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Right? Now tell me what to do, tell me what to do. Attention.
You see! How am I to be attentive? Live in the present.
How am I to live in the present when my whole past is burdening me? Be aware of the process that is taking place. Be aware of the present.
Be aware of the process that is taking place. Be aware of the process that is taking place. All right.
Which means what? Aware that the past is interfering and therefore preventing the brain to learn. Right?
Be aware of this the past interfering and stopping learning. Right? Be aware of this.
Go slowly sir. Be aware of this movement. Are you aware of it as we are talking?
Then if you are aware of it, of this movement as we are talking, what takes place? Don't guess! Don't say 'should be', 'should not be' - that has no meaning.
What is actually taking place when you are aware of this movement, which is the past interfering with the present and therefore preventing learning in the sense we are using that word, when you are aware of this whole process going on what takes place then? You see yourself as the effect of the past. You see yourself as the effect of the past.
We are, we see that, that's a fact. We have said what is the outcome, what happens when you are aware that you are the effect of the past and that effect is preventing you from learning in the present? Now when you are aware of this movement, what takes place?
What actually takes place? Don't guess. What takes place in you, when you are aware of this process?
The movement stops. There is no more thought. There is no more thought.
Yes sir? There is fear. There is fear.
One says there is no more thought, one says there is silence, another says there is fear. Just a minute sir. Yes sir?
There seems to be nothing but the present. You see there is nothing but the present. Now which of these statements is true?
Now wait. Which of these statements is true? Silence, cessation of thought, one lives in the present - what is the truth of it?
We are confused. That's right sir. We are confused.
Now look. What madam? I am afraid.
You are afraid. You are aware. You learn.
You learn. I give it up! I feel that there is a contradiction which has to be destroyed by direct action.
I feel there is a contradiction which has to be destroyed by direct action. Look sirs, don't come to any conclusion, I beg of you, because conclusions will prevent you from learning. And if you say direct action must happen, that's a conclusion.
We are learning. So, look! I see that I am the result, I am the effect of the past, the past may be yesterday or the past second.
That has left a mark as knowledge, that knowledge which is the past is preventing learning in the present - it's a momentum, this is happening all the time. Now when I am aware of it, this movement, aware of it, what takes place? (Inaudible) No, no, no.
What takes place, sir? (Inaudible) You see you are not doing it. You are just guessing.
And hoping some one statement will be right. I don't want to think that way, I want to find out, I don't want your conclusions. If I accept your conclusions you will be the new philosopher.
I don't want any new philosophers! I want to learn, therefore I have to see what actually takes place, actually, when the brain is aware of this movement. Can the brain be aware of this movement?
You are following? Or is it frightened to be aware of something new? The movement stops.
The movement stops. Then what? Have I learnt?
Have I learnt? Is there a learning? How extraordinary!
If I am quiet enough I think I can see what I perceive and what comes out from my own. Yes sir. Look, please do observe this.
I want to learn about this movement - learn - and I say now to learn I must have curiosity. Then if my curiosity is merely a conclusion, to come to a conclusion my curiosity stops. So there must be curiosity - right?
- to learn. There must be passion to learn - right - and there must be energy to learn. Without this I can't learn.
Right? If I have fear I have no passion. So I have to leave that alone and say, 'Why am I frightened?'.
Why am I frightened to learn something about something that may be new? Why am I frightened? So I have to investigate fear.
You are following? Now I have left the momentum of this past and I have now to learn about fear. Right?
Are you following all this? Now why am I frightened? We are afraid to lose the image of ourselves.
We are afraid to lose the image of ourselves - the image which I have built about myself as being full of knowledge, a dead entity. No, sir. I am frightened.
Don't give me the explanations. I realise I am frightened - why? Is it because I see that I am dead?
Because I am living in the past and I don't know what it means to observe and learn in the present, therefore it is something totally new. Right? And I am frightened to do anything new.
Which means what? That my brain and my mind have followed the old pattern, the old method, the old way of thinking, living, working. So anything new I am frightened.
Right? And to learn, the mind must be free from the past - we have established that as the truth. Now, look what has happened.
I have established the fact as truth, that there is no learning if the past interferes - that is a fact. And also I realise I am frightened. So there is the contradiction between the realisation of the fact that to learn my mind must be free of the past, and at the same time I am frightened.
So there is a duality in I see and I am afraid to see. Right? Are we always afraid to see new things?
Are we afraid to see new things? Aren't we? Aren't we afraid to change?
The new thing is the unknown. We are afraid of the unknown. The new thing is the unknown and so we cling to the old.
And clinging to the old will inevitably breed fear because life is changing, there is social upheavals, there is rioting going on, there are wars. So fear is there. Now how am I to learn about fear?
You understand? We have moved away from learning about the other movement. We want to learn about the movement of fear.
Right? Now, what is the movement of fear? Are you aware that you are afraid?
Are you aware that you have fears? Not always. Now, not always.
Do you know now, are you aware now of your fears? You can resuscitate them, you can bring them out and say, 'Well, I am afraid of what people might say about me' - or something or other. So are you aware that you are frightened?
That you have fear? Are you? About death, about losing money, about losing your wife, or God knows what!
Are you aware of those fears? Physical fears that you might have pain tomorrow and so on. If you are aware of it what is the movement in it?
