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ุงูู
ุงูุฑูููุ ูุบูุฑ ุงูู
ุงูุฑูููุ ูุงูู
ุนูู
ูู ุงูุฐูู ูุงุฌุฑูุง ู
ุคุฎุฑูุง ุฅูู ุงูุจูุงุฏ.
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maori, non-maori, teachers who had recently immigrated to the country.
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ู
ู ุฌู
ูุน ุงูุฏูู ูู ุฌู
ูุน ุฃูุญุงุก ุงูุนุงูู
.
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from all countries all over the world.
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ูุงูุช ุงูู
ุญุงุฏุซุงุช ุงูุชู ุฃุฌุฑููุงูุง ู
ุนูู
ู
ุชุดุงุจูุฉ ุฌุฏูุง.
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the conversations that we had with them were very similar.
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ูุฃุนุชูุฏ ุฃู ุฃุญุฏ ุงูุฃุดูุงุก ุงูุชู ุชุนูู
ุชูุง ูุงู ููุท ูุฃูู ู
ุงูุฑู.
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and I think one of the things that I learned was just because you are maori.
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ูุฐุง ูุง ูุนูู ุงูููู ุฅูู ุณูู ุชููู ุทุจูุนููุง ู
ุนูู
ูุง ุฃูุถู ูุทูุงุจ ุงูู
ุงูุฑู.
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it does not mean to say that you are naturally going to be a better teacher of maori students.
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ุฅูู ุชุฌูุจ ู
ุนูุง ุชูู ุงูู
ุนุชูุฏุงุช ุงููุงูุตุฉ ููุณูุง ุบุงูุจูุง.
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you bring with it those same deficit beliefs often.
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ุงูุชู ุชุฏูู
ู
ุน ุฏูุงู
ุฉ ูุทูุงุจ ุงูู
ุงูุฑู.
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that perpetuate with spiral for maori students.
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ูุฐูู ูู
ููู
ู
ุง ุฅุฐุง ููุช ู
ู ุงูู
ุงูุฑู ุฃู ู
ุง ุฅุฐุง ููุช ู
ู ุบูุฑ ุงูู
ุงูุฑู.
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so it did not matter whether you are maori or whether you are non-maori.
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ุณูุงุก ููุช ู
ูุงุฌุฑูุง ุญุฏูุซูุง ุฃู ููุช ูุฏ ููุฏุช ูู ูููุฒูููุฏุง.
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whether you are a recent immigrant or who you had been born in New Zealand.
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ูุงูุช ูุง ุชุฒุงู ููุงู ูุฑุตุฉ ููุญููู ูุถูุงู ุนู ุงูู
ุดููุงุช.
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there was still the opportunity for solutions as well as problems.
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ุฃุนุชูุฏ ุฃู ุงูุณุคุงู ุงูุซุงูู ูุงู
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the second question I think was
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ู
ุง ูุฌุฏูุงู ู
ู ุญูุซ ุงูุชุทููุฑ ุงูู
ููู.
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what we have found in terms of the professional development.
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ูุชุนูู ุนููู ุฃู ุฃููู ุฅู ุงูุชุทููุฑ ุงูู
ููู ููู
ุนูู
ูู ูุชุจุน.
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I have to say that the professional development for the teachers follows.
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ู
ุง ุฃุฎุจุฑูุง ุงูุทูุงุจ ุจู
ุง ูุนู
ู ุจุงููุณุจุฉ ููู
.
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what students told us what work for them.
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ููุฐูู ูุฅููุง ูุชุจุน ุงูู
ุจุงุฏุฆ ููุณูุง.
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and so we follow that same principles.
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ุฅูู ููุฌ ู
ุชูุงู
ู ุฌุฏูุง.
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it is a very integrated approach.
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ุฅูู ููุณ ุฐูู ุงูุทุงุฆุฑุ ูุฐูู ุงูุทุงุฆุฑุ ูุฐูู ุงูุทุงุฆุฑ.
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it is not that bird, that bird, and that bird.
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ูุณุฃุชุฑู ุงูุทุงุฆุฑ ุฎุงุฑุฌูุง.
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and I will leave bird out.
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ูู ูุนู
ู ุฐูู.
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that will not work.
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ุฅูู ูู ุฐูู ู
ุนูุง ุจุทุฑููุฉ ุดุงู
ูุฉ ูู
ุชูุงู
ูุฉ ุฌุฏูุง.
