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vb8yy4 | legaladvice_train | 0.73 | Sabotaged, excluded, defamed, and publicly humiliated by boss after reporting him for discrimination and retaliation. HR, ethics/compliance, management have done nothing for months, and retaliation is getting worse. How to force arbitration/settlement without being terminated? I've worked for a big corporate company for many years. About a year ago, I reported my boss to the big boss (boss' boss) for discrimination against a coworker. Big boss was very angry at me and implied that I should mind my own business. Boss started to retaliate against me by sabotaging my work, removing me from projects, making false accusations against me, writing a fake poor performance review, reducing my compensation, etc. Big boss has helped boss exclude and publicly embarrass me. I reported boss and big boss to ethics for retaliation. HR has shown preference for protecting boss and have done nothing about the hostile workplace environment. Ethics has been investigating *for months* and won't respond to my emails. I'm worried that the company is intentionally dragging this out and allowing things to get worse, hoping that I'll just leave on my own. I've contacted several employment lawyers, but none of them will take up my case because I haven't been terminated, and they haven't provided much useful advice. Is there a legal time limit for a company to investigate retaliation? Is there any use in reporting to the EEOC at this time? At this point, my work life is miserable, and I really just want to negotiate/arbitrate a settlement and move on, but I'm not sure how to do so. Generally, how much could you expect in a settlement from cases like this if there hasn't been termination? It feels like the reason why those lawyers are unwilling to take my case is because there's only money if I'm wrongfully terminated. If I left the company instead of being terminated, how would it affect my case if I wanted to sue the company? What phrases/terms should I be looking for when searching for an employment lawyer in my case? **More Background** Two years ago, I received the highest performance rating. Despite boss' retaliation in the last year, I made do with what I could get my hands on and achieved important project milestones. Last year, I received multiple awards from other departments praising my work. After I reported boss to big boss for discrimination last year: * Big boss immediately removed me as project lead for one of my projects without explanation. * Last year, boss removed me without explanation from several other projects. Boss also excluded me from other work responsibilities and some team activities. * Recently, boss accused me of "misconduct" as justification for excluding me. I provided evidence to disprove the accusations. HR initially sided with boss and then said this was a "disagreement" and brushed it off. * Boss wrote a terrible performance review that is full of lies and missing important components. * Significant reduction in compensation. * Boss went behind my project team's back to cancel an order for supplies needed for the project. After I reported boss and big boss to ethics, the retaliation escalated: * Boss and HR wrote me up for misconduct (separate from the "misconduct" mentioned above). * Payroll sent me a letter demanding that I repay an award I received last year. * I've provided a lot of evidence disproving my performance review, the misconduct warning, and boss' other accusations. I've asked HR to investigate each case. HR denied my requests under the guise that they need to wait for ethics to finish their investigation. This is not an exhaustive list at all but hits a few of the biggest things that have happened so far. | ic6usun | ic6t4m5 | 1,655,117,990 | 1,655,116,664 | 18 | 4 | > Is there a legal time limit for a company to investigate retaliation? Barring a contract to the contrary, no. > Is there any use in reporting to the EEOC at this time? Given that no private attorney is willing to take your case, probably not. But, filing a charge of discrimination doesn't cost anything except a bit of time, so you might as well. > Generally, how much could you expect in a settlement from cases like this if there hasn't been termination? Zero. You don't have any damages and seem to misunderstand what comprises a hostile workplace environment. Your best recourse is to parlay your many years of experience into a new, better job elsewhere. | What kind of discrimination was this coworker facing? Is it Jim’s a poopoo head or was it sexual/ racial etc? | 1 | 1,326 | 4.5 |
3uhxoa | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | My dentist told his wife (my boss) that I'm pregnant when I asked him not to. She emailed everyone at work telling them I'm pregnant. Hello /r/legaladvice. I'm not sure what to do here or even if I have any recourse against my dentist but I'm really upset and want to know if there is anything I can do. I found out I'm pregnant. I went in for a dental checkup and my dentist wanted to schedule a procedure for me for something. Now I told him it would have to wait because I am pregnant and I asked him not to tell anyone because I just found out and hadn't told anyone yet. He told his wife (my boss) and she sent an email congratulating me to myself and all of my coworkers. My cousin works for the same company as me so now my family all knows and so does my husband's because it is on Facebook. The thing is that I have had 3 miscarriages before and I'm afraid it will happen again this time. My husband and I never even tell anyone I'm pregnant because we prefer to deal with this privately. I emailed my boss and asked her how she knew and she said her husband told her. I'm really upset about this. My husband called the dental office but the receptionist said dentists are not the same as doctors and they don't have to keep anything private. I would have thought there was still patient/doctor confidentially. Is there anything I can do about this? HR at my work said my boss did nothing wrong but I feel her actions and her husband's we wrong. This all happened in Los Angeles, California. | cxf6zf7 | cxf1qvy | 1,448,667,543 | 1,448,658,088 | 72 | 58 | Your dentist violated HIPAA. Full stop. If you report this to OCR, he will likely face a fine at the very least. Before filing a complaint, I would call your dentists office, and see what he has to say for himself. At that meeting I would also pass on to him what his receptionist said RE: sensitive medical information, because she is horribly, horribly misinformed. Your boss did not violate any laws. However, if you do intend to pursue a HIPPA complaint against the husband, I would recommend filing a complaint against your boss as well, solely for a paper trail if she tries to retaliate against you. This dentist screwed up very, very badly. If he refuses to acknowledge that, a HIPPA complaint will, eventually, inform him of the errors of his ways. | Pursuing legal recourse over this is probably going to be a mess. I would recommend having a sit down with your boss and telling her how upset it has made you. You can't undo what was done, and it was obviously not right of her to do it, but I don't think she had ill intent so taking her and her husband to court is only going to cause more problems in both of your lives. | 1 | 9,455 | 1.241379 |
e836ki | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | (Louisiana) My neighbor is watching us in our yard with a drone. Can I legally spray it with a hose? What can police do? So my neighbors are crazy. They harrass us every chance they get. My mom and I especially. If we leave the house and they see us in our front yard, someone will come stand on the property line and yell at us. This happens a lot and according to the police, as long as they aren't in our yard and they aren't threatening us, they're legally protected. Fine. Well now they have a drone. And for the last 4 hours while we were doing yard work, the drone hovered above my mom. It followed her all over the yard until she went inside out of frustration. I have footage of the drown following her in the air, but no footage of whoever is operating it. Question is, can I call the police over this? We own 500 feet of air space over our house and this thing was barely higher than the house, so it was trespassing, but I have no proof it was them, besides seeing it take off from their backyard and hearing them talking about it. Would I be within my legal rights if I took a pressure washer nozzle, attached it to the hose, and sprayed the drone? What can the police do about it without proof that it was one of them operating it? | fa9eb0w | fa9fdei | 1,575,870,481 | 1,575,871,573 | 23 | 122 | You can't really bring down the drone with a hose, as it would be vandalism. However, drones are heavily regulated, so there is something you can do to take care of the drone problem legally. Depending on the circumstances whoever is flying the drone can get in some EXTREMELY serious trouble with the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration), especially considering some of the stuff you are explaining about the use of this drone as it stands. If you don't have proof that the neighbours are using the drone, then there isn't much you can do about your neighbours, though it wouldn't be a bad idea to contact the police or the FAA to look into the drone issue. Take footage of the drone flying over your yard, as it can be used as evidence against whoever is flying the drone. | We purchased a drone a few years ago and used it for fun a few times, but were eventually planning on using it for business purposes. Drone laws are incredibly strict. Even just for fun we were required to call our small local airport every time we used it and get clearance. Ended up selling it, it was too much of a hassle and we are pretty law abiding. Report it to the FAA. And if they are using it for any business purposes without every dotted i and crossed t it won’t be a good outcome. Also if the drone is camera equipped you can press charges for invasion of privacy, just like you would a peeping Tom. | 0 | 1,092 | 5.304348 |
e836ki | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | (Louisiana) My neighbor is watching us in our yard with a drone. Can I legally spray it with a hose? What can police do? So my neighbors are crazy. They harrass us every chance they get. My mom and I especially. If we leave the house and they see us in our front yard, someone will come stand on the property line and yell at us. This happens a lot and according to the police, as long as they aren't in our yard and they aren't threatening us, they're legally protected. Fine. Well now they have a drone. And for the last 4 hours while we were doing yard work, the drone hovered above my mom. It followed her all over the yard until she went inside out of frustration. I have footage of the drown following her in the air, but no footage of whoever is operating it. Question is, can I call the police over this? We own 500 feet of air space over our house and this thing was barely higher than the house, so it was trespassing, but I have no proof it was them, besides seeing it take off from their backyard and hearing them talking about it. Would I be within my legal rights if I took a pressure washer nozzle, attached it to the hose, and sprayed the drone? What can the police do about it without proof that it was one of them operating it? | fa9mh7b | fa9eb0w | 1,575,880,296 | 1,575,870,481 | 67 | 23 | I am a drone enthusiast myself, he can fly above your property and you don’t own the airspace like lots of folks seem to think. He is likely in violation of several other drone laws though, biggest one is if he is directly overhead anyone without their permission. Potential huge fines. Another would be line of sight, when flying legally you have to be able to see the drone with your eyes. If he is going below the fenceline or anywhere you could prove he cannot see he is in violation of the law. Download the app called B4UFLY, its made by the FAA, it shows where you can and cannot fly, its possible you live in restricted airspace. Could also be local laws in place regarding filming and peeping tom type stuff. Legally you cant bring the drone down unless you have reason to believe it will hurt you or your property. If one was directly above me or my family, I would try to destroy it, it is illegal to fly over folks for a good reason, look up drone accidents, they aren’t just a toy, kinda more like flying cameras with 4 meat grinders on them. Edit: some spelling | You can't really bring down the drone with a hose, as it would be vandalism. However, drones are heavily regulated, so there is something you can do to take care of the drone problem legally. Depending on the circumstances whoever is flying the drone can get in some EXTREMELY serious trouble with the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration), especially considering some of the stuff you are explaining about the use of this drone as it stands. If you don't have proof that the neighbours are using the drone, then there isn't much you can do about your neighbours, though it wouldn't be a bad idea to contact the police or the FAA to look into the drone issue. Take footage of the drone flying over your yard, as it can be used as evidence against whoever is flying the drone. | 1 | 9,815 | 2.913043 |
4dnwaq | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | (San Diego) Can I be sued for knocking down a drone flying in my yard and then erasing its memory card? This occurred in San Diego. Someone has been flying a drone around the neighborhood for the last few weeks. No one knew who it was, but it has been taking video of people as it has a camera mounted below it. It has caught my daughter and her friends in the pool in our backyard multiple times. Yesterday, I saw it and grabbed our powerwasher and my son and I managed to knock it to the ground using it and the garden hose and our lawn furniture cushions. It got a bit damaged so I took it inside to see if I could find the owner. I saw the multiple videos on the memory card including multiple ones of my daughter and her friends in their swim suits and ones of other neighbors as well and erased it. My son is very good with computers and he did a permanent wipe of the data. About that time, one of my across-the-street neighbors came over and demanded his drone back. I refused at first until he could prove it was his. He threatened to call the police and I agreed and did it right then and there. Eventually a cop came and after talking to both of us, told me to give the drone back, which I did. He got angry that it was damaged, but the cop said it was a civil matter and that he could sue. About an hour later he came back threatening to sue me because the memory card was erased and that I destroyed the "propeller foil" or soemething when I "illegally" brought down his drone, and that I am liable for damages for erasing his memory card. He said he couldn't recover anything and that he was going to sue me for "thousands." I laughed openly at him and told him to get off my property or I would call the police again. He left yelling. But, am I really in danger of being sued and losing for knocking the drone down when it was flying about just over our backyard and erasing the videos he had taken from inside our's and others' backyards? That seems way more illegal to videotape us from within our own yard without our permission. Sorry if this is too long, but I'm not sure what to include. | d1tuv6u | d1tluoo | 1,460,053,216 | 1,460,041,985 | 137 | 109 | You basically destroyed evidence that he was spying on you. A better option would have been to make a copy of the card's contents and leave the data intact. You could then take that to a lawyer to see if he was in violation of any voyeurism laws and determine the best course of action. However now it's simply your word against his, and it's already established that you destroyed and vandalized his property. Knocking the drone out of the air if it was directly above your yard *may* have been kosher depending on how low it was, but everything after that was not. You're kind of SOL man. | So I'm not an attorney, but if (as you say in the comments) the drone was flying *below fence height* in your privacy-fenced backyard, that sounds *very* different than if it were a couple hundred feet above your house. Trespassing and expectation of privacy laws may in fact be more relevant here than other comments are saying. Can you estimate how high exactly the drone was flying? The show is fictional, but a recent episode of CBS's "Good Wife" had a similar plot line, and they made reference to some actual case law. In their story one of the central issues was the *height* the drone was flying. *Over* a certain height (500 feet) was the jurisdiction of the FAA and *under* a certain height (83 feet, due to US v. Causby) the drone would have been considered trespassing, but in between 83 feet and 500 feet the law was unclear. Damage to the drone and deletion of the card data might still be a problem, of course. | 1 | 11,231 | 1.256881 |
4dnwaq | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | (San Diego) Can I be sued for knocking down a drone flying in my yard and then erasing its memory card? This occurred in San Diego. Someone has been flying a drone around the neighborhood for the last few weeks. No one knew who it was, but it has been taking video of people as it has a camera mounted below it. It has caught my daughter and her friends in the pool in our backyard multiple times. Yesterday, I saw it and grabbed our powerwasher and my son and I managed to knock it to the ground using it and the garden hose and our lawn furniture cushions. It got a bit damaged so I took it inside to see if I could find the owner. I saw the multiple videos on the memory card including multiple ones of my daughter and her friends in their swim suits and ones of other neighbors as well and erased it. My son is very good with computers and he did a permanent wipe of the data. About that time, one of my across-the-street neighbors came over and demanded his drone back. I refused at first until he could prove it was his. He threatened to call the police and I agreed and did it right then and there. Eventually a cop came and after talking to both of us, told me to give the drone back, which I did. He got angry that it was damaged, but the cop said it was a civil matter and that he could sue. About an hour later he came back threatening to sue me because the memory card was erased and that I destroyed the "propeller foil" or soemething when I "illegally" brought down his drone, and that I am liable for damages for erasing his memory card. He said he couldn't recover anything and that he was going to sue me for "thousands." I laughed openly at him and told him to get off my property or I would call the police again. He left yelling. But, am I really in danger of being sued and losing for knocking the drone down when it was flying about just over our backyard and erasing the videos he had taken from inside our's and others' backyards? That seems way more illegal to videotape us from within our own yard without our permission. Sorry if this is too long, but I'm not sure what to include. | d1sp2yh | d1tuv6u | 1,459,978,396 | 1,460,053,216 | 52 | 137 | You can be sued, and sued successfully. As of right now, there is little to no prohibition against flying a drone over your property. There is also little prohibition against filming things that occur in the outdoors, where one generally has no reasonable expectation of privacy. It is very likely **not** illegal to film your daughter in the backyard swimming pool. So, in short - he wasn't in the wrong, you were, by damaging both the drone and the card. | You basically destroyed evidence that he was spying on you. A better option would have been to make a copy of the card's contents and leave the data intact. You could then take that to a lawyer to see if he was in violation of any voyeurism laws and determine the best course of action. However now it's simply your word against his, and it's already established that you destroyed and vandalized his property. Knocking the drone out of the air if it was directly above your yard *may* have been kosher depending on how low it was, but everything after that was not. You're kind of SOL man. | 0 | 74,820 | 2.634615 |
4dnwaq | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | (San Diego) Can I be sued for knocking down a drone flying in my yard and then erasing its memory card? This occurred in San Diego. Someone has been flying a drone around the neighborhood for the last few weeks. No one knew who it was, but it has been taking video of people as it has a camera mounted below it. It has caught my daughter and her friends in the pool in our backyard multiple times. Yesterday, I saw it and grabbed our powerwasher and my son and I managed to knock it to the ground using it and the garden hose and our lawn furniture cushions. It got a bit damaged so I took it inside to see if I could find the owner. I saw the multiple videos on the memory card including multiple ones of my daughter and her friends in their swim suits and ones of other neighbors as well and erased it. My son is very good with computers and he did a permanent wipe of the data. About that time, one of my across-the-street neighbors came over and demanded his drone back. I refused at first until he could prove it was his. He threatened to call the police and I agreed and did it right then and there. Eventually a cop came and after talking to both of us, told me to give the drone back, which I did. He got angry that it was damaged, but the cop said it was a civil matter and that he could sue. About an hour later he came back threatening to sue me because the memory card was erased and that I destroyed the "propeller foil" or soemething when I "illegally" brought down his drone, and that I am liable for damages for erasing his memory card. He said he couldn't recover anything and that he was going to sue me for "thousands." I laughed openly at him and told him to get off my property or I would call the police again. He left yelling. But, am I really in danger of being sued and losing for knocking the drone down when it was flying about just over our backyard and erasing the videos he had taken from inside our's and others' backyards? That seems way more illegal to videotape us from within our own yard without our permission. Sorry if this is too long, but I'm not sure what to include. | d1tluoo | d1sp2yh | 1,460,041,985 | 1,459,978,396 | 109 | 52 | So I'm not an attorney, but if (as you say in the comments) the drone was flying *below fence height* in your privacy-fenced backyard, that sounds *very* different than if it were a couple hundred feet above your house. Trespassing and expectation of privacy laws may in fact be more relevant here than other comments are saying. Can you estimate how high exactly the drone was flying? The show is fictional, but a recent episode of CBS's "Good Wife" had a similar plot line, and they made reference to some actual case law. In their story one of the central issues was the *height* the drone was flying. *Over* a certain height (500 feet) was the jurisdiction of the FAA and *under* a certain height (83 feet, due to US v. Causby) the drone would have been considered trespassing, but in between 83 feet and 500 feet the law was unclear. Damage to the drone and deletion of the card data might still be a problem, of course. | You can be sued, and sued successfully. As of right now, there is little to no prohibition against flying a drone over your property. There is also little prohibition against filming things that occur in the outdoors, where one generally has no reasonable expectation of privacy. It is very likely **not** illegal to film your daughter in the backyard swimming pool. So, in short - he wasn't in the wrong, you were, by damaging both the drone and the card. | 1 | 63,589 | 2.096154 |
4dnwaq | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | (San Diego) Can I be sued for knocking down a drone flying in my yard and then erasing its memory card? This occurred in San Diego. Someone has been flying a drone around the neighborhood for the last few weeks. No one knew who it was, but it has been taking video of people as it has a camera mounted below it. It has caught my daughter and her friends in the pool in our backyard multiple times. Yesterday, I saw it and grabbed our powerwasher and my son and I managed to knock it to the ground using it and the garden hose and our lawn furniture cushions. It got a bit damaged so I took it inside to see if I could find the owner. I saw the multiple videos on the memory card including multiple ones of my daughter and her friends in their swim suits and ones of other neighbors as well and erased it. My son is very good with computers and he did a permanent wipe of the data. About that time, one of my across-the-street neighbors came over and demanded his drone back. I refused at first until he could prove it was his. He threatened to call the police and I agreed and did it right then and there. Eventually a cop came and after talking to both of us, told me to give the drone back, which I did. He got angry that it was damaged, but the cop said it was a civil matter and that he could sue. About an hour later he came back threatening to sue me because the memory card was erased and that I destroyed the "propeller foil" or soemething when I "illegally" brought down his drone, and that I am liable for damages for erasing his memory card. He said he couldn't recover anything and that he was going to sue me for "thousands." I laughed openly at him and told him to get off my property or I would call the police again. He left yelling. But, am I really in danger of being sued and losing for knocking the drone down when it was flying about just over our backyard and erasing the videos he had taken from inside our's and others' backyards? That seems way more illegal to videotape us from within our own yard without our permission. Sorry if this is too long, but I'm not sure what to include. | d1u7v4g | d1sp2yh | 1,460,070,433 | 1,459,978,396 | 57 | 52 | This thread is full of horrible advice. There are peeping Tom laws. Also, being 20ft above the property can definitely be considered OP's property. Houses are higher than that in many cases. There are also laws against stalking/illegal surveillance. OP needs to consult with a lawyer who is familiar with local, state, and federal ordinance regarding this matter, and not take advice from reddit. Also, do not admit to destroying anything. Tell them it crash landed, you don't know how. Also be careful putting random memory cards in your personal computer. If you want to really get him, run a strong magnet on it. Unless you admit to something, which hopefully you didn't already, it's his word against yours. When dealing with a situation such as this, it's best to just keep your mouth shut and contact a lawyer. | You can be sued, and sued successfully. As of right now, there is little to no prohibition against flying a drone over your property. There is also little prohibition against filming things that occur in the outdoors, where one generally has no reasonable expectation of privacy. It is very likely **not** illegal to film your daughter in the backyard swimming pool. So, in short - he wasn't in the wrong, you were, by damaging both the drone and the card. | 1 | 92,037 | 1.096154 |
zm7u0l | legaladvice_train | 0.85 | Is my landlord allowed to do this? In Colorado, USA. For the past month and a half or so, there have been multiple vats of unsealed flammable chemicals in the corridor of my apartment building's floor. They are not blocking any exit ways, but they are unsealed, have strong fumes, and seem like a major fire hazard. The chemicals are for weatherproofing balconies, and they are not actively working on it most days – it seems to be once a week (if that), but I don't know if they work on other floors and just store the chemicals on our floor the whole time. Today, our fire alarm/carbon monoxide alarm in the living room kept chirping, so my roommate and I made a maintenance request and called the front desk about it. We came back and it was not fixed, and after a lot of back and forth, we were told to remove/unplug our fire alarms/carbon monoxide alarms. Is it legal for my landlord to have all these chemicals unsealed and unattended in a common area? Should I call the (non-emergency line for) the fire department and ask? I have emailed the building manager about this weeks ago and no change has been made, and they didn't even respond to/acknowledge the email in the first place. | j09id4b | j09qpi7 | 1,671,066,234 | 1,671,069,983 | 11 | 18 | Yes, contact code enforcement or the fire marshal. | >we were told to remove/unplug our fire alarms/carbon monoxide alarms Don't do that. Those are literally there to prevent you from dying. Whoever told you to do that is going to get you killed. | 0 | 3,749 | 1.636364 |
wg4a6x | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | IS MY LANDLORD ALLOWED TO DO THIS TO ME?!?!?!?!?? Hello,, I recently moved into a new apartment and i’ve already had two incidents where my landlord is doing things that have made me think twice. A few days ago I was helping my friend move his things out of my apartment and our door was open because of this. then my land lord pulled up to the property and simply let himself in with no permission nor reason because we did not need him… but we let it slide cause the door was open and sure it was weird but ehh. Today however, is a different story. early in the morning he unlocked our door with a master key and let himself in because he “had to drop off a mailbox key”. something about the situation made me feel uneasy because i was a few ft away asleep while a man was inside my home… a mailbox key does not seem like a valid reason to just come into my home unannounced. I would like to clarify that in our lease he said “Locks are on a master key system. Your locks will be changed prior to moving in upon request. landlord has a master key and must have access to space in case of emergency. I will never enter your space without you being present unless it is an emergency like water coming out your front door.” however, dropping off a mailbox key because the locksmith forgot to does not seem like an emergency. I am scared and i don’t know if it’s confirmation bias but I just have a bad feeling about him and want to know my options or what i should do to keep myself and roommates protected. any ideas would be greatly appreciated!! | iixtaku | iixqkrr | 1,659,632,752 | 1,659,631,737 | 828 | 340 | Your friendly tenant attorney checking in here! I am not licensed to practice in Florida (but am in the other sunshine state), am not your attorney, and none of this should be construed as legal advice. Looks like Florida has a very similar statute to California when it comes to landlord entries. He cannot be entering the property without your knowledge or consent, unless he believes you have abandoned the property or there is an emergency. I recommend contacting a *local* tenant attorney, who would be more than happy to draft a letter asking he cease and desist any further entries. Also, at least in my state, you can obtain a restraining order against your landlord for intrusions such as this. | It doesn’t help while you are away, but while you are home I would recommend investing in a no-install security bar or portable door lock. As others have said this is illegal, unacceptable behavior. | 1 | 1,015 | 2.435294 |
