (min and max size, size increment value) are not properties of mir::scene::surface?
[12:25] <alan_g> dandrader: because they are specific to window management
[12:26] <dandrader> alan_g, I'm doing a lot of gymnastics to get that info from mir::shell::WindowManager methods to our MirSurface object in Unity.Application
[12:26] <alan_g> dandrader: that's because the window management work for qtmir hasn't been done yet
[12:26] <alan_g> greyback_ and I are due to start it on Wednesday
[12:27] <dandrader> alan_g, window management is done in unity8. qtmir just proviedes that info to it
[12:27] <alan_g> OK, I'm using "window management" as shorthand for that work
[12:28] <dandrader> alan_g, right now I'm working on making unity8 obey those size hints
[12:28] <dandrader> alan_g, in QML
[12:29] <dandrader> alan_g, and qtmir is the guy that exposes mir stuff into QML to untiy8 can use it
[12:29] <dandrader> alan_g, because it's just so much better to write those kinds of things in QML than in C++
[12:30] <alan_g> dandrader: agreed. And that piece of qtmir work has been postponed over months. So greyback_ and I are getting together to do it this week.
[12:30] <greyback_> dandrader: ordinarily I'd agree, but we've a mandate to implement policy like this in mir
[12:30] <greyback_> dandrader: I do want this info exposed to qml though
[12:31] <dandrader> greyback_, alan_g I have the unity8 part ready here: https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/sizeHints
[12:32] <alan_g> IMO mir::scene::Surface already has a bunch of info on it that doesn't belong there.
[12:33] <greyback_> dandrader: the plan is to move the JS code you added in WindowResizeArea.qml to mir itself
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-ko
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[00:54] <ipeter_> 안녕하세요?
[00:55] <autowiz> 안녕하세요
[01:13] <cartes9> 안녕하세요
[01:27] <HolyKnight> ㅎㅇㅇ
[01:53] <AndroUser> 다들 월요병은 극복하고계십니까???전 이상한방가서 혼자떠들다가 욀케 조용하지? 이생각만하며 멍때렸네요
[01:53] <autowiz> 안녕하세요
[01:55] <AndroUser> 오즈형덕분에 모바일로 들어왔습니다ㅋㅋ
[01:55] <autowiz> 아아 닉넴이 저래서 누군지 몰라봤네 ㅋ
[01:55] <autowiz> 어제저녁은 잘 먹었느냥? 뭐 먹었어? ㅎㅎ
[01:58] <AndroUser> 아 닉넴바꿔야겠네요ㅎㅎ 어제 검은깨파스타랑 비프햄버거 먹었어요ㅋ
[02:01] <AndroUser> 바꼈나요???
[02:01] <AndroUser> 안바꼈군요ㅡㅡㅎ
[02:06] <jun_mobile> 다시 들어왔습니다ㅎㅎ
[02:07] <autowiz> 맛있더냐? ㅋㅋ
[02:07] <jun_mobile> 느끼하더군요
[02:08] <jun_mobile> 햄버거는 맛있었습니다ㅎ
[02:10] <JasonJang> Holy Knight: seri.org 에서 검색하기를 추천
[02:16] <jun_mobile> 에스컬레이터가 고장난곳이 욀케많을까요??? 에구 힘들어라~
[02:17] <autowiz> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/20/opinion/international/south-korea-targets-dissent.html?_r=1
[02:17] <autowiz> 해석은 알아서 하시고... ㅎㅎㅎ
[02:18] <autowiz> 번역은 http://murutukus.kr/?p=10160 여기 있습니다 ㅋㅋ
[02:18] <autowiz> 영어 못해서 서러워지기전에 영어공부좀 미리미리 해둡시다 ㅠㅠ
[03:55] <autowiz> 월요일이긴 하지만서두 너무 조용한거 아닌가 싶을정도로 조용하네요 ㅎㅎ
[04:52] <ipeter> 배고프네요
[05:36] <cheesekun> . _.)
[05:50] <HolyKnight> https://dev.windows.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/testdrive/demos/chess/
[06:17] <JasonJang> HolyKnight: 위 제 답글 봤어여? ㅎ
[06:18] <HolyKnight> 아
[06:18] <HolyKnight> 아파트 분양이유?
[06:18] <HolyKnight> ㄱㅅㄱㅅ
[06:19] <JasonJang> 아 옙 ^^
[06:19] <HolyKnight> 제이슨찡도
[06:19] <HolyKnight> 사셧나유
[06:19] <HolyKnight> 앞아트유
[06:44] <JasonJang> ㅎㅎㅎ 샀다 팔았다 하고요, 또 분양도 받아봤지요.
[06:46] <HolyKnight> 부럽네유
[07:24] <sungyo> 구글 메일이 저한테 왜 그러는지..
[07:24] <sungyo> 서버상에서 발송되는 메일도 안받겠다고 하고... smtp도 거절하고
[07:25] <sungyo> 서버 노티는 이제 뭐로 받으란건지...( " ")
[08:36] <PotatoGim> SNMP 트랩이라는 대안이 있습니다!
[09:10] <autowiz> snmp는 tcp unicast 가 되던가요?
[09:11] <autowiz> udp unicast 는 되는것도 같고
[09:19] <autowiz> 포테토님 저녁은 드셨어요??
[09:32] <HolyKnight> http://blog.synapsoft.co.kr/417
[10:23] <HolyKnight> http://m.blog.naver.com/restervivant/220428997093
[10:24] <autowiz> 공부는 그냥 열심히 하면 됩니다 ... 라고 공신 강 뭐시기가 그러던데요 ㅋㅋㅋ
[10:26] <HolyKnight> ㅋㅋ
[10:36] <autowiz> 정말 그런거 같습니다. 이런말 하면 또 제수없다는 말 자주 듣는데 , 홀리님이야 머리가 좋으셔서 잘 모르시겠지만
[10:37] <autowiz> 주위에 공부 열심히 한다고 하는데 효율도 결과도 떨어지는 녀석들 꽤 많이 봤거든요
[10:37] <autowiz> 그리고 대부분 공부해야지 말만 하고 공부를 안합니다. 강성태 유투브 보면 완전 웃긴데 시간날때 몇개 봐보세요 ㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[10:39] <MENT> 앗
[10:39] <MENT> ㅎㅎ
[11:53] <HolyKnight> ㅋㅋ
[12:04] <HolyKnight> http://mlbpark.donga.com/mbs/articleV.php?mbsC=bullpen2&mbsIdx=3764318
[13:41] <ipeter> 휴
[13:41] <ipeter> R공부하고 있습니다
[13:41] <ipeter> 어렵습니다.
[13:45] <jun> 빅데이터 분석 하시는건가요.?
[13:53] <HolyKnight> 본녀도 R 생각하고 있다능...
[13:59] <HolyKnight> http://mlbpark.donga.com/mbs/articleV.php?mbsC=bullpen2&mbsIdx=3767558&cpage=3
[14:03] <jun> 7개밖에 못맞췄어요....
[14:03] <jun> 걱정을 해야하나봐요 ㅜㅜ
[14:03] <pchero_work> 3.. 얼룩말..
[14:03] <pchero_work> 우뢰매 인줄.. -_-;;;
[14:03] <pchero_work> 이건.. 늙었다는 건가요. -_-;;; 어디가면 아재소리 들을듯..;;;
[14:04] <jun> 저도 우뢰매 생각했는데 ㅋㅋㅋ 저만 그런게 아니군요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[14:05] <HolyKnight> zㅋㅋㅋ
[14:31] <jun> 오늘은 집에서 야근을 하네요;;;; 근데 왜 집이 회사보다 추운건지;;;;
[14:33] <ipeter> gb
[14:33] <ipeter> 휴
[14:33] <ipeter> 홀리나이트님 R 화이팅입니다.
[14:33] <ipeter> 아.
[14:33] <ipeter> 우분투가 짱이네요.
[14:33] <ipeter> 진짜 맥 짱나요
[14:33] <ipeter> ㅎㅎㅎ
[14:34] <jun> 아직 익숙해지지 않으셔서 그런거 아닐까요..? ㅎㅎㅎ
[14:34] <jun> 터치패널 다루면 되게 편하다고들....하던데요 ㅎㅎ
[14:39] <ipeter> 아오...일단 복사 붙여넣기, 잘라내기부터 힘드네요.
[14:39] <ipeter> ㅠㅠㅠ
[14:39] <ipeter> 진짜 우분투가 빛이요 진리요 생명인가요.
[14:39] <ipeter> 작업할때마다 헷갈려서 스트레스 많이 받아요.
[14:42] <HolyKnight> ㄳㄳ
[16:08] <autowiz> 즐겁고 행복한 밤 시간 되고 계신가요 ㅎㅎ
[16:09] <jun> 일하는중입니다~ ㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[16:09] <jun> 근데 잘 안되네요
[16:13] <autowiz> 동물이름 ㅋㅋ , 앞글자 부터 하니 힘들고 마지막글자에 올 수 있는걸 생각한 다음 , 다시 생각해보니까 그나마 쉽게 되는군요
[18:04] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[18:11] <jun> 안녕하세요~
[18:11] <Work^Seony> jun님이 왠일로 이 시간까지 계시네요
[18:14] <jun> 음....처음인거 같네요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[18:15] <jun> 이상하게 연말이 다가오면 일거리가 몰려들어오는지 모르겠어요;;;
[18:16] <jun> 10월 마지막주부터 시작해서... 불금과 불토는 다 사라졌네요...ㅡㅜ 내 아까운 청춘이여~
[18:16] <Work^Seony> 울나라는 연말에 회계년도가 끝나다보니...
[18:16] <Work^Seony> 여기는 연말일수록 느슨해지거든요
[18:17] <jun> 으흠.... 부럽습니다;;;
[18:18] <jun> 연말만 되면 이리 닥달을 해대니 원;;;
[18:43] <ahoops> 늦은밤 다들 고생이 많으십니다. (__)
[18:43] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[18:44] <ahoops> 오랜만입니다. 잘지내셨죠?
[18:44] <Work^Seony> 오랫만에 뵙네요. 저는 잘 지내고 있습니다 ㅎㅎ
[18:44] <ahoops> ㅋ
[18:45] <Work^Seony> ahoops님 하도 안오셔서 뭔일 생긴줄 알았네요 ㅎㅎ
[18:45] <ahoops> 전혀요..몇달 딴동네가서 놀다온거빼곤 다시 똑같아요 ㅋ
[18:46] <Work^Seony> 아 그렇군요... 뭐하고 노셨어요?
[18:47] <ahoops> 그냥 진짜 개발안된곳에 가서 정찰?좀하고 왔어요.
[18:47] <ahoops> 팔라완이라고 필리핀에 남은 마지막으로 훼손되지 않은섬이라고 하는데요.
[18:47] <Work^Seony> 개발안된 곳이면 산간오지 아닌가요? ㅎㅎ
[18:48] <ahoops> 섬이라서 산간오지는 아니구요 ㅋㅋ
[18:48] <ahoops> 그냥 다이빙만 주구장창하다가왔어요 -ㅅ-
[18:48] <Work^Seony> 아.. . 암생각없이 맘 편하게 있다오셨겠군요
[18:49] <ahoops> 그냥 거기서 살아볼까하고 갔는데요.
[18:49] <ahoops> 결과적으로는 전기가 안들어와서 ㅡㅡ;;
[18:49] <Work^Seony> 전기는 그렇다쳐도, 인터넷은 어떡하시려구요
[18:49] <ahoops> 발전기돌리는것도 하루이틀이죠;;
[18:50] <ahoops> 네 그부분때문에 사실상 다시 복귀했어요..
[18:50] <ahoops> 너무 가혹하더라구요.
[18:51] <ahoops> 맨날 열대어만 먹고살고 쩝..
[18:51] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎㅎ
[18:51] <Work^Seony> 전기 인터넷 먹는거
[18:51] <Work^Seony> 모두 문제군요
[18:51] <ahoops> 네.
[18:51] <ahoops> 근데 확실히 자연?은 살아있더구뇽.
[18:51] <Work^Seony> 훼손되지 않다라는게 꼭 "좋다"라는 의미를 갖는게 아니라는 점을 알게됐네요 ㅎㅎ
[18:52] <Work^Seony> 그래서 현대인에게 가장 이상적인 곳은, 자연환경이 살아있으면서 모든게 다 있는 그런 곳이겠죠 ㅎㅎ
[18:52] <ahoops> 네 전기만 들어와도 어떻게 해보겠는데 그게 힘들더라구요.
[18:53] <ahoops> 나중에는 머리만한 조개만 잡아먹고 살았네요.
[18:53] <Work^Seony> 저는 미국에서 영주권 못따면 다른 나라로 갈까하는데, 필리핀 좋나요? ㅋ
[18:54] <ahoops> 흠.
[18:54] <ahoops> 전체적으로는 나쁘지 않은것같아요.
[18:55] <Work^Seony> 영어보단 그래도 따갈로어가 더 중요하죠?
[18:55] <ahoops> 그렇긴한데요..
[18:55] <ahoops> 그래도 영어가 더 좋을때가 많죠.
[18:56] <Work^Seony> 왜요?
[18:56] <ahoops> 왜냐면 따갈로그도안통하는 경우도 있구해서요
[18:56] <jun> 전 이만 물러나보겠습니다.. 좀따가 출근하려면 조금이라도 자야겠네요~
[18:56] <Work^Seony> 잉? 자국어가 안통하는데가 있어요?
[18:56] <jun> 조금있다가 뵈요~~
[18:56] <Work^Seony> jun, 네 쉬세요
[18:56] <ahoops> 아니다 따갈로그가 더 나을듯하네요.
[18:56] <ahoops> 자국어가..애매한게 좀 있어요.
[18:57] <ahoops> 70개 언어정도 있다고 하더라구요..여기서 쓰는언어가요.
[18:57] <ahoops> 차타고 한시간가면 언어가 틀려진다고 생각하셔도 될듯해요.
[18:57] <ahoops> 제가 사는곳에서는 로컬애들끼리 서로 대화가 안되는 경우도 은근히 많아요.
[18:57] <Work^Seony> 음... 그런 곳일수록 남의 나라 언어인 영어는 더 안통하겠군요
[18:58] <ahoops> 네 영어도 안통하구 좀 애매하더라구요.
[18:59] <Work^Seony> 흐 필리핀은 안되겠군요
[18:59] <Work^Seony> 영어도 잘 못하는데 또 다른 언어까지 해야하면..
[19:00] <ahoops> 따갈라그 하시면되요 ㅋ
[19:01] <Work^Seony> 저는 어차피 취직을 해야하기 때문에... 사업할 돈은 없거든요 ㅎㅎ
[19:01] <ahoops> 취업은 무슨 ㅡㅡ;
[19:02] <ahoops> 미국쪽이 연봉이 한국돈으로 1억되나요?
[19:02] <Work^Seony> 아뇨 그건 동네마다 달라요
[19:02] <ahoops> 평균연봉이 칠팔천정도일려나요.
[19:03] <Work^Seony> 실리콘 밸리나 가야 1억부터 시작하지, 그외에는 1억 받기 힘들죠
[19:03] <Work^Seony> 동네 물가가 저렴한 주에서는 5천 6천도 많아요.
[19:03] <Work^Seony> 그런데서는 6천 받아도 살기 좋거든요
[19:04] <ahoops> 버는것보다 쓰기나름이긴하니;;
[19:04] <Work^Seony> 근데 대부분은 그런 곳으로 안가고 싶어하죠...
[19:04] <ahoops> 제가 사는동네는 진자 다 비싸서 애매하긴하네요.
[19:04] <ahoops> 질에 비해서 너무 비싸서 ㅠㅠ
[19:05] <ahoops> 계산좀 해봐야겠네요 진자 제 생활자체도요..
[19:05] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎㅎ
[19:05] <ahoops> 방값이 한달에 80만원, 전기세물세 하면 얼추 백만원.
[19:06] <Work^Seony> 근데, 사는데 문제 없고 그러시면 뭐 굳이...
[19:06] <ahoops> 아뇨 저도 그냥 작게 쓰는 편인데요.
[19:06] <ahoops> 압박이 은근히 있어요.
[19:07] <Work^Seony> 방세랑 공과금이 좀 세긴 하네요
[19:07] <ahoops> 이백정도는 쓰나봐요.
[19:07] <Work^Seony> 뭔 미국 수준이네요
[19:07] <DarkCircle> ( _ _) 너부죽.
[19:07] <ahoops> DarkCircle: (__)
[19:07] <Work^Seony> DarkCircle, 안녕하세요
[19:08] <DarkCircle> 요새는 바른생활이신가보네요 ㄲㄲ
[19:08] <ahoops> 근데 전 적게 쓰는 편인듯해요.
[19:08] <DarkCircle> 요 며칠새 _-_ ... 병에 시달리다 이제 들어왔습니다.
[19:08] <DarkCircle> 거의 일주일만인듯 .
[19:08] <ahoops> 다른분들은 더 쓰실듯..대신 많이들 버시니까 괜찮을것같아요
[19:09] <Work^Seony> DarkCircle, 흐 고생하셨군요
[19:09] <ahoops> 한국식당가서 밥먹으면 기본 3만원정도니까 ㅠㅠ
[19:09] <DarkCircle> 한국식당은 뭐랄까
[19:09] <DarkCircle> 나라밖으로 나가면
[19:09] <Work^Seony> 근데, 기본적으로 인건비가 싼 나라에서 그 정도 물가면 감당 안되는 수준 아닌가요?
[19:09] <DarkCircle> 이상하게 비싸더군요
[19:09] <DarkCircle> 메뉴도 별거 없는데
[19:10] <Work^Seony> 그게요,
[19:10] <ahoops> 감당안되도 식문화가 발달이 안되서 대안이 없어요.
[19:10] <Work^Seony> 한국음식은, 한국에서 오는 재료가 아니면 만들 수가 없어서 그래요
[19:10] <DarkCircle> 근데 중국이나 홍콩 이런쪽이라면 말이 조금 달라지는데
[19:10] <ahoops> 다 끌어와서 만들어야 흉내라도 내죠 ㅠ
[19:10] <DarkCircle> 거기도 비싸더군요.
[19:10] <Work^Seony> 그래서, 재료를 대부분 다 수입해야하니까 그래서 한국음식이 외국에 나가면 비싸게 되죠
[19:10] <DarkCircle> 아싸리 한국음식 재료가 안나는 나라야 좀 비싼게 이해는 가는데
[19:11] <DarkCircle> 한달 전쯤에 홍콩에서 온 분이 그러더라고요.
[19:11] <Work^Seony> 또 다른 부분은, 한국음식은 한국사람이 아니면 그 맛을 내기가 좀 어렵다는 문제도 있구요...
[19:11] <DarkCircle> 해봐야 비빕밥 불고기 이정도인데 1인분 양 별로 안되고 10달러가 넘는다고.
[19:11] <ahoops> 그게 로컬 배추 무우 이런걸로 만들면 만들수는 있는데 맛도 그렇구요.. 종자자체를 한국껄로 해서 키운놈으로 해야 맛도나고 고추가루 젓갈 이런건 대안이 없으니;;
[19:12] <DarkCircle> 젓갈은 그냥 실어가도 되는데 어디까지나 맛이 문제죠.
[19:12] <DarkCircle> 한국에서 하느 스타일대로 무조건 맵고 짜고 이렇게 해도 안되고
[19:12] <DarkCircle> 좀 약간 부드럽게 하는것도 필요한데
[19:13] <Work^Seony> 대충 비슷하게라도 맛 흉내내긴 해요. 예를 들자면, 양배추로 김치를 담근다던가...
[19:13] <Work^Seony> 양배추 김치가 의외로 먹을만해요
[19:13] <DarkCircle> 겉절이가 괜찮을거예요
[19:13] <DarkCircle> 익으면 "어우..."지만.
[19:13] <Work^Seony> 찌개를 못해먹어서 그렇지, 맛은 김치랑 비슷합니다'
[19:13] <ahoops> 제가 자주 먹는게 깻잎인데, 뱅기로 공수해와서 먹는데 한장에 80원 ㅠㅠ
[19:13] <DarkCircle> 아마 한국음식중에 외국에서 거의 비슷하게 해먹을 수 있는게 오이소박이일듯.
[19:14] <Work^Seony> 아뇨. 오이소박이 먹기 힘듭니다
[19:14] <Work^Seony> 고추가루 구하기가 힘들거든요
[19:14] <Work^Seony> 오이는 구하기 쉬운데, 고추가루 구하기가 어려워요
[19:14] <DarkCircle> 고추가루가 -ㅅ- ....
[19:14] <DarkCircle> ...
[19:14] <ahoops> 고추가루는 대안이 없자나요.
[19:14] <Work^Seony> 깻잎은 좀 이해가 안되는데요...
[19:14] <ahoops> 고추장 된장도 마찬가지구;;
[19:14] <DarkCircle> 아얘 없진 않은데
[19:15] <DarkCircle> 한국에서 나는 그 고추가루 맛이 나는 고추가루를 ...
[19:15] <Work^Seony> 깨는 전세계적으로 많이 먹는데, 깻잎을 먹는 사람들은 한국사람들 뿐이라, 깻잎 대부분 버리거든요..
[19:15] <DarkCircle> 생산하는데는 중국밖에 없는데요
[19:15] <DarkCircle> 가끔 중국산 보면 ... 어떤건 사기치는거도 있어서
[19:15] <DarkCircle> 고추가루가 아닌 경우가 있음 - -;
[19:15] <ahoops> 종자가 틀려서요. 로컬꺼는 못먹어요;;
[19:15] <DarkCircle> 요새 중국에서 하는게 뭐냐면
[19:16] <DarkCircle> 한국에서 종자하다가 심고 따고 또 심고 또 따고 ...
[19:16] <Work^Seony> 이거 재밌네요 ㅎㅎ https://www.google.com/starwars/
[19:16] <DarkCircle> 하다가 -> 사다가
[19:16] <ahoops> 제가 깻잎으로 집에서 진짜 많이 시도했는데 키워서 먹을라구요.
[19:17] <ahoops> 이게 딱 싹이나면 바로..꽃피워서 ㅠㅠ
[19:17] <DarkCircle> 깻잎은 조곤조곤하게 끓이면서 간맞추는게 관건 ㅋㅎㅎ
[19:17] <Work^Seony> 그나마 하와이는 아시아 계가 대부분이라, 먹는거 구하는건 어렵지 않아서 다행이죠 ㅎㅎ
[19:17] <ahoops> 바닷가라서 쌀쌀하다고 느끼는 순간 꽃피우고 죽을라고 하더라구요. 그래서 안커버리더군요.
[19:17] <Work^Seony> 아 그렇군요...
[19:17] <DarkCircle> 실내에서 키우셔야 할거예요.
[19:17] <DarkCircle> 뜨듯~하게 놓고.
[19:18] <Work^Seony> 부추 키워보세요. 부추가 초보가 키우기 딱 좋은 식물이라네요
[19:18] <ahoops> 네 유리관르로 딱 짜서 키워야할듯해요.
[19:19] <ahoops> 암튼 김치는 어찌어찌 와이프가 담그니 문제없지만;; 고추가루 고추장 없는 순간 바로;;
[19:19] <ahoops> 열대어만 먹어야합니다;;
[19:19] <DarkCircle> 고추장은
[19:19] <DarkCircle> 아마 그냥 사오는게 나을겁니다. 담궈먹기보다 ... =3
[19:20] <Work^Seony> "와이프"라고 말씀하시는거보니 결혼하셨나보네요
[19:20] <DarkCircle> 바닷가에서 고추가루에 뭐 해서 고추장 해먹으면 맛이 읎어서 ...
[19:20] <DarkCircle> 글게요 ㅋㅋㅋ
[19:20] <ahoops> 잡아먹은 니모만해도 상당할듯;;
[19:20] <ahoops> 결혼은 안했는데요. 이젠 거의 공식적으로 호칭은 와이프입니다;;
[19:21] <DarkCircle> 한동안 안보이시다 들어오실때는 항상 변신하시고 들어오신단 ...
[19:21] <DarkCircle> 요새도 맥주 많이 드세요 ?ㅅ?/
[19:21] * DarkCircle ㅋㅋㅋ
[19:21] <ahoops> 잘 안먹어요;;
[19:21] <ahoops> 많이 먹어봐야 한두병 정도요.
[19:22] <ahoops> 작년까지만해도 나발불고 쓰러져 자고 햇는데 ㅡㅡ;
[19:23] <DarkCircle> 글게요 ㅋㅋ
[19:23] <Work^Seony> 나발 불고 쓰러져 잘 정도면 몇병 드셔야되요?
[19:23] <ahoops> 와이프가 구멍가게 하거든요. 항상 30박스 이상씩 있으니 ㅡㅡ;
[19:23] <DarkCircle> 툭하면 섬 침수됐다고 컴 꺼져있다고 ... 하시고...
[19:23] <ahoops> 한박스 이상은 먹죠.
[19:23] <DarkCircle> 요새도 자주 침수되나요?
[19:24] <ahoops> 아뇨 요즘은 공사를 많이해서요. 좋아졌어요
[19:24] <DarkCircle> 다행이네요 ㄲㄲ
[19:24] <ahoops> 대신;;
[19:24] <ahoops> 인터넷이 막장에요 ㅠㅠ
[19:24] <DarkCircle> 뭐 IRC만 잘되면 되죠 (ㅇ?)
[19:25] <DarkCircle> IRC용 망시설.
[19:25] <DarkCircle> 조으다*-_-*
[19:25] <ahoops> 이제 겨울이니 하이시즌이여서요.
[19:25] <Work^Seony> 하와이는 최근에 isp 쪽에서 시설을 대대적으로 업그레이드해서, 이제는 다운로드는 100m bps 나옵니다
[19:25] <ahoops> 외국인들이 더 많이와서 ㅡㅡ;; 최악입니다;
[19:25] <ahoops> 백매가;;
[19:26] <ahoops> 제가 지금 영화받구있는데 지금 음 39KB정도네요
[19:26] <ahoops> 2.7기가 언제 받을지 에허 ㅠ
[19:26] <Work^Seony> 근데 100메가는 비싸서 50mbps 쓰는데, 사실 이것도 저한테는 충분해요
[19:27] <ahoops> 터미널만 잘 되면 -ㅅ-;
[19:27] <DarkCircle> 외국인들 오는 족족 돈 잘 뜯어내면
[19:27] <DarkCircle> 망 업글도 가능할거 같은데 -ㅅ- ...
[19:28] <Work^Seony> 아마 거기 사람들이 그런거 업글할 생각 자체가 없을 거에요
[19:28] <DarkCircle> 근데 생각코보면 필리핀이 워낙 이리저리 막장인데가 많다보니까 ...
[19:28] <ahoops> 네 너무 막장이라;;
[19:28] <DarkCircle> 돈을 얹어주고 꿀을 발라줘도 안해줄듯.
[19:28] <ahoops> 보통 여긴 그렇게 발라주지 않구요..
[19:29] <ahoops> 라인을 직접 설치를 합니다;;
[19:29] <DarkCircle> 가내수공업 ㄷㄷㄷ
[19:29] <ahoops> 예를 들어서 전기 통신시설 이런게 기본이자나요.
[19:29] <DarkCircle> 넹
[19:29] <ahoops> 전기는 전봇대 있어야하는데
[19:29] <autowiz> 벌써 4시반이네요 ㅠㅠ
[19:29] <ahoops> 전봇대 안세워주니까 음
[19:29] <ahoops> 전봇대를 리조트에서 설치를 하고나서
[19:30] <ahoops> 맨위에 라인은 우리 리조트가 전용으로 쓸꺼야 이런식으로 설치를 해요;;
[19:30] <DarkCircle> 거기서 가정용 이런식으로 빼오는거군요 (...)
[19:30] <ahoops> 그렇지요
[19:30] <DarkCircle> 거기서 380V 뺀다 그러면
[19:31] <DarkCircle> 우리 220V 16A 쓸께 몇가닥만 내놔라 .
[19:31] <DarkCircle> 이런식.
[19:31] <DarkCircle> 메인은 거기에 있고
[19:31] <ahoops> 쭙.
[19:31] <DarkCircle> 쓰는 쪽은 얹혀서 /-ㅅ-/
[19:31] <ahoops> 통신사 대역폭이 풀나서 너무 느리니..
[19:31] <ahoops> 전용라인 따로 다른 섬에서 끌어다가 쓰구 그래요 여긴 ㅡㅡ;
[19:32] <DarkCircle> 옛날에 필리핀에서 사업하시던 분이...
[19:32] <ahoops> 샹그릴라같은데는 제가 듣기로 라인비용만 천오백인가 지불한다고 하더군요.
[19:32] <DarkCircle> 있었죠. 그분 말씀대로도 사업체 자체도 그렇지만 정부도 치안기구도 모든게 다 막장.
[19:33] <DarkCircle> 아 물론 우분투 내에서의 얘기.
[19:34] <DarkCircle> 천오백 달러죠?
[19:34] <ahoops> 만원요..
[19:34] <DarkCircle> 아 만사천달러 후반이네요.
[19:34] <DarkCircle> (현재 환율 기준)
[19:34] <ahoops> 네;;
[19:34] <DarkCircle> 천오백달러면 =3
[19:34] <DarkCircle> (겁나싼거 -ㅂ-)
[19:35] <ahoops> 워낙 비싼 리조트니 부담없이 지불하는거겠죠;;
[19:37] <ahoops> 30분정도있다가
[19:37] <ahoops> 고기잡으로 가는 날이라;;
[19:38] <DarkCircle> 이번에도 니모낚나요 (...)
[19:38] <ahoops> 조그만 카누 가진 친구가 있는데 이친구랑 일주일에 이틀정도 같이 나가거든요.
[19:38] <ahoops> 니모도 많이 잡죠.
[19:38] <ahoops> 새벽에 나가서 두어시간 잡으면 대박나는 날은 10마리정도 잡아요 ㅋ
[19:39] <DarkCircle> 좀 뭔가 제대로 먹을걸 잡을라카면 멀리 나가서 등켜놓고 (...는 오징어...)
[19:39] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎㅎ 참치!
[19:39] <ahoops> 전부 열대어들에요 ㅠ
[19:40] <ahoops> 열대어가 안좋은게 따뜻한 물에 사는 물고기는 지방층이 얇아서 매운탕이 안되요
[19:40] <ahoops> 다 튀겨먹는 수밖에 없어요 ㅠ
[19:40] <Work^Seony> 생선을 그닥 안좋아하는 저로서는...
[19:40] <Work^Seony> 재미가 없겠군요 ㅎㅎ
[19:40] <Work^Seony> 그나마 갈치, 고등어, 참치, 연어까진 좋아하는데..
[19:40] <ahoops> 튀겨먹은 니모 뼈만 모아도 서니님 무덤정도는 충분히;;;
[19:41] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎㅎ
[19:41] <ahoops> 제가 팔라완가서 인상적이였던게 뭐냐면
[19:42] <ahoops> 조개중에 사람 머리만한게 있어요
[19:42] <ahoops> 그게 잡으면 안되는 조개인데 그게 삶아서 초장에 먹으면 흠
[19:42] <Work^Seony> 징그럽지 않아요? ㅎㅎ
[19:42] <DarkCircle> 보호종인가보네요?
[19:43] <ahoops> 제가 여기 필리핀와서 먹은 음식중에 최고였던것같아요
[19:43] <ahoops> 보호종에요 ㅋㅋ
[19:43] <Work^Seony> 여기도 마트가면 한 30센티는 되보이는 조개가 있는데, 징그러워요 ㅎㅎ
[19:44] <DarkCircle> 전 홍합이나 재첩 말고는 조개 잘 못먹는데
[19:44] <DarkCircle> 비위 이런거 때문이 아니라 트라우마(?)때문에 - -;
[19:46] <ahoops> 다이빙을 해서 들어가야 맛나느것들을 좀 많이 잡는데;;
[19:48] <Work^Seony> 하와이는 요즘 일주일 내내 비가 와서, 여행온 사람들 엄청 짜증나겠어요 ㅋㅋ
[19:48] <ahoops> ㅋㅋ 우기에요?
[19:48] <autowiz> 서니님도 비와서 조금은 불편하신거 아니신지 ㅠㅠ
[19:49] <ahoops> 여긴 우기끝나가고있어서 날씨는 좋은데 ㅋ
[19:49] <ahoops> autowiz: 낼름~
[19:49] <autowiz> 아훕스님 안녕하세요 ㅎㅎ 건강히 잘 지내시지요? ㅎㅎ
[19:49] <ahoops> 넹 덕분에요 ㅋ
[19:50] <autowiz> 인도네시아 놀러갔을때 거기 3년쯤 살던 제 친구가 그러는데
[19:50] <autowiz> 덥기도 하고 해서 입맛 떨어질때가 있는데 잘 못먹으면 면역력 도 같이 떨어져서 이것저것 많이 걸린다고
[19:51] <autowiz> 뎅기열 인가 걸려서 자기도 죽을뻔 했다고 ㅠ 그다음부터는 현지 음식도 잘 먹는데요 ㅎㅎ
[19:51] <ahoops> 살려면 적응해야죠;;
[19:52] <autowiz> 피자 햄버거는 잘 안질릴거 같은데 그래도 질리겠죠? ㅎㅎ 어떤데는 피자 햄버거가 너무 비싸서 먹기 힘든경우도 ㅠㅠ
[19:52] <Work^Seony> 저는 비 온다고 불편한건 없어요
[19:53] <Work^Seony> 집 바로 앞에 셔틀버스 와서, 사무실 바로 앞에서 내려주거든요
[19:54] <DarkCircle> 햄버거 먹는게 꽤 간편한데 패티 만들고 야채 다듬는게 귀찮아서 (...)
[19:54] <DarkCircle> 햄버거가 비싼 집은 패티가 (...!...)
[19:55] <DarkCircle> 그래서 뭐 나름 이유는 있더라고요.
[19:55] <Work^Seony> 글쵸 ㅎㅎ
[19:55] <DarkCircle> 보통 체인점햄버거가 쌀 수 있는건
[19:55] <DarkCircle> 그냥 기계로 돌려다 박박 찍어버리니까 ...
[19:56] <DarkCircle> 사람손으로 하면 식감 자체가 완전히 달라지니 ..
[19:56] <Work^Seony> 여기도 진짜 맛있는 햄버거 피자가 따로 있긴한데, 맛있는건 진짜 다르긴 해요
[19:56] <DarkCircle> 하와이에도 인앤아웃 있나요?
[19:56] <autowiz> 필리핀에도 있는지 모르겠는데 저는 그 바나나 잎으로 싼 밥이 맛있더라구요.
[19:56] <ahoops> 흠 약간 찰진 밥이요?
[19:56] <DarkCircle> 피자는 대부분 홈메이드식으로 만들겠지만...
[19:56] <ahoops> 약밥 스타일인가요.
[19:56] <autowiz> 발리에서 생긴일 드라마에서 하지원이 맛나게 먹는걸보고 으흐흐흐
[19:57] <Work^Seony> 인앤아웃은 하와이에 없어요 ㅎㅎ
[19:57] <autowiz> 네 거의 약밥비슷한 결과물이 나오더군요
[19:58] <ahoops> ㅋ 전 그냥 쿠쿠가 짱에요 ㅋㅋ
[19:58] <Work^Seony> 전기밥솥은, 진짜로 한국이 세계 최곱니다 ㅎㅎ
[19:58] <Work^Seony> 가격이 비싸서 그렇지..
[19:59] <DarkCircle> 90년대 초만해도 조지루시 코끼리 밥솥이 짱이었는데
[19:59] <Work^Seony> 가전제품이 말도 하거든요 ㅋㅋ
[19:59] <Work^Seony> 조지루시 아직도 나와요
[19:59] <Work^Seony> 하와이에는 많이 팝니다
[19:59] <DarkCircle> 쿠쿠 밥솥 기능 무지 많아요.
[19:59] <Work^Seony> 저도 한국밥솥 살 능력이 안되서, 아직 일본밥솥 써요.
[19:59] <DarkCircle> 그걸로 식혜 수정과도 끓일 수 있고
[20:00] <autowiz> 라면도 ㅋㅋㅋ
[20:00] <DarkCircle> ㅋㅋㅋ 라면 .. .
[20:00] <DarkCircle> 떡도 찔 수 있고 -.-;
[20:00] <DarkCircle> 술빵인가 그런거 .
[20:00] <DarkCircle> 옥수수 잔뜩 넣어놓고 쪄먹기도 하는데
[20:02] <DarkCircle> 아 한국 밥솥 살때는요. 굳이 비싼 모델로 안사도 돼요.
[20:02] <Work^Seony> 한국에서는 얼마 해요?
[20:02] <DarkCircle> 식구수가 많고 밥을 오래두었다 먹는다면 모를까 ..
[20:03] <Work^Seony> 여기서는 2인인가 3인용 제일 싼게, 한 $300 정도 해요.
[20:03] <Work^Seony> 조지루시나 파나소닉 같은 일제 밥솥은 $100
[20:03] <DarkCircle> 뭐 비싸봐야 10만원 언저리 정도면 ... 3~4인용.
[20:03] <Work^Seony> 가격차이가 많이 나니까, 일제를 쓸 수 밖에 없죠..
[20:04] <DarkCircle> (실제로는 거의 2인용이나 마찬가지지만...)
[20:04] <DarkCircle> 300불 가는 모델도 있는데 이건 진짜 대용량.
[20:04] <Work^Seony> 여기서는 대용량은 $500 정도 합니다
[20:04] <DarkCircle> 두고두고 먹는 집인 경우. 아니면 머슴+고봉밥 먹는 집.
[20:04] <Work^Seony> 제일 작은 것도 $300
[20:04] <DarkCircle> 그리고 요새 밥해먹으면서 깨달은게요 ...
[20:04] <Work^Seony> 당분간은 걍 일제 써야겠네요
[20:05] <DarkCircle> 밥을 해먹는거 자체는 전기밥솥보다 그냥 압력 밥솥 ... 가스불에 올려다놓고 하는게 나아요.
[20:05] <DarkCircle> 전기밥솥 전기요금 엄청나게 처먹어서 -_-
[20:05] <Work^Seony> 보통 자취하시는 분들 밥 얼려서 그때그때 꺼내먹지않나요?
[20:06] <DarkCircle> http://item2.gmarket.co.kr/item/detailview/Item.aspx?goodscode=642417589&pos_class_cd=111111111&pos_class_kind=T&pos_shop_cd=SH&keyword_order=%C4%ED%C4%ED+%BE%D0%B7%C2+%B9%E4%BC%DC&keyword_seqno=8533017637&search_keyword=%C4%ED%C4%ED+%BE%D0%B7%C2+%B9%E4%BC%DC
[20:06] <DarkCircle> 뭐 이런건 좀 싸죠.
[20:06] <DarkCircle> 별 기능도 없는거.
[20:06] <DarkCircle> 신혼부부에게 딱 좋음.
[20:06] <ahoops> 해먹어야죠;; 어캐 얼려서 먹어요 ㅠ
[20:06] <DarkCircle> 자취하는 사람은 보통 2~3인용짜리 대충 놓고 그때그때.
[20:07] <Work^Seony> 밥 새로 지어서 1인분씩 포장해서 냉동실에 얼리고, 그때그때 꺼내서 전자렌지로 녹이면 새밥 같습니다. 아직 모르시는군요 ㅋㅋ
[20:07] <DarkCircle> 포장할 때 잘해야해요.
[20:07] <ahoops> 호..그런게 있었나요
[20:07] <DarkCircle> 밥을 완전히 식히고 밀봉을 잘하는게 중요.
[20:07] <Work^Seony> 걍 1회용 비닐랩에 넣으면 되요
[20:08] <Work^Seony> 안식히고 걍 넣어도 됩니다. 뜨거워서 빨리 얼어요
[20:08] <DarkCircle> 비닐랩에 싸놓고 락앤락 통에다 밀봉 보관하면 괜츈.
[20:09] <DarkCircle> 근데 하와이에선 오래두고 그러면 상하거나 그러지 않나요?
[20:09] <DarkCircle> 흔히 쉰내난다고 떡 된내 같은 ... 냄새 나기 시작하면
[20:09] <DarkCircle> 과감하게 버리는게 -_-;
[20:09] <autowiz> 열대기후에서 과일이나 이런게 생각보다 실내에서 오래 보관이 가능한거 같던데요
[20:10] <DarkCircle> 아 과일도 종류별로 다를거예요.
[20:10] <DarkCircle> 어떤건 더운데 그냥 보관하는게 좋고 어떤건 얼려보관해야 하고 뭐 그런식.
[20:10] <DarkCircle> 한국에 바나나 가져다놓으면 죄다 시커매지는 이유가 ...
[20:10] <Work^Seony> 음... 저는 한국보다 하와이가 음식 상하는 속도가 좀 느리다고 생각했는데요,
[20:10] <DarkCircle> 기후가 안맞아서 ...
[20:10] <Work^Seony> 텍사스 같은 곳에서 오신 분들은 또 다르더라구요..
[20:11] <ahoops> 바나나 망고, 이런건 다 익혀서 먹어야하는거니 문제없구;; 문제는 채소인데;
[20:11] <ahoops> 채소는 여기는 한국식으로 따지면 거의 폐기처분되는 정도가 대부분이라서 ㅠ
[20:11] <autowiz> 빵도 한국같으면 거실에 놓고 이틀정도 지나면 영별로인데 먹을만 했어요 . 에이컨을 너무 틀어서 그런가 ㅋㅋ
[20:11] <Work^Seony> 여기는 이틀까진 아니고, 빵 같은건 한 1주일 넘게 가요
[20:12] <DarkCircle> 한국은 잘~보관해야 1~2주일
[20:12] <DarkCircle> 보통은 3일.
[20:12] <autowiz> 네 자카르타 있을때 4~5일씩 그냥 거실에 놓고 먹었던거 같습니다.
[20:12] <DarkCircle> 공장에서 만드는건 길게 보름
[20:13] <DarkCircle> 어렸을적에 친구가 제과제빵사인가 뭔가 그거 된다고 교본을 하나 펼치고 하나 읽어보길래
[20:13] <DarkCircle> 뺏어서 슬쩍 보니까 식용 보존제 이야기가 나오더군요.
[20:14] <DarkCircle> 그거 때문에 공장제조 제과류와 시중의 수제 제과류가 명확하게 제조공정/기법에서 선이 그어진다고 ...
[20:14] <ahoops> 얼마전에 한 한국분이 마닐라에서 야채를 왕창 가지고 오셔서 야채장사를 해볼까하고 오셨는데, 야채가져오는데
[20:14] <ahoops> 바기오->마닐라까지 하루, 마닐라->여기까지 하루;;; 그리고 2일후에 절반 버리셨다고;;
[20:14] <Work^Seony> 야채 갖고오는거 불법일텐데
[20:15] <Work^Seony> 아, 자국 내군요
[20:15] <ahoops> 네
[20:15] <ahoops> 자국내자나요 ㅋ
[20:15] <DarkCircle> 야채는 따자마자 바로 냉장실 직행 ㅋㅋ
[20:15] <DarkCircle> 양파나 감자 마늘 이런거라면 모를까 ...
[20:16] <Work^Seony> 흠... 여기도 2-3일 내로 버리는 정도는 아닌데, 거기가 좀 심하네요
[20:16] <Work^Seony> 습도가 높아서 그런가
[20:16] <ahoops> 이게 한국이면 냉장차?로 실어와서 바로 저온냉장고로 직행인데, 여긴 잘해봐야 아이스박스에요 ㅋㅋ
[20:16] <DarkCircle> 채소가 다 죽어서 오겠네요 ㅋㅋ
[20:16] <ahoops> 그래서 신선한걸 먹을려면 비행기로 바로 실어와서 바로 사야해서요.
[20:16] <ahoops> 그래서 깻잎한장에 80-100원씩;;
[20:17] <autowiz> 깻잎 ㅠㅠ
[20:17] <DarkCircle> 깻잎김밥 /-ㅠ-/
[20:17] <DarkCircle> 거기에 우엉넣고 치즈 넣어서 둘러먹으면 맛있는데
[20:19] <Work^Seony> 제임스 고슬링이 소녀시대 공항에서 사진 찍힌거 그냥 비슷한 사람이라고 했던거 같은데,
[20:19] <Work^Seony> 진짜 소녀시대 팬이라네요
[20:20] <DarkCircle> ㅋㅋㅋ
[20:21] <DarkCircle> 그나저나 미국 곧 정신없겠네요
[20:21] <DarkCircle> 미국이 좀 안정화될쯤이면 한국이 (...)
[20:21] <Work^Seony> 네. 그저께 쇼핑몰 갔는데 왠 사람이 그렇게 많았는지 깜짝 놀랐어요
[20:21] <DarkCircle> 이제 블프고 ...
[20:21] <DarkCircle> 곧 크리스마스고
[20:22] <ahoops> 서니님 영주권 기약없으신거죠?
[20:23] <Work^Seony> 저는 일단 이번에 진급부터 좀 하려구요
[20:23] <Work^Seony> 제 사수가 진급 요청 넣었어요
[20:23] <DarkCircle> 진급하면 늘어나겠네요
[20:23] <Work^Seony> 월급이요?
[20:23] <DarkCircle> 월급보단
[20:23] <DarkCircle> 체류 유효기간이?
[20:23] <Work^Seony> 아뇨 그거랑은 상관없어요
[20:24] <DarkCircle> 하고 있는 일은 어느정도 급이 있는데 실제 직급이 낮다거나 그런상황인가요?
[20:24] <Work^Seony> 체류에 관계된건 미 이민국이랑 이민법에 따르는거라...
[20:24] <Work^Seony> 원래 제가 여기 취업할 때 당시 나온 구인광고가, "주니어 시스템 어드민"이었거든요
[20:25] <Work^Seony> 예전 사수 말로는, 제가 "주니어" 포지션으로 불리기에는 좀 그렇다고는 했었어요
[20:25] <DarkCircle> ㅋㅎㅎㅎㅎ 하긴
[20:25] <DarkCircle> 경력도 있으신데 =3
[20:26] <Work^Seony> 근데 사실 저 같은 외노자는 주니어고 뭐고 일단 지원부터 해야되요
[20:26] <Work^Seony> 그리고나서 승진을 노려야죠
[20:26] <Work^Seony> 회사 입장에서도, 실력 좋은데 연봉 적게 받는다는데 안쓸 이유가 없거든요
[20:27] <DarkCircle> 하긴 ... 글쵸.
[20:27] <Work^Seony> 그리고나서 몇년 일 잘하면, 뽑기운에 기대해야할지 모르는 또 다른 직원을 뽑는 것보단 일 잘하는거 옆에서 지켜보는 직원을 승진시키는게 나아요
[20:27] <DarkCircle> 요새 분위기가 보면
[20:27] <DarkCircle> 주니어는 또 잘 안뽑아요.
[20:28] <DarkCircle> 안뽑으려고 하고.
[20:28] <DarkCircle> 더욱 격렬하게
[20:28] <Work^Seony> 글쵸... 실리콘밸리도 아마 그럴 거에요
[20:28] <Work^Seony> 하와이는 좀 인력난에 시달리는 곳이라서 제가 운이 좋았기도 했죠
[20:28] <DarkCircle> 인력난이 "골고루" 시달리는거 같더라고요.
[20:28] <Work^Seony> 제 부서장 말로는, 일 잘하는 직원을 오래 데리고 있기가 너무 힘들다고 하는거 같아요
[20:28] <Work^Seony> 다들 조금만 경력 쌓으면 딴데 갈려고 하니까...
[20:29] <DarkCircle> 한국은 경력 쌓고 뭐하고 해서 회사에서 붙들어주면 오히려 계속 있으려고 하는데
[20:29] <DarkCircle> 근데 그렇게 있으면 연봉이 올라가다가 어느샌가부터 깎이게 되고(일반회사는!)
[20:29] <ahoops> 서니님도 어서 딴곳으로..
[20:29] <ahoops> (필리핀으로..)
[20:30] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎ 필리핀 사시는 얘기 들으니까, 가면 안될 거 같아요
[20:30] <ahoops> 컴터 그거 나이먹고 계속하는거 아닙니다..
[20:30] <DarkCircle> 공무원이야 완전 쪼리였다가 15년차 20년차나돼야 ...
[20:30] <Work^Seony> 저 이번에 진급되면, 정말 운 좋아야 연봉 65k 받을텐데... 제 사수는 95k ㅎㅎ
[20:31] <DarkCircle> 대신 세금은 좀 쎄겠군요
[20:31] <Work^Seony> 저는 환갑 넘어서까지 필드에 있을 건데요 ㅎㅎ
[20:31] <Work^Seony> 네. 7만 넘으면 세율이 달라져요
[20:32] <DarkCircle> 한국은 연봉 5천 넘기 시작하는 딱 그 경계점에부터 갑자기 세율이 확 올라가서 연봉 5천 받는 사람이 연봉 4천 후반대 받는 사람만도 못한 상황이 -_-
[20:32] <Work^Seony> 흐... 그렇군요...
[20:32] <ahoops> 이론..
[20:32] <Work^Seony> 근데 여기는, 그래도 세금 많이 내면 말년에 연금이 오른다는 장점은 있어요
[20:32] <Work^Seony> 소셜 시큐리티라고 하는데, 말년에 소셜 시큐리티 많이 받으면 노년이 행복해지죠
[20:33] <DarkCircle> 한국은 ...
[20:33] <DarkCircle> ;ㅅ;
[20:33] <ahoops> 흠;; 연금이라는 말이 가슴에 막 와 닿는군요;;
[20:33] <DarkCircle> 지급보장 개뿔 없는
[20:33] <DarkCircle> 궁민연금.
[20:33] <Work^Seony> 일단 저는 65k 받으면, 더 이상 진급은 불가능하기 땜시...
[20:34] <Work^Seony> 뭐 그 정도로 만족해야죠
[20:34] <Work^Seony> 하와이니깐..
[20:34] <DarkCircle> 문득 생각나는게
[20:34] <DarkCircle> 어제저녁
[20:34] <DarkCircle> 반찬
[20:34] <DarkCircle> 겨란+스팸
[20:34] <ahoops> 전 결혼을 해도 법적으로 제이름으로 땅같은건 못사기때문에;; 모든 명의는 이미 와이프 이름으로 했는데 이건 어떤면에서는 진짜 도박 ㅠ
[20:34] <Work^Seony> 도박이네요
[20:34] <ahoops> 좋게 말하면 연금이고 한편으로는 ㅠㅠ
[20:35] <DarkCircle> 와이프에게 충성을 맹세하셔야 할판 ㄷㄷ
[20:35] <ahoops> 애매하더라구요..이런게 좀 그래요
[20:35] <DarkCircle> 한국은 제주도의 땅이 중국인 명의로 되어 있는 곳이 수두룩하죠
[20:35] <DarkCircle> 땅은 못사되 부동산은 살 수 있게 해야 하는데
[20:35] <ahoops> 제 인생의 가장큰 리스크가 와이프라니;;
[20:36] <Work^Seony> 이혼하게되면 어떻게 되시나요?
[20:36] <DarkCircle> 땅까지 팔아버림 ... 또라이놈들.
[20:36] <DarkCircle> 전재산 몰수인카 ..
[20:36] <DarkCircle> 근데 외국인도 아니고 국적보유자면
[20:36] <ahoops> 만약 결혼해서 이혼해도 자국민 편을 들어주기때문에 짤탱없어요 대부분;
[20:36] <DarkCircle> 법적으로 땅거래 되지 않나요?
[20:37] <Work^Seony> 사실상 그냥 땅을 준거나 마찬가지네요
[20:37] <ahoops> 이중국적은 나이가 더 있어야 가능해요. 아직 제 나이는 불가능한걸로 알아요.
[20:37] <DarkCircle> 땅을 준다기보단
[20:37] <DarkCircle> 제가 알고 있는 범위내에서는
[20:38] <DarkCircle> 매매 소유 다 안되는걸로.
[20:38] <Work^Seony> ahoops님 나이가 어리지 않은 걸로 알고있는데, 대체 몇살이나 더 있어야되요?
[20:38] <ahoops> 55세인가 넘어가야할껄요
[20:38] <Work^Seony> 헐... 그렇군요
[20:38] <DarkCircle> ㄷㄷㄷㄷ
[20:38] <Work^Seony> 정년퇴직하고나서군요
[20:38] <Work^Seony> 취직도 안되니까, 다른 나라 가든말든이군요
[20:38] <ahoops> 넹;;
[20:38] <ahoops> 그쵸..
[20:39] <ahoops> 15살이나 차이나는데 흠;;
[20:40] <ahoops> 어머님이 그러시더라구요.
[20:41] <ahoops> 결혼부터 해라~~ 그러시는데 저는 일이년만 더 살고;;
[20:41] <ahoops> 그런부분이 완전 큰 리스크라서;;
[20:41] <Work^Seony> 완전 크죠
[20:42] <Work^Seony> 도박이 아니라, 그냥 "증여" 하신거나 마찬가지네요 ㅎㅎ
[20:42] <ahoops> ㅋㅋ
[20:42] <ahoops> 뭐 그래서 지금 하는 일이 뭐냐면
[20:42] <ahoops> 와이프한테 일부러 구멍가게 하라고 했거든요.
[20:43] <ahoops> 근데 제 생각보다 음 일을 너무 열심히해서요.
[20:43] <ahoops> 8시에 나와서 12시까지 일해버리니까요.
[20:43] <ahoops> 한달에 와이프가 300좀 넘게 버나봐요.
[20:43] <Work^Seony> 헐 그렇군요
[20:43] <ahoops> 근데 원래 그전에는..한달에 60정도 벌었거든요.
[20:44] <ahoops> 60벌면 필리핀 기준으로는 잘버는건데요. 지금은 더 벌자나요 어찌되었던간에요.
[20:44] <Work^Seony> 무지 잘버는거죠 5배인데요
[20:44] <ahoops> 여기서 조금만더 벌면..
[20:44] <ahoops> 이게 마음이 바뀌는지 좀 보자...흠.
[20:45] <ahoops> 이게 제 포커스에요 ㅋㅋ
[20:45] <DarkCircle> 약간은 위험할지도 모르는 자본실험이군욬
[20:45] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎ 아무쪼록 잘 풀리셨으면 하네요
[20:45] <Work^Seony> 부자되시면 저 필리핀 구경 좀 시켜주세요
[20:46] <ahoops> 실험이에요 실험 진자 말그대로요;;
[20:46] <DarkCircle> 사람 마음이 자본에 의해 간사해지는것인가 ...
[20:46] <ahoops> 워낙 개판?나는 경우가 많아서 ㅡㅡ;;
[20:46] <ahoops> 진짜 다 털리고 자원봉사?만하고 쫓겨나는 경우도 많거든요.
[20:47] <DarkCircle> 못사는 나라일수록 그게 더하더라구요
[20:47] * DarkCircle 뭐 한국이라고 안그럴리가 (...)
[20:47] <ahoops> 그래서 다들 결혼하고 안하고를 떠나서 자식낳으면 자식앞으로 모든 명의를 돌리긴하지만요;;
[20:48] <DarkCircle> 최소한 자식은 개털되면 안되니 ㅋㅋ
[20:48] <ahoops> 그런거보다는;;
[20:49] <ahoops> 와이프는 배신해도 자식은 배신이 안되자나요;;
[20:49] <ahoops> 배신안때리니 보통 자식 앞으로 돌리더라구요.
[20:49] <ahoops> 자식도 배신때리면 그거야 진짜 팔자구요 -0-
[20:49] <DarkCircle> 흠 글쎄요. 요새 세태가 워낙에 짬통스러워서
[20:50] <DarkCircle> 자식이 누구 통수를 칠지 부부간에 누가 어떻게 통수를 칠지 그건 모르겠더라고요
[20:50] <DarkCircle> 이미 지구가 썩어서 =3
[20:51] <ahoops> 근데 확실히 틀려진게 있긴있더라구요.
[20:52] <ahoops> 항상 캐쉬를 가지고 다니고 캐쉬양이 커지니 쓰는건 변함없는데 약간 뭐랄까요 일이백은 쉽게 생각하는듯해요 ㅠ
[20:52] <ahoops> 예전이면 몇달월급인데 ㅠ
[20:53] <DarkCircle> 주머니에 넣는 돈을 항상 제한해두면 돼요 .
[20:53] <DarkCircle> 제가 그런식으로 한방에 쓰는 비용을 제한하거든요.
[20:53] <ahoops> 그게 장사하는거라서 안되요..
[20:53] <ahoops> 여긴 은행거래를 안하고 전부 현찰박치기만해서요.
[20:53] <DarkCircle> 개인적으로 쓰는 비용 따로
[20:54] <DarkCircle> 장사비용 따로
[20:54] <DarkCircle> 누가 쓸 비용 따로
[20:54] <DarkCircle> 선긋는게 중요 .
[20:54] <ahoops> 개인적으로 쓰는 비용은 전부 저한테 말하죠..ㅋ
[20:54] <ahoops> 다꾸님도 결혼하셨어요?
[20:55] <DarkCircle> 전 아직이요.
[20:55] <Work^Seony> 아무래도 수입이 커지면 그에 비례하게 쓰는게 달라지긴 하죠
[20:55] <DarkCircle> 빚갚는거부터 좀 -ㅅ-;
[20:55] <ahoops> ㅋㅋ
[20:55] <Work^Seony> 그런 부분에서는 부부가 서로 remind 시켜주던가 아니면, 수입이 오른만큼 생활의 질을 높일 것인가 고민해야죠
[20:55] <DarkCircle> 전 수입이 커져도 제 손으로 들어오는 돈은 선을 딱 긋거든요.
[20:56] <DarkCircle> 언제부터 언제까지.. 이런 일이 있을 경우에 대비해서 얼마까지 쓸 수 있다(또는 쓰겠다).
[20:56] <DarkCircle> 끗.
[20:56] <ahoops> ㅎㅎ
[20:56] <DarkCircle> 그 이상의 비용은 협의하든 부탁하든 해야죠. 정말 어쩔 수 없는 경우에나 .
[20:56] <DarkCircle> 그래서 가계부를 쓰는거고
[20:56] <DarkCircle> 차트를 뽑아서
[20:57] <DarkCircle> 어디서 비용이 많이 나가는지를 잡고
[20:57] <ahoops> 첨에 진짜 구멍가게 시작한 이유가 일다니지말고 차라리 이거라도 하는게 스트레스 안받고 좋자나~~ 하고 시작했는데
[20:57] <ahoops> 12sqm짜리 빌려서 시작했는데 이렇게 미친듯이 일할줄이야;;
[20:57] <DarkCircle> 근데 구멍가게가 오히려 손가는게 더 많다는게 함정 ㅋㅋㅋ
[20:58] <DarkCircle> 그냥저냥 고맙다고 하세요. ㅋㅋㅋ 최대한 표현 많이(?) /*-ㅅ-*)/ 하시고 =3
[20:59] <Work^Seony> 필리피노에 대한 부정적인 얘기를 많이 들어와서, 저는 뭔가 말씀드리기가 어렵겠군요 ㅎㅎ
[20:59] <ahoops> 오늘은 고기잡으로 안갈려는듯;;
[21:00] <ahoops> Work^Seony: 저도 그래서 걱정에요 ㅡㅡ
[21:01] <ahoops> 애매해지면 다 서니님탓.
