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Does an email threatening to give my child detention if they don't sell raffle tickets for their public high school break any laws? My child received an email saying that they had to sell at least five dollars of raffle tickets for the school or receive detention. It's a public high school and not part of a club. I can provide screenshots of the email if needed.
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izen968
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izehr7j
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I don't think there are any laws prohibiting a school from setting detention. But education is a right. Public shools can't demand money from parents. They also can't exclude children from lessons for arbitrary reasons, not even in the form of an "in school" suspension. States have their own "Education Code" that set the valid reasons for a suspension. Send a note that 1. your child is not allowed to sell raffle tickets and that 2. your child is not allowed to attend detention for not selling raffle tickets. Don't let you child sell raffle tickets, don't let him go to detection. 95% chance the school will drop it. If they escalate to in-school suspension or something like that, contact ACLU. Also make sure you have a email trail stating you disallow detention and why, in case the school tries to report your child truant or something.
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What state? Some states have gambling laws that require raffles to be licensed through their gaming commission. I actually stepped away from leadership in one of my kid’s extracurricular activities because the others all decided they were going to use raffles as a big part of their fundraising, while being illegal in our state.
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zfo6ua
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Does an email threatening to give my child detention if they don't sell raffle tickets for their public high school break any laws? My child received an email saying that they had to sell at least five dollars of raffle tickets for the school or receive detention. It's a public high school and not part of a club. I can provide screenshots of the email if needed.
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izen968
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izebdvg
| 1,670,513,788 | 1,670,508,655 | 179 | 10 |
I don't think there are any laws prohibiting a school from setting detention. But education is a right. Public shools can't demand money from parents. They also can't exclude children from lessons for arbitrary reasons, not even in the form of an "in school" suspension. States have their own "Education Code" that set the valid reasons for a suspension. Send a note that 1. your child is not allowed to sell raffle tickets and that 2. your child is not allowed to attend detention for not selling raffle tickets. Don't let you child sell raffle tickets, don't let him go to detection. 95% chance the school will drop it. If they escalate to in-school suspension or something like that, contact ACLU. Also make sure you have a email trail stating you disallow detention and why, in case the school tries to report your child truant or something.
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Is there anything in the school rules prohibiting gambling?
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zfo6ua
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Does an email threatening to give my child detention if they don't sell raffle tickets for their public high school break any laws? My child received an email saying that they had to sell at least five dollars of raffle tickets for the school or receive detention. It's a public high school and not part of a club. I can provide screenshots of the email if needed.
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izehr7j
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izfk3hs
| 1,670,511,501 | 1,670,526,619 | 21 | 66 |
What state? Some states have gambling laws that require raffles to be licensed through their gaming commission. I actually stepped away from leadership in one of my kid’s extracurricular activities because the others all decided they were going to use raffles as a big part of their fundraising, while being illegal in our state.
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Why doesn’t the school do it the old school way where juniors and seniors had to pay dues/fees for prom and for dances there was an admission fee to cover the cost. That way you had to pay to play and those who didn’t want to did not get punished financially. Detention is total BS as well as forcing it upon the kids. A lot of families can’t afford it which is why the kids don’t get to go.
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zfo6ua
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Does an email threatening to give my child detention if they don't sell raffle tickets for their public high school break any laws? My child received an email saying that they had to sell at least five dollars of raffle tickets for the school or receive detention. It's a public high school and not part of a club. I can provide screenshots of the email if needed.
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izfk3hs
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izfgnxt
| 1,670,526,619 | 1,670,525,287 | 66 | 16 |
Why doesn’t the school do it the old school way where juniors and seniors had to pay dues/fees for prom and for dances there was an admission fee to cover the cost. That way you had to pay to play and those who didn’t want to did not get punished financially. Detention is total BS as well as forcing it upon the kids. A lot of families can’t afford it which is why the kids don’t get to go.
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School can't mandate detention. they can suggest it but you as a parent can tell them to pound sand. So they can threaten it all they want, there's no follow through if you say my kid isn't going to be participating in your detention.
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zfo6ua
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Does an email threatening to give my child detention if they don't sell raffle tickets for their public high school break any laws? My child received an email saying that they had to sell at least five dollars of raffle tickets for the school or receive detention. It's a public high school and not part of a club. I can provide screenshots of the email if needed.
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izfk3hs
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izebdvg
| 1,670,526,619 | 1,670,508,655 | 66 | 10 |
Why doesn’t the school do it the old school way where juniors and seniors had to pay dues/fees for prom and for dances there was an admission fee to cover the cost. That way you had to pay to play and those who didn’t want to did not get punished financially. Detention is total BS as well as forcing it upon the kids. A lot of families can’t afford it which is why the kids don’t get to go.
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Is there anything in the school rules prohibiting gambling?
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zfo6ua
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legaladvice_train
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Does an email threatening to give my child detention if they don't sell raffle tickets for their public high school break any laws? My child received an email saying that they had to sell at least five dollars of raffle tickets for the school or receive detention. It's a public high school and not part of a club. I can provide screenshots of the email if needed.
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izf4jcx
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izfk3hs
| 1,670,520,588 | 1,670,526,619 | 6 | 66 |
For what it’s worth, usually raffles are not approved fundraisers for public education institutions (they are essentially gambling). I wonder if the fundraiser is approved by the school at all. Is it a fundraiser for the school itself or an activity, club, or team? This is something you should approach at the least the head principal, followed by your school board member and then higher up in the district.
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Why doesn’t the school do it the old school way where juniors and seniors had to pay dues/fees for prom and for dances there was an admission fee to cover the cost. That way you had to pay to play and those who didn’t want to did not get punished financially. Detention is total BS as well as forcing it upon the kids. A lot of families can’t afford it which is why the kids don’t get to go.
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zfo6ua
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Does an email threatening to give my child detention if they don't sell raffle tickets for their public high school break any laws? My child received an email saying that they had to sell at least five dollars of raffle tickets for the school or receive detention. It's a public high school and not part of a club. I can provide screenshots of the email if needed.
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izebdvg
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izehr7j
| 1,670,508,655 | 1,670,511,501 | 10 | 21 |
Is there anything in the school rules prohibiting gambling?
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What state? Some states have gambling laws that require raffles to be licensed through their gaming commission. I actually stepped away from leadership in one of my kid’s extracurricular activities because the others all decided they were going to use raffles as a big part of their fundraising, while being illegal in our state.
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zfo6ua
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Does an email threatening to give my child detention if they don't sell raffle tickets for their public high school break any laws? My child received an email saying that they had to sell at least five dollars of raffle tickets for the school or receive detention. It's a public high school and not part of a club. I can provide screenshots of the email if needed.
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izebdvg
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izfgnxt
| 1,670,508,655 | 1,670,525,287 | 10 | 16 |
Is there anything in the school rules prohibiting gambling?
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School can't mandate detention. they can suggest it but you as a parent can tell them to pound sand. So they can threaten it all they want, there's no follow through if you say my kid isn't going to be participating in your detention.
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zfo6ua
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Does an email threatening to give my child detention if they don't sell raffle tickets for their public high school break any laws? My child received an email saying that they had to sell at least five dollars of raffle tickets for the school or receive detention. It's a public high school and not part of a club. I can provide screenshots of the email if needed.
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izfgnxt
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izf4jcx
| 1,670,525,287 | 1,670,520,588 | 16 | 6 |
School can't mandate detention. they can suggest it but you as a parent can tell them to pound sand. So they can threaten it all they want, there's no follow through if you say my kid isn't going to be participating in your detention.
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For what it’s worth, usually raffles are not approved fundraisers for public education institutions (they are essentially gambling). I wonder if the fundraiser is approved by the school at all. Is it a fundraiser for the school itself or an activity, club, or team? This is something you should approach at the least the head principal, followed by your school board member and then higher up in the district.
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zfo6ua
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Does an email threatening to give my child detention if they don't sell raffle tickets for their public high school break any laws? My child received an email saying that they had to sell at least five dollars of raffle tickets for the school or receive detention. It's a public high school and not part of a club. I can provide screenshots of the email if needed.
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izfld5n
| 1,670,520,588 | 1,670,527,125 | 6 | 10 |
For what it’s worth, usually raffles are not approved fundraisers for public education institutions (they are essentially gambling). I wonder if the fundraiser is approved by the school at all. Is it a fundraiser for the school itself or an activity, club, or team? This is something you should approach at the least the head principal, followed by your school board member and then higher up in the district.
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Sue them for not paying wages.
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xj3vfu
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[MA] I was recently fired from my job teaching students English in China because I do not have a "foreign face" Massachusetts I was recently notified by my boss that they had come to a decision to fire me from my job. This came as a surprise to me since I had only begun working for them 2 weeks ago, so I asked him what the specific reason was. He began to tell me that I was not communicating consistently through emails, so I asked him if it was really necessary to remove me from my job and that if it was a communication issue, he could've brought it up to me sooner and I would have been more vigilant to respond in a more timely manner. He then told me that another reason was that the parents of the students I teach (I taught remotely to students in China although the organization is based in America) complained that they want a "foreign face" in the webcam and that since I am Chinese American, they don't trust my instruction, despite my qualifications. I was quite angry at this point but I asked him if I could call him at another time to discuss and clarify my termination. I want to sue the organization for racial discrimination but I am not very experienced in the legal field and am not sure whether I have enough in just this phone conversation to make a case for myself. All other communication prior to this call have been overall pleasant and I felt as though my employer was satisfied with the quality of my work thus far, despite it being only two weeks into the semester. Do I have a case here? What should my next steps be?
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ip6chcl
| 1,663,670,722 | 1,663,668,640 | 219 | 44 |
Things to ask yourself: Do you have damages from this job loss? Did you give up another position to take this one? Do you have one lined up now? Is this an EEO office or HR you can speak with? Is this something a lawyer would take on contingency? If not you’ll be paying legal fees up the roof, are you ready for that? I personally do think you have a case. China discriminates no surprise there, but it’s a US organization and they should have stood their ground especially based in the state of MA. Placing you in a different class would’ve made more sense than terminating you entirely. I would contact attorneys who work in employment/ labor laws. You could also call your county/city and see if they have a number for the local Bar Association to get a cheap consult. I don’t know if they have these type of attorneys on file but every state has a bar association and you could just find out.
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Get something in writing if you can. Massachusetts is a 2-party state — you can’t record covertly. If you’re video communicating remotely and the other party knows you’re recording because that’s routine, or you specifically tell them, you can record for evidence. Where is the company based? If in the US, go to EEOC.gov and find your local office. You can self-file a complaint. This is a cultural preference but it is also national origin discrimination (not race, so be specific). National origin means ethnic heritage, not that you’re necessarily from another nation. National origin is a protected category under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, just as is race. The company may just admit this to an EEOC investigator. My daughter is Chinese (adopted) and she’s been turned away from Chinese owned businesses for “men-only” jobs and they’re not hesitant to say so. Best of luck and update please.☘️
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zeixpa
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I posted a non-work related status about a family member and have been fired from my job that is owned by other family members. Do I have any legal recourse? So this is a bit of a weird one…I work for a company owned in Tx which is a “family owned business”. I am the 3rd generation grandson of this family and have worked with the company since I was 17 (26 now). I posted a status on Facebook saying the following: “I got a nut-case family member trying to go up to Wise county to speak/“minister” to Tanner Horner, the piece of shit who killed 7-year-old Athena Strand. Y’all be doing some weird shit. Don’t do drugs, kids. 🤦🏻♂️” I didn’t tag or mention my father in any way, but the family knew who I was referring to. Within an hour of posting, I’ve been fired and sent home from my job. Do I have any legal recourse on this at all? Thanks in advance.
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iz6vyng
| 1,670,362,876 | 1,670,365,705 | 248 | 386 |
No, that's a perfectly valid reason to fire you.
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You can be fired for no reason. At will means they can do what they want as long as it’s not discrimination. Unfortunately you are out of luck. You are entitled to file for unemployment.
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zeixpa
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I posted a non-work related status about a family member and have been fired from my job that is owned by other family members. Do I have any legal recourse? So this is a bit of a weird one…I work for a company owned in Tx which is a “family owned business”. I am the 3rd generation grandson of this family and have worked with the company since I was 17 (26 now). I posted a status on Facebook saying the following: “I got a nut-case family member trying to go up to Wise county to speak/“minister” to Tanner Horner, the piece of shit who killed 7-year-old Athena Strand. Y’all be doing some weird shit. Don’t do drugs, kids. 🤦🏻♂️” I didn’t tag or mention my father in any way, but the family knew who I was referring to. Within an hour of posting, I’ve been fired and sent home from my job. Do I have any legal recourse on this at all? Thanks in advance.
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iz8de17
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iz8til9
| 1,670,391,129 | 1,670,403,586 | 20 | 25 |
Unless you have a union or employment contract saying otherwise you can be fired for anything that isn't a protected class. Back the wrong sports team? Fireable. Post the wrong thing to facebook? Fireable. Undercook fish? Believe it or not, fireable.
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This is why you don’t post shit on social media, they can definitely fire you for this, which they did. Let this be a lesson.
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zeixpa
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I posted a non-work related status about a family member and have been fired from my job that is owned by other family members. Do I have any legal recourse? So this is a bit of a weird one…I work for a company owned in Tx which is a “family owned business”. I am the 3rd generation grandson of this family and have worked with the company since I was 17 (26 now). I posted a status on Facebook saying the following: “I got a nut-case family member trying to go up to Wise county to speak/“minister” to Tanner Horner, the piece of shit who killed 7-year-old Athena Strand. Y’all be doing some weird shit. Don’t do drugs, kids. 🤦🏻♂️” I didn’t tag or mention my father in any way, but the family knew who I was referring to. Within an hour of posting, I’ve been fired and sent home from my job. Do I have any legal recourse on this at all? Thanks in advance.
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iz8q219
| 1,670,403,586 | 1,670,400,531 | 25 | 3 |
This is why you don’t post shit on social media, they can definitely fire you for this, which they did. Let this be a lesson.
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You qualify for unemployment thats about it.
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pdk6dl
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[NC] Neighbor removed my trees without permission (for the 2nd time). I filed criminal charges. I offered a settlement and their lawyer just accused me of extortion and is threatening to go after me for "filing frivolous charges" if I file a small claims case now. Defendant's Lawyer email to me, after I offered them to settle the criminal case for $ (The same as we successfully settled for 2 years ago when the same neighbor cut down another 1 of my trees): https://imgur.com/a/7DEljMz I drafted the following reply, is it even worth replying or not? >You previously informed me in the last civil and criminal case against the Smiths that you DID have a legal obligation to present offers to them. Now saying you don't shows you misrepresented yourself either previously or now. >I'm definitely not extorting anybody. In case you forgot, the previous criminal case WAS settled. I received a check from your office in return for dropping the case. I never demanded money for peace as you claim. I'm the victim here and I'm the one that wants peace. Your client is the one repeatedly damaging my property. I don't want nor seek out interactions with them. They seem to love the drama by continuously trespassing and injuring my property. >Rule 11 about frivolous filings does not apply as I have mounds of evidence that the Smith's did in fact cause damage to my property - but I welcome you to take that angle if you wish.
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haqskcx
| 1,630,193,388 | 1,630,194,923 | 1,464 | 2,743 |
yeah, you have no authority to dismiss criminal charges and saying "pay me and i will drop all criminal charges" can be seen as extortion or blackmail. if all you wanted was money, you should have just filed a lawsuit If I was the prosecutor I would dismiss the case and soon as I heard about your offer
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Definitely don’t send that reply. You need to contact a lawyer and explain this all, and they can check with the DA to see how this could affect the case.
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pdk6dl
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[NC] Neighbor removed my trees without permission (for the 2nd time). I filed criminal charges. I offered a settlement and their lawyer just accused me of extortion and is threatening to go after me for "filing frivolous charges" if I file a small claims case now. Defendant's Lawyer email to me, after I offered them to settle the criminal case for $ (The same as we successfully settled for 2 years ago when the same neighbor cut down another 1 of my trees): https://imgur.com/a/7DEljMz I drafted the following reply, is it even worth replying or not? >You previously informed me in the last civil and criminal case against the Smiths that you DID have a legal obligation to present offers to them. Now saying you don't shows you misrepresented yourself either previously or now. >I'm definitely not extorting anybody. In case you forgot, the previous criminal case WAS settled. I received a check from your office in return for dropping the case. I never demanded money for peace as you claim. I'm the victim here and I'm the one that wants peace. Your client is the one repeatedly damaging my property. I don't want nor seek out interactions with them. They seem to love the drama by continuously trespassing and injuring my property. >Rule 11 about frivolous filings does not apply as I have mounds of evidence that the Smith's did in fact cause damage to my property - but I welcome you to take that angle if you wish.
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harcyad
| 1,630,193,388 | 1,630,205,507 | 1,464 | 1,845 |
yeah, you have no authority to dismiss criminal charges and saying "pay me and i will drop all criminal charges" can be seen as extortion or blackmail. if all you wanted was money, you should have just filed a lawsuit If I was the prosecutor I would dismiss the case and soon as I heard about your offer
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You're out of diy territory. They lawyered up, you should follow (and file) suit.
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pdk6dl
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[NC] Neighbor removed my trees without permission (for the 2nd time). I filed criminal charges. I offered a settlement and their lawyer just accused me of extortion and is threatening to go after me for "filing frivolous charges" if I file a small claims case now. Defendant's Lawyer email to me, after I offered them to settle the criminal case for $ (The same as we successfully settled for 2 years ago when the same neighbor cut down another 1 of my trees): https://imgur.com/a/7DEljMz I drafted the following reply, is it even worth replying or not? >You previously informed me in the last civil and criminal case against the Smiths that you DID have a legal obligation to present offers to them. Now saying you don't shows you misrepresented yourself either previously or now. >I'm definitely not extorting anybody. In case you forgot, the previous criminal case WAS settled. I received a check from your office in return for dropping the case. I never demanded money for peace as you claim. I'm the victim here and I'm the one that wants peace. Your client is the one repeatedly damaging my property. I don't want nor seek out interactions with them. They seem to love the drama by continuously trespassing and injuring my property. >Rule 11 about frivolous filings does not apply as I have mounds of evidence that the Smith's did in fact cause damage to my property - but I welcome you to take that angle if you wish.
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harcyad
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har6bau
| 1,630,205,507 | 1,630,201,966 | 1,845 | 360 |
You're out of diy territory. They lawyered up, you should follow (and file) suit.
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Sounds like your expectations for how this is all supposed to play out is based very much on how things went the last time they damaged your property. Just because you got paid once to drop a criminal case doesn't mean it's always going to go down that way, or that it was kosher the first time. Sounds hinky if you ask me. The opposing lawyer sounds like you just gave him some ammunition. He's definitely making sure this doesn't go like it did last time. You had a reasonable misunderstanding of this process based on previous experience with similar circumstances. It happens, you are no lawyer, but you need one now that the word extortion is being used and the DA is being contacted A lawyer is the best way to make sure what you've already said doesn't get used against you and ensuring you get the justice. Without one your neighbor might get off because you understandably thought this time would be no different than the last.
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pdk6dl
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[NC] Neighbor removed my trees without permission (for the 2nd time). I filed criminal charges. I offered a settlement and their lawyer just accused me of extortion and is threatening to go after me for "filing frivolous charges" if I file a small claims case now. Defendant's Lawyer email to me, after I offered them to settle the criminal case for $ (The same as we successfully settled for 2 years ago when the same neighbor cut down another 1 of my trees): https://imgur.com/a/7DEljMz I drafted the following reply, is it even worth replying or not? >You previously informed me in the last civil and criminal case against the Smiths that you DID have a legal obligation to present offers to them. Now saying you don't shows you misrepresented yourself either previously or now. >I'm definitely not extorting anybody. In case you forgot, the previous criminal case WAS settled. I received a check from your office in return for dropping the case. I never demanded money for peace as you claim. I'm the victim here and I'm the one that wants peace. Your client is the one repeatedly damaging my property. I don't want nor seek out interactions with them. They seem to love the drama by continuously trespassing and injuring my property. >Rule 11 about frivolous filings does not apply as I have mounds of evidence that the Smith's did in fact cause damage to my property - but I welcome you to take that angle if you wish.
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harcyad
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har8h0d
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You're out of diy territory. They lawyered up, you should follow (and file) suit.
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What he's saying is correct insofar that this a criminal proceeding that only the prosecutor can drop, and it IS inappropriate to *phrase* it that way. You simply misunderstood that because you were made 'whole' previously the prosecutor elected not to pursue it. You could convey to the prosecutor that you would request damages as a condition of any plea deal in the criminal case, but they have no obligation to include it or drop the case. Nothing here bars you from filing a civil suit for recovery of your damages at the conclusion of the criminal case, which is where and how damages are typically recovered.
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pdk6dl
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[NC] Neighbor removed my trees without permission (for the 2nd time). I filed criminal charges. I offered a settlement and their lawyer just accused me of extortion and is threatening to go after me for "filing frivolous charges" if I file a small claims case now. Defendant's Lawyer email to me, after I offered them to settle the criminal case for $ (The same as we successfully settled for 2 years ago when the same neighbor cut down another 1 of my trees): https://imgur.com/a/7DEljMz I drafted the following reply, is it even worth replying or not? >You previously informed me in the last civil and criminal case against the Smiths that you DID have a legal obligation to present offers to them. Now saying you don't shows you misrepresented yourself either previously or now. >I'm definitely not extorting anybody. In case you forgot, the previous criminal case WAS settled. I received a check from your office in return for dropping the case. I never demanded money for peace as you claim. I'm the victim here and I'm the one that wants peace. Your client is the one repeatedly damaging my property. I don't want nor seek out interactions with them. They seem to love the drama by continuously trespassing and injuring my property. >Rule 11 about frivolous filings does not apply as I have mounds of evidence that the Smith's did in fact cause damage to my property - but I welcome you to take that angle if you wish.
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harcyad
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haqzhbs
| 1,630,205,507 | 1,630,198,442 | 1,845 | 32 |
You're out of diy territory. They lawyered up, you should follow (and file) suit.
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It’s not extortion to insist on your legal rights, and it’s certainly not a Rule 11 violation. Talk to a lawyer, that’s really the only sound advice when the adverse party has their own lawyer.
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[NC] Neighbor removed my trees without permission (for the 2nd time). I filed criminal charges. I offered a settlement and their lawyer just accused me of extortion and is threatening to go after me for "filing frivolous charges" if I file a small claims case now. Defendant's Lawyer email to me, after I offered them to settle the criminal case for $ (The same as we successfully settled for 2 years ago when the same neighbor cut down another 1 of my trees): https://imgur.com/a/7DEljMz I drafted the following reply, is it even worth replying or not? >You previously informed me in the last civil and criminal case against the Smiths that you DID have a legal obligation to present offers to them. Now saying you don't shows you misrepresented yourself either previously or now. >I'm definitely not extorting anybody. In case you forgot, the previous criminal case WAS settled. I received a check from your office in return for dropping the case. I never demanded money for peace as you claim. I'm the victim here and I'm the one that wants peace. Your client is the one repeatedly damaging my property. I don't want nor seek out interactions with them. They seem to love the drama by continuously trespassing and injuring my property. >Rule 11 about frivolous filings does not apply as I have mounds of evidence that the Smith's did in fact cause damage to my property - but I welcome you to take that angle if you wish.
