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ydywkx
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Community manager keeps trying to send people into my apartment without notice. I live in New Jersey and I rent a unit in an apartment complex. My community manager has repeatedly tried to send maintenance and exterminators into my apartment without giving any sort of notice. I'm well aware that notice isn't required if it's an emergency, but it has never been an emergency. It's always something routine that they had ample time to notify me of, like routine extermination, fire alarm checks, etc. On more than one occasion I have woken up to several people inside my apartment, they didn't even knock, just let themselves in. As a 20 year old woman it's terrifying to wake up to several grown men whom I don't know inside my apartment. What can I do?
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itvagip
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ituv79h
| 1,666,799,606 | 1,666,793,424 | 214 | 118 |
Please a lock on your door that can only be unlocked from the inside to prevent people from entering when you are home. Either a sliding door bolt attached to the door frame or, if your landlord won't allow you to install a lock, a "door security bar" that can be set in place without permanent attachment.
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Nj has some of the best laws about landlord entering (in this case the maintenance and pest are the landlord.). Though practically you solve this with a conversation with the landlord and reminding them of your rights about notice. If you want legal recourse you’re looking at penalty free breaking the lease. Being a young woman doesn’t matter here. Old males are in the same boat.
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ydywkx
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Community manager keeps trying to send people into my apartment without notice. I live in New Jersey and I rent a unit in an apartment complex. My community manager has repeatedly tried to send maintenance and exterminators into my apartment without giving any sort of notice. I'm well aware that notice isn't required if it's an emergency, but it has never been an emergency. It's always something routine that they had ample time to notify me of, like routine extermination, fire alarm checks, etc. On more than one occasion I have woken up to several people inside my apartment, they didn't even knock, just let themselves in. As a 20 year old woman it's terrifying to wake up to several grown men whom I don't know inside my apartment. What can I do?
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itwwu1r
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itws4xk
| 1,666,822,145 | 1,666,820,229 | 47 | 46 |
OP, what they are doing is illegal. As someone else mentioned, start documenting each time this happens, and try to recall the dates this has happened previously and the reason why they claimed it was so important they enter without notice. It sounds like the office is playing stupid and expecting you not to know your rights. I would be scared out of my mind if anyone, much less several strange men, had come into my apartment without notice. I would be furious, too. This is so wrong and should not be happening. I don’t know if they are trying to intimidate you, but that is the effect of these illegal entries into your home. My apartment has tried similar nonsense in the past, and I let them know it was illegal and they would not be allowed inside without proper notice. They were aware that I knew my rights, but they still tried to show up and do things with no notice. I started to get really worried that they would try to come in when they shouldn’t, so I got a couple of things to make it so they could not get inside. I got a cheap, rubber door wedge (I think it was from Walmart), and I wedge it under the door really well, and I make sure it’s in place before I go to bed. I also have the metal door brace that you put under the door handle, and no one can get in when it is in place. I sleep a lot better knowing the door is secure. Once I was home during the day and I had just taken a shower. Even though it was daytime, I had still put the door brace in place against the door out of habit. I’m so glad I did because I heard noise at the door right after I got out of the shower. I threw on a robe and went to the door only to find that the maintenance guy and some strange man were trying to get in. There was no emergency and there was no door knock or anything. Maintenance had unlocked my door knob lock and dead bolt and was trying to come in/push open the door with no notice. The door brace prevented this from happening, thank goodness. I was so mad. I told them off through the door and told them to go away. The reason they were trying to come in was a joke. If you shore up your door, you should hopefully get some peace of mind while you try to find somewhere else to live. They won’t be able to get in anymore while you are there. Good luck to you and stay strong!
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If the apartment is entering for a non-emergency purpose without notice, they are trespassing, and if you are damaged as a result, the apartment can be liable for trespass. This could be leverage in negotiating a termination of your lease. It might be worth a consultation fee to speak to a landlord tenant lawyer to better understand your rights in this situation.
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ydywkx
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Community manager keeps trying to send people into my apartment without notice. I live in New Jersey and I rent a unit in an apartment complex. My community manager has repeatedly tried to send maintenance and exterminators into my apartment without giving any sort of notice. I'm well aware that notice isn't required if it's an emergency, but it has never been an emergency. It's always something routine that they had ample time to notify me of, like routine extermination, fire alarm checks, etc. On more than one occasion I have woken up to several people inside my apartment, they didn't even knock, just let themselves in. As a 20 year old woman it's terrifying to wake up to several grown men whom I don't know inside my apartment. What can I do?
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itwrnb9
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itws4xk
| 1,666,820,030 | 1,666,820,229 | 11 | 46 |
Prop a chair up against the door under the handle. They won’t be able to get in until the chair is removed.
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If the apartment is entering for a non-emergency purpose without notice, they are trespassing, and if you are damaged as a result, the apartment can be liable for trespass. This could be leverage in negotiating a termination of your lease. It might be worth a consultation fee to speak to a landlord tenant lawyer to better understand your rights in this situation.
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ydywkx
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legaladvice_train
| 0.97 |
Community manager keeps trying to send people into my apartment without notice. I live in New Jersey and I rent a unit in an apartment complex. My community manager has repeatedly tried to send maintenance and exterminators into my apartment without giving any sort of notice. I'm well aware that notice isn't required if it's an emergency, but it has never been an emergency. It's always something routine that they had ample time to notify me of, like routine extermination, fire alarm checks, etc. On more than one occasion I have woken up to several people inside my apartment, they didn't even knock, just let themselves in. As a 20 year old woman it's terrifying to wake up to several grown men whom I don't know inside my apartment. What can I do?
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itws4xk
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itwo1x9
| 1,666,820,229 | 1,666,818,586 | 46 | 5 |
If the apartment is entering for a non-emergency purpose without notice, they are trespassing, and if you are damaged as a result, the apartment can be liable for trespass. This could be leverage in negotiating a termination of your lease. It might be worth a consultation fee to speak to a landlord tenant lawyer to better understand your rights in this situation.
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Send an email, phone and other conversations can be denied. Buy one of those cheap chain locks and install it. Also follow the advise about registering complaints with management and governing bodies in writing!
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ydywkx
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legaladvice_train
| 0.97 |
Community manager keeps trying to send people into my apartment without notice. I live in New Jersey and I rent a unit in an apartment complex. My community manager has repeatedly tried to send maintenance and exterminators into my apartment without giving any sort of notice. I'm well aware that notice isn't required if it's an emergency, but it has never been an emergency. It's always something routine that they had ample time to notify me of, like routine extermination, fire alarm checks, etc. On more than one occasion I have woken up to several people inside my apartment, they didn't even knock, just let themselves in. As a 20 year old woman it's terrifying to wake up to several grown men whom I don't know inside my apartment. What can I do?
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itwrnb9
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itwwu1r
| 1,666,820,030 | 1,666,822,145 | 11 | 47 |
Prop a chair up against the door under the handle. They won’t be able to get in until the chair is removed.
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OP, what they are doing is illegal. As someone else mentioned, start documenting each time this happens, and try to recall the dates this has happened previously and the reason why they claimed it was so important they enter without notice. It sounds like the office is playing stupid and expecting you not to know your rights. I would be scared out of my mind if anyone, much less several strange men, had come into my apartment without notice. I would be furious, too. This is so wrong and should not be happening. I don’t know if they are trying to intimidate you, but that is the effect of these illegal entries into your home. My apartment has tried similar nonsense in the past, and I let them know it was illegal and they would not be allowed inside without proper notice. They were aware that I knew my rights, but they still tried to show up and do things with no notice. I started to get really worried that they would try to come in when they shouldn’t, so I got a couple of things to make it so they could not get inside. I got a cheap, rubber door wedge (I think it was from Walmart), and I wedge it under the door really well, and I make sure it’s in place before I go to bed. I also have the metal door brace that you put under the door handle, and no one can get in when it is in place. I sleep a lot better knowing the door is secure. Once I was home during the day and I had just taken a shower. Even though it was daytime, I had still put the door brace in place against the door out of habit. I’m so glad I did because I heard noise at the door right after I got out of the shower. I threw on a robe and went to the door only to find that the maintenance guy and some strange man were trying to get in. There was no emergency and there was no door knock or anything. Maintenance had unlocked my door knob lock and dead bolt and was trying to come in/push open the door with no notice. The door brace prevented this from happening, thank goodness. I was so mad. I told them off through the door and told them to go away. The reason they were trying to come in was a joke. If you shore up your door, you should hopefully get some peace of mind while you try to find somewhere else to live. They won’t be able to get in anymore while you are there. Good luck to you and stay strong!
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ydywkx
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legaladvice_train
| 0.97 |
Community manager keeps trying to send people into my apartment without notice. I live in New Jersey and I rent a unit in an apartment complex. My community manager has repeatedly tried to send maintenance and exterminators into my apartment without giving any sort of notice. I'm well aware that notice isn't required if it's an emergency, but it has never been an emergency. It's always something routine that they had ample time to notify me of, like routine extermination, fire alarm checks, etc. On more than one occasion I have woken up to several people inside my apartment, they didn't even knock, just let themselves in. As a 20 year old woman it's terrifying to wake up to several grown men whom I don't know inside my apartment. What can I do?
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itwo1x9
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itwwu1r
| 1,666,818,586 | 1,666,822,145 | 5 | 47 |
Send an email, phone and other conversations can be denied. Buy one of those cheap chain locks and install it. Also follow the advise about registering complaints with management and governing bodies in writing!
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OP, what they are doing is illegal. As someone else mentioned, start documenting each time this happens, and try to recall the dates this has happened previously and the reason why they claimed it was so important they enter without notice. It sounds like the office is playing stupid and expecting you not to know your rights. I would be scared out of my mind if anyone, much less several strange men, had come into my apartment without notice. I would be furious, too. This is so wrong and should not be happening. I don’t know if they are trying to intimidate you, but that is the effect of these illegal entries into your home. My apartment has tried similar nonsense in the past, and I let them know it was illegal and they would not be allowed inside without proper notice. They were aware that I knew my rights, but they still tried to show up and do things with no notice. I started to get really worried that they would try to come in when they shouldn’t, so I got a couple of things to make it so they could not get inside. I got a cheap, rubber door wedge (I think it was from Walmart), and I wedge it under the door really well, and I make sure it’s in place before I go to bed. I also have the metal door brace that you put under the door handle, and no one can get in when it is in place. I sleep a lot better knowing the door is secure. Once I was home during the day and I had just taken a shower. Even though it was daytime, I had still put the door brace in place against the door out of habit. I’m so glad I did because I heard noise at the door right after I got out of the shower. I threw on a robe and went to the door only to find that the maintenance guy and some strange man were trying to get in. There was no emergency and there was no door knock or anything. Maintenance had unlocked my door knob lock and dead bolt and was trying to come in/push open the door with no notice. The door brace prevented this from happening, thank goodness. I was so mad. I told them off through the door and told them to go away. The reason they were trying to come in was a joke. If you shore up your door, you should hopefully get some peace of mind while you try to find somewhere else to live. They won’t be able to get in anymore while you are there. Good luck to you and stay strong!
| 0 | 3,559 | 9.4 |
ydywkx
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legaladvice_train
| 0.97 |
Community manager keeps trying to send people into my apartment without notice. I live in New Jersey and I rent a unit in an apartment complex. My community manager has repeatedly tried to send maintenance and exterminators into my apartment without giving any sort of notice. I'm well aware that notice isn't required if it's an emergency, but it has never been an emergency. It's always something routine that they had ample time to notify me of, like routine extermination, fire alarm checks, etc. On more than one occasion I have woken up to several people inside my apartment, they didn't even knock, just let themselves in. As a 20 year old woman it's terrifying to wake up to several grown men whom I don't know inside my apartment. What can I do?
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itwrnb9
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itwo1x9
| 1,666,820,030 | 1,666,818,586 | 11 | 5 |
Prop a chair up against the door under the handle. They won’t be able to get in until the chair is removed.
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Send an email, phone and other conversations can be denied. Buy one of those cheap chain locks and install it. Also follow the advise about registering complaints with management and governing bodies in writing!
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ztrnmr
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Mother in laws ex husband keeps subpoena-ing my wife to go to court for their divorce hearings. So here we are the day before Christmas Eve and a us Marshal knocks on my door and is given papers to appear in court. My loser mother in law has been dealing with her even bigger loser ex husband for about six years, and every time he gets sick of paying the alimony and child support he opens up a new case/claim or whatever and summons basically my wife’s entire family to court. My wife was 26 when they met, she never lived with him nor considered him a father type figure. It’s ridiculous that he keeps pulling this, and we have three kids and I’m a sole provider so it keeps being done to be as big an inconvenience as possible. But my mother in law makes no money so she refuses to drop it as she needs that extra income. The whole situation is awful and embarrassing and I’m curious about my legal rights when it’s clearly harassment and meant to ruin my holiday and waste my time. Are there ways to get out of a subpoena or are you just screwed because you married into a family of nightmare people. Thanks for any info.
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j1ex8xu
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j1ex7qc
| 1,671,827,140 | 1,671,827,126 | 297 | 137 |
It's called "quashing" the subpoena. Talk with a lawyer.
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> But my mother in law makes no money so she refuses to drop it as she needs that extra income. How does issuing a subpoena to your wife generate income? And it's not "extra" income, it's base income. > Are there ways to get out of a subpoena Absolutely. Hire a lawyer to quash. And make it so that they cannot refile.
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xgg119
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[UT] Looking for an apartment, realtor wants me to send in a picture of myself and my family in order to tell us how much the application fee will be. Hi everyone, looking for advice on this situation. As the title says, my family (wife and daughter) and I are looking for an apartment in Orem, Utah. We found one that looks great and decided we wanted to fill out an application (I know, really risky to apply to an apartment without touring it first, but we're on a tight time frame). I sent the listed contact a text asking about getting a link to the application for the unit to which he responded with two questions: Who would be the tenants and when are we looking to move in. No problem there. I texted him the info and he replied saying we need to schedule an appointment to tour the place with him before applying. I told him that we would like to skip the tour and are willing to apply without seeing the unit first, and also asked him HOW MUCH the application fee was. To this, he replied that "if we're skipping the tour, we would need to send in a PICTURE of all intended tenants BEFORE he can tell us how much the application fee is. Needless to say this IMMEDIATELY did/does not sit well with my wife and myself and we're more likely than not going to look for a different place. HOWEVER, before we completely bail on this one, I still would like some advice on how to proceed with this. Is there something shady going on here that we need to report to somewhere/someone? Or is there a LEGITIMATE reason for why a picture of us would be needed to simply TELL US how much the application fee is/send us an application? Thanks in advanced everyone.
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iortfeo
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iorrfkr
| 1,663,401,674 | 1,663,400,070 | 231 | 4 |
Since you don't want to see the place before applying, I suspect that the landlord / manager of the apartment is questioning whether or not you are some kind of scammer, as opposed to an actual family looking for an apartment.
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xgg119
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[UT] Looking for an apartment, realtor wants me to send in a picture of myself and my family in order to tell us how much the application fee will be. Hi everyone, looking for advice on this situation. As the title says, my family (wife and daughter) and I are looking for an apartment in Orem, Utah. We found one that looks great and decided we wanted to fill out an application (I know, really risky to apply to an apartment without touring it first, but we're on a tight time frame). I sent the listed contact a text asking about getting a link to the application for the unit to which he responded with two questions: Who would be the tenants and when are we looking to move in. No problem there. I texted him the info and he replied saying we need to schedule an appointment to tour the place with him before applying. I told him that we would like to skip the tour and are willing to apply without seeing the unit first, and also asked him HOW MUCH the application fee was. To this, he replied that "if we're skipping the tour, we would need to send in a PICTURE of all intended tenants BEFORE he can tell us how much the application fee is. Needless to say this IMMEDIATELY did/does not sit well with my wife and myself and we're more likely than not going to look for a different place. HOWEVER, before we completely bail on this one, I still would like some advice on how to proceed with this. Is there something shady going on here that we need to report to somewhere/someone? Or is there a LEGITIMATE reason for why a picture of us would be needed to simply TELL US how much the application fee is/send us an application? Thanks in advanced everyone.
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iotsiee
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iorrfkr
| 1,663,439,448 | 1,663,400,070 | 134 | 4 |
Does sound like they use the walkthrough to potentially discriminate against potential renters and this is a fallback for that opportunity being removed. This is for Utah Fair Housing. https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title57/Chapter21/57-21.html This page has a walkthrough of information and how to file a discrimination charge with UALD. https://laborcommission.utah.gov/divisions/utah-antidiscrimination-and-labor-uald/fair-housing/
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xgg119
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[UT] Looking for an apartment, realtor wants me to send in a picture of myself and my family in order to tell us how much the application fee will be. Hi everyone, looking for advice on this situation. As the title says, my family (wife and daughter) and I are looking for an apartment in Orem, Utah. We found one that looks great and decided we wanted to fill out an application (I know, really risky to apply to an apartment without touring it first, but we're on a tight time frame). I sent the listed contact a text asking about getting a link to the application for the unit to which he responded with two questions: Who would be the tenants and when are we looking to move in. No problem there. I texted him the info and he replied saying we need to schedule an appointment to tour the place with him before applying. I told him that we would like to skip the tour and are willing to apply without seeing the unit first, and also asked him HOW MUCH the application fee was. To this, he replied that "if we're skipping the tour, we would need to send in a PICTURE of all intended tenants BEFORE he can tell us how much the application fee is. Needless to say this IMMEDIATELY did/does not sit well with my wife and myself and we're more likely than not going to look for a different place. HOWEVER, before we completely bail on this one, I still would like some advice on how to proceed with this. Is there something shady going on here that we need to report to somewhere/someone? Or is there a LEGITIMATE reason for why a picture of us would be needed to simply TELL US how much the application fee is/send us an application? Thanks in advanced everyone.
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ioupmcf
| 1,663,447,506 | 1,663,453,738 | 11 | 35 |
If you don’t tour, how do they know that the person who applies and provides the information on the application they’re accepting is the person who shows up and signs the lease (ie. will follow the terms of the lease) Although, it does sound like it could just as easily be discrimination
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I would suspect this is for discriminatory purposes. I worked in Orem Utah for a guy who rented out several properties. He refused to rent to any families of color. On one application that I gave him for prospective tenants, he said no. I asked why and he pointed to their names. At this point there probably is not much you could do because you aren’t a tenant and are still in the application process. I’m am an attorney, but not an attorney in Utah. This is general, Utah could possibly have a specific law regarding the refusal to rent to a tenant over race, the problem is proving it.