[21:01] <Work^Seony> 하와이도 인구비율의 상당수가 필리피노거든요. 대부분의 아시안계가 필리피노를 엄청 싫어해요
[21:01] <Work^Seony> ㅋㅋㅋ
[21:02] <ahoops> 저도 싫어해요 ㅠ
[21:02] <ahoops> 극소수빼구요 ㅠㅠ
[21:03] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎ 거기 사시는 분께서 그러시니 현지는 더심하군요
[21:03] <ahoops> 흐이그;
[21:03] <ahoops> 써니님 다꾸님.
[21:04] <ahoops> 태블릿으로 서버만들려는데 찬성에요 비찬성에요.
[21:04] <DarkCircle> 여기는 지금 아침 아니 새벽인가 =ㅅ=
[21:04] <DarkCircle> 6시가 쪼금 넘었네요 =ㅅ=...
[21:04] <DarkCircle> 는 태블릿은 비추입니다.
[21:04] <autowiz> 태블릿으로 클러스터링 ㅋㅋㅋ
[21:04] <Work^Seony> 태블릿으로 서버를 만들 생각부터가 이미 비추입니다 ㅋㅋ
[21:04] <Work^Seony> 라즈베리도 조낸 불안한데
[21:04] <ahoops> 흠
[21:05] <DarkCircle> 그냥 ITX+x86_64 40만원어치 정도 잡아놓고
[21:05] <autowiz> 돌아가긴 합니다만 가능하면 피하시는게 어떠실까 싶습니다.
[21:05] <DarkCircle> 그걸로 세팅해서 굴리시는게 나아요.
[21:05] <DarkCircle> DC-DC 120W 짜리로.
[21:05] <autowiz> 아훕스님은 전기때문에도 걱정이실거 같긴 한데 그런면에서 테블릿이 좋기는 한데
[21:05] <DarkCircle> 배터리붙여도 돌아가게
[21:05] <ahoops> 전기가 문제에요..
[21:06] <Work^Seony> 데탑이 어차피 그래픽카드 안달고 씨퓨 안쓰면 전기 많이 안먹지않아요?
[21:06] <autowiz> 사실 요즘 핸폰이나 테블릿 사용이 많이 좋아지긴 했습니다.
[21:06] <autowiz> data io 가 살짝 걱정스럽긴 한데
[21:06] <Work^Seony> 정 힘드시면 아톰 달린 베어본 같은 것도 전기 적게 먹을 거에요
[21:06] <autowiz> 정전됐을대
[21:06] <DarkCircle> x86은 설계 잘하시면
[21:06] <ahoops> 정전에도 잘 버티고 터치스크린도 있었으면 해요 ㅡㅡ
[21:06] <autowiz> 때 를 대비하실듯
[21:06] <DarkCircle> 60w 급으로 낮출수도 있고 45w 급으로도 낮출 수 있고
[21:06] <Work^Seony> 크롬북
[21:06] <DarkCircle> 베이트레일 쓰시는거 추천.
[21:07] <ahoops> 아 랩탑을 서버로 쓰는게 좋겠군요.
[21:07] <autowiz> 준 님이 쓰시는 노트북이 터치가 되거든요
[21:07] <autowiz> 처음에 깜짝 놀랬음 ㅋㅋ 테블릿도 아닌데 ㅋㅋ
[21:07] <ahoops> 하지만, 그래도 태블릿같은걸로 서버만들고 싶은데 절대 안되는건가요 ㅠ
[21:07] <autowiz> 정전도 시도 때도 없이 됀다고 치면 배터리 교체주기도 생각해보셔야 하고
[21:08] <autowiz> 절대는 아닙니다. 저도 아이폰 3GS 로 연습삼아 해봤는데
[21:08] <DarkCircle> 커널 컴파일할 때 잘하시는게 좋아요. 기본은 무정전이고 대신 ondemand나 powersave로 돌아가야 정해진 용량의 배터리를 더 오래 쓸 수 있을테니.
[21:08] <autowiz> 동접을 올렺보진 않아서 잘 모르겠지만 돌아갈껀 다 돌아갑니다.
[21:08] <DarkCircle> 그냥 우분투 올린다고 올리시기보단 보드 뜯어보시고
[21:09] <DarkCircle> 커널에서 웬만하면 뺄 수 있는만큼 빼시고
[21:09] <ahoops> 용도가 뭐냐면 와이프 상품들 재고관리하고 등등 업무에 혼자쓸거에요.
[21:09] <DarkCircle> 넹 1. 무정전 2. 저전력 3. 가용성 확보일테니.
[21:09] <Work^Seony> 그럼 뭐 놋북 써야겠네요
[21:09] <Work^Seony> 걍 귀찮게 커널컴파일하기보단, lubuntu 올리세요
[21:10] <Work^Seony> 아니면 데비안
[21:10] <DarkCircle> 루분투나 데비안이나 ...
[21:10] <ahoops> 결국 랩탑인가 ㅠㅠ
[21:10] <DarkCircle> 커널에 모듈 잔뜩 올라간건 매한가지라 ...
[21:10] <Work^Seony> 필리핀 사람이니까 영어 쓰는데 문제 없을테고
[21:10] <DarkCircle> 하여간 최대한 커스터마이징하시는게 좋습니다.
[21:10] <Work^Seony> 가벼운 리눅스 올리면 될 거 같아요
[21:10] <autowiz> 용도는 전에 말씀하시던
[21:11] <autowiz> 구멍가게에서 사용하실 용도 인가요?
[21:11] <ahoops> 재고관리, 매출관리 등등 싸그리에요..네네
[21:11] <DarkCircle> 제가 지금 쓰는 이거 서버가 전기요금 너무 처먹어서 문젠데 ㅠㅠ
[21:11] <DarkCircle> 저전력 플랫폼에 커널을 올린다면 100% 커스터마이징합니다.
[21:11] <ahoops> 바코드 리더기도 하나 박구 ㅠ
[21:12] <DarkCircle> 프로그램은 직접 짜시겠근영 -ㅠ-
[21:12] <ahoops> 디비나 인터페이스 같은건 제가 다 작업할라구요 ㅎㅎ;
[21:12] <DarkCircle> 바코드 리더기 코드가 문제네 ...
[21:12] <DarkCircle> 드라이버가 제대로 올라가서
[21:12] <Work^Seony> 바코드리더 usb 많아요
[21:12] <DarkCircle> 값을 제대로 읽느냐만 ... 체크되면
[21:12] <DarkCircle> 그 다음은 일도 아니겠죠.
[21:12] <Work^Seony> 걍 바코드 읽어서 텍스트로 뿌려주는 usb 타입 저가형 많습니다
[21:12] <DarkCircle> 사실 그 쪼그만 구멍가게라도 - -;
[21:13] <ahoops> 바코드 리더기는 별 이슈가 없지싶은데 역시 전기가 관건에요 ㅠ
[21:13] <DarkCircle> 단순 재고관리라면 모를까 품목이나 분류가 많으면 복잡해집니다.
[21:13] <ahoops> 아 복잡도는 상관없어용...
[21:13] <Work^Seony> 놋북에 usb면 해결 되잖아요
[21:13] <ahoops> 근데 놋북이 싫어요
[21:14] <DarkCircle> 복잡도가 올라가면 단위시간 전력 소모량 올라가요.
[21:14] <DarkCircle> 프로세스양이 커져서
[21:14] <ahoops> 태블릿처럼 이쁜거로 하고 싶단말에요 ㅋㅋ
[21:14] <DarkCircle> 최대한 단순하게 설계하고 단순하게 돌아가는게 배터리 오래쓰는데 좋아요.
[21:14] <Work^Seony> 뭔 산간오지나 극한의 환경에서 컴퓨터 쓰시는줄 알겠어요 ㅋㅋ
[21:14] <ahoops> 랩탑은 안이쁘자나요 ㅡㅡ
[21:14] <Work^Seony> 우주정거장용 POS 만드시나요 ㅋ
[21:14] <ahoops> 아좀~ 항시긍정적인 마인드로..
[21:14] <DarkCircle> 정글 POS 같은거 ㅋㅋㅋ
[21:15] <ahoops> 구멍가게좀 잘 돌려보게 협조좀해보게요 ㅋㅋ
[21:15] <Work^Seony> 군용급 제품이네요 ㅋㅋ
[21:15] <DarkCircle> 단순하고 심플하게 가면 괜찮겠군요.
[21:15] <Work^Seony> 그러면, 라즈베리파이 써보세요
[21:15] <autowiz> 키보드 칠 일 이 있다면 노트북이 편할 수 도 있을거 같구요
[21:15] <autowiz> 아니면 뭐 그냥 하고싶은거 하면 되는거 아니겠습니까 ㅎㅎ
[21:15] <Work^Seony> 라즈베리파이가 24/7 운용하기에는 좀 불안해도, 하루 한 번 부팅이면 괜찮아요
[21:15] <ahoops> 흠 진짜 태블릿으로 쓰면 곰방 골로 갈려나요.
[21:15] <DarkCircle> 예전에 어디였더라 ... 어떤분 딸 장난감 만든다고 구멍가게같은데서 중고컴 업어다가 박스 만들어가지고
[21:15] <autowiz> 아훕스님 그냥 생각하신바로 밀어붙이세요 ㅎㅎ
[21:15] <DarkCircle> 진짜 POS 장난감 만든 동영상 있는데
[21:15] <Work^Seony> 라즈베리파이에도 usb가 붙으니까 그게 괜찮을 거에요
[21:15] <DarkCircle> 예전도... 오래전이 아니라 며칠전
[21:16] <Work^Seony> 제 생각에, 태양광판이면 라즈베리 돌릴 수 있을거 같아요
[21:16] <ahoops> 아 라즈베리 그거 꼴랑 기판하나 돌아다니고 안이뻐요.
[21:17] <DarkCircle> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[21:17] <Work^Seony> 휴대용 태양광판 많잖아요. 그런걸로 라즈베리 돌리거나, 아니면 휴대용 충전지 같은거 좀 용량 큰거 정도면 라즈베리파이 하루 정도는 돌릴 수 있을 걱 타은데요 ㅎㅎ
[21:17] <ahoops> 일단 정리부터 흠흠
[21:17] <ahoops> 다들 태블릿으로 서버돌리는거 반대인가요 찬성인가요.
[21:17] <ahoops> 다들 손드세용
[21:17] <Work^Seony> 가게 pos 용이라면 찬성입니다
[21:18] <DarkCircle> 태블릿 -> 서버 반대, 업무용 노트패드 찬성.
[21:18] <ahoops> 위즈님은요.
[21:18] <ahoops> autowiz: 어서 손드세요~
[21:18] <autowiz> 저는 찬성입니다 ㅎㅎ
[21:18] <ahoops> 네네
[21:18] <ahoops> 이제 그럼 결론 낼께요
[21:19] <ahoops> 서니님 찬성, 위즈님 찬성,
[21:19] <ahoops> 그리고...
[21:19] <ahoops> 다꾸님만 반대 맞죠?
[21:19] <autowiz> (근데 굳이 서버 라고 부를만할까요? 그냥 한대 안에서 전부다 돌아가면 그냥 프로그램이잖아요 ㅎㅎ )
[21:19] <DarkCircle> 글게욬
[21:19] <Work^Seony> 글쵸./ 걍 프로그램 ㅋㅋ
[21:19] <ahoops> 그럼 이제부터 다꾸님만 우리의 적
[21:19] <ahoops> ㅋㅋㅋ
[21:19] <DarkCircle> 그건 서버가 아니자나욬
[21:19] <ahoops> 이게 결론 끝
[21:19] <DarkCircle> = 3
[21:19] <Work^Seony> 이 채널에서 "서버"라고 말씀하시면, 데이터센터에서 돌아가는 그런걸 상상합니다 ㅎㅎ
[21:19] <autowiz> 핸폰이랑 다시 연동 시키실려고 하시는건가
[21:19] <ahoops> 네
[21:19] <ahoops> 핸폰으로 연동할려구요.
[21:20] <autowiz> 아파치랑 pgsql 혹은 mysql 정도 돌아가고 ㅋㅋ
[21:20] <autowiz> php 나 python 같은거도 조금
[21:20] <DarkCircle> 패드에 mysql 들어가는 순간부터 전력소모량 3~4배 증폭 =3...
[21:20] <Work^Seony> 아이폰처럼 sqlite 써도 되요
[21:21] <DarkCircle> realm 쓰세요
[21:21] <DarkCircle> 추천함.
[21:21] <ahoops> ㅋㅋ
[21:22] <autowiz> realm 이거 ㅋㅋ 저는 리얼에 m 붙은건줄 알고 리얼름 이라고 읽은 ㅠㅠ
[21:22] <DarkCircle> ㅋㅋㅠㅠ
[21:22] <DarkCircle> 저도 어렸을때 리얼름 =3
[21:22] <DarkCircle> 리얼 얼음! 도 아니고
[21:22] <DarkCircle> (.........................)
[21:23] * DarkCircle (휘이이잉...)
[21:23] <ahoops> 흠 잠시만요..
[21:24] <autowiz> 배터리 교체 가능한 테블릿이나 패드는 없지요?
[21:25] <ahoops> 교체 불가능해도 보조밧데리를 교체해가면서 버티면 꽤 버틸수있을듯해요.
[21:26] <ahoops> 만약 정전시에는 보조밧데리 두어개정도로 버티다가..그래도 정전이 이어지면
[21:26] <ahoops> 리조트같은데 보조밧데리 들고가서 충전해오면서 계속 버티기 ㅠㅠ
[21:26] <ahoops> 흑흑
[21:26] <DarkCircle> 결국 보조배터리 많이 사두고 버티는게 관건 ㅡ,.ㅡ
[21:26] <ahoops> ㅋㅋ
[21:27] <Work^Seony> 여행용 충전팩 같은거 쓰시면 될 거 같은데요
[21:27] <ahoops> 근데 보통의 경우 정전이되면 5시간 이내로 끝나요
[21:27] <autowiz> 지금은 따로 POS 없으신건가요?
[21:27] <ahoops> 없어용
[21:27] <DarkCircle> 뭔가 검색해보려고 했는데
[21:27] <DarkCircle> 까먹었네요 -ㅅ-
[21:27] <Work^Seony> 이런거... http://www.amazon.com/Innogie-6000mAh-Portable-Charger-External/dp/B00WU3XWC8/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1448314032&sr=8-4&keywords=battery+pack
[21:27] <DarkCircle> 잊어야지 (...)
[21:27] <autowiz> 어떻게 생각하면 뭐 그냥 정전되면 정정되는데로 POS 없이 수기로 ㅎㅎ
[21:28] <ahoops> 안되요;; 수기는 ㅠ
[21:28] <DarkCircle> 마침 생각난게 샤오미 배터리군요.
[21:29] <ahoops> 지금까지는 와이프 혼자 일햇는데, 이제는 직원을 써야하기때문에 실시간 감시 시스템?을 위해서 ㅡㅡ
[21:29] <ahoops> 절대 꺼지면 안됩니다 ㅠ
[21:29] <ahoops> 특히나, 24시간 오픈을 하기로해서요.
[21:29] <ahoops> 모든 거래는 현찰거래이기도하구요.
[21:31] <DarkCircle> 카메라도 달아놓으셔야겠군요 ?ㅅ?a ... 정전이면 녹화 꺼지는건카
[21:31] <ahoops> 그건 따로갈라구요..
[21:32] <DarkCircle> (뭔가 단순한 문제가 엄청나게 복잡해지고 있다) ~( - -)~ ...
[21:32] <ahoops> ㅋㅋ
[21:32] <ahoops> 한 삼십분정도후면 흠.
[21:32] <ahoops> 인공지능 어쩌고 저쩌고 나올겁니다..
[21:33] <autowiz> 아훕스님 제가 전부터 해결해 드릴 수 있습니다.
[21:33] <autowiz> 전부다
[21:33] <ahoops> 어찌캐요..?
[21:33] <autowiz> 제가 가게에 24시간 상주를 하겠습니다
[21:33] <DarkCircle> ㅎㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[21:33] <ahoops> 젠장 ㅠ
[21:34] <DarkCircle> 연봉으로 인해 가게 수입이 마이너스 =3
[21:34] <ahoops> 24시간돌아가는 인공지능인것인가요 ㅎㅎ
[21:34] <autowiz> 24시간은 무리고 20시간 정도로 쇼부를 ㅎㅎ
[21:36] <DarkCircle> http://www.amazon.com/26800mAh-Portable-RAVPower-External-Technology/dp/B012NIQG5E/ref=pd_sim_107_6?ie=UTF8&dpID=31SSeHnBRvL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=19MTVTQJ9QADCDBX9GHF
[21:36] <DarkCircle> 괜찮군요
[21:36] <DarkCircle> 좀 비싸지만 -_-
[21:37] <DarkCircle> 국제 배송 안되네 =3
[21:38] <ahoops> 그냥 작은 ups를 몇개 박는게 좋겠다 싶어요;;
[21:38] <ahoops> 싼놈들 많자나요 ㅋ
[21:40] <DarkCircle> 아 마따
[21:40] <DarkCircle> 이제 생각나네
[21:40] <DarkCircle> 마소 잡지 ... 휴간한답니다.
[21:41] <DarkCircle> 뭐 사실상 정간이나 폐간이 될지도 모르는거지만 그런건 지금 생각할 단계는 아닌거 같고
[21:42] <DarkCircle> 진영 정비가 되면 그때 다시 잡지가 나올 수도 있겠는데 만약 그때 마소잡지가 나온다면 예전의 마소잡지 같은건 기대하기 힘들거예요.
[21:43] <autowiz> 나름 역사가 있는 책인데 아쉽네요
[21:52] <ahoops> http://www.ciokorea.com/news/24999
[21:52] <ahoops> 이런게 땡기는데요;
[22:04] <DarkCircle> 흠
[22:04] <DarkCircle> 좀 아까 슬래시닷에 올라온 내용인데요
[22:05] <DarkCircle> 델 랩톱에 윈도우를 쓰는 경우 애드웨어 비스무레한 인증서가 디폴트로 설치가 된다는군요.
[22:05] <DarkCircle> 문제는 이게 겉으로 보기에 인증서인데
[22:06] <DarkCircle> 실제로는 인증서가 아니라는거 (...)
[22:15] <DarkCircle> ahoops, 그게 아까 제가 말씀드렸던 베이트레일 모델
[22:15] <DarkCircle> http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/compute-stick/intel-compute-stick.html
[22:23] <ahoops> 상당히 맘에 들고있어요.
[22:24] <ahoops> 꽤 좋아보이는데요 ㅋ
[22:32] <ahoops> 터치가 달린 태블릿이냐 아니면 다꾸님 모델이냐 이것이 관건.
[22:56] <JasonJang> ahoops: 님 오랜만입니다. 팔라우'에 분도님 삼촌이 그곳 유지로 소통령처럼 살고 있다고 함 같이 놀러 가자'는 얘기가 있었는데...
[22:58] <JasonJang> 저 같으면 ordroid 로 섭을 구성하겠어요, 전기는 태양열+축전기, 인터넷은 단파대 무전기/무료, 단 속도가 300Kbps 라는 것이 좀...ㅠㅠ
[22:58] <Work^Seony> JasonJang, 안녕하세요
[22:58] <JasonJang> ^^
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-release
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[17:04] <Mirv> cyphermox: sorry, I should have explicitly asked to be added to the newly created package set. does it need another meeting, a formal application etc or can it be handled on the mailing list?
[17:15] <cyphermox> Mirv: we usually vote on these things, I think you should formally apply if you don't already have upload rights for those packages
[17:41] <Mirv> cyphermox: ok, that won't help my Qt landing though anymore probably, since this addition took the 2.5 months it did and now the landing is probably near. but since the set is there it'd be useful to have someone there.
[19:28] <xnox> infinity, the above two new syncs could they please go straight into main =)
[19:29] <xnox> (i guess they will end up in new anyway)
[19:32] <infinity> xnox: I wasn't planning on syncing those until the arch actually existed. :P
[19:33] <infinity> xnox: I'm not even sure how LP behaves with a source that it can't create build records for.
[19:33] <xnox> infinity, behaved fine in raring =)
[19:34] <xnox> infinity, i'm just going through random things i can do now.
[19:36] <infinity> xnox: Yeah, we altered build record things a bit since raring. But it may still be happy with having buildless sources. I don't think the bit that would break there got changed.
[19:37] * infinity goes taco hunting.
[21:13] <cjwatson> xnox,infinity: It should work OK in these cases, I believe, but beware: if the source has any architecture-independent packages, such a copy will result in LP trying to do an architecture-independent-only build on amd64, which may not be what you intended and may not work.
[21:13] <cjwatson> xnox,infinity: I'd probably recommend not exercising this just now. :P
[21:24] <infinity> cjwatson: Yeah, those ones have no indep, just s390{,x}
[23:32] <sbeattie> Hrm, I hate to ask for anything additional blocking things from promoting from proposed, but shouldn't a BuildDep version requirement that hasn't made it out of proposed block a package from leaving proposed?
[23:32] <sbeattie> (The specific instance that I've just seen is graphviz migrating with a build-dep on ruby-dev > 1:2.2, which hasn't made it out of xenial-proposed)
[23:34] <xnox> sbeattie, i belive britney only tests dependensies, not build dependensies.
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"authors": [
"Mirv",
"cjwatson",
"cyphermox",
"infinity",
"sbeattie",
"xnox"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-release"
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-motu
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[07:29] <dholbach> good morning
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.444807
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"dholbach"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/23/%23ubuntu-motu.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-motu"
}
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2015-11-23-#lubuntu
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[11:03] <Guest49970> Bonjour! Je suis français j'ai besoin d'aide pour installer Lubuntu ...
[11:09] <leszek> Guest49970: sorry only english here. If you need help installing maybe #ubuntu-fr might help
[11:10] <Guest49970> ok thanks ! ;)
[17:47] <utu8o> pcmanfm froze
[17:48] <utu8o> i guess i'll just xkill it?
[17:48] <leszek> utu8o: yep
[17:50] <utu8o> crap i accidentally xkill the lxpanel lol
[17:50] <wxl> utu8o: that's why using `killall` or `kill` is a better choice
[17:51] <utu8o> now i have to leave the lxterminal on until i restart
[17:51] <wxl> Na3iL: you will need to get testimonials. as an active member of at least two teams this should be easy
[17:52] <wxl> oops wrong channel XD
[17:52] <wxl> utu8o: if you do it with the run dialog, you won't have to
[17:52] <utu8o> i'm using the ppa version of PCmanfm because the one on lubuntu doesn't have close multiple windows
[17:53] <utu8o> wxl i don't know wwhat that is
[17:53] <wxl> utu8o: alt-f2
[17:54] <utu8o> that doesn't do anything
[17:56] <wxl> utu8o: you can also access the command in the menu. you might want to check yoru openbox configuration to see why alt-f2 doesn't work, as it is a default
[18:01] <utu8o> my desktop icons are gone too
[18:01] <utu8o> i'm just going to restart
[22:59] <ianorlin> wxl I currently like pkill and pgrep rather than kill all and the manpage actually makes sense
[22:59] <ianorlin> wxl run dialog needs lxpanel as it is lxpanelctl run
[23:01] <ianorlin> at least that is what the defualt points to I think it changed to have it point to other stuff you can want through lxsession-defualt
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-pl
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[08:01] <sylwek> wziałęm z play internet: FORMUŁA 4 LTE UNLIMITED,,, i 25GB pobrałem i prędkośc spadłą do 16kb/s,,, wiec gdzie ten UNlimited
[08:01] <sylwek> ?
[08:02] <mati75> czytaj regulamin usługi
[08:02] <mati75> unlimited to tylko nazwa produktu
[08:03] <sylwek> teraz to wiem
[08:04] <sylwek> trzeba kolejne 40zł dopłacać co miesiąc zeby był naprawde bez limitu
[09:00] <gjm> ja mam lte z playa i działa
[09:11] <sylwek> mnie tez działa, nawet 30Mb/s mam w domu,, ale to na wiosce wiec tak bedzie chodziło słabo
[15:57] * drathir sie zastanawia czy kiedykolwiek osoby zrozumia, ze net komorkowy to nie normalny net tylko mobilne narzedzie do sprawdzania maili w podrozy lub jesli nie ma innej mozliwosci stacjonarnie... normalny net to tylko kabel, albo swiatlo...
[15:58] <drathir> sysek: na dlugo sie wpakowales? ;/
[15:58] <drathir> sysek: tabfail...
[16:00] <jacekn_> drathir: e tam jak ktos pracuje jak sysadmin to mobilny tez daje rade spokojnie
[16:01] <qermit> najlepszy jest dialup przez radio linię na zapiździajewie
[16:02] <qermit> ssh host - kawusia, user - kawusia, hasło - kawusia, wklepanie komend z pamięci - kawusia
[16:03] <drathir> qermit: ale te kolejowe radiolinie czy miedziaki przy torach kladzione to niy do dzis potrafia dzialac ;p
[16:04] <drathir> jacekn: owszem tez ujdzie...
[16:05] <firemark> drathir: chodzi o wolność łącza czy security?
[16:07] <jacekn> drathir: jak ja na takim mobilmy przez troche pracowalem to mialem ping ok 150ms z PL to UK gdzie byly serwery
[16:07] <jacekn> nie jest idealnie ale spokojnie mozna pracowac. I tak to jest o polowe mniej jak ludzie z AU maja
[16:08] <drathir> firemark: pingi jak z kosmosu, niestabilnosc dluga synchronizacja czesto zanizanie technologii no i co najlepsze nadajniki z zepsutym roamingiem, juz nie wspominajac o warunkach meterologicznych co tez ladnie potrafia ubic jakosc... mobilne to jak nazwa mowi tylko jako zapasowy a nie normalny net...
[16:09] <drathir> jacekn: jedyne co moge dobrego powiedziec to to, ze i tak pl jakosciowo wypada znacznie lepiej niz zagranica... tu musze przyznac racje...
[16:10] <firemark> dziwne, nie jest tak źle z orange jak chodzi o sieć
[16:10] <drathir> jacekn: za granica timeotu i pingi po 3k ms to norma czesto gesto jest...
[16:10] <firemark> jedynie w pendolino dostaję krwotoku z netem
[16:10] <drathir> i to nie nawet na odludziu totalnym...
[16:10] <firemark> ale to normalne, sam pociag to jedna puszczka pandory
[16:11] <qermit> firemark: nie wiem jak teraz, ale jeszcze niedawno większość masztów/BTS była podłączona za pomocą E1/T1
[16:11] <jacekn> drathir: w niektorych miejscach tak, szczegolnie jak duza metropolia
[16:11] <qermit> jak wprowadzili LTE to się to trochę zaczęło zmieniać
[16:13] <drathir> firemark: o orange zlego slowa nie moge powiedziec moze jestem stronniczy bo sam mam z orange, ale wypacz jak edge mi smiaga szybciej od hdspa+ z plusa przy czum do nadajnika plusa nawet z 500m nie ma to tylko wspolczuc uzytkownikom zlodziejskiego plusa...
[16:13] <drathir> wypacz/wybacz*
[16:14] <qermit> wypacz :)
[16:14] <qermit> drathir: wypaczam ci rzeczywistość
[16:15] <drathir> wypatrz lepsze by bylo ^^
[16:16] <drathir> no i orange nawed na lipnym zasiegu 2m na e51 ciaglo... na bb kolo 3 cisnie...
[16:17] <firemark> drathir: no orange akurat spoko… ale neostrada od orange to akurat porażka jest
[16:17] <firemark> trochę się wkurwiłem jak mi zablokowali port 80 'for secure'
[16:18] <drathir> firemark: nie no chyba zartujesz? ^^
[16:18] <firemark> no nie zartuje
[16:18] <firemark> jak dzwoniłem to babka uznala ze musialbym zerwać umowę i zapłacić karę
[16:18] <firemark> bo oni mają to domyślnie i nie zamierzają wyłączać
[16:18] <drathir> neo jedynie 25 blokuje... inne tylko jak cos naprawde spamowego leci ale to rzadkosc...'
[16:19] <firemark> a zablokowali 80 tylko qrwa dlatego, ze router nadawał na 80 na ten ip
[16:19] <firemark> pewnie furtka zeby admin mógł wejść i zobaczyć co jest nie tak
[16:20] <drathir> a to ciekawe naprawde, w sumie pierwszy raz sie spotykam...
[16:20] <firemark> jeszcze 22 był zablokowany ale to akurat przez zabezpieczenie w javascripcie przez "panel admina" w routerze
[16:20] <qermit> firemark: a 443?
[16:20] <firemark> qermit: nie pamietam
[16:20] <qermit> firemark: poza tym kto używa obecnie portu 80
[16:20] <qermit> lamy jakieś
[16:20] <drathir> a tak livebox domyslnie ma spi...
[16:20] <drathir> i to high jak dobrze pamietam...
[16:21] <firemark> qermit: ja korzystam, na zasadzie "patrz, mam fajne dane"
[16:21] <firemark> i musze dawać linka z portem. No brzydkie :D
[16:21] <drathir> w sensie wszystko in zablokowane tylko out zeswolone...
[16:21] <drathir> zezwolone*
[16:23] <drathir> firemark: sprobuj na routerze przekierowac 443 na 80 moze zadziala...
[16:23] <qermit> ale po co
[16:23] <drathir> no albo bezposredno...
[16:23] <qermit> skoro można dawać linki https://firemark.to-dupa/hgw
[16:23] <firemark> ;-P
[16:25] <drathir> firemark: cjdns-a postaw to sie nawet nie skapna co leci... ;p
[16:26] <firemark> juz nie mam orange jako net
[16:26] <firemark> przeszedłem na netie. I jest ok
[16:27] <drathir> firemark: a jak z synchronizacja ? nie ma problemow?
[16:27] <firemark> synchronizacją czego
[16:27] <drathir> firemark: modemu...
[16:27] <firemark> nie narzekam
[16:29] * drathir slyszal, ze na zatloczonych szafach problemy czesto bywaja... A tak to fajnie, ze smiga...
[16:29] <firemark> mam podłączony cubieboard przez 24h
[16:29] <firemark> i daje rady
[16:30] <drathir> firemark: oni tez daja soje modemy ?
[16:30] <firemark> tak
[16:30] <drathir> ciekawe jakie proponuja ;p
[16:30] <firemark> pewnie chujowe, ale wystarcza mi
[16:31] <firemark> i tak mnie w chuja zrobili
[16:31] <firemark> bo oczywiscie nikt nie wspomniał o tym, że ten modem kosztuje 200zł
[16:32] <drathir> ;/ kurczaki 60zl bys dolozyl i mialbys tplinka... to nie fajnie zroblii...
[16:32] <firemark> no szczególnie że te ciulstwo pewnie nie jest wart 30zł :-)
[19:18] <kazimiera> siemka :)
[19:18] <kazimiera> ktos korzysta z f-droid zamiast tego sklepu z google play?
[19:20] <TheNumb> nie
[19:28] <drathir> w sumie darmowe z marketu mozna bez logowania podobno instalowac...
[19:28] <TheNumb> ee chyba nie
[19:29] <drathir> TheNumb: byla stronka ktora linki bezposrednie do apk daje do pobrania...
[19:29] <TheNumb> apkmirror
[19:29] <TheNumb> masa takich stron
[19:29] <drathir> mozliwe ze to nawet ta...
[19:30] <kazimiera> hmm bo mnie interesuje to pod wzgledem braku reklam
[19:30] <TheNumb> masz reklamy w google play? :D
[19:31] <TheNumb> bo te w aplikacjach da się wyciąć w hosts
[19:38] <kazimiera> no ja wlasnie nie wiem jak to dziala. Ale ze sa od googla to wiadoma sprawa :)
[19:41] <gjm> jak nie chcesz reklam, to kup pełną wersję aplikacji :^)
[19:41] <kazimiera> tzn one nie sa od google?
[19:41] * kazimiera mysli
[19:49] <kazimiera> z drugiej strony moze ten f-droid jest bardziej wolnosciowy
[19:49] <kazimiera> maja na lewa strone c :D
[20:33] <qermit> gjm: albo wgraj customowego andka
[20:35] <gjm> na co? :>
[20:36] <qermit> na reklamy
[20:36] <qermit> ksobkowiak: a to nie jest copyleft?
[20:38] <ksobkowiak> co masz na mysli?
[20:38] <ksobkowiak> chyba miales kogos innego na mysli :)
[20:39] <Ashiren> f-droid dziala, ma tylko appki open source
[22:20] <qermit> 20:49 < kazimiera> maja na lewa strone c :D
[22:20] <qermit> 20:49 < kazimiera> z drugiej strony moze ten f-droid jest bardziej wolnosciowy
[22:20] <qermit> ksobkowiak: masz racje
[23:24] <firemark> [Quit: Wychodzi z Matrixa]
[23:24] <firemark> whoa
[23:25] <crusty> to on wie?
[23:26] <firemark> wybraniec.
[23:26] <firemark> wtf, ty też tutaj?
[23:26] <firemark> czy kanały pomyliłem
[23:26] <crusty> w sumie nawet nie zauważyłem, że odezwałeś się na innym
[23:26] <crusty> o.O
[23:26] <firemark> po chuj ten caly irc jak wszyscy są na wszystkich kanałach
[23:27] <crusty> bo nie wszędzie gjm ma +o
[23:27] <firemark> hm.
[23:30] <crusty> gdyby miał władzę absolutną w całej sieci
[23:30] <crusty> to by było co innego :o
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.464239
| 2015-11-23T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-kernel
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[09:45] <dholbach> hiya
[09:45] <dholbach> can somebody please respond to https://code.launchpad.net/~hui.wang/ubuntu/vivid/linux-firmware/linux-firmware-vivid-proposed/+merge/277954?
[09:47] <apw> dholbach, hrm, bzr merges? sforshee one for your eyes me thinks
[09:48] <dholbach> apw, I just picked it up from the sponsoring queue
[09:48] <apw> dholbach, thanks for the heads up
[09:48] <dholbach> anytime
[13:15] <sforshee> dholbach: I've already merged the changes from that linux-firmware merge req into our git. I just disapproved the request since we don't use bzr for linux-firmware.
[13:15] <dholbach> great, thanks
[15:12] <henrix> sbeattie: re. bug #1518509 -- is it possible that you actually don't have the linux-image-extra package installed?
[15:21] <henrix> sbeattie: sorry, ping'ed the wrong guy ;)
[15:49] <sbeattie> henrix: no worries.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.466972
| 2015-11-23T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu+1
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[08:50] <lordievader> Good morning.
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> Kartagis: you can try daily builds already
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> Kartagis: but alpha is end december
[13:15] <Kartagis> lotuspsychje: there was a discussion in a FB group and someone was claiming they installed 16.04 alpha, that's why I asked
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> Kartagis: not alpha, just early stage now, but it can be installed nicely
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> Kartagis: im running it also
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> Kartagis: if you like testing and bughunting in early stage, try and install :p
[13:18] <Kartagis> yea, my dayjob includes bughunting, but I don't want to risk it
[13:29] <lordievader> Yes, it ain't recommended to install Xenial on a production machine.
[14:30] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.469058
| 2015-11-23T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-irc
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[19:55] <McPeter> hi, all (sorry for my english) just to know if it's normal i lost "Ubuntu IRC Team" satut ?
[19:56] <Fuchs> McPeter: where? here you certainly still have it (cloak) If on launchpad: did you forget renewing it?
[19:57] <McPeter> i think i forget renew-it :(
[19:57] <McPeter> and few mounth i have big problem to login launchpad account
[19:57] <Fuchs> then I think it can be re-added, just wait for someone from IRCC to show up here
[19:58] <Fuchs> but you still have your launchpad account, yes? Could you link it?
[19:58] <McPeter> https://launchpad.net/~mcpeter
[19:58] <Fuchs> (si l'anglais ne vas pas: on peux aussi ecrire en Français, mais pour les autres ça va etre pire)
[19:58] <McPeter> :)
[19:58] <McPeter> i try write in english
[19:58] <Fuchs> yeah, that doesn't look too bad. Just wait for someone from IRCC to show up here
[19:58] <McPeter> but i know i'm horribilus
[19:59] <Fuchs> If you had it, I assume it can be added again
[19:59] <Fuchs> nah, it's perfectly readable
[19:59] <McPeter> :)
[19:59] <McPeter> thanks to read me
[20:41] <Pici> McPeter: renewed
[20:41] <McPeter> Pici, thanks !
[20:41] <Pici> np :)
[22:12] <niko> could you remove ubot9 from #ubuntu-fr ?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.474531
| 2015-11-23T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-23-#maas
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[04:38] <mup> Bug #1481992 changed: Upgrade of grub-pc during install fails <canonical-bootstack> <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1481992>
[16:21] <los> Just articulated what I found on friday here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1518067
[19:55] <mup> Bug #1519077 opened: MAAS assigns IP addresses on unmanaged subnets without consideration for some addresses known to be in use <networking> <MAAS:Triaged> <MAAS 1.9:New> <MAAS trunk:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519077>
[19:58] <mup> Bug #1519077 changed: MAAS assigns IP addresses on unmanaged subnets without consideration for some addresses known to be in use <networking> <MAAS:Triaged> <MAAS 1.9:New> <MAAS trunk:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519077>
[20:01] <mup> Bug #1519077 opened: MAAS assigns IP addresses on unmanaged subnets without consideration for some addresses known to be in use <networking> <MAAS:Triaged> <MAAS 1.9:New> <MAAS trunk:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519077>
[20:19] <LoRez> los: are you still finding problems?
[20:56] <mup> Bug #1519090 opened: [1.9] DHCP interface automatically obtains an IP even when the subnet is unmanaged <MAAS:New> <MAAS 1.9:New> <MAAS trunk:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519090>
[22:00] <los> I am still having problems; nodes can't get to Deploy
[22:00] <los> And I'm having 5 minute hangs on the dreaded 169.254.169.254 URL
[22:18] <los> I can't find the "supported" page, in terms of configurations, hypervisors, etc...for the cluster/regional or the nodes
[23:03] <los> roaksoax: I'm using 15.10 under my MaaS for regional/cluster. Should I be using 14.04.3?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.477855
| 2015-11-23T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-unity
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[10:16] <tsdgeos> Saviq: the changelog file looks bad at https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity-api/surfaceCursor/+merge/278297
[10:17] <Saviq> tsdgeos, d'oh
[10:17] <Saviq> tsdgeos, I think it's lp being daft
[10:17] <Saviq> checking
[10:18] <Saviq> tsdgeos, merges clean here
[10:18] <tsdgeos> k
[13:21] <tsdgeos> Saviq: https://code.launchpad.net/~lukas-kde/unity8/translateScopes/+merge/278255
[13:21] <tsdgeos> Saviq: is the reason "because we want Scopes to be a word people recognize"?
[13:22] <bregma> Saviq, mzanetti, does Canonical have any plans for any presentations in the FOSDEM Desktop Room yet?
[13:22] <mzanetti> bregma, see my mail on unitymirteam/warthogs
[13:23] <mzanetti> bregma, I'm still searching for volunteers
[13:23] <mzanetti> means, so far no plans, but I think we should.
[13:24] <bregma> mzanetti, I saw the mail on the lists, I have an idea, I just want to coordinate
[13:24] <mzanetti> cool
[13:25] <mzanetti> bregma, I'm replacing didrocks in the room organization team this year. so if you have special questions about the desktop room, I think I can help out.
[15:47] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/cleanup_assets/+merge/278340
[15:48] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, nice. any estimate on the package installed size decrease?
[15:48] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: ~400K
[15:49] <mzanetti> kk
[15:49] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: actually more like 1M
[15:49] <tsdgeos> since i also removed a 600K unused image
[15:50] <ltinkl> tsdgeos, have we tried optipng yet?
[15:50] <ltinkl> (or how's that thing called)
[15:52] <tsdgeos> ltinkl: not sure if we have tbh
[15:52] <ltinkl> tsdgeos, might spare us some more kilos
[15:56] <tsdgeos> ltinkl: guess so, yeah, this was much easier since was simply [re]moving them :D
[18:03] <mterry> greyback_, you mentioned before that ubuntu-app-launch talks to qtmir before launching an app -- what interface is that on? (I'm trying to find in code, but it's a little obtuse to someone not familiar with it)
[18:04] <greyback_> mterry: qtmir registers a callback for pre-start with ubuntu_app_launch_observer_add_app_starting
[18:04] <mterry> greyback_, ah.. via upstart mechanisms
[18:05] <mterry> err
[18:08] <mterry> upstart over dbus anyway :)
[18:08] <mterry> greyback_, thanks
[18:08] <greyback_> mterry: np, happy hunting
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.483038
| 2015-11-23T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-23-#ubuntustudio
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[20:54] <RonWhoCares> What program should I use to record HD video? I've just received a camera I ordered on E-Bay "Cheese" isn't sensing it as an HD web cam. Do I need update drivers? Thoughts?
[20:58] <zequence> RonWhoCares: You should look up if that camera has linux support
[20:59] <RonWhoCares> It comes up in Cheese
[20:59] <RonWhoCares> Just 640 x 480
[21:02] <zequence> I have very little experience in video capture myself. Let me which IRC channels might be easier to get help on
[21:02] <zequence> Other than that, I would recommend forums. linuxforums, or ubuntuforums
[21:03] <zequence> Can't find anything, but I suspect anything to do with Video For Linux.
[21:03] <zequence> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video4Linux
[21:05] <zequence> Ah, #v4l
[21:05] <zequence> That could be a good place to ask
[21:58] <froh> hi, i just did an update, ad catia started to act up, jack stopped after a while and so on
[22:00] <froh> so i deleted .config/Catia and .jackdrc. It turned out that i had to start qjackctl to get a proper .jackdrc before cadence could behave properly
[22:00] <froh> sorr , wrote catia when i meant Cadence
[22:39] <sakrecoer_> i'm affraid i can't help you with cadence froh. if no one answers try the mailinglist
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.485636
| 2015-11-23T00:00:00 |
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"RonWhoCares",
"froh",
"sakrecoer_",
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"channel": "#ubuntustudio"
}
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-us-pa
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[11:14] <rmg51> Morning
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.486150
| 2015-11-23T00:00:00 |
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"rmg51"
],
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-news
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[01:26] <Na3iL> o/ pleia2
[01:34] <pleia2> hey Na3iL
[01:35] <Na3iL> I was checking the wiki section of Ubuntu News, I think I can be more helpful in that section..
[01:35] <pleia2> if you're interested, there are still three more summaries needed in the "In the blogosphere" bit of the newsletter doc :)
[01:35] <pleia2> wiki section?
[01:35] <Na3iL> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewsTeam
[01:35] <pleia2> which part specifically?
[01:36] <pleia2> we mostly just run Fridge and UWN now, the Developer News has died off
[01:36] <Na3iL> The whole section related to wiki, I noticed there is not a team for the modifying/updating of the Wiki pages?
[01:37] <pleia2> hm, what wiki pages?
[01:37] <Na3iL> Actually, I'd an idea, why we don't add more languages to the wiki
[01:37] <pleia2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/ is updated weekly with our new issues, that's really the only wiki we actively use
[01:37] <Na3iL> Like Arabic, french etc..
[01:38] <pleia2> that's a question for jose, he worked on translating the newsletter into spanish for several issues, it's a lot of work
[01:38] <pleia2> instead we suggest other language teams release their own newsletters, with news in their languages (though no one does that yet)
[01:38] <Na3iL> I believe I can handle that work! cause english is not my native language, so I'd some problems on writing summaries.
[01:39] <pleia2> so you want to create a newsletter in your native language?
[01:40] <Na3iL> Why not! it would be more easier for peeps who doesn't speak english
[01:40] <pleia2> well, it is a lot of work :) to create the english edition we have a team of about a half dozen people each week
[01:41] <pleia2> this page covers our process: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies/HowToEdit
[01:42] <Na3iL> I see. It is really a lot of work, but it worthy
[01:42] <pleia2> what's your native language?
[01:43] <Na3iL> My native language is Arabic, but I can speak also french, english & spanish
[01:43] <pleia2> my suggestion would be to create https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/XX (where XX is your language code) and do releases that somewhat mirror what we do
[01:43] <pleia2> release on the wiki has the main source, then approach the Arabic-speaking teams to see if they want to be notified when releases happen
[01:44] <Na3iL> Yep, that is what am talking about, I thought that I should take permission before I do it :)
[01:44] <pleia2> so then you can email it to them too, and then publish wherever else (Ubuntu Arabic forums/discourse?)
[01:44] <pleia2> and just let us know on weeks you release, so we can include a link to your language edition
[01:45] <Na3iL> Okay, seems great! I will start from tomorrow
[01:45] <pleia2> this is the wiki page for the spanish version (now defunct): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/ES
[01:46] <pleia2> a polish one was attempted as well: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/PL
[01:46] <Na3iL> Nice!
[01:46] <pleia2> well, they didn't last :(
[01:47] <pleia2> you'll want to recruit volunteers to help you, it's too much work for one person
[01:47] <Na3iL> Ah! sorry for that
[01:47] <Na3iL> Yep, I will, besides I am familiar with those staff
[01:47] <Na3iL> I'd converted Lubuntu wiki pages for Ar and Fr
[01:47] <Na3iL> it is really painful :(
[01:48] * pleia2 nods
[01:51] <Na3iL> So, I will start from tomorrow converting the wiki to Ar & take around to find active people who want help.
[01:52] <pleia2> ok, good luck :)
[01:52] <Na3iL> Thanks ^^
[05:16] <pleia2> jose: if you happen to be around, still need 3 more summaries (blogosphere)
[05:16] * pleia2 copies over summaries and puts in stats
[05:18] <pleia2> editing the summaries some so it's clear whose voice it's in
[05:24] <pleia2> ergh, upgrade to wildy broke the askubuntu script
[05:24] <pleia2> wily too
[05:24] <pleia2> hm, it seems broken on debian too, maybe the script broke
[05:26] * pleia2 quick python patch to triage
[05:28] <pleia2> oh good, updating the module with pip makes it unbroken <3
[05:30] <Unit193> pip. :3
[05:30] <pleia2> it behaves sometimes :)
[05:31] <pleia2> I should just have a venv for running these scripts, but I fail at computers
[05:33] <Unit193> What package? I thought I ran those scripts without error, and I don't pip.
[05:35] <pleia2> it would be the python-requests package
[05:35] <pleia2> but I used pip so I could get the latest versions, and it's constant across debian and ubuntu
[07:15] <pleia2> Unit193: link check? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue443
[07:16] * pleia2 sends to editors and goes to get some rest
[07:21] <Unit193> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu.cat/3250-festa-wily-werewolf---ubuntu-15.10/ - http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-fr/3244-ubuntu-party-paris-15.10/ - http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-gr/3259-ubuntu-15.10-release-party/ - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting/2015-11-17
[16:06] <PaulW2U_> fixed loco links but kernel meeting link doesn't seem to exist
[17:14] <PaulW2U_> editorial review done
[17:14] <pleia2> thanks PaulW2U_
[17:17] <jose> Na3iL: yes, I started doing Spanish translations for the UWN and released Tuesdays. However, it was a lot of work, and when I missed an issue I got back on everything. I recommend what pleia2 said, release one with news in your language.
[17:17] <jose> pleia2: sorry, was stuck at airports!
[17:18] <pleia2> jose: no worries, I understand :) hope you had fun at fossetcon!
[17:18] <jose> it was really good. I hope to write something to put it on uwn for next week :)
[17:18] <tsimonq2> pleia2: is it released yet?
[17:19] <pleia2> tsimonq2: no
[17:19] <pleia2> not for several hours
[17:21] <tsimonq2> hmm
[17:21] <tsimonq2> pleia2: when is it usually released?
[17:21] <pleia2> around 00:00 utc or so
[17:21] <tsimonq2> hmm ok
[17:21] <pleia2> I'm at work now, need to wait for quiet time at work, or after work
[17:23] <tsimonq2> hmm ok
[18:33] <PaulW2U_> pleia2: have deleted kernel meeting link as does not exist
[18:33] <PaulW2U_> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news-team/2015-November/002347.html refers to a new newsletter not a meeting
[18:34] <PaulW2U_> it seems they may be using the same wiki page each week
[18:35] <PaulW2U_> bye for now - see you next weekend
[18:46] <pleia2> PaulW2U_: thanks
[18:47] <pleia2> enjoy
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-gr
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[12:35] <bobbyperu> hello?
[12:35] <bobbyperu> geia sas!
[12:35] <bobbyperu> thelw kapoia vohtheia an einai dunaton se ena provlhma pou antimetwpizw kai den exw vrei lush sto diadiktuo:)
[12:36] <kerato> ela bobby gia pes
[12:36] <bobbyperu> s'euxaristw gia thn apanthsh!
[12:37] <bobbyperu> menw esties (eimai foithtria) kai ta paidia edw exoun dhmiourghsei kapoious server me tainies, seires klp
[12:37] <bobbyperu> kai mou eipan na mpw se aftous ts servers patontas //(kai meta to onoma tou server)
[12:38] <bobbyperu> alla logw tou oti exw ubuntu den mporw na mpw stous servers
[12:38] <bobbyperu> ta ubuntu ta exw oute mhna opote eimai asxeth akoma
[12:38] <kerato> den exei sxesh to an exeis ubuntu h oti allo
[12:38] <kerato> anoikse ton firefox se mia kainourgia kartela kai kane paste th diey8ynsh pou sou edwsan
[12:39] <kerato> an einai ftp servers isws 8a htan pio volikos enas ftp client opws o filezilla
[12:39] <bobbyperu> den moy kanei kati...
[12:39] <bobbyperu> mou vgazei anazhthsh
[12:39] <bobbyperu> apo pou t katevazw to filezilla?
[12:40] <bobbyperu> apo to ubuntu center?
[12:40] <kerato> nai
[12:40] <bobbyperu> ok! twra to katevazw..
[12:42] <Phantomas> bobbyperu: από το \\server (όχι //server) υποψιάζομαι ότι σου είπανε για samba share :)
[12:43] <Phantomas> οπότε δοκίμασε να πας και στον περιηγητή αρχείων (nautilus) και να πατήσεις Αρχείο → Σύνδεση σε εξυπηρετητή...
[12:43] <bobbyperu> nai \\server ennoousa :P
[12:43] <Phantomas> μετά να επιλέξεις Κοινόχρηστο windows, και να συμπληρώσεις τα στοιχεία
[12:44] <bobbyperu> apo ekei to eixa prospathisei sthn arxh alla pali moy elege oti den ginetai sundesh
[12:44] <bobbyperu> to paidi p m to eipe exei windows opote den hksere kati parapanw gia to provlhma...
[12:45] <Phantomas> Με βάση τις πληροφορίες που μας έχεις δώσει δε νομίζω ότι μπορούμε να σου δώσουμε πιο συγκεκριμένη λύση :)
[12:48] <bobbyperu> logiko to vriskw :P giati ki egw to ematha tuxaia k aftos p m to eipe m eipe oti apla grafei sthn anazhthsh \\(onoma tou server) kai mpainei kateftheian
[12:48] <bobbyperu> opote ousiastika afto p hthela einai an uparxei kati paromoio kai st ubuntu p tha mporousa na kanw! :)
[12:48] <bobbyperu> efxaristw gia thn vohtheia pantws!!
[12:51] <Phantomas> το \\server πιθανότατα είναι smb share όπως σου είπα, το ubuntu παρέχει τρόπο σύνδεσης σε smb share μέσω του nautilus, οπότε μετά είναι μάλλον θέμα των πληροφοριών που γράφεις στον διάλογο (χρήστης, τομέας, κτλ)
[12:52] <Phantomas> αν αυτές τις πληροφορίες δεν τις ξέρει ο admin, τότε μάλλον είσαι καταδικασμένη...
[12:53] <bobbyperu> xaxaxaxa malista...katalava! entaksei den peirazei! tha kanw allh mia prospatheia mesw tou nautilus kai vlepw! euxaristw polu! :)
[20:10] <xeirwn> kalispera paides
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-dk
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[05:57] <jw4000> serveren fryser igen 504 Gateway Time-out
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.508099
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-community-team
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[07:29] <dholbach> good morning
[08:23] <davidcalle> Morning o/
[09:17] <dholbach> davidcalle, did we find anyone who could help with the prod deployment of the update?
[09:19] <davidcalle> dholbach, trying a deploy and asking
[09:19] * dholbach hugs davidcalle
[10:22] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:26] <dholbach> hey czajkowski
[10:28] <czajkowski> Happy frosty morning
[10:58] * dholbach relocates to the office, bbiab
[11:06] <foolish> new to this and just stumbled in....looking for pointers
[13:59] <balloons> Morning :)
[14:01] <dpm> marcoceppi, do you have a hangout link for the ubucon site call?
[14:01] <marcoceppi> dpm: yeah, invites been update
[14:01] <dpm> cool
[14:03] <dpm> mhall119|fossetc, around for the call? ^
[14:27] <mhall119> dpm: sorry, still recovering from fossetcon, is the call still happening?
[14:30] <dpm> mhall119, no worries. We've left the call early as Marco is ironing some bugs in the background - we'll sync up again later on
[14:31] <mhall119> ok
[14:39] <marcoceppi> dpm jcastro mhall119 the demo didnt' work because I didn't add-relation between postgresql and ubucon *facepalm*
[14:39] <marcoceppi> I'll be available in about an hour if you want to rejoin to discuss
[14:42] <mhall119> dpm: ^^ we can re-purpose our 1:1 for that
[14:44] <dpm> mhall119, marcoceppi, ok, let's do that
[14:45] <popey> mhall119, dpm just showed me https://twitter.com/ubuntufl/status/668167091804086272 which his awesome! - retweeted by libreoffice :)
[14:49] <mhall119> popey: that was ahoneybun's doing, he mentioned it to the LibreOffice guy there and he was really interested, so I showed it to him on my phone and he added it to his presentation like 2 hours before he gave it
[14:49] <mhall119> gah, google docs are killing me today :(
[14:54] <popey> yay
[14:58] <dpm> marcoceppi, jcastro, I added you to the call I had scheduled with mhall119 in ~30 if you want to re-sync on ubucon.org
[15:14] <dpm> dholbach, sorry, firefox gave up, re-joining
[15:14] <dholbach> no worries :)
[15:29] <balloons> popey, did you hear from didrocks about the tasks today?
[15:30] <popey> yup, he's provided some text for review
[15:40] <balloons> popey, do we have someone to mentor for snappy?
[15:40] <popey> balloons, Not that I've asked.
[15:40] * balloons goes to solicit
[15:54] <balloons> jose, are you home again? ;-)
[16:09] <mhall119> dpm: btw, the sponsors brochure is done now
[16:10] <dpm> mhall119, ok, cool. Let's sync up later on on this
[16:25] <davidcalle> marcoceppi, jcastro, are you up for looking at a short juju/mojo debug log I'm struggling with?
[16:25] <marcoceppi> I have very little experience with mojo, I can try to help though
[16:26] <davidcalle> marcoceppi, thanks, it's a staging instance of the developer portal (Django + postresql), I'm simply trying to deploy it: https://pastebin.canonical.com/144635/
[16:28] <marcoceppi> davidcalle: there's not enough context/verbosity in this log to pinpoint an issue
[16:28] <mhall119> davidcalle: last time this happened I think it's something IS had to fix with the environment or account
[16:29] <mhall119> IIRC, it was deej who helped fix it
[16:30] <davidcalle> marcoceppi, thanks for having a look, I'm going to follow up with IS as mhall119 suggested, since it seems to be a deeper issue
[16:32] <dholbach> dpm, balloons, davidcalle: yo yo yo :)
[16:33] <dpm> dholbach, balloons and I on our way
[16:33] <davidcalle> dholbach, omw!
[16:48] <dholbach> davidcalle, let's chat about the database problems tomorrow - is it something I broke?
[16:48] <davidcalle> dholbach, nope :)
[17:16] <jose> balloons: I got home a couple hours ago, at school now. missed my connection and got here 7h late!
[17:16] <jose> balloons: what's up?
[17:16] <balloons> jose, ohh, well don't let me stop you getting your logistics straight. When you are settled, I just wanted to talk about GCI
[17:18] <jose> balloons: I can do that now, multitasking (I'm in a photoshop class, have a computer :P)
[17:19] <mhall119> jose: glad you finally made it home, try and stay awake during school :)
[17:19] <jose> mhall119: coffee ftw!
[17:20] <mhall119> indeed :)
[17:24] <balloons> jose, so you planned on reaching out to the flavors teams. Are you still ok with doing that? It would be good to do so this week
[17:24] <jose> balloons: yes. I'm gonna be sending out those emails when I get back home later today (in ~6.5 hours)
[17:25] <balloons> jose, excellent. Getting tasks and mentors lined up this week would be good. Just 2 weeks until launch
[17:25] <jose> balloons: have we gotten any positive response so far? the Juju team is getting the tasks ready
[17:26] <balloons> jose, yes we have a few mentors, and they are starting to add tasks. Need to get the tasks on the site this week :-)
[17:26] <balloons> Still need some representation from other teams, so I'll be working on that
[17:28] <jose> I'm getting the Juju people added to the system now
[19:22] <marcoceppi> mhall119: just about done with your setup
[19:28] <marcoceppi> mhall119: http://54.210.140.51 email inbound in a few more mins
[19:53] <mhall119> marcoceppi: thanks!
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-hr
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[07:06] <BotoSmoto> Jutro, junacine !
[07:35] <SilverSpace> jutro
[07:47] <SilverSpace> https://youtu.be/bg2qKeFswAc
[07:47] <datase> YouTube: Assetto Corsa - Ferrari F1 Concept + DOWNLOAD - 0:12:40 - 1763 views - 39 likes / 0 dislikes
[07:50] <dodobas> yutro
[08:07] <SilverSpace> ima li tko 3D tv od vas
[08:07] <SilverSpace> koliko se to uopce koristi
[08:07] <dodobas> nope
[08:19] <Mmike> TI mt, ostavio sam vrata otvorena cucku po noci.
[08:19] <Mmike> Laptop mi radi na -250 stupnjeva :)
[08:19] <vileni_> mislio sam da ces reci da je pobjegao ili nesto
[08:22] <SilverSpace> no da
[08:24] <Mmike> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fordson
[08:24] <Mmike> vileni_: ne, sam mi je zima :)
[08:45] <hbogner> o/
[09:31] <Mmike> ha!