wg4a6x | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | IS MY LANDLORD ALLOWED TO DO THIS TO ME?!?!?!?!?? Hello,, I recently moved into a new apartment and i’ve already had two incidents where my landlord is doing things that have made me think twice. A few days ago I was helping my friend move his things out of my apartment and our door was open because of this. then my land lord pulled up to the property and simply let himself in with no permission nor reason because we did not need him… but we let it slide cause the door was open and sure it was weird but ehh. Today however, is a different story. early in the morning he unlocked our door with a master key and let himself in because he “had to drop off a mailbox key”. something about the situation made me feel uneasy because i was a few ft away asleep while a man was inside my home… a mailbox key does not seem like a valid reason to just come into my home unannounced. I would like to clarify that in our lease he said “Locks are on a master key system. Your locks will be changed prior to moving in upon request. landlord has a master key and must have access to space in case of emergency. I will never enter your space without you being present unless it is an emergency like water coming out your front door.” however, dropping off a mailbox key because the locksmith forgot to does not seem like an emergency. I am scared and i don’t know if it’s confirmation bias but I just have a bad feeling about him and want to know my options or what i should do to keep myself and roommates protected. any ideas would be greatly appreciated!! | iixghrf | iixtaku | 1,659,627,912 | 1,659,632,752 | 41 | 828 | What state? | Your friendly tenant attorney checking in here! I am not licensed to practice in Florida (but am in the other sunshine state), am not your attorney, and none of this should be construed as legal advice. Looks like Florida has a very similar statute to California when it comes to landlord entries. He cannot be entering the property without your knowledge or consent, unless he believes you have abandoned the property or there is an emergency. I recommend contacting a *local* tenant attorney, who would be more than happy to draft a letter asking he cease and desist any further entries. Also, at least in my state, you can obtain a restraining order against your landlord for intrusions such as this. | 0 | 4,840 | 20.195122 |
wg4a6x | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | IS MY LANDLORD ALLOWED TO DO THIS TO ME?!?!?!?!?? Hello,, I recently moved into a new apartment and i’ve already had two incidents where my landlord is doing things that have made me think twice. A few days ago I was helping my friend move his things out of my apartment and our door was open because of this. then my land lord pulled up to the property and simply let himself in with no permission nor reason because we did not need him… but we let it slide cause the door was open and sure it was weird but ehh. Today however, is a different story. early in the morning he unlocked our door with a master key and let himself in because he “had to drop off a mailbox key”. something about the situation made me feel uneasy because i was a few ft away asleep while a man was inside my home… a mailbox key does not seem like a valid reason to just come into my home unannounced. I would like to clarify that in our lease he said “Locks are on a master key system. Your locks will be changed prior to moving in upon request. landlord has a master key and must have access to space in case of emergency. I will never enter your space without you being present unless it is an emergency like water coming out your front door.” however, dropping off a mailbox key because the locksmith forgot to does not seem like an emergency. I am scared and i don’t know if it’s confirmation bias but I just have a bad feeling about him and want to know my options or what i should do to keep myself and roommates protected. any ideas would be greatly appreciated!! | iixf0ru | iixtaku | 1,659,627,350 | 1,659,632,752 | 3 | 828 | Hi there! I’m the LegalFAQ bot. It looks like you may be experiencing housing issues related to housing or eviction. Come to https://legalfaq.org to find legal resources for renters in each state. You can also find links to local groups that can help you with legal, financial, or other problems at https://legalfaq.org/getHelp. Help us provide accurate advice to fellow redditors: if your post was related to housing or eviction, please like this comment; otherwise, please dislike this comment. *v0.1* | Your friendly tenant attorney checking in here! I am not licensed to practice in Florida (but am in the other sunshine state), am not your attorney, and none of this should be construed as legal advice. Looks like Florida has a very similar statute to California when it comes to landlord entries. He cannot be entering the property without your knowledge or consent, unless he believes you have abandoned the property or there is an emergency. I recommend contacting a *local* tenant attorney, who would be more than happy to draft a letter asking he cease and desist any further entries. Also, at least in my state, you can obtain a restraining order against your landlord for intrusions such as this. | 0 | 5,402 | 276 |
wg4a6x | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | IS MY LANDLORD ALLOWED TO DO THIS TO ME?!?!?!?!?? Hello,, I recently moved into a new apartment and i’ve already had two incidents where my landlord is doing things that have made me think twice. A few days ago I was helping my friend move his things out of my apartment and our door was open because of this. then my land lord pulled up to the property and simply let himself in with no permission nor reason because we did not need him… but we let it slide cause the door was open and sure it was weird but ehh. Today however, is a different story. early in the morning he unlocked our door with a master key and let himself in because he “had to drop off a mailbox key”. something about the situation made me feel uneasy because i was a few ft away asleep while a man was inside my home… a mailbox key does not seem like a valid reason to just come into my home unannounced. I would like to clarify that in our lease he said “Locks are on a master key system. Your locks will be changed prior to moving in upon request. landlord has a master key and must have access to space in case of emergency. I will never enter your space without you being present unless it is an emergency like water coming out your front door.” however, dropping off a mailbox key because the locksmith forgot to does not seem like an emergency. I am scared and i don’t know if it’s confirmation bias but I just have a bad feeling about him and want to know my options or what i should do to keep myself and roommates protected. any ideas would be greatly appreciated!! | iixqkrr | iixghrf | 1,659,631,737 | 1,659,627,912 | 340 | 41 | It doesn’t help while you are away, but while you are home I would recommend investing in a no-install security bar or portable door lock. As others have said this is illegal, unacceptable behavior. | What state? | 1 | 3,825 | 8.292683 |
wg4a6x | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | IS MY LANDLORD ALLOWED TO DO THIS TO ME?!?!?!?!?? Hello,, I recently moved into a new apartment and i’ve already had two incidents where my landlord is doing things that have made me think twice. A few days ago I was helping my friend move his things out of my apartment and our door was open because of this. then my land lord pulled up to the property and simply let himself in with no permission nor reason because we did not need him… but we let it slide cause the door was open and sure it was weird but ehh. Today however, is a different story. early in the morning he unlocked our door with a master key and let himself in because he “had to drop off a mailbox key”. something about the situation made me feel uneasy because i was a few ft away asleep while a man was inside my home… a mailbox key does not seem like a valid reason to just come into my home unannounced. I would like to clarify that in our lease he said “Locks are on a master key system. Your locks will be changed prior to moving in upon request. landlord has a master key and must have access to space in case of emergency. I will never enter your space without you being present unless it is an emergency like water coming out your front door.” however, dropping off a mailbox key because the locksmith forgot to does not seem like an emergency. I am scared and i don’t know if it’s confirmation bias but I just have a bad feeling about him and want to know my options or what i should do to keep myself and roommates protected. any ideas would be greatly appreciated!! | iixf0ru | iixqkrr | 1,659,627,350 | 1,659,631,737 | 3 | 340 | Hi there! I’m the LegalFAQ bot. It looks like you may be experiencing housing issues related to housing or eviction. Come to https://legalfaq.org to find legal resources for renters in each state. You can also find links to local groups that can help you with legal, financial, or other problems at https://legalfaq.org/getHelp. Help us provide accurate advice to fellow redditors: if your post was related to housing or eviction, please like this comment; otherwise, please dislike this comment. *v0.1* | It doesn’t help while you are away, but while you are home I would recommend investing in a no-install security bar or portable door lock. As others have said this is illegal, unacceptable behavior. | 0 | 4,387 | 113.333333 |
wg4a6x | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | IS MY LANDLORD ALLOWED TO DO THIS TO ME?!?!?!?!?? Hello,, I recently moved into a new apartment and i’ve already had two incidents where my landlord is doing things that have made me think twice. A few days ago I was helping my friend move his things out of my apartment and our door was open because of this. then my land lord pulled up to the property and simply let himself in with no permission nor reason because we did not need him… but we let it slide cause the door was open and sure it was weird but ehh. Today however, is a different story. early in the morning he unlocked our door with a master key and let himself in because he “had to drop off a mailbox key”. something about the situation made me feel uneasy because i was a few ft away asleep while a man was inside my home… a mailbox key does not seem like a valid reason to just come into my home unannounced. I would like to clarify that in our lease he said “Locks are on a master key system. Your locks will be changed prior to moving in upon request. landlord has a master key and must have access to space in case of emergency. I will never enter your space without you being present unless it is an emergency like water coming out your front door.” however, dropping off a mailbox key because the locksmith forgot to does not seem like an emergency. I am scared and i don’t know if it’s confirmation bias but I just have a bad feeling about him and want to know my options or what i should do to keep myself and roommates protected. any ideas would be greatly appreciated!! | iixu24t | iixghrf | 1,659,633,043 | 1,659,627,912 | 192 | 41 | There are legal options, as others have noted, but it's usually not great to start with legal remedies unless you plan to move out relatively soon. Getting the police involved, or a lawyer, is a good way to have a bad relationship with your landlord for the entirety of the lease. It sounds like you should start by just setting clear boundaries. Something like "Unless there is a clear emergency, please don't come into my apartment without first calling/texting at least 24 hours in advance, and knocking before you enter to see if I'm home." If he continues to violate your boundaries, then you move to citing the lease and police/legal action. | What state? | 1 | 5,131 | 4.682927 |
wg4a6x | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | IS MY LANDLORD ALLOWED TO DO THIS TO ME?!?!?!?!?? Hello,, I recently moved into a new apartment and i’ve already had two incidents where my landlord is doing things that have made me think twice. A few days ago I was helping my friend move his things out of my apartment and our door was open because of this. then my land lord pulled up to the property and simply let himself in with no permission nor reason because we did not need him… but we let it slide cause the door was open and sure it was weird but ehh. Today however, is a different story. early in the morning he unlocked our door with a master key and let himself in because he “had to drop off a mailbox key”. something about the situation made me feel uneasy because i was a few ft away asleep while a man was inside my home… a mailbox key does not seem like a valid reason to just come into my home unannounced. I would like to clarify that in our lease he said “Locks are on a master key system. Your locks will be changed prior to moving in upon request. landlord has a master key and must have access to space in case of emergency. I will never enter your space without you being present unless it is an emergency like water coming out your front door.” however, dropping off a mailbox key because the locksmith forgot to does not seem like an emergency. I am scared and i don’t know if it’s confirmation bias but I just have a bad feeling about him and want to know my options or what i should do to keep myself and roommates protected. any ideas would be greatly appreciated!! | iixtq0b | iixu24t | 1,659,632,916 | 1,659,633,043 | 33 | 192 | Check your lease and verify what is says regarding entry by your landlord. Usually they say they need to notify 24 hours in advance. | There are legal options, as others have noted, but it's usually not great to start with legal remedies unless you plan to move out relatively soon. Getting the police involved, or a lawyer, is a good way to have a bad relationship with your landlord for the entirety of the lease. It sounds like you should start by just setting clear boundaries. Something like "Unless there is a clear emergency, please don't come into my apartment without first calling/texting at least 24 hours in advance, and knocking before you enter to see if I'm home." If he continues to violate your boundaries, then you move to citing the lease and police/legal action. | 0 | 127 | 5.818182 |
wg4a6x | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | IS MY LANDLORD ALLOWED TO DO THIS TO ME?!?!?!?!?? Hello,, I recently moved into a new apartment and i’ve already had two incidents where my landlord is doing things that have made me think twice. A few days ago I was helping my friend move his things out of my apartment and our door was open because of this. then my land lord pulled up to the property and simply let himself in with no permission nor reason because we did not need him… but we let it slide cause the door was open and sure it was weird but ehh. Today however, is a different story. early in the morning he unlocked our door with a master key and let himself in because he “had to drop off a mailbox key”. something about the situation made me feel uneasy because i was a few ft away asleep while a man was inside my home… a mailbox key does not seem like a valid reason to just come into my home unannounced. I would like to clarify that in our lease he said “Locks are on a master key system. Your locks will be changed prior to moving in upon request. landlord has a master key and must have access to space in case of emergency. I will never enter your space without you being present unless it is an emergency like water coming out your front door.” however, dropping off a mailbox key because the locksmith forgot to does not seem like an emergency. I am scared and i don’t know if it’s confirmation bias but I just have a bad feeling about him and want to know my options or what i should do to keep myself and roommates protected. any ideas would be greatly appreciated!! | iixf0ru | iixu24t | 1,659,627,350 | 1,659,633,043 | 3 | 192 | Hi there! I’m the LegalFAQ bot. It looks like you may be experiencing housing issues related to housing or eviction. Come to https://legalfaq.org to find legal resources for renters in each state. You can also find links to local groups that can help you with legal, financial, or other problems at https://legalfaq.org/getHelp. Help us provide accurate advice to fellow redditors: if your post was related to housing or eviction, please like this comment; otherwise, please dislike this comment. *v0.1* | There are legal options, as others have noted, but it's usually not great to start with legal remedies unless you plan to move out relatively soon. Getting the police involved, or a lawyer, is a good way to have a bad relationship with your landlord for the entirety of the lease. It sounds like you should start by just setting clear boundaries. Something like "Unless there is a clear emergency, please don't come into my apartment without first calling/texting at least 24 hours in advance, and knocking before you enter to see if I'm home." If he continues to violate your boundaries, then you move to citing the lease and police/legal action. | 0 | 5,693 | 64 |
wg4a6x | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | IS MY LANDLORD ALLOWED TO DO THIS TO ME?!?!?!?!?? Hello,, I recently moved into a new apartment and i’ve already had two incidents where my landlord is doing things that have made me think twice. A few days ago I was helping my friend move his things out of my apartment and our door was open because of this. then my land lord pulled up to the property and simply let himself in with no permission nor reason because we did not need him… but we let it slide cause the door was open and sure it was weird but ehh. Today however, is a different story. early in the morning he unlocked our door with a master key and let himself in because he “had to drop off a mailbox key”. something about the situation made me feel uneasy because i was a few ft away asleep while a man was inside my home… a mailbox key does not seem like a valid reason to just come into my home unannounced. I would like to clarify that in our lease he said “Locks are on a master key system. Your locks will be changed prior to moving in upon request. landlord has a master key and must have access to space in case of emergency. I will never enter your space without you being present unless it is an emergency like water coming out your front door.” however, dropping off a mailbox key because the locksmith forgot to does not seem like an emergency. I am scared and i don’t know if it’s confirmation bias but I just have a bad feeling about him and want to know my options or what i should do to keep myself and roommates protected. any ideas would be greatly appreciated!! | iixghrf | iiy1gto | 1,659,627,912 | 1,659,635,808 | 41 | 184 | What state? | Landlord here. This is very concerning. Tell your landlord that by law they need to provide the proper notice to access the apartment. Also, you should consider tucking in a door stop under the door to make it harder to open should the landlord try to enter when you’re home. | 0 | 7,896 | 4.487805 |
wg4a6x | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | IS MY LANDLORD ALLOWED TO DO THIS TO ME?!?!?!?!?? Hello,, I recently moved into a new apartment and i’ve already had two incidents where my landlord is doing things that have made me think twice. A few days ago I was helping my friend move his things out of my apartment and our door was open because of this. then my land lord pulled up to the property and simply let himself in with no permission nor reason because we did not need him… but we let it slide cause the door was open and sure it was weird but ehh. Today however, is a different story. early in the morning he unlocked our door with a master key and let himself in because he “had to drop off a mailbox key”. something about the situation made me feel uneasy because i was a few ft away asleep while a man was inside my home… a mailbox key does not seem like a valid reason to just come into my home unannounced. I would like to clarify that in our lease he said “Locks are on a master key system. Your locks will be changed prior to moving in upon request. landlord has a master key and must have access to space in case of emergency. I will never enter your space without you being present unless it is an emergency like water coming out your front door.” however, dropping off a mailbox key because the locksmith forgot to does not seem like an emergency. I am scared and i don’t know if it’s confirmation bias but I just have a bad feeling about him and want to know my options or what i should do to keep myself and roommates protected. any ideas would be greatly appreciated!! | iiy1gto | iixtq0b | 1,659,635,808 | 1,659,632,916 | 184 | 33 | Landlord here. This is very concerning. Tell your landlord that by law they need to provide the proper notice to access the apartment. Also, you should consider tucking in a door stop under the door to make it harder to open should the landlord try to enter when you’re home. | Check your lease and verify what is says regarding entry by your landlord. Usually they say they need to notify 24 hours in advance. | 1 | 2,892 | 5.575758 |
wg4a6x | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | IS MY LANDLORD ALLOWED TO DO THIS TO ME?!?!?!?!?? Hello,, I recently moved into a new apartment and i’ve already had two incidents where my landlord is doing things that have made me think twice. A few days ago I was helping my friend move his things out of my apartment and our door was open because of this. then my land lord pulled up to the property and simply let himself in with no permission nor reason because we did not need him… but we let it slide cause the door was open and sure it was weird but ehh. Today however, is a different story. early in the morning he unlocked our door with a master key and let himself in because he “had to drop off a mailbox key”. something about the situation made me feel uneasy because i was a few ft away asleep while a man was inside my home… a mailbox key does not seem like a valid reason to just come into my home unannounced. I would like to clarify that in our lease he said “Locks are on a master key system. Your locks will be changed prior to moving in upon request. landlord has a master key and must have access to space in case of emergency. I will never enter your space without you being present unless it is an emergency like water coming out your front door.” however, dropping off a mailbox key because the locksmith forgot to does not seem like an emergency. I am scared and i don’t know if it’s confirmation bias but I just have a bad feeling about him and want to know my options or what i should do to keep myself and roommates protected. any ideas would be greatly appreciated!! | iixw5cm | iiy1gto | 1,659,633,828 | 1,659,635,808 | 23 | 184 | Here is the law.... 83.53 Landlord’s access to dwelling unit.— (1) The tenant shall not unreasonably withhold consent to the landlord to enter the dwelling unit from time to time in order to inspect the premises; make necessary or agreed repairs, decorations, alterations, or improvements; supply agreed services; or exhibit the dwelling unit to prospective or actual purchasers, mortgagees, tenants, workers, or contractors. (2) The landlord may enter the dwelling unit at any time for the protection or preservation of the premises. The landlord may enter the dwelling unit upon reasonable notice to the tenant and at a reasonable time for the purpose of repair of the premises. “Reasonable notice” for the purpose of repair is notice given at least 24 hours prior to the entry, and reasonable time for the purpose of repair shall be between the hours of 7:30 a.m. and 8:00 p.m. The landlord may enter the dwelling unit when necessary for the further purposes set forth in subsection (1) under any of the following circumstances: (a) With the consent of the tenant; (b) In case of emergency; (c) When the tenant unreasonably withholds consent; or (d) If the tenant is absent from the premises for a period of time equal to one-half the time for periodic rental payments. If the rent is current and the tenant notifies the landlord of an intended absence, then the landlord may enter only with the consent of the tenant or for the protection or preservation of the premises. | Landlord here. This is very concerning. Tell your landlord that by law they need to provide the proper notice to access the apartment. Also, you should consider tucking in a door stop under the door to make it harder to open should the landlord try to enter when you’re home. | 0 | 1,980 | 8 |
wg4a6x | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | IS MY LANDLORD ALLOWED TO DO THIS TO ME?!?!?!?!?? Hello,, I recently moved into a new apartment and i’ve already had two incidents where my landlord is doing things that have made me think twice. A few days ago I was helping my friend move his things out of my apartment and our door was open because of this. then my land lord pulled up to the property and simply let himself in with no permission nor reason because we did not need him… but we let it slide cause the door was open and sure it was weird but ehh. Today however, is a different story. early in the morning he unlocked our door with a master key and let himself in because he “had to drop off a mailbox key”. something about the situation made me feel uneasy because i was a few ft away asleep while a man was inside my home… a mailbox key does not seem like a valid reason to just come into my home unannounced. I would like to clarify that in our lease he said “Locks are on a master key system. Your locks will be changed prior to moving in upon request. landlord has a master key and must have access to space in case of emergency. I will never enter your space without you being present unless it is an emergency like water coming out your front door.” however, dropping off a mailbox key because the locksmith forgot to does not seem like an emergency. I am scared and i don’t know if it’s confirmation bias but I just have a bad feeling about him and want to know my options or what i should do to keep myself and roommates protected. any ideas would be greatly appreciated!! | iixf0ru | iiy1gto | 1,659,627,350 | 1,659,635,808 | 3 | 184 | Hi there! I’m the LegalFAQ bot. It looks like you may be experiencing housing issues related to housing or eviction. Come to https://legalfaq.org to find legal resources for renters in each state. You can also find links to local groups that can help you with legal, financial, or other problems at https://legalfaq.org/getHelp. Help us provide accurate advice to fellow redditors: if your post was related to housing or eviction, please like this comment; otherwise, please dislike this comment. *v0.1* | Landlord here. This is very concerning. Tell your landlord that by law they need to provide the proper notice to access the apartment. Also, you should consider tucking in a door stop under the door to make it harder to open should the landlord try to enter when you’re home. | 0 | 8,458 | 61.333333 |
wg4a6x | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | IS MY LANDLORD ALLOWED TO DO THIS TO ME?!?!?!?!?? Hello,, I recently moved into a new apartment and i’ve already had two incidents where my landlord is doing things that have made me think twice. A few days ago I was helping my friend move his things out of my apartment and our door was open because of this. then my land lord pulled up to the property and simply let himself in with no permission nor reason because we did not need him… but we let it slide cause the door was open and sure it was weird but ehh. Today however, is a different story. early in the morning he unlocked our door with a master key and let himself in because he “had to drop off a mailbox key”. something about the situation made me feel uneasy because i was a few ft away asleep while a man was inside my home… a mailbox key does not seem like a valid reason to just come into my home unannounced. I would like to clarify that in our lease he said “Locks are on a master key system. Your locks will be changed prior to moving in upon request. landlord has a master key and must have access to space in case of emergency. I will never enter your space without you being present unless it is an emergency like water coming out your front door.” however, dropping off a mailbox key because the locksmith forgot to does not seem like an emergency. I am scared and i don’t know if it’s confirmation bias but I just have a bad feeling about him and want to know my options or what i should do to keep myself and roommates protected. any ideas would be greatly appreciated!! | iixf0ru | iixghrf | 1,659,627,350 | 1,659,627,912 | 3 | 41 | Hi there! I’m the LegalFAQ bot. It looks like you may be experiencing housing issues related to housing or eviction. Come to https://legalfaq.org to find legal resources for renters in each state. You can also find links to local groups that can help you with legal, financial, or other problems at https://legalfaq.org/getHelp. Help us provide accurate advice to fellow redditors: if your post was related to housing or eviction, please like this comment; otherwise, please dislike this comment. *v0.1* | What state? | 0 | 562 | 13.666667 |
