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ู„ูŠุณ ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุนู„ู…ูŠู†ุŒ ู‚ู„ุช ุฃู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ูุฑุตุฉ ุฑุงุฆุนุฉ.
we do not have many teachers, I said that is a wonderful opportunity.
ุฅุฐุง ู„ู… ูŠูƒู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุนู„ู…ูŠู†ุŒ ุฑุงุฆุน.
If there are not many teachers, wonderful.
ุงู„ุขู† ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ุฃู† ู†ููƒุฑ ููŠ ุงู„ู†ู…ูˆุฐุฌ ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠ.
now we can think of a democratic model.
ุงู„ุฐูŠ ู„ู… ูŠูƒู† ุงู„ู…ุนู„ู…ูˆู† ู„ูŠุณู…ุญูˆุง ู„ู†ุง ุจุชุทุจูŠู‚ู‡.
which teachers would never have allowed us to implement.
ูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู†ุŒ ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุฏุนูˆู†ุง ู†ุญูˆู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃุฒู…ุฉ ุฅู„ู‰ ูุฑุตุฉ.
you know, so let us convert this crisis into opportunity.
ูˆุฏุนูˆู†ุง ูŠูƒูˆู† ู„ู†ุง ูˆุณุงุฆุท ู…ุชุนุฏุฏุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ู†ุทุงู‚ ูˆุงุณุนุŒ ู…ุญุชูˆู‰ ู…ูุชูˆุญ ุงู„ู…ุตุฏุฑ ู…ุชุนุฏุฏ ุงู„ู„ุบุงุช.
and let us have large scale multimedia, multi language open source content.
ูˆู†ุฌุนู„ู‡ุง ู…ุชูˆูุฑุฉ ู„ู„ุฃุดุฎุงุต ุฏูˆู† ู…ุฌู‡ูˆุฏ ู‚ุฏุฑ ุงู„ุฅู…ูƒุงู†.
and make it available to people as effortlessly as possible.
ูƒู…ุง ุชุนุฑููˆู†ุŒ.
you know, .
ุงู„ุฃุทูุงู„ ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฃู† ูŠุตู†ุนูˆุง ุงู„ู…ุนุฌุฒุงุช ุจุฃุฏูˆุงุช ุจุณูŠุทุฉ.
children can do wonders with simple tools.
ุงู„ู…ุณุทุฑุฉ ุงู„ู‚ุฏู…ูŠุฉ ุชู…ูƒู†ุช ู…ู† ูุนู„ ุฃุดูŠุงุก ู‚ุฏ ุชูƒูˆู† ู…ูƒู„ูุฉ ุฌุฏู‹ุง ุจุงู„ูƒู…ุจูŠูˆุชุฑ.
a foot ruler could do things that maybe a very costly computer.
ูˆุฃุดูŠุงุก ุฃุฎุฑู‰ ุฑุจู…ุง ู„ู… ูŠุชู… ุชุญู‚ูŠู‚ู‡ุง.
and other things might not have achieved.
ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุฃุณุงู„ูŠุจ ุงู„ุชุฑุจูŠุฉ ุงู„ู…ู‚ุชุตุฏุฉุŒ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุชุทู„ุจ ู…ูˆุงุฏ ู‚ู„ูŠู„ุฉ.
so the pedagogies which are frugal, which require few materials.
ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก ุญูˆู„ู†ุง ุฏูŠู…ูˆู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ ุฌุฏู‹ุงุŒ ุดุงู…ู„ุฉ ุฌุฏู‹ุง.
things around us are very democratic, are very inclusive.
ุฅู†ู‡ุง ุชู†ุทูˆูŠ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุญูƒู…ุฉ. ุญูƒู…ุฉ ุงู„ุญูƒู…ุฉ.
they involve wisdom. . the wise of the wisdom.
ูˆุจุทุจูŠุนุฉ ุงู„ุญุงู„ุŒ ุงู„ุนูŠุด ุจุฃู‚ู„ ุงู„ู‚ู„ูŠู„ ูŠุชุทู„ุจ ุงู„ุงุณุชุบู†ุงุก ุนู† ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก.
and of course, living with less to have more requires us to dispense things.
