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ููู ูุนู
ูุ
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how does it work?
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ููู
ู
ู ุฐูู ุงูุฅูุฑุงุฏ ูุณูู
ูู ุชูุงููู ุงูุชุดุบูู ุชููุ
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and how much of that revenue contributes to that operating costs?
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ุญุณููุง ูุฅู ุฃูุดุทุฉ ุฅุฏุฑุงุฑ ุงูุฏุฎู ูู ุงูุฃุนู
ุงู ุงูุฒุฑุงุนูุฉ.
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so the income generating activities in the agribusiness.
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ุชููู ุงูู
ุฏุงุฑุณ ูุนูููุง ู
ุณุชุฏุงู
ุฉ ุชู
ุงู
ูุง ุฏูููุง.
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actually the schools are entirely sustainable without them.
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ูุฐูู ูุฅููุง ุชุชุนูู ุจุฒูุงุฏุฉ ุงูู
ุจูุบ ุงูุฅุฌู
ุงูู ูุฏู ุงูู
ุฏุฑุณุฉ ุชุฏุฑูุฌููุง.
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so they are about incrementally increasing the total amount that the school has.
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ูุฐูู ูู
ูููุง ุชุญุณูู ุงููุตูู ูุงูุฌูุฏุฉ ูู ุงูููุช ููุณู.
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so we can improve access and quality at the same time.
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ููู ูุชู
ุชุดุบูู ุงูู
ุฏุฑุณุฉ ุจุงุณุชุฏุงู
ุฉ ุฏูููุง.
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but the school is run sustainably without them.
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ูู ูุฐู ุงูุขููุฉุ ุณุฃูุฐุจ ุฅู ููุช ุฅู ุชูู ูุงูุช ุฌุฒุกูุง ูุจูุฑูุง ู
ู ุฏุฎู ุงูู
ุฏุฑุณุฉ.
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at the moment, I will be lying to say that those were a large part of the income to the school.
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ููุฏ ุงุณุชุซู
ุฑูุง ููุท ูู ููุน ู
ุนูู ู
ู ุงููุฑูู.
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we have just invested in a specific kind of team.
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ููุนู
ู ูุชุทููุฑ ุชูู ุงูุฃุนู
ุงู ุนูู ุญุฏ ุณูุงุก ู
ุน ุงูู
ุฏุงุฑุณ ูุจุนุถูุง ุจุนูุฏูุง ุนู ุงูู
ุฏุงุฑุณ ูุนูููุง.
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to work to develop those businesses both with schools and actually some away from schools.
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ูุฐูู ูุฅูู ูู
ูู ุฃู ูููู ูุฏููุง ุชูุงุฑ ุงูุฅูุฑุงุฏ ุงูุซุงูู ูุฐุง ุงูุฐู ูุฏุนู
ููุงู ู
ู ุงููุฑูู ูู ุชุนุฒูุฒ ุงูู
ุณุงูุงุฉ ูู ุงูู
ุฏุงุฑุณ ุงูุฅูุฑูููุฉ ุฃูุบูุฏุง
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so we can have this second-revenue stream supporting both the team in PEAS Uganda
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ููู ูู ู
ู ุงูู
ุฏุงุฑุณ .
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and in each of the inivudal schools.
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ุงูุฃู
ุซูุฉ ูู ุงููุซูุฑ ู
ู ุญููู ุฒุฑุงุนุชูุง ุจุงูุฐุฑุฉ ูุงููุงุตูููุง.
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the examples are a lot of its planting fields with maize and beans.
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ุจุญูุซ ูู
ูููุง ุฎูุถ ุชูููุฉ ุงูุบุฏุงุก.
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so that we can lower the cost of lunch.
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ููุฏููุง ุฃูุถูุง ุจุนุถ ูุญุฏุงุช ุงูุฏูุงุฌู ูุฐูู ูุถูุช ุฃููุงุชูุง ูุซูุฑุฉ ุฌุฏูุง ูู ุนุฏ ุงูุจูุถ ูุงูุฃุดูุงุก.
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and we have also got some poultry units so I spent so many times counting eggs and things.
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ูุฃูุง ุฃุชุทูุน ุฅูู ุฃุดูุงุก ู
ุซู ุชุฑุจูุฉ ุงูุฃุณู
ุงู ูุจุนุฏ ุฐูู ุงููุถุน ูู ุงูุตูุจุงุช ุงูุฒุฑุงุนูุฉ.
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and I am looking at things like fish farming and then putting in greenhouses.