[09:31] <Mmike> znate kad napravite, recimo: ls -al m*
[09:32] <Mmike> pa shell to expanda i onda ls dobije: ls -al m1 m2 m3 m4 m5
[09:32] <Mmike> ili kaj vec
[09:32] <Mmike> e sad
[09:32] <Mmike> napisete: ls -al m<esc>*
[09:32] <Mmike> i onda shell to expanda pred vasim ocima :D
[09:46] <ivoks> a jebte paypal
[09:48] <Mmike> blazen bio sshfs
[09:48] <Mmike> customer je uploadao logova, kompresiranih, oko 12 GB, splitanih sa splitom
[09:49] <Mmike> i ja sad napravim pv sosreport-* > ~/nekud/di/to/turam
[09:49] <Mmike> i skuzim da su mi usli i .md5 fajlovi nakon kaj se oko 8GB skopiralo :)
[09:49] <Mmike> medjutoa ostalo u kesu, fino :)
[09:49] <Mmike> ivoks: kaj si dosel? :)
[09:51] <ivoks> mislim da jesam
[09:53] <ivoks> paypal je potrgan u tri pm
[09:59] <Mmike> jednom sam programirao za to, i da, potrgano je :)
[09:59] <Mmike> najgore kad te baniraju s testne platforme, jer napikavas po apiju jer dokumentacija je gora od mysqlove :)
[10:00] <ivoks> 5.11.
[10:01] <ivoks> 5.11. - procjena rasta BDP-a - 0,8-1,5%
[10:01] <ivoks> 22.11. (dva tjedna bez vlade) - procjena rasta BDP-a - 1,6-3%
[10:01] <dodobas> a da... samo da potraje :)
[10:01] <SilverSpace> :)
[10:05] <SilverSpace> ZET sa pištoljima
[10:07] <SilverSpace> vrhunska glupost
[10:08] <SilverSpace> nikada nisam mislio da cu mamu morati spremit u dom za starije i nepokretne osobe na 24 satnu njegu
[10:12] <SilverSpace> moram u skolu
[10:13] <Mmike> SilverSpace: sve nas to ceka :(
[10:13] <Mmike> moja stara ima skoro 70 godina
[10:14] <Mmike> sam ju gledam kak odlazi :/
[13:09] <SilverSpace> ha kaj su ovi ludi u skolstvo uvesti nagradivanje po uspjehu
[13:09] <SilverSpace> ovako imamo inflaciju ocjenjivanja
[13:11] <jelly> nagradivanje profesora ili ucenika?
[13:11] <ivoks> dobra, dobra!
[13:11] <ivoks> http://news-bar.rtl.hr/vijesti/zagreb/vojni-analitichari-slozhni-uvoenjem-oruzhja-zet-postaje-trea-najmnogoljudni
[13:12] <SilverSpace> jelly: profesora
[13:13] <SilverSpace> evo i primjer kod moje sestre koja radi u dvije skole
[13:13] <SilverSpace> isti razredi isti program
[13:13] <SilverSpace> u jednoj 4.4 prosjek a u drugoj 1.9
[13:14] <SilverSpace> zadnji testovi
[13:15] <SilverSpace> pokaz u vis
[13:20] <jelly> > zabrinuti student Ivan (31)
[13:21] <SilverSpace> lol
[13:50] <jelly> scp -o Cipher=arcfour -o Compression=no ftw
[13:50] <jelly> jdk-7u91-windows-x64.exe 100% 140MB 46.7MB/s 00:03
[14:01] <Mmike> jelly++ :)
[14:28] <jelly> #onokad tab-completion za chgrp kompletira točno onaj fajl koji nema tu grupu
[14:48] <Mmike> ONO KAD MONGODB ODE U KURAC JER JE MONGODB A NEMRES LJUDIMA OBJASNIT DA TO NE KORISTE
[14:48] <Mmike> ne kuzim
[14:48] <Mmike> kak moras bit mutav
[14:48] <Mmike> ne kuzim!
[14:53] <jelly> probaj im objasnit kaj je to technical debt
[14:53] <jelly> i kak nesto izgleda lijepo i jednostavno i sve radi odmah, a na kraju ispadne kurac i neupotrebljivo
[14:53] <Mmike> http://cryto.net/~joepie91/blog/2015/07/19/why-you-should-never-ever-ever-use-mongodb/
[14:53] <Mmike> tu fino covjek opisao
[14:54] <Mmike> a veli mi lik 'anecdotal evidence'
[14:54] <Mmike> i onda sad me zove 'eee, cuj, znas, potrgalo se'
[14:54] <jelly> pitaj ga koliko primjera bi prihvatio da ne bude anectdotal... 5? 50?
[14:55] <jelly> da li bi ikad prihvatio argument defective by design?
[15:04] <jelly> sta nece izmisliti... https://github.com/acozzette/BUSE
[15:12] <jelly> i https://openvz.org/Ploop
[15:13] <jelly> ^^ ono kad se pravimo da je filesystem lvm
[19:28] <hbogner> o/
[19:33] <Mmike> vileni_, imam dva 500GB diska, hitachi neki i segata neka
[19:50] <Vlado9A3CY> dobra večer
[21:08] <hbogner> laku noc
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.528570
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-discuss
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[00:14] <daftykins> aww yeah, few home truths getting told at last
[00:15] <pauljw> :)
[00:20] <latrodectus> damn troll in #ubuntu
[00:20] <daftykins> indeed, that user has been in under several nicknames masquerading as different folk and continues to ask stupid questions
[00:21] <latrodectus> does he use the same host every time?
[00:21] <latrodectus> because if he does just /slience him
[00:21] <latrodectus> don't ban or kick
[00:21] <daftykins> unfortunately, i don't log or take note to spot - but i did notice a theme to the mtr
[00:21] <latrodectus> i always log
[00:21] <latrodectus> plus #ubuntu is always logged anyways
[00:22] <daftykins> yeah, only chat though not joins for hostmasks etc i thought?
[00:22] <daftykins> i avoid logging for my sanity :)
[00:22] <daftykins> "live in the moment"
[00:22] <latrodectus> lol
[00:23] <latrodectus> i like having the ability to throw words back at the stupid ones
[00:23] <OerHeks> "always be helpfull" grinn
[00:24] <pauljw> :)
[00:24] <daftykins> i think i might know this Vic from another channel as it goes, before the paranoid VPN usage, i think i saw an mtr go to an aorta.net address
[00:25] <daftykins> but i don't fully understand what aorta is
[00:27] <pauljw> brb
[00:27] <OerHeks> hmm 129,95 refurbished http://store.bq.com/es/ubuntu-edition-e-4-5-outlet
[00:30] <daftykins> mmm super low spec
[00:30] <daftykins> the screen in particular
[02:19] <pauljw> gnite all
[02:27] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[02:33] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Most still here .. rest well ?
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> yeah had a good sleep Bashing-om
[02:34] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Great, then "they" can start wearing on your nerves . "they" have frazed mine out ( daftykins is holding up well ) .
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> lol
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: the_count still here to solve things??
[02:35] <daftykins> =]
[02:35] <daftykins> Bashing-om: sleep well o/
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> you guys spent hours on him already
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> hey daftykins
[02:35] <daftykins> hiya
[02:36] <daftykins> sec just settling into bed :D
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/open-source-amdgpu-linux-driver-released-supports-the-latest-amd-gpus-496545.shtml
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> cosy irc :p
[02:39] <daftykins> yep :D
[02:41] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: I had heard yesterday that AMD had released the driver . Awaiting now to know how it works on the real world .
[02:41] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[02:43] * daftykins clicks to see what this one will be called from xorg's point of view
[02:44] <daftykins> is it 'amdgpu' ?
[02:45] <lotuspsychje> not sure
[02:45] <Bashing-om> daftykins: No idea .. I had for some reason expected " FGLRX-updates" .
[02:46] <daftykins> i guess time will tell
[02:48] <Bashing-om> The indications I understood, the fix was now in the repo .. lotuspsychje Ya booting 15.10 to see ?
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: im on trusty and xenial upstairs :p
[02:50] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: daftykins Well ,, I guess we await another ginny pig to see .
[02:50] <lotuspsychje> lol
[02:51] * daftykins grins widely, in a slightly concerning way
[02:52] <daftykins> amdgpu is going to have TearFree :O
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> !find xf86
[02:55] <Bashing-om> To this time I can not cross reference to see if the new driver is in the repo .
[02:55] <Bashing-om> shucks.
[02:55] <lotuspsychje> !find amdgpu
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> another source: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMDGPU-Xorg-1.0
[02:56] <daftykins> i think it'd need to be the long name
[02:57] <daftykins> maybe like a "xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu"
[02:58] <Bashing-om> thers a thought ..lemee see .
[02:59] <daftykins> but thenthe article said xf86-video-amdgpu so i'm not sure if they are renamed by Canonical
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> driver might be just named amdgpu perhaps
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> as radeon
[02:59] <daftykins> i think that's just the name as per you would configure in xorg.conf though
[02:59] <daftykins> radeon is still xserver-xorg-video-radeon in package form, no?
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> lotuspsychje@R00TB0X:~$ apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> xserver-xorg-video-radeon:
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> Geïnstalleerd: 1:7.3.0-1ubuntu3.1
[03:03] <lotuspsychje> we findout soon on R9 users :p
[03:05] <daftykins> ok i'm going folks, g'night and i'll see you in the week :)
[03:06] <daftykins> next time on a whole new episode of... #ubuntu !
[03:06] <lotuspsychje> nite nite daftykins
[03:27] <cdshan> Hi! Could some one help me out with the upgrade from Ubuntu 14.10 to 15.04? I had tried the documentation available on the net but am not able to succeed. some inputs would be very much appreciated!
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> cdshan: this is ubuntu discuss channel mate
[03:46] <cdshan> lotuspsychje: what is the right channel to discuss about this?
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> cdshan: thats not a discussion, but an ubuntu support question
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> cdshan: so in #ubuntu
[03:48] <cdshan> ok, thanks for the info
[08:51] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon TJ-
[12:53] <TJ-> hiya :)
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/open-source-amdgpu-linux-driver-released-supports-the-latest-amd-gpus-496545.shtml
[12:57] <TJ-> About time - only 15 years late
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> :p
[12:59] <TJ-> Let's hope it has better quality than the fglxr
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> yeah, now to wait for R9 users :p
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: http://news.softpedia.com/news/puppy-linux-based-studio-13-37-aims-to-be-the-ultimate-pro-audio-distro-gallery-496553.shtml
[13:19] <cfhowlett> ... cause ANOTHER linux audio distro is exactly what we need! :)
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> :p
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> 'the best!'
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> hi lordievader
[13:32] <lordievader> o/
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[14:02] <EriC^^> hey lotuspsychje
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> hows the tv doing?
[14:02] <EriC^^> it's good :P
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> movie overtime :p
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> did you see blackhat yet EriC^^ ?
[14:03] <EriC^^> nope
[14:03] <EriC^^> any good?
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> yeah very good
[14:04] <EriC^^> cool
[14:04] * lotuspsychje throws a redhat to OerHeks
[14:04] <EriC^^> TJ-: how come we can upgrade releases to the current development one but not jump to previous ones?
[14:05] <EriC^^> TJ-: like bumbar upgraded from 14.04 to 15.10 using do-release-upgrade -d , users usually have to go to 14.10 then 15.04 then 15.10
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: -d, --devel-release
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> Check if upgrading to the latest devel release is possible
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> dont think downgrade is possible on ubuntu
[14:09] <cfhowlett> it's not an option
[14:09] <EriC^^> yeah, i know, how come users can't jump from 14.04 to let's say 15.10 ( if it's not development )
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> lts and non-lts are divided
[14:10] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, because ubuntu only upgrades sequentially. sole exception: LTS
[14:11] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: yeah, but with -d it upgraded from lts to non-lts skipping 3-4 releases
[14:11] <EriC^^> i mean what's the idea behind it
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> wrong command on the latest LTS
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> resulted badly
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> next in the row is 16.04 and 16.10
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> but as they dont exist yet...
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: i also used do-release-upgrade -d from 15.10 to next release 16.04
[14:14] <EriC^^> yeah
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: but i wanted the early stage testing
[14:17] <EriC^^> like in couples months 16.04 comes out, if somebody is using 14.10 right now, he can just jump to it if he wants
[14:17] <EriC^^> instead of going 14.10 > 15.04 > 15.10 > 16.04
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> i dont think so
[14:18] <EriC^^> was wondering why he can't just do that straight away when 16.04 comes out, unless using -d isn't recommended and it's dangerous or something
[14:18] <EriC^^> ( i mean it might break the system more than the usual 14.10 > 15.04 > 15.10 > 16.04 )
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: i think the normal way is do-release-upgrade
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> but the -d might force it
[14:21] <cfhowlett> I'd feel much safer doing a clean install
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: blueskaj might know more of this
[14:23] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: xenial kernel is what?
[14:23] <EriC^^> i think bumbar is on xenial not 15.10
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: 4.2 and soon receive 4.3 i think
[14:24] <EriC^^> 4.2.0-19 is xenial?
[14:24] <EriC^^> !info linux-image-generic wily
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> yeppers
[14:27] <EriC^^> he says he can't update
[14:27] <EriC^^> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/InRelease
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> sudo apt-get update?
[14:27] <EriC^^> yeah, the file is there though just checked in a web browser
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: or maybe other ppa's installed for his previous ubuntu?
[14:27] <EriC^^> nope the xenial main stuff
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> weird
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> i recently updated on my xenial box
[14:28] <EriC^^> i guess he has connection issues
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> afternoon BluesKaj
[14:30] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:30] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: eric just had a trusty user upgrade to 15.10 with do-release-upgrade -d
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: can you explain the logic of this?
[14:31] <EriC^^> not me, he upgraded before we even met :P
[14:31] <cfhowlett> yeah that sounds way suspect ...
[14:34] <BluesKaj> nope, I can't, unless he upgraded to 16.04 from 15.10...he's mistaken I'm sure
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> ah
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: so its not possible to upgrade lts to non-lts?
[14:34] <BluesKaj> -d is devel OS
[14:35] <EriC^^> i think cause he had 14.04 he went to 16.04
[14:35] <EriC^^> at first he said he was on 15.10 from 14.04 using -d
[14:35] <BluesKaj> of course it is , just disable the LTS only upgrade in the package manager
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: but i upgraded also 15.10 to 16.04 with -d
[14:36] <BluesKaj> yes but -d mean developement OS , not official release OS
[14:36] <cfhowlett> that would be normal.
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> ah
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> ok teatime here
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> :p
[14:38] <BluesKaj> methinks there's some confusion or maybe some BS involved with your trusty user
[14:38] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje,^
[14:42] <BluesKaj> if he used -d then he mostlikely received 16.04, not 15.10, if he left the "LTS only upgrade" enabled, which is the default status afaik
[14:43] <EriC^^> BluesKaj: yeah it turned out he had 16.04
[14:43] <BluesKaj> EriC^^, right
[14:43] <EriC^^> he said 15.10 at first, so i was wondering how could he jump from 14.04 to 15.10 without going through 14.10 and 15.04 by using -d , didn't make much sense
[14:44] <BluesKaj> exactly
[14:44] <EriC^^> like if someone had 13.10 and 16.04 is about to get released in a week they can just use -d and jump straight to that
[14:44] <EriC^^> but usually cant and have to go a bunch of releases up first
[14:45] <BluesKaj> dunno , never tried skipping releases with -d
[15:01] <TJ-> I recall doing some work with the release-upgrader-core some years ago. with 'do-release-upgrade --devel' it'll fetch http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-development and take the latest "Supported: 1" entry
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> yes
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[18:35] <lordievader> o/
[18:35] <daftykins> \o
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> hey lordievader i tested unity8/mir on xenial :p
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> hi daftykins
[18:35] <lordievader> Blegh Unity...
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:35] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: How was it? Horrible?
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> hehe shiny bling like ubuntu touch :p
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> but still shows as the phone version, alot of work needed until its desktop version
[18:37] <lordievader> Is it usable yet?
[18:37] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: mouse support works to slide the scopes and browsing works
[18:37] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: but again, it doesnt look like a desktop yet, much more phone
[18:38] <lordievader> Brr
[18:38] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> who knows what they will do with plasma in the future :p
[18:58] <daftykins> wow at 3x to ask 'which OS are you in?'
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> prrrt
I installed Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 on my desktop with Asus Z170-K motherboard and legacy mode enabled. The drive is formatted with GPT and already has Windows on it.
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> thats his first question
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> how are we suppose to know
[19:00] <lordievader> How is that a question?
[19:00] <lordievader> It mises the question mark and the... uhh... question.
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: hello mate
[19:04] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: O/ .. 'Nother lovely day in the neighborhood .
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> : )
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> i like uefi only when ubuntu boots it single :p
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> lucky for our users we have EriC^^ :p
[19:09] <OerHeks> i like uefa only when .... wait
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> hahaha
[19:09] <OerHeks> there are vendors that build their own uefi
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu and football even dont match OerHeks
[19:09] <EriC^^> i wish tj was here
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: got a question?
[19:10] <EriC^^> i remember he had a bright idea about converting without booting into uefi mode
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: converting what
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> don't believe him
[19:10] <EriC^^> ah i remember
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> lol MonkeyDust
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> never saw you was here MonkeyDust
[19:11] <EriC^^> loading the efivars module or something so grub can access it from a legacy booted session
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> (have no clue what it's about)
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: there's a little button on your irc client, 'add to favorites' :p
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> we all have our talents here and crazy ideas
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> especially OerHeks is also crazy
[19:16] <daftykins> EriC^^: :D
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> i hate crazy people
[19:16] * lotuspsychje hides
[19:16] <EriC^^> daftykins: i like this guy, he's quick! :D
[19:16] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: if so, why do you join us in #ubuntu ? :D
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: we need einsteins in this world!
[19:16] <daftykins> EriC^^: lol he took many minutes to even say which OS he was in before :(
[19:16] <daftykins> EriC^^: i guess i warmed him up for you :P
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> hahaha
[19:17] <EriC^^> haha
[19:17] <EriC^^> :D
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> warming up support
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> thats new :p
[19:17] * lotuspsychje gonna warm up some trolls for OerHeks
[19:20] <lotuspsychje> ioria is a weird guy...oops shhhh
[19:20] <lotuspsychje> he's here
[19:20] <ioria> yes, i'm
[19:20] <lotuspsychje> :p
[19:21] <ioria> :þ
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> i hate weird guys
[19:24] <lotuspsychje> lol
[19:24] <ioria> indeed... i hate myself
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> ioria: ok give 50 euro for the psychological advise to me now :p
[19:26] <ioria> lotuspsychje, come again , please ????
[19:26] <lotuspsychje> lol
[19:26] <lotuspsychje> ioria: its a joke
[19:26] <ioria> oh, Crazy World ? my kingdom for an horse !
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> https://news.drweb.com/show/?i=9709&lng=en
[19:27] <daftykins> guruprased is another skylake upgrader then
[19:28] <daftykins> no doubt tripping up on early EFIs :D
[19:38] <EriC^^> man chkdsk sucks, this guy installed linux yesterday, windows somehow got corrupted wouldn't mount
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> windows 10 brrrr
[19:38] <EriC^^> ntfsfix said to use chkdsk, so he used chkdsk from a windows cd, today his partition mounted, except it only had System Volume Information in it
[19:39] <EriC^^> nothing in testdisk either
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> weird
[19:39] <EriC^^> he didn't have any stuff on it though, said it was from work
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: you sure he followed correct steps to install dualboot uefi?
[19:40] <EriC^^> he said he used the installer's other option to install to the empty space
[19:40] <EriC^^> i wanted to ask him how he shrunk the partition and if he booted into it after shrinking a couple times cause some people say it's recommended
[19:41] <EriC^^> didn't find out though if that's what got it corrupted, his smart data looked clean
[19:41] <EriC^^> i think it's a new 128gb ssd
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> ssd should be fine, but weird that windows is gone
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> if he's sure that he installed?
[19:42] <EriC^^> *shrug*
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: is it a hybrid ssd?
[19:42] <EriC^^> dunno, it was win7 fwiw
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> wb BluesKaj
[19:47] <BluesKaj> thanks lotuspsychje
[19:52] <daftykins> EriC^^: i think that user did more than you were told ;)
[19:52] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: I have learned to watch out : Intel Smart Response Technology - dual boot . embedded data .
[19:52] <OerHeks> maybe it had bitlocker
[19:53] <OerHeks> :-D
[19:53] <daftykins> i've had win7 installed beside a xubuntu install for ages, keep upgrading xubuntu... upgraded to win10 and installed several new builds since, not one hint of trouble
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: i had a medion box once with weird intel setting blocking new Os install once
[19:53] <daftykins> ah the boot sector protection? :D
[19:54] <JanC> boot sector protection doesn't really work outside DOS, right? :P
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: keep forgetting its setting name
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> intel something something...
[19:55] <daftykins> intel break lotus' stuff, i think
[19:55] <daftykins> :D
[19:55] <daftykins> JanC: sure does
[19:55] <Bashing-om> Once upon a time in windows 7 with SSD and fast startup ... welp that was MS doing a raid thing .
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> lol
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> hehe daftykins
[19:56] <JanC> early boot sector protection worked purely at the BIOS level and modern OSs don't use that after boot
[19:59] <daftykins> my memory is hazy, it could've been as long ago as Windows XP that setup got booted by for trying to do it when that option was on
[20:58] <Kaosu> I was wondering if anyone might take a look a Ubuntu security guide I decided to write. Feel free to PM me with feedback. You can find the guide at: https://codezero.me/Ubuntu-Security-Guide/
[20:59] <lotuspsychje> Kaosu: looks good, but i would add some more stuff
[20:59] <Kaosu> Such as?
[20:59] <lotuspsychje> Kaosu: like intrusion detectors
[21:00] <lotuspsychje> Kaosu: fail2ban for ssh users
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> Kaosu i scrolled quickly in your manual... there's this too... http://hardenubuntu.com/
[21:00] <lotuspsychje> !security | Kaosu and here
[21:00] <Kaosu> My plan was to split the guide up into two parts, but make them a complete guide when combined together. The first half would be focused on home users and the second half would be aimed at administrators/power users.
[21:01] <Kaosu> So, the second half would cover all of those suggested topics.
[21:01] <lotuspsychje> good idea
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> Kaosu and add a short content list too, in the beginning of the document
[21:01] <lordievader> Perhaps a section about rkhunter too?
[21:02] <lotuspsychje> good idea lordievader
[21:03] <Kaosu> I made a note to add information about rkhunter in the "malware" section.
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> Kaosu another thing: try sudo apt update, see what's different <-- not apt-get
[21:03] <lotuspsychje> !usn | Kaosu yeah read here also
[21:05] <Kaosu> I might actually add a section to the guide like "Current Security Issues" and just grab the top entries from the USN
[21:05] <MonkeyDust> Kaosu and avoid referring to yourself, as in 'I would prefer'
[21:06] <Kaosu> Monkey: Thanks for pointing that out. I will go through and fix the areas where I did that.
[21:06] <Kaosu> I'm not a very good writer, but I am getting better about not doing things like that.
[21:08] <lotuspsychje> nite nite all
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[00:03] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Wait. "sudo apt-get autoremove" or "sudo apt-get autoremove libreoffice"?
[00:03] <k1l_> a)
[00:03] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: How does that know to remove LibreOffice? :o
[00:03] <AlexQ> VictoriaXOXO: check out "man autoremove"
[00:04] <AlexQ> uum, man apt-get of course
[00:04] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: autoremove removes packages that are not marked as needed by other packages.
[00:05] <Bashing-om> AlexQ: Under systend it is "systenctl" to control services; See : http://xmodulo.com/use-systemd-system-administration-debian.html .
[00:05] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: I'm sorry for being stupid, but is LibreOffice the ONLY thing that is not needed by other packages? I don't understand how that command can now to just remove LibreOffice and nothing else.
[00:05] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: that is the magic of the package-system
[00:06] <Bashing-om> AlexQ: Typos // systen/system* .
[00:06] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: have a read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[00:06] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Would you get upset if I just try "sudo apt-get autoremove libreoffice*" instead?
[00:07] <snarkbark> so apparently if I set my hardware acceleration in xorg config to UXA the problem with my graphics freezing up when in full screen goes away
[00:07] <snarkbark> buuuuut the lag is unbearable
[00:07] <AlexQ> VictoriaXOXO: That is not a correct syntax
[00:07] <snarkbark> anyone else ever deal with this or know where I should go to get answers?
[00:07] <VictoriaXOXO> AlexQ: Why not?
[00:07] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: I'll read.
[00:07] <AlexQ> VictoriaXOXO: autoremove doesn't require nor accept package list
[00:07] <daftykins> autoremove does not take a package as a parameter
[00:07] <daftykins> learn to read man pages.
[00:07] <VictoriaXOXO> Ahhhh.
[00:07] <k1l_> AlexQ: it does accept packages
[00:08] <VictoriaXOXO> Oh, lord. XD
[00:08] <OerHeks> VictoriaXOXO, are you writing a book?
[00:08] <daftykins> OerHeks: feels like it doesn't it, "100 ways to perform pointless actions on Ubuntu"
[00:08] <AlexQ> k1l_: So what does it do when you pass a package name then?
[00:08] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: No. Why would you think that? :P
[00:09] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: you really should start to use manpages. that will answer 99% of what you are asking about programs.
[00:09] <AlexQ> OerHeks: :D :D
[00:09] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: And then YOU pm ME about making snarky remakrs? Come on... ;)
[00:09] <k1l_> !manpage | VictoriaXOXO
[00:09] <OerHeks> I do, "things not to do with Ubuntu"
[00:09] <snarkbark> very frustrating :<
[00:09] <k1l_> AlexQ: same as ap-get remove package, apt-get autoremove. just in one step
[00:09] <daftykins> i'm allowed (:
[00:09] <VictoriaXOXO> So am I.
[00:09] <AlexQ> k1l_: Hm, interesting, not in the man page I guess.
[00:10] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: AlexQ: daftykins: So does autoremove accept package names or not?
[00:10] <daftykins> read the man page and find out first hand
[00:11] <VictoriaXOXO> Lol.
[00:11] <daftykins> what? it's how we learned things, why can't you?
[00:11] <k1l_> AlexQ: it doesnt explicitly tell you that, right.
[00:12] <VictoriaXOXO> 95% of the time this "support" channel is just like a find-it-out-for-yourself-kick-in-the-butt.
[00:12] <VictoriaXOXO> For elitists to feel good about themselves.
[00:12] <VictoriaXOXO> Still SOME helpful people, though.
[00:12] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: we try to help you help yourself. we want you to solve your issues on your own in the future so we can help new beginners to get used to ubuntu.
[00:12] <AlexQ> No, for people with serious problems to have a chance to get help.
[00:12] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Yes, I know, but I didn't point that towards you.
[00:13] <VictoriaXOXO> AlexQ: You tell me to read the man page when it's not even in there. You're spreading FUD.
[00:13] <pauljw> VictoriaXOXO: man apt-get
[00:13] <AlexQ> VictoriaXOXO: The function of "autoremove" is well explained in "man apt-get".
[00:13] <VictoriaXOXO> pauljw: I'm reading the link k1l_ gave me. :)
[00:13] <freakyy> hi all. why does vim when i use arrow keys print Ds etc. and and backspace doesnt work and so on?
[00:14] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: it's not elitist, it's pointing out how you refuse to learn how to learn for yourself
[00:14] <freakyy> can i do somethin aobut it?
[00:14] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: no need to make a drama about it and offend volunteer helpers in here.
[00:14] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: we have been very very very patient. its time to learn to fly now :)
[00:14] <ZeroSnuup> ..
[00:15] <AlexQ> freakyy: But have you used vim before and it worked well?
[00:15] <freakyy> AlexQ: no fresh install
[00:16] <AlexQ> freakyy: But I mean, do you know *how* to use vim? Because it is a bit different. For something simpler and more intuitive try nano.
[00:16] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: k1l_: What is the point of this channel or ANY forum or whatever out there? Everything has already been asked and everything has already been answered. People should just isolate themselves and use search engines to solve their problems. Right?
[00:16] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: no need for drama now
[00:16] <freakyy> AlexQ: i know how vim works yes
[00:16] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: That was my last question regarding this. :)
[00:16] <freakyy> it works on my server
[00:16] <freakyy> i googled it i might find help there thank you
[00:16] <freakyy> :)
[00:17] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: i think someone needs to grow up and stop acting so entitled.
[00:17] <latrodectus> VictoriaXOXO: because people like interaction
[00:17] <daftykins> let's move on now.
[00:17] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: we cant keep everyone in here asking us to read the manpages for them. so we try to educate them to help themselves. if they still have issues they are free to ask here of course.
[00:17] <daftykins> remember, if you have any issues with the volunteer support, you are absolutely welcome to request a refund
[00:17] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: I need to adress what daftykins just said. daftykins: Dude. You threaten me in private messages and then you act the same way back? LOL!
[00:17] <AlexQ> :D
[00:18] <VictoriaXOXO> I'm done now.
[00:18] <latrodectus> VictoriaXOXO: if you want to continue this please do so at #ubuntu-discuss
[00:18] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: just imagine every ubuntu user would still in here ask the easiest things. this would be a very full channel and a very noisy one.
[00:18] <VictoriaXOXO> latrodectus: Nope. I'm done.
[00:18] <latrodectus> ^ #ubuntu-discuss
[00:18] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Easy according to whom, though? ;)
[00:19] <latrodectus> k1l_ | VictoriaXOXO | anyone_else_inSthis_discussion
[00:19] <daftykins> users capable of using a search engine
[00:19] <VictoriaXOXO> latrodectus: Nope. We're done now. :)
[00:21] <taehyub> #join e.kr
[00:27] <freakyy> AlexQ: got it working.
[00:27] <freakyy> guys, is there a fast way to add desktop icons? like a desktop icon creator?
[00:29] <OerHeks> freakyy, i think you need unity-tweak for that
[00:29] <OerHeks> !info unity-tweak
[00:29] <freakyy> lemme apt-cache search it
[00:30] <OerHeks> -tool
[00:30] <OerHeks> !info unity-tweak-tool
[00:31] <freakyy> OerHeks: hm, i installed it but where can i add icons now?
[00:33] <OerHeks> hmm not sure, i thought that tool unlocks it
[00:34] <freakyy> OerHeks: unlocks what?
[00:34] <OerHeks> the option to place desktop icons
[00:35] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: Any progress with the upgrade-related smooth scrolling issue? I am switching to the fresh install either way, the old one is just... slow. Especially booting, but dunno why, maybe will check with systemctl these systemctl tools out of interest
[00:36] <freakyy> OerHeks: no the problem is, i always have to manually create desktop icon files. i dont want that. i want an automated way.
[00:39] <Bashing-om> AlexQ: Naww .. slow on the learning curve here ..Still in progress with the_count .
[00:39] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: Interestingly, smooth scrolling works flawlessly in crash report windows (on that upgraded OS) :D I mean, with no jitter.
[00:40] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: My gut tells me it is related to some gtk libs or sth, not necessarily drivers or Xorg. But I am leaving that now, my old OS has other problems as well
[00:40] <Bashing-om> AlexQ: Adds to the notion it is a lost in translation thing - somewhere .
[00:43] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok... back
[00:45] <freakyy> ok i dotn know - my vim is messed up. if i press i then backspace it doesnt erase if i press arrow keys it prints B and Ds into the file. i cant edit like this. can anyone tell me what i should add into vimrc file to fix this?
[00:46] <somsip> freakyy: set nocompatible
[00:47] <freakyy> somsip: thank you so much ;D lemme see if it works
[00:47] <freakyy> is th .vimrc in ~/.vimrc?
[00:47] <freakyy> in ubuntu?
[00:47] <somsip> freakyy: in everything
[00:50] <freakyy> thank you very much - it worked :)
[00:50] <somsip> freakyy: aye. It'll do that
[00:50] <freakyy> why dont they do this by default
[00:50] <freakyy> i have to set it every time
[00:50] <somsip> freakyy: http://superuser.com/questions/543317/what-is-compatible-mode-in-vim
[00:51] <Nick714> Hello
[00:51] <Bashing-om> the_count: Re-install ' sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-headers-3.19.0-33 ; sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-headers-3.19.0-33-generic ; sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-3.19.0-33-generic ; sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-extra-3.19.0-33-generic ' . Reboot into the -53 kernel .. see what is now .
[00:51] <freakyy> okt hanks :)
[00:52] <Nick714> So I have a VPS I made on my computer. So, it can connect to the internet and download files, but when I do ifconfig my adress is 127.0.0.1. Any ideas how?
[00:53] <the_count> Bashing-om: Wait a second... I am in the -53 kernel currently... And, is there any other precausions we should make to make sure it is completeley removed?
[00:53] <freakyy> is there any way i can watch a package for updates? like the fglrx and fglrx-updates packages
[00:53] <Nick714> Does it take on the IP of the machine I am running
[00:56] <owen1> every 3 seconds i see a modal popup with the title: OpenSSH. it ask me for the password of a my server. no matter what i type it opens again which makes my laptop unusable until i disconnect from the internet. any clues?
[00:56] <Bashing-om> the_count: I have extermne difficulty keeping up with what you think . You told me earlier that you were booting a 3.16 kernel ! . // I confirmed from your last paste that the 3.19.0-33 was all removed ( or so I thought).
[00:56] <owen1> (currently i use another laptop)
[00:57] <Nick714> Any ideas on why when I have full internet on my Ubuntu Server but no ipv4 ip? I do ifconfig and it says it's 127.0.0.1 :(
[00:58] <the_count> Bashing-om: You are thinking correctly, just wannted to make sure we were doing everything right since the separations in time between this
[00:59] <Bashing-om> the_count: K .. see your " http://paste.ubuntu.com/13459048/ " 3.19.0-33 is gone gone .
[01:00] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok... Would it be a good idea to reboot before reinstalling the new kernel?
[01:01] <daftykins> Nick714: could you share an "ip a" in a pastebin? PM it if you're worried about sharing
[01:02] <Bashing-om> the_count: Wont't hurt to reboot .. but, I do not see how it will help .. but .. could be cheap insurance to reboot prior .
[01:03] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, rebooting, then i'll do this
[01:03] <Nick714> daftykins: I will but one question... When I do "ifconfig" the lo is basically connected to nothing and eth0 has an IP. So lo is wifi I think and it is connected to my Mac's internet, is it basically connected to my Mac sort of through Ethernet which is why it's in eth0?
[01:04] <daftykins> Nick714: lo is loopback, 127.0.0.1
[01:04] <daftykins> or ::1 for v6
[01:05] <Nick714> daftykins: Ok I will PM you the ip a, can I blur out the inet adress (thats the IP right?
[01:05] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok... Shall I now reinstall?
[01:05] <daftykins> Nick714: err, a v4 on which interface?
[01:06] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yepper .. re-install the 3.19.0-33 kernel .
[01:06] <Abe> how can you save that firefox saved the html5 by default. It always goes back to the flash player
[01:07] <Abe> blah*
[01:07] <Swish> seriously?
[01:07] * Nick714 slaps daftykins around a bit with a large fishbot
[01:07] <Nick714> How do I PM you daftykins
[01:08] <Swish> Are we 12 years old again? Whoever's spamming, be thoughtful of other people please. It's not appreciated.
[01:12] <DalekSec> Nick714, the_count: They can't read you as you aren't registered and this channel has muted unregistered users due to the spam above.
[01:12] <the_count> DalekSec: There, registered
[01:13] <DalekSec> the_count: We can read you now!
[01:13] <k1l_> !register
[01:13] <the_count> DalekSec: +1 for your name
[01:13] <DalekSec> Thanks.
[01:14] <the_count> Bashing-om: Shall I now reboot again?
[01:14] <freakyy> is there a better screenshot utility than the default gnome screenshot available?
[01:14] <freakyy> because it doesnt auto-name screenshots and always asks again for the place to store screenshots
[01:14] <DalekSec> !es | Honoret28
[01:23] <the_count> Bashing-om: Rebooted
[01:24] <Bashing-om> the_count: Any change with the touchpad ?
[01:25] <daftykins> out of curiosity what does the touchpad do wrong again? :)
[01:25] <the_count> Bashing-om: No...
[01:25] <the_count> Bashing-om: I have to go once again, get a shower... So I'll talk to you later
[01:25] <RandomNoob> please write me if you know python guys. In python channel nobody is answering
[01:26] <the_count> daftykins: Anything involving multiple fingers is not working, scroll, right click, etc...
[01:26] <Bashing-om> the_count: Respond to daftykins Please befire ya go .
[01:26] <the_count> Bashing-om: Beat you
[01:26] <clorisu> hi, it seems my archive file is broken. Does anybody know what went wrong with this archive file? http://imgur.com/a/5ibqx (First image is the main directory, following two are the subfolders) -- When I transferred it originally it was just the 108.MOV file which was 3.7GB, but it split into that weird encryption folder which is 3.7GB and the 108.MOV is now 0 bytes? Is there a way to fix this, if not is there a way to recover just a portion of the data inst
[01:26] <clorisu> ead of the whole so the video is somewhat watchable?
[01:26] <Bashing-om> Hey, when yer fast ,, yer fast :) .
[01:27] <daftykins> the_count: oh right, which is confirmed working in another OS such as Windows?
[01:31] <the_count> daftykins: Yes
[01:32] <the_count> daftykins: i'll beback in 10 min and you can question[crossthrough]interogate me some more
[01:33] <daftykins> heh ok
[01:35] <cooldman224> Anyone encountered the hd format bug when installing where the formatting is stuck at 33%? Currently can't install kubuntu... I tried to wipe the hd with gparted but didn't help
[01:38] <daftykins> cooldman224: did you delete partitions only, or more?
[01:39] <cooldman224> daftykins: I deleted all partitions on the hd
[01:39] <daftykins> ok, that will have left the partition table
[01:39] <daftykins> which kind of system is this? anything special about it? laptop/desktop/VM ?
[01:40] <cooldman224> a desktop. so i need to wipe the partition table as well?
[01:40] <daftykins> possibly, do you know for sure that your downloaded ISO was good - and that your prepared flash drive/DVD is good also?
[01:41] <cooldman224> i know ISO is good because i used to install on the vm. the flash drive has had issues from time to time
[01:41] <daftykins> hmm ok, are you installing EFI/legacy/what the hell is that?
[01:41] <cooldman224> legacy BIOS
[01:42] <daftykins> cool, do you get the 'check disc/media' option on the main menu after boot?
[01:42] <cooldman224> like on the grub menu?
[01:43] <daftykins> not 100% with kubuntu media, but standard ubuntu would ask you for a language then have try/install/check/memtest/boot from HDD
[01:44] <cooldman224> right right
[01:44] <OerHeks> just let theinstaller use the whole dic, it will generate a fres mbr.
[01:46] <cooldman224> yeah i make separate partitions for certain mount points
[01:46] <cooldman224> i guess i can try the whole disc then reinstall to my liking?
[01:48] <cooldman224> and i dont see any option to check the media. just loaded up the iso on a vm
[01:49] <daftykins> cooldman224: no harm in running "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M count=5" to nuke the disk fully
[01:49] <daftykins> wouldn't hurt to test install in the VM :>
[01:50] <cooldman224> well i did a test install on the vm as a trial for kubuntu, if thats what you mean?
[01:50] <daftykins> ja
[01:50] <daftykins> ok so good ISO, questionable flash drive
[01:50] <the_count> daftykins: back
[01:52] <daftykins> \o
[01:52] <daftykins> i started to wonder if your touchpad were a model that doesn't even support that, but Windows rules that out - so i've nothing to add i'm afraid
[01:52] <daftykins> i don't use desktop so i dont really have any experience with touchpad issues - also i've shared what little i did have with Bashing-om :)
[01:53] <muky> Hello everyone, does anyone know how to change language at thunderbird. I tried googling but didnt help me. I need thunderbird with a specific language.
[01:53] <the_count> daftykins: See, it did work with the 3.16.0-33 kernel.... That's what makes it super strange
[01:56] <daftykins> the_count: and if you boot that one even now, it works fine... just anything newer and it's basic features only?
[01:56] <heri> check
[01:56] <the_count> daftykins: Pretty much...
[01:57] <daftykins> the_count: it requires more work after boot?
[01:57] <daftykins> (boot of the -33 kernel)
[01:57] <the_count> daftykins: The only thing wrong with that kernel is that the trackpad was very jumppy... It was hard to get the mouse over something and click
[01:57] <freakyy> hi all. i currently have ubuntu installed. if i now install kubuntu-desktop, how can i get the ubuntu start splash back?
[01:57] <daftykins> the_count: also, do you mean 3.19.0-33?
[01:58] <dkemp1976> j#ubunntu-ca-vn
[01:59] <the_count> daftykins: Actually, i meant 3.13.0-33, not 3.16 ~ that one it works fine except for jumpy mouse... Anything later, and those features are gone but the jumpy mouse problem is fixed
[02:00] <daftykins> the_count: ok, i think i saw you try vivid kernels too, the 3.19 set?
[02:00] <the_count> daftykins: Yes, we were on 3.16 onto 3.19, but the same issue
[02:01] <daftykins> and 4.2 from 15.10 ?
[02:01] <the_count> daftykins: The highest we have tried is 3.19.0-30
[02:02] <daftykins> wouldn't hurt to download a 15.10 ISO and test it out in the live session booted from USB flash drive?
[02:02] <Bashing-om> the_count: You are supposed to at this point be booting and trying 3.19.0-33 .
[02:02] <the_count> daftykins: Probably not
[02:03] <the_count> Bashing-om: That is what I am in
[02:03] <the_count> Bashing-om, daftykins: http://trustdarkness.com/wordpress/dell-sputnik-xps-13-touchpad-settings-not-working-in-updated-ubuntumint/
[02:04] <RoundDuckMan> https://askubuntu.com/questions/701315/keyboard-input-meathods-ibus-crashed-and-icons-randomly-rearranging help?
[02:05] <Bashing-om> the_count: daftykins's blog : http://www.techblo.gg/?p=301 has a better option than the above .
[02:05] <RoundDuckMan> anybody?
[02:06] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: What would cause "No Text" in a piece of software's menu? Like this... https://i.imgur.com/vHUstnq.png
[02:06] <daftykins> the_count: ooh is it an XPS 13? 9350 or 9343? :D
[02:06] <the_count> Bashing-om: I see coincidences forming
[02:07] <daftykins> the 9350 is my current dream laptop if i were rich ;)
[02:07] <the_count> daftykins: I have a Lenovo yoga 2 Pro
[02:07] <daftykins> oh ok
[02:07] <muky> hey ppl. Where can i find where thunderbird files are. I want to place the thunderbird in my language and i need to change the files. So where are thunderbird files located. I am new at linux
[02:07] <RoundDuckMan> daftykins: Can you help me find out what's happening here? https://askubuntu.com/questions/701315/keyboard-input-meathods-ibus-crashed-and-icons-randomly-rearranging
[02:08] <Bashing-om> the_count: Keep in mind, if we were not aware of it .. we would not know of it .. Maybe no fix .. not much for doing things blindly - but might prove of some value in the failure (?) .
[02:08] <the_count> Bashing-om: ??
[02:10] <the_count> Bashing-om: So shall I try it?
[02:10] <daftykins> RoundDuckMan: 15.10?
[02:10] <Bashing-om> the_count: We can try the ”quiet splash i8042.nopnp” echo “blacklist i2c_hid” | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/i2c-hid.conf as per daftykins' blog . It is reversable .
[02:10] <RoundDuckMan> daftykins: 14.04.3
[02:11] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok... I'll try it // if something goes wrong I hope we all agree daftykins takes the blame
[02:11] <RoundDuckMan> that said, I noticed lots of bugs in general on 14.04-based anything, including mainline Ubuntu.
[02:12] <Bashing-om> the_count: http://www.techblo.gg/?p=301 . Nope .. like I say .. It is but a possibility .. but I do not hold my breath .
[02:12] <the_count> Bashing-om: ok, rebooting
[02:12] <daftykins> woohoo for the blame \o/
[02:12] <daftykins> RoundDuckMan: then i'm afraid all i see is paranoid concerns and nothing to really get worried about
[02:13] <daftykins> RoundDuckMan: pretty sure hackers don't break in and then arrange your icons
[02:13] <Bashing-om> daftykins: How come you do not get the blame when it is a great solution ??
[02:14] <the_count> Bashing-om: Rebooted, nothing
[02:14] <OerHeks> pro .. the french might have an answer http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/lenovo_yoga_2_pro
[02:15] <the_count> OerHeks: Problem... I seem to have forgotten my frence... :D
[02:15] <Bashing-om> the_count: I "thought" you were in favor of making the edit to grub and blacklisting ?
[02:15] <RoundDuckMan> I'm paranoid because I got OCD. But if you want me to, I got video proof of things that happened, like ibus crashing for no reason. :/
[02:15] <the_count> huh
[02:15] <OerHeks> just click on translate in google or bing. but basicly i think it is pretty readable.
[02:15] <deweydb> trying to add a new user on a new ubuntu installation. i did: adduser deweydb sudo, but it gives me: adduser: The user `deweydb' does not exist.
[02:16] <the_count> Bashing-om: ~
[02:16] <daftykins> RoundDuckMan: i don't think that believing in particular social nuances makes concerns about ones computer software installation more or less justified. run a "sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade" then be happy :)
[02:16] <k1l_> RoundDuckMan: the 4.2 kernel in 14.04 is meant for testing purposes until it becomes part of the stable enablement stack for 14.04.4
[02:16] <the_count> Bashing-om: I'm not upset or anything
[02:17] <daftykins> Bashing-om: i don't think anyone really wants to try to dent the armour on my cookie suit anyway ;)
[02:17] <k1l_> RoundDuckMan: and maybe you installed other software that changed that settings?
[02:17] <RoundDuckMan> daftykins: Well how still that ibus crashes, plus I'm using 4.2 kernel because 3.19 and 3.13 has flaky Intel Wifi connections.
[02:18] <OerHeks> you should tell that in your Q on askubuntu :-)
[02:18] <RoundDuckMan> and that I'm a little lazy to delete the 3.19 kernels so I can use 3.16 by default, lol.
[02:18] <daftykins> RoundDuckMan: who knows. 2am now though so i'm afraid it's beyond my time to consider looking into it - plus i don't like to deal with modified systems
[02:19] <daftykins> 3.16 should definitely be removed.
[02:19] <Bashing-om> the_count: read http://www.techblo.gg/?p=301 and offer your comment, please .
[02:19] <the_count> Oerheks, daftykins, Bashing-om: There is things like this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/367963/ubuntu-on-lenovo-yoga-2-pro which I don't follow all the instructions because I don't understand them fully... acpi_backlight for instance
[02:19] <RoundDuckMan> What's wrong with 3.16? Isn't it supported until 2016?
[02:19] <the_count> Bashing-om: You want me to post a comment?
[02:20] <daftykins> utopic is ancient, i'd kill it with fire. support status doesn't concern me
[02:20] <RoundDuckMan> Plus how is 4.2
[02:20] <RoundDuckMan> is testing and not finished when it's in wily
[02:20] <the_count> Bashing-om: You see... I never understood what I was doing
[02:20] <daftykins> want 15.10's kernel? install 15.10
[02:20] <daftykins> or wait for the (proper) wily HWE for 14.04
[02:21] <the_count> Bashing-om: So, let's reverse what I just did
[02:21] <RoundDuckMan> Uhh, ok.
[02:21] <Bashing-om> the_count: I am tired .. do not want to do this any longer . please read the link . and decide what you want to do ... I have seen similar in several places . We pick this back up at a later time .
[02:21] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok :D Sleep well
[02:22] <RoundDuckMan> daftykins: So basically you're saying that because I'm using a different kernel, ibus crashed and icons rearranged?
[02:22] <OerHeks> the change to systemD might be your issue, using a wily kernel on trusty.
[02:22] <daftykins> RoundDuckMan: no i'm saying because your setup is non-standard and because it's my bed time, i can't help you tonight
[02:22] <RoundDuckMan> daftykins: sorry for bugging you then.
[02:22] <daftykins> heh
[02:23] <OerHeks> i guess kernel rollback is the fix. but not for your wireless :-(
[02:23] <daftykins> can always drag back a newer iwlwifi perhaps
[02:24] <OerHeks> trottle it back to 54 mbit. might be an option, ugly.
[02:25] <regedit> if someone released a .deb (without PPA sadly) and then released another .deb (also without PPA) is it necessary to uninstall/reinstall, or can i just overwrite?
[02:25] <regedit> i.e. install over the previous one
[02:26] <daftykins> regedit: i'd remove then install for sure, backing up configs before, too
[02:26] <wafflejock1> regedit: did that recently with vagrant here and didn't have a problem just installing over the previous, probably wouldn't hurt to remove it first but I believe it's just unpackaging the files into place and running any post extract scripts
[02:26] <OerHeks> regedit, if the upgrade specs are followed, no.
[02:26] <RoundDuckMan> I'm just worried that when I install an OS myself, that I accidentally install some hacked version, so I obsess over md5 and sha 1/256 sums, freak out, and even when I know things are fine, then with all the Linux malware and vulnerabilities being reported, I freak out even more, and then I just then go back to Windows because at least I know it pr
[02:26] <RoundDuckMan> obably got installed in right by a well known company, unless it's Leveno. :P
[02:26] <RoundDuckMan> And then
[02:26] <regedit> (wow) ok thanks for the answers guys
[02:27] <RoundDuckMan> Crap, pressed enter on accident again
[02:28] <RoundDuckMan> And then I begin worrying about Windows stuff too, then I just begin not using my PC for months, and just use my basic phone or maybe console. :(
[02:29] <RoundDuckMan> *basic phone as in weak smart phone
[02:31] <on2> I just upgraded to 15.10 and now my Firefox is flaky
[02:32] <on2> I get apparmor denied errors for one
[02:32] <on2> plugin_container segfaults from Chrome_ChildThr
[02:33] <AlexQ> I installed lighttpd and I want to set document-root to a mounted NTFS drive, but when I do it in lighttpd.conf, I can't access any files - I get 403 - access denied. No idea why, really. Any quick fix?
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> on2: file a bug mate
[02:34] <the_count> Ok.... Goodnight all
[02:34] <lotuspsychje> on2: or try to create a new user, test firefox from there
[02:34] <wafflejock1> AlexQ: sounds like perhaps the http process doesn't have read privileges for the NTFS drive, might be an issue since the NTFS drive won't have Unix friendly permissions
[02:34] <on2> lotuspsychje, yes that may be it...maybe I have to get rid of my rc files
[02:34] <AlexQ> wafflejock1: But when I go to the NTFS drive everything has 777 mods...
[02:35] <AlexQ> wafflejock1: I had a similar setup on my 15.04 installation without problems. NTFS is mounted as /media/alex/Label
[02:36] <AlexQ> wafflejock1: But maybe that is related to the userspace mouting of the drive? I'll check what happens when I use mount myself
[02:38] <AlexQ> Why can't I "su www-data" ? Is that user somehow locked? I wanted to check if I can access that drive as www-data or not.
[02:38] <on2> Nope...
[02:38] <lotuspsychje> on2: same on new user?
[02:38] <on2> It was OK until this damned "Use Reader View!" popped up
[02:38] <on2> oh well...I am using chromium which has been fine...I'll see how it goes
[02:39] <lotuspsychje> on2: got the right graphics driver enabled?
[02:39] <AlexQ> My drive is mounted as "/dev/sda5 on /media/alex/Dane type fuseblk(rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096,uhelper=udisks2)"
[02:39] <on2> It was working on 15.04
[02:39] <on2> For months
[02:39] <AlexQ> There is "allow_other" there
[02:39] <AlexQ> just double-click automount. What the hell?
[02:40] <lotuspsychje> on2: upgrades can get tricky sometimes
[02:40] <daftykins> AlexQ: then you can't not as uid and gid 0
[02:40] <daftykins> permissions 101 :)
[02:41] <lotuspsychje> on2: try launch firefox from terminal, see what errors you getting
[02:42] <AlexQ> daftykins: Sorry, lost there - don't know what these fuseblk parameters mean precisely - the owner of all the files? drwxrwxrwx 1 alex alex 24576 lis 23 03:17 Dane. Isn't uid 0 guid 0 root root?
[02:43] <daftykins> yeah so if mounted with root perms, www-data can't touch it
[02:43] <daftykins> unless ownership etc are adjusted and honoured
[02:43] <docmur> Is there away to turn on the ability for totem to resize?
[02:43] <AlexQ> daftykins: But it is mounted just by double clicking on the drive icon on the desktop, no root involved.
[02:43] <on2> lotuspsychje, (firefox:20988): GStreamer-WARNING **: External plugin loader failed. This most likely means that the plugin loader helper binary was not found or could not be run. You might need to set the GST_PLUGIN_SCANNER environment variable if your setup is unusual. This should normally not be required though.
[02:44] <xreesiger> AlexQ: yeah I hate that to.
[02:44] <daftykins> AlexQ: not good
[02:44] <Guest58418> hi, I'm having horrible install trouble of 14.04.3. The installer fails every time with"We're sorry, the installer crashed". I've tried 3 different USB flash drives, two different target hard drives, done memtest, checked ISO hash. what's going wrong?
[02:45] <xreesiger> Guest58418: download it again
[02:45] <Guest58418> log output: http://pastebin.com/S8Cz6h08
[02:45] <lotuspsychje> Guest58418: crash at wich point?
[02:46] <Guest58418> near the end
[02:46] <xreesiger> You using 64 on 32 machine
[02:46] <AlexQ> daftykins: Not good? You mean I need to use /etc/fstab? I don't mind the mouting being temporary, it is just to stream some vids on my smartphone, just the easiest wya
[02:46] <AlexQ> way*
[02:46] <lotuspsychje> Guest58418: how did you create the usb
[02:48] <Guest58418> it's 64 bit
[02:48] <Guest58418> I created disk using dd
[02:48] <Guest58418> the disk creator doesn't work
[02:49] <daftykins> AlexQ: then copy the files?
[02:49] <daftykins> what's the file system on said disk?
[02:49] <AlexQ> daftykins: NTFS
[02:49] <Walfa> a
[02:49] <Guest58418> like: dd if=filename.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M
[02:50] <AlexQ> daftykins: I did it before on 15.04 without any issues, the very same partition mounted from userspace, no /etc/fstab entry.
[02:50] <Walfa> can backbox have the same repo as ubuntu?
[02:50] <AlexQ> daftykins: My /etc/lighttpd/lighttpd.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13467231/
[02:50] <daftykins> AlexQ: well that's not what i'm saying, but the file ownership on the path you're trying to access from your chosen web server
[02:50] <daftykins> nope not important; "ls -al /path/to/mounted/disk/"
[02:52] <AlexQ> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13467335/
[02:52] <AlexQ> daftykins: And when I do http://localhost/test.txt I get HTTP 403
[02:53] <daftykins> your lighttpd runs as which user?
[02:53] <AlexQ> www-data
[02:53] <AlexQ> daftykins: Just can't get my head around that. Maybe lighttpd doesn't allow access to files of other users' files even if their permissions allow that?
[02:53] <daftykins> so then that test file needs to be owned as www-data:www-data ; or www-data needs to be a member of group 'alex'
[02:54] <daftykins> though you tried to 777 haha
[02:55] <AlexQ> daftykins: Why if the permissions are rwxrwxrwx everywhere. I didn't do it, it was like that automatically.
[02:55] <daftykins> 1) does it hurt to try 2) do you have a better idea? 3) sharing from NTFS = you're gonna have a bad time :)
[02:55] <daftykins> anyway i have to leave now, so can't check your server config
[02:56] <AlexQ> Could I try to run the server as myself? alex alex in lighttpd.conf?
[02:57] <AlexQ> Or then the server wouldn't have permission to open sockets i.e. listen on 80?
[02:58] <Guest> Hi Folks - I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I am having difficulties with Komposer. When I load one of my webpages into it, at first the page looks fine, but if I try to scroll down, the page becomes split into "strips" which overlay each other and blink constantly, about twice a second. This only started happening recently with Komposer, and ONLY occurs with Komposer, no other software on my computer. Any ideas/su
[02:58] <daftykins> AlexQ: not my personal favourite, but knock yourself out ; fwiw i think what you're doing is heavily flawed
[03:03] <AlexQ> daftykins: LOL, it works. But only after I gave 777 mods to /var/log/lighttpd :D
[03:05] <daftykins> haha, sounds like the server couldn't even start from having no write perms to its' log path
[03:05] <gzcwnk> o^O
[03:05] <daftykins> don't use 777. ever.
[03:05] <AlexQ> daftykins: But I think it is ugly, obviously. Yeah, I guessed that. Well, these are only logs
[03:05] <daftykins> still!
[03:07] <AlexQ> daftykins: I think maybe lighttpd limits access to files in www-data by default, group even if their mods allow access to them. There was some message about users-something when installing (?)
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> AlexQ: maybe the ##httpd guys might also know?
[03:08] <AlexQ> Well, lighttpd maybe
[03:08] <AlexQ> cause the way it is now is ugly
[03:09] <Cluclu> .
[03:12] <AlexQ> actually it's #lighttpd
[03:12] <cdshan> Hello, I am trying to upgrade from ubuntu 14.10 to 15.04, I followed the instruction on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades, when I do a dist-upgrade, it says there is no upgrades. Could some one help me with this.
[03:16] <cdshan> could some one help me out with the upgrade from Ubuntu 14.10 to 15.04? I had tried the documentation available on the net but am not able to succeed. some inputs would be very much appreciated!
[03:17] <cdshan> I had been at it for almost a week, without any success.
[03:18] <AlexQ> How do I mount an NTFS drive so that everyone has read permissions to it?
[03:18] <Ben64> cdshan: why do you want to?
[03:19] <cdshan> Ben64: because, ubuntu 14.10 is no longer supported with updates
[03:19] <lotuspsychje> AlexQ: ask your issue in ##httpd they have more experience for this
[03:19] <Ben64> cdshan: whoops my mistake, read that as 14.04 to 15.04
[03:20] <Ben64> !eolupgrade | cdshan
[03:20] <AlexQ> lotuspsychje: Is ##httpd for Apache only or all http daemons?
[03:21] <AlexQ> daftykins: Well, I think it is related to the NTFS drive though, you were right that these permissions are messed up. I reverted lighttpd.conf to original settings running it as www-data www-data, made a folder in my home directory, with read permissions, made a test.txt file inside it and it is accessible via HTTP. Strange though
[03:21] <lotuspsychje> AlexQ: they have more experience in all kind of daemons
[03:21] <lotuspsychje> AlexQ: daftykins is afk
[03:22] <AlexQ> I know, just saying for future reference
[03:24] <cdshan> ubottu: I tried the links you provied, after the initial updates to the existing version, it says no new updated found, even a dist-upgrade does not work
[03:25] <Guest58620> gsharkdown download and install the package should enable permission to run it as a program, opening gives me the following error,
[03:25] <Guest58620> GrooveShark service has probably changed!
