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Gustavo Mohar is a former chief negotiation for migration affairs for Mexico and he was kind enough to join us here in Studio 3A on his way to the airport. | gustavo mohar is, a former chief negotiation for migration, affairs for mexico and. he was kind enough to join us. here, in, studio 3a on his way to the | Gustavo Mohar is a former chief negotiation for migration affairs for Mexico and he was, kind enough to join. us here in Studio 3A on his way to. the | gustavo mohar is a former chief negotiation for migration affairs for mexico and he was kind enough to join us here in studio 3a on his way to the airport. |
Yes, I'm going to say the Republican National Conference, 1949, first ballot, Taft. | yes i'm going to say the republican national, conference 1949, first ballot | Yes I'm going to, say the Republican National Conference 1949, first ballot | yes, i'm going to say the republican national conference, 1949, first ballot, taft. |
Yeah, tell us more about those warnings. The president has admitted that Sri Lankan intelligence got the warnings and did nothing, and he said he personally didn't know about those warnings but promised to shake things up. What's he doing? | yeah tell us more about those warnings the president has admitted that sri lankan intelligence got the warnings and did nothing and he said he personally didn't know about those warnings but. promised to shake things up what's he | Yeah, tell us more about those warnings The president has admitted that Sri Lankan intelligence got the, warnings and did nothing and he. said he personally didn't know about, those warnings but promised to shake things up What's he | yeah, tell us more about those warnings. the president has admitted that sri lankan intelligence got the warnings and did nothing, and he said he personally didn't know about those warnings but promised to shake things up. what's he doing? |
Well, today he asked for the resignation of both the defense secretary and the national chief of police because someone had to take the blame for such a massive intelligence failure. It's a start, but I'm not sure it'll be enough to appease a public very angry at and disillusioned with a government like this after these horrific Easter Sunday attacks. | well today he asked for the resignation of both the defense secretary and the. national chief of. police because someone had to take the blame. for such a massive intelligence failure it's, a start but; i'm. not sure it'll be enough to appease a public very angry at and disillusioned with a government like this, after these horrific easter sunday | Well today he asked for the resignation of both the defense secretary and the national chief of police because someone had to take the blame for such a massive intelligence failure It's a start but I'm not sure it'll, be enough to appease a public very angry at and disillusioned with a government like this after these horrific Easter Sunday, | well, today he asked for the resignation of both the defense secretary and the national chief of police because someone had to take the blame for such a massive intelligence failure. it's a start, but i'm not sure it'll be enough to appease a public very angry at and disillusioned with a government like this after these horrific easter sunday attacks. |
That's NPR's Michael Sullivan in Colombo, Sri Lanka. Thanks, Michael. | that's npr's michael, sullivan in colombo sri lanka thanks | That's NPR's Michael Sullivan in Colombo Sri Lanka Thanks. | that's npr's michael sullivan in colombo, sri lanka. thanks, michael. |
You're welcome, Ari. | you're welcome | You're welcome | you're welcome, ari. |
I flew back and forth to Chicago this week. And there were lots of passengers, myself included, who grouched about the long, slow security lines where schoolgirls who have to take off their pink running shoes can seem to take forever to unlace and relace, convalescent senior citizens are made to limp out of their wheelchairs to walk through metal detectors and body scanners and traveling salespeople, who have to heft their bulky black cases onto conveyors and shake their small, tired see-through bags of toiletries to show they're not carrying incendiary materials. | i flew back and forth to chicago this. week and there were lots of passengers myself included who grouched about, the long slow security lines where schoolgirls who have. to take off their pink running shoes can seem to take forever to unlace and relace convalescent senior, citizens are made to limp out of their wheelchairs to walk through metal; detectors and body scanners. and traveling salespeople who have to heft their bulky black cases onto conveyors and shake their; small tired see-through bags of toiletries to show they're not carrying incendiary | I flew back and forth to Chicago this week And there were lots of passengers myself, included who grouched about the long slow security lines where schoolgirls who have; to take off their pink running, shoes can seem to take forever to unlace and relace convalescent senior citizens are made to, limp out of their wheelchairs to walk through metal detectors and body scanners and traveling salespeople, who have to heft their bulky black cases onto, conveyors and shake their small tired see-through bags of toiletries to show they're not. carrying incendiary | i flew back and forth to chicago this week. and there were lots of passengers, myself included, who grouched about the long, slow security lines where schoolgirls who have to take off their pink running shoes can seem to take forever to unlace and relace, convalescent senior citizens are made to limp out of their wheelchairs to walk through metal detectors and body scanners and traveling salespeople, who have to heft their bulky black cases onto conveyors and shake their small, tired see-through bags of toiletries to show they're not carrying incendiary materials. |
It's easy to groan and grow impatient if we think - when is the last time the sixth-grade student in running shoes or an elderly woman in a wheelchair or a software salesman who filched the shampoo bottle from his last hotel tried to bring down an airplane? And then last year, an internal investigation by the Department of Homeland Security documented how their covered team snuck banned items through the screeners 67 out of 72 times. | it's easy to groan and grow impatient if we think - when. is. the last time the sixth-grade student in running shoes or an elderly. woman in a wheelchair or a software salesman who filched the shampoo bottle from his last hotel tried to. bring down; an airplane? and then last, year an internal investigation by the department of homeland security documented how their covered team snuck banned items through the screeners 67 out of | It's easy to groan and grow impatient if we think - when is the last time the sixth-grade, student in running shoes or an elderly woman in a wheelchair or a software, salesman who filched the shampoo bottle from his last hotel tried to bring down an airplane? And then last year an internal investigation by the Department of Homeland Security documented; how their covered team snuck banned items through the screeners; 67 out of | it's easy to groan and grow impatient if we think - when is the last time the sixth-grade student in running shoes or an elderly woman in a wheelchair or a software salesman who filched the shampoo bottle from his last hotel tried to bring down an airplane? and then last year, an internal investigation by the department of homeland security documented how their covered team snuck banned items through the screeners 67 out of 72 times. |
When I flew back yesterday morning, the day after EgyptAir flight 804 apparently fell from the sky, lines were even slower. But there was a lot more silent resignation among the sullen lines of passengers. The loss of that aircraft, whether or not it turns out to be a terrorist act, reminded us why those security lines are there. I'm among those Americans who grew up ducking to the floor a few times a year to take shelter from a nuclear bomb. We look back and those times now and usually laugh to think the government officials ever advised citizens that a school desk could keep anyone safe from a nuclear fire ball. But while nuclear war was a real threat, the menace was hard to imagine. In these times, we have seen airplanes being taken over or blown up in the sky. | when i flew back yesterday, morning the day after egyptair flight 804 apparently, fell from the sky lines were even slower but there was a lot, more silent. resignation among. the sullen lines of passengers the loss, of that aircraft whether or not it turns. out to be a terrorist act reminded us; why those security lines are there i'm among those americans who grew up ducking to the floor a few times. a year, to take shelter from a nuclear bomb we look back and. those times now and usually laugh to think the government officials ever advised citizens that a school desk could keep anyone safe from a nuclear fire ball but while. nuclear war was a real threat the menace was hard to imagine. in these times we have seen airplanes being taken over or blown up in the | When I flew back yesterday morning the day after EgyptAir flight 804 apparently fell from the sky lines were even slower But there was a lot more silent resignation among the sullen lines of passengers The loss of that aircraft whether or not it turns out to be. a terrorist act reminded us why those security lines are there I'm among those Americans, who grew up ducking to the floor a few times a year to take shelter from a nuclear bomb We look, back and those times now and usually laugh to think the government officials ever advised citizens that a school desk could, keep anyone safe from a nuclear fire ball But. while nuclear war was a real threat, the menace was hard to imagine In these times. we have seen airplanes being taken over or blown up in the | when i flew back yesterday morning, the day after egyptair flight 804 apparently fell from the sky, lines were even slower. but there was a lot more silent resignation among the sullen lines of passengers. the loss of that aircraft, whether or not it turns out to be a terrorist act, reminded us why those security lines are there. i'm among those americans who grew up ducking to the floor a few times a year to take shelter from a nuclear bomb. we look back and those times now and usually laugh to think the government officials ever advised citizens that a school desk could keep anyone safe from a nuclear fire ball. but while nuclear war was a real threat, the menace was hard to imagine. in these times, we have seen airplanes being taken over or blown up in the sky. |
There are security experts who've raised sound questions about whether those long lines, body scans and occasional patdowns do much to actually catch or deter bombers and hijackers. Some suggest that locks on cockpit doors and the increased vigilance of passengers have done much more. | there are security. experts who've raised sound questions about. whether those long lines body scans and occasional patdowns do. much, to actually catch or deter bombers and hijackers some suggest that locks on cockpit doors and the increased vigilance of passengers have done much | There are security experts who've raised sound questions about whether. those long. lines body scans and. occasional patdowns do much to actually catch or deter bombers and hijackers Some suggest that locks on cockpit doors and, the increased vigilance of passengers have done much | there are security experts who've raised sound questions about whether those long lines, body scans and occasional patdowns do much to actually catch or deter bombers and hijackers. some suggest that locks on cockpit doors and the increased vigilance of passengers have done much more. |