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ุจุญูุซ ูู
ูููุง ุฅูุชุงุฌ ุฎุถุฑูุงุช ุนุงููุฉ ุงูุฌูุฏุฉ ูู
ูู ุจูุนูุง ูู ูู
ุจุงูุง.
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so that we can produce high-quality vegetables that can be sold in Kampala.
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ุฅูู ุงูุทุจูุฉ ุงููุณุทู ุงูู
ุชูุงู
ูุฉ ููุงูุ ูุฐูู ููุงู ู
ุฌู
ูุนุฉ ู
ู ุงูุฃุดูุงุก ุงูู
ุฎุชููุฉ.
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to the growing middle class there, so there is a range of different things.
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ุงูุณุคุงู ุงูุฃุฎูุฑุ ูุนู
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last question, yeah
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ููู ููุนู ุงููุชู ุงูุตุบูุฑ
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how the little boy is doing
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ุฅูู ูุตู ูู
ุฏุฑุณุฉ ุซุงูููุฉ ูุญุตู ุนูู ูุธููุฉ ูู ุณูุจุฑ ู
ุงุฑูุช.
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he got for a secondary school and he got a job in a supermarket.
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ูุฅุฐุง ููุช ุฃู
ูููุง ุชู
ุงู
ูุงุ ููููู ุณูุฆูุง ุฌุฏูุง ู
ูู.
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and if I am completely honest, it is very naughty of me.
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ููู ุชูู ุงูุตูุฑุฉ ููุณุช ูุนูููุง ุงูุตุจู ุงูุฐู ุงูุชููุชู.
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but that photo is not actually the boy that I met.
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ูุงูุณุจุจ ูู ูุฃูู ูุฃุณุจุงุจ ุญู
ุงูุฉ ุงูุทูู.
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and the reason is because for child protection reasons.
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ูุญู ูุชุฌูุจ ุญููุง ููุท ูุถุน ุงูู
ุซู ููุนูุง ู
ุง ุนูู ุทูู.
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we just really avoid sort of putting the same on on a child.
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ููู ูุนู
ุฅูู ุชูุงุตู ู
ุนู ุนุจุฑ ุงูููุณ ุจูู ู
ูุฐ ุซูุงุซุฉ ุฃุณุงุจูุน.
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but yes he got in touch with me via Facebook three weeks ago.
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ููุงู ุฃูุช ุงูุชุงูู ูู ูู
ุจุงูุงุ ุณูููู ุงูููุงุก ุฑุงุฆุนูุง.
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and said you are next in Kampla, it will be great to meet.
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ููู
ุฃุฑู ุฎูุงู ุจุถุน ุณููุงุช ูุนูููุง.
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and I have not seen him in a couple of years actually.
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ููููู ุณุฃูุญู ุจู ูุฃุฑู ููู ุญุงูู.
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but I will catch up with him and see how he is doing.
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ูููู ููุณ ู
ุญุงู
ููุง.
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but he is not a lawyer.
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ุฅูู ูุง ูุฏูุน ู
ูุงุจู ุฃุฎุทุงุก ูุจูุฑุฉ.
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he is not being paid big bugs.
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ูููู ุจุงูุชุฃููุฏ ูู ูุถุน ู
ุง ูุงู ูุฃู ูููู ุฎูุงูู.
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but he is certainly in a position that he would not have otherwise been.
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ูุจุงูู
ุนูู ุงูุงูุชุตุงุฏู ููุทุ ุงูู
ุนุฏู ุงูุฎุงุต ูุนุงุฆุฏ ุงูู
ุฏุฑุณุฉ ุงูุซุงูููุฉ.
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and just in economic sense, the private rate of return to secondary school.
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ูู ุนุงู
ูุชุงุฉ ูู ุงูู
ุฏุฑุณุฉ ุงูุซุงูููุฉุ ุฅููุง ุชุฌูู 20ูช ุฅุถุงููุฉ ูู ุฃูุบูุฏุง.
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each year a girl is in secondary school, she earns an extra 20% in Uganda.
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ูุจููุฉ ุงูุญูุงุฉ ูุฐูู ู
ุถุงุนูุฉ ุฏุฎูู ููุนูุง ู
ุง ูู ุฏูุฑุฉ ุชุนููู
ู
ู ุฃุฑุจุน ุณููุงุช.
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for the rest of life so kind of doubling your income every four year education cycle.
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ุงูุฐู ูููู ุญููุง ูุนุจุฉ ุชุชุบูุฑ ูุดุฎุต ู
ุง.
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which is really game changing for someone.
