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gpuo9z | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My grandmother and I made a small nature area on her property by transplanting many flowers and other plants and letting it grow. The neighbor decided he didn't like that and mowed it all down when she wasn't home, is there anything we can do about this? | frowuib | frq7psz | 1,590,346,733 | 1,590,371,920 | 27 | 41 | if it is on her property you can sue for damages. but keep in mind that people don't like to be sued, and this might make things even more uncomfortable. Has she tried speaking with the neighbor and explaining it was a project that she and her grandchild were doing together? | How do you know it was him? Did he admit to it? Did someone see him? Were there cameras or physical evidence? Are you inferring it was him because he's done or threatened things like this before? These are going to matter if you're interested in recovering damages or seeing him prosecuted for his crime. | 0 | 25,187 | 1.518519 |
gpuo9z | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My grandmother and I made a small nature area on her property by transplanting many flowers and other plants and letting it grow. The neighbor decided he didn't like that and mowed it all down when she wasn't home, is there anything we can do about this? | frq2jbx | frowuib | 1,590,368,670 | 1,590,346,733 | 39 | 27 | Is it on the property line? I'm trying to piece together why he would do this? Did he percieve that the flowers were growing over onto his lawn? Was it an easy malicious act for him to commit by mowing just a bit over the line? Or did he full on trespass into the yard with his mower and cut it? | if it is on her property you can sue for damages. but keep in mind that people don't like to be sued, and this might make things even more uncomfortable. Has she tried speaking with the neighbor and explaining it was a project that she and her grandchild were doing together? | 1 | 21,937 | 1.444444 |
yvgw7u | legaladvice_train | 0.87 | Trespassing neighbor doesn't like My "abandoned" vehicle I have an old vehicle I plan on restoring, one day, like you do. Shes not much to look at right now, but she's my favorite. I made some mistakes and didn't have it registered when I parked it in my driveway and just threw a car cover over it. Some time passes, and police show up mentioning that someone complained about an abandoned vehicle. Technically, if it isn't registered, hasn't moved in some time, and is not in a garage, it's classified as abandoned. Apparently tho, the request to investigate came from the Mayor at the time to the head of police, and then down the chain. Titled, insured, and plate installed, some years pass. I want to say I'd noticed the trash bins moved or slightly out of place, but wrote that off as racoons, wind, or misremembering. Had a rough year at work and forgot to renew the tags. Still insured, but the sticker was out of date. 5 years pass, bringing us to the present. My son is old enough to start holding the flashlight while I clean it up, so I remove the dry-rotted tires to put new ones on. Police show up the next day and mention that an email was sent to the city manager about the car being abandoned. The plate cannot be seen from anywhere but directly behind the vehicle, within a less than 3' gap. Allegedly, the trespasser is golfing buddies with the former mayor and current city manager. The insurance never lapsed. I know I'm in the wrong for having letting the registration lapse(that has since been remedied), but is there any legel avenue to have this dropped? One to not pay $250, and two, to not pay the fine because the neighbours a nosy asshole. In York county, South Carolina. Thanks. Edit to add I have just only now installed cameras. | iwenqrw | iwepytw | 1,668,477,470 | 1,668,478,441 | 60 | 99 | It's probably time to add a fence if there isn't one already. Add some no trespassing signs and beware of dog sign. It would be nice if we could leave beartraps without reprocautions. | I doubt if there is much you can do about the citation. If yoy bring proof of registration and insurance, the judge MAY reduce or waive the fine. As for accusing your neighbor of trespassing you have no proof. I would suggest installing cameras on your house. Then IF you catch your neighbor snooping around you can have them trespassed from your property, and arrested/fined for trespassing if they do it again. I would suggest multiple cameras in case the trespasser (whomever it may be), finds and destroys one. Then you can add vandalism/destruction of property to the trespassing charges. | 0 | 971 | 1.65 |
yhkq7i | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My girlfriend went to a lash lift appointment and then needed to go to the hospital, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. She went to her appointment and midway through it became evident to her that the worker did not have proper training for what she needed to do, which was made clear by her asking another worker several times if what she was doing was correct, to which the other worker said "No, you used way too much of the fixing lotion", and in an effort to remove it, she got a bunch of it into my girlfriend's eye. Within the hour after her appointment, she lost vision in that same eye, and had to go to the hospital. She now has a $300 hospital bill to pay on top of the $100 for the appointment, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. We were just looking for a refund on the appointment, didn't even ask for the money for the hospital bill, and we've been met with silence. I'm really just frustrated with the way this has been handled and was curious to know if anyone had any ideas. Thank you! | iuf0h0h | iufbhs4 | 1,667,162,823 | 1,667,167,297 | 314 | 1,468 | Thinking from the business point of view, I’m not surprise they aren’t calling you back. Your girlfriend could have eye damage and future medical bills, and their Refunding the appointment or paying her medical bills could be admission of liability. They may have talked to a lawyer already told them not to say anything to you | Solid advice has been given so far, but I would like to add this. Make sure your girlfriend visits her Primary Care Provider or get a referral to a specialist like an Ophthalmologist. First confirm she has no further damage then what was initially treated at the Hospital. Point being, you would need to confirm if that was the only extent of damage because if you accept for example a $300 - $400 payment from them now, it may exclude them from providing any further compensation for damage yet to be validated. | 0 | 4,474 | 4.675159 |
yhkq7i | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My girlfriend went to a lash lift appointment and then needed to go to the hospital, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. She went to her appointment and midway through it became evident to her that the worker did not have proper training for what she needed to do, which was made clear by her asking another worker several times if what she was doing was correct, to which the other worker said "No, you used way too much of the fixing lotion", and in an effort to remove it, she got a bunch of it into my girlfriend's eye. Within the hour after her appointment, she lost vision in that same eye, and had to go to the hospital. She now has a $300 hospital bill to pay on top of the $100 for the appointment, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. We were just looking for a refund on the appointment, didn't even ask for the money for the hospital bill, and we've been met with silence. I'm really just frustrated with the way this has been handled and was curious to know if anyone had any ideas. Thank you! | iufbhs4 | iuekcl1 | 1,667,167,297 | 1,667,156,447 | 1,468 | 205 | Solid advice has been given so far, but I would like to add this. Make sure your girlfriend visits her Primary Care Provider or get a referral to a specialist like an Ophthalmologist. First confirm she has no further damage then what was initially treated at the Hospital. Point being, you would need to confirm if that was the only extent of damage because if you accept for example a $300 - $400 payment from them now, it may exclude them from providing any further compensation for damage yet to be validated. | Depending on your state the person applying the lashes may require a license. You should make a complaint with the board that provides such licenses as being temporarily blinded is very serious and something that needs to be addressed by whoever licensed them. That's not an expected potential complication and someone else could be permanently harmed. | 1 | 10,850 | 7.160976 |
yhkq7i | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My girlfriend went to a lash lift appointment and then needed to go to the hospital, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. She went to her appointment and midway through it became evident to her that the worker did not have proper training for what she needed to do, which was made clear by her asking another worker several times if what she was doing was correct, to which the other worker said "No, you used way too much of the fixing lotion", and in an effort to remove it, she got a bunch of it into my girlfriend's eye. Within the hour after her appointment, she lost vision in that same eye, and had to go to the hospital. She now has a $300 hospital bill to pay on top of the $100 for the appointment, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. We were just looking for a refund on the appointment, didn't even ask for the money for the hospital bill, and we've been met with silence. I'm really just frustrated with the way this has been handled and was curious to know if anyone had any ideas. Thank you! | iufbhs4 | iufbbjr | 1,667,167,297 | 1,667,167,224 | 1,468 | 71 | Solid advice has been given so far, but I would like to add this. Make sure your girlfriend visits her Primary Care Provider or get a referral to a specialist like an Ophthalmologist. First confirm she has no further damage then what was initially treated at the Hospital. Point being, you would need to confirm if that was the only extent of damage because if you accept for example a $300 - $400 payment from them now, it may exclude them from providing any further compensation for damage yet to be validated. | Is your girlfriends vision permanently gone? Will it be gone for a while? Is this going to affect her job? Call a personal injury lawyer. If she has to take time off work to heal and this greatly affects her life your lawyer will help sue for pain and suffering settlements as well as get your medical bills paid and back pay from not working. Hopefully this business is actually legitimate because then they’ll have insurance. But since they’re not calling back I’m assuming that’s not likely but it may just be scared workers avoiding your calls. Otherwise you can sue them in small claims court like others have suggested. I’d consider sending a certified mail letter with copies of the damages addressed to the business owner. That way you’ll know they got it because they’ll have to sign for it. If all you’re after is getting your bills paid they’ll likely pay it. | 1 | 73 | 20.676056 |
yhkq7i | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My girlfriend went to a lash lift appointment and then needed to go to the hospital, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. She went to her appointment and midway through it became evident to her that the worker did not have proper training for what she needed to do, which was made clear by her asking another worker several times if what she was doing was correct, to which the other worker said "No, you used way too much of the fixing lotion", and in an effort to remove it, she got a bunch of it into my girlfriend's eye. Within the hour after her appointment, she lost vision in that same eye, and had to go to the hospital. She now has a $300 hospital bill to pay on top of the $100 for the appointment, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. We were just looking for a refund on the appointment, didn't even ask for the money for the hospital bill, and we've been met with silence. I'm really just frustrated with the way this has been handled and was curious to know if anyone had any ideas. Thank you! | iufa1hv | iufbhs4 | 1,667,166,694 | 1,667,167,297 | 59 | 1,468 | Not a lawyer But not only do you want to talk to a lawyer, but also want the insurance information for the business. That is why the owner would have such, to cover bills like this. And OP, while you may not want it, you will want the covering of the medical bills. What if her vision does not return or is damaged badly, then what? | Solid advice has been given so far, but I would like to add this. Make sure your girlfriend visits her Primary Care Provider or get a referral to a specialist like an Ophthalmologist. First confirm she has no further damage then what was initially treated at the Hospital. Point being, you would need to confirm if that was the only extent of damage because if you accept for example a $300 - $400 payment from them now, it may exclude them from providing any further compensation for damage yet to be validated. | 0 | 603 | 24.881356 |
yhkq7i | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My girlfriend went to a lash lift appointment and then needed to go to the hospital, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. She went to her appointment and midway through it became evident to her that the worker did not have proper training for what she needed to do, which was made clear by her asking another worker several times if what she was doing was correct, to which the other worker said "No, you used way too much of the fixing lotion", and in an effort to remove it, she got a bunch of it into my girlfriend's eye. Within the hour after her appointment, she lost vision in that same eye, and had to go to the hospital. She now has a $300 hospital bill to pay on top of the $100 for the appointment, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. We were just looking for a refund on the appointment, didn't even ask for the money for the hospital bill, and we've been met with silence. I'm really just frustrated with the way this has been handled and was curious to know if anyone had any ideas. Thank you! | iuf5c52 | iufbhs4 | 1,667,164,798 | 1,667,167,297 | 15 | 1,468 | Lawyer | Solid advice has been given so far, but I would like to add this. Make sure your girlfriend visits her Primary Care Provider or get a referral to a specialist like an Ophthalmologist. First confirm she has no further damage then what was initially treated at the Hospital. Point being, you would need to confirm if that was the only extent of damage because if you accept for example a $300 - $400 payment from them now, it may exclude them from providing any further compensation for damage yet to be validated. | 0 | 2,499 | 97.866667 |
yhkq7i | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My girlfriend went to a lash lift appointment and then needed to go to the hospital, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. She went to her appointment and midway through it became evident to her that the worker did not have proper training for what she needed to do, which was made clear by her asking another worker several times if what she was doing was correct, to which the other worker said "No, you used way too much of the fixing lotion", and in an effort to remove it, she got a bunch of it into my girlfriend's eye. Within the hour after her appointment, she lost vision in that same eye, and had to go to the hospital. She now has a $300 hospital bill to pay on top of the $100 for the appointment, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. We were just looking for a refund on the appointment, didn't even ask for the money for the hospital bill, and we've been met with silence. I'm really just frustrated with the way this has been handled and was curious to know if anyone had any ideas. Thank you! | iuekcl1 | iuf0h0h | 1,667,156,447 | 1,667,162,823 | 205 | 314 | Depending on your state the person applying the lashes may require a license. You should make a complaint with the board that provides such licenses as being temporarily blinded is very serious and something that needs to be addressed by whoever licensed them. That's not an expected potential complication and someone else could be permanently harmed. | Thinking from the business point of view, I’m not surprise they aren’t calling you back. Your girlfriend could have eye damage and future medical bills, and their Refunding the appointment or paying her medical bills could be admission of liability. They may have talked to a lawyer already told them not to say anything to you | 0 | 6,376 | 1.531707 |
yhkq7i | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My girlfriend went to a lash lift appointment and then needed to go to the hospital, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. She went to her appointment and midway through it became evident to her that the worker did not have proper training for what she needed to do, which was made clear by her asking another worker several times if what she was doing was correct, to which the other worker said "No, you used way too much of the fixing lotion", and in an effort to remove it, she got a bunch of it into my girlfriend's eye. Within the hour after her appointment, she lost vision in that same eye, and had to go to the hospital. She now has a $300 hospital bill to pay on top of the $100 for the appointment, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. We were just looking for a refund on the appointment, didn't even ask for the money for the hospital bill, and we've been met with silence. I'm really just frustrated with the way this has been handled and was curious to know if anyone had any ideas. Thank you! | iufa1hv | iufbbjr | 1,667,166,694 | 1,667,167,224 | 59 | 71 | Not a lawyer But not only do you want to talk to a lawyer, but also want the insurance information for the business. That is why the owner would have such, to cover bills like this. And OP, while you may not want it, you will want the covering of the medical bills. What if her vision does not return or is damaged badly, then what? | Is your girlfriends vision permanently gone? Will it be gone for a while? Is this going to affect her job? Call a personal injury lawyer. If she has to take time off work to heal and this greatly affects her life your lawyer will help sue for pain and suffering settlements as well as get your medical bills paid and back pay from not working. Hopefully this business is actually legitimate because then they’ll have insurance. But since they’re not calling back I’m assuming that’s not likely but it may just be scared workers avoiding your calls. Otherwise you can sue them in small claims court like others have suggested. I’d consider sending a certified mail letter with copies of the damages addressed to the business owner. That way you’ll know they got it because they’ll have to sign for it. If all you’re after is getting your bills paid they’ll likely pay it. | 0 | 530 | 1.20339 |
yhkq7i | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My girlfriend went to a lash lift appointment and then needed to go to the hospital, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. She went to her appointment and midway through it became evident to her that the worker did not have proper training for what she needed to do, which was made clear by her asking another worker several times if what she was doing was correct, to which the other worker said "No, you used way too much of the fixing lotion", and in an effort to remove it, she got a bunch of it into my girlfriend's eye. Within the hour after her appointment, she lost vision in that same eye, and had to go to the hospital. She now has a $300 hospital bill to pay on top of the $100 for the appointment, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. We were just looking for a refund on the appointment, didn't even ask for the money for the hospital bill, and we've been met with silence. I'm really just frustrated with the way this has been handled and was curious to know if anyone had any ideas. Thank you! | iuf5c52 | iufbbjr | 1,667,164,798 | 1,667,167,224 | 15 | 71 | Lawyer | Is your girlfriends vision permanently gone? Will it be gone for a while? Is this going to affect her job? Call a personal injury lawyer. If she has to take time off work to heal and this greatly affects her life your lawyer will help sue for pain and suffering settlements as well as get your medical bills paid and back pay from not working. Hopefully this business is actually legitimate because then they’ll have insurance. But since they’re not calling back I’m assuming that’s not likely but it may just be scared workers avoiding your calls. Otherwise you can sue them in small claims court like others have suggested. I’d consider sending a certified mail letter with copies of the damages addressed to the business owner. That way you’ll know they got it because they’ll have to sign for it. If all you’re after is getting your bills paid they’ll likely pay it. | 0 | 2,426 | 4.733333 |
yhkq7i | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My girlfriend went to a lash lift appointment and then needed to go to the hospital, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. She went to her appointment and midway through it became evident to her that the worker did not have proper training for what she needed to do, which was made clear by her asking another worker several times if what she was doing was correct, to which the other worker said "No, you used way too much of the fixing lotion", and in an effort to remove it, she got a bunch of it into my girlfriend's eye. Within the hour after her appointment, she lost vision in that same eye, and had to go to the hospital. She now has a $300 hospital bill to pay on top of the $100 for the appointment, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. We were just looking for a refund on the appointment, didn't even ask for the money for the hospital bill, and we've been met with silence. I'm really just frustrated with the way this has been handled and was curious to know if anyone had any ideas. Thank you! | iufa1hv | iuf5c52 | 1,667,166,694 | 1,667,164,798 | 59 | 15 | Not a lawyer But not only do you want to talk to a lawyer, but also want the insurance information for the business. That is why the owner would have such, to cover bills like this. And OP, while you may not want it, you will want the covering of the medical bills. What if her vision does not return or is damaged badly, then what? | Lawyer | 1 | 1,896 | 3.933333 |
yhkq7i | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My girlfriend went to a lash lift appointment and then needed to go to the hospital, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. She went to her appointment and midway through it became evident to her that the worker did not have proper training for what she needed to do, which was made clear by her asking another worker several times if what she was doing was correct, to which the other worker said "No, you used way too much of the fixing lotion", and in an effort to remove it, she got a bunch of it into my girlfriend's eye. Within the hour after her appointment, she lost vision in that same eye, and had to go to the hospital. She now has a $300 hospital bill to pay on top of the $100 for the appointment, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. We were just looking for a refund on the appointment, didn't even ask for the money for the hospital bill, and we've been met with silence. I'm really just frustrated with the way this has been handled and was curious to know if anyone had any ideas. Thank you! | iuf5c52 | iufxo3a | 1,667,164,798 | 1,667,177,161 | 15 | 17 | Lawyer | Don’t mess around with eyesight. Make sure she sees an optometrist and/or ophthalmologist for a follow-up visit, even if the ED said she didn’t need to. | 0 | 12,363 | 1.133333 |
yhkq7i | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My girlfriend went to a lash lift appointment and then needed to go to the hospital, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. She went to her appointment and midway through it became evident to her that the worker did not have proper training for what she needed to do, which was made clear by her asking another worker several times if what she was doing was correct, to which the other worker said "No, you used way too much of the fixing lotion", and in an effort to remove it, she got a bunch of it into my girlfriend's eye. Within the hour after her appointment, she lost vision in that same eye, and had to go to the hospital. She now has a $300 hospital bill to pay on top of the $100 for the appointment, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. We were just looking for a refund on the appointment, didn't even ask for the money for the hospital bill, and we've been met with silence. I'm really just frustrated with the way this has been handled and was curious to know if anyone had any ideas. Thank you! | iufgns3 | iufxo3a | 1,667,169,518 | 1,667,177,161 | 12 | 17 | They should have business insurance to cover things like this. How is her eye | Don’t mess around with eyesight. Make sure she sees an optometrist and/or ophthalmologist for a follow-up visit, even if the ED said she didn’t need to. | 0 | 7,643 | 1.416667 |
yhkq7i | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My girlfriend went to a lash lift appointment and then needed to go to the hospital, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. She went to her appointment and midway through it became evident to her that the worker did not have proper training for what she needed to do, which was made clear by her asking another worker several times if what she was doing was correct, to which the other worker said "No, you used way too much of the fixing lotion", and in an effort to remove it, she got a bunch of it into my girlfriend's eye. Within the hour after her appointment, she lost vision in that same eye, and had to go to the hospital. She now has a $300 hospital bill to pay on top of the $100 for the appointment, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. We were just looking for a refund on the appointment, didn't even ask for the money for the hospital bill, and we've been met with silence. I'm really just frustrated with the way this has been handled and was curious to know if anyone had any ideas. Thank you! | iufxo3a | iufxo4d | 1,667,177,161 | 1,667,177,161 | 17 | 8 | Don’t mess around with eyesight. Make sure she sees an optometrist and/or ophthalmologist for a follow-up visit, even if the ED said she didn’t need to. | Like people said earlier - attorney general’s consumer protection division. Was this person even licensed? | 1 | 0 | 2.125 |
yhkq7i | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My girlfriend went to a lash lift appointment and then needed to go to the hospital, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. She went to her appointment and midway through it became evident to her that the worker did not have proper training for what she needed to do, which was made clear by her asking another worker several times if what she was doing was correct, to which the other worker said "No, you used way too much of the fixing lotion", and in an effort to remove it, she got a bunch of it into my girlfriend's eye. Within the hour after her appointment, she lost vision in that same eye, and had to go to the hospital. She now has a $300 hospital bill to pay on top of the $100 for the appointment, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. We were just looking for a refund on the appointment, didn't even ask for the money for the hospital bill, and we've been met with silence. I'm really just frustrated with the way this has been handled and was curious to know if anyone had any ideas. Thank you! | iufgns3 | iuhgkq8 | 1,667,169,518 | 1,667,214,948 | 12 | 13 | They should have business insurance to cover things like this. How is her eye | Do not mess around! This is VERY SERIOUS!! Your GF needs to go to an ophthalmologist ASAP. She needs to find out what got in her eyes. Contact an attorney ASAP with experience in medical personal injury. You can contact the state bar or contact a well established large law firm. The owner & stylist is responsible for your GF's injuries. It's serious to injure a person like this. Both have mandatory reporting to OSHA and other state organizations. Contact the State Board of Barbering and Cosmetology and file complaints. You will need the name of the salon and the person who did the procedure. Many states require a specialty certificate for lash extensions. By law the person who applied the lashes has to be a liscensed cosmetologist. Go to the salon in person, or have one of your GF's friends go. Get pictures of the salons cosmetology liscense, as well as a picture of the person's cosmetology liscense who did the procedure. Find out who the owners, and managers are. FYI - Every cosmetology liscense for every person working in the salon needs to be displayed in an obvious manner. Call the health department and file a complaint there. Call Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) for your state and file a complaint. Let them know that the owner knew that your GF was injured and is attempting to dodge responsiblity and is not returning calls. The owner should be calling to check on your GF, offering to help, and making sure she is OK. Stylists are required to familiarize themselves with the chemicals that are present in their products prior to using them on their clients. OSHA requires stylists to read the labels and Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) that come with each product Hair stylists and salon owners are required to maintain detailed records of any injuries that occur within the salon, whether to an employee, stylist or client. OSHA regulations require the recording and reporting of all incidents that result in medical treatment for injuries requiring a licensed physician's diagnosis. DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING the owner gives you, or your GF. Do not engage them in any discussions other than to obtain factual info. I was getting my hair highlighted and the hairdresser wasn't paying attention and got bleach in my eyes The hairdresser had me rinse everything off but it was obvious that something was very wrong. She tried to make it seem it was not a big deal, and insisted It should feel better soon. I had her rinse my hair immediately and I went to the ER. The ER was excellent. They contacted the poison control center and got the name of exact substances used from the salon. The ER directed me to a speciality ophthalmologist for follow up. It's a good thing I went. It turned out that I had chemical burns to my corneas. Because of this I had to go to the ophthalmologist everyday to get treatment to avoid infection and scarring. I spent several days in a dark room while my eyes healed. To this day I have issues with my vision. I never would have know this & gotten correct treatment unless I had gone to the ophthalmologist. So... please get your GF to a ophthalmologist. She needs to find out if there is any additional or potential long term issues with her eyes. Get an attorney. Sorry for typos on my phone To add: Examining eyes requires speciality equipment many ER's, or PCP's do not have on site. Don't mess around with your vision. | 0 | 45,430 | 1.083333 |