ุงู„ุชูŠ ู„ุง ู†ุญุชุงุฌู‡ุง. ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ู‡ู„ ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ุงู„ุงุณุชุบู†ุงุก ุนู† ุงู„ู‚ู„ูŠู„ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุกุŸ
that we do not need. so can I dispense with few things?
ูู„ู…ุงุฐุง ุงู„ุชุนู„ูŠู… ูŠุนุฒุฒ ุงู„ุฌู…ูˆุฏ ูˆุนุฏู… ุงู„ุงุจุชูƒุงุฑุŸ
so why does education reinforce inertia and not innovation?
ู‡ุฐุง ุณุคุงู„ ุขุฎุฑ ุฃูˆุฏ ุฃู† ุฃุทุฑุญู‡.
that is another question that I want to ask.
ูˆู„ู‚ุฏ ุฑุฃูŠุช ู‡ุฐุง ููŠ ุญูŠุงุชูŠ. ุฏุนูˆู†ูŠ ุฃูˆุถุญ ู„ูƒู….
and I have seen this in my life. let me show you.
ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุฃู…ุซู„ุฉ ุงู„ุซู„ุงุซุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุฑุงู‡ุง ูƒุงู†ุช ู…ุนู†ุง ู„ู‚ุฑูˆู†.
these three examples that you see here have been there with us for centuries.
ุฌู…ูŠุนูƒู… ุชู†ุงูˆู„ ูƒูˆุจู‹ุง ู…ู† ุงู„ุดุงูŠ ููŠ ุงู„ุตุจุงุญ.
all of you have taken a cup of tea in the morning.
ูƒู… ู…ู†ูƒู… ุงู†ุนูƒุณุช ุนู„ูŠู‡ ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ุฃู†ู‡.
how many of you reflected on the fact that.
ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ุฑูุนุช ุงู„ุณูŠุฏุฉ ุงู„ุฃูˆุฑุงู‚ุŒ ู‚ุทุนุชู‡ุงุŒ ุฃูˆ ุชู†ุงูˆู„ุชู‡ุงุŒ ุงู„ุจุฑุงุนู… ู…ู†ุŒ ุดุฌูŠุฑุงุช ุงู„ุดุงูŠ.
when this lady lifts, cuts, or picks up the leaves, the buds from the , tea bush.
ุฅู†ู‡ุง ุชุชู†ุงูˆู„ู‡ุง ูˆุชุถุนู‡ุง ููŠ ุงู„ุตู†ุฏูˆู‚ ุจุงู„ุฎู„ูุŒ
she picks it up and puts it in the basket behind,
ูˆู‡ูŠ ูุนู„ุช ุฐู„ูƒุŒ ุฃู„ููŠู†ุŒ ุซู„ุงุซุฉ ุขู„ุงู.
and she does it, two thousand, three thousand times.
ุญุงูˆู„ ุฃู† ุชูุนู„ู‡ุง ู„ุนุดุฑ ู…ุฑุงุชุŒ ุฎู…ุณ ู…ุฑุงุช.
try to do it ten times, five times.
ูู‚ุท ุงู„ุขู† ุฅุฐุง ุญุงูˆู„ุช ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจุฐู„ูƒ ุณุชุนุฑู ุฃูŠู† ูŠุญุฏุซ ุงู„ุฃู„ู….
just now if you try to do that you will know where the pain occurs.
ู„ูƒู† ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ู†ุชู†ุงูˆู„ ูƒูˆุจู‹ุง ู…ู† ุงู„ุดุงูŠ ุงู„ุฃู„ู… ู„ุง ูŠุญุฏุซ ู„ู†ุง ู†ุญู†ุŒ ู„ุง ู†ูˆุงุฌู‡ ุงู„ุฃู„ู….
But when we take a cup of tea the pain does not occur to us, we do not experience the pain.
ููŠ ูˆู‚ุช ุงู„ุบุฏุงุก ุงู„ูŠูˆู…ุŒ ุฃู†ุง ู…ุชุฃูƒุฏ ุฃู† ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู†ูƒู… ุณูˆู ูŠุฃูƒู„ ุงู„ุฃุฑุฒ.
in the lunchtime today, I am sure many of you will eat rice.
