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Quit Claim Title Fraud and now they sold my home out from under my feet. AmIFucked? On the 12th of December, I woke up to find a notice posted on the garage door to my home, which was a notice to Quit & Vacate to any and all occupants. The notice also says that my right to possession of my property has been terminated because the property has been sold on 30 November. This notice was posted by a representative from a local LLC that buys the property. I did not participate in any agreement to sell my property, nor do I intend to sell my home. I then went online to check the status of my property deed on the county assessor parcel map. To my surprise, I found that the property deed was now a “quit claim” deed posted on the 27th of September. This fictitious deed is stating that I am relinquishing 100% of my ownership to Someone Else. This Someone is someone who pretended to be a close friend of mine and gained my trust. I never suspected that he would go to the lengths he went to, or that he would do anything like this to me. When I asked him what this was all about he said it would be in my best interest to just go along with what he was doing and not litigate or go to the police. I fear for my safety and for the safety of my loved ones, should he find out that I am not going along with his plan. I never agreed to any of this, and I don’t want to lose my home. This is the house I grew up in and it was left to me by my parents after they passed away. My parents worked hard to make sure that I would have this house when I came of age, and they would be so disappointed and upset to see this happen to me. There must be a way to reverse the damage done by Someone, there must be some action I can take to prevent the damage from becoming permanent. Or AmIFucked?
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Did he forge your signature? Anyone can make a "quit claim" deed - it just means they are quitting any claims they have to the property. For example, you could "quit claim" Disney world and it basically means if you had any ownership in Disney, you are quitting your claim to it. A quit claim deed is the worst quality deed there is, and it doesn't actually guarantee you have conveyed something, just that the executor is waiving their rights. Time to hire an attorney. May be worth calling your title insurance/ homeowners insurance too
You need to contact a real estate attorney, literally right now. Was a title company used when the house was deeded to you? Do you have title insurance?
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Quit Claim Title Fraud and now they sold my home out from under my feet. AmIFucked? On the 12th of December, I woke up to find a notice posted on the garage door to my home, which was a notice to Quit & Vacate to any and all occupants. The notice also says that my right to possession of my property has been terminated because the property has been sold on 30 November. This notice was posted by a representative from a local LLC that buys the property. I did not participate in any agreement to sell my property, nor do I intend to sell my home. I then went online to check the status of my property deed on the county assessor parcel map. To my surprise, I found that the property deed was now a “quit claim” deed posted on the 27th of September. This fictitious deed is stating that I am relinquishing 100% of my ownership to Someone Else. This Someone is someone who pretended to be a close friend of mine and gained my trust. I never suspected that he would go to the lengths he went to, or that he would do anything like this to me. When I asked him what this was all about he said it would be in my best interest to just go along with what he was doing and not litigate or go to the police. I fear for my safety and for the safety of my loved ones, should he find out that I am not going along with his plan. I never agreed to any of this, and I don’t want to lose my home. This is the house I grew up in and it was left to me by my parents after they passed away. My parents worked hard to make sure that I would have this house when I came of age, and they would be so disappointed and upset to see this happen to me. There must be a way to reverse the damage done by Someone, there must be some action I can take to prevent the damage from becoming permanent. Or AmIFucked?
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Hopefully you have homeowner's insurance. If so, that would be my first call. Second, if you have an outstanding mortgage on the house you should call the bank and let them know what is going on. The bank *absolutely* has an interest in preserving their security interest (the house). Finally, talk to a lawyer that specializes in real estate. > he said it would be in my best interest to just go along with what he was doing and not litigate or go to the police Don't take legal advice from your opponent.
The poster states they had no intention of selling their home.. however they do not state if they “actually signed” the quit claim deed. They also say the other person pretended to be a good friend.. this makes me think there was some form of relationship. They said they “couldn’t believe the lengths he went to or that he would do this to me”..I am thinking there’s more to the story, and this person may have willingly put the other person on the deed and things didn’t go as planned. Maybe the other person took over payments or caught up taxes.. or maybe they pretended to be a love interest but are really just a jerk and wanted to liquidate the property for a profit. I don’t know the specifics, but I do think there are a lot more details to the story.
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Quit Claim Title Fraud and now they sold my home out from under my feet. AmIFucked? On the 12th of December, I woke up to find a notice posted on the garage door to my home, which was a notice to Quit & Vacate to any and all occupants. The notice also says that my right to possession of my property has been terminated because the property has been sold on 30 November. This notice was posted by a representative from a local LLC that buys the property. I did not participate in any agreement to sell my property, nor do I intend to sell my home. I then went online to check the status of my property deed on the county assessor parcel map. To my surprise, I found that the property deed was now a “quit claim” deed posted on the 27th of September. This fictitious deed is stating that I am relinquishing 100% of my ownership to Someone Else. This Someone is someone who pretended to be a close friend of mine and gained my trust. I never suspected that he would go to the lengths he went to, or that he would do anything like this to me. When I asked him what this was all about he said it would be in my best interest to just go along with what he was doing and not litigate or go to the police. I fear for my safety and for the safety of my loved ones, should he find out that I am not going along with his plan. I never agreed to any of this, and I don’t want to lose my home. This is the house I grew up in and it was left to me by my parents after they passed away. My parents worked hard to make sure that I would have this house when I came of age, and they would be so disappointed and upset to see this happen to me. There must be a way to reverse the damage done by Someone, there must be some action I can take to prevent the damage from becoming permanent. Or AmIFucked?
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You need to contact a real estate attorney, literally right now. Was a title company used when the house was deeded to you? Do you have title insurance?
The poster states they had no intention of selling their home.. however they do not state if they “actually signed” the quit claim deed. They also say the other person pretended to be a good friend.. this makes me think there was some form of relationship. They said they “couldn’t believe the lengths he went to or that he would do this to me”..I am thinking there’s more to the story, and this person may have willingly put the other person on the deed and things didn’t go as planned. Maybe the other person took over payments or caught up taxes.. or maybe they pretended to be a love interest but are really just a jerk and wanted to liquidate the property for a profit. I don’t know the specifics, but I do think there are a lot more details to the story.
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Quit Claim Title Fraud and now they sold my home out from under my feet. AmIFucked? On the 12th of December, I woke up to find a notice posted on the garage door to my home, which was a notice to Quit & Vacate to any and all occupants. The notice also says that my right to possession of my property has been terminated because the property has been sold on 30 November. This notice was posted by a representative from a local LLC that buys the property. I did not participate in any agreement to sell my property, nor do I intend to sell my home. I then went online to check the status of my property deed on the county assessor parcel map. To my surprise, I found that the property deed was now a “quit claim” deed posted on the 27th of September. This fictitious deed is stating that I am relinquishing 100% of my ownership to Someone Else. This Someone is someone who pretended to be a close friend of mine and gained my trust. I never suspected that he would go to the lengths he went to, or that he would do anything like this to me. When I asked him what this was all about he said it would be in my best interest to just go along with what he was doing and not litigate or go to the police. I fear for my safety and for the safety of my loved ones, should he find out that I am not going along with his plan. I never agreed to any of this, and I don’t want to lose my home. This is the house I grew up in and it was left to me by my parents after they passed away. My parents worked hard to make sure that I would have this house when I came of age, and they would be so disappointed and upset to see this happen to me. There must be a way to reverse the damage done by Someone, there must be some action I can take to prevent the damage from becoming permanent. Or AmIFucked?
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Cut off all contact with this person and call the police at minimum. This is pretty serious fraud
The poster states they had no intention of selling their home.. however they do not state if they “actually signed” the quit claim deed. They also say the other person pretended to be a good friend.. this makes me think there was some form of relationship. They said they “couldn’t believe the lengths he went to or that he would do this to me”..I am thinking there’s more to the story, and this person may have willingly put the other person on the deed and things didn’t go as planned. Maybe the other person took over payments or caught up taxes.. or maybe they pretended to be a love interest but are really just a jerk and wanted to liquidate the property for a profit. I don’t know the specifics, but I do think there are a lot more details to the story.
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Quit Claim Title Fraud and now they sold my home out from under my feet. AmIFucked? On the 12th of December, I woke up to find a notice posted on the garage door to my home, which was a notice to Quit & Vacate to any and all occupants. The notice also says that my right to possession of my property has been terminated because the property has been sold on 30 November. This notice was posted by a representative from a local LLC that buys the property. I did not participate in any agreement to sell my property, nor do I intend to sell my home. I then went online to check the status of my property deed on the county assessor parcel map. To my surprise, I found that the property deed was now a “quit claim” deed posted on the 27th of September. This fictitious deed is stating that I am relinquishing 100% of my ownership to Someone Else. This Someone is someone who pretended to be a close friend of mine and gained my trust. I never suspected that he would go to the lengths he went to, or that he would do anything like this to me. When I asked him what this was all about he said it would be in my best interest to just go along with what he was doing and not litigate or go to the police. I fear for my safety and for the safety of my loved ones, should he find out that I am not going along with his plan. I never agreed to any of this, and I don’t want to lose my home. This is the house I grew up in and it was left to me by my parents after they passed away. My parents worked hard to make sure that I would have this house when I came of age, and they would be so disappointed and upset to see this happen to me. There must be a way to reverse the damage done by Someone, there must be some action I can take to prevent the damage from becoming permanent. Or AmIFucked?
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Police first now then reach out to an attorney.
The poster states they had no intention of selling their home.. however they do not state if they “actually signed” the quit claim deed. They also say the other person pretended to be a good friend.. this makes me think there was some form of relationship. They said they “couldn’t believe the lengths he went to or that he would do this to me”..I am thinking there’s more to the story, and this person may have willingly put the other person on the deed and things didn’t go as planned. Maybe the other person took over payments or caught up taxes.. or maybe they pretended to be a love interest but are really just a jerk and wanted to liquidate the property for a profit. I don’t know the specifics, but I do think there are a lot more details to the story.
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Quit Claim Title Fraud and now they sold my home out from under my feet. AmIFucked? On the 12th of December, I woke up to find a notice posted on the garage door to my home, which was a notice to Quit & Vacate to any and all occupants. The notice also says that my right to possession of my property has been terminated because the property has been sold on 30 November. This notice was posted by a representative from a local LLC that buys the property. I did not participate in any agreement to sell my property, nor do I intend to sell my home. I then went online to check the status of my property deed on the county assessor parcel map. To my surprise, I found that the property deed was now a “quit claim” deed posted on the 27th of September. This fictitious deed is stating that I am relinquishing 100% of my ownership to Someone Else. This Someone is someone who pretended to be a close friend of mine and gained my trust. I never suspected that he would go to the lengths he went to, or that he would do anything like this to me. When I asked him what this was all about he said it would be in my best interest to just go along with what he was doing and not litigate or go to the police. I fear for my safety and for the safety of my loved ones, should he find out that I am not going along with his plan. I never agreed to any of this, and I don’t want to lose my home. This is the house I grew up in and it was left to me by my parents after they passed away. My parents worked hard to make sure that I would have this house when I came of age, and they would be so disappointed and upset to see this happen to me. There must be a way to reverse the damage done by Someone, there must be some action I can take to prevent the damage from becoming permanent. Or AmIFucked?
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The poster states they had no intention of selling their home.. however they do not state if they “actually signed” the quit claim deed. They also say the other person pretended to be a good friend.. this makes me think there was some form of relationship. They said they “couldn’t believe the lengths he went to or that he would do this to me”..I am thinking there’s more to the story, and this person may have willingly put the other person on the deed and things didn’t go as planned. Maybe the other person took over payments or caught up taxes.. or maybe they pretended to be a love interest but are really just a jerk and wanted to liquidate the property for a profit. I don’t know the specifics, but I do think there are a lot more details to the story.
Call your local county recorders office which files property documents in the public record and report the deed as false. Check to see if a title company, business or person filed the false deed. File a police report that the deed is false and list who filed the deed. You can notify a lawyer or your local legal aid about what has happened to get assistance to nullify the false deed. You can file a complaint with the consumer protection division of attorney Generals Office what has happened and request an investigation. You can hire a title company to repair the title.
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Quit Claim Title Fraud and now they sold my home out from under my feet. AmIFucked? On the 12th of December, I woke up to find a notice posted on the garage door to my home, which was a notice to Quit & Vacate to any and all occupants. The notice also says that my right to possession of my property has been terminated because the property has been sold on 30 November. This notice was posted by a representative from a local LLC that buys the property. I did not participate in any agreement to sell my property, nor do I intend to sell my home. I then went online to check the status of my property deed on the county assessor parcel map. To my surprise, I found that the property deed was now a “quit claim” deed posted on the 27th of September. This fictitious deed is stating that I am relinquishing 100% of my ownership to Someone Else. This Someone is someone who pretended to be a close friend of mine and gained my trust. I never suspected that he would go to the lengths he went to, or that he would do anything like this to me. When I asked him what this was all about he said it would be in my best interest to just go along with what he was doing and not litigate or go to the police. I fear for my safety and for the safety of my loved ones, should he find out that I am not going along with his plan. I never agreed to any of this, and I don’t want to lose my home. This is the house I grew up in and it was left to me by my parents after they passed away. My parents worked hard to make sure that I would have this house when I came of age, and they would be so disappointed and upset to see this happen to me. There must be a way to reverse the damage done by Someone, there must be some action I can take to prevent the damage from becoming permanent. Or AmIFucked?
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Hopefully you have homeowner's insurance. If so, that would be my first call. Second, if you have an outstanding mortgage on the house you should call the bank and let them know what is going on. The bank *absolutely* has an interest in preserving their security interest (the house). Finally, talk to a lawyer that specializes in real estate. > he said it would be in my best interest to just go along with what he was doing and not litigate or go to the police Don't take legal advice from your opponent.
You need to contact a real estate attorney, literally right now. Was a title company used when the house was deeded to you? Do you have title insurance?
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Quit Claim Title Fraud and now they sold my home out from under my feet. AmIFucked? On the 12th of December, I woke up to find a notice posted on the garage door to my home, which was a notice to Quit & Vacate to any and all occupants. The notice also says that my right to possession of my property has been terminated because the property has been sold on 30 November. This notice was posted by a representative from a local LLC that buys the property. I did not participate in any agreement to sell my property, nor do I intend to sell my home. I then went online to check the status of my property deed on the county assessor parcel map. To my surprise, I found that the property deed was now a “quit claim” deed posted on the 27th of September. This fictitious deed is stating that I am relinquishing 100% of my ownership to Someone Else. This Someone is someone who pretended to be a close friend of mine and gained my trust. I never suspected that he would go to the lengths he went to, or that he would do anything like this to me. When I asked him what this was all about he said it would be in my best interest to just go along with what he was doing and not litigate or go to the police. I fear for my safety and for the safety of my loved ones, should he find out that I am not going along with his plan. I never agreed to any of this, and I don’t want to lose my home. This is the house I grew up in and it was left to me by my parents after they passed away. My parents worked hard to make sure that I would have this house when I came of age, and they would be so disappointed and upset to see this happen to me. There must be a way to reverse the damage done by Someone, there must be some action I can take to prevent the damage from becoming permanent. Or AmIFucked?
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You need to contact a real estate attorney, literally right now. Was a title company used when the house was deeded to you? Do you have title insurance?
Not a lawyer - You need to err on doing too much, as opposed to doing too little. A lot of this depends on the state that you live in. You need to - all at once - call the police, call your homeowner's insurance, and find a good real estate attorney. * Call the police to report 1) identity theft, 2) property theft, and 3) extortion (the threat made against you). You need to really push this since the fraud on your home is well into progress. * Call your homeowners insurance. They may help with the legal bills to pay for the real estate attorney * Find and call an experienced real estate attorney who will fight for your rights. You will need to follow their directions to the letter in terms of starting to reverse all the damage done to date. * Your state will have a department that licenses notary publics. You want to file a complaint on the notary public who notarized the quick claim deed. * Check to see if your parents have a title insurance policy on the house - if so, call the title insurance company * https://www.deeds.com/articles/the-quitclaim-deed-and-fraudulent-real-estate-transactions/ * https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/what-to-do-when-a-quitclaim-deed-is-challenged * https://dayton247now.com/news/local/quitclaim-deed-scams-how-to-protect-your-real-estate-from-being-stolen * https://schorr-law.com/quitclaim-deed-fraud/ * https://www.varalaw.com/challenging-a-quitclaim-deed/ This link is especially helpful.... * https://mmrltd.com/blog/4770-preventing-and-fixing-deed-fraud/ * https://www.westernforensicdocumentexaminer.com/fraudulent-quitclaim-deeds/
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Quit Claim Title Fraud and now they sold my home out from under my feet. AmIFucked? On the 12th of December, I woke up to find a notice posted on the garage door to my home, which was a notice to Quit & Vacate to any and all occupants. The notice also says that my right to possession of my property has been terminated because the property has been sold on 30 November. This notice was posted by a representative from a local LLC that buys the property. I did not participate in any agreement to sell my property, nor do I intend to sell my home. I then went online to check the status of my property deed on the county assessor parcel map. To my surprise, I found that the property deed was now a “quit claim” deed posted on the 27th of September. This fictitious deed is stating that I am relinquishing 100% of my ownership to Someone Else. This Someone is someone who pretended to be a close friend of mine and gained my trust. I never suspected that he would go to the lengths he went to, or that he would do anything like this to me. When I asked him what this was all about he said it would be in my best interest to just go along with what he was doing and not litigate or go to the police. I fear for my safety and for the safety of my loved ones, should he find out that I am not going along with his plan. I never agreed to any of this, and I don’t want to lose my home. This is the house I grew up in and it was left to me by my parents after they passed away. My parents worked hard to make sure that I would have this house when I came of age, and they would be so disappointed and upset to see this happen to me. There must be a way to reverse the damage done by Someone, there must be some action I can take to prevent the damage from becoming permanent. Or AmIFucked?
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Not a lawyer - You need to err on doing too much, as opposed to doing too little. A lot of this depends on the state that you live in. You need to - all at once - call the police, call your homeowner's insurance, and find a good real estate attorney. * Call the police to report 1) identity theft, 2) property theft, and 3) extortion (the threat made against you). You need to really push this since the fraud on your home is well into progress. * Call your homeowners insurance. They may help with the legal bills to pay for the real estate attorney * Find and call an experienced real estate attorney who will fight for your rights. You will need to follow their directions to the letter in terms of starting to reverse all the damage done to date. * Your state will have a department that licenses notary publics. You want to file a complaint on the notary public who notarized the quick claim deed. * Check to see if your parents have a title insurance policy on the house - if so, call the title insurance company * https://www.deeds.com/articles/the-quitclaim-deed-and-fraudulent-real-estate-transactions/ * https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/what-to-do-when-a-quitclaim-deed-is-challenged * https://dayton247now.com/news/local/quitclaim-deed-scams-how-to-protect-your-real-estate-from-being-stolen * https://schorr-law.com/quitclaim-deed-fraud/ * https://www.varalaw.com/challenging-a-quitclaim-deed/ This link is especially helpful.... * https://mmrltd.com/blog/4770-preventing-and-fixing-deed-fraud/ * https://www.westernforensicdocumentexaminer.com/fraudulent-quitclaim-deeds/
Cut off all contact with this person and call the police at minimum. This is pretty serious fraud
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Quit Claim Title Fraud and now they sold my home out from under my feet. AmIFucked? On the 12th of December, I woke up to find a notice posted on the garage door to my home, which was a notice to Quit & Vacate to any and all occupants. The notice also says that my right to possession of my property has been terminated because the property has been sold on 30 November. This notice was posted by a representative from a local LLC that buys the property. I did not participate in any agreement to sell my property, nor do I intend to sell my home. I then went online to check the status of my property deed on the county assessor parcel map. To my surprise, I found that the property deed was now a “quit claim” deed posted on the 27th of September. This fictitious deed is stating that I am relinquishing 100% of my ownership to Someone Else. This Someone is someone who pretended to be a close friend of mine and gained my trust. I never suspected that he would go to the lengths he went to, or that he would do anything like this to me. When I asked him what this was all about he said it would be in my best interest to just go along with what he was doing and not litigate or go to the police. I fear for my safety and for the safety of my loved ones, should he find out that I am not going along with his plan. I never agreed to any of this, and I don’t want to lose my home. This is the house I grew up in and it was left to me by my parents after they passed away. My parents worked hard to make sure that I would have this house when I came of age, and they would be so disappointed and upset to see this happen to me. There must be a way to reverse the damage done by Someone, there must be some action I can take to prevent the damage from becoming permanent. Or AmIFucked?
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Police first now then reach out to an attorney.
Not a lawyer - You need to err on doing too much, as opposed to doing too little. A lot of this depends on the state that you live in. You need to - all at once - call the police, call your homeowner's insurance, and find a good real estate attorney. * Call the police to report 1) identity theft, 2) property theft, and 3) extortion (the threat made against you). You need to really push this since the fraud on your home is well into progress. * Call your homeowners insurance. They may help with the legal bills to pay for the real estate attorney * Find and call an experienced real estate attorney who will fight for your rights. You will need to follow their directions to the letter in terms of starting to reverse all the damage done to date. * Your state will have a department that licenses notary publics. You want to file a complaint on the notary public who notarized the quick claim deed. * Check to see if your parents have a title insurance policy on the house - if so, call the title insurance company * https://www.deeds.com/articles/the-quitclaim-deed-and-fraudulent-real-estate-transactions/ * https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/what-to-do-when-a-quitclaim-deed-is-challenged * https://dayton247now.com/news/local/quitclaim-deed-scams-how-to-protect-your-real-estate-from-being-stolen * https://schorr-law.com/quitclaim-deed-fraud/ * https://www.varalaw.com/challenging-a-quitclaim-deed/ This link is especially helpful.... * https://mmrltd.com/blog/4770-preventing-and-fixing-deed-fraud/ * https://www.westernforensicdocumentexaminer.com/fraudulent-quitclaim-deeds/
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Quit Claim Title Fraud and now they sold my home out from under my feet. AmIFucked? On the 12th of December, I woke up to find a notice posted on the garage door to my home, which was a notice to Quit & Vacate to any and all occupants. The notice also says that my right to possession of my property has been terminated because the property has been sold on 30 November. This notice was posted by a representative from a local LLC that buys the property. I did not participate in any agreement to sell my property, nor do I intend to sell my home. I then went online to check the status of my property deed on the county assessor parcel map. To my surprise, I found that the property deed was now a “quit claim” deed posted on the 27th of September. This fictitious deed is stating that I am relinquishing 100% of my ownership to Someone Else. This Someone is someone who pretended to be a close friend of mine and gained my trust. I never suspected that he would go to the lengths he went to, or that he would do anything like this to me. When I asked him what this was all about he said it would be in my best interest to just go along with what he was doing and not litigate or go to the police. I fear for my safety and for the safety of my loved ones, should he find out that I am not going along with his plan. I never agreed to any of this, and I don’t want to lose my home. This is the house I grew up in and it was left to me by my parents after they passed away. My parents worked hard to make sure that I would have this house when I came of age, and they would be so disappointed and upset to see this happen to me. There must be a way to reverse the damage done by Someone, there must be some action I can take to prevent the damage from becoming permanent. Or AmIFucked?
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Not a lawyer - You need to err on doing too much, as opposed to doing too little. A lot of this depends on the state that you live in. You need to - all at once - call the police, call your homeowner's insurance, and find a good real estate attorney. * Call the police to report 1) identity theft, 2) property theft, and 3) extortion (the threat made against you). You need to really push this since the fraud on your home is well into progress. * Call your homeowners insurance. They may help with the legal bills to pay for the real estate attorney * Find and call an experienced real estate attorney who will fight for your rights. You will need to follow their directions to the letter in terms of starting to reverse all the damage done to date. * Your state will have a department that licenses notary publics. You want to file a complaint on the notary public who notarized the quick claim deed. * Check to see if your parents have a title insurance policy on the house - if so, call the title insurance company * https://www.deeds.com/articles/the-quitclaim-deed-and-fraudulent-real-estate-transactions/ * https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/what-to-do-when-a-quitclaim-deed-is-challenged * https://dayton247now.com/news/local/quitclaim-deed-scams-how-to-protect-your-real-estate-from-being-stolen * https://schorr-law.com/quitclaim-deed-fraud/ * https://www.varalaw.com/challenging-a-quitclaim-deed/ This link is especially helpful.... * https://mmrltd.com/blog/4770-preventing-and-fixing-deed-fraud/ * https://www.westernforensicdocumentexaminer.com/fraudulent-quitclaim-deeds/
Call the police. Get an attorney. In that order. And do it like…yesterday.
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Quit Claim Title Fraud and now they sold my home out from under my feet. AmIFucked? On the 12th of December, I woke up to find a notice posted on the garage door to my home, which was a notice to Quit & Vacate to any and all occupants. The notice also says that my right to possession of my property has been terminated because the property has been sold on 30 November. This notice was posted by a representative from a local LLC that buys the property. I did not participate in any agreement to sell my property, nor do I intend to sell my home. I then went online to check the status of my property deed on the county assessor parcel map. To my surprise, I found that the property deed was now a “quit claim” deed posted on the 27th of September. This fictitious deed is stating that I am relinquishing 100% of my ownership to Someone Else. This Someone is someone who pretended to be a close friend of mine and gained my trust. I never suspected that he would go to the lengths he went to, or that he would do anything like this to me. When I asked him what this was all about he said it would be in my best interest to just go along with what he was doing and not litigate or go to the police. I fear for my safety and for the safety of my loved ones, should he find out that I am not going along with his plan. I never agreed to any of this, and I don’t want to lose my home. This is the house I grew up in and it was left to me by my parents after they passed away. My parents worked hard to make sure that I would have this house when I came of age, and they would be so disappointed and upset to see this happen to me. There must be a way to reverse the damage done by Someone, there must be some action I can take to prevent the damage from becoming permanent. Or AmIFucked?