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ุนูุฏู
ุง ูุฃุฎุฐูู
ูู
ุง ุชุนูู
ูู ููู ุฎุท ุงูููุฑุ ูููู ูุฑููุง ูุจูุฑูุง.
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when you know it takes you above the poverty line, it is a big difference.
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ุฃุนุชูุฏ ุฃููู ุฃุฎุดู ุฃู ุฐูู ูู ุงูุณุคุงู ุงูุฃุฎูุฑุ ูุนู
.
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I think I am afraid that is the last question, yeah.
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ุดูุฑูุง ุฌุฒููุงู ููู
.
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thank you very much.
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ุญุณููุง ูุณุฑูู ุชููู ุงูุฃุณุฆูุฉ. ูุนู
ุ
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so I am happy to take questions. yes?
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ู
ุณุงุก ุงูุฎูุฑ. ุงุณู
ู ู
ุงููุง ุฌูุจุณูู. ุฃูุง ู
ู ุงูุจุงูุงู
ุง.
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good afternoon. my name is Makeya Gibson. I am from the Bahamas.
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ุชููุงููู.
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tenakewi.
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ุฃูุง ู
ูุชู
ุญููุง ูู
ุนุฑูุฉ ุฃุนูู.
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I am really interested to know I mean .
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ุงูุฃููุงุฑ ุงูุชู ุชุชุจููููุง ูุงูุงุณุชุฑุงุชูุฌูุงุช ูู ุงูุจุฑูุงู
ุฌ ูุงูุชู ุทูุฑุญุช.
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the ideas that you espouse and the strategies at the program and put forward.
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ุฅููุง ุจุฏุช ุงุณุชุฑุงุชูุฌูุงุช ู
ุชู
ูุฒุฉ ุญููุง ููุชุนููู
ุนู
ูู
ูุง.
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it seemed to be really outstanding strategies for education generally.
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ูุฐูู ูุฅูู ุฃุชุณุงุกู ุฅูู ุฃู ู
ุฏู ูุชู
ุชุจูููุง.
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so I am wondering to what extent it is being adopted.
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ู
ู ููุจู ูุฒุงุฑุฉ ุงูุชุนููู
ูู ูููุฒูููุฏุง ููู ุงูู
ุฏุงุฑุณ.
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by the ministry of education in New Zealand for all schools.
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ููู ูููู ููู
ุชุฃุซูุฑ ุฎุงุฑุฌ ุงูุฏูู
ูุบุฑุงููุฉ ุงูู
ุงูุฑูุฉ ูุฐููุ
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and are you having an impact outside of the maori demographic as well?
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ุดูุฑูุง ุฌุฒููุงู ูู. ูุฐุง ุณุคุงู ุจู
ูููู ุฏููุงุฑ ุญููุง.
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thank you very much. that is a million-dollar question really.
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ูุง ุฃุนุฑู ูุณููุฉ ููุจุฏุก ูู ูุฐุง ุงูุณุคุงู.
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I do not know a way to start on that question.
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ุณุฃุจุฏุฃ ุจุญูููุฉ ุฃูู ูุนู
ูุฒุงุฑุฉ ุงูุชุนููู
ุชู
ุถู ูุฏู
ูุง ูู ุฐูู.
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I will start with the fact that yes the ministry of education are taking it further.
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ุฅููุง ุชุชุฎุฐ ููุฌูุง ุฃูุซุฑ ุชู
ุงุณููุง.
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they are taking a more cohesive approach.
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ูุฏููุง ุญูุงูู 250 ู
ุฏุฑุณุฉ ุซุงูููุฉ ูู ูููุฒูููุฏุง
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we have about 250 secondary schools in New Zealand
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ููุญู ูุนู
ู ุญุงูููุง ูู ุญูุงูู 49 ู
ู ุชูู.
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and currently we are working in about 49 of those.
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ุงูุนุงู
ุงูู
ูุจูุ ูุฏู ุงููุฒุงุฑุฉ ุฎุทุฉ ูุฃุฎุฐูุง ุฅูู 100 ู
ุฏุฑุณุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู.
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next year, the ministry has a plan to take it into another 100 schools.
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ุณูููู ููุฌูุง ู
ูุณููุง ู
ุน ุจุนุถ ุงูุจุฑุงู
ุฌ ุงูุฃุฎุฑู ุฅูู ุฌุงูุจ .
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it will be a coordinated approach with some other programs alongside .
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ููู
ุง ูุฎุต ุงูุณุคุงู ูู
ุง ุชุนูู
ูู ูู ูู
ุณ ุงูู
ุฌู
ูุนุฉ ุงูุณูุงููุฉ ุงูุฃุฎุฑู.