[03:25] <Guest58620> gSharkDown will not function properly, so please be patient until we find a solution.
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> cdshan: try a clean install mate
[03:27] <Guest58620> how I do
[03:27] <cdshan> lotuspsychje: I just wanted to see if there is a way to upgrade rather than a clean install from the scratch
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> cdshan: upgrade from eol is always a risk mate
[03:27] <Ben64> cdshan: did you change your repositories
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> cdshan: you dont know what intruded in your system as security holes
[03:28] <cdshan> Ben64: do you mean from the old..... back to utopic?
[03:29] <Ben64> cdshan: no.. like it says in the link to old-releases.ubuntu.whatever
[03:30] <cdshan> Ben64: I did that and all the instructions that follow it. A few updates were installed and then when we do an upgrade, its says there are no upgardes
[03:30] <Ben64> cdshan: did you do "sudo apt-get update" "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[03:30] <cdshan> lotuspsychje: I do understand your concern, will do a clean install if all else fails.
[03:31] <AlexQ> daftykins: Hahaha, I know why. Because permissions for /media/alex are drwxr-x---+
[03:31] <cdshan> Ben64: yes all of those
[03:31] <Ben64> cdshan: run them again, and pastebin the output
[03:31] <cdshan> Ben64: give me a moment
[03:32] <nitish> How can I download gnome-tweak?
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> nitish: sudo apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool
[03:34] <AlexQ> daftykins: chmod o+rx /media/alex and now it works well. Are these mods for user-media dir intentional? Even as Ubuntu mounts using allow_others flag by default? Maybe that's a bug?
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> AlexQ: daftykins is afk, spare it until he's back
[03:34] <Ben64> AlexQ: you should add it to fstab and have it mounted somewhere not in /media/you
[03:35] <AlexQ> Ben64: It is a single-user laptop setup, just for sharing files, so I think it is allright. Just wondering if it is intentional to have such mods for /media/user ?
[03:36] <Ben64> AlexQ: why are you sharing files with a http server
[03:37] <AlexQ> Streaming videos in LAN
[03:37] <nitish> lotuspsychje: thanks.
[03:37] <nitish> can I make terminal transparent in gnome-shell 3.10.4?
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> nitish: terminal profile settings
[03:37] <AlexQ> Ben64: Behind NAT, so nothing risky I guess.
[03:38] <nitish> lotuspsychje: i can make terminal transparent in default ubuntu ui(unity) but unable to do it in gnome-shell.
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> nitish: maybe the #ubuntu-gnome guys know
[03:41] <nitish> How can I add new workspace?
[03:44] <AlexQ> night night
[03:45] <nicolas_leonidas> When I type docker I get a message that docker is not installed, when I wanna install it with apt-get it says latest version is installed
[03:45] <nicolas_leonidas> what's the problem?
[03:45] <LambdaComplex> nicolas_leonidas: is it in your path?
[03:45] <cdshan> Ben64: the output of the dist-upgrade http://pastebin.com/uEJu4S9P
[03:46] <nicolas_leonidas> LambdaComplex: problem is I don't know where it's installed so I can't check
[03:47] <LambdaComplex> nicolas_leonidas: hm...try `whereis docker`
[03:48] <nicolas_leonidas> wow, that's a new command? output => docker:
[03:48] <cdshan> Ben64: I could post the sources.list file if you want on pastebin
[03:48] <LambdaComplex> nicolas_leonidas: eh, it only works for stuff in your path though...which it apparently isn't
[03:49] <LambdaComplex> nicolas_leonidas: okay, try `find / | grep docker`
[03:50] <nicolas_leonidas> I think I found what the problem is, the package is docker.io not docker http://www.liquidweb.com/kb/how-to-install-docker-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts/
[03:50] <Bashing-om> cdshan: I find it best to revert all PPAs to repo versions . Won't hurt to check your sources .
[03:52] <cdshan> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/d5wgce6n
[03:52] <Bashing-om> cdshan: Look'n .
[03:54] <Bashing-om> cdshan: Looks good so far; anything on the 3rd party directpry ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' ?
[03:58] <cdshan> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/FZdj7xAN
[03:58] <nitish> Is there any other ui available in ubuntu like gnome-shell?
[03:59] <Ben64> cdshan: so 15 minutes after i asked, you pastebinned 1/3 of what i asked for?
[03:59] <Bashing-om> cdshan: I be a while checking all those . be back soonest .
[04:01] <cdshan> Ben64: I had been doing it one by one, by the way, what are the other two you wanted me to pastebin?
[04:01] <OerHeks> wow, lot of ppa's ..
[04:01] <Ben64> cdshan: mixing 13.10, 14.04, and 14.10 repositories isn't a good idea
[04:02] <Ben64> Nov 22 2015 19:30:50 <Ben64> cdshan: did you do "sudo apt-get update" "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[04:02] <cdshan> yes, I could pastebin the output of all the three now
[04:03] <Ben64> you couldn't before?
[04:03] <LambdaComplex> nitish: you can install any desktop environment/window manager that you want...
[04:03] <OerHeks> !desktop
[04:04] <nitish> LambdaComplex: can you please give me some examples of desktop environment/window manager which are available.?
[04:04] <nitish> Currently I've unity & gnome-shell.
[04:04] <OerHeks> i3
[04:04] <LambdaComplex> nitish: Off the top of my head? KDE, XFCE, and LXDE. Cinnamon should work just fine as well.
[04:05] <LambdaComplex> i3 and BSPWM are both good choices for tiling window managers.
[04:05] <Bashing-om> cdshan: Ben64 : Shold not this " http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/isv:/ownCloud:/desktop/ Ubuntu_14.04/ / " be edited to " Ubuntu_15.04/ / ? It is supported in 15.04 .
[04:05] <LambdaComplex> OerHeks: You win a <3 from me
[04:05] <LambdaComplex> Openbox is good if you want a standalone stacking window manager
[04:05] <cdshan> Ben64:http://pastebin.com/Z3yZNr57
[04:06] <LambdaComplex> And, just to name some more window managers because I feel like it...DWM, ratpoison, twm, wmutils, herbstluftwm, awesomewm, xmonad
[04:06] <OerHeks> ... mate :-D
[04:06] <LambdaComplex> Shit, how did I forget mate?
[04:06] <cdshan> Bashing-om: I could uninstall that App as I am not using that at the moment
[04:07] * LambdaComplex begs for forgiveness from the gtk2 gods
[04:07] <nicomachus> language...
[04:07] <OerHeks> !flavors
[04:07] <OerHeks> no mate-desktop there either..
[04:07] <LambdaComplex> OerHeks: I named all those already :P
[04:07] <LambdaComplex> Ooh, how about LXQT? Is that still a thing?
[04:08] <Ben64> cdshan: try "do-release-upgrade -d" and maybe you should stick to LTS versions so you don't have to upgrade so often
[04:08] <Bashing-om> cdshan: It is supported, so should not present a problem .. however, I can not verify " deb https://private-ppa.launchpad.net/commercial-ppa-uploaders/allvideodownloader/ubuntu saucy main " I have no authorization to access. Should this not also be 'utopic' ?
[04:09] <LambdaComplex> Oh, and I imagine Pantheon would work too
[04:10] <cdshan> Ben64: do-release-upgrade -d also produces that same result, " No new release found"
[04:11] <cdshan> Ben64: I do agree with you suggestion of hence fourth sticking to LTS, but I need to get out of this to do that in future.
[04:12] <Bashing-om> cdshan: Ben64 ;; check what is set in update-manager ' cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ' ?
[04:15] <cdshan> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/GehcabCz
[04:16] <cdshan> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/GehcabCz
[04:18] <Bashing-om> cdshan: Humm .. " Prompt=normal " is correct for this situation .. I am out of ideas now .
[04:20] <cdshan> Bashing-om: thank you for your time, hope I will get some solution
[04:22] <Bashing-om> cdshan: Sorry that I am no more of help . Best wishes .
[04:28] <Kartagis> hi
[04:29] <Kartagis> I haven't wifi after my laptop returns from hibernation. help?
[04:32] <jimm398> [15:31] <jimm398> So im using KVM and I'm trying to passthough onboard intel sata the problem is it is not in its own IOMMU group. It is in the group with the ISA Bridge and the SMBus. Does anyone know what these pci devices do? What would be the disadvantage of disabling them?
[04:35] <ziesemer> I have all of these *.pid files showing up in my home directory. E.g., upstart-udev-bridge.10317.pid . Surely this isn't normal?
[04:36] <Guest90978> it's me again still having a total nightmare getting xubuntu installed. I am running out of ideas. Constantly different errors. This time it's "ubiquity[7509]: segfault at 57177000 ip 08213eab sp bfb0e040 error 4 in python3.4[8048000+331000]" after selecting what to install
[04:36] <we6jbo2> I'd like to install ubuntu or debian over a lenovo h50 running windows 10 removing windows 10. Are there any tips on how to do this?
[04:36] <Guest90978> things I've tried so far:
[04:36] <Guest90978> redownloading image
[04:36] <Guest90978> using i386 instead of amd64
[04:37] <karex> Hi, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man8/timeoutd.8.html says there's /etc/timeouts file, but I can't find it
[04:37] <Guest90978> using different USB flash drive
[04:37] <Guest90978> using different target hard drive
[04:37] <SeriouslyLaugh> we6jbo2 the installation process is pretty straight forward, especially if you aren't trying to dual boot
[04:37] <SeriouslyLaugh> let me see if i can find a tutorial for you
[04:37] <we6jbo2> ok
[04:37] <Guest90978> using mkusb, dd and startup disk creator to create bootable USB disk
[04:37] <SeriouslyLaugh> we6jbo2 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[04:38] <Guest90978> running memtest on target machine (no errors)
[04:38] <Guest90978> at this point I am wondering if something is wrong with the machine itself. has anyone had something like that?
[04:38] <karex> Where is /etc/timeouts in Ubuntu?
[04:38] <SeriouslyLaugh> we6jbo2 that tutorial mentions burning s DVD but most computers can boot from a USB stick if you have one laying around
[04:39] <Guest90978> over the years I have installed xubuntu on dozens of machines and never had this kind of trouble
[04:39] <truerock> Using a USB stick does tend to speed the process along a bit.
[04:43] <SeriouslyLaugh> Guest90978 have you checked for a crash file in /var/crash ?
[04:43] <SeriouslyLaugh> i haven't had any experience with segfaults but google leads me to mostly bug-related items
[04:44] <SeriouslyLaugh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/924456
[04:44] <SeriouslyLaugh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/710582
[04:45] <clorisu> hi, it seems my archive file is broken. Does anybody know what went wrong with this archive file? http://imgur.com/a/5ibqx (First image is the main directory, following two are the subfolders) -- When I transferred it originally it was just the 108.MOV file which was 3.7GB, but it split into that weird encryption folder which is 3.7GB and the 108.MOV is now 0 bytes? Is there a way to fix this, if not is there a way to recover just a portion of the data inst
[04:45] <clorisu> ead of the whole so the video is somewhat watchable?
[04:46] <SeriouslyLaugh> i dont know much about that but it looks to me like the file has become corrupt
[04:47] <SeriouslyLaugh> where did you copy the original file from clorisu
[04:47] <SeriouslyLaugh> was it an internet download or a transfer from a USB device? for example
[04:48] <clorisu> SeriouslyLaugh: i compiled the archive myself from my ext4 drive
[04:48] <clorisu> SeriouslyLaugh: but that original file is long gone
[04:48] <SeriouslyLaugh> ColdKeyboard what command or software did you use to create the archive?
[04:48] <SeriouslyLaugh> clorisu
[04:50] <yigal> I sometimes wonder why, why isn't irc more heavily used
[04:51] <clorisu> SeriouslyLaugh: I right clicked the file and clicked 'create archive', it uses the program file roller
[04:52] <SeriouslyLaugh> clorisu are you able to browse the contents of that folder?
[04:52] <SeriouslyLaugh> or does it spit out an error when you try to navigate
[04:52] <yigal> clorisu: do you want to use another program other than file roller?
[04:53] <macrover> 2015-11-22 20:47 <SeriouslyLaugh> was it an internet download or a transfer from a USB device? for examplexk
[04:54] <yigal> hmm what's the issue :)
[04:54] <SeriouslyLaugh> i'm seeing bug reports related to this type of behavior from back as far as 2009
[04:54] <SeriouslyLaugh> let me see if anyone posted a solution
[04:55] <yigal> owell I'll wait for my own bug, one will come someday :)
[04:56] <clorisu> SeriouslyLaugh: I can't load the video file from within the archive, or extract it. i get the same error "error occured while extracting files. encrypted file is unsupported". I believe when I tried on windows it said headers were broken.
[04:56] <clorisu> yigal: I dont mind what program I use, but ive lost the original file the archive was made out of and im just trying to recover whatever data i can from the archive
[04:57] <yigal> clorisu: what do you get when you type 'xdg-mime query filetype <file name> ?
[04:57] <yigal> ;
[04:57] <yigal> excuse me '
[04:57] <clorisu> yigal: application/x-compressed-tar
[04:57] <SeriouslyLaugh> hm
[04:57] <yigal> clorisu: so it's a tarred archive apparently
[04:57] <SeriouslyLaugh> yeah
[04:58] <yigal> SeriouslyLaugh: take it from here
[04:58] <SeriouslyLaugh> but it's almost certainly encrypted
[04:58] <SeriouslyLaugh> unfortunately i this is out my comfort zone
[04:58] <SeriouslyLaugh> i dont have a solution, sorry
[04:58] <yigal> SeriouslyLaugh: ok I'll try some hand waving see if we get any further
[04:59] <SeriouslyLaugh> good luck
[04:59] <clorisu> thanks anyway SeriouslyLaugh and yigal. would you expect its possible to be fixed if i found the right person to help?
[04:59] <clorisu> ok thanks yigal
[04:59] <SeriouslyLaugh> clorisu maybe look around for a general linux support channel
[04:59] <SeriouslyLaugh> i know if ##linux obviously but i'm unsure how they feel about tech support quesitions
[04:59] <yigal> clorisu: when the file is opened with file roller when you try to extract it what happens?
[05:00] <clorisu> yigal: when i try to extract it with the command line or the file roller?
[05:00] <yigal> clorisu: prob. best if you give the error on the command line, 'tar xf <file name>.tar' ?
[05:01] <clorisu> gzip: stdin: encrypted file -- use unzip
[05:01] <clorisu> tar: Child returned status 1
[05:01] <clorisu> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[05:01] <clorisu> @ yigal
[05:02] <quidnunc> Can anyone tell me how to launch vmware on 15.10?
[05:02] <quidnunc> workstation 12
[05:02] <yigal> clorisu: hmm ok were you given any idea how the files was encrypted?
[05:02] <quidnunc> "vmplayer" just silently exists
[05:02] <trugreen> take a shutgun and point it at your head
[05:02] <trugreen> thats how you start it
[05:02] <yigal> clorisu: also what is the output of 'file <file>'?
[05:03] <clorisu> yigal: wouldnt have a clue. i didnt intentionally encrypt it, maybe the camera did? but i dont think it does usually. not in the way that i can see those encryption characters anyway. but i just compiled the tar from the single mov file
[05:03] <clorisu> yigal: NYE2.tar.gz: Zip archive data, at least v2.0 to extract
[05:03] <trugreen> Ay
[05:03] <yigal> clorisu: what command are you using on the command line, 'tar xfz <file>' ?
[05:04] <yigal> clorisu: it's tarred and gunzipped
[05:04] <clorisu> yigal: clorisu@clorisu ~/Desktop $ tar xfz NYE2.tar.gz
[05:04] <yigal> clorisu: cool
[05:04] <yigal> clorisu: so what application generated the file, was it from a phone, or webcam?
[05:05] <clorisu> yigal: a canon dslr camera
[05:05] <acer> hello
[05:06] <yigal> clorisu: did you hack the camera, is it using the open source stuff?
[05:06] <yigal> clorisu: http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK ?
[05:06] <yigal> clorisu: it's odd that it would be a tar gz file
[05:07] <yigal> clorisu: if you're ok with the idea share a dropbox, or other link with the file, I'll certainly take a look what might be going on
[05:08] <clorisu> yigal: i dont think i changed the camera and not sure if its open source. it just produces a .mov file and im fairly sure i just made the archive out of that
[05:09] <clorisu> yigal: its 1.7gb so may take me a bit to upload, but ill do it
[05:09] <yigal> clorisu: cool, so I'm guessing it's a raw file?
[05:10] <django_> hey
[05:10] <django_> how do i use computer cam
[05:10] <django_> laptop webcame
[05:10] <django_> on ubuntu
[05:10] <yigal> in chains
[05:10] <django_> to take a picture
[05:10] <yigal> sorry dude I had to
[05:11] <yigal> django_: if you have a Ubuntu install you can use the default application Cheese https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Cheese
[05:11] <django_> yigal: ty
[05:11] <django_> yigal: you israeli?
[05:12] <yigal> nah, just two Jews for parents :)
[05:12] <clorisu> yigal: by raw you mean unedited? if so yes
[05:12] <django_> ugh
[05:12] <yigal> django_: lol, just let me know if it works?
[05:12] <django_> why does every israeli on the net say that :D
[05:12] <yigal> django_: my dad was born in Oakland California and my mom was born in England
[05:13] <django_> oh
[05:13] <django_> and you?
[05:13] <django_> ..let me guess
[05:13] <yigal> django_: they married in Israel and moved to the US had me in Seattle
[05:13] <django_> oh heh
[05:13] <yigal> you're wrong
[05:13] <yigal> :P
[05:13] <django_> lol
[05:14] <yigal> anyways let me know if Cheese works
[05:14] <yigal> :)
[05:14] <django_> works hah
[05:14] <yigal> cool :) !
[05:14] <django_> the problem ive been having with ubuntu 14.04 is speed :(
[05:14] <django_> it takes a couple of minutes just to log out
[05:14] <clorisu> yigal: by raw you mean unedited? if so yes
[05:14] <django_> and it has been progressively getting slower..
[05:14] <yigal> clorisu: yes dude, sorry for not answering earlier
[05:14] <django_> these problems are so ambigous i cant find a soln :/
[05:14] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: What is wrong when a program just won't start? "Gnome Encfs Manager" does nothing when I click on it. Any ideas?
[05:14] <clorisu> np yigal just repasted incase you missed it
[05:14] <green-hat> I ran into a small problem, Id appreciate the help if anyone has the time. I have Windows 10 as my primary partition, and Xubuntu installed along side it. I set it up so Xubuntu has a root, swap and home partition. I used 10GB for the root partition, but now it says i cannot install anything due to space being an issue. I checked my root folder & the space is maxed out. I thought games and other software would install in the h
[05:14] <green-hat> ome folder/partition. I tried using Gparted, but i cannot modify/resize the partitions. Should i just reinstall and not make the root and home separate partitions?
[05:15] <yigal> clorisu: cool
[05:15] <green-hat> Sorry for the long message...
[05:15] <yigal> django_: hmm
[05:15] <django_> :(
[05:15] <yigal> django_: what kind of hardware are you working with?
[05:15] <clorisu> yigal: have a preferred file dropping service?
[05:15] <django_> 6gb ram
[05:15] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: I actually did a lot of research on this one. :)
[05:15] <yigal> clorisu: google drive or dropbox let me know the link :)
[05:16] <yigal> django_: what kind of storage ssd or hhd?
[05:16] <django_> grrrr
[05:16] <django_> not sure
[05:16] <yigal> django_: no worries, do you have a dedicated graphics card or integrated?
[05:16] <truerock> You'd probably know if you had a solid state drive ...
[05:16] <yigal> django_: just have to find the likely bottleneck
[05:17] <yigal> django_: and see what might be happenning
[05:17] <SeriouslyLaugh> VictoriaXOXO try running the program from within a terminal window to see what it says when it's executed
[05:17] <django_> yigal: i just have the basic intel graphics card
[05:17] <django_> i dont game
[05:17] <django_> or use graphic card intensive
[05:17] <django_> just chrome/terminal/texteditor
[05:17] <VictoriaXOXO> SeriouslyLaugh: Silly question, but what would the command be? :$
[05:17] <SeriouslyLaugh> not silly! i was just wondering that myself
[05:17] <yigal> django_: I'm the same, more or less, so everything just gets painfully slow?
[05:18] <SeriouslyLaugh> VictoriaXOXO try genfcsm
[05:18] <django_> over time it does..so like after a day i have to log out/relog on
[05:18] <django_> even now its lagging as i type in words in the chat
[05:18] <VictoriaXOXO> SeriouslyLaugh: One moment, please.
[05:18] <django_> its only a slight lag that isnt a major issue
[05:18] <VictoriaXOXO> SeriouslyLaugh: "anon@pc ~ $ genfcsm genfcsm: command not found"
[05:18] <django_> its mostly when i log out it takes forever and overtime it just gets slower
[05:18] <yigal> django_: you should run 'ps aufx' and see what resources are being used, or even just 'top'
[05:18] <SeriouslyLaugh> VictoriaXOXO if that doesn't work try gnome-encfs-manager
[05:19] <django_> ps top?
[05:19] <yigal> django_: no, us 'ps aufx'
[05:19] <VictoriaXOXO> SeriouslyLaugh: Well, this sure as heck is weird. "anon@pc ~ $ gnome-encfs-manager Using AppIndicator"
[05:19] <VictoriaXOXO> SeriouslyLaugh: It works from there?!
[05:19] <yigal> django_: or 'top' something that will let you see the resources that are being used so you can kill the program as opposed to the session
[05:19] <django_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/cXIHLlkM/
[05:20] <django_> thats what it says ll
[05:20] <yigal> django_: is it slow right now?
[05:20] <SeriouslyLaugh> oh I think that means it's an indicator VictoriaXOXO -- there isn't a graphical user interface but rather it would be shown in the system bar area if you had one enabled
[05:20] <django_> umm
[05:20] <django_> not too bad
[05:20] <django_> i recently relogged that why
[05:20] <django_> bc it was going slow
[05:20] <yigal> django_: yah, the resource usage from the output is minimal
[05:21] <VictoriaXOXO> SeriouslyLaugh: Yeah, I see an icon there now. But I was promised a GUI. >:(
[05:21] <yigal> django_: that's why I ask, when it gets bad take a log of it
[05:21] <django_> ok
[05:21] <SeriouslyLaugh> one sec let me research this VictoriaXOXO
[05:21] <django_> do you usually hang around?
[05:21] <yigal> django_: cool
[05:21] <django_> here*
[05:21] <yigal> django_: nah, just when I get drunk :D
[05:21] <django_> :(
[05:21] <yigal> django_: there are plenty of smart peeps to help
[05:22] <SeriouslyLaugh> VictoriaXOXO click on the indicator and click "show manager"
[05:22] <yigal> django_: also if you need help just private message me, I'll do my best to help
[05:22] <VictoriaXOXO> SeriouslyLaugh: Yeah, that works. :) Buuuuuuut... I should probably stay away from it. -- https://defuse.ca/audits/encfs.htm
[05:23] <VictoriaXOXO> SeriouslyLaugh: I found out AFTER installing it.
[05:23] <django_> yigal: the thing is with my old laptop when i switched to ubuntu it went SO MUCH faster tjhing time its not the case :/
[05:23] <django_> idk if installted incorrectly?
[05:23] <django_> also its ubuntu 14.04
[05:23] <yigal> django_: yes that's what people usually notice from a swithc from Windows to Linux/Ubuntu
[05:24] <django_> not this time /cry
[05:24] <yigal> switch
[05:24] <SeriouslyLaugh> VictoriaXOXO check out some alternatives: http://alternativeto.net/software/cryptkeeper/
[05:24] <yigal> django_: well Windows is getting better and it certainly depends on the hardware
[05:24] <SeriouslyLaugh> oops I mean http://alternativeto.net/software/gnome-encfs-manager/
[05:25] <VictoriaXOXO> SeriouslyLaugh: I will. So, to uninstall it completely... sudo apt-get purge gnome-encfs-manager?
[05:25] <django_> yigal: could it be the installation was wrong
[05:25] <SeriouslyLaugh> yep
[05:25] <VictoriaXOXO> SeriouslyLaugh: Thanks. What do you use?
[05:25] <yigal> django_: not likely
[05:25] <yigal> django_: are you currently having issues with the speed?
[05:25] <django_> right now no
[05:25] <django_> lol
[05:26] <yigal> django_: right so there's an application likely with a memory leak, so you need to find it and respawn it when it has issues
[05:27] <memo_> Hola
[05:27] <django_> hows this
[05:27] <clorisu> yigal: did you get my link
[05:27] <django_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/UNvNxDTN/
[05:28] <memo_> hi
[05:28] <yigal> clorisu: yes, second let me start the download
[05:28] <clorisu> np
[05:28] <django_> also firefox goes annoyingly slow
[05:28] <memo_> your name ?
[05:28] <VictoriaXOXO> SeriouslyLaugh: Do you know why this is unavailable? http://blog.sambull.org/easily-encrypt-folders-2
[05:29] <yigal> django_: yah nothing is showing from that general resource search what about 'ps aux --sort=-%mem | awk 'NR<=10{print $0}'' ?
[05:29] <yigal> django_: that's a search for the top ten memory intensive processes
[05:29] <django_> ok
[05:29] <VictoriaXOXO> SeriouslyLaugh: Nevermind. I found a working copy of that post and it's using encfs again. Argh.
[05:30] <yigal> clorisu: ok downloaded, let me see what we have
[05:30] <yigal> clorisu: love my gigabit connection
[05:30] <django_> still doing it
[05:30] <clorisu> kk yigal :)
[05:32] <anonimo> hi
[05:35] <django_> yigal: still hasnt returned anything
[05:35] <django_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/5LMkkzU4/
[05:35] <yigal> django_: you need to have a terminating '
[05:35] <yigal> django_: at the end of the awk statement
[05:36] <yigal> django_: {print $0}'
[05:36] * django_ facepalm
[05:36] <django_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/PK8W73Ak/
[05:37] <yigal> django_: ok it looks like chrome is taking up the majority of the resources
[05:37] <nrdb> should a motherboard display something without ether a CMOS batter or HDD?
[05:37] <django_> yigal: only 12 tabs opene
[05:38] <yigal> django_: hmm, what does 'free -m' show?
[05:38] <django_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/MumFxAs0/
[05:38] <django_> yigal: ^
[05:38] <yigal> django_: ok so the memory looks fine
[05:39] <django_> heh
[05:39] <yigal> most of it is being used but most of it is being cached, as expected
[05:40] <yigal> clorisu: From my test I suspect this is a corrupted archive
[05:40] <yigal> tests
[05:41] <yigal> clorisu: I would attempt to download from the source again, if this is possible
[05:43] <yigal> django_: I would consider creating a cron job every 5-10 minutes for 'ps aufx' so when the performance is getting bad the logs are available to see what might be happenning
[05:43] <django_> cron job?
[05:44] <yigal> django_: something like https://github.com/rackerlabs/recap
[05:45] <yigal> django_: if that's confusing just run the command, ps aufx > log.txt' when the system gets bad
[05:46] <yigal> django_: 'ps aufx > log.txt' excuse me, and then when complete sign out
[05:46] <clorisu> yigal: I can't access the source as the mov file was from my camera 2 years ago and the source is lost. is there any way to recover just some of the data so some of the video is watchable?
[05:46] <django_> ok
[05:49] <SeriouslyLaugh> clorisu check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=861763
[05:49] <mekhami> what's your preferred terminal email client?
[05:49] <mekhami> i'd prefer something with vim keybinding support or editing in vim
[05:50] <yigal> clorisu: So either the archive is password protected or it's corrupted, it's hard to be sure
[05:51] <yigal> clorisu: do you know what the passwords would/could have be to unlock the file?
[05:51] <clorisu> yigal: i have a feign memory of maybe password protecting it. i would probably still remember the password if it would help
[05:52] <yigal> clorisu: it likely will in this case
[05:52] <clorisu> yigal: hopefully :)
[05:52] <clorisu> SeriouslyLaugh: thanks ill look into it
[05:52] <yigal> clorisu: yes, I hope so :)
[05:54] <yigal> clorisu: I mean just running a few basic commands seems to show that indeed it is encrypted with a password, https://gist.github.com/8leggedunicorn/7d637fea2b7e06fa504b
[05:55] <clorisu> yigal: i dont understand that log but ill take your word for it :)
[05:55] <truerock> Interesting ... could explain the incomplete decompress, yeah.
[05:56] <clorisu> yigal: the extra folder that appears has what typically looks like encryption for me anyway. http://imgur.com/a/5ibqx
[05:59] <yigal> clorisu: good luck sir, encryption or odd encoding, but likely encryption
[05:59] <clorisu> yigal: how do i go about decrypting it with the password?
[06:00] <yigal> clorisu: if it is a zip file you can use 'unzip' with the -P flag 'unzip -P <password> <file>'
[06:00] <truerock> Apparently, it's a tar.gz file.
[06:00] <truerock> (If I remember the previous convo correctly.)
[06:01] <yigal> truerock: possibly although file shows it as a zip archive: NYE2.tar.gz: Zip archive data, at least v2.0 to extract
[06:01] <truerock> ahhhhh ... indeed.
[06:01] <clorisu> yigal i just get the same results i get with unzip by itself http://pastebin.com/tBYXkESD
[06:05] <Guest12497> ME
[06:06] <yigal> clorisu: I'm at a loss sir, I think you should likely take it to ##linux or a stackoverflow post
[06:06] <clorisu> np yigal thanks for all your help.
[06:06] <yigal> clorisu: np, gl
[06:07] <logglog> hey ppl how can i resize a photo without downloading gimp for it, on a fresh ubuntu install
[06:09] <logglog> one more question ppl, i is it possible to make the launcher act intelligent. When I put firefox to maximize that it hides and expands firefox to full. While showing if there is nothing maximized
[06:11] <al2o3-cr> logglog: use convert
[06:12] <logglog> ?
[06:13] <al2o3-cr> logglog: Use the program convert to resize your photo
[06:14] <logglog> there is no convert when i search for it, do i have to install it first?
[06:14] <Eels> Hi, is there a way to change to a different video driver from the command line?
[06:14] <Eels> My video driver is blocking my boot
[06:15] <al2o3-cr> logglog: it's a CL tool
[06:15] <al2o3-cr> ubuntu comes with it
[06:15] <logglog> sorry i am newer to linux :) thx
[06:15] <al2o3-cr> np
[06:19] <vipinG> hi all
[06:20] <vipinG> i have install newly ubuntu 15.05 version and able to access my internet through browser but when i am trying update via terminal , terminal not getting network
[06:20] <vipinG> can any one suggesss
[06:22] <vipinG> i have install newly ubuntu 15.05 version and able to access my internet through browser but when i am trying update via terminal , terminal not getting network
[06:23] <vipinG> i have install newly ubuntu 15.05 version and able to access my internet through browser but when i am trying update via terminal , terminal not getting network
[06:23] <emitattuo> vipinG, do you have a proxy?
[06:23] <vipinG> yes i have proxy
[06:24] <vipinG> also tried proxy setting
[06:24] <vipinG> but still no network
[06:24] <SeriouslyLaugh> vipinG can you ping your router?
[06:24] <SeriouslyLaugh> disable all proxy settings and try to ping the router
[06:27] <vipinG> basically i have installed my ubuntu in windows host with virtual box
[06:27] <vipinG> i m in my company network environment how to find my router ip in via terminal
[06:28] <goddard> how can i activate USBMon in Ubuntu 14.04
[06:28] <goddard> ?
[06:29] <vipinG> SeriouslyLaugh , i am not able to ping my router ip
[06:30] <vipinG> but from windows host m/c i can ping my router
[06:30] <OerHeks> goddard, kubuntu guide, works for unity too https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kernel/Debugging/USB
[06:30] <SeriouslyLaugh> vipinG sounds like it may be related to the virtualbox settings
[06:30] <SeriouslyLaugh> maybe try the bridged NAT option
[06:31] <vipinG> SeriouslyLaugh , i m using bridge option
[06:31] <goddard> OerHeks: sweet thanks
[06:31] <SeriouslyLaugh> then try another option vipinG
[06:31] <vipinG> that also not working
[06:32] <SeriouslyLaugh> under network, choose NAT for "attached to"
[06:32] <vipinG> SeriouslyLaugh , i am not getting one thing then how linux browser getting my network properly
[06:32] <Eels> My Ubuntu 14.04 freezes after I login (only cursor and background visible). I'm trying this http://askubuntu.com/questions/449479/ubuntu-14-04-lts-crashes-after-login but I can't boot into recovery mode.
[06:32] <SeriouslyLaugh> what command are you using in terminal that isn't workin vipinG
[06:33] <vipinG> SeriouslyLaugh , sudo apt-get update
[06:35] <iBurley> Anybody know if it's safe to install the AMD proprietary video drivers from the GUI tool in 15.10 yet?
[06:36] <SeriouslyLaugh> vipinG disable proxy settings and try it
[06:40] <vipinG> SeriouslyLaugh , already tried with and without proxy
[06:41] <SeriouslyLaugh> vipinG your company might have some kind of networking protection in place
[06:41] <SeriouslyLaugh> more info here http://askubuntu.com/questions/308809/no-internet-for-terminal-connect-through-a-proxy
[06:43] <SeriouslyLaugh> vipinG other things i found via google: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1978903
[06:43] <SeriouslyLaugh> and this http://superuser.com/questions/455273/ubuntu-12-04-terminal-has-no-internet-proxy-server
[06:43] <SeriouslyLaugh> more http://superuser.com/questions/496183/unable-to-connect-to-internet-from-terminal-on-ubuntu-12-04
[06:44] <vipinG> SeriouslyLaugh , i have changed some virtual box config now i am able to ping my router but still not getting neteork
[06:45] <SeriouslyLaugh> vipinG read the links I posted
[06:45] <SeriouslyLaugh> various solutions to try
[06:46] <vipinG> SeriouslyLaugh , Thanks
[06:48] <SeriouslyLaugh> Eels when you say freezes, do you mean it doesn't load? can you still move the cursor around?
[06:48] <SeriouslyLaugh> or does it stick completely
[06:49] <Eels> I can move the cursor and see the desktop background, but there or no panels
[06:49] <Eels> After a few reboots I managed to open the terminal
[06:49] <SeriouslyLaugh> Eels read this solution: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears
[06:49] <Eels> but ifconfig says I have no wifi
[06:51] <clorisu> ok yigal, i think you were on the right track with jar because it overrides or disregards the signature error. but why you got your output is probably due to it being an encrypted file right? so is there a command to run that jar extract but with a password option
[06:51] <Eels> I tried apt-get installing compizconfig-settings-manager, but it fails to resolve anything at all
[06:53] <Eels> "Network is unreachable" when trying to ping anything at all
[06:56] <dustin_> anyone else up?
[06:56] <dustin_> I'm having an issue trying to update a EOL version of ubuntu on a server.
[06:57] <skweek> I want to take my ubuntu usb key and let it boot and point it to another usb key with a minimal home folder clone of my current home partition, any suggestions?
[06:57] <dustin_> now the mirrors are out of date and it won't get the updates or allow me to do a release upgrade
[06:57] <dustin_> Hoping someone knows how to fix the issue
[06:58] <cfhowlett> dustin_, download .iso and clean install?
[06:58] <dustin_> I'm on a server, can I just download an ISO for that? only able to access through iterm via ssh
[06:59] <cfhowlett> !server | dustin_
[07:00] <dustin_> ubottu thanks, I'll give that a try. digital ocean is saying to just update the sources.list to the old mirrors and it should work. Is that accurate?
[07:00] <dustin_> ubottu ha ha
[07:01] <somsip> !eolupgrade | dustin_
[07:03] <nils_> dustin_, I think there is a mirror for legacy releases
[07:03] <nils_> dustin_, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[07:03] <nils_> good luck.
[07:04] <dustin_> nils , yeah that is what I'm trying to figure out. It is a production server so I don't want to wipe it and re-install.
[07:04] <dustin_> nils ubottu : thanks for the help. I might have more questions as I dig in.
[07:07] <cfhowlett> dustin_, what version?
[07:07] <dustin_> I have version 14.10 now
[07:07] <cfhowlett> dustin_, might I suggest that production servers should use LTS releases; currently 14.04
[07:07] <ZcY> so many people
[07:08] <dustin_> when I ssh in it says that it is no longer supported and to run do-release-upgrade.
[07:08] <dustin_> yeah, that is what i'm trying to go to. super difficult for a chump like me
[07:08] <cfhowlett> dustin_, 14.10 is no longer available via normal do-release-upgrade. you have to use the eolupgrade options.
[07:09] <cfhowlett> dustin_, ask in #ubuntu-server for more focused advice.
[07:09] <ZcY> how to find a girlfriend~~
[07:09] <ZcY> ahahah
[07:09] <cfhowlett> ZcY, wrong channel. play somewhere else.
[07:09] <dustin_> ok. I'll move this to there. thanks cfhowlett
[07:09] <ZcY> sorry~
[07:09] <ZcY> just a joke
[07:10] <nils_> ZcY, I laughed ;)
[07:11] <ZcY> ...
[07:11] <ZcY> 0.0
[07:13] <iBurley> Anybody know if it's safe to install the AMD proprietary video drivers from the GUI tool in 15.10 yet?
[07:37] <lolmaus_> Help! My Kubuntu 15.10 logs me out immediately after login! I tried renaming .Xauthority, .bashrc and .bash_profile, it didn't help. And I didn't find and anything suspicious in the logs.
[07:40] <internetman> I am using a vpn connection with openvpn. As far as I understand these two rules should make ufw only allow me to use the vpn connection. "ufw deny out to any" + "ufw allow out 1194/udp". However after I set those two rules, everything is blocked :( I have checked that my openvpn config file uses 1194 as the port. Any ideas?
[07:44] <ben____> An error occurred, please run Package Manager from the right-clicked menu or apt-get in a terminal to see what is wrong.the error message was:'Unkown Error:'<class'SystemError'>'(E:Opening /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nodesource.list-ifstrean::ifstream(13:Permissions denied))'. this ususaly means that your installed packages have unmet dependencies.
[07:44] <ben____> can anyone help with this?
[07:45] <ben____> have tried everything for hours...
[07:46] <danatwork> internetman: for my openvpn connection i use "ufw deny all", then "ufw allow 1194/udp". Maybe there's a better way but that works for me.
[07:46] <caf4926> is 14.04.3 LTS to 2019 or is that only 14.01.1?
[07:47] <LinuxNoob> Hello, anybody facing file/caja/nautilus crash issues on Ubuntu 15.10 >?
[07:49] <akik> internetman: your openvpn client gets an ip address from a server defined ip network. 1194/udp is just the openvpn end point for the openvpn client
[08:15] <muhk> hello everyone. Can some1 help me with netwroking. I am trying to connect to a netwrok printer. But first i had to change samba workgroup name. I tried installing the graphical samba interface, i installed it, but it is not visible when i search for it. Can you please help me with setting this up. It is really important for me
[08:21] <mika_> i can't get GRUB timeout to work. i want the value to be ZERO. im using XUBUNTU.
[08:21] <mika_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13472678/
[08:22] <mika_> after any editing i use update-grub command.
[08:22] <EriC^^> did you update-grub?
[08:23] <EriC^^> ok
[08:23] <EriC^^> mika_: what's the timeout you get right now?
[08:23] <mika_> EriC^^, its 10 (default)
[08:23] <EriC^^> mika_: ok, type cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:24] <mika_> http://termbin.com/bopb
[08:25] <EriC^^> mika_: try setting it to 1
[08:25] <EriC^^> cause there's a line if [ "${timeout}" = 0 ]; then set timeout=10
[08:26] <mika_> yes i can see that...but why there is that line..i just noticed that...i don't usually touch that file because every grub update it will be overwritten
[08:27] <EriC^^> yeah, i don't know why that's there
[08:27] <mika_> thanks anyway :)
[08:27] <EriC^^> no poblem :)
[08:27] <EriC^^> *problem
[08:29] <EriC^^> mika_: try to set the timeout to 10
[08:29] <EriC^^> and keep the hidden timeout to 0
[08:29] <EriC^^> mika_: keep the record one at 0 though
[08:31] <clorisu> is it normal to have this many broken ppa's? http://paste.linux.chat/view/d6e0b7a9
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> clorisu: ppa's are not officially supported here
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> clorisu: and your on mint?
[08:32] <clorisu> thats from mint yeah lotuspsychje i run both though
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> !mint | clorisu
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> clorisu: choose an official ubuntu version from the topic to install mate
[08:34] <skweek> lenovo told me that they won't validate my warranty because I have linux installed on my computer
[08:34] <stevejokes> hello world
[08:34] <skweek> they told me that it violated their terms of service
[08:35] <skweek> a lenovo rep said that installing linux on your computer voids your warranty
[08:35] <VIpinG> hi all
[08:35] <HackerII> return it
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> skweek: install back windows on it before you return it
[08:35] <skweek> lol
[08:35] <skweek> I really shouldn't have to
[08:36] <HackerII> skweek, does it have a restore partition ?
[08:36] <VIpinG> i am not able to access internet via ubuntu terminal but can easily access via browser
[08:36] <skweek> it'd be happier, seeing a news article on slashdot saying that a lenovo rep told me installing linux on my computer voids my warranty
[08:36] <VIpinG> can any one help me how to access internet via terminal
[08:37] <HackerII> restore it and go get a asus lappy
[08:37] <VIpinG> i am not able to access internet via ubuntu terminal but can easily access via browser
[08:38] <VIpinG> can any one help me how to access internet via terminal
[08:38] <geirha> VIpinG: what command are you trying in the terminal?
[08:38] <VIpinG> sudo apt-get update
[08:39] <geirha> And what's the error message it gives?
[08:39] <VIpinG> just waiting for network untill i kill
[08:40] <trex> Hi everybody anyone can help me? I've some problem with my video card
[08:40] <mika_> EriC^^, Hello again...hmm everytime i use update-grub command it will add that IF line there...weird
[08:40] <stevejokes> can you ping through google?
[08:40] <EriC^^> mika_: yeah, that's standard
[08:40] <geirha> VIpinG: Do you remember setting up any proxies, either http or for apt?
[08:40] <VIpinG> i cant ping or wget or curl google
[08:40] <EriC^^> mika_: try to set the TIMEOUT=10 , but leave the hidden timeout = 0
[08:41] <VIpinG> yes i know i did all setting but still its not working
[08:41] <ThePlague> Please advise the best method of renaming a file extension to multiple files: for f in **/*.t1; do mv "$f" "${f%.t1}.t2" or a better way?
[08:41] <mika_> EriC^^, ok :)
[08:41] <geirha> VIpinG: Does this output anything? declare -p http_proxy HTTP_PROXY 2>/dev/null
[08:41] <trex> Why i can't update my display to the right resolution? this is the 3rd installation i'm doing
[08:41] <ThePlague> for f in **/*.t1; do mv "$f" "${f%.t1}.t2"; done
[08:41] <mcphail> ThePlague: use the rename command
[08:41] <ThePlague> mcphail: for multiple files?
[08:42] <mcphail> ThePlague: yes. See the man page. Has a good example
[08:42] <ThePlague> mcphail: Thank you.
[08:42] <VIpinG> geirha , yes its returning my proxy url n port
[08:43] <geirha> VIpinG: are you sure it is correct, and where did you set it up? (which file)
[08:43] <mcphail> ThePlague: the biggest challenge is always finding the correct files to rename. Hard to end up without a pile of shell globs and perl regexes. Messy whatever way you do it
[08:44] <VIpinG> basically i have two m/c one that already configured with network and working and one on that i trying
[08:44] <ZcY> ？ZcY
[08:44] <ZcY> ? Zcy
[08:44] <VIpinG> on my setup have proxy but on alredy configured m/c not returning any proxy
[08:45] <ZcY> ? ip ZcY
[08:45] <ZcY> ?ip ZcY
[08:45] <ZcY> ?ip
[08:45] <ZcY> ..
[08:45] <mcphail> ZcY: please stop that
[08:45] <ZcY> how to see ip?
[08:45] <EriC^^> ZcY: /whois ZcY
[08:46] <ZcY> thank you
[08:46] <trex> help :
[08:46] <trex> please anyone cvan help with video drivers?
[08:46] <VIpinG> geirha , can you sugges how i can check all network configuration on already configured m/c that same i will apply on my m/c
[08:46] <EriC^^> trex: what's the problem?
[08:47] <geirha> I don't know what "m/c" means
[08:47] <trex> EriC^^: well this is the third installation i'm doing,i can't change my diisplay config,i'm trying to use driver manager but it doesn't work
[08:47] <EriC^^> trex: what are you trying to change in the display config?
[08:48] <trex> EriC^^: i can download the drivers but when i try to launch the driver installatiuon it says I'm using X and the installation stop
[08:48] <trex> EriC^^: my video card and the resolution
[08:48] <trex> EriC^^: it seems like he can't recognise my video card
[08:48] <EriC^^> trex: that's cause you need to turn off the xserver and do it from a terminal console
[08:49] <VIpinG> geirha , can you please give me any suggestion
[08:49] <EriC^^> trex: you don't to install a driver from the website though to change your resolution
[08:49] <trex> EriC^^: what u suggest than?
[08:50] <trex> becvause i've tryed to open a shel beforte log in but the command ctrl alt f1 won't work
[08:50] <EriC^^> trex: go to settings > display and change it
[08:50] <EriC^^> trex: you get gui right now?
[08:50] <geirha> VIpinG: Well it sounds like your proxy url is wrong, and I'm guessing your gui browser does not use the same proxy setting
[08:50] <trex> EriC^^: dsoeasn't work that way wrom settings i can't change
[08:50] <EriC^^> trex: type lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA
[08:51] <EriC^^> paste the output in paste.ubuntu.com
[08:52] <trex> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13473037/
[08:52] <VIpinG> geirha , as i told you i have two system on one with working internet that does not have proxy
[08:52] <VIpinG> geirha , i also removed proxy from my m/c and trying but it still not working
[08:52] <geirha> I still don't know what m/c means
[08:53] <ThePlague> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13473044/
[08:54] <VIpinG> geirha , two linux machine on same lan on one machine via terminal internet working on another machine i want to access internet via terminal but not getting
[08:54] <somsip> VIpinG: possibly your gateway set up wrong, but this sort of query usually gets directed to #networking
[08:55] <VIpinG> on same lan that both machine using same gateway
[08:55] <VIpinG> i alredy cheked gateway and also ping , ping is working
[08:56] <VIpinG> even from browser i can access internot but why not with terminal
[08:56] <EriC^^> trex: type dpkg -l | grep "nvidia\|nouveau"
[08:57] <VIpinG> when browser can access then why terminal having issue
[08:57] <EriC^^> VIpinG: proxy settings?
[08:57] <trex> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13473112/
[08:57] <VIpinG> i also tried with or without proxy
[08:58] <ThePlague> VIpinG: Please try a different terminal program.
[08:58] <EriC^^> VIpinG: compare the environment on both machines
[08:59] <EriC^^> trex: sudo ubuntu-drivers devices
[08:59] <ThePlague> VIpinG: also - what are you pinging? Every address you ping does not get a response?
[08:59] <VIpinG> i am pining my gateway ip that is working
[08:59] <VIpinG> also tried with diffrent terminal even restarted system but still not working
[09:00] <skweek> https://slashdot.org/submission/5269067/lenovo-says-linux-voids-your-warrenty vote this up if you have a slashdot account
[09:00] <trex> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13473153/
[09:02] <VIpinG> from browser i have selected use system proxy setting
[09:02] <VIpinG> in browser everything working fine
[09:03] <ThePlague> VIpinG: your system sounds misconfigured. Please ensure your firewall is allowing outbound ping requests.
[09:04] <VIpinG> firewall is disable
[09:04] <ThePlague> VIpinG: Please reinstall OS.
[09:04] <somsip> ThePlague: bad advice. If you can't help, just dont
[09:04] <VIpinG> its already 3rd time installed OS but same problem
[09:05] <ThePlague> somsip: bad advice? To be fair, I don't think nobody can really help with such limited information.
[09:05] <somsip> VIpinG: it's clearly misconfigured, and #networking is usually full of networking experts
[09:05] <EriC^^> trex: try sudo apt-get install nvidia-352
[09:05] <somsip> ThePlague: I agree about the limited information, which is why I'm telling him to get help elsewhere
[09:05] <VIpinG> if it is networking problem then why internet is working on browser
[09:05] <somsip> ThePlague: ..and not trying to help directly
[09:06] <VIpinG> that should also give problem
[09:07] <trex> EriC^^: installing
[09:08] <ThePlague> VIpinG: if you boot into a live environment from disc/usb can you reproduce the problem?
[09:09] <VIpinG> yes
[09:09] <VIpinG> via usb run os getting same problem
[09:09] <somsip> VIpinG: what does your route look like?
[09:10] <EriC^^> VIpinG: go to the machine that works, type env | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:11] <EriC^^> VIpinG: on the machine that doesn't work, open the web browser and put the link and save the file, then type env > ~/env2 in a terminal
[09:11] <EriC^^> and compare the files to see what's different
[09:11] <citroniks> hi to all
[09:11] <jastinog> hi:)
[09:12] <VIpinG> EriC^^ : command just waiting nothing else
[09:12] <EriC^^> in the machine that works?
[09:12] <somsip> VIpinG: you are doing it on the machine that can connect to the internet aren't you?
[09:13] <VIpinG> EriC^^ :on working macing no output again on prompt
[09:13] <trex> EriC^^: installation finished let me log ot and re log in to check
[09:13] <EriC^^> trex: hold on
[09:13] <trex> EriC^^:OK
[09:13] <EriC^^> trex: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-generic
[09:14] <citroniks> i want to plot eth0 of RX bytes Tx bytes, how can i do by using Gnuplot please help me
[09:14] <EriC^^> VIpinG: can you connect to the other machine locally?
[09:14] <VIpinG> yes
[09:14] <VIpinG> EriC^^ :yes
[09:15] <EriC^^> VIpinG: type on the machine env > ~/env1
[09:15] <EriC^^> then from machine 2 type scp user1@host1:/home/user1/env1 ~
[09:16] <ThePlague> VIpinG: did you manually enter your IP settings?
[09:16] <lomD> hi der
[09:16] <trex> EriC^^: done
[09:17] <VIpinG> no its DHCP
[09:17] <EriC^^> trex: ok, type sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-352
[09:17] <VIpinG> EriC^^ : in output only system class path
[09:17] <EriC^^> in case it needed the headers
[09:17] <lomD> can u please tell my why my wallpaper is not shown in lock screen....it works perfectly for default wallpapers...im using ubuntu 15.10
[09:18] <VIpinG> EriC^^ : unable to locate package
[09:18] <EriC^^> VIpinG: not you :)
[09:18] <VIpinG> ok
[09:19] <VIpinG> ThePlague : DHCP
[09:20] <EriC^^> VIpinG: on the working machine, type echo $http_proxy $HTTP_PROXY
[09:20] <ThePlague> VIpinG: Do you have a cable modem by chance?
[09:20] <EriC^^> paste here
[09:20] <trex> EriC^^: done
[09:20] <EriC^^> trex: ok, try rebooting
[09:21] <VIpinG> EriC^^ :: no output blank
[09:21] <VIpinG> ThePlague : no
[09:21] <EriC^^> VIpinG: ok, on the non-working machine type the same thing
[09:22] <ThePlague> VIpinG: What kind of connection are you on? DSL, Fiber?
[09:22] <VIpinG> EriC^^ :: i have removed proxy and your command not giving out here also
[09:22] <EriC^^> VIpinG: ok, does ping 8.8.8.8 work?
[09:24] <VIpinG> EriC^^ : what is the means of 8.8.8.8 by the way not working on both machine host unreachable
[09:24] <ThePlague> It sounds like the problem is your home network.
[09:24] <ThePlague> Rule out your network devices.
[09:24] <VIpinG> ThePlague : i am my coampany lan netwrok
[09:25] <trex> EriC^^: done but nothing seems changed
[09:25] <ThePlague> VIpinG: did you talk to your IT?
[09:25] <EriC^^> trex: which resolution do you have?
[09:25] <EriC^^> trex: type xrandr -q
[09:26] <VIpinG> ThePlague : another maching is my laptop on that i have to do all configuration
[09:26] <trex> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13473443/
[09:26] <ThePlague> VIpinG: are all these machines wireless or LAN connected?
[09:26] <EriC^^> trex: type lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA
[09:27] <VIpinG> ThePlague : on LAN
[09:27] <ThePlague> VIpinG: on the broken machine I would suggest connecting the LAN cable to a different LAN port on your switch/router and then test ping.
[09:28] <VIpinG> ThePlague : i can ping my router
[09:28] <VIpinG> ThePlague : and other network machine also only internet not working
[09:30] <trex> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13473490/
[09:30] <akik> VIpinG: try setting the environment variable http_proxy to your proxy, then "wget http://ip4.me/"
[09:31] <EriC^^> trex: hmm, it doesn't say it's using any kernel module
[09:31] <EriC^^> trex: try lsmod | grep "nvidia\|nouveau" , does it show it?
[09:32] <krcevina> Hi, what actually means "mark buffer as dirty". And how is that different from "mark page as accessed"?
[09:33] <trex> EriC^^: nope
[09:33] <EriC^^> trex: try lspci -nn | grep VGA
[09:35] <trex> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13473561/
[09:37] <EriC^^> trex: try nvidia-xconfig
[09:37] <pixelate> hey -- holy crap -- i need some real help here ... this was ... 'unexpected' -- i just installed the unity3d editor for linux (not the issue), however i made the mistake of running 'unity' (/usr/bin/unity) (i thought that would launch the unity3d editor), and it completely killed my desktop environment on x
[09:38] <trex> EriC^^: UNABLE TO LACATE X CONMFIGURATION FILE
[09:38] <pixelate> even after a full restart, there's no login options in lightdm or anything ... i just get a desktop with no sidebar/titlebar/etc
[09:38] <trex> EriC^^: LOCATE
[09:38] <EriC^^> trex: try nvidia-settings
[09:39] <trex> EriC^^: appèlication just oppen
[09:39] <trex> EriC^^: but it's an empty application
[09:39] <EriC^^> trex: try gksu nvidia-settings
[09:40] <EriC^^> pixelate: sounds like you have autologin enabled and a config issue with your user
[09:41] <cage_raphel> Hello .. i am trying to login to my ubuntu 15.04 .. i put in my credentials after my system boots up.. and once i enter my credentials it just takes me to a blank screen and it never goes to the desktop
[09:41] <cage_raphel> can any one help pls?
[09:41] <trex> EriC^^: installinggksu first
[09:41] <pixelate> EriC^^: no autologin enabled
[09:41] <EriC^^> pixelate: can you right click on the background?
[09:41] <pixelate> EriC^^: yes -- i have no idea what happened -- been using ubuntu for ~10 years now ... never really had an issue like this
[09:42] <EriC^^> cage_raphel: does the guest account work?
[09:42] <pixelate> EriC^^: there is no cursor -- i can see my desktop background, and can left click, but there is nothing ... ctrl-alt-del brings up a process watch thing
[09:42] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, no the guest account does the same thing .. i click on it.. then it just stays blank
[09:42] <EriC^^> pixelate: ok, type cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:43] <trex> EriC^^: with gksu nvidia settin gs just open the sampe application " nvidia " but empty with no dataù
[09:43] <EriC^^> cage_raphel: ok, did you try an older kernel?
[09:43] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, i am sorta newbie.. how do i access the older kernel ?
[09:43] <pixelate> EriC^^: file doesn't exist
[09:43] <EriC^^> trex: ok, try sudo nvidia-xconfig
[09:44] <pixelate> EriC^^: only users.conf in that directory
[09:44] <EriC^^> pixelate: ok, after you get that screen are you able to logout from there? does ctrl+alt+t get you a terminal?
[09:44] <trex> EriC^^:
[09:44] <trex> WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.
[09:44] <trex> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[09:44] <EriC^^> cage_raphel: hold shift while the pc boots to get grub, then go to advanced > choose an older kernel
[09:45] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, ok will do that and keep u updated
[09:45] <EriC^^> trex: ok, try sudo service lightdm restart to see if it will pick up the driver
[09:45] <pixelate> EriC^^: no on the ctrl-alt-t i can right click and a context menu pops up that allows me to open a term
[09:45] <trex> sudo service lightdm restart
[09:45] <pixelate> EriC^^: no system title bars / unity menu / et
[09:46] <trex> EriC^^: with sudo service lightdm he says " unre4cognised service"
[09:46] <EriC^^> pixelate: ok, that's odd, it does sound like it's autologging in though
[09:46] <SlidingHorn> umm...did you open an openbox session somehow, pixelate?
[09:46] <pixelate> EriC^^: no -- i'm putting password in to lightdm
[09:46] <SlidingHorn> (half kidding...half not)
[09:46] <EriC^^> pixelate: oh i thought you said you get the screen straight away, nevermind then
[09:46] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, by the way .. when i reboot my machine.. it says.. checking in progress on 1 disk.. is that even normal ?
[09:47] <pixelate> SlidingHorn: i have no idea what happened -- i accidentally ran '/usr/bin/unity' (thought it was a different application i had just installed ... and then everything disappeared -- after reboot/etc. nothing there
[09:47] <pixelate> FWIW, guest user works without issue
[09:47] <EriC^^> pixelate: which de do you have installed?
[09:47] <pixelate> 15.04
[09:47] <pixelate> unity
[09:47] <pixelate> everything is more or less default configuration
[09:48] <pixelate> (btw -- i'm assuming de you mean 'desktop environment')
[09:48] <EriC^^> ok, try typing dconf reset -f /org/compiz
[09:48] <EriC^^> in that terminal you get when you login
[09:48] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, i am in the grub now.. it gives me 3 options .. *Ubuntu with inux 3.16.0-45-generic and upstart and recovery mode.. what do i choose ?
[09:48] <pixelate> EriC^^: was that instruction for me?
[09:48] <EriC^^> pixelate: yeah
[09:49] <EriC^^> cage_raphel: try recovery
[09:49] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, roger that !! :)
[09:49] <pixelate> EriC^^: did it -- restarted lightdm from tty1, logged back in, same problem
[09:50] <EriC^^> pixelate: ok, try rm -r ~/.compiz ~/.config/compiz-1
[09:51] <felicity_> hi
[09:51] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, now it gives me a wide range of options in the recovery meny.. it says.. resume with normal boot , clean to make free space, dpkg - repair broken packages, failsafex - run in failsafe graphioc mode , fsck, grub, network, root and system summary.. what do i choose?
