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[CA] A d-list movie used footage of me they filmed without my permission. The title sums it up pretty well. This whole situation was recently brought to my attention by a friend who noticed that I was featured in an awful movie that's now on Netflix. It's a super low budget "Sharknado" style film with a brief ski sequence. I'm the skier in the sequence and the shots were filmed entirely without my permission, I had ***NO*** idea I was even being filmed let alone that the shots would end up in a movie. Skiing is my livelihood and I think I deserve a credit at least, if not a meager payment. What should I do?
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How many years ago was it? I think that California has a two-year statute of limitations on Right of Publicity violations. I'm not sure how this would be counted. As the saying goes, "If you're outside the SOL, you are SOL."
I think everyone here is failing the simple test of, if you were in a public place and you *happened* to be in the video, well, it's unlikely you have any recourse. Now, were you a major element to the scene? Were they filming exclusively **you**. Are you the major/only part of that scene? In that case, using your likeness may cause problems. What do you do about it? I don't know I am not a lawyer. Someone else will have to chime in.
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[CA] A d-list movie used footage of me they filmed without my permission. The title sums it up pretty well. This whole situation was recently brought to my attention by a friend who noticed that I was featured in an awful movie that's now on Netflix. It's a super low budget "Sharknado" style film with a brief ski sequence. I'm the skier in the sequence and the shots were filmed entirely without my permission, I had ***NO*** idea I was even being filmed let alone that the shots would end up in a movie. Skiing is my livelihood and I think I deserve a credit at least, if not a meager payment. What should I do?
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What state were you in? The rules about the commercial use of your private image for a profitable venture vary across the country.
How many years ago was it? I think that California has a two-year statute of limitations on Right of Publicity violations. I'm not sure how this would be counted. As the saying goes, "If you're outside the SOL, you are SOL."
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[CA] A d-list movie used footage of me they filmed without my permission. The title sums it up pretty well. This whole situation was recently brought to my attention by a friend who noticed that I was featured in an awful movie that's now on Netflix. It's a super low budget "Sharknado" style film with a brief ski sequence. I'm the skier in the sequence and the shots were filmed entirely without my permission, I had ***NO*** idea I was even being filmed let alone that the shots would end up in a movie. Skiing is my livelihood and I think I deserve a credit at least, if not a meager payment. What should I do?
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I think everyone here is failing the simple test of, if you were in a public place and you *happened* to be in the video, well, it's unlikely you have any recourse. Now, were you a major element to the scene? Were they filming exclusively **you**. Are you the major/only part of that scene? In that case, using your likeness may cause problems. What do you do about it? I don't know I am not a lawyer. Someone else will have to chime in.
What state were you in? The rules about the commercial use of your private image for a profitable venture vary across the country.
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Please Advise: Cell store employee went through my daughter's camera roll without permission (US) My daughter (20) took her iphone to our cell phone provider's (starts with a "V", ends with "erizon") local store, as she was having sim card issues. The employee who helped her apparently made a few lewd-ish comments and overall made her feel uncomfortable. When he replaced the sim card and handed it back to her, she started to leave the store. The employee then said (paraphrasing), "Before you go, let me check the settings on the phone to make sure it's set up right." She handed the phone back and sees him swiping and tapping, assuming he's in the settings section. (note, two other male employees were standing behind him looking at the phone at this point). She said she started to feel uneasy and looked over the top of the phone and he was scrolling through her photos on her camera roll. She takes the phone back from him and leaves, as he's telling her that he just wanted to make sure her camera settings were 'optimized'. She left and felt extremely disgusted and, yes, violated. I'm asking in this sub because I don't know if there is any legal recourse. As her father, I'm worried that this employee airdropped or forwarded photos from her phone to his. Is there any way to prove this? Is this an issue that I can or should follow up on legally? This just happened two days ago. Aside from driving over the store and causing a scene, I don't know what else I can do. Yes, before you ask, there were risque photos on her camera roll. She's 20 and I'm not naive. She is a grown woman, but she's still my little girl.
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You can check the log on her airdrop to see if any photos were removed, if they were you definitely have a legal case that you should pursue since (if that is the case) your daughter is probably one of many victims. And ignore the pro-incel crowd on this thread, elon gave new life to the trolls. “AirDrop logs are stored within the sysdiagnose log archive on iOS devices…” https://archerhall.com/knowledge-base/airdrop-logs-in-ios-analysis#:~:text=AirDrop%20logs%20are%20stored%20within,from%20the%20device%20via%20AirDrop. https://andreafortuna.org/2020/10/09/how-to-extract-sysdiagnose-logs-for-forensic-purposes-on-ios/
I worked for this company for 3 years until w 2weeks ago. Call HR/CSuite Level 844 894 8433 Call until they answer
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Please Advise: Cell store employee went through my daughter's camera roll without permission (US) My daughter (20) took her iphone to our cell phone provider's (starts with a "V", ends with "erizon") local store, as she was having sim card issues. The employee who helped her apparently made a few lewd-ish comments and overall made her feel uncomfortable. When he replaced the sim card and handed it back to her, she started to leave the store. The employee then said (paraphrasing), "Before you go, let me check the settings on the phone to make sure it's set up right." She handed the phone back and sees him swiping and tapping, assuming he's in the settings section. (note, two other male employees were standing behind him looking at the phone at this point). She said she started to feel uneasy and looked over the top of the phone and he was scrolling through her photos on her camera roll. She takes the phone back from him and leaves, as he's telling her that he just wanted to make sure her camera settings were 'optimized'. She left and felt extremely disgusted and, yes, violated. I'm asking in this sub because I don't know if there is any legal recourse. As her father, I'm worried that this employee airdropped or forwarded photos from her phone to his. Is there any way to prove this? Is this an issue that I can or should follow up on legally? This just happened two days ago. Aside from driving over the store and causing a scene, I don't know what else I can do. Yes, before you ask, there were risque photos on her camera roll. She's 20 and I'm not naive. She is a grown woman, but she's still my little girl.
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I worked for this company for 3 years until w 2weeks ago. Call HR/CSuite Level 844 894 8433 Call until they answer
You need to reach out to executive relations
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Please Advise: Cell store employee went through my daughter's camera roll without permission (US) My daughter (20) took her iphone to our cell phone provider's (starts with a "V", ends with "erizon") local store, as she was having sim card issues. The employee who helped her apparently made a few lewd-ish comments and overall made her feel uncomfortable. When he replaced the sim card and handed it back to her, she started to leave the store. The employee then said (paraphrasing), "Before you go, let me check the settings on the phone to make sure it's set up right." She handed the phone back and sees him swiping and tapping, assuming he's in the settings section. (note, two other male employees were standing behind him looking at the phone at this point). She said she started to feel uneasy and looked over the top of the phone and he was scrolling through her photos on her camera roll. She takes the phone back from him and leaves, as he's telling her that he just wanted to make sure her camera settings were 'optimized'. She left and felt extremely disgusted and, yes, violated. I'm asking in this sub because I don't know if there is any legal recourse. As her father, I'm worried that this employee airdropped or forwarded photos from her phone to his. Is there any way to prove this? Is this an issue that I can or should follow up on legally? This just happened two days ago. Aside from driving over the store and causing a scene, I don't know what else I can do. Yes, before you ask, there were risque photos on her camera roll. She's 20 and I'm not naive. She is a grown woman, but she's still my little girl.
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I worked for this company for 3 years until w 2weeks ago. Call HR/CSuite Level 844 894 8433 Call until they answer
you can also check with the company as while i dont belive they can see what was air dropped they should be able to check if something was air dropped. I work in the IT sector and phones and computers keep really extensive records even if things were deleted
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Please Advise: Cell store employee went through my daughter's camera roll without permission (US) My daughter (20) took her iphone to our cell phone provider's (starts with a "V", ends with "erizon") local store, as she was having sim card issues. The employee who helped her apparently made a few lewd-ish comments and overall made her feel uncomfortable. When he replaced the sim card and handed it back to her, she started to leave the store. The employee then said (paraphrasing), "Before you go, let me check the settings on the phone to make sure it's set up right." She handed the phone back and sees him swiping and tapping, assuming he's in the settings section. (note, two other male employees were standing behind him looking at the phone at this point). She said she started to feel uneasy and looked over the top of the phone and he was scrolling through her photos on her camera roll. She takes the phone back from him and leaves, as he's telling her that he just wanted to make sure her camera settings were 'optimized'. She left and felt extremely disgusted and, yes, violated. I'm asking in this sub because I don't know if there is any legal recourse. As her father, I'm worried that this employee airdropped or forwarded photos from her phone to his. Is there any way to prove this? Is this an issue that I can or should follow up on legally? This just happened two days ago. Aside from driving over the store and causing a scene, I don't know what else I can do. Yes, before you ask, there were risque photos on her camera roll. She's 20 and I'm not naive. She is a grown woman, but she's still my little girl.
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You can check the log on her airdrop to see if any photos were removed, if they were you definitely have a legal case that you should pursue since (if that is the case) your daughter is probably one of many victims. And ignore the pro-incel crowd on this thread, elon gave new life to the trolls. “AirDrop logs are stored within the sysdiagnose log archive on iOS devices…” https://archerhall.com/knowledge-base/airdrop-logs-in-ios-analysis#:~:text=AirDrop%20logs%20are%20stored%20within,from%20the%20device%20via%20AirDrop. https://andreafortuna.org/2020/10/09/how-to-extract-sysdiagnose-logs-for-forensic-purposes-on-ios/
You need to reach out to executive relations
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Please Advise: Cell store employee went through my daughter's camera roll without permission (US) My daughter (20) took her iphone to our cell phone provider's (starts with a "V", ends with "erizon") local store, as she was having sim card issues. The employee who helped her apparently made a few lewd-ish comments and overall made her feel uncomfortable. When he replaced the sim card and handed it back to her, she started to leave the store. The employee then said (paraphrasing), "Before you go, let me check the settings on the phone to make sure it's set up right." She handed the phone back and sees him swiping and tapping, assuming he's in the settings section. (note, two other male employees were standing behind him looking at the phone at this point). She said she started to feel uneasy and looked over the top of the phone and he was scrolling through her photos on her camera roll. She takes the phone back from him and leaves, as he's telling her that he just wanted to make sure her camera settings were 'optimized'. She left and felt extremely disgusted and, yes, violated. I'm asking in this sub because I don't know if there is any legal recourse. As her father, I'm worried that this employee airdropped or forwarded photos from her phone to his. Is there any way to prove this? Is this an issue that I can or should follow up on legally? This just happened two days ago. Aside from driving over the store and causing a scene, I don't know what else I can do. Yes, before you ask, there were risque photos on her camera roll. She's 20 and I'm not naive. She is a grown woman, but she's still my little girl.
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I used to work in a cellphone repair shop and this is a big big no no. Skip the manager and go straight to corporate. As others have said check the air drop logs. Our store had a form for customers to fill out that explained that we would need limited access to the device to test functionality on intake an exit but this could be waived at anytime. While there is an expectation that any and all data on a phone will be visible to employees when the phone is in our possession that does not give the right to go digging though a phone.
You need to reach out to executive relations
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Please Advise: Cell store employee went through my daughter's camera roll without permission (US) My daughter (20) took her iphone to our cell phone provider's (starts with a "V", ends with "erizon") local store, as she was having sim card issues. The employee who helped her apparently made a few lewd-ish comments and overall made her feel uncomfortable. When he replaced the sim card and handed it back to her, she started to leave the store. The employee then said (paraphrasing), "Before you go, let me check the settings on the phone to make sure it's set up right." She handed the phone back and sees him swiping and tapping, assuming he's in the settings section. (note, two other male employees were standing behind him looking at the phone at this point). She said she started to feel uneasy and looked over the top of the phone and he was scrolling through her photos on her camera roll. She takes the phone back from him and leaves, as he's telling her that he just wanted to make sure her camera settings were 'optimized'. She left and felt extremely disgusted and, yes, violated. I'm asking in this sub because I don't know if there is any legal recourse. As her father, I'm worried that this employee airdropped or forwarded photos from her phone to his. Is there any way to prove this? Is this an issue that I can or should follow up on legally? This just happened two days ago. Aside from driving over the store and causing a scene, I don't know what else I can do. Yes, before you ask, there were risque photos on her camera roll. She's 20 and I'm not naive. She is a grown woman, but she's still my little girl.
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I used to work in a cellphone repair shop and this is a big big no no. Skip the manager and go straight to corporate. As others have said check the air drop logs. Our store had a form for customers to fill out that explained that we would need limited access to the device to test functionality on intake an exit but this could be waived at anytime. While there is an expectation that any and all data on a phone will be visible to employees when the phone is in our possession that does not give the right to go digging though a phone.
you can also check with the company as while i dont belive they can see what was air dropped they should be able to check if something was air dropped. I work in the IT sector and phones and computers keep really extensive records even if things were deleted
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fired after my boss went through my purse. I have been working FOH at this restaurant for almost a year. Lately I had been wanting to quit due to a toxic misogynistic atmosphere. Today I was working, and I was going to be working tonight by myself bc we are understaffed and I am one of two employees who can close by myself. I had grabbed a job application to another job, had it filled out and was going to hand it in this morning, but I was running late, so I just shoved it in my purse to hand in tmr. Anyways, I was just making boxes with my coworker, and my boss was in the office doing something. He comes out and asks to speak to me. I go into the office and he says “What’s the job application in your purse”. I looked over to my purse and the little section where it has you fill out your references was poking out of my bag. I said “It’s for *name of other restaurant*”. He asked me why and I said “Because I feel like you guys treat me like shit.” And he said “Okay if you feel like that go ahead and clock out and go home.” And I was fired. Feeling very violated and angry. That is my personal property, plus what if I had just wanted to work two jobs? Is that even legal? Is there anything I can do? He has cameras but they are only accessible on his phone/app… I had never been written up here before. I was spoken to a few times bc they were trying to treat me like a manager without the proper compensation or title, and once was spoken to about my socks being the wrong color but that’s it. This is just so unfair… Any advice is appreciated. ETA: he is the owner and takes an even split of the tip pool every day. Also I am only 21 so I am a bit young/inexperienced with things like this… Edit 2: I will gladly share the name of this business as long as it will not hurt me in anyway for this lawsuit i am going to be filing. Edit 3: i wish i could include pictures. when i placed my purse in the office i made sure the application was stuck in there. my purse was not closed, however, the application was stuck in there enough as to not be showing. when he called me into the office the references section (which just had three names, where i knew them from and how many years i’ve known them) was sticking out clearly. that was the section that was on top when i left my purse alone. meaning he saw it and grabbed it to read more of it. to know it was a job application he would’ve had to read the section below it which mentions “employers” and other “job application related words”. i hope this makes sense. with no context this references could’ve been for anything. i hope this makes sense.
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Where are you located? If US you can start by filing for unemployment and you can file a wage claim for the tips.
> what if I had just wanted to work two jobs? Is that even legal? If you're at-will, it's legal for them to fire you over having a second job, yes. What he did was absolutely inappropriate but there's no legal action to take over it. Again, presuming at will, meaning you really can be fired for socks, or less than socks. The other stuff can be reported, but again this depends on location. The tips for example, that's wage theft.
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fired after my boss went through my purse. I have been working FOH at this restaurant for almost a year. Lately I had been wanting to quit due to a toxic misogynistic atmosphere. Today I was working, and I was going to be working tonight by myself bc we are understaffed and I am one of two employees who can close by myself. I had grabbed a job application to another job, had it filled out and was going to hand it in this morning, but I was running late, so I just shoved it in my purse to hand in tmr. Anyways, I was just making boxes with my coworker, and my boss was in the office doing something. He comes out and asks to speak to me. I go into the office and he says “What’s the job application in your purse”. I looked over to my purse and the little section where it has you fill out your references was poking out of my bag. I said “It’s for *name of other restaurant*”. He asked me why and I said “Because I feel like you guys treat me like shit.” And he said “Okay if you feel like that go ahead and clock out and go home.” And I was fired. Feeling very violated and angry. That is my personal property, plus what if I had just wanted to work two jobs? Is that even legal? Is there anything I can do? He has cameras but they are only accessible on his phone/app… I had never been written up here before. I was spoken to a few times bc they were trying to treat me like a manager without the proper compensation or title, and once was spoken to about my socks being the wrong color but that’s it. This is just so unfair… Any advice is appreciated. ETA: he is the owner and takes an even split of the tip pool every day. Also I am only 21 so I am a bit young/inexperienced with things like this… Edit 2: I will gladly share the name of this business as long as it will not hurt me in anyway for this lawsuit i am going to be filing. Edit 3: i wish i could include pictures. when i placed my purse in the office i made sure the application was stuck in there. my purse was not closed, however, the application was stuck in there enough as to not be showing. when he called me into the office the references section (which just had three names, where i knew them from and how many years i’ve known them) was sticking out clearly. that was the section that was on top when i left my purse alone. meaning he saw it and grabbed it to read more of it. to know it was a job application he would’ve had to read the section below it which mentions “employers” and other “job application related words”. i hope this makes sense. with no context this references could’ve been for anything. i hope this makes sense.
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Well for one thing its Illegal for employers to be taking any tips from your pool, so there's that.
File for unemployment
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fired after my boss went through my purse. I have been working FOH at this restaurant for almost a year. Lately I had been wanting to quit due to a toxic misogynistic atmosphere. Today I was working, and I was going to be working tonight by myself bc we are understaffed and I am one of two employees who can close by myself. I had grabbed a job application to another job, had it filled out and was going to hand it in this morning, but I was running late, so I just shoved it in my purse to hand in tmr. Anyways, I was just making boxes with my coworker, and my boss was in the office doing something. He comes out and asks to speak to me. I go into the office and he says “What’s the job application in your purse”. I looked over to my purse and the little section where it has you fill out your references was poking out of my bag. I said “It’s for *name of other restaurant*”. He asked me why and I said “Because I feel like you guys treat me like shit.” And he said “Okay if you feel like that go ahead and clock out and go home.” And I was fired. Feeling very violated and angry. That is my personal property, plus what if I had just wanted to work two jobs? Is that even legal? Is there anything I can do? He has cameras but they are only accessible on his phone/app… I had never been written up here before. I was spoken to a few times bc they were trying to treat me like a manager without the proper compensation or title, and once was spoken to about my socks being the wrong color but that’s it. This is just so unfair… Any advice is appreciated. ETA: he is the owner and takes an even split of the tip pool every day. Also I am only 21 so I am a bit young/inexperienced with things like this… Edit 2: I will gladly share the name of this business as long as it will not hurt me in anyway for this lawsuit i am going to be filing. Edit 3: i wish i could include pictures. when i placed my purse in the office i made sure the application was stuck in there. my purse was not closed, however, the application was stuck in there enough as to not be showing. when he called me into the office the references section (which just had three names, where i knew them from and how many years i’ve known them) was sticking out clearly. that was the section that was on top when i left my purse alone. meaning he saw it and grabbed it to read more of it. to know it was a job application he would’ve had to read the section below it which mentions “employers” and other “job application related words”. i hope this makes sense. with no context this references could’ve been for anything. i hope this makes sense.
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File for unemployment
Definitely file the wage claim. Wage claims will look back over a period and return all unpaid tips for that period. You might reach out to your coworkers and suggest they also file wage claims. Where was your purse located when he searched it? Can you reach out and ask other coworkers if they have ever seen said boss search through people's belongings? *Generally*, RI allows for employer searches, but it will be held to a reasonableness test balanced against your reasonable expectation of privacy, and searching an employee's purse without a specific reason may not pass that test. If your employer does not have a written policy about searches, and if your boss had no reason for a search, that would work against your boss. I would speak to an employment lawyer, but it's possible that even if you have a case, it's not financially worth pursuing, though it may be worth it bundled with your tip pool issue.
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fired after my boss went through my purse. I have been working FOH at this restaurant for almost a year. Lately I had been wanting to quit due to a toxic misogynistic atmosphere. Today I was working, and I was going to be working tonight by myself bc we are understaffed and I am one of two employees who can close by myself. I had grabbed a job application to another job, had it filled out and was going to hand it in this morning, but I was running late, so I just shoved it in my purse to hand in tmr. Anyways, I was just making boxes with my coworker, and my boss was in the office doing something. He comes out and asks to speak to me. I go into the office and he says “What’s the job application in your purse”. I looked over to my purse and the little section where it has you fill out your references was poking out of my bag. I said “It’s for *name of other restaurant*”. He asked me why and I said “Because I feel like you guys treat me like shit.” And he said “Okay if you feel like that go ahead and clock out and go home.” And I was fired. Feeling very violated and angry. That is my personal property, plus what if I had just wanted to work two jobs? Is that even legal? Is there anything I can do? He has cameras but they are only accessible on his phone/app… I had never been written up here before. I was spoken to a few times bc they were trying to treat me like a manager without the proper compensation or title, and once was spoken to about my socks being the wrong color but that’s it. This is just so unfair… Any advice is appreciated. ETA: he is the owner and takes an even split of the tip pool every day. Also I am only 21 so I am a bit young/inexperienced with things like this… Edit 2: I will gladly share the name of this business as long as it will not hurt me in anyway for this lawsuit i am going to be filing. Edit 3: i wish i could include pictures. when i placed my purse in the office i made sure the application was stuck in there. my purse was not closed, however, the application was stuck in there enough as to not be showing. when he called me into the office the references section (which just had three names, where i knew them from and how many years i’ve known them) was sticking out clearly. that was the section that was on top when i left my purse alone. meaning he saw it and grabbed it to read more of it. to know it was a job application he would’ve had to read the section below it which mentions “employers” and other “job application related words”. i hope this makes sense. with no context this references could’ve been for anything. i hope this makes sense.
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Be sure to leave a google review about going through your personal belongings. It may save someone from working there.
I will point out, because I saw "lawsuit", in case someone else hasn't, there's no guarantee that a coworker didn't do the digging, and strategically place the application poking out, and being in "plain sight", would probably be fair game for viewing, at least the visible section....
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fired after my boss went through my purse. I have been working FOH at this restaurant for almost a year. Lately I had been wanting to quit due to a toxic misogynistic atmosphere. Today I was working, and I was going to be working tonight by myself bc we are understaffed and I am one of two employees who can close by myself. I had grabbed a job application to another job, had it filled out and was going to hand it in this morning, but I was running late, so I just shoved it in my purse to hand in tmr. Anyways, I was just making boxes with my coworker, and my boss was in the office doing something. He comes out and asks to speak to me. I go into the office and he says “What’s the job application in your purse”. I looked over to my purse and the little section where it has you fill out your references was poking out of my bag. I said “It’s for *name of other restaurant*”. He asked me why and I said “Because I feel like you guys treat me like shit.” And he said “Okay if you feel like that go ahead and clock out and go home.” And I was fired. Feeling very violated and angry. That is my personal property, plus what if I had just wanted to work two jobs? Is that even legal? Is there anything I can do? He has cameras but they are only accessible on his phone/app… I had never been written up here before. I was spoken to a few times bc they were trying to treat me like a manager without the proper compensation or title, and once was spoken to about my socks being the wrong color but that’s it. This is just so unfair… Any advice is appreciated. ETA: he is the owner and takes an even split of the tip pool every day. Also I am only 21 so I am a bit young/inexperienced with things like this… Edit 2: I will gladly share the name of this business as long as it will not hurt me in anyway for this lawsuit i am going to be filing. Edit 3: i wish i could include pictures. when i placed my purse in the office i made sure the application was stuck in there. my purse was not closed, however, the application was stuck in there enough as to not be showing. when he called me into the office the references section (which just had three names, where i knew them from and how many years i’ve known them) was sticking out clearly. that was the section that was on top when i left my purse alone. meaning he saw it and grabbed it to read more of it. to know it was a job application he would’ve had to read the section below it which mentions “employers” and other “job application related words”. i hope this makes sense. with no context this references could’ve been for anything. i hope this makes sense.
