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ูู ููู ูุนุทู ุงูููุงูุฉ ููุณูุง ููู
ุชุนูู
ูู. | is how we give that same agency to learners. |
ูุนู
. | yeah. |
ููุฐูู ุฅุฐุง ูุธุฑุช ูู ุงูุนุงูู
ุงูุชุฌุงุฑู ููุฅูุชุฑูุช. | and so if you look in the commercial world of the internet. |
ูุฏููุง ุจูุงูุงุช ูุจูุฑุฉ ุนู ุฃููุณูุง ุชุณุงุนุฏูุง ูู ุตูุน ุงุฎุชูุงุฑุงุช ุฃูุถู. | we have big data about ourselves that helps us make better choices. |
ูุจุฐูู ุจุทุฑููุฉ ุฅุนุทุงุก ุงูู
ุชุนูู
ูู ููุน ุงููุตูู ููุณู ุฅูู ุงูุจูุงูุงุช ุญูู ุฃููุณูู
ูุฃูุฑุงููู
. | and so in a way giving learners the same kind access to data about themselves and their peers. |
ููุญู ูุชุญุฏุซ ุนู ุฅุนุทุงุก ุงูู
ุชุนูู
ูู. | as we are talking about giving the teachers. |
ุดูุฑูุง ุฌุฒููุงู ููู
. | thank you very much. |
ุญุณููุง ุญุตูุช ุนูู ูุงุญุฏ ุขุฎุฑ. | okay I have got one more. |
ูุฐูู ุงูุณูุฏ ุงูู
ุญุชุฑู
ุงูุฐู ู
ุนู ุงูู
ููุฑูููู ููู ููุทุ ุดูุฑูุง ูู ุฑุงุฆุน. | so gentleman with the microphone at the moment just stand, thank you great. |
ู
ุฑูุฒ ุณูุฏูู ููุฅุจุฏุงุน ูุงูุชุนูู
. | Sydney Center for Innovation and Learning. |
ุจุนุถ ุงูุชุนูููุงุช ุชู
ุฅุจุฏุงุคูุง ู
ุณุจููุง ุฃุนุชูุฏ ุฃูู ููุฏุช ุฌุฒุกูุง ูุงู
ููุง ู
ู ุงูู
ุญุงุฏุซุฉ. | couple of the comments made beforehand I think you have missed one whole pack of the conversation. |
ูุฃููุง ูุชุญุฏุซ ุนู ุชุทุจูู ุงูุจูุงูุงุช ุณูุงุก ูุงูุช ูุจูุฑุฉ ุฃู ุตุบูุฑุฉ ุนูู ุงููุตูู ุงูุชุนููู
ูุฉ. | because we are talking about applying data whether it is big or little to the classroom. |
ูู ุฃู ุงููู
ุฉ ุจุฃูู
ููุง ุชุฏูุฑ ุญูู ุงูุญุงุฌุฉ ููุชูููุฑ ุงูุฌุฐุฑู ูู
ุง ูุญุฏุซ ูู ุงููุตู ุงูุฏุฑุงุณู. | is that the whole of this summit is about the need for radical thinking of what happen in the classroom. |
ุฃู ุชุฌุนู ุงูุงูุชุฑุงุถ ุฐูู. | you are making the assumption that. |
ุงูุจูุงูุงุช ุณูุตุจุญ ุจุงูุฅู
ูุงู ุณุญุจูุง ู
ู ุงูู
ุฏุฑุณ ุงููุฑุฏู. | the data is going to be able to be taken down to an individual teacher. |
ุจููู
ุง ูุญู ูุชุญุฏุซ ุนู ุชุบููุฑ ุงููุตู ุงูุฏุฑุงุณู. | while we are talking about changing the classroom. |
ุงูุญุฏูุซ ุนู ุงูู
ุนูู