yhkq7i | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My girlfriend went to a lash lift appointment and then needed to go to the hospital, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. She went to her appointment and midway through it became evident to her that the worker did not have proper training for what she needed to do, which was made clear by her asking another worker several times if what she was doing was correct, to which the other worker said "No, you used way too much of the fixing lotion", and in an effort to remove it, she got a bunch of it into my girlfriend's eye. Within the hour after her appointment, she lost vision in that same eye, and had to go to the hospital. She now has a $300 hospital bill to pay on top of the $100 for the appointment, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. We were just looking for a refund on the appointment, didn't even ask for the money for the hospital bill, and we've been met with silence. I'm really just frustrated with the way this has been handled and was curious to know if anyone had any ideas. Thank you! | iughs81 | iuhgkq8 | 1,667,186,828 | 1,667,214,948 | 10 | 13 | It couldn't have possibly cost just $300 to go to the hospital. You will surely be getting more bills later. The facility and various groups that represent physicians often send separate bills at different times. It cost nearly 2/3 of that for me to go to a regular doctor during business hours and have a bit of glue put on a cut. There is no way you saw an ophthalmologist in an emergency care setting for anywhere near that amount. Additionally, are you going to need future treatment? Has the vision been 100% restored? What was the explanation for what happened and how/when it will recover? Make sure you are aware of future treatment needs and any permanent loss of function that may be possible before deciding how to proceed. If she didn't get a good explanation or see a specialist in the hospital, schedule an appointment with a board-certified ophthalmologist and get the diagnosis and prognosis in writing. The $100 for the appointment you can fix easily by disputing with your card issuer, unless you paid cash. If it is a check you can of course stop payment if it hasn't cleared. If you do sue them, the amount you will be suing for will be larger than than what you paid out of pocket, because your health insurance has a right to be repaid for what they paid toward the care caused by the store's negligence. For this reason your attorney will need to coordinate any settlements with them to make sure you are getting the most you can out of it. | Do not mess around! This is VERY SERIOUS!! Your GF needs to go to an ophthalmologist ASAP. She needs to find out what got in her eyes. Contact an attorney ASAP with experience in medical personal injury. You can contact the state bar or contact a well established large law firm. The owner & stylist is responsible for your GF's injuries. It's serious to injure a person like this. Both have mandatory reporting to OSHA and other state organizations. Contact the State Board of Barbering and Cosmetology and file complaints. You will need the name of the salon and the person who did the procedure. Many states require a specialty certificate for lash extensions. By law the person who applied the lashes has to be a liscensed cosmetologist. Go to the salon in person, or have one of your GF's friends go. Get pictures of the salons cosmetology liscense, as well as a picture of the person's cosmetology liscense who did the procedure. Find out who the owners, and managers are. FYI - Every cosmetology liscense for every person working in the salon needs to be displayed in an obvious manner. Call the health department and file a complaint there. Call Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) for your state and file a complaint. Let them know that the owner knew that your GF was injured and is attempting to dodge responsiblity and is not returning calls. The owner should be calling to check on your GF, offering to help, and making sure she is OK. Stylists are required to familiarize themselves with the chemicals that are present in their products prior to using them on their clients. OSHA requires stylists to read the labels and Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) that come with each product Hair stylists and salon owners are required to maintain detailed records of any injuries that occur within the salon, whether to an employee, stylist or client. OSHA regulations require the recording and reporting of all incidents that result in medical treatment for injuries requiring a licensed physician's diagnosis. DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING the owner gives you, or your GF. Do not engage them in any discussions other than to obtain factual info. I was getting my hair highlighted and the hairdresser wasn't paying attention and got bleach in my eyes The hairdresser had me rinse everything off but it was obvious that something was very wrong. She tried to make it seem it was not a big deal, and insisted It should feel better soon. I had her rinse my hair immediately and I went to the ER. The ER was excellent. They contacted the poison control center and got the name of exact substances used from the salon. The ER directed me to a speciality ophthalmologist for follow up. It's a good thing I went. It turned out that I had chemical burns to my corneas. Because of this I had to go to the ophthalmologist everyday to get treatment to avoid infection and scarring. I spent several days in a dark room while my eyes healed. To this day I have issues with my vision. I never would have know this & gotten correct treatment unless I had gone to the ophthalmologist. So... please get your GF to a ophthalmologist. She needs to find out if there is any additional or potential long term issues with her eyes. Get an attorney. Sorry for typos on my phone To add: Examining eyes requires speciality equipment many ER's, or PCP's do not have on site. Don't mess around with your vision. | 0 | 28,120 | 1.3 |
yhkq7i | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My girlfriend went to a lash lift appointment and then needed to go to the hospital, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. She went to her appointment and midway through it became evident to her that the worker did not have proper training for what she needed to do, which was made clear by her asking another worker several times if what she was doing was correct, to which the other worker said "No, you used way too much of the fixing lotion", and in an effort to remove it, she got a bunch of it into my girlfriend's eye. Within the hour after her appointment, she lost vision in that same eye, and had to go to the hospital. She now has a $300 hospital bill to pay on top of the $100 for the appointment, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. We were just looking for a refund on the appointment, didn't even ask for the money for the hospital bill, and we've been met with silence. I'm really just frustrated with the way this has been handled and was curious to know if anyone had any ideas. Thank you! | iufxo4d | iuhgkq8 | 1,667,177,161 | 1,667,214,948 | 8 | 13 | Like people said earlier - attorney general’s consumer protection division. Was this person even licensed? | Do not mess around! This is VERY SERIOUS!! Your GF needs to go to an ophthalmologist ASAP. She needs to find out what got in her eyes. Contact an attorney ASAP with experience in medical personal injury. You can contact the state bar or contact a well established large law firm. The owner & stylist is responsible for your GF's injuries. It's serious to injure a person like this. Both have mandatory reporting to OSHA and other state organizations. Contact the State Board of Barbering and Cosmetology and file complaints. You will need the name of the salon and the person who did the procedure. Many states require a specialty certificate for lash extensions. By law the person who applied the lashes has to be a liscensed cosmetologist. Go to the salon in person, or have one of your GF's friends go. Get pictures of the salons cosmetology liscense, as well as a picture of the person's cosmetology liscense who did the procedure. Find out who the owners, and managers are. FYI - Every cosmetology liscense for every person working in the salon needs to be displayed in an obvious manner. Call the health department and file a complaint there. Call Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) for your state and file a complaint. Let them know that the owner knew that your GF was injured and is attempting to dodge responsiblity and is not returning calls. The owner should be calling to check on your GF, offering to help, and making sure she is OK. Stylists are required to familiarize themselves with the chemicals that are present in their products prior to using them on their clients. OSHA requires stylists to read the labels and Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) that come with each product Hair stylists and salon owners are required to maintain detailed records of any injuries that occur within the salon, whether to an employee, stylist or client. OSHA regulations require the recording and reporting of all incidents that result in medical treatment for injuries requiring a licensed physician's diagnosis. DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING the owner gives you, or your GF. Do not engage them in any discussions other than to obtain factual info. I was getting my hair highlighted and the hairdresser wasn't paying attention and got bleach in my eyes The hairdresser had me rinse everything off but it was obvious that something was very wrong. She tried to make it seem it was not a big deal, and insisted It should feel better soon. I had her rinse my hair immediately and I went to the ER. The ER was excellent. They contacted the poison control center and got the name of exact substances used from the salon. The ER directed me to a speciality ophthalmologist for follow up. It's a good thing I went. It turned out that I had chemical burns to my corneas. Because of this I had to go to the ophthalmologist everyday to get treatment to avoid infection and scarring. I spent several days in a dark room while my eyes healed. To this day I have issues with my vision. I never would have know this & gotten correct treatment unless I had gone to the ophthalmologist. So... please get your GF to a ophthalmologist. She needs to find out if there is any additional or potential long term issues with her eyes. Get an attorney. Sorry for typos on my phone To add: Examining eyes requires speciality equipment many ER's, or PCP's do not have on site. Don't mess around with your vision. | 0 | 37,787 | 1.625 |
yhkq7i | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My girlfriend went to a lash lift appointment and then needed to go to the hospital, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. She went to her appointment and midway through it became evident to her that the worker did not have proper training for what she needed to do, which was made clear by her asking another worker several times if what she was doing was correct, to which the other worker said "No, you used way too much of the fixing lotion", and in an effort to remove it, she got a bunch of it into my girlfriend's eye. Within the hour after her appointment, she lost vision in that same eye, and had to go to the hospital. She now has a $300 hospital bill to pay on top of the $100 for the appointment, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. We were just looking for a refund on the appointment, didn't even ask for the money for the hospital bill, and we've been met with silence. I'm really just frustrated with the way this has been handled and was curious to know if anyone had any ideas. Thank you! | iuhgkq8 | iugj2k5 | 1,667,214,948 | 1,667,187,544 | 13 | 6 | Do not mess around! This is VERY SERIOUS!! Your GF needs to go to an ophthalmologist ASAP. She needs to find out what got in her eyes. Contact an attorney ASAP with experience in medical personal injury. You can contact the state bar or contact a well established large law firm. The owner & stylist is responsible for your GF's injuries. It's serious to injure a person like this. Both have mandatory reporting to OSHA and other state organizations. Contact the State Board of Barbering and Cosmetology and file complaints. You will need the name of the salon and the person who did the procedure. Many states require a specialty certificate for lash extensions. By law the person who applied the lashes has to be a liscensed cosmetologist. Go to the salon in person, or have one of your GF's friends go. Get pictures of the salons cosmetology liscense, as well as a picture of the person's cosmetology liscense who did the procedure. Find out who the owners, and managers are. FYI - Every cosmetology liscense for every person working in the salon needs to be displayed in an obvious manner. Call the health department and file a complaint there. Call Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) for your state and file a complaint. Let them know that the owner knew that your GF was injured and is attempting to dodge responsiblity and is not returning calls. The owner should be calling to check on your GF, offering to help, and making sure she is OK. Stylists are required to familiarize themselves with the chemicals that are present in their products prior to using them on their clients. OSHA requires stylists to read the labels and Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) that come with each product Hair stylists and salon owners are required to maintain detailed records of any injuries that occur within the salon, whether to an employee, stylist or client. OSHA regulations require the recording and reporting of all incidents that result in medical treatment for injuries requiring a licensed physician's diagnosis. DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING the owner gives you, or your GF. Do not engage them in any discussions other than to obtain factual info. I was getting my hair highlighted and the hairdresser wasn't paying attention and got bleach in my eyes The hairdresser had me rinse everything off but it was obvious that something was very wrong. She tried to make it seem it was not a big deal, and insisted It should feel better soon. I had her rinse my hair immediately and I went to the ER. The ER was excellent. They contacted the poison control center and got the name of exact substances used from the salon. The ER directed me to a speciality ophthalmologist for follow up. It's a good thing I went. It turned out that I had chemical burns to my corneas. Because of this I had to go to the ophthalmologist everyday to get treatment to avoid infection and scarring. I spent several days in a dark room while my eyes healed. To this day I have issues with my vision. I never would have know this & gotten correct treatment unless I had gone to the ophthalmologist. So... please get your GF to a ophthalmologist. She needs to find out if there is any additional or potential long term issues with her eyes. Get an attorney. Sorry for typos on my phone To add: Examining eyes requires speciality equipment many ER's, or PCP's do not have on site. Don't mess around with your vision. | I am not a lawyer but she needs to see a trained ophthalmologist to monitor the follow up health of her corneas, retinas, and everything in between - there might be an eye hospital in your area | 1 | 27,404 | 2.166667 |
yhkq7i | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My girlfriend went to a lash lift appointment and then needed to go to the hospital, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. She went to her appointment and midway through it became evident to her that the worker did not have proper training for what she needed to do, which was made clear by her asking another worker several times if what she was doing was correct, to which the other worker said "No, you used way too much of the fixing lotion", and in an effort to remove it, she got a bunch of it into my girlfriend's eye. Within the hour after her appointment, she lost vision in that same eye, and had to go to the hospital. She now has a $300 hospital bill to pay on top of the $100 for the appointment, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. We were just looking for a refund on the appointment, didn't even ask for the money for the hospital bill, and we've been met with silence. I'm really just frustrated with the way this has been handled and was curious to know if anyone had any ideas. Thank you! | iughs81 | iufxo4d | 1,667,186,828 | 1,667,177,161 | 10 | 8 | It couldn't have possibly cost just $300 to go to the hospital. You will surely be getting more bills later. The facility and various groups that represent physicians often send separate bills at different times. It cost nearly 2/3 of that for me to go to a regular doctor during business hours and have a bit of glue put on a cut. There is no way you saw an ophthalmologist in an emergency care setting for anywhere near that amount. Additionally, are you going to need future treatment? Has the vision been 100% restored? What was the explanation for what happened and how/when it will recover? Make sure you are aware of future treatment needs and any permanent loss of function that may be possible before deciding how to proceed. If she didn't get a good explanation or see a specialist in the hospital, schedule an appointment with a board-certified ophthalmologist and get the diagnosis and prognosis in writing. The $100 for the appointment you can fix easily by disputing with your card issuer, unless you paid cash. If it is a check you can of course stop payment if it hasn't cleared. If you do sue them, the amount you will be suing for will be larger than than what you paid out of pocket, because your health insurance has a right to be repaid for what they paid toward the care caused by the store's negligence. For this reason your attorney will need to coordinate any settlements with them to make sure you are getting the most you can out of it. | Like people said earlier - attorney general’s consumer protection division. Was this person even licensed? | 1 | 9,667 | 1.25 |
yhkq7i | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My girlfriend went to a lash lift appointment and then needed to go to the hospital, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. She went to her appointment and midway through it became evident to her that the worker did not have proper training for what she needed to do, which was made clear by her asking another worker several times if what she was doing was correct, to which the other worker said "No, you used way too much of the fixing lotion", and in an effort to remove it, she got a bunch of it into my girlfriend's eye. Within the hour after her appointment, she lost vision in that same eye, and had to go to the hospital. She now has a $300 hospital bill to pay on top of the $100 for the appointment, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. We were just looking for a refund on the appointment, didn't even ask for the money for the hospital bill, and we've been met with silence. I'm really just frustrated with the way this has been handled and was curious to know if anyone had any ideas. Thank you! | iui2122 | iuhwb26 | 1,667,226,313 | 1,667,223,781 | 5 | 3 | Honey, they blinded your girlfriend and made her pay money for it. You should be seeking damages. Talk to the local PD and see if you can file a report with them, take everything to small claims and make the salon pay for ignoring you. Your girlfriend has been physically injured by their negligence, and they have the audacity to blow you 2 off. At this point, you should be furious and seeking retribution. Or atleast, restitution. | The company that hurt your gf should have insurance. Contact an attorney and let them do their magic. You may also want to contact your local Attorney General’s office to report them. | 1 | 2,532 | 1.666667 |
yhkq7i | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My girlfriend went to a lash lift appointment and then needed to go to the hospital, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. She went to her appointment and midway through it became evident to her that the worker did not have proper training for what she needed to do, which was made clear by her asking another worker several times if what she was doing was correct, to which the other worker said "No, you used way too much of the fixing lotion", and in an effort to remove it, she got a bunch of it into my girlfriend's eye. Within the hour after her appointment, she lost vision in that same eye, and had to go to the hospital. She now has a $300 hospital bill to pay on top of the $100 for the appointment, and we can't even get a call back from the owner of the business. We were just looking for a refund on the appointment, didn't even ask for the money for the hospital bill, and we've been met with silence. I'm really just frustrated with the way this has been handled and was curious to know if anyone had any ideas. Thank you! | iui2122 | iuhxcg4 | 1,667,226,313 | 1,667,224,251 | 5 | 3 | Honey, they blinded your girlfriend and made her pay money for it. You should be seeking damages. Talk to the local PD and see if you can file a report with them, take everything to small claims and make the salon pay for ignoring you. Your girlfriend has been physically injured by their negligence, and they have the audacity to blow you 2 off. At this point, you should be furious and seeking retribution. Or atleast, restitution. | As an esthetician lurking here, ALWAYS verify that the person is licensed AND insured. There are a lot of people that are licensed and practicing without insurance since it is not required in most states. Also having a license does not guarantee knowledge of procedure. many continuing education classes are often needed to learn specific services. | 1 | 2,062 | 1.666667 |
63m7tg | legaladvice_train | 0.82 | TX - Austin - friend moved internationally, sold her car, and buyer never changed title over. The car got towed. My friend (and old housemate) married a Japanese citizen and moved to Tokyo (lucky). Before she left, she sold her red 2004 Neon to a friend of hers. Apparently, that friend never changed over the title, and the car got towed yesterday. I got a knock on my door this morning from my mail carrier with a certified (and signature-required) letter stating that. I've already sent pictures of the letter to her, and she says she'll inform the friend, but given that the title is in her name, and not the name of the friend, what are the options if the towing company refuses to release it? The fees / fines are already at $240 and tax for one day. | dfwgudc | dfxik8z | 1,491,468,378 | 1,491,518,779 | 2 | 5 | What are the requirements for the car's title being changed, anyway? presumably, if it's possible for the friend to get it titled in their name, the towing company would release it. other than that, the friend can possibly give someone ( I would suggest you, not the friend who caused this mess) POA to get the car released, then insist on it getting put in the new purchaser's name (oh, and make sure the friend pays upfront for the fines (it's not a fee- the initial charge is basically a fine for your car needing to be towed, just payable to the tow company, not the City. storage fees are, of course, a fee)) | You can get a power of attorney to get the car back. That involves her basically submitting a sworn statement that you have her authority to get the car. Good luck getting that done in Tokyo, and good luck getting the tow yard operator to comply. Better is to let the TXDPS know that she sold that car, on whatever date (she should have done this when it actually sold), and give the buyer's info. There is an online form for this on the DPS website. Even doing to the above, she maybe on the hook for the tow fees and storage accrued. She can also just let the tow yard have the damn thing, but again, they may go after her for the tow/storage fees and damage her credit. I don't | 0 | 50,401 | 2.5 |
63m7tg | legaladvice_train | 0.82 | TX - Austin - friend moved internationally, sold her car, and buyer never changed title over. The car got towed. My friend (and old housemate) married a Japanese citizen and moved to Tokyo (lucky). Before she left, she sold her red 2004 Neon to a friend of hers. Apparently, that friend never changed over the title, and the car got towed yesterday. I got a knock on my door this morning from my mail carrier with a certified (and signature-required) letter stating that. I've already sent pictures of the letter to her, and she says she'll inform the friend, but given that the title is in her name, and not the name of the friend, what are the options if the towing company refuses to release it? The fees / fines are already at $240 and tax for one day. | dfzi61n | dfwgudc | 1,491,624,447 | 1,491,468,378 | 3 | 2 | So I worked at a titling center and this situation is more common than you think. Typically, if she does nothing (which i recommended) the tow yard will auction it off to cover the costs. It then can be sold and titled in the new buyers name. Now, this is assuming that the title was free and clear (no lien holders). If the person she sold it to incurred tickets (parking, toll etc), then as the last registered and legal owner, she would be held liable for those (mostly likely this would happen to ignoring the tickets, is a suspension of registration and then being sent to collections rather than being sued) I would recommend that she go online for Texas (assuming the car was registered in Texas) and file a report of sale https://etag.txdmv.gov/Vehicle/MainTransferNotification.aspx. Hope this helps! | What are the requirements for the car's title being changed, anyway? presumably, if it's possible for the friend to get it titled in their name, the towing company would release it. other than that, the friend can possibly give someone ( I would suggest you, not the friend who caused this mess) POA to get the car released, then insist on it getting put in the new purchaser's name (oh, and make sure the friend pays upfront for the fines (it's not a fee- the initial charge is basically a fine for your car needing to be towed, just payable to the tow company, not the City. storage fees are, of course, a fee)) | 1 | 156,069 | 1.5 |
rnutnu | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Major bank denied my fraud/identity theft claim of $9k. So, out all my rent money for next year and essentially being accused of being a felon and committing bank fraud. Everyone told me, including bank reps, not to worry. I'll get my money back. I'm being paranoid. But the worst case scenario has played out into reality. I'm on temporary disability while I'm under the care of a doctor at the VA for PTSD and other rehab. About a month ago now, someone hacked into my online account and did two maximum fund transfers of $3k, so, a total of $6k. I immediately put in a claim and have been waiting. During that time, I was told not to worry and that it couldn't happen again while I waited on my new card. I explained to them it didn't happen with my card, it happened online, in the actual account. I spoke to ten people over multiple calls and hours until someone finally understood what I was saying and they said we need to set up over the phone authentication. We did. Or so I thought. One week later it happened again as soon as the 7 day wait period went by to take out another fund transfer. They were able to somehow change all of my security questions and answers and my email on the account to log in. Again. All while my new card was still in the mail, which I ended up getting the next day. By the time I got that next card it had already been cancelled because of this latest incident. I finally got my newest card yesterday and was able to get the last bit of my funds out of the account to another bank. Today, I was told would be the day a decision should be made by on the first claim. It was, and it was denied. They aren't giving me reason beyond just that they see multiple times my email has changed. Yea...whoever did this changed it multiple times and then I also did change it once I found out that I could with them over the phone out of fear that the person was going to keep doing it. I also logged complaints because none of the reps even told me I can and should change my email with them over the phone while my account was locked due to the open claim. I have dealt with nothing but incompetence over the phone with the reps. They didn't listen to me when I told them a new card wouldn't stop it from happening again. They didn't tell me I can and should change my email with them over the phone until it happened again. Multiple reps didn't ask me my security questions on my calls when I called to check the status, and when I called one of them on it and said "Aren't you supposed to ask me some security questions first?" she said "Hang on, let me check..." and then hung up. I don't know what to do. This is all the money I had saved for rent next year when I get out of the hospital. And now the bank is saying they aren't paying me back and are basically accusing me of being a felon. I'm already a broken man from the PTSD and substance abuse issues and I just can't seem to get any positive traction in life. I'm defeated. | hpuqxwf | hpv8ges | 1,640,382,759 | 1,640,392,116 | 1,023 | 1,168 | Have you filed a complaint with the CFPB? | Okay, so the mechanism of the theft was an electronic fund transfer (probably an ACH transfer). Then the relevant law for what they should have done is Regulation E. Your liability for the first two transfers should have been limited to the first $50. You said the first two transfers happened simultaneously, so even if you waited later than two days to tell them, the liability for those transfers would have still been $50. Since they denied your claim for an error, they should have provided you a written notice explaining the reasons why and allowed you to obtain the documents they reviewed to make a determination. Your next step should be filing a complaint with the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (helpwithmybank.gov) and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB.gov). In your complaint specifically state that you notified the bank of an unauthorized transaction under Regulation E. If you did not receive the written denial notice, state that as well. If you do not receive a satisfactory response, you do have the option of a private lawsuit against the bank. | 0 | 9,357 | 1.14174 |
rnutnu | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Major bank denied my fraud/identity theft claim of $9k. So, out all my rent money for next year and essentially being accused of being a felon and committing bank fraud. Everyone told me, including bank reps, not to worry. I'll get my money back. I'm being paranoid. But the worst case scenario has played out into reality. I'm on temporary disability while I'm under the care of a doctor at the VA for PTSD and other rehab. About a month ago now, someone hacked into my online account and did two maximum fund transfers of $3k, so, a total of $6k. I immediately put in a claim and have been waiting. During that time, I was told not to worry and that it couldn't happen again while I waited on my new card. I explained to them it didn't happen with my card, it happened online, in the actual account. I spoke to ten people over multiple calls and hours until someone finally understood what I was saying and they said we need to set up over the phone authentication. We did. Or so I thought. One week later it happened again as soon as the 7 day wait period went by to take out another fund transfer. They were able to somehow change all of my security questions and answers and my email on the account to log in. Again. All while my new card was still in the mail, which I ended up getting the next day. By the time I got that next card it had already been cancelled because of this latest incident. I finally got my newest card yesterday and was able to get the last bit of my funds out of the account to another bank. Today, I was told would be the day a decision should be made by on the first claim. It was, and it was denied. They aren't giving me reason beyond just that they see multiple times my email has changed. Yea...whoever did this changed it multiple times and then I also did change it once I found out that I could with them over the phone out of fear that the person was going to keep doing it. I also logged complaints because none of the reps even told me I can and should change my email with them over the phone while my account was locked due to the open claim. I have dealt with nothing but incompetence over the phone with the reps. They didn't listen to me when I told them a new card wouldn't stop it from happening again. They didn't tell me I can and should change my email with them over the phone until it happened again. Multiple reps didn't ask me my security questions on my calls when I called to check the status, and when I called one of them on it and said "Aren't you supposed to ask me some security questions first?" she said "Hang on, let me check..." and then hung up. I don't know what to do. This is all the money I had saved for rent next year when I get out of the hospital. And now the bank is saying they aren't paying me back and are basically accusing me of being a felon. I'm already a broken man from the PTSD and substance abuse issues and I just can't seem to get any positive traction in life. I'm defeated. | hpv8ges | hpuwcrf | 1,640,392,116 | 1,640,385,487 | 1,168 | 381 | Okay, so the mechanism of the theft was an electronic fund transfer (probably an ACH transfer). Then the relevant law for what they should have done is Regulation E. Your liability for the first two transfers should have been limited to the first $50. You said the first two transfers happened simultaneously, so even if you waited later than two days to tell them, the liability for those transfers would have still been $50. Since they denied your claim for an error, they should have provided you a written notice explaining the reasons why and allowed you to obtain the documents they reviewed to make a determination. Your next step should be filing a complaint with the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (helpwithmybank.gov) and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB.gov). In your complaint specifically state that you notified the bank of an unauthorized transaction under Regulation E. If you did not receive the written denial notice, state that as well. If you do not receive a satisfactory response, you do have the option of a private lawsuit against the bank. | Call them to find out how to appeal the decision. In the interim, file a complaint with the CFPB. These denials are reversed all the time when people persist. Don’t give up. | 1 | 6,629 | 3.065617 |