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Be sure to leave a google review about going through your personal belongings. It may save someone from working there.
File for unemployment
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fired after my boss went through my purse. I have been working FOH at this restaurant for almost a year. Lately I had been wanting to quit due to a toxic misogynistic atmosphere. Today I was working, and I was going to be working tonight by myself bc we are understaffed and I am one of two employees who can close by myself. I had grabbed a job application to another job, had it filled out and was going to hand it in this morning, but I was running late, so I just shoved it in my purse to hand in tmr. Anyways, I was just making boxes with my coworker, and my boss was in the office doing something. He comes out and asks to speak to me. I go into the office and he says “What’s the job application in your purse”. I looked over to my purse and the little section where it has you fill out your references was poking out of my bag. I said “It’s for *name of other restaurant*”. He asked me why and I said “Because I feel like you guys treat me like shit.” And he said “Okay if you feel like that go ahead and clock out and go home.” And I was fired. Feeling very violated and angry. That is my personal property, plus what if I had just wanted to work two jobs? Is that even legal? Is there anything I can do? He has cameras but they are only accessible on his phone/app… I had never been written up here before. I was spoken to a few times bc they were trying to treat me like a manager without the proper compensation or title, and once was spoken to about my socks being the wrong color but that’s it. This is just so unfair… Any advice is appreciated. ETA: he is the owner and takes an even split of the tip pool every day. Also I am only 21 so I am a bit young/inexperienced with things like this… Edit 2: I will gladly share the name of this business as long as it will not hurt me in anyway for this lawsuit i am going to be filing. Edit 3: i wish i could include pictures. when i placed my purse in the office i made sure the application was stuck in there. my purse was not closed, however, the application was stuck in there enough as to not be showing. when he called me into the office the references section (which just had three names, where i knew them from and how many years i’ve known them) was sticking out clearly. that was the section that was on top when i left my purse alone. meaning he saw it and grabbed it to read more of it. to know it was a job application he would’ve had to read the section below it which mentions “employers” and other “job application related words”. i hope this makes sense. with no context this references could’ve been for anything. i hope this makes sense.
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I will point out, because I saw "lawsuit", in case someone else hasn't, there's no guarantee that a coworker didn't do the digging, and strategically place the application poking out, and being in "plain sight", would probably be fair game for viewing, at least the visible section....
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HELP! CarMax is buying back my car after the previous owner failed to transfer title I need your help! I bought my car this July from CarMax in California. I paid $23k cash for it, after tax, it was $25k. I got a temporary license plate and registration, and they are going to expire in October. CarMax called me recently informing me that the previous owner of my car has failed to transfer the title of their vehicle to me. With the temporary plate and registration set to expire soon, they are going to buy it back from me, or put that credit towards a new one in their store. California law REQUIRES them to buy the vehicle back from me in this situation. When I asked for their policy on this situation in writing (it was not included in my packet), they told me that they do not have a policy in writing. We did not sign any contract regarding the event that the title isn't transferred. The problem here is, the used car market has changed since this summer. A car of the same make and model, year, and mileage as my car which cost me $23k in July would be worth around $27k now. Carmax is offering me exactly what I paid in cash in July for my car, plus reimbursement for the minor upgrades I got for the car. If I take this offer, I would lose money. My question is, since CarMax is legally required to buy this car back from me, and we didn't sign any contract on this situation, can I sell the car to them for, say, $30k? $32k? How much can I ask for? Should I speak to a lawyer?
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If they aren’t trying to unwind the sale, and are truely buying the car, start high and negotiate.
Consider contacting your local DMV Investigation Office: https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/locations/investigations-offices/ It also looks like California Vehicle Code § 5753(e) puts CarMax on the hook for $25 / day up to $2,500 penalty for failing to deliver the title to you within 15 days -- you'll want to look into this. It appears you may even be able to get $7,500 if they fail to pay this within 60 days. There are likely a whole host of asterisks on these details, you'll probably want to see if you can find an attorney in CA who mostly handles cases like this. It seems that it's easy to find defense attorneys for this (for people charged with violating the vehicle code), if you can't find someone to start a civil action for you perhaps call one of these and ask if they can refer you to someone who can.
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HELP! CarMax is buying back my car after the previous owner failed to transfer title I need your help! I bought my car this July from CarMax in California. I paid $23k cash for it, after tax, it was $25k. I got a temporary license plate and registration, and they are going to expire in October. CarMax called me recently informing me that the previous owner of my car has failed to transfer the title of their vehicle to me. With the temporary plate and registration set to expire soon, they are going to buy it back from me, or put that credit towards a new one in their store. California law REQUIRES them to buy the vehicle back from me in this situation. When I asked for their policy on this situation in writing (it was not included in my packet), they told me that they do not have a policy in writing. We did not sign any contract regarding the event that the title isn't transferred. The problem here is, the used car market has changed since this summer. A car of the same make and model, year, and mileage as my car which cost me $23k in July would be worth around $27k now. Carmax is offering me exactly what I paid in cash in July for my car, plus reimbursement for the minor upgrades I got for the car. If I take this offer, I would lose money. My question is, since CarMax is legally required to buy this car back from me, and we didn't sign any contract on this situation, can I sell the car to them for, say, $30k? $32k? How much can I ask for? Should I speak to a lawyer?
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Consider contacting your local DMV Investigation Office: https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/locations/investigations-offices/ It also looks like California Vehicle Code § 5753(e) puts CarMax on the hook for $25 / day up to $2,500 penalty for failing to deliver the title to you within 15 days -- you'll want to look into this. It appears you may even be able to get $7,500 if they fail to pay this within 60 days. There are likely a whole host of asterisks on these details, you'll probably want to see if you can find an attorney in CA who mostly handles cases like this. It seems that it's easy to find defense attorneys for this (for people charged with violating the vehicle code), if you can't find someone to start a civil action for you perhaps call one of these and ask if they can refer you to someone who can.
They need to compensate you for everything, sales tax paid (unless they can somehow get that unwound with the state) and all of your other costs, including compensation for your time to deal with this hassle. They need to make you 100% whole and then some. If they don't, file against them for the balance in small claims court (and then they get to pay all your costs for that as well). The only thing that can reasonably be deducted by them is a small per mile cost (I'd say $0.20/mile max depending on the vehicle) for what you've driven since the sale.
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HELP! CarMax is buying back my car after the previous owner failed to transfer title I need your help! I bought my car this July from CarMax in California. I paid $23k cash for it, after tax, it was $25k. I got a temporary license plate and registration, and they are going to expire in October. CarMax called me recently informing me that the previous owner of my car has failed to transfer the title of their vehicle to me. With the temporary plate and registration set to expire soon, they are going to buy it back from me, or put that credit towards a new one in their store. California law REQUIRES them to buy the vehicle back from me in this situation. When I asked for their policy on this situation in writing (it was not included in my packet), they told me that they do not have a policy in writing. We did not sign any contract regarding the event that the title isn't transferred. The problem here is, the used car market has changed since this summer. A car of the same make and model, year, and mileage as my car which cost me $23k in July would be worth around $27k now. Carmax is offering me exactly what I paid in cash in July for my car, plus reimbursement for the minor upgrades I got for the car. If I take this offer, I would lose money. My question is, since CarMax is legally required to buy this car back from me, and we didn't sign any contract on this situation, can I sell the car to them for, say, $30k? $32k? How much can I ask for? Should I speak to a lawyer?
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Find a car on their website in $27k range and tell them you want to swap for it at no cost.
If they aren’t trying to unwind the sale, and are truely buying the car, start high and negotiate.
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HELP! CarMax is buying back my car after the previous owner failed to transfer title I need your help! I bought my car this July from CarMax in California. I paid $23k cash for it, after tax, it was $25k. I got a temporary license plate and registration, and they are going to expire in October. CarMax called me recently informing me that the previous owner of my car has failed to transfer the title of their vehicle to me. With the temporary plate and registration set to expire soon, they are going to buy it back from me, or put that credit towards a new one in their store. California law REQUIRES them to buy the vehicle back from me in this situation. When I asked for their policy on this situation in writing (it was not included in my packet), they told me that they do not have a policy in writing. We did not sign any contract regarding the event that the title isn't transferred. The problem here is, the used car market has changed since this summer. A car of the same make and model, year, and mileage as my car which cost me $23k in July would be worth around $27k now. Carmax is offering me exactly what I paid in cash in July for my car, plus reimbursement for the minor upgrades I got for the car. If I take this offer, I would lose money. My question is, since CarMax is legally required to buy this car back from me, and we didn't sign any contract on this situation, can I sell the car to them for, say, $30k? $32k? How much can I ask for? Should I speak to a lawyer?
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What I THINK is actually happening is they are trying to cover their ass. They bought a car from someone and never had the title transferred to them at the time of purchase? And then they sold you a car they didn't posses the title for? The dealership fucked up and are trying to cover themselves. The below may be useful to you: https://www.jag.navy.mil/legal\_services/documents/HANDOUT\_02\_AUTO\_BUYING\_TITLE\_REGISTRATION\_JUN\_2015.pdf If this is up to date, then then you have a major claim against the dealership for failing to be able to produce the title within the required timeline. I would use this situation to your advantage. Basically let them know you know they messed up. Also understand that it is not in your best interest to keep this car because you will never get a title issued for it and as such will never get it registered or insured. With the above you may be able to negotiate a higher payback or an inventory swap to a different car that is similar in size, build, and features.
Find a car on their website in $27k range and tell them you want to swap for it at no cost.
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HELP! CarMax is buying back my car after the previous owner failed to transfer title I need your help! I bought my car this July from CarMax in California. I paid $23k cash for it, after tax, it was $25k. I got a temporary license plate and registration, and they are going to expire in October. CarMax called me recently informing me that the previous owner of my car has failed to transfer the title of their vehicle to me. With the temporary plate and registration set to expire soon, they are going to buy it back from me, or put that credit towards a new one in their store. California law REQUIRES them to buy the vehicle back from me in this situation. When I asked for their policy on this situation in writing (it was not included in my packet), they told me that they do not have a policy in writing. We did not sign any contract regarding the event that the title isn't transferred. The problem here is, the used car market has changed since this summer. A car of the same make and model, year, and mileage as my car which cost me $23k in July would be worth around $27k now. Carmax is offering me exactly what I paid in cash in July for my car, plus reimbursement for the minor upgrades I got for the car. If I take this offer, I would lose money. My question is, since CarMax is legally required to buy this car back from me, and we didn't sign any contract on this situation, can I sell the car to them for, say, $30k? $32k? How much can I ask for? Should I speak to a lawyer?
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They need to compensate you for everything, sales tax paid (unless they can somehow get that unwound with the state) and all of your other costs, including compensation for your time to deal with this hassle. They need to make you 100% whole and then some. If they don't, file against them for the balance in small claims court (and then they get to pay all your costs for that as well). The only thing that can reasonably be deducted by them is a small per mile cost (I'd say $0.20/mile max depending on the vehicle) for what you've driven since the sale.
Find a car on their website in $27k range and tell them you want to swap for it at no cost.
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HELP! CarMax is buying back my car after the previous owner failed to transfer title I need your help! I bought my car this July from CarMax in California. I paid $23k cash for it, after tax, it was $25k. I got a temporary license plate and registration, and they are going to expire in October. CarMax called me recently informing me that the previous owner of my car has failed to transfer the title of their vehicle to me. With the temporary plate and registration set to expire soon, they are going to buy it back from me, or put that credit towards a new one in their store. California law REQUIRES them to buy the vehicle back from me in this situation. When I asked for their policy on this situation in writing (it was not included in my packet), they told me that they do not have a policy in writing. We did not sign any contract regarding the event that the title isn't transferred. The problem here is, the used car market has changed since this summer. A car of the same make and model, year, and mileage as my car which cost me $23k in July would be worth around $27k now. Carmax is offering me exactly what I paid in cash in July for my car, plus reimbursement for the minor upgrades I got for the car. If I take this offer, I would lose money. My question is, since CarMax is legally required to buy this car back from me, and we didn't sign any contract on this situation, can I sell the car to them for, say, $30k? $32k? How much can I ask for? Should I speak to a lawyer?
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What I THINK is actually happening is they are trying to cover their ass. They bought a car from someone and never had the title transferred to them at the time of purchase? And then they sold you a car they didn't posses the title for? The dealership fucked up and are trying to cover themselves. The below may be useful to you: https://www.jag.navy.mil/legal\_services/documents/HANDOUT\_02\_AUTO\_BUYING\_TITLE\_REGISTRATION\_JUN\_2015.pdf If this is up to date, then then you have a major claim against the dealership for failing to be able to produce the title within the required timeline. I would use this situation to your advantage. Basically let them know you know they messed up. Also understand that it is not in your best interest to keep this car because you will never get a title issued for it and as such will never get it registered or insured. With the above you may be able to negotiate a higher payback or an inventory swap to a different car that is similar in size, build, and features.
They need to compensate you for everything, sales tax paid (unless they can somehow get that unwound with the state) and all of your other costs, including compensation for your time to deal with this hassle. They need to make you 100% whole and then some. If they don't, file against them for the balance in small claims court (and then they get to pay all your costs for that as well). The only thing that can reasonably be deducted by them is a small per mile cost (I'd say $0.20/mile max depending on the vehicle) for what you've driven since the sale.
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I took in a dog that was being re-homed and previous owner wants it back bc I haven’t given her family on demand access to my home About 5 months ago I adopted a dog from an casual friend I knew back in my college days (I graduated in Winter of 2007 for reference). I had recently moved to the area for my fiancé’s job and would be home without much responsibility for the foreseeable future. My old “friend” happened to live within state. We had reconnected on social media and chatted a bit over the weeks as I was moving in. The subject of adopting her dog came up when she confided in me that her fiancé no longer had patience for the dog since they were living in a small one bedroom apartment with a newborn and 18 month old. Anyway, I was told that she was giving the dog away to an ex boyfriend who had a condition of adoption that would prohibit her from contacting him or trying to see the dog. I thought that was harsh and offered to take her and casually mentioned that since we were friendly it was still possible for her to see the dog when we had plans or got together. Anyway, fast-forward about 3 days and she decided that her whole family would come spend a Saturday at my house with the intention of leaving the dog and make sure she got along with my dog. However her toddler tormented both dogs to the point they wouldn’t come out from under the bed. The dogs got zero time to actually interact where we can observe them bc they were both terrified of her child. Honestly, the dogs weren’t the only ones, the kid destroyed my house all day and she didn’t even try to stop him. Now lunch is over and they booked it out of here without the dog at the end of a tiresome day. She leaves me a bag of the dogs belongings and some paperwork (blanket, bed, leash, what was left of her dog food). I sent pics and updates of her adjusting to her new life to be decent about it and she sent texts back saying it’s nice to see her girl “safe and at peace” bc it was “not a good situation” for her previously. A few weeks pass and she wants to visit, I say sure if the kids can stay with their father, come one over for a little while. But the entire first floor of my house is under construction and it’s not a toddler friendly set up at the moment. The response is a mixed bag of excuses why she can’t visit alone (her fiancé won’t let her drive alone) and cringeworthy texts basically trying to say the whole family should come visit and hey with the rising cost of living and some crazy world is ending conspiracy jargon, they should just stay with us and they we provide the living space and they provide having “lots of guns” 😳… THAT’S A HARD NO. What freaked me out more is that was lined up with a date she was supposed to get evicted, so I made it clear that I was in the middle of pretty serious renovations and under no circumstance would be having wild toddlers in that environment, as it is not safe. And just plain NO to the half-joking suggestion that I should be opening my doors to that insanity- not my problem. I know that might sound paranoid but I’m unfamiliar with laws in my new state, but back in NY I have had to go through a full eviction bc a friend came to spend the weekend and then refused to leave, police were called bc it got bad and I was directed to the court system to evict this person at my expense. So I am not taking any chances. Then yesterday, I get a barrage of unhinged voice messages on Facebook messenger that she hasn’t been able to come here and see the dog as much as she wants to and her other kids that she doesn’t even have custody of miss the dog and have the right to see it when they want too and she needs to see it today (last night). I declined bc I told her the way she was lashing out made me uncomfortable and I don’t want her in my home like this and that’s when she started threatening to come take the dog. I stood my ground and said that she can take me to court bc I’ve invested a lot of time and money and emotion into this dog and my dog has grown so attached to her that it’s unfair for her to just come take her away from a really good life bc I can’t host her family at the drop of a dime. I’ve offered her to come see the dog alone on multiple occasions and she says she’s not allowed to drive alone that far (1 freakin hour). To be clear: I was nice enough to tell her she could see the dog when we did have plans together but I never said that she, her fiancé and 4 kids can just demand to come over anytime they feel like it. Am I obligated to give regular dog visitation? Is that a thing? And do I have to give the dog back? She’s been here for almost half a year and we’ve made so much progress with her … now I’m terrified she’s going to harass me or try to stir up trouble (based on getting over 200 texts in the span of 90 min, long after I stopped replying).
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You are not obligated to facilitate this person's intrusion on your life. You own the dog now, legally. If they decide to pursue the return of the dog in court, you are allowed to request the amount you spent on care, boarding, and veterinary in compensation for your time. Most people would turn away upon seeing it's going to cost them $1k to get their dog back, plus legal fees.
> Am I obligated to give regular dog visitation? Is that a thing? And do I have to give the dog back? No, no, no. Frankly, I’d just block her/private my social media and invest in a home security system. Your location may be relevant.
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I took in a dog that was being re-homed and previous owner wants it back bc I haven’t given her family on demand access to my home About 5 months ago I adopted a dog from an casual friend I knew back in my college days (I graduated in Winter of 2007 for reference). I had recently moved to the area for my fiancé’s job and would be home without much responsibility for the foreseeable future. My old “friend” happened to live within state. We had reconnected on social media and chatted a bit over the weeks as I was moving in. The subject of adopting her dog came up when she confided in me that her fiancé no longer had patience for the dog since they were living in a small one bedroom apartment with a newborn and 18 month old. Anyway, I was told that she was giving the dog away to an ex boyfriend who had a condition of adoption that would prohibit her from contacting him or trying to see the dog. I thought that was harsh and offered to take her and casually mentioned that since we were friendly it was still possible for her to see the dog when we had plans or got together. Anyway, fast-forward about 3 days and she decided that her whole family would come spend a Saturday at my house with the intention of leaving the dog and make sure she got along with my dog. However her toddler tormented both dogs to the point they wouldn’t come out from under the bed. The dogs got zero time to actually interact where we can observe them bc they were both terrified of her child. Honestly, the dogs weren’t the only ones, the kid destroyed my house all day and she didn’t even try to stop him. Now lunch is over and they booked it out of here without the dog at the end of a tiresome day. She leaves me a bag of the dogs belongings and some paperwork (blanket, bed, leash, what was left of her dog food). I sent pics and updates of her adjusting to her new life to be decent about it and she sent texts back saying it’s nice to see her girl “safe and at peace” bc it was “not a good situation” for her previously. A few weeks pass and she wants to visit, I say sure if the kids can stay with their father, come one over for a little while. But the entire first floor of my house is under construction and it’s not a toddler friendly set up at the moment. The response is a mixed bag of excuses why she can’t visit alone (her fiancé won’t let her drive alone) and cringeworthy texts basically trying to say the whole family should come visit and hey with the rising cost of living and some crazy world is ending conspiracy jargon, they should just stay with us and they we provide the living space and they provide having “lots of guns” 😳… THAT’S A HARD NO. What freaked me out more is that was lined up with a date she was supposed to get evicted, so I made it clear that I was in the middle of pretty serious renovations and under no circumstance would be having wild toddlers in that environment, as it is not safe. And just plain NO to the half-joking suggestion that I should be opening my doors to that insanity- not my problem. I know that might sound paranoid but I’m unfamiliar with laws in my new state, but back in NY I have had to go through a full eviction bc a friend came to spend the weekend and then refused to leave, police were called bc it got bad and I was directed to the court system to evict this person at my expense. So I am not taking any chances. Then yesterday, I get a barrage of unhinged voice messages on Facebook messenger that she hasn’t been able to come here and see the dog as much as she wants to and her other kids that she doesn’t even have custody of miss the dog and have the right to see it when they want too and she needs to see it today (last night). I declined bc I told her the way she was lashing out made me uncomfortable and I don’t want her in my home like this and that’s when she started threatening to come take the dog. I stood my ground and said that she can take me to court bc I’ve invested a lot of time and money and emotion into this dog and my dog has grown so attached to her that it’s unfair for her to just come take her away from a really good life bc I can’t host her family at the drop of a dime. I’ve offered her to come see the dog alone on multiple occasions and she says she’s not allowed to drive alone that far (1 freakin hour). To be clear: I was nice enough to tell her she could see the dog when we did have plans together but I never said that she, her fiancé and 4 kids can just demand to come over anytime they feel like it. Am I obligated to give regular dog visitation? Is that a thing? And do I have to give the dog back? She’s been here for almost half a year and we’ve made so much progress with her … now I’m terrified she’s going to harass me or try to stir up trouble (based on getting over 200 texts in the span of 90 min, long after I stopped replying).
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You are not obligated to facilitate this person's intrusion on your life. You own the dog now, legally. If they decide to pursue the return of the dog in court, you are allowed to request the amount you spent on care, boarding, and veterinary in compensation for your time. Most people would turn away upon seeing it's going to cost them $1k to get their dog back, plus legal fees.
This has all the makings of potential insanity. Like, "Javier Bardiem should never have let Ed Harris in the house, because now Kristin Wiig is here" insanity. Do not let them in. Tell them there will be no more visits to your house; and that moving in is out of the question. Ideally you will block them, but if they want to see the dog and you're willing to let them, you will meet them in the middle at a public park, and *bring some friends.* Remember that "No" is a complete sentence, and so is, "I cannot accommodate that request." But to be honest, saying, "Your child does not know how to safely handle dogs, and that is not something I can allow" is a very valid reason. And for the love of all, if you have not yet microchipped the dog, do it *today.* Then lock it down with a password so no one can change the info with the chip company.