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har6bau
| 1,630,198,442 | 1,630,201,966 | 32 | 360 |
It’s not extortion to insist on your legal rights, and it’s certainly not a Rule 11 violation. Talk to a lawyer, that’s really the only sound advice when the adverse party has their own lawyer.
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Sounds like your expectations for how this is all supposed to play out is based very much on how things went the last time they damaged your property. Just because you got paid once to drop a criminal case doesn't mean it's always going to go down that way, or that it was kosher the first time. Sounds hinky if you ask me. The opposing lawyer sounds like you just gave him some ammunition. He's definitely making sure this doesn't go like it did last time. You had a reasonable misunderstanding of this process based on previous experience with similar circumstances. It happens, you are no lawyer, but you need one now that the word extortion is being used and the DA is being contacted A lawyer is the best way to make sure what you've already said doesn't get used against you and ensuring you get the justice. Without one your neighbor might get off because you understandably thought this time would be no different than the last.
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pdk6dl
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[NC] Neighbor removed my trees without permission (for the 2nd time). I filed criminal charges. I offered a settlement and their lawyer just accused me of extortion and is threatening to go after me for "filing frivolous charges" if I file a small claims case now. Defendant's Lawyer email to me, after I offered them to settle the criminal case for $ (The same as we successfully settled for 2 years ago when the same neighbor cut down another 1 of my trees): https://imgur.com/a/7DEljMz I drafted the following reply, is it even worth replying or not? >You previously informed me in the last civil and criminal case against the Smiths that you DID have a legal obligation to present offers to them. Now saying you don't shows you misrepresented yourself either previously or now. >I'm definitely not extorting anybody. In case you forgot, the previous criminal case WAS settled. I received a check from your office in return for dropping the case. I never demanded money for peace as you claim. I'm the victim here and I'm the one that wants peace. Your client is the one repeatedly damaging my property. I don't want nor seek out interactions with them. They seem to love the drama by continuously trespassing and injuring my property. >Rule 11 about frivolous filings does not apply as I have mounds of evidence that the Smith's did in fact cause damage to my property - but I welcome you to take that angle if you wish.
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har8h0d
| 1,630,198,442 | 1,630,203,105 | 32 | 151 |
It’s not extortion to insist on your legal rights, and it’s certainly not a Rule 11 violation. Talk to a lawyer, that’s really the only sound advice when the adverse party has their own lawyer.
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What he's saying is correct insofar that this a criminal proceeding that only the prosecutor can drop, and it IS inappropriate to *phrase* it that way. You simply misunderstood that because you were made 'whole' previously the prosecutor elected not to pursue it. You could convey to the prosecutor that you would request damages as a condition of any plea deal in the criminal case, but they have no obligation to include it or drop the case. Nothing here bars you from filing a civil suit for recovery of your damages at the conclusion of the criminal case, which is where and how damages are typically recovered.
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pdk6dl
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[NC] Neighbor removed my trees without permission (for the 2nd time). I filed criminal charges. I offered a settlement and their lawyer just accused me of extortion and is threatening to go after me for "filing frivolous charges" if I file a small claims case now. Defendant's Lawyer email to me, after I offered them to settle the criminal case for $ (The same as we successfully settled for 2 years ago when the same neighbor cut down another 1 of my trees): https://imgur.com/a/7DEljMz I drafted the following reply, is it even worth replying or not? >You previously informed me in the last civil and criminal case against the Smiths that you DID have a legal obligation to present offers to them. Now saying you don't shows you misrepresented yourself either previously or now. >I'm definitely not extorting anybody. In case you forgot, the previous criminal case WAS settled. I received a check from your office in return for dropping the case. I never demanded money for peace as you claim. I'm the victim here and I'm the one that wants peace. Your client is the one repeatedly damaging my property. I don't want nor seek out interactions with them. They seem to love the drama by continuously trespassing and injuring my property. >Rule 11 about frivolous filings does not apply as I have mounds of evidence that the Smith's did in fact cause damage to my property - but I welcome you to take that angle if you wish.
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haqzhbs
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Offering dropping criminal charges in exchange for money is indeed illegal. You cannot do that. You can settle a civil case, but you cannot offer to withdraw a criminal complaint if someone pays you off. That is extortion.
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It’s not extortion to insist on your legal rights, and it’s certainly not a Rule 11 violation. Talk to a lawyer, that’s really the only sound advice when the adverse party has their own lawyer.
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pdk6dl
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[NC] Neighbor removed my trees without permission (for the 2nd time). I filed criminal charges. I offered a settlement and their lawyer just accused me of extortion and is threatening to go after me for "filing frivolous charges" if I file a small claims case now. Defendant's Lawyer email to me, after I offered them to settle the criminal case for $ (The same as we successfully settled for 2 years ago when the same neighbor cut down another 1 of my trees): https://imgur.com/a/7DEljMz I drafted the following reply, is it even worth replying or not? >You previously informed me in the last civil and criminal case against the Smiths that you DID have a legal obligation to present offers to them. Now saying you don't shows you misrepresented yourself either previously or now. >I'm definitely not extorting anybody. In case you forgot, the previous criminal case WAS settled. I received a check from your office in return for dropping the case. I never demanded money for peace as you claim. I'm the victim here and I'm the one that wants peace. Your client is the one repeatedly damaging my property. I don't want nor seek out interactions with them. They seem to love the drama by continuously trespassing and injuring my property. >Rule 11 about frivolous filings does not apply as I have mounds of evidence that the Smith's did in fact cause damage to my property - but I welcome you to take that angle if you wish.
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harh589
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Offering dropping criminal charges in exchange for money is indeed illegal. You cannot do that. You can settle a civil case, but you cannot offer to withdraw a criminal complaint if someone pays you off. That is extortion.
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Why isn’t your homeowners insurance dealing with the damages?
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pdk6dl
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[NC] Neighbor removed my trees without permission (for the 2nd time). I filed criminal charges. I offered a settlement and their lawyer just accused me of extortion and is threatening to go after me for "filing frivolous charges" if I file a small claims case now. Defendant's Lawyer email to me, after I offered them to settle the criminal case for $ (The same as we successfully settled for 2 years ago when the same neighbor cut down another 1 of my trees): https://imgur.com/a/7DEljMz I drafted the following reply, is it even worth replying or not? >You previously informed me in the last civil and criminal case against the Smiths that you DID have a legal obligation to present offers to them. Now saying you don't shows you misrepresented yourself either previously or now. >I'm definitely not extorting anybody. In case you forgot, the previous criminal case WAS settled. I received a check from your office in return for dropping the case. I never demanded money for peace as you claim. I'm the victim here and I'm the one that wants peace. Your client is the one repeatedly damaging my property. I don't want nor seek out interactions with them. They seem to love the drama by continuously trespassing and injuring my property. >Rule 11 about frivolous filings does not apply as I have mounds of evidence that the Smith's did in fact cause damage to my property - but I welcome you to take that angle if you wish.
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hasi0mu
| 1,630,198,442 | 1,630,236,270 | 32 | 44 |
It’s not extortion to insist on your legal rights, and it’s certainly not a Rule 11 violation. Talk to a lawyer, that’s really the only sound advice when the adverse party has their own lawyer.
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NC attorney here. This is not legal advice. You need to hire an attorney to give you legal advice. Hire a lawyer to help you with this. They will know about ncgs 1-539.1 and chapter 1-D to help potentially increase your damages in a civil suit. The attorney you hire can also reach out the the DA and explain the intent of your communication with an the opposing attorney much better than you are able to. It seems like you are trying to get what’s called “restitution”. That can be available in some criminal cases. The whole “I’ll drop the case if you pay me money” can be problematic in a criminal case if the DA isn’t making the offer. Your attorney can probably explain away the extortion issue.
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pdk6dl
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[NC] Neighbor removed my trees without permission (for the 2nd time). I filed criminal charges. I offered a settlement and their lawyer just accused me of extortion and is threatening to go after me for "filing frivolous charges" if I file a small claims case now. Defendant's Lawyer email to me, after I offered them to settle the criminal case for $ (The same as we successfully settled for 2 years ago when the same neighbor cut down another 1 of my trees): https://imgur.com/a/7DEljMz I drafted the following reply, is it even worth replying or not? >You previously informed me in the last civil and criminal case against the Smiths that you DID have a legal obligation to present offers to them. Now saying you don't shows you misrepresented yourself either previously or now. >I'm definitely not extorting anybody. In case you forgot, the previous criminal case WAS settled. I received a check from your office in return for dropping the case. I never demanded money for peace as you claim. I'm the victim here and I'm the one that wants peace. Your client is the one repeatedly damaging my property. I don't want nor seek out interactions with them. They seem to love the drama by continuously trespassing and injuring my property. >Rule 11 about frivolous filings does not apply as I have mounds of evidence that the Smith's did in fact cause damage to my property - but I welcome you to take that angle if you wish.
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harusoe
| 1,630,236,270 | 1,630,216,714 | 44 | 29 |
NC attorney here. This is not legal advice. You need to hire an attorney to give you legal advice. Hire a lawyer to help you with this. They will know about ncgs 1-539.1 and chapter 1-D to help potentially increase your damages in a civil suit. The attorney you hire can also reach out the the DA and explain the intent of your communication with an the opposing attorney much better than you are able to. It seems like you are trying to get what’s called “restitution”. That can be available in some criminal cases. The whole “I’ll drop the case if you pay me money” can be problematic in a criminal case if the DA isn’t making the offer. Your attorney can probably explain away the extortion issue.
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Obligated not a lawyer in your state, this isn't legal advice, all the regular don't take legal advice from a subreddit warnings, etc I don't know NC law but I'm assuming they likely have restitution as part of the criminal case so provide the prosecutors proof of how much the damage cost and see if restitution can be paid to you as part of the resolution of the criminal case. Also, here, and sounds like in NC too from the response, you get to decide if you're filing the report to an extent (police aren't filing a case if they don't know about it) but once the state goes forward with charges, it is on them if they want to drop the case or not. The alleged victim can write an affidavit of nonprosecution but the prosecutor doesn't have to give a shit. Alleged victims write them all the time here and then look around all confused when they submit it and the prosecutor is like you know what? Nah, we're going forward. Either way, I'd consult an attorney and not send that response. I'm gonna sound like an asshole but law is one of the few fields that for whatever reason, people seem to think their Google research equals a law degree and I'm sorry to say that in like 99% of the cases (from my visual research lol) when a layperson writes a legal response or some petition or motion with the court, it is painfully obvious and often have picked up mostly right legal terms and law but typically apply them wrong, fail to realize their case falls under a certain exception, etc. Get an opinion from a NC attorney before possibly ruining a potential claim you may have because just because it worked out one way last time doesn't mean you didn't potentially fuck it up and just happened to get lucky.
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[NC] Neighbor removed my trees without permission (for the 2nd time). I filed criminal charges. I offered a settlement and their lawyer just accused me of extortion and is threatening to go after me for "filing frivolous charges" if I file a small claims case now. Defendant's Lawyer email to me, after I offered them to settle the criminal case for $ (The same as we successfully settled for 2 years ago when the same neighbor cut down another 1 of my trees): https://imgur.com/a/7DEljMz I drafted the following reply, is it even worth replying or not? >You previously informed me in the last civil and criminal case against the Smiths that you DID have a legal obligation to present offers to them. Now saying you don't shows you misrepresented yourself either previously or now. >I'm definitely not extorting anybody. In case you forgot, the previous criminal case WAS settled. I received a check from your office in return for dropping the case. I never demanded money for peace as you claim. I'm the victim here and I'm the one that wants peace. Your client is the one repeatedly damaging my property. I don't want nor seek out interactions with them. They seem to love the drama by continuously trespassing and injuring my property. >Rule 11 about frivolous filings does not apply as I have mounds of evidence that the Smith's did in fact cause damage to my property - but I welcome you to take that angle if you wish.
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harpbtw
| 1,630,236,270 | 1,630,212,861 | 44 | 22 |
NC attorney here. This is not legal advice. You need to hire an attorney to give you legal advice. Hire a lawyer to help you with this. They will know about ncgs 1-539.1 and chapter 1-D to help potentially increase your damages in a civil suit. The attorney you hire can also reach out the the DA and explain the intent of your communication with an the opposing attorney much better than you are able to. It seems like you are trying to get what’s called “restitution”. That can be available in some criminal cases. The whole “I’ll drop the case if you pay me money” can be problematic in a criminal case if the DA isn’t making the offer. Your attorney can probably explain away the extortion issue.
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I would refer you to North Carolina General Statute 1-539.1 which specifically states that the offending party is liable for double the value of any wood, timber, shrubs or trees that they injured, cut or removed. There is no possible way that any claim you file could be considered frivolous under the law. A single mature tree can be worth hundreds to thousands of dollars depending on size and species.
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[NC] Neighbor removed my trees without permission (for the 2nd time). I filed criminal charges. I offered a settlement and their lawyer just accused me of extortion and is threatening to go after me for "filing frivolous charges" if I file a small claims case now. Defendant's Lawyer email to me, after I offered them to settle the criminal case for $ (The same as we successfully settled for 2 years ago when the same neighbor cut down another 1 of my trees): https://imgur.com/a/7DEljMz I drafted the following reply, is it even worth replying or not? >You previously informed me in the last civil and criminal case against the Smiths that you DID have a legal obligation to present offers to them. Now saying you don't shows you misrepresented yourself either previously or now. >I'm definitely not extorting anybody. In case you forgot, the previous criminal case WAS settled. I received a check from your office in return for dropping the case. I never demanded money for peace as you claim. I'm the victim here and I'm the one that wants peace. Your client is the one repeatedly damaging my property. I don't want nor seek out interactions with them. They seem to love the drama by continuously trespassing and injuring my property. >Rule 11 about frivolous filings does not apply as I have mounds of evidence that the Smith's did in fact cause damage to my property - but I welcome you to take that angle if you wish.
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hasi0mu
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harh589
| 1,630,236,270 | 1,630,207,884 | 44 | 10 |
NC attorney here. This is not legal advice. You need to hire an attorney to give you legal advice. Hire a lawyer to help you with this. They will know about ncgs 1-539.1 and chapter 1-D to help potentially increase your damages in a civil suit. The attorney you hire can also reach out the the DA and explain the intent of your communication with an the opposing attorney much better than you are able to. It seems like you are trying to get what’s called “restitution”. That can be available in some criminal cases. The whole “I’ll drop the case if you pay me money” can be problematic in a criminal case if the DA isn’t making the offer. Your attorney can probably explain away the extortion issue.
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Why isn’t your homeowners insurance dealing with the damages?
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pdk6dl
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[NC] Neighbor removed my trees without permission (for the 2nd time). I filed criminal charges. I offered a settlement and their lawyer just accused me of extortion and is threatening to go after me for "filing frivolous charges" if I file a small claims case now. Defendant's Lawyer email to me, after I offered them to settle the criminal case for $ (The same as we successfully settled for 2 years ago when the same neighbor cut down another 1 of my trees): https://imgur.com/a/7DEljMz I drafted the following reply, is it even worth replying or not? >You previously informed me in the last civil and criminal case against the Smiths that you DID have a legal obligation to present offers to them. Now saying you don't shows you misrepresented yourself either previously or now. >I'm definitely not extorting anybody. In case you forgot, the previous criminal case WAS settled. I received a check from your office in return for dropping the case. I never demanded money for peace as you claim. I'm the victim here and I'm the one that wants peace. Your client is the one repeatedly damaging my property. I don't want nor seek out interactions with them. They seem to love the drama by continuously trespassing and injuring my property. >Rule 11 about frivolous filings does not apply as I have mounds of evidence that the Smith's did in fact cause damage to my property - but I welcome you to take that angle if you wish.
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harusoe
| 1,630,212,861 | 1,630,216,714 | 22 | 29 |
I would refer you to North Carolina General Statute 1-539.1 which specifically states that the offending party is liable for double the value of any wood, timber, shrubs or trees that they injured, cut or removed. There is no possible way that any claim you file could be considered frivolous under the law. A single mature tree can be worth hundreds to thousands of dollars depending on size and species.
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Obligated not a lawyer in your state, this isn't legal advice, all the regular don't take legal advice from a subreddit warnings, etc I don't know NC law but I'm assuming they likely have restitution as part of the criminal case so provide the prosecutors proof of how much the damage cost and see if restitution can be paid to you as part of the resolution of the criminal case. Also, here, and sounds like in NC too from the response, you get to decide if you're filing the report to an extent (police aren't filing a case if they don't know about it) but once the state goes forward with charges, it is on them if they want to drop the case or not. The alleged victim can write an affidavit of nonprosecution but the prosecutor doesn't have to give a shit. Alleged victims write them all the time here and then look around all confused when they submit it and the prosecutor is like you know what? Nah, we're going forward. Either way, I'd consult an attorney and not send that response. I'm gonna sound like an asshole but law is one of the few fields that for whatever reason, people seem to think their Google research equals a law degree and I'm sorry to say that in like 99% of the cases (from my visual research lol) when a layperson writes a legal response or some petition or motion with the court, it is painfully obvious and often have picked up mostly right legal terms and law but typically apply them wrong, fail to realize their case falls under a certain exception, etc. Get an opinion from a NC attorney before possibly ruining a potential claim you may have because just because it worked out one way last time doesn't mean you didn't potentially fuck it up and just happened to get lucky.
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pdk6dl
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[NC] Neighbor removed my trees without permission (for the 2nd time). I filed criminal charges. I offered a settlement and their lawyer just accused me of extortion and is threatening to go after me for "filing frivolous charges" if I file a small claims case now. Defendant's Lawyer email to me, after I offered them to settle the criminal case for $ (The same as we successfully settled for 2 years ago when the same neighbor cut down another 1 of my trees): https://imgur.com/a/7DEljMz I drafted the following reply, is it even worth replying or not? >You previously informed me in the last civil and criminal case against the Smiths that you DID have a legal obligation to present offers to them. Now saying you don't shows you misrepresented yourself either previously or now. >I'm definitely not extorting anybody. In case you forgot, the previous criminal case WAS settled. I received a check from your office in return for dropping the case. I never demanded money for peace as you claim. I'm the victim here and I'm the one that wants peace. Your client is the one repeatedly damaging my property. I don't want nor seek out interactions with them. They seem to love the drama by continuously trespassing and injuring my property. >Rule 11 about frivolous filings does not apply as I have mounds of evidence that the Smith's did in fact cause damage to my property - but I welcome you to take that angle if you wish.
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harusoe
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Why isn’t your homeowners insurance dealing with the damages?
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Obligated not a lawyer in your state, this isn't legal advice, all the regular don't take legal advice from a subreddit warnings, etc I don't know NC law but I'm assuming they likely have restitution as part of the criminal case so provide the prosecutors proof of how much the damage cost and see if restitution can be paid to you as part of the resolution of the criminal case. Also, here, and sounds like in NC too from the response, you get to decide if you're filing the report to an extent (police aren't filing a case if they don't know about it) but once the state goes forward with charges, it is on them if they want to drop the case or not. The alleged victim can write an affidavit of nonprosecution but the prosecutor doesn't have to give a shit. Alleged victims write them all the time here and then look around all confused when they submit it and the prosecutor is like you know what? Nah, we're going forward. Either way, I'd consult an attorney and not send that response. I'm gonna sound like an asshole but law is one of the few fields that for whatever reason, people seem to think their Google research equals a law degree and I'm sorry to say that in like 99% of the cases (from my visual research lol) when a layperson writes a legal response or some petition or motion with the court, it is painfully obvious and often have picked up mostly right legal terms and law but typically apply them wrong, fail to realize their case falls under a certain exception, etc. Get an opinion from a NC attorney before possibly ruining a potential claim you may have because just because it worked out one way last time doesn't mean you didn't potentially fuck it up and just happened to get lucky.
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[NC] Neighbor removed my trees without permission (for the 2nd time). I filed criminal charges. I offered a settlement and their lawyer just accused me of extortion and is threatening to go after me for "filing frivolous charges" if I file a small claims case now. Defendant's Lawyer email to me, after I offered them to settle the criminal case for $ (The same as we successfully settled for 2 years ago when the same neighbor cut down another 1 of my trees): https://imgur.com/a/7DEljMz I drafted the following reply, is it even worth replying or not? >You previously informed me in the last civil and criminal case against the Smiths that you DID have a legal obligation to present offers to them. Now saying you don't shows you misrepresented yourself either previously or now. >I'm definitely not extorting anybody. In case you forgot, the previous criminal case WAS settled. I received a check from your office in return for dropping the case. I never demanded money for peace as you claim. I'm the victim here and I'm the one that wants peace. Your client is the one repeatedly damaging my property. I don't want nor seek out interactions with them. They seem to love the drama by continuously trespassing and injuring my property. >Rule 11 about frivolous filings does not apply as I have mounds of evidence that the Smith's did in fact cause damage to my property - but I welcome you to take that angle if you wish.
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harpbtw
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Why isn’t your homeowners insurance dealing with the damages?
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I would refer you to North Carolina General Statute 1-539.1 which specifically states that the offending party is liable for double the value of any wood, timber, shrubs or trees that they injured, cut or removed. There is no possible way that any claim you file could be considered frivolous under the law. A single mature tree can be worth hundreds to thousands of dollars depending on size and species.
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[USA] Can I, a minor, give my US passport to my friend for safekeeping without my parents' permission? I am a US born minor citizen attending a public high school. Child of immigrants from a South Asian country. My parents have become increasingly conservative over the past year. There are a number of things that have happened that are warning signs for forced marriage. There hasn't been any physical violence or threats of physical violence, but I'm really fucking scared. The thing I am most afraid of is a "vacation" or a permanent move back to my parents' home country for some stupid reason like "you're too Westernized" for wearing a pair of fucking shorts. I currently have my passport with me. I just want to take my passport and give it to someone else I know and trust. Can I do that without my parents' permission and knowledge?
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ic0wnf2
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If you believe that forced marriage could be a possibility, you might try contacting the Center for Missing and Exploited Children. They may be able to offer guidance since they have probably dealt with similar circumstances before.
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This wouldn’t prevent them from getting it replaced as a lost or stolen passport but it would prevent you from traveling for at least 6 weeks as they order a replacement (which is only like $150ish to do) Tell anyone and everyone in a law enforcement or airline uniform at the airport you are being forced onto the flight against your will and are concerned you are being trafficked. Nobody at the airport will physically force you onto the plane at your parents request/demand. It’s on them to get you on the plane. You also want to contact the state department (look up United States citizen services) and the specific embassy for the country and contact them. There is an online form you can submit about travel to let the embassy know you are in country. If you can find a consulate in the nearest city to where you’d go, reach out to them too. Use that to tell them you are concerned if you are taken there it is against your will.