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Not a lawyer - You need to err on doing too much, as opposed to doing too little. A lot of this depends on the state that you live in. You need to - all at once - call the police, call your homeowner's insurance, and find a good real estate attorney. * Call the police to report 1) identity theft, 2) property theft, and 3) extortion (the threat made against you). You need to really push this since the fraud on your home is well into progress. * Call your homeowners insurance. They may help with the legal bills to pay for the real estate attorney * Find and call an experienced real estate attorney who will fight for your rights. You will need to follow their directions to the letter in terms of starting to reverse all the damage done to date. * Your state will have a department that licenses notary publics. You want to file a complaint on the notary public who notarized the quick claim deed. * Check to see if your parents have a title insurance policy on the house - if so, call the title insurance company * https://www.deeds.com/articles/the-quitclaim-deed-and-fraudulent-real-estate-transactions/ * https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/what-to-do-when-a-quitclaim-deed-is-challenged * https://dayton247now.com/news/local/quitclaim-deed-scams-how-to-protect-your-real-estate-from-being-stolen * https://schorr-law.com/quitclaim-deed-fraud/ * https://www.varalaw.com/challenging-a-quitclaim-deed/ This link is especially helpful.... * https://mmrltd.com/blog/4770-preventing-and-fixing-deed-fraud/ * https://www.westernforensicdocumentexaminer.com/fraudulent-quitclaim-deeds/
Call your local county recorders office which files property documents in the public record and report the deed as false. Check to see if a title company, business or person filed the false deed. File a police report that the deed is false and list who filed the deed. You can notify a lawyer or your local legal aid about what has happened to get assistance to nullify the false deed. You can file a complaint with the consumer protection division of attorney Generals Office what has happened and request an investigation. You can hire a title company to repair the title.
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Quit Claim Title Fraud and now they sold my home out from under my feet. AmIFucked? On the 12th of December, I woke up to find a notice posted on the garage door to my home, which was a notice to Quit & Vacate to any and all occupants. The notice also says that my right to possession of my property has been terminated because the property has been sold on 30 November. This notice was posted by a representative from a local LLC that buys the property. I did not participate in any agreement to sell my property, nor do I intend to sell my home. I then went online to check the status of my property deed on the county assessor parcel map. To my surprise, I found that the property deed was now a “quit claim” deed posted on the 27th of September. This fictitious deed is stating that I am relinquishing 100% of my ownership to Someone Else. This Someone is someone who pretended to be a close friend of mine and gained my trust. I never suspected that he would go to the lengths he went to, or that he would do anything like this to me. When I asked him what this was all about he said it would be in my best interest to just go along with what he was doing and not litigate or go to the police. I fear for my safety and for the safety of my loved ones, should he find out that I am not going along with his plan. I never agreed to any of this, and I don’t want to lose my home. This is the house I grew up in and it was left to me by my parents after they passed away. My parents worked hard to make sure that I would have this house when I came of age, and they would be so disappointed and upset to see this happen to me. There must be a way to reverse the damage done by Someone, there must be some action I can take to prevent the damage from becoming permanent. Or AmIFucked?
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Police first now then reach out to an attorney.
Cut off all contact with this person and call the police at minimum. This is pretty serious fraud
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Quit Claim Title Fraud and now they sold my home out from under my feet. AmIFucked? On the 12th of December, I woke up to find a notice posted on the garage door to my home, which was a notice to Quit & Vacate to any and all occupants. The notice also says that my right to possession of my property has been terminated because the property has been sold on 30 November. This notice was posted by a representative from a local LLC that buys the property. I did not participate in any agreement to sell my property, nor do I intend to sell my home. I then went online to check the status of my property deed on the county assessor parcel map. To my surprise, I found that the property deed was now a “quit claim” deed posted on the 27th of September. This fictitious deed is stating that I am relinquishing 100% of my ownership to Someone Else. This Someone is someone who pretended to be a close friend of mine and gained my trust. I never suspected that he would go to the lengths he went to, or that he would do anything like this to me. When I asked him what this was all about he said it would be in my best interest to just go along with what he was doing and not litigate or go to the police. I fear for my safety and for the safety of my loved ones, should he find out that I am not going along with his plan. I never agreed to any of this, and I don’t want to lose my home. This is the house I grew up in and it was left to me by my parents after they passed away. My parents worked hard to make sure that I would have this house when I came of age, and they would be so disappointed and upset to see this happen to me. There must be a way to reverse the damage done by Someone, there must be some action I can take to prevent the damage from becoming permanent. Or AmIFucked?
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Little known piece of information. *I am a notary, not an attorney Did you sign the QCD? If so, did you do so in the presence of a notary? Did the notary properly identify you? As in, saw and verified your identification? Did you sign under duress? Is the notary actually a notary? Notaries are responsible for all of the above. If the notary is working with the “friend” who fooled you, they can be held liable for financial damage to the signer. This can be very costly. Yes, notaries can be sued.
Call your local county recorders office which files property documents in the public record and report the deed as false. Check to see if a title company, business or person filed the false deed. File a police report that the deed is false and list who filed the deed. You can notify a lawyer or your local legal aid about what has happened to get assistance to nullify the false deed. You can file a complaint with the consumer protection division of attorney Generals Office what has happened and request an investigation. You can hire a title company to repair the title.
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Quit Claim Title Fraud and now they sold my home out from under my feet. AmIFucked? On the 12th of December, I woke up to find a notice posted on the garage door to my home, which was a notice to Quit & Vacate to any and all occupants. The notice also says that my right to possession of my property has been terminated because the property has been sold on 30 November. This notice was posted by a representative from a local LLC that buys the property. I did not participate in any agreement to sell my property, nor do I intend to sell my home. I then went online to check the status of my property deed on the county assessor parcel map. To my surprise, I found that the property deed was now a “quit claim” deed posted on the 27th of September. This fictitious deed is stating that I am relinquishing 100% of my ownership to Someone Else. This Someone is someone who pretended to be a close friend of mine and gained my trust. I never suspected that he would go to the lengths he went to, or that he would do anything like this to me. When I asked him what this was all about he said it would be in my best interest to just go along with what he was doing and not litigate or go to the police. I fear for my safety and for the safety of my loved ones, should he find out that I am not going along with his plan. I never agreed to any of this, and I don’t want to lose my home. This is the house I grew up in and it was left to me by my parents after they passed away. My parents worked hard to make sure that I would have this house when I came of age, and they would be so disappointed and upset to see this happen to me. There must be a way to reverse the damage done by Someone, there must be some action I can take to prevent the damage from becoming permanent. Or AmIFucked?
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Call your local county recorders office which files property documents in the public record and report the deed as false. Check to see if a title company, business or person filed the false deed. File a police report that the deed is false and list who filed the deed. You can notify a lawyer or your local legal aid about what has happened to get assistance to nullify the false deed. You can file a complaint with the consumer protection division of attorney Generals Office what has happened and request an investigation. You can hire a title company to repair the title.
Call the police. Get an attorney. In that order. And do it like…yesterday.
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Quit Claim Title Fraud and now they sold my home out from under my feet. AmIFucked? On the 12th of December, I woke up to find a notice posted on the garage door to my home, which was a notice to Quit & Vacate to any and all occupants. The notice also says that my right to possession of my property has been terminated because the property has been sold on 30 November. This notice was posted by a representative from a local LLC that buys the property. I did not participate in any agreement to sell my property, nor do I intend to sell my home. I then went online to check the status of my property deed on the county assessor parcel map. To my surprise, I found that the property deed was now a “quit claim” deed posted on the 27th of September. This fictitious deed is stating that I am relinquishing 100% of my ownership to Someone Else. This Someone is someone who pretended to be a close friend of mine and gained my trust. I never suspected that he would go to the lengths he went to, or that he would do anything like this to me. When I asked him what this was all about he said it would be in my best interest to just go along with what he was doing and not litigate or go to the police. I fear for my safety and for the safety of my loved ones, should he find out that I am not going along with his plan. I never agreed to any of this, and I don’t want to lose my home. This is the house I grew up in and it was left to me by my parents after they passed away. My parents worked hard to make sure that I would have this house when I came of age, and they would be so disappointed and upset to see this happen to me. There must be a way to reverse the damage done by Someone, there must be some action I can take to prevent the damage from becoming permanent. Or AmIFucked?
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Call your local county recorders office which files property documents in the public record and report the deed as false. Check to see if a title company, business or person filed the false deed. File a police report that the deed is false and list who filed the deed. You can notify a lawyer or your local legal aid about what has happened to get assistance to nullify the false deed. You can file a complaint with the consumer protection division of attorney Generals Office what has happened and request an investigation. You can hire a title company to repair the title.
Just curious but how much of this story are you leaving out? Because you say that “this was someone who pretended to be a close friend of mine and gained my trust.” As well as “I never suspected they would go to the lengths he went to….” And that sounds very much like something else happened which is not part of this post. You’re not fucked……as long as you get a lawyer and the police involved, and tell them everything not just that half assed cryptic stuff. They need to know if this person ever had you sign anything and they need to know exactly what “the lengths this person went to” in this context means.
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Someone filed for unemployment under my information. I filed a fraud report last week and called my state's (NJ) Department of Labor and reported it there too. I am still receiving letters from the DOL surrounding my "unemployment claim". Is there anything else I can do? Not sure if this is the right sub to post this but long story short, I got a letter from my state's (NJ) Department of Labor claiming I had filed for unemployment on June 26 of this year. Since I am employed and have been so by the same company for 2+ years, I first went on the DOL website and filed a fraud report, and then I called the number and told the representative about the fraud as well and she "flagged" my file herself (according to her words). Just today though, I received a letter in the mail saying I had to attend a mandatory phone interview sometime in August with a one-on-one career coach designed to help me get back to work quickly, and that if I don't attend this meeting it will result in the suspension of my unemployment benefits. While I don't care for attending this meeting or if the benefits are suspended (which is what I want ultimately), it sounds like my unemployment claim is still open and is disbursing unemployment to whoever is collecting it? So my question is, is there anything I can do other than just reporting it as fraud and calling them to make sure this unemployment claim goes away? The last thing I want is to be held financially responsible for returning the unemployment money plus any penalties for falsely collecting benefits. I also reported it to my employer as I know that an employer can see who claims what when they review their quarterly unemployment insurance charges. Thanks.
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I'd attend the call-in if you can and explain to them that you're a fraud victim. It doesn't surprise me that the system hasn't caught up with your original report.
So, I had to deal with this last year. I've been employed at the same place a long time, and thieves not only filed twice for UI in my home state, they also filed in another state I never set foot in. They also set up a checking account in my name for direct deposit. Long story short, I know they got $2500 set to a pre-paid card that was sent to my address, that I don't know now that I think about it, UI ever took back. I managed to speak with the fraud invistgator about 9 months later, and there was thousands more I didn't know about. Long story short, they knew it wasn't me, and promised they weren't coming after me for it. But they are so backed up in every single state, expect it to be months before anyone responds. I kept a thick ass file on everything. I sent emails I faxed letters I mailed letters I kept police reports I froze my Chex report for the checking account. I kept all correspondence with the bank about the fake checking account. I notified the IRS, my state department of Treasury, and social security of the fraud. All preemptively. So far, no one has sent me a 1099 for taxes, tried to collect money back, or the IRS hassle me for taxes on the amount. The state has assured me that they will not attempt to collect and it won't be an issue if I ever need to actually file for UI. Cover your butt. Email and fax everyone. Multiple times. Every letter you receive, every letter you send, everything you email, every debt card, every report, I mean everything..and keep it forever... No one at UI is going to call you back. No one is going to answer emails, nothing will be communicated. If your lucky, you're going to get one call months later, and that's it. Just document and cover every imaginable basis you can. That's all you can do.
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Someone filed for unemployment under my information. I filed a fraud report last week and called my state's (NJ) Department of Labor and reported it there too. I am still receiving letters from the DOL surrounding my "unemployment claim". Is there anything else I can do? Not sure if this is the right sub to post this but long story short, I got a letter from my state's (NJ) Department of Labor claiming I had filed for unemployment on June 26 of this year. Since I am employed and have been so by the same company for 2+ years, I first went on the DOL website and filed a fraud report, and then I called the number and told the representative about the fraud as well and she "flagged" my file herself (according to her words). Just today though, I received a letter in the mail saying I had to attend a mandatory phone interview sometime in August with a one-on-one career coach designed to help me get back to work quickly, and that if I don't attend this meeting it will result in the suspension of my unemployment benefits. While I don't care for attending this meeting or if the benefits are suspended (which is what I want ultimately), it sounds like my unemployment claim is still open and is disbursing unemployment to whoever is collecting it? So my question is, is there anything I can do other than just reporting it as fraud and calling them to make sure this unemployment claim goes away? The last thing I want is to be held financially responsible for returning the unemployment money plus any penalties for falsely collecting benefits. I also reported it to my employer as I know that an employer can see who claims what when they review their quarterly unemployment insurance charges. Thanks.
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Put a credit freeze with all three credit companies. Transunion, Equifax and Experian. Call your local police and file a report. And file a report with the social security administration.
There has been billions in unemployment benefits fraud since the Pandemic started. You have syndicates outside of America who filed and received billions in PUA and other benefits. NYC was a big target. In addition to reporting this to NJ agencies, go to IdentityTheft.gov to report the fraud to the FTC. https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/pr/new-jersey-man-charged-fraudulently-obtaining-unemployment-insurance-benefits
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Someone filed for unemployment under my information. I filed a fraud report last week and called my state's (NJ) Department of Labor and reported it there too. I am still receiving letters from the DOL surrounding my "unemployment claim". Is there anything else I can do? Not sure if this is the right sub to post this but long story short, I got a letter from my state's (NJ) Department of Labor claiming I had filed for unemployment on June 26 of this year. Since I am employed and have been so by the same company for 2+ years, I first went on the DOL website and filed a fraud report, and then I called the number and told the representative about the fraud as well and she "flagged" my file herself (according to her words). Just today though, I received a letter in the mail saying I had to attend a mandatory phone interview sometime in August with a one-on-one career coach designed to help me get back to work quickly, and that if I don't attend this meeting it will result in the suspension of my unemployment benefits. While I don't care for attending this meeting or if the benefits are suspended (which is what I want ultimately), it sounds like my unemployment claim is still open and is disbursing unemployment to whoever is collecting it? So my question is, is there anything I can do other than just reporting it as fraud and calling them to make sure this unemployment claim goes away? The last thing I want is to be held financially responsible for returning the unemployment money plus any penalties for falsely collecting benefits. I also reported it to my employer as I know that an employer can see who claims what when they review their quarterly unemployment insurance charges. Thanks.
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Beauracracy takes more than a week to resolve itself.
Put a credit freeze with all three credit companies. Transunion, Equifax and Experian. Call your local police and file a report. And file a report with the social security administration.
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Someone filed for unemployment under my information. I filed a fraud report last week and called my state's (NJ) Department of Labor and reported it there too. I am still receiving letters from the DOL surrounding my "unemployment claim". Is there anything else I can do? Not sure if this is the right sub to post this but long story short, I got a letter from my state's (NJ) Department of Labor claiming I had filed for unemployment on June 26 of this year. Since I am employed and have been so by the same company for 2+ years, I first went on the DOL website and filed a fraud report, and then I called the number and told the representative about the fraud as well and she "flagged" my file herself (according to her words). Just today though, I received a letter in the mail saying I had to attend a mandatory phone interview sometime in August with a one-on-one career coach designed to help me get back to work quickly, and that if I don't attend this meeting it will result in the suspension of my unemployment benefits. While I don't care for attending this meeting or if the benefits are suspended (which is what I want ultimately), it sounds like my unemployment claim is still open and is disbursing unemployment to whoever is collecting it? So my question is, is there anything I can do other than just reporting it as fraud and calling them to make sure this unemployment claim goes away? The last thing I want is to be held financially responsible for returning the unemployment money plus any penalties for falsely collecting benefits. I also reported it to my employer as I know that an employer can see who claims what when they review their quarterly unemployment insurance charges. Thanks.
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Male sure to lock your credit reports now. All 3. You may want to check your credit reports as well.
Keep track of everything you've sent and received pertaining to this, including phone calls, and see about making a log of dates, what type of contact, and with whom, just in case. Reach out to the unemployment office if you haven't (not sure if that's in the DOL in NJ; in my state it's a separate entity) to report the fraud. In my state, that's really all you've got to to, tell them someone has fraudulently filed an unemployment claim under your name, and anytime you receive anything pertaining to the fraudulent claim after you inform them. My local unemployment office has a drop box out front (because they're not open to the public yet) and they literally just have you write on the letters you've received saying it's a fraudulent claim and that you're not unemployed, but if it were me, I'd also keep a copy for myself. Admittedly, I'm not sure what info of yours they'd need to file the claim (obviously name and address), but if it includes having your social security number or any other private identifying information, I'd make sure to lock down any access they may have to using said info (like with the credit bureaus, if they have your SSN). I happen to work in the same office building as my local unemployment office so I only know this info second hand from seeing folks come in saying they got letters, like you did, where someone filed unemployment with their name and address - it's happening A LOT with all the covid-related job loss and whatnot. Unfortunately, this means that this is about the full extent of my knowledge. If they ARE a separate entity from DOL and if you haven't already contacted them specifically, here's the website. NJ unemployment website
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Someone filed for unemployment under my information. I filed a fraud report last week and called my state's (NJ) Department of Labor and reported it there too. I am still receiving letters from the DOL surrounding my "unemployment claim". Is there anything else I can do? Not sure if this is the right sub to post this but long story short, I got a letter from my state's (NJ) Department of Labor claiming I had filed for unemployment on June 26 of this year. Since I am employed and have been so by the same company for 2+ years, I first went on the DOL website and filed a fraud report, and then I called the number and told the representative about the fraud as well and she "flagged" my file herself (according to her words). Just today though, I received a letter in the mail saying I had to attend a mandatory phone interview sometime in August with a one-on-one career coach designed to help me get back to work quickly, and that if I don't attend this meeting it will result in the suspension of my unemployment benefits. While I don't care for attending this meeting or if the benefits are suspended (which is what I want ultimately), it sounds like my unemployment claim is still open and is disbursing unemployment to whoever is collecting it? So my question is, is there anything I can do other than just reporting it as fraud and calling them to make sure this unemployment claim goes away? The last thing I want is to be held financially responsible for returning the unemployment money plus any penalties for falsely collecting benefits. I also reported it to my employer as I know that an employer can see who claims what when they review their quarterly unemployment insurance charges. Thanks.
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Keep track of everything you've sent and received pertaining to this, including phone calls, and see about making a log of dates, what type of contact, and with whom, just in case. Reach out to the unemployment office if you haven't (not sure if that's in the DOL in NJ; in my state it's a separate entity) to report the fraud. In my state, that's really all you've got to to, tell them someone has fraudulently filed an unemployment claim under your name, and anytime you receive anything pertaining to the fraudulent claim after you inform them. My local unemployment office has a drop box out front (because they're not open to the public yet) and they literally just have you write on the letters you've received saying it's a fraudulent claim and that you're not unemployed, but if it were me, I'd also keep a copy for myself. Admittedly, I'm not sure what info of yours they'd need to file the claim (obviously name and address), but if it includes having your social security number or any other private identifying information, I'd make sure to lock down any access they may have to using said info (like with the credit bureaus, if they have your SSN). I happen to work in the same office building as my local unemployment office so I only know this info second hand from seeing folks come in saying they got letters, like you did, where someone filed unemployment with their name and address - it's happening A LOT with all the covid-related job loss and whatnot. Unfortunately, this means that this is about the full extent of my knowledge. If they ARE a separate entity from DOL and if you haven't already contacted them specifically, here's the website. NJ unemployment website
I work at a bank and have helped more than a dozen people in the last month with this same situation. Go to identitytheft.gov and you’ll find a checklist of everything you’ll need to do, along with websites and/or phone numbers.
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Stray horse I’ve been taking care of for over 2 months — legally can someone come forward and claim him. About two months ago a horse just showed up in the pasture with the cows. We asked around and even put him on social media. No one has claimed him. We have fed him, housed him and now I’m about to drop a lot of money on vet bills (he has a limp). If the owner comes forward after all the money we have spent on him, do we have any legal rights to keep him or do we hand him over. I’m really attached and love him. (Texas)
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The owner is entitled to claim their horse if they find it, but you are entitled to be reimbursed for your expenses incurred in caring for it.
You are not the rightful owner of the horse. Have you contacted the police or local animal control? They may have a process by which you may be able to find a path to ownership after a certain time
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Stray horse I’ve been taking care of for over 2 months — legally can someone come forward and claim him. About two months ago a horse just showed up in the pasture with the cows. We asked around and even put him on social media. No one has claimed him. We have fed him, housed him and now I’m about to drop a lot of money on vet bills (he has a limp). If the owner comes forward after all the money we have spent on him, do we have any legal rights to keep him or do we hand him over. I’m really attached and love him. (Texas)
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Not a lawyer but I found this on Texas.gov: “Sec. 142.004. REDEMPTION. (a) The owner of the estray may redeem the estray from the owner or occupant of public or private property if: (1) the owner of the estray and the owner or occupant of the property agree to a redemption payment amount and the owner or occupant of the property receives the redemption payment from the owner of the estray; or (2) a justice court having jurisdiction determines the redemption payment amount and gives the owner of the estray written authority to redeem the estray under Section 142.006.” I assume the horse isn’t branded or microchipped? Was it lame when you first discovered it? My thought is someone dumped this horse once they determined it wasn’t worth treating the cause of lameness.
You are not the rightful owner of the horse. Have you contacted the police or local animal control? They may have a process by which you may be able to find a path to ownership after a certain time
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I took my roommate to small claims and won. I think I have a check at the courthouse but I’m unsure. Hello! So I sued my roommate in Indiana (Bartholomew county, specifically). I took her to small claims over some rent issues. I received a paper in the mail that says as follows: “ The Bartholomew county clerks office has received and is holding the above payment in your suit (and it lists the total I won, $1095). In order for this payment to be distributed, please provide our office with an interest statement or release of judgment within 30 days of the day above.” The last sentence is what I’m confused on. It continues on: “ to be in compliance with small claims rule number 11, the designated representative, must sign the satisfaction in the judgment docket. Further, we will not accept fax copies of the satisfaction of judgment. Please have a designated representative bring this letter to the clerks office to sign off the judgment or mail the release of judgment to the above address”. So I’m a bit confused as to what I need to bring with me. Thank you!
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They want a document known as a Satisfaction of Judgement. You can probably find templates on the court's website. This is a document that says "the defendant has already paid me for this judgement". Signing it and filing it with the court means that you're telling the court that you have received the money and you're done.
Bring that letter to the courthouse. You don't need to print off any forms, etc. This is small claims court. Part of the fee you paid includes providing you with these forms and information about how to complete them correctly. And congrats!
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I won a small claims judgement, and now the company has changed their name Location: Los Angeles I won a small claims judgement against my landlord a little over a month ago. Small overview: The landlord was a corporation they failed to appear to court two times; on the second court hearing the judge allowed me to present my evidence and a few weeks later received the letter telling me I won my judgement. The company that served my papers initially offered to collect my judgement ($8,000 + ) for 40%, I thought this was very steep, so I held off on collecting as I looked for other service providers. The new collector I am speaking with was having a hard time finding the corporations info in the Secretary of State website, but found another company named with the same address; So I looked up the companies online portal and low-and-behold they changed the company name. Is this common? Are they trying to pull a fast one to get out of paying me my judgement? Or do you think it was just a coincidence? Also: Is 40% normal for collectors ? How does that even make sense, what if my judgement was $500, they’d do the same amount of legwork for a $500 judgement as they would do for a $8000 judgement?
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Attorney, not yours, not from CA, not advice. An entity can change their name, but they're still the same entity. However, if they dissolved the entity and started a new one, then they are different. However would still be liable, likely, as a reach and apply defendant. However, your state should have a statute on winding down a corporation. The officers would, almost certainly, be personally liable for closing an entity and not setting aside resources to cover liabilities (to the extent possible given corporate resources). Dissolved corporations should not disappear from the secretary of states database. I suppose your state could be different, but from a business and legal standpoint, it wouldn't make sense.
Percentage-based solutions are very common in these kinds of things (no different than an injury lawyer getting a flat 30% to up to 42% should they go to trial). Also usually the higher dollar amounts do require extra work, the higher the amounts the more the person will fight to avoid contact/payment. Getting someone to pay a judgement can be very difficult, and 40% does seem steep, but you won't know what's normal without contacting a few such agencies. There are also companies out there that will buy judgements at a discount and work to collect them themselves for the full remaining value. It's always best to try to work this out yourself first and then call in the pros should those efforts fail.
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I won a small claims judgement, and now the company has changed their name Location: Los Angeles I won a small claims judgement against my landlord a little over a month ago. Small overview: The landlord was a corporation they failed to appear to court two times; on the second court hearing the judge allowed me to present my evidence and a few weeks later received the letter telling me I won my judgement. The company that served my papers initially offered to collect my judgement ($8,000 + ) for 40%, I thought this was very steep, so I held off on collecting as I looked for other service providers. The new collector I am speaking with was having a hard time finding the corporations info in the Secretary of State website, but found another company named with the same address; So I looked up the companies online portal and low-and-behold they changed the company name. Is this common? Are they trying to pull a fast one to get out of paying me my judgement? Or do you think it was just a coincidence? Also: Is 40% normal for collectors ? How does that even make sense, what if my judgement was $500, they’d do the same amount of legwork for a $500 judgement as they would do for a $8000 judgement?
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Percentage-based solutions are very common in these kinds of things (no different than an injury lawyer getting a flat 30% to up to 42% should they go to trial). Also usually the higher dollar amounts do require extra work, the higher the amounts the more the person will fight to avoid contact/payment. Getting someone to pay a judgement can be very difficult, and 40% does seem steep, but you won't know what's normal without contacting a few such agencies. There are also companies out there that will buy judgements at a discount and work to collect them themselves for the full remaining value. It's always best to try to work this out yourself first and then call in the pros should those efforts fail.