wg4a6x | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | IS MY LANDLORD ALLOWED TO DO THIS TO ME?!?!?!?!?? Hello,, I recently moved into a new apartment and i’ve already had two incidents where my landlord is doing things that have made me think twice. A few days ago I was helping my friend move his things out of my apartment and our door was open because of this. then my land lord pulled up to the property and simply let himself in with no permission nor reason because we did not need him… but we let it slide cause the door was open and sure it was weird but ehh. Today however, is a different story. early in the morning he unlocked our door with a master key and let himself in because he “had to drop off a mailbox key”. something about the situation made me feel uneasy because i was a few ft away asleep while a man was inside my home… a mailbox key does not seem like a valid reason to just come into my home unannounced. I would like to clarify that in our lease he said “Locks are on a master key system. Your locks will be changed prior to moving in upon request. landlord has a master key and must have access to space in case of emergency. I will never enter your space without you being present unless it is an emergency like water coming out your front door.” however, dropping off a mailbox key because the locksmith forgot to does not seem like an emergency. I am scared and i don’t know if it’s confirmation bias but I just have a bad feeling about him and want to know my options or what i should do to keep myself and roommates protected. any ideas would be greatly appreciated!! | iixtq0b | iixf0ru | 1,659,632,916 | 1,659,627,350 | 33 | 3 | Check your lease and verify what is says regarding entry by your landlord. Usually they say they need to notify 24 hours in advance. | Hi there! I’m the LegalFAQ bot. It looks like you may be experiencing housing issues related to housing or eviction. Come to https://legalfaq.org to find legal resources for renters in each state. You can also find links to local groups that can help you with legal, financial, or other problems at https://legalfaq.org/getHelp. Help us provide accurate advice to fellow redditors: if your post was related to housing or eviction, please like this comment; otherwise, please dislike this comment. *v0.1* | 1 | 5,566 | 11 |
wg4a6x | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | IS MY LANDLORD ALLOWED TO DO THIS TO ME?!?!?!?!?? Hello,, I recently moved into a new apartment and i’ve already had two incidents where my landlord is doing things that have made me think twice. A few days ago I was helping my friend move his things out of my apartment and our door was open because of this. then my land lord pulled up to the property and simply let himself in with no permission nor reason because we did not need him… but we let it slide cause the door was open and sure it was weird but ehh. Today however, is a different story. early in the morning he unlocked our door with a master key and let himself in because he “had to drop off a mailbox key”. something about the situation made me feel uneasy because i was a few ft away asleep while a man was inside my home… a mailbox key does not seem like a valid reason to just come into my home unannounced. I would like to clarify that in our lease he said “Locks are on a master key system. Your locks will be changed prior to moving in upon request. landlord has a master key and must have access to space in case of emergency. I will never enter your space without you being present unless it is an emergency like water coming out your front door.” however, dropping off a mailbox key because the locksmith forgot to does not seem like an emergency. I am scared and i don’t know if it’s confirmation bias but I just have a bad feeling about him and want to know my options or what i should do to keep myself and roommates protected. any ideas would be greatly appreciated!! | iixw5cm | iixf0ru | 1,659,633,828 | 1,659,627,350 | 23 | 3 | Here is the law.... 83.53 Landlord’s access to dwelling unit.— (1) The tenant shall not unreasonably withhold consent to the landlord to enter the dwelling unit from time to time in order to inspect the premises; make necessary or agreed repairs, decorations, alterations, or improvements; supply agreed services; or exhibit the dwelling unit to prospective or actual purchasers, mortgagees, tenants, workers, or contractors. (2) The landlord may enter the dwelling unit at any time for the protection or preservation of the premises. The landlord may enter the dwelling unit upon reasonable notice to the tenant and at a reasonable time for the purpose of repair of the premises. “Reasonable notice” for the purpose of repair is notice given at least 24 hours prior to the entry, and reasonable time for the purpose of repair shall be between the hours of 7:30 a.m. and 8:00 p.m. The landlord may enter the dwelling unit when necessary for the further purposes set forth in subsection (1) under any of the following circumstances: (a) With the consent of the tenant; (b) In case of emergency; (c) When the tenant unreasonably withholds consent; or (d) If the tenant is absent from the premises for a period of time equal to one-half the time for periodic rental payments. If the rent is current and the tenant notifies the landlord of an intended absence, then the landlord may enter only with the consent of the tenant or for the protection or preservation of the premises. | Hi there! I’m the LegalFAQ bot. It looks like you may be experiencing housing issues related to housing or eviction. Come to https://legalfaq.org to find legal resources for renters in each state. You can also find links to local groups that can help you with legal, financial, or other problems at https://legalfaq.org/getHelp. Help us provide accurate advice to fellow redditors: if your post was related to housing or eviction, please like this comment; otherwise, please dislike this comment. *v0.1* | 1 | 6,478 | 7.666667 |
zg1tqj | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Landlord won't fix malfunctioning fire alarm. It is destroying my quality of life. I am a tenant in Ohio staying in an apartment complex. My room is on the bottom floor next to a machine room that houses elevator machinery and a boiler. Beginning in September, a loud, 2-second pulse of a high pitch beep began going off every 8.5 seconds and it is followed by a higher-pitched but slightly quieter beep. The original beep is coming from the room next to mine and the secondary beep is coming from the fire alarm control panel near the entrance. It is loud and you have to call somebody to shut it off. No maintenance is available after 5 pm or before 9am or on the weekends. So if it goes off in the evening, you have to hear it all night. If it goes off on a Friday night, you have to hear it all weekend. It prohibits me from sleeping, studying, and (I work from home) working in my apartment. I am a student at the University here and the invasiveness of this noise makes me go home every weekend so I can sleep in peace. it is so loud, due to it emanating from right next to my room, and high pitched that you can hear it with white noise playing, tv on, etc. The frequency at which it is going off is increasing. It used to be once they shut it off it would be a week before it went off again. Now, it goes off again within the hour of them shutting it off. Sometimes, when they are called the maintenance people do not even show up because they are sick of it and I can hear them complaining about me in the hallway. I literally heard one of them say they don't know how to fix it. I have been repeatedly lied to and/or mislead about the causes of this noise. At first, I was told it just happens sometimes. Then I was accused of vaping and setting it off (I quit vaping in June before I moved into the apartment and have never vaped or smoked in my apartment). Then I was told it is going off because other people are vaping in their apartments. Then I was told the boiler in the machine room is overheating and that is what is causing it. And now I am being told that the smoke heads on the detector are faulty and they were replaced last week. The alarm went off all weekend and is going off again today. However, the message on the fire alarm control panel says "fire trouble" a quick Google search of the system suggests that this is an electrical issue with the system. A post on the fire alarm subreddit had people telling me that it needs to be fixed by a certified technician not the apartment maintenance staff and that they likely are unaware of the root cause of the problem. I was originally told they will move me to a new apartment if they cannot fix the issue. Then I was told they will not have any available units until January and they asked for more time to fix it and that in the mean time they will find me a unit in case they can't. Today, I was told I am not being moved. And that the issue has been fixed. I had to come back with a recording to show them it is not and they acted confused. I would like to be moved. The lease states they will if there is cause and they already said they would move me before going back on it. My guess is they got a tenant for the unit they were going to move me to originally. I would even consider breaking the lease and moving however rent has gone up in the area and leaving would represent a significant increase in monthly rent. I called the fire Marshall and made an anonymous complaint. I would like to know what other remedies I can pursue on my own. What type of lawyer I should contact and what would they be able to do + any advice. Thank you. | izfs6ex | izfc898 | 1,670,529,776 | 1,670,523,573 | 109 | 80 | Call the fire Marshall and the fire department each time it happens. The fire department can silence it when they come out. This will also create a call record and eventually fines for your apartment complex. | If it were me, I'd be calling 911 every time I heard a fire alarm going off. I'm certainly not qualified to diagnose if an error message on an alarm system means there's actually no fire. | 1 | 6,203 | 1.3625 |
zg1tqj | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Landlord won't fix malfunctioning fire alarm. It is destroying my quality of life. I am a tenant in Ohio staying in an apartment complex. My room is on the bottom floor next to a machine room that houses elevator machinery and a boiler. Beginning in September, a loud, 2-second pulse of a high pitch beep began going off every 8.5 seconds and it is followed by a higher-pitched but slightly quieter beep. The original beep is coming from the room next to mine and the secondary beep is coming from the fire alarm control panel near the entrance. It is loud and you have to call somebody to shut it off. No maintenance is available after 5 pm or before 9am or on the weekends. So if it goes off in the evening, you have to hear it all night. If it goes off on a Friday night, you have to hear it all weekend. It prohibits me from sleeping, studying, and (I work from home) working in my apartment. I am a student at the University here and the invasiveness of this noise makes me go home every weekend so I can sleep in peace. it is so loud, due to it emanating from right next to my room, and high pitched that you can hear it with white noise playing, tv on, etc. The frequency at which it is going off is increasing. It used to be once they shut it off it would be a week before it went off again. Now, it goes off again within the hour of them shutting it off. Sometimes, when they are called the maintenance people do not even show up because they are sick of it and I can hear them complaining about me in the hallway. I literally heard one of them say they don't know how to fix it. I have been repeatedly lied to and/or mislead about the causes of this noise. At first, I was told it just happens sometimes. Then I was accused of vaping and setting it off (I quit vaping in June before I moved into the apartment and have never vaped or smoked in my apartment). Then I was told it is going off because other people are vaping in their apartments. Then I was told the boiler in the machine room is overheating and that is what is causing it. And now I am being told that the smoke heads on the detector are faulty and they were replaced last week. The alarm went off all weekend and is going off again today. However, the message on the fire alarm control panel says "fire trouble" a quick Google search of the system suggests that this is an electrical issue with the system. A post on the fire alarm subreddit had people telling me that it needs to be fixed by a certified technician not the apartment maintenance staff and that they likely are unaware of the root cause of the problem. I was originally told they will move me to a new apartment if they cannot fix the issue. Then I was told they will not have any available units until January and they asked for more time to fix it and that in the mean time they will find me a unit in case they can't. Today, I was told I am not being moved. And that the issue has been fixed. I had to come back with a recording to show them it is not and they acted confused. I would like to be moved. The lease states they will if there is cause and they already said they would move me before going back on it. My guess is they got a tenant for the unit they were going to move me to originally. I would even consider breaking the lease and moving however rent has gone up in the area and leaving would represent a significant increase in monthly rent. I called the fire Marshall and made an anonymous complaint. I would like to know what other remedies I can pursue on my own. What type of lawyer I should contact and what would they be able to do + any advice. Thank you. | izgycwt | izhdwzn | 1,670,547,445 | 1,670,554,745 | 4 | 75 | Call 911. Tell them the fire alarm is beeping. Repeat EVERY time. Call 911, not the non-emergency number. You don't know the difference, and also it is entirely likely the building is not protected by a fire alarm is going off. | Hi. I engineer fire alarm systems. 1. What state are you in? 2. Bypass the fire department. Go to the building department. You need the building inspector or the building commissioner. The building department in the US has jurisdiction over the fire department. The Authority Having Jurisdiction (Fd or building) has the authority to drop an NFPA 1 (again, I’m in the US in Ma) which is an immediate threat the safety of the public. If you have a ground fault or a short on the circuit (which can cause the fire alarm to go into trouble) this may (depending on issue) inhibit the system from functioning properly. 3. DO NOT CALL 911. This is not an emergency. It’s not Carbon monoxide (the panel would require reset). It’s not smoke (alarm would go off). It’s probably a loose wire that intermittently causes a trouble. Troubles on fire panels are self restoring. They shut themselves up when they are fixed. 4. Hag the ever loving shit out of the management company. Every day. All day. Ask for their boss. Threaten legal action for an incorrectly functioning fire alarm. 5. Call the STATE fire marshal, not the local department. Don’t be anonymous. If your building system fails to work, you will be known for the wrong reason. 6. Be gentle with the fire alarm tech that fixes it. We (alarm companies) often get stiffed on payment and won’t roll a truck due to overdue balance. It’s not his fault. 7. Call management again. And again. And again. | 0 | 7,300 | 18.75 |
uzfltd | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | [Texas] It's hot, the central air is blowing hot and my landlord says I'm not allowed to have a window unit. Can they stop me from using my own air conditioner until they finally get my central air repaired? Most of the details are in the title. I had been using a window unit (after contacting the landlord) and they said I needed to remove it or I would be charged a fine. I removed it, dealt with the heat for a couple of days, then finally they had someone check out our central air. After that it 'worked' for three days (still not able to go below 75) but now the breaker for the compressor flips as soon as I turn it on and it continues to blow hot air. I've got a desk thermometer and it's usually between 85 and 92 Fahrenheit. | iaagywd | iacezqm | 1,653,724,167 | 1,653,765,567 | 6 | 13 | What does the lease say about having a window unit? I don't know much of anything about Texas law so don't take my word for it, but it appears that you can deduct repair costs from rent if the landlord doesn't make necessary repairs after up to 7 days depending on the severity. https://caretaker.com/learn/habitability/repair-and-deduct-laws-in-texas One of the qualifying categories is: >The landlord has agreed to furnish heating or cooling and the equipment is not working adequately, and the landlord has been notified in writing by a local health, housing, or building official that the lack of heating or cooling materially affects health or safety of an ordinary tenant A broken A/C isn't on its own considered to be a health and safety hazard, but if you have any conditions that make it dangerous then that may be an avenue worth exploring. In case it hasn't been done yet, have you checked the HVAC filter? Those are generally easy to replace and a clogged filter can really cause issues to the unit which could have allowed the random temporary fix followed by the breaker switching. | Without knowing what the lease specifically states, yes, they can prohibit a window air conditioner. The breaker tripping on the outside unit means there is a short from the hot leads to ground. This would require an ac tech. The only thing you can do it contact the landlord everyday but do it in writing so you have a record, file a maintenance request if they have a website and if it is still not fixed than you can contact your local government/town officials. Also, if it is written into the lease that the landlord will supply and maintain the air conditioning and they fail to do so in a timely fashion then technically you could argue that the landlord is violating his own lease. | 0 | 41,400 | 2.166667 |
uzfltd | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | [Texas] It's hot, the central air is blowing hot and my landlord says I'm not allowed to have a window unit. Can they stop me from using my own air conditioner until they finally get my central air repaired? Most of the details are in the title. I had been using a window unit (after contacting the landlord) and they said I needed to remove it or I would be charged a fine. I removed it, dealt with the heat for a couple of days, then finally they had someone check out our central air. After that it 'worked' for three days (still not able to go below 75) but now the breaker for the compressor flips as soon as I turn it on and it continues to blow hot air. I've got a desk thermometer and it's usually between 85 and 92 Fahrenheit. | iaazb4i | iacezqm | 1,653,739,703 | 1,653,765,567 | 2 | 13 | Read your lease. Does it say that window units are not allowed? Does it say that the landlord can fine you? The landlord cannot make up new rules not agreed to on the lease. | Without knowing what the lease specifically states, yes, they can prohibit a window air conditioner. The breaker tripping on the outside unit means there is a short from the hot leads to ground. This would require an ac tech. The only thing you can do it contact the landlord everyday but do it in writing so you have a record, file a maintenance request if they have a website and if it is still not fixed than you can contact your local government/town officials. Also, if it is written into the lease that the landlord will supply and maintain the air conditioning and they fail to do so in a timely fashion then technically you could argue that the landlord is violating his own lease. | 0 | 25,864 | 6.5 |
ettgbc | legaladvice_train | 0.85 | Car v. Pedestrian! I got hit by a car while walking and don't know what to do next! Hello! So i got hit by a car yesterday and I have no idea what to do next. I was crossing on a crosswalk on second and the next a car is ramming into me. I have a badly sprained ankle, cant walk, and bodily pains all over. I don't know if my ankle was dislocated but when I saw it it was twisted in a way it shouldn't be, so I popped it back. I could hear and feel the pop. Anyways I have his insurance and info, but what can i do next. Does insurance pay for ambulance, hospital, missed days of work, and my pain? Any advice i can get!! | ffiftbq | ffifdk0 | 1,579,972,846 | 1,579,972,545 | 61 | 22 | DO NOT TALK TO HIS INSURANCE COMPANY. Do not give them a recorded or other statement. You are not obligated to do this despite what they tell you. Finish treating and talk to a personal injury attorney. Not the kind that advertises, but get a referral from someone you know if possible. What state are you in? | You contact a personal injury lawyer. Their insurance should pay for everything and you can also get paid for work missed and any other expenses directly and some indirectly related to the accident. Also, you have a police report? | 1 | 301 | 2.772727 |
i91ftc | legaladvice_train | 0.75 | I a few girls were harassed by a person with some power over them, and don't know what to do I don't know how to write this in a way that reddit won't cancel, but I'm in high school and those friends of mine too. This happend sometime ago, and as soon as we discovered that wasn't just one girl, we decided to do something, but we don't know what, the issue involves messages and "accidental" touches. We have proof, so please tell me if we have a case, and if it's worthy tell someone, maybe they won't care, the only thing we want is to make sure that no one else will have to go through this. | g1c7stf | g1c1sc1 | 1,597,334,217 | 1,597,331,420 | 10 | 9 | I don't know Brazil's laws to know if he has violated the law, but it would be worth it to have each of you file a police report and let them sort it out. One police report can be buried, but multiple reports get harder to ignore. Your parents should also pressure the school principal and administration to act. You might also reach out to local women's organizations who may know who to contact for local resources. | We'll need a location to help - is this a teacher? | 1 | 2,797 | 1.111111 |
i91ftc | legaladvice_train | 0.75 | I a few girls were harassed by a person with some power over them, and don't know what to do I don't know how to write this in a way that reddit won't cancel, but I'm in high school and those friends of mine too. This happend sometime ago, and as soon as we discovered that wasn't just one girl, we decided to do something, but we don't know what, the issue involves messages and "accidental" touches. We have proof, so please tell me if we have a case, and if it's worthy tell someone, maybe they won't care, the only thing we want is to make sure that no one else will have to go through this. | g1c7stf | g1c19v2 | 1,597,334,217 | 1,597,331,176 | 10 | 5 | I don't know Brazil's laws to know if he has violated the law, but it would be worth it to have each of you file a police report and let them sort it out. One police report can be buried, but multiple reports get harder to ignore. Your parents should also pressure the school principal and administration to act. You might also reach out to local women's organizations who may know who to contact for local resources. | What state? Public or private high school? Teacher? Administrator? Staff? | 1 | 3,041 | 2 |
i91ftc | legaladvice_train | 0.75 | I a few girls were harassed by a person with some power over them, and don't know what to do I don't know how to write this in a way that reddit won't cancel, but I'm in high school and those friends of mine too. This happend sometime ago, and as soon as we discovered that wasn't just one girl, we decided to do something, but we don't know what, the issue involves messages and "accidental" touches. We have proof, so please tell me if we have a case, and if it's worthy tell someone, maybe they won't care, the only thing we want is to make sure that no one else will have to go through this. | g1c1sc1 | g1c19v2 | 1,597,331,420 | 1,597,331,176 | 9 | 5 | We'll need a location to help - is this a teacher? | What state? Public or private high school? Teacher? Administrator? Staff? | 1 | 244 | 1.8 |
vanuqi | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Work hired a private investigator to stalk an employee on medical leave This is in CT. I started getting weird neurological medical symptoms at the start of this year, and after about a month of pushing through and trying to work my supervisor recommend I apply for FMLA since I was running out of sick days. I put in an application with my HR rep, my doctor says he sent the paperwork, and I stop going in to work and stop receiving paychecks. On weekends I go to farmer's markets for my small business, and I kept doing that - but my husband did all the work. I would just sit there and talk to customers because I was sick of being stuck in bed. I would be exhausted for the rest of the week each time I did this, but it kept me sane. My therapist agreed. After two full months of radio silence from work, I get an urgent call from the COO (who I have never met). He says I never qualified for FMLA since I didn't work there long enough and demands I return to work the next day. I try to explain that I'm still sick, but he's incredibly nasty. Eventually he says I either need to be at work the next day or send a doctor's note to the new HR rep (apparently the old one quit). It took me almost a week to actually get the note from my GP (the post COVID medical system is very backed up), and in that time I heard nothing from them and got no answers to my questions. A while after I sent in the note, I get a call from the HR rep saying the board has put me on a medical leave of absence (which is normally something you have to apply for), and that means they don't subsidize my health insurance anymore. I can't afford the premium without a paycheck, so I move over to my husband's insurance. Then comes a multi-week dance of them demanding new doctors notes or my return to work last minute over and over while changing the story on how often they wanted them. My doctors start getting annoyed with how frequently I'm calling them because all the notes clearly state that I shouldn't work until further notice. My issues are going to take a while to resolve. THEN I get summoned to a mandatory meeting on Friday with union representation. They reveal that they hired a private investigator to follow me to farmer's markets. They did this a full month before the COO called me, before I knew there was any issue with my FMLA application. They kept doing it for months after that too. They show me spy video of me talking to customers and lifting my purse as proof of me "being able to work." When I try to point out that sitting in a field one day a week is different from a five day work week in a skilled, exhausting service profession, they yell at me, call me an imposter (literally pulling open webster's dictionary), and threaten to take away my license (which I dont think they can do). They claimed to have overpaid me by a few thousand dollars but they'll forgive that if I resign and sign something saying I won't sue. The nightmare of this situation has given me stress induced alopecia (hair loss), multiple panic attacks, and paranoia that I'm being filmed at markets. My doctors can attest to these symptoms. Also, no matter if they fire me or if I resign, the nature of this drama means nobody else in this field will want to hire me. Coworkers aren't replying to my texts anymore so I think they've already started to blackball me. Do I have grounds for any kind of labor dispute or personal injury lawsuit? Why wouldnt they just fire me? Surely it would have been cheaper than a PI. | ic3oztj | ic3h9lo | 1,655,051,273 | 1,655,047,674 | 726 | 415 | one key thing I wonder is your statement they said you didn't qualify for FMLA because you "didn't work there long enough". did you work at least 12 months before requesting leave, and for at least 1250 hours? if not, they would be correct, you would not be eligible yet for FMLA leave edit: this is based on federal standards, I do not know if ct has additional ones. also Not a lawyer. | It's legal for employers to hire investigators to surveil employees suspected of abusing FMLA leave. It's not uncommon for employees to take FMLA leave for supposedly debilitating injuries and then the surveillance video shows them skiing, doing really strenuous yard work, doing the same type of work for another employer, etc. And often those employees can be justifiably disciplined/fired for FMLA misuse. That said, there is also a lot of case law saying that just because someone is on FMLA leave doesn't mean they have to be sitting at home the entire time in bed with the curtains closed. People are allowed to be out of the house while on FMLA leave, especially if it's shopping for necessities, going to the pharmacy, etc. So one key issue here would be what were your general work duties with your employer and what symptoms did you or your doctor claim made you unable to work. And was your working at the farmer's market inconsistent with your claim that you were experiencing symptoms making you too sick to work for your employer. If your job with your employer is incredibly strenuous, and that's why you were too sick to work there, but well enough to work at the farmer's market, you might have a winnable case for FMLA retaliation if they fire you. Another issue is whether the employer had a uniform policy forbidding anyone on any leave absence from working in another job, and did they apply that to all employees on all leaves of absence. If they had no such policy that would benefit you, and you might be able to win even if your second farmer's market job was similar in strenuousness to your main job. | 1 | 3,599 | 1.749398 |