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[USA] Can I, a minor, give my US passport to my friend for safekeeping without my parents' permission? I am a US born minor citizen attending a public high school. Child of immigrants from a South Asian country. My parents have become increasingly conservative over the past year. There are a number of things that have happened that are warning signs for forced marriage. There hasn't been any physical violence or threats of physical violence, but I'm really fucking scared. The thing I am most afraid of is a "vacation" or a permanent move back to my parents' home country for some stupid reason like "you're too Westernized" for wearing a pair of fucking shorts. I currently have my passport with me. I just want to take my passport and give it to someone else I know and trust. Can I do that without my parents' permission and knowledge?
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ic0wnf2
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US Citizenship and Immigration Services offers this page regarding Forced Marriages, including links for confidential help: https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/forced-marriage Please contact an adult that has power to help, and not just rely on a young friend.
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This wouldn’t prevent them from getting it replaced as a lost or stolen passport but it would prevent you from traveling for at least 6 weeks as they order a replacement (which is only like $150ish to do) Tell anyone and everyone in a law enforcement or airline uniform at the airport you are being forced onto the flight against your will and are concerned you are being trafficked. Nobody at the airport will physically force you onto the plane at your parents request/demand. It’s on them to get you on the plane. You also want to contact the state department (look up United States citizen services) and the specific embassy for the country and contact them. There is an online form you can submit about travel to let the embassy know you are in country. If you can find a consulate in the nearest city to where you’d go, reach out to them too. Use that to tell them you are concerned if you are taken there it is against your will.
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va3kmp
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[USA] Can I, a minor, give my US passport to my friend for safekeeping without my parents' permission? I am a US born minor citizen attending a public high school. Child of immigrants from a South Asian country. My parents have become increasingly conservative over the past year. There are a number of things that have happened that are warning signs for forced marriage. There hasn't been any physical violence or threats of physical violence, but I'm really fucking scared. The thing I am most afraid of is a "vacation" or a permanent move back to my parents' home country for some stupid reason like "you're too Westernized" for wearing a pair of fucking shorts. I currently have my passport with me. I just want to take my passport and give it to someone else I know and trust. Can I do that without my parents' permission and knowledge?
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Yes, that is a good move. Also please contact Unchained At Last, an organization that helps people escape child marriages and forced marriages. Their number is (908) 481-HOPE.
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If you believe that forced marriage could be a possibility, you might try contacting the Center for Missing and Exploited Children. They may be able to offer guidance since they have probably dealt with similar circumstances before.
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[USA] Can I, a minor, give my US passport to my friend for safekeeping without my parents' permission? I am a US born minor citizen attending a public high school. Child of immigrants from a South Asian country. My parents have become increasingly conservative over the past year. There are a number of things that have happened that are warning signs for forced marriage. There hasn't been any physical violence or threats of physical violence, but I'm really fucking scared. The thing I am most afraid of is a "vacation" or a permanent move back to my parents' home country for some stupid reason like "you're too Westernized" for wearing a pair of fucking shorts. I currently have my passport with me. I just want to take my passport and give it to someone else I know and trust. Can I do that without my parents' permission and knowledge?
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Yes, that is a good move. Also please contact Unchained At Last, an organization that helps people escape child marriages and forced marriages. Their number is (908) 481-HOPE.
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US Citizenship and Immigration Services offers this page regarding Forced Marriages, including links for confidential help: https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/forced-marriage Please contact an adult that has power to help, and not just rely on a young friend.
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[USA] Can I, a minor, give my US passport to my friend for safekeeping without my parents' permission? I am a US born minor citizen attending a public high school. Child of immigrants from a South Asian country. My parents have become increasingly conservative over the past year. There are a number of things that have happened that are warning signs for forced marriage. There hasn't been any physical violence or threats of physical violence, but I'm really fucking scared. The thing I am most afraid of is a "vacation" or a permanent move back to my parents' home country for some stupid reason like "you're too Westernized" for wearing a pair of fucking shorts. I currently have my passport with me. I just want to take my passport and give it to someone else I know and trust. Can I do that without my parents' permission and knowledge?
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Hi OP. 1) yes it’s legal to give your passport to someone for safekeeping 2) no, that won’t stop your parents from being able to obtain a new one for you. 3) yes, you can do what many comments say if you get taken to an airport. Slip a note, quietly tell someone, etc. I highly advise against pitching a fit and screaming because a huge thing I haven’t seen any comments address is *what happens when you leave the airport.* If something gets as far as taking you to the airport, I suggest telling someone or slipping a note and being fully, 100% open with it to them. Tell them you’re scared. Tell them you think you’re being trafficked. Tell them this is against your will. Just screaming and pitching a fit means you go home with two very angry parents. Telling TSA or airport security that there’s possible human trafficking ensures you don’t go home with them, at least that day. Overall, stay safe.
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If you believe that forced marriage could be a possibility, you might try contacting the Center for Missing and Exploited Children. They may be able to offer guidance since they have probably dealt with similar circumstances before.
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[USA] Can I, a minor, give my US passport to my friend for safekeeping without my parents' permission? I am a US born minor citizen attending a public high school. Child of immigrants from a South Asian country. My parents have become increasingly conservative over the past year. There are a number of things that have happened that are warning signs for forced marriage. There hasn't been any physical violence or threats of physical violence, but I'm really fucking scared. The thing I am most afraid of is a "vacation" or a permanent move back to my parents' home country for some stupid reason like "you're too Westernized" for wearing a pair of fucking shorts. I currently have my passport with me. I just want to take my passport and give it to someone else I know and trust. Can I do that without my parents' permission and knowledge?
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Hi OP. 1) yes it’s legal to give your passport to someone for safekeeping 2) no, that won’t stop your parents from being able to obtain a new one for you. 3) yes, you can do what many comments say if you get taken to an airport. Slip a note, quietly tell someone, etc. I highly advise against pitching a fit and screaming because a huge thing I haven’t seen any comments address is *what happens when you leave the airport.* If something gets as far as taking you to the airport, I suggest telling someone or slipping a note and being fully, 100% open with it to them. Tell them you’re scared. Tell them you think you’re being trafficked. Tell them this is against your will. Just screaming and pitching a fit means you go home with two very angry parents. Telling TSA or airport security that there’s possible human trafficking ensures you don’t go home with them, at least that day. Overall, stay safe.
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US Citizenship and Immigration Services offers this page regarding Forced Marriages, including links for confidential help: https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/forced-marriage Please contact an adult that has power to help, and not just rely on a young friend.
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[USA] Can I, a minor, give my US passport to my friend for safekeeping without my parents' permission? I am a US born minor citizen attending a public high school. Child of immigrants from a South Asian country. My parents have become increasingly conservative over the past year. There are a number of things that have happened that are warning signs for forced marriage. There hasn't been any physical violence or threats of physical violence, but I'm really fucking scared. The thing I am most afraid of is a "vacation" or a permanent move back to my parents' home country for some stupid reason like "you're too Westernized" for wearing a pair of fucking shorts. I currently have my passport with me. I just want to take my passport and give it to someone else I know and trust. Can I do that without my parents' permission and knowledge?
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Speak to trusted adults, school teachers would be a good one as they'll have training and know the right people to talk to. Tell every trusted adults you can about your worries
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I am not a lawyer. Document everything you believe is a warning sign for a forced marriage. If they are specific to your family’s culture, and may seem confusing to others, write that down as well, as well as significance. Save a digital copy somewhere discreet, and have a friend save a copy. If you are taken to an airport, put a metal spoon in your pocket, or even in your underwear, and it should set off the metal detector. This is a common method trafficking victims have used to alert authorities. When you are brought aside by TSA, tell them you do not wish to board the plane, and fear your parents might be attempting to force you into a marriage. There is a chance your family will act as though you’ve betrayed them. Remember that forcing your child into a marriage is a much worse betrayal than disobeying a parent.
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Being harassed by the family and pastor of a man who broke into my home (Florida) Six years ago, a man broke into my home with a weapon. Fearing for the safety of my wife and myself, I did arm myself in retaliation. That man did not walk out of my home. Soon after the incident, I was called incredibly sensitive things by his family and accused of a major crime by his family and pastor - who called for justice. The investigation (bolstered by my home security system footage) quickly proved I was in the right for protecting myself. Still, his family and friends would tag me in social media posts demanding that justice be served. Despite blocking everyone I could, and even deleting specific social media platforms, earlier this year I was contacted by another pastor. This pastor tagged me on LinkedIn, Facebook, and Twitter - telling me that I needed to talk to the person's family and give them closure. I never responded, only blocked him and moved on. The same pastor reached out to me again through his church's official social media pages. I visited an attorney and we responded via legal letter, asking for all contact to end. This got out to the person's family and friends who have accused me of wanting to sue the church and the family for monetary damages - which is not true. I maintain a LinkedIn profile but that is now it. My family (parents and siblings) have continued to be tagged, shared posts with me where my photo is being shared by the person's family - falsely warning others that I am all sorts of slanderous things. I'm trying not to be an asshole here - I genuinely wish to be left alone. What other options should I explore? I never met or knew of this person or his family before he literally forced his way into my life. I do not wish to speak to them, or to a pastor, mediator, etc. I have had officers approach me (in plain clothes) when I'm grocery shopping, filling my gas tank, etc. and tell me not to worry - but it has to stop.
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What slanderous things are being said?
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Not a lawyer, but it sounds like you have a solid foundation for a harassment suit and possibly libel.
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Being harassed by the family and pastor of a man who broke into my home (Florida) Six years ago, a man broke into my home with a weapon. Fearing for the safety of my wife and myself, I did arm myself in retaliation. That man did not walk out of my home. Soon after the incident, I was called incredibly sensitive things by his family and accused of a major crime by his family and pastor - who called for justice. The investigation (bolstered by my home security system footage) quickly proved I was in the right for protecting myself. Still, his family and friends would tag me in social media posts demanding that justice be served. Despite blocking everyone I could, and even deleting specific social media platforms, earlier this year I was contacted by another pastor. This pastor tagged me on LinkedIn, Facebook, and Twitter - telling me that I needed to talk to the person's family and give them closure. I never responded, only blocked him and moved on. The same pastor reached out to me again through his church's official social media pages. I visited an attorney and we responded via legal letter, asking for all contact to end. This got out to the person's family and friends who have accused me of wanting to sue the church and the family for monetary damages - which is not true. I maintain a LinkedIn profile but that is now it. My family (parents and siblings) have continued to be tagged, shared posts with me where my photo is being shared by the person's family - falsely warning others that I am all sorts of slanderous things. I'm trying not to be an asshole here - I genuinely wish to be left alone. What other options should I explore? I never met or knew of this person or his family before he literally forced his way into my life. I do not wish to speak to them, or to a pastor, mediator, etc. I have had officers approach me (in plain clothes) when I'm grocery shopping, filling my gas tank, etc. and tell me not to worry - but it has to stop.
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It sounds like your lawyer sent a cease and desist letter, only for them to ignore it. I assume you have a good amount of the contact from these people documented before then, so document the additional contact since that letter was sent and consider proceeding with a harassment lawsuit. At this point you're going to need a court order to make them stop, because it seems they will not stop on their own.
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I am not a lawyer. What you want is very clear, you want to be left alone. However they are not honoring that, and keep harassing you. As much as you do not like this, it probably will end up going to court, for a judge to decide. Due to the nature of their various posts, you should be keeping and printing out all messages, and screen shotting the posts as evidence, and then I would say go back in and talk to the attorney. Since they are continuing on with the statements and the harassment, it may be time, as much as you do not want to, to take this to court and bring them infront of a judge. While you are not suing the church, or bringing that into court, it does not exclude you from doing such to the pastor and the victims family. So bring all of that to the lawyer and see what he things, it is at the very least harassment, at the worse libel and slander on their part, as it is being done maliciously and it is showing that they are using false statements against them. I think that once they are served and have to get their lawyers involved, the primary thing you want is that they pay for the legal fees and court costs, and to just leave you alone, no more posts on facebook, no more calls, no more contact. Chances are, even if the family of the deceased, may not like it, if they are smart they will listen to what the attorney is telling them and will cease, and the pastor will want to settle, as this could ruin him and the church he is in charge of. Make it clear, you have nothing against the church, but the pastor.
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Being harassed by the family and pastor of a man who broke into my home (Florida) Six years ago, a man broke into my home with a weapon. Fearing for the safety of my wife and myself, I did arm myself in retaliation. That man did not walk out of my home. Soon after the incident, I was called incredibly sensitive things by his family and accused of a major crime by his family and pastor - who called for justice. The investigation (bolstered by my home security system footage) quickly proved I was in the right for protecting myself. Still, his family and friends would tag me in social media posts demanding that justice be served. Despite blocking everyone I could, and even deleting specific social media platforms, earlier this year I was contacted by another pastor. This pastor tagged me on LinkedIn, Facebook, and Twitter - telling me that I needed to talk to the person's family and give them closure. I never responded, only blocked him and moved on. The same pastor reached out to me again through his church's official social media pages. I visited an attorney and we responded via legal letter, asking for all contact to end. This got out to the person's family and friends who have accused me of wanting to sue the church and the family for monetary damages - which is not true. I maintain a LinkedIn profile but that is now it. My family (parents and siblings) have continued to be tagged, shared posts with me where my photo is being shared by the person's family - falsely warning others that I am all sorts of slanderous things. I'm trying not to be an asshole here - I genuinely wish to be left alone. What other options should I explore? I never met or knew of this person or his family before he literally forced his way into my life. I do not wish to speak to them, or to a pastor, mediator, etc. I have had officers approach me (in plain clothes) when I'm grocery shopping, filling my gas tank, etc. and tell me not to worry - but it has to stop.
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What slanderous things are being said?
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It sounds like your lawyer sent a cease and desist letter, only for them to ignore it. I assume you have a good amount of the contact from these people documented before then, so document the additional contact since that letter was sent and consider proceeding with a harassment lawsuit. At this point you're going to need a court order to make them stop, because it seems they will not stop on their own.
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Being harassed by the family and pastor of a man who broke into my home (Florida) Six years ago, a man broke into my home with a weapon. Fearing for the safety of my wife and myself, I did arm myself in retaliation. That man did not walk out of my home. Soon after the incident, I was called incredibly sensitive things by his family and accused of a major crime by his family and pastor - who called for justice. The investigation (bolstered by my home security system footage) quickly proved I was in the right for protecting myself. Still, his family and friends would tag me in social media posts demanding that justice be served. Despite blocking everyone I could, and even deleting specific social media platforms, earlier this year I was contacted by another pastor. This pastor tagged me on LinkedIn, Facebook, and Twitter - telling me that I needed to talk to the person's family and give them closure. I never responded, only blocked him and moved on. The same pastor reached out to me again through his church's official social media pages. I visited an attorney and we responded via legal letter, asking for all contact to end. This got out to the person's family and friends who have accused me of wanting to sue the church and the family for monetary damages - which is not true. I maintain a LinkedIn profile but that is now it. My family (parents and siblings) have continued to be tagged, shared posts with me where my photo is being shared by the person's family - falsely warning others that I am all sorts of slanderous things. I'm trying not to be an asshole here - I genuinely wish to be left alone. What other options should I explore? I never met or knew of this person or his family before he literally forced his way into my life. I do not wish to speak to them, or to a pastor, mediator, etc. I have had officers approach me (in plain clothes) when I'm grocery shopping, filling my gas tank, etc. and tell me not to worry - but it has to stop.
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It sounds like your lawyer sent a cease and desist letter, only for them to ignore it. I assume you have a good amount of the contact from these people documented before then, so document the additional contact since that letter was sent and consider proceeding with a harassment lawsuit. At this point you're going to need a court order to make them stop, because it seems they will not stop on their own.
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The easiest thing to do is probably to move far away from where the shooting happened so that perhaps you can become out-of-sight out-of-mind to some degree with the passage of time. Then, I think you’re going to need to hire an attorney and a private investigator. The attorney can instruct the private investigator to search for truly defamatory comments from the family and pastors and retain such comments in a way that’s admissible in court. Then the attorney can sue them for it. I know you don’t want to do this. I also know that it’ll cost you a lot of money, especially if the people who might be defaming you are not collectible. But it would help your cause to send a strong and certain message to the community that defamation against you will not be tolerated, and if anyone tries it, they’re going to be wrapped up in a time-consuming and costly legal dispute. Finally, it might be worth considering the hiring of a social media marketing firm to oppose negative posts about you. Your lawyer should work with them on a number of pre-approved, canned responses (so that the firm doesn’t defame anyone) that simply present the true facts of the situation. Over time, and with the clear repetition of the facts, I think most people will understand why you are not to blame for the shooting. Good luck!
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Being harassed by the family and pastor of a man who broke into my home (Florida) Six years ago, a man broke into my home with a weapon. Fearing for the safety of my wife and myself, I did arm myself in retaliation. That man did not walk out of my home. Soon after the incident, I was called incredibly sensitive things by his family and accused of a major crime by his family and pastor - who called for justice. The investigation (bolstered by my home security system footage) quickly proved I was in the right for protecting myself. Still, his family and friends would tag me in social media posts demanding that justice be served. Despite blocking everyone I could, and even deleting specific social media platforms, earlier this year I was contacted by another pastor. This pastor tagged me on LinkedIn, Facebook, and Twitter - telling me that I needed to talk to the person's family and give them closure. I never responded, only blocked him and moved on. The same pastor reached out to me again through his church's official social media pages. I visited an attorney and we responded via legal letter, asking for all contact to end. This got out to the person's family and friends who have accused me of wanting to sue the church and the family for monetary damages - which is not true. I maintain a LinkedIn profile but that is now it. My family (parents and siblings) have continued to be tagged, shared posts with me where my photo is being shared by the person's family - falsely warning others that I am all sorts of slanderous things. I'm trying not to be an asshole here - I genuinely wish to be left alone. What other options should I explore? I never met or knew of this person or his family before he literally forced his way into my life. I do not wish to speak to them, or to a pastor, mediator, etc. I have had officers approach me (in plain clothes) when I'm grocery shopping, filling my gas tank, etc. and tell me not to worry - but it has to stop.
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immb8pd
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What slanderous things are being said?
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I am not a lawyer. What you want is very clear, you want to be left alone. However they are not honoring that, and keep harassing you. As much as you do not like this, it probably will end up going to court, for a judge to decide. Due to the nature of their various posts, you should be keeping and printing out all messages, and screen shotting the posts as evidence, and then I would say go back in and talk to the attorney. Since they are continuing on with the statements and the harassment, it may be time, as much as you do not want to, to take this to court and bring them infront of a judge. While you are not suing the church, or bringing that into court, it does not exclude you from doing such to the pastor and the victims family. So bring all of that to the lawyer and see what he things, it is at the very least harassment, at the worse libel and slander on their part, as it is being done maliciously and it is showing that they are using false statements against them. I think that once they are served and have to get their lawyers involved, the primary thing you want is that they pay for the legal fees and court costs, and to just leave you alone, no more posts on facebook, no more calls, no more contact. Chances are, even if the family of the deceased, may not like it, if they are smart they will listen to what the attorney is telling them and will cease, and the pastor will want to settle, as this could ruin him and the church he is in charge of. Make it clear, you have nothing against the church, but the pastor.
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Being harassed by the family and pastor of a man who broke into my home (Florida) Six years ago, a man broke into my home with a weapon. Fearing for the safety of my wife and myself, I did arm myself in retaliation. That man did not walk out of my home. Soon after the incident, I was called incredibly sensitive things by his family and accused of a major crime by his family and pastor - who called for justice. The investigation (bolstered by my home security system footage) quickly proved I was in the right for protecting myself. Still, his family and friends would tag me in social media posts demanding that justice be served. Despite blocking everyone I could, and even deleting specific social media platforms, earlier this year I was contacted by another pastor. This pastor tagged me on LinkedIn, Facebook, and Twitter - telling me that I needed to talk to the person's family and give them closure. I never responded, only blocked him and moved on. The same pastor reached out to me again through his church's official social media pages. I visited an attorney and we responded via legal letter, asking for all contact to end. This got out to the person's family and friends who have accused me of wanting to sue the church and the family for monetary damages - which is not true. I maintain a LinkedIn profile but that is now it. My family (parents and siblings) have continued to be tagged, shared posts with me where my photo is being shared by the person's family - falsely warning others that I am all sorts of slanderous things. I'm trying not to be an asshole here - I genuinely wish to be left alone. What other options should I explore? I never met or knew of this person or his family before he literally forced his way into my life. I do not wish to speak to them, or to a pastor, mediator, etc. I have had officers approach me (in plain clothes) when I'm grocery shopping, filling my gas tank, etc. and tell me not to worry - but it has to stop.
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immb8pd
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The easiest thing to do is probably to move far away from where the shooting happened so that perhaps you can become out-of-sight out-of-mind to some degree with the passage of time. Then, I think you’re going to need to hire an attorney and a private investigator. The attorney can instruct the private investigator to search for truly defamatory comments from the family and pastors and retain such comments in a way that’s admissible in court. Then the attorney can sue them for it. I know you don’t want to do this. I also know that it’ll cost you a lot of money, especially if the people who might be defaming you are not collectible. But it would help your cause to send a strong and certain message to the community that defamation against you will not be tolerated, and if anyone tries it, they’re going to be wrapped up in a time-consuming and costly legal dispute. Finally, it might be worth considering the hiring of a social media marketing firm to oppose negative posts about you. Your lawyer should work with them on a number of pre-approved, canned responses (so that the firm doesn’t defame anyone) that simply present the true facts of the situation. Over time, and with the clear repetition of the facts, I think most people will understand why you are not to blame for the shooting. Good luck!
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I am not a lawyer. What you want is very clear, you want to be left alone. However they are not honoring that, and keep harassing you. As much as you do not like this, it probably will end up going to court, for a judge to decide. Due to the nature of their various posts, you should be keeping and printing out all messages, and screen shotting the posts as evidence, and then I would say go back in and talk to the attorney. Since they are continuing on with the statements and the harassment, it may be time, as much as you do not want to, to take this to court and bring them infront of a judge. While you are not suing the church, or bringing that into court, it does not exclude you from doing such to the pastor and the victims family. So bring all of that to the lawyer and see what he things, it is at the very least harassment, at the worse libel and slander on their part, as it is being done maliciously and it is showing that they are using false statements against them. I think that once they are served and have to get their lawyers involved, the primary thing you want is that they pay for the legal fees and court costs, and to just leave you alone, no more posts on facebook, no more calls, no more contact. Chances are, even if the family of the deceased, may not like it, if they are smart they will listen to what the attorney is telling them and will cease, and the pastor will want to settle, as this could ruin him and the church he is in charge of. Make it clear, you have nothing against the church, but the pastor.