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I took in a dog that was being re-homed and previous owner wants it back bc I haven’t given her family on demand access to my home About 5 months ago I adopted a dog from an casual friend I knew back in my college days (I graduated in Winter of 2007 for reference). I had recently moved to the area for my fiancé’s job and would be home without much responsibility for the foreseeable future. My old “friend” happened to live within state. We had reconnected on social media and chatted a bit over the weeks as I was moving in. The subject of adopting her dog came up when she confided in me that her fiancé no longer had patience for the dog since they were living in a small one bedroom apartment with a newborn and 18 month old. Anyway, I was told that she was giving the dog away to an ex boyfriend who had a condition of adoption that would prohibit her from contacting him or trying to see the dog. I thought that was harsh and offered to take her and casually mentioned that since we were friendly it was still possible for her to see the dog when we had plans or got together. Anyway, fast-forward about 3 days and she decided that her whole family would come spend a Saturday at my house with the intention of leaving the dog and make sure she got along with my dog. However her toddler tormented both dogs to the point they wouldn’t come out from under the bed. The dogs got zero time to actually interact where we can observe them bc they were both terrified of her child. Honestly, the dogs weren’t the only ones, the kid destroyed my house all day and she didn’t even try to stop him. Now lunch is over and they booked it out of here without the dog at the end of a tiresome day. She leaves me a bag of the dogs belongings and some paperwork (blanket, bed, leash, what was left of her dog food). I sent pics and updates of her adjusting to her new life to be decent about it and she sent texts back saying it’s nice to see her girl “safe and at peace” bc it was “not a good situation” for her previously. A few weeks pass and she wants to visit, I say sure if the kids can stay with their father, come one over for a little while. But the entire first floor of my house is under construction and it’s not a toddler friendly set up at the moment. The response is a mixed bag of excuses why she can’t visit alone (her fiancé won’t let her drive alone) and cringeworthy texts basically trying to say the whole family should come visit and hey with the rising cost of living and some crazy world is ending conspiracy jargon, they should just stay with us and they we provide the living space and they provide having “lots of guns” 😳… THAT’S A HARD NO. What freaked me out more is that was lined up with a date she was supposed to get evicted, so I made it clear that I was in the middle of pretty serious renovations and under no circumstance would be having wild toddlers in that environment, as it is not safe. And just plain NO to the half-joking suggestion that I should be opening my doors to that insanity- not my problem. I know that might sound paranoid but I’m unfamiliar with laws in my new state, but back in NY I have had to go through a full eviction bc a friend came to spend the weekend and then refused to leave, police were called bc it got bad and I was directed to the court system to evict this person at my expense. So I am not taking any chances. Then yesterday, I get a barrage of unhinged voice messages on Facebook messenger that she hasn’t been able to come here and see the dog as much as she wants to and her other kids that she doesn’t even have custody of miss the dog and have the right to see it when they want too and she needs to see it today (last night). I declined bc I told her the way she was lashing out made me uncomfortable and I don’t want her in my home like this and that’s when she started threatening to come take the dog. I stood my ground and said that she can take me to court bc I’ve invested a lot of time and money and emotion into this dog and my dog has grown so attached to her that it’s unfair for her to just come take her away from a really good life bc I can’t host her family at the drop of a dime. I’ve offered her to come see the dog alone on multiple occasions and she says she’s not allowed to drive alone that far (1 freakin hour). To be clear: I was nice enough to tell her she could see the dog when we did have plans together but I never said that she, her fiancé and 4 kids can just demand to come over anytime they feel like it. Am I obligated to give regular dog visitation? Is that a thing? And do I have to give the dog back? She’s been here for almost half a year and we’ve made so much progress with her … now I’m terrified she’s going to harass me or try to stir up trouble (based on getting over 200 texts in the span of 90 min, long after I stopped replying).
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Not a lawyer but from the 100s texts etc would a restraining order be a potential option. They sound unhinged and I understand why the ex had this stipulation when offering!
"What freaked me out more is that was lined up with a date she was supposed to get evicted..." "I know that might sound paranoid but..." i think your intuition was correct and you dodged a big one there. the excuses would start building up why they can return to their home. you would be stuck with them until the eviction process is complete. you would be stressed living with them and out of pocket paying an attorney. it almost seems daily we get a post on here from homeowners about a guest overstaying their welcome. i'm not an attorney but i think the feedback here is correct. in addition, if they were getting evicted, i doubt they have the resources to hire an attorney or take care of a dog.
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I took in a dog that was being re-homed and previous owner wants it back bc I haven’t given her family on demand access to my home About 5 months ago I adopted a dog from an casual friend I knew back in my college days (I graduated in Winter of 2007 for reference). I had recently moved to the area for my fiancé’s job and would be home without much responsibility for the foreseeable future. My old “friend” happened to live within state. We had reconnected on social media and chatted a bit over the weeks as I was moving in. The subject of adopting her dog came up when she confided in me that her fiancé no longer had patience for the dog since they were living in a small one bedroom apartment with a newborn and 18 month old. Anyway, I was told that she was giving the dog away to an ex boyfriend who had a condition of adoption that would prohibit her from contacting him or trying to see the dog. I thought that was harsh and offered to take her and casually mentioned that since we were friendly it was still possible for her to see the dog when we had plans or got together. Anyway, fast-forward about 3 days and she decided that her whole family would come spend a Saturday at my house with the intention of leaving the dog and make sure she got along with my dog. However her toddler tormented both dogs to the point they wouldn’t come out from under the bed. The dogs got zero time to actually interact where we can observe them bc they were both terrified of her child. Honestly, the dogs weren’t the only ones, the kid destroyed my house all day and she didn’t even try to stop him. Now lunch is over and they booked it out of here without the dog at the end of a tiresome day. She leaves me a bag of the dogs belongings and some paperwork (blanket, bed, leash, what was left of her dog food). I sent pics and updates of her adjusting to her new life to be decent about it and she sent texts back saying it’s nice to see her girl “safe and at peace” bc it was “not a good situation” for her previously. A few weeks pass and she wants to visit, I say sure if the kids can stay with their father, come one over for a little while. But the entire first floor of my house is under construction and it’s not a toddler friendly set up at the moment. The response is a mixed bag of excuses why she can’t visit alone (her fiancé won’t let her drive alone) and cringeworthy texts basically trying to say the whole family should come visit and hey with the rising cost of living and some crazy world is ending conspiracy jargon, they should just stay with us and they we provide the living space and they provide having “lots of guns” 😳… THAT’S A HARD NO. What freaked me out more is that was lined up with a date she was supposed to get evicted, so I made it clear that I was in the middle of pretty serious renovations and under no circumstance would be having wild toddlers in that environment, as it is not safe. And just plain NO to the half-joking suggestion that I should be opening my doors to that insanity- not my problem. I know that might sound paranoid but I’m unfamiliar with laws in my new state, but back in NY I have had to go through a full eviction bc a friend came to spend the weekend and then refused to leave, police were called bc it got bad and I was directed to the court system to evict this person at my expense. So I am not taking any chances. Then yesterday, I get a barrage of unhinged voice messages on Facebook messenger that she hasn’t been able to come here and see the dog as much as she wants to and her other kids that she doesn’t even have custody of miss the dog and have the right to see it when they want too and she needs to see it today (last night). I declined bc I told her the way she was lashing out made me uncomfortable and I don’t want her in my home like this and that’s when she started threatening to come take the dog. I stood my ground and said that she can take me to court bc I’ve invested a lot of time and money and emotion into this dog and my dog has grown so attached to her that it’s unfair for her to just come take her away from a really good life bc I can’t host her family at the drop of a dime. I’ve offered her to come see the dog alone on multiple occasions and she says she’s not allowed to drive alone that far (1 freakin hour). To be clear: I was nice enough to tell her she could see the dog when we did have plans together but I never said that she, her fiancé and 4 kids can just demand to come over anytime they feel like it. Am I obligated to give regular dog visitation? Is that a thing? And do I have to give the dog back? She’s been here for almost half a year and we’ve made so much progress with her … now I’m terrified she’s going to harass me or try to stir up trouble (based on getting over 200 texts in the span of 90 min, long after I stopped replying).
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Barring any contractual agreement, dogs are property. She gave you the dog, and it is now yours, there is no obligation to visitation whatsoever.
"What freaked me out more is that was lined up with a date she was supposed to get evicted..." "I know that might sound paranoid but..." i think your intuition was correct and you dodged a big one there. the excuses would start building up why they can return to their home. you would be stuck with them until the eviction process is complete. you would be stressed living with them and out of pocket paying an attorney. it almost seems daily we get a post on here from homeowners about a guest overstaying their welcome. i'm not an attorney but i think the feedback here is correct. in addition, if they were getting evicted, i doubt they have the resources to hire an attorney or take care of a dog.
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I took in a dog that was being re-homed and previous owner wants it back bc I haven’t given her family on demand access to my home About 5 months ago I adopted a dog from an casual friend I knew back in my college days (I graduated in Winter of 2007 for reference). I had recently moved to the area for my fiancé’s job and would be home without much responsibility for the foreseeable future. My old “friend” happened to live within state. We had reconnected on social media and chatted a bit over the weeks as I was moving in. The subject of adopting her dog came up when she confided in me that her fiancé no longer had patience for the dog since they were living in a small one bedroom apartment with a newborn and 18 month old. Anyway, I was told that she was giving the dog away to an ex boyfriend who had a condition of adoption that would prohibit her from contacting him or trying to see the dog. I thought that was harsh and offered to take her and casually mentioned that since we were friendly it was still possible for her to see the dog when we had plans or got together. Anyway, fast-forward about 3 days and she decided that her whole family would come spend a Saturday at my house with the intention of leaving the dog and make sure she got along with my dog. However her toddler tormented both dogs to the point they wouldn’t come out from under the bed. The dogs got zero time to actually interact where we can observe them bc they were both terrified of her child. Honestly, the dogs weren’t the only ones, the kid destroyed my house all day and she didn’t even try to stop him. Now lunch is over and they booked it out of here without the dog at the end of a tiresome day. She leaves me a bag of the dogs belongings and some paperwork (blanket, bed, leash, what was left of her dog food). I sent pics and updates of her adjusting to her new life to be decent about it and she sent texts back saying it’s nice to see her girl “safe and at peace” bc it was “not a good situation” for her previously. A few weeks pass and she wants to visit, I say sure if the kids can stay with their father, come one over for a little while. But the entire first floor of my house is under construction and it’s not a toddler friendly set up at the moment. The response is a mixed bag of excuses why she can’t visit alone (her fiancé won’t let her drive alone) and cringeworthy texts basically trying to say the whole family should come visit and hey with the rising cost of living and some crazy world is ending conspiracy jargon, they should just stay with us and they we provide the living space and they provide having “lots of guns” 😳… THAT’S A HARD NO. What freaked me out more is that was lined up with a date she was supposed to get evicted, so I made it clear that I was in the middle of pretty serious renovations and under no circumstance would be having wild toddlers in that environment, as it is not safe. And just plain NO to the half-joking suggestion that I should be opening my doors to that insanity- not my problem. I know that might sound paranoid but I’m unfamiliar with laws in my new state, but back in NY I have had to go through a full eviction bc a friend came to spend the weekend and then refused to leave, police were called bc it got bad and I was directed to the court system to evict this person at my expense. So I am not taking any chances. Then yesterday, I get a barrage of unhinged voice messages on Facebook messenger that she hasn’t been able to come here and see the dog as much as she wants to and her other kids that she doesn’t even have custody of miss the dog and have the right to see it when they want too and she needs to see it today (last night). I declined bc I told her the way she was lashing out made me uncomfortable and I don’t want her in my home like this and that’s when she started threatening to come take the dog. I stood my ground and said that she can take me to court bc I’ve invested a lot of time and money and emotion into this dog and my dog has grown so attached to her that it’s unfair for her to just come take her away from a really good life bc I can’t host her family at the drop of a dime. I’ve offered her to come see the dog alone on multiple occasions and she says she’s not allowed to drive alone that far (1 freakin hour). To be clear: I was nice enough to tell her she could see the dog when we did have plans together but I never said that she, her fiancé and 4 kids can just demand to come over anytime they feel like it. Am I obligated to give regular dog visitation? Is that a thing? And do I have to give the dog back? She’s been here for almost half a year and we’ve made so much progress with her … now I’m terrified she’s going to harass me or try to stir up trouble (based on getting over 200 texts in the span of 90 min, long after I stopped replying).
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"What freaked me out more is that was lined up with a date she was supposed to get evicted..." "I know that might sound paranoid but..." i think your intuition was correct and you dodged a big one there. the excuses would start building up why they can return to their home. you would be stuck with them until the eviction process is complete. you would be stressed living with them and out of pocket paying an attorney. it almost seems daily we get a post on here from homeowners about a guest overstaying their welcome. i'm not an attorney but i think the feedback here is correct. in addition, if they were getting evicted, i doubt they have the resources to hire an attorney or take care of a dog.
Screenshot/document everything, in case court is necessary.
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I took in a dog that was being re-homed and previous owner wants it back bc I haven’t given her family on demand access to my home About 5 months ago I adopted a dog from an casual friend I knew back in my college days (I graduated in Winter of 2007 for reference). I had recently moved to the area for my fiancé’s job and would be home without much responsibility for the foreseeable future. My old “friend” happened to live within state. We had reconnected on social media and chatted a bit over the weeks as I was moving in. The subject of adopting her dog came up when she confided in me that her fiancé no longer had patience for the dog since they were living in a small one bedroom apartment with a newborn and 18 month old. Anyway, I was told that she was giving the dog away to an ex boyfriend who had a condition of adoption that would prohibit her from contacting him or trying to see the dog. I thought that was harsh and offered to take her and casually mentioned that since we were friendly it was still possible for her to see the dog when we had plans or got together. Anyway, fast-forward about 3 days and she decided that her whole family would come spend a Saturday at my house with the intention of leaving the dog and make sure she got along with my dog. However her toddler tormented both dogs to the point they wouldn’t come out from under the bed. The dogs got zero time to actually interact where we can observe them bc they were both terrified of her child. Honestly, the dogs weren’t the only ones, the kid destroyed my house all day and she didn’t even try to stop him. Now lunch is over and they booked it out of here without the dog at the end of a tiresome day. She leaves me a bag of the dogs belongings and some paperwork (blanket, bed, leash, what was left of her dog food). I sent pics and updates of her adjusting to her new life to be decent about it and she sent texts back saying it’s nice to see her girl “safe and at peace” bc it was “not a good situation” for her previously. A few weeks pass and she wants to visit, I say sure if the kids can stay with their father, come one over for a little while. But the entire first floor of my house is under construction and it’s not a toddler friendly set up at the moment. The response is a mixed bag of excuses why she can’t visit alone (her fiancé won’t let her drive alone) and cringeworthy texts basically trying to say the whole family should come visit and hey with the rising cost of living and some crazy world is ending conspiracy jargon, they should just stay with us and they we provide the living space and they provide having “lots of guns” 😳… THAT’S A HARD NO. What freaked me out more is that was lined up with a date she was supposed to get evicted, so I made it clear that I was in the middle of pretty serious renovations and under no circumstance would be having wild toddlers in that environment, as it is not safe. And just plain NO to the half-joking suggestion that I should be opening my doors to that insanity- not my problem. I know that might sound paranoid but I’m unfamiliar with laws in my new state, but back in NY I have had to go through a full eviction bc a friend came to spend the weekend and then refused to leave, police were called bc it got bad and I was directed to the court system to evict this person at my expense. So I am not taking any chances. Then yesterday, I get a barrage of unhinged voice messages on Facebook messenger that she hasn’t been able to come here and see the dog as much as she wants to and her other kids that she doesn’t even have custody of miss the dog and have the right to see it when they want too and she needs to see it today (last night). I declined bc I told her the way she was lashing out made me uncomfortable and I don’t want her in my home like this and that’s when she started threatening to come take the dog. I stood my ground and said that she can take me to court bc I’ve invested a lot of time and money and emotion into this dog and my dog has grown so attached to her that it’s unfair for her to just come take her away from a really good life bc I can’t host her family at the drop of a dime. I’ve offered her to come see the dog alone on multiple occasions and she says she’s not allowed to drive alone that far (1 freakin hour). To be clear: I was nice enough to tell her she could see the dog when we did have plans together but I never said that she, her fiancé and 4 kids can just demand to come over anytime they feel like it. Am I obligated to give regular dog visitation? Is that a thing? And do I have to give the dog back? She’s been here for almost half a year and we’ve made so much progress with her … now I’m terrified she’s going to harass me or try to stir up trouble (based on getting over 200 texts in the span of 90 min, long after I stopped replying).
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"What freaked me out more is that was lined up with a date she was supposed to get evicted..." "I know that might sound paranoid but..." i think your intuition was correct and you dodged a big one there. the excuses would start building up why they can return to their home. you would be stuck with them until the eviction process is complete. you would be stressed living with them and out of pocket paying an attorney. it almost seems daily we get a post on here from homeowners about a guest overstaying their welcome. i'm not an attorney but i think the feedback here is correct. in addition, if they were getting evicted, i doubt they have the resources to hire an attorney or take care of a dog.
animals are possessions and gifts are gifts. If you can substantiate that you were given a gift, then it's yours. She would have to get a lawyer and try to sue to get the dog returned under some legal theory. She can sue, but it would be really expensive for both sides. If you have proof that the dog was a gift, keep it safe, organize it and prepare to give it to your attorney if it comes to that. Likely it won't. But keep the messages your exchanged and take notes about any voice conversations or record them is you are in a single party consent state. Keep a log. This will likely go away quickly.
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I took in a dog that was being re-homed and previous owner wants it back bc I haven’t given her family on demand access to my home About 5 months ago I adopted a dog from an casual friend I knew back in my college days (I graduated in Winter of 2007 for reference). I had recently moved to the area for my fiancé’s job and would be home without much responsibility for the foreseeable future. My old “friend” happened to live within state. We had reconnected on social media and chatted a bit over the weeks as I was moving in. The subject of adopting her dog came up when she confided in me that her fiancé no longer had patience for the dog since they were living in a small one bedroom apartment with a newborn and 18 month old. Anyway, I was told that she was giving the dog away to an ex boyfriend who had a condition of adoption that would prohibit her from contacting him or trying to see the dog. I thought that was harsh and offered to take her and casually mentioned that since we were friendly it was still possible for her to see the dog when we had plans or got together. Anyway, fast-forward about 3 days and she decided that her whole family would come spend a Saturday at my house with the intention of leaving the dog and make sure she got along with my dog. However her toddler tormented both dogs to the point they wouldn’t come out from under the bed. The dogs got zero time to actually interact where we can observe them bc they were both terrified of her child. Honestly, the dogs weren’t the only ones, the kid destroyed my house all day and she didn’t even try to stop him. Now lunch is over and they booked it out of here without the dog at the end of a tiresome day. She leaves me a bag of the dogs belongings and some paperwork (blanket, bed, leash, what was left of her dog food). I sent pics and updates of her adjusting to her new life to be decent about it and she sent texts back saying it’s nice to see her girl “safe and at peace” bc it was “not a good situation” for her previously. A few weeks pass and she wants to visit, I say sure if the kids can stay with their father, come one over for a little while. But the entire first floor of my house is under construction and it’s not a toddler friendly set up at the moment. The response is a mixed bag of excuses why she can’t visit alone (her fiancé won’t let her drive alone) and cringeworthy texts basically trying to say the whole family should come visit and hey with the rising cost of living and some crazy world is ending conspiracy jargon, they should just stay with us and they we provide the living space and they provide having “lots of guns” 😳… THAT’S A HARD NO. What freaked me out more is that was lined up with a date she was supposed to get evicted, so I made it clear that I was in the middle of pretty serious renovations and under no circumstance would be having wild toddlers in that environment, as it is not safe. And just plain NO to the half-joking suggestion that I should be opening my doors to that insanity- not my problem. I know that might sound paranoid but I’m unfamiliar with laws in my new state, but back in NY I have had to go through a full eviction bc a friend came to spend the weekend and then refused to leave, police were called bc it got bad and I was directed to the court system to evict this person at my expense. So I am not taking any chances. Then yesterday, I get a barrage of unhinged voice messages on Facebook messenger that she hasn’t been able to come here and see the dog as much as she wants to and her other kids that she doesn’t even have custody of miss the dog and have the right to see it when they want too and she needs to see it today (last night). I declined bc I told her the way she was lashing out made me uncomfortable and I don’t want her in my home like this and that’s when she started threatening to come take the dog. I stood my ground and said that she can take me to court bc I’ve invested a lot of time and money and emotion into this dog and my dog has grown so attached to her that it’s unfair for her to just come take her away from a really good life bc I can’t host her family at the drop of a dime. I’ve offered her to come see the dog alone on multiple occasions and she says she’s not allowed to drive alone that far (1 freakin hour). To be clear: I was nice enough to tell her she could see the dog when we did have plans together but I never said that she, her fiancé and 4 kids can just demand to come over anytime they feel like it. Am I obligated to give regular dog visitation? Is that a thing? And do I have to give the dog back? She’s been here for almost half a year and we’ve made so much progress with her … now I’m terrified she’s going to harass me or try to stir up trouble (based on getting over 200 texts in the span of 90 min, long after I stopped replying).
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Barring any contractual agreement, dogs are property. She gave you the dog, and it is now yours, there is no obligation to visitation whatsoever.
Not a lawyer but from the 100s texts etc would a restraining order be a potential option. They sound unhinged and I understand why the ex had this stipulation when offering!
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[WA] Soon to be ex-wife took pictures of my private medical discharge paperwork and is sending it to family and friends. After being in an accident a few days ago I was brought to the hospital, checked out, and released the same day. My wife, who was adamant about getting the medical report as she suspected that I was on something at the time, snuck into my room at night, stole the discharge papers, took pictures, and then brought them back. She then proceeded to send these pictures to her lawyer, my family, and friends. Does this not violate HIPAA? I gave her no permission to view or take pictures of my medical records.
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Consult a lawyer. This is beyond the scope of this sub. HIPPA does not apply to your wife but she may have violated a law in stealing your confidential medical paperwork.
Bummer. I'm assuming you were under the influence of something or she wouldn't have sent the pics around. Is there going to be a child custody fight? Because if just a divorce drug use probably not super relevant.
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[WA] Soon to be ex-wife took pictures of my private medical discharge paperwork and is sending it to family and friends. After being in an accident a few days ago I was brought to the hospital, checked out, and released the same day. My wife, who was adamant about getting the medical report as she suspected that I was on something at the time, snuck into my room at night, stole the discharge papers, took pictures, and then brought them back. She then proceeded to send these pictures to her lawyer, my family, and friends. Does this not violate HIPAA? I gave her no permission to view or take pictures of my medical records.
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you might have a cause of action for public disclosure of private facts and another for IIED, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Consult a lawyer. This is beyond the scope of this sub. HIPPA does not apply to your wife but she may have violated a law in stealing your confidential medical paperwork.
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[WA] Soon to be ex-wife took pictures of my private medical discharge paperwork and is sending it to family and friends. After being in an accident a few days ago I was brought to the hospital, checked out, and released the same day. My wife, who was adamant about getting the medical report as she suspected that I was on something at the time, snuck into my room at night, stole the discharge papers, took pictures, and then brought them back. She then proceeded to send these pictures to her lawyer, my family, and friends. Does this not violate HIPAA? I gave her no permission to view or take pictures of my medical records.
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Bummer. I'm assuming you were under the influence of something or she wouldn't have sent the pics around. Is there going to be a child custody fight? Because if just a divorce drug use probably not super relevant.
you might have a cause of action for public disclosure of private facts and another for IIED, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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[WA] Soon to be ex-wife took pictures of my private medical discharge paperwork and is sending it to family and friends. After being in an accident a few days ago I was brought to the hospital, checked out, and released the same day. My wife, who was adamant about getting the medical report as she suspected that I was on something at the time, snuck into my room at night, stole the discharge papers, took pictures, and then brought them back. She then proceeded to send these pictures to her lawyer, my family, and friends. Does this not violate HIPAA? I gave her no permission to view or take pictures of my medical records.