vanuqi | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Work hired a private investigator to stalk an employee on medical leave This is in CT. I started getting weird neurological medical symptoms at the start of this year, and after about a month of pushing through and trying to work my supervisor recommend I apply for FMLA since I was running out of sick days. I put in an application with my HR rep, my doctor says he sent the paperwork, and I stop going in to work and stop receiving paychecks. On weekends I go to farmer's markets for my small business, and I kept doing that - but my husband did all the work. I would just sit there and talk to customers because I was sick of being stuck in bed. I would be exhausted for the rest of the week each time I did this, but it kept me sane. My therapist agreed. After two full months of radio silence from work, I get an urgent call from the COO (who I have never met). He says I never qualified for FMLA since I didn't work there long enough and demands I return to work the next day. I try to explain that I'm still sick, but he's incredibly nasty. Eventually he says I either need to be at work the next day or send a doctor's note to the new HR rep (apparently the old one quit). It took me almost a week to actually get the note from my GP (the post COVID medical system is very backed up), and in that time I heard nothing from them and got no answers to my questions. A while after I sent in the note, I get a call from the HR rep saying the board has put me on a medical leave of absence (which is normally something you have to apply for), and that means they don't subsidize my health insurance anymore. I can't afford the premium without a paycheck, so I move over to my husband's insurance. Then comes a multi-week dance of them demanding new doctors notes or my return to work last minute over and over while changing the story on how often they wanted them. My doctors start getting annoyed with how frequently I'm calling them because all the notes clearly state that I shouldn't work until further notice. My issues are going to take a while to resolve. THEN I get summoned to a mandatory meeting on Friday with union representation. They reveal that they hired a private investigator to follow me to farmer's markets. They did this a full month before the COO called me, before I knew there was any issue with my FMLA application. They kept doing it for months after that too. They show me spy video of me talking to customers and lifting my purse as proof of me "being able to work." When I try to point out that sitting in a field one day a week is different from a five day work week in a skilled, exhausting service profession, they yell at me, call me an imposter (literally pulling open webster's dictionary), and threaten to take away my license (which I dont think they can do). They claimed to have overpaid me by a few thousand dollars but they'll forgive that if I resign and sign something saying I won't sue. The nightmare of this situation has given me stress induced alopecia (hair loss), multiple panic attacks, and paranoia that I'm being filmed at markets. My doctors can attest to these symptoms. Also, no matter if they fire me or if I resign, the nature of this drama means nobody else in this field will want to hire me. Coworkers aren't replying to my texts anymore so I think they've already started to blackball me. Do I have grounds for any kind of labor dispute or personal injury lawsuit? Why wouldnt they just fire me? Surely it would have been cheaper than a PI. | ic4c8f8 | ic3vdua | 1,655,061,957 | 1,655,054,221 | 341 | 38 | Your situation does not make a lot of sense, so it appears some facts may be missing. You mention that you were represented by a union rep, and that the employer threatened to have your license pulled. So you must be in a union job and I am guessing you may have a trade license, like plumber, electrician, etc. Unless you are in the medical field, which is rarely unionized. So if you are in a union, what is your union rep doing to support you? Have they provided legal representation to you? And in what way can your employer threaten to have your license pulled? If you're not eligible for FMLA, then you have no case under FMLA. But depending on your job and your union, you may have a union case against the employer. Harassment is hard to prove legally. It sounds like the employer is trying to build a case to terminate you, but they are concerned you or your union may file a lawsuit for unlawful termination, which is why they tried to bully you into resigning. If you are represented by your union, they should be the people to best advise you on your options in this situation. But can always visit with an attorney that specializes in labor law and get a second opinion. Good luck and I hope you feel better. | What are the physical requirements of your job? | 1 | 7,736 | 8.973684 |
vanuqi | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Work hired a private investigator to stalk an employee on medical leave This is in CT. I started getting weird neurological medical symptoms at the start of this year, and after about a month of pushing through and trying to work my supervisor recommend I apply for FMLA since I was running out of sick days. I put in an application with my HR rep, my doctor says he sent the paperwork, and I stop going in to work and stop receiving paychecks. On weekends I go to farmer's markets for my small business, and I kept doing that - but my husband did all the work. I would just sit there and talk to customers because I was sick of being stuck in bed. I would be exhausted for the rest of the week each time I did this, but it kept me sane. My therapist agreed. After two full months of radio silence from work, I get an urgent call from the COO (who I have never met). He says I never qualified for FMLA since I didn't work there long enough and demands I return to work the next day. I try to explain that I'm still sick, but he's incredibly nasty. Eventually he says I either need to be at work the next day or send a doctor's note to the new HR rep (apparently the old one quit). It took me almost a week to actually get the note from my GP (the post COVID medical system is very backed up), and in that time I heard nothing from them and got no answers to my questions. A while after I sent in the note, I get a call from the HR rep saying the board has put me on a medical leave of absence (which is normally something you have to apply for), and that means they don't subsidize my health insurance anymore. I can't afford the premium without a paycheck, so I move over to my husband's insurance. Then comes a multi-week dance of them demanding new doctors notes or my return to work last minute over and over while changing the story on how often they wanted them. My doctors start getting annoyed with how frequently I'm calling them because all the notes clearly state that I shouldn't work until further notice. My issues are going to take a while to resolve. THEN I get summoned to a mandatory meeting on Friday with union representation. They reveal that they hired a private investigator to follow me to farmer's markets. They did this a full month before the COO called me, before I knew there was any issue with my FMLA application. They kept doing it for months after that too. They show me spy video of me talking to customers and lifting my purse as proof of me "being able to work." When I try to point out that sitting in a field one day a week is different from a five day work week in a skilled, exhausting service profession, they yell at me, call me an imposter (literally pulling open webster's dictionary), and threaten to take away my license (which I dont think they can do). They claimed to have overpaid me by a few thousand dollars but they'll forgive that if I resign and sign something saying I won't sue. The nightmare of this situation has given me stress induced alopecia (hair loss), multiple panic attacks, and paranoia that I'm being filmed at markets. My doctors can attest to these symptoms. Also, no matter if they fire me or if I resign, the nature of this drama means nobody else in this field will want to hire me. Coworkers aren't replying to my texts anymore so I think they've already started to blackball me. Do I have grounds for any kind of labor dispute or personal injury lawsuit? Why wouldnt they just fire me? Surely it would have been cheaper than a PI. | ic3vdua | ic48yd1 | 1,655,054,221 | 1,655,060,452 | 38 | 342 | What are the physical requirements of your job? | When you initially submitted your fmla request you should have submitted a wh-380 and your company is required within ten days I believe to confirm or deny your request with a wh-381 form. I know you said they are saying you didn’t qualify but if you requested this form and received one it will benefit you. You need to find this form if you ever received one as it will have all the specifics on what you were required to do as far as reporting. Depending on this form and how your employer responded will be if you have a case or not. Hiring a PI is legal but what they found and how they responded may not have been. Find that form. | 0 | 6,231 | 9 |
vanuqi | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Work hired a private investigator to stalk an employee on medical leave This is in CT. I started getting weird neurological medical symptoms at the start of this year, and after about a month of pushing through and trying to work my supervisor recommend I apply for FMLA since I was running out of sick days. I put in an application with my HR rep, my doctor says he sent the paperwork, and I stop going in to work and stop receiving paychecks. On weekends I go to farmer's markets for my small business, and I kept doing that - but my husband did all the work. I would just sit there and talk to customers because I was sick of being stuck in bed. I would be exhausted for the rest of the week each time I did this, but it kept me sane. My therapist agreed. After two full months of radio silence from work, I get an urgent call from the COO (who I have never met). He says I never qualified for FMLA since I didn't work there long enough and demands I return to work the next day. I try to explain that I'm still sick, but he's incredibly nasty. Eventually he says I either need to be at work the next day or send a doctor's note to the new HR rep (apparently the old one quit). It took me almost a week to actually get the note from my GP (the post COVID medical system is very backed up), and in that time I heard nothing from them and got no answers to my questions. A while after I sent in the note, I get a call from the HR rep saying the board has put me on a medical leave of absence (which is normally something you have to apply for), and that means they don't subsidize my health insurance anymore. I can't afford the premium without a paycheck, so I move over to my husband's insurance. Then comes a multi-week dance of them demanding new doctors notes or my return to work last minute over and over while changing the story on how often they wanted them. My doctors start getting annoyed with how frequently I'm calling them because all the notes clearly state that I shouldn't work until further notice. My issues are going to take a while to resolve. THEN I get summoned to a mandatory meeting on Friday with union representation. They reveal that they hired a private investigator to follow me to farmer's markets. They did this a full month before the COO called me, before I knew there was any issue with my FMLA application. They kept doing it for months after that too. They show me spy video of me talking to customers and lifting my purse as proof of me "being able to work." When I try to point out that sitting in a field one day a week is different from a five day work week in a skilled, exhausting service profession, they yell at me, call me an imposter (literally pulling open webster's dictionary), and threaten to take away my license (which I dont think they can do). They claimed to have overpaid me by a few thousand dollars but they'll forgive that if I resign and sign something saying I won't sue. The nightmare of this situation has given me stress induced alopecia (hair loss), multiple panic attacks, and paranoia that I'm being filmed at markets. My doctors can attest to these symptoms. Also, no matter if they fire me or if I resign, the nature of this drama means nobody else in this field will want to hire me. Coworkers aren't replying to my texts anymore so I think they've already started to blackball me. Do I have grounds for any kind of labor dispute or personal injury lawsuit? Why wouldnt they just fire me? Surely it would have been cheaper than a PI. | ic3vdua | ic4d46c | 1,655,054,221 | 1,655,062,366 | 38 | 97 | What are the physical requirements of your job? | I am not a lawyer, but I have worked on the side of an employer investigating disability claims. As other posters have said, it is not uncommon for a PI to be hired to investigate the legitimacy of FMLA or disability claims. While in most locations, FMLA may not have any employee pay attached, there is likely a requirement to continue to cover an employee's health insurance during the FMLA period, so there is a cost to the employer during this period, not to mention the employee likely still holding a position, possibly hiring a temp for back fill. Other posters gave information about what you can do to see if the FMLA request was handled correctly. Do that. Now, if they actually offered to forgive overpayment as long as you resign and sign off on not sueing, that is not the actions of a company who are just reacting to an honest mistake. Signing something if you don't sue just is a flag that there might be a dispute to talk to a labor lawyer about. Gather all paperwork you can about your hiring, the paperwork surrounding your FMLA request and leave, health insurance documentation, and your medical documents and bring them all to a lawyer specializing either in labor, fmla, or possibly disability claims. Also, if you have in writing your supervisor's recommendation to use FMLA, secure that. For your being recorded at the farmers market, to claim fraudulent disability, the standard is set to what the medical claim is. If the disability claim states the person cannot perform a function at all, as in it would be impossible for someone to perform a task like standing or walking (think paraplegic), then a recording of a person doing it occasionally would be pretty damming. If the claim is a person cannot perform a task for a long period of time, and there are recordings of the occasional performing of the task, than it should hold far less weight and a lawyer should be able to argue how it doesn't hold up to a claim of fraud. But this certainly is lawyer territory. To go full pessimist, since you don't have the FMLA resource, your employer may see that your next step may be filing a disability claim, and this may be a tactic to get you to be gone before it gets to that point. Look into that with doctor/lawyer, especially if this is something that developed under your employer's health insurance. | 0 | 8,145 | 2.552632 |
vanuqi | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Work hired a private investigator to stalk an employee on medical leave This is in CT. I started getting weird neurological medical symptoms at the start of this year, and after about a month of pushing through and trying to work my supervisor recommend I apply for FMLA since I was running out of sick days. I put in an application with my HR rep, my doctor says he sent the paperwork, and I stop going in to work and stop receiving paychecks. On weekends I go to farmer's markets for my small business, and I kept doing that - but my husband did all the work. I would just sit there and talk to customers because I was sick of being stuck in bed. I would be exhausted for the rest of the week each time I did this, but it kept me sane. My therapist agreed. After two full months of radio silence from work, I get an urgent call from the COO (who I have never met). He says I never qualified for FMLA since I didn't work there long enough and demands I return to work the next day. I try to explain that I'm still sick, but he's incredibly nasty. Eventually he says I either need to be at work the next day or send a doctor's note to the new HR rep (apparently the old one quit). It took me almost a week to actually get the note from my GP (the post COVID medical system is very backed up), and in that time I heard nothing from them and got no answers to my questions. A while after I sent in the note, I get a call from the HR rep saying the board has put me on a medical leave of absence (which is normally something you have to apply for), and that means they don't subsidize my health insurance anymore. I can't afford the premium without a paycheck, so I move over to my husband's insurance. Then comes a multi-week dance of them demanding new doctors notes or my return to work last minute over and over while changing the story on how often they wanted them. My doctors start getting annoyed with how frequently I'm calling them because all the notes clearly state that I shouldn't work until further notice. My issues are going to take a while to resolve. THEN I get summoned to a mandatory meeting on Friday with union representation. They reveal that they hired a private investigator to follow me to farmer's markets. They did this a full month before the COO called me, before I knew there was any issue with my FMLA application. They kept doing it for months after that too. They show me spy video of me talking to customers and lifting my purse as proof of me "being able to work." When I try to point out that sitting in a field one day a week is different from a five day work week in a skilled, exhausting service profession, they yell at me, call me an imposter (literally pulling open webster's dictionary), and threaten to take away my license (which I dont think they can do). They claimed to have overpaid me by a few thousand dollars but they'll forgive that if I resign and sign something saying I won't sue. The nightmare of this situation has given me stress induced alopecia (hair loss), multiple panic attacks, and paranoia that I'm being filmed at markets. My doctors can attest to these symptoms. Also, no matter if they fire me or if I resign, the nature of this drama means nobody else in this field will want to hire me. Coworkers aren't replying to my texts anymore so I think they've already started to blackball me. Do I have grounds for any kind of labor dispute or personal injury lawsuit? Why wouldnt they just fire me? Surely it would have been cheaper than a PI. | ic3vdua | ic4d64r | 1,655,054,221 | 1,655,062,391 | 38 | 67 | What are the physical requirements of your job? | working at another for profit endeavor while claiming that you are unable to work in your main job is going to raise major red flags anywhere. That being said, you do not have any basis to bring a personal injury lawsuit | 0 | 8,170 | 1.763158 |
vanuqi | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Work hired a private investigator to stalk an employee on medical leave This is in CT. I started getting weird neurological medical symptoms at the start of this year, and after about a month of pushing through and trying to work my supervisor recommend I apply for FMLA since I was running out of sick days. I put in an application with my HR rep, my doctor says he sent the paperwork, and I stop going in to work and stop receiving paychecks. On weekends I go to farmer's markets for my small business, and I kept doing that - but my husband did all the work. I would just sit there and talk to customers because I was sick of being stuck in bed. I would be exhausted for the rest of the week each time I did this, but it kept me sane. My therapist agreed. After two full months of radio silence from work, I get an urgent call from the COO (who I have never met). He says I never qualified for FMLA since I didn't work there long enough and demands I return to work the next day. I try to explain that I'm still sick, but he's incredibly nasty. Eventually he says I either need to be at work the next day or send a doctor's note to the new HR rep (apparently the old one quit). It took me almost a week to actually get the note from my GP (the post COVID medical system is very backed up), and in that time I heard nothing from them and got no answers to my questions. A while after I sent in the note, I get a call from the HR rep saying the board has put me on a medical leave of absence (which is normally something you have to apply for), and that means they don't subsidize my health insurance anymore. I can't afford the premium without a paycheck, so I move over to my husband's insurance. Then comes a multi-week dance of them demanding new doctors notes or my return to work last minute over and over while changing the story on how often they wanted them. My doctors start getting annoyed with how frequently I'm calling them because all the notes clearly state that I shouldn't work until further notice. My issues are going to take a while to resolve. THEN I get summoned to a mandatory meeting on Friday with union representation. They reveal that they hired a private investigator to follow me to farmer's markets. They did this a full month before the COO called me, before I knew there was any issue with my FMLA application. They kept doing it for months after that too. They show me spy video of me talking to customers and lifting my purse as proof of me "being able to work." When I try to point out that sitting in a field one day a week is different from a five day work week in a skilled, exhausting service profession, they yell at me, call me an imposter (literally pulling open webster's dictionary), and threaten to take away my license (which I dont think they can do). They claimed to have overpaid me by a few thousand dollars but they'll forgive that if I resign and sign something saying I won't sue. The nightmare of this situation has given me stress induced alopecia (hair loss), multiple panic attacks, and paranoia that I'm being filmed at markets. My doctors can attest to these symptoms. Also, no matter if they fire me or if I resign, the nature of this drama means nobody else in this field will want to hire me. Coworkers aren't replying to my texts anymore so I think they've already started to blackball me. Do I have grounds for any kind of labor dispute or personal injury lawsuit? Why wouldnt they just fire me? Surely it would have been cheaper than a PI. | ic4h5nw | ic5hj6m | 1,655,064,255 | 1,655,082,415 | 31 | 34 | I hate to say it but you're probably genuinely going to need a lawyer's advice in this instance. I would start with the union you mentioned and see what legal help and advice they can give you and if that doesn't pan out reach out to an FMLA lawyer. This is one of those things where what happens is going to heavily depend on the details. What exactly is wrong with you, what exactly you filed with and recieved from your company, what exactly your job entails and what exactly the footage shows at the farmers market. Make sure you are saving the harassment and demands from your employer and documenting everything | Former private investigator here: you don’t want to be in any scenario that they could make into “you earning money or having the ability to do so”. While I agree you helping your husband is rather innocent it can easily be misconstrued by a sharp attorney There is a tremendous amount of insurance fraud going on, be smart and they will get tired of spending money tracking you. Personally I think an attorney is in order. Good luck | 0 | 18,160 | 1.096774 |
vanuqi | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Work hired a private investigator to stalk an employee on medical leave This is in CT. I started getting weird neurological medical symptoms at the start of this year, and after about a month of pushing through and trying to work my supervisor recommend I apply for FMLA since I was running out of sick days. I put in an application with my HR rep, my doctor says he sent the paperwork, and I stop going in to work and stop receiving paychecks. On weekends I go to farmer's markets for my small business, and I kept doing that - but my husband did all the work. I would just sit there and talk to customers because I was sick of being stuck in bed. I would be exhausted for the rest of the week each time I did this, but it kept me sane. My therapist agreed. After two full months of radio silence from work, I get an urgent call from the COO (who I have never met). He says I never qualified for FMLA since I didn't work there long enough and demands I return to work the next day. I try to explain that I'm still sick, but he's incredibly nasty. Eventually he says I either need to be at work the next day or send a doctor's note to the new HR rep (apparently the old one quit). It took me almost a week to actually get the note from my GP (the post COVID medical system is very backed up), and in that time I heard nothing from them and got no answers to my questions. A while after I sent in the note, I get a call from the HR rep saying the board has put me on a medical leave of absence (which is normally something you have to apply for), and that means they don't subsidize my health insurance anymore. I can't afford the premium without a paycheck, so I move over to my husband's insurance. Then comes a multi-week dance of them demanding new doctors notes or my return to work last minute over and over while changing the story on how often they wanted them. My doctors start getting annoyed with how frequently I'm calling them because all the notes clearly state that I shouldn't work until further notice. My issues are going to take a while to resolve. THEN I get summoned to a mandatory meeting on Friday with union representation. They reveal that they hired a private investigator to follow me to farmer's markets. They did this a full month before the COO called me, before I knew there was any issue with my FMLA application. They kept doing it for months after that too. They show me spy video of me talking to customers and lifting my purse as proof of me "being able to work." When I try to point out that sitting in a field one day a week is different from a five day work week in a skilled, exhausting service profession, they yell at me, call me an imposter (literally pulling open webster's dictionary), and threaten to take away my license (which I dont think they can do). They claimed to have overpaid me by a few thousand dollars but they'll forgive that if I resign and sign something saying I won't sue. The nightmare of this situation has given me stress induced alopecia (hair loss), multiple panic attacks, and paranoia that I'm being filmed at markets. My doctors can attest to these symptoms. Also, no matter if they fire me or if I resign, the nature of this drama means nobody else in this field will want to hire me. Coworkers aren't replying to my texts anymore so I think they've already started to blackball me. Do I have grounds for any kind of labor dispute or personal injury lawsuit? Why wouldnt they just fire me? Surely it would have been cheaper than a PI. | ic5hj6m | ic4tgem | 1,655,082,415 | 1,655,070,058 | 34 | 27 | Former private investigator here: you don’t want to be in any scenario that they could make into “you earning money or having the ability to do so”. While I agree you helping your husband is rather innocent it can easily be misconstrued by a sharp attorney There is a tremendous amount of insurance fraud going on, be smart and they will get tired of spending money tracking you. Personally I think an attorney is in order. Good luck | Some practical advice as opposed to strictly legal advice: if a company is willing to go to all this trouble to harass you over a leave of absence that they aren't even paying you for, then it is not a company you want to work for. I'd highly suggest separating from this company and seeking new employment elsewhere. One piece of legal advice: You mentioned having a professional license- I would 100% contact the governing bureau that awarded you the license and advise them that the company you work for is illegally threatening your licensure. They cannot have your license revoked for you taking a leave of absence unless doing so caused knowing and irreparable harm to the **population or individuals you serve**- emphasis mine, as that group does not include the company as a business. Without knowing what sort of license it is, I cannot give you more info than that, but at least in the fields I am adjacent to, this kind of move is over-stepping significantly. | 1 | 12,357 | 1.259259 |
vanuqi | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Work hired a private investigator to stalk an employee on medical leave This is in CT. I started getting weird neurological medical symptoms at the start of this year, and after about a month of pushing through and trying to work my supervisor recommend I apply for FMLA since I was running out of sick days. I put in an application with my HR rep, my doctor says he sent the paperwork, and I stop going in to work and stop receiving paychecks. On weekends I go to farmer's markets for my small business, and I kept doing that - but my husband did all the work. I would just sit there and talk to customers because I was sick of being stuck in bed. I would be exhausted for the rest of the week each time I did this, but it kept me sane. My therapist agreed. After two full months of radio silence from work, I get an urgent call from the COO (who I have never met). He says I never qualified for FMLA since I didn't work there long enough and demands I return to work the next day. I try to explain that I'm still sick, but he's incredibly nasty. Eventually he says I either need to be at work the next day or send a doctor's note to the new HR rep (apparently the old one quit). It took me almost a week to actually get the note from my GP (the post COVID medical system is very backed up), and in that time I heard nothing from them and got no answers to my questions. A while after I sent in the note, I get a call from the HR rep saying the board has put me on a medical leave of absence (which is normally something you have to apply for), and that means they don't subsidize my health insurance anymore. I can't afford the premium without a paycheck, so I move over to my husband's insurance. Then comes a multi-week dance of them demanding new doctors notes or my return to work last minute over and over while changing the story on how often they wanted them. My doctors start getting annoyed with how frequently I'm calling them because all the notes clearly state that I shouldn't work until further notice. My issues are going to take a while to resolve. THEN I get summoned to a mandatory meeting on Friday with union representation. They reveal that they hired a private investigator to follow me to farmer's markets. They did this a full month before the COO called me, before I knew there was any issue with my FMLA application. They kept doing it for months after that too. They show me spy video of me talking to customers and lifting my purse as proof of me "being able to work." When I try to point out that sitting in a field one day a week is different from a five day work week in a skilled, exhausting service profession, they yell at me, call me an imposter (literally pulling open webster's dictionary), and threaten to take away my license (which I dont think they can do). They claimed to have overpaid me by a few thousand dollars but they'll forgive that if I resign and sign something saying I won't sue. The nightmare of this situation has given me stress induced alopecia (hair loss), multiple panic attacks, and paranoia that I'm being filmed at markets. My doctors can attest to these symptoms. Also, no matter if they fire me or if I resign, the nature of this drama means nobody else in this field will want to hire me. Coworkers aren't replying to my texts anymore so I think they've already started to blackball me. Do I have grounds for any kind of labor dispute or personal injury lawsuit? Why wouldnt they just fire me? Surely it would have been cheaper than a PI. | ic5hj6m | ic5f6yz | 1,655,082,415 | 1,655,081,164 | 34 | 23 | Former private investigator here: you don’t want to be in any scenario that they could make into “you earning money or having the ability to do so”. While I agree you helping your husband is rather innocent it can easily be misconstrued by a sharp attorney There is a tremendous amount of insurance fraud going on, be smart and they will get tired of spending money tracking you. Personally I think an attorney is in order. Good luck | I am not a lawyer, I am however an HR Professional in CT. My first question is have you worked for this employer for 3 months? And I’m assuming if there is a COO, they have more than 2 employees. If you have worked for more than 3 months, you are entitled to 12 weeks under the new FMLA regulations that were effective 1/1/22, including paid family leave. (You should have a .5% deduction on your paycheck mandatory by the state) This is 100% lawyer territory, and you also need to file a claim with the state for violations of your rights under state fmla. | 1 | 1,251 | 1.478261 |