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Being harassed by the family and pastor of a man who broke into my home (Florida) Six years ago, a man broke into my home with a weapon. Fearing for the safety of my wife and myself, I did arm myself in retaliation. That man did not walk out of my home. Soon after the incident, I was called incredibly sensitive things by his family and accused of a major crime by his family and pastor - who called for justice. The investigation (bolstered by my home security system footage) quickly proved I was in the right for protecting myself. Still, his family and friends would tag me in social media posts demanding that justice be served. Despite blocking everyone I could, and even deleting specific social media platforms, earlier this year I was contacted by another pastor. This pastor tagged me on LinkedIn, Facebook, and Twitter - telling me that I needed to talk to the person's family and give them closure. I never responded, only blocked him and moved on. The same pastor reached out to me again through his church's official social media pages. I visited an attorney and we responded via legal letter, asking for all contact to end. This got out to the person's family and friends who have accused me of wanting to sue the church and the family for monetary damages - which is not true. I maintain a LinkedIn profile but that is now it. My family (parents and siblings) have continued to be tagged, shared posts with me where my photo is being shared by the person's family - falsely warning others that I am all sorts of slanderous things. I'm trying not to be an asshole here - I genuinely wish to be left alone. What other options should I explore? I never met or knew of this person or his family before he literally forced his way into my life. I do not wish to speak to them, or to a pastor, mediator, etc. I have had officers approach me (in plain clothes) when I'm grocery shopping, filling my gas tank, etc. and tell me not to worry - but it has to stop.
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Attorney here, though not from Florida. Yes, you may very well have a lawsuit for libel or the like, but before you go too far down that rabbit hole it may be worth considering what your goals are. If you are looking to get them to stop talking about you or to be vindicated, neither of those things will happen, more likely than not. It may even make things worse. People don't take a family member dying by someone else's hand, no matter how totally justified it was, very well, and they take getting sued or the possibility of being sued by that someone else even worse(as you have seen). If you're looking for money, that's dependent on who the defendant(s) would be.collecting a judgment is difficult when the defendant isn't a decently sized business or isn't insured. That's after you get past the inherent difficulty of proving damages for libel/slander. Personally, I'd be most concerned about having to be examined under oath in a case like this. At best, it would throw a lot of gasoline on the family's fire. At worst, there ends up being some discrepancy in your testimony that opens you up to a wrongful death suit or additional police scrutiny. How long ago did this happen?
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Another approach might be to seek a civil order of protection (restraining order) against the offenders, to prevent them from harassing you, directly or indirectly. It should be easy for you to document the abuse you’ve suffered at their hand. That should have an immediate effect, as they would face potential arrest for violating it.
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Being harassed by the family and pastor of a man who broke into my home (Florida) Six years ago, a man broke into my home with a weapon. Fearing for the safety of my wife and myself, I did arm myself in retaliation. That man did not walk out of my home. Soon after the incident, I was called incredibly sensitive things by his family and accused of a major crime by his family and pastor - who called for justice. The investigation (bolstered by my home security system footage) quickly proved I was in the right for protecting myself. Still, his family and friends would tag me in social media posts demanding that justice be served. Despite blocking everyone I could, and even deleting specific social media platforms, earlier this year I was contacted by another pastor. This pastor tagged me on LinkedIn, Facebook, and Twitter - telling me that I needed to talk to the person's family and give them closure. I never responded, only blocked him and moved on. The same pastor reached out to me again through his church's official social media pages. I visited an attorney and we responded via legal letter, asking for all contact to end. This got out to the person's family and friends who have accused me of wanting to sue the church and the family for monetary damages - which is not true. I maintain a LinkedIn profile but that is now it. My family (parents and siblings) have continued to be tagged, shared posts with me where my photo is being shared by the person's family - falsely warning others that I am all sorts of slanderous things. I'm trying not to be an asshole here - I genuinely wish to be left alone. What other options should I explore? I never met or knew of this person or his family before he literally forced his way into my life. I do not wish to speak to them, or to a pastor, mediator, etc. I have had officers approach me (in plain clothes) when I'm grocery shopping, filling my gas tank, etc. and tell me not to worry - but it has to stop.
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imlu71u
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Another approach might be to seek a civil order of protection (restraining order) against the offenders, to prevent them from harassing you, directly or indirectly. It should be easy for you to document the abuse you’ve suffered at their hand. That should have an immediate effect, as they would face potential arrest for violating it.
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The easiest thing to do is probably to move far away from where the shooting happened so that perhaps you can become out-of-sight out-of-mind to some degree with the passage of time. Then, I think you’re going to need to hire an attorney and a private investigator. The attorney can instruct the private investigator to search for truly defamatory comments from the family and pastors and retain such comments in a way that’s admissible in court. Then the attorney can sue them for it. I know you don’t want to do this. I also know that it’ll cost you a lot of money, especially if the people who might be defaming you are not collectible. But it would help your cause to send a strong and certain message to the community that defamation against you will not be tolerated, and if anyone tries it, they’re going to be wrapped up in a time-consuming and costly legal dispute. Finally, it might be worth considering the hiring of a social media marketing firm to oppose negative posts about you. Your lawyer should work with them on a number of pre-approved, canned responses (so that the firm doesn’t defame anyone) that simply present the true facts of the situation. Over time, and with the clear repetition of the facts, I think most people will understand why you are not to blame for the shooting. Good luck!
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Being harassed by the family and pastor of a man who broke into my home (Florida) Six years ago, a man broke into my home with a weapon. Fearing for the safety of my wife and myself, I did arm myself in retaliation. That man did not walk out of my home. Soon after the incident, I was called incredibly sensitive things by his family and accused of a major crime by his family and pastor - who called for justice. The investigation (bolstered by my home security system footage) quickly proved I was in the right for protecting myself. Still, his family and friends would tag me in social media posts demanding that justice be served. Despite blocking everyone I could, and even deleting specific social media platforms, earlier this year I was contacted by another pastor. This pastor tagged me on LinkedIn, Facebook, and Twitter - telling me that I needed to talk to the person's family and give them closure. I never responded, only blocked him and moved on. The same pastor reached out to me again through his church's official social media pages. I visited an attorney and we responded via legal letter, asking for all contact to end. This got out to the person's family and friends who have accused me of wanting to sue the church and the family for monetary damages - which is not true. I maintain a LinkedIn profile but that is now it. My family (parents and siblings) have continued to be tagged, shared posts with me where my photo is being shared by the person's family - falsely warning others that I am all sorts of slanderous things. I'm trying not to be an asshole here - I genuinely wish to be left alone. What other options should I explore? I never met or knew of this person or his family before he literally forced his way into my life. I do not wish to speak to them, or to a pastor, mediator, etc. I have had officers approach me (in plain clothes) when I'm grocery shopping, filling my gas tank, etc. and tell me not to worry - but it has to stop.
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imnmbin
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Attorney here, though not from Florida. Yes, you may very well have a lawsuit for libel or the like, but before you go too far down that rabbit hole it may be worth considering what your goals are. If you are looking to get them to stop talking about you or to be vindicated, neither of those things will happen, more likely than not. It may even make things worse. People don't take a family member dying by someone else's hand, no matter how totally justified it was, very well, and they take getting sued or the possibility of being sued by that someone else even worse(as you have seen). If you're looking for money, that's dependent on who the defendant(s) would be.collecting a judgment is difficult when the defendant isn't a decently sized business or isn't insured. That's after you get past the inherent difficulty of proving damages for libel/slander. Personally, I'd be most concerned about having to be examined under oath in a case like this. At best, it would throw a lot of gasoline on the family's fire. At worst, there ends up being some discrepancy in your testimony that opens you up to a wrongful death suit or additional police scrutiny. How long ago did this happen?
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I would definitely suggest reaching out to a defamation lawyer that practices in your area. The reason is that the lawyer can help you with a defamation suit, but could also recommend options short of defamation that are tailored to Florida law. Another option is reach out to the prosecutor that handled the case and ask their advice. Some options to ask about: * Cease and desist fundraising based on libel * Protection/harassment orders (which could be handled via the criminal side) * Investigating whether the church has assets that make litigation worth it (since this pastor stupidly just made their church a defendant) * Investigating whether the pastor is personally benefiting from this fundraising (which could be used to drive a wedge between pastor and church) * Help with takedown requests on fundraising sites, reports to social media to have accounts limited/banned for harassment, etc. In short, you probably aren't going to stop it via direct litigation. But if you catch the pastor skimming off the top, for example, or you can credibly threaten the church with "bankrupt your church" level litigation, you might get them to back off. The family and pastor probably can't afford to pay. But a large enough church can, and the **pastor speaks for the church**.
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Being harassed by the family and pastor of a man who broke into my home (Florida) Six years ago, a man broke into my home with a weapon. Fearing for the safety of my wife and myself, I did arm myself in retaliation. That man did not walk out of my home. Soon after the incident, I was called incredibly sensitive things by his family and accused of a major crime by his family and pastor - who called for justice. The investigation (bolstered by my home security system footage) quickly proved I was in the right for protecting myself. Still, his family and friends would tag me in social media posts demanding that justice be served. Despite blocking everyone I could, and even deleting specific social media platforms, earlier this year I was contacted by another pastor. This pastor tagged me on LinkedIn, Facebook, and Twitter - telling me that I needed to talk to the person's family and give them closure. I never responded, only blocked him and moved on. The same pastor reached out to me again through his church's official social media pages. I visited an attorney and we responded via legal letter, asking for all contact to end. This got out to the person's family and friends who have accused me of wanting to sue the church and the family for monetary damages - which is not true. I maintain a LinkedIn profile but that is now it. My family (parents and siblings) have continued to be tagged, shared posts with me where my photo is being shared by the person's family - falsely warning others that I am all sorts of slanderous things. I'm trying not to be an asshole here - I genuinely wish to be left alone. What other options should I explore? I never met or knew of this person or his family before he literally forced his way into my life. I do not wish to speak to them, or to a pastor, mediator, etc. I have had officers approach me (in plain clothes) when I'm grocery shopping, filling my gas tank, etc. and tell me not to worry - but it has to stop.
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imlu71u
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I would definitely suggest reaching out to a defamation lawyer that practices in your area. The reason is that the lawyer can help you with a defamation suit, but could also recommend options short of defamation that are tailored to Florida law. Another option is reach out to the prosecutor that handled the case and ask their advice. Some options to ask about: * Cease and desist fundraising based on libel * Protection/harassment orders (which could be handled via the criminal side) * Investigating whether the church has assets that make litigation worth it (since this pastor stupidly just made their church a defendant) * Investigating whether the pastor is personally benefiting from this fundraising (which could be used to drive a wedge between pastor and church) * Help with takedown requests on fundraising sites, reports to social media to have accounts limited/banned for harassment, etc. In short, you probably aren't going to stop it via direct litigation. But if you catch the pastor skimming off the top, for example, or you can credibly threaten the church with "bankrupt your church" level litigation, you might get them to back off. The family and pastor probably can't afford to pay. But a large enough church can, and the **pastor speaks for the church**.
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The easiest thing to do is probably to move far away from where the shooting happened so that perhaps you can become out-of-sight out-of-mind to some degree with the passage of time. Then, I think you’re going to need to hire an attorney and a private investigator. The attorney can instruct the private investigator to search for truly defamatory comments from the family and pastors and retain such comments in a way that’s admissible in court. Then the attorney can sue them for it. I know you don’t want to do this. I also know that it’ll cost you a lot of money, especially if the people who might be defaming you are not collectible. But it would help your cause to send a strong and certain message to the community that defamation against you will not be tolerated, and if anyone tries it, they’re going to be wrapped up in a time-consuming and costly legal dispute. Finally, it might be worth considering the hiring of a social media marketing firm to oppose negative posts about you. Your lawyer should work with them on a number of pre-approved, canned responses (so that the firm doesn’t defame anyone) that simply present the true facts of the situation. Over time, and with the clear repetition of the facts, I think most people will understand why you are not to blame for the shooting. Good luck!
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Being harassed by the family and pastor of a man who broke into my home (Florida) Six years ago, a man broke into my home with a weapon. Fearing for the safety of my wife and myself, I did arm myself in retaliation. That man did not walk out of my home. Soon after the incident, I was called incredibly sensitive things by his family and accused of a major crime by his family and pastor - who called for justice. The investigation (bolstered by my home security system footage) quickly proved I was in the right for protecting myself. Still, his family and friends would tag me in social media posts demanding that justice be served. Despite blocking everyone I could, and even deleting specific social media platforms, earlier this year I was contacted by another pastor. This pastor tagged me on LinkedIn, Facebook, and Twitter - telling me that I needed to talk to the person's family and give them closure. I never responded, only blocked him and moved on. The same pastor reached out to me again through his church's official social media pages. I visited an attorney and we responded via legal letter, asking for all contact to end. This got out to the person's family and friends who have accused me of wanting to sue the church and the family for monetary damages - which is not true. I maintain a LinkedIn profile but that is now it. My family (parents and siblings) have continued to be tagged, shared posts with me where my photo is being shared by the person's family - falsely warning others that I am all sorts of slanderous things. I'm trying not to be an asshole here - I genuinely wish to be left alone. What other options should I explore? I never met or knew of this person or his family before he literally forced his way into my life. I do not wish to speak to them, or to a pastor, mediator, etc. I have had officers approach me (in plain clothes) when I'm grocery shopping, filling my gas tank, etc. and tell me not to worry - but it has to stop.
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imnmbin
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I’m an attorney in another state, mostly plaintiff side. I don’t know FL law, but I really agree with the comment about opening a can of worms if you decide to sue for defamation. Litigation is very invasive, and it will keep this situation amped up for possibly years. I don’t know what the answer is to making them go away, but all the Not a lawyer on here saying to sue probably do not have a lot of experience with civil litigation. Also, look into the SOL for a wrongful death claim. Just because something isn’t murder doesn’t mean it’s not a tort. In any event, I always warn my prospective plaintiffs about how ugly it often gets and how much of their personal details will be given to the other side.
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I would definitely suggest reaching out to a defamation lawyer that practices in your area. The reason is that the lawyer can help you with a defamation suit, but could also recommend options short of defamation that are tailored to Florida law. Another option is reach out to the prosecutor that handled the case and ask their advice. Some options to ask about: * Cease and desist fundraising based on libel * Protection/harassment orders (which could be handled via the criminal side) * Investigating whether the church has assets that make litigation worth it (since this pastor stupidly just made their church a defendant) * Investigating whether the pastor is personally benefiting from this fundraising (which could be used to drive a wedge between pastor and church) * Help with takedown requests on fundraising sites, reports to social media to have accounts limited/banned for harassment, etc. In short, you probably aren't going to stop it via direct litigation. But if you catch the pastor skimming off the top, for example, or you can credibly threaten the church with "bankrupt your church" level litigation, you might get them to back off. The family and pastor probably can't afford to pay. But a large enough church can, and the **pastor speaks for the church**.
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Being harassed by the family and pastor of a man who broke into my home (Florida) Six years ago, a man broke into my home with a weapon. Fearing for the safety of my wife and myself, I did arm myself in retaliation. That man did not walk out of my home. Soon after the incident, I was called incredibly sensitive things by his family and accused of a major crime by his family and pastor - who called for justice. The investigation (bolstered by my home security system footage) quickly proved I was in the right for protecting myself. Still, his family and friends would tag me in social media posts demanding that justice be served. Despite blocking everyone I could, and even deleting specific social media platforms, earlier this year I was contacted by another pastor. This pastor tagged me on LinkedIn, Facebook, and Twitter - telling me that I needed to talk to the person's family and give them closure. I never responded, only blocked him and moved on. The same pastor reached out to me again through his church's official social media pages. I visited an attorney and we responded via legal letter, asking for all contact to end. This got out to the person's family and friends who have accused me of wanting to sue the church and the family for monetary damages - which is not true. I maintain a LinkedIn profile but that is now it. My family (parents and siblings) have continued to be tagged, shared posts with me where my photo is being shared by the person's family - falsely warning others that I am all sorts of slanderous things. I'm trying not to be an asshole here - I genuinely wish to be left alone. What other options should I explore? I never met or knew of this person or his family before he literally forced his way into my life. I do not wish to speak to them, or to a pastor, mediator, etc. I have had officers approach me (in plain clothes) when I'm grocery shopping, filling my gas tank, etc. and tell me not to worry - but it has to stop.
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immdz4n
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The easiest thing to do is probably to move far away from where the shooting happened so that perhaps you can become out-of-sight out-of-mind to some degree with the passage of time. Then, I think you’re going to need to hire an attorney and a private investigator. The attorney can instruct the private investigator to search for truly defamatory comments from the family and pastors and retain such comments in a way that’s admissible in court. Then the attorney can sue them for it. I know you don’t want to do this. I also know that it’ll cost you a lot of money, especially if the people who might be defaming you are not collectible. But it would help your cause to send a strong and certain message to the community that defamation against you will not be tolerated, and if anyone tries it, they’re going to be wrapped up in a time-consuming and costly legal dispute. Finally, it might be worth considering the hiring of a social media marketing firm to oppose negative posts about you. Your lawyer should work with them on a number of pre-approved, canned responses (so that the firm doesn’t defame anyone) that simply present the true facts of the situation. Over time, and with the clear repetition of the facts, I think most people will understand why you are not to blame for the shooting. Good luck!
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Attorney here, though not from Florida. Yes, you may very well have a lawsuit for libel or the like, but before you go too far down that rabbit hole it may be worth considering what your goals are. If you are looking to get them to stop talking about you or to be vindicated, neither of those things will happen, more likely than not. It may even make things worse. People don't take a family member dying by someone else's hand, no matter how totally justified it was, very well, and they take getting sued or the possibility of being sued by that someone else even worse(as you have seen). If you're looking for money, that's dependent on who the defendant(s) would be.collecting a judgment is difficult when the defendant isn't a decently sized business or isn't insured. That's after you get past the inherent difficulty of proving damages for libel/slander. Personally, I'd be most concerned about having to be examined under oath in a case like this. At best, it would throw a lot of gasoline on the family's fire. At worst, there ends up being some discrepancy in your testimony that opens you up to a wrongful death suit or additional police scrutiny. How long ago did this happen?
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My child had her backpack stolen at school and items stolen, broken and damaged. They broke into her diary and posted pages on instagram. I am looking into legal actions I can take. Any advice is welcome. A little over two weeks ago, two boys at my daughters middle school stole her backpack. The tore up pages in my book $37, broke my measuring tape to the point that the school threw it away $13, tore a big hole in her stuffed animal that she was carrying in her backpack $15, and stole her customized code locked diary worth $39. They also stole $5 out of her wallet and an unknown quantity of her pens and pencils. They were caught on camera stealing her backpack. They claim to have given the diary to a third party and thus far it has not been recovered. A week after the incident 10 pictures went up on a middle school gossip site of my daughters diary. Students started naming her so everyone knows it’s hers. We have been in contact with the school since before this started due to another bullying issue. They have at this point said they cannot do anything. We are transferring her schools next year. But she has been only going to school to finish her testing and then home. After her tests are done she is done for the year. My question is what are my legal options here?
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Unfortunately, the decisions of a school can be very subjective and dependent upon the principal. The actions of one school can vary completely from another, and it seems that your school is unwilling to do anything more. I would consider escalating this to the school board first, email superintendants etc. If they are unwilling to act, then yes legal measures are an option here if you want to go that route, there was theft and destruction of property. You can file a police report, but it will be up to the police whether they want to take it any further. Beyond that, your only civil repercussions are to sue for the destruction of property and emotional distress but that may accomplish very little in the end.
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My child had her backpack stolen at school and items stolen, broken and damaged. They broke into her diary and posted pages on instagram. I am looking into legal actions I can take. Any advice is welcome. A little over two weeks ago, two boys at my daughters middle school stole her backpack. The tore up pages in my book $37, broke my measuring tape to the point that the school threw it away $13, tore a big hole in her stuffed animal that she was carrying in her backpack $15, and stole her customized code locked diary worth $39. They also stole $5 out of her wallet and an unknown quantity of her pens and pencils. They were caught on camera stealing her backpack. They claim to have given the diary to a third party and thus far it has not been recovered. A week after the incident 10 pictures went up on a middle school gossip site of my daughters diary. Students started naming her so everyone knows it’s hers. We have been in contact with the school since before this started due to another bullying issue. They have at this point said they cannot do anything. We are transferring her schools next year. But she has been only going to school to finish her testing and then home. After her tests are done she is done for the year. My question is what are my legal options here?
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i8ek72y
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Here's a potentially unexpected strategy you can use: Diary pages are the intellectual property of their author (your child). You can send DMCA takedown notices to the website that's hosting them as the parent of the author. Copyright attaches automatically after a work is created, and diary pages definitely qualify for copyright protection, as much so as a book manuscript or movie script would. Displaying the works without the author's permission is copyright infringement.
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You mentioned they were caught on camera...was it the schools monitoring/security system? If so, you should report it to the police so they can get the footage, before the school tapes over it. You'll likely need this footage later should the school sweep it under the rug, or you end up seeking civil action against the boys.
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uo8fmz
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My child had her backpack stolen at school and items stolen, broken and damaged. They broke into her diary and posted pages on instagram. I am looking into legal actions I can take. Any advice is welcome. A little over two weeks ago, two boys at my daughters middle school stole her backpack. The tore up pages in my book $37, broke my measuring tape to the point that the school threw it away $13, tore a big hole in her stuffed animal that she was carrying in her backpack $15, and stole her customized code locked diary worth $39. They also stole $5 out of her wallet and an unknown quantity of her pens and pencils. They were caught on camera stealing her backpack. They claim to have given the diary to a third party and thus far it has not been recovered. A week after the incident 10 pictures went up on a middle school gossip site of my daughters diary. Students started naming her so everyone knows it’s hers. We have been in contact with the school since before this started due to another bullying issue. They have at this point said they cannot do anything. We are transferring her schools next year. But she has been only going to school to finish her testing and then home. After her tests are done she is done for the year. My question is what are my legal options here?
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i8f6pn2
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Here's a potentially unexpected strategy you can use: Diary pages are the intellectual property of their author (your child). You can send DMCA takedown notices to the website that's hosting them as the parent of the author. Copyright attaches automatically after a work is created, and diary pages definitely qualify for copyright protection, as much so as a book manuscript or movie script would. Displaying the works without the author's permission is copyright infringement.
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uo8fmz
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My child had her backpack stolen at school and items stolen, broken and damaged. They broke into her diary and posted pages on instagram. I am looking into legal actions I can take. Any advice is welcome. A little over two weeks ago, two boys at my daughters middle school stole her backpack. The tore up pages in my book $37, broke my measuring tape to the point that the school threw it away $13, tore a big hole in her stuffed animal that she was carrying in her backpack $15, and stole her customized code locked diary worth $39. They also stole $5 out of her wallet and an unknown quantity of her pens and pencils. They were caught on camera stealing her backpack. They claim to have given the diary to a third party and thus far it has not been recovered. A week after the incident 10 pictures went up on a middle school gossip site of my daughters diary. Students started naming her so everyone knows it’s hers. We have been in contact with the school since before this started due to another bullying issue. They have at this point said they cannot do anything. We are transferring her schools next year. But she has been only going to school to finish her testing and then home. After her tests are done she is done for the year. My question is what are my legal options here?