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in term of the question you know is it touching the other demographic group.
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ูุฏููุง ุงููุซูุฑ ู
ู ุทูุงุจ ุฌุฒุฑ ุงูู
ุญูุท ุงููุงุฏุฆ ูู ู
ุฏุงุฑุณูุง.
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we have a lot of pacific island students in our schools.
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ูููุฏ ูุงุญุธูุง ุงูุงุฑุชูุงุน ููุณู ูู ุงูุฅูุฌุงุฒ.
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and we have noticed the same lift in the achievement.
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ููู ุงูุดูุก ุงูุขุฎุฑ ุงูู
ูู
ุญููุง ูุงู ุฃู.
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but the other thing that it is really important has been that.
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ุงูุฌู
ูุน ูุฌุญูุง ู
ุน ูุฐุง ุงูุจุฑูุงู
ุฌุ ู
ุน ูุฐู ุงูุงุณุชุฑุงุชูุฌูุงุช.
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everybody has succeeded with this program, with these strategies.
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ุจููู
ุง ูุจู ุฐูู ูุงูุช ูููุฒูููุฏุง ู
ูุตูุฉ ุฌุฏูุง.
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whereas before New Zealand was very much an egalitarian.
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ูุฐุง ู
ุง ุชุจูููุงู. ุชุจูููุง ูุธุงู
ุชุนููู
ู
ูุตููุง.
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that is what we espoused. we espoused in egalitarian education system.
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ููุณุชู
ุฑ ุทูุงุจ ุงูู
ุงูุฑู ูู ุงูุณููุท ุจุงูุฎูู ุจุดูู ู
ุชูุงุณุจ.
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and maori students continue to just proportionately fall behind.
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ูู
ุง ูุนู ุจุงุณููููุง ูู
ุง ูุนู ุงูุทูุงุจ ุงูู
ูุงุฌุฑูู ู
ุคุฎุฑูุง.
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as did the Pasifika as did recent immigrant students.
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ูุฐูู ุงูุฅุฌุงุจุฉ ุนูู ุณุคุงูููู
ุง ูู ูุนู
ููุนู
. ุดูุฑูุง ููู
.
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so the answer to your questions is yes and yes. thank you.
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ูุนู
ู
ู ูุถูู.
|
yes please.
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ุฃูุง ู
ู ุจูุฑู ูุฃุดุงุฑู ุงูู
ุดููุฉ.
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I come from Peru and I share the problem.
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ุฏุนุง ุทุจูุจ ููุณู ุงุจูุชู.
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my daughter was called by a psychologist.
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ูุฃูู ูุงู ูุฌุจ ุนูุงุฌ ุญููุฏุชู.
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because my granddaughter has to be treated.
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ูุฃููู
ูู
ูููู
ูุง ูู
ุงุฐุง ูุงูุช ุงูุฃุณุฑุฉ ูุจูุฑุฉ ุฌุฏูุง.
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because they did not understand why the family was so large.
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ูุฃู ููุงู ุฃุฌุฏุงุฏูุง ูุฎุงูุงุช ุขุจุงุก ุฃู ุฃู
ูุงุช ูุขุจุงุก ุฃุฌุฏุงุฏ.
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because there are grandparents, grandaunts, great grandparents.
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ูุฌุฏุงุช ุฌุฏุงุช.
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and great great grandmothers.
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ููู ุชุนุฑู ุงูุฌู
ูุน ูุนู
ุฑูุง ุฎู
ุณ.
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and she knows everybody and she is five.
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ุจุชุนุฑูู ุงูุฃุณุฑุฉุ ููู ูุตูุน ุฐููุ
|
by the definition of family, how makes that?
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ูุฃููุณ ุฐูู ู
ู ุฌุงูุจ ุงูู
ุนูู
ููุ
|
and it not that a on the part of teachers?
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ูุงูุฐู ูุฏุฑุจ ุงูู
ุนูู
ูู.
|
and who trains the teachers.
|
ููู ุชุฎุทุทูู ูุชุบููุฑ ุฐููุ
|
how do you plan to change that?
|
ูุญู .
|
we are the .
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ูุฐูู ุจุฏุก ุงูุนู
ู ู
ุน ู
ุคุณุณุชู ุชุฏุฑูุจ ู
ุนูู
ูู ุขุฎุฑุชูู ูู ูููุฒูููุฏุง.
|
so beginning to work with two other teacher training institutions in New Zealand.
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ูุจุงูุชุฃููุฏ ุฏูุฑู ูู ู
ุญุงููุฉ ุฏู
ุฌ ูุฐู ุงูุชูุงูู
ุงุช.
|
and certainly my role is to try and integrate these understandings.