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HIPAA would only apply to this specific circumstance if they had released medical records to her without your permission. But since she is your wife and you are living in the same household, it is your job to secure the records to ensure that she doesn't get her hands on them and isn't that could be legally prosecuted against her. If it were something illegal that she couldn't do her lawyer would have known and refused the acceptance of the documents. Once you leave the hospital with discharge papers you're responsible for what happens to those discharge papers. Had the hospital giving her the discharge papers without your permission then you could claim that they violated HIPAA and go directly after the hospital but you still would not be able to go after her because the healthcare institution would be the one who had illegally released your information.
you might have a cause of action for public disclosure of private facts and another for IIED, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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[Australia] An (ex)friend of my mothers went through our garbage, taking my mum's personal diaries and gave them to her ex-husband who is now emailing them to his and her group of friends. What can I do? Context - My parents broke up a few years ago, I stay exclusively with my mum (father is an dick). He is a real piece of work and refuses to pay for anything in my life including school fees so my single working mum is doing her best to support us. My 18th birthday is coming up in about a month and I assume he knows he won't be able to try to get involved with my life unless I decide so (which I doubt I will). A (now ex) friend of my mothers went through our trash and stole some old diaries of my mothers. He then gave them to my father who scanned them into his computer and is emailing them to a group of friends (many of which are still friends with my mum) in an effort to shame her I guess. These diaries are incredibly personal and I find it despicable behaviour, I would just like to know my own/mums options as her life is hard enough already especially without all her friends and other people knowing her personal thoughts. Thanks!
dazfw46
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Your mother's former friend just happened to go through your trash on the same day she decided to throw out her valuable personal diaries? That seems like quite a coincidence.
Where was the trash? was it still in the trash can inside the house ? And check with /r/AusLegal dad may be crossing the line into harassment.
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[Australia] An (ex)friend of my mothers went through our garbage, taking my mum's personal diaries and gave them to her ex-husband who is now emailing them to his and her group of friends. What can I do? Context - My parents broke up a few years ago, I stay exclusively with my mum (father is an dick). He is a real piece of work and refuses to pay for anything in my life including school fees so my single working mum is doing her best to support us. My 18th birthday is coming up in about a month and I assume he knows he won't be able to try to get involved with my life unless I decide so (which I doubt I will). A (now ex) friend of my mothers went through our trash and stole some old diaries of my mothers. He then gave them to my father who scanned them into his computer and is emailing them to a group of friends (many of which are still friends with my mum) in an effort to shame her I guess. These diaries are incredibly personal and I find it despicable behaviour, I would just like to know my own/mums options as her life is hard enough already especially without all her friends and other people knowing her personal thoughts. Thanks!
dazfw46
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Your mother's former friend just happened to go through your trash on the same day she decided to throw out her valuable personal diaries? That seems like quite a coincidence.
Use a shredder and/or dispose of private information in multiple bins/multiple bin types.
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I'm renting and my carpet is past its lifetime. It's frayed, matted, and gross. The landlord refuses to disclose when they last replaced the carpet and will not offer a replacement. What tenant rights do I have? I've asked multiple times on when they last replaced it, they just say that they don't know when tax records show that the same LLC has owned the home for the last 40 years. We are buying rugs to cover the carpet so we don't have to walk on it....
iqa89vp
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>What tenant rights do I have You have the right to leave this crappy apartment at the end of your lease term and find somewhere nicer to live. When you accept possession of a property in a specific condition, you really don't have options to force landlord to improve it. >I've asked multiple times on when they last replaced it They don't owe you an answer to that.
It depends on the jurisdiction, but comparatively few require the landlord to make cosmetic repairs. In general, the best you can get out of this is some confidence that your landlord cannot deduct for damage to the carpet if it's fully depreciated.
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I'm renting and my carpet is past its lifetime. It's frayed, matted, and gross. The landlord refuses to disclose when they last replaced the carpet and will not offer a replacement. What tenant rights do I have? I've asked multiple times on when they last replaced it, they just say that they don't know when tax records show that the same LLC has owned the home for the last 40 years. We are buying rugs to cover the carpet so we don't have to walk on it....
iqa8678
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Unless the carpet poses a health/safety issue, they are not required to replace it.
>What tenant rights do I have You have the right to leave this crappy apartment at the end of your lease term and find somewhere nicer to live. When you accept possession of a property in a specific condition, you really don't have options to force landlord to improve it. >I've asked multiple times on when they last replaced it They don't owe you an answer to that.
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I'm renting and my carpet is past its lifetime. It's frayed, matted, and gross. The landlord refuses to disclose when they last replaced the carpet and will not offer a replacement. What tenant rights do I have? I've asked multiple times on when they last replaced it, they just say that they don't know when tax records show that the same LLC has owned the home for the last 40 years. We are buying rugs to cover the carpet so we don't have to walk on it....
iqe2l0w
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Not a lawyer becareful because when you decide to leave that apartment they can or at least will try to charge you for replacement of the carpet out of your deposit. They will claim that you damaged it. I would look up your states tenants rights. Some states have certain conditions the apartment must meet, like the cleanliness of the apt before a tenant moves in.
Unless the carpet poses a health/safety issue, they are not required to replace it.
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[OH] Job fired me on my last day after convincing me to work out my full 14 day notice to receive a payout of my PTO...which they now say they won't because I was officially terminated. Bulk of it is in the title but a little more info here: Found a new job, put in a notice at my old job. A few days later my boss comes to me and tells me they had said that if I work out my full 14 day notice I'll get my 50 or so hours of PTO paid off. Fast forward to today and I go in for a meeting and they "officially" terminate me and say they won't be paying out my PTO. My last shift was 12 hours from now and it seems they've only done it to avoid paying me. The termination letter and the supervisor in the meeting cited reason and claims that are very easily proven false. Even so, they did not even follow their company write-up/suspension/termination policy. Do I have any course for recompense? If so who do I contact?
iol0odz
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You could talk with an employment attorney. They had a verbal contract with you that they breached.
Before you reach out to lawyer, who will charge you, see if your state has a Dept of Industrial Resources (Ca version). You can file a grievance through them and they might be able to assist.
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[OH] Job fired me on my last day after convincing me to work out my full 14 day notice to receive a payout of my PTO...which they now say they won't because I was officially terminated. Bulk of it is in the title but a little more info here: Found a new job, put in a notice at my old job. A few days later my boss comes to me and tells me they had said that if I work out my full 14 day notice I'll get my 50 or so hours of PTO paid off. Fast forward to today and I go in for a meeting and they "officially" terminate me and say they won't be paying out my PTO. My last shift was 12 hours from now and it seems they've only done it to avoid paying me. The termination letter and the supervisor in the meeting cited reason and claims that are very easily proven false. Even so, they did not even follow their company write-up/suspension/termination policy. Do I have any course for recompense? If so who do I contact?
iom53th
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Hire an employment attorney. It probably wouldn't cost anything for consult. Hopefully you have your resignation letter copy.
INFO: Do you have documentation of the conversation where your boss convinced you to work and specifically stated you would get your PTO paid out if you did?
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[OH] Job fired me on my last day after convincing me to work out my full 14 day notice to receive a payout of my PTO...which they now say they won't because I was officially terminated. Bulk of it is in the title but a little more info here: Found a new job, put in a notice at my old job. A few days later my boss comes to me and tells me they had said that if I work out my full 14 day notice I'll get my 50 or so hours of PTO paid off. Fast forward to today and I go in for a meeting and they "officially" terminate me and say they won't be paying out my PTO. My last shift was 12 hours from now and it seems they've only done it to avoid paying me. The termination letter and the supervisor in the meeting cited reason and claims that are very easily proven false. Even so, they did not even follow their company write-up/suspension/termination policy. Do I have any course for recompense? If so who do I contact?
ioluy3o
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I would find an employment attorney who is licensed in Ohio. Typically, the company has to be acting in good faith for the law to be applied in their favor. However, a reasonable person can see that the company was not acting in good faith
INFO: Do you have documentation of the conversation where your boss convinced you to work and specifically stated you would get your PTO paid out if you did?
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[OH] Job fired me on my last day after convincing me to work out my full 14 day notice to receive a payout of my PTO...which they now say they won't because I was officially terminated. Bulk of it is in the title but a little more info here: Found a new job, put in a notice at my old job. A few days later my boss comes to me and tells me they had said that if I work out my full 14 day notice I'll get my 50 or so hours of PTO paid off. Fast forward to today and I go in for a meeting and they "officially" terminate me and say they won't be paying out my PTO. My last shift was 12 hours from now and it seems they've only done it to avoid paying me. The termination letter and the supervisor in the meeting cited reason and claims that are very easily proven false. Even so, they did not even follow their company write-up/suspension/termination policy. Do I have any course for recompense? If so who do I contact?
ioluy3o
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I would find an employment attorney who is licensed in Ohio. Typically, the company has to be acting in good faith for the law to be applied in their favor. However, a reasonable person can see that the company was not acting in good faith
Hire an employment attorney. It probably wouldn't cost anything for consult. Hopefully you have your resignation letter copy.
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I let a friend in need borrow a TV from me, now they won't give it back and have cut me off. So title explains most of it, I had a friend who had an abusive relationship and had every piece of electronics broken or taken from them, so I let them borrow a TV of mine until they could get their own again. However, there was a bad argument between us and now that they've cut things off with me, they refuse to give me my TV back and promise to try and fight me if I try to come for it. Is there anything I could do here to get it back without too much trouble? I have some text messages referring to my ownership of it, but that's about it unfortunately.
il79s74
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Is there any written evidence that you agreed to let your friend borrow the Television for a certain amount of time?
Assuming you are in the US-- Send a demand letter and threaten to take them to small claims court. Assemble all your evidence, and file suit.
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I let a friend in need borrow a TV from me, now they won't give it back and have cut me off. So title explains most of it, I had a friend who had an abusive relationship and had every piece of electronics broken or taken from them, so I let them borrow a TV of mine until they could get their own again. However, there was a bad argument between us and now that they've cut things off with me, they refuse to give me my TV back and promise to try and fight me if I try to come for it. Is there anything I could do here to get it back without too much trouble? I have some text messages referring to my ownership of it, but that's about it unfortunately.
il7ciat
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You sue them. "Self-help" -- trying to go and get it yourself -- is problematic. If you went there and it was sitting on the front lawn and you took it, you'd probably be in the clear. You can't generally steal your own property (there are exceptions not relevant here, like taking your own car from a police impound lot or a mechanic whose bill you have not paid). But you can't enter their home to take it. Can't force them to give it to you, can't harass them into giving it to you, can't terrorize or scare them. The most threat you could make would be something along the lines of "give it back or I'll sue you". Winning the lawsuit would require some evidence that shows it was not a gift and that they knew they were supposed to give it back. Even a text message from them acknowledging this would likely be enough for a small claims lawsuit. Most likely, what you'd win is the cash value of a used TV of similar quality and condition. Like, what that TV would sell for on eBay or craigslist. And, of course, the person has to actually *have* money. Some US states, but not all, will allow you to sue for the return of the item itself.
Is there any written evidence that you agreed to let your friend borrow the Television for a certain amount of time?
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I let a friend in need borrow a TV from me, now they won't give it back and have cut me off. So title explains most of it, I had a friend who had an abusive relationship and had every piece of electronics broken or taken from them, so I let them borrow a TV of mine until they could get their own again. However, there was a bad argument between us and now that they've cut things off with me, they refuse to give me my TV back and promise to try and fight me if I try to come for it. Is there anything I could do here to get it back without too much trouble? I have some text messages referring to my ownership of it, but that's about it unfortunately.
il7b6kb
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How much is the TV worth?
You sue them. "Self-help" -- trying to go and get it yourself -- is problematic. If you went there and it was sitting on the front lawn and you took it, you'd probably be in the clear. You can't generally steal your own property (there are exceptions not relevant here, like taking your own car from a police impound lot or a mechanic whose bill you have not paid). But you can't enter their home to take it. Can't force them to give it to you, can't harass them into giving it to you, can't terrorize or scare them. The most threat you could make would be something along the lines of "give it back or I'll sue you". Winning the lawsuit would require some evidence that shows it was not a gift and that they knew they were supposed to give it back. Even a text message from them acknowledging this would likely be enough for a small claims lawsuit. Most likely, what you'd win is the cash value of a used TV of similar quality and condition. Like, what that TV would sell for on eBay or craigslist. And, of course, the person has to actually *have* money. Some US states, but not all, will allow you to sue for the return of the item itself.
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I let a friend in need borrow a TV from me, now they won't give it back and have cut me off. So title explains most of it, I had a friend who had an abusive relationship and had every piece of electronics broken or taken from them, so I let them borrow a TV of mine until they could get their own again. However, there was a bad argument between us and now that they've cut things off with me, they refuse to give me my TV back and promise to try and fight me if I try to come for it. Is there anything I could do here to get it back without too much trouble? I have some text messages referring to my ownership of it, but that's about it unfortunately.
il79s74
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Is there any written evidence that you agreed to let your friend borrow the Television for a certain amount of time?
Option 1. Take them to small claims court. Option 2. TVs are cheap. Your peace is priceless. Count it a blessing this grimy person showed you who they are and you can prune them from your circles.
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I let a friend in need borrow a TV from me, now they won't give it back and have cut me off. So title explains most of it, I had a friend who had an abusive relationship and had every piece of electronics broken or taken from them, so I let them borrow a TV of mine until they could get their own again. However, there was a bad argument between us and now that they've cut things off with me, they refuse to give me my TV back and promise to try and fight me if I try to come for it. Is there anything I could do here to get it back without too much trouble? I have some text messages referring to my ownership of it, but that's about it unfortunately.
il7b6kb
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How much is the TV worth?
Option 1. Take them to small claims court. Option 2. TVs are cheap. Your peace is priceless. Count it a blessing this grimy person showed you who they are and you can prune them from your circles.
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I let a friend in need borrow a TV from me, now they won't give it back and have cut me off. So title explains most of it, I had a friend who had an abusive relationship and had every piece of electronics broken or taken from them, so I let them borrow a TV of mine until they could get their own again. However, there was a bad argument between us and now that they've cut things off with me, they refuse to give me my TV back and promise to try and fight me if I try to come for it. Is there anything I could do here to get it back without too much trouble? I have some text messages referring to my ownership of it, but that's about it unfortunately.
il79s74
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Is there any written evidence that you agreed to let your friend borrow the Television for a certain amount of time?
I am sorry this happened to you...BUT 1) You knew from past experiences that this person had all previous electronics broken or destroyed and you still let them borrow your TV. I have found that it is best not to lend things to people that I am not ok with never getting back. 2) Accept this as a life lesson and find gratitude in the fact that this person is no longer a part of your life. 3) Remember this quote from Shakespeare's Hamlet: "Neither a borrower, nor a lender be. For loan oft loses both itself and friend. And borrower dulls the edge of husbandry.” This quote is from William Shakespeare's 'Polonius advises Laertes' is relevant even today.
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I let a friend in need borrow a TV from me, now they won't give it back and have cut me off. So title explains most of it, I had a friend who had an abusive relationship and had every piece of electronics broken or taken from them, so I let them borrow a TV of mine until they could get their own again. However, there was a bad argument between us and now that they've cut things off with me, they refuse to give me my TV back and promise to try and fight me if I try to come for it. Is there anything I could do here to get it back without too much trouble? I have some text messages referring to my ownership of it, but that's about it unfortunately.
ilbqb04
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I am sorry this happened to you...BUT 1) You knew from past experiences that this person had all previous electronics broken or destroyed and you still let them borrow your TV. I have found that it is best not to lend things to people that I am not ok with never getting back. 2) Accept this as a life lesson and find gratitude in the fact that this person is no longer a part of your life. 3) Remember this quote from Shakespeare's Hamlet: "Neither a borrower, nor a lender be. For loan oft loses both itself and friend. And borrower dulls the edge of husbandry.” This quote is from William Shakespeare's 'Polonius advises Laertes' is relevant even today.
How much is the TV worth?
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I just gained full custody of my daughter, now my ex is wanting to charge me with statutory rape as revenge. Our daughter is 7. The accusation is true, when we started dating I was 19, she was 16. I turned 20 three months before she turned 17 in the state of Texas. In that three month window is when she got pregnant, so it’s very easy to backtrack the nine months from when our daughter was born to prove that it was technically illegal. I gained full custody of our daughter 2 months ago due to unrelated abuse on her end, and she informed me that she plans on “sending me to jail” for our age difference seven/ eight years ago. I have the text proof that this is purely motivated by revenge. What are my chances of avoiding this charge? I would prefer to not be a felon
eiurelt
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And stop talking to your ex. Handle this through your attorneys.
Talk with your custody attorney and a very good criminal attorney over how to handle this. Pull out all the stops here. I have to think that the court will consider what's best for the child and your ex's abuse (Was this of the child? You didn't say).
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I just gained full custody of my daughter, now my ex is wanting to charge me with statutory rape as revenge. Our daughter is 7. The accusation is true, when we started dating I was 19, she was 16. I turned 20 three months before she turned 17 in the state of Texas. In that three month window is when she got pregnant, so it’s very easy to backtrack the nine months from when our daughter was born to prove that it was technically illegal. I gained full custody of our daughter 2 months ago due to unrelated abuse on her end, and she informed me that she plans on “sending me to jail” for our age difference seven/ eight years ago. I have the text proof that this is purely motivated by revenge. What are my chances of avoiding this charge? I would prefer to not be a felon
eiurelt
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And stop talking to your ex. Handle this through your attorneys.
Texas does have a Romeo and Juliet law. This law does not apply to your relationship. Criminal Defense Lawyer, now. There is no statute of limitations on this, and it's a serious felony. You're looking at prison time and serious fines.
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I just gained full custody of my daughter, now my ex is wanting to charge me with statutory rape as revenge. Our daughter is 7. The accusation is true, when we started dating I was 19, she was 16. I turned 20 three months before she turned 17 in the state of Texas. In that three month window is when she got pregnant, so it’s very easy to backtrack the nine months from when our daughter was born to prove that it was technically illegal. I gained full custody of our daughter 2 months ago due to unrelated abuse on her end, and she informed me that she plans on “sending me to jail” for our age difference seven/ eight years ago. I have the text proof that this is purely motivated by revenge. What are my chances of avoiding this charge? I would prefer to not be a felon
eiuun0x
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Set up a guardian you trust to take over care of your daughter in case the worst happens, you don't want to give bio mom a chance to regain custody. Have your trusted family or friends become approved to foster ASAP, that way she isn't stuck with strangers in the system.
Talk with your custody attorney and a very good criminal attorney over how to handle this. Pull out all the stops here. I have to think that the court will consider what's best for the child and your ex's abuse (Was this of the child? You didn't say).
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I just gained full custody of my daughter, now my ex is wanting to charge me with statutory rape as revenge. Our daughter is 7. The accusation is true, when we started dating I was 19, she was 16. I turned 20 three months before she turned 17 in the state of Texas. In that three month window is when she got pregnant, so it’s very easy to backtrack the nine months from when our daughter was born to prove that it was technically illegal. I gained full custody of our daughter 2 months ago due to unrelated abuse on her end, and she informed me that she plans on “sending me to jail” for our age difference seven/ eight years ago. I have the text proof that this is purely motivated by revenge. What are my chances of avoiding this charge? I would prefer to not be a felon
eiuun0x
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Set up a guardian you trust to take over care of your daughter in case the worst happens, you don't want to give bio mom a chance to regain custody. Have your trusted family or friends become approved to foster ASAP, that way she isn't stuck with strangers in the system.
Texas does have a Romeo and Juliet law. This law does not apply to your relationship. Criminal Defense Lawyer, now. There is no statute of limitations on this, and it's a serious felony. You're looking at prison time and serious fines.
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I got charged someone else's child support. Hi everyone I am new to this whole deal. I got charged 500 dollars from my last paycheck for child support. It is for someone who has the same name as me except for middle name. He lives in Iowa and I live in Wisconsin. HR said everything is cleared up but I dont know when I will get my money back. Is there anything I can do legally? This was done through a third party hired by my company.
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Not a lawyer It might be a good idea to get in writing an explanation of what happened, relevant dates, and preferably on company letter head. I would hate to bump into some administrative problem due to some report of unpaid child support down the road
>HR said everything is cleared up but I don't know when I will get my money back Absolutely nothing is "cleared up" until you receive your full paycheck. I would be going to HR demanding my full pay. They can sort out any clerical errors they made on their own, they don't get to commit wage theft in the mean time
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I got charged someone else's child support. Hi everyone I am new to this whole deal. I got charged 500 dollars from my last paycheck for child support. It is for someone who has the same name as me except for middle name. He lives in Iowa and I live in Wisconsin. HR said everything is cleared up but I dont know when I will get my money back. Is there anything I can do legally? This was done through a third party hired by my company.
hrt53gf
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>HR said everything is cleared up but I don't know when I will get my money back Absolutely nothing is "cleared up" until you receive your full paycheck. I would be going to HR demanding my full pay. They can sort out any clerical errors they made on their own, they don't get to commit wage theft in the mean time
“HR said everything is cleared up but I dont know when I will get my money back.“ ​ as another commenter said, go back to hr but Ask them will they’ll be paying you your full paycheck. they were served wage garnishment papers and sent a portion of your paycheck elsewhere. I’m guessing they have the ability to make you whole and THEY can attempt to get THEIR money back. there was a mistake made by the courts but that isn’t on you.
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I got charged someone else's child support. Hi everyone I am new to this whole deal. I got charged 500 dollars from my last paycheck for child support. It is for someone who has the same name as me except for middle name. He lives in Iowa and I live in Wisconsin. HR said everything is cleared up but I dont know when I will get my money back. Is there anything I can do legally? This was done through a third party hired by my company.
hrsx44p
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In a previous life I was a payroll accountant for a medium sized government agency and processed garnishments/child support. Do not accept "oh they need to give the money back so we'll have to wait for a refund." They really fucked up by not verifying the order first and if they didnt wanna float you $500 then they shoulda done a better job.
>HR said everything is cleared up but I don't know when I will get my money back Absolutely nothing is "cleared up" until you receive your full paycheck. I would be going to HR demanding my full pay. They can sort out any clerical errors they made on their own, they don't get to commit wage theft in the mean time
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I got charged someone else's child support. Hi everyone I am new to this whole deal. I got charged 500 dollars from my last paycheck for child support. It is for someone who has the same name as me except for middle name. He lives in Iowa and I live in Wisconsin. HR said everything is cleared up but I dont know when I will get my money back. Is there anything I can do legally? This was done through a third party hired by my company.
hrt05n2
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Query HR via email, not by phone.
>HR said everything is cleared up but I don't know when I will get my money back Absolutely nothing is "cleared up" until you receive your full paycheck. I would be going to HR demanding my full pay. They can sort out any clerical errors they made on their own, they don't get to commit wage theft in the mean time
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I got charged someone else's child support. Hi everyone I am new to this whole deal. I got charged 500 dollars from my last paycheck for child support. It is for someone who has the same name as me except for middle name. He lives in Iowa and I live in Wisconsin. HR said everything is cleared up but I dont know when I will get my money back. Is there anything I can do legally? This was done through a third party hired by my company.
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Query HR via email, not by phone.
your company is still obligated to pay you, even if they haven't been paid back themselves yet. if they balk you can file a wage claim with your state's department of workforce development.
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I got charged someone else's child support. Hi everyone I am new to this whole deal. I got charged 500 dollars from my last paycheck for child support. It is for someone who has the same name as me except for middle name. He lives in Iowa and I live in Wisconsin. HR said everything is cleared up but I dont know when I will get my money back. Is there anything I can do legally? This was done through a third party hired by my company.