You should be able to find their records on the state database even if they’ve dissolved/cancelled their registration. Here is the CA business database: https://bizfileonline.sos.ca.gov/search/business You will be able to see all of their filings there. If you need help searching, you can try reaching out to the LA Law Library: https://www.lalawlibrary.org/component/k2/lawyers-in-the-library-2021-2022 consult with a reference librarian by email at [email protected], via live chat service at https://calcountylawlib.libanswers.com, or by phone at 213-785-2513.
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I won a small claims judgement, and now the company has changed their name Location: Los Angeles I won a small claims judgement against my landlord a little over a month ago. Small overview: The landlord was a corporation they failed to appear to court two times; on the second court hearing the judge allowed me to present my evidence and a few weeks later received the letter telling me I won my judgement. The company that served my papers initially offered to collect my judgement ($8,000 + ) for 40%, I thought this was very steep, so I held off on collecting as I looked for other service providers. The new collector I am speaking with was having a hard time finding the corporations info in the Secretary of State website, but found another company named with the same address; So I looked up the companies online portal and low-and-behold they changed the company name. Is this common? Are they trying to pull a fast one to get out of paying me my judgement? Or do you think it was just a coincidence? Also: Is 40% normal for collectors ? How does that even make sense, what if my judgement was $500, they’d do the same amount of legwork for a $500 judgement as they would do for a $8000 judgement?
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Not a lawyer but the percentage is very much dependent on the collection company's idea of collection difficulty . For the ones that buy the debt outright , the fee can vary widely. We've sold some hard to collect ones for a 70% fee because 30% beats nothing. Source: backoffice at a company that offers net 30.
Attorney, not yours, not from CA, not advice. An entity can change their name, but they're still the same entity. However, if they dissolved the entity and started a new one, then they are different. However would still be liable, likely, as a reach and apply defendant. However, your state should have a statute on winding down a corporation. The officers would, almost certainly, be personally liable for closing an entity and not setting aside resources to cover liabilities (to the extent possible given corporate resources). Dissolved corporations should not disappear from the secretary of states database. I suppose your state could be different, but from a business and legal standpoint, it wouldn't make sense.
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I won a small claims judgement, and now the company has changed their name Location: Los Angeles I won a small claims judgement against my landlord a little over a month ago. Small overview: The landlord was a corporation they failed to appear to court two times; on the second court hearing the judge allowed me to present my evidence and a few weeks later received the letter telling me I won my judgement. The company that served my papers initially offered to collect my judgement ($8,000 + ) for 40%, I thought this was very steep, so I held off on collecting as I looked for other service providers. The new collector I am speaking with was having a hard time finding the corporations info in the Secretary of State website, but found another company named with the same address; So I looked up the companies online portal and low-and-behold they changed the company name. Is this common? Are they trying to pull a fast one to get out of paying me my judgement? Or do you think it was just a coincidence? Also: Is 40% normal for collectors ? How does that even make sense, what if my judgement was $500, they’d do the same amount of legwork for a $500 judgement as they would do for a $8000 judgement?
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You should be able to find their records on the state database even if they’ve dissolved/cancelled their registration. Here is the CA business database: https://bizfileonline.sos.ca.gov/search/business You will be able to see all of their filings there. If you need help searching, you can try reaching out to the LA Law Library: https://www.lalawlibrary.org/component/k2/lawyers-in-the-library-2021-2022 consult with a reference librarian by email at [email protected], via live chat service at https://calcountylawlib.libanswers.com, or by phone at 213-785-2513.
Not a lawyer but the percentage is very much dependent on the collection company's idea of collection difficulty . For the ones that buy the debt outright , the fee can vary widely. We've sold some hard to collect ones for a 70% fee because 30% beats nothing. Source: backoffice at a company that offers net 30.
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Previous employer lied on the reference and said I didn’t resign and instead didn’t turn up for 3 months and to NOT hire me This is actually for my partner. He worked at a place for 1.5 years with multiple roles and lots of experience. He resigned normally and his 3 bosses were aware of it. He was a casual. Now nearly 2 years later we just found out that they are saying in his background check that he didn’t work for 3 months, ghosted them and was terminated. That is completely untrue and we have evidence from his previous bosses that he did resign normally. It also explicitly says in the reference to NOT hire him. His current employer also found out about it which looks really bad and could have also affected his job search. What can we do? His contract is also ending in a month so he needs to find a new job very soon and is scared this will affect him.
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contact an attorney and have them send a cease and desist order. he can potentially have them held accountable for slander and libel.
If what you say is true … if … then this actionable. Get an employment lawyer. How do you know this is true?
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Previous employer lied on the reference and said I didn’t resign and instead didn’t turn up for 3 months and to NOT hire me This is actually for my partner. He worked at a place for 1.5 years with multiple roles and lots of experience. He resigned normally and his 3 bosses were aware of it. He was a casual. Now nearly 2 years later we just found out that they are saying in his background check that he didn’t work for 3 months, ghosted them and was terminated. That is completely untrue and we have evidence from his previous bosses that he did resign normally. It also explicitly says in the reference to NOT hire him. His current employer also found out about it which looks really bad and could have also affected his job search. What can we do? His contract is also ending in a month so he needs to find a new job very soon and is scared this will affect him.
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If what you say is true … if … then this actionable. Get an employment lawyer. How do you know this is true?
What is your location? In my state this is the law: >Liability immunity—Disclosure of employee information to prospective employer. (1) An employer who discloses information about a former or current employee to a prospective employer, or employment agency as defined by [redacted], at the specific request of that individual employer or employment agency, is presumed to be acting in good faith and is immune from civil and criminal liability for such disclosure or its consequences if the disclosed information relates to: (a) The employee's ability to perform his or her job; (b) the diligence, skill, or reliability with which the employee carried out the duties of his or her job; or (c) any illegal or wrongful act committed by the employee when related to the duties of his or her job. (2) The employer should retain a written record of the identity of the person or entity to which information is disclosed under this section for a minimum of two years from the date of disclosure. The employee or former employee has a right to inspect any such written record upon request and any such written record shall become part of the employee's personnel file, subject to the provisions of chapter [redacted]. (3) For the purposes of this section, the presumption of good faith may only be rebutted upon a showing by clear and convincing evidence that the information disclosed by the employer was knowingly false, deliberately misleading, or made with reckless disregard for the truth.
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Previous employer lied on the reference and said I didn’t resign and instead didn’t turn up for 3 months and to NOT hire me This is actually for my partner. He worked at a place for 1.5 years with multiple roles and lots of experience. He resigned normally and his 3 bosses were aware of it. He was a casual. Now nearly 2 years later we just found out that they are saying in his background check that he didn’t work for 3 months, ghosted them and was terminated. That is completely untrue and we have evidence from his previous bosses that he did resign normally. It also explicitly says in the reference to NOT hire him. His current employer also found out about it which looks really bad and could have also affected his job search. What can we do? His contract is also ending in a month so he needs to find a new job very soon and is scared this will affect him.
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1. Nothing. 2. Find an employment attorney and sue old place.
If what you say is true … if … then this actionable. Get an employment lawyer. How do you know this is true?
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Previous employer lied on the reference and said I didn’t resign and instead didn’t turn up for 3 months and to NOT hire me This is actually for my partner. He worked at a place for 1.5 years with multiple roles and lots of experience. He resigned normally and his 3 bosses were aware of it. He was a casual. Now nearly 2 years later we just found out that they are saying in his background check that he didn’t work for 3 months, ghosted them and was terminated. That is completely untrue and we have evidence from his previous bosses that he did resign normally. It also explicitly says in the reference to NOT hire him. His current employer also found out about it which looks really bad and could have also affected his job search. What can we do? His contract is also ending in a month so he needs to find a new job very soon and is scared this will affect him.
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What is your location? In my state this is the law: >Liability immunity—Disclosure of employee information to prospective employer. (1) An employer who discloses information about a former or current employee to a prospective employer, or employment agency as defined by [redacted], at the specific request of that individual employer or employment agency, is presumed to be acting in good faith and is immune from civil and criminal liability for such disclosure or its consequences if the disclosed information relates to: (a) The employee's ability to perform his or her job; (b) the diligence, skill, or reliability with which the employee carried out the duties of his or her job; or (c) any illegal or wrongful act committed by the employee when related to the duties of his or her job. (2) The employer should retain a written record of the identity of the person or entity to which information is disclosed under this section for a minimum of two years from the date of disclosure. The employee or former employee has a right to inspect any such written record upon request and any such written record shall become part of the employee's personnel file, subject to the provisions of chapter [redacted]. (3) For the purposes of this section, the presumption of good faith may only be rebutted upon a showing by clear and convincing evidence that the information disclosed by the employer was knowingly false, deliberately misleading, or made with reckless disregard for the truth.
contact an attorney and have them send a cease and desist order. he can potentially have them held accountable for slander and libel.
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Previous employer lied on the reference and said I didn’t resign and instead didn’t turn up for 3 months and to NOT hire me This is actually for my partner. He worked at a place for 1.5 years with multiple roles and lots of experience. He resigned normally and his 3 bosses were aware of it. He was a casual. Now nearly 2 years later we just found out that they are saying in his background check that he didn’t work for 3 months, ghosted them and was terminated. That is completely untrue and we have evidence from his previous bosses that he did resign normally. It also explicitly says in the reference to NOT hire him. His current employer also found out about it which looks really bad and could have also affected his job search. What can we do? His contract is also ending in a month so he needs to find a new job very soon and is scared this will affect him.
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contact an attorney and have them send a cease and desist order. he can potentially have them held accountable for slander and libel.
1. Nothing. 2. Find an employment attorney and sue old place.
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Real estate agent charging me fee and accusing me of finding a tenant behind her back even though no tenant contract signed or tenant found. In Quebec, Canada. We hired a real estate to help us find a tenant for a condo we own, since we now live out of the province. We signed a 6 month contract stating that she has exclusivity in showing the apartment, has the right to show the apartment with 24hr notice, etc. It states that we are allowed to terminate the contract. We agreed that if she finds a 12-month tenant she would get one month's rent (1800$) and also (not wise of us) one month's rent every year the tenant renews the lease. For a few months we did not get many interested customers. We found out a friend of ours needed a place to stay due to an unrelated situation so we offered our place since it was vacant, but with the caveat that she would have to move out on short notice if ever we found a tenant. She agreed and was very helpful to the real estate agent, even opening the door for potential tenants and helping the agent show the place. We lowered the price to 1650$ and eventually got an offer from a potential tenant for 1500$. We wanted to take it so we spoke to our friend who was living at the condo regarding moving out and details. Our friend then informed us that she was in a very financially precarious position and practically begged us to let her stay for a few months. Since she's a good friend we were more than happy to help her out so we decided to change our minds about the offer and refuse it and take the condo off the rental market for at least a few months. The real estate agent got very angry, replied with quite unprofessional statements ("you may be running a charity, but Im running a business and Im out some $$$"), she accused us of finding a tenant behind her back and that we're violating the contract we signed. We replied that we changed our minds about putting the condo on the market and reassured her that we didnt find a tenant independently and that our friend is not paying us. The real estate agent had the agency send an invoice for 1500$+tax, even though she wouldve only gotten 750$ (the buyer side had an agent, who wouldve taken half) minus the percentage she owes to the agency. There was no background check or credit check that had been done on this potential tenant. Nothing signed. **Do we owe the agent/agency anything?** I admit she did show the condo a few times so there was some work done, and Id be willing to pay her 200$ or so for the work done but otherwise I dont think we should be paying the full amount, especially if no tenant contract was signed. **Have we violated the contract?** It states that we can terminate it and that's exactly what we've done. It's our condo and we can change our mind about it at any point, no? Does the fact that our friend now lives there change anything? **What would be the next course of action?** I was thinking of calling/emailing the agency and state that we disagree with this invoice and we will not be paying it. Is that how we should go about it? Thank you very much for reading and for your thoughts!! TL;DR: Real estate agent gets pissed that we took down our condo from the market right when we got an offer, because we're letting our friend stay there during a tough time. Agent charged us the full amount even though obligations of the contract were not fulfilled.
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Not a lawyer, but have worked with many property management/real estate agents. And, again, the legal side is going to depend on the exact wording of your contract. So, perhaps I can offer an alternative point of view. 1) You commissioned, under contract, an agent to find you a tenant. Which they did. That is a service rendered, and they deserve to be paid for the work they did. It sounds like they did multiple showings, advertising and negotiations on your behalf. This was probably a couple dozen hours work. 2) it sounds like you will be in breech of contract. Regardless if you are collecting rent or not, you effectively found your own tenant becuase the condo is no longer available to rent, ergo you have forced out the agent which is something you agreed not to do. 3) on moral grounds, despite helping a friend out, you have put someone else out of a job, robbed them of their time, and pulled $750 out of their wallet. good luck.
She did her job and found you a tenant. No one can be sure without reading the contract but you very likely owe her the full amount. She may have to split the commission with the buyer's agent but that is for her to manage. You should not be writing a separate check to the buyers agent. If your friend is staying in the apartment with no end date in sight you should get her a lease with a monthly cost and terms anyway, even if you give her the friends and family rate on the apartment. Or come back in a few months asking for advice on evicting a freeloading friend.
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Tenant is moving in upstairs after I have lived in the building for 2 years, landlord is trying to have us split the utilities 50/50 The state is Pennsylvania. I have lived in the downstairs unit of this building for 2 years while they have been “renovating” the floors above us. It seemed like not much work had been done but apparently the landlord has 3 people ready to move in upstairs in a month. Currently it is me and my partner in the downstairs apartment and this seems weird to us to be splitting the utilities 50/50 with these people. Especially since there are 3 people instead of 2 in our apartment. Landlord’s reasoning is “her electrician died recently” and “not sure when we can separate the meters”. Currently we pay the landlord for all utilities which are in their name. After some brief research I’ve found a pdf on equalhousing.org which says the landlord needs to separate meters or else they are responsible for the costs. I sent the landlord this link and said I do not agree to separating bills 50/50. We signed the lease to renew months ago and it just started this month. Any advise?
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There is a bigger problem you have. There's more than electricity that needs split. You also have water, gas, and possibly trash + sewer (if it bills separate from water). I'm not sure how trash is handled, but also might need split (two separate bins, one for you and one for them). Code enforcement would love to talk with your landlord. He cannot rent it as two separate units when there is only one meter for each UNLESS he is paying for the utilities and they're bundled in the lease agreement.
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Tenant is moving in upstairs after I have lived in the building for 2 years, landlord is trying to have us split the utilities 50/50 The state is Pennsylvania. I have lived in the downstairs unit of this building for 2 years while they have been “renovating” the floors above us. It seemed like not much work had been done but apparently the landlord has 3 people ready to move in upstairs in a month. Currently it is me and my partner in the downstairs apartment and this seems weird to us to be splitting the utilities 50/50 with these people. Especially since there are 3 people instead of 2 in our apartment. Landlord’s reasoning is “her electrician died recently” and “not sure when we can separate the meters”. Currently we pay the landlord for all utilities which are in their name. After some brief research I’ve found a pdf on equalhousing.org which says the landlord needs to separate meters or else they are responsible for the costs. I sent the landlord this link and said I do not agree to separating bills 50/50. We signed the lease to renew months ago and it just started this month. Any advise?
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I am willing to bet that you personally paid a lot for the electricity used during renovations.
Reading through the comments and your replies, I think it comes down to three options for you: 1) You point out the laws, perhaps get copies from your local tenant's right organization or find them on your own, and refuse to pay any utilities. And make sure any utilities in your name are put in landlord's name if they are not separately metered. 2) You agree with what landlord wants just to keep the peace even though the landlord is violating the law and taking advantage of you - or at least possibly taking advantage of you, or 3) The landlord says they want to talk. Negotiate. Perhaps suggest to landlord that they agree to cover all of the utilities and increase the rent equal to something like your average utility cost for last year.
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Tenant is moving in upstairs after I have lived in the building for 2 years, landlord is trying to have us split the utilities 50/50 The state is Pennsylvania. I have lived in the downstairs unit of this building for 2 years while they have been “renovating” the floors above us. It seemed like not much work had been done but apparently the landlord has 3 people ready to move in upstairs in a month. Currently it is me and my partner in the downstairs apartment and this seems weird to us to be splitting the utilities 50/50 with these people. Especially since there are 3 people instead of 2 in our apartment. Landlord’s reasoning is “her electrician died recently” and “not sure when we can separate the meters”. Currently we pay the landlord for all utilities which are in their name. After some brief research I’ve found a pdf on equalhousing.org which says the landlord needs to separate meters or else they are responsible for the costs. I sent the landlord this link and said I do not agree to separating bills 50/50. We signed the lease to renew months ago and it just started this month. Any advise?
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Cite the legal statute requiring your landlord to have separate meters or pay all the costs in the next email, with the code numbers and everything. State that further attempts to coerce and extort money from you due to their failure to understand their rights and obligations as the landlord will be considered harassment and reported to the authorities. Your landlord is trying to shake you down for money because they don’t think the law applies to them. Call local code enforcement and report your landlord is trying to move people into a unit without proper electrical meters or properly separate water. Write your local paper about it and include copies of the emails- it’s not slander if it’s true.
Reading through the comments and your replies, I think it comes down to three options for you: 1) You point out the laws, perhaps get copies from your local tenant's right organization or find them on your own, and refuse to pay any utilities. And make sure any utilities in your name are put in landlord's name if they are not separately metered. 2) You agree with what landlord wants just to keep the peace even though the landlord is violating the law and taking advantage of you - or at least possibly taking advantage of you, or 3) The landlord says they want to talk. Negotiate. Perhaps suggest to landlord that they agree to cover all of the utilities and increase the rent equal to something like your average utility cost for last year.
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Tenant is moving in upstairs after I have lived in the building for 2 years, landlord is trying to have us split the utilities 50/50 The state is Pennsylvania. I have lived in the downstairs unit of this building for 2 years while they have been “renovating” the floors above us. It seemed like not much work had been done but apparently the landlord has 3 people ready to move in upstairs in a month. Currently it is me and my partner in the downstairs apartment and this seems weird to us to be splitting the utilities 50/50 with these people. Especially since there are 3 people instead of 2 in our apartment. Landlord’s reasoning is “her electrician died recently” and “not sure when we can separate the meters”. Currently we pay the landlord for all utilities which are in their name. After some brief research I’ve found a pdf on equalhousing.org which says the landlord needs to separate meters or else they are responsible for the costs. I sent the landlord this link and said I do not agree to separating bills 50/50. We signed the lease to renew months ago and it just started this month. Any advise?
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Reading through the comments and your replies, I think it comes down to three options for you: 1) You point out the laws, perhaps get copies from your local tenant's right organization or find them on your own, and refuse to pay any utilities. And make sure any utilities in your name are put in landlord's name if they are not separately metered. 2) You agree with what landlord wants just to keep the peace even though the landlord is violating the law and taking advantage of you - or at least possibly taking advantage of you, or 3) The landlord says they want to talk. Negotiate. Perhaps suggest to landlord that they agree to cover all of the utilities and increase the rent equal to something like your average utility cost for last year.
Note too that electricity rates can vary depending on time of day and total usage. So using "twice as much electricity" could mean paying more than double. Do you have records of how much you've used and paid for the last two years?
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Tenant is moving in upstairs after I have lived in the building for 2 years, landlord is trying to have us split the utilities 50/50 The state is Pennsylvania. I have lived in the downstairs unit of this building for 2 years while they have been “renovating” the floors above us. It seemed like not much work had been done but apparently the landlord has 3 people ready to move in upstairs in a month. Currently it is me and my partner in the downstairs apartment and this seems weird to us to be splitting the utilities 50/50 with these people. Especially since there are 3 people instead of 2 in our apartment. Landlord’s reasoning is “her electrician died recently” and “not sure when we can separate the meters”. Currently we pay the landlord for all utilities which are in their name. After some brief research I’ve found a pdf on equalhousing.org which says the landlord needs to separate meters or else they are responsible for the costs. I sent the landlord this link and said I do not agree to separating bills 50/50. We signed the lease to renew months ago and it just started this month. Any advise?
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Reading through the comments and your replies, I think it comes down to three options for you: 1) You point out the laws, perhaps get copies from your local tenant's right organization or find them on your own, and refuse to pay any utilities. And make sure any utilities in your name are put in landlord's name if they are not separately metered. 2) You agree with what landlord wants just to keep the peace even though the landlord is violating the law and taking advantage of you - or at least possibly taking advantage of you, or 3) The landlord says they want to talk. Negotiate. Perhaps suggest to landlord that they agree to cover all of the utilities and increase the rent equal to something like your average utility cost for last year.
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Tenant is moving in upstairs after I have lived in the building for 2 years, landlord is trying to have us split the utilities 50/50 The state is Pennsylvania. I have lived in the downstairs unit of this building for 2 years while they have been “renovating” the floors above us. It seemed like not much work had been done but apparently the landlord has 3 people ready to move in upstairs in a month. Currently it is me and my partner in the downstairs apartment and this seems weird to us to be splitting the utilities 50/50 with these people. Especially since there are 3 people instead of 2 in our apartment. Landlord’s reasoning is “her electrician died recently” and “not sure when we can separate the meters”. Currently we pay the landlord for all utilities which are in their name. After some brief research I’ve found a pdf on equalhousing.org which says the landlord needs to separate meters or else they are responsible for the costs. I sent the landlord this link and said I do not agree to separating bills 50/50. We signed the lease to renew months ago and it just started this month. Any advise?
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I am willing to bet that you personally paid a lot for the electricity used during renovations.
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Tenant is moving in upstairs after I have lived in the building for 2 years, landlord is trying to have us split the utilities 50/50 The state is Pennsylvania. I have lived in the downstairs unit of this building for 2 years while they have been “renovating” the floors above us. It seemed like not much work had been done but apparently the landlord has 3 people ready to move in upstairs in a month. Currently it is me and my partner in the downstairs apartment and this seems weird to us to be splitting the utilities 50/50 with these people. Especially since there are 3 people instead of 2 in our apartment. Landlord’s reasoning is “her electrician died recently” and “not sure when we can separate the meters”. Currently we pay the landlord for all utilities which are in their name. After some brief research I’ve found a pdf on equalhousing.org which says the landlord needs to separate meters or else they are responsible for the costs. I sent the landlord this link and said I do not agree to separating bills 50/50. We signed the lease to renew months ago and it just started this month. Any advise?
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Info: what kind of “building” is this? Apartment complex? House? If it’s a house that’s been “converted” from a single family home, they’d have to prove they legally separated the floors into “units.” Otherwise it’s an illegal unit.
Wait, they’ve been renovating and you’re footing the bill for the utilities for that? Sounds to me like you have been getting taken for a while
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Tenant is moving in upstairs after I have lived in the building for 2 years, landlord is trying to have us split the utilities 50/50 The state is Pennsylvania. I have lived in the downstairs unit of this building for 2 years while they have been “renovating” the floors above us. It seemed like not much work had been done but apparently the landlord has 3 people ready to move in upstairs in a month. Currently it is me and my partner in the downstairs apartment and this seems weird to us to be splitting the utilities 50/50 with these people. Especially since there are 3 people instead of 2 in our apartment. Landlord’s reasoning is “her electrician died recently” and “not sure when we can separate the meters”. Currently we pay the landlord for all utilities which are in their name. After some brief research I’ve found a pdf on equalhousing.org which says the landlord needs to separate meters or else they are responsible for the costs. I sent the landlord this link and said I do not agree to separating bills 50/50. We signed the lease to renew months ago and it just started this month. Any advise?
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Wait, they’ve been renovating and you’re footing the bill for the utilities for that? Sounds to me like you have been getting taken for a while
Cite the legal statute requiring your landlord to have separate meters or pay all the costs in the next email, with the code numbers and everything. State that further attempts to coerce and extort money from you due to their failure to understand their rights and obligations as the landlord will be considered harassment and reported to the authorities. Your landlord is trying to shake you down for money because they don’t think the law applies to them. Call local code enforcement and report your landlord is trying to move people into a unit without proper electrical meters or properly separate water. Write your local paper about it and include copies of the emails- it’s not slander if it’s true.
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Tenant is moving in upstairs after I have lived in the building for 2 years, landlord is trying to have us split the utilities 50/50 The state is Pennsylvania. I have lived in the downstairs unit of this building for 2 years while they have been “renovating” the floors above us. It seemed like not much work had been done but apparently the landlord has 3 people ready to move in upstairs in a month. Currently it is me and my partner in the downstairs apartment and this seems weird to us to be splitting the utilities 50/50 with these people. Especially since there are 3 people instead of 2 in our apartment. Landlord’s reasoning is “her electrician died recently” and “not sure when we can separate the meters”. Currently we pay the landlord for all utilities which are in their name. After some brief research I’ve found a pdf on equalhousing.org which says the landlord needs to separate meters or else they are responsible for the costs. I sent the landlord this link and said I do not agree to separating bills 50/50. We signed the lease to renew months ago and it just started this month. Any advise?
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Note too that electricity rates can vary depending on time of day and total usage. So using "twice as much electricity" could mean paying more than double. Do you have records of how much you've used and paid for the last two years?
Wait, they’ve been renovating and you’re footing the bill for the utilities for that? Sounds to me like you have been getting taken for a while
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Tenant is moving in upstairs after I have lived in the building for 2 years, landlord is trying to have us split the utilities 50/50 The state is Pennsylvania. I have lived in the downstairs unit of this building for 2 years while they have been “renovating” the floors above us. It seemed like not much work had been done but apparently the landlord has 3 people ready to move in upstairs in a month. Currently it is me and my partner in the downstairs apartment and this seems weird to us to be splitting the utilities 50/50 with these people. Especially since there are 3 people instead of 2 in our apartment. Landlord’s reasoning is “her electrician died recently” and “not sure when we can separate the meters”. Currently we pay the landlord for all utilities which are in their name. After some brief research I’ve found a pdf on equalhousing.org which says the landlord needs to separate meters or else they are responsible for the costs. I sent the landlord this link and said I do not agree to separating bills 50/50. We signed the lease to renew months ago and it just started this month. Any advise?