rnutnu | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Major bank denied my fraud/identity theft claim of $9k. So, out all my rent money for next year and essentially being accused of being a felon and committing bank fraud. Everyone told me, including bank reps, not to worry. I'll get my money back. I'm being paranoid. But the worst case scenario has played out into reality. I'm on temporary disability while I'm under the care of a doctor at the VA for PTSD and other rehab. About a month ago now, someone hacked into my online account and did two maximum fund transfers of $3k, so, a total of $6k. I immediately put in a claim and have been waiting. During that time, I was told not to worry and that it couldn't happen again while I waited on my new card. I explained to them it didn't happen with my card, it happened online, in the actual account. I spoke to ten people over multiple calls and hours until someone finally understood what I was saying and they said we need to set up over the phone authentication. We did. Or so I thought. One week later it happened again as soon as the 7 day wait period went by to take out another fund transfer. They were able to somehow change all of my security questions and answers and my email on the account to log in. Again. All while my new card was still in the mail, which I ended up getting the next day. By the time I got that next card it had already been cancelled because of this latest incident. I finally got my newest card yesterday and was able to get the last bit of my funds out of the account to another bank. Today, I was told would be the day a decision should be made by on the first claim. It was, and it was denied. They aren't giving me reason beyond just that they see multiple times my email has changed. Yea...whoever did this changed it multiple times and then I also did change it once I found out that I could with them over the phone out of fear that the person was going to keep doing it. I also logged complaints because none of the reps even told me I can and should change my email with them over the phone while my account was locked due to the open claim. I have dealt with nothing but incompetence over the phone with the reps. They didn't listen to me when I told them a new card wouldn't stop it from happening again. They didn't tell me I can and should change my email with them over the phone until it happened again. Multiple reps didn't ask me my security questions on my calls when I called to check the status, and when I called one of them on it and said "Aren't you supposed to ask me some security questions first?" she said "Hang on, let me check..." and then hung up. I don't know what to do. This is all the money I had saved for rent next year when I get out of the hospital. And now the bank is saying they aren't paying me back and are basically accusing me of being a felon. I'm already a broken man from the PTSD and substance abuse issues and I just can't seem to get any positive traction in life. I'm defeated. | hpvsjcb | hpvo0pb | 1,640,404,672 | 1,640,401,841 | 66 | 28 | File a report with the CFPB. I work for a bank. The CFPB is very powerful and scares the hell out of them. Be very clear about the facts and they will investigate. | Does the VA offer any free legal help or provide a social worker to help you track this? There is a lot of great advice in here, but having an advocate here to persistently help you would be invaluable. Good luck. | 1 | 2,831 | 2.357143 |
rnutnu | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Major bank denied my fraud/identity theft claim of $9k. So, out all my rent money for next year and essentially being accused of being a felon and committing bank fraud. Everyone told me, including bank reps, not to worry. I'll get my money back. I'm being paranoid. But the worst case scenario has played out into reality. I'm on temporary disability while I'm under the care of a doctor at the VA for PTSD and other rehab. About a month ago now, someone hacked into my online account and did two maximum fund transfers of $3k, so, a total of $6k. I immediately put in a claim and have been waiting. During that time, I was told not to worry and that it couldn't happen again while I waited on my new card. I explained to them it didn't happen with my card, it happened online, in the actual account. I spoke to ten people over multiple calls and hours until someone finally understood what I was saying and they said we need to set up over the phone authentication. We did. Or so I thought. One week later it happened again as soon as the 7 day wait period went by to take out another fund transfer. They were able to somehow change all of my security questions and answers and my email on the account to log in. Again. All while my new card was still in the mail, which I ended up getting the next day. By the time I got that next card it had already been cancelled because of this latest incident. I finally got my newest card yesterday and was able to get the last bit of my funds out of the account to another bank. Today, I was told would be the day a decision should be made by on the first claim. It was, and it was denied. They aren't giving me reason beyond just that they see multiple times my email has changed. Yea...whoever did this changed it multiple times and then I also did change it once I found out that I could with them over the phone out of fear that the person was going to keep doing it. I also logged complaints because none of the reps even told me I can and should change my email with them over the phone while my account was locked due to the open claim. I have dealt with nothing but incompetence over the phone with the reps. They didn't listen to me when I told them a new card wouldn't stop it from happening again. They didn't tell me I can and should change my email with them over the phone until it happened again. Multiple reps didn't ask me my security questions on my calls when I called to check the status, and when I called one of them on it and said "Aren't you supposed to ask me some security questions first?" she said "Hang on, let me check..." and then hung up. I don't know what to do. This is all the money I had saved for rent next year when I get out of the hospital. And now the bank is saying they aren't paying me back and are basically accusing me of being a felon. I'm already a broken man from the PTSD and substance abuse issues and I just can't seem to get any positive traction in life. I'm defeated. | hpvsjcb | hpvro7l | 1,640,404,672 | 1,640,404,121 | 66 | 21 | File a report with the CFPB. I work for a bank. The CFPB is very powerful and scares the hell out of them. Be very clear about the facts and they will investigate. | File a police report. It's shitty, but many banks will just assume you're lying until you tell your story to a police officer and put yourself at risk of going to jail for making a false police report if you're not telling the truth. Once they have the police report number, they should take your claim seriously. | 1 | 551 | 3.142857 |
rnutnu | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Major bank denied my fraud/identity theft claim of $9k. So, out all my rent money for next year and essentially being accused of being a felon and committing bank fraud. Everyone told me, including bank reps, not to worry. I'll get my money back. I'm being paranoid. But the worst case scenario has played out into reality. I'm on temporary disability while I'm under the care of a doctor at the VA for PTSD and other rehab. About a month ago now, someone hacked into my online account and did two maximum fund transfers of $3k, so, a total of $6k. I immediately put in a claim and have been waiting. During that time, I was told not to worry and that it couldn't happen again while I waited on my new card. I explained to them it didn't happen with my card, it happened online, in the actual account. I spoke to ten people over multiple calls and hours until someone finally understood what I was saying and they said we need to set up over the phone authentication. We did. Or so I thought. One week later it happened again as soon as the 7 day wait period went by to take out another fund transfer. They were able to somehow change all of my security questions and answers and my email on the account to log in. Again. All while my new card was still in the mail, which I ended up getting the next day. By the time I got that next card it had already been cancelled because of this latest incident. I finally got my newest card yesterday and was able to get the last bit of my funds out of the account to another bank. Today, I was told would be the day a decision should be made by on the first claim. It was, and it was denied. They aren't giving me reason beyond just that they see multiple times my email has changed. Yea...whoever did this changed it multiple times and then I also did change it once I found out that I could with them over the phone out of fear that the person was going to keep doing it. I also logged complaints because none of the reps even told me I can and should change my email with them over the phone while my account was locked due to the open claim. I have dealt with nothing but incompetence over the phone with the reps. They didn't listen to me when I told them a new card wouldn't stop it from happening again. They didn't tell me I can and should change my email with them over the phone until it happened again. Multiple reps didn't ask me my security questions on my calls when I called to check the status, and when I called one of them on it and said "Aren't you supposed to ask me some security questions first?" she said "Hang on, let me check..." and then hung up. I don't know what to do. This is all the money I had saved for rent next year when I get out of the hospital. And now the bank is saying they aren't paying me back and are basically accusing me of being a felon. I'm already a broken man from the PTSD and substance abuse issues and I just can't seem to get any positive traction in life. I'm defeated. | hpvupi5 | hpw5vtc | 1,640,406,046 | 1,640,413,822 | 7 | 11 | Did you change your passwords the first time it happened? | File id theft report at federal trade commission website. Bring your official report with you to bank, police etc. Takes a few minutes to file. Call credit agencies lock your credit. Always ask banks, cc cos for fraud department to speek with. If money was taken out of your account they can trace that. All bank transactions use a system of code which can show location of transfered funds by area of country. | 0 | 7,776 | 1.571429 |
vzt306 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Parents have taken all of the money out of my bank accounts after I moved out in the middle of the night. This week, I moved out of my parents home and went to stay with my grandmother. This move was done without my parents knowledge, but I’m 18 so it was completely legal. However, last night, when I was trying to put gas in my car to get to work, my card declined. I realized that my parents had taken every penny out of my bank account without my knowledge. The total amount saved was about 2000$ and was all money I earned through my job. However, I believe that they have some joint connection to the account. It is a “student” account through PNC bank, so I believe my father is some kind of manager of it. Is there anything I can do to get the money I need to survive back? I reached out to them and they have not responded. (I can clarify anything in the comments, I apologize but I’m a bit in shock right now.) | igabtas | igalfy6 | 1,657,904,963 | 1,657,908,773 | 116 | 684 | Contact the bank and get the documentation on what relationship your father had to the account. I'd file a police report to make sure that it was documented, even though they're not likely to do anything. You could try small claims, but if it was joint, that's an uphill battle... Unfortunately, if someone has the right to withdraw money based on the bank agreement, the court usually doesn't make them return it, no matter how screwed up it is. Also, I'd go to another bank and open a whole new account in just your name. It's harder to do that when you're a minor, but now that you're 18, you should be able to. It's important to go to a different bank, because in a small town, if the bankers at your parents' local bank know that you're they're kid, there have been stories of bankers giving parents access even when they're technically not supposed to, so a fresh start with a new bank (both location and company) is important. Once you have a new account set up, immediately switch your paychecks to that account. Since your parents are clearly okay with messing with your finances, I'd also freeze your credit, just to be safe. I think r/personalfinance has resources about how to do that with each of the credit bureaus. | Open a new account at a new bank right away and change any direct deposits to the new account | 0 | 3,810 | 5.896552 |
vzt306 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Parents have taken all of the money out of my bank accounts after I moved out in the middle of the night. This week, I moved out of my parents home and went to stay with my grandmother. This move was done without my parents knowledge, but I’m 18 so it was completely legal. However, last night, when I was trying to put gas in my car to get to work, my card declined. I realized that my parents had taken every penny out of my bank account without my knowledge. The total amount saved was about 2000$ and was all money I earned through my job. However, I believe that they have some joint connection to the account. It is a “student” account through PNC bank, so I believe my father is some kind of manager of it. Is there anything I can do to get the money I need to survive back? I reached out to them and they have not responded. (I can clarify anything in the comments, I apologize but I’m a bit in shock right now.) | igalfy6 | igadfgs | 1,657,908,773 | 1,657,905,598 | 684 | 108 | Open a new account at a new bank right away and change any direct deposits to the new account | Someone already said it but if it’s some sort of joint account, there’s not much you can do besides sue them. At that point they essentially have the same right to access the account as you do. If it is not some sort of joint account, you could potentially contact the police and get them charged with theft. | 1 | 3,175 | 6.333333 |
vzt306 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Parents have taken all of the money out of my bank accounts after I moved out in the middle of the night. This week, I moved out of my parents home and went to stay with my grandmother. This move was done without my parents knowledge, but I’m 18 so it was completely legal. However, last night, when I was trying to put gas in my car to get to work, my card declined. I realized that my parents had taken every penny out of my bank account without my knowledge. The total amount saved was about 2000$ and was all money I earned through my job. However, I believe that they have some joint connection to the account. It is a “student” account through PNC bank, so I believe my father is some kind of manager of it. Is there anything I can do to get the money I need to survive back? I reached out to them and they have not responded. (I can clarify anything in the comments, I apologize but I’m a bit in shock right now.) | igaqcps | igay1cc | 1,657,910,751 | 1,657,913,841 | 261 | 357 | The Electronic Fund Transfer Act (EFTA) governs the use of electronic funds transfers (EFTs). Note that the EFTA does not cover in-person withdrawals, so if your father walked into the bank and withdrew physical cash then the EFTA won't help you. The EFTA offers consumer protections to accounts that are for a personal use, not business accounts. This is a federal law which limits a consumer’s liability for unauthorized EFTs, provided the consumer follows certain rules. These rules require the consumer to notify his or her financial institution within certain time frames when an unauthorized transfer has occurred. Any transfer from a consumer’s account that occurs without the consumer’s permission, and from which the consumer receives no benefit, is considered unauthorized. This is true **even if it's a joint account.** However, just because another authorized person withdraws money from a joint account, that doesn't mean a consumer will be protected by the EFTA. You still have to show that the withdrawal was unauthorized. The details you provided don't tell us whether your father was allowed to withdraw the money. This is generally how it works at the federal level. State rules vary. More info here: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/compliance/compliance-resources/deposit-accounts-resources/electronic-fund-transfers/electronic-fund-transfers-faqs/ | In the meantime, open an account at a new bank. Solely in your name. Make sure you inform your employer if you have direct deposit paychecks | 0 | 3,090 | 1.367816 |
vzt306 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Parents have taken all of the money out of my bank accounts after I moved out in the middle of the night. This week, I moved out of my parents home and went to stay with my grandmother. This move was done without my parents knowledge, but I’m 18 so it was completely legal. However, last night, when I was trying to put gas in my car to get to work, my card declined. I realized that my parents had taken every penny out of my bank account without my knowledge. The total amount saved was about 2000$ and was all money I earned through my job. However, I believe that they have some joint connection to the account. It is a “student” account through PNC bank, so I believe my father is some kind of manager of it. Is there anything I can do to get the money I need to survive back? I reached out to them and they have not responded. (I can clarify anything in the comments, I apologize but I’m a bit in shock right now.) | igay1cc | igabtas | 1,657,913,841 | 1,657,904,963 | 357 | 116 | In the meantime, open an account at a new bank. Solely in your name. Make sure you inform your employer if you have direct deposit paychecks | Contact the bank and get the documentation on what relationship your father had to the account. I'd file a police report to make sure that it was documented, even though they're not likely to do anything. You could try small claims, but if it was joint, that's an uphill battle... Unfortunately, if someone has the right to withdraw money based on the bank agreement, the court usually doesn't make them return it, no matter how screwed up it is. Also, I'd go to another bank and open a whole new account in just your name. It's harder to do that when you're a minor, but now that you're 18, you should be able to. It's important to go to a different bank, because in a small town, if the bankers at your parents' local bank know that you're they're kid, there have been stories of bankers giving parents access even when they're technically not supposed to, so a fresh start with a new bank (both location and company) is important. Once you have a new account set up, immediately switch your paychecks to that account. Since your parents are clearly okay with messing with your finances, I'd also freeze your credit, just to be safe. I think r/personalfinance has resources about how to do that with each of the credit bureaus. | 1 | 8,878 | 3.077586 |
vzt306 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Parents have taken all of the money out of my bank accounts after I moved out in the middle of the night. This week, I moved out of my parents home and went to stay with my grandmother. This move was done without my parents knowledge, but I’m 18 so it was completely legal. However, last night, when I was trying to put gas in my car to get to work, my card declined. I realized that my parents had taken every penny out of my bank account without my knowledge. The total amount saved was about 2000$ and was all money I earned through my job. However, I believe that they have some joint connection to the account. It is a “student” account through PNC bank, so I believe my father is some kind of manager of it. Is there anything I can do to get the money I need to survive back? I reached out to them and they have not responded. (I can clarify anything in the comments, I apologize but I’m a bit in shock right now.) | igadfgs | igay1cc | 1,657,905,598 | 1,657,913,841 | 108 | 357 | Someone already said it but if it’s some sort of joint account, there’s not much you can do besides sue them. At that point they essentially have the same right to access the account as you do. If it is not some sort of joint account, you could potentially contact the police and get them charged with theft. | In the meantime, open an account at a new bank. Solely in your name. Make sure you inform your employer if you have direct deposit paychecks | 0 | 8,243 | 3.305556 |
vzt306 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Parents have taken all of the money out of my bank accounts after I moved out in the middle of the night. This week, I moved out of my parents home and went to stay with my grandmother. This move was done without my parents knowledge, but I’m 18 so it was completely legal. However, last night, when I was trying to put gas in my car to get to work, my card declined. I realized that my parents had taken every penny out of my bank account without my knowledge. The total amount saved was about 2000$ and was all money I earned through my job. However, I believe that they have some joint connection to the account. It is a “student” account through PNC bank, so I believe my father is some kind of manager of it. Is there anything I can do to get the money I need to survive back? I reached out to them and they have not responded. (I can clarify anything in the comments, I apologize but I’m a bit in shock right now.) | igaub71 | igay1cc | 1,657,912,340 | 1,657,913,841 | 40 | 357 | Can u ask the bank who authorized it. If you’re secondary on the account you may not have much force here. But if your primary you can request for the money to be transferred back. | In the meantime, open an account at a new bank. Solely in your name. Make sure you inform your employer if you have direct deposit paychecks | 0 | 1,501 | 8.925 |
vzt306 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Parents have taken all of the money out of my bank accounts after I moved out in the middle of the night. This week, I moved out of my parents home and went to stay with my grandmother. This move was done without my parents knowledge, but I’m 18 so it was completely legal. However, last night, when I was trying to put gas in my car to get to work, my card declined. I realized that my parents had taken every penny out of my bank account without my knowledge. The total amount saved was about 2000$ and was all money I earned through my job. However, I believe that they have some joint connection to the account. It is a “student” account through PNC bank, so I believe my father is some kind of manager of it. Is there anything I can do to get the money I need to survive back? I reached out to them and they have not responded. (I can clarify anything in the comments, I apologize but I’m a bit in shock right now.) | igaqcps | igbbty1 | 1,657,910,751 | 1,657,919,472 | 261 | 341 | The Electronic Fund Transfer Act (EFTA) governs the use of electronic funds transfers (EFTs). Note that the EFTA does not cover in-person withdrawals, so if your father walked into the bank and withdrew physical cash then the EFTA won't help you. The EFTA offers consumer protections to accounts that are for a personal use, not business accounts. This is a federal law which limits a consumer’s liability for unauthorized EFTs, provided the consumer follows certain rules. These rules require the consumer to notify his or her financial institution within certain time frames when an unauthorized transfer has occurred. Any transfer from a consumer’s account that occurs without the consumer’s permission, and from which the consumer receives no benefit, is considered unauthorized. This is true **even if it's a joint account.** However, just because another authorized person withdraws money from a joint account, that doesn't mean a consumer will be protected by the EFTA. You still have to show that the withdrawal was unauthorized. The details you provided don't tell us whether your father was allowed to withdraw the money. This is generally how it works at the federal level. State rules vary. More info here: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/compliance/compliance-resources/deposit-accounts-resources/electronic-fund-transfers/electronic-fund-transfers-faqs/ | I’m an attorney who handles this area of law, but I am not your attorney and this is not legal advice. Joint account issues are always tough. You will probably have to sue in small claims court. The problem is it could come down to a “he said she said” type of situation and your parents could say that you agreed to give them that money to pay for rent or to pay them back for something etc. So unfortunately this is going to be a complicated issue if they decide to play dirty and lie in court. How much money was it? Gather proof of the money trail now, so proof those funds went from your payroll company, to the joint account, and then showing she took it out. Do this now in case you lose access to the account. I would get records for every single month going back to when it is open so you can show that you don’t ever give them big chunks of money like that. There is no harm in going to speak with a personal banker and telling them what happened and see if there’s anything they can suggest. And then you need the banker to open up a new bank account for you and get your pay switched to that one immediately. If your work cannot get it switched for the next paycheck, make sure you get a paper copy and deposit it into that new account. | 0 | 8,721 | 1.306513 |
vzt306 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Parents have taken all of the money out of my bank accounts after I moved out in the middle of the night. This week, I moved out of my parents home and went to stay with my grandmother. This move was done without my parents knowledge, but I’m 18 so it was completely legal. However, last night, when I was trying to put gas in my car to get to work, my card declined. I realized that my parents had taken every penny out of my bank account without my knowledge. The total amount saved was about 2000$ and was all money I earned through my job. However, I believe that they have some joint connection to the account. It is a “student” account through PNC bank, so I believe my father is some kind of manager of it. Is there anything I can do to get the money I need to survive back? I reached out to them and they have not responded. (I can clarify anything in the comments, I apologize but I’m a bit in shock right now.) | igabtas | igbbty1 | 1,657,904,963 | 1,657,919,472 | 116 | 341 | Contact the bank and get the documentation on what relationship your father had to the account. I'd file a police report to make sure that it was documented, even though they're not likely to do anything. You could try small claims, but if it was joint, that's an uphill battle... Unfortunately, if someone has the right to withdraw money based on the bank agreement, the court usually doesn't make them return it, no matter how screwed up it is. Also, I'd go to another bank and open a whole new account in just your name. It's harder to do that when you're a minor, but now that you're 18, you should be able to. It's important to go to a different bank, because in a small town, if the bankers at your parents' local bank know that you're they're kid, there have been stories of bankers giving parents access even when they're technically not supposed to, so a fresh start with a new bank (both location and company) is important. Once you have a new account set up, immediately switch your paychecks to that account. Since your parents are clearly okay with messing with your finances, I'd also freeze your credit, just to be safe. I think r/personalfinance has resources about how to do that with each of the credit bureaus. | I’m an attorney who handles this area of law, but I am not your attorney and this is not legal advice. Joint account issues are always tough. You will probably have to sue in small claims court. The problem is it could come down to a “he said she said” type of situation and your parents could say that you agreed to give them that money to pay for rent or to pay them back for something etc. So unfortunately this is going to be a complicated issue if they decide to play dirty and lie in court. How much money was it? Gather proof of the money trail now, so proof those funds went from your payroll company, to the joint account, and then showing she took it out. Do this now in case you lose access to the account. I would get records for every single month going back to when it is open so you can show that you don’t ever give them big chunks of money like that. There is no harm in going to speak with a personal banker and telling them what happened and see if there’s anything they can suggest. And then you need the banker to open up a new bank account for you and get your pay switched to that one immediately. If your work cannot get it switched for the next paycheck, make sure you get a paper copy and deposit it into that new account. | 0 | 14,509 | 2.939655 |
vzt306 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Parents have taken all of the money out of my bank accounts after I moved out in the middle of the night. This week, I moved out of my parents home and went to stay with my grandmother. This move was done without my parents knowledge, but I’m 18 so it was completely legal. However, last night, when I was trying to put gas in my car to get to work, my card declined. I realized that my parents had taken every penny out of my bank account without my knowledge. The total amount saved was about 2000$ and was all money I earned through my job. However, I believe that they have some joint connection to the account. It is a “student” account through PNC bank, so I believe my father is some kind of manager of it. Is there anything I can do to get the money I need to survive back? I reached out to them and they have not responded. (I can clarify anything in the comments, I apologize but I’m a bit in shock right now.) | igbbty1 | igadfgs | 1,657,919,472 | 1,657,905,598 | 341 | 108 | I’m an attorney who handles this area of law, but I am not your attorney and this is not legal advice. Joint account issues are always tough. You will probably have to sue in small claims court. The problem is it could come down to a “he said she said” type of situation and your parents could say that you agreed to give them that money to pay for rent or to pay them back for something etc. So unfortunately this is going to be a complicated issue if they decide to play dirty and lie in court. How much money was it? Gather proof of the money trail now, so proof those funds went from your payroll company, to the joint account, and then showing she took it out. Do this now in case you lose access to the account. I would get records for every single month going back to when it is open so you can show that you don’t ever give them big chunks of money like that. There is no harm in going to speak with a personal banker and telling them what happened and see if there’s anything they can suggest. And then you need the banker to open up a new bank account for you and get your pay switched to that one immediately. If your work cannot get it switched for the next paycheck, make sure you get a paper copy and deposit it into that new account. | Someone already said it but if it’s some sort of joint account, there’s not much you can do besides sue them. At that point they essentially have the same right to access the account as you do. If it is not some sort of joint account, you could potentially contact the police and get them charged with theft. | 1 | 13,874 | 3.157407 |
vzt306 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Parents have taken all of the money out of my bank accounts after I moved out in the middle of the night. This week, I moved out of my parents home and went to stay with my grandmother. This move was done without my parents knowledge, but I’m 18 so it was completely legal. However, last night, when I was trying to put gas in my car to get to work, my card declined. I realized that my parents had taken every penny out of my bank account without my knowledge. The total amount saved was about 2000$ and was all money I earned through my job. However, I believe that they have some joint connection to the account. It is a “student” account through PNC bank, so I believe my father is some kind of manager of it. Is there anything I can do to get the money I need to survive back? I reached out to them and they have not responded. (I can clarify anything in the comments, I apologize but I’m a bit in shock right now.) | igbbty1 | igaub71 | 1,657,919,472 | 1,657,912,340 | 341 | 40 | I’m an attorney who handles this area of law, but I am not your attorney and this is not legal advice. Joint account issues are always tough. You will probably have to sue in small claims court. The problem is it could come down to a “he said she said” type of situation and your parents could say that you agreed to give them that money to pay for rent or to pay them back for something etc. So unfortunately this is going to be a complicated issue if they decide to play dirty and lie in court. How much money was it? Gather proof of the money trail now, so proof those funds went from your payroll company, to the joint account, and then showing she took it out. Do this now in case you lose access to the account. I would get records for every single month going back to when it is open so you can show that you don’t ever give them big chunks of money like that. There is no harm in going to speak with a personal banker and telling them what happened and see if there’s anything they can suggest. And then you need the banker to open up a new bank account for you and get your pay switched to that one immediately. If your work cannot get it switched for the next paycheck, make sure you get a paper copy and deposit it into that new account. | Can u ask the bank who authorized it. If you’re secondary on the account you may not have much force here. But if your primary you can request for the money to be transferred back. | 1 | 7,132 | 8.525 |