vanuqi | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Work hired a private investigator to stalk an employee on medical leave This is in CT. I started getting weird neurological medical symptoms at the start of this year, and after about a month of pushing through and trying to work my supervisor recommend I apply for FMLA since I was running out of sick days. I put in an application with my HR rep, my doctor says he sent the paperwork, and I stop going in to work and stop receiving paychecks. On weekends I go to farmer's markets for my small business, and I kept doing that - but my husband did all the work. I would just sit there and talk to customers because I was sick of being stuck in bed. I would be exhausted for the rest of the week each time I did this, but it kept me sane. My therapist agreed. After two full months of radio silence from work, I get an urgent call from the COO (who I have never met). He says I never qualified for FMLA since I didn't work there long enough and demands I return to work the next day. I try to explain that I'm still sick, but he's incredibly nasty. Eventually he says I either need to be at work the next day or send a doctor's note to the new HR rep (apparently the old one quit). It took me almost a week to actually get the note from my GP (the post COVID medical system is very backed up), and in that time I heard nothing from them and got no answers to my questions. A while after I sent in the note, I get a call from the HR rep saying the board has put me on a medical leave of absence (which is normally something you have to apply for), and that means they don't subsidize my health insurance anymore. I can't afford the premium without a paycheck, so I move over to my husband's insurance. Then comes a multi-week dance of them demanding new doctors notes or my return to work last minute over and over while changing the story on how often they wanted them. My doctors start getting annoyed with how frequently I'm calling them because all the notes clearly state that I shouldn't work until further notice. My issues are going to take a while to resolve. THEN I get summoned to a mandatory meeting on Friday with union representation. They reveal that they hired a private investigator to follow me to farmer's markets. They did this a full month before the COO called me, before I knew there was any issue with my FMLA application. They kept doing it for months after that too. They show me spy video of me talking to customers and lifting my purse as proof of me "being able to work." When I try to point out that sitting in a field one day a week is different from a five day work week in a skilled, exhausting service profession, they yell at me, call me an imposter (literally pulling open webster's dictionary), and threaten to take away my license (which I dont think they can do). They claimed to have overpaid me by a few thousand dollars but they'll forgive that if I resign and sign something saying I won't sue. The nightmare of this situation has given me stress induced alopecia (hair loss), multiple panic attacks, and paranoia that I'm being filmed at markets. My doctors can attest to these symptoms. Also, no matter if they fire me or if I resign, the nature of this drama means nobody else in this field will want to hire me. Coworkers aren't replying to my texts anymore so I think they've already started to blackball me. Do I have grounds for any kind of labor dispute or personal injury lawsuit? Why wouldnt they just fire me? Surely it would have been cheaper than a PI. | ic5hj6m | ic4jkwb | 1,655,082,415 | 1,655,065,380 | 34 | 16 | Former private investigator here: you don’t want to be in any scenario that they could make into “you earning money or having the ability to do so”. While I agree you helping your husband is rather innocent it can easily be misconstrued by a sharp attorney There is a tremendous amount of insurance fraud going on, be smart and they will get tired of spending money tracking you. Personally I think an attorney is in order. Good luck | Echoing the others, the first thing I wanted to ask was what did your union rep do? | 1 | 17,035 | 2.125 |
vanuqi | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Work hired a private investigator to stalk an employee on medical leave This is in CT. I started getting weird neurological medical symptoms at the start of this year, and after about a month of pushing through and trying to work my supervisor recommend I apply for FMLA since I was running out of sick days. I put in an application with my HR rep, my doctor says he sent the paperwork, and I stop going in to work and stop receiving paychecks. On weekends I go to farmer's markets for my small business, and I kept doing that - but my husband did all the work. I would just sit there and talk to customers because I was sick of being stuck in bed. I would be exhausted for the rest of the week each time I did this, but it kept me sane. My therapist agreed. After two full months of radio silence from work, I get an urgent call from the COO (who I have never met). He says I never qualified for FMLA since I didn't work there long enough and demands I return to work the next day. I try to explain that I'm still sick, but he's incredibly nasty. Eventually he says I either need to be at work the next day or send a doctor's note to the new HR rep (apparently the old one quit). It took me almost a week to actually get the note from my GP (the post COVID medical system is very backed up), and in that time I heard nothing from them and got no answers to my questions. A while after I sent in the note, I get a call from the HR rep saying the board has put me on a medical leave of absence (which is normally something you have to apply for), and that means they don't subsidize my health insurance anymore. I can't afford the premium without a paycheck, so I move over to my husband's insurance. Then comes a multi-week dance of them demanding new doctors notes or my return to work last minute over and over while changing the story on how often they wanted them. My doctors start getting annoyed with how frequently I'm calling them because all the notes clearly state that I shouldn't work until further notice. My issues are going to take a while to resolve. THEN I get summoned to a mandatory meeting on Friday with union representation. They reveal that they hired a private investigator to follow me to farmer's markets. They did this a full month before the COO called me, before I knew there was any issue with my FMLA application. They kept doing it for months after that too. They show me spy video of me talking to customers and lifting my purse as proof of me "being able to work." When I try to point out that sitting in a field one day a week is different from a five day work week in a skilled, exhausting service profession, they yell at me, call me an imposter (literally pulling open webster's dictionary), and threaten to take away my license (which I dont think they can do). They claimed to have overpaid me by a few thousand dollars but they'll forgive that if I resign and sign something saying I won't sue. The nightmare of this situation has given me stress induced alopecia (hair loss), multiple panic attacks, and paranoia that I'm being filmed at markets. My doctors can attest to these symptoms. Also, no matter if they fire me or if I resign, the nature of this drama means nobody else in this field will want to hire me. Coworkers aren't replying to my texts anymore so I think they've already started to blackball me. Do I have grounds for any kind of labor dispute or personal injury lawsuit? Why wouldnt they just fire me? Surely it would have been cheaper than a PI. | ic4nc3f | ic5hj6m | 1,655,067,137 | 1,655,082,415 | 10 | 34 | A lot of companies use PIs to investigate employees using FMLA, disability, and leave. I was told as long as your “activities” ONLY took place outside of your normal working hours you are allowed to stay on FMLA. Or sick leave, or whatever. For example, while on leave go grocery shopping an hour or so after you are normally off work - no problem. While on leave enter and participate in a pole dancing competition during work hours - BIG problem (don’t laugh, we had a person do that. And post it to social media!). Find some quality help and fight back. Good luck. | Former private investigator here: you don’t want to be in any scenario that they could make into “you earning money or having the ability to do so”. While I agree you helping your husband is rather innocent it can easily be misconstrued by a sharp attorney There is a tremendous amount of insurance fraud going on, be smart and they will get tired of spending money tracking you. Personally I think an attorney is in order. Good luck | 0 | 15,278 | 3.4 |
vanuqi | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Work hired a private investigator to stalk an employee on medical leave This is in CT. I started getting weird neurological medical symptoms at the start of this year, and after about a month of pushing through and trying to work my supervisor recommend I apply for FMLA since I was running out of sick days. I put in an application with my HR rep, my doctor says he sent the paperwork, and I stop going in to work and stop receiving paychecks. On weekends I go to farmer's markets for my small business, and I kept doing that - but my husband did all the work. I would just sit there and talk to customers because I was sick of being stuck in bed. I would be exhausted for the rest of the week each time I did this, but it kept me sane. My therapist agreed. After two full months of radio silence from work, I get an urgent call from the COO (who I have never met). He says I never qualified for FMLA since I didn't work there long enough and demands I return to work the next day. I try to explain that I'm still sick, but he's incredibly nasty. Eventually he says I either need to be at work the next day or send a doctor's note to the new HR rep (apparently the old one quit). It took me almost a week to actually get the note from my GP (the post COVID medical system is very backed up), and in that time I heard nothing from them and got no answers to my questions. A while after I sent in the note, I get a call from the HR rep saying the board has put me on a medical leave of absence (which is normally something you have to apply for), and that means they don't subsidize my health insurance anymore. I can't afford the premium without a paycheck, so I move over to my husband's insurance. Then comes a multi-week dance of them demanding new doctors notes or my return to work last minute over and over while changing the story on how often they wanted them. My doctors start getting annoyed with how frequently I'm calling them because all the notes clearly state that I shouldn't work until further notice. My issues are going to take a while to resolve. THEN I get summoned to a mandatory meeting on Friday with union representation. They reveal that they hired a private investigator to follow me to farmer's markets. They did this a full month before the COO called me, before I knew there was any issue with my FMLA application. They kept doing it for months after that too. They show me spy video of me talking to customers and lifting my purse as proof of me "being able to work." When I try to point out that sitting in a field one day a week is different from a five day work week in a skilled, exhausting service profession, they yell at me, call me an imposter (literally pulling open webster's dictionary), and threaten to take away my license (which I dont think they can do). They claimed to have overpaid me by a few thousand dollars but they'll forgive that if I resign and sign something saying I won't sue. The nightmare of this situation has given me stress induced alopecia (hair loss), multiple panic attacks, and paranoia that I'm being filmed at markets. My doctors can attest to these symptoms. Also, no matter if they fire me or if I resign, the nature of this drama means nobody else in this field will want to hire me. Coworkers aren't replying to my texts anymore so I think they've already started to blackball me. Do I have grounds for any kind of labor dispute or personal injury lawsuit? Why wouldnt they just fire me? Surely it would have been cheaper than a PI. | ic52i68 | ic5hj6m | 1,655,074,491 | 1,655,082,415 | 8 | 34 | Hey there. I just went through something similar for a year and a half. Contact a civil rights/employment attorney in your state. Preferably an attorney that does both. Don't just pick a one-person firm if you can. A multi-lawyer practice will be a stronger force for you. The deal is, you should have a Reasonable Accommodation--even if you did not specifically use those words--for an accommodation for your situation. The fact that your employer is requesting repeated medical documentation, after you have already provided it, is illegal under the Americans With Disabilities Act. (ADA). Don't wait until tomorrow to call. Find an attorney online, fill out their intake forms tonight, and request a consultation, urgently. At the appointment, tell them everything you told us here. Save every email correspondence. Every text message. They are not allowed to continuously harass you. An attorney will help get this resolved. Since they're also effing with your insurance while you are ill, that's even more evidence in your favor. FYI, in case you are reluctant to pay the consult or retainer fees-+those are the ONE thing that you CAN write off on your Federal taxes, because this is an employment-related issue where you are disputing an issue with your employer. | Former private investigator here: you don’t want to be in any scenario that they could make into “you earning money or having the ability to do so”. While I agree you helping your husband is rather innocent it can easily be misconstrued by a sharp attorney There is a tremendous amount of insurance fraud going on, be smart and they will get tired of spending money tracking you. Personally I think an attorney is in order. Good luck | 0 | 7,924 | 4.25 |
vanuqi | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Work hired a private investigator to stalk an employee on medical leave This is in CT. I started getting weird neurological medical symptoms at the start of this year, and after about a month of pushing through and trying to work my supervisor recommend I apply for FMLA since I was running out of sick days. I put in an application with my HR rep, my doctor says he sent the paperwork, and I stop going in to work and stop receiving paychecks. On weekends I go to farmer's markets for my small business, and I kept doing that - but my husband did all the work. I would just sit there and talk to customers because I was sick of being stuck in bed. I would be exhausted for the rest of the week each time I did this, but it kept me sane. My therapist agreed. After two full months of radio silence from work, I get an urgent call from the COO (who I have never met). He says I never qualified for FMLA since I didn't work there long enough and demands I return to work the next day. I try to explain that I'm still sick, but he's incredibly nasty. Eventually he says I either need to be at work the next day or send a doctor's note to the new HR rep (apparently the old one quit). It took me almost a week to actually get the note from my GP (the post COVID medical system is very backed up), and in that time I heard nothing from them and got no answers to my questions. A while after I sent in the note, I get a call from the HR rep saying the board has put me on a medical leave of absence (which is normally something you have to apply for), and that means they don't subsidize my health insurance anymore. I can't afford the premium without a paycheck, so I move over to my husband's insurance. Then comes a multi-week dance of them demanding new doctors notes or my return to work last minute over and over while changing the story on how often they wanted them. My doctors start getting annoyed with how frequently I'm calling them because all the notes clearly state that I shouldn't work until further notice. My issues are going to take a while to resolve. THEN I get summoned to a mandatory meeting on Friday with union representation. They reveal that they hired a private investigator to follow me to farmer's markets. They did this a full month before the COO called me, before I knew there was any issue with my FMLA application. They kept doing it for months after that too. They show me spy video of me talking to customers and lifting my purse as proof of me "being able to work." When I try to point out that sitting in a field one day a week is different from a five day work week in a skilled, exhausting service profession, they yell at me, call me an imposter (literally pulling open webster's dictionary), and threaten to take away my license (which I dont think they can do). They claimed to have overpaid me by a few thousand dollars but they'll forgive that if I resign and sign something saying I won't sue. The nightmare of this situation has given me stress induced alopecia (hair loss), multiple panic attacks, and paranoia that I'm being filmed at markets. My doctors can attest to these symptoms. Also, no matter if they fire me or if I resign, the nature of this drama means nobody else in this field will want to hire me. Coworkers aren't replying to my texts anymore so I think they've already started to blackball me. Do I have grounds for any kind of labor dispute or personal injury lawsuit? Why wouldnt they just fire me? Surely it would have been cheaper than a PI. | ic4jkwb | ic4tgem | 1,655,065,380 | 1,655,070,058 | 16 | 27 | Echoing the others, the first thing I wanted to ask was what did your union rep do? | Some practical advice as opposed to strictly legal advice: if a company is willing to go to all this trouble to harass you over a leave of absence that they aren't even paying you for, then it is not a company you want to work for. I'd highly suggest separating from this company and seeking new employment elsewhere. One piece of legal advice: You mentioned having a professional license- I would 100% contact the governing bureau that awarded you the license and advise them that the company you work for is illegally threatening your licensure. They cannot have your license revoked for you taking a leave of absence unless doing so caused knowing and irreparable harm to the **population or individuals you serve**- emphasis mine, as that group does not include the company as a business. Without knowing what sort of license it is, I cannot give you more info than that, but at least in the fields I am adjacent to, this kind of move is over-stepping significantly. | 0 | 4,678 | 1.6875 |
vanuqi | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Work hired a private investigator to stalk an employee on medical leave This is in CT. I started getting weird neurological medical symptoms at the start of this year, and after about a month of pushing through and trying to work my supervisor recommend I apply for FMLA since I was running out of sick days. I put in an application with my HR rep, my doctor says he sent the paperwork, and I stop going in to work and stop receiving paychecks. On weekends I go to farmer's markets for my small business, and I kept doing that - but my husband did all the work. I would just sit there and talk to customers because I was sick of being stuck in bed. I would be exhausted for the rest of the week each time I did this, but it kept me sane. My therapist agreed. After two full months of radio silence from work, I get an urgent call from the COO (who I have never met). He says I never qualified for FMLA since I didn't work there long enough and demands I return to work the next day. I try to explain that I'm still sick, but he's incredibly nasty. Eventually he says I either need to be at work the next day or send a doctor's note to the new HR rep (apparently the old one quit). It took me almost a week to actually get the note from my GP (the post COVID medical system is very backed up), and in that time I heard nothing from them and got no answers to my questions. A while after I sent in the note, I get a call from the HR rep saying the board has put me on a medical leave of absence (which is normally something you have to apply for), and that means they don't subsidize my health insurance anymore. I can't afford the premium without a paycheck, so I move over to my husband's insurance. Then comes a multi-week dance of them demanding new doctors notes or my return to work last minute over and over while changing the story on how often they wanted them. My doctors start getting annoyed with how frequently I'm calling them because all the notes clearly state that I shouldn't work until further notice. My issues are going to take a while to resolve. THEN I get summoned to a mandatory meeting on Friday with union representation. They reveal that they hired a private investigator to follow me to farmer's markets. They did this a full month before the COO called me, before I knew there was any issue with my FMLA application. They kept doing it for months after that too. They show me spy video of me talking to customers and lifting my purse as proof of me "being able to work." When I try to point out that sitting in a field one day a week is different from a five day work week in a skilled, exhausting service profession, they yell at me, call me an imposter (literally pulling open webster's dictionary), and threaten to take away my license (which I dont think they can do). They claimed to have overpaid me by a few thousand dollars but they'll forgive that if I resign and sign something saying I won't sue. The nightmare of this situation has given me stress induced alopecia (hair loss), multiple panic attacks, and paranoia that I'm being filmed at markets. My doctors can attest to these symptoms. Also, no matter if they fire me or if I resign, the nature of this drama means nobody else in this field will want to hire me. Coworkers aren't replying to my texts anymore so I think they've already started to blackball me. Do I have grounds for any kind of labor dispute or personal injury lawsuit? Why wouldnt they just fire me? Surely it would have been cheaper than a PI. | ic4nc3f | ic4tgem | 1,655,067,137 | 1,655,070,058 | 10 | 27 | A lot of companies use PIs to investigate employees using FMLA, disability, and leave. I was told as long as your “activities” ONLY took place outside of your normal working hours you are allowed to stay on FMLA. Or sick leave, or whatever. For example, while on leave go grocery shopping an hour or so after you are normally off work - no problem. While on leave enter and participate in a pole dancing competition during work hours - BIG problem (don’t laugh, we had a person do that. And post it to social media!). Find some quality help and fight back. Good luck. | Some practical advice as opposed to strictly legal advice: if a company is willing to go to all this trouble to harass you over a leave of absence that they aren't even paying you for, then it is not a company you want to work for. I'd highly suggest separating from this company and seeking new employment elsewhere. One piece of legal advice: You mentioned having a professional license- I would 100% contact the governing bureau that awarded you the license and advise them that the company you work for is illegally threatening your licensure. They cannot have your license revoked for you taking a leave of absence unless doing so caused knowing and irreparable harm to the **population or individuals you serve**- emphasis mine, as that group does not include the company as a business. Without knowing what sort of license it is, I cannot give you more info than that, but at least in the fields I am adjacent to, this kind of move is over-stepping significantly. | 0 | 2,921 | 2.7 |
vanuqi | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Work hired a private investigator to stalk an employee on medical leave This is in CT. I started getting weird neurological medical symptoms at the start of this year, and after about a month of pushing through and trying to work my supervisor recommend I apply for FMLA since I was running out of sick days. I put in an application with my HR rep, my doctor says he sent the paperwork, and I stop going in to work and stop receiving paychecks. On weekends I go to farmer's markets for my small business, and I kept doing that - but my husband did all the work. I would just sit there and talk to customers because I was sick of being stuck in bed. I would be exhausted for the rest of the week each time I did this, but it kept me sane. My therapist agreed. After two full months of radio silence from work, I get an urgent call from the COO (who I have never met). He says I never qualified for FMLA since I didn't work there long enough and demands I return to work the next day. I try to explain that I'm still sick, but he's incredibly nasty. Eventually he says I either need to be at work the next day or send a doctor's note to the new HR rep (apparently the old one quit). It took me almost a week to actually get the note from my GP (the post COVID medical system is very backed up), and in that time I heard nothing from them and got no answers to my questions. A while after I sent in the note, I get a call from the HR rep saying the board has put me on a medical leave of absence (which is normally something you have to apply for), and that means they don't subsidize my health insurance anymore. I can't afford the premium without a paycheck, so I move over to my husband's insurance. Then comes a multi-week dance of them demanding new doctors notes or my return to work last minute over and over while changing the story on how often they wanted them. My doctors start getting annoyed with how frequently I'm calling them because all the notes clearly state that I shouldn't work until further notice. My issues are going to take a while to resolve. THEN I get summoned to a mandatory meeting on Friday with union representation. They reveal that they hired a private investigator to follow me to farmer's markets. They did this a full month before the COO called me, before I knew there was any issue with my FMLA application. They kept doing it for months after that too. They show me spy video of me talking to customers and lifting my purse as proof of me "being able to work." When I try to point out that sitting in a field one day a week is different from a five day work week in a skilled, exhausting service profession, they yell at me, call me an imposter (literally pulling open webster's dictionary), and threaten to take away my license (which I dont think they can do). They claimed to have overpaid me by a few thousand dollars but they'll forgive that if I resign and sign something saying I won't sue. The nightmare of this situation has given me stress induced alopecia (hair loss), multiple panic attacks, and paranoia that I'm being filmed at markets. My doctors can attest to these symptoms. Also, no matter if they fire me or if I resign, the nature of this drama means nobody else in this field will want to hire me. Coworkers aren't replying to my texts anymore so I think they've already started to blackball me. Do I have grounds for any kind of labor dispute or personal injury lawsuit? Why wouldnt they just fire me? Surely it would have been cheaper than a PI. | ic5f6yz | ic4jkwb | 1,655,081,164 | 1,655,065,380 | 23 | 16 | I am not a lawyer, I am however an HR Professional in CT. My first question is have you worked for this employer for 3 months? And I’m assuming if there is a COO, they have more than 2 employees. If you have worked for more than 3 months, you are entitled to 12 weeks under the new FMLA regulations that were effective 1/1/22, including paid family leave. (You should have a .5% deduction on your paycheck mandatory by the state) This is 100% lawyer territory, and you also need to file a claim with the state for violations of your rights under state fmla. | Echoing the others, the first thing I wanted to ask was what did your union rep do? | 1 | 15,784 | 1.4375 |