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xgg119
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[UT] Looking for an apartment, realtor wants me to send in a picture of myself and my family in order to tell us how much the application fee will be. Hi everyone, looking for advice on this situation. As the title says, my family (wife and daughter) and I are looking for an apartment in Orem, Utah. We found one that looks great and decided we wanted to fill out an application (I know, really risky to apply to an apartment without touring it first, but we're on a tight time frame). I sent the listed contact a text asking about getting a link to the application for the unit to which he responded with two questions: Who would be the tenants and when are we looking to move in. No problem there. I texted him the info and he replied saying we need to schedule an appointment to tour the place with him before applying. I told him that we would like to skip the tour and are willing to apply without seeing the unit first, and also asked him HOW MUCH the application fee was. To this, he replied that "if we're skipping the tour, we would need to send in a PICTURE of all intended tenants BEFORE he can tell us how much the application fee is. Needless to say this IMMEDIATELY did/does not sit well with my wife and myself and we're more likely than not going to look for a different place. HOWEVER, before we completely bail on this one, I still would like some advice on how to proceed with this. Is there something shady going on here that we need to report to somewhere/someone? Or is there a LEGITIMATE reason for why a picture of us would be needed to simply TELL US how much the application fee is/send us an application? Thanks in advanced everyone.
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ioupmcf
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I would suspect this is for discriminatory purposes. I worked in Orem Utah for a guy who rented out several properties. He refused to rent to any families of color. On one application that I gave him for prospective tenants, he said no. I asked why and he pointed to their names. At this point there probably is not much you could do because you aren’t a tenant and are still in the application process. I’m am an attorney, but not an attorney in Utah. This is general, Utah could possibly have a specific law regarding the refusal to rent to a tenant over race, the problem is proving it.
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[UT] Looking for an apartment, realtor wants me to send in a picture of myself and my family in order to tell us how much the application fee will be. Hi everyone, looking for advice on this situation. As the title says, my family (wife and daughter) and I are looking for an apartment in Orem, Utah. We found one that looks great and decided we wanted to fill out an application (I know, really risky to apply to an apartment without touring it first, but we're on a tight time frame). I sent the listed contact a text asking about getting a link to the application for the unit to which he responded with two questions: Who would be the tenants and when are we looking to move in. No problem there. I texted him the info and he replied saying we need to schedule an appointment to tour the place with him before applying. I told him that we would like to skip the tour and are willing to apply without seeing the unit first, and also asked him HOW MUCH the application fee was. To this, he replied that "if we're skipping the tour, we would need to send in a PICTURE of all intended tenants BEFORE he can tell us how much the application fee is. Needless to say this IMMEDIATELY did/does not sit well with my wife and myself and we're more likely than not going to look for a different place. HOWEVER, before we completely bail on this one, I still would like some advice on how to proceed with this. Is there something shady going on here that we need to report to somewhere/someone? Or is there a LEGITIMATE reason for why a picture of us would be needed to simply TELL US how much the application fee is/send us an application? Thanks in advanced everyone.
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If you don’t tour, how do they know that the person who applies and provides the information on the application they’re accepting is the person who shows up and signs the lease (ie. will follow the terms of the lease) Although, it does sound like it could just as easily be discrimination
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u6nhcc
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Grandma keeps threatening to send police to my door if I don’t respond to her She calls me once or twice a day and I haven’t answered in a week, she lives in Kentucky and I live in Washington state, I haven’t been responding because she’s really disturbing and harassing me at this point and it’s only been a week, she keeps saying in texts and voicemails she’s gonna send police to my door if I don’t respond, what can I do? And will cops show up if she tells them to?
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i59k0i6
| 1,650,315,810 | 1,650,320,248 | 17 | 25 |
I mean, they may do a “wellness check” just to make sure you’re alright, but I mean they aren’t going to do anything to you
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You can call the police non-emergency line and let them know to expect a welfare check call from your crazy grandmother. Cops really don't like having their time wasted. You might as well get out in front of it.
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Grandma keeps threatening to send police to my door if I don’t respond to her She calls me once or twice a day and I haven’t answered in a week, she lives in Kentucky and I live in Washington state, I haven’t been responding because she’s really disturbing and harassing me at this point and it’s only been a week, she keeps saying in texts and voicemails she’s gonna send police to my door if I don’t respond, what can I do? And will cops show up if she tells them to?
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i59a4lb
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You can call the police non-emergency line and let them know to expect a welfare check call from your crazy grandmother. Cops really don't like having their time wasted. You might as well get out in front of it.
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Block her number and ignore her. If the police come for a welfare check, tell them you're fine.
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ypyrwg
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legaladvice_train
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We won a restraining order and legal fees of $8k against our neighbor. He’s now claiming financial hardship to get out of paying. We heard that he plans to move all his money to Canadian accounts to make himself look broke. Is that legal? Should we report him to the IRS/IA? He lives rent free with his elderly parents and went as far as to transfer his truck to his dad (who can’t drive) to say he doesn’t own anything. He’s also now claiming he’s unemployed instead of retired. Anything to get out of paying. I can’t afford any more attorneys fees. I couldn’t afford these ones but our safety, and our baby’s safety, forced the issue. Who can I report all this too?
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ivndhgt
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ivnxmbj
| 1,667,971,799 | 1,667,987,242 | 13 | 43 |
Not a lawyer call the clerk of court office and ask about filing to garnish future wages.
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If your neighbor has transferred the title of his vehicle or attempts to transfer money to a bank outside of the US, all of that leaves a paper trail. These actions are known as fraudulent transfers or conveyances, and are an attempt to defraud creditors. Speak with your attorney. This is something that can be pursued. If your neighbor did, in fact, transfer an asset (the car) to his parent/s to avoid payment, and if that vehicle has a value that would satisfy the court ordered judgment, you might be able to pursue a claim (sue) against the recipient of the asset. Again, speak with your attorney. Your neighbor thinks he’s being slick, but he’s not. He’s leaving a paper trail, and should be able to be proven through acquiring paper copies of the actions.
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ypyrwg
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legaladvice_train
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We won a restraining order and legal fees of $8k against our neighbor. He’s now claiming financial hardship to get out of paying. We heard that he plans to move all his money to Canadian accounts to make himself look broke. Is that legal? Should we report him to the IRS/IA? He lives rent free with his elderly parents and went as far as to transfer his truck to his dad (who can’t drive) to say he doesn’t own anything. He’s also now claiming he’s unemployed instead of retired. Anything to get out of paying. I can’t afford any more attorneys fees. I couldn’t afford these ones but our safety, and our baby’s safety, forced the issue. Who can I report all this too?
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ivnwovf
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ivnxmbj
| 1,667,986,402 | 1,667,987,242 | 11 | 43 |
There’s a thing called “judgment proof,” which is what happens when someone who owes money can’t be subject to collection. It sounds like that’s the deal with this guy. He doesn’t have wages to garnish or real property in his name. It’s always tenuous, trying to garnish bank accounts, but it sounds like he doesn’t have that. You could hire a lawyer who specializes in collections, but you’ll pay them direct, and it could be money better spent on lottery tickets. I’m just going off what you said in your post, but it sounds like you paid $8k for a restraining order.
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If your neighbor has transferred the title of his vehicle or attempts to transfer money to a bank outside of the US, all of that leaves a paper trail. These actions are known as fraudulent transfers or conveyances, and are an attempt to defraud creditors. Speak with your attorney. This is something that can be pursued. If your neighbor did, in fact, transfer an asset (the car) to his parent/s to avoid payment, and if that vehicle has a value that would satisfy the court ordered judgment, you might be able to pursue a claim (sue) against the recipient of the asset. Again, speak with your attorney. Your neighbor thinks he’s being slick, but he’s not. He’s leaving a paper trail, and should be able to be proven through acquiring paper copies of the actions.
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ypyrwg
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legaladvice_train
| 0.99 |
We won a restraining order and legal fees of $8k against our neighbor. He’s now claiming financial hardship to get out of paying. We heard that he plans to move all his money to Canadian accounts to make himself look broke. Is that legal? Should we report him to the IRS/IA? He lives rent free with his elderly parents and went as far as to transfer his truck to his dad (who can’t drive) to say he doesn’t own anything. He’s also now claiming he’s unemployed instead of retired. Anything to get out of paying. I can’t afford any more attorneys fees. I couldn’t afford these ones but our safety, and our baby’s safety, forced the issue. Who can I report all this too?
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ivnxmbj
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ivmj379
| 1,667,987,242 | 1,667,956,675 | 43 | 5 |
If your neighbor has transferred the title of his vehicle or attempts to transfer money to a bank outside of the US, all of that leaves a paper trail. These actions are known as fraudulent transfers or conveyances, and are an attempt to defraud creditors. Speak with your attorney. This is something that can be pursued. If your neighbor did, in fact, transfer an asset (the car) to his parent/s to avoid payment, and if that vehicle has a value that would satisfy the court ordered judgment, you might be able to pursue a claim (sue) against the recipient of the asset. Again, speak with your attorney. Your neighbor thinks he’s being slick, but he’s not. He’s leaving a paper trail, and should be able to be proven through acquiring paper copies of the actions.
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Get a service to go after him. Yes they get a fee but only if he pays
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ypyrwg
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legaladvice_train
| 0.99 |
We won a restraining order and legal fees of $8k against our neighbor. He’s now claiming financial hardship to get out of paying. We heard that he plans to move all his money to Canadian accounts to make himself look broke. Is that legal? Should we report him to the IRS/IA? He lives rent free with his elderly parents and went as far as to transfer his truck to his dad (who can’t drive) to say he doesn’t own anything. He’s also now claiming he’s unemployed instead of retired. Anything to get out of paying. I can’t afford any more attorneys fees. I couldn’t afford these ones but our safety, and our baby’s safety, forced the issue. Who can I report all this too?
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ivndhgt
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ivmj379
| 1,667,971,799 | 1,667,956,675 | 13 | 5 |
Not a lawyer call the clerk of court office and ask about filing to garnish future wages.
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Get a service to go after him. Yes they get a fee but only if he pays
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ypyrwg
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legaladvice_train
| 0.99 |
We won a restraining order and legal fees of $8k against our neighbor. He’s now claiming financial hardship to get out of paying. We heard that he plans to move all his money to Canadian accounts to make himself look broke. Is that legal? Should we report him to the IRS/IA? He lives rent free with his elderly parents and went as far as to transfer his truck to his dad (who can’t drive) to say he doesn’t own anything. He’s also now claiming he’s unemployed instead of retired. Anything to get out of paying. I can’t afford any more attorneys fees. I couldn’t afford these ones but our safety, and our baby’s safety, forced the issue. Who can I report all this too?
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ivnwovf
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ivmj379
| 1,667,986,402 | 1,667,956,675 | 11 | 5 |
There’s a thing called “judgment proof,” which is what happens when someone who owes money can’t be subject to collection. It sounds like that’s the deal with this guy. He doesn’t have wages to garnish or real property in his name. It’s always tenuous, trying to garnish bank accounts, but it sounds like he doesn’t have that. You could hire a lawyer who specializes in collections, but you’ll pay them direct, and it could be money better spent on lottery tickets. I’m just going off what you said in your post, but it sounds like you paid $8k for a restraining order.
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Get a service to go after him. Yes they get a fee but only if he pays
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xg4vxd
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I have neighbors that park mostly on the street, but with one side of their tires on the edge of my lawn. Can the cops or tow company to have it removed? I’ve asked them multiple times. They say “sure” and keep doing it. At my wits end.
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ioq8o8a
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iorlrpz
| 1,663,369,221 | 1,663,395,707 | 30 | 38 |
See if there are any city ordinances or neighborhood covenants about parking in the street....often there are but just never discussed or enforced unless there's an issue. In order to do something you could most likely need to stake in a "no trespassing - no parking on grass" sign....if you do that, you will be more likely to do something about it. Of course, your neighbors will probably brand you as the neighborhood *ss and just wait for an opportunity to lash out by doing something vindictive. Sometimes when dealing with inconsiderate disrespectful people who you have to live by, you need to pick your battles and decide what war you want to die for. Maybe just talk to them about how you spend a lot of money and time on your yard and wish they wouldn't park in your grass.
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Could you place a few big rocks on the edge of the lawn to make sure they won't cross the line?
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xg4vxd
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legaladvice_train
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I have neighbors that park mostly on the street, but with one side of their tires on the edge of my lawn. Can the cops or tow company to have it removed? I’ve asked them multiple times. They say “sure” and keep doing it. At my wits end.
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iorlrpz
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ioq4gia
| 1,663,395,707 | 1,663,367,311 | 38 | 11 |
Could you place a few big rocks on the edge of the lawn to make sure they won't cross the line?
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Often the grass between the sidewalk and the curb isn’t actually owned by you. Are you sure you own that piece of property? Also, does it really matter enough to start a problem and get them towed?
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xg4vxd
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legaladvice_train
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I have neighbors that park mostly on the street, but with one side of their tires on the edge of my lawn. Can the cops or tow company to have it removed? I’ve asked them multiple times. They say “sure” and keep doing it. At my wits end.
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iorlrpz
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ioqipmp
| 1,663,395,707 | 1,663,374,012 | 38 | 11 |
Could you place a few big rocks on the edge of the lawn to make sure they won't cross the line?
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If there is a city ordinance about parking that prohibits this and the police write parking tickets that is your best option. That's 2 things you need to find out though. It could also be code enforcement that does it if not police. It really depends on how your city does things.
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xg4vxd
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legaladvice_train
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I have neighbors that park mostly on the street, but with one side of their tires on the edge of my lawn. Can the cops or tow company to have it removed? I’ve asked them multiple times. They say “sure” and keep doing it. At my wits end.
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iorlrpz
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ioqbs6k
| 1,663,395,707 | 1,663,370,678 | 38 | 5 |
Could you place a few big rocks on the edge of the lawn to make sure they won't cross the line?
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Cameras and no trespassing signs. If they're leaving ruts in the yard ots destruction of property, if they park on your yard its trespassing. It's honestly that simple. Back when we got a lot of ICE on the roads my dad's truck slid off the road and went into the ditch and got it stuck. Couldn't get it and it was about 11 at night so we left it. Next day police officers was waiting and gave him a trespassing and destruction of property tickets. The ditch was technically still the Farmers property they just dug them themselves. So I don't understand the "Police won't get involved" comments when personally I've seen police get involved with non-sense.
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xg4vxd
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legaladvice_train
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I have neighbors that park mostly on the street, but with one side of their tires on the edge of my lawn. Can the cops or tow company to have it removed? I’ve asked them multiple times. They say “sure” and keep doing it. At my wits end.
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ioqpwjy
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iorlrpz
| 1,663,377,479 | 1,663,395,707 | 3 | 38 |
Rocks, rail road ties, anything big, heavy, and that will mess a car up.
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Could you place a few big rocks on the edge of the lawn to make sure they won't cross the line?
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xg4vxd
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legaladvice_train
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I have neighbors that park mostly on the street, but with one side of their tires on the edge of my lawn. Can the cops or tow company to have it removed? I’ve asked them multiple times. They say “sure” and keep doing it. At my wits end.
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ioq8o8a
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ioq4gia
| 1,663,369,221 | 1,663,367,311 | 30 | 11 |
See if there are any city ordinances or neighborhood covenants about parking in the street....often there are but just never discussed or enforced unless there's an issue. In order to do something you could most likely need to stake in a "no trespassing - no parking on grass" sign....if you do that, you will be more likely to do something about it. Of course, your neighbors will probably brand you as the neighborhood *ss and just wait for an opportunity to lash out by doing something vindictive. Sometimes when dealing with inconsiderate disrespectful people who you have to live by, you need to pick your battles and decide what war you want to die for. Maybe just talk to them about how you spend a lot of money and time on your yard and wish they wouldn't park in your grass.
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Often the grass between the sidewalk and the curb isn’t actually owned by you. Are you sure you own that piece of property? Also, does it really matter enough to start a problem and get them towed?
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xg4vxd
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legaladvice_train
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I have neighbors that park mostly on the street, but with one side of their tires on the edge of my lawn. Can the cops or tow company to have it removed? I’ve asked them multiple times. They say “sure” and keep doing it. At my wits end.
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ioqipmp
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ioqbs6k
| 1,663,374,012 | 1,663,370,678 | 11 | 5 |
If there is a city ordinance about parking that prohibits this and the police write parking tickets that is your best option. That's 2 things you need to find out though. It could also be code enforcement that does it if not police. It really depends on how your city does things.
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Cameras and no trespassing signs. If they're leaving ruts in the yard ots destruction of property, if they park on your yard its trespassing. It's honestly that simple. Back when we got a lot of ICE on the roads my dad's truck slid off the road and went into the ditch and got it stuck. Couldn't get it and it was about 11 at night so we left it. Next day police officers was waiting and gave him a trespassing and destruction of property tickets. The ditch was technically still the Farmers property they just dug them themselves. So I don't understand the "Police won't get involved" comments when personally I've seen police get involved with non-sense.
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92qios
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My 62 year old father accidentally took a woman’s phone from a pizza shop, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. It was returned less than an hour later when he realized his mistake. She is now suing him for theft by unlawful taking and could face jail time. What should we do? [Pennsylvania] A few weeks ago, my family ordered dinner from our local pizza shop and my father went to go pick it up. While paying for the pizza and engaging in some conversation with the cashier, there was a woman at the cashier next to him also paying for her food. She had her phone and wallet out on the counter. My dad got our pizza and collected his things, and accidentally took the woman’s phone off of the counter and put it in his pocket, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. According to my dad, he said the woman saw in full view what he was doing, and said nothing. About a half hour later, a police officer comes knocking on our door. The officer stated that a woman from the pizza shop was missing her phone, and the find my iPhone app tracked it to our house. My dad looked in his pocket and saw that he had the phone they were looking for, along with his actual phone. He realized his mistake, apologized profusely, and gave the phone back to the officer. He explained that it was an honest mistake and he never meant to steal anything from the woman. The officer seemed to understand (even laughed a little bit), took the phone, and returned it to the woman. Today, my dad received a court ordered letter stating that the woman intends to press charges of theft by unlawful taking. The letter states that my dad willfully and unlawfully took the woman’s property with no intention of returning it to the woman, and intended to sell the stolen property. The letter states that if he is found guilty he could face a fine, community service, or even jail time. This was 100% an honest mistake. My dad is an old man who has never stolen anything in his life and has no criminal record. The two phones were the same model and both have black cases. Also, according to my dad, this woman saw exactly what he was doing and did not say anything. What should we do in order for this to be resolved?
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e37lzo9
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A letter? From who? An attorney? Does the letter ask for something specific, like money?
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Your dad needs a criminal defense lawyer ASAP. He should not talk to the police or the woman suing him at all.