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i8f6pn2
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I’m a teacher. Here’s what I can tell you from what I’ve seen. Legally, it doesn’t actually sound like the bullying standard is being met. Bullying is consistent and ongoing. 2 incidents would not be considered bullying by most schools. I think I might use the word harassment instead of bullying when bringing it to the school admin. Also, you are going to want to contact the superintendents office and move this up the chain of command. Principals try to hide incidents like this that might reflect badly on their own job evaluations. I can tell you that most likely nothing will happen other than maybe a day suspension and parents called. I see stuff like that happen all the time. Obviously I’m not a lawyer but we’ve been told be our admin that we cannot do much about stuff posted after school unless it’s an actual safety threat. My understanding is that there are recent legal rulings that do not allow schools to take action against what students post online unless it’s a threat.
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Here's a potentially unexpected strategy you can use: Diary pages are the intellectual property of their author (your child). You can send DMCA takedown notices to the website that's hosting them as the parent of the author. Copyright attaches automatically after a work is created, and diary pages definitely qualify for copyright protection, as much so as a book manuscript or movie script would. Displaying the works without the author's permission is copyright infringement.
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uo8fmz
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My child had her backpack stolen at school and items stolen, broken and damaged. They broke into her diary and posted pages on instagram. I am looking into legal actions I can take. Any advice is welcome. A little over two weeks ago, two boys at my daughters middle school stole her backpack. The tore up pages in my book $37, broke my measuring tape to the point that the school threw it away $13, tore a big hole in her stuffed animal that she was carrying in her backpack $15, and stole her customized code locked diary worth $39. They also stole $5 out of her wallet and an unknown quantity of her pens and pencils. They were caught on camera stealing her backpack. They claim to have given the diary to a third party and thus far it has not been recovered. A week after the incident 10 pictures went up on a middle school gossip site of my daughters diary. Students started naming her so everyone knows it’s hers. We have been in contact with the school since before this started due to another bullying issue. They have at this point said they cannot do anything. We are transferring her schools next year. But she has been only going to school to finish her testing and then home. After her tests are done she is done for the year. My question is what are my legal options here?
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i8f6pn2
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Go to your County Attorney (what it's called in my state) and file charges and a police report. The school won't do anything as it makes them look bad to discipline students. I'd also file charges for the bullying. Good luck to your daughter.
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Here's a potentially unexpected strategy you can use: Diary pages are the intellectual property of their author (your child). You can send DMCA takedown notices to the website that's hosting them as the parent of the author. Copyright attaches automatically after a work is created, and diary pages definitely qualify for copyright protection, as much so as a book manuscript or movie script would. Displaying the works without the author's permission is copyright infringement.
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uo8fmz
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My child had her backpack stolen at school and items stolen, broken and damaged. They broke into her diary and posted pages on instagram. I am looking into legal actions I can take. Any advice is welcome. A little over two weeks ago, two boys at my daughters middle school stole her backpack. The tore up pages in my book $37, broke my measuring tape to the point that the school threw it away $13, tore a big hole in her stuffed animal that she was carrying in her backpack $15, and stole her customized code locked diary worth $39. They also stole $5 out of her wallet and an unknown quantity of her pens and pencils. They were caught on camera stealing her backpack. They claim to have given the diary to a third party and thus far it has not been recovered. A week after the incident 10 pictures went up on a middle school gossip site of my daughters diary. Students started naming her so everyone knows it’s hers. We have been in contact with the school since before this started due to another bullying issue. They have at this point said they cannot do anything. We are transferring her schools next year. But she has been only going to school to finish her testing and then home. After her tests are done she is done for the year. My question is what are my legal options here?
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i8ek72y
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You mentioned they were caught on camera...was it the schools monitoring/security system? If so, you should report it to the police so they can get the footage, before the school tapes over it. You'll likely need this footage later should the school sweep it under the rug, or you end up seeking civil action against the boys.
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My child had her backpack stolen at school and items stolen, broken and damaged. They broke into her diary and posted pages on instagram. I am looking into legal actions I can take. Any advice is welcome. A little over two weeks ago, two boys at my daughters middle school stole her backpack. The tore up pages in my book $37, broke my measuring tape to the point that the school threw it away $13, tore a big hole in her stuffed animal that she was carrying in her backpack $15, and stole her customized code locked diary worth $39. They also stole $5 out of her wallet and an unknown quantity of her pens and pencils. They were caught on camera stealing her backpack. They claim to have given the diary to a third party and thus far it has not been recovered. A week after the incident 10 pictures went up on a middle school gossip site of my daughters diary. Students started naming her so everyone knows it’s hers. We have been in contact with the school since before this started due to another bullying issue. They have at this point said they cannot do anything. We are transferring her schools next year. But she has been only going to school to finish her testing and then home. After her tests are done she is done for the year. My question is what are my legal options here?
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I’m a teacher. Here’s what I can tell you from what I’ve seen. Legally, it doesn’t actually sound like the bullying standard is being met. Bullying is consistent and ongoing. 2 incidents would not be considered bullying by most schools. I think I might use the word harassment instead of bullying when bringing it to the school admin. Also, you are going to want to contact the superintendents office and move this up the chain of command. Principals try to hide incidents like this that might reflect badly on their own job evaluations. I can tell you that most likely nothing will happen other than maybe a day suspension and parents called. I see stuff like that happen all the time. Obviously I’m not a lawyer but we’ve been told be our admin that we cannot do much about stuff posted after school unless it’s an actual safety threat. My understanding is that there are recent legal rulings that do not allow schools to take action against what students post online unless it’s a threat.
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My child had her backpack stolen at school and items stolen, broken and damaged. They broke into her diary and posted pages on instagram. I am looking into legal actions I can take. Any advice is welcome. A little over two weeks ago, two boys at my daughters middle school stole her backpack. The tore up pages in my book $37, broke my measuring tape to the point that the school threw it away $13, tore a big hole in her stuffed animal that she was carrying in her backpack $15, and stole her customized code locked diary worth $39. They also stole $5 out of her wallet and an unknown quantity of her pens and pencils. They were caught on camera stealing her backpack. They claim to have given the diary to a third party and thus far it has not been recovered. A week after the incident 10 pictures went up on a middle school gossip site of my daughters diary. Students started naming her so everyone knows it’s hers. We have been in contact with the school since before this started due to another bullying issue. They have at this point said they cannot do anything. We are transferring her schools next year. But she has been only going to school to finish her testing and then home. After her tests are done she is done for the year. My question is what are my legal options here?
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Go to your County Attorney (what it's called in my state) and file charges and a police report. The school won't do anything as it makes them look bad to discipline students. I'd also file charges for the bullying. Good luck to your daughter.
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I’m a teacher. Here’s what I can tell you from what I’ve seen. Legally, it doesn’t actually sound like the bullying standard is being met. Bullying is consistent and ongoing. 2 incidents would not be considered bullying by most schools. I think I might use the word harassment instead of bullying when bringing it to the school admin. Also, you are going to want to contact the superintendents office and move this up the chain of command. Principals try to hide incidents like this that might reflect badly on their own job evaluations. I can tell you that most likely nothing will happen other than maybe a day suspension and parents called. I see stuff like that happen all the time. Obviously I’m not a lawyer but we’ve been told be our admin that we cannot do much about stuff posted after school unless it’s an actual safety threat. My understanding is that there are recent legal rulings that do not allow schools to take action against what students post online unless it’s a threat.
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[Ohio] I'm pretty much being forced into a bad relationship because she threatens to take my daughter away and take me for child support whenever we argue and I talk about breaking up Basically I just need to know if she can really make it to where I see my daughter only on every other weekend. For context I've been having my daughter half the time and sometimes more because of her mom's work schedule and I buy her everything. She has her own bedroom and food and toys and clothes. She doesn't go without anything and I don't get help from anyone. Yet every time I want to break up with her she threatens that I'll only see my daughter every other weekend and that she will take me for as much as she can in child support. If I didn't already spend all of my extra money on my daughter I wouldn't care but on top of my living expenses and car payment and housing I have very little left over after getting my daughter diapers and food and everything else. A child support payment would cripple me financially. I just really need an out that doesn't make me miss out on my daughter's life and that doesn't make me financially crippled.
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Record the threats. Record any abusive behavior towards yourself and the kid. Write down in a notebook she can’t find or get to any incidents that occur and any money you have spent on your kid and how much time you get her, her mom’s chaotic work schedule and how much more you ask for or get denied and any roadblocks the soon to be ex throws up.
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Ohio favors 50/50 but you will need a lawyer. You may have to pay child support even with 50/50 custody but Ohio has calculations for that. I would start keeping paper records of when you take care of your child,what you spend when etc...paper trails help. Can be quick and easy-get a planner that has a calendar and on days you have your daughter write the times in. Bought diapers on March 27th? Write it down.
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[Ohio] I'm pretty much being forced into a bad relationship because she threatens to take my daughter away and take me for child support whenever we argue and I talk about breaking up Basically I just need to know if she can really make it to where I see my daughter only on every other weekend. For context I've been having my daughter half the time and sometimes more because of her mom's work schedule and I buy her everything. She has her own bedroom and food and toys and clothes. She doesn't go without anything and I don't get help from anyone. Yet every time I want to break up with her she threatens that I'll only see my daughter every other weekend and that she will take me for as much as she can in child support. If I didn't already spend all of my extra money on my daughter I wouldn't care but on top of my living expenses and car payment and housing I have very little left over after getting my daughter diapers and food and everything else. A child support payment would cripple me financially. I just really need an out that doesn't make me miss out on my daughter's life and that doesn't make me financially crippled.
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OP You need to lawyer up and go to court. When you break up with her, the lawyers will first argue, and then a judge will review the custody agreement between both. And if she is making this difficult, she may find a judge is not so amusing and rule against her. And a judge also sets child support. So I would suggest talking and see about retaining a lawyer, cause you staying in a bad relationship is not health for anyone and especially your child.
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Record the threats. Record any abusive behavior towards yourself and the kid. Write down in a notebook she can’t find or get to any incidents that occur and any money you have spent on your kid and how much time you get her, her mom’s chaotic work schedule and how much more you ask for or get denied and any roadblocks the soon to be ex throws up.
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[Ohio] I'm pretty much being forced into a bad relationship because she threatens to take my daughter away and take me for child support whenever we argue and I talk about breaking up Basically I just need to know if she can really make it to where I see my daughter only on every other weekend. For context I've been having my daughter half the time and sometimes more because of her mom's work schedule and I buy her everything. She has her own bedroom and food and toys and clothes. She doesn't go without anything and I don't get help from anyone. Yet every time I want to break up with her she threatens that I'll only see my daughter every other weekend and that she will take me for as much as she can in child support. If I didn't already spend all of my extra money on my daughter I wouldn't care but on top of my living expenses and car payment and housing I have very little left over after getting my daughter diapers and food and everything else. A child support payment would cripple me financially. I just really need an out that doesn't make me miss out on my daughter's life and that doesn't make me financially crippled.
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Go to family court and sue for custody. She sounds unstable.
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OP You need to lawyer up and go to court. When you break up with her, the lawyers will first argue, and then a judge will review the custody agreement between both. And if she is making this difficult, she may find a judge is not so amusing and rule against her. And a judge also sets child support. So I would suggest talking and see about retaining a lawyer, cause you staying in a bad relationship is not health for anyone and especially your child.
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[Ohio] I'm pretty much being forced into a bad relationship because she threatens to take my daughter away and take me for child support whenever we argue and I talk about breaking up Basically I just need to know if she can really make it to where I see my daughter only on every other weekend. For context I've been having my daughter half the time and sometimes more because of her mom's work schedule and I buy her everything. She has her own bedroom and food and toys and clothes. She doesn't go without anything and I don't get help from anyone. Yet every time I want to break up with her she threatens that I'll only see my daughter every other weekend and that she will take me for as much as she can in child support. If I didn't already spend all of my extra money on my daughter I wouldn't care but on top of my living expenses and car payment and housing I have very little left over after getting my daughter diapers and food and everything else. A child support payment would cripple me financially. I just really need an out that doesn't make me miss out on my daughter's life and that doesn't make me financially crippled.
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Record the threats. Record any abusive behavior towards yourself and the kid. Write down in a notebook she can’t find or get to any incidents that occur and any money you have spent on your kid and how much time you get her, her mom’s chaotic work schedule and how much more you ask for or get denied and any roadblocks the soon to be ex throws up.
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Here is the official Ohio Child Support calculator. You can play around with the variables (between 50/50 custody and 100/00 custody) and figure out how much child support will realistically cost. A judge *can* deviate from the recommended child support amount, but it's usually not a significant adjustment.
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[Ohio] I'm pretty much being forced into a bad relationship because she threatens to take my daughter away and take me for child support whenever we argue and I talk about breaking up Basically I just need to know if she can really make it to where I see my daughter only on every other weekend. For context I've been having my daughter half the time and sometimes more because of her mom's work schedule and I buy her everything. She has her own bedroom and food and toys and clothes. She doesn't go without anything and I don't get help from anyone. Yet every time I want to break up with her she threatens that I'll only see my daughter every other weekend and that she will take me for as much as she can in child support. If I didn't already spend all of my extra money on my daughter I wouldn't care but on top of my living expenses and car payment and housing I have very little left over after getting my daughter diapers and food and everything else. A child support payment would cripple me financially. I just really need an out that doesn't make me miss out on my daughter's life and that doesn't make me financially crippled.
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Go to family court and sue for custody. She sounds unstable.
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Here is the official Ohio Child Support calculator. You can play around with the variables (between 50/50 custody and 100/00 custody) and figure out how much child support will realistically cost. A judge *can* deviate from the recommended child support amount, but it's usually not a significant adjustment.
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[Ohio] I'm pretty much being forced into a bad relationship because she threatens to take my daughter away and take me for child support whenever we argue and I talk about breaking up Basically I just need to know if she can really make it to where I see my daughter only on every other weekend. For context I've been having my daughter half the time and sometimes more because of her mom's work schedule and I buy her everything. She has her own bedroom and food and toys and clothes. She doesn't go without anything and I don't get help from anyone. Yet every time I want to break up with her she threatens that I'll only see my daughter every other weekend and that she will take me for as much as she can in child support. If I didn't already spend all of my extra money on my daughter I wouldn't care but on top of my living expenses and car payment and housing I have very little left over after getting my daughter diapers and food and everything else. A child support payment would cripple me financially. I just really need an out that doesn't make me miss out on my daughter's life and that doesn't make me financially crippled.
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I won custody of my daughter in Ohio .. it can be done. Check on Facebook father's rights movement. Sounds toxic I'm so sorry you're dealing with this. What I did was connected with the father's rights movement and got a family advocate who built up a case against Mom and connected me with a good family attorney who would fight for me and my child.
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You paying child support will be inevitable, but it will take the place of what you are giving her directly. And, yes, TEMPORARILY, she can keep you away from the baby until paternity is established and you are awarded parenting time by a court. Depending on the county, that could be six months. Talk to a lawyer now. Ask them to help you establish what your schedule with your son is now, and what you can expect your child support amount to be. Ask them what the “ standard time” in your county is and your chances of shared parenting or custody are. Let your attorney know that you want to minimize the time between break up and when you can see your child again without her interfering.
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My apartment complex gave me 3 days to pay or get out because someone broke into their office and stole my money order I reside in Jackson, Missisippi. The manager at my apartment info the tenants that someone broke into the office and stole money orders. I submitted the receipt and they still want me to pay for the month or they will be forcing me to move out. Is there anything I can do besides repay for the month that the money order got stolen from? I do not have the extra funds. I don't see why I have to be penalized because the money order was stolen.
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1) You're not liable. Do you have this in writing from them (email, etc) as proof they had and lost it? 2) They'd have to evict you and you get to go to court and plead your case. That's when you show your evidence. There is no reality where you have to leave in a few days
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My apartment complex gave me 3 days to pay or get out because someone broke into their office and stole my money order I reside in Jackson, Missisippi. The manager at my apartment info the tenants that someone broke into the office and stole money orders. I submitted the receipt and they still want me to pay for the month or they will be forcing me to move out. Is there anything I can do besides repay for the month that the money order got stolen from? I do not have the extra funds. I don't see why I have to be penalized because the money order was stolen.
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They’re just trying to intimidate you into paying your rent again. They know they have no case. Make sure your future rent payments clearly indicate what rental period they are for. Chances are they are successful ing pulling this on other tenants. I would get in touch with the attorney generals office and let them know whats happening.
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My apartment complex gave me 3 days to pay or get out because someone broke into their office and stole my money order I reside in Jackson, Missisippi. The manager at my apartment info the tenants that someone broke into the office and stole money orders. I submitted the receipt and they still want me to pay for the month or they will be forcing me to move out. Is there anything I can do besides repay for the month that the money order got stolen from? I do not have the extra funds. I don't see why I have to be penalized because the money order was stolen.
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To show some good faith, you should go out of your way to "trace" your money order, and find out if it has been cashed yet. If it's a postal money order, all it takes is a simple form and a small fee ($6.-10.?). Methods through other money order routes aren't as quick or cheap ($30-$40?). I think it takes 20-30 days with USPS and perhaps months for other financial companies. If the money order hasn't been cashed, the funds can be re-issued on a new money order, and you can be a hero to your landlord by providing the "recovered" funds. It sounds like you aren't the only tenant in this boat. Most landlords would happily pay for the small fee to start the money order trace. This act will also make you look that much better in the eyes of the court, if the landlord actually tries to evict or sue. Good Luck.
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My apartment complex gave me 3 days to pay or get out because someone broke into their office and stole my money order I reside in Jackson, Missisippi. The manager at my apartment info the tenants that someone broke into the office and stole money orders. I submitted the receipt and they still want me to pay for the month or they will be forcing me to move out. Is there anything I can do besides repay for the month that the money order got stolen from? I do not have the extra funds. I don't see why I have to be penalized because the money order was stolen.
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If you incur any costs in replacing or attempting to replace the stolen mail order, the apartment should/must reimburse you.
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Gas Station in Florida charged me $100. Gas pump broke while filling, spraying gas everywhere. Now they're ghosting me. The bank won't help reverse the charges. What steps to take? I want to a gas station / convenience store in my son's vehicle to buy him gas. He was driving; I'm in the passenger seat. When we got there, I swiped my ATM card and walked back around the rear of the vehicle to get in, while my son attempted to put gas in. I didn't make it back to the passenger door to get back in (literally 30 seconds, if that). The gas pump hose, where it fits to the pump, let go and disengaged itself from the top. Gas showered down upon my son, his vehicle. Serious amounts of gas were pouring out. We were terrified. I ran to the front of the station and tried to press the emergency shut off button. I saw two men at the other end of the front of the business, where there was another emergency shut off. We're all trying to press the button, but it wasn't working to shut off the gas. I ran into the store and shouted the there was gas showering everywhere and that we needed help. My son, terrified he would ignite into flames, got back into the vehicle and drove away from the pump to the front of the store. He was soaked by the spray and it was also in the vehicle (windows were open). After they shut the gas off, I spoke to the clerk. I asked if there was any recorded charges to my card. The clerk assured me that there were no charges registered. We left. I found that I have a $100 charge to my card from this gas station. I went to my bank and spoke with them, and filed a dispute claim, which was denied about 7 days later. I went back to the gas station about a week later (I live 100 miles away) and tried to talk to the clerk on duty. I asked for the manager or owner contact and she refused to give me anyone's number, but took mine. She told me the name of the manager "Alex" and that he would be in the store Monday morning at 6AM. And that I should come back at that time to speak with him. I told her I do not live in the area and cannot come there at that time. She gave me the store phone number instead. I called Monday morning at 6AM and I was told there is no Alex there. I asked to speak to a manager and was told it's somebody called "Eli". They took my number and nobody has contacted me. I have called over and over again. No answer. I suspect they see my number and are ghosting me. I did not receive $100 worth of goods. Gas ends in a 9 and I don't understand how this charge amount was determined. The bank had no explanation, other than that I swiped the card and authorized the charges and they do not have enough information to reverse the charges. The vehicle is a 2005 Jeep Liberty and it cannot hold $100 in gas. What's the next step(s)? TIA
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Is the station part of a chain? Talk to corporate/HQ. The $100 is likely a preauth and will fall off your card soon. The spraying gas a a huge safety issue. You should also contact FDACS.
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I've got an alternative suggestion. On the front of the gas pump should be a sticker with the State's license/certification information for that particular gas pump. Write down the address of the gas station, the pump number, and the serial number on the license sticker (if it has one) and file a complaint with the State's office using the information from the sticker.
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Gas Station in Florida charged me $100. Gas pump broke while filling, spraying gas everywhere. Now they're ghosting me. The bank won't help reverse the charges. What steps to take? I want to a gas station / convenience store in my son's vehicle to buy him gas. He was driving; I'm in the passenger seat. When we got there, I swiped my ATM card and walked back around the rear of the vehicle to get in, while my son attempted to put gas in. I didn't make it back to the passenger door to get back in (literally 30 seconds, if that). The gas pump hose, where it fits to the pump, let go and disengaged itself from the top. Gas showered down upon my son, his vehicle. Serious amounts of gas were pouring out. We were terrified. I ran to the front of the station and tried to press the emergency shut off button. I saw two men at the other end of the front of the business, where there was another emergency shut off. We're all trying to press the button, but it wasn't working to shut off the gas. I ran into the store and shouted the there was gas showering everywhere and that we needed help. My son, terrified he would ignite into flames, got back into the vehicle and drove away from the pump to the front of the store. He was soaked by the spray and it was also in the vehicle (windows were open). After they shut the gas off, I spoke to the clerk. I asked if there was any recorded charges to my card. The clerk assured me that there were no charges registered. We left. I found that I have a $100 charge to my card from this gas station. I went to my bank and spoke with them, and filed a dispute claim, which was denied about 7 days later. I went back to the gas station about a week later (I live 100 miles away) and tried to talk to the clerk on duty. I asked for the manager or owner contact and she refused to give me anyone's number, but took mine. She told me the name of the manager "Alex" and that he would be in the store Monday morning at 6AM. And that I should come back at that time to speak with him. I told her I do not live in the area and cannot come there at that time. She gave me the store phone number instead. I called Monday morning at 6AM and I was told there is no Alex there. I asked to speak to a manager and was told it's somebody called "Eli". They took my number and nobody has contacted me. I have called over and over again. No answer. I suspect they see my number and are ghosting me. I did not receive $100 worth of goods. Gas ends in a 9 and I don't understand how this charge amount was determined. The bank had no explanation, other than that I swiped the card and authorized the charges and they do not have enough information to reverse the charges. The vehicle is a 2005 Jeep Liberty and it cannot hold $100 in gas. What's the next step(s)? TIA
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I've got an alternative suggestion. On the front of the gas pump should be a sticker with the State's license/certification information for that particular gas pump. Write down the address of the gas station, the pump number, and the serial number on the license sticker (if it has one) and file a complaint with the State's office using the information from the sticker.