vanuqi | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Work hired a private investigator to stalk an employee on medical leave This is in CT. I started getting weird neurological medical symptoms at the start of this year, and after about a month of pushing through and trying to work my supervisor recommend I apply for FMLA since I was running out of sick days. I put in an application with my HR rep, my doctor says he sent the paperwork, and I stop going in to work and stop receiving paychecks. On weekends I go to farmer's markets for my small business, and I kept doing that - but my husband did all the work. I would just sit there and talk to customers because I was sick of being stuck in bed. I would be exhausted for the rest of the week each time I did this, but it kept me sane. My therapist agreed. After two full months of radio silence from work, I get an urgent call from the COO (who I have never met). He says I never qualified for FMLA since I didn't work there long enough and demands I return to work the next day. I try to explain that I'm still sick, but he's incredibly nasty. Eventually he says I either need to be at work the next day or send a doctor's note to the new HR rep (apparently the old one quit). It took me almost a week to actually get the note from my GP (the post COVID medical system is very backed up), and in that time I heard nothing from them and got no answers to my questions. A while after I sent in the note, I get a call from the HR rep saying the board has put me on a medical leave of absence (which is normally something you have to apply for), and that means they don't subsidize my health insurance anymore. I can't afford the premium without a paycheck, so I move over to my husband's insurance. Then comes a multi-week dance of them demanding new doctors notes or my return to work last minute over and over while changing the story on how often they wanted them. My doctors start getting annoyed with how frequently I'm calling them because all the notes clearly state that I shouldn't work until further notice. My issues are going to take a while to resolve. THEN I get summoned to a mandatory meeting on Friday with union representation. They reveal that they hired a private investigator to follow me to farmer's markets. They did this a full month before the COO called me, before I knew there was any issue with my FMLA application. They kept doing it for months after that too. They show me spy video of me talking to customers and lifting my purse as proof of me "being able to work." When I try to point out that sitting in a field one day a week is different from a five day work week in a skilled, exhausting service profession, they yell at me, call me an imposter (literally pulling open webster's dictionary), and threaten to take away my license (which I dont think they can do). They claimed to have overpaid me by a few thousand dollars but they'll forgive that if I resign and sign something saying I won't sue. The nightmare of this situation has given me stress induced alopecia (hair loss), multiple panic attacks, and paranoia that I'm being filmed at markets. My doctors can attest to these symptoms. Also, no matter if they fire me or if I resign, the nature of this drama means nobody else in this field will want to hire me. Coworkers aren't replying to my texts anymore so I think they've already started to blackball me. Do I have grounds for any kind of labor dispute or personal injury lawsuit? Why wouldnt they just fire me? Surely it would have been cheaper than a PI. | ic4nc3f | ic5f6yz | 1,655,067,137 | 1,655,081,164 | 10 | 23 | A lot of companies use PIs to investigate employees using FMLA, disability, and leave. I was told as long as your “activities” ONLY took place outside of your normal working hours you are allowed to stay on FMLA. Or sick leave, or whatever. For example, while on leave go grocery shopping an hour or so after you are normally off work - no problem. While on leave enter and participate in a pole dancing competition during work hours - BIG problem (don’t laugh, we had a person do that. And post it to social media!). Find some quality help and fight back. Good luck. | I am not a lawyer, I am however an HR Professional in CT. My first question is have you worked for this employer for 3 months? And I’m assuming if there is a COO, they have more than 2 employees. If you have worked for more than 3 months, you are entitled to 12 weeks under the new FMLA regulations that were effective 1/1/22, including paid family leave. (You should have a .5% deduction on your paycheck mandatory by the state) This is 100% lawyer territory, and you also need to file a claim with the state for violations of your rights under state fmla. | 0 | 14,027 | 2.3 |
vanuqi | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Work hired a private investigator to stalk an employee on medical leave This is in CT. I started getting weird neurological medical symptoms at the start of this year, and after about a month of pushing through and trying to work my supervisor recommend I apply for FMLA since I was running out of sick days. I put in an application with my HR rep, my doctor says he sent the paperwork, and I stop going in to work and stop receiving paychecks. On weekends I go to farmer's markets for my small business, and I kept doing that - but my husband did all the work. I would just sit there and talk to customers because I was sick of being stuck in bed. I would be exhausted for the rest of the week each time I did this, but it kept me sane. My therapist agreed. After two full months of radio silence from work, I get an urgent call from the COO (who I have never met). He says I never qualified for FMLA since I didn't work there long enough and demands I return to work the next day. I try to explain that I'm still sick, but he's incredibly nasty. Eventually he says I either need to be at work the next day or send a doctor's note to the new HR rep (apparently the old one quit). It took me almost a week to actually get the note from my GP (the post COVID medical system is very backed up), and in that time I heard nothing from them and got no answers to my questions. A while after I sent in the note, I get a call from the HR rep saying the board has put me on a medical leave of absence (which is normally something you have to apply for), and that means they don't subsidize my health insurance anymore. I can't afford the premium without a paycheck, so I move over to my husband's insurance. Then comes a multi-week dance of them demanding new doctors notes or my return to work last minute over and over while changing the story on how often they wanted them. My doctors start getting annoyed with how frequently I'm calling them because all the notes clearly state that I shouldn't work until further notice. My issues are going to take a while to resolve. THEN I get summoned to a mandatory meeting on Friday with union representation. They reveal that they hired a private investigator to follow me to farmer's markets. They did this a full month before the COO called me, before I knew there was any issue with my FMLA application. They kept doing it for months after that too. They show me spy video of me talking to customers and lifting my purse as proof of me "being able to work." When I try to point out that sitting in a field one day a week is different from a five day work week in a skilled, exhausting service profession, they yell at me, call me an imposter (literally pulling open webster's dictionary), and threaten to take away my license (which I dont think they can do). They claimed to have overpaid me by a few thousand dollars but they'll forgive that if I resign and sign something saying I won't sue. The nightmare of this situation has given me stress induced alopecia (hair loss), multiple panic attacks, and paranoia that I'm being filmed at markets. My doctors can attest to these symptoms. Also, no matter if they fire me or if I resign, the nature of this drama means nobody else in this field will want to hire me. Coworkers aren't replying to my texts anymore so I think they've already started to blackball me. Do I have grounds for any kind of labor dispute or personal injury lawsuit? Why wouldnt they just fire me? Surely it would have been cheaper than a PI. | ic52i68 | ic5f6yz | 1,655,074,491 | 1,655,081,164 | 8 | 23 | Hey there. I just went through something similar for a year and a half. Contact a civil rights/employment attorney in your state. Preferably an attorney that does both. Don't just pick a one-person firm if you can. A multi-lawyer practice will be a stronger force for you. The deal is, you should have a Reasonable Accommodation--even if you did not specifically use those words--for an accommodation for your situation. The fact that your employer is requesting repeated medical documentation, after you have already provided it, is illegal under the Americans With Disabilities Act. (ADA). Don't wait until tomorrow to call. Find an attorney online, fill out their intake forms tonight, and request a consultation, urgently. At the appointment, tell them everything you told us here. Save every email correspondence. Every text message. They are not allowed to continuously harass you. An attorney will help get this resolved. Since they're also effing with your insurance while you are ill, that's even more evidence in your favor. FYI, in case you are reluctant to pay the consult or retainer fees-+those are the ONE thing that you CAN write off on your Federal taxes, because this is an employment-related issue where you are disputing an issue with your employer. | I am not a lawyer, I am however an HR Professional in CT. My first question is have you worked for this employer for 3 months? And I’m assuming if there is a COO, they have more than 2 employees. If you have worked for more than 3 months, you are entitled to 12 weeks under the new FMLA regulations that were effective 1/1/22, including paid family leave. (You should have a .5% deduction on your paycheck mandatory by the state) This is 100% lawyer territory, and you also need to file a claim with the state for violations of your rights under state fmla. | 0 | 6,673 | 2.875 |
vanuqi | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Work hired a private investigator to stalk an employee on medical leave This is in CT. I started getting weird neurological medical symptoms at the start of this year, and after about a month of pushing through and trying to work my supervisor recommend I apply for FMLA since I was running out of sick days. I put in an application with my HR rep, my doctor says he sent the paperwork, and I stop going in to work and stop receiving paychecks. On weekends I go to farmer's markets for my small business, and I kept doing that - but my husband did all the work. I would just sit there and talk to customers because I was sick of being stuck in bed. I would be exhausted for the rest of the week each time I did this, but it kept me sane. My therapist agreed. After two full months of radio silence from work, I get an urgent call from the COO (who I have never met). He says I never qualified for FMLA since I didn't work there long enough and demands I return to work the next day. I try to explain that I'm still sick, but he's incredibly nasty. Eventually he says I either need to be at work the next day or send a doctor's note to the new HR rep (apparently the old one quit). It took me almost a week to actually get the note from my GP (the post COVID medical system is very backed up), and in that time I heard nothing from them and got no answers to my questions. A while after I sent in the note, I get a call from the HR rep saying the board has put me on a medical leave of absence (which is normally something you have to apply for), and that means they don't subsidize my health insurance anymore. I can't afford the premium without a paycheck, so I move over to my husband's insurance. Then comes a multi-week dance of them demanding new doctors notes or my return to work last minute over and over while changing the story on how often they wanted them. My doctors start getting annoyed with how frequently I'm calling them because all the notes clearly state that I shouldn't work until further notice. My issues are going to take a while to resolve. THEN I get summoned to a mandatory meeting on Friday with union representation. They reveal that they hired a private investigator to follow me to farmer's markets. They did this a full month before the COO called me, before I knew there was any issue with my FMLA application. They kept doing it for months after that too. They show me spy video of me talking to customers and lifting my purse as proof of me "being able to work." When I try to point out that sitting in a field one day a week is different from a five day work week in a skilled, exhausting service profession, they yell at me, call me an imposter (literally pulling open webster's dictionary), and threaten to take away my license (which I dont think they can do). They claimed to have overpaid me by a few thousand dollars but they'll forgive that if I resign and sign something saying I won't sue. The nightmare of this situation has given me stress induced alopecia (hair loss), multiple panic attacks, and paranoia that I'm being filmed at markets. My doctors can attest to these symptoms. Also, no matter if they fire me or if I resign, the nature of this drama means nobody else in this field will want to hire me. Coworkers aren't replying to my texts anymore so I think they've already started to blackball me. Do I have grounds for any kind of labor dispute or personal injury lawsuit? Why wouldnt they just fire me? Surely it would have been cheaper than a PI. | ic5jpa8 | ic5lbij | 1,655,083,592 | 1,655,084,465 | 8 | 10 | Did you request reasonable accommodation? This would be where they would modify your job for a period of time to conform to your abilities. It is not uncommon for companies to investigate FMLA or disability claims as they can be very expensive and fraud is common. The video of you working what amounts to a part time retail cashier / customer service job while on FMLA is not going to go over great. Very few companies do not have some sort of job that needs doing that would generally fall into this category, they may well be successful at arguing that they could have accommodated you in some form or another. Two things you need to find out as soon as you can: * Was the company actually obligated to pay your medical insurance during this time, because if they were not then you may indeed have been "over paid". * If you are, in fact, a member of the union at this point. If you have stopped paying dues then you may have given up many of the protections. I'd strongly suggest a lawyer, but given what you said about your financial situation if you do go without one you should be careful and thoughtful in what you do. There are several things in this story that I would generally say are not in your favor, you'll need to be mindful of how things could be viewed later down the road. | Of course they quit paying for your medical costs… you were not entitled to them. | 0 | 873 | 1.25 |
vanuqi | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Work hired a private investigator to stalk an employee on medical leave This is in CT. I started getting weird neurological medical symptoms at the start of this year, and after about a month of pushing through and trying to work my supervisor recommend I apply for FMLA since I was running out of sick days. I put in an application with my HR rep, my doctor says he sent the paperwork, and I stop going in to work and stop receiving paychecks. On weekends I go to farmer's markets for my small business, and I kept doing that - but my husband did all the work. I would just sit there and talk to customers because I was sick of being stuck in bed. I would be exhausted for the rest of the week each time I did this, but it kept me sane. My therapist agreed. After two full months of radio silence from work, I get an urgent call from the COO (who I have never met). He says I never qualified for FMLA since I didn't work there long enough and demands I return to work the next day. I try to explain that I'm still sick, but he's incredibly nasty. Eventually he says I either need to be at work the next day or send a doctor's note to the new HR rep (apparently the old one quit). It took me almost a week to actually get the note from my GP (the post COVID medical system is very backed up), and in that time I heard nothing from them and got no answers to my questions. A while after I sent in the note, I get a call from the HR rep saying the board has put me on a medical leave of absence (which is normally something you have to apply for), and that means they don't subsidize my health insurance anymore. I can't afford the premium without a paycheck, so I move over to my husband's insurance. Then comes a multi-week dance of them demanding new doctors notes or my return to work last minute over and over while changing the story on how often they wanted them. My doctors start getting annoyed with how frequently I'm calling them because all the notes clearly state that I shouldn't work until further notice. My issues are going to take a while to resolve. THEN I get summoned to a mandatory meeting on Friday with union representation. They reveal that they hired a private investigator to follow me to farmer's markets. They did this a full month before the COO called me, before I knew there was any issue with my FMLA application. They kept doing it for months after that too. They show me spy video of me talking to customers and lifting my purse as proof of me "being able to work." When I try to point out that sitting in a field one day a week is different from a five day work week in a skilled, exhausting service profession, they yell at me, call me an imposter (literally pulling open webster's dictionary), and threaten to take away my license (which I dont think they can do). They claimed to have overpaid me by a few thousand dollars but they'll forgive that if I resign and sign something saying I won't sue. The nightmare of this situation has given me stress induced alopecia (hair loss), multiple panic attacks, and paranoia that I'm being filmed at markets. My doctors can attest to these symptoms. Also, no matter if they fire me or if I resign, the nature of this drama means nobody else in this field will want to hire me. Coworkers aren't replying to my texts anymore so I think they've already started to blackball me. Do I have grounds for any kind of labor dispute or personal injury lawsuit? Why wouldnt they just fire me? Surely it would have been cheaper than a PI. | ic5lbij | ic52i68 | 1,655,084,465 | 1,655,074,491 | 10 | 8 | Of course they quit paying for your medical costs… you were not entitled to them. | Hey there. I just went through something similar for a year and a half. Contact a civil rights/employment attorney in your state. Preferably an attorney that does both. Don't just pick a one-person firm if you can. A multi-lawyer practice will be a stronger force for you. The deal is, you should have a Reasonable Accommodation--even if you did not specifically use those words--for an accommodation for your situation. The fact that your employer is requesting repeated medical documentation, after you have already provided it, is illegal under the Americans With Disabilities Act. (ADA). Don't wait until tomorrow to call. Find an attorney online, fill out their intake forms tonight, and request a consultation, urgently. At the appointment, tell them everything you told us here. Save every email correspondence. Every text message. They are not allowed to continuously harass you. An attorney will help get this resolved. Since they're also effing with your insurance while you are ill, that's even more evidence in your favor. FYI, in case you are reluctant to pay the consult or retainer fees-+those are the ONE thing that you CAN write off on your Federal taxes, because this is an employment-related issue where you are disputing an issue with your employer. | 1 | 9,974 | 1.25 |
qa534a | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My neighbor trespassed and stole two plants while I was out of town Like the title says, my across-the-street neighbor walked onto my property when I wasn’t home and stole plants sitting next to my house on the side of my driveway. I have her on camera walking onto my property multiple times and ultimately picking up and taking two large potted plants. I am in the state of Washington, and my understanding is that this is, at a minimum, criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.080) but she also stole things which I can’t find an applicable law for since all the burglary laws (RCW 9A.52.020 - RCW 9A.52.030) seem to apply to entering a dwelling. I don’t believe any of the defenses to criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.090) could apply since I’ve only spoken to her one time when I moved in a few months ago and have never given her permission to walk onto my property. The plants were near my trash cans but not out near the street or anything indicating that they were free for taking, and the plants have been there for months, since that’s where I keep them. So it seems she could try to claim the defense: *“(3) The actor reasonably believed that the owner of the premises, or other person empowered to license access thereto, would have licensed him or her to enter or remain;”* but there was no indication that the plants were up for the taking. I also have a photo of me watering the plants showing they are my and are on my property. So what are my options? Confront them and if they lie then tell them I have a video? Go straight to the police with the evidence? I know they are “just plants”, but they are mine, they are important to me, and I feel very violated by her taking them. | hh0q26e | hh0yahr | 1,634,498,573 | 1,634,502,018 | 249 | 750 | This is theft. Tell neighbor to give them back or you will escalate to the police. It may be a small matter but I would consider it worthwhile to draw a line since they have the boldness to just walk over and take others' property. | You said they were by the trash cans. Go to her and suggest that perhaps she was confused but they were not trash so please return them. That gives her a chance to fix it. And she will know you know and that you have cameras. If she doesn't. File a report. | 0 | 3,445 | 3.012048 |
qa534a | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My neighbor trespassed and stole two plants while I was out of town Like the title says, my across-the-street neighbor walked onto my property when I wasn’t home and stole plants sitting next to my house on the side of my driveway. I have her on camera walking onto my property multiple times and ultimately picking up and taking two large potted plants. I am in the state of Washington, and my understanding is that this is, at a minimum, criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.080) but she also stole things which I can’t find an applicable law for since all the burglary laws (RCW 9A.52.020 - RCW 9A.52.030) seem to apply to entering a dwelling. I don’t believe any of the defenses to criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.090) could apply since I’ve only spoken to her one time when I moved in a few months ago and have never given her permission to walk onto my property. The plants were near my trash cans but not out near the street or anything indicating that they were free for taking, and the plants have been there for months, since that’s where I keep them. So it seems she could try to claim the defense: *“(3) The actor reasonably believed that the owner of the premises, or other person empowered to license access thereto, would have licensed him or her to enter or remain;”* but there was no indication that the plants were up for the taking. I also have a photo of me watering the plants showing they are my and are on my property. So what are my options? Confront them and if they lie then tell them I have a video? Go straight to the police with the evidence? I know they are “just plants”, but they are mine, they are important to me, and I feel very violated by her taking them. | hh0yahr | hh0o4bv | 1,634,502,018 | 1,634,497,770 | 750 | 96 | You said they were by the trash cans. Go to her and suggest that perhaps she was confused but they were not trash so please return them. That gives her a chance to fix it. And she will know you know and that you have cameras. If she doesn't. File a report. | Plants, like pets, are living things that bring joy into your life. They stole more than pots, dirt, and "just plants". Personally, I would feel rather violated and enraged if someone did to me what was done to you. Do not contact them. Contact the police and turn over the video evidence. You may want to see about getting them cited for trespass and have them served notice they are not ever welcome onto your property. Let the authorities take it from there. | 1 | 4,248 | 7.8125 |
qa534a | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My neighbor trespassed and stole two plants while I was out of town Like the title says, my across-the-street neighbor walked onto my property when I wasn’t home and stole plants sitting next to my house on the side of my driveway. I have her on camera walking onto my property multiple times and ultimately picking up and taking two large potted plants. I am in the state of Washington, and my understanding is that this is, at a minimum, criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.080) but she also stole things which I can’t find an applicable law for since all the burglary laws (RCW 9A.52.020 - RCW 9A.52.030) seem to apply to entering a dwelling. I don’t believe any of the defenses to criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.090) could apply since I’ve only spoken to her one time when I moved in a few months ago and have never given her permission to walk onto my property. The plants were near my trash cans but not out near the street or anything indicating that they were free for taking, and the plants have been there for months, since that’s where I keep them. So it seems she could try to claim the defense: *“(3) The actor reasonably believed that the owner of the premises, or other person empowered to license access thereto, would have licensed him or her to enter or remain;”* but there was no indication that the plants were up for the taking. I also have a photo of me watering the plants showing they are my and are on my property. So what are my options? Confront them and if they lie then tell them I have a video? Go straight to the police with the evidence? I know they are “just plants”, but they are mine, they are important to me, and I feel very violated by her taking them. | hh0uupm | hh0yahr | 1,634,500,555 | 1,634,502,018 | 28 | 750 | I would file a police report, then I would get a lawyer to send them a documented trespass notice and then sue them in small claims for the cost of the plants (if 1. you can't get them back from the police, that is, I wouldn't sue them if I could recover the plants and 2. It would be worth the cost (obviously it might just be worth it to replace the plants cost wise)). I wouldn't confront them, myself. | You said they were by the trash cans. Go to her and suggest that perhaps she was confused but they were not trash so please return them. That gives her a chance to fix it. And she will know you know and that you have cameras. If she doesn't. File a report. | 0 | 1,463 | 26.785714 |
qa534a | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My neighbor trespassed and stole two plants while I was out of town Like the title says, my across-the-street neighbor walked onto my property when I wasn’t home and stole plants sitting next to my house on the side of my driveway. I have her on camera walking onto my property multiple times and ultimately picking up and taking two large potted plants. I am in the state of Washington, and my understanding is that this is, at a minimum, criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.080) but she also stole things which I can’t find an applicable law for since all the burglary laws (RCW 9A.52.020 - RCW 9A.52.030) seem to apply to entering a dwelling. I don’t believe any of the defenses to criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.090) could apply since I’ve only spoken to her one time when I moved in a few months ago and have never given her permission to walk onto my property. The plants were near my trash cans but not out near the street or anything indicating that they were free for taking, and the plants have been there for months, since that’s where I keep them. So it seems she could try to claim the defense: *“(3) The actor reasonably believed that the owner of the premises, or other person empowered to license access thereto, would have licensed him or her to enter or remain;”* but there was no indication that the plants were up for the taking. I also have a photo of me watering the plants showing they are my and are on my property. So what are my options? Confront them and if they lie then tell them I have a video? Go straight to the police with the evidence? I know they are “just plants”, but they are mine, they are important to me, and I feel very violated by her taking them. | hh0o4bv | hh0q26e | 1,634,497,770 | 1,634,498,573 | 96 | 249 | Plants, like pets, are living things that bring joy into your life. They stole more than pots, dirt, and "just plants". Personally, I would feel rather violated and enraged if someone did to me what was done to you. Do not contact them. Contact the police and turn over the video evidence. You may want to see about getting them cited for trespass and have them served notice they are not ever welcome onto your property. Let the authorities take it from there. | This is theft. Tell neighbor to give them back or you will escalate to the police. It may be a small matter but I would consider it worthwhile to draw a line since they have the boldness to just walk over and take others' property. | 0 | 803 | 2.59375 |
qa534a | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My neighbor trespassed and stole two plants while I was out of town Like the title says, my across-the-street neighbor walked onto my property when I wasn’t home and stole plants sitting next to my house on the side of my driveway. I have her on camera walking onto my property multiple times and ultimately picking up and taking two large potted plants. I am in the state of Washington, and my understanding is that this is, at a minimum, criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.080) but she also stole things which I can’t find an applicable law for since all the burglary laws (RCW 9A.52.020 - RCW 9A.52.030) seem to apply to entering a dwelling. I don’t believe any of the defenses to criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.090) could apply since I’ve only spoken to her one time when I moved in a few months ago and have never given her permission to walk onto my property. The plants were near my trash cans but not out near the street or anything indicating that they were free for taking, and the plants have been there for months, since that’s where I keep them. So it seems she could try to claim the defense: *“(3) The actor reasonably believed that the owner of the premises, or other person empowered to license access thereto, would have licensed him or her to enter or remain;”* but there was no indication that the plants were up for the taking. I also have a photo of me watering the plants showing they are my and are on my property. So what are my options? Confront them and if they lie then tell them I have a video? Go straight to the police with the evidence? I know they are “just plants”, but they are mine, they are important to me, and I feel very violated by her taking them. | hh31pah | hh0uupm | 1,634,542,952 | 1,634,500,555 | 77 | 28 | I'd start by calling or talking to your neighbor. "I just got home from a trip, and noticed the plants by my garbage cans/on my driveway/near my garage (whatever best describes them) were missing. I know I keep them by my garbage cans/on my driveway/near my garage, but I wasn't leaving them out for the taking. I was looking to get those back." If neighbor pushes back, inform them you saw them take them when you checked your security cameras. If she has thrown them out, damaged them beyond recovery, or simply refuses to return them, just go home and call the police to report the theft. You certainly can call the police to start, but unless you have reason to believe your neighbor will be hostile towards you, starting with a simple request would be best. For all you know, your neighbor noticed the plants hadn't been tended to while you were gone, and only just noticed them, assuming they were garbage, and thought they were saving some plants. But if personal experience with this person says they're unstable or something, just call the police. They can do the talking for you if need be. | I would file a police report, then I would get a lawyer to send them a documented trespass notice and then sue them in small claims for the cost of the plants (if 1. you can't get them back from the police, that is, I wouldn't sue them if I could recover the plants and 2. It would be worth the cost (obviously it might just be worth it to replace the plants cost wise)). I wouldn't confront them, myself. | 1 | 42,397 | 2.75 |