But terrorists can adjust their tactics were quickly then bureaucracies can change their policies. The TSA can do the right thing thousands of times and never get credit, but if they're wrong just once, they're disgraced, and it can cost lives. Those guards who can seem so grim, slow and unreasonable when you're in a hurry may cause you to miss your flight, but as we've been reminded again this week, that's not the worst thing that can happen. | but terrorists can adjust their tactics were quickly then bureaucracies can change their policies the tsa can do the right thing thousands of times and never, get credit but if they're wrong just once, they're. disgraced, and it can, cost, lives those guards who can seem so grim slow and unreasonable when you're in, a; hurry may cause you to miss your flight. but as we've been reminded again this week that's not the worst, thing that can | But terrorists can adjust their, tactics were quickly then bureaucracies can change their policies The TSA can, do the right thing thousands. of times and never get credit but if they're wrong, just once they're disgraced and it can cost lives Those guards who can, seem so grim slow and unreasonable, when you're in a hurry may cause you to miss your flight but. as we've been reminded again this week that's not the worst thing that can | but terrorists can adjust their tactics were quickly then bureaucracies can change their policies. the tsa can do the right thing thousands of times and never get credit, but if they're wrong just once, they're disgraced, and it can cost lives. those guards who can seem so grim, slow and unreasonable when you're in a hurry may cause you to miss your flight, but as we've been reminded again this week, that's not the worst thing that can happen. |
The master of the musical, filmmaker Stanley Donen, died late last week at the age of 94 years old. He was the last surviving major director of the Classic Hollywood era. | the master of the musical filmmaker stanley donen died late last week at the age of 94 years old he was the last surviving, major director of the classic hollywood. | The master of the musical filmmaker Stanley Donen. died late last week at the. age of. 94 years old He was the last surviving. major; director of the Classic Hollywood | the master of the musical, filmmaker stanley donen, died late last week at the age of 94 years old. he was the last surviving major director of the classic hollywood era. |
He was born in Columbia, S.C., where he spent his childhood watching movies. He was inspired by Fred Astaire, one of his favorite actors, and began taking dancing lessons. At age 16, Donen moved to New York City to pursue a career on Broadway, where he eventually met Gene Kelly. They would go on to create landmark movie musicals together, including... | he, was born in. columbia, s.c., where he spent his childhood watching movies, he was inspired by fred astaire one of his favorite, actors and began taking dancing. lessons, at age 16, donen moved to new york city to pursue a career on broadway where he eventually met, gene kelly they would go on to create, landmark movie musicals together | He was born in, Columbia S.C., where he spent his childhood watching movies, He was inspired by Fred Astaire one of his favorite actors and began taking dancing lessons At age, 16, Donen moved to New York City to pursue a career. on Broadway where he eventually met Gene Kelly They would go on to create landmark movie musicals together, | he was born in columbia, s.c., where he spent his childhood watching movies. he was inspired by fred astaire, one of his favorite actors, and began taking dancing lessons. at age 16, donen moved to new york city to pursue a career on broadway, where he eventually met gene kelly. they would go on to create landmark movie musicals together, including... |
(SOUNDBITE OF FILM, "SINGIN' IN THE RAIN") | (soundbite of film "singin' in the | (SOUNDBITE OF FILM "SINGIN' IN THE. | (soundbite of film, "singin' in the rain") |
(Singing) I'm singin' in the rain. Just singin' in the rain. What a glorious feelin'. I'm happy again. | (singing) i'm singin' in, the rain just singin' in the rain what a glorious feelin'. i'm happy | (Singing) I'm singin' in, the rain Just singin' in the rain What a, glorious. feelin'. I'm, happy | (singing) i'm singin' in the rain. just singin' in the rain. what a glorious feelin'. i'm happy again. |
You know you want to sing, David. Just go ahead. | you know you want to sing david just go | You. know you, want to sing David Just go | you know you want to sing, david. just go ahead. |
I do, kind of. But let's move on. In the movie "Royal Wedding," Donen directed his childhood idol, Fred Astaire. And in one famous scene, Astaire seamlessly dances his way along the walls and ceiling of a spinning room, singing this one. | i do kind, of but let's move on in the movie "royal wedding" donen directed his childhood idol fred astaire and in one famous scene astaire seamlessly dances his way along the. walls and ceiling, of, a spinning room singing this | I do kind of But let's move on In the. movie "Royal; Wedding" Donen directed his childhood idol Fred Astaire And in, one famous scene Astaire seamlessly dances his way along the walls and ceiling of a spinning room, singing this | i do, kind of. but let's move on. in the movie "royal wedding," donen directed his childhood idol, fred astaire. and in one famous scene, astaire seamlessly dances his way along the walls and ceiling of a spinning room, singing this one. |
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(Singing) You're all places that leave me breathless. And, no wonder, you're all the world to me. | (singing) you're. all. places that leave me breathless and no wonder you're all the world to | (Singing) You're all places that leave me breathless And no wonder you're all the world to | (singing) you're all places that leave me breathless. and, no wonder, you're all the world to me. |
Donen also directed films like "On The Town," "Funny Face" and "Charade." In 1997, he received an honorary Oscar for lifetime achievement. During his speech, he burst out into song and dance. | donen. also directed films like "on. the town" "funny face" and "charade" in. 1997, he received an honorary oscar for lifetime achievement during his speech he burst; out into song; and. | Donen, also directed films like. "On The Town" "Funny, Face" and, "Charade" In 1997, he received an, honorary Oscar for lifetime achievement During his speech he burst out into song and | donen also directed films like "on the town," "funny face" and "charade." in 1997, he received an honorary oscar for lifetime achievement. during his speech, he burst out into song and dance. |
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Tonight, words seem inadequate. In musicals, that's when we do a song. So... | tonight words, seem inadequate in musicals that's when we do a song | Tonight words seem inadequate In musicals that's when we do a song | tonight, words seem inadequate. in musicals, that's when we do a song. so... |
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(Singing) Heaven. | (singing) heaven. |
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(Singing) I'm in heaven. | (singing) i'm. in | (Singing) I'm in | (singing) i'm in heaven. |
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(Singing) And my heart beats so that I can hardly speak. And I seem to find the happiness I seek when we're out together dancing cheek to cheek. | (singing) and my heart beats so that i can hardly speak and i seem to find the happiness i seek when we're. out together dancing cheek. to | (Singing) And, my heart, beats so that I. can hardly speak And I seem to find. the happiness I. seek when we're out together. dancing cheek to | (singing) and my heart beats so that i can hardly speak. and i seem to find the happiness i seek when we're out together dancing cheek to cheek. |
He was in his 70s when he was singing that song. Stanley Donen was married and divorced no fewer than five times. He is survived by his partner of 20 years, Elaine May. | he was in his 70s when he was singing that song stanley donen was married and divorced no fewer, than five times he is survived by his partner of 20 years elaine | He was in his 70s when he was singing that song, Stanley Donen was married and divorced no, fewer than five times He is survived by his partner of 20 years Elaine | he was in his 70s when he was singing that song. stanley donen was married and divorced no fewer than five times. he is survived by his partner of 20 years, elaine may. |
(SOUNDBITE OF FILM, "SINGIN' IN THE RAIN") | (soundbite of film "singin' in the | (SOUNDBITE OF FILM "SINGIN' IN THE. | (soundbite of film, "singin' in the rain") |
DONALD O'CONNOR: Make 'em laugh. Make 'em laugh. Don't you know, everyone wants to laugh? (Laughing). My dad said, be an actor, my son, but be a comical one. | donald o'connor: make, 'em laugh make 'em laugh don't you know everyone wants to laugh? (laughing). my dad said be an actor my son but be a comical | DONALD O'CONNOR: Make 'em laugh, Make, 'em laugh Don't you know everyone wants to laugh? (Laughing). My. dad. said be. an actor my son but be a comical | donald o'connor: make 'em laugh. make 'em laugh. don't you know, everyone wants to laugh? (laughing). my dad said, be an actor, my son, but be a comical one. |
Today the partial government shutdown has hit a record. It is now tied for the longest shutdown in U.S. history. And it's almost certain to set a new record as the longest ever, with chances of a breakthrough in talks seeming more remote than ever. In fact, President Trump appears ready to declare a national emergency in order to sidestep Congress and build a border wall. | today. the partial government shutdown has hit a record, it is now tied for the longest shutdown in u.s history and it's almost certain to set a new record as, the longest ever with chances of, a breakthrough in talks seeming more remote than ever in fact president trump appears ready to declare a national emergency in order to sidestep congress and build a border | Today the partial government, shutdown has hit a record It is now, tied for the longest shutdown in U.S history And it's, almost certain to set a new record as the longest ever with chances of a breakthrough in talks seeming more remote than ever In fact President Trump appears ready to declare a national emergency, in order to sidestep Congress. and. build a border | today the partial government shutdown has hit a record. it is now tied for the longest shutdown in u.s. history. and it's almost certain to set a new record as the longest ever, with chances of a breakthrough in talks seeming more remote than ever. in fact, president trump appears ready to declare a national emergency in order to sidestep congress and build a border wall. |
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I have the absolute right to declare a national emergency, the lawyers have so advised me. I'm not prepared to do that yet. But if I have to, I will. I have no doubt about it. I will. This is a crisis. | i have the absolute right to declare a national. emergency the lawyers have. so advised me i'm, not prepared. to do that yet but if i have to, i will, i have no doubt about it i will this is a | I have the absolute right, to, declare a national. emergency the; lawyers have so advised me I'm not prepared to do that yet But if, I have to I will I have no doubt about it I will, This is a. | i have the absolute right to declare a national emergency, the lawyers have so advised me. i'm not prepared to do that yet. but if i have to, i will. i have no doubt about it. i will. this is a crisis. |