[09:51] <pixelate> EriC^^: nada after lightdm restart and re-logging in
[09:51] <felicity_> can anyone help me to install metasploit??
[09:52] <bumbar_> how can i install https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/boost-defaults/1.58.0.0ubuntu1 on ubuntu 14.04?
[09:53] <wmorri> !ppa
[09:53] <wmorri> !addppa | bumbar_
[09:53] <EriC^^> cage_raphel: try run in failsafe graphic
[09:53] <felicity_> help me to install metasploit in ubuntu 15.10
[09:54] <EriC^^> pixelate: try mv ~/.config ~/.config.old
[09:54] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, ok will run it and keep u updated
[09:55] <VIpinG> akik : thanks your suggestion gave me solution
[09:55] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, i get a msg saying .. continuning will remount your / file system in read/write mode and mount any other filesystem defined in /etc/fstab. do u wish to continuie.. yes or no ??
[09:55] <EriC^^> yes
[09:55] <pixelate> EriC^^: yeah -- i was hoping to avoid doing something lik ethat
[09:55] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, was that answer for me ?
[09:55] <pixelate> (or toasting entire home directory ... )
[09:56] <EriC^^> cage_raphel: yeah :)
[09:56] <EriC^^> pixelate: it's a user config issue, so you have to track it down
[09:56] <pixelate> EriC^^: yeah -- that allowed unity to start regularly
[09:56] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, thanks mate :)
[09:57] <pixelate> EriC^^: yeah -- i realize that -- but dammit, that means a lot of resetting things that are REALLY ANNOYING about unity by default, like snapping windows, etc.
[09:57] <pixelate> *sigh*
[09:58] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, i get a black screen with a msg .. (EE) Server terminated with error (1). closing log file.. and it goes back to the same screen with all the menays like resume .. clean .. dpkg etc..
[09:58] <EriC^^> cage_raphel: ok, were you able to get a tty earlier when you booted as usual?
[09:59] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, what is a tty ?
[09:59] <bumbar_> wmorri, where can i see the username and ppaname?
[09:59] <EriC^^> the terminal you get when you press ctrl+alt+f1
[10:00] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, i never tried a ctrl+alt+f1
[10:00] <EriC^^> cage_raphel: ok, give it a shot
[10:00] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, so where do i go from h ere ... do i choose resume normal boot ?
[10:00] <EriC^^> nope choose quit
[10:01] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, there is no option to quit
[10:01] <EriC^^> restart ? exit?
[10:02] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, there are no options at all other than resume.. clean dpkg etc..
[10:02] <EriC^^> cage_raphel: ok, press ctrl+alt+del
[10:02] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, shall i try resume normal boot ?
[10:02] <Yossarianuk> hi - how to I stop 'ALLOWED' apparmor rules from writing to the logs?
[10:02] <Yossarianuk> e.g -> im getting lots of '[44955.878729] type=1400 audit(1448269350.768:220): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="/usr/sbin/sssd" name="/var/lib/sss/pubconf/krb5.include.d/domain_realm_ipa_xxxxx_co_uk" pid=8515 comm="ldap_child" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=0 ouid=0' - can I modify the apparmor rules to not write to the file ?
[10:03] <logg_> Hi ppl, is there an intelligent hide launcher option in ubuntu?
[10:04] <pixelate> EriC^^: well, thanks for the help -- I'll try to figure out what exactly happened from the /usr/bin/unity script and report back if i can reproduce what happened
[10:05] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, cntrl+alt+del does not work .. can i force shut down insted ?
[10:07] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, do i give a cntrl + alt+f1 at restart ?
[10:08] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, actually i did it when i put in my password.. it has kinda taken me to a terminal .. and is asking for my login
[10:08] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, it says krishnaaroona login:
[10:08] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, what do i put in here i have never seen this creen before ?
[10:08] <wmorri> bumbar_, I am not finding the normal add this ppa to your system, on that page.
[10:09] <wmorri> bumbar_, also look at this help page. http://askubuntu.com/questions/4983/what-are-ppas-and-how-do-i-use-them/40351#40351
[10:09] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, i am logged in in the tty
[10:09] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, what do i do now ?
[10:10] <EriC^^> cage_raphel: im back
[10:10] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, welcome back .. i am logged into the tty .. where do i go from here ?
[10:10] <EriC^^> cage_raphel: type lspci | grep VGA | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:10] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, is the word " type " a part of the command ?
[10:10] <EriC^^> no
[10:11] <cage_raphel> roger
[10:11] <logg_> Hi ppl, is there an intelligent hide launcher option in ubuntu?
[10:11] <bumbar_> wmorri, it seems it's in wily werewolf (15.10), i guess i'd have to upgrade ubuntu for this?
[10:11] <wmorri> bumbar_, yes if you are on 15.04
[10:11] <wmorri> or older
[10:12] <bumbar_> i'm on 14.04, but i only need this one package... seems kinda wasteful to upgrade everything
[10:12] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, ok .. now it says http://termbin.com/tsp5
[10:12] <wmorri> bumbar_, sorry I didn't see you were on 14.04. My apologizes
[10:13] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, and it says krishnaroona@krishnaroona:"$
[10:14] <EriC^^> cage_raphel: ok, type cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:15] <wmorri> bumbar_, I don't have a good solution, I can check with EriC^^ and see if he has any thoughts.
[10:16] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, it says no such file or directory
[10:17] <wmorri> EriC^^, I am helping bumbar_ and he trying to install a ppa that says it only works on 15.10 and he has 14.04.
[10:17] <EriC^^> wmorri: which package is he trying to install?
[10:17] <bumbar_> wmorri, i'll just upgrade to 15.10, might as well report bugs along the way :)
[10:18] <wmorri> EriC^^, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/boost-defaults/1.58.0.0ubuntu1
[10:18] <EriC^^> cage_raphel: are you sure of the spelling? Xorg.0.log ? the second 0 is a zero not the letter o
[10:19] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, lemme tyope the command again .. it does look right to me.. but i dont wanna take a chance
[10:19] <logg_> Hi ppl, is there an intelligent hide launcher option in ubuntu?
[10:19] <logg_> Hi ppl, is there an intelligent hide launcher option in ubuntu?
[10:20] <yuriy> Hello
[10:20] <yuriy> i've got a problem with placing mysql data on other partition
[10:21] <yuriy> i tried different experiments without success
[10:21] <yuriy> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-831147.html
[10:21] <EriC^^> logg_: settings > appearance > behavior
[10:22] <yuriy> those instractions are listed everywhere, but i can't get the reason why it's not working for me
[10:22] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, it says.. Cat: var/log/Vorg.0.log: no such file or directory .. use net cat.
[10:22] <EriC^^> Xorg.0.log you mean?
[10:23] <logg_> EriC^^: you can make it autohide, but is there an option to make it intelligent hide. To hide only when i put an app to full screen
[10:23] <yuriy> my another partition disc mounted here: /media/yuriy/work
[10:23] <wmorri> bumbar_, sounds good, best of luck with everything!
[10:23] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, yes that is correct
[10:23] <EriC^^> logg_: oh, don't know about that, maybe there's a ppa for it
[10:23] <VIpinG> hi
[10:23] <EriC^^> cage_raphel: are you putting a "/" before var ?
[10:24] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, its / var
[10:24] <yuriy> so i placed related patches here: /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld, /etc/mysql/mysql.conf.d/mysqld.cnf
[10:24] <yuriy> *pathes
[10:25] <yuriy> my full path is /media/yuriy/work/storage/mysql_data/
[10:25] <yuriy> so /media/yuriy/work is mounted disc
[10:26] <yuriy> work is label of my disc
[10:26] <EriC^^> cage_raphel: it should be there, type ls -l /var/log
[10:26] <EriC^^> do you see it listed?
[10:26] <yuriy> anybody know what's the pb is, how to resolve that
[10:27] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, when i put that command it gives me a big list
[10:27] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, it shows about syslog , root
[10:27] <flip621> Hi. How would I reconfigure the list of locales in wily? "debconf-show locales" shows no questions and no answers, "dpkg-reconfigure locales" just regenerates the en_* ones.
[10:27] <yuriy> logs say:
[10:28] <yuriy> 2015-11-23 12:18:44 0 [Note] /usr/sbin/mysqld (mysqld 5.6.27-0ubuntu1) starting as process 15558 ...
[10:28] <yuriy> 2015-11-23 12:18:44 15558 [Warning] Can't create test file /media/yuriy/work/storage/mysql_data/yuriy-Inspiron-5521.lower-test
[10:28] <yuriy> 2015-11-23 12:18:44 15558 [Warning] Can't create test file /media/yuriy/work/storage/mysql_data/yuriy-Inspiron-5521.lower-test
[10:28] <yuriy> /usr/sbin/mysqld: Can't change dir to '/media/yuriy/work/storage/mysql_data/' (Errcode: 13 - Permission denied)
[10:28] <yuriy> 2015-11-23 12:18:44 15558 [ERROR] Aborting
[10:28] <EriC^^> cage_raphel: do you see it at the bottom area?
[10:28] <EriC^^> yuriy: use paste.ubuntu.com for pastes
[10:28] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, it all shows root at the bottom area
[10:29] <trex> EriC^^: sorry but my pc disconnected and iu couldn't reconnect
[10:29] <EriC^^> cage_raphel: on the right side does it say Xorg.0.log ?
[10:29] <trex> EriC^^: stiull have the same problem
[10:29] <yuriy> ok, sorry for that
[10:29] <EriC^^> trex: ok, type cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:29] <yuriy> i hope anybody helps
[10:29] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, on the right side.. the last output is 5799 Nov 22 19:54 Xorg.failsafe.log.old
[10:30] <EriC^^> cage_raphel: ok, is there Xorg.0.log somewhere above it?
[10:31] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, yes that is positive.. there is a Xorg.0.log
[10:32] <Kraken> anyone here?
[10:33] <EriC^^> cage_raphel: ok, type cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log , does it output anything?
[10:34] <bluenemo> hi guys. when I run locale-gen I get Error: Bad entry 'de_DE.UTF-8 ' , I see the extra whitespace but dont find the file where this is defined
[10:34] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, it outputs a lot of this..
[10:34] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, its a big much of a output
[10:34] <EriC^^> cage_raphel: ok, type cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:36] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, ok .. now it says .. http:// termbin .com/wzqj
[10:36] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, and it has not returned to my login name.
[10:37] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, it has now returned to my login name
[10:37] <EriC^^> cage_raphel: ok, type sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel
[10:37] <wmorri> bluenemo, enter cat /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local and tell me if you get anything?
[10:39] <AQLIVE> hi Eric
[10:39] <AQLIVE> are you here
[10:39] <HackerII> busy
[10:39] <EriC^^> yeah, i'm here
[10:40] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, it tried to install someting .. now it says .. E: unable to correct problems , you have held broken packages
[10:40] <EriC^^> cage_raphel: try sudo apt-get -f install
[10:40] <AQLIVE> I've done the chkdsk and it found no problems. What should I do now then?
[10:40] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: try sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt again
[10:41] <AQLIVE> ok I'll restart it into ubuntu then
[10:41] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, output.. 0 to upgrqade, 0 to newly install and 0 to remove,, and 330 not to upgrade
[10:41] <EriC^^> cage_raphel: what happened before you lost the desktop?
[10:42] <bluenemo> wmorri, I already looked into that and /etc/environment, nothing with an extra whitespace :(
[10:42] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, nothing happened.. it was all good.. it was just in sleep mode.. i dont normally leave it in sleep mode..
[10:43] <bluenemo> strange..
[10:43] <AQLIVE> I think it mounted
[10:43] <AQLIVE> then what
[10:43] <EriC^^> bluenemo: try grep -r 'de_DE.UTF-8 ' /etc ~/
[10:44] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: great, type ls -l /mnt/bootmgr
[10:44] <EriC^^> cage_raphel: ok, type sudo apt-get update
[10:44] <EriC^^> cage_raphel: then type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:45] <EriC^^> bluenemo: use sudo with it
[10:45] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, may u live a 100 years mate.. i just put those commands in even before i said...
[10:45] <AQLIVE> no such file or directory
[10:45] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, .. looksw like i am learning !! :")
[10:45] <EriC^^> cage_raphel: :)
[10:45] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: ok, try sudo umount /mnt
[10:46] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: then type sudo update-grub , see if it picks up windows this time
[10:46] <wmorri> bluenemo, are you trying to add that file to your list then?
[10:48] <bluenemo> EriC^^, I already tried the grep. No I just took over this server and the website on it has localization issues
[10:48] <AQLIVE> Linux image, initrd image, memtest86+ image, memtest86+ image is what it finds
[10:48] <bluenemo> it thinks its english
[10:49] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: ok, type sudo nano /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[10:51] <AQLIVE> and then what should I write in the file
[10:51] <wmorri> bluenemo, if you need to add a language pack just use this command: sudo apt-get install language-pack-XX
[10:52] <wmorri> and then use sudo update-locale
[10:53] <bazhang> AQLIVE, use tab complete to show who you are talking to
[10:53] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: add this http://paste.ubuntu.com/13474548/
[10:53] <flip621> how can I configure the list of locales?
[10:54] <wmorri> flip621, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[10:54] <AQLIVE> EriC^^: Could you give me the link again
[10:55] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13474548/
[10:56] <wmorri> flip621, if you just need a list of them you can use locate -a
[10:56] <AQLIVE_> EriC^^: and then what
[10:57] <EriC^^> flip621: * locale -a
[10:57] <wmorri> thanks EriC^^
[10:57] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: press ctrl+o to save
[10:57] <AQLIVE_> EriC^^: I did that
[10:57] <AQLIVE_> :D
[10:58] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: type sudo update-grub
[10:58] <AQLIVE_> EriC^^: same as before
[10:59] <EriC^^> it didn't say windows ?
[10:59] <AQLIVE_> nope :(
[11:00] <bluenemo> wmorri, just did that. do I need to restart my apache / php-fpm to pick up the changes?
[11:00] <AQLIVE_> menuentry "Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)" { insmod part_msdos insmod ntfs set root='(hd0,msdos1)' chainloader +1 }
[11:01] <AQLIVE_> EriC^^: /etc/grub.d/40_custom: 1: /etc/grub.d/40_custom: X#!/bin/sh: not found done
[11:01] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: type cat /etc/grub.d/40_custom | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:01] <b019> hllo
[11:01] <b019> moin
[11:02] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: i think there's an X before #!/bin/bash in the file
[11:02] <AQLIVE_> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/hdly
[11:02] <b019> everythng all right
[11:02] <b019_> wat für ding
[11:02] <b019> iam so gay
[11:02] <b019_> juuuude
[11:02] <wmorri> bluenemo, you might, I haven't had to add a new language before.
[11:02] <b019> panda
[11:02] <b019__> hallo
[11:02] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: ok, it looks good, remove the X before #!/bin/bash and save
[11:02] <b019__> anton?
[11:02] <b019> ihr nig*ahs
[11:02] <b019_> du huan
[11:02] <wmorri> !ot | b019
[11:02] <b019__> was willst du
[11:03] <b019_> anntoooon
[11:03] <b019__> alt dein maul
[11:03] <b019__> du pimmel
[11:03] <EriC^^> !ops | 89.1.10.122 trolling and flooding
[11:04] <yuriy> hey guys i'm feeling so stupid to get understanding what's wrong with my configuration
[11:04] <Caelum> I'm trying to install a 32 bit package, but it is telling me: Note, selecting 'libavcodec-ffmpeg-dev' instead of 'libavcodec-ffmpeg-dev:i386'
[11:04] <Guest30411> hi!
[11:04] <b019_> hallo
[11:04] <b019_> kkk
[11:04] <Caelum> why is it doing that
[11:04] <AQLIVE_> EriC^^: OK but still no windows 7
[11:05] <bluenemo> Drone`, can you ban b019 or whatever his name? He is spamming racist curses in german
[11:06] <Caelum> and apt-cache policy says this package does not exist
[11:06] <Kazooie> Hi. I have a computer running Ubuntu 14.10 and I want to upgrade it to 15.04 then 15.10 but `sudo do-release-upgrade` 404's on the repos. Is there another way to upgrade without having to download a new copy (the computer has a busted cd drive and doesn't accept Flash drive installs)
[11:06] <bazhang> bluenemo, thats a bot
[11:06] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: update-grub doesn't show it?
[11:06] <DJones> bluenemo: They've already been quieted, so they spam the channel
[11:06] <bluenemo> ah ok
[11:07] <Caelum> Kazooie: use dist-upgrade
[11:07] <Caelum> Kazooie: and you can go straight to 15.10
[11:08] <AQLIVE_> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13474705/
[11:08] <Kazooie> Caelum: dist-upgrade is showing that there is no updates.
[11:09] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: type ls -l /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[11:09] <trex> EriC^^: i'm trying to do everything
[11:09] <trex> but nothing is changing here
[11:09] <EriC^^> trex: did you try a different driver from the list?
[11:09] <wmorri> Kazooie, you want do-release-upgrade if you want to upgrade to a newer release.
[11:09] <EriC^^> 352-updates or 340/340-updates ?
[11:10] <trex> EriC^^: i found the right driver,on the website,i've opened a shell,killed x and launched the installer for nvidia drivers
[11:10] <Caelum> what is the package for the 32 bit cross build toolchain
[11:10] <trex> EriC^^: before the end of the installation it say unable to load kjeernel
[11:10] <jpds> Caelum: That went away with multiarch
[11:11] <freakyy> hi all. i have a problem while trying to install ati driver. i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/13474477/ and i need to unload those kernel modules - how can i dot hat?
[11:11] <Caelum> jpds: well gcc -m32 is telling me it can't find libgcc
[11:11] <Caelum> jpds: so I must be missing something
[11:12] <Caelum> or doing something wrong
[11:13] <AQLIVE_> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13474770/
[11:13] <freakyy> will restart now maybe i found the problem
[11:15] <flip621> wmorri: EriC^^: "dpkg-reconfigure locales" just rebuilds the defined locales, and "debconf-show locales" shows no answers and no questions.
[11:17] <wmorri> flip621, locales -a this will show what you have on your system.
[11:17] <wmorri> flip621, locale -a
[11:19] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: ok, type cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:19] <flip621> wmorri: yes, and I'd like to change the list of available locales.
[11:20] <EriC^^> trex: maybe it's made for an older or newer kernel?
[11:20] <wmorri> flip621, what do you want to change about the list?
[11:20] <AQLIVE_> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/d7zs
[11:20] <home> hi all, how can I access my files within an ecrypted home from a live cd?
[11:20] <flip621> wmorri: I'd like to get german locales in
[11:20] <trex> EriC^^: i don't know what happened i could set it up dAYS AGO THAN I HAD TO REINSTAL EVERYTHING AND FROM NOW ON HASN'T WORKED
[11:21] <wmorri> flip621, sudo apt-get install language-pack-XX
[11:21] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: ok, it seems to be there, try restarting and holding shift to get grub and choose windows
[11:21] <wmorri> flip621, where XX is the language pack you want to install.
[11:22] <AQLIVE_> ok I'll try that - thanks and keep your fingers crossed :D
[11:22] <EriC^^> :D
[11:23] <EriC^^> trex: try sudo apt-get update , then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:23] <home> How can I get access to my files from a live cd with encrypted home? Both the installd and live system are 14.04
[11:24] <AQLIVE> EriC^^: I did that and it could not see a windows 7 in the boot upmenu but it said bootmgr missing when I tried to load the windows 7 installation
[11:25] <EriC^^> home: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1597246
[11:25] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: so you saw windows in grub but it said bootmgr is missing?
[11:26] <Caelum> apt-file seems to not be working for me
[11:26] <Caelum> apt-file search <anything> returns nothing
[11:26] <AQLIVE> EriC^^: Yes
[11:26] <EriC^^> Caelum: did you update the cache?
[11:26] <Caelum> and I did a sudo apt-file update
[11:27] <EriC^^> Caelum: try sudo apt-file update again
[11:27] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: ok, are you in ubuntu right now?
[11:27] <AQLIVE> yes
[11:27] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[11:27] <EriC^^> then type ls -l /mnt , is the windows install still there?
[11:28] <AQLIVE> and then
[11:29] <AQLIVE> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13474947/
[11:29] <Caelum> EriC^^: it looks like it doesn't use the global cache anymore if you aren't running it as root, I had to do an apt-file update without the sudo and now it works
[11:29] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: that doesn't look too good
[11:29] <EriC^^> ( that's an understatement )
[11:30] <AQLIVE> I was affraid you'd say that
[11:30] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: try sudo testdisk
[11:30] <EriC^^> Caelum: oh ok, cool, good to know!
[11:32] <home> EriC^^: I get a warning that I've never mounted with that key before
[11:32] <AQLIVE> EriC^^: And then repair MFT ??? from within the advance menu and NTFS
[11:32] <asir__> idp1516
[11:32] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: hmm, first to list the files
[11:32] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: don't try any repairs yet
[11:33] <EriC^^> *first try to
[11:33] <tokam> After an update to Ubuntu 15.10 my xorg session does not start after boot up.
[11:33] <tokam> I get an error in a file named main.c
[11:34] <tokam> But I can run startx -- :1 tty8
[11:34] <AQLIVE> EriC^^: please select the partition table type and press enter screen right now
[11:34] <AQLIVE> EriC^^:I'm at the - please select the partition table type and press enter screen right now
[11:35] <flip621> wmorri: thanks, that did help. but is it not possible anymore to *deselect* locales?
[11:35] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: ok, choose Intel
[11:35] <ring3> hi guys
[11:36] <AQLIVE> EriC^^: and then
[11:36] <ring3> do you know how my dirmngr is doing a 'su root'?
[11:36] <ring3> is that normal?
[11:36] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: then analyze
[11:36] <EriC^^> ring3: he probably has set the root password
[11:37] <ring3> su[1445]: Successful su for dirmngr by root
[11:37] <AQLIVE> EriC^^: and then the NTFS partion right?
[11:37] <ring3> maybe cron, is droping from root to dirmngr user?
[11:37] <EriC^^> ring3: that means he was root and did su dirmngr
[11:38] <ring3> yep, but i dont did that
[11:38] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: yeah, press p to list the files
[11:38] <home> How can I get access to fileswithin encrypted home?
[11:39] <cfhowlett> home, decrypt and access. no decryption, no access. kind of the point of it, yes?
[11:39] <AQLIVE> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13475078/
[11:39] <EriC^^> ring3: maybe he has a cron that uses su dirmngr
[11:41] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: ok, highlight the ntfs one, and press p
[11:41] <wmorri> flip621, sudo apt-get remove language-pack-XX should do what you want.
[11:41] <home> cfhowlett: sure, and I'd like to be able to get a hold of my files from a live cd. So how do I do that?
[11:41] <m1dnight_> What is the idiomatic way to set default values for an upstart script? /etc/default/ is not being used, so it seems..
[11:41] <m1dnight_> And I dont know how to google it tbh
[11:42] <wmorri> flip621, other than that I don't know a way.
[11:42] <cfhowlett> !encryption | home see the links. depends on the exact encryption method you used
[11:43] <AQLIVE> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13475133/
[11:44] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: looks like it's empty
[11:44] <ring3> tx
[11:45] <AQLIVE> EriC^^: meaning
[11:45] <flip621> wmorri: thanks
[11:45] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: if the files weren't important i'd just reinstall windows, if they were important you can try using photorec to get them back
[11:45] <daniel> ok
[11:45] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: try the repair mft thing if you want
[11:46] <wmorri> flip621, your welcome :)
[11:47] <Guest98333> need support
[11:47] <AQLIVE> EriC^^: MFT and MFT mirror are bad. Failed to repair them.
[11:49] <home> cfhowlett: that works, thanks
[11:49] <cfhowlett> home, happy2help!
[11:49] <problemmaker> Hi, I've installed ubuntu 15.10 and nvidia 353.63 via "additional drivers". I can switch from nvidia to intel insisde nvidia-settings without problems but after switching back to nvidia and signing off I get an error. black screen with an window where I can choose low graphics mode or configure the card myself or something like that. after rebooting nvidia is working normally I guess
[11:52] <MrFastDie> Hey guys! Someone here who'd like to teach me some funktions in Armitage?
[11:53] <cfhowlett> MrFastDie, wrong channel
[11:53] <MrFastDie> Which I have to visit?
[11:54] <cfhowlett> !alis | MrFastDie,
[11:55] <al2o3-cr> /join #armitage
[11:55] <al2o3-cr> ^ MrFastDie
[11:56] <MrFastDie> Thank you! :D
[11:57] <motaka2> While starting ubuntu 12.04 after seeing the grub os selection page , I see the mouse pointer for a secons and then I see a black screen. I tried to load by editing the grub with nomodset by pressing ctrl+e and then then changing it and then pressing ctrl+x
[11:57] <motaka2> but not only nothiing changed but also after the restart I see nomodeset is removed from the grub
[11:58] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: there might be a way to recover it, ask in ##windows maybe
[12:04] <tokam> After upgrading to 15.10 on startup xorg does not showup but I get this message
[12:04] <tokam> [main.c:1921] check_verbosity:redirecting debug output to /dev/tty7
[12:09] <huwjr> can anyone explain why curl -v shows a bunch of libraries (such as zlib libidn etc) - but when I use curl on CLI they are not included in the post??
[12:09] <huwjr> this is really winding me up lol
[12:23] <bumbar> I was installing Ubuntu 15.10 and pc froze midway, and then I got kernel panic unable to sync vfs error, so from live cd I've rangrub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda and now I've got grub open, what should I type in?
[12:25] <akik> huwjr: what is the problem? if you use -V (capital) it shows the versions and protocols
[12:26] <akik> huwjr: if you use -V you can not download files
[12:26] <huwjr> Yeah, I know this sounds dumb (and it’s only the user agent after all) but I am having a problem with CURL and the only thing differing between multiple hosts when I run a curl from command line the useragent misses a bunch of required libraries
[12:26] <huwjr> for example a known working host returns:
[12:26] <huwjr> > User-Agent: curl/7.22.0 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.22.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1 zlib/1.2.3.4 libidn/1.23 librtmp/2.3
[12:26] <huwjr> the one that isn’t working properly returns
[12:26] <huwjr> > User-Agent: curl/7.35.0
[12:27] <huwjr> does curl not by default include libraries in the user agent anymore ? or is there something more sinister going on.
[12:27] <youngcj> how can i launch hotspot in ubuntu it refuse to show my mac address
[12:28] <killall> Hello, i need some help, i have 2 usb devices purchased in diferent times and one works and the other does not work. Booth work in windows. SONiX USB Device in lsusb detects as 0c45:8419 Microdia
[12:28] <freakyy> hm i cant get gw2 to work. it freezes my screen with playonlinux
[12:28] <akik> huwjr: probably those missing libraries make it so that you can not use https for example
[12:28] <huwjr> but they are there in curl -V
[12:28] <huwjr> but not in the user agent
[12:28] <akik> huwjr: but you said that "the one that isn’t working properly returns"
[12:28] <huwjr> curl -V on good host = curl 7.22.0 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.22.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1 zlib/1.2.3.4 libidn/1.23 librtmp/2.3
[12:29] <huwjr> curl -V on bad host = curl 7.35.0 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.35.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1f zlib/1.2.8 libidn/1.28 librtmp/2.3
[12:29] <youngcj> is someone hearing me out there
[12:30] <killall> youngcj, a lot of marcians rare
[12:30] <youngcj> i need a help to launch a hotspot
[12:31] <home> I'm having problems logging in via lightdm, terminal login works. I've just reinstalled and restored my home from the backup, but I'm afraid something got messed up. I have the same username but the uid has changed from 1001 on the old system to 1000 on the new. Could that be related?
[12:31] <akik> huwjr: what is the error message you're getting with curl 7.35.0 ?
[12:32] <killall> youngcj, you want a hotspot?
[12:32] <huwjr> akik
[12:32] <huwjr> 2mins - think i’ve got somewhere!!
[12:32] <killall> you will ned a decent router mikrotik already has that in the firmware, otherwise look at coovachili ;)
[12:33] <akik> huwjr: some web sites might refuse to service curl but you can change the http user agent
[12:49] <freakyy> hi all. is there a possibility to style gdm?
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> freakyy: theme?
[12:52] <freakyy> lotuspsychje: yea and other options i dont know
[12:52] <kostkon> freakyy, http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=150
[13:00] <nbusrone> Does anyone know how to disable usb3 wakeup for specific port ? and as for permanent ?
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> nbusrone: whats your end goal with this?
[13:02] <freakyy> hm, the only thing i wanna do is change the background of gdm to a solid color - is that posible?
[13:02] <AlexQ> What is the fastest way to copy a filesystem from partition A to B? I mean, I want something like dd, but that won't waste time copying empty spaces (but leave fragmentation and filesystem size as they are).
[13:02] <freakyy> i dont want a real theme
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> AlexQ: clonezilla perhaps?
[13:03] <frostschutz> AlexQ, dd bs=1G iflag=fullblock if=/dev/sdx3 of=/dev/sdx4 - or regular rsync -aAHSX (and not care about fragmentation), take your pick
[13:04] <AlexQ> frostschutz: How does dd know which blocks are full? Is if filesystem-aware?
[13:05] <frostschutz> AlexQ, no. at best you could conv=sparse to skip zeroed blocks, but the target has to be zeroed as well for that to work, or the copy will be corrupt
[13:06] <freakyy> ok nm it looks like gdm cant be styled like gnome can be
[13:06] <freakyy> in gnome u can select a solid backgruond color
[13:06] <frostschutz> AlexQ, but as long as your filesystem is not 90% empty, it will still be faster to dd it all than to do anything else
[13:06] <thatkid_> hello, I spinned a Ubuntu vm from azure, and downloaded some stuff into it, I want to download that from azure to my computer How can I do that?
[13:06] <killall> thatkid_, man scp or man rsynx
[13:06] <killall> *rsync
[13:10] <AlexQ> frostschutz: Actually I changed my mind; I think it would be nice to have the filesystem defragmented for not-so-enormous time penalty by just copying file by file. So that rsync -aAHSX should be much faster than regular cp -R?
[13:11] <Kartagis> does Xenial Xerus exist as alpha?
[13:11] <Kartagis> aka Ubuntu 16.04
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> Kartagis: still in daily build stage
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> Kartagis: join #ubuntu+1
[13:11] <frostschutz> AlexQ, no, but rsync can resume in case of problems in between and such
[13:12] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje : Goal ? Actually I am having problem with 14.04. USB3.0 port connect with an external 2.5 drive get auto restart when I shut down the pc.
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> nbusrone: that should not happen, try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugin your external to see errors?
[13:13] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje : Someone mention it's probably the wakeup option on usb3.0 port which need to disable the wakeup option on ubuntu.While using windows it doesn't auto restart
[13:13] <AlexQ> thanks frostschutz
[13:15] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje : it'd days before , let me check the log please wait a min
[13:15] <orf_> Hey all, I'm having a weird problem with some GUI programs. Sometimes they go like this: http://i.imgur.com/JQqaoic.png
[13:15] <orf_> it's like they are drawing lots of the same panels over eachother. It's really really annoying and affects a few programs seemingly randomly
[13:16] <orf_> but hits Virtualbox more often than not. Has anyone experienced this before?
[13:17] <orf_> (and seems to only effect QT based programs)
[13:23] <kcud_dab_> Bitcoin provider of ISIS https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/arthurbouquet/
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> !ot | kcud_dab_
[13:24] <cfhowlett> kcud_dab_, thanks for the spam and enjoy membership in my /ignore list
[13:24] <cfhowlett> /s
[13:26] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje : how to check for errors ? currently I am not too sure where's the log line i should search
[13:26] <bumbar> i was upgrading to 15.10 and something went wrong, then i've tried to fix grub with livecd, and now when i reboot i'm prompted by grub, then i "mount" the disk and next i'm shown an initramfs prompt. i've tried fixing a superblock but didn't help
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> nbusrone: anything related to your usb or external hd perhaps
[13:27] <bumbar> on livecd i can see the disk, it's listed under /dev/ubuntu-vg/root
[13:27] <EriC^^> bumbar: are you on the live session right now?
[13:28] <bumbar> yeah
[13:28] <EriC^^> type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:28] <orf_> so nobody knows why my QT programs are spazzing out left right and center?
[13:29] <bumbar> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/in8c
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> orf_: this only happens in virtualbox?
[13:29] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje : a bunch of usb right now on my sys log , need to check what casing the error
[13:29] <orf_> lotuspsychje: seems like it happens to a few different QT based programs
[13:29] <orf_> but I use virtualbox the most
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> orf_: but does it also happen outside vm in your ubuntu desktop
[13:30] <orf_> yes, it happened in the gnome preferences page
[13:30] <orf_> it seems like the window is being drawn multiple times ontop of eachother
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> orf_: wich ubuntu version?µ
[13:31] <orf_> latest, 15.10
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> orf_: wich graphics card chipset and driver?
[13:31] <orf_> intel based, let me find out exactly
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> orf_: did you have this on LTS?
[13:33] <orf_> lotuspsychje: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b)
[13:33] <orf_> I haven't used LTS, I went into 15.10
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> orf_: what does driver= mention?
[13:34] <orf_> configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> orf_: ok good, i would try a live 14.04 LTS to test
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> orf_: might be a glitch in 15.10
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> orf_: or file a bug on 15.10
[13:35] <orf_> I think I will file a bug, this is my work machine and I can't afford the time to re-install 14.04
[13:35] <orf_> I saw a stack overflow post with someone with the same issue, so it's not just me
[13:35] <orf_> I'll try and find that and include it in the report
[13:35] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje : maybe you can have a look
[13:35] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje : http://pastebin.com/JC7Rhh69
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> orf_: try to run your qt packages from terminal, see what error it gives
[13:36] <orf_> ooh, that's a good idea
[13:36] <orf_> I'll try that, thanks lotuspsychje
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> nbusrone: could you try plugin your hd to usb from the guest user, to see if it happens there also?
[13:38] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje : will it be different ?
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> nbusrone: not sure, lets test
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> nbusrone: dont see anything unusual in syslog
[13:39] <sm520> hello
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> nbusrone: try same tail -f /var/log/dmesg perhaps
[13:42] <EriC^^> bumbar: type sudo mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root /mnt
[13:42] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje : as mention from someone , the USB3.0 device trigger a shutdown option on 14.04 as wakeup.So it just looping wakeup even I safely remove the drive.But it only trigger once but it's troublesome when it auto restart even I plug out the drive.
[13:42] <bumbar> EriC^^: ok
[13:43] <hyperspace> Hi all, I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and I have an issue with the rc.local file. The scripts whithin the the rc.local file are not running at startup. The file attributes are "-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 454 Nov 23 12:47 rc.local". After the system boot, I can succesfully start all the scripts withing the file by simply executing the rc.local file (/etc/rc.local). So it seems that the rc.local file is not executed at system boot. Can someone he
[13:43] <TJ-> hyperspace: have you but the scripts being called *before* the final "exit 0" in that file?
[13:43] <hyperspace> TJ-: yes, exit 0 is the LAST line in the file
[13:44] <EriC^^> what scripts
[13:44] <hyperspace> TJ-: I have also tried removing the -e flag from /bin/sh
[13:44] <TJ-> hyperspace: have you ensured all your sub-scripts return success too?
[13:45] <hyperspace> TJ-: well, if I execute the rc.local file after the system boots, all the scripts run succesfully
[13:45] <hyperspace> EriC^^: some iptables scripts
[13:45] <nbusrone> TJ- : Hi again :)
[13:46] <bumbar> EriC^^: should i follow http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd starting with chroot part?
[13:47] <hyperspace> TJ-: I have two iptables scritps in the rc.local file (one for ipv4 the other for ipv6), if I run them individualy and run "echo $?" after their exection, I get "0"
[13:47] <EriC^^> bumbar: hmm, did you type the mount command?
[13:47] <bumbar> yeah, it's mounted ok
[13:48] <EriC^^> bumbar: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot
[13:48] <hyperspace> TJ-: brb in 5 min
[13:48] <bumbar> EriC^^: done
[13:48] <EriC^^> bumbar: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[13:49] <bumbar> done
[13:49] <EriC^^> bumbar: sudo chroot /mnt
[13:49] <bumbar> done
[13:49] <EriC^^> update-initramfs -u -k all
[13:51] <bumbar> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/Dw3t7LhK
[13:52] <EriC^^> bumbar: dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:52] <TJ-> hyperspace: ok, so /etc/init.d/rc.local is the init script for /etc/rc.local. I'm not seeing any job calls it though
[13:53] <bumbar> EriC^^: nc: getaddrinfo: Temporary failure in name resolution, but here's the output http://pastebin.com/SuxCQjiW
[13:54] <EriC^^> bumbar: which ubuntu did you upgrade to? 15.10?
[13:54] <bumbar> yeah, from 14.04
[13:54] <EriC^^> bumbar: how'd you do that?
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> oh-oh
[13:56] <bumbar> EriC^^: do-release-upgrade -d
[13:56] <EriC^^> interesting
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> bumbar: its not reccomended to upgrade LTS to non-lts
[13:57] <EriC^^> bumbar: ok, type apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-{63..68}-generic
[13:57] <bumbar> i was not aware of that :P
[13:58] <[nitro]> helllo ... i switched from nvidia-340 to intel onboard and run intel-graphis installer latest and my ubuntu 15.10 with unity wont come to login screen
[13:58] <hyperspace> TJ-: is there a way to log the exact order in which the scripts are started at boot?
[13:58] <TJ-> hyperspace: does "service rc.local start" work correctly? Which run-level is being used (2 is the default for multiuser)? Is the sylink in /etc/rc2.d/S99rc.local ?
[13:59] <hyperspace> TJ-: let me check that
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> [nitro]: you should not install intel driver for that, but use nvidia-settings to switch
[13:59] <TJ-> hyperspace: the symlink for the active runlevel in /etc/rc<runlevel>.d/S99rc.local is the important bit
[14:00] <hyperspace> TJ-: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Jun 10 2014 /etc/rc2.d/S99rc.local -> ../init.d/rc.local
[14:00] <[nitro]> lotuspsychje, how do i just install nvidia-settings ?
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> [nitro]: install nvidia-prime and enable your nvidia driver
[14:01] <vooze> Is anyone using intel rapid start + the partition for it? I got it working but sometimes the laptop will wake at random (probably intel rapid start wakes it, but does not shut down again) Did not happen before I testet intel rapid start.
[14:01] <[nitro]> my nvidia card is removed only intel onboard left
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> [nitro]: then you can enable/disable performance mode in nvidia-settings
[14:01] <[nitro]> i only go to x with startx no borders
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> [nitro]: dont use startx mate
[14:02] <bumbar> EriC^^: purging done
[14:02] <EriC^^> bumbar: ok, type apt-get install --reinstall linux-generic
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> [nitro]: any reason you disable nvidia?
[14:02] <[nitro]> probably broken fan is stopped working
[14:02] <bumbar> its installed
[14:03] <[nitro]> i need that mascine
[14:03] <[nitro]> now doesnt work gui
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | [nitro]
[14:04] <EriC^^> bumbar: ok, type dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[14:04] <[nitro]> i can come to terminal login with user
[14:04] <[nitro]> only lightdm doestn start or i dont know why
[14:04] <nbusrone> TJ- : Hi on the previous day you mention on my HD wakeup option , here's the pastebin http://pastebin.com/vtqkeuUv vs http://pastebin.com/QHhrEgtC
[14:05] <bumbar> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/rhUk8gXh
[14:05] <nbusrone> TJ- : sudo dd of=/sys/bus/devices/4-1" ?
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> [nitro]: the problem is you disabled nvidia and cant fallback to the intel driver
[14:05] <[nitro]> yes
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> [nitro]: try the recoverymode/fix broken packages
[14:06] <[nitro]> ok i will try now wait a sec
[14:06] <EriC^^> bumbar: ok, type apt-get purge linux-image-extra-3.13.0-32-generic
[14:07] <bumbar> another purge completed
[14:07] <EriC^^> bumbar: ok, type grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[14:08] <EriC^^> bumbar: actually, try to reinstall the grub package as /boot was out of space at the time of the upgrade
[14:08] <EriC^^> bumbar: type dpkg -l | grep grub
[14:09] <hyperspace> TJ-: I've also checked the /var/log/boot.log file, I don't see any errors. Is it possible that some of the daemons that run before the rc.local might affect its execution?
[14:09] <bumbar> EriC^^: grep returned nothing, and i can't install grub package because it has issues resolving urls
[14:11] <[nitro]> lotuspsychje, it removed something now rebooting
[14:12] <EriC^^> bumbar: are you sure you typed dpkg -l | grep grub ?
[14:13] <[nitro]> lotuspsychje, still com in low graphics mode and suggest do setup ... i alway get xorr
[14:13] <[nitro]> xorg.conf with some basic nvidia settings
[14:15] <[nitro]> and somethigh else i did some commnd with echo to put nouveau inside didnt removed that yet
[14:15] <[nitro]> that was mistaken but done
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> [nitro]: can you boot into your desktop now?
[14:17] <[nitro]> no it puts me in terminal after seeing lightdm stat
[14:18] <[nitro]> start
[14:19] <[nitro]> its intel g41 card onboard
[14:19] <keyf> Is there a way to increase entropy generation on ubuntu? I'm trying to read a few kb from /dev/random and its been 30 minutes already
[14:20] <finn_> Hi everyone
[14:21] <bumbar> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/sFKngd2P
[14:22] <PITBEAST> can anyone help with repairing a corrupt/truncated .zip using ubuntu?
[14:24] <EriC^^> bumbar: ok, try apt-get update , then apt-get dist-upgrade ,
[14:24] <EriC^^> bumbar: don't install grub, as it's the legacy one, install grub2
[14:24] <[nitro]> graphics is intel 4 series rev 03
[14:24] <[nitro]> says lscpi
[14:25] <[nitro]> lspci
[14:25] <bumbar> EriC^^: can't update :/ http://pastebin.com/DXtsR1MJ
[14:25] <EriC^^> bumbar: you have 16.04 right now btw
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> [nitro]: if recoverymode cant get you in, you might need a reinstall
[14:26] <[nitro]> i try again
[14:26] <EriC^^> bumbar: hmm, ok, try grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[14:26] <EriC^^> then update-grub
[14:26] <keyf> Is there a way to increase entropy generation on ubuntu? I'm trying to read a few kb from /dev/random and its been 30 minutes already
[14:26] <EriC^^> then type exit and see if it boots first
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> PITBEAST: i think corrupted archives cant be repaired
[14:27] <bumbar> EriC^^: grub is not installed, and i can't install it :o
[14:27] <PITBEAST> @lotuspsychje okay, thanks. I just tried zip -FF command in console and it output "Missing end (EOCDR) signature..."
[14:28] <EriC^^> bumbar: ok, can you ping stuff properly? like ping google.com ?
[14:29] <bumbar> it says unknown host
[14:29] <EriC^^> bumbar: try ping 8.8.8.8
[14:29] <bumbar> but ifconfig shows eth0 has local ip
[14:29] <EriC^^> bumbar: oh ok
[14:29] <bumbar> yeah, pinging by ip works
[14:29] <starlighter> Anyone know how I can execute a bunch of export * statements from a file?
[14:30] <EriC^^> bumbar: type exit
[14:30] <EriC^^> bumbar: then type sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/resolv.conf
[14:30] <PITBEAST> lotuspsychje: okay, thanks. I just tried zip -FF command in console and it output "Missing end (EOCDR) signature..."
[14:30] <starlighter> I have a bunch of export A=B export C=D in a file but when I do ./laod-env.sh -- nothing gets defined
[14:30] <EriC^^> then type sudo chroot /mnt
[14:30] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:31] <bumbar> EriC^^: working now, updating and installing grub
[14:31] <EriC^^> bumbar: ok, grub2 right?
[14:31] <bumbar> yes :)
[14:32] <simonello> leave #ubuntu
[14:32] <EriC^^> bumbar: ok :)
[14:32] <[nitro]> lotuspsychje, i did command sudo apt-get purge nvidia* is this wrong did delete something that intel needs ?
[14:33] <bumbar> EriC^^: i've installed it and ran grub-install --recheck /dev/sda, no errors reported
[14:33] <EriC^^> bumbar: ok, type update-grub
[14:34] <[nitro]> i still gets in /etc/X11/ file xorg.conf on every reboot with some nvidia parameters thats problem
[14:34] <bumbar> EriC^^: a bunch of warnings, but says it found linux and initrd images
[14:36] <killall> Hello, i need some help, i have 2 usb devices purchased in diferent times and one works and the other does not work. Booth work in windows. SONiX USB Device in lsusb detects as 0c45:8419 Microdia
[14:36] <EriC^^> bumbar: ok, cool
[14:36] <EriC^^> bumbar: type exit then try restarting
[14:37] <bumbar> EriC^^: ok, see you on the other side, hopefully :P
[14:37] <simonello> HELP
[14:37] <EriC^^> :D
[14:37] <simonello> QUIT
[14:37] <simonello> leave #ubuntu
[14:38] <EriC^^> good old alt+f4 ^
[14:38] <journeyZc> hi
[14:38] <journeyZc> every one
[14:39] <journeyZc> what are you doing now?
[14:39] <Pici> I'm chatting in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:39] <cfhowlett> journeyZc, this ubuntu support. chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:40] <journeyZc> ok
[14:44] <killall> Hello, i need some help, i have 2 usb devices purchased in diferent times and one works and the other does not work. Booth work in windows. SONiX USB Device in lsusb detects as 0c45:8419 Microdia
[14:48] <nis> Hi, I recently upgraded my 14.04.2 to 14.04.3 and sysVinit script stopped executing during boot ... for example splunk and rc.local stopped executing, anything changed on 14.04.3 ?
[14:56] <mircx1> hello
[14:56] <mircx1> how is op in here?
[14:58] <freakyy> :D
[14:59] <SlothfulSlothMan> is it possible to upgrade without losing your files
[15:01] <wuu> SlothfulSlothMan: upgrade what ?
[15:01] <freakyy> SlothfulSlothMan: u can upgrade ubuntu without losing ur files. i dont think ull lose anything
[15:05] <SlothfulSlothMan> how would you do that freakyy
[15:06] <freakyy> SlothfulSlothMan: simply do an upgrade - ur home directory will stay its only the system thats updated
[15:06] <freakyy> using apt-get
[15:06] <freakyy> try googling ubuntu upgrade
[15:06] <SlothfulSlothMan> oh wow that's neat
[15:06] <wuu> SlothfulSlothMan: do you mean you want to change from 14.10 to 15.04
[15:06] <wuu> give us a little more information
[15:07] <wuu> or just have your applications up to date
[15:07] <nis> Hi, I recently upgraded my 14.04.2 to 14.04.3 and sysVinit script stopped executing during boot ... for example splunk and rc.local stopped executing, anything changed on 14.04.3 ?
[15:12] <NJR> Anyone here?
[15:14] <NJR> Anyone online here?
[15:14] <HackerII> please deposit $1 for the next 3 answers.
[15:15] <cfhowlett> NJR, you don't ask ubuntu questions, you get no answers ...
[15:15] <NJR> What!!
[15:16] <EriC^^> NJR: this is just a social experiment
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> NJR what brings you here
[15:16] <NJR> Is everyone here are newbie to ubuntu?
[15:16] <cfhowlett> NJR, no
[15:16] <NJR> I wanna asks a question. May I ask?
[15:16] <cfhowlett> !ask | NJR as we keep telling you ...
[15:17] <NJR> ask*
[15:17] <le_pig> ...lol
[15:17] <NJR> I am currently new to Ubuntu. And I want to contribute the Ubuntu Community. What should be my first step towards it(aiming to be a top contributor!)?
[15:17] <cfhowlett> !contribute | NJR
[15:18] <NJR> And I am also a participant of GCI
[15:20] <Xat`> hi guys
[15:20] <Xat`> I'm using 15.04 and I installed xen-hypervisor
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> Xat` is that a server? if yes, there's also #ubuntu-server
[15:21] <Xat`> I'm able to select the good one option at grub screen, but it crashes after "LOADING DOMAIN 0", then reboot
[15:21] <Xat`> yes
[15:21] <Xat`> ok
[15:25] <lancao> nihao
[15:25] <somsip> !zh | lancao
[15:26] <lancao> has joined #ubuntu
[15:27] <lancao> this is what
[15:27] <lancao> ??
[15:27] <Pici> lancao: This is the official support channel for Ubuntu Linux
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> lancao this is the ubuntu support channel
[15:28] <lancao> shenme
[15:28] <lancao> hello
[15:28] <lobo1952> hi
[15:29] <lancao> what?
[15:29] <lancao> ni hao
[15:33] <nbusrone> Anyone can tech me how to disable USB3.0 wakeup function ?
[15:35] <bumbar> EriC^^: hey, it worked, well it boots but after logging in i get immediatly logged out
[15:36] <vooze> Is anyone using intel rapid start + the partition for it? I got it working but sometimes the laptop will wake at random (probably intel rapid start wakes it, but does not shut down again) Did not happen before I testet intel rapid start.
[15:36] <EriC^^> bumbar: great
[15:37] <EriC^^> bumbar: does the guest account work?
[15:38] <bumbar> no
[15:40] <bumbar> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13477348/ i've deleted some of the old X config files, and tried reinstalling unity, compiz and flgrx
[15:40] <EriC^^> bumbar: try sudo ubuntu-drivers devices | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:42] <xela2244> hi, I'm using ubuntu gnome and when I go on settings I can't change mouse and touchpad speed
[15:42] <xela2244> option is blocked
[15:43] <bumbar> EriC^^: it returns nothing (i'm logged in through livecd, and mounted the disk)
[15:44] <EriC^^> bumbar: oh, type cat /mnt/var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:45] <bumbar> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/8oax
[15:46] <EriC^^> bumbar: try sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot
[15:47] <EriC^^> then for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[15:47] <bumbar> and then?
[15:47] <EriC^^> sudo chroot /mnt
[15:48] <bumbar> and then?
[15:49] <EriC^^> dpkg -l | grep "fglrx" | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:50] <bumbar> http://termbin.com/mg16
[15:51] <EriC^^> bumbar: try apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:52] <bumbar> i've tried that several times, with updating and normal upgrading, but they both report nothing to upgrade
[15:53] <EriC^^> bumbar: then apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-ati fglrx fglrx-core libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri
[15:55] <xela2244> Why ubuntu is not letting me change pointer speed from settings?
[15:56] <requiest> hi all
[15:56] <lkeijser> hi, is the output of 'ufw status' in the same order as iptables would parse them?
[15:58] <bumbar> EriC^^: it's done, should i reboot?
[15:58] <EriC^^> bumbar: yeah
[15:58] <EriC^^> type exit, then reboot
[16:02] <_ha> whois _ingo
[16:05] <ki7yy> when I run emerge - av ubuntu-software-center portage doesn't find it. Any help?
[16:06] <Seveas> ki7yy: try #gentoo :)
[16:06] <ki7yy> heh
[16:07] <Seveas> though I don't want to know what kind of frankensystem you have that has emerge and ubuntu-software-center. So I'm going to assume that that was a poor attempt at trolling, it's the saner alternative...
[16:08] <ki7yy> hey it is a fun way to say 'good day' and see if my friends are in.
[16:08] <ki7yy> Seveas: btw this is an iMac running osx so there is no help for me.
[16:09] <Seveas> ki7yy: no, you're very far beyond help I'm afraid. Please visit your local insane asylum :)
[16:10] <ki7yy> Seveas: I dwell there. Rather than suffer from insanity I rather enjoy it.
[16:10] <Seveas> ki7yy: you should join us in #ubuntu-offtopic, you'd fit right in (and that would leave #ubuntu for actual support questions)
[16:10] <ki7yy> ok works for me
[16:12] <sammy007> is it possible to make upstrat script depend on redis-server? start on started redis-server does not work for me
[16:12] <sammy007> 14.04
[16:15] <requiest> how to login without user name and password in terminal mode i am not using xwindows in ubuntu linux 15.04
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> requiest so no GUI?
[16:19] <sammy007> well, this channel does not make sense, it's polluted
[16:19] <jellybeam> does anyone know if systemd 228 will be available later for 15.10?
[16:19] <bumbar> EriC^^: didnt work
[16:22] <zteam> jellybeam, there seems to be a ppa for that if nothing else
[16:22] <zteam> jellybeam, https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/ubuntu/systemd
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> jellybeam but ppa's are not supported here
[16:23] <killall> Hello, i need some help, i have 2 usb devices purchased in diferent times and one works and the other does not work. Booth work in windows. SONiX USB Device in lsusb detects as 0c45:8419 Microdia
[16:23] <zteam> killall, have u tried to reformat it?
[16:24] <jellybeam> zteam: thanks for the link.
[16:24] <killall> zteam, yes :) it works on ubuntu 10.04 but not 14.04 :/ strange?
[16:26] <zteam> killall, that sounds very strange indeed, does both sticks show up correctly with lsusb?
[16:27] <requiest> how to login without user name and password in terminal mode i am not using xwindows in ubuntu linux 15.04
[16:27] <killall> zteam, booth shows nicely in lsusb
[16:28] <zteam> jellybeam, no problem, I don't know reliable the ppa is thought, and I highly recommends you to install ppa-purge before, you try it, if you decide to try it
[16:28] <requiest> hi all
[16:28] <requiest> how to login without user name and password in terminal mode i am not using xwindows in ubuntu linux 15.04
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> requiest you want to disable the password?
[16:29] <requiest> yes an automatic login
[16:30] <anheru> hey, i have problem with wifi on ubuntu, is there anybody who can help me with it?
[16:30] <SlidingHorn> !patience | requiest
[16:31] <zteam> killall, my guess is that Ubuntu 15.04 seems a damaged filesystem on this usb-stick which Ubuntu 10.04 does somehow miss, I do suggest you run a sudo fsck -a /dev/sdb1 on your usb stick and see if that solves the problem
[16:31] <killall> zteam, it is not a usb stick, its a touchscreen
[16:32] <killall> zteam, works on windows ubuntu 10.04, ubuntu 14.04
[16:32] <milad> quit
[16:32] <zteam> killall, a Wacom tablet or somwthing similair?
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> requiest is this useful http://askubuntu.com/questions/304964/disable-password-prompt-upon-startup-in-ubuntu-server
[16:37] <killall> zteam, wivitouch 19'' touch screen
[16:37] <killall> i have 50 of them (new batch) and does not work on 14.04 :( neither 15.04
[16:37] <killall> zteam, the old batch works all the way
[16:38] <requiest> exec /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty1 -a and user name this dint worked
[16:40] <zteam> killall, and the new ones work only with older Ubuntu versions such as Ubuntu 10.04?
[16:41] <killall> zteam, you got that right!
[16:41] <zteam> killall, If I were you I would search for wivitouch in Synaptic and see what shous up
[16:42] <bumbar_> EriC^^, ati drivers arent working. i've purged them and was able to login
[16:42] <zteam> killall, then compare that to the packages in your older Ubuntu install and see if you can find anything missing
[16:42] <killall> zteam, i guess it is the multitouch
[16:46] <zteam> killall, I have no idea really :-)
[16:46] <killall> zteam, thanks but nothing shows up on screen in synaptic or anywhere else
[16:49] <requiest> i am using ubuntu 15.04 desktop in tty mode no xwindows. from the local user profile using telneting to access Rehat linux server to login
[16:51] <sysfault> does ubuntu use binary packages? wanna do an install for an old laptop
[16:52] <akik> sysfault: yes, binary packages
[16:52] <zykotick9> sysfault: yes (it's NOT source based, few distros are...)
[16:53] <akik> maybe there was something in that question that i didn't get
[16:53] <sysfault> sweet should be great for my old lappy then
[16:53] <zykotick9> sysfault: you might want to check out lubuntu or xbuntu for an older system
[16:54] <Na3iL> Bilel_mk, What was your question?
[16:54] <Bilel_mk> hi every one ! can someone help me how can i see my battry level from terminal ??
[16:54] <zykotick9> Bilel_mk: "acpi"
[16:55] <zteam> killall, well, the only advice I can give you is to check the modelnumber on the tablet and google that
[16:55] <zteam> and Ubuntu
[16:56] <sysfault> zykotick9: sure thing
[16:56] <TJ-> Bilel_mk: "for N in /sys/class/power_supply/BAT*/*; do [ -f $N ] && echo $N = $(cat $N); done "
[16:56] <zteam> killall, then you probably can find out which drivers it is using
[16:57] <Bilel_mk> thank you ervery one acpi work
[16:57] <Bilel_mk> acpi
[16:57] <Bilel_mk> Battery 0: Discharging, 69%, 02:23:00 remaining
[16:59] <anheru> hey, i need help with wifi problem
[17:00] <anheru> there is anyone who can help me?
[17:00] <SlidingHorn> !ask
[17:01] <SlidingHorn> Just try to give as much info on one line as possible, and someone will eventually try to help if they can :)
[17:01] <Bilel_mk> hi every one ! can someone help me how can change background from terminal [i use awesome]??
[17:01] <zteam> killall, hmm, looks like I find something for you.... check if you have that package installed xserver-xorg-input-mutouch
[17:02] <zykotick9> Bilel_mk: one option, install feh, and run "feh --bg-tile /path/to/file &"
[17:02] <SlidingHorn> Bilel_mk, are you using "beautiful" for theming?
[17:02] <anheru> wow, just got kicked from here O_o
[17:03] <zykotick9> Bilel_mk: oh, that's using --bg-tile, but there is also --bg-fill and others...
[17:03] <killall> zteam, one sec :)
[17:03] <killall> i did not in the 14.04
[17:04] <anheru> ubuntu 14.04 lts, atheros qca9565, wifi connection lost all the time - anybody can help me with it?
[17:04] <ubuntu_beginner> hello
[17:05] <zteam> killall, other interesting packages seems to be xserver-xorg-input-mtrack xserver-xorg-input-multitouch
[17:06] <anheru> ubuntu 14.04 lts, atheros qca9565, wifi connection lost all the time - anybody can help me with it?
[17:07] <Bilel_mk> zykotick9 how i use it exactly ? i install feh
[17:07] <SlidingHorn> !wifi | anheru, have you been through these links yet?
[17:07] <zykotick9> Bilel_mk: and run "feh --bg-fill /path/to/file &"
[17:08] <zteam> But I think xserver-xorg-input-mutouch is what you are lacking, "This package provides the driver for Microtouch input devices with firmware
[17:08] <zteam> version 2", considering that lsusb shows your device as Microtouch I would defintetly try to install that package
[17:08] <jackhum> My Ubuntu running laptop is jumping to 80 degree Celsius with just 4 tabs on Firefox and music player
[17:08] <jackhum> This thing is freaking me out. Can anyone tell me what is the solution to problem
[17:09] <Bilel_mk> zykotick9 , thank you again it work perfectly !
