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[09:45] <Laney> git> can I make an MP from one "personal" branch to another?
[09:45] <wgrant> Laney: No, you need a project (or a package)
[09:46] <Laney> nod
[09:46] <wgrant> It would possibly make sense to allow cross-ref MPs within a personal repository, but it's an unobvious special case and it's not clear exactly how it would work.
[09:52] <Laney> oh, I said branch, I meant repository
[11:18] <cjwatson> wgrant: I'm not sure I ever understood the logic behind restricting MPs to only project and package branches in the first place, unless it's an attempt at social engineering to discourage people from using personal branches for things that should be more organised.
[11:19] <wgrant> A combination of that and preventing people from doing stupid things that make no sense.
[11:20] <wgrant> People have a bad habit of doing stupid things that make no sense unless you prevent that.
[11:20] <wgrant> Can't really check for common ancestry, so there's no way to prevent anything from being proposed into anything else without the target restriction.
[11:22] <cjwatson> As if that actually prevents it for projects/packages, but sure.
[11:23] <wgrant> It also complicates queries around +activereviews etc.
[11:24] <wgrant> There are no really compelling reasons for it, but we should probably just make project creation less gratuitously difficult.
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2015-11-23-#kubuntu
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[05:40] <rackkin> big thumbs up on the new release...just got samba share working with a win 7 machine in less than a minute....way way kewl :-)
[05:41] <valorie> rackkin: good to hear
[05:42] <valorie> I've not tried to get my machines < samba > windows machine to work for many a year
[05:42] <valorie> because every time I got it working, a windows update would kill it
[05:44] <rackkin> just redid the whole pc....win 7 was buggin....installed win 10 yesterday....nvidia driver failed to install....kubuntu picked it right up though....go figure MS dropped the ball :-)
[05:44] <rackkin> dual boot win10 and kubuntu
[05:47] <rackkin> ne good recommendations on video editor like adobe premier for kubuntu?
[05:52] <valorie> rackkin: Kdenlive gets a lot of good press, even outside of KDE circles
[05:52] <valorie> no idea if it is like the adobe product you mention, however
[05:54] <rackkin> valorie: thanx...i'll check it out
[05:55] <valorie> I've never used it but have met some of the programmers
[05:55] <valorie> who are awesome
[07:36] <lolmaus_> Help! My Kubuntu 15.10 logs me out immediately after login! I tried renaming .Xauthority, .bashrc and .bash_profile, it didn't help. And I didn't find and anything suspicious in the logs.
[07:42] <valorie> lolmaus_: have you tried a new user?
[07:44] <valorie> it is perhaps something in ~/.local or ~/.config
[07:47] <hateball> lolmaus_: did you check ~/.xsession-errors
[07:54] <lolmaus_> hateball: there are lots of various errors. The earliest ones are "cannot connect to X server :0", "Could not connect to display :0" and then "The X11 connection broke (error 1). Did the X server die?"
[07:55] <hateball> lolmaus_: What has changed between being able to login, and now?
[07:56] <hateball> lolmaus_: Changed any GPU drivers or similar?
[07:57] <lolmaus_> hateball: I don't recall doing anything major. Maybe switched renderer in System Settings between XRender and OpenGL
[07:58] <lolmaus_> hateball: renaming ~/.config does help
[07:58] <lolmaus_> But then I lose everything...
[08:00] <hateball> Yeah, that's not great fun. It has to be in some rc file somewhere, that setting
[08:02] <hateball> lolmaus_: I dont recall where it is in 15.10, but can you find the file kwinrc ?
[08:02] <hateball> in 14.04 it is ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc
[08:04] <hateball> There you should be able to change the value to Backend=OpenGL, from whatever you have now
[08:10] <lolmaus> hateball: I resolved by renaming `.config`, logging in, rebooting, renaming `.config` back.
[08:10] <lolmaus> This makes no sense. :(
[08:15] <valorie> lolmaus: it really is worthwhile to login from a test user
[08:17] <lolmaus> valorie: it would work fine, so what? I could also login with main user with `~/.config` renamed, but it doesn't help to identify the source of the problem.
[08:18] <valorie> then you know it is indeed a config
[08:50] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:35] <Smurphy> Morning girls ...
[11:21] <juboxi> G'morning and thanks for the awesomest desktop OS
[11:21] <jubo2> I removed an unnecessary old /-partition and expanded my home partition.
[11:22] <hateball> :)
[11:22] <jubo2> Now I get "grub rescue" shell. It compains starts off with saying "error: no such partition"
[11:22] <jubo2> it wasn't the "bootable"-flagged partition
[11:22] <jubo2> so I thought it wouldn't matter if I remove it
[11:22] <hateball> jubo2: are you using UUID in /etc/fstab ?
[11:22] <jubo2> Halp plos
[11:22] <jubo2> hateball: I dunno
[11:23] <jubo2> Should I boot live CD
[11:23] <hateball> Yes
[11:23] <jubo2> I boot
[11:23] <hateball> jubo2: If you were using old way of /dev/sdaX and removed a partition, the numbers will be wrong
[11:23] <jubo2> hateball: they are wrong
[11:24] <jubo2> I removed partition #5
[11:24] <hateball> jubo2: Anyway, look in your /etc/fstab if it is wrong. Find out UUID using blkid, and enter that
[11:25] <jubo2> hateball so I mount my /-patition temporarily using the LiveCD and do that
[11:26] <hateball> jubo2: Yes
[11:29] <jubo2> mounted
[11:30] <jubo2> hateball: it has UUIDs
[11:30] <hateball> jubo2: Check that they are correct
[11:31] <jubo2> I compare the entries with blkid output
[11:35] <jubo2> hateball: they seem to match
[11:36] <hateball> !fixgrub |jubo2, suppose you could try to:
[11:37] <jubo2> hateball: in the LiveCD ?
[11:39] <jubo2> 'ls -l /dev/disk/by-label/' shows only sdb2 and sr0
[11:40] <jubo2> I follow the instructions to recover the grub
[11:44] <jubo2> hateball: neither option there worked.. #1 installing the GUI program.. I didn't find it with apt
[11:45] <KayEss> I've just re-installed my laptop using the latest kubuntu installer and the regional settings are all screwy. I can't work out how to get the keyboard working properly and the time and date to be readable
[11:45] <jubo2> and #2.. running 'sudo grub-install /dev/XXX' says "Installing for i386-pc platform" followe by "grub-install: error: failed toget canonical path of '/cow'"
[11:45] <jubo2> canonical path of '/cow' .. I have no clue
[11:48] <jubo2> I follow instructions to install the GUI program now
[11:51] <KayEss> What happened to the alternate installers for ubuntu?
[11:54] <lordievader> jubo2: Did you notify grub of the change?
[11:56] <jubo2> lordievader: change of what?
[11:56] <jubo2> now the system is booting to normal OS
[11:57] <jubo2> Thanks hateball. The graphical grub fixer worked
[11:57] <lordievader> jubo2: Of the change in partitions.
[11:57] <jubo2> lordievader: not really
[11:57] <jubo2> lordievader: how do I do that
[11:57] <lordievader> I suppose the grub fixer already did it for you.
[11:57] <jubo2> I change to another irc
[11:58] <lordievader> Anyhow the likely reason it couldn't boot was that grub was trying to find the old partition.
[11:58] <jubo2> I recovered 20GB for my /home partition
[11:58] <jubo2> it will keep me going for a while
[11:58] <jubo2> really would need to remove /dev/sda1 but I dunno how
[11:58] <jubo2> coz it is flagged "bootable"
[11:59] <jubo2> so if I remove it the system will stop booting
[12:05] <jubo2> I'm looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MovingLinuxPartition
[12:07] <jubo2> the instructions are made for Ubuntu
[12:09] <KayEss> Where are the default regional settings controlled from? I don't mean the per-user ones from the system settings, but the ones used for things like the log in screen?
[12:12] <lordievader> jubo2: So?
[12:13] <jubo2> some things in it are GNOME specific?
[12:14] <lordievader> Quickly looking through it shows me very little Ubuntu specifics. Kubunt and Ubuntu are apart from the DE the same.
[12:14] <jubo2> I think I want to do this with Gparted instead of hitting myself in the head with 'dd'
[12:15] <lordievader> Gparted cannot do that. Gparted is a partition manager.
[12:15] <jubo2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MovingPartition seems to indicate it can
[12:16] <lordievader> That is moving a partition on the disk, not from disk to another disk.
[12:17] <jubo2> ok
[12:18] <jubo2> I need to move also a Windows partition to the new disk
[12:18] <jubo2> I guess I should just clean my flat untill I find that Kingston-supplied partition moved CD
[12:19] <jubo2> stupid me to not to put it back to some rational place after using it
[12:52] * kubuntu_newbie slaps kubuntu_newbie around a bit with a large fishbot
[13:44] <olavgg> Hi. What videocard should use for Plasma5? I have a Nvidia 9800GT at the moment, and while it mostly works I have issues when starting/closing full screen applications or when I change the monitor layout
[13:45] <Smurphy> olavgg: using a regular HD 4000 here _> CPU integrated. Works nice.
[13:49] <hateball> olavgg: are you using nvidia blob or noeuvaeu ?
[13:49] <hateball> I can never spell the latter, terrible name.
[14:11] <Yossarianuk> jubo2: if you want to move your windows partition have you tried clonezilla?
[14:12] <jubo2> update: found the Kingston provided partition mover and bunch of other stuff
[14:12] <jubo2> Like 30x 15mg Oxatzepam FTW
[14:13] <jubo2> So I need an MBR from some disk, a bootable partition from some disk that I set the MBR to point to and GRUB there? Did I get this right?
[14:14] <jubo2> The 0.5TB I'm intending to move mu OSes to should prlly be formatted first
[14:17] <adrianalves> hello guys
[14:17] <adrianalves> any workaround for oldsystray in plasma5?
[14:18] <adrianalves> pidgin and xchat wont work
[14:18] <adrianalves> in plasma5
[14:30] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:32] <mparillo> adrianalves: It looks as if Restored Legacy Icons in System Tray Support is coming in Plasma 5.5. There are a lot of work-arounds until then, but I have not tried any of them. I do know that the Dropbox sys tray icon returned recently, so others may also.
[14:35] <adrianalves> mparillo, i just care about pidgin and xchat do you know if those works in plasma 5.5?
[14:36] <adrianalves> mparillo, also do you know if plasma 5.5 is available in kubuntu-ppa?
[14:37] <olavgg> hateball: I'm using the nvidia blob of couse
[14:38] <olavgg> 340.96
[14:38] <olavgg> should I try the legacy driver perhaps?
[14:39] <mparillo> No Plasma 5.5 is not available. The beta (5.4.95) was just released, and it is unclear if it will be packaged, but when 5.5 is released, it will probably be the signature item for Kubuntu 16.04. The source is linked from http://blog.davidedmundson.co.uk/blog/xembed_back and you can look at the screenshot to see the legacy systray icons he tested.
[14:39] <hateball> olavgg: is 340 the latest that will support your card? it is quite an old driver, is why I am asking
[14:39] <olavgg> it's what is included for Kubuntu 15.10 :P
[14:40] <hateball> olavgg: you should be able to get pick at least 346 iirc
[14:41] <olavgg> I have 352.63 in my repository
[14:41] <olavgg> but I'm not gonna try it...because I'm afraid to break the current setup(even if its slightly broken)
[14:42] <hateball> How so?
[14:42] <hateball> I am using 355 from ppa and it works wonderfully
[14:46] <BluesKaj> yeah hateball until you next kernel module upgrade
[14:46] <BluesKaj> yuor
[14:47] <BluesKaj> :-)
[14:49] <BluesKaj> olavgg, the 340 driver works fine if that's what's recommended in the driver manager for your gpu, the issue you have may have more to do with plasma 5 than the gpu driver
[14:50] <hateball> BluesKaj: How so?
[14:50] <jubo2> I reboot to the hard drive cloning CD
[14:50] <jubo2> bbaiaw
[14:50] <hateball> BluesKaj: dkms takes care of that, iirc it even does if you install manually from nvidia these days
[14:50] <jubo2> I gonna see if it has maker and model
[14:50] <BluesKaj> does the ppa track kernel module upgrades?
[14:53] <hateball> BluesKaj: dkms rebuilds modules on kernel upgrades
[14:53] <hateball> !dkms
[14:56] <BluesKaj> yes hateball , but not the versions that are ppa dependent afaik
[14:56] <hateball> My install must work using magic then
[14:58] <Kwaadpepper> Just saying, nvidia driver with graphic ppa does not reinstall on manual kernel upgrade, i can confirm this
[14:58] <BluesKaj> maybe your ppa version ended up in the backports
[14:58] <BluesKaj> hateball,^
[14:59] <hateball> I am using https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa and I dist-upgrade
[14:59] <regedit> hateball: your nick makes me feel much fuzzy feelings of love and tolerance inside, and strong desires to not burn everything in sight at all
[14:59] <hateball> Things work as expected
[14:59] <hateball> regedit: That's nice
[14:59] <regedit> :D
[15:01] <hateball> I even upgraded from 15.04 to 15.10 without any breakage, so I dunno
[15:05] <BluesKaj> hateball, I'm checking out the ppa you posted to see if it gives me a newer driver
[15:06] <BluesKaj> but it doesn't
[15:10] <hateball> The 358 driver is broken btw, if anyone else attempts to use it
[15:36] <jubo2> The disk-mover utility is something called Acronis True Image HD
[15:37] <jubo2> gonna ixquick.com that now
[15:40] <jubo2> I boot to the Acronis and see what it says about my EXT3 partitions
[15:40] <jubo2> hold on EXT4
[15:41] <jubo2> I gotta figure out in which order I should do what so I can bring Windows7 from a 120GB SSD and this Kubuntu15.10 from a 180GB disk
[16:12] <jonah> Hi can anyone please help. my network printer has suddenly dissappeared! Now I can't add it from KDE printers
[16:13] <jonah> tried putting https://192.168.0.100:631, then click the driver and next but the printer doesn't respond
[16:13] <jonah> what is the correct path or way to enter this in KDE?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> jonah, did you try the printer manager/printers in system settings?
[16:15] <jonah> BluesKaj: hi yes that's the one I'm trying but can't get it to work
[16:15] <jonah> BluesKaj: I add new printer, then choose manual or one of the others, put 192.168.0.100:631
[16:16] <jonah> BluesKaj: but can't print...
[16:16] <BluesKaj> don't use the 631 on the IP
[16:16] <jonah> BluesKaj: not sure what the proper path and protocol should be, but it's just a normal cups network shared printer on my server
[16:16] <jonah> BluesKaj: do I choose Manual URI, or Internet Printing Protocol etc?
[16:18] <BluesKaj> jonah, is it a network printer connected to a different pc or connected to your p?
[16:18] <BluesKaj> pc?
[16:18] <jonah> BluesKaj: when I put Manual, then 192.168.0.100 then press the magnifying lens/search it appears at the bottom of the list, I click on that and it does have the right printer there but wants a "conneciton" and in that box it just says :// - I've trie putting all sorts in there as well as leaving it how it is but it won't work
[16:18] <jonah> BluesKaj: to a different PC on my local network. I've got the cups web interface open on that other PC and it shows up there etc
[16:19] <BluesKaj> which brand printer ?
[16:20] <jonah> BluesKaj: Canon MX390 - the driver is listed when I click next, AND it was working yesterday but now has just vanished from the PC that used to use it...
[16:21] <jonah> BluesKaj: just ran dmesg on other PC the printer is on and it says: "[91361.129256] audit: type=1400 audit(1448295322.129:306): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd" name="/var/cache/samba/gencache.tdb" pid=28519 comm="cupsd" requested_mask="wrc" denied_mask="wrc" fsuid=0 ouid=0"
[16:21] <jonah> BluesKaj: so not sure if that is something to do with it...
[16:23] <BluesKaj> is the printer listed when choosing Man URl
[16:25] <jonah> BluesKaj: yes if i put https it is in front of ip, but then as I say it wants a "connection"
[16:43] <jubo2> Ok.
[16:43] <jubo2> The Acronis True Image HD sees the EXT3 partitions nice and fine
[16:44] <jubo2> but the disk in the external USB-to-SATA enclosure is (Mac) GUID and the Acronis does not support
[16:44] <jubo2> so I figure I need to format the drive..
[16:44] <jubo2> and choose a filesystem to format it to?
[16:45] <jubo2> or is that filesystem choosing for the partitions
[16:45] <jubo2> all this disk vs. partition stuff is not intuitively clear to me
[16:46] <jubo2> and "logical volume"
[16:49] <jubo2> fdisk?
[16:49] <jubo2> to format it
[16:49] <jubo2> then move the Partitions with the Acronis and it says it will make one of them bootable
[16:50] <jubo2> and then have GRUB-reloader detect the OS in the partitions.
[16:51] <jubo2> Does that soud like a plan or am I getting this all wrong?
[16:56] <BluesKaj> jubo2, I'm copying W7 from an old hdd to a new one using dd ..I'll let you know if it works
[16:56] <jubo2> Am I supposed to create an empty partition on it or not
[16:57] <jubo2> no.. I just want my /-partition my /home partition and the Windows7 NTFS
[16:57] <BluesKaj> dunno anything about Acronis
[16:57] <jubo2> so I'ma let Acronis True Image do the heavy lifting for me
[16:58] <jubo2> BluesKaj: It doesn't make any sense that you can move and resize partitions in Gparted but not move them disk-to-disk
[16:58] <jubo2> or maybe they just wanted people use dd instead
[16:58] <BluesKaj> dd will
[16:59] <jubo2> Do I want / or C:\ to be the #1st partition ( it is a spinner )
[16:59] <jubo2> and then C:\ last or /home the last with / in between them?
[17:00] <BluesKaj> doisn't matter where / goes as long as it's on the same disk
[17:00] <BluesKaj> doesn't
[17:01] <BluesKaj> but C:\ likes to be on sda
[17:02] <jubo2> it wanting sda does not matter coz it will not be running when the partitions are moved.. and they are all going to be booted as /dev/sda
[17:04] <jubo2> I put /-partition first 20GB
[17:04] <jubo2> Gparted can resize NTFS disksw?
[17:04] <jubo2> *disks
[17:05] <BluesKaj> a bit big but it doen't matter if you have a large hdd
[17:05] <jubo2> doh.. howcha figure the installation process by-the-side-of-current OS would work if Gparted didn't know how to do that.
[17:05] <BluesKaj> yes gparted can resize ntfs
[17:06] <jubo2> then /home I need to grow to 280GB and the remaining 150-200GB goes to the Windows
[17:07] <jubo2> none of this matters very much because I am getting a clean 3rd generation chip system in just a little while
[17:08] <jubo2> I gonna go move them with the Kingston-provided software
[17:08] <jubo2> it looks like a GNU/Linukka, maybe, when it boots
[17:09] <jubo2> nothing will be lost if it doesn't work like I imagine it is
[17:09] <jubo2> taa-daa piippöls
[17:12] <jubo2> having power supplies for both computer has its obvious upsides
[17:18] <jubo2> my /-partition and /home-partition are on a logical volume instead of directly on the drive
[17:22] <jubo2> I'm starting to think to put Windows first
[17:23] <jubo2> popped in the Windows7 containing drive
[17:24] <BluesKaj> prefer primaries and I use 3 different drives for linux. windows and media storage
[17:25] <BluesKaj> that depends which sata connection you use
[17:27] <jubo2> Yes.
[17:27] <jubo2> I am looking to get a used business portable
[17:28] <jubo2> 3rd gen i5
[17:28] <jubo2> instead of this 1st gen i5
[17:28] <jubo2> handles 3 displays
[17:28] <jubo2> handles 32GB max memory the chipset
[17:29] <jubo2> It'd be really really really stupid to put ceilint like Samshit
[17:29] <jubo2> This netbook by the aforementioned (sry, no cussing) Sam.. .. .. crap
[17:29] <jubo2> does not take 4GB combs
[17:30] <jubo2> and it has space for only one
[17:30] <jubo2> Time remaining 1 hour 8 minutes
[17:31] <jubo2> it's growing the NTFS to 428GB
[17:31] <jubo2> gotta shring to make way for the /-partition and the /home
[17:31] <jubo2> shrink it _a lot_
[17:32] <jubo2> It was gonna be either way. First grow and then shrink or keep as is and then grow by Gparted
[17:34] <jubo2> I wish I didn't need windows but there is no Eli Ted Angerous for GNU/Linukka
[17:35] <jubo2> Kingston provided software seems to be running rock solid if HDD activity indicator led and the "Remaining time"-estimate over time
[17:39] <jubo2> then shrink it with Gparted in Kubuntu to desired size and then dd the GNU/Linukka partitions from the other drive.
[17:39] <jubo2> then copy and modify the MBR to bypass the windows loader
[17:39] <jubo2> and instead point to the GRUB
[17:39] <jubo2> or this is my theory. Prost.
[17:44] <jubo2> 54 minutes remaining
[17:52] <Luser-ru> чуваки - какие шрифты для инфиналити юзаете
[18:49] <jubo2> bah. didn't work
[18:50] <jubo2> I guess the MBR was not transferred or reconstructed
[18:51] <lordievader> Does. whatever you've used, copy the first 2048 sectors?
[18:51] <jubo2> with dd?
[18:51] <jubo2> using the bs=1 and 2048 as the.. the.. I don't recall what that was called
[18:53] <jubo2> I thought the MBR is 512 bytes
[18:54] <lordievader> Sectors is not bytes ;) Are you talking about grub or the partition table by the way?
[18:54] <juboxi> lordievader: I dunno. The shit is complicated for my small mind
[18:55] <jubo2> My current career options are studying for a studio technician, a computer technician or a cook
[18:56] <lordievader> What are you trying to accomplish?
[19:16] <jubo2> lordievader: to move C:\ and /-partition and /home-partition from 2 distinct disks to a 3rd one and have the thing to boot both
[19:18] <lordievader> Ah, in that case it is easier to recreate the bootloaders.
[19:23] <valsdav> Hi all!
[19:51] <BluesKaj> well jubo2, dd copied my W7 paritition/IDE hdd perfectly to a newer and faster Sata hdd
[19:51] <jubo2> BluesKaj: I gots to try that next
[19:52] <jubo2> got any good links? I got one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MovingLinuxPartition
[19:52] <jubo2> BluesKaj: I'm thinking of buying 10-pack of these USB3-to-SATA3 HDD enclosures
[19:52] <BluesKaj> sudo dd if=/devsda bs=1M of=/dev/sdb bs=1m
[19:53] <BluesKaj> oops /dev/sda
[19:53] <jubo2> If you wanna buy the stuff cheap, where you buy. That's right, China
[19:53] <BluesKaj> took about 45mins for 160G
[19:53] <jubo2> I gots mi China connection that gets me stuff cheap
[19:54] <jubo2> BluesKaj: why are you replicating the block size specification?
[19:55] <BluesKaj> according to the forums it's best to be specific about block size on both input and output files
[19:56] <BluesKaj> dunno why tho, didn't really seem to make any speed difference
[19:58] <jubo2> can I somehow machine-generate the MBR or whatevs is missing that it gives me the white cursor that will not echo anything?
[19:59] <jubo2> I have the source disk still available.
[19:59] <BluesKaj> best to drop to a VT/TTY and update-grub ?
[19:59] <jubo2> maybe the MBR was pointing to the Kubuntu14.04 I no longer I need
[20:00] <jubo2> and that's why the NTFS partition copy-and-expand gives me the black screen and a white cursor that won't echo
[20:01] <lordievader> Well if you extend the filesystem without telling the partition table, trouble happens.
[20:02] <lordievader> The other way around ain't good too, changing the partition table without telling the filesystem.
[20:02] <BluesKaj> always update grub after resizing partitions
[20:03] <BluesKaj> fooling with partition table on an existing install, say goodbye to existing OS
[20:04] <Yaiyan> That's been the story of my life when partitioning in vm's :/
[20:05] <BluesKaj> vms have never worked 100% IME, dual boot is best\
[20:25] <Yaiyan> I have Kubuntu installed natively too now tbf
[20:25] <Yaiyan> It crashes more than in the vm though, but maybe that's just because I'm using it more
[20:42] <jubo2> Looks like I need to look up on 'pedia or other literature what that MBR contains to make it point to booting the NTFS I wanna boot from
[20:43] <BluesKaj> jubo2, UEFI or BIOS?
[20:43] <jubo2> Uhh.. wut?
[20:43] <jubo2> /dev/sda should contain the 512 first bytes the MBR
[20:44] <jubo2> ... for the system to be bootable?
[20:44] <BluesKaj> boot partition is UEFI boot on newer machines since 2010, there's no mbr
[20:44] <jubo2> UEFI you say
[20:44] <jubo2> I think I nuked that
[20:44] <BluesKaj> ok
[20:44] <jubo2> not sure though
[20:45] <jubo2> I can repeat the steps no probs
[20:45] <BluesKaj> justr checking
[20:45] <jubo2> UEFI boot
[20:45] <jubo2> how do I make a new one?
[20:47] <jubo2> And this documentation hasn't been flagged as 'dated'
[20:47] <jubo2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MovingLinuxPartition
[20:47] <jubo2> I almost followed it
[20:48] <jubo2> re: UEFI boot vs. MBR
[20:48] <BluesKaj> dunno, it's complicated, ask Eric^ ^ over at #ubuntu , think he knows how to set it up
[20:48] <jubo2> Eric^
[20:48] <jubo2> I do that tomorrow
[20:48] <jubo2> I'm on my Nth beer right now
[20:49] <BluesKaj> maybe you should leave partitioning alone then
[20:52] <jubo2> also some dank stuff so all the more reason
[20:54] <jubo2> I'm just blasting mah non-warezed medias and enjoying the beer buzz
[20:55] <jubo2> 'k 'k.. offtopic.. Thanks BluesKaj, I'll ask Eric^ at #ubuntu tomorrow for "How to make UEFI boot"
[20:59] <lordievader> jubo2: I'd grab a windows cd and let it restore the bootloader.
[21:00] <jubo2> lordievader: otherwise a good idea but the bordel they call http://lenovorecovery.com has sent me the wrong disks three times
[21:01] <jubo2> I like the laptop, sorta but that Hungaro-Austria-Serbian cluster-swearword for outsourcing result is not family-friendly channel content
[21:02] <lordievader> jubo2: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows7
[21:03] <jubo2> ctrl-d'd
[21:06] <jubo2> the product key is in the bottom of this machine (stuck to the docking station)
[21:07] <jubo2> I'm just so happy my system didn't crash during yesterday when I expanded the /home-partition 20GB by recovering space from old broken OS
[21:08] <jubo2> and that I got helpe today, here, for the 'grub-rescue>"-situation
[21:08] <jubo2> that resulted from deleting permanently an unused /-partition
[21:09] <BluesKaj> time for other things ... later
[21:09] <jubo2> see ya and thanks again
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2015-11-23-#upstart
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[11:44] <m1dnight_> Hello. I am wondering how I can set variables for an upstart script. Do they have to be in the .conf file?
[11:44] <m1dnight_> (Something like /etc/default)
[19:40] <JanC> m1dnight_: you can source files in /etc/default/ from script sections inside the .conf
[19:40] <m1dnight_> Ah, I will have look into that. Thanks JanC
[19:48] <JanC> if you have an Ubuntu system/VM, then apport.conf uses this
[19:48] <JanC> and maybe others too
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ubuntu-chat
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"JanC",
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"channel": "#upstart"
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2015-11-23-#snappy
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[01:12] <General-Beck> hi2all! How to me to create the folder in a HOME directory of application before its start in start.sh? if i use mkdir -p $HOME/folder i see in log ubuntu-core-launcher mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/folder’: Read-only file system
[07:29] <dholbach> good morning
[08:06] <fgimenez> good morning
[10:17] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Fibonacci Day! 😃
[10:56] <Chipaca> longsleep: moin! did you ever file a bug about wait4network not coming after firstboot?
[10:56] <Chipaca> or was it frameworks.target not coming after firstboot
[10:57] <Chipaca> i can't find it, so i'm going to assume you didn't
[13:00] <kyrofa> Good morning
[13:36] <kyrofa> sergiusens, I'm getting a plainbox crash in snapcraft... not super familiar with it
[13:38] <kyrofa> sergiusens, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13476687/ any ideas?
[14:03] <sergiusens> kyrofa, are you on xenial? if not, add the ppa from the docs
[14:11] <kyrofa> sergiusens, the docs say only if 15.04 or previous. I'm on wily-- should the docs say 15.10 or previous?
[14:11] <sergiusens> zyga, ^
[14:11] <sergiusens> kyrofa, paste me the plainbox error just in case
[14:11] * zyga looks
[14:11] <kyrofa> sergiusens, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13476687/
[14:12] <sergiusens> kyrofa, are you adding stuff, but the traceback, the name of the test is the problem?
[14:12] <zyga> kyrofa: odd, can you tell me if that's vanilla or did you change anything to trigger that?
[14:13] <longsleep> Chipaca: hey i am playing around with your http.chipaca snap and wanted to try snapd with it - though i get a audid DENIED on /run/snapd.socket - any ideas?
[14:13] <zyga> kyrofa: and if you did, can you run ./manage.py validate please
[14:13] <kyrofa> zyga, just cloned snapcraft, installed deps in debian/control + plainbox, and ran tests
[14:13] <zyga> kyrofa: hmmm
[14:13] <zyga> kyrofa: thanks, please file a bug on plainbox and attach this backtrace
[14:13] <zyga> kyrofa: I'll see if I can replicate that
[14:13] <kyrofa> zyga, sure!
[14:14] <zyga> kyrofa: it looks really weird on first look
[14:15] <Chipaca> longsleep: the socket is 0600 so you need sudo for any op for now
[14:15] <longsleep> Chipaca: i am running as root
[14:15] <Chipaca> longsleep: also it'll only work on rolling without more fiddling
[14:15] <longsleep> Chipaca: ah
[14:15] <Chipaca> as 15.04 still uses @snapd, not /run/snapd.socket
[14:15] <longsleep> Chipaca: Ah so i would need to change the aa profile to get it running?
[14:16] <longsleep> addr="@snapd" i see in that
[14:16] <zyga> kyrofa: please ping me with the URL or assign the bug to me (zyga)
[14:16] <Chipaca> longsleep: the .socket file (you can copy it to /etc/systemd/system and edit it there)
[14:16] <Chipaca> longsleep: and even then you probably need to change something in apparmor
[14:16] <longsleep> Chipaca: ok :) - so the snapd profile is essentially broken on 15.04 then?
[14:16] <kyrofa> zyga, will do. I'm gonna toast my lxc and try clean one last time, then I'll log it
[14:17] <Chipaca> longsleep: yeah :-( /usr/share/apparmor/easyprof/policygroups/ubuntu-core/15.04/snapd is still @snapd
[14:17] <Chipaca> hmmm
[14:17] <zyga> kyrofa: thanks
[14:17] <Chipaca> longsleep: what happens if you edit "do" to use \0snapd?
[14:18] <longsleep> Chipaca: let me check
[14:19] <longsleep> Chipaca: ConnectionRefusedError(111, 'Connection refused')
[14:20] <Chipaca> sigh
[14:20] <Chipaca> longsleep: i'll play with it in 15.04 and see how i can make it work
[14:20] <Chipaca> longsleep: you're not the first person to ask me this :)
[14:20] <Chipaca> i think olli was always wanting this
[14:20] <Chipaca> but, priorities
[14:21] <Chipaca> (it might'v been asac wanting http.chipaca on 15.04)
[14:21] <longsleep> Chipaca: cool - i am not so much about the http snap, i rather want to play with snapd to check if i should go through it or rather import snappy directly to read and sed configuration
[14:22] <Chipaca> longsleep: ah! that's an easy one to do
[14:22] <Chipaca> longsleep: sudo /lib/systemd/systemd-activate -l 8080 /usr/bin/snapd
[14:22] <longsleep> Chipaca: ah ok
[14:22] <Chipaca> longsleep: tadaa, snappy rest daemon on 8080
[14:22] <Chipaca> longsleep: *unauthenticated*
[14:22] <longsleep> awesome - thanks!
[14:22] <Chipaca> (you just gave root to the network)
[14:23] <longsleep> sure
[14:23] <longsleep> fie with me :D
[14:23] <longsleep> fine
[14:23] <Chipaca> but, for testing, in a vpn or whatever, you're fine :)
[14:41] <kyrofa> zyga, yeah still hitting this. You want the bug filed against plainbox even though this is in snapcraft?
[14:41] <zyga> kyrofa: yes
[14:41] <zyga> kyrofa: please
[14:41] <zyga> kyrofa: I'll re-assign if needed
[14:41] <kyrofa> Doing now
[14:42] <zyga> thank you
[15:02] <longsleep> Chipaca: regarding snapd, i am retrieving ubuntu-core.ubuntu.config with GET and trying to PUT this back, is that supposed to work?
[15:02] <longsleep> Chipaca: i just get line 1: cannot unmarshal !!str `modprob...` into coreconfig.configYaml
[15:04] <kyrofa> zyga, https://bugs.launchpad.net/plainbox/+bug/1519008
[15:05] <zyga> kyrofa: thank you, I just prepared a xenial environment to run some tests
[15:06] * zyga hopes to get up to speed with go so that he can still maintain useful add-ons to plainbox and checkbox
[15:09] <zyga> kyrofa: wait, wily or xenial?
[15:10] <kyrofa> zyga, wily (the docs led me to believe wily was okay-- should this be xenial instead?)
[15:10] <kyrofa> zyga, I can re-test in xenial
[15:10] <zyga> kyrofa: no, that's okay, I misundertood you earlier
[15:10] <zyga> kyrofa: wily is fine
[15:19] <longsleep> Chipaca: ok got it, yaml format issue. Another question though, probably general to snappy config, how do i delete nodes from the yaml when they there added before?
[15:48] <longsleep> Chipaca: fyi, when using the updated content for /usr/share/apparmor/easyprof/policygroups/ubuntu-core/15.04/snapd from xenial/ubuntu-core-security-apparmor http.chipaca works just fine on 15.04/stable
[15:49] <longsleep> Chipaca: i think i patch the profile in our rootfs and go forward with connecting to snapd via /run/snapd.socket
[15:50] <longsleep> Chipaca: is anyone actually using the abstract snapd socket? If not i suggest the next rootfs for 15.04 should have a fix for the snapd socket policygroup
[16:13] <elopio> fgimenez: ah, another thing I tried last week was to attach the failure reason into the subunit file. But I found that requires a change in gocheck.
[16:13] <elopio> you know, to avoid that StringException that is shown on jenkins.
[16:13] <fgimenez> elopio, it would be very helpful
[16:13] <elopio> I think that will be one of the priorities for the following weeks, show nice errors.
[16:15] <fgimenez> elopio, yes, once the pull requester has access to the results having the failure reason right there would be much better
[16:17] <elopio> nessita: Chipaca: mvo: now I'm getting 401. This one is new.
[16:17] <elopio> hello-world failed to install: received an unexpected http response code (401) when trying to download https://public.apps.ubuntu.com/anon/download/canonical/hello-world.canonical/hello-world.canonical_1.
[16:17] <elopio> 0.18_all.snap
[16:17] <elopio> Has happened like 2 times out of 4 today.
[16:18] <nessita> elopio, myapps is failing atm, we're working on that
[16:18] <nessita> elopio, you shouldn't get a 401 but some 500, you sure is a 401?
[16:18] <Chipaca> longsleep: no, nothing is using the abstract socket. Need to check with jdstrand_ but I suspect we can bump the policies in the next 15.04 (if there is a next 15.04)
[16:19] <elopio> nessita: yup, 401.
[16:19] <elopio> Here's another:
[16:19] <nessita> elopio, what API call is returning 401?
[16:20] <elopio> hello-dbus-fwk failed to install: received an unexpected http response code (401) when trying to download https://public.apps.ubuntu.com/anon/download/canonical/hello-dbus-fwk.canonical/hello-dbus-fwk.can
[16:20] <elopio> onical_1.0.2_multi.snap
[16:23] <elopio> the code says: // try anonymous download first and fallback to authenticated
[16:23] <elopio> so maybe it gets a 500 on the anonymous downlaod, and then a 401 on the authenticated.
[16:24] <elopio> it's a GET on that URL of the snap.
[16:29] <elopio> nop, that's not what it's doing.
[16:32] <mvo> jdstrand_: if I could get approval for "ubuntu-classic.mvo" that would be neat. its a first iteration of the ubuntu-classic mode for snappy
[16:50] <noise][> nessita: elopio: i had a brief spat of 401s from downloads from public.apps.u.c. as well
[16:50] <noise][> but resolved itself
[16:51] <nessita> noise][, we have fixed the store
[16:52] <nessita> I wonder why a 500 from the store would be a 401 in updown
[16:52] <nessita> I should check the code
[16:52] <noise][> not sure, let me know if you need timestamps of my 401s
[16:55] <sergiusens> elopio, shall we wait for your PR to release a new snapcraft?
[16:55] <sergiusens> if not, then a sort of final test run would be good today
[16:56] <elopio> sergiusens: no. There are no regressions. I can do exploratory today and you can release unless I find something big.
[16:56] <elopio> sergiusens: do you have a nice list for this milestone?
[16:56] <sergiusens> elopio, sounds good
[16:58] <sergiusens> elopio, https://launchpad.net/snapcraft/+milestone/0.5
[16:58] <sergiusens> same old place :-)
[16:58] <elopio> thanks.
[18:38] <tsimonq2> hmm, how would I go about contributing to Snappy?
[19:08] <tsimonq2> I am just not finding that clear of information on this
[19:08] <tsimonq2> just how to install Snappy and use it
[19:14] <pixel_> tsimonq2, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/start/ ?
[19:15] <pixel_> tsimonq2, https://github.com/ubuntu-core
[19:15] <tsimonq2> pixel_: that is just getting started and developer/usage tips, no?
[19:17] <pixel_> tsimonq2, yes how to install and use snappy
[19:18] <tsimonq2> pixel_: but what about actually *contributing*?
[19:20] <pixel_> tsimonq2, https://launchpad.net/snappy (lp) https://github.com/ubuntu-core (github) mailing lists https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/snappy-app-devel/ + https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/snappy-devel/
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.700063
| 2015-11-23T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-za
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[06:17] <Kilos> morning mazal thatgraemeguy inetpro captine and all oters
[06:17] <Kilos> others
[06:21] <thatgraemeguy> morning Kilos, everyone
[06:32] <mazal> Morning Kilos, thatgraemeguy
[06:33] <mazal> Oom Kilos I almost did that testing this weekend , but then PS4 happened :P
[06:38] <pieter2627> morning all
[06:51] <mazal> Morning pieter2627
[06:52] <pieter2627> hi mazal
[06:53] <pieter2627> an interisting fund raiser for those interested in electronics https://www.crowdsupply.com/krtkl/snickerdoodle
[09:30] <Kilos> haha mazal you and your gaming
[09:31] <Kilos> hi pieter2627
[09:31] <Kilos> im abot ready to sleep
[09:31] <Kilos> about
[09:31] <Kilos> ohi superfly
[09:32] <Kilos> ai! didnt the pro even greet this morning
[09:32] <inetpro> oops, really?
[09:32] <inetpro> good mornings everyone
[09:32] <inetpro> oh and hi Kilos as well
[09:34] <Kilos> hahaha
[09:36] <pieter2627> hallo oom Kilos, lekker naweek gehad?
[09:36] <Kilos> ek dink so ja dankie
[09:37] <pieter2627> haha... dink so
[09:37] <pieter2627> btw it is meeting again tom
[09:40] <Kilos> oh my
[09:41] <Kilos> ill chat later, need to sleep a while
[09:55] <superfly> naandse
[17:28] <Kilos> sjoe
[17:28] <Kilos> what a busy channel
[17:36] <theblazehen> yeah..
[17:37] <superfly> Kilos: shhh! You're disturbing the peace!
[17:38] <Kilos> hahaha
[17:38] <Kilos> all good there superfly ?
[17:38] <superfly> Ja
[17:39] <superfly> No internet at home, phone line is totally hosed
[17:39] <superfly> Telkom needs to come and replace the lines
[17:39] <superfly> But otherwise fine
[17:39] <theblazehen> That sucks..
[17:40] <superfly> Kilos: How long till you go?
[17:40] <theblazehen> Where is Kilos going now?
[17:40] <Kilos> im waiting for visa to be approved superfly
[17:41] <Kilos> the online site says in can take as little as 12 hours or 2 weeks or a month
[17:41] <Kilos> haha
[17:41] <Kilos> i want to go visit my daughter in aus theblazehen
[17:42] <theblazehen> Ah, nice Kilos. Have fun!
[17:42] <Kilos> and of course her mom
[17:42] <Kilos> ty i will if they get to approving
[17:43] <Kilos> last time they took 2 years
[17:45] <Kilos> my first flight and 23 hours of it sigh
[18:03] <magespawn> good evening
[18:05] <theblazehen> hi magespawn
[18:06] <magespawn> hey theblazehen, whats up?
[18:06] <theblazehen> Not much, you?
[18:06] <magespawn> same old stuff, so not much
[18:06] <theblazehen> cool
[18:08] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[18:08] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[18:15] <magespawn> meeting tomorrow night
[18:19] <Kilos> yes so i hear, ive been out of it so forgot completely
[18:20] <Kilos> hard work learning online banking and online airline bookings and thinking when head in a stupid mood
[18:25] <magespawn> where are you going?
[18:26] <magespawn> if you are booking airline tickets, you or somebody must be going somewhere
[18:27] <Kilos> going to debs and tara hopefully magespawn
[18:27] <magespawn> some of these booking sites would get the most tech savvy of us lost, and the less said about the banks the better
[18:28] <magespawn> cool beans Kilos
[18:28] <Kilos> just waiting for online visa app to be approved
[18:28] <Kilos> but as usual they not in a hurry
[18:28] <Kilos> yeah at last
[18:28] <Kilos> but every day that passes the flights go up by R500
[18:30] <theblazehen> Kilos: Clear your cookies before you visit the airline website again, might make prices go down
[18:30] <Kilos> what cookies
[18:30] <Kilos> ill try anything
[18:30] <theblazehen> In your browser. Or go to airline website in private browsing mode
[18:30] <Kilos> dec and jan flights are outa reach
[18:31] <Kilos> what are cookies
[18:31] <Kilos> the things that remember where you been
[18:31] <theblazehen> Yeah
[18:32] <Kilos> ok so clear history
[18:32] <Kilos> is that it
[18:32] <Kilos> or use another browser
[18:32] <theblazehen> Nah, cookies stay. Gimme a sec
[18:33] <theblazehen> Actually yes, in firefox do clear recent history, then tick the cookies option, but leave the others off, then delete cookies from
[18:33] <theblazehen> everything
[18:34] <theblazehen> It will log you out of all websites though
[18:35] <Kilos> i use opera developer but will install the fox for that
[18:36] <theblazehen> You can also clear it in opera
[18:36] <theblazehen> Just look around in the clear history options and stuff
[18:36] <theblazehen> Or use private / incognito mode
[18:37] <theblazehen> Incognito would be best, wont sign you out of websites
[18:46] <Kilos> i got a better flight with new fox install ty
[18:46] <magespawn> theblazehen: you think the cookies make a difference
[18:46] <magespawn> apparently they do
[18:46] <magespawn> hmmm
[18:47] <Kilos> just cant actually choose dates till visa approved
[18:47] <theblazehen> Yeah, read that a few times before. Kinda shady...
[18:47] <Kilos> im just praying its passed before dec
[18:47] <Kilos> then i leave next cheapflight
[18:49] <Kilos> ill notify before i leave but
[18:50] <Kilos> then might be missing in action for a few weeks, got 30 years of catching up to do
[18:50] <theblazehen> Yeah, no worries Kilos
[18:51] <magespawn> thats cool Kilos, lots of late nights, some wine and music and everything is sorted
[18:51] <Kilos> no wine
[18:52] <Kilos> non of us drink
[18:52] <Kilos> coffe is good though
[18:52] <Kilos> e
[18:53] <Kilos> oh ya maaz has most likely forgotten how to make coffee even
[18:53] <Kilos> Maaz coffee on
[18:53] * Maaz washes some mugs
[18:53] <magespawn> coffee too
[18:53] <Kilos> inetpro coffee
[18:53] <Kilos> Maaz coffee for all
[18:53] <Maaz> Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already. Just type in Maaz coffee please
[18:56] <magespawn> Maaz coffee please
[18:56] <Maaz> magespawn: Sure
[18:57] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos and magespawn!
[18:57] <Kilos> Maaz ty
[18:57] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[18:57] <magespawn> Maaz botsnack
[18:57] <Maaz> YAY someone cares about me too!
[19:00] <magespawn> long way to go
[19:31] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight. ballies need their beauty sleep
[19:37] <magespawn> i am also off to bed, good night all
[21:54] <inetpro> good night
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| 2015-11-23T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-23-#kubuntu-devel
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[08:50] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:57] <valorie> morning, lordievader
[08:57] <valorie> although almost bedtime for me.....
[08:57] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[08:57] <valorie> good!
[08:58] <valorie> getting prepared for GCi
[08:58] <lordievader> :)
[08:58] <valorie> and a week of celebrations
[08:58] <valorie> wedding anniversary on Tues (43 years, unbelieveable) and Thanksgiving on Thur.
[08:59] <lordievader> Congratulations!
[08:59] <valorie> thank you!
[09:04] <yofel> wgrant: thanks!
[09:05] <wgrant> np
[14:18] <adrianalves> hello guys!
[14:18] <adrianalves> any workaround to make pidgin or xchat systray works on plasma5
[14:30] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:46] <soee> adrianalves: installing sni-qt:i386 ?
[14:46] <soee> adrianalves: anyway it will work out of teh box in Plasma 5.5
[14:47] <adrianalves> soee, yup but 5.5 is not available yet
[14:48] <adrianalves> sni-qt:i386 works just for skype not for pidgin and xchat
[16:27] <mitya57> ScottK: ITYM a different ML in your mail ([email protected]). One you mentioned is for robots mostly.
[16:28] <ScottK> I did. Thanks.
[16:31] <mitya57> ScottK: l._a_.d.o...
[16:31] <ScottK> Would you please just reply to it. I obviously can't type today.
[16:32] <mitya57> A bit later, I would do that without asking if I weren't using my phone.
[16:53] <mitya57> ximion did it before me :)
[16:54] <ximion> :-)
[18:36] <jmux> I'm backporting some parts of KF5 from xenial to develop my LO KDE5 VCL backend on trusty. While backporting I had to drop the dependency of kinit from kio.
[18:36] <jmux> Seems it was added by apachelogger to close LP: #1504526
[18:37] <jmux> Problem is kio-dev depends kio depends kinit, but kinit needs kio-dev to build
[18:45] <jmux> For my backport I made kinit a recommendation to actually be able to install kio-dev
[18:53] <debfx> seems doubtful that kio-dev needs kio
[18:56] <jmux> Debian kio packages don't depend on kinit, that's why I choose this solution.
[19:09] <jmux> Riddell: ^^^ see kio - and I have a LO KDE5 VCL backend, which compiles, but currently can't draw, because Qt5 changed from Xlib to XCB (which is good), but will make the porting a little bit harder ;-)
[20:07] <soee> LibreOffice Now Has More Than 1000 Developers Working on It :0
[20:07] <soee> when Kubuntu will have more than 1000 devs ? :>
[20:08] <clivejo> really?
[20:09] <soee> yes :)
[20:10] <jmux> As someone somewhere already stated we have about 250 people active in the last 12 months
[20:10] <jmux> quote from the blog: "After five years and 1,000 new developers"
[20:12] <clivejo> soee: you running xenial?
[20:13] <soee> clivejo: not yet, i'll wait till it has Plasma 5.5
[20:13] <clivejo> I have strange artifacts in my system font :/
[20:15] <jmux> And "git log --since='last month' --pretty=format:'%an' | sort | uniq | wc -l" results to 94, which is still good, I guess
[20:18] <clivejo> soee: any idea whats up with this? - http://s7.postimg.org/idnheyx5n/Strange_Font.jpg
[20:19] <soee> hmm, i'v seen it once or two long time ago
[20:19] <soee> hard to say what it was
[20:19] <clivejo> what was the cause?
[20:21] <soee> no idea
[21:54] <clivejo> yofel: whats going on with 15.08.3 apps in xenial?
[21:56] <clivejo> dont understand how there are built for wily, but cant see any for xenial
[21:56] <clivejo> sgclark: do you know?
[22:21] <vpinon> Hello, I just started a PPA for Kdenlive beta/experimental (as a beginner), but realize it may just fit into Kubuntu-PPAs?
[22:22] <vpinon> I would be happy to help in that direction :)
[22:23] <clivejo> hi vpinon
[22:24] <clivejo> I think kdenlive is in the KCI
[22:29] <vpinon> in KCI yes, but not in (beta-)backports
[23:37] <shadeslayer> yofel: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/org.kde.plasma.bavarianclock.tar.gz
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-br
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[03:35] <Philosophus> demorow
[03:35] <Philosophus> pow alguem conhece um programa bom para aprender outros idiomas compativel com ubuntu ??
[03:36] <astroo-> idiomas e saber linguas estrangeiras?
[04:07] <Philosophus> isso
[04:07] <astroo-> na net existe cursos gratis
[10:18] <AndroUser> Bom dia
[10:21] <elisboa> bom dia
[10:39] <AndroUser> Tudo bom ?
[10:56] <wopgan> bom dia
[12:12] <shallwe> bom dia manolos
[12:26] <aedigital> buenas
[13:26] <lynxer10_> bom dia pessoar
[13:27] <shallwe> bom dia
[13:29] <shallwe> http://www.datamation.com/open-source/slideshows/11-new-open-source-development-tools.html
[13:29] <shallwe> interessante pensei que o .net era fechado, mas não é mais o.O
[13:29] <shallwe> desde 2014
[13:30] <lynxer10_> era fechado
[13:30] <shallwe> tem vários neste link, interessante
[13:31] <lynxer10_> o kernel 4.4 vai vir com mudancas pra caramba voce leu?
[13:31] <lynxer10_> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux-44-features&num=1
[13:31] <shallwe> sim já tinha visto, essas coisas novas assustam kkk, tomara que não quebre muita coisa
[13:35] <lynxer10_> uhauhauhauha
[13:39] <lynxer10_> nao creio que iam fazer algo pra pior. questao de adaptabilidade :p
[13:40] <shallwe> isso sim, mas o problema são os apps que dependem do kernel, se eles não se atualizarem quebra
[13:40] <shallwe> como aconteceu comigo com o kernel 4.2, quebrou meu drive ati e meu virtualbox
[13:40] <aedigital> intencionalmente nao fariam
[13:40] <shallwe> depois alguns dias resolveram o virtual box, mas o drive da ati até hoje kkk
[13:40] <aedigital> mas eh aquilo neh, de boas intencoes o inferno esta cheio
[13:41] <aedigital> hehehe
[13:47] <lynxer10_> vritualbox de bao. eu consegui resolver e ta 100%
[13:48] <lynxer10_> com relacao a ati, tive problemas com o driver proprietario consegui instalar atraves de um package do debian mas o do site da amd nao instala nem a pau
[13:49] <shallwe> lynxer10_: pois é, mas ai voltei pro 14.04, eu estava usando o 15.04 nem sei pq atualizei :), mas to feliz agora
[13:50] <lynxer10_> cara nao sei se tem muito a ver mas com o 4.2 minha maquina me deu a impressao de esta mais rapida, ate o boot ta mais rapido
[13:50] <shallwe> claro pode ser isso conta
[13:50] <lynxer10_> o OS vem com o 3.16 e atualizei para o 4.2 pra mim melhorou bastante e esta funcionando tudo bem. O driver proprietario da amd que nao funciona nem com reza braba
[13:50] <shallwe> mas nao testei estou com o 3.9 mesmo
[13:51] <shallwe> se vc não joga o drive opensource rola tranquilo
[13:53] <lynxer10_> na realidade nao jogo. mas queria que o proprietario funcionasse
[13:54] <shallwe> a sim claro eu tb kkk
[13:54] <shallwe> afinal de contas se tenho uma placa boa ficar usando opensource não dá né, nada contra, mas proprietário é melhor
[13:55] <lynxer10_> nha minha placa nem e tao boa assim mas seria bom se tivesse com o driver dela e uma r7 260x
[13:56] <shallwe> como subiu os valores credo 500 reais essa sua placa
[13:57] <shallwe> a minha paguei 350 kkk agora ta 885 que roubo
[13:57] <lynxer10_> e razoavel, tem uma performance aceitavel para uma mid-range video card
[13:58] <shallwe> sim ela é boa, eu tenho uma hd 7850 um pouco melhor que a sua e rodo muita coisa
[13:58] <shallwe> no linux rodo liso alguns jogos feitos pra steam machine claro
[14:00] <shallwe> testei metro last light redux, o jogo com texturas melhoradas, rodou melhor que no windows, só que sai do jogo kkk, bem na hora que eu pego a minha arma :(
[14:00] <lynxer10_> nunca tentei rodar jogo no linux, mas como o proprietario nao funciona nao sei se funcionaria qq jogo la
[14:00] <shallwe> funciona sim pode rodar, isso de amd não ter drive pra linux é balela, é tão boa quanto nvidia
[14:01] <shallwe> o que complica é se sua placa for muito moderna, ai sim a performance não será a mesma
[14:01] <shallwe> mas placas mid end como as nossas rodam blz
[14:03] <lynxer10_> show, depois vou testar. sei que voce nao deve usar o gnome mas voce viu as melhorias da nova versao 3.18? ta bem legal :http://www.webupd8.org/2015/09/gnome-318-released-see-whats-new.html
[14:51] <MerliM> bom dia
[14:51] <aedigital> buenas
[14:51] <lynxer10_> bom dia
[15:08] <shallwe> fogo eu nem acesso sites 18+ e fica aparecendo propagando de mulheres kkkk, isso não é bom
[15:13] <lynxer10_> uhauhauhauh, mal sinal
[15:19] <elisboa> shallwe: poderia ser pior
[15:19] <elisboa> poderiam ser propagandas de homens
[15:28] <shallwe> problema é quando mulher ta junto ai pega mal :)
[15:31] <shallwe> como demora arquivos 7z no ubuntu credo
[15:32] <lynxer10_> demora? demora pra que?
[15:33] <shallwe> não sei acho que é o tipo de compactação que usaram
[15:34] <Dead_Thinker> shallwe: pra mim geralmente funciona bem, e curto usar 7z devido a maior compressão que obtenho
[15:35] <shallwe> é pra mim é o melhor tb
[15:49] <lynxer10_> comigo funciona de boa e nao demora nada nao
[16:03] <shallwe> é rolou o 7z eu pensei que o arquivo era 1gb mas era 10gb kkk
[16:04] <shallwe> agora foi :)
[16:05] <aedigital> osloko
[16:06] <shallwe> o único problema de ter ubuntu mais antigo é as libs
[16:06] <shallwe> Depende: libstdc++6 (>= 4.9) mas 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04 está para ser instalado
[16:27] <kanazuchi> oie
[16:28] <kanazuchi> boa tarde amiguinhas
[16:28] <shallwe> boa tarde manolo
[16:29] <mirqui> boa tarde :)
[16:32] <SeuTio> boa tarde
[16:33] <mirqui> blza , tudo bem ?
[16:35] <SeuTio> bem e tu ?
[16:35] <shallwe> nossa passei maior trabalhão pra instalar o emulador donphin de wii pra ver que roda lento kkkk
[16:35] <SeuTio> kkkkkkkkkkkk
[16:35] <SeuTio> eu to instalando o virtual box
[16:35] <SeuTio> '-'
[16:35] <shallwe> deve ter algum bug com o drive da ati só pode
[16:35] <lynxer10_> boa tarde tio
[16:36] <shallwe> SeuTio: recomendo fortemente que instale o do site
[16:36] <SeuTio> preciso emular o mac pro xcode
[16:36] <SeuTio> sim, baixei direto do site deles
[16:36] <mirqui> que bom , aqui vamos todos bem graças a deus :)
[16:36] <shallwe> SeuTio: aí complicou
[16:36] <shallwe> SeuTio: vc tem processador intel?
[16:37] <SeuPai> preciso testar meu app, porem nao roda direito no iphone
[16:37] <SeuPai> sim
[16:37] <SeuPai> core i3
[16:37] <mirqui> instalei tbm o vmware
[16:37] <shallwe> meu deus tem seutio e seupai na sala
[16:37] <SeuPai> é o mesmo kkkk
[16:37] <mirqui> só que não consigo acessar o pendrive na máquina virtual
[16:38] <SeuPai> caiu a conexao aqui e mudou o nick
[16:38] <SeuPai> problema é que o pessoal do iatkos nao disponibiliza mais o ios
[16:38] <SeuPai> só se pagar :/
[16:39] <shallwe> SeuPai: é ai assunto fica bem fora da sala mesmo, pois isso de iaktos é um mac modificado sem permissão
[16:40] <SeuPai> shallwe , sim
[16:41] <SeuPai> se eu baixei o ubuntu x64 , nao vai rodar na maquina virtual x32 né
[16:41] <shallwe> SeuPai: acho que não
[16:41] <lynxer10_> SeuPai: nao vai rodar. vc tem aque ativar a virtualizacao na bios, assim vai dar opcoes de maquinas x64
[16:42] <shallwe> pra rodar maquinas virtuais x64 no virtualbox vc precisa do virtual box x64
[16:42] <SeuPai> baixei o ubuntu x64 pra fazer dual boot, mas fiquei com receio de perder a garantia da dell
[16:43] <shallwe> pq? veio ubuntu 32bit pra vc?
[16:43] <SeuPai> nao, veio com windows 10
[16:43] <SeuPai> mas quero fazer dual boot
[16:44] <SeuPai> porém disseram que a garantia da dell é perdida quando se formata
[16:44] <lynxer10_> garantina com HD? acho que nao tem rolo nao. faz os discos de recuperacao da maquina q qq merda que de vc restaura conf de fabrica
[16:44] <shallwe> SeuPai: mas pq não instala o ubuntu 64x, vc está com ubuntu 32bit?
[16:45] <SeuPai> nao, eu vou instalar no dualboot o ubuntu x64 que baixei e o w10
[16:45] <SeuPai> o problema ta na maquina virtual
[16:45] <SeuPai> devo ter baixado o virtual box x32
[16:45] <shallwe> SeuPai: a sim isso mesmo, deixa dual boot ta certo
[16:45] <lynxer10_> e so baixar a versao x64 entao
[16:46] <shallwe> sempre é bom ter o sistema original, vai saber uma hora precisa
[16:46] <SeuPai> sim sim
[16:46] <mirqui> não consegui fazer dual boot
[16:46] <mirqui> win 7 ubuntu
[16:46] <SeuPai> e eu uso bem o windows por causa de umas ferramentas de desenvolvimento de apps pra android
[16:46] <shallwe> SeuPai: pois é ai é importante ter o windows
[16:47] <shallwe> mirqui: como não?
[16:47] <mirqui> a opção instalar lado a lado não apareceu
[16:47] <mirqui> somente apagar o win e instalar o ubuntu
[16:47] <shallwe> ta aí uma coisa que nunca fiz instalação lado a lado, isso roda nativamente o ubuntu? ou meio que emula?
[16:47] <mirqui> o por que eu não sei
[16:48] <shallwe> mirqui: mas não da pra criar uma outra partição?
[16:48] <mirqui> sim , rola , mas eu não consegui fazer
[16:48] <shallwe> criar outra partição não conseguiu?
[16:48] <shallwe> só se vc já tem várias então
[16:48] <mirqui> não cara , sempre consegui fazer dual boot
[16:48] <mirqui> sempre teve a opção lado a lado
[16:48] <mirqui> só que agora não apareceu
[16:49] <shallwe> a ta
[16:49] <shallwe> então não me assusta !
[16:49] <mirqui> mas por que isto ?
[16:49] <shallwe> um dia vou ler como isso funciona do lado a lado
[16:50] <SeuPai> ele instala normal
[16:50] <SeuPai> como nativo
[16:50] <shallwe> vixi chegou o eloi_carneiro, cuidado gente
[16:50] <SeuPai> bom, vou saindo aqui
[16:50] <SeuPai> ate mais
[16:50] <shallwe> até boa sorte
[16:51] <eloi_carneiro> shallwe, rsrs o que tá acontecendo
[16:51] <mirqui> acho que vou quebrar cabeça um pouco com o win e ubuntu para tentar fazer dual boot
[16:51] <mirqui> fui
[16:51] <shallwe> eloi_carneiro: nada não ta tudo certo :)
[16:52] <eloi_carneiro> shallwe, e ai quais as novidades?
[16:53] <shallwe> eloi_carneiro: só trabalho mesmo
[16:54] <shallwe> e esperando ganhar na lotomania
[16:54] <shallwe> se eu ganhar 100.000,00 ou mais eu prometo que viverei 100% dedicado a ajudar a comunidade ubuntu
[16:54] <shallwe> largo tudo que faço de trabalho kkkk
[16:55] <eloi_carneiro> rsrs
[16:55] <eloi_carneiro> eu estava almoçando
[16:55] <eloi_carneiro> e um tiozinho me pediu 4 numeros
[16:55] <eloi_carneiro> para jogar no jogo do bixo
[16:55] <eloi_carneiro> rsrs
[16:56] <shallwe> nem posso comentar isso é pirataria jogo do bixo :)
[16:56] <eloi_carneiro> abri o terminal e mandei um gerador que eu tenho de numero randomico
[16:56] <eloi_carneiro> o veio ficou todo feliz
[16:56] <eloi_carneiro> rsrs
[16:56] <shallwe> boa ideia vou montar um app no ubuntu pra praticar, que confere seus numeros da lotomania via internet
[16:56] <eloi_carneiro> rsrs
[16:56] <eloi_carneiro> cat /dev/urandom | tr -dc 'a-zA-Z0-9' | fold -w 16 | head -n 1
[16:57] <eloi_carneiro> aqui o script
[16:57] <eloi_carneiro> é bom para gerar senhas
[16:57] <eloi_carneiro> mas se vc quiser uma milhar, algo assim, pro jogo é só fazer assim
[16:57] <eloi_carneiro> cat /dev/urandom | tr -dc '0-9' | fold -w 4 | head -n 1
[16:57] <shallwe> é verdade, vantagem de se ter um terminal, 1 script em 1 linha de comando
[16:57] <eloi_carneiro> rsrs
[17:05] <yuttttttt> Ola, poderiam me ajudar?
[17:11] <shallwe> ola boa tarde
[17:12] <shallwe> acho que o cara precisava de ajuda pra sair do chat :) mas já deve ter conseguido
[17:47] <hggdh> para senhas, o melhor é apg
[18:01] <eloi_carneiro> hggdh, apg?
[18:02] <eloi_carneiro> é só para gerar senha?
[18:04] <eloi_carneiro> hggdh, já esta instalado aqui rsrs é bom mesmo
[18:19] <hggdh> eloi_carneiro: sim. É o melhor que conheço
[18:19] <hggdh> pasaffe usa-o, etc
[19:14] <yuttttttt> ola
[19:15] <shallwe> yuttttttt: olá
[19:16] <yuttttttt> como falo privado?
[19:16] <shallwe> depende do programa que estás usando
[19:16] <shallwe> mas pq privado?
[19:17] <yuttttttt> vc nao disse privado ola comigo? primeira vez que entro aq, nao sei como que é kkk
[19:17] <shallwe> a assim não, eu só digitei as iniciais yut e depois apertei tab
[19:18] <shallwe> ele completa o resto
[19:20] <yuttttttt> entendi, obrigado. Teria como você me ajudar, estou com duvidas em um assunto aq
[19:21] <shallwe> depende, qual seria a dúvida?
[19:22] <yuttttttt> nao entendo como que faço para instalar um programa tar.gz num liveusb que criei, eu teria q jogar o arquivo do programa no pendrive, mas como acharia ele via codigo?
[19:25] <shallwe> yuttttttt: na realidade vc instala ele no ubuntu
[19:25] <shallwe> não tem como instalar em outro local, que tipo de programa é?
[19:26] <MerliM> yuttttttt: ---- > /msg NICK mensagem
[19:27] <MerliM> yuttttttt: ----> /msg NICK "TEXTOOO"
[19:28] <yuttttttt> obrigado merlim, acho q consegui, vc recebeu privado shallwe? fiz o teste foi?
[19:31] <shallwe> yuttttttt: sim recebi privado
[19:31] <shallwe> mas todo mundo viu :)
[19:31] <shallwe> mas a outra janela que vc abriu o privado eu não tenho acesso com meu programa
[19:32] <yuttttttt> to usando no browser msm, nao consegui usar o pidgin do meu so tbm kkkkkk da erro
[19:36] <shallwe> yuttttttt: é sorte que tem na web
[19:40] <yuttttttt> tem algum jeito de ja deixar certo programa instalado sem ser fazendo com so?
[19:41] <yuttttttt> tio eu mesmo descompactar o arquivo e deixar em uma certa pasta? existe alguma maneira assim?
[19:45] <shallwe> yuttttttt: 2 perguntas qual versão do seu ubuntu, e qual o nome do programa que queres fazer isso?
[19:46] <yuttttttt> nao é ubuntu, estou usando o tails, o progrma é um programa de edicao de video
[19:49] <shallwe> a bom
[19:50] <shallwe> nao conheço tail mas de repente alguem aparece
[19:50] <yuttttttt> valeu, tails so livecd do tor
[19:53] <hggdh> yuttttttt: apenas para referencia, este é um canal de suporte au Ubuntu. Não creio que vás conseguir muito por cá
[19:54] <yuttttttt> eu sei, desculpe, é que nao achei nenhum canal sobre o assunto, voce sabe algum que talvez possa ajudar?
[19:55] <hggdh> yuttttttt: na rede oftc.net, canal #tails
[19:56] <hggdh> yuttttttt: (provavelmente em Ingles)
[19:56] <yuttttttt> isso que iria perguntar, só achei ingles mesmo, nao so muito bom, so sei espanhol e um pouquinho de frances, ingles sou pessimo
[19:57] <hggdh> lamento
[19:57] <hggdh> talvez alguém por lá possa indicar um canal em espanhol
[20:05] <yuttttttt> talvez me ajudem, quando se instala um programa no seu so em que pasta ele fica?
[20:06] <jaqent> yuttttttt: depende de qual distro foi usada e como o programa foi instalado
[20:08] <hggdh> espcificamente, um tar.gz vai depender do conteúdo (quais directorios foram gerados, se é um binário ou fonte, etc)
[20:08] <yuttttttt> é acho q nao vai ter jeito, vai ter q ser testanto e errando, vou começar a tentar e ver no que da kkkkkkk
[20:54] <hggdh> !ping
[20:54] <shallwe> marcooo
[20:55] <hggdh> !xenial
[20:55] <hggdh> cool
[20:55] <jaqent> !help
[20:56] <jaqent> :D
[20:56] <hggdh> sim, em Ingles. Cansei-me de tentar manter os bots em Portugues :-)
[21:02] <jaqent> hggdh: melhor assim do que sem nada :)
[22:08] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[22:14] <MerliM> ola
[22:14] <MerliM> mano
[22:16] <astroo-> ola
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[08:43] <nikolam> https://github.com/NARKOZ/hacker-scripts
[20:55] <bobe_> zdravo :)
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ubuntu-chat
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[06:17] <Kilos> morning everyone
[07:29] <dholbach> good morning
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.728467
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-us-nc
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[22:01] <ChinnoDog> chirp chirp
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.728927
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-desktop
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[05:41] <hikiko> Good morning :-)
[05:45] <pitti> Good morning
[05:51] <RAOF> Good morning!
[05:51] <pitti> hey RAOF, how are you?
[05:52] <RAOF> Butting my head against one of the two hard problems of computer science :)
[05:52] <RAOF> Other than that, pretty good. How about yourself? :)
[06:02] <hikiko> Hi pitti RAOF !
[06:02] <RAOF> Hey hikiko!
[06:02] <didrocks> good morning hikiko, RAOF
[06:02] <hikiko> Haha and didrocks!
[06:39] <pitti> hey hikiko, how are you?
[06:39] <pitti> ça va didrocks, as-tu eu un bon week-end?
[06:39] <pitti> RAOF: hah -- is one of them "create a project name"? :-)
[06:39] <RAOF> pitti: That is a special case of one of them, yes ;)
[06:40] <RAOF> (The two hard problems of computer science are naming, cache invalidation, and off-by-one errors)
[06:40] <didrocks> bonjour pitti ! Bon week-end, oui, joué à des jeux de société, et toi ?
[06:41] <didrocks> RAOF: :p
[06:42] <pitti> didrocks: un week-end calm aussi; on faisait la dernière jardinage, et on a joué au badminton à nouveau
[06:42] <pitti> didrocks: nous avons la première neige !
[06:43] <didrocks> pitti: oh waow, pas encore ici :)
[06:43] <didrocks> mais mes parents, si
[06:43] <pitti> ponctuel pour l'ouverture de marché de Noël
[06:45] <didrocks> cool :)
[07:18] <darkxst> hey didrocks pitti
[07:19] <didrocks> evening darkxst
[07:22] <darkxst> anyone able to sponsor bug 1518478 to unbreak Ubuntu GNOME images?
[07:23] <didrocks> darkxst: having a look, will probably patch pilot today/tomorrow anyway
[07:24] <darkxst> didrocks, thanks, its just trivial fallout from gdm3 rename, and some cleanups
[07:24] <didrocks> darkxst: yeah, no more 16gdmnopasswd?
[07:24] <didrocks> how is it configured for the live session then? (just curious)
[07:24] <darkxst> didrocks, that script has not done anything for ~2 cycles
[07:24] <darkxst> didrocks, autologin in intially
[07:25] <darkxst> if you logout, then you get the password prompt re-logging back in
[07:25] <didrocks> darkxst: how does gdm3 then knows it should do an autologin?
[07:26] <darkxst> didrocks, autologin is in 15autologin
[07:26] <didrocks> ah ok ;)
[07:26] <didrocks> yeah, this was just for relogin
[07:26] <didrocks> got it
[07:27] <didrocks> sounds safe and can't impact the rest, sponsoring then
[07:27] <darkxst> its hard to fix the logout from a non-persistent live session now, not worthwhile
[07:27] <darkxst> didrocks, thanks
[07:27] <didrocks> darkxst: I think we still ask for the password for lightdm in that case
[07:27] <flocculant> morning desktoppy peoples - the update to Gtk Version: 3.18.5 has made things go pop over the weekend :) bug 1518661 for example
[07:33] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[07:33] <pitti> hey darkxst, how are you?
[07:33] <darkxst> didrocks, yeh and probably not many bother to log out anyway
[07:33] <pitti> bonjour seb128, comment vas-tu ?
[07:34] <darkxst> pitti, good, my leg has mostly recovered, and been good weather, though that won't last!
[07:34] <didrocks> darkxst: I guess they just reboot if they feel themeselves stuck"
[07:36] <pitti> darkxst: "good" means "< 35 degrees"? :)
[07:36] <darkxst> pitti, < 30 for me! tomorrow is going to be 30 and storms, that is bad!
[07:44] <darkxst> seb128, bug 1518813
[07:45] <darkxst> seb128, that is going to cause the reverse problem when gnome-user-share/vino get updated
[07:46] <seb128> hey pitti didrocks darkxst
[07:46] <didrocks> re seb128
[07:47] <darkxst> hey seb128
[07:47] <seb128> darkxst, yeah, but g-u-s and vino are not being updated :p
[07:47] <seb128> I looked at updating vino on friday
[07:47] <seb128> but basically the new version is mostly things dropped we would have to revert + translations updates
[07:47] <darkxst> seb128, our sharing panel is completely broken atm
[07:48] <seb128> why?
[07:48] <seb128> vino didn't change much
[07:48] <seb128> they just dropped the standalone UI
[07:48] <seb128> and changed the autostart
[07:48] <darkxst> seb128, because g-c-c/g-s-d don't use the gsettings keys for autostart
[07:48] <seb128> is that part the issue?
[07:48] <darkxst> instead g-s-d manages the services
[07:48] <seb128> that seems like easy enough to patch
[07:49] <darkxst> seb128, I am also concerned about having to bluetooth obex proxy's running
[07:49] <darkxst> one in the old gnome-user-share and one in g-c-c
[07:50] <darkxst> if we hit a bug in that situation is going to incredibly hard to work out what is causing it
[07:50] <seb128> can't you just drop GNOME from those autostart .desktop?
[07:50] <seb128> to not have g-u-s starting under g-s
[07:51] <darkxst> seb128, we need g-u-s running for the webdav stuff
[07:51] <seb128> so patch the g-c-c one out?
[07:51] <darkxst> seb128, no its not equivalent, it has per network sharing options
[07:52] <darkxst> later g-u-s did split binaries before dumping obex though
[07:52] <darkxst> maybe can use that
[07:52] <seb128> we could probably patch g-u-s to have the code in a if(XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=...
[07:52] <seb128> or that
[07:53] <darkxst> then there is still the autostartcondition, I can override the setting, but if anyone ever opens up the old UI and disables it, it will be broken forever
[07:56] <seb128> unsure to understand the autostart thing
[07:56] <andyrock> morning all
[07:56] <seb128> if they use an UI to disable something they can use it to enable it back no?
[07:56] <seb128> hey andyrock
[08:01] <darkxst> more like if they use some obscure UI to disable something, will they remember how to enable it back!
[08:01] <darkxst> toggling the settings in g-c-c, which is the obvious place, doesnt touch the autostart key
[08:03] <darkxst> but toggling the setting in g-u-s or vino will change that key
[08:10] <larsu> good morning all! Happy Monday
[08:11] <didrocks> Happy Monday larsu!
[08:12] <larsu> hi didrocks! how are you?
[08:12] <larsu> had a good weekend?
[08:12] <didrocks> larsu: good, thanks! rainy week-end, but went to play board games and painting walls to my aunt's :)
[08:12] <didrocks> and you?
[08:13] <larsu> good as well thanks - quiet and relaxing
[08:14] <pitti> hey larsu
[08:14] <larsu> morgen pitti! wie gehts?
[08:14] <pitti> larsu: super, danke! Badminton, Sauna, und erster Schnee, prima Wochenende :)
[08:15] <larsu> :)
[08:15] <seb128> hey larsu! how are you?
[08:15] <seb128> pitti, oh, it has been snowing?
[08:16] <larsu> morning seb128!
[08:16] <larsu> indeed it has
[08:16] <pitti> seb128: oui, hier il y avait la première neige
[08:16] * larsu sees some snow out the window
[08:16] <seb128> nice
[08:16] <pitti> seb128: ponctuel pour l'ouverture de marché de Noël :)
[08:17] <seb128> hehe
[08:17] <seb128> j'aime cette période de l'année ;-)
[08:18] <pitti> il fait trop froid maintenant; je prefère les saisons chaudes :)
[09:00] <Trevinho> Ciao!
[09:00] <pitti> hey Trevinho!
[09:00] <Trevinho> pitti: hi
[09:01] <didrocks> hey Trevinho
[09:02] <seb128> hey Trevinho Laney willcooke
[09:02] <Laney> morning
[09:03] <pitti> hey Laney, how are you? nice long weekend?
[09:03] <willcooke> morning
[09:03] <willcooke> hey seb128
[09:03] <pitti> hey willcooke
[09:04] <didrocks> morning willcooke
[09:04] <didrocks> and wb Laney!
[09:05] <Laney> hey pitti
[09:05] <Laney> got a cold :-(
[09:05] <pitti> urgh
[09:07] <Laney> bleh, irssi is misbehaving
[09:07] <Laney> ah!
[09:07] <Laney> pitti: before this arrived, the weekend was nice though ;-) cocktails, climbing & family visiting
[09:07] <Laney> how are you?
[09:07] <Laney> and you seb128!
[09:07] <Laney> and didrocks!
[09:08] <Laney> 156 "Ubuntu" emails
[09:08] <Laney> these days they are usually from autopkgtest workers ;-)
[09:09] <seb128> Laney, doing good! went to see simply red on saturday, had lunch with friends yesterday and watched some tennis during the (rainy) w.e
[09:10] <seb128> today is sunny which is good because I've tennis practice tonight ;-)
[09:10] <Laney> c-c-c-c-cold today
[09:10] <seb128> Laney, hope you get over the cold!
[09:15] <pitti> Laney: I dealt with them, kill them all
[09:16] <didrocks> Laney: btw, did you get any stacktrace when running in virtual? The generator is supposed to work
[09:16] <pitti> Laney: partly the usual cloud noise, partly my fault while playing with the workers
[09:16] <Laney> didrocks: I didn't try yet, there was that paths problem
[09:16] <didrocks> Laney: (I still think there is something that can be improved, but that shouldn't prevent you for running)
[09:16] <didrocks> Laney: really? sys.prefix should return the virtualenv ones
[09:17] <didrocks> (on the line you showed me)
[09:17] <Laney> well you never came back to me to say it wasn't a problem
[09:17] <Laney> so I didn't know that
[09:17] <didrocks> Laney: that's why I'm coming back to you now, to tell it's not a problem :)
[09:18] <Laney> ok then
[09:18] <didrocks> (still, there is one function where upstream use first system, then trunk, and another one where they are using trunk, then system, I'll fix it)
[09:18] <didrocks> I thought you pointed it to me because you found there is an issue
[09:21] <Laney> when trying to run it before I did
[09:21] <Laney> but never got far enough on the virtualenv due to the previous problem
[09:21] <didrocks> ok
[09:25] <didrocks> Laney: generator.py will have an issue though, upstream forgot "default" (for templating, but that's an issue with globally installed version as well)
[09:33] <Laney> oh yeah
[09:39] <didrocks> Laney: waiting for upstream to appear online, but that should be cleaner: https://github.com/ximion/appstream-dep11/pull/2
[09:41] <larsu> morning Laney! sorry about the cold :(
[09:42] * larsu hands Laney some virtual ginger tea with lemon
[09:44] <Laney> thanks larsu! I feel better already
[09:44] <Laney> how's it going?
[09:46] <larsu> Laney: good thanks! Already went to the gym this morning and had a delicious breakfast
[09:46] <larsu> how was your weekend? I hope not determined by the cold?
[09:47] <Laney> larsu: it only arrived about 6pm yesterday, so no
[09:47] <Laney> I hope I didn't pass it to Henry though :(
[09:47] <larsu> poor henry!
[09:49] <larsu> all the best to both of you
[09:50] <Laney> :)
[09:50] <seb128> larsu, how was your w.e?
[09:50] <Laney> did you have a good weekend?
[09:50] <Laney> snap
[09:50] <seb128> seems like your week start was good :-)
[09:50] <seb128> hehe
[09:51] <larsu> yes!
[09:52] <larsu> weekend was good as well: went to a peruvian restaurant and had really good pisco sour, walked through some parks, listened to a choir, went to the movies, and slept a lot :)
[09:52] <larsu> oh and went to play table tennis :)
[09:53] <Laney> \o/
[10:07] <seb128> sounds like a good w.e indeed ;-)
[10:10] <willcooke> ?! robert_ancell
[10:10] <robert_ancell> willcooke, hi
[10:10] <willcooke> robert_ancell, working late! :)
[10:11] <robert_ancell> willcooke, yeah, thought I'd catch some UK people while they are awake
[10:11] <willcooke> wow, nice, thanks!
[10:12] <willcooke> That reminds me, I need to chase mvo and cjwatson about the GS mini-sprint
[10:12] <seb128> hey robert_ancell
[10:12] <seb128> robert_ancell, saw my email about poppler?
[10:13] <robert_ancell> seb128, nope
[10:13] <Laney> "oh would you look at the time /quit"
[10:13] * larsu looks at the time and quits
[10:13] <willcooke> :D
[10:13] <robert_ancell> seb128, I have them queued up and was just waiting to get it out of NEW
[10:14] <robert_ancell> seb128, I'm never sure if you have to wait or you can upload them directlly...
[10:14] <Laney> rebuilds?
[10:14] <robert_ancell> Either way, since the change is quite small it shouldn't cause any issues
[10:14] <robert_ancell> Laney, yeah, if I upload inkscape for example, does it build against the popple in the NEW queue or the old one?
[10:15] <seb128> robert_ancell, right, it just means rebuilding rdepends, including things like libreoffice, and sometime some of those get caught in another transition
[10:15] <pitti> robert_ancell: only against release+updates+proposed, not the NEW queue
[10:15] <seb128> robert_ancell, you need to wait for them to be out of queue
[10:15] <Laney> definitely not the queue
[10:15] <willcooke> seb128, robert_ancell - just sent you and email since you're both around
[10:15] <robert_ancell> I thought so
[10:15] <seb128> willcooke, saw that
[10:15] <pitti> not only need to wait for out of the queue", but "published into archive.u.c."
[10:15] <Laney> ftpmaster.internal ;-)
[10:15] <Laney> rmadison is good enough™
[10:15] <robert_ancell> racy!
[10:16] <robert_ancell> OK, I'll upload them tomorrow.
[10:16] <seb128> robert_ancell, we just had some quite hairy transitions, like the start of cycle uploades made gnome-desktop/libgtop/poppler/ffmpeg/other things all need to go together, because sometime you have a package that use libraries involved in different transitions
[10:16] <seb128> robert_ancell, I'm still going to look at the current ongoing tansitions before accepting those binaries
[10:17] <Laney> someone else might accept it
[10:17] <Laney> that happened before
[10:18] <seb128> I can reject it now
[10:18] <seb128> and move it to accepted later
[10:18] <seb128> to avoid that :p
[10:19] <seb128> (poppler upstream are really annoying btw, there are 5 commits between 0.37 and 0.38 and they still find the way to bump the soname)
[10:19] <robert_ancell> yeah, they love to make new sonames
[10:19] <robert_ancell> They also didn't remove any symbols
[10:20] <robert_ancell> Actually, we don't track symbols on the main lib - was there a reason for that?
[10:20] <seb128> not that I know
[10:20] <seb128> is the soname change justified?
[10:21] <robert_ancell> I was going to add that.
[10:21] <robert_ancell> Probably not
[10:21] <seb128> maybe we should just revert that
[10:21] <robert_ancell> We should not modify upstream sonames...
[10:21] <seb128> I'm tired of those transitions costing us days or work
[10:21] <seb128> so maybe we should just skip that update
[10:21] <seb128> I don't see anything worth the work
[10:21] <robert_ancell> We could patch all the changes into our current version. I'd just bring it in, surely everything will get rebuilt by the end of the cycle anyway.
[10:23] <robert_ancell> mvo, do you know why reviews.ubuntu.com provides both a ratings average and a histogram? The average can always be derived from the histogram right?
[10:25] <mvo> robert_ancell: look at the code in software center, its not using an average but instead something more elaborate, let me find the relevant lines
[10:26] <robert_ancell> mvo, yeah, I'm just wondering why the server provides redundant fields - is that because the histogram was added later or is it for simple clients that just want an average without doing the calculation themself?
[10:26] <mvo> robert_ancell: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-control-tower/software-center/trunk/view/head:/softwarecenter/utils.py#L681 the wilson_score stuff - aha, I think the wilson score was added later
[10:27] <mvo> robert_ancell: or maybe the web part was using the average instead
[10:27] <mvo> robert_ancell: calac_dr() is what you want
[10:27] <robert_ancell> mvo, yeah, so I can just ignore the average field, store the histogram and calculate the score myself.
[10:31] <mvo> robert_ancell: yeah, I think thats the way to go. actually I wonder why the servier is not just doing that instead
[10:31] <robert_ancell> mvo, probably backwards compatibility
[10:31] <robert_ancell> it is json after all
[12:12] <dholbach> hiya
[12:12] <dholbach> can somebody take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~fourdollars/unity-settings-daemon/fix-lowest-brightness/+merge/278108 maybe?
[12:41] <tkamppeter> Any font exper/maintainer around? Please have a look at this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1284215 We should check whether Ubuntu is also affected.
[12:52] <willcooke> andyrock, is this related to your other "mem. leak" issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/987060
[12:52] <andyrock> yup
[12:52] <andyrock> that was the bug
[12:52] <willcooke> ahh
[12:52] <willcooke> I'll assign it to you then :)
[12:53] <willcooke> tkamppeter, can you ping sladen - he might know
[12:53] <andyrock> but seems like it's not a leak
[12:53] <willcooke> seb128, can you have a look at dholbach message up there ^^ seems like an important fix
[12:53] <willcooke> andyrock, yeah I remember now. Just doing some triage of the X list so I will tidy that one up by assigning to you :)
[12:57] <seb128> willcooke, I can but I think pitti and Laney reviewed/acked the xenial version so maybe it's easier if they review the SRU as well?
[12:57] <willcooke> oh, cool, thanks seb128
[12:57] <seb128> np
[12:58] <Laney> not me
[12:58] <Laney> blerhghgGHGHGHGH
[12:58] * Laney goes for some honey and lemon
[13:00] * didrocks hugs Laney (with care)
[13:00] <willcooke> burn your clothes didrocks
[13:01] * didrocks puts everything in the incinerator
[13:06] <Laney> :)
[13:12] <tkamppeter> willcooke, thanks.
[13:12] <tkamppeter> willcooke, have you seen my mail concerning the libopenjpeg MIR?
[13:13] <willcooke> tkamppeter, seen but not read yet
[13:13] <willcooke> one sec...
[13:13] <willcooke> tkamppeter, ack - will chase.
[13:14] <tkamppeter> willcooke, thanks.
[13:15] <seb128> willcooke, tkamppeter, what about openjpeg?
[13:15] <willcooke> seb128, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjpeg/+bug/711061
[13:15] <willcooke> just reading the comments now...
[13:18] <seb128> tkamppeter, willcooke, I don't think poppler has an embedded version of openjpeg
[13:18] <seb128> we just have our poppler without support for that format
[13:18] <tkamppeter> seb128, and that makes it really important that openjpeg makes it into main.
[13:19] <seb128> tkamppeter, is that format that important?
[13:19] <tkamppeter> seb128, it seems that Poppler hat something else embedded formerly but they dropped it.
[13:19] <seb128> we don't get too many complain about it missing
[13:20] <seb128> and if the security team states there are issues with the library...
[13:20] <tkamppeter> seb128, PDFs can have images embedded using this format. Images which are files on their own, like photos from cameras are never JPEG2000, but in case of cameras usually JPEG.
[13:20] <Laney> the comment robert_ancell made says that there was some internal decoder
[13:20] <Laney> so I doubt it was an actual copy of this lib
[13:21] <Laney> was/is -> deprecated
[13:22] <seb128> tkamppeter, right, I'm just saying that that format is not the most commonly used, would still be good to support but if the only libraries to enable it are poor maintained and have security issues we might be better off not having the support than exposing users to security issues
[13:25] <tkamppeter> seb128, it seems that maintenance of openjpeg has improved and now it has to be investigated whether it got acceptable.
[13:26] <seb128> tkamppeter, right, let's see then
[13:27] <willcooke> tkamppeter, I think you need state that openjpeg maint. has improved in the comments on that bug
[13:27] <seb128> if that's true
[13:28] <seb128> you might want fact to backup that statement
[13:28] <seb128> because from reading the comment it seems it is maintained but not very actively and that is true for a while
[13:29] <tkamppeter> willcooke, this was already stated in the comments.
[13:31] <seb128> Laney, larsu, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1518661 seems created by the bg-color change
[13:31] <tkamppeter> Debian seems to have accepted it as their Ghostscript uses the external libopenjpeg and not the embedded "secured by Artifex" version.
[13:31] <seb128> tkamppeter, Debian doesn't have the MIR concept
[13:31] <seb128> they support all their packages the same
[13:39] <pitti> or more precisely, their "main" is our "main+universe"
[13:39] <larsu> seb128: is this only on compiz?
[13:48] <seb128> larsu, no, cf upstream bug
[13:49] <larsu> seb128: how can this come from our patch then?
[13:50] <seb128> larsu, I don't understand
[13:50] <larsu> ah, it is our patch
[13:50] <larsu> so not an upstream issue at all
[13:50] <seb128> right
[13:50] <seb128> I just say to look at the bugzilla comments for details
[13:50] <seb128> not that it was an upstream issue
[13:50] <larsu> right, got it now :)
[13:51] <seb128> larsu, btw no need to context change too much, if you are still on the nautilus menu maybe get that done first and then look at gtk
[13:53] <larsu> seb128: ok
[13:53] <larsu> (was distracted by that weird font bug anyway)
[14:12] <desrt> hello co-workers
[14:12] <larsu> morning desrt
[14:12] <larsu> what's up?
[14:12] <desrt> sitting on the couch drinking coffee
[14:12] <larsu> sounds good
[14:13] * larsu sits in a chair and drinks coffee
[14:13] <desrt> watching xclaesse work on one of my projects
[14:13] <desrt> it's a good morning :)
[14:13] <larsu> :)
[14:13] <desrt> played _so much_ ingress this weekend. i'm pretty far ahead of schedule on my levelling plan
[14:14] <desrt> got a week pass for the TTC. been visiting all kinds of cool places that i've never been before because of the high portal density
[14:14] <didrocks> good morning desrt
[14:14] <desrt> (and high portal density tends to correspond to interesting places in general, so win)
[14:14] <willcooke> nice!
[14:14] <desrt> it's getting cold and windy, but i got some nice touch gloves :)
[14:15] <larsu> desrt: appservice, eh? Is that the confinement thing?
[14:16] <seb128> hey desrt
[14:17] <desrt> yup
[14:18] <desrt> turns out collabora also wants to confine dconf :)
[14:18] <desrt> ...and using apparmor, no less
[14:18] <larsu> whoo
[14:18] <seb128> nice!
[14:19] <desrt> too bad they don't know any kernel hackers who could help :p
[14:21] <desrt> seb128, larsu, willcooke: good morning, btw :)
[14:21] <larsu> morning
[14:23] * didrocks feels left alone :p
[14:23] <desrt> eep!
[14:23] <desrt> good morning didrocks. sorry :)
[14:23] * didrocks feels better now! :)
[14:23] <desrt> didrocks: i forgot you existed after you stopped fighting for our team!
[14:24] <desrt> ;)
[14:25] <didrocks> rohhhhhhhhh
[14:25] <didrocks> I was protecting you even before you knew that was a thing!
[14:25] * didrocks removes is cape
[14:25] <desrt> lol
[14:26] <larsu> hehe
[14:26] <desrt> making sure i lived in a nice clean sea of blue, free from encroachment of any slime
[14:26] <didrocks> :)
[14:29] * desrt plays another new alternate reality game with a cool-sounding name
[14:30] <desrt> maybe you heard of it. it's a real mind-bender
[14:30] <desrt> it's called....
[14:30] <desrt> " inotify "
[14:30] <larsu> i, notify
[14:30] <desrt> there's these things littered around the filesystem called inodes
[14:31] <desrt> and 'events' are entering our world, through these "inodes"
[14:31] <desrt> and you have to capture them
[14:31] <desrt> but it's almost impossible to capture all of the events that you want without also getting a lot of useless ones
[14:31] <desrt> very fun game!
[14:32] <larsu> desrt: I thought you had it all figured out
[14:33] <desrt> i do
[14:33] <desrt> but it's pretty wildly complicated :)
[14:33] <larsu> ya... no shit
[14:33] <desrt> it involves quite a few abstractions
[14:33] * larsu still thinks this isn't a problem worth solving
[14:34] <desrt> i do. the state of things before was very bad
[14:34] <desrt> the state of things now is still quite bad
[14:34] <desrt> and it's starting to look more and more like we will never have anything better from the kernel
[14:34] <desrt> which is sort of what we were waiting for
[14:34] <desrt> so we may as well stop using stop-gaps
[14:35] <larsu> what could the kernel do better without growing all this complex logic itself?
