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Well , u uh , IBM was going to. Um
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Oh , OK.
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Oh.
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and I imagine they still plan to but but , you know , I haven't spoken with them about that recently.
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OK.
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Uh - huh.
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Well , uh , my suggestion now is is on all of these things to , uh , contact Brian.
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OK. I 'll do that.
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Yeah.
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This is wonderful to have a direct contact like that.
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Yeah.
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uh Well , th lemme ask you this.
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Yeah.
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It occurs to me one of my transcribers t told me today that she 'll be finished with one meeting , um , by
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Mm - hmm.
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well , she said tomorrow but then she said you know , but the , you know let 's let 's just , uh , say
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Mm - hmm.
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maybe the day after just to be s on the safe side. I could send Brian the , um the transcript. I know these are er , uh , I could send him that if it would be possible , or a good idea or not , to try to do a s forced alignment on what we 're on the way we 're encoding overlaps now.
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Well , just talk to him about it.
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Yep.
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Good.
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I mean , you know , basically he 's he just studies , he 's a colleague , a friend , and ,
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Yeah !
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uh , they and and , you know , the the organization always did wanna help us.
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Super. Super.
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It was just a question of getting , you know , the right people connected in , who had the time.
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Right.
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Yeah , yeah.
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So , um , eh
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Is he on the mailing list ? The Meeting Recorder mailing li ?
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Oh !
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We should add him.
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Yeah. I I I don't know for sure.
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Yeah.
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Did something happen , Morgan , that he got put on this , or was he already on it ,
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Add him.
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or ?
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No , I , eh , eh , p It it oc I h it 's Yeah , something happened. I don't know what.
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He asked for more work.
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Huh.
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But he 's on it now.
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That would be like that 'd be like him. He 's great.
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Right. So , uh , where are we ? Maybe , uh , uh , brief Well , let 's why don't we talk about microphone issues ?
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Yeah. That 'd be great.
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That was that was a
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Um , so one thing is that I did look on Sony 's for a replacement for the mikes for the head m head - worn ones cuz they 're so uncomfortable. But I think I need someone who knows more about mikes than I do , because I couldn't find a single other model that seemed like it would fit the connector , which seems really unlikely to me. Does anyone , like , know stores or know about mikes who who would know the right questions to ask ?
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Oh , I probably would. I mean , my knowledge is twenty years out of date but some of it 's still the same.
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Mm - hmm.
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So Uh , so maybe we c we can take a look at that.
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You couldn't you couldn't find the right connector to go into these things ?
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Yep. When I looked , i they listed one microphone and that 's it
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Huh !
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as having that type of connector. But my guess is that Sony maybe uses a different number for their connector than everyone else does. And and so
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Mm - hmm. Well , let 's look at it together
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it seems it seems really unlikely to me that there 's only one.
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and
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And there 's no adaptor for it ?
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Yeah.
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Seems like there 'd be a OK.
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As I said , who knows ?
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Mm - hmm.
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Who who are we buying these from ?
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Um ,
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That 'd be
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I have it downstairs. I don't remember off the top of my head.
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Yeah. OK. Yeah. We we can try and look at that together.
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And then , uh just in terms of how you wear them I mean , I had thought about this before. I mean , when when when you use a product like DragonDictate , they have a very extensive description about how to wear the microphone and so on.
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Oh.
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But I felt that in a real situation we were very seldom gonna get people to really do it and maybe it wasn't worth concentrating on. But
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Well , I think that that 's that 's a good back - off position. That 's what I was saying earlier , th that , you know , we are gonna get some recordings that are imperfect and , hey , that 's life. But I I think that it it doesn't hurt , uh , the naturalness of the situation to try to have people wear the microphones properly , if possible ,
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Mm - hmm.
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because , um , the natural situation is really what we have with the microphones on the table.
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Oh. That 's true.
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I mean , I think , you know , in the target applications that we 're talking about , people aren't gonna be wearing head - mounted mikes anyway.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So this is just for u these head - mounted mikes are just for use with research.
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Mm - hmm.
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Yeah.
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And , uh , it 's gonna make You know , if if An - Andreas plays around with language modeling , he 's not gonna be m wanna be messed up by people breathing into the microphone.
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Right.
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So it 's it 's , uh , uh
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Well , I 'll dig through the documentation to DragonDictate and ste s see if they still have the little form.
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But it does happen.
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Yeah.
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Right ? I mean , and any
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It 's interesting , uh , I talked to some IBM guys , uh , last January , I think , I was there. And so people who were working on the on their ViaVoice dictation product.
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Yeah.
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And they said , uh , the breathing is really a a terrible problem for them , to to not recognize breathing as speech.
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Wow.
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So , anything to reduce breathing is is is a good thing.
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Yeah.
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Well , that 's the It seemed to me when I was using Dragon that it was really microphone placement helped an in , uh an enormous amount.
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Mm - hmm.
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So you want it enough to the side so that when you exhale through your nose , it doesn't the wind doesn't hit the mike.
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Right. Mm - hmm.
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And then , uh Everyone 's adjusting their microphones , of course. And then just close enough so that you get good volume. So you know , wearing it right about here seems to be about the right way to do it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Is Uh - huh.
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