[17:10] <zykotick9> Bilel_mk: note, in awesome - if you change themes it'll change the wallpaper (or if you restart awesome), so ideally you set you wallpaper with the theme's config files. /me doesn't use awesome anymore, but did ;)
[17:10] <Bilel_mk> okay
[17:10] <Guest29840> ola
[17:11] <killall> zteam, thanks installing themn :)
[17:11] <Guest29840> exit
[17:11] <zteam> killall, no problem, hopefully one of them should do the trick
[17:13] <freakyy> hi all. is there a way i can get different window icons for ubuntu? like the ones currently active are too small imo ... would like something bigger
[17:13] <darkhawk> Any Ideas -> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/275033
[17:13] <anheru> SlidingHorn yes i did, it didn't helped
[17:13] <freakyy> i mean the icons with which u close maximize etc. windows
[17:14] <SlidingHorn> anheru, so you're able to connect, but the connection is "spotty"?
[17:14] <anheru> SlidingHorn, yes
[17:14] <SlidingHorn> !theme | freakyy
[17:17] <zteam> freakyy, icons on your desktop can be changed just by rightclicking on them and drag the to your deisired size :-)
[17:17] <anheru> SlidingHorn any idea what to do?
[17:17] <freakyy> zteam: no i mean the icons u maximize close, minimize windows with
[17:17] <freakyy> those on the upper left side on windows
[17:18] <SlidingHorn> anheru, I'm pretty much a novice myself, but I'm googling like mad! :)
[17:18] <logglog> hello everyone
[17:19] <Bilel_mk> hi every one ! can someone help me how can i add to my desktop a wigdet [i use awesome]??
[17:20] <freakyy> i have another question. my terminal bell doesnt work with gnome-terminal ... is there any way i can get it working?
[17:20] <freakyy> it should make a sound on the normal pc speakdes whena terminal ('\a') is recieved
[17:20] <TJ-> anheru: check the interface's power-saving mode. some devices are very aggresive in switching to power-saving modes
[17:21] <anheru> TJ- it's turned off
[17:21] <anheru> here is the wireless-script test result with all informations: pastebin.ubuntu.com/13461918/
[17:22] <TJ-> anheru: check /var/log/syslog for indications of the link dropping, and if so, what the wpa_supplicant 'reason code' is
[17:22] <amnix> Hi. I am currently using ubuntu 14.04.03. Should I upgrade to the latest version, 15.10?
[17:22] <zykotick9> freakyy: wow, i'm at the opposite end - i go to the extent of blacklisting the required module, so i never hear the hardware-beep in a terminal /me had nothin' on why gnome-terminal beep isn't working though, good luck.
[17:23] <Bilel_mk> hi every one ! can someone help me how can i add to my desktop a wigdet [i use awesome environement]??
[17:23] <zykotick9> Bilel_mk: i'd suggest finding a channel for awesome... i doubt #ubuntu is the best place to be asking... good luck though.
[17:24] <freakyy> zykotick9: hehe ok ;D
[17:24] <TJ-> anheru: well, it looks pretty clear there. Your AP is on the same frequency as 2 others (2462MHz) and close to some other operating channels to, so I'd guess there's interference
[17:24] <Bilel_mk> zykotick9 , i am using ubuntu but i add to it awesmone environement
[17:24] <TJ-> anheru: try switching to use 802.11a (5.xGHz band) if at all possible
[17:24] <Bilel_mk> ?
[17:24] <freakyy> zykotick9: in the soundsettings u can disable notification sounds
[17:25] <zykotick9> Bilel_mk: asking here is fine... i just doubt there are many awesome users here... YMMV. good luck.
[17:25] <zteam> freakyy, did you check your sound settings?
[17:26] <anheru> TJ- ok brb need to relog to other pc so i can use ubuntu here
[17:26] <Bilel_mk> zykotick9 , ah okay thank you i interstand
[17:26] <TJ-> anheru: If the 9565 can't do 802.11a, then you're kinda stuck
[17:26] <freakyy> zteam: yes i checked them - its all enabled
[17:27] <SlidingHorn> Bilel_mk, FYI, their IRC channel is #awesome on the OFTC server :)
[17:27] <Bilel_mk> okay
[17:27] <TJ-> anheru: you could try forcing your AP to use channel 13, instead of 11, although there's still overlapt there it might be slightly better
[17:30] <zteam> freakyy, event sounds too?
[17:30] <TJ-> anheru: try the AP on channels 1 or 13, with 1 possibly - when the wireless info report was generate - being the better channel. You'll need to disable auto-channel selection so the AP doesn't hop channels, too
[17:32] <logglog> hey ppl is there a way i can test my microphone without downloading any software?
[17:33] <TJ-> logglog: 'alsaloop' tool from the alsa-utils package (if its installed)
[17:34] <SlidingHorn> logglog, System Settings > Hardware > Sound (or click the speaker icon on the menu bar) & select "Sound Settings", then the "Input" tab, select the device & make sure it's not muted. You should see an active input level as you use your mic
[17:34] <zteam> freakyy, as for your other question you can try to install gnome tweak tool from software center, it seems to able to change the min, max and restore buttons on the window title, but I'm not sure
[17:35] <nbusrone> hi , anyone know how do we check for which file having pending sector or badblock on a hard disk ?
[17:36] <Bilel_mk> hi every one ! can someone help me how can i change my keyboard input from qwerty to azerty from terminal ?
[17:36] <anheru> TJ- ok i switched off 'enable auto channel scan' and selected channel 13
[17:36] <nbusrone> Simples way to check for newbie ?
[17:37] <zteam> yes, that's very easy, just click on speaker icon besides your clock and go to sound settings -> input device -> record sound from and choose your device, if it register any sounds it should show up there
[17:37] <anheru> TJ- what now? btw i don't think it's AP problems cuz for example now ubuntu cant find any wireless networks...
[17:37] <TJ-> anheru: you're in a congested area, those other APs amy also change channels, so you'll need to keep a watch in it. The best channels, due to them not overlapping others, is 1, 6, 13, but you'll find most APs will choose those, or channels nearby
[17:37] <SlidingHorn> Bilel_mk, this should work: http://askubuntu.com/questions/550937/change-from-qwerty-to-azerty-in-command-line
[17:37] <TJ-> anheru: what country are you in?
[17:38] <anheru> TJ- gb
[17:39] <TJ-> anheru: the region makes a difference. In Europe we have 13 channels... and the AP and the PC should figure out the correct region and set limits accordingly. If your PC is not seeing the AP on channel 13, that suggests the PC has the wrong region set. Try "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan" and see if your AP shows up
[17:39] <anheru> TJ- after switch off & switch on whole wireless 3 times, it found networks, but still cannot connect
[17:40] <TJ-> anheru: your log shows the PC knows it is in the GB Europe region "ath: Country alpha2 being used: GB"
[17:40] <logglog> SlidingHorn: TJ-: thank you, worked well :)
[17:40] <SlidingHorn> logglog, happy to help
[17:41] <xlstefan> hello
[17:41] <Bilel_mk> SlidingHorn , thank you
[17:41] <TJ-> anheru: "tail -f /var/log/syslog" and do you see attempts to connect to the AP?
[17:41] <anheru> TJ- for example now i trying to connect and it shows password window over and over again...
[17:42] <MWM> anybody home? Im using a tutorial for an old version and I think the locations of certain directories have changed
[17:42] <TJ-> anheru: try changing the AP's channel to 1, let's find out if that is caused by using channel 13, or something entirely different
[17:42] <anheru> TJ- yes
[17:42] <nbusrone> Simples way to check for newbie ?
[17:43] <SlidingHorn> MWM, what are you trying to do? What version & flavor of *buntu are you using, etc.?
[17:43] <nbusrone> how to copy a bad sector block on a hard disk ignoring them ?
[17:43] <MWM> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022411 Im trying stop 3 but these directoreis seem not to exist or to have moved.
[17:44] <MWM> Im currently on 14.04.3 x64 desktop version
[17:44] <zteam> nbusrone, Yes, there is a very easy to use tool for, built in to ubuntu
[17:45] <vooze> Anyone running ubuntu 14.04 + using google chrome? Can you get the icon to show up in the top bar? I have tried disabling/enabling various things. Nothing works :/
[17:45] <anheru> TJ- so i changed channel to 1, turned off wireless in ubuntu, turned on, and there is no networks found again, empty list
[17:45] <nbusrone> zteam : which tools for it ? I downloaded GsmartControl mention I had 1 pending sector that had grow to 85 right now
[17:45] <Jesterboxboy> I somehow fucked up up my graphics setting on my ubuntu with an nvidia driver install
[17:45] <zetheroo> might be an odd question - but when both wifi and ethernet are connected in Ubuntu which connection is used?
[17:45] <TJ-> anheru: that is very strange behavior. Do you have a wifi enabled phone that can see the AP?
[17:45] <zteam> nbusrone, just search for disc in unitys searchbar and it will get you right to the disc manager from there you can easy check ytour hard drive
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> Jesterboxboy avoi the f-word
[17:45] <Jesterboxboy> i remove purged all nvidia-* packages and moved the xorg.conf to somewhere else, but i still cant see unity when i start up
[17:46] <Jesterboxboy> @MonkeyDust sry my fault
[17:46] <MWM> @jesterboxboy , can you get CLI with ctl + alt f1?
[17:46] <anheru> TJ- this log command you gave me shows "<info> (wlan0): supplicant interface state: disconnected -> inactive"
[17:47] <nbusrone> zteam : which tools and how do I do it ?
[17:47] <SlidingHorn> vooze, are you talking about the top panel (i.e. where the clock, network status icon, etc. are?)
[17:47] <anheru> TJ- i have wifi enabled on other pc (im using now to speak to u) and it work great
[17:47] <mo> hi folks
[17:47] <anheru> TJ- on phones it work good as well
[17:48] <Guest90945> i am running gnome3 .. just installed it .. how can I make the dot become visible not only in the "hud"
[17:48] <anheru> TJ- only ubuntu have problems with it
[17:48] <Guest90945> i mean dash
[17:48] <zteam> search for disc in Unity and you will see dicc manager, from there you just select your harddrive and go the chuggwheel and select self-test
[17:48] <freakyy> zteam: ok thanks :D
[17:49] <MWM> Im trying to remove NIC drivers using http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022411 tutorial, but the files seem to have moved or changed locations for 14.04, anyone know the correct paths?
[17:49] <craig> #quit
[17:50] <vooze> SlidingHorn: yes, do you have a google chrome there in there?
[17:50] <vooze> icon *
[17:50] <zteam> nbusrone, it seems to be called Disk Utilty in english
[17:50] <zteam> nbusrone, https://www.google.se/search?q=ubuntu+disc+manager&client=ubuntu&hs=UNx&channel=fs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJoom4jafJAhVJCSwKHViQBi8Q_AUIBygB&biw=1855&bih=953#imgrc=JVk3HUcTYrY24M%3A
[17:51] <tokam> After updating to Ubuntu 15.10 I can not start lightdm anymore. Do you have any suggestions? http://pastebin.info/?paste=2672
[17:51] <Jesterboxboy> @MWM yes
[17:51] <SlidingHorn> vooze, well, I'm not running with the default DE, but I'll try to help if I can anyway. Are you trying to create a launcher that opens chrome when you click this icon?
[17:51] <Jesterboxboy> @MWM i just have no real clue what do to, is there some way to set back xorg, or the drivers to default?
[17:52] <MWM> @jesterboxboy try logging in and then startx. should get you to the GUI. I really cant tell you what to do to permanently fix though. atleast you have CLI now
[17:52] <nbusrone> zteam : i know what it calls but how do I determine which files is in a bad sector ?
[17:52] <zteam> tokam, sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm, is the first thing I would try anyway (aside from restarting the computer that is)
[17:52] <tokam> zteam: already tried both
[17:52] <tokam> root@localhost:~# cat /var/log/lightdm/x-0-greeter.log
[17:52] <vooze> SlidingHorn: cool :) but no, i'm not. By default google chrome should have an icon there, because it stays running when it close it, unless you unselect Continue running background apps when Google Chrome is closed
[17:52] <tokam> Error writing X authority: Failed to open X authority /var/lib/lightdm/.Xauthority: No such file or directory
[17:53] <vooze> SlidingHorn: just asking if its just me, or if it happens to other people also.
[17:53] <MWM> @jesterboxboy try apt-get xorg? maybe remove xorg from whereever you moved it to first? just gussing man
[17:53] <resolution> Hey, I have a question: Is it possible to redirect messages from any linux communicator to terminal ?
[17:54] <Jesterboxboy> @MWM mhm nope thats not working, i see the loginscreen when starting up normally and can login, then i get my backgroundimage , but no unity dash, or system bar or anything. the windows that pop up are without borders
[17:54] <maslo> is there any way to find out why my ssh-rsa key is not working? I used puttygen and loaded my old private key to generate the public key, removed the first 2 line and alst line, added ssh-rsa before the one-lined key, modified sshd_config to use .ssh/authorized_key but still I get server refused key
[17:54] <SchrodingersScat> resolution: communicator as in?
[17:55] <resolution> for example. But empathy would be ideal.
[17:55] <zteam> nbusrone, which file? I don't know any tool for that, you should try run a fsck on the disk that should mark the sectors as dirty and move the files to healty sectors automatically
[17:55] <akik> maslo: you can save the private key in openssh.com format from the top menu, no need to edit it
[17:55] <maslo> private key isn'T the issue, the public one is
[17:55] <anheru> TJ-, syslog "kernel: [ 1404.228328] wlan0: deauthenticated from e8:cc:18:0f:48:78 (Reason: 15=4WAY_HANDSHAKE_TIMEOUT)
[17:55] <maslo> I am using my old private key from before i upgraded my ubuntu from 12.04 to 14.04
[17:56] <maslo> and i tried using the same .ssh/authorized_key file onn the 14.04 fresh install andn it doenst work
[17:56] <akik> maslo: the public key is in the text box, no need to edit it either
[17:56] <SchrodingersScat> !info finch | resolution, there's finch, also something called bitlbee for moving other chat protocols to irc clients
[17:56] <maslo> let me retry akik...
[17:56] <zteam> nbusrone, As a harddrive detects bad sectors, it try to reallocate those sectors into healthy ones, thus moving the files automatically
[17:56] <tokam> *reboot
[17:56] <zteam> nbusrone, if it can
[17:57] <parapan> Hi ppl; strange situation . ..I copy a file via scp to ubuntu 14.04 but I used a wrong syntax "\" instead of "/" now I have some files of 300 MB in that folder that I cannot delete using rm command ... .. any hints ?
[17:57] <MWM> anyone?
[17:57] <maslo> you rock akik, I don't know why I didn'T even think about that...I would export the file and edit it
[17:57] <maslo> it fixed it
[17:59] <nbusrone> zteam : Sorry , I still dont understand .If the file is unreadable , how it get move into a healthy sector ?
[17:59] <resolution> SchrodingerScat - thanks.
[17:59] <MWM> sudo make install
[17:59] <resolution> i'll try it
[17:59] <MWM> whoops. wrong keyboard ;)
[18:00] <Paul-Z> Mmm... I try to install portaudio19-dev via aptitude, but...
[18:00] <ux2> This may be off but anyone here know where I can get any user or help for India ?
[18:00] <zteam> parapan, it probably created some maps there instead of files, if those are empty just remove them with rmdir or you can try to remove the files rm -f (which means force, but use that with caution
[18:01] <Paul-Z> but, I have to remove jackd and jackd2????
[18:01] <SlidingHorn> !in | ux2
[18:03] <zteam> nbusrone, well, sectors most often becomes hard read before they get impossible to read (it takes more and more read attempts), as your drive detects that a sector is hard to read it, will try to move the content into a new sector
[18:03] <ux2> Hey
[18:03] <MWM> still trying to figure out where these directories from 8.10 have been moved to in 14.04 if anyone in here knows
[18:03] <ux2> anyone got my q ?
[18:04] <zteam> nbusrone, with that said, if the diagnostik tool you run said your harddrive is dying you should hurry to back it up) as the drive doesn't have indefinity spare sectors
[18:05] <ux2> where can I get help from Indian user and to get Indian languages?
[18:05] <Paul-Z> ux2, #ubuntu-in ?
[18:05] <trism> Paul-Z: what is: apt-cache policy jackd jackd2 libjack-dev libjack-jack2-dev; (in a pastebin)
[18:06] <ux2> no one there Paul
[18:06] <nbusrone> zteam : Disk utility said ok , 90 bad sector
[18:06] <ux2> any Indians here?
[18:07] <zteam> nbusrone, as your bad sector numbers seems to grow I would recommend you to try a full selftest from disk utilty and see what it says
[18:08] <nbusrone> zteam : Do I need to backup first before doing the selftest ?
[18:08] <nbusrone> zteam : what tools to copy file and ignore bad sector files and display which files are hard to read and skipped it after 1 or 2 retry ?
[18:10] <zteam> nbusrone, well, you can do it if you want to, but I don't think it is neccesary
[18:10] <tokam> After the upgrade to Ubuntu 15.10 the folder for lightdm did not exist so lightdm could not start post booting
[18:10] <MWM> Im trying to get NIC drivers working on a fresh install. Would anyone be able to help?
[18:12] <nbusrone> zteam : any reason ? what happen when it got freeze on diagnostik tool and bad sector increase rapidly ?
[18:12] <nbusrone> zteam : as above which tools to copy file and ignore bad sector files and display which files are hard to read and skipped it after 1 or 2 retry ?
[18:13] <zteam> nbusrone, well it depends on how you need to copy
[18:14] <Paul-Z> trism, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13478669/
[18:15] <Paul-Z> trism, I don't want to remove jackd and jackd2.
[18:16] <Paul-Z> trism, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13478687/
[18:16] <nbusrone> zteam : sorry , I still dont understand , which program does that ?
[18:20] <MWM> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022411 this tutorial gets the NIC working, but wont survive a reboot then needs to be done again. I assume because the directories/files have been moved between 8.10 and 14.04
[18:20] <zteam> nbusrone, there are 2 tools for recovering files from bad sectors as I know about, first there is Recoverdm (terminal software) https://www.vanheusden.com/recoverdm/ and then there is Roadkils Unstoppable Copier (which has a grahpical interface) http://www.roadkil.net/program.php/P29/Unstoppable%20Copier
[18:20] <krzesik> helo
[18:20] <anheru> i need command to allow rsyslog proces write in syslog :)
[18:20] <v2zz> can anybody advice a good serial monitor, moserial doesn't show ascii and triples messages that i get back
[18:21] <zteam> nbusrone, lastly there is gddrescue, but that mirrors the whole partion
[18:22] <nbusrone> zteam : anyhow , how do I count bad sector convert to file size ? lets say 1 sector = how many kb or mb ?
[18:22] <trism> Paul-Z: sorry I wrote one of the package names wrong, it is: libjack-jackd2-dev
[18:23] <arb> can any one tell the command to mount an iso file at startup
[18:25] <trism> Paul-Z: I don't think that's the problem though, it seems to want to have libjack0 installed but that conflicts with jackd2. if you try to remove libjack0 what does it try to remove?
[18:25] <daftykins> arb: why would you?
[18:26] <arb> I'm using an iso as a local repo
[18:26] <nectar> I've created a desktop entry for, but I don’t know how to add to add an icon to it?
[18:26] <luke_> no
[18:27] <akik> v2zz: have you tried minicom? if that is what you mean by serial monitor
[18:27] <v2zz> not yet
[18:28] <nectar> and i cant find the folder "~/.icons" anywhere.
[18:28] <nbusrone> zteam : I think I know a better way to check which file are corrupted and unreadable. Copy file by files.USe beyond compare and list every folder . If it can't read it means corrupted right ?
[18:29] <Paul-Z> trism, Mmm... but, how to remove libjack0?
[18:29] <rouge_> Hello
[18:30] <trism> Paul-Z: sudo apt-get remove libjack0; see what packages it wants to remove (pastebin it maybe), if it only wants to remove that one package then you can probably just remove it
[18:31] <rouge_> I git (I think) a QT bug with ffado-mixer (and mayby qjackctl) : sometimes way I do a "drag and drop" gesture in the middle of a window : the mouse got stalled
[18:31] <nbusrone> zteam : thanks , I'll do it tomorrow :)
[18:31] <rouge_> mh.
[18:31] <nbusrone> zteam : thanks for the help
[18:31] <Paul-Z> trism, but... I have not install libjack0.
[18:31] <rouge_> actually everything works, but the controls. I can move the mouse but it's stuck with the "closed hand pointer" and can't click
[18:32] <rouge_> keyboard works to change workspace but not to access apps functions
[18:32] <Jesterboxboy> i have a problem with my ubuntu install(since 14.10) when i start i get into the lgm login mask, then i log in and get my background image but unity does not load.
[18:32] <Jesterboxboy> when i switch to console, i can start it manually with unity though. In the syslog i found this and error unity-settings-daemon)WARNING Attempted to init Xsync, found version 3.1 error base 134 event base 83
[18:32] <zteam> nbusrone, the way I would do it is by using fsck /dev/sda1 -V (assuming sda1 is the faulty disk)
[18:33] <daftykins> *partition
[18:33] <trism> Paul-Z: the aptitude command seems to think it either is or needs to be
[18:33] <Paul-Z> trism, in fact, I want to install PyAudio, but I got errors, and I searched on web, they said, I should install portaudio19-dev.....
[18:33] <zteam> nbusrone, I belive it should tell you how many megabytes is corrupted
[18:33] <arb> mounting an iso in bootup ??
[18:33] <comep21> hey
[18:33] <zteam> daftykins, right partion, not the drive
[18:34] <zteam> daftykins, thanks for correction daftykins :-)
[18:34] * daftykins tips hat
[18:34] <Paul-Z> trism, so, I should try to use apt-get installing portaudio19-dev?
[18:35] <daftykins> arb: ISO for repos, so you'll remain permanently out of date? 0o
[18:35] <nbusrone> zteam : ok , thanks , now it goes to 90 , I count 1 sector = 512 bytes and 90 sector = 512x90 / 2 =23mb ?
[18:35] <trism> Paul-Z: alright, instead pastebin the output of this command: sudo apt-get install -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes portaudio19-dev; (it's going to be alot of output)
[18:36] <arb> daftykins: Nop
[18:36] <zteam> arb, there is package called grub-imageboot which should allow you to boot isos directly from grub, but I don't know how to use it, sudo apt-get install grub-imageboot should be a good start I guess... :-)
[18:37] <s0k_iT> im new to linux a good a python/text editor I can install
[18:37] <s0k_iT> bah meant to say whats a good text editor
[18:38] <zteam> nbusrone, I belived it does print the the info in Megabytes, then fsck is finsihed (at least checkdisk on windows does, so I guess fsck should do it too)
[18:38] <arb> zteam: 10x alot
[18:39] <zteam> arb, no problem :-)
[18:39] <ioria> s0k_iT, geany is a simple editor that lets you write/compile/execute c, c++, java, bash, python
[18:39] <s0k_iT> tanks
[18:40] <zteam> s0k_iT, while I haven't programmed in years myself I think anjuta should be quite nice for python :-)
[18:41] <agent_white> Kinda funny how it says it's a "text editor" when it compiles/executes code. :P
[18:41] <agent_white> Mini-IDE!
[18:41] <Paul-Z> trism, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13478960/
[18:41] <Paul-Z> trism, yes, a lot of.... ;)
[18:43] <guruprasad> I installed Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 on my desktop with Asus Z170-K motherboard and legacy mode enabled. The drive is formatted with GPT and already has Windows on it.
[18:43] <guruprasad> When I booted after installation it went straight to Windows 10. But manually opening the boot menu and selecting the hard drive as the boot device instead of the Windows boot manager boots into Ubuntu
[18:44] <trism> Paul-Z: actually it wasn't very much, it is usually 4x that
[18:44] <guruprasad> How can I get GRUB to show up on boot so that I can pick Windows or Ubuntu?
[18:44] <guruprasad> I had created a grub partition during installation but it didn't seem to help
[18:45] <trism> Paul-Z: something has to be wrong with libjack-jackd2-0, what is: apt-cache policy libjack-jackd2-0;
[18:46] <Paul-Z> trism, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13479015/
[18:47] <daftykins> guruprasad: change the default timeout period - can you get to it manually with pressing escape or holding left shift?
[18:47] <daftykins> guruprasad: it's sounding like a case of installing Ubuntu as EFI beside a legacy Windows to me
[18:47] <trism> Paul-Z: hmm that looks fine
[18:48] <guruprasad> daftykins: When the PC boots, it boots into Windows without showing grub
[18:48] <MWM> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows may help with the grub question. It worked for me a while back. Im not exactly sure if it applies here though
[18:48] <requiest> i am using ubuntu 15.04 desktop in tty mode no xwindows. from the local user .profile using telneting to access Rehat linux server to login.so would like to bypass user name and password on exit from the server local system should ask the user to restart or shutdown anybody is ther to help
[18:48] <daftykins> guruprasad: what are you typing from right now?
[18:48] <harsha> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:48] <harsha> @guruprasad
[18:48] <harsha> install in a LiveCD, run it on auto.
[18:48] <harsha> It will take care of you.
[18:49] <daftykins> that's not wise until more details are gathered
[18:49] <SlidingHorn> requiest, I'm not sure I understand: you want to be able to remotely shut down the RH machine without being prompted for a password?
[18:49] <guruprasad_> daftykins: I am sure Ubuntu booted in the legacy mode since booting with the uefi mode dropped me to grub shell
[18:49] <harsha> It removes grub and its config, scans the partitions, and redoes the entire thing. Not sure why you wouldn't just use it.
[18:49] <harsha> oh.
[18:49] <guruprasad_> daftykins: that was during the installation
[18:49] <harsha> apologies, I didn't realize you were dealing with uefi mode
[18:50] <daftykins> guruprasad_: ok, so you had the old style purple backed boot menu etc?
[18:50] <ux2> guruprasad:hello
[18:50] <guruprasad_> daftykins: yes
[18:50] <daftykins> harsha: well, just checking first
[18:50] <Paul-Z> trism, aww... so... It seem that I have to remove jackd, jackd2, qjackctl etc........
[18:50] <daftykins> guruprasad_: and which Windows is it?
[18:50] <requiest> no not rh server in local system i installed ununtu 15.04
[18:50] <guruprasad_> Actually since it was Ubuntu GNOME, it showed a grey grub kind of menu briefly before booting into Ubuntu GNOME
[18:51] <guruprasad_> daftykins: 10 :-(
[18:51] <guruprasad_> ux2: hello
[18:51] <trism> Paul-Z: no it doesn't make any sense though, try instead: sudo apt-get install libjack-jackd2-dev; to see what happens
[18:51] <daftykins> guruprasad_: nothing wrong with that. so that was definitely installed legacy? are you in 10 now or an ubuntu live session?
[18:51] <requiest> server side redhat linux
[18:51] <guruprasad_> Ubuntu GNOME after manually selecting the hard drive as the boot device
[18:52] <guruprasad_> By default it looks like it take a Windows boot manager partition as boot device.
[18:52] <requiest> client system are ubuntu 15.04
[18:52] <guruprasad_> and it is a UEFI partition
[18:52] <guruprasad_> So I am not sure what is wrong and what to do
[18:52] <guruprasad_> I don
[18:52] <daftykins> answering my questions would be a great start
[18:53] <guruprasad_> I don't want to boot into Ubuntu by manually selecting the boot device each time.
[18:53] <MAxou> Hi I want install ubuntu on this computer http://www.pcworld.com/product/30456/dell-optiplex-755.html whiche version should i install ? Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS or Ubuntu 15.10 ??
[18:53] <MWM> Busybox v1.21.1 Enter help for a list of built in commands. Ugg
[18:53] <Paul-Z> trism, oh! I just have installed libjack-jackd2-dev.
[18:53] <guruprasad_> daftykins: I've answered whatever you had asked. In case you have more, please ask them so that I can answer :)
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> MAxou: depends what you want really
[18:53] <daftykins> guruprasad_: you haven't told me what you're booted into right now which i have asked twice.
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> guruprasad_: you didnt, scroll up
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> MAxou: do you need long time support?
[18:54] <guruprasad_> Ubuntu GNOME by manually selecting the boot device as my hard disk
[18:55] <guruprasad_> daftykins: Installed Ubuntu GNOME after manually selecting the hard drive as the boot device
[18:55] <daftykins> i'm asking what you're typing from... which OS are you booted into - x3 now.
[18:55] <guruprasad_> I have answered you. Don't know if you are not getting my ping
[18:55] <guruprasad_> :(
[18:55] <Paul-Z> trism, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13479091/
[18:55] <auronandace> he has answered that more than once, he is typing from his installed ubuntu
[18:55] <MAxou> lotuspsychje : I want that work fine
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> MAxou: LTS is in most cases a good choice
[18:56] <daftykins> guruprasad_: here's a clue: "i am typing from my ubuntu gnome install" or "i'm typing from my win10 install"
[18:56] <daftykins> you have not hinted at either
[18:56] <trism> Paul-Z: try installing portaudio19-dev again
[18:57] <guruprasad_> daftykins: I am typing from the installed Ubuntu GNOME which I booted by manually selecting my hard disk as boot device
[18:57] <Octubre2> how can i know which is my gnome version??
[18:57] <Octubre2> using Ubuntu 15.10
[18:57] <guruprasad_> actually it could be the root partition and not the hard disk. Not very sure
[18:57] <Paul-Z> trism, OH!!! Thank you indeed! you are brilliant! haha
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> Octubre2: did you install ubuntu-gnome?
[18:58] <requiest> exec /sbin/getty -8 38400 tyy1 pc-1 but no result
[18:58] <daftykins> guruprasad_: yay, ok so run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" and share the link here
[18:58] <Octubre2> nope lotuspsychje , i'm on unity, but it use gnome too, not?
[18:58] <SlidingHorn> Octubre2, gnome-shell --version
[18:59] <Octubre2> SlidingHorn, nope, it doesn't exist
[18:59] <Octubre2> on my ubuntu
[18:59] <Octubre2> i have not gnome-shell
[18:59] <kooper> how i use torrent
[18:59] <kooper> ?
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> kooper: qbittorrent is nice
[18:59] <trism> Paul-Z: excellent, it seems it was confused out to resolve the virtual libjack-dev package, because there is also a real one that depends on libjack0 which wants to remove all the jackd2 stuff
[19:00] <Octubre2> Transmission is installed on ubuntu for default
[19:00] <kooper> gui
[19:00] <SlidingHorn> kooper, Transmission is a GUI bittorrent client that is installed by default
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> !torrent | kooper
[19:00] <Octubre2> you just have to download the torrent and the selected program for default will be transmission in ubuntu
[19:01] <guruprasad_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13479154/
[19:01] <kooper> oh actually i am new
[19:01] <kooper> thnx everyone
[19:02] <Octubre2> kooper, you can download torrents in thepiratebay and such
[19:02] <daftykins> guruprasad_: so your windows install was EFI by the looks, and so with a legacy install of ubuntu that's not going to work
[19:02] <daftykins> !efi | guruprasad_ read here and convert your install to EFI from legacy
[19:02] <daftykins> guruprasad_: until you rework the above, you won't be able to have both load from the same bootloader
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> Octubre2: apt-cache policy gnome-panel (used on unity)
[19:03] <msev-> does anyone know what the url for the tile server for google maps satellite image (so i could use it for foxtrotgps), or for bing aerial maps?
[19:03] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: need some help?
[19:03] <guruprasad_> daftykins: legacy compatibility mode is enabled in the BIOS. When I tried to boot from USB to install Ubuntu, there were 2 devices shown - one with UEFI and other without. The one with UEFI didn't boot and dropped me to grub2 shell.
[19:03] <dym> Hey! Im on ubuntu running nginx + php-fpm, experiencing " accept4() failed (24: Too many open files)" which is odd, since the filelimit has already been raised. ideas?
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> msev-: is this ubuntu related mate?
[19:03] <guruprasad_> daftkins, So I installed by booting from the other device which booted
[19:03] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: why is legacy compatibility mode enabled in the bios?
[19:03] <daftykins> guruprasad_: yes that's the problem, you can't have one OS installed in one mode and the other in another... they must be the *SAME*
[19:04] <Octubre2> lotuspsychje, it don't returns nothing
[19:04] <SlidingHorn> Octubre2, another possible answer is to look at /usr/share/gnome/gnome-version.xml (or /usr/share/ghome-about/gnome-version.xml if you're running gnome 2)
[19:04] <Octubre2> i'm using ubuntu 15.10 with unity
[19:04] <freakyy> hi all. is there a way to bind the extra mouse buttons of the logitech mx master to keys like next/prev link in browser, and desktop switcher?
[19:04] <Octubre2> but i think is using gnome too
[19:04] <Paul-Z> trism, Mmm... I'm trying to undersdand what you said... because, I'm a absolute user.... I mean I'm not a developer, without any programming background....
[19:05] <agent_white> dym: `lsof` and check to see what all the files are that are opened... Do they all need to be opened? Or why haven't they been sent-out and closed?
[19:05] <guruprasad_> EriC^^: That was the default and I didn't set it so
[19:05] <Octubre2> okey SlidingHorn i think i have 3.16.2
[19:05] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: you have win8 installed?
[19:05] <guruprasad_> EriC^^: Win10
[19:05] <SlidingHorn> cool, hope that helped, Octubre2 :)
[19:05] <EriC^^> ok, are you in ubuntu right now guruprasad_ ?
[19:05] <trism> Paul-Z: it's okay it's not really important, basically apt had a choice of 2 packages to install with the same name it and it kept picking the wrong one
[19:05] <agent_white> dym: Otherwise, you can increase the limit of open file descriptors at the OS level.
[19:06] <requiest> daftykins no not rh server in local system i installed ununtu 15.04
[19:06] <Octubre2> yes SlidingHorn thanks, but i don't understand why was so difficult to know it :S
[19:06] <trism> Paul-Z: but you manually installed the right one so it fixed it
[19:06] <requiest> daftykins client system are ubuntu 15.04
[19:06] <dym> agent_white: odd. A lot of socket files
[19:06] <SlidingHorn> Octubre2, here's a little explanation (in the answer's comments) http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/73212/how-to-get-the-gnome-version
[19:06] <daftykins> requiest: i have at no point been speaking to you :)
[19:07] <requiest> i am using ubuntu 15.04 desktop in tty mode no xwindows. from the local user .profile using telneting to access Rehat linux server to login.so would like to bypass user name and password on exit from the server local system should ask the user to restart or shutdown anybody is ther to help
[19:07] <guruprasad_> EriC^^: Yes, in the installed Ubuntu GNOME
[19:07] <daftykins> EriC^^: i think converting the ubuntu to EFI would work... but it doesn't sound like i got my advice across
[19:08] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:08] <guruprasad_> daftykins: I get this error from the boot-repair tool. Not sure what to do since the ubuntu installation usb didn't boot in UEFI mode
[19:08] <ux2> guruprasad_: pranam
[19:08] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: paste the link it gives you here
[19:08] <SlidingHorn> I think there may be a language barrier preventing some of us from properly understanding your request, requiest. What is your native language? Maybe there's a local Channel where your request might not be lost in translation?
[19:08] <guruprasad_> EriC^^: Which link?
[19:08] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: the link the command gives
[19:08] <EriC^^> daftykins: yeah
[19:08] <Paul-Z> trism, Mmm... Yes, anyway, Thank you!
[19:08] <daftykins> guruprasad_: i did not tell you to run that; i said follow the section of the guide linked for how to convert your ubuntu installation to EFI :)
[19:09] <guruprasad_> daftykins: I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Converting_Ubuntu_into_UEFI_mode which exactly does what you wanted me to try :)
[19:09] <guruprasad_> it suggested installing and using the boot-repair tool to do the conversion
[19:10] <daftykins> ok, so what error?
[19:10] <guruprasad_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13479207/
[19:11] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: did you just paste the boot-repair message?
[19:12] <guruprasad_> EriC^^: Yes
[19:12] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:12] <daftykins> EriC^^: we have that - http://paste.ubuntu.com/13479154/
[19:13] <EriC^^> daftykins: ty
[19:13] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: type sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt
[19:13] <guruprasad_> EriC^^: mounted
[19:14] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: type sudo blkid /dev/sda2
[19:14] <EriC^^> then type sudo nano /mnt/etc/fstab
[19:14] <EriC^^> add an entry that says UUID=<uuid from blkid output> /boot/efi vfat defaults 0 1
[19:15] <guruprasad_> EriC^^: Done
[19:15] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: ok, type sudo mkdir /mnt/boot/efi
[19:16] <Guest90945> in gnome3 the window key + arrow up down right .. seems reserved? i can't find any place to disable the move window in order to use those keys for other stuff... anyone?
[19:16] <guruprasad_> EriC^^: done
[19:16] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot/efi
[19:16] <guruprasad_> EriC^^: done, mounted
[19:16] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[19:17] <MWM> I need to read the smart data from a live disk. What is the utility
[19:17] <guruprasad_> done
[19:17] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: ok, now we need to load the efivars module i think
[19:18] <guruprasad_> EriC^^: How do I do that?
[19:18] <EriC^^> cause grub needs to use the efivars, and usually they're just there when you boot in uefi mode
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> !info smartmontools | MWM perhaps?
[19:18] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: try sudo modprobe efivars
[19:19] <guruprasad_> EriC^^: it ran without any message or error
[19:19] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: cool
[19:19] <guruprasad_> EriC^^: lsmod doesn't show it
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> ioria: add to discuss :p
[19:19] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: hmm type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi do you see anything there?
[19:19] <guruprasad_> EriC^^:
[19:19] <guruprasad_> no efi directory in /sys/firmware
[19:20] <ioria> ok
[19:20] <EriC^^> ok, we'll get to it in a bit i guess
[19:20] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: type sudo chroot /mnt
[19:20] <requiest> anybody is ther to help on linux server and ubuntu 15.04 client configuration
[19:20] <guruprasad_> EriC^^: done
[19:20] <lotuspsychje> requiest: #ubuntu-server
[19:20] <MWM> Is there a built in utility for ubuntu to read SMART data? Ive got no connection right now
[19:21] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: type apt-get install grub-efi-amd64-signed
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> MWM: disktool in ubuntu test your smart
[19:21] <requiest> not ubuntu server
[19:21] <guruprasad_> EriC^^: "Can't access efivars filesystem at /sys/firmware/efi/efivars, aborting"
[19:21] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: if it only fails at the efibootmgr adding part, we can do a workaround just so it boots the next time around and then undo it
[19:21] <MWM> trying disktool. thanks you
[19:22] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: hmm, did it install the efi files? check ls -l /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu
[19:22] <requiest> it is connectvity between linux cleint and server
[19:22] <lotuspsychje> requiest: they might have experience also in other server issues
[19:22] <lotuspsychje> requiest: or the ##networking guys= connectivity
[19:22] <guruprasad_> EriC^^: No ubuntu in /boot/efi/EFI. Only Microsoft and Boot
[19:23] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: try modprobe efivars again
[19:24] <requiest> ok it is related to local system aslo auto loing to user without giving user name and password
[19:24] <guruprasad_> EriC^^: No error but not listed in lsmod. Since this is a new install, I don't mind reinstalling it. So can I disable legacy mode and then try to boot from the UEFI installer?
[19:24] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: yeah sure
[19:24] <MWM> "disktool" doesnt show but there is a "disk" which says : Disk is OK, one bad sector <-- this is the SMART data?
[19:25] <guruprasad_> EriC^^: But what to do if it drops to grub2 shell like it does now?
[19:25] <EriC^^> does it say anything before or just grub> ?
[19:25] <guruprasad_> With legacy mode it just drops to the grub2 shell, no errors
[19:26] <guruprasad_> EriC^^: ^^
[19:26] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: if you get a grub shell you can boot the current install from it
[19:26] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: when you boot in uefi mode what happens?
[19:26] <guruprasad_> EriC^^: When I tried booting from live usb, it displayed 2 boot devices for the same USB drive - one prefixed with UEFI. Selecting the UEFI version dropped me to grub2 shell.
[19:27] <guruprasad_> The other version booted into Ubuntu installer just fine.
[19:27] <abrakam> n,j d;d
[19:27] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: ok, boot that entry again, if you get a grub shell
[19:27] <guruprasad_> Have to try the same with legacy disabled
[19:27] <abrakam> ytjtykuykyk
[19:27] <EriC^^> then boot your current install from it
[19:27] <abrakam> fuck your ass
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> !ops | abrakam
[19:28] <EriC^^> and when it boots, just type sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed and you should be good
[19:28] <guruprasad_> EriC^^: From the legacy mode or UEFI mode?
[19:28] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: ^ do you need help booting the install?
[19:28] <EriC^^> uefi
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> k1l: tnx
[19:29] <guruprasad_> EriC^^: I suspect it will boot fine if I turn off legacy. If not, typing the lines usually seen in grub2 when you try to edit it will work?
[19:30] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: type ls -l in grub to get a list of the devices and uuid, then as usual set root='(hdx,gptY)' , then linux /boot/vmlinuz... root=UUID=<put the uuid here> , then initrd /boot/init... , then type boot
[19:30] <guruprasad_> EriC^^: If there is something I could refer to manually boot the installed OS from grub shell, that will be handy
[19:30] <guruprasad_> EriC^^: that's all? That looks like the grub 1 way :)
[19:31] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: basically you just need to get the uuid, use ls -l to get it, it's the 50gb ext4 partition, set root='(hdX,gptY)' of that partition
[19:32] <guruprasad_> EriC^^: Sure, let me try these things out and get back. Thanks for the help EriC^^ and daftykins :)
[19:32] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: yup that's about it, you can type insmod part_gpt and insmod ext2 and insmod linux before, but i think it already has them loaded
[19:32] <EriC^^> guruprasad_: ok
[19:32] <moijk> What would I use if I want to use regexp in a bash script to set a variable to the filtered output?
[19:32] <requiest> how to autologin in ubuntu text mode . disabled xwindows desktop. i did settings exec /sbin/getty 8 38400 tty -a pc
[19:33] <requiest> the result nothing
[19:35] <EriC^^> requiest: you want it to boot into text mode?
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> requiest you mean like a server, with no UI?
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> no GUI*
[19:37] <requiest> text mode is ok it login termenal is displaying
[19:37] <EriC^^> requiest: which country are you from?
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> requiest what you can try... use GDM instead of LightDM... you can then login in GUI, enable automatic login... logout, select terminal mode, login <-- wild idea
[19:40] <andre> Hello! I'm trying to give a user permission to change things in var/www/data, but nothing seems to work
[19:40] <requiest> that i have in gdm and lightm it is working
[19:40] <Guest87401> I have tried almost everything but 777, it seems.
[19:40] <MWM> what dows it mean when I hand at the purple screen and then get sent to the busybox screen
[19:40] <Guest87401> the user is in www-data, and www-data has 755 over /var/www (-R)
[19:40] <MWM> with an initramfs prompt
[19:40] <Jordan_U> requiest: You should not be using telnet to log into machines. telnet has zero security.
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> Guest87401: maybe the ##httpd guys can help with that
[19:41] <Guest87401> I'll ask there, thanks lotuspsychje
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> MWM: ubuntu version?
[19:42] <MWM> 14.04.3 @lotuspsycje
[19:42] <MWM> 64bit
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> MWM: how did you create the usb stick?
[19:43] <freakyy> how often do they usualyl release ati drivers?
[19:43] <geeko> welcome, can anyone help me please with a dvb driver, I'm going crazy :(
[19:43] <lotuspsychje> freakyy: they just released a new amdgpu for newer cards
[19:43] <MWM> I used unetbootin ... is there a better one?
[19:43] <requiest> disabled xwindows desktop. i did settings exec /sbin/getty 8 38400 tty -a pc
[19:43] <lotuspsychje> MWM: wicj Os did you create from?
[19:43] <lotuspsychje> wich
[19:43] <requiest> no redult
[19:44] <requiest> result
[19:44] <MWM> HMM? Ubuntu Desktop 64 bit? or did you mean something else?
[19:44] <lotuspsychje> MWM: yes i mean wich operating system did you create your ubuntu usb?
[19:44] <MWM> oh! Windows 7
[19:45] <geeko> someone notice my question please
[19:45] <lotuspsychje> MWM: try the universal usb installer
[19:45] <WinterGuardian> HI I have an issue with Ubuntu. It's booting but the graphic interface is crashing. It's only saying I have an internal error on normal startup. I tryed going on safe graphic startup on the recovery menu. It said me it can't detect my graphic settings so I had to choose them. Unfortunately, I had to do that in a gui and it couldn't be loaded correctly. I had a choice to do but there wasn't any text next to the
[19:45] <WinterGuardian> checkboxes. After that I've rebooted and tryed to repair packages. It found things to repair but couldn't download the updates because I wasn't connected. So I've rebooted again and did the network thing in the recovery menu. Couldn't start a new networking process because there was already one and nothing was happening after. No coming back to the recoverymenu or anything, I could type text but no commands. I know how
[19:45] <MWM> the one included in win7?
[19:45] <lotuspsychje> !details | geeko
[19:45] <WinterGuardian> to go in console mode but I have no idea what are the commands I should type.
[19:45] <EriC^^> requiest: you can add "text" to the grub kernel line, that will boot to a login terminal
[19:45] <EriC^^> requiest: quiet splash text ...
[19:45] <Hexbomber> Strange question, not directly Ubuntu related, but I figured somebody here might now. I've got two ubuntu machines ('devserver' and 'vps'). 'devserver' is firewalled and only allows remote connections from 'vps'. I am trying to setup an SSH tunnel that goes from 'my local desktop' -> 'vps' -> 'devserver', so I can access my app that's running on 'devserver' port 3000. Is this possible using PuTTy?
[19:45] <requiest> ok done
[19:46] <EriC^^> requiest: sudo update-grub
[19:46] <requiest> ok
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> WinterGuardian: ubuntu version? graphics card chipset?
[19:46] <requiest> now restarted
[19:47] <nat0> Hexbomber: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/140853/securely-tunnel-port-through-intermediate-host
[19:47] <nat0> Dunno about putty though.
[19:47] <Hexbomber> nat0, thanks!
[19:47] <nat0> Np
[19:47] <WinterGuardian> lotuspsychje 14.04 Radeon HD Graphics 1.40 GHz
[19:47] <WinterGuardian> It's working perfectly fine on windows
[19:47] <requiest> ok now login screen has come in text mode
[19:47] <WinterGuardian> and Worked fine the day after the installation of ubuntu
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> WinterGuardian: did this all happen after an updateN
[19:48] <MWM> @ lotuspsychje http://www.pendrivelinux.com/liveusb-install-live-usb-creator/ this one?
[19:48] <geeko> lotuspsychje: Thanks, I have an external dvd receiver (TechniSat SkyStar USB 2), I can't watch tv channel using MeTv or Kaffeine, because I got no DVB device, so I try to install the drivers I follow some tuts but I don't know if it's installed or no, and if no I don't know what to do, please help me I'm novice :(
[19:48] <requiest> erci ok now login screen has come in text mode
[19:49] <WinterGuardian> lotuspsychje it was 2 weeks ago, I've ignored it and used Windows instead I have dual boot. All I did litterally is to update grub to be able to boot on windows because I couldn't at first
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> !usb | MWM
[19:49] <EriC^^> requiest: is that what you want?
[19:49] <geeko> lotuspsychje: I mean DVB*
[19:51] <requiest> erci now here it should not ask for user name and password it should directly login to user
[19:52] <requiest> erci i mean if user name is pc1 $ prompt
[19:53] <shinji_hic> hello
[19:53] <WinterGuardian> anyone has an idea of what i should do ?
[19:54] <Ripmind> Is there some very easy to use upnp server for ubuntu?
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> WinterGuardian: can you enter grub to load a previous kernel?
[19:54] <WinterGuardian> lotuspsychje I "think" If I do advanced options, I have 4 things, well 2 with their recovery mode
[19:54] <WinterGuardian> I tryed both in normal and they are crashing the same way
[19:55] <WinterGuardian> It's like Ubuntu 14.04 on linux 32
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> WinterGuardian: recoverymode/fix broken packages
[19:55] <WinterGuardian> or 67
[19:55] <shinji_hic> can anyone help me installing a ppa launchpad with the command "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:someppa/ppa"
[19:55] <WinterGuardian> I tryed but I need network do to that
[19:55] <WinterGuardian> As I said in my long story, I can't connect the my wifi network
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | Shibe
[19:55] <WinterGuardian> It was working before though
[19:56] <OerHeks> shinji_hic, url?
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> WinterGuardian: its reccomended to install ubuntu with internet/cable
[19:56] <shinji_hic> https://launchpad.net/~strukturag/+archive/ubuntu/libde265
[19:56] <Ripmind> is teh package java-common the default java?
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> !java | Ripmind
[19:57] <OerHeks> open terminal crtl + T : sudo add-apt-repository ppa:strukturag/libde265
[19:57] <Ripmind> i know what i need for o.O
[19:57] <WinterGuardian> Well I'll try with a cable thanks
[19:57] <shinji_hic> thanx OerHeks
[19:57] <redkriegtober_> hello
[19:58] <OerHeks> shinji_hic, it has *no* packages for wily 15.10
[19:58] <redkriegtober_> do I just state a problem I'm having?
[19:58] <ioria> !info java-common
[19:58] <shinji_hic> its ok i have 14.04
[19:58] <OerHeks> shinji_hic, oke, have fun!
[19:58] <shinji_hic> thank you
[19:58] <ZeroSnuup> Hello
[19:59] <livetv> Welcome I have a tv card driver problem, can anyone help me please
[20:00] <redkriegtober_> using a xubuntu 64bit live usb to boot into my lenovo b575. It tells me that wifi is hardware blocked(using rfkill list) and that it isn't software blocked. none of my hardware keys re enable wifi.
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> redkriegtober_: what brand of pc is that?
[20:01] <freakyy> lotuspsychje: what did they relelease? a new card model? ... but no new drivers?
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> freakyy: amdgpu driver for linux, for newer card models
[20:01] <freakyy> lotuspsychje: where can i get that driver?
[20:01] <redkriegtober_> lenovo b575 is the model
[20:02] <lotuspsychje> freakyy: dont think its added to repos yet
[20:02] <freakyy> is it amd-catalyst-15.9-linux-installer-15.201.1151-x86.x86_64.zip?
[20:02] <freakyy> lotuspsychje: how do u know that? and where can i check?
[20:02] <lotuspsychje> redkriegtober_: you know if bios has a 'last state' wifi option?
[20:02] <redkriegtober_> lotuspsychje: lenovo b575 is the model
[20:02] <redkriegtober_> lotuspsychje: I'll boot into bios...
[20:03] <redkriegtober_> lotuspsychje: where would this option be in bios?
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> redkriegtober_ the bios screen can be different on different computers
[20:05] <redkriegtober_> MonkeyDust: under configuration it has an option to enable or disable wireless. it says it's enabled.
[20:05] <guruprasad> EriC^^I was able to enable secureboot and install Ubuntu GNOME :D After the install, grub showed up and I am now in the installed Ubuntu GNOME
[20:05] <guruprasad> Thanks for your help
[20:05] <lotuspsychje> freakyy: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMDGPU-Xorg-1.0
[20:05] <lotuspsychje> redkriegtober_: ok, wich chipset is your wifi card
[20:06] <guruprasad> I did see some graphics glitches after selecting ubuntu in grub, but that's probably because of using nouveau for my Nvidia GTX 970 card
[20:06] <guruprasad> Now I have to check if I can boot into Windows from grub :)
[20:06] <redkriegtober_> lotuspsychje: ralink rt3090
[20:06] <guruprasad> Thanks again EriC^^ and daftykins :)
[20:06] <lotuspsychje> redkriegtober_: ralink cards might need proper firmware
[20:07] <EriC^^> guruprasad: great, no problem
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> redkriegtober_: did you install ubuntu with internet/cable on?
[20:07] <redkriegtober_> lotuspsychje: it isn't installed, I'm using a live usb at the moment. (this is a separate laptop I'm typing on)
[20:08] <freakyy> lotuspsychje: thanks i dont need that one - its only for newer graphic cards
[20:08] <lotuspsychje> redkriegtober_: i would install ubuntu with cable, enable updates during setup
[20:08] <redkriegtober_> lotuspsychje: unfortunately, I don't have an ethernet cable.
[20:08] <lotuspsychje> redkriegtober_: then update your system to latest 14.04.3
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> redkriegtober_: ralink cards need to touch linux-firmware to get proper firmware in sompe cases
[20:10] <OerHeks> some of those ralink ( atheros) need hwencryption off > echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf
[20:10] <redkriegtober_> lotuspsychje: for whatever reason I just get a blank screen when trying to boot into live usbs with 14.04 on them
[20:11] <Ripmind> how can i update java to 1.8? default-jd was 1.7
[20:11] <redkriegtober_> lotuspsychje: sorry, I forgot to mention I've been using the 15.10 live usb
[20:12] <sam_vimes> I have an ubuntu server on a remote location, with no access to it. Can I delete everything on it and re-install ubuntu on it without actual access?
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> redkriegtober_: try LTS for more stable experience
[20:12] <sam_vimes> or just kind of, clean everything
[20:12] <redkriegtober_> lotuspsychje: the LTS does not boot from the live usb, or go into install process.
[20:12] <OerHeks> sam_vimes, only if you can do magic
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> sam_vimes you mean, no physical access, only over the network?
[20:13] <sam_vimes> yes
[20:13] <lotuspsychje> redkriegtober_: how did you create your usb?
[20:13] <sam_vimes> if the OS can run in ram or something whilst the rest is being purged, seems technically possible.
[20:13] <redkriegtober_> lotuspsychje: I'm using a surface pro 3 with ubuntu gnome 15.10 to make live usbs using dd
[20:13] <compdoc> sam_vimes, only if you had remote access to the console, like this: http://www.howtogeek.com/56538/how-to-remotely-control-your-pc-even-when-it-crashes/
[20:14] <sam_vimes> I do have terminal access
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> redkriegtober_: ive install many lenovo's with 14.04.3 already never failed on me
[20:14] <sam_vimes> nope, don't have that
[20:14] <compdoc> Kvm over ip
[20:15] <compdoc> if not, once you wipe the OS, theres no more connection
[20:15] <redkriegtober_> lotuspsychje: I've tried to boot several alterations of ubuntu with the 14.04lts (gnome, unity, xubuntu, kubuntu.) none of them work at all
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> redkriegtober_: that doesnt make sense mate
[20:15] <redkriegtober_> lotuspsychje: only the 15.10 is booting up.
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> redkriegtober_ then why use ubuntu at all?
[20:15] <sam_vimes> sure, but is there a way to delete everything but the base OS ?
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> redkriegtober_: what kind of graphics card this lenovo have?
[20:15] <sam_vimes> like how Windows 10 does it
[20:16] <compdoc> uninstall packages
[20:16] <Ripmind> hum
[20:16] <Ripmind> anyone?
[20:16] <compdoc> programs
[20:16] <redkriegtober_> MonkeyDust: I've got debian 8 installed on there already(dualbooted with bodhi linux) and it doesn't recognize wifi networks
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> redkriegtober_ where does ubuntu come in?
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> redkriegtober_: you need to plugin cable
[20:17] <redkriegtober_> MonkeyDust: I've tried to boot several alterations of ubuntu with the 14.04lts (gnome, unity, xubuntu, kubuntu.) none of them work at all
[20:17] <redkriegtober_> lotuspsychje: I don't have any access to a physical connection.
[20:18] <redkriegtober_> lotuspsychje: checking graphics card
[20:18] <lotuspsychje> redkriegtober_: all flavors had same error?
[20:18] <redkriegtober_> lotuspsychje: so long as they were the 14.04.3 yes/
[20:18] <redkriegtober_> lotuspsychje: the 15.10 boots correctly for all, except I get the wifi issue.
[20:19] <RonWhoCares> What program can support an HD web cam?
[20:19] <redkriegtober_> lotuspsychje: amd e-350 cpu
[20:19] <sam_vimes> gnome smile?
[20:19] <sam_vimes> RonWhoCares, Cheese (Gnome) https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Cheese
[20:20] <RonWhoCares> Cheese is only showing 640x480
[20:20] <redkriegtober_> lotuspsychje: just tried to boot the 14.04.3 vanilla ubuntu and it made the "classic ubuntu sound" with nothing showing on the screen. so perhaps there is a graphic driver error with 14.04.3
[20:20] <redkriegtober_> lotuspsychje: but that has been fixed in 15.10
[20:20] <RonWhoCares> sam_vimes: This is the web cam I purchased http://www.ebay.ca/itm/381346518004
[20:21] <thebwt> is there a way to make the ubuntu CLI output the release codename? A file or something that I can cat to say 'trusty' for example?
[20:21] <sam_vimes> 50MP!?
[20:21] <GrayHatSecurity> MAC is for Noobs :)
[20:21] <RonWhoCares> sam_vimes: I sure how they don't mean 5.0 MP
[20:22] <RonWhoCares> I am wanting to record video
[20:22] <sam_vimes> well, my cheese gives me 1080p, the max of my camera
[20:22] <RonWhoCares> You think the camera isn't HD?
[20:22] <sam_vimes> so cheese goes at least to HD. probably higher. "Edit > Preference" and set the resolution
[20:23] <MWM> back at a fresh install with no setwork available
[20:23] <MWM> no network that would be
[20:23] <Jordan_U> thebwt: "man lsb_release", specifically to get the codename (as opposed to the official release name) "lsb_release -c".
[20:23] <RonWhoCares> sam_vimes: The video resolution highest is 640x480
[20:24] <RonWhoCares> sam_vimes: That is what the box says too :/
[20:24] <Ben64> RonWhoCares: its quite likely that the ebay ad lied
[20:24] <sam_vimes> then I don't know, mine goes higher then 640x480. Se either the camera is a lie (probably..) or the drivers are weird, try another program.
[20:24] <MWM> fresh install of 14.04 64bit desktop that is.
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> RonWhoCares are you in Unity?
[20:25] <lotuspsychje> MWM: sudo lshw -C network
[20:25] <RonWhoCares> MonkeyDust: I don't know what Unity is
[20:25] <sneakret_> Can anyone tell me why the logtail package is deprecated, and whether it has been replaced with something better?
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> RonWhoCares with the bar on the left
[20:25] <RonWhoCares> Yes I am
[20:26] <RonWhoCares> MonkeyDust: Do you have another suggestion to try?
[20:26] <Ben64> sneakret_: it still appears to be in the repositories
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> RonWhoCares right click on the Dash menu (top left), select Applications, look for 'cam'... see what you can use
[20:26] <sneakret_> Or better yet, can someone tell me how to find details related to Ubuntu package deprecation? (Reasons, when it was deprecated, what it was replaced with, etc.)