All right. We have NPR congressional correspondent Susan Davis in the studio with us. Good morning, Sue. | all right we have npr congressional correspondent susan davis in the studio with. us good morning | All right We have NPR congressional correspondent. Susan Davis in the studio with us Good morning | all right. we have npr congressional correspondent susan davis in the studio with us. good morning, sue. |
Good morning. | good | Good | good morning. |
You know, there really aren't that many outward signs that this massive quake hit. When you drive through town, there are a few stop signs, makeshift stop signs where, you know, traffic lights should be, and they're just blinking. People are going through these four-way stops. But, you know, people say, look, the inside of my house - a lot of people are telling me - got trashed. Things fell down. Broken glass. Pianos toppled. So there certainly is a sense of stress and angst here. I spoke to one woman, named Odessa Newman-Staples. She's retired from a job at the local Navy base here. She said, I came home, my house was trashed. At the same time, she emphasized to me, you know, how lucky the city has been. | you know there really aren't that many outward signs that this. massive quake hit when you drive through. town there are a few stop signs makeshift stop signs where you know traffic lights. should be. and they're just blinking people are going through these, four-way stops but you, know people say look the inside of my house - a lot of people are telling me - got trashed things fell down broken glass pianos toppled so there certainly is a sense of stress and, angst here i spoke to one woman; named odessa newman-staples she's retired from a job at the, local navy base here she said i came home my, house. was trashed at the same time she emphasized. to me you know how lucky. the city has | You know there really aren't that many outward signs that this massive quake hit When you drive through town there are a. few stop signs makeshift stop signs where you know traffic lights, should be and they're just blinking People are, going through these four-way stops But you know people say look the inside of my house - a lot of. people are telling me - got trashed Things fell down Broken glass Pianos toppled So there certainly is a sense. of stress, and angst here, I spoke to one woman named Odessa Newman-Staples She's retired from a job at the local Navy base here She said, I came home my house was trashed At the. same, time she emphasized, to me you know how lucky the city has. | you know, there really aren't that many outward signs that this massive quake hit. when you drive through town, there are a few stop signs, makeshift stop signs where, you know, traffic lights should be, and they're just blinking. people are going through these four-way stops. but, you know, people say, look, the inside of my house - a lot of people are telling me - got trashed. things fell down. broken glass. pianos toppled. so there certainly is a sense of stress and angst here. i spoke to one woman, named odessa newman-staples. she's retired from a job at the local navy base here. she said, i came home, my house was trashed. at the same time, she emphasized to me, you know, how lucky the city has been. |
So how could it be, though, that this earthquake, which is reportedly the largest, most significant in California in over 20 years, how is it that it didn't do more damage? Is California getting better at anticipating - not anticipating, but in retrofitting to prepare for something like this? | so, how could it be though that this, earthquake which is reportedly the largest most significant in california in over 20 years how is it that it didn't do more damage? is california getting better at anticipating. - not anticipating but in retrofitting, to prepare for something like | So how could it be though that this earthquake which is reportedly the largest most significant in California. in over 20 years how is it that it didn't do, more damage? Is, California getting better at anticipating - not, anticipating but in retrofitting to prepare for, something like | so how could it be, though, that this earthquake, which is reportedly the largest, most significant in california in over 20 years, how is it that it didn't do more damage? is california getting better at anticipating - not anticipating, but in retrofitting to prepare for something like this? |
Yeah. I think it's hard to draw big conclusions about whether, you know, California's gotten better at preparing for big quakes. I think the biggest factor may be that this hit, you know, in a pretty rural area in the desert. The state is spending, Rachel, a lot of money on everything from quake sensors, to subsidizing, you know, retrofitting of people's homes, bolting your foundation down. You know, but at the same time, everyone here, from the governor to the local mayor, are also emphasizing, you know, personal responsibility. Get your personal quake kit up to date with food and water and a go bag. Have a plan with your family. Get those in order 'cause the next one could be worse. | yeah i think it's hard to draw big conclusions. about whether you know california's gotten better at preparing for big quakes i, think the biggest factor may be that this hit you know in a pretty rural area, in the desert the state is spending rachel a lot; of money on everything from quake sensors to subsidizing you know retrofitting of people's homes bolting your foundation down; you, know but at the same time everyone here from the governor to. the local mayor are also emphasizing you. know personal responsibility get your personal quake kit up to date with food and water and a go bag have a plan with your family get those in order 'cause the next, one could be | Yeah, I think it's hard to draw big conclusions about whether you know California's; gotten better at preparing for big quakes I think the biggest factor may be that this hit you know in a pretty rural area in the desert The state is spending Rachel a lot of money on everything from, quake, sensors. to subsidizing you know retrofitting of people's, homes bolting your foundation, down You. know but. at the same time everyone here from the governor to the, local mayor are also emphasizing you know, personal. responsibility Get your personal quake kit up to. date with food and water and a go bag Have a plan with your family Get those, in order 'cause the next. one could be | yeah. i think it's hard to draw big conclusions about whether, you know, california's gotten better at preparing for big quakes. i think the biggest factor may be that this hit, you know, in a pretty rural area in the desert. the state is spending, rachel, a lot of money on everything from quake sensors, to subsidizing, you know, retrofitting of people's homes, bolting your foundation down. you know, but at the same time, everyone here, from the governor to the local mayor, are also emphasizing, you know, personal responsibility. get your personal quake kit up to date with food and water and a go bag. have a plan with your family. get those in order 'cause the next one could be worse. |
NPR's Eric Westervelt for us this morning. Thanks, Eric. We appreciate it. | npr's eric westervelt for us this morning thanks. eric we appreciate | NPR's Eric Westervelt for us this morning, Thanks Eric We appreciate | npr's eric westervelt for us this morning. thanks, eric. we appreciate it. |
You're welcome. | you're | You're | you're welcome. |
Richard Grenell explained in a recent Wall Street Journal opinion piece that Mitt Romney chose him to serve as his foreign policy spokesman based on his record and his abilities. The Romney campaign, he says, and every other Republican, also knew he was gay. Still, shortly after his appointment, Grenell resigned, citing criticism from some conservatives and what he described as hyper-partisan discussion of personal issues. While the campaign is expected to focus on the economy this fall, candidate Romney also attacks President Obama's foreign policy and declares that as president he would pursue unapologetic U.S. global leadership. | richard grenell explained in a recent, wall street journal opinion piece that, mitt romney chose him to serve, as his foreign policy spokesman based on his record and his abilities the romney campaign he says and every other republican also knew he was gay still shortly after his appointment grenell resigned citing criticism from some conservatives and what. he described as, hyper-partisan discussion of. personal issues while, the campaign, is expected to focus on the economy this fall candidate romney also attacks president obama's foreign. policy and declares that as. president he would pursue unapologetic u.s global | Richard Grenell explained in a recent Wall Street Journal opinion piece that Mitt Romney chose him to serve as his foreign policy spokesman based on his record and his abilities The Romney. campaign he says and every other Republican also knew he was gay Still shortly after his appointment Grenell resigned citing criticism from some conservatives and. what he described as hyper-partisan discussion of personal issues While the campaign is expected to focus on the economy this fall candidate Romney also attacks President Obama's foreign policy and declares, that as president, he would. pursue unapologetic U.S global | richard grenell explained in a recent wall street journal opinion piece that mitt romney chose him to serve as his foreign policy spokesman based on his record and his abilities. the romney campaign, he says, and every other republican, also knew he was gay. still, shortly after his appointment, grenell resigned, citing criticism from some conservatives and what he described as hyper-partisan discussion of personal issues. while the campaign is expected to focus on the economy this fall, candidate romney also attacks president obama's foreign policy and declares that as president he would pursue unapologetic u.s. global leadership. |
American foreign policy must be prosecuted with clarity and resolve. Our friends and allies must have no doubts about where we stand, and neither should our rivals. | american foreign policy must be prosecuted with, clarity and resolve our friends and allies must have no doubts about where we stand and, neither should our | American foreign policy must be prosecuted with clarity and resolve Our friends and. allies must. have no doubts about where we stand and neither should our | american foreign policy must be prosecuted with clarity and resolve. our friends and allies must have no doubts about where we stand, and neither should our rivals. |
