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and maybe it 's not the best way to do it. But if he has some students that want to study that then they should sort of get to know the people and attend those meetings ,
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Mm - hmm.
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and get the notes from the note - taker or something.
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Right.
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Hmm.
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Well , I think that 's a little bit of a problem. Their sort of note - taking application stuff they 've been doing for the last couple of years , and I don't think anyone is still working on it.
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Yeah.
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I think they 're done. Um , so I 'm not sure that they have anyone currently working on notes. So what we 'd have to interest someone in is the combination of note and speech.
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Mm - hmm.
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And so the question is " is there such a person ? " And I think right now , the answer is " no ".
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Well
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I 've b been thinking
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We 'll just have to see.
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I 've been thinking about it a little bit here about the uh , th this , e um I think that the now I 'm thinking that the summary a summary , uh , is actually a reasonable , uh , bootstrap into this into what we 'd like to get at. It 's it 's not ideal , but we you know , we we have to get started someplace. So I was I was just thinking about , um , suppose we wanted to get w We have this collection of meeting. We have five hours of stuff. Uh , we get that transcribed. So now we have five hours of meetings and , uh , you ask me , uh , uh , " Morgan , what d you know , what kind of questions do you want to ask ? " Uh , I wouldn't have any idea what kind of questions I want to ask. I 'd have to get started someplace. So in fact if I looked at summary of it , I 'd go " oh , yeah , I was in that meeting , I remember that , um , what was the part that " And and th I think that might then help me to think of things even things that aren't listed in the summary , but just as a as a as a refresh of what the general thing was going on in the meeting.
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Mm - hmm.
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I think it serves two purpo purposes. One , as sort of a refresh to help bootstrap queries ,
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Mm - hmm. Yeah.
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but also , I mean , maybe we do want to generate summaries. And then it 's you know , it 's kind of a key.
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Well , yeah. That 's true too.
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Hmm.
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Yeah , absolutely. Then you want to have it.
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Uh
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So how does the summary get generated ?
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Well , i i ?
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I 'm not against the idea of a summary ,
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By hand.
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but I wanted to think carefully about who 's generating it
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Or , d o
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and how because the summary will drive the queries.
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What I I think , you know , in most meetings ,
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So
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this one being different , but in most meetings that I attend , there 's somebody t explicitly taking notes , frequently on a laptop Um , you can just make it be on a laptop ,
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Mm - hmm.
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so then yo you 're dealing with ASCII and not somebody you don't have to go through handwriting recognition. Um , and then they post - edit it into , uh , a summary and they email it out for minutes. I mean , that happens in most meetings.
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I I I think that , um , there 's we 're using " summary " in two different ways. So what you just described I would describe as " minutes ".
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Minutes.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And what I originally thought was , um , if you asked someone " what was the meeting about ? "
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OK.
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Hmm.
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And then they would say " well , we talked about this and then we talked about that , and so - and - so talked about " And then you 'd have , like I e My thought was to have multiple people summarize it , on recording rather than writing because writing takes time and you get irrelevant other things that u take time , that
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Mm - hmm.
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Whereas if you just say it immediately after the meeting , you know , a two - minute summary of what the meeting was about , I think you would get , uh , with mult See , I I also worry about having a single note - taker because that 's just one person 's perception. And , um , you know , it it 's releva it 's relative to what you 're focus was on that meeting ,
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Mm - hmm.
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and and people have different major topics that they 're interested in.
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So , my proposal would be that it may be worth considering both of those types , you know , the note - taking and a spontaneous oral summary afterwards ,
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OK.
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Yeah.
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no longer than two minutes ,
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Adam , you can
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from multiple people.
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you can correct me on this ,
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Yeah.
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but but , uh , my impression was that , uh , pretty much , uh , true that the meetings here , nobody sits with a w uh , with a laptop
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Never.
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and
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Never. I 've never seen it at ICSI. Does anyone ?
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Dan ?
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I mean , Dan is the one who who most frequently would take notes ,
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Yeah.
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and
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I 've d When we when we have other meetings. When I have meetings on the European projects , we have someone taking notes.
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Oh , really ?
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Yeah , but those are bigger deal things.
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In fact , I often do it.
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Right ? Where you 've got fifteen peo
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Yeah.
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I mean , most th this is one of the larger meetings. Most of the meetings we have are four or five people
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That 's true are four or five people.
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Yeah.
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and you 're not you don't have somebody sitting and taking minutes for it.
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Right.
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You just get together and talk about where you are.
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So , I think it depends on whether it 's a business meeting or a technical discussion.
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Culture.
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Yeah.
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And I agree ,
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Yeah.
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technical discussions you don't usually have somebody taking notes.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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The IRAM meeting , they they take notes every
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Do they ?
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There 's uh a person with a laptop at each meeting.
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How many people are those meetings ?
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There are more. I mean , there are ten - ish.
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Yeah.
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Y you should also have a record of what 's on the board.
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Yeah.
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They 're very sparse.
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I mean , I find it very hard to reconstruct what 's going on. I I don't know how
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Yeah. This is something early in the project we talked a lot about.
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I don't know how , but for instance , I mean , the outline is sort of up here and that 's what people are seeing. And if you have a Or you shou could tell people not to to use the boards. But there 's sort of this missing information otherwise.
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We sh we should
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I agree , but but you you just you g end up with video ,
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I agree.
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Well , I don't know.
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and and instrumented rooms. And that 's a different project , I think.
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f u I think for this data capture , it would be nice to have a digital camera
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