ูƒู… ู…ู†ูƒู… ูŠุนุฑู ุฃู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุณูŠุฏุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ู ุชุณูŠุฑ ู„ุฃู…ูŠุงู„.
how many of you know that this lady in this posture walks for miles.
ุฅุฐุง ุฌู…ุนุช ูƒู„ ุงู„ู…ุณุงูุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุณูŠุฑู‡ุง.
if you add up all the distance that she walks.
ู„ุฒุฑุงุนุฉ ุงู„ุชูˆุช ู…ู† ุญู‚ู„ ุฅู„ู‰ ุญู‚ู„ ุฌุงุนู„ุฉ ู‚ุฏู…ู‡ุง ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุงุก.
for transplanting berry from field to field keeping her feet in the water.
ุชุนุงู†ูŠ ุงู„ู‚ุฏู… ู…ู† ุงู„ู‚ุฑุญุฉุŒ ุงู„ุฃู„ู… ููŠ ุงู„ุธู‡ุฑ.
feet develop ulcers, pain in the back.
ูˆุทูˆุงู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุณู†ูˆุงุช ุชุนุงูŠุดู†ุง ู…ุนู‡ุงุŒ ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ูƒู…ุง ููŠ ู‡ุฐูŠู† ุงู„ุงุซู†ูŠู†.
and for all these years we have lived with it, so as with these two.
ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ู‡ู„ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุดูŠุฆู‹ุง ู…ู†ู‡ุฌูŠู‹ุง. ู‡ู„ ู‡ูˆ ุนุฑุถูŠู‹ุง.
so there is something systematic. is it incidental.
ู„ุง ู„ุง ู„ุงุŒ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู†ู…ุท ู…ู†ู‡ุฌูŠ ุฃู† ุฌู…ูŠุน ุงู„ุฃู†ุดุทุฉ ุงู„ุซู„ุงุซุฉ ู‚ุงุฆู…ุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ู†ุณุงุก.
no no no, there is a systematic pattern that all the three are women-based activities.
ุฅู†ู‡ุง ู„ูŠุณุช ู…ุฌุฑุฏ ุตุฏูุฉ.
it is not just by chance.
ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ู„ูŠุณ ูู‚ุท ุฅู†ูŠ ุฃุฑุฏุช ุชู†ุงูˆู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃู…ุซู„ุฉ 3.
it is not that I wanted to pick up these 3 examples.
ุณุชุฌุฏ ุจุดูƒู„ ู…ุชุบูŠุฑ ุฃู† ุงู„ุฌู…ูˆุฏ ูˆุงุถุญ ุฃูƒุซุฑ ููŠ ุงู„ุฃู†ุดุทุฉุŒ
you will invariably find inertia far more evident in the activities,
ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชู‚ูˆู… ุจุฅุดุฑุงูƒ ุงู„ู†ุณุงุก ุฃูƒุซุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฑุฌุงู„.
that engage women than men.
ูˆู‡ุฐุง ุงู†ุนูƒุงุณ ุญุฒูŠู† ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ู†ุถุน ุจู‡ุง ุฃูˆู„ูˆูŠุงุช ุงู„ุฃู…ูˆุฑ.
and that is a a sad reflection on the way we prioritize things.
ููŠ ู†ุธุงู…ู†ุง ุงู„ุนู„ู…ูŠ ูˆุงู„ุชูƒู†ูˆู„ูˆุฌูŠุŒ ููŠ ุณูŠุงุณุชู†ุง ุงู„ุนุงู…ุฉุŒ ููŠ ู†ุธุงู…ู†ุง ุงู„ุชุนู„ูŠู…ูŠ.
in our science and technology system, in our public policy, in our educational system.
ุดูŠุก ู…ุง ูŠุตุฑู ุงู†ุชุจุงู‡ู†ุง ุจุนูŠุฏู‹ุง ุนู† ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ู†ู‚ุงุท ุงู„ุฑุฆูŠุณูŠุฉ.
something which distracts our attention away from those main points.
ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠุนุงู†ูŠ ู…ู†ู‡ุง ู…ุฌุชู…ุนู†ุง ุจุฅุตุฑุงุฑ ู„ู‚ุฑูˆู†.
that bother our society so persistently for centuries together.
ูˆู„ุง ูŠุจุฏูˆ ุฃู†ู†ุง ู†ุชุญุฑูƒ.
and we do not seem to get moved.
ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ู…ุงุฐุง ู†ูุนู„ุŸ ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ู†ุณุฃู„ ุฃู†ูุณู†ุง ุณุคุงู„ุงู‹.
so what do we do? we need to ask ourselves a question.
ูˆุฏุนูˆู†ูŠ ุฃุฎุจุฑูƒู… ุจู‚ุตุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู‰. ุงู„ุนุฏูŠุฏ ู…ู†ูƒู… ุฑุจู…ุง ู‚ุฏ ูŠูƒูˆู† ุณู…ุน ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู‚ุตุฉ.
and let me tell you another story. many of you might have heard this story.
ุดุฎุตู‹ุง ูƒุงู† ูŠุณูŠุฑ ุนู„ู‰ ุดุงุทุฆ ุงู„ุจุญุฑ ูˆูƒุงู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุณูŠุฏุฉ ุชุดุงู‡ุฏู‡.
a person was walking along the seashore and there was a lady watching him.
ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุฃู…ูˆุงุฌ ุงู„ุจุญุฑ ูƒุงู†ุช ุชู„ู‚ูŠ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ู†ุฌูˆู… ุงู„ุจุญุฑ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุดุงุทุฆ.
so those waves of the sea were throwing lot of starfishes on the shore.
ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุดุฎุต ูƒุงู† ูŠู„ุชู‚ุท ุงู„ู‚ู„ูŠู„ ู…ู† ู†ุฌูˆู… ุงู„ุจุญุฑ ูˆูŠู„ู‚ูŠู‡ุง ู…ุฑุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู‰ ุฏุงุฎู„ ุงู„ุจุญุฑ.
this person would walk and pick up a few starfishes and throw them back into the sea.
ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ุณูŠุฏุฉ ุณุฃู„ุชู‡ "ู…ุงุฐุง ุชูุนู„ุŸ"
so lady asked him "what are you doing?"
"ุชุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู†ู‡ ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ุฅู†ู‚ุงุฐ ุญูŠุงุฉ ุงู„ุขู„ุงู ู…ู† ู†ุฌูˆู… ุงู„ุจุญุฑ ู‡ุฐู‡"
"you think you can save all these thousands of starfishes"
"ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชู„ู‚ูŠู‡ุง ุงู„ุฃู…ูˆุงุฌ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุดุงุทุฆ."
"that the waves are , throwing back at the shore."
ุงู„ุชู‚ุท ูˆุงุญุฏุฉุŒ ุฃู„ู‚ุงู‡ุง ู…ุฑุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู‰ ูˆู‚ุงู„ "ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ุฅู†ู‚ุงุฐ ู‡ุฐู‡".
he picked up one, threw it back and said "I can save this one".
ูˆุชู„ูƒ ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุฑูˆุญ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุชุบู„ุจ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฌู…ูˆุฏ.
and this is the spirit which overcomes inertia.
ู„ุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ุญู„ ุฌู…ูŠุน ุงู„ู…ุดูƒู„ุงุชุŒ ุจุงู„ุชุฃูƒูŠุฏ ู„ุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ุญู„ ุฌู…ูŠุน ุงู„ู…ุดูƒู„ุงุช.
I cannot solve all the problems, surely I cannot solve all the problems.
ู„ูƒู† ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ุญู„ ู‡ุฐู‡. ูˆุฏุนูˆู†ูŠ ุฃุญู„ ู‡ุฐู‡.
but I can solve this one. and let me try to solve this one.