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92qios
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legaladvice_train
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My 62 year old father accidentally took a woman’s phone from a pizza shop, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. It was returned less than an hour later when he realized his mistake. She is now suing him for theft by unlawful taking and could face jail time. What should we do? [Pennsylvania] A few weeks ago, my family ordered dinner from our local pizza shop and my father went to go pick it up. While paying for the pizza and engaging in some conversation with the cashier, there was a woman at the cashier next to him also paying for her food. She had her phone and wallet out on the counter. My dad got our pizza and collected his things, and accidentally took the woman’s phone off of the counter and put it in his pocket, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. According to my dad, he said the woman saw in full view what he was doing, and said nothing. About a half hour later, a police officer comes knocking on our door. The officer stated that a woman from the pizza shop was missing her phone, and the find my iPhone app tracked it to our house. My dad looked in his pocket and saw that he had the phone they were looking for, along with his actual phone. He realized his mistake, apologized profusely, and gave the phone back to the officer. He explained that it was an honest mistake and he never meant to steal anything from the woman. The officer seemed to understand (even laughed a little bit), took the phone, and returned it to the woman. Today, my dad received a court ordered letter stating that the woman intends to press charges of theft by unlawful taking. The letter states that my dad willfully and unlawfully took the woman’s property with no intention of returning it to the woman, and intended to sell the stolen property. The letter states that if he is found guilty he could face a fine, community service, or even jail time. This was 100% an honest mistake. My dad is an old man who has never stolen anything in his life and has no criminal record. The two phones were the same model and both have black cases. Also, according to my dad, this woman saw exactly what he was doing and did not say anything. What should we do in order for this to be resolved?
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e37lzo9
| 1,532,821,322 | 1,532,821,367 | 136 | 2,567 |
Unfortunately, he will need a lawyer once he is served with court papers or arrested. If he would have returned the phone himself it probably would have been a non-issue, but the police came to his door to retrieve instead. "I didn't mean to take it, it was an accident" is probably the #1 excuse they hear, so you can imagine why they don't believe him.
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Your dad needs a criminal defense lawyer ASAP. He should not talk to the police or the woman suing him at all.
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92qios
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legaladvice_train
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My 62 year old father accidentally took a woman’s phone from a pizza shop, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. It was returned less than an hour later when he realized his mistake. She is now suing him for theft by unlawful taking and could face jail time. What should we do? [Pennsylvania] A few weeks ago, my family ordered dinner from our local pizza shop and my father went to go pick it up. While paying for the pizza and engaging in some conversation with the cashier, there was a woman at the cashier next to him also paying for her food. She had her phone and wallet out on the counter. My dad got our pizza and collected his things, and accidentally took the woman’s phone off of the counter and put it in his pocket, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. According to my dad, he said the woman saw in full view what he was doing, and said nothing. About a half hour later, a police officer comes knocking on our door. The officer stated that a woman from the pizza shop was missing her phone, and the find my iPhone app tracked it to our house. My dad looked in his pocket and saw that he had the phone they were looking for, along with his actual phone. He realized his mistake, apologized profusely, and gave the phone back to the officer. He explained that it was an honest mistake and he never meant to steal anything from the woman. The officer seemed to understand (even laughed a little bit), took the phone, and returned it to the woman. Today, my dad received a court ordered letter stating that the woman intends to press charges of theft by unlawful taking. The letter states that my dad willfully and unlawfully took the woman’s property with no intention of returning it to the woman, and intended to sell the stolen property. The letter states that if he is found guilty he could face a fine, community service, or even jail time. This was 100% an honest mistake. My dad is an old man who has never stolen anything in his life and has no criminal record. The two phones were the same model and both have black cases. Also, according to my dad, this woman saw exactly what he was doing and did not say anything. What should we do in order for this to be resolved?
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e37m9rq
| 1,532,824,362 | 1,532,821,670 | 544 | 341 |
Please edit your post with the following information: * Who is the letter from (who signed it)? * Does the letter say anything about a date your father must appear in court? * Does the letter demand any money? Make any other demands? I'm not aware of any court that sends a letter saying "this person made a complaint and you might be charged". This sounds like a letter from an unscrupulous attorney (or someone pretending to be one) who is trying to shake your dad down or some easy cash.
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A "Court ordered letter"? Who was the letter from? It sounds like she's trying to pull a fast one to get him to pay her something. If everything is as you say, then the likelihood of him getting punished is pretty small. If he's actually charged, then he needs to get an attorney.
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92qios
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legaladvice_train
| 0.98 |
My 62 year old father accidentally took a woman’s phone from a pizza shop, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. It was returned less than an hour later when he realized his mistake. She is now suing him for theft by unlawful taking and could face jail time. What should we do? [Pennsylvania] A few weeks ago, my family ordered dinner from our local pizza shop and my father went to go pick it up. While paying for the pizza and engaging in some conversation with the cashier, there was a woman at the cashier next to him also paying for her food. She had her phone and wallet out on the counter. My dad got our pizza and collected his things, and accidentally took the woman’s phone off of the counter and put it in his pocket, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. According to my dad, he said the woman saw in full view what he was doing, and said nothing. About a half hour later, a police officer comes knocking on our door. The officer stated that a woman from the pizza shop was missing her phone, and the find my iPhone app tracked it to our house. My dad looked in his pocket and saw that he had the phone they were looking for, along with his actual phone. He realized his mistake, apologized profusely, and gave the phone back to the officer. He explained that it was an honest mistake and he never meant to steal anything from the woman. The officer seemed to understand (even laughed a little bit), took the phone, and returned it to the woman. Today, my dad received a court ordered letter stating that the woman intends to press charges of theft by unlawful taking. The letter states that my dad willfully and unlawfully took the woman’s property with no intention of returning it to the woman, and intended to sell the stolen property. The letter states that if he is found guilty he could face a fine, community service, or even jail time. This was 100% an honest mistake. My dad is an old man who has never stolen anything in his life and has no criminal record. The two phones were the same model and both have black cases. Also, according to my dad, this woman saw exactly what he was doing and did not say anything. What should we do in order for this to be resolved?
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e37oljh
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e37ly8n
| 1,532,824,362 | 1,532,821,322 | 544 | 136 |
Please edit your post with the following information: * Who is the letter from (who signed it)? * Does the letter say anything about a date your father must appear in court? * Does the letter demand any money? Make any other demands? I'm not aware of any court that sends a letter saying "this person made a complaint and you might be charged". This sounds like a letter from an unscrupulous attorney (or someone pretending to be one) who is trying to shake your dad down or some easy cash.
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Unfortunately, he will need a lawyer once he is served with court papers or arrested. If he would have returned the phone himself it probably would have been a non-issue, but the police came to his door to retrieve instead. "I didn't mean to take it, it was an accident" is probably the #1 excuse they hear, so you can imagine why they don't believe him.
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92qios
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legaladvice_train
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My 62 year old father accidentally took a woman’s phone from a pizza shop, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. It was returned less than an hour later when he realized his mistake. She is now suing him for theft by unlawful taking and could face jail time. What should we do? [Pennsylvania] A few weeks ago, my family ordered dinner from our local pizza shop and my father went to go pick it up. While paying for the pizza and engaging in some conversation with the cashier, there was a woman at the cashier next to him also paying for her food. She had her phone and wallet out on the counter. My dad got our pizza and collected his things, and accidentally took the woman’s phone off of the counter and put it in his pocket, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. According to my dad, he said the woman saw in full view what he was doing, and said nothing. About a half hour later, a police officer comes knocking on our door. The officer stated that a woman from the pizza shop was missing her phone, and the find my iPhone app tracked it to our house. My dad looked in his pocket and saw that he had the phone they were looking for, along with his actual phone. He realized his mistake, apologized profusely, and gave the phone back to the officer. He explained that it was an honest mistake and he never meant to steal anything from the woman. The officer seemed to understand (even laughed a little bit), took the phone, and returned it to the woman. Today, my dad received a court ordered letter stating that the woman intends to press charges of theft by unlawful taking. The letter states that my dad willfully and unlawfully took the woman’s property with no intention of returning it to the woman, and intended to sell the stolen property. The letter states that if he is found guilty he could face a fine, community service, or even jail time. This was 100% an honest mistake. My dad is an old man who has never stolen anything in his life and has no criminal record. The two phones were the same model and both have black cases. Also, according to my dad, this woman saw exactly what he was doing and did not say anything. What should we do in order for this to be resolved?
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e3827ng
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A "Court ordered letter"? Who was the letter from? It sounds like she's trying to pull a fast one to get him to pay her something. If everything is as you say, then the likelihood of him getting punished is pretty small. If he's actually charged, then he needs to get an attorney.
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The CCTV video of this event would come in handy. If OPs dad claims woman saw him take it and say nothing, the recording and aftermath of this event will help. Did the woman really see? Did she react in anyway? Did she call the police right away. Did the officer observe OPs father come up with both phones, and did officer observe they appear similar? Yeah, love to empathize with the suspect to solidify a confession.
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92qios
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My 62 year old father accidentally took a woman’s phone from a pizza shop, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. It was returned less than an hour later when he realized his mistake. She is now suing him for theft by unlawful taking and could face jail time. What should we do? [Pennsylvania] A few weeks ago, my family ordered dinner from our local pizza shop and my father went to go pick it up. While paying for the pizza and engaging in some conversation with the cashier, there was a woman at the cashier next to him also paying for her food. She had her phone and wallet out on the counter. My dad got our pizza and collected his things, and accidentally took the woman’s phone off of the counter and put it in his pocket, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. According to my dad, he said the woman saw in full view what he was doing, and said nothing. About a half hour later, a police officer comes knocking on our door. The officer stated that a woman from the pizza shop was missing her phone, and the find my iPhone app tracked it to our house. My dad looked in his pocket and saw that he had the phone they were looking for, along with his actual phone. He realized his mistake, apologized profusely, and gave the phone back to the officer. He explained that it was an honest mistake and he never meant to steal anything from the woman. The officer seemed to understand (even laughed a little bit), took the phone, and returned it to the woman. Today, my dad received a court ordered letter stating that the woman intends to press charges of theft by unlawful taking. The letter states that my dad willfully and unlawfully took the woman’s property with no intention of returning it to the woman, and intended to sell the stolen property. The letter states that if he is found guilty he could face a fine, community service, or even jail time. This was 100% an honest mistake. My dad is an old man who has never stolen anything in his life and has no criminal record. The two phones were the same model and both have black cases. Also, according to my dad, this woman saw exactly what he was doing and did not say anything. What should we do in order for this to be resolved?
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The CCTV video of this event would come in handy. If OPs dad claims woman saw him take it and say nothing, the recording and aftermath of this event will help. Did the woman really see? Did she react in anyway? Did she call the police right away. Did the officer observe OPs father come up with both phones, and did officer observe they appear similar? Yeah, love to empathize with the suspect to solidify a confession.
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Unfortunately, he will need a lawyer once he is served with court papers or arrested. If he would have returned the phone himself it probably would have been a non-issue, but the police came to his door to retrieve instead. "I didn't mean to take it, it was an accident" is probably the #1 excuse they hear, so you can imagine why they don't believe him.
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My 62 year old father accidentally took a woman’s phone from a pizza shop, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. It was returned less than an hour later when he realized his mistake. She is now suing him for theft by unlawful taking and could face jail time. What should we do? [Pennsylvania] A few weeks ago, my family ordered dinner from our local pizza shop and my father went to go pick it up. While paying for the pizza and engaging in some conversation with the cashier, there was a woman at the cashier next to him also paying for her food. She had her phone and wallet out on the counter. My dad got our pizza and collected his things, and accidentally took the woman’s phone off of the counter and put it in his pocket, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. According to my dad, he said the woman saw in full view what he was doing, and said nothing. About a half hour later, a police officer comes knocking on our door. The officer stated that a woman from the pizza shop was missing her phone, and the find my iPhone app tracked it to our house. My dad looked in his pocket and saw that he had the phone they were looking for, along with his actual phone. He realized his mistake, apologized profusely, and gave the phone back to the officer. He explained that it was an honest mistake and he never meant to steal anything from the woman. The officer seemed to understand (even laughed a little bit), took the phone, and returned it to the woman. Today, my dad received a court ordered letter stating that the woman intends to press charges of theft by unlawful taking. The letter states that my dad willfully and unlawfully took the woman’s property with no intention of returning it to the woman, and intended to sell the stolen property. The letter states that if he is found guilty he could face a fine, community service, or even jail time. This was 100% an honest mistake. My dad is an old man who has never stolen anything in his life and has no criminal record. The two phones were the same model and both have black cases. Also, according to my dad, this woman saw exactly what he was doing and did not say anything. What should we do in order for this to be resolved?
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Before you go any further - can you possibly talk to the court and verify that this is in fact a letter from the court? If it is, you definitely need an attorney. But it wouldn't be the first time someone has made up an "official" letter. I'm sure with a bit of work, photoshop, and a printer, I could come up with an official letter from the Queen's Bench of the Grand Empire of Kalamazoo ordering you to appear in court.
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The CCTV video of this event would come in handy. If OPs dad claims woman saw him take it and say nothing, the recording and aftermath of this event will help. Did the woman really see? Did she react in anyway? Did she call the police right away. Did the officer observe OPs father come up with both phones, and did officer observe they appear similar? Yeah, love to empathize with the suspect to solidify a confession.
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My 62 year old father accidentally took a woman’s phone from a pizza shop, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. It was returned less than an hour later when he realized his mistake. She is now suing him for theft by unlawful taking and could face jail time. What should we do? [Pennsylvania] A few weeks ago, my family ordered dinner from our local pizza shop and my father went to go pick it up. While paying for the pizza and engaging in some conversation with the cashier, there was a woman at the cashier next to him also paying for her food. She had her phone and wallet out on the counter. My dad got our pizza and collected his things, and accidentally took the woman’s phone off of the counter and put it in his pocket, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. According to my dad, he said the woman saw in full view what he was doing, and said nothing. About a half hour later, a police officer comes knocking on our door. The officer stated that a woman from the pizza shop was missing her phone, and the find my iPhone app tracked it to our house. My dad looked in his pocket and saw that he had the phone they were looking for, along with his actual phone. He realized his mistake, apologized profusely, and gave the phone back to the officer. He explained that it was an honest mistake and he never meant to steal anything from the woman. The officer seemed to understand (even laughed a little bit), took the phone, and returned it to the woman. Today, my dad received a court ordered letter stating that the woman intends to press charges of theft by unlawful taking. The letter states that my dad willfully and unlawfully took the woman’s property with no intention of returning it to the woman, and intended to sell the stolen property. The letter states that if he is found guilty he could face a fine, community service, or even jail time. This was 100% an honest mistake. My dad is an old man who has never stolen anything in his life and has no criminal record. The two phones were the same model and both have black cases. Also, according to my dad, this woman saw exactly what he was doing and did not say anything. What should we do in order for this to be resolved?
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In USA it's still innocent until proven guilty. If his phone looked the same as the woman's phone, it was an easy mistake to make and her lawyer likely would have some challenge trying to prove he did steal it with the intent to keep or resell. Without proof of intent, the judge may rule this an accident and dismiss the charge. If Dad cannot afford a lawyer and does not have income, he may qualify for court appointed lawyer. Talk with the court Monday and find out what is needed to get one.
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The CCTV video of this event would come in handy. If OPs dad claims woman saw him take it and say nothing, the recording and aftermath of this event will help. Did the woman really see? Did she react in anyway? Did she call the police right away. Did the officer observe OPs father come up with both phones, and did officer observe they appear similar? Yeah, love to empathize with the suspect to solidify a confession.
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My 62 year old father accidentally took a woman’s phone from a pizza shop, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. It was returned less than an hour later when he realized his mistake. She is now suing him for theft by unlawful taking and could face jail time. What should we do? [Pennsylvania] A few weeks ago, my family ordered dinner from our local pizza shop and my father went to go pick it up. While paying for the pizza and engaging in some conversation with the cashier, there was a woman at the cashier next to him also paying for her food. She had her phone and wallet out on the counter. My dad got our pizza and collected his things, and accidentally took the woman’s phone off of the counter and put it in his pocket, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. According to my dad, he said the woman saw in full view what he was doing, and said nothing. About a half hour later, a police officer comes knocking on our door. The officer stated that a woman from the pizza shop was missing her phone, and the find my iPhone app tracked it to our house. My dad looked in his pocket and saw that he had the phone they were looking for, along with his actual phone. He realized his mistake, apologized profusely, and gave the phone back to the officer. He explained that it was an honest mistake and he never meant to steal anything from the woman. The officer seemed to understand (even laughed a little bit), took the phone, and returned it to the woman. Today, my dad received a court ordered letter stating that the woman intends to press charges of theft by unlawful taking. The letter states that my dad willfully and unlawfully took the woman’s property with no intention of returning it to the woman, and intended to sell the stolen property. The letter states that if he is found guilty he could face a fine, community service, or even jail time. This was 100% an honest mistake. My dad is an old man who has never stolen anything in his life and has no criminal record. The two phones were the same model and both have black cases. Also, according to my dad, this woman saw exactly what he was doing and did not say anything. What should we do in order for this to be resolved?
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You have given unclear information and as a result most of the commenters are giving mixed information because of the information we have. Jest you need to determine whether it’s a civil or criminal case. As one commenter mentioned in criminal case it’s the State that will be the plaintiff (prosecution) and it will be from the District Attorney. Assuming it is criminal case then you should be provided a public defender should you be unable to afford one. You may contact your local PD (Public Defender) office. However if this is a civil case then you will need a defense attorney one that specializes in Tort Law. Which you would need to pay for out of pocket.
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The CCTV video of this event would come in handy. If OPs dad claims woman saw him take it and say nothing, the recording and aftermath of this event will help. Did the woman really see? Did she react in anyway? Did she call the police right away. Did the officer observe OPs father come up with both phones, and did officer observe they appear similar? Yeah, love to empathize with the suspect to solidify a confession.
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My 62 year old father accidentally took a woman’s phone from a pizza shop, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. It was returned less than an hour later when he realized his mistake. She is now suing him for theft by unlawful taking and could face jail time. What should we do? [Pennsylvania] A few weeks ago, my family ordered dinner from our local pizza shop and my father went to go pick it up. While paying for the pizza and engaging in some conversation with the cashier, there was a woman at the cashier next to him also paying for her food. She had her phone and wallet out on the counter. My dad got our pizza and collected his things, and accidentally took the woman’s phone off of the counter and put it in his pocket, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. According to my dad, he said the woman saw in full view what he was doing, and said nothing. About a half hour later, a police officer comes knocking on our door. The officer stated that a woman from the pizza shop was missing her phone, and the find my iPhone app tracked it to our house. My dad looked in his pocket and saw that he had the phone they were looking for, along with his actual phone. He realized his mistake, apologized profusely, and gave the phone back to the officer. He explained that it was an honest mistake and he never meant to steal anything from the woman. The officer seemed to understand (even laughed a little bit), took the phone, and returned it to the woman. Today, my dad received a court ordered letter stating that the woman intends to press charges of theft by unlawful taking. The letter states that my dad willfully and unlawfully took the woman’s property with no intention of returning it to the woman, and intended to sell the stolen property. The letter states that if he is found guilty he could face a fine, community service, or even jail time. This was 100% an honest mistake. My dad is an old man who has never stolen anything in his life and has no criminal record. The two phones were the same model and both have black cases. Also, according to my dad, this woman saw exactly what he was doing and did not say anything. What should we do in order for this to be resolved?