qa534a | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My neighbor trespassed and stole two plants while I was out of town Like the title says, my across-the-street neighbor walked onto my property when I wasn’t home and stole plants sitting next to my house on the side of my driveway. I have her on camera walking onto my property multiple times and ultimately picking up and taking two large potted plants. I am in the state of Washington, and my understanding is that this is, at a minimum, criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.080) but she also stole things which I can’t find an applicable law for since all the burglary laws (RCW 9A.52.020 - RCW 9A.52.030) seem to apply to entering a dwelling. I don’t believe any of the defenses to criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.090) could apply since I’ve only spoken to her one time when I moved in a few months ago and have never given her permission to walk onto my property. The plants were near my trash cans but not out near the street or anything indicating that they were free for taking, and the plants have been there for months, since that’s where I keep them. So it seems she could try to claim the defense: *“(3) The actor reasonably believed that the owner of the premises, or other person empowered to license access thereto, would have licensed him or her to enter or remain;”* but there was no indication that the plants were up for the taking. I also have a photo of me watering the plants showing they are my and are on my property. So what are my options? Confront them and if they lie then tell them I have a video? Go straight to the police with the evidence? I know they are “just plants”, but they are mine, they are important to me, and I feel very violated by her taking them. | hh31pah | hh1ky3e | 1,634,542,952 | 1,634,512,029 | 77 | 29 | I'd start by calling or talking to your neighbor. "I just got home from a trip, and noticed the plants by my garbage cans/on my driveway/near my garage (whatever best describes them) were missing. I know I keep them by my garbage cans/on my driveway/near my garage, but I wasn't leaving them out for the taking. I was looking to get those back." If neighbor pushes back, inform them you saw them take them when you checked your security cameras. If she has thrown them out, damaged them beyond recovery, or simply refuses to return them, just go home and call the police to report the theft. You certainly can call the police to start, but unless you have reason to believe your neighbor will be hostile towards you, starting with a simple request would be best. For all you know, your neighbor noticed the plants hadn't been tended to while you were gone, and only just noticed them, assuming they were garbage, and thought they were saving some plants. But if personal experience with this person says they're unstable or something, just call the police. They can do the talking for you if need be. | You go to the police. This isn’t some tv sitcom or a viral social media video in the making. If you want a resolution and have evidence of a crime being committed, you go to the police. | 1 | 30,923 | 2.655172 |
qa534a | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My neighbor trespassed and stole two plants while I was out of town Like the title says, my across-the-street neighbor walked onto my property when I wasn’t home and stole plants sitting next to my house on the side of my driveway. I have her on camera walking onto my property multiple times and ultimately picking up and taking two large potted plants. I am in the state of Washington, and my understanding is that this is, at a minimum, criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.080) but she also stole things which I can’t find an applicable law for since all the burglary laws (RCW 9A.52.020 - RCW 9A.52.030) seem to apply to entering a dwelling. I don’t believe any of the defenses to criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.090) could apply since I’ve only spoken to her one time when I moved in a few months ago and have never given her permission to walk onto my property. The plants were near my trash cans but not out near the street or anything indicating that they were free for taking, and the plants have been there for months, since that’s where I keep them. So it seems she could try to claim the defense: *“(3) The actor reasonably believed that the owner of the premises, or other person empowered to license access thereto, would have licensed him or her to enter or remain;”* but there was no indication that the plants were up for the taking. I also have a photo of me watering the plants showing they are my and are on my property. So what are my options? Confront them and if they lie then tell them I have a video? Go straight to the police with the evidence? I know they are “just plants”, but they are mine, they are important to me, and I feel very violated by her taking them. | hh1cpn8 | hh31pah | 1,634,508,198 | 1,634,542,952 | 24 | 77 | In every state in the US, you do NOT need to know which laws someone broke. All you have to do is call the police/sheriff/local law enforcement. Then report what happened and say you want to press charges. If it’s a simple thing, cops will write up the charges. If it’s more complicated, cops will write a report and forward to the prosecutor. The prosecutor is an expert in local criminal law and will decide what to charge someone with based on the facts and evidence. Don’t try to be Matlock. The police probably know criminal law better than you, and even they don’t always know all the elements of a crime or what the best charges are. | I'd start by calling or talking to your neighbor. "I just got home from a trip, and noticed the plants by my garbage cans/on my driveway/near my garage (whatever best describes them) were missing. I know I keep them by my garbage cans/on my driveway/near my garage, but I wasn't leaving them out for the taking. I was looking to get those back." If neighbor pushes back, inform them you saw them take them when you checked your security cameras. If she has thrown them out, damaged them beyond recovery, or simply refuses to return them, just go home and call the police to report the theft. You certainly can call the police to start, but unless you have reason to believe your neighbor will be hostile towards you, starting with a simple request would be best. For all you know, your neighbor noticed the plants hadn't been tended to while you were gone, and only just noticed them, assuming they were garbage, and thought they were saving some plants. But if personal experience with this person says they're unstable or something, just call the police. They can do the talking for you if need be. | 0 | 34,754 | 3.208333 |
qa534a | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My neighbor trespassed and stole two plants while I was out of town Like the title says, my across-the-street neighbor walked onto my property when I wasn’t home and stole plants sitting next to my house on the side of my driveway. I have her on camera walking onto my property multiple times and ultimately picking up and taking two large potted plants. I am in the state of Washington, and my understanding is that this is, at a minimum, criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.080) but she also stole things which I can’t find an applicable law for since all the burglary laws (RCW 9A.52.020 - RCW 9A.52.030) seem to apply to entering a dwelling. I don’t believe any of the defenses to criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.090) could apply since I’ve only spoken to her one time when I moved in a few months ago and have never given her permission to walk onto my property. The plants were near my trash cans but not out near the street or anything indicating that they were free for taking, and the plants have been there for months, since that’s where I keep them. So it seems she could try to claim the defense: *“(3) The actor reasonably believed that the owner of the premises, or other person empowered to license access thereto, would have licensed him or her to enter or remain;”* but there was no indication that the plants were up for the taking. I also have a photo of me watering the plants showing they are my and are on my property. So what are my options? Confront them and if they lie then tell them I have a video? Go straight to the police with the evidence? I know they are “just plants”, but they are mine, they are important to me, and I feel very violated by her taking them. | hh31pah | hh31ewa | 1,634,542,952 | 1,634,542,694 | 77 | 3 | I'd start by calling or talking to your neighbor. "I just got home from a trip, and noticed the plants by my garbage cans/on my driveway/near my garage (whatever best describes them) were missing. I know I keep them by my garbage cans/on my driveway/near my garage, but I wasn't leaving them out for the taking. I was looking to get those back." If neighbor pushes back, inform them you saw them take them when you checked your security cameras. If she has thrown them out, damaged them beyond recovery, or simply refuses to return them, just go home and call the police to report the theft. You certainly can call the police to start, but unless you have reason to believe your neighbor will be hostile towards you, starting with a simple request would be best. For all you know, your neighbor noticed the plants hadn't been tended to while you were gone, and only just noticed them, assuming they were garbage, and thought they were saving some plants. But if personal experience with this person says they're unstable or something, just call the police. They can do the talking for you if need be. | File a report with the police, show them the video. It would be helpful if you could provide the value (pot, soil, plants).Don't engage with your neighbor. This will only exacerbate the situation. You aren't turning anyone in. You had something stolen, you reported it. | 1 | 258 | 25.666667 |
qa534a | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My neighbor trespassed and stole two plants while I was out of town Like the title says, my across-the-street neighbor walked onto my property when I wasn’t home and stole plants sitting next to my house on the side of my driveway. I have her on camera walking onto my property multiple times and ultimately picking up and taking two large potted plants. I am in the state of Washington, and my understanding is that this is, at a minimum, criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.080) but she also stole things which I can’t find an applicable law for since all the burglary laws (RCW 9A.52.020 - RCW 9A.52.030) seem to apply to entering a dwelling. I don’t believe any of the defenses to criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.090) could apply since I’ve only spoken to her one time when I moved in a few months ago and have never given her permission to walk onto my property. The plants were near my trash cans but not out near the street or anything indicating that they were free for taking, and the plants have been there for months, since that’s where I keep them. So it seems she could try to claim the defense: *“(3) The actor reasonably believed that the owner of the premises, or other person empowered to license access thereto, would have licensed him or her to enter or remain;”* but there was no indication that the plants were up for the taking. I also have a photo of me watering the plants showing they are my and are on my property. So what are my options? Confront them and if they lie then tell them I have a video? Go straight to the police with the evidence? I know they are “just plants”, but they are mine, they are important to me, and I feel very violated by her taking them. | hh0uupm | hh1ky3e | 1,634,500,555 | 1,634,512,029 | 28 | 29 | I would file a police report, then I would get a lawyer to send them a documented trespass notice and then sue them in small claims for the cost of the plants (if 1. you can't get them back from the police, that is, I wouldn't sue them if I could recover the plants and 2. It would be worth the cost (obviously it might just be worth it to replace the plants cost wise)). I wouldn't confront them, myself. | You go to the police. This isn’t some tv sitcom or a viral social media video in the making. If you want a resolution and have evidence of a crime being committed, you go to the police. | 0 | 11,474 | 1.035714 |
qa534a | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My neighbor trespassed and stole two plants while I was out of town Like the title says, my across-the-street neighbor walked onto my property when I wasn’t home and stole plants sitting next to my house on the side of my driveway. I have her on camera walking onto my property multiple times and ultimately picking up and taking two large potted plants. I am in the state of Washington, and my understanding is that this is, at a minimum, criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.080) but she also stole things which I can’t find an applicable law for since all the burglary laws (RCW 9A.52.020 - RCW 9A.52.030) seem to apply to entering a dwelling. I don’t believe any of the defenses to criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.090) could apply since I’ve only spoken to her one time when I moved in a few months ago and have never given her permission to walk onto my property. The plants were near my trash cans but not out near the street or anything indicating that they were free for taking, and the plants have been there for months, since that’s where I keep them. So it seems she could try to claim the defense: *“(3) The actor reasonably believed that the owner of the premises, or other person empowered to license access thereto, would have licensed him or her to enter or remain;”* but there was no indication that the plants were up for the taking. I also have a photo of me watering the plants showing they are my and are on my property. So what are my options? Confront them and if they lie then tell them I have a video? Go straight to the police with the evidence? I know they are “just plants”, but they are mine, they are important to me, and I feel very violated by her taking them. | hh1cpn8 | hh1ky3e | 1,634,508,198 | 1,634,512,029 | 24 | 29 | In every state in the US, you do NOT need to know which laws someone broke. All you have to do is call the police/sheriff/local law enforcement. Then report what happened and say you want to press charges. If it’s a simple thing, cops will write up the charges. If it’s more complicated, cops will write a report and forward to the prosecutor. The prosecutor is an expert in local criminal law and will decide what to charge someone with based on the facts and evidence. Don’t try to be Matlock. The police probably know criminal law better than you, and even they don’t always know all the elements of a crime or what the best charges are. | You go to the police. This isn’t some tv sitcom or a viral social media video in the making. If you want a resolution and have evidence of a crime being committed, you go to the police. | 0 | 3,831 | 1.208333 |
qa534a | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My neighbor trespassed and stole two plants while I was out of town Like the title says, my across-the-street neighbor walked onto my property when I wasn’t home and stole plants sitting next to my house on the side of my driveway. I have her on camera walking onto my property multiple times and ultimately picking up and taking two large potted plants. I am in the state of Washington, and my understanding is that this is, at a minimum, criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.080) but she also stole things which I can’t find an applicable law for since all the burglary laws (RCW 9A.52.020 - RCW 9A.52.030) seem to apply to entering a dwelling. I don’t believe any of the defenses to criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.090) could apply since I’ve only spoken to her one time when I moved in a few months ago and have never given her permission to walk onto my property. The plants were near my trash cans but not out near the street or anything indicating that they were free for taking, and the plants have been there for months, since that’s where I keep them. So it seems she could try to claim the defense: *“(3) The actor reasonably believed that the owner of the premises, or other person empowered to license access thereto, would have licensed him or her to enter or remain;”* but there was no indication that the plants were up for the taking. I also have a photo of me watering the plants showing they are my and are on my property. So what are my options? Confront them and if they lie then tell them I have a video? Go straight to the police with the evidence? I know they are “just plants”, but they are mine, they are important to me, and I feel very violated by her taking them. | hh1cpn8 | hh325ut | 1,634,508,198 | 1,634,543,365 | 24 | 25 | In every state in the US, you do NOT need to know which laws someone broke. All you have to do is call the police/sheriff/local law enforcement. Then report what happened and say you want to press charges. If it’s a simple thing, cops will write up the charges. If it’s more complicated, cops will write a report and forward to the prosecutor. The prosecutor is an expert in local criminal law and will decide what to charge someone with based on the facts and evidence. Don’t try to be Matlock. The police probably know criminal law better than you, and even they don’t always know all the elements of a crime or what the best charges are. | Why don't you just ask your neighbours if you can have your plants back and if they say no, then take legal action. | 0 | 35,167 | 1.041667 |
qa534a | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My neighbor trespassed and stole two plants while I was out of town Like the title says, my across-the-street neighbor walked onto my property when I wasn’t home and stole plants sitting next to my house on the side of my driveway. I have her on camera walking onto my property multiple times and ultimately picking up and taking two large potted plants. I am in the state of Washington, and my understanding is that this is, at a minimum, criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.080) but she also stole things which I can’t find an applicable law for since all the burglary laws (RCW 9A.52.020 - RCW 9A.52.030) seem to apply to entering a dwelling. I don’t believe any of the defenses to criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.090) could apply since I’ve only spoken to her one time when I moved in a few months ago and have never given her permission to walk onto my property. The plants were near my trash cans but not out near the street or anything indicating that they were free for taking, and the plants have been there for months, since that’s where I keep them. So it seems she could try to claim the defense: *“(3) The actor reasonably believed that the owner of the premises, or other person empowered to license access thereto, would have licensed him or her to enter or remain;”* but there was no indication that the plants were up for the taking. I also have a photo of me watering the plants showing they are my and are on my property. So what are my options? Confront them and if they lie then tell them I have a video? Go straight to the police with the evidence? I know they are “just plants”, but they are mine, they are important to me, and I feel very violated by her taking them. | hh325ut | hh31ewa | 1,634,543,365 | 1,634,542,694 | 25 | 3 | Why don't you just ask your neighbours if you can have your plants back and if they say no, then take legal action. | File a report with the police, show them the video. It would be helpful if you could provide the value (pot, soil, plants).Don't engage with your neighbor. This will only exacerbate the situation. You aren't turning anyone in. You had something stolen, you reported it. | 1 | 671 | 8.333333 |
qa534a | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My neighbor trespassed and stole two plants while I was out of town Like the title says, my across-the-street neighbor walked onto my property when I wasn’t home and stole plants sitting next to my house on the side of my driveway. I have her on camera walking onto my property multiple times and ultimately picking up and taking two large potted plants. I am in the state of Washington, and my understanding is that this is, at a minimum, criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.080) but she also stole things which I can’t find an applicable law for since all the burglary laws (RCW 9A.52.020 - RCW 9A.52.030) seem to apply to entering a dwelling. I don’t believe any of the defenses to criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.090) could apply since I’ve only spoken to her one time when I moved in a few months ago and have never given her permission to walk onto my property. The plants were near my trash cans but not out near the street or anything indicating that they were free for taking, and the plants have been there for months, since that’s where I keep them. So it seems she could try to claim the defense: *“(3) The actor reasonably believed that the owner of the premises, or other person empowered to license access thereto, would have licensed him or her to enter or remain;”* but there was no indication that the plants were up for the taking. I also have a photo of me watering the plants showing they are my and are on my property. So what are my options? Confront them and if they lie then tell them I have a video? Go straight to the police with the evidence? I know they are “just plants”, but they are mine, they are important to me, and I feel very violated by her taking them. | hh3unkj | hh3mm5u | 1,634,564,169 | 1,634,559,821 | 5 | 4 | Go to the police, you don't need to worry about anything after that. | When you are a victim of a crime, my advice is to make a police report. Best of luck! | 1 | 4,348 | 1.25 |
qa534a | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My neighbor trespassed and stole two plants while I was out of town Like the title says, my across-the-street neighbor walked onto my property when I wasn’t home and stole plants sitting next to my house on the side of my driveway. I have her on camera walking onto my property multiple times and ultimately picking up and taking two large potted plants. I am in the state of Washington, and my understanding is that this is, at a minimum, criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.080) but she also stole things which I can’t find an applicable law for since all the burglary laws (RCW 9A.52.020 - RCW 9A.52.030) seem to apply to entering a dwelling. I don’t believe any of the defenses to criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.090) could apply since I’ve only spoken to her one time when I moved in a few months ago and have never given her permission to walk onto my property. The plants were near my trash cans but not out near the street or anything indicating that they were free for taking, and the plants have been there for months, since that’s where I keep them. So it seems she could try to claim the defense: *“(3) The actor reasonably believed that the owner of the premises, or other person empowered to license access thereto, would have licensed him or her to enter or remain;”* but there was no indication that the plants were up for the taking. I also have a photo of me watering the plants showing they are my and are on my property. So what are my options? Confront them and if they lie then tell them I have a video? Go straight to the police with the evidence? I know they are “just plants”, but they are mine, they are important to me, and I feel very violated by her taking them. | hh3mm5u | hh31ewa | 1,634,559,821 | 1,634,542,694 | 4 | 3 | When you are a victim of a crime, my advice is to make a police report. Best of luck! | File a report with the police, show them the video. It would be helpful if you could provide the value (pot, soil, plants).Don't engage with your neighbor. This will only exacerbate the situation. You aren't turning anyone in. You had something stolen, you reported it. | 1 | 17,127 | 1.333333 |
qa534a | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My neighbor trespassed and stole two plants while I was out of town Like the title says, my across-the-street neighbor walked onto my property when I wasn’t home and stole plants sitting next to my house on the side of my driveway. I have her on camera walking onto my property multiple times and ultimately picking up and taking two large potted plants. I am in the state of Washington, and my understanding is that this is, at a minimum, criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.080) but she also stole things which I can’t find an applicable law for since all the burglary laws (RCW 9A.52.020 - RCW 9A.52.030) seem to apply to entering a dwelling. I don’t believe any of the defenses to criminal trespassing (RCW 9A.52.090) could apply since I’ve only spoken to her one time when I moved in a few months ago and have never given her permission to walk onto my property. The plants were near my trash cans but not out near the street or anything indicating that they were free for taking, and the plants have been there for months, since that’s where I keep them. So it seems she could try to claim the defense: *“(3) The actor reasonably believed that the owner of the premises, or other person empowered to license access thereto, would have licensed him or her to enter or remain;”* but there was no indication that the plants were up for the taking. I also have a photo of me watering the plants showing they are my and are on my property. So what are my options? Confront them and if they lie then tell them I have a video? Go straight to the police with the evidence? I know they are “just plants”, but they are mine, they are important to me, and I feel very violated by her taking them. | hh3unkj | hh31ewa | 1,634,564,169 | 1,634,542,694 | 5 | 3 | Go to the police, you don't need to worry about anything after that. | File a report with the police, show them the video. It would be helpful if you could provide the value (pot, soil, plants).Don't engage with your neighbor. This will only exacerbate the situation. You aren't turning anyone in. You had something stolen, you reported it. | 1 | 21,475 | 1.666667 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibpfoza | ibp97ux | 1,654,758,545 | 1,654,753,367 | 453 | 96 | If the school refuses to investigate and wants to save face, ask them to cover the cost of the headphones. Otherwise, small claims or police report. | Please report the girl to the police. If she’ll be applying to colleges soon, she also have a brain and should know better than to steal and continuously lie about it. She even admitted to having the airpods through text messages and still won’t give it back, the dumbest thing anyone could do. | 1 | 5,178 | 4.71875 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibp7kx0 | ibpfoza | 1,654,752,175 | 1,654,758,545 | 69 | 453 | Go through the police, not the school. You should pursue charges, she’s just going to keep stealing from people. | If the school refuses to investigate and wants to save face, ask them to cover the cost of the headphones. Otherwise, small claims or police report. | 0 | 6,370 | 6.565217 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibpdoqp | ibpfoza | 1,654,756,865 | 1,654,758,545 | 36 | 453 | If the school isn't going to help, take this matter to the police. You're not accusing some random person of color here. You have solid evidence to back up your case, and this girl doesn't have a legal leg to stand on if faced with the facts in a court of law. | If the school refuses to investigate and wants to save face, ask them to cover the cost of the headphones. Otherwise, small claims or police report. | 0 | 1,680 | 12.583333 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibpfoza | ibp6nss | 1,654,758,545 | 1,654,751,527 | 453 | 24 | If the school refuses to investigate and wants to save face, ask them to cover the cost of the headphones. Otherwise, small claims or police report. | It sounds like your daughter was the victim of theft. File a police report and include any evidence from the "Find my Device" feature to show location. Edit: Victim of theft twice. | 1 | 7,018 | 18.875 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibpfoza | ibperfs | 1,654,758,545 | 1,654,757,755 | 453 | 20 | If the school refuses to investigate and wants to save face, ask them to cover the cost of the headphones. Otherwise, small claims or police report. | Either forget it or go to small claims you can't force school to do anything. You would win in court. | 1 | 790 | 22.65 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibpgohl | ibp97ux | 1,654,759,419 | 1,654,753,367 | 271 | 96 | With all the evidence that you and your daughter have showing that her headphones are at this girl's house, as well as showing the new pair that she had bought also at this girl's house without your daughter ever going there nor giving consent for this girl to use, borrow or take those for headphones, it establishes a pattern of behavior for this young girl. It completely breaks her initial story of stating that she grabbed your daughter's initial airpods by accident. And she definitely didn't forget to bring them back to your daughter she completely meant to keep them regardless of what was being shown. And now she's also showing that if she sees something expensive she's just going to take it, probably knowing that your daughter already had a pair of airpod pros now she went through her stuff and took the others. I would definitely say that you have a case for small claims court at this point. Regardless of what her parents are stating and everything else that is being done, you have enough evidence to establish