ูˆู„ุง ูŠูˆุฌุฏ ุญุฌุฉุŒ ู„ุง ูŠูˆุฌุฏ ุญุฌุฉ ู„ู‡ุคู„ุงุก ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ูŠุฃุฎุฐูˆู† ุงู„ู…ุจุงุฏุฑุงุช.
and there is no argument, there is no argument for those who take initiatives.
ู„ุฃู† ู„ุฏูŠู‡ู… ุญุฌุฉ ูˆุงุญุฏุฉ ูู‚ุท.
because they have only one argument.
ุฅู†ู‡ู… ูŠุฑุบุจูˆู† ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฃู‚ู„ ููŠ ุฅู„ู‚ุงุก ู†ุฌู…ุฉ ุจุญุฑ ูˆุงุญุฏุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฃู‚ู„ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุจุญุฑ ูˆู‡ุฐุง ูŠุนู…ู„.
that they would like to at least throw one starfish back into the sea and that works.
ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ู†ุณุฃู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุณุคุงู„.
, we must ask this question.
ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุนุฑูุฉุŒ ูˆู†ุดุนุฑ ุจุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ุฅุฒุงุก ุฐู„ูƒ.
we have so much of knowledge, and we feel about this much.
ูˆู†ุชุตุฑู ูู‚ุท ุจู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู‚ุฏุฑ. ุฃู„ูŠุณ ุตุญูŠุญู‹ุงุŸ
and we act only on this much. is not it true?
ูŠูˆุฌุฏ ู…ุซู„ุซ ู…ู‚ู„ูˆุจ ุญูŠุซ ุชุชูˆุณุน ุงู„ู…ุนุฑูุฉ.
there is an inverted triangle where knowledge is expanding.
ุงู„ู…ุดุงุนุฑ ุชู†ูƒู…ุดุŒ ูˆุงู„ุฃูุนุงู„ ููŠ ุจุนุถ ุงู„ุฃุญูŠุงู† ุชุฎุชููŠ.
feelings are constricting, and actions sometimes disappear.
ุฅู† ูƒุงู† ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุบุฑุถ ุงู„ุชุนู„ูŠู… ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ู†ุณุฃู„ ุฃู†ูุณู†ุง ุจุฌุฏ.
if this is the purpose of education we must ask ourselves hard.
ู‡ุฐุง ู„ูŠุณ ู…ุง ูŠู…ูƒู† ู„ู„ุชุนู„ูŠู… ุชุญู‚ูŠู‚ู‡ ููŠ ุชุญูˆูŠู„ ุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุน.
this is not what education can ever achieve in transforming our society.
ุฃู†ุง ู„ุง ุฃู‚ูˆู„ ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ู…ุนุฑูุฉ ุฃู‚ู„ุŒ ุฃู†ุง ู„ุง ุฃู‚ูˆู„ ุฐู„ูƒ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฃู‚ู„.
I am not saying we should have less knowledge, I am not saying that at all.
ุฃู†ุง ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ุฃู‚ูˆู„ ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ุงู„ู‚ู„ูŠู„ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุดุงุนุฑ.
I am indeed saying we should have little more feelings.
ูˆุฃู†ุง ุฃู‚ูˆู„ ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ุฃู† ุจุนุถ ุงู„ู…ุดุงุนุฑ.
and I am indeed saying that some of the feelings.
ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ุดุงุนุฑ ูŠุฌุจ ุชุญูˆูŠู„ู‡ุง ุฅู„ู‰ ุฃูุนุงู„ุŒ ู…ุจุงุฏุฑุงุชุŒ ุญุชู‰ ุฅุฐุง ุดุนุฑุชุŒ ุฃูŠู‹ุง ูƒุงู†.
many of these feelings should be converted into actions, initiatives, even if you feel, so what.
ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ูƒูŠู ู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจุงู„ุชุฌุฑุจุฉุŒ ูƒูŠู ู†ุดุงุฑูƒุŒ ูƒูŠู ู†ุนุฒุฒ ุณุฐุงุฌุชู†ุง.
so how do we express, how do we share, how do we reinforce our naivety?