[14:35] <larsu> watching abitrary paths is close to impossible
[14:36] <desrt> basically, fanotify without the stupid restrictions
[14:36] <desrt> reporting to a userspace daemon
[14:36] <desrt> based on that we could build something very close to what macos has
[14:37] <larsu> what does that do differently from inotify?
[14:37] <larsu> sounds the same from a quick look
[14:38] <larsu> minus a lot of event tupes
[14:38] <larsu> *types
[14:38] <desrt> it means that user processes don't have to go through the insane hassle of spidering the filesystem adding watches to all of the paths
[14:38] <desrt> anyway... i don't expect that this will happen any time soon
[14:38] <desrt> so i'm going to stop dreaming about it and go back to dealing with what we have today
[14:51] <willcooke> seb128, Trevinho (anyone who cares) - I've finished my triage of our rls-x-incoming bugs. Things which I think should certainly be worked on I have targeted and removed the tag. Everything else in that list (for us) is either a) I don't care b) I don't know. Can you guys and anyone else parse that list and then we can have a quick joint session to deal with the remaining ones?
[14:51] <willcooke> link: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-x-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:51] <seb128> willcooke, sure, just set up something on the calendar?
[14:52] <Trevinho> yeah, fine
[14:52] <willcooke> seb128, Trevinho - let me know when you're done and I'll set something up. It's taken me a week longer than I thought it would - so I don't want to tie you to an unreasonable date
[14:53] <Trevinho> Mh, ok...
[14:53] <Trevinho> andyrock: too ^
[14:54] <lifeless> desrt: all hai 'solutions'
[15:08] <qengho> Good morning.
[15:09] <willcooke> hey qengho
[15:09] <qengho> seb128: I have a proposal for merged xdg-utils from Debian. https://launchpad.net/~cmiller/+archive/ubuntu/proposed/+packages
[15:10] <qengho> willcooke: 'sup.
[15:10] <larsu> morning qu
[15:10] <larsu> *qengho ;)
[15:13] <seb128> qengho, hey, great, maybe attach the debdiff to one of the bugs it fixes and subscribe ubuntu-sponsors?
[15:13] <seb128> qengho, I'm going to try a look later if nobody else picks it up before
[15:14] <seb128> hey qengho btw :-)
[15:37] <qengho> seb128: merci.
[16:28] <pitti> seb128: oh, j'ai perdu à te dire: xenial a des nouveaux paquets de langue depuis ce matin
[16:29] <seb128> pitti, j'ai vu, merci ;-)
[16:29] <seb128> pitti, et "perdu" -> "oublié"
[16:29] <seb128> perdu = lost
[16:30] <pitti> seb128: ah, merci
[16:30] <seb128> de rien !
[17:03] * didrocks waves good evening and good night
[17:04] <seb128> didrocks, night!
[17:04] <didrocks> enjoy your tennis seb128 :)
[17:04] <seb128> brb session restart
[17:10] <larsu> desrt: ugh! https://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/tree/gio/gapplication.c#n1204
[17:11] <desrt> what?
[17:11] <larsu> I had to dig into glib source to find out why this is crashing
[17:11] <desrt> i don't think this was ever allowed
[17:12] <larsu> where does it say it isn't? People do this all the time
[17:12] <desrt> i wrote a blog post about it once :)
[17:12] <larsu> right.....
[17:13] <desrt> but basically, it can be logically determined to be problematic if you think about it
[17:13] <larsu> I know this
[17:13] <larsu> but don't always think about it (like just now)
[17:13] <larsu> and there's no way to figure this out but read the source
[17:13] <larsu> and by the way, this code doesn't assert on any other properties
[17:13] <desrt> ya
[17:14] <larsu> nor does any constructed anywhere else
[17:14] <desrt> i'm trying to remember if there was a specific reason that this property was problematic
[17:14] <desrt> probably because of the way its default value is picked
[17:14] <desrt> i guess we could tweak that
[17:14] <desrt> i mean, in fact, this assert is there to prevent a leak
[17:15] <desrt> if you just removed this assert and did nothing else, your code would not behave how you expected and also, it would leak
[17:15] <desrt> so simply removing the assert is out of the question
[17:16] <desrt> we may do something more intelligent, however
[17:16] <desrt> 1) we could turn the assert into a free. this is an awful choice.
[17:16] <desrt> 2) we could turn the assert into a g_error() with an explanation
[17:16] <desrt> 3) we could turn the assert into an if statement preventing the calculation of the resource path if a non-NULL one was already specified
[17:16] <desrt> i guess you probably want 3?
[17:18] <larsu> dunno
[17:18] <larsu> I don't care really
[17:18] <larsu> 2 would be fine as well
[17:18] <desrt> are you making an app with dynamic app id?
[17:18] <larsu> no, patching nautilus
[17:19] <larsu> could do it "right", but master is already doing that and I want a minimally invasive patch
[17:19] <larsu> because we don't use master
[17:19] <larsu> and I don't want to rename all the resources
[17:19] <desrt> isn't the base resource path specified with a single switch to the resource compiler?
[17:20] <desrt> or are you concerned about the other locations that use the resources?
[17:20] <larsu> ya
[17:20] <desrt> fair enough
[17:20] <desrt> fwiw, in this case, i think we could do 3
[17:20] <larsu> it's just a matter of /org/gnome/nautilus vs /org/gnome/Nautilus
[17:20] <desrt> lol
[17:20] <larsu> ya, srsly
[17:20] <larsu> welcome to my life
[17:20] <desrt> send in a patch for g_str_casehash and g_str_caseequal
[17:20] <larsu> haha no
[17:20] <larsu> that's be so wrong
[17:20] <desrt> and modify gresource
[17:21] <larsu> meh
[17:23] <Trevinho> 'night...
[17:23] <desrt> "You can disable automatic resource loading functionality by setting the path to NULL."
[17:23] <desrt> this is why
[17:23] <desrt> NULL doesn't mean "to be decided in the future". it means "nothing, please"
[17:23] <larsu> indeed
[17:23] <desrt> so if we permit setting this value before construction then we get ourselves into the trouble of having to ignore NULL
[17:24] <desrt> ie: best to always force the user to call g_application_set_resource_base_path() after new() and before run()
[17:24] <larsu> I put it into the g_object_new() call now
[17:24] <desrt> so ya... i guess the best patch is one changing the assert to a g_error() pointing the user at g_application_set_resource_base_path()
[17:24] <larsu> this is what I used...
[17:24] <larsu> in init()
[17:25] <desrt> ya. you're not allowed to do that :)
[17:25] <larsu> I think the right patch is to deprcate init() :P
[17:25] <desrt> ya... no kidding
[17:25] <desrt> gotta love our 8-pass construction system
[17:26] <larsu> sigh
[17:26] <desrt> "let's make a type system that inits everything but is completely oblivious to properties... we'll add a separate layer later that deals with the properties after the fact.... what could go wrong?"
[18:01] <Laney> darkxst: reckon you could merge g-o-a?
[18:02] <Laney> now gvfs requires the new one ;-)
[18:02] <Laney> maybe can revert back to webkit1?
[18:02] <Laney> or webkit2 2.4
[19:40] <willcooke> g'night all
[19:44] <Laney> darkxst: ok, I monkeyed up a revert, check out ppa:ubuntu-desktop/ppa
[19:46] <Laney> (assuming mixed linkage isn't going to be a problem, hope not)
[21:13] <darkxst> Laney, I suppose that might work
[23:33] <xnox> Laney, are you going to merge virt manager?
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2015-11-23-#xubuntu-devel
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[09:33] <ochosi> flocculant: i'd say if adwaita exposes it too, then it
[09:33] <ochosi> 's for sure not a shimmer-themes problem
[09:34] <ochosi> i'm more afraid it could be an xfwm4 issue, but i seriously hope it's "just" gtk3
[12:42] <flocculant> ochosi: from what I've read - it's not just us, u-gnome, ubuntu
[12:50] <flocculant> ochosi: marked mine a dupe of one that's got upstream linked to gnome-bugs
[12:50] <flocculant> and seb bacher has seen that one
[13:05] <slickymasterWork> knome, krytarik, saw the MP
[13:06] <slickymasterWork> will review it tonight, when I get home
[13:06] <slickymasterWork> and it won't be a sillyyyyy review knome :P
[13:32] <knome> slickymasterWork, it will, because i have already done the technical review (and made sure it works), and there isn't really much for the content side to ACK
[13:56] <ochosi> flocculant: ok, that is comforting to hear
[13:59] <flocculant> ochosi: seen more now - they think it's an ubuntu specific patch, and I thought I'd let you know as soon as I read stuff :)
[16:07] <krytarik> knome: Just notice we are copying too much with the new 'common-libs' target, but we did before too. :P Also, if you haven't done it yet, and aren't opposed to it, I'm gonna try and merge the startpage CSS with the main one. Will have another diff upcoming.
[16:29] <knome> krytarik, just don't :P
[16:29] <knome> krytarik, i *want* to keep the stuff that is there, separate
[16:30] <knome> krytarik, at least for now, before i do the revamp for the abstract or whatever
[16:30] <krytarik> Good, less work for me, I suppose. :P
[16:35] <knome> hah
[16:38] <krytarik> However, here is the new, complete technical diff: http://paste.openstack.org/show/NeQmvZTwrGe1TSONcNVD/
[16:38] <ochosi> flocculant: sure,that's cool!
[16:39] <krytarik> knome: ↑
[16:42] <krytarik> knome: Did you fix the startpage style issues I mentioned yet though?
[16:59] <knome> krytarik, no, i didn't
[16:59] <knome> krytarik, and what "complete"? is it more complete than your MP and my MP?
[17:00] <krytarik> Well, you asked me for a technical review of yours - and I posted a diff yesterday, and this is an extension to that.
[17:00] <knome> if you want to further changes, do another MP that depends on mine please...
[17:00] <knome> :P
[17:01] <krytarik> Particularly, as I mentioned, fixes that *everything* in 'libs-common' is copied.
[17:01] <knome> sigh :)
[17:01] <knome> i don't think we're really building the startpage without the docs
[17:01] <krytarik> Huh? Look what else is in there.
[17:03] <krytarik> I'm fine with copying too many images for the startpage, that is.
[17:22] <knome> just let's merge what we have now
[17:23] <knome> then you can do the diff on top of that
[17:23] <knome> right?
[17:23] <knome> :)
[17:23] <pleia2> knome: thanks for reviewing the post
[17:23] <knome> pleia2, np
[17:24] <knome> pleia2, fwiw, i didn't do the changes related to things i specifically highlighted to you
[17:24] * pleia2 will make edits and things in a bit
[17:24] <knome> cheers
[17:24] <pleia2> nods
[18:30] <krytarik> knome: I messed the latest diff up again, of course - no proper testing and checking this time. >_<
[18:31] <krytarik> + a bit
[18:31] <krytarik> However, that doesn't matter anyway right now.
[18:49] <krytarik> ( http://paste.openstack.org/show/k6n6d1JB59CwMEMdUtRP/ )
[18:50] <krytarik> Fixed the bottom border of the startpage too.
[19:15] <pleia2> knome: post updated and with photos added if you want to have a look before I hit publish
[19:16] <knome> pleia2, just a sec
[19:17] <pleia2> no rush :)
[19:19] <knome> pleia2, looks good to me, you can go when you are ready
[19:19] <pleia2> yay
[19:20] <pleia2> https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-at-freegeek-chicago/
[19:20] <pleia2> knome: want to tweet?
[19:20] <pleia2> I fb and g+
[19:20] <knome> yeah, i just logged in
[19:20] <pleia2> :)
[19:20] <knome> and yeah, we need the blog entries on the front page sooner or later
[19:20] <knome> it's really hidden now
[19:21] <knome> (and in the menu)
[19:21] <knome> tweeted
[19:22] <pleia2> yeah
[19:22] <pleia2> ty
[19:25] * pleia2 back2work
[21:42] <slickymaster> krytarik, knome, flocculant pushed up to revision 490
[21:43] <slickymaster> weren't you also to do a MP, knome?
[21:44] <flocculant> he did afaik
[21:46] <slickymaster> you're right flocculant, Found it
[21:48] <slickymaster> knome, do you want to wait for krytarik's ack or can I just go ahead and merge https://code.launchpad.net/~knome/xubuntu-docs/startpage-common-libs/+merge/278264?
[21:49] <krytarik> slickymaster: I posted a diff earlier to fix some issues.
[21:50] <krytarik> ( http://paste.openstack.org/show/k6n6d1JB59CwMEMdUtRP/ )
[21:52] <slickymaster> so everything is ok on your side, I assume krytarik
[21:55] <krytarik> slickymaster: It's not applied yet.
[21:57] <slickymaster> it's merged already krytarik
[21:58] <slickymaster> knome's branch is dependent on your branch which is merged npw
[21:58] <slickymaster> * now
[21:58] <krytarik> slickymaster: I'm referring to knome's MP, of course.
[21:59] <slickymaster> missunderstood you
[22:00] <knome> slickymaster, just merge mine when you are ready
[22:00] <knome> slickymaster, krytarik ack's
[22:00] <krytarik> Heh.
[22:01] <knome> krytarik, once he's done, push a new MP with your changes
[22:01] <krytarik> knome: To fix yours?
[22:01] <knome> krytarik, well if there were errors in mine, then yes
[22:02] <knome> krytarik, or whatever you were planning to stack on top of it
[22:04] <slickymaster> done knome
[22:44] <krytarik> knome: Isn't this 'DONE' too?: "[knome] Move the Strategy Document to the contributor documentation with necessary formatting changes: INPROGRESS".
[22:44] <knome> krytarik, yes and no
[22:45] <knome> maybe i should split it up
[22:46] <krytarik> knome: Since you are there, can you set mine to 'DONE' too? :P
[22:47] <knome> lol
[22:47] <knome> done
[22:47] <krytarik> Ta.
[22:48] <krytarik> I was just in the editor then, that is.
[22:48] <knome> ;)=
[22:49] <sidi> oh god i forgot about stupid CSD. Do you allow CSD on Xubuntu or do you force SSD?
[22:50] <Unit193> Luckily Ubuntu patches a few of them out, but otherwise...
[22:50] <sidi> GNOME apps have them?
[22:51] <sidi> (brb going home...)
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[00:58] <ubuntulo12> /save
[00:59] <valorie> nice! good to see you, ubuntulo12
[01:00] <blahdeblah> valorie: Hopefully that should sort out your logging :-)
[01:00] <valorie> thanks, blahdeblah
[01:01] <valorie> I need to op up to remove "logbot requested" from the /topic
[01:01] <valorie> :-)
[02:52] <ahoneybun> thanks valorie
[05:09] <valorie> yw, sorry it took me so long to recall that I said I'd do it
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-nl
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[11:18] <Rob__> hallo allemaal! kan iemand mij helpen / adviseren bij een opstart-probleem?
[11:22] <selckin> altijd gewoon uw vraag stellen op ric
[11:22] <selckin> irc
[11:51] <Rob__> hallo, ik heb Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS net op een Lenovo ThinkPad T410s geinstalleerd, booten gaat 'om en om', een keer goed (naar het keuze menu), andere keer niets (blijft hangen in zwart scherm, moet ik handmatig de laptop 'uit' forceren), wat is hier mogelijk aan de hand?
[17:03] <kip> ik heb heb live usb stick gemaakt om te proberen, alles gaat goed tot dat hij om een wachtwoord vraagt.
[17:05] <kip> Ik ik weet dit niet heeft iemand dat.
[18:15] <kip> ik heb 14.04.3 LTS op een boot usb geinstalleerd voordat ik op het bureaublad kom wordt er gevraagd om usernamen en wachtwoord.
[18:15] <kip> Nu kan ik nergens vinden wat de username is en het wachtwoord weet iemand raad.
[18:18] <lordievader> Hoe heb je de live-usb gemaakt? Als het goed is wordt er niet om een wachtwoord gevraagd.
[18:25] <kip> ja dat klopt ik lees dat ook nergens maar het wordt wel gevraagd dus ik kan niks met ubuntu.
[18:30] <lordievader> Daarom, hoe heb je hem gemaakt?
[18:38] <kip> ik kan zeker beter een nieuwe maken welke versie moet dan downloaden.
[18:40] <lordievader> 14.04 voor stabiel, wil je iets nieuwers 15.10.
[18:41] <kip> Ik heb geen ervaring met ubuntu ik ben windows zat.
[18:41] <kip> en wil wat anders
[18:42] <lordievader> Dan zou ik voor 14.04 gaan als ik jou was.
[18:43] <kip> oke ik weet wat meer ik maak een nieuwe boot usb met 14.04 moet verder nog ergens op letten
[18:45] <edehont> kip: Download Ubuntu van de officiele Ubuntu-site, niet van een willekeurige site met Ubuntu in de naam. :-)
[18:45] <lordievader> Zolang je het niet via Wubi installeerd ben je veilig.
[18:48] <kip> daar heb ik hem ook gedown load http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/download
[18:51] <edehont> Dan ligt het daar in elk geval niet aan.
[18:53] <edehont> Ik heb nog niet meegemaakt dat de Live CD/USB om gebruikersnaam en wachtwoord vraagt.
[18:53] <edehont> Wel dat hij om een gebruikersnaam en wachtwoord vraagt wanneer je al in Ubuntu zat en daar op 'afmelden' klikt.
[18:54] <edehont> Maar dan logt hij toch weer automatisch in met user "ubuntu" na een minuutje of zo.
[18:55] <kip> en dan vraagt hij om een wachtwoord of heb ik iets verkeerd gedaan
[18:56] <JanC> welk wachtwoord vraagt die?
[18:57] <kip> dat weet ik juist niet heb admin geprobeerd en ubuntu zo kan je wel een tijdje doorgaan
[18:57] <edehont> De bedoeling is dat je zonder in te hoeven loggen op de Live desktop terechtkomt.
[18:58] <kip> ik zie nu wel op de usb wubi.exe staan
[18:59] <lordievader> kip: Vermijd wubi.
[18:59] <JanC> is normaal dat die er op staat
[18:59] <kip> ja dat zal ik doen maar wel van de originele site gehaald
[19:01] <edehont> wubi.exe is nog steeds onderdeel van de Ubuntu-distributie. Zolang je boot van de USB en niet rechtstreeks wubi.exe opstart heb je daar geen last van.
[19:02] <edehont> wubi wordt niet meer ondersteund, dus ik snap niet goed waarom het nog meegeleverd wordt.
[19:02] <lordievader> Dat heb ik nooit begrepen. Ook niet toen het wel werd ondersteund.
[19:02] <edehont> :-)
[19:03] <JanC> zo erg is het nu ook weer niet
[19:03] <kip> waar moet ik ubuntu nu wel ophalen
[19:04] <edehont> http://ubuntu-nl.org/download
[19:04] <JanC> of ubuntu.com
[19:15] <edehont> Ik heb wubi in het verleden met plezier gebruikt, maar ben daarbij ook tegen rare problemen aangelopen.
[19:16] <edehont> Als je tegenwoordig linux binnen Windows wilt draaien, is Virtualbox de way to go, denk ik.
[19:17] <JanC> of MS's eigen virtualisatie ding
[19:18] <edehont> Heb ik geen ervaring mee. Is misschien wel laagdrempeliger.
[19:22] <SCHAAP137> Hyper-V is een beetje raar, als je vmware en/of virtualbox gewend bent
[19:43] <kip> nu heb ik ubuntu 14.04 LTS van ubuntu.com gehaald en weer wordt er om een usename en password gevraagd die ik dus niet heb wat nu
[19:43] <lordievader> Hoe maak je jouw live-usb's?
[19:47] <OerHeks> als jein de live cd in schermbeveiliging valt, is usernaam ubuntu en passwoord leeg
[19:48] <OerHeks> maar dat benik nooit tegen gekomen
[19:55] <kip> gelukt ubuntu en password leeg bedankt
[19:57] <OerHeks> :-)
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[16:45] <greg-g> "actually having a real conversation with the producer of a radio show via twitter" is yet another reason why indie talk radio is best
[16:45] <greg-g> thisishell.com fwiw
[23:08] <greg-g> I love the Boot Liquor station on SomaFM. Current lyrics: "If I can't be the love of your life, I'll be the life of your party"
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2015-11-23-#ubuntu-pt
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[22:08] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.770933
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-se
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[00:55] <Dynamit> vet att inte Krawlezt är närvarande men man kan ju alltid programmera homebrew till Wii med maskinen
[00:55] <Dynamit> haha
[00:56] <Dynamit> Det är en av sakerna jag gör sedan så när jag har tråkigt så ser jag om folk är naiva och snyltar på öppet nätverk som bara
[00:56] <Dynamit> helt plötsligt finns i närheten
[00:56] <Dynamit> men mina grannar är rätt tråkiga
[00:57] <Dynamit> nästan ingen går på det förutom stackars nötter med iPhone's som inte kan göra någonting ändå för att trafiken de skickar droppas hela tiden
[00:57] <Dynamit> för att det inte går igenom port 80 haha
[00:58] <Dynamit> Bättre inne i stan där kan man fasiken lura folk ge en vilken jäkla information som helst utan att ens anstränga sig
[00:58] <Dynamit> att försöka maskera att något är fuffens
[12:48] <molgrum> får inte igång min VPN på datorn, någon mer som har detta problemet?
[12:57] <andol> molgrum: Rätt säker på att du kommer att behöva vara mer specifik. a) Vilken sorts VPN rör dte sig om. b) I vilket steg vill det sig inte?
[12:57] * andol kör just nu OpenVPN via NetworkManager.
[12:57] <molgrum> det är Lex Integrity, Bahnhofs tjänst
[12:57] <molgrum> kan pejsta lite loggar
[13:01] <andol> Ska lyssna på presenation nu, så kommer att försvinna nu, men förhoppningsvis kan någon annan hjäpa till.
[13:01] <molgrum> http://pastebin.com/vT1J5Qhp
[13:01] <molgrum> okej andol!
[13:19] <molgrum> jag har löst problemet
[13:19] <molgrum> inget från ubuntus sida
[16:03] <molgrum> funkar detta för er? https://askubuntu.com/questions/12383/how-to-go-automatically-from-suspend-into-hibernate
[16:04] <molgrum> om någon har provat
[16:04] <molgrum> eller vill prova ;)
[16:05] <molgrum> för mig så startar bara datorn igen
[16:38] <molgrum> jaha, det var för jag inte hade aktiverat swap..
[17:02] <molgrum> när jag kör pm-hibernate (nu har jag 8GiB swap) så tänds skärmen igen efter att den slocknat med detta:
[17:02] <molgrum> [drm:r600_ring_test] *ERROR* radeon: ring 0 test failed (scratch(0x850C)=0xCAFEDEAD)
[17:02] <molgrum> [drm:si_resume] *ERROR* si startup failed on resume
[17:03] <molgrum> sen är det power off tydligen för jag hamnar i bootloadern när jag sätter på datorn igen
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-us-ca
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[04:07] <The_Letter_M> Hello
[20:32] <MichaelPaoli> Berkeley Linux Users Group (BerkeleyLUG) - meeting now - noon - 3pm @ Bobby G's Pizzeria http://berkeleylug.com/meetings/
[20:32] <darthrobot> Title: [Meetings | BerkeleyLUG]
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-ru
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[10:13] <pr0mode> дня
[11:06] <tomfarr> дарова пипол
[11:07] <tomfarr> у меня такой вопрос: У меня установлена убунта 15.04, обновленная из 14.10. Все работает. Что с этим делать?
[11:08] <UNIm95> tomfarr: Страдать.
[11:09] <tomfarr> Будет сделанно!
[14:38] <Leagnus> не не, лучче поставь Windows 95
[15:31] <alexandr> Доброго времени суток! В shutter проблема с кириллицей. Если русские имена окон, то отображаются крякозябры. Кубунту 15.10. Подскажите пожалуйста, в какую сторону копать?
[15:37] <UNIm95> alexandr: какую кодировку ставил?
[16:14] * alexandr msg UNIm95 в кодировку не лез вообще. Все стоит по умолчанию. locale говорит вот что http://pastebin.ru/MbkR5wtW
[16:15] <UNIm95> alexandr: А в каких приложения это происходит?
[16:16] <tagezi> LANGUAGE=ru:en_US <- старнная строка
[16:17] * alexandr msg UNIm95 shutter, больше ни где проблем не заметил
[16:18] <UNIm95> tagezi: а я и просмотрел.
[16:18] <UNIm95> alexandr: Косяк указан
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-il
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[08:06] <Darky_> בוקר טוב
[08:29] <Darky_> בוקר טוב
[09:26] <tzafrir> בוקר אור
[10:39] <Darky_> איזה אח הצ'אנסרב הזה
[10:45] <Ardethian> <3
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"Darky_",
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-it
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[07:38] <HoloIRCUser1> Kabrador, volevo ringraziarti
[07:38] <HoloIRCUser1> Ho risolto =)
[08:50] <peppinovesuviano> buon giorno .
[08:51] <peppinovesuviano> non riesco a installare la mia stampante perchè il sistema non trova il comando
[08:51] <peppinovesuviano> cè qualcuno in chat che mi può aiutare '
[08:51] <peppinovesuviano> ??
[08:51] <peppinovesuviano> per paicere ?
[08:51] <peppinovesuviano> piacere !
[08:54] <peppinovesuviano> questo e il canale di supporto '
[08:54] <peppinovesuviano> ????
[08:58] <ExPBoy> !dettagli | peppinovesuviano
[08:58] <ubot-it> peppinovesuviano: Per favore dacci dettagli completi. Per esempio "Ho un problema con..., sto usando Ubuntu versione... con interfaccia.... Quando provo a fare..., ottengo questo output: ..., ma mi sarei aspettato che facesse..."
[08:59] <peppinovesuviano> allora io quando vado a installare la stampante non la installa perchè non trova il comando
[08:59] <ExPBoy> peppinovesuviano, non mi hai detto niente
[08:59] <peppinovesuviano> questo e il problema
[08:59] <ExPBoy> che ubuntu usi che stampante è
[09:00] <peppinovesuviano> mfc 215 c
[09:00] <ExPBoy> cosa fai per installarla
[09:00] <peppinovesuviano> e una multi funzione
[09:00] <ExPBoy> si ma se non so la marca e il modello e che ubuntu usi non posso fare niente
[09:00] <ExPBoy> !veggenti | peppinovesuviano
[09:00] <ubot-it> peppinovesuviano: Gli utenti di questo canale non sono in possesso di poteri magici, non possiedono sfere di cristallo e non sono nemmeno veggenti. Canonical non può permettersi un corso di stregoneria per i suoi collaboratori. Si chiede quindi, gentilmente, di esprimersi in maniera chiara e molto dettagliata.
[09:01] <peppinovesuviano> ma ti serve la versione ?
[09:01] <peppinovesuviano> del mio sistema operativo ?
[09:01] <ExPBoy> peppinovesuviano, che è un segreto militare?
[09:02] <peppinovesuviano> 12.04 lts 32 bit
[09:02] <peppinovesuviano> sono andato a vedere le caratteristiche
[09:03] <peppinovesuviano> 12.04 LTS 32 BIT
[10:03] <albo88> ciao
[10:03] <albo88> !list
[10:03] <ubot-it> questo non è un canale per scaricare o di condivisione di contenuti
[10:03] <albo88> scusate
[10:39] <h_boyz> Buongiorno a tutti!
[10:40] <h_boyz> Kubuntu 14.04.3 LTS impossibile regolare luminosità.Applet funziona luminosità non cambia.Gia visto molte guide senza risultato.
[10:40] <h_boyz> Grazie in anticipo.
[10:40] <cristian_c> h_boyz: definisci molte guide
[10:41] <h_boyz> cristian_c: ho seguito vari how-to che dicevano di aggiungere comandi al file grub
[10:41] <pippo> buon giorno a tutti
[10:42] <cristian_c> h_boyz: quali comandi? Esattamente, cos'hai fatto?
[10:42] <ExPBoy> al brub?
[10:42] <ExPBoy> ops grub
[10:42] <h_boyz> al momento sono alla posizione di partenza
[10:42] <ExPBoy> h_boyz, non penso il grub influisca sulla luminosità
[10:42] <h_boyz> ho cancellato le varie modifiche
[10:43] <cristian_c> h_boyz: puoi gentilmente rispondere alle domande?
[10:43] <h_boyz> si scusa, stavo cercando la riga da postare
[10:43] <h_boyz> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= "quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor"
[10:44] <pippo> dopo un arresto anomalo non mi riconosce la password (ubuntu 15), tramite videoguida con root ho cambiato la passwd ma ancora non riconosce
[10:44] <cristian_c> h_boyz: e poi, cos'hai fatto?
[10:44] <h_boyz> ho disinstallato e reinstallato i driver proprietari
[10:44] <h_boyz> ma nulla
[10:44] <ExPBoy> !pass | pippo
[10:44] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'pass'
[10:44] <ExPBoy> !psw
[10:44] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'psw'
[10:44] <ExPBoy> !password
[10:44] <ubot-it> Per recuperare la password seguire le indicazioni che trovate su http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Sicurezza/GestionePassword/Recupero
[10:44] <cristian_c> pippo: mi sembra di aver già letto questa richiesta
[10:45] <pippo> si ieri
[10:45] <pippo> ho gi
[10:46] <pippo> ho già fatto la procedura e l'ho cambiata correttamente ma quando riavvio continua a dare l'errore di ieri
[10:46] <ExPBoy> pippo, hai sbagliato qualcosa
[10:47] <h_boyz> cristian_c: in più col comando ls /sys/class/backlight/ ottengo http://paste.ubuntu.com/13193042/
[10:47] <pippo> penso di no, perchè ho fatto anche la verifica del cambio mentre ero in root passo passo come nel video
[10:48] <cristian_c> pippo: eri tu che digitavi i comandi errati
[10:48] <ExPBoy> pippo, ok allora se hai fatto correttamente e non va abbiamo bisogno di un esorcista
[10:48] <pippo> si ero io poi con il video ho capito bene dove mettere gli spasi giusti
[10:49] <cristian_c> h_boyz: esattamente , cos'hai fatto dopo aver modificato e salvato /etc/default/grub?
[10:49] <h_boyz> ho riavviato, visto che non funzionava ho rimesso tutto come era
[10:50] <h_boyz> cristian_c: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13193056/
[10:50] <cristian_c> h_boyz: la modifica non serve a niente, se non viene applicata
[10:51] <pippo> mi sa che formatto e reinstallo non riesco a trovare soluzioni ......
[10:51] <h_boyz> si scusa ho fatto anche uptade-grub2
[10:51] <ExPBoy> uptade?
[10:51] <cristian_c> pippo: forse hai preso discretamente preso a martellate l'os
[10:52] <cristian_c> pippo: anche perché non sappiamo quali guide e come le hai seguite
[10:52] <h_boyz> ExPBoy: update... pardon
[10:52] <ExPBoy> :)
[10:52] <cristian_c> h_boyz: di quale pc parliamo?
[10:52] <ExPBoy> h_boyz, hai un tasto dedicato alla luminosità?
[10:52] <ExPBoy> eh
[10:53] <cristian_c> h_boyz: e come hai installato i driver?
[10:53] <h_boyz> cristian_c: notebook sony vaio vpc-f12s1e
[10:53] <h_boyz> cristian_c: tramite gestore driver, e se non sbaglio prima funzionava
[10:53] <cristian_c> h_boyz: in live i tasti fn+ luminosità funzionano?
[10:53] <h_boyz> si
[10:53] <cristian_c> h_boyz: prima di cosa?
[10:54] <cristian_c> martellate 2, la vendetta
[10:54] <h_boyz> cristian_c: ma i tasti funzionano, mi appare la barra che cambia percentuale,ma non varia la luminosità
[10:54] <h_boyz> cristian_c: prima di attivare i driver nvidia
[10:55] <ExPBoy> sicuro di avere nvidia?
[10:55] <cristian_c> h_boyz: con gli open non ci sono problemi?
[10:55] <cristian_c> ExPBoy: ehehe
[10:56] <h_boyz> dovrei rimuoverli per scrupolo, ma appena installato il sistema andava,poi dopo aggiornamenti e driver proprietari ha smesso
[10:56] <cristian_c> h_boyz: sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[10:57] <h_boyz> ExPBoy: il pc ha una doppia scheda, intel e nvidia gt330
[11:00] <h_boyz> cristian_c: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13193096/
[11:01] <cristian_c> h_boyz: cat /etc/apt/sources.list && ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[11:01] <cristian_c> !paste | h_boyz
[11:01] <ubot-it> h_boyz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[11:05] <h_boyz> cristian_c: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13193133/ e http://paste.ubuntu.com/13193138/
[11:06] <cristian_c> eb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-proposed restricted main universe multiverse
[11:06] <cristian_c> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-proposed restricted main universe multiverse
[11:06] <cristian_c> h_boyz: perché hai attivato i repo proposed?
[11:07] <cristian_c> e perché hai aggiunto questi: gezakovacs-ppa-trusty.list e kubuntu-ppa-ppa-trusty.list ?
[11:07] <h_boyz> cristian_c: forse quando ho attivato gli altri ho cliccato senza pensare
[11:08] <h_boyz> :(
[11:08] <h_boyz> cristian_c: devo toglierli?
[11:08] <cristian_c> h_boyz: male, è la prima causa di un os andato a rotoli, il 'non pensare'
[11:09] <cristian_c> h_boyz: i proposed li puoi disattivare, ma non ti aspettare una buona proobabilità di risolvere
[11:09] <cristian_c> probabilità
[11:10] <h_boyz> cristian_c: devo darti ragione,anche se è un po che uso kubuntu sono ancora molto inesperto.
[11:10] <cristian_c> perché ormai la frittata è forse fatta
[11:10] <cristian_c> h_boyz: a maggior ragione, la peggiore cosa che puoi fare è affidarti a 'risorse esterne' a ubuntu
[11:11] <cristian_c> !documentazione | segui la doc ufficiale, h_boyz
[11:11] <ubot-it> segui la doc ufficiale, h_boyz: Documentazione ufficiale http://help.ubuntu-it.org - Documentazione della comunità http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Documentazione - Gruppo documentazione: pagina principale http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/GruppoDocumentazione
[11:12] <h_boyz> cristian_c: capito...tolto la spunta da proposti
[11:12] <cristian_c> h_boyz: ricarica i repo e prega
[11:17] <h_boyz> cristian_c: repo ricaricati
[11:18] <h_boyz> cristian_c: per tornare coi driver di prima installazione,mi confermi che devo scegliere i nouveau e non i legacy
[11:19] <cristian_c> h_boyz: i driver proprietari non sono attivi di default
[11:19] <cristian_c> h_boyz: quindi, scegli un po' tu quali installare
[11:19] <cristian_c> da Driver aggiuntivi
[11:20] <cristian_c> ed è meglio, generalmente, selezionare quelli 'testati' o 'raccomandati'
[11:20] <h_boyz> allora al momento sono gli nvidia evidenziati come raccomandati dal sistema
[11:21] <h_boyz> nvidia 340.93
[11:21] <cristian_c> h_boyz: allora. installa quelli
[11:21] <cristian_c> ma, ripeto, disattivare i proposed, ormai, potrebbe non avere più effetti positivi
[11:21] <cristian_c> perché troppo tardi
[11:22] <h_boyz> ok. tento un riavvio e ti ricontatto tra qualche minuto. se non va reinstallo
[11:22] <cristian_c> h_boyz: o vai di ripristinp
[11:22] <cristian_c> o
[11:23] <h_boyz> qui in caso ho bisogno di un aiutino....comunque ora provo
[12:23] <Zimir10> buongiorno
[12:23] <Zimir10> c'è qualcuno
[12:24] <cristian_c> !qualcuno | Zimir10
[12:24] <ubot-it> Zimir10: la maggior parte delle prime domande fatte in questo canale è del tipo «qualcuno puo' aiutarmi/qualcuno ha tempo/qualcuno usa...?». Fate la vostra domanda tecnica e se qualcuno sa, rispondera'
[12:26] <Zimir10> volevo installare ubuntu 14.04 su un pavilion dv6. ho formattato il device usb, ho caricato il file iso con unebootin poi sono entrata nel bios impostando usb drive al primo posto. Tuttavia parte sempre windows e la schermata principale di ubuntu non si avvia
[12:28] <franco79> salve o un problema con windows 7 mi anno consigliato in vari siti di installare ubuntu per risolvere il problema potreste aiutarmi
[12:28] <cristian_c> !usbwin | Zimir10
[12:28] <ubot-it> Zimir10: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[12:29] <cristian_c> franco79: per favore, metti qualche 'h' in più al posto giusto, che mi sanguinano gli occhi
[12:30] <cristian_c> !aiuto | franco79
[12:30] <ubot-it> franco79: per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-)
[12:30] <franco79> praticamente mi dice si e verificato un problema durante la comunicazione con un dispositivo collegato al computer stato 0xc00000e9 grazie
[12:31] <cristian_c> franco79: mi spieghi il nesso con ubuntu?
[12:31] <franco79> se scarico ubuntu risolvo almeno il recuperodei file ?
[12:31] <ExPBoy> !veggenti | franco79
[12:31] <ubot-it> franco79: Gli utenti di questo canale non sono in possesso di poteri magici, non possiedono sfere di cristallo e non sono nemmeno veggenti. Canonical non può permettersi un corso di stregoneria per i suoi collaboratori. Si chiede quindi, gentilmente, di esprimersi in maniera chiara e molto dettagliata.
[12:32] <cristian_c> franco79: non necessariamente ubuntu
[12:32] <cristian_c> una qualunque distro live
[12:32] <cristian_c> che possa accedere al disco
[12:32] <franco79> si ma non c'e bisogno di fare tanti giri di parole o formulato una domanda per installare ubuntu, non siamo mica ad un colloquio penitenziario, io non sono tanto bravo di pc o solamente chiuesto se possibile un aiuto
[12:36] <krabador> franco79: c'è bisogno che , per avere una risposta chiara, tu indichi cosa ti devi fare
[12:36] <krabador> riparare il pc , recuperare i dati
[12:36] <krabador> non sei stato chiaro.
[12:37] <h_boyz> cristian_c: riavviato, ma niente da fare , applet funziona luminosità no
[12:37] <h_boyz> può influire il cambio tra kdm e lightdm?
[12:38] <cristian_c> !ripristino | h_boyz
[12:38] <ubot-it> h_boyz: Per ripristinare un sistema danneggiato: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/RipristinoInstallazione
[12:38] <cristian_c> h_boyz: che evidentemente i danni da ppa, ma sopratutto da proposed, sono più grossi del previsto
[12:39] <h_boyz> ok.... :( mi cimento
[12:39] <h_boyz> grazie mille per il supporto
[12:39] <franco79> praticamente vorrei recuperare solo i file perche' o foto della nascita dei miei bambini e quello mi interessa di piu'
[12:40] <cristian_c> h_boyz: se ci sono problemi nel menù dell'installer, chiedi pure qui
[12:40] <h_boyz> ok grazie ancora.
[12:40] <franco79> mi dice di premere invio , poi mi riporta sempre nella schermata nera non si avvia
[12:41] <krabador> franco79: se il disco è fisicamente danneggiato, o il sistema non riesce fisicamente a rilevarlo, non c'è niente che possiamo fare qui .
[12:42] <krabador> altri problemi hardware, non c'è niente che possiamo fare qui
[12:42] <franco79> quindi se cambio sistema operativo e installo ubuntu non risolvo la cosa ?
[12:42] <krabador> sto cercando di spiegati
[12:42] <krabador> spiegarti
[12:43] <krabador> che se i danni sono fisici , non puoi installare un sistema operativo
[12:43] <krabador> scarica lubuntu , fa un supporto di installazione , fallo partire in avvio della macchina
[12:44] <krabador> seleziona la sessione di prova
[12:44] <franco79> ok grazie
[12:44] <krabador> da li, se il disco è accessibile , lo puoi vedere .
[13:39] <Zimir10> ho provato a installare il file iso di ubuntu 14.04 con universal usb installer, ma ancora non ho risolto il problema
[13:42] <Zimir10> il driver usb è stato precedentemente formattato in fat 32
[13:47] <bolt00100> ciao raga in ubuntu 14 avevo attivato un tasto simile a quello start di window oggi ho messo il 15 e non ricordo come riattivare il tastino
[14:10] <Dido> problema con virtual box non riesco a montare periferiche usb ubuntu 15.10
[14:10] <Dido> ubuntu 15.10 sistema madre, e win 7 su virtual box
[14:14] <krabador> Dido: leggi la documentazione virtualbox, nelle loro risorse ufficiali
[14:16] <bolt00100> ciao krabador in ubuntu 14 avevo attivato un tasto simile a quello start di window oggi ho messo il 15 e non ricordo come riattivare il tastino potresti aiutarmi GRAZIE
[14:23] <fa> ciao,ho formattato e installato 14.04.03.con il com. fdisk da terminale mi vede tutti gli hd però sul desk mi manca
[14:24] <Drugo> Ciao a tutti e buona domenica, ho da poco installato ubuntu mate 15, non riesco a installare chormium, sulle altre versioni ci riesco facile qui no, potete aiutrmi?
[14:32] <partenopeo> come faccio a trovare la directory?
[14:32] <partenopeo> sto provando ad installare la mia brother ma il terminale mi dice che non trova la directory
[14:32] <partenopeo> qualcuno mi può aiutare?
[14:58] <h_boyz> cristian_c: buongiorno di nuovo!
[14:59] <h_boyz> cristian_c: nel menu installazione non ho trovato i riferimenti ad aggiornamento, ma avendo una partizione libera ho fatto una installazione pulita
[15:00] <h_boyz> cristian_c: al momento out of the box funziona tutto(credo...) , ora passo passo reinstallo i driver e tutto ciò che mi occorre, verificando di volta in volta cosa crea il problema
[15:01] <cristian_c> h_boyz: tieni da conto il discorso sui ppa
[15:01] <h_boyz> cristian_c: P.s. proposed non attivato stavolta....grazie ancora. Torno in caso di problemi.Sei stato gentilissimo
[15:01] <cristian_c> e sui proposed, fatto prima
[15:01] <cristian_c> h_boyz: in bocca al lupo
[15:01] <krabador> partenopeo: non accetto privati, sono disabilitati , parla in canale
[15:02] <partenopeo> scusa non lo sapevo
[15:02] <h_boyz> cristian_c: si, anzichè seguire le guide a iosa come in precedenza, cerchero di attenermi solo a doc ufficiale o canali come questo, e di installare/configurare solo quello che mi occorre,gli esperimenti li faccio nell'altra installazione... :-)
[15:02] <partenopeo> ma vi e una possibilità di aiuto per l'istallazione della mia stampante ?
[15:02] <h_boyz> cristian_c: ...viva la lupa
[15:04] <partenopeo> krabador ma mi puoi aiutare ?
[15:04] <cristian_c> h_boyz: sì, c'è anche askubuntu e il servizio "Chiedi", oltre ovviamente a questo canale
[15:04] <cristian_c> per eventuali dubbi
[15:33] <Valerio1> buonasera a tutti, sono nuovo nel mondo di ubuntu vorrei avere informazioni da qualcuno senza dare disturbo, chi a voglia di parlare?
[15:34] <h_boyz> cristian_c: trovato inghippo ma non so come risolvere....appena installo driver proprietar la regolazione della luminosità smette di funzionare
[15:34] <krabador> Valerio1: è un interrogatorio?
[15:35] <krabador> Valerio1: stai puntando il faro in faccia?
[15:35] <krabador> !chiedi | Valerio1
[15:35] <ubot-it> Valerio1: per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-)
[15:36] <Valerio1> vorrei sostituire windows con ubuntu, la versione 15.10 è in italiano?
[15:36] <krabador> Valerio1: si
[15:36] <krabador> ed in tante altre lingue
[15:38] <cristian_c> h_boyz: in live, invece?
[15:38] <Valerio1> in passato ho avuto problemi con i driver della stampante con la versione 12.4 tls per una canon, oggi ha gia di default molti driver oppure bisogna scaricarli?r
[15:38] <cristian_c> sempre 14.04.3?
[15:39] <cristian_c> h_boyz: esattamente, quali driver hai installato?
[15:39] <cristian_c> Valerio1: fai una cosa, collega la stampante
[15:39] <h_boyz> cristian_c: si, installazione pulita,abilito repo, faccio upgrade,tutto ok...installo driver smette di funzionare
[15:39] <cristian_c> Valerio1: aggijngila alla lista e prova
[15:39] <cristian_c> è la prima cosa da fare
[15:39] <Valerio1> ok
[15:40] <h_boyz> cristian_c: ho provato anche i legacy ma niente
[15:40] <krabador> Valerio1: puoi farlo anche in live, la sessione di prova
[15:40] <Valerio1> ok
[15:40] <cristian_c> Valerio1: solo successivamente, scarichi i driver dal sito canon, se non viene riconosciuta
[15:40] <cristian_c> h_boyz: 'abilito repo' <- che repo?
[15:41] <h_boyz> cristian_c: tutti tranne proposed
[15:41] <cristian_c> h_boyz: quali hai attivato, manualmente?
[15:41] <Valerio1> si interfaccia bene con i file di windows in word, exel?
[15:41] <krabador> Valerio1: libreoffice apre office
[15:42] <Valerio1> ok.
[15:42] <krabador> a meno che i files non sfruttino capacità esclusive di office , in versioni specifiche
[15:42] <krabador> on continua compatibili d'azione
[15:42] <krabador> compatibilizzazione
[15:43] <krabador> Valerio1: fa il supporto
[15:43] <krabador> prova direttamente in live queste cose
[15:43] <krabador> tutte le cose che ti servono
[15:43] <Valerio1> attualmente su windows uso acrobat 9 pro con il quale riesco a fare dei lavori di divisione pagine scansionate o unione, con l'adobe di ubuntu si riesce a fare questo tipo di lavori?
[15:43] <Valerio1> ok grazie proverò...
[15:44] <cristian_c> Valerio1: adobe reader non è più supportato
[15:44] <Valerio1> per i file in pdf c'è un programma simile che permete cio che ho scritto sopra?
[15:45] <cristian_c> Valerio1: fai una cosa, tu intanto prova
[15:45] <h_boyz> cristian_c: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13195713/
[15:46] <Valerio1> cristian_c grazie di tutto, molto gentile.
[15:46] <cristian_c> Valerio1: ma per tutto ciò che non riesci a fare in ubuntu sia con applicazioni open che closed, utilizza direttamente windows, in dual boot
[15:47] <Valerio1> no, il punto è che vorrei lasciare definitivamente windows, mi ha stancato con i falsi aggiornamenti solo per una questione di speculazione...
[15:47] <Valerio1> ongi 2 mesi esce una nuova versione.
[15:47] <cristian_c> Valerio1: se devi lavorare , 'sul serio'
[15:47] <Valerio1> e nasta con windows...
[15:47] <cristian_c> non ti fai questi problemi, dual boot, e vivi felice
[15:47] <Valerio1> ok grazie.
[15:47] <Valerio1> ciao alla prossima...
[15:48] <krabador> Valerio1: e con 10 è molto peggio . Hai anche le macchine virtuali, in cado
[15:48] <krabador> csdo
[15:48] <krabador> caso
[15:48] <Valerio1> grazie.
[15:56] <cristian_c> h_boyz: quindi, non ne hai attivato nessuno, manualmente?
[15:56] <h_boyz> cristian_c: ho spuntato da gestore aggiornamenti
[15:57] <cristian_c> h_boyz: che cosa hai spuntato?
[15:58] <h_boyz> cristian_c: tutte le fonti software tranne proposed
[16:00] <cristian_c> h_boyz: ma non erano attive in modo predefinito?
[16:01] <h_boyz> source e multiverse no
[16:03] <Carlin0> h_boyz, source lo puoi anche disabilitare
[16:03] <h_boyz> Carlin0: come mai? Per conoscenza non per sfiducia
[16:04] <krabador> h_boyz: serve solo se vuoi i sorgenti dei pacchetti
[16:04] <cristian_c> !repository | h_boyz
[16:04] <ubot-it> h_boyz: Guida ai repository: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Repository e http://help.ubuntu-it.org/8.04/ubuntu/add-applications/it/extra-repositories.html | Esempio di sources.list http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Repository/SourcesList | Da Kubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Repository/Kubuntu
[16:04] <Carlin0> pacchetti di cui gli altri repo ti forniscono già i *.deb
[16:05] <h_boyz> krabador: Carlin0 ok capito
[16:05] <h_boyz> cristian_c: grazie del link
[16:05] <cristian_c> h_boyz: hai il problema con tutti i driver proprietari dei repository ufficiali?
[16:05] <Andrea4> Salve vorrei sapere come poter disinstallare Ubuntu 14.02 dal mio computer portatile hp pavilion dv5 e ripristinare il boot di windows vista che sarebbe anche il sistema operativo vergine
[16:06] <cristian_c> Andrea4: vorrai dire 14.04
[16:06] <Andrea4> si ora non so bene quale versione pero si e quella
[16:07] <krabador> Andrea4: leggi il manuale del notebook
[16:07] <h_boyz> cristian_c: ho provato nvidia raccomandato 304.93,nvidia legacy updates 304.128
[16:07] <krabador> per ripristinare le impostazioni di fabbrica
[16:08] <pavlz> installa GNU/linux gNewSense da http://gnewsense.org
[16:08] <Andrea4> diciamo in parole povere vorrei togliere ubuntu
[16:08] <h_boyz> cristian_c: non ho provato nouveau e legacy normali
[16:09] <cristian_c> h_boyz: scusa, ma i nouveau sono attivi di default, giusto?
[16:09] <krabador> Andrea4: ti ho risposto
[16:09] <Andrea4> non ho piu il manuale cartaceo
[16:09] <pavlz> appunto installa GNU/linux gNewSense, è priva di blobs, esclusivamente 100% Software Libero
[16:09] <krabador> Andrea4: il web è grande
[16:10] <krabador> Andrea4: ed hp ha un bel sito
[16:10] <h_boyz> cristian_c: quando ho aperto driver menager me li dava selezionabili
[16:10] <pavlz> vain nel main ed usa solo il main
[16:11] <cristian_c> pavlz: scusa, ma cosa c'entra questo
[16:11] <krabador> !chat | pavlz
[16:11] <ubot-it> pavlz: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[16:11] <cristian_c> col supporto a ubuntu'
[16:11] <cristian_c> ?
[16:11] <Andrea4> grazie menomale che siete gente esperta
[16:12] <krabador> Andrea4: qui si da supporto SD ubuntu
[16:12] <krabador> ad
[16:12] <krabador> Andrea4: non si riparano PC gratis
[16:12] <Andrea4> non ho chiesto una riparazione ma come disinstallarlo
[16:13] <pavlz> non sa usare una distribuzione e ve la prendete con me ? Questo è il risultato di aver portato l'informatica a tutti senza una benché minima preparazione
[16:13] <cristian_c> h_boyz: non erano già selezionati i nouveau, appena installata ubuntu?
[16:13] <krabador> !chat | pavlz
[16:13] <ubot-it> pavlz: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[16:14] <h_boyz> cristian_c: no, ma anche adesso se provo a selezionarli, quando ha finito mi ripresenta tutte le voci non selezionate, quindi credo sia solo un problema di flag che non si vede
[16:14] <h_boyz> una sorta di bug della gui....boh
[16:15] <cristian_c> uhm
[16:15] <cristian_c> h_boyz: puoi avviare una live?
[16:16] <h_boyz> cristian_c: se vuoi si, ma come ti dicevo sia in live che appena installato tutto ok. dimmi tu
[16:16] <h_boyz> cristian_c: tempo di riavviare
[16:17] <cristian_c> h_boyz: sì, riavvia in live
[16:17] <cristian_c> e collegati qui dalla live
[16:27] <h_boyz> cristian_c: ora sono in live
[16:29] <cristian_c> h_boyz: allora
[16:29] <cristian_c> h_boyz: apri un terminale
[16:29] <cristian_c> h_boyz: e digita: lshw -C video
[16:30] <cristian_c> !paste | h_boyz
[16:30] <ubot-it> h_boyz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[16:31] <h_boyz> cristian_c: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13196194/
[16:32] <h_boyz> cristian_c: invece se lo do con sudo come consigliato dal terminale http://paste.ubuntu.com/13196220/
[16:34] <cristian_c> configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0
[16:34] <cristian_c> h_boyz: stai usando i nouveau, in live
[16:34] <cristian_c> si presume anche sul sistema appena installato
[16:35] <h_boyz> cristian_c: concordo,anche se ti confermo che se apro gestore driver sono tutte deselezionate
[16:36] <h_boyz> cristian_c: e che se dal sistema installato riseleziono i nouveau e riavvio continua a non funzionare
[16:37] <h_boyz> cristian_c: provare a scaricare direttamente da nvidia???che dici
[16:37] <krabador> h_boyz, hai installato nvidia, hai disinstallato adesso ?
[16:38] <krabador> h_boyz, entra in console di recovery, con la seconda scelta dall'alto, e di nuovo la seconda scelta dall'alto , in grub. Se grub non appare in avvio, accendi ed all'accensione premi continuamente shift destro
[16:40] <h_boyz> krabador: ho provato a selezionare nouveau dal manager e riavviare. ora provo come dici. menu recovery da grub e poi seconda dall'alto
[16:41] <krabador> h_boyz, no
[16:41] <krabador> h_boyz, grub, seconda dall'alto, di nuovo seconda dall'alto
[16:41] <krabador> fa attenzione
[16:41] <krabador> altrimenti non andiamo da nessuna parte
[16:42] <h_boyz> krabador: seconda dall'alto credo di avere win, ma riavvio e provo subito
[16:42] <krabador> h_boyz, hai "opzioni avanzate"
[16:42] <h_boyz> krabador: tempo di eseguire
[16:42] <fa> ciao,ho formattato e installato 14.04.03.con il com. fdisk da terminale mi vede tutti gli hd però sul desk me ne manca 1
[16:43] <krabador> fa, apri "gestore files"
[16:43] <krabador> vedi quanti te ne vede
[16:43] <fa> dove lo trovo ?
[16:43] <krabador> fa, ...
[16:43] <krabador> ti sei domandato che icone ci sono a sinistra?
[16:45] <fa> ne manca 1
[16:45] <krabador> fa, non hai risposto
[16:45] <krabador> ti sei domandato le icone a sinistra a cosa servono ?
[16:45] <fa> ok ce ne sono tre
[16:46] <krabador> fa, il gestore files
[16:46] <krabador> intendo
[16:46] <krabador> l'hai trovato?
[16:46] <krabador> fa hai installato ubuntu o derivata
[16:46] <h_boyz> Krabador: ok ci sono
[16:46] <fa> è il cassetto con le cartelle dentro?
[16:47] <fa> ubuntu
[16:47] <krabador> fa, bene, aprilo , e vedi quante risorse ti vede nel menu di sinistra
[16:47] <krabador> fa, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[16:47] <krabador> da terminale
[16:47] <krabador> fa, sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[16:47] <krabador> quest'ultimo fa un link
[16:47] <krabador> incollalo qui
[16:47] <cristian_c> h_boyz:
[16:48] <cristian_c> h_boyz: sei in shell di root con rete?
[16:49] <krabador> h_boyz, dal menu di recovery devi attaccare il cavo lan, selezionare networking
[16:49] <krabador> successivamente root
[16:49] <fa> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13196464/
[16:50] <krabador> fa, c'è un /dev/sdc apparentemente non partizionato
[16:52] <fa> si ,prima lo leggeva,la formattazione no.perdo i dati?
[16:52] <fa> dopo no
[16:52] <krabador> fa, semplicemente
[16:52] <krabador> cosa credi che ci sia dentro?
[16:52] <krabador> è partizionato e non lo vede come tale?
[16:52] <krabador> che cosa c'hai fatto ?
[16:52] <krabador> !dettagli | fa
[16:52] <ubot-it> fa: Per favore dacci dettagli completi. Per esempio "Ho un problema con..., sto usando Ubuntu versione... con interfaccia.... Quando provo a fare..., ottengo questo output: ..., ma mi sarei aspettato che facesse..."
[16:53] <krabador> se no ci giriamo i pollici
[16:53] <h_boyz> Krabador: fatto ma devo impostare la maschera direte se voglio essere collegato. Come faccio da qui
[16:53] <krabador> h_boyz, a cosa sei collegato?
[16:54] <fa> dentro ci sono dati ,foto non ho fatto nulla
[16:54] <krabador> h_boyz, selezionando networking, hai avuto dei messaggi, cosa dicevano ?
[16:54] <h_boyz> Ti scrivo da un cellulare adesso.il pc è collegato ad un router ma devo fornire IP e gateway manualmente
[16:54] <fa> con la versione 14.04 lts di prima me lo vedeva normalmente
[16:55] <krabador> h_boyz, hai rete statica?
[16:55] <h_boyz> Si
[16:55] <krabador> fa, si, e che cosa hai fatto?
[16:55] <krabador> fa, un installazione non tocca niente, a meno che non sia l'utente a non farlo, durante l'installazione stessa
[16:55] <h_boyz> Ora vado su root. Ma non conosco i comandi da terminale per impostare la rete
[16:56] <krabador> fa, quando si installa, è consigliabile , se non si è esperti, staccare tutte le unità tranne quella in cui deve finire l'installazione ed il bootloader, sempre che non ci siano altre unità che contengono sistemi che si vogliono includere nel bootloader
[16:56] <krabador> h_boyz, selezionando networking, hai avuto dei messaggi, cosa dicevano ?
[16:57] <krabador> fa, che file system c'era in quel disco ?
[16:57] <h_boyz> Non ho fatto in tempo a leggere.
[16:57] <h_boyz> Ma credo sia andato a buon fine.
[16:58] <fa> ho sempre scelto l'hd da 60 per il s.o. e solo dopo ho staccato tutto tranne il 60
[16:58] <h_boyz> Solo che in dhcp non mi funziona niente ho un router fastweb che assegna indirizzi strani.
[16:58] <h_boyz> Solo con IP e gateway manualmente riesco a navigare
[16:59] <fa> non me lo ricordo
[16:59] <krabador> h_boyz, nano /etc/network/interfaces
[16:59] <krabador> e li setti tutto , poi ctrl x, salvi
[16:59] <h_boyz> Conosco i dati da inserire ma non il comando
[16:59] <h_boyz> Ok
[17:00] <h_boyz> Ci sono dice auto lo
[17:00] <h_boyz> I face lo inetti loopback
[17:01] <h_boyz> Come è la sintassi da usare
[17:02] <krabador> h_boyz, fa una cosa
[17:02] <krabador> ctrl x e non salvi
[17:02] <krabador> ifconfig eth0 indirizzo netmask quellachesia
[17:03] <krabador> h_boyz, ifconfig eth0
[17:03] <krabador> controlli se ha preso i parametri
[17:07] <fa> li posso recuperare i dati?
[17:07] <krabador> fa, dipende da cosa è successo
[17:08] <krabador> fa, e fidati, che il sistema non fa niente da solo
[17:08] <krabador> fa, se hai il supporto di installazione , caricalo in live, sessione di prova, e vedi come vede le unui
[17:08] <krabador> unità
[17:08] <krabador> da li puoi entrare qui
[17:08] <krabador> segnalare
[17:08] <krabador> ma se all'unità è avvenuta un'azione diretta
[17:09] <krabador> recuperare i dati diventa lavoro per centro specializzato
[17:09] <fa> quindi rimetto la pendrive e ricomincio?
[17:09] <krabador> fa, ricominciare cosa?^
[17:10] <krabador> hai letto quello che ho scritto, o ti hanno bendato?
[17:10] <fa> si si ho capito
[17:15] <fa> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13196798/
[17:16] <fa> questo in live
[17:17] <krabador> fa, è non partizionato comunque
[17:19] <fa> niente .centro specializzato per recupero
[17:24] <ioioio> salve, vorrei sapere come si formatta una periferica USB. grazie in anticipo
[17:25] <krabador> ioioio, sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdxx , dove xx sono lettera e numero di unità, che vedi dopo aver dato sudo fdisk -l
[17:26] <ioioio> ok grazie tante :D
[17:30] <ioioio> krabador, mi esce questa scritta "mkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/sdb: Device or resource busy"
[17:31] <krabador> ioioio, devi smontare
[17:31] <krabador> sudo umount /dev/sdxx , sempre la stessa storia
[17:33] <krabador> corretta lettera e numero di unità
[17:36] <ioioio> okok ci sono riuscito, grazie ancora... è per i tipi come te che mi piace il mondo di linux. Grazie ancora ;)
[17:39] <krabador> :D
[17:39] <krabador> ciao
[18:39] <h_boyz> Krabador: sono in recovery con rete attiva e nel terminale root
[18:40] <fa> giornataccia,non riesco a vedere video su firefox.non si apre nemmeno softwarecenter
[18:41] <h_boyz> cristian_c: tu puoi?....Ho visto che krabador è assente
[18:42] <fa> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13198272/
[18:49] <fa> risolto
[18:52] <fa> troppo presto si è bloccato
[19:13] <Zimir10> ho appena installato office 2007 su ubuntu 15.04. Microsoft office enterprise 2007 da attivare (?) cosa significa e come risolvo la questione?
[19:16] <ugone> looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooollllllllllll
[19:19] <Carlin0> Zimir10, office M$ è roba win NON linux
[19:19] <akis24> Zimir10: pagando la licenza a zio bill oppure chiedi su ##windows
[19:23] <Zimir10> zio bill non mi è mai garbato
[19:26] <akis24> Zimir10: non è domanda pertinente al canale di supporto a ubuntu ti è stato gia' detto
[19:51] <esulu> ciao a tutti
[20:14] <Blue_Dragon> Buonasera a tutti
[20:14] <Blue_Dragon> terzo giorno di Ubuntu :)
[20:16] <Blue_Dragon> c'è nessuno? :)
[20:17] <akis24> !chiedi | Blue_Dragon
[20:17] <ubot-it> Blue_Dragon: per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-)
[20:17] <Blue_Dragon> Buonasera Akis
[20:18] <akis24> sera Blue_Dragon
[20:18] <Blue_Dragon> ho installato ubuntu 15.10 su Asus 1001PX con 2 gb ram. Va tutto bene tranne che per gli speaker audio del netbook: non si sente nulla. Si sente solo dalle cuffie.
[20:20] <akis24> Blue_Dragon: hai provato a impostare le opzioni audio ?
[20:21] <Blue_Dragon> ho fatto il test audio
[20:22] <Blue_Dragon> (sono un assoluto neofita di ubuntu)
[20:23] <akis24> Blue_Dragon: sull'icona audio " impostazioni audio " oppure da menu delle impostazioni
[20:24] <Blue_Dragon> impostazioni di sistema/audio
[20:25] <Blue_Dragon> volume ok
[20:25] <akis24> Blue_Dragon: sulla finestra " uscite " che cosa hai ?
[20:27] <Blue_Dragon> Altoparlanti-Audio interno
[20:27] <cristian_c> Blue_Dragon: hai un netbook?
[20:29] <Blue_Dragon> ciao cristian
[20:29] <Blue_Dragon> si, asus 1001ox
[20:29] <Blue_Dragon> *px
[20:31] <akis24> Blue_Dragon: apri il terminale e digita alsamixer e poi posta uno screen
[20:32] <akis24> !image | Blue_Dragon
[20:32] <ubot-it> Blue_Dragon: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[20:34] <Blue_Dragon> scusa l'ignoranza
[20:35] <Blue_Dragon> ho alsamixer davanti
[20:35] <Blue_Dragon> come faccio a postarlo?
[20:35] <Carlin0> Blue_Dragon, premi il tasto stamp
[20:35] <akis24> Blue_Dragon: da accessori → istantanea o cattura schermata o simile insomma
[20:37] <Blue_Dragon> fatto
[20:37] <Blue_Dragon> per postarla qui?
[20:37] <Carlin0> !image
[20:37] <ubot-it> Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[20:37] <Carlin0> usa imgur Blue_Dragon
[20:37] <Blue_Dragon> okk
[20:39] <Blue_Dragon> uploadata con imgur
[20:39] <Blue_Dragon> per portarla qui?
[20:39] <Carlin0> passa il link ora
[20:41] <Blue_Dragon> http://imgur.com/WLqnhEr
[20:41] <Blue_Dragon> (brutta cosa l'ignoranza.... :()
[20:42] <Carlin0> nessuno nasce 'imparato'
[20:43] <Carlin0> Blue_Dragon, con le frecce spostati sulla colonna headphone premi M per togliere il mute e poi con le frecce alza il volume
[20:44] <Blue_Dragon> si senteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :)
[20:44] <Blue_Dragon> genio!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:46] <Carlin0> Blue_Dragon, ESC per uscire
[20:46] <Blue_Dragon> grandissimo, grazie mille
[20:46] <Blue_Dragon> un'ultima cosa poi vi lascio
[20:47] <Blue_Dragon> esistono delle applicazioni tipo utilities per ubuntu? tipo defrag, pulizia ecc ecc
[20:47] <Blue_Dragon> antivirus
[20:47] <akis24> non serve defrag e nemmeno antivirus
[20:48] <Carlin0> Blue_Dragon, antivirus non necessita , al massimo lo puoi usare per scanzionare files da passare a win
[20:48] <Carlin0> Blue_Dragon, per la pulizia installa bleachbit
[20:48] <Carlin0> !info bleachbit
[20:48] <ubot-it> bleachbit (source: bleachbit): delete unnecessary files from the system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8-1 (wily), package size 271 kB, installed size 2074 kB
[20:48] <Carlin0> !info clam
[20:48] <ubot-it> Package clam does not exist in wily
[20:49] <Carlin0> !info clamtk
[20:49] <ubot-it> clamtk (source: clamtk): graphical front-end for ClamAV. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.19-1 (wily), package size 442 kB, installed size 1766 kB
[20:49] <Blue_Dragon> grazie mille ancora
[20:49] <Carlin0> !info clamav
[20:49] <ubot-it> clamav (source: clamav): anti-virus utility for Unix - command-line interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.98.7+dfsg-0ubuntu4 (wily), package size 96 kB, installed size 718 kB
[20:50] <Blue_Dragon> Carlin0, ti disturberò di nuovo presto ;)
[20:51] <Carlin0> Blue_Dragon, quando hai bisogno torna ... noi siamo qui
[20:53] <derp> ciao a tutti
[20:53] <Blue_Dragon> avviato bleachbit
[20:54] <Blue_Dragon> devo selezionare tutto?
[20:54] <Carlin0> Blue_Dragon, la cosa che + occupa spazio è la cache del browser
[20:54] <Blue_Dragon> (perchè quando scrivo qui mi sottolinea tutto in rosso come fossero errori?)
[20:54] <Carlin0> pulisci quella
[20:55] <derp> ho un problema ad avviare la live usb, qualcuno mi può aiutare?
[20:55] <Blue_Dragon> e la cache di sistema?
[20:55] <Blue_Dragon> (lascio spazio agli altri)
[20:55] <akis24> derp: creata come la usb ?
[20:56] <derp> con un programma su windows
[20:56] <akis24> derp: quale ?
[20:56] <derp> universal-usb installer
[20:56] <derp> stavo cercando il nome
[20:57] <akis24> derp: impostato il bios per avviare la usb come prima periferica di boot ?
[20:57] <derp> sisi il problema non è quello
[20:58] <derp> ho una schermata nera e scritte varie e poi si blocca dopo un po...
[20:58] <akis24> derp: verifica integrita' del file iso scaricato
[20:58] <akis24> |md5sum | derp
[20:58] <akis24> !md5sum | derp
[20:58] <ubot-it> derp: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Md5Sum. Per una lista completa, si veda: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[20:59] <derp> come lo faccio?
[20:59] <akis24> derp: leggendo al link postato
[20:59] <derp> cmq ho uno screen se vuoi
[21:00] <derp> ok ora vedo
[21:00] <akis24> derp: postalo
[21:00] <akis24> !image | derp
[21:00] <ubot-it> derp: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[21:01] <derp> https://mega.nz/#!jcYTXbZT!lxckQBTYRVrN_pibmuSMQt8vWJlN79OWK-9Xx-w-Xns
[21:01] <derp> va bene su mega?
[21:01] <akis24> derp: no mettilo su https://imgur.com/ e copia link qui
[21:02] <derp> ok... mi devo registare
[21:03] <akis24> non serve derp
[21:03] <derp> ok
[21:03] <derp> https://imgur.com/8CEjP29
[21:04] <akis24> derp: che pc e che sistema operativo hai ?
[21:04] <derp> comunque il link per md5 mi dice "Questa pagina non esiste ancora. È possibile creare una nuova pagina vuota, oppure usare uno dei modelli di pagina"
[21:05] <derp> windows 10 assemblato
[21:05] <derp> vuoi specifiche?
[21:05] <akis24> derp: provata adesso funziona perfettamente la pagina
[21:05] <akis24> !uefi | derp
[21:05] <ubot-it> derp: UEFI è una specifica che definisce una interfaccia software tra un sistema operativo e le piattaforme firmware, è intesa come un sostituto del BIOS. Per informazioni su come impostare e installare Ubuntu su macchine UEFI vedi http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/UEFI | vedi anche https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[21:06] <akis24> derp: segui la procedura indicata per uefi
[21:10] <derp> la procedura va bene anche se voglio lasciare solo ubuntu sul pc?
[21:12] <cristian_c> derp: md5?
[21:13] <derp> la pagina non funziona ancora
[21:14] <cristian_c> !md5
[21:14] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Md5Sum | md5: http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/MD5SUMS
[21:14] <derp> ok la pagina c'è
[21:20] <derp> fatto ed è lo stesso
[21:20] <derp> comunque il problema si presenta anche su altre distribuzioni
[21:21] <derp> tutte si bloccano al boot
[21:22] <Carlin0> derp, per le altre distribuzioni rivolgiti alle relative comunity
[21:23] <derp> comunque provo a seguire la guida sull'installazione uefi e in caso di problemi torno
[21:23] <derp> grazie per l'aiuto
[21:28] <derp> ciao, sono di nuovo io
[21:30] <derp> la guida per l'uefi dice di avviare la live con "Try Ubuntu without installing" ma è proprio quello il problema
[21:30] <derp> non riesco ad avviarla
[21:30] <Carlin0> derp, che pc hai ? cpu e ram ...
[21:31] <cristian_c> derp: come l'hai fatto il supporto?
[21:31] <derp> i7 4790k 16gb ram
[21:31] <derp> live usb
[21:31] <cristian_c> sì sì, ma come?
[21:32] <derp> universal usb installer
[21:32] <cristian_c> tra l'altro quella cpu non regge benissimo le temperature, visto che non è saldata, ma c'è la pasta
[21:32] <derp> .-.
[21:33] <derp> non è il mio attuale problema
[21:33] <derp> XD
[21:33] <cristian_c> derp: esattamente, che succede?
[21:33] <derp> riposto la schermata?
[21:33] <cristian_c> hai impostato il boot da usb?
[21:33] <cristian_c> derp: sì, per piacere
[21:33] <derp> https://imgur.com/8CEjP29
[21:35] <cristian_c> ok
[21:35] <cristian_c> visto, un attimo
[21:35] <derp> ok
[21:36] <cristian_c> derp: oltre a cpu e ram
[21:37] <cristian_c> che scheda grafica monta il pc?
[21:37] <derp> scheda video gtx 770
[21:37] <cristian_c> ok, quindi la nvidia
[21:37] <derp> si
[21:37] <cristian_c> con i nouveau
[21:37] <derp> ?
[21:37] <cristian_c> derp: 15.10 o 15.04?
[21:38] <derp> 15.10
[21:38] <cristian_c> This line of source code was introduced in kernel 3.18 in arch/x86/platform/efi/efi-bgrt.c
[21:38] <cristian_c> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2264380
[21:39] <Anze> Ciao, ho un problema su connessione: chi può darmi una mano, per cortesia?
[21:39] <Mr_Pan> !chiedere | Anze
[21:39] <ubot-it> Anze: Non chiedere di chiedere, chiedi e basta!
[21:40] <Anze> mi pare corretto... mi si è bloccato computer durante aggiornamento e da allora non funziona più connessione "applicazione delle impostazioni di rete fallita"
[21:40] <Anze> non ne vengo a capo...
[21:41] <cristian_c> Re: 15.04 Install problems
[21:41] <cristian_c> Yay, Thanks Dino!!! I'm writing from a live session!! It was a setting in the bios where it uses legacy/uefi hybrid, when I disabled it to boot from uefi, bingo!!! thanks dude, Kudos!
[21:41] <derp> mmm
[21:41] <cristian_c> derp: com'è la situazione del bios?
[21:41] <derp> devo settare uefi only?
[21:42] <cristian_c> derp: cos'hai impostato?
[21:42] <derp> mi pare che era uefi/legacy
[21:42] <cristian_c> Anze: che connessione utilizzi?
[21:43] <Anze> wifi
[21:43] <cristian_c> derp: controlla bene
[21:43] <cristian_c> Anze: e via cavo va?
[21:43] <Anze> ma ho provato anche a attaccare ethernet, ma nulla
[21:43] <cristian_c> ok
[21:43] <Anze> vedeva connessione, ma non lavorava e non mi faceva nemmeno vedere impostazioni
[21:43] <cristian_c> Anze: riesci ad entrare in modalità di ripristino?
[21:43] <derp> sono sul pc in questione, provo a fare la modifica e provo ad avviare la live... torno se ho ancora problemi, grazie ancora per l'aiuto
[21:44] <Anze> se mi dai dritta su come fare ci provo
[21:44] <cristian_c> Anze: fai una cosa
[21:45] <Anze> si...
[21:45] <cristian_c> Anze: digita: cat /etc/apt/sources.list && ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[21:45] <cristian_c> Anze: incolla il risultato su pastebin
[21:45] <cristian_c> !paste | Anze
[21:45] <ubot-it> Anze: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[21:49] <derp> ciao di nuovo
[21:49] <derp> il problema si ripresenta
[21:51] <cristian_c> derp: puoi fornire le informazioni richieste?
[21:52] <derp> ?
[21:52] <cristian_c> derp: cos'hai impostato?
[21:52] <cristian_c> scritto prima
[21:52] <derp> ho settato uefi only
[21:53] <derp> messo la live us e provato
[21:53] <derp> stessa schermata
[21:53] <derp> *usb
[21:56] <cristian_c> derp: allora
[21:56] <derp> si?
[21:56] <cristian_c> derp: esattamente, cos'appare , in sequenza, dopo il riavvio?
[21:57] <cristian_c> !dettagli
[21:57] <ubot-it> Per favore dacci dettagli completi. Per esempio "Ho un problema con..., sto usando Ubuntu versione... con interfaccia.... Quando provo a fare..., ottengo questo output: ..., ma mi sarei aspettato che facesse..."
[21:57] <flop> ciao a tutti
[21:57] <derp> faccio l'avviso del'usb e appare la selezione
[21:58] <derp> poi seleziono la prova senza installazione
[21:58] <cristian_c> derp: selezione dell'usb?
[21:58] <cristian_c> derp: ok, chiaro
[21:58] <cristian_c> derp: allora, fai una cosa
[21:58] <derp> e poi appare la schermata postata
[21:59] <cristian_c> derp: quando appare la schermata di scelta
[21:59] <cristian_c> 'prova', 'installa', ecc...
[21:59] <cristian_c> derp: invece di premere invio, premi 'e'
[21:59] <cristian_c> derp: e posta una schermata
[22:00] <Guest27970> istallai ubuntu diversi anni fa sul mio computer, ma non mi ricordo più la password che chiede all'avvio. c'è un modo per toglierla dal bios? ho un asus di quelli piccolissimi
[22:00] <Guest27970> o anche istallare una nuova versione e cancellare quella vecchia
[22:01] <derp> ok, siccome sono sul computer in questione accendo il portatile e loggo su questa chat su quello
[22:01] <Carlin0> Guest27970, installa una nuove versione
[22:01] <cristian_c> derp: ok
[22:01] <Carlin0> !installazione
[22:01] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[22:03] <robertogio> hi, ho messo ubuntu studio 15.10, è la prima volta che mi avventuro in linux e subito sono arrivati i problemi a raffica
[22:04] <Guest27970> ok, la sto scaricando dal ubuntu italia, provo a installarla
[22:04] <robertogio> libero office mi ha piantato, si apre solo una pagina completamente trasparente
[22:05] <robertogio> una applicazione non si ricarica e gira a vuoto e questo mi impedisce di sostituire il programma di scrittura
[22:05] <cristian_c> Guest27970: fa
[22:05] <Carlin0> robertogio, su che pc hai installato ?
[22:05] <cristian_c> Guest27970: fai una prova in live, per verificare la presenza di eventuali problemi
[22:05] <robertogio> un HP compac 15
[22:05] <Carlin0> robertogio, cpu ram e scheda video
[22:06] <cristian_c> Guest27970: di quale pc parliamo?
[22:06] <derp> ok sono sul portatile e sto facendo la procedura sull'altro pc
[22:06] <robertogio> un dual core da un giga, 64 di architettura e 4 di ram
[22:07] <Anze> cristian_c: non ho capito dove devo copiare il risultato...
[22:07] <Carlin0> dual core ce ne so tanti eh
[22:08] <cristian_c> Anze: su pastebin
[22:08] <cristian_c> !paste | Anze
[22:08] <ubot-it> Anze: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[22:08] <robertogio> un AMD sono sicuro, cmq uno dei più scadenti a vedere dalla velocità
[22:09] <Anze> cristian_c: dove lo trovo?
[22:09] <derp> ecco la schermata: http://imgur.com/rkk3F8C
[22:10] <cristian_c> Anze: il bot non ti suggerisce niente?
[22:11] <Anze> cristian_c: si, ma il fatto è che scrivo da un computer connesso, mentre il risultato ce l'ho su quello che non si connette, quindi non so come fare...
[22:11] <Carlin0> Anze, crea un file si testo ... su dai un po di fantasia
[22:11] <robertogio> APU AMD Dual-Core E1-6010 con scheda grafica Radeon R2 (1,35 GHz, 1 MB di cache)
[22:13] <cristian_c> derp: allora
[22:13] <cristian_c> derp: cancella quiet splash
[22:13] <cristian_c> dalla schermata
[22:14] <derp> ok
[22:14] <cristian_c> derp: e al suo posto, scrivi: nomodeset
[22:14] <cristian_c> derp: e riposta la schermata
[22:14] <derp> ok
[22:14] <cristian_c> robertogio: ooohh, l'e1, hai ragione
[22:15] <cristian_c> cpu veramente scarsa
[22:15] <Guest27970> cristian_c è una asus Eee pc901
[22:15] <cristian_c> Guest27970: lascia perdere ubuntu
[22:16] <cristian_c> Guest27970: scarica direttamente lubuntu
[22:16] <derp> http://imgur.com/bmECxDT
[22:17] <Guest27970> ok, ma il vecchio ubuntu come lo elimino dal pc? non sono pratico!
[22:17] <Carlin0> Guest27970, installi sulla stessa partizione
[22:18] <Guest27970> ok, provo
[22:18] <Anze> Calin0: hai ragione, ma non funziona wifi, no bluetooth, e nemmeno mi vede chiavette usb (provate 2)... non so come fare...
[22:19] <cristian_c> derp: è ok
[22:19] <cristian_c> derp: che opzioni hai sul fondo?
[22:20] <Carlin0> Anze, è un pc nuovo ?
[22:20] <cristian_c> Anze: non funzionano neanche quelle
[22:20] <cristian_c> ?
[22:20] <derp> ctrl-x o f10 per il boot ctrl-c o f2 per linea di comando ESC per uscire
[22:20] <Anze> cristian_c: no, vecchio eeepc-1005ha
[22:21] <cristian_c> derp: premi f10
[22:21] <derp> fa qualcosa....
[22:21] <cristian_c> !lubuntu | Guest27970
[22:21] <ubot-it> Guest27970: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu | md5: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/15.04/release/MD5SUMS
[22:23] <derp> finisce con le righe della prima schermata
[22:23] <cristian_c> Anze: che altri problemi hai su quel pc=
[22:23] <cristian_c> ?
[22:23] <cristian_c> che noi non sappiamo
[22:23] <derp> schermata?
[22:23] <Carlin0> Anze, vecchio quanto ? che non vadano le usb è proprio un brutto segno
[22:23] <cristian_c> !image | derp
[22:23] <ubot-it> derp: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[22:24] <Anze> cristian_c: piacerebbe saperlo anche a me, da quando non ha completato quell'aggiornamento non vanno connessioni e a random non va il mouse...
[22:24] <robertogi> si è spento cromium, lo fa anche con altri programmi, spenge e accende a suo piacimento
[22:25] <cristian_c> Anze: se il tuo pc ti sta salutando, non c'è molto che possiamo fafe
[22:25] <cristian_c> fare
[22:25] <cristian_c> Anze: prova ad avviare una live e vedi se a parte
[22:25] <robertogi> rientrando non mi ha accattato il nik, va bè gli ho tolto una lettera, é uguale
[22:25] <cristian_c> Anze: se non parte neanche quella, rivolgiti a personale specializzato
[22:25] <derp> eccola: http://imgur.com/ehR3UBR
[22:26] <Anze> cristian_c: ok, grazie ugualmente
[22:26] <Carlin0> robertogi, non riesco a trovare i requisiti minimi per ubuntu studio ma ho paura che quella cpu sia insufficiente
[22:27] <cristian_c> Anze: non ce l'hai la live, ora?
[22:27] <robertogi> partire è partito subito, poi grane a non finire, firefox che non apriva niente, né video né voce, poi ho messo cromium e un miglioramento si è visto
[22:28] <robertogi> anche skype funziona, ma shockwave è assente
[22:28] <Anze> cristian_c: cos'è?
[22:28] <derp> cristian_c riposto la schermata?
[22:29] <cristian_c> allora
[22:29] <robertogi> un coder video, molti video non si aprono senza quello
[22:29] <cristian_c> robertogio: ubuntustudio non è altro che una ubuntu con xfce
[22:29] <cristian_c> robertogi: e programmi multimediali preinstallati
[22:29] <robertogi> l'ho scelto proprio per quello
[22:30] <cristian_c> e il kernel low-latency non sarebbe nemmeno necessario , con hardware decente
[22:30] <robertogi> avevo inserito il 14 unicorno ma non si apriva proprio niente
[22:30] <cristian_c> senza grandi sforzi
[22:31] <cristian_c> derp: l'ho vista
[22:31] <derp> ok
[22:31] <cristian_c> derp: hai provato solo con sta chiavetta asus?
[22:31] <derp> no
[22:32] <derp> ho provato con un cd ma è uguale
[22:32] <cristian_c> Anze: il supporto d'installazione
[22:32] <derp> *dvd
[22:32] <cristian_c> Anze: quello con cui hai installato il sistema
[22:32] <Anze> cristian_c: ho scaricato la nuova versione... a mali estremi...
[22:32] <Anze> 15
[22:33] <cristian_c> Anze: prova ad avviare tramite quello, per assicurarti che il problema non è riferito all'attuale installazione
[22:33] <cristian_c> Anze: fai pure
[22:33] <derp> ma la chiavetta non è asus .-.
[22:33] <cristian_c> derp: ah, scusa, ma avevo letto asus, nella schermafa
[22:33] <robertogi> logitec è sempre inceppata, ora ha aggiunto un altro programma da sola : plugin gnas e poi Erreur de connexion. (Closing Link: 107.161.19.53 (Connection timed out))
[22:34] <cristian_c> derp: un attimo ancora
[22:34] <derp> np
[22:36] <cristian_c> http://askubuntu.com/questions/228927/boot-failure-failed-command-identify-packet-device
[22:37] <cristian_c> derp: ma hai un drive ottico?
[22:37] <derp> si
[22:38] <cristian_c> derp: e hai provato già il dvd?
[22:38] <derp> ti ho pure detto che ho tentato con il dvd
[22:38] <derp> ecco...
[22:38] <cristian_c> stesso errore?
[22:38] <derp> si
[22:41] <cristian_c> derp: ok, ho trovato cose
[22:41] <cristian_c> robertogi:
[22:41] <derp> k
[22:42] <cristian_c> robertogi: hai il pc posseduto?
[22:42] <cristian_c> derp: allora, il punto è questo:
[22:42] <cristian_c> dovresti controllare nel bios uefi
[22:43] <cristian_c> derp: la presenza di un chip asmedia
[22:43] <cristian_c> roba che ha a che fare con sata
[22:43] <robertogi> ok, ma per entrare nel bios mi si spenge tutto
[22:43] <derp> mmmm
[22:43] <derp> provo
[22:44] <cristian_c> derp: quanti dischi ci sono nel pc?
[22:44] <cristian_c> derp: che il problema potrebbe pure essere il masterizzatore
[22:44] <derp> 3, 1ssd e 2 "normali"
[22:44] <derp> eh?
[22:44] <cristian_c> derp: e se adesso non ti serve, disattivalo dal bios
[22:44] <derp> provo
[22:44] <cristian_c> derp: allora a turno
[22:45] <cristian_c> derp: prova a disattivare
[22:45] <cristian_c> una volta il masterizzatore
[22:45] <cristian_c> una volta il primo disco
[22:45] <cristian_c> una volta il secondo disco
[22:45] <cristian_c> ecc...
[22:45] <cristian_c> fino a che non ti parte l'avvio
[22:45] <Carlin0> derp, hai anche dischi esterni ?
[22:46] <derp> non collegati
[22:46] <cristian_c> robertogi: non parlavo con te del bios
[22:46] <derp> cmq avevo provato pure a staccarli fisicamente
[22:46] <derp> ma nada
[22:46] <derp> tranne il masterizzatore
[22:47] <cristian_c> derp: prova col masterizzatore
[22:47] <cristian_c> che visto che ora non lo usi...
[22:47] <derp> son l'ssd diceva qualcosa, con i normali semplicemente si bloccava
[22:48] <derp> il bios mi segnala solo 1 hd
[22:49] <cristian_c> derp: dovrebbe segnalarti tutto, invece
[22:49] <derp> un secondo
[22:51] <derp> con windows li vedo sul bios ne vedo solo 1
[22:51] <derp> screen?
[22:52] <cristian_c> derp: sì
[22:52] <cristian_c> derp: ma hai provato a staccare il masterizzatoreP
[22:52] <cristian_c> ?
[22:53] <derp> ancora no
[22:53] <derp> asp che arriva lo screen
[22:53] <derp> http://imgur.com/TjBs9v0
[22:54] <derp> lo stacco fisicamente?
[22:54] <cristian_c> derp: sì
[22:54] <derp> ok
[22:54] <cristian_c> derp: scheda madre asus rog?
[22:55] <derp> si
[22:55] <derp> avevo soldi da buttare XD
[22:56] <derp> staccato
[22:56] <derp> provo ad avviare o devo rimodificare qualcosa?
[22:56] <cristian_c> asus già non è il massimo come mobo, in generale
[22:57] <cristian_c> poi dipende dal modello
[22:57] <cristian_c> derp: riavvia
[22:57] <derp> sono sul bios, avvio la live?
[22:58] <derp> miracolo
[22:58] <derp> XD
[22:59] <derp> devo buttare il masterizzatore?
[22:59] <Guest27970> ho caricato lubunto sulla sd, adesso come procedo?
[23:00] <derp> ok sono sul desktop live... grazie 1000 per l'aiuto e per la pazienza
[23:01] <cristian_c> derp: non credo sia un problema del masterizzatore in se
[23:01] <cristian_c> derp: andrebbe provato su un altro pc, per vedere se il problema è lui
[23:01] <cristian_c> derp: di niente
[23:01] <derp> sul portatile andava tranquillamente
[23:01] <cristian_c> derp: i bocca al lupo e buona continuazione
[23:02] <cristian_c> derp: masterizzatore sul portatile?
[23:02] <derp> grazie ancora
[23:02] <derp> ciao
[23:02] <cristian_c> O.o
[23:02] <derp> ?
[23:02] <derp> no
[23:02] <cristian_c> 'sul portatile andava tranquillamente'
[23:02] <derp> il computer portatile sul quale scrivo
[23:03] <cristian_c> se intendi ubuntu, ogni hardware è diverso
[23:03] <cristian_c> possono sorgere problemi diversi, a seconda della confogurazione hardwaee in uso
[23:03] <cristian_c> hardwaee
[23:03] <cristian_c> Guest27970: allora
[23:04] <cristian_c> Guest27970: non sulla sd
[23:04] <derp> cmq grazie e buona serata
[23:04] <cristian_c> Guest27970: o cd
[23:04] <robertogi> ok
[23:04] <cristian_c> Guest27970: oppure usb, se il bios supporta il boot da usb
[23:05] <cristian_c> e sui pc con meno di 10 anni dovrebbe essere garantita questa possibilità
[23:06] <Guest27970> ok
[23:06] <Guest27970> copio su una pennina e mi rifaccio vivo!!
[23:06] <cristian_c> robertogi: attualmente, il pc in che condizioni è?
[23:07] <cristian_c> Guest27970: 3hh, spetta
[23:07] <robertogi> mi potresti dare una dritta per chiudere il logitèque dal programma incantato?
[23:07] <cristian_c> !usbwin | Guest27970
[23:07] <ubot-it> Guest27970: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[23:07] <cristian_c> robertogi: cosa intendi per 'logiteque'?
[23:07] <robertogi> il pc è nuovo, avrà al massimo 3 mesi
[23:08] <Guest27970> pronti
[23:08] <robertogi> non so come si chiama in italiano, non conosco linux
[23:08] <robertogi> sono a strasburgo e il programma è francese per motivi di tastiera
[23:08] <Guest27970> sono sul bios
[23:10] <robertogi> cmq lingua a parte dovrebbe mantenere la stessa posizione, si accende dal penultimo tasto
[23:10] <robertogi> in pratica carica programmi vari
[23:10] <cristian_c> Guest27970: ma quanti os hai nel pc?
[23:11] <cristian_c> robertogi: hai detto di aver installato ubuntu studio
[23:11] <robertogi> si, in lingua francese
[23:11] <Guest27970> ho un ubuntu istallato anni fa (tipo 7) e quello caricato sulla usb
[23:12] <cristian_c> robertogi: cerchiamo di capirci, logiteque è il nome di un'applicaziome?
[23:12] <cristian_c> Guest27970: e da dove stai scrivendo?
[23:12] <robertogi> si, l'ultima nella finestra a discesa, co quella si caricano i programmi
[23:13] <Guest27970> da un'altro pc toshiba che ho comprato recentemente
[23:13] <Guest27970> quello lo usavo come tablet fai conto... 7 anni fa
[23:13] <cristian_c> robertogi: apri il task manager / monitor di sistema
[23:13] <robertogi> già fatto
[23:14] <cristian_c> robertogi: rintracci il programma incriminato e lo uccidi da lì
[23:14] <robertogi> non ha nome
[23:14] <robertogi> lo chiama installazione di pacchetti
[23:15] <robertogi> per cui non so dove cercarlo
[23:15] <cristian_c> robertogi: ahhh
[23:15] <cristian_c> robertogi: beh, una foto però potresti farla
[23:15] <robertogi> come si invia poi?
[23:16] <robertogi> posso mandartela per FB con il cellulare
[23:17] <Carlin0> !image
[23:17] <ubot-it> Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[23:17] <cristian_c> robertogi: non ho fb
[23:17] <cristian_c> caricala su un servizio hosting d'immagini
[23:17] <cristian_c> come quelli linkati da carlino
[23:18] <cristian_c> Guest27970: il pc con ubuntu è un tablet?