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your company is still obligated to pay you, even if they haven't been paid back themselves yet. if they balk you can file a wage claim with your state's department of workforce development.
Your company (the one you work for) needs to make you whole. They are the ones who have to be out the $500, not you. If this is not resolved in a timely manner, you can report them to your state's Labor Board....but be careful about that, you may get blacklisted...
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I got charged someone else's child support. Hi everyone I am new to this whole deal. I got charged 500 dollars from my last paycheck for child support. It is for someone who has the same name as me except for middle name. He lives in Iowa and I live in Wisconsin. HR said everything is cleared up but I dont know when I will get my money back. Is there anything I can do legally? This was done through a third party hired by my company.
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your company is still obligated to pay you, even if they haven't been paid back themselves yet. if they balk you can file a wage claim with your state's department of workforce development.
The way this works is they send the check back to your company and THEY cash it. If this is already cleared up you should get with HR on about how fast can they get you your money.
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I got charged someone else's child support. Hi everyone I am new to this whole deal. I got charged 500 dollars from my last paycheck for child support. It is for someone who has the same name as me except for middle name. He lives in Iowa and I live in Wisconsin. HR said everything is cleared up but I dont know when I will get my money back. Is there anything I can do legally? This was done through a third party hired by my company.
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As someone who processes PR and has done quite a few of these, it is on the company not the party who sent the garnishment. All information should have been checked, double checked and then checked again. I'm sure the SS number was incorrect.
Your company (the one you work for) needs to make you whole. They are the ones who have to be out the $500, not you. If this is not resolved in a timely manner, you can report them to your state's Labor Board....but be careful about that, you may get blacklisted...
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I got charged someone else's child support. Hi everyone I am new to this whole deal. I got charged 500 dollars from my last paycheck for child support. It is for someone who has the same name as me except for middle name. He lives in Iowa and I live in Wisconsin. HR said everything is cleared up but I dont know when I will get my money back. Is there anything I can do legally? This was done through a third party hired by my company.
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As someone who processes PR and has done quite a few of these, it is on the company not the party who sent the garnishment. All information should have been checked, double checked and then checked again. I'm sure the SS number was incorrect.
HR needs to be returning your money and waiting on the reimbursement. They made the mistake by not verifying your identity and allowing the garnishment.
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I got charged someone else's child support. Hi everyone I am new to this whole deal. I got charged 500 dollars from my last paycheck for child support. It is for someone who has the same name as me except for middle name. He lives in Iowa and I live in Wisconsin. HR said everything is cleared up but I dont know when I will get my money back. Is there anything I can do legally? This was done through a third party hired by my company.
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As someone who processes PR and has done quite a few of these, it is on the company not the party who sent the garnishment. All information should have been checked, double checked and then checked again. I'm sure the SS number was incorrect.
The way this works is they send the check back to your company and THEY cash it. If this is already cleared up you should get with HR on about how fast can they get you your money.
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I got charged someone else's child support. Hi everyone I am new to this whole deal. I got charged 500 dollars from my last paycheck for child support. It is for someone who has the same name as me except for middle name. He lives in Iowa and I live in Wisconsin. HR said everything is cleared up but I dont know when I will get my money back. Is there anything I can do legally? This was done through a third party hired by my company.
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The way this works is they send the check back to your company and THEY cash it. If this is already cleared up you should get with HR on about how fast can they get you your money.
Your company (the one you work for) needs to make you whole. They are the ones who have to be out the $500, not you. If this is not resolved in a timely manner, you can report them to your state's Labor Board....but be careful about that, you may get blacklisted...
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I got charged someone else's child support. Hi everyone I am new to this whole deal. I got charged 500 dollars from my last paycheck for child support. It is for someone who has the same name as me except for middle name. He lives in Iowa and I live in Wisconsin. HR said everything is cleared up but I dont know when I will get my money back. Is there anything I can do legally? This was done through a third party hired by my company.
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The way this works is they send the check back to your company and THEY cash it. If this is already cleared up you should get with HR on about how fast can they get you your money.
HR needs to be returning your money and waiting on the reimbursement. They made the mistake by not verifying your identity and allowing the garnishment.
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I got charged someone else's child support. Hi everyone I am new to this whole deal. I got charged 500 dollars from my last paycheck for child support. It is for someone who has the same name as me except for middle name. He lives in Iowa and I live in Wisconsin. HR said everything is cleared up but I dont know when I will get my money back. Is there anything I can do legally? This was done through a third party hired by my company.
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The company should 100% reimburse you. Getting the money back should be on them, not you.
I am not a lawyer, from the Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development: "Employees have the right to file a wage claim with the department if there is a dispute with the employer about the amount of wages owed. If the employer refuses to pay wages earned on the regularly established payday, the employee should request payment. If the employee does not receive payment after 6 days, the employee may file a claim with the department. Once a claim is filed, the department will seek to resolve the matter with the employer."
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I got charged someone else's child support. Hi everyone I am new to this whole deal. I got charged 500 dollars from my last paycheck for child support. It is for someone who has the same name as me except for middle name. He lives in Iowa and I live in Wisconsin. HR said everything is cleared up but I dont know when I will get my money back. Is there anything I can do legally? This was done through a third party hired by my company.
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You may need to contact Iowa child support, if it was already disbursed they may need to do a third party reversal repost and they will send you your money due to mistaken identity.
I had the same exact thing. Only difference, we had the same middle names but I was in Los Angeles and the other in PA. Once I provided basic info to HR, they asked me: "do you need the difference now or next pay run". I said now preferably and it was deposited the same day. I made a call to the people who gave the ordered garnishment and cleared I wasn't the correct version of my name, they accepted that and then my company handled it on their end. I was with them for 3+ years at that point, so they had trust in me and gave me the funds via that day + the wire fee and cleared up on their end in background.
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Negligent care of child? Broken bones at daycare. Broken bone at childcare A few days ago, my child broke their wrist at daycare. It was serious, radius/ulnar, casting, multiple x rays, a surgical procedure, maybe another one, and of course time and pain at the ED, missed work for follow up appointments, I’m still being charged for daycare while I keep my child home for a few days or longer. Right away: I don’t feel having a broken wrist is entirely the daycare providers fault. Accidents happen. However, problem starts here: I got a voicemail stating my child was injured and broke his wrist. I have the voicemail. The provider indicated how obvious it was that it was broken. My spouse received the same voicemail. Since we are both in the medical field, we can’t answer our phones all the time. I received the voicemail, promptly, and made it to the school in less than 30 minutes. My son was still lying in the dirt with his head below his heart on the ground crying and screaming in pain. It was HORRIBLE. His arm was like 75 degrees displaced and laying in the dirt. They should have called 911! Tears down his face, dirt an over him. I hastily wrap his arm with an ACE wrap (I’m hands on medical professional) and muscle 50 pounds of child off the dirt and into my car. While I’m struggling to put my son in the car, an employee of the daycare shoved a clipboard on top of the car with an “incident report” to sign. I hastily sign and didn’t read it. Fast forward to the aftermath. I spoke to the owner, expressed my concern that the staff didn’t act appropriately with my son. The owner indicated that the staff told her they “picked up” and “cleaned up” my son. This is a bullshit lie. The owner admitted over the phone to me that story isn’t what the staff told her, they told her they helped my child up and cleaned him up. The staff felt concerned enough to LIE about their actions. I’m concerned. It’s a reputable daycare, but this response was not ideal. What should I do? Location: Maine
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First thing is to care for your child. Second thing is to consider preservation of evidence. Save the voicemail. Write an email to yourself with all details you remember of any interaction with daycare staff (try to keep your emotion out of it and just include facts). See if they or neighbors have any video cameras that cover where this happened. When/if your child is capable, see if you can record a video of what happened with what they think happened. Third, see about getting your child into a different daycare. Fourth, get a consultation with a lawyer.
First off, I'm sorry you had to experience this. Having a seriously injured/sick kid is every parent's worst nightmare. My main question is -- What is your goal with this situation? At the very minimum is sounds like you may want a refund for the days your child misses at daycare while they're being cared for at home. What else are you looking for? Financial compensation for medical bills & missed time at work? An apology from the daycare and an adjustment of their policies so this doesn't happen to someone else's kid? For someone to get fired? A good first step is to talk with a personal injury lawyer, and keep in mind their main objective will likely be to sue the daycare (which has insurance) for monetary damages, because that's how they earn a living. They don't earn money by politely asking the daycare to change their policies and dismiss the bad teacher(s). Honestly, the daycare's response wasn't just "not ideal" it was downright negligent. To compare a nearly identical situation -- My daughter broke her wrist at a public school by falling off the monkey bars. Happens all the time in the spring, the ER's are full of kids with broken wrists/ankles/arms from monkey bars and trampolines. I work 5 minutes away from the school and was there within 10 minutes of the incident once they called me. An ambulance was already there first since the school called 911, and my daughter was already loaded in the back and getting a kid-sized dose of morphine or something similar. Everything was handled quickly and professionally from start to finish. We know accidents happen, and businesses need to follow their established procedures especially when it comes to emergency situations involving minors. Forcing you to take the kid to the ER with a broken arm in the back of your car is just awful. And yes, consider another daycare.
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Negligent care of child? Broken bones at daycare. Broken bone at childcare A few days ago, my child broke their wrist at daycare. It was serious, radius/ulnar, casting, multiple x rays, a surgical procedure, maybe another one, and of course time and pain at the ED, missed work for follow up appointments, I’m still being charged for daycare while I keep my child home for a few days or longer. Right away: I don’t feel having a broken wrist is entirely the daycare providers fault. Accidents happen. However, problem starts here: I got a voicemail stating my child was injured and broke his wrist. I have the voicemail. The provider indicated how obvious it was that it was broken. My spouse received the same voicemail. Since we are both in the medical field, we can’t answer our phones all the time. I received the voicemail, promptly, and made it to the school in less than 30 minutes. My son was still lying in the dirt with his head below his heart on the ground crying and screaming in pain. It was HORRIBLE. His arm was like 75 degrees displaced and laying in the dirt. They should have called 911! Tears down his face, dirt an over him. I hastily wrap his arm with an ACE wrap (I’m hands on medical professional) and muscle 50 pounds of child off the dirt and into my car. While I’m struggling to put my son in the car, an employee of the daycare shoved a clipboard on top of the car with an “incident report” to sign. I hastily sign and didn’t read it. Fast forward to the aftermath. I spoke to the owner, expressed my concern that the staff didn’t act appropriately with my son. The owner indicated that the staff told her they “picked up” and “cleaned up” my son. This is a bullshit lie. The owner admitted over the phone to me that story isn’t what the staff told her, they told her they helped my child up and cleaned him up. The staff felt concerned enough to LIE about their actions. I’m concerned. It’s a reputable daycare, but this response was not ideal. What should I do? Location: Maine
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Former daycare employee - 911 should have been called and the director/owner should have been with the child. Where the heck was the owner when the incident happened? Was someone sitting with your child? It may not be wise to move someone if they have injuries, but they should have been with your child and again 911 should have been called. Interesting that they had time to fill out an incident report while your child was on the ground in pain. I would immediately stop paying the daycare and find a new daycare. Report that one to the state immediately as they may have had to report the incident themselves and would have done so inaccurately by the sounds of it.
First thing is to care for your child. Second thing is to consider preservation of evidence. Save the voicemail. Write an email to yourself with all details you remember of any interaction with daycare staff (try to keep your emotion out of it and just include facts). See if they or neighbors have any video cameras that cover where this happened. When/if your child is capable, see if you can record a video of what happened with what they think happened. Third, see about getting your child into a different daycare. Fourth, get a consultation with a lawyer.
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Negligent care of child? Broken bones at daycare. Broken bone at childcare A few days ago, my child broke their wrist at daycare. It was serious, radius/ulnar, casting, multiple x rays, a surgical procedure, maybe another one, and of course time and pain at the ED, missed work for follow up appointments, I’m still being charged for daycare while I keep my child home for a few days or longer. Right away: I don’t feel having a broken wrist is entirely the daycare providers fault. Accidents happen. However, problem starts here: I got a voicemail stating my child was injured and broke his wrist. I have the voicemail. The provider indicated how obvious it was that it was broken. My spouse received the same voicemail. Since we are both in the medical field, we can’t answer our phones all the time. I received the voicemail, promptly, and made it to the school in less than 30 minutes. My son was still lying in the dirt with his head below his heart on the ground crying and screaming in pain. It was HORRIBLE. His arm was like 75 degrees displaced and laying in the dirt. They should have called 911! Tears down his face, dirt an over him. I hastily wrap his arm with an ACE wrap (I’m hands on medical professional) and muscle 50 pounds of child off the dirt and into my car. While I’m struggling to put my son in the car, an employee of the daycare shoved a clipboard on top of the car with an “incident report” to sign. I hastily sign and didn’t read it. Fast forward to the aftermath. I spoke to the owner, expressed my concern that the staff didn’t act appropriately with my son. The owner indicated that the staff told her they “picked up” and “cleaned up” my son. This is a bullshit lie. The owner admitted over the phone to me that story isn’t what the staff told her, they told her they helped my child up and cleaned him up. The staff felt concerned enough to LIE about their actions. I’m concerned. It’s a reputable daycare, but this response was not ideal. What should I do? Location: Maine
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When you enrolled your child at daycare, did you sign anything that allowed them to seek medical treatment? I know most daycares do for this exact reason.
Former daycare employee - 911 should have been called and the director/owner should have been with the child. Where the heck was the owner when the incident happened? Was someone sitting with your child? It may not be wise to move someone if they have injuries, but they should have been with your child and again 911 should have been called. Interesting that they had time to fill out an incident report while your child was on the ground in pain. I would immediately stop paying the daycare and find a new daycare. Report that one to the state immediately as they may have had to report the incident themselves and would have done so inaccurately by the sounds of it.
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Negligent care of child? Broken bones at daycare. Broken bone at childcare A few days ago, my child broke their wrist at daycare. It was serious, radius/ulnar, casting, multiple x rays, a surgical procedure, maybe another one, and of course time and pain at the ED, missed work for follow up appointments, I’m still being charged for daycare while I keep my child home for a few days or longer. Right away: I don’t feel having a broken wrist is entirely the daycare providers fault. Accidents happen. However, problem starts here: I got a voicemail stating my child was injured and broke his wrist. I have the voicemail. The provider indicated how obvious it was that it was broken. My spouse received the same voicemail. Since we are both in the medical field, we can’t answer our phones all the time. I received the voicemail, promptly, and made it to the school in less than 30 minutes. My son was still lying in the dirt with his head below his heart on the ground crying and screaming in pain. It was HORRIBLE. His arm was like 75 degrees displaced and laying in the dirt. They should have called 911! Tears down his face, dirt an over him. I hastily wrap his arm with an ACE wrap (I’m hands on medical professional) and muscle 50 pounds of child off the dirt and into my car. While I’m struggling to put my son in the car, an employee of the daycare shoved a clipboard on top of the car with an “incident report” to sign. I hastily sign and didn’t read it. Fast forward to the aftermath. I spoke to the owner, expressed my concern that the staff didn’t act appropriately with my son. The owner indicated that the staff told her they “picked up” and “cleaned up” my son. This is a bullshit lie. The owner admitted over the phone to me that story isn’t what the staff told her, they told her they helped my child up and cleaned him up. The staff felt concerned enough to LIE about their actions. I’m concerned. It’s a reputable daycare, but this response was not ideal. What should I do? Location: Maine
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Not a lawyer, not in Maine, but have owned a daycare. This is based on my state's rules, Maine's are probably different, but this should give you a good starting point: If you take no other advice from this, contact your state's licensing office. Based on what you've said, I don't think anything bad-bad is going on, like abuse or the owner/director deliberately lying to you, but it DOES sound like there is some terrible communication (either incompetence, bad policy, or staff lying to the owner) and your center needs to undergo some mandated training on emergency protocols. The licensing office can investigate and make sure rules were followed. It sounds like the communication situation is really concerning. That would raise major red flags for me. The rest of it does not-- and here's why, based on my state. IN REGARDS TO THE INJURY: \--What are your state's rules regarding moving/providing aid to an injured child in childcare? In my state, we are allowed to secure the child's safety, and provide emergency first aid to stabilize a life-threatening situation. So, for example, we WOULD be allowed to apply pressure to stop bleeding, but we would NOT be allowed to sling your child's arm, wrap it, or touch it unless we absolutely had to to get your child out of harm's way. (We're also not supposed to do things like remove a splinter, to get you an idea of what first aid we are and are not allowed to provide.). According to the rules we go under, I probably would have gotten a pillow or mat to elevate your child's head, and wiped off his face or other scrapes NOT on his arm, but would NOT have moved him anywhere or touched his arm because I am not a medical professional. Did you ask them to call 911? In my state, for \*non life-threatening\* situations, we contact the parents first and then 911 only if the parent requests it or we cannot contact a parent/emergency contact. In all my First Aid trainings, I have been instructed not to call 911 for broken bones, unless it's a compound fracture, because of ambulance bills, so unless you requested, I would not have called 911 for your child. However, it was in my protocol to specifically ask parents if they wanted me to call 911 or if they wanted to pick the child up themselves. Again, this is for non life-threatening situations. You will want to find out what your state's requirements are for first aid/CPR trainings. In my state, at least 4 employees of a center must have current training, and one with training must be on site at all times. For liability, we tried to have one in each classroom with training. Questions you will want to ask: Did your center meet the state requirements? Did a person with first aid training respond to your child's injury. Unless the owner is stupid, they carry liability insurance exactly for stuff like this. You may not even need to pay a personal injury lawyer-- ask your provider who their insurance provider is and what the process is for making a claim. ​ IN REGARDS TO THE COMMUNICATION: The fact that the communication between the owners and staff was obviously inadequate is concerning. In my state, there must be a plan in place for communication. If the owner is not the director-on-site, you may want to request a meeting with the director to find out what was going on. Is your daycare owned by the director, or does the owner hire a director? This will probably be important later on down the line so you should find this out. If you've been speaking to the owner but the owner isn't on site the majority of the time, this could also explain a lot of the communication issues. Where was the \*director\* when this happened? If the director was not on site, who was designated as in charge? In my state, if the director is not on site, someone must be designated as in charge. Once you make your report to licensing as mentioned above, they should sort this out. I assume there was a teacher with your child while they were waiting for pickup? I would say the MOST likely situation is another employee filled out the incident report carelessly-- which could explain the discrepancy in what happened and the report. In my state, licensing requires an incident report to be signed at pickup, so you bet your butt as the director if someone got hurt in a way that might need medical care I was down there writing the report myself as soon as parents were called-- or I was providing first aid while the teacher filled it out next to me. That said, I also made sure every teacher who witnessed the incident had input and was listed on the report, and if I filled it out I indicated that I filled it out while so-and-so continued helping the child. I was SUPER apologetic when I had to make parents sign it before they left because I know nobody wants to do that, and I either had a copy ready for them to take or I emailed them a copy by the end of the day. IN CONCLUSION: To me, this sounds like terrible communication, bad/not followed protocols, and lack of emergency response training rather than the center deliberately being shifty. Filing a report with licensing should get licensing all up in their business to figure out where the protocols went wrong with no further investigation needed on your part-- once I had a licensing visit because a parent (who I had just given a "pay or leave" notice to) complained to licensing about their kid scraping their head on a tree nine months ago. If this had happened to my center, for a first-time incident, I'd be expecting several visits, mandatory training, and a re-write of the policies. Many people would not consider this "justice," but if every center that had a stupid teacher in charge of an injury got shut down, nobody would have daycare! It didn't take me long to learn that I just couldn't leave stupid teachers alone with any kids, and that I had to be on site at all times to supervise them. Unless your center's owner is stupid, you can probably get this resolved with no lawyers. Again, were this me, i would be BENDING OVER BACKWARDS to get you in touch with my insurance company to get your medical bills paid. I paid 400-600 a month in liability insurance SPECIFICALLY so if anyone got hurt, I didn't have to go to court or pay their bills out of my own pocket. If they give you any trouble, then get a lawyer involved. Oh, edited to add: If they are ANYTHING less than compliant and apologetic, find a new place. I kept families in similar situations, but ONLY because I again, bent over backwards to make them feel safe again, was nothing but transparent from the get-go, and fired teachers if they had done anything other than follow policy to the T in an emergency.
Former daycare employee: we were not allowed to call 911 unless it was life threatening without the parents permission. We were also not allowed to move a child if they wouldn't move on their own unless they were in immediate danger. But with an injury that serious the director definitley should have been on premise when you got there. Make sure to re read your daycare contract and see what they say their guidelines are for these situations. But since they lied they know they did something wrong, definitely ask for a copy of the incident report so you can have in writing what they say happened.
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The daycare itself should have reported this to the state because it's considered a serious injury. I would suggest you contact them as well. This is something that needs to be investigated regardless. Put all your concerns in an email to the director. Every update should be in writing. Also request the contact number for their insurance company to start a claim. My daughter had to get stitches from a fall at daycare and their insurance company took care of all the bills. I would suggest you consult with a personal injury lawyer, in case there are long term effects that need to be taken care of. In the end, remember this is a business and there are policies and procedures they should have adhered to. If they take offense at your reporting them, your son is probably better off somewhere else. They need to be held accountable for and retrained in areas if needed to help children in the future. Since both of you are in healthcare, the director may be open to your feedback in best practices in a future situation.