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The $100 is a common preauthorization on any credit card gas purchase. It’s almost always replaced by the actual transaction amount within a few days. What does your account say? Seeing this hang on an account after 7 days (including a weekend) isn’t uncommon. What I would be more concerned about is the gas getting on your (or your son’s) personal property. If I got gas on me, on my vehicle and in my vehicle, I’d be way more concerned about that than the $100 on my account. I’d possibly look into an attorney to go after the gas station as there may have been some negligence with the maintenance of the pump and the operation of the emergency cutoff. There should be surveillance cameras watching the pumps that have captured the events of this incident, but they probably won’t just hand that over to you. If an attorney won’t take your case, you may have to pursue it through small claims court.
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Gas Station in Florida charged me $100. Gas pump broke while filling, spraying gas everywhere. Now they're ghosting me. The bank won't help reverse the charges. What steps to take? I want to a gas station / convenience store in my son's vehicle to buy him gas. He was driving; I'm in the passenger seat. When we got there, I swiped my ATM card and walked back around the rear of the vehicle to get in, while my son attempted to put gas in. I didn't make it back to the passenger door to get back in (literally 30 seconds, if that). The gas pump hose, where it fits to the pump, let go and disengaged itself from the top. Gas showered down upon my son, his vehicle. Serious amounts of gas were pouring out. We were terrified. I ran to the front of the station and tried to press the emergency shut off button. I saw two men at the other end of the front of the business, where there was another emergency shut off. We're all trying to press the button, but it wasn't working to shut off the gas. I ran into the store and shouted the there was gas showering everywhere and that we needed help. My son, terrified he would ignite into flames, got back into the vehicle and drove away from the pump to the front of the store. He was soaked by the spray and it was also in the vehicle (windows were open). After they shut the gas off, I spoke to the clerk. I asked if there was any recorded charges to my card. The clerk assured me that there were no charges registered. We left. I found that I have a $100 charge to my card from this gas station. I went to my bank and spoke with them, and filed a dispute claim, which was denied about 7 days later. I went back to the gas station about a week later (I live 100 miles away) and tried to talk to the clerk on duty. I asked for the manager or owner contact and she refused to give me anyone's number, but took mine. She told me the name of the manager "Alex" and that he would be in the store Monday morning at 6AM. And that I should come back at that time to speak with him. I told her I do not live in the area and cannot come there at that time. She gave me the store phone number instead. I called Monday morning at 6AM and I was told there is no Alex there. I asked to speak to a manager and was told it's somebody called "Eli". They took my number and nobody has contacted me. I have called over and over again. No answer. I suspect they see my number and are ghosting me. I did not receive $100 worth of goods. Gas ends in a 9 and I don't understand how this charge amount was determined. The bank had no explanation, other than that I swiped the card and authorized the charges and they do not have enough information to reverse the charges. The vehicle is a 2005 Jeep Liberty and it cannot hold $100 in gas. What's the next step(s)? TIA
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iunbq30
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If the store manager / district manager won't refund you, you'll need to sue them in small claims court.
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I've got an alternative suggestion. On the front of the gas pump should be a sticker with the State's license/certification information for that particular gas pump. Write down the address of the gas station, the pump number, and the serial number on the license sticker (if it has one) and file a complaint with the State's office using the information from the sticker.
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Gas Station in Florida charged me $100. Gas pump broke while filling, spraying gas everywhere. Now they're ghosting me. The bank won't help reverse the charges. What steps to take? I want to a gas station / convenience store in my son's vehicle to buy him gas. He was driving; I'm in the passenger seat. When we got there, I swiped my ATM card and walked back around the rear of the vehicle to get in, while my son attempted to put gas in. I didn't make it back to the passenger door to get back in (literally 30 seconds, if that). The gas pump hose, where it fits to the pump, let go and disengaged itself from the top. Gas showered down upon my son, his vehicle. Serious amounts of gas were pouring out. We were terrified. I ran to the front of the station and tried to press the emergency shut off button. I saw two men at the other end of the front of the business, where there was another emergency shut off. We're all trying to press the button, but it wasn't working to shut off the gas. I ran into the store and shouted the there was gas showering everywhere and that we needed help. My son, terrified he would ignite into flames, got back into the vehicle and drove away from the pump to the front of the store. He was soaked by the spray and it was also in the vehicle (windows were open). After they shut the gas off, I spoke to the clerk. I asked if there was any recorded charges to my card. The clerk assured me that there were no charges registered. We left. I found that I have a $100 charge to my card from this gas station. I went to my bank and spoke with them, and filed a dispute claim, which was denied about 7 days later. I went back to the gas station about a week later (I live 100 miles away) and tried to talk to the clerk on duty. I asked for the manager or owner contact and she refused to give me anyone's number, but took mine. She told me the name of the manager "Alex" and that he would be in the store Monday morning at 6AM. And that I should come back at that time to speak with him. I told her I do not live in the area and cannot come there at that time. She gave me the store phone number instead. I called Monday morning at 6AM and I was told there is no Alex there. I asked to speak to a manager and was told it's somebody called "Eli". They took my number and nobody has contacted me. I have called over and over again. No answer. I suspect they see my number and are ghosting me. I did not receive $100 worth of goods. Gas ends in a 9 and I don't understand how this charge amount was determined. The bank had no explanation, other than that I swiped the card and authorized the charges and they do not have enough information to reverse the charges. The vehicle is a 2005 Jeep Liberty and it cannot hold $100 in gas. What's the next step(s)? TIA
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iun0psm
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The $100 is a common preauthorization on any credit card gas purchase. It’s almost always replaced by the actual transaction amount within a few days. What does your account say? Seeing this hang on an account after 7 days (including a weekend) isn’t uncommon. What I would be more concerned about is the gas getting on your (or your son’s) personal property. If I got gas on me, on my vehicle and in my vehicle, I’d be way more concerned about that than the $100 on my account. I’d possibly look into an attorney to go after the gas station as there may have been some negligence with the maintenance of the pump and the operation of the emergency cutoff. There should be surveillance cameras watching the pumps that have captured the events of this incident, but they probably won’t just hand that over to you. If an attorney won’t take your case, you may have to pursue it through small claims court.
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Is the station part of a chain? Talk to corporate/HQ. The $100 is likely a preauth and will fall off your card soon. The spraying gas a a huge safety issue. You should also contact FDACS.
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Gas Station in Florida charged me $100. Gas pump broke while filling, spraying gas everywhere. Now they're ghosting me. The bank won't help reverse the charges. What steps to take? I want to a gas station / convenience store in my son's vehicle to buy him gas. He was driving; I'm in the passenger seat. When we got there, I swiped my ATM card and walked back around the rear of the vehicle to get in, while my son attempted to put gas in. I didn't make it back to the passenger door to get back in (literally 30 seconds, if that). The gas pump hose, where it fits to the pump, let go and disengaged itself from the top. Gas showered down upon my son, his vehicle. Serious amounts of gas were pouring out. We were terrified. I ran to the front of the station and tried to press the emergency shut off button. I saw two men at the other end of the front of the business, where there was another emergency shut off. We're all trying to press the button, but it wasn't working to shut off the gas. I ran into the store and shouted the there was gas showering everywhere and that we needed help. My son, terrified he would ignite into flames, got back into the vehicle and drove away from the pump to the front of the store. He was soaked by the spray and it was also in the vehicle (windows were open). After they shut the gas off, I spoke to the clerk. I asked if there was any recorded charges to my card. The clerk assured me that there were no charges registered. We left. I found that I have a $100 charge to my card from this gas station. I went to my bank and spoke with them, and filed a dispute claim, which was denied about 7 days later. I went back to the gas station about a week later (I live 100 miles away) and tried to talk to the clerk on duty. I asked for the manager or owner contact and she refused to give me anyone's number, but took mine. She told me the name of the manager "Alex" and that he would be in the store Monday morning at 6AM. And that I should come back at that time to speak with him. I told her I do not live in the area and cannot come there at that time. She gave me the store phone number instead. I called Monday morning at 6AM and I was told there is no Alex there. I asked to speak to a manager and was told it's somebody called "Eli". They took my number and nobody has contacted me. I have called over and over again. No answer. I suspect they see my number and are ghosting me. I did not receive $100 worth of goods. Gas ends in a 9 and I don't understand how this charge amount was determined. The bank had no explanation, other than that I swiped the card and authorized the charges and they do not have enough information to reverse the charges. The vehicle is a 2005 Jeep Liberty and it cannot hold $100 in gas. What's the next step(s)? TIA
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iun0yeq
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When you called the bank, did they say anything about it being a "pending" or "preauthorization" transaction? If so, the bank can't really do anything as far as disputes until it's finalized. At that point it may go away, or be a smaller amount.
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If the store manager / district manager won't refund you, you'll need to sue them in small claims court.
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Gas Station in Florida charged me $100. Gas pump broke while filling, spraying gas everywhere. Now they're ghosting me. The bank won't help reverse the charges. What steps to take? I want to a gas station / convenience store in my son's vehicle to buy him gas. He was driving; I'm in the passenger seat. When we got there, I swiped my ATM card and walked back around the rear of the vehicle to get in, while my son attempted to put gas in. I didn't make it back to the passenger door to get back in (literally 30 seconds, if that). The gas pump hose, where it fits to the pump, let go and disengaged itself from the top. Gas showered down upon my son, his vehicle. Serious amounts of gas were pouring out. We were terrified. I ran to the front of the station and tried to press the emergency shut off button. I saw two men at the other end of the front of the business, where there was another emergency shut off. We're all trying to press the button, but it wasn't working to shut off the gas. I ran into the store and shouted the there was gas showering everywhere and that we needed help. My son, terrified he would ignite into flames, got back into the vehicle and drove away from the pump to the front of the store. He was soaked by the spray and it was also in the vehicle (windows were open). After they shut the gas off, I spoke to the clerk. I asked if there was any recorded charges to my card. The clerk assured me that there were no charges registered. We left. I found that I have a $100 charge to my card from this gas station. I went to my bank and spoke with them, and filed a dispute claim, which was denied about 7 days later. I went back to the gas station about a week later (I live 100 miles away) and tried to talk to the clerk on duty. I asked for the manager or owner contact and she refused to give me anyone's number, but took mine. She told me the name of the manager "Alex" and that he would be in the store Monday morning at 6AM. And that I should come back at that time to speak with him. I told her I do not live in the area and cannot come there at that time. She gave me the store phone number instead. I called Monday morning at 6AM and I was told there is no Alex there. I asked to speak to a manager and was told it's somebody called "Eli". They took my number and nobody has contacted me. I have called over and over again. No answer. I suspect they see my number and are ghosting me. I did not receive $100 worth of goods. Gas ends in a 9 and I don't understand how this charge amount was determined. The bank had no explanation, other than that I swiped the card and authorized the charges and they do not have enough information to reverse the charges. The vehicle is a 2005 Jeep Liberty and it cannot hold $100 in gas. What's the next step(s)? TIA
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iun0yeq
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> The bank had no explanation, other than that I swiped the card and authorized the charges and they do not have enough information to reverse the charges. Did you make it clear that you are not making an "unauthorized use" dispute, but rather disputing an authorized charge for "goods not received?" In the banking world there are two different types of disputes, one in which you claim the card was used by someone other than yourself, and for which you should have no liability, and another in which you claim that the merchant failed to provide the goods and services promised. You need to make it clear that you are trying to do the latter. If the bank refuses to hear out your dispute, you can escalate to the CFPB. As a different matter, the fact that the emergency shutoff didn't work is a MAJOR issue. You should do as /u/Provia100F suggests and contact the state licensing agency and let them know what happened. Referencing that complaint can help bolster your claim with the bank, and its also just important for safety's sake to make sure that things like this don't happen again to others.
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If the store manager / district manager won't refund you, you'll need to sue them in small claims court.
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legaladvice_train
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Gas Station in Florida charged me $100. Gas pump broke while filling, spraying gas everywhere. Now they're ghosting me. The bank won't help reverse the charges. What steps to take? I want to a gas station / convenience store in my son's vehicle to buy him gas. He was driving; I'm in the passenger seat. When we got there, I swiped my ATM card and walked back around the rear of the vehicle to get in, while my son attempted to put gas in. I didn't make it back to the passenger door to get back in (literally 30 seconds, if that). The gas pump hose, where it fits to the pump, let go and disengaged itself from the top. Gas showered down upon my son, his vehicle. Serious amounts of gas were pouring out. We were terrified. I ran to the front of the station and tried to press the emergency shut off button. I saw two men at the other end of the front of the business, where there was another emergency shut off. We're all trying to press the button, but it wasn't working to shut off the gas. I ran into the store and shouted the there was gas showering everywhere and that we needed help. My son, terrified he would ignite into flames, got back into the vehicle and drove away from the pump to the front of the store. He was soaked by the spray and it was also in the vehicle (windows were open). After they shut the gas off, I spoke to the clerk. I asked if there was any recorded charges to my card. The clerk assured me that there were no charges registered. We left. I found that I have a $100 charge to my card from this gas station. I went to my bank and spoke with them, and filed a dispute claim, which was denied about 7 days later. I went back to the gas station about a week later (I live 100 miles away) and tried to talk to the clerk on duty. I asked for the manager or owner contact and she refused to give me anyone's number, but took mine. She told me the name of the manager "Alex" and that he would be in the store Monday morning at 6AM. And that I should come back at that time to speak with him. I told her I do not live in the area and cannot come there at that time. She gave me the store phone number instead. I called Monday morning at 6AM and I was told there is no Alex there. I asked to speak to a manager and was told it's somebody called "Eli". They took my number and nobody has contacted me. I have called over and over again. No answer. I suspect they see my number and are ghosting me. I did not receive $100 worth of goods. Gas ends in a 9 and I don't understand how this charge amount was determined. The bank had no explanation, other than that I swiped the card and authorized the charges and they do not have enough information to reverse the charges. The vehicle is a 2005 Jeep Liberty and it cannot hold $100 in gas. What's the next step(s)? TIA
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iuo8lrz
| 1,667,334,378 | 1,667,334,898 | 7 | 45 |
Did the gas turn off when it hit $100? As others noted this is a common pre authorization for gas pumps, but that doesn’t mean it also didn’t run up the tab to $100 and shut it off. I would try to contact the customer service department for whatever oil brand they use/sell for. Finally as others noted, you could sue them in small claims court if this is not resolved any other way. But first I would watch the charge and verify it was not just a preauthorization.
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> The bank had no explanation, other than that I swiped the card and authorized the charges and they do not have enough information to reverse the charges. Did you make it clear that you are not making an "unauthorized use" dispute, but rather disputing an authorized charge for "goods not received?" In the banking world there are two different types of disputes, one in which you claim the card was used by someone other than yourself, and for which you should have no liability, and another in which you claim that the merchant failed to provide the goods and services promised. You need to make it clear that you are trying to do the latter. If the bank refuses to hear out your dispute, you can escalate to the CFPB. As a different matter, the fact that the emergency shutoff didn't work is a MAJOR issue. You should do as /u/Provia100F suggests and contact the state licensing agency and let them know what happened. Referencing that complaint can help bolster your claim with the bank, and its also just important for safety's sake to make sure that things like this don't happen again to others.
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Gas Station in Florida charged me $100. Gas pump broke while filling, spraying gas everywhere. Now they're ghosting me. The bank won't help reverse the charges. What steps to take? I want to a gas station / convenience store in my son's vehicle to buy him gas. He was driving; I'm in the passenger seat. When we got there, I swiped my ATM card and walked back around the rear of the vehicle to get in, while my son attempted to put gas in. I didn't make it back to the passenger door to get back in (literally 30 seconds, if that). The gas pump hose, where it fits to the pump, let go and disengaged itself from the top. Gas showered down upon my son, his vehicle. Serious amounts of gas were pouring out. We were terrified. I ran to the front of the station and tried to press the emergency shut off button. I saw two men at the other end of the front of the business, where there was another emergency shut off. We're all trying to press the button, but it wasn't working to shut off the gas. I ran into the store and shouted the there was gas showering everywhere and that we needed help. My son, terrified he would ignite into flames, got back into the vehicle and drove away from the pump to the front of the store. He was soaked by the spray and it was also in the vehicle (windows were open). After they shut the gas off, I spoke to the clerk. I asked if there was any recorded charges to my card. The clerk assured me that there were no charges registered. We left. I found that I have a $100 charge to my card from this gas station. I went to my bank and spoke with them, and filed a dispute claim, which was denied about 7 days later. I went back to the gas station about a week later (I live 100 miles away) and tried to talk to the clerk on duty. I asked for the manager or owner contact and she refused to give me anyone's number, but took mine. She told me the name of the manager "Alex" and that he would be in the store Monday morning at 6AM. And that I should come back at that time to speak with him. I told her I do not live in the area and cannot come there at that time. She gave me the store phone number instead. I called Monday morning at 6AM and I was told there is no Alex there. I asked to speak to a manager and was told it's somebody called "Eli". They took my number and nobody has contacted me. I have called over and over again. No answer. I suspect they see my number and are ghosting me. I did not receive $100 worth of goods. Gas ends in a 9 and I don't understand how this charge amount was determined. The bank had no explanation, other than that I swiped the card and authorized the charges and they do not have enough information to reverse the charges. The vehicle is a 2005 Jeep Liberty and it cannot hold $100 in gas. What's the next step(s)? TIA
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iup65va
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Did the gas turn off when it hit $100? As others noted this is a common pre authorization for gas pumps, but that doesn’t mean it also didn’t run up the tab to $100 and shut it off. I would try to contact the customer service department for whatever oil brand they use/sell for. Finally as others noted, you could sue them in small claims court if this is not resolved any other way. But first I would watch the charge and verify it was not just a preauthorization.
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Not a lawyer. Gasoline spraying everywhere is a huge safety issue and is carcinogenic absorbed through the skin and can cause pretty bad burns. You may want to inquire about compensation.
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legaladvice_train
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Gas Station in Florida charged me $100. Gas pump broke while filling, spraying gas everywhere. Now they're ghosting me. The bank won't help reverse the charges. What steps to take? I want to a gas station / convenience store in my son's vehicle to buy him gas. He was driving; I'm in the passenger seat. When we got there, I swiped my ATM card and walked back around the rear of the vehicle to get in, while my son attempted to put gas in. I didn't make it back to the passenger door to get back in (literally 30 seconds, if that). The gas pump hose, where it fits to the pump, let go and disengaged itself from the top. Gas showered down upon my son, his vehicle. Serious amounts of gas were pouring out. We were terrified. I ran to the front of the station and tried to press the emergency shut off button. I saw two men at the other end of the front of the business, where there was another emergency shut off. We're all trying to press the button, but it wasn't working to shut off the gas. I ran into the store and shouted the there was gas showering everywhere and that we needed help. My son, terrified he would ignite into flames, got back into the vehicle and drove away from the pump to the front of the store. He was soaked by the spray and it was also in the vehicle (windows were open). After they shut the gas off, I spoke to the clerk. I asked if there was any recorded charges to my card. The clerk assured me that there were no charges registered. We left. I found that I have a $100 charge to my card from this gas station. I went to my bank and spoke with them, and filed a dispute claim, which was denied about 7 days later. I went back to the gas station about a week later (I live 100 miles away) and tried to talk to the clerk on duty. I asked for the manager or owner contact and she refused to give me anyone's number, but took mine. She told me the name of the manager "Alex" and that he would be in the store Monday morning at 6AM. And that I should come back at that time to speak with him. I told her I do not live in the area and cannot come there at that time. She gave me the store phone number instead. I called Monday morning at 6AM and I was told there is no Alex there. I asked to speak to a manager and was told it's somebody called "Eli". They took my number and nobody has contacted me. I have called over and over again. No answer. I suspect they see my number and are ghosting me. I did not receive $100 worth of goods. Gas ends in a 9 and I don't understand how this charge amount was determined. The bank had no explanation, other than that I swiped the card and authorized the charges and they do not have enough information to reverse the charges. The vehicle is a 2005 Jeep Liberty and it cannot hold $100 in gas. What's the next step(s)? TIA
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iup65va
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iuoa5pt
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Not a lawyer. Gasoline spraying everywhere is a huge safety issue and is carcinogenic absorbed through the skin and can cause pretty bad burns. You may want to inquire about compensation.
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Exactly 100? Pre-authorization. I deal with people getting angry about them every week, people who don't realize it happens every time at nearly every station.
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legaladvice_train
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Gas Station in Florida charged me $100. Gas pump broke while filling, spraying gas everywhere. Now they're ghosting me. The bank won't help reverse the charges. What steps to take? I want to a gas station / convenience store in my son's vehicle to buy him gas. He was driving; I'm in the passenger seat. When we got there, I swiped my ATM card and walked back around the rear of the vehicle to get in, while my son attempted to put gas in. I didn't make it back to the passenger door to get back in (literally 30 seconds, if that). The gas pump hose, where it fits to the pump, let go and disengaged itself from the top. Gas showered down upon my son, his vehicle. Serious amounts of gas were pouring out. We were terrified. I ran to the front of the station and tried to press the emergency shut off button. I saw two men at the other end of the front of the business, where there was another emergency shut off. We're all trying to press the button, but it wasn't working to shut off the gas. I ran into the store and shouted the there was gas showering everywhere and that we needed help. My son, terrified he would ignite into flames, got back into the vehicle and drove away from the pump to the front of the store. He was soaked by the spray and it was also in the vehicle (windows were open). After they shut the gas off, I spoke to the clerk. I asked if there was any recorded charges to my card. The clerk assured me that there were no charges registered. We left. I found that I have a $100 charge to my card from this gas station. I went to my bank and spoke with them, and filed a dispute claim, which was denied about 7 days later. I went back to the gas station about a week later (I live 100 miles away) and tried to talk to the clerk on duty. I asked for the manager or owner contact and she refused to give me anyone's number, but took mine. She told me the name of the manager "Alex" and that he would be in the store Monday morning at 6AM. And that I should come back at that time to speak with him. I told her I do not live in the area and cannot come there at that time. She gave me the store phone number instead. I called Monday morning at 6AM and I was told there is no Alex there. I asked to speak to a manager and was told it's somebody called "Eli". They took my number and nobody has contacted me. I have called over and over again. No answer. I suspect they see my number and are ghosting me. I did not receive $100 worth of goods. Gas ends in a 9 and I don't understand how this charge amount was determined. The bank had no explanation, other than that I swiped the card and authorized the charges and they do not have enough information to reverse the charges. The vehicle is a 2005 Jeep Liberty and it cannot hold $100 in gas. What's the next step(s)? TIA
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iup65va
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iup2k9l
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Not a lawyer. Gasoline spraying everywhere is a huge safety issue and is carcinogenic absorbed through the skin and can cause pretty bad burns. You may want to inquire about compensation.