ู…ุฑุฉ ุฐู‡ุจุช ุฅู„ู‰ ู†ุงูุฌูˆุฑุงุชุŒ ููŠ ู…ู†ุทู‚ุฉ ุณุงู…ุงูŠุŒ ู…ู†ุทู‚ุฉ ุฌุงูุฉ.
once I went to Nav Gujarat, is at the Samay region, dry region.
ุฐู‡ุจู†ุง ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู„ู„ู‚ุงุก ูƒุฑูŠู… ู…ุนุงู„ุฌ .
, we went there to meet a healer Kareem .
ูƒุฑูŠู… ู‡ูˆ ุฎุฒุงูุŒ ูŠุตู†ุน ุนู„ุจ ุทูŠู†ูŠุฉ ุฃูˆุฑูˆุจูŠุฉ.
Kareem is a potter, makes urban clay pots.
ู„ูƒู†ู‡ ุฃูŠุถู‹ุง ู…ุนุงู„ุฌุŒ ูŠุตู†ุน ุนู‚ุงู‚ูŠุฑ ุนุดุจูŠุฉ ูŠูˆุฒุนู‡ุง ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฃุดุฎุงุต ุญูˆู„ู‡.
but he also is a healer, herbal drugs he makes dispenses to the people around.
ูˆู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู…ู„ุงุฐ ู…ู„ุงุฐ ู„ู…ุนุฏุงุช ุงู„ูุชุญุฉ.
and there is a sanctuary sanctuary for slot gear.
ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ูƒู†ุง ู†ุฌู„ุณ ุฎุงุฑุฌ ุงู„ุญุฑู…ุŒ ูƒูˆุฎู‡ ูƒุงู† ุจุงู„ู‚ุฑุจ ู…ู† ุงู„ุบุงุจุฉ.
so we were sitting outside the sanctuary, his hut was very near the jungle.
ูƒุงู†ุช ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุญุฌุงุฑุฉุŒ ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุทู„ุจู†ุง ู…ู†ู‡ ุฃู† ู†ุฌู„ุณ ุนู„ู‰ ุฃุญุฏ ุงู„ุญุฌุงุฑุฉ.
and there were stones, so we request him to sit on one of the rocks.
ูˆุจุนุฏ ุฐู„ูƒ ู‚ุงู„ ู‡ู†ุงูƒุŒ ูƒุงู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู…ุตูˆุฑู‹ุง ู…ุนูŠ ุฌูˆู†ุชูŠุจูŠ.
and then he said there, there was a photographer with me [NE: :PER Juntipy].
ู‡ูˆ ุทู„ุจ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฃุณุชุงุฐ ุฅู† ูƒุงู† ุจุฅู…ูƒุงู†ู‡ ุฃู† ูŠุนุทูŠู‡ ุบุตูŠู†ู‹ุง.
he asked professor can you give him a twig.
ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ุชู‚ุทุช ุบุตูŠู†ู‹ุง ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุจุงุชุงุช ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชู†ู…ูˆ ุจู‚ูˆุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุฌุงู†ุจ ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚.
so I plucked a twig from a plant growing vigorously on the roadside.
ูˆุฃุนุทูŠุชู‡ ู„ู‡ ู„ูŠุญู…ู„ู‡ ููŠ ูŠุฏูŠู‡.
and gave it to him to hold it in his hand.
ูƒุฑูŠู… ุฃุตุจุญ ู…ุชุถุงูŠู‚ู‹ุง.
Kareem became upset.
ู‚ู„ุช "ู…ุงุฐุง ุญุฏุซ ูŠุง ูƒุฑูŠู…ุŒ ู‡ู„ ูุนู„ุช ุดูŠุฆู‹ุง ุฎุทุฆู‹ุง".
I said "what happened Kareem, did I do something wrong".
ู‚ุงู„ "ู‡ู„ ู†ุญู† ุจุญุงุฌุฉ ุฅู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐุง ุบุตูŠู†".
he said "did we need this twig".
ู‚ู„ุช ุฅู†ู‡ ุณูŠุจุฏูˆ ู„ุทูŠูู‹ุง ููŠ ุฅุทุงุฑ ุงู„ุตูˆุฑุฉ ุญุชู‰ ููŠ ุงู„ููŠู„ู….