Not a lawyer, not in Maine, but have owned a daycare. This is based on my state's rules, Maine's are probably different, but this should give you a good starting point: If you take no other advice from this, contact your state's licensing office. Based on what you've said, I don't think anything bad-bad is going on, like abuse or the owner/director deliberately lying to you, but it DOES sound like there is some terrible communication (either incompetence, bad policy, or staff lying to the owner) and your center needs to undergo some mandated training on emergency protocols. The licensing office can investigate and make sure rules were followed. It sounds like the communication situation is really concerning. That would raise major red flags for me. The rest of it does not-- and here's why, based on my state. IN REGARDS TO THE INJURY: \--What are your state's rules regarding moving/providing aid to an injured child in childcare? In my state, we are allowed to secure the child's safety, and provide emergency first aid to stabilize a life-threatening situation. So, for example, we WOULD be allowed to apply pressure to stop bleeding, but we would NOT be allowed to sling your child's arm, wrap it, or touch it unless we absolutely had to to get your child out of harm's way. (We're also not supposed to do things like remove a splinter, to get you an idea of what first aid we are and are not allowed to provide.). According to the rules we go under, I probably would have gotten a pillow or mat to elevate your child's head, and wiped off his face or other scrapes NOT on his arm, but would NOT have moved him anywhere or touched his arm because I am not a medical professional. Did you ask them to call 911? In my state, for \*non life-threatening\* situations, we contact the parents first and then 911 only if the parent requests it or we cannot contact a parent/emergency contact. In all my First Aid trainings, I have been instructed not to call 911 for broken bones, unless it's a compound fracture, because of ambulance bills, so unless you requested, I would not have called 911 for your child. However, it was in my protocol to specifically ask parents if they wanted me to call 911 or if they wanted to pick the child up themselves. Again, this is for non life-threatening situations. You will want to find out what your state's requirements are for first aid/CPR trainings. In my state, at least 4 employees of a center must have current training, and one with training must be on site at all times. For liability, we tried to have one in each classroom with training. Questions you will want to ask: Did your center meet the state requirements? Did a person with first aid training respond to your child's injury. Unless the owner is stupid, they carry liability insurance exactly for stuff like this. You may not even need to pay a personal injury lawyer-- ask your provider who their insurance provider is and what the process is for making a claim. ​ IN REGARDS TO THE COMMUNICATION: The fact that the communication between the owners and staff was obviously inadequate is concerning. In my state, there must be a plan in place for communication. If the owner is not the director-on-site, you may want to request a meeting with the director to find out what was going on. Is your daycare owned by the director, or does the owner hire a director? This will probably be important later on down the line so you should find this out. If you've been speaking to the owner but the owner isn't on site the majority of the time, this could also explain a lot of the communication issues. Where was the \*director\* when this happened? If the director was not on site, who was designated as in charge? In my state, if the director is not on site, someone must be designated as in charge. Once you make your report to licensing as mentioned above, they should sort this out. I assume there was a teacher with your child while they were waiting for pickup? I would say the MOST likely situation is another employee filled out the incident report carelessly-- which could explain the discrepancy in what happened and the report. In my state, licensing requires an incident report to be signed at pickup, so you bet your butt as the director if someone got hurt in a way that might need medical care I was down there writing the report myself as soon as parents were called-- or I was providing first aid while the teacher filled it out next to me. That said, I also made sure every teacher who witnessed the incident had input and was listed on the report, and if I filled it out I indicated that I filled it out while so-and-so continued helping the child. I was SUPER apologetic when I had to make parents sign it before they left because I know nobody wants to do that, and I either had a copy ready for them to take or I emailed them a copy by the end of the day. IN CONCLUSION: To me, this sounds like terrible communication, bad/not followed protocols, and lack of emergency response training rather than the center deliberately being shifty. Filing a report with licensing should get licensing all up in their business to figure out where the protocols went wrong with no further investigation needed on your part-- once I had a licensing visit because a parent (who I had just given a "pay or leave" notice to) complained to licensing about their kid scraping their head on a tree nine months ago. If this had happened to my center, for a first-time incident, I'd be expecting several visits, mandatory training, and a re-write of the policies. Many people would not consider this "justice," but if every center that had a stupid teacher in charge of an injury got shut down, nobody would have daycare! It didn't take me long to learn that I just couldn't leave stupid teachers alone with any kids, and that I had to be on site at all times to supervise them. Unless your center's owner is stupid, you can probably get this resolved with no lawyers. Again, were this me, i would be BENDING OVER BACKWARDS to get you in touch with my insurance company to get your medical bills paid. I paid 400-600 a month in liability insurance SPECIFICALLY so if anyone got hurt, I didn't have to go to court or pay their bills out of my own pocket. If they give you any trouble, then get a lawyer involved. Oh, edited to add: If they are ANYTHING less than compliant and apologetic, find a new place. I kept families in similar situations, but ONLY because I again, bent over backwards to make them feel safe again, was nothing but transparent from the get-go, and fired teachers if they had done anything other than follow policy to the T in an emergency.
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Negligent care of child? Broken bones at daycare. Broken bone at childcare A few days ago, my child broke their wrist at daycare. It was serious, radius/ulnar, casting, multiple x rays, a surgical procedure, maybe another one, and of course time and pain at the ED, missed work for follow up appointments, I’m still being charged for daycare while I keep my child home for a few days or longer. Right away: I don’t feel having a broken wrist is entirely the daycare providers fault. Accidents happen. However, problem starts here: I got a voicemail stating my child was injured and broke his wrist. I have the voicemail. The provider indicated how obvious it was that it was broken. My spouse received the same voicemail. Since we are both in the medical field, we can’t answer our phones all the time. I received the voicemail, promptly, and made it to the school in less than 30 minutes. My son was still lying in the dirt with his head below his heart on the ground crying and screaming in pain. It was HORRIBLE. His arm was like 75 degrees displaced and laying in the dirt. They should have called 911! Tears down his face, dirt an over him. I hastily wrap his arm with an ACE wrap (I’m hands on medical professional) and muscle 50 pounds of child off the dirt and into my car. While I’m struggling to put my son in the car, an employee of the daycare shoved a clipboard on top of the car with an “incident report” to sign. I hastily sign and didn’t read it. Fast forward to the aftermath. I spoke to the owner, expressed my concern that the staff didn’t act appropriately with my son. The owner indicated that the staff told her they “picked up” and “cleaned up” my son. This is a bullshit lie. The owner admitted over the phone to me that story isn’t what the staff told her, they told her they helped my child up and cleaned him up. The staff felt concerned enough to LIE about their actions. I’m concerned. It’s a reputable daycare, but this response was not ideal. What should I do? Location: Maine
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When you enrolled your child at daycare, did you sign anything that allowed them to seek medical treatment? I know most daycares do for this exact reason.
Not a lawyer, not in Maine, but have owned a daycare. This is based on my state's rules, Maine's are probably different, but this should give you a good starting point: If you take no other advice from this, contact your state's licensing office. Based on what you've said, I don't think anything bad-bad is going on, like abuse or the owner/director deliberately lying to you, but it DOES sound like there is some terrible communication (either incompetence, bad policy, or staff lying to the owner) and your center needs to undergo some mandated training on emergency protocols. The licensing office can investigate and make sure rules were followed. It sounds like the communication situation is really concerning. That would raise major red flags for me. The rest of it does not-- and here's why, based on my state. IN REGARDS TO THE INJURY: \--What are your state's rules regarding moving/providing aid to an injured child in childcare? In my state, we are allowed to secure the child's safety, and provide emergency first aid to stabilize a life-threatening situation. So, for example, we WOULD be allowed to apply pressure to stop bleeding, but we would NOT be allowed to sling your child's arm, wrap it, or touch it unless we absolutely had to to get your child out of harm's way. (We're also not supposed to do things like remove a splinter, to get you an idea of what first aid we are and are not allowed to provide.). According to the rules we go under, I probably would have gotten a pillow or mat to elevate your child's head, and wiped off his face or other scrapes NOT on his arm, but would NOT have moved him anywhere or touched his arm because I am not a medical professional. Did you ask them to call 911? In my state, for \*non life-threatening\* situations, we contact the parents first and then 911 only if the parent requests it or we cannot contact a parent/emergency contact. In all my First Aid trainings, I have been instructed not to call 911 for broken bones, unless it's a compound fracture, because of ambulance bills, so unless you requested, I would not have called 911 for your child. However, it was in my protocol to specifically ask parents if they wanted me to call 911 or if they wanted to pick the child up themselves. Again, this is for non life-threatening situations. You will want to find out what your state's requirements are for first aid/CPR trainings. In my state, at least 4 employees of a center must have current training, and one with training must be on site at all times. For liability, we tried to have one in each classroom with training. Questions you will want to ask: Did your center meet the state requirements? Did a person with first aid training respond to your child's injury. Unless the owner is stupid, they carry liability insurance exactly for stuff like this. You may not even need to pay a personal injury lawyer-- ask your provider who their insurance provider is and what the process is for making a claim. ​ IN REGARDS TO THE COMMUNICATION: The fact that the communication between the owners and staff was obviously inadequate is concerning. In my state, there must be a plan in place for communication. If the owner is not the director-on-site, you may want to request a meeting with the director to find out what was going on. Is your daycare owned by the director, or does the owner hire a director? This will probably be important later on down the line so you should find this out. If you've been speaking to the owner but the owner isn't on site the majority of the time, this could also explain a lot of the communication issues. Where was the \*director\* when this happened? If the director was not on site, who was designated as in charge? In my state, if the director is not on site, someone must be designated as in charge. Once you make your report to licensing as mentioned above, they should sort this out. I assume there was a teacher with your child while they were waiting for pickup? I would say the MOST likely situation is another employee filled out the incident report carelessly-- which could explain the discrepancy in what happened and the report. In my state, licensing requires an incident report to be signed at pickup, so you bet your butt as the director if someone got hurt in a way that might need medical care I was down there writing the report myself as soon as parents were called-- or I was providing first aid while the teacher filled it out next to me. That said, I also made sure every teacher who witnessed the incident had input and was listed on the report, and if I filled it out I indicated that I filled it out while so-and-so continued helping the child. I was SUPER apologetic when I had to make parents sign it before they left because I know nobody wants to do that, and I either had a copy ready for them to take or I emailed them a copy by the end of the day. IN CONCLUSION: To me, this sounds like terrible communication, bad/not followed protocols, and lack of emergency response training rather than the center deliberately being shifty. Filing a report with licensing should get licensing all up in their business to figure out where the protocols went wrong with no further investigation needed on your part-- once I had a licensing visit because a parent (who I had just given a "pay or leave" notice to) complained to licensing about their kid scraping their head on a tree nine months ago. If this had happened to my center, for a first-time incident, I'd be expecting several visits, mandatory training, and a re-write of the policies. Many people would not consider this "justice," but if every center that had a stupid teacher in charge of an injury got shut down, nobody would have daycare! It didn't take me long to learn that I just couldn't leave stupid teachers alone with any kids, and that I had to be on site at all times to supervise them. Unless your center's owner is stupid, you can probably get this resolved with no lawyers. Again, were this me, i would be BENDING OVER BACKWARDS to get you in touch with my insurance company to get your medical bills paid. I paid 400-600 a month in liability insurance SPECIFICALLY so if anyone got hurt, I didn't have to go to court or pay their bills out of my own pocket. If they give you any trouble, then get a lawyer involved. Oh, edited to add: If they are ANYTHING less than compliant and apologetic, find a new place. I kept families in similar situations, but ONLY because I again, bent over backwards to make them feel safe again, was nothing but transparent from the get-go, and fired teachers if they had done anything other than follow policy to the T in an emergency.
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Negligent care of child? Broken bones at daycare. Broken bone at childcare A few days ago, my child broke their wrist at daycare. It was serious, radius/ulnar, casting, multiple x rays, a surgical procedure, maybe another one, and of course time and pain at the ED, missed work for follow up appointments, I’m still being charged for daycare while I keep my child home for a few days or longer. Right away: I don’t feel having a broken wrist is entirely the daycare providers fault. Accidents happen. However, problem starts here: I got a voicemail stating my child was injured and broke his wrist. I have the voicemail. The provider indicated how obvious it was that it was broken. My spouse received the same voicemail. Since we are both in the medical field, we can’t answer our phones all the time. I received the voicemail, promptly, and made it to the school in less than 30 minutes. My son was still lying in the dirt with his head below his heart on the ground crying and screaming in pain. It was HORRIBLE. His arm was like 75 degrees displaced and laying in the dirt. They should have called 911! Tears down his face, dirt an over him. I hastily wrap his arm with an ACE wrap (I’m hands on medical professional) and muscle 50 pounds of child off the dirt and into my car. While I’m struggling to put my son in the car, an employee of the daycare shoved a clipboard on top of the car with an “incident report” to sign. I hastily sign and didn’t read it. Fast forward to the aftermath. I spoke to the owner, expressed my concern that the staff didn’t act appropriately with my son. The owner indicated that the staff told her they “picked up” and “cleaned up” my son. This is a bullshit lie. The owner admitted over the phone to me that story isn’t what the staff told her, they told her they helped my child up and cleaned him up. The staff felt concerned enough to LIE about their actions. I’m concerned. It’s a reputable daycare, but this response was not ideal. What should I do? Location: Maine
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There should be footage, if it's a reputable daycare, there are likely cameras. You are well within rights to request to view the footage. Start there and determine if there was negligence, inappropriate response, or other issues. If there are, submit a report to your state's child care department.
Not a lawyer, not in Maine, but have owned a daycare. This is based on my state's rules, Maine's are probably different, but this should give you a good starting point: If you take no other advice from this, contact your state's licensing office. Based on what you've said, I don't think anything bad-bad is going on, like abuse or the owner/director deliberately lying to you, but it DOES sound like there is some terrible communication (either incompetence, bad policy, or staff lying to the owner) and your center needs to undergo some mandated training on emergency protocols. The licensing office can investigate and make sure rules were followed. It sounds like the communication situation is really concerning. That would raise major red flags for me. The rest of it does not-- and here's why, based on my state. IN REGARDS TO THE INJURY: \--What are your state's rules regarding moving/providing aid to an injured child in childcare? In my state, we are allowed to secure the child's safety, and provide emergency first aid to stabilize a life-threatening situation. So, for example, we WOULD be allowed to apply pressure to stop bleeding, but we would NOT be allowed to sling your child's arm, wrap it, or touch it unless we absolutely had to to get your child out of harm's way. (We're also not supposed to do things like remove a splinter, to get you an idea of what first aid we are and are not allowed to provide.). According to the rules we go under, I probably would have gotten a pillow or mat to elevate your child's head, and wiped off his face or other scrapes NOT on his arm, but would NOT have moved him anywhere or touched his arm because I am not a medical professional. Did you ask them to call 911? In my state, for \*non life-threatening\* situations, we contact the parents first and then 911 only if the parent requests it or we cannot contact a parent/emergency contact. In all my First Aid trainings, I have been instructed not to call 911 for broken bones, unless it's a compound fracture, because of ambulance bills, so unless you requested, I would not have called 911 for your child. However, it was in my protocol to specifically ask parents if they wanted me to call 911 or if they wanted to pick the child up themselves. Again, this is for non life-threatening situations. You will want to find out what your state's requirements are for first aid/CPR trainings. In my state, at least 4 employees of a center must have current training, and one with training must be on site at all times. For liability, we tried to have one in each classroom with training. Questions you will want to ask: Did your center meet the state requirements? Did a person with first aid training respond to your child's injury. Unless the owner is stupid, they carry liability insurance exactly for stuff like this. You may not even need to pay a personal injury lawyer-- ask your provider who their insurance provider is and what the process is for making a claim. ​ IN REGARDS TO THE COMMUNICATION: The fact that the communication between the owners and staff was obviously inadequate is concerning. In my state, there must be a plan in place for communication. If the owner is not the director-on-site, you may want to request a meeting with the director to find out what was going on. Is your daycare owned by the director, or does the owner hire a director? This will probably be important later on down the line so you should find this out. If you've been speaking to the owner but the owner isn't on site the majority of the time, this could also explain a lot of the communication issues. Where was the \*director\* when this happened? If the director was not on site, who was designated as in charge? In my state, if the director is not on site, someone must be designated as in charge. Once you make your report to licensing as mentioned above, they should sort this out. I assume there was a teacher with your child while they were waiting for pickup? I would say the MOST likely situation is another employee filled out the incident report carelessly-- which could explain the discrepancy in what happened and the report. In my state, licensing requires an incident report to be signed at pickup, so you bet your butt as the director if someone got hurt in a way that might need medical care I was down there writing the report myself as soon as parents were called-- or I was providing first aid while the teacher filled it out next to me. That said, I also made sure every teacher who witnessed the incident had input and was listed on the report, and if I filled it out I indicated that I filled it out while so-and-so continued helping the child. I was SUPER apologetic when I had to make parents sign it before they left because I know nobody wants to do that, and I either had a copy ready for them to take or I emailed them a copy by the end of the day. IN CONCLUSION: To me, this sounds like terrible communication, bad/not followed protocols, and lack of emergency response training rather than the center deliberately being shifty. Filing a report with licensing should get licensing all up in their business to figure out where the protocols went wrong with no further investigation needed on your part-- once I had a licensing visit because a parent (who I had just given a "pay or leave" notice to) complained to licensing about their kid scraping their head on a tree nine months ago. If this had happened to my center, for a first-time incident, I'd be expecting several visits, mandatory training, and a re-write of the policies. Many people would not consider this "justice," but if every center that had a stupid teacher in charge of an injury got shut down, nobody would have daycare! It didn't take me long to learn that I just couldn't leave stupid teachers alone with any kids, and that I had to be on site at all times to supervise them. Unless your center's owner is stupid, you can probably get this resolved with no lawyers. Again, were this me, i would be BENDING OVER BACKWARDS to get you in touch with my insurance company to get your medical bills paid. I paid 400-600 a month in liability insurance SPECIFICALLY so if anyone got hurt, I didn't have to go to court or pay their bills out of my own pocket. If they give you any trouble, then get a lawyer involved. Oh, edited to add: If they are ANYTHING less than compliant and apologetic, find a new place. I kept families in similar situations, but ONLY because I again, bent over backwards to make them feel safe again, was nothing but transparent from the get-go, and fired teachers if they had done anything other than follow policy to the T in an emergency.
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Negligent care of child? Broken bones at daycare. Broken bone at childcare A few days ago, my child broke their wrist at daycare. It was serious, radius/ulnar, casting, multiple x rays, a surgical procedure, maybe another one, and of course time and pain at the ED, missed work for follow up appointments, I’m still being charged for daycare while I keep my child home for a few days or longer. Right away: I don’t feel having a broken wrist is entirely the daycare providers fault. Accidents happen. However, problem starts here: I got a voicemail stating my child was injured and broke his wrist. I have the voicemail. The provider indicated how obvious it was that it was broken. My spouse received the same voicemail. Since we are both in the medical field, we can’t answer our phones all the time. I received the voicemail, promptly, and made it to the school in less than 30 minutes. My son was still lying in the dirt with his head below his heart on the ground crying and screaming in pain. It was HORRIBLE. His arm was like 75 degrees displaced and laying in the dirt. They should have called 911! Tears down his face, dirt an over him. I hastily wrap his arm with an ACE wrap (I’m hands on medical professional) and muscle 50 pounds of child off the dirt and into my car. While I’m struggling to put my son in the car, an employee of the daycare shoved a clipboard on top of the car with an “incident report” to sign. I hastily sign and didn’t read it. Fast forward to the aftermath. I spoke to the owner, expressed my concern that the staff didn’t act appropriately with my son. The owner indicated that the staff told her they “picked up” and “cleaned up” my son. This is a bullshit lie. The owner admitted over the phone to me that story isn’t what the staff told her, they told her they helped my child up and cleaned him up. The staff felt concerned enough to LIE about their actions. I’m concerned. It’s a reputable daycare, but this response was not ideal. What should I do? Location: Maine
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I used to work in child care; if you are worried about injuries, you can call a corporate parent (if they have one) if not, you can call state licensing and/or CPS. Every child care is bound by state licensing (regardless of ownership or faith-based status) State licensing takes it very seriously.
Not a lawyer, not in Maine, but have owned a daycare. This is based on my state's rules, Maine's are probably different, but this should give you a good starting point: If you take no other advice from this, contact your state's licensing office. Based on what you've said, I don't think anything bad-bad is going on, like abuse or the owner/director deliberately lying to you, but it DOES sound like there is some terrible communication (either incompetence, bad policy, or staff lying to the owner) and your center needs to undergo some mandated training on emergency protocols. The licensing office can investigate and make sure rules were followed. It sounds like the communication situation is really concerning. That would raise major red flags for me. The rest of it does not-- and here's why, based on my state. IN REGARDS TO THE INJURY: \--What are your state's rules regarding moving/providing aid to an injured child in childcare? In my state, we are allowed to secure the child's safety, and provide emergency first aid to stabilize a life-threatening situation. So, for example, we WOULD be allowed to apply pressure to stop bleeding, but we would NOT be allowed to sling your child's arm, wrap it, or touch it unless we absolutely had to to get your child out of harm's way. (We're also not supposed to do things like remove a splinter, to get you an idea of what first aid we are and are not allowed to provide.). According to the rules we go under, I probably would have gotten a pillow or mat to elevate your child's head, and wiped off his face or other scrapes NOT on his arm, but would NOT have moved him anywhere or touched his arm because I am not a medical professional. Did you ask them to call 911? In my state, for \*non life-threatening\* situations, we contact the parents first and then 911 only if the parent requests it or we cannot contact a parent/emergency contact. In all my First Aid trainings, I have been instructed not to call 911 for broken bones, unless it's a compound fracture, because of ambulance bills, so unless you requested, I would not have called 911 for your child. However, it was in my protocol to specifically ask parents if they wanted me to call 911 or if they wanted to pick the child up themselves. Again, this is for non life-threatening situations. You will want to find out what your state's requirements are for first aid/CPR trainings. In my state, at least 4 employees of a center must have current training, and one with training must be on site at all times. For liability, we tried to have one in each classroom with training. Questions you will want to ask: Did your center meet the state requirements? Did a person with first aid training respond to your child's injury. Unless the owner is stupid, they carry liability insurance exactly for stuff like this. You may not even need to pay a personal injury lawyer-- ask your provider who their insurance provider is and what the process is for making a claim. ​ IN REGARDS TO THE COMMUNICATION: The fact that the communication between the owners and staff was obviously inadequate is concerning. In my state, there must be a plan in place for communication. If the owner is not the director-on-site, you may want to request a meeting with the director to find out what was going on. Is your daycare owned by the director, or does the owner hire a director? This will probably be important later on down the line so you should find this out. If you've been speaking to the owner but the owner isn't on site the majority of the time, this could also explain a lot of the communication issues. Where was the \*director\* when this happened? If the director was not on site, who was designated as in charge? In my state, if the director is not on site, someone must be designated as in charge. Once you make your report to licensing as mentioned above, they should sort this out. I assume there was a teacher with your child while they were waiting for pickup? I would say the MOST likely situation is another employee filled out the incident report carelessly-- which could explain the discrepancy in what happened and the report. In my state, licensing requires an incident report to be signed at pickup, so you bet your butt as the director if someone got hurt in a way that might need medical care I was down there writing the report myself as soon as parents were called-- or I was providing first aid while the teacher filled it out next to me. That said, I also made sure every teacher who witnessed the incident had input and was listed on the report, and if I filled it out I indicated that I filled it out while so-and-so continued helping the child. I was SUPER apologetic when I had to make parents sign it before they left because I know nobody wants to do that, and I either had a copy ready for them to take or I emailed them a copy by the end of the day. IN CONCLUSION: To me, this sounds like terrible communication, bad/not followed protocols, and lack of emergency response training rather than the center deliberately being shifty. Filing a report with licensing should get licensing all up in their business to figure out where the protocols went wrong with no further investigation needed on your part-- once I had a licensing visit because a parent (who I had just given a "pay or leave" notice to) complained to licensing about their kid scraping their head on a tree nine months ago. If this had happened to my center, for a first-time incident, I'd be expecting several visits, mandatory training, and a re-write of the policies. Many people would not consider this "justice," but if every center that had a stupid teacher in charge of an injury got shut down, nobody would have daycare! It didn't take me long to learn that I just couldn't leave stupid teachers alone with any kids, and that I had to be on site at all times to supervise them. Unless your center's owner is stupid, you can probably get this resolved with no lawyers. Again, were this me, i would be BENDING OVER BACKWARDS to get you in touch with my insurance company to get your medical bills paid. I paid 400-600 a month in liability insurance SPECIFICALLY so if anyone got hurt, I didn't have to go to court or pay their bills out of my own pocket. If they give you any trouble, then get a lawyer involved. Oh, edited to add: If they are ANYTHING less than compliant and apologetic, find a new place. I kept families in similar situations, but ONLY because I again, bent over backwards to make them feel safe again, was nothing but transparent from the get-go, and fired teachers if they had done anything other than follow policy to the T in an emergency.