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Wait, they’ve been renovating and you’re footing the bill for the utilities for that? Sounds to me like you have been getting taken for a while
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Tenant is moving in upstairs after I have lived in the building for 2 years, landlord is trying to have us split the utilities 50/50 The state is Pennsylvania. I have lived in the downstairs unit of this building for 2 years while they have been “renovating” the floors above us. It seemed like not much work had been done but apparently the landlord has 3 people ready to move in upstairs in a month. Currently it is me and my partner in the downstairs apartment and this seems weird to us to be splitting the utilities 50/50 with these people. Especially since there are 3 people instead of 2 in our apartment. Landlord’s reasoning is “her electrician died recently” and “not sure when we can separate the meters”. Currently we pay the landlord for all utilities which are in their name. After some brief research I’ve found a pdf on equalhousing.org which says the landlord needs to separate meters or else they are responsible for the costs. I sent the landlord this link and said I do not agree to separating bills 50/50. We signed the lease to renew months ago and it just started this month. Any advise?
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Cite the legal statute requiring your landlord to have separate meters or pay all the costs in the next email, with the code numbers and everything. State that further attempts to coerce and extort money from you due to their failure to understand their rights and obligations as the landlord will be considered harassment and reported to the authorities. Your landlord is trying to shake you down for money because they don’t think the law applies to them. Call local code enforcement and report your landlord is trying to move people into a unit without proper electrical meters or properly separate water. Write your local paper about it and include copies of the emails- it’s not slander if it’s true.
Info: what kind of “building” is this? Apartment complex? House? If it’s a house that’s been “converted” from a single family home, they’d have to prove they legally separated the floors into “units.” Otherwise it’s an illegal unit.
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Info: what kind of “building” is this? Apartment complex? House? If it’s a house that’s been “converted” from a single family home, they’d have to prove they legally separated the floors into “units.” Otherwise it’s an illegal unit.
Note too that electricity rates can vary depending on time of day and total usage. So using "twice as much electricity" could mean paying more than double. Do you have records of how much you've used and paid for the last two years?
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Tenant is moving in upstairs after I have lived in the building for 2 years, landlord is trying to have us split the utilities 50/50 The state is Pennsylvania. I have lived in the downstairs unit of this building for 2 years while they have been “renovating” the floors above us. It seemed like not much work had been done but apparently the landlord has 3 people ready to move in upstairs in a month. Currently it is me and my partner in the downstairs apartment and this seems weird to us to be splitting the utilities 50/50 with these people. Especially since there are 3 people instead of 2 in our apartment. Landlord’s reasoning is “her electrician died recently” and “not sure when we can separate the meters”. Currently we pay the landlord for all utilities which are in their name. After some brief research I’ve found a pdf on equalhousing.org which says the landlord needs to separate meters or else they are responsible for the costs. I sent the landlord this link and said I do not agree to separating bills 50/50. We signed the lease to renew months ago and it just started this month. Any advise?
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Info: what kind of “building” is this? Apartment complex? House? If it’s a house that’s been “converted” from a single family home, they’d have to prove they legally separated the floors into “units.” Otherwise it’s an illegal unit.
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Tenant is moving in upstairs after I have lived in the building for 2 years, landlord is trying to have us split the utilities 50/50 The state is Pennsylvania. I have lived in the downstairs unit of this building for 2 years while they have been “renovating” the floors above us. It seemed like not much work had been done but apparently the landlord has 3 people ready to move in upstairs in a month. Currently it is me and my partner in the downstairs apartment and this seems weird to us to be splitting the utilities 50/50 with these people. Especially since there are 3 people instead of 2 in our apartment. Landlord’s reasoning is “her electrician died recently” and “not sure when we can separate the meters”. Currently we pay the landlord for all utilities which are in their name. After some brief research I’ve found a pdf on equalhousing.org which says the landlord needs to separate meters or else they are responsible for the costs. I sent the landlord this link and said I do not agree to separating bills 50/50. We signed the lease to renew months ago and it just started this month. Any advise?
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Cite the legal statute requiring your landlord to have separate meters or pay all the costs in the next email, with the code numbers and everything. State that further attempts to coerce and extort money from you due to their failure to understand their rights and obligations as the landlord will be considered harassment and reported to the authorities. Your landlord is trying to shake you down for money because they don’t think the law applies to them. Call local code enforcement and report your landlord is trying to move people into a unit without proper electrical meters or properly separate water. Write your local paper about it and include copies of the emails- it’s not slander if it’s true.
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Car was towed from a handicap spot. Im actually handicapped. Have the designated plate. What can I do? (PA) My car was towed from the parking lot at a grocery store. No notice over the intercom to come move it. Just came out and it was gone. I went back in to speak with a manager after the moment of panic thinking my car was stolen. Turns out someone complained seeing me get out of my car and walk in and they had it towed. Im actually handicapped. Got in an accident when i was 5 from being hit by a drunk driver and severely tore my acl and mcl. Lucky to be walking as well as i am, but nonetheless, still technically handicapped. I park at the farthest spot they go and save the closest spots for people with more obvious handicaps. What can I do to avoid paying these outrages tow fees? Just moved into a new place, so im trying to keep a tight budget.
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I would think that this would be on the store. Their lot is private property. If I call a tow company and request service to remove a car from my private property they will provide this service. The tow driver is not enforcing parking laws. They are providing a service as requested by the property owner. The tow driver doesn't know the story. Perhaps the car was abandoned? Perhaps the owner was taken to the hospital and there was no friend/family to remove the car? Tows for reasons like this should be fairly common. The fact that the car was parked legally isn't an automatic red flag. All that the tow driver knows is that they were hired by a private property owner to remove a car from their property. The store should be responsible to pay the tow company for the service that they erroneously requested.
My car was towed from behind my apartment once, even with the parking pass displayed exactly where it was supposed to be. I called the tow company and told them they had no right to tow my car and demanded they bring it back. They gave me a giant run around and even after saying they couldn't bring it back, they did.
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Apt towed my car from its (payed) spot and is now at auction, help :( Hope this is the right place to post, but thats the long story short. I would appreciate suggestions or advice anyone has to offer. The longer version is I live in Denver Colorado in an apartment I’ve been in for over a year. Starting since may I’ve been remote working from home because of the pandemic. In July my mother had a bad fall suffering a compound fracture of her fibula/tibia. She lives in another state. I was able to support her recovery and just generally help her navigate the struggles of being old, temporarily handicapped, and in a pandemic by traveling back and forth working from there. Which was fine because of my remote work situation. I was at her home for two main blocks. The first was right after the emergency from a couple days after when I was able to pick her up after surgeries/three day hospital stay. I stayed for about three weeks, came back to Denver to check on things for another couple weeks and then went back to her place for another 5-6 weeks. I wanted to stay at least until she could be weight bearing, start pt, and drive. This second block is when I was towed. When I got back home I went to my numbered spot in the apts 100$/month private parking garage to find my car not there. After a good amount of confusion I found an email notice about cleaning and repainting the garage and failure to have cars moved during this time would result in them towing the vehicle. Fast forward to when I figure this all out I call the towing company and they tell me that after thirty days they go to auction. When I asked if I could do anything about this and telling her what happened she said that there wasn’t anything I could do. I understand that this is technically on me, I should have been paying attention to my personal email (it’s mostly spam and I have everything set up to auto pay). I’m wondering if anyone had any thoughts/suggestions on my predicament and how I might get my car back or anything? I would really appreciate any feedback. This is too long already but I thought I’d add the details that in my mind at least offer some mitigating factors The car is mine no loans The initial email notice was very vague they notified us Thursday it would be starting Monday and to not park from 9 to 6 there Then the work didn’t start till Tuesday and they just did one floor, that morning they sent out a schedule with each day going on a different lvl each day for power washing 9-6 then around again to painting 9-11pm. However at the end of the next day they postponed the whole project tbd because of poor contracting, and wanted another crew. So at that point I would have already had to move my car for three full days with very little prior irregular warning. They eventually rescheduled it for a week later. my car must have been towed on the first day they said they would be working (even though they didn’t do anything) because the rescheduled dates doesn’t leave 30 days for the tow yard to send it to auction. All of that confusion and not once do I get a call, sms or email that I had been towed or the 30 day period, and yes they have the info we have numbered spots, but of course I owe them 5$ utility fee that wasn’t calculated correctly in to my bill auto pay and they are on me like bounty hunters. It’s been a pretty shitty couple of days and I know I can’t go to these management ppl with hope for compassion to help me out so I’m posting here if anyone has a better strategy.
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To start, i would to see the tow company and demand proof of notification > (c) (I) (A) An operator or its agent shall, no less than two days, but no more than ten days after a motor vehicle has been towed or abandoned, determine who the owner is and if there is a lienholder and ***send a notice by certified mail, return receipt requested,*** to the address of the owner and any lienholder as determined from records of the department or from the national search performed by the department So if you were away, how exactly did certified mail delivery occur? This is important because: > (V) Consequences of failure to notify. A towing carrier holding a motor vehicle in storage who cannot demonstrate that it has made a good faith effort, as set forth in §§ 42-4-1804(6)(b) and 42-4-2103(3)(c)(II), C.R.S., to comply with the notification requirements of Parts 18 and 21 of Article 4 of Title 42, C.R.S., and § 42-5-109, C.R.S., shall release the motor vehicle immediately to the owner, lien holder, or their agents without charging, collecting, or retaining storage fees Essentially, if they didnt notify you, its considered an illegal tow and they must return the vehicle immediately at no cost to you. Should they not have proof of notification (refuse to leave until you have a solid answer), ask for a copy of the tow report with tow report number. This number is assigned by your local law enforcement agency and is also a legal requirement. Should they not have this or refuse to provide it, call your local police station yourself and report your vehicle stolen. Above quoted info is reiterated again with > II) The operator shall not be entitled to recover any daily storage fees from the day the vehicle is towed until the day the owner and lienholder are notified, unless the operator reasonably attempts to notify the owner and lienholder by the date specified in subparagraph (I) of this paragraph (c). Sending a notice by certified mail, return receipt requested, to the owner and the lienholder as represented in department records shall be deemed a reasonable attempt to notify the owner and the lienholder. Failure to notify the owner and the lienholder due to the receipt of erroneous information from the department shall not cause the loss of such storage fees accrued from the date the vehicle is towed until the owner and the lienholder receive such notice. TLDR/ Tow company has to prove they notified you via certified mail reciept. If they can't, they have to give your car back at no cost to you
Step number one is to stop the auction. Don’t listen to your adversary’s (towing company)’s advise that “nothing can be done to stop it”. Get your attourney and have them work with the towing company to stop the auction before it’s too late (if it is even real). Then pay them to stop accumulating damages and get the car back. Then explore if you are able to collect damages from the apartment complex or not - possibly via a small claims court. I’d argue (as a layman) that with no violation on your end, the fair thing to do for apartment complex was to reduce damages by getting your car towed out and then back for the duration of the work (and charging you for the one-time costs), not leaving you up and dry accruing daily fees at the towing lot.
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Apt towed my car from its (payed) spot and is now at auction, help :( Hope this is the right place to post, but thats the long story short. I would appreciate suggestions or advice anyone has to offer. The longer version is I live in Denver Colorado in an apartment I’ve been in for over a year. Starting since may I’ve been remote working from home because of the pandemic. In July my mother had a bad fall suffering a compound fracture of her fibula/tibia. She lives in another state. I was able to support her recovery and just generally help her navigate the struggles of being old, temporarily handicapped, and in a pandemic by traveling back and forth working from there. Which was fine because of my remote work situation. I was at her home for two main blocks. The first was right after the emergency from a couple days after when I was able to pick her up after surgeries/three day hospital stay. I stayed for about three weeks, came back to Denver to check on things for another couple weeks and then went back to her place for another 5-6 weeks. I wanted to stay at least until she could be weight bearing, start pt, and drive. This second block is when I was towed. When I got back home I went to my numbered spot in the apts 100$/month private parking garage to find my car not there. After a good amount of confusion I found an email notice about cleaning and repainting the garage and failure to have cars moved during this time would result in them towing the vehicle. Fast forward to when I figure this all out I call the towing company and they tell me that after thirty days they go to auction. When I asked if I could do anything about this and telling her what happened she said that there wasn’t anything I could do. I understand that this is technically on me, I should have been paying attention to my personal email (it’s mostly spam and I have everything set up to auto pay). I’m wondering if anyone had any thoughts/suggestions on my predicament and how I might get my car back or anything? I would really appreciate any feedback. This is too long already but I thought I’d add the details that in my mind at least offer some mitigating factors The car is mine no loans The initial email notice was very vague they notified us Thursday it would be starting Monday and to not park from 9 to 6 there Then the work didn’t start till Tuesday and they just did one floor, that morning they sent out a schedule with each day going on a different lvl each day for power washing 9-6 then around again to painting 9-11pm. However at the end of the next day they postponed the whole project tbd because of poor contracting, and wanted another crew. So at that point I would have already had to move my car for three full days with very little prior irregular warning. They eventually rescheduled it for a week later. my car must have been towed on the first day they said they would be working (even though they didn’t do anything) because the rescheduled dates doesn’t leave 30 days for the tow yard to send it to auction. All of that confusion and not once do I get a call, sms or email that I had been towed or the 30 day period, and yes they have the info we have numbered spots, but of course I owe them 5$ utility fee that wasn’t calculated correctly in to my bill auto pay and they are on me like bounty hunters. It’s been a pretty shitty couple of days and I know I can’t go to these management ppl with hope for compassion to help me out so I’m posting here if anyone has a better strategy.
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Parking professional here (WA state). If your spot is reserved (as in your spot is assigned to you only) the rules might be different. I episode look at your agreement with the complex and see what it says about notice for having to vacate the stall. If it’s not reserved parking, you’re probably out if luck with the tow fees. However, your complex might actually have a say witg the tow company. I would press them on that.
To start, i would to see the tow company and demand proof of notification > (c) (I) (A) An operator or its agent shall, no less than two days, but no more than ten days after a motor vehicle has been towed or abandoned, determine who the owner is and if there is a lienholder and ***send a notice by certified mail, return receipt requested,*** to the address of the owner and any lienholder as determined from records of the department or from the national search performed by the department So if you were away, how exactly did certified mail delivery occur? This is important because: > (V) Consequences of failure to notify. A towing carrier holding a motor vehicle in storage who cannot demonstrate that it has made a good faith effort, as set forth in §§ 42-4-1804(6)(b) and 42-4-2103(3)(c)(II), C.R.S., to comply with the notification requirements of Parts 18 and 21 of Article 4 of Title 42, C.R.S., and § 42-5-109, C.R.S., shall release the motor vehicle immediately to the owner, lien holder, or their agents without charging, collecting, or retaining storage fees Essentially, if they didnt notify you, its considered an illegal tow and they must return the vehicle immediately at no cost to you. Should they not have proof of notification (refuse to leave until you have a solid answer), ask for a copy of the tow report with tow report number. This number is assigned by your local law enforcement agency and is also a legal requirement. Should they not have this or refuse to provide it, call your local police station yourself and report your vehicle stolen. Above quoted info is reiterated again with > II) The operator shall not be entitled to recover any daily storage fees from the day the vehicle is towed until the day the owner and lienholder are notified, unless the operator reasonably attempts to notify the owner and lienholder by the date specified in subparagraph (I) of this paragraph (c). Sending a notice by certified mail, return receipt requested, to the owner and the lienholder as represented in department records shall be deemed a reasonable attempt to notify the owner and the lienholder. Failure to notify the owner and the lienholder due to the receipt of erroneous information from the department shall not cause the loss of such storage fees accrued from the date the vehicle is towed until the owner and the lienholder receive such notice. TLDR/ Tow company has to prove they notified you via certified mail reciept. If they can't, they have to give your car back at no cost to you
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Apt towed my car from its (payed) spot and is now at auction, help :( Hope this is the right place to post, but thats the long story short. I would appreciate suggestions or advice anyone has to offer. The longer version is I live in Denver Colorado in an apartment I’ve been in for over a year. Starting since may I’ve been remote working from home because of the pandemic. In July my mother had a bad fall suffering a compound fracture of her fibula/tibia. She lives in another state. I was able to support her recovery and just generally help her navigate the struggles of being old, temporarily handicapped, and in a pandemic by traveling back and forth working from there. Which was fine because of my remote work situation. I was at her home for two main blocks. The first was right after the emergency from a couple days after when I was able to pick her up after surgeries/three day hospital stay. I stayed for about three weeks, came back to Denver to check on things for another couple weeks and then went back to her place for another 5-6 weeks. I wanted to stay at least until she could be weight bearing, start pt, and drive. This second block is when I was towed. When I got back home I went to my numbered spot in the apts 100$/month private parking garage to find my car not there. After a good amount of confusion I found an email notice about cleaning and repainting the garage and failure to have cars moved during this time would result in them towing the vehicle. Fast forward to when I figure this all out I call the towing company and they tell me that after thirty days they go to auction. When I asked if I could do anything about this and telling her what happened she said that there wasn’t anything I could do. I understand that this is technically on me, I should have been paying attention to my personal email (it’s mostly spam and I have everything set up to auto pay). I’m wondering if anyone had any thoughts/suggestions on my predicament and how I might get my car back or anything? I would really appreciate any feedback. This is too long already but I thought I’d add the details that in my mind at least offer some mitigating factors The car is mine no loans The initial email notice was very vague they notified us Thursday it would be starting Monday and to not park from 9 to 6 there Then the work didn’t start till Tuesday and they just did one floor, that morning they sent out a schedule with each day going on a different lvl each day for power washing 9-6 then around again to painting 9-11pm. However at the end of the next day they postponed the whole project tbd because of poor contracting, and wanted another crew. So at that point I would have already had to move my car for three full days with very little prior irregular warning. They eventually rescheduled it for a week later. my car must have been towed on the first day they said they would be working (even though they didn’t do anything) because the rescheduled dates doesn’t leave 30 days for the tow yard to send it to auction. All of that confusion and not once do I get a call, sms or email that I had been towed or the 30 day period, and yes they have the info we have numbered spots, but of course I owe them 5$ utility fee that wasn’t calculated correctly in to my bill auto pay and they are on me like bounty hunters. It’s been a pretty shitty couple of days and I know I can’t go to these management ppl with hope for compassion to help me out so I’m posting here if anyone has a better strategy.
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To start, i would to see the tow company and demand proof of notification > (c) (I) (A) An operator or its agent shall, no less than two days, but no more than ten days after a motor vehicle has been towed or abandoned, determine who the owner is and if there is a lienholder and ***send a notice by certified mail, return receipt requested,*** to the address of the owner and any lienholder as determined from records of the department or from the national search performed by the department So if you were away, how exactly did certified mail delivery occur? This is important because: > (V) Consequences of failure to notify. A towing carrier holding a motor vehicle in storage who cannot demonstrate that it has made a good faith effort, as set forth in §§ 42-4-1804(6)(b) and 42-4-2103(3)(c)(II), C.R.S., to comply with the notification requirements of Parts 18 and 21 of Article 4 of Title 42, C.R.S., and § 42-5-109, C.R.S., shall release the motor vehicle immediately to the owner, lien holder, or their agents without charging, collecting, or retaining storage fees Essentially, if they didnt notify you, its considered an illegal tow and they must return the vehicle immediately at no cost to you. Should they not have proof of notification (refuse to leave until you have a solid answer), ask for a copy of the tow report with tow report number. This number is assigned by your local law enforcement agency and is also a legal requirement. Should they not have this or refuse to provide it, call your local police station yourself and report your vehicle stolen. Above quoted info is reiterated again with > II) The operator shall not be entitled to recover any daily storage fees from the day the vehicle is towed until the day the owner and lienholder are notified, unless the operator reasonably attempts to notify the owner and lienholder by the date specified in subparagraph (I) of this paragraph (c). Sending a notice by certified mail, return receipt requested, to the owner and the lienholder as represented in department records shall be deemed a reasonable attempt to notify the owner and the lienholder. Failure to notify the owner and the lienholder due to the receipt of erroneous information from the department shall not cause the loss of such storage fees accrued from the date the vehicle is towed until the owner and the lienholder receive such notice. TLDR/ Tow company has to prove they notified you via certified mail reciept. If they can't, they have to give your car back at no cost to you
Since no one has said this yet, lawyer up. This sub is here to give you pointers, but in the end you need your own attorney, especially when it's about something as substantial an asset as a car. Do this today, do not wait, every day you wait can and will cost you extra money.
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Apt towed my car from its (payed) spot and is now at auction, help :( Hope this is the right place to post, but thats the long story short. I would appreciate suggestions or advice anyone has to offer. The longer version is I live in Denver Colorado in an apartment I’ve been in for over a year. Starting since may I’ve been remote working from home because of the pandemic. In July my mother had a bad fall suffering a compound fracture of her fibula/tibia. She lives in another state. I was able to support her recovery and just generally help her navigate the struggles of being old, temporarily handicapped, and in a pandemic by traveling back and forth working from there. Which was fine because of my remote work situation. I was at her home for two main blocks. The first was right after the emergency from a couple days after when I was able to pick her up after surgeries/three day hospital stay. I stayed for about three weeks, came back to Denver to check on things for another couple weeks and then went back to her place for another 5-6 weeks. I wanted to stay at least until she could be weight bearing, start pt, and drive. This second block is when I was towed. When I got back home I went to my numbered spot in the apts 100$/month private parking garage to find my car not there. After a good amount of confusion I found an email notice about cleaning and repainting the garage and failure to have cars moved during this time would result in them towing the vehicle. Fast forward to when I figure this all out I call the towing company and they tell me that after thirty days they go to auction. When I asked if I could do anything about this and telling her what happened she said that there wasn’t anything I could do. I understand that this is technically on me, I should have been paying attention to my personal email (it’s mostly spam and I have everything set up to auto pay). I’m wondering if anyone had any thoughts/suggestions on my predicament and how I might get my car back or anything? I would really appreciate any feedback. This is too long already but I thought I’d add the details that in my mind at least offer some mitigating factors The car is mine no loans The initial email notice was very vague they notified us Thursday it would be starting Monday and to not park from 9 to 6 there Then the work didn’t start till Tuesday and they just did one floor, that morning they sent out a schedule with each day going on a different lvl each day for power washing 9-6 then around again to painting 9-11pm. However at the end of the next day they postponed the whole project tbd because of poor contracting, and wanted another crew. So at that point I would have already had to move my car for three full days with very little prior irregular warning. They eventually rescheduled it for a week later. my car must have been towed on the first day they said they would be working (even though they didn’t do anything) because the rescheduled dates doesn’t leave 30 days for the tow yard to send it to auction. All of that confusion and not once do I get a call, sms or email that I had been towed or the 30 day period, and yes they have the info we have numbered spots, but of course I owe them 5$ utility fee that wasn’t calculated correctly in to my bill auto pay and they are on me like bounty hunters. It’s been a pretty shitty couple of days and I know I can’t go to these management ppl with hope for compassion to help me out so I’m posting here if anyone has a better strategy.
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Unfortunately it sounds like they properly notified you, had a proper reason to ask you to move your vehicle, and gave enough notice. The only possible out you have is if they did not notify you of the tow. But it sounds like you weren't checking mail or email regularly while you were traveling. Check your mail and email. If you did not get proper notice of the tow, there may be a valid claim here. Otherwise, you're SOL. I have some advice for readers of this thread, and for you for the future. First, check your email and physical mail regularly. Preferably at least once a week. You would be surprised at the number of people who end up with a warrant because they "didn't notice" that they had a jury duty notice, or who had a default judgment because they didn't check their mail. Second, if you are traveling longer term, put the landlord on notice letting them know that you will be traveling & to keep an eye on your apartment and notify you via whatever method works for you about any issues. Third, have a friend check your mail and check in on your place occasionally. You can save yourself a heap of trouble with that. Fourth, though not related to this scenario, get renter's insurance. It's cheap and it can be oh so valuable.