vzt306 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Parents have taken all of the money out of my bank accounts after I moved out in the middle of the night. This week, I moved out of my parents home and went to stay with my grandmother. This move was done without my parents knowledge, but I’m 18 so it was completely legal. However, last night, when I was trying to put gas in my car to get to work, my card declined. I realized that my parents had taken every penny out of my bank account without my knowledge. The total amount saved was about 2000$ and was all money I earned through my job. However, I believe that they have some joint connection to the account. It is a “student” account through PNC bank, so I believe my father is some kind of manager of it. Is there anything I can do to get the money I need to survive back? I reached out to them and they have not responded. (I can clarify anything in the comments, I apologize but I’m a bit in shock right now.) | igabtas | igaqcps | 1,657,904,963 | 1,657,910,751 | 116 | 261 | Contact the bank and get the documentation on what relationship your father had to the account. I'd file a police report to make sure that it was documented, even though they're not likely to do anything. You could try small claims, but if it was joint, that's an uphill battle... Unfortunately, if someone has the right to withdraw money based on the bank agreement, the court usually doesn't make them return it, no matter how screwed up it is. Also, I'd go to another bank and open a whole new account in just your name. It's harder to do that when you're a minor, but now that you're 18, you should be able to. It's important to go to a different bank, because in a small town, if the bankers at your parents' local bank know that you're they're kid, there have been stories of bankers giving parents access even when they're technically not supposed to, so a fresh start with a new bank (both location and company) is important. Once you have a new account set up, immediately switch your paychecks to that account. Since your parents are clearly okay with messing with your finances, I'd also freeze your credit, just to be safe. I think r/personalfinance has resources about how to do that with each of the credit bureaus. | The Electronic Fund Transfer Act (EFTA) governs the use of electronic funds transfers (EFTs). Note that the EFTA does not cover in-person withdrawals, so if your father walked into the bank and withdrew physical cash then the EFTA won't help you. The EFTA offers consumer protections to accounts that are for a personal use, not business accounts. This is a federal law which limits a consumer’s liability for unauthorized EFTs, provided the consumer follows certain rules. These rules require the consumer to notify his or her financial institution within certain time frames when an unauthorized transfer has occurred. Any transfer from a consumer’s account that occurs without the consumer’s permission, and from which the consumer receives no benefit, is considered unauthorized. This is true **even if it's a joint account.** However, just because another authorized person withdraws money from a joint account, that doesn't mean a consumer will be protected by the EFTA. You still have to show that the withdrawal was unauthorized. The details you provided don't tell us whether your father was allowed to withdraw the money. This is generally how it works at the federal level. State rules vary. More info here: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/compliance/compliance-resources/deposit-accounts-resources/electronic-fund-transfers/electronic-fund-transfers-faqs/ | 0 | 5,788 | 2.25 |
vzt306 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Parents have taken all of the money out of my bank accounts after I moved out in the middle of the night. This week, I moved out of my parents home and went to stay with my grandmother. This move was done without my parents knowledge, but I’m 18 so it was completely legal. However, last night, when I was trying to put gas in my car to get to work, my card declined. I realized that my parents had taken every penny out of my bank account without my knowledge. The total amount saved was about 2000$ and was all money I earned through my job. However, I believe that they have some joint connection to the account. It is a “student” account through PNC bank, so I believe my father is some kind of manager of it. Is there anything I can do to get the money I need to survive back? I reached out to them and they have not responded. (I can clarify anything in the comments, I apologize but I’m a bit in shock right now.) | igaqcps | igadfgs | 1,657,910,751 | 1,657,905,598 | 261 | 108 | The Electronic Fund Transfer Act (EFTA) governs the use of electronic funds transfers (EFTs). Note that the EFTA does not cover in-person withdrawals, so if your father walked into the bank and withdrew physical cash then the EFTA won't help you. The EFTA offers consumer protections to accounts that are for a personal use, not business accounts. This is a federal law which limits a consumer’s liability for unauthorized EFTs, provided the consumer follows certain rules. These rules require the consumer to notify his or her financial institution within certain time frames when an unauthorized transfer has occurred. Any transfer from a consumer’s account that occurs without the consumer’s permission, and from which the consumer receives no benefit, is considered unauthorized. This is true **even if it's a joint account.** However, just because another authorized person withdraws money from a joint account, that doesn't mean a consumer will be protected by the EFTA. You still have to show that the withdrawal was unauthorized. The details you provided don't tell us whether your father was allowed to withdraw the money. This is generally how it works at the federal level. State rules vary. More info here: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/compliance/compliance-resources/deposit-accounts-resources/electronic-fund-transfers/electronic-fund-transfers-faqs/ | Someone already said it but if it’s some sort of joint account, there’s not much you can do besides sue them. At that point they essentially have the same right to access the account as you do. If it is not some sort of joint account, you could potentially contact the police and get them charged with theft. | 1 | 5,153 | 2.416667 |
vlogmq | legaladvice_train | 0.91 | Have been living in a commercial property with permission from the owners. It sold and I have been given notice to leave, which is tomorrow. Like the title says, we were given permission to live in an old strip club in Harbor City, Los Angeles CA, at the behest of the previous owners. In return for watching the place, keeping homeless out of the lot, painting over the graffiti, small things like that, we were allowed to live here, and were promised 30 to 60 days notice when it was sold. We have proof that we have been here for the last 4 months now, with permission from the previous owners. We (my fiance and I) got a call 3 days ago saying we have to be out tomorrow, as the new owners decided to skip escrow. Is this legal? We will have to take our whole lives outside, not to mention my birthday is 2 days later. Do I have any legal recourse here? There is no shower, but there are restrooms and a bar/refrigerator, and we have hot plates and water boilers and such. They gave us access to the water and to the electricity as well, so we have fully been living here for 4 months. Can they legally throw us out with almost no notice, especially when we were told we'd have 30 to 60 days once the property sold. | idwda4t | idylr7t | 1,656,309,566 | 1,656,354,826 | 5 | 161 | Hi there! I’m the LegalFAQ bot. It looks like you may be experiencing housing issues related to housing or eviction. Come to https://legalfaq.org to find legal resources for renters in each state. You can also find links to local groups that can help you with legal, financial, or other problems at https://legalfaq.org/getHelp. Help us provide accurate advice to fellow redditors: if your post was related to housing or eviction, please like this comment; otherwise, please dislike this comment. *v0.1* | There is absolutely no way you're living in a legal space. Try to negotiate with the new owners (not the old owners) for a graceful exit. Looks like in LA they would still have to legally evict you rather than throw you out for an illegal apartment which theoretically gives you 30 days. But if you don't have a lease it might be harder to prove to the police that you have a legal right to be there. searched: living in illegal apartment los angeles in Google | 0 | 45,260 | 32.2 |
va2lk0 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor’s contractor dumped a giant mound of gravel and dirt on my vegetable garden/flower bush. [IA USA] I own my home, and the house next door is a rental. Our garages both open into an alley. There’s some space between our garages, and even though they’re not fenced off, you can tell by where the rest of our fences end where the cutoff is. In that space, I have a vegetable garden that is clearly delineated by a short brick enclosure. In front of it are flowering peony bushes. Two days ago, I walked outside to find my plants buried under a large mound of dirt and gravel. From the looks of it, it’s clear my neighbor’s landlord was clearing away the gravel in front of the garage to make way for a paved section of ground. I talked first my neighbor (the renter), who said she was also surprised by the unexpected construction work. I finally got ahold of her landlord, who assured me it would be taken care of by the contractor. I contacted the city to confirm my property lines— yes, they did dump on them. I then asked if they got a permit, which they said they did. The permit showed where the property lines are. It’s been two days, and there is no sign of the dirt being removed. Even when it is, my plants are toast. They didn’t cost me much to begin with, since I grew them from seeds, but man am i steamed. What, if anything, should I do? | ibzwabs | ibzvj8f | 1,654,969,792 | 1,654,969,439 | 216 | 32 | Include the cost of your time. The plants may have come from seed, but they didn't make a garden all by themselves. | Continue to contact the owner and demand it be restored to the way it was. | 1 | 353 | 6.75 |
va2lk0 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor’s contractor dumped a giant mound of gravel and dirt on my vegetable garden/flower bush. [IA USA] I own my home, and the house next door is a rental. Our garages both open into an alley. There’s some space between our garages, and even though they’re not fenced off, you can tell by where the rest of our fences end where the cutoff is. In that space, I have a vegetable garden that is clearly delineated by a short brick enclosure. In front of it are flowering peony bushes. Two days ago, I walked outside to find my plants buried under a large mound of dirt and gravel. From the looks of it, it’s clear my neighbor’s landlord was clearing away the gravel in front of the garage to make way for a paved section of ground. I talked first my neighbor (the renter), who said she was also surprised by the unexpected construction work. I finally got ahold of her landlord, who assured me it would be taken care of by the contractor. I contacted the city to confirm my property lines— yes, they did dump on them. I then asked if they got a permit, which they said they did. The permit showed where the property lines are. It’s been two days, and there is no sign of the dirt being removed. Even when it is, my plants are toast. They didn’t cost me much to begin with, since I grew them from seeds, but man am i steamed. What, if anything, should I do? | ic0j5wb | ic16r1p | 1,654,980,749 | 1,654,993,034 | 109 | 168 | Landscaping is a real thing, find out the price to purchase and plant mature replacements. | The value of your damages is not the cost of the seeds you paid for. Your damages are the cost to make you whole, bringing you back to where you were they dumped gravel on your plants. If the plants are dead, that means the cost to both BUY and HAVE INSTALLED BY SOMEONE ELSE the same type/size/age/etc of plants you had. | 0 | 12,285 | 1.541284 |
va2lk0 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor’s contractor dumped a giant mound of gravel and dirt on my vegetable garden/flower bush. [IA USA] I own my home, and the house next door is a rental. Our garages both open into an alley. There’s some space between our garages, and even though they’re not fenced off, you can tell by where the rest of our fences end where the cutoff is. In that space, I have a vegetable garden that is clearly delineated by a short brick enclosure. In front of it are flowering peony bushes. Two days ago, I walked outside to find my plants buried under a large mound of dirt and gravel. From the looks of it, it’s clear my neighbor’s landlord was clearing away the gravel in front of the garage to make way for a paved section of ground. I talked first my neighbor (the renter), who said she was also surprised by the unexpected construction work. I finally got ahold of her landlord, who assured me it would be taken care of by the contractor. I contacted the city to confirm my property lines— yes, they did dump on them. I then asked if they got a permit, which they said they did. The permit showed where the property lines are. It’s been two days, and there is no sign of the dirt being removed. Even when it is, my plants are toast. They didn’t cost me much to begin with, since I grew them from seeds, but man am i steamed. What, if anything, should I do? | ibzy5ts | ic16r1p | 1,654,970,662 | 1,654,993,034 | 66 | 168 | Send a certified letter to the owner. Give them a date to clean it up by, then you will bill them for the clean up. | The value of your damages is not the cost of the seeds you paid for. Your damages are the cost to make you whole, bringing you back to where you were they dumped gravel on your plants. If the plants are dead, that means the cost to both BUY and HAVE INSTALLED BY SOMEONE ELSE the same type/size/age/etc of plants you had. | 0 | 22,372 | 2.545455 |
va2lk0 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor’s contractor dumped a giant mound of gravel and dirt on my vegetable garden/flower bush. [IA USA] I own my home, and the house next door is a rental. Our garages both open into an alley. There’s some space between our garages, and even though they’re not fenced off, you can tell by where the rest of our fences end where the cutoff is. In that space, I have a vegetable garden that is clearly delineated by a short brick enclosure. In front of it are flowering peony bushes. Two days ago, I walked outside to find my plants buried under a large mound of dirt and gravel. From the looks of it, it’s clear my neighbor’s landlord was clearing away the gravel in front of the garage to make way for a paved section of ground. I talked first my neighbor (the renter), who said she was also surprised by the unexpected construction work. I finally got ahold of her landlord, who assured me it would be taken care of by the contractor. I contacted the city to confirm my property lines— yes, they did dump on them. I then asked if they got a permit, which they said they did. The permit showed where the property lines are. It’s been two days, and there is no sign of the dirt being removed. Even when it is, my plants are toast. They didn’t cost me much to begin with, since I grew them from seeds, but man am i steamed. What, if anything, should I do? | ic16r1p | ibzvj8f | 1,654,993,034 | 1,654,969,439 | 168 | 32 | The value of your damages is not the cost of the seeds you paid for. Your damages are the cost to make you whole, bringing you back to where you were they dumped gravel on your plants. If the plants are dead, that means the cost to both BUY and HAVE INSTALLED BY SOMEONE ELSE the same type/size/age/etc of plants you had. | Continue to contact the owner and demand it be restored to the way it was. | 1 | 23,595 | 5.25 |
va2lk0 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor’s contractor dumped a giant mound of gravel and dirt on my vegetable garden/flower bush. [IA USA] I own my home, and the house next door is a rental. Our garages both open into an alley. There’s some space between our garages, and even though they’re not fenced off, you can tell by where the rest of our fences end where the cutoff is. In that space, I have a vegetable garden that is clearly delineated by a short brick enclosure. In front of it are flowering peony bushes. Two days ago, I walked outside to find my plants buried under a large mound of dirt and gravel. From the looks of it, it’s clear my neighbor’s landlord was clearing away the gravel in front of the garage to make way for a paved section of ground. I talked first my neighbor (the renter), who said she was also surprised by the unexpected construction work. I finally got ahold of her landlord, who assured me it would be taken care of by the contractor. I contacted the city to confirm my property lines— yes, they did dump on them. I then asked if they got a permit, which they said they did. The permit showed where the property lines are. It’s been two days, and there is no sign of the dirt being removed. Even when it is, my plants are toast. They didn’t cost me much to begin with, since I grew them from seeds, but man am i steamed. What, if anything, should I do? | ibzy5ts | ic0j5wb | 1,654,970,662 | 1,654,980,749 | 66 | 109 | Send a certified letter to the owner. Give them a date to clean it up by, then you will bill them for the clean up. | Landscaping is a real thing, find out the price to purchase and plant mature replacements. | 0 | 10,087 | 1.651515 |
va2lk0 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor’s contractor dumped a giant mound of gravel and dirt on my vegetable garden/flower bush. [IA USA] I own my home, and the house next door is a rental. Our garages both open into an alley. There’s some space between our garages, and even though they’re not fenced off, you can tell by where the rest of our fences end where the cutoff is. In that space, I have a vegetable garden that is clearly delineated by a short brick enclosure. In front of it are flowering peony bushes. Two days ago, I walked outside to find my plants buried under a large mound of dirt and gravel. From the looks of it, it’s clear my neighbor’s landlord was clearing away the gravel in front of the garage to make way for a paved section of ground. I talked first my neighbor (the renter), who said she was also surprised by the unexpected construction work. I finally got ahold of her landlord, who assured me it would be taken care of by the contractor. I contacted the city to confirm my property lines— yes, they did dump on them. I then asked if they got a permit, which they said they did. The permit showed where the property lines are. It’s been two days, and there is no sign of the dirt being removed. Even when it is, my plants are toast. They didn’t cost me much to begin with, since I grew them from seeds, but man am i steamed. What, if anything, should I do? | ic0j5wb | ibzvj8f | 1,654,980,749 | 1,654,969,439 | 109 | 32 | Landscaping is a real thing, find out the price to purchase and plant mature replacements. | Continue to contact the owner and demand it be restored to the way it was. | 1 | 11,310 | 3.40625 |
va2lk0 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor’s contractor dumped a giant mound of gravel and dirt on my vegetable garden/flower bush. [IA USA] I own my home, and the house next door is a rental. Our garages both open into an alley. There’s some space between our garages, and even though they’re not fenced off, you can tell by where the rest of our fences end where the cutoff is. In that space, I have a vegetable garden that is clearly delineated by a short brick enclosure. In front of it are flowering peony bushes. Two days ago, I walked outside to find my plants buried under a large mound of dirt and gravel. From the looks of it, it’s clear my neighbor’s landlord was clearing away the gravel in front of the garage to make way for a paved section of ground. I talked first my neighbor (the renter), who said she was also surprised by the unexpected construction work. I finally got ahold of her landlord, who assured me it would be taken care of by the contractor. I contacted the city to confirm my property lines— yes, they did dump on them. I then asked if they got a permit, which they said they did. The permit showed where the property lines are. It’s been two days, and there is no sign of the dirt being removed. Even when it is, my plants are toast. They didn’t cost me much to begin with, since I grew them from seeds, but man am i steamed. What, if anything, should I do? | ibzy5ts | ibzvj8f | 1,654,970,662 | 1,654,969,439 | 66 | 32 | Send a certified letter to the owner. Give them a date to clean it up by, then you will bill them for the clean up. | Continue to contact the owner and demand it be restored to the way it was. | 1 | 1,223 | 2.0625 |
va2lk0 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Neighbor’s contractor dumped a giant mound of gravel and dirt on my vegetable garden/flower bush. [IA USA] I own my home, and the house next door is a rental. Our garages both open into an alley. There’s some space between our garages, and even though they’re not fenced off, you can tell by where the rest of our fences end where the cutoff is. In that space, I have a vegetable garden that is clearly delineated by a short brick enclosure. In front of it are flowering peony bushes. Two days ago, I walked outside to find my plants buried under a large mound of dirt and gravel. From the looks of it, it’s clear my neighbor’s landlord was clearing away the gravel in front of the garage to make way for a paved section of ground. I talked first my neighbor (the renter), who said she was also surprised by the unexpected construction work. I finally got ahold of her landlord, who assured me it would be taken care of by the contractor. I contacted the city to confirm my property lines— yes, they did dump on them. I then asked if they got a permit, which they said they did. The permit showed where the property lines are. It’s been two days, and there is no sign of the dirt being removed. Even when it is, my plants are toast. They didn’t cost me much to begin with, since I grew them from seeds, but man am i steamed. What, if anything, should I do? | ic17yr6 | ic1z4aj | 1,654,993,698 | 1,655,009,118 | 7 | 13 | Make sure to calculate the time it took you to research all this, gets quotes, etc as well as the time + materials of the original garden | I dont know about IA, but here in Texas some things are considered like Agriculture and the laws on those are massive compared to normal "my plants died" laws. Even things like a hobbyist apiary in the yard. Might be worth checking out if you have an agriculture office for your town/county/state. | 0 | 15,420 | 1.857143 |
kzq6pj | legaladvice_train | 0.81 | Giant tree branch fell onto neighbors home who is responsible for the damage? First time poster here, sorry I'm on mobile too. So just as my title states we had very strong winds the last couple of days. A giant tree branch snapped off of our tree and fell onto our neighbors home (minimal damage). Who is legally liable to pay for the damage me or the neighbor? I have tried to google and from what I found ' you are liable for your own property damage unless damage is due to gross negligence' is this true? Or could I be held liable for the damage? If it matters this is in Colorado and the damage to her home was just her gutter. | gjplc90 | gjplqxy | 1,610,968,132 | 1,610,968,530 | 14 | 43 | Unless you're somehow negligent, your neighbor has to fix their own damages. They call their insurance and deal with it. | If the tree was healthy, it is generally on them. If the tree was dead and you knew it, it is generally on you | 0 | 398 | 3.071429 |
kzq6pj | legaladvice_train | 0.81 | Giant tree branch fell onto neighbors home who is responsible for the damage? First time poster here, sorry I'm on mobile too. So just as my title states we had very strong winds the last couple of days. A giant tree branch snapped off of our tree and fell onto our neighbors home (minimal damage). Who is legally liable to pay for the damage me or the neighbor? I have tried to google and from what I found ' you are liable for your own property damage unless damage is due to gross negligence' is this true? Or could I be held liable for the damage? If it matters this is in Colorado and the damage to her home was just her gutter. | gjpljih | gjplqxy | 1,610,968,331 | 1,610,968,530 | 14 | 43 | your neighbor is responsible for everything on or in this case overhanging their property. they have the right to cut back all branches overhanging their property back to the property line if the so choose providing doing so doesnt kill the tree. they also have the responsibility for any damage incurred by those same branches if the happen to fall. branch falls due to wind its "act of god" you are not responsible, however this does not apply if the main tree is shedding branches due to dying or other injury, in that care you are responsible. if the neighbors decide to litigate it find a arborist, have them check the trees health and get the results in writing then find a lawyer. | If the tree was healthy, it is generally on them. If the tree was dead and you knew it, it is generally on you | 0 | 199 | 3.071429 |
kzq6pj | legaladvice_train | 0.81 | Giant tree branch fell onto neighbors home who is responsible for the damage? First time poster here, sorry I'm on mobile too. So just as my title states we had very strong winds the last couple of days. A giant tree branch snapped off of our tree and fell onto our neighbors home (minimal damage). Who is legally liable to pay for the damage me or the neighbor? I have tried to google and from what I found ' you are liable for your own property damage unless damage is due to gross negligence' is this true? Or could I be held liable for the damage? If it matters this is in Colorado and the damage to her home was just her gutter. | gjpg6ia | gjplqxy | 1,610,962,956 | 1,610,968,530 | 14 | 43 | Not a lawyer but my understanding is that in most places the cost would fall on the neighbor (not OP). Unless of course the tree was dying or something and the OP knew about it and failed to do anything. | If the tree was healthy, it is generally on them. If the tree was dead and you knew it, it is generally on you | 0 | 5,574 | 3.071429 |
9hm58g | legaladvice_train | 0.99 | My neighbor falsely believes my disabled BIL was being creepy and I want to protect him This all just happened today, and I haven’t had great luck googling, so I’m posting here to help myself and my husband calm down. My BIL is physically and intellectually disabled, almost completely nonverbal, and lives with my husband and I. Our apartment complex has a small courtyard with some flower beds and a playground. My BIL’s favorite thing to do after work is sit in the courtyard. He doesn’t pay much attention to the kids on the playground (or anybody else in the complex)—he'll say hi if they do, but that’s it, he’s not chatty—but he really likes the flower beds. He takes a bunch of pictures on his phone of them almost every day (we have an evening routine that includes picking one or two and deleting the rest so his phone can keep any storage space, lol). Today when I went out to get him to tell him dinner was ready, and a woman I’ve seen around but never met before came over to me. She asked me if/how I knew my BIL, and when I answered, she told me he’d been filming her daughters. I was super taken aback, and said I was almost certain there was a misunderstanding and that he was taking pictures of the flowerbeds/garden, maybe even the trees. If her daughters were in the pictures, it was probably accidental, and I said we could look at his phone together and delete any she didn't want him to keep. She said she'd seen him “filming” her kids before, multiple times, and that as soon as she got home she was calling the police. She told me she only stayed as long as she did to make sure he didn't "try anything" with other kids (?!). Look: I will be the first to admit my BIL lacks the capacity to make the best social decisions or understand how he comes off to strangers (he doesn’t “look” disabled, and he has definitely accidentally freaked people out before just because he’s very tall and quiet and doesn’t have really any social skills). But I go through his phone most nights (if I don’t, my husband does), and we’d know if he were filming or photographing children on the playground. He isn’t. I tried to explain this to my neighbor but she left. I did go through my BIL’s phone right after, and it was just the usual flower/tree pics. The back of one girl’s head was in one photo, in the corner. I asked him if he meant to take a picture of her and he told me he meant to take a picture of the tree. I have no idea if this will blow over, or what. My husband is having a lot of anxiety about it, and I won’t lie, I’m kind of stressed too—again, I know my BIL didn’t intend any harm, and I know this woman is almost certainly just a well-meaning mom who didn’t know what my BIL was doing, but I don’t want this to become a “thing.” Are there any steps I should take to ensure my BIL is protected and this all goes smoothly, or should I want to see if anything even happens? We're in New York state. (This is my very first time posting, I hope I flaired it okay/included all the necessary information!) | e6dmrfn | e6dn624 | 1,537,537,916 | 1,537,538,293 | 137 | 220 | Taking photos in public (even of "the children") is not illegal. | There's no expectation of privacy in a publicly accessible courtyard. It's crap like this that has caused me to largely abandon photography as a hobby. | 0 | 377 | 1.605839 |
9hm58g | legaladvice_train | 0.99 | My neighbor falsely believes my disabled BIL was being creepy and I want to protect him This all just happened today, and I haven’t had great luck googling, so I’m posting here to help myself and my husband calm down. My BIL is physically and intellectually disabled, almost completely nonverbal, and lives with my husband and I. Our apartment complex has a small courtyard with some flower beds and a playground. My BIL’s favorite thing to do after work is sit in the courtyard. He doesn’t pay much attention to the kids on the playground (or anybody else in the complex)—he'll say hi if they do, but that’s it, he’s not chatty—but he really likes the flower beds. He takes a bunch of pictures on his phone of them almost every day (we have an evening routine that includes picking one or two and deleting the rest so his phone can keep any storage space, lol). Today when I went out to get him to tell him dinner was ready, and a woman I’ve seen around but never met before came over to me. She asked me if/how I knew my BIL, and when I answered, she told me he’d been filming her daughters. I was super taken aback, and said I was almost certain there was a misunderstanding and that he was taking pictures of the flowerbeds/garden, maybe even the trees. If her daughters were in the pictures, it was probably accidental, and I said we could look at his phone together and delete any she didn't want him to keep. She said she'd seen him “filming” her kids before, multiple times, and that as soon as she got home she was calling the police. She told me she only stayed as long as she did to make sure he didn't "try anything" with other kids (?!). Look: I will be the first to admit my BIL lacks the capacity to make the best social decisions or understand how he comes off to strangers (he doesn’t “look” disabled, and he has definitely accidentally freaked people out before just because he’s very tall and quiet and doesn’t have really any social skills). But I go through his phone most nights (if I don’t, my husband does), and we’d know if he were filming or photographing children on the playground. He isn’t. I tried to explain this to my neighbor but she left. I did go through my BIL’s phone right after, and it was just the usual flower/tree pics. The back of one girl’s head was in one photo, in the corner. I asked him if he meant to take a picture of her and he told me he meant to take a picture of the tree. I have no idea if this will blow over, or what. My husband is having a lot of anxiety about it, and I won’t lie, I’m kind of stressed too—again, I know my BIL didn’t intend any harm, and I know this woman is almost certainly just a well-meaning mom who didn’t know what my BIL was doing, but I don’t want this to become a “thing.” Are there any steps I should take to ensure my BIL is protected and this all goes smoothly, or should I want to see if anything even happens? We're in New York state. (This is my very first time posting, I hope I flaired it okay/included all the necessary information!) | e6dn624 | e6dmpjb | 1,537,538,293 | 1,537,537,866 | 220 | 83 | There's no expectation of privacy in a publicly accessible courtyard. It's crap like this that has caused me to largely abandon photography as a hobby. | Even if he was filming their kids it's not illegal. I'd ignore her going forwards and if the police show up it's up to you how to proceed. You can tell them to pound sand and not talk to them or you can try to explain. I'd personally tell them to stop contacting you about this as photography in public is legal. | 1 | 427 | 2.650602 |