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The CCTV video of this event would come in handy. If OPs dad claims woman saw him take it and say nothing, the recording and aftermath of this event will help. Did the woman really see? Did she react in anyway? Did she call the police right away. Did the officer observe OPs father come up with both phones, and did officer observe they appear similar? Yeah, love to empathize with the suspect to solidify a confession.
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It seems like your best bet at this point is to go over that letter with a magnifying glass (hyperbole) and get the exact details as to if this is a criminal or civil mater, or if it is forged. If it is civil I cant' imagine having her phone for approximately half an hour means her damages are very high and if it is criminal at the very least you are entitled to an attorney. I am not a lawyer but you clearly care about your father and I sincerely doubt he will experience anything more harsh than the guilt he feels about having accidentally taking this person's phone. Other redditors have pointed out that being his age is not an ironclad defense but "stealing" an iphone with no prior convictions and showing sincere remorse should get every judge in America to show leniency. On the other hand if it is civil her damages are really restricted to not having her iphone for 30 mins and it is going to break my heart if you tell me all the people who care about him combined can't afford that.
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My 62 year old father accidentally took a woman’s phone from a pizza shop, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. It was returned less than an hour later when he realized his mistake. She is now suing him for theft by unlawful taking and could face jail time. What should we do? [Pennsylvania] A few weeks ago, my family ordered dinner from our local pizza shop and my father went to go pick it up. While paying for the pizza and engaging in some conversation with the cashier, there was a woman at the cashier next to him also paying for her food. She had her phone and wallet out on the counter. My dad got our pizza and collected his things, and accidentally took the woman’s phone off of the counter and put it in his pocket, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. According to my dad, he said the woman saw in full view what he was doing, and said nothing. About a half hour later, a police officer comes knocking on our door. The officer stated that a woman from the pizza shop was missing her phone, and the find my iPhone app tracked it to our house. My dad looked in his pocket and saw that he had the phone they were looking for, along with his actual phone. He realized his mistake, apologized profusely, and gave the phone back to the officer. He explained that it was an honest mistake and he never meant to steal anything from the woman. The officer seemed to understand (even laughed a little bit), took the phone, and returned it to the woman. Today, my dad received a court ordered letter stating that the woman intends to press charges of theft by unlawful taking. The letter states that my dad willfully and unlawfully took the woman’s property with no intention of returning it to the woman, and intended to sell the stolen property. The letter states that if he is found guilty he could face a fine, community service, or even jail time. This was 100% an honest mistake. My dad is an old man who has never stolen anything in his life and has no criminal record. The two phones were the same model and both have black cases. Also, according to my dad, this woman saw exactly what he was doing and did not say anything. What should we do in order for this to be resolved?
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Unfortunately, he will need a lawyer once he is served with court papers or arrested. If he would have returned the phone himself it probably would have been a non-issue, but the police came to his door to retrieve instead. "I didn't mean to take it, it was an accident" is probably the #1 excuse they hear, so you can imagine why they don't believe him.
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A "Court ordered letter"? Who was the letter from? It sounds like she's trying to pull a fast one to get him to pay her something. If everything is as you say, then the likelihood of him getting punished is pretty small. If he's actually charged, then he needs to get an attorney.
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My 62 year old father accidentally took a woman’s phone from a pizza shop, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. It was returned less than an hour later when he realized his mistake. She is now suing him for theft by unlawful taking and could face jail time. What should we do? [Pennsylvania] A few weeks ago, my family ordered dinner from our local pizza shop and my father went to go pick it up. While paying for the pizza and engaging in some conversation with the cashier, there was a woman at the cashier next to him also paying for her food. She had her phone and wallet out on the counter. My dad got our pizza and collected his things, and accidentally took the woman’s phone off of the counter and put it in his pocket, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. According to my dad, he said the woman saw in full view what he was doing, and said nothing. About a half hour later, a police officer comes knocking on our door. The officer stated that a woman from the pizza shop was missing her phone, and the find my iPhone app tracked it to our house. My dad looked in his pocket and saw that he had the phone they were looking for, along with his actual phone. He realized his mistake, apologized profusely, and gave the phone back to the officer. He explained that it was an honest mistake and he never meant to steal anything from the woman. The officer seemed to understand (even laughed a little bit), took the phone, and returned it to the woman. Today, my dad received a court ordered letter stating that the woman intends to press charges of theft by unlawful taking. The letter states that my dad willfully and unlawfully took the woman’s property with no intention of returning it to the woman, and intended to sell the stolen property. The letter states that if he is found guilty he could face a fine, community service, or even jail time. This was 100% an honest mistake. My dad is an old man who has never stolen anything in his life and has no criminal record. The two phones were the same model and both have black cases. Also, according to my dad, this woman saw exactly what he was doing and did not say anything. What should we do in order for this to be resolved?
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Unfortunately, he will need a lawyer once he is served with court papers or arrested. If he would have returned the phone himself it probably would have been a non-issue, but the police came to his door to retrieve instead. "I didn't mean to take it, it was an accident" is probably the #1 excuse they hear, so you can imagine why they don't believe him.
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https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/DocketSheets/MDJ.aspx See if your dads name pops up.
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My 62 year old father accidentally took a woman’s phone from a pizza shop, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. It was returned less than an hour later when he realized his mistake. She is now suing him for theft by unlawful taking and could face jail time. What should we do? [Pennsylvania] A few weeks ago, my family ordered dinner from our local pizza shop and my father went to go pick it up. While paying for the pizza and engaging in some conversation with the cashier, there was a woman at the cashier next to him also paying for her food. She had her phone and wallet out on the counter. My dad got our pizza and collected his things, and accidentally took the woman’s phone off of the counter and put it in his pocket, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. According to my dad, he said the woman saw in full view what he was doing, and said nothing. About a half hour later, a police officer comes knocking on our door. The officer stated that a woman from the pizza shop was missing her phone, and the find my iPhone app tracked it to our house. My dad looked in his pocket and saw that he had the phone they were looking for, along with his actual phone. He realized his mistake, apologized profusely, and gave the phone back to the officer. He explained that it was an honest mistake and he never meant to steal anything from the woman. The officer seemed to understand (even laughed a little bit), took the phone, and returned it to the woman. Today, my dad received a court ordered letter stating that the woman intends to press charges of theft by unlawful taking. The letter states that my dad willfully and unlawfully took the woman’s property with no intention of returning it to the woman, and intended to sell the stolen property. The letter states that if he is found guilty he could face a fine, community service, or even jail time. This was 100% an honest mistake. My dad is an old man who has never stolen anything in his life and has no criminal record. The two phones were the same model and both have black cases. Also, according to my dad, this woman saw exactly what he was doing and did not say anything. What should we do in order for this to be resolved?
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https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/DocketSheets/MDJ.aspx See if your dads name pops up.
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Before you go any further - can you possibly talk to the court and verify that this is in fact a letter from the court? If it is, you definitely need an attorney. But it wouldn't be the first time someone has made up an "official" letter. I'm sure with a bit of work, photoshop, and a printer, I could come up with an official letter from the Queen's Bench of the Grand Empire of Kalamazoo ordering you to appear in court.
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My 62 year old father accidentally took a woman’s phone from a pizza shop, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. It was returned less than an hour later when he realized his mistake. She is now suing him for theft by unlawful taking and could face jail time. What should we do? [Pennsylvania] A few weeks ago, my family ordered dinner from our local pizza shop and my father went to go pick it up. While paying for the pizza and engaging in some conversation with the cashier, there was a woman at the cashier next to him also paying for her food. She had her phone and wallet out on the counter. My dad got our pizza and collected his things, and accidentally took the woman’s phone off of the counter and put it in his pocket, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. According to my dad, he said the woman saw in full view what he was doing, and said nothing. About a half hour later, a police officer comes knocking on our door. The officer stated that a woman from the pizza shop was missing her phone, and the find my iPhone app tracked it to our house. My dad looked in his pocket and saw that he had the phone they were looking for, along with his actual phone. He realized his mistake, apologized profusely, and gave the phone back to the officer. He explained that it was an honest mistake and he never meant to steal anything from the woman. The officer seemed to understand (even laughed a little bit), took the phone, and returned it to the woman. Today, my dad received a court ordered letter stating that the woman intends to press charges of theft by unlawful taking. The letter states that my dad willfully and unlawfully took the woman’s property with no intention of returning it to the woman, and intended to sell the stolen property. The letter states that if he is found guilty he could face a fine, community service, or even jail time. This was 100% an honest mistake. My dad is an old man who has never stolen anything in his life and has no criminal record. The two phones were the same model and both have black cases. Also, according to my dad, this woman saw exactly what he was doing and did not say anything. What should we do in order for this to be resolved?
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https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/DocketSheets/MDJ.aspx See if your dads name pops up.
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In USA it's still innocent until proven guilty. If his phone looked the same as the woman's phone, it was an easy mistake to make and her lawyer likely would have some challenge trying to prove he did steal it with the intent to keep or resell. Without proof of intent, the judge may rule this an accident and dismiss the charge. If Dad cannot afford a lawyer and does not have income, he may qualify for court appointed lawyer. Talk with the court Monday and find out what is needed to get one.
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My 62 year old father accidentally took a woman’s phone from a pizza shop, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. It was returned less than an hour later when he realized his mistake. She is now suing him for theft by unlawful taking and could face jail time. What should we do? [Pennsylvania] A few weeks ago, my family ordered dinner from our local pizza shop and my father went to go pick it up. While paying for the pizza and engaging in some conversation with the cashier, there was a woman at the cashier next to him also paying for her food. She had her phone and wallet out on the counter. My dad got our pizza and collected his things, and accidentally took the woman’s phone off of the counter and put it in his pocket, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. According to my dad, he said the woman saw in full view what he was doing, and said nothing. About a half hour later, a police officer comes knocking on our door. The officer stated that a woman from the pizza shop was missing her phone, and the find my iPhone app tracked it to our house. My dad looked in his pocket and saw that he had the phone they were looking for, along with his actual phone. He realized his mistake, apologized profusely, and gave the phone back to the officer. He explained that it was an honest mistake and he never meant to steal anything from the woman. The officer seemed to understand (even laughed a little bit), took the phone, and returned it to the woman. Today, my dad received a court ordered letter stating that the woman intends to press charges of theft by unlawful taking. The letter states that my dad willfully and unlawfully took the woman’s property with no intention of returning it to the woman, and intended to sell the stolen property. The letter states that if he is found guilty he could face a fine, community service, or even jail time. This was 100% an honest mistake. My dad is an old man who has never stolen anything in his life and has no criminal record. The two phones were the same model and both have black cases. Also, according to my dad, this woman saw exactly what he was doing and did not say anything. What should we do in order for this to be resolved?
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e386urm
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You have given unclear information and as a result most of the commenters are giving mixed information because of the information we have. Jest you need to determine whether it’s a civil or criminal case. As one commenter mentioned in criminal case it’s the State that will be the plaintiff (prosecution) and it will be from the District Attorney. Assuming it is criminal case then you should be provided a public defender should you be unable to afford one. You may contact your local PD (Public Defender) office. However if this is a civil case then you will need a defense attorney one that specializes in Tort Law. Which you would need to pay for out of pocket.
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https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/DocketSheets/MDJ.aspx See if your dads name pops up.
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My 62 year old father accidentally took a woman’s phone from a pizza shop, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. It was returned less than an hour later when he realized his mistake. She is now suing him for theft by unlawful taking and could face jail time. What should we do? [Pennsylvania] A few weeks ago, my family ordered dinner from our local pizza shop and my father went to go pick it up. While paying for the pizza and engaging in some conversation with the cashier, there was a woman at the cashier next to him also paying for her food. She had her phone and wallet out on the counter. My dad got our pizza and collected his things, and accidentally took the woman’s phone off of the counter and put it in his pocket, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. According to my dad, he said the woman saw in full view what he was doing, and said nothing. About a half hour later, a police officer comes knocking on our door. The officer stated that a woman from the pizza shop was missing her phone, and the find my iPhone app tracked it to our house. My dad looked in his pocket and saw that he had the phone they were looking for, along with his actual phone. He realized his mistake, apologized profusely, and gave the phone back to the officer. He explained that it was an honest mistake and he never meant to steal anything from the woman. The officer seemed to understand (even laughed a little bit), took the phone, and returned it to the woman. Today, my dad received a court ordered letter stating that the woman intends to press charges of theft by unlawful taking. The letter states that my dad willfully and unlawfully took the woman’s property with no intention of returning it to the woman, and intended to sell the stolen property. The letter states that if he is found guilty he could face a fine, community service, or even jail time. This was 100% an honest mistake. My dad is an old man who has never stolen anything in his life and has no criminal record. The two phones were the same model and both have black cases. Also, according to my dad, this woman saw exactly what he was doing and did not say anything. What should we do in order for this to be resolved?
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e386urm
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It seems like your best bet at this point is to go over that letter with a magnifying glass (hyperbole) and get the exact details as to if this is a criminal or civil mater, or if it is forged. If it is civil I cant' imagine having her phone for approximately half an hour means her damages are very high and if it is criminal at the very least you are entitled to an attorney. I am not a lawyer but you clearly care about your father and I sincerely doubt he will experience anything more harsh than the guilt he feels about having accidentally taking this person's phone. Other redditors have pointed out that being his age is not an ironclad defense but "stealing" an iphone with no prior convictions and showing sincere remorse should get every judge in America to show leniency. On the other hand if it is civil her damages are really restricted to not having her iphone for 30 mins and it is going to break my heart if you tell me all the people who care about him combined can't afford that.
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https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/DocketSheets/MDJ.aspx See if your dads name pops up.
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My 62 year old father accidentally took a woman’s phone from a pizza shop, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. It was returned less than an hour later when he realized his mistake. She is now suing him for theft by unlawful taking and could face jail time. What should we do? [Pennsylvania] A few weeks ago, my family ordered dinner from our local pizza shop and my father went to go pick it up. While paying for the pizza and engaging in some conversation with the cashier, there was a woman at the cashier next to him also paying for her food. She had her phone and wallet out on the counter. My dad got our pizza and collected his things, and accidentally took the woman’s phone off of the counter and put it in his pocket, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. According to my dad, he said the woman saw in full view what he was doing, and said nothing. About a half hour later, a police officer comes knocking on our door. The officer stated that a woman from the pizza shop was missing her phone, and the find my iPhone app tracked it to our house. My dad looked in his pocket and saw that he had the phone they were looking for, along with his actual phone. He realized his mistake, apologized profusely, and gave the phone back to the officer. He explained that it was an honest mistake and he never meant to steal anything from the woman. The officer seemed to understand (even laughed a little bit), took the phone, and returned it to the woman. Today, my dad received a court ordered letter stating that the woman intends to press charges of theft by unlawful taking. The letter states that my dad willfully and unlawfully took the woman’s property with no intention of returning it to the woman, and intended to sell the stolen property. The letter states that if he is found guilty he could face a fine, community service, or even jail time. This was 100% an honest mistake. My dad is an old man who has never stolen anything in his life and has no criminal record. The two phones were the same model and both have black cases. Also, according to my dad, this woman saw exactly what he was doing and did not say anything. What should we do in order for this to be resolved?
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e383ex1
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https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/DocketSheets/MDJ.aspx See if your dads name pops up.
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If it’s a civil suit she won’t be able to show damages which is essential for getting relief in civil court
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92qios
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My 62 year old father accidentally took a woman’s phone from a pizza shop, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. It was returned less than an hour later when he realized his mistake. She is now suing him for theft by unlawful taking and could face jail time. What should we do? [Pennsylvania] A few weeks ago, my family ordered dinner from our local pizza shop and my father went to go pick it up. While paying for the pizza and engaging in some conversation with the cashier, there was a woman at the cashier next to him also paying for her food. She had her phone and wallet out on the counter. My dad got our pizza and collected his things, and accidentally took the woman’s phone off of the counter and put it in his pocket, mistakenly thinking it was his phone. According to my dad, he said the woman saw in full view what he was doing, and said nothing. About a half hour later, a police officer comes knocking on our door. The officer stated that a woman from the pizza shop was missing her phone, and the find my iPhone app tracked it to our house. My dad looked in his pocket and saw that he had the phone they were looking for, along with his actual phone. He realized his mistake, apologized profusely, and gave the phone back to the officer. He explained that it was an honest mistake and he never meant to steal anything from the woman. The officer seemed to understand (even laughed a little bit), took the phone, and returned it to the woman. Today, my dad received a court ordered letter stating that the woman intends to press charges of theft by unlawful taking. The letter states that my dad willfully and unlawfully took the woman’s property with no intention of returning it to the woman, and intended to sell the stolen property. The letter states that if he is found guilty he could face a fine, community service, or even jail time. This was 100% an honest mistake. My dad is an old man who has never stolen anything in his life and has no criminal record. The two phones were the same model and both have black cases. Also, according to my dad, this woman saw exactly what he was doing and did not say anything. What should we do in order for this to be resolved?
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e37zk1l
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You have given unclear information and as a result most of the commenters are giving mixed information because of the information we have. Jest you need to determine whether it’s a civil or criminal case. As one commenter mentioned in criminal case it’s the State that will be the plaintiff (prosecution) and it will be from the District Attorney. Assuming it is criminal case then you should be provided a public defender should you be unable to afford one. You may contact your local PD (Public Defender) office. However if this is a civil case then you will need a defense attorney one that specializes in Tort Law. Which you would need to pay for out of pocket.
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It seems like your best bet at this point is to go over that letter with a magnifying glass (hyperbole) and get the exact details as to if this is a criminal or civil mater, or if it is forged. If it is civil I cant' imagine having her phone for approximately half an hour means her damages are very high and if it is criminal at the very least you are entitled to an attorney. I am not a lawyer but you clearly care about your father and I sincerely doubt he will experience anything more harsh than the guilt he feels about having accidentally taking this person's phone. Other redditors have pointed out that being his age is not an ironclad defense but "stealing" an iphone with no prior convictions and showing sincere remorse should get every judge in America to show leniency. On the other hand if it is civil her damages are really restricted to not having her iphone for 30 mins and it is going to break my heart if you tell me all the people who care about him combined can't afford that.