Richard Grenell will join us in a moment from a studio in Grand Rapids. If you have questions for him about gay conservatives or about Mitt Romney's foreign policy, give us a call. 800-989-8255. Email: [email protected]. You can also join the conversion on our website. That's at npr.org. Click on TALK ON THE NATION. Richard Grenell, nice to have you with us today. | richard grenell will join us in a moment from a studio in grand rapids if you have questions for him about gay conservatives or. about mitt romney's foreign policy give us, a call 800-989-8255. email: [email protected] you can also. join the conversion on our website that's at npr.org click on talk on the nation richard grenell nice to have. you with us. | Richard Grenell will join us in a moment from a, studio, in Grand Rapids If you have questions for him about gay conservatives or about Mitt, Romney's. foreign policy give us. a call 800-989-8255. Email: [email protected], You can, also join the conversion on our website That's at npr.org Click on TALK ON THE NATION Richard Grenell nice to have you with us | richard grenell will join us in a moment from a studio in grand rapids. if you have questions for him about gay conservatives or about mitt romney's foreign policy, give us a call. 800-989-8255. email: [email protected]. you can also join the conversion on our website. that's at npr.org. click on talk on the nation. richard grenell, nice to have you with us today. |
Thanks, Neal. Thanks for having me. | thanks. neal thanks for having | Thanks Neal Thanks for having | thanks, neal. thanks for having me. |
And did the controversy that developed over your sexuality make it impossible to do your job? | and did the controversy that developed over your. sexuality make it impossible to do your | And did the. controversy that developed over your sexuality make it impossible to do your | and did the controversy that developed over your sexuality make it impossible to do your job? |
Yeah, I think so. I mean, I was hired because of my experience in dealing with national security issues, and obviously my desire to confront President Obama's weak record when it comes to foreign policy issues. And what became increasingly clear is just that the far right and the far left, which a lot of media are not focusing on the far left's responsibility here, but the far right and the far left together really just wanted to talk about my personal life. | yeah i think so i mean; i, was, hired because of my experience in dealing with national security issues and, obviously my desire to confront president obama's, weak record when it comes to foreign policy issues and what became increasingly, clear is just that the far right and the far left. which a lot of media are; not focusing on the far left's responsibility here but the far right and the far left together really just wanted to talk, about my personal, | Yeah I. think so I mean I was hired because of my experience in dealing with national security issues, and obviously my desire to confront President Obama's weak record when. it comes to foreign policy issues And what became increasingly clear is just that the. far right and, the far left which a lot of media are not focusing on the far, left's responsibility here. but the far right and the far left together really just wanted to talk about my personal | yeah, i think so. i mean, i was hired because of my experience in dealing with national security issues, and obviously my desire to confront president obama's weak record when it comes to foreign policy issues. and what became increasingly clear is just that the far right and the far left, which a lot of media are not focusing on the far left's responsibility here, but the far right and the far left together really just wanted to talk about my personal life. |
And there was a story in The New York Times that said at one point you were trying to get together a conference on national security, your expertise, and you were asked by the Romney campaign to lay low for a little while. | and there was a story in the new york times that said at one point you were trying to, get. together a conference, on national security your expertise and you were asked by the romney campaign to lay, low for a little | And there was a story in; The New York, Times that said. at one point you were. trying. to get together, a conference on national security your expertise, and you were asked. by the Romney campaign to lay low for a little | and there was a story in the new york times that said at one point you were trying to get together a conference on national security, your expertise, and you were asked by the romney campaign to lay low for a little while. |
Yeah. I mean, again, what became increasingly clear is that this fervor on the left and the right didn't want me to do my job. They really wanted to talk about gay marriage and, you know, a lot of my personal life. And, you know, for me, I don't have the luxury of being a one-issue voter. I wish I did. I'm much more thoughtful and complex than that. But the narrative that was developing is that, you know, gays can't be conservative. The claim that gays should be barred from conservative activism is a bipartisan bigoted view. And what I saw from the left is they didn't want a person to be - a gay person to be conservative. And the far right didn't want a conservative to be gay. | yeah i mean again; what became increasingly. clear is. that this fervor on the, left and the right didn't want me to do my job they really wanted to talk about gay marriage and you know a lot of my. personal life and you know for me i don't have the luxury of being a one-issue voter i wish i. did i'm much more. thoughtful and complex than that but the narrative that was developing is that you know, gays can't be, conservative the claim that gays should. be barred from conservative activism is a bipartisan bigoted view and what i saw from the left is they didn't want a person to be - a gay person. to be conservative and the far, right didn't want a conservative to be | Yeah I mean again what became increasingly clear is that this, fervor on the left and the right didn't want me to do my. job They really wanted to talk about gay marriage and you know a lot of my personal life And you know for me I don't have the luxury of being a one-issue voter I wish I did I'm; much more thoughtful and complex than that But the narrative that was developing is that you know gays can't be conservative The claim that gays should be; barred from conservative activism is a bipartisan bigoted view And what I saw from the left is they didn't want a, person to be, - a gay, person to be conservative And the far right didn't want a conservative, to be | yeah. i mean, again, what became increasingly clear is that this fervor on the left and the right didn't want me to do my job. they really wanted to talk about gay marriage and, you know, a lot of my personal life. and, you know, for me, i don't have the luxury of being a one-issue voter. i wish i did. i'm much more thoughtful and complex than that. but the narrative that was developing is that, you know, gays can't be conservative. the claim that gays should be barred from conservative activism is a bipartisan bigoted view. and what i saw from the left is they didn't want a person to be - a gay person to be conservative. and the far right didn't want a conservative to be gay. |
Some of the questions, and you've gotten many more than I have, so I will bow to your greater expertise on this as well. But some of the questions said how could someone who is openly gay, has a partner, supports gay marriage, in fact would like to be married, as I understand it, support a presidential - indeed, work for a presidential candidate who says he'll work for a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage everywhere? | some, of the questions and, you've gotten many more than i have so. i will. bow to your greater expertise on this as well but some of the questions said how could someone who is openly gay has a partner supports gay marriage in fact would like, to be, married as i understand it support a presidential - indeed work for a presidential candidate who says he'll work for a constitutional amendment to. ban gay marriage | Some of the questions and you've gotten many more than I have so I will bow to your greater expertise on this; as well But some of the questions said how could someone who is openly gay has a partner supports gay. marriage in fact would like to be married as I understand it support a, presidential - indeed work for a presidential candidate who says he'll work for a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage | some of the questions, and you've gotten many more than i have, so i will bow to your greater expertise on this as well. but some of the questions said how could someone who is openly gay, has a partner, supports gay marriage, in fact would like to be married, as i understand it, support a presidential - indeed, work for a presidential candidate who says he'll work for a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage everywhere? |
Look, I'm very comfortably gay and comfortably conservative. If you're looking to agree with a politician's position on every single issue, well, then congratulations because you're the candidate. Most of us realize that you have to prioritize issues. You have a bunch of complicated issues. When you go into the voting booth, you are making a decision on who best represents your worldview. And for me, that's clearly Mitt Romney. I mean, if you look at the president's record with Russia, Iran, Syria, Sudan, Mexico, our neighbor to the south, it's just overwhelming to me that this president does not want America to be the leader. He wants us to be one of many. And that's not a worldview that I want for America, and it's not a view that I want to vote for. | look i'm very comfortably gay and comfortably conservative if you're looking to agree with, a politician's position on every single issue well then congratulations because, you're the candidate most of us realize that you have to prioritize issues you have, a bunch of complicated issues, when you go into the voting booth you are making, a decision on who best; represents your worldview and for me that's clearly mitt romney i, mean if you look at the president's record with russia iran syria sudan mexico our neighbor to the south it's just overwhelming to me that this president does not want. america; to be the leader he wants us to be one of many and that's not a worldview that i want for america and it's not a, view that, i want to, vote | Look I'm. very comfortably gay and. comfortably conservative If you're looking to agree with a. politician's. position on every single issue well then congratulations because you're the candidate Most of us realize that you have to prioritize issues You have a bunch of, complicated issues When. you go into, the voting. booth you are making a decision on who best; represents. your worldview And for me, that's clearly Mitt, Romney I mean if you look at the president's. record with Russia Iran; Syria Sudan Mexico our neighbor to the south it's just overwhelming to me that this president does not want America to be the leader He wants us to be one of many And that's not a worldview that. I want for America and it's not a view that I want to vote | look, i'm very comfortably gay and comfortably conservative. if you're looking to agree with a politician's position on every single issue, well, then congratulations because you're the candidate. most of us realize that you have to prioritize issues. you have a bunch of complicated issues. when you go into the voting booth, you are making a decision on who best represents your worldview. and for me, that's clearly mitt romney. i mean, if you look at the president's record with russia, iran, syria, sudan, mexico, our neighbor to the south, it's just overwhelming to me that this president does not want america to be the leader. he wants us to be one of many. and that's not a worldview that i want for america, and it's not a view that i want to vote for. |