9hm58g | legaladvice_train | 0.99 | My neighbor falsely believes my disabled BIL was being creepy and I want to protect him This all just happened today, and I haven’t had great luck googling, so I’m posting here to help myself and my husband calm down. My BIL is physically and intellectually disabled, almost completely nonverbal, and lives with my husband and I. Our apartment complex has a small courtyard with some flower beds and a playground. My BIL’s favorite thing to do after work is sit in the courtyard. He doesn’t pay much attention to the kids on the playground (or anybody else in the complex)—he'll say hi if they do, but that’s it, he’s not chatty—but he really likes the flower beds. He takes a bunch of pictures on his phone of them almost every day (we have an evening routine that includes picking one or two and deleting the rest so his phone can keep any storage space, lol). Today when I went out to get him to tell him dinner was ready, and a woman I’ve seen around but never met before came over to me. She asked me if/how I knew my BIL, and when I answered, she told me he’d been filming her daughters. I was super taken aback, and said I was almost certain there was a misunderstanding and that he was taking pictures of the flowerbeds/garden, maybe even the trees. If her daughters were in the pictures, it was probably accidental, and I said we could look at his phone together and delete any she didn't want him to keep. She said she'd seen him “filming” her kids before, multiple times, and that as soon as she got home she was calling the police. She told me she only stayed as long as she did to make sure he didn't "try anything" with other kids (?!). Look: I will be the first to admit my BIL lacks the capacity to make the best social decisions or understand how he comes off to strangers (he doesn’t “look” disabled, and he has definitely accidentally freaked people out before just because he’s very tall and quiet and doesn’t have really any social skills). But I go through his phone most nights (if I don’t, my husband does), and we’d know if he were filming or photographing children on the playground. He isn’t. I tried to explain this to my neighbor but she left. I did go through my BIL’s phone right after, and it was just the usual flower/tree pics. The back of one girl’s head was in one photo, in the corner. I asked him if he meant to take a picture of her and he told me he meant to take a picture of the tree. I have no idea if this will blow over, or what. My husband is having a lot of anxiety about it, and I won’t lie, I’m kind of stressed too—again, I know my BIL didn’t intend any harm, and I know this woman is almost certainly just a well-meaning mom who didn’t know what my BIL was doing, but I don’t want this to become a “thing.” Are there any steps I should take to ensure my BIL is protected and this all goes smoothly, or should I want to see if anything even happens? We're in New York state. (This is my very first time posting, I hope I flaired it okay/included all the necessary information!) | e6dmpjb | e6dmrfn | 1,537,537,866 | 1,537,537,916 | 83 | 137 | Even if he was filming their kids it's not illegal. I'd ignore her going forwards and if the police show up it's up to you how to proceed. You can tell them to pound sand and not talk to them or you can try to explain. I'd personally tell them to stop contacting you about this as photography in public is legal. | Taking photos in public (even of "the children") is not illegal. | 0 | 50 | 1.650602 |
9hm58g | legaladvice_train | 0.99 | My neighbor falsely believes my disabled BIL was being creepy and I want to protect him This all just happened today, and I haven’t had great luck googling, so I’m posting here to help myself and my husband calm down. My BIL is physically and intellectually disabled, almost completely nonverbal, and lives with my husband and I. Our apartment complex has a small courtyard with some flower beds and a playground. My BIL’s favorite thing to do after work is sit in the courtyard. He doesn’t pay much attention to the kids on the playground (or anybody else in the complex)—he'll say hi if they do, but that’s it, he’s not chatty—but he really likes the flower beds. He takes a bunch of pictures on his phone of them almost every day (we have an evening routine that includes picking one or two and deleting the rest so his phone can keep any storage space, lol). Today when I went out to get him to tell him dinner was ready, and a woman I’ve seen around but never met before came over to me. She asked me if/how I knew my BIL, and when I answered, she told me he’d been filming her daughters. I was super taken aback, and said I was almost certain there was a misunderstanding and that he was taking pictures of the flowerbeds/garden, maybe even the trees. If her daughters were in the pictures, it was probably accidental, and I said we could look at his phone together and delete any she didn't want him to keep. She said she'd seen him “filming” her kids before, multiple times, and that as soon as she got home she was calling the police. She told me she only stayed as long as she did to make sure he didn't "try anything" with other kids (?!). Look: I will be the first to admit my BIL lacks the capacity to make the best social decisions or understand how he comes off to strangers (he doesn’t “look” disabled, and he has definitely accidentally freaked people out before just because he’s very tall and quiet and doesn’t have really any social skills). But I go through his phone most nights (if I don’t, my husband does), and we’d know if he were filming or photographing children on the playground. He isn’t. I tried to explain this to my neighbor but she left. I did go through my BIL’s phone right after, and it was just the usual flower/tree pics. The back of one girl’s head was in one photo, in the corner. I asked him if he meant to take a picture of her and he told me he meant to take a picture of the tree. I have no idea if this will blow over, or what. My husband is having a lot of anxiety about it, and I won’t lie, I’m kind of stressed too—again, I know my BIL didn’t intend any harm, and I know this woman is almost certainly just a well-meaning mom who didn’t know what my BIL was doing, but I don’t want this to become a “thing.” Are there any steps I should take to ensure my BIL is protected and this all goes smoothly, or should I want to see if anything even happens? We're in New York state. (This is my very first time posting, I hope I flaired it okay/included all the necessary information!) | e6e3e3q | e6dqbwg | 1,537,551,805 | 1,537,541,136 | 83 | 46 | I recommend talking to your apartments complex management and head off this lady. Reason being is she is going to complain to them and if you head them off they can tell her to go away. Hell they might be very helpful in even add more flowers and what not for him to look at and even might turn out to be your best friends as they would just say they know who she is talking about. Add in they have verified multiple times all he does is take photos. This can turn into who goes to management first. Legal or not this lady can make your life hell best way to prevent it is step in with some alias. You are doing a great thing taking care of your BIL. I know it is not easy. ​ ​ | I think you need a lawyer. Someone who can speak to the police, if necessary, but also someone who can speak to the property manager, and advocate for your BIL’s rights. He may qualify for legal aid or free/reduced cost representation due to his disabilities. Also, you need to talk to the apartment complex manager, ASAP. I can almost guarantee that this woman has contacted them already, or will do so soon. She is probably already warning other tenants with kids about the “creepy guy,” who “photographs children.” I know you’re worried about legal ramifications for BIL, but you should also be concerned about possible housing issues. This situation could get out of control quickly, and you don’t want to face harassment or eviction. | 1 | 10,669 | 1.804348 |
9hm58g | legaladvice_train | 0.99 | My neighbor falsely believes my disabled BIL was being creepy and I want to protect him This all just happened today, and I haven’t had great luck googling, so I’m posting here to help myself and my husband calm down. My BIL is physically and intellectually disabled, almost completely nonverbal, and lives with my husband and I. Our apartment complex has a small courtyard with some flower beds and a playground. My BIL’s favorite thing to do after work is sit in the courtyard. He doesn’t pay much attention to the kids on the playground (or anybody else in the complex)—he'll say hi if they do, but that’s it, he’s not chatty—but he really likes the flower beds. He takes a bunch of pictures on his phone of them almost every day (we have an evening routine that includes picking one or two and deleting the rest so his phone can keep any storage space, lol). Today when I went out to get him to tell him dinner was ready, and a woman I’ve seen around but never met before came over to me. She asked me if/how I knew my BIL, and when I answered, she told me he’d been filming her daughters. I was super taken aback, and said I was almost certain there was a misunderstanding and that he was taking pictures of the flowerbeds/garden, maybe even the trees. If her daughters were in the pictures, it was probably accidental, and I said we could look at his phone together and delete any she didn't want him to keep. She said she'd seen him “filming” her kids before, multiple times, and that as soon as she got home she was calling the police. She told me she only stayed as long as she did to make sure he didn't "try anything" with other kids (?!). Look: I will be the first to admit my BIL lacks the capacity to make the best social decisions or understand how he comes off to strangers (he doesn’t “look” disabled, and he has definitely accidentally freaked people out before just because he’s very tall and quiet and doesn’t have really any social skills). But I go through his phone most nights (if I don’t, my husband does), and we’d know if he were filming or photographing children on the playground. He isn’t. I tried to explain this to my neighbor but she left. I did go through my BIL’s phone right after, and it was just the usual flower/tree pics. The back of one girl’s head was in one photo, in the corner. I asked him if he meant to take a picture of her and he told me he meant to take a picture of the tree. I have no idea if this will blow over, or what. My husband is having a lot of anxiety about it, and I won’t lie, I’m kind of stressed too—again, I know my BIL didn’t intend any harm, and I know this woman is almost certainly just a well-meaning mom who didn’t know what my BIL was doing, but I don’t want this to become a “thing.” Are there any steps I should take to ensure my BIL is protected and this all goes smoothly, or should I want to see if anything even happens? We're in New York state. (This is my very first time posting, I hope I flaired it okay/included all the necessary information!) | e6e3e3q | e6e2f9m | 1,537,551,805 | 1,537,551,012 | 83 | 16 | I recommend talking to your apartments complex management and head off this lady. Reason being is she is going to complain to them and if you head them off they can tell her to go away. Hell they might be very helpful in even add more flowers and what not for him to look at and even might turn out to be your best friends as they would just say they know who she is talking about. Add in they have verified multiple times all he does is take photos. This can turn into who goes to management first. Legal or not this lady can make your life hell best way to prevent it is step in with some alias. You are doing a great thing taking care of your BIL. I know it is not easy. ​ ​ | Can OP go on the attack first? Have a lawyer send the nosy neighbor a letter about harassing the disabled? Maybe have the police show up to the neighbor's place first? Edit added later: Why the downvotes? It seems like a good question to me. Does Reddiquette exist on /r/legaladvice ? | 1 | 793 | 5.1875 |
9hm58g | legaladvice_train | 0.99 | My neighbor falsely believes my disabled BIL was being creepy and I want to protect him This all just happened today, and I haven’t had great luck googling, so I’m posting here to help myself and my husband calm down. My BIL is physically and intellectually disabled, almost completely nonverbal, and lives with my husband and I. Our apartment complex has a small courtyard with some flower beds and a playground. My BIL’s favorite thing to do after work is sit in the courtyard. He doesn’t pay much attention to the kids on the playground (or anybody else in the complex)—he'll say hi if they do, but that’s it, he’s not chatty—but he really likes the flower beds. He takes a bunch of pictures on his phone of them almost every day (we have an evening routine that includes picking one or two and deleting the rest so his phone can keep any storage space, lol). Today when I went out to get him to tell him dinner was ready, and a woman I’ve seen around but never met before came over to me. She asked me if/how I knew my BIL, and when I answered, she told me he’d been filming her daughters. I was super taken aback, and said I was almost certain there was a misunderstanding and that he was taking pictures of the flowerbeds/garden, maybe even the trees. If her daughters were in the pictures, it was probably accidental, and I said we could look at his phone together and delete any she didn't want him to keep. She said she'd seen him “filming” her kids before, multiple times, and that as soon as she got home she was calling the police. She told me she only stayed as long as she did to make sure he didn't "try anything" with other kids (?!). Look: I will be the first to admit my BIL lacks the capacity to make the best social decisions or understand how he comes off to strangers (he doesn’t “look” disabled, and he has definitely accidentally freaked people out before just because he’s very tall and quiet and doesn’t have really any social skills). But I go through his phone most nights (if I don’t, my husband does), and we’d know if he were filming or photographing children on the playground. He isn’t. I tried to explain this to my neighbor but she left. I did go through my BIL’s phone right after, and it was just the usual flower/tree pics. The back of one girl’s head was in one photo, in the corner. I asked him if he meant to take a picture of her and he told me he meant to take a picture of the tree. I have no idea if this will blow over, or what. My husband is having a lot of anxiety about it, and I won’t lie, I’m kind of stressed too—again, I know my BIL didn’t intend any harm, and I know this woman is almost certainly just a well-meaning mom who didn’t know what my BIL was doing, but I don’t want this to become a “thing.” Are there any steps I should take to ensure my BIL is protected and this all goes smoothly, or should I want to see if anything even happens? We're in New York state. (This is my very first time posting, I hope I flaired it okay/included all the necessary information!) | e6dn8t0 | e6e3e3q | 1,537,538,363 | 1,537,551,805 | 14 | 83 | From the other responses to this thread it seems like he has every legal right to take whatever photos he wants, but that doesn't mean that's necessarily the best decision to make. Would it work to explain to your BIL that the wisest thing would be to take photos only when there aren't kids playing in the courtyard, because people can get uncomfortable when they think they're being photographed? Because it seems like that would save a lot of stress for everyone concerned. Or are there always kids out there, so that he doesn't really have that option? | I recommend talking to your apartments complex management and head off this lady. Reason being is she is going to complain to them and if you head them off they can tell her to go away. Hell they might be very helpful in even add more flowers and what not for him to look at and even might turn out to be your best friends as they would just say they know who she is talking about. Add in they have verified multiple times all he does is take photos. This can turn into who goes to management first. Legal or not this lady can make your life hell best way to prevent it is step in with some alias. You are doing a great thing taking care of your BIL. I know it is not easy. ​ ​ | 0 | 13,442 | 5.928571 |
9hm58g | legaladvice_train | 0.99 | My neighbor falsely believes my disabled BIL was being creepy and I want to protect him This all just happened today, and I haven’t had great luck googling, so I’m posting here to help myself and my husband calm down. My BIL is physically and intellectually disabled, almost completely nonverbal, and lives with my husband and I. Our apartment complex has a small courtyard with some flower beds and a playground. My BIL’s favorite thing to do after work is sit in the courtyard. He doesn’t pay much attention to the kids on the playground (or anybody else in the complex)—he'll say hi if they do, but that’s it, he’s not chatty—but he really likes the flower beds. He takes a bunch of pictures on his phone of them almost every day (we have an evening routine that includes picking one or two and deleting the rest so his phone can keep any storage space, lol). Today when I went out to get him to tell him dinner was ready, and a woman I’ve seen around but never met before came over to me. She asked me if/how I knew my BIL, and when I answered, she told me he’d been filming her daughters. I was super taken aback, and said I was almost certain there was a misunderstanding and that he was taking pictures of the flowerbeds/garden, maybe even the trees. If her daughters were in the pictures, it was probably accidental, and I said we could look at his phone together and delete any she didn't want him to keep. She said she'd seen him “filming” her kids before, multiple times, and that as soon as she got home she was calling the police. She told me she only stayed as long as she did to make sure he didn't "try anything" with other kids (?!). Look: I will be the first to admit my BIL lacks the capacity to make the best social decisions or understand how he comes off to strangers (he doesn’t “look” disabled, and he has definitely accidentally freaked people out before just because he’s very tall and quiet and doesn’t have really any social skills). But I go through his phone most nights (if I don’t, my husband does), and we’d know if he were filming or photographing children on the playground. He isn’t. I tried to explain this to my neighbor but she left. I did go through my BIL’s phone right after, and it was just the usual flower/tree pics. The back of one girl’s head was in one photo, in the corner. I asked him if he meant to take a picture of her and he told me he meant to take a picture of the tree. I have no idea if this will blow over, or what. My husband is having a lot of anxiety about it, and I won’t lie, I’m kind of stressed too—again, I know my BIL didn’t intend any harm, and I know this woman is almost certainly just a well-meaning mom who didn’t know what my BIL was doing, but I don’t want this to become a “thing.” Are there any steps I should take to ensure my BIL is protected and this all goes smoothly, or should I want to see if anything even happens? We're in New York state. (This is my very first time posting, I hope I flaired it okay/included all the necessary information!) | e6dqbwg | e6dn8t0 | 1,537,541,136 | 1,537,538,363 | 46 | 14 | I think you need a lawyer. Someone who can speak to the police, if necessary, but also someone who can speak to the property manager, and advocate for your BIL’s rights. He may qualify for legal aid or free/reduced cost representation due to his disabilities. Also, you need to talk to the apartment complex manager, ASAP. I can almost guarantee that this woman has contacted them already, or will do so soon. She is probably already warning other tenants with kids about the “creepy guy,” who “photographs children.” I know you’re worried about legal ramifications for BIL, but you should also be concerned about possible housing issues. This situation could get out of control quickly, and you don’t want to face harassment or eviction. | From the other responses to this thread it seems like he has every legal right to take whatever photos he wants, but that doesn't mean that's necessarily the best decision to make. Would it work to explain to your BIL that the wisest thing would be to take photos only when there aren't kids playing in the courtyard, because people can get uncomfortable when they think they're being photographed? Because it seems like that would save a lot of stress for everyone concerned. Or are there always kids out there, so that he doesn't really have that option? | 1 | 2,773 | 3.285714 |
9hm58g | legaladvice_train | 0.99 | My neighbor falsely believes my disabled BIL was being creepy and I want to protect him This all just happened today, and I haven’t had great luck googling, so I’m posting here to help myself and my husband calm down. My BIL is physically and intellectually disabled, almost completely nonverbal, and lives with my husband and I. Our apartment complex has a small courtyard with some flower beds and a playground. My BIL’s favorite thing to do after work is sit in the courtyard. He doesn’t pay much attention to the kids on the playground (or anybody else in the complex)—he'll say hi if they do, but that’s it, he’s not chatty—but he really likes the flower beds. He takes a bunch of pictures on his phone of them almost every day (we have an evening routine that includes picking one or two and deleting the rest so his phone can keep any storage space, lol). Today when I went out to get him to tell him dinner was ready, and a woman I’ve seen around but never met before came over to me. She asked me if/how I knew my BIL, and when I answered, she told me he’d been filming her daughters. I was super taken aback, and said I was almost certain there was a misunderstanding and that he was taking pictures of the flowerbeds/garden, maybe even the trees. If her daughters were in the pictures, it was probably accidental, and I said we could look at his phone together and delete any she didn't want him to keep. She said she'd seen him “filming” her kids before, multiple times, and that as soon as she got home she was calling the police. She told me she only stayed as long as she did to make sure he didn't "try anything" with other kids (?!). Look: I will be the first to admit my BIL lacks the capacity to make the best social decisions or understand how he comes off to strangers (he doesn’t “look” disabled, and he has definitely accidentally freaked people out before just because he’s very tall and quiet and doesn’t have really any social skills). But I go through his phone most nights (if I don’t, my husband does), and we’d know if he were filming or photographing children on the playground. He isn’t. I tried to explain this to my neighbor but she left. I did go through my BIL’s phone right after, and it was just the usual flower/tree pics. The back of one girl’s head was in one photo, in the corner. I asked him if he meant to take a picture of her and he told me he meant to take a picture of the tree. I have no idea if this will blow over, or what. My husband is having a lot of anxiety about it, and I won’t lie, I’m kind of stressed too—again, I know my BIL didn’t intend any harm, and I know this woman is almost certainly just a well-meaning mom who didn’t know what my BIL was doing, but I don’t want this to become a “thing.” Are there any steps I should take to ensure my BIL is protected and this all goes smoothly, or should I want to see if anything even happens? We're in New York state. (This is my very first time posting, I hope I flaired it okay/included all the necessary information!) | e6e6l3j | e6e2f9m | 1,537,554,420 | 1,537,551,012 | 33 | 16 | Not a lawyer. Seconding a lot of what's being said. Keep an auto-backup app on his phone (Google Photos is a great one), don't delete things from the days of confrontation, and if the police come, just be polite, share the pics, and explain what happened. He's not doing anything illegal. ​ As well, does the local police department know your family and situation? Is it a smaller town or city? If you've not been caring for him for a long time, and he's new to living with you (relative to where he used to live), would it be worth emailing the station or setting up an appointment with an office just to chat and get familiar? I've never been in this situation or know if that's a good idea, but eh. The cops in my neighborhood know who I am and we say hi, so figured it may be worth a chat. ​ Or, is there a way he can carry a laminated ID/explanation card with him, that has all of your contact info on it as well as his doctors, in case something happens and you're not around to interject? If he's non-communicative, police may also not immediately recognize the situation. Not to be scary or anything, just to be safe. My dad has medical issues and has a card like that on him and now in his kitchen as he's getting older. If no one's around and something happens, at least the info needed to help him is visible. ​ Lastly, this is a bigger indication of the kind of person this woman is. Even if her mom instincts or whatever are kicking in, her human instincts should process your conversation and act like a normal person after that. | Can OP go on the attack first? Have a lawyer send the nosy neighbor a letter about harassing the disabled? Maybe have the police show up to the neighbor's place first? Edit added later: Why the downvotes? It seems like a good question to me. Does Reddiquette exist on /r/legaladvice ? | 1 | 3,408 | 2.0625 |
9hm58g | legaladvice_train | 0.99 | My neighbor falsely believes my disabled BIL was being creepy and I want to protect him This all just happened today, and I haven’t had great luck googling, so I’m posting here to help myself and my husband calm down. My BIL is physically and intellectually disabled, almost completely nonverbal, and lives with my husband and I. Our apartment complex has a small courtyard with some flower beds and a playground. My BIL’s favorite thing to do after work is sit in the courtyard. He doesn’t pay much attention to the kids on the playground (or anybody else in the complex)—he'll say hi if they do, but that’s it, he’s not chatty—but he really likes the flower beds. He takes a bunch of pictures on his phone of them almost every day (we have an evening routine that includes picking one or two and deleting the rest so his phone can keep any storage space, lol). Today when I went out to get him to tell him dinner was ready, and a woman I’ve seen around but never met before came over to me. She asked me if/how I knew my BIL, and when I answered, she told me he’d been filming her daughters. I was super taken aback, and said I was almost certain there was a misunderstanding and that he was taking pictures of the flowerbeds/garden, maybe even the trees. If her daughters were in the pictures, it was probably accidental, and I said we could look at his phone together and delete any she didn't want him to keep. She said she'd seen him “filming” her kids before, multiple times, and that as soon as she got home she was calling the police. She told me she only stayed as long as she did to make sure he didn't "try anything" with other kids (?!). Look: I will be the first to admit my BIL lacks the capacity to make the best social decisions or understand how he comes off to strangers (he doesn’t “look” disabled, and he has definitely accidentally freaked people out before just because he’s very tall and quiet and doesn’t have really any social skills). But I go through his phone most nights (if I don’t, my husband does), and we’d know if he were filming or photographing children on the playground. He isn’t. I tried to explain this to my neighbor but she left. I did go through my BIL’s phone right after, and it was just the usual flower/tree pics. The back of one girl’s head was in one photo, in the corner. I asked him if he meant to take a picture of her and he told me he meant to take a picture of the tree. I have no idea if this will blow over, or what. My husband is having a lot of anxiety about it, and I won’t lie, I’m kind of stressed too—again, I know my BIL didn’t intend any harm, and I know this woman is almost certainly just a well-meaning mom who didn’t know what my BIL was doing, but I don’t want this to become a “thing.” Are there any steps I should take to ensure my BIL is protected and this all goes smoothly, or should I want to see if anything even happens? We're in New York state. (This is my very first time posting, I hope I flaired it okay/included all the necessary information!) | e6dn8t0 | e6e6l3j | 1,537,538,363 | 1,537,554,420 | 14 | 33 | From the other responses to this thread it seems like he has every legal right to take whatever photos he wants, but that doesn't mean that's necessarily the best decision to make. Would it work to explain to your BIL that the wisest thing would be to take photos only when there aren't kids playing in the courtyard, because people can get uncomfortable when they think they're being photographed? Because it seems like that would save a lot of stress for everyone concerned. Or are there always kids out there, so that he doesn't really have that option? | Not a lawyer. Seconding a lot of what's being said. Keep an auto-backup app on his phone (Google Photos is a great one), don't delete things from the days of confrontation, and if the police come, just be polite, share the pics, and explain what happened. He's not doing anything illegal. ​ As well, does the local police department know your family and situation? Is it a smaller town or city? If you've not been caring for him for a long time, and he's new to living with you (relative to where he used to live), would it be worth emailing the station or setting up an appointment with an office just to chat and get familiar? I've never been in this situation or know if that's a good idea, but eh. The cops in my neighborhood know who I am and we say hi, so figured it may be worth a chat. ​ Or, is there a way he can carry a laminated ID/explanation card with him, that has all of your contact info on it as well as his doctors, in case something happens and you're not around to interject? If he's non-communicative, police may also not immediately recognize the situation. Not to be scary or anything, just to be safe. My dad has medical issues and has a card like that on him and now in his kitchen as he's getting older. If no one's around and something happens, at least the info needed to help him is visible. ​ Lastly, this is a bigger indication of the kind of person this woman is. Even if her mom instincts or whatever are kicking in, her human instincts should process your conversation and act like a normal person after that. | 0 | 16,057 | 2.357143 |