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it is all of it together in a very holistic and integrated way.
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ููุฐูู ูุฅู ุงูุชุทููุฑ ุงูู
ููู ุงูุฐู ูุชุจุนู.
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and so the professional development that we follow.
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ูุณุชุฎุฏู
ุฃุฏูุฉ ูุซูุฑุฉ ุฌุฏูุง ููุชุงุฆุฌ ุงูุทูุงุจ.
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uses very much evidence of student outcomes .
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ุงูู
ุนุฐุฑุฉ ุนูู ุงูุณู
ุงุญ ููู
ุนูู
ูู ุจุงูุชูููุฑ ูู ุงูุชุฃุซูุฑุ ูุงููููุฐ.
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sorry to allow the teachers to reflect on the impact, the influence.
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ุงูุฐู ูููู ููุชุฏุฑูุณ ุนูู ูุฐู ุงูู
ุฌู
ูุนุงุช ู
ู ุงูุทูุงุจ.
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that the teaching is having on those groups of students.
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ูุฐูู ูุฅูู ู
ุณุชู
ุฑุ ูู
ุชูุฑุฑุ ูู
ุณุชูุฏ ุฅูู ุฏููู.
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so it is ongoing, it iterative, it is evidenced based.
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ูู
ุง ูุชู
ุงูุฅุฎุจุงุฑ ุจู ุจูุงุณุทุฉ ุงูุฏููู ุงูุฐู ููุดุฆู.
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and it also is informed by the evidence that it generates.
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ุฃุฌู.
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yeah.
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ุดูุฑูุง ูู ุฃูุง ุฌููุณ.
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thank you I am Joyce.
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ุฃุฑุฏุช ุฃู ุฃุณุฃู ู
ุง ูู ุฏูุฑ ุงููุงูุฏูู ูุงูู
ุฌุชู
ุน.
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I wanted to ask what is the role of parents and the community.
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ูุฃู ุงููุซูุฑ ู
ู ูุฐู ุงูุฃููุงุฑ ูุง ุชุชุฃุซุฑ ููุท ุจุงูู
ุนูู
ูู.
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because a lot of these ideas are not only impacted by the teachers.
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ุงูุฑุณุงุฆู ุงูุชู ูุณู
ุนูุง ุงูุฃุทูุงู ู
ู ุงูู
ูุฒู ุชุตูุน ูุฑููุง ูุจูุฑูุง ุฌุฏูุง.
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the messages that children hear from home makes a very big difference.
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ุจุดุฃู ููููุฉ ุงุณุชู
ุฑุงุฑูู
ูู ุฑุคูุฉ ุงูุนุงูู
.
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on how they continue to see the world.
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ูุฃููู
ูุฏ ูุณู
ุนูู ุงููุตุฉ ุจุดูู ู
ุฎุชูู ุจุงูุฎุงุฑุฌ.
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because they may hear the story differently outside.
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ููู ู
ุง ูููุฐู ุงูุขุฎุฑูู ูุชูุฑุฑ ูู ุงูู
ูุฒูุ ุฅููู
ูู
ูููู ุฅูู ุงุนุชูุงุฏ ุฐูู ููุชุฑุฉ ุทูููุฉ.
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but what others are enforcing is repeated at home, they will tend to believe that for a long time.
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ูุฑุจู
ุง ูู
ูู ููู
ุฑุก ุชูุณูุฑ ุงูุชุบููุฑ ุฃุณุฑุน ุฅุฐุง ุชู
ุฅุดุฑุงู ุงููุงูุฏูู ูุงูู
ุฌุชู
ุน.
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and maybe one can facilitate change faster if parents and the community is involved.
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ุดูุฑูุง ูู.
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thank you.
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ุดูุฑูุง ูู ุฌููุณุ ุฃูุง ุฃุญุจ ุณุคุงูู.
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thank you Joyce, I love your question.
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ุฃุนุชูุฏ ุฃู ุงูุดูุก ุงูู
ูู
ุญููุง ูู ุฃููู ูุงูุฏุฉ. ุฃูุง ุฌุฏุฉ.
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I think the thing that is really important is that I am a parent. I am grandparent.