To start, i would to see the tow company and demand proof of notification > (c) (I) (A) An operator or its agent shall, no less than two days, but no more than ten days after a motor vehicle has been towed or abandoned, determine who the owner is and if there is a lienholder and ***send a notice by certified mail, return receipt requested,*** to the address of the owner and any lienholder as determined from records of the department or from the national search performed by the department So if you were away, how exactly did certified mail delivery occur? This is important because: > (V) Consequences of failure to notify. A towing carrier holding a motor vehicle in storage who cannot demonstrate that it has made a good faith effort, as set forth in §§ 42-4-1804(6)(b) and 42-4-2103(3)(c)(II), C.R.S., to comply with the notification requirements of Parts 18 and 21 of Article 4 of Title 42, C.R.S., and § 42-5-109, C.R.S., shall release the motor vehicle immediately to the owner, lien holder, or their agents without charging, collecting, or retaining storage fees Essentially, if they didnt notify you, its considered an illegal tow and they must return the vehicle immediately at no cost to you. Should they not have proof of notification (refuse to leave until you have a solid answer), ask for a copy of the tow report with tow report number. This number is assigned by your local law enforcement agency and is also a legal requirement. Should they not have this or refuse to provide it, call your local police station yourself and report your vehicle stolen. Above quoted info is reiterated again with > II) The operator shall not be entitled to recover any daily storage fees from the day the vehicle is towed until the day the owner and lienholder are notified, unless the operator reasonably attempts to notify the owner and lienholder by the date specified in subparagraph (I) of this paragraph (c). Sending a notice by certified mail, return receipt requested, to the owner and the lienholder as represented in department records shall be deemed a reasonable attempt to notify the owner and the lienholder. Failure to notify the owner and the lienholder due to the receipt of erroneous information from the department shall not cause the loss of such storage fees accrued from the date the vehicle is towed until the owner and the lienholder receive such notice. TLDR/ Tow company has to prove they notified you via certified mail reciept. If they can't, they have to give your car back at no cost to you
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Apt towed my car from its (payed) spot and is now at auction, help :( Hope this is the right place to post, but thats the long story short. I would appreciate suggestions or advice anyone has to offer. The longer version is I live in Denver Colorado in an apartment I’ve been in for over a year. Starting since may I’ve been remote working from home because of the pandemic. In July my mother had a bad fall suffering a compound fracture of her fibula/tibia. She lives in another state. I was able to support her recovery and just generally help her navigate the struggles of being old, temporarily handicapped, and in a pandemic by traveling back and forth working from there. Which was fine because of my remote work situation. I was at her home for two main blocks. The first was right after the emergency from a couple days after when I was able to pick her up after surgeries/three day hospital stay. I stayed for about three weeks, came back to Denver to check on things for another couple weeks and then went back to her place for another 5-6 weeks. I wanted to stay at least until she could be weight bearing, start pt, and drive. This second block is when I was towed. When I got back home I went to my numbered spot in the apts 100$/month private parking garage to find my car not there. After a good amount of confusion I found an email notice about cleaning and repainting the garage and failure to have cars moved during this time would result in them towing the vehicle. Fast forward to when I figure this all out I call the towing company and they tell me that after thirty days they go to auction. When I asked if I could do anything about this and telling her what happened she said that there wasn’t anything I could do. I understand that this is technically on me, I should have been paying attention to my personal email (it’s mostly spam and I have everything set up to auto pay). I’m wondering if anyone had any thoughts/suggestions on my predicament and how I might get my car back or anything? I would really appreciate any feedback. This is too long already but I thought I’d add the details that in my mind at least offer some mitigating factors The car is mine no loans The initial email notice was very vague they notified us Thursday it would be starting Monday and to not park from 9 to 6 there Then the work didn’t start till Tuesday and they just did one floor, that morning they sent out a schedule with each day going on a different lvl each day for power washing 9-6 then around again to painting 9-11pm. However at the end of the next day they postponed the whole project tbd because of poor contracting, and wanted another crew. So at that point I would have already had to move my car for three full days with very little prior irregular warning. They eventually rescheduled it for a week later. my car must have been towed on the first day they said they would be working (even though they didn’t do anything) because the rescheduled dates doesn’t leave 30 days for the tow yard to send it to auction. All of that confusion and not once do I get a call, sms or email that I had been towed or the 30 day period, and yes they have the info we have numbered spots, but of course I owe them 5$ utility fee that wasn’t calculated correctly in to my bill auto pay and they are on me like bounty hunters. It’s been a pretty shitty couple of days and I know I can’t go to these management ppl with hope for compassion to help me out so I’m posting here if anyone has a better strategy.
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I don’t see how they are able to send a car to auction after only 30 days, especially considering they made no effort to contact you or seek payment for towing or storage fees. I don’t believe they can have any kind of legal adverse possession, mechanic’s lien, or any other legal avenue to possess your title and auction your vehicle after only 30 days. As is almost always the case on this sub, I encourage you to contact a local attorney immediately.
To start, i would to see the tow company and demand proof of notification > (c) (I) (A) An operator or its agent shall, no less than two days, but no more than ten days after a motor vehicle has been towed or abandoned, determine who the owner is and if there is a lienholder and ***send a notice by certified mail, return receipt requested,*** to the address of the owner and any lienholder as determined from records of the department or from the national search performed by the department So if you were away, how exactly did certified mail delivery occur? This is important because: > (V) Consequences of failure to notify. A towing carrier holding a motor vehicle in storage who cannot demonstrate that it has made a good faith effort, as set forth in §§ 42-4-1804(6)(b) and 42-4-2103(3)(c)(II), C.R.S., to comply with the notification requirements of Parts 18 and 21 of Article 4 of Title 42, C.R.S., and § 42-5-109, C.R.S., shall release the motor vehicle immediately to the owner, lien holder, or their agents without charging, collecting, or retaining storage fees Essentially, if they didnt notify you, its considered an illegal tow and they must return the vehicle immediately at no cost to you. Should they not have proof of notification (refuse to leave until you have a solid answer), ask for a copy of the tow report with tow report number. This number is assigned by your local law enforcement agency and is also a legal requirement. Should they not have this or refuse to provide it, call your local police station yourself and report your vehicle stolen. Above quoted info is reiterated again with > II) The operator shall not be entitled to recover any daily storage fees from the day the vehicle is towed until the day the owner and lienholder are notified, unless the operator reasonably attempts to notify the owner and lienholder by the date specified in subparagraph (I) of this paragraph (c). Sending a notice by certified mail, return receipt requested, to the owner and the lienholder as represented in department records shall be deemed a reasonable attempt to notify the owner and the lienholder. Failure to notify the owner and the lienholder due to the receipt of erroneous information from the department shall not cause the loss of such storage fees accrued from the date the vehicle is towed until the owner and the lienholder receive such notice. TLDR/ Tow company has to prove they notified you via certified mail reciept. If they can't, they have to give your car back at no cost to you
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Apt towed my car from its (payed) spot and is now at auction, help :( Hope this is the right place to post, but thats the long story short. I would appreciate suggestions or advice anyone has to offer. The longer version is I live in Denver Colorado in an apartment I’ve been in for over a year. Starting since may I’ve been remote working from home because of the pandemic. In July my mother had a bad fall suffering a compound fracture of her fibula/tibia. She lives in another state. I was able to support her recovery and just generally help her navigate the struggles of being old, temporarily handicapped, and in a pandemic by traveling back and forth working from there. Which was fine because of my remote work situation. I was at her home for two main blocks. The first was right after the emergency from a couple days after when I was able to pick her up after surgeries/three day hospital stay. I stayed for about three weeks, came back to Denver to check on things for another couple weeks and then went back to her place for another 5-6 weeks. I wanted to stay at least until she could be weight bearing, start pt, and drive. This second block is when I was towed. When I got back home I went to my numbered spot in the apts 100$/month private parking garage to find my car not there. After a good amount of confusion I found an email notice about cleaning and repainting the garage and failure to have cars moved during this time would result in them towing the vehicle. Fast forward to when I figure this all out I call the towing company and they tell me that after thirty days they go to auction. When I asked if I could do anything about this and telling her what happened she said that there wasn’t anything I could do. I understand that this is technically on me, I should have been paying attention to my personal email (it’s mostly spam and I have everything set up to auto pay). I’m wondering if anyone had any thoughts/suggestions on my predicament and how I might get my car back or anything? I would really appreciate any feedback. This is too long already but I thought I’d add the details that in my mind at least offer some mitigating factors The car is mine no loans The initial email notice was very vague they notified us Thursday it would be starting Monday and to not park from 9 to 6 there Then the work didn’t start till Tuesday and they just did one floor, that morning they sent out a schedule with each day going on a different lvl each day for power washing 9-6 then around again to painting 9-11pm. However at the end of the next day they postponed the whole project tbd because of poor contracting, and wanted another crew. So at that point I would have already had to move my car for three full days with very little prior irregular warning. They eventually rescheduled it for a week later. my car must have been towed on the first day they said they would be working (even though they didn’t do anything) because the rescheduled dates doesn’t leave 30 days for the tow yard to send it to auction. All of that confusion and not once do I get a call, sms or email that I had been towed or the 30 day period, and yes they have the info we have numbered spots, but of course I owe them 5$ utility fee that wasn’t calculated correctly in to my bill auto pay and they are on me like bounty hunters. It’s been a pretty shitty couple of days and I know I can’t go to these management ppl with hope for compassion to help me out so I’m posting here if anyone has a better strategy.
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Parking professional here (WA state). If your spot is reserved (as in your spot is assigned to you only) the rules might be different. I episode look at your agreement with the complex and see what it says about notice for having to vacate the stall. If it’s not reserved parking, you’re probably out if luck with the tow fees. However, your complex might actually have a say witg the tow company. I would press them on that.
Step number one is to stop the auction. Don’t listen to your adversary’s (towing company)’s advise that “nothing can be done to stop it”. Get your attourney and have them work with the towing company to stop the auction before it’s too late (if it is even real). Then pay them to stop accumulating damages and get the car back. Then explore if you are able to collect damages from the apartment complex or not - possibly via a small claims court. I’d argue (as a layman) that with no violation on your end, the fair thing to do for apartment complex was to reduce damages by getting your car towed out and then back for the duration of the work (and charging you for the one-time costs), not leaving you up and dry accruing daily fees at the towing lot.
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Apt towed my car from its (payed) spot and is now at auction, help :( Hope this is the right place to post, but thats the long story short. I would appreciate suggestions or advice anyone has to offer. The longer version is I live in Denver Colorado in an apartment I’ve been in for over a year. Starting since may I’ve been remote working from home because of the pandemic. In July my mother had a bad fall suffering a compound fracture of her fibula/tibia. She lives in another state. I was able to support her recovery and just generally help her navigate the struggles of being old, temporarily handicapped, and in a pandemic by traveling back and forth working from there. Which was fine because of my remote work situation. I was at her home for two main blocks. The first was right after the emergency from a couple days after when I was able to pick her up after surgeries/three day hospital stay. I stayed for about three weeks, came back to Denver to check on things for another couple weeks and then went back to her place for another 5-6 weeks. I wanted to stay at least until she could be weight bearing, start pt, and drive. This second block is when I was towed. When I got back home I went to my numbered spot in the apts 100$/month private parking garage to find my car not there. After a good amount of confusion I found an email notice about cleaning and repainting the garage and failure to have cars moved during this time would result in them towing the vehicle. Fast forward to when I figure this all out I call the towing company and they tell me that after thirty days they go to auction. When I asked if I could do anything about this and telling her what happened she said that there wasn’t anything I could do. I understand that this is technically on me, I should have been paying attention to my personal email (it’s mostly spam and I have everything set up to auto pay). I’m wondering if anyone had any thoughts/suggestions on my predicament and how I might get my car back or anything? I would really appreciate any feedback. This is too long already but I thought I’d add the details that in my mind at least offer some mitigating factors The car is mine no loans The initial email notice was very vague they notified us Thursday it would be starting Monday and to not park from 9 to 6 there Then the work didn’t start till Tuesday and they just did one floor, that morning they sent out a schedule with each day going on a different lvl each day for power washing 9-6 then around again to painting 9-11pm. However at the end of the next day they postponed the whole project tbd because of poor contracting, and wanted another crew. So at that point I would have already had to move my car for three full days with very little prior irregular warning. They eventually rescheduled it for a week later. my car must have been towed on the first day they said they would be working (even though they didn’t do anything) because the rescheduled dates doesn’t leave 30 days for the tow yard to send it to auction. All of that confusion and not once do I get a call, sms or email that I had been towed or the 30 day period, and yes they have the info we have numbered spots, but of course I owe them 5$ utility fee that wasn’t calculated correctly in to my bill auto pay and they are on me like bounty hunters. It’s been a pretty shitty couple of days and I know I can’t go to these management ppl with hope for compassion to help me out so I’m posting here if anyone has a better strategy.
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Unfortunately it sounds like they properly notified you, had a proper reason to ask you to move your vehicle, and gave enough notice. The only possible out you have is if they did not notify you of the tow. But it sounds like you weren't checking mail or email regularly while you were traveling. Check your mail and email. If you did not get proper notice of the tow, there may be a valid claim here. Otherwise, you're SOL. I have some advice for readers of this thread, and for you for the future. First, check your email and physical mail regularly. Preferably at least once a week. You would be surprised at the number of people who end up with a warrant because they "didn't notice" that they had a jury duty notice, or who had a default judgment because they didn't check their mail. Second, if you are traveling longer term, put the landlord on notice letting them know that you will be traveling & to keep an eye on your apartment and notify you via whatever method works for you about any issues. Third, have a friend check your mail and check in on your place occasionally. You can save yourself a heap of trouble with that. Fourth, though not related to this scenario, get renter's insurance. It's cheap and it can be oh so valuable.
Step number one is to stop the auction. Don’t listen to your adversary’s (towing company)’s advise that “nothing can be done to stop it”. Get your attourney and have them work with the towing company to stop the auction before it’s too late (if it is even real). Then pay them to stop accumulating damages and get the car back. Then explore if you are able to collect damages from the apartment complex or not - possibly via a small claims court. I’d argue (as a layman) that with no violation on your end, the fair thing to do for apartment complex was to reduce damages by getting your car towed out and then back for the duration of the work (and charging you for the one-time costs), not leaving you up and dry accruing daily fees at the towing lot.
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Apt towed my car from its (payed) spot and is now at auction, help :( Hope this is the right place to post, but thats the long story short. I would appreciate suggestions or advice anyone has to offer. The longer version is I live in Denver Colorado in an apartment I’ve been in for over a year. Starting since may I’ve been remote working from home because of the pandemic. In July my mother had a bad fall suffering a compound fracture of her fibula/tibia. She lives in another state. I was able to support her recovery and just generally help her navigate the struggles of being old, temporarily handicapped, and in a pandemic by traveling back and forth working from there. Which was fine because of my remote work situation. I was at her home for two main blocks. The first was right after the emergency from a couple days after when I was able to pick her up after surgeries/three day hospital stay. I stayed for about three weeks, came back to Denver to check on things for another couple weeks and then went back to her place for another 5-6 weeks. I wanted to stay at least until she could be weight bearing, start pt, and drive. This second block is when I was towed. When I got back home I went to my numbered spot in the apts 100$/month private parking garage to find my car not there. After a good amount of confusion I found an email notice about cleaning and repainting the garage and failure to have cars moved during this time would result in them towing the vehicle. Fast forward to when I figure this all out I call the towing company and they tell me that after thirty days they go to auction. When I asked if I could do anything about this and telling her what happened she said that there wasn’t anything I could do. I understand that this is technically on me, I should have been paying attention to my personal email (it’s mostly spam and I have everything set up to auto pay). I’m wondering if anyone had any thoughts/suggestions on my predicament and how I might get my car back or anything? I would really appreciate any feedback. This is too long already but I thought I’d add the details that in my mind at least offer some mitigating factors The car is mine no loans The initial email notice was very vague they notified us Thursday it would be starting Monday and to not park from 9 to 6 there Then the work didn’t start till Tuesday and they just did one floor, that morning they sent out a schedule with each day going on a different lvl each day for power washing 9-6 then around again to painting 9-11pm. However at the end of the next day they postponed the whole project tbd because of poor contracting, and wanted another crew. So at that point I would have already had to move my car for three full days with very little prior irregular warning. They eventually rescheduled it for a week later. my car must have been towed on the first day they said they would be working (even though they didn’t do anything) because the rescheduled dates doesn’t leave 30 days for the tow yard to send it to auction. All of that confusion and not once do I get a call, sms or email that I had been towed or the 30 day period, and yes they have the info we have numbered spots, but of course I owe them 5$ utility fee that wasn’t calculated correctly in to my bill auto pay and they are on me like bounty hunters. It’s been a pretty shitty couple of days and I know I can’t go to these management ppl with hope for compassion to help me out so I’m posting here if anyone has a better strategy.
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Step number one is to stop the auction. Don’t listen to your adversary’s (towing company)’s advise that “nothing can be done to stop it”. Get your attourney and have them work with the towing company to stop the auction before it’s too late (if it is even real). Then pay them to stop accumulating damages and get the car back. Then explore if you are able to collect damages from the apartment complex or not - possibly via a small claims court. I’d argue (as a layman) that with no violation on your end, the fair thing to do for apartment complex was to reduce damages by getting your car towed out and then back for the duration of the work (and charging you for the one-time costs), not leaving you up and dry accruing daily fees at the towing lot.
I don’t see how they are able to send a car to auction after only 30 days, especially considering they made no effort to contact you or seek payment for towing or storage fees. I don’t believe they can have any kind of legal adverse possession, mechanic’s lien, or any other legal avenue to possess your title and auction your vehicle after only 30 days. As is almost always the case on this sub, I encourage you to contact a local attorney immediately.
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Apt towed my car from its (payed) spot and is now at auction, help :( Hope this is the right place to post, but thats the long story short. I would appreciate suggestions or advice anyone has to offer. The longer version is I live in Denver Colorado in an apartment I’ve been in for over a year. Starting since may I’ve been remote working from home because of the pandemic. In July my mother had a bad fall suffering a compound fracture of her fibula/tibia. She lives in another state. I was able to support her recovery and just generally help her navigate the struggles of being old, temporarily handicapped, and in a pandemic by traveling back and forth working from there. Which was fine because of my remote work situation. I was at her home for two main blocks. The first was right after the emergency from a couple days after when I was able to pick her up after surgeries/three day hospital stay. I stayed for about three weeks, came back to Denver to check on things for another couple weeks and then went back to her place for another 5-6 weeks. I wanted to stay at least until she could be weight bearing, start pt, and drive. This second block is when I was towed. When I got back home I went to my numbered spot in the apts 100$/month private parking garage to find my car not there. After a good amount of confusion I found an email notice about cleaning and repainting the garage and failure to have cars moved during this time would result in them towing the vehicle. Fast forward to when I figure this all out I call the towing company and they tell me that after thirty days they go to auction. When I asked if I could do anything about this and telling her what happened she said that there wasn’t anything I could do. I understand that this is technically on me, I should have been paying attention to my personal email (it’s mostly spam and I have everything set up to auto pay). I’m wondering if anyone had any thoughts/suggestions on my predicament and how I might get my car back or anything? I would really appreciate any feedback. This is too long already but I thought I’d add the details that in my mind at least offer some mitigating factors The car is mine no loans The initial email notice was very vague they notified us Thursday it would be starting Monday and to not park from 9 to 6 there Then the work didn’t start till Tuesday and they just did one floor, that morning they sent out a schedule with each day going on a different lvl each day for power washing 9-6 then around again to painting 9-11pm. However at the end of the next day they postponed the whole project tbd because of poor contracting, and wanted another crew. So at that point I would have already had to move my car for three full days with very little prior irregular warning. They eventually rescheduled it for a week later. my car must have been towed on the first day they said they would be working (even though they didn’t do anything) because the rescheduled dates doesn’t leave 30 days for the tow yard to send it to auction. All of that confusion and not once do I get a call, sms or email that I had been towed or the 30 day period, and yes they have the info we have numbered spots, but of course I owe them 5$ utility fee that wasn’t calculated correctly in to my bill auto pay and they are on me like bounty hunters. It’s been a pretty shitty couple of days and I know I can’t go to these management ppl with hope for compassion to help me out so I’m posting here if anyone has a better strategy.
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Unfortunately it sounds like they properly notified you, had a proper reason to ask you to move your vehicle, and gave enough notice. The only possible out you have is if they did not notify you of the tow. But it sounds like you weren't checking mail or email regularly while you were traveling. Check your mail and email. If you did not get proper notice of the tow, there may be a valid claim here. Otherwise, you're SOL. I have some advice for readers of this thread, and for you for the future. First, check your email and physical mail regularly. Preferably at least once a week. You would be surprised at the number of people who end up with a warrant because they "didn't notice" that they had a jury duty notice, or who had a default judgment because they didn't check their mail. Second, if you are traveling longer term, put the landlord on notice letting them know that you will be traveling & to keep an eye on your apartment and notify you via whatever method works for you about any issues. Third, have a friend check your mail and check in on your place occasionally. You can save yourself a heap of trouble with that. Fourth, though not related to this scenario, get renter's insurance. It's cheap and it can be oh so valuable.
Since no one has said this yet, lawyer up. This sub is here to give you pointers, but in the end you need your own attorney, especially when it's about something as substantial an asset as a car. Do this today, do not wait, every day you wait can and will cost you extra money.
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Apt towed my car from its (payed) spot and is now at auction, help :( Hope this is the right place to post, but thats the long story short. I would appreciate suggestions or advice anyone has to offer. The longer version is I live in Denver Colorado in an apartment I’ve been in for over a year. Starting since may I’ve been remote working from home because of the pandemic. In July my mother had a bad fall suffering a compound fracture of her fibula/tibia. She lives in another state. I was able to support her recovery and just generally help her navigate the struggles of being old, temporarily handicapped, and in a pandemic by traveling back and forth working from there. Which was fine because of my remote work situation. I was at her home for two main blocks. The first was right after the emergency from a couple days after when I was able to pick her up after surgeries/three day hospital stay. I stayed for about three weeks, came back to Denver to check on things for another couple weeks and then went back to her place for another 5-6 weeks. I wanted to stay at least until she could be weight bearing, start pt, and drive. This second block is when I was towed. When I got back home I went to my numbered spot in the apts 100$/month private parking garage to find my car not there. After a good amount of confusion I found an email notice about cleaning and repainting the garage and failure to have cars moved during this time would result in them towing the vehicle. Fast forward to when I figure this all out I call the towing company and they tell me that after thirty days they go to auction. When I asked if I could do anything about this and telling her what happened she said that there wasn’t anything I could do. I understand that this is technically on me, I should have been paying attention to my personal email (it’s mostly spam and I have everything set up to auto pay). I’m wondering if anyone had any thoughts/suggestions on my predicament and how I might get my car back or anything? I would really appreciate any feedback. This is too long already but I thought I’d add the details that in my mind at least offer some mitigating factors The car is mine no loans The initial email notice was very vague they notified us Thursday it would be starting Monday and to not park from 9 to 6 there Then the work didn’t start till Tuesday and they just did one floor, that morning they sent out a schedule with each day going on a different lvl each day for power washing 9-6 then around again to painting 9-11pm. However at the end of the next day they postponed the whole project tbd because of poor contracting, and wanted another crew. So at that point I would have already had to move my car for three full days with very little prior irregular warning. They eventually rescheduled it for a week later. my car must have been towed on the first day they said they would be working (even though they didn’t do anything) because the rescheduled dates doesn’t leave 30 days for the tow yard to send it to auction. All of that confusion and not once do I get a call, sms or email that I had been towed or the 30 day period, and yes they have the info we have numbered spots, but of course I owe them 5$ utility fee that wasn’t calculated correctly in to my bill auto pay and they are on me like bounty hunters. It’s been a pretty shitty couple of days and I know I can’t go to these management ppl with hope for compassion to help me out so I’m posting here if anyone has a better strategy.
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Since no one has said this yet, lawyer up. This sub is here to give you pointers, but in the end you need your own attorney, especially when it's about something as substantial an asset as a car. Do this today, do not wait, every day you wait can and will cost you extra money.
I don’t see how they are able to send a car to auction after only 30 days, especially considering they made no effort to contact you or seek payment for towing or storage fees. I don’t believe they can have any kind of legal adverse possession, mechanic’s lien, or any other legal avenue to possess your title and auction your vehicle after only 30 days. As is almost always the case on this sub, I encourage you to contact a local attorney immediately.
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Apt towed my car from its (payed) spot and is now at auction, help :( Hope this is the right place to post, but thats the long story short. I would appreciate suggestions or advice anyone has to offer. The longer version is I live in Denver Colorado in an apartment I’ve been in for over a year. Starting since may I’ve been remote working from home because of the pandemic. In July my mother had a bad fall suffering a compound fracture of her fibula/tibia. She lives in another state. I was able to support her recovery and just generally help her navigate the struggles of being old, temporarily handicapped, and in a pandemic by traveling back and forth working from there. Which was fine because of my remote work situation. I was at her home for two main blocks. The first was right after the emergency from a couple days after when I was able to pick her up after surgeries/three day hospital stay. I stayed for about three weeks, came back to Denver to check on things for another couple weeks and then went back to her place for another 5-6 weeks. I wanted to stay at least until she could be weight bearing, start pt, and drive. This second block is when I was towed. When I got back home I went to my numbered spot in the apts 100$/month private parking garage to find my car not there. After a good amount of confusion I found an email notice about cleaning and repainting the garage and failure to have cars moved during this time would result in them towing the vehicle. Fast forward to when I figure this all out I call the towing company and they tell me that after thirty days they go to auction. When I asked if I could do anything about this and telling her what happened she said that there wasn’t anything I could do. I understand that this is technically on me, I should have been paying attention to my personal email (it’s mostly spam and I have everything set up to auto pay). I’m wondering if anyone had any thoughts/suggestions on my predicament and how I might get my car back or anything? I would really appreciate any feedback. This is too long already but I thought I’d add the details that in my mind at least offer some mitigating factors The car is mine no loans The initial email notice was very vague they notified us Thursday it would be starting Monday and to not park from 9 to 6 there Then the work didn’t start till Tuesday and they just did one floor, that morning they sent out a schedule with each day going on a different lvl each day for power washing 9-6 then around again to painting 9-11pm. However at the end of the next day they postponed the whole project tbd because of poor contracting, and wanted another crew. So at that point I would have already had to move my car for three full days with very little prior irregular warning. They eventually rescheduled it for a week later. my car must have been towed on the first day they said they would be working (even though they didn’t do anything) because the rescheduled dates doesn’t leave 30 days for the tow yard to send it to auction. All of that confusion and not once do I get a call, sms or email that I had been towed or the 30 day period, and yes they have the info we have numbered spots, but of course I owe them 5$ utility fee that wasn’t calculated correctly in to my bill auto pay and they are on me like bounty hunters. It’s been a pretty shitty couple of days and I know I can’t go to these management ppl with hope for compassion to help me out so I’m posting here if anyone has a better strategy.
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OP, I am no lawyer. However, I advise you to seek a lawyer and file a police report, if you haven't done so already. If you wish to press charges and sue for damages, I advise you to look into your legal options.