9hm58g | legaladvice_train | 0.99 | My neighbor falsely believes my disabled BIL was being creepy and I want to protect him This all just happened today, and I haven’t had great luck googling, so I’m posting here to help myself and my husband calm down. My BIL is physically and intellectually disabled, almost completely nonverbal, and lives with my husband and I. Our apartment complex has a small courtyard with some flower beds and a playground. My BIL’s favorite thing to do after work is sit in the courtyard. He doesn’t pay much attention to the kids on the playground (or anybody else in the complex)—he'll say hi if they do, but that’s it, he’s not chatty—but he really likes the flower beds. He takes a bunch of pictures on his phone of them almost every day (we have an evening routine that includes picking one or two and deleting the rest so his phone can keep any storage space, lol). Today when I went out to get him to tell him dinner was ready, and a woman I’ve seen around but never met before came over to me. She asked me if/how I knew my BIL, and when I answered, she told me he’d been filming her daughters. I was super taken aback, and said I was almost certain there was a misunderstanding and that he was taking pictures of the flowerbeds/garden, maybe even the trees. If her daughters were in the pictures, it was probably accidental, and I said we could look at his phone together and delete any she didn't want him to keep. She said she'd seen him “filming” her kids before, multiple times, and that as soon as she got home she was calling the police. She told me she only stayed as long as she did to make sure he didn't "try anything" with other kids (?!). Look: I will be the first to admit my BIL lacks the capacity to make the best social decisions or understand how he comes off to strangers (he doesn’t “look” disabled, and he has definitely accidentally freaked people out before just because he’s very tall and quiet and doesn’t have really any social skills). But I go through his phone most nights (if I don’t, my husband does), and we’d know if he were filming or photographing children on the playground. He isn’t. I tried to explain this to my neighbor but she left. I did go through my BIL’s phone right after, and it was just the usual flower/tree pics. The back of one girl’s head was in one photo, in the corner. I asked him if he meant to take a picture of her and he told me he meant to take a picture of the tree. I have no idea if this will blow over, or what. My husband is having a lot of anxiety about it, and I won’t lie, I’m kind of stressed too—again, I know my BIL didn’t intend any harm, and I know this woman is almost certainly just a well-meaning mom who didn’t know what my BIL was doing, but I don’t want this to become a “thing.” Are there any steps I should take to ensure my BIL is protected and this all goes smoothly, or should I want to see if anything even happens? We're in New York state. (This is my very first time posting, I hope I flaired it okay/included all the necessary information!) | e6fefpi | e6e2f9m | 1,537,605,542 | 1,537,551,012 | 27 | 16 | God bless you for taking in your BIL. It's people like you that restore my faith in humanity and it's people like your neighbor that severely test that faith. I am not a lawyer but she can go pound sand. You have already explained that he's disabled and does not intend to be "creepy" so she's just harassing you at this point. I doubt that any cops will show up but if they do just explain the situation. If you're concerned then talk to a lawyer or ask for a lawyer and then keep quiet. Hang in there. | Can OP go on the attack first? Have a lawyer send the nosy neighbor a letter about harassing the disabled? Maybe have the police show up to the neighbor's place first? Edit added later: Why the downvotes? It seems like a good question to me. Does Reddiquette exist on /r/legaladvice ? | 1 | 54,530 | 1.6875 |
9hm58g | legaladvice_train | 0.99 | My neighbor falsely believes my disabled BIL was being creepy and I want to protect him This all just happened today, and I haven’t had great luck googling, so I’m posting here to help myself and my husband calm down. My BIL is physically and intellectually disabled, almost completely nonverbal, and lives with my husband and I. Our apartment complex has a small courtyard with some flower beds and a playground. My BIL’s favorite thing to do after work is sit in the courtyard. He doesn’t pay much attention to the kids on the playground (or anybody else in the complex)—he'll say hi if they do, but that’s it, he’s not chatty—but he really likes the flower beds. He takes a bunch of pictures on his phone of them almost every day (we have an evening routine that includes picking one or two and deleting the rest so his phone can keep any storage space, lol). Today when I went out to get him to tell him dinner was ready, and a woman I’ve seen around but never met before came over to me. She asked me if/how I knew my BIL, and when I answered, she told me he’d been filming her daughters. I was super taken aback, and said I was almost certain there was a misunderstanding and that he was taking pictures of the flowerbeds/garden, maybe even the trees. If her daughters were in the pictures, it was probably accidental, and I said we could look at his phone together and delete any she didn't want him to keep. She said she'd seen him “filming” her kids before, multiple times, and that as soon as she got home she was calling the police. She told me she only stayed as long as she did to make sure he didn't "try anything" with other kids (?!). Look: I will be the first to admit my BIL lacks the capacity to make the best social decisions or understand how he comes off to strangers (he doesn’t “look” disabled, and he has definitely accidentally freaked people out before just because he’s very tall and quiet and doesn’t have really any social skills). But I go through his phone most nights (if I don’t, my husband does), and we’d know if he were filming or photographing children on the playground. He isn’t. I tried to explain this to my neighbor but she left. I did go through my BIL’s phone right after, and it was just the usual flower/tree pics. The back of one girl’s head was in one photo, in the corner. I asked him if he meant to take a picture of her and he told me he meant to take a picture of the tree. I have no idea if this will blow over, or what. My husband is having a lot of anxiety about it, and I won’t lie, I’m kind of stressed too—again, I know my BIL didn’t intend any harm, and I know this woman is almost certainly just a well-meaning mom who didn’t know what my BIL was doing, but I don’t want this to become a “thing.” Are there any steps I should take to ensure my BIL is protected and this all goes smoothly, or should I want to see if anything even happens? We're in New York state. (This is my very first time posting, I hope I flaired it okay/included all the necessary information!) | e6edvsc | e6fefpi | 1,537,560,636 | 1,537,605,542 | 17 | 27 | You should discretely observe his entire routine to make sure you have a clear understanding of what it actually entails. His pictures dont tell you anything about his social interactions or movement pattern. You may not have the full story. | God bless you for taking in your BIL. It's people like you that restore my faith in humanity and it's people like your neighbor that severely test that faith. I am not a lawyer but she can go pound sand. You have already explained that he's disabled and does not intend to be "creepy" so she's just harassing you at this point. I doubt that any cops will show up but if they do just explain the situation. If you're concerned then talk to a lawyer or ask for a lawyer and then keep quiet. Hang in there. | 0 | 44,906 | 1.588235 |
9hm58g | legaladvice_train | 0.99 | My neighbor falsely believes my disabled BIL was being creepy and I want to protect him This all just happened today, and I haven’t had great luck googling, so I’m posting here to help myself and my husband calm down. My BIL is physically and intellectually disabled, almost completely nonverbal, and lives with my husband and I. Our apartment complex has a small courtyard with some flower beds and a playground. My BIL’s favorite thing to do after work is sit in the courtyard. He doesn’t pay much attention to the kids on the playground (or anybody else in the complex)—he'll say hi if they do, but that’s it, he’s not chatty—but he really likes the flower beds. He takes a bunch of pictures on his phone of them almost every day (we have an evening routine that includes picking one or two and deleting the rest so his phone can keep any storage space, lol). Today when I went out to get him to tell him dinner was ready, and a woman I’ve seen around but never met before came over to me. She asked me if/how I knew my BIL, and when I answered, she told me he’d been filming her daughters. I was super taken aback, and said I was almost certain there was a misunderstanding and that he was taking pictures of the flowerbeds/garden, maybe even the trees. If her daughters were in the pictures, it was probably accidental, and I said we could look at his phone together and delete any she didn't want him to keep. She said she'd seen him “filming” her kids before, multiple times, and that as soon as she got home she was calling the police. She told me she only stayed as long as she did to make sure he didn't "try anything" with other kids (?!). Look: I will be the first to admit my BIL lacks the capacity to make the best social decisions or understand how he comes off to strangers (he doesn’t “look” disabled, and he has definitely accidentally freaked people out before just because he’s very tall and quiet and doesn’t have really any social skills). But I go through his phone most nights (if I don’t, my husband does), and we’d know if he were filming or photographing children on the playground. He isn’t. I tried to explain this to my neighbor but she left. I did go through my BIL’s phone right after, and it was just the usual flower/tree pics. The back of one girl’s head was in one photo, in the corner. I asked him if he meant to take a picture of her and he told me he meant to take a picture of the tree. I have no idea if this will blow over, or what. My husband is having a lot of anxiety about it, and I won’t lie, I’m kind of stressed too—again, I know my BIL didn’t intend any harm, and I know this woman is almost certainly just a well-meaning mom who didn’t know what my BIL was doing, but I don’t want this to become a “thing.” Are there any steps I should take to ensure my BIL is protected and this all goes smoothly, or should I want to see if anything even happens? We're in New York state. (This is my very first time posting, I hope I flaired it okay/included all the necessary information!) | e6fefpi | e6dn8t0 | 1,537,605,542 | 1,537,538,363 | 27 | 14 | God bless you for taking in your BIL. It's people like you that restore my faith in humanity and it's people like your neighbor that severely test that faith. I am not a lawyer but she can go pound sand. You have already explained that he's disabled and does not intend to be "creepy" so she's just harassing you at this point. I doubt that any cops will show up but if they do just explain the situation. If you're concerned then talk to a lawyer or ask for a lawyer and then keep quiet. Hang in there. | From the other responses to this thread it seems like he has every legal right to take whatever photos he wants, but that doesn't mean that's necessarily the best decision to make. Would it work to explain to your BIL that the wisest thing would be to take photos only when there aren't kids playing in the courtyard, because people can get uncomfortable when they think they're being photographed? Because it seems like that would save a lot of stress for everyone concerned. Or are there always kids out there, so that he doesn't really have that option? | 1 | 67,179 | 1.928571 |
9hm58g | legaladvice_train | 0.99 | My neighbor falsely believes my disabled BIL was being creepy and I want to protect him This all just happened today, and I haven’t had great luck googling, so I’m posting here to help myself and my husband calm down. My BIL is physically and intellectually disabled, almost completely nonverbal, and lives with my husband and I. Our apartment complex has a small courtyard with some flower beds and a playground. My BIL’s favorite thing to do after work is sit in the courtyard. He doesn’t pay much attention to the kids on the playground (or anybody else in the complex)—he'll say hi if they do, but that’s it, he’s not chatty—but he really likes the flower beds. He takes a bunch of pictures on his phone of them almost every day (we have an evening routine that includes picking one or two and deleting the rest so his phone can keep any storage space, lol). Today when I went out to get him to tell him dinner was ready, and a woman I’ve seen around but never met before came over to me. She asked me if/how I knew my BIL, and when I answered, she told me he’d been filming her daughters. I was super taken aback, and said I was almost certain there was a misunderstanding and that he was taking pictures of the flowerbeds/garden, maybe even the trees. If her daughters were in the pictures, it was probably accidental, and I said we could look at his phone together and delete any she didn't want him to keep. She said she'd seen him “filming” her kids before, multiple times, and that as soon as she got home she was calling the police. She told me she only stayed as long as she did to make sure he didn't "try anything" with other kids (?!). Look: I will be the first to admit my BIL lacks the capacity to make the best social decisions or understand how he comes off to strangers (he doesn’t “look” disabled, and he has definitely accidentally freaked people out before just because he’s very tall and quiet and doesn’t have really any social skills). But I go through his phone most nights (if I don’t, my husband does), and we’d know if he were filming or photographing children on the playground. He isn’t. I tried to explain this to my neighbor but she left. I did go through my BIL’s phone right after, and it was just the usual flower/tree pics. The back of one girl’s head was in one photo, in the corner. I asked him if he meant to take a picture of her and he told me he meant to take a picture of the tree. I have no idea if this will blow over, or what. My husband is having a lot of anxiety about it, and I won’t lie, I’m kind of stressed too—again, I know my BIL didn’t intend any harm, and I know this woman is almost certainly just a well-meaning mom who didn’t know what my BIL was doing, but I don’t want this to become a “thing.” Are there any steps I should take to ensure my BIL is protected and this all goes smoothly, or should I want to see if anything even happens? We're in New York state. (This is my very first time posting, I hope I flaired it okay/included all the necessary information!) | e6edvsc | e6e2f9m | 1,537,560,636 | 1,537,551,012 | 17 | 16 | You should discretely observe his entire routine to make sure you have a clear understanding of what it actually entails. His pictures dont tell you anything about his social interactions or movement pattern. You may not have the full story. | Can OP go on the attack first? Have a lawyer send the nosy neighbor a letter about harassing the disabled? Maybe have the police show up to the neighbor's place first? Edit added later: Why the downvotes? It seems like a good question to me. Does Reddiquette exist on /r/legaladvice ? | 1 | 9,624 | 1.0625 |
9hm58g | legaladvice_train | 0.99 | My neighbor falsely believes my disabled BIL was being creepy and I want to protect him This all just happened today, and I haven’t had great luck googling, so I’m posting here to help myself and my husband calm down. My BIL is physically and intellectually disabled, almost completely nonverbal, and lives with my husband and I. Our apartment complex has a small courtyard with some flower beds and a playground. My BIL’s favorite thing to do after work is sit in the courtyard. He doesn’t pay much attention to the kids on the playground (or anybody else in the complex)—he'll say hi if they do, but that’s it, he’s not chatty—but he really likes the flower beds. He takes a bunch of pictures on his phone of them almost every day (we have an evening routine that includes picking one or two and deleting the rest so his phone can keep any storage space, lol). Today when I went out to get him to tell him dinner was ready, and a woman I’ve seen around but never met before came over to me. She asked me if/how I knew my BIL, and when I answered, she told me he’d been filming her daughters. I was super taken aback, and said I was almost certain there was a misunderstanding and that he was taking pictures of the flowerbeds/garden, maybe even the trees. If her daughters were in the pictures, it was probably accidental, and I said we could look at his phone together and delete any she didn't want him to keep. She said she'd seen him “filming” her kids before, multiple times, and that as soon as she got home she was calling the police. She told me she only stayed as long as she did to make sure he didn't "try anything" with other kids (?!). Look: I will be the first to admit my BIL lacks the capacity to make the best social decisions or understand how he comes off to strangers (he doesn’t “look” disabled, and he has definitely accidentally freaked people out before just because he’s very tall and quiet and doesn’t have really any social skills). But I go through his phone most nights (if I don’t, my husband does), and we’d know if he were filming or photographing children on the playground. He isn’t. I tried to explain this to my neighbor but she left. I did go through my BIL’s phone right after, and it was just the usual flower/tree pics. The back of one girl’s head was in one photo, in the corner. I asked him if he meant to take a picture of her and he told me he meant to take a picture of the tree. I have no idea if this will blow over, or what. My husband is having a lot of anxiety about it, and I won’t lie, I’m kind of stressed too—again, I know my BIL didn’t intend any harm, and I know this woman is almost certainly just a well-meaning mom who didn’t know what my BIL was doing, but I don’t want this to become a “thing.” Are there any steps I should take to ensure my BIL is protected and this all goes smoothly, or should I want to see if anything even happens? We're in New York state. (This is my very first time posting, I hope I flaired it okay/included all the necessary information!) | e6dn8t0 | e6e2f9m | 1,537,538,363 | 1,537,551,012 | 14 | 16 | From the other responses to this thread it seems like he has every legal right to take whatever photos he wants, but that doesn't mean that's necessarily the best decision to make. Would it work to explain to your BIL that the wisest thing would be to take photos only when there aren't kids playing in the courtyard, because people can get uncomfortable when they think they're being photographed? Because it seems like that would save a lot of stress for everyone concerned. Or are there always kids out there, so that he doesn't really have that option? | Can OP go on the attack first? Have a lawyer send the nosy neighbor a letter about harassing the disabled? Maybe have the police show up to the neighbor's place first? Edit added later: Why the downvotes? It seems like a good question to me. Does Reddiquette exist on /r/legaladvice ? | 0 | 12,649 | 1.142857 |
9hm58g | legaladvice_train | 0.99 | My neighbor falsely believes my disabled BIL was being creepy and I want to protect him This all just happened today, and I haven’t had great luck googling, so I’m posting here to help myself and my husband calm down. My BIL is physically and intellectually disabled, almost completely nonverbal, and lives with my husband and I. Our apartment complex has a small courtyard with some flower beds and a playground. My BIL’s favorite thing to do after work is sit in the courtyard. He doesn’t pay much attention to the kids on the playground (or anybody else in the complex)—he'll say hi if they do, but that’s it, he’s not chatty—but he really likes the flower beds. He takes a bunch of pictures on his phone of them almost every day (we have an evening routine that includes picking one or two and deleting the rest so his phone can keep any storage space, lol). Today when I went out to get him to tell him dinner was ready, and a woman I’ve seen around but never met before came over to me. She asked me if/how I knew my BIL, and when I answered, she told me he’d been filming her daughters. I was super taken aback, and said I was almost certain there was a misunderstanding and that he was taking pictures of the flowerbeds/garden, maybe even the trees. If her daughters were in the pictures, it was probably accidental, and I said we could look at his phone together and delete any she didn't want him to keep. She said she'd seen him “filming” her kids before, multiple times, and that as soon as she got home she was calling the police. She told me she only stayed as long as she did to make sure he didn't "try anything" with other kids (?!). Look: I will be the first to admit my BIL lacks the capacity to make the best social decisions or understand how he comes off to strangers (he doesn’t “look” disabled, and he has definitely accidentally freaked people out before just because he’s very tall and quiet and doesn’t have really any social skills). But I go through his phone most nights (if I don’t, my husband does), and we’d know if he were filming or photographing children on the playground. He isn’t. I tried to explain this to my neighbor but she left. I did go through my BIL’s phone right after, and it was just the usual flower/tree pics. The back of one girl’s head was in one photo, in the corner. I asked him if he meant to take a picture of her and he told me he meant to take a picture of the tree. I have no idea if this will blow over, or what. My husband is having a lot of anxiety about it, and I won’t lie, I’m kind of stressed too—again, I know my BIL didn’t intend any harm, and I know this woman is almost certainly just a well-meaning mom who didn’t know what my BIL was doing, but I don’t want this to become a “thing.” Are there any steps I should take to ensure my BIL is protected and this all goes smoothly, or should I want to see if anything even happens? We're in New York state. (This is my very first time posting, I hope I flaired it okay/included all the necessary information!) | e6dn8t0 | e6edvsc | 1,537,538,363 | 1,537,560,636 | 14 | 17 | From the other responses to this thread it seems like he has every legal right to take whatever photos he wants, but that doesn't mean that's necessarily the best decision to make. Would it work to explain to your BIL that the wisest thing would be to take photos only when there aren't kids playing in the courtyard, because people can get uncomfortable when they think they're being photographed? Because it seems like that would save a lot of stress for everyone concerned. Or are there always kids out there, so that he doesn't really have that option? | You should discretely observe his entire routine to make sure you have a clear understanding of what it actually entails. His pictures dont tell you anything about his social interactions or movement pattern. You may not have the full story. | 0 | 22,273 | 1.214286 |
ydm84p | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Adult harboring my runaway child falsely claimed to be their caregiver at the ER. We are in Ohio. I apologize in advance for the length of this post. This story is insane and I am still in complete shock. This past Thursday my extremely troubled teenager (14) assaulted my husband when confronted about a stolen vape pen and then fled to the home of a friend. Police were contacted and he told them my husband assaulted him. No charges were filed against either of them because their stories conflicted and they both had injuries (my husband scratches on his neck from where my stepson grabbed his throat and dug in his nails, my stepson bruises from where my husband pushed him to the ground to get him to let go.) We allowed him to stay the night at this friend’s house to cool off, and he texted that he’d be returning in the morning. The next morning he texted my husband that he hated him, that he was not coming back, and accused my husband of “strangling” him. My husband told him that they both knew that wasn’t what happened, that they needed to discuss his behavior and what our next steps were going to be, and that he couldn’t hide from the consequences of his actions, and upon being blocked, reached out to the parents of the friend, who immediately made it clear they believed my child’s claims that he was abused and were extremely hostile, and then hung up on him and stopped returning texts and phone calls. My husband reported him as a runaway to police, and police went to their address and said my stepson was refusing to return and there wasn’t anything they could do. They told us we could file charges against these parents for “interference with custody”, which we did first thing Monday morning, but we were told it could be a month before we got a court date. We called his school and told them he was legally listed as a runaway and to contact us immediately if he showed up. On Saturday we had gotten a notice that due to my stepson's claim that my husband was the aggressor, CPS was coming to our house on Tuesday to investigate him, and on Monday, the caseworker contacted us to move the meeting to her office because my stepson was refusing to cooperate unless this friend's parent was there and she wanted him to participate willingly. We agreed. At 6pm Monday, we got a call from our local hospital to inform us our child was there. Apparently, he was sent to the hospital from the school due to a behavioral outburst. The school never contacted us because they were notified about the CPS case and were "concerned there were safety issues at home". According to the hospital social worker, this friend’s parent showed up at the ER, claimed to be his caregiver, and when it was discovered that she was not, claimed she **would be getting custody of him at any moment**. (This is someone my child has interacted with maybe half a dozen times over a period of years). She was asked to leave, stated she was going to the lobby, and then somehow \*snuck back into his room\*, had to be asked to leave again, and was barred from coming back to the hospital or contacting him. All of this is thankfully documented in his chart online. Because he was now in the hospital, the meeting with the CPS caseworker was moved back to our home. As the caseworker was arriving, she received a call from her office that someone was there waiting to meet with her. It was \*this friend's parent\*. The caseworker was taken aback and clarified with her that she was only notified about the meeting for the purpose of delivering my stepson and now that he was no longer with her her participation was unnecessary. After her interview with us in which we shared a detailed account of his mental health history, the caseworker stated she had no concerns about my husband and she would let the hospital know it was okay to discharge him into our care until we can discuss next steps (which will likely involve a referral to residential care), but that she had to let us know that when she interviewed my stepson at the hospital, he told her that as soon as he was discharged he planned to run away to be with this friend's parent. At about the same time, the hospital called to clarify with my husband whether my stepson was allowed to speak with this person, because they apparently tried to tell staff that he had told him it was okay. We expressed our concerns with the hospital and they agreed to hold him another night to allow us to try to get some safety precautions in place. We are absolutely shocked and thoroughly disgusted and honestly beyond disbelief. I can understand feeling protective over a child who has told you they've been abused, but this goes far beyond that into completely unhinged territory. We want to try to file an order of protection against this person on behalf of our child so that if she cannot legally contact him again, but it is difficult for me to determine from just googling what kind of order to file because there are multiple types. What would apply here? Other than the custodial interference, are there any other charges a lawyer could help us file, particularly for this person claiming at the ER to be my child's caregiver? If they were actually delusional enough to try to file a motion for emergency custody (they told my stepson there was an emergency custody hearing today, the CPS caseworker confirmed that nothing to that affect has been filed), would they have \*any\* chance of winning that? Please tell me what book I can throw at this person and how to be certain that if my stepson does happen to try to run away again to her house, there are serious consequences for her. TLDR: my child with significant behavior problems ran away to a friend's parent's house, this friend's parent showed up at the ER with them and falsely claimed to be his caregiver, stated she was going to get custody of him, and tried to involve herself in our CPS investigation. How do I keep her away from my kid/make sure she faces consequences for this? | ituuos3 | itujjyg | 1,666,793,204 | 1,666,787,978 | 120 | 71 | Not a lawyer, foster mom of 7 years: I don’t think you mentioned what state you’re in, but I know that you can file an “order of protection” with the county clerk without a lawyer in some states. I’d call your local one and see if that’s an option where you are. Basically it would get you in front of a judge where you can state your case and they can order the other parent to stay away from you and your son. I’m sorry you’re going through this. It’s HARD when their mental illness is manifesting in such self destructive ways. | Not a lawyer. In my experience you can file for an order of protection without an attorney I would go to the courthouse and file, they can assist you with it. I would think the attempts to mislead the hospital and repeatedly return once told not to, and it being documented (take a print out of the record!) would be enough for an emergency order. Then they would schedule a hearing a few weeks out for at permanent order. You would then have time to retain counsel if you felt it was needed. | 1 | 5,226 | 1.690141 |
ydm84p | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Adult harboring my runaway child falsely claimed to be their caregiver at the ER. We are in Ohio. I apologize in advance for the length of this post. This story is insane and I am still in complete shock. This past Thursday my extremely troubled teenager (14) assaulted my husband when confronted about a stolen vape pen and then fled to the home of a friend. Police were contacted and he told them my husband assaulted him. No charges were filed against either of them because their stories conflicted and they both had injuries (my husband scratches on his neck from where my stepson grabbed his throat and dug in his nails, my stepson bruises from where my husband pushed him to the ground to get him to let go.) We allowed him to stay the night at this friend’s house to cool off, and he texted that he’d be returning in the morning. The next morning he texted my husband that he hated him, that he was not coming back, and accused my husband of “strangling” him. My husband told him that they both knew that wasn’t what happened, that they needed to discuss his behavior and what our next steps were going to be, and that he couldn’t hide from the consequences of his actions, and upon being blocked, reached out to the parents of the friend, who immediately made it clear they believed my child’s claims that he was abused and were extremely hostile, and then hung up on him and stopped returning texts and phone calls. My husband reported him as a runaway to police, and police went to their address and said my stepson was refusing to return and there wasn’t anything they could do. They told us we could file charges against these parents for “interference with custody”, which we did first thing Monday morning, but we were told it could be a month before we got a court date. We called his school and told them he was legally listed as a runaway and to contact us immediately if he showed up. On Saturday we had gotten a notice that due to my stepson's claim that my husband was the aggressor, CPS was coming to our house on Tuesday to investigate him, and on Monday, the caseworker contacted us to move the meeting to her office because my stepson was refusing to cooperate unless this friend's parent was there and she wanted him to participate willingly. We agreed. At 6pm Monday, we got a call from our local hospital to inform us our child was there. Apparently, he was sent to the hospital from the school due to a behavioral outburst. The school never contacted us because they were notified about the CPS case and were "concerned there were safety issues at home". According to the hospital social worker, this friend’s parent showed up at the ER, claimed to be his caregiver, and when it was discovered that she was not, claimed she **would be getting custody of him at any moment**. (This is someone my child has interacted with maybe half a dozen times over a period of years). She was asked to leave, stated she was going to the lobby, and then somehow \*snuck back into his room\*, had to be asked to leave again, and was barred from coming back to the hospital or contacting him. All of this is thankfully documented in his chart online. Because he was now in the hospital, the meeting with the CPS caseworker was moved back to our home. As the caseworker was arriving, she received a call from her office that someone was there waiting to meet with her. It was \*this friend's parent\*. The caseworker was taken aback and clarified with her that she was only notified about the meeting for the purpose of delivering my stepson and now that he was no longer with her her participation was unnecessary. After her interview with us in which we shared a detailed account of his mental health history, the caseworker stated she had no concerns about my husband and she would let the hospital know it was okay to discharge him into our care until we can discuss next steps (which will likely involve a referral to residential care), but that she had to let us know that when she interviewed my stepson at the hospital, he told her that as soon as he was discharged he planned to run away to be with this friend's parent. At about the same time, the hospital called to clarify with my husband whether my stepson was allowed to speak with this person, because they apparently tried to tell staff that he had told him it was okay. We expressed our concerns with the hospital and they agreed to hold him another night to allow us to try to get some safety precautions in place. We are absolutely shocked and thoroughly disgusted and honestly beyond disbelief. I can understand feeling protective over a child who has told you they've been abused, but this goes far beyond that into completely unhinged territory. We want to try to file an order of protection against this person on behalf of our child so that if she cannot legally contact him again, but it is difficult for me to determine from just googling what kind of order to file because there are multiple types. What would apply here? Other than the custodial interference, are there any other charges a lawyer could help us file, particularly for this person claiming at the ER to be my child's caregiver? If they were actually delusional enough to try to file a motion for emergency custody (they told my stepson there was an emergency custody hearing today, the CPS caseworker confirmed that nothing to that affect has been filed), would they have \*any\* chance of winning that? Please tell me what book I can throw at this person and how to be certain that if my stepson does happen to try to run away again to her house, there are serious consequences for her. TLDR: my child with significant behavior problems ran away to a friend's parent's house, this friend's parent showed up at the ER with them and falsely claimed to be his caregiver, stated she was going to get custody of him, and tried to involve herself in our CPS investigation. How do I keep her away from my kid/make sure she faces consequences for this? | ituuos3 | itulp6t | 1,666,793,204 | 1,666,789,074 | 120 | 34 | Not a lawyer, foster mom of 7 years: I don’t think you mentioned what state you’re in, but I know that you can file an “order of protection” with the county clerk without a lawyer in some states. I’d call your local one and see if that’s an option where you are. Basically it would get you in front of a judge where you can state your case and they can order the other parent to stay away from you and your son. I’m sorry you’re going through this. It’s HARD when their mental illness is manifesting in such self destructive ways. | Not a lawyer, but maybe discuss your concerns with your CPS caseworker. They may have a list of lawyers that can be accessed for lower rates or other legal resources. CPS should be there to protect your child and it sounds like your worker is also concerned about this adult's actions. | 1 | 4,130 | 3.529412 |