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ุฅููุง ุฌู
ูุนูุง ุขุจุงุก ูุฃู
ูุงุช ููุฑูุฏ ูุฃุทูุงููุง ูุฃุญูุงุฏูุง ุงูุฃูุถู ุฌุฏูุง.
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we are all parents and we want for our children and for our grandchildren the very best.
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ูุฃุนุชูุฏ ุฃู ุฃุญุฏ ุงูู
ูุงูู ุงูุชู ุงุนุชุงุฏุช ุฅุซุงุฑุฉ ุงูุชู
ุงู
ู ุฏุงุฆู
ูุง.
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and I guess one of the situations that always used to interest me.
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ูู ูู
ุงุฐุง ูุธูุฑ ุงูุขุจุงุก ุบูุฑ ู
ุนูู ุนููู
ุ ูุบูุฑ ู
ุฏุนููู ุฌูุฏูุง ูู ูููุฒูููุฏุง ุนูู ุฃู ุญุงู.
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is why do parents turn up unannounced, uninvited well in New Zealand anyway.
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ุนูุฏู
ุง ูููู ุฃุทูุงููู
ููุนุจูู ุงูุฑูุงุถูุฉ.
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when their children are playing sports.
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ูู
ุงุฐุง ูุธูุฑูู ุบูุฑ ู
ุฏุนููู ุบูุฑ ู
ุนูู ุนููู
.
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why do they turn up uninvited unannounced.
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ุนูุฏู
ุง ูุดุงุฑู ุฃุทูุงููู
ูู ุงูุฃูุดุทุฉ ุงูุซูุงููุฉ.
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when their children are engaged in cultural activities.
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ูู
ุงุฐุง ูุง ูุธูุฑูู ูุนูููุง.
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why do they actually not turn up.
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ุนูุฏู
ุง ูููู ูุฏููู
ุฎุทุงุจ ูููู ุฃุฑูุฏ ุฃู ุฃุชุญุฏุซ ุนู ุณููู ุงุจูู.
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when they have a letter saying I want to talk about your son's behavior.
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ุฃุนูู ู
ุง ูุญุงูู ูุนูู ูู ูููุฒูููุฏุง
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I mean what we are trying to do in New Zealand
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ููุชุดุฑ ูุนูููุง ุฅูู ุงูู
ุฌุชู
ุน.
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is actually spread out to the community.
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ููู ุฃูุถูุง ูุฌุนู ุงูู
ุฌุชู
ุน ูุตู ุฅูู ุงูู
ุฏุฑุณุฉ.
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but also to have the community reaching into the school.
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ูุฃููู ุฃุนุชูุฏ ููุงูุฏุฉุ ูุฌุฏุฉ.
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because I think as a parent, as a grandparent.
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ุฃูุง ู
ุชุนุจุฉ ููููุงู ู
ู ุงูู
ุฏุงุฑุณ ุงูุชู ุชููู ูู ู
ุง ูุฌุจ ูุนูู ุญูุงู ุชุนููู
ุทููู.
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I am a little bit tired of schools telling me what to do about my child's education.
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ู
ุน ุฐูู ุฅุฐุง ุฃุฑุงุฏุช ุงูุงูุฎุฑุงุท ู
ุนู.
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however if they want to engage with me.
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ุจุญูุซ ูู
ูููู ุงูู
ุณุงูู
ุฉ ุจุทุฑููุฉ ุชูุฑูุฑ ุงูู
ุตูุฑ ูุดุฑูู ู
ุณุงูู.
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so that I can contribute in self determining way as an equal partner.
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ุฅุฐูุง ุฃุนุชูุฏ ุฃููุง ุณูู ูุตูุน ุงููุงุฑู ููุง.
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then I think we are going to make the difference here.
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ูู ูุฐู ุงูุขููุฉ ู
ุน ุงูู
ุฑุญูุฉ ุงูุฎุงู
ุณุฉ.
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at the moment with phase five.
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ูุณูููู ู
ู ุงูู
ุซูุฑ ููุงูุชู
ุงู
ุญููุง ุฃู ูุณู
ุน ู
ุง ูุฏู ุฏุงููุงู ูููููู ุนู ุฐูู.
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and it would be really interesting to hear what Daniel has to say about that.