ูู ุงูุชุนุงููููู ุงูุฐูู ูุนู
ููู ู
ุนูุง ุฏุงุฎู ูุฑูู ุงูู
ุนูู
ูู. | talking about collaborative teachers working together where within the team of teachers. |
ูุฏููู
ูุณููุฉ ุฃูุถู ุจูุซูุฑ ูู
ุนุงูุฌุฉ ุงูุจูุงูุงุช ูู ุงููุงูุน. | they have a far better way of actually handling the data. |
ูุจุนุฏ ุฐูู ุชุญููููุง ุซู
ุงูุชุฃุซูุฑ ูู ููููุฉ ุงููุตูู ุฅูู ูุฐุง ุงูู
ุฑุงูู. | and then analyzing it and then influencing how that teen might actually been approached . |
ูุฐูู ููุงู ุงูุชุฑุงุถ ููู
ูุฐุฌ ุงูุนุงูู
ุงููุฏูู
. | so there is an assumption of an old world model. |
ููู ุงูุชูููุฑ ุงูุฐู ููุง ูุชุญุฏุซ ุนูู ููุนูุง ู
ุง ููุงู. | and all of the thinking that has been sort of talked about there. |
ุฐูู ูุง ููุธุฑ ุฅูู ูุตู ุงูุฏุฑุงุณู ูู ุงููุงูุน ุจุญุงุฌุฉ ุฅูู ุงูุชุบููุฑ ุชู
ุงู
ูุง. | that does not look at the classroom actually needs to change completel. |
ู
ู ุฃุฌู ุชุตูุน ูุฐู ุงูุจูุงูุงุช ุงุฎุชูุงููุง. | in order for that data to make a difference. |
ุฃุดูุฑู ุณุชููู. | thank you Steven. |
ุญุณููุงุ ูู ูู
ูููู ุงูุญุตูู ุนูู ู
ููุฑูููู ุจุงูุฃุณูู ุฃู
ุงู
ูุง. | okay, can I get the microphone down toward the front her. |
ููุฌุฏ ูุงุญุฏ ููุง ุจุงูุฃู
ุงู
ู
ุจุงุดุฑุฉ. | so there is one here right at the front. |
ูููุฌุฏ ูุงุญุฏ ุขุฎุฑ ุฃู
ุงู
ู ู
ุจุงุดุฑุฉ ูู ุงููุณุท. | and there is another one just right to me in the middle. |
ูุนู
. ุดูุฑูุง ุฌุฒููุงู ููู
. | yeah. thank you very much. |
ุฅุฐูุงุ ูู ูุญุธุฉ ููุท ุญุชู ูุณุชุทูุน ุฃู ูุฃุชู ูู ุจู
ููุฑูููู. | so, just stand for moment so we can get a microphone to you. |
ุดูุฑูุง ููู
ูุนู
ุณุขุชู ููุง ุฃููุงู. ุฑูู
1 ูุนู
. | thank you yeah and I am going to come here first. number 1. okay. |
ุณุฑูุฑ. | pleasure. |
ุฃูุฏ ุจุงููุนู ุฃู ุฃุดุงูุฏ ุงูุจุฑูุงู
ุฌ ุงูุฏููู ูุชูููู
ุงูุทูุงุจ ุฃู ู
ุฌู
ูุนุฉ ุงูุจูุงูุงุช ุงูู
ุณุชุฎุฑุฌุฉ. | I would actually like to see the PISA or collection of data scraped. |
ูุฃูู ูุงู ููุง ุชุฃุซูุฑ ุณูุจู ุจุดูู ูุจูุฑ ูุชุฃุซูุฑ ุชุถููู ุชูุฌููู ูู ุจูุฏู ุงูู
ู
ููุฉ ุงูู
ุชุญุฏุฉ. | because it has had a massively negative and prescriptive narrowing effect in my own country the UK. |
ูููู ุฃูุงูู ุชู