[23:18] <cristian_c> Guest27970: se sul toshiba hai windows, trasferisci il file .iso sulla usb tramite universal usb installer
[23:19] <Guest27970> no. Allora, io ti scrivo da un toshiba. Il pc è un Asus Eee Pc
[23:19] <Guest27970> io ho messo il file scaricato di lubuntu su usb
[23:19] <Guest27970> e l'ho inserita nell'asus
[23:19] <Guest27970> adesso non ho la più pallida idea di che fare
[23:20] <Guest27970> * il pc da cui scrivo è un toshiba. Quello dove voglio fare questa operazione è un asus Eee pc
[23:21] <Carlin0> Guest27970, devi settare il boot usb dal bios
[23:22] <Carlin0> e poi segui la guida
[23:22] <Carlin0> !installazione
[23:22] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[23:22] <Guest27970> boot device priority?
[23:22] <Carlin0> si
[23:22] <Guest27970> quindi: a "1st boot device" inserisco "removable dev."
[23:22] <Guest27970> e poi riavvio?
[23:23] <Carlin0> poi salvi la scelta ed esci
[23:23] <Guest27970> ok, provo
[23:24] <cristian_c> Guest27970: che os ha il toshiba?
[23:24] <cristian_c> per capirsi
[23:24] <Guest27970> windows 8
[23:25] <cristian_c> Guest27970: e che programma hai usato per trasferire la .iso su usb?
[23:26] <Guest27970> l'ho spostato e basta
[23:26] <Guest27970> ...
[23:26] <Guest27970> mi parte l'ubuntu vecchio
[23:26] <cristian_c> Guest27970: male
[23:26] <cristian_c> molto male
[23:27] <cristian_c> Guest27970: utilizza universal usb installer
[23:27] <cristian_c> !usbwin | Guest27970
[23:27] <ubot-it> Guest27970: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[23:28] <cristian_c> Guest27970: se sposti il file .iso e basta, ottieni solo una memoria dati con un file dentro
[23:28] <robertogi> ok, sono inserite qui http://robertogiorgi.imgur.com/all/?third_party=1
[23:28] <Guest27970> ok
[23:28] <cristian_c> Guest27970: e non una usb avviabile
[23:28] <Guest27970> grazie
[23:28] <Guest27970> riparto
[23:28] <robertogi> la cartella è denominata schermo
[23:29] <Carlin0> robertogi, non si vede nulla
[23:29] <cristian_c> robertogi: non linkare gli album
[23:29] <cristian_c> linka direttamente le foto
[23:30] <robertogi> http://robertogiorgi.imgur.com/all/?third_party=1
[23:30] <cristian_c> non ci siamo
[23:30] <cristian_c> cosa non è chiaro di 'non linkare gli album'?
[23:31] <robertogi> http://imgur.com/LKN1KrJ
[23:31] <robertogi> mai entrato prima, ora si vede?
[23:32] <robertogi> http://imgur.com/FyEIA5f
[23:33] <cristian_c> allora
[23:33] <robertogi> http://imgur.com/Edbm0UU
[23:33] <cristian_c> questo è il software center
[23:33] <robertogi> http://imgur.com/sKfpvmH
[23:34] <cristian_c> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1967871
[23:34] <robertogi> il primo è bloccato da stamani e con lui si è bloccato pure libre office con tutto il lavoro che devo mandare via domani
[23:35] <robertogi> ora mi preme poter aprire i files e stamparli
[23:35] <Carlin0> evabbuò ma se col pc ci lavori comprane uno decente
[23:35] <cristian_c> eh, ma è nuovo il pc
[23:35] <cristian_c> robertogi: apri il link
[23:35] <robertogi> 3 mesi
[23:36] <Carlin0> nuovo non vuol dire che sia decente , sopratutto se ci devi lavorare
[23:37] <cristian_c> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206404
[23:37] <cristian_c> !info usc
[23:37] <ubot-it> Package usc does not exist in wily
[23:37] <cristian_c> un attimo
[23:39] <cristian_c> !info ubuntu-software-center
[23:39] <ubot-it> Package ubuntu-software-center does not exist in wily
[23:39] <robertogi> ho letto, unica nota utile questa
[23:39] <robertogi> Update:
[23:39] <robertogi> The issue somehow solved it self over the night. I have no idea what happened, but there is no process running in the software center now.
[23:39] <robertogi> in pratica niente
[23:40] <cristian_c> sì, sto guardando altro
[23:40] <cristian_c> per killarlo
[23:40] <Guest27970> ok, ho riprovato e non mi parte in automatico, mando l'immagine del contenuto usb così potete dirmi se è corretto
[23:40] <Carlin0> ps aux | grep software-center
[23:41] <Guest27970> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/RW6YtQxWRlmS4anA339u
[23:41] <cristian_c> robertogi: o anche: killall software-center
[23:42] <Carlin0> Guest27970, l'hai fatta con il programma consigliato ?
[23:42] <cristian_c> robertogi: o ancora: sudo killall software-center
[23:42] <Guest27970> si
[23:42] <cristian_c> se è processo di root
[23:43] <Carlin0> con ps vedevi di chi era il processo :o)
[23:43] <cristian_c> Guest27970: allota
[23:43] <cristian_c> r
[23:45] <cristian_c> Guest27970: da dove hai impostato il boot?
[23:45] <robertogi> stavo leggendo, ma il comando Kill poi cosa fa, chiude il programma o lo elimina?
[23:45] <Guest27970> dal bios
[23:45] <Guest27970> sono andato a boot
[23:45] <cristian_c> Guest27970: il pc supporta il boot da usb?
[23:45] <cristian_c> robertogi: lo uccide, semplicemente
[23:46] <Guest27970> c'era l'opzione cd-rom,asus e unità removibile
[23:46] <Guest27970> quindi credo di si
[23:46] <Guest27970> ah ma aspetta! su universal installer dovevo mettere la spunta a "erases content"?
[23:47] <robertogi> scusa ma non sono pratico del gergo, lo uccide equivale a chiudere o a cancellare per sempre?
[23:47] <cristian_c> Guest27970: essì
[23:47] <cristian_c> robertogi: chiidere
[23:47] <cristian_c> non disinstallare
[23:47] <robertogi> ok, ora provo
[23:47] <cristian_c> *chiudere
[23:48] <cristian_c> si parla pur sempre di processi, istanze
[23:48] <Guest27970> ah ok, ho risolto
[23:48] <Guest27970> dovevo impostarlo da 2 parti
[23:49] <Guest27970> ora cosa più importante: per installarlo al posto dell'altro os vado a opzioni avanzate o a istallazione?
[23:50] <cristian_c> Guest27970: ti ho detto di avviare la modalità live
[23:50] <cristian_c> Guest27970: visto che avevi lamentato un problema
[23:51] <Guest27970> non so cosa sia la modalità live!! vi prego scusatemi!!
[23:51] <cristian_c> 'fai una prova in live, per verificare la presenza di eventuali problemi'
[23:51] <cristian_c> avevo scrittp
[23:51] <cristian_c> o
[23:52] <Guest27970> try without installin?
[23:52] <cristian_c> Guest27970: esatto
[23:52] <Guest27970> vado
[23:54] <Guest27970> mi è apparsa la schermata desktop con "trash" e "install"
[23:55] <cristian_c> Guest27970: prova il sistema e vedi se ci sono problemi
[23:55] <cristian_c> se non ci sono, installa pure
[23:56] <robertogi> non funziona, non é per caso che richiede il nome in francese e non in inglese?
[23:57] <Guest27970> ok, ma come faccio a istallarlo al posto dell'altro os? e come faccio a impostarlo in italiano?
[23:58] <cristian_c> !installazione | Guest27970
[23:58] <ubot-it> Guest27970: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[23:58] <cristian_c> Guest27970: installazione che fai partire facendo clic sull'icona 'installa'
[23:58] <cristian_c> doppio clic
[23:59] <cristian_c> Guest27970: beh, la lingua la selezioni subito dopo aver avviato l'installazioje
[23:59] <cristian_c> installazione
[23:59] <cristian_c> come da schermate
[23:59] <cristian_c> robertogi: beh, i nomi di processo sono universali
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[06:26] <DR1> H
[10:59] <successus> salud o/
[11:40] <mefista> 453 a session key is required for calling this method
[14:21] <amundsen> hola
[14:22] <mimecar> hola amundsen
[14:23] <amundsen> estoy usando ubtu15.10 en un portatil con Nvidia Optimus y al actualizar paquetes e instalarse la ultima version del kernel, en vez de acceder a lightdm me sale una pantalla negra y no puedo acceder a mi cuenta
[14:23] <amundsen> a alguien le ha pasado esto? he mirado en google pero no encuentro nada que me sirva
[14:24] <mimecar> ¿has arrancado con un kernel anterior?
[14:24] <amundsen> si
[14:24] <amundsen> si arranco con el kernel anterior todo va bien
[14:25] <mimecar> usa de momento un kernel anterior
[14:25] <amundsen> pero lo curioso es que si hago una instalacion nueva desde cero, los drivers de nvidia tambien van bien con el ultimo kernel
[14:25] <mimecar> puede ser algún bug con la última versión
[14:25] <amundsen> ahora mismo de hecho estoy con el ultimo kernel
[14:25] <amundsen> pero se que en la siguiente actualizacion volvera a pasar lo mismo
[14:26] <mimecar> aparte del kernel hay versiones diferentes del driver y del servidor gráfico
[14:29] <Lopulus> hola gente. Hay algun programa similar al project de windows?
[14:32] <amundsen> http://www.projectlibre.org/
[14:32] <amundsen> echa un vistazo ahi
[14:58] <mefista> tengo una pregunta
[14:59] <mefista> quiero tener mi ubntu en hd externo
[14:59] <mefista> instalarlo en hd externo nada en mi pc
[15:02] <mimecar> haz la instalación en el disco duro y después instala el MBR en el disco externo
[15:04] <mefista> uso una mac y utilizo con virtualbox mi linux
[15:04] <mefista> quiero instalar en un disco externo mi linux
[15:04] <mefista> sin tocar mi mac
[15:06] <mimecar> mientras instales el MBR en el disco externo no deberías tener problemas
[15:16] <mefista> tengo el iso de ubuntu
[15:18] <mefista> lo instalo desde usb
[15:18] <mefista> y seleciono el hd externo para empezar a instalar
[15:18] <mimecar> ¿tienes una copia de seguridad de la información importante del MAC?
[15:19] <mefista> deberia
[15:29] <mefista> haber estoy creando un usb
[15:29] <mefista> para empezar
[15:29] <mimecar> ¿ya tienes la copia de seguridad?
[15:29] <mefista> estoy rescatando todo
[15:30] <mimecar> los datos de la copia tienen que estar en un disco externo
[15:30] <mefista> hago un time machine
[15:32] <mefista> estoy haciendo timemachine con eso vale
[15:33] <mimecar> si usas un disco externo y luego puedes acceder a los datos aunque el mac no funcione, sí
[15:46] <mefista> vale
[15:47] <mefista> esper no cargarme el mac
[15:48] <mefista> cambiando hd k no hay spacio
[15:48] <mefista> vale ya esta haciendolo
[15:55] <mefista> esto va tardar un poco
[15:56] <mimecar> ¿no es más sencillo que uses una memoria flash?
[16:02] <mefista> instale el weechat en terminal mac
[16:02] <mefista> como entro en el canal
[16:02] <mimecar> el servidor es irc.freenode.net
[16:04] <mefista> d
[16:05] <mefista> con /join
[16:05] <mimecar> puedes escribir frases más largas, de momento no cobran en el IRC por palabras
[16:07] <mefista> error opcion irc.server.freenode.net
[16:07] <mimecar> el nombre del servidor es irc.freenode.net
[16:07] <mefista> ya pero con /join
[16:08] <mefista> lo pongo asi me da error
[16:08] <mimecar> /join es para canales, no para el servidor
[16:09] <mefista> entonces
[16:09] <mimecar> busca el comando que usa weechat para conectarse a un servidor
[16:10] <mimecar> cuando estés en la instalación de Ubuntu no tendrás Weechat, ¿lo sabes?
[16:11] <mefista> set
[16:13] <mefista> no me va con set
[16:13] <Lapos> saludos
[16:13] <Lapos> veo que hay la opción de configurar el ordenador para que apague la pantalla al cabo de X tiempo de inactividad
[16:14] <mefista> ya los e
[16:14] <Lapos> el caso es que solo permite (entre otras opciones) 10 o 30 minutos
[16:14] <Lapos> y a mi me gustaria poner 15 minutos xD
[16:14] <Lapos> pero no deja ponerlo manualmente
[16:14] <mefista> por eso quiero usarlo en mac
[16:14] <Lapos> alguien sabe como podria otros minutos que no sea 10 o 30 ?
[16:15] <Lapos> quiero poner algo intermedio
[16:15] <Lapos> porque 10 me parece poco y 30 demasiado xd
[16:15] <Lapos> mefista, tu sabes?
[16:15] <mimecar> Lapos, ¿qué versión de Ubuntu estás usando?
[16:15] <Lapos> 14.04 LTS
[16:15] <mimecar> un poco antigua
[16:15] <mimecar> ¿estás con Unity?
[16:15] <Lapos> es la ultima LTS
[16:16] <Lapos> si
[16:16] <Lapos> la siguiente LTS creo que será la 16.04
[16:16] <mimecar> si no te da más opciones para apagar la pantalla prueba con Ubuntu Tweak
[16:16] <Lapos> voy a ver que es eso de tweak
[16:16] <Lapos> porque no me suena
[16:16] <mimecar> una aplicación externa que permite configurar más Unity
[16:16] <Lapos> mimecar, pero es que las otras versiones son beta no?
[16:16] <mimecar> y otras opciones de Ubuntu
[16:16] <Lapos> osea las unicas estables de ubuntu son las LTS
[16:16] <Lapos> las otras son beta creo
[16:17] <mimecar> las otras versiones son estables
[16:17] <Lapos> son como la preparacion de la siguiente LTS
[16:17] <mimecar> no
[16:17] <mimecar> son versiones estables
[16:17] <Lapos> seguro?
[16:17] <mimecar> sí
[16:17] <Lapos> porque entonces no se que hago en la 14.04 jajaja
[16:18] <Lapos> y ha cambiado mucho la cosa o k?
[16:18] <mimecar> bastante
[16:18] <Lapos> en serio?
[16:18] <Lapos> pensaba que no
[16:18] <Lapos> pues vaya tela jaja
[16:18] <mimecar> en casi dos años esperas que no cambien las cosas?
[16:18] <Lapos> ya pero es que en la que estoy tambien se va actualizando eh?
[16:18] <Lapos> osea voy actualizando yo tambien
[16:18] <Lapos> aunque siga en la misma version
[16:18] <Lapos> los programas se actualizan
[16:19] <Lapos> tengo el firefox 42.0 por ejemplo
[16:19] <Lapos> lo acabo de mirar
[16:19] <Lapos> mimecar, dime una cosa en la que haya cambiado
[16:19] <Lapos> el unity sigue siendo el mismo no?
[16:20] <mimecar> Lapos, las versiones LTS no tienen actualizaciones nuevas de los programas si no instalas PPA externos
[16:20] <mimecar> Unity también ha cambiado
[16:20] <Lapos> pero si a mi de vez en cuando me sale que firefox se actualiza
[16:20] <Lapos> joder pues creo que voy a actualizar a la 15.10
[16:20] <mimecar> será la excepción o tendrás PPA
[16:20] <Lapos> yo tenia entendido que eran como pasos intermedios hacia la estable que eran las LTS
[16:21] <Lapos> pues no me suena haber hecho nada especial eh?
[16:21] <Lapos> mas alla de activar el universe multiverse y esas opciones
[16:21] <mimecar> no se tardan dos años en sacar una versión estable
[16:21] <Lapos> osea lo tengo todo en check en origenes del software
[16:21] <Lapos> perdona pero Debian por ejemplo tarda eso mas o menos
[16:21] <mimecar> LTS tienen su utilidad en algunos casos
[16:21] <mimecar> la filosofía de desarrollo de Debian es diferente
[16:22] <Lapos> ubuntu se basa en debian
[16:22] <Lapos> con eso te lo digo todo
[16:22] <mimecar> en parte de Debian
[16:22] <Lapos> como que en parte?
[16:22] <mimecar> pero tiene desarrollos propios
[16:22] <mimecar> como XMir o Unity
[16:22] <Lapos> se basa en debian totalmente y si debian no saca nueva version entonces no creo que cambie mucho ubuntu de una a otra
[16:22] <Lapos> porque depende de debian
[16:23] <Lapos> ah bueno si eso si
[16:23] <mimecar> tu mismo
[16:23] <Lapos> aunque Xmir no me suena
[16:23] <Lapos> pues nose quizas si actualice a la 15.10 si es estable...
[16:24] <Lapos> seguro que estas bien informado eh xD
[16:24] <Lapos> ?
[16:24] <mimecar> quedate en la 14.04
[16:24] <Lapos> bueno mas bien hare instalacion limpia que es lo que me gusta a mi
[16:24] <Lapos> si por que?
[16:24] <mimecar> me estás preguntando si estoy seguro que las versiones que salen son estables
[16:25] <mimecar> te digo que lo son y no te lo crees
[16:25] <mimecar> entonces quedate en una LTS
[16:25] <Lapos> bueno ok es que llevo mucho tiempo esperando a que salga la 16.04 LTS para poder actualizar
[16:25] <Lapos> por eso me extraña que ahora resulte que ya podia actualizar hace años xd
[16:28] <Lapos> la verdad es que la 14.04 LTS es super estable
[16:28] <Lapos> nunca me da problemas
[16:29] <Lapos> pero veo que la 15.10 tiene funcionalidades añadidas y dicen que han corregido bugs de unity :/
[16:31] <Lapos> veo que la 15.10 viene libreoofice 5.0.2 y en cambio yo tengo la version 4.2.8.2 :o
[16:31] <Lapos> a ver si va a ser verdad eso de que las aplicaciones no se actualizan :S que raro
[16:31] <mimecar> raro no
[16:32] <mimecar> la LTS sólo recibe actualizaciones de seguridad
[16:32] <Lapos> pues vaya tela, no se como he podido estar tan ciego xD
[16:32] <Lapos> y en las otras si se actualizan las aplicaciones?
[16:32] <mimecar> claro
[16:33] <Lapos> pues vayaaaaaaa
[16:33] <Lapos> entonces casi que es mejor estar en cualquier sitio menos en una LTS no? :S
[16:33] <mimecar> si tienes un servidor o un ordenador con pocos recursos es una opción interesante
[16:33] <Lapos> y cuando la LTS es precisamente la mas reciente que? mejor quedarse con la anterior de 6 meses atras o que?
[16:33] <Lapos> para que las aplicaicones se actualicen
[16:34] <mimecar> hasta que salgue la siguiente versión la LTS será la más actualizada
[16:34] <Lapos> pero no dices que la que no es LTS seguira actualizando las aplicaciones?
[16:35] <mimecar> seguirá durante su ciclo de vida
[16:35] <mimecar> que acaba a los 6 meses
[16:36] <Lapos> """Ubuntu 15.10 será apoyado por 9 meses de escritorio de Ubuntu, Ubuntu Server, Ubuntu Core, Kubuntu, Ubuntu Kylin, junto con todos los otros sabores."""
[16:36] <Lapos> (traducido en google translate) xd
[16:37] <mimecar> cuando pasen 9 meses o cambias de versión o no recibirás actualizaciones de nada
[16:37] <Lapos> okey
[16:37] <Lapos> pues creo que voy a aprovechar que ha salido hace nada la 15.10
[16:37] <Lapos> :D
[16:37] <Lapos> estare super actualizado
[16:37] <Lapos> venga fiesta jaja
[16:37] <Lapos> encima llego justo a tiempo
[16:37] <Lapos> cuando acaba de salir
[16:37] <mimecar> guarda una copia de seguridad de los datos antes
[16:37] <Lapos> no se no voy a actualizar, voy a hacer de nuevo todo
[16:38] <Lapos> salvaré cosas como maquinas virtuales, eso se puede salvar no?
[16:38] <mimecar> ¿no tienes ningún dato importante?
[16:38] <Lapos> y luego las volvere a poner
[16:38] <Lapos> en la nueva version, pero prefiero instalacion limpia
[16:38] <mimecar> copialas en un disco externo, después desconecta el disco
[16:38] <Lapos> si, tengo uno
[16:44] <Knight80> Hola, buenas tardes
[16:45] <mimecar> hola Knight80
[16:46] <Knight80> ¿Podrías ayudarme? Estoy intentando actualizar el "driver" OpenGL
[16:46] <Knight80> Por lo visto, tengo uno un poco antiguo
[16:46] <Knight80> Lo he descubierto por casualidad, ejecutando el juego "Super Tux Kart"
[16:47] <Knight80> Me dice que tengo un driver OpenGL antiguo y que necesito al menos el 3.1
[16:48] <Knight80> Y se puede jugar y todo, pero no es lo que me importa
[16:48] <mimecar> ¿qué versión de Ubuntu tienes?
[16:48] <Knight80> 15.10 wily
[16:51] <mimecar> deberías tener OpenGL actualizxado
[16:51] <mimecar> actualizado
[16:52] <Knight80> He hecho lo siguiente desde terminal:
[16:52] <Knight80> glxinfo | grep version
[16:53] <Knight80> Y me dice esto:
[16:53] <Knight80> http://pastebin.com/Qiw06EVb
[16:54] <mimecar> puede ser que estés usando el driver libre
[16:54] <Knight80> Es lo más probable
[16:55] <Knight80> La gráfica es integrada, una Intel GMA X4500
[17:00] <Lapos> yo tengo 14.04LTS y mira http://pastebin.com/Ryr2gBz2
[17:00] <Lapos> como es posible?
[17:02] <Lapos> he usado el mismo comando Knight80
[17:03] <Knight80> Me acaban de decir en #ubuntu que mi tarjeta gráfica solo soporta OpenGL 1.1
[17:03] <mimecar> no estáis con los mismos drivers
[17:04] <Lapos> mira mimecar por eso es que tengo en mente no actualizar hasta las LTS
[17:04] <Lapos> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[17:04] <Lapos> 1- Dan como primera opcion la LTS
[17:05] <Lapos> 2- Mira lo que dice en letras negras
[17:05] <mimecar> recomendado para la mayoría de los usuarios
[17:05] <mimecar> y?
[17:06] <Lapos> pues eso que yo esto lo interpreté como que las demas es para desarrolladores o algo nose xD
[17:06] <mimecar> si un usuario no se quiere complicar usa una LTS y tiene actualizaciones durante 5 años
[17:06] <Lapos> pues yo prefiero actualizar cada 6-9 meses
[17:07] <Lapos> y estar actualizado si sigue siendo estable
[17:07] <Lapos> asi queeeeeeeeeee voy alla xD
[17:07] <mimecar> no repitas tantas letras o saltará la protección del canal
[17:07] <Lapos> ok
[17:08] <Lapos> es que vengo del hispano y ya se sabe xd
[17:11] <Knight80> La cosa es que el juego funciona bien
[17:11] <Knight80> Y los gráficos son buenos
[17:11] <Knight80> Los procesa de manera bastante aceptable.
[17:56] <Lapos> que raro
[17:56] <Lapos> "Error al unir el archivo: Archivo demasiado grande"
[18:51] <Lapos> mimecar, no me deja copiar el .ova de virtualbox al disco duro externo
[18:51] <Lapos> porque cuando lo intento me sale el mensaje Error al unir el archivo: Archivo demasiado grande
[18:52] <Lapos> se ha quedado en 4,3GB lo copiado cuando en realidad ocupa 20GB
[18:52] <mimecar> ¿el disco es NTFS?
[18:52] <Lapos> nose, voy a ver con gparted
[18:52] <Lapos> lol
[18:53] <Lapos> haciendo boton derecho -> propiedades
[18:53] <Lapos> dice: tipo de sistema : msdos
[18:53] <Lapos> de sistema de archivos
[18:53] <Lapos> no sabia que msdos aun se usaba
[18:53] <mimecar> tendrás FAT32
[18:53] <mimecar> olvidate de poder copiar 20 GB en ese disco
[18:53] <Lapos> y pq dice msdos ahi? voy a ver en gparted..
[18:54] <Lapos> pues el disco tiene 1TB de capacidad...
[18:54] <Lapos> cuando abro el gparted me dice Error sincronizando/cerrando /dev/sdc: Error de E/S en la máquina remota
[18:54] <Lapos> si, en gparted dice fat32
[18:55] <mimecar> tendrás que pasarlo a NTFS
[18:55] <Lapos> y porque NTFS? no puedo formatearlo a ext3?
[18:55] <Lapos> o ext4 o algo asi mas prolinux
[18:55] <Lapos> xD
[18:56] <mimecar> ¿vas a usar el disco sólo con GNU/Linux?
[18:56] <Lapos> si
[18:56] <mimecar> entonces usa el sistema que quieras
[18:56] <Lapos> peeeero bueno por si a caso le doy a ntfs vengaaaaaaa...
[18:56] <Lapos> uops perdona por lo de las letras xd
[18:56] <Lapos> no me acordaba
[18:56] <mimecar> dependiendo de como pases de fat32 a ntfs
[18:57] <mimecar> puedes perder los datos
[18:57] <Lapos> si lo tengo limpio el disco duro externo este
[19:05] <Lapos> mimecar, hay una opcion a la hora de hacer una copia de la virtual que se basa en hacer pequeños archivos
[19:05] <Lapos> si mal no lo entiendo
[19:06] <mimecar> al final vas a convertir el sistema de archivos
[19:06] <Lapos> antes cuando la he hecho he visto la opción pero he elegido la opción de un solo fichero porque no veía el por qué
[19:06] <mimecar> tu decides si lo haces ahora sin datos o con el disco lleno
[19:06] <mimecar> FAT32 está limitado a archivos de 4 GB
[19:06] <Lapos> aah vale
[19:06] <Lapos> por eso se quedo en 4
[19:07] <Lapos> pues estaria guay que lo dijeran antes de copiarlo
[19:07] <Lapos> osea que hubiera una comprobación de tamaños y tipo de sistema de fichero y entonces te lo dijera, en vez de intentar copiarlo y luego parar dando error
[19:07] <Lapos> yo creo que esto se podria hacer
[19:07] <Lapos> no se uqe motivo habrá para que no se haga así
[19:08] <Lapos> alguno habrá
[19:08] <mimecar> es un error del sistema de archivos
[19:08] <mimecar> si usas archivos grandes no vas a usar FAT32
[19:08] <mimecar> cuando compras discos o memorias que superan un tamaño no van en aft32
[19:08] <mimecar> fat32
[19:09] <Lapos> okey
[19:09] <Lapos> hoy al final aprendo cosas xd
[19:25] <leonardo_> hola a todos, ¿alquien podría ayudarme con un problema al instalar ubuntu?
[19:25] <mimecar> cuando preguntes lo sabrás
[19:28] <Lapos> leonardo_, pero no nos dejes con la intriga xD
[19:28] <leonardo_> estoy teniendo un problema al arrancar ubuntu en un equipo, la úniva manera para poder hacerlo es poniendo apci=off en el grub, pero eso deshabilita el control de la batería ¿qué debo hacer para instalar normalmente el ubuntu?
[19:30] <leonardo_> ¿alguna idea de que puede estar causando eso?
[19:30] <Lapos> por mi parte no, pero yo soy noob -_-'
[19:30] <Lapos> que significa que pierdes el control de la bateria?
[19:31] <mimecar> ¿qué versión de Ubuntu estás instalando?
[19:32] <leonardo_> ya no hay indicador del estado de la batería
[19:35] <leonardo_> puedo instalar normalmente el xubuntu, sin embargo después de instalado apagar o el reiniciar no funcionan
[19:43] <leonardo_> estoy instalando ubuntu 14.04.3
[19:44] <mimecar> ¿te pasa lo mismo con una versión más reciente?
[19:45] <Lapos> ves mimecar la gente va a las LTS xD
[19:45] <mimecar> una LTS también tiene drivers más antiguos
[19:46] <Lapos> por cierto el disco duro externo este parece que con ntfs no me deja hacer nada
[19:46] <Lapos> lo he formateado otra vez a fat32 y vuelve a funcionar, pero con ntfs me daba error
[19:46] <Lapos> voy a probar con otro disco duro externo que hay por aqui a ver que file system tiene
[19:47] <Lapos> sino pues probaré la opción de hacer una copia de la virtual con varios ficherso
[19:49] <leonardo_> me pasa lo mismo con archlinux, sin embargo estoy descargando ubuntu 15.10
[19:51] <mimecar> Lapos, ¿qué error te da?
[19:52] <Lapos> Error sincronizando/cerrando /dev/sdc: Error de E/S en la máquina remota
[19:52] <Lapos> aunque esto tambien me lo decía cuando estaba volviendo a formatear a fat32
[19:52] <Lapos> pero al final lo hizo bien igual
[19:52] <mimecar> eso parece más fallo físico del disco que de ntfs
[19:52] <Lapos> ni idea
[19:55] <Lapos> el otro disco duro es fat32 -_-
[19:55] <Lapos> tambien
[19:55] <Lapos> voy a hacer lo de varios ficheros
[19:57] <Lapos> voy a cenar
[19:57] <Lapos> mientras se hace
[19:57] <Lapos> hasta luego
[19:59] <mimecar> ok
[20:38] <Lapos> pues creo que guardarlo con la extencion .ovf tampoco servirá..
[20:38] <mimecar> usa NTFS
[20:38] <mimecar> y comprueba los errores de ese disco
[20:38] <Lapos> porque me ha creado dos archivos, el .ovf que solo son unos pocos Kb y otro que es .vmdk pero este ocupa otra vez 20 y pico GB
[20:38] <Lapos> asi que pasara lo mismo
[20:41] <Lapos> es que nada mas abrir el gparted me salta mil veces el mensaje que te decía con el anterior disco duro
[20:41] <Lapos> con el actual no me da ningun aviso cuando abro el gparted
[20:41] <Lapos> el problema es que este disco duro si que tiene cosas dentro, series y etc de mi hermana
[20:42] <Lapos> tiene 120GB usados este disco duro
[20:42] <Lapos> voy a tener que copiar todo esto en mi PC entonces formatear a NTFS y luego volverlo a colocar todo junto a lo que yo quiero salvar
[20:44] <mimecar> arregla el disco que está vacío
[20:44] <Lapos> si supongo que si... porque ahora me doy cuento que no me cabe
[20:44] <Lapos> solo tengo 80gb libres en mi pc xd
[20:44] <mimecar> no era de 1 TB?
[20:44] <Lapos> en fin voy a ver si puedo arreglar el otro
[20:44] <Lapos> 1TB es el primer disco duro externo
[20:45] <Lapos> mi disco duro interno tiene 500GB
[20:45] <mimecar> comprueba los errores del disco y pasalo a NTFS
[20:45] <Lapos> pero entre que tengo mil distros virtualizados y noseque lo tengo muy lleno
[20:45] <Lapos> si a eso voy
[20:46] <Lapos> pero no se como se puede solucionar eso
[20:46] <Lapos> en google no veo mucha cosa
[20:46] <Lapos> ah aunque ahora que lo dices tal vez si pueda guardar todo lo del disco duro
[20:46] <Lapos> tan solo tengo que pasarlo al disco duro que funciona mal pero que si funciona con fat32 xd
[20:46] <Lapos> en principio
[20:47] <Lapos> ya tengo metido el de 1TB
[20:47] <Lapos> voy a ver si puedo formatear a NTFS que va a ser que no..
[20:48] <Lapos> de momento ya me sale el aviso Error sincronizando/cerrando /dev/sdc: Error de E/S en la máquina remota
[20:48] <mimecar> ¿ya has comprobado los errores?
[20:50] <Lapos> pero es que el error es ese
[20:50] <Lapos> me sale cada 2x3
[20:51] <mimecar> ...
[20:51] <Lapos> y cuando intento formatear a NTFS termina en el paso de
[20:51] <mimecar> al buscar los errores se reparan
[20:51] <Lapos> "establecer el tipo de particion en /dev/sdc1
[20:52] <Lapos> mira http://pastebin.com/mypm6RJw
[20:53] <mimecar> cuando compruebes los errores continuamos
[20:54] <Lapos> sectores dañados te refieres?
[21:01] <Lapos> no se que significa "COMPRUEBA LOS ERRORES"
[21:01] <Lapos> lo he intentado hacer con la aplicacion de discos (SMART) de ubuntu y me da mas info del error http://pastebin.com/RcUv8P9S
[21:10] <mefista_> comando para conectarse en el weechat de mac
[21:10] <leonardo_> mimecar probé con el kubuntu 15.10, pude instalarlo normalmente, pero no apaga ni reinicia
[21:11] <mimecar> leonardo_, entonces parece que tu placa base puede tener alguna incompatbilidad con Ubuntu
[21:11] <mimecar> ¿lo has comprobado?
[21:12] <leonardo_> ¿cómo lo compruebo?
[21:13] <mimecar> buscando en Google tu modelo de ordenador + Ubuntu
[21:13] <leonardo_> ok, lo haré gracias por tu ayuda
[21:16] <Lapos> lo he intentado mas y parece que, aunque me dijo que el formateo fue mal, se ha quedado con ntfs y de momento me esta copiando los datos
[21:16] <Lapos> :S
[21:16] <Lapos> osea ha petado un paso posterior el gparted
[21:17] <mimecar> no has comprobado los errores verdad?
[21:17] <Lapos> ya te he dicho que no se que quieres decir con eso de comprobar los errores
[21:17] <Lapos> es una frase demasiado ambigua
[21:17] <mimecar> ambigua no
[21:17] <mimecar> pasa alguna aplicación que compruebe los errores del disco y los corrija
[21:18] <mimecar> si tienes sectores defectuosos y guardas información, perderás la información
[21:18] <Lapos> yo lo que he hecho ha sido borrar toda la particion para que se juntara con una parte que estaba vacia del disco duro
[21:18] <Lapos> osea habia una particion en el disco duro y 1,2GB libres
[21:19] <Lapos> y quitando la particion se junto todo y la nueva particion ahora ocupa todo el disco
[21:19] <Lapos> ok osea tengo que comprobar que no haya sectores dañados
[21:19] <Lapos> "comprobar los errores" ...
[21:19] <Lapos> podia ser cualquier cosa
[21:20] <Lapos> de todas formas ahora parece que se esta pasando la maquina virtual
[21:20] <mimecar> ¿nunca has comprobado los errores de un disco en Windows?
[21:20] <Lapos> pero es que me decías esta frase cuando te estaba hablando de que me daba error una cosa
[21:20] <Lapos> y me dices "comprueba los errores"
[21:20] <Lapos> pues que quieres que haga?
[21:21] <Lapos> busque los errores estos en google y tal
[21:21] <Lapos> pero bueno
[21:21] <Lapos> y si voy a comprobar eso de los sectores pero cuando termine de copiar
[21:21] <Lapos> aunque seguro que no hay nada
[21:22] <mimecar> los errores que te ha sacado el sistema son de hardware
[21:22] <mimecar> no copies nada mientras no repares los errores del disco
[21:23] <Lapos> -_-
[21:24] <mimecar> ¿copiarías datos importantes en un disco que tiene errores?
[21:24] <Lapos> mientras funcione!
[21:25] <Lapos> ahora estoy comprobando si tiene errores a la vez que copio los datos
[21:25] <Lapos> para no perder tiempo
[21:25] <Lapos> estoy usando este comando sudo fsck -c -y -v /dev/sdc
[21:25] <mimecar> no se puede hacer al mismo tiempo
[21:25] <Lapos> mierd
[21:25] <Lapos> /dev/sdc is in use.
[21:25] <Lapos> e2fsck: No se puede continuar, se finaliza.
[21:25] <Lapos> bueno pues me espero 4 minutos
[21:25] <Lapos> que es loq ue dice que le falta para copiar
[21:25] <Lapos> xd
[21:55] <mefista_> mefista
[22:04] <successus> salud, hasta otro rato o/
[22:10] <mefista> instalar ubuntu en mi mac
[22:10] <mefista> desde un usb
[22:10] <mefista> en disco externo
[22:14] <mimecar> mefista, ¿cuál es la duda concreta?
[22:15] <bigmonkey> hola
[22:15] <bigmonkey> podrian ayudarme ??
[22:15] <mefista> instalar mi ubuntu en dual con mi mac
[22:16] <mimecar> mefista, crea un live USB y después haces la instalación en el diso externo
[22:16] <bigmonkey> Busco actualizar solo un paquete de qt5
[22:16] <bigmonkey> es qtbase5-dev
[22:16] <bigmonkey> en los repositorios viene la versión 2.1
[22:16] <bigmonkey> perdon 5.2
[22:16] <mimecar> ¿cuál necesitas?
[22:17] <bigmonkey> necesito la 5.4 y no veo como puedo alctualizar el paquete
[22:17] <bigmonkey> qtbase5-dev
[22:17] <mimecar> tendrás que añadir un PPA externo seguramente
[22:17] <bigmonkey> el problema es que no encuentro un repo con qt5 con ppa
[22:18] <bigmonkey> ¿que puedo hacer?
[22:19] <mimecar> comprueba si el proyecto KDE tiene alguno
[22:19] <mimecar> ese paquete tendrá dependencias seguramente
[22:19] <bigmonkey> vale
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2015-11-08-#xubuntu
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[00:03] <flocculant> xubuntu29w: yep - know that one, something awry somewhere and you need to save the images to a drive then view them - should get around to reporting that one
[00:04] <flocculant> of course - what would be awesome would be people checking things BEFORE we release
[00:04] <flocculant> what can you do when 5 or 6 people check things for 1000's
[00:05] <xubuntu29w> flocculant... ok but I remember to have had the same issue 2 years ago...
[00:05] <flocculant> xubuntu29w: ok - so where is the 2 year old bug report?
[00:06] <flocculant> we try really hard to get people to join in with testing - no-one bothers
[00:06] <xubuntu29w> Iflocculant: they could hire me as a tester... I'm very good at messing with a operating system and discovering bugs.. :) :)
[00:06] <flocculant> what can WE do other than ask
[00:06] <flocculant> xubuntu29w: then do it
[00:06] <xubuntu29w> and how do I do it??
[00:06] <flocculant> you are actually talking to the right person - what's your LP name?
[00:06] <xubuntu29w> because I'm a beginner with Linux...
[00:07] <xubuntu29w> LP name? sorry you pea chinese now... loll
[00:07] <flocculant> xubuntu29w: ... means nothing at all :)
[00:07] <xubuntu29w> speak...
[00:07] <flocculant> http://xubuntu.org/contribute/qa/
[00:08] <xubuntu29w> ahhhhhhh.. launchpad acount... I don't have one for the moment
[00:08] <flocculant> we are always asking people to join in and test
[00:08] <flocculant> and this cycle it will get more and more
[00:08] <flocculant> perhaps we need to ask elsewhere
[00:09] <flocculant> because quite frankly - coming and mentioning things 2 weeks after a release is 2 months too late
[00:09] <flocculant> and it really is completely depressing :|
[00:09] <xubuntu29w> flocculant: ok ! but the problem is I remember to have the same issue 2 years ago with Ubuntu...
[00:10] <xubuntu29w> so It's not specific to Xubuntu
[00:10] <flocculant> ok - so once again - where is the bug report? people are not telepathic - if YOU are the one that's seen it - report it
[00:10] <xubuntu29w> ok
[00:11] <xubuntu29w> i will create a LP account
[00:11] <xubuntu29w> and will send a bug report...
[00:12] <flocculant> thank you :)
[00:12] <xubuntu29w> flocculant: you're welcome !
[00:13] <flocculant> xubuntu29w: in response I have added a task to the XX blueprint to try and include normal users - and what they can do - and generally they will be surprised at how easily they can make things better
[00:13] <xubuntu29w> another question: as a beginner in Linux, do you know any internet site or document which explains very well how to use Linux?
[00:13] <flocculant> xubuntu29w: Xubuntu is a Community thing - that includes everyone
[00:14] <flocculant> https://www.linux.com/learn/new-user-guides/376-linux-is-everywhere-an-overview-of-the-linux-operating-system
[00:14] <xubuntu29w> I mean.. command lines, .tar.gz files for example....
[00:14] <flocculant> http://ubuntu-manual.org/?lang=en_GB
[00:15] <flocculant> xubuntu29w: I've only used it for ~10 years, I rarely need to do anything *normal* with a command line
[00:16] <flocculant> if I could say anything for Xubuntu - then it would be - report it
[00:16] <xubuntu29w> flocculant: thanks... I like better the ubuntu manual
[00:17] <flocculant> we might say that it's design or normal - but we really do try and read all the xubuntu bugs
[00:17] <flocculant> it really is not hard to get involved at all
[00:18] <flocculant> I turned up - now I deal with the testing and QA with a bunch of people - who JUST turned up to help
[00:18] <xubuntu29w> If I report a bug and the bug is resolved after... that's fine for me !
[00:18] <flocculant> yea - so you reported it - what's the bug number?
[00:19] <xubuntu29w> I didn't do it yet...
[00:19] <xubuntu29w> first I need to creat a LP account... :)
[00:19] <flocculant> much is generic - so we can't do anything about those - but as testers we can at least make it more known
[00:20] <flocculant> xubuntu29w: seriously - if you like Xubuntu, want to make it better - then get involved
[00:22] <flocculant> xubuntu29w: you still about?
[00:23] <xubuntu29w> yes
[00:23] <xubuntu29w> especially for this bug which pisses me off !!
[00:24] <xubuntu29w> for a long time
[00:24] <flocculant> xubuntu29w: would you be interested is some sort of session where a group of people who DO test are about to try and help you join in?
[00:24] <xubuntu29w> I will put a screenshot when I will report the bug... it will be easier
[00:24] <xubuntu29w> Yes I will...
[00:24] <flocculant> xubuntu29w: pictures paint a 10000 words ;)
[00:25] <flocculant> xubuntu29w: ok - so where do you get Xubuntu information? facebook?twitter? google? mailing lists?
[00:25] <xubuntu29w> when is the next session??
[00:26] <xubuntu29w> I only go to the xubuntu site...
[00:26] <xubuntu29w> that's all
[00:26] <flocculant> xubuntu29w: you and I are discussing it :
[00:26] <flocculant> :D
[00:27] <flocculant> xubuntu29w: so you just read whatever shows up at xubuntu.org ?
[00:27] <xubuntu29w> and I only use google if I need informations on how to do something in Xubuntu or Linux...
[00:27] <flocculant> xubuntu29w: but if you thought you could - then you would get more involved?
[00:28] <xubuntu29w> Yes I will... BUT.....
[00:28] <xubuntu29w> first I will need to know more how to do things in Linux...
[00:28] <flocculant> no
[00:29] <flocculant> no you don't
[00:29] <xubuntu29w> yes I do...
[00:29] <flocculant> what you need is to know how to say "I used this, now I use this - that seems wrong!"
[00:30] <xubuntu29w> I agree... but personaly I will feel more confident when reporting a bug if I know more about Linux and how to use it !
[00:31] <flocculant> xubuntu29w: yea - but where it falls apart is you report something then from the wrong viewpoint
[00:32] <flocculant> doing the fiddly bits comes (from my experience only) from trying to explaiin to 1 person why some thing is wrong
[00:33] <flocculant> you should NOT need to fiddle with conf files normally
[00:34] <xubuntu29w> ok
[00:35] <xubuntu29w> anyway.. whe would be the next session when a group of people who DO test are about to try and help join in?
[00:36] <xubuntu29w> when...
[00:37] <flocculant> xubuntu29w: I will try and get something set up in the next few weeks
[00:37] <xubuntu29w> ok
[00:38] <flocculant> xubuntu29w: it will show up on http://tracker.xubuntu.org/ and will get mentioned in all the social sites and both mailing lists
[00:39] <flocculant> we really are desperate to get people checking and reporting things
[00:39] <flocculant> xubuntu29w: thanks for talking to us :)
[00:39] <xubuntu29w> flocculant: no problem.... I will...
[00:40] <flocculant> :)
[00:40] <xubuntu29w> flocculant: be ready for more work ! :) :)
[00:45] <xubuntu29w> flocculant: sent you a messagein private
[00:59] <xubuntu29w> flocculant: thanks for your help..
[00:59] <xubuntu29w> see you next time !
[06:24] <doctorpepper> hello. I'm getting a message about being out of space in /boot when trying to apt-get dist-upgrade. I have a lot of older versions of abi, initird.img, System.map, and vmlinuz. Should I remove them?
[06:26] <doctorpepper> trying to remove them through dpkg or apt-get says tha tthey are not installed
[06:26] <Unit193> You need to get rid of a few kernels, what does sudo apt-get autoremove show?
[06:29] <doctorpepper> Unit193: http://pastebin.com/jDes3S8Y
[06:32] <Unit193> That's not a lot, doctorpepper. dpkg -l | grep -e linux-image -e linux-header
[06:35] <doctorpepper> Unit193: http://pastebin.com/wEe39uQL
[06:36] <Unit193> Yeeeep, you have a few.
[06:37] <doctorpepper> Probably shouldn't have gone with the default partition setup but I was being lazy.
[06:37] <doctorpepper> Either way it would have filled up eventually.
[06:38] <Unit193> Generally, you'd keep the newest and last functional one.
[06:40] <doctorpepper> how do I go about removing them? apt-get purge results in "E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'vmlinuz-3.19.0-31-generic'"
[06:41] <Unit193> You don't see that on the list do you? Just purge the packages that don't match the criteria aforementioned.
[06:48] <doctorpepper> Unit193: thanks, starting to get some space freed up
[06:48] <Unit193> \o/
[06:49] <doctorpepper> are the old ones supposed to get removed after the new one is installed?
[06:50] <Unit193> No, though on newer versions they get marked so autoremove will remove them.
[08:34] <howdystranger> Hi all. Just upgraded my desktop computer to 15.10 and now it hangs on the login screen with the rotating loading symbol
[08:34] <howdystranger> any ideas about what's going wrong?
[13:50] <amundsen> hi
[13:51] <amundsen> i'm using xub15.10 and when i updated to the last kernel, something went wrong with nvidia-prime because now i get a blank screen instead of getting to lightdm
[13:51] <amundsen> did anyone have this issue?
[17:16] <uflaig> hello everyone, memtest is missing and I dont know what to do
[17:16] <uflaig> in the grub menu
[18:23] <bn_> need some quick advice how to assign shortcut keys like Superkey + T = Terminal ?
[18:26] <mrkramps> bn_, settings → keyboard → application shortcuts
[18:27] <bn_> yes I know mrkramps
[18:27] <bn_> but I want to change for example super key + e to something else and not mousepad
[18:27] <bn_> but can't seem to find it there
[18:28] <bn_> nvm found it somewhere else
[18:28] <bn_> apparently was looking in the wrong spot
[18:28] <bn_> thanks though for the help mrkramps!
[18:29] <mrkramps> you're welcome
[20:55] <alessandro_> ho xubuntu e in fase di avvio va in stanby
[20:57] <Unit193> !it
[21:40] <SkippersBoss> evening the following error is buggung me ever since upgrading to 15.10 '/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/2' failed in libnm-glib.
[21:42] <SkippersBoss> Google search mentions a work around. Delete the existing entry reboot, select the ap and fill in key but i just want network manager to apply the key him self. any one a solution ??
[22:13] <JohnnyComeL8ly> SkippersBoss, I think you should do what works, and leave it at that.
[22:13] <JohnnyComeL8ly> (My 2 cents.... ^^^)
[22:24] <dixie7z_> hey guys, i have a problem with workspaces and applications staying in fixed/right positions after restart or shutdown... I googled it, a as it turns out there was a feature in previous versions that could remember on what position was app after restarting with saving the session... but it was buggy and was removed. How do you save your workspace.... I'm tired of shutting down every app and turning it back on after restart. I have 8 gi
[22:24] <dixie7z_> gs of ram so i usually just leave every app open. I use 14.04 LTS
[22:33] <JohnnyComeL8ly> dixie7z_, I think that is still a part of Xubuntu.
[22:34] <dixie7z_> JohnnyComeL8ly, well maybe but after saving the session every app locates itself on first workspace so i need to manually put it right back on right workspace
[22:35] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Check box "Save session for future logins" right on the power off menu (accessible from the "Whisker menu").
[22:35] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Oh, I think I see the problem....
[22:43] <dixie7z_> JohnnyComeL8ly, after googling a little bit more I think I found the solution http://superuser.com/questions/625529/xubuntu-session-issues-multiple-windows-positioning-workspaces
[22:43] <dixie7z_> devilspie
[22:47] <dixie7z_> brb
[22:58] <xubuntu12w> I Like Umbunu, didn't know there were other distros. I have a friend that has a really old 16 bit DOS program. Which distro of Umbuntu is the best?
[23:00] <JohnnyComeL8ly> xubuntu12w, you might try FreeDOS.
[23:01] <JohnnyComeL8ly> http://www.freedos.org/
[23:02] <knome> actually, i would just use the dosbox emulator for running dos apps
[23:03] <knome> that way you don't need to install a complete OS
[23:03] <Unit193> OMF2097!
[23:03] <xubuntu12w> Here is my status. I purchased a new computer and tried to back it down to windows 10 32 bit. No Go. I bought an old bare bones box. My Windows 10 32 bit came on a flash drive. The old box will not boot from the flash drive. Now I am thinking Linux may be a better solution. Which Linux should I start with. Again I like Umbuntu.
[23:04] <knome> xubuntu12w, just a note that it is "ubuntu" not "umbuntu"
[23:05] <knome> xubuntu12w, and there usually isn't an objective answer for "best" questions
[23:05] <knome> xubuntu12w, and since you are asking on the xubuntu channel, might i ask what do you expect us to answer...?
[23:06] <xubuntu12w> yup, noted, my typing skills have a lot to be desired
[23:06] <Unit193> knome: FreeBSD?
[23:06] <knome> Unit193, silly, of course it would be slackware
[23:08] <xubuntu12w> Can I or should I use any Linux OS or can Dosbox boot on its own and print the output I want. I was thinking I would have to have some sort of OS first.
[23:10] <JohnnyComeL8ly> xubuntu12w, Just use Xubuntu... and then if that doesn't work... try FreeDOS.
[23:10] <JohnnyComeL8ly> If you are using Xubuntu, all the more reason to try to just use the emu.
[23:10] <xubuntu12w> thanks, got it, awesome
[23:10] <xubuntu12w> bye
[23:11] <knome> xubuntu12w, dosbox needs a host os, but it works with windows too, for example
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-uk
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[03:48] <mapps> yo
[05:08] <mapps> yay gotham time
[07:37] <mapps> quiet ere
[08:02] <SuperEngineer> ssssshhhh ;-)
[08:13] <SuperEngineer> Bad moment: when you right click on a file and accidentally hit "delete" instead of rename
[08:14] <SuperEngineer> Good moment: you restore file in a few secounds from last night's "Back In Time" copy :-)
[10:14] <SuperEngineer> In Flanders Fields - John McCrae, May 1915 - http://paste.ubuntu.com/13192249/
[10:25] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:48] <MartijnVdS> \o brobostigon
[10:48] <brobostigon> hi MartijnVdS
[10:54] <bittin> morning
[16:27] <penguin42> popey: What's your boot time like - on this old core2 my boot time in W and X is pretty awful - 6.23s kernel, 46s userspace
[16:27] <diddledan> evening
[16:27] <popey> penguin42, not timed it
[16:27] <penguin42> popey: run systemd-analyze
[16:27] <popey> oooh
[16:27] <popey> Startup finished in 23.306s (kernel) + 3min 3.314s (userspace) = 3min 26.621s
[16:27] <penguin42> wow, I thought mine was bad
[16:27] <popey> heh
[16:28] <popey> oh, i know why
[16:28] <popey> mine hangs because I had two LUKs drives and got rid of one
[16:28] <popey> I have fixed it but not rebooted since
[16:28] <penguin42> ah
[16:28] <popey> actually maybe I have rebooted since and that's not it
[16:28] <popey> is there some detail to that report?
[16:28] <penguin42> yeh there are some options where you can get it to spit out a chart
[16:29] <penguin42> systemd-analyze plot > foo.svg
[16:29] <popey> ooh
[16:29] <popey> also blame
[16:30] <penguin42> popey: also, can you do a dmesg |grep ifup I see a pair of segs in there (with no apparent downside)
[16:30] <popey> i see nothing
[16:30] <penguin42> hmm fun
[16:30] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13196193/ is the blame
[16:31] <diddledan> wow that's awesome
[16:31] <popey> yeah
[16:31] <penguin42> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13196209/ is mine
[16:31] <popey> not seen this before
[16:31] <penguin42> the graph is pretty as well - very much like the old bootchart
[16:32] <popey> mine is quite red
[16:32] * penguin42 disables mysql startup and hope it wasn't needed by anything
[16:32] <diddledan> lol
[16:33] * diddledan disables the kernel and hopes it wasn't needed :-p
[16:33] <diddledan> who is this colonel anyway?
[16:33] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/foo.svg
[16:34] <popey> (I actually upgraded to xenial 3 days ago) :D
[16:34] <diddledan> that's absolutely amazing
[16:34] <popey> wonder if the kernel stuff is it waiting on my LUKS password?
[16:34] <DJones> diddledan: They're not a full "bird" colonel, more like a NCO, "corporal" :)
[16:34] <penguin42> popey: Yeh you do get the waiting for LUKS included somewhere - but I didn't think during the kernel
[16:35] <popey> unrelated, are you still rocking the oneplus penguin42 ?
[16:35] <popey> I ordered a OnePlus X (smaller new device they do) the other day
[16:36] <diddledan> "who needs a smartphone" "not me, I need fifteen smartphones :-p"
[16:36] <penguin42> popey: Yeh, still beign good to me - not done anything to exciting to it
[16:36] <popey> good to know it's lasted well :)
[16:36] <penguin42> popey: looks like your power manager needs forceful education
[16:36] <popey> heh yeah
[16:38] <penguin42> popey: http://www.treblig.org/debug/davros.svg
[16:38] <diddledan> davros?!
[16:38] <penguin42> diddledan: This old core2 laptop that mostly just runs irc :-)
[16:39] <popey> I'll do a couple of clean boots later and see if things have improved
[16:39] <diddledan> irc!
[16:39] <diddledan> \o/
[16:39] <popey> things change a lot in 3 days on the devel release, even over a weekend
[16:40] <diddledan> I guess being immediately after release of 15.10 there's a lot changing in xerus right now?
[16:40] <diddledan> or are we calling it xenial?
[16:41] <penguin42> popey: For comparison; my f23 desktop (i7, ssd so a lot faster) http://www.treblig.org/debug/major.svg
[16:41] <popey> wow
[16:42] <popey> my laptop is also i7/ssd
[16:42] <popey> "Cloud edition".. really? :)
[16:42] <penguin42> popey: Oh, I don't think anyone has a clue about f edition naming
[16:42] <popey> hah
[16:42] <popey> good good
[16:43] <penguin42> popey: To be fair the core2 is running KDE, and the i7 xfce
[16:43] <penguin42> so the later part of it is probably lighter
[16:43] <popey> I'm running MATE here
[16:44] <popey> unrelated, this is worth a read http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/07/fisherman-lost-at-sea-436-days-book-extract?CMP=fb_gu
[16:45] <penguin42> popey: OK, MATE off an SSD should be up and ready a few seconds after you give your LUKS password
[16:45] <popey> yeah
[16:46] <popey> this is a year or more old install that's been upgraded and had all kinds of crap installed
[16:46] <popey> needs a cleanup
[16:46] <penguin42> popey: You might be able to find your kernel part from a dmesg, see if it sticks anyway for a while
[16:46] <popey> yeah
[19:18] <diddledan__> what exactly does apt/dpkg mean when it says "selecting previously deselected package"?
[19:18] <diddledan__> seems in wily it's evolved from "deselected" to "unselected". still rather opaque as to what it actually means tho
[19:20] <daftykins> marking it from [] to like -> [install preez!]
[19:20] <diddledan> eh? those two messages took 40 minutes to arrive in the channel? (I sent them at 18:35 and 18:36 on my other machine and this one has only just attributed them at 19:18 for both - they're also listed after contempt, SupaYoshia and Stanley_Darth joined when my other machines has them sent before those joins)
[19:21] <diddledan> daftykins, so.. it's saying "I know you asked for them to be installed but I chose not to"?
[19:22] <diddledan> like I say "apt, go install this" and it says "you said to install it, but nyer nyer. I'm going to install it when I decide!"
[19:25] <zmoylan-pi> freenode was very laggy for me earlier but that's a new one
[19:26] <daftykins> diddledan: i thought it is more two tools together, dpkg does the installation whilst apt handles the database portion - so marking it to be installed is logging the desire - whilst dpkg is actioning it? might be wrong
[19:27] <diddledan> but my point is apt isn't selecting anything. _I_ selected it in the commandline and then apt tells me that it's selecting it again because it wasn't selected (by me!)
[19:27] <daftykins> that's just confirming prior state :D
[19:28] <diddledan> afaict it also says the same on stuff it's updating which I've already installed prior but has a new version
[19:28] <diddledan> it's just a pointless and silly message that makes no sense
[19:28] <diddledan> why not just say "installing X"
[19:28] <daftykins> hrmm
[19:29] <daftykins> but the real question, are you enjoying apt's progress bar? :D
[19:29] <zmoylan-pi> for the same same reason mode access standby replaced the archaic on/off :-)
[19:29] <diddledan> NO! because the messages are evil! :-p
[19:29] <diddledan> mode access?
[19:32] * zmoylan-pi realises i'm in a channel with kids who haven't read h2g2...
[19:41] <diddledan> oh dear, I've let you down, I've let geekdom down, and worse, I've let myself down
[19:43] * penguin42 admits to only knowing the radio series
[19:53] * zmoylan-pi is mentally preparing myself to the realisation that i'm the only one here who carries a towel...
[19:53] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: No, the radio series had the towels
[19:54] <penguin42> but, granted zmoylan-pi is a cool frood
[19:54] <diddledan> vogon poetry ftw
[19:56] <diddledan> I've decided that virgin media "super hub"s are far from super when used in routing mode
[19:56] <penguin42> oh, no they really aren't; mine is in modem mode
[19:56] <zmoylan-pi> if they have to describe it as super it's obviously lacking something...
[19:56] <diddledan> I'm on a 150Mbit/s connection and getting throughput of about 15KB/s
[19:57] <penguin42> diddledan: I do see people complaining about really bad areas, there are lots of stats things you can find on the router though
[19:57] <diddledan> aye
[19:57] <diddledan> I'm switching it back to modem mode methinks
[19:59] <daftykins> i used to like those simple little box modems back in 2006 they did... none of this 'superhub' really bad attempt at a router rubbish :>
[20:00] <diddledan> yeah I wish they'd go back to providing a bridge/modem and let the consumer decide what router they want
[20:00] <tripleclones> they did remove the modem option when they first released the superhub, came after customer pressure
[20:01] <diddledan> I also wish other mainstream providers would do the same - bt have their own thingy as do sky as do EE as do TalkTalk. It means you have to pay a premium to get a service without a router
[20:01] <penguin42> diddledan: Given that it does have a modem mode I can't really complain
[20:02] <diddledan> penguin42, except if you phone to tell them about a fault they query your box and say "oh, you're in modem mode, let me fix that for you"
[20:02] <penguin42> diddledan: And since they're the only UK DOCSIS provider it's not like their is a market for it
[20:02] <penguin42> diddledan: No, I've had them be OK with it being in modem mode
[20:03] <diddledan> I've had exactly that scenario play out over the phone
[20:03] <penguin42> huh ok
[20:03] <diddledan> they've rebooted my router and turned off the modem mode before I got the chance to say no
[20:03] <penguin42> diddledan: One thing, I find the log dates on the 'Network Log' page of modem mode has the month out by one - i.e. it runs from 0..11
[20:03] <diddledan> yeah that's wonky
[20:03] <diddledan> :-p
[20:04] <penguin42> diddledan: Have you been upgraded to the new 'vivid' - i.e. speed bump; my date for that keeps slipping (about 1 month every 2 weeks)
[20:04] <diddledan> no :-(
[20:04] <penguin42> diddledan: And I see most people on the forums are saying it's going slower - I guess they haven't bumped their backend bandwidth yet
[20:05] <diddledan> the website that tells you your expected date says I've got to wait until between April and September
[20:05] <penguin42> diddledan: Ah, mine started off by telling me that I would be told when by the end of October, then it said I'd be done in November, now it's telling me I'll be told when by the end of December
[20:06] <daftykins> when i heard the UK ISPs had started making their provided gear only work on their service, that was one step too far imo
[20:06] <daftykins> like sky had firmware modified netgears for their ADSL service a few years back iirc
[20:06] <diddledan> seriously shoddy IMO - they seemed to claim that the speed bump was nationwide with a switchon of october. now it transpires they aren't ready
[20:07] <penguin42> diddledan: Yeh they announced the speedbump at the same time as they put prices up
[20:07] <diddledan> daftykins they did
[20:07] <diddledan> daftykins now they have their own box which is effectively the same idea but isn't a rebadging job but an actual bespoke
[20:07] <daftykins> ah har
[20:09] <diddledan> the sky system requires a wonky dhcp request from the router which contains login details which sky won't tell you with the theory that you must use their router if they don't tell you the login detilas
[20:09] <penguin42> diddledan: Which speed grade are you on - I'm on the bottom
[20:09] <diddledan> top
[20:09] <diddledan> 152
[20:09] <penguin42> ah
[20:10] <tripleclones> http://www.speedtest.net/result/4776398837.png
[20:10] * penguin42 wouldn't know what to do with all those bits
[20:10] <penguin42> very nice upload
[20:11] <tripleclones> thats what I had when I was on 152Mbps
[20:12] <penguin42> they're supposed to be increasing the upload for those of us on the bottom rung when they do the update; it's currently 3mbps
[20:14] <tripleclones> we could live quite happily with a smaller tier
[20:16] <penguin42> the latency on virgin is what I normally find very impressive
[20:16] <zmoylan-pi> roll on the 11-31-2015 :-P
[20:17] <penguin42> why?
[20:18] <zmoylan-pi> the end of december according to the modem :-)
[20:18] <penguin42> yeh
[20:22] <zmoylan-pi> thus those that besmirched virgin were banshed :-)
[20:23] <zmoylan-pi> *banished
[20:34] <popey> i have a virgin media engineer coming here between 8am and 12pm
[20:34] <popey> not quite sure why, i think they think the cables are broken or something
[20:34] <popey> I do hope he doesn't use this as an excuse to push me to drop my STB
[20:36] <daftykins> gotta move with the times! :)
[20:42] <tripleclones> popey you still having issues then
[20:43] <popey> no
[20:43] <tripleclones> we had an outage last Wed/Thu but was everyone in area, think it must have been a hardware failure in the cabinets or such like
[20:54] <daftykins> VM does seem as stable as a cow balancing in a shopping trolley on top of Mr.Bean's mini
[20:55] <zmoylan-pi> but we would all watch that episode...
[20:57] * daftykins writes it and submits it to the BBC & Rowan Atkinson
[20:57] <popey> Mine is super stable
[20:57] <popey> I think I've had maybe 3 or 4 downtimes since I have been with them
[20:58] <daftykins> they used to have a lot of early hours drops back in my student days :)
[20:58] <daftykins> so if you keep sane times the majority might not be noticed
[21:16] <tripleclones> mine is stable as well, had it since we moved in 2009 and reckon we are under 5 really disruptive issues
[21:16] <tripleclones> and not many more minor niggles
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-de
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[09:15] <silverlion> guten Morgen von der OpenRheinRuhr!
[09:15] <silverlion> ;9
[09:16] <strohalm> moin
[09:16] <strohalm> hast spaß?
[09:18] <silverlion> momentan ist noch die Ruhe vor dem Nachmittagssturm
[09:19] <silverlion> sind alle gerade in unserem vortrag zum ubuntu phone :D
[09:19] <strohalm> achso
[09:20] <strohalm> bestimmt..
[11:57] <Anf> Guten Tag, wollte mal fragen, weiß jemand welche Farbnummer (RGB) die Taskleiste? glaub ich, also die Leiste Oben wo die Uhr und der Kalender sind hat?
[11:57] <bekks> Das kannst du mit einem Colorpicker selbst herausfinden.
[11:57] <jokrebel> und ist je nach Desktop, Thema UND Einstellung sowieso unterschiedlich.
[11:58] <Anf> Hab die Farbtabelle schon gefunden, aber da gibt es so viele gemischte Farben, das Sie sich nur minimal unterscheiden.
[11:58] <bekks> Ja, macht nix.
[11:58] <bekks> Nimm einenn Colorpicker und finde es heraus.
[11:58] <jokrebel> Anf: Gimp öffnen - Werkzeug Pipette benutzen - Drübergehn - anklicken - fertig
[12:01] <Anf> Alles klar. Vielen Dank Euch :)
[12:02] <Anf> Wusste erlich nicht mal, das es solche Tools gibt, hab gedacht, das man jetzt im Script schauen musste, welche Farbnummer eingetragen wurde.
[12:02] <bekks> In was für einem Script denn?
[12:22] <dAnjou> hi, wie kann ich in 14.04+gnome nautilus dazu bringen, durch die entf taste dateien und ordner zu löschen?
[12:24] <dAnjou> strg+entf geht übrigens auch nich
[12:24] <dAnjou> das würd ich ja auch noch benutzen
[12:24] <jokrebel> dAnjou: Also in Nautilus unter Unity geht das. Einfach Datei oder Ordner mit der Maus markieren - ENTF drücken und es wird in den Papierkorb verschoben.
[12:26] <jokrebel> weil das Umsch+Enf ist. Tastaturzuordnungen kann man aber auch ändern.
[12:31] <dAnjou> nee, umschalt+entf überspringt doch den trash, oder?
[12:32] <bekks> Ja.
[12:33] <dAnjou> naja, ich habs grad irgendwie hinbekommen
[12:34] <dAnjou> wie genau, kann ich nich mehr nachvollziehen :D
[12:35] <mrkramps> Anf, außer gimp gibt es als farbpipette noch gcolor2 und gpick
[13:22] <newan> Hallo, ich habe da mal ne frage. würde gerne mit ubuntu 15.10 auf einen scp server zugreifen. Wenn ich im "explorer" (ist das nautilus in unity?) auf "server verbinden" gehe habe ich keine auswahl mehr und kann keinen port angeben, muss ich da noch irgendwas installieren?
[13:23] <nagetier> newan, die Auswahl hattest du aber mal?
[13:24] <newan> früher, also nicht in der installation
[13:24] <nagetier> und IP kannst nicht angeben?
[13:25] <ppq> newan, sind die pakete gvfs-backends und gvfs-fuse installiert?
[13:25] <newan> Gerade nachgeshen, beide installiert
[13:26] <ppq> dann müsste nautilus das eigentlich können, per ssh://ip
[13:26] <ppq> oder sftp://ip
[13:27] <newan> ja das macht es aber wo geb ich da einen port an?
[13:27] <newan> ssh läuft auf der remotemaschine nciht auf 22
[13:27] <nagetier> wenn den unbedingt benötigst per :[PORT]
[13:28] <ppq> ssh://ip:port/
[13:28] <ppq> kannst auch ein bookmark dafür anlegen
[13:28] <newan> danke
[13:33] <newan> funktionert wunderbar, hatte nur immer -p versucht!
[13:33] <jokrebel> newan: Drück im Nautilus mal STRG+L. Oder du klickst auf "Los" - "Ort eingeben..."
[13:35] <jokrebel> hm - war ich wohl schon wieder "hinten dran" mit meinen Tipps
[13:57] <newan> jokrebel: trotzdem danke
[14:27] <Anf> Hab eben die Farbpipette mit Gimp ausprobiert, aber die Farbe in der Taskleiste wird nicht angezeigt
[14:28] <frostschutz> musst einen screenshot machen und den screenshot in gimp öffnen und dann im screenshot die pipete
[14:30] <Anf> Das ist logisch, ich dachte es geht sofort, das Gimp diese funktion unterstützt. Danke für den Tipp mit dem Screenshot. :)
[14:31] <dreadkopp> moin. ich versuche gerade ein ausrangiertes netbook als wifi-empfänger für die skybox meiner Eltern zu verwenden. dazu Ethernetkabel in skybox und netbook, netbook mit plan verbinden. dann mit brctl eine Brücke erstellt und wlan0 und eth0 hinzugefügt...
[14:31] <dreadkopp> tut sich nur leider nix
[14:58] <sdx23> Anf: es gibt auch Tools, die das direkt können. gcolor2, 3 und pychrom
[15:00] <Anf> Super, Danke. Hab es mit dem Screenshot und Gimp hinbekommen, aber je nach stelle, ist das Ergebniss anders, obwohl es die gleiche Farbe sein soll, also macht es Gimp nicht so ganz genau. Versuche es gleich mit den hier genannten Tools.
[15:09] <frostschutz> gimp macht das genau, aber sobald transparenz und farbverläufe hinzukommen, hat halt jeder pixel ne andere farbe
[15:21] <stevieh> vielleicht hast du den Screenshot auch als jpg gespeichertß
[16:41] <Guest14846> Hallo! Wie gehts?
[16:42] <hatt> Danke, gut :-)
[16:44] <Guest14846> Es geht mir gut :-)
[17:04] <blabla> Hi
[17:04] <robert_1> hi
[17:04] <Guest14846> Welche Art von Musik haben Sie gern?
[17:04] <Guest14846> Hi
[17:06] <blabla> #Ist mein erster Besuch im IRC , kann ich hier gleich mein Problem beschreiben?
[17:06] <DerProfessor> Hallo Leute, ja blabla kannst Du
[17:08] <blabla> OK, alos bin relativ neu in Linux, hier meine Frage: Habe 15.04 Server auf Intel NUC installiert, und finde nicht mehr die Einsellungen für den Standby time out
[17:08] <blabla> der Rechner geht also nach ca. 1 Stund in S3 (Standby) und wo kann ich die Zeit ändern?
[17:11] <jokrebel> blabla: Server? Also ohne GUI?
[17:12] <blabla> ja, headless, nur über SSH
[17:12] <blabla> TLP habe ich deaktiviert, trotzdem schläft er noch ein
[17:15] <jokrebel> Im BIOS ist suspend aus?
[17:17] <blabla> hmm, BIOS habe ich nicht geprüft, da muss ich den Rechner an einen Monitor stecken, aber ist ein guter Hinweis, dachte nur das würde man im Ubunto irgendwo einstellen
[17:17] <blabla> so wie im GUI in den Energieeinstellungen
[17:18] <jokrebel> blabla: Vielleicht hilft auch https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Skripte/AutoSuspend#Dauerlauf-erzwingen
[17:19] <blabla> ja, die seite habe ich auch entdeckt, dachte nur es ginge ohne script nur über irgendeine config datei
[17:20] <blabla> aber werde mal den Rechner an Monitor anstecken und BIOS durchsehen
[17:22] <blabla> danke und ciao allerseits
[18:41] <jokrebel> In unregelmäßigen Abständen werde ich (wieder) nach meinem Schlüsselbund-Passwort gefragt kurz nach dem Auto-Login. Stelle ich da dann das Passwort wieder um auf "leer" (ja ich weiß, das ist unsicher wegen Klartextspeicherung) geht es wieder ein paar Wochen oder auch Monate. Urplötzlich poppt aber die Abfrage dann wieder auf.
[18:46] <sdx23> kaputt.
[18:48] <strohalm> ablaufdatum
[18:59] <smeexs> dieser schlüsselbund nervt mich auch , ich brauch das nicht
[18:59] <bekks> Ich nutz den nicht.
[19:13] <nils_2> heisst das ding nicht kwallet? einfach deinstallieren und ruhe ist
[19:13] <bekks> So heisst das bei KDE.
[19:18] <thekillingskull> hy, ich möchte meine cam einschalten. hatte auf meinem medion akoya 1210 14.04 trusty jar installiert und dabei die cam aus/ nicht eingeschaltet. jetzt upgedatet auf 15.xx . wie kann ich die cam ein/ausschalten? danke
[19:19] <ppq> thekillingskull, wieso erwähnst du das upgrade explizit? funktionierte sie früher und jetzt nicht mehr?
[19:19] <bekks> thekillingskull: wie hast du sie denn früher ein/aus-geschaltet?
[19:20] <thekillingskull> nein,hatte sie unter ubuntu noch nicht an. erwähn ich,weil ich keine ahnung habe :)
[19:20] <ppq> thekillingskull, dann probier einfach mal, sie in "cheese" oder einem ähnlichen programm zum laufen zu bringen
[19:20] <ppq> thekillingskull, https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Webcam
[19:21] <thekillingskull> cheese geöffnet...
[19:21] <thekillingskull> da hatte ich schon mal ein foto von mir gemacht. mehr kann ich da nicht machen...?
[19:22] <mrkramps> oO dann funktioniert die doch
[19:22] <jokrebel> Na wenn damit schon mal ein Foto ging, kann es ja nicht mehr so wild sein.
[19:24] <thekillingskull> "kein gerät gefunden"
[19:27] <mrkramps> thekillingskull, ausgabe von lsusb?
[19:30] <thekillingskull> Webcam identifizieren: ~$ lsusb Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0bda:0158 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. USB 2.0 multicard reader Bus 001 Device 008: ID 4971:ce23 SimpleTech Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 D
[19:30] <thekillingskull> vermute ce23 SimpleTech ist meine cam...?
[19:31] <bekks> Bitte benutz einen Pastebin. :)
[19:31] <ppq> das ist laut google ein usb-stick
[19:31] <ppq> oder eine usb hdd
[19:46] <thekillingskull> sorry,hatte es schon gelesen,aber vergessen. wie geht pastebin?
[19:47] <debitux> nicht indem man die seite schliest ^^'
[23:06] <me_xy> hi
[23:06] <me_xy> jemand da der mir erklären kann, wie ich mit efibootmgr den windows eintrag so ändern kann, dass die partition stimmt?
[23:07] <me_xy> hab beim verschieben von windows von einer auf ne andere ssd irgendwie was versaut
[23:11] <thekillingskull> oh....wie finde ich den chat, den ich vor ein paar stunden begonnen hatte?
[23:11] <k1l> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ dort
[23:12] <k1l> oder mal einen vernünftigen irc client nutzen und nicht den webchat. dnan kannste auch selber loggen
[23:17] <thekillingskull> danke,weiss leider den titel nicht,aber hab noch ungefähr im kopf was wichtig war
[23:18] <thekillingskull> hmm...wie nutze ich einen vernünftigen irc client?
[23:18] <k1l> installiere mal hexchat und nutze das.
[23:20] <thekillingskull> wie installiere ich einen hexchat?
[23:20] <ppq> über die paketverwaltung
[23:20] <thekillingskull> tut mir leid, aber ich hab echt keine ahnung :(
[23:20] <ppq> thekillingskull, http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Paketverwaltung
[23:20] <ppq> viel lesen, du musst
[23:20] <ppq> :)
[23:21] <thekillingskull> schitt! ich hasse lesen...brrr
[23:21] <me_xy> lol
[23:21] <thekillingskull> glaub, ich hohl mir erst mal n bier...fass
[23:22] <me_xy> niemand hier der sich mit efibootmgr auskennt und mir sagen kann, wie ich die richtige windows partition festlegen kann?
[23:22] <me_xy> momentan sieht der windows eintrag so aus http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?827013
[23:23] <ppq> würd ja einfach boot-repair laufen lassen und aufs beste hoffen *hust*
[23:25] <me_xy> ppq, ich hab schon versucht nen win10 install usb stick zu machen, aber der reklamiert nur dass eine rep nicht möglich ist
[23:26] <me_xy> ich geh eben davon aus, dass er am falschen ort sucht weil ich windows auf ne neue ssd umgezogen habe, vorhin wars auf partition sda3 und neu auf sda4
[23:33] <ppq> me_xy, ich meinte programm namens boot-repair von einer ubuntu live-cd aus
[23:44] <me_xy> irgendwie klapt das bei mir mit dem ppa nicht
[23:44] <me_xy> hab das zugefühgt, ist auch in der sources.list drin
[23:44] <me_xy> trotzdem find ich mit apt-cache search boot-repair nix
[23:44] <k1l> apt update gemacht?
[23:56] <me_xy> ja
[23:56] <me_xy> in /etc/apt/sources.list is der eintrag auch drin
[23:57] <k1l> da ist der auch falsch. PPAs gehören als file in den sources.list.d ordner
[23:58] <me_xy> dass ich mit kali unterwegs bin sollte ja zum vorgehen keinen unterschied machen nehme ich an?
[23:59] <k1l> naja, wenn es mit kali nicht geht und ubuntu schon, wird es wohl an kali liegen
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-bugs
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[09:32] <pstft> Hi. I've come across a bug related to the *lock screen* in *Kubuntu 15.10*. The bot from Launchpad is asking me to specify the related package. However, the Ubuntu wiki isn't especially helpful ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingScreenLocking/HowScreenLockingWorks#KDE_.28Kubuntu.29 ). Could someone tell me what the related package is?
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.868579
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-nz
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[16:05] <olly> morning
[18:06] <ibeardslee> morning
[21:43] <gzcwnk> hi
[23:28] <hads> morning
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-tn
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[20:01] <mouheb> Bonsoir a tous
[20:01] <mouheb> elacheche: Bonsoir
[20:01] <elacheche> Bonsoir mouheb !
[20:01] <crack3r> bonsoir mouheb
[20:02] <elacheche> Yo crack3r !
[20:02] <mouheb> cava ?
[20:03] <elacheche> ça passe :)
[20:03] <elacheche> chargui: o/
[20:03] <mouheb> elacheche: :)
[20:03] <chargui> o/ elacheche
[20:06] <chargui> elacheche, did you check the pad ?
[20:06] <elacheche> Yep.. chargui we need a VERY important information that you didn't write :)
[20:06] <elacheche> Reminder → http://pad.tn/p/CLLFSM_IT_Workshop
[20:07] <chargui> what information ?
[20:07] <elacheche> #3
[20:09] <chargui> ahh you will be the one deciding haw many days it will be based on the technical background
[20:10] <crack3r> hey elacheche :)
[20:11] <chargui> but neo visited us on the python workshop and I think it will be longer than I though base on what he said
[20:11] <elacheche> chargui: nope.. You propose those information.. Based on all what in the pad I can decide about everything..
[20:11] <elacheche> chargui: You want to make it quicker to make decisions about that Workshop?
[20:13] <chargui> mouheb, is it ok to have 2 or 3 days for the workshop ?
[20:13] <elacheche> chargui: Share that link with your TEAM, your friends interessted by the workshop.. LEt them write their ideas.. By the end of this week I'll write an other pad with my porposal, based on what you want & what I know that we can/can't do..
[20:13] <nizarus> parlé d'admin système avec des étudiants qui ne savent pas à quoi sert un chemin :/ je suis pessimiste !
[20:14] <nizarus> il faut faire une dure sélection si on veut que le workshop avance
[20:14] <elacheche> nizarus: c'est pourquoi nimrij féhom pour ne pas avoir une seul journée :)
[20:14] <chargui> nizarus, that's exactly what neo said
[20:15] <nizarus> elacheche, toi tu es partant pour plusieurs journées ?
[20:15] <elacheche> nizarus: chargui don't think that the workshop will be a very advanced one.. As a first edition it should be a 101.. But the content can be good..
[20:16] <nizarus> chargui, il faut multiplier les actions -> python programming, C programming, shell scripting ...
[20:16] <elacheche> nizarus: Oui, je suis dispo persque tout les Samedi (Sauf un engagement urgent de derniere minute)
[20:19] <chargui> elacheche, just found an idea !
[20:20] <elacheche> shoot me :D
[20:20] <mouheb> chargui: klem anis s7i7 , we should share the pad with our team and make a decision , because w have a plan of work
[20:21] <chargui> on peut avoir 2 ou trois jours de formation et puis on peut la terminer sur irc => bonne occasion "bech ya3rfou el irc el 3ajib chnouwa"
[20:21] <elacheche> chargui: irc c'est pas un option :D On va terminer les session sur IRC :)
[20:22] <elacheche> Pour le workshop sur place, il faut prévoir un planning baser sur le nbre des journées sur place + combien d'heures/jour
[20:22] <elacheche> De cette façon on peut créer un planning adapter à ce timing :)
[20:24] <chargui> si j'ai bien compris pas de irc tout le travail sera fait sur place
[20:24] <mouheb> non ! au contraire
[20:25] <mouheb> si j'ai bien compris :v
[20:25] <elacheche> just a sec, I have a phone call x(
[20:26] <mouheb> take ur time
[20:26] <chargui> mouheb, "irc c'est pas un option" = no :v
[20:27] <elacheche> nop pas ça
[20:27] <elacheche> att
[20:27] <mouheb> chargui: ey kammel 3ad
[20:27] <mouheb> chargui: est ce qu'on peut faire plus que 2 seances sur place ?
[20:28] <mouheb> tu sais bien qu'on a un plan et des objectifs a faire
[20:28] <chargui> ui le 5 et le 12 decembre
[20:29] <chargui> et si on peut le 19 aussi
[20:30] <chargui> mais je pense que tout le monde vont rentrer chez eux le 19 seul les interresés resteront
[20:30] <elacheche> re
[20:31] <elacheche> chargui: J'ai dis que IRC n'est pas un option! On DOIT faire des session sur IRC après les sessions sur places.. de cette façon on aura des personnes qui peuvent aider les nouvelles personnes qui vont nous rejoindre après plusieurs sessions!
[20:32] <elacheche> C'est claire ou pas encore?
[20:32] <chargui> ui c'est ce que j'ai dit je pense que tu m'a mal compris mais on est d'accord de toute façon
[20:32] <elacheche> Pour l'instant on DOIT fixer un planning d'un workshop présentiel..
[20:33] <elacheche> :D
[20:33] <elacheche> chargui: on est toujours d'accord ;)
[20:34] <chargui> elacheche, let me tell you the truth to not be surprise
[20:35] <chargui> les etudiant ya3rfouch yod5lou el un dossier avec le terminal un simple cd /home/odadadaaaa ma ya3rfouhech
[20:35] <chargui> just be be prepared
[20:36] <nizarus> c'est pour ça que j'ai abandonné l'enseignement du module administration système après 2 ans de souffrance :'(
[20:36] <elacheche> Béhi, chargui mouheb.. Je suis encore un étudiant et je sais très de quoi tu parle :) C'est pourquoi j'ai bien dis que ça sera un "Wrokshop SysAdmin 101" ou "cli 101".. Vous partager le lien avec le team, et d'autres personnes! Vers la fin de la semaine je vous passe un planning baser sur tout ce que je vais trouver dans le pad.. Je vais essayer d'écrire que les trucs que je sais qu'on peut les faire
[20:36] <elacheche> :)
[20:38] <chargui> for me having 3 or 4 people good enough to learn than having 20 people who know nothing and btw we have very very smart kids (16 years old)
[20:38] <elacheche> chargui: I did not want to tell you that you're wrong last meeting, but what you & sahnoun wrote in the goal section is impossible :D I know it is :) Especially if we'll have only 3 sessions :)
[20:39] <elacheche> chargui: Can I explain something?
[20:41] <chargui> nizarus, est ce que vous pouvez nous donné votre avis à propos de la durée et tout
[20:41] <chargui> ui elacheche hit me
[20:42] <elacheche> The workshop with Ubuntu-tn should be done on at least 3 days! We need to make them like 101 → 102 → 103 workshops! With a goal or an achievement for every day.. If a person can't achieve that goal he can't pass to the next one.. HERE where CLLFSM should be involved more, by hosting an other session for the failled persons without the help of utn :)
[20:43] <chargui> mmmmmm i see clearly now and i'm kinda like this idea 3:)
[20:43] <elacheche> chargui: Si tu me dis qu'on aura 1 seul samedi je te prépare un workshop de 8h dans 2h de mkdir/cd/ls/grep/pwd/touch/less et 2h de 101 scripting et le reste une MEP d'un serveur web basic..
[20:44] <elacheche> Si ça sera plus que ça, on peut planifier autre chose adapter à plusiuers facteur qu'on a :)
[20:44] <elacheche> mouheb: ech 9awlik :)
[20:44] <chargui> and if it will be 3 days from 13 to 17 how will it be ?
[20:45] <nizarus> pour assister au 101 il faut avoir un PC uniquement avec GNU/Linux os pas de double boot :p
[20:45] <elacheche> lool nizarus :D J'ai pensé à les passer des accès ssh sur des micro-vps sur ma machine :D
[20:46] <elacheche> chargui: for that I should have all your propositions! Then as I told you, I'll prepare a planning that we'll discuss it later :)
[20:50] <elacheche> Am I still online?
[20:50] <chargui> yes we will do that
[20:50] <elacheche> :)
[20:51] <mouheb> oui c mieu
[20:51] <elacheche> Ok, share that link! I'll do what I said by the end of the week, then will discuss my planning porposal :)
[20:52] <chargui> consider it done \o
[20:53] <elacheche> :D
[20:57] <mouheb> alors c quand la prochaine reunion irc ?
[20:59] <elacheche> mouheb: chui toujours sur irc :) kif ti9la9 ija a3mal 3liya talla :)
[20:59] <elacheche> Sinon, la prochaine étape de ma part et de préparer le planning etl e partager sur ML, puis on discute ici ou sur ML :)
[21:00] <mouheb> lol ok mela mata9la9ch menni bark :D
[21:01] <elacheche> :) Eni mé nit9ala9ich :D ubuntulog_ et ChanServ peut être :p :D
[21:02] <mouheb> sorry !
[21:03] <mouheb> i donnow what i did
[21:04] <elacheche> nothing :D I was kidding :)
[21:06] <mouheb> lol mech akeka , jit nbarbech 3malt ignore el wehed me les membres w 5rajli msg
[21:06] <mouheb> fibeli teb3ath
[21:06] <mouheb> tefja3t
[21:06] <mouheb> :D
[21:06] <elacheche> lool x)
[21:07] <nizarus> elacheche, réserve un samedi pour présenter u-tn et faire un petit workshop de prise en main à polytech Monastir
[21:07] <mouheb> lool mezelt nektachef mate5ouch 3leya
[21:08] <nizarus> il y a aussi Wilfrid de la cote d'ivoire qui sera en Tunisie la semaine prochaine
[21:08] <nizarus> je vais voir si je peux l'inviter pour une conférence à la FSM
[21:09] <elacheche> nice nizarus
[22:03] <Na3iL> o/
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-gnome
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[01:50] <shawn> hello. since I updated to wily my system has been going into gnome fallback mode. I cant figure out what is wrong. I tried looking in the xorg log
[01:52] <shawn> http://termbin.com/6ykz
[01:53] <shawn> that is the xorg log^
[01:55] <shawn> http://i.imgur.com/tSoPpRv.png
[01:57] <shawn> these are the symptoms: the blocky look to the buttons, the "task bar" at the bottom, the grey color of the system bars^
[03:22] <darkxst> shawn, is gnome-settings-daemon running?
[03:23] <darkxst> also pastebin `journalctl -b /usr/bin/gnome-session` output
[05:07] <shawn> OK sec
[05:08] <shawn> http://termbin.com/kytp
[05:08] <shawn> yes gnome-settings-daemon is running
[05:25] <darkxst> shell crashed
[05:25] <darkxst> Nov 07 18:34:30 minz-HP-G62-Notebook-PC gnome-session[1306]: gnome-session[1306]: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry....
[05:25] <darkxst> Nov 07 18:34:30 minz-HP-G62-Notebook-PC gnome-session[1306]: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry....
[05:28] <darkxst> shawn, are you using gnome3-staging ppa?
[05:43] <shawn> nope
[05:45] <darkxst> shawn, that also looks like gnome classic, did you try normal gnome session?
[07:03] <shawn> It doesn't have that option in GDM unless the menu is hidden
[07:03] <shawn> I think itnis getting forced to be in "Gnome classic" mode
[07:08] <darkxst> shawn, there is nothing to force it, you should see a "gear" cog after clicking your username
[07:15] <shawn> I'll look again for one tomorrow, but that was one of the first things I looked for
[07:15] <shawn> I already put it away for the night
[07:42] <shawn> darkxst: somehow it got changed to classic and the icon for the menu was missing
[07:43] <shawn> But I clicked around for the invisable click target and found the menu
[07:44] <darkxst> oh, that was meant to be fixed in wily, can you file a bug
[11:56] <lindol> hi all :)
[13:58] <eliasps> darkxst sorry for the absence. Was dealing with some work-related responsibilities. Regarding clutter's sru, there are many stuff that need to be bumped, dependencies versions.
[17:02] <Olotila> I have 2 new notifications in lock screen
[17:03] <Olotila> it says: Files 2 new notifications
[17:03] <Olotila> but when I login, I see nothing about any notifications
[17:03] <Olotila> where can I find the actual notifications?
[21:33] <darkxst> eliasps, ok, don't worry about it
[21:34] <darkxst> ricotz, I am going to rename gdm to sync up with debian, but is there some easy way to migrate /etc/gdm -> /etc/gdm3?
[21:42] <ricotz> darkxst, look at gdm3.maintscript
[21:46] <darkxst> ricotz, mv_conffile can only move individual files though?
[21:48] <darkxst> and there could in theory be custom hook scripts in there (although don't know if anyone uses those)
[21:52] <ricotz> darkxst, a symlink might be a painless way
[22:09] <darkxst> ricotz, ok, will try that
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.889438
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-server
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[00:32] <cambazz> hello, i just apt-get upgraded a remote server, and it is asking me about configuring grub-pc - and this is a server in hetzner - it is asking which harddrive to install
[00:32] <cambazz> i got /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc into a /dev/md1 and /dev/md2
[00:33] <cambazz> so i dont know where to install
[00:47] <cambazz> well it worked, i found the correct disk
[09:47] <hackemate> hi, what "update" in apt-get really does? does a query in a certain database to detect which new packages are available?
[09:47] <bekks> It queries the update servers for new package lists.
[09:48] <hackemate> but it compares that new list to the installed packages?
[09:49] <hackemate> i wonder if apt-get manages a database with used packages or check which packages are installed all the time
[09:50] <bekks> It does not compare packages.
[09:50] <bekks> update downloads new package lists, if available.
[09:50] <bekks> dist-upgrade compares the installed packages against the package lists and installs updated packages.
[09:50] <hackemate> ok
[10:39] <lordievader> Good morning.
[17:30] <cynixx3> I am having a very difficult time getting php to write an error log. The settings I change are showing up in phpinfo() I tried the webroot direcory and /var/log/apache2 but nethier writ to the file. Permissions are 640 and i have tried many owners. What am I missing or doing wrong?
[17:38] <ikonia> cynixx3: what is the user that is trying to write the log file ?
[17:40] <cynixx3> ikonia, I am not sure. I have tried the apache user and the web user as well as the log group adm when it was in var/log/apache2 like the rest of the files in those directories.
[17:41] <ikonia> cynixx3: why do you think it's related to permissions ?
[17:42] <cynixx3> ikonia, I am really not sure what the problem is. permissions are just a guess.
[17:43] <ikonia> so how have you gone about debugging this ?
[17:43] <ikonia> what sort of logging/log file are you expecting ?
[17:45] <cynixx3> I am trying to get php errors, depricated functions, and script coding errors. I have taken the steps in my initial question. changed php.ini, created the file, updated owner and perms to what it looked like it needed, and reloaded apache2.
[17:45] <captine> hi all. Am not a big tech. Am an accountant, but love linux etc and am messing around. Am wanting to know what is better for a production single server to run multiple applications etc? Juju, or straight docker?
[17:45] <captine> very opinionated, but struggling to get an idea of which to play with first
[17:45] <captine> suggestions welcome
[17:47] <cynixx3> ikonia, when it didnt work in /var/log/apache2/phperror.log I moved it to my webroot directory and changed the owner and permissions to match the rest of the files, restarted apache and the log is still 0b after viewing some php pages with issues.