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ุถู
ู ุจุฑูุงู
ุฌ ุชุฏุฑูุจ ุงูู
ูุงุญุธูู.
|
within the perceivers training program.
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ููู ูุชุนูู ุนููู ุฃู ุฃููู ุฃูุถูุง ุฅู ู
ุนุธู
ู
ุนูู
ููุง ูููููู ูู ู
ุฏุงุฑุณูุง.
|
but I have to say also that most of our teachers are in our schools.
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ูููุฐุง ุงูุณุจุจ ุจุฏุฃูุง ููุงู.
|
and so that is why we started there.
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ูุฃุธู ุงูุขู ุฃู ูุฏููุง ุจุนุถ ุงูุฅุฌุงุจุงุช ุงูุชู ุชุนู
ู.
|
and I guess now that we have got some answers that work.
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ูุญู ูุณุชุนุฏ ุงูุขู ูุฃุฎุฐู ุฅูู ุชุฏุฑูุจ ุงูู
ุนูู
ูู ุงูู
ูุงุญุธูู.
|
we now prepare to take it into the perceiver teacher training.
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ูุฐูู ููุทุฉ ู
ูู
ุฉ ุญููุง.
|
so a really important point.
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ููุทุฉ ุชุชูุงู
ู ุชู
ุงู
ูุง ุนุจุฑ ูู ุงูุฃู
ูุฑ.
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a point that absolutely integrated across all of the things.
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ุฃุนุชูุฏ ูู ุงูู
ุงุถู ู
ุง ูุนููุงู ูู ูููุฒูููุฏุง ุนูู ุฃู ุญุงู.
|
I think in the past what we have done in New Zealand anyway.
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ูู ุบุงูุจูุง ูุญู ููุฑุฉ ุฌูุฏุฉ ูุฃุนุชูุฏ ุฃููู
ุณุชุนุฑููู ุนูููุฉ ุฃููุง ูุณุชููู ุงูู
ุชุทูุจุงุช.
|
is often we a good idea and think that will you know we-tick-the-box mentality.
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ููุฐู ููุณุช ุนูููุฉ ุงุณุชููุงุก ู
ุชุทูุจุงุช.
|
and this is not a tick-the-box mentality.
|
ูุนู
. ุดูุฑูุง ูู.
|
yes. thank you.
|
ู
ุณุงุก ุงูุฎูุฑ ุฏ. ุจูุฑูู
ุงู.
|
good afternoon Dr. Berryman.
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ูุฏ ุฃููู ูุถููููุง ูู
ุนุฑูุฉ ุจูุงูุงุชูู
ุนูุฏู
ุง ุชุชูููู ุงูุฑุฏูุฏ ู
ู ุงูู
ุนูู
ูู.
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I would be curious to know in your data when you are getting responses from teachers.
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ูู ูุงูุช ูุฏููู
ุฃู ุจูุงูุงุช ุจุดุฃู ุงูุฑุฏูุฏ ู
ู ุฌุฒูุฑุฉ ุงูู
ุงูุฑู ุจุงูู
ุญูุท ุงููุงุฏุฆ ู
ุซูุงู.
|
did you have any data on responses from like Maori pacific island.
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ุฃู ุงูู
ุนูู
ูู ูู ุงูุจุงูููุง ุฃู ุงูู
ุนูู
ูู ุบูุฑ ุงูู
ุงูุฑููู.
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or teachers in Pakeha or non-maori teachers.
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ูู
ุชุงุจุนุฉ ูู ุจุฑุงู
ุฌ ุงูุชุฏุฑูุจ ู
ุน ุงูู
ุนูู
ูู.
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and a followup in the training programs with the teachers.
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ูู ูุงุญุธุชู
ุงูููุงุญุงุช ุงูู
ุฎุชููุฉ ุงูุชู ูุงูุช ููู
ุนูู
ูู ุงูู
ุฎุชูููู ุฅุฒุงุก ุงูุชุฏุฑูุจ.
|
did you notice different struggles that different teachers had to the training.
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ูุงูุชููู ู
ุน ุงูุชุฏุฑูุจ.
|
and adapting to the training.
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ุตุญูุญุ ุดูุฑูุง ูู. ูุนู
ุฅููุง ุชุญุฏุซูุง ู
ุน ู
ุฌู
ูุนุฉ ูุงุณุนุฉ ู
ู ุงูู
ุนูู
ูู.
|
right, thank you. Yes we did speak to a wide range of teachers.
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