ุงู
ูุง ุนูู ู
ูุงุญุธุฉ ุฌูู ุฃู ุงูููุฉ ุงูุญููููุฉ ูู ุฃุฎุฐ ุงูุจูุงูุงุช. | but I wholly agree with John's observation that the real power is taking data. |
ูุฅุจุฑุงุฒูุง ูุฏู ุงูู
ุชุนูู
ูููุทุฉ ุถู
ู ุงูุชุนูููุงุช ุงูุชูููููุฉ. | and pinpointing it at the learner as a point of formative feedback. |
ุฐูู ุญูุซ ุณูุญุตู ุนูู ุงูู
ู
ูุฒุงุช ุงููุจุฑู. | that is where we will get the big advantages. |
ูุฃู ูุฐุง ููุณ ุจุดุฃู ุงูู
ูุนูู
ูู ุงูุฐู ูุง ูููู
ูู ุจุชุนูููุงุช ุชูููููุฉ. | because this is not about teachers who cannot do formative feedback. |
ุงูู
ุญุงุถุฑูู ูู ุงูุฌุงู
ุนุงุช ุงูุฐูู ูุนุทูู 0 ุชุนูููุงุช ุฃุซูุงุก ุงูู
ุญุงุถุฑุงุช ุตูุฑ. | lecturers in universities who gave 0 feedback during lectures zero. |
ุฅูู ุญูู ู
ุณุงุนุฏุฉ ุงูู
ุชุนูู
ูู ูู ุชูุนูู ุงูุฐุงุช ููููููุง ูุงุนููู ุจู
ุง ูุนุฑูููู ููุง ูุนุฑูููู. | it is about helping learners self-actualize by being aware of what they know and do not know. |
ูุฃู ูููู ูุฏููุง ูุฐุง ููุชุนูู
. | and having this for learning. |
ูุฐูู ูุฌุจ ุชูุตููู ุฅููุชุฑููููุง. | and that has to be delivered electronically. |
ุฐูู ุญูุซ ูุชุฏุฎู ุฌู
ุน ุงูุจูุงูุงุช. | that is where the data collection comes in. |
ุงูู
ุนูู
ูู ูุง ูุฌู
ุนูู ุงูุจูุงูุงุชุ ุงูุชุนูู
ุงูุฅููุชุฑููู ููุนู. | teachers do not collect data, online learning does. |
ูุฐุง ูู ุงูู
ุณุชูุจู. | that is the future. |
ูุฐูู ุญูุซ ูุฌุจ ุฃู ูุนูุฏ ุงุฎุชุฑุงุน ุงูุชุนูู
. | and that is where we should be reinventing learning. |
ุดูุฑูุง ูู ูู
ููุฑูููู ููุง ูู ุงููุณุท ู
ุจุงุดุฑุฉ. | thank you and a microphone right here in the center. |
ุฅุฐุง ูุงู ูู
ูููู
ุงูุญุตูู ุนูู ุฐูู ุจุณุฑุนุฉ ูุจูุฑุฉ. | if you can get that very fast. |
ูุฅุฐุง ูุงุชูู ุดุฎุต ู
ุง ุฃุฑูุฏ ุฃู ุฃุญุตู ุนูู ูุงุญุฏ ุขุฎุฑ ููุช ุฃูุธุฑ ู
ู ูุจู. | and if I missed somebody I want to get one more if I can that I was looking before. |
ูุนู
ุนุธูู
ุ ุญุณููุง ุดูุฑูุง ูู ุฌูุฏ. | oh great okay thank you good. |
ุงุณู
ู. | my name is . |
ูู ูุนู
ู | it is on |
ุฃูุง ุดุงุฑุงู ู
ู ุจุฑุงุซุงู
ูู ุงูููุฏ. | I am Sharan from Pratham in India. |
ุจููู
ุง ููุช ุฃุณุชู
ุน ุฅูููุ ููุฑุช ุฃู ุงูุนุงูู
ุงููุงู