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5gi52r
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Is there legal aid in Kentucky? (Ex used our then 4 year olds identity to get a house and mortgage. He went to jail, got out last year and did it again and the mortgage is from the same bank. I lost my house and went bankrupt last time from the mess and I don't want it to happen again) Thank you
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dash4xw
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To directly answer your question: yes, it appears there are many different legal aid offices in Kentucky. The Kentucky bar has a webpage to direct your inquiry to here. I also highly recommend spending time with /r/personalfinance' "identity theft" page, located here, and following its advice. Use it from the perspective of your child whose identity has been stolen, now for the second time. **Number 1 priority is to go to the police and report the crime which has been perpetrated against your son.** See the link above for the stepwise approach to solving identity theft issues. Go ahead and get the kid a new SSN, too. Unfreezing the kid's credit is supposed to be nigh on impossible *without the PIN that was sent to you when you froze the credit the first time*. Somehow, the ex gamed the system; while it is not your responsibility to investigate the crime or teach the bank how to improve their systems, it absolutely is your responsibility to figure out what pieces of information you need to change so that the ex no longer has valid identity theft material when he gets out of jail next time.
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You should also talk to the DA who prosecuted your ex to see if they have any leads
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5gi52r
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Is there legal aid in Kentucky? (Ex used our then 4 year olds identity to get a house and mortgage. He went to jail, got out last year and did it again and the mortgage is from the same bank. I lost my house and went bankrupt last time from the mess and I don't want it to happen again) Thank you
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dasithn
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dasqjol
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Yes, There is! it depends on your county. What county are you in? My fiancee works for one of the Legal Aid offices in KY as a clerk right now.
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To directly answer your question: yes, it appears there are many different legal aid offices in Kentucky. The Kentucky bar has a webpage to direct your inquiry to here. I also highly recommend spending time with /r/personalfinance' "identity theft" page, located here, and following its advice. Use it from the perspective of your child whose identity has been stolen, now for the second time. **Number 1 priority is to go to the police and report the crime which has been perpetrated against your son.** See the link above for the stepwise approach to solving identity theft issues. Go ahead and get the kid a new SSN, too. Unfreezing the kid's credit is supposed to be nigh on impossible *without the PIN that was sent to you when you froze the credit the first time*. Somehow, the ex gamed the system; while it is not your responsibility to investigate the crime or teach the bank how to improve their systems, it absolutely is your responsibility to figure out what pieces of information you need to change so that the ex no longer has valid identity theft material when he gets out of jail next time.
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5gi52r
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legaladvice_train
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Is there legal aid in Kentucky? (Ex used our then 4 year olds identity to get a house and mortgage. He went to jail, got out last year and did it again and the mortgage is from the same bank. I lost my house and went bankrupt last time from the mess and I don't want it to happen again) Thank you
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dasqjol
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dasf1g0
| 1,480,906,237 | 1,480,890,879 | 120 | 10 |
To directly answer your question: yes, it appears there are many different legal aid offices in Kentucky. The Kentucky bar has a webpage to direct your inquiry to here. I also highly recommend spending time with /r/personalfinance' "identity theft" page, located here, and following its advice. Use it from the perspective of your child whose identity has been stolen, now for the second time. **Number 1 priority is to go to the police and report the crime which has been perpetrated against your son.** See the link above for the stepwise approach to solving identity theft issues. Go ahead and get the kid a new SSN, too. Unfreezing the kid's credit is supposed to be nigh on impossible *without the PIN that was sent to you when you froze the credit the first time*. Somehow, the ex gamed the system; while it is not your responsibility to investigate the crime or teach the bank how to improve their systems, it absolutely is your responsibility to figure out what pieces of information you need to change so that the ex no longer has valid identity theft material when he gets out of jail next time.
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There should be a local legal aid society where you live.
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5gi52r
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legaladvice_train
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Is there legal aid in Kentucky? (Ex used our then 4 year olds identity to get a house and mortgage. He went to jail, got out last year and did it again and the mortgage is from the same bank. I lost my house and went bankrupt last time from the mess and I don't want it to happen again) Thank you
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dash4xw
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dasf1g0
| 1,480,893,643 | 1,480,890,879 | 98 | 10 |
You should also talk to the DA who prosecuted your ex to see if they have any leads
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There should be a local legal aid society where you live.
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5gi52r
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legaladvice_train
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Is there legal aid in Kentucky? (Ex used our then 4 year olds identity to get a house and mortgage. He went to jail, got out last year and did it again and the mortgage is from the same bank. I lost my house and went bankrupt last time from the mess and I don't want it to happen again) Thank you
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dasithn
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dasf1g0
| 1,480,895,843 | 1,480,890,879 | 45 | 10 |
Yes, There is! it depends on your county. What county are you in? My fiancee works for one of the Legal Aid offices in KY as a clerk right now.
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There should be a local legal aid society where you live.
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5gi52r
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legaladvice_train
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Is there legal aid in Kentucky? (Ex used our then 4 year olds identity to get a house and mortgage. He went to jail, got out last year and did it again and the mortgage is from the same bank. I lost my house and went bankrupt last time from the mess and I don't want it to happen again) Thank you
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dasw7w8
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dasf1g0
| 1,480,914,279 | 1,480,890,879 | 33 | 10 |
I feel like there should be some way to sue the bank for negligence? Now there stupidity and lack of protocol is costing you and your children for the second time?
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There should be a local legal aid society where you live.
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5gi52r
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legaladvice_train
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Is there legal aid in Kentucky? (Ex used our then 4 year olds identity to get a house and mortgage. He went to jail, got out last year and did it again and the mortgage is from the same bank. I lost my house and went bankrupt last time from the mess and I don't want it to happen again) Thank you
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dasf1g0
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dat85e1
| 1,480,890,879 | 1,480,945,060 | 10 | 15 |
There should be a local legal aid society where you live.
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Contact his Parole Officer. If he is worth his salt that should be all you have to do.
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5gi52r
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legaladvice_train
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Is there legal aid in Kentucky? (Ex used our then 4 year olds identity to get a house and mortgage. He went to jail, got out last year and did it again and the mortgage is from the same bank. I lost my house and went bankrupt last time from the mess and I don't want it to happen again) Thank you
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dat85e1
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dasyimw
| 1,480,945,060 | 1,480,918,509 | 15 | 3 |
Contact his Parole Officer. If he is worth his salt that should be all you have to do.
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What bank? I really hope I don't have am account there.
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5gi52r
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legaladvice_train
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Is there legal aid in Kentucky? (Ex used our then 4 year olds identity to get a house and mortgage. He went to jail, got out last year and did it again and the mortgage is from the same bank. I lost my house and went bankrupt last time from the mess and I don't want it to happen again) Thank you
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dasyimw
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Have you gone down to the bank already and discussed it with a manager in person? How long ago did he secure this loan?
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What bank? I really hope I don't have am account there.
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zhlo06
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my fiance is being sued by an ex who is jail for committing a lot of fraud and taking out 230k in her name without her awareness. He plead guilty and is in jail but now is harrassing her suing her with the most absurd requests like claiming she stole 6 trillion from him. I feel like her lawyer is taking her for a ride since he has already confessed to the crime of taking money out in her name among many other crimes. Does she have any recourse to take to make him pay for all these frivolous claims. He's representing himself as hes too broke to hire a lawyer, despite his claims of wealth, not to mention hes already in jail so this is just his way to harrass her and cost her family money. I just dont know if there is a way to force all the expenses onto him?
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izmu698
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You should list your location/state. In the US, some states allow you to request restitution although that may be hard to recover if they are currently in jail for fraud and didn’t have any money to begin with. It’s ridiculous to think that he is suing her for 6 trillion dollars if he is in jail for fraud…especially if he stole money from her without her awareness. How long have you known your fiance? Have you been present with her and her lawyer? If so, why do you think “her lawyer is taking her for a ride”? You need to strongly consider that you fiancé is likely telling you incorrect information and that this is most likely a scam.
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Your fiancée already has a lawyer? Why is she communicating with her ex? Has she actually been sued or is the ex just threatening?
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zhlo06
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my fiance is being sued by an ex who is jail for committing a lot of fraud and taking out 230k in her name without her awareness. He plead guilty and is in jail but now is harrassing her suing her with the most absurd requests like claiming she stole 6 trillion from him. I feel like her lawyer is taking her for a ride since he has already confessed to the crime of taking money out in her name among many other crimes. Does she have any recourse to take to make him pay for all these frivolous claims. He's representing himself as hes too broke to hire a lawyer, despite his claims of wealth, not to mention hes already in jail so this is just his way to harrass her and cost her family money. I just dont know if there is a way to force all the expenses onto him?
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izo3er3
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izoea8i
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If she has a lawyer let that lawyer handle the matter. Your fiancé can request detailed itemized billing statements if she is concerned about the propriety of the billing. Besides, she has a trillion dollars. What’s the problem? :D
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See about having him declared a vexatious litigant.
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zhlo06
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my fiance is being sued by an ex who is jail for committing a lot of fraud and taking out 230k in her name without her awareness. He plead guilty and is in jail but now is harrassing her suing her with the most absurd requests like claiming she stole 6 trillion from him. I feel like her lawyer is taking her for a ride since he has already confessed to the crime of taking money out in her name among many other crimes. Does she have any recourse to take to make him pay for all these frivolous claims. He's representing himself as hes too broke to hire a lawyer, despite his claims of wealth, not to mention hes already in jail so this is just his way to harrass her and cost her family money. I just dont know if there is a way to force all the expenses onto him?
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izoea8i
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izmu698
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See about having him declared a vexatious litigant.
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Your fiancée already has a lawyer? Why is she communicating with her ex? Has she actually been sued or is the ex just threatening?
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zhlo06
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legaladvice_train
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my fiance is being sued by an ex who is jail for committing a lot of fraud and taking out 230k in her name without her awareness. He plead guilty and is in jail but now is harrassing her suing her with the most absurd requests like claiming she stole 6 trillion from him. I feel like her lawyer is taking her for a ride since he has already confessed to the crime of taking money out in her name among many other crimes. Does she have any recourse to take to make him pay for all these frivolous claims. He's representing himself as hes too broke to hire a lawyer, despite his claims of wealth, not to mention hes already in jail so this is just his way to harrass her and cost her family money. I just dont know if there is a way to force all the expenses onto him?
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izob5bl
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izoea8i
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If she doesn't live with her parents, when would her parents accept the service/summons? She doesn't live here, I am sorry I can't help you.
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See about having him declared a vexatious litigant.
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zhlo06
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legaladvice_train
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my fiance is being sued by an ex who is jail for committing a lot of fraud and taking out 230k in her name without her awareness. He plead guilty and is in jail but now is harrassing her suing her with the most absurd requests like claiming she stole 6 trillion from him. I feel like her lawyer is taking her for a ride since he has already confessed to the crime of taking money out in her name among many other crimes. Does she have any recourse to take to make him pay for all these frivolous claims. He's representing himself as hes too broke to hire a lawyer, despite his claims of wealth, not to mention hes already in jail so this is just his way to harrass her and cost her family money. I just dont know if there is a way to force all the expenses onto him?
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izo3er3
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izmu698
| 1,670,687,345 | 1,670,656,336 | 7 | 2 |
If she has a lawyer let that lawyer handle the matter. Your fiancé can request detailed itemized billing statements if she is concerned about the propriety of the billing. Besides, she has a trillion dollars. What’s the problem? :D
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Your fiancée already has a lawyer? Why is she communicating with her ex? Has she actually been sued or is the ex just threatening?
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I sold a Wacom tablet for $1K and buyer requested a return after telling me that he caused the error. Customer care allowed the return after I tried showing them a video on how I sent the package. I have a damaged tablet and some accessories now. What are my options? USA, MI] Hi there, I am making a quick post because I am a bit upset and let this carry on for a little bit since the beginning of December. My main account is r/Morasumi. I just had to make a new account because I forgot my password on it and forgot which email I attached onto it. So, forgive me if this is a problem. Anyway, I sold a Wacom Cintiq Companion 2 on a selling app for $1k. It is a selling app that can be found easily on Google Play Store or visit their website. It should be a well known selling app. They have a 3 day window return policy as opposed to other websites or apps. I have proof of how I sent the tablet. I uploaded it onto YouTube. I just don't want to post it here since you can see my address and stuff, but if anyone wants that video I can show proof of it. You can see the tablet working 100% perfectly with the plastic protective coverings and the plastic protective coverings on nearly all the other accessories, as well. I took care of it since I bought it a couple years ago. I made sure to show in the video of how I sent everything. Anyway, buyer messages me saying this: [Buyer admitting to causing the fault Then a few minutes later I get a request saying that the buyer had requested a return. So fast forward a little bit their customer service allowed the return even when I tried showing them proof of the condition I sent the item and saying buyer admitting to causing the error. So, I made sure to take another video of how I received it. Basically, it is broken and not how I originally sent it. All the plastic protective wrappings and such are gone and there are other slight blemishes and damages to the other accessories, etc. I uploaded it onto YouTube, as well. This seemed to not phase them and somehow I received it now is how I sent it... like wtf? I have been super upset about all of this 100% and kept trying to keep my cool the entire time. Made a request for the supervisor saying that the tablet and accessories isn't how I sent it. They gave me requests asking for pictures and then saying that they can't see the videos, but I have another one of their team saying she saw the video I made of how I sent my tablet. Customer care admitting to seeing what I meant in the video of how I sent the tablet and accessories After their return team allowed the return... I asked for review and was then told that they can't generally see videos after the return was approved So, I thought I would be nice and screenshot the two videos I shot. 55 photos were given on how I sent the package. 36 photos were given on how I received the package after the return, especially to show the errorm I waited and they just got back to me earlier saying this: My request from the supervisor being denied So, in conclusion they are saying that how I received the tablet from the buyer is how I sent it. That is 100% false. What are my options when it comes to this sort of thing? I am losing out on damages and the selling app / customer service team doesn't want to take responsibility, especially for their mistake. That money was really important to me. I needed to pay a doctor. Not to create a sob story, but that is the truth. They seem to not even look or care about any of the proof I provided. I can provide the video link of how I sent it and how I received it. I can show the error, as well. This is the screenshots I sent to Mercari to show proof that the tablet was 100% working. Also, at the end of the video I made sure to show that I gave it to the postman and showed the receipt with the tracking on it. I can upload those and blur out the other personal information. Proof 1 Proof 2 Proof 3 Proof 4 Proof 5 Proof 6 Proof 7 Proof 8 Proof 9 Proof 10 Proof 11 Proof 12 Proof 13 Proof 14
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fbabkaa
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Unfortunately it is very risky selling used goods online because this type of thing is fairly common, especially with electronics. You can continue to complain and plead your case to Mercari and as someone else mentioned you can sue the customer or perhaps just send a strongly worded letter saying that you intend to sue (and then lay out all the evidence you have) and hope they are scared enough to settle with you to avoid going to court. You could also try to sue Mercari but I imagine their terms of use protects them from this exact type of lawsuit, so that approach is unlikely to go anywhere. I feel for you and you certainly did your best to document everything which will help you in a lawsuit, should you choose to file one.
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> Buyer admitting to causing the fault I don’t really see them admitting to causing a fault there. Why was the tablet not capable of being reset to defaults? I was expecting physical damage based on your description. Is there nothing you can do to get the tablet in working order? Also to save me replying to you twice, in one post you mention ebay would side with you based on your evidence, but ebay is very buyer friendly as well. We see this same type of post from ebay sellers frequently.
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as5v32
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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egsnoos
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egs3d51
| 1,550,577,617 | 1,550,550,150 | 506 | 346 |
I'd be at the police station demanding to speak to the highest ranking official you can find, demanding they remove the intruder from your house and assist you in recovering your property and child. I'd also be pushing for official complaints/sanctions against those officers.
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Is she the mother of your child?
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as5v32
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legaladvice_train
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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egsnoos
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egs8vwf
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I'd be at the police station demanding to speak to the highest ranking official you can find, demanding they remove the intruder from your house and assist you in recovering your property and child. I'd also be pushing for official complaints/sanctions against those officers.
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1. Get a lawyer, possibly two, one for the DV charge and another for the wrongful kickout. 2. How old is your son? Is he old enough to comprehend what is happening and could he be a potential witness for the incident? 3. Does your ex have any custody of your child? 4. Do you own the home or are you renting it? If you are renting, is it possible to contact your landlord to speak with your lawyer as someone who could vouch for you?
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as5v32
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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egsnoos
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Lawyer AND surveillance system AND cloud storage. Asap.
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I'd be at the police station demanding to speak to the highest ranking official you can find, demanding they remove the intruder from your house and assist you in recovering your property and child. I'd also be pushing for official complaints/sanctions against those officers.
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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egs46wg
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I'd be at the police station demanding to speak to the highest ranking official you can find, demanding they remove the intruder from your house and assist you in recovering your property and child. I'd also be pushing for official complaints/sanctions against those officers.
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I am not a lawyer but I'd get a hidden nanny cam and have your phone recording audio whenever you're talking to her without witnesses. Lawyers not a bad idea either
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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egsc9p1
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I'd be at the police station demanding to speak to the highest ranking official you can find, demanding they remove the intruder from your house and assist you in recovering your property and child. I'd also be pushing for official complaints/sanctions against those officers.
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First text her (especially with read receipts) and tell her she is no longer allowed at the house. It is a private space and therefore, until you have security cameras, an area that there are no witnesses. Change the locks on your house and if she breaks in immediately call the cops yourself and tell them that there is someone who has broken into your home and is there without your permission. Explain to your son that until she can behave better that she is not allowed inside. Start documenting all contact with her or that your son has with her. Get security cameras and a way to store all video/audio surveillance. That way if she does come back it is very apparent that she was not invited in and that you did not touch her. Don't be afraid to use your phones camera. If she is in the home or around you trying to cause similar drama, state directly to her that you are recording her actions as she is not truthful. That this is for your protection and if she does not want to be recorded then she needs to leave. You call also file for a restraining/protection order for both you and your son. You'll need a lawyer for this part Though it is hard to enforce in the moment she will go to jail if she is caught violating that order. If you catch her on camera doing this you can turn it into police and then they can issue a warrant for her arrest. Once you have an order of protection for your son you can then speak to a family lawyer and see if there are possible options for changes in visitation/custody. Along with any texts/calls/emails that could potentially show that she is currently behaving dangerously. Inall you want to secure your home, secure the safety of your son and yourself, and then prevent her from acting out again in a similar manner/be able to prove that her accusations are false.