ydm84p | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Adult harboring my runaway child falsely claimed to be their caregiver at the ER. We are in Ohio. I apologize in advance for the length of this post. This story is insane and I am still in complete shock. This past Thursday my extremely troubled teenager (14) assaulted my husband when confronted about a stolen vape pen and then fled to the home of a friend. Police were contacted and he told them my husband assaulted him. No charges were filed against either of them because their stories conflicted and they both had injuries (my husband scratches on his neck from where my stepson grabbed his throat and dug in his nails, my stepson bruises from where my husband pushed him to the ground to get him to let go.) We allowed him to stay the night at this friend’s house to cool off, and he texted that he’d be returning in the morning. The next morning he texted my husband that he hated him, that he was not coming back, and accused my husband of “strangling” him. My husband told him that they both knew that wasn’t what happened, that they needed to discuss his behavior and what our next steps were going to be, and that he couldn’t hide from the consequences of his actions, and upon being blocked, reached out to the parents of the friend, who immediately made it clear they believed my child’s claims that he was abused and were extremely hostile, and then hung up on him and stopped returning texts and phone calls. My husband reported him as a runaway to police, and police went to their address and said my stepson was refusing to return and there wasn’t anything they could do. They told us we could file charges against these parents for “interference with custody”, which we did first thing Monday morning, but we were told it could be a month before we got a court date. We called his school and told them he was legally listed as a runaway and to contact us immediately if he showed up. On Saturday we had gotten a notice that due to my stepson's claim that my husband was the aggressor, CPS was coming to our house on Tuesday to investigate him, and on Monday, the caseworker contacted us to move the meeting to her office because my stepson was refusing to cooperate unless this friend's parent was there and she wanted him to participate willingly. We agreed. At 6pm Monday, we got a call from our local hospital to inform us our child was there. Apparently, he was sent to the hospital from the school due to a behavioral outburst. The school never contacted us because they were notified about the CPS case and were "concerned there were safety issues at home". According to the hospital social worker, this friend’s parent showed up at the ER, claimed to be his caregiver, and when it was discovered that she was not, claimed she **would be getting custody of him at any moment**. (This is someone my child has interacted with maybe half a dozen times over a period of years). She was asked to leave, stated she was going to the lobby, and then somehow \*snuck back into his room\*, had to be asked to leave again, and was barred from coming back to the hospital or contacting him. All of this is thankfully documented in his chart online. Because he was now in the hospital, the meeting with the CPS caseworker was moved back to our home. As the caseworker was arriving, she received a call from her office that someone was there waiting to meet with her. It was \*this friend's parent\*. The caseworker was taken aback and clarified with her that she was only notified about the meeting for the purpose of delivering my stepson and now that he was no longer with her her participation was unnecessary. After her interview with us in which we shared a detailed account of his mental health history, the caseworker stated she had no concerns about my husband and she would let the hospital know it was okay to discharge him into our care until we can discuss next steps (which will likely involve a referral to residential care), but that she had to let us know that when she interviewed my stepson at the hospital, he told her that as soon as he was discharged he planned to run away to be with this friend's parent. At about the same time, the hospital called to clarify with my husband whether my stepson was allowed to speak with this person, because they apparently tried to tell staff that he had told him it was okay. We expressed our concerns with the hospital and they agreed to hold him another night to allow us to try to get some safety precautions in place. We are absolutely shocked and thoroughly disgusted and honestly beyond disbelief. I can understand feeling protective over a child who has told you they've been abused, but this goes far beyond that into completely unhinged territory. We want to try to file an order of protection against this person on behalf of our child so that if she cannot legally contact him again, but it is difficult for me to determine from just googling what kind of order to file because there are multiple types. What would apply here? Other than the custodial interference, are there any other charges a lawyer could help us file, particularly for this person claiming at the ER to be my child's caregiver? If they were actually delusional enough to try to file a motion for emergency custody (they told my stepson there was an emergency custody hearing today, the CPS caseworker confirmed that nothing to that affect has been filed), would they have \*any\* chance of winning that? Please tell me what book I can throw at this person and how to be certain that if my stepson does happen to try to run away again to her house, there are serious consequences for her. TLDR: my child with significant behavior problems ran away to a friend's parent's house, this friend's parent showed up at the ER with them and falsely claimed to be his caregiver, stated she was going to get custody of him, and tried to involve herself in our CPS investigation. How do I keep her away from my kid/make sure she faces consequences for this? | ituuos3 | iturw4w | 1,666,793,204 | 1,666,791,996 | 120 | 28 | Not a lawyer, foster mom of 7 years: I don’t think you mentioned what state you’re in, but I know that you can file an “order of protection” with the county clerk without a lawyer in some states. I’d call your local one and see if that’s an option where you are. Basically it would get you in front of a judge where you can state your case and they can order the other parent to stay away from you and your son. I’m sorry you’re going through this. It’s HARD when their mental illness is manifesting in such self destructive ways. | You should probably get a family law attorney who also has experience with CPS/DCS. I also might be careful about what parts of this you put on social media, and there are some red flags here that could make going for a full-out confrontation, like a Protective Order, a bad idea. It isn't clear who the vape pen was stolen from. If it was your husband's, and there was a confrontation that ended in a physical altercation that left visible injuries on your stepson, your husband probably committed Ohio's version of domestic battery. Granted, he might have the affirmative defense of self-defense, but what you've described is something that could bring criminal liability, and a jury will look at the comparative size of your husband and the stepson. If there is any other history of physical abuse, especially anything that might have documentation, or if the school has had other reasons in the past to believe that there might be physical altercations at home, going to court could backfire, because everything will come out. Quite possibly, with your stepson, it will be in camera (in private with the judge). I'd consider getting the advice of an attorney, weighing the risks and benefits very carefully. Additionally, I'm not sure what the extent is of your stepson's mental health issues, but unless they are very severe (like, schizophrenia or some other severe condition), the facts on the ground is that he'll be 18 in a few years. At age 14, courts in most states start heavily weighing their preferences for custody. And courts weigh those preferences more heavily the closer the kid gets to 18. The amount of control you will have over the kid will decrease as they get older, and will disappear when they turn 18. You might consider ways to approach your stepson that don't rely on heavy-handed tactics, because the efficacy of that approach will dwindle, and it might be counterproductive in the long-term once they hit 18. | 1 | 1,208 | 4.285714 |
4bsxly | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | What can I do to make my neighbor stop falsely telling people I'm a pedophile? For a bit of background I'm in Nova Scotia, 28 years old and married to my wife who is 24 years old. She is very petite and has a face that makes her look young but she is certainly 24. I looked online and the best description I can give is that she looks a bit like Miranda Cosgrove except younger looking. Basically what happened is that I moved to my best-friend's hometown to open a business that they needed with him. We have just started and things are looking good except that my neighbour is telling people that I'm a pedophile. This has resulted in me having to show my wife's ID to some customers so they know I'm not some sort of pervert. I had a client tell me that the person who told him I was a pedophile was my neighbour (he gave her name). I'm also sure it's her because I leave for work at 6 am which is the same time my wife goes out for a run, and we always kiss goodbye as I get in my truck. The only other person up at that time is my next door neighbour who walks her dogs then. She never says hello and gives us nasty looks which I never understood until the rumors started. This is something that is a huge issue for me because where I live is small enough for people to know each other and if I get known as a pedophile our business will be done. I haven't ever been in trouble with the law and when me and my wife tried to show the neighbour her ID and explain she wouldn't answer the door. I brought this to the attention to the local police who talked to her but I'm still getting people looking at me with anger and our business is losing customers. Whenever I do talk to someone who seems angry with me and prove to them that I'm not who they think I am they keep either telling me that the neighbour told them or that they heard it from someone else. The police have been nice enough to keep going back to her place but I don't know what else I can do. I wanted to go to a lawyer but if she is willing to ignore what the cops say would she really listen to a letter from a lawyer? I'm at the point where I'm just wondering if I should sue her for slander. What else can I do? She won't talk to me and she won't listen to the cops. Can I, or should I sue? What should I do at this point? | d1c53ox | d1c4cm2 | 1,458,847,175 | 1,458,846,146 | 1,382 | 273 | Sue for defamation. | I'd send her a cease and desist to stop spreading false allegations about you. That may shut her up. | 1 | 1,029 | 5.062271 |
4bsxly | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | What can I do to make my neighbor stop falsely telling people I'm a pedophile? For a bit of background I'm in Nova Scotia, 28 years old and married to my wife who is 24 years old. She is very petite and has a face that makes her look young but she is certainly 24. I looked online and the best description I can give is that she looks a bit like Miranda Cosgrove except younger looking. Basically what happened is that I moved to my best-friend's hometown to open a business that they needed with him. We have just started and things are looking good except that my neighbour is telling people that I'm a pedophile. This has resulted in me having to show my wife's ID to some customers so they know I'm not some sort of pervert. I had a client tell me that the person who told him I was a pedophile was my neighbour (he gave her name). I'm also sure it's her because I leave for work at 6 am which is the same time my wife goes out for a run, and we always kiss goodbye as I get in my truck. The only other person up at that time is my next door neighbour who walks her dogs then. She never says hello and gives us nasty looks which I never understood until the rumors started. This is something that is a huge issue for me because where I live is small enough for people to know each other and if I get known as a pedophile our business will be done. I haven't ever been in trouble with the law and when me and my wife tried to show the neighbour her ID and explain she wouldn't answer the door. I brought this to the attention to the local police who talked to her but I'm still getting people looking at me with anger and our business is losing customers. Whenever I do talk to someone who seems angry with me and prove to them that I'm not who they think I am they keep either telling me that the neighbour told them or that they heard it from someone else. The police have been nice enough to keep going back to her place but I don't know what else I can do. I wanted to go to a lawyer but if she is willing to ignore what the cops say would she really listen to a letter from a lawyer? I'm at the point where I'm just wondering if I should sue her for slander. What else can I do? She won't talk to me and she won't listen to the cops. Can I, or should I sue? What should I do at this point? | d1c4i6g | d1c53ox | 1,458,846,360 | 1,458,847,175 | 142 | 1,382 | Ianal, but if your losing business over these false accusations I believe you can sue for defamation of character. Weather you can sue in small claims or have to get a lawyer would depend on how much revenue you have lost, though it is advisable to speak to a lawyer anyway. | Sue for defamation. | 0 | 815 | 9.732394 |
4bsxly | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | What can I do to make my neighbor stop falsely telling people I'm a pedophile? For a bit of background I'm in Nova Scotia, 28 years old and married to my wife who is 24 years old. She is very petite and has a face that makes her look young but she is certainly 24. I looked online and the best description I can give is that she looks a bit like Miranda Cosgrove except younger looking. Basically what happened is that I moved to my best-friend's hometown to open a business that they needed with him. We have just started and things are looking good except that my neighbour is telling people that I'm a pedophile. This has resulted in me having to show my wife's ID to some customers so they know I'm not some sort of pervert. I had a client tell me that the person who told him I was a pedophile was my neighbour (he gave her name). I'm also sure it's her because I leave for work at 6 am which is the same time my wife goes out for a run, and we always kiss goodbye as I get in my truck. The only other person up at that time is my next door neighbour who walks her dogs then. She never says hello and gives us nasty looks which I never understood until the rumors started. This is something that is a huge issue for me because where I live is small enough for people to know each other and if I get known as a pedophile our business will be done. I haven't ever been in trouble with the law and when me and my wife tried to show the neighbour her ID and explain she wouldn't answer the door. I brought this to the attention to the local police who talked to her but I'm still getting people looking at me with anger and our business is losing customers. Whenever I do talk to someone who seems angry with me and prove to them that I'm not who they think I am they keep either telling me that the neighbour told them or that they heard it from someone else. The police have been nice enough to keep going back to her place but I don't know what else I can do. I wanted to go to a lawyer but if she is willing to ignore what the cops say would she really listen to a letter from a lawyer? I'm at the point where I'm just wondering if I should sue her for slander. What else can I do? She won't talk to me and she won't listen to the cops. Can I, or should I sue? What should I do at this point? | d1c9gtd | d1c4cm2 | 1,458,853,073 | 1,458,846,146 | 402 | 273 | Ouch, small town Nova Scotia. It might already be too late. I would honestly go full out on this. You tried small steps and they didn't work. Normally you have to prove damages in a defamation case (and you probably could, with the business and all), but this falls under two categories of defamation per se: accusations of criminal conduct, and accusations of sexual deviancy. So you can win without proving damages. | I'd send her a cease and desist to stop spreading false allegations about you. That may shut her up. | 1 | 6,927 | 1.472527 |
4bsxly | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | What can I do to make my neighbor stop falsely telling people I'm a pedophile? For a bit of background I'm in Nova Scotia, 28 years old and married to my wife who is 24 years old. She is very petite and has a face that makes her look young but she is certainly 24. I looked online and the best description I can give is that she looks a bit like Miranda Cosgrove except younger looking. Basically what happened is that I moved to my best-friend's hometown to open a business that they needed with him. We have just started and things are looking good except that my neighbour is telling people that I'm a pedophile. This has resulted in me having to show my wife's ID to some customers so they know I'm not some sort of pervert. I had a client tell me that the person who told him I was a pedophile was my neighbour (he gave her name). I'm also sure it's her because I leave for work at 6 am which is the same time my wife goes out for a run, and we always kiss goodbye as I get in my truck. The only other person up at that time is my next door neighbour who walks her dogs then. She never says hello and gives us nasty looks which I never understood until the rumors started. This is something that is a huge issue for me because where I live is small enough for people to know each other and if I get known as a pedophile our business will be done. I haven't ever been in trouble with the law and when me and my wife tried to show the neighbour her ID and explain she wouldn't answer the door. I brought this to the attention to the local police who talked to her but I'm still getting people looking at me with anger and our business is losing customers. Whenever I do talk to someone who seems angry with me and prove to them that I'm not who they think I am they keep either telling me that the neighbour told them or that they heard it from someone else. The police have been nice enough to keep going back to her place but I don't know what else I can do. I wanted to go to a lawyer but if she is willing to ignore what the cops say would she really listen to a letter from a lawyer? I'm at the point where I'm just wondering if I should sue her for slander. What else can I do? She won't talk to me and she won't listen to the cops. Can I, or should I sue? What should I do at this point? | d1c4i6g | d1c9gtd | 1,458,846,360 | 1,458,853,073 | 142 | 402 | Ianal, but if your losing business over these false accusations I believe you can sue for defamation of character. Weather you can sue in small claims or have to get a lawyer would depend on how much revenue you have lost, though it is advisable to speak to a lawyer anyway. | Ouch, small town Nova Scotia. It might already be too late. I would honestly go full out on this. You tried small steps and they didn't work. Normally you have to prove damages in a defamation case (and you probably could, with the business and all), but this falls under two categories of defamation per se: accusations of criminal conduct, and accusations of sexual deviancy. So you can win without proving damages. | 0 | 6,713 | 2.830986 |
4bsxly | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | What can I do to make my neighbor stop falsely telling people I'm a pedophile? For a bit of background I'm in Nova Scotia, 28 years old and married to my wife who is 24 years old. She is very petite and has a face that makes her look young but she is certainly 24. I looked online and the best description I can give is that she looks a bit like Miranda Cosgrove except younger looking. Basically what happened is that I moved to my best-friend's hometown to open a business that they needed with him. We have just started and things are looking good except that my neighbour is telling people that I'm a pedophile. This has resulted in me having to show my wife's ID to some customers so they know I'm not some sort of pervert. I had a client tell me that the person who told him I was a pedophile was my neighbour (he gave her name). I'm also sure it's her because I leave for work at 6 am which is the same time my wife goes out for a run, and we always kiss goodbye as I get in my truck. The only other person up at that time is my next door neighbour who walks her dogs then. She never says hello and gives us nasty looks which I never understood until the rumors started. This is something that is a huge issue for me because where I live is small enough for people to know each other and if I get known as a pedophile our business will be done. I haven't ever been in trouble with the law and when me and my wife tried to show the neighbour her ID and explain she wouldn't answer the door. I brought this to the attention to the local police who talked to her but I'm still getting people looking at me with anger and our business is losing customers. Whenever I do talk to someone who seems angry with me and prove to them that I'm not who they think I am they keep either telling me that the neighbour told them or that they heard it from someone else. The police have been nice enough to keep going back to her place but I don't know what else I can do. I wanted to go to a lawyer but if she is willing to ignore what the cops say would she really listen to a letter from a lawyer? I'm at the point where I'm just wondering if I should sue her for slander. What else can I do? She won't talk to me and she won't listen to the cops. Can I, or should I sue? What should I do at this point? | d1c96dj | d1c9gtd | 1,458,852,670 | 1,458,853,073 | 109 | 402 | Do you have a framed wedding photo you could put on the wall behind the register? At the very least it will lower your detractor's credibility. | Ouch, small town Nova Scotia. It might already be too late. I would honestly go full out on this. You tried small steps and they didn't work. Normally you have to prove damages in a defamation case (and you probably could, with the business and all), but this falls under two categories of defamation per se: accusations of criminal conduct, and accusations of sexual deviancy. So you can win without proving damages. | 0 | 403 | 3.688073 |
4bsxly | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | What can I do to make my neighbor stop falsely telling people I'm a pedophile? For a bit of background I'm in Nova Scotia, 28 years old and married to my wife who is 24 years old. She is very petite and has a face that makes her look young but she is certainly 24. I looked online and the best description I can give is that she looks a bit like Miranda Cosgrove except younger looking. Basically what happened is that I moved to my best-friend's hometown to open a business that they needed with him. We have just started and things are looking good except that my neighbour is telling people that I'm a pedophile. This has resulted in me having to show my wife's ID to some customers so they know I'm not some sort of pervert. I had a client tell me that the person who told him I was a pedophile was my neighbour (he gave her name). I'm also sure it's her because I leave for work at 6 am which is the same time my wife goes out for a run, and we always kiss goodbye as I get in my truck. The only other person up at that time is my next door neighbour who walks her dogs then. She never says hello and gives us nasty looks which I never understood until the rumors started. This is something that is a huge issue for me because where I live is small enough for people to know each other and if I get known as a pedophile our business will be done. I haven't ever been in trouble with the law and when me and my wife tried to show the neighbour her ID and explain she wouldn't answer the door. I brought this to the attention to the local police who talked to her but I'm still getting people looking at me with anger and our business is losing customers. Whenever I do talk to someone who seems angry with me and prove to them that I'm not who they think I am they keep either telling me that the neighbour told them or that they heard it from someone else. The police have been nice enough to keep going back to her place but I don't know what else I can do. I wanted to go to a lawyer but if she is willing to ignore what the cops say would she really listen to a letter from a lawyer? I'm at the point where I'm just wondering if I should sue her for slander. What else can I do? She won't talk to me and she won't listen to the cops. Can I, or should I sue? What should I do at this point? | d1c7yk9 | d1c9gtd | 1,458,851,007 | 1,458,853,073 | 70 | 402 | You're in a no win situation. Small towns tend to go by word of mouth. Even if you legally shut up your neighbor, get her to admit she was wrong and pay damages for lost of business/slander/whatever else your attorney can prove, there will always be people who will hear your name and think "pedo!" I hope you take the slanderer to the cleaners when you sue for defamation, but keep in mind the damage has already been done when asking for damages. I'm not saying don't take legal action, just that you are also probably going to have to show the community that you are a good guy and your neighbor is a kook. Can't hurt to have a photo of you and your wife, either wedding or at a bar, to show that you and the "child" are legal adults. | Ouch, small town Nova Scotia. It might already be too late. I would honestly go full out on this. You tried small steps and they didn't work. Normally you have to prove damages in a defamation case (and you probably could, with the business and all), but this falls under two categories of defamation per se: accusations of criminal conduct, and accusations of sexual deviancy. So you can win without proving damages. | 0 | 2,066 | 5.742857 |
4bsxly | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | What can I do to make my neighbor stop falsely telling people I'm a pedophile? For a bit of background I'm in Nova Scotia, 28 years old and married to my wife who is 24 years old. She is very petite and has a face that makes her look young but she is certainly 24. I looked online and the best description I can give is that she looks a bit like Miranda Cosgrove except younger looking. Basically what happened is that I moved to my best-friend's hometown to open a business that they needed with him. We have just started and things are looking good except that my neighbour is telling people that I'm a pedophile. This has resulted in me having to show my wife's ID to some customers so they know I'm not some sort of pervert. I had a client tell me that the person who told him I was a pedophile was my neighbour (he gave her name). I'm also sure it's her because I leave for work at 6 am which is the same time my wife goes out for a run, and we always kiss goodbye as I get in my truck. The only other person up at that time is my next door neighbour who walks her dogs then. She never says hello and gives us nasty looks which I never understood until the rumors started. This is something that is a huge issue for me because where I live is small enough for people to know each other and if I get known as a pedophile our business will be done. I haven't ever been in trouble with the law and when me and my wife tried to show the neighbour her ID and explain she wouldn't answer the door. I brought this to the attention to the local police who talked to her but I'm still getting people looking at me with anger and our business is losing customers. Whenever I do talk to someone who seems angry with me and prove to them that I'm not who they think I am they keep either telling me that the neighbour told them or that they heard it from someone else. The police have been nice enough to keep going back to her place but I don't know what else I can do. I wanted to go to a lawyer but if she is willing to ignore what the cops say would she really listen to a letter from a lawyer? I'm at the point where I'm just wondering if I should sue her for slander. What else can I do? She won't talk to me and she won't listen to the cops. Can I, or should I sue? What should I do at this point? | d1c96dj | d1c7yk9 | 1,458,852,670 | 1,458,851,007 | 109 | 70 | Do you have a framed wedding photo you could put on the wall behind the register? At the very least it will lower your detractor's credibility. | You're in a no win situation. Small towns tend to go by word of mouth. Even if you legally shut up your neighbor, get her to admit she was wrong and pay damages for lost of business/slander/whatever else your attorney can prove, there will always be people who will hear your name and think "pedo!" I hope you take the slanderer to the cleaners when you sue for defamation, but keep in mind the damage has already been done when asking for damages. I'm not saying don't take legal action, just that you are also probably going to have to show the community that you are a good guy and your neighbor is a kook. Can't hurt to have a photo of you and your wife, either wedding or at a bar, to show that you and the "child" are legal adults. | 1 | 1,663 | 1.557143 |