[20:26] <lotuspsychje> redkriegtober_: did you try nomodeset on 14.04.3
[20:27] <redkriegtober_> lotuspsychje: what is nomodeset
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | redkriegtober_
[20:27] <MWM> @ lotuspsychje I cant paste because the machine has no connectioneven intenally. there doesnt appear to be anything odd in there though. Ive been having this problem already and think it may be that the driver isnt installed.
[20:27] <sneakret_> $ apt-cache search logtail
[20:27] <sneakret_> logtail - Print log file lines that have not been read (deprecated)
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> MWM: whats the network card chipset
[20:27] <redkriegtober_> lotuspsychje: I'll look at this now, thank you.
[20:27] <RonWhoCares> MonkeyDust: There are a few here
[20:28] <sneakret_> It's in the repositories, but the package description says it's deprecated.
[20:28] <MWM> @lotuspsychje realtek 8111
[20:28] <MWM> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022411 <- this works but doesnt survive a reboot
[20:28] <Jordan_U> sneakret_: The package's short description says that it's deprecated, and so shouldn't be used even if it is available. The long description includes "This is good for marking log files for automatic log file checkers to monitor system events." suggesting that it wasn't intended as much for end users as for other logging notifiers. Were you using it directly?
[20:29] <krzesik> g
[20:29] <MWM> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022411 < this errors at the build step
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> !realtek | MWM
[20:29] <RonWhoCares> MonkeyDust: Camera , Camera Monitor , Camorama Webcam Viewer , Gtcam Digital Camera Browser
[20:29] <redkriegtober_> lotuspsychje: am I to enter this in terminal with live usb or in grub? I'm a newb
[20:29] <sneakret_> Jordan_U: I want to do some very specific log notification, and I was going to use logtail. If it is deprecated, I prefer not to use it... but has it been replaced with something better?
[20:30] <MWM> thank you both. I will look at the link and see what I can do.
[20:30] <lotuspsychje> redkriegtober_: read the boot options in nomodeset, from grub you can edit
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> RonWhoCares yes, click on either and read the description, see what most suits you
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> RonWhoCares if you don't get an answer here, try in #ubuntustudio
[20:31] <sneakret_> Maybe I'm not asking the ideal question.
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> !info colortail | sneakret_
[20:31] <RonWhoCares> MonkeyDust: Thanks
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> sneak: colortail -f /var/log/syslog
[20:31] <sneakret_> I want to do some specific log monitoring and notification. I don't want a package that comes with a bunch of prebuilt notification rules. Is there a good solution for that?
[20:32] <sneakret_> lotuspsychje: That could be handy, but I don't think it does what I want.
[20:32] <Jordan_U> sneakret_: For Ubuntu 14.10 and newer you'll probably want to hook into journalctl.
[20:33] <sneakret_> I'm on 14.04
[20:34] <thebwt> Jordan_U: thanks!
[20:34] <Ripmind> any good upnp server for ubuntu??
[20:34] <lotuspsychje> Ripmind: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys know
[20:35] <lotuspsychje> sneakret_: can you detail what specific logs you wanna monitor then?
[20:35] <Ripmind> Ok other question: Does anyone know how i can install java 1.8?
[20:35] <sneakret_> For now, I want to monitor auth.log primarily.
[20:35] <lotuspsychje> !latest | Ripmind
[20:36] <Ripmind> I still need it, so how can i do it manually?
[20:36] <sneakret_> Ripmind: http://askubuntu.com/questions/464755/how-to-install-openjdk-8-on-14-04-lts
[20:36] <Ripmind> answered May 13 '14
[20:36] <Ripmind> They "will be available soon",
[20:37] <Ripmind> xD
[20:37] <Ripmind> linux in a nutshell
[20:37] <sneakret_> Keep reading.
[20:37] <Ben64> Ripmind: not really
[20:37] <sneakret_> openjdk-8-jre or openjdk-8-jdk
[20:38] <Ben64> been in ubuntu since 14.10
[20:38] <sneakret_> ppa:openjdk-r/ppa
[20:38] <Ripmind> i don't have those tho :o
[20:38] <Ripmind> Aaaaah i know the problem
[20:38] <Ripmind> Might be my bad
[20:38] <k1l> Ripmind: "lsb_release -d" gives what output?
[20:38] <Ripmind> i'm working on a rpi2
[20:38] <lotuspsychje> !info ninja | sneakret_ can this help?
[20:38] <Ripmind> It's 14.04 LTS
[20:38] <Ripmind> 14.04.3 LTS
[20:38] <Ripmind> but it's arm arch
[20:38] <k1l> Ripmind: there is java for arm, too
[20:39] <Ripmind> but not java 8?
[20:39] <Ripmind> http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/openjdk-8-jre
[20:39] <Ripmind> amd64 and i386 :(
[20:40] <Ripmind> that is... reeeeaaally bad hum
[20:40] <sneakret_> No Oracle Java 8 for ARM?
[20:40] <k1l> Ripmind: nope
[20:40] <Ripmind> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk8-arm-downloads-2187472.html
[20:40] <Ripmind> seems likely
[20:40] <Ripmind> jdk is as good if not better than JRE right
[20:40] <k1l> Ripmind: that is official and gets build for arm too
[20:40] <k1l> Ripmind: see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-8/8u66-b01-5
[20:41] <k1l> Ripmind: ah wait. its not for 14.04
[20:41] <Ripmind> :D
[20:41] <Ripmind> sadly yes
[20:41] <Ripmind> might it still work?
[20:41] <Ripmind> if i load the deb file?
[20:41] <Ripmind> i could give it a try, right?
[20:41] <Ben64> bad idea to mix versions
[20:42] <Ripmind> hmm
[20:42] <Ripmind> then i'll use official
[20:42] <k1l> what does need java8 then?
[20:42] <MrFastDie> Hey guys, if I click a random link in a third program my chrome browser just opens a blank tab, any suggestion? Ubuntu 15.10
[20:42] <k1l> Ripmind: all 14.04 software should work with openjdk-7-jdk
[20:42] <sneakret_> ubottu: I'm wanting to notify on ssh login failure primarily. sshd login success, sudo login success, and sudo login failure would be bonuses.
[20:43] <Ripmind> k1l: my loved upnp server i sued for windows is there for linux too but need jaba 1.8
[20:43] <sneakret_> Uh... then no, it doesn't help.
[20:43] <sneakret_> :)
[20:43] <lotuspsychje> sneakret_: fail2ban?
[20:43] <k1l> Ripmind: just use minidlna
[20:44] <k1l> !info minidlna trusty | Ripmind
[20:44] <sneakret_> I'm using sshguard rather than fail2ban. I don't remember why I chose it over fail2ban offhand, but I'm wanting to do notification--not ban/lockout.
[20:44] <sneakret_> Does fail2ban do notification?
[20:44] <lotuspsychje> sneakret_: didnt use myself, but it should mention banned hosts somehow right
[20:44] <k1l> need to enable backports first on 14.04 for minidlna
[20:45] <sneakret_> lotuspsychje: Sure. It logs them. :)
[20:45] <sneakret_> I'm wanting log notification.
[20:45] <k1l> i would not use java software as a server task anyway, tbh
[20:45] <sneakret_> and I want notification of each failure--not only when the host is banned.
[20:45] <Ben64> k1l: especially not on a raspberry pi
[20:46] <Ripmind> humm
[20:46] <lotuspsychje> sneakret_: maybe the #openssh guys know more tools specificly
[20:46] <Ripmind> but it's a really good upnp server :/
[20:46] <lotuspsychje> sneakret_: snort is also pretty nice to prevent intrusion
[20:46] <utu8o> so what are your favorite apps that you use the most?
[20:46] <Ben64> Ripmind: how is it better than anything else? it serves files over the network
[20:46] <lotuspsychje> utu8o: better ask what you need mate
[20:47] <Ripmind> it collects covers atuomatically, recognizes series, recognized which episode u watched last etc.
[20:47] <sneakret_> Yeah, I'm familiar with snort. I'm specifically looking for login failure notification though.
[20:47] <utu8o> a pretty woman
[20:47] <Ben64> Ripmind: yep, many do that
[20:47] <lotuspsychje> utu8o: you wont find that here
[20:47] <utu8o> oh ok
[20:47] <Ripmind> does minidlna do that, Ben64?
[20:48] <Ben64> i haven't used that one, you could check their website though
[20:48] <Ripmind> oh there's mediatomb
[20:48] <Guest90945> is there a way to remove nautilus bookmarks ... which are shoved down my throat .. music picutes .. i dont need that shit .. not even home
[20:48] <Ripmind> i remember it was supposed to be good
[20:48] <emitattuo> Hi, what is the best way copy only files that don't already exist somewhere in a directory tree (e.g. ~/). the files may not be in the same directory as the source directories. I thought rsync could do something similar, but would I need to find matching files and then pipe them to rsync? I'd also like the files copied to a subdirectory into ~/, rather than ~/ itself.
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> sneakret_: im reading fail2ban can email notify :p
[20:49] <lotuspsychje> !language | Guest90945
[20:50] <sneakret_> lotuspsychje: On each login failure, or only when it bans?
[20:50] <utu8o> i like Linux Mint
[20:50] <jessec> Does network-manager not come as default in 14.04 sever?
[20:51] <kubast2> Hey ,I installed tint2[taskbar] ,openbox[window manager] ,menu[program list] and obmenu[openbox menu editor]. How can I modify the program list name ,programs categories etc. this package > http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/menu ?
[20:51] <rogger_h> Hello all, im looking for sys admin for my server :) my budget is not big but maybe someone intrested . Pm me
[20:51] <k1l> utu8o: no problem with that, its just this channel focuses on ubuntu support. for mint better see their channels
[20:51] <lotuspsychje> sneakret_: not sure, youll have to test :p
[20:52] <utu8o> doesn't Linux Mint have ubuntu?
[20:52] <emitattuo> rogger_h, this is a support channel. It'd be better to ask in another channel that allows that.
[20:52] <Bashing-om> jessec: Nope, consider that network-manager is a GUI thing, and server by default has not GUI .
[20:53] <rogger_h> hmmm ok, i dont see how thats not allowd but ok
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> utu8o type /j ##linuxmint, ask there
[20:54] <lotuspsychje> rogger_h: try a cheap server hosting company for what you need
[20:55] <emitattuo> rogger_h, I'm not an op here, but it doesn't seem like a support issue, rather a job advertisement.
[20:56] <sneakret_> lotuspsychje: Rather than switching to fail2ban, I think I'll focus on the log monitoring option.
[20:56] <sneakret_> since I already chose something else over fail2ban
[20:56] <lotuspsychje> sneakret_: ok good luck mate
[20:56] <sneakret_> On #openssh someone suggested logwatch. I looked at that and logcheck briefly, but they seemed to do much more than I need.
[20:56] <Kaosu> I was wondering if anyone might take a look a Ubuntu security guide I decided to write. Feel free to PM me with feedback. You can find the guide at: https://codezero.me/Ubuntu-Security-Guide/
[20:57] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | Kaosu
[20:57] <Kaosu> My aplogies. I will move to that channel. See ya.
[20:59] <ubuntu819> should i type sudo rm -rf /* to clean my temp files?
[21:00] <Bashing-om> !danger
[21:01] <BluesKaj> ubuntu819, that's a no no here
[21:01] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | ubuntu819
[21:02] <k1l> ubuntu819: that is a malicious command. dont use that
[21:02] <sneakret_> I just assumed ubuntu819 was trolling.
[21:03] <agent_white> Same... and if so, it's not funny to put in this channel.
[21:04] <Jesterboxboy> when i start my ubuntu installation i get "the system is running in low graphics mode" i cant click the okay button, but i can switch to console
[21:04] <sneakret_> I guess he was disappointed with the response.
[21:05] <Jesterboxboy> is there a way to reconfigure my x server?
[21:06] <EriC^^> Jesterboxboy: maybe you need to install graphics drivers
[21:06] <MAxou> can i use cinamon on ubuntu ??
[21:06] <Jesterboxboy> i did install nvidia-common and nvidia-common update
[21:06] <Jesterboxboy> nvidia-current sry
[21:06] <Jesterboxboy> but to no avail
[21:07] <BluesKaj> Jesterboxboy, which gpu ?
[21:07] <MAxou> can i use cinamon on ubuntu ?? I have just install ubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-amd64
[21:07] <BluesKaj> nvidia-current no longer works
[21:08] <DonkeyHotei> i'm getting auth errors downloading from trusty-backports. fix??
[21:08] <Bashing-om> Jesterboxboy: Purge the old driver prior to a (re-)unstall ? - OR did you use the "Additinal Drivers" utility ?
[21:08] <k1l> MAxou: for 14.04 you need a PPA for that
[21:08] <Jesterboxboy> i did purge all nvidia-* packages, then installed nvidia-common after update
[21:08] <k1l> DonkeyHotei: can you pastebin the output?
[21:09] <DonkeyHotei> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[21:09] <DonkeyHotei> k1l: ^
[21:09] <Jesterboxboy> @BluesKaj its a nvidia gpu, wait a minute ill post details
[21:10] <k1l> DonkeyHotei: "apt-cache policy packagename" shows what?
[21:11] <DonkeyHotei> 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-backports/main amd64 Packages
[21:11] <k1l> DonkeyHotei: sudo apt-key update && sudo apt-get update
[21:11] <agent_white> Jesterboxboy: Have you checked the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf file?
[21:12] <Jesterboxboy> @BluesKaj its nvidia quadro fx 1500
[21:12] <agent_white> Jesterboxboy: Also... check to see if you have the command `nvidia-xconfig` for automatic Xorg configuration.
[21:12] <DonkeyHotei> k1l: Thanx!!!
[21:14] <MAxou> k1l what is PPA -_-
[21:15] <k1l> MAxou: 3rd party repo since it is not included into the official ubuntu repo when 14.04 was released
[21:15] <Bashing-om> Jesterboxboy: Per Nvidia : The 304.xx driver supports the following set of GPUs: >> Quadro FX 1500 .
[21:15] <k1l> MAxou: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/07/new-cinnamon-ubuntu-14-04-ppa-stable
[21:17] <Jesterboxboy> okay i just ran the nvidia-xconfig tool and rebootet
[21:17] <RonWhoCares> MonkeyDust: I am betting the HD isn't compatible with Linux. Do you think this will be good? http://www.ebay.ca/itm/272052169796
[21:18] <MAxou> k1l ok I need to add the deposit folder url in soft & update to have the package in Ubuntu soft center ?
[21:18] <k1l> MAxou: yes.
[21:18] <MAxou> ok thank for your help
[21:19] <agent_white> Jesterboxboy: Any luck? If not, does `lsmod | grep nvidia` give you anything?
[21:19] <Jesterboxboy> not yet
[21:20] <BluesKaj_> had to switch machines
[21:20] <Ripmind> how can i mount something automatically on boot? with crontab?
[21:20] <Jesterboxboy> i just rebootet, but it takes ages because of some other problems
[21:20] <agent_white> Ah
[21:20] <Jesterboxboy> mhm now iam stuck at a blinking cursor
[21:20] <agent_white> !fstab | Ripmind
[21:21] <Ripmind> woah
[21:21] <Ripmind> okay thanks
[21:21] <Jesterboxboy> i get "a start job is running for dev-disk" when starting, mhm ill tackle that when the graphics issue is solved :D
[21:23] <MAxou> k1l : so i should add this : deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kranich/cinnamon/ubuntu trusty main
[21:23] <Jesterboxboy> @agent_white yes lsmod | grep ndivida gives back nvidia 11407360 26
[21:24] <Jesterboxboy> and drm 356352 2 nvidia
[21:24] <k1l> MAxou: in the article i linked your there are clear instructions for the terminal
[21:25] <agent_white> Jesterboxboy: Still getting getting your error?
[21:26] <Jesterboxboy> mhm yes on start iam running into the low graphics mode
[21:26] <Jesterboxboy> splash
[21:27] <Jesterboxboy> so i installed nvidia-curren-update, then ran nvidia-xcofnig
[21:27] <Jesterboxboy> is there some way to restart the whole xserver thing without rebooting my machine every time?
[21:28] <jessec> Bashing-om, thanks it's been a while, didn't want my static setup to disappear.
[21:29] <agent_white> Jesterboxboy: Take a look here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error/141607#141607
[21:30] <agent_white> Jesterboxboy: If that doesn't work, scroll to the top up there and look at the top-voted comment; next thing to try might be a re-install of the driver.
[21:30] <MAxou> ok thank for your help again ;)
[21:30] <MWM> Error getting hardware address for "eth0": no such device ?
[21:31] <MAxou> because unity is very not user friendly for a work usage in my opinion
[21:32] <TimDix> Hello
[21:33] <Jesterboxboy> hm i already purged and reinstalled the nvidia driver
[21:33] <Jesterboxboy> the lightdm tip: i dont have the lightdm.conf, ill try just adding it
[21:33] <TimDix> I'm new to Ubuntu, coming from a Windows / Limited Mac background, and I'm finding the Desktop experience a bit sluggish compared to both... suggestions on how to fix / optimize and/or replace with snappier?
[21:33] <Jesterboxboy> how can i check if the right driver is loaded ?
[21:34] <sneakret_> I spent so much time fighting nvidia drivers, I finally switched to ATI, only to learn that the driver situation was even worse... so I gave up on Ubuntu as a desktop OS.
[21:34] <k1l> TimDix: what ubuntu exactly?
[21:34] <sneakret_> That's not very helpful information though. Just sharing, I guess.
[21:35] <k1l> TimDix: and what hardware is that (cpu, video card,ram?)
[21:36] <agent_white> Jesterboxboy: That's what `lsmod` is for, to lookup the modules loaded. -- What the the previous driver you were using, nouveau?
[21:36] <TimDix> 14.04 LTS, Intel® Core™ i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz × 8, GeForce GT 640/PCIe/SSE2, 12GB Ram
[21:36] <Bashing-om> jessec: ' dpkg -l | grep nvidia* ' . Can have only one that is status 'ii' .( preferably none other than one _ .
[21:36] <Jesterboxboy> @agent_white that i know, but it only shows to lines with nvidia in them, iam not quite sure if they are correctly loaded
[21:36] <sneakret_> nvidia* is a strange regex. :)
[21:36] <jessec> ^ don't think that's for me
[21:36] <k1l> TimDix: you installed the nvidia driver in the "propriatary drivers tab"?
[21:36] <TimDix> Yes
[21:37] <TimDix> The default drivers caused frequent crashes.
[21:37] <Jesterboxboy> right now i installed it in the command line with sudo apt-get install nvidia-current-updates
[21:37] <TimDix> Switching to nvidia's drivers cleared up the crashes.
[21:37] <agent_white> Jesterboxboy: `lsmod`, then upload that to paste.ubuntu.com so I can take a look.
[21:37] <Jesterboxboy> different machine
[21:38] <oberststen> I have php5-fpm, but suddenly my sites stopped working, had to restart php5-fpm, the log says nothing, anyone knows where could I start?
[21:38] <Paaltomo> hello :)
[21:39] <frite> hi, with an IP the police can always get the person right? not just a latitude and longitude?
[21:39] <Jesterboxboy> http://pastebin.com/NGuy3re7
[21:39] <Jesterboxboy> its a symbol by symbol transcription
[21:39] <agent_white> Jesterboxboy: `sudo ubuntu-drivers devices` <- Find your model in here
[21:39] <sneakret_> Bashing-om: FYI, "grep nvidia*" will match "nvidi", "nvidifoo", "nvidia", "nvidiaaaaaa", ... grep uses regex rather than globbing, and does partial matches by default (so "grep nvidia" would do what you intended)
[21:40] <Bashing-om> sneakret_: Yeah .. agreed .. phone was ringing and I got rushed .
[21:40] <k1l> frite: #ubuntu-offtopic for non ubuntu related talk
[21:41] <sneakret_> Bashing-om: Sorry to tell you what you already know then. :)
[21:41] <sneakret_> Man... as IRC help goes, this is pretty impressive. I'm used to seeing lots of flamewars.
[21:42] <Jesterboxboy> @agent_white thanks already knew the model, and i installed nvidia-304-udpates
[21:42] <MrCeeIII> anyone familiar with conky
[21:42] <agent_white> Jesterboxboy: Likely you need the write driver installed... I'm guessing 340.
[21:42] <TimDix> k1l: To clarify a bit on what I'm referring to as sluggish... switching between applications, Alt + Tab, resizing windows, etc.
[21:42] <agent_white> Jesterboxboy: 304? Or 340?
[21:42] <Jesterboxboy> its recommending the 304
[21:42] <TimDix> k1l: Also, the performance definitely appears to deteriorate with time, gets better on reboot.
[21:43] <Bashing-om> sneakret_: Nope, no applogy required .. re-infocement is good .. and needful for correct instruction in this channel .:)
[21:43] <MrCeeIII> ok that wasnt a good way to address the issue.... how about this i installed an application from the software center howerver, it does not show in the menu search... why would this happen?
[21:43] <agent_white> Jesterboxboy: huh... what do the first 6 letters after "modadlias : pci:...." say?
[21:44] <nightviper> Hey is there any virus writing software on BlackBox?
[21:44] <k1l> TimDix: could be driver specific issues. see the system logs about that. i dont have that feeling on my laptop with intel card.
[21:44] <k1l> !blackbox | nightviper
[21:44] <nightviper> !blackbox
[21:45] <MrCeeIII> ok let me try somthing else... is there a terminal way to see what programs are installed?
[21:45] <k1l> nightviper: well, better ask the blackbox support about that. this is ubuntu support
[21:45] <MrCeeIII> ok my question is concerning ubuntu and i have yet to get a response
[21:45] <MrCeeIII> anyone,anyone????
[21:46] <Jesterboxboy> @MrCeelll dpkg --get-selections | grep
[21:46] <MrCeeIII> ---feels skin turning green....
[21:46] <Jesterboxboy> after the grep your search term
[21:46] <k1l> MrCeeIII: yes there are.
[21:46] <TimDix> k1l: Thank you, I'll review. Also, not sure if it makes a difference, but I'm running a three monitor setup here.
[21:46] <MWM> windows can get this NIC to work just fine. Ubuntu... nope.
[21:47] <k1l> TimDix: oh, that could be an issue if the nvidia driver/card is on the edge of overpowered mode.
[21:47] <MrCeeIII> I installed an application from the software center howerver, it does not show in the menu search... why would this happen?
[21:47] <k1l> MrCeeIII: what program?
[21:47] <MrCeeIII> conky
[21:47] <sneakret_> MrCeeIII: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17823/how-to-list-all-installed-packages
[21:47] <MWM> "the system network services are not compatible with this version" ? that is new
[21:47] <k1l> MrCeeIII: well, conky is not a regular program
[21:47] <Jesterboxboy> @agent_white sry i didnt quite understand
[21:47] <k1l> !conky | MrCeeIII
[21:47] <Jesterboxboy> in the ubunutu drivers ouptut?
[21:48] <agent_white> Jesterboxboy: Sorry, wrong thing! `lspci -nn | grep VGA` -- what are the letters/numbers in the second to last field
[21:48] <k1l> MrCeeIII: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpConky
[21:48] <MrCeeIII> whats !conky mean
[21:48] <agent_white> Jesterboxboy: In a console, type what I wrote
[21:48] <k1l> MrCeeIII: that was a command for the bot, but that didnt have info about conky
[21:48] <Jesterboxboy> [10de:029e]
[21:48] <sneakret_> It means "yo, bot... tell the following person about conky"
[21:49] <Jesterboxboy> [Quadro DX 1500] or did you mean this
[21:49] <agent_white> One after that
[21:49] <OerHeks> 2000+ forum posts about conky http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&page=2322
[21:49] <MrCeeIII> k1l: oh ok.. that grep command worked nice.,.. still not in my gui menu though..
[21:49] <Jesterboxboy> its [Quadro DX 1500] [10de:029e](rev a1)
[21:49] <MWM> ! realtek | MWM
[21:49] <Jesterboxboy> G71GL before that
[21:50] <OerHeks> use conkymanager if you *need* a gui
[21:50] <k1l> MrCeeIII: it will never be in your gui menu since its not a gui program to click in
[21:51] <k1l> MrCeeIII: that is the sense of conky. you make a config file then you set it to autostart on the desktop. then it does it magic. but you dont get a clicky gui program with switches and stuff.
[21:51] <MrCeeIII> k1l: how would you know that
[21:51] <Guest75489> hi guys, I would like bind the arrow keys to a combination of keys. For example, I would like to bind the key "arrow up" with the combination of keys "Alt+Ctrl+k". Which tools should I use. I prefer a tool which works in a terminal.
[21:51] <k1l> MrCeeIII: see the help page i posted
[21:53] <MrCeeIII> k1l: working on that now... but it would of been great if on the installation page it mentioned the follow on steps... thanks thus far again...
[21:54] <agent_white> Jesterboxboy: Alrighty! And are both `nvidia-304` and `nvidia-304-updates` installed?
[21:54] <Ripmind> is it just me or does this look like a real mess? http://p.styler2go.de/?33
[21:54] <Jesterboxboy> @agent_white, i think they are mutally exclusive
[21:54] <k1l> MrCeeIII: well, you installed a package. so one can asume you not randomly typed letters to install it so you know a bit about that. if you dont know anything so far there are a lot of help pages to get a overview or detailed informations.
[21:55] <Jesterboxboy> @agent_white but i installed nvidia-304-updates now
[21:55] <freakyy> is there any note taking app for ubuntu?
[21:57] <MrCeeIII> k1l: my friend said to install it.. which i did but i didnt know to look for all the configuration settings
[21:58] <MrCeeIII> k1l: So in the future look for all support on the app prior to installing the package? is that what your telling me?
[22:00] <k1l> MrCeeIII: no. it sounds like you were complaining that you dont know what to do with that package. IMHO its my task to look it up if i dont know what to do.
[22:00] <agent_white> Jesterboxboy: Give it a whirl to see...
[22:00] <k1l> MrCeeIII: like: why didnt your friend tell you :)
[22:00] <agent_white> Jesterboxboy: I still would go through http://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error/141607#141607
[22:00] <Jesterboxboy> @agent_white i already went through that before :D
[22:02] <agent_white> Jesterboxboy: `cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io`
[22:02] <agent_white> Jesterboxboy: The response you get will be a link to your Xorg.error log on a "pastie" site. That way we can look at the logs. Otherwise it's hard to debug.
[22:03] <Chicken_Wrap> Hello.
[22:07] <django_> anyone know about memory leaks
[22:07] <django_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/gKrEmXN3/
[22:08] <django_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/dt6ydaXD/
[22:09] <Bashing-om> Ripmind: Looks pretty messed up to me too . If these filesystems encounter metadata inconsistencies while mounted, they will record this fact in the filesystem superblock. If e2fsck finds that a filesystem is marked with such an error e2fsck will perform a full check after replaying the journal (if present).
[22:09] <Ripmind> shall i e2fsck /dev/sda ? or /sda1?
[22:12] <Bashing-om> Ripmind: I would hazaed as a "guess" that sda1 is the OS, sda2 is "extended" and sda3 is logical as a swap partition . I do suggest running the file system check on sda1 .
[22:13] <Bashing-om> hazard*
[22:13] <Ripmind> Bashing-om: no, OS is mmcblk0
[22:13] <mnemo> habdi
[22:13] <gzcwnk> OS is on a sd card?
[22:14] <Bashing-om> Ripmind: SSD or exteral card ?
[22:14] <Ripmind> it's an RPI2
[22:14] <Ripmind> sda1 is just an usb device
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> Ripmind rasp pi has its own channel
[22:15] <Ripmind> but that is more a linux/ubuntu related issue
[22:15] <Ripmind> just an usb device which seems to be messed up in fdisk
[22:16] <Bashing-om> Ripmind: Will not say .. as I am venturing into unknown elements .. but sda == the device, while sda1 is the 1st partition on that 1st device .
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> Ripmind yes, but, e.g. ARM has its own channel too
[22:16] <Ripmind> yes, i also do not have any other partition on this device Bashing-om
[22:17] <deweydb> Hi, i'm on ubuntu 14.04 and i'm trying to get a more up to date version of gifsicle. When i got it from aptitude it gave me 1.78, but according to this page latest is 1.88
[22:17] <deweydb> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gifsicle
[22:17] <deweydb> how do i get a newer version?
[22:18] <OerHeks> deweydb, upgrade to wily
[22:18] <deweydb> wily = 15.04?
[22:19] <OerHeks> no, vivid would give you 1.86-1
[22:20] <k1l> deweydb: wily is 15.10
[22:21] <deweydb> oh wily is 15.10. hmm i was told not to switch to those branches, because it makes it harder to upgrade later when you're not on LTS
[22:22] <emitattuo> deweydb, it does?
[22:22] <deweydb> i dunno, i was on 12.04 ack in the day, and went to 12.10 and was stuck there forever, could never get my ass to 13.04
[22:22] <deweydb> and everyone told me i was an idiot for going to 12.10
[22:23] <deweydb> maybe i'm just an idiot in general
[22:23] <deweydb> :)
[22:23] <k1l> deweydb: upgrades get automated testing for the original ubuntu packages.
[22:24] <k1l> so if you dont have hardware issues or use 3rd party stuff then upgrades are known to work. the issue is, that on non-LTS you need to upgrade every 6 months now.
[22:25] <deweydb> ok. well i am a bit worried about other packages getting upgraded in the process. what are my alternatives, instead of upgreading the os, and all the packages, can i just install from source or something?
[22:25] <deweydb> i'm only using this box temporarily as a tool for maybe the next few days. then its going to get deleted.
[22:26] <deweydb> just need to fix that one package ot a more up to date version.
[22:26] <deweydb> i know i sound stubborn, but i'm worried that other packages getting upgraded might have breaking changes to the app i'm running.
[22:26] <deweydb> (i didn't write the app, but its got millions of dependancies)
[22:27] <deweydb> or is there a way to just grab one package from a more up to date OS? or is that a horribly bad idea?
[22:28] <k1l> deweydb: see if there is a PPA for that package shipping another version
[22:29] <deweydb> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gifsicle/1.86-1 ?
[22:30] <k1l> that is for 15.04. its not supported to mix the ubuntu releases
[22:30] <deweydb> ah ok
[22:31] <k1l> which version do you need?
[22:31] <k1l> what is with the version on 14.04?
[22:31] <deweydb> i need > 1.85
[22:32] <deweydb> i have 1.78
[22:32] <deweydb> would this work: https://packages.debian.org/unstable/graphics/gifsicle ?
[22:32] <k1l> dont mix debian packages into your ubuntu
[22:33] <k1l> i already told you what to do
[22:33] <deweydb> look for a ppa?
[22:33] <deweydb> i was looking can't find anything
[22:33] <k1l> deweydb: this is a PPA which got 1.86 https://launchpad.net/~i3systems/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntu-packages?field.series_filter=trusty
[22:34] <k1l> but dont complain in here if that PPA breaks your system :)
[22:35] <deweydb> ok thanks.
[22:35] <utu8o> either PPA or outdated 5 to 10 year old software in the Ubuntu repos lol
[22:35] <anheru> Hi, i need help with rsyslog - after i cleared out syslog file (/var/log/syslog) it's not saving any logs - it's empty. How to fix it?
[22:35] <k1l> utu8o: that is not true
[22:37] <EriC^^> anheru: type ls -l /var/log/syslog
[22:39] <anheru> EriC^^: "-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Nov 23 18:09 /var/log/syslog"
[22:39] <EriC^^> anheru: type sudo chown syslog:adm /var/log/syslog
[22:40] <EriC^^> and sudo chmod 640 /var/log/syslog
[22:40] <Euge> Hey everyone ! Sorry to bother you, I'm quite new on ubuntu. Some hours ago I dit the average normal update asked by ubuntu. Now I've blackscreen when I boot. The output is "failed to use bus name org.freedesktop.displaymanager" does anyone know how to deal with this ? :/
[22:40] <Euge> Did*
[22:40] <anheru> EriC^^: it is work again :) thank you
[22:41] <EriC^^> anheru: great, no problem :)
[22:42] <anheru> EriC^^: could you help me with one more problem - wifi connection?
[22:42] <dcz> Assembly commands mov A, A and nop (nooperation) are semantically identical. Which one do you prefer to implement idle time and why ?
[22:42] <EriC^^> anheru: what's the problem?
[22:43] <Bashing-om> Euge: RE-install the graphic's driver ??
[22:43] <glsmaxx> I have a question about Ubuntu-Mate 15.04
[22:43] <k1l> glsmaxx: just ask :)
[22:44] <glsmaxx> Is there a way to just have the icons on the window sitcher icons on the panel?
[22:44] <Bashing-om> dcz: Sounds like a homework question . rephrase to what can be acceptable in this channel .
[22:44] <glsmaxx> I can't find the setting and I have always just shown icons before.
[22:44] <anheru> EriC^^: it's not working ;p i had problem with random connection lost but i did some changes (turned off ipv6, set AP to wpa2 only, added command line about switch off 'n') which helped for some time, but now problem returned
[22:44] <glsmaxx> BUT, I have never used Ubuntu-Mate
[22:45] <anheru> EriC^^: i had about 10-20 connection lost in last 3 days, and today it cannot connect at all
[22:45] <dcz> actually its , past exam's question
[22:45] <Euge> I thought about reinstalling the graphics drivers but I've bumblebee and it's quite messed up ^^
[22:46] <Euge> Is it the only way I can solve this black screen ?
[22:48] <EriC^^> anheru: did you try to reset the router?
[22:48] <anheru> EriC^^: i did, this is problem of ubuntu because other devices are connected and have no problem
[22:49] <anheru> EriC^^: for example now I have no networks available on wifi list
[22:50] <anheru> EriC^^: after few switch-on->switch-off i have networks available again, but it cannot connect to any (asking for password over&over again)
[22:50] <EriC^^> anheru: to be honest i dunno much about wifi stuff
[22:51] <anheru> EriC^^: that's ok, thank you for help anyway :)
[22:51] <Bashing-om> Euge: Show the channel what the hardware is ' lspci -vnn | grep -i VGA ' and what driver is installed ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' in a pastebin . do not post to channel as the output is long .
[22:51] <EriC^^> anheru: np :)
[22:52] <Bashing-om> !paste | Euge
[22:55] <Euge> I'm purging the nvidia drivers and bumblebee as you suggested
[22:56] <Euge> Should I reinstall everything and then give the output ?
[22:56] <Euge> Or just try if this works
[22:56] <Bashing-om> Euge: K .. be nice to know the release that you are using . In later releases the tools to install drivers are much improved .
[22:57] <Bashing-om> Euge: In order to give precise guidance, I would want to see the requested outputs .
[22:59] <Euge> Ok
[23:00] <anheru> anyone who can help me with wifi problems?
[23:01] <daftykins> just ask
[23:01] <abrakam> how are you
[23:02] <abrakam> i can help your wifi
[23:02] <Euge> Im using ubuntu 15.04
[23:02] <abrakam> i have wifi whith bolocs
[23:03] <abrakam> euge dont use your 1504
[23:03] <abrakam> in your assd
[23:03] <anheru> i'm using 14.04 lts, wifi Atheros qca9565, i had connection lost problems, now it doesn't connect at all
[23:03] <k1l> dont mind the troll
[23:04] <Stouf> hey
[23:04] <Stouf> is there such a script that can run on irc as a bot that announces new folders from a specific directory as they come in?
[23:04] <Euge> You suggest me to get the 14.04 ?
[23:05] <Bashing-om> Euge: Not at all .. 15.04 is good . Ignore the troll .
[23:05] <the_count> Bashing-om: So... I tried out the oldest kernel again and those multifinger features mush have broke; they did not work... Also... Somehow double click broke as well
[23:05] <k1l> Stouf: i bet there are irc bots that can do that. see if supybot can do that. but better ask the supybot guys abot that
[23:05] <Euge> Ok x)
[23:06] <Euge> Well so ! Everything went great I guess. My computer is fine again
[23:06] <Euge> Seems like purging nvidia and bumblebee solved the problem
[23:06] <the_count> Bashing-om: Do you think that a virtual machine would be able to read these multifinger operations? Or not...
[23:06] <Bashing-om> the_count: I do not know what to advise . Like I have said I have no experience with the touch pad .
[23:07] <the_count> Bashing-om: There is something funny going on with the software though... Or else it should stay constistent, i would think... Maybe not
[23:07] <Bashing-om> Euge: Great .. games ? then often times a proprrietary driver performs better .
[23:09] <anheru> daftykins: are you there?
[23:09] <Euge> I have to install nvidia prime
[23:09] <daftykins> anheru: why
[23:09] <Euge> Switching from smartphone to computer brb
[23:09] <Bashing-om> the_count: All I know is that the device is functional .. the codes are sent from the device, along the way to the target they are not translated .
[23:09] <anheru> daftykins: i was hoping you can help me with wifi
[23:09] <daftykins> why pick on me specifically?
[23:10] <anheru> daftykins: cuz you are best in here now ;d
[23:10] <daftykins> nah.
[23:10] <daftykins> i know nothing about that atheros device; reminds me of killer wireless though
[23:10] <anheru> daftykins: cmn, dont be shy :) u r
[23:10] <daftykins> well done, you're now ignored
[23:10] <the_count> anheru: Bashing-om vs daftykins vs TJ-, it's a hard on
[23:11] <the_count> s/on/one
[23:11] <Euge> now that I got back my GUI
[23:11] <Bashing-om> Euge: ' sudo ubuntu-drivers devices ; sudo ubuntu-drivers list ; ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . If the system is now clean "autoinstall" will do nicely .
[23:11] <the_count> anheru: Plus all the others who have spent a ton of time bettering their system administration skills
[23:12] <Euge> I have to install nvidia prime and everything ? I'm sorry if I didn't really answer all your messages about my problem, I had some trouble dealing with this on my smartphone
[23:12] <Euge> ok I'll try that :)
[23:12] <emitattuo> What's the best way copy only files that don't already exist somewhere in a destination directory tree (e.g. ~/). the destination files may not be in the same directory location as the source directories. I thought rsync could do something similar, but would I need to find matching files and then pipe them to rsync? I'd also like the files copied to a subdirectory into ~/, rather than ~/ itself. If it's easier, it's OK if the source
[23:12] <emitattuo> directory tree is flattened at the destination. Something like this may work, though when I run it, it complains "/bin/cp: Argument list too long". Alternatively, would some sort of piped find command do the trick?
[23:13] <Euge> do you want me to past the output in private ?
[23:13] <daftykins> !pm
[23:13] <anheru> the_count, well, I was just kiddin, I have no idea who have how much skills in here, i just need some help and it seems that nobody want to help me ;p
[23:13] <emitattuo> Euge, if you're just asking because it's long, pastebin would be better.
[23:13] <the_count> anheru: Just ask your question consisely and nicely and someone is bound to help you
[23:14] <Euge> not that long ^
[23:14] <the_count> emitattuo: cp?
[23:14] <emitattuo> the_count, yes, cp.
[23:14] <the_count> emitattuo: Then what's the problem?
[23:15] <emitattuo> the_count, I'm just trying to figure out how to compose a command that would do that.
[23:15] <Euge> can I paste it here ?
[23:15] <EriC^^> emitattuo: you could get a list of the files at the source and destination and then use comm to get just the different files
[23:16] <emitattuo> EriC^^, that sounds simple.
[23:16] <emitattuo> then either pipe the output to cp or use it as an input file.
[23:16] <Euge> http://pastebin.com/sdXRThKJ
[23:16] <the_count> Euge: If it's longer than one to two lines, use the paste site
[23:16] <Bashing-om> Euge: No pasteing in channel , Use a pastebin site and pass the URL back here , thanks .
[23:16] <Euge> okay sorry
[23:17] <Euge> here is the link of the drivers devices
[23:17] <emitattuo> Euge, even when it's slow here, the bots may kick you for flooding if it's more than a line or two.
[23:17] <EriC^^> emitattuo: yeah, you'd use the command basename to get the filename from the path first maybe
[23:18] <Euge> okay :)
[23:19] <the_count> Bashing-om: What would happen if I upgraded to 16.10 from what i have now... Would that induce more problems?
[23:19] <emitattuo> EriC^^, does cp prefer newline or zero as a delimiter?
[23:19] <EriC^^> space? i dunno
[23:20] <Bashing-om> the_count: Most touchpad issues have been resolved in later kernels .. Be a good test to fire up 16.04 in "try ubuntu" mode and see what is .
[23:20] <the_count> Bashing-om: Yeah
[23:22] <daftykins> the_count: didn't you test 15.10 similarly?
[23:22] <the_count> daftykins: I did not as of yet
[23:22] <daftykins> then i think all efforts are moot
[23:23] <MAxou> is it normal chrome in ubuntu use lot of ram ?
[23:24] <zerowaitstate> MAxou: yes
[23:24] <EriC^^> MAxou: depends on the number of tabs you open
[23:24] <k1l> MAxou: webbrowsers use a lot of ram
[23:24] <zerowaitstate> MAxou: Chrome in general uses a lot of ram
[23:24] <MAxou> 6 tabs
[23:24] <MAxou> chorme use 1Go
[23:24] <MAxou> -_-
[23:25] <MAxou> Ok I should maybe upgrade the ram on my computer so .. have onli 2 go :/
[23:25] <daftykins> you must be using something pretty fat in those 6 tabs to use 1GB
[23:26] <zerowaitstate> MAxou: in Chrome, type Shift-ESC
[23:26] <daftykins> no, just clear your cache and reset your browser profile perhaps
[23:26] <zerowaitstate> MAxou: that will show you which processes in Chrome are hogging
[23:28] <emitattuo> EriC^^, I have a list of files from find *, then used cat to stuff it into a file, but can't get basename to read the file or find's piped output. Info find shows that it supports multiple file names as input, so it shouldn't have to be executed with each line, should it?
[23:28] <MAxou> open a 7th tab my maouse can't move on this computer -_-
[23:28] <emitattuo> EriC^^, I was trying: find * | cat > file.txt;basename -az file.txt
[23:28] <zerowaitstate> MAxou: did you follow my recommendation?
[23:28] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[23:29] <MAxou> zerowaitstate i did yes I see each tab take about 100 mo
[23:29] <MAxou> + chrome 150
[23:30] <the_count> Bashing-om: When 16.04 LTS is released, could I upgrade from 15.10 if I install it to get back on the LTS release scedule?
[23:30] <daftykins> clear cache, close and reopen
[23:30] <zerowaitstate> MAxou: a lot of JS, or a lot of image/video will do that
[23:30] <MAxou> this website kill my ubuntu lol http://www.allocine.fr/series/ficheserie_gen_cserie=12275.html
[23:31] <EriC^^> emitattuo: do you want to keep the directory structure, or is it fine if you just get the list of files not in the source and copy them into 1 dir?
[23:31] <emitattuo> EriC^^, I can lose the directory structure and copy it all flat, yes.
[23:31] <emitattuo> EriC^^, in the case of duplicates, I'd rather they be renamed as backups.
[23:32] <Bashing-om> the_count: Sure .. not a problem at all .. But why beat on a maybe ? Burn a .iso and see if the touchpad works in the test environment first .
[23:32] <EriC^^> emitattuo: find -type f /path/to/source | while read i; do basename "$i"; done > ~/sourcefiles
[23:32] <EriC^^> do the same for the destination so you have sourcefiles and destfiles
[23:33] <the_count> Bashing-om: Well, I was just thinking ahead... I need to stop asking Hypothetical questions...
[23:33] <emitattuo> EriC^^, e.g. /source/foo/file.sh and /source/bar/file.sh would copy as file.sh file2.sh. or something similar.
[23:33] <EriC^^> ok np
[23:35] <Bashing-om> the_count: Only stupid question here is what is not asked . ;)
[23:36] <EriC^^> emitattuo: after you have both files, type comm -23 <(sort sourcefiles) <(sort destfiles) > filestocopy
[23:36] <MAxou> same page open on mozilla i use onli 400 mo ram
[23:37] <emitattuo> EriC^^, Thanks! I'll give it a shot.
[23:37] <EriC^^> emitattuo: those are the files in sourcefiles but not in destfiles, so since we don't know the path just the filenames
[23:37] <EriC^^> ah so ugly
[23:38] <EriC^^> use find to get them and copy to the dir
[23:38] <EriC^^> comm -12 will give you the files are common between both source and dest
[23:39] <Euge> okay reboot done
[23:41] <emitattuo> EriC^^, find: Paths must precede expression /sourcedirectory/
[23:41] <EriC^^> emitattuo: know that it won't copy if you have more than 1 file that have the same name, you'll be missing out, anyways good luck
[23:42] <EriC^^> find /sourcedirectory | while read i; do basename "$i"; done > sourcefiles
[23:42] <emitattuo> Thanks, EriC^^ I'll keep working on it.
[23:42] <EriC^^> np
[23:45] <EriC^^> emitattuo: my bad, find /sourcedirectory -type f ....
[23:55] <anheru> I'm looking for help with WiFi problems (14.04 lts, atheros qca9565) script restult: pastebin.ubuntu.com/13482342/ syslogs: pastebin.ubuntu.com/13483294/
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[12:27] <pirx> hello! this java 1.7.0_85 (IcedTea 2.6.1) that we have in 14.04. Should that take the same arguments that Sun Java does, like this eg? -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote
[12:28] <pirx> i can start my tomcat startup scripts that i used wioth Sun Java just fine
[12:28] <pirx> and port 8010 is open for JMX
[12:28] <pirx> but when i start jconsole, it says that the "menegement agent is not activetaed on this process"
[12:28] <pirx> any suggestions?
[12:29] <pirx> i want to do some monitoring ...
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.591866
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-quality
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[14:13] <balloons> Good morning!
[14:14] <flocculant> hi balloons
[14:26] <balloons> hi flocculant
[15:23] <balloons> bdmurray, morning. Did you want to go ahead and add some tasks for the quality scripts?
[15:56] <bdmurray> balloons: yes, when is that due?
[18:19] <bdmurray> balloons: Can you add me as a mentor so I can add that task?
[18:20] <balloons> bdmurray, yes, ofc. Sorry, I meant to get back to you on this :-)
[18:20] <balloons> the contest opens Dec 7th, but tasks can be added even after that. Still, Dev 7th is a good date to have it ready for
[18:21] <balloons> I've added you as a mentor
[18:24] <bdmurray> balloons: thanks
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.594107
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-cn
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[02:04] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 蔬菜的风趣怨言 : 冬瓜:俺个头怪大,其实内心很空虚,虽子孙满"膛",最终也是被拖到菜市嘲粹尸万断"。
[02:04] <onlylove1> test
[02:04] <ubrl> onlylove1:点点点. 10:01
[02:26] <Niac> test
[02:26] <ubrl> Niac:点点点. 10:23
[02:27] <Niac> ubrl:
[02:27] <ubrl> Niac,
[02:28] <Niac> ubrl: help
[02:36] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[03:39] <onlylove> MangHuo: 早
[03:41] <onlylove_> yunfan: 今天又有人来找我商量vmware的事情，估计我在这呆了一周又要去vmware，还说可能去无锡
[03:42] <onlylove_> test
[03:42] <ubrl> onlylove_:点点点. 11:39
[03:42] <nyfair> onlylove: 牛牛好腻害
[03:43] <yunfan> onlylove_: 那不是挺好的 来无锡呗
[03:43] <yunfan> onlylove_: 估计混着混着就到苏州了
[03:43] <nyfair> 无锡房价挺便宜的
[03:44] <onlylove> yunfan: 更大的可能是去vmware onsite
[03:44] <onlylove> test
[03:44] <ubrl> onlylove:点点点. 11:41
[03:45] <onlylove2> nyfair: 问题是，我不想在无锡买房
[03:45] <onlylove2> test
[03:45] <ubrl> onlylove2:点点点. 11:42
[03:46] <onlylove2> nyfair: 如果哪天去无锡，第一件事是去魔都把你揪出来好好瞅瞅
[03:47] <onlylove2> yunfan: 倒是你，去魔都那么久，见到ta本尊没有
[03:48] <nyfair> 你们什么时候肯用qq，那我就不用上irc了
[03:48] <onlylove2> 我企鹅号好久不用，被回收了
[03:52] <onlylove2> 现在网上的资料乱飞，想知道手机的CPU是啥咋那么难
[03:53] <onlylove2> 有说6732的，有说6582的
[03:53] <onlylove2> 唉，到时候再说吧
[03:57] <yunfan> onlylove2: 并没有
[03:57] <yunfan> onlylove2: vmware onsite是什么
[03:57] <yunfan> onlylove2: 你在帝都工作也没买房 你管他无锡买不买
[03:58] <onlylove2> yunfan: 就是在之前那个疯女人上班的地方上班
[03:58] <onlylove2> yunfan: onsite，就是驻场
[03:58] <onlylove2> 其实我之前就是驻场的，后来改成现在者也
[03:58] <onlylove2> 这样
[03:59] <onlylove2> yunfan: 比方说，我如果去联通onsite，就是我虽然不是联通的员工，但是我有联通的门卡，在联通的办公地点上班
[04:00] <onlylove2> 喵咪咪的，这个副显示器偏色
[04:00] <yunfan> onlylove2: 那这样不可能长期待无锡吧
[04:00] <onlylove2> yunfan: 不，onsite是在北京
[04:01] <onlylove2> yunfan: 无锡的话还是offshore
[04:02] <onlylove2> yunfan: onsite的好处是，无墙，不会像现在这样断线
[04:03] <onlylove2> yunfan: 反正我只要呆在这公司一天，就是做一天外包，这做不长久
[04:05] <onlylove2> 实际上就是，不管是vmware还是pactera，都在往二线城市搬，帝都成本太贵
[04:06] <yunfan> onlylove2: 希望哪天搬到我大黄山 房价5k到顶
[04:06] <nyfair> yunfan: 牛牛快给我带路
[04:07] <onlylove> yunfan: 你黄山不是有oracle了么
[04:08] * iMadper 求去深圳.
[04:09] <yunfan> onlylove: 那个是在当地培训 然后输送人去中关村 额
[04:09] <onlylove> iMadper: 去毛深圳，你应该求remote求wfh，到时候在哪都一样
[04:09] <onlylove> iMadper: 能不能有点追求
[04:10] <onlylove> test
[04:10] <ubrl> onlylove:点点点. 12:07
[04:10] <onlylove> test
[04:10] <ubrl> onlylove:点点点. 12:08
[04:11] <onlylove> 16的延迟……
[04:13] <onlylove> 75了，等下又要清理机器，把这个虚机再删掉还是带走……
[04:13] <onlylove> 算了，带走吧
[04:15] <yunfan> onlylove: 混吧 来江南多好
[04:20] <onlylove__> yunfan: 你给我找个妞先
[04:20] <onlylove__> happyaron: debian netinstall的时候，那个base system里面都有啥
[04:20] <onlylove__> test
[04:20] <ubrl> onlylove__:点点点. 12:17
[04:20] <onlylove__> 吃饭去先
[04:46] <onlylove> 吃饭回来，发现好多个我掉线
[05:07] <yunfan> onlylove: 你让我给你找妞 那不是 以其昏昏 使人昭昭？
[05:19] <onlylove> test
[05:19] <ubrl> onlylove:点点点. 13:16
[05:49] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • ~/.cache 下的东西是做什么用的？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473998 可以删除吗？发现这里记录和许多软件的使用痕迹。 如 ~/.cache/mozilla/firefox 谢谢 zz: waterloo2005 — 2015-11-23 13:48
[05:50] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • ~/.cache 下的东西是做什么用的？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474000 可以删除吗？发现这里记录和许多软件的使用痕迹。 如 ~/.cache/mozilla/firefox 谢谢 zz: waterloo2005 — 2015-11-23 13:50
[05:52] <yunfan> onlylove__: 什么时候来江南
[05:54] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • ~/.cache 下的东西是做什么用的？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474001 可以删除吗？发现这里记录和许多软件的使用痕迹。 如 ~/.cache/mozilla/firefox 谢谢 zz: waterloo2005 — 2015-11-23 13:52
[05:55] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • ~/.cache 下的东西是做什么用的？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474002 可以删除吗？发现这里记录和许多软件的使用痕迹。 如 ~/.cache/mozilla/firefox 谢谢 zz: waterloo2005 — 2015-11-23 13:55
[05:56] <onlylove__> yunfan: 应该没什么希望，不过我以后会去江南玩
[05:57] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • ~/.cache 下的东西是做什么用的？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474003 可以删除吗？发现这里记录和许多软件的使用痕迹。 如 ~/.cache/mozilla/firefox 谢谢 zz: waterloo2005 — 2015-11-23 13:56
[06:00] <pity> 五连发……
[06:05] <nyfair> 所以说没事用linux干嘛
[06:13] <onlylove__> nyfair: 没事用电脑作甚
[06:19] <onlylove> 搬家搬家
[06:19] <onlylove> test
[06:19] <ubrl> onlylove:点点点. 14:16
[06:25] <MangHuo> test
[06:25] <ubrl> MangHuo:点点点. 14:22
[06:33] <yunfan> MangHuo: 你们那水可挖好了
[06:36] <MangHuo> yunfan: 好了呢
[06:36] <MangHuo> yunfan: 不过要好多钱才给接
[06:41] <yunfan> MangHuo: 初装费？ 这不是你们当地人出工的么
[06:42] <MangHuo> yunfan: 不知道
[06:42] <MangHuo> yunfan: 反正一家要 3000
[06:43] <Freebuilder> 装什么？
[06:43] <Freebuilder> 天然气？
[06:44] <MangHuo> Freebuilder: 自来水啊
[06:47] <yunfan> MangHuo: 倒也不多 不过就是黑得很
[06:47] <yunfan> MangHuo: 但是考虑到你们那连自来水都不供应 跟这比是小黑了 想起我们当初装电话 初装费也要3k
[06:47] <Freebuilder> 农村？
[06:48] <Freebuilder> 原本没水管的郊区？
[06:52] <onlylove> 连接都花了这么久
[06:58] <andyhuzhill> 有谁知道 forum.ubuntu.com.cn 是什么网站么? 刚刚进了一个链接 结果connection-reset 我还以为ubunutu中文论坛被墙了
[07:02] <andyhuzhill> Hello, everyone. I am compiling a program using gcc 4.5.3 and I got a warning " the address of 'xxx' will always evaluate as 'true'". How can I get rid of it?
[07:03] <Freebuilder> andyhuzhill, 连这个你都不知道？
[07:03] <Freebuilder> andyhuzhill, Ubuntu 中文论坛两个域名
[07:04] <andyhuzhill> .com.cn 我这打不开
[07:04] <Freebuilder> 我也打不开
[07:06] <andyhuzhill> 在有的频道发言, 会回一句 Cannot send to channel 是什么意思? 没有发言的权限么?
[07:07] <Freebuilder> 未知
[07:08] <andyhuzhill> 有人做过 在项目中消除所有警告么? 遇到过 the address of 'xxx' will always evaluate as 'true' 么?
[07:13] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 10.04 LTS • 求助：ubuntu server 14.04 安装mysql-server 导致系统开关机命令“失踪"! http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474004 我在vmware 11.0中安装ubuntu server 14.04，2核4G内存，磁盘分配按照系统默认的分配方式。 开机后只配置了apt，添加了163的源，启动了开机登录root 然后在使用apt
[07:13] <^k^> ─> -get安装mysql的时候出现了问题： /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d: 1: /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d: /sbin/runlevel: not found …
[07:17] <onlylove_> yunfan: python还没捂热，就又要用回java了
[07:21] <iMadper> onlylove_: 常见语言都很容易学会的
[07:21] <iMadper> onlylove_: 除了python
[07:21] <Freebuilder> https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=35684256138&ali_refid=a3_420434_1006:1103331197:N:%E7%94%B5%E5%8A%9B%E7%8C%AB:3f7cd0a619d36dce6bddc66b98d70d56&ali_trackid=1_3f7cd0a619d36dce6bddc66b98d70d56&spm=a230r.1.0.0.flx4OW&mt=&ali_refid=a3_420434_1006:1103331197:N:%E7%94%B5%E5%8A%9B%E7%8C%AB:3f7cd0a619d36dce6bddc66b98d70d56&ali_trackid=1_3f7cd0a619d36dce6bddc66b98d70d56&spm=a230r.1.0.0.flx4OW
[07:21] <ubrl> Freebuilder: ⇪ 猛货 高端 全新工程级 电信IPTV监控组网高清200M高速有线电力猫-淘宝网全球站 pp: ¥ 66.40
[07:22] <iMadper> 不行的, 电力猫没那么好用.
[07:24] <Freebuilder> iMadper, 可视门铃，楼房七层，你有何建议？
[07:25] <iMadper> Freebuilder: 没有...
[07:25] <iMadper> Freebuilder: 七层.. 你家好大
[07:25] <Freebuilder> 我家只有一层
[07:25] <iMadper> 一层也好大...
[07:25] <iMadper> 我家也就一间...
[07:26] <Freebuilder> 每层都拉网线到一楼，有点二
[07:26] <Freebuilder> wifi 作用距太短，楼梯台阶里面都是钢筋
[07:26] <iMadper> Freebuilder: 不啊, 本来就应该每层拉网线的啊
[07:27] <Freebuilder> 要是一条网线可以做总线就好了
[07:28] <Freebuilder> 原来用的是对讲门铃，只有一条电话线做总线
[07:34] <longlonggao> nyfair: 牛牛，我想玩岛国游戏，需要岛国手机号怎么办呀
[07:34] <nyfair> longlonggao: 用line钓鱼
[07:35] <longlonggao> nyfair: 钓鱼是啥意思？
[07:35] <longlonggao> 让岛国人替我接收手机验证？
[07:38] <nyfair> longlonggao: 屁大点事，什么游戏？
[07:39] <longlonggao> nyfair: 阿拉德战记
[07:40] <nyfair> longlonggao: 无聊，不是有国服么，玩原版去棒子服
[07:41] <longlonggao> nyfair: 棒子要身份证吧，更难搞
[07:41] <nyfair> longlonggao: 淘宝1块1个
[07:41] <longlonggao> nyfair: 关键是没棒子的服务器
[07:41] <nyfair> 国服有啥不好
[07:45] <longlonggao> nyfair: 待接收国际短信的云平台的什么的有推荐的没？
[07:45] * yurakucho 要写C++ 想死...
[07:47] <cherrot> yurakucho, 点个赞
[07:47] <yurakucho> cherrot: 我不会啊
[07:47] <yurakucho> cherrot: 还要结对编程
[07:47] <cherrot> yurakucho, 我也不会啊
[07:47] <yurakucho> cherrot: 简直崩溃
[07:48] <cherrot> yurakucho, 是和程序员鼓励师结对咩
[07:49] <yurakucho> yurakucho: 看了一会儿同事的cpp代码, 注意力全被混用tab空格, 行尾空格, 多个空行, 缺少空行等等吸引....