[17:59] <ikonia> cynixx3: that sounds like php is not setup correctly to log
[18:00] <ikonia> if the file is getting generated (you don't need to change the owner) that means the web service is creating it
[18:00] <cynixx3> I created the file
[18:00] <cynixx3> and phpinfo is showing that logging is on and it shows the directory I set when I change it.
[18:03] <ikonia> you may not have the error level/redirect setup properly
[18:37] <PryMar56> can someone paste: tree /boot/efi or ls -al /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu
[18:37] <PryMar56> I tried to script a Vivid install under EFI in a VM and it works, but I never see a grub menu
[18:38] <PryMar56> tree sometimes is garbled without unicode support
[18:41] <PryMar56> grub-install seems to do all the right things including a boot entry in EFI menu
[18:48] <PryMar56> to add EFI entry: efibootmgr -c -L ubuntu -l \\EFI\\ubuntu\\grubx64.efi --disk /dev/xvda --part 1
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-ro
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[16:15] <iceman_> hi
[16:15] <iceman_> ciao tuturor
[16:17] <iceman_> ciao tuturor
[16:17] <iceman_> ce faceti?
[16:56] <annonymus> hi
[16:56] <annonymus> ikonia,
[16:57] <ikonia> ?
[16:57] <annonymus> How are you? today
[16:57] <ikonia> fine
[16:57] <ikonia> just writing an email to hangarhosting.net
[16:57] <ikonia> so a litle buy
[16:57] <ikonia> busy
[17:04] <annonymus> hi
[17:04] <annonymus> ikonia,
[17:05] <annonymus> ikonia,
[17:07] <annonymus> can someone help me/
[17:07] <annonymus> ikonia, please help me
[17:11] <bazhang> help is being enabled annonymus
[17:12] <annonymus> oh ok
[17:12] <annonymus> but i need to talk to ikonia
[17:12] <bazhang> not the kind you want, but still help
[17:12] <annonymus> i have an bot sending messages over irc to ubuntu channels
[17:13] <annonymus> i need to delete it QUIQK
[17:13] <annonymus> im running ubuntu 15.10
[17:14] <annonymus> please help QUICK
[17:36] <liveuser> ikonia,
[17:36] <ikonia> yes ?
[17:38] <liveuser> sorry for that
[17:38] <liveuser> do u know the spam mesages from iceman_?
[17:39] <liveuser> ikonia,
[17:39] <ikonia> yes ?
[17:40] <liveuser> do u know the spam mesages from iceman_?
[17:41] <ikonia> yes, what about them ?
[17:43] <liveuser> so they are from me. Im sorry about them i find the problem. my laptop was virused and some program intalled a bot that send random messages to irc. right now im reinstalling my laptop. right now im on an live usb
[17:44] <ikonia> nah, they are not a virus
[17:44] <ikonia> you did it on purpose as the logs show
[17:44] <ikonia> it's all included in my email to hangarhosting
[17:44] <liveuser> it was an virus that cracked my laptop
[17:44] <ikonia> same way you lied and said it was your brother
[17:44] <liveuser> this is real
[17:44] <liveuser> can u do something for me please?
[17:44] <ikonia> I think we'll let the people at hangarhosting sort it
[17:44] <ikonia> as you proved in #ubuntu-ops
[17:45] <ikonia> you did it manually
[17:45] <ikonia> and the logs show
[17:45] <ikonia> so lets see what hangarhosting say about your behaviour with all the logs
[17:45] <liveuser> i will never join irc,forums ubuntu stuff etc i will never touch ubuntu again but please dont send that email
[17:45] <ikonia> I'm sure they can track down Dragos Criste pretty easy
[17:45] <ikonia> no, that mail is getting sent
[17:45] <ikonia> with all the logs and details
[17:45] <liveuser> i will give you anything
[17:46] <ikonia> don't want anything
[17:46] <liveuser> please
[17:46] <liveuser> my pc was virused
[17:47] <ikonia> lies
[17:47] <liveuser> not ant lies
[17:47] <ikonia> yes it is
[17:47] <liveuser> please trust me this time
[17:47] <ikonia> I respect the truth
[17:47] <liveuser> how can i prove it?
[17:47] <ikonia> I punish lies
[17:47] <liveuser> this is TRUTH
[17:47] <liveuser> please trust me for this one thime
[17:48] <ikonia> no
[17:48] <liveuser> why?
[17:48] <ikonia> I hope the people at hangarhosting believe you, most so when they see you spamming :) to me in #ubuntu-ops
[17:48] <ikonia> which isn't a virus
[17:48] <ikonia> thats you typing it
[17:48] <ikonia> and you sending me messages in private
[17:48] <liveuser> yes that is a REAL virus
[17:48] <ikonia> lets hope they trust you
[17:49] <ikonia> well, lets see what the hangarhosting people say
[17:49] <ikonia> good luck with that
[17:49] <ikonia> bye now
[17:49] <liveuser> before i go i got one more question to u
[17:51] <ikonia> I'm too busy typing my email
[17:51] <ikonia> takes time to pull all the logs together
[17:52] <wiier> hello
[17:52] <ikonia> hi
[17:52] <wiier> how are you today
[17:52] <ikonia> fine
[17:53] <ikonia> busy typing emails
[17:53] <wiier> to who?
[17:53] <ikonia> not your concern
[17:53] <wiier> i already know
[17:53] <ikonia> then why ask ?
[17:53] <wiier> just wanted to know if someone can trust you
[17:53] <ikonia> nope
[17:54] <wiier> im from hangarhosting
[17:54] <ikonia> so ?
[17:54] <ikonia> you're using the same PC as Dragos
[17:54] <wiier> actualy no im just using the same network
[17:55] <ikonia> oh, the mac address looks the same
[17:55] <ikonia> what's you're name
[17:55] <ikonia> your
[17:55] <wiier> do u want to know my name?
[17:55] <ikonia> yes, thats why I just asked
[17:55] <wiier> why?
[17:55] <ikonia> to know who I'm talking to
[17:55] <ikonia> if you don't want to tell me thats fine
[17:55] <wiier> Stefaniu Criste
[17:55] <wiier> founder of hangarhosting
[17:55] <ikonia> I'll add that to the email I send
[17:56] <bazhang> brother of dragos
[17:56] <ikonia> that Dragos is pretending to be someone else
[17:56] <ikonia> that will look good
[17:56] <ikonia> going to take a few hours to pull all this email info together
[17:56] <wiier> why
[17:56] <ikonia> lots of logs showing Dragos has been a problem from 2014 and all todays stuff too
[17:57] <wiier> can u do something for me?
[17:57] <ikonia> no
[17:57] <wiier> why?
[17:57] <ikonia> I don't want to
[17:57] <wiier> why?
[17:59] <wiier> pk
[17:59] <wiier> ok
[18:00] <wiier> ikonia
[18:00] <ikonia> yes ?
[18:00] <wiier> i just tell the hangarhosting dudes the problem
[18:00] <ikonia> don't worry I'll tell them
[18:01] <ikonia> and I'll tell netprojtect.ro who own their IP range that their IP's are being used to cause a problem
[18:03] <wiier> actualy it was my laptop the problem
[18:03] <ikonia> I don't care
[18:03] <wiier> why?
[18:03] <ikonia> you're wasting my time, I'll get back to writing my email
[18:03] <ikonia> bye now
[18:04] <wiier> why are u so mean?
[18:04] <ikonia> nothing mean, you've been a problem for a while now, I've asked you nicely to stop, you continued
[18:04] <wiier> ok i will stop forever
[18:04] <wiier> ok?
[18:04] <wiier> i will never use ubuntu irc anymore
[18:04] <ikonia> you continue to tell lies, rather than just be honest, so I feel no other option but to contact hangarhosting and netproject
[18:05] <ikonia> oh, so you admit you're the same person now ?
[18:05] <wiier> if i will quit using this irc will u stop sending the email?
[18:05] <ikonia> no
[18:05] <wiier> why
[18:05] <ikonia> you still lies
[18:05] <wiier> take a look yourself i will quit ok?
[18:05] <wiier> and never come back\
[18:05] <ikonia> the email is being sent - there is nothing you can do/say to stop that
[18:06] <wiier> why?
[18:06] <ikonia> hangarhosting and netprotect will get a full account and logs of your behaviour and lies
[18:06] <wiier> i will never use irc or stuff like that never i will quit ok?
[18:06] <ikonia> no
[18:06] <wiier> why?
[18:06] <wiier> this is not a lie
[18:06] <ikonia> you can keep saying that, but it won't change anything
[18:06] <wiier> why are u mean?
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[00:09] <yang> idioterna: Trava je štetna, ako nije kvalitetna ! -- Bora Đorđević
[03:59] <jabuk> M 1.1 > 7.km JZ od BIZELJSKEGA @08/11/2015 04:47:59 https://maps.google.com/?q=45.97+N,+15.63+E
[04:52] <jabuk> M 2 > 6.km JZ od HUMINA (GEMONA DEL FRIULI, ITALI @08/11/2015 05:41:12 https://maps.google.com/?q=46.25+N,+13.07+E
[05:40] <zdobbie> my type of POTUS https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTQVA5QW4AAjlTe.jpg
[08:29] <krt57> jutro
[08:33] <krt57> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb9pWk8WXms
[08:33] <Pepelka> How to sweep your patio quickly - YouTube
[08:33] <Pepelka> »I swept the patio this morning. I ran into issues with my broom. My #DJI #Phantom Pro 3 came to help. For licensing and usage, contact [email protected] Fo...«
[08:35] <zdobersek> broom market disrupted
[08:52] <idioterna> yang: ja sej zato bi pa mogla bit na voljo v lekarna
[08:52] <idioterna> h
[08:52] <idioterna> iz kontrolirane pridelave
[08:53] <zdobersek> mogla seveda, ampak tudi morala
[08:53] <idioterna> z öko certifikatom
[08:53] <idioterna> morala ja
[08:57] <zdobersek> and dat tax return
[09:05] <idioterna> kr dobr sign
[09:05] <idioterna> http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/F6AB/production/_86574136_13db8bde-cae0-4b42-9ebe-dd6b9d1f87a4.jpg
[09:08] <zdobersek> Donald, the 2016 Ronald
[09:27] <zdobersek> remember remember this spring-like November
[09:29] <idioterna> ja sej grem v hrib
[09:37] <CrazyLemon> i will remember this november coz it rox
[09:54] <krt57> http://aprs.fi/#!call=a%2FS56CT-4&timerange=3600&tail=3600
[09:54] <Pepelka> Google Maps APRS
[09:55] <krt57> naš Tilen gre na Lisco..
[09:56] <yang> .vreme lj
[09:56] <jabuk> ARSO: Ljubljana (299m): 11.3°C @08.11.2015 9:30 UTC.
[09:56] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 74% vzhodnik 0.3 m/s (1.1 km/h)
[09:56] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 05:53:10, Kulminacija: 10:46:58, Sončni zahod: 15:40:45
[09:56] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 47min 35s, Luna je v ščipu
[09:58] <pitastrudl> jutro
[09:58] <pitastrudl> .vreme koper
[09:58] <jabuk> ARSO: Koper Kapitanija (4m): 17.2°C @08.11.2015 9:30 UTC.
[09:58] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 59% severnik 0.7 m/s (2.5 km/h)
[09:58] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 05:55:05, Kulminacija: 10:50:07, Sončni zahod: 15:45:09
[09:58] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 50min 05s, Luna je v ščipu
[10:06] <CrazyLemon> krt57 a vedno tako sledis tilnu? :D
[10:07] <pitastrudl> lol
[10:16] <CrazyLemon> Žan Doberšek followed
[10:16] <CrazyLemon> 
[10:16] <CrazyLemon> Radio KAOS - ta zan ej..he eats chaos for lunch!
[10:42] <Sky[x]> a tole ste vidl ze?
[10:42] <Sky[x]> http://thehackernews.com/2015/10/radio-wave-phone-hack.html
[10:42] <Pepelka> Hackers Can Use Radio-waves to Control Your Smartphone From 16 Feet Away - The Hacker News
[10:50] <netkat> siri, google now, jst sm sto let za luno kva je to, se morm mal updejtat
[10:57] <CrazyLemon> ja..tole je že old
[10:57] <CrazyLemon> pa siri je bl vulnerable kot google now
[11:06] <krt57> ne danes slučajno, sem gledal film in poslušal postajo, in je nekomu rekel naj pogleda na APRS pa sem še jaz pogledal, in res leze na Lisco
zanimivo, tega nisem vedel, ah ta tehnika, jaz grem na kolo...
[11:32] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: zakvaj mi sledis
[11:32] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek ce lahko sledimo tilnu zakaj ne bi se tebi?
[11:33] <zdobersek> gdo je Tilen?
[11:33] <zdobersek> http://www.24ur.com/novice/crna-kronika/strmoglavilo-ultralahko-letalo-dve-osebi-mrtvi.html
[11:33] <Pepelka> 24ur.com - Strmoglavilo ultralahko letalo, dve osebi mrtvi
[11:33] <Pepelka> »Ultralahko letalo je padlo na območju Slovenskih Konjic. Umrli sta dve osebi, je za 24ur.com potrdila tiskovna predstavnica celjskih policistov Milena Trbulin. Na kraju so preiskovalci. Letalo naj bi letelo iz Dobrneža v smeri Slovenskih Konjic.«
[11:35] <matjaz> a kdo pozna kak lahek način, kako kopirat text iz tmuxa in ga prilepit v recimo, Firefox?
[11:45] <netkat> jst oznacm in pol srednji klik z misko pastam, al kaj te matra matjaz
[11:46] <matjaz> matra me ta ločenost PRIMARY in CLIPBOARD yankanja
[11:47] <matjaz> z miško gre, rad bi to brez nje
[11:47] <CrazyLemon> shift + insert ?
[11:47] <matjaz> nek simpl način ne da se vedno motim
[11:47] <CrazyLemon> ctrl shift v ?
[11:48] <anny_> Se tole mašino splog
[11:48] <anny_> Sploh splača popravljati?
[11:49] <anny_> https://www.anony.ws/image/Jnwn
[11:49] <Pepelka> - Anony.ws
[11:49] <Pepelka> »Image hosted in Anony.ws«
[11:50] <netkat> matjaz http://jasonwryan.com/blog/2011/06/07/copy-and-paste-in-tmux/ ? probam se jaz ce gre
[11:50] <Pepelka> Copy & Paste in tmux - jasonwryan.com
[11:50] <Pepelka> »I’ve posted a couple of times1 abouttmux, the brilliantterminal mutliplexer. One question I see raised a lot in #tmux is howto copy and paste. …«
[11:51] <matjaz> YES
[11:52] <matjaz> tnx netkat, zaenkrat dela
[11:54] <matjaz> sam, za copy/pastat znotraj tmuxa je zdaj v redu, za v X bo pa treba še pogruntat
[11:54] <matjaz> :)
[11:56] <matjaz> oz. nekaj bindat na "tmux show-buffer | xclip -selection clipboard"
[12:12] <matjaz> bind P run-shell "tmux show-buffer | xclip -selection clipboard"
[12:12] <matjaz> success
[12:14] <zdobersek> 'tis the linux desktop
[12:20] <idioterna> o
[12:20] <anny_> O
[12:20] <idioterna> upam da ste kje zunej
[12:20] <idioterna> nad inverzijo
[12:20] <anny_> Gre kdo na Tedx?
[12:21] <anny_> Tukaj je soooonce!
[12:21] <CrazyLemon> tudi pod inverzijo je lepo!
[12:21] <idioterna> tle je tut
[12:21] <anny_> No viš
[12:22] <anny_> Perem cote od celega tedna
[12:23] <anny_> Oh glorious day...
[12:25] <idioterna> hm
[12:25] <idioterna> ja upam da ti kdo pomaga
[12:25] <idioterna> jsm pa psa peljal zdele
[12:25] <idioterna> https://bou.si/pic/inverzija-z-debnga-triglav.jpg
[12:25] <idioterna> https://bou.si/pic/inverzija-z-debnga-krim.jpg
[12:25] <idioterna> https://bou.si/pic/inverzija-z-debnga.jpg
[12:26] <idioterna> no pa se od cetrtka al kdaj sm bil na javoru
[12:26] <idioterna> https://bou.si/pic/brokeback-javor-summit.jpg
[12:26] <idioterna> https://bou.si/pic/brokeback-javor-village-colors.jpg
[12:26] <anny_> Pomaga...pralni stroj! Tanarbolš prjatu.
[12:26] <idioterna> https://bou.si/pic/brokeback-javor-bends-2.jpg
[12:26] <idioterna> vsaj en
[12:27] <idioterna> jsm tut ze dva dons opral
[12:27] <idioterna> se eno kosaro otroskih cunj zlozim, pol grem pa s kolesom
[12:27] <idioterna> pa kosiu si morm skuhat
[12:27] <idioterna> otroc so sli s suni na slivnco
[12:27] <anny_> Z večino moških si danes lahko zelo malo pomagaš
[12:27] <idioterna> mene pa prevec hrbet boli k sm se prehladu v kriz
[12:28] <idioterna> sm spal pr odprtem oknu z ritjo izpod kovtra
[12:28] <anny_> Ufff...ne se hecat
[12:28] <idioterna> ma
[12:28] <idioterna> nism zanalasc
[12:28] <anny_> Si že čez kristusova leta
[12:28] <idioterna> fajn sva se presvicala pol pa kr zaspala
[12:28] <idioterna> itak da ni blo fino
[12:28] <idioterna> ko sm se zjutri zbudu
[12:29] <anny_> Zapri okno pred sexom
[12:29] <idioterna> si bom poskusu zapomnt
[12:29] <anny_> Pravilo št. 1
[12:29] <CrazyLemon> zapri okno PO sexu! te vsaj kriz ne bo bolel!
[12:29] <idioterna> pol pa sosedje nimajo nc od tega
[12:29] <anny_> Sploh če je zima
[12:29] <idioterna> ce vnaprej zapres mislm
[12:29] <idioterna> ma sej bomo pogruntal ksno to
[12:29] <idioterna> pametno napravo
[12:29] <anny_> Sosedje imajo miljontavžent porn kanalov
[12:29] <idioterna> k bo okn zaprla ce bo vidla da je kdo odkrit
[12:30] <idioterna> majo ja
[12:30] <idioterna> pa debeli so tut :)
[12:30] <anny_> CrazyLemon, ti pa ne sexaš pogosto?
[12:31] <anny_> Sicer bi vedel, da se ti po strastem valjanju nič več ne ljubi
[12:31] <zdobbie> .yt cricket sounds
[12:31] <jabuk> Sleep and Relaxation Nature Sounds, Crickets Summer Night - Sleep Music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKmRkS1os7k
[12:31] <anny_> Tko da..zapret prej...čist strateško
[12:33] <anny_> idioterna, v čem je problem, da so sosedje debeli?
[12:33] <anny_> Ali je v tem prednost?
[12:33] <idioterna> aja jah
[12:33] <idioterna> predvidevam da je veliko lazje porn gledat kot seksat, ce si debel
[12:48] <yang> anny_: niso mi odobrili karte za TEDx, sicer pa imam za danes popoldan nekaj drugega v planu
[12:49] <idioterna> kje pa je tedx
[12:49] <yang> CD
[12:49] <yang> Sej so bolj levi speakerji
[12:50] <idioterna> levi so kul
[12:50] <idioterna> ce bi bli desni pa res ne bi hotu jit
[13:01] <netkat> forza valeeee:D
[13:03] <anny_> Levi kot levi, ne levi
[13:05] <anny_> yang...balada o lisici in kislem grozdju?
[13:12] <idioterna> ja js upam da so sinister
[13:12] <idioterna> a si vidla anny_
[13:12] <idioterna> se eno bitko smo zgubil
[13:12] <idioterna> za gender equality
[13:13] <idioterna> 13:57< PIPI> lihkar je bla na a-kanalu reklama za kinder jajčka
[13:13] <idioterna> 13:58< PIPI> da majo zej posebno linijo za punčke
[13:15] <idioterna> pa sm ji celo nedeljo pokvaru :\
[13:16] <pitastrudl> rip
[13:18] <netkat> ja ma majo menda mini ponije v tej liniji
[13:22] <pitastrudl> ares,topkek
[13:58] <CrazyLemon> mini poniji ftw
[14:07] <pitastrudl> CrazyLemon: ikr
[14:08] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl no you dont!
[14:09] <pitastrudl> CrazyLemon: yes i do
[14:09] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl you do what?
[14:09] <pitastrudl> fak, kdaj bo že pc pršu, suka bljed
[14:09] <pitastrudl> i blame u zdobersek
[14:09] <pitastrudl> CrazyLemon: that the sky is potato
[14:09] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl the sky is THE heaven
[14:10] <pitastrudl> POTATOES
[14:10] <CrazyLemon> skies?
[14:10] <CrazyLemon> anyway..entertain me 8 min
[14:10] <CrazyLemon> pol grem gledat tvin
[14:10] <pitastrudl> hm
[14:10] <pitastrudl> CrazyLemon: a mi nardiš kej za jest
[14:10] <pitastrudl> prosim
[14:10] <pitastrudl> :-D
[14:11] <pitastrudl> neki z mesom
[14:11] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl lih sm jedu
[14:11] <pitastrudl> kaj si jedu
[14:11] <CrazyLemon> tko da ne
[14:11] <pitastrudl> tell me
[14:11] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl postrv
[14:11] <pitastrudl> nice
[14:11] <pitastrudl> kaj za zraven?
[14:11] <pitastrudl> predjed?
[14:11] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl juha
[14:11] <pitastrudl> nice
[14:11] <pitastrudl> katera pa
[14:11] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl sej si tam v olmi
[14:11] <CrazyLemon> badaševico imaš zravn
[14:11] <pitastrudl> haha
[14:11] <CrazyLemon> :>
[14:11] <pitastrudl> ja, nakonc bom pa na trnk ujel neko noro limono
[14:11] <pitastrudl> :>
[14:11] <CrazyLemon> no joke..vidu sm folk s palico tam kjer je mini marina/dock
[14:12] <CrazyLemon> tam bližje morju
[14:12] <pitastrudl> lol
[14:12] <pitastrudl> ja sej sm vidu dostkrat folk k ribari pr badaševici
[14:12] <pitastrudl> kaj a so tam ribe al ma folk preveč cajta
[14:12] <pitastrudl> al kaj je fora
[14:12] <CrazyLemon> nutrije so notri
[14:12] <CrazyLemon> :p
[14:12] <pitastrudl> rip
[14:17] <idioterna> sej nutrije so fajn
[14:22] <idioterna> podgana je en mini snack, iz nutrije pa lahko golaz za celo familijo nardis
[14:25] <pitastrudl> http://i.imgur.com/NjqCX.png
[15:12] <zdobersek> and I blame you pikachu
[15:12] <pitastrudl> kek
[15:13] <zdobersek> I got memes for days, boys!
[15:13] <pitastrudl> OMG PLS SHARE
[16:03] <CrazyLemon> kak predlog za 'music sets' ?
[16:03] <CrazyLemon> a je to zbirka?
[16:05] <zdobersek> !g en sl music set
[16:05] <Pepelka> Streaming Music - Second Life Wiki http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Streaming_Music
[16:05] <zdobersek> !t en sl music set
[16:05] <Pepelka> glasbeni set
[16:05] <CrazyLemon> right
[16:06] <CrazyLemon> zbirka it is! kdo sploh uporablja rhythmbox anyway
[16:20] <zdobersek> rightright
[16:43] <netkat> evo zdobersek meme skripto http://sprunge.us/ECbi
[16:43] <netkat> sam zdej bi jo blo treba se nafilat
[16:50] <CrazyLemon> !g insurgency always show compass
[16:50] <Pepelka> How to toggle/always show compass? :: Insurgency Questions https://steamcommunity.com/app/222880/discussions/3/523897653312587504/
[16:50] <idioterna> mhm
[16:50] <idioterna> js mam tut tko
[16:50] <idioterna> mislm
[16:51] <idioterna> tko mam da k gledam skoz sight
[16:51] <idioterna> skos vidm kompas
[16:51] <CrazyLemon> tudi 'T' je uporaben
[16:52] <idioterna> t?
[16:52] <idioterna> kva je pa to
[16:59] <CrazyLemon> ko ti pokaže razdaljo do checkpointa
[16:59] <CrazyLemon> pa eno zeleno piko ter razdaljo do teammateov
[16:59] <idioterna> aha
[16:59] <CrazyLemon> no pa tudi označi checkpoint
[16:59] <idioterna> dunno, js se bl s strelajnem ukvarjam
[16:59] <idioterna> aja pa ce gres spilat
[17:00] <idioterna> mumble instaliri
[17:00] <CrazyLemon> vedno je fajn vedet ker je tvoj teamm8 :D
[17:00] <idioterna> pa mumble.hehe.si, pass hehe
[17:00] <CrazyLemon> kaj je mumble?
[17:00] <idioterna> open sauce teamspeak
[17:00] <idioterna> apt-get install mumble
[17:00] <idioterna> pa pol audio wizard
[17:01] <CrazyLemon> a ne dela pogovor znotraj same igre?
[17:01] <idioterna> ja sam ne podpira speech activated
[17:01] <idioterna> pol mors pa prtiskat
[17:01] <idioterna> pa predvsem smo vsi ostali na mumblu in nas ne bos slisu
[17:01] <idioterna> in bo pol manj zabavn
[17:04] <idioterna> no sej ce sm iskren je mumble v glavnm za smejanje k kej uibr zaserjemo
[17:08] <CrazyLemon> idioterna pri mumble moram kaj posebnega naštimat?
[17:08] <idioterna> ne
[17:08] <idioterna> sam audio wizard pejt nardit
[17:08] <CrazyLemon> opazil sem da audio pri igri je obupen/so motnje
[17:08] <idioterna> pa na mumble.hehe.si, pass hehe
[17:08] <CrazyLemon> če pustim enable positional audio
[17:08] <idioterna> aja ne ne
[17:08] <idioterna> izklopi to
[17:08] <idioterna> sm mislu da je po defaultu izklopljen
[17:08] <idioterna> sam zgleda da ni
[17:09] <CrazyLemon> 50 ms latency?
[17:09] <idioterna> ne vem js mam default
[17:09] <idioterna> sej je vseen really
[17:10] <idioterna> dej konekti pa sprobamo
[17:11] <idioterna> CrazyLemon:
[17:11] <CrazyLemon> idioterna čakaj še vedno audio wizard - testiram mic
[17:11] <idioterna> ok
[17:14] <CrazyLemon> kaj je ta zadeva s certifikatom?
[17:14] <idioterna> nc, generiras pa pol mas
[17:14] <idioterna> ni se treba sekirat
[17:14] <idioterna> next klikas :)
[17:14] <CrazyLemon> username za mumble?
[17:14] <CrazyLemon> tvoj mumble?
[17:14] <idioterna> zmisls si
[17:14] <idioterna> server pass je hehe
[17:14] <idioterna> sam to je vazn
[17:15] <idioterna> ostalo mal po svoje vtipkas
[17:15] <CrazyLemon> i'm in
[17:16] <idioterna> a sliss kje
[17:16] <idioterna> kej
[17:21] <idioterna> aja pa se na taprav kanal se moras potem odvlect v mumble ko bomo sli
[17:21] <idioterna> k vec iger hkrati laufa
[17:22] <CrazyLemon> no boš potem povedal kako to storim :)
[17:22] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny zdobbie a vidva bosta tudi šla na insurgency?
[17:22] <zdobbie> kolk je DL?
[17:22] <CrazyLemon> ~4gb
[17:22] <zdobbie> lulz
[17:22] <idioterna> huge je ja
[17:23] <idioterna> no CrazyLemon
[17:23] <CrazyLemon> v primerjavi s tf2 je to malo nič!
[17:23] <idioterna> 18:19< LosGringo> Isurgencz cez 15min? [;
[17:23] <CrazyLemon> idioterna ok..enkrat po 18:30 torej
[17:23] <idioterna> ja
[17:25] <CrazyLemon> super + d je kul tipka za mute
[17:26] <CrazyLemon> shortcut*
[17:28] <zdobbie> f2p?
[17:29] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie ne?
[17:29] <CrazyLemon> skoraj no
[17:29] <CrazyLemon> na humble imaš
[17:29] <CrazyLemon> tko da vsaj $1
[17:31] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: ziher si four-pack kupu
[17:31] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie zal ne :(
[17:31] <CrazyLemon> pa insurgency ni bil v 4packu
[17:34] <zdobbie> 50min
[17:34] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie zrihtaj mumble v tem času
[17:35] <zdobbie> kaj kruca je pa mumble
[17:35] <CrazyLemon> opensource teamspeak!
[17:35] <zdobbie> oy vey
[17:43] <idioterna> CrazyLemon: si nasu game?
[17:45] <CrazyLemon> idioterna kater mumble kanal? fantasie?
[17:46] <msev-> fantje http://www.lucadentella.it/en/2014/08/01/interruttore-a-tre-posizioni-e-arduino/ kle v tej kodi actualState opisuje stanje v katerem je trenutno stikalo ane? tko da lahko vežem kj na to stanje ane
[17:46] <Pepelka> lucadentella.it – 3-way switch and Arduino
[17:46] <CrazyLemon> idioterna pa na udba sm sam očitno
[17:55] <idioterna> CrazyLemon: js grem not zdej
[17:55] <idioterna> mlecn riz sm mogu dt kuhat
[17:55] <idioterna> CrazyLemon: dej se u feindesland
[17:55] <idioterna> kanal
[17:55] <idioterna> odpri mumble, klikn na ikonco v trayu
[17:55] <idioterna> pa se dragej not
[17:58] <idioterna> CrazyLemon: smo not
[18:22] <zdobbie> kje zdej ste/niste
[18:25] <idioterna> ja
[18:25] <idioterna> na udba.org smo
[18:25] <idioterna> pass je hehe
[18:25] <idioterna> mumble.hehe.si, pass hehe
[18:25] <idioterna> je pa mumble
[18:25] <idioterna> zdobbie:
[18:30] <zdobbie> sam tutorial dam skoz
[18:30] <idioterna> zdobbie: no need po moje
[18:30] <idioterna> ti loh sprot razlozimo
[18:31] <Sky[x]> lp
[18:31] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie kak tutorial
[18:31] <CrazyLemon> en bit pussy
[18:31] <CrazyLemon> ne*
[18:45] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie welcome \o/
[18:50] <idioterna> zdobbie: ulet, rabmo okrepitve
[18:52] <CrazyLemon> a ni zdobbie tetetri?
[18:52] <idioterna> ne
[18:53] <CrazyLemon> ups
[18:54] <CrazyLemon> no zdobbie a bo
[18:57] <zdobbie> push-to-talk -- kter binding?
[18:58] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie noben
[18:59] <CrazyLemon> mislim..kot zelis
[18:59] <CrazyLemon> js nimam tega
[19:00] <pitastrudl> caps lock
[19:00] <pitastrudl> al mouse4/5
[19:09] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie no steam login? wth :)
[19:15] <pitastrudl> wat
[19:17] <CrazyLemon> a pride se kdo?
[19:17] <idioterna> grozn
[19:19] <pitastrudl> pride kam kdo
[19:19] <pitastrudl> aja mumble
[19:19] <pitastrudl> cant now
[19:19] <pitastrudl> si bom dou pod fav
[19:19] <pitastrudl> :P
[19:31] <idioterna> pitastrudl: ja ne
[19:31] <idioterna> u insurgency
[19:31] <pitastrudl> aja to pa nimam tut
[19:31] <pitastrudl> rip
[20:00] <jabuk> M 1.5 > 5.km S od ORMOŽA @08/11/2015 20:49:19 https://maps.google.com/?q=46.45+N,+16.16+E
[21:02] <CrazyLemon> zdobbies connection sux
[21:02] <CrazyLemon> just FYI
[21:05] <pitastrudl> i see
[21:05] <pitastrudl> topkek
[22:06] <zdobbie_> twas fun
[22:06] <CrazyLemon> yup..gg
[22:06] <idioterna> grozn
[22:06] <idioterna> so much death
[22:06] <idioterna> and for what
[22:06] <idioterna> a little fun?
[22:07] <zdobbie_> e-death
[22:08] <idioterna> sounds at least as real as e-peen
[22:09] <CrazyLemon> and as dangerous as e-cigarette
[22:09] <idioterna> mhm
[22:15] <zdobbie_> ln
[22:21] <CrazyLemon> http://www.bin.sh/rtlf.html
[22:21] <Pepelka> the demonweb; real-time location finder
[22:24] <idioterna> kr presvican sm
[22:24] <idioterna> od smejanja i guess
[22:25] <CrazyLemon> a tko intense dozivetje je bilo? :D
[22:29] <idioterna> sej je vedno
[22:29] <idioterna> ce smo hlodi
[22:31] <CrazyLemon> ma niti ne.. sm igral po public strežnikih teh nekaj dni pa niso kaj dosti boljši
[22:31] <CrazyLemon> tist pvp mode je pa druga zgodba..tam sam spawnaš pa si že mrtev
[23:09] <jabuk> M 1.2 > 8.km SZ od ZAGREBA (HRVAŠKA) @08/11/2015 23:58:57 https://maps.google.com/?q=45.87+N,+15.93+E
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.918494
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-africa
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[16:32] <Kilos> QA seen stickyboy
[16:32] <QA> Kilos: stickyboy was last seen 1 month, 10 days, 19 hours, 18 minutes and 34 seconds ago in #ubuntu-africa on freenode [2015-09-28 21:15:06 UTC], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-11-05 02:39:17 UTC
[19:40] * QA going down for a reboot... wbb in a jiffy
[19:41] <craigbrash> Ripe Atlas probe installed
[19:44] <inetpro> hello craigbrash
[19:53] <elacheche> craigbrash: YaaaaY!!
[19:54] <elacheche> where are you from craigbrash !
[19:54] <elacheche> o/ @ *
[19:59] <craigbrash> Hi elacheche , inetpro Zimbabwe Harare
[20:00] <elacheche> Great craigbrash :)
[20:03] <elacheche> craigbrash: My 2 probes → https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/?search=elacheche&status=&af=&country=TN
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.924634
| 2015-11-08T00:00:00 |
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"Kilos",
"QA",
"craigbrash",
"elacheche",
"inetpro"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-africa"
}
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-us-fl
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[12:59] <jokersbox76> good morning
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.926272
| 2015-11-08T00:00:00 |
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"jokersbox76"
],
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}
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2015-11-08-#juju-dev
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[04:39] <mup> Bug #1491226 changed: juju status hangs at 'connection established to' until jujud-machine-0 restarted <api> <juju-core:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1491226>
[20:26] <menn0> thumper: I still need a ship it on this: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3075/diff/
[20:26] <menn0> you've reviewed most of it already, it's the symlink setting parts that are new
[20:27] <thumper> k
[20:35] * thumper has to run out for a bit
[20:35] <thumper> bbl
[21:19] <thumper> back
[21:30] <menn0> thumper: the PRs that http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3075/diff/# depends on have landed. I just need a ship it for it now.
[21:30] <thumper> k
[23:10] <davecheney> wow
[23:10] <davecheney> charm.v6-unstable contains a copy of charm.v4
[23:20] <davecheney> god damnit
[23:20] <davecheney> my ibm password has expired again
[23:20] <davecheney> they issued it over the weekend
[23:20] <davecheney> and it's alread expired
[23:41] <davecheney> thumper: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/3671/files#diff-2f723729fea9cfb2d2969e45da24fcdbR20
[23:41] <davecheney> the number of unwritten assumptions on this simple function is quite large
[23:41] <davecheney> https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/3671/files#diff-2f723729fea9cfb2d2969e45da24fcdbR62
[23:41] <davecheney> ^ don't wrap here, 'cos the caller is checking for a magic value
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.928786
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"davecheney",
"menn0",
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-au
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[07:44] <spug> Can I use NetManager within an initramfs ? I'm trying to boot a wireless iscsi root disk. When I use mkinitramfs I don't see any signs of NetManager.
[08:29] <jea> I haven't had much experience with that sorry
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.930530
| 2015-11-08T00:00:00 |
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"jea",
"spug"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-au"
}
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-touch
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[00:27] <Hairo> hi
[00:27] <Hairo> can i use pip on ubuntu touch?
[03:53] <phigface> Hello, gentlemen.
[03:57] <phigface> How do you add convergence stuff to Ubuntu touch on Nexus devices?
[03:57] <phigface> Like nexus 4 and nexus 7
[03:58] <phigface> I tried the div-proposed and rc-proposed branches on the nexus 4
[03:58] <Hairo> i'm having wifi issues the nexus 4
[03:58] <Hairo> can't connect to the network
[03:58] <phigface> And maybe I don't have the right adapter, but I tried an MHL one
[03:58] <phigface> Which branch?
[03:59] <Hairo> stable
[03:59] <phigface> I had no issues with WiFi but Bluetooth didn't work
[03:59] <phigface> Have not tried stable because I wanted convergence :)
[04:00] <phigface> Is it supposed to just be there, I wonder, or do you have to do something to add it..
[04:01] <phigface> Hairdo try rc or rc-proposed
[04:01] <phigface> Sorry, autocorrect
[04:02] <Hairo> bt seems to work
[04:05] <phigface> Do you have an hemi adapter for yours?
[04:06] <phigface> Hemi
[04:06] <phigface> HDMI
[04:06] <phigface> Stupid wanders
[04:06] <phigface> Haha
[04:06] <Hairo> no
[05:42] <nhaines> phunyguy: Nexus 4 and 7 don't support MHL. You have to use a Slimport adapter.
[05:43] <phunyguy> nhaines: rofl. Don't drink and IRC
[14:30] <hondas> hello guys
[14:30] <hondas> i want to install ubuntu phone on huawei g play mini
[14:31] <hondas> is it posible
[14:36] <hondas> i want to install ubuntu phone on huawei g play mini is it posible ?
[14:37] <popey> !devices | hondas
[15:37] <Hairo> mmm, anyone else having wifi issues with the nexus 4?
[15:41] <Hairo> no mobile data either
[16:51] <Hairo> anyone?
[16:57] <mimecar> Hairo, yes
[16:58] <mimecar> Although I do not have a Nexus 4
[16:59] <mimecar> I had not seen your previous messages
[16:59] <Hairo> can't connect to an wifi network at all
[17:01] <Hairo> it doesn't do anything after typing the password
[17:01] <Hairo> and asks for it again after a few seconds
[17:01] <Hairo> then nothing
[17:04] <Hairo> tried various channels too (stable, rc, rc-proposed)
[17:07] <popey> what type of wifi network?
[17:07] <popey> I have a nexus 4 and it's connected to wifi here
[17:08] <Hairo> WEP
[17:08] <Hairo> also tried with an open one with my other phone
[17:08] <Hairo> hotspot
[17:12] <Hairo> tried using the 4.3 radio too
[17:12] <Hairo> some threads in xda suggested that
[17:45] <Hairo> mm, seems like WEP is the issue
[17:46] <Hairo> wpa2 works
[17:49] <NeedInfos> hi guys
[17:57] <Hairo> yeah, WEP edifinety doesn't work, where do i report this?
[17:57] <Hairo> *definitely
[20:26] <vthompson> Is there anyone around that can get silo 9 to rebuild media-hub and qtubuntu-media? https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/571
[20:26] <vthompson> I'd ask jhodapp, but he's not around at the moment
[20:50] <ahayzen> vthompson, maybe ask in -ci-eng ?
[20:55] <taiebot> I hope silo 10 will land for OTA-8 could possibly fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/1462664 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1480877 tested it today and made a big difference to my daily experience
[20:59] <mcphail> taiebot: nice to see there's still work going on. I'd hoped it was going to be fixed in OTA7
[21:00] <taiebot> mcphail a fix was there but it turned out it was not the right one..
[21:00] <mcphail> yes. Made things a bit better, but not quite enough to be usable
[21:01] <taiebot> mcphail with silo 10 i finally have a "normal" phone experience see https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1480877/comments/64
[21:02] <mcphail> taiebot: Brilliant! Is it due to land for OTA8?
[21:03] <taiebot> mcphail i do not know if it is supposed to land i will try to make sure it does
[21:04] <mcphail> That would be great
[22:54] <Jpastore> Hi, how do I see a newly installed scope?
[23:22] <BogdanDev> swipe up, you should see a list of scopes
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.935630
| 2015-11-08T00:00:00 |
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"Hairo",
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"nhaines",
"phigface",
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"popey",
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-ko
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[04:39] <autowiz> 냠냠냠
[05:32] <commania> 어...
[05:33] <commania> 잠시 접속이 뜸했던 사이에 불미스러운 일이 있었네요
[05:33] <autowiz> 한글입력기 얘기하시는걸까요?
[05:37] <autowiz> 아아악
[05:51] <HolyKnight> 한미약품
[05:51] <HolyKnight> 부럽네유
[05:57] <jason__> me 2, 지금이라도 그 사 주식에 투자를 한다면?
[05:59] <autowiz> 한미가 어떻게 됐데요?
[06:03] <HolyKnight> 한미약품
[06:03] <HolyKnight> 5조 수출 계약 성공해서
[06:03] <HolyKnight> 그저께 폭증했습니다. 상한가 찍음
[06:04] <HolyKnight> 최근 35만 정도에서 70만 넘게 오르는 중
[06:04] <HolyKnight> 2개월만에 2배...
[06:04] <autowiz> 그런일이 있었군요 ㅎㅎ
[06:05] <autowiz> 저는 제 몸값을 두배로 올려보도록 하겠습니다~ ㅋㅋ
[06:05] <HolyKnight> 제약업계 역대 최고 수출액이래유
[06:05] <HolyKnight> 덕분에
[06:05] <HolyKnight> 7명의 어린애들이 천억대 부자가 되었다고 하네유
[06:06] <HolyKnight> 한미약품의 손주들..
[06:38] <commania> 네... 한글입력기랑 q2a 사건이요
[06:46] <commania> 공지를 봤는데...
[08:13] <ipeter> 안녕하세요
[08:29] <autowiz> 공지에는 나와있는지모르겠는데
[08:30] <autowiz> 다솜입력기는 개인개발에서 팀개발로 거듭나면서 좀더 체계를 잡고 진행될거 같습니다. 한글입력도 다시 포함한다고 하구요
[13:03] <autowiz> 결국 유혹을 참지못하고 동대문엽기떡볶이 시켜서 먹는중입니다 ㅋㅋ
[13:03] <autowiz> 매콤하니 포테토님 생각이 많이 나네요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[13:26] <HolyKnight> 기름떡볶이 먹고 싶네유
[13:32] <jun> 전 기름떡볶이를 먹어본적이 없는데;;;; 어디가야 팔까요..? ㅎㅎㅎ
[13:34] <HolyKnight> 어제 무도에 나온
[13:34] <HolyKnight> 시장이유
[14:03] <jun> 어제 무도 나온시장이요..???음/// 제가 어제 무도를 못봐서리;;;
[14:03] <jun> 지금 다운받아봐야겠네요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[14:27] <HolyKnight> 보지말고
[14:27] <HolyKnight> 키워드로 검색하면
[14:27] <HolyKnight> 시장이름 나올것같아유.
[14:27] <DarkCircle> 가서 먹어보고 판단하는게 더 빠르긴 함 ㅋㅋ
[14:27] <DarkCircle> 남들은 맛있다고 그러는데 내가 가서 맛없으면
[14:27] <DarkCircle> ㄱ-
[14:27] <DarkCircle> ...
[14:27] <HolyKnight> ㅋㅋ
[14:30] <jun> 제가 어지간히 입이 까다로워서...ㅎㅎㅎ
[14:30] <jun> 흙도 퍼먹고 맛있다고 할정도로... 입이 까다로워요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[14:42] <HolyKnight> @tdd__89: 우리 언니가 임신중인데 아침 만원전철에서 남고생한테 자리를 양보 받았대.고마워하는데 남자애가"기억하지 못할거라 생각하지만 제가 초등학생일때 매일 같은역에서 당신에게 좌석을 양보받았습니다.이번에는 제 차례입니다."라고
[14:42] <HolyKnight> 말했대.대단해~우와…대단해.만화냐.
[14:56] <autowiz> 조작된 기억이 아닐지 ... ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
[15:10] <HolyKnight> ㅋㅋ
[15:11] <jun> 오우~ 그 초딩은... 중2병의 조짐이 좀 보이네요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[15:19] <HolyKnight> ㅋㅋ
[15:29] <jun> 한국은 이제 공식적으로 월요일이네요..;;;
[15:39] <HolyKnight> ㅋㅋ
[23:44] <autowiz> 좋은 하루들 되세요~~
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.954331
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2015-11-08-#lubuntu
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[02:32] <sakang> glad to see lxqt 0.10 is slowly coming in the main repo for xenial
[11:53] <Langley> Is there anything to do against tearing other than installing the AMD driver?
[21:39] <doMynation> Good evening
[21:39] <doMynation> My touchpad ceased to work and I don't know why. I don't know if this has anything to do with the software updater not being caab
[21:40] <doMynation> capable to finish the update, but it's annoying. I don't even know how to open the start menu to reboot using the keyboard. Can anyone point me in the rifht direction please ?
[22:00] <ianorlin> alt f1 will open the start menu
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.957265
| 2015-11-08T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-pl
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[16:53] <plus10> Siema
[16:55] <qermit> o/
[16:56] <Dread> co tu sie
[16:58] <uh> mam pytanie. Jak ogarnac adobeflash 11.4+?
[16:59] <Dread> wywalić.
[16:59] <uh> mam 11.2 a zonie do jakis gier potrzeba 11.4
[17:00] <plus10> Dread: apt-get purge?
[17:00] <Dread> oh, zapomniałem co to za kanał.
[17:02] <Dread> wywal flashplugin-installer, zainstaluj jeszcze raz
[17:02] <Dread> powinno Ci zaciągnąć nowego flash playera.
[17:03] <plus10> niema 11.4+ dla linuksa
[17:03] <plus10> 11.2 i tyle
[17:03] <qermit> A Windowsa nie ma?
[17:05] <Dread> to niech sobie google chrome zassie
[17:05] <Dread> i używa pepper flasha
[17:05] <Dread> pewnie będzie w nowszej wersji ;p
[17:05] <plus10> no tak
[17:05] <plus10> tam masz jak na winblowsa
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.962589
| 2015-11-08T00:00:00 |
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"plus10",
"qermit",
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-kernel
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[14:28] <luc4> Hello! I read that before reporting bugs to the kernel I should test the lastest mainline kernel. So should I install 4.3 from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/? Is this correct?
[14:40] <TJ-> luc4: Correct
[14:40] <luc4> TJ-: thanks
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.963772
| 2015-11-08T00:00:00 |
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"TJ-",
"luc4"
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2015-11-08-#lubuntu-devel
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[17:22] <phillw> flexiondotorg: ping re: setting up fs on pi2
[18:26] <ianorlin> wxl alternates are not building from the 4th
[19:03] <krytarik> ianorlin, wxl: Ftm, http://paste.openstack.org/show/mZXdp4gvR0pia0SuGZsY/
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.964712
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"ianorlin",
"krytarik",
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu+1
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[00:09] <Fudge> anyone had luck booting a daily image
[10:09] <lotus|xenial> i need to test 4.3 kernel on my xenial box
[10:09] <lotus|xenial> but got an error on adding kernel
[10:11] <lotus|xenial> it says dpkg: error on archive --install
[10:11] <lotus|xenial> after trying sudo dpkg -i linux-headers-4.3.0-040300-generic_4.3.0-040300.201511020846_amd64.deb
[10:39] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:39] <lotus|xenial> hey lordievader
[10:40] <lordievader> Hey lotus|xenial, how are you doing?
[10:40] <lotus|xenial> fine tnx
[10:41] <lordievader> :)
[12:41] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[15:53] * penguin42 returns from Xenial
[16:24] <penguin42> can someone try dmesg |grep ifup - I see two segfaults
[16:33] <clivejo> penguin42: running Kubuntu 16.04(xenial) and tried "dmesg |grep ifup" nothing here
[16:33] <penguin42> hmm
[16:34] <penguin42> clivejo: I think it's bug 13196209 that I'm hitting
[16:34] <penguin42> oops
[16:34] <penguin42> I mean bug 1416793
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.967076
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"Fudge",
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"penguin42"
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"channel": "#ubuntu+1"
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-irc
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[04:27] <sethj> nhandler, thanks for setting up my cloak!
[04:27] <sethj> I wasn't added to the launchpad team however.. Not sure if that was intentional or an oversight.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.968559
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"sethj"
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-l10n-es
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[14:17] <MrTulias> buenas
[14:32] <MrTulias> !ping elopio
[14:33] <MrTulias> Traduciendo esta frase https://translations.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs/xenial/+pots/contributor-docs/es/1/+translate se me ocurre «Contribuyentes de la documentación de Xubuntu», pero me suena raro... ¿Se le ocurre algo mejor?
[14:41] <MrTulias> Otra duda. Cuando aparecen traducciones de imágenes... ¿Se pega y se da como válida? https://translations.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs/xenial/+pots/desktop-guide/es/+translate?show=untranslated
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.973098
| 2015-11-08T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-08-#ubuntustudio
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[09:55] <Guest52724> G'Day I just installed the ubuntustudio 14.04.3 lts version to check it out and I can't update due to /boot being 384k too small. Do I need to repartition this drive?
[10:00] <Guest52724> *G'Day I just installed ubuntustudio
[10:01] <Guest52724> 14.04.3lts version
[10:01] <Guest52724> but the software updater isn't working as /boot is 384k too small
[10:02] <Guest52724> I ran sudo apt-get clean and that didn't fix it
[10:02] <Guest52724> I also rebooted but no luck
[10:03] <Guest52724> I just changed the repository from local to main and that didn't fix it
[10:04] <Guest52724> this is a fresh install and I don't have anything in the trash
[10:16] <SentientSight> G'Day All
[15:27] <William__> hey
[19:27] <schnitz> Hi... never got a real answer from ubuntu chat, well I love ubuntu studio but I've had soooo many problems just getting a decent screen resolution and rate, I'm kinda frustrated now
[19:28] <schnitz> Using different AMD grafics card
[19:28] <schnitz> HD5000 Series and an R7 200 series... so Radeon all in all
[19:28] <schnitz> currently running 640x480 :-)
[19:29] <schnitz> Dunno, since all the time I've been using Ustudio, it seems to really hate all my grafic card and constantly kicks out drivers and messes up setting
[19:30] <schnitz> xrandr doesn't work for me, I tried many things but somehow I never really understood how you can successfully override settings
[19:56] <slumber> hello
[21:35] <schnitz> Ok , Just updated to 15.10
[21:35] <schnitz> but now Audacity opens with exceptions
[21:35] <schnitz> so I d/l latest version (2.10)
[21:36] <schnitz> stupid question
[21:36] <schnitz> how do I get the downloaded tar.gz ontop the current installed audactiy (2.06)?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.977161
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-tw
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[06:08] * wike slaps cibs around a bit with a large fishbot
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.977851
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"authors": [
"wike"
],
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-news
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[19:50] <pleia2> pretty lean on summaries so far, anyone around today to pitch in?
[19:50] <pleia2> I can later, have an appointment soon and then many house things before airplanes again tomorrow night
[23:29] <pleia2> anyone? :)
[23:37] <Na3iL> o/
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.978790
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"Na3iL",
"pleia2"
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-gr
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[09:35] <AyyHello> http://www.pcsteps.gr/1337-7-deadly-commands-for-linux/ Endiaferon...
[09:35] <AyyHello> Kaneis edw?
[09:40] <AyyHello> Oxi?
[09:40] <AyyHello> =.=
[10:19] <xeirwn> thn kalimera mou se olous....
[10:20] <xeirwn> kerato, ?
[11:14] <kerato> hi
[11:14] <kerato> ela ti
[11:19] <xeirwn> to pc pou elega prox8es , kanei pali ta idia, meta thn nea pasta, kanei arketa reboot, alla jsafnika apo ex8es arxise pali sto reboot na douleuei o anemistiras se full strofes , kai na mhn bootarei :(
[11:20] <AyyHello> Pia "nea pasta"?
[11:20] <AyyHello> Xalase o anemisthras?
[11:20] <xeirwn> tou ebala kainourgia thermopasta sthn CPU
[11:20] <AyyHello> Thermopasta = ? Sorry hardware nab here
[11:22] <AyyHello> Den pisteyw pws ayto exei sxesh me Ubuntu, ma allwste pou na rwthseis?
[11:22] <AyyHello> eimai me Ubuntu 15.04 LiveUSB kai thelw na gyrisw sta windows; den kserw pws na balw to iso sto usb mou
[11:24] <xeirwn> den deixnei na exei xalasei o anemisthras, alla deixnei oti me to pou ksekinaei na bootarei pernei entolh oti exei upsilh 8ermokrasia , kai fusika dinei full strofes ston anemistira......alla agkizw tis psuktres , kai einai krues, den ais8anomai 8ermokrasia.
[11:24] <xeirwn> nai AyyHello ,ontws einai ubuntu edw, alla kai edw oi users a xtizoun ta dika tous pc
[11:25] <AyyHello> xeirwn: Kapoio error sto motherboard h kati tetoio?
[11:25] <AyyHello> xeirwn: Endiaferwn..
[11:25] <AyyHello> an kai to chat edw einai nekro
[11:25] <AyyHello> opws ta synithismena LoCo's me countries pou: "Ti ston p-so einai ta Ubuntu?"
[11:26] <xeirwn> AyyHello, gia na guriseis sta windows , apla termatizeis to pc, kai otan bootarei pali, tote mpainei me to kanoniko install OS
[11:26] <AyyHello> =.= TA WINDOWS MOU Einai xalasmena
[11:26] <AyyHello> opws kai ta ubuntu
[11:26] <AyyHello> Barethika ta ubuntu
[11:26] <xeirwn> aahhaaa...dld ?
[11:26] <AyyHello> thelw ta windows
[11:26] <AyyHello> asto
[11:27] <xeirwn> eee tote den exeis para na kaneis kainourgio install sta win.
[11:27] <xeirwn> kai giati bare8ikes ta ubuntu ? :)
[11:27] <AyyHello> Exw spatalhsei 20+ wres ftiaxnontas ta
[11:28] <AyyHello> kai 10+ wres na zhtw bohtheia sto #ubuntu
[11:28] <AyyHello> xeirwn: Nai, prepei na balw iso se usb
[11:28] <AyyHello> kai den kserw pws apo Ubuntu Liveusb
[11:30] <kerato> yparxei ena tool apo commandline
[11:31] <xeirwn> aaaa...einai aplo...katebase to iso arxeio pou 8eleis. phgaine sta downloads sou epanw sto arxeio kai dexi klik, apo to popup menudaki epilegeis open with-->disk image writer
[11:32] <xeirwn> upoti8etai oti exeis sthn usb 8ura idi to stickaki sou mesa
[11:32] <kerato> kai formarismeno se ntfs
[11:32] <kerato> alla ayto de to kanei bootable
[11:32] <kerato> des edw kalytera
[11:32] <kerato> https://askubuntu.com/questions/289559/how-can-i-create-a-windows-bootable-usb-stick-with-ubuntu
[11:32] <xeirwn> kai sou pernaei to sugkekrimeno iso sto stickaki
[11:32] <xeirwn> miso na dw
[11:36] <xeirwn> auto pou sou egrapsa to exeis idi dokimasei ?
[11:36] <AyyHello> Perimene
[11:37] <AyyHello> den einai liveusb
[11:38] <xeirwn> ante afisame to diko mou problhma, kai piasame to diko sou ...pws to kataferes auto ? :-P
[11:40] <xeirwn> auto pou eipes prin me to: 10+ gia boi8eia...me apasxolei ki emena.
[11:41] <xeirwn> to kako einai oti den blepw kai oi upolipoi na kinounte.....kai apousiazoun kai autoi pou mporoun na boi8isoun sta alh8eia :-(
[11:43] <xeirwn> tespa an den ta katafereis AyyHello , empa sto facebook sto https://www.facebook.com/groups/ubuntugr/ kai grapse ekei to problhma sou, nomizw 8a sou apantisoun grigorotera.
[11:45] <AyyHello> den exw fb
[11:45] <AyyHello> kai eimai busy sorry
[11:45] <xeirwn> aaa ok
[11:45] <AyyHello> xeirwn: Eimai theos
[18:43] <AyyHello> Wow.. kaneis den ekane chat apo tote pou fyga
[21:02] <xeirwn> kalispera paides
[21:05] <xeirwn> ti egine twra?...giati den mikrainei to para8uro edw ?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:33.983316
| 2015-11-08T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-hr
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[08:44] <Vlado9A3CY> dobro jutro :)
[15:16] <Mmike> ivoks: kud si ti opet oso?
[16:14] <hbogner> o/
[16:52] <Vlado9A3CY> dobra vecer :)
[17:01] <vileni> Mmike: sto mi radi juju bootstrap?
[18:27] <Mmike> vileni, pripremi ti juju 'environment'
[18:28] <Mmike> vileni, tehnicki, pokrene i skonfigurira state server (osim ak nisi na local provideru, onda samo skonfigurira lokalno jujud + mongodb)
[18:49] <vileni> Mmike: koliko vidim uzeo mi je jedan stroj za to
[18:50] <Mmike> yup
[18:53] <Mmike> vileni, that's by design :)
[19:09] <vileni> Mmike: ovo je prvi put da sam uspio nesto i deployati, sad moram potrgati par puta da saznam di je sto
[19:09] <vileni> jel ima juju remove?
[19:17] <vileni> hm, ima
[20:25] <Mmike> vileni ;)
[20:25] <Mmike> vileni, koji provider koristis?
[20:36] <vileni> Mmike: neznam sto je provider
[20:36] <vileni> ako mislis gdje deployam, imam jedan stroj sa 16 jezgri / 40gb rama
[20:36] <vileni> pa u kvm-u isprobavam
[20:36] <vileni> failao je na mysql clusteru naravno :)
[20:37] <Mmike> vileni, provider je ono sto juju koristi da bi deployao strojeve - openstack, amazon, maas, localdrek, digitalocean, transip...
[20:37] <Mmike> mysql cluster?
[20:37] <Mmike> mislis, percona-cluster?
[22:37] <jobenty> evo jedno pitanje.
[22:39] <jobenty> Ima recimo instaliran ubuntu. Ima tri particije. 1. system na / (jeli to root particija?), 2. home i swap. Ako bih ja sad želio instalirati neku drugu distribuciju ali da ne diram home i swap što moram učiniti prilikom instalacije?
[22:40] <jobenty> Htjedohj reći i 3. swap
[22:42] <CrazyLemon> / = root directory da
[22:43] <CrazyLemon> ako želiš prepisat ubuntu onda samo prepišeš taj root directory i kažeš tijekom instalacije da koristi postojeci home i swap - mount points
[22:43] <CrazyLemon> ako ne želiš prepisat onda napravi još jednu particiju za tu drugu distru
[22:44] <CrazyLemon> možeš koristiti taj home..ali ne bi bilo najpametnije jel može ta druga distribucija prepisat neku konfu od prve
[22:44] <CrazyLemon> a šta če ti još jedna distribucija gore? ako se želiš igrat imaš virtualbox
[22:54] <jobenty> Želim isprobati neke distribucije kako bih moga odlučiti koja mi najviše odgovara. Tako da ne želim mjenjati home i swap particiju a na root particiju bih svaki puta instalirao drugu distribuciju tako da prethodne više nema. Zanima me jeli moguće sve te podatke na home sačuvati ako želim promjeniti distribuciju linuxa na računalu ili ih moram prebacivati na neko drugo mjesto pa nakon instalacije ponovo vraćati?
[22:55] <CrazyLemon> ako home ima svoju particiju onda podatke na home možeš sačuvati
[22:56] <CrazyLemon> samo moraš pazit kod instalacije da ne formatiraš home nego samo označiš mount point
[22:57] <CrazyLemon> a ako još napraviš backup home particije.. isto ne bi bilo slabo :D
[22:57] <jobenty> ok hvala
[22:57] <CrazyLemon> ln
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:34.000193
| 2015-11-08T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-discuss
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[04:29] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> Latrodectus: welcome mate :p
[05:51] <Latrodectus> ty for the invite
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> Latrodectus: the idea behind this, we all do support but never have a chance to discuss to each other
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> Latrodectus: so here we are discussing, to make a better support also
[05:53] <Latrodectus> sweet
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> we also share latest ubuntu news
[05:53] <Latrodectus> interesting
[05:54] <Latrodectus> has the update/upgrade problem been solved for 15.10?
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> Latrodectus: well in my opninion, there are many 15.04/15.10 issues so far
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> upgrade/screen/acpi issues
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> all depends on different system right Latrodectus
[05:55] <Latrodectus> yup
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> others have no issues
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> Latrodectus: but we notice alot of black screens/login loops
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> mostly by wrong drivers
[05:56] <Latrodectus> yup
[05:57] <Latrodectus> and then the person doesn't read the output of the update/upgrade and reboots...
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> yeah upgrading on non-lts is always tricky without backups
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> Latrodectus: im on trusty and also testing xenial
[05:57] <Latrodectus> yup, this is why i usually stick to lts
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> nice nice!
[05:58] <Latrodectus> though one thing that i found distasteful about ubuntu, was the suggested apps in unity and the inability to turn it off
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> Latrodectus: you mean paying apps?
[05:59] <Latrodectus> yes
[05:59] <Latrodectus> but having them in the menu itself
[05:59] <Latrodectus> and no way to turn it off
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> ah, you can choose to turnoff internet hits in dash
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> !info unity-tweak-tool | Latrodectus can help tweak things
[06:00] <Latrodectus> interesting, no one told me about this
[06:00] <Latrodectus> so i just changed distro to xubuntu
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> oh also cool
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> well i rather used to unity now
[06:01] <Latrodectus> ya i run both lubuntu and xubuntu
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> thats for everyones choice
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> nicely
[06:02] <Latrodectus> unity seemed nice, but when i saw the resource usage i, and the paid apps, i changed to xubuntu
[06:02] <Latrodectus> *usage,
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> yeah i understand
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> i like unity's left bar ease
[06:02] <Latrodectus> true
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> xubuntu is nice n fast
[06:05] <Latrodectus> i need the speed because i'm planning to do some multi media production on it
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> nice, specificly what?
[06:07] <Latrodectus> music, animation, image, editing, maybe some video editing
[06:07] <Latrodectus> *image editing
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> nice!
[06:09] <Latrodectus> i think that linux has gotten to a level that you can begin to do post processing on it, i'm just gonna see how far i can go with it.
[06:09] <Latrodectus> plus i hate apple, and dislike windows
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> same here mate
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> i installed trusty on so many boxes
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> and try to spread the word :p
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> opensource is the future
[06:10] <Latrodectus> here's then thing that i tell the apple sheep: apple's whole busness model is to rip you off, by selling you the crappiest shit, for the most expensive price
[06:11] <Latrodectus> and for those windows fanboys: window's busness model is DLC
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> true
[06:12] <Latrodectus> though it's shifting to being a paid platform for three letter agencies
[06:12] <Latrodectus> like cortana really?
[06:12] <Latrodectus> you're gonna try to exfil info about your users, and then charge them for it?
[06:12] <Latrodectus> lol nope
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> its a $$$ world
[06:13] <Latrodectus> yup
[06:13] <Latrodectus> that's where linux flat out wins
[06:13] <Latrodectus> linux should take over the universe
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu made a big jump last years
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> i totaly agree
[06:14] <Latrodectus> and i see a couple of big jumps for linux in the future
[06:14] <Latrodectus> especially with big bussiness picking it up
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[06:15] <Latrodectus> but you know what that means though?
[06:15] <Latrodectus> more viruses for linux
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> yes, just readed something yesterday
[06:15] <Latrodectus> oh link?
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> optirun virus for android,linux,windows,mac
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> hmmm not sure of the name
[06:17] <Latrodectus> that's okay, i know that viruses exsist for all platforms
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> indeed
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> alot of 0day rootkits out there
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> even for linux
[06:17] <Latrodectus> the only reason why linux and mac don't have big problems is because of the market share of windows
[06:18] <Latrodectus> like why write something that can only target 10% of the market when you can write something that will target 70%-80%
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[06:19] <Latrodectus> the only thing that protects linux right now is how premissions are setup
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> and recent updates
[06:19] <Latrodectus> yes
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> to patch security holes
[06:20] <Latrodectus> i think that the default setting for security updates should be to do it immedatly when found
[06:20] <Latrodectus> and to not prompt the user
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> Latrodectus: http://www.viruss.eu/security-news/omnirat-on-the-loose-spywares-nibbling-android-with-a-taste-for-linux-mac-and-windows/
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> omnirat it was
[06:20] <Latrodectus> ty
[06:21] <Latrodectus> to be fare though 80% of android devices are insecure...
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> Latrodectus: well the user is still the boss of the system
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> Latrodectus: maybe even 99% lol
[06:21] <Latrodectus> yup, but security should not be left up to the sheep
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> that google app store is a malware nightmare
[06:22] <Latrodectus> google is a malware nightmare
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> i despite pc banking on phones and leak Oses
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> its a real nasty danger for our future
[06:23] <Latrodectus> yup
[06:23] <Latrodectus> banks should block mobile connections
[06:23] <Latrodectus> because they're not capabel of security
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> banks dont care, what users do
[06:23] <Latrodectus> but banks should care about loseing money
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> the sheeps loosing money all round the globe
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> they never loose a dime, insurances
[06:24] <Latrodectus> but they could pay less for insurance if they didn't have to pay out so much
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> its the ppl that loose big money
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> thats true
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> im sure that every bank have rootkits
[06:25] <Latrodectus> i know that banks like to rip people off, but they should be smart about their security
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> and remote hackers can follow every move
[06:25] <Latrodectus> i've gotten to a point that i don't trust any electronic device that's connected to the internet
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> the whole world is one big botnet
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> very true
[06:26] <Latrodectus> and then any device that ever touched the internet is tainted
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> your healthy paranoia mate
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> even offline boxes got usb infections
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> spreading around their intranet
[06:27] <Latrodectus> yup
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> anyway brekfast here Latrodectus tnx for joining us and feel free to add to favs
[06:27] <Latrodectus> ty for inviteing me, have a good day
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> Latrodectus: you too :p
[07:34] <trumpyy> sup
[07:50] <Latrodectus> nm, getting tired
[07:50] <trumpyy> i know that feeling
[07:51] <Latrodectus> you know the feeling that you get from not blinking, while looking at a screen for hours on end
[07:52] <trumpyy> well i tend to blink every now and then, but yeah lol i know that feeling
[07:54] <Latrodectus> well i think that my eyes are about to fall out...
[08:07] <trumpyy> lol that sucks
[09:59] <lotus|xenial> morning to all
[10:32] <lotus|xenial> morning tj
[10:33] <TJ-> morning
[10:34] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: having issues loading a 4.3 kernel on xenial
[10:35] <lotus|xenial> says error on archive --install
[10:35] <lotus|xenial> after a sudo dpkg -i linux-headers-4.3.0-040300-generic_4.3.0-040300.201511020846_amd64.deb
[10:36] <TJ-> have the other related packages also been installed?
[10:37] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: this is what the guy asked me:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1513477
[10:38] <lotus|xenial> no, just put that .deb in a test folder in /home
[10:38] <TJ-> To be frank, I'd ignore that for now. The later kernel isn't going to help. That device has been supported since 12.04 or even earlier.
[10:38] <lotus|xenial> thats what i thought
[10:38] <TJ-> That's just the standard response to kernel bug reports
[10:39] <lotus|xenial> should i just reply confirmed then
[10:39] <TJ-> If you can wait a day until I've got my WMP600N into a working Mobo here we can see what is expected, and compare with your system
[10:39] <lotus|xenial> ok mate
[10:39] <lotus|xenial> will do
[10:39] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:39] <lotus|xenial> lordieeeee
[10:39] <TJ-> wet and soggy morning :)
[10:39] <lotus|xenial> sunny here
[10:40] <TJ-> I've spent a happy hour converting the Arch iptables systemd service and default rule setting into a nicer Debianised modular format. I *like* systemd :)
[10:40] <lordievader> News reported yesterday was the hottest day since measurement started. 18C in november.
[10:41] <lotus|xenial> yeah lets hope for a cr4ppy winter
[10:41] <TJ-> lordievader: WMP600N has been supported about 10 years: see e.g. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Linksys%20WMP600N
[10:41] <lordievader> My iptables systemd service simply calls a script which sets everything up (ipset & ip(6)tables)
[10:41] <lotus|xenial> lets c
[10:42] <lordievader> TJ-: That is for lotus|xenial I think ;)
[10:42] <lotus|xenial> karmic
[10:42] <TJ-> lordievader: same here; a single script that works for ipv4/6 and reads sets of default rules to apply from /usr/share/ and /etc/
[10:42] <TJ-> Grrr, tab complete!
[10:42] <lotus|xenial> and early morning
[10:43] <lordievader> Ipset is really nice :D
[10:43] <TJ-> lordievader: I'm going to get the script and service control added to the iptables package so we have standard support, regardless of UFW. It's much more important with IPv6 now becoming more widespread, else systems are left open
[10:44] <lordievader> Wasn't that the default Ubuntu policy, accept all?
[10:44] <TJ-> Yes, which has to change
[10:45] <lordievader> Couldn't agree more. Never understood why they didn't at least set the drop policy on the input table.
[10:45] <TJ-> It may be OK with IPv4 where most services are done outside the kernel, but with IPv6 so much is integrated into the protocol, especially with ICMPv6 RA, NS, and everything else
[10:46] <TJ-> but it is refreshing to be able to throw PNAT out the window and just route :)
[10:46] <lordievader> Perhaps that was the reasoning, "most boxes are behind nat we can allow input".
[10:48] <TJ-> Yes, precisely
[10:52] <lotus|xenial> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1513477
[10:52] <lotus|xenial> oops
[10:52] <lotus|xenial> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/11/06/omnirat_malware_android_poc_mac_linux/
[10:53] <lordievader> lotus|xenial: Would the RT2800usb suffer the same problem?
[10:53] <lotus|xenial> lordievader: i think so
[10:54] <lordievader> Hmm, that would explain a thing or two.
[10:54] <lotus|xenial> lordievader: i had it working on trusty after fixing something with TJ- with linux-firmware
[10:54] <lotus|xenial> cant remember how exactly
[10:55] <lordievader> Must say I haven't really fully troubleshooted the issue yet.
[10:55] <lotus|xenial> anyway ill try to bug ancient bus to xenial again in early stage :p
[10:55] <lotus|xenial> bugs
[10:56] <lotus|xenial> here's my second: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/1513801
[10:56] * lordievader blames Unity :P
[10:56] <lotus|xenial> :p
[10:57] <lotus|xenial> yeah havent tested kubuntu on this card,ever
[10:57] <lotus|xenial> maybe i should
[10:58] <TJ-> OK, I must still be asleep! Just spent 10 minutes trying to debug an error in a bash shell script... then realised I was calling it with 'sh' as in "sh -x /path/to/script" - no wonder if failed!
[10:59] <lotus|xenial> :p
[10:59] <lotus|xenial> !coffee
[10:59] <lordievader> TJ-: More coffee!!
[10:59] * lordievader slide TJ- a cup
[10:59] <lotus|xenial> cfhowletttttttttttttt
[10:59] <cfhowlett> hey bubba!
[11:00] <lotus|xenial> lol
[11:00] <lotus|xenial> how are things in beijing
[11:00] <cfhowlett> counting down. I'm soon to relocate; Tokyo.
[11:00] <lotus|xenial> cfhowlett: for good?
[11:01] <lotus|xenial> i love japan
[11:01] <cfhowlett> well, for the length of the employment contract. It'll be my first time. Looking forward to it.
[11:01] <lotus|xenial> nice
[11:01] <lotus|xenial> eat alot of sushi for me
[11:02] <cfhowlett> yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaah, no. sake maybe?
[11:02] <lotus|xenial> of course
[11:02] <lotus|xenial> no sushi without sake
[11:02] <cfhowlett> :0
[11:07] <lotus|xenial> lol away
[11:07] <cfhowlett> hey, I was gentle.
[11:07] <lotus|xenial> and he did it!!
[11:08] <cfhowlett> :) that's a win
[11:16] <TJ-> Grrr, I'm getting annoyed. NM runs 2 private instances of dhclient when using both IPv4 and IPv6. when those processes write to the syslog they don't identify themselves. So, I have a message there and don't know which one is having difficulty!
[11:17] <lotus|xenial> realtime tail -f cant seperate them neither i presume?
[11:25] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: maybe this can help: http://serverfault.com/questions/556124/monitoring-ipv4-vs-ipv6-traffic
[11:34] <lotus|xenial> uh-oh
[11:34] <lotus|xenial> * pikaaaa ([email protected]) has joined
[11:35] <lordievader> Known troll?
[11:36] <lotus|xenial> yes
[11:36] <lotus|xenial> he comes back with false info lordievader
[11:36] <lordievader> Do ops know about him?
[11:37] <lotus|xenial> daftykins added an op report, but not sure they was awake at this time
[11:37] <lotus|xenial> lordievader: he quoted TJ- last time to use for another user and wasnt relevant
[11:37] <lordievader> Probably just to look knowledgable.
[11:37] <lotus|xenial> yeah
[11:38] <lotus|xenial> yesss hes got in with ikonia lol
[11:38] <lotus|xenial> now its not gonna take long lol
[11:40] <lotus|xenial> yayyy
[11:40] <lotus|xenial> lol
[11:40] <lotus|xenial> he got himself banned
[11:42] <lordievader> I'm not surprised :P
[11:42] <lotus|xenial> lordievader: all ok with your new ssd?
[11:43] <lordievader> Yeah, it is working nicely.
[11:43] <lotus|xenial> nice!
[11:43] <lotus|xenial> ok dinnertime here guys
[11:43] <lotus|xenial> bbl
[11:43] <lotus|xenial> if anyone see daftykins tell him pikachu got banned
[11:45] <lordievader> Dinner? It is the afternoon?
[12:41] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:44] <lordievader> Hey BluesKaj
[12:45] <BluesKaj> Hey lordievader
[12:46] <lordievader> How are you doing today?
[12:49] <BluesKaj> fine here, lordievader, and you?
[12:49] <lordievader> Doing good here
[12:52] <BluesKaj> heavy frost last night, but supposed to be +10 or so this afternoon, gotta finish raking the leaves before the rain later this week
[12:54] <lordievader> It is around 17 today, quite warm for november.
[13:14] <BluesKaj> yes , we had 20 last weeks for a few days
[13:15] <BluesKaj> err last week
[18:27] <daftykins> yay no more pikachu! :) (i'm keeping with the pokemon nickname, it's funnier)
[18:35] <EriC^^> lol
[18:35] <EriC^^> daftykins: \o
[18:36] <daftykins> hallo!
[18:36] <daftykins> how are we all this relaxed sunday night?
[18:36] <EriC^^> good good, you?
[18:37] <daftykins> yeah not bad thanks :)
[18:37] <EriC^^> :)
[18:37] <daftykins> looks like a chance call and meet today has got me some work \o/
[18:37] <EriC^^> awesome
[18:37] <daftykins> helping to properly network cable an electrician friends client's house
[18:37] <EriC^^> i bought the tv today
[18:37] <daftykins> ah yeah? happy with it?
[18:38] <daftykins> which did you settle on? :D
[18:38] <EriC^^> they didn't have 1920x1080 though, the guy said they dont carry it for 32" tv's there
[18:38] <EriC^^> i got a 1366x768 one
[18:38] <daftykins> ah ok
[18:39] <daftykins> my 2006 Sony was that res - and my laptop is :>
[18:39] <EriC^^> i ended up getting a samsung, i wanted an lg, but the seat wont work cause of the funky leg design
[18:39] <EriC^^> but i'm happy with the samsung, it's nice
[18:40] <daftykins> excellent :>
[18:40] <daftykins> was the plan just to watch TV, or to connect your laptop/PC into it too?
[18:40] <EriC^^> man they have some crazy shit there
[18:40] <EriC^^> like curved huge tv's and stuff
[18:41] <EriC^^> i was like whoa O.o
[18:41] <EriC^^> nah, it's just for watching tv
[18:42] <OerHeks> 1366x768 tvs are cheap, i want a full hd 200 mhz
[18:45] <EriC^^> why are the new ones curved anyways?
[18:47] <daftykins> some kinda gimmick
[18:47] <daftykins> the idea is that our eyes prefer a curved display
[18:47] <daftykins> i've not seen one in person, but someone i know got one and they say they don't even notice the difference in use
[18:47] <EriC^^> it looks pretty cool i'd say
[18:48] <EriC^^> i want to go buy a hdmi cable and lots of neat pc stuff
[18:50] <OerHeks> such intel compute-stick too?
[18:51] <EriC^^> what's that?
[18:52] <OerHeks> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/07/02/intel-compute-stick-now-comes-with-ubuntu/
[18:53] <OerHeks> plugin hdmi, attach bt keyboard and go
[18:54] <EriC^^> wow that is nuts!
[18:54] <daftykins> what's funny is the Linux ones i've seen have way lower specs compared to the Windows one XD
[18:55] <EriC^^> lol
[18:55] <OerHeks> one sidenote: it is a huge stick hanging on your hdmi ..
[18:56] <EriC^^> yeah that's true
[18:56] <EriC^^> i want to maybe get a hdmi cable for my room's tv -> pc i had one but it broke a while ago, for the ps3 too
[18:57] <EriC^^> and maybe some random usb's maybe
[18:58] <daftykins> :D
[18:58] <daftykins> the little FireTV stick things amazon sell, they at least come with a short extension in case your HDMI sockets are too close together
[19:00] <EriC^^> it's pretty nuts that they fit a quad core on that thing
[19:00] <OerHeks> That would be preferrable.
[19:00] <EriC^^> a usb pc, heh
[19:00] <EriC^^> with microsd card slot
[19:01] <EriC^^> hmm it has a power input?
[19:01] <EriC^^> and 2 usb slots? 1 for key 1 for mouse?
[19:03] <EriC^^> oh ok 1 usb slot
[19:04] <EriC^^> and wireless keyboard and mouse
[19:05] <EriC^^> i think it uses it's own power supply though
[19:06] <daftykins> yeah no power from HDMI, the amazon things for example would use what is basically a smartphone charger
[19:06] <EriC^^> i wonder if you get the windows one could you format and install ubuntu on it?
[19:07] <EriC^^> they gave ubuntu 1gb memory and 8gb space, windows is 2gb and 32gb space
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[19:08] <daftykins> hey sir! funny news about our buddy pikachu i saw there :>
[19:08] <EriC^^> evening lotuspsychje
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> hey daftykins and EriC^^
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: yeah got him right where i wanted :p
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: started to make scene while ikonia was on lol
[19:09] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: I've just fired up a PC with the WMP600N in
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: nice, wich ubuntu version?
[19:10] <TJ-> 12.04
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: hows that working out
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> brb
[19:12] <daftykins> :) http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/08/%23ubuntu-ops.txt muchly amusing
[19:17] <OerHeks> grinn
[19:17] <TJ-> HaHa, I think lotus managed to actually reprogram the device ID of his WMP600N!
[19:20] <TJ-> whilst I'm AWOL if lotus returns ask him to "pastebinit <( sudo lspci -xxxvvvnn -s 00:0c.0 )" please
[19:22] <OerHeks> oke
[19:27] <OerHeks> lotus
[19:27] <OerHeks> lotus
[19:27] <OerHeks> lotus
[19:27] <OerHeks> [20:20:50] <TJ-> whilst I'm AWOL if lotus returns ask him to "pastebinit <( sudo lspci -xxxvvvnn -s 00:0c.0 )" please
[19:28] <OerHeks> but please use paste.ubuntu.com
[19:28] <OerHeks> :-P
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> lol
[19:28] <OerHeks> no LoL, serious.
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: im on another box here
[19:28] <OerHeks> oh
[19:28] <OerHeks> sell it, and return
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> holdon lemme go upstairs
[19:31] <lotus|xenial> OerHeks: paste me again please :p
[19:31] <OerHeks> [20:20:50] <TJ-> whilst I'm AWOL if lotus returns ask him to "pastebinit <( sudo lspci -xxxvvvnn -s 00:0c.0 )" please
[19:31] <lotus|xenial> tnx
[19:32] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13200303/
[19:34] <TJ-> lotus|xenial: You're amazing! You've somehow managed to reprogram the PCI config space of that device (in other words, corrupt it ) :D
[19:34] <lotus|xenial> uh?
[19:35] <pauljw> Hi everyone
[19:35] <lotus|xenial> hey pauljw
[19:35] <pauljw> :)
[19:35] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: explain in english now :p
[19:36] <TJ-> First look at this table which shows the layout of PCI device registers. Pay attention to the Device ID, Vendor ID, Subsystem ID and Subsytem Vendor ID fields
[19:36] <TJ-> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_configuration_space#Standardized_registers
[19:37] <TJ-> Now compare my device's lspci report to your own: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13199781/
[19:37] <lotus|xenial> lets c
[19:37] <TJ-> The block of hexadecimal data in those is the PCI config registers
[19:38] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: yes, but your device has the rt2800pci module loaded, mine not
[19:38] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: or doesnt that matter
[19:38] <TJ-> If you look carefully you'll recognise the expected Vendor:Device ID at 00 (bytes are stored little-endian, so you have to reverse them). 14 18 01 06 is 1814:0601
[19:38] <TJ-> lotus|xenial: forget about the driver; that has ZERO to do with it
[19:38] <lotus|xenial> ok
[19:39] <TJ-> BOTH our devices PCI registers report the CORRECT Vendor:Product ID
[19:39] <TJ-> BUT your PC somehow translates that to "1014:0601" in the record which is what causes it to fail to be recognised
[19:39] <TJ-> 00:0c.0 Network controller [0280]: IBM Device [1014:0601]
[19:39] <lotus|xenial> yeah i see
[19:39] <lotus|xenial> so why does it do that?
[19:39] <TJ-> 1014:0601 not 1814:0601
[19:40] <TJ-> Well, the most obvious cause is a glitch in the CPU's data bus, or in a memory module
[19:40] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: ram glitch?
[19:40] <TJ-> I'd bet on the former since I can't imagine the exact same memory address being used every time for different OS releases.
[19:41] <TJ-> So, somehow, the PCI config is initially read incorrectly but later, when we use lspci -xxx and force it to be read directly, we see the correct data
[19:41] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: do its not ubuntu's fault, but somewhere hardware/bios?
[19:41] <lotus|xenial> so
[19:43] <TJ-> Looks that way; I'm wondering if it is some kind of PCI bus bug
[19:44] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: but the weird thing is, it all worked on trusty
[19:44] <TJ-> I want to try some direct manipulation of the device to see if we can 'poke' it into waking up
[19:44] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: we fixxed this somehow with linux-firmware
[19:44] <lotus|xenial> 100% sure
[19:44] <TJ-> Yeah, which is why I think it's a PCI Bus issue
[19:44] <TJ-> The kernel is definitely misreading the device ID at boot time
[19:44] <lotus|xenial> ah
[19:45] <lotus|xenial> i also recently tested trusty usb again live, and card didnt show anymore
[19:45] <TJ-> which is unlikely to be a device issue, but a PCI bus issue. It's obviously 'loosing' the 2nd nibble (4 bits) of the 1st byte, so instead of reading 0x18 (as we can see is actually there) it is reading 0x10
[19:46] <TJ-> We need to check the Extended PCI config space; let me check how to do that
[19:46] <lotus|xenial> ok
[19:46] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: can i pastebin some other boot logs somewhere?
[19:47] <TJ-> "pastebinit <( sudo lspci -xxxxvvvnn -s 00:0c.0 )" (4 x this time)
[19:48] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13200817/
[19:48] <TJ-> the extra x gets us the extended 4096 byte config space
[19:49] <TJ-> Oh, the device doesn't have any extended - didn't realise they were that old!
[19:49] <lotus|xenial> lol
[19:49] <lotus|xenial> i refuse to throw away old hardware :p
[19:50] <TJ-> right. thinking cap on. We know the config space registers are correct *now*. Can we influence the kernel though
[19:50] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: how about i test a cmos clear?
[19:52] <TJ-> won't help
[19:52] <lotus|xenial> ok
[19:52] <TJ-> Could you test it with a 15.10 *i386* live ISO please?
[19:53] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: i cam from 15.10 64bit
[19:53] <lotus|xenial> upgrade
[19:53] <TJ-> I think my Chinese friend that hacks the PCI code has boo-booed :)
[19:53] <lotus|xenial> didnt work on wily
[19:53] <lotus|xenial> only trusty saw the card
[19:53] <TJ-> Well, test an i386 Live ISO
[19:53] <lotus|xenial> kk
[19:53] <TJ-> I think there's a bug in the amd64-specific code
[19:54] <TJ-> Unfortunately I can't test a 64-bit install on the PC here its only a 32-bit CPU
[19:55] <TJ-> I also noticed your bug report doesn't have a dmesg attached, which it really needs
[19:55] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: ok ill add it
[19:55] * OerHeks grabs a 64 bit duo core with 2 gb from the wastebin
[19:57] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: added: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1513477
[19:59] <lotus|xenial> downloading wily32
[20:00] <lotus|xenial> might take while for getting it on stick, as xenial lil buggy startup creator
[20:01] <TJ-> I think the crux of the issue is: "acpi PNP0A03:00: fail to add MMCONFIG information, can't access extended PCI configuration space under this bridge." ... MMCONFIG is the keyword there
[20:02] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: acpi bug would make more sense, as trusty hadnt the issue
[20:03] <TJ-> might be worth trying a boot with acpi=off - it'll probably break lots of other things, but if you can do it in Recovery mode to get to a root shell so you can run "lspci -nn" and check the Vendor ID that'd be enough
[20:04] <lotus|xenial> ok ill try after wily 32 live
[20:05] <TJ-> Also, separately, try "pci=check_enable_amd_mmconf"
[20:05] <lotus|xenial> what does that do
[20:06] <TJ-> And another, which tells the kernel to try a different method to access the PCI config space: "pci=conf2" (the default is "pci=conf1" )
[20:06] <TJ-> check_enable_amd_mmconf [X86] check for and enable
[20:06] <TJ-> properly configured MMIO access to PCI
[20:06] <TJ-> config space on AMD family 10h CPU
[20:06] <lotus|xenial> ok
[20:07] <daftykins> silly question, but that card coming up as IBM isn't down to it being pulled from a more business system at all is it? very odd idea i know, but thought i'd shout
[20:07] <daftykins> i think one of you even suggested it earlier on
[20:08] <TJ-> [ 0.084000] smpboot: CPU0: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ (fam: 0f, model: 04, stepping: 08)
[20:08] <TJ-> daftykins: No, it's actually misreading the Vendor ID.
[20:08] <lotus|xenial> daftykins: we investigated and base was IBM and vendor linksys
[20:09] <daftykins> ah ok
[20:09] <TJ-> The card actual has stored in its PCI config registers: 1814:0601 BUT at PCI bus probe time it reads it as 1014:0601 - dropping the 2nd nibble
[20:09] <lotus|xenial> what a weird situation lol
[20:09] <daftykins> weird! same in other systems too?
[20:09] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: does precise got your card by default?
[20:09] <daftykins> i guess lotus wouldn't dare put Windows near it ;)
[20:09] <TJ-> I've seen this kind of thing in the distant past but not recently
[20:09] <lotus|xenial> lol dualboot you wish!!
[20:11] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: or did you have to play with firmwares
[20:15] <lotus|xenial> first wily usb attempt create failed
[20:18] <TJ-> firmware doesn't enter into this; that is loaded by the driver, and the driver is loaded when the kernel tells udevd a new device has been added. udev finds the module to load by the PCI Vendor:Device ID, and as the kernel is passing the wrong one, it fails.
[20:20] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: but on trusty lspci -nn saw the right chipset
[20:20] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: and after adding firmware right, card was working
[20:20] <TJ-> lotus|xenial: right. So like I said, a bug in the recent kernel's PCI bus probe logic
[20:20] <lotus|xenial> ic
[20:20] <TJ-> I think I've found a way to force the kernel to see it correctly whilst the system is running
[20:21] <TJ-> can you "pastebinit <( ls -l /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:0c.0/ )"
[20:21] <lotus|xenial> sure
[20:22] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13201737/
[20:23] <TJ-> Try this: "echo 1 | sudo dd of=/sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:0c.0/rescan" - that tells the device to rescan the hardware. It *may* help. Then, to check, do "lspci -nn" and see if the Vendor:Device ID are now correctly showing 1814:0601
[20:25] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13201788/
[20:25] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: no: 00:0c.0 Network controller [0280]: IBM Device [1014:0601]
[20:25] <TJ-> OK, let's try a more serious one then
[20:26] <TJ-> Try this: "echo 1 | sudo dd of=/sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:0c.0/reset"
[20:27] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: gives me a>_
[20:27] <lotus|xenial> blinking
[20:27] <lotus|xenial> cursor
[20:27] <TJ-> OK, that's forced a reset - did 'dd' report and complete, or is it hung?
[20:27] <lotus|xenial> hung on blink cursor yea
[20:28] <TJ-> Open a new terminal, check you've got control
[20:28] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: same, ibm device
[20:29] <TJ-> Let me check the kernel source; I'm not sure if '1' is the correct value to write. It ought to be since those things are usually booleans and 1 == true
[20:32] <lotus|xenial> 3rd time wily usb creating grrr
[20:34] <TJ-> Yes, 1 is the correct value
[20:34] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: whats next :p
[20:39] <TJ-> Try all those kernel command-line parameters I gave you, one at a time, with Recovery mode/root shell to check
[20:40] <lotus|xenial> ok trying acpi=off first
[20:40] <TJ-> I'm reading the source. It's drivers/pci/probe.c::pci_scan_device() which calls pci_bus_read_dev_vendor_id()
[20:41] <lotus|xenial> brb reboot with acpi=off
[20:41] <TJ-> OK
[20:44] <lotus|xenial> acpi=off no luck
[20:44] <lotus|xenial> next going for pci=check_enable_amd_mmconf
[20:45] <lotus|xenial> reboot
[20:45] <TJ-> ... which calls pci_bus_read_dev_vendor_id() which calls pci_bus_read_config_dword() which is created by a preprocessor macro in drivers/pci/access.c PCI_OP_READ(dword, u32, 4) which calls (struct pci_bus*bus)->ops->read(bus, devfn, pos, len, &data)
[20:47] <lotus|xenial> pci= failed
[20:48] <lotus|xenial> next is "pci=conf2
[20:48] <lotus|xenial> reboot
[20:56] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: conf2 locked me into an initram busybox
[20:56] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: cant boot anymore
[20:58] <TJ-> OK, so we know method2 doesn't work. reboot it normally and try "pastebinit <( sudo lspci -nn -H1 -s 00:0c.0 ; sudo sudo lspci -nn -A dump -s 00:0c.0 ; sudo lspci -nn -H1 -M )"
[20:58] <TJ-> That will try several different direct hardware probe methods
[20:59] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: gonna b for tomorrow mate
[21:00] <TJ-> OK, keep a note of it
[21:00] <TJ-> At least we have a line on what the problem is now
[21:01] <lotuspsychje> ok
[21:01] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: tnx for supporting so far
[21:02] <TJ-> I'll try to test mine in a later, 64-bit, kernel tonight
[21:02] <lotuspsychje> kk
[21:02] <lotuspsychje> nite nite
[21:02] <pauljw> :)
[22:19] <OerHeks> i hear that claim before, no memtest86 in grubmenu ..
[22:19] <daftykins> mmm, can't be a thing of EFI installs right?