ู ูู
ููู ูู ูุฐุง ุงูููุงุด ุนูู ุงูุฅุทูุงู. | as I listen to you, I thought the developing world was not in this debate at all. |
ููุณุช ููุงู ุซูุงูุฉ ุงูููุงุณุ ููุณ ููุงู ููู
ููุจูุงูุงุช. | there is no culture of measurement, there is no understanding of data. |
ุณุฃุนุทููู
ู
ุซุงูุงู. | I give you an example. |
ููุงูุชูู ู
ู ุงูููุฏ ุดุงุฑููุง ูู ุงูุจุฑูุงู
ุฌ ุงูุฏููู ูุชูููู
ุงูุทูุงุจ ูู 2009 ุจุงูุฅุถุงูุฉ. | two states of India participated in PISA in 2009 plus. |
ุฅูู ุฃููู
ุขุชูุง ู72 ู73 ู
ู 74 ู
ุดุงุฑู. | they came 72nd and 73rd out of 74 participants. |
ูุนูู [ุนูู
:ุขุฎุฑ ุงูุจุฑูุงู
ุฌ ุงูุฏููู ูุชูููู
ุงูุทูุงุจ ุฃู ุงูุนููุงุช ูู
ุชูู ุชุฑูู ุฅูู ู
ุนุงููุฑ ุงูุจุฑูุงู
ุฌ ุงูุฏููู ูุชูููู
ุงูุทูุงุจ. | and PISA commented that the sampling was not up to the [NE:MISC PISA standards. |
ูุฐุงุ ุญุชู ุฅุฐุง ุญุงููุช ุงูุญุตูู ุนูู ุจูุงูุงุชุ ุฃุนูู
ุงูุจูุงูุงุช ุงูุฌุฒุฆูุฉุ ุงูุนุฑุถ ุงูุบุฑูุจ. | so even if you try to get data, I know micro data, the strange showing. |
ุงูุฐู ุณู
ุนูุงู ู
ู ูุงูุฒ ุฑูุฒูููุฌ ุฃู
ุณ. | we heard from Hans Rosling yesterday. |
ููู ูู ูุฐุง ุงูุฌุฏู ูู ุงูุนุงูู
ุงููุงู
ู ููู ููุนุจ. | but all this debate in the developing world how does it play. |
ูุง ุฃุนุชูุฏ ุฃู ููุงู ุจูุงูุงุช. | I do not think there is data. |
ููุทุฉ ูุงุญุฏุฉุ ูุธู ูููู ุฃู ุงูุจูุงูุงุช ุดูุก ูุงุญุฏ ูู ุนูู ุงูุฃูู ุฃุฌุฒุงุฆูุง ู
ู ุงูุนุงูู
ุงูุชู ุชุนุฑู ุงูุฌุงุฐุจูุฉ. | one point, we keep say is data is one thing in at least our parts of the world that defines gravity. |
ูุชู
ุฌู
ุนูุง ูู ุงูุฃุณูู. ุฅูู ูุณุชู
ุฑ ูู ุงูุตุนูุฏุ ูุง ููุฎูุถ ุฃุจุฏูุง. | it is gathered at the bottom. it keeps going up, never comes down. |
ุชุญููู ุงูุจูุงูุงุช ูุงูุฅุญุตุงุฆูุงุช ูู ูู ุดูุก ููุฎุจุฑุงุก ููุงุถุนู ุงูุณูุงุณุงุช ุงูุฐู ูุชุฌุงููููู. | data analysis and statistics is everything for experts and policymakers who ignore it. |
ููู ุชุฌุนู ุงูุจูุงูุงุช ุฃุฏุงุฉ ูุชู
ููู ุงูุฃุดุฎุงุต. | how do you make data an empowering tool for people. |
ูุชุนููู ุขุฎุฑ ููุท ูู ุฅูู
ููู ุฃูุชูุ ูุญู ูุฌู
ุน ุงูุจูุงูุงุช ุณููููุง ุญูู ุงูุชุณุฌูู. | and just a last comment for Emilio you, we gather data annually about enrollment. |
