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I remember when I was when I I I I used , uh , um , a prominent laboratory 's , uh , uh , speech recognizer about , uh This was , boy , this was a while ago , this was about twelve twelve years ago or something. And , um , they were they were perturbed with me because I was breathing in instead of breathing out. And they had models for they they had Markov models for br breathing out but they didn't have them for breathing in.
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Yeah.
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Uh
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That 's interesting. Well , what I wondered is whether it 's possible to have to maybe use the display at the beginning
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Yeah.
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to be able to to judge how how correctly I mean , have someone do some routine whatever , and and then see if when they 're breathing it 's showing.
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I mean , when when it 's on , you can see it.
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I don't know if the if it 's
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You can definitely see it.
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Can you see the breathing ?
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Absolutely.
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Cuz I
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Absolutely.
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Oh.
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Yeah.
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And so , you know , I 've I 've sat here and watched sometimes the breathing ,
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and the bar going up and down , and I 'm thinking , I could say something , but
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I mean , I think
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I don't want to make people self - conscious. Stop breathing !
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It it 's going to be imperfect.
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Yeah. Uh - huh.
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You 're not gonna get it perfect. And you can do some , uh , you know , first - order thing about it , which is to have people move it , uh , uh , a away from being just directly in front of the middle
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Yeah.
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Good.
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but not too far away.
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Yeah , i
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And then , you know , I think there 's not much Because you can't al you know , interfere w you can't fine tune the meeting that much , I think.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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It 's sort of
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That 's true. It just seems like i if something l simple like that can be tweaked and the quality goes , you know , uh , dramatically up , then it might be worth doing.
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Yep. And then also the position of the mike also. If it 's more directly , you 'll get better volume. So so , like , yours is pretty far down below your mouth. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But Mm - hmm. My my feedback from the transcribers is he is always close to crystal clear and and just fan fantastic to
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Yeah.
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Mmm , yeah.
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Mm - hmm.
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I don't know why that is.
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Well , I mean , you Yeah , of course. You 're you 're also uh , your volume is is greater. But but still , I mean , they they say
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I 've been eating a lot.
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I it makes their their job extremely easy.
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Uh.
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Yeah.
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And then there 's mass.
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Mm - hmm.
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Anyway.
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I could say something about about the Well , I don't know what you wanna do. Yeah.
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About what ?
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About the transcribers or anything or ? I don't know.
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Well , the other
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But , uh , just to to , um
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why don't we do that ?
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One more remark , uh , concerning the SRI recognizer. Um. It is useful to transcribe and then ultimately train models for things like breath , and also laughter is very , very frequent and important to to model.
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Mm - hmm.
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So ,
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So ,
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if you can in your transcripts mark
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mark them ?
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mark very audible breaths and laughter especially ,
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Mmm.
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um
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They are.
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OK.
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They 're putting Eh , so in curly brackets they put " inhale " or " breath ".
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Oh , great.
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Mm - hmm.
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It they and then in curly brackets they say " laughter ". Now they 're they 're not being awfully precise , uh , m So they 're two types of laughter that are not being distinguished.
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Mm - hmm.
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One is when sometimes s someone will start laughing when they 're in the middle of a sentence.
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Mm - hmm.
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And and then the other one is when they finish the sentence and then they laugh. So , um , I I did s I did some double checking to look through I mean , you 'd need to have extra e extra complications , like time tags indicating the beginning and ending of of the laughing through the utterance.
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It 's not so I don't think it 's , um
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And that and what they 're doing is in both cases just saying " curly brackets laughing " a after the unit.
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As as long as there is an indication that there was laughter somewhere between two words I think that 's sufficient ,
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Yeah.
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Good. Oh !
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Against they could do forced alignment.
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OK.
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because actually the recognition of laughter once you kn um you know , is pretty good.
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Yeah.
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So as long as you can stick a you know , a t a tag in there that that indicates that there was laughter ,
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Oh , I didn't know that.
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that would probably be , uh , sufficient to train models.
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OK.
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That would be a really interesting prosodic feature ,
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Then
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Yeah.
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And let me ask y and I gotta ask you one thing about that.
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when
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Hmm.
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So , um , if they laugh between two words , you you 'd get it in between the two words.
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Mm - hmm. Right.
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But if they laugh across three or four words you you get it after those four words. Does that matter ?
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Yeah.
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Well , the thing that you is hard to deal with is whe when they speak while laughing. Um , and that 's , uh I don't think that we can do very well with that.
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Right.
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So
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Yeah.
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But , um , that 's not as frequent as just laughing between speaking ,
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OK.
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