So let me ask you about some of those issues, and again, you are the former Romney spokesman. You do not speak for the campaign any longer. So your views are your own. But the... | so let me ask you about some of those issues and again you. are the former romney spokesman, you do not speak for the campaign. any longer. so your views, are your; own but | So let. me ask you about some of those; issues and again you are, the former Romney spokesman You do. not. speak for the campaign any longer So your views are your own But | so let me ask you about some of those issues, and again, you are the former romney spokesman. you do not speak for the campaign any longer. so your views are your own. but the... |
Correct. But they - but let me just, you know, say one thing. They are based on, you know, eight years of being the American spokesman at the U.N. for ambassadors. | correct but they - but let me just you know say one thing, they are, based, on you know eight years, of being the american spokesman at the u.n for | Correct But they - but let me just you know say one thing They are based on, you know eight years of, being the. American spokesman at the U.N for | correct. but they - but let me just, you know, say one thing. they are based on, you know, eight years of being the american spokesman at the u.n. for ambassadors. |
Oh, I'm not saying you're not an expert, but... | oh i'm not saying you're not; an expert | Oh I'm not saying you're not an expert | oh, i'm not saying you're not an expert, but... |
Sure. No, no, no. I'm not implying that. But I think it's important since we're talking about being a gay conservative and the campaign and what happened on the campaign. It's important to note that this wasn't an issue when I worked within the Bush administration and government. I draw the distinction between hyper-partisan campaigns and governing. And so, you know, for me, there's two different kind of scenarios that someone subscribes to. And I very willingly signed up for the campaign, but realized the hyperpartisan nature of it was going to prohibit me from doing my job. | sure no no no i'm not implying that but. i think it's. important since. we're talking about being a gay conservative and the campaign and what happened on the campaign it's important to note that this wasn't an issue when. i worked. within the bush administration, and government i draw, the distinction between hyper-partisan campaigns and governing and so you know for me there's two different kind of scenarios that someone, subscribes. to and. i very willingly signed up, for the campaign but realized the hyperpartisan nature of. it was going to, prohibit, me from. doing my | Sure No no no I'm not implying, that But I think it's important, since we're talking about. being a gay conservative and the campaign and what happened; on the campaign It's important to note. that this. wasn't an issue when I worked within the Bush administration and government I draw the distinction between hyper-partisan campaigns and governing, And so. you know for me there's two different kind of scenarios. that, someone subscribes to And I very willingly signed, up for the campaign but realized the hyperpartisan, nature. of it was going to. prohibit me from doing my | sure. no, no, no. i'm not implying that. but i think it's important since we're talking about being a gay conservative and the campaign and what happened on the campaign. it's important to note that this wasn't an issue when i worked within the bush administration and government. i draw the distinction between hyper-partisan campaigns and governing. and so, you know, for me, there's two different kind of scenarios that someone subscribes to. and i very willingly signed up for the campaign, but realized the hyperpartisan nature of it was going to prohibit me from doing my job. |
What would a President Romney do differently than President Obama is now doing with Iran? The sanctions that are accelerating have just about crippled the economy there. | what would a president romney do differently than president obama is now, doing with iran? the sanctions that are; accelerating have just about crippled the economy | What would a President Romney do differently than President Obama is now doing with Iran? The sanctions that are accelerating have just about crippled the economy | what would a president romney do differently than president obama is now doing with iran? the sanctions that are accelerating have just about crippled the economy there. |
What happens is you get $750,000 that are triggered from the declaration of emergency. These are state funds and we get them, and we can use them for hiring of additional law enforcement personnel. You can over time pay your law enforcement equipment. And then I put in a million dollars of federal funds that we'd receive and added to that--it's basically to hire more law enforcement personnel, and this is what is needed the most along the New Mexico border, and that is trained personnel that supplement the Border Patrol. The Border Patrol does a good job. They're good people, but there's not enough of them, and they're understaffed and they're undermanned, and so all of these--this fed--immigration is a federal issue. It's federal policy, but when the federal government doesn't respond to states like Arizona and New Mexico and the kidnappings and the illegal and violent activity continues, it's incumbent upon a governor, I believe, to act. | what. happens is you get $750,000 that are triggered from; the declaration of emergency. these are state funds and we get them and we can use them for hiring of additional law enforcement personnel you can over time pay your law enforcement equipment and then i put in a million dollars of federal funds that we'd receive and added to; that--it's basically to hire, more law enforcement personnel and this is what is needed the most along the; new mexico. border and that is trained personnel that supplement the. border patrol the border patrol does a, good job they're good people but there's not enough of them; and they're. understaffed and they're undermanned and so all of these--this fed--immigration is a federal issue it's federal policy but when the federal government doesn't respond to, states like arizona and, new mexico and the kidnappings and the, illegal and violent activity continues it's incumbent upon a governor i believe to. | What happens is you get $750,000 that are triggered from the declaration of emergency These. are state funds and we. get them and we can use them for hiring of additional law enforcement personnel You can over time pay your law enforcement equipment And then I put in a; million, dollars, of federal funds that we'd receive and added. to; that--it's basically to hire, more law enforcement. personnel and this is what is needed the most along the New. Mexico border. and that; is trained personnel that supplement the Border Patrol The Border Patrol does a good job. They're good people but there's, not enough of them and they're understaffed and they're undermanned and so all of these--this fed--immigration is a. federal issue It's federal policy but when the federal government doesn't respond to states like Arizona and. New Mexico. and the kidnappings and the illegal and violent activity continues; it's incumbent upon a governor I believe to | what happens is you get $750,000 that are triggered from the declaration of emergency. these are state funds and we get them, and we can use them for hiring of additional law enforcement personnel. you can over time pay your law enforcement equipment. and then i put in a million dollars of federal funds that we'd receive and added to that--it's basically to hire more law enforcement personnel, and this is what is needed the most along the new mexico border, and that is trained personnel that supplement the border patrol. the border patrol does a good job. they're good people, but there's not enough of them, and they're understaffed and they're undermanned, and so all of these--this fed--immigration is a federal issue. it's federal policy, but when the federal government doesn't respond to states like arizona and new mexico and the kidnappings and the illegal and violent activity continues, it's incumbent upon a governor, i believe, to act. |
As I'm sure you know, the Department of Homeland Security was more than a little irked by your declaration saying, in fact, that they were planning to send more resources there, and that this was the result of a policy that reduced immigration and border crossings elsewhere. | as i'm sure you know the department of homeland security was more than a little irked by your declaration saying in fact that they were planning to send more resources there and that this was the result of a policy that reduced, immigration and border crossings | As I'm sure you know the Department of. Homeland Security. was more than, a little irked by your declaration. saying in fact that they were planning to, send more resources there and that this was the result of a. policy that reduced, immigration and border crossings | as i'm sure you know, the department of homeland security was more than a little irked by your declaration saying, in fact, that they were planning to send more resources there, and that this was the result of a policy that reduced immigration and border crossings elsewhere. |
Well, that's a very disingenuous argument to say that because they increased border patrols somewhere else, that that helps me when my situation is worse. What you have is a lot of talk from the Homeland Security Department, from the Mexican government. They have all these meetings, they have all these summits, and then they don't include local law enforcement. They don't include governors. And I just talked to the governor of Chihuahua this morning. We're gonna plan some efforts ourselves, and quite frankly one of there reasons is there is no federal immigration policy. What we have now is this 9-11 Commission saying that 2,000 border guards are needed, Border Patrol guards, and the request to the Congress by the administration is for 200. | well that's a very disingenuous argument to say that because they increased border patrols, somewhere else that that helps me when my situation is worse what you have is a lot of talk from the homeland security department from the mexican government they have all these meetings they have all these summits and, then they don't include local, law enforcement they don't include governors and. i just talked to the governor. of chihuahua this morning we're gonna plan some efforts ourselves and quite frankly one of there reasons is there is no federal immigration; policy what we have, now is this 9-11 commission saying that 2,000 border guards are needed border patrol guards and. the request to the congress by the, administration is for | Well that's a very. disingenuous. argument to say that because they. increased border patrols somewhere else that that helps me. when my situation is worse What, you, have is a lot of talk from the Homeland Security Department from the Mexican government They have all these meetings they have all these summits and then they don't include local law enforcement They don't include governors And I just talked to the governor of. Chihuahua this morning We're gonna plan some; efforts ourselves and quite, frankly one of there reasons is there. is no federal immigration policy What we have now is this 9-11 Commission saying that 2,000 border guards are needed Border Patrol guards and the request to the Congress by the administration is for; | well, that's a very disingenuous argument to say that because they increased border patrols somewhere else, that that helps me when my situation is worse. what you have is a lot of talk from the homeland security department, from the mexican government. they have all these meetings, they have all these summits, and then they don't include local law enforcement. they don't include governors. and i just talked to the governor of chihuahua this morning. we're gonna plan some efforts ourselves, and quite frankly one of there reasons is there is no federal immigration policy. what we have now is this 9-11 commission saying that 2,000 border guards are needed, border patrol guards, and the request to the congress by the administration is for 200. |