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Wait, you drove a hundred miles for a hundred bucks? Why?
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legaladvice_train
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Gas Station in Florida charged me $100. Gas pump broke while filling, spraying gas everywhere. Now they're ghosting me. The bank won't help reverse the charges. What steps to take? I want to a gas station / convenience store in my son's vehicle to buy him gas. He was driving; I'm in the passenger seat. When we got there, I swiped my ATM card and walked back around the rear of the vehicle to get in, while my son attempted to put gas in. I didn't make it back to the passenger door to get back in (literally 30 seconds, if that). The gas pump hose, where it fits to the pump, let go and disengaged itself from the top. Gas showered down upon my son, his vehicle. Serious amounts of gas were pouring out. We were terrified. I ran to the front of the station and tried to press the emergency shut off button. I saw two men at the other end of the front of the business, where there was another emergency shut off. We're all trying to press the button, but it wasn't working to shut off the gas. I ran into the store and shouted the there was gas showering everywhere and that we needed help. My son, terrified he would ignite into flames, got back into the vehicle and drove away from the pump to the front of the store. He was soaked by the spray and it was also in the vehicle (windows were open). After they shut the gas off, I spoke to the clerk. I asked if there was any recorded charges to my card. The clerk assured me that there were no charges registered. We left. I found that I have a $100 charge to my card from this gas station. I went to my bank and spoke with them, and filed a dispute claim, which was denied about 7 days later. I went back to the gas station about a week later (I live 100 miles away) and tried to talk to the clerk on duty. I asked for the manager or owner contact and she refused to give me anyone's number, but took mine. She told me the name of the manager "Alex" and that he would be in the store Monday morning at 6AM. And that I should come back at that time to speak with him. I told her I do not live in the area and cannot come there at that time. She gave me the store phone number instead. I called Monday morning at 6AM and I was told there is no Alex there. I asked to speak to a manager and was told it's somebody called "Eli". They took my number and nobody has contacted me. I have called over and over again. No answer. I suspect they see my number and are ghosting me. I did not receive $100 worth of goods. Gas ends in a 9 and I don't understand how this charge amount was determined. The bank had no explanation, other than that I swiped the card and authorized the charges and they do not have enough information to reverse the charges. The vehicle is a 2005 Jeep Liberty and it cannot hold $100 in gas. What's the next step(s)? TIA
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iuo77rs
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Exactly 100? Pre-authorization. I deal with people getting angry about them every week, people who don't realize it happens every time at nearly every station.
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Did the gas turn off when it hit $100? As others noted this is a common pre authorization for gas pumps, but that doesn’t mean it also didn’t run up the tab to $100 and shut it off. I would try to contact the customer service department for whatever oil brand they use/sell for. Finally as others noted, you could sue them in small claims court if this is not resolved any other way. But first I would watch the charge and verify it was not just a preauthorization.
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Gas Station in Florida charged me $100. Gas pump broke while filling, spraying gas everywhere. Now they're ghosting me. The bank won't help reverse the charges. What steps to take? I want to a gas station / convenience store in my son's vehicle to buy him gas. He was driving; I'm in the passenger seat. When we got there, I swiped my ATM card and walked back around the rear of the vehicle to get in, while my son attempted to put gas in. I didn't make it back to the passenger door to get back in (literally 30 seconds, if that). The gas pump hose, where it fits to the pump, let go and disengaged itself from the top. Gas showered down upon my son, his vehicle. Serious amounts of gas were pouring out. We were terrified. I ran to the front of the station and tried to press the emergency shut off button. I saw two men at the other end of the front of the business, where there was another emergency shut off. We're all trying to press the button, but it wasn't working to shut off the gas. I ran into the store and shouted the there was gas showering everywhere and that we needed help. My son, terrified he would ignite into flames, got back into the vehicle and drove away from the pump to the front of the store. He was soaked by the spray and it was also in the vehicle (windows were open). After they shut the gas off, I spoke to the clerk. I asked if there was any recorded charges to my card. The clerk assured me that there were no charges registered. We left. I found that I have a $100 charge to my card from this gas station. I went to my bank and spoke with them, and filed a dispute claim, which was denied about 7 days later. I went back to the gas station about a week later (I live 100 miles away) and tried to talk to the clerk on duty. I asked for the manager or owner contact and she refused to give me anyone's number, but took mine. She told me the name of the manager "Alex" and that he would be in the store Monday morning at 6AM. And that I should come back at that time to speak with him. I told her I do not live in the area and cannot come there at that time. She gave me the store phone number instead. I called Monday morning at 6AM and I was told there is no Alex there. I asked to speak to a manager and was told it's somebody called "Eli". They took my number and nobody has contacted me. I have called over and over again. No answer. I suspect they see my number and are ghosting me. I did not receive $100 worth of goods. Gas ends in a 9 and I don't understand how this charge amount was determined. The bank had no explanation, other than that I swiped the card and authorized the charges and they do not have enough information to reverse the charges. The vehicle is a 2005 Jeep Liberty and it cannot hold $100 in gas. What's the next step(s)? TIA
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iupnht6
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Wait, you drove a hundred miles for a hundred bucks? Why?
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This is why you don't use a debit card for routine purchases. Credit cards offer way better protection for unauthorized charges or undelivered/damaged goods.
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Gas Station in Florida charged me $100. Gas pump broke while filling, spraying gas everywhere. Now they're ghosting me. The bank won't help reverse the charges. What steps to take? I want to a gas station / convenience store in my son's vehicle to buy him gas. He was driving; I'm in the passenger seat. When we got there, I swiped my ATM card and walked back around the rear of the vehicle to get in, while my son attempted to put gas in. I didn't make it back to the passenger door to get back in (literally 30 seconds, if that). The gas pump hose, where it fits to the pump, let go and disengaged itself from the top. Gas showered down upon my son, his vehicle. Serious amounts of gas were pouring out. We were terrified. I ran to the front of the station and tried to press the emergency shut off button. I saw two men at the other end of the front of the business, where there was another emergency shut off. We're all trying to press the button, but it wasn't working to shut off the gas. I ran into the store and shouted the there was gas showering everywhere and that we needed help. My son, terrified he would ignite into flames, got back into the vehicle and drove away from the pump to the front of the store. He was soaked by the spray and it was also in the vehicle (windows were open). After they shut the gas off, I spoke to the clerk. I asked if there was any recorded charges to my card. The clerk assured me that there were no charges registered. We left. I found that I have a $100 charge to my card from this gas station. I went to my bank and spoke with them, and filed a dispute claim, which was denied about 7 days later. I went back to the gas station about a week later (I live 100 miles away) and tried to talk to the clerk on duty. I asked for the manager or owner contact and she refused to give me anyone's number, but took mine. She told me the name of the manager "Alex" and that he would be in the store Monday morning at 6AM. And that I should come back at that time to speak with him. I told her I do not live in the area and cannot come there at that time. She gave me the store phone number instead. I called Monday morning at 6AM and I was told there is no Alex there. I asked to speak to a manager and was told it's somebody called "Eli". They took my number and nobody has contacted me. I have called over and over again. No answer. I suspect they see my number and are ghosting me. I did not receive $100 worth of goods. Gas ends in a 9 and I don't understand how this charge amount was determined. The bank had no explanation, other than that I swiped the card and authorized the charges and they do not have enough information to reverse the charges. The vehicle is a 2005 Jeep Liberty and it cannot hold $100 in gas. What's the next step(s)? TIA
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iup2k9l
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iupswvb
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Wait, you drove a hundred miles for a hundred bucks? Why?
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Start with the brand of the gas station - shell, bp, Exxon, etc. There is a good chance no one at the station has the authorization or care to fix your issue. Minimum wage tends to equal minimum care. The larger org should have someone who can help resolve this. If not Call the state license board - probably weighs and measures. Call the local environmental office and report the spill. Call the AHJ (typically fire marshal). Basically be enough of a headache they fix the issue. But don't do this until you've tried the diplomatic approach. This is a really good example of why not to use a debit card. For one a preauth can put you into overdraw, but more importantly if someone takes your money it's your money that's gone. On a cc its the company's money and they are going to be more apt to resolve the situation.
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yj9nkj
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Gas Station in Florida charged me $100. Gas pump broke while filling, spraying gas everywhere. Now they're ghosting me. The bank won't help reverse the charges. What steps to take? I want to a gas station / convenience store in my son's vehicle to buy him gas. He was driving; I'm in the passenger seat. When we got there, I swiped my ATM card and walked back around the rear of the vehicle to get in, while my son attempted to put gas in. I didn't make it back to the passenger door to get back in (literally 30 seconds, if that). The gas pump hose, where it fits to the pump, let go and disengaged itself from the top. Gas showered down upon my son, his vehicle. Serious amounts of gas were pouring out. We were terrified. I ran to the front of the station and tried to press the emergency shut off button. I saw two men at the other end of the front of the business, where there was another emergency shut off. We're all trying to press the button, but it wasn't working to shut off the gas. I ran into the store and shouted the there was gas showering everywhere and that we needed help. My son, terrified he would ignite into flames, got back into the vehicle and drove away from the pump to the front of the store. He was soaked by the spray and it was also in the vehicle (windows were open). After they shut the gas off, I spoke to the clerk. I asked if there was any recorded charges to my card. The clerk assured me that there were no charges registered. We left. I found that I have a $100 charge to my card from this gas station. I went to my bank and spoke with them, and filed a dispute claim, which was denied about 7 days later. I went back to the gas station about a week later (I live 100 miles away) and tried to talk to the clerk on duty. I asked for the manager or owner contact and she refused to give me anyone's number, but took mine. She told me the name of the manager "Alex" and that he would be in the store Monday morning at 6AM. And that I should come back at that time to speak with him. I told her I do not live in the area and cannot come there at that time. She gave me the store phone number instead. I called Monday morning at 6AM and I was told there is no Alex there. I asked to speak to a manager and was told it's somebody called "Eli". They took my number and nobody has contacted me. I have called over and over again. No answer. I suspect they see my number and are ghosting me. I did not receive $100 worth of goods. Gas ends in a 9 and I don't understand how this charge amount was determined. The bank had no explanation, other than that I swiped the card and authorized the charges and they do not have enough information to reverse the charges. The vehicle is a 2005 Jeep Liberty and it cannot hold $100 in gas. What's the next step(s)? TIA
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iup2k9l
| 1,667,360,227 | 1,667,347,116 | 3 | 2 |
I’d be more worried about to the damage to the paint and interior of the vehicle. If it’s the stations fault for not maintaining equipment they should be paying for it.
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Wait, you drove a hundred miles for a hundred bucks? Why?
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Hotel charged me for a night after denying my stay there? To preface I am an extremely broke college student. 19, missouri (black) I was homeless for 2 months and sleeping in my car, but this night it was supposed to be 15 degrees. It was pay day (i got 70 dollars) So i figured I could get a hotel for the night. I booked my room and went to the hotel. I was told they couldnt let me stay because of a new law that just passed saying you have to be 21 to book hotels on your own. They looked over my info again and saw that id already put my card info down, and said they could bypass the law because of that. I gave them my ID and once again the lady said "oh no since your address is in this city we cant let you stay here" I asked what she meant and she replied with this very quickly and not giving me room to speak. "We could let you stay here but since your address is here we have to charge a 250 desposit fee and its just- im sorry i cant let you stay here theres nothing i can do for you" I told her i was homeless and can pay for the room and she told me she couldnt let me stay there and there was nothing else she could do. I asked if I would be charged and she said no because she wouldnt be able to book my room. I asked if any other hotels would let me stay and she said probably not. So i went out to my car and cried. The next day i see ive been charged. I filed a refund request and it was canceled so i called them. The GM was there and said that they cant refund me because i cancelled. He said that the receptionist put in the note that i refused to pay the deposit fee and thats why it was cancelled. Thats not what happened obviously What can I do about this? It was 74 dollars and now i have no money till next payday.
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j0rm0qx
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j0se98i
| 1,671,401,008 | 1,671,413,545 | 203 | 402 |
A lot of hotels have CCTV with sound at reception. Perhaps you could ask the manager to review the recording.
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Call your cc company. They can tell you if there's a charge or a hold. If it's a charge ask for the charge to be reversed or that you want to dispute the charges. You can still try to sort things out with a hotel manager.
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zp766a
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Hotel charged me for a night after denying my stay there? To preface I am an extremely broke college student. 19, missouri (black) I was homeless for 2 months and sleeping in my car, but this night it was supposed to be 15 degrees. It was pay day (i got 70 dollars) So i figured I could get a hotel for the night. I booked my room and went to the hotel. I was told they couldnt let me stay because of a new law that just passed saying you have to be 21 to book hotels on your own. They looked over my info again and saw that id already put my card info down, and said they could bypass the law because of that. I gave them my ID and once again the lady said "oh no since your address is in this city we cant let you stay here" I asked what she meant and she replied with this very quickly and not giving me room to speak. "We could let you stay here but since your address is here we have to charge a 250 desposit fee and its just- im sorry i cant let you stay here theres nothing i can do for you" I told her i was homeless and can pay for the room and she told me she couldnt let me stay there and there was nothing else she could do. I asked if I would be charged and she said no because she wouldnt be able to book my room. I asked if any other hotels would let me stay and she said probably not. So i went out to my car and cried. The next day i see ive been charged. I filed a refund request and it was canceled so i called them. The GM was there and said that they cant refund me because i cancelled. He said that the receptionist put in the note that i refused to pay the deposit fee and thats why it was cancelled. Thats not what happened obviously What can I do about this? It was 74 dollars and now i have no money till next payday.
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j0rslgu
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Call your cc company. They can tell you if there's a charge or a hold. If it's a charge ask for the charge to be reversed or that you want to dispute the charges. You can still try to sort things out with a hotel manager.
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It sounds like this should be able to be resolved with the manager. Is this a big chain where you can call corporate? Many hotels have customer service reps on social media that can escalate issues. You probably have good case to dispute the charge with your bank.
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zp766a
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Hotel charged me for a night after denying my stay there? To preface I am an extremely broke college student. 19, missouri (black) I was homeless for 2 months and sleeping in my car, but this night it was supposed to be 15 degrees. It was pay day (i got 70 dollars) So i figured I could get a hotel for the night. I booked my room and went to the hotel. I was told they couldnt let me stay because of a new law that just passed saying you have to be 21 to book hotels on your own. They looked over my info again and saw that id already put my card info down, and said they could bypass the law because of that. I gave them my ID and once again the lady said "oh no since your address is in this city we cant let you stay here" I asked what she meant and she replied with this very quickly and not giving me room to speak. "We could let you stay here but since your address is here we have to charge a 250 desposit fee and its just- im sorry i cant let you stay here theres nothing i can do for you" I told her i was homeless and can pay for the room and she told me she couldnt let me stay there and there was nothing else she could do. I asked if I would be charged and she said no because she wouldnt be able to book my room. I asked if any other hotels would let me stay and she said probably not. So i went out to my car and cried. The next day i see ive been charged. I filed a refund request and it was canceled so i called them. The GM was there and said that they cant refund me because i cancelled. He said that the receptionist put in the note that i refused to pay the deposit fee and thats why it was cancelled. Thats not what happened obviously What can I do about this? It was 74 dollars and now i have no money till next payday.
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j0rhr4k
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j0se98i
| 1,671,399,219 | 1,671,413,545 | 43 | 402 |
We’re you in position to pay the $250 deposit?
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Call your cc company. They can tell you if there's a charge or a hold. If it's a charge ask for the charge to be reversed or that you want to dispute the charges. You can still try to sort things out with a hotel manager.
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zp766a
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legaladvice_train
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Hotel charged me for a night after denying my stay there? To preface I am an extremely broke college student. 19, missouri (black) I was homeless for 2 months and sleeping in my car, but this night it was supposed to be 15 degrees. It was pay day (i got 70 dollars) So i figured I could get a hotel for the night. I booked my room and went to the hotel. I was told they couldnt let me stay because of a new law that just passed saying you have to be 21 to book hotels on your own. They looked over my info again and saw that id already put my card info down, and said they could bypass the law because of that. I gave them my ID and once again the lady said "oh no since your address is in this city we cant let you stay here" I asked what she meant and she replied with this very quickly and not giving me room to speak. "We could let you stay here but since your address is here we have to charge a 250 desposit fee and its just- im sorry i cant let you stay here theres nothing i can do for you" I told her i was homeless and can pay for the room and she told me she couldnt let me stay there and there was nothing else she could do. I asked if I would be charged and she said no because she wouldnt be able to book my room. I asked if any other hotels would let me stay and she said probably not. So i went out to my car and cried. The next day i see ive been charged. I filed a refund request and it was canceled so i called them. The GM was there and said that they cant refund me because i cancelled. He said that the receptionist put in the note that i refused to pay the deposit fee and thats why it was cancelled. Thats not what happened obviously What can I do about this? It was 74 dollars and now i have no money till next payday.
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j0rgrzu
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j0se98i
| 1,671,398,819 | 1,671,413,545 | 22 | 402 |
>(black) I'm not sure what you mean by that. Are you alleging racial discrimination? >21 to book hotels on your own That's very commonplace in the hotel industry. Mostly it's a company policy, though >since your address is in this city we cant let you stay here That's also fairly standsrd in the hotel industry. Many hotels don't rent to people that live within a certain mileage of them as it sets off red flags for partying, drugs, and prostitution. As for the charge, it may just be a hold. Sometimes it might take 2-3 days for refunds to go through, especially on weekends
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Call your cc company. They can tell you if there's a charge or a hold. If it's a charge ask for the charge to be reversed or that you want to dispute the charges. You can still try to sort things out with a hotel manager.
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zp766a
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legaladvice_train
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Hotel charged me for a night after denying my stay there? To preface I am an extremely broke college student. 19, missouri (black) I was homeless for 2 months and sleeping in my car, but this night it was supposed to be 15 degrees. It was pay day (i got 70 dollars) So i figured I could get a hotel for the night. I booked my room and went to the hotel. I was told they couldnt let me stay because of a new law that just passed saying you have to be 21 to book hotels on your own. They looked over my info again and saw that id already put my card info down, and said they could bypass the law because of that. I gave them my ID and once again the lady said "oh no since your address is in this city we cant let you stay here" I asked what she meant and she replied with this very quickly and not giving me room to speak. "We could let you stay here but since your address is here we have to charge a 250 desposit fee and its just- im sorry i cant let you stay here theres nothing i can do for you" I told her i was homeless and can pay for the room and she told me she couldnt let me stay there and there was nothing else she could do. I asked if I would be charged and she said no because she wouldnt be able to book my room. I asked if any other hotels would let me stay and she said probably not. So i went out to my car and cried. The next day i see ive been charged. I filed a refund request and it was canceled so i called them. The GM was there and said that they cant refund me because i cancelled. He said that the receptionist put in the note that i refused to pay the deposit fee and thats why it was cancelled. Thats not what happened obviously What can I do about this? It was 74 dollars and now i have no money till next payday.
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j0se98i
| 1,671,412,854 | 1,671,413,545 | 18 | 402 |
Did you swipe or insert your card at any point?
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Call your cc company. They can tell you if there's a charge or a hold. If it's a charge ask for the charge to be reversed or that you want to dispute the charges. You can still try to sort things out with a hotel manager.
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zp766a
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legaladvice_train
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Hotel charged me for a night after denying my stay there? To preface I am an extremely broke college student. 19, missouri (black) I was homeless for 2 months and sleeping in my car, but this night it was supposed to be 15 degrees. It was pay day (i got 70 dollars) So i figured I could get a hotel for the night. I booked my room and went to the hotel. I was told they couldnt let me stay because of a new law that just passed saying you have to be 21 to book hotels on your own. They looked over my info again and saw that id already put my card info down, and said they could bypass the law because of that. I gave them my ID and once again the lady said "oh no since your address is in this city we cant let you stay here" I asked what she meant and she replied with this very quickly and not giving me room to speak. "We could let you stay here but since your address is here we have to charge a 250 desposit fee and its just- im sorry i cant let you stay here theres nothing i can do for you" I told her i was homeless and can pay for the room and she told me she couldnt let me stay there and there was nothing else she could do. I asked if I would be charged and she said no because she wouldnt be able to book my room. I asked if any other hotels would let me stay and she said probably not. So i went out to my car and cried. The next day i see ive been charged. I filed a refund request and it was canceled so i called them. The GM was there and said that they cant refund me because i cancelled. He said that the receptionist put in the note that i refused to pay the deposit fee and thats why it was cancelled. Thats not what happened obviously What can I do about this? It was 74 dollars and now i have no money till next payday.
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j0rm0qx
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j0rhr4k
| 1,671,401,008 | 1,671,399,219 | 203 | 43 |
A lot of hotels have CCTV with sound at reception. Perhaps you could ask the manager to review the recording.
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We’re you in position to pay the $250 deposit?
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zp766a
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legaladvice_train
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Hotel charged me for a night after denying my stay there? To preface I am an extremely broke college student. 19, missouri (black) I was homeless for 2 months and sleeping in my car, but this night it was supposed to be 15 degrees. It was pay day (i got 70 dollars) So i figured I could get a hotel for the night. I booked my room and went to the hotel. I was told they couldnt let me stay because of a new law that just passed saying you have to be 21 to book hotels on your own. They looked over my info again and saw that id already put my card info down, and said they could bypass the law because of that. I gave them my ID and once again the lady said "oh no since your address is in this city we cant let you stay here" I asked what she meant and she replied with this very quickly and not giving me room to speak. "We could let you stay here but since your address is here we have to charge a 250 desposit fee and its just- im sorry i cant let you stay here theres nothing i can do for you" I told her i was homeless and can pay for the room and she told me she couldnt let me stay there and there was nothing else she could do. I asked if I would be charged and she said no because she wouldnt be able to book my room. I asked if any other hotels would let me stay and she said probably not. So i went out to my car and cried. The next day i see ive been charged. I filed a refund request and it was canceled so i called them. The GM was there and said that they cant refund me because i cancelled. He said that the receptionist put in the note that i refused to pay the deposit fee and thats why it was cancelled. Thats not what happened obviously What can I do about this? It was 74 dollars and now i have no money till next payday.
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j0rgrzu
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j0rm0qx
| 1,671,398,819 | 1,671,401,008 | 22 | 203 |
>(black) I'm not sure what you mean by that. Are you alleging racial discrimination? >21 to book hotels on your own That's very commonplace in the hotel industry. Mostly it's a company policy, though >since your address is in this city we cant let you stay here That's also fairly standsrd in the hotel industry. Many hotels don't rent to people that live within a certain mileage of them as it sets off red flags for partying, drugs, and prostitution. As for the charge, it may just be a hold. Sometimes it might take 2-3 days for refunds to go through, especially on weekends
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A lot of hotels have CCTV with sound at reception. Perhaps you could ask the manager to review the recording.