[22:20] <OerHeks> maybe, http://i.stack.imgur.com/1aKFc.jpg , then 'advanced options' ??
[22:20] <daftykins> yep, guy claimed he just saw his older kernels there
[22:22] <TJ-> UEFI can't do memtest86+, or couldn't some time ago, because UEFI was 'in the way' (using memory so can't test it)
[22:23] <TJ-> Got an interesting PC here - just booted it with Rescue and its kernel 2.4.21, dated 2003, and SUSE Linux. Interesting experience!
[22:23] <daftykins> ah that'll explain why http://termbin.com/weir has no entry :)
[22:23] <daftykins> TJ-: :D
[22:23] <daftykins> TJ-: keep a count of commands or tools that aren't there ;)
[22:23] <OerHeks> oh oke, learned something today
[22:24] <TJ-> It's doing rather well when it agrees to boot. I think one of the RAID controllers has an issue
[22:24] <daftykins> <3 RAID :)
[22:25] <TJ-> About to boot it from a DVD with 15.10 on.. that'll shock it
[22:26] <daftykins> "what are you doing to meeeeee!?"
[22:27] <daftykins> we're getting a lot of these guys with expensive gaming laptops trying to dualboot ubuntu with Windows, and it really not working well, these days
[22:30] <TJ-> I forgot how DVD trays like to snag my fingers!
[22:30] <OerHeks> eject && eject -t
[22:31] <daftykins> :D
[22:31] <OerHeks> oh, does not work, -t, on laptops without motorised caddy
[22:31] <daftykins> were you guys ever fans of pushing the trays in? i always used the buttons for safety :>
[22:31] <OerHeks> stupid button is under the tray, design-failure nr 1
[22:31] <TJ-> oh grrr! it's got 2 physical CPUs but they're 32-bit! Back to the DVD-writer!
[22:32] <OerHeks> TJ-, hop on your bicycle, and grab a 64 mobo here
[22:32] <OerHeks> plenty of that stuff ..
[22:35] <daftykins> :D
[22:35] <TJ-> the BIOS doesn't support USB boot which surprised me
[22:48] <daftykins> does it sound safe for me to tell ksft to install libc6* on his 14.04.3 install? it's to get 32-bit libs for steam
[22:48] <daftykins> oh, ^libc6.*
[22:48] <TJ-> it sounds like it needs the multilibs. I'd be tempted to run 'ldd' against the steam executable, to see which libraries it claims to have lost
[22:49] <TJ-> Because if it worked, and now doesn't, that points to disk corruption
[22:49] <daftykins> it did only report the one missing at least in its' error, libc.so.6
[22:49] <TJ-> Might be worth also doing "sudo ldconfig" in case its just the library cache broken
[22:50] <daftykins> ty :) interesting he's not getting a power off anymore since updating the BIOS
[22:50] <OerHeks> he did already, this afternoon with ikonia
[22:51] <daftykins> huge jump from v2.xx to v3.xx on the Lenovo site
[22:51] <TJ-> I'd 'strace' it too, see what is going on
[22:52] <OerHeks> if ksft did install a prop driver for his intel/nvidia machine, steam should work.
[22:53] <TJ-> how it can 'miss' libc I don't know; almost nothing can function without that
[22:53] <TJ-> And everything else is working, so that makes me wonder if its a libc shipped with steam
[22:54] <OerHeks> that is checked too, still wonder ..
[23:01] <TJ-> what release is ksft using? there shouldn't be apt errors. Is it 14.10 by any chance?
[23:02] <TJ-> i asked for 'apt-cache policy steam' to identify where the steam package is coming from
[23:02] <daftykins> nah 14.04.3 - he just meant he was re-running steam thinking my dist-upgrade would have fixed it
[23:02] <daftykins> that sounds good, i'll see if i can persuade him to run it too :)
[23:02] <daftykins> i did wonder if ubuntu repo or PPA based
[23:02] <TJ-> right, or gdebi, or debian!
[23:02] <daftykins> ah he got you it
[23:02] <TJ-> I've found similar bugs with debian
[23:02] <OerHeks> or steam in wine :-D
[23:03] <daftykins> 'tis official
[23:03] <TJ-> dependencies: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/steam
[23:04] <TJ-> libc6 (>= 2.12)
[23:05] <OerHeks> so he might need libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386
[23:07] <TJ-> OerHeks: if the package is installed by apt, all the dependencies should be pulled in. He reported some errors with apt-get though, so yes, we need a pastebin of those
[23:07] <daftykins> my history of commands would have involved "purge nvidia* " but that won't match when nvidia is in the middle right? so i probably didn't remove it
[23:08] <TJ-> No, this is a dynamic linker issue
[23:09] <TJ-> I'm wondering if he's got an older version of libc6 installed under /usr/local/ or similar
[23:12] <daftykins> when he first came in with the issue it sounded like steam ran until the fiddling commenced :D
[23:15] <TJ-> Hmmm... /lib32/libc.so.6 and /libx32/libc.so.6
[23:15] <daftykins> O_O
[23:19] <TJ-> that script does a load of weird stuff to figure out which executable to run
[23:21] <daftykins> i don't think the steam client is too clever :) a while back they had a bit of code that erases / as root instead of /some/path/to/a/game/ if you told it to delete a game :)
[23:28] <TJ-> It looks crap already! Looks like we lost ksft, not seen a response anyhow
[23:28] <TJ-> HA!
[23:29] <daftykins> ruh roh
[23:30] <TJ-> let's see if <my username> gets translated!
[23:30] <OerHeks> still not installed libc6:386 ... is he fooling us?
[23:31] <TJ-> It's installed
[23:31] <TJ-> I'd laugh if ksft's real username were actually "<my username>" and the <> and space were causing the script to die
[23:31] <daftykins> XD
[23:32] <OerHeks> uh oh
[23:32] <TJ-> urghh, it's messing with the LIBRARY_PATHs
[23:33] <daftykins> not fond of that me_xy guy demanding help to fix Windows boot, because he's using a Linux program to do it XD
[23:33] <daftykins> "this means it's your problem!"
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[03:13] <Pratss> I need help to know why eclipse gives me tomcat error when I try to add any package in project. error says : Server Tomcat v7.0 Server at localhost failed when I am deleting the package it works fine
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[17:41] <dkessel> flocculant: filed bug 1514221
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[00:14] <MilhoDroid> hello everybody :D
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[00:34] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu错误报告 • 15.10鼠标不能即插即用? http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473762 升级了15.10后,有时发现笔记本电脑的鼠标不能工作,但触摸板正常,今天测试了下,起动后确实鼠标不能即插即用,而重启后再可以. 诸位同学有木有? zz: Jacky286 — 2015-11-08 8:33
[01:57] <asdf2> :)
[02:48] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 竟然是图片 http://i4.xiaohua.fd.zol-img.com.cn/t_s600x5000/g3/M02/00/08/Cg-4WFI2pt6IcFdnAAIa-69WifoAALrDgKj0OUAAhsT274.jpg 美女们,我也来凑个热闹哈.
[02:58] <chenshaoju> 冷
[03:57] <MangHuo> onlylove: 唉
[03:57] <MangHuo> onlylove: 运气实在不行
[03:57] <MangHuo> onlylove: 得等到下周末才能换了
[03:57] <MangHuo> onlylove: 换了台，少了个点儿
[04:57] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: http://xiaohua.zol.com.cn/detail1/34278.html 连锁反应 : 阿明对邻居抱怨:你把你的狗扔掉好不好?它昨天晚上叫个不停,我老婆不得不停止练歌。真倒霉! 真对不起,邻居答,是尊夫人先叫的。
[05:49] <yangdawei> 有哈尔滨的同学吗
[05:55] <asdf2> 貌似没呢
[06:04] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • Ubuntu 15.10能支持UEFI启动吗？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473763 在14.04和15.04试过都是Ok的，目前发现15.10在UEFI下没法启动，这个有办法解决吗？ zz: den583105 — 2015-11-08 14:04
[06:06] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • Ubuntu 15.10能支持UEFI启动吗？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473764 在14.04和15.04试过都是Ok的，目前发现15.10在UEFI下没法启动，这个有办法解决吗？ zz: den583105 — 2015-11-08 14:05
[06:57] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu错误报告 • apt-get 安装软件时出现：“无法下载...大小不符” 问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473765 今天下载qt5-default文件组时出现错误： E: 无法下载 http://cn.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/poo ... _amd64.deb 大小不符 zz: dronsure — 2015-11-08 14:29
[07:08] <^k^> 新 手机和平板 • 树莓派免费送，有那么好的事吗？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473766 我找到一个免费送树莓派的活动，要求邀请30位注册才可以获得。注册并验证手机号码然后邀请30人注册就可以了。内容如下： 参与时速云关爱程序员暖心月活动，还有机会获得小米随身W
[07:08] <^k^> ─> ifi、乐视耳机 和树莓派，点此注册： https://www.tenxcloud.com/signup?invite ... 5e355790b0 一定要验 …
[07:15] <^k^> 新 字体美化和中文支持 • 怎么在命令行环境下给用户添加中文输入法？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473767 我在命令行环境下定制ubuntu kylin 15.04 desktop的live cd，用adduser命令添加了个用户。启动定制的live cd，用该用户登录，没有中文输入法，必须打开“配置Fcitx”，在里面添
[07:21] <pigpig> Hello,every one
[07:21] <pigpig> I have a puzzle about download
[07:22] <pigpig> I want download the deb package of Texmaker 4.5 amd64, and I had downloaded it
[07:22] <pigpig> Thanks!!
[07:23] <pigpig> But, I meet a unbelievable event
[07:25] <pigpig> that is, this website:http://www.xm1math.net/texmaker/download.html can not be open by google chrome, also can not be ping
[07:25] <ubrl> pigpig: ⇪ Texmaker (free cross-platform latex editor)
[07:25] <pigpig> yes, it is
[07:27] <pigpig> But if I use wget -c -r -np https:xxx -P /home/xxx, I can download it favorably why?
[07:27] <pigpig> why I can not open the link, but I can use the wget to get it ?
[07:28] <pigpig> yes, onlylove ,it is
[07:29] <pigpig> This strong phenomena is existence even I use a proxy seriver
[07:33] <pigpig> can someone interpret it for me ,Thanks!!!
[07:42] <gebjgd> pigpig, first you should learn chinese then you can chat here
[07:42] <gebjgd> pigpig, second, that web page i can open it without any problem
[07:42] <gebjgd> pi
[07:43] <pigpig> 我，可以说中文的
[07:43] <pigpig> 我，需要把问题再说一边吗？
[07:44] <pigpig> 谢谢gebjgd！！
[07:45] <pigpig> 我从网站：http://www.xm1math.net/texmaker/download.html下载texmaker ubuntu 12.04 amd64.deb
[07:46] <pigpig> 但是这个网站打不开，即便我是用了proxy
[07:47] <pigpig> 但是如果我用wget -c -r -np https:xxx -P /home/xxx之后，就能够下载了，速度很慢，大概3.5kb
[07:48] <pigpig> 我不能理解是是为什么下载页面不能访问，但是去可以用wget传输
[07:50] <pigpig> 你好，gebjgd，我依然打不开那个网页
[07:52] <gebjgd> pigpig, 你需要翻墙
[07:53] <gebjgd> pigpig, 为什么要下载ubuntu 12.04的包 1404或者debian8你需要考虑
[07:54] <pigpig> 我的os是12.04 64bit，所以要下载12.04的包
[07:55] <gebjgd> pigpig, 升级
[07:57] <pigpig> gebjgd， 你是说OS升级？
[07:58] <gebjgd> pigpig, 恩那
[08:00] <pigpig> 关于翻墙，我用virtualbox
[08:01] <pigpig> gebjgd
[08:01] <pigpig> 关于翻墙，我用virtualbox 的win7 代理服务器，youtube是直接打开的
[08:02] <pigpig> 但是依然打不开这个网站
[08:02] <pigpig> 而且我刚才ping了这个网站，没有返回包
[08:02] <pigpig> 根本ping不通
[08:03] <pigpig> gebjgd，你觉得这是系统版本引起的什么问题?
[08:11] <gebjgd> pigpig, 不是 是墙的问题
[08:11] <gebjgd> pigpig, 都用ubuntu 为什么要自己下载deb 源是干嘛用的
[08:13] <pigpig> 不用源的原因是源里的版本太老，并且其自动辅助安装一个很老版本的支持，所以有意避开源
[08:15] <pigpig> 这个墙是如何做到我翻过他并且打开了youtube之后，它仍然可以墙掉www.xmlmath.net这个网站的？
[08:15] <gebjgd> pigpig, 因为你在用老的版本
[08:15] <pigpig> 想不通啊？
[08:18] <gebjgd> pigpig, 问档去
[08:19] <pigpig> een...
[08:40] <^k^> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • ubuntu 重新编译内核之后无法启动的问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473768 hello， 请教一下，我重新下载编译内核，安装之后系统就起不来了，试了好多次了，就是不行。哪位知道是什么原因不？？ 我的操作步骤是这样的： 1.uname -r 查看当前用
[08:40] <^k^> ─> 版本，然后从官网kernel.org下载对应的或者更高的版本，我还apt-get install linux -sourceXXX 过 …
[11:29] <Freebuilder> 吼吼
[11:50] <^k^> 新 影音多媒体 • 怎么把swf拖到firefox后是下载，不是播放？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473769 如题，怎么破？以前都正常，托进去就播放，今天用突然发现一拖进去就是下载，在ｃｈｒｏｍｉｕｍ和ｏｐｅｒａ里也是如此啊 zz: lovebluesky — 2015-11-08 19:48
[11:54] <Freebuilder> 吼吼
[12:12] <yurakucho> yunfan: ...
[12:12] <yurakucho> yunfan: 去搞大数据了, 分布式数据库
[12:16] <yunfan> yurakucho: 尼玛 我是叫你私信告诉我具体公司名
[12:16] <yurakucho> yunfan: 还没入职, 我现在无业呢 =,=
[12:17] <yunfan> yurakucho: 哼哼 这么保密 你又不影响股市涨跌
[12:17] <yunfan> 告诉我不算内幕消息
[12:17] <yurakucho> 我这是professional
[12:19] * yurakucho 夭寿啦, 代售快递的小卖部一直关门
[12:19] <yunfan> 你就是矫情
[12:19] <yunfan> 对了 这个是不是你的移民步骤啊
[12:20] <yurakucho> yunfan: 出不去了, 又穷又笨
[12:21] <yunfan> yurakucho: 怎么会 主席不都出去了嘛
[12:21] <yurakucho> 他钱多
[12:21] <yunfan> 主席可真尼玛潇洒诶
[12:21] <yunfan> 出去折腾一阵 回来折腾一阵 再出去折腾
[12:24] <Freebuilder> 吼吼
[12:24] <yurakucho> 这是要比拼"哪个西方国家我没去过?"那位
[12:24] <Freebuilder> 我操
[12:24] <Freebuilder> onlylove, 装了屁音频就有声音了，卸载了又无声了
[12:24] <Freebuilder> onlylove, 不爆它菊都不行
[12:24] <yunfan> 实在不行 以后让主席帮你假结婚吧
[12:25] * yurakucho 遁
[12:51] <yangdawei> 我用的是xchat
[12:51] <yangdawei> 有时消息最后一个字母只显示半个，请问是怎么回事？
[12:58] <Freebuilder> 改字体字号
[12:58] <Freebuilder> 要么 9pt 要么 12pt
[12:59] <Freebuilder> 10pt 就会有这种现象
[12:59] <yunfan> Freebuilder: 还有这种事？
[13:07] <yangdawei> 改变了字体
[13:07] <yangdawei> 现在好多了
[13:07] <yangdawei> Freebuilder, 谢谢！
[14:19] <Freebuilder> onlylove_, 完蛋了
[14:19] <Freebuilder> onlylove_, 必须要 pa
[14:26] <Freebuilder> 算了，先且不听声音，问题总会解决的
[15:13] <happyaron> onlylove_: 你这网络还没有搞好？
[15:40] <ehlim> ////part
[15:41] <xingxingnet> hi
[15:41] <ubrl> xingxingnet:点点点. 23:44
[15:42] <xingxingnet> shu ru fa you gua le
[15:42] <alvin_rxg> xingxingnet: [自動] *警告* Pinyin bu shi keyi yuedu de yuyan *cmr8Y^*！請配置好您的輸入法 或者使用 http://www.inputking.com/ 謝謝！
[15:42] <xingxingnet> 6666
[15:47] <xingxingnet> 坑死我了，升级15.10，好多东西都不正常了
[15:47] <cmdgy> 所以还是重新装一遍吧
[15:49] <xingxingnet> 现在还在安装中，不知道安装完啥德行
[15:50] <xingxingnet> 话说他是咋看出我用的拼音
[15:50] <cmdgy> 我也是吸取教训了。。升级后各种不正常
[15:50] <asdf2> 都这时间了还装系统，服了
[15:52] <xingxingnet> 也就现在有时间。
[15:53] <asdf2> 半夜了
[15:53] <xingxingnet> 如果一定要重装的话，一定换lts
[15:53] <xingxingnet> 不算晚
[15:54] <gebjgd> xingxingnet, ubuntu不用lts能用什么
[15:56] <xingxingnet> ....15.04和15.10都不是lts吧，手贱装了04
[15:57] <gebjgd> xingxingnet, 1404才是
[15:57] <xingxingnet> en
[15:57] <xingxingnet> 装完就后悔了
[15:58] <gebjgd> xingxingnet, 用debian才是正途
[15:58] <xingxingnet> ....
[15:59] <asdf2> debian稳定点
[16:00] <xingxingnet> 讨厌debian的镜像，4.7g。坑
[16:00] <xingxingnet> 不过确实，稳定最要命
[16:00] <gebjgd> asdf2, 不是点 是绝对稳定
[16:00] <asdf2> 那是附带软件设的了，有网络可以不下这
[16:00] <gebjgd> xingxingnet, netinstall
[16:01] <gebjgd> xingxingnet, 随便一个livecd就行
[16:02] <xingxingnet> 网络安装总出问题
[16:02] <xingxingnet> livecd。。。。
[16:02] <gebjgd> xingxingnet, 网络安装能出什么问题
[16:03] <xingxingnet> 没输入法和你们聊天好累
[16:03] <gebjgd> xingxingnet, fcitx
[16:04] <xingxingnet> 不过我用debian貌似时间好久以前了
[16:04] <gebjgd> xingxingnet, 我用了2年多了
[16:05] <xingxingnet> 升级的呢，fcitx挂了，还没法修，等升级完
[16:05] <gebjgd> xingxingnet, debian stable从来不挂
[16:06] <gebjgd> xingxingnet, 不知道什么叫挂
[16:06] <xingxingnet> ...
[16:07] <xingxingnet> 别勾搭我了，让我安安心新用ubuntu可好
[16:07] <cmdgy> 我只是好奇--debian相比ubuntu的劣势是什么呢
[16:07] <gebjgd> cmdgy, 没有Ubuntu傻瓜
[16:07] <gebjgd> xingxingnet, 作为Linux用户我负责的告诉你debian才是最好的发行版
[16:09] <cmdgy> debian有没有闭源显卡驱动呀？
[16:10] <cmdgy> gebjgd, .
[16:10] <gebjgd> cmdgy, 废话 debian jessie抽steam2年多了
[16:12] <xingxingnet> 刚刚我去差点抽死我，全屏狂闪
[16:13] <cmdgy> 等我的ubuntu下次再抽死掉。。就试试debian～
[16:16] <asdf2> 都弄啥都，我都好好的么咋出问题
[16:17] <asdf2> 谁有C语言的书呀
[16:21] <gebjgd> asdf2, 因为你不是重度用户
[16:22] <xingxingnet> 心累，还装不完
[16:23] <asdf2> 曾经我也是
[16:23] <gebjgd> asdf2, 现在win能用么
[16:23] <gebjgd> asdf2, 渣得一塌糊涂
[16:24] <xingxingnet> 你们都用啥软件上irc
[16:24] <asdf2> 我双系统，用win要重启呢
[16:26] <xingxingnet> 我上一次重装就是因为win居然把我的linux格掉了
[16:26] <xingxingnet> 格掉了...
[16:26] <asdf2> 要先装win再linux
[16:27] <xingxingnet> 我一直都是啊，上次win磁盘检查，就莫名其妙给格掉了
[16:30] <asdf2> 弄硬盘，习惯备份分区是好事
[16:31] <asdf2> 怎么进来有出去的呀
[16:31] <gebjgd> xingxingnet, Linux win各放一个硬盘不就行了
[16:31] <gebjgd> xingxingnet, 随便安装
[16:32] <xingxingnet> 不奇怪
[16:32] <asdf2> 我是各放一分区
[16:32] <xingxingnet> http://img.vim-cn.com/97/4633a08118501666dfa3ed66a6c00f8048233e.png
[16:32] <ubrl> ⇪ f: image/png
[16:33] <gebjgd> asdf2, 难道还放一个分区？
[16:33] <xingxingnet> 其实我不用win都可以。。但是我妈不行
[16:34] <asdf2> 近来我都是linux了
[16:35] <asdf2> 准备睡觉咯
[16:36] <xingxingnet> 晚安，我也快弄完了
[16:39] <daxingxing> :P
[16:40] <daxingxing> 2333
[16:40] <xingxingnet> ;
[16:41] <xingxingnet>
[16:42] <xingxingnet> la
[16:42] <gebjgd> xingxingnet, 你妈为什么不行
[16:42] <gebjgd> xingxingnet, 这年头有 linux android就够了
[16:42] <xingxingnet> 她并不想用linux
[16:44] <xingxingnet> 我说服不了她
[16:45] <daxingxing> 这是我的小号
[16:46] <gebjgd> xingxingnet, 有什么说服不了的
[16:47] <daxingxing> =-O
[16:49] <daxingxing> 反正我是无能为力
[16:51] <gebjgd> daxingxing, 我老婆用了7年的Linux了
[16:51] <gebjgd> daxingxing, 没有什么无能为力的 不提供win的支持
[16:51] <gebjgd> daxingxing, 完事
[16:51] <daxingxing> 够狠
[16:53] <gebjgd> daxingxing, 用了Linux 你就不会想win了
[16:54] <xingxingnet> icq这东西有人在用吗
[16:56] <xingxingnet> 。。。我去。他说我的更新取消
[16:56] <gebjgd> xingxingnet, qq这东西现在还有人用么
[16:56] <xingxingnet> 当然
[17:01] <gebjgd> xingxingnet, 你刚才的答案也是一样de
[17:03] <xingxingnet> o
[17:03] <xingxingnet> shui la
[17:04] <xingxingnet> wan an
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-app-devel
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[00:33] <jplatte> popey: I remember I read on my laptop something about there already being a ms2 build with debugging symbols. But I'm on my other computer now, and the server doesn't seem to log either.
[00:33] <jplatte> Do you have time to explain me how to install ms2 with debugging symbols right now?
[00:34] <popey> jplatte, i just noticed that we have debug symbol debian packages
[00:34] <popey> https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-031/+build/8228121
[00:34] <popey> jplatte, what version of mediascanner-2.0 is on your device?
[00:35] <popey> (my point being usually debug symbols are turned off in ppas, but it looks like the ppas that we use for building stuff for the phone has debugsymbols turned on, so yay)
[00:35] <popey> we just need to know what build of ms2 is on your phone, then find the matching dbgsym debs and I think you can install those on the phone and you're good
[00:35] <jplatte> mediascanner2.0:
[00:35] <jplatte> Installed: 0.107+15.04.20150922.1-0ubuntu1
[00:36] <popey> ok
[00:37] <popey> https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay/+packages?field.name_filter=mediascanner&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=
[00:37] <popey> it has them
[00:37] <popey> So, you _could_ make your device writable (sudo mount -o remount,rw /) on the device
[00:38] <jplatte> It's already writable ;)
[00:38] <popey> then wget those https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay/+files/libmediascanner-2.0-4-dbgsym_0.107%2B15.10.20150922.1-0ubuntu1_armhf.ddeb https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay/+files/mediascanner2.0-dbgsym_0.107%2B15.10.20150922.1-0ubuntu1_armhf.ddeb
[00:38] <popey> oh, and any other mediascanner related ddebs, install them and you can do your debugging I think?
[00:39] <jplatte> Install them like .deb's?
[00:39] <jplatte> dpkg -i?
[00:39] <popey> ya
[00:39] <popey> I think so, I don't do this often :)
[00:39] <jplatte> aaand nope
[00:39] <jplatte> dpkg -i seems to be correct
[00:39] <jplatte> but the versions are too recent
[00:40] <popey> they match yours..
[00:40] <jplatte> mediascanner2.0-dbgsym depends on mediascanner2.0 (= 0.107+15.10.20150922.1-0ubuntu1); however:
[00:40] <jplatte> Version of mediascanner2.0 on system is 0.107+15.04.20150922.1-0ubuntu1.
[00:40] <jplatte> wait I think I can find the right files myself ^^
[00:41] <popey> oh, sorry. my bad
[00:41] <jplatte> actually no
[00:42] <jplatte> there's only 0.108 for vivid and 0.108 for wily
[00:42] <jplatte> Or am I missing something?
[00:42] <popey> it will be in a ppa somewhere I imagine
[00:42] <jplatte> Will check if there's an update for mediascanner in the repos
[00:42] <popey> unless replaced by newer
[00:42] <popey> tbh if you grab a slightly newer ms2, you probably still have the bug :)
[00:42] <jplatte> Yeah
[00:42] <popey> but yeah, the phone is all vivid based, so get vivid builds
[00:43] <jplatte> okay, so I'll add this PPA?
[00:44] <jplatte> aahh I can't even find the ppa id / name thing for "Stable Phone Overlay PPA" inside launchpad
[00:44] <jplatte> Oh wait I found the link
[00:44] <jplatte> in the breadcrumb menu thing
[00:44] <popey> the one above is the stable ppa yeah
[00:44] <jplatte> So I'll add ppa:ci-train-ppa-service/stable-phone-overlay ?
[00:44] <popey> not sure I'd do that
[00:45] <popey> I'd probably grab specific debs
[00:45] <jplatte> Nah
[00:45] <jplatte> Added the PPA :D
[00:45] <popey> hehe
[00:45] <popey> your phone :)
[00:45] <jplatte> the non-home stuff will be reset with the next OTA anyway, right=
[00:46] <jplatte> what?!
[00:46] <popey> right
[00:46] <jplatte> It doesn't want to update mediascanner after adding the ppa and apt-get update?
[00:46] <jplatte> Okay, is there a way to pull the ddeb from the ppa through apt now that I've added the ppa?
[00:47] <popey> what if you apt-get install mediascanner-2.0 specifically?
[00:47] <popey> also, what does apt-get policy mediascanner-2.0 think
[00:47] <jplatte> is already the latest version, was set to manually installed
[00:47] <jplatte> you mean apt-cache
[00:47] <popey> yes
[00:48] <jplatte> Huh interesting
[00:48] <jplatte> It shows the later version from the ppa
[00:48] <popey> and apt-get upgrade doesn't offer it?
[00:48] <popey> might be that something is pinned
[00:48] <meles> can somebody help me what to do when ubuntu-emulator fails with /lib/init/init-d-script: 12: /etc/rc2.d/S02whoopsie: -c: not found; basename: missing operand?
[00:49] <jplatte> hahaha if I tell apt-get to specifically install the 0.108 version, it wants to remove some system packages
[00:49] <jplatte> or at least the ubuntu-touch meta package
[00:49] <popey> yeah, I'd grab the debs :)
[00:49] <jplatte> Nope, that will only be worse
[00:50] <jplatte> because then I'll install with dpkg which doesn't even care whether something breaks, it just installs stuff
[00:50] <jplatte> I'll figure this out
[00:50] <popey> ok
[00:50] * popey turns into a pumpkin
[00:51] <popey> goodnight
[00:51] <jplatte> good night
[00:53] <jplatte> aand figured it out
[00:54] <jplatte> for some reason I had to manually tell apt-get the versions of three mediascanner packages so it would actually upgrade them all instead of removing the ones where the old version depended on one of the other packages old versions
[00:54] <jplatte> (sudo apt-get install mediascanner2.0=0.108+15.04.20151102-0ubuntu1 libmediascanner-2.0-3=0.108+15.04.20151102-0ubuntu1 qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-mediascanner0.1=0.108+15.04.20151102-0ubuntu1)
[00:55] <jplatte> Installed the ddebs for all of them, to make sure
[00:56] <jplatte> actually not the qt thing, there are none for that
[01:02] <jplatte> So, about this...
[01:02] <jplatte> > popey: tbh if you grab a slightly newer ms2, you probably still have the bug :)
[01:03] <jplatte> Nope. Seems like it's fixed!
[01:03] <popey> \o/
[01:03] * popey goes back to sleep
[01:03] <jplatte> That probably doesn't mean the code now looks any better than before (I really had never seen goto and exception-for-flow-control used in the same function)
[01:04] <jplatte> Buutt for me as a user it's glorious :D
[09:28] <mcphail> Anyone around from the SDK team? I think the QML/QMake template might be broken. I can't get it to make a .click as it can't seem to find the .desktop file
[11:53] <pynurzhan> qml-ubuntu-ui-devs, please i need your help. how i can define minimum and maximum date in PickerPanel. https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04.1/Ubuntu.Components.PickerPanel/
[13:15] <mcphail> Any appdevs around from the SDK team? I think the QML/QMake template might be broken. I can't get it to make a .click as it can't seem to find the .desktop file
[17:40] <snizzo> is it possible to send a path to be opened to a generic "file manager" application?
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-devel
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[00:02] <psusi> I'm guessing it is because gnupg-agent depends on pinentry-curses | pinentry
[00:03] <psusi> and apt evaluated that first and so selected the curses version, which then satisfied gnome-keyring
[00:07] <cjwatson> in xenial it just outright Depends: pinentry-gnome3
[12:50] <Guest84389> Hi, is there a reason that starting from libpython3.4-dev (3.4.3) there is no libdir variable set in the pkg-config?
[14:10] <ari-tczew> cyphermox: I'm just looking on changes happened in network-manager. I noticed that in merge version 0.9.10-4 you got "Don't have network-manager Depend on adduser.", but in the next merge 1.0.4 such change doesn't exist anymore. Could you check that one?
[16:07] <__marco> Hi where should I ask for a package removal?
[16:09] <sladen> __marco: launchpad
[16:09] <sladen> __marco: but it's probably easier if you say what package it might be ;-)
[16:09] <__marco> virtualbricks
[16:09] <__marco> http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/virtualbricks
[16:10] <__marco> That version is so old that could be considerate obsolete
[16:11] <sladen> https://packages.debian.org/jessie/virtualbricks seems to the same version as in Debian ?
[16:11] <sladen> (both 0.6.352-1)
[16:11] <sladen> __marco: what's the plan for Debian?
[16:11] <__marco> yes, but a new version should be uploaded soon
[16:12] <__marco> I contacted the Debian maintainer and he will upload the new version as soon as he has time
[16:12] <sladen> so to avoid breaking people's systems, and save work overall, would it make more sense to wait a couple of weeks and have it synced from Debian
[16:13] <__marco> will the versions in willy and xenial updated as well?
[16:14] <__marco> I mean, now that willy is releases, will a new version of a package accepted?
[16:16] <__marco> otherwise waiting few weeks is not a problem at all
[16:20] <sladen> __marco: it will get auto-synced to Xenial
[16:21] <sladen> __marco: if there is a significant-enough reason (major bugs/non-functionality) then one can apply for an SRU (Stable Release-Update) to get it into wily
[16:22] <sladen> __marco: there are occasional removals, but it's got to be a pretty strong reason. For example bittorrent after the protocol changes and the other clients became /useless/
[16:22] <sladen> __marco: being old on its own it's really reason enough, if it still works
[16:23] <sladen> __marco: because users, by choosing a release, rather than the development pre-release are after stability
[16:26] <xnox> cjwatson: sigh =)
[16:26] * xnox wishes that e.g. with dgit support these things can be auto-detected and auto-generated.....
[16:27] <__marco> sladen: that version is full of bugs :). It never worked really and only cause of trouble to our users.
[16:28] <infinity> So backport the bugfixes.
[16:29] <__marco> The new version is the bugfix. It is (mostly) compatible with the old one
[16:29] <infinity> Yeah. That right there isn't suitable for an SRU.
[16:30] <infinity> We don't take new versions just to fix bugs in *stable* releases. Stable means "stable interfaces and behaviour", not "free of bugs".
[16:30] <infinity> So, to fix bugs in a stable, you need to fix the bugs, not pull in a whole new version willy-nilly.
[16:31] <__marco> a version is just a number. Pull the changes and you get the same interface and the same behaviour without the bugs
[16:34] <infinity> You literally just used the evasive phase "(mostly) compatible".
[16:34] <infinity> So, it's not "just a number".
[16:34] <infinity> s/phase/phrase/
[16:38] <__marco> we had few compatibility issues that we fixed. The problem is that the users of the old version are so few that our tests weren't enough. But will continue to work to improve that aspect
[16:38] <__marco> a non-compatibility is a bug
[16:42] <__marco> The major problem with that version in ubuntu is that "irritate" our users. Most of them never seen linux and a terminal. They do not understand what a repository is and how to install a specific version of a package
[16:43] <__marco> when they do `apt-get install virtualbrick` and "it does not work, the program hangs", it is our fault for them
[16:43] <infinity> So submit patches to fix the hangs?
[16:43] <__marco> it does not matter if they just installed the wrong version
[16:44] <infinity> We do this sort of thing all the time, there's no reason you need hundreds of commits to fix a few bugs.
[16:45] <__marco> because the whole structure of the program was fragile and, if you will, I am such a good programmer to fix all of those problem in few commits
[16:47] <__marco> I am sorry but I will try to backport the new version to willy and, if it will not work, I will try to remove it
[17:05] <sladen> __marco: "whole structure of the program was fragile", this is why backport small eyeball-able fixes, instead of "just taking the new release"
[17:06] <sladen> __marco: patches to fix bugs fully greeted with enthusiasm (both here, and in Debian---file in Launchpad/debbugs with minimal diff and precisely attributable to the bug it fixes)
[17:07] <sladen> __marco: the crucial difference is bug fix vs. new features
[17:08] <sladen> __marco: yes, it's tempting to put new good stuff in, but that doesn't keep the bug fixes trackable, nor achieve interface/library stability---which is the reason people choose "a release" (even if they don't know it)
[17:15] <__marco> So looks really simple I will more than happy to do it if only I could. The cause of such hangs was a wrong use of threads. Many of commits are the attempt to fix it. I looks to work, until the program hanged one time more
[17:17] <__marco> And fix threads problems is not so easy. "That threads should do something and use a library which is not threadsafe but have to use it to achieve that"
[17:17] <__marco> so a new core was born which does not use threads. It this a feature o a bug fix?
[17:19] <__marco> And all the refactoring, is splitting a function in two a feature or a bug fix?
[17:20] <__marco> I am not trying to teach you your work nor trying to be an asshole. Just we think that that version should be not used by anyone. And not just because we want so.
[17:22] <__marco> We never thought that it could be part of Ubuntu. That was our main mistake
[17:22] <__marco> Because, I could prove it, it will not work in Ubuntu
[17:25] <__marco> s/will/does/
[17:29] <__marco> but anyway, I want to thank you to bear with me and show me such a big problem
[17:29] <__marco> :)
[18:25] <cyphermox> ari-tczew: IIRC it's unimportant, it's just that adduser gets used in debian to add the user to netdev, which we don't use in ubuntu. so I suspect it was just forgotten
[20:46] <ari-tczew> morphis: are you going to merge network-manager? I've partially done
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-ops
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break into computer. ikonia
[11:09] <bazhang> I read that as 'break into ikonia 's computer'
[11:09] <bazhang> @random doit dontdoit HURD
[11:14] <ikonia> bazhang: he'd be welcome to
[11:19] <bazhang> ikonia, talk about worst ideas of all time, thats like trying to defeat sauron with a decoder ring from a cracker jack box
[11:19] <ikonia> he may get lucky
[11:20] <bazhang> sounds like a clint eastwood challenge
[11:21] <bazhang> 'do ya feel lucky'
[11:21] <ikonia> his level of research made me feel easy about the challange
[11:21] <bazhang> haha
[15:55] <iceman_> hi i have a problem
[15:55] <iceman_> it keep telling me that im banned from #ubuntu
[15:55] <ikonia> hello there
[15:55] <ikonia> lets have a look why iceman_ can you give me a minute or two please
[15:55] <iceman_> ok
[15:56] <ikonia> iceman_: found the ban, won't keep you a minute
[15:57] <iceman_> ?
[15:57] <iceman_> can i join #ubuntu again?
[15:57] <ikonia> not yet, hang on please
[15:57] <iceman_> ok
[16:00] <ikonia> so it appears a person caled Dragos has been a problem in the ubuntu channels from your domain
[16:00] <ikonia> and as a result he got your domain black listed
[16:01] <ikonia> which appears to be you
[16:01] <ikonia> sorry
[16:02] <ikonia> so I don't think you can be unbanned from ubuntu
[16:02] <iceman_> why?
[16:02] <ikonia> because you've been a problem in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic multiple times before
[16:02] <iceman_> what happened?
[16:02] <ikonia> so it's easier to not let you use the channels
[16:02] <ikonia> rather than baby sit you
[16:03] <iceman_> ok my brother will not have permition to my laptop anymore :(
[16:03] <ikonia> it's not your brother
[16:03] <ikonia> it's you
[16:03] <ikonia> so please find other channels
[16:03] <ikonia> bye
[16:04] <iceman_> i need to share my laptop with my brother and i think he spammed these ircs
[16:04] <ikonia> no, he didn't
[16:04] <ikonia> you did
[16:04] <ikonia> we're done here, bye
[16:04] <iceman_> how do you know?
[16:04] <iceman_> i never used irc before
[16:06] <iceman_> hi
[16:08] <bazhang> iceman_, the ban stays
[16:08] <iceman_> why?
[16:08] <bazhang> iceman_, its your responsibility to control your hw
[16:09] <iceman_> what do i need to do to remove the ban?
[16:09] <ikonia> nothing
[16:09] <bazhang> nothing
[16:09] <ikonia> find other channels,
[16:09] <iceman_> ;(
[16:09] <bazhang> the ban stays iceman_ please find another avenue of support
[16:09] <ikonia> the guys in #freenode can help you learn how to use IRC and search for channels
[16:10] <ikonia> there are also forums,
[16:10] <iceman_> forums never work
[16:10] <iceman_> forums never works
[16:10] <ikonia> good luck going forward,
[16:10] <bazhang> askubuntu.com works
[16:10] <bazhang> and works very well
[16:10] <bazhang> go there iceman_
[16:10] <ikonia> a good suggestion
[16:11] <iceman_> can i get just 1 more chanse?
[16:12] <ikonia> n
[16:12] <ikonia> no
[16:12] <ikonia> you've burnt a few now,
[16:12] <ikonia> so best to move on
[16:12] <iceman_> :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:
[16:12] <iceman_> (:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
[16:13] <iceman_> :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:
[16:13] <iceman_> (:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
[16:13] <ikonia> thanks for proving the point
[16:13] <iceman_> :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
[16:13] <bazhang> his brother just got up!
[16:13] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu-ops iceman_ proven poor behaviour was not his brother
[16:13] <iceman_> hi
[16:14] <ikonia> hello again
[16:14] <iceman_> xd
[16:14] <iceman_> xD
[16:14] <iceman_> xD
[16:14] <iceman_> xD#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro
[16:14] <iceman_> #ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubun
[16:14] <iceman_> tu-ro
[16:14] <ikonia> what do you wnt now ?
[16:14] <iceman_> #ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro
[16:14] <iceman_> #ubuntu-ro#ubuntu-ro
[16:14] <iceman_> #ubuntu-ro
[16:14] <iceman_> #ubuntu-ro
[16:43] <bazhang> chibapet came back to crow/gloat?
[16:43] <ikonia> yeah
[16:44] <DJones> s/crow/make a prat of themselves/
[16:44] <ikonia> he's trying to brag to ##slackware about it
[16:45] <DJones> That'll go down well in there, if you're not using slackware, you get short shift in there, asking about anything normally gets quite a bit ofabuse
[18:12] <pikaaaa> hiya
[18:12] <ikonia> hello there
[18:13] <pikaaaa> a guy called ikonia is banning for no reason o___O
[18:13] <ikonia> no, I'm not
[18:13] <pikaaaa> can someone look into it please
[18:13] <ikonia> I'm banning you for being a problem, and evading a ban
[18:13] <pikaaaa> i evaded a ban?
[18:13] <ikonia> yes, you did
[18:13] <pikaaaa> how so?
[18:13] <ikonia> as you said you would when I banned you the first time
[18:13] <ikonia> or suggested as much
[18:14] <pikaaaa> and why was i ban in first place
[18:14] <ikonia> because you cause a problem
[18:14] <pikaaaa> what is "problem"
[18:14] <pikaaaa> are you holding a personal grudge?
[18:14] <ikonia> your contribution to the ubuntu channels you join
[18:14] <ikonia> nope
[18:15] <ikonia> hence why I ignored your ban evasion and tried to get you to stay in the channel
[18:15] <pikaaaa> how can i cause a problem in ubuntu-offtopic?
[18:15] <ikonia> with your attitude
[18:15] <pikaaaa> what was the problem?
[18:15] <ikonia> initially you joined after being banned from ubuntu to call me a noob and stress you could get around the ban,
[18:15] <pikaaaa> first of i have a dynamic ip
[18:16] <pikaaaa> everytime i connect to internet i get a new ip
[18:16] <ikonia> you then evaded the ban which I ignored, made poor contributions, started swearing, I asked you not to, you chose to argue, I tried again, you continued to argue
[18:16] <pikaaaa> i did not ban evade
[18:16] <ikonia> 11:43 < pikaaaa> hahahahah ikonia is a noob
[18:16] <ikonia> 11:43 < pikaaaa> i am using proxy to connect :)))
[18:16] <ikonia> lets not mess around shall we
[18:16] <ikonia> you know what you're doing
[18:16] <ikonia> so stop playing inocent and games
[18:16] <pikaaaa> what is that?
[18:16] <ikonia> what you said in the channel earlier
[18:18] <pikaaaa> that proves he is holding a personal grudge
[18:18] <ikonia> ?
[18:18] <pikaaaa> please remove ban and ask not to persist with it
[18:18] <pikaaaa> we need to know why you ban in the first place
[18:18] <ikonia> the ban will not be removed at this time.
[18:18] <ikonia> I told you why I set the ban in the first place
[18:19] <pikaaaa> not paste things from ubuntu-offtopic
[18:19] <DJones> pikaaaa: You've been abusive to channel ops, delliberatly avoided a ban, bragged about avoiding the ban, why do you think a ban would be removed
[18:19] <pikaaaa> DJones, no no no
[18:19] <pikaaaa> DJones, i didnt do that all that
[18:19] <DJones> pikaaaa: And lied about it
[18:19] <pikaaaa> DJones, let me explain
[18:19] <bazhang> pikaaaa, theres nothing to discuss
[18:20] <DJones> pikaaaa: No, please leave the channel, as ikonia said, the ban will not be removed at this time
[18:20] <pikaaaa> what happened was this guy banned me from ubuntu. reason not given
[18:20] <pikaaaa> so when i was in offtopic i said he banned the ip but i have a dynamic ip
[18:21] <pikaaaa> noob is not abusive cmon now
[18:21] <pikaaaa> ask him why he ban in first place
[18:21] <bazhang> pikaaaa, we know why
[18:21] <bazhang> pikaaaa, the discussion is over the ban stands
[18:21] <pikaaaa> in my defence i would say if i was to avoid ban , i would use a different name to connect
[18:21] <pikaaaa> but i didnt
[18:22] <pikaaaa> cos my intention was not to avoid ban like he claims
[18:23] <pikaaaa> he is using personal grudge and his powers to do wrong
[18:23] <pikaaaa> now i know you will not directly unban me
[18:23] <DJones> pikaaaa: So, you know you have a dynamic ip, but rejoined when it changed. Why didn't youjoin the channel you're linked to when banned to discuss the ban, rather than just ignoring it
[18:23] <pikaaaa> the client auto joins channels
[18:23] <ikonia> lets be real, proxy is not a dynamic IP
[18:24] <ikonia> I'm a noob as I can't ban him as he's using a proxy
[18:24] <bazhang> pikaaaa, theres no grudge multiple ops saw and agree
[18:24] <ikonia> is very different to "I have a dynamic IP"
[18:24] <pikaaaa> anyways
[18:24] <pikaaaa> so as i was saying i know you will not admit and directly remove the ban
[18:24] <ikonia> ok, then we are done
[18:25] <ikonia> leave the channel
[18:25] <pikaaaa> but atleast you can remove the ban from offtopic
[18:25] <DJones> pikaaaa: There's nothing for us to admit, you've admitted ban evading, you've bragged about ban evading. What do you expect?
[18:25] <pikaaaa> i wasnt done
[21:24] <k1l> NUCKFIGGERS ([email protected])
[21:24] <k1l> that is that brandom pm and troll nicks guy again
[21:27] <DJones> Joined #freenode and immediately asked for a cloak
[21:27] <DJones> 21:24 < NUCKFIGGERS> lol I just got banned from Ruby channel for saying js is the best language
[21:28] <k1l> obvious troll
[21:28] <DJones> Yep
[21:29] <DJones> Network wide troll, but channels are left to deal withh them themselves
[21:30] <k1l> a classic freenode
[21:30] <DJones> network wide as in #ruby, #ubuntu, #freenode (thats counts as a network issue to me)
[21:30] <DJones> k1l: Yep
[21:30] <Unit193> To be fair, there doesn't appear to be any staff around anyway.
[21:31] <DJones> Unit193: Whats new?
[21:31] <DJones> Even when around, they just give personal abuse or ignore it
[21:32] <Unit193> A lot of the time, aye.
[21:33] <DJones> Current and regular staffers don't appearto appreciate the freenode policy
[21:33] <Unit193> Wonder how many actually can't do it.
[21:35] <DJones> Not sure, but having seen staffers being highly offensive (to the point of abuse), I'm hoping the ubuntu channels will move to another network
[21:45] <Unit193> Eww, no.
[21:45] <Unit193> FWIW, there are still some great staffers.
[21:49] <DJones> Sadly, they're never online durine european timzones
[21:54] <Unit193> That is to say, OFTC and Freenode are the main two Open Source networks, and of those two I like Freenode technically speaking better.
[21:55] <DJones> I've never been on OFTC, so can't compare
[21:59] <Flannel> k1l: I presume you're talking with him in a query? If not, don't quiet, just kick/ban (quiets are confusing)
[21:59] <k1l> yep, asked him in pm. but got no answer so far
[22:00] <Flannel> Alrighty. Carry on then! :)
[22:00] <DJones> Unit193: I would refer to tinyhippo as being a freenode op who is abusive to users
[22:01] <Unit193> Not delt with him. My biggest interaction is with ni ko, but not actually as staff (super helpful, though!)
[22:01] <DJones> Having seem tell a user to go f themselves (or something similar) in #freenode
[22:02] <Unit193> DJones: Delt with c? More helpful. Was that a user or troll? (not that it's great either way..)
[22:02] <DJones> No, they're online when I'm around
[22:04] <DJones> s/ online/never online/
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ubuntu-chat
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"channel": "#ubuntu-ops"
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-us-oh
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[07:21] <linuxn00b1> hello
[07:22] <Unit193> At 2am?
[07:22] <Unit193> Howdy.
[07:24] <linuxn00b1> is 2 am late? i usually stay up until 5 lol
[07:32] <Unit193> I try to get to sleep before 4am, it doesn't always happen.
[07:46] <linuxn00b1> yeah i try to get to bed by 2 lol. it never happens.
[07:47] <linuxn00b1> yesterday i stayed up until 7 am
[07:47] <Unit193> Sometimes means I get anywhere from 4-2 hours of sleep...
[07:48] <linuxn00b1> that sucks. i usually still get at least get 6. i work second shift. lol
[07:49] <Unit193> well on top I don't sleep well, so can be fun.
[07:51] <linuxn00b1> i don't either. i usually toss and turn.
[07:53] <Unit193> So what brings you to -us-oh?
[07:56] <Unit193> Building isos now, fun times...
[07:57] <linuxn00b1> well i live in ohio. figured this would be a good chat to join lol.
[07:58] <linuxn00b1> plus i'm trying to wrap my mind completely around computer literacy. learn a crap load more than i know now
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-mythtv
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[22:01] <qwebirc64455> hello
[22:03] * qwebirc64455 slaps SteveGoodey around a bit with a large fishbot
[22:04] <qwebirc80650> is anyone here?
[22:04] <qwebirc80650> I need help
[22:06] <qwebirc80650> I've tried installing the latest Mythbuntu 14.04.2 but I get to a point where it says "MythTV could not connect to the database" and keeps cycling arround.
[23:11] <qwebirc80650> I've tried installing the latest Mythbuntu 14.04.2 but I get to a point where it says "MythTV could not connect to the database" and keeps cycling arround. Any ideas?
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ubuntu-chat
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"qwebirc64455",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-mythtv"
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2015-11-08-#launchpad
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[00:00] <samson-uo> If I have several versions I'd like people to try, is it better to put them in one PPA or have multiple PPAs?
[00:07] <wgrant> samson-uo: Each PPA can only publish a single version of a particular package in each series.
[00:07] <samson-uo> ah
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:34.054050
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"samson-uo",
"wgrant"
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2015-11-08-#kubuntu
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[00:12] <Fritigern> What the... I just rebooted my machine and my .config doesn't seem to be read. Icons are missing or icons from the humaniy set are used. Also stuff requires a double-click to open now. The hec is going on??? .config and .local are still there, and are accessible, and have the proper perms and owner
[00:49] <Fritigern> Well now. I renamed .config in an attempt to restore default settings, but the icons are still MIA
[00:49] <Fritigern> The icons being from the Breeze theme
[00:55] <willief> cant get logged into new install of 15.10 with plasma
[00:55] <willief> enter passwd, hit return, screen blanks for few secs then kicks me back to login screen
[01:07] <skierpage_> willief: you could try switching to a terminal (Alt-Ctrl-F1), see if you can login from that, and if so start looking for errors.
[01:08] <willief> Im trying that with jasonvw in #kde right now
[01:09] <skierpage_> willief: OK, good luck. In `journalctl` look for "dm" (I can't remember if Kubuntu uses lightdm, or kdm, etc. as its greeter), there should be some error somewhere
[01:09] <willief> what is the KDM display managere service called I thought it was kdm but service stop kdm fails and I dont see an obv alternative
[01:10] <willief> journalctl.... god
[01:10] <willief> err good hint .... thx
[01:10] <skierpage_> willief: it's OK ;) ... beats grinding through all the /var/log stuff (assuming all the /var/log routes into journalctl)
[01:12] <willief> it's sddm btw
[01:15] <Fritigern> Anyone, no suggestions for my issue?
[01:18] <Fritigern> Switching icon themes does not work. I tried that but nothing happens. Missing icons remain missing, and the rest are Humanity iconsw. I want my Breeze icons back!
[01:22] <Fritigern> Ah, the joys of being ignored
[02:01] <chrisb2244> willief: Do you have /home mounted separately from your kde/sddm install?
[02:02] <chrisb2244> Or rather, is your $HOME directory potentially not mounted when you login? That can cause a similar sounding problem for me. Probably this isn't your problem, but worth a check
[04:03] <Guest41027> I have a dual boot PC...windows won't boot, a certain AVAST file is preventing it from loading....I am on kubuntu at the moment, is it possible to remove avast while using linux on my windows partition?
[04:05] <Finetundar> Guest41027: yes, you'll have to delete AVAST's install folder
[04:06] <Guest41027> Finetundar: Okay. I'll try that!
[04:06] <Finetundar> Guest41027: do you know where installed?
[04:07] <Guest41027> Finetundar: I do not.
[04:07] <Guest41027> Finetundar: I am googling it to see if I can find that answer.
[04:15] <toby_> Finetundar: Okay, I deleted those files. That error is gone, now I get "Invalid Partition Table" are you familiar with this?
[04:40] <skierpage_> command-line install completed. Rebooting, wish me luck!
[08:59] <Eluus> in the open file dialog in most programs, usb drives are not visible, how can I fix that?
[08:59] <Eluus> kubuntu 15.10
[09:48] <lexxus-lex> lsusb
[09:48] <lexxus-lex> dmegs
[09:48] <Swipe-> Anyone else having continuous problems with kmail in 15.10/
[09:51] <Swipe-> if any fixes are released with akonadiserver would they get pushed out via the normal system updates?
[10:24] <h_boyz> !list
[10:39] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:41] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:53] <veqz> I'm on Kubuntu 15.10 and have a laptop with one of those combined Intel & Nvidia graphics. Is Nouveau the only driver which will work for that combination? My screen sometimes starts to lag while doing normal desktop things (watching video, moving mouse around, typing, etc.), and I have been trying the proprietary drivers, but they don't seem to work, and I always have to revert to Nouveau from a console. Nouveau seemed to work smoothly on 15.
[12:53] <veqz> 04 however, so I'm really confused about what the problem is...
[12:54] <veqz> anyone have any clues?
[12:55] <soee_> proprierty drivers dont work in 15.10 with nvidia-prime
[12:55] <BluesKaj> veqz, how do you mean the proprietary drivers don't work ?
[12:55] <veqz> what's nvidia-prime?
[12:56] <BluesKaj> nvidia-prime shouild be installed by default anyway
[12:56] <veqz> when rebooting, the screen remains blank. I go to a terminal (Ctrl+Alt+F1) and uninstall nvidia stuff, and reinstall x and nouveau, and after a reboot I'm up and running again
[12:57] <veqz> I had to use Nouveau on 15.04 as well, so I don't have any real complaints about it, except for in 15.10, where it tends to suddenly lag for a second every ~5-30 seconds
[12:58] <BluesKaj> veqz, make sure as soee_ says that nvisia-prime is installed, if not install it, then install the proprietary driver. It's a hit and miss with theose hybrid gpus systems
[12:58] <veqz> just apt-get install nvidia-prime?
[12:59] <BluesKaj> yes with sudo
[12:59] <veqz> hm. seems it wasn't installed
[13:00] <veqz> so should I try just going to the Driver Management in System Settings and choosing one of the binary nvidia drivers and see if it goes better this time?
[13:01] <soee_> BluesKaj: it wont work
[13:01] <BluesKaj> soee_, I've seen it work a few times
[13:01] <soee_> we can't use proprierty drivers in 15.10, Ubuntu simply is broken in this part
[13:02] <veqz> what's changed since 15.04?
[13:02] <BluesKaj> veqz, you're on 15.04 right ?
[13:02] <veqz> no 15.10
[13:02] <BluesKaj> oh
[13:02] <soee_> in 15.04 - yes it worked fine, they broke it in 15.10
[13:03] <veqz> should I uninstall nvidia-prime again? :)
[13:05] <soee_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/1501041
[13:05] <veqz> hm ok
[13:06] <soee_> well you can have nvidia-prime and drivers installed
[13:06] <soee_> but just use intel profile
[13:06] <BluesKaj> veqz, seems you need to regress to 15.04 then. I still use 14.04LTS as my main OS
[13:06] <soee_> if they fix it some day, than switch to nvidai profile
[13:08] <veqz> hm okay
[13:08] <soee_> BluesKaj: i like to use latest releaes to test all the new stuff but you are right, if someone want stable system, he should stick to LTS
[13:09] <veqz> I'm rather loath to reinstall my OS again, so I guess I'll reconsider it if I can't find some way to live with this
[13:09] <BluesKaj> soee_, I have both a test OS/16.04, and a stable OS 14.04LTS
[13:10] <veqz> is there any procedure to try and hunt down why nouveau seems to lag a bit? and logs I can check?
[13:11] <BluesKaj> veqz, there's no real sacrifice running 15.04 vs 15.10, there's not much difference except your Optimus gpu syatem works
[13:11] <BluesKaj> that's my opinion of course
[13:12] <veqz> I'd still have to reinstall though, and be stuck with Plasma 5.3 iirc...
[13:19] <BluesKaj> veqz, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/08/install-kde-plasma-plasma-5-4/
[13:21] <veqz> thanks. that seems helpful if I do decide to go back to 15.04
[13:53] <Artlu> Hi! I'm having issues with my sound devices. I have a laptop internal sound card, and an USB headset. And when trying to set the input to the USB device, it uses the internal sound card. Also when I select the internal sound card, it also uses it. So there is no possibility to use the USB device, it's always using the internal device.
[13:54] <Artlu> I already tried to delete every .pulse and gstreamer config directories, but it didn't help.
[13:54] <Artlu> any chance of fixing this?
[13:56] <Artlu> kubuntu version is 15.10 by the way (upgraded from 15.04, but the issue also occured with 15.04)
[14:15] <BluesKaj> Artlu, so you have no sound at the usb port, correct ?
[14:16] <Artlu> BluesKaj: Playback works, but when I try to use the USB device for sound capturing, it's using the internal laptop sound card
[14:18] <Artlu> BluesKaj: However, both capture devices (internal and USB) are getting displayed in KMix and I can select both in any program, but there's no difference whether I choose the internal card or the USB device
[14:19] <BluesKaj> Artlu, so you expqaec the usb device to work as a sound card ?
[14:19] <BluesKaj> expect rather
[14:22] <Artlu> BluesKaj: Of course, it's an USB headset, so for playback and recording. It also worked fine until a few days ago.
[14:27] <BluesKaj> Artlu, check as root, /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and make sure any usb options with a -2 index are either changed to a 0 or 1 , or you can comment them with a # then at the bottom there should be a line for usb that you can change from index=-2 to 0 or 1
[14:27] <BluesKaj> this used to work , but no guarantees
[14:28] <BluesKaj> unless of course your headset shows up in alsamixer F6 and you can choose it as card0 there
[14:29] <Artlu> Okay, thanks. I already tried commenting out everything snd-usb related, but there was no change. I can also try setting it to 1 manually.
[14:29] <BluesKaj> then do sudo alsactl store
[14:30] <BluesKaj> you have to reboot after changing the alsa-base conf file
[14:30] <Artlu> Yes, I can choose the device as the default device in alsamixer. number is 2. 0 is internal device, 1 is HDA NVidia, and 2 is my USB device
[14:32] <Artlu> so I'll reboot now and see if the changes in alsa-base.conf help. I'll let you know
[14:33] <BluesKaj> Artlu, you can move it up to the top in system settings>multimedia>device preference>music and test it there as well
[14:36] <Artlu> BluesKaj: still the same
[14:37] <BluesKaj> Artlu, you can move it up to the top in system settings>multimedia>device preference>music and test it there as well
[14:38] <BluesKaj> which audio chips are we dealing with here btw?
[14:40] <Artlu> Yeah, I already moved it to top for everything.
[14:40] <Artlu> How do I get the name for the sound devices?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> aplay -l is one
[14:41] <BluesKaj> lspci -nn | grep -i audio is another
[14:43] <BluesKaj> and for the audio drivers, cat /proc/asound/modules
[14:44] <Artlu> This is what I get with the 3 commands: https://paste.kde.org/pzguanqyw
[14:47] <BluesKaj> Artlu, ok, which audio player do you use?
[14:48] <Artlu> audio playback is working everywhere. VLC, chrome, firefox, teamspeak, skype, ... but recording is not working. I tried with TeamSPeak and audacity
[14:51] <BluesKaj> unfortunately I have very little experience with recording using headphones to monitor the audio
[14:52] <BluesKaj> especially usb 'phones
[14:53] <BluesKaj> are you using the spdif out to record ?
[14:53] <BluesKaj> Artlu,^
[14:54] <BluesKaj> oops to monitor rather
[14:54] <Artlu> I used Audacity and TeamSpeak for monitoring the recording. no spdif
[14:56] <BluesKaj> what is your recording setup ?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> Artlu, are you using mics or inputs from other devices or..?
[15:01] <Artlu> My laptop microphone is working fine. Only the headset microphone doesn't seem to work
[15:02] <Artlu> So whatever I choose as my input device, it always captures from my laptop microphone
[15:04] <BluesKaj> yes, usb audio devices can be a challenge, even the usb outboiard sound cards are difficult
[15:06] <somekool> is there special package to run KDE from recent git source? like RC or Alpha releases ?
[15:07] <alexandr> Доброго времени суток! В shutter проблема с кириллицей. Если русские имена окон, то отображаются крякозябры. Кубунту 15.10. Подскажите пожалуйста, в какую сторону копать?
[15:07] <Artlu> BluesKaj: It worked a few days ago, so I thought there are just some problems with the settings. Can I reset the sound settings to default somehow?
[15:07] <somekool> alexandr: I am not too sure, but 15.10 definitely sound good
[15:14] <BluesKaj> !ru | alexandr
[15:15] <BluesKaj> Artlu, did you upgrade packages ?
[15:17] <Artlu> BluesKaj: sure, I always install updates. But of course I don't remember every package which gets upgraded
[15:18] <BluesKaj> yes, understood, ..perhaps something in alsamixer has changed
[16:06] <Fleck> hey, is there a way to get back to KDE 4? plasma is such a crap :(
[16:09] <Smurphy> Fleck: Nope. reinstall Ubuntu 14.10.
[16:10] <Smurphy> Maybe you could uninstall all the plasma stuff, and get KDE installe. I don't know how to do it though.
[16:10] <Smurphy> I managed to get most non working things to work now, hence I'll keep it.
[16:11] <Fleck> it's slow, don't show systray icons and many more problems with it
[16:12] <Smurphy> Did you upgrade ?
[16:12] <Fleck> yep :(
[16:12] <Smurphy> in that case, go to: .config, and delete all plasma related stuff with: rm -fv plasma*
[16:13] <Fleck> aaand yes, also, two monitor setup, plasma does not rememmber my desktop settings :D
[16:13] <Fleck> ok, I can do that
[16:13] <Smurphy> before that, log out, when sddm shows up, Ctrl-Alt-F1, log in, and delete all the plasma related stuff out of .config as breviously explained.
[16:13] <Fleck> yes, yes, not so dumb :D
[16:13] <svend-ev> Good morning
[16:13] <Smurphy> Then, go back to sddm with: Alt-F7, log in, and it should put some plain defaults.
[16:14] <Smurphy> That's what I did.
[16:14] <Smurphy> Yo svend-ev
[16:14] <Fleck> I think I made new user and tried Smurphy, same problems were there :D
[16:14] <Smurphy> Then I don't know where it comes.
[16:15] <Fleck> I am so sad I did install plasma 5 ;(
[16:15] <Smurphy> you unter Ubuntu 15.10 ?
[16:15] <Fleck> yes, I have 15.10
[17:48] <Naizugai> How do I change the start of the week in the calendar?
[17:49] <Smurphy> In settings
[17:51] <Naizugai> Looked under "Regional Settings", but I don't see any option to change it. I'm running 15.10 btw.
[17:54] <steveire> Hey, I just upgraded to 15.10, and knode seems to be gone. aptitude show knode shows it, but attempting to install it has no effect...
[17:55] <steveire> Is that deliberate?
[17:56] <steveire> Damn, it's been deleted from kdepim :(
[18:11] <BluesKaj> steveire, yeah knode is no longer supported
[18:11] <steveire> Going to try to change that :)
[18:13] * BluesKaj wishes he could rid of pim altogether, along with akonadi and baloo
[18:13] <BluesKaj> useless to me
[19:27] <excalibr> Hmm the new icon sets from kubuntu-ci look sort of out of place with the default breeze theme
[19:31] <excalibr> http://i.imgur.com/ZSFXNZM.png
[19:38] <dougiel> how do I stop gui in 14.04
[19:38] <dougiel> trying to install nvidia drivers
[19:38] <Unit193> Drop to a TTY and sudo service lightdm stop ?
[19:39] <dougiel> Unit193, will try that from ssh login ok?
[19:39] <Unit193> Same deal, just not a terminal emulator.
[19:42] <ocnios> Testing
[19:50] <dougiel> so before I severely screw something up what is a difinitive method of installning nvidia drivers?
[19:50] <Unit193> Using jockey?
[19:52] <dougiel> using control panel now
[19:54] <dougiel> let see waht this piece of crap looks like now after a reboot
[20:13] <heinkel_111> hello
[20:13] <heinkel_111> I am installing kubuntu as second OS on my win8 PC
[20:14] <heinkel_111> both OSes work, but it automatically loads windows by default
[20:15] <heinkel_111> to start kubuntu I need to do it manually from BIOS setup screen
[20:15] <heinkel_111> hang on...I think I just found out what I need to do
[20:16] <soee_> :)
[20:16] <soee_> uo can edit grub configuration and change order
[20:17] <heinkel_111> it doesnt start grub, that is the problem, just loads windows directly
[20:17] <heinkel_111> but I think if I change boot device in BIOS that should do it
[20:18] <soee_> you have instaled Kubuntu after Windows ?
[20:18] <heinkel_111> yes
[20:18] <soee_> if grub was installed on different disk or not primary partition where probably mbr record is
[20:18] <dougiel> different HD
[20:18] <dougiel> ?
[20:18] <heinkel_111> as I said, both OSes work, so I should be pretty close to success
[20:21] <heinkel_111> grub is installed same partition as kubuntu
[20:24] <heinkel_111> seems this fixed it, it was that easy
[20:25] <heinkel_111> I am not as much of a hacker as I used to be, that must be the conclusion :-)
[22:15] <tute> hh
[22:15] <tute> ff
[22:42] <sam_> Hello. Is there any way to enable scrolling while moving the mouse inside of KDE Plasma windows? I can't seem to get it to work.
[22:49] <bprompt> sam_: what do you mean?
[22:56] <sam_> bprompt, when inside a terminal, or dolphin, or any plasma supplied GUI, mouse wheel scrolling isn't recognized unless I don't move the mouse. It however does work in third party applications like browsers
[23:00] <bprompt> hmm
[23:02] <bprompt> sam_: not sure you can enable it anymore than you can disable it either, is default setting for me for that matter
[23:02] <bprompt> sam_: and it's not in System Settings, because it's meant to be a default behaviour
[23:03] <sam_> Hmm, I figured. Well, thank you for your time!
[23:58] <Letr5ts> Simple firewall for KUbuntu - What is recommended?
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2015-11-08-#snappy
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[00:26] <vthompson> I watching one of the UOS sessions (http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22592/core-1511-snappy-developer-community-resources/) and was wondering if it'd be useful to have a snappy/core specific G+ community. The Ubuntu App Developers community has been very active at certain points in the past. Maybe that could be used to talk about snappy/core since they'll be one in the same in the future.
[00:40] <vthompson> Nm the above question, dholbach brought up making a G+ community in the video.
[03:03] <The_Letter_M> Hello.
[03:04] <The_Letter_M> I have snappy installed on a RasPi2 and I'm trying to get an ssh to it. I run "sudo snappy se ssh" and I get no results. How can I get an ssh session to it
[03:05] <The_Letter_M> NM
[03:05] <The_Letter_M> just found it in the docs
[03:08] <The_Letter_M> Is there a good reference for what commands are replaced with what in Snappy? Like I need to wget a file from the web and wget does not exist in snappy
[03:26] <The_Letter_M> Anyone?
[03:51] <The_Letter_M> Just curious, does anyone here use snappy outside of just what WebDM provides?
[11:38] <liuxg> woodrowshen, ping
[11:40] <liuxg> woodrowshen, would you please let me which armfh for ubuntu you are using for cross-building your snappy app. I just found that the image I was using golang installation got problem. thanks
[19:47] <meebo> hello
[19:47] <meebo> how can i help?
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-za
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[02:04] <Vlekkie> Hey
[04:22] <Vlekkie> Morning
[11:14] <Kilos> hi gremble Vlekkie and all others
[11:15] <Kilos> Vlekkie welcome to ubuntu-za
[11:15] <Kilos> jy kan ook die taal praat hier
[11:29] <theblazehen> Back later, swapping power supplies
[11:33] <gremble> Hey Kilos
[11:35] <Vlekkie> Ciao
[11:38] <Vlekkie> Hows it going, gremble?
[11:38] <gremble> Hey Vlekkie. I am well thanks and yourself?
[11:38] <theblazehen> hi Vlekkie, gremble, Kilos and others
[11:38] <gremble> Hey theblazehen
[11:39] <Kilos> hi theblazehen
[16:32] <Kilos> Maaz seen stickyboy
[16:32] <Maaz> Kilos: stickyboy was last seen 3 days, 22 hours, 44 minutes and 3 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-11-04 09:48:54 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-11-04 18:38:30 PST
[16:34] <Kilos> afternoon all of you
[16:35] <Kilos> you practising your geometry theblazehen
[16:35] <theblazehen> Kilos: Yeah :)
[16:35] <Kilos> good
[17:40] <superfly> Hi Kilos
[17:40] <Kilos> hi there superfly ,all well there?
[17:41] <superfly> I guess so.
[17:41] <superfly> Ek is eina
[17:41] <Kilos> wat nou?
[17:41] <superfly> Ek het in die son gebrand
[17:41] <Kilos> ai!
[17:42] <Kilos> rub vicks all over the burn superfly
[17:42] <Kilos> best thing for any burns
[17:42] <superfly> Die groot Karoo is nogal warm
[17:43] <Kilos> wat het jy daar gaan soek
[17:43] <gremble> Vicks? O.o
[17:43] <Kilos> ons gaan more 37°c wees
[17:43] <Kilos> vicks works gremble
[17:43] <gremble> Get some after sun with aloe >.>
[17:44] <Kilos> even stops scarring form other burns
[17:44] <gremble> Kilos: It would be like setting yourself on fire again XD
[17:44] <Kilos> no man
[17:44] <Kilos> vicks is wonderful stuff
[17:44] <superfly> We went to bury my gran
[17:44] <Kilos> aw sorry to hear that
[17:45] <superfly> On the family farm, next to grandpa
[17:45] <Kilos> shame
[17:45] <Kilos> sheep farmers?
[17:46] <superfly> Something like that. Oom Carel sold the farm in the 60's
[17:46] <Kilos> ah
[17:46] <superfly> The drought was too much
[17:47] <Kilos> yeah and this coming one is gonna be worse i think
[17:47] <Kilos> farmers really dont have things easy
[17:47] <superfly> They don't
[17:47] <superfly> Tough life
[17:48] <Kilos> yeah but very fullfilling imo
[17:48] <Kilos> i love farming
[17:49] <Kilos> not fun when you see things dying from drought though
[17:50] <Kilos> or when you get knocked head over heals by a large ram or bull
[19:32] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
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[00:37] <linuxn00b1> what is this chat for?
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2015-11-08-#kubuntu-devel
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[00:44] <clivejo> Why is this failing on LP, but building fine locally?
[00:44] <clivejo> dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libkdeconnectcore.so.0 needed by debian/kdeconnect/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plugins/kdeconnect/kdeconnect_clipboard.so (ELF format: 'elf64-x86-64'; RPATH: '')
[00:47] <clivejo> cant understand why it cant find it, when it installs it a few lines previous!
[00:47] <clivejo> -- Installing: /«BUILDDIR»/kdeconnect-0.9+git20151107/debian/tmp/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkdeconnectcore.so.0
[00:59] <clivejo> time for bed
[10:37] <soee> https://www.calligra.org/news/calligra-2-9-9-released/
[10:37] <soee> someone packaging it maybe ? )
[10:39] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:41] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[20:43] <yofel> Greetings!
[20:46] <clivejo> hi yofel
[20:46] <clivejo> you're alive!
[20:46] <clivejo> how was your celebrations?
[20:59] <yofel> clivejo: fun :)
[20:59] <clivejo> sore head ?
[21:00] <yofel> nope, I don't enjoy getting *that* drunk. Even if I got close ^^
[21:02] <clivejo> its been very quiet here without you!
[21:03] <yofel> really? I see some backlog, have to look through it
[21:04] <yofel> regarding libkdeconnectcore.so.0: is it installed in a *package* ?
[21:04] <yofel> dpkg will ignore files that aren't part of a built package
[21:06] <clivejo> ah that might be why!
[21:07] <clivejo> it is indeed
[21:08] <clivejo> thanks so much, Ive been reading stuff I have no clue about!
[21:10] <clivejo> do I need to put it in notinstalled?
[21:11] <yofel> no, in a package... I could pastebin the full buildlog?
[21:11] <clivejo> Ive just pushed it to LP
[21:11] <clivejo> removed it from kdeconnect.install
[21:13] <clivejo> yofel: the MakeFile is loking for a README file, but the author seems to have called it README.md
[21:13] <clivejo> I made two patches, one creates the README file and one deletes the README.md
[21:14] <clivejo> darn, failed again - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/225561074/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.kdeconnect_0.9%2Bgit20151107-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa5_BUILDING.txt.gz
[21:15] <yofel> wait
[21:16] <clivejo> Ive put some private libs into the .install file that shouldnt be there
[21:17] <yofel> well, what he's looking for are plugins, those can be in the main .install file
[21:17] <clivejo> is the makefile deleting that file - -- Removed runtime path from "/«BUILDDIR»/kdeconnect-0.9+git20151107/debian/tmp/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/kcm_kdeconnect.so"
[21:18] <yofel> cmake is doing that in our distro default settings
[21:41] <soee_> hmm shouldn;t there be new framerwosk already this month ?
[21:49] <clivejo> soee_: the old automation packaging is gone, I think santa is working on new stuff but no idea when its ready to start packaging it, maybe yofel has an update
[21:51] <yofel> plasma 5.4.3 tars are available since thursday, frameworks 5.16 since today. Nobody has worked on any of that so far I believe
[21:51] <clivejo> yofel: the automation stuff has gone from here - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+junk/kubuntu-automation/
[21:52] <clivejo> and we need new xenial branches in git?
[21:52] <yofel> clivejo: yes, it moved as I said in my mail to kubuntu-devel
[21:53] <yofel> some xenial branches are already there. The new tooling will have to create the rest
[21:54] <clivejo> hows that tooling coming along?
[21:54] <yofel> I have no idea what progress was done since thursday yet
[22:00] <pursuivant> muon (master) v5.4.2-176-g239961f * Aleix Pol: Messages.sh
[22:00] <pursuivant> Fix Messages.sh
[22:00] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/239961f77412d39ab006e67dd0c094c65351db4d
[22:04] <soee_> so we can't do any new stuff like 5.4.3 and fraeworks for Wily until the automation is back ?
[22:12] <yofel> well, we could do it using the old one, if someone wants to
[22:12] * yofel has more important things
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-br
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[00:01] <mmmrugby> boa noite, quero saber como instalar o ubuntu no mac sem o osx
[00:01] <astroo-> ola
[00:01] <mmmrugby> ola astro
[00:03] <astroo-> da uns 15 minutos pela possivel resposta de alguem
[00:03] <mmmrugby> ok, obrigado
[00:03] <mmmrugby> já segui varios tutoriais mas não consigo instalar
[00:03] <Geese_Howard> mmmrugby: onde travou?
[00:04] <Geese_Howard> mmmrugby: "não consegui é muito vago"
[00:05] <mmmrugby> ele termina a instalação, porem quando reinicia não encontra a partição para iniciar o linux. e só consigo acessar ela pelo dvd
[00:05] <Geese_Howard> mmmrugby: e no guia que você segue, o que é dito sobre isso?
[00:05] <mmmrugby> o mac fica com um pasta ricada no meio como se não encontrasse a partição de inicialização
[00:05] <mmmrugby> nada
[00:06] <Geese_Howard> "ricada" uati?
[00:06] <mmmrugby> riscada
[00:06] <Geese_Howard> mmmrugby: cara, você precisa rever o passo a passo que vocẽ seguiu
[00:06] <Geese_Howard> mmmrugby: aparentemente o bootloader não está correto
[00:07] <mmmrugby> o último foi da viva linux
[00:07] <Geese_Howard> mmmrugby: ao entrar/acessar via dvd você tentou reescrever novamente o bootloader manualmente?
[00:07] <mmmrugby> não
[00:08] <barna> mmmrugby, me passa o link?
[00:08] <mmmrugby> um minuto, por favor
[00:08] <barna> mmmrugby, eu estou pra fazer isso aki, um tecnico de mac me falow q tem q jogar o grub na partição gpt do mac
[00:09] <mmmrugby> só um minuto
[00:10] <nuno_nunes> ola
[00:10] <Geese_Howard> nuno_nunes: welcome back!
[00:10] <nuno_nunes> alguem precisa e ajuda
[00:10] <nuno_nunes> esta net wifi aff
[00:10] <nuno_nunes> :S
[00:10] <barna> o mmmrugby ta precisando de ajuda pra instalar um ubuntu num mac
[00:10] <nuno_nunes> é a net do vizinho
[00:10] <nuno_nunes> apple não é comigi
[00:10] <nuno_nunes> mac powerpc ou intel
[00:11] <barna> nuno_nunes, faz um antena wifi externa, tem vaaaaarios tutos na web, fiz uma aki q funfa blz!
[00:11] <mmmrugby> não, é no meu mac. porem eu estou no computador de um familiar para verificar io que deu de errado
[00:11] <mmmrugby> você pode me mandar o link
[00:11] <nuno_nunes> barna, eu etsou num notebook
[00:11] <mmmrugby> http://www.aprigiosimoes.com.br/2011/01/08/ubuntu-em-mac/
[00:11] <nuno_nunes> :S
[00:11] <mmmrugby> esse foi um dos
[00:11] <mmmrugby> vou pegar os outros
[00:11] <barna> antena wifi externa
[00:12] <nuno_nunes> barna, o problema nao é antena é o proprio router :D
[00:13] <nuno_nunes> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pdW4DAvJDM
[00:13] <barna> ai já é questão de junta
[00:13] <mmmrugby> http://www.ubuntudicas.com.br/blog/2014/02/como-instalar-o-ubuntu-num-mac-os-x/
[00:13] <nuno_nunes> eu nao tenho apple
[00:13] <mmmrugby> esse mostra que eu temnho que intalar um dual boot, mas meu mac está sem o osx instalado e não quero instalar
[00:13] <nuno_nunes> por isso nao vou ajudar
[00:14] <mmmrugby> obrigado nuno
[00:14] <nuno_nunes> eu so uso pcs normais
[00:14] <nuno_nunes> :(
[00:15] <barna> eu tb. :)
[00:15] <barna> :(*
[00:15] <mmmrugby> esse tutorial já fiz, mas quando termina a instalação ele só encherga o osx
[00:15] <barna> mmmrugby, eu não sei como o mac lida com as partições, mas deveria ter uma só de boot, vc apagou ela?
[00:16] <nuno_nunes> eu estou a pensar em instalar o mac num amd
[00:16] <mmmrugby> no momento apagueio o hd todo
[00:16] <mmmrugby> queria começar do zero
[00:16] <mmmrugby> mas instalar o osx é moleza
[00:17] <mmmrugby> tudo pela rede
[00:17] <nuno_nunes> :S
[00:17] <mmmrugby> como ele não tem bios, não sabe como inicializar uma partição bootavel
[00:18] <barna> mmmrugby, então deve estar ai o problema, pelo q pouco (quase nada) q sei, a "bios" do mac direciona o boot pra essa tal partição e não pode ser alterado. então acho q vc vai ter q recriar essa partição e instalar o grub nela
[00:18] <mmmrugby> o mac não tem ~bios
[00:19] <barna> ok, o XPTO do mec direciona pra essa tal partição
[00:20] <nuno_nunes> ele tem efi
[00:20] <mmmrugby> sim
[00:20] <nuno_nunes> como o uefi
[00:20] <nuno_nunes> :|
[00:20] <barna> kra, vamos parar de ficar discutindo o XPTO de qual o nome dado ao sistema q a placa mãe inicia e tentar resolver o problema?
[00:21] <mmmrugby> obrigado
[00:21] <barna> como eu falei antes, eu acho q vc vai ter q recriar essa tal partição pra poder instalar o grub nela
[00:22] <mmmrugby> no video tem que instalar um software para ele reconhecer, depois em uma part separada ele instala.
[00:22] <mmmrugby> assim que inicia esse software mostra qual partição vc quer iniciar
[00:23] <mmmrugby> porém, quando não tenho o osx, eu não instalo o software. Entrei aqui para ver se alguém sabe como resolver.
[00:23] <mmmrugby> talves tenha que ter o osx mesmo
[00:23] <mmmrugby> igual barna falou
[00:24] <barna> mmmrugby, vc tem o instalador do mac ai?
[00:24] <mmmrugby> instala pela rede. é só espetar o cabo de rede que ele instala
[00:24] <nuno_nunes> eu vou sair
[00:24] <mmmrugby> obrigado nuno
[00:24] <nuno_nunes> fiquem bem
[00:25] <nuno_nunes> daqui nada volto
[00:25] <mmmrugby> vou instalar
[00:25] <barna> mmmrugby, vixi, q droga, pq pensei em usar ele só pra criar essa partição, cha eu pergunta pro oraculo q ele sabe como criar essa partição pelo linux
[00:26] <mmmrugby> para ciar partições o mac tem um software proprio e instalado em seu chipset, só preciso apertar um comando
[00:26] <barna> mmmrugby, uai, então pronto!
[00:26] <mmmrugby> uma partição de 2 g para grub ta bom
[00:27] <barna> 2gb? ta doido? 100mb e ainda vai sobrar muuuuuuuito
[00:29] <mmmrugby> hummm. blz
[00:33] <mmmrugby> estou executando, posso ficar logado aqui até terminar?
[00:33] <barna> mmmrugby, podes ficar logado aki o tempo q quiseres!
[00:34] <mmmrugby> ]obrigado
[00:34] <barna> eu fico logado aki todo o tempo que estou no comp, pra ajudar qm tiver precisando!
[00:37] <Geese_Howard> que meigo
[00:37] <barna> aki foi minha escola linux, agora é hora de retribuir. (e com isso aprendo ainda mais)
[00:38] <Geese_Howard> para quem não viu e cuida de servidores sem critério: http://techcrunch.com/2015/11/06/linux-ransomware-is-now-attacking-webmasters/
[00:39] <mmmrugby> eu estou querendo aprender linux. estava pensando em fazer um curso, vc me recomenda fazer o que para aprender?
[00:39] <Geese_Howard> mmmrugby: ler a documentação dos programas
[00:39] <Geese_Howard> mmmrugby: tem o guia foca também: www.guiafoca.org
[00:40] <Geese_Howard> mmmrugby: acompanhar foruns
[00:40] <Geese_Howard> mmmrugby: acho que curso mesmo, ainda mais pago, só compensa após uns 6 meses bem usados de linux
[00:40] <mmmrugby> boa dica
[00:40] <Geese_Howard> mmmrugby: tenho um conhecido que fez um curso de linux do zero, não aproveitou muito não
[00:40] <mmmrugby> vou fazer isso
[00:41] <mmmrugby> vou me dedicar ao linux
[00:42] <barna> mmmrugby, eu aprendi muuuuito ficando online aki, lendo os papos e tentando ajudar.
[00:43] <Picasso_-_> melhor forma de aprender linux é usando xD
[00:43] <barna> mmmrugby, falando nisso, me fala se deu certo seu processo, pq tenho 2 mac pra fazer dual boot na fila aki.
[00:44] <mmmrugby> to fazendo, mas te aviso
[00:45] <Geese_Howard> barna: usando o menino de cobaia
[00:46] <mmmrugby> de boa, ja tentei varias alternativas
[00:46] <mmmrugby> se der certo....
[00:46] <barna> uai, aproveitando pra aprender, ajudei o kra sem saber fazer (coisa normal)
[00:50] <mmmrugby> barna vou instalar manualmente
[00:50] <mmmrugby> criar 3 partições
[00:51] <barna> ???
[00:51] <mmmrugby> uma´para o efi, grub e ./
[00:53] <barna> mmmrugby, então aprovei e faz uma pro /home tb
[00:53] <barna> se vc precisar formatar um dia vc mantem seus arquivos pessoais e confs pessoais salvas.
[00:54] <mmmrugby> vou criar as 4, como vc recomenda a divisão do hd 500gb
[00:55] <barna> o efi e grub podem ser bem pequenas, o / no meu eu deixo com 20~30gb e da conta de boas o resto pro /home
[00:55] <barna> mmmrugby, ah, vc tem q criar o swap tb
[00:55] <mmmrugby> ok
[00:55] <barna> eu faço swap de 1gb pq quase não uso, mas tem q ter por segurança.
[00:58] <Geese_Howard> barna: na verdade ele pode optar por fazer a swap via arquivo depois se notar a real necessidade
[00:59] <Geese_Howard> barna: sem a necessidade de travar o espaço de 1G na tabela de partição
[00:59] <Picasso_-_> pessoal funciona de boa colocar o repositório kali e instalar os pacotes no ubuntu sem problemas? ou dá zica?
[00:59] <Geese_Howard> Picasso_-_: zica! zica! zica!
[00:59] <Picasso_-_> muito obrigado =D
[00:59] <Geese_Howard> Picasso_-_: não misture repositórios de distros diferentes nunca
[00:59] <Picasso_-_> entendido ^^
[01:00] <barna> Geese_Howard, num sabia desse esquema de fazer swap por arquivo no ubuntu (tb nunca pesquisei)
[01:00] <barna> como q faz?
[01:00] <Geese_Howard> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/
[01:19] <mmmrugby> pessoal não rolou, vou instalar o osx e criar uma partição. depois falo o resultado
[01:20] <nuno_nunes> ola
[01:20] <nuno_nunes> de volta
[01:20] <nuno_nunes> :d
[01:20] <mmmrugby> kkk
[01:20] <nuno_nunes> foi alguma piada
[01:20] <nuno_nunes> ?????
[01:20] <mmmrugby> não. pq?
[01:21] <nuno_nunes> riste do nada
[01:21] <nuno_nunes> :S
[01:24] <mmmrugby> barna
[01:24] <barna> mmmrugby, opa
[01:24] <barna> q deu de errado?
[01:25] <mmmrugby> fui formatar o hd para instalar o osx e percebi q as partições estão aqui certinhas, porem todas desmontadas
[01:25] <mmmrugby> não ativas
[01:25] <mmmrugby> não ativas
[01:25] <mmmrugby> será que tem que fazer algo?
[01:45] <lorival> boa noite, gostaria de saber q após o programa Devede fazer a imagem iso, como faço p/ gravar tal arquivo na mídia de dvd?
[01:46] <lorival> pensei que o programa fazia a conversão e já gravava simultaneamente....
[01:46] <astroo-> ola
[01:46] <lorival> astroo: olá
[01:47] <lorival> vc pode me ajudar?
[01:47] <Geese_Howard> lorival: pode usar o k3b para fazer isso
[01:47] <Geese_Howard> lorival: ou o cdrecord (com suporte a dvd ativado)
[01:47] <lorival> já tentei usar o k3b mas ñ deu certo, ñ sei o q foi... :/
[01:48] <lorival> nessa minha situação o q eu faço?
[01:48] <lorival> baixar outro programa e excluir o trabalho já feito?
[01:49] <Geese_Howard> lorival: qual o erro cara
[01:49] <Geese_Howard> "não sei o que foi"
[01:49] <Geese_Howard> posso te recomendar qualquer coisa
[01:49] <Geese_Howard> outro programa
[01:49] <Geese_Howard> xcdroast
[01:49] <Geese_Howard> cdrtools
[01:50] <Geese_Howard> mas o que garante que esse "não sei o que foi" ocorra novamente?
[01:50] <Geese_Howard> pq eu também não sei o que aconteceu sem os possíveis erros
[01:50] <Geese_Howard> pode ser um simples arquivo iso maior que a capacidade do dvd
[01:50] <lorival> hunf... vou instalar o k3b aqui e ver se consigo fazer
[01:51] <Geese_Howard> http://fosswire.com/post/2007/11/burning-cd-and-dvd-iso-images-with-cdrecord/
[01:53] <lorival> enquanto isso outra pergunta.... no meu pc vive aparecendo na barra superior, ao lado do sinal do wi-fi, um triângulo vermelho no qual qnd clico tem uma informação, dizendo q tem problemas na atualização e tal... e dando um comando p/ clicar logo abaixo onde está escrito: Mostrar configurações
[01:53] <lorival> eu clico lá só q sempre informa q tudo está atualizado...
[01:53] <barna> lorival, tens q atualizar o sistema
[01:54] <lorival> depois de um tempo o sinal some
[01:54] <barna> vai no dash (iniciar) e procurar por atualizador de programas
[01:54] <lorival> barna: onde é o dash
[01:54] <lorival> ?
[01:55] <barna> lorival, iniciar
[01:55] <barna> o botãozinho do lado esquerdo encima pra abrir os programas.
[01:56] <lorival> certo, ver aqui
[01:56] <Geese_Howard> lorival: espero que não esteja usando ubuntu 14.10
[01:57] <barna> aé tem isso tb
[01:57] <lorival> tô usando o 15.10
[01:57] <lorival> só q antes eu usava o 15.04
[01:57] <lorival> e aparecia
[01:57] <lorival> qnd cliquei ele me levou a atualizar o pc
[01:57] <lorival> passando p/ o 15.10
[01:58] <lorival> ué, no botão iniciar ñ era p/ digitar "dash"?
[01:58] <barna> dash é o nome do botão iniciar no ubuntu
[01:59] <Picasso_-_> pessoal já foi resolvido no ubuntu 15.xx o problema de vídeo da amd? Aqui fica passando umas linhas nos vídeos uma m... tem como arrumar isso?
[02:01] <barna> Picasso_-_, ouvi dizer q o 15.10 tem um role novo pras AMDs, mas não testei pq (graças a deus) não tenho nenhuma AMD aki, só nvidia
[02:01] <Geese_Howard> barna: é nóis!
[02:01] <Geese_Howard> só louco para comprar amd
[02:01] <barna> pior q amd acho q so as sis
[02:02] <Geese_Howard> barna: sis nem é placa
[02:02] <Geese_Howard> barna: mas sis, via, unichrome realmente são piores que amd
[02:02] <Geese_Howard> barna: o problema é o preço
[02:02] <barna> aquelas onboard desgr..........s
[02:03] <lorival> ahh... hehehe entendi barna
[02:03] <Picasso_-_> 15.10 tá de boa? ou ainda em testes?
[02:03] <barna> Picasso_-_, é um non-LTS, daki 1 ano é descontinuado, bom pra testes.
[02:04] <Picasso_-_> ah =s
[02:04] <lorival> geese, tentei aqui... ñ foi
[02:04] <lorival> aparece uma caixa de erro
[02:05] <barna> Picasso_-_, estavel agora é a 14.04 e a proxima será a 16.04
[02:05] <Picasso_-_> Entendi, :D
[02:05] <hggdh> barna: 9 meses. 15.10 será descontinuada em Julho 2016
[02:05] <barna> ops.... valeu pela correção
[02:20] <Geese_Howard> o cara não fala o erro
[02:24] <Picasso_-_> complicado heuheuehue
[02:30] <Geese_Howard> assistir cosmos
[04:28] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[10:56] <Junior> Oiii
[10:56] <Junior> Nao consigo instalar nada
[11:13] <mirqui> bom dia :)
[13:32] <Fabiano> sou iniciante, estou com o ubuntu na versao 14.10. como atualizo pra versao 14.04.3
[13:33] <Geese_Howard> Fabiano: não atualiza, você precisa reinstalar. É o método mais fácil e seguro.
[13:41] <Fabiano> Geese obrigado. Ja estou baixando ?D
[13:43] <Geese_Howard> Fabiano: boa sorte
[14:15] <mirqui> boa tarde :)
[14:42] <shallwe> boa tarde manoos
[15:46] <xGrind> shallwe, boa
[16:21] <Victor> Olá?
[16:22] <Guest88157> Olá. eu atualizei meu ubuntu para 15.04 , desde desse momento ele começou a aprasentar problemas na hora de conectar com o wifi, queria saber se temalguma forma de arruma isso.