Not a lawyer, but you're getting a lot of mixed information here, and I would reach out to a lawyer. More than likely, the tow itself was legal. Your car being in the garage hindered (or would have hindered) them from the planned work, and that would've justified the right to move the vehicle, even if you are out of town and not checking your email. As for the auction, it sounds very sketch and I would hire someone with knowledge on Colorado towing laws.
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Apt towed my car from its (payed) spot and is now at auction, help :( Hope this is the right place to post, but thats the long story short. I would appreciate suggestions or advice anyone has to offer. The longer version is I live in Denver Colorado in an apartment I’ve been in for over a year. Starting since may I’ve been remote working from home because of the pandemic. In July my mother had a bad fall suffering a compound fracture of her fibula/tibia. She lives in another state. I was able to support her recovery and just generally help her navigate the struggles of being old, temporarily handicapped, and in a pandemic by traveling back and forth working from there. Which was fine because of my remote work situation. I was at her home for two main blocks. The first was right after the emergency from a couple days after when I was able to pick her up after surgeries/three day hospital stay. I stayed for about three weeks, came back to Denver to check on things for another couple weeks and then went back to her place for another 5-6 weeks. I wanted to stay at least until she could be weight bearing, start pt, and drive. This second block is when I was towed. When I got back home I went to my numbered spot in the apts 100$/month private parking garage to find my car not there. After a good amount of confusion I found an email notice about cleaning and repainting the garage and failure to have cars moved during this time would result in them towing the vehicle. Fast forward to when I figure this all out I call the towing company and they tell me that after thirty days they go to auction. When I asked if I could do anything about this and telling her what happened she said that there wasn’t anything I could do. I understand that this is technically on me, I should have been paying attention to my personal email (it’s mostly spam and I have everything set up to auto pay). I’m wondering if anyone had any thoughts/suggestions on my predicament and how I might get my car back or anything? I would really appreciate any feedback. This is too long already but I thought I’d add the details that in my mind at least offer some mitigating factors The car is mine no loans The initial email notice was very vague they notified us Thursday it would be starting Monday and to not park from 9 to 6 there Then the work didn’t start till Tuesday and they just did one floor, that morning they sent out a schedule with each day going on a different lvl each day for power washing 9-6 then around again to painting 9-11pm. However at the end of the next day they postponed the whole project tbd because of poor contracting, and wanted another crew. So at that point I would have already had to move my car for three full days with very little prior irregular warning. They eventually rescheduled it for a week later. my car must have been towed on the first day they said they would be working (even though they didn’t do anything) because the rescheduled dates doesn’t leave 30 days for the tow yard to send it to auction. All of that confusion and not once do I get a call, sms or email that I had been towed or the 30 day period, and yes they have the info we have numbered spots, but of course I owe them 5$ utility fee that wasn’t calculated correctly in to my bill auto pay and they are on me like bounty hunters. It’s been a pretty shitty couple of days and I know I can’t go to these management ppl with hope for compassion to help me out so I’m posting here if anyone has a better strategy.
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Not a lawyer, but you're getting a lot of mixed information here, and I would reach out to a lawyer. More than likely, the tow itself was legal. Your car being in the garage hindered (or would have hindered) them from the planned work, and that would've justified the right to move the vehicle, even if you are out of town and not checking your email. As for the auction, it sounds very sketch and I would hire someone with knowledge on Colorado towing laws.
It does sound as though they did send you something in the USPS mail and sent you an email (that you admit you ignored) so they did show their good faith attempt effort. Generally at complexes I’ve worked at, they’ll also post a notice to your door as well to show 3 different types of methods of communication were attempted. Granted, they technically only need to use one avenue and everything after that is a courtesy. You could ask them to go at least half with you as a gesture and ask point blank Why no one called you when your car and number are registered in the system. If you live in a very large complex it makes sense why they wouldn’t have called but if it’s something like 250 apts or less then they Could have called but again, that’s a gesture, not a requirement at that point. Keep all your receipts and email communication but it sounds as though it would not work out well to go after your apartment place.
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[Austin, TX] My brother was arrested last night for punching someone in a bar. He is firm that other guy hit him first and it was self defense. He is still in police custody. Not sure what we do next? I live with him. He's 19 and I'm 21. When will he'd be presented before a judge? When will he'd be released from police custody ? How to proceed from here? When will our case be in judge? Do we need a lawyer or judge will release him because it was self defense? (Hopefully, Police would look into cameras at bar and see that guy punch my brother first ) How long would it take to get out of this problem?
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self defense is a defense to a charge, not something initially done at the first hearings (though it may cause the DA to drop the case). at his first hearing the judge will set the bail, terms for release, future hearing date, initial plea (not guilty), and either have an attorney assigned or tell your brother he must find one. unless the DA drops it early on, it will be a long term fight. good luck
Just to add, "he punched first" doesn't end the inquiry on if it was self defense or not. There are many more factors in play. Was there a verbal altercation first? Did your brother raise a fist or make some other action which would make the other person fear imminent bodily harm? After he punched your brother, did the other person stop, disengage, or walk away so that your brother would no longer reasonably fear further injury, but went to "fight back" anyway? Self defense is usually just that - a defense presented during the trial. It's a question for the fact finder (the jury, or judge for a bench trial) during the actual trial. Unless it's so obvious that the prosocuter declines to press charges, he's going to have to go through the full process. He'll typically get arraigned pretty quickly, where he can plea and then post bail. The judge won't dismiss the charges at the arraignment. At that point, if you can't afford a lawyer he can start the process for a public defender.
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[Austin, TX] My brother was arrested last night for punching someone in a bar. He is firm that other guy hit him first and it was self defense. He is still in police custody. Not sure what we do next? I live with him. He's 19 and I'm 21. When will he'd be presented before a judge? When will he'd be released from police custody ? How to proceed from here? When will our case be in judge? Do we need a lawyer or judge will release him because it was self defense? (Hopefully, Police would look into cameras at bar and see that guy punch my brother first ) How long would it take to get out of this problem?
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Likely he will go before a judge between now and Monday. He needs to plead not guilty if asked. He will either be released or given a bail amount and someone will have to pay to get him out. He needs an attorney. Self defense depends on details. He needs an attorney to fight this. It could take months or years before this is done.
Just to add, "he punched first" doesn't end the inquiry on if it was self defense or not. There are many more factors in play. Was there a verbal altercation first? Did your brother raise a fist or make some other action which would make the other person fear imminent bodily harm? After he punched your brother, did the other person stop, disengage, or walk away so that your brother would no longer reasonably fear further injury, but went to "fight back" anyway? Self defense is usually just that - a defense presented during the trial. It's a question for the fact finder (the jury, or judge for a bench trial) during the actual trial. Unless it's so obvious that the prosocuter declines to press charges, he's going to have to go through the full process. He'll typically get arraigned pretty quickly, where he can plea and then post bail. The judge won't dismiss the charges at the arraignment. At that point, if you can't afford a lawyer he can start the process for a public defender.
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[Austin, TX] My brother was arrested last night for punching someone in a bar. He is firm that other guy hit him first and it was self defense. He is still in police custody. Not sure what we do next? I live with him. He's 19 and I'm 21. When will he'd be presented before a judge? When will he'd be released from police custody ? How to proceed from here? When will our case be in judge? Do we need a lawyer or judge will release him because it was self defense? (Hopefully, Police would look into cameras at bar and see that guy punch my brother first ) How long would it take to get out of this problem?
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Likely he will go before a judge between now and Monday. He needs to plead not guilty if asked. He will either be released or given a bail amount and someone will have to pay to get him out. He needs an attorney. Self defense depends on details. He needs an attorney to fight this. It could take months or years before this is done.
self defense is a defense to a charge, not something initially done at the first hearings (though it may cause the DA to drop the case). at his first hearing the judge will set the bail, terms for release, future hearing date, initial plea (not guilty), and either have an attorney assigned or tell your brother he must find one. unless the DA drops it early on, it will be a long term fight. good luck
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[Austin, TX] My brother was arrested last night for punching someone in a bar. He is firm that other guy hit him first and it was self defense. He is still in police custody. Not sure what we do next? I live with him. He's 19 and I'm 21. When will he'd be presented before a judge? When will he'd be released from police custody ? How to proceed from here? When will our case be in judge? Do we need a lawyer or judge will release him because it was self defense? (Hopefully, Police would look into cameras at bar and see that guy punch my brother first ) How long would it take to get out of this problem?
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Did he punch this guy? https://www.reddit.com/r/RBI/comments/3mij9n/went_out_to_party_in_downtown_austin_for_my_first/
This happened to a coworker of mine when we were out drinking once, and I learned that one thing you should definitely do ASAP is check at the bar if they have surveillance tapes. ASAP, because sometimes they will reuse the tapes.
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[Austin, TX] My brother was arrested last night for punching someone in a bar. He is firm that other guy hit him first and it was self defense. He is still in police custody. Not sure what we do next? I live with him. He's 19 and I'm 21. When will he'd be presented before a judge? When will he'd be released from police custody ? How to proceed from here? When will our case be in judge? Do we need a lawyer or judge will release him because it was self defense? (Hopefully, Police would look into cameras at bar and see that guy punch my brother first ) How long would it take to get out of this problem?
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You need to post bail ASAP and retain an attorney. All of the other advice in this sub is irrelevant. No one can predict what will happen.
Did he punch this guy? https://www.reddit.com/r/RBI/comments/3mij9n/went_out_to_party_in_downtown_austin_for_my_first/
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Neighbor requests that I maintain a rock wall along our property line, but he later discovers that the rocks lie entirely on his property This takes place in upstate New York. There is a loose rock wall made of large boulders that runs along one side of my property. I assumed that the property line ran somewhere through the middle of the wall. About 12 years ago, our neighbor on the other side of the wall (angrily) confronted me about maintaining the wall. Because I believed that the wall was partially on my property, and because I wanted to avoid further conflict, I have been pulling weeds and gathering miscellaneous trash between the boulders every year since. The property line is fairly long, so cleaning the rocks is a weekend-long project. My neighbor does not contribute to maintaining the wall. Recently, my neighbor had his property surveyed. He discovered that the property line runs along the edge of the rock wall, with the boulders entirely on his property. Since my neighbor has indicated to me in the past that he believes that the rocks are my responsibility, and since I have been working to maintain the wall for >10 years, do I have any legal claim to the rocks and/or the property the rocks are on?
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I mean you could contact a lawyer to ask about adverse possession. You have certainly met many of the requirements, but it's a complex topic https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/who-can-claim-property-based-adverse-possession-new-york.html
WELP I was seemingly right. https://statelaws.findlaw.com/new-york-law/new-york-adverse-possession-laws.html A 10 year uninterrupted public occupation and maintenance of the land. By all that well congrats after an adverse possession claim, you'll probably be the legal owner of a bunch of rocks lol. Beside the jokes, the ball is in your court. The statue law is seemingly with you so all you have to do is contact a lawyer and file an adverse possession claim.
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Neighbor requests that I maintain a rock wall along our property line, but he later discovers that the rocks lie entirely on his property This takes place in upstate New York. There is a loose rock wall made of large boulders that runs along one side of my property. I assumed that the property line ran somewhere through the middle of the wall. About 12 years ago, our neighbor on the other side of the wall (angrily) confronted me about maintaining the wall. Because I believed that the wall was partially on my property, and because I wanted to avoid further conflict, I have been pulling weeds and gathering miscellaneous trash between the boulders every year since. The property line is fairly long, so cleaning the rocks is a weekend-long project. My neighbor does not contribute to maintaining the wall. Recently, my neighbor had his property surveyed. He discovered that the property line runs along the edge of the rock wall, with the boulders entirely on his property. Since my neighbor has indicated to me in the past that he believes that the rocks are my responsibility, and since I have been working to maintain the wall for >10 years, do I have any legal claim to the rocks and/or the property the rocks are on?
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WELP I was seemingly right. https://statelaws.findlaw.com/new-york-law/new-york-adverse-possession-laws.html A 10 year uninterrupted public occupation and maintenance of the land. By all that well congrats after an adverse possession claim, you'll probably be the legal owner of a bunch of rocks lol. Beside the jokes, the ball is in your court. The statue law is seemingly with you so all you have to do is contact a lawyer and file an adverse possession claim.
Not aware of NY laws but that does sound like an adverse possession claim. In most jurisdictions there is about a 10 year limit and you obviously surpass that so there may be a claim. Best you contact a property lawyer ASAP and ask for an adverse possession claim.
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(Illinois) My aunt died and left me her record collection. I found out some of the records are extremely rare and worth alot of money. Now my relatives are foaming at the mouth trying to get their hands on the records and are threatening to take me to court. Hey reddit... Well, like the title says, we lost my aunt in January. It really wasn't totally unexpected but it was still really hard to deal with. My aunt didn't have any kids of her own, so her nieces and nephews were her kids. She was close to all of us and she was really like a second mom. My aunt loved her vinyl collection and we'd listen to her records and talk about her favorite bands together for as long back as I can remember. Before she died she told me she wanted me to take the records and her turntable and made me promise not to sell them which of course I said I wouldn't. I took them with me at her insistence maybe several days before she passed. Since the funeral I've finally sat down and looked at all the records with my best friend who's a huge vinyl lover. It turns out that some of the records in her collection are worth hundred and or thousands of dollars. It was kind of cool to find that out but again, no big because I promised I wasn't gonna sell. Well I made the mistake of telling my sister....who then told my mom....and now word has leaked out to the other neices and nephews. My mom is telling me that it isn't fair that my aunt left me something so valuable and that it isn't right for me to keep what she says is a small fortune to myself. The others (my aunt's two neices and nephew that aren't my siblings) are saying that I had no right to take the records and that I need to return them before they get the court involved. They said that we can settle the matter out of court if I agree to take the records to an appraiser, sell them, and split the amount from the sales with them with a portion going to everyone and that it's what my aunt would've wanted because she loved all the kids equally. I don't think so. She gave these to me and not them and they just want to sell them because they want the money. My question is can they take me to court? I don't want to sell them but I don't know how any of that works. Help? Anyone? tldr: my aunt left me very rare and valuable records. My family didn't care until they found out how much they were worth. Now they're pissed at me and trying to pressure me to sell them and are threatening to take me to court.
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Is there any question about whether your aunt was competent at that time? Was anyone else there when you had the discussion? Did anyone see you take the items? Did she tell anyone else that she gave the records to you? These questions all go to whether you can *prove* that the records were voluntarily given to you while your Aunt was alive and competent. If you feel confident that you can prove that a gift occurred, then you have nothing to worry about. If you cannot prove it, then they might sue you.
> It turns out that some of the records in her collection are worth hundred and or thousands of dollars. Here's the thing, anyone can put up a rare record for sale for thousands of dollars, it doesn't mean it will sell for thousands of dollars. I've seen SIGNED records by VERY POPULAR BANDS... in MINT CONDITION... sell for... $200... after a year of being on the market. I would bet you that if you had an appraiser value them, he would not buy them for half of his 'appraisal'. Tell them to go pound sand.
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(Illinois) My aunt died and left me her record collection. I found out some of the records are extremely rare and worth alot of money. Now my relatives are foaming at the mouth trying to get their hands on the records and are threatening to take me to court. Hey reddit... Well, like the title says, we lost my aunt in January. It really wasn't totally unexpected but it was still really hard to deal with. My aunt didn't have any kids of her own, so her nieces and nephews were her kids. She was close to all of us and she was really like a second mom. My aunt loved her vinyl collection and we'd listen to her records and talk about her favorite bands together for as long back as I can remember. Before she died she told me she wanted me to take the records and her turntable and made me promise not to sell them which of course I said I wouldn't. I took them with me at her insistence maybe several days before she passed. Since the funeral I've finally sat down and looked at all the records with my best friend who's a huge vinyl lover. It turns out that some of the records in her collection are worth hundred and or thousands of dollars. It was kind of cool to find that out but again, no big because I promised I wasn't gonna sell. Well I made the mistake of telling my sister....who then told my mom....and now word has leaked out to the other neices and nephews. My mom is telling me that it isn't fair that my aunt left me something so valuable and that it isn't right for me to keep what she says is a small fortune to myself. The others (my aunt's two neices and nephew that aren't my siblings) are saying that I had no right to take the records and that I need to return them before they get the court involved. They said that we can settle the matter out of court if I agree to take the records to an appraiser, sell them, and split the amount from the sales with them with a portion going to everyone and that it's what my aunt would've wanted because she loved all the kids equally. I don't think so. She gave these to me and not them and they just want to sell them because they want the money. My question is can they take me to court? I don't want to sell them but I don't know how any of that works. Help? Anyone? tldr: my aunt left me very rare and valuable records. My family didn't care until they found out how much they were worth. Now they're pissed at me and trying to pressure me to sell them and are threatening to take me to court.
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They are only worth what someone is willing to pay for them. Get them appraised. Sell to family for 75%. Have fun watching relatives try to sell them.
Long time record collector here, I was even a power seller on eBay for a time, selling LPS, 45s, CDS, posters, and other memorabilia. There are VERY few records that are worth hundreds, and fewer still that are worth thousands - an Original Unstickered Beatles Butcher Cover in mint, unplayed condition maybe, and I've never seen one. Those that are worth that kind of money would have to be in pristine, mint condition in every way - cover, dust jacket, pressing, label, everything. They would have to be verified first pressing and would probably even have to be in the original shrink wrap. If these records aren't in individual clear plastic sleeves, there is no way they are worth their top value. In addition, many of the most valuable albums have been counterfeited, and a professional collector can spot them in an instant. The most valuable records are probably going to be old original jazz and blues pressings from the 20s-50s, very rare promotional picture discs from the 70s, some promotional colored vinyl pressings from the 70s/80s, verifiable autographed copies from superstar performers (especially if they're dead), Unique test pressings or short run pressings of classic rock & roll stars like Elvis or the Beatles, some audiophile discs from Mobile Fidelity and other high end labels from the 70s - 90s, some numbered limited edition pressings, and some classic Classical pressings like RCAs Shaded Dog pressings of the Chicago Symphony from the 50s, or specific out of print opera recordings from the 50-70s, or a few legendary 78 rpm pressings from the 30s. All of these would need to be in perfect, pristine, unplayed condition, and even then, probably not one of them except the Original Beatles Butcher cover would cross the $1000 line. If the collection you are looking at doesn't have anything like these, and are simply standard pressings that were purchased at a normal neighborhood record store, I would bet a kidney that you don't have anything with a value in the thousands. If they are CDs, there is even less collectible value unless they are promotional only. After that, there is the problem of selling them. Getting the full value out of the collection would take selling them one record at a time, and that could take a long time. There are VERY few buyers of records at the top price point - most people are trying to find big bargains. You would have to put a reserve price on them to keep them from selling too low, and that's an extra charge that has to be paid even if it doesn't sell. You might have to put a record up several times before it finally sells to someone who wants it badly enough to pay top dollar for it. You can get an idea of how much they might go for by searching eBay's database of Sold items and see if a similar one has sold recently; but that presents a problem in itself. Like I said, there are very few buyers willing to pay top dollar, and if one sold recently, then your most desperate buyer is already out of the picture. If there was a bidding war, you might try to contact the second place auction loser and see if he's willing to buy it from you. (Edit: apparently only sellers can see the bidding record) But first you are going to have to be brutally honest with yourself about condition. You are best served by offering it one grade down from the condition you think it's in. That way, if it turns out to be nicer the buyer will be pleased and give you good feedback, rather than pissed that it wasn't quite as pristine as you said, and give you mediocre or poor feedback. So before you go to war with your relatives, you might want to get an independent take on your collection. Find a local dealer/ collector who knows his shit, and take a few albums that you think are worth the most and see what he says. Edit: -Changed the description of the Beatles Butcher Cover from Unpeeled to Unstickered. -Added Blues to the list of valuable recordings
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(Illinois) My aunt died and left me her record collection. I found out some of the records are extremely rare and worth alot of money. Now my relatives are foaming at the mouth trying to get their hands on the records and are threatening to take me to court. Hey reddit... Well, like the title says, we lost my aunt in January. It really wasn't totally unexpected but it was still really hard to deal with. My aunt didn't have any kids of her own, so her nieces and nephews were her kids. She was close to all of us and she was really like a second mom. My aunt loved her vinyl collection and we'd listen to her records and talk about her favorite bands together for as long back as I can remember. Before she died she told me she wanted me to take the records and her turntable and made me promise not to sell them which of course I said I wouldn't. I took them with me at her insistence maybe several days before she passed. Since the funeral I've finally sat down and looked at all the records with my best friend who's a huge vinyl lover. It turns out that some of the records in her collection are worth hundred and or thousands of dollars. It was kind of cool to find that out but again, no big because I promised I wasn't gonna sell. Well I made the mistake of telling my sister....who then told my mom....and now word has leaked out to the other neices and nephews. My mom is telling me that it isn't fair that my aunt left me something so valuable and that it isn't right for me to keep what she says is a small fortune to myself. The others (my aunt's two neices and nephew that aren't my siblings) are saying that I had no right to take the records and that I need to return them before they get the court involved. They said that we can settle the matter out of court if I agree to take the records to an appraiser, sell them, and split the amount from the sales with them with a portion going to everyone and that it's what my aunt would've wanted because she loved all the kids equally. I don't think so. She gave these to me and not them and they just want to sell them because they want the money. My question is can they take me to court? I don't want to sell them but I don't know how any of that works. Help? Anyone? tldr: my aunt left me very rare and valuable records. My family didn't care until they found out how much they were worth. Now they're pissed at me and trying to pressure me to sell them and are threatening to take me to court.
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Great advice in this thread. They can be as unhappy as they wish, but those records are now your property. My advice to you would be to make sure you protect them. If they are this unhappy and willing to take you to court they may be willing to steal them as well. The other option you have is, without telling anyone, consult a lawyer as to the validity of the will. Once you get that advice you'll be much more confident telling them to pound sand.
Long time record collector here, I was even a power seller on eBay for a time, selling LPS, 45s, CDS, posters, and other memorabilia. There are VERY few records that are worth hundreds, and fewer still that are worth thousands - an Original Unstickered Beatles Butcher Cover in mint, unplayed condition maybe, and I've never seen one. Those that are worth that kind of money would have to be in pristine, mint condition in every way - cover, dust jacket, pressing, label, everything. They would have to be verified first pressing and would probably even have to be in the original shrink wrap. If these records aren't in individual clear plastic sleeves, there is no way they are worth their top value. In addition, many of the most valuable albums have been counterfeited, and a professional collector can spot them in an instant. The most valuable records are probably going to be old original jazz and blues pressings from the 20s-50s, very rare promotional picture discs from the 70s, some promotional colored vinyl pressings from the 70s/80s, verifiable autographed copies from superstar performers (especially if they're dead), Unique test pressings or short run pressings of classic rock & roll stars like Elvis or the Beatles, some audiophile discs from Mobile Fidelity and other high end labels from the 70s - 90s, some numbered limited edition pressings, and some classic Classical pressings like RCAs Shaded Dog pressings of the Chicago Symphony from the 50s, or specific out of print opera recordings from the 50-70s, or a few legendary 78 rpm pressings from the 30s. All of these would need to be in perfect, pristine, unplayed condition, and even then, probably not one of them except the Original Beatles Butcher cover would cross the $1000 line. If the collection you are looking at doesn't have anything like these, and are simply standard pressings that were purchased at a normal neighborhood record store, I would bet a kidney that you don't have anything with a value in the thousands. If they are CDs, there is even less collectible value unless they are promotional only. After that, there is the problem of selling them. Getting the full value out of the collection would take selling them one record at a time, and that could take a long time. There are VERY few buyers of records at the top price point - most people are trying to find big bargains. You would have to put a reserve price on them to keep them from selling too low, and that's an extra charge that has to be paid even if it doesn't sell. You might have to put a record up several times before it finally sells to someone who wants it badly enough to pay top dollar for it. You can get an idea of how much they might go for by searching eBay's database of Sold items and see if a similar one has sold recently; but that presents a problem in itself. Like I said, there are very few buyers willing to pay top dollar, and if one sold recently, then your most desperate buyer is already out of the picture. If there was a bidding war, you might try to contact the second place auction loser and see if he's willing to buy it from you. (Edit: apparently only sellers can see the bidding record) But first you are going to have to be brutally honest with yourself about condition. You are best served by offering it one grade down from the condition you think it's in. That way, if it turns out to be nicer the buyer will be pleased and give you good feedback, rather than pissed that it wasn't quite as pristine as you said, and give you mediocre or poor feedback. So before you go to war with your relatives, you might want to get an independent take on your collection. Find a local dealer/ collector who knows his shit, and take a few albums that you think are worth the most and see what he says. Edit: -Changed the description of the Beatles Butcher Cover from Unpeeled to Unstickered. -Added Blues to the list of valuable recordings
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(Illinois) My aunt died and left me her record collection. I found out some of the records are extremely rare and worth alot of money. Now my relatives are foaming at the mouth trying to get their hands on the records and are threatening to take me to court. Hey reddit... Well, like the title says, we lost my aunt in January. It really wasn't totally unexpected but it was still really hard to deal with. My aunt didn't have any kids of her own, so her nieces and nephews were her kids. She was close to all of us and she was really like a second mom. My aunt loved her vinyl collection and we'd listen to her records and talk about her favorite bands together for as long back as I can remember. Before she died she told me she wanted me to take the records and her turntable and made me promise not to sell them which of course I said I wouldn't. I took them with me at her insistence maybe several days before she passed. Since the funeral I've finally sat down and looked at all the records with my best friend who's a huge vinyl lover. It turns out that some of the records in her collection are worth hundred and or thousands of dollars. It was kind of cool to find that out but again, no big because I promised I wasn't gonna sell. Well I made the mistake of telling my sister....who then told my mom....and now word has leaked out to the other neices and nephews. My mom is telling me that it isn't fair that my aunt left me something so valuable and that it isn't right for me to keep what she says is a small fortune to myself. The others (my aunt's two neices and nephew that aren't my siblings) are saying that I had no right to take the records and that I need to return them before they get the court involved. They said that we can settle the matter out of court if I agree to take the records to an appraiser, sell them, and split the amount from the sales with them with a portion going to everyone and that it's what my aunt would've wanted because she loved all the kids equally. I don't think so. She gave these to me and not them and they just want to sell them because they want the money. My question is can they take me to court? I don't want to sell them but I don't know how any of that works. Help? Anyone? tldr: my aunt left me very rare and valuable records. My family didn't care until they found out how much they were worth. Now they're pissed at me and trying to pressure me to sell them and are threatening to take me to court.