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ููู ูู ุงูู
ุฑุญูุฉ ุงูุฎุงู
ุณุฉุ ูุญู ูุนูู
ุชู
ุงู
ูุง ู
ุง ุฅุฐุง ูุงู ูู
ูููุง ุฌุนู ุงูู
ุฏุงุฑุณ ุชุตู ุฅูู ุงูู
ูุงุฒู.
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but at phase five, we absolutely know if we can get the schools reaching out to the homes.
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ูุงูู
ูุงุฒู ุชุตู.
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and the homes reaching in.
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ูู
ูููุง ู
ุถุงุนูุฉ ุงูุชุฃุซูุฑ ุงูุฐู ูู
ูููุง ุตูุนู ูู ุงูุชุนููู
.
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we can double the effect that we can make in education.
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ูุจุฏุฃูุง ุฅุธูุงุฑ ุฐูู ูู ู
ุฌุงูุงุช ู
ุญู ุงูุฃู
ูุฉ.
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and we are beginning to show that in the areas of literacy.
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ูู ุจุนุถ ุงูู
ูุงุทู ูุจุนุถ ุงูู
ุฏุงุฑุณ ุงูุชู ูุนู
ู ุนูููุง.
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in some of the areas and some of the schools that we are working.
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ูุฐูู ุฃุนุชูุฏ ุฌููุณ ุฃู ู
ุง ุชุณุฃู ุนูู ูู ููุท ูู ุบุงูุฉ ุงูุฃูู
ูุฉ.
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so I think Joyce what you are asking is just absolutely critical.
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ูู ุชุชููุฌ ููุนู
ููุฉ ููุฐุง ูู ุงูู
ูุงู ุงูุฐู ูุณุฃู ููู ูุฐู ุงูุฃุณุฆูุฉ ุญููุง ุงูุขู.
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it is the icing on the cake and it is the place that we really asking those questions now.
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ูุนู
ุณูุฏู.
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yes sir.
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ู
ุฌุฑุฏ ุฃู ุฃุชุทุฑู ุฅูู ู
ุดููุฉ ู
ูู
ุฉ ุฌุฏูุง ููุงุฌููุง ูู ุงูุชุนููู
ูู ูู ู
ูุงู.
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just to touch on a very important problem that we are facing in education all over.
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ูุฐูู ุนุงุฏุฉู ู
ุง ูููู ูุงุชููุง ู
ู ุงูู
ุฏุฑุณุฉ ูุนูู ูุงุฑุซุฉ.
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and that is usually a phone from the school means disaster.
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ูุนู
.
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yes.
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ุงูุทูู ูุง ููุนู ุงูุฎุงุต ุจู ุฃู ุงูุฎุงุต ุจูุง.
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the kid is not doing his or her.
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ูุนู
.
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yes.
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ุงูุนู
ู ุจุดูู ุตุญูุญ.
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job properly.
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ูุนู
.
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yes.
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ุฅููุง ูุง ูุชุตู ุฃุจุฏูุง ุจุงููุงูุฏูู ููููู ุงูููู
ุงุจูู ุฃุฏู ุนู
ูุงู ูุงุฆููุง.
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we never call the parents to say today your kid did a super job.
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ูุฐูู ูุฅู ุดูุฆูุง ุฑุฆูุณููุง ุชุชุทุฑููู ุฅููู ุญููุง ูู ุฐูู.
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so a major thing that you really touch upon is that.
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ุฅููุง ุงูู
ุนูู
ูู ูุงูุฅุฏุงุฑููู ูุง ููุชุญ ุฃุจูุงุจูุง ูุงููุฉ ูููุงูุฏูู ููู
ุดุงุฑูุฉ.
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we teachers and administrators do not open the doors enough for parents to get involved.
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ุจู
ุฌุฑุฏ ุฃู ุชูุนููุง ุฐููุ ุณููุงุฌุฆูู
ุฑุฏ ุงููุนู.
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once you do, you will be surprised by the reaction.
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ูุนู
.
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yes.
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ุดูุฑูุง ูู.
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thank you.
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ูุนู
. ุฃูุง ุฃุชูู ู
ุนู ุชู
ุงู
ูุง.
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yes. I absolutely agree with you.
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. ุงุณู
ู ุณุงู
ุฏุงูู.
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. my name is Samdani.
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ุดูุฑูุง ุฌุฒููุงู ูู ููุฏ ูุฏู
ุช ุนุฑุถูุง ุฑุงุฆุนูุง.