4bsxly | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | What can I do to make my neighbor stop falsely telling people I'm a pedophile? For a bit of background I'm in Nova Scotia, 28 years old and married to my wife who is 24 years old. She is very petite and has a face that makes her look young but she is certainly 24. I looked online and the best description I can give is that she looks a bit like Miranda Cosgrove except younger looking. Basically what happened is that I moved to my best-friend's hometown to open a business that they needed with him. We have just started and things are looking good except that my neighbour is telling people that I'm a pedophile. This has resulted in me having to show my wife's ID to some customers so they know I'm not some sort of pervert. I had a client tell me that the person who told him I was a pedophile was my neighbour (he gave her name). I'm also sure it's her because I leave for work at 6 am which is the same time my wife goes out for a run, and we always kiss goodbye as I get in my truck. The only other person up at that time is my next door neighbour who walks her dogs then. She never says hello and gives us nasty looks which I never understood until the rumors started. This is something that is a huge issue for me because where I live is small enough for people to know each other and if I get known as a pedophile our business will be done. I haven't ever been in trouble with the law and when me and my wife tried to show the neighbour her ID and explain she wouldn't answer the door. I brought this to the attention to the local police who talked to her but I'm still getting people looking at me with anger and our business is losing customers. Whenever I do talk to someone who seems angry with me and prove to them that I'm not who they think I am they keep either telling me that the neighbour told them or that they heard it from someone else. The police have been nice enough to keep going back to her place but I don't know what else I can do. I wanted to go to a lawyer but if she is willing to ignore what the cops say would she really listen to a letter from a lawyer? I'm at the point where I'm just wondering if I should sue her for slander. What else can I do? She won't talk to me and she won't listen to the cops. Can I, or should I sue? What should I do at this point? | d1d3xs1 | d1cynqu | 1,458,920,913 | 1,458,912,022 | 52 | 36 | Your wife is about to turn 25 (well sometime within the next year), that's one of those milestones, take out a full page ad in the local newspaper for your business wishing her a happy 25th birthday and a 25% off incentive for anyone who mentions her birthday when they come in. | Nova Scotian here, grew up in a small town. One thing I haven't seen suggested is to get involved in the community at every opportunity. Look for charity events, sports events, meet as many people as possible. As a bonus, it will help your business. One thing that you may not realize if you didn't grow up in a small town, is that people want to do business with people they know. There are folks who will only buy a car from my dad, even though he's worked at several different dealerships. Once people get to know you and your wife, they'll see you're not a pedophile, and they'll understand if you do sue. Otherwise, it's just some outsider, coming into town and suing poor old Mrs. Fiddlestick who's lived in this town since sliced bread and who does he think he is? That will tank your business quick and your friends reputation. I would talk with your friend about getting involved in the community, getting introduced around (with your wife preferably) and what the implications of a lawsuit will be. One last thought, you may be a private person, but in a small town, people are going to pry, and if you're not open with them, they'll be suspicious. Doesn't mean you have to be an open book, definitely draw clear boundaries, but it might help to find something you can be completely open about and connect with people. For me it's my dog, and everyone loves dogs right? Good luck! | 1 | 8,891 | 1.444444 |
ol6tee | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Given the wrong injection at a clinic Hello! I would like to start off by saying I understand that medical malpractice can be difficult to prove in some cases but this seems fairly cut and dry to me, and I’d appreciate some insight. I’m a 30-something woman in the state of Virginia. I went into a clinic for a routine Pap smear about a month ago. The doctor and I discussed the normal things one discusses at these visits - general health and activities, birth control, pregnancy, etc. I mentioned that I did not want to be on hormonal birth control as it causes issues and that I am sexually active with a partner I trust. I also said that if I get pregnant, I am keeping it. They gave me prenatal vitamins. They also asked me if I’d like to get the HPV vaccine and I said yes. They administered Gardasil via injection and I made another appointment for a booster shot one month later. Fast forward about a week - my pap comes back normal. Fast forward a month and I go to my next vaccine appointment. When I show up, they ask me to pee in a cup. I ask them why and they say for a pregnancy test. I told them I didn’t know I had to take one for a vaccine and that I would have prepared because I just peed. I ask for water and proceed to drink tap water for about 15 minutes until I can give them enough urine for the test. My pregnancy test comes back negative according to the nurse and she administers the injection. I still thought it was odd that I needed a pregnancy test since they didn’t test me on the first visit. Upon leaving the room, I turn around and jokingly say to the nurse “you gave me the HPV vaccine right? Haha” and she laughs and says “haha yeah”. I then proceeded to make my third and last appointment to finish the series of vaccinations at the front desk. I confirmed that I needed my last HPV vaccine two months from now and they made the appointment. I then went home and started working. When I finished work, I checked my phone and I had two voicemails from a doctor at the clinic saying it’s very important that we talk about my visit today. I haven’t been able to reach them after hours so I logged into the patient portal and downloaded my records. It shows that I was injected with Depo-Provera birth control instead of Gardasil. Is this malpractice? I will speak to the doctor soon but is there anything I should avoid here from a legal perspective? Should I consult a lawyer? Is it worth it? Thank you! | h5ciclc | h5fe6r6 | 1,626,399,773 | 1,626,460,410 | 136 | 433 | What damages do you have as a result? If the answer is "Well, none really" then the odds of a successful lawsuit are very slim. You can and should speak to a local attorney though, because medmal is so fact specific that we can't really ever give an accurate answer here. | I don't want to scare you but Depo Provera has many serious side effects for certain women. ( Others can take it with no problem.) If you have any problems, please keep receipts and documentation if you have to see another doctor for any problem. you don't have monetary damages... YET. Not a lawyer Second, even if this is not a medical malpractice case because there are no monetary damages yet, it is still an egregious error and the person who gave you the injection should be reported to the board that governs whatever he r profession is(doctor, nurse, physician assistant, CNA , etc) and sanctioned for this. | 0 | 60,637 | 3.183824 |
dv3k24 | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | Bank refusing to return a large wire transfer which was deposited to the wrong account I wired a large amount of money from my account to a family member's account (the intended account is also part of the same large US bank so it's effectively an internal transfer). I used the wrong account number but the correct family member's name. The wire was deposited to the (wrong) account and this beneficiary has refused to return it when the bank requested my money back. The bank says I have no recourse and they won't divulge the details of the beneficiary they say that's protected information. I don't know if there is anything I can do in this position? Pretty desperate. | f7aj5qj | f7ak70g | 1,573,530,627 | 1,573,531,396 | 10 | 76 | Talk to a lawyer | Unfortunately the only thing available is to get a lawyer and get the money back through legal means, as the bank said, fedwire or wire transactions (not sure if this was internally routed or if it went through fedwire) cannot be reversed without the recipients consent and unfortunately they most likely have a policy stopping then from giving you their info. | 0 | 769 | 7.6 |
dv3k24 | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | Bank refusing to return a large wire transfer which was deposited to the wrong account I wired a large amount of money from my account to a family member's account (the intended account is also part of the same large US bank so it's effectively an internal transfer). I used the wrong account number but the correct family member's name. The wire was deposited to the (wrong) account and this beneficiary has refused to return it when the bank requested my money back. The bank says I have no recourse and they won't divulge the details of the beneficiary they say that's protected information. I don't know if there is anything I can do in this position? Pretty desperate. | f7ad5gc | f7ak70g | 1,573,526,316 | 1,573,531,396 | 2 | 76 | ---
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dv3k24 | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | Bank refusing to return a large wire transfer which was deposited to the wrong account I wired a large amount of money from my account to a family member's account (the intended account is also part of the same large US bank so it's effectively an internal transfer). I used the wrong account number but the correct family member's name. The wire was deposited to the (wrong) account and this beneficiary has refused to return it when the bank requested my money back. The bank says I have no recourse and they won't divulge the details of the beneficiary they say that's protected information. I don't know if there is anything I can do in this position? Pretty desperate. | f7b6uva | f7azqh9 | 1,573,558,761 | 1,573,547,782 | 28 | 15 | Wires are a one way deal, which is why banks have very strict dual controls on them being initiated and sent. If the bank sent it to the wrong place, that's their loss. If you used the wrong account number, the blame falls on you, unfortunately. | There isn't much you can do. If the amount is high enough, you can subpoena the bank to provide the beneficiary's information and then sue them. | 1 | 10,979 | 1.866667 |
dv3k24 | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | Bank refusing to return a large wire transfer which was deposited to the wrong account I wired a large amount of money from my account to a family member's account (the intended account is also part of the same large US bank so it's effectively an internal transfer). I used the wrong account number but the correct family member's name. The wire was deposited to the (wrong) account and this beneficiary has refused to return it when the bank requested my money back. The bank says I have no recourse and they won't divulge the details of the beneficiary they say that's protected information. I don't know if there is anything I can do in this position? Pretty desperate. | f7b6uva | f7aj5qj | 1,573,558,761 | 1,573,530,627 | 28 | 10 | Wires are a one way deal, which is why banks have very strict dual controls on them being initiated and sent. If the bank sent it to the wrong place, that's their loss. If you used the wrong account number, the blame falls on you, unfortunately. | Talk to a lawyer | 1 | 28,134 | 2.8 |
dv3k24 | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | Bank refusing to return a large wire transfer which was deposited to the wrong account I wired a large amount of money from my account to a family member's account (the intended account is also part of the same large US bank so it's effectively an internal transfer). I used the wrong account number but the correct family member's name. The wire was deposited to the (wrong) account and this beneficiary has refused to return it when the bank requested my money back. The bank says I have no recourse and they won't divulge the details of the beneficiary they say that's protected information. I don't know if there is anything I can do in this position? Pretty desperate. | f7b6uva | f7ad5gc | 1,573,558,761 | 1,573,526,316 | 28 | 2 | Wires are a one way deal, which is why banks have very strict dual controls on them being initiated and sent. If the bank sent it to the wrong place, that's their loss. If you used the wrong account number, the blame falls on you, unfortunately. | ---
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dv3k24 | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | Bank refusing to return a large wire transfer which was deposited to the wrong account I wired a large amount of money from my account to a family member's account (the intended account is also part of the same large US bank so it's effectively an internal transfer). I used the wrong account number but the correct family member's name. The wire was deposited to the (wrong) account and this beneficiary has refused to return it when the bank requested my money back. The bank says I have no recourse and they won't divulge the details of the beneficiary they say that's protected information. I don't know if there is anything I can do in this position? Pretty desperate. | f7aj5qj | f7azqh9 | 1,573,530,627 | 1,573,547,782 | 10 | 15 | Talk to a lawyer | There isn't much you can do. If the amount is high enough, you can subpoena the bank to provide the beneficiary's information and then sue them. | 0 | 17,155 | 1.5 |
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dv3k24 | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | Bank refusing to return a large wire transfer which was deposited to the wrong account I wired a large amount of money from my account to a family member's account (the intended account is also part of the same large US bank so it's effectively an internal transfer). I used the wrong account number but the correct family member's name. The wire was deposited to the (wrong) account and this beneficiary has refused to return it when the bank requested my money back. The bank says I have no recourse and they won't divulge the details of the beneficiary they say that's protected information. I don't know if there is anything I can do in this position? Pretty desperate. | f7c1199 | f7bmza6 | 1,573,582,047 | 1,573,572,989 | 10 | 5 | The bank isn’t exactly refusing. They legally don’t have the right to take money from the beneficiary, nor do they have the right to reveal the beneficiary’s info to you. They can’t just swipe this money from some account and give it to you. This is the differences between checks and wire transfers. Checks put the responsibility on the bank to only give money to the correct party. Wire transfers put the responsibility on the bank to give the money to the right numbers - and they did that. Also when depositing a check you agree it is conditional on various things being correct and the bank can undo the deposit if not. Wire transfers are like depositing cash. The bank can’t just take a cash deposit from an account because a third party says it was wrong. | This doesn't help, I know, but why would a bank have you do a wire transfer internally instead of an ACH? | 1 | 9,058 | 2 |
dv3k24 | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | Bank refusing to return a large wire transfer which was deposited to the wrong account I wired a large amount of money from my account to a family member's account (the intended account is also part of the same large US bank so it's effectively an internal transfer). I used the wrong account number but the correct family member's name. The wire was deposited to the (wrong) account and this beneficiary has refused to return it when the bank requested my money back. The bank says I have no recourse and they won't divulge the details of the beneficiary they say that's protected information. I don't know if there is anything I can do in this position? Pretty desperate. | f7c1199 | f7ad5gc | 1,573,582,047 | 1,573,526,316 | 10 | 2 | The bank isn’t exactly refusing. They legally don’t have the right to take money from the beneficiary, nor do they have the right to reveal the beneficiary’s info to you. They can’t just swipe this money from some account and give it to you. This is the differences between checks and wire transfers. Checks put the responsibility on the bank to only give money to the correct party. Wire transfers put the responsibility on the bank to give the money to the right numbers - and they did that. Also when depositing a check you agree it is conditional on various things being correct and the bank can undo the deposit if not. Wire transfers are like depositing cash. The bank can’t just take a cash deposit from an account because a third party says it was wrong. | ---
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xpppug | legaladvice_train | 0.89 | Fertility Dr. is charging us for her own mistake. (U.S.) My wife and I are doing invitro fertilization in the U.S. with a fertility doctor. In January 2022, the Dr. told my wife she has a mis-shaped uterus and recommended a surgery to correct it. This surgery was not required, the Dr. said, but recommended because the shape of my wife's uterus could cause complications in child birth. My wife had the surgery done in Feb. 2022, performed by the fertility Dr. Fast forward nine months later to today. We have spent an additional \~$20k on the IVF process. It came time to implant the embryos and the Dr. just informed us that the surgery she performed correcting the shape of my wife's uterus didn't completely fix it and she needs to do it again. She now wants to charge us to do the surgery again is not willing to move forward with the IVF process until it is done. The Dr. wants to do the surgery at a surgery center where we would have to pay cash. The surgery would not be covered by insurance at this surgery center. We keep trying to get the surgery scheduled at a hospital so insurance will cover it, but the Dr. is making that difficult. She really wants to do it at this surgery center where we will have to pay cash. In my opinion, the Dr. should do the surgery for free. We already paid to have it done once, she didn't do it correctly, and now we're being held in a position where the $20k we've spent so far goes to nothing if we don't pay the Dr. again to do the surgery. Do I have any recourse here? | iq593k8 | iq59vlz | 1,664,308,107 | 1,664,308,404 | 3 | 447 | This may be a better question for /r/healthinsurance | It's possible the malformation was something a single surgery couldn't fix. It's also possible she messed up, in which case that's beyond the scope of this sub. One of the first things you should do is get another surgeon to review it and give a second opinion. | 0 | 297 | 149 |
xpppug | legaladvice_train | 0.89 | Fertility Dr. is charging us for her own mistake. (U.S.) My wife and I are doing invitro fertilization in the U.S. with a fertility doctor. In January 2022, the Dr. told my wife she has a mis-shaped uterus and recommended a surgery to correct it. This surgery was not required, the Dr. said, but recommended because the shape of my wife's uterus could cause complications in child birth. My wife had the surgery done in Feb. 2022, performed by the fertility Dr. Fast forward nine months later to today. We have spent an additional \~$20k on the IVF process. It came time to implant the embryos and the Dr. just informed us that the surgery she performed correcting the shape of my wife's uterus didn't completely fix it and she needs to do it again. She now wants to charge us to do the surgery again is not willing to move forward with the IVF process until it is done. The Dr. wants to do the surgery at a surgery center where we would have to pay cash. The surgery would not be covered by insurance at this surgery center. We keep trying to get the surgery scheduled at a hospital so insurance will cover it, but the Dr. is making that difficult. She really wants to do it at this surgery center where we will have to pay cash. In my opinion, the Dr. should do the surgery for free. We already paid to have it done once, she didn't do it correctly, and now we're being held in a position where the $20k we've spent so far goes to nothing if we don't pay the Dr. again to do the surgery. Do I have any recourse here? | iq632q6 | iq6ahxk | 1,664,320,464 | 1,664,323,919 | 141 | 155 | A second surgery being required is not necessarily an indication that a mistake was made during the first surgery. You should get a second opinion, and you should request a copy of your medical records for the new surgeon to review. | Please seek a second opinion | 0 | 3,455 | 1.099291 |
xpppug | legaladvice_train | 0.89 | Fertility Dr. is charging us for her own mistake. (U.S.) My wife and I are doing invitro fertilization in the U.S. with a fertility doctor. In January 2022, the Dr. told my wife she has a mis-shaped uterus and recommended a surgery to correct it. This surgery was not required, the Dr. said, but recommended because the shape of my wife's uterus could cause complications in child birth. My wife had the surgery done in Feb. 2022, performed by the fertility Dr. Fast forward nine months later to today. We have spent an additional \~$20k on the IVF process. It came time to implant the embryos and the Dr. just informed us that the surgery she performed correcting the shape of my wife's uterus didn't completely fix it and she needs to do it again. She now wants to charge us to do the surgery again is not willing to move forward with the IVF process until it is done. The Dr. wants to do the surgery at a surgery center where we would have to pay cash. The surgery would not be covered by insurance at this surgery center. We keep trying to get the surgery scheduled at a hospital so insurance will cover it, but the Dr. is making that difficult. She really wants to do it at this surgery center where we will have to pay cash. In my opinion, the Dr. should do the surgery for free. We already paid to have it done once, she didn't do it correctly, and now we're being held in a position where the $20k we've spent so far goes to nothing if we don't pay the Dr. again to do the surgery. Do I have any recourse here? | iq593k8 | iq6ahxk | 1,664,308,107 | 1,664,323,919 | 3 | 155 | This may be a better question for /r/healthinsurance | Please seek a second opinion | 0 | 15,812 | 51.666667 |
xpppug | legaladvice_train | 0.89 | Fertility Dr. is charging us for her own mistake. (U.S.) My wife and I are doing invitro fertilization in the U.S. with a fertility doctor. In January 2022, the Dr. told my wife she has a mis-shaped uterus and recommended a surgery to correct it. This surgery was not required, the Dr. said, but recommended because the shape of my wife's uterus could cause complications in child birth. My wife had the surgery done in Feb. 2022, performed by the fertility Dr. Fast forward nine months later to today. We have spent an additional \~$20k on the IVF process. It came time to implant the embryos and the Dr. just informed us that the surgery she performed correcting the shape of my wife's uterus didn't completely fix it and she needs to do it again. She now wants to charge us to do the surgery again is not willing to move forward with the IVF process until it is done. The Dr. wants to do the surgery at a surgery center where we would have to pay cash. The surgery would not be covered by insurance at this surgery center. We keep trying to get the surgery scheduled at a hospital so insurance will cover it, but the Dr. is making that difficult. She really wants to do it at this surgery center where we will have to pay cash. In my opinion, the Dr. should do the surgery for free. We already paid to have it done once, she didn't do it correctly, and now we're being held in a position where the $20k we've spent so far goes to nothing if we don't pay the Dr. again to do the surgery. Do I have any recourse here? | iq593k8 | iq632q6 | 1,664,308,107 | 1,664,320,464 | 3 | 141 | This may be a better question for /r/healthinsurance | A second surgery being required is not necessarily an indication that a mistake was made during the first surgery. You should get a second opinion, and you should request a copy of your medical records for the new surgeon to review. | 0 | 12,357 | 47 |
xpppug | legaladvice_train | 0.89 | Fertility Dr. is charging us for her own mistake. (U.S.) My wife and I are doing invitro fertilization in the U.S. with a fertility doctor. In January 2022, the Dr. told my wife she has a mis-shaped uterus and recommended a surgery to correct it. This surgery was not required, the Dr. said, but recommended because the shape of my wife's uterus could cause complications in child birth. My wife had the surgery done in Feb. 2022, performed by the fertility Dr. Fast forward nine months later to today. We have spent an additional \~$20k on the IVF process. It came time to implant the embryos and the Dr. just informed us that the surgery she performed correcting the shape of my wife's uterus didn't completely fix it and she needs to do it again. She now wants to charge us to do the surgery again is not willing to move forward with the IVF process until it is done. The Dr. wants to do the surgery at a surgery center where we would have to pay cash. The surgery would not be covered by insurance at this surgery center. We keep trying to get the surgery scheduled at a hospital so insurance will cover it, but the Dr. is making that difficult. She really wants to do it at this surgery center where we will have to pay cash. In my opinion, the Dr. should do the surgery for free. We already paid to have it done once, she didn't do it correctly, and now we're being held in a position where the $20k we've spent so far goes to nothing if we don't pay the Dr. again to do the surgery. Do I have any recourse here? | iq6ginb | iq593k8 | 1,664,326,765 | 1,664,308,107 | 109 | 3 | Do you have any reason to believe that the doctor "didn't do it correctly" other than that it wasn't successful? All surgeries entail risk, and it's possible for a doctor to do everything "correct" but for the surgery to fail to bring the intended result. In that case, you paid for *the surgery*, not the intended result, so you wouldn't be entitled to her doing "the surgery for free". | This may be a better question for /r/healthinsurance | 1 | 18,658 | 36.333333 |
xpppug | legaladvice_train | 0.89 | Fertility Dr. is charging us for her own mistake. (U.S.) My wife and I are doing invitro fertilization in the U.S. with a fertility doctor. In January 2022, the Dr. told my wife she has a mis-shaped uterus and recommended a surgery to correct it. This surgery was not required, the Dr. said, but recommended because the shape of my wife's uterus could cause complications in child birth. My wife had the surgery done in Feb. 2022, performed by the fertility Dr. Fast forward nine months later to today. We have spent an additional \~$20k on the IVF process. It came time to implant the embryos and the Dr. just informed us that the surgery she performed correcting the shape of my wife's uterus didn't completely fix it and she needs to do it again. She now wants to charge us to do the surgery again is not willing to move forward with the IVF process until it is done. The Dr. wants to do the surgery at a surgery center where we would have to pay cash. The surgery would not be covered by insurance at this surgery center. We keep trying to get the surgery scheduled at a hospital so insurance will cover it, but the Dr. is making that difficult. She really wants to do it at this surgery center where we will have to pay cash. In my opinion, the Dr. should do the surgery for free. We already paid to have it done once, she didn't do it correctly, and now we're being held in a position where the $20k we've spent so far goes to nothing if we don't pay the Dr. again to do the surgery. Do I have any recourse here? | iq6pa2b | iq593k8 | 1,664,330,844 | 1,664,308,107 | 31 | 3 | You could always move your embryos to a different clinic if you decide to use another doctor. Your embryos aren’t tied to that particular doctor or clinic. | This may be a better question for /r/healthinsurance | 1 | 22,737 | 10.333333 |
xpppug | legaladvice_train | 0.89 | Fertility Dr. is charging us for her own mistake. (U.S.) My wife and I are doing invitro fertilization in the U.S. with a fertility doctor. In January 2022, the Dr. told my wife she has a mis-shaped uterus and recommended a surgery to correct it. This surgery was not required, the Dr. said, but recommended because the shape of my wife's uterus could cause complications in child birth. My wife had the surgery done in Feb. 2022, performed by the fertility Dr. Fast forward nine months later to today. We have spent an additional \~$20k on the IVF process. It came time to implant the embryos and the Dr. just informed us that the surgery she performed correcting the shape of my wife's uterus didn't completely fix it and she needs to do it again. She now wants to charge us to do the surgery again is not willing to move forward with the IVF process until it is done. The Dr. wants to do the surgery at a surgery center where we would have to pay cash. The surgery would not be covered by insurance at this surgery center. We keep trying to get the surgery scheduled at a hospital so insurance will cover it, but the Dr. is making that difficult. She really wants to do it at this surgery center where we will have to pay cash. In my opinion, the Dr. should do the surgery for free. We already paid to have it done once, she didn't do it correctly, and now we're being held in a position where the $20k we've spent so far goes to nothing if we don't pay the Dr. again to do the surgery. Do I have any recourse here? | iq6sal0 | iq593k8 | 1,664,332,295 | 1,664,308,107 | 16 | 3 | Seek second opinion from another specialist. This is above reddit’s LA pay grade. Best of luck OP! | This may be a better question for /r/healthinsurance | 1 | 24,188 | 5.333333 |
xpppug | legaladvice_train | 0.89 | Fertility Dr. is charging us for her own mistake. (U.S.) My wife and I are doing invitro fertilization in the U.S. with a fertility doctor. In January 2022, the Dr. told my wife she has a mis-shaped uterus and recommended a surgery to correct it. This surgery was not required, the Dr. said, but recommended because the shape of my wife's uterus could cause complications in child birth. My wife had the surgery done in Feb. 2022, performed by the fertility Dr. Fast forward nine months later to today. We have spent an additional \~$20k on the IVF process. It came time to implant the embryos and the Dr. just informed us that the surgery she performed correcting the shape of my wife's uterus didn't completely fix it and she needs to do it again. She now wants to charge us to do the surgery again is not willing to move forward with the IVF process until it is done. The Dr. wants to do the surgery at a surgery center where we would have to pay cash. The surgery would not be covered by insurance at this surgery center. We keep trying to get the surgery scheduled at a hospital so insurance will cover it, but the Dr. is making that difficult. She really wants to do it at this surgery center where we will have to pay cash. In my opinion, the Dr. should do the surgery for free. We already paid to have it done once, she didn't do it correctly, and now we're being held in a position where the $20k we've spent so far goes to nothing if we don't pay the Dr. again to do the surgery. Do I have any recourse here? | iq7e6p2 | iq593k8 | 1,664,345,687 | 1,664,308,107 | 11 | 3 | Not a lawyer but y’all really need to get a second opinion from a different surgeon, preferably one that will be covered by your insurance. | This may be a better question for /r/healthinsurance | 1 | 37,580 | 3.666667 |
yrqpo1 | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Is it legal for my employer to ask me, and only me, to change my hair color? [Texas] I have had blonde hair for 1 and 1/2 of the 2 years that I have been employed by my company. Today a supervisor told me that my hair color was inappropriate, and that I would not be allowed to return to work until I changed it. This caught me by surprise because our official policy vaguely says “no unnatural hair colors” which I, and many others interpreted to mean no colors such as blue, pink, green etc. I have many coworkers who have dyed their hair blonde and other various shades of naturally occurring colors with no issue. The only difference I can see between me and my other coworkers is that they are all white and I am African American (female). My company employee makeup is about 99.5% white, (I did the math), and I can’t help but feel there is racial undertones to why it is inappropriate for me to have blonde hair, but not others. My response to my supervisor was that I was unaware my hair color choice was inappropriate, and I asked why I had never received any sort of notice that it was inappropriate in the 1+ year of having the hair color. My supervisor did not acknowledge my response, and said that I would have to dye my hair to a “naturally dark” shade before being allowed to return to work. I did not want to misinterpret what she said, and so I asked for photos of acceptable hair color for clarification which I am still waiting to receive from her. She said she would need to discuss an appropriate hair color for me with her boss before she got back with me. Her boss is a white woman with naturally dark hair who bleaches her hair to a similar shade of blonde as I do. I also would like to add that in my time with this company I have never had any disciplinary actions taken against me, and I was under the impression - up until this point - that I was in very good standing with my company. | ivv4lz0 | ivv1wkc | 1,668,113,717 | 1,668,112,652 | 3,343 | 436 | Everything in writing, follow up every phone call and in person meeting in an email describing the interaction, basically act as if they haven’t committed to anything they haven’t put in writing. Keep asking why whatever adjective they use to describe appropriate hair color does not apply to you and your hair color. | This is sticky. You should ask HR directly for clarification. Let them know what’s going on. | 1 | 1,065 | 7.667431 |
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