[17:03] <Vico> Boa tarde
[17:04] <CrYt0-BR> Boa tarde
[17:05] <Vico> Estou com problema para usar acentuacao e cedilha no ubuntu
[17:07] <Vico> Alguem pode me ajudar nisso?
[17:27] <Vico> Alguem ai?
[17:43] <Geese_Howard> e já foi
[18:32] <Eduardo> Olá
[18:32] <Eduardo> Gostaria de ajuda
[18:35] <Geese_Howard> Eduardo: exponha-nos seu problema
[18:35] <Geese_Howard> e já foi
[18:45] <Creto> kkkkkk hoje todo usuário Linux quer na hora ou não quer mais e, assim é melhor póis vai em busca de documentação, lê e é um ótimo exercício para o cerebro kkkk
[18:46] <KurtKraut> Creto, Não é só usuário Linux não, são as pessoas em geral. Não querem mais ler (e sinceramente, estão desaprendendo). Recebo pedidos insistentes para criar e divulgar material em vídeo porque em texto ninguém mais quer saber.
[18:47] <Creto> já vi esse nick??????? não lembro onde
[18:48] <Creto> é bem assim mesmo mas eles que me desculpem irão ficar na clandestinidade e não passar do uso do FF em seus PCs
[18:48] <Creto> não que eu seja algum hacker
[18:48] <Creto> kkkk
[18:48] <Bode> Boa tarde
[18:48] <Creto> Boa
[18:48] <Bode> Alguém pode me ajudar na instalação do ubuntu?
[18:49] <Creto> Onde?
[18:49] <Creto> em que parte?
[18:49] <Bode> No meu pc
[18:49] <Bode> Tipo
[18:49] <Bode> Eu baixei a iso do ubuntu pelo site oficial
[18:49] <Creto> em que parte esta complicado?
[18:49] <Bode> No começo siauhsuia
[18:49] <Bode> Então, baixei a iso
[18:49] <Creto> já conferiu md5, gravou em baixa velocidade?
[18:49] <Bode> Queria saber se tem como eu por a iso no meu celular e por lá instalar o ubuntu no meu pc
[18:50] <Bode> Como se fosse um pendrive meu celular
[18:50] <Creto> em uma mídia de DVD ou pendrive com o unetbootin ou LILI Usb Creator
[18:50] <Creto> se teu pc reconhecer ele como um midia de boot
[18:50] <Creto> e teu cartão de memoria tiver ao menos 4GB
[18:51] <Bode> O meu tem 32
[18:51] <Bode> Mas não consigo fazer com que ele reconheça
[18:51] <Bode> É um Moto X segunda geração
[18:51] <Creto> pois é mas no teu PC tem entrada para esse tipo de mídia?
[18:51] <Bode> Como sei se tem? xD
[18:51] <Creto> há ta desculpa sou velho
[18:51] <Bode> Sou iniciante nisso
[18:52] <Creto> e não conheço celulares smartpobres
[18:52] <Bode> ? .-.
[18:52] <Geese_Howard> Bode: não complique, use um pendrive
[18:52] <Creto> esses telefones tenho horror a eles
[18:52] <Creto> pensei que era um com cartão de memoria
[18:52] <Geese_Howard> Bode: seu celular pode estar "flapando" entre mass storage e mtp sendo impossível para o boot reconhecer e fazer o boot da iso
[18:53] <Creto> olha amigo nesse caso não sei se posso ser útil
[18:53] <Geese_Howard> Bode: faça em um pendrive ou dvd e seja feliz
[18:53] <Bode> Pdc
[18:53] <Bode> Vlw :p
[18:53] <Creto> kkkkkk viu
[18:53] <Geese_Howard> KurtKraut: skynet já domina
[18:54] <Geese_Howard> KurtKraut: em forma de smartphones
[18:54] <Geese_Howard> KurtKraut: uma mistura de skynet com matrix
[18:54] <Creto> kkkkkk eu ia pedir o endereço para ele que daquii do interior do estado do Pará até onde ele está é um pulo
[18:54] <Geese_Howard> KurtKraut: para onde você olha tem alguém fazendo algo sem prestar a devida atenção pq está com um celular na mão
[18:55] <Creto> atrvessar a rua assim é ótimo Gesse
[18:56] <Geese_Howard> cara, já homem, mulher adolescente andando de moto com as duas mãos no celular
[18:56] <Geese_Howard> **já vi
[18:56] <Geese_Howard> isso chegando no sina
[18:56] <Geese_Howard> oxi
[18:57] <Geese_Howard> sinal
[18:57] <Geese_Howard> qualquer imprevisto é batida seguida por queda
[18:57] <Geese_Howard> mas, a mensagem não pode esperar
[19:03] <Creto> kkkk é
[19:03] <Creto> quando eu logar aqui de novo vou trazer a tabela de preços ;-)
[19:33] <helziez> O ubuntu 15 está versão estável? Não consigo identificar pelo site...
[19:41] <helziez> inúteis. Ainda bem que existe a comunidade inter, e sim, blablabla, mimimi, ninguém é obrigado a responder na hora balbala, inúteis lammers, _(_ me ban, xau fui
[19:56] <hggdh> +1
[19:56] <KurtKraut> hggdh, Eu queria encontrar essas pessoas pessoalmente.
[19:58] <hggdh> KurtKraut: Eu, pessoalmente, prefiro não os encontrar :-)
[20:59] <Geese_Howard> KurtKraut: não generalize
[20:59] <Geese_Howard> KurtKraut: mas sugiro esperar vocẽ poder ter porte de arma
[20:59] <Geese_Howard> kkkkk
[21:06] <KurtKraut> Geese_Howard, ahahhahahahahaha
[21:10] <shallwe> ubuntu-br é o canal com mais brasileiros aqui no irc ) legal saber
[21:22] <Geese_Howard> shallwe: de onde tirou essa informação, mal lhe pergunte?
[21:23] <Geese_Howard> shallwe: mesmo por que deve ser a maior quantidade de mudos inativos
[21:23] <Geese_Howard> shallwe: realmente tem bastante
[21:30] <shallwe> Geese_Howard, no list channel
[21:34] <muri_> boa noite, estou com um problema com uma atualização, alguém pode me ajudar?
[21:36] <muri_> O problema é esse: "O dpkg foi interrompido, para corrigir o problema tem de correr manualmente 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'"
[21:37] <muri_> Só que quando eu digito o comando o terminal trava em 100%
[21:40] <shallwe> muri_, já tentou "sudo apt-get install -f" ?
[21:41] <muri_> Vou tentar esse comando agora
[21:42] <muri_> O erro continua a mesma mensagem que digitei acima é mostrada
[21:43] <shallwe> vixi
[21:43] <Geese_Howard> muri_: vamos do princípio
[21:43] <muri_> ok
[21:43] <Geese_Howard> muri_: por que você está fazendo o dpkg --configure -a ?
[21:44] <muri_> Por conta dessa mensagem de erro: O dpkg foi interrompido, para corrigir o problema tem de correr manualmente 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[21:44] <Geese_Howard> muri_: e o que faz com que este erro ocorra?
[21:44] <Geese_Howard> muri_: qual comando?
[21:44] <muri_> mas quando eu a digito o dropbox começa a ser instalado e o download trava em 100%
[21:46] <muri_> Não posso nem instalar nem atualizar o sistema nem atualizar a distro
[21:47] <Geese_Howard> você ainda não explicou como chegou a este estado
[21:47] <muri_> Começou quando eu tentei instalar o dropbox.
[21:48] <LeandroLuiz> esse seu hobby Geese_Howard algumas pessoas chamam de trabalho..
[21:50] <muri_> A instalação travou em 100% de download e agora não posso instalar nada.
[21:50] <muri_> o apt-get trava e o dpgk também.
[21:51] <muri_> O synaptic dá essa mensagem de erro: E: O dpkg foi interrompido, para corrigir o problema tem de correr manualmente 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[21:59] <Geese_Howard> muri_: apt-get install dropbox?
[21:59] <muri_> A instalação trava em 100% e trava o dpkg e o apt-get
[22:00] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[22:00] <Geese_Howard> LeandroLuiz: praticamente trabalho voluntário
[22:00] <Geese_Howard> LeandroLuiz: vou colocar no meu curriculo
[22:00] <rauldipeas> Boa noite pessoal, alguém tem ideia que como resolver o bug de falta de estabilidade do Wifi no Ubuntu 15.10?
[22:00] <Geese_Howard> muri_: está tudo correto com seu sistema?
[22:01] <LeandroLuiz> Geese_Howard: coloca
[22:01] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: qual bug?
[22:01] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: manda o link do bug
[22:01] <muri_> Como eu verifico?
[22:01] <Geese_Howard> muri_: espaço em disco ok? memória ok? logs do sistema ok?
[22:02] <rauldipeas> Eu instalei o 15.10 em 3 máquinas diferentes, nas 3, a conexão funciona por uns 5 minutos e cai, daí eu tenho que reiniciar toda minha rede e o problema continua ocorrendo em loop Gesse_Howard
[22:02] <muri_> Excerto pelos log do sistema que não sei verificar está tudo ok
[22:02] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: mas de onde você tirou que isso é um bug do ubuntu?
[22:02] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: e não do kernel do linux? ou do modulo de suporte ao hardware?
[22:02] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: ou da sua configuração do wifi?
[22:03] <rauldipeas> Eu fiz downgrade em uma das máquinas, a conexão voltou à funcionar normalmente.
[22:03] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: é o correto, já que a versão 15.10 não é a estável
[22:03] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: poooooooode ser que na próxima LTS esteja resolvido
[22:03] <rauldipeas> Sim, eu tenho ciência disso, só perguntei pra saber se alguém tinha alguma idéia de como resolver.
[22:03] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: não vai ser na 15.10
[22:04] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: duas perguntas: 1) você reportou este problema para os desenvolvedores?
[22:04] <rauldipeas> Já que o bug afetou as 3 máquinas que tem hardware completamente diferente, eu entendi que era um bug do Ubuntu, não?
[22:04] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: 2) qual o hardware wifi dessas máquinas?
[22:04] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: as vezes não, as vezes é do kernel
[22:05] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: as vezes do firmware
[22:05] <rauldipeas> São 3 interfaces wifi diferentes, Atheros, Broadcom e Realtek.
[22:05] <rauldipeas> Eu não reportei, não sei como fazer isso.
[22:05] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: tentou google: report ubuntu problems?
[22:05] <rauldipeas> Eu fiz downgrade pro 14.04 em uma das máquinas e estou usando a mesma versão de kernel.
[22:05] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: ou mesmo no #ubuntu internacional
[22:06] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: seria legal você compartilhar a configuração utilizada
[22:06] <rauldipeas> Sim, tentei no #ubuntu, a galera por lá é menos prestativa do que aqui.
[22:06] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: se quem desenvolve não ficar sabendo do problema, é muito provável que o problema não seja resolvido na próxima versão
[22:06] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: é, aqui o pessoal curte pegar no colo
[22:06] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: mas aqui ninguém tem poder de decisão
[22:07] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: então, a prestatividade chega a ser inútil nestes casos
[22:07] <rauldipeas> Gesse_Howard, são 3 máquinas diferentes, não faz sentido levar em consideração o hardware, e já que o downgrade com o mesmo kernel resolveu, o bug deve ser relacionado ao Ubuntu mesmo.
[22:07] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: concordo
[22:07] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: por isso reforço, se vc pretende continuar usando ubuntu, reporte o problema aos desenvolvedores
[22:07] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: ou desencane de usar ubuntu
[22:08] <rauldipeas> No canal #ubuntu a galera ficou pesando nessa de eu postar o hardware detalhado, não faz sentido.
[22:08] <rauldipeas> Como assim "desencane" de usar Ubuntu?
[22:08] <rauldipeas> hahaha
[22:08] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: para uma análise detalhada faz sentido postar o hardware detalhado
[22:08] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: talvez você precise entrar no jogo deles
[22:08] <rauldipeas> Não, não preciso.
[22:09] <rauldipeas> Se o bug é generalizado, o suporte deles não faz o menor sentido.
[22:09] <rauldipeas> Vão me enrolar por horas pra dizer o mesmo que você disse no início.
[22:09] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: bom, você quem sabe
[22:09] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: report or die
[22:09] <Geese_Howard> kkkk
[22:09] <rauldipeas> Eu já fiz isso outras vezes, essa galera do #ubuntu não ajuda em nada.
[22:09] <rauldipeas> Eu postei uma dúvida sobre pendrive UEFI lá esses dias.
[22:09] <rauldipeas> Me disse pra usar legacy.
[22:09] <Geese_Howard> ainda bem que não uso ubuntu então
[22:10] <rauldipeas> Pô, se eu preciso do UEFI, não faz sentido dizer pra eu usar legacy... ¬¬
[22:10] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: na verdade azar o seu que comprou UEFI
[22:10] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: mas usar legacy é uma solução comum
[22:10] <rauldipeas> 3 caras lá me enrolaram por quase uma hora pra falar isso.
[22:10] <rauldipeas> Ué, azar não, sorte a minha, já que é uma tecnologia mais nova.
[22:10] <rauldipeas> Eu resolvi o problema, postei no VoL e no Youtube.
[22:11] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: tecnologia que limita o uso em favor da microsoft, corrigindo
[22:11] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: graças a deus nem todos os fabricantes caíram nessa armadilha
[22:11] <rauldipeas> Mas cara, o boot com UEFI é muito mais rápido, eu não uso Windows.
[22:12] <rauldipeas> Com o legacy, meu boot demora uns 15s, com UEFI demora uns 7.
[22:12] <Geese_Howard> e qual a vantagem desse boot "mais rápido"
[22:12] <Geese_Howard> 7 segundos?
[22:12] <Geese_Howard> sério que essa é a grande vantagem dessa novíssima tecnologia?
[22:12] <rauldipeas> A vantagem é que ao ligar a máquina eu começo à trabalhar com menos estresse por esperar ué.
[22:12] <rauldipeas> hahaha
[22:12] <Geese_Howard> puff
[22:12] <rauldipeas> Não, essa não é a grande vantagem.
[22:13] <rauldipeas> A grande vantagem é você instalar vários sistemas e gerenciar tudo num lugar só, sem perder o boot de um quando instala o outro.
[22:13] <rauldipeas> Eu tenho 4 instalações Linux no meu SSD.
[22:13] <rauldipeas> Não vejo vantagem pra Microsoft aí.
[22:13] <Geese_Howard> para quê 4 linux?
[22:13] <Geese_Howard> se é tudo linux
[22:14] <rauldipeas> Pra testes comparativos que colaboram no desenvolvimento de um projeto.
[22:14] <Geese_Howard> desenvolvem programas para linux neste projeto?
[22:15] <rauldipeas> Como vou saber se um programa roda em diferentes versões do Ubuntu sem fazer o teste real?
[22:15] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: programa bom roda em qualquer linux
[22:15] <rauldipeas> Sim, claro.
[22:15] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: kkkk
[22:15] <rauldipeas> Sim, mas pra ser bom ele tem que ser testado, não?
[22:16] <rauldipeas> Ou o cara desenvolve no escuro e já era?
[22:16] <rauldipeas> hahaha
[22:16] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: seguindo o TDD, você está certo
[22:16] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: e deus tenha piedade de sua alma
[22:16] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: 4 ubuntu na mesma máquina, só jesus na causa
[22:16] <rauldipeas> TDD?
[22:17] <Geese_Howard> rauldipeas: google it
[22:17] <rauldipeas> Cara, na boa, vou sair do canele beleza? Você não está satisfeito com a minha presença aqui.
[22:17] <rauldipeas> TDD pode ser qualquer coisa.
[22:18] <rauldipeas> Não há necessidade de googlear algo já que tem um "expert" aqui.
[22:18] <rauldipeas> Até.
[22:18] <muri_> Quando eu digito sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:18] <muri_> Fica assim Dropbox is the easiest way to share and store your files online. Want to learn more? Head to http://www.dropbox.com/ Downloading Dropbox... 100%
[22:18] <muri_> E não sai disso
[22:19] <Geese_Howard> o bom é que quando você digita TDD no google aparece a definição da wikipedia com todas as definições. mas até isso as pessoas tem preguiça de fazer
[22:19] <Geese_Howard> muri_: reinstala, acho que seu ubuntu morreu
[22:19] <muri_> Ah...
[22:20] <muri_> boa noite
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2015-11-08-#xubuntu-devel
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[02:37] <flocculant> jjfrv8: really? all locks here fine
[02:38] <flocculant> bluesabre: can you check bug 1514137 out please :)
[02:52] <flocculant> what we need is to social medise a session where we can make it plain how simple it is to test stuff
[02:53] <flocculant> I am about weekends
[05:46] <Unit193> xf-pa-pl: Click on it opens a menu, clicking again does not close it; scrollering on the icon changes volume, but does not show via notify-osd.
[05:53] <Unit193> Hrm, different version?
[12:05] <bluesabre> hm
[12:05] <bluesabre> good morning all
[12:26] <Unit193> Howdy.
[12:47] <bluesabre> hi Unit193
[12:47] <bluesabre> how's it going?
[12:47] <Unit193> Chilly morning, so it seems.
[12:48] <Unit193> Uploading the last thing, 800+MB is fun. You?
[12:49] <bluesabre> wowza
[12:49] <bluesabre> trying to catch up
[12:49] <bluesabre> took friday off for some extra catch up time, and now I think I am more behind than before
[12:50] <bluesabre> >.<
[12:50] <Unit193> Wow, what with?
[12:50] <bluesabre> *
[12:50] <bluesabre> :D
[12:54] <Unit193> Upload done! \o/
[12:57] <bluesabre> woot
[13:00] <Unit193> Did a screenshot "tour" of gnome-software, and hopefully made it easier to test too. :P
[13:01] <Unit193> But for some reason only finds already installed applications. :P
[13:18] <jjfrv8> flocculant, bluesabre, it was stupidity on my part. I had forgotten that I had disabled light-locker in Application Autostart on those machines.
[13:18] <jjfrv8> That was a holdover from the time when I couldn't get the machines to stop locking when I didn't want them to :(
[13:18] <bluesabre> jjfrv8: :D
[13:18] <jjfrv8> And the bad part is, my laptop was a fresh install, but for the first time, I did it with a separate home partition. I thought doing it that way, it would be easier to use my laptop for regular work as well as new image testing.
[13:18] <jjfrv8> I was a little worried, though, that it might compromise things, and guess what? It did.
[13:19] <bluesabre> jjfrv8: np, that just means we have more testing variety :D
[13:19] <jjfrv8> I'll mark the bug as invalid?
[13:22] <jjfrv8> flocculant, I did notice that there were some obsolete references in the power manager testcase. I can file a bug and make a merge proposal for the suggested changes - if I remember how.
[13:23] <bluesabre> jjfrv8: as long as the functionality works when enabled, go ahead :)
[13:24] <jjfrv8> bluesabre, yup, it does.
[13:24] <bluesabre> jjfrv8, ochosi: if we could detect light-locker as running, a good enhancement would be for xfpm to show that its not running and offer to start it.
[13:25] <bluesabre> ochosi: maybe with some dbus command
[13:25] <jjfrv8> ochosi, I also noticed that the power manager docs need updating. Shall I work on that?
[13:25] <bluesabre> jjfrv8: what needs updated?
[13:26] <jjfrv8> bluesabre, I forget what version I wrote them for, but there's been a tab added, for one thing.
[13:26] <jjfrv8> and the screenshots are the old theme.
[13:27] <bluesabre> jjfrv8: then yeah, go ahead and proceed with updating those docs if you feel motivated :)
[13:27] <jjfrv8> will do
[14:22] <bluesabre> since squentin is looking into this one, we will probably see some progress at some point, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gmusicbrowser/+bug/1401609
[14:31] <amigamagic> hi, I'm a little rusty on this topic, but I'm unable to create a clone of a git repository to compile an xfce plugin in local... Is there someone that can help me?
[14:38] <bluesabre> amigamagic: probably just need to clone the git url instead of the ssh url, which plugin?
[14:40] <bluesabre> amigamagic: for example, the eyes plugin, git clone git://git.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-eyes-plugin
[14:45] <amigamagic> bluesabre, thanks, I'm getting help from cavalier on xfce channel :-)
[14:46] <amigamagic> I had to select the right branch
[17:31] <dkessel_> flocculant: how do i file bugs against testcases again? what is the correct launchpad project?
[17:32] <dkessel> bluesabre: mousepad from the ppa is still built against gtk2 :p
[17:33] <dkessel> oh, and while i'm at it, when was parole changes so that "parole --xv false" no longer works? if it ever did.. i don't know. that's what the parole package test says for running parole inside a vm...
[17:35] <krytarik> dkessel: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests
[17:36] <dkessel> ty krytarik
[17:44] <Unit193> knome: Hah, speaking of which, looks like you/someone typo'd in http://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-15-10-release/ about Libreoffice being included, you have one too many 'ands' there, one should be 'are' :P
[17:44] <Unit193> I can't edit it, or I would.
[18:14] <krytarik> dkessel: http://git.xfce.org/apps/parole/commit/?id=b86a4a5825995ed62a392aa9432da0ae87226bd0
[18:17] <dkessel> krytarik: so it got dropped from the command line options, but added to the UI, it seems?
[18:17] <krytarik> Yep.
[18:17] <dkessel> i'll add that to the testcase bug
[18:23] <krytarik> dkessel: Guess https://sources.debian.net/src/parole/0.8.1-1/debian/parole.1/ should be updated too then.
[18:24] <dkessel> krytarik: right
[18:24] <krytarik> Unit193, Noskcaj: ^
[19:19] <Unit193> krytarik: Shake your head, your eyes are stuck.
[19:30] <Unit193> cyphermox: ...Just have to say, you ever gotten adduser mixed up with useradd?
[19:30] <cyphermox> Unit193: nop.e
[19:31] <cyphermox> oh wait
[19:31] <cyphermox> "have you ever", then yes
[19:31] <cyphermox> I always have to make a conscious effort to remember which one is the good one :)
[19:31] <Unit193> OK, because every time I go to use it: "Dang, now is it adduser or useradd?!"
[21:19] <knome> Unit193, fixed
[21:20] <Unit193> Danke.
[21:30] <Unit193> There's the wiki too, but nobody reads that.
[21:30] <knome> but you can edit tha!
[21:30] <knome> +t
[21:31] <Unit193> Yeah.
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-nl
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[10:49] <SCHAAP137> môggeuh
[18:28] <Kuldeep_> Hai
[18:30] <Kuldeep_> How to partition the ubuntu 12.4?
[18:30] * Kuldeep_ slaps commandoline around a bit with a large fishbot
[18:31] * Kuldeep_ slaps Arieh around a bit with a large fishbot
[18:44] <Kuldeep_> hai
[18:55] <lordievader> Kuldeep_: This is the Dutch Ubuntu support channel, for the English one see #ubuntu. To answer your question, get a partition editor like parted (CLI) or gparted (graphical).
[18:59] <Kuldeep_> ya am using gparted but the resize option is not enabled
[19:00] <lordievader> Kuldeep_: Hmm, I know relatively little about gparted. Prefer the cli version myself. Is the partition mounted?
[19:02] <Kuldeep_> ok
[19:08] <Kuldeep_> what actually cli means
[19:10] <lordievader> Command line interface, terminal applications.
[19:12] <Kuldeep_> ok thanks, then how can i partition by using cli ony
[19:13] <Kuldeep_> only
[19:14] <bn_> sudo fdisk /dev/sdx
[19:14] <bn_> I think
[19:14] <bn_> but I'm not 100% sure if this is what you are after
[19:16] <lordievader> Kuldeep_: See the man page of parted.
[19:16] <lordievader> Or fdisk.
[19:16] <Kuldeep_> ok thanks.
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[00:45] <Scary_Guy> does anyone here use weechat as their IRC client?
[00:45] <Scary_Guy> and here's where it gets obscure (more so than a specific client and IRC in general) anyone tried to relay to the android app on f-droid?
[01:30] <cmaloney> I use Weechat
[12:50] <tony-smlr> SMLR Live: E166/167 (11/08/2015) Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4cn0S9gKyQ
[14:50] <cmaloney> Morning
[14:51] <_stink_> yo
[16:32] * greg-g coughs
[16:32] <greg-g> stupid sickness
[16:37] <_stink_> i also have that
[16:37] <_stink_> the stupid sickness
[16:37] <_stink_> also called
[16:37] <_stink_> the herp
[16:39] <greg-g> ....
[16:40] <_stink_> or the derp
[21:58] <cmaloney> I really feel bad for those who have the herp. The Herpees.
[21:58] <cmaloney> and the derpees.
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2024-05-13T22:11:34.144718
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2015-11-08-#ubuntu-pt
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[04:28] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[21:59] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:34.145317
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2015-06-17-#ubuntu-se
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[15:51] <Amoz> typiskt att nätet/servern går ner när man inte kan fixa skiten på distans :|
[15:53] <cowbacon> :|
[16:43] <molgrum> https://twitter.com/Falkvinge/status/611072058487930881
[16:55] <Amoz> molgrum, hah, verkar dock vara fixat nu i senaste chromium inom debian
[16:56] <molgrum> har kört chrome rätt länge på win8, med mikrofon. laptop :P
[16:58] <Amoz> molgrum, fast nu verkar de ju inte som att de avlyssnat, utan hittills har de bara "otillåtet" tankat ner en binär blob.
[16:58] <molgrum> aha
[18:24] <sleeveace> help
[18:31] <Amoz> lol
[22:40] <Peyam> in mona bogando koo
[23:38] <Squarism> Om ssh säger (ssh -vvv) debug1: Offering RSA public key: /home/karlw/.ssh/id_rsa ... är ngt fel? Jag menar id_rsa.pub är ju min publika o id_rsa bara är ju den privata nyckeln
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2024-05-13T22:11:34.160529
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"Amoz",
"Peyam",
"Squarism",
"cowbacon",
"molgrum",
"sleeveace"
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2015-06-17-#ubuntu-us-ca
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[21:20] <blitz> where did rww go
[21:21] <ianorlin> I don't know
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:34.162522
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"blitz",
"ianorlin"
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2015-06-17-#ubuntu-ru
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[03:48] <ubuntu815> Привет
[03:48] <ubuntu815> может кто-нибудь помочь?
[04:15] <svetlana> с чем
[04:21] <ubuntu815> О, снова вы
[04:21] <ubuntu815> Всё с той же убунтой)
[04:26] <ubuntu825> Теперь у меня криво запускается убунту а винду вообще не могу запустить
[04:27] <svetlana> как grub восстановился?
[04:31] <ubuntu825> Я заново убунту поставил
[04:31] <ubuntu825> Граб не хочет винду видеть
[04:31] <ubuntu825> Как и убунта не видит разделы где была винда
[04:32] <svetlana> если в убунте написать «sudo update-grub», то какой текст она выводит на экран?
[04:33] <ubuntu825> граб апдейтится норм
[04:33] <ubuntu825> пробовал уже
[04:34] <svetlana> да, но что он пишет на экран когда он это делает?
[04:34] <ubuntu825> Найден образ linux: /boot/vmlinuz-3.19.0-15-generic
[04:34] <ubuntu825> Найден образ initrd: /boot/initrd.img-3.19.0-15-generic Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.elf Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[04:59] <ubuntu825> Все?
[05:01] <svetlana> понятно
[05:01] <svetlana> я не очень в партициях разбираюсь но похоже что убунта не читает виндоус партицию совсем
[05:02] <svetlana> какие у той партиции параметры, файловая система?
[05:05] <ubuntu825> Я не знаю(
[05:05] <ubuntu825> наб я
[05:06] <svetlana> ок
[05:06] <svetlana> я бы поставила и открыла gparted, чтобы посмотреть что он знает про этот диск
[05:08] <ubuntu825> Я через консоль смотрел
[05:08] <ubuntu825> Он его просто не видит
[05:08] <ubuntu825> Если речь о диске с виндой
[05:10] <svetlana> ок
[05:10] <svetlana> какого размера эта убунту партиция
[05:10] <svetlana> и какого размера сам диск
[05:11] <svetlana> чтобы проверить что виндоус ещё где-то существует, нам надо убедиться, что ответы на эти два вопроса достаточно сильно отличаются
[05:20] <ubuntu825> sda 8:0 0 931,5G 0 disk ├─sda1 8:1 0 927,5G 0 part / ├─sda2 8:2 0 1K 0 part └─sda5 8:5 0 4G 0 part [SWAP]
[05:20] <ubuntu825> Он походу даже раздела с убунту не видит как отдельного(
[05:22] <svetlana> всего 930 гига
[05:22] <svetlana> а какого размера сам диск?
[05:22] <svetlana> "sda1 8:1 0 927,5G 0 part /" — это сама убунта и есть.
[05:23] <svetlana> "/" — корневая директория линукса.
[05:23] <ubuntu825> ну вообще на 1ТБ
[05:23] <ubuntu825> сколько реального места не помню точно
[05:23] <svetlana> может виндоус влезть на 70ГБ?
[05:24] <ubuntu825> Ну на с столько было где-то кстати
[05:24] <ubuntu825> С
[05:24] <svetlana> ок тогда она где-то там есть, просто надо что-то допилить
[05:24] <ubuntu825> Ага
[05:24] <ubuntu825> вот что
[05:24] <svetlana> а существует или нет /dev/sdb?
[05:33] <ubuntu825> а как проверить?
[05:41] <svetlana> file /dev/sdb*
[05:41] <svetlana> ls /dev/sdb*
[05:41] <svetlana> что-то такое
[05:44] <ubuntu825> Что-то происходит
[05:44] <svetlana> гм
[05:44] <svetlana> я через минут 10 вернусь, здесь дело небольшое
[05:44] <ubuntu825> Ок
[05:47] <ubuntu825> этот раздел выделился
[13:56] <ubuntu216> светлана
[14:47] <mardy> looks like I cannot see cyrillic characters in here... maybe something is wrong with my encoding settings. Is anyone using irssi here?
[15:06] <mardy> ïðèâåò âñåì
[15:06] <ubuntuhelp> mardy! Please, use UTF-8 here. >>> How to configure: http://tinyurl.com/4qgpm3 or use Web Chat: http://ubuntu.ru/irc/webchat
[15:06] <mardy> ah! still wrong...
[15:08] <mardy> а сейчас?
[15:09] <mardy> is it correct now? ^
[15:15] <SergeyIT> mardy, раз хелп не ругается, значит нормально
[15:16] <mardy> SergeyIT: отлично, спасибо :-)
[15:19] <SergeyIT> незачто
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:34.177974
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2015-06-17-#launchpad-dev
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[01:35] <maozhou_> cjwatson： in the file of "configs/development/launchpad-lazr.conf", the path of "error_dir“ is ”/var/tmp/lperr",but I can't find the folder "/var/tmp/lperr" ,why?
[01:37] <maozhou_> cjwatson：and I can‘t find any file like “OOPS....”
[04:21] <maozhou_> cjwatson： in the file of "configs/development/launchpad-lazr.conf", the path of "error_dir“ is ”/var/tmp/lperr",but I can't find the oops file ,why?
[05:36] <wgrant> maozhou: If you're running a production instance with a development config, all hope is lost.
[06:34] <wgrant> wut
[06:34] <wgrant> pygit2 gives strs instead of bytes for a whole lot of things on Python 3.
[06:34] <wgrant> eg. ref names
[06:34] <wgrant> what does it do when there are invalid UTF-8 sequences, I wonder.
[06:35] <Spads> or new points in the astral plane 😨
[06:38] <maozhou> where is oops file, is there anyone knows?
[06:39] <wgrant> maozhou: We don't know how your installation is configured.
[06:39] <wgrant> But it sounds like you're using the development config on production, which is terrifying.
[06:39] <wgrant> Depending on how you've set it up, the OOPSes may have ended up in an ephemeral rabbitmq.
[06:42] <maozhou> cjwatson： in the file of "configs/development/launchpad-lazr.conf", the path of "error_dir“ is ”/var/tmp/lperr", but I can't find opps file I need
[06:43] <maozhou> wgrant:in the file of "configs/development/launchpad-lazr.conf", the path of "error_dir“ is ”/var/tmp/lperr", but I can't find opps file I need
[06:45] <wgrant> maozhou: The development configuration is not intended for a production environment.
[06:45] <wgrant> If you're using the default development config, OOPSes may end up in rabbitmq.
[06:45] <wgrant> If you are using rabbitmq for nothing else, consider stopping it. Then further OOPSes will fall back to the filesystem.
[06:47] <maozhou> wgrant: I am using the development config for test.
[06:50] <maozhou> wgrant: but ,how to stopping rabbitmq?
[06:51] <wgrant> maozhou: It depends on how you have set up the system. Examine your configuration file to identify where it expects to find rabbitmq, find that rabbitmq, and stop it.
[06:58] <maozhou> wgrant: If you're using the default development config, OOPSes may end up in rabbitmq ? where are the rabbitmq? I just wan't to know the error information when I run "cronscripts/process-job-source.py IInitializeDistroSeriesJobSource'’
[07:00] <wgrant> maozhou: OOPSes will be sent to rabbitmq if it is configured and running. It can be challenging to get them out of rabbitmq, so it's easiest to find the rabbitmq that they're going to, stop that rabbitmq, then trigger the OOPS again. Then it will end up on disk.
[07:05] <maozhou> wgrant: I understand,but I don't konw where is the configuration file to control rabbitmq.
[07:07] <wgrant> maozhou: The same configuration file that you mentioned earlier.
[07:11] <maozhou> wgrant: ok, I find it, let me try
[07:25] <maozhou> wgrant: I have stoped rabbitmq in file "configs/development/launchpad-lazr.conf",but when I trigger the OOPS again , I still can't find the OOPS file .
[07:28] <wgrant> maozhou: Have you restarted the application?
[07:32] <maozhou> wgrant: Yes I run "make run_all" again on my launchpad server
[07:51] <wgrant> maozhou: Have you confirmed that rabbitmq is not running?
[07:57] <maozhou> wgrant: how to confirmed that rabbitmq is not running? I have changed the value of "launch:" to "False" which in the "configs/development/launchpad-lazr.conf" of section "[rabbitmq]"
[07:58] <wgrant> maozhou: Are there any processes running with "beam.smp" in the commandline?
[07:58] <wgrant> If so, which user owns them?
[08:00] <maozhou> wgrant: what is "beam.smp" ?
[08:01] <wgrant> maozhou: beam.smp is the erlang process that hosts (among other things) rabbitmq.
[08:04] <maozhou> wgrant: is it the console which run "make run_all", if there are rabbitmq output on this console, it means the rabiitmq have not been stopped?
[08:06] <wgrant> maozhou: If make run_all starts rabbitmq, it would be reasonable to assume that rabbitmq has started.
[08:08] <maozhou> wgrant: so ,if the rabbitmq has been stopped ,the console of "make run_all" won't output messages?
[08:09] <wgrant> maozhou: run_all will always output some messages, but it shouldn't look like it's starting rabbitmq if it's not starting rabbitmq.
[08:18] <maozhou> wgrant: processes running with "beam.smp" in the commandline can judge the rabbitmq, but ,which commandline ?
[08:19] <wgrant> maozhou: In the output of ps
[08:54] <maozhou> wgrant: if there is processes running with "beam.smp" ， it‘s mean the rabbitmq have not been stoopped？
[09:26] <wgrant> maozhou: Yes.
[09:42] <maozhou> wgrant: I reboot my launchpad server，before running “make run_all”, there is processes running with "beam.smp". need i run "invoke-rc.d rabbitmq-server stop" to stop rabbitmq server?
[09:43] <wgrant> maozhou: That is worth a try.
[09:55] <maozhou> wgrant: I have ran "invoke-rc.d rabbitmq-server stop" to stop rabbitmq server,and I have modified the value of "launch:" to "False" which in the "configs/development/launchpad-lazr.conf" of section "[rabbitmq]". But after run "make run_all", there is processes running with "beam.smp" . Nedd I kill it?
[10:02] <wgrant> maozhou: Who owns that process?
[10:03] <wgrant> It may also be the case that run_all disregards the "launch" option. I forget.
[10:03] <wgrant> if len(requested_services) == 0:
[10:03] <wgrant> return [svc for svc in SERVICES.values() if svc.should_launch]
[10:03] <cjwatson> run_all hardcodes a bunch of service names, I think.
[10:03] <wgrant> make run_all explicitly names all of the things it wants, so the launch option is not respected.
[10:03] <cjwatson> It should be pretty clear from the Makefile.
[10:04] <cjwatson> Yeah.
[10:08] <maozhou> wgrant: the user who run "make run_all" owns that process
[10:13] <maozhou> I killed the process running with "beam.smp" , then I trigger the OOPS again. I find the OPPS file.
[10:13] <maozhou> thanks for your help :)
[20:56] <blr> morning
[23:38] <wgrant> Morning blr.
[23:39] <wgrant> blr: It turns out that turnip on Python 3 is more difficult than we anticipated, because pygit2 on Python 3 is quite brain-damaged.
[23:39] <wgrant> >>> r.listall_references()
[23:39] <wgrant> Traceback (most recent call last):
[23:39] <wgrant> File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
[23:39] <wgrant> UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0x80 in position 14: invalid start byte
[23:39] <blr> oh lovely >.<
[23:39] <wgrant> That's what happens if a repo has a ref that isn't in the filesystem's encoding.
[23:40] <wgrant> The low-level library tries to force Unicode onto something that isn't Unicode.
[23:50] <wgrant> https://github.com/libgit2/pygit2/issues/537, let's see what they say.
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2024-05-13T22:11:34.197906
| 2015-06-17T00:00:00 |
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2015-06-17-#ubuntu-mozillateam
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[21:05] <pwd> Anyone around? I'm trying to get the firefox-trunk builds kicked off. There's been no vivid build for over a month
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:34.201398
| 2015-06-17T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"pwd"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/17/%23ubuntu-mozillateam.txt",
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2015-06-17-#ubuntu-it
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[07:01] <glpiana> ola
[07:22] <katba> Salve,
[07:23] <katba> mi è successo una cosa stupidissima, ho cancellato per sbaglio dal harddisk esterno e ho anche formattato il harddisk, come posso recuperare ii dati??? aiuto!!
[07:24] <glpiana> katba, puoi provare con testdisk (photorec) ma non aspettarti grandi cose
[07:25] <katba> Grazie della risposta, ho già fatto con photorec e adesso ho una marea di cartelle, come posso ordinarli
[07:26] <glpiana> katba, è già buono il fatto che hai recuperato dei file
[07:27] <katba> si qualcosa ho recuperato, ma granparte è sparito e soprattutto ho file con .txt che non centrano niente ...
[07:27] <katba> non c'è un altro sistema per recupare meglio?
[07:30] <katba> Salve, qualcuno può aiutarmi?? Meglio portare il hard disk in un negozio?
[07:34] <katkat> Salve, ho cancellato dal cestino delle dati che mi servono, come posso recuperarli?
[07:35] <akis24> katkat: molto difficile recuperarli per non dire impossibile
[07:37] <katkat> non è una bella notizia.... difficile in che senso?
[07:48] <boot> buon giorno gente, ho formattato due schede micro sd con adattatore in fat32 da gparted, il mio mp3 aveva deciso di non leggerle più dopo questa procedura, ho tolto oggi le schedine dal mio mp3 e le ho reinserite sull'adattatore che però non vengono più riconosciute ne l'una ne l'altra da ubuntu, ho provato a seguire qualche guida sul motore ma no
[07:48] <boot> n ho trovato soluzioni. quindi riassumendo, schede micro sd con adattatore non lette dall'ingresso dedito integrato. sapreste aiutarmi? grazie (ps con laptop win inserendole vengono lette)
[07:55] <boot> ho formattato da win dato che non riconosceva su ubuntu... file system fat32 e ora da ubuntu la legge
[07:58] <Carlin0> boot, prima di estrarla smontala però se no ti fa nuovamente lo stesso scherzo
[07:58] <boot> Calin0 ok
[07:58] <boot> Carlin0*
[08:03] <jester-> 'ngiorno
[08:34] <SImone> ciao a tutti
[08:37] <SImone> c'è qualcuno?
[08:38] <Carlin0> !qualcuno | SImone
[08:38] <ubot-it> SImone: la maggior parte delle prime domande fatte in questo canale è del tipo «qualcuno puo' aiutarmi/qualcuno ha tempo/qualcuno usa...?». Fate la vostra domanda tecnica e se qualcuno sa, rispondera'
[08:41] <SImone> Sto assemblando un nas che volevo dotare di Ubuntu Server. Una peculiarità di questo nas è che volevo installargli un turner tv e condividere il segnale televisivo nella rete
[08:41] <SImone> è possibile fare una cosa del genere con ubuntu server?
[08:43] <jester-> SImone: ma il nas non ha gia un suo os installato?
[08:54] <SImone> Il nas lo sto assemblando io, quindi no, non ha nessun os
[08:56] <cristian_c> SImone, è un pc adibito a nas?
[08:56] <cristian_c> oppure un dispositivo nas vero e proprio?
[08:56] <cybernova> SImone, secondo me con vlc riesci a streammare
[08:58] <SImone> È ancora un idea, comunque dovrebbe essere questa scheda madre http://qwertynet.it/Amazon-ASRockModSoFM2FM2A78M-ITXMini-ITXSchedaMadreNero
[08:58] <SImone> con questa cpu http://qwertynet.it/Amazon-AMDFM2A8-760031GHzBoxProcessoreNero
[08:59] <SImone> il tutto in un case senza monitor ecc solamente collegato alla rete lan
[08:59] <ExPBoy> SImone, prendersi un nas vero no?
[09:00] <cybernova> SImone, ci puoi installare per comodità anche ubuntu desktop e poi fare lo stream sulla lan con vlc
[09:01] <SImone> ma non è più pesante? Io lo userei come server a tutti gli effetti, dalla condivisione file alla registrazione di un impianto di videosorveglianza
[09:02] <cristian_c> SImone, è una apu con cpu e gpu
[09:02] <cristian_c> mi sembra un po' uno spreco
[09:02] <cristian_c> che te ne fai della gpu in un nas?
[09:02] <cristian_c> ahhh, per la registrazione
[09:03] <cybernova> SImone, è più pesante si, ma non ho idea di quanto tu sia familiare con il terminale
[09:03] <cristian_c> SImone, comunque, per fare quelle cose, basta un rpi2
[09:03] <cristian_c> :)
[09:04] <ExPBoy> vero
[09:04] <SImone> dite che è sovradimensionato?
[09:04] <cristian_c> ha una buona scheda grafica
[09:04] <cristian_c> non so il tdp quale sia
[09:05] <cristian_c> 45-65W
[09:06] <cristian_c> 3,1 GHz di frequenza
[09:06] <cristian_c> SImone, sì, è sovradimensionato
[09:06] <cristian_c> grafica radeon r7
[09:08] <jester-> invidia e intel cpu non meglio per usare linux?
[09:09] <SImone> cristian_c: perché a dir la verità mi avevano anche consigliato questa scheda https://www.amazon.it/dp/B00JQHUE3G?tag=qwertyit-21&camp=3458&creative=23838&linkCode=as4&creativeASIN=B00JQHUE3G&adid=1GXEHV4WV3M3BYQ1YEN5&
[09:12] <jester-> SImone: in pratica ti faresti un server
[09:13] <jester-> il nas non ha bisogno di piastre e cpu, basta attaccarlo
[09:18] <SImone> Questo "nas" dovrebbe fare da archivio su due raid diversi, 4 HD, due in raid 1 e due in raid 0
[09:18] <SImone> Questo "nas" dovrebbe:fare da archivio su due raid diversi, 4 HD, due in raid 1 e due in raid 0
[09:18] <SImone> Questo "nas" dovrebbe:fare da archivio su due raid diversi, 4 HD, due in raid 1 e due in raid 0
[09:19] <SImone> Questo "nas" dovrebbe:fare da archivio su due raid diversi, 4 HD, due in raid 1 e due in raid 0
[09:19] <SImone> sorry, mi sono partiti messaggi in loop!
[09:20] <cristian_c> eh
[09:20] <SImone> condividere film in fullhd su tutta la rete, condividere tv e registrare impianto videosorveglianza! Secondo voi non serve cpu ecc?
[09:20] <cristian_c> allora, la asrock ok è compatta, ok ha un processore base celeron j1900
[09:21] <cristian_c> SImone, beh, con la rpi puoi agigungere un modulo che elabora l'immagine per la registrazione video
[09:21] <cristian_c> quindi non gravando sulla cpu
[09:21] <cristian_c> SImone, per il resto, la cpu di rpi2 dovrebbe gestire tutto molto tranquillamente
[09:22] <cristian_c> SImone, ora non so se rpi2 rispetto a rp1 ha la gigabit
[09:22] <cristian_c> ethernet, invece della megabit
[09:23] <cristian_c> (visto che i film non li riproduci sul nas)
[09:25] <cristian_c> poi è più compatta di una mini-itx
[09:38] <SImone> cristian_c: scusa il ritardo
[09:39] <SImone> Realmente un rpi2 regge 2 raid e la condivisione? Non ne avevo idea!
[09:39] <cristian_c> SImone, ti consiglio di cercare info a riguardo
[09:39] <cristian_c> su rpi c'è tanta documentazione, sopratutto sulle risorse ufficiali
[09:41] <cristian_c> SImone, ripeto, non so se rpi2 ha reso indipendente l'ethernet dall'usb
[09:41] <cristian_c> in ogni caso
[09:41] <cristian_c> !chat | SImone
[09:41] <ubot-it> SImone: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[09:42] <SImone> ook grazie milla cristian_c
[09:42] <glpiana> cristian_c, non mi pare
[09:42] <cristian_c> ok
[10:04] <davide> <ciao a tutti>
[10:10] <brunito90> salve
[10:10] <glpiana> !ciao | brunito90
[10:10] <ubot-it> brunito90: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[10:11] <brunito90> ho un problema con l'installazione di linux 15.04
[10:12] <jester-> !dettagli | brunito90
[10:12] <ubot-it> brunito90: Per favore dacci dettagli completi. Per esempio "Ho un problema con..., sto usando Ubuntu versione... con interfaccia.... Quando provo a fare..., ottengo questo output: ..., ma mi sarei aspettato che facesse..."
[10:12] <brunito90> come posso installare linuz
[10:12] <brunito90> ho gia la versione precedente'
[10:12] <brunito90> ?
[10:12] <glpiana> !installazione | brunito90
[10:12] <ubot-it> brunito90: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[10:13] <jester-> brunito90: se non dici il problema riscontrato su cosa ragioniamo?
[10:13] <glpiana> !aggiornamento | brunito90
[10:13] <ubot-it> brunito90: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione#Avanzamento_di_versione
[10:15] <brunito90> non so come poter installare il programma?
[10:16] <jester-> brunito90: che programma
[10:17] <brunito90> la versione 15.04
[10:17] <brunito90> attualmente ho la 14.04
[10:17] <brunito90> installata mediante cd
[10:18] <glpiana> brunito90, leggi le guide che ti ho indicato. puoi effettuare sia l'avanzamento di versione che una nuova installazione, a tuo piacere
[10:18] <glpiana> brunito90, se hai poi dubbi sulla procedura, chiedi
[10:20] <brunito90> Perdonami, ma io avendo la versione 14.04, al momento in cui effettuo download del 15.04, si installa da solo o quali sono le procedure da eseguire?
[10:21] <cristian_c> !installazione | brunito90
[10:21] <ubot-it> brunito90: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[10:21] <glpiana> brunito90, quelle che trovi nella guida che ti ho indicato. se vuoi te la indico di nuovo
[10:21] <glpiana> !installazione | brunito90
[10:22] <jester-> glpiana: mi sa che trollicchia con fatica
[10:23] <glpiana> jester-, non distrarlo, su, che legge un po'
[10:23] <jester-> eh cosi si rovina la vista
[10:23] <glpiana> meglio leggendo che in altri modi
[10:23] <jester-> lol
[10:25] <brunito90> perfetto, grazie fratelli ;)
[11:08] <riccardo> ciao
[11:08] <riccardo> avrei bisogno di aiuto per il pc fisso con ubuntu versione 14.04
[11:09] <riccardo> non si avvia rimane la schermata di hp. che cosa mi cosigliate di fare?
[11:10] <glpiana> riccardo, fisso o portatile?
[11:10] <riccardo> fisso
[11:10] <glpiana> riccardo, hai già provato a resettare il bios (levando la batteria dalla scheda madre)?
[11:12] <ExPBoy> ecco
[11:12] <riccardo> ce nessuno che puo aiutarmi
[11:13] <glpiana> riccardo, hai già provato a resettare il bios (levando la batteria dalla scheda madre)?
[11:13] <riccardo> ma e fisso il pc
[11:13] <ExPBoy> ?
[11:13] <glpiana> riccardo, ben per quello parlo di scheda madre
[11:13] <riccardo> il bios
[11:14] <riccardo> ho il pc aperto
[11:14] <glpiana> riccardo, corrente staccata?
[11:14] <riccardo> yes
[11:14] <ExPBoy> fiu
[11:14] <glpiana> riccardo, se guardi bene sulla scheda madre troverai una pila, come quelle degli orologi ma più grossa
[11:16] <glpiana> riccardo, se la vedi, bene, altrimenti lascia stare, richiudi il pc e portalo in un negozio per un reset del bios o per cambiare la pila
[11:16] <riccardo> la vedo
[11:16] <riccardo> ma la scheda madre e quella in verticale vero
[11:16] <riccardo> perche tempo fa avevo sostituito la scheda video
[11:16] <krabador> e già che ci sei , la diagnostica di tutto
[11:17] <riccardo> trovata e una batteria a litio
[11:17] <glpiana> riccardo, la scheda madre è quella cui sono collegate tutte le cose (altre schede, dischi, processore, ram...)
[11:17] <riccardo> trovata
[11:17] <ExPBoy> potrebbe anche essere scarica
[11:18] <glpiana> riccardo, se te la senti, toglila, aspetta un minutino e poi reinseriscila. se hai un tester intano controlla che sia carica
[11:18] <riccardo> non ho tester
[11:18] <glpiana> riccardo, se non te la senti, tenuto conto che io non verrò da te a rimontare la pila, recati in un negozio
[11:18] <riccardo> la sto tohgliendo
[11:18] <riccardo> proviamo
[11:19] <ExPBoy> aia
[11:20] <riccardo> tolta la pila
[11:20] <riccardo> il pc ha i suoi anni puo essere che sia andata
[11:20] <ExPBoy> eggià
[11:21] <ExPBoy> aspetta un po reinseriscila se non da segno di vita...... vedi sopra
[11:21] <riccardo> e se questa e scarica non parte il programma
[11:21] <glpiana> riccardo, potrebbe essere la causa del problema, così come un problema all'alimentatore o alla stessa scheda madre
[11:21] <ExPBoy> troppe variabili :)
[11:21] <riccardo> alimentatore lo appena cambiato come la scheda video
[11:22] <ExPBoy> eh magari se cambiavi il pc era meglio :)
[11:22] <riccardo> sarebbe ma ho il portatile anche
[11:23] <ExPBoy> fine OT
[11:23] <ExPBoy> !chat
[11:23] <ubot-it> per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[11:24] <krabador> riccardo: se ti serve , devi metterti in condizioni di efficienza, PC rattoppati sono solo fonte di problemi.
[11:24] <riccardo> non e rattopato
[11:24] <riccardo> e un hp dove ho cambito il sistema
[11:24] <ExPBoy> si e l'alimenttore e la scheda video
[11:25] <riccardo> sono nuovi
[11:25] <riccardo> si erano rotti butto via tutto
[11:25] <krabador> ExPBoy: eh , ma non è rattoppato
[11:25] <ExPBoy> ok
[11:31] <kristi23> salve, posso chiedere aiuto?
[11:31] <glpiana> !chiedi | kristi23
[11:31] <ubot-it> kristi23: per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-)
[11:33] <kristi23> Ho un problema dopo aver per sbaglio installato ubuntu 15.04 su windows 8.1, ora sopra l'unità (C:) di windows 8.1 ha cambiato nome e si chiama "Install Ubuntu" con l'icona che non è più quella di un hard disk windows ma una pannello. come posso risolvere questo problema
[11:34] <glpiana> kristi23, se hai installato ubuntu al posto di windows, non esiste più nessun disco c:
[11:34] <krabador> "per sbaglio " volevi fare un foglio di calcolo ed invece hai installato ubuntu ?
[11:34] <glpiana> kristi23, inoltre, se leggi "install ubuntu" su una icona sul desktop, significa che hai avviato una versione da cdo usb e non una versione installata su disco fisso
[11:35] <kristi23> non è che ho installato ubuntu, volevo solo renderlo bootabile su una usb tramite unebootin, ma al posto di scegliere "unità USB" credo di aver lasciato Unità C
[11:36] <kristi23> ora ho windows 8.1 accesso e perfettamente funzionante, vorrei solo togliere questa icona "install ubuntu"
[11:36] <kristi23> se volete ve la faccio vedere
[11:36] <glpiana> kristi23, prova a togliere la usb e vediamo se accade una magia
[11:37] <kristi23> non c'è alcuna usb inserita
[11:37] <krabador> !image | kristi23
[11:37] <ubot-it> kristi23: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[11:37] <glpiana> kristi23, vada per l'immagine
[11:37] <kristi23> ok arrivo
[11:47] <kristi23> ecco qua il problema https://i.imgur.com/2IulIHa.jpg
[11:50] <fennec> kristi puoi postare anche le proprieta' (tasto dx mouse)
[11:51] <kristi23> certo
[11:52] <krabador> fennec: quanti te ne servono connessi qui?
[11:52] <kristi23> http://i.imgur.com/nSNCgTk.jpg
[11:52] <kristi23> ecco qua
[11:53] <fennec> ciao krabador, in che senso dici?
[11:54] <krabador> nell'unico senso
[11:55] <sarovin> !nopaste
[11:55] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'nopaste'
[11:55] <sarovin> !paste
[11:55] <ubot-it> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[11:56] <fennec> kristi dicevo le prorietà dell'oggetto che vuoi eliminare non del disco
[11:57] <krabador> fennec: si
[11:58] <serverftp> ok, ma te lo spiego lì
[11:58] <krabador> no, qui
[11:58] <krabador> non accetto privati
[11:59] <serverftp> amen
[11:59] <krabador> serverftp: amen per te , non sei tenuto a stare qui
[12:00] <serverftp> neppure tu
[12:00] <krabador> beh, non credo proprio.
[12:00] <glpiana> serverftp, dacci un taglio e resta in canale solo con un utente
[12:04] <glpiana> kristi23, data la natura del tuo problema, anzitutto spostati in #ubuntu-it-chat
[12:08] <serverftp> kraba e gli altri, non è un argomento che attiene a qst canale, ma al funz della chat. quindi non se dovrebbe parlare qui. Se non accetti privati allora canale c'è un can pubblico per tutte le conversazioni non atinenti al topic. E comunque "amen" significa "certamente". Quindi ti stavo dando ragione. Cosa avevi capito? :)
[12:08] <glpiana> serverftp, come tu stesso scrivi, è off topic e sei pregato dei parlare di off topic nell'apposito canale, #ubuntu-it-chat
[12:10] <serverftp> esatto, stavo risponedendi a chi mi aveva formulato una domanda. purtroffo è fuori tema, ma è anche educazione!
[12:10] <serverftp> *purtroppo
[12:10] <glpiana> serverftp, davvero, non sto più scherzando, al prossimo off topic esci
[12:19] <samuel09876> Scusate non ricordo lil nickname del PC come faccio,😭😭😭😭
[12:19] <glpiana> samuel09876, il cosa?
[12:20] <glpiana> samuel09876, intendi il nome dell'utente?
[12:23] <samuel09876> Devo riformattare?
[12:23] <samuel09876> Per favore ditemi che c è un altra soluzione😭😭😭
[12:25] <teuccio78> ciao a tutti, ho un server ubuntu che se inserito in lan mi rallenta mostruosamente internet
[12:26] <teuccio78> ho provato a disabilitargli il gateway mantenendolo in rete e tutto torna a funzionare correttamente, avete mai sperimentato una situazione simile?
[12:31] <samuel09876> Ciao! Come faccio a recuperare il mio nome utente senza formattare nulla?
[12:32] <samuel09876> Per favore mi serve aiuto , ho mille cose li dentro
[12:34] <Carlin0> samuel09876, http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Sicurezza/GestionePassword/Recupero
[12:37] <Carlin0> certo che pazienza dimenticare la pass ma il nome utente è grave
[12:44] <Manu2> ciao ragazzi ho un problema con Ubuntu che nn ci vengo fuori in nessuna maniera...
[12:45] <kristi23> non è cambiato
[12:46] <Carlin0> Manu2, se non lo esponi ci tocca guardare la sfera di cristallo
[12:50] <Manu2> praticamente oggi Ubuntu 14.04 mi ha chiesto un aggiornamento e l'ho fatto...ha aggiornato pure il kernel, al riavvio pero' e' uscito un problema con scritto BusyBox e una serie di scritte , e niente non voleva piu' partire Ubuntu
[12:50] <Manu2> ho chiesto aiuto sul facebook di ubuntu e dicevano che era un problema fstab
[12:51] <Manu2> alla fine ho deciso di formattare tutto per mettere la 15.04
[12:51] <Manu2> ma nulla sto problema e' ricomparso e ubuntu non vuole partire
[12:52] <Manu2> pero' windows in dual boot parte,infatti da windows sto scrivendo qui...
[12:52] <Manu2> all'inizio pensavo fosse un problema di kernel visto che dal nulla si e' creata questa situazione
[12:53] <Manu2> ma ora ho rimesso tutto da zero,formattato e si ripropone sto benedetto BusyBox
[12:55] <Manu2> ho provato a controllare gli hard disk e sono buoni,sembra tutto apposto...ma mi esce sempre una schermata e si ferma li'
[12:55] <Carlin0> Manu2, ma invece di andare su facebook hai provato a googlare ?
[12:55] <Manu2> inoltre prima il pc partiva come un treno,adesso e' lento all'avvio...
[12:55] <Manu2> ho provato,ma nn si capisce una mazza
[12:56] <Manu2> io so' solo che pure formattando il pc non va' ancora ubuntu alla fine
[12:57] <Manu2> ma cos'e' sto BusyBox ?
[12:57] <Carlin0> Manu2, qui sembra abbiano risolto http://tinyurl.com/qegq9bx
[12:58] <Manu2> ma cos'e' sto BusyBox ?
[15:15] <nick-19> salve
[15:17] <nick-19> ho un problema col mio pc posso chiedere qui?
[16:33] <peace> ciao volevo se possibile un informazione
[16:34] <peace> ho creato un nome utente con password, ma quando accendo il pc non mi chiede la password che ho inserito al nome utente
[16:35] <peace> come devo fare?
[16:35] <jester-> fake peace hai accesso diretto?
[16:35] <peace> si senza la richiesta di password
[16:36] <jester-> allora è normale la cosa
[16:36] <jester-> parte alla winzoz
[16:36] <peace> io voglio che me la chieda quando accendo il pc
[16:36] <peace> cosa devo fare?
[16:36] <jester-> rimetti accesso con pass in impostazioni sistema
[16:37] <peace> adesso?
[16:37] <jester-> eh quando se no
[16:37] <peace> si
[16:38] <peace> ok messa nuova password
[16:39] <peace> adess?
[16:40] <peace> jester ci sei?
[16:41] <jester-> peace: non serve nuova passi devi abilitare accesso con pass
[16:41] <jester-> sarà li da qualche parte in impostazioni sistema
[16:41] <jester-> dioende dalla grafica che usi
[16:41] <jester-> dipende
[16:41] <peace> e dove lo trovo abilitare accesso?
[16:42] <peace> ho ubunto 15
[16:42] <jester-> peace: guarda nelle impostazioni sistema
[16:45] <jester-> peace: impostazioni sistema>privacy->impostazioni password
[16:45] <krabador> too bad
[16:45] <jester-> se hai ubuntu con la barra sulla sisnistra
[16:46] <jester-> devi prima fare sblocca
[16:51] <b00k3r> sera
[20:05] <fabri_SAM> ciao a tutti
[20:05] <akis24> !ciao | fabri_SAM
[20:05] <ubot-it> fabri_SAM: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[20:06] <fabri_SAM> ragazzi avrei una informazione da chiedere che non riesco a trovare da nessuna parte
[20:06] <fabri_SAM> magari voi sapete indirizzarmi meglio
[20:06] <akis24> fabri_SAM: prova a chiedere
[20:06] <fabri_SAM> io ho un mac e purtroppo essendo un po vecchio con il nuovo sistema operativo fatica parecchio
[20:06] <fabri_SAM> e per questo volevo installare ubunti
[20:07] <fabri_SAM> ubuntu
[20:07] <fabri_SAM> la mia domanda consisteva nella compatibilità della tastiera mac e quelle cose noiose proprietarie ed esclusive di mac
[20:08] <fabri_SAM> con un eventuale ubuntu installato
[20:09] <akis24> fabri_SAM: forse sarebbe meglio xubuntu o lubuntu visto che dici che è un vecchio pc perla eventuale compatibilita' di solito è buona a parte qualche tasto dedicato come sui mac
[20:09] <akis24> per la *
[20:10] <fabri_SAM> grazie akis24 ... allora provo ciao a tutti ;)
[20:10] <akis24> ciao fabri_SAM
[20:59] <luigino773> Buona sera ragazzi vi espongo la mia domanda: si può installare una distro linux su chiavetta? Non una chiavetta per installare linux ma una chiavetta con sopra linux da usare su un pc. Mi serve da usare in ufficio
[21:09] <Carlin0> luigino773, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[21:10] <luigino773> cosa sarebbe?
[21:10] <Carlin0> leggi
[21:10] <luigino773> non c'è in italiano?
[21:11] <Carlin0> non l'ho trovato almeno tra le risorse ufficiali che sono le uniche che si possono postare qui
[21:11] <Carlin0> giyf
[21:12] <luigino773> così non capisco però
[21:13] <Lorenzo14> Salve
[21:14] <Lorenzo14> Chi mi può aiutare?
[21:14] <Carlin0> !aiuto | Lorenzo14
[21:14] <ubot-it> Lorenzo14: per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-)
[21:15] <krabador> !usbwin | Lorenzo14
[21:15] <ubot-it> Lorenzo14: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[21:15] <krabador> scarica questo programma
[21:16] <luigino773> con chi parli?
[21:16] <krabador> luigino773 ^
[21:16] <krabador> sorry
[21:16] <Carlin0> luigino773, vuole una persistente
[21:17] <luigino773> krabador non voglio creare una chiavetta per installare linux, ma una chiavetta con su linux da usare su pc del lavoro
[21:17] <krabador> Carlin0, ha l'opzione persistent
[21:17] <Carlin0> a si ? non lo sapevo
[21:17] <luigino773> ah si?
[21:17] <Lorenzo14> Ho installato ubuntu sul max solo che quando lo ho spento e riavviato per rimandare su OS del mac non mi funziona perche quando tengo premuto alt non da il tempo per cambiare il sistema operativo e ora che ho provato 5-6volte ad accedere a ubuntu manco va che faccio ora? Non posso più resettare nulla
[21:17] <luigino773> e come funziona?
[21:18] <krabador> universal usb installer , ha l'opzione per i salvataggi
[21:18] <luigino773> se mi spieghi come fare.. grazie :D
[21:19] <krabador> luigino773, è elementare
[21:19] <Lorenzo14> Madonna io come faccio non funziona più nulla
[21:19] <krabador> luigino773, potresti iniziare con lo scaricarlo ed aprirlo, e qualche risposta ce l'avrai da solo
[21:20] <luigino773> ora sono da live di linux :/
[21:20] <krabador> luigino773, non la fai da li, a meno di avere un'altra pendrive
[21:20] <luigino773> ho visto il primo screen dal sito
[21:20] <luigino773> step 4: quanto lascio?
[21:21] <krabador> luigino773, quanto ti pare
[21:21] <krabador> Lorenzo14, accendi direttamente tenendo premuto
[21:22] <luigino773> ho una chiavetta da 16GB se setto 12GB quei 12GB restano "l'hard disk" di linux mint?
[21:22] <krabador> bene, chiedi a quelli di mint
[21:22] <krabador> !mint | luigino773
[21:22] <ubot-it> luigino773: Per supporto a linuxmint: http://www.linuxmind-italia.org/index.php
[21:23] <Lorenzo14> Ho installato ubuntu sul mac solo che quando lo ho riavviato per accedere al mac non mi funziona più perché mi manda subito a linux anche se premo alt come lo accendo non funge e facendo per 5 volte si è bloccata anche tastiera e mo non funziona più nulla
[21:23] <Lorenzo14> Raga per favore help
[21:23] <Lorenzo14> Anche se tengo premuto alt non mi va
[21:25] <Lorenzo14> Mi dice boot in insicura mode e non mi fa cliccare nnt
[21:27] <Lorenzo14> Krabador ci 6?
[21:30] <Lorenzo14> Kradobar
[21:30] <krabador> prova control r
[21:33] <krabador> Lorenzombgghjj, ti passo i link in italiano dell'installazione per mac
[21:33] <krabador> !mac | Lorenzombgghjj
[21:33] <ubot-it> Lorenzombgghjj: Ubuntu su MacBook Pro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro | Installare Ubuntu sui sistemi Mac Intel: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/UbuntuMacIntel | Download di Ubuntu per PowerPc: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/ImmaginiPowerPc
[21:33] <krabador> e questo, qualora volessi ripristinare
[21:33] <krabador> https://support.apple.com/en-eg/HT201255
[21:34] <Lorenzombgghjj> Non mi funziona perche il boot ubuntu non da il tempo
[21:39] <Lorenzombgghjj> Raga mi aiutate non mi funziona più nulla colpa della insicure mode
[21:40] <cristian_c> Lorenzombgghjj, ?
[21:41] <Carlin0> Lorenzo14> Ho installato ubuntu sul mac solo che quando lo ho riavviato per accedere al mac non mi funziona più perché mi manda subito a linux anche se premo alt come lo accendo non funge e facendo per 5 volte si è bloccata anche tastiera e mo non funziona più nulla
[21:42] <cristian_c> ahhh
[21:42] <Carlin0> io di mac non ne so nulla mai visti
[21:42] <cristian_c> Lorenzombgghjj, non sapevo esistesse una 'insicure mode'
[21:42] <cristian_c> Lorenzombgghjj, che mac?
[21:43] <Carlin0> ecco :P
[21:43] <cristian_c> lol
[21:43] <danielex> ciao a tutti, io vorrei installare ubuntu sul mio portatile, mi consigliate di installare la versione 14lts o la nuova?
[21:44] <cristian_c> danielex, dipende
[21:44] <Carlin0> danielex, ci dici qualcosa di questo pc ? tipo cpu e ram
[21:45] <danielex> intel i3 2,2 ghz, 4gb ram
[21:45] <danielex> 64 bit
[21:46] <cristian_c> danielex, la 14.04 è una lts, la 15.04 non lo è ma in compenso è aggiornata
[21:47] <Carlin0> solo che la 15.04 ha 9 mesi di supporto di cui 2 già passati , la LTS ha 5 anni
[21:48] <danielex> cioè anche se non è supportata a lungo è comunque più aggiornata della 14?
[21:48] <cristian_c> danielex, sì
[21:48] <cristian_c> !rilasci | danielex
[21:48] <ubot-it> danielex: Scalette di rilascio: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Rilasci | Cicli di vita delle versioni: http://www.ubuntu-it.org/progetto/rilasci
[21:48] <Carlin0> ovvio danielex è uscita un anno dopo
[21:49] <danielex> invece come prestazione non dovrei avere problemi?
[21:49] <cristian_c> danielex, non dovresti avere troppi problemi, ma per toglierti dubbi, provala in live, prima di installare
[21:50] <danielex> ok, grazie mille per il supporto!
[21:51] <Lorenzombgghjj> Rieccomi
Lorenzombgghjj, non sapevo esistesse una 'insicure mode'
Lorenzombgghjj, che mac?
[21:51] <Lorenzombgghjj> Mac 2011
[21:51] <cristian_c> Lorenzombgghjj, qualche dettaglio in più?
[21:52] <Lorenzombgghjj> Nel insicure mode non mi funziona la tastiera
[21:52] <Lorenzombgghjj> Mi dice mentre
[21:52] <Lorenzombgghjj> Enter*
[21:52] <Lorenzombgghjj> Ma non va
[21:52] <cristian_c> Lorenzombgghjj, ma cos'è sta 'insicure mode'? O.o
[21:53] <cristian_c> Lorenzombgghjj, intendevo dettagli sul pc
Mac 2011
[21:53] <cristian_c> è vago
[21:53] <Lorenzombgghjj> IMac modello 2011 2.5ghz RAM 4gb
[21:53] <Lorenzombgghjj> 21,5 500Gb
[21:54] <cristian_c> ok
[21:54] <Lorenzombgghjj> Come faccio ora :(
[21:54] <cristian_c> Lorenzombgghjj, come l'hai installato ubuntu?
[21:54] <Lorenzombgghjj> Con DVD
[21:54] <cristian_c> sì sì, ma come?
[21:55] <Lorenzombgghjj> Partizionando disco del mac
[21:55] <Lorenzombgghjj> E ho fatto tutte le procedure
[21:55] <cristian_c> dunque, intel core i5?
[21:55] <Lorenzombgghjj> Si
[21:55] <cristian_c> Lorenzombgghjj, quali procedure?
[21:55] <cristian_c> !mac | Lorenzombgghjj
[21:55] <ubot-it> Lorenzombgghjj: Ubuntu su MacBook Pro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro | Installare Ubuntu sui sistemi Mac Intel: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/UbuntuMacIntel | Download di Ubuntu per PowerPc: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/ImmaginiPowerPc
[21:55] <Lorenzombgghjj> Quelle per installarlo
[21:56] <cristian_c> puoi essere più preciso?
[21:56] <Lorenzombgghjj> Per installare ubuntu con una partizione 4 che ora non ricordo
[21:56] <Lorenzombgghjj> Ti mando il ink
[21:56] <Lorenzombgghjj> Link*
[21:57] <cristian_c> 'partizione 4'
[21:58] <Lorenzombgghjj> http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3pdW4DAvJDM
[21:58] <cristian_c> Lorenzombgghjj, lol
[21:58] <cristian_c> Lorenzombgghjj, http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/UbuntuMacIntel
[21:58] <cristian_c> Lorenzombgghjj, e tu installi ubuntu guardando i video su iutubbo?
[21:59] <Lorenzombgghjj> Non capivo nulla nella spiegazione
[22:00] <Lorenzombgghjj> Mo come diavolo faccio
[22:02] <Lorenzo90> Scusa si era tolta connessione
[22:03] <cristian_c> Lorenzo90, la prossima volta, invece di guardarti il video sul 'tubbbo', consulta le risorse ufficiali di ubuntu
[22:03] <cristian_c> Lorenzo90, http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/UbuntuMacIntel
[22:04] <Lorenzo90> E come faccio a usare il PC?
[22:05] <Lorenzo90> Managgia la putta** ***
[22:05] <cristian_c> Lorenzo90, in che senso?
[22:05] <cristian_c> Lorenzo90, calma e fai un bel respiro
[22:05] <Lorenzo90> È inutilizzabile
[22:05] <cristian_c> cosa?
[22:05] <cristian_c> !dettagli | Lorenzo90
[22:05] <ubot-it> Lorenzo90: Per favore dacci dettagli completi. Per esempio "Ho un problema con..., sto usando Ubuntu versione... con interfaccia.... Quando provo a fare..., ottengo questo output: ..., ma mi sarei aspettato che facesse..."
[22:05] <Lorenzo90> Io cerco di resettarlo ma appare sta insicure mode
[22:06] <cristian_c> Lorenzo90, mai sentito parlare di 'insicure mode' , a cosa ti riferisci?
[22:09] <Lorenzo90> Allora accendo il computer (ho provato anche con tutti i comandi della Apple per il reset) ma dopo solo 8 secondi appare un boot con scritto Booting in Insicure Mode questo boot e la versione 2.02 beta 2 e sta scritto premere enter ma io anche se premo non succede nulla come se la tastiera non funziona la versione di ubuntu è l'ultima perche oggi
[22:09] <Lorenzo90> lo ho scaricato
[22:10] <cristian_c> Lorenzo90, allora
[22:10] <cristian_c> secondo me dipende da cosa hai fatto
[22:10] <Lorenzo90> http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3pdW4DAvJDM
[22:11] <Lorenzo90> Questo ho fatto
[22:11] <cristian_c> no no, quello che hai fatto tu
[22:11] <Lorenzo90> Questo..
[22:11] <cristian_c> è il caso che tu descriva esattamente cosa fai dopo l'accensione del pc
[22:11] <cristian_c> cosa appare, ecc...
[22:12] <Lorenzo90> Appare un boot
[22:12] <Lorenzo90> Del ubuntu
[22:12] <Lorenzo90> Hai skype ti faccio video?
[22:12] <cristian_c> Lorenzo90, non hai il grub?
[22:12] <Lorenzo90> Sto col cell non so se sia compatibile
[22:13] <cristian_c> Lorenzo90, intendo sul mac
[22:13] <Lorenzo90> Cristian non posso avviarlo
[22:13] <Lorenzo90> Questo boot me lo impedisce
[22:13] <cristian_c> Lorenzo90, che cosa?
[22:13] <cristian_c> ma hai il grub sul mac?
[22:13] <cristian_c> appare?
[22:13] <Lorenzo90> No
[22:13] <cristian_c> e cosa appare?
[22:14] <Lorenzo90> Hai skype cosi ti.faccio vedere meglio
[22:14] <cristian_c> Lorenzo90, hai fatto il backup della tabella delle partizioni?
[22:14] <cristian_c> (come da guida wiki)
[22:14] <cristian_c> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/UbuntuMacIntel#Backup_della_tabella_delle_partizioni
[22:14] <Lorenzo90> Si
[22:15] <cristian_c> hai installato refit?
[22:15] <Lorenzo90> Si
[22:16] <cristian_c> Lorenzo90, puoi postare una schermata di gparted?
[22:16] <cristian_c> e anche di refit
[22:16] <Lorenzo90> Cosa?
[22:16] <Lorenzo90> Come faccio?
[22:16] <cristian_c> !image | Lorenzo90
[22:16] <ubot-it> Lorenzo90: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[22:16] <Lorenzo90> Foto?
[22:16] <cristian_c> di refit sì
[22:17] <cristian_c> Lorenzo90, per gparted ti basta premere il tasto stamp
[22:19] <Lorenzo90> Non me la passa col cell
[22:19] <Lorenzo90> Allora
[22:19] <cristian_c> ?
[22:20] <Lorenzo90> Rispondimi in privato
[22:20] <cristian_c> no
[22:20] <cristian_c> questo è il canale di supporto
[22:20] <Lorenzo90> Hai what app?
[22:20] <cristian_c> non si fa supporto in privato
[22:20] <Lorenzo90> Così facilitiamo tutto
[22:20] <cristian_c> Lorenzo90, che problemi hai a caricare una foto?
[22:21] <Lorenzo90> Non la posso caricare con il cell
[22:21] <cristian_c> per facilitare il tutto
[22:21] <cristian_c> Lorenzo90, motivazione=
[22:21] <cristian_c> *?
[22:22] <thewelldone> ha paura
[22:22] <Lorenzo90> Ma non mi funziona la tastiera quando apre il boot
[22:22] <cristian_c> thewelldone, se vi conoscete, puoi convincerlo
Non la posso caricare con il cell
[22:23] <Lorenzo90> Apre il boot è non va
[22:23] <cristian_c> Lorenzo90, non puoi scattare la foto con il cellulare stesso?
[22:23] <Lorenzo90> Lo fatta
Lorenzo90, che problemi hai a caricare una foto?
[22:24] <Lorenzo90> Come la carico??????
[22:25] <Lorenzo90> Te la posso dare via e-mail
Lorenzo90: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[22:28] <Lorenzo90> https://i.imgur.com/3mdsPeHh.jpg
[22:28] <cristian_c> Lorenzo90, hai detto che grub non appariva
[22:29] <Lorenzo90> Qual'è il problema?
ma hai il grub sul mac?
appare?
No
[22:30] <cristian_c> Lorenzo90, non c'è molto da girarci intorno, hai peraltro postato solo una parte della schermata
[22:30] <Lorenzo90> Ora posto altro
[22:31] <cristian_c> Lorenzo90, una foto che inquadri tutto lo schermo sarebbe utile
[22:31] <cristian_c> Lorenzo90, tra l'altro non ho capito perché prima hai negato di avere il grub
[22:33] <Lorenzo90> GRUB?
[22:33] <cristian_c> Lorenzo90, almeno l'hai guardata la foto che hai postato?
https://i.imgur.com/3mdsPeHh.jpg
[22:34] <Lorenzo90> https://i.imgur.com/U2tZt1ih.jpg
[22:35] <Lorenzo90> https://i.imgur.com/lqA3rZDh.jpg
[22:35] <cristian_c> ah, va beh, sei appassionato di primi piani
[22:35] <Lorenzo90> https://i.imgur.com/N4nClTzh.jpg
[22:36] <cristian_c> Lorenzo90, comunque, come è scritto nella guida: 'rEFIt sostituirà GRUB all'avvio del PC, pertanto sarà impossibile avviare Ubuntu in assenza della sua installazione. '
[22:36] <cristian_c> sì, ok, ho visto dal logo che è un imac
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2024-05-13T22:11:34.226161
| 2015-06-17T00:00:00 |
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2015-06-17-#ubuntu-es
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[07:02] * merrick Buenos días
[10:28] <filisko_> buenas
[10:28] <filisko_> por qué cuando cambio de Radiant-Mate
[10:28] <filisko_> el tema
[10:28] <filisko_> a otro
[10:28] <filisko_> se quita por ejemplo el gtk
[10:29] <filisko> por qué cuando cambio de apariencia en ubuntu mate, se quita el gtk de synaptic o el applet network manager?
[14:56] <ricard> hola,tengo instalado un pen drive y para que me lo lea y me deje grabar cosas en el he tenido que hacer una particion,me sale un icono que pone scd pero me dice que para montarlo tengo que tener permiso root para /dev/sdc/mnt/sdc
[14:58] <ricard> eso me lo dice en dispositivos en el lanzador no me deja hacer nada
[14:59] <ricard> que puedo hacer??
[15:00] <ricard> y en discos no me sale reflejado
[15:00] <ricard> solo en dispositivos
[15:03] <ricard> nadie sabe nada del tema?
[15:06] <ricard> hola?
[15:06] <ricard> algun alma caritativa
[15:08] <Div_By_Zer0> ricard, \o
[15:08] <ricard> que es \o
[15:09] <Div_By_Zer0> ricard, un saludo
[15:10] <ricard> sabes algo de lo que he comentado del pendrive
[15:11] <Div_By_Zer0> ricard, recien ingrese comentame a ver si puedo ayudarte
[15:14] <ricard> tengo instalado un pendrive y he tenido que hacer una particion para que pueda grabar cosas en el ,y en dipositivos me sale un dipositivo llamado sdc que cuando intento abrirlo me dice que no se puede montar que necesito permiso root /dev/sdc/mnt/sdc,sabes a que puede ser debido??
[15:15] <ricard> y en discos no me sale reflejado sdc
[15:15] <Div_By_Zer0> ricard, proba con sudo fdisk -l
[15:15] <Div_By_Zer0> a ver que te tira
[15:17] <ricard> me tira esto:isco /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
[15:17] <ricard> 255 cabezas, 63 sectores/pista, 121601 cilindros, 1953525168 sectores en total
[15:17] <ricard> Unidades = sectores de 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[15:17] <ricard> Tamaño de sector (lógico / físico): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
[15:17] <ricard> Tamaño E/S (mínimo/óptimo): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
[15:19] <Div_By_Zer0> ricard, no te sale una tabla con las particiones?
[15:20] <ricard> como es para hacer un pastebin?
[15:20] <Div_By_Zer0> ricard, pastebin.com?
[15:20] <Div_By_Zer0> ricard, https://lapertenencia.wordpress.com/2012/11/01/montar-y-desmontar-unidades-por-consola/
[15:21] <herrkin> saludos amigos de la comunidad de ubuntu-es, tengo un problema desde hace una semana con unos modems huaweii, cuando conecto los modems en dmesg me aparecen 3 ttyUSB por cada uno de ellos pero cuando los busco en /dev/ no existen, solo hay un archivo huawei_mobile que no es accesible cmo puerto. alguien me puede ayudar con esto?
[15:21] <herrkin> lo curioso es que uno de ellos funcionaba pero al instalar el otro no pude accesar a ninguno de los dos luego
[15:22] <herrkin> antes si me aparecian los ttyUSB
[15:28] <ricard> esta es la pagina donde esta el pastebin:http://pastebin.com/yXjRjvUF
[15:30] <ernalve> buenas, tengo un problema: utilizo ubuntu 14.04 y desinstalé Unity para probar el escritorio Mate, porque escuché que sería más ágil. Pero mientras se instalaba mate, presioné alt-tab y la sesión se cerró. Desde entonces, no puedo loguearme con mi usuario y contraseña, ya que dice que mi contraseña es incorrecta. ¿Qué puedo hacer para recuperar mi
[15:30] <ernalve> querido ubuntu?
[15:31] <ricard> div_by_zer0:que me opinas
[15:36] <Div_By_Zer0> ricard, yo haria sudo mkdir /media/pendrive
[15:36] <Div_By_Zer0> ricard, sudo mount -t vfat /media/sdc1 /media/pendrive
[15:41] <Div_By_Zer0> ernalve, crea otro usuario seria una opcion
[15:42] <ernalve> ok, reinicio y pruebo esa opción. es que ahora estoy en windows para tratar de resolver el problema. pruebo y les cuento
[15:43] <ricard> el primero me dice que el archivo ya existe, y el segundo el dispositivo especial /media/sdc1 no existe
[15:43] <Div_By_Zer0> ricard, me equivoque perdon
[15:44] <Div_By_Zer0> por las dudas
[15:44] <Div_By_Zer0> sudo umount /media/pendrive
[15:44] <ricard> tranquilo
[15:44] <Div_By_Zer0> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /media/pendrive
[15:46] <ricard> el segundo sudo no hace nada
[15:47] <Div_By_Zer0> ricard, cual de los ?
[15:47] <ricard> que hago lo dejo como lo tengo e ignoro lo de sdc en dispositivos
[15:48] <ricard> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /media/pendrive
[15:48] <Div_By_Zer0> ricard, ahora
[15:48] <Div_By_Zer0> cd /media/pendrive
[15:48] <Div_By_Zer0> ls
[15:48] <Div_By_Zer0> a ver que te muestra
[15:55] <ricard> esta es la pagina del pastebin:http://pastebin.com/3xRkZ5BY
[15:55] <Div_By_Zer0> ricard, ahi esta montado
[15:55] <Div_By_Zer0> salen todos los archivos de tu pendriver
[15:57] <ricard> entonces ignoro lo de sdc en dispositivos ya que en discos no me sale
[15:57] <ricard> y utolizo el pendrive como hasta ahora?
[15:58] <Div_By_Zer0> ricard, como mas te guste... es raro que no te lo monte automaticamente...
[16:00] <Div_By_Zer0> ricard, antes de retirar tu pendrive
[16:00] <Div_By_Zer0> sudo umount /media/pendrive
[16:00] <ricard> no si montarlo con la particion echa lo monta automaticamente pero lo raro es que en dispositivos y en la barra de lanzadores me sale un sdc
[16:00] <ricard> porque?
[16:01] <Div_By_Zer0> ricard, ni idea...
[16:01] <Div_By_Zer0> ricard, sdc
[16:01] <Div_By_Zer0> es la raiz de tu pendriver
[16:01] <Div_By_Zer0> sdc1 es la particion creada
[16:02] <ricard> porque sudo umount /media/pendrive
[16:02] <Div_By_Zer0> ricard, para poder extraer tu pendrive de forma segura...
[16:03] <ricard> luego cuando lo ponga se leera igual?
[16:04] <Div_By_Zer0> ricard, nop... eso que hicimos seria la forma manual
[16:05] <ricard> entonces lo quito normalmente que luego me lo lee bien deacuerdo?
[16:06] <Div_By_Zer0> ricard, proba...
[16:06] <ricard> lo he quitado y lo he vuelto a poner y me lo lee bien
[16:07] <Div_By_Zer0> cool
[16:07] <ricard> gracias por tu paciencia hasta luego
[16:08] <ricard> adios a todos/as
[16:09] <Div_By_Zer0> ricard, \o
[16:09] <ricard> Div_By_Zer0 gracias
[17:49] <ernalve> Hola, me comuniqué antes por este problema. Lo reitero: quise reemplazar el escritorio Unity con Mate, pero después de haber desinstalado Unity y mientras instalaba Mate se cerró mi sesión de usuario y no he podido volver a ingresar. Tengo Ubuntu 14 y los códigos que seguí fueron estos para desinstalar unity http://blog.desdelinux.net/eliminar-unit
[17:49] <ernalve> y-e-instalar-mate-cinnamon-ubuntu-14-10/
[17:50] <ernalve> y estos otros para instalar Mate http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/08/install-mate-desktop-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[17:51] <ernalve> Ahora cada vez que prendo la laptop, Ubuntu muestra la pantalla de inicio de sesión y cuando escribo mi contraseña dice que el intento de inicio de sesión ha fallado. Tampoco puedo entrar como invitado. ¿Qué me sugieren?
[18:13] <ernalve> holaaaaaa
[18:17] <MrTulias> Yo no controlo del tema, pero se me ocurre que podrías arrancar sin el entorno gráfico (creo que es el modo seguro o algo así) e intentar instalar el escritorio entonces
[18:24] <ernalve> podría probar, sabés cómo entrar al modo seguro?
[18:26] <MrTulias> En el 'recovery mode', una de las opciones. Igual es sesión monousuario, no recuerdo
[18:26] <MrTulias> Pero hay una en la que arrancas sin entorno gráfico (lo que borraste)
[18:29] <MrTulias> Según el grub que tengas te saldrá el listado de kernels (generic y recovery de cada uno) u 'opciones avanzadas, en la que te aparece el listado
[18:30] <ernalve> bien, he explorado por ahí, pero no he logrado avances. intentaré otra vez y te cuento
[18:31] <MrTulias> Ok, pero como dije no controlo apenas
[18:31] <MrTulias> suerte
[18:34] <successus> salud o/
[18:42] <santuxcho> buenas
[18:43] <santuxcho> Nuevos canales en español #freecad-es y #librecad-es
[18:43] <santuxcho> para los usuarios de esas app
[22:28] <Maca> hola?
[22:28] <Maca> necesito ayuda, alguien que quiera cooperar?
[22:34] <kurama10> Maca: suelta la pregunta
[22:35] <guampa> !alguien
[22:41] <Maca> okk, soy una despistada con el tema "tecnología", para qué fin es este chat? sólo entre por curiosidad y me tope con esto.
[22:41] <guampa> es para consultas sobre Ubuntu
[22:42] <Maca> qué es obuntu?
[22:42] <guampa> un sistema operativo
[22:42] <guampa> como lo es Windows, por ejemplo
[22:42] <Maca> sí, si eso entiendo.
[22:43] <Maca> es lo que sería huayra, no?
[22:44] <guampa> huayra es otro sistema operativo, tiene en comun con Ubuntu que ambos usan el mismo kernel (Linux) y muchas otros programas tambien en comun
[22:44] <guampa> pero son dos sistemas distintos
[22:46] <Maca> ahh, bueno...y este chat tiene la finalidad de ayudar con programación y esas cosas, no?
[22:46] <guampa> no, solo con Ubuntu
[22:47] <guampa> para cosas generales de tecnologia, o no tecnologia, o charla general usamos #ubuntu-es-cafe
[22:48] <Maca> ahhh, gracias guampa. Igual...mucho acá no encajo, ya veré como desinstalar el chat no le veo uso! Gracias por la ayuda.
[22:49] <guampa> x nada Maca
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2024-05-13T22:11:34.250747
| 2015-06-17T00:00:00 |
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2015-06-17-#juju
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[07:31] <dimitern> charmers o/
[07:31] <dimitern> anyone around?
[07:31] <dimitern> I'm thinking of creating a simple subordinate charm that has actions returning various networking settings - iptables, routes, etc.
[07:31] <dimitern> So, can a subordinate have actions of its own?
[08:00] <lazyPower> dimitern: it can
[08:01] <dimitern> lazyPower, yeah, I've even found a good example with the chaos monkey
[08:01] <dimitern> :)
[08:02] <lazyPower> +1 for that
[11:05] <dimitern> lazyPower, hey, still around?
[11:05] <lazyPower> o/ dimitern
[11:06] <dimitern> lazyPower, I have a couple of actions questions if you have some time
[11:06] <lazyPower> surely
[11:07] <dimitern> lazyPower, so is there an accepted way to implement an action like "run something and get me the output" ?
[11:07] <dimitern> lazyPower, like, should the output be a param? or it could be dumped (without extra YAML) by action do / fetch
[11:08] <lazyPower> i dont think the output necessarily needs to be a param unless you need dynamic output data. action-set will take care of giving you the data points you care about.
[11:08] <lazyPower> a really good overview of this can be seen by the benchmark actions marco's team implemented. let me fish up one, 1 sec
[11:08] <dimitern> ah, that'll definitely help
[11:08] <lazyPower> https://github.com/juju-solutions/siege
[11:09] <lazyPower> notables: siege is paramterized, the output is parsed from json and stashed in the action dictionary for the run
[11:09] <lazyPower> that should get you a good start w/ how to implement a well-defined action, and have meaningful results available to consume outside of your env.
[11:10] <dimitern> thanks a lot! I'll look at that in detail
[11:11] <marcoceppi> dimitern: you should never just dump yaml
[11:11] <marcoceppi> dimitern: use action-set instead to relay data back
[11:12] <lazyPower> morning marcoceppi
[11:12] <dimitern> marcoceppi, but action-set returns YAML (or JSON I guess) - is there a way to dump a given param as-is?
[11:13] <lazyPower> action-set returns something? thats news...
[11:13] <dimitern> lazyPower, sorry, I meant juju action fetch <ID>
[11:13] <lazyPower> dimitern: did you mean juju action fetch?
[11:13] <lazyPower> ok
[11:13] <lazyPower> :)
[11:13] <dimitern> :)
[11:13] <lazyPower> i was like "uh oh, what changed"
[11:14] <lazyPower> yeah, no the fetch aiui returns the full data feed, you cannot narrow it down to specific keys without parsing it
[11:14] <lazyPower> maybe in a future revision?
[11:14] <dimitern> right, well if it does - it does, I'll parse it then :)
[11:14] <lazyPower> some fancy jq combined with --format=json
[11:15] <dimitern> yeah, it'll help to have "juju action fetch <ID> [param], returning only that part of the results
[11:16] <dimitern> lazyPower, so no concept of "output params", e.g. in that example doing a db backup and taking outfile=foo.tar.bz2
[11:17] <dimitern> this won't actually mean foo.tar.bz2 will be created in the $PWD where you run juju action fetch
[11:17] <lazyPower> i would suggest you provide fullpath to foo.tar.bz2, that way you can parse that key and pipe that to juju scp
[11:18] <dimitern> right
[11:18] <lazyPower> But i dont think its possible to set file contents like that and have it automagically fetched. its a 2 step process
[11:18] <lazyPower> run proc, get data, action on data.
[11:19] <dimitern> yeah, unless fetch provides the sync-point where the foo.tar.bz2 gets created when fetch is called in a certain way
[11:21] <dimitern> lazyPower, the tip about jq is awesome though!