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thank you very much you made a wonderful presentation.
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ุฃูุฏ ุฃู ุฃุนุฑู ุฃูู ู
ู ุญูุซ ุงูุชุนุงู
ู ู
ุน ุงูุทูุงุจ.
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I would like to know that in terms of dealing with the students.
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ููู ุชุชุนุงู
ููู ุญููุง ู
ุน ุชุนููู
ุงูุฒู
ูู.
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how do you really deal with the fellow education.
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ู
ู ุญูุซ ุฅุฏุงุฑุฉ ุงูุณููู ุงูู
ุฎู ููุทูุงุจ.
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in terms of managing the disrupting behavior of the students.
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ูุฐุง ุณุคุงู ุขุฎุฑ ุฑุงุฆุน.
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that is another great question.
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ุงูุฃุณุฆูุฉ ุงูุชู ุชุฃุชู ู
ููู
ุฃููุง ุงููุงุณ ููุง ุตุฏูู ุญููุง.
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the questions that are coming from you people really resonate.
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ู
ุน ุงูุฑุญูุฉ ุงูุชู ูุงูุช ูุฏููุง.
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with the journey that we have had.
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ูุฃุนุชูุฏ ุงูุฅุฌุงุจุฉ ุงููุตูุฑุฉ ูููุณ ููุชูููู ู
ู ููู
ุฉ ุณุคุงูู.
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and I think the short answer and it is not to devalue your question.
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ุงูุฅุฌุงุจุฉ ุงููุตูุฑุฉ ูู ุฃูู ุนูุฏู
ุง ููุถู ุงูู
ุนูู
ูู ุงูููุช ูู ุฅุฏุงุฑุฉ ุนูู
ุฃุตูู ุงูุชุนููู
.
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the short answer is that when teachers spend time managing the pedagogy.
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ูููู ุนูููู
ูุนูููุง ุฅุฏุงุฑุฉ ุงูุณููู ุฃูู ูุซูุฑูุง.
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they actually have to manage behavior a lot less.
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ูุฃูุชู
ุชูุธุฑูู ุฅูู ุดุฎุต ุนู
ู ูู
ุฏุฉ 10 ุณููุงุช ูู ุงูุณููู.
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and you are looking at somebody that for 10 years worked in behavior.
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ูุฐูู ูุถูุช 10 ุณููุงุช ูู
ุนูู
ุฉ ุฎุงุตุฉ.
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so I spent 10 years as a special educator.
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ุฃุณุงุนุฏ ุงูู
ุนูู
ูู ูู ุฅุฏุงุฑุฉ ุณููู ุงูุทูุงุจ.
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helping teachers to manage students behavior.
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ูุฃููู ุบุงูุจูุง ุฅู ุงูู
ุดููุฉ ููุณุช ุงูุทูุงุจ.
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and often saying that the problem was not the students.
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ุฅููุง ูุงูุช ูู ุงูุณูุงู ุงูุฐู ูุชู
ุชุนููู
ูู
ููู.
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it was in the context in which they are being taught.
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ูุฐูู ูุฅู ุงูุฅุฌุงุจุฉ ุงููุตูุฑุฉ ุนูู ุณุคุงูู ูู ุนูุฏู
ุง ูุณุงุนุฏ ุงูู
ุนูู
ูู.
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so the short answer to your question is when we help teachers.
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ุนูู
ุฃุตูู ุงูุชุนููู
ุจุดูู ุฃูุซุฑ ูุนุงููุฉ ูุฅู ุญูููุง ุชุฎุชูู ุงูู
ุดุงูู ุงูุณููููุฉ.
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to maange the pedagogy much more effectively then the behavioral problems disappear.
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ุดูุฑูุง ูู. ุดูุฑูุง ุฌุฒููุงู ูู.
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thank you. thank you very much.
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ุงูุขู ูุฏููุง ูุฑุตุฉ ูู ูุทุฑุญ ุณุคุงู ุนูู ุจูุจ.
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now we have a chance for you to ask question to Pape.
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ูุฅุนุทุงุฆู ุชุนูููุงุชู ุจุดุฃู ู
ุง ุณู
ุนุชู ููุท.
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and give him your comments on what you just heard.
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ูุง ุชูุฌุฏ ุฃุณุฆูุฉ.
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no questions.
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