ูุฐุง ุงูุงุณุชุจูุงู 9 ุญูู ุงูุญุงูุฉ ุงูุณูููุฉ ูุชูุฑูุฑ ุงูุชุนููู
ู ุงูููุฏ ูู ูุฐุง ุงูู
ุฌุงู ุงูุขู. | this 9th survey of annual status of education report for India is in the field right now. |
ููุญู ููุดุฑ ุงูุจูุงูุงุช ูู ุฒู
ู ุดูุฑูู. | and we publish data in 2 months time. |
ุฅูู ููุณ ู
ุณุชุญููุงู ุฅุนุทุงุก ุชูุฏู
ูุฏู ุชูู
ูุฉ ุงูุฃูููุฉ ุฎูุงู 3 ุดููุฑ. | it is not impossible to give the millennium development goal progress within 3 months. |
ูุนูู ุฃู ุญุงูุ ูุฐุง ูุชู
ุชูููุฐู ูู ุจุงูุณุชุงู. | and anyway, this is being done in Pakistan. |
ูุชู
ุชูููุฐู ูู ููููุงุ ุชูุฒุงููุงุ ุฃูุบูุฏุง ุฃูุถูุง. | it is being done in Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda as well. |
ูุฐุง ุฃุนุชูุฏ ุฃู ุงูุชุญููู ุงูู
ูุนูุฏ ูู ุดูุก ูุงุญุฏ. | so I think sophisticated analysis is one thing. |
ูููู ุงูู
ุณุชูู ุงูุฐู ุนููู ุงูุนุงูู
ุงููุงู
ู ูู
ุง ูุณู
ูู ูุงูุฒ ุงูุนุงูู
ูู 4:09. | but the level at which the developing world as Hans calls it The world is 4:09. |
ูุญุชุงุฌ ุฅูู ุงููุธุฑ ุฅูู ููุน ุงูุจูุงูุงุช ุงูุชู ูู
ูู ุฌู
ุนูุงุ ุชุญููููุง ูุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู
ูุง ูุฃู ุบุฑุถ. | need to look at what is the kind of data that can be collected, analyzed and used for what purpose. |
ุฃูุง ูุง ุฃุนุชุฑุถ ุนูู ู
ุง ูุงูู ุฃุญุฏ ู
ููู
. ุนุฑุถ ู
ู
ุชุงุฒ. | I do not disagree with any of you. excellent presentation. |
ู
ูููู
ุ ุดูุฑูุง ููุ ุญุณููุงุ ูุงุญุฏ ุขุฎุฑ. | understood, thank you, okay, one more. |
ูู ููุท ูู ุงูุตู 3 ุฃู
ุงู
ู ู
ุจุงุดุฑุฉ ููุง. | it is just in the 3rd row right in front of me here. |
ุฅุฐุง ุฃู
ููู ุงูุญุตูู ุนูู ู
ููุฑูููู ุซู
ุณุฃุนูุฏ ุฅูู ุงูุฌูุณุฉ. ุดูุฑูุง ููู
. | if you can get a microphone then I am going to come back to the panel. thank you. |
ุฃูุง ูุถูู ุนุจุฏ. | I am Fazli Abed. |
ุฃูุง ุฑุฆูุณ ุจุฑุงู ูู ุจูุบูุงุฏูุด. | I am the chairman of BRAC in Bangladesh. |
ูุฃุชุฐูุฑ ูู ุนุงู
1991 ูุจุนุฏ ู
ุคุชู
ุฑ ุฌูู
ุชูู ูุชูููุฑ ุญู ุงูุชุนููู
ููุฌู
ูุน. | and I remember in 1991 after the Jomtien Conference on Education for All. |
ูุงู ููุงู ู
ุคุชู
ุฑ ูู ู