[11:21] <dimitern> thanks :)
[11:25] <lazyPower> np happy to help dimitern :)
[12:39] <lazyPower> marcoceppi: silly question, i know how to trigger relations on another host out of band, eg: mysql:17 - but if i'm same host, and in a different relationship context - are there any amenities to help me kick off a *-relation-changed event aside from caching relation data thats missing, and stuffing that in a direct execution to the hook?
[12:40] <marcoceppi> lazyPower: you mean, kick off a relationship on the same unit that you're currently running a hook?
[12:41] <lazyPower> yeah. I'm in a position to proxy data between hook contexts
[12:41] <marcoceppi> lazyPower: like, service foo has a bar and baz relation, kick off bar from the baz relation?
[12:41] <lazyPower> yep
[12:41] <marcoceppi> not really, just need to abstract away the underlying code for bar so that it's invokable from baz, like a pyhton method
[12:41] <lazyPower> when i relation_set(baz, mydata) - it triggers execution on the remote host, not the same host.
[12:41] <marcoceppi> right
[12:42] <lazyPower> ok, i figured taht would be the case
[12:42] * lazyPower snaps
[12:43] <lazyPower> fg
[12:47] <marcoceppi> bg
[21:08] <marlinc> Is it possible to take advantage of OpenStack security groups when using Juju to deploy services?
[21:14] <jrwren> marlinc: to what end?
[21:14] <marlinc> Well I would like to setup security groups to firewall off some machine parts
[21:15] <marlinc> Like giving a webserver only access to the ports that NFS uses for storage
[21:15] <marlinc> And its only possible to for example access the webserver on port 80
[21:18] <jrwren> marlinc: i cannot answer. sorry.
[21:19] <marlinc> No problem
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2015-06-17-#xubuntu
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[08:12] <the-erm> Hello, does anyone know how to get .flv files to play with gstreamer? I've tried installing every good, bad and ugly plugin I can find, but to no avail. Gstreamer keeps telling me missing plugin.
[08:13] <the-erm> I have a media player I've been working on for years that relies on gstreamer.
[08:13] <the-erm> It's an h264 file for the record.
[09:30] <jordan_> has anybody had a problem where the login screen sits at a solid colour until there's a mouse click? I've got Xubuntu 15.04
[09:59] <jordan_> exit
[12:02] <Luyin> I've changed my cursor theme to dmz black. but on some elements, like the window panes, in hexchat, and on the xfdesktop, I still get the white dmz cursor. how can I fix that?
[13:57] <Luyin> I've changed my cursor theme to dmz black. but on some elements, like the window panes, in hexchat, and on the xfdesktop, I still get the white dmz cursor. how can I fix that?
[13:58] <brainwash> Luyin: maybe try "xfwm4 --replace"
[13:58] <koegs> Luyin: edit /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme
[13:58] <koegs> thats my workaround
[14:00] <Luyin> koegs so it's a somewhat known bug?
[14:01] <brainwash> it's a known bug, but still unresolved
[14:01] <Luyin> ah okay. thanks for pointing that out
[14:01] <brainwash> does my command fix it (temporary)?
[14:01] <koegs> Luyin: not sure, i think i change that file at least since 12.04
[14:01] <Luyin> brainwash doesn't look like it, no
[14:02] <brainwash> ok
[14:02] <Luyin> neither does your workaround, koegs. or do I have to log out and in again after that?
[14:04] <koegs> i would do so
[14:04] <Luyin> ok, hang on, brb
[14:05] <Luyin> koegs it worked, thanks!
[14:06] <koegs> np
[14:06] <Luyin> so as long as the bug is unresolved, I could always just edit that file instead of setting the cursor in the xfsettings dialogue?
[17:36] <ax562> thanks for all the help yesterday all
[17:36] <ax562> looks like windows updated and turned fastboot on without asking or me knowing
[17:37] <ax562> I turned off again and I can mount ntfs partition again :)
[17:38] <GridCube> :)
[17:41] <w30> ax562, amazing how windows always knows what's best for you. (sarcasm)
[17:43] <ax562> yeah, I'll give them this, they really stepped up there game with 8.1 imho. Thing is blazing fast and efficient.
[17:43] <ax562> but turning on features that I have already chose to turn off is not the business
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2015-06-17-#ubuntu-uk
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[01:51] <daftykins> hrmm video on the xbox about the backwards compatibility, they've basically written an emulator that has a slimmed down version of the 360 dashboard...
[01:52] <daftykins> so then you download every title as a package
[01:56] <zmoylan-pi> does it emulate the red rings of death? :-)
[01:58] <daftykins> such pessimism
[02:49] <zmoylan-pi> will there be an addon pack to scratch discs? :-)
[02:56] <daftykins> never had that
[03:15] <diddledan> so it seems osx 10.11 (el capitan, beta) can't erase optical discs via the UI
[03:16] <diddledan> and therefore telling it to "burn image" from the right-click menu on a .iso file just tells you that you need to erase the media first (when you're reusing a previously burnt disc)
[03:17] <diddledan> and.. it must be summer.. there's brightness in the sky already and it's still only 4:20
[03:18] <zmoylan-pi> the birds will start tweeting soon enough, how they pay for internet access is another story...
[03:18] <diddledan> they use wireless
[03:20] <zmoylan-pi> then why are they always perched on phone wires?
[03:20] <diddledan> http://www.drzvrs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/wifi-bird.jpeg
[03:23] <diddledan> so. bq e5 is launched on the 22nd without a queue. the meizu is undated yet, and will have a weird origami thing to solve to get access to the queue, but is a beast of a phone. do I wait for the meizu or order the bq?
[03:24] <diddledan> we need popey to do some secret espionage things to give us advice on such matterws
[03:26] <zmoylan-pi> he can typo once for yes and twice for no... :-)
[03:27] * diddledan tpyos there temis
[03:33] * diddledan tpyos there temis again
[04:38] <mapps> yello
[04:38] <mapps> ;D
[04:39] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[04:39] <mapps> playing paddle tomorrow
[04:39] <mapps> ;]
[04:39] <mapps> im rather rubbish heh
[05:57] <diddledan> mornin all
[06:28] <knightwise> hey diddledan
[07:04] <MooDoo> hello all
[07:05] <diddledan> m00
[07:08] <MooDoo> :)
[07:30] <TheGeek> morning
[07:31] <popey> hello
[08:09] <ne2k> is it possible to see the contents of a print job that's on the queue, i.e. an image showing what will be printed? I've googled for "show contents of print job on queue cups OR ubuntu" and similar things but the results are all just about viewing the list of jobs, not the contents
[08:11] <TwistedLucidity> ne2k: I may well be wrong, but I am going to go with "No". To show an image, something would have to render it and I doubt the queue manager would be able to do that from the data it has
[08:11] <TwistedLucidity> Be a really neat feature to have though
[08:12] <ne2k> TwistedLucidity, so, by the time it hits the print spool directory, it's been converted into a format specific to that printer, and the generic data before that has been discarded? so to view it, you'd need to have an emulator for /that/ printer.
[08:13] <TwistedLucidity> ne2k: Was a total guess on my part. *Something* has to know what it's going to look like (the printer needs to print it!) it's more a case of whether or not that "something" can be asked to show page 1.
[08:14] <TwistedLucidity> I guess it's possible in theory, but the fact it isn't done makes me thing the API etc simply doens't exist.
[08:15] <TwistedLucidity> But I'd wait for an expert. I'm probably talking out my hat.
[08:15] <diddledan> there might be a .ps file somewhere in /var while it's in the queue
[08:15] <ne2k> TwistedLucidity, seems there's a PDF file in /var/spool/cups/d*<jobno>*
[08:15] <diddledan> probably something in /var/spool/cups
[08:16] <diddledan> ^ that
[08:16] <ne2k> diddledan, try... every job ever printed is still there
[08:17] <TwistedLucidity> Really?
[08:17] <diddledan> hmm, that could become a diskspace sinkhole then :-p
[08:17] * TwistedLucidity goes to check
[08:17] <TwistedLucidity> Yowzah!
[08:17] <diddledan> how many?
[08:18] <ne2k> thirty-eight
[08:18] <ne2k> (I'm not a heavy printer user, as you can possibly tell)
[08:18] <TwistedLucidity> I've got the dirs, but they all appear to be emtpy...
[08:19] <ne2k> I just have lots of d* and c* files
[08:19] <TwistedLucidity> Anyway, there's the PDF/ps in there - guess it's a case of getting it on the screen. Could the print manager hook the "preview" feature than many file managers have? Or could the driver/whatever genrate a raster for the queue manager?
[08:20] <ne2k> TwistedLucidity, that would be handy
[08:21] <TwistedLucidity> I actually deal with similar problems in my day job, just not with printers.
[08:22] <TwistedLucidity> Yeah, I seem to have some PDFs, some ps files and some...goodness knows whats
[08:22] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:22] <diddledan> allo
[08:24] <TheGeek> howdy
[08:24] <TwistedLucidity> ne2k: Seems I only get previews for image files, not PDFs/ODTs etc. Guess there would a big performance hit in constantly calling the relevant apps unless they generated a raster at save time and that was (somehow) linked in a known way to the native.
[08:43] <TwistedLucidity> Out of curiosity, does anything clean-up /var/spool/cups ? I would have assumed the files got deleted once the job had been run.
[08:43] <foobarry> are they successful print jobs
[08:43] <foobarry> i expect anything sitting in spool has not printed (yet)
[08:46] <awilkins> Nope, my /var/spool/cups is full of files
[08:46] <awilkins> Not printed anything in months
[08:48] <foobarry> how old are the files
[08:48] <foobarry> oh yeah, i have tiny files
[08:49] <foobarry> going back to install date
[08:49] <foobarry> "2) PreserveJobHistory No is not in my 8.04 cups.conf; it had to be added.
[08:49] <foobarry> "
[08:50] <foobarry> i think thats the answer TwistedLucidity
[08:50] <foobarry> vi /etc/cups/cupsd.conf.default
[08:50] <foobarry> woops
[08:50] <TwistedLucidity> Ahhhhhh.....
[08:50] <foobarry> how id that autocomplete from irssi :S
[08:51] <TwistedLucidity> I'll check the GUI in a moment...just out of curiosity
[08:51] <awilkins> There's an option
[08:51] <awilkins> "Advanced server settings"
[08:52] <awilkins> Default is "preserve job history but not files"
[08:59] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Eat Your Vegetables Day!
[09:01] <davmor2> JamesTait: what is it with you and vegetables recently
[09:04] <JamesTait> Must be something in the water, davmor2.
[09:05] * davmor2 bans JamesTait from drinking the water so we can either have meatier days or geekier days
[09:05] <JamesTait> Apple Strudel Day?
[09:06] <davmor2> JamesTait: that'll do
[09:07] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:08] <davmor2> brobostigon: I logged off when you asked your question last night, the chat stuff I don't think is on the tickets at all yet, too many things to get right with what we have :)
[09:10] <diddledan> hmm, methinks my old lga775 mobo's sata is dying
[09:10] <JamesTait> brobostigon, o/
[09:10] <diddledan> getting "ATA bus error"
[09:11] <brobostigon> davmor2: very true, yes, however it is something, one of us can work out how to do, and then pass it onto them, less work for them as well.
[09:11] <brobostigon> morning JamesTait
[09:12] <davmor2> brobostigon: indeed there is nothing that I know to to stop a person contributing to the project at all
[09:12] <brobostigon> davmor2: thats my thinking as well, :)
[09:21] <diddledan> ok, moving the drive to a different port seems to have sorted it
[10:35] <Myrtti> well it is a good vegetable season
[10:36] <Myrtti> I've already had first veggies from our Hozelock boxes
[10:36] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:36] <bashrc> morning
[10:36] <foobarry> whats a hozelock box myrrti?
[10:36] <foobarry> Myrtti:
[10:37] <Myrtti> http://www.hozelock.com/wateringsolutions/flower-vegetable-waterer-2811-1970.html
[10:37] <Myrtti> they've got a growbag version too
[10:37] <Myrtti> it's a bit dear but spares from good amount of stress
[10:41] <Myrtti> the knitting machine is turning out great fun.
[10:41] <Myrtti> I've ordered the Arduino parts for it now
[10:48] <bashrc> knitting machine?
[10:51] <Myrtti> yeah. Brother Electroknit KH-910, originally using Mylar sheets and an optical reader to electronically control the needles for doing different knitting patterns
[10:52] <Myrtti> take the original control board off and it can be modified to be controlled on any computer by the help of an Arduino Uno and a specific shield made for it
[10:55] <Myrtti> works a treat in Ubuntu :->
[10:55] <davmor2> Myrtti: did you ever get your sound issue fixed by the way?
[10:57] <Myrtti> I complained hard enough to DellCares on Twitter, I think the "I've tried it now with LiveUSB of Ubuntu and problem persists, also, if this were Developer Version of XPS13 9333, how would you treat me then" did the trick and they've apparently scheduled something to happen, I assume a phone call
[11:00] <davmor2> Myrtti: :(
[11:04] <intrbiz> I always hate stupid tech support and having to pull the line, that I know what I'm talking about, so stop with the bs
[11:05] <directhex> most people who pull that line... don't
[11:06] <Myrtti> well I just didn't want to reinstall Windows just to run a diagnostics test...
[11:29] <TheGeek> alrighty
[12:00] <Myrtti> kek http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/jun/17/kitchen-gadgets-review-ikettle-boil-phone
[12:02] <popey> czajkowski: is that the kettle you have!?
[12:02] <popey> it looks familiar
[12:04] <popey> his reviews are very funny!
[12:04] <popey> http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/jun/10/kitchen-gadgets-review-immersible-egg-timer-yolk-burstingly-good
[12:04] <popey> "There was also a slight smell the first time I used it, which kind of reminded me I was boiling a lump of plastic with my breakfast"
[12:14] <bigcalm> Eugh, I had one of those egg timers. Didn't work well and stank
[12:14] <popey> yeah, someone gave me one of those, never used it
[12:14] <popey> i just use the timer on the oven
[12:14] <popey> we use that for timing _everything_
[12:22] <awilkins> The basic clock app in Android is really good if you have multiple things
[12:22] <awilkins> Because you can add multiple labelled countdown timers
[12:23] <awilkins> An android wall surface in the kitchen would be great if you could set them via voice commands
[12:24] <awilkins> You can set timers by voice but I can't get it to set the labels
[12:26] <popey> or that amazon thing
[12:50] <zmoylan-pi> <unrecognised command arrrrrrghhhh my hand> :-)
[14:34] <czajkowski> popey: nope sage
[14:46] <daftykins> hrmm never used apt in place of apt-get before, nice progress bar
[14:46] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/zwn5vy0zczoosxt/apt-progress.png?dl=0
[15:02] <popey> yeah, i have to keep reminding myself to use apt
[15:02] <daftykins> doesn't seem to have auto-remove so it doesn't appear to do it all?
[15:03] <daftykins> lol "apt remove package+ " will install instead of remove, why would you even...
[15:03] <zmoylan-pi> to flush out the ocd folk who say it's perfectly logical? :-)
[15:05] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/e83vhve5shdm93f/AADzIc9NZrlUiK-Oer-nBlkCa?dl=0
[15:05] <daftykins> my set of pics and a video of a clean setup on that Lenovo X1 Carbon i have here
[15:06] <daftykins> i'm gonna try an ubuntu live session out on it today i think
[16:24] <daftykins> http://i.imgur.com/JJcq37s.jpg - ubuntu unity on this 2560x1440 Lenovo X1 Carbon, 1.25x scaling
[16:26] <daftykins> http://i.imgur.com/0X3yocv.jpg - 1.00x scaling
[16:44] <bigcalm_> Hummf
[16:45] <Myrtti> awwwww http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jun/17/stephen-elop-leaves-microsoft-nokia-smartphones
[16:49] <daftykins> http://i.imgur.com/Ew2Sj46.jpg - CentOS 7 to keep my mate happy ;)
[16:49] <daftykins> no scaling, 3.10 kernel, wifi doesn't work out of the box - poor :>
[17:30] <davmor2> daftykins: but servers don't user wifi ;)
[17:32] <daftykins> heh, my physics PhD mate uses it for all his sciencey software
[18:38] <jpds> daftykins: https://d1rktuf34l9h2g.cloudfront.net/7/75/75c1b58a_3trz9o.jpeg
[18:52] <daftykins> jpds: fail to see the relevance but ok
[18:53] <jpds> daftykins: Last line of your last screenshot.
[18:55] <daftykins> meh
[19:16] <foobarry> anyone bought from tinydeal? seems cheaper for chinese tat than ebay/amazon
[19:16] <foobarry> for same product
[19:20] <davmor2> foobarry: try it and let us know
[19:25] <MartijnVdS> is it like dealextreme?
[19:35] <foobarry> davmor2: i just did
[19:35] <foobarry> http://www.tinydeal.com/fashion-new-xiaomi-miband-smart-bracelet-silicone-band-watch-p-139192.html
[19:54] <foobarry> looks like an ebay seller has just set up a massive store outside of ebay
[20:21] <daftykins> foobarry: probably cheaper as a customer would have less recourse when things go wrong, as opposed to with ebay
[20:49] <diddledan> who's next for the elopalypse, then, now that microsoft has given him the boot
[20:58] <awilkins_> Hah, all as planned
[21:00] <awilkins_> Elop delivers Nokia into MS hands
[21:00] <awilkins_> Paid off. Gets to retire comfy.
[21:06] <zmoylan-pi> they've just released the trojan horse again
[21:08] <awilkins_> No-one would hire him again
[21:08] <awilkins_> Not unless they like the climate in Redmond
[21:08] <zmoylan-pi> never underestimate the stupidity of management
[21:09] <diddledan> he doesn't just do it for redmond tho - he did exactly the samemaneuver with adobe and macromedia IIRC
[21:17] <diddledan> brb, reboobing
[21:22] <zmoylan-pi> brb, rebooting. the 'i may be gone for some time' of our era...
[21:24] <diddledan> lol
[21:25] <diddledan> well we have cars able to drive to the north pole these days
[21:25] <zmoylan-pi> only if they float, and he went walkabout at the southpole
[21:26] <diddledan> southpole, minor detail. and you've not watched topgear
[21:26] <diddledan> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gear:_Polar_Special
[21:26] <zmoylan-pi> i've seen it.
[21:30] <shauno> (that was magnetic north)
[21:31] <shauno> eg canada
[21:31] <m0nkey_> winning!
[21:32] <diddledan_> windows doesn't like me
[21:32] <m0nkey_> i dont like you!
[21:32] <m0nkey_> nah, just kidding
[21:37] <m0nkey_> diddledan_, WHY U NO USE ZNC?
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2015-06-17-#ubuntu-de
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[10:00] <nagetier> Wird die kommende LTS noch 32-bit Systeme unterstützen?
[10:02] <k1l_> du meinst die 16.04?
[10:02] <nagetier> Ja
[10:02] <k1l_> werden wir erst in deren entwicklung sehen. aber langfristig muss 32bit mal sterben
[10:03] <nagetier> Ja, muss ich so hinnehmen ;)
[10:09] <nagetier> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTgxOTQ
[10:09] <kubine> nagetier: Title: Ubuntu 16.04 Might Be The Distribution's Last 32-Bit Release - Phoronix (at www.phoronix.com)
[10:10] <k1l_> der artikel von 2014 spricht davon, dass danach schluss ist. aber das wird sicher erst in der entwicklung von 16.04 entschieden
[10:12] <nagetier> das las sich jetzt so als wäre das entschieden
[10:12] <k1l_> "is considering a proposal"
[10:12] <nagetier> Ja, stimmt
[10:12] <k1l_> überlegt einen vorschlag zu machen
[11:06] <Ishi> hallo zusammen
[11:08] <Ishi> jemand in the house der mir bei einem kleinen problem helfen kann
[11:08] <k1l_> kommt auf das problem an
[11:10] <Ishi> suche ein programm um android als vm laufen zu lassen.habe aber nichts gefunden oder ich bin einfach nur blind
[11:11] <k1l_> was ist mit der android sdk?
[11:11] <Ishi> als zweit info bin eher linux anfänger mein os ist zorin
[11:12] <k1l_> dann frag mal den zorin support was sie dazu sagen.
[11:13] <k1l_> android sdk oder halt virtualbox. aber wie gesagt: die zorin jungs fragen
[11:13] <Ishi> oki danke
[11:29] <Waldblau> Hi. Ich habe ein Problem, bei dessen Lösung ich Hilfe brauche. Ubuntu steckt in einer login-loop. .Xauthority zu löschen und deren Rechte zu überprüfen hat nicht geholfen. Des weiteren kann ich unter dem user-account (login via strg-alt-f1 geht) keine Befehle ausführen. (cannot execute binary file: Exec format error)
[11:32] <dadrc> Waldblau: Was für ein Ubuntu, frisch Updates gemacht?
[11:32] <dadrc> Irgendwas anderes geändert?
[11:32] <dadrc> An der .bashrc rumgespielt?
[11:33] <Waldblau> dadrc: gestern via updater geupdated, weiter genutzt, dann ausgeschaltet. Also quasi seit reboot nach updates
[11:33] <dadrc> Ansonsten mal auf der Commandline einen neuen Nutzer anlegen und gucken, ob es mit dem auch kaputt ist
[11:33] <dadrc> Platte voll?
[11:33] <Waldblau> dadrc: sonst nichts geändert. gestern nur videos geschaut und archlinuxarm auf eine sd karte entpackt
[11:34] <Waldblau> dadrc: ne. platte sollte okay sein. Ich schau' aber eben
[11:35] <dadrc> Guck mal in ~/.xsession-errors
[11:35] <dadrc> Wenn da nichts ist, eventuell Rechte auf /tmp kaputt?
[11:36] <Waldblau> dadrc: da steht ungefähr drin, was ich erwartet hatte.: lightdm-session: /home/uname/bin/cat: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error
[11:36] <Waldblau> gleiches für truncate und ls
[11:37] <Waldblau> und noch einen syntax error bei dbus launch. Könnte allerdings damit zu tun haben, dass cat nicht geht
[11:37] <Waldblau> wie müssten die Rechte auf /tmp sein?
[11:38] <LetoThe2nd> riecht für mich danach, dass da nicht auf die sd-karte entpackt wurde
[11:38] <LetoThe2nd> ein "file" auf eins der nicht laufenden binaries bringt gewissheit... wenn da was von ARMvSonstwas steht, dann isses das.
[11:39] <Waldblau> Leto: Habe ich auch gedacht, ist aber unwahrscheinlich. .tar ins mount verzeichnis kopiert und da entpackt.
[11:39] <Waldblau> ich schau' aber eben
[11:39] <Waldblau> file ist eine gute idee
[11:39] <LetoThe2nd> "unwahrscheinlich" != "geprüft"
[11:39] <Waldblau> korrekt
[11:40] <dadrc> drwxrwxrwt
[11:40] <Waldblau> Leto: Ich bin begeistert. Du hattest recht. Ich kann mir nicht erklären wieso das aus meinem mountverzeichnis rausgeleckt ist.
[11:40] <Waldblau> dadrc: die habe ich auch
[11:40] * LetoThe2nd strikes (again)
[11:41] * Waldblau feiert Leto
[11:41] <Waldblau> Kennt jemand einen quickfix?
[11:41] <LetoThe2nd> jo klar. neuinstallation.
[11:41] <Waldblau> hooray
[11:41] <Waldblau> Genau das wollte ich hören. Zum Glück hatte ich heute nichts anderes vor.
[11:41] <LetoThe2nd> mei, sudo tar x ... kann halt nebenwirkungen haben.
[11:42] <Waldblau> Jo. Geht aber bei der installation nicht anders, weil kein bsdtar.
[11:43] <Waldblau> Naja. Dann auf zum fröhlichen datenretten. Ich danke euch für eure Zeit und Hilfe.
[11:43] <LetoThe2nd> ja mei. was macht man sonst an nem schönen juninachmittag. viel spass.
[11:43] <Waldblau> Weiß auch nicht. Bachelorarbeit schreiben.
[11:44] <Waldblau> Man sollte meinen, dass 5 Semester Informatikstudium und 4 Jahre Linux einen vor so dummen Fehlern bewahren.
[11:44] <LetoThe2nd> ne, es gibt nur eins dass einen vor so was bewahrt: dass man schon mal erlebt hat.
[11:46] <leszek> Ich hab gerade auch ein WTF Gesicht vor meinem Rechner. Und denke an schwarze Magie. Hintergrund md5summen berechnung einer ISO. Wenn ich das zwei drei mal hintereinander mache kommen unterschiedliche md5summen der selben iso heraus. HDD uns SSD gecheckt mit smartmon und fsck.ext4 alles ok. Live System zeigt die korrekte md5summe an auf beiden hdd oder ssd. Sobald ich ins installierte system boote berechnet der die irgendwie random mäßig
[11:47] <LetoThe2nd> leszek: memcheck laufen lassen.
[11:47] <leszek> LetoThe2nd: du meinst das liegt am arbeitsspeicher ? Aber im Live System kommt die richtige md5summe bei raus.
[11:47] <leszek> auf dem selben rechner läuft das live system
[11:47] <LetoThe2nd> leszek: kann ohne weiteres ein zufallstreffer sein, je nachdem wie das caching gerade aussieht
[11:48] <LetoThe2nd> leszek: bei ram defekten ist selten alles kaputt, sondern eher nur ein paar pages. und die systeme laufen unter umständen ewig weiter.
[11:48] <leszek> hmm... ok mal memcheck laufen lassen. Ich teste das jetzt schon seit 2 Stunden soviele zufallstreffer am live system halte ich für ausgeschlossen
[11:48] <leszek> brb reboot
[11:50] <geser> Waldblau: wahrscheinlich enthielt das tar absolute Pfade (mit / am Anfang) und wenn die beim Entpacken nicht entfernt wurden, dann würde es seine Probleme erklären. Je nachdem wieviele Dateien (Programme und Bibliotheken) betroffen sind, könntest du vielleicht mit apt-get --reinstall install die betroffenen Pakete neuinstallieren
[11:51] <Waldblau> Leto: /home/uname/bin ist doch eig. ein symlink oder?
[11:51] <Waldblau> Leto: ergo müsste ein reinstall des systems reichen und ich kann meine /home partition unangetastet lassen oder?
[11:52] <geser> in $HOME/bin kannst du eigene Programme/Skripte ablegen (das Verzeichnis ist im Suchpfad)
[11:53] <Waldblau> geser: Würde auch erklären, warum der Pi erst nicht laufen wollte. Betroffen müssten ja nur die standardfiles sein.
[11:53] <Waldblau> geser: sudo ls (ls geht ja nicht) behauptet $HOME/bin -> /usr/bin
[11:55] <LetoThe2nd> Waldblau: ich elaboriere kurz warum ich dumpf eine neuinstallation empfehle: der korrekturweg wäre, aus einem livesystem mittels file alle betroffenen dateien zu identifizieren, dann zum beispiel über apt-file zu paketen zuzuordnen und diese dann alle zu reinstallieren.
[11:55] <LetoThe2nd> Waldblau: abgesehen davon gibts aber sicher dateien die da nicht direkt auffällig sind (skripte) oder dateien, die im originalsystem gar nicht existiert haben
[11:56] <LetoThe2nd> Waldblau: und je nachdem wie viele bibliotheken zerschossen sind, geht das reinstallieren auch nicht direkt per dpkg aus dem system, sonder nur über rootpfad.
[11:56] <LetoThe2nd> alles in allem so viele eventualitäten dass das system nachher zumindest mackenbehaftet ist, dass ich jederzeit ne neuinstallation vorziehen würde.
[11:57] <LetoThe2nd> andere meinungen sind selbstverständlich auch gültig, aber das ist halt die meinige.
[11:57] <Waldblau> LetoThe2nd: So weit war ich auch. Ich wollte mich bei euch absichern, dass wenn /home/uname/bin -> usr/bin von ls angezeigt wird, dieses bin Verzeichnis auf meiner Systempartition liegt und nicht auf der Partition die als /home gemounted ist
[11:57] <Waldblau> LetoThe2nd: Dann müsste ich die /home partition nicht plattmachen und hätte jetzt keinen Datenrettungsaufwand
[11:58] <LetoThe2nd> Waldblau: ich sags mal so: der symlink riecht komisch.
[11:58] <LetoThe2nd> Waldblau: aber im prinzip sollte nichts dagegen sprechen dein /home zu bewahren.
[11:59] <Waldblau> LetoThe2nd: Läufst du unter ubuntu? Falls ja, was sagt dein ls -l /home/uname/bin ?
[11:59] <LetoThe2nd> Waldblau: hoffentlich gar nix, weils hier keinen benutzer namens "uname" gibt
[12:00] <LetoThe2nd> und mein ~/bin ist ein ganz normales directory wo ich manuell zeug drin deponiere
[12:00] <Waldblau> LetoThe2nd: Ich hoffe, dass das jetzt Ironie war.
[12:00] <Waldblau> LetoThe2nd: Meh. Danke. Full reinstall it is.
[12:00] <LetoThe2nd> Waldblau: nicht die geringste spur ironie, zumindest nicht in den letzten 5-10 minuten.
[12:02] <Waldblau> LetoThe2nd: Deiner Antwort nach muss ich dich dennoch nicht darüber aufklären, dass ich uname als Platzhalter für usernamen benutzt habe. Somit ist alles gut. =)
[12:03] <LetoThe2nd> Waldblau: dann muss ich dich auch nicht drüber aufklären dass uname für jeden ausser dich eigentlich ne ganz andere bedeutung hat und der übliche platzhalter für den benutzernamen $USER ist :-)
[12:04] <LetoThe2nd> hinweis: da könnte jetzt ein klein bisschen ironie dabei gewesen sein.
[12:06] <Waldblau> Meinst du? Ich fand' diese syntaktische Sturköpfigkeit passt ganz gut zum Hero of #ubuntu-de aka "strikes (again)"
[12:07] <Waldblau> Und was ist dieses Ironie?
[12:07] <LetoThe2nd> :-D
[12:08] <LetoThe2nd> Waldblau: wenns ums retten tödlich verunglückter systeme geht ist geser der definitiv grössere held. ich hab nur die meisten pannen auf ARM schon mal hautnah erlebt.
[12:14] <Waldblau> Ohjeh
[12:14] <Waldblau> Naja. Wer macht auch so einen Unsinn.
[12:14] <Waldblau> ARM
[12:14] <Waldblau> Nie wieder sudo nach 3 Uhr und einem Bier.
[12:32] <eisenmann> Hallo @all , kann jemand bei diesem Problem helfen? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/268143
[12:32] <kubine> eisenmann: Title: Question #268143 : Questions : Ubuntu (at answers.launchpad.net)
[12:38] <jokrebel> eisenmann: 14.04? Hat das nicht aktuell Kernel 3.13.0-55
[12:58] <Waldblau> Wow
[12:58] <Waldblau> der reinstall hat grub zerschossen. Mein Rechner bootet jetzt nur noch Windows.
[12:58] <eisenmann> jokrebel: hm, bei mir ist zur zeit 3.16.0-40-generic installiert. hab immer nur fleißig die updates installiert. gestern kam dann der linux-image-3.16.0-41-generic. Ist nur noch nicht active weil ich noch nicht rebootet habe
[12:59] <Waldblau> benutze ich halt jetzt den laptop zum arbeiten. Danke nochmal an @LetoThe2nd, @dadrc und @geser für die Hilfe
[12:59] <Waldblau> Bye. =)
[13:04] <jokrebel> eisenmann: Der fehlende Reboot könnt da schon auch schuld sein.
[13:07] <k1l_> eisenmann: installier die passenden header dazu
[13:07] <eisenmann> jokrebel: na nicht wirklich da ja bei der installation des kernels schon dieser fehler kommt. Es werden die benötigten module des xtables-addons nicht installiert/kompiliert.
[13:09] <eisenmann> k1l: die passenden header sind installiert: i A linux-headers-3.16.0-41 und i A linux-headers-3.16.0-40-generic
[13:10] <k1l_> linux-headers-generic-lts-utopic das ist das enablement stack meta paket für die header
[13:10] <k1l_> dann guck mal im dkms log warum der da nicht die module baut
[13:12] <jokrebel> und die header wurden vor dem letzten Reboot installiert?
[13:15] <eisenmann> k1l: wo finde ich dem dkms log?
[13:17] <k1l_> eisenmann: hmm, scheint keins in /var/log zu sein. dann schau mal ins syslog ob da was auftaucht
[13:17] <eisenmann> jokrebel: ja die header kommen immer mit den kernel updates. habe auch schon ein reinstall des kernel probiert kommt immer der gleiche fehler
[13:19] <eisenmann> k1l: nein im syslog kommt da nix es gibt nur das make.log welches ich hier https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/268143 gepostet habe. Das sagt ja warum die modules nicht gebaut werden. Nur verstehe ich nicht was das bedeutet bzw, was ich tun kann um das problem zu beheben.
[13:19] <kubine> eisenmann: Title: Question #268143 : Questions : Ubuntu (at answers.launchpad.net)
[13:19] <jokrebel> Nach einer Kernelinstallation ist doch ein reboot nötig. Wenn man das ignoriert läuft man IMHO zwangsläufig in Probleme.
[13:22] <eisenmann> jokrebel: ja das ist richtig aber erst mal müssen die module gebaut werden, sonst nützt mir der reboot nix. unter 3.16.0-40-generic geht es ja auch nicht. der hat en reboot schon hinter sich :-)
[13:26] <jokrebel> Na egal. Ich würd jedenfalls erst mal alles auf aktuellsten Stand bringen und lieber einmal zu oft ein "apt update/dist-upgrade gefolgt von reboot" fahren.
[13:30] <dadrc> htop
[13:30] <jokrebel> und warum muss man da was selber bauen? Kann man xtables-addons nicht einfach aus den Paketquellen installieren?
[13:34] <eisenmann> jokrebel: die sind aus den paketquellen, das it ein addon und benötigt zusätzliche kernel modules, die dann leider nicht gebaut werden. wenn ich den kernel installiere fängt er beim kernel update von allein an die module zu bauen und läuft dann in den besagten fehler.
[13:37] <jokrebel> Und wo ist der Kernel her? Meine 14.04.2 haben alle entweder 3.13.0-55 oder aber 3.19.0-15
[13:38] <eisenmann> jokrebel: hier mal ein reinstall von dem kernel image: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11730495/
[13:38] <kubine> eisenmann: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at pastebin.ubuntu.com)
[13:39] <Rochvellon> jokrebel: ich habe auch den 3.16
[13:40] <eisenmann> jokrebel: die kernel sind auch aus den paketquellen von ubuntu server. die sind ganz normal mit apt-get update und apt-get upgrade gekommen.
[13:41] <geser> eisenmann: und für deinen aktuellen Kernel (-40) konnten die Module gebaut werden?
[13:41] <eisenmann> geser: nein auch schon nicht.
[13:42] <nagetier> hat 14.04.2 nicht 3.16 an Bord?
[13:43] <Rochvellon> glaube, das stammt noch aus 14.04.1
[13:43] <nagetier> ich würde die passenden Kernelquellen installieren, make oldconfig && make prepare ausführen, wie es in make.log steht
[13:43] <eisenmann> Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS ist installiert , ja
[13:43] <geser> eisenmann: gut möglich, dass du eine neuere Version der xtables-addons braucht, die sich auch mit neueren Kernels bauen lassen
[13:44] <eisenmann> nagetier: hab ich auch schon probiert läuft aber auch in ein fehler.
[13:44] <nagetier> ok
[13:46] <geser> eisenmann: wenn ich die Git-History richtig lese, brauchst du xtables-addons 2.6 für Kernel 3.16
[13:47] <eisenmann> geser: ah ok. leider gibts die nicht im im repository von ubuntu
[13:48] <eisenmann> geser: hattes auch schon mit dem modul-assistant probiert. das geht aber auch in die hose.
[13:48] <nagetier> die für 3.13 sind korrekt?
[13:48] <eisenmann> geser: module-assistant --verbose --text-mode auto-install xtables-addons
[13:51] <eisenmann> geser: hier die fehler die mit dem module-assistant kommen: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11730582/
[13:51] <kubine> eisenmann: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at pastebin.ubuntu.com)
[13:53] <geser> eisenmann: in der aktuellen Ubuntu-Version ist 2.6 enthalten. Du könntest versuchen zu schauen, ob es geht, wenn du die Pakete manuell aus 15.04 installierst (ohne Gewähr).
[13:53] <geser> die Abhängigkeiten sollten laut einem schnellen Blick kein Problem sein
[13:55] <geser> eisenmann: du brauchst die 3 Pakete aus https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xtables-addons/2.6-1/+build/6502667 (bei Built files)
[13:55] <kubine> geser: Title: amd64 build : 2.6-1 : xtables-addons package : Ubuntu (at launchpad.net)
[13:59] <eisenmann> geser: ok, werde ich heute abend mal probieren. aber dann mache ich da noch ein bug report auf weil das passt ja nicht.
[14:00] <eisenmann> geser: kannst du mir den link von github schicken wo das steht welche version von xtables-addons zu welchen kernel passen?
[14:02] <jokrebel> eisenmann: Sowas hier? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xtables-addons
[14:02] <kubine> jokrebel: Title: xtables-addons package : Ubuntu (at launchpad.net)
[14:02] <geser> eisenmann: http://sourceforge.net/p/xtables-addons/xtables-addons/ci/5e22c9c592f021eb911a881929a25f5d29146f06/log/
[14:03] <kubine> geser: Title: Repository: xtables-addons.git (at sourceforge.net)
[14:03] <geser> eisenmann: dort findest du dann z.B. "build: explicitly support Linux 3.16, 3.17" vor dem Eintrag für "xtables-addons 2.6"
[14:08] <eisenmann> ok danke für eure unterstützung @geser, @jokrebel , @k1l
[14:28] <eisenmann> geser: konnte nicht warten :-) geht leider nicht: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11730748/
[14:28] <kubine> eisenmann: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at pastebin.ubuntu.com)
[14:29] <eisenmann> geser: muss ich wohl warten bis ein update kommt für ubuntu 14.04.2 auf xtables-addons-2.6.1
[14:31] <geser> eisenmann: dkms sollte es im Repository von 14.04 geben: mache mal ein "sudo apt-get install -f" und schaue, ob er die fehlende Abhängigkeit installiert
[14:38] <jokrebel> In einem Grub-Bootmenü tauchen Kernel zur auswahl des ubuntus auf, welche laut Synaptic gar nicht installiert sind (also vermutlich aus einer anderen der mehreren Installation auf des Rechners Festplatten). Wie bekomm ich die aus der Ubuntu-Bootauswahl heraus?
[14:40] <geser> jokrebel: in /boot/ schauen und die entsprechenden Dateien löschen (und auch in /lib/modules wenn man keine Reste übrig behalten möchte)
[14:40] <eisenmann> geser: yes, dkms war nicht installiert. er hat grade alle module gebaut :-) :-) :-) Ich danke dir
[14:41] <jokrebel> geser: Wie kommen die nach /boot und weshalb kann ich die nicht über synaptic finden?
[14:45] <geser> jokrebel: liegen die gesuchten Kernel dort? synaptic kennt nur das, was über Pakete installiert wurde.
[14:46] <geser> warum du da Kernel hast, die nicht über Pakete installiert wurden, muss ich passen.
[14:46] <jokrebel> geser: ..und hau ich da abi- confi- system.map- initrd.img- vmlinuz- alle raus?
[14:47] <nagetier> jokrebel, sieht so aus, als hätte sich da eine weitere Linux Installation /boot von deinem Ubuntu geschnappt.. liegt das auf einer eigenen Partition?
[14:48] <jokrebel> geser: in /lib/modules ist nur der "echte" xx-generic vorhanden. Unter Boot finde ich 2 "fremde(?)"
[14:49] <jokrebel> nagetier: Ja. Jedes Linux hat seine eigene Installation auf separaten Partitionen oder teils sogar Platten. Aber! In allen anderen Linuxen finde ich diese Kernel auch nicht zum möglichen entfernen gelistet.
[14:49] <nagetier> Hm..
[14:50] <geser> vmlinuz- ist der Kernel selbst, initrd.img- ist das initramfs-Image, config- die Kernel-Konfiguration (falls man was nachschauen will)
[14:50] <jokrebel> nagetier: boot hat allerdings bei allen Linuxen (incl. den beiden ubuntu 14.04 und 15.10) nirgends eine separate Partition. Falls Du das meintest.
[14:50] <nagetier> jokrebel, da sind dann keine Kernel vom Paketmanager gelistet?
[14:51] <jokrebel> nein
[14:51] <nagetier> strange
[14:52] <jokrebel> naja - ich lösch die jetzt einfach mal aus boot raus und mach ein update-grub. Das sollte dann ja passen, oder?
[14:52] <nagetier> jokrebel, ja, das meinte ich.. so fällt es mir auch schwer nachzuvollziehen, wie diese dann in ein /boot schreiben können, welches nicht mounted wurde
[14:53] <jokrebel> Da kam ich grad drauf, weil mein 14.04 (wie weiter oben erwähnt) per uname -a einen Kernel 3.19.. fand ;-)
[14:54] <nagetier> sehr, sehr komisch :)
[14:57] <jokrebel> ...welcher sogar einwandfrei lief! ;-)
[16:08] <LupusE> g'morgen
[16:54] <LFlo> moin. Hatte irgendwer eigentlich auch das lustige Problem, dass gnunet mit seinen logfiles die Festplatte flutet? :D
[16:56] <LFlo> mein Rechner hat irgendwann merkwürdige sachen gemacht und ständig gesagt meine festplatte wäre voll, bis ich mal festgestellt habe dass gnunet daran schuld ist. Das war bestimmt vor ein paar Wochen. Letztens konnte sich ein Kumpel von mir nicht mehr bei Ubuntu einloggen und da gab ich ihm den Tipp gnunet zu killen und zu deinstallieren, sowie die logfiles zu löschen. Problem gelöst, aber er hatte gnunet angeblich nie manue
[16:56] <LFlo> installiert.
[16:57] <LFlo> weiß irgendwer woran das liegt? Ich meine ich bin nicht auf gnunet angewiesen, aber es scheint ja doch irgendwie n bug zu sein
[17:04] <samorost> hallo leute! bei ubuntu sind ab werk keine ports offen. wenn ich jetzt einen service installiere/aktiviere, z.b. ssh, dann meldet dieser selbst einen port zum horchen an. iptables bleibt davon unberührt und ist standardmäßig auf ACCEPT für alles?
[17:31] <geser> samorost: genau
[18:00] <fif0> Ich habe cups als client mit client.conf erfolgreich eingerichtet. Kann mit dem DocumentViewer erfolgreich drucken aber nicht mit lpr. Moechte ich ueber die Konsole drucken, soll ich immer mein Passwort auf dem Druckerserver eingeben und das wird nie akzeptiert.
[22:21] <Anf_> Guten Tag, wollte mal fragen, ob einer von Euch eine Synology hat, und mit bei den Backup helfen könnte?
[22:22] <k1l> weder synology noch kali is hier drin supportet. das weißt du doch
[22:51] <Anf_> Ja, das mit Kali hab ich selber gelöst, ich hab es nur hier probiert, weil ich dachte, das Kali und Ubuntu ja das selbe ist, hab ich gedacht, und bei der Synology komm ich wirklich nicht weiter, und der Synology channel ist leider nur auf Englisch
[23:17] <Rochvellon> Kali mag zwar auf Ubuntu aufbauen, jedoch kann da einiges geändert worden sein, was nicht Ubuntu-spezifisch ist, und wo der Großteil, wenn nicht sogar alle, der hier Anwesenden nichts weiß. Und dann einen Fehler zu suchen ist dabei frustriend. Solche Themen, wie auch Synologie, sind dann besser im OT aufgehoben.
[23:49] <c0ne> guten abend, leute was denkt ihr. was läuft besser auf einem netbook. Xubuntu oder LXLE ?
[23:59] <Rochvellon> wieviel ram hast du?
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[18:22] <ernalve_> Buenas, tengo un problemita y necesito ayuda, les cuento...
[18:22] <ernalve_> quise reemplazar el escritorio Unity con Mate, pero después de haber desinstalado Unity y mientras instalaba Mate se cerró mi sesión de usuario y no he podido volver a ingresar. Tengo Ubuntu 14 y los códigos que seguí fueron estos para desinstalar unity http://blog.desdelinux.net/eliminar-unity-e-instalar-mate-cinnamon-ubuntu-14-10/ y estos otros para instalar Mate http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/08/install-mate-desktop-ubu
[18:51] <ernalve_> buenas, hay alguien por ahí? Necesito ayuda.
[20:51] <lia> hola PabloRubianes
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:34.319103
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2015-06-17-#ubuntu-us-tx
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[13:11] <McKraken> good morning, thebwt
[13:11] <thebwt> Good morning!
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:34.321184
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2015-06-17-#juju-gui
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[14:16] <lazyPower> rick_h_: did the MongoDB problems spawn from the MongoDB charm?
[14:17] <rick_h_> lazyPower: no
[14:18] <kwmonroe> hey rick_h_, thanks for fixing issue 107 (ingestion of promulgated bigdata-charmers charms)!
[14:19] <kwmonroe> rick_h_: now that i've buttered you up, a question: do promulgated bundles need to have the charm revno explicitly set, as in "charm: blah-<revno>", in bundle.yaml? or will the lack of -<revno> pull the latest?
[14:20] <lazyPower> kwmonroe: bundle spec wants revisions, but i'll let rick confirm that one ;) i know where you're headed with this and i know what you're going to get as an answer
[14:21] <rick_h_> kwmonroe: otp atm will look in a few sorry
[14:21] <kwmonroe> np
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:34.325152
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2015-06-17-#cloud-init
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[12:44] <smoser> jgarr, seedfrom was busted recently.
[12:44] <smoser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1455233
[12:46] <smoser> anotheral, cna you give me example of what you're p utting in there?
[13:24] <openstackgerrit> Claudiu Popa proposed stackforge/cloud-init: Add the data source base classes and the HTTP OpenStack implementation https://review.openstack.org/188327
[13:48] <openstackgerrit> Claudiu Popa proposed stackforge/cloud-init: Add the data source base classes and the HTTP OpenStack implementation https://review.openstack.org/188327
[15:27] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: I'm pretty much wholesale lifting your OpenStack talk abstract. :)
[15:28] <smoser> imitation is the greatest form of flattery
[15:28] <Odd_Bloke> /nick Odd_moser
[16:05] <ByPasS> Odd_Bloke : has discussed with smoser curl http://169.254.169.254/openstack/latest/password is empty on linux VMs
[16:05] <ByPasS> Odd_bloke : on windows VM there is informations...
[16:05] <ByPasS> as type
[16:05] <ByPasS> as typo ! :D
[16:08] <Odd_Bloke> ByPasS: On the OpenStack I'm looking at, there is an admin_pass key in the config drive metadata.
[16:08] <Odd_Bloke> But not in the HTTP metadata.
[16:08] <Odd_Bloke> (You don't want it in the HTTP metadata; you're effectively granting anyone with access to your server root if it's available from there)
[16:11] <ByPasS> Odd_Bloke : the http metadata in windows is not really the password itself since there is mix with the password and the pub key is used to hash/encrypt it and in order to do nova get-password u need the private key sent..
[16:11] <ByPasS> Odd_Bloke : I will need to have a look at config drive metadata I never used it so far (yet)
[16:55] <ByPasS> Odd_Bloke : thanks using metada drive and this first boot command : mount /dev/sr0 /mnt; echo "ubuntu:"`cat meta_data.json | python -mjson.tool | grep admin | awk -F'"' '{print $4}'` | chpasswd; umount /mnt it now sets the passwd properly :)
[16:55] <Odd_Bloke> ByPasS: :)
[16:56] <ByPasS> well forgot the full path for the cat but basicly u get the point
[16:56] <Odd_Bloke> ByPasS: We'd be happy to accept a patch in to cloud-init for this, if you wanted to try that. :)
[16:59] <ByPasS> Odd_Bloke : thatd be interesting, I will brag to my project manager about the successful passwd injection and will look into it if the company gimme some time or at least I can do it in spare time
[17:01] <harlowja> Odd_Bloke http://tinyurl.com/on6c32o try that sucker out
[17:01] * harlowja nicer dashboard for gerrit
[17:01] <harlowja> * created from https://review.openstack.org/192770
[17:03] <Odd_Bloke> OH YOU FANCY
[17:03] <harlowja> :-P
[17:03] <harlowja> :)
[17:03] * harlowja to fast, ha
[17:04] <Odd_Bloke> Needs more cowbell^Wcloud-init.
[17:04] <harlowja> lol
[17:45] <anotheral> smoser: actually, it looks like the cloud-init part is working, but that set_hostname: does not. So i can use a shell script as a workaround.
[20:38] <harmw> harlowja: I'm not seeing very mucho reviews :p
[21:09] <harlowja> harmw make some more code ;)
[21:09] <harmw> that hurts :p
[21:10] <harlowja> ;)
[21:11] * harlowja can't do as much as i want, got all these other code-bases to help with too
[21:11] * harmw knows that problem :>
[21:12] <harlowja> and i'm not #1 so need to make that happen ( @ http://stackalytics.com/?metric=commits )
[21:12] <harlowja> *see bottom loll
[21:12] <harlowja> :-P
[21:12] <harlowja> taking my #1 place, bums
[21:12] <harlowja> lol
[22:47] <jgarr> do runcmd entries run as root? or as one of the defined users?
[22:48] * jgarr is curious if that's a problem with his subscription-manager command that doesn't appear to run
[22:59] <ByPasS> jgarr : yes it does run as root / UID 0
[23:00] <ByPasS> jgarr : at least from my experience I can use mount with runcmd which requires root
[23:00] <jgarr> ByPasS: k thanks, then I have no idea why subscription-manager doesn't work as a runcmd :-/
[23:00] <jgarr> my only thought is it runs too early in the boot process and network isn't available or something
[23:02] <ByPasS> are you using list method or string ?
[23:03] <ByPasS> as far as I know bootcmd is executed really early in the boot process
[23:04] <ByPasS> runcmd set in a string should be executed on runlevel 3 while passing the info in a string will be written to a file and ran by sh (according to the doc)
[23:05] <ByPasS> I'd add a while loop checking for network connectivity right before the subscription manager cmd to validate your suspicion
[23:06] <jgarr> ByPasS: I see the command is in /var/lib/cloud/instance/runcmd but the machine isn't subscribed
[23:07] <jgarr> I also try catching sterr/stout via `subscription-manager register ... >> /root/cloudinit.log 2>&1` but it never shows up in the file
[23:08] <jgarr> I didn't think to try a loop. I'll give it a shot. thanks
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2015-06-17-#ubuntu-nz
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[03:39] <atamira> loling at chilts
[03:39] <atamira> its been a busy day. time for a nap i think
[03:41] <chilts> that's a long laugh :)
[09:07] <olly> my phone just played ONEIRIC in scrabble
[20:04] <ibeardslee> morning
[21:43] <thumper> o/
[22:38] <olly> morning
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:34.335179
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2015-06-17-#ubuntu-tn
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[09:52] <elacheche> Neo31, my GS3 is dead x(
[10:01] <Neo31> :/
[10:01] <Neo31> damn that was a great phone
[10:01] <Neo31> sry to hear that
[10:25] <SalahMessaoud> G.M o/
[10:25] <SalahMessaoud> elacheche, wenek ça va ?
[10:57] <elacheche> GM SalahMessaoud :) Hmd, u??
[10:57] <elacheche> hani ghatess khidma x)
[10:57] <elacheche> BTW SalahMessaoud, feedback 3al evertek?!
[11:07] <SalahMessaoud> hmd labes
[11:07] <SalahMessaoud> 3indi EverMiracle
[11:07] <SalahMessaoud> mouch 5ayeb
[11:10] <elacheche> 480 barcha x)
[11:10] <elacheche> in5ammam 3la EVERTRENDYII x)
[11:31] <Neo31> elacheche, famma everFancy ;) 230 mouch 5ayebine barcha specs (yanja7 ^^ )
[11:32] <Neo31> best value of the existing evertek i think
[13:13] * elacheche is back
[13:13] <elacheche> I'll think about it Neo31.. Or Should I say, I'll raise some money for it x)
[13:30] <lunapersa> Neo31 asslema
[14:00] <Neo31> ahla luna
[14:00] <Neo31> oups
[14:01] <Neo31> chbiha ta3mal hakka!! tsallam w tohrob :'(
[14:19] <elacheche> x) Net :)
[19:56] <elacheche_anis> o/ Na3iL :)
[19:58] <Na3iL> bonsoir elacheche_anis :D
[20:00] <elacheche_anis> :)
[20:02] <Na3iL> cv :)
[20:02] <elacheche_anis> Tired, but I'm alive :)
[20:13] <Na3iL> hahaha :D rabbi m3ak
[20:15] <elacheche_anis> :)
[21:41] <Na3iL> Romdhankom mabrouk ^_^ davlefou elacheche ichihi
[22:26] <davlefou> Na3iL, merci
[22:33] <Na3iL> :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:34.343507
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2015-06-17-#ubuntu-gnome
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[06:59] <lonix> Guys when i launch a .Desktop file from the search bar it opens in gedit
[06:59] <lonix> Rather then expected to launch it
[08:56] <berglh> lonix: does it have .desktop or .Desktop suffix?
[08:56] <berglh> i'm assuming it's in the right place if you can see it
[08:57] <lonix> .desktop suffix
[08:57] <lonix> When i browse to it i can launch it
[08:57] <lonix> they are stored in /home/<user>/Desktop
[08:58] <lonix> im Assuming thats correct as it's steam shortcuts and alike
[08:58] <lonix> <- Linux veteran, but Desktop noob :)
[09:00] <berglh> oh
[09:01] <berglh> /usr/share/application
[09:01] <berglh> is where you want to put it i think
[09:02] <berglh> I just have it a 644 and owned by root
[09:03] <berglh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11729535/
[09:04] <berglh> and the contents of an example .desktop i used for launching chrome with forced gpu accleration
[09:04] <berglh> sorry
[09:04] <berglh> /usr/share/applications*
[12:59] <LinDol> hi all :)
[13:00] <LinDol> Could I add some language table to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME/LTS here?
[13:36] <shimm> Hi all, i'd like to ask if theres an option to do an netboot with ubuntu GNOME ?
[13:41] <LinDol> what is your netbook?
[13:42] <LinDol> because I am working fine on my netbook for Ubuntu GNOME 15.04
[13:42] <LinDol> so I didn't need any option for netbook :)
[13:42] <shimm> i want to do an NetBOOT
[13:42] <LinDol> ah
[13:42] <LinDol> sorry.
[13:42] <LinDol> T_T
[13:42] <shimm> and there no netboot installer included in the ubuntu gnome iso
[13:42] <LinDol> shimm, sorry for my mistake.
[13:43] <shimm> LinDol: nP :)
[13:44] <LinDol> Thank you for your understand
[13:44] <shimm> do somebody of you know maybe how to do an installation over network ? (for ubuntu gnome)
[13:44] <LinDol> i just reboot.
[13:57] <lindol> um..
[20:56] <ricanlinux> afternoon all
[21:06] <Noskcaj> darkxst, ubuntu to new debdiff for gnome-shell http://pastebin.com/ri8Mjk4j
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:34.350628
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2015-06-17-#ubuntu-x
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[06:20] <hyperair> where are synaptics bugs and patches sent?
[06:20] <hyperair> (upstream) that is
[06:21] <hyperair> ah wait, i found the bugzilla link on launchpad
[06:22] <hyperair> oh wait it isn't synaptics i'm looking for, it's evdev
[07:04] <tjaalton> we'll probably switch to libinput for wily
[07:14] <tjaalton> but bugs.fd.o
[07:14] <tjaalton> for upstream
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:34.354091
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2015-06-17-#ubuntu-server
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[07:44] <nayKang> inotify-tools stop updated until 2010,is there a better tools or solution for file sync on server?
[07:49] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:52] <nayKang> morning
[07:52] <nayKang> in fact,it's three pm
[07:52] <nayKang> in china
[07:52] <lordievader> Not here ;)
[07:53] <nayKang> i just google a tool named incrond seems better than inotify-tool
[08:14] <histo> nayKang: how are you using inotify-tools for file sync?
[08:15] <nayKang> histo: i haven't use anything yet.just do some research
[08:15] <histo> nayKang: rsync
[08:16] <nayKang> en,i think would use rsync
[08:39] <nayKang> how about watchman
[13:18] <Walex> nayKang: unison
[13:43] <nayKang> Walex: is unsion a cli program and run as services?
[13:57] <a1fa> hello, i am trying to resize ext4 partition. the disk has already been extended to 200GB
[13:57] <a1fa> went from 80GB to 200GB
[13:58] <a1fa> Disk /dev/sda: 214.7 GB, 214748364800 bytes
[13:58] <a1fa> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
[13:58] <a1fa> /dev/sda1 2048 419430399 209714176 83 Linux
[13:58] <a1fa> yet, df -h
[13:58] <a1fa> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[13:58] <a1fa> /dev/sda1 74G 63G 7.5G 90% /
[13:58] <lordievader> a1fa: Did you forget to tell your filesystem?
[13:58] <a1fa> i did resize2fs
[13:58] <a1fa> it didnt care
[13:59] <a1fa> well shit
[13:59] <a1fa> it worked this time
[13:59] <a1fa> ... odd
[13:59] <a1fa> /dev/sda1 197G 63G 127G 34% /
[13:59] <a1fa> it did an online resize
[14:00] <jrwren> yes, online is the way to do it
[14:00] <a1fa> i was doing this all offline, and it was telling me its already max size
[14:00] <a1fa> i guess reboot+online resize did it
[14:00] <a1fa> thanks
[14:19] <jamespage> coreycb, I've uploaded keystonemiddleware, but you need to document the SRU in the bug report still
[14:19] <coreycb> jamespage, ok will do, and thanks
[14:19] <jamespage> coreycb, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[14:58] <gtrmtx> hey guys im having a nightmare getting my network to work properly on the main server...running version 3.4 and here's what my /etc/network/interfaces and ifconfig looks like: https://pastee.org/767aq
[14:59] <gtrmtx> sorry i need to clarify its proxmox version 3.4
[15:16] <tarpman> hi, could a developer please look at bug 1392018 and accept/reject the sru nomination? thanks in advance
[15:33] <RoyK> !proxmox
[15:35] <qman__> Bot broken?
[15:35] <rbasak> tarpman: accepted. Thank you for looking after this!
[15:37] <tarpman> rbasak: thanks!
[15:39] <RoyK> qman__: nah - just didn't know much about proxmox
[15:42] <qman__> It didn't link the bug either so I wasn't sure
[15:43] <RoyK> !bug 1
[15:51] * YamakasY is sexy
[16:40] <smoser> smb, around ?
[16:40] <smoser> i have some fun.
[16:40] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11731383/
[16:40] * teward pokes rbasak
[16:54] <smoser> hallyn,
[16:54] <smoser> you never fixed this? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=603944
[16:54] <smoser> hitting it now, and only do so with trusty+hwe-v
[16:55] <smb> smoser, not with much attention right now... looks like the usual fun when exiting initramfs shell without some rootfs
[16:55] <smoser> smb, its ^
[16:55] <smoser> i think
[16:55] <smoser> i think some udev event / fun has made the device busy. and we're unlucky
[18:03] <hallyn> smoser: what the blazes do you mean i never fixed it. i sent a patch, it seems.
[18:04] <smoser> but you didn't put it in ubuntu.
[18:04] <smoser> meaning it is still (5 years later) present
[18:05] <smoser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/multipath-tools/+bug/1429327
[18:17] <smoser> cyphermox, around ?
[18:17] <smoser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/multipath-tools/+bug/1429327
[18:17] <smoser> how does grub decide what root= to use ?
[20:35] <gabriel-artigue> my Ubuntu Server 15.04 installation displays the terminal welcome message twice right after I enter my password; how can I correct this? thanks
[21:29] <histo> gabriel-artigue: what's in your /etc/motd ?
[22:56] <Demon_Jester> I am currecntly on xubuntu, and I was wondering will ubuntu server give me the option to preserve my home directory?
[22:57] <sarnold> Demon_Jester: what are you wanting to do?
[22:58] <Demon_Jester> I was using old hp media center as a server, and while back ubuntu server would not install so I used xubuntu, essentially I want to transfer my 1TB HDD into this dell poweredge my friend gave me.
[22:58] <Demon_Jester> Instead of doing back up I was wondering if I can preserve home directory when I install ubuntu server over xubuntu.
[23:00] <Demon_Jester> sarnold, sorry I forgot to include your name, my response is above.
[23:00] <sarnold> why do you want to re-install?
[23:00] <sarnold> why not just move the drive?
[23:03] <Demon_Jester> sarnold, that won't cause any problems if I try to boot that on a different machine than it was installed on?
[23:04] <sarnold> Demon_Jester: probably not, i've done it a half-dozen times over the years.. you miht need to fiddle with udev persistent-net-rules files or something similar, but it should mostly just work, assuming they are both e.g. amd64 systems
[23:04] <Demon_Jester> I believe so.. ok cool I will give it a shot
[23:04] <Demon_Jester> I just wanted to install ubuntu server to get rid of xubuntu
[23:05] <sarnold> if you'd like the clean house, go for it..
[23:05] <Demon_Jester> but if I am on more stable system I think I figured something out.
[23:05] <Demon_Jester> sarnold, once again thanks. I will give it a shot
[23:05] <sarnold> I've always put /home on a sepaerate partition, and It hink the installer will leave it alone if it can
[23:05] <sarnold> have fun Demon_Jester :)
[23:10] <histo> Demon_Jester: you could always jsut remove the xubuntu packages
[23:11] <Demon_Jester> I tried but this hp media center is all kinds of mess up, if I turn on my other hp media center server it crashes the nic on the other one. Sometimes it drops the nic on its own due to some crash I can't figure out. lol
[23:14] <histo> Demon_Jester: well I'd backup your /home and reinstall then if you want.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:34.376213
| 2015-06-17T00:00:00 |
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2015-06-17-#ubuntu-ro
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[17:35] <IntranetSupportR> salutare
[17:36] <IntranetSupportR> guys am o duda cu un Ubuntu 14.04.01.... ma poate ajuta cineva cu o idee...un hint ?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:34.377468
| 2015-06-17T00:00:00 |
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2015-06-17-#ubuntu-ci-eng
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[08:26] <jibel> davmor2, can you take silo 28? it's rather urgent
[08:26] <davmor2> jibel: sure
[08:26] <jibel> davmor2, thanks:
[08:26] <jibel> !
[08:29] <sil2100> THanks guys!
[08:29] <sil2100> Still not known if and when we'll do the OTA-4.5, but we need to be ready
[08:52] <sil2100> Hey guys, I'll use rc-proposed channel for a bit
[08:52] <sil2100> (I'll break it)
[08:52] <sil2100> kk thx bye
[08:52] <Mirv> sil2100: nice!
[08:53] <sil2100> The cat is really interested in how I work, he's helping out with code and other duties
[08:53] <sil2100> By, for instance, blocking my view of the screen, trying to catch the mouse cursor and pressing random buttons
[08:56] <sil2100> Anyway, expect a strange image in the rc-proposed channel soon
[09:07] <Mirv> sil2100: really strange from the sounds of it :)
[09:07] <Mirv> catimage
[09:22] <sil2100> jibel, davmor2: I have a ubuntu community image for you guys to test
[09:24] <sil2100> jibel, davmor2: so, latest image in the rc-proposed/ubuntu channel is what you want
[09:25] <davmor2> sil2100: in a meeting get back to you after
[09:25] <sil2100> jibel, davmor2: mako 163, krillin 197 etc.
[09:49] <davmor2> sil2100, barry: silo 028 is broken. On a production-reset the product turns itself off on or around wifi password
[10:09] <sil2100> davmor2: uh
[10:10] <sil2100> davmor2: not sure I understand, but I never used the production-reset function
[10:11] <davmor2> sil2100: it's the new function added to system-image in the silo
[10:19] <sil2100> I wonder why it's broken
[10:23] <ogra_> davmor2, its the old function that was used in rtm ... not new at all :)
[10:23] <ogra_> (there are new bugs around it perhaps though)
[10:23] <davmor2> ogra_: there are 2 --factory-reset Perform a destructive factory reset and reboot.
[10:23] <davmor2> WARNING: this will wipe all user data on the device!
[10:23] <davmor2> --production-reset Perform a destructive production reset (similar to
[10:23] <davmor2> factory reset) and reboot. WARNING: this will wipe all
[10:23] <davmor2> user data on the device!
[10:24] <ogra_> davmor2, right, --production-reset was implemented before the device went into production
[10:24] <ogra_> factory reset is a bit older and foor endusers
[10:25] <davmor2> ogra_: * LP: #1419027: Adding D-Bus method for production line reset - Used by the advanced factory reset use case
[10:25] <ogra_> yeah
[10:26] <davmor2> ogra_: so apparently it is all rsalveti 's fault :)
[10:26] <ogra_> "...reset the phone and perform a delayed power off."
[10:26] * rsalveti runs
[10:26] <john-mcaleely> as I recall, production reset turns the phone 'off' after a certain time
[10:27] <john-mcaleely> so it can go in a box with confidence
[10:27] <ogra_> yeah
[10:27] <davmor2> ah okay might not be an issue then
[10:27] <ogra_> thats what the bug says
[10:27] <rsalveti> oh, right
[10:27] <rsalveti> that is old
[10:27] <john-mcaleely> you're not expected to use the phone after the reset, just observe that it boots to the welcome page of the wizard
[10:28] <rsalveti> what is the issue?
[10:29] <davmor2> yeap got it. thanks I think that thing that confused is it started the welcome wizard
[10:30] <davmor2> so I just need to confirm that it doesn't happen with factory-reset then
[10:32] <davmor2> rsalveti: none now :)
[10:32] <ogra_> davmor2, well, it boots normally and starts the wizard ... and at some point it does what you told it to (delayed power off)
[10:33] <davmor2> rsalveti: I missed the delayed shutdown
[10:35] <rsalveti> cool
[10:35] <sil2100> \o/
[11:01] <nik90> sil2100, davmor2: I fear something is wrong with mako image r163 on channel ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/ubuntu. http://paste.ubuntu.com/11729906/
[11:01] <nik90> sil2100, davmor2: I just reflashed using u-d-f and still get the same...the unity8 version in this image comes with no shell rotation!
[11:01] <nik90> this is on a Mako Nexus 4
[11:03] <nik90> Mirv: ^^
[11:04] <Mirv> nik90: hmm. I can't test right now since my mako is running autopilot tests, but on the #162 I do have unity8 8.10+15.04.20150612-0ubuntu1 which should be new enough version.
[11:04] <davmor2> nik90: how are you testing it?
[11:04] <ogra_> nik90, shell rotation was landed after the OTA
[11:04] <ogra_> oh
[11:04] <nik90> Mirv: indeed I had shell rotation on image r162. Hell I even posted pictures of it on g+ ;)
[11:04] <nik90> it broke after I upgraded to r163
[11:04] * ogra_ missed the -proposed in the channel name, ignore me
[11:05] <nik90> davmor2: tested by upgrading from r162->r163 and also a normal u-d-f flash to r163 on my N4. Opened system-settings-app and no shell rotation
[11:05] <Mirv> nik90: oh! :)
[11:06] <Mirv> nik90: can you check what dpkg -s unity8 says there?
[11:06] <Mirv> the version, mostly
[11:06] <sil2100> nik90: yes
[11:07] <sil2100> Mirv: no worries, that's the strange image I mentioned :)
[11:07] <Mirv> sil2100: ah...
[11:07] <nik90> Mirv: Version: 8.02+15.04.20150603.1-0ubuntu1
[11:07] <Mirv> nik90: right, then that's older
[11:07] <sil2100> nik90, davmor2, Mirv: the latest rc-proposed image is now a snapshot image ;) With OTA-4 stuff in it
[11:07] <nik90> sil2100: oh
[11:07] <davmor2> sil2100: yeah that's what I was just thinking
[11:07] <sil2100> Remember! rc-proposed is meant to be full of strange stuff, it's never guaranteed to be reliable and working - next image will be with rotation again
[11:08] <sil2100> nik90: you should have your shell rotation in a few hours
[11:08] <sil2100> :)
[11:08] <nik90> sil2100: well so how I do get the latest stuff to develop on? which channel is recommened?
[11:08] <nik90> sil2100: I see rc-proposed/ubuntu-developer has not been updated for a long time either
[11:08] <nik90> just a bit confused
[11:08] <nik90> I need shell-rotation to test clock-app portrait lock and stuff
[11:12] <davmor2> nik90: rc-proprosed and just back it up a revision.
[11:13] <nik90> davmor2: how do I specify the revision?
[11:15] <mzanetti> sil2100, hey ho :) ^
[11:15] <mzanetti> I know there's another one with unity in it
[11:15] <mzanetti> I'd like to get started with testing the next one nevertheless. Will rebuild when the previous lands
[11:16] <davmor2> nik90: ubuntu-device-flash --revision -1 touch --channel <channel>
[11:16] <davmor2> nik90: or you can add a specific number ie 162
[11:16] <sil2100> mzanetti: on it
[11:16] <mzanetti> thanks :)
[11:16] <sil2100> nik90: are you developing apps?
[11:17] <mzanetti> he is :)
[11:17] <nik90> sil2100: hmm yes...clock-app dev ;)
[11:17] <mzanetti> nik90, btw, will you make fahrplan rotation-ready?
[11:18] <nik90> mzanetti: you want it to rotate? I will see how it looks in landscape
[11:18] <sil2100> nik90: then it's best to use stable ;)
[11:18] <nik90> sil2100: not when I am getting bug reports about clock app looking bad when running it on rc-proposed ;) in landscape form
[11:19] <sil2100> nik90: rc-proposed is not a channel for app developers, as it can have broken features...
[11:19] <sil2100> Well, for shell rotation, please wait a bit and it'll be back ;p
[11:19] <sil2100> Or quickly revert to the previous image ;)
[11:20] <nik90> sil2100: yeah I am reverting to r162..I was just surprised to experience this with r163..figured rc-proposed just mean latest development stuff..not OTA images ;)
[11:21] <ogra_> -proposed always means automatic daily builds and no QA
[11:21] <ogra_> or "mild" QA
[11:24] <sil2100> nik90: no no ;) rc-proposed is a transient channel that, indeed it has the latest development, but in theory should be only used by people working on core system components etc.
[11:24] <sil2100> Of course, we don't want to scare away people from using it
[11:25] <sil2100> But it's just good to know that we don't guarantee anything in that channel ;)
[11:25] <nik90> understood
[12:19] <ogra_> jibel, i just upgraded to 27 on my arale and see the SIM PIN disalog for the first time !
[12:20] <ogra_> (did we get any fixes or am i just lucky ?)
[12:20] <jibel> ogra_, take a screenshot, it's racy and maybe the only time you'll see it
[12:20] <ogra_> ha, to late
[12:21] <jibel> ogra_, there is no fix yet, I still reproduce on 27, but just adding debug code makes it much more difficult to reproduce
[12:21] <ogra_> yeah, timing issues are hard to catch
[12:33] <sil2100> hmmm
[12:34] <sil2100> mzanetti: looking at the unity8 packaging diff right now
[12:35] <mzanetti> sil2100, anything wrong?
[12:35] <sil2100> mzanetti: I'm a bit worried by the versioned-dep
[12:36] <mzanetti> sil2100, this one? https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/unity8/click_item_with_swipe/+merge/256961
[12:37] <sil2100> mzanetti: ...scratch that, it looks fine :)
[12:38] <mzanetti> ack :)
[12:38] <brendand> sil2100, i was *just* going to ask you about that :)
[12:38] <mzanetti> brendand, so... finally your branch landed :)
[12:38] <mzanetti> thanks for the patience
[12:38] <brendand> so patience, such waiting :P
[12:39] <brendand> mzanetti, thanks :) !
[12:48] <bfiller> sil2100: I want to switch sillo 7 from vivid to dual. can I do this myself with reconfigure?
[12:55] <mzanetti> cihelp: seems our jenkins jobs started failing because of a license check, but we didn't change those files in years: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-mediumtests-builder-wily-armhf/104/console
[12:56] <t1mp> was there a lp project that has all the scripts that are executed by jenkins?
[12:56] <mzanetti> bfiller, you can update the spreadsheet bug ci people need to wipe and reconfig
[12:57] <mzanetti> t1mp, this maybe: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~private-ps-quality-team/pbuilderjenkins/trunk/files
[12:57] <bfiller> mzanetti: sorry, update what?
[12:57] <mzanetti> bfiller, the google doc :)
[12:57] <t1mp> zbenjamin, bzoltan: ^
[12:57] <bfiller> mzanetti: oh for the dual landing you mean?
[12:57] <t1mp> mzanetti: thanks
[12:57] <sil2100> bfiller: sadly no, series reconfiguration usually requires re-assigning silos
[12:58] <mzanetti> bfiller, yes
[12:58] <bfiller> mzanetti: thanks
[12:58] <bfiller> sil2100: ack, mind reconfiguring silo 7 then?
[12:58] <sil2100> bfiller: will have to re-assign (e.g. wipe existing packages), you fine with that?
[12:59] <bfiller> sil2100: yes
[12:59] <sil2100> On it then
[13:00] <fginther> mzanetti, looking
[13:03] <fginther> mzanetti, There was an update to the devscripts package and the licensecheck tool along with it on June 11 (which is when these errors started)
[13:03] <sil2100> bfiller: done
[13:03] <bfiller> sil2100: thank you!
[13:04] <mzanetti> fginther, yeah, sounds reasonable. What would you suggest?
[13:04] <mzanetti> I guess the checklicenseheaders.sh needs to be updated
[13:04] <fginther> mzanetti, looks like a number of bugs were actually fixed in it (http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/d/devscripts/devscripts_2.15.5/changelog). Do these files actually need to be patched?
[13:04] <mzanetti> fginther, those files have the upstream Qt copyright header
[13:05] <fginther> mzanetti, ohhh, that sucks then :-/
[13:05] <fginther> mzanetti, well, sucks for me I guess
[13:05] <mzanetti> heh
[13:05] <mzanetti> fginther, let me try running things manually on them
[13:05] <mzanetti> maybe we can find a solution that doesn't such for you
[13:06] <fginther> mzanetti, looks like they are all in a plugins dir, should be possible to exclude that
[13:06] <mzanetti> hmm... not a big fan of that... lots of our code is the plugin dir
[13:06] <sil2100> bfiller: yw!
[13:07] <fginther> mzanetti, ok, let me look at some other options too
[13:09] <sil2100> Ok
[13:09] * sil2100 switches to maintenance mode now
[13:10] <sil2100> I should be around on IRC but not all the time
[13:15] <mzanetti> fginther, ok... still passing here on my vivid+overlay, seems wily only problem
[13:16] <fginther> mzanetti, yeah, the regression appears to have been introduced in 2.15.5 which is still only in wily
[13:16] <fginther> mzanetti, the only solution I have so far is to exclude those specific files
[13:16] <greyback> trainguards: hey, could I get a silo for spreadsheet line 60 please
[13:18] <mzanetti> fginther, sounds ok for a temporary measure... but not feeling really comfy with that in the long run
[13:19] <sil2100> greyback: ok
[13:19] <barry> davmor2: afaik, it isn't si 3.0's fault. all production-reset does is write the following to ubuntu_command and then reboot: format data; enable factory_wipe
[13:20] <davmor2> barry: it's okay it was meant to happen
[13:20] <barry> davmor2: cool
[13:21] <sil2100> greyback: assigning, I added qtubuntu-gles and qtmir-gles
[13:21] <fginther> mzanetti, another option is to remove the check completely
[13:21] <sil2100> greyback: this should make the -gles bits easier, as you won't need a trainguard for the reconfigure
[13:21] <greyback> sil2100: thanks. I tend to add those after once the non-gles ones build
[13:22] <mzanetti> fginther, let me check if I can update that header to a slightly different format to make it pass or so
[13:22] <greyback> sil2100: ah cool, I'll do that in future
[13:22] <sil2100> greyback: yeah, you still need to do this, but without those pre-defined you would need us for the reconfigure, now you can reconfigure it yourself :)
[13:22] <greyback> yay!
[13:37] <mzanetti> fginther, this fails: ** Copyright (C) 2014 Canonical, Ltd. and/or its subsidiary(-ies).
[13:38] <mzanetti> this passes: ** Copyright (C) 2014 Canonical.
[13:38] <mzanetti> this does look like a bug in the tool to me
[13:38] <rvr> sil2100: My personal krillin still hasn't got any update notification
[13:39] <sil2100> rvr: strange, you're on the right channel, right?
[13:39] <rvr> sil2100: channel: ubuntu-touch/stable/bq-aquaris.es
[13:40] <mzanetti> fginther, actually it's only the "/" in the and/or line. I'll work around it in our repo
[13:40] <sil2100> rvr: might be somehow related to the fact it's .es, but in theory it should be a redirect to .en
[13:40] <fginther> mzanetti, Are those files regularly updated from upstream?
[13:41] <mzanetti> fginther, no
[13:41] <mzanetti> only when we copy the file we keep the header intact
[13:41] <fginther> mzanetti, ack, this doesn't sound like that gross of a workaround then
[13:42] <mzanetti> no... seems ok if I don't hit other headers that fail for different reasons. I'll let you know
[13:42] <fginther> mzanetti, thanks
[13:43] <jibel> rvr, if you adb shell what is the output of sudo system-image-cli -vn
[13:45] <rvr> jibel: sil2100: Yeah, it redirects to bq-aquaris.en http://paste.ubuntu.com/11730546/
[13:45] <rvr> Upgrade path is 23 Target phase: 5%
[13:45] <rvr> What is target phase?
[13:46] <jibel> sil2100, ^ do you know?
[13:46] <sil2100> No idea
[13:47] <sil2100> I checked and on s-i the phasing percentage it 100%
[13:47] <davmor2> barry: ^
[13:48] <barry> sil2100, davmor2 what's the problem?
[13:48] <davmor2> barry: rvr has a real device it hasn't upgraded yet
[13:48] <ogra_> was the .es channel actually relesed ?
[13:48] <ogra_> i thought we dropped that one
[13:49] <jibel> ogra_, this device has been purchased from BQ
[13:49] <barry> rvr: what does `system-image-cli --version` say?
[13:49] <rvr> balloons: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11730579/
[13:49] <rvr> Ooops
[13:49] <rvr> barry: ^
[13:50] <ogra_> jibel, sure, i just remember talk that we wouldnt do .es anymore
[13:50] <barry> rvr: --version not --info :)
[13:50] <jibel> ogra_, it's an alias to .en
[13:50] <rvr> barry: system-image-cli 2.5.1
[13:50] <barry> rvr: okay, that's good at least
[13:50] <ogra_> jibel, aha, so i remembered right ...
[13:51] <ogra_> so it is probably the following of aliases thats not correct
[13:52] <barry> rvr: and if you remove the -n, does it upgrade? or what do the logs say?
[13:52] <rvr> barry: system-image-cli -v ?
[13:53] <barry> rvr: yes
[13:53] <rvr> It downloads something
[13:53] <barry> it should upgrade because there is apparently no phase for image 23
[13:53] <barry> (target phase is the phase of the device)
[13:54] <jibel> rvr, and from the UI there was no notification and nothing in 'software updates'?
[13:55] <rvr> jibel: Nope
[13:55] <jibel> rvr, can you interrupt the download and check again?
[13:55] <rvr> jibel: Yeah, that's what I did
[13:55] <rvr> I'm stuck here:
[13:55] <rvr> [systemimage] Jun 17 14:53:37 2015 (7473) [0xb63aabb0] Running group download reactor
[13:55] <barry> rvr: you might want to kill system-image-dbus and let it get reactivated
[13:55] <barry> rvr: you could tell more status with more -v's
[13:56] <barry> (generally, we don't bombard the console with udm's chatty progresses)
[13:56] <rvr> barry: Ok
[13:57] <ogra_> just add -vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
[13:57] <ogra_> ;)
[13:57] <ogra_> (then it will probably print machine code)
[13:57] <barry> ogra_: or --veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
[13:58] <ogra_> haha
[13:58] <rvr> lol
[13:59] <barry> sil2100: while we're here, we're going to have to rethink how to do the si client branches. upstream branch is in git now so the merge-upstream recipe is different... and not working :( is it possible to drive the train with git branches?
[13:59] <sil2100> barry: uuuu, currently no, I think robru wanted to add that once but he's busy with bileto, the spreadsheet replacement
[13:59] <sil2100> ;/
[14:00] <barry> sil2100: the problem i'm having is that after doing `bzr merge-upstream <path-to-.tar.gz>` and then `bzr bd -S` fails with unexpected changes to upstream source. even reverting the change to the file that it claims to be changed, bzr bd -S still fails
[14:00] <barry> sil2100: that's probably higher priority ;)
[14:01] <barry> sil2100: well, i guess i know what i'm doing for the rest of this week :(
[14:04] <rvr> barry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11730629/
[14:04] <rvr> barry: After that I think it beings to download something, I cancelled
[14:04] <barry> rvr: okay, you should kill that and then use ps to find the ubuntu-download-manager, and kill that
[14:05] <barry> rvr: start fresh, and then do the command again. sometimes udm gets confused
[14:05] <barry> rvr: you're on wifi right?
[14:05] <rvr> barry: Right
[14:05] <barry> yeah, so it should work, unless you're having other network problems. basically that paste is telling me that udm is stuck
[14:08] <rvr> barry: Stuck, but downloading
[14:08] <barry> rvr: at the point where the log ends, we are at the mercy of udm
[14:09] <rvr> barry: So, if this is downloading, then it knows there is an image available
[14:09] <rvr> But there is no notification
[14:09] <barry> rvr: correct
[14:09] <barry> rvr: notification? through the cli, it's the console output.
[14:10] <rvr> barry: My "complain" is that I haven't got any system update notification, and the update screen is System Settings don't show it as available neither
[14:11] <barry> rvr: okay, so let's do this...
[14:11] <barry> rvr: first, kill system-image-cli
[14:11] <rvr> Done
[14:11] <barry> rvr: next, kill any ubuntu-download-manager process that might still be running
[14:11] <rvr> Done
[14:11] <barry> rvr: next, kill any system-image-dbus process that might still be running
[14:11] <barry> rvr: kill any system-settings process (i.e. the ui)
[14:11] <rvr> Done
[14:12] <davmor2> jibel, sil2100: Finally silo028 is done
[14:12] <barry> rvr: cool, now, in a separate shell, do this: `tail -f /var/log/system-image/client.log`
[14:12] <rvr> Application closed
[14:12] <barry> rvr: and then fire up the system-settings ui and start a check for upgrade. watch the log tail. you should see something very similar to your previous console output
[14:13] <rvr> barry: Now it is there o_O
[14:13] <rvr> barry: It's downloading now
[14:14] <barry> rvr: cool. sometimes when udm gets confuzzled, it confuzzles the whole stack upwards :/
[14:15] <barry> rvr: if you really want some sneaky, once/if si 3.0 is landed you can bypass udm and use the built-in curl based downloader. we use that on snappy and it avoids the problems of udm
[14:16] <rvr> barry: I worry more about users having this problem
[14:17] <barry> rvr: i'm not sure what to do about it. i've been asking for udm to get some love for a *long* time
[14:17] <rvr> I don't know which magic you used, but after canceling and rebooting again, System Settings > Update shows and downloads the image.
[14:18] <barry> rvr: killing all those processes usually gets things back into a usable state.
[14:18] <rvr> barry: Does system-image-cli cache requests somehow?
[14:19] <barry> rvr: it does cache full downloads so that updates can be resumed more quickly, but the checksums and signatures must still be valid, or it will ignore any cached data files
[14:20] <rvr> barry: I see
[14:30] <popey> sil2100: I added a line to ci spreadsheet for clock r280 as requested by rvr and nik90. can you please check it and press whatever button is needed to make it go to trello?
[14:31] <rvr> popey: It's automatic, there is a bot for that :)
[14:31] <popey> \o/ bots
[14:32] <rvr> popey: Although I don't know how the status field is managed by CI
[14:36] <jhodapp> sil2100, can I get a silo for line 61 please?
[14:38] <oSoMoN> trainguards: I added a merge request to silo 16, can I reconfigure the silo myself, or do you have to do it?
[14:51] <jhodapp> oSoMoN, they'll most likely have to do the reconfigure
[14:54] <mzanetti> fginther, status update: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devscripts/+bug/1466098
[14:56] <fginther> mzanetti, thanks
[15:04] <mzanetti> fginther, this seems a good idea in any case: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/pbuilderjenkins/dont-check-generated/+merge/262235
[15:04] <mzanetti> I can work around the other's in the unity code base for now
[15:07] <fginther> mzanetti, cool, if you can add a changelog update to that MP, we can get that updated
[15:11] <mzanetti> fginther, done
[15:12] <fginther> mzanetti, can you change UNRELEASED to wily?
[15:12] <fginther> mzanetti, That's caused problems for me in the past
[15:12] <mzanetti> yes
[15:13] <mzanetti> fginther, done
[15:13] <fginther> mzanetti, thank you sir!
[15:14] <mzanetti> :)
[15:15] <jhodapp> robru, ping
[15:51] <oSoMoN> trainguards: I need silo 16 to be reconfigured, can someone please take care of this?
[16:23] <davmor2> sil2100, jibel: image 163 tested on mako looks good here
[16:35] <robru> oSoMoN: you can reconfigure that yourself. you only need trainguards when you're adding new packages, not adding new MPs for existing packages.
[16:35] <robru> jhodapp: hi
[16:36] <oSoMoN> robru, ah, thanks, sorry I never remember that right
[16:36] <jhodapp> robru, oh good to know, I didn't realize that either
[16:36] <jhodapp> robru, just need a silo for line 61 please
[16:37] <robru> jhodapp: oSoMoN: yeah one of our goals is to expand user empowerment so that you guys aren't waiting for me all day long, but spreadsheet replacement is the number one priority right now
[16:38] <robru> jhodapp: silo 38
[16:38] <jhodapp> thanks robru
[16:38] <robru> you're welcome
[16:38] <oSoMoN> robru, that makes sense. how is the spreadsheet replacement coming along, btw?
[16:39] <robru> oSoMoN: http://requests.ci-train.staging.ubuntu.com/ it's a thing that exists ;-) I'd say 90% done, but there's lots of fiddly integration bits that still need to be done.
[16:39] <oSoMoN> neat. I can’t wait for it to be live (and I know I’m not alone :))
[16:39] <robru> oSoMoN: yeah you and everybody else ;-) l0(
[16:39] <robru> ;-)
[16:41] <jhodapp> robru, so I've not built qtmultimedia-opensource-src before...this MR is a diff to the package branch...it is complaining that it's missing the package qtmultimedia-opensource-src-gles
[16:41] <jhodapp> robru, do I need to add that to the addition source packages column?
[16:41] <jhodapp> *additional
[16:42] <robru> jhodapp: well you probably want a second MP for the -gles branch as well, those need to be kept in sync.
[16:42] <jhodapp> robru, but nothing changed in that branch
[16:43] <robru> jhodapp: doesn't matter, there's rules in place enforcing -gles variants always have matching version numbers. if you're releasing one you need to release the other
[16:44] <jhodapp> robru, hmm interesting...so basically a no-change MR and then the silo will bump the release version numbers?
[16:44] <jhodapp> robru, or I guess it'd be Jenkins that would do the version bump
[16:44] <robru> jhodapp: errr, no. the branch should have a debian/watch that scans for the non-gles and rebuilds that package with the same changes.
[16:45] <robru> jhodapp: -gles is a special rebuild of the same package, it needs to have the same contents as what you're releasing for non-gles.
[16:45] <jhodapp> robru, oh interesting
[16:46] <robru> I wonder if Mirv is around to explain how he manages his -gles packages
[16:46] <robru> I know how kgunn does it...
[16:46] <jhodapp> robru, line 60 has some from greyback, like 58 from Mirv
[16:48] <robru> jhodapp: I was thinking more like this: https://code.launchpad.net/~bzoltan/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/landing_12-6-2015-gles/+merge/261832 (but ignore the merge conflict and just look at debian/watch)
[16:49] <greyback> I usually check out the -gles branch, update the changelog to have matching debian version string to the non-gles packages, update the watch file to suit the landing PPA, and create a MP. Then add that MP to the silo
[16:49] <robru> jhodapp: but I'm not sure if qtmultimedia-opensource-src-gles is set up to use debian/watch or not, you'd have to figure that out
[16:49] <bzoltan> robru: ehh... mergeconflict? I need to fix that too
[16:49] <jhodapp> robru, ok thanks man
[16:49] <robru> jhodapp: youre welceme ;-)
[16:49] <robru> wow fat fingers today lol
[16:49] <jhodapp> greyback, so one MP only right?
[16:50] <greyback> jhodapp: one MP for non-gles, one for -gles
[16:50] <jhodapp> greyback, ok...so those two MP's are identical?
[16:51] <jhodapp> greyback, or where do they differ (if they do)?
[16:51] <greyback> jhodapp: no, the -gles one is only a fancy debian packaging branch, which imports the code from the non-gles branch
[16:51] <greyback> jhodapp: what project, qtubuntu?
[16:51] <jhodapp> greyback, qtmultimedia-opensource-src
[16:52] <greyback> jhodapp: hmm, I don't know how that one is done, sorry. I had thought they were uploaded manually
[16:52] <greyback> Mirc would know more
[16:52] <greyback> Mirv
[16:53] <robru> jhodapp: yeah I'm not sure exactly how mirv does his because he usually does source uploads, which are a little bit opaque from the train perspective
[16:54] <jhodapp> robru, greyback ok, I'll sync up with Mirv and see if I can't learn how to do this
[16:55] <jhodapp> thanks for the assistance
[16:56] <robru> jhodapp: you're welcome
[16:57] <robru> boiko: https://code.launchpad.net/~tiagosh/ubuntu/wily/telepathy-qt5/update-0.9.6.1/+merge/262167 this branch is an UDD branch which is not supported by the train. you'll need to push that somewhere else and propose a new merge in order to get a silo.
[17:00] <boiko> robru: ah yes, sorry, that package (telepathy-qt5) should be a source upload, let me remove from the list of MPs
[17:02] <boiko> robru: what do you need for the source upload? the .dsc, .changes and the tarball itself?
[17:04] <robru> boiko: the easiest thing is if you just upload it into a PPA you own and then I'll copy it into the silo PPA.
[17:05] <boiko> robru: yep, ok
[17:10] <robru> boiko: oh hrm what are you expecting to happen with a manual source upload in a dual silo?
[17:11] <boiko> robru: I really don't know :D
[17:11] <robru> boiko: I think that behavior is undefined. let me just read the source real quick to figure out what'll happen...
[17:11] <boiko> robru: well, we want to land this new telepathy in wily and on the vivid overlay too
[17:13] <robru> boiko: yeah, I think this isn't going to work. the "secondary" build will try to copy the source from the primary build but the primary build doesn't exist because only MPs have that.
[17:13] <boiko> robru: so what would you suggest then? we land in wily first and then sync to vivid overlay?
[17:13] <robru> boiko: so if you want to keep it a dual silo you'll have to figure out a way to do an MP for telepathy-qt5, or you'll have to release one silo to wily and then do a second silo to sync wily back to vivid
[17:14] <boiko> robru: maybe the sync silo approach will be easier for this case
[17:14] <robru> boiko: alright I'll make it a wily silo for now
[17:14] <robru> boiko: sorry about that, didn't anticipate this use case.
[17:14] <boiko> robru: nice! thanks!
[17:15] <boiko> robru: no worries
[17:15] <greyback> where has the silo reconfigure button gone?