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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egs31qv
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Is she the mother of your child?
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Lawyer AND surveillance system AND cloud storage. Asap.
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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1. Get a lawyer, possibly two, one for the DV charge and another for the wrongful kickout. 2. How old is your son? Is he old enough to comprehend what is happening and could he be a potential witness for the incident? 3. Does your ex have any custody of your child? 4. Do you own the home or are you renting it? If you are renting, is it possible to contact your landlord to speak with your lawyer as someone who could vouch for you?
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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egs46wg
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1. Get a lawyer, possibly two, one for the DV charge and another for the wrongful kickout. 2. How old is your son? Is he old enough to comprehend what is happening and could he be a potential witness for the incident? 3. Does your ex have any custody of your child? 4. Do you own the home or are you renting it? If you are renting, is it possible to contact your landlord to speak with your lawyer as someone who could vouch for you?
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I am not a lawyer but I'd get a hidden nanny cam and have your phone recording audio whenever you're talking to her without witnesses. Lawyers not a bad idea either
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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I am not a lawyer but I'd get a hidden nanny cam and have your phone recording audio whenever you're talking to her without witnesses. Lawyers not a bad idea either
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To clarify and add to what others have said: 1.) Once you get your lawyer, ask whether you should bother filing a police report for trespass. 2.) Once you install cameras, DO NOT TELL HER YOU DID. You probably shouldn't tell your kid what they are. Let her be stupid again on camera. 3.) Once you get back in, check your house to make sure she didn't steal anything while you were kicked out. 4.) Ignore any advice in this thread to contact your ex. Do not, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, contact your ex until you have talked to a lawyer. If a temp restraining order has been filed, it includes contacting her. 5. If you have any bruising or scratches, take pictures. You need to figure out how you are going to prove she didn't live in your house before the incident. That's the lynchpin of your story - because her story falls apart once the lies come out.
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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egsoqei
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To clarify and add to what others have said: 1.) Once you get your lawyer, ask whether you should bother filing a police report for trespass. 2.) Once you install cameras, DO NOT TELL HER YOU DID. You probably shouldn't tell your kid what they are. Let her be stupid again on camera. 3.) Once you get back in, check your house to make sure she didn't steal anything while you were kicked out. 4.) Ignore any advice in this thread to contact your ex. Do not, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, contact your ex until you have talked to a lawyer. If a temp restraining order has been filed, it includes contacting her. 5. If you have any bruising or scratches, take pictures. You need to figure out how you are going to prove she didn't live in your house before the incident. That's the lynchpin of your story - because her story falls apart once the lies come out.
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You might have better luck after the shift change at the police station. For all the law is written in stone there are as many interpretations as interpreters; while looking for lawyers I would simply go back/call back to the police and speak to different ones. File a report about the break-in, starting from scratch with your own story. Try not to muddy it up with explaining to them what the other officers did/said, it makes them have to take sides vs their colleagues and they hate that. Just state that you need to file a report and do it as dispassionately as possible. Ask for their advice, acknowledging that they can't tell you what to do specifically, but just looking for their perspective because they see a lot. Usually that respect is disarming and you'll learn a lot more from them. Then I would consider staying somewhere else for a week or two, both to avoid her and because that's an action a reasonable person would take if their safety was threatened, which is what you need to communicate to everyone involved. It won't be very many more of these events before she'll succeed in framing you- they'll be saying oh you were "so scared" yet you stayed put with your son in the house she "keeps breaking into"? Yeah right there must be more to the story. You need to remove the more to the story, even if it seems extreme to you. Tl;dr: can't start nothing, won't be nothing.
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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egsorki
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To clarify and add to what others have said: 1.) Once you get your lawyer, ask whether you should bother filing a police report for trespass. 2.) Once you install cameras, DO NOT TELL HER YOU DID. You probably shouldn't tell your kid what they are. Let her be stupid again on camera. 3.) Once you get back in, check your house to make sure she didn't steal anything while you were kicked out. 4.) Ignore any advice in this thread to contact your ex. Do not, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, contact your ex until you have talked to a lawyer. If a temp restraining order has been filed, it includes contacting her. 5. If you have any bruising or scratches, take pictures. You need to figure out how you are going to prove she didn't live in your house before the incident. That's the lynchpin of your story - because her story falls apart once the lies come out.
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You already have cameras in front of your house. Seems easy to prove she doesnt live there. CPS should already be involved as per your other posts and should be on your side.
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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egsc9p1
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To clarify and add to what others have said: 1.) Once you get your lawyer, ask whether you should bother filing a police report for trespass. 2.) Once you install cameras, DO NOT TELL HER YOU DID. You probably shouldn't tell your kid what they are. Let her be stupid again on camera. 3.) Once you get back in, check your house to make sure she didn't steal anything while you were kicked out. 4.) Ignore any advice in this thread to contact your ex. Do not, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, contact your ex until you have talked to a lawyer. If a temp restraining order has been filed, it includes contacting her. 5. If you have any bruising or scratches, take pictures. You need to figure out how you are going to prove she didn't live in your house before the incident. That's the lynchpin of your story - because her story falls apart once the lies come out.
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First text her (especially with read receipts) and tell her she is no longer allowed at the house. It is a private space and therefore, until you have security cameras, an area that there are no witnesses. Change the locks on your house and if she breaks in immediately call the cops yourself and tell them that there is someone who has broken into your home and is there without your permission. Explain to your son that until she can behave better that she is not allowed inside. Start documenting all contact with her or that your son has with her. Get security cameras and a way to store all video/audio surveillance. That way if she does come back it is very apparent that she was not invited in and that you did not touch her. Don't be afraid to use your phones camera. If she is in the home or around you trying to cause similar drama, state directly to her that you are recording her actions as she is not truthful. That this is for your protection and if she does not want to be recorded then she needs to leave. You call also file for a restraining/protection order for both you and your son. You'll need a lawyer for this part Though it is hard to enforce in the moment she will go to jail if she is caught violating that order. If you catch her on camera doing this you can turn it into police and then they can issue a warrant for her arrest. Once you have an order of protection for your son you can then speak to a family lawyer and see if there are possible options for changes in visitation/custody. Along with any texts/calls/emails that could potentially show that she is currently behaving dangerously. Inall you want to secure your home, secure the safety of your son and yourself, and then prevent her from acting out again in a similar manner/be able to prove that her accusations are false.
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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egsoqei
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Wait, hold up. You werent arrested so why is there a no contact order? You need to file a police report and have her removed immediately. If she's not on the lease and not even your wife then she's got to go. Get your parenting plan on paper as soon as possible. Forms for your state should be available online. Fill them out, file in an ex parte courtroom and get the summons and date. Then serve her a copy to appear in court. I cant stress that part enough because until it's on paper she can take your child legally and there wont be a thing you can do to get them back without it.
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You might have better luck after the shift change at the police station. For all the law is written in stone there are as many interpretations as interpreters; while looking for lawyers I would simply go back/call back to the police and speak to different ones. File a report about the break-in, starting from scratch with your own story. Try not to muddy it up with explaining to them what the other officers did/said, it makes them have to take sides vs their colleagues and they hate that. Just state that you need to file a report and do it as dispassionately as possible. Ask for their advice, acknowledging that they can't tell you what to do specifically, but just looking for their perspective because they see a lot. Usually that respect is disarming and you'll learn a lot more from them. Then I would consider staying somewhere else for a week or two, both to avoid her and because that's an action a reasonable person would take if their safety was threatened, which is what you need to communicate to everyone involved. It won't be very many more of these events before she'll succeed in framing you- they'll be saying oh you were "so scared" yet you stayed put with your son in the house she "keeps breaking into"? Yeah right there must be more to the story. You need to remove the more to the story, even if it seems extreme to you. Tl;dr: can't start nothing, won't be nothing.
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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egsorki
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Wait, hold up. You werent arrested so why is there a no contact order? You need to file a police report and have her removed immediately. If she's not on the lease and not even your wife then she's got to go. Get your parenting plan on paper as soon as possible. Forms for your state should be available online. Fill them out, file in an ex parte courtroom and get the summons and date. Then serve her a copy to appear in court. I cant stress that part enough because until it's on paper she can take your child legally and there wont be a thing you can do to get them back without it.
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You already have cameras in front of your house. Seems easy to prove she doesnt live there. CPS should already be involved as per your other posts and should be on your side.
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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egss12n
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egsc9p1
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Wait, hold up. You werent arrested so why is there a no contact order? You need to file a police report and have her removed immediately. If she's not on the lease and not even your wife then she's got to go. Get your parenting plan on paper as soon as possible. Forms for your state should be available online. Fill them out, file in an ex parte courtroom and get the summons and date. Then serve her a copy to appear in court. I cant stress that part enough because until it's on paper she can take your child legally and there wont be a thing you can do to get them back without it.
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First text her (especially with read receipts) and tell her she is no longer allowed at the house. It is a private space and therefore, until you have security cameras, an area that there are no witnesses. Change the locks on your house and if she breaks in immediately call the cops yourself and tell them that there is someone who has broken into your home and is there without your permission. Explain to your son that until she can behave better that she is not allowed inside. Start documenting all contact with her or that your son has with her. Get security cameras and a way to store all video/audio surveillance. That way if she does come back it is very apparent that she was not invited in and that you did not touch her. Don't be afraid to use your phones camera. If she is in the home or around you trying to cause similar drama, state directly to her that you are recording her actions as she is not truthful. That this is for your protection and if she does not want to be recorded then she needs to leave. You call also file for a restraining/protection order for both you and your son. You'll need a lawyer for this part Though it is hard to enforce in the moment she will go to jail if she is caught violating that order. If you catch her on camera doing this you can turn it into police and then they can issue a warrant for her arrest. Once you have an order of protection for your son you can then speak to a family lawyer and see if there are possible options for changes in visitation/custody. Along with any texts/calls/emails that could potentially show that she is currently behaving dangerously. Inall you want to secure your home, secure the safety of your son and yourself, and then prevent her from acting out again in a similar manner/be able to prove that her accusations are false.
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as5v32
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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egssbkm
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egssphn
| 1,550,582,762 | 1,550,583,126 | 41 | 59 |
Regardless of if shes the mother or has parental rights, this is legit breaking and entering. Get a lawyer
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Question: Do police not have to confirm property ownership before kicking someone out of a property? I get that it is difficult to instantly accuratly read a situation, but arent there safegaurds in place? Like a cop will ALWAYS ask for drivers license and vehicle registration, a judge will always ask for any written contracts related to a case, its crazy, absolutely crazy that this could even have happened. Its one thing if they beleive he beat her, and took him to jail, but to just give her his house?!?!?!?
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as5v32
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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egsoqei
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egssphn
| 1,550,578,948 | 1,550,583,126 | 19 | 59 |
You might have better luck after the shift change at the police station. For all the law is written in stone there are as many interpretations as interpreters; while looking for lawyers I would simply go back/call back to the police and speak to different ones. File a report about the break-in, starting from scratch with your own story. Try not to muddy it up with explaining to them what the other officers did/said, it makes them have to take sides vs their colleagues and they hate that. Just state that you need to file a report and do it as dispassionately as possible. Ask for their advice, acknowledging that they can't tell you what to do specifically, but just looking for their perspective because they see a lot. Usually that respect is disarming and you'll learn a lot more from them. Then I would consider staying somewhere else for a week or two, both to avoid her and because that's an action a reasonable person would take if their safety was threatened, which is what you need to communicate to everyone involved. It won't be very many more of these events before she'll succeed in framing you- they'll be saying oh you were "so scared" yet you stayed put with your son in the house she "keeps breaking into"? Yeah right there must be more to the story. You need to remove the more to the story, even if it seems extreme to you. Tl;dr: can't start nothing, won't be nothing.
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Question: Do police not have to confirm property ownership before kicking someone out of a property? I get that it is difficult to instantly accuratly read a situation, but arent there safegaurds in place? Like a cop will ALWAYS ask for drivers license and vehicle registration, a judge will always ask for any written contracts related to a case, its crazy, absolutely crazy that this could even have happened. Its one thing if they beleive he beat her, and took him to jail, but to just give her his house?!?!?!?
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as5v32
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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egssphn
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egsorki
| 1,550,583,126 | 1,550,578,986 | 59 | 16 |
Question: Do police not have to confirm property ownership before kicking someone out of a property? I get that it is difficult to instantly accuratly read a situation, but arent there safegaurds in place? Like a cop will ALWAYS ask for drivers license and vehicle registration, a judge will always ask for any written contracts related to a case, its crazy, absolutely crazy that this could even have happened. Its one thing if they beleive he beat her, and took him to jail, but to just give her his house?!?!?!?
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You already have cameras in front of your house. Seems easy to prove she doesnt live there. CPS should already be involved as per your other posts and should be on your side.
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as5v32
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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egsc9p1
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egssphn
| 1,550,559,660 | 1,550,583,126 | 10 | 59 |
First text her (especially with read receipts) and tell her she is no longer allowed at the house. It is a private space and therefore, until you have security cameras, an area that there are no witnesses. Change the locks on your house and if she breaks in immediately call the cops yourself and tell them that there is someone who has broken into your home and is there without your permission. Explain to your son that until she can behave better that she is not allowed inside. Start documenting all contact with her or that your son has with her. Get security cameras and a way to store all video/audio surveillance. That way if she does come back it is very apparent that she was not invited in and that you did not touch her. Don't be afraid to use your phones camera. If she is in the home or around you trying to cause similar drama, state directly to her that you are recording her actions as she is not truthful. That this is for your protection and if she does not want to be recorded then she needs to leave. You call also file for a restraining/protection order for both you and your son. You'll need a lawyer for this part Though it is hard to enforce in the moment she will go to jail if she is caught violating that order. If you catch her on camera doing this you can turn it into police and then they can issue a warrant for her arrest. Once you have an order of protection for your son you can then speak to a family lawyer and see if there are possible options for changes in visitation/custody. Along with any texts/calls/emails that could potentially show that she is currently behaving dangerously. Inall you want to secure your home, secure the safety of your son and yourself, and then prevent her from acting out again in a similar manner/be able to prove that her accusations are false.
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Question: Do police not have to confirm property ownership before kicking someone out of a property? I get that it is difficult to instantly accuratly read a situation, but arent there safegaurds in place? Like a cop will ALWAYS ask for drivers license and vehicle registration, a judge will always ask for any written contracts related to a case, its crazy, absolutely crazy that this could even have happened. Its one thing if they beleive he beat her, and took him to jail, but to just give her his house?!?!?!?
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as5v32
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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egsoqei
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egssbkm
| 1,550,578,948 | 1,550,582,762 | 19 | 41 |
You might have better luck after the shift change at the police station. For all the law is written in stone there are as many interpretations as interpreters; while looking for lawyers I would simply go back/call back to the police and speak to different ones. File a report about the break-in, starting from scratch with your own story. Try not to muddy it up with explaining to them what the other officers did/said, it makes them have to take sides vs their colleagues and they hate that. Just state that you need to file a report and do it as dispassionately as possible. Ask for their advice, acknowledging that they can't tell you what to do specifically, but just looking for their perspective because they see a lot. Usually that respect is disarming and you'll learn a lot more from them. Then I would consider staying somewhere else for a week or two, both to avoid her and because that's an action a reasonable person would take if their safety was threatened, which is what you need to communicate to everyone involved. It won't be very many more of these events before she'll succeed in framing you- they'll be saying oh you were "so scared" yet you stayed put with your son in the house she "keeps breaking into"? Yeah right there must be more to the story. You need to remove the more to the story, even if it seems extreme to you. Tl;dr: can't start nothing, won't be nothing.
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Regardless of if shes the mother or has parental rights, this is legit breaking and entering. Get a lawyer
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as5v32
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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egssbkm
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egsorki
| 1,550,582,762 | 1,550,578,986 | 41 | 16 |
Regardless of if shes the mother or has parental rights, this is legit breaking and entering. Get a lawyer
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You already have cameras in front of your house. Seems easy to prove she doesnt live there. CPS should already be involved as per your other posts and should be on your side.
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as5v32
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legaladvice_train
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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egsc9p1
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egssbkm
| 1,550,559,660 | 1,550,582,762 | 10 | 41 |
First text her (especially with read receipts) and tell her she is no longer allowed at the house. It is a private space and therefore, until you have security cameras, an area that there are no witnesses. Change the locks on your house and if she breaks in immediately call the cops yourself and tell them that there is someone who has broken into your home and is there without your permission. Explain to your son that until she can behave better that she is not allowed inside. Start documenting all contact with her or that your son has with her. Get security cameras and a way to store all video/audio surveillance. That way if she does come back it is very apparent that she was not invited in and that you did not touch her. Don't be afraid to use your phones camera. If she is in the home or around you trying to cause similar drama, state directly to her that you are recording her actions as she is not truthful. That this is for your protection and if she does not want to be recorded then she needs to leave. You call also file for a restraining/protection order for both you and your son. You'll need a lawyer for this part Though it is hard to enforce in the moment she will go to jail if she is caught violating that order. If you catch her on camera doing this you can turn it into police and then they can issue a warrant for her arrest. Once you have an order of protection for your son you can then speak to a family lawyer and see if there are possible options for changes in visitation/custody. Along with any texts/calls/emails that could potentially show that she is currently behaving dangerously. Inall you want to secure your home, secure the safety of your son and yourself, and then prevent her from acting out again in a similar manner/be able to prove that her accusations are false.
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Regardless of if shes the mother or has parental rights, this is legit breaking and entering. Get a lawyer
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as5v32
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legaladvice_train
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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egswlc9
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egsoqei
| 1,550,586,539 | 1,550,578,948 | 23 | 19 |
I am not a lawyer, but I’d be going for full custody and suing the city. Also, file a restraining order. But as others have said, you need a lawyer. She seems...... unstable.
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You might have better luck after the shift change at the police station. For all the law is written in stone there are as many interpretations as interpreters; while looking for lawyers I would simply go back/call back to the police and speak to different ones. File a report about the break-in, starting from scratch with your own story. Try not to muddy it up with explaining to them what the other officers did/said, it makes them have to take sides vs their colleagues and they hate that. Just state that you need to file a report and do it as dispassionately as possible. Ask for their advice, acknowledging that they can't tell you what to do specifically, but just looking for their perspective because they see a lot. Usually that respect is disarming and you'll learn a lot more from them. Then I would consider staying somewhere else for a week or two, both to avoid her and because that's an action a reasonable person would take if their safety was threatened, which is what you need to communicate to everyone involved. It won't be very many more of these events before she'll succeed in framing you- they'll be saying oh you were "so scared" yet you stayed put with your son in the house she "keeps breaking into"? Yeah right there must be more to the story. You need to remove the more to the story, even if it seems extreme to you. Tl;dr: can't start nothing, won't be nothing.