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Negligent care of child? Broken bones at daycare. Broken bone at childcare A few days ago, my child broke their wrist at daycare. It was serious, radius/ulnar, casting, multiple x rays, a surgical procedure, maybe another one, and of course time and pain at the ED, missed work for follow up appointments, I’m still being charged for daycare while I keep my child home for a few days or longer. Right away: I don’t feel having a broken wrist is entirely the daycare providers fault. Accidents happen. However, problem starts here: I got a voicemail stating my child was injured and broke his wrist. I have the voicemail. The provider indicated how obvious it was that it was broken. My spouse received the same voicemail. Since we are both in the medical field, we can’t answer our phones all the time. I received the voicemail, promptly, and made it to the school in less than 30 minutes. My son was still lying in the dirt with his head below his heart on the ground crying and screaming in pain. It was HORRIBLE. His arm was like 75 degrees displaced and laying in the dirt. They should have called 911! Tears down his face, dirt an over him. I hastily wrap his arm with an ACE wrap (I’m hands on medical professional) and muscle 50 pounds of child off the dirt and into my car. While I’m struggling to put my son in the car, an employee of the daycare shoved a clipboard on top of the car with an “incident report” to sign. I hastily sign and didn’t read it. Fast forward to the aftermath. I spoke to the owner, expressed my concern that the staff didn’t act appropriately with my son. The owner indicated that the staff told her they “picked up” and “cleaned up” my son. This is a bullshit lie. The owner admitted over the phone to me that story isn’t what the staff told her, they told her they helped my child up and cleaned him up. The staff felt concerned enough to LIE about their actions. I’m concerned. It’s a reputable daycare, but this response was not ideal. What should I do? Location: Maine
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When you enrolled your child at daycare, did you sign anything that allowed them to seek medical treatment? I know most daycares do for this exact reason.
Former daycare employee: we were not allowed to call 911 unless it was life threatening without the parents permission. We were also not allowed to move a child if they wouldn't move on their own unless they were in immediate danger. But with an injury that serious the director definitley should have been on premise when you got there. Make sure to re read your daycare contract and see what they say their guidelines are for these situations. But since they lied they know they did something wrong, definitely ask for a copy of the incident report so you can have in writing what they say happened.
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Negligent care of child? Broken bones at daycare. Broken bone at childcare A few days ago, my child broke their wrist at daycare. It was serious, radius/ulnar, casting, multiple x rays, a surgical procedure, maybe another one, and of course time and pain at the ED, missed work for follow up appointments, I’m still being charged for daycare while I keep my child home for a few days or longer. Right away: I don’t feel having a broken wrist is entirely the daycare providers fault. Accidents happen. However, problem starts here: I got a voicemail stating my child was injured and broke his wrist. I have the voicemail. The provider indicated how obvious it was that it was broken. My spouse received the same voicemail. Since we are both in the medical field, we can’t answer our phones all the time. I received the voicemail, promptly, and made it to the school in less than 30 minutes. My son was still lying in the dirt with his head below his heart on the ground crying and screaming in pain. It was HORRIBLE. His arm was like 75 degrees displaced and laying in the dirt. They should have called 911! Tears down his face, dirt an over him. I hastily wrap his arm with an ACE wrap (I’m hands on medical professional) and muscle 50 pounds of child off the dirt and into my car. While I’m struggling to put my son in the car, an employee of the daycare shoved a clipboard on top of the car with an “incident report” to sign. I hastily sign and didn’t read it. Fast forward to the aftermath. I spoke to the owner, expressed my concern that the staff didn’t act appropriately with my son. The owner indicated that the staff told her they “picked up” and “cleaned up” my son. This is a bullshit lie. The owner admitted over the phone to me that story isn’t what the staff told her, they told her they helped my child up and cleaned him up. The staff felt concerned enough to LIE about their actions. I’m concerned. It’s a reputable daycare, but this response was not ideal. What should I do? Location: Maine
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There should be footage, if it's a reputable daycare, there are likely cameras. You are well within rights to request to view the footage. Start there and determine if there was negligence, inappropriate response, or other issues. If there are, submit a report to your state's child care department.
The daycare itself should have reported this to the state because it's considered a serious injury. I would suggest you contact them as well. This is something that needs to be investigated regardless. Put all your concerns in an email to the director. Every update should be in writing. Also request the contact number for their insurance company to start a claim. My daughter had to get stitches from a fall at daycare and their insurance company took care of all the bills. I would suggest you consult with a personal injury lawyer, in case there are long term effects that need to be taken care of. In the end, remember this is a business and there are policies and procedures they should have adhered to. If they take offense at your reporting them, your son is probably better off somewhere else. They need to be held accountable for and retrained in areas if needed to help children in the future. Since both of you are in healthcare, the director may be open to your feedback in best practices in a future situation.
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Negligent care of child? Broken bones at daycare. Broken bone at childcare A few days ago, my child broke their wrist at daycare. It was serious, radius/ulnar, casting, multiple x rays, a surgical procedure, maybe another one, and of course time and pain at the ED, missed work for follow up appointments, I’m still being charged for daycare while I keep my child home for a few days or longer. Right away: I don’t feel having a broken wrist is entirely the daycare providers fault. Accidents happen. However, problem starts here: I got a voicemail stating my child was injured and broke his wrist. I have the voicemail. The provider indicated how obvious it was that it was broken. My spouse received the same voicemail. Since we are both in the medical field, we can’t answer our phones all the time. I received the voicemail, promptly, and made it to the school in less than 30 minutes. My son was still lying in the dirt with his head below his heart on the ground crying and screaming in pain. It was HORRIBLE. His arm was like 75 degrees displaced and laying in the dirt. They should have called 911! Tears down his face, dirt an over him. I hastily wrap his arm with an ACE wrap (I’m hands on medical professional) and muscle 50 pounds of child off the dirt and into my car. While I’m struggling to put my son in the car, an employee of the daycare shoved a clipboard on top of the car with an “incident report” to sign. I hastily sign and didn’t read it. Fast forward to the aftermath. I spoke to the owner, expressed my concern that the staff didn’t act appropriately with my son. The owner indicated that the staff told her they “picked up” and “cleaned up” my son. This is a bullshit lie. The owner admitted over the phone to me that story isn’t what the staff told her, they told her they helped my child up and cleaned him up. The staff felt concerned enough to LIE about their actions. I’m concerned. It’s a reputable daycare, but this response was not ideal. What should I do? Location: Maine
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I used to work in child care; if you are worried about injuries, you can call a corporate parent (if they have one) if not, you can call state licensing and/or CPS. Every child care is bound by state licensing (regardless of ownership or faith-based status) State licensing takes it very seriously.
The daycare itself should have reported this to the state because it's considered a serious injury. I would suggest you contact them as well. This is something that needs to be investigated regardless. Put all your concerns in an email to the director. Every update should be in writing. Also request the contact number for their insurance company to start a claim. My daughter had to get stitches from a fall at daycare and their insurance company took care of all the bills. I would suggest you consult with a personal injury lawyer, in case there are long term effects that need to be taken care of. In the end, remember this is a business and there are policies and procedures they should have adhered to. If they take offense at your reporting them, your son is probably better off somewhere else. They need to be held accountable for and retrained in areas if needed to help children in the future. Since both of you are in healthcare, the director may be open to your feedback in best practices in a future situation.
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Negligent care of child? Broken bones at daycare. Broken bone at childcare A few days ago, my child broke their wrist at daycare. It was serious, radius/ulnar, casting, multiple x rays, a surgical procedure, maybe another one, and of course time and pain at the ED, missed work for follow up appointments, I’m still being charged for daycare while I keep my child home for a few days or longer. Right away: I don’t feel having a broken wrist is entirely the daycare providers fault. Accidents happen. However, problem starts here: I got a voicemail stating my child was injured and broke his wrist. I have the voicemail. The provider indicated how obvious it was that it was broken. My spouse received the same voicemail. Since we are both in the medical field, we can’t answer our phones all the time. I received the voicemail, promptly, and made it to the school in less than 30 minutes. My son was still lying in the dirt with his head below his heart on the ground crying and screaming in pain. It was HORRIBLE. His arm was like 75 degrees displaced and laying in the dirt. They should have called 911! Tears down his face, dirt an over him. I hastily wrap his arm with an ACE wrap (I’m hands on medical professional) and muscle 50 pounds of child off the dirt and into my car. While I’m struggling to put my son in the car, an employee of the daycare shoved a clipboard on top of the car with an “incident report” to sign. I hastily sign and didn’t read it. Fast forward to the aftermath. I spoke to the owner, expressed my concern that the staff didn’t act appropriately with my son. The owner indicated that the staff told her they “picked up” and “cleaned up” my son. This is a bullshit lie. The owner admitted over the phone to me that story isn’t what the staff told her, they told her they helped my child up and cleaned him up. The staff felt concerned enough to LIE about their actions. I’m concerned. It’s a reputable daycare, but this response was not ideal. What should I do? Location: Maine
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You call your state licensing agency and report them.
I deal with daycares, this could vary state to state depending on your states definition of negligence and the surrounding rules regarding injuries and reporting. This doesn't seem like negligence unless the condition they left your child in caused further injury. When they were unable to reach you they should have called 911 or had a plan to transport your child to a medical facility. Usually in their policies they have outlined their emergency medical procedures. It's not uncommon for a Director to take a child to urgent care or the ER if an ambulance isn't warranted, and often a parent signs off on emergency medical transportation permission on an admission form or with receipt of policies. What you do have is a case of bad judgment which is usually outlined in your states standards daycares have to follow. It also seems there was a breakdown of their rules and policies. As mentioned, how they handle regency medical situations is likely outlined somewhere, and I would be concerned who was in charge, where they were, and why the actions taken were what they were. You can reporting this to your state licensing and they are likely required to or should have already as well. Again not a lawyer, but in my state this wouldn't be negligence. Just poor judgment and possibly some other citations like not following their policies and improper handling of medical emergencies.
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Negligent care of child? Broken bones at daycare. Broken bone at childcare A few days ago, my child broke their wrist at daycare. It was serious, radius/ulnar, casting, multiple x rays, a surgical procedure, maybe another one, and of course time and pain at the ED, missed work for follow up appointments, I’m still being charged for daycare while I keep my child home for a few days or longer. Right away: I don’t feel having a broken wrist is entirely the daycare providers fault. Accidents happen. However, problem starts here: I got a voicemail stating my child was injured and broke his wrist. I have the voicemail. The provider indicated how obvious it was that it was broken. My spouse received the same voicemail. Since we are both in the medical field, we can’t answer our phones all the time. I received the voicemail, promptly, and made it to the school in less than 30 minutes. My son was still lying in the dirt with his head below his heart on the ground crying and screaming in pain. It was HORRIBLE. His arm was like 75 degrees displaced and laying in the dirt. They should have called 911! Tears down his face, dirt an over him. I hastily wrap his arm with an ACE wrap (I’m hands on medical professional) and muscle 50 pounds of child off the dirt and into my car. While I’m struggling to put my son in the car, an employee of the daycare shoved a clipboard on top of the car with an “incident report” to sign. I hastily sign and didn’t read it. Fast forward to the aftermath. I spoke to the owner, expressed my concern that the staff didn’t act appropriately with my son. The owner indicated that the staff told her they “picked up” and “cleaned up” my son. This is a bullshit lie. The owner admitted over the phone to me that story isn’t what the staff told her, they told her they helped my child up and cleaned him up. The staff felt concerned enough to LIE about their actions. I’m concerned. It’s a reputable daycare, but this response was not ideal. What should I do? Location: Maine
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You call your state licensing agency and report them.
There should be footage, if it's a reputable daycare, there are likely cameras. You are well within rights to request to view the footage. Start there and determine if there was negligence, inappropriate response, or other issues. If there are, submit a report to your state's child care department.
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Negligent care of child? Broken bones at daycare. Broken bone at childcare A few days ago, my child broke their wrist at daycare. It was serious, radius/ulnar, casting, multiple x rays, a surgical procedure, maybe another one, and of course time and pain at the ED, missed work for follow up appointments, I’m still being charged for daycare while I keep my child home for a few days or longer. Right away: I don’t feel having a broken wrist is entirely the daycare providers fault. Accidents happen. However, problem starts here: I got a voicemail stating my child was injured and broke his wrist. I have the voicemail. The provider indicated how obvious it was that it was broken. My spouse received the same voicemail. Since we are both in the medical field, we can’t answer our phones all the time. I received the voicemail, promptly, and made it to the school in less than 30 minutes. My son was still lying in the dirt with his head below his heart on the ground crying and screaming in pain. It was HORRIBLE. His arm was like 75 degrees displaced and laying in the dirt. They should have called 911! Tears down his face, dirt an over him. I hastily wrap his arm with an ACE wrap (I’m hands on medical professional) and muscle 50 pounds of child off the dirt and into my car. While I’m struggling to put my son in the car, an employee of the daycare shoved a clipboard on top of the car with an “incident report” to sign. I hastily sign and didn’t read it. Fast forward to the aftermath. I spoke to the owner, expressed my concern that the staff didn’t act appropriately with my son. The owner indicated that the staff told her they “picked up” and “cleaned up” my son. This is a bullshit lie. The owner admitted over the phone to me that story isn’t what the staff told her, they told her they helped my child up and cleaned him up. The staff felt concerned enough to LIE about their actions. I’m concerned. It’s a reputable daycare, but this response was not ideal. What should I do? Location: Maine
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I used to work in child care; if you are worried about injuries, you can call a corporate parent (if they have one) if not, you can call state licensing and/or CPS. Every child care is bound by state licensing (regardless of ownership or faith-based status) State licensing takes it very seriously.
You call your state licensing agency and report them.
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Negligent care of child? Broken bones at daycare. Broken bone at childcare A few days ago, my child broke their wrist at daycare. It was serious, radius/ulnar, casting, multiple x rays, a surgical procedure, maybe another one, and of course time and pain at the ED, missed work for follow up appointments, I’m still being charged for daycare while I keep my child home for a few days or longer. Right away: I don’t feel having a broken wrist is entirely the daycare providers fault. Accidents happen. However, problem starts here: I got a voicemail stating my child was injured and broke his wrist. I have the voicemail. The provider indicated how obvious it was that it was broken. My spouse received the same voicemail. Since we are both in the medical field, we can’t answer our phones all the time. I received the voicemail, promptly, and made it to the school in less than 30 minutes. My son was still lying in the dirt with his head below his heart on the ground crying and screaming in pain. It was HORRIBLE. His arm was like 75 degrees displaced and laying in the dirt. They should have called 911! Tears down his face, dirt an over him. I hastily wrap his arm with an ACE wrap (I’m hands on medical professional) and muscle 50 pounds of child off the dirt and into my car. While I’m struggling to put my son in the car, an employee of the daycare shoved a clipboard on top of the car with an “incident report” to sign. I hastily sign and didn’t read it. Fast forward to the aftermath. I spoke to the owner, expressed my concern that the staff didn’t act appropriately with my son. The owner indicated that the staff told her they “picked up” and “cleaned up” my son. This is a bullshit lie. The owner admitted over the phone to me that story isn’t what the staff told her, they told her they helped my child up and cleaned him up. The staff felt concerned enough to LIE about their actions. I’m concerned. It’s a reputable daycare, but this response was not ideal. What should I do? Location: Maine
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I deal with daycares, this could vary state to state depending on your states definition of negligence and the surrounding rules regarding injuries and reporting. This doesn't seem like negligence unless the condition they left your child in caused further injury. When they were unable to reach you they should have called 911 or had a plan to transport your child to a medical facility. Usually in their policies they have outlined their emergency medical procedures. It's not uncommon for a Director to take a child to urgent care or the ER if an ambulance isn't warranted, and often a parent signs off on emergency medical transportation permission on an admission form or with receipt of policies. What you do have is a case of bad judgment which is usually outlined in your states standards daycares have to follow. It also seems there was a breakdown of their rules and policies. As mentioned, how they handle regency medical situations is likely outlined somewhere, and I would be concerned who was in charge, where they were, and why the actions taken were what they were. You can reporting this to your state licensing and they are likely required to or should have already as well. Again not a lawyer, but in my state this wouldn't be negligence. Just poor judgment and possibly some other citations like not following their policies and improper handling of medical emergencies.
There should be footage, if it's a reputable daycare, there are likely cameras. You are well within rights to request to view the footage. Start there and determine if there was negligence, inappropriate response, or other issues. If there are, submit a report to your state's child care department.
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Negligent care of child? Broken bones at daycare. Broken bone at childcare A few days ago, my child broke their wrist at daycare. It was serious, radius/ulnar, casting, multiple x rays, a surgical procedure, maybe another one, and of course time and pain at the ED, missed work for follow up appointments, I’m still being charged for daycare while I keep my child home for a few days or longer. Right away: I don’t feel having a broken wrist is entirely the daycare providers fault. Accidents happen. However, problem starts here: I got a voicemail stating my child was injured and broke his wrist. I have the voicemail. The provider indicated how obvious it was that it was broken. My spouse received the same voicemail. Since we are both in the medical field, we can’t answer our phones all the time. I received the voicemail, promptly, and made it to the school in less than 30 minutes. My son was still lying in the dirt with his head below his heart on the ground crying and screaming in pain. It was HORRIBLE. His arm was like 75 degrees displaced and laying in the dirt. They should have called 911! Tears down his face, dirt an over him. I hastily wrap his arm with an ACE wrap (I’m hands on medical professional) and muscle 50 pounds of child off the dirt and into my car. While I’m struggling to put my son in the car, an employee of the daycare shoved a clipboard on top of the car with an “incident report” to sign. I hastily sign and didn’t read it. Fast forward to the aftermath. I spoke to the owner, expressed my concern that the staff didn’t act appropriately with my son. The owner indicated that the staff told her they “picked up” and “cleaned up” my son. This is a bullshit lie. The owner admitted over the phone to me that story isn’t what the staff told her, they told her they helped my child up and cleaned him up. The staff felt concerned enough to LIE about their actions. I’m concerned. It’s a reputable daycare, but this response was not ideal. What should I do? Location: Maine
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I used to work in child care; if you are worried about injuries, you can call a corporate parent (if they have one) if not, you can call state licensing and/or CPS. Every child care is bound by state licensing (regardless of ownership or faith-based status) State licensing takes it very seriously.
I deal with daycares, this could vary state to state depending on your states definition of negligence and the surrounding rules regarding injuries and reporting. This doesn't seem like negligence unless the condition they left your child in caused further injury. When they were unable to reach you they should have called 911 or had a plan to transport your child to a medical facility. Usually in their policies they have outlined their emergency medical procedures. It's not uncommon for a Director to take a child to urgent care or the ER if an ambulance isn't warranted, and often a parent signs off on emergency medical transportation permission on an admission form or with receipt of policies. What you do have is a case of bad judgment which is usually outlined in your states standards daycares have to follow. It also seems there was a breakdown of their rules and policies. As mentioned, how they handle regency medical situations is likely outlined somewhere, and I would be concerned who was in charge, where they were, and why the actions taken were what they were. You can reporting this to your state licensing and they are likely required to or should have already as well. Again not a lawyer, but in my state this wouldn't be negligence. Just poor judgment and possibly some other citations like not following their policies and improper handling of medical emergencies.
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Wife threatening me with child support for someone elses kid? My wife and I have been separated for 6 years, she had a kid recently, and is threatening me with child support for this kid. She lives in CA, and I haven't stepped foot in CA for over a year. I live, and have lived over 5000 miles away, from her for over a year. Kid is less than a year. I know state laws vary, but do I have to fly to CA just for a DNA test so I don't have to pay for some other guys kid? Is she even able to claim that kid is mine, even if someone else signed the Birth Certificate? Thank you.
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Separated or divorced, it may make a difference because I hear in some places you might be assumed to be the father if you are still married.
In CA, you’re presumed to be the father unless you or the other guy challenges it in a court action. You need an attorney for this as it’s not a simple issue at all.
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Wife threatening me with child support for someone elses kid? My wife and I have been separated for 6 years, she had a kid recently, and is threatening me with child support for this kid. She lives in CA, and I haven't stepped foot in CA for over a year. I live, and have lived over 5000 miles away, from her for over a year. Kid is less than a year. I know state laws vary, but do I have to fly to CA just for a DNA test so I don't have to pay for some other guys kid? Is she even able to claim that kid is mine, even if someone else signed the Birth Certificate? Thank you.
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You need a lawyer. If you are still married to her, you can definitely be on the hook for child support. You should have divorced her six years ago. Edit: I am not a lawyer.
You really did leave yourself legally vulnerable by staying married, but if someone else DID sign the birth certificate you may have some recourse. But really, you want a real, live, gotta-pay-for-them lawyer at this point, specializing in family law & divorce. Whoever advised you six years ago? Don't go back to them. Either they misled you or you misunderstood them for whatever reason.
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Wife threatening me with child support for someone elses kid? My wife and I have been separated for 6 years, she had a kid recently, and is threatening me with child support for this kid. She lives in CA, and I haven't stepped foot in CA for over a year. I live, and have lived over 5000 miles away, from her for over a year. Kid is less than a year. I know state laws vary, but do I have to fly to CA just for a DNA test so I don't have to pay for some other guys kid? Is she even able to claim that kid is mine, even if someone else signed the Birth Certificate? Thank you.
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You need a lawyer. If you are still married to her, you can definitely be on the hook for child support. You should have divorced her six years ago. Edit: I am not a lawyer.
I am a family law attorney in Southern California, and OP has some seriously incorrect assumptions about what happened here. Also, I don't know who you talked to or what research you did, but California is about as liberal as it comes with awarding custody to Dad if the circumstances are appropriate. Basically, stop acting like you know fuckall about the situation and talk to a professional so you can stop screwing up.
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Wife threatening me with child support for someone elses kid? My wife and I have been separated for 6 years, she had a kid recently, and is threatening me with child support for this kid. She lives in CA, and I haven't stepped foot in CA for over a year. I live, and have lived over 5000 miles away, from her for over a year. Kid is less than a year. I know state laws vary, but do I have to fly to CA just for a DNA test so I don't have to pay for some other guys kid? Is she even able to claim that kid is mine, even if someone else signed the Birth Certificate? Thank you.
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\> I know state laws vary, but do I have to fly to CA just for a DNA test so I don't have to pay for some other guys kid? You can probably have everything done locally. Get a lawyer to help with the paternity, and get a divorce ASAP. As long as you're married, there are a lot of unnecessary risks you are taking. If you were in CA, you might consider not having a lawyer, since this is somewhat straightforward \(though I wouldn't advise it given the expensive consequences\), but trying to do this without a lawyer across state lines is even more of a bad idea.
I am a family law attorney in Southern California, and OP has some seriously incorrect assumptions about what happened here. Also, I don't know who you talked to or what research you did, but California is about as liberal as it comes with awarding custody to Dad if the circumstances are appropriate. Basically, stop acting like you know fuckall about the situation and talk to a professional so you can stop screwing up.
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I am a family law attorney in Southern California, and OP has some seriously incorrect assumptions about what happened here. Also, I don't know who you talked to or what research you did, but California is about as liberal as it comes with awarding custody to Dad if the circumstances are appropriate. Basically, stop acting like you know fuckall about the situation and talk to a professional so you can stop screwing up.
Time off work, attorney fees, travel expenses, and thd dna test are all going to be cheaper than 18 years of child support. In addition to nullifying your responsibility for child support regarding this child that isn't yours, make sure you finalize the divorce, or you leave yourself open to this happening again.
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I am a family law attorney in Southern California, and OP has some seriously incorrect assumptions about what happened here. Also, I don't know who you talked to or what research you did, but California is about as liberal as it comes with awarding custody to Dad if the circumstances are appropriate. Basically, stop acting like you know fuckall about the situation and talk to a professional so you can stop screwing up.