[17:15] <robru> greyback: to a menu at the top
[17:16] <greyback> robru: of the CI dashboard?
[17:16] <robru> greyback: of the spreadsheet.
[17:18] <greyback> perhaps I'm not allowed to
[17:18] <greyback> I simply cannot find it
[17:18] <robru> boiko: ok let me know when you've got that -qt5 package prepped and I'll copy it in
[17:18] <robru> greyback: are you logged in?
[17:18] <greyback> robru: would you please reconfigure silo36 for me, added the -gles twins
[17:18] <greyback> robru: yeah
[17:19] <boiko> robru: sure, working on it
[17:19] <robru> greyback: do you see the menubar that's like "File Edit View ... Addons Help Landing Tools"?
[17:19] <greyback> robru: omg up there
[17:19] <greyback> I didn't know we could stuff up there
[17:19] <robru> greyback: welcome to google spreadsheets ;-)
[17:20] <robru> greyback: don't worry, in a month this'll all be gone and you'll have to relearn the new thing
[17:20] <robru> greyback: oh but if you added a package I have to do it for you anyway, hang on
[17:20] <greyback> robru: no, sil already added them
[17:21] <greyback> as additional source packages to land - exactly so I could recofigure myself, and wouldn't have to bother you
[17:21] <robru> greyback: oh great
[17:21] <robru> greyback: make sure you delete the source packages from the source package column then, that'll screw things up
[17:21] <greyback> robru: ah ok
[17:23] <slangasek> who owns the platform-api? The branch is owned by 'phablet-team'
[17:23] <slangasek> (I need someone to own bug #1465958)
[17:23] <slangasek> hmm maybe I should just submit a branch and see what happens :)
[17:24] <greyback> slangasek: no clear maintainer afaik, people only touch it when they have to.
[17:24] <slangasek> well that's suboptimal!
[17:26] <slangasek> ogra_: ^^ see, if we had all these packages through the MIR process, nobody would be allowed to drop them on the floor ;)
[17:27] <greyback> slangasek: this wouldn't happen to help you, would it: https://code.launchpad.net/~mir-team/platform-api/delete-deprecations/+merge/254170
[17:28] <robru> boiko: lol, so while we were talking, greyback went ahead and discovered on his own what happens when you have a manual source upload configured in a dual silo: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-036-1-build/22/console
[17:28] <slangasek> greyback: I'm happy to point at the mir team, sure :)
[17:29] <boiko> robru: yeah, we better do it in two steps then
[17:29] <robru> boiko: yeah I think that'll work best
[17:38] <ogra_> slangasek, yes, i'm fully with you, it wasnt me who decided to stop nagging about MIRs
[17:42] <robru> brb
[18:04] <robru> barry: I think you put columns I and J on the wrong row there
[18:05] <robru> barry: kenvandine: I gotta step out for a longer lunch, can somebody cover trainguard duty for an hour or two? shouldn't be too busy
[18:09] <Mirv> robru: jhodapp greyback: qt*-opensource-src-gles is different from qtmir-gles & co since Qt doesn't have source branches (only packaging), the -gles are not handled via branches, and the packages are actually different and contain only portions of the non-gles packages.
[18:10] <mzanetti> trainguards, hey, any reason why silo 41 seems stuck?
[18:10] <barry> robru: dang. very hard to parse the spreadsheet, but that's nothing you don't already know ;)
[18:10] <barry> robru: sure, i can
[18:11] <Mirv> robru: jhodapp greyback: my method is about the following: dget latest -gles.dsc , quilt pop all patches, bzr init, bzr add * .qmake.conf .tag, apply bzr diff from the non-gles branch's changes _as far as they apply to gles, including to different package names like libfoo-gles.install_, add a simple "sync with ..." changelog entry, double-check all the changes are correct and upload
[18:11] <boiko> robru: https://launchpad.net/~boiko/+archive/ubuntu/source-uploads/+packages
[18:11] <boiko> robru: telepathy-qt5 to copy to silo 39
[18:12] <jhodapp> Mirv, upload to where?
[18:12] <robru> barry: can you copy that package for boiko? I'm afk sorry
[18:13] <Mirv> jhodapp: to the PPA, you need a trainguard for that. you also need to a trainguard to upload the normal package, branch cannot be used since it's only a packaging branch
[18:13] <boiko> robru: barry: it is not super urgent though, it can wait a bit if you guys need time, that's fine
[18:13] <jhodapp> Mirv, hmm interesting
[18:14] <robru> mzanetti: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/wily-adt-unity-scope-click/lastBuild/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/console autopkgtest regression, you'll need to investigate
[18:14] <barry> boiko: sorry, what do you need?
[18:15] <jhodapp> Mirv, I'll give that a try and let you know if I have questions, thanks
[18:17] <mzanetti> robru, interesting. how would I get to this log from the dashboard?
[18:17] <mzanetti> ah... just found it
[18:19] <Mirv> jhodapp: I can also handle both for you, but I'd prefer that loicm gets to submit the branches upstream so I can get the patches with proper headers from upstream code tracker
[18:20] <jhodapp> Mirv, sure that'd be fine and much appreciated. loicm isn't quite ready to submit it upstream as he still needs to write unittests for it
[18:20] <Mirv> jhodapp: but since I'm away after tomorrow for two weeks you may need to handle it with sil2100/robru, doing manual uploads to the PPA (bzr bd -S will just work and fetch the orig tarball, and the -gles as guided above)
[18:20] <jhodapp> Mirv, how long would it take you to get into a silo?
[18:22] <Mirv> jhodapp: 1 mins for the normal package it seems, I just uploaded the normal package to the PPA. you need need the -gles until it's ready and patches are finalized.
[18:23] <Mirv> the package has a test version 5.4.2-1ubuntu2~wily1~test1 which can be incremented for iterations
[18:23] <Mirv> jhodapp: so it's building now https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-038/+packages
[18:23] <jhodapp> Mirv, oh awesome, thanks for doing that
[18:23] <Mirv> np
[18:24] <Mirv> "you need need the -gles" == "you don't need the -gles"
[18:24] * Mirv time to get some sleep :)
[18:24] <jhodapp> Mirv, have a good one
[18:25] <Mirv> robru: so the silo should actually be configured with manual uploads of qtmultimedia-opensource-src and qtmultimedia-opensource-src-gles, not a MP
[18:25] <Mirv> thanks!
[18:35] <boiko> barry: sorry, got a phone call here, I just need telepathy-qt5 copied from here: https://launchpad.net/~boiko/+archive/ubuntu/source-uploads/+packages to silo 39
[18:36] <barry> boiko: okay. not sure i know how to do that but i'll try ;)
[18:37] <boiko> barry: thanks :)
[18:45] <barry> boiko: okay, sorry i don't know how to do that. let's wait for robru to return and then he can tell both of us ;)
[18:45] <boiko> barry: no problems, thanks for trying :)
[18:49] <barry> why train, why?
[18:50] <ogra_> did you pay your ticket ?
[18:50] <barry> apparently not. is casey jones driving this thing?
[18:52] <barry> console says it successfully uploaded the packages, but the ppa is empty
[19:15] <robru> barry: can you use the ppa page to copy packages? It's nothing train specific, just needs a regular copy-package
[19:16] <barry> robru: i tried copy-package but it failed
[19:17] <robru> barry: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-040 there's nothing in your ppa. Upload is being rejected. Most likely the version number is invalid. Ensure the version number is higher than any previous uploads.
[19:18] <robru> barry: for boiko 's request, if you go to the page for his ppa, click package details, there's a button "copy packages", then you can pick the silo ppa s destination.
[19:19] <robru> barry: I'm still afk sorry, family visiting
[19:19] <boiko> robru: maybe at some poit it would be easier if landers had the ability to do that themselves?
[19:19] <barry> robru: ah, cool. i guess you can't copy-package from one ppa to another from a local machine
[19:20] <barry> robru, boiko anyway, trying to copy package via the web page to Landing PPA 039 (RTM) -- correct destination boiko?
[19:20] <barry> robru: 3.0.1-0ubuntu1 should be higher than any previous upload, but i guess i'll bump it to 3.0.1-0ubuntu2 for grins and giggles
[19:20] <boiko> barry: it is this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-039, not sure if it is the Landing PPA 039 (RTM)
[19:21] <robru> barry: not rtm
[19:21] <barry> boiko: got it. question: same destination series? (i.e. wily). rebuild copied source or copy existing binaries?
[19:22] <boiko> barry: too many questions :D
[19:22] <robru> barry: if version bump fails, ping an lp person to get the upload failure message. Train doesn't get them
[19:22] <robru> barry: rebuild
[19:22] <barry> robru: ack
[19:22] <barry> robru: ack
[19:22] <boiko> barry: so, wily, I think rebuild is better because my private ppa has only x86 builds, I need the armhf one too
[19:22] * barry is a good button pushing monkey
[19:23] <barry> boiko: done. let's see what happens!
[19:23] <boiko> barry: thanks a lot!
[19:23] <boiko> robru: thanks for the help
[19:23] <robru> barry: thanks a bunch, in still an hour away from a keyboard
[19:23] <barry> yeppers
[19:24] <robru> boiko: you're welcome
[19:24] <barry> robru: so. after version bump and push to branch, just reconfigure my silo?
[19:35] <robru> barry: no reconfigure, just build
[19:36] <barry> robru: okay. ppa still looks empty anyway, but i'll let this definitively fail before i proceed
[19:37] <bfiller> rvr: thanks for testing silo 8, saw you marked it passed. can you update the spreadsheet so it gets published?
[19:43] <robru> barry: check with lp admin, they have access to the rejection emails
[19:46] <barry> robru: ack
[19:51] <barry> robru: not sure any lp admins are around. i'm thinking about just force cleaning the silo, deleting the row and starting over. is that insane?
[19:56] <AlbertA> trainguards: can I get a silo for line 64?
[19:56] <barry> AlbertA: now that i think i can do ;)
[20:10] <slangasek> so according to https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/platform-api-ci/421/console, platform-api is FTBFS on vivid/armhf and vivid/i386. But this is not a regression introduced by my MP. Why was this not caught as part of the testing of the mir landing?
[20:13] <AlbertA> camako: ^
[20:13] <AlbertA> slangasek: vivid + overlay?
[20:14] <AlbertA> or just vivid?
[20:14] <slangasek> AlbertA: it's vivid+overlay, based on the version numbers
[20:14] <slangasek> the bug in question would also affect wily, so it's apparently landed there too
[20:15] <slangasek> so it seems platform-api lacks any autopkgtests that would catch this, for one thing
[20:15] <slangasek> and from the other direction, mir is having api changes that land without coordinated reverse-dep rebuild testing?
[20:17] <robru> AlbertA: tossing a silo and starting over isn't inherently insane, but what problem are you facing that you want to do that? starting a fresh silo with same old MPs probably won't fix anything. unless you mean throwing branches away and starting those over too
[20:18] <robru> barry: back now, thanks a bunch
[20:18] <barry> robru: np. cjwatson is going to look into the issue i'm having in a few hours or tomorrow morning. i'll just do other things in the meantime
[20:19] <AlbertA> robru: ?
[20:21] <AlbertA> slangasek: camako: we typically don't rebuild rdeps if we don't break ABI
[20:22] <AlbertA> slangasek: but I'm unsure on what happened this time
[20:23] <robru> AlbertA: oh sorry, that was supposed to be barry
[20:23] <robru> barry: so tossing the silo and starting over isn't inherently insane...
[20:24] <robru> barry: but I mean, it's unclear to me whether that would actually work, since we don't know the nature of the upload failure.
[20:25] <robru> jhodapp: so I configured the silo the right way around but it's up to you to get those packages prepared manually, which I'm largely unfamiliar with. easiest thing for me is if you upload them to a PPA that you own and then I can copy them into the PPA.
[20:26] <barry> robru: right. i think i'll wait to see if cjwatson can reveal anything, and if not (or even if so) will just redo it
[20:26] <jhodapp> robru, I thought Mirv had prepared it already, maybe I misunderstood what exactly he did
[20:28] <robru> jhodapp: I'm just rereading it now, my understanding is that he was explaining what to do. I just configured the silo the way he recommended.
[20:28] <jhodapp> robru, alright, but he kicked off a build of it
[20:28] <jhodapp> robru, in that silo
[20:29] <robru> jhodapp: oh he did, excellent
[20:30] <jhodapp> robru, indeed, so I think we're good for now
[20:30] <robru> jhodapp: ok, so that package is built, nevermind the silo status "silo ready to build", you can start testing that if you want
[20:30] <jhodapp> robru, awesome, thanks for looking into this though
[20:30] <robru> jhodapp: at some point between now and publication time you'll have to figure out the -gles half, which is still missing though
[20:30] <jhodapp> robru, alright
[20:31] <robru> jhodapp: -gles is only used in the emulator, so basically "make sure current silo works on device, then fix up -gles to match so the emulator doesn't bit-rot"
[20:31] <camako> AlbertA, "@but I'm unsure on what happened this time"... A bunch of event structures have now been hidden in a private header.
[20:32] <robru> barry: so I just checked, system-image was never in that silo before, so versioning isn't the issue. yeah we'll have to wait for somebody to get the exact rejection reason
[20:32] <robru> barry: or I suppose you could try uploading it yourself outside the train and then you'd get the rejection email
[20:33] <AlbertA> camako: ok which is taken care of by https://code.launchpad.net/~mir-team/platform-api/delete-deprecations/+merge/254170 I see
[20:35] <robru> mzanetti: sorry I was afk earlier, did you need any more help with silo 41?
[20:35] <bfiller> robru: mind reconfiguring silo 20? added a new package
[20:37] <robru> bfiller: dobe
[20:37] <robru> done
[20:37] <bfiller> robru: thanks
[20:37] <robru> bfiller: you're welcome
[20:38] <mzanetti> robru, should be fine. dobey is landing a fix for that soon
[20:39] <robru> great
[20:40] <dobey> robru, mzanetti: fix is in silo 22 which is "testing pass. ready to publish" now
[20:41] <robru> dobey: ah, publishing, thanks
[21:23] <boiko> robru: could you please trigger a rebuild of latest vivid build of telephony-service on ppc64el on silo 20?
[21:24] <robru> boiko: done
[21:25] <boiko> robru: thanks!
[21:26] <robru> boiko: you're welcome
[21:27] <rvr> bfiller: Sorry, done!
[21:29] <robru> bfiller: renatu: https://code.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/address-book-app/fix-share/+merge/261651 need this MP approved to publish
[21:31] <renatu> robru, ok I will ask boiko or bill to appove it
[21:32] <boiko> renatu: I can review it
[21:33] <renatu> boiko, please, bfiller already tested it just need a code review
[22:14] <cjwatson> 2015-06-17 17:57:13 DEBUG Rejected:
[22:14] <cjwatson> 2015-06-17 17:57:13 DEBUG Unable to find system-image_3.0.1.orig.tar.gz in upload or distribution.
[22:14] <cjwatson> 2015-06-17 17:57:13 DEBUG Files specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification.
[22:14] <cjwatson> barry: ^-
[22:15] <cjwatson> missing -sa in the train's build for this package I guess
[22:16] <cjwatson> barry: if it were me, I'd probably just build it myself and upload manually, but up to you to work out how to otherwise match what the train's doing, make sure the spreadsheet is happy, etc.; that's outside my competence
[22:18] <robru> cjwatson: thanks
[22:19] <cjwatson> I really must sort things out so that something trainy gets rejection mails. I had plans for that at one point
[22:19] <cjwatson> anyway, bedtime
[22:21] <robru> cjwatson: I think all that needs to happen is for ~ci-train-bot to have it's email address changed to a team mailing list
[22:21] <robru> cjwatson: but #is owns the account, i can't do that myself
[22:21] <robru> barry: so basically I guess this comes down to your packaging being goofy.
[22:21] <robru> barry: debian/watch isn't supported, only split packaging is supported. at least for MPs
[22:23] <robru> barry: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyRelease/InlinePackaging this is the documentation for making packages that the train is capable of managing. if you object to any of it you have to resign yourself to manual uploads.
[22:23] <robru> barry: sorry i should have checked the packaging sooner, wasn'tthinking
[22:24] <slangasek> AlbertA: camako: ok, can we get https://code.launchpad.net/~mir-team/platform-api/delete-deprecations/+merge/254170 landed asap to wily? this is blocking a base library transition
[22:24] <slangasek> I'll fix up my MP to declare the branch dep
[22:46] <barry> cjwatson: thanks! robru how odd, given that 3.0-0ubuntu1 worked just a few days ago and none of this changed since then
[22:47] <robru> barry: i don't even? Did you do a manual source upload?
[22:47] <barry> robru: nope, choo choo all the way
[22:48] <robru> barry: i find it funny you say that "it worked just a few days ago" because the only time i ever hear about s-i is when it totally fails to be handled sensibly by the train. Long history of problems from my perspective.
[22:49] <barry> robru: yeah, what can i say? i don't bug you when Everything Just Works ;)
[22:49] <robru> barry: what silo was it in before?
[22:49] <barry> robru: gosh, i don't remember. some wily silo
[22:50] <robru> barry: you were talking about a new workflow with git, i blame that.
[22:50] <barry> robru: maybe that's it. i think it was the only thing i changed after 3.0. damn, that's a shame
[22:51] <robru> barry: well, try putting that .bzr-builddeb dir in there and see if that fixes it
[22:52] <barry> robru: with a shot i s'pose
[22:52] <robru> barry: LOL https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-managed-branches/ubuntu-system-image/system-image most recent commit is a manual commit due to train breakage, so much for "Everything Just Works" ;-)
[22:53] <robru> barry: follow the wiki I linked though, try to get it as close as you can to train standards, there's really no reason for it not to work if the packaging is in line with expectations
[22:53] <barry> robru: maybe i should just take a taxi instead and do "normal" uploads until we want to copy the packages into some funky fone channel
[22:54] <robru> barry: well that's fine by *me*, but the train is there to automate things if you can manage to conform to it's expectations
[22:55] * barry is obviously a nonconformist
[22:56] <barry> robru: well, i'll do a quick hack and see if that works, and if not i'll futz with it more tomorrow
[22:56] <robru> barry: ok, sorry it's been a hassle, once the spreadsheet is dead I can look at making the train support more use cases
[22:57] <barry> robru: kill it, kill it good
[23:17] <bfiller> robru: silo 8 ready for publish now
[23:19] <robru> bfiller: thanks, published
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"camako",
"cjwatson",
"davmor2",
"dobey",
"fginther",
"greyback",
"jhodapp",
"jibel",
"john-mcaleely",
"mzanetti",
"nik90",
"oSoMoN",
"ogra_",
"popey",
"renatu",
"robru",
"rsalveti",
"rvr",
"sil2100",
"slangasek",
"t1mp"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/17/%23ubuntu-ci-eng.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ci-eng"
}
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2015-06-17-#ubuntu-si
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[05:33] <napsy_> jutro
[05:36] <zdobbie> ahoy
[05:38] <zdobbie> oh my http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/06/new-exploit-turns-samsung-galaxy-phones-into-remote-bugging-devices/
[05:38] <Seniorita> New exploit turns Samsung Galaxy phones into remote bugging devices | Ars Technica
[05:38] <Seniorita> »As many as 600 million phones vulnerable to remote code execution attack.«
[05:42] <napsy_> 6:)
[08:18] <CrazyLemon> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/06/police-use-ultrasonic-device-to-make-sure-drivers-stay-3-feet-from-cyclists/
[08:18] <Seniorita> Police use ultrasonic device to make sure drivers stay 3 feet from cyclists | Ars Technica
[08:18] <Seniorita> »Chattanooga Police now armed with custom-built device to teach drivers the law.«
[08:18] <CrazyLemon> !!
[08:28] <zdobersek> ping
[08:28] <jabuk> zdobersek: pong
[08:28] <jabuk> http://www.quickmeme.com/img/30/300ace809c3c2dca48f2f55ca39cbab24693a9bd470867d2eb4e869c645acd42.jpg
[08:35] <CrazyLemon> http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-14-3451-laptop-ubuntu/
[08:36] <zdobersek> .gif no more
[08:36] <jabuk> http://media.giphy.com/media/NuQ1Tz0fhqeEU/giphy.gif
[09:08] <dz0ny> zdobersek: poznas kaj gnome3 apis?
[09:10] <zdobersek> dz0ny:
[09:10] <zdobersek> .gif maybe maybe not
[09:10] <jabuk> http://media.giphy.com/media/Dh78tzv7OUKDm/giphy.gif
[09:13] <zdobersek> dz0ny: kaj tocno?
[09:16] <dz0ny> zdobersek: tray icon ne prabavi png http://i.imgur.com/JX5CGDD.png
[09:16] <dz0ny> tud app ne
[09:16] <dz0ny> tud ce dam random icon
[09:17] <dz0ny> od druzga appa
[09:20] <dz0ny> zdobersek: fyi https://github.com/atom/electron/blob/master/atom/browser/ui/tray_icon_gtk.cc#L23
[09:20] <Seniorita> electron/tray_icon_gtk.cc at master · atom/electron · GitHub
[09:20] <Seniorita> »electron - Build cross platform desktop apps with web technologies«
[09:22] <yang> kje ste hekerji ?
[09:23] <dz0ny> ohh i needed https://launchpad.net/libappindicator
[09:23] <Seniorita> libappindicator in Launchpad
[09:23] <dz0ny> all fine now
[10:36] <zdobersek> .radar
[10:36] <jabuk> Radarska slika padavin: http://www.arso.gov.si/vreme/napovedi%20in%20podatki/radar_anim.gif
[10:36] <napsy_> jasno ko suza
[13:22] <Seniorita> [OMG! Ubuntu!] Joey-Elijah Sneddon: Music, The GNOME Music Player, Is Getting Smart New Features http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/d0od/~3/0O_V_ZeGDhA/music-the-gnome-music-player-is-getting-smart-new-features
[13:32] <CrazyLemon> so smart, so GNOME
[13:32] <zdobbie> oh, I thought I can edit pictures with that
[13:40] <msev> lol
[15:30] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny OITNB je tko no.. not the best season
[15:37] <zdobbie> well then
[15:37] <zdobbie> better luck next year
[15:37] <idioterna> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/15/06/11/1616215/ubers-rise-in-china-may-be-counterfeit
[15:37] <Seniorita> Uber's Rise In China May Be Counterfeit - Slashdot
[15:37] <idioterna> travelling without moving
[15:37] <Seniorita> »retroworks writes: Josh Horwitz' story in Quartz reports both the apparent rapid success of Uber adaptation in China, and a queasy footnote for shareholders applauding the rapid growth. While China is a natural ride-sharing haven, it also has a tradition of gaming the western system. From the story...«
[15:37] <idioterna> the spice must flow
[15:40] <zdobbie> 'pay me Muricans!'
[15:40] <CrazyLemon> maybe uber is some kind of a scheme made by NSA to spy on us! </just_sayin>
[15:40] <zdobbie> y not Google
[15:40] <CrazyLemon> coz google is smart
[15:43] <zdobbie> .radar
[15:43] <jabuk> Radarska slika padavin: http://www.arso.gov.si/vreme/napovedi%20in%20podatki/radar_anim.gif
[15:43] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie would you like some V-Moda on your head?
[15:43] <CrazyLemon> http://www.engadget.com/2015/06/17/v-moda-3d-printed-shields
[15:43] <Seniorita> V-Moda's 3D-printed headphones can cost you up to $40,000
[15:43] <Seniorita> »From clothing to food, 3D-printed consumer goods are still a hit or miss at this point. Even so, that hasn't stopped companies from trying to feature thi«
[15:44] <zdobbie> V-Ne
[16:13] <CrazyLemon> http://www.slovenskenovice.si/novice/bralci-porocajo/foto-groza-na-franji-krava-padla-na-cesto-poginila
[16:13] <Seniorita> FOTO: Groza na Franji: Krava padla na cesto in umrla | Slovenskenovice.si
[16:14] <Seniorita> »Žival je na kraju padca poginila.«
[16:43] <upd> groza :)
[16:46] <idioterna> to se loh sam v slovenskih novicah zgodi
[16:47] <upd> lolol
[16:49] <CrazyLemon> to se lahko samo na franji*
[16:49] <CrazyLemon> +zgodi
[16:50] <upd> pomojem je ciljala kolesarje
[16:55] <yang> idioterna zakaj se ne udelezis franje, pa posnames filmcka
[16:56] <yang> verjetn bi prisel med prvih 100 po rezultatu
[17:16] <CrazyLemon> ne vem če bi.. idioterna je bl maratonc kot pa 'sprinter' :)
[17:16] <CrazyLemon> prvih 100 na franji pa pomeni povprečno hitrost 40km/h in več
[17:21] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QECl5J9lj1o
[17:21] <Seniorita> Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Phone Unboxing - YouTube
[17:21] <Seniorita> »We got our hands on the brand new Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition and couldn't resist give you a quick peek at what's inside the box. MUSIC: "Happy Alley" Kevin Mac...«
[17:30] <idioterna> yang: ne vidm fore
[17:30] <idioterna> yang: loh gres pa ti, ce hocs ti kamerco posodm
[17:32] <CrazyLemon> chrome://voicesearch/
[17:32] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie see..google is smarter
[17:32] <CrazyLemon> Audio Capture Allowed Yes
[17:34] <msev> a ma kdo od vs ubuntu-mate instaliran
[17:34] <msev> rabm en output
[17:34] <msev> in sicer echo $XDG_DATA_DIRS
[17:34] <msev> ker sm ga uniču in mi zj cycla pri loginu
[17:35] <msev> nemorm pridt do GUI-ja
[17:35] <idioterna> hm
[17:35] <idioterna> nimam mate
[17:35] <idioterna> sodelovka je mela
[17:35] <idioterna> pa je quitnla
[17:35] <msev> no sj kul sm vprašal tut na ubuntu-mate kanalu
[17:36] <msev> sam počakat morm :)
[17:36] <CrazyLemon> tole lahko probaš "/usr/share/mate:/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/"
[17:36] <dz0ny> $XDG_DATA_DIRS mamo vsi :)
[17:37] <msev> ne sj mam sam spremenu sm ga neki
[17:37] <msev> bom povedov
[17:37] <CrazyLemon> povedovaj
[17:37] <msev> js mam sam :home/msev/.local/share
[17:37] <zdobbie> dz0ny: speak for yourselves!
[17:37] <idioterna> /usr/share:/usr/share/kde-plasma:/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/
[17:38] <idioterna> pa res
[17:38] <msev> pa rd bi ohranu še tist kr mam
[17:38] <yang> jaz je ne bi prevozil
[17:38] <CrazyLemon> omg idioterna ma dvakrat /usr/share !
[17:38] <zdobbie> omg wat en overkill
[17:38] <idioterna> to nismo mi nardil
[17:38] <idioterna> yang: eh kva da ne
[17:38] <idioterna> sej je sam 150km
[17:38] <yang> haha
[17:38] <idioterna> ce gres 15 na uro je to ~10 ur
[17:38] <idioterna> pa je 15 na uro _res_ pocas
[17:39] <yang> to je kot od lj do maribora ze z avtom je dolga
[17:39] <msev> še neki me zanima kko se log-outam iz terminala
[17:39] <msev> iz mate-a v terminalu
[17:39] <yang> se ti rit vmes vname
[17:39] <CrazyLemon> msev tako da rebootaš!
[17:39] <CrazyLemon> :P
[17:39] <msev> haha
[17:39] <yang> z unim mrbit bi se dal cyclocross
[17:40] <msev> sudo reboot
[17:40] <CrazyLemon> msev logout poskusi madona! mogoče pa dela!
[17:40] <msev> hehe
[17:40] <msev> no uglavnm a kj probam a raj ne
[17:40] <CrazyLemon> msev seveda moraš probat.. če ne se lahk kr vrneš nazaj na windows
[17:41] <msev> hahahaahaha
[17:41] <msev> Crazy da si neboš slučajn Hololensa pol kupu čez ene 5 let hehe
[17:41] <CrazyLemon> https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=491435
[17:41] <Seniorita> Issue 491435 - chromium - Opt-out Chrome Hotword Shared Module - An open-source project to help move the web forward. - Google Project Hosting
[17:41] <CrazyLemon> kaj je hololens?
[17:42] <msev> ena microsoftova zadeva
[17:42] <msev> pač augmented reality headset
[17:47] <Sky[x]> hello
[17:47] <zdobersek> halo lens
[17:47] <zdobersek> google glass-like
[17:48] <msev> sam da ma ta bl močan računalnik
[17:48] <msev> https://www.microsoft.com/microsoft-hololens/en-us
[17:48] <Seniorita> Microsoft HoloLens | Official Site
[17:48] <Seniorita> »Transform your world with holograms. Microsoft HoloLens brings high-definition holograms to life in your world.«
[17:48] <msev> da lah zadeve v 3d svet postavlja
[17:51] <CrazyLemon> ban boš dobu..ne boš nam prodal tega witchcrafta
[17:51] <zdobersek> I BUY
[17:52] <msev> ej limona a tale profile fajl od mate-a lahko dostopam iz xfce-a?
[17:52] <zdobersek> feck de opressor
[17:52] <msev> a moram bit nujno notr v mate loggan
[17:52] <msev> kar pomen da bom mogu z nanotam popravlat iz terminala un fajl
[17:55] <Sky[x]> kaksen predlog kako debufirat soap povezavo v php? :)
[17:55] <Sky[x]> php sam jav kot da soap server ni dosegljiv :)
[17:55] <Sky[x]> zna biti problem v kakem fw
[17:55] <Sky[x]> sam ne na serverju nekj vmes
[17:56] <msev> joj kko že tildo nardin
[17:56] <msev> nardim*
[17:56] <msev> k pač označuje home
[17:56] <msev> nevermind
[17:57] <msev> sem je skopiral od nekje
[17:57] <msev> hehe
[18:00] <msev> dela
[18:00] <msev> zakon
[18:00] <msev> yeeey
[18:02] <CrazyLemon> weirdo
[18:03] <zdobersek> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[18:03] <zdobersek> copy your tilde here ^
[18:04] <msev> much tilde such wow
[18:05] <msev> cool beans zj grem pa loh na morje brez linux skrbi
[18:05] <msev> :D
[18:07] <CrazyLemon> http://www.uplug.me/
[18:07] <Seniorita> Welcome to u:Plug - The New Charger
[18:07] <CrazyLemon> it has a supercharger! so basically you can charge a tesla!
[18:08] <zdobersek> uplug yourself
[20:11] <upd> https://twitter.com/CassandraRules/status/611261309338976257/photo/1
[20:11] <Seniorita> Cassandra auf Twitter: "Feeling “Threatened,” Cleveland Cop Shoots/Kills Family Dog While it was Leashed in Backyard http://t.co/bjoW1ANKjT http://t.co/nzm6Ep6UQ3"
[20:17] <Sky[x]> waaaa php grrr
[20:18] <Sky[x]> koncno najdu problm :>
[20:18] <Sky[x]> hvala bogu za curl d:
[20:18] <Sky[x]> :D
[20:34] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODjwyTGa7ew&feature=youtu.be
[20:34] <Seniorita> Mali Maraton Franja 2015 1/7 - YouTube
[20:34] <CrazyLemon> idioterna tako grafiko ti potrebuješ na svojih videih
[20:44] <yang> idioterna: evo zdaj lahko najames filmsko stanovanje v Getu http://www.nepremicnine.net/nepremicnine.html?id=5909178
[20:44] <Seniorita> BS 3: Oddaja, Stanovanje, 4-sobno, 98 m2 - Nepremicnine.net
[20:44] <Seniorita> »98 m2, 4-sobno, zgrajeno l. 1978, 90 m2 zemljišča, P/4 nad., oddamo. Cena: 780,00 EUR/mes«
[20:47] <CrazyLemon> filmsko??
[20:47] <CrazyLemon> meni čisto nič ne zgleda filmsko
[20:47] <CrazyLemon> razn če so snemal v 80ih letih kak pornič
[20:47] <yang> no bos vaso bajto z bazenom slikal pa pokazal ok
[20:49] <CrazyLemon> povej zakaj tebi to zgleda filmsko.. da čujem ta argument :)
[20:50] <yang> ker so kle vsa ostala stanovanja manjsa
[20:50] <yang> to je stanovanje v bloku
[20:50] <yang> po eno tako stanovanje pride na en blok
[20:50] <yang> blokov pa je v naselju 4 x 16
[20:51] <yang> 4 ulice po 16 blokov
[20:51] <yang> ne mores pa tega stanovanja primerjati z bajturino k ma 400 m2
[20:52] <yang> mensezdi da mu nic ne manjka pa v redu cena najema je
[20:53] <yang> celo šank ima
[20:53] <CrazyLemon> kako stanovanje v bloku če pa ima spredaj vrt ?
[20:54] <CrazyLemon> poglej zadnjo sliko
[20:54] <yang> ja in, atrijsko stanovanje je
[20:54] <yang> nisi se videl atrija ?
[20:54] <CrazyLemon> ne kjer bi bil pogled na nebo pa drevesa pa ki bi mel ograjo
[20:54] <yang> ?
[20:55] <CrazyLemon> ?!?
[20:55] <yang> ja, no zdaj ves kaki atriji so v BS3
[20:55] <CrazyLemon> no to pol ni atrij
[20:55] <CrazyLemon> atrij se nahaja znotraj stavbe
[20:55] <CrazyLemon> ne zunaj
[20:55] <yang> v BS3 so te enote prizidki
[20:55] <yang> tisto ko je sank, ce bolje pogledas so stenge
[20:56] <yang> in stenge gredo v blok, to pa je zunaj
[20:56] <yang> ampak celotna enota se smatra pod blok
[20:57] <yang> nekako zgleda takole, noter je eno dvoinol sobno stanovanje
[20:57] <yang> potem pa s tem prizidkom pride na stirisobno
[21:06] <zdobbie> pejte spat
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:34.425044
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"authors": [
"CrazyLemon",
"Seniorita",
"Sky[x]",
"dz0ny",
"idioterna",
"jabuk",
"msev",
"napsy_",
"upd",
"yang",
"zdobbie",
"zdobersek"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-si"
}
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2015-06-17-#ubuntu-africa
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[06:24] <Kilos> hello africa
[07:06] <elacheche_anis> Hey Kilos :) see you in minutes with elacheche :D :p
[07:06] <Kilos> haha
[08:04] <elacheche> o/
[08:04] <Kilos> o/
[08:05] <Kilos> meeting tonight
[08:08] <elacheche> what meeting?
[08:12] <elacheche> Kilos, ?
[08:12] <Kilos> lemme check
[08:30] <Kilos> wb Neo31
[08:31] <Kilos> elacheche 14:00 - 15:00 Ubuntu Membership Board Meeting #ubuntu-meeting on irc.freenode.net
[08:32] <Neo31> morning Kilos :)
[08:39] <Kilos> morning slystone
[08:52] <elacheche> Kilos, no condidates for today's meeting
[08:52] <Kilos> ah ty
[08:52] <Kilos> but im here anyway
[08:53] <elacheche> Yep.. But no meeting for today.. → Our Rules: Add your wiki page to the meeting agenda at least 24 hours ahead of the meeting
[08:53] <Kilos> lol
[08:53] <elacheche> I'll just send an email about this to remind everybody that we should have a meeting today.. But as there is no condidates so no meeting :)
[08:54] <Kilos> lol
[08:54] <Kilos> why
[08:54] <Kilos> oh maybe some dont have calenders setup
[09:51] <slystone> Morning Kilos!
[09:52] <slystone> Ohai! *
[09:52] <elacheche> o/ slystone
[09:52] <Kilos> all good in france?
[09:52] <slystone> \o elacheche
[09:52] <slystone> Kilos: Except a broken heart, yes
[09:52] <Kilos> oh no what happened?
[09:53] <slystone> Hum, love sucks?
[09:53] <slystone> I'll stick to my computer next time. :3
[09:53] <Kilos> been there, done that
[09:53] <Kilos> yeah safer
[09:54] <slystone> How about you?
[09:54] <Kilos> im good ty, just we in winter here now so kinda cold
[09:55] <slystone> Plenty of sun here! :)
[09:56] <Kilos> oh we have sun but wind from the mountains that had snow have dropped the day temp to 15°c
[09:58] <elacheche> stickyboy, France?
[09:58] <Kilos> haha tab incomplete
[13:14] <elacheche> o/
[13:14] <Kilos> o/
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:34.433751
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Kilos",
"Neo31",
"elacheche",
"elacheche_anis",
"slystone"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/17/%23ubuntu-africa.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-africa"
}
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2015-06-17-#ubuntu-vn
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[09:34] <vubuntor099> cái utorrent nó ko có file configure thì làm sao ./configure
[09:34] <vubuntor099> raven@Darkness:~/Desktop/utorrent-server-alpha-v3_3$ ls docs utserver webui.zip
[09:36] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor099: hỏi utorrent ấy
[09:36] <MrTuxHdb> nó support cho
[09:37] <vubuntor099> :v
[09:37] <Raven27> thui kệ
[09:37] <Raven27> tính kéo mấy bộ porn zìa coi chơi
[09:38] <Raven27> kiếm point fshare mà ko có :3
[09:42] <MrTuxHdb> chỗ này chỉ support phần mềm nguồn mở thôi
[09:42] <MrTuxHdb> xài hàng kia đi mà hỏi tụi kia
[09:43] <Raven27> torrent ứ phải free software hả :v
[09:44] <Raven27> cái transmission bittorrent client ko có chạy được link magnet
[09:44] <Raven27> :(
[09:55] <Raven27> box nayf laf box chat mà buồn thế
[09:55] <Raven27> tán chuyện đê
[09:59] <stk> Raven27: utorrent is not Free Software
[10:17] <MrTuxHdb> Raven27: nhảm
[10:18] <MrTuxHdb> Raven27: transmission support magnet từ đời nào rồi
[10:18] <MrTuxHdb> tối thiểu là 2.52 đã support rồi
[10:18] <MrTuxHdb> giờ là 2.82
[10:18] <MrTuxHdb> wrong
[10:18] <MrTuxHdb> 2.84
[10:25] <Raven27> thế làm sao download magnet từ transmisstion >
[10:25] <Raven27> nó có dấu + mà dấu + là mở ra file torrent
[10:26] <Raven27> à
[10:26] <Raven27> là open chứ
[11:11] <lewtds> .tell Raven27 add thoải mái magnet luôn
[11:11] <SuperLuserv3> lewtds: I'll pass that on when Raven27 is around.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:34.442154
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"MrTuxHdb",
"Raven27",
"SuperLuserv3",
"lewtds",
"stk",
"vubuntor099"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/17/%23ubuntu-vn.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-vn"
}
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2015-06-17-#ubuntustudio-devel
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[10:20] <zequence> cub: Thanks, cub. I will check that out.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:34.444833
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{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"zequence"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/17/%23ubuntustudio-devel.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntustudio-devel"
}
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2015-06-17-#ubuntu-us-fl
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[01:24] <ahoneybun> mhall119: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/sphinxcontrib.youtube
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:34.445453
| 2015-06-17T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"ahoneybun"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/17/%23ubuntu-us-fl.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-fl"
}
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2015-06-17-#juju-dev
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[00:20] <wwitzel3> ericsnow: ping
[00:20] <ericsnow> wwitzel3: hey
[00:24] <fwereade_> right, I had intended to go to sleep rather earlier than this, but hey ho. http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1934/ now has complete logic tests, and enough docs to be worth poking at; I'm now looking to land it if anyone has the bandwidth for it
[00:25] * fwereade_ bed
[01:02] <davecheney> mwhudson i have an email from the go pm who's asking for contact details for the go packaging maintainers
[01:02] <davecheney> i'm tempted to just give him your name
[01:02] <davecheney> that is, unless you can find someone else for me to foist this on
[01:44] <mwhudson> davecheney: in ubuntu? me and doko i guess would be a good start
[01:45] <davecheney> mwhudson: i guess that is my first question
[01:45] <davecheney> don't ubuntu follow debian
[01:45] <davecheney> i wonder if I should send him to the debian folks first
[01:45] <mwhudson> the debain folks are paultag and tianon
[01:45] <davecheney> tainon
[01:45] <davecheney> i think I know him/them
[01:46] <mwhudson> as usual when being asked a question the first response is "what are you trying to achieve"
[01:46] <davecheney> jason is a pm
[01:46] <davecheney> he's used to not getting a straight answer
[01:48] <mwhudson> ah, i think ian cc:ed him on the mail he sent me earlier today
[01:48] <davecheney> jason b
[01:48] <davecheney> yeah, all roads lead back to product managment
[01:50] <mwhudson> yeah
[01:58] <wallyworld> thumper: 5 min chat?
[01:59] <thumper> wallyworld: sure
[02:22] <davecheney> thumper: https://github.com/juju/testing/pull/71
[02:55] <davecheney> thumper: i have a problem
[02:55] <davecheney> lucky(~/src/github.com/juju/juju) % go install -v ./...
[02:55] <davecheney> ../../../gopkg.in/juju/charm.v5/testing/mockstore.go:18:2: cannot find package "gopkg.in/check.v1" in any of: /home/dfc/go/src/gopkg.in/check.v1 (from $GOROOT) /home/dfc/src/gopkg.in/check.v1 (from $GOPATH)
[02:55] <davecheney> juju depends ont he charmstore
[02:55] <davecheney> the charmstore depends on gopkg.in/check.v1
[02:55] <davecheney> and I believe rog will block any landing into that repo
[02:55] <thumper> sure...
[02:56] <thumper> but since we aren't running tests against it, why is it a problem?
[02:56] <davecheney> i *think* this will be ok
[02:56] <davecheney> yes, that
[02:56] <davecheney> but it might also be a blocker
[02:56] <davecheney> i need to point this out
[02:57] <thumper> in theory, gocheck should end up being in any non test dependencies right?
[02:57] <thumper> are we using any *testing packages from the charm package?
[02:57] <thumper> ...
[02:57] <thumper> mockstore?
[02:57] <davecheney> yes
[02:57] <davecheney> so if that package provides checkers that we're using
[02:57] * thumper grunts
[02:57] <davecheney> we're boned
[02:58] <davecheney> if it's just using the types
[02:58] <davecheney> we're probably ok
[02:58] <thumper> ok
[02:58] <thumper> let me know
[02:58] * thumper goes to make coffee
[02:59] <davecheney> we might still be ok, i think gocheck uses an interface
[02:59] <davecheney> or reflection to figure out which of the arguments are checkers
[02:59] <davecheney> and there is no requirement that a cheker implemetns an interface
[03:00] <davecheney> or embeds a checker base type
[03:00] <davecheney> so this might be ok
[03:00] <davecheney> if a bit ropey
[03:00] <davecheney> worker/uniter/runner/jujuc/testing/networking.go:23: cannot use checkers.DeepEquals (type "gopkg.in/check.v1".Checker) as type "github.com/juju/check".Checker in argument to c.Check:
[03:00] <davecheney> "gopkg.in/check.v1".Checker does not implement "github.com/juju/check".Checker (wrong type for Info method)
[03:00] <davecheney> have Info() *"gopkg.in/check.v1".CheckerInfo
[03:00] <davecheney> want Info() *"github.com/juju/check".CheckerInfo
[03:00] <davecheney> opps, spoke too soon
[03:02] <natefinch> ...and that's why you avoid using custom types in interfaces
[03:02] <davecheney> yup
[03:03] <davecheney> thumper: nope
[03:03] <davecheney> i'm screwed
[03:03] <davecheney> we have a gordian knot between juju/juju, juju/testing and check.v1 and charm.v5
[03:04] <davecheney> i cannot complete this change unless the charmstore owners agree to also switch to our fork
[03:04] <natefinch> luckily they work for us, so that should not be that hard? Maybe?
[03:10] <davecheney> thumper: i'm shelving this card, I cannot complete it at thsi time
[03:24] <thumper> davecheney: ack
[03:26] <thumper> man...
[03:26] <thumper> that seems screwed up
[04:06] <davecheney> thumper: what do you want to do ?
[04:07] <thumper> davecheney: I'm unclear as to why the checker is using gopkg.in checker...
[04:08] <davecheney> its a suite
[04:08] <davecheney> check/v.5 uses suites from juju/testing
[04:09] <davecheney> juju/testing expects a "github.com/juju/check".Checker, this is a gc.C
[04:09] <davecheney> check.v5 suites expects a "gopkg.in/check.v1".Checker gc.c
[04:09] <davecheney> check.v5 suites expects a "gopkg.in/check.v1".Checker gc.
[04:09] <davecheney> C
[04:11] <davecheney> hmm, that wasn't quite right
[04:11] <davecheney> some of the names of the gocheck types aren't right in that explanation
[04:11] <davecheney> but the effect is the same
[04:13] <natefinch> because charm.v5 uses gopkg.in/check.v1 and everything else uses github.com/juju/check ... .and the interfaces aren't compatible because they contain package-specific types.
[04:14] <wallyworld> waigani: do you gave time for a chat about simplestreams branch?
[04:14] <waigani> wallyworld: yep sure
[04:14] <wallyworld> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/tanzanite-stand
[04:16] <thumper> davecheney: ah poo
[04:17] <thumper> davecheney, natefinch: can we change juju/check to not expect package specific types?
[04:17] <thumper> however
[04:17] <davecheney> natefinch: is gc.C a type or an internface
[04:17] <thumper> that'll only work for checkers
[04:17] <davecheney> thumper: the problem is suites
[04:17] <thumper> not the C
[04:17] <thumper> right?
[04:17] <thumper> yeah
[04:17] * thumper gets it
[04:18] <davecheney> well, there are several problems
[04:18] <thumper> as frustrating as it is
[04:18] <thumper> even if we could fix juju/check
[04:18] <davecheney> charm.v5 is using check.v1 as it's definition of gc.C passed to suites
[04:18] <davecheney> and juiju/testing is using our fork
[04:18] <thumper> with the charms.v5 using gopkg.in, it means it can't use us
[04:18] * thumper nods
[04:18] <thumper> double poo
[04:18] <davecheney> TL;DR, everyone has to upgrade
[04:19] <thumper> this is go types done wrong IMO
[04:19] <thumper> davecheney: I think the fastest way to progress would be to provide the upstream gocheck with the exact patch we want
[04:20] <thumper> and apply pressure to get it in
[04:20] <davecheney> i agree
[04:20] <thumper> did that other Chris fella respond to the PR comment?
[04:22] <thumper> an aside should be for us to learn from this when designing bits of code
[04:22] <davecheney> nope
[04:22] <davecheney> thumper: i agree
[04:23] <davecheney> but there is no value in having that conversation on IRC
[04:23] <davecheney> it will be lost
[04:23] <davecheney> please take it to the juju-dev mailing list
[04:24] <thumper> can you propose a PR to gocheck upstream that has the fix we need, based on the work Chris did?
[04:24] <thumper> davecheney: ?
[04:24] <davecheney> yes, on it
[04:26] <thumper> cheers
[04:41] <waigani> anastasiamac: I started reviewing your branch but need to run sorry, I've added a few comments, will continue later if it's still up.
[05:01] <davecheney> thumper: oh, THATS's right
[05:01] <davecheney> the gocheck tests dont pass
[05:01] <davecheney> i forgot that
[05:01] <davecheney> oh well
[05:01] <davecheney> fuck it
[05:01] <thumper> WT actual F?
[05:01] <davecheney> yeah, i logged that bug a year or so ago
[05:02] <davecheney> alst time I made a fix to a checker
[05:02] <davecheney> well, maybe i logged a bug
[05:05] <thumper> wallyworld: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1948/
[05:05] <thumper> wallyworld: sorry
[05:05] <wallyworld> looking
[05:05] <thumper> was after waigani
[05:06] <thumper> but he isn't here
[05:06] <thumper> w-TAB
[05:06] <thumper> fail
[05:06] <thumper> wallyworld: I can get someone else that is more familar with the code if you like
[05:06] <wallyworld> thumper: maybe that's better?
[05:07] <wallyworld> i 'm about to go do school pickup
[05:07] <thumper> wallyworld: sure, np
[05:17] <davecheney> git push --set-upstream origin fix-data-race-on-status
[05:17] <davecheney> fatal: https://gopkg.in/check.v1/info/refs not valid: is this a git repository?
[05:18] <davecheney> reason 2^63 why I don't like gopkg.in
[05:18] <davecheney> "oh,you downloaded this repo, but I'm not going to tell you where origin _really_ is"
[05:19] <davecheney> thumper: https://github.com/go-check/check/pull/44
[05:19] <thumper> davecheney: thanks
[05:19] <davecheney> confirmed the race in worker/provisioner is fixed
[05:19] <thumper> awesome
[05:49] <thumper> laters peeps
[07:04] <wallyworld> axw: if you have 15 minutes, would love a small review for a 1.24.1 bug fix http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1947/
[07:09] <axw> wallyworld: looking
[07:09] <wallyworld> ty
[07:14] <axw> wallyworld: when is a unit in "maintenance"? that's when the machine is being provisioned?
[07:15] <wallyworld> axw: Unknown during allocation
[07:15] <wallyworld> maintenance during install hook
[07:15] <wallyworld> door, be back in a sec
[07:16] <dimitern> wallyworld, hey
[07:16] <dimitern> wallyworld, re bug 1464616 we talked about yesterday
[07:16] <mup> Bug #1464616: destroy-machine --force no longer forceably destroys machine <destroy-machine> <regression> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.24:In Progress by wallyworld> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464616>
[07:17] <wallyworld> dimitern: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1947/
[07:17] <dimitern> wallyworld, I couldn't figure out what might be the issue without logs, but it seems you've got it
[07:17] <wallyworld> axw is looking
[07:17] <wallyworld> yeah :-)
[07:17] <dimitern> wallyworld, awesome :)
[07:20] <wallyworld> axw: part of the complicating factor now is that we need to look at both agent and unit status to see what's going on. before it was all just unit status
[07:20] * axw nods
[07:22] <dimitern> wallyworld, reviewed
[07:22] <wallyworld> ty
[07:25] <wallyworld> axw: with the "...OrError" - it would be an error whn running the install hook, so you could argue it's still installing, hence i left it off the name. is that ok, or wuld you prefer the name change?
[07:25] * dimitern is itching to write some usable docs around the various CI python classes / tools
[07:25] <axw> wallyworld: it could also be in error unrelated to installing
[07:26] <axw> wallyworld: so not really
[07:26] <wallyworld> could be but the other checks imit it to installing
[07:26] <wallyworld> i'll change the name
[07:26] <axw> wallyworld: the other asserts do, but that means you have to know about the asserts together in context
[07:26] <wallyworld> that is true
[07:27] <axw> wallyworld: completely unrelated: I changed tack on volume destruction a bit. I undid what I was talking about in the standup, and have simplified the worker so it just destroys volumes/filesystems when they're Dead. then in state we'll mark a volume/filesystem as Dead when it has no more dependents
[07:28] <axw> so the worker no longer has to track dependencies
[07:28] <wallyworld> simplicity is nice
[07:28] <wallyworld> sounds better
[07:29] <dimitern> wallyworld, axw, can a subordinate have actions of its own?
[07:30] <dimitern> fwereade_, ^^
[07:30] <wallyworld> not sure tbh
[07:30] <dimitern> I'm thinking of creating a simple subordinate charm that has actions returning various networking settings - iptables, routes, etc.
[07:32] <axw> dimitern: sorry no idea
[07:33] <dimitern> no worries, will rtfm :)
[07:34] <wallyworld> dimitern: i don't understand the code review comment about "ErrAborted handling below"
[07:34] <dimitern> wallyworld, well, any txn.Op with an Assert can trigger ErrAborted
[07:35] <wallyworld> sure. which one are you referring to?
[07:35] <dimitern> the unitAgentAllocatingOrInstalling
[07:35] <wallyworld> that's the Assert, sorry i mean which ErrAborted handler?
[07:36] * dimitern actually looks at the full source of that method
[07:36] <wallyworld> it's all takne care of AFAIK. the txn will just be retried as normal
[07:36] <wallyworld> either the unit was not installed or it was when the txn was started
[07:37] <wallyworld> it's called from line 289 func (u *Unit) Destroy() (err error)
[07:38] <dimitern> wallyworld, yeah, I can't see anything wrong with it off hand, but I'd recommend fwereade_ having a look
[07:38] <wallyworld> ta
[07:44] * dimitern now really likes the idea of multi-series charms in the face of cross-series CI tests
[07:48] <dimitern> jw4, are you around by any chance?
[07:57] <wallyworld> jam: i've reworked the resource document a fair bit. the resource-path is i think improved as is the CLI. rick is tied up fixing their production issue, but i've answered is questions and posed a few of my own in new comments. when we are satisfied that the doc is "good enough" to show more people i'll link into the main spec. note that it's not complete, but the aim is for a WIP with enough defined to allow development to start
[09:01] <dimitern> voidspace, jam, fwereade_, standup?
[09:01] <voidspace> dimitern: omw
[09:40] <mup> Bug #1466011 opened: apiserver tests fail on windows <ci> <regression> <test-failure> <windows> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1466011>
[09:58] <fwereade_> wallyworld, I'm afraid http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1947/ does not lgtm, does my comment make sense?
[09:59] <fwereade_> wallyworld, I think you probably want to look at (*State).obliterateUnit
[10:01] <dooferlad> voidspace: success?
[10:02] <lazyPower> omg i think i'm going to cry... i had a trapped upgrade charm pending after i wrote an entire refactor of a hook (~ 250 lines) .. just to have it wiped out by upgrade-charm ;_;
[10:03] <voidspace> dooferlad: nope
[10:03] <fwereade_> lazyPower, owww :(
[10:03] <voidspace> dooferlad: using dhcp seems to overwrite the dns-nameservers option
[10:03] <voidspace> dooferlad: using static (with the correct values) just plain doesn't work
[10:04] <lazyPower> fwereade_: that awkward moment i wish we were still git based so i could have recovered
[10:04] <voidspace> dooferlad: I suspect it's a bad interaction with the bridging config for br0
[10:04] <fwereade_> lazyPower, haha :(
[10:04] <fwereade_> lazyPower, you *should* be able to stop a pending upgrade that hasn't started yet by upgrading back to the original
[10:05] <dooferlad> voidspace: do you actually need br0?
[10:05] <lazyPower> fwereade_: my changes were remote, not local. so i had no backup and forgot i sent the upgrade-charm like an hour prior.
[10:05] <lazyPower> exited the hook thinking "Yes, now i can sync back"
[10:05] <lazyPower> doh
[10:05] <fwereade_> lazyPower, bad luck :(
[10:05] <lazyPower> indeed
[10:05] <voidspace> dooferlad: I'll try getting rid of it and see what breaks :-)
[10:05] <dooferlad> voidspace: ahh, fun with networking :-)
[10:06] <lazyPower> it was too late, by the time upgrade_charm was trapped in tmux, i knew i was taking a stroll through "trololol" land
[10:17] <voidspace> dooferlad: apparently I do need it
[10:17] <voidspace> dooferlad: without it, no network
[10:17] <voidspace> dooferlad: I'll dig into where it comes from
[10:18] <voidspace> dooferlad: statically configuring br0 doesn't work - it has a bunch of bridge options set
[10:18] <voidspace> dooferlad: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11729739/
[10:20] <voidspace> dooferlad: it's to do with kvm (br0)
[10:20] <voidspace> dooferlad: docs here imply I ought to be able to statically configure
[10:20] <voidspace> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking
[10:24] <voidspace> dooferlad: I was missing gateway before which is why I think statically configuring br0 didn't work
[10:26] <dooferlad> voidspace: oh, yes, you will need that!
[10:31] <dimitern> dooferlad, you've got a review; btw add an Overhead card for it please
[10:31] <voidspace> dooferlad: but dns-nameservers seems to be ignored now
[10:32] <dooferlad> dimitern: thanks, already acting on it
[10:32] <dooferlad> dimitern: overhead card?
[10:33] <dimitern> dooferlad, for that PR
[10:34] <dooferlad> dimitern: don't all PRs go through review though?
[10:34] <dimitern> dooferlad, i'd like to track all PRs that land with cards
[10:34] <dimitern> dooferlad, yes, indeed
[10:35] <dimitern> dooferlad, we're doing a lot of overhead tasks and a few actually planned, so I'd like to keep track of this
[10:40] <voidspace> dooferlad: it seems like I need to have the dns-nameservers section in eth0 not in br0
[10:40] <dooferlad> voidspace: oh, interesting!
[10:40] <voidspace> dig now reports the correct nameserver
[10:41] <voidspace> doesn't *seem* to have improved connection speed
[10:41] <voidspace> I'll try running the tests though
[10:41] <dooferlad> if you "dig nanosheep.org" or some other server you haven't looked at recently, does it take long?
[10:41] <dooferlad> voidspace: ^^
[10:42] <voidspace> dooferlad: that returned quickly enough
[10:42] <voidspace> I think this means that dns isn't the issue
[10:43] <dooferlad> voidspace: is quickly sub 200ms? From 127.0.0.1? If so, yea, that looks fine.
[10:43] <voidspace> dooferlad: hmm... 599ms
[10:44] <voidspace> cmd/juju tests are no quicker
[10:44] <dooferlad> voidspace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11729870/
[10:44] <voidspace> :-/
[10:45] <dooferlad> voidspace: ping response time from an upstream DNS server?
[10:46] <voidspace> dooferlad: for lots of other sites I'm getting really quick responses
[10:47] <dooferlad> voidspace: it has to be a site you haven't looked up or you will get a cached response
[10:47] <voidspace> dooferlad: cached ones return in 0ms :-)
[10:47] <dooferlad> voidspace: I get 1ms cached responses
[10:47] <voidspace> dooferlad: response times for other domains really vary
[10:47] <dooferlad> voidspace: could just be a one-off slow response
[10:47] <voidspace> yeah
[10:48] <dooferlad> OK, other stuff. Do other machines on your network have the same slow browsing problem?
[10:48] <voidspace> no
[10:49] <dooferlad> anything unusual about that machines network connection? Could you try another cable/
[10:49] <dooferlad> ?
[10:49] <voidspace> the connection speed is fine
[10:50] <voidspace> and that wouldn't affect locally running tests
[10:50] <dooferlad> indeed
[10:50] <voidspace> it's not slow browsing, it's slow initial connection
[10:50] <voidspace> (which really sounds like dns but I'm fairly sure isn't now)
[10:50] <voidspace> and that particular problem started after we changed iptables
[10:50] <voidspace> I might try removing those rules to see if it changes again
[10:50] <dooferlad> sounds like a plan
[10:51] <voidspace> I don't *know* that cmd/juju got slow then, it may just be a coincidence
[10:51] <voidspace> so removing them and trying again will let me know
[10:51] <voidspace> I might go back to some real work for a bit first
[10:51] <dooferlad> removing those iptables rules is kind of trivial though - just comment them out of the saved rules file and restore the rules from it
[10:54] <dooferlad> dimitern: review responded to.
[10:54] <dimitern> dooferlad, cheers, looking
[10:55] <dimitern> dooferlad, let's drop the second failing StopsInstances() call from that test then
[10:56] <dooferlad> dimitern: we already test StopInstances, I was just seeing if there was anything interesting that would come up around doing it twice. The entire test is pointless if we drop the second call.
[10:56] <dimitern> dooferlad, it would be good to figure out why it's reporting some PathError, when it should return something like "no such container" etc.
[10:56] <dooferlad> dimitern: that is because the first thing it does is try to delete some files and directories, then it calls lxc-destroy
[10:57] <dooferlad> dimitern: so the first error it returns it just what comes back from those delete calls
[10:57] <dimitern> dooferlad, right, that's seems wrong
[10:57] <dooferlad> dimitern: calling lxc-destroy first would seem sane to me, then tidying up.
[10:58] <dimitern> dooferlad, yeah, let's go back to this at some point
[10:58] <dooferlad> dimitern: on the 1.24 branch, I was using AssertFileContains rather than AssertFileContains because I figured having both functions was probably overkill.
[10:58] <dooferlad> dimitern: was going to ask about removing AssertFileContains
[10:59] <dooferlad> dimitern: happy to keep both and use them though. AssertFileContains does seem to be the most common use case, so having a convenience function seems OK.
[11:03] <dimitern> dooferlad, I like the more generic AssertFileContents, but since asserts with jc.Contains on files are fairly common, having a simple wrapper around the more generic assert is nice
[11:59] <fwereade_> waigani, axw: you're both online, and have contributed to state/collections.go; can either of you ballpark estimate the hassle of extracting it (and multiEnvRunner ...and whatever else has to come with it) into its own state subpackage, so I can make use of it from another state subpackage?
[12:00] <fwereade_> waigani, axw: my gut feeling is "difficult"?
[12:00] <fwereade_> jam, sorry, 5 mins
[12:01] <jam> fwereade_: k
[12:01] <jam> alexisb isn't here yet either
[12:01] <waigani> fwereade_: actually I don't think it would be that bad
[12:02] <waigani> fwereade_: menno and I worked on it originally when we migrated the collections to multi envs
[12:02] <waigani> menno wrote the original collections.go and would be most familiar with it
[12:05] <fwereade_> waigani, yeah, I ask because you're online ;p
[12:06] <waigani> but off the top of my head, I can't think of any "got yas". state/txn.go would have to import the subpackage but that should be fine
[12:07] <waigani> fwereade_: I can bring it up in the standup - 9hrs from now. I'd be happy to look at extracting it - but it'll depend on tim and priorities etc
[12:47] <jw4> dimitern: probably too late, but you pinged?
[12:48] <dimitern> jw4, no worries; I had some questions re actions, but I figured it out from the docs :)
[12:48] <jw4> dimitern: cool
[12:53] <TheMue> dimitern: could you paste a rough outline how you would use the remover with IP addresses? it's no entity, so would you implement an EntityFinder taking a tag but looking for the IPAddress by id?
[12:53] <TheMue> dimitern: even if it's a nice component for entities it's more code than the direct implementation
[12:54] <dimitern> TheMue, that's a good question
[12:54] <TheMue> dimitern: or alternatively make the IPAddress to a valid entity too (with adding an according kind to juju/names).
[12:54] <dimitern> TheMue, which reminds me we don't have tags for addresses
[12:55] <TheMue> dimitern: reading a bit of remover code and how it works on entities it's really a nice mixin
[12:55] <TheMue> dimitern: exactly
[12:56] <dimitern> TheMue, let's do this - propose a juju/names PR that introduces IPAddressTag
[12:56] <dimitern> TheMue, this should be a separate, overhead card btw
[12:57] <dimitern> TheMue, tags need a kind (used as prefix), let's use "ip-<value>"
[12:57] <TheMue> dimitern: btw, one little aspect of mixins is that you inherit fields and methods you don't directly aware of, a bit like OOP. here composition and explicit method passing Foo() { my.plug.Foo() } would be better (long term)
[12:58] <TheMue> dimitern: OK, will add the tag as quick one and add it with a second PR to the remover
[12:58] <dimitern> TheMue, that's true, but if the embeddable type is intended to be embedded, this shouldn't be a problem (fields/methods "creeping in" unobserved :)
[12:59] <dimitern> TheMue, yeah, it's easy to do the juju/names PR first
[12:59] <TheMue> dimitern: it's more an effect of visibility
[13:00] * TheMue loves DVCSes for simple switching between branches
[13:00] <dimitern> TheMue, hmm.. but I can see a problem with address tags
[13:01] <dimitern> TheMue, just the value won't be enough to make a transformation from network.Address to names.AddressTag and back (e.g. in the case Scope was set to something else, rather than "discovered" automatically from the value)
[13:01] <dimitern> fwereade_, ping
[13:01] <fwereade_> dimitern, pong
[13:02] <TheMue> dimitern: ic
[13:02] <dimitern> fwereade_, hey, so it's high time to introduce tags for ip addresses
[13:02] <TheMue> dimitern: could we by this way find a better name than just "value"?
[13:02] <dimitern> fwereade_, but since it's a struct, just using the Value is not loseless wrt transforming from tag to address
[13:03] <TheMue> dimitern: could we by this way find a better name than just "value"?
[13:03] <TheMue> ouch, twice
[13:03] <dimitern> TheMue, yeah, I'm thinking of "ip-<type>-<scope>-<network>-<value>"
[13:04] <dimitern> fwereade_, ^^ ? or perhaps "<type-kind>-<scope>-<network>-<value>" e.g. ipv4-public-juju-private-10.3.2.1
[13:04] <TheMue> dimitern: value is the address itself in standard notation, isn't it?
[13:05] <dimitern> TheMue, yeah, but it also holds extra metadata about its scope, type, and network
[13:05] <dimitern> it can even be a hostname
[13:06] <fwereade_> dimitern, that feels wrong
[13:06] <fwereade_> dimitern, having all that jammed into a tag
[13:06] <dimitern> fwereade_, the unique _id for ipaddressesC is DocID, which can be used in a tag, but it'll contain the envuuid
[13:07] <TheMue> dimitern: the field value, the rest has extra fields, is only the address/hostname. hmm, sadly don't have a better name than "value" :/
[13:07] <fwereade_> dimitern, all that metadata is, well, metadata
[13:09] <dooferlad> dimitern: I have a ship it on http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1941/ but not the original code on trunk (http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1936/). Could you press the magic button?
[13:09] <dimitern> fwereade_, we *could* go only with the value in the tab, *but* this won't work if you're trying to serialize e.g. "public:10.0.3.1" as "ip-10.0.3.1", as on the reverse path with network.NewAddress(tag.Id()) the scope will be "guessed" as local-cloud not public
[13:09] <fwereade_> dimitern, right
[13:09] <dimitern> dooferlad, looking
[13:09] <dimitern> fwereade_, or "ip-localhost" for that matter looks weird
[13:10] <fwereade_> dimitern, so the reason to jam all that into the tag is for uniqueness?
[13:11] <dimitern> fwereade_, use a single tag type and multiple sub-kinds? "ip<kind>-<value>" ? e.g. "iphostname-localhost" or (iphost-?) "ipv4-10.0.3.1", "ipv6-2001:db8::1"
[13:11] <fwereade_> dimitern, if those bits are all immutable per address (which I imagine they are), how about `address-<sha256-of-immutable-attributes>`?
[13:11] <TheMue> that feels strange
[13:11] <dimitern> fwereade_, not for uniqueness, as the value + envuuid is the _id, so it's unique, but for better carrying out the original intent
[13:12] <dimitern> fwereade_, hmm we need to know what to hash back on FindEntity though
[13:12] <jam> dimitern: I think fwereade's idea is that what you really want is a document with a lot of data in it, and not have to shove all of that information into the tag
[13:12] <jam> what about "ip-<RANDOM>" and then that just gives you what doc you have?
[13:12] <fwereade_> dimitern, well, you store the hash in the doc and look up by that, right?
[13:13] <fwereade_> jam, indeed
[13:13] * jam disappears to go shopping
[13:13] <dimitern> fwereade_, just for the sake of having a sha256 hash in the tags?
[13:13] <fwereade_> dimitern, more for the sake of not jamming a whole struct into a field
[13:14] <TheMue> so we could take a meaningless but unique uuid too
[13:14] <dimitern> fwereade_, hmm
[13:14] <fwereade_> TheMue, indeed, equally
[13:14] <fwereade_> dimitern, opaque identifiers are good things
[13:14] <dimitern> fwereade_, I'd rather hash the DocID and use that - it's already in the doc and can be found
[13:14] <fwereade_> dimitern, sure, that sounds fine too
[13:15] <TheMue> +1
[13:15] <dimitern> fwereade_, address-<sha256(_id)>
[13:15] <waigani> wallyworld: ignoring unknown tools metadata: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1955/
[13:15] <TheMue> dimitern: address-<docID>
[13:15] <fwereade_> dimitern, that sgtm, you'll still have to store the hashed docid to look it up :)
[13:16] <mup> Bug #1465695 changed: StorageAddSuite setup fails <ci> <intermittent-failure> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core db-log:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1465695>
[13:17] <TheMue> or event better ipaddress-<docID>, ipaddress represents the real type (if we have other addresses in the future, like mac-address), docID is already in the document
[13:17] <dimitern> fwereade_, yeah, or perhaps Find all for the current env and iterate? :)
[13:18] <TheMue> and docID is unique
[13:18] <dimitern> TheMue, it's not just an ip address, as it can be a hostname
[13:18] <dimitern> fwereade_, why not use the docId unhashed indeed?
[13:19] <TheMue> dimitern: we talk about a tag identifying a type, and the typename is IPAddress. otherwise we should rename the type too *iiirks*
[13:19] <dimitern> dooferlad, ship it :)
[13:19] <dooferlad> dimitern: click!
[13:19] <TheMue> dimitern: that's why I would take ipaddress-<docID>
[13:20] <dimitern> TheMue, I agree the name can be better, but let's not change everything at once :)
[13:20] <TheMue> dimitern: and other address types later, mac addresses, addresses for bills, whatever, can use their type as part of the tag
[13:20] <TheMue> dimitern: no no, I don't want to change it, only want to have it in the tag
[13:20] <TheMue> dimitern: so it's 1:1
[13:22] <dimitern> fwereade_, with the "address-<docID>" format we'll have tags like "address-fedcba98-7654-4321-ba98-76543210beef:10.0.3.1"
[13:23] <TheMue> dimitern: you surely wanted to write "ipaddress-<docID>" *scnr*
[13:23] <dimitern> fwereade_, or, maybe even better to just use the value and rely on the magical append of "envuuid:" that happens in state/collections.go for a naked FindId()
[13:24] <dimitern> TheMue, I don't mind *that* much
[13:24] <dimitern> :)
[13:24] <TheMue> hehe
[13:25] * dimitern reads back what he've written earlier *facepalm*
[13:25] <fwereade_> dimitern, the only *really* important thing about a tag is that it be unique within an environment
[13:25] <dimitern> we don't need to care for tag-to-ip conversion based on the format of the tag at all
[13:25] <mup> Bug #1465695 opened: StorageAddSuite setup fails <ci> <intermittent-failure> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core db-log:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1465695>
[13:26] <dimitern> fwereade_, yes, but none of the tags (except the environment tags obviously) carry the envuuid prefix that make them unique
[13:26] <fwereade_> dimitern, yeah: sometimes that's a convenient feature, but I think the only thing that really really depends on info encoded in ids is the watcher logic in state
[13:27] <fwereade_> dimitern, I think it's fine for a tag to be unique only within the scope of a given environment
[13:27] <dimitern> fwereade_, yeah, they report local ids
[13:27] <dimitern> not docIDs
[13:27] <dimitern> TheMue, fwereade_, ok, as I need to go out for a while, can we agree on "ipaddress-<value>" for the tag format and live with it?
[13:27] <TheMue> dimitern: so in our case it would be "ipaddress-<value>"?
[13:27] <TheMue> h5
[13:28] <dimitern> yeah
[13:28] <fwereade_> dimitern, can we really guarantee uniqueness per environment there?
[13:29] <fwereade_> dimitern, it's causing my "changes stakeholders will ask for" spidey sense to tingle
[13:29] <TheMue> hmm, in an env with multiple subnets sharing the same addresses? possible?
[13:29] <fwereade_> TheMue, I think it's *currently* specced that subnets can't overlap
[13:30] <dimitern> fwereade_, yes we can as you can only use such tags once you've logged into a given environment
[13:30] <fwereade_> TheMue, dimitern: I just feel like that's an unreasonable restriction in a complex network environment
[13:31] <dimitern> fwereade_, we're only talking about how to access ipaddress entities we already have in the db for the current env
[13:31] <fwereade_> TheMue, dimitern: why can't isolated subnets use overlapping ranges?
[13:31] <TheMue> fwereade_: but can an environment have multiple disjunct subnets, having the same address range
[13:31] <dimitern> fwereade_, isolated like in a separate space?
[13:32] <fwereade_> dimitern, yes
[13:32] <dimitern> fwereade_, TheMue, subnet CIDRs for a given space should NOT overlap
[13:32] <fwereade_> dimitern, I know that juju will refuse to allow it
[13:32] <dooferlad> as soon as you get >1 network associated with a machine you can get up to all sorts of fun.
[13:32] <TheMue> dimitern: should or must?
[13:32] <dimitern> fwereade_, TheMue, that's the whole point of the subnets being equal within a space
[13:33] <fwereade_> dimitern, within a single space, yes, you don't want subnets to overlap
[13:33] <dimitern> TheMue, fair enough - it must not overlap
[13:34] <TheMue> dimitern: ok, so we ensure that we can have multiple subnets but even then each IP is only used once
[13:34] <dimitern> fwereade_, the case you're describing sounds like having a machine in two separate, disjoint spaces
[13:34] <fwereade_> dimitern, but if you're modelling two spaces, that are completely distinct, and happen to use overlapping ranges, juju will fail
[13:34] <mup> Bug #1465695 changed: StorageAddSuite setup fails <ci> <intermittent-failure> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core db-log:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1465695>
[13:35] <TheMue> dimitern: so in this case using the address value as part of the tag seems to be fine
[13:35] <mup> Bug #1466087 opened: TestAllInstances fails <ci> <test-failure> <juju-core:Incomplete> <juju-core devices-api-maas:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1466087>
[13:35] <fwereade_> dimitern, right?
[13:35] <dimitern> fwereade_, now it won't as that's not yet enforced, but I think it should anyway
[13:36] <fwereade_> dimitern, you're saying that any organisation that has more than one network using 10.0. is Doing It Wrong? ;p
[13:36] <dimitern> fwereade_, the problem is with a given machine's single routing table overlapping ranges will lead to issues with routing
[13:36] <fwereade_> dimitern, I don't care about machines
[13:36] <fwereade_> dimitern, I care about tags being unique
[13:37] <TheMue> *lol*
[13:37] <dimitern> fwereade_, you can't have a machine with 2 NICs, each on the same overlapping (even not completely) rfc1918 subnets and expect it to work without extra care (static routes, metrics, etc.)
[13:38] <mup> Bug #1466087 changed: TestAllInstances fails <ci> <test-failure> <juju-core:Incomplete> <juju-core devices-api-maas:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1466087>
[13:38] <dimitern> fwereade_, right, what I'm proposing is not worse that what we have already in the face of multiple envs in the same state db
[13:38] <TheMue> dimitern: two machines, one nic each, one ip each, each in a different subnet in the same env, both having the same IP. possible?
[13:38] <fwereade_> TheMue, thank you :)
[13:38] <dimitern> fwereade_, machine tags (or others) are only unique within their env
[13:38] <fwereade_> dimitern, I know
[13:39] <fwereade_> dimitern, I'm saying address tags should too
[13:39] <fwereade_> dimitern, you seem to either be saying that they shouldn't, or that there are whole classes of networks we shoould refuse to model because it's a bit inconvenient re tag format
[13:39] <dimitern> I don't believe we should model all possible cases like this
[13:40] <dimitern> what's the use of having enclaves of machines like that in the same env?
[13:40] <dooferlad> dimitern, fwereade_, TheMue: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/drawings/d/1UAZEYOi1LcBgDyokAdlJAFQuDxpOL98DeHpFT-q1HbU/edit?usp=sharing
[13:40] <dooferlad> I think this is easier with diagrams!
[13:41] <fwereade_> dooferlad, good diagram, thank you
[13:41] <TheMue> dimitern: one enclave for one business service backend, one for another, and a public one as a frontend and routing between them (naive idea)
[13:41] <dimitern> dooferlad, great, thanks
[13:41] <fwereade_> dimitern, I reject the notion that we should bake the impossibility of encoding that topology into juju forever
[13:41] <fwereade_> dimitern, not doig it today is one thinng
[13:41] * dimitern needs to think about this
[13:41] <fwereade_> dimitern, picking a tag format that renders it really damn hard to fix is another
[13:42] <TheMue> dooferlad: yeah, good one
[13:42] <dimitern> fwereade_, I totally get your point and agree the described scenario is not well modeled with what i'm suggesting
[13:42] <fwereade_> dimitern, "address-<space>-<value>" might address my concerns but I'm still a bit iffy there too
[13:42] <dimitern> fwereade_, but I seem to recall in the model somewhere we said we won't allow that
[13:43] <fwereade_> dimitern, yeah
[13:43] <fwereade_> dimitern, I agree that it's fine not to do that yet
[13:44] <TheMue> fwereade_: dimitern: we always used meaningless IDs, like UUIDs, to make a record unique while the rest of the data can be double. if that's not wanted additional constraints help.
[13:45] <fwereade_> dimitern, but picking a tag format that makes it harder to do in the future is a decision that's harder to undo than just "let's not do it this week/cycle/year"
[13:45] <TheMue> fwereade_: to the ID of an IP address simply should be a UUID, the tag "ipaddress-<id>"
[13:45] <dimitern> fwereade_, agreed
[13:45] <fwereade_> TheMue, yeah, I'm totally comfortable with (not to mention keen on) opaque primary keys
[13:45] <TheMue> fwereade_: dimitern: so it doesn't care how we model networks and it is still identifyable
[13:46] <dimitern> fwereade_, TheMue, let's go with "ipaddress-<space>-<value>" the "space" part can be safely hardcoded to "default" I think
[13:46] <dimitern> at least initially
[13:47] <mup> Bug #1466087 opened: TestAllInstances fails <ci> <test-failure> <juju-core:Incomplete> <juju-core devices-api-maas:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1466087>
[13:48] <natefinch> I don't know what we're talking about, but I'm always +1 on UUID for primary IDs over some concatenated mess.
[13:48] <dimitern> dooferlad, have a look at http://reports.vapour.ws/releases/2784/job/run-unit-tests-precise-amd64/attempt/2970 btw - it seems devices-api-maas needs your fixes too
[13:48] <fwereade_> dimitern, yeah, I think we do need a bit more justification for address-<space>-<value>
[13:49] <fwereade_> dimitern, what are the advantages over address<opaque>?
[13:49] <dimitern> fwereade_, 1) a lot easier to implement, 2) more readable, 3) just as unique .. come to mind
[13:49] <TheMue> fwereade_: IMHO only better human readable, but that's all
[13:50] <TheMue> dimitern: why easier to implement?
[13:50] <dimitern> TheMue, also much easier to follow in the logs when debugging
[13:50] <natefinch> if you have to read IDs, you're doing something wrong
[13:50] <TheMue> hehe
[13:50] <fwereade_> natefinch, +1
[13:51] <TheMue> dimitern: I would log myAddress.String() giving a good readable string representation of my address
[13:51] <dimitern> TheMue, because what fwereade_ is suggesting means 1) add the hashed compound id to ipaddressesDoc, 2) make sure we set and update it as needed, 3) upgrade step to set it on existing ipaddressDocs
[13:52] <dimitern> I'm very good at following logs like that and figuring out what happened :P
[13:52] <TheMue> dimitern: sure, we act on existing data.
[13:53] <dimitern> and almost forgot - 4) a lot shorted in 90% of the cases for both IPv4 and IPv6 values
[13:53] <dimitern> shorter
[13:54] * dimitern really needs to go now, might be back later
[13:55] * TheMue has to think about it too, but still feels a bit better with UUIDs
[13:56] <fwereade_> dimitern, you don't *have* to use a uuid, remember
[13:56] <fwereade_> dimitern, other formats can be both unique and opaque
[13:59] <mup> Bug #1466100 opened: TestManageEnvironServesAPI fails <ci> <intermittent-failure> <test-failure> <juju-core:Incomplete> <juju-core db-log:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1466100>
[14:03] <TheMue> fwereade_: and even in full printed form (not as [16]byte) a UUID has 36 bytes. need a lot of addresses then to make a database sweat.
[14:05] * TheMue is afk to swap location, bbiab
[14:05] <fwereade_> TheMue, indeed, "uuids are too big" is not generally an argument that impresses me much :)
[14:26] <alexisb> dooferlad, I will be a few minutes late
[14:26] <alexisb> but I will be there
[14:29] <natefinch> dpb1: we can't repro your bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1465307 have you found a way to reproduce it?
[14:29] <mup> Bug #1465307: 1.24.0: Lots of "agent is lost, sorry!" messages <blocker> <landscape> <regression> <juju-core:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1465307>
[14:30] <dpb1> natefinch: sorry, I worked on it in the afternoon that day and I got close but not there. I'm being pulled on something else. I'll circle back as soon as I can. For now, I totally understand the "incomplete" status on there. thanks.
[14:36] <natefinch> dpb1: cool, just wanted to make sure we were on the same page.
[14:37] <natefinch> ericsnow: I was wrong about that rsyslog bug, I do understand why it happened, though not precisely the best way to fix it
[14:37] <ericsnow> natefinch: k
[14:37] <natefinch> ericsnow: it was my fault - I changed where the rsysog certificate is (as stated by Menno in the comments of the bug).
[14:37] <ericsnow> natefinch: is it the way menn0 described it
[14:37] <natefinch> yep
[14:37] <ericsnow> natefinch: k
[14:37] <ericsnow> natefinch: I'll look into the fix
[14:38] <katco> natefinch: moving card for bug 1465307 to "DONE"
[14:38] <mup> Bug #1465307: 1.24.0: Lots of "agent is lost, sorry!" messages <blocker> <landscape> <regression> <juju-core:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1465307>
[14:38] <natefinch> katco: huzzah
[14:38] <katco> natefinch: ty for following up
[14:42] <natefinch> katco: can you bring up the "process for proposing a new repo in github.com/juju/" in the leads meeting tonight? I'm hoping we can just post the process on a page on the wiki.
[14:43] <katco> natefinch: sure thing
[14:43] <natefinch> katco: thanks
[14:47] <katco> gsamfira: hey, were you looking at bug 1464470?
[14:47] <mup> Bug #1464470: A subordinate charm hook scheduled to run(but waiting for the principal charm hook to release the lock) goes to an error state after the principal charm hook triggers a reboot. <1.24> <1.25> <hooks> <juju> <reboot> <regression> <subordinate> <windows> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core
[14:47] <mup> 1.24:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464470>
[14:48] <ericsnow> natefinch: do you have the revision of the change you made for the location of the certificate?
[14:57] <natefinch> ericsnow: I can find it
[14:58] <ericsnow> natefinch: thanks
[14:58] <natefinch> ericsnow: https://github.com/juju/juju/commit/3a6ebe0b6a24a8c5f80a7dbcb78937755540839e
[15:13] <jw4> ericsnow: were you thinking github PR or reviewboard link?
[15:14] <ericsnow> jw4: either is fine, though I think putting the RB link also more clearly sends the message that the patch was reviewed :)
[15:14] <jw4> ericsnow: cool :)
[15:17] <natefinch> ericsnow: got a minute to talk about the plugin package?
[15:17] <ericsnow> natefinch: sure
[15:17] <ericsnow> natefinch: moonstone?
[15:17] <natefinch> ericsnow: ya
[15:19] <voidspace> dimitern: ping
[15:19] <voidspace> dimitern: currently, the network interface information returned by PrepareContainerInterfaceInfo populates MACAddress with the NIC of the interface it allocated the address on
[15:19] <voidspace> dimitern: i.e. the host NIC MAC
[15:19] <voidspace> dimitern: so my change is a semantic change here.
[15:20] <voidspace> dimitern: as the method is documented to return "information for configuring networking on a container" I think that's ok
[15:20] <voidspace> dimitern: we always overwrite the MAC address anyway
[15:20] <voidspace> dimitern: but it might be slightly surprising to someone reading the code
[15:21] <dooferlad> TheMue/voidspace: could you take a quick look at this fix: https://github.com/dooferlad/juju/commit/aeb9acf964cbdb04abd957f49e2303a65cc5d240
[15:21] <dooferlad> The rest of the change (http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1941) has got a ship-it, but this caused the test bot to fail
[15:21] <voidspace> dooferlad: looking
[15:21] <voidspace> dooferlad: what was the failure?
[15:22] <dooferlad> The test is looking for a particular config change. The problem is the initial set up can generate a change on the channel it is watching.
[15:22] <voidspace> dooferlad: is this because the code is running in a goroutine and you don't want to use an assert?
[15:22] <dooferlad> no, an assert would be fine
[15:23] <voidspace> ah ok
[15:23] <voidspace> dooferlad: but you need to repeat the read on cfgObserver
[15:23] <voidspace> dooferlad: looks good to me
[15:24] <dooferlad> voidspace: yea, just need to keep reading cfgObserver until the expected change arrives, or time out.
[15:24] <voidspace> yep, LGTM
[15:24] <dooferlad> voidspace: thanks. Will push the go button again.
[15:24] <dooferlad> voidspace: and port to trunk.
[15:49] <dooferlad> voidspace: could you take a look at that same change, just this time is is a review for trunk. No changes vs the other branch.
[15:49] <dooferlad> http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1958/
[15:50] <dooferlad> TheMue: since voidspace is offline, could you take a look ^^
[15:50] <voidspace> dooferlad: LGTM
[15:51] <dooferlad> voidspace: how I love IRC clients. You are apparently both offline and online.
[15:54] <dooferlad> voidspace: once that lands you probably want the changes in devices-api-maas. Hopefully it will result in less $$stupidtests$$
[15:54] <dooferlad> voidspace: yell if you want a hand
[15:59] <voidspace> dooferlad: cool, thanks
[16:00] <voidspace> dooferlad: heh, my IP address changed just at that instance
[16:00] <voidspace> dooferlad: so I was briefly offline and reconnected
[16:47] <mup> Bug #1466152 opened: [RFE] log locks and other relevant information when jujud receives SIGUSR1 <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1466152>
[17:26] <rogpeppe1> natefinch: just took a look at deputy. nice idea. you should probably document that Timeout isn't compatible with StdoutPipe or StdinPipe
[17:27] <natefinch> rogpeppe1: ahh yeah good point
[17:29] <natefinch> rogpeppe1: ironically, we're probably not going to be using it for what I wrote it for, but I figured we run enough executables, we might want a consistent way to give them a timeout.... and get better errors than we usually get running commands (exit code 1 or whatever it is)
[17:29] <rogpeppe1> natefinch: yeah, i think it's a reasonable idea
[17:30] <natefinch> rogpeppe1: I'm sure it needs some work, it's just an initial draft.
[17:32] <rogpeppe1> natefinch: tbh i'm not that keen on the Option thing. it's cute, but i'd actually prefer to see an explicit options struct
[17:34] <rogpeppe1> natefinch: also, i think you've got a potential race condition
[17:35] <rogpeppe1> natefinch: not sure of a decent way to work around it though
[17:36] <rogpeppe1> natefinch: i think you probably need to allow only one of either stderr or stdout as error
[17:40] <natefinch> rogpeppe1: I'd thought about what happens if you use both stderr and stdout as errors.... allowing only one is probably better
[17:40] <natefinch> rogpeppe1: and you may be right about the option thing.
[17:47] <mup> Bug #1466167 opened: debug-hooks no longer works with 1.24-beta6 <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1466167>
[18:36] <katco> wwitzel3: ericsnow: natefinch: do you guys need anything?
[18:37] <ericsnow> katco: I'm good for now
[18:42] <natefinch> ericsnow: nope, I'm good
[18:49] <wwitzel3> katco: a new nasal passage
[18:50] <katco> wwitzel3: hm.
[18:50] <katco> wwitzel3: i have a hammer, a phillips screw driver, and a lawyer's phone number.
[18:51] <wwitzel3> katco: no duct tape? sounds sketchy
[18:52] <katco> wwitzel3: i assure you, the screw driver is the highest quality stainless steel
[18:52] <katco> wwitzel3: it shouldn't stain my screwdriver at all
[18:54] <wwitzel3> well in that case ...
[19:02] <perrito666> wwitzel3: runny nose?
[21:46] <katco> anastasiamac: ping
[22:31] * perrito666 wonders what he did this time to have reviewboard ignore him
[22:39] <anastasiamac> katco: pong?
[22:39] <katco> anastasiamac: hey got time for a chat?
[22:40] <anastasiamac> katco: sure. tanzanite?
[22:40] <katco> anastasiamac: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/moonstone?authuser=1
[22:40] <katco> anastasiamac: don't have the link for tanzanite anymore =/
[22:40] <anastasiamac> omw
[22:40] <perrito666> katco: that is cruel
[22:48] <alexisb> katco, word on the street is anastasiamac and wallyworld will be looking for tanzanite when they are next in Capetown SA
[22:48] <alexisb> katco, you will have to one up them by getting moonstone in Missouri
[22:50] <perrito666> alexisb: you know, there are easier way to do things :p http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xtanzanite.TRS0&_nkw=tanzanite&_sacat=0
[22:52] <katco> alexisb: lol i'll have to do that :)
[22:52] <katco> alexisb: all jokes aside, i find moonstones to be prettier than tanzanite :)
[22:53] <anastasiamac> alexisb: wallyworld will be looking for tanzanite in SA. anastasiamac will twidlling her thumbs in Aus :D
[22:53] <anastasiamac> katco: combine the two and u'll get an even better value :D
[22:54] <katco> anastasiamac: haha :D
[22:54] <wallyworld> ebay? you'll end up buying purple glass
[22:54] <wallyworld> a jeweller friend of mine has so many customers who bring in rings bought off ebay that are just straight out fakes
[22:55] <perrito666> wallyworld: better? http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&field-keywords=tanzanite&index=blended&link_code=qs&tag=wwwcanoniccom-20
[22:55] <wallyworld> yes :-)
[22:56] <perrito666> ow, interesting, I had not noticed the tag= part
[22:57] <wallyworld> did you use a scope?
[22:57] <perrito666> wallyworld: nope, my browser amaz<tab>
[22:58] <perrito666> my browser being chrome
[22:59] <perrito666> that quick search might be rigged ot do the same
[23:30] <anastasiamac> alexisb: running a bit late...will ping after standup..
[23:30] <alexisb> anastasiamac, ack
[23:33] <anastasiamac> alexisb: m grabbing a drink (& coffeeeee) and will b there! tyvm for waiting :D
[23:55] <thumper> wallyworld: do you have a few minutes to talk about leases?
[23:57] <thumper> axw: you around?
[23:59] <wallyworld> thumper: give me 5?
[23:59] <thumper> ack
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ubuntu-chat
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| 2015-06-17T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"TheMue",
"alexisb",
"anastasiamac",
"axw",
"davecheney",
"dimitern",
"dooferlad",
"dpb1",
"ericsnow",
"fwereade_",
"jam",
"jw4",
"katco",
"lazyPower",
"mup",
"mwhudson",
"natefinch",
"perrito666",
"rogpeppe1",
"thumper",
"voidspace",
"waigani",
"wallyworld",
"wwitzel3"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/17/%23juju-dev.txt",
"channel": "#juju-dev"
}
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2015-06-17-#ubuntu-au
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[04:11] <havingabadday> hi
[04:11] <blahdeblah> hi havingabadday - hope it's not today!
[04:11] <havingabadday> ...it is.
[04:12] <havingabadday> thats why im here
[04:12] <havingabadday> sorry, i'll type out and see if anyone has any idea what to do.
[04:15] <havingabadday> any advice on someone on X99 running 2 ssd's (sda= 8.1 windows sdb=15.04 ubuntu), new to the, 'new' ubuntu installer, i was expecting to get the option to not install grub... but that never showed..
[04:15] <blahdeblah> havingabadday: That's a good start; you might find #ubuntu better if you don't get an answer here quickly - it's a pretty quiet channel
[04:15] <havingabadday> ok
[04:17] <havingabadday> windows bluescreens no matter how i boot into it... not sure what grub did to the begining of the drive.. anyway another question, if i can't get this fixed by tonight should i start with the rum or the whisky..
[04:18] <blahdeblah> That question is definitely beyond my Windows and alcohol expertise, I'm afraid. :-)
[04:18] <havingabadday> mine too. thanks. have a better day than me.
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2024-05-13T22:11:34.474499
| 2015-06-17T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"blahdeblah",
"havingabadday"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/17/%23ubuntu-au.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-au"
}
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