ูุฑุงุช ุงูููููุณูู ูู ุจุงุฑูุณ. | there was a conference in UNESCO's headquarters in Paris. |
ููู ุฐูู ุงูููุชุ ููุง ูุนุจุซ ุจููุฑุฉ ููููุฉ ููุงุณ ุงูุชูุฏู
ูู ุงูุชุนููู
. | and at that time, we were toying with the idea as to how to measure progress in education. |
ูุฐุง ุนุฑููุง ููู ูููุณ ุงูุชูุฏู
ูู ุงูุชุญุตูู. | so we knew how to measure progress in immunization. |
ูุฐูู ู
ูุธู
ุฉ ุงูุตุญุฉ ุงูุนุงูู
ูุฉ ุงุนุชุงุฏุช ุฃู ุชููู
ุจุงุณุชุจูุงูุงุช ุงูุซูุงุซูู ุนูููุฏ. | so the WHO used to do thirty cluster surveys . |
ูุงูุชุดุงู ู
ุง ูู ู
ุณุชูู ุชุญุตูู ุงูุฏููุฉ. | and find out what is the level of the immunization in that country. |
ููุญู ูู
ูููุง ุฃูุถูุง ููุงุณู ุจูุฌุงุฉ ุงูุทูู. | and we could also equate it with child survival. |
ูุนู
. | yes. |
ุฃู ู
ุณุชููุงุช ูููุงุช ุงูุฃุทูุงู. | or child mortality levels. |
ูุฐูู ูุฑุฑูุง ุฃู ุงูุจูุงูุงุช ุงูุถุฎู
ุฉ ุถุฑูุฑู ุฃู ูุฌุฑุจูุง ููููู
ูุง. | so we decided that big data is necessary to try and understand. |
ู
ุง ูู ููุน ู
ุณุชููุงุช ุงูุชุณุฌูู ุงูุชู ุชุญุฏุซ ูู ุงูู
ุณุชูู. | what kind of levels of enrollment is happening in the country. |
ูู ุจูุบูุงุฏูุด ู
ุง ุจุฏุฃุช ุจู ููุ ุจุฏุฃูุง ุจุนู
ู ุงุณุชุทูุงุน. | so in Bangladesh what I started is, we started a survey, . |
ุชูุฑูุฑ ุจุญุซ ุญูู ุญุงูุฉ ุงูุชุนููู
ูู ุจูุบูุงุฏูุด. | a research report on state of Bangladesh's education. |
ูุฐุง ูู ุณูุฉ ูุฎูุต ุฅูู ุญุงูุฉ ุงูุชุนููู
ูู ุจูุฌูุงุฏูุด. | so every year we come out with the state of Bangladesh's education. |
ุญูุซ ูู
ูููุง ุฃู ูุฑู. ูุฐูู ูุฐุง ุงูุนุงู
ูุงู ุงูุชุณุฌูู 91ูช. | in which we can see. so this year it was 91% enrollment. |
ุงูุนุงู
ุงููุงุฏู
ุณูุฑุชูุน ุญุชู 93 ุฃู 94ูช. | next year is it going up to 93 or 94%. |
ูุฐุง ุนูู ุงูุฃูู ุชู
ุฏูุน ุงูุญููู
ุฉ ูุชุญุณูู ุงูุฃุดูุงุก. | so at least that the government is pushed to improve things. |
ุฃู ุนูู ุงูุฃูู ุชูููุฑ ูุฑุต ุชุนููู
ูุฃุทูุงู ุฃูุซุฑ. | or at least provide educational opportunities for more children. |
ูุฐุงุ ูู ุงูุจูุงูุงุช ุงูุถุฎู
ุฉ ุชู
ูุญูุง ุจุนุถ ุงูุฃููุงุฑ. | so, it is big data gives us some idea. |
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