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zp766a
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legaladvice_train
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Hotel charged me for a night after denying my stay there? To preface I am an extremely broke college student. 19, missouri (black) I was homeless for 2 months and sleeping in my car, but this night it was supposed to be 15 degrees. It was pay day (i got 70 dollars) So i figured I could get a hotel for the night. I booked my room and went to the hotel. I was told they couldnt let me stay because of a new law that just passed saying you have to be 21 to book hotels on your own. They looked over my info again and saw that id already put my card info down, and said they could bypass the law because of that. I gave them my ID and once again the lady said "oh no since your address is in this city we cant let you stay here" I asked what she meant and she replied with this very quickly and not giving me room to speak. "We could let you stay here but since your address is here we have to charge a 250 desposit fee and its just- im sorry i cant let you stay here theres nothing i can do for you" I told her i was homeless and can pay for the room and she told me she couldnt let me stay there and there was nothing else she could do. I asked if I would be charged and she said no because she wouldnt be able to book my room. I asked if any other hotels would let me stay and she said probably not. So i went out to my car and cried. The next day i see ive been charged. I filed a refund request and it was canceled so i called them. The GM was there and said that they cant refund me because i cancelled. He said that the receptionist put in the note that i refused to pay the deposit fee and thats why it was cancelled. Thats not what happened obviously What can I do about this? It was 74 dollars and now i have no money till next payday.
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j0rslgu
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j0rhr4k
| 1,671,403,841 | 1,671,399,219 | 104 | 43 |
It sounds like this should be able to be resolved with the manager. Is this a big chain where you can call corporate? Many hotels have customer service reps on social media that can escalate issues. You probably have good case to dispute the charge with your bank.
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We’re you in position to pay the $250 deposit?
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zp766a
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legaladvice_train
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Hotel charged me for a night after denying my stay there? To preface I am an extremely broke college student. 19, missouri (black) I was homeless for 2 months and sleeping in my car, but this night it was supposed to be 15 degrees. It was pay day (i got 70 dollars) So i figured I could get a hotel for the night. I booked my room and went to the hotel. I was told they couldnt let me stay because of a new law that just passed saying you have to be 21 to book hotels on your own. They looked over my info again and saw that id already put my card info down, and said they could bypass the law because of that. I gave them my ID and once again the lady said "oh no since your address is in this city we cant let you stay here" I asked what she meant and she replied with this very quickly and not giving me room to speak. "We could let you stay here but since your address is here we have to charge a 250 desposit fee and its just- im sorry i cant let you stay here theres nothing i can do for you" I told her i was homeless and can pay for the room and she told me she couldnt let me stay there and there was nothing else she could do. I asked if I would be charged and she said no because she wouldnt be able to book my room. I asked if any other hotels would let me stay and she said probably not. So i went out to my car and cried. The next day i see ive been charged. I filed a refund request and it was canceled so i called them. The GM was there and said that they cant refund me because i cancelled. He said that the receptionist put in the note that i refused to pay the deposit fee and thats why it was cancelled. Thats not what happened obviously What can I do about this? It was 74 dollars and now i have no money till next payday.
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j0rgrzu
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j0rslgu
| 1,671,398,819 | 1,671,403,841 | 22 | 104 |
>(black) I'm not sure what you mean by that. Are you alleging racial discrimination? >21 to book hotels on your own That's very commonplace in the hotel industry. Mostly it's a company policy, though >since your address is in this city we cant let you stay here That's also fairly standsrd in the hotel industry. Many hotels don't rent to people that live within a certain mileage of them as it sets off red flags for partying, drugs, and prostitution. As for the charge, it may just be a hold. Sometimes it might take 2-3 days for refunds to go through, especially on weekends
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It sounds like this should be able to be resolved with the manager. Is this a big chain where you can call corporate? Many hotels have customer service reps on social media that can escalate issues. You probably have good case to dispute the charge with your bank.
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zp766a
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Hotel charged me for a night after denying my stay there? To preface I am an extremely broke college student. 19, missouri (black) I was homeless for 2 months and sleeping in my car, but this night it was supposed to be 15 degrees. It was pay day (i got 70 dollars) So i figured I could get a hotel for the night. I booked my room and went to the hotel. I was told they couldnt let me stay because of a new law that just passed saying you have to be 21 to book hotels on your own. They looked over my info again and saw that id already put my card info down, and said they could bypass the law because of that. I gave them my ID and once again the lady said "oh no since your address is in this city we cant let you stay here" I asked what she meant and she replied with this very quickly and not giving me room to speak. "We could let you stay here but since your address is here we have to charge a 250 desposit fee and its just- im sorry i cant let you stay here theres nothing i can do for you" I told her i was homeless and can pay for the room and she told me she couldnt let me stay there and there was nothing else she could do. I asked if I would be charged and she said no because she wouldnt be able to book my room. I asked if any other hotels would let me stay and she said probably not. So i went out to my car and cried. The next day i see ive been charged. I filed a refund request and it was canceled so i called them. The GM was there and said that they cant refund me because i cancelled. He said that the receptionist put in the note that i refused to pay the deposit fee and thats why it was cancelled. Thats not what happened obviously What can I do about this? It was 74 dollars and now i have no money till next payday.
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j0rhr4k
| 1,671,398,819 | 1,671,399,219 | 22 | 43 |
>(black) I'm not sure what you mean by that. Are you alleging racial discrimination? >21 to book hotels on your own That's very commonplace in the hotel industry. Mostly it's a company policy, though >since your address is in this city we cant let you stay here That's also fairly standsrd in the hotel industry. Many hotels don't rent to people that live within a certain mileage of them as it sets off red flags for partying, drugs, and prostitution. As for the charge, it may just be a hold. Sometimes it might take 2-3 days for refunds to go through, especially on weekends
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We’re you in position to pay the $250 deposit?
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Hotel charged me for a night after denying my stay there? To preface I am an extremely broke college student. 19, missouri (black) I was homeless for 2 months and sleeping in my car, but this night it was supposed to be 15 degrees. It was pay day (i got 70 dollars) So i figured I could get a hotel for the night. I booked my room and went to the hotel. I was told they couldnt let me stay because of a new law that just passed saying you have to be 21 to book hotels on your own. They looked over my info again and saw that id already put my card info down, and said they could bypass the law because of that. I gave them my ID and once again the lady said "oh no since your address is in this city we cant let you stay here" I asked what she meant and she replied with this very quickly and not giving me room to speak. "We could let you stay here but since your address is here we have to charge a 250 desposit fee and its just- im sorry i cant let you stay here theres nothing i can do for you" I told her i was homeless and can pay for the room and she told me she couldnt let me stay there and there was nothing else she could do. I asked if I would be charged and she said no because she wouldnt be able to book my room. I asked if any other hotels would let me stay and she said probably not. So i went out to my car and cried. The next day i see ive been charged. I filed a refund request and it was canceled so i called them. The GM was there and said that they cant refund me because i cancelled. He said that the receptionist put in the note that i refused to pay the deposit fee and thats why it was cancelled. Thats not what happened obviously What can I do about this? It was 74 dollars and now i have no money till next payday.
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j0seobw
| 1,671,398,819 | 1,671,413,745 | 22 | 41 |
>(black) I'm not sure what you mean by that. Are you alleging racial discrimination? >21 to book hotels on your own That's very commonplace in the hotel industry. Mostly it's a company policy, though >since your address is in this city we cant let you stay here That's also fairly standsrd in the hotel industry. Many hotels don't rent to people that live within a certain mileage of them as it sets off red flags for partying, drugs, and prostitution. As for the charge, it may just be a hold. Sometimes it might take 2-3 days for refunds to go through, especially on weekends
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Not a lawyer but book a lot of hotels. They just don't get to keep your money. Is the hotel a chain, or did you book it on a travel website ? There should be a customer service number you can call to get your money back. Did you book with a credit card or debt card? You did not receive the service you paid for, your bank should be able to reverse the charge. Call the GM and demand your money back or your will file a small claims suit. Realistically it would cost you more to do this, but people are scared to be sued.
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zp766a
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Hotel charged me for a night after denying my stay there? To preface I am an extremely broke college student. 19, missouri (black) I was homeless for 2 months and sleeping in my car, but this night it was supposed to be 15 degrees. It was pay day (i got 70 dollars) So i figured I could get a hotel for the night. I booked my room and went to the hotel. I was told they couldnt let me stay because of a new law that just passed saying you have to be 21 to book hotels on your own. They looked over my info again and saw that id already put my card info down, and said they could bypass the law because of that. I gave them my ID and once again the lady said "oh no since your address is in this city we cant let you stay here" I asked what she meant and she replied with this very quickly and not giving me room to speak. "We could let you stay here but since your address is here we have to charge a 250 desposit fee and its just- im sorry i cant let you stay here theres nothing i can do for you" I told her i was homeless and can pay for the room and she told me she couldnt let me stay there and there was nothing else she could do. I asked if I would be charged and she said no because she wouldnt be able to book my room. I asked if any other hotels would let me stay and she said probably not. So i went out to my car and cried. The next day i see ive been charged. I filed a refund request and it was canceled so i called them. The GM was there and said that they cant refund me because i cancelled. He said that the receptionist put in the note that i refused to pay the deposit fee and thats why it was cancelled. Thats not what happened obviously What can I do about this? It was 74 dollars and now i have no money till next payday.
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j0seobw
| 1,671,412,854 | 1,671,413,745 | 18 | 41 |
Did you swipe or insert your card at any point?
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Not a lawyer but book a lot of hotels. They just don't get to keep your money. Is the hotel a chain, or did you book it on a travel website ? There should be a customer service number you can call to get your money back. Did you book with a credit card or debt card? You did not receive the service you paid for, your bank should be able to reverse the charge. Call the GM and demand your money back or your will file a small claims suit. Realistically it would cost you more to do this, but people are scared to be sued.
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zp766a
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Hotel charged me for a night after denying my stay there? To preface I am an extremely broke college student. 19, missouri (black) I was homeless for 2 months and sleeping in my car, but this night it was supposed to be 15 degrees. It was pay day (i got 70 dollars) So i figured I could get a hotel for the night. I booked my room and went to the hotel. I was told they couldnt let me stay because of a new law that just passed saying you have to be 21 to book hotels on your own. They looked over my info again and saw that id already put my card info down, and said they could bypass the law because of that. I gave them my ID and once again the lady said "oh no since your address is in this city we cant let you stay here" I asked what she meant and she replied with this very quickly and not giving me room to speak. "We could let you stay here but since your address is here we have to charge a 250 desposit fee and its just- im sorry i cant let you stay here theres nothing i can do for you" I told her i was homeless and can pay for the room and she told me she couldnt let me stay there and there was nothing else she could do. I asked if I would be charged and she said no because she wouldnt be able to book my room. I asked if any other hotels would let me stay and she said probably not. So i went out to my car and cried. The next day i see ive been charged. I filed a refund request and it was canceled so i called them. The GM was there and said that they cant refund me because i cancelled. He said that the receptionist put in the note that i refused to pay the deposit fee and thats why it was cancelled. Thats not what happened obviously What can I do about this? It was 74 dollars and now i have no money till next payday.
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j0uxyjx
| 1,671,471,186 | 1,671,468,415 | 7 | 2 |
Not a lawyer, but I work in hotel accounting. Most hotels require deposits. Local guests are considered less trustworthy for some reason, and hotels typically don't like waiving deposits for them. I think that's stupid, but they can make their own rules I guess. As for the "cancellation" fee, unfortunately most hotels also have a policy that you are considered a cancellation/no-show if you don't check in, regardless of reason. Some managers are nastier than others—some might waive it to be nice, others will stick to their guns to make a buck. It can be a little ruthless, unfortunately. We've had plenty of people cancel due to family deaths and illness, and my manager (thankfully) approves refunds as a one-time exception. However, *technically*, the policy is you pay for the room no matter what. Did you book online or over the phone? Were you made aware of the deposit? A lot of hotel websites bury that at the bottom of the webpage, which is kind of sleazy. If it wasn't on the website, or you called and weren't informed, I would try to get a hold of the property manager (not a supervisor, but the general manager or owner), and see if they'll make an exception. If you were informed, even by some tiny website print, you can still ask them, but you may be met with "oh well it's on our website!" You can try disputing it with your CC company, but if they can prove that they did warn you in advance, it's likely to be rejected. I'm really sorry that happened to you. I understand hotels needing to have rules in place to avoid scams and room-trashers, but it's those types of people that make it feel impossible to just get a warm bed for people who have good intentions. Hang in there, man.
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I’ve heard of hotels that restrict locals that have restrictions on locals due to human trafficking/sex work prevention
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My boyfriend and I broke up. He lives in a house I own, and he pays me rent. There is no written contract, and he is being difficult about leaving. What can I do? Hi! As the post says, I’m looking for some advice. My boyfriend (44m) and I (39f) have reached a point where our relationship is no longer healthy, and we need to go our separate ways. He moved in with me Nov, 2020. We have been together since February of 2020. I “own” my home (meaning I have a 30 yr mortgage). I have been in my home since June of 2011 and have a steady, sufficient income to be independent. He won’t leave. He says he doesn’t have to, as he ignorantly (I think?) cited some squatter laws. He has paid rent in time since he moved in, except for two months when he was out of a job. There is no written contract or lease. We live in South Carolina. Do I need to file for eviction? I know I can research the process, so I don’t need help there, but I’m really trying to find out if that is my only option. I would love to amicably agree to a timeline, but I’m fearful that if I do that, when the time is up, we’ll start this all over again. Any advice is appreciated!
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ig2ra5r
| 1,657,783,869 | 1,657,765,199 | 46 | 35 |
Someone's already given you the 'written notice' advice which is definitely the right place to start, I just want to chime in and add that you should *not* resort to 'self-help.' Landlords that change the locks on tenants, even in situations like this where there's interpersonal stuff going on, do not get treated kindly by the courts.
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Here is an overview of the process. Do not cut corners, and document everything. Use certified mail. * https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/the-eviction-process-south-carolina-rules-landlords-property-managers.html * https://www.scbar.org/public/get-legal-help/common-legal-topics/eviction/ * https://www.landlordguidance.com/eviction-notice-forms/south-carolina-eviction/
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My girlfriend of five years broke up with me 2 days ago, she then refused to give me back my dog that I paid for, when I tried to take him her dad then threatened me and he has cameras in his house which record audio. Anything I can do or should I just walk away?
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etsl3ju
| 1,563,152,906 | 1,563,148,470 | 24 | 8 |
You can sue to get the dog back. What you'll need to sue for is a "Writ of Replevin" rather than the value of the dog. Whether you can do this in small claims court depends on jurisdiction; otherwise, you'd have to involve a lawyer. If you are able to do this in small claims court, then, in court, you would show records that support that its your dog, such as your payment to buy the dog, vet bills, dog food bills/receipts, vet records that list you as the owner, etc. You would also attest that the dog was not a gift to your ex. Dress well, be professional, don't interrupt others, and, if you've presented your side better than your ex did, the judge ought to rule in your favor. Good luck in getting your dog back!
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Was the dog a gift to her? If so, no Do you have proof you bought the dog? If you do, and it's not a gift, then you might be able to get it back. You would need to probably sue her in small claims court where she could claim you gave it to her as a gift.
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My best friend just got this email from her landlord, is this legal? (TLDR landlord who does not live on site threatens to evict my friend for not cleaning her room regularly enough)(Colorado, USA) Hello Everyone, I don't like sending emails like this one but there is an issue that needs to be addressed and I want documentation of it. While working on the projects at the house the last couple days I've had my people and outside contractors' comment on the condition of the house. The complaint was made that the house common areas were too dirty, and I agree with that complaint. They had to stop working on the projects they were here to help with to clean up after you. Some of the issues raised were: 1. Boxes of personal property left in common areas 2. Mail and plants left on the nook table 3. Dirty dishes left in the sink 4. Lack of cleaning in the common areas 5. Dog poop left in the yard Remember, in each of your leases it says you are to keep the house in a clean and showable condition. It is your responsibility to clean the house inside and out AS WELL AS YOUR ROOMS. So here's my solution. I will give you all 2-3 weeks (next time I return to the house in November) to address the issues and get into the habit of cleaning regularly. When I come back in November if the house is not cleaned and maintained to my satisfaction I am going to decide what property is going to be stored and may have to throw things away as needed to make room. I will also be hiring a cleaning company to maintain the house and you all will be charged the cost. If the problems continue after that I will begin the eviction process for those at fault. I don't want to do that to you guys so let's not get to that point. Help each other out, make a plan to clean and be responsible. I don't ask a lot of you guys but this is something I'm serious about. We stocked some cleaning items, the rest you will have to buy. If you guys cannot find space to store something in the house you will have to rent a storage unit, sell it, or donate it. We already have most daily items in use in the house already. If you have questions or need guidance on what needs to be done just ask me. Additionally, FOR THE NEXT 48 HOURS THE DECK AND DEN WILL BE OFF LIMITS FOR PAINTING. If you need to access the backyard the next two days use the side door, garage door or one of the fences. Also, we cleaned and organized the garage. You guys can park in the space by the work bench but are not to store anything in that spot or the path to the door. Let me know if you have any questions,
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Hi there! I’m the LegalFAQ bot. It looks like you may be experiencing housing issues related to housing or eviction. Come to https://legalfaq.org to find legal resources for renters in each state. You can also find links to local groups that can help you with legal, financial, or other problems at https://legalfaq.org/getHelp. Help us provide accurate advice to fellow redditors: if your post was related to housing or eviction, please like this comment; otherwise, please dislike this comment. *v0.1*
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If she’s not complying with her lease she can be evicted. I’m incredibly doubtful that he can hire a cleaning company and force her to pay for it, but he could probably push forward with an eviction if she’s unwilling to play ball. He probably shouldn’t throw away their property, if their property is positioned in such a way as to violate the lease, he should give them notice and evict.
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[California] My aunt is about to close on the sale of her house while living in medi-cal long term care. She was led to believe she could "gift" the proceeds from the sale of the house to family members (son & sister) without triggering a loss of her benefits. All of this was presented as an alternative to transferring the house into a trust prior to the sale. I know she needs to report the income from the sale but looking for info on managing the spend down of the assets.
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dny5yon
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She should have transferred the property into a Trust before it was sold. She would then "resign" as Trustee and whoever is named successor trustee would step in and sell the property, using the proceeds in the manner set forth by the Trust (most likely for Aunt's care and welfare during her lifetime with the residue going to son and sister at death). At this point she is out of options and any attempt to hide the money will be construed as fraud.
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You need an attorney. Much of this "gifting" might be subjected to a five year look back period. And, even if she is able to spend it down, at minimum she may lose benefits for a month. (though that might be able to be waived). This is all state specific stuff, of which I am just speaking in generalities based on the state that I am familiar with. Bottom line here: She's on a thin line with this idea, and needs an attorney.
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Community manager keeps trying to send people into my apartment without notice. I live in New Jersey and I rent a unit in an apartment complex. My community manager has repeatedly tried to send maintenance and exterminators into my apartment without giving any sort of notice. I'm well aware that notice isn't required if it's an emergency, but it has never been an emergency. It's always something routine that they had ample time to notify me of, like routine extermination, fire alarm checks, etc. On more than one occasion I have woken up to several people inside my apartment, they didn't even knock, just let themselves in. As a 20 year old woman it's terrifying to wake up to several grown men whom I don't know inside my apartment. What can I do?
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itvmogw
| 1,666,799,606 | 1,666,804,376 | 214 | 463 |
Please a lock on your door that can only be unlocked from the inside to prevent people from entering when you are home. Either a sliding door bolt attached to the door frame or, if your landlord won't allow you to install a lock, a "door security bar" that can be set in place without permanent attachment.
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NJ requires property managers to be licensed by the state realtor board. Call the office and ask who the licensed manager on site is. Once you have a name, file an ethics complaint against their license with the realtor board. Include as many specific details like dates, times, number of people, whether they knocked or not, and work/inspection that was done. These are their workers, even if they were not there, they are responsible for their conduct. If it's a big corporate place, I'd search the corporation records in your state and attempt to find someone very high up in the food chain at the organization. If you can't find a name, send a letter with a copy of your complaint to the corporate office to "compliance officer." Say just FYI your managers are breaking the law. It's possible these local idiots are just running amok and that management doesn't know what they're doing. Also someone in this sub once had a maintenance man arrested for trespassing for doing this, so, next time that happens make a police report. You can call a non-emergency number after the fact and make a report. I'd also stick up a camera inside, or set up a webcam on your computer to record audio and video, so it shows that they didn't even knock. You could even call today (non-emergency number) and say you want to make a trespassing report for an incident last week or whatever. They may not act on an old report but you never know. At least you'll have a record for your files, if you need to break the lease because of this, more documentation and support is better than less.
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ydywkx
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Community manager keeps trying to send people into my apartment without notice. I live in New Jersey and I rent a unit in an apartment complex. My community manager has repeatedly tried to send maintenance and exterminators into my apartment without giving any sort of notice. I'm well aware that notice isn't required if it's an emergency, but it has never been an emergency. It's always something routine that they had ample time to notify me of, like routine extermination, fire alarm checks, etc. On more than one occasion I have woken up to several people inside my apartment, they didn't even knock, just let themselves in. As a 20 year old woman it's terrifying to wake up to several grown men whom I don't know inside my apartment. What can I do?
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ituv79h
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NJ requires property managers to be licensed by the state realtor board. Call the office and ask who the licensed manager on site is. Once you have a name, file an ethics complaint against their license with the realtor board. Include as many specific details like dates, times, number of people, whether they knocked or not, and work/inspection that was done. These are their workers, even if they were not there, they are responsible for their conduct. If it's a big corporate place, I'd search the corporation records in your state and attempt to find someone very high up in the food chain at the organization. If you can't find a name, send a letter with a copy of your complaint to the corporate office to "compliance officer." Say just FYI your managers are breaking the law. It's possible these local idiots are just running amok and that management doesn't know what they're doing. Also someone in this sub once had a maintenance man arrested for trespassing for doing this, so, next time that happens make a police report. You can call a non-emergency number after the fact and make a report. I'd also stick up a camera inside, or set up a webcam on your computer to record audio and video, so it shows that they didn't even knock. You could even call today (non-emergency number) and say you want to make a trespassing report for an incident last week or whatever. They may not act on an old report but you never know. At least you'll have a record for your files, if you need to break the lease because of this, more documentation and support is better than less.
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Nj has some of the best laws about landlord entering (in this case the maintenance and pest are the landlord.). Though practically you solve this with a conversation with the landlord and reminding them of your rights about notice. If you want legal recourse you’re looking at penalty free breaking the lease. Being a young woman doesn’t matter here. Old males are in the same boat.
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