And I don't know where these extra Border Patrol people are. Maybe they say they're coming, but I don't see them, and when my constituents are being shot at--the chief of police of Columbus, New Mexico, and cattle, over 150, that are dead, and you've got 160,000 pounds of marijuana in the last three months just through my own border crossing, just through my own border patrol area, and it's Hispanics that live on the border. In New Mexico it's 43 Hispanics, and my Hispanic constituents are saying, `Governor, you need to do something. Nothing's happening. We're getting no help.' | and i don't; know where these. extra border patrol people are maybe they say, they're coming but i don't see them and when, my constituents are being shot at--the chief of police of columbus new mexico and cattle over 150, that are dead and you've got 160,000 pounds of, marijuana. in the last three months, just through my own border crossing just through my own border patrol area and it's hispanics that live on the border, in new mexico it's, 43 hispanics and my hispanic constituents are saying `governor you need to do something nothing's happening we're getting no | And I don't know where these extra Border Patrol people are Maybe they say they're coming but I don't see them and when my constituents are being shot at--the chief of police of Columbus New Mexico and cattle over 150, that are, dead and you've got 160,000 pounds of marijuana in the last three months just, through, my own border crossing just through my own border patrol area and it's Hispanics. that live on the border In New Mexico it's 43 Hispanics and. my. Hispanic constituents are. saying `Governor you need to do something Nothing's happening We're getting no | and i don't know where these extra border patrol people are. maybe they say they're coming, but i don't see them, and when my constituents are being shot at--the chief of police of columbus, new mexico, and cattle, over 150, that are dead, and you've got 160,000 pounds of marijuana in the last three months just through my own border crossing, just through my own border patrol area, and it's hispanics that live on the border. in new mexico it's 43 hispanics, and my hispanic constituents are saying, `governor, you need to do something. nothing's happening. we're getting no help.' |
As you know, also, the announcement caught Mexican officials by surprise. Let's listen for a moment. This is a clip of tape from Mexican President Vicente Fox. | as you know also the announcement caught mexican officials by surprise let's listen for. a moment this is a clip of; tape. from, mexican president vicente | As you know also, the announcement caught, Mexican officials by surprise Let's listen for a moment This. is a clip of tape from Mexican President Vicente | as you know, also, the announcement caught mexican officials by surprise. let's listen for a moment. this is a clip of tape from mexican president vicente fox. |
(Through Translator) My call to the US, whether it be at the state level or the government of President Bush, is that instead of posturing, let us have proposals. Instead of everyone working individually, let us work together. That is the only way we can win. | (through translator) my call to the us whether it. be at the state level or the government of president bush is, that instead. of posturing let us have proposals instead of everyone working, individually let us work together that is, the, only way we can | (Through Translator) My call. to the US. whether it be at the state level or the government of President Bush is that instead of posturing let us have proposals Instead of everyone working individually let, us, work, together That is the only way we can | (through translator) my call to the us, whether it be at the state level or the government of president bush, is that instead of posturing, let us have proposals. instead of everyone working individually, let us work together. that is the only way we can win. |
Posturing, Governor? | posturing | Posturing. | posturing, governor? |
Who? President Fox or me? | who? president fox or | Who? President Fox or | who? president fox or me? |
Well, I think he was accusing you. | well i think he was accusing | Well I think he was accusing | well, i think he was accusing you. |
Well, I know President Fox. He's been to New Mexico. I've had so many meetings with the Mexicans on a lot of issues. We have a good relationship. But this is one area where, quite frankly, I don't believe the Mexican government has done much, and I don't know if it's a matter of resources. I mean, they basically say that the flow of immigration is an economic issue and it's basically our problem. I warned the Mexicans that we were gonna take these steps. I've been asking them, for instance, to bulldoze this little town, abandoned town on the Mexican side right on the New Mexico border, that's been a staging area for drugs and for illegal immigration, and nothing happens. So this is why governors take the steps we do to trigger funds so that we can take care of the problem of protecting our constituents. | well i know president fox he's been to new mexico i've had so many meetings with the mexicans on a lot of, issues we have a good relationship but, this is one, area, where quite frankly i don't believe the mexican government has done much and i don't know if, it's a matter, of resources. i mean they basically say that the. flow. of, immigration is an economic issue and it's basically, our problem i warned the mexicans that we were gonna take these steps i've been asking them for instance to bulldoze this, little town; abandoned; town on, the mexican side right on the new mexico border. that's been a staging area for drugs and for illegal immigration and. nothing, happens so this is why, governors take the steps we do to trigger funds so. that we, can take care; of the problem of protecting our | Well I know President Fox He's been to New Mexico I've had so many meetings with the Mexicans on a lot of, issues We have a good relationship But this is one area where quite frankly I don't believe the Mexican government has done much and I don't. know if it's, a matter of resources I mean they basically say that the flow of immigration. is an economic issue and it's basically our problem. I warned; the Mexicans that we, were gonna take these steps I've been asking them for instance to. bulldoze this. little town abandoned. town on the Mexican side right on the New Mexico border that's been, a staging area for drugs and for illegal immigration and nothing happens So this is why governors take the steps we do to trigger, funds, so that we can take care of the problem of protecting our | well, i know president fox. he's been to new mexico. i've had so many meetings with the mexicans on a lot of issues. we have a good relationship. but this is one area where, quite frankly, i don't believe the mexican government has done much, and i don't know if it's a matter of resources. i mean, they basically say that the flow of immigration is an economic issue and it's basically our problem. i warned the mexicans that we were gonna take these steps. i've been asking them, for instance, to bulldoze this little town, abandoned town on the mexican side right on the new mexico border, that's been a staging area for drugs and for illegal immigration, and nothing happens. so this is why governors take the steps we do to trigger funds so that we can take care of the problem of protecting our constituents. |
You know, we can have all these summits and all these statements that we have to have more consultation and more discussion. I have to act. I have to protect my people and cattle and the lawlessness on the border, and also to send a message to the Congress that this is a federal issue. This is a federal problem. Do something. I've spent 15 years in the Congress and I know how tough it is to deal with an immigration bill. But you can't just put it off. We've got to deal with the legal status of immigrants in this country, the 12 million, and then border security. Border security is something that we have to deal with. It's basically a federal responsibility, and it's not happening, and to say that they're taking steps that are affecting other border areas, therefore that's--the result is the trafficking coming into New Mexico is the most absurd, disingenuous argument I've ever heard. | you know we, can, have all these summits and all these statements that we have to have more consultation and, more discussion i have to act i have to protect my people and cattle and the lawlessness on the border; and also to send a message to the. congress that this is a federal issue this is a federal problem do something i've spent; 15 years. in the congress and i know how tough it is, to. deal with an immigration bill, but you can't just put it off we've got to deal with the legal status of immigrants in this country the 12 million and, then border security border. security is something that we have to deal with it's basically a federal responsibility and. it's not happening and to. say that they're taking. steps that are affecting other border areas therefore that's--the result is the trafficking coming into new mexico is the most absurd disingenuous argument i've ever, | You know we can have all these summits and all these. statements that we have to have more consultation and more discussion I have to act I have to protect my people and cattle. and the lawlessness on the border and also to send a message to the Congress that this is. a federal issue This is a federal problem. Do something I've spent 15 years in the Congress. and I know how tough it is to deal. with an immigration bill But you can't just put it off We've got to, deal with the, legal status of immigrants in this country the 12 million. and then border security Border, security is something that we have to, deal with It's, basically a federal responsibility and it's, not happening and to say. that, they're taking steps that are affecting other border areas therefore that's--the result is the trafficking coming into New Mexico is the most absurd, disingenuous argument I've ever | you know, we can have all these summits and all these statements that we have to have more consultation and more discussion. i have to act. i have to protect my people and cattle and the lawlessness on the border, and also to send a message to the congress that this is a federal issue. this is a federal problem. do something. i've spent 15 years in the congress and i know how tough it is to deal with an immigration bill. but you can't just put it off. we've got to deal with the legal status of immigrants in this country, the 12 million, and then border security. border security is something that we have to deal with. it's basically a federal responsibility, and it's not happening, and to say that they're taking steps that are affecting other border areas, therefore that's--the result is the trafficking coming into new mexico is the most absurd, disingenuous argument i've ever heard. |