You follow? What takes place? What takes place when you are aware that you are afraid?
You are aware when you become aware that you are frightened, you try to get rid of it. Now watch it. When you try to get rid of it, what takes place?
You repress it. Either you repress it, or escape from it, or - not or - and there is a conflict between wanting to get rid of it and fear - isn't there? So there is either repression, escape and in trying to get rid of it there is conflict, which only increases fear.
Right? (Noise of band playing). I wonder why bands were invented - don't you?
You say - (noise of dog barking - laughter). Let no other dog bark! You say the brain itself is so frightened to let go, and the brain itself is the cause of fear.
Are you trying to say that? Now you see, look sir, I want to find out, I want to learn about fear, learn. That means I must be curious, I must be passionate.
I must be curious first and I cannot be curious if I have a conclusion. Right? So I have to learn - wait, wait a bit, madame - I have to learn.
I have to learn about fear. I am going to learn - watch it, sir, please do listen, I am going to learn, which means I mustn't be distracted by running away from it. I mustn't - there mustn't be a movement of repression, which means again a distraction from fear.
There mustn't be the feeling I must get rid of it. Right? If I have these feelings I cannot learn.
Now, have I these feelings? Escape, trying to get rid of it, trying to suppress it and so on - have I these feelings when I see there is fear? I am learning, I am not saying you shouldn't have these feelings, they are there.
Am I aware of these feelings? If I am aware of these feelings what shall I do? I want to escape.
My fear is so strong, I want to run away from it. And the very movement away from it breeds more fear. You are following all this?
Do I see the truth and the fact that moving away from the fear increases fear? Therefore there is no movement away from it. Right?
Yes sir? I don't understand it, because I feel that if I have a fear and I move away from it, I move towards something that is going to end that fear. No.
Towards something that will see me through it. I don't understand, the questioner says, that when I move away from fear, in that movement there is a desire to escape from it, suppress it, avoid it and therefore increases fear. I don't understand that at all - he says.
But that is a fact, isn't it? I am afraid - what? - I am afraid - I don't know what, I am not afraid, but let's say - but what am I afraid of - what are you afraid of?
Money You are afraid of losing money, losing money, not money. The more the merrier! But you are afraid of losing it.
Right? Now there is a fear of it, therefore what do you do? You make quite sure that your money is well placed.
Right? But the fear continues. It may not be in the changing world, they might be throwing bombs, the bank will go up and so on and so on.
So there is fear even though you have plenty of money there is always this fear. Right? Now running away from that fear doesn't solve it.
Right sir? Suppressing, saying I won't think about it. But the moment you say 'I will not think about it' the next second is thinking about it.
Right? So running away from it, suppressing it, avoiding it, doing anything about it, continues fear. Right?
That is a fact. Now we have established two facts. That to learn there must be curiosity, to learn there must be no pressure of the past.
And to learn about fear there must be no running away from fear. That's a fact. That's the truth.
Therefore you don't run away. Right? Now when I don't run away from it what takes place?
I stop being identified with it. I stop being identified with the fear. Is that what is learning?
You have stopped. I don't know what you mean. Therefore you have to learn.
Stopping is not learning. Because you have a desire you mustn't have fear, you want to escape from it. Just see the subtlety of it.
I am afraid and I want to learn about it. I don't know what's going to happen. You follow?
I want to learn the movement of fear. So what takes place? I am not running away, I am not suppressing, I am not avoiding it and I want to learn about it.
I think about how to get rid of it. Ah, you want to get rid of it! If you want to get rid of it - I have just explained - who is the person who is going to get rid of it, and if you want to get rid of it, which means you resist it, and therefore fear increases.
If you don't see the fact of that I am sorry I can't help you. Accept fear. I don't accept fear - who is the entity that is accepting fear?
I accept there is no fear. I have just said sir, you don't listen. To escape from it, to avoid it, to pick up a novel and read what other people are doing, look at the television, go to the temple, church, is still avoidance of fear, and any avoidance of fear only increases and strengthens fear.
That is a fact. Now after establishing that fact I won't run away. I won't suppress - therefore what takes place when there is an awareness of fear?
I am learning. You follow? Now what takes place?
Not running away. Understanding of the process of fear. We are doing that.
I am understanding the process, I am watching it, I am learning it. What takes place? I am afraid and I am not running away from it - what takes place?
You are face to face with fear. You are face to face with fear. What takes place then?
(Several inaudible comments) Don't you ask this question? Please just listen to me for two minutes. I am not running away.
I am not suppressing, I am not avoiding, I am not resisting it. There it is. Now, I am watching it.
Right? The natural question out of that who is watching it? Isn't it?
Who is watching this fear? Look, don't guess, please don't guess. When you say, I am watching fear, learning about fear, who is the entity who is watching it?
Fear itself. Is fear itself watching itself? Please don't guess.
Don't come to any conclusion. Find out. The mind isn't escaping from fear, not building a wall against fear through courage - you know, all the rest of it.
What takes place when I watch? I ask myself naturally, who is watching? Right?
Who is watching the thing called fear? Don't answer me please. I have raised the question, not you.
Who is watching? Another fragment of me? Listen sir, find out who is watching this fear.
Watching cannot be the result of the past, it must be fresh. Sir, I am not talking about whether the watching is the past or this, you are watching. I am aware of fear.