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as5v32
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legaladvice_train
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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egswlc9
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egsorki
| 1,550,586,539 | 1,550,578,986 | 23 | 16 |
I am not a lawyer, but I’d be going for full custody and suing the city. Also, file a restraining order. But as others have said, you need a lawyer. She seems...... unstable.
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You already have cameras in front of your house. Seems easy to prove she doesnt live there. CPS should already be involved as per your other posts and should be on your side.
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as5v32
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legaladvice_train
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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egswlc9
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egsc9p1
| 1,550,586,539 | 1,550,559,660 | 23 | 10 |
I am not a lawyer, but I’d be going for full custody and suing the city. Also, file a restraining order. But as others have said, you need a lawyer. She seems...... unstable.
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First text her (especially with read receipts) and tell her she is no longer allowed at the house. It is a private space and therefore, until you have security cameras, an area that there are no witnesses. Change the locks on your house and if she breaks in immediately call the cops yourself and tell them that there is someone who has broken into your home and is there without your permission. Explain to your son that until she can behave better that she is not allowed inside. Start documenting all contact with her or that your son has with her. Get security cameras and a way to store all video/audio surveillance. That way if she does come back it is very apparent that she was not invited in and that you did not touch her. Don't be afraid to use your phones camera. If she is in the home or around you trying to cause similar drama, state directly to her that you are recording her actions as she is not truthful. That this is for your protection and if she does not want to be recorded then she needs to leave. You call also file for a restraining/protection order for both you and your son. You'll need a lawyer for this part Though it is hard to enforce in the moment she will go to jail if she is caught violating that order. If you catch her on camera doing this you can turn it into police and then they can issue a warrant for her arrest. Once you have an order of protection for your son you can then speak to a family lawyer and see if there are possible options for changes in visitation/custody. Along with any texts/calls/emails that could potentially show that she is currently behaving dangerously. Inall you want to secure your home, secure the safety of your son and yourself, and then prevent her from acting out again in a similar manner/be able to prove that her accusations are false.
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as5v32
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legaladvice_train
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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egsoqei
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egsc9p1
| 1,550,578,948 | 1,550,559,660 | 19 | 10 |
You might have better luck after the shift change at the police station. For all the law is written in stone there are as many interpretations as interpreters; while looking for lawyers I would simply go back/call back to the police and speak to different ones. File a report about the break-in, starting from scratch with your own story. Try not to muddy it up with explaining to them what the other officers did/said, it makes them have to take sides vs their colleagues and they hate that. Just state that you need to file a report and do it as dispassionately as possible. Ask for their advice, acknowledging that they can't tell you what to do specifically, but just looking for their perspective because they see a lot. Usually that respect is disarming and you'll learn a lot more from them. Then I would consider staying somewhere else for a week or two, both to avoid her and because that's an action a reasonable person would take if their safety was threatened, which is what you need to communicate to everyone involved. It won't be very many more of these events before she'll succeed in framing you- they'll be saying oh you were "so scared" yet you stayed put with your son in the house she "keeps breaking into"? Yeah right there must be more to the story. You need to remove the more to the story, even if it seems extreme to you. Tl;dr: can't start nothing, won't be nothing.
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First text her (especially with read receipts) and tell her she is no longer allowed at the house. It is a private space and therefore, until you have security cameras, an area that there are no witnesses. Change the locks on your house and if she breaks in immediately call the cops yourself and tell them that there is someone who has broken into your home and is there without your permission. Explain to your son that until she can behave better that she is not allowed inside. Start documenting all contact with her or that your son has with her. Get security cameras and a way to store all video/audio surveillance. That way if she does come back it is very apparent that she was not invited in and that you did not touch her. Don't be afraid to use your phones camera. If she is in the home or around you trying to cause similar drama, state directly to her that you are recording her actions as she is not truthful. That this is for your protection and if she does not want to be recorded then she needs to leave. You call also file for a restraining/protection order for both you and your son. You'll need a lawyer for this part Though it is hard to enforce in the moment she will go to jail if she is caught violating that order. If you catch her on camera doing this you can turn it into police and then they can issue a warrant for her arrest. Once you have an order of protection for your son you can then speak to a family lawyer and see if there are possible options for changes in visitation/custody. Along with any texts/calls/emails that could potentially show that she is currently behaving dangerously. Inall you want to secure your home, secure the safety of your son and yourself, and then prevent her from acting out again in a similar manner/be able to prove that her accusations are false.
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as5v32
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legaladvice_train
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[MI] Ex is saying that she lives with me and that I’m abusive, police kicked me out of my own house. My ex broke into my house while I was sleeping, I woke up to her watching TV with my son. I took my son in his room and told her that she needed to leave immediately. She starts screaming, telling me to stop hitting her, and she’s sorry, all while hitting me. I DID NOT HIT HER, I’m a big dude and would probably send her flying. I just threw my hands up to avoid any hits to the face/throat area. I ended up putting her in a bear hug to stop all the hitting. Obviously someone called the police because they thought I was murdering her. She told the police that I was her husband, i was drunk, violent, and that she was scared I’d hurt our kid. Police told me to kick rocks and if she had to call again they’d lock me up. I tried to explain that I was the owner of the house and that we weren’t married, they brushed me off. Now she’s in my house with my kid, I can’t go back or else I’m going to jail, and my neighbors think I’m a woman beater. How do I navigate this? Tldr; ex broke in, starts hitting me and screaming, someone calls the police, and i get kicked out of my own house and told to never come back. Ex is still in my house with my son.
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egsorki
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egsc9p1
| 1,550,578,986 | 1,550,559,660 | 16 | 10 |
You already have cameras in front of your house. Seems easy to prove she doesnt live there. CPS should already be involved as per your other posts and should be on your side.
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First text her (especially with read receipts) and tell her she is no longer allowed at the house. It is a private space and therefore, until you have security cameras, an area that there are no witnesses. Change the locks on your house and if she breaks in immediately call the cops yourself and tell them that there is someone who has broken into your home and is there without your permission. Explain to your son that until she can behave better that she is not allowed inside. Start documenting all contact with her or that your son has with her. Get security cameras and a way to store all video/audio surveillance. That way if she does come back it is very apparent that she was not invited in and that you did not touch her. Don't be afraid to use your phones camera. If she is in the home or around you trying to cause similar drama, state directly to her that you are recording her actions as she is not truthful. That this is for your protection and if she does not want to be recorded then she needs to leave. You call also file for a restraining/protection order for both you and your son. You'll need a lawyer for this part Though it is hard to enforce in the moment she will go to jail if she is caught violating that order. If you catch her on camera doing this you can turn it into police and then they can issue a warrant for her arrest. Once you have an order of protection for your son you can then speak to a family lawyer and see if there are possible options for changes in visitation/custody. Along with any texts/calls/emails that could potentially show that she is currently behaving dangerously. Inall you want to secure your home, secure the safety of your son and yourself, and then prevent her from acting out again in a similar manner/be able to prove that her accusations are false.
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4532t6
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legaladvice_train
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Roomate has crazy ex that he bought a home with, had joint banking and multiple bills in his name. He no longer lives there but she is missing payments. How can he get out of this? Roommate is a male 27, Missouri. His ex has cheated on him multiple times and he found out 6-8 months ago. He move out and moved in with me but we are finding out she is not paying some utilities that are in his name and furthermore he still has his name on the house. As soon as he said he was leaving she went and took all the money out of the joint banking account, turns out she went to California a few months ago and is trying to ask him for money now. He has confronted her about it multiple times, she at first was really nice and he thought everything would be fine. 2 months go by and he finds she is missing bills again and he asked her and she says " quit your bitching, it's not like your helping with any bills." At this point I don't know what to tell him other than getting his name off everything he can. Also another side thing she did that I found odd, he took his dog to the vet and she took his name off of ownership and just left her name on the dog even though she isn't the one taking care of it. What is his best option to protect his self?
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czuuhmw
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czuuiyn
| 1,455,120,125 | 1,455,120,182 | 6 | 12 |
Once they missed payments refinance became impossible for 12 months. He needs to force the sale of the home.
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If his name is on the house and bills he is just as responsible for them as she is. First step would be to work with her on selling the house.
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4532t6
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legaladvice_train
| 0.94 |
Roomate has crazy ex that he bought a home with, had joint banking and multiple bills in his name. He no longer lives there but she is missing payments. How can he get out of this? Roommate is a male 27, Missouri. His ex has cheated on him multiple times and he found out 6-8 months ago. He move out and moved in with me but we are finding out she is not paying some utilities that are in his name and furthermore he still has his name on the house. As soon as he said he was leaving she went and took all the money out of the joint banking account, turns out she went to California a few months ago and is trying to ask him for money now. He has confronted her about it multiple times, she at first was really nice and he thought everything would be fine. 2 months go by and he finds she is missing bills again and he asked her and she says " quit your bitching, it's not like your helping with any bills." At this point I don't know what to tell him other than getting his name off everything he can. Also another side thing she did that I found odd, he took his dog to the vet and she took his name off of ownership and just left her name on the dog even though she isn't the one taking care of it. What is his best option to protect his self?
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czv3hw4
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czuuhmw
| 1,455,132,687 | 1,455,120,125 | 8 | 6 |
The house is in his name too, if she's not making payments then it's his responsibility to do so. He should have cancelled the utilities and let her open her own accounts. He also should have taken his half of the joint account money before breaking up with her. Your buddy has made a *lot* of mistakes, and it's going to take a lawyer to resolve them. He's likely going to have to sue her, and in the meantime he needs to be making mortgage payments **now**. He can try to recoup half the payments in court.
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Once they missed payments refinance became impossible for 12 months. He needs to force the sale of the home.
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uq8irk
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legaladvice_train
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My neighbor sued me in land court, won, and now takes pictures of my family and our cars frequently. She's installed cameras facing my house, and a motion light for night time viewing to go off when I walk out around in my yard or out of my house. What can I do? After catching her taking photos last night at 9:45pm of my cars directly in front of my house, I decided to come here. She has been taking photos and videos of my me and my family for about 4 years now, but this motion light and lasts night photo is the tipping point for me. I don't want to get into lawsuit, but I'm at my witts end. **Background:** We have a paper street between our houses (an unaccepted street that exists only on paper in case the municipality decides they need it) that runs down a slight hill and dead ends to a small cliff. This paper street looks like it's my yard and I have to maintain it or poison ivy grows rampant. She has a garage behind her house that acts as the yard/patio for her. It can exist like that because of the hill. 4 years ago the town gave me a variance to build a shed at the end of the paper street. She filed suit, lawyers told me defend myself as (a) the suit is against the town's variance - not me per say - and (b) the law states I own half of that paper street, and the $8k in attorney fees wouldn't be worth it for me as it's an easy win. The town backs out of the lawsuit almost immediately, I move my shed, but she still carries on as she sees this as an opportunity to get easement rights. Her powerhouse attorney doesn't let up (the lawyers I talked to were very surprised that firm took her very minor case, said they were good and very expensive). I lost the case and legally was told I couldn't block this 30 foot width with literally anything or I'll owe her attorney fees for the 18 months this suit carried on (which is like $50k). During that litigation period she was photographing everything I did. Pictures of me, my wife and kids, us with friends, doing chores, playing... you name it. She was the paparazzi. I assumed it was for her arguments. The end of lawsuit didn't end that for whatever reason and then she started taking pictures of our cars. I have just enough room to fit 2 cars in front of my house. If I come home and someone is parked in front of my house, the only other place to park is in front of her house. I wouldnt dare park across that paper street by even an inch and owe $50k (she wouldn't give up the lawsuit so I'm sure she'd love to sue me again to get her money back). I've told everyone don't block this paper street when they come over and so everyone parks in front her house. She hates it and seems to take it personally. I got parking permits for my cars which the police told me "we don't tickets where you live" but better safe than sorry. Any time I park one of my cars in front of her house, she takes pictures of it. If a space opens up in front of my house and I don't move my car immediately, she's out taking photos of the fact I have room in front of my house but I choose to park 45 feet away. (Side story: One time she did this - she took a photo of my house from her car in the pouring rain when my wife was walking by the window breast feeding. I was furious, and ran outside to confront her, but she drove off. I wanted to call in a peeping Tom to the police, but I didn't want to trigger another lawsuit.) If I'm playing with my kids in the paper street with toys, that's a picture. Kids leave a toy in the paper street, that's a picture. After about two years of not being able to get enough photos, she installed cameras to look at house and my yard. She'll likely use the disguise of "security" for over looking this paper street abutting her property, but I know that's not true. A year and a half later (after catching her taking photos of me at night that summer) she installed a motion activated light. It was set to about 30 feet which didn't bother me as it only went off if animals were on her patio, but then had the electrician come back and adjust it to 100 feet. Now it triggers every time I open a door to my house or move on my yard. It spans my whole property. Ideal for pictures and videos. I've only caught her taking photos about 15 times, but I'm sure she has countless more and plenty of well lit videos too. I don't know what she's doing it for, but I know she's not doing it for nothing. She is apparently well off to spend a fortune on the first lawsuit, and I feel like she's getting up for another one. I feel very much harassed and uncomfortable in my own home. The motion light has crossed the line or is the final straw or whatever. What can I do here? What is she doing here?
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i8phli6
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i8pgwaw
| 1,652,629,959 | 1,652,629,654 | 2,496 | 1,744 |
Well you keep saying it’s a paper street, you maintain correct? Let the poison ivy regrow, build a privacy fence, and build a paper road only for your family, and remember to smile and wave for the camera.
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If she's in a place she's allowed to be in, and she's not using extraordinary measures (drones, ladders, etc) she can take whatever photos she wants. Just like you can. This is a very common thing in neighbor disputes. The nice explanation is she wants documentable evidence of wrongdoing on your part. The less nice explanation is she wants to legally harass you into leaving. But there's really nothing you can do about it, other than have privacy fencing or trees installed.
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uq8irk
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legaladvice_train
| 0.97 |
My neighbor sued me in land court, won, and now takes pictures of my family and our cars frequently. She's installed cameras facing my house, and a motion light for night time viewing to go off when I walk out around in my yard or out of my house. What can I do? After catching her taking photos last night at 9:45pm of my cars directly in front of my house, I decided to come here. She has been taking photos and videos of my me and my family for about 4 years now, but this motion light and lasts night photo is the tipping point for me. I don't want to get into lawsuit, but I'm at my witts end. **Background:** We have a paper street between our houses (an unaccepted street that exists only on paper in case the municipality decides they need it) that runs down a slight hill and dead ends to a small cliff. This paper street looks like it's my yard and I have to maintain it or poison ivy grows rampant. She has a garage behind her house that acts as the yard/patio for her. It can exist like that because of the hill. 4 years ago the town gave me a variance to build a shed at the end of the paper street. She filed suit, lawyers told me defend myself as (a) the suit is against the town's variance - not me per say - and (b) the law states I own half of that paper street, and the $8k in attorney fees wouldn't be worth it for me as it's an easy win. The town backs out of the lawsuit almost immediately, I move my shed, but she still carries on as she sees this as an opportunity to get easement rights. Her powerhouse attorney doesn't let up (the lawyers I talked to were very surprised that firm took her very minor case, said they were good and very expensive). I lost the case and legally was told I couldn't block this 30 foot width with literally anything or I'll owe her attorney fees for the 18 months this suit carried on (which is like $50k). During that litigation period she was photographing everything I did. Pictures of me, my wife and kids, us with friends, doing chores, playing... you name it. She was the paparazzi. I assumed it was for her arguments. The end of lawsuit didn't end that for whatever reason and then she started taking pictures of our cars. I have just enough room to fit 2 cars in front of my house. If I come home and someone is parked in front of my house, the only other place to park is in front of her house. I wouldnt dare park across that paper street by even an inch and owe $50k (she wouldn't give up the lawsuit so I'm sure she'd love to sue me again to get her money back). I've told everyone don't block this paper street when they come over and so everyone parks in front her house. She hates it and seems to take it personally. I got parking permits for my cars which the police told me "we don't tickets where you live" but better safe than sorry. Any time I park one of my cars in front of her house, she takes pictures of it. If a space opens up in front of my house and I don't move my car immediately, she's out taking photos of the fact I have room in front of my house but I choose to park 45 feet away. (Side story: One time she did this - she took a photo of my house from her car in the pouring rain when my wife was walking by the window breast feeding. I was furious, and ran outside to confront her, but she drove off. I wanted to call in a peeping Tom to the police, but I didn't want to trigger another lawsuit.) If I'm playing with my kids in the paper street with toys, that's a picture. Kids leave a toy in the paper street, that's a picture. After about two years of not being able to get enough photos, she installed cameras to look at house and my yard. She'll likely use the disguise of "security" for over looking this paper street abutting her property, but I know that's not true. A year and a half later (after catching her taking photos of me at night that summer) she installed a motion activated light. It was set to about 30 feet which didn't bother me as it only went off if animals were on her patio, but then had the electrician come back and adjust it to 100 feet. Now it triggers every time I open a door to my house or move on my yard. It spans my whole property. Ideal for pictures and videos. I've only caught her taking photos about 15 times, but I'm sure she has countless more and plenty of well lit videos too. I don't know what she's doing it for, but I know she's not doing it for nothing. She is apparently well off to spend a fortune on the first lawsuit, and I feel like she's getting up for another one. I feel very much harassed and uncomfortable in my own home. The motion light has crossed the line or is the final straw or whatever. What can I do here? What is she doing here?
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i8pnitm
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i8pqy60
| 1,652,632,511 | 1,652,633,999 | 601 | 779 |
You need to contact a local attorney. You may have a claim for intrusion into seclusion (which can involve the use of tech, floodlights, etc). The fact that she got photos of your wife breastfeeding inside the home is a big thing that can lend to this kind of claim. But, I don't know what your local laws or state laws are regarding this. Please check with your local attorney to see if there is anything that can be done.
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I wonder if you could talk to the city about whether they think they will ever need that street. If they decide they don't need it, they could split it down the middle and deed each half to the adjacent property owners. There's a specific term for when a city does that which I'm blanking on right now. Contact your district’s alderperson and the city's department of public works about the situation and the harassment you're experiencing and whether it's feasible to get rid of the paper street.