Let's get some listeners involved in the conversation: (800) 989-8255. Our guest is Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico. E-mail: [email protected]. | let's get some listeners involved in the. conversation: (800) 989-8255. our guest is governor bill richardson of, new mexico | Let's get. some listeners involved in the conversation: (800) 989-8255. Our guest is Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico | let's get some listeners involved in the conversation: (800) 989-8255. our guest is governor bill richardson of new mexico. e-mail: [email protected]. |
And we'll begin with Scott in Annapolis, Maryland. | and we'll begin with. scott in annapolis | And we'll begin with Scott in Annapolis | and we'll begin with scott in annapolis, maryland. |
Yes, Governor. Thanks for taking my call. I came down to Arizona actually, your neighbor, with a group called The Minuteman Project, and I'm not sure if you're familiar with them? | yes governor thanks for taking my call i came down to arizona actually your neighbor with a group, called the minuteman project and i'm not, sure if you're familiar with | Yes Governor Thanks for taking my call I came down to; Arizona actually your neighbor with a. group called The Minuteman. Project and I'm. not, sure if you're familiar with | yes, governor. thanks for taking my call. i came down to arizona actually, your neighbor, with a group called the minuteman project, and i'm not sure if you're familiar with them? |
Yeah. No, I'm familiar with them. | yeah no i'm familiar with | Yeah No I'm, familiar with | yeah. no, i'm familiar with them. |
OK. And are you aware in October we're coming down to basically patrol all of the Southern state borders with currently about 10,000 people? And I'm curious as to if you really want to shut the border down or control the border so that we have some sense of organization, why wouldn't you do like call out the National Guard or even with businesses go after businesses that employ illegals under the RICO Act? | ok and, are you aware in october. we're coming down to basically patrol all of the southern state borders with currently about 10,000 people? and i'm curious as to if you really, want to shut, the border down, or control; the border so that we have some sense of organization why wouldn't you do like call out the national guard or even with businesses go, after businesses that employ illegals under the rico, | OK And are you aware in October we're coming down to basically patrol all of the Southern state borders with currently about 10,000 people? And I'm curious as to if, you really want to shut the border down or control the border so that we have some sense of organization why wouldn't you do like call out the National Guard or even with businesses go after businesses that employ illegals under the RICO | ok. and are you aware in october we're coming down to basically patrol all of the southern state borders with currently about 10,000 people? and i'm curious as to if you really want to shut the border down or control the border so that we have some sense of organization, why wouldn't you do like call out the national guard or even with businesses go after businesses that employ illegals under the rico act? |
Well, the first point I want to make is that we do have some National Guard. We have 56 on our side of the border that are patrolling. The second thing is I think your Minuteman group is very well-intentioned, and you're all good people and patriots, but I really don't want you on the border in New Mexico. Sorry. | well the first point i want to make is that we do have, some national guard we have 56 on our side of the border that are patrolling the second thing is i think your minuteman group is very well-intentioned and, you're all good people and patriots but i really don't want you on the border in new mexico, | Well the first point I want to make is that we do have some National Guard We have 56 on our side of the border that are patrolling The second thing is I think your Minuteman group is very well-intentioned and, you're all good people and patriots but I really don't want you on the border in New Mexico | well, the first point i want to make is that we do have some national guard. we have 56 on our side of the border that are patrolling. the second thing is i think your minuteman group is very well-intentioned, and you're all good people and patriots, but i really don't want you on the border in new mexico. sorry. |
Sure, but even if we're there legally with... | sure but even if we're there legally | Sure but even, if we're there legally | sure, but even if we're there legally with... |
Let the governor finish, if you would, Scott. | let the governor finish if you would | Let the governor finish if you would | let the governor finish, if you would, scott. |
I don't want you on the border in New Mexico because we want trained personnel. We want law enforcement. This is a federal issue. It's the job of the Border Patrol... | i don't want you on the border in new mexico because we, want trained personnel we want law enforcement this is a federal issue it's the job of the border | I don't. want you on the border in New Mexico because we want trained personnel We want law enforcement This is a federal issue It's the job of the Border | i don't want you on the border in new mexico because we want trained personnel. we want law enforcement. this is a federal issue. it's the job of the border patrol... |
...(Unintelligible) volunteers, and I think some of the statements that you guys have made that are inflammatory and--you're well-intentioned, but I really hope you reconsider. I can't stop you. We'll do--in fact, we'll try to protect you while you're there--but I don't want you in New Mexico. This is a job of federal law enforcement that should be done, and we've got to find a way to fund border patrol, more equipment, more protection equipment, more radios. It's a federal responsibility, and I worry about groups like yours--again, well-intentioned, patriots--taking this responsibility. I'm very concerned about it, so I hope you don't come to New Mexico. | ...(unintelligible) volunteers and i think some of the statements that you guys have made that are inflammatory and--you're well-intentioned but i really hope you reconsider i can't stop you we'll do--in fact we'll, try to protect you while you're there--but i don't want you in new mexico this is, a job of federal law enforcement that should be done and we've got to find. a way to fund border patrol more equipment more protection equipment more. radios it's a federal responsibility and i worry about groups like yours--again well-intentioned patriots--taking this responsibility i'm very concerned about it, so i hope you don't come, to new | ...(Unintelligible) volunteers and I think some of the statements that you guys have made that are inflammatory and--you're well-intentioned but I really hope you reconsider I can't stop you We'll do--in fact we'll try to protect you while you're there--but I don't want you in New Mexico This is a job of federal law enforcement that should be done and we've got to find, a way to fund border patrol more equipment more protection equipment more radios It's a federal responsibility. and. I worry about groups; like yours--again well-intentioned patriots--taking this responsibility. I'm very concerned about it so I hope you don't come to New | ...(unintelligible) volunteers, and i think some of the statements that you guys have made that are inflammatory and--you're well-intentioned, but i really hope you reconsider. i can't stop you. we'll do--in fact, we'll try to protect you while you're there--but i don't want you in new mexico. this is a job of federal law enforcement that should be done, and we've got to find a way to fund border patrol, more equipment, more protection equipment, more radios. it's a federal responsibility, and i worry about groups like yours--again, well-intentioned, patriots--taking this responsibility. i'm very concerned about it, so i hope you don't come to new mexico. |
Scott asked specifically about the RICO law which is a federal statute and not within your purview, but he also asked, `You're the governor. Why don't you call out the New Mexico National Guard?' | scott asked specifically; about the rico law which is a federal statute and not within your purview but he also, asked `you're the governor why don't; you call out the new mexico national | Scott asked specifically about the RICO. law which is a. federal statute and not within your purview but, he, also asked `You're the governor Why don't you call out the New Mexico National | scott asked specifically about the rico law which is a federal statute and not within your purview, but he also asked, `you're the governor. why don't you call out the new mexico national guard?' |
Well, I have. I just said I have 57 National Guardsmen. I don't want to close the border. I just acted on an emergency declaration that triggers more funds for me. I believe, for instance, if you look at New Mexico, we're one of the most immigrant-friendly states. We provide licenses to undocumented workers, tuition for undocumented kids. Now why do we do that? Because we believe in safety. We can keep track of them. You don't want a bunch of undocumented workers driving around without insurance. By giving them licenses that require insurance, you keep tabs of them. You bring them into society, so besides very strong border security measures which should be done for our national security, prevent terrorism, drug smuggling, etc., we need to have a guest worker proposal that makes sense. And I think President Bush has probably moved in the right direction saying after a certain period of time, you've got to find a way to give these immigrants some kind of status. Not citizenship, not legalization, but maybe a green card. | well i have i just said i, have 57 national guardsmen i don't want to close the border i just acted on an emergency declaration that triggers more funds for me i believe for instance if you look at new mexico we're one of the most immigrant-friendly states we provide, licenses to undocumented. workers, tuition for undocumented kids. now why do we do that? because we believe in, safety we can keep track of them. you don't want a bunch of undocumented workers driving. around without insurance by giving them licenses that require insurance you keep tabs of them you bring them into society, so besides very strong border; security measures which should be done for our national security prevent terrorism drug smuggling etc., we need to have a guest worker proposal that makes sense and i think; president bush, has probably moved in the right direction saying after a certain period of time you've got to find a way to. give these immigrants. some kind of status not citizenship not legalization but maybe a green | Well I have I just said I have 57 National. Guardsmen I don't want to close the border I. just acted on an emergency declaration, that triggers. more funds for me I believe for instance if you look at, New; Mexico we're, one. of the most immigrant-friendly states, We provide licenses to undocumented workers tuition for undocumented kids Now why do. we do that? Because we believe in safety We can keep track of them. You don't. want a bunch of undocumented workers driving. around; without insurance By giving them, licenses that require insurance, you, keep tabs. of them You bring them into society so besides very strong border security measures which should be done for our national security prevent terrorism drug, smuggling etc., we need to have a guest worker. proposal that makes sense And I think President, Bush has probably moved in the right direction saying after a certain period of time you've got to find a way to give these immigrants some kind of status. Not citizenship not legalization but maybe, a green | well, i have. i just said i have 57 national guardsmen. i don't want to close the border. i just acted on an emergency declaration that triggers more funds for me. i believe, for instance, if you look at new mexico, we're one of the most immigrant-friendly states. we provide licenses to undocumented workers, tuition for undocumented kids. now why do we do that? because we believe in safety. we can keep track of them. you don't want a bunch of undocumented workers driving around without insurance. by giving them licenses that require insurance, you keep tabs of them. you bring them into society, so besides very strong border security measures which should be done for our national security, prevent terrorism, drug smuggling, etc., we need to have a guest worker proposal that makes sense. and i think president bush has probably moved in the right direction saying after a certain period of time, you've got to find a way to give these immigrants some kind of status. not citizenship, not legalization, but maybe a green card. |