I said it would look nice in the frame of the photograph so in the film.
ูˆู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุณุจุจ ููŠ ุฃู† ุงู„ู…ุฎุฑุฌ ุฃุฑุงุฏ ุฃู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ููŠ ูŠุฏูŠูƒ.
and that is the reason why the filmmaker wanted it to be in your hand.
ู‚ุงู„ "ูƒุงู† ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ุฃู† ุชุฎุจุฑู†ูŠ ูƒู†ุช ุณุฃุฌู„ุณ ุจุงู„ู‚ุฑุจ ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุจุงุชุงุช".
he said "then you could have told me I would have sat near the plants".
ูˆุฃู†ุง ูƒุงู„ุฃุญู…ู‚ ู‚ู„ุช ุนุจุงุฑุฉ.
and like a fool I made a statement.
ู‚ู„ุช "ู„ูƒู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู†ู‡ู… ููŠ ุฌู…ูŠุน ุฃู†ุญุงุก ุฌุงู†ุจ ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ุŒ ู…ุงุฐุง ุฅุฐุง ุฃุฎุฐุช ุบุตูŠู†ู‹ุง ูˆุงุญุฏู‹ุง."
I said "but there are so many of them around the roadside, what if I took one twig."
ู‚ุงู„ "ู…ุงุฐุง ุชู‚ูˆู„ ูŠุง ุฃุณุชุงุฐุŒ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ุฌุฏู‹ุงุŒ ููŠ ุงู„ุทุจูŠุนุฉุŒ ู„ูŠุณ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุงู„ูƒุซุฑ ุฃุจุฏู‹ุง".
he said "what did you say professor, so many, in nature, there is never too many".
ูŠุง ุฅู„ู‡ูŠุŒ ูŠูˆุฌุฏ ุฃุณุชุงุฐ ุฏุฑุณ ุนู„ู… ุงู„ุจูŠุฆุฉุŒ ุนู„ู… ุงู„ุฃุญูŠุงุก .
my god, here is a professor who has studied ecology, biology .
ูˆุฃู†ุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ุฃู† ุฃู‚ูˆู„ ุนุจุงุฑุฉ ุฃู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู†ุจุงุชุงุช ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚.
and I could make a statement that there were too many of these plants around the road.
ู„ุฃู†ู†ูŠ ูƒู†ุช ุณุงุฐุฌู‹ุงุŒ ูƒู†ุช ุฃุญู…ู‚ุŒ ูƒู†ุช ุฌุงู‡ู„ ููŠ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ.
because I was naรฏve, I was foolish, I was ignorant of the fact.
ุฅู† ุงู„ุทุจูŠุนุฉ ู„ุง ุชู†ุชุฌ ุฃุจุฏู‹ุง ุดูŠุก ุฃูƒุซุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุทู„ูˆุจ.
that nature never produces anything more than what is needed.
ู„ุง ูŠูˆุฌุฏ ู…ูู‡ูˆู… ุงู„ู†ูุงูŠุงุช ููŠ ุงู„ุทุจูŠุนุฉ.
there is no concept of waste in nature.
ูˆู‡ู†ุง ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ุนุงู„ุฌ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุฎุจุฑู†ูŠ ุงู„ุฏุฑุณ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ู‚ุฏ ู†ุณูŠุชู‡.
and here is that healer telling me that lesson which I had forgotten.
ู„ูƒู† ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ุนุงู„ุฌ ุฃู…ูŠ. ูƒูŠู ุฃู…ูƒู†ู‡ ุฃู† ูŠุตุจุญ ุดุฑูŠูƒู‹ุง ุฃุณุงุณูŠู‹ุง ููŠ ุงู„ู†ุธุงู… ุงู„ุชุนู„ูŠู…ูŠ.
but this healer is illiterate. how can he be a key stakeholder in the education system.
ู†ุญู† ู„ุง ู†ุฏุฑุณ ุฐู„ูƒ ูˆุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู† ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุชุญุฏูŠ.
we are not taught about that and I think this is the challenge.