Time to get a family law attorney and figure out divorce and child custody.
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Wife threatening me with child support for someone elses kid? My wife and I have been separated for 6 years, she had a kid recently, and is threatening me with child support for this kid. She lives in CA, and I haven't stepped foot in CA for over a year. I live, and have lived over 5000 miles away, from her for over a year. Kid is less than a year. I know state laws vary, but do I have to fly to CA just for a DNA test so I don't have to pay for some other guys kid? Is she even able to claim that kid is mine, even if someone else signed the Birth Certificate? Thank you.
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I am a family law attorney in Southern California, and OP has some seriously incorrect assumptions about what happened here. Also, I don't know who you talked to or what research you did, but California is about as liberal as it comes with awarding custody to Dad if the circumstances are appropriate. Basically, stop acting like you know fuckall about the situation and talk to a professional so you can stop screwing up.
IF YOU ARE SERVED DOCUMENTS CLAIMING YOU ARE THE FATHER, YOU NEED TO RESPOND IN COURT IN CALIFORNIA. Any other response in here is secondary to that. I am not a lawyer.
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Wife threatening me with child support for someone elses kid? My wife and I have been separated for 6 years, she had a kid recently, and is threatening me with child support for this kid. She lives in CA, and I haven't stepped foot in CA for over a year. I live, and have lived over 5000 miles away, from her for over a year. Kid is less than a year. I know state laws vary, but do I have to fly to CA just for a DNA test so I don't have to pay for some other guys kid? Is she even able to claim that kid is mine, even if someone else signed the Birth Certificate? Thank you.
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Time off work, attorney fees, travel expenses, and thd dna test are all going to be cheaper than 18 years of child support. In addition to nullifying your responsibility for child support regarding this child that isn't yours, make sure you finalize the divorce, or you leave yourself open to this happening again.
Time to get a family law attorney and figure out divorce and child custody.
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Robinhood trading app has given my account to someone else, locked me out, and won't respond to contact. Now what? This is in Pennsylvania, USA. I had just over $40K in the Robinhood trading app. One day I woke up to a list of e-mail notifications saying things along the lines of "thanks for changing your personal information, thanks for opening a debit account, thanks for charging $5,000, thanks for selling X stocks" from Robinhood. Obviously someone had broken into my account, changed the personal information, and was stealing my money. My account was set up for 2-factor authentication, so it should have been impossible for someone to break in without me getting a text, but here we are. This should be a no-brainer for Robinhood to identify and resolve, right? Wrong. There's literally no way to contact Robinhood directly outside of sending them an e-mail. When I e-mail them, they respond with form letters saying "thanks for contacting us, we'll look into it and get back to you." It's been a week. In the meantime there's no way to access my account (the thief changed the password), I have no idea what's happening to my money, or if/when I'll get it back. I need that money; it's basically my life's savings. If you've never tried to contact Robinhood before you may think I'm exaggerating how difficult it is, but there are actually several lawsuits from people in similar situations. Apparently they're famous for just not responding to theft cases. It seems I may need to sue them to get my money back. And even if I get it back, I feel like I'm owed something for this amount of stress, not to mention however much money I'm losing by not being able to buy and sell as I had planned. How do I find an attorney who can help me with this?
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Filing a complaint with FINRA would seem to be in order: https://www.finra.org/investors/have-problem/file-complaint/complaint-center (As an aside, I personally would advise, at the very least, caution when working with Robinhood. When I attempted to close my fortunately inactive and empty account with them, I too discovered their only communication method is email... which was problematic when they required me to verify my identity by sending them PII including date of birth and social security number over a non-encrypted email. They argued that their "bank-level security" would protect it, which I argued doesn't protect anything when in transit to them over non-encrypted email.)
/r/personalfinance might be able to tell you what regulators to get involved.
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Robinhood trading app has given my account to someone else, locked me out, and won't respond to contact. Now what? This is in Pennsylvania, USA. I had just over $40K in the Robinhood trading app. One day I woke up to a list of e-mail notifications saying things along the lines of "thanks for changing your personal information, thanks for opening a debit account, thanks for charging $5,000, thanks for selling X stocks" from Robinhood. Obviously someone had broken into my account, changed the personal information, and was stealing my money. My account was set up for 2-factor authentication, so it should have been impossible for someone to break in without me getting a text, but here we are. This should be a no-brainer for Robinhood to identify and resolve, right? Wrong. There's literally no way to contact Robinhood directly outside of sending them an e-mail. When I e-mail them, they respond with form letters saying "thanks for contacting us, we'll look into it and get back to you." It's been a week. In the meantime there's no way to access my account (the thief changed the password), I have no idea what's happening to my money, or if/when I'll get it back. I need that money; it's basically my life's savings. If you've never tried to contact Robinhood before you may think I'm exaggerating how difficult it is, but there are actually several lawsuits from people in similar situations. Apparently they're famous for just not responding to theft cases. It seems I may need to sue them to get my money back. And even if I get it back, I feel like I'm owed something for this amount of stress, not to mention however much money I'm losing by not being able to buy and sell as I had planned. How do I find an attorney who can help me with this?
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Filing a complaint with FINRA would seem to be in order: https://www.finra.org/investors/have-problem/file-complaint/complaint-center (As an aside, I personally would advise, at the very least, caution when working with Robinhood. When I attempted to close my fortunately inactive and empty account with them, I too discovered their only communication method is email... which was problematic when they required me to verify my identity by sending them PII including date of birth and social security number over a non-encrypted email. They argued that their "bank-level security" would protect it, which I argued doesn't protect anything when in transit to them over non-encrypted email.)
Lawsuits should be your last option against a large corporation as the cost of litigation would exceed your loses. Keep up with the emails and document all communications sent and received. File a complaint with FINRA https://www.finra.org/investors/have-problem/file-complaint including attaching all of the correspondence so far. You also need to adjust your expectations...your recovery out of this is going to be limited to the amount in the account pre-takeover only. You won't get money for stress or for lost opportunity. And that isn't a guarantee. RH is playing hardball with everyone whose account has been compromised.
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Robinhood trading app has given my account to someone else, locked me out, and won't respond to contact. Now what? This is in Pennsylvania, USA. I had just over $40K in the Robinhood trading app. One day I woke up to a list of e-mail notifications saying things along the lines of "thanks for changing your personal information, thanks for opening a debit account, thanks for charging $5,000, thanks for selling X stocks" from Robinhood. Obviously someone had broken into my account, changed the personal information, and was stealing my money. My account was set up for 2-factor authentication, so it should have been impossible for someone to break in without me getting a text, but here we are. This should be a no-brainer for Robinhood to identify and resolve, right? Wrong. There's literally no way to contact Robinhood directly outside of sending them an e-mail. When I e-mail them, they respond with form letters saying "thanks for contacting us, we'll look into it and get back to you." It's been a week. In the meantime there's no way to access my account (the thief changed the password), I have no idea what's happening to my money, or if/when I'll get it back. I need that money; it's basically my life's savings. If you've never tried to contact Robinhood before you may think I'm exaggerating how difficult it is, but there are actually several lawsuits from people in similar situations. Apparently they're famous for just not responding to theft cases. It seems I may need to sue them to get my money back. And even if I get it back, I feel like I'm owed something for this amount of stress, not to mention however much money I'm losing by not being able to buy and sell as I had planned. How do I find an attorney who can help me with this?
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You should speak to an attorney ASAP. Some will say the cost will outpace the return, but remember that this is reddit and they may not know of what they speak, and $40,000 is not a small amount of money. An attorney will give you an idea of the costs and how those costs might be paid for. Also begin the paper trail. Call the police. Get a report on file. This is likely way outside anything the police can do, but you want as much documentation as possible at this point. Good luck.
/r/personalfinance might be able to tell you what regulators to get involved.
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Robinhood trading app has given my account to someone else, locked me out, and won't respond to contact. Now what? This is in Pennsylvania, USA. I had just over $40K in the Robinhood trading app. One day I woke up to a list of e-mail notifications saying things along the lines of "thanks for changing your personal information, thanks for opening a debit account, thanks for charging $5,000, thanks for selling X stocks" from Robinhood. Obviously someone had broken into my account, changed the personal information, and was stealing my money. My account was set up for 2-factor authentication, so it should have been impossible for someone to break in without me getting a text, but here we are. This should be a no-brainer for Robinhood to identify and resolve, right? Wrong. There's literally no way to contact Robinhood directly outside of sending them an e-mail. When I e-mail them, they respond with form letters saying "thanks for contacting us, we'll look into it and get back to you." It's been a week. In the meantime there's no way to access my account (the thief changed the password), I have no idea what's happening to my money, or if/when I'll get it back. I need that money; it's basically my life's savings. If you've never tried to contact Robinhood before you may think I'm exaggerating how difficult it is, but there are actually several lawsuits from people in similar situations. Apparently they're famous for just not responding to theft cases. It seems I may need to sue them to get my money back. And even if I get it back, I feel like I'm owed something for this amount of stress, not to mention however much money I'm losing by not being able to buy and sell as I had planned. How do I find an attorney who can help me with this?
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You should speak to an attorney ASAP. Some will say the cost will outpace the return, but remember that this is reddit and they may not know of what they speak, and $40,000 is not a small amount of money. An attorney will give you an idea of the costs and how those costs might be paid for. Also begin the paper trail. Call the police. Get a report on file. This is likely way outside anything the police can do, but you want as much documentation as possible at this point. Good luck.
Lawsuits should be your last option against a large corporation as the cost of litigation would exceed your loses. Keep up with the emails and document all communications sent and received. File a complaint with FINRA https://www.finra.org/investors/have-problem/file-complaint including attaching all of the correspondence so far. You also need to adjust your expectations...your recovery out of this is going to be limited to the amount in the account pre-takeover only. You won't get money for stress or for lost opportunity. And that isn't a guarantee. RH is playing hardball with everyone whose account has been compromised.
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Robinhood trading app has given my account to someone else, locked me out, and won't respond to contact. Now what? This is in Pennsylvania, USA. I had just over $40K in the Robinhood trading app. One day I woke up to a list of e-mail notifications saying things along the lines of "thanks for changing your personal information, thanks for opening a debit account, thanks for charging $5,000, thanks for selling X stocks" from Robinhood. Obviously someone had broken into my account, changed the personal information, and was stealing my money. My account was set up for 2-factor authentication, so it should have been impossible for someone to break in without me getting a text, but here we are. This should be a no-brainer for Robinhood to identify and resolve, right? Wrong. There's literally no way to contact Robinhood directly outside of sending them an e-mail. When I e-mail them, they respond with form letters saying "thanks for contacting us, we'll look into it and get back to you." It's been a week. In the meantime there's no way to access my account (the thief changed the password), I have no idea what's happening to my money, or if/when I'll get it back. I need that money; it's basically my life's savings. If you've never tried to contact Robinhood before you may think I'm exaggerating how difficult it is, but there are actually several lawsuits from people in similar situations. Apparently they're famous for just not responding to theft cases. It seems I may need to sue them to get my money back. And even if I get it back, I feel like I'm owed something for this amount of stress, not to mention however much money I'm losing by not being able to buy and sell as I had planned. How do I find an attorney who can help me with this?
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The is absolutely lawyer territory. I bet they respond then.
You should speak to an attorney ASAP. Some will say the cost will outpace the return, but remember that this is reddit and they may not know of what they speak, and $40,000 is not a small amount of money. An attorney will give you an idea of the costs and how those costs might be paid for. Also begin the paper trail. Call the police. Get a report on file. This is likely way outside anything the police can do, but you want as much documentation as possible at this point. Good luck.
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Robinhood trading app has given my account to someone else, locked me out, and won't respond to contact. Now what? This is in Pennsylvania, USA. I had just over $40K in the Robinhood trading app. One day I woke up to a list of e-mail notifications saying things along the lines of "thanks for changing your personal information, thanks for opening a debit account, thanks for charging $5,000, thanks for selling X stocks" from Robinhood. Obviously someone had broken into my account, changed the personal information, and was stealing my money. My account was set up for 2-factor authentication, so it should have been impossible for someone to break in without me getting a text, but here we are. This should be a no-brainer for Robinhood to identify and resolve, right? Wrong. There's literally no way to contact Robinhood directly outside of sending them an e-mail. When I e-mail them, they respond with form letters saying "thanks for contacting us, we'll look into it and get back to you." It's been a week. In the meantime there's no way to access my account (the thief changed the password), I have no idea what's happening to my money, or if/when I'll get it back. I need that money; it's basically my life's savings. If you've never tried to contact Robinhood before you may think I'm exaggerating how difficult it is, but there are actually several lawsuits from people in similar situations. Apparently they're famous for just not responding to theft cases. It seems I may need to sue them to get my money back. And even if I get it back, I feel like I'm owed something for this amount of stress, not to mention however much money I'm losing by not being able to buy and sell as I had planned. How do I find an attorney who can help me with this?
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/r/personalfinance might be able to tell you what regulators to get involved.
I am a lawyer. I am not your lawyer. You should speak to a lawyer in your jurisdiction. Many people have given you good advice. And I rarely give this advice, but it may be worth contacting an attorney who specialized in class actions. You can usually find them because they have the biggest cases in the news. The reason this might be a good idea is that if this is their normal procedure. You are likely not a lone with this matter. Especially given their recent exposure in the news, Robin Hood likely has a large enough subscriber base that there will be many of you suffering the same issue. And that is what a class action suit is for. People with nearly identical fact patterns who suffer similar injury. The other advantage is typically Class Action Lawyers are known sharks. This will often inspire smart companies to pay attention to your concerns. Class actions suits have lots of negative impacts on businesses who are subject of these claims. So here is the negative, it is very lucrative for the attorney. But for the plaintiffs (you) it can sometimes not be. This is the risk you take. However, when you are the first and the named defendant you typically get a slightly better result. Not my favorite area of the law but it's a way to get the attention of bigger companies that hide behind costumer service walls. Good luck.
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Robinhood trading app has given my account to someone else, locked me out, and won't respond to contact. Now what? This is in Pennsylvania, USA. I had just over $40K in the Robinhood trading app. One day I woke up to a list of e-mail notifications saying things along the lines of "thanks for changing your personal information, thanks for opening a debit account, thanks for charging $5,000, thanks for selling X stocks" from Robinhood. Obviously someone had broken into my account, changed the personal information, and was stealing my money. My account was set up for 2-factor authentication, so it should have been impossible for someone to break in without me getting a text, but here we are. This should be a no-brainer for Robinhood to identify and resolve, right? Wrong. There's literally no way to contact Robinhood directly outside of sending them an e-mail. When I e-mail them, they respond with form letters saying "thanks for contacting us, we'll look into it and get back to you." It's been a week. In the meantime there's no way to access my account (the thief changed the password), I have no idea what's happening to my money, or if/when I'll get it back. I need that money; it's basically my life's savings. If you've never tried to contact Robinhood before you may think I'm exaggerating how difficult it is, but there are actually several lawsuits from people in similar situations. Apparently they're famous for just not responding to theft cases. It seems I may need to sue them to get my money back. And even if I get it back, I feel like I'm owed something for this amount of stress, not to mention however much money I'm losing by not being able to buy and sell as I had planned. How do I find an attorney who can help me with this?
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Lawsuits should be your last option against a large corporation as the cost of litigation would exceed your loses. Keep up with the emails and document all communications sent and received. File a complaint with FINRA https://www.finra.org/investors/have-problem/file-complaint including attaching all of the correspondence so far. You also need to adjust your expectations...your recovery out of this is going to be limited to the amount in the account pre-takeover only. You won't get money for stress or for lost opportunity. And that isn't a guarantee. RH is playing hardball with everyone whose account has been compromised.
I am a lawyer. I am not your lawyer. You should speak to a lawyer in your jurisdiction. Many people have given you good advice. And I rarely give this advice, but it may be worth contacting an attorney who specialized in class actions. You can usually find them because they have the biggest cases in the news. The reason this might be a good idea is that if this is their normal procedure. You are likely not a lone with this matter. Especially given their recent exposure in the news, Robin Hood likely has a large enough subscriber base that there will be many of you suffering the same issue. And that is what a class action suit is for. People with nearly identical fact patterns who suffer similar injury. The other advantage is typically Class Action Lawyers are known sharks. This will often inspire smart companies to pay attention to your concerns. Class actions suits have lots of negative impacts on businesses who are subject of these claims. So here is the negative, it is very lucrative for the attorney. But for the plaintiffs (you) it can sometimes not be. This is the risk you take. However, when you are the first and the named defendant you typically get a slightly better result. Not my favorite area of the law but it's a way to get the attention of bigger companies that hide behind costumer service walls. Good luck.
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Robinhood trading app has given my account to someone else, locked me out, and won't respond to contact. Now what? This is in Pennsylvania, USA. I had just over $40K in the Robinhood trading app. One day I woke up to a list of e-mail notifications saying things along the lines of "thanks for changing your personal information, thanks for opening a debit account, thanks for charging $5,000, thanks for selling X stocks" from Robinhood. Obviously someone had broken into my account, changed the personal information, and was stealing my money. My account was set up for 2-factor authentication, so it should have been impossible for someone to break in without me getting a text, but here we are. This should be a no-brainer for Robinhood to identify and resolve, right? Wrong. There's literally no way to contact Robinhood directly outside of sending them an e-mail. When I e-mail them, they respond with form letters saying "thanks for contacting us, we'll look into it and get back to you." It's been a week. In the meantime there's no way to access my account (the thief changed the password), I have no idea what's happening to my money, or if/when I'll get it back. I need that money; it's basically my life's savings. If you've never tried to contact Robinhood before you may think I'm exaggerating how difficult it is, but there are actually several lawsuits from people in similar situations. Apparently they're famous for just not responding to theft cases. It seems I may need to sue them to get my money back. And even if I get it back, I feel like I'm owed something for this amount of stress, not to mention however much money I'm losing by not being able to buy and sell as I had planned. How do I find an attorney who can help me with this?
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As others have suggested, sounds like you might have to lawyer up and send them a notice to expedite their response. I also wanted to mention that two-factor authentication is a good security measure, but it is not infallible and you could be the victim of sim card swapping or the attacker could have removed TFA from your account all together. Whoever has access to your account might appear to Robinhood as a legitimate user. You might have to go the lawyer route because Robinhood may not have the infrastructure to be able tell you are the original account owner if someone was so easily able to gain access and change all the information. I’m very sorry this happened to you. Hope you get it worked out soon.
I am a lawyer. I am not your lawyer. You should speak to a lawyer in your jurisdiction. Many people have given you good advice. And I rarely give this advice, but it may be worth contacting an attorney who specialized in class actions. You can usually find them because they have the biggest cases in the news. The reason this might be a good idea is that if this is their normal procedure. You are likely not a lone with this matter. Especially given their recent exposure in the news, Robin Hood likely has a large enough subscriber base that there will be many of you suffering the same issue. And that is what a class action suit is for. People with nearly identical fact patterns who suffer similar injury. The other advantage is typically Class Action Lawyers are known sharks. This will often inspire smart companies to pay attention to your concerns. Class actions suits have lots of negative impacts on businesses who are subject of these claims. So here is the negative, it is very lucrative for the attorney. But for the plaintiffs (you) it can sometimes not be. This is the risk you take. However, when you are the first and the named defendant you typically get a slightly better result. Not my favorite area of the law but it's a way to get the attention of bigger companies that hide behind costumer service walls. Good luck.
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Robinhood trading app has given my account to someone else, locked me out, and won't respond to contact. Now what? This is in Pennsylvania, USA. I had just over $40K in the Robinhood trading app. One day I woke up to a list of e-mail notifications saying things along the lines of "thanks for changing your personal information, thanks for opening a debit account, thanks for charging $5,000, thanks for selling X stocks" from Robinhood. Obviously someone had broken into my account, changed the personal information, and was stealing my money. My account was set up for 2-factor authentication, so it should have been impossible for someone to break in without me getting a text, but here we are. This should be a no-brainer for Robinhood to identify and resolve, right? Wrong. There's literally no way to contact Robinhood directly outside of sending them an e-mail. When I e-mail them, they respond with form letters saying "thanks for contacting us, we'll look into it and get back to you." It's been a week. In the meantime there's no way to access my account (the thief changed the password), I have no idea what's happening to my money, or if/when I'll get it back. I need that money; it's basically my life's savings. If you've never tried to contact Robinhood before you may think I'm exaggerating how difficult it is, but there are actually several lawsuits from people in similar situations. Apparently they're famous for just not responding to theft cases. It seems I may need to sue them to get my money back. And even if I get it back, I feel like I'm owed something for this amount of stress, not to mention however much money I'm losing by not being able to buy and sell as I had planned. How do I find an attorney who can help me with this?
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The is absolutely lawyer territory. I bet they respond then.
I am a lawyer. I am not your lawyer. You should speak to a lawyer in your jurisdiction. Many people have given you good advice. And I rarely give this advice, but it may be worth contacting an attorney who specialized in class actions. You can usually find them because they have the biggest cases in the news. The reason this might be a good idea is that if this is their normal procedure. You are likely not a lone with this matter. Especially given their recent exposure in the news, Robin Hood likely has a large enough subscriber base that there will be many of you suffering the same issue. And that is what a class action suit is for. People with nearly identical fact patterns who suffer similar injury. The other advantage is typically Class Action Lawyers are known sharks. This will often inspire smart companies to pay attention to your concerns. Class actions suits have lots of negative impacts on businesses who are subject of these claims. So here is the negative, it is very lucrative for the attorney. But for the plaintiffs (you) it can sometimes not be. This is the risk you take. However, when you are the first and the named defendant you typically get a slightly better result. Not my favorite area of the law but it's a way to get the attention of bigger companies that hide behind costumer service walls. Good luck.
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Robinhood trading app has given my account to someone else, locked me out, and won't respond to contact. Now what? This is in Pennsylvania, USA. I had just over $40K in the Robinhood trading app. One day I woke up to a list of e-mail notifications saying things along the lines of "thanks for changing your personal information, thanks for opening a debit account, thanks for charging $5,000, thanks for selling X stocks" from Robinhood. Obviously someone had broken into my account, changed the personal information, and was stealing my money. My account was set up for 2-factor authentication, so it should have been impossible for someone to break in without me getting a text, but here we are. This should be a no-brainer for Robinhood to identify and resolve, right? Wrong. There's literally no way to contact Robinhood directly outside of sending them an e-mail. When I e-mail them, they respond with form letters saying "thanks for contacting us, we'll look into it and get back to you." It's been a week. In the meantime there's no way to access my account (the thief changed the password), I have no idea what's happening to my money, or if/when I'll get it back. I need that money; it's basically my life's savings. If you've never tried to contact Robinhood before you may think I'm exaggerating how difficult it is, but there are actually several lawsuits from people in similar situations. Apparently they're famous for just not responding to theft cases. It seems I may need to sue them to get my money back. And even if I get it back, I feel like I'm owed something for this amount of stress, not to mention however much money I'm losing by not being able to buy and sell as I had planned. How do I find an attorney who can help me with this?
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The banking side of RH should be regulated by the CFPB. I'd start with a complaint there: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/ Generate another with the SEC: https://www.sec.gov/oiea/Complaint.html I think CFPB is going to be your quickest resolution.
/r/personalfinance might be able to tell you what regulators to get involved.
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