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Long time record collector here, I was even a power seller on eBay for a time, selling LPS, 45s, CDS, posters, and other memorabilia. There are VERY few records that are worth hundreds, and fewer still that are worth thousands - an Original Unstickered Beatles Butcher Cover in mint, unplayed condition maybe, and I've never seen one. Those that are worth that kind of money would have to be in pristine, mint condition in every way - cover, dust jacket, pressing, label, everything. They would have to be verified first pressing and would probably even have to be in the original shrink wrap. If these records aren't in individual clear plastic sleeves, there is no way they are worth their top value. In addition, many of the most valuable albums have been counterfeited, and a professional collector can spot them in an instant. The most valuable records are probably going to be old original jazz and blues pressings from the 20s-50s, very rare promotional picture discs from the 70s, some promotional colored vinyl pressings from the 70s/80s, verifiable autographed copies from superstar performers (especially if they're dead), Unique test pressings or short run pressings of classic rock & roll stars like Elvis or the Beatles, some audiophile discs from Mobile Fidelity and other high end labels from the 70s - 90s, some numbered limited edition pressings, and some classic Classical pressings like RCAs Shaded Dog pressings of the Chicago Symphony from the 50s, or specific out of print opera recordings from the 50-70s, or a few legendary 78 rpm pressings from the 30s. All of these would need to be in perfect, pristine, unplayed condition, and even then, probably not one of them except the Original Beatles Butcher cover would cross the $1000 line. If the collection you are looking at doesn't have anything like these, and are simply standard pressings that were purchased at a normal neighborhood record store, I would bet a kidney that you don't have anything with a value in the thousands. If they are CDs, there is even less collectible value unless they are promotional only. After that, there is the problem of selling them. Getting the full value out of the collection would take selling them one record at a time, and that could take a long time. There are VERY few buyers of records at the top price point - most people are trying to find big bargains. You would have to put a reserve price on them to keep them from selling too low, and that's an extra charge that has to be paid even if it doesn't sell. You might have to put a record up several times before it finally sells to someone who wants it badly enough to pay top dollar for it. You can get an idea of how much they might go for by searching eBay's database of Sold items and see if a similar one has sold recently; but that presents a problem in itself. Like I said, there are very few buyers willing to pay top dollar, and if one sold recently, then your most desperate buyer is already out of the picture. If there was a bidding war, you might try to contact the second place auction loser and see if he's willing to buy it from you. (Edit: apparently only sellers can see the bidding record) But first you are going to have to be brutally honest with yourself about condition. You are best served by offering it one grade down from the condition you think it's in. That way, if it turns out to be nicer the buyer will be pleased and give you good feedback, rather than pissed that it wasn't quite as pristine as you said, and give you mediocre or poor feedback. So before you go to war with your relatives, you might want to get an independent take on your collection. Find a local dealer/ collector who knows his shit, and take a few albums that you think are worth the most and see what he says. Edit: -Changed the description of the Beatles Butcher Cover from Unpeeled to Unstickered. -Added Blues to the list of valuable recordings
I don't hang around this sub and don't know what percentage of responders are actually practicing lawyers (I am), but I'm concerned by the blanket advice to "let them sue you." The cost of defending against a lawsuit, even one totally lacking in merit, can be considerable, and has no relationship whatsoever to the actual (or perceived) value of the claim. I've seen this exact scenario play out a hundred times, and family members will not hesitate to exhaust the entire value of an estate...just to make sure the other side doesn't wind up with a dime. It's disgusting, but it's reality. Proceed with caution....I highly recommend a (free) intake phone call with a local attorney.
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(Illinois) My aunt died and left me her record collection. I found out some of the records are extremely rare and worth alot of money. Now my relatives are foaming at the mouth trying to get their hands on the records and are threatening to take me to court. Hey reddit... Well, like the title says, we lost my aunt in January. It really wasn't totally unexpected but it was still really hard to deal with. My aunt didn't have any kids of her own, so her nieces and nephews were her kids. She was close to all of us and she was really like a second mom. My aunt loved her vinyl collection and we'd listen to her records and talk about her favorite bands together for as long back as I can remember. Before she died she told me she wanted me to take the records and her turntable and made me promise not to sell them which of course I said I wouldn't. I took them with me at her insistence maybe several days before she passed. Since the funeral I've finally sat down and looked at all the records with my best friend who's a huge vinyl lover. It turns out that some of the records in her collection are worth hundred and or thousands of dollars. It was kind of cool to find that out but again, no big because I promised I wasn't gonna sell. Well I made the mistake of telling my sister....who then told my mom....and now word has leaked out to the other neices and nephews. My mom is telling me that it isn't fair that my aunt left me something so valuable and that it isn't right for me to keep what she says is a small fortune to myself. The others (my aunt's two neices and nephew that aren't my siblings) are saying that I had no right to take the records and that I need to return them before they get the court involved. They said that we can settle the matter out of court if I agree to take the records to an appraiser, sell them, and split the amount from the sales with them with a portion going to everyone and that it's what my aunt would've wanted because she loved all the kids equally. I don't think so. She gave these to me and not them and they just want to sell them because they want the money. My question is can they take me to court? I don't want to sell them but I don't know how any of that works. Help? Anyone? tldr: my aunt left me very rare and valuable records. My family didn't care until they found out how much they were worth. Now they're pissed at me and trying to pressure me to sell them and are threatening to take me to court.
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Long time record collector here, I was even a power seller on eBay for a time, selling LPS, 45s, CDS, posters, and other memorabilia. There are VERY few records that are worth hundreds, and fewer still that are worth thousands - an Original Unstickered Beatles Butcher Cover in mint, unplayed condition maybe, and I've never seen one. Those that are worth that kind of money would have to be in pristine, mint condition in every way - cover, dust jacket, pressing, label, everything. They would have to be verified first pressing and would probably even have to be in the original shrink wrap. If these records aren't in individual clear plastic sleeves, there is no way they are worth their top value. In addition, many of the most valuable albums have been counterfeited, and a professional collector can spot them in an instant. The most valuable records are probably going to be old original jazz and blues pressings from the 20s-50s, very rare promotional picture discs from the 70s, some promotional colored vinyl pressings from the 70s/80s, verifiable autographed copies from superstar performers (especially if they're dead), Unique test pressings or short run pressings of classic rock & roll stars like Elvis or the Beatles, some audiophile discs from Mobile Fidelity and other high end labels from the 70s - 90s, some numbered limited edition pressings, and some classic Classical pressings like RCAs Shaded Dog pressings of the Chicago Symphony from the 50s, or specific out of print opera recordings from the 50-70s, or a few legendary 78 rpm pressings from the 30s. All of these would need to be in perfect, pristine, unplayed condition, and even then, probably not one of them except the Original Beatles Butcher cover would cross the $1000 line. If the collection you are looking at doesn't have anything like these, and are simply standard pressings that were purchased at a normal neighborhood record store, I would bet a kidney that you don't have anything with a value in the thousands. If they are CDs, there is even less collectible value unless they are promotional only. After that, there is the problem of selling them. Getting the full value out of the collection would take selling them one record at a time, and that could take a long time. There are VERY few buyers of records at the top price point - most people are trying to find big bargains. You would have to put a reserve price on them to keep them from selling too low, and that's an extra charge that has to be paid even if it doesn't sell. You might have to put a record up several times before it finally sells to someone who wants it badly enough to pay top dollar for it. You can get an idea of how much they might go for by searching eBay's database of Sold items and see if a similar one has sold recently; but that presents a problem in itself. Like I said, there are very few buyers willing to pay top dollar, and if one sold recently, then your most desperate buyer is already out of the picture. If there was a bidding war, you might try to contact the second place auction loser and see if he's willing to buy it from you. (Edit: apparently only sellers can see the bidding record) But first you are going to have to be brutally honest with yourself about condition. You are best served by offering it one grade down from the condition you think it's in. That way, if it turns out to be nicer the buyer will be pleased and give you good feedback, rather than pissed that it wasn't quite as pristine as you said, and give you mediocre or poor feedback. So before you go to war with your relatives, you might want to get an independent take on your collection. Find a local dealer/ collector who knows his shit, and take a few albums that you think are worth the most and see what he says. Edit: -Changed the description of the Beatles Butcher Cover from Unpeeled to Unstickered. -Added Blues to the list of valuable recordings
She gave you a gift. It's yours.
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(Illinois) My aunt died and left me her record collection. I found out some of the records are extremely rare and worth alot of money. Now my relatives are foaming at the mouth trying to get their hands on the records and are threatening to take me to court. Hey reddit... Well, like the title says, we lost my aunt in January. It really wasn't totally unexpected but it was still really hard to deal with. My aunt didn't have any kids of her own, so her nieces and nephews were her kids. She was close to all of us and she was really like a second mom. My aunt loved her vinyl collection and we'd listen to her records and talk about her favorite bands together for as long back as I can remember. Before she died she told me she wanted me to take the records and her turntable and made me promise not to sell them which of course I said I wouldn't. I took them with me at her insistence maybe several days before she passed. Since the funeral I've finally sat down and looked at all the records with my best friend who's a huge vinyl lover. It turns out that some of the records in her collection are worth hundred and or thousands of dollars. It was kind of cool to find that out but again, no big because I promised I wasn't gonna sell. Well I made the mistake of telling my sister....who then told my mom....and now word has leaked out to the other neices and nephews. My mom is telling me that it isn't fair that my aunt left me something so valuable and that it isn't right for me to keep what she says is a small fortune to myself. The others (my aunt's two neices and nephew that aren't my siblings) are saying that I had no right to take the records and that I need to return them before they get the court involved. They said that we can settle the matter out of court if I agree to take the records to an appraiser, sell them, and split the amount from the sales with them with a portion going to everyone and that it's what my aunt would've wanted because she loved all the kids equally. I don't think so. She gave these to me and not them and they just want to sell them because they want the money. My question is can they take me to court? I don't want to sell them but I don't know how any of that works. Help? Anyone? tldr: my aunt left me very rare and valuable records. My family didn't care until they found out how much they were worth. Now they're pissed at me and trying to pressure me to sell them and are threatening to take me to court.
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Great advice in this thread. They can be as unhappy as they wish, but those records are now your property. My advice to you would be to make sure you protect them. If they are this unhappy and willing to take you to court they may be willing to steal them as well. The other option you have is, without telling anyone, consult a lawyer as to the validity of the will. Once you get that advice you'll be much more confident telling them to pound sand.
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(NC) My landlord is having a dispute with his family over the property I am renting and I am caught in the middle and don't know who to pay my rent to This is an interesting situation that I'm not really sure how to navigate. I've been renting my current residence for almost 3 years now. I have been paying rent to a Real Estate company that manages the property for the landlord. When I have had any issues, I always contact the property manager at the real estate company. I also have been making my rent out to the real estate company for the duration that lived here so far. About 2 months, a man came to my house and basically told me that he is part owner of the house and that he wanted a copy of my lease, and that the current landlord is his brother and is legally screwing him over by not dividing the rent up between all of their siblings. (there are 5 siblings) I was really sketched out by this situation, and refused to give him my lease as I didn't know who the hell he was. I gave him the name of the real estate company that I pay my rent to and told him if what he is saying is true then he needs to deal with them. I then contacted the property manager and she told me to call the cops if the guy comes back. I didn't hear anything more about the situation until a few weeks ago. I was contacted by the property manager and she stated that she would no longer be managing the property, and the guy that came by my house a couple months ago was in fact a part owner. She told me that she would contact me on how to send rent at the end of the month. A few days later I get a call from the guy that I have known to be the landlord/owner of the house since the day that I have lived there. He informed me that I would now be paying rent to him directly instead of sending it to the real estate company. Literally a few hours later I get a call from the property manager of the real estate company, and she tells me not to send any money to him, and that the brother who is also part owner would contact me on the best way to pay rent. The brother calls me and he asks me to send 5 separate checks to all of the siblings dividing up the rent evenly this month as a temporary measure until they can figure all of this out. The property manager of the real estate company tells me this is legitimate. Because I have been paying her for the duration of the time i have stayed here and she since she is the only person I have had direct contact with, I felt like she was the person I should trust in this situation. So this month I made out 5 separate checks to pay all of the siblings. Today I got a call from the "original" landlord, and he's upset that I only sent him a fifth of the rent. I explain the situation, and tell him I am caught in the middle of their dispute and am being pulled in many different directions and I'm not sure what to do. He tells me because his name is the one that I signed the lease with that I am obligated to pay him all of the rent and nobody else. He sympathized with my position however, and apologized for me being caught in the middle. He is correct, his name is on my lease. But so is the "former" property manager. So I'm not really sure what to do. According to the property manager, the brother who says he is part owner is in the right and they are all going to court over this to resolve the issue. In the mean time, I don't know who the hell to pay. The easy solution would be just to fucking move, but honestly where I live there is basically nowhere to rent pretty much ever, believe me I have been looking constantly. So I am stuck in this current situation until something finally pops up. I'm really not sure what to do, any advice would be very helpful. And if I need to provide anymore information please let me know.
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You either continue to follow the terms of the lease and write checks to only that name or if it is unclear who should be paid you set up a separate bank account and pay your rent to that account until proper ownership is established. If they try to evict for non-payment you explain your reason for non-payment and show you've properly set asside rent, you can issue payment to whatever party the court deems appropriate.
Legally, you must pay rent to the name on the lease and may only change this if presented with a court order. The conflict between the family is to be settled between them. The landlord with the contract with the property manager is the one who has to pay his sibling or siblings, not you. You only need to pay who your lease says to make checks to, and until a judge says otherwise, is the only one you may pay. If you are given conflicting orders by the property manager, you may pay your rent into an escrow account in NY. I would probably not advise this though. Pay the real estate agent/manager, and say you are not comfortable changing unless either (a) they give you written notice of who to pay your rent to, in ONE check, or (b) you are served with a court order changing payee. You can not change in verbal notice. You need the notice, and you need to keep a copy.
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Closing Doctors Office Gave my Medical Records to a stranger In August 2019, our family doctor announced they were closing. If patients wanted to pick up their records, they just had to call and the front desk would get them ready. Pickup however was 12-3 and I work at a school so I authorized my mother to be a recipient. She goes to pick them up and they cannot find them. I’m a 25 year old relatively healthy male who had gone to the same doctor since I was like 7, so I only wanted them just to have them. So my mom goes to pick them up and they cannot locate them. They told my mom they had them ready but couldn’t find them. They printed her out some vague chart that had *some* info on it but wasn’t my complete record. At that point we were like “whatever, guess they were lost” Fast forward to Wednesday, March 25th 2020. I get a call from a random dude saying that he was cleaning out his car and had discovered his records that he’d picked up months ago on the floor. After bringing them inside, he noticed something about allergy shots. Having never gotten allergy shots, he realized something was up. Luckily my phone number and address were on it so he could contact me. Nice dude, thankful he reached out to me. Though nothing compromising or embarrassing was in the records, I feel like this was a major fuck up from a doctors office and was wondering if I had any recourse
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You can complain to Health and Human Services, but HIPAA violations do not include a cause of action that you can sue the doctor's office. HHS levies fines for egregious violations or poor policy, but that money doesn't go to you.
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Closing Doctors Office Gave my Medical Records to a stranger In August 2019, our family doctor announced they were closing. If patients wanted to pick up their records, they just had to call and the front desk would get them ready. Pickup however was 12-3 and I work at a school so I authorized my mother to be a recipient. She goes to pick them up and they cannot find them. I’m a 25 year old relatively healthy male who had gone to the same doctor since I was like 7, so I only wanted them just to have them. So my mom goes to pick them up and they cannot locate them. They told my mom they had them ready but couldn’t find them. They printed her out some vague chart that had *some* info on it but wasn’t my complete record. At that point we were like “whatever, guess they were lost” Fast forward to Wednesday, March 25th 2020. I get a call from a random dude saying that he was cleaning out his car and had discovered his records that he’d picked up months ago on the floor. After bringing them inside, he noticed something about allergy shots. Having never gotten allergy shots, he realized something was up. Luckily my phone number and address were on it so he could contact me. Nice dude, thankful he reached out to me. Though nothing compromising or embarrassing was in the records, I feel like this was a major fuck up from a doctors office and was wondering if I had any recourse
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You don't reveal your location. But some states have a common law action for breaches of privacy.
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Closing Doctors Office Gave my Medical Records to a stranger In August 2019, our family doctor announced they were closing. If patients wanted to pick up their records, they just had to call and the front desk would get them ready. Pickup however was 12-3 and I work at a school so I authorized my mother to be a recipient. She goes to pick them up and they cannot find them. I’m a 25 year old relatively healthy male who had gone to the same doctor since I was like 7, so I only wanted them just to have them. So my mom goes to pick them up and they cannot locate them. They told my mom they had them ready but couldn’t find them. They printed her out some vague chart that had *some* info on it but wasn’t my complete record. At that point we were like “whatever, guess they were lost” Fast forward to Wednesday, March 25th 2020. I get a call from a random dude saying that he was cleaning out his car and had discovered his records that he’d picked up months ago on the floor. After bringing them inside, he noticed something about allergy shots. Having never gotten allergy shots, he realized something was up. Luckily my phone number and address were on it so he could contact me. Nice dude, thankful he reached out to me. Though nothing compromising or embarrassing was in the records, I feel like this was a major fuck up from a doctors office and was wondering if I had any recourse
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Fortunately, it sounds like you didn't suffer any harm from the office's failure to give you your file and the office's unauthorized publication/ disclosure of your private/health-related information. But someone who needed his records to prove he in fact received a specific vaccination or whose file contained a socially stigmatizing diagnosis like a SDT, AIDS, substance abuse may not have been so fortunate. And, identity theft is a always a risk in the situation you describe (all states have data-breach laws addressing that issue). HIPAA overrides or preempts state/other federal privacy laws that are less privacy-protective and leaves the common law and privacy statutes that are more privacy-protective in effect. So, if a person in your situation suffered real damage, they could have a remedy but it would depend on the specific damage and the laws of the state where it happened. ETA data breach
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My doctor put inaccurate information in my medical records and almost cost me my job North Carolina - So I'll preface by saying I am active duty military and got a referral off base to see a Neurologist to get MRIS and an EMG done. After all this was done I spent almost two weeks asking them every day to fax my medical records back to my PCM so he could review and further provide care for me. They finally did and I opened them immediately and saw that my Doctor put in his notes that I told him I use Marijuana and he advised me to stop. I never used Marijuana and never told him I did. I was never even asked, all I was asked about was did I smoke to which I replied yes I vape but its nicotine and the % and how often. Ironically that wasn't in my notes at all. I had to call my leadership and report this which luckily they believed me and now will be forced to take a drug test which I know I'll pass to prove my innocence. But I called the Neurologist and left a message as I've done at least ten times before and they usually call back in 10-15 minutes and they didn't call. So two hours later I call again and again reiterate what happened and that it desperately needs to be fixed today before I'm under investigation, and lose my clearance and can't work. Two more hours go by and I called a third time and this time said I wanted to pay a bill and got put through immediately and told them I needed to speak to my doctor and it was urgent and my calls weren't being returned. After explaining everything to the receptionist she puts me on hold and transfers me to records management because they apparently deal with corrections and the first thing this lady said was it could take months but she'll pull up my records and look anyway. As shes looking shes saying she can't see it anywhere and I have it in front of me so I tell her exactly where it is and on her copy "it isn't there." I asked who can edit it and she said only the doctor but they were showing no edits on their end so I requested her copy and got that and she assured me my copy must be wrong because they don't have any record of those two sentences in theres. So once I get the correct copy and get off the phone I see I have a voicemail from my Neurologists nurse admitting that he made a mistake and accidentally put that in there and he went ahead and took it out. If I didn't see this yesterday I most likely would have been arrested this morning at the gate trying to explain something I didn't know about. I could have lost my job, been put under investigation, had pay withheld, lost everything I own and been sent to a military prison because he accidentally wrote that in there. This has been an extremely stressful two days dealing with everyone from my commander down wanting to know whats going on and my PCM is telling me I need to tell my insurance because that neurologist committed a HIPPA violation and needs to be investigated. Do I have any grounds for a lawsuit here?
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No, you have no actual damages. Also, for the military none of that would happen. You would have been investigated and had a command directed urinalysis. You wouldn't have been arrested at the gate, the military doesn't hold pay unless you owe money or you receive non-judicial punishment. Which again occurs after an investigation. You certainly would not go to prison for smoking Marijuana at worst a BCD. The information goes to the PCM and is only shared with your command as required to determine your fitness for duty and any special position related requirements. I understand it's emotional to think about the what if's, but nothing happened. The doctor identified his mistake and corrected it. It's not a HIPAA violation, just a charting error that was resolved. If you are still concerned, contact the ombudsman at the hospital group the neurologist works at and give your complaint.
Grounds for a lawsuit? For what damages? 2 days of stress? Unlikely.
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My doctor put inaccurate information in my medical records and almost cost me my job North Carolina - So I'll preface by saying I am active duty military and got a referral off base to see a Neurologist to get MRIS and an EMG done. After all this was done I spent almost two weeks asking them every day to fax my medical records back to my PCM so he could review and further provide care for me. They finally did and I opened them immediately and saw that my Doctor put in his notes that I told him I use Marijuana and he advised me to stop. I never used Marijuana and never told him I did. I was never even asked, all I was asked about was did I smoke to which I replied yes I vape but its nicotine and the % and how often. Ironically that wasn't in my notes at all. I had to call my leadership and report this which luckily they believed me and now will be forced to take a drug test which I know I'll pass to prove my innocence. But I called the Neurologist and left a message as I've done at least ten times before and they usually call back in 10-15 minutes and they didn't call. So two hours later I call again and again reiterate what happened and that it desperately needs to be fixed today before I'm under investigation, and lose my clearance and can't work. Two more hours go by and I called a third time and this time said I wanted to pay a bill and got put through immediately and told them I needed to speak to my doctor and it was urgent and my calls weren't being returned. After explaining everything to the receptionist she puts me on hold and transfers me to records management because they apparently deal with corrections and the first thing this lady said was it could take months but she'll pull up my records and look anyway. As shes looking shes saying she can't see it anywhere and I have it in front of me so I tell her exactly where it is and on her copy "it isn't there." I asked who can edit it and she said only the doctor but they were showing no edits on their end so I requested her copy and got that and she assured me my copy must be wrong because they don't have any record of those two sentences in theres. So once I get the correct copy and get off the phone I see I have a voicemail from my Neurologists nurse admitting that he made a mistake and accidentally put that in there and he went ahead and took it out. If I didn't see this yesterday I most likely would have been arrested this morning at the gate trying to explain something I didn't know about. I could have lost my job, been put under investigation, had pay withheld, lost everything I own and been sent to a military prison because he accidentally wrote that in there. This has been an extremely stressful two days dealing with everyone from my commander down wanting to know whats going on and my PCM is telling me I need to tell my insurance because that neurologist committed a HIPPA violation and needs to be investigated. Do I have any grounds for a lawsuit here?
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--- > http://imgur.com/a/myIAb --- *I am a bot whose sole purpose is to improve the timeliness and accuracy of responses in this subreddit.* --- **It appears you forgot to include your location in the title or body of your post. Please update the body of your original post to include this information.** --- ***Do NOT delete this post - Instead, simply edit the post with the requested information.*** --- Author: /u/WorldMeetBoy Title: **My doctor put inaccurate information in my medical records and almost cost me my job** Original Post: > So I'll preface by saying I am active duty military and got a referral off base to see a Neurologist to get MRIS and an EMG done. After all this was done I spent almost two weeks asking them every day to fax my medical records back to my PCM so he could review and further provide care for me. They finally did and I opened them immediately and saw that my Doctor put in his notes that I told him I use Marijuana and he advised me to stop. I never used Marijuana and never told him I did. I was never even asked, all I was asked about was did I smoke to which I replied yes I vape but its nicotine and the % and how often. Ironically that wasn't in my notes at all. I had to call my leadership and report this which luckily they believed me and now will be forced to take a drug test which I know I'll pass to prove my innocence. But I called the Neurologist and left a message as I've done at least ten times before and they usually call back in 10-15 minutes and they didn't call. So two hours later I call again and again reiterate what happened and that it desperately needs to be fixed today before I'm under investigation, and lose my clearance and can't work. Two more hours go by and I called a third time and this time said I wanted to pay a bill and got put through immediately and told them I needed to speak to my doctor and it was urgent and my calls weren't being returned. After explaining everything to the receptionist she puts me on hold and transfers me to records management because they apparently deal with corrections and the first thing this lady said was it could take months but she'll pull up my records and look anyway. As shes looking shes saying she can't see it anywhere and I have it in front of me so I tell her exactly where it is and on her copy "it isn't there." I asked who can edit it and she said only the doctor but they were showing no edits on their end so I requested her copy and got that and she assured me my copy must be wrong because they don't have any record of those two sentences in theres. So once I get the correct copy and get off the phone I see I have a voicemail from my Neurologists nurse admitting that he made a mistake and accidentally put that in there and he went ahead and took it out. If I didn't see this yesterday I most likely would have been arrested this morning at the gate trying to explain something I didn't know about. I could have lost my job, been put under investigation, had pay withheld, lost everything I own and been sent to a military prison because he accidentally wrote that in there. This has been an extremely stressful two days dealing with everyone from my commander down wanting to know whats going on and my PCM is telling me I need to tell my insurance because that neurologist committed a HIPPA violation and needs to be investigated. Do I have any grounds for a lawsuit here? --- LocationBot 4.999988713 83/601rds | Report Issues | >!TdUO5NmMWlXWXJFcjJzZ!<
No, you have no actual damages. Also, for the military none of that would happen. You would have been investigated and had a command directed urinalysis. You wouldn't have been arrested at the gate, the military doesn't hold pay unless you owe money or you receive non-judicial punishment. Which again occurs after an investigation. You certainly would not go to prison for smoking Marijuana at worst a BCD. The information goes to the PCM and is only shared with your command as required to determine your fitness for duty and any special position related requirements. I understand it's emotional to think about the what if's, but nothing happened. The doctor identified his mistake and corrected it. It's not a HIPAA violation, just a charting error that was resolved. If you are still concerned, contact the ombudsman at the hospital group the neurologist works at and give your complaint.