Let's... | let's... |
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And the Congress refuses to deal with this issue, so this is why those of us in states are taking these actions. | and the congress refuses; to deal with this issue so this, is why. those of us in states. are taking these | And the Congress refuses to deal with this issue so this is why those of us in states are taking these | and the congress refuses to deal with this issue, so this is why those of us in states are taking these actions. |
Scott, we just have 10 seconds left. Are you still planning to head down to the border? | scott we just have 10 seconds left are you still planning to head down. to the, | Scott we just have 10 seconds left Are you still planning. to, head down to the, | scott, we just have 10 seconds left. are you still planning to head down to the border? |
Yes, I am, and I'm a middle-class business owner and I had to shut my business down in April to do it, and it's one of those issues where, as the governor noted, the first time you go to the border and you realize there really is no border, it just totally blows your mind away. If the people would just... | yes i am and. i'm a middle-class. business owner, and i had to shut my business down in april to. do it and it's one, of those. issues, where, as the governor noted the first time you, go, to; the border and you realize there really is. no border it just totally blows your mind away. if the people would | Yes I am and I'm a middle-class business owner and I. had to shut my business down in; April, to do it. and it's one of those issues where as the governor noted the. first time you go to the border and you realize. there really is no border it just totally blows your. mind away If the people would | yes, i am, and i'm a middle-class business owner and i had to shut my business down in april to do it, and it's one of those issues where, as the governor noted, the first time you go to the border and you realize there really is no border, it just totally blows your mind away. if the people would just... |
Scott, thanks. Thanks very much, Scott. I'm afraid we're gonna have to leave it there. We're running out of time. | scott thanks thanks very much scott i'm afraid we're gonna have to leave it there we're running; out of | Scott thanks. Thanks very much Scott I'm afraid we're gonna have to leave it there We're running out of, | scott, thanks. thanks very much, scott. i'm afraid we're gonna have to leave it there. we're running out of time. |
Governor Richardson, thank you so much for your time today. | governor richardson. thank you so much for your time. | Governor Richardson thank you so much for, your time | governor richardson, thank you so much for your time today. |
Thank you. | thank | Thank | thank you. |
Bill Richardson of New Mexico. He joined us from his office there. | bill richardson of new mexico, he, joined us from his office | Bill Richardson of New Mexico He, joined us from his office, | bill richardson of new mexico. he joined us from his office there. |
When we come back from a short break, we'll continue talking about border issues. We'll go to the Mexican side of the border. (800) 989-8255, (800) 989-TALK. | when we come back from, a, short break we'll continue talking about, border issues we'll go to the mexican side of the border | When we come back from a short break. we'll continue talking about border issues We'll go to the Mexican side of the border | when we come back from a short break, we'll continue talking about border issues. we'll go to the mexican side of the border. (800) 989-8255, (800) 989-talk. |
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This is TALK OF THE NATION. I'm Neal Conan in Washington. | this is talk of the nation i'm neal conan; in | This is TALK OF THE NATION I'm Neal Conan in | this is talk of the nation. i'm neal conan in washington. |
As you heard just before the break, Governor Bill Richardson believes the situation along New Mexico's border with Mexico warrants a state of emergency. Next door in Arizona, Governor Janet Napolitano agrees. Both blame the federal governments in the US and Mexico. Mexico responded with a call for greater collaboration between the two countries. We'll hear perspectives from that country in a moment. | as you heard just before the break governor bill richardson believes the situation along new mexico's border with mexico warrants a state of emergency, next door in arizona governor janet napolitano agrees both, blame the federal governments in the, us and mexico mexico responded with a call for greater collaboration between the two, countries we'll hear perspectives from that country in a | As you heard just before the break Governor Bill Richardson, believes the situation along New Mexico's border with Mexico. warrants a state of emergency Next door, in Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano agrees Both blame the federal governments in the US and Mexico Mexico responded with a call for greater collaboration between the two countries We'll hear perspectives from that country in a | as you heard just before the break, governor bill richardson believes the situation along new mexico's border with mexico warrants a state of emergency. next door in arizona, governor janet napolitano agrees. both blame the federal governments in the us and mexico. mexico responded with a call for greater collaboration between the two countries. we'll hear perspectives from that country in a moment. |
Of course, you're invited to join our conversation. What are the roots of the border problems? What should this country do? What should Mexico do to deal with the burdens of illegal immigration and drug smuggling. If you live near the border, if you're been affected by border issues, (800) 989-8255, or e-mail us, [email protected]. | of, course you're invited to join. our conversation what are the, roots of the border problems? what should this country, do? what should, mexico do to deal with the, burdens, of, illegal immigration and drug smuggling. if you live near the border if you're been affected by border issues, (800) 989-8255, or e-mail us | Of course. you're invited to join our conversation What are the roots of the border problems? What should this country do? What should Mexico do to deal with the burdens of illegal immigration and drug. smuggling If you live near the border if you're been. affected by border issues (800) 989-8255, or e-mail us | of course, you're invited to join our conversation. what are the roots of the border problems? what should this country do? what should mexico do to deal with the burdens of illegal immigration and drug smuggling. if you live near the border, if you're been affected by border issues, (800) 989-8255, or e-mail us, [email protected]. |
And joining us here in Studio 3A to discuss Mexico's role in dealing with the border is Gustavo Mohar, the former chief negotiator for migration affairs in Mexico. | and joining us here in. studio 3a, to discuss mexico's role in dealing with the border is gustavo, mohar the former chief negotiator for migration affairs in | And joining us. here in Studio 3A to discuss Mexico's, role in dealing with the border is Gustavo, Mohar the former chief negotiator for migration, affairs in | and joining us here in studio 3a to discuss mexico's role in dealing with the border is gustavo mohar, the former chief negotiator for migration affairs in mexico. |
Thanks very much for joining us. | thanks very much for. joining | Thanks very much for joining | thanks very much for joining us. |
Thank you very much. | thank you very | Thank you very | thank you very much. |
Did the declarations of states of emergency catch the Mexican government by surprise? | did the declarations of states of. emergency catch the mexican government by | Did the declarations of states of, emergency catch the Mexican government by | did the declarations of states of emergency catch the mexican government by surprise? |
Well, not really. I understand that both governors made a call to the Mexican government to announce that they were gonna proceed in this way. We have been working together--the governments have been working together, basically in Arizona and Sonora, to deal with this issue, so the emergency statement produced a lot of funds from the federal government to those counties, so that's good for them. | well not really i understand that both governors made a call to the mexican government to announce that they were gonna. proceed in this way we have been, working together--the governments have been working together basically in arizona and sonora to deal with this issue so the emergency statement produced a, lot of funds. from the federal government to those counties so that's good for | Well not really. I understand that both, governors made a call to the Mexican government to announce that they were gonna proceed in, this way We have been working together--the governments have been working together basically in Arizona, and Sonora to deal with this, issue so the emergency statement produced a lot of funds. from the federal government to those, counties so that's good for | well, not really. i understand that both governors made a call to the mexican government to announce that they were gonna proceed in this way. we have been working together--the governments have been working together, basically in arizona and sonora, to deal with this issue, so the emergency statement produced a lot of funds from the federal government to those counties, so that's good for them. |
Now these are state funds for those counties, not federal money. | now these. are state funds for those counties not federal | Now these, are state funds for, those counties not federal | now these are state funds for those counties, not federal money. |
Exactly, and therefore we think that it is reaction that has to do with some realities that are happening there, but I think we need to put them in perspective. | exactly and. therefore we think that it is reaction that has to do with some, realities that are happening there. but i think we need to put them in | Exactly and therefore we think that it is reaction that has to do with some realities that are happening there but I think we, need to put them in | exactly, and therefore we think that it is reaction that has to do with some realities that are happening there, but i think we need to put them in perspective. |
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