[07:49] <cherrot> yurakucho, 重度代码洁癖 没得治
[07:49] <yurakucho> cherrot: ^ 我司R&D只有开发岗, 没有鼓励师
[07:49] <nyfair> yurakucho: 来看看三哥写的SAS
[07:51] <yurakucho> cherrot: 你的照片拍得真的是太棒了
[07:51] <yurakucho> nyfair: 牛牛, 包养我!
[07:51] <cherrot> yurakucho, 然而依然没有妹子
[07:51] * cherrot 手机貌似成功避税 开心
[07:52] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[07:53] * yurakucho 见面分一半
[07:55] <iMadper> yurakucho: 膜拜c++ guru.
[07:55] <yurakucho> iMadper: 快哭了
[07:55] <iMadper> yurakucho: 膜拜.
[07:55] <iMadper> yurakucho: 真心话.
[07:56] <iMadper> yurakucho: 我觉得常见语言里面最难的两个, c++ / python.
[07:56] <longlonggao> nyfair: 牛牛现在在玩啥游戏
[07:57] * yurakucho http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1421668/c-tutorial-for-experienced-c-programmer
[07:57] <iMadper> yurakucho: 拜c++ guru
[07:58] <iMadper> yurakucho: 你这职业道路真是越走越宽啊
[07:58] <^k^> iMadper: ok yurakucho => 拜c++ guru
[07:58] <yurakucho> iMadper: 别埋汰我了
[07:58] <iMadper> yurakucho: 真心的
[07:58] <Freebuilder> 还是拉线吧，搞个八口交换机放四楼，这样，七层楼只要 12 个单位长的网线
[07:58] <yurakucho> yurakucho: 拜高帅穷
[07:58] <^k^> yurakucho: ok yurakucho => 拜高帅穷
[07:58] <iMadper> yurakucho: 你想想, c++/分布式/数据存储 这么多容易找工作的方向啊
[07:59] <yurakucho> iMadper: 为了钱 忍了
[07:59] <iMadper> yurakucho: 当然了, 钱啊
[07:59] <iMadper> yurakucho: 钱给的多, 让我学啥语言我就学啥语言. 真心话.
[08:00] <longlonggao> 牛牛， chromium cpu经常100%怎么办？
[08:00] <yurakucho> iMadper: 我的角度是不学就事业 所以让我学啥就学啥
[08:00] <iMadper> ...
[08:02] <iMadper> yurakucho: 牛牛又自黑
[08:02] <iMadper> yurakucho: c++赛高
[08:03] <iMadper> yurakucho: 其实c++14开始, 已经是个易学易用的语言了. 只不过太多历史遗留代码用的是老旧的c++特性...
[08:23] <iMadper> MangHuo: http://www.amazon.com/Cloud-Personal-Network-Attached-Storage/dp/B00EVVGAD0/?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&t=nhqzi-20&tag=nhqzi-20
[08:23] <ubrl> iMadper: ⇪ Amazon.com: WD 4TB My Cloud Personal Network Attached Storage - NAS - WDBCTL0040HWT-NESN: Computers & Accessories
[08:34] <happyaron> onlylove: 除了多个exim之外我觉得就是个正常可用的系统，非常适合基于它定制
[08:35] <onlylove> happyaron: 不止吧，比方说dnsutils bash-completion
[08:35] <onlylove> happyaron: 还是因为我没网络的原因？
[08:35] <onlylove> test
[08:35] <ubrl> onlylove:点点点. 16:32
[08:36] <onlylove> happyaron: 我现在只有一个2G的工作机了，这下坑了，连vm都不敢开了
[08:42] <onlylove> test
[08:42] <ubrl> onlylove:点点点. 16:39
[08:43] <onlylove> 以后得戒IRC了，这机器资源紧张啊……
[08:44] <onlylove> 我就想知道，既然是testng+firefox，我完全可以用linux嘛……那个还省内存
[08:49] <^k^> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • xubuntu15.10 USB 无线网卡进入桌面后无法使用，需插拔 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474008 14.04 还能正常使用 15.10 livecd也可以直接使用 安装到硬盘后 网卡无法正常使用，表现为 连接管理里看不到无线网卡 使用ifconfig up down也没用 只要把网卡拔下
[08:51] <onlylove> 真心够了……
[10:00] <onlylove_> 疯了，一连串的exception!
[10:00] <onlylove_> 初始化个static string都能出错！
[10:00] <onlylove_> 为啥别人那能正常工作的代码到我这就挂！
[10:00] <onlylove_> test
[10:00] <ubrl> onlylove_:点点点. 17:57
[10:13] <gebjgd> onlylove, 垃圾代码
[10:18] <Freebuilder> 吼吼
[10:18] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[11:08] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 经验丰富 : 黄球迷:你咋叫王老头去当守门员呢?傻教练:王老头守了几十年的仓库大门,一次都没失误过,经验丰富,所以我就派他上常
[11:35] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • 求助：提示硬盘满了，找不到大文件，如何操作 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474009 大神好： 初次安装系统完后，使用了reaver后提示硬盘满了。发现LOG文件下面，占用空间巨大，却没发现大文件。可能为speech-dispatcher文件夹占用空间大，却提示没有权
[11:36] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • 求助：提示硬盘满了，找不到大文件，如何操作 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474010 大神好： 初次安装系统完后，使用了reaver后提示硬盘满了。发现LOG文件下面，占用空间巨大，却没发现大文件。可能为speech-dispatcher文件夹占用空间大，却提示没有权限
[11:36] <^k^> ─> 进入，请问如何操作。 问题二：如何在终端中切换权限（或者切换用户），安装软件时 …
[11:38] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • 求助：提示硬盘满了，找不到大文件，如何操作 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474012 大神好： 初次安装系统完后，使用了reaver后提示硬盘满了。发现LOG文件下面，占用空间巨大，却没发现大文件。可能为speech-dispatcher文件夹占用空间大，却提示没有权限
[11:38] <^k^> ─> 进入，请问如何操作。 问题二：如何在终端中切换权限（或者切换用户），安装软件时 …
[12:13] <Freebuilder> 吼吼
[12:32] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • umask root默认022 一般身份002 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474013 umask root默认022 一般身份002 有什么意义啊。 root 创建文件rw-r--r-- 目录rwxr-xr-x 一般身份 创建文件rw-rw-r-- 目录rwxrwxr-x zz: 7猫. — 2015-11-23 20:32
[12:50] <^k^> 新 Wine及其分支 • wine 怎么安装263云通信 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474015 公司使用263云通信作内部沟通； http://em.263.net/263/EMdownload/ 我打算在ubuntu 15.10上wine安装windows版本； 在安装的时候弹错； Runtime Error (at 12:776): could not call proc. 无法正常安装； zz: iToday7 — 2015-11-23 20:4
[12:50] <^k^> ─> 4
[13:25] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[13:40] <^k^> 新 Debian发行版 • upgrade时屏蔽某些软件的更新 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474016 下面是我upgrade时显示的信息： Code: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required: lib
[13:40] <^k^> ─> qtwebkit-dev Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove it. Done The following packages have been kept back: libcloog-isl4 …
[17:52] * knownbad 吃着donut.
[18:02] <Paul-Z> 大家好
[18:02] <ubrl> Paul-Z:点点点. 01:59
[18:03] <Paul-Z> portaudio19-dev我想安装这个包
[18:03] <Paul-Z> 可是我必须要删除jackd和jackd2啊？
[18:06] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, portaudio19是干嘛用的
[18:07] <Paul-Z> 额，我想安装pyaudio
[18:07] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, 装吧
[18:07] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, 没有人拦着你
[18:08] <Paul-Z> gebjgd, 可是它要安装 portaudio19-dev
[18:08] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, pyaudio是干嘛的
[18:09] <Paul-Z> 然后aptitude install portaudio19-dev, 说要让我删除5个我还要用的包……
[18:09] <Paul-Z> 让python出声音……
[18:09] <Paul-Z> http://people.csail.mit.edu/hubert/pyaudio/#downloads
[18:09] <ubrl> ⇪ f: PyAudio: PortAudio v19 Python Bindings
[18:11] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, 直接用pip
[18:12] <Paul-Z> pip如果没有portaudio19-dev编译会失败
[18:12] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, For better isolation from system packages, consider installing PyAudio in a virtualenv.
[18:12] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, 写的很清楚了
[18:13] <Paul-Z> 我就是在virtualenv里面啊……
[18:17] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, 既然是virtualenvironment了 直接安装就是了
[18:17] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, 怕毛
[18:18] <Paul-Z> gebjgd, 要删除jackd和jackd2啊，这两个不是python里的东西啊
[18:19] <Paul-Z> gebjgd, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13478687/
[18:19] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, 删除就删除呗
[18:19] <Paul-Z> gebjgd, 我要用啊！
[18:19] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, 反正你虚拟环境 不怕坏
[18:19] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, 那就找别的python库去
[18:19] <Paul-Z> 不是，虚拟环境不是只是python
[18:19] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, 人家说了 让你在虚拟环境下安装这个包
[18:20] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, 说白了 就是删除了其他的包 活该
[18:20] <Paul-Z> gebjgd, 虚拟环境不是python的虚拟环境，虚拟环境pip安装pyaudio如果没有portaudio19也安装不了。
[18:21] <Paul-Z> gebjgd, 安装portaudio19不是在虚拟环境啊
[18:21] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, pip是虚拟环境？
[18:21] <Paul-Z> gebjgd, audiolazy这个库要pyaudio
[18:21] <Paul-Z> gebjgd, pip是虚拟环境啊
[18:21] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, 放屁
[18:22] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, 你听谁说的
[18:22] <Paul-Z> gebjgd, 我还是没明白是什么情况
[18:22] <Paul-Z> gebjgd, 没明白，新手……哪里理解的不对呢？
[18:22] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, pip是什么
[18:22] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, 先弄明白
[18:22] <Paul-Z> gebjgd, pip install pyaudio
[18:23] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, pip是什么
[18:23] <Paul-Z> gebjgd, pip不是相当于python的包管理器？
[18:23] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, 那pip是虚拟环境？
[18:23] <Paul-Z> gebjgd, pip去下载source然后编译，然后安装？
[18:24] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, pip是python自己的包管理器 所有都放在/usr/local/下
[18:24] <Paul-Z> 是啊，我用了virtualenv
[18:24] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, 你用了什么virualenv?
[18:24] <Paul-Z> python-virtualenv
[18:25] <Paul-Z> gebjgd, 不是在/usr/local下
[18:25] <Paul-Z> 是在virualenv自己的文件夹里面……
[18:26] <Paul-Z> gebjgd, source foo/bin/activate
[18:27] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, debian表示安装pyaudio没有遇到依赖问题
[18:29] <gebjgd> http://docs.python-guide.org/en/latest/dev/virtualenvs/
[18:29] <ubrl> ⇪ f: Virtual Environments — The Hitchhiker's Guide to Python
[18:54] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, 看了下 没办法
[18:54] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, 只能破依赖
[18:54] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, 因为dev包的h重复
[18:54] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, 弄个虚拟机装吧
[18:55] <gebjgd> Paul-Z, 要不然就先让它破着 弄完你的东西装回来 或者自己编译放/usr/local
[19:04] <knownbad> 又在出卖Ubuntu。
[19:04] <gebjgd> knownbad, debian也是
[19:05] <gebjgd> knownbad, portaudio19-dev 破依赖
[19:05] <knownbad> 噢，你试过。
[19:05] <knownbad> 回去吃donut.
[19:05] <gebjgd> knownbad, 胖死你
[19:11] <knownbad> 是该运动了。 你呢？ 还是骑单车不带坐垫？
[19:12] <gebjgd> knownbad, 对
[19:13] <knownbad> 真是德国屁眼好使些。
[19:14] <knownbad> 不矫情的汉子啊。
[19:14] <gebjgd> knownbad, 比不得你啊 你都坚持40多年了
[19:14] <gebjgd> knownbad, 我才开始 还是要请老屁眼多指教啊
[19:25] <Paul-Z> 搞定了！
[19:26] <Paul-Z> sudo apt-get install libjack-jackd2-dev
[19:26] <Paul-Z> 然后在安装就好了
[19:32] <knownbad> 没，早用软垫了。 那总痛啊。
[19:43] <gebjgd> knownbad, 你竟然用软垫了 超强
[19:44] <knownbad> 我又不跑高速何必要蛋疼的赛车坐垫？
[19:45] <knownbad> 赛车坐垫对平民来说只是时髦。/
[19:47] <gebjgd> knownbad, 我一直以为你还在锻炼屁眼
[19:50] <knownbad> 是断-链屁眼。
[19:50] <knownbad> 你是一直在锻炼屁眼。
[19:51] <knownbad> 德国街上有你在单车上上下下的踪影。
[20:50] <^k^> kandu: 拜能人
[23:59] <^k^> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • 如何修改dns http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474019 本人使用ubuntu kylin ，不会修改DNS 望大侠帮助下！ 顺便问下 图中的DNS是怎么回事 zz: lwd1900 — 2015-11-24 2:37
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[07:29] <dholbach> good morning
[08:51] <zzarr> morning :D
[08:53] <zzarr> when I connect a bt-keyboard/mouse I get a cursor, it's beautiful :D
[08:54] <zzarr> but is there a way to keep the phone in landscape mode when I activate the scopes window?
[08:55] <zzarr> (it flips to portrait when I do it)
[10:17] <popey> zzarr, i filed a bug about that
[10:39] <zzarr> thanks popey
[12:47] <zzarr> is it possible to run X applications on the phone now? (an easy way?)
[12:53] <mcphail> zzarr: nope. Not an easy way
[12:57] <zzarr> mcphail, but it's possible with the help of a chroot, I know that :)
[12:59] <mcphail> Some of the demos look encouraging, don't they?
[12:59] <mcphail> Seems some way off from being production-ready, thoug
[13:01] <zzarr> I guess you're right, it looks so nice though
[13:01] <zzarr> do you know if one will be able to scale applications on the phone?
[13:02] <mcphail> in what way?
[13:03] <zzarr> I mean setting a none native pixel size
[13:03] <mcphail> you can do this already with SDL apps. Not sure whether you can do it in QML, though
[13:04] <mcphail> I would presume Qt would be clever enogh to support it, but don't know if it is exposed through QML
[13:05] <zzarr> like the screen on my phone is a 1152x1920 pixel, menus in firefox would be very small for a sample
[13:05] <mcphail> The emphasis seems to be on a type of responsive design, rather than scaling
[13:05] <zzarr> yes, but I meant for legacy X applications only
[13:06] <mcphail> would be nice
[13:06] <zzarr> a new modern application should be responsive
[13:07] <mcphail> zzarr: if you get a bq 4.5, you won't have to worry about these high dpi issues :)
[13:07] <zzarr> but I already have a Meizu MX4 ;)
[13:09] <mcphail> Nice :) . I'm interested to see how these X apps will work out, but would expect them to disappoint on a phone with high dpi display
[13:22] <zzarr> why?
[13:24] <mcphail> zzarr: Linux still doesn't handle high dpi well on the desktop, so I doubt the phone will be better
[13:25] <zzarr> Well that's why (among other things) Canonical is developing MIR ;)
[14:58] <davmor2> ahayzen, jhodapp: open music app, select a song, In my case Bon Jovi, Crush, It's my life. It plays! Tap on the back button and tap on the same song, It now plays Bon Jovi, Keep the faith, Bed of roses
[14:58] <ahayzen> davmor2, from which view are you doing that?
[14:59] <davmor2> ahayzen, jhodapp: I am assuming the setup just requires song from the same artist and different albums
[14:59] <ahayzen> davmor2, and do you have shuffle enabled ?
[14:59] <davmor2> ahayzen: no that I'm aware of, but being as I am selecting a specific track I kinda expect it to play regardless
[15:00] <davmor2> ahayzen: an no shuffle is not enabled
[15:00] <ahayzen> davmor2, ok i'll try it out on the bus back, i'm just asking if shuffle was on as that could affect it :-)
[15:01] <davmor2> ahayzen: I tap on the back button again and tap on play and now it plays the song I want again, I assume it was because that song was already playing and has caused the issue
[15:02] <davmor2> jhodapp: ^ so not sure whose area it falls into
[15:02] <davmor2> ahayzen: admit it I find all the good bugs
[15:03] <jhodapp> davmor2, I'll try it a bit later, I'm in a few meetings in a row now
[15:03] <ahayzen> davmor2, yeah its interesting i'll have a play on the bus and report back :-) thanks for the find
[15:04] <jhodapp> davmor2, just keep reporting them to both myself and ahayzen and we'll figure out who's responsible...it's complex sometimes to know
[15:05] <ahayzen> :-)
[15:06] <davmor2> jhodapp: well ultimately it's all your fault now anyway right ;)
[15:09] <davmor2> ahayzen, jhodapp: oh that's interesting I only copied part of my music folder over, so bed of roses is the first song listed in the song list so I assume it is just the first song in the list that it play so it might be jhodapp fault after all :)
[15:09] <jhodapp> davmor2, you wish! ;D
[15:10] <ahayzen> could be me, there could be a racy thing when setting the currentIndex possibly
[15:10] <davmor2> jhodapp, ahayzen: also if I go to songs, select a song so I just want that song to play, if I open queue it lists all the songs
[15:11] <jhodapp> davmor2, if you can add these things to the Trello board card as you find them, then I'll follow up with them
[15:11] <jhodapp> davmor2, yeah that's expected behavior
[15:11] <ahayzen> davmor2, its been like that since forever
[15:11] <ahayzen> davmor2, if you search for a track, then it'll just play that IIRC
[15:11] <davmor2> fair enough seems strange
[15:11] <ahayzen> use add to queue
[15:17] <davmor2> ahayzen: I think we are talking at cross purposes, I mean open Music app, hamburger, songs, select one song, it starts to play, In the player view you have queue in the header if you tap on that then it lists all the songs, I would expect that to only list the song I selected as that is the only on in the queue
[15:18] <ahayzen> davmor2, but all the songs are in the queue ?
[15:18] <ahayzen> if you click a track any where in any model, it always appends all the tracks in the model and then plays the track you clicked
[15:18] <ahayzen> (except in the case of your bug where its not playing the one you clicked :-P)
[15:22] <davmor2> http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/phone-screenshots/video20151123_150323460.mp4
[15:25] <ahayzen> davmor2, cool :-) i'll see if i can figure out whats going on
[15:26] <davmor2> ahayzen, jhodapp: I thought there was mention of single item repeat how can that be done if the entire view is imported into the queue?
[15:27] <ahayzen> davmor2, single repeat is not implemented on the music-app side yet
[15:27] <ahayzen> we are awaiting an icon from design :-)
[15:27] <davmor2> ahayzen: ah that explains it then
[15:27] <jhodapp> davmor2, but if there was a button for it, it would instruct media-hub to simply repeat the current track
[15:32] <ahayzen> yup
[15:59] <davmor2> jhodapp: I assume that the scopes team will need to modify things their side so that tapping on preview for an album will play all of the tracks like it used to a long time ago right?
[16:31] <jhodapp> davmor2, yes, there is a completely new music scope and video scope coming after silo 9 lands
[16:32] * ahayzen wonders if scopes like the soundcloud one will take advantage of the bgplaylist as well
[17:00] <davmor2> jhodapp: as per your request list of issues building up on the card on trello, biggest ones I see to date are the nasty crackle on the lockscreen when the screen dims before blanking, and the album with a single track behaviour
[17:01] <jhodapp> davmor2, crackle on the lock screen, interesting
[17:01] <jhodapp> thanks for detailing them!
[17:01] <davmor2> jhodapp: only happens on lock screen doesn't happen on the unlocked device
[17:02] <davmor2> jhodapp: I'm still going though just thought I'd let you know where I was detailing them
[17:02] <jhodapp> davmor2, which device are you testing on atm?
[17:02] <jhodapp> oh Arale, I see it listed
[17:02] <davmor2> jhodapp: :)
[17:03] <jhodapp> davmor2, and videos of things happening are awesome...you rock
[17:04] <davmor2> jhodapp: it was a bit too in depth to describe so the video made it nice and clear
[17:04] <jhodapp> indeed
[17:04] <jhodapp> davmor2, I don't have an Arale to test with atm, so that crackle may be specific to it...will have to see if someone else can reproduce that
[17:05] <jhodapp> with Arale
[17:05] <jhodapp> davmor2, can you double check that it doesn't happen with the current stable image?
[17:05] <davmor2> jhodapp: what devices do you have I can test on one of those
[17:06] <jhodapp> davmor2, krillin, mako, flo
[17:06] <davmor2> jhodapp: fine I'll spin it up on one of those and repeat
[17:06] <jhodapp> davmor2, ok great
[18:26] <davmor2> jhodapp: so only happens on arale so I assume a driver issue
[18:26] <jhodapp> davmor2, yeah indeed, sounds like it
[18:27] <jhodapp> davmor2, it'd be nice to get a bug filed against that in the right place
[18:27] <jhodapp> not sure what to file it against exactly
[18:29] <davmor2> jhodapp: yeap
[19:43] <davmor2> ahayzen, jhodapp: I think I'm done I don't think there are any more issues that listed in https://trello.com/c/ZbIlG7nr/2505-571-ubuntu-landing-009-qtubuntu-media-media-hub-jhodapp made some notes on the issues
[19:45] <ahayzen> davmor2, thanks :-)
[19:45] <jhodapp> davmor2, awesome thanks man!
[19:45] <ahayzen> davmor2, for "Same single track while playing if you tap back or forward will restart the song playing. (this behaviour in combination with the issue above makes for a really confusing user experience not sure what to do about this)" .. do you mean with 1 track in the queue ?
[19:45] <ahayzen> when you say "same single track"
[19:45] <jhodapp> I'm not able to reproduce the issue that you see in the video, but I'll keep trying
[19:46] <jhodapp> davmor2, ^
[19:46] <ahayzen> jhodapp, the one in the video i was able to get, how many tracks did you have in the songs tab?
[19:47] <jhodapp> ahayzen, ~85
[19:47] <ahayzen> jhodapp, and did you click one *way* down the list ?
[19:47] <jhodapp> not way down, no
[19:47] <ahayzen> try that
[19:47] <jhodapp> k
[19:47] <davmor2> ahayzen: yes so the way I got it was I have a single track I downloaded from an album, You then select albums, play the track this gives you a queue with one song in it
[19:48] <davmor2> ahayzen: that is for both
[19:48] <ahayzen> yup understood i have the same
[19:49] <jhodapp> davmor2, good testing
[19:49] <davmor2> ahayzen: you then get no repeat if you let it play, but if you tap the forward and back button it repeats so it is then confusing as to why it doesn't repeat play if that makes sense
[19:49] <ahayzen> magic
[22:06] <alesage> random n00bish question about Qt: does an item's 'focus' property indicate its "shownness" on the screen? trying to validate that something is shown without getting out my protractor
[22:45] <brendand> alesage, but you don't even have a farm
[22:46] <alesage> brendand, I reckon I do
[22:46] <brendand> alesage, that protractor will come in handy then
[22:46] <alesage> brendand, one step behind you there
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[05:45] <pitti> Good morning
[05:48] <Unit193> Howdy.
[07:29] <dholbach> good morning
[07:59] <seb128> hey dholbach
[07:59] <dholbach> hi seb128
[08:47] <dholbach> @pilot in
[08:51] <seb128> dholbach, ;-)
[08:58] <highvoltage> n/win 21
[09:04] <pitti> apw, infinity, Laney: hah! queue lengths: http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running.shtml
[09:09] <Laney> pitti: nice!
[09:10] <Laney> and shtml> nice too (was away on Friday when you announced it)
[09:10] <Laney> we'll make a web designer of you yet
[09:12] <pitti> Laney: I just added <html style="layout: nice"> ☺
[09:12] <Laney> hah
[09:14] <pitti> Laney: as for reading the queue contents: the administrator UI also just reads and requeues all requests, which garbles their order :(
[09:16] <LocutusOfBorg1> good morning folks
[09:17] <pitti> Laney: I reviewed your britney MP yesterday, looks good now! thanks for that
[09:17] <Laney> \o/
[09:17] <pitti> Laney: please push
[09:17] <Laney> just grinding through email, will look soon
[09:17] <pitti> ack
[09:30] <LocutusOfBorg1> can anybody please retry arrayfire for xenial on amd64 and i386?
[09:30] <LocutusOfBorg1> it should build now
[09:30] <LocutusOfBorg1> and remove powerpc build, it doesn't build anymore in Debian too
[09:30] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg1: done
[09:30] <LocutusOfBorg1> thanks
[09:30] <pitti> well, the retries
[09:31] <LocutusOfBorg1> well, I uploaded a new version on Debian a few seconds ago
[09:31] <LocutusOfBorg1> we will see how the build goes
[09:31] <LocutusOfBorg1> but I need to know if the current version was failing because of underlying toolchain failures
[09:31] <LocutusOfBorg1> so thanks
[09:45] <apw> pitti, nice
[09:46] <Laney> pitti: manual merge proposal request: https://git.launchpad.net/~laney/+git/autopkgtest-cloud/commit/?id=6f74b2a4a718012fa645ca4f78a4557c4f26ad18
[09:46] <Laney> (LP doesn't support MPs for these personal git branches)
[09:47] * Laney cowboyed it already to check it works
[09:48] <LocutusOfBorg1> interesting, the build failed
[09:48] <LocutusOfBorg1> so I'll wait for the debian dinstall and ubuntu sync
[09:49] <pitti> Laney: ok, let's keep that for a while; pushed with a "debci-web-swift charm:" log prefix
[09:49] <Laney> thanks!
[09:50] <Laney> I think this makes browsers re-learn their URL bar entries at least
[10:09] <morphis> seb128, cyphermox, pitti: time to look at https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/522 and publish if ok for you?
[10:09] <pitti> morphis: I'm afraid I have zero knowledge about libhybris and whether to update it
[10:10] <seb128> morphis, I don't think you need a coredev for that, #ubuntu-ci-eng trainguards should be enough
[10:10] <morphis> seb128: robru just told me I need one :)
[10:10] <robru> seb128: nope it's a main package, needs core dev
[10:10] <robru> seb128: trainguards have no publishing power any longer
[10:11] <seb128> oh, I didn't know libhybris was in main
[10:11] <morphis> pitti, seb128: so who can do the publishing job then?
[10:11] <morphis> was rsalveti who did that directly before
[10:11] <Mirv> morphis: for example p + s
[10:12] <sil2100> seb128: yeah, it is, I already tried publishing this silo and failed ;)
[10:12] <Mirv> morphis: sil_2100 possibly soon and I'll probably apply within a few months as well
[10:12] <seb128> Mirv, morphis, I just did it
[10:12] <morphis> seb128: thanks!
[10:12] <sil2100> seb128: thanks!
[10:12] <seb128> trusting you guys that the update is good
[10:12] <seb128> yw
[10:13] <morphis> Mirv: sounds good
[10:25] <pitti> dholbach: btw, I'm handling bug 1510824
[10:25] <pitti> dholbach: (to avoid stepping on our toes for sponsoring)
[10:25] <dholbach> oops
[10:26] <dholbach> pitti, I uploaded it earlier - was that wrong? :-/
[10:26] <pitti> dholbach: ah, didn't see that in the bug
[10:26] <pitti> dholbach: no, it's ok, but I'm committing to Debian and would like to keep them in sync
[10:26] <pitti> but I can still sync after that
[10:26] <dholbach> thanks!
[10:27] <pitti> dholbach: the stable SRUs are fine; thanks for sponsoring!
[10:27] * pitti updates the bug status
[10:27] <dholbach> thanks pitti!
[10:28] <pitti> dholbach: I unsub'ed sponsors to clean up the list (the SRU will keep the tasks open for a while)
[10:28] <dholbach> great
[10:32] <Laney> bdmurray: glib2.0/wily> I rebuilt the source pkg and uploaded it again, thanks for noticing
[11:28] <cjwatson> infinity: Reminder about xenial chroot refreshing
[11:29] <cjwatson> Unit193: Nothing special beyond the reposurgeon docs. Once you're using reposurgeon rather than just fast-export/import, you're going to need to read its docs anyway :-)
[12:37] <morphis> cyphermox: ping
[12:41] <cyphermox> good morning!
[12:41] <cyphermox> morphis: hey
[12:42] <morphis> cyphermox: good morning!
[12:43] <morphis> cyphermox: regarding our discussion on friday
[12:43] <morphis> have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~morphis/bluez/vivid-5.36-upgrade/+merge/278302
[12:43] <morphis> and the result on https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-054/+packages
[12:43] <morphis> which produces now sane version numbers
[12:43] <morphis> from a MP
[12:44] <cyphermox> k
[12:45] <morphis> cyphermox: it currently only adds one extra changelog item "No-change rebuild."
[13:09] <pitti> Laney: aah! "never passed" stuff on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#systemd :)
[13:11] <Laney> pitti: yay!
[13:12] <Laney> and sad that we have this for unity8
[13:12] <didrocks> what is the difference with "always failed"?
[13:12] <Laney> doesn't wait for the test to finish
[13:13] <didrocks> shouldn't it be "Test in progress (always failed)" rather then ?
[13:13] <didrocks> not important, but it seems, this just introduce a difference where there should be none?
[13:13] <tkamppeter> sladen, hi
[13:13] <pitti> didrocks: yeah, that's a point
[13:14] <Laney> maybe
[13:14] * didrocks happy to propose a patch (just need to find the branch :p)
[13:14] <pitti> didrocks: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/britney/britney2-ubuntu
[13:14] <didrocks> pitti: thanks!
[13:14] * pitti hugs our new britney maintainer
[13:15] <dholbach> @pilot out
[13:15] <didrocks> pitti: you should have told that after I did a MP :p
[13:15] <didrocks> strategic mistake here ;)
[13:15] <pitti> dang!
[13:16] <didrocks> heh
[13:17] <didrocks> (but trailing coma at the end of the dict in the code, /me hugs $whoever)
[13:20] * didrocks looks for how to run tests
[13:21] <Laney> tests/test_autopkgtest.py
[13:22] <didrocks> yeah, I was just missing kombu
[13:22] <didrocks> and modified tests pass
[13:22] <pitti> that reminds me, we should probably change that to use python3-amqplib; as that's available in trusty, python3-kombu isn't
[13:22] <pitti> robru: ^ right?
[13:23] <didrocks> (same for python3-mock, it's part of unittest now)
[13:24] <pitti> didrocks: oh? if you feel like it, please feel free to convert that too, that'd be appreciated
[13:25] <pitti> didrocks: ah, that's just in ./tests/test_boottest.py, right?
[13:25] <didrocks> pitti: https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/britney/more_coherent_message/+merge/278312 first
[13:25] <didrocks> and yeah
[13:25] <didrocks> I can change it
[13:25] <pitti> didrocks: wrong merge target :/
[13:26] <didrocks> argh, I used bzr lp-propose
[13:26] <didrocks> so that set upstream branch isn't the right one
[13:26] <didrocks> the*
[13:26] <pitti> didrocks: but nevermind, I can merge it like that
[13:26] <didrocks> pitti: ok, thanks :)
[13:26] <didrocks> pitti: feel free to change to unittest maybe meanwhile? I have the test_boottest failing here, even with trunk)
[13:26] <pitti> didrocks: oh? works here
[13:26] <pitti> what's failing?
[13:27] <didrocks> TypeError: do_test() missing 2 required positional arguments: 'unstable_add' and 'expect_status'
[13:27] <didrocks> I'm on wily though
[13:27] <didrocks> with 3.4
[13:27] <didrocks> (and running using nose)
[13:27] <pitti> wily/3.4 should be fine
[13:27] <pitti> didrocks: I just call tests/test_autopkgtest.py and tests/test_boottest.py
[13:27] <pitti> how do you run using nose?
[13:28] <didrocks> yeah, calling works
[13:28] <didrocks> nosetests3 tests/*
[13:28] <pitti> merged, thanks!
[13:28] <diwic> maybe having a runny nose helps
[13:28] * diwic sees puns everywhere, hard to hold back
[13:28] <didrocks> diwic: ask Laney! :-)
[13:28] <Laney> ah, the bikeshed looks nicer now!
[13:29] <Laney> :P
[13:29] <didrocks> pitti: sweet! ;)
[13:29] <didrocks> pitti: want me to push the unittest thingy?
[13:29] <caribou> Any reason why dh_input high would not prompt for a question during a normal apt-get install of a new package (never installed)
[13:29] <caribou> ?
[13:29] <pitti> didrocks: so, no idea aobut those; if you care, feel free to look into the nose thingy
[13:29] <diwic> "look into the nose thingy"?!
[13:29] <caribou> If I follow-up with dpkg-reconfigure it does ask the question
[13:29] <pitti> didrocks: but converting the external mock into whatever the internal replacement is sounds great (I figure it's trivial)
[13:30] <pitti> diwic: yes, so that it's running again :)
[13:30] * diwic goes gossiping about Britney's nose running and earns some extra $$$
[13:31] <pitti> didrocks: apparently it's mis-interpreting the do_test() helper function as a test ?
[13:31] <didrocks> pitti: sounds like so, let's not bother about the nose one, I'm looking at mock internal, one sec
[13:32] <didrocks> yep, quite easy :)
[13:33] <didrocks> pitti: just last commit of lp:~didrocks/britney/unittest-mock
[13:34] <pitti> didrocks: oh, that was really easy :)
[13:35] <pitti> didrocks: merged, merci !
[13:35] <didrocks> pitti: isn't it? There has been some small interface changes that I needed in my projects, but britney tests don't use any of them
[13:35] <didrocks> pitti: avec plasir :)
[13:49] * mdeslaur hugs mardy for fixing unity-scope-gdrive
[13:51] <seb128> mardy, thanks for that!
[13:51] <mardy> mdeslaur, seb128: yw! :-)
[13:53] <mardy> the funny thing is that I don't use it much, and I wasn't even aware that it was broken :-)
[13:55] <cyphermox> @pilot in
[14:04] <sil2100> cyphermox, kenvandine: hey guys! I have a core-dev-related packaging question
[14:05] <mterry> kenvandine, good morning! Over the weekend, I tried building deja-dup trunk in a PPA, and it built fine, including tests: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/227251469/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.deja-dup_34.1bzr1556~ubuntu16.04.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[14:05] <mterry> kenvandine, so I'm claiming you've got something weird going on. Although I don't know how it could affect your second laptop/new user
[14:05] <sil2100> cyphermox, kenvandine: first, the situation: as you know, since gcc5 some of our CI Train project stopped being able to dual land due to ABI changes (symbols etc.)
[14:06] <sil2100> cyphermox, kenvandine: so some of those projects decided on providing a debian/rules rule that auto-generates the control file and picks the right symbols file for the selected distro, changing the sonames etc. if needed
[14:06] <cyphermox> eep
[14:07] <sil2100> cyphermox, kenvandine: anyway, those are in the archive... but now we have a new project that wants to start doing the same, but
[14:07] <sil2100> I found an issue with it, and just want to know if you guys find this bad as much as I do
[14:08] <cyphermox> sounds bad to me already
[14:08] <sil2100> cyphermox, kenvandine: the new project that wants to do that basically also does the same magic as the others, but besides changing the symbols and control file, it also changes the content's library version (4.3.0 for vivid, 5.0.0 for xenial+) - the problem is, that due to how we do dual landings, both vivid and xenial *packages* would have one version number: 5.0.0
[14:09] <sil2100> Meaning, the package for vivid versioned 5.0.0 would provide the 4.3.0 library in it
[14:09] <sil2100> While the same version (just with the CI Train version part changed to 16.04 as for all dual-landings) would have 5.0.0 in it
[14:10] <sil2100> For xenial
[14:10] <cyphermox> why say it's 4.3 if it's not?
[14:10] <sil2100> cyphermox: well, yeah, it's evil, I didn't like the idea but Steve and some other people agreed on that hack to allow dual-landing for people
[14:10] <kenvandine> evil
[14:11] <sil2100> cyphermox: I guess the reason is, since there's ABI breakage between releases, the upstream doesn't want the sonames to be the same for both
[14:12] <sil2100> So they originally bumped the wily/xenial version to 5.0.0
[14:12] <cyphermox> sil2100: if they break ABI, the so version should change
[14:12] <cyphermox> that applies to vivid too
[14:12] <kenvandine> yeah, i'm not sure i understand how it helps anything
[14:12] <cyphermox> could they not just SRU things ?
[14:13] <sil2100> cyphermox: the ABI breakage is from the toolchain side
[14:13] <sil2100> So it's not something they caused
[14:13] <cyphermox> how so?
[14:13] <sil2100> They still build from one source tree
[14:13] <cyphermox> I think it would be best to see the code
[14:13] <sil2100> It's C++11, due to gcc5 the symbol files changed between vivid and wily/xenial
[14:14] <cyphermox> that doesn't make it a different so version though, if it's just that the symbols are named differently
[14:15] <cyphermox> ie. you still might have new API in the library, it's just that the symbols file will look one way for vivid because gcc < 5, and another way for wily/xenial because gcc >= 5
[14:15] <sil2100> cyphermox: yes, they're named differently, so there's no compatibility between libraries then, right? Since a lib build against one will expect different symbols coming from the library
[14:16] <cyphermox> I mean, there won't be a difference between the symbol names as they are in vivid right now and the new version of that package.
[14:16] <cyphermox> (or what they might have been if the package existed already and what it will now be)
[14:18] <sil2100> You mean, no difference in symbols between compiling against gcc4.9 and gcc5?
[14:28] <jamespage> how big is the filesystem that supports PPA based builds? I'm hitting what I think is a freespace issue in this PPA - https://launchpad.net/~openstack-ubuntu-testing/+archive/ubuntu/ceph-sru/+packages
[14:28] <jamespage> but can't tell for sure...
[14:29] <cjwatson> jamespage: 60GiB
[14:29] <cyphermox> sil2100: what I mean is there is obviously a difference between compiling with 4.9 and 5, but vivid should always compile with 4.9, so you shouldn't have to jump through hoops messing with soname or sover, things should just "work"
[14:30] <cyphermox> or did I get the gcc version used in vivid wrong? ;)
[14:30] <cjwatson> jamespage: it's the same for PPAs and Ubuntu builds
[14:30] <jamespage> cjwatson, okay
[14:30] * jamespage scratches his head
[14:30] <cjwatson> jamespage: doesn't look like a disk issue to me
[14:31] <cjwatson> jamespage: cc1 is being SIGKILLed, which implies OOM
[14:31] <cjwatson> (more or less)
[14:31] <cjwatson> jamespage: is this an extremely large translation unit?
[14:32] <dobey> mwhudson: you around?
[14:33] <sil2100> cyphermox: well, things don't really work, as the fact is: you have different symbols exported in one distro and different in the other, which means that the soname should be bumped
[14:33] <sil2100> (bumped = changed)
[14:34] <sil2100> cyphermox: at least that's what I have always been taught
[14:34] <sil2100> cyphermox: so now, building the same package on two different distros, with the package providing a symbols file - people now look for a way to build those two at once from one source tree
[14:35] <sil2100> cyphermox: since you at least need to provide 2 different symbols files for vivid and wily/xenial+
[14:35] <sil2100> Although everyone doing this anyway changes the soname as they're no longer binary compatible
[14:35] <sil2100> I mean, ABI-compatible
[14:37] <cyphermox> sil2100: it's only relevant if the code in the library changes. if what you're seeing is one distro giving out symbols named in a particular way (mangled some way), and another distro mangled a different way, you still have the same API/ABI, it's just toolchain specifics?
[14:37] <zzarr> hello! how do I avoid this message when building an application for generic Ubuntu ARM? error: Unknown module(s) in QT: bluetooth
[14:38] <cyphermox> in other words, building on vivid or on xenial should work without any changes as long as they're not using magic that is only available in gcc5, provided they just use the default compiler for the release
[14:38] <cyphermox> what you'll hit after that is just how dh will parse and compare the symbols generated
[14:39] <zzarr> cyphermox, did you respond to my question?
[14:39] <sil2100> cyphermox: yes, and that was the main point of doing the hack with debian/rules, but they also change the soname as this was recommended by someone from the ubuntu-archive team
[14:39] <dobey> doko: you around?
[14:39] <sil2100> But that's irrelevant to the original question ;)
[14:39] <cyphermox> zzarr: no, that was for sil2100
[14:40] <zzarr> okey, I was confused ;)
[14:40] <dobey> zzarr: install the bluetooth qt module?
[14:40] <zzarr> yes, but how do I do that?
[14:40] <cyphermox> sil2100: I don't have the context for the soname change, I guess, unless it's to support upgrades correct, in which case what is meant is the name of the library.
[14:41] <dobey> libqt5bluetooth5 - Qt Connectivity Bluetooth module
[14:41] <killall> Hello, i need some help, i have 2 usb devices purchased in diferent times and one works and the other does not work. Booth work in windows. SONiX USB Device in lsusb detects as 0c45:8419 Microdia
[14:41] <zzarr> dobey, I know, but where do I install it?
[14:42] <killall> this is making me crazy i dont know if i have to mod the driver or not
[14:42] <zzarr> in the emulator?
[14:42] <dobey> killall: #ubuntu is the support channel
[14:42] <dobey> zzarr: i don't know how you are building things, but yes, wherever you are getting that error is obviously where it needs to be installed
[14:44] <zzarr> I get the error here (compiler output) The process "/home/zzarr/.config/QtProject/qtcreator/ubuntu-sdk/ubuntu-sdk-15.04-armhf/qt5-qmake-arm-linux-gnueabihf" exited with code 3.
[14:46] <zzarr> dobey, I installed the package, but it did not help
[14:47] <sil2100> cyphermox: well, I guess it had to be done that way in wily, since let's say you have a library foo with an soversion of 2 in wily compiled against gcc4.9, then gcc5 got uploaded and foo had to be rebuilt - without the soversion changing, apps linked against soversion 2 would stop working
[14:51] <dobey> zzarr: you are trying to write an app that uses that module, for the phone?
[14:52] <sil2100> cyphermox: since it all happened in one series
[14:53] <dobey> zzarr: you can't, you'll have to ship the library in your own package, and even when doing so i don't think you'll be able to use it anyway
[14:53] <zzarr> dobey, no it's for a generic device with a bluetooth dongle
[14:53] <dobey> zzarr: but you're building it using the phone sdk
[14:54] <zzarr> how do I do that (it might just work)
[14:54] <zzarr> okey
[14:54] <dobey> are you trying to build a .deb package?
[14:54] <zzarr> simply downloading the code and building it, thanks
[14:54] <zzarr> no, it's installed in opt
[14:55] <zzarr> thanks for the heads up dobey :D
[14:55] <dobey> deb packages can install in opt. cf the "for purchase" apps in software-center
[14:56] <zzarr> true, but so far I've just installed the project in opt directly from the SDK
[14:57] <kenvandine> mterry, no idea what's going on... it fails consistently for me in sbuild :/
[14:57] <dobey> ubuntu-sdk isn't building in an emulator, it's cross-compiling; and the ubuntu-sdk chroots have further restraints since they're for the phone
[14:57] <kenvandine> mterry, i can't look at it today though, sorry
[14:58] <mterry> kenvandine, ok. Maybe I can bug another desktop person and that would be a good 3rd (4th if we could LP) opinion
[14:58] <kenvandine> mterry, yeah... sorry :)
[14:58] <zzarr> dobey, okey, so that's why it's not working for me
[14:58] <mterry> seb128, know anyone that wants to review a deja-dup branch (to drop python2 from image)?
[14:59] <dobey> zzarr: i'd suggest just making your own chroot for cross-compiling it in, or building on armhf hardware directly
[14:59] <mterry> kenvandine, no worries :) sorry it was such a hassle
[14:59] <seb128> mterry, python ... maybe try didrocks?
[14:59] <mterry> didrocks, hello :)
[14:59] * didrocks whistles
[15:00] <didrocks> mterry: ok ok, I'm using deja-dup (and still swearing against bad volumediff sometimes) :p but I thing I owne you that ;)
[15:00] <mterry> didrocks, heh
[15:01] <mterry> didrocks, https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/deja-dup/no-python2/+merge/276875
[15:01] <didrocks> mterry: for tomorrow is fine?
[15:01] <mterry> didrocks, kenvandine looked at it, but saw some weird test failures that I and LP couldn't reproduce. So I'm hoping for another sanity check. Yeah, tomorrow is fine
[15:02] <didrocks> ah, interesting, yeah, will do
[15:02] <didrocks> seb128: there is some vala in this python, want to remind me some Unity0 time? :)
[15:03] <mterry> didrocks, this is vala changes to allow us to drop a python2 package from the image
[15:03] <mterry> didrocks, seb128 tricked you
[15:03] <mterry> not intentionally :)
[15:03] <seb128> didrocks, yeah, like in good old times!
[15:04] <didrocks> I don't see any clutter dependency though, not fully good old times! :)
[15:04] <didrocks> mterry: yeah, seems so :p
[15:04] <zzarr> okey, I'll make my own chroot in that case :)
[15:05] <zzarr> thanks dobey, I have to go
[15:12] <pitti> Laney: ah, did you restart the dbus tests?
[15:12] <pitti> Laney: I think I overzealously killed a batch before, I thought they were still hanging; thanks for fixing those!
[15:13] <pitti> (if you didn't restart them, I will)
[15:13] <pitti> but I need to sort out the "apt-get source needs to download the -release version" issue
[15:14] <cpaelzer> pitti, hi I'm working with autopkgtest for the first time and wonder if there is a way to let adt-run invoke the adt-virt-qemu with -smp >1?. Google neither made me happy about "why not" nor "how to"
[15:14] <cpaelzer> pitti, test can't run in schroot which would be the more obvious solution :-/
[15:14] <pitti> cpaelzer: see man adt-virt-qemu
[15:14] <pitti> cpaelzer: -c N
[15:14] <cpaelzer> pitti, to bad I search for smp in the doc - thanks!
[15:15] <cpaelzer> google needs to learn what I need and not what I ask - so do manpages (or read them from beginning to end)
[15:15] <pitti> heh
[15:16] <didrocks> ximion: hey, not sure if you saw my new PR so that we can ensure a more consistent experience for people deploying appstream: https://github.com/ximion/appstream-dep11/pull/2. Hope that helps!
[15:16] <pitti> cpaelzer: you can also pass through arbitrary qemu options (--qemu-options) for the stuff that isn't exposed directly
[15:16] <ximion> didrocks: saw it, will apply it soon :-) Looks pretty good :)
[15:17] * ximion will work on getting rid of X-Source-Checksum in DEP-11 files soon
[15:17] <didrocks> good :)
[15:17] <cpaelzer> pitti, yeah just saw it as I started to fully digest man adt-virt-qemu - thanks
[15:19] <jamespage> cjwatson, quite possibly (re is this an extremely large translation unit?)
[15:20] <jamespage> cjwatson, how much memory do we give builders these days?
[15:23] <cjwatson> jamespage: 4GiB
[15:24] <cjwatson> jamespage: can you split the translation unit?
[15:24] <jamespage> cjwatson, erm feeling stupid - how would I go about doing that?
[15:24] <cjwatson> jamespage: we've talked about bumping to 8GiB, but it will take a while, and it still makes sense to look for approaches to make the build less unreasonable
[15:25] <cjwatson> jamespage: erm, depends? look at the .c file in question, see if there's some way to split it up if it's enormous
[15:26] <cjwatson> jamespage: may be lots of complex macro expansion or something
[15:26] <jamespage> cjwatson, 11k lines
[15:26] <cjwatson> that's pretty big
[15:26] <cjwatson> jamespage: another approach you can try is to use less parallelisation in your build
[15:27] <jamespage> cjwatson, yeah I was thinking that
[15:27] <jamespage> gonna take a loooonnggg time to build now...
[15:27] <cjwatson> jamespage: well, you could try initially just dropping it to 2
[16:16] <mapreri> can somebody explain me why this is not building? the b-d it's complaining about looks available to me.. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/squashfs-tools/1:4.3-3
[16:20] <pitti> Section: universe/libdevel
[16:20] <seb128> mapreri, that package is in main
[16:20] <seb128> it can't use a build-depends in universe
[16:20] <pitti> mapreri: liblz4-dev is in universe
[16:21] <mapreri> ok, i got fooled by the "main" label on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lz4/0.0~r131-1 ..
[16:21] <pitti> can't this use lzma?
[16:22] <mapreri> no idea, i've no releshionship with it other than being involved on a reverse of a reverse of a reverse dep :)
[16:23] <mapreri> but the why there is a "component: main" in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lz4/0.0~r131-1 ... :S
[16:26] <infinity> mapreri: LP display misfeature. It came from main in Debian. If you look at the publishing info on the right, is says universe.
[16:26] <infinity> s/is says/it says/
[16:28] <mapreri> yeah, i figured.. that's confusing, but anyway.. yes guess squashfs-tools can be built without lz4, removing support for it; it got added some releases ago, but it's an optional flag in d/rules
[16:30] <cjwatson> misfeature> oh, I missed a bit when I tried to remove that from the UI.
[16:39] <pitti> cjwatson: hm, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+queue?queue_state=0 lost its components/section displays
[16:39] <pitti> worth a bug report, or known already?
[16:40] <cjwatson> pitti: expand the items
[16:40] <pitti> cjwatson: oh, silly me -- thanks
[16:41] <cjwatson> pitti: you'll see the component/section directly on source uploads, but for binary uploads they're per-binary
[16:41] <pitti> cjwatson: yeah, of course -- I was just confused for a sec
[18:12] <robru> pitti: correct that python3-kombu is not in trusty
[20:02] <sladen> tkamppeter: yo
[20:21] <mwhudson> dobey: hi
[20:26] <dobey> mwhudson: hey. i was wondering if you had any idea what was going on in this build failure on ppc64el? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/227153468/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-ppc64el.pay-service_15.10%2B16.04.20151120.2-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[20:26] <dobey> mwhudson: it's happening only on ppc64el on xenial; everything else built fine
[20:27] <dobey> (and exact same code built fine on vivid)
[20:27] <dobey> hoping it's something we can fix easily/quickly, but my gccgo skills are limited, especially regarding hardware i don't have any direct access to
[20:58] <mwhudson> dobey: oh hm
[20:59] <mwhudson> dobey: looks like https://github.com/golang/go/issues/13375
[21:01] <mwhudson> yeah very much like that
[21:03] <mwhudson> dobey: what's the actual care level on this? :-)
[21:03] <mwhudson> we'll be uploading go 1.5.2 within a week or two and i'll try to make sure this is fixed there
[21:04] <mwhudson> dobey: don't you have access to the ppc64el porter box?
[21:04] <mwhudson> oh heh no xenial chroot anyway
[21:07] <dobey> i don't
[21:07] <dobey> well, if i do, i don't know anything about porter boxes :)
[21:10] <dobey> mwhudson: it's not super urgent, but would like a fix asap. any idea on when exactly that fix would land?
[21:10] <tkamppeter> sladen, you are working with fonts?
[21:11] <sladen> tkamppeter: some times
[21:11] <sladen> tkamppeter: when the mood takes me
[21:12] <tkamppeter> sladen, there seems to be used some fonts with unclear copyright in Linux, see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1284215.
[21:14] <tkamppeter> So Hin-Tak Leung, the reporter of this bug asked me to forward this to the font maintainers of Ubuntu/Canonical to check whether Ubuntu contains any fonts with the same copyright problem.
[21:14] <tkamppeter> sladen, so I want to ask you to check this.
[21:18] * sladen looking ... tkamppeter
[21:21] <sladen> tkamppeter: thank you for the heads up
[21:37] <mwhudson> dobey: week or two?
[21:37] <mwhudson> oh i see "exactly"
[21:37] <mwhudson> no
[21:37] <mwhudson> :-)
[21:37] <dobey> mwhudson: any idea if it would be trivial to throw the patch in the existing package and do a quick upload?
[21:38] <mwhudson> dobey: probably
[21:38] <dobey> mwhudson: can i bribe you to do that? :)
[21:38] <mwhudson> depends on how quickly ~ubuntu-sponsors react
[21:38] <mwhudson> dobey: i'm still waiting for my last "quick fix" to get sponsored...
[21:38] <dobey> oh, you don't have upload privs?
[21:39] <mwhudson> no
[21:39] <dobey> what source package is that in?
[21:39] <mwhudson> it would also be good to test that the fix actually helps, which means some fooling around with ppas i guess
[21:40] <mwhudson> dobey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/golang/+bug/1501651
[21:41] <dobey> mwhudson: oh, that upload faild to build on amd64 and i386
[21:41] <dobey> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/226248080/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.golang_2%3A1.5.1-0ubuntu3_BUILDING.txt.gz
[21:42] <dobey> mwhudson: with the unexpected relocation error! :)
[21:42] <mwhudson> no, that was the previous one
[21:42] <mwhudson> i'm fairly sure
[21:42] <mwhudson> and yes, can we get the binutils people to stop changing things please
[21:42] <dobey> ikr
[21:43] <mwhudson> yes, that's ubuntu3, i'm waiting for someone to upload ubuntu4
[21:43] <dobey> oh ok
[21:44] <dobey> infinity, slangasek: ^^ can one of you sponsor the latest patch on bug #1501651 please?
[22:35] <slangasek> dobey, mwhudson, infinity: done
[22:35] <mwhudson> slangasek: thanks!
[22:35] <Unit193> slangasek: Is it the weekend yet? :)
[22:36] <dobey> thanks!
[22:37] <sarnold> Unit193: .. it's like you can read minds :)
[22:37] <Unit193> sarnold: I can't even read my own mind...
[22:37] <sarnold> hehe
[22:44] <mwhudson> slangasek: whaat https://launchpadlibrarian.net/227405312/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.golang_2%3A1.5.1-0ubuntu4_BUILDING.txt.gz
[22:45] <mwhudson> specifically "E: Failed to fetch http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gettext/libasprintf0v5_0.19.4-1ubuntu3_amd64.deb Temporary failure resolving 'ftpmaster.internal'
[22:45] <mwhudson> "
[22:45] <mwhudson> i guess that means retry?
[22:45] <MrBIOS> lols
[22:46] <cjwatson> mwhudson: yes, must have been temporary network trouble particularly given that subsequent fetches succeeded
[22:46] <mwhudson> can someone hit retry on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/golang/2:1.5.1-0ubuntu4/+build/8335506 ?
[22:46] <cjwatson> mwhudson: retried
[22:46] <mwhudson> thanks
[22:46] <cjwatson> was already going there :)
[22:46] <mwhudson> heh
[22:46] <slangasek> not the first such resolution failure I've seen in the past week, hmm
[22:47] <mwhudson> cjwatson: service!
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[06:34] <Tm_T> Myrtti: is it related to compulsory kickbanning?
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[06:35] <Myrtti> nearly
[06:36] <Myrtti> I was tempted but didn't think it worth the complaints
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[12:56] <jpds> Cool
[15:04] <k1l> !guidelines > mircx1
[15:07] <k1l> !guidelines
[17:03] <krabador> ubot9] (ukikie@ubuntu/bot/ubot93
[17:03] <krabador> what is this?
[17:07] <krabador> !ops
[17:09] <ikonia> krabador: what's up ?
[17:09] <krabador> ikonia: hi
[17:09] <ikonia> hi there
[17:10] <ikonia> what's up ?
[17:10] <krabador> i would know what's ubot9] (ukikie@ubuntu/bot/ubot93
[17:10] <ikonia> it's a bot
[17:11] <krabador> OK, and it need for something particular?
[17:11] <ikonia> you don't need it at all
[17:11] <ikonia> could you give some context to your question ?
[17:12] <krabador> im italian ubuntu IRC op and i find it today in #ubuntu-it
[17:12] <ikonia> are you aware of the ubuntu bot called "ubottu" ?
[17:12] <krabador> noto
[17:12] <krabador> not
[17:12] <ikonia> ok,
[17:12] <ikonia> what channel is ubot93 in ?
[17:13] <krabador> now i don't know
[17:13] <krabador> it's just parted
[17:13] <krabador> from #ubuntu-it
[17:13] <ikonia> ubot is a clone of ubottu the offical ubuntu bot, we use them for loco/non-core channels
[17:13] <ikonia> they are normally requested by someone
[17:14] <ikonia> but if it's parted it was probably a mistake
[17:14] <krabador> OK no problem
[17:14] <krabador> i was only curious
[17:14] <ikonia> not a problem
[17:14] <ikonia> if it comes back let us know
[17:15] <ikonia> (especially if you don't want it)
[17:15] <krabador> no problem for it in the channel, if needed , and official
[17:15] <ikonia> it's just an info bot really
[17:15] <ikonia> you don't need/have to have it
[17:16] <krabador> that's the reason i asked
[17:16] <krabador> thank you ikonia
[17:16] <ikonia> no problem
[17:45] <hggdh> since we were discussing bots...canI have ubot5, or a cousin,active on #ubuntu-br?
[17:57] <Pici> hggdh: going to a meeting now, I'll poke one of the locobots when I get back.
[17:59] <hggdh> Pici: perfect, thank you
[18:09] <bazhang> I read that as 'discontinuing bots'
[23:04] <bazhang> I dont think he meant 'ssd'
[23:04] <k1l> it was more like this one from before: 2015-11-23T19:27:48 <abrakam> fuck your ass
[23:05] <bazhang> stouf looks like warezbot seeking
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.655931
| 2015-11-23T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Myrtti",
"Pici",
"Tm_T",
"Yehai",
"bazhang",
"hggdh",
"ikonia",
"jpds",
"k1l",
"krabador"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/23/%23ubuntu-ops.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ops"
}
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-us-oh
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[17:11] <jrgifford> Great, cuyahoga county sent out the high school security detail assignments.
[17:11] <jrgifford> To the public.
[17:21] <dzho> what does this mean
[17:25] <jrgifford> Means that a bunch of people got an email with a word doc
[17:25] <jrgifford> That details that this particular football game has officer so-and-so assigned for security
[17:34] <dzho> is this a state secret?
[17:34] <dzho> do the officers wear masks or something usually?
[18:47] <jrgifford> It's not exactly secret
[18:47] <jrgifford> but it's interesting that the duty list got sent out.
[18:47] <jrgifford> probably an accident.
[18:48] <jrgifford> but what makes it notable is that it's the 2nd accident to happen to the emergency notification list in the last 2 days.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.658826
| 2015-11-23T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"dzho",
"jrgifford"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/23/%23ubuntu-us-oh.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-oh"
}
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-cm
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[12:00] <ariabbas> .
[12:59] <ongolaBoy> .
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.660936
| 2015-11-23T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"ariabbas",
"ongolaBoy"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/23/%23ubuntu-cm.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-cm"
}
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