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--- > http://imgur.com/a/myIAb --- *I am a bot whose sole purpose is to improve the timeliness and accuracy of responses in this subreddit.* --- **It appears you forgot to include your location in the title or body of your post. Please update the body of your original post to include this information.** --- ***Do NOT delete this post - Instead, simply edit the post with the requested information.*** --- Author: /u/WorldMeetBoy Title: **My doctor put inaccurate information in my medical records and almost cost me my job** Original Post: > So I'll preface by saying I am active duty military and got a referral off base to see a Neurologist to get MRIS and an EMG done. After all this was done I spent almost two weeks asking them every day to fax my medical records back to my PCM so he could review and further provide care for me. They finally did and I opened them immediately and saw that my Doctor put in his notes that I told him I use Marijuana and he advised me to stop. I never used Marijuana and never told him I did. I was never even asked, all I was asked about was did I smoke to which I replied yes I vape but its nicotine and the % and how often. Ironically that wasn't in my notes at all. I had to call my leadership and report this which luckily they believed me and now will be forced to take a drug test which I know I'll pass to prove my innocence. But I called the Neurologist and left a message as I've done at least ten times before and they usually call back in 10-15 minutes and they didn't call. So two hours later I call again and again reiterate what happened and that it desperately needs to be fixed today before I'm under investigation, and lose my clearance and can't work. Two more hours go by and I called a third time and this time said I wanted to pay a bill and got put through immediately and told them I needed to speak to my doctor and it was urgent and my calls weren't being returned. After explaining everything to the receptionist she puts me on hold and transfers me to records management because they apparently deal with corrections and the first thing this lady said was it could take months but she'll pull up my records and look anyway. As shes looking shes saying she can't see it anywhere and I have it in front of me so I tell her exactly where it is and on her copy "it isn't there." I asked who can edit it and she said only the doctor but they were showing no edits on their end so I requested her copy and got that and she assured me my copy must be wrong because they don't have any record of those two sentences in theres. So once I get the correct copy and get off the phone I see I have a voicemail from my Neurologists nurse admitting that he made a mistake and accidentally put that in there and he went ahead and took it out. If I didn't see this yesterday I most likely would have been arrested this morning at the gate trying to explain something I didn't know about. I could have lost my job, been put under investigation, had pay withheld, lost everything I own and been sent to a military prison because he accidentally wrote that in there. This has been an extremely stressful two days dealing with everyone from my commander down wanting to know whats going on and my PCM is telling me I need to tell my insurance because that neurologist committed a HIPPA violation and needs to be investigated. Do I have any grounds for a lawsuit here? --- LocationBot 4.999988713 83/601rds | Report Issues | >!TdUO5NmMWlXWXJFcjJzZ!<
Grounds for a lawsuit? For what damages? 2 days of stress? Unlikely.
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My doctor put inaccurate information in my medical records and almost cost me my job North Carolina - So I'll preface by saying I am active duty military and got a referral off base to see a Neurologist to get MRIS and an EMG done. After all this was done I spent almost two weeks asking them every day to fax my medical records back to my PCM so he could review and further provide care for me. They finally did and I opened them immediately and saw that my Doctor put in his notes that I told him I use Marijuana and he advised me to stop. I never used Marijuana and never told him I did. I was never even asked, all I was asked about was did I smoke to which I replied yes I vape but its nicotine and the % and how often. Ironically that wasn't in my notes at all. I had to call my leadership and report this which luckily they believed me and now will be forced to take a drug test which I know I'll pass to prove my innocence. But I called the Neurologist and left a message as I've done at least ten times before and they usually call back in 10-15 minutes and they didn't call. So two hours later I call again and again reiterate what happened and that it desperately needs to be fixed today before I'm under investigation, and lose my clearance and can't work. Two more hours go by and I called a third time and this time said I wanted to pay a bill and got put through immediately and told them I needed to speak to my doctor and it was urgent and my calls weren't being returned. After explaining everything to the receptionist she puts me on hold and transfers me to records management because they apparently deal with corrections and the first thing this lady said was it could take months but she'll pull up my records and look anyway. As shes looking shes saying she can't see it anywhere and I have it in front of me so I tell her exactly where it is and on her copy "it isn't there." I asked who can edit it and she said only the doctor but they were showing no edits on their end so I requested her copy and got that and she assured me my copy must be wrong because they don't have any record of those two sentences in theres. So once I get the correct copy and get off the phone I see I have a voicemail from my Neurologists nurse admitting that he made a mistake and accidentally put that in there and he went ahead and took it out. If I didn't see this yesterday I most likely would have been arrested this morning at the gate trying to explain something I didn't know about. I could have lost my job, been put under investigation, had pay withheld, lost everything I own and been sent to a military prison because he accidentally wrote that in there. This has been an extremely stressful two days dealing with everyone from my commander down wanting to know whats going on and my PCM is telling me I need to tell my insurance because that neurologist committed a HIPPA violation and needs to be investigated. Do I have any grounds for a lawsuit here?
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--- > http://imgur.com/a/myIAb --- *I am a bot whose sole purpose is to improve the timeliness and accuracy of responses in this subreddit.* --- **It appears you forgot to include your location in the title or body of your post. Please update the body of your original post to include this information.** --- ***Do NOT delete this post - Instead, simply edit the post with the requested information.*** --- Author: /u/WorldMeetBoy Title: **My doctor put inaccurate information in my medical records and almost cost me my job** Original Post: > So I'll preface by saying I am active duty military and got a referral off base to see a Neurologist to get MRIS and an EMG done. After all this was done I spent almost two weeks asking them every day to fax my medical records back to my PCM so he could review and further provide care for me. They finally did and I opened them immediately and saw that my Doctor put in his notes that I told him I use Marijuana and he advised me to stop. I never used Marijuana and never told him I did. I was never even asked, all I was asked about was did I smoke to which I replied yes I vape but its nicotine and the % and how often. Ironically that wasn't in my notes at all. I had to call my leadership and report this which luckily they believed me and now will be forced to take a drug test which I know I'll pass to prove my innocence. But I called the Neurologist and left a message as I've done at least ten times before and they usually call back in 10-15 minutes and they didn't call. So two hours later I call again and again reiterate what happened and that it desperately needs to be fixed today before I'm under investigation, and lose my clearance and can't work. Two more hours go by and I called a third time and this time said I wanted to pay a bill and got put through immediately and told them I needed to speak to my doctor and it was urgent and my calls weren't being returned. After explaining everything to the receptionist she puts me on hold and transfers me to records management because they apparently deal with corrections and the first thing this lady said was it could take months but she'll pull up my records and look anyway. As shes looking shes saying she can't see it anywhere and I have it in front of me so I tell her exactly where it is and on her copy "it isn't there." I asked who can edit it and she said only the doctor but they were showing no edits on their end so I requested her copy and got that and she assured me my copy must be wrong because they don't have any record of those two sentences in theres. So once I get the correct copy and get off the phone I see I have a voicemail from my Neurologists nurse admitting that he made a mistake and accidentally put that in there and he went ahead and took it out. If I didn't see this yesterday I most likely would have been arrested this morning at the gate trying to explain something I didn't know about. I could have lost my job, been put under investigation, had pay withheld, lost everything I own and been sent to a military prison because he accidentally wrote that in there. This has been an extremely stressful two days dealing with everyone from my commander down wanting to know whats going on and my PCM is telling me I need to tell my insurance because that neurologist committed a HIPPA violation and needs to be investigated. Do I have any grounds for a lawsuit here? --- LocationBot 4.999988713 83/601rds | Report Issues | >!TdUO5NmMWlXWXJFcjJzZ!<
Nothing you mentioned here sounds like a HIPAA violation. You can file a complaint to the state medical board.
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Gym membership forged a contract in my name??? Now turned me into collections? Alright to start out, I’m from Kansas City. I wanted a gym membership and decided to try Genesis Health Clubs. I didn’t want a contract so I signed up paying a little more for month to month so I could cancel if I needed. I am a contractor who travels a lot. I used the gym for about 8 months then began a 13 month St. Louis contract. I thought I’d use the membership when I could but never had time. I go to cancel because it’s not used and they require you to come in and sign papers to close, but they never have a manager there to sign the documents. 5 times attempted. Finally I get ahold of someone. Now they say I’m under contract for a 24 month deal. Then say I haven’t paid them. This is news to me. When I ask to see a copy of the contract I was told that they sent me with one on my sign up date. (Not true). Finally we cleared it all up I talked to corporate so all is good. At this point I switch to a new credit union closing my old bank accounts (which require a check to make sure nothing is to pull out of the accounts before closing). All goes well until I receive a letter saying I will be turned into collections saying I signed up and have failed to pay for a 2 1/2 year contract??? When I said I want proof of a contract, they finally sent me some sorry attempt of document with none of my personal information outside my email (no social filled out or anything) and the signature line is filled in with initials which are not my handwriting. My initials are ZR and are always the same with a looped R and these are clearly not mine. This document is vertically left blank outside of the auto fill. I think this document is forged. What should I do? Any help would be greatly appreciated! I want to also thank you for reading this long paragraph!
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I'm not a lawyer but forgery of your signature is a very serious problem and you should contact the police as soon as possible. Who knows what other unsavoury shenanigans they may choose to pull off
you need the police and a lawyer
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Gym Closed Down, paid for a yearly membership 3 months ago. Any recourse? Hi there, I joined a gym 2 months ago in NYC and was urged to purchase a yearly membership. I did it to hold myself accountable to actually go to the gym (it worked) but when I went a few days ago there was a notice that "due to litigation with our landlord we are forced to close down". &#x200B; The notice said that they partnered with a Gym 10 blocks away where we could continue working out, but I talked to them and they said that was a lie, but we could receive discounts on a membership. &#x200B; I wanted to know if there is any recourse to get my money ($500\~) back for the yearly membership. I think I am SOL, but I want to at least try, and be a serious pain in their ass if anything. Their website is igfithealthclub.com Thanks so much, wishing a happy and healthy new year to all.
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Did you pay with a credit card or check/direct withdrawl?
Sounds like they owe you the money back if they closed voluntarily, but if enough people make claims it could force them into bankruptcy and you’d essentially be an unsecured creditor, and may be SOL.
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Gym Closed Down, paid for a yearly membership 3 months ago. Any recourse? Hi there, I joined a gym 2 months ago in NYC and was urged to purchase a yearly membership. I did it to hold myself accountable to actually go to the gym (it worked) but when I went a few days ago there was a notice that "due to litigation with our landlord we are forced to close down". &#x200B; The notice said that they partnered with a Gym 10 blocks away where we could continue working out, but I talked to them and they said that was a lie, but we could receive discounts on a membership. &#x200B; I wanted to know if there is any recourse to get my money ($500\~) back for the yearly membership. I think I am SOL, but I want to at least try, and be a serious pain in their ass if anything. Their website is igfithealthclub.com Thanks so much, wishing a happy and healthy new year to all.
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Did you pay with a credit card or check/direct withdrawl?
Either a chargeback or small claims court may be your best bet, but it depends on what the contract you signed says. There’s a decent chance it says they owe you nothing if they close.
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I moved house 7 years ago, and my bank sent a visa card to my old address. The new resident has been using it for the entire time. I only found out now. Can I do anything about it ?
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Call the police, report the fraud. Call the CC company with the police file number and have the card locked. Then let them do their jobs.
call the police and the bank?
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I moved house 7 years ago, and my bank sent a visa card to my old address. The new resident has been using it for the entire time. I only found out now. Can I do anything about it ?
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Call the police, report the fraud. Call the CC company with the police file number and have the card locked. Then let them do their jobs.
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I moved house 7 years ago, and my bank sent a visa card to my old address. The new resident has been using it for the entire time. I only found out now. Can I do anything about it ?
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call the police and the bank?
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I moved house 7 years ago, and my bank sent a visa card to my old address. The new resident has been using it for the entire time. I only found out now. Can I do anything about it ?
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You should call the police immediately. You should then call your bank and explain. How are you just finding out about this?
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My 19 year old son is dating a 14 year old. What should I do? My son is 19 and he's dating a 14 year old girl. I told him that he's an adult and that he can't date a minor but he told me "I'm not an adult I'm a teenager would you rather me date a 46 year old? If you say yes to that and two teenagers being together then you need to get a grip on reality". Her parents are aware and do not approve especially her father. What should I do? We live in California.
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What do you mean dating? Dating isn't illegal. Sex however would be a felony and he could spend three years in prison, pay a $10,000 fine, with a felony record for life. And on the sex offender registry.
California does not have Romeo and Juliet laws. Anyone under 18 is considered a minor and anyone 18 and older is an adult.
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My 19 year old son is dating a 14 year old. What should I do? My son is 19 and he's dating a 14 year old girl. I told him that he's an adult and that he can't date a minor but he told me "I'm not an adult I'm a teenager would you rather me date a 46 year old? If you say yes to that and two teenagers being together then you need to get a grip on reality". Her parents are aware and do not approve especially her father. What should I do? We live in California.
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California does not have Romeo and Juliet laws. Anyone under 18 is considered a minor and anyone 18 and older is an adult.
Dating isn't illegal. She cannot consent to sexual contact so he can get in trouble in that regards. He's an adult so ultimately it's his decision to potentially wreck his life. All you can do is warn him.
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My 19 year old son is dating a 14 year old. What should I do? My son is 19 and he's dating a 14 year old girl. I told him that he's an adult and that he can't date a minor but he told me "I'm not an adult I'm a teenager would you rather me date a 46 year old? If you say yes to that and two teenagers being together then you need to get a grip on reality". Her parents are aware and do not approve especially her father. What should I do? We live in California.
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Tell him about the laws relevant to your area and explain what makes you uncomfortable about his relationship. If her parents threaten legal action let him know that you will not help him avoid accountability in any way (ex: you're not paying his legal fees).
Start by explaining to your son what the consequences are for dating a 14 year old (statutory rape charges, sex offender status, jail time, social isolation, etc). Perhaps see if there is a documentary he can watch on someone who ruined their life that way - it can make it more personal. If that’s not working, perhaps an intervention with the girls’ parents and other adults to explain the weight of the consequences? Or if you know someone who is a lawyer/LEO, have them explain the consequences so it comes from someone “in authority?” If your son still can’t get the message, do you have any financial leverage you can use against him like taking away his car, gaming PC, or any other type of financial support? Finally, I’m sorry you’re in this situation. I can’t imagine watching a loved one wreck their life this way, and I hope your family can find a resolution before things get worse.
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My 19 year old son is dating a 14 year old. What should I do? My son is 19 and he's dating a 14 year old girl. I told him that he's an adult and that he can't date a minor but he told me "I'm not an adult I'm a teenager would you rather me date a 46 year old? If you say yes to that and two teenagers being together then you need to get a grip on reality". Her parents are aware and do not approve especially her father. What should I do? We live in California.
hdjl0kd
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Tell him about the laws relevant to your area and explain what makes you uncomfortable about his relationship. If her parents threaten legal action let him know that you will not help him avoid accountability in any way (ex: you're not paying his legal fees).
What do you mean dating? Dating isn't illegal. Sex however would be a felony and he could spend three years in prison, pay a $10,000 fine, with a felony record for life. And on the sex offender registry.
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My 19 year old son is dating a 14 year old. What should I do? My son is 19 and he's dating a 14 year old girl. I told him that he's an adult and that he can't date a minor but he told me "I'm not an adult I'm a teenager would you rather me date a 46 year old? If you say yes to that and two teenagers being together then you need to get a grip on reality". Her parents are aware and do not approve especially her father. What should I do? We live in California.
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Dating isn't illegal. She cannot consent to sexual contact so he can get in trouble in that regards. He's an adult so ultimately it's his decision to potentially wreck his life. All you can do is warn him.
Tell him about the laws relevant to your area and explain what makes you uncomfortable about his relationship. If her parents threaten legal action let him know that you will not help him avoid accountability in any way (ex: you're not paying his legal fees).
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My 19 year old son is dating a 14 year old. What should I do? My son is 19 and he's dating a 14 year old girl. I told him that he's an adult and that he can't date a minor but he told me "I'm not an adult I'm a teenager would you rather me date a 46 year old? If you say yes to that and two teenagers being together then you need to get a grip on reality". Her parents are aware and do not approve especially her father. What should I do? We live in California.
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Start by explaining to your son what the consequences are for dating a 14 year old (statutory rape charges, sex offender status, jail time, social isolation, etc). Perhaps see if there is a documentary he can watch on someone who ruined their life that way - it can make it more personal. If that’s not working, perhaps an intervention with the girls’ parents and other adults to explain the weight of the consequences? Or if you know someone who is a lawyer/LEO, have them explain the consequences so it comes from someone “in authority?” If your son still can’t get the message, do you have any financial leverage you can use against him like taking away his car, gaming PC, or any other type of financial support? Finally, I’m sorry you’re in this situation. I can’t imagine watching a loved one wreck their life this way, and I hope your family can find a resolution before things get worse.
What do you mean dating? Dating isn't illegal. Sex however would be a felony and he could spend three years in prison, pay a $10,000 fine, with a felony record for life. And on the sex offender registry.
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My 19 year old son is dating a 14 year old. What should I do? My son is 19 and he's dating a 14 year old girl. I told him that he's an adult and that he can't date a minor but he told me "I'm not an adult I'm a teenager would you rather me date a 46 year old? If you say yes to that and two teenagers being together then you need to get a grip on reality". Her parents are aware and do not approve especially her father. What should I do? We live in California.
hdjh1zn
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Start by explaining to your son what the consequences are for dating a 14 year old (statutory rape charges, sex offender status, jail time, social isolation, etc). Perhaps see if there is a documentary he can watch on someone who ruined their life that way - it can make it more personal. If that’s not working, perhaps an intervention with the girls’ parents and other adults to explain the weight of the consequences? Or if you know someone who is a lawyer/LEO, have them explain the consequences so it comes from someone “in authority?” If your son still can’t get the message, do you have any financial leverage you can use against him like taking away his car, gaming PC, or any other type of financial support? Finally, I’m sorry you’re in this situation. I can’t imagine watching a loved one wreck their life this way, and I hope your family can find a resolution before things get worse.
Dating isn't illegal. She cannot consent to sexual contact so he can get in trouble in that regards. He's an adult so ultimately it's his decision to potentially wreck his life. All you can do is warn him.
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I am absolutely certain a dog food killed my healthy 4 year old dog, after posting it on social media and it being shared I have found out that this is not an isolated case Like the title says, my healthy 4 year old yorkie fell violently ill hours after eating a new kind of dog food last Thursday. I am absolutely devastated as i watched my friend of 4 years rapidly degrade and die. Two hours after eating the dog food she started literally squirting blood out of her butt and vomiting. I took her to the vet immediately and after 3 hours and some test done on her she was diagnosed with sudden onset acute pancreatitis. The atmosphere at the vet seemed hopeful and we were certain she would recover and i was sent home with medication and fluids. My poor Khaleesi never recovered and passed away within an hour of getting home. I was devastated, furious and certain the dog food was he culprit as it was the only changing factor. I posted on Facebook my “rant” along with the details of this food. Within the following day my post got shared over 1000 times. Six different people contacted me through private message and shared similar recent experiences with this dog food with at least one other dog dying. I am not looking to profit off of this as nothing can bring back my sweet Khaleesi, but the emergency vet visit put a huge dent in my already tight finances. I buried my dog the day after she died but I still have the dog food, i have been in contact with the dog company and they are investigating. What can I do to recover my vet bill and ensure noone else has to go through the same experience? Location: Texas,USA
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If you still have any of the food, save it.
Class action. Get those folks together and get a lawyer.
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I am absolutely certain a dog food killed my healthy 4 year old dog, after posting it on social media and it being shared I have found out that this is not an isolated case Like the title says, my healthy 4 year old yorkie fell violently ill hours after eating a new kind of dog food last Thursday. I am absolutely devastated as i watched my friend of 4 years rapidly degrade and die. Two hours after eating the dog food she started literally squirting blood out of her butt and vomiting. I took her to the vet immediately and after 3 hours and some test done on her she was diagnosed with sudden onset acute pancreatitis. The atmosphere at the vet seemed hopeful and we were certain she would recover and i was sent home with medication and fluids. My poor Khaleesi never recovered and passed away within an hour of getting home. I was devastated, furious and certain the dog food was he culprit as it was the only changing factor. I posted on Facebook my “rant” along with the details of this food. Within the following day my post got shared over 1000 times. Six different people contacted me through private message and shared similar recent experiences with this dog food with at least one other dog dying. I am not looking to profit off of this as nothing can bring back my sweet Khaleesi, but the emergency vet visit put a huge dent in my already tight finances. I buried my dog the day after she died but I still have the dog food, i have been in contact with the dog company and they are investigating. What can I do to recover my vet bill and ensure noone else has to go through the same experience? Location: Texas,USA
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Class action. Get those folks together and get a lawyer.
Not a lawyer. Acute pancreatitis can be caused by dogs eating many bad things. You may find people with similar symptoms because it's a common response to getting into something bad for dogs, which is many potential things. Don't relent on pursuing your case, but be ready to accept it could be something in your house that the dogs are able to get into. Secure your pantry and other areas with anything they can ingest. My dog just got over a case and we have no idea what caused it.
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I am absolutely certain a dog food killed my healthy 4 year old dog, after posting it on social media and it being shared I have found out that this is not an isolated case Like the title says, my healthy 4 year old yorkie fell violently ill hours after eating a new kind of dog food last Thursday. I am absolutely devastated as i watched my friend of 4 years rapidly degrade and die. Two hours after eating the dog food she started literally squirting blood out of her butt and vomiting. I took her to the vet immediately and after 3 hours and some test done on her she was diagnosed with sudden onset acute pancreatitis. The atmosphere at the vet seemed hopeful and we were certain she would recover and i was sent home with medication and fluids. My poor Khaleesi never recovered and passed away within an hour of getting home. I was devastated, furious and certain the dog food was he culprit as it was the only changing factor. I posted on Facebook my “rant” along with the details of this food. Within the following day my post got shared over 1000 times. Six different people contacted me through private message and shared similar recent experiences with this dog food with at least one other dog dying. I am not looking to profit off of this as nothing can bring back my sweet Khaleesi, but the emergency vet visit put a huge dent in my already tight finances. I buried my dog the day after she died but I still have the dog food, i have been in contact with the dog company and they are investigating. What can I do to recover my vet bill and ensure noone else has to go through the same experience? Location: Texas,USA
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Does the food have an AAFCO label claim on it? What type of food is it (dry kibble, wet, raw, etc)?
If you go to Amazon and look up that dog food, the 1-star comments tell a very similar story. Possibly, contact those customers too, if you can, if you are considering a class action lawsuit.
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I am absolutely certain a dog food killed my healthy 4 year old dog, after posting it on social media and it being shared I have found out that this is not an isolated case Like the title says, my healthy 4 year old yorkie fell violently ill hours after eating a new kind of dog food last Thursday. I am absolutely devastated as i watched my friend of 4 years rapidly degrade and die. Two hours after eating the dog food she started literally squirting blood out of her butt and vomiting. I took her to the vet immediately and after 3 hours and some test done on her she was diagnosed with sudden onset acute pancreatitis. The atmosphere at the vet seemed hopeful and we were certain she would recover and i was sent home with medication and fluids. My poor Khaleesi never recovered and passed away within an hour of getting home. I was devastated, furious and certain the dog food was he culprit as it was the only changing factor. I posted on Facebook my “rant” along with the details of this food. Within the following day my post got shared over 1000 times. Six different people contacted me through private message and shared similar recent experiences with this dog food with at least one other dog dying. I am not looking to profit off of this as nothing can bring back my sweet Khaleesi, but the emergency vet visit put a huge dent in my already tight finances. I buried my dog the day after she died but I still have the dog food, i have been in contact with the dog company and they are investigating. What can I do to recover my vet bill and ensure noone else has to go through the same experience? Location: Texas,USA
dxjon84
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Does the food have an AAFCO label claim on it? What type of food is it (dry kibble, wet, raw, etc)?
Did you have a necropsy performed? Have one, if at all possible. Proving cause of death in terms of legal action is near impossible without one. All sorts of bizarre things can cause death in dogs, including illnesses that might show up suddenly in apparently healthy animals. Without a necropsy, you'd have no way to prove that your dog was actually healthy save for eating this food. Pancreatitis is also not the only sudden GI disease that can cause bloody diarrhea in dogs. Small breed like that, hemorrhagic gastroenteritis comes to mind. Again, a necropsy would be instrumental in proving cause if death and facilitating legal action. EDITING to add: a mild case of pancreatitis that responds to bland diet and fluids at home is also unlikely to kill a dog. A severe case, or something like HGE, requires hospitalization to save a dog. Hence why the necropsy is recommended: without it, it's hard to tell if your dog actually died of pancreatitis or something else.
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