a pattern of behavior and to show that she's basically a thief. | Please report the girl to the police. If she’ll be applying to colleges soon, she also have a brain and should know better than to steal and continuously lie about it. She even admitted to having the airpods through text messages and still won’t give it back, the dumbest thing anyone could do. | 1 | 6,052 | 2.822917 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibp7kx0 | ibpgohl | 1,654,752,175 | 1,654,759,419 | 69 | 271 | Go through the police, not the school. You should pursue charges, she’s just going to keep stealing from people. | With all the evidence that you and your daughter have showing that her headphones are at this girl's house, as well as showing the new pair that she had bought also at this girl's house without your daughter ever going there nor giving consent for this girl to use, borrow or take those for headphones, it establishes a pattern of behavior for this young girl. It completely breaks her initial story of stating that she grabbed your daughter's initial airpods by accident. And she definitely didn't forget to bring them back to your daughter she completely meant to keep them regardless of what was being shown. And now she's also showing that if she sees something expensive she's just going to take it, probably knowing that your daughter already had a pair of airpod pros now she went through her stuff and took the others. I would definitely say that you have a case for small claims court at this point. Regardless of what her parents are stating and everything else that is being done, you have enough evidence to establish a pattern of behavior and to show that she's basically a thief. | 0 | 7,244 | 3.927536 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibpdoqp | ibpgohl | 1,654,756,865 | 1,654,759,419 | 36 | 271 | If the school isn't going to help, take this matter to the police. You're not accusing some random person of color here. You have solid evidence to back up your case, and this girl doesn't have a legal leg to stand on if faced with the facts in a court of law. | With all the evidence that you and your daughter have showing that her headphones are at this girl's house, as well as showing the new pair that she had bought also at this girl's house without your daughter ever going there nor giving consent for this girl to use, borrow or take those for headphones, it establishes a pattern of behavior for this young girl. It completely breaks her initial story of stating that she grabbed your daughter's initial airpods by accident. And she definitely didn't forget to bring them back to your daughter she completely meant to keep them regardless of what was being shown. And now she's also showing that if she sees something expensive she's just going to take it, probably knowing that your daughter already had a pair of airpod pros now she went through her stuff and took the others. I would definitely say that you have a case for small claims court at this point. Regardless of what her parents are stating and everything else that is being done, you have enough evidence to establish a pattern of behavior and to show that she's basically a thief. | 0 | 2,554 | 7.527778 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibpgohl | ibp6nss | 1,654,759,419 | 1,654,751,527 | 271 | 24 | With all the evidence that you and your daughter have showing that her headphones are at this girl's house, as well as showing the new pair that she had bought also at this girl's house without your daughter ever going there nor giving consent for this girl to use, borrow or take those for headphones, it establishes a pattern of behavior for this young girl. It completely breaks her initial story of stating that she grabbed your daughter's initial airpods by accident. And she definitely didn't forget to bring them back to your daughter she completely meant to keep them regardless of what was being shown. And now she's also showing that if she sees something expensive she's just going to take it, probably knowing that your daughter already had a pair of airpod pros now she went through her stuff and took the others. I would definitely say that you have a case for small claims court at this point. Regardless of what her parents are stating and everything else that is being done, you have enough evidence to establish a pattern of behavior and to show that she's basically a thief. | It sounds like your daughter was the victim of theft. File a police report and include any evidence from the "Find my Device" feature to show location. Edit: Victim of theft twice. | 1 | 7,892 | 11.291667 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibpgohl | ibperfs | 1,654,759,419 | 1,654,757,755 | 271 | 20 | With all the evidence that you and your daughter have showing that her headphones are at this girl's house, as well as showing the new pair that she had bought also at this girl's house without your daughter ever going there nor giving consent for this girl to use, borrow or take those for headphones, it establishes a pattern of behavior for this young girl. It completely breaks her initial story of stating that she grabbed your daughter's initial airpods by accident. And she definitely didn't forget to bring them back to your daughter she completely meant to keep them regardless of what was being shown. And now she's also showing that if she sees something expensive she's just going to take it, probably knowing that your daughter already had a pair of airpod pros now she went through her stuff and took the others. I would definitely say that you have a case for small claims court at this point. Regardless of what her parents are stating and everything else that is being done, you have enough evidence to establish a pattern of behavior and to show that she's basically a thief. | Either forget it or go to small claims you can't force school to do anything. You would win in court. | 1 | 1,664 | 13.55 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibq4jcs | ibp97ux | 1,654,778,566 | 1,654,753,367 | 140 | 96 | Stop trying to be nice, your daughter already gave this person every opportunity to resolve this without any 3rd parties involved. Now is the time to file a police report and/or small claims court. | Please report the girl to the police. If she’ll be applying to colleges soon, she also have a brain and should know better than to steal and continuously lie about it. She even admitted to having the airpods through text messages and still won’t give it back, the dumbest thing anyone could do. | 1 | 25,199 | 1.458333 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibq4jcs | ibplrip | 1,654,778,566 | 1,654,764,186 | 140 | 74 | Stop trying to be nice, your daughter already gave this person every opportunity to resolve this without any 3rd parties involved. Now is the time to file a police report and/or small claims court. | File a police report. You say you don’t want to cause trouble for a minor - you’re doing exactly what the school is doing. Coddling her. She doesn’t get to weaponise her race to enable her theft. That’s not how life works. She ruined her own prospects by stealing. If everyone in her life continually lets her get away with it, her behaviour will escalate to higher levels of criminality. I guarantee she’s done this before. Tell the school you’re filing a police report and contacting a lawyer to deal with both the girl AND the school. Their tune will change instantly, because they know they’re liable, and they’ll be in even more trouble for what they’re doing to you than what the thief’s parents are alleging. | 1 | 14,380 | 1.891892 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibp7kx0 | ibq4jcs | 1,654,752,175 | 1,654,778,566 | 69 | 140 | Go through the police, not the school. You should pursue charges, she’s just going to keep stealing from people. | Stop trying to be nice, your daughter already gave this person every opportunity to resolve this without any 3rd parties involved. Now is the time to file a police report and/or small claims court. | 0 | 26,391 | 2.028986 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibphltq | ibq4jcs | 1,654,760,255 | 1,654,778,566 | 47 | 140 | File a police report, and personally I'm the kind of petty who, if the school continues to do nothing and she gets away with it scot free, would wait to see which colleges she was accepted to and then I would anonymously share this information with every single one of them. But that's me. | Stop trying to be nice, your daughter already gave this person every opportunity to resolve this without any 3rd parties involved. Now is the time to file a police report and/or small claims court. | 0 | 18,311 | 2.978723 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibpdoqp | ibq4jcs | 1,654,756,865 | 1,654,778,566 | 36 | 140 | If the school isn't going to help, take this matter to the police. You're not accusing some random person of color here. You have solid evidence to back up your case, and this girl doesn't have a legal leg to stand on if faced with the facts in a court of law. | Stop trying to be nice, your daughter already gave this person every opportunity to resolve this without any 3rd parties involved. Now is the time to file a police report and/or small claims court. | 0 | 21,701 | 3.888889 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibq4jcs | ibph9y1 | 1,654,778,566 | 1,654,759,958 | 140 | 34 | Stop trying to be nice, your daughter already gave this person every opportunity to resolve this without any 3rd parties involved. Now is the time to file a police report and/or small claims court. | If the school is not willing to pursue disciplinary action for what at this point almost certainly merits the legal definition of grand theft, they should agree to compensate your family for the financial loss. At this point, they are effectively acting as an accomplice to the crime, which would NOT go down well for the school district if you pursued this legally. | 1 | 18,608 | 4.117647 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibpy17r | ibq4jcs | 1,654,774,532 | 1,654,778,566 | 32 | 140 | OP by not doing anything you are empowering this girl to steak whatever she wants. Any one in a position of power that abuses said power deserves everything that comes to her.What happens when it happens again and this time your kid doesn't say it do anything OR the girl uses her power to punish your daughter for it? As her having a position of power and being "trusted" by the faculty she could lie and say your daughter is attacking her/ discriminating against her. without the reports of your trying to stop it they are likely to believe her.Do you really want that for your daughter? Also at 17 she's old enough to be charged as an adult. You are in a position to stop this before it escalates to her doing worse. Also using that excuse of discrimination shows that they'll do whatever it takes to sweep it under the rug. Be the person to stop this now. At least do it for your daughter and show her you have her back and will be willing to do what it takes to have her back | Stop trying to be nice, your daughter already gave this person every opportunity to resolve this without any 3rd parties involved. Now is the time to file a police report and/or small claims court. | 0 | 4,034 | 4.375 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibp6nss | ibq4jcs | 1,654,751,527 | 1,654,778,566 | 24 | 140 | It sounds like your daughter was the victim of theft. File a police report and include any evidence from the "Find my Device" feature to show location. Edit: Victim of theft twice. | Stop trying to be nice, your daughter already gave this person every opportunity to resolve this without any 3rd parties involved. Now is the time to file a police report and/or small claims court. | 0 | 27,039 | 5.833333 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibq4jcs | ibperfs | 1,654,778,566 | 1,654,757,755 | 140 | 20 | Stop trying to be nice, your daughter already gave this person every opportunity to resolve this without any 3rd parties involved. Now is the time to file a police report and/or small claims court. | Either forget it or go to small claims you can't force school to do anything. You would win in court. | 1 | 20,811 | 7 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibp7kx0 | ibp97ux | 1,654,752,175 | 1,654,753,367 | 69 | 96 | Go through the police, not the school. You should pursue charges, she’s just going to keep stealing from people. | Please report the girl to the police. If she’ll be applying to colleges soon, she also have a brain and should know better than to steal and continuously lie about it. She even admitted to having the airpods through text messages and still won’t give it back, the dumbest thing anyone could do. | 0 | 1,192 | 1.391304 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibp6nss | ibp97ux | 1,654,751,527 | 1,654,753,367 | 24 | 96 | It sounds like your daughter was the victim of theft. File a police report and include any evidence from the "Find my Device" feature to show location. Edit: Victim of theft twice. | Please report the girl to the police. If she’ll be applying to colleges soon, she also have a brain and should know better than to steal and continuously lie about it. She even admitted to having the airpods through text messages and still won’t give it back, the dumbest thing anyone could do. | 0 | 1,840 | 4 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibp7kx0 | ibplrip | 1,654,752,175 | 1,654,764,186 | 69 | 74 | Go through the police, not the school. You should pursue charges, she’s just going to keep stealing from people. | File a police report. You say you don’t want to cause trouble for a minor - you’re doing exactly what the school is doing. Coddling her. She doesn’t get to weaponise her race to enable her theft. That’s not how life works. She ruined her own prospects by stealing. If everyone in her life continually lets her get away with it, her behaviour will escalate to higher levels of criminality. I guarantee she’s done this before. Tell the school you’re filing a police report and contacting a lawyer to deal with both the girl AND the school. Their tune will change instantly, because they know they’re liable, and they’ll be in even more trouble for what they’re doing to you than what the thief’s parents are alleging. | 0 | 12,011 | 1.072464 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibphltq | ibplrip | 1,654,760,255 | 1,654,764,186 | 47 | 74 | File a police report, and personally I'm the kind of petty who, if the school continues to do nothing and she gets away with it scot free, would wait to see which colleges she was accepted to and then I would anonymously share this information with every single one of them. But that's me. | File a police report. You say you don’t want to cause trouble for a minor - you’re doing exactly what the school is doing. Coddling her. She doesn’t get to weaponise her race to enable her theft. That’s not how life works. She ruined her own prospects by stealing. If everyone in her life continually lets her get away with it, her behaviour will escalate to higher levels of criminality. I guarantee she’s done this before. Tell the school you’re filing a police report and contacting a lawyer to deal with both the girl AND the school. Their tune will change instantly, because they know they’re liable, and they’ll be in even more trouble for what they’re doing to you than what the thief’s parents are alleging. | 0 | 3,931 | 1.574468 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibplrip | ibpdoqp | 1,654,764,186 | 1,654,756,865 | 74 | 36 | File a police report. You say you don’t want to cause trouble for a minor - you’re doing exactly what the school is doing. Coddling her. She doesn’t get to weaponise her race to enable her theft. That’s not how life works. She ruined her own prospects by stealing. If everyone in her life continually lets her get away with it, her behaviour will escalate to higher levels of criminality. I guarantee she’s done this before. Tell the school you’re filing a police report and contacting a lawyer to deal with both the girl AND the school. Their tune will change instantly, because they know they’re liable, and they’ll be in even more trouble for what they’re doing to you than what the thief’s parents are alleging. | If the school isn't going to help, take this matter to the police. You're not accusing some random person of color here. You have solid evidence to back up your case, and this girl doesn't have a legal leg to stand on if faced with the facts in a court of law. | 1 | 7,321 | 2.055556 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibplrip | ibph9y1 | 1,654,764,186 | 1,654,759,958 | 74 | 34 | File a police report. You say you don’t want to cause trouble for a minor - you’re doing exactly what the school is doing. Coddling her. She doesn’t get to weaponise her race to enable her theft. That’s not how life works. She ruined her own prospects by stealing. If everyone in her life continually lets her get away with it, her behaviour will escalate to higher levels of criminality. I guarantee she’s done this before. Tell the school you’re filing a police report and contacting a lawyer to deal with both the girl AND the school. Their tune will change instantly, because they know they’re liable, and they’ll be in even more trouble for what they’re doing to you than what the thief’s parents are alleging. | If the school is not willing to pursue disciplinary action for what at this point almost certainly merits the legal definition of grand theft, they should agree to compensate your family for the financial loss. At this point, they are effectively acting as an accomplice to the crime, which would NOT go down well for the school district if you pursued this legally. | 1 | 4,228 | 2.176471 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibp6nss | ibplrip | 1,654,751,527 | 1,654,764,186 | 24 | 74 | It sounds like your daughter was the victim of theft. File a police report and include any evidence from the "Find my Device" feature to show location. Edit: Victim of theft twice. | File a police report. You say you don’t want to cause trouble for a minor - you’re doing exactly what the school is doing. Coddling her. She doesn’t get to weaponise her race to enable her theft. That’s not how life works. She ruined her own prospects by stealing. If everyone in her life continually lets her get away with it, her behaviour will escalate to higher levels of criminality. I guarantee she’s done this before. Tell the school you’re filing a police report and contacting a lawyer to deal with both the girl AND the school. Their tune will change instantly, because they know they’re liable, and they’ll be in even more trouble for what they’re doing to you than what the thief’s parents are alleging. | 0 | 12,659 | 3.083333 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibperfs | ibplrip | 1,654,757,755 | 1,654,764,186 | 20 | 74 | Either forget it or go to small claims you can't force school to do anything. You would win in court. | File a police report. You say you don’t want to cause trouble for a minor - you’re doing exactly what the school is doing. Coddling her. She doesn’t get to weaponise her race to enable her theft. That’s not how life works. She ruined her own prospects by stealing. If everyone in her life continually lets her get away with it, her behaviour will escalate to higher levels of criminality. I guarantee she’s done this before. Tell the school you’re filing a police report and contacting a lawyer to deal with both the girl AND the school. Their tune will change instantly, because they know they’re liable, and they’ll be in even more trouble for what they’re doing to you than what the thief’s parents are alleging. | 0 | 6,431 | 3.7 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibp6nss | ibp7kx0 | 1,654,751,527 | 1,654,752,175 | 24 | 69 | It sounds like your daughter was the victim of theft. File a police report and include any evidence from the "Find my Device" feature to show location. Edit: Victim of theft twice. | Go through the police, not the school. You should pursue charges, she’s just going to keep stealing from people. | 0 | 648 | 2.875 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibphltq | ibpdoqp | 1,654,760,255 | 1,654,756,865 | 47 | 36 | File a police report, and personally I'm the kind of petty who, if the school continues to do nothing and she gets away with it scot free, would wait to see which colleges she was accepted to and then I would anonymously share this information with every single one of them. But that's me. | If the school isn't going to help, take this matter to the police. You're not accusing some random person of color here. You have solid evidence to back up your case, and this girl doesn't have a legal leg to stand on if faced with the facts in a court of law. | 1 | 3,390 | 1.305556 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibph9y1 | ibphltq | 1,654,759,958 | 1,654,760,255 | 34 | 47 | If the school is not willing to pursue disciplinary action for what at this point almost certainly merits the legal definition of grand theft, they should agree to compensate your family for the financial loss. At this point, they are effectively acting as an accomplice to the crime, which would NOT go down well for the school district if you pursued this legally. | File a police report, and personally I'm the kind of petty who, if the school continues to do nothing and she gets away with it scot free, would wait to see which colleges she was accepted to and then I would anonymously share this information with every single one of them. But that's me. | 0 | 297 | 1.382353 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibp6nss | ibphltq | 1,654,751,527 | 1,654,760,255 | 24 | 47 | It sounds like your daughter was the victim of theft. File a police report and include any evidence from the "Find my Device" feature to show location. Edit: Victim of theft twice. | File a police report, and personally I'm the kind of petty who, if the school continues to do nothing and she gets away with it scot free, would wait to see which colleges she was accepted to and then I would anonymously share this information with every single one of them. But that's me. | 0 | 8,728 | 1.958333 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibphltq | ibperfs | 1,654,760,255 | 1,654,757,755 | 47 | 20 | File a police report, and personally I'm the kind of petty who, if the school continues to do nothing and she gets away with it scot free, would wait to see which colleges she was accepted to and then I would anonymously share this information with every single one of them. But that's me. | Either forget it or go to small claims you can't force school to do anything. You would win in court. | 1 | 2,500 | 2.35 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibqeqim | ibpdoqp | 1,654,783,757 | 1,654,756,865 | 38 | 36 | > However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. I don't see how this is your problem. Call the cops in the school's jurisdiction. Provide them with the evidence you have. | If the school isn't going to help, take this matter to the police. You're not accusing some random person of color here. You have solid evidence to back up your case, and this girl doesn't have a legal leg to stand on if faced with the facts in a court of law. | 1 | 26,892 | 1.055556 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibqeqim | ibph9y1 | 1,654,783,757 | 1,654,759,958 | 38 | 34 | > However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. I don't see how this is your problem. Call the cops in the school's jurisdiction. Provide them with the evidence you have. | If the school is not willing to pursue disciplinary action for what at this point almost certainly merits the legal definition of grand theft, they should agree to compensate your family for the financial loss. At this point, they are effectively acting as an accomplice to the crime, which would NOT go down well for the school district if you pursued this legally. | 1 | 23,799 | 1.117647 |
v8624l | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Girl at my daughter's school stole her expensive headphones twice. Family of the girl is threatening racial discrimination suit against the school if they investigate or enact discipline. Do they have any legal backing? My daughter (14) just finished her freshman year at a private boarding high school. Her birthday is in October and my husband and I bought her a new ($250) pair of AirPod pros as her present (in 2021). She was ecstatic and used them nearly every single day. Her school has a winter break near the holidays and shortly before the break, my daughter mistakenly left her headphones in their case in her dorm's common room for a few minutes while she went to use the bathroom, and when she came back, the headphones and the charging case were gone. Daughter was very upset but did not tell us because she felt that it was entirely her fault that she left them in the common room unattended. She went to the mall in December and bought a new pair, spending $250 of her own money without our knowledge and effectively draining her bank account. At this time, she also searched for her headphones on Find My Device and saw her old headphones located at the home address of a girl in her dorm. Said girl is a junior RA in the freshman dorm, meaning she is in a leadership position and an upperclassman, and has the ability to enforce discipline to freshmen students in the dorm. My daughter politely texted the girl and asked her if she could please bring her headphones back after the break. The girl claimed she did not have my daughter's headphones, but after my daughter sent her a screenshot of the headphones' location, the girl made up a story about how she lost her airpods and must have mistaken my daughter's for hers when she was looking for them. After the break, the girl did not return my daughter's headphones and claimed that she "forgot" them, despite my daughter sending her gentle reminders to remember to bring them back. Her school resumed in January after the break and she brought her new pair of AirPods to school with her. According to her she was extremely careful with them and never left them unattended, and kept them securely in her backpack. However, after about two weeks, these headphones went missing too. My daughter asked around the dorm if anyone had seen them but no one had. She also was able to track them on her computer and watched them "travel" about campus for several days. She also enabled "lost mode" on them and disabled them so that anyone attempting to use them would know that they were lost. Eventually, these headphones, too, ended up at the same address as the other pair. Daughter once again texted the girl who lived at this address, who continued to lie and say that she only had the old pair. My daughter sent her screenshots of Find My Device that clearly showed both sets at that address, but the girl continued to deny, deny, deny. For the remainder of the semester, my daughter would continue to text this girl, politely asking her to return the headphones, but the girl would either lie saying she did not have them, "promise" to give them back after a break/weekend when she would be home, or make up a story about why she "forgot" them. The girl also seems to have disabled tracking on these headphones as we are unable to see the location of them currently, so they are effectively stolen. Last month my daughter finally confessed the whole story to us, as she had lost $500 worth of property within the school year and was quite upset. We reached out to the school and emailed multiple screenshots of the headphones' location on Find My Device that she had saved on her phone, as well as screenshots of every text exchange with this girl that occurred over the past several months, to the school administration. We have been in contact with this girl's parents as well but we have gotten very minimal response. Initially, the administration was very responsive to us, claiming that they had not received reports like this about this student before, and assured us that this entire matter would be investigated. However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. The girl is of Mexican descent, while myself and my family are white, and I believe the school's administration is majority white as well. Apparently the optics of accusing a minor of Mexican ethnicity of stealing expensive electronics does not look good, despite the evidence, as I have presented in this post, overwhelmingly supporting my daughter. I firmly believe that this threat is being made due to the fact that this girl is a rising senior and thus will likely be applying to college, and having incidents of theft or disciplinary action on her permanent record will not look good. Although I am mostly concerned with this issue getting resolved for my daughter, I do wonder if this girl is abusing her position of leadership in the dorm and has stolen from other students or has otherwise wronged them. I am very concerned that if this student is not investigated this behavior will continue, making my daughter and other students feel unsafe in the dorm. The school refuses to continue to investigate due to the threat of legal action. Does this girl's family have any legal backing, and would the school be at risk of losing a racial discrimination suit for investigating this student's alleged theft? | ibpy17r | ibqeqim | 1,654,774,532 | 1,654,783,757 | 32 | 38 | OP by not doing anything you are empowering this girl to steak whatever she wants. Any one in a position of power that abuses said power deserves everything that comes to her.What happens when it happens again and this time your kid doesn't say it do anything OR the girl uses her power to punish your daughter for it? As her having a position of power and being "trusted" by the faculty she could lie and say your daughter is attacking her/ discriminating against her. without the reports of your trying to stop it they are likely to believe her.Do you really want that for your daughter? Also at 17 she's old enough to be charged as an adult. You are in a position to stop this before it escalates to her doing worse. Also using that excuse of discrimination shows that they'll do whatever it takes to sweep it under the rug. Be the person to stop this now. At least do it for your daughter and show her you have her back and will be willing to do what it takes to have her back | > However, this week we have received an email from the administration that this girl's family has threatened a racial discrimination suit if the investigation goes any further. I don't see how this is your problem. Call the cops in the school's jurisdiction. Provide them with the evidence you have. | 0 | 9,225 | 1.1875 |
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