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uq8irk
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legaladvice_train
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My neighbor sued me in land court, won, and now takes pictures of my family and our cars frequently. She's installed cameras facing my house, and a motion light for night time viewing to go off when I walk out around in my yard or out of my house. What can I do? After catching her taking photos last night at 9:45pm of my cars directly in front of my house, I decided to come here. She has been taking photos and videos of my me and my family for about 4 years now, but this motion light and lasts night photo is the tipping point for me. I don't want to get into lawsuit, but I'm at my witts end. **Background:** We have a paper street between our houses (an unaccepted street that exists only on paper in case the municipality decides they need it) that runs down a slight hill and dead ends to a small cliff. This paper street looks like it's my yard and I have to maintain it or poison ivy grows rampant. She has a garage behind her house that acts as the yard/patio for her. It can exist like that because of the hill. 4 years ago the town gave me a variance to build a shed at the end of the paper street. She filed suit, lawyers told me defend myself as (a) the suit is against the town's variance - not me per say - and (b) the law states I own half of that paper street, and the $8k in attorney fees wouldn't be worth it for me as it's an easy win. The town backs out of the lawsuit almost immediately, I move my shed, but she still carries on as she sees this as an opportunity to get easement rights. Her powerhouse attorney doesn't let up (the lawyers I talked to were very surprised that firm took her very minor case, said they were good and very expensive). I lost the case and legally was told I couldn't block this 30 foot width with literally anything or I'll owe her attorney fees for the 18 months this suit carried on (which is like $50k). During that litigation period she was photographing everything I did. Pictures of me, my wife and kids, us with friends, doing chores, playing... you name it. She was the paparazzi. I assumed it was for her arguments. The end of lawsuit didn't end that for whatever reason and then she started taking pictures of our cars. I have just enough room to fit 2 cars in front of my house. If I come home and someone is parked in front of my house, the only other place to park is in front of her house. I wouldnt dare park across that paper street by even an inch and owe $50k (she wouldn't give up the lawsuit so I'm sure she'd love to sue me again to get her money back). I've told everyone don't block this paper street when they come over and so everyone parks in front her house. She hates it and seems to take it personally. I got parking permits for my cars which the police told me "we don't tickets where you live" but better safe than sorry. Any time I park one of my cars in front of her house, she takes pictures of it. If a space opens up in front of my house and I don't move my car immediately, she's out taking photos of the fact I have room in front of my house but I choose to park 45 feet away. (Side story: One time she did this - she took a photo of my house from her car in the pouring rain when my wife was walking by the window breast feeding. I was furious, and ran outside to confront her, but she drove off. I wanted to call in a peeping Tom to the police, but I didn't want to trigger another lawsuit.) If I'm playing with my kids in the paper street with toys, that's a picture. Kids leave a toy in the paper street, that's a picture. After about two years of not being able to get enough photos, she installed cameras to look at house and my yard. She'll likely use the disguise of "security" for over looking this paper street abutting her property, but I know that's not true. A year and a half later (after catching her taking photos of me at night that summer) she installed a motion activated light. It was set to about 30 feet which didn't bother me as it only went off if animals were on her patio, but then had the electrician come back and adjust it to 100 feet. Now it triggers every time I open a door to my house or move on my yard. It spans my whole property. Ideal for pictures and videos. I've only caught her taking photos about 15 times, but I'm sure she has countless more and plenty of well lit videos too. I don't know what she's doing it for, but I know she's not doing it for nothing. She is apparently well off to spend a fortune on the first lawsuit, and I feel like she's getting up for another one. I feel very much harassed and uncomfortable in my own home. The motion light has crossed the line or is the final straw or whatever. What can I do here? What is she doing here?
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i8pnfuu
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i8pqy60
| 1,652,632,476 | 1,652,633,999 | 204 | 779 |
I had to look up the term paper street, and land court is not a term I'm familiar with, either. Where are you located?
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I wonder if you could talk to the city about whether they think they will ever need that street. If they decide they don't need it, they could split it down the middle and deed each half to the adjacent property owners. There's a specific term for when a city does that which I'm blanking on right now. Contact your district’s alderperson and the city's department of public works about the situation and the harassment you're experiencing and whether it's feasible to get rid of the paper street.
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uq8irk
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legaladvice_train
| 0.97 |
My neighbor sued me in land court, won, and now takes pictures of my family and our cars frequently. She's installed cameras facing my house, and a motion light for night time viewing to go off when I walk out around in my yard or out of my house. What can I do? After catching her taking photos last night at 9:45pm of my cars directly in front of my house, I decided to come here. She has been taking photos and videos of my me and my family for about 4 years now, but this motion light and lasts night photo is the tipping point for me. I don't want to get into lawsuit, but I'm at my witts end. **Background:** We have a paper street between our houses (an unaccepted street that exists only on paper in case the municipality decides they need it) that runs down a slight hill and dead ends to a small cliff. This paper street looks like it's my yard and I have to maintain it or poison ivy grows rampant. She has a garage behind her house that acts as the yard/patio for her. It can exist like that because of the hill. 4 years ago the town gave me a variance to build a shed at the end of the paper street. She filed suit, lawyers told me defend myself as (a) the suit is against the town's variance - not me per say - and (b) the law states I own half of that paper street, and the $8k in attorney fees wouldn't be worth it for me as it's an easy win. The town backs out of the lawsuit almost immediately, I move my shed, but she still carries on as she sees this as an opportunity to get easement rights. Her powerhouse attorney doesn't let up (the lawyers I talked to were very surprised that firm took her very minor case, said they were good and very expensive). I lost the case and legally was told I couldn't block this 30 foot width with literally anything or I'll owe her attorney fees for the 18 months this suit carried on (which is like $50k). During that litigation period she was photographing everything I did. Pictures of me, my wife and kids, us with friends, doing chores, playing... you name it. She was the paparazzi. I assumed it was for her arguments. The end of lawsuit didn't end that for whatever reason and then she started taking pictures of our cars. I have just enough room to fit 2 cars in front of my house. If I come home and someone is parked in front of my house, the only other place to park is in front of her house. I wouldnt dare park across that paper street by even an inch and owe $50k (she wouldn't give up the lawsuit so I'm sure she'd love to sue me again to get her money back). I've told everyone don't block this paper street when they come over and so everyone parks in front her house. She hates it and seems to take it personally. I got parking permits for my cars which the police told me "we don't tickets where you live" but better safe than sorry. Any time I park one of my cars in front of her house, she takes pictures of it. If a space opens up in front of my house and I don't move my car immediately, she's out taking photos of the fact I have room in front of my house but I choose to park 45 feet away. (Side story: One time she did this - she took a photo of my house from her car in the pouring rain when my wife was walking by the window breast feeding. I was furious, and ran outside to confront her, but she drove off. I wanted to call in a peeping Tom to the police, but I didn't want to trigger another lawsuit.) If I'm playing with my kids in the paper street with toys, that's a picture. Kids leave a toy in the paper street, that's a picture. After about two years of not being able to get enough photos, she installed cameras to look at house and my yard. She'll likely use the disguise of "security" for over looking this paper street abutting her property, but I know that's not true. A year and a half later (after catching her taking photos of me at night that summer) she installed a motion activated light. It was set to about 30 feet which didn't bother me as it only went off if animals were on her patio, but then had the electrician come back and adjust it to 100 feet. Now it triggers every time I open a door to my house or move on my yard. It spans my whole property. Ideal for pictures and videos. I've only caught her taking photos about 15 times, but I'm sure she has countless more and plenty of well lit videos too. I don't know what she's doing it for, but I know she's not doing it for nothing. She is apparently well off to spend a fortune on the first lawsuit, and I feel like she's getting up for another one. I feel very much harassed and uncomfortable in my own home. The motion light has crossed the line or is the final straw or whatever. What can I do here? What is she doing here?
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i8pnitm
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i8pnfuu
| 1,652,632,511 | 1,652,632,476 | 601 | 204 |
You need to contact a local attorney. You may have a claim for intrusion into seclusion (which can involve the use of tech, floodlights, etc). The fact that she got photos of your wife breastfeeding inside the home is a big thing that can lend to this kind of claim. But, I don't know what your local laws or state laws are regarding this. Please check with your local attorney to see if there is anything that can be done.
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I had to look up the term paper street, and land court is not a term I'm familiar with, either. Where are you located?
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7na2k8
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legaladvice_train
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My parents took my money and kicked me out of our home, what are my options? Long story short, my parents wanted to teach me a lesson after I told them I was planning on majoring in something they didn't approve of when I started university next year. They took away my bank card, closed it, then they kicked me out on the street on Christmas Eve. I am in a homeless shelter since then. I tried speaking to the police but thye told me that since the money, which was what I earned from my job, was in a joint account with theirs that I was not entitled to it. Is this true? I also would like clarification, is it legal for my parents to kick me out like this? I am turning 18 in a few days. Nobody seems to want to help me so I am desperate.
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ds06i04
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ds0670k
| 1,514,745,238 | 1,514,744,896 | 477 | 7 |
It isn't legal for them to evict you. Up until age 18 they are required to provide you with housing, food, etc. After you hit 18 they have 30 days (or whatever the legal wait period is to end tenancy is in your state, since you didn't say where) with proper service. Go back to the police and tell them your parents are failing to provide care and have not given legal notice of termination of tenancy. The bad news is this puts you back in their house, which as you know is not a good place to be. However you can pick up your things. Go open your own bank account as soon as you hit 18 and have any future money from any job you might have (or will get) deposited into that.
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Title: **My parents took my money and kicked me out of our home, what are my options?**
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> Long story short, my parents wanted to teach me a lesson after I told them I was planning on majoring in something they didn't approve of when I started university next year. They took away my bank card, closed it, then they kicked me out on the street on Christmas Eve. I am in a homeless shelter since then. I tried speaking to the police but thye told me that since the money, which was what I earned from my job, was in a joint account with theirs that I was not entitled to it. Is this true? I also would like clarification, is it legal for my parents to kick me out like this? I am turning 18 in a few days. Nobody seems to want to help me so I am desperate.
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My parents took my money and kicked me out of our home, what are my options? Long story short, my parents wanted to teach me a lesson after I told them I was planning on majoring in something they didn't approve of when I started university next year. They took away my bank card, closed it, then they kicked me out on the street on Christmas Eve. I am in a homeless shelter since then. I tried speaking to the police but thye told me that since the money, which was what I earned from my job, was in a joint account with theirs that I was not entitled to it. Is this true? I also would like clarification, is it legal for my parents to kick me out like this? I am turning 18 in a few days. Nobody seems to want to help me so I am desperate.
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> Long story short, my parents wanted to teach me a lesson after I told them I was planning on majoring in something they didn't approve of when I started university next year. They took away my bank card, closed it, then they kicked me out on the street on Christmas Eve. I am in a homeless shelter since then. I tried speaking to the police but thye told me that since the money, which was what I earned from my job, was in a joint account with theirs that I was not entitled to it. Is this true? I also would like clarification, is it legal for my parents to kick me out like this? I am turning 18 in a few days. Nobody seems to want to help me so I am desperate.
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Can you tell them you've changed your mind and will major in whatever is acceptable to them? I mean you can play along and enroll in core subjects required of all majors and then once you are more stable and have your money, papers secured, then change your major. If you are still in high school, let your guidance counselor know and see what resources are available.
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My parents took my money and kicked me out of our home, what are my options? Long story short, my parents wanted to teach me a lesson after I told them I was planning on majoring in something they didn't approve of when I started university next year. They took away my bank card, closed it, then they kicked me out on the street on Christmas Eve. I am in a homeless shelter since then. I tried speaking to the police but thye told me that since the money, which was what I earned from my job, was in a joint account with theirs that I was not entitled to it. Is this true? I also would like clarification, is it legal for my parents to kick me out like this? I am turning 18 in a few days. Nobody seems to want to help me so I am desperate.
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Call CPS, you are still a minor and your parents are responsible for your care. Also contact your local legal aid offices, you can sue for the return of your money, get copies of your pay slips from work to prove it was yours, also ask the bank for the account transactions.
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My parents took my money and kicked me out of our home, what are my options? Long story short, my parents wanted to teach me a lesson after I told them I was planning on majoring in something they didn't approve of when I started university next year. They took away my bank card, closed it, then they kicked me out on the street on Christmas Eve. I am in a homeless shelter since then. I tried speaking to the police but thye told me that since the money, which was what I earned from my job, was in a joint account with theirs that I was not entitled to it. Is this true? I also would like clarification, is it legal for my parents to kick me out like this? I am turning 18 in a few days. Nobody seems to want to help me so I am desperate.
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Not sure if you've done this yet, but immediately have your pay method changed if you were doing direct deposit and go and open a new bank account when they open, if you can find one that will allow minors. If you can't open a bank account, you are probably going to want to look into check cards or a prepaid card with fraud protection. (The reason being, you are not going to want to waltz around with loose cash without a secure living arrangement.) Secondly, call the police again and tell them you are illegally evicted as a child. Your parents can't kick you out under 18,and even if you are 18, they still can't evict you without giving notice. If they don't want to do anything, call CPS. If they want to play the asshole game, play it. You can file a lawsuit for the cash and belongings cheaply. You may not win, but with any luck, it will be pretty obvious that your parents siphoned your earnings and are not acting in your best interest. Contact your future college, if you have already been accepted. Colleges don't immediately advertise it, but most have a lot of aid programs. For example, most have free legal counseling services, and they may be able to move you into a dormitory early or advise you on who to contact to secure temporary housing. If you will need a new employer, they may be with that, too. Be aware that your parents might try to screw you by not providing you information needed for FAFSA, so bring this up to your school as well.
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My parents took my money and kicked me out of our home, what are my options? Long story short, my parents wanted to teach me a lesson after I told them I was planning on majoring in something they didn't approve of when I started university next year. They took away my bank card, closed it, then they kicked me out on the street on Christmas Eve. I am in a homeless shelter since then. I tried speaking to the police but thye told me that since the money, which was what I earned from my job, was in a joint account with theirs that I was not entitled to it. Is this true? I also would like clarification, is it legal for my parents to kick me out like this? I am turning 18 in a few days. Nobody seems to want to help me so I am desperate.
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Not sure if you've done this yet, but immediately have your pay method changed if you were doing direct deposit and go and open a new bank account when they open, if you can find one that will allow minors. If you can't open a bank account, you are probably going to want to look into check cards or a prepaid card with fraud protection. (The reason being, you are not going to want to waltz around with loose cash without a secure living arrangement.) Secondly, call the police again and tell them you are illegally evicted as a child. Your parents can't kick you out under 18,and even if you are 18, they still can't evict you without giving notice. If they don't want to do anything, call CPS. If they want to play the asshole game, play it. You can file a lawsuit for the cash and belongings cheaply. You may not win, but with any luck, it will be pretty obvious that your parents siphoned your earnings and are not acting in your best interest. Contact your future college, if you have already been accepted. Colleges don't immediately advertise it, but most have a lot of aid programs. For example, most have free legal counseling services, and they may be able to move you into a dormitory early or advise you on who to contact to secure temporary housing. If you will need a new employer, they may be with that, too. Be aware that your parents might try to screw you by not providing you information needed for FAFSA, so bring this up to your school as well.
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> Long story short, my parents wanted to teach me a lesson after I told them I was planning on majoring in something they didn't approve of when I started university next year. They took away my bank card, closed it, then they kicked me out on the street on Christmas Eve. I am in a homeless shelter since then. I tried speaking to the police but thye told me that since the money, which was what I earned from my job, was in a joint account with theirs that I was not entitled to it. Is this true? I also would like clarification, is it legal for my parents to kick me out like this? I am turning 18 in a few days. Nobody seems to want to help me so I am desperate.
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My parents took my money and kicked me out of our home, what are my options? Long story short, my parents wanted to teach me a lesson after I told them I was planning on majoring in something they didn't approve of when I started university next year. They took away my bank card, closed it, then they kicked me out on the street on Christmas Eve. I am in a homeless shelter since then. I tried speaking to the police but thye told me that since the money, which was what I earned from my job, was in a joint account with theirs that I was not entitled to it. Is this true? I also would like clarification, is it legal for my parents to kick me out like this? I am turning 18 in a few days. Nobody seems to want to help me so I am desperate.
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A) you are under 18,they can't kick you out. B) what state are you in? Even after you turn 18, they need to provide proper notice before they can *petition a judge to have you removed by a sheriff* via a formal eviction. That is, they still can't throw you out like that. The state is important because in CA they have to give you 60 days written notice, in FL they have to give you 15 days,etc. C) call the police again, tell them you have been forcibly thrown out of your home without notice, and get them to help you retrieve your belongings. (and yes, things that belong to you are *yours*, gifts, things bought with your own money, clothing your parents GAVE to you, etc.) D) as others have said, this allows you back in a home you might not want to be in. Continue to contact the shelter and see if that's better. Contact legal aid at your school. There is help out there for you. CPS is another good idea. This may be hard to hear, or you may just not want to believe it... But parents who throw their kid out on the street for things like this are awful parents, and probably horrible people. You are justified in taking whatever steps to deal with this that you need to.
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My parents took my money and kicked me out of our home, what are my options? Long story short, my parents wanted to teach me a lesson after I told them I was planning on majoring in something they didn't approve of when I started university next year. They took away my bank card, closed it, then they kicked me out on the street on Christmas Eve. I am in a homeless shelter since then. I tried speaking to the police but thye told me that since the money, which was what I earned from my job, was in a joint account with theirs that I was not entitled to it. Is this true? I also would like clarification, is it legal for my parents to kick me out like this? I am turning 18 in a few days. Nobody seems to want to help me so I am desperate.
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Title: **My parents took my money and kicked me out of our home, what are my options?**
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> Long story short, my parents wanted to teach me a lesson after I told them I was planning on majoring in something they didn't approve of when I started university next year. They took away my bank card, closed it, then they kicked me out on the street on Christmas Eve. I am in a homeless shelter since then. I tried speaking to the police but thye told me that since the money, which was what I earned from my job, was in a joint account with theirs that I was not entitled to it. Is this true? I also would like clarification, is it legal for my parents to kick me out like this? I am turning 18 in a few days. Nobody seems to want to help me so I am desperate.
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A) you are under 18,they can't kick you out. B) what state are you in? Even after you turn 18, they need to provide proper notice before they can *petition a judge to have you removed by a sheriff* via a formal eviction. That is, they still can't throw you out like that. The state is important because in CA they have to give you 60 days written notice, in FL they have to give you 15 days,etc. C) call the police again, tell them you have been forcibly thrown out of your home without notice, and get them to help you retrieve your belongings. (and yes, things that belong to you are *yours*, gifts, things bought with your own money, clothing your parents GAVE to you, etc.) D) as others have said, this allows you back in a home you might not want to be in. Continue to contact the shelter and see if that's better. Contact legal aid at your school. There is help out there for you. CPS is another good idea. This may be hard to hear, or you may just not want to believe it... But parents who throw their kid out on the street for things like this are awful parents, and probably horrible people. You are justified in taking